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gnomefreakbrb i hope12:00
Cartesian1984LjL;i haven't tried yet, haven't turned it off12:00
Cartesian1984I am on it now, in fact12:00
lorenzoworked fine with php/apache under windows, but that's the only thing I cannot get to work now in linux, although I am very pleased with all the rest12:00
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sethklorenzo, what happens?12:01
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GregAscheanyone care to give their insight? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9372912:01
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lorenzowell nothing happens. The php page tells me the feedback was sent correctly, but the receiver (me) never recieves the expected email12:02
Cartesian1984LjL: any idea what that folder is for? i think it might be maintenance, but i dont want to take the chance of shutting it off12:02
sethklorenzo, you'll have to trace it through the apache logs, see what happens12:03
LjLCartesian1984: that folder is for startup. hold on, i'm hoping to give you a solution12:03
Cartesian1984thanks12:03
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ElsanIs it normal that the GNOME theme manager does not work with the new kernel version?12:05
foxinesscan i find anjuta 2.0 on ubuntu "i want to give it a try"12:05
delltonyquestion is there a gui program to do scp transfers?12:05
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Agrajagdelltony: gftp might support it12:06
Judelltony:  gftp can12:06
delltonyalright will have a look thanks12:06
delltonythanks12:06
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lorenzotook a quick look at the apache logs, I see all my requests for pages, etc... no mentions of the mail or sendmail words anywhere ...  :(12:06
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PinToi have a q's12:06
PinToi have an old system with 3d voodoofx12:07
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LjLCartesian1984: please paste the results of "ls /etc/init.d" on the pastebin12:07
sethklorenzo, add something to the php page to log to a file, make sure it actually gets executed12:07
PinTodoes n e 1 know where i can get driver from12:07
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PinTocan i use files ending in RPM in ubuntu?12:07
sethkPinTo, an old lady in Port O Prince12:07
jab630join #brownlug12:07
lorenzoohoo, see what we have here :12:08
lorenzosh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory12:08
PinTosethk i wish i knew12:08
ElsanPinTo: You can use alien to make a .deb from it12:08
lorenzobut the sendmail IS there ...12:08
foxinessPinTo, alin somthing.rpm12:08
sethklorenzo, must not be in /usr/sbin12:08
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sethklorenzo, although it should be12:08
Cartesian1984LjL: it says that there is no such file or directory12:08
PinToElsan i'am a noob12:09
LjLCartesian1984: ehm, then you've removed much more than just /etc/rc1.d12:09
AgrajagPinTo: what is the rpm file you want to use?12:09
LjLCartesian1984: paste me an "ls /etc"12:09
foxinessPinTo, but alien its not soo good or safe12:09
ursulajoin [#ubuntu] 12:09
orbxis it possible to copy whole directories via the terminal?12:09
Agrajagorbx: cp -R12:09
ursulahi all12:09
LjLorbx: cp -a12:09
PinToXFree86 V3.3.3, 3dfx XF86Setup rpm12:09
orbxor move?12:09
foxinessPinTo, use .deb12:09
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Agrajagoh yeah, -a's better12:10
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topyliPinTo: alien is the last resort. try to get the driver otherwise before. are you sure it's not in modern X?12:10
ElsanPinTo: Just download the "alien" package with synaptic or "sudo apt-get install alien". Then in the command line: "alien yourrpm.rpm". IT may not ALWAYS work. It worked for Limewire for me and not at all for others.12:10
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orbxLjl > what does the command do, and in what context do i use it in?12:10
AgrajagPinTo: xfree86? that's ancient12:10
ElsanPinTo: So, try to find a .deb.12:10
ElsanWhat are the improvements of the new kernel?12:10
topyliPinTo: Xfree 3.3 is like from 1995 or something :)12:10
delltonyreal quick the command to copy a file from a remote location to local location is scp -p Enterporthere username@host/pathtofile  .  correct?12:10
lorenzowell, it is there, believe me .............."puzzled"12:10
sethklorenzo, check its permissions12:10
LjLorbx: when you want to copy recursively and maintain permissions (and not follow symlinks, i think). it's all in "man cp"12:10
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PinToagrajag i didnt know12:11
sethklorenzo, also check the permissions on its directory, make sure the directory is searchable for the user that runs the php script12:11
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Cartesian1984LJL: do you mean pastebin.com? because i think the server is down12:11
orbxLjl > is there anyway of moving dir's like sudo mv?12:11
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LjLCartesian1984: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:11
trappistorbx: mv moves directories too12:11
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ElsanPinTo: You understand?12:12
orbxtrappist > yay, thank you12:12
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LjLorbx: you can just use "mv" to move directories, at least if it's all inside the same filesystem12:12
LjLorbx: otherwise, just cp and then remove the original12:12
PinToElsan i'll have a read thnx for the info12:12
trappistdoesn't have to be the same filesystem12:12
topyliPinTo: open a terminal, and say "lspci | grep VGA"12:12
SoulPropagationhow do ya make panel items (e.g. menu, clock, etc) transparent like empty areas of the panel?12:12
orbxLjl > thanks alot for your helo ;)12:13
orbxhelp*12:13
topyliPinTo: let's see what kinf of card you have12:13
LjLtrappist: i don't really know, i just know i wouldn't use "mv" to move across filesystems, personally :) you never know12:13
ElsanPinTo: It's really simple. I'm still a little newbie, just happened to find "alien" in synaptic by luck and used it for my .rpm.12:13
PinToi havent got an internet connection yet.....so i'll do that and get bak toya thnx12:13
PinToreboot12:13
Cartesian1984http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/487312:14
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sethkLjL, mv works across file systems.  It will complete copying before removing the original file12:15
LjLCartesian1984: so it's actually /etc/init.d that you deleted, not /etc/rc1.d ..?12:15
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iamkirkyo12:15
LjLsethk: ok12:15
sethkLjL, on the other hand, I _never_ have only one copy of _anything_   :)12:15
Cartesian1984yes, rc2.d also, possibly12:16
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iamkirkWho wants to help me wtfpwn linux ? :P12:16
LjLsethk: that's fine practice of course, though disk space isn't as cheap as they say12:16
iamkirki have 40gb of HD to get at :P12:16
sethkLjL, it's cheaper than recreating files.  :)12:17
LjLCartesian1984: "ls" all the /etc/rcX.d and paste them12:17
trappistLjL: here's the intro to the relevant section of mv.c: /* Move SOURCE onto DEST.  Handles cross-filesystem moves.12:17
iamkirkno one wants to help me ? :P12:17
Cartesian1984LjL: is it possible for me to move vital portions of those folders from the installation cd?12:17
LjLoh geez12:17
trappistLjL: followed closely by something like if (fail) dir_to_remove = NULL;12:18
LjLtrappist: you actually went and found the relevant part of the source? man, i would have believed you without that12:18
lorenzothank you sethk, I'll also look in that direction12:18
trappistLjL: well I wanted to know for sure :)12:18
LjLtrappist: ;-)12:19
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Remmelasany mencoder experts in the room?12:20
LjLCartesian1984: yes and no12:20
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WebLOCHHey guys got a brief question12:21
LjLCartesian1984: if you have installed services since you installed ubuntu, restoring the files from CD won't give you back everything. and in any case, i personally don't know where to find the files on the CD12:21
WebLOCHWill i need to reboot ubuntu after connecting a printer?  I realise theres no definate answer, but a good guess will fill me with the motivation to go and get the printer...12:21
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LjLCartesian1984: but, give me that listing... i think i can restore /etc/init.d, though as for /etc/rc2.d, that could be a bit harder12:21
die_hardermy cron job on my server is ignored. i inserted it with crontab -e12:22
die_harder */2 * * * * /home/luther/gate/open12:22
die_harderwhen i run the command manual it works12:22
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iamkirkI have a 75 gb HD.... I made a 10gb partition for winblows.... made a 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and I made an extended partition of 45 gb ( all done within winblows ).... how can i access that partition from ubunti12:24
PinToi think i was talkin elsan i dunno?12:24
PinTomy card is12:24
Cartesian1984LjL; what if i just used synaptic to mass-reinstall everything? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/487412:24
LjLCartesian1984: that's not dissimilar from what i was thinking about -- however, i was only thinking of reinstalling stuff that *has* files in /etc/init.d12:25
PinToVGA compatible controller:3dfx interactive,incvoodoo 3 (rev 01)12:25
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Teatime_hey everyone....how do I get my powerbook to boot the ubuntu CD?12:25
purplefeltangelubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tries to find my scanner....what do i do??12:25
Cartesian1984LjL: and idea how i would determine that?12:26
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LjLCartesian1984: in any case 1) i'm not sure how Synaptic would behave with a reinstall of core packages  2) reinstalling won't restore /etc/rc2.d, though it will restore /etc/init.d12:26
PinToman i needed a re-boot12:26
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rafahi12:26
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LjLCartesian1984: yeah, the idea i had in mind was simply to look in /etc/rcX.d -- everything that's in /etc/rcX.d corresponds to something in /etc/init.d12:26
kemik!cups12:27
ubotuNo idea, kemik12:27
GregAscheis there a line I can use in my smb.conf so that any user can access anything I share with samba?12:27
kemik!printer12:27
ubotuI guess printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org12:27
PinTocan n e help plz with my voodoo12:27
brocantorsuper linux j adore12:27
rafaanybody knows any reference of how to allow remote connection of clients to the Xserver?12:27
PinTomy desktop is like totaly huge because i cant change the RES12:27
Cartesian1984LjL: is there any way to reinstall ubuntu without losing everything on this partition?12:27
LjLCartesian1984: yes, of course, you can save your /home (and more if you want)12:28
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purplefeltangelubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tries to find my scanner....what do i do??12:28
LjLCartesian1984: Ubuntu can be told to not format the partition12:28
RemmelasAnyone know of a labeling program that has a template for dvd case labels?  Tried glabel, but looks like it only has templates for the disc's themselves.12:28
Teatime_anyone know how to mac my powerbook boot from the ubuntu cd?12:28
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Cartesian1984LjL: how can i instruct it to do that? is it possible to save all the installed thing?12:28
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LjLCartesian1984: no, not the installed programs, only your /home and, if you want, any selection of files and directory12:29
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Cartesian1984LjL: hmm. it would be easier to try and copy the files then12:29
LjLCartesian1984: you instruct it simply by telling it to not use "automatic partitioning" (or whatever it's called) during setup, and then tell it to not format your partition12:29
iamkirkI have a 75 gb HD.... I made a 10gb partition for winblows.... made a 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and I made an extended partition of 45 gb ( all done within winblows ).... how can i access that partition from ubunti12:29
rafaTeatime_, just press C as you bootup12:29
henry_hello...is there any graphical app that allows me set up the deepth color in buntu, to 24 bits???12:30
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Teatime_rafa: cheers :D12:31
purplefeltangelubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tires to find my scanner...HardwareSupportComponentsScanners says that my scanner should work perfectly...what should i do?12:31
n1omihi all :) how can i boot into terminal mode, and how can i run two terminals at once when not in a GUI?12:31
smon1omi, for the later part, try hitting ctrl+alt+left/right cursors when you're on a terminal.  there should be 6 running already by default12:31
trappist(or use screen)12:32
n1omismo: ctrl+alt+left produces: 7C12:32
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kemikuhm, how do i install cups on ubuntu? (running serverinstall) ... i just guessed it would be "apt-get install cupsys"12:33
topylin1omi: for starters, press ctrl-alt-Ff2. then the F1-F7 will take you through 6 virtual consoles and the X session? the graphical one will be at F712:33
LjLCartesian1984: join #kubuntu-offtopic please, if you want me to tell you what exactly i'm trying to do now12:33
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PinTon e 1 got a link for alien.rpm12:34
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n1omitopyli: woa!! thanks! :D12:35
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PinTocant find the download12:35
lightbrightif I want to change a whole folders contens permissions to full write, what would I write?  chmod 777 * ?12:35
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topylin1omi: ancient unix magic :-)12:35
lightbrighttopyli: any ideas?12:36
navaronetopyli> I hope no penguins were scarificed...<s.12:36
purplefeltangelcan someone please help me get ubuntu to detect my scanner????12:36
topylinavarone: not in the 70s, no :)12:36
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lightbrighttopyli:  i guess you must be new too12:37
smolightbright, that should work?12:37
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: is you scanner turned on as you boot ubuntu?12:37
lightbrightsmo: it should?12:37
kgsnowlightbright, why not just use chmod -R u+w12:37
smoaltho I'm not sure you'd want everything set executable12:37
topylilightbright: use something like chmod -R w12:37
purplefeltangellightbright: yes12:37
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topylilightbright: kgsnow is more right :)12:38
navaronePinto you need to search synaptic for alien and install...you cannot install an rpm in ubuntu without alien itslef...chicken before the egg kinda thing12:38
lightbrightkgsnow: whats u+w mean?12:38
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lightbrightkgsnow: will chmod -R u+w change ALL files in that folder?12:38
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purplefeltangellightbright: it is an Afga Snapscan which is supposed to work out of the box, but it says "invalid argument"12:38
bluefoxicySeveas:  CC meeting still going?12:38
smolightbright, -R is recursive, so yes, and them some12:38
Seveasbluefoxicy, finished 10 seconds ago :)12:38
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bluefoxicySeveas:  I gotta go to work soon but12:39
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SoulPropagation!composite12:39
ubotufrom memory, composite is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.12:39
topylilightbright: u=user, g=group, o=other (everybody). the + means add. your can use - to reduce rights. then you specify r, w., or x (read, write, execute)12:39
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Seveasbluefoxicy, sorry, but I'm leaving now, 00:36 here and my fiancee is ill12:39
AveTenebraehi all12:39
bluefoxicySeveas:  do you know if Canonical is open for partnerships with start-ups in north america?  A business advisor of mine recommended getting a partnership where I advertise a commercial Linux distribution and they pay me some money to help pay my shop's rent12:39
bluefoxicySeveas:  ah ok12:39
Seveasif it's important: mail it to dennis@ubuntu.com12:39
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lightbrighttopyli:  chmod 777 * worked too12:40
AveTenebraecan anyone help me12:40
SoulPropagationAveTenebrae: problem?12:40
AveTenebraeyes12:40
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: ok sorry no idea12:40
SoulPropagationwhat is it12:40
bluefoxicySeveas:  just looking for inside advice, off the record :)12:40
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AveTenebraeupgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 on ppc12:40
purplefeltangellightbright: thx anyway12:40
topylilightbright: yes, it's the same thing but i find it harder to remember the octal numerical bull :)12:40
lightbrighttopyli: ok thanks12:40
lightbrighttopyli:  ;)12:40
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n1omilook, ma, no GUI12:41
lightbrightanyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer with Ubuntu?12:41
AveTenebraeSoulPropagation:  can u help me ?12:41
vbgunzhello all... I just upgraded the kernel to 2.6.12-10-686... So now, I have to recompile vmware to work with it... vmware is choking on the "location of the directory of C header files that match the running kernel"... By default it is /usr/src/linux/include" but that directory does not exist... When I inspected it, only 2.6.12-9-686* dirs exist... any ideas?12:41
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smolightbright, I use ip3000 with commercial drivers.  not sure how much it helps you, but I couldn't get it printing much more than plaintext without12:41
purplefeltangelcan someone help me get ubuntu to detect my scanner?12:42
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myk3hey12:42
ktogiaspurplefeltangel, sane, xsane12:42
myk3can some one help me?12:42
topylipurplefeltangel: what kind of scanner is it?12:42
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myk3im trying to update kopete and i get a error message12:42
purplefeltangelktogias: xsane12:42
purplefeltangeltopyli: afga snapscan12:42
myk3checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!12:42
myk3thats the error12:42
smolightbright, you've taken a look at linuxprinting.org ?12:42
n1omi okay, i have a question about terminal mode.. sometimes (like now, on irsii) i can't see what i'm typing.. why is this?12:43
topylipurplefeltangel: is it usb or parallel port?12:43
purplefeltangeltopyli: i think it's USB12:43
Remmelasmyk3 if you are compiling it, you need to have the X dev files installed i think12:43
SoulPropagation!breezy12:44
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:44
topylipurplefeltangel: parallel port is the large port where you put your printer (at least in the old days). you would know :)12:44
purplefeltangeltopyli, yeah, it's USB12:44
SoulPropagationAveTenebrae: read what ubotu said12:44
AveTenebraeit's what i have done12:44
AveTenebraei've read the wiki12:44
occyubotu, LostPassword is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword12:44
ubotuoccy: okay12:44
AveTenebraeand now my Gnome display manager fail to load12:44
lightbrightsmo: yeah its not listed there which is strange for its 1 year old printer12:44
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lightbrightsmo:  is alien safe to use as I was told to alien a rpm for my printer12:45
occySeveas, I hope that's not a kickable offense.  If so... feel free to beat me up.12:45
smolightbright, I'm biased, but I hate it with a passion12:45
topylipurplefeltangel: look here: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl12:45
occySeveas, :P12:45
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lightbrightsmo:  why?12:46
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purplefeltangeltopyli it doesn't have a driver for my scanner...12:46
lightbrightoccy: what?12:46
purplefeltangeltopyli it says on the wiki page that my scanner is supported out of the box12:47
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occylightbright, I added something to the bot.  heh12:47
vbgunzanyone know the directory that contains my "C header files that match my running kernel? /usr/src/linux/include does not exist... help?12:47
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: is your scanner turned on :)12:47
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smolightbright, I've made a mess of my system in the past by installing debian packages instead of ubuntu ones.  I don't see the sense in going three steps left and adding packages designed for redhat12:47
purplefeltangellightbright, yes :P12:47
lightbrightoccy: about passwords?12:47
occylightbright, yah12:47
occyI did a search and didn't see it in the keys12:47
occyso I added it12:48
WebLOCHhey guys, i have a HP Deskjet 950C  which appears to be connected, but whenever I print nothing at all seems to happen, anyone fancy doing diagnostics?12:48
occyhope that's ok.12:48
topylipurplefeltangel: do you have other usb devices? do they work?12:48
purplefeltangeltopyli nope i haven't tried any other USB devices under ubuntu yet...12:48
vbgunzI think I have it....12:48
vbgunzthanks12:48
myk3k12:48
myk3there is a lot of them12:48
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guest__I have Ubunutu 5.04 for powerpc. Where I can find codecs for playing .vob flies on my Ubuntu12:48
AveTenebraewxvlc perhaps12:49
topylipurplefeltangel: i'm thinking it might be a usb failure. if they say the scanner should "just work"12:49
purplefeltangeltopyli, okay, well in that case what should i do?12:49
theCoreAre they newbies here that want to become good with linux ?12:50
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topylipurplefeltangel: first, get mad and file a bug. then, all the friendly gurus here will help you out =)12:50
purplefeltangeltopyli: will it be able to be fixed tonight? :S i have a project due tomorrow...12:50
WebLOCHtheCore, sure if it will get my printer going :P12:50
gadrenwhat's your problem, purple?12:51
wjencan somebody tell me  howto solve this problem  i'm in hoary to breeze   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:51
PinTomy resolution is stuck 640X480 n e 1 know why this12:51
myk3ok12:51
topylipurplefeltangel: i don't thing i'll be able to help you with this. note that this is a busy channel with friendly people though12:51
lightbrightsmo: so how do I get my printer to work then?12:51
myk3i cant find it12:51
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topylipurplefeltangel: don't give up!12:51
theCoreWebLOCH, okay what is your prob ?12:51
WebLOCHlightbright, you having trouble print too ?12:51
lightbrightsmo:  you give no solutions :)12:51
myk3checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!12:51
purplefeltangeltopyli: where should i file the bug?12:51
visionhmm12:51
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purplefeltangeltopyli like, in which category?12:52
kemikAWH CHRIST IS THIS SDFAF12:52
visionthis the first time using this for me12:52
kemikgoddamn *"#"12:52
myk3what printer is it?12:52
kemikCUPS and Ubuntu server install... moar headache PLEASE?12:52
delltonyisn't hte command to show lines in nano   nano +line filename?12:52
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WebLOCHtheCore, i attached my HP Deskjet 950C via serial to my computer and added it under the 'printing' dialogs, but whenever I print I am told the document is sent to the printer  nad nothing happens12:52
lightbrightsmo: you just tell me what not to do because of personal reasons, yet offer me NO other solution!  I have to ger printer to work, so please offer ideas or solutions12:52
topylipurplefeltangel: oh, i'd let other people try first. then, it's an installer bug12:52
theCoreWebLOCH, ah a bad driver problem12:52
myk3`can someone help me12:52
lightbrightWebLOCH: my Canon iP1500 is not in printer listing12:52
myk3?12:52
myk3checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!12:52
theCoreWebLOCH, you see Printer status Ready, right ?12:53
xxviianyone know of a quality mp3/CD player with cool interface.. not xine or xmms.. need it for GNOME12:53
WebLOCHtheCore, I added it from the options in the dialogs, I haven't installed a driver yet, its the drive that came with it...  yeah Status is set to Ready12:53
lightbrightsmo: its no good just saying everything is bad to try, offer SOLUTIONS :)12:53
theCoreWebLOCH, yea, that's a driver problem12:54
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gepatinomyk3, it seems like you need some libs installed12:54
WebLOCHtheCore, they shipped ubuntu with bad drivers?12:54
smolightbright, I did say I was biased :)12:54
Remmelasmyk3 sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev should get you what you need, but really, it'd be easier to just install the software from the repositories12:54
lightbrightsmo:  ok ok!  so whats a SOLUTION?12:54
gepatinomyk3, try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop package from aptitude12:54
theCoreWebLOCH, no no it just that ubuntu has put the wrong drivers12:54
smolightbright, as I said, I found commercial drivers to do the job, and I've no idea how far the 1500 differs from the 3000 in that aspect12:55
theCoreWebLOCH, one sec. i will try to see what i can do12:55
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myk3o yea i forgot to12:55
WebLOCHtheCore, thanks for any assistance12:55
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mrchicagohello12:55
myk3i wanted to tell everyone i have sucsesfully converted 2 people to linux this week12:55
mrchicagohow can you create your own gdm theme12:56
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_jasonmyk3, gj12:56
myk3thnx12:56
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myk3useing ubunut of course12:56
mrchicagoheh12:56
theCoreWebLOCH, did you try reinstalling the printer?12:56
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topylixxvii: rhythmbox is the gnome default? not good enough?12:56
TokenBadwhats the new website like ubuntuguide.org but for version 5.10?12:56
_jasonmrchicago, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fTutorials12:57
mrchicagoanyone have any idea how to create a gdm theme12:57
Niomime again.. sorry for bugging you all. when running the CLI with no GUI on my laptop, sometimes it cuts off the bottom few lines. it does this during boot also.12:57
_jasonubotu, tell TokenBad about faq12:57
mrchicagothanks12:57
WebLOCHtheCore, how does one reinstall the printer?  All I did to install it was click on its name from a list... So I don't really know how i would uninstall it and reinstall it, unless you are suggesting I click on its already highlighted name?12:57
gadreni don't think there is one right now, Token12:57
kemikwhere's the guy that disabled the webinterface for cups ?!12:57
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rubemhi there...12:57
theCoreWebLOCH, lets try something12:58
WebLOCHtheCore, it seems that HP only supply windows drivers too, so not sure where I would get my own12:58
rubemwhere can I found good apt repos for ubuntu 5.04?12:58
lightbrightsmo: you cant be here in the channel all day just telling people not to do this and that etc WITHOUT offering an alternative SOLUTION12:58
WebLOCHtheCore, sure thing, ready when you are12:58
topyliTokenBad: ubuntuguide was a bad idea to begin with. it helped newbies zero because it didn't explain anything. it also got obsolete very quickly and plain incorrect12:58
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lightbrightsmo: so you recommend trying a different driver from the Canon list?  eg, 3000?12:58
theCoreWebLOCH, go in System - Admin - Printer12:58
rubemanyone?12:58
xxviitopyli: i'm looking for something with a cool looking interface. rhythmbox is what i use, but i'm looking for something out of the ordinary12:58
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WebLOCHlightbright, your problem with smo is academic, you wont get anywhere talking about it, you will just annoy people, including yourself.  If you come to IRC you need to expect certain attitudes unfortunately.12:58
WebLOCHtheCore, im there12:58
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WebLOCHtheCore, its listing my printer as Ready12:59
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theCoreWebLOCH: deleted any printers there12:59
rubemanyone know where to find good apt repos for ubuntu 5.04?12:59
lightbrightWebLOCH: yeah true!  theres always ppl like smo who dont ever offer solutions, just what doesnt work :)12:59
topylixxvii: oh i dunno. you're looking for looks, you can deal with any kind of usability? ;-)12:59
theCoreWebLOCH: so the only thing that left in is the new printer icon12:59
lexhideranyone know how to copy files alphabetically? my iriver usb disk plays in order copied.12:59
SoulPropagationhow do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?12:59
WebLOCHtheCore, yeah done01:00
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SoulPropagationalso, how can you have a badger be breezy?01:00
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rubem???01:00
theCoreWebLOCH: click New Printer01:00
WebLOCHlightbright, well I wouldnt say smo has been particularly bad, maybe not as helpful as you would like, but he did say he would be biased01:00
SoulPropagationrubem: it's in /etc/apt/sources.list already.01:00
WebLOCHtheCore, yup, you can go faster im pretty computer literate01:00
theCoreWebLOCH: fellow *carefully* the instruction01:00
topylixxvii: you could of course use a weird skin for something like mplayer or xmms or beep01:00
rubemSoulPropagation No it is not!01:00
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theCoreWebLOCH, okay01:00
myk3hey01:01
xxviitopyli: what01:01
myk3i got past the X erro01:01
myk3r01:01
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theCoreWebLOCH, so ... ?01:01
xxviitopyli: what's beep?01:01
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myk3now i have another one01:01
rubemSoulPropagation the lists in the source.list is very bad...01:01
SoulPropagation!mirrors01:01
ubotufrom memory, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive01:01
WebLOCHtheCore,  you just want me to fill in the steps and try again ?01:01
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lightbrightWebLOCH: beng biased is 1 thing and then not offering an alternative solution is another!  a person can be biased because they DO HAVE an alterntive solutions, yet smo  doesnt offer that alternative :P lol01:01
topylixxvii: beep-media-player is the package. it's the next generation of xmms some people seem to like it01:01
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myk3checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!01:01
myk3For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.01:01
theCoreWebLOCH, yep , so i will be sure that is a driver prob01:01
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myk3what is Qt01:02
myk3?01:02
WebLOCHtheCore, if i do this, it will be exactly the asme as before01:02
xxviitopyli: i'll check that out.. it's on apt-get ?01:02
SoulPropagationmyk3: it's KDE's version of GTK01:02
lightbrighttopyli: is beep-media-player available now for Ubuntu?01:02
TokenBadtopyli, I know that...but was talking about some info like that was on it01:02
xxviitopyli: on breezy repos?01:02
myk3Qt3?01:02
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TokenBadand to be honest that guide helped me alot when used it01:02
lightbrightwhat is qparted?01:02
topylixxvii: lightbright: it should be in universe01:02
WebLOCHtheCore, i added it, nothing is happening01:03
WebLOCHtheCore, got a testsheet pending01:03
xxviitopyli: thanks01:03
lexhideranyone know how to copy files alphatically? my iriver usb plays in order copied.01:03
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WebLOCHtheCore, well it reckons the job is printing01:03
theCoreWebLOCH, okay ... does the printer work under windows ?01:03
WebLOCHtheCore, yeah01:03
theCoreWebLOCH, so the printer is okay01:03
WebLOCHtheCore, yeah01:03
xxviitopyli: alright, downloading right now.. thanks man01:03
lightbrighttopyli: whats it called qparted?01:03
lightbrighttopyli:  is qparted similar to cfdisk?01:04
theCoreWebLOCH, the only remaining cause left is the driver01:04
myk3QT3?01:04
WebLOCHtheCore, yeah you said a number of times, but where do i obtain linux drivers for it?  HP only list windows drivers...01:04
SoulPropagationlexhider: man ls, look for sort01:04
skapplecan someone tell me how to enable dri on my disc drive? or is it drm?01:04
SoulPropagationthen do cp $(ls -whatever) /whatever01:04
topylilightbright: never tried it, but yes, it's a partitioning tool01:05
lightbrightWebLOCH: try this website: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html01:05
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lexhiderSoulPropagation, can I do that and keep directory structure?01:05
SoulPropagationlexhider: you should be able to01:05
theCoreWebLOCH: the thing is that ubuntu support your printer01:05
lexhiderSoulPropagation, thanks01:05
SoulPropagationyep01:05
lightbrighttopyli: qparted is not found in universe01:05
WebLOCHlightbright, cheers01:05
sunsuniwas trying to reinstall the xorg file - and this has ruined my install01:05
WebLOCHtheCore, im not seeing your point01:05
TokenBadhmm...I added the reps like it supposed to be...but when tried to do like the help says01:06
TokenBadgives error01:06
topylilightbright: so it seems. try gparted instead. it's the same thing but for gnome :)01:06
lightbrighttopyli: lol wll im using gnome :P01:06
theCoreWebLOCH: how do add your printer ?01:06
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theCoreWebLOCH: automatic or manual ?01:07
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WebLOCHtheCore, the way you jhust told me01:07
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lightbrightanyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer successfuly under Ubuntu?01:07
topyliapt-get install sleep01:08
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tizianohellouu01:08
lightbright!sleep01:08
ubotulightbright: Not a clue01:08
tizianodo you like UBUNTU?01:09
lightbrightme either, no clue bot :)01:09
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TokenBadlike I tried to install the restricted formats and flash and stuff..but it says can't find them01:09
SoulPropagationhow do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?01:09
theCoreWebLOCH: from the 1st dialog did you use Local Printer, or you selected a detected one ?01:10
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lexhiderSoulPropagation, ls defaults to sorted alphabetically, I'm not sure how to copy a directory and have it's contents copied alphabetically.01:10
SoulPropagation*shrug*01:10
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lightbrightTokenBad: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list01:10
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lightbrightTokenBad: then type:  sudo aptitude update01:10
guydebordok.  I really have tryed to fix this on my own! I have just set up the wireless system on my laptop. Now I am trying to respecify the network to connect to, but no dice. So wlan is is the wireless card, the interface is active.  The gateway device is wlan. okay? Now, in properties the Network Name (I think is nonspecific) i gave my own name. WEP key blank. configuration DHCP.  Should I try entering IP address manually?  If so what are the Subnet mask and G01:10
guydebordateway MAsks?01:10
Sedgeanyone have WoW working on Breezy with just wine? (i don't have cedega), i can't get past the mouse bug01:10
WebLOCHtheCore, I selected Local Printer01:10
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WebLOCHtheCore, I have also tried the detected one01:11
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WebLOCHlightbright, cheers for turbo print but it doesnt seem to work01:11
lexhiderSoulPropagation, also need to handle " " intelligently.01:11
theCoreWebLOCH, hum what a wierd problem, you should post it on the forum01:11
theCoreWebLOCH: I verified the drivers supplied in ubuntu are okay01:13
foxinesswhen i use fire fox and open many tab by time the system gos slow and very slow without response and the hardisk get loaud... ,and i have 512MB RAM and M 1.4 centrino ...is there sol i think am going to use epiphany01:13
WebLOCHtheCore, keeps saying "printer not connected, retrying in 30 seconds"01:13
mark__where can i download the w32codecs .deb from?01:14
Sedge!restricted01:14
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats01:14
Sedgecheck out that link mark__01:14
WebLOCH!FreeFormats01:15
ubotumethinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats01:15
theCoreWebLOCH: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html01:15
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mark__!FreeFormats01:15
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foxinessif any one use epiphany and know about ext to save sessions i will get use it01:15
theCoreWebLOCH: the parallel is'nt supported01:15
SoulPropagationhow do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?01:15
WebLOCH theCore, I guess thats that then lol01:16
theCoreWebLOCH: so you will need to plug your printer in the usb01:16
WebLOCHwill need to buy a usb cable then01:16
WebLOCHcheers for the help01:16
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robotgeekguydebord: if you use dhcp, you don't need gateway's and stuff01:18
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SoulPropagation...anyone?01:18
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tman_ubuntuHow do I change the label name of a mounted usb device?01:20
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thompa-Acan someone help with partitioning01:21
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david__Can anyone help me with an Evolution problem?01:21
tman_ubuntuthompa: what is it you're looking at doing?01:22
thompa-Ai would like to create a persistant home directory first01:22
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lightbrightwhat is libc6 exactly?01:23
tman_ubuntuThat should be easy enough.  Use gparted or qtparted, find free space and then partition a /home directory.01:23
david__I'm finding that evolution is not seeing the messages in my inbox.01:23
thompa-Aim in manula partitioning and have a 80GB ntfs to shrink, and a 213MB #4 i need to keep for the media player01:23
lightbrightwhen I use my dvd burner to try to burn something to it using gnomebaker, it says doesnt seem to appear to be juliet or something FAILED!  what can be wrong?01:23
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thompa-Atman_ubuntu: do i delete the ntfs partition and create half for linux?01:26
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aeon17xI had a problem with the latest Linux kernel update.01:27
Teatime_hi guys I am running ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook with no net connection (need to configure airport!), but I can't seem to install a simple RPM file, and ALIEN is not a recognised command, what shall I do?01:27
foxinesscan i use gparted to resize the current partition on ubuntu ?01:27
tman_ubuntuWell I'm not familiar with Manula application.  I believe qtparted or gparted will shrink an ntfs partition to free up some space.01:28
shutdownrunnerTeatime:install alien01:28
Teatime_how do I install alien without a net connection?01:28
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thompa-Asorry i meant manual partitioning01:28
aeon17xHow do I restore my bootup screen back to what it was? It turned to XUbuntu with the mouse thing in the middle... it looks nice, but I want the orange Ubuntu bootup screen. =/01:28
shutdownrunnerTeatime:go to packages.ubuntu.com and download proper package. do it on a computer in some Cafe01:28
Teatime_do usb sticks auto mount in ubuntu?01:29
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Toma-hey. whats the best way to bnackup encrypted dvds? i wanna copy my family guy season 1 dvd so i dont ruin it :)01:29
shutdownrunnerTeatime_:they should. at least in my case they never failed to mount01:29
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robotgeekTeatime_: airport extreme cards are not supported01:29
Teatime_ok I will try that first, is alien a .tar.gz?01:29
tman_ubuntube back...01:29
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shutdownrunnerTeatime:alien is already packaged for ubuntu so it should be .deb01:30
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Teatime_just double click a .deb?01:30
UeuecoyotlI messed up the mouse part in xorg.conf without making a backup and now X won't start. Is there a way to restore it?01:30
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g00r0nare there any good instant messenging alternatives to GAIM?01:30
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SoulPropagationg00r0n: kopete01:31
Toma-Ueuecoyotl: you can try dpkg-reconfigure01:31
shutdownrunnerTeatime:well, no. from command line as root dpkg -i alien[sth] .deb01:31
navaroneteatime > dpkg -i <name>.deb01:31
Toma-g00r0n: what protocol?01:31
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bur[n] erwhen gdebi is released, double-clicking a .deb will be possible01:31
g00r0naim, microsoft01:32
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Teatime_shadowrunner: how do I get root in the CLI in ubuntu?01:32
Ueuecoyotlg00r0n: I like Psi (jabber) and use transports to people who use MSN (or other protocols) but it can't send files or anything like that to people who use other protocols. Only messages.01:32
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UeuecoyotlToma-: Thanks, I'll try that.01:32
shutdownrunnerTeatime: I use root, because I'm used to it. You can use sudo if you want.01:32
djk_can anyone recommend a program to create torrents?01:33
Toma-g00r0n: gaim is the best multi-protocol IM... amsn is the best msn IM tho!01:33
navaroneUeue> at login screen you can get terminal br pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and login and edit your file01:33
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ppjd0tz9i want set standards for the minimum characters in passwords based on importance01:34
Ueuecoyotlnavarone: I don't even get to the login screen. It goes into terminal right away. I tried to edit the file but then I remembered that I didn't remember what to put in the mouse part :)01:34
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Teatime_shadowrunner: ok cool alien is installed, but now I have an error installing my rpm :D01:34
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PhoulWow this is a nice OS01:34
PhoulFirst time on it :)01:34
navaroneUeue> what kinda mouse? Seriel / usb or ps2?01:35
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Ueuecoyotlnavarone: Logitech MX1000, USB01:35
Teatime_shadowrunner: I have dependencies errors :(01:35
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ppjd0tz9i want an mx100001:36
UeuecoyotlIt's nice :)01:36
beginxattractionHey, ALL of my media players freeze up when I try to play something on them... what could be wrong? I have tried XMMS, Beep, VLC, Totem, amaroK, and Realplayer...01:36
ppjd0tz9i almost bought that saitek eclipse keyboard the other day but wasnt very impressed with the display01:36
ppjd0tz9felt cheap01:36
_jasonbeginxattraction, elaborate on freeze up... do they start playing?01:36
shutdownrunnerTeatime: that's a problem when you have no connection and you're not using apt01:37
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beginxattraction_jason, no it dosen't play anything... when you press play it just stops and Ihave to force quit01:37
ppjd0tz9ubuntu is too user friendly. i need to install debian 1.0 or something01:37
shutdownrunnerTeatime:well the only solution is to download all the required packages manually. it might take some time, unfortunately01:37
navaroneUeue> I have found the mouse section of a conf file you may be able to use or edit to your taste...i will try to paste in pastebin for you...brb01:37
ElsanIs it dangerous to edit my /etc/fstab file to remove a mount point?01:37
TokenBadI just tried to issue a command from help page for installing codecs..and it gives error for lame01:38
Ueuecoyotlnavarone: Ah thanks!01:38
_jasonbeginxattraction, if you run a media player, such as mplayer, in a terminal, do any errors show up in the terminal?01:38
TokenBadis that not avail anymore?01:38
purplefeltangeli am an onion ring.01:38
XenguyElsan: not if you backup the file first :-)01:38
beginxattraction_jason, I haven't tried it...01:38
navaroneanyone...waht is the pastebin url?01:38
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Xenguynavarone: /topic01:38
_jasonTokenBad, what was the command and what help page are you referring to01:38
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ElsanXenguy: Thanks :p01:39
navaronedanke01:39
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vicentealguien me puede echar una mano?01:39
TokenBadwiki.ubuntu.com and that lame wasn't found01:39
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vicentecomo podria instalarme el audacity01:39
XenguyElsan: yw01:39
vicenteme dice que faltan dependencias01:39
TokenBadand I added the reps01:39
djk_!es01:39
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:39
rohan_hi all01:39
lightbrightwhen I use my dvd burner to try to burn something to it using gnomebaker, it says doesnt seem to appear to be juliet or something FAILED!  what can be wrong?01:39
lightbrightany help please?01:40
SoulPropagationhow do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?01:40
rohan_i have backports enabled, but still k3b is not showing up in updates .. why ?01:40
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ppjd0tz9what /list command in chat sorts by amount of users? /list -s -u ?01:40
_jasonTokenBad, did you apt-get update after adding the repos?01:40
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ppjd0tz9xchat01:40
lightbrightrohan_: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list01:40
lightbrightrohan_: then update01:40
navaroneUeue> try this  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488101:40
ElsanCan I just remove the floppy line from my /etc/fstab file without any problem? I don't have any floppy drive and I don't want to see any traces of floppy at all.01:40
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PokerFacePenguinlightbright: has to do with long filenames is my best guess01:41
rohan_lightbright: thanks01:41
lightbrightElsan: sounds good to me01:41
TokenBad_jason, yes01:41
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N6REJevening everyone... I'm having a very interesting problem with date... please look here... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488201:41
Ueuecoyotlnavarone: Thank you, I'll go try that now.01:41
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: yeah that crossed my mind too, but doesnt linux handle long filenames unto DVD?01:41
TokenBadseems it was renamed to toolame I think01:41
Red-Soxshould I not reboot with the new update?01:41
PokerFacePenguinits the type of disc u burn....joliet vs other01:42
navaroneUeue> np01:42
_jasonTokenBad, what's the exact command you are using01:42
TokenBadsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins toolame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools01:42
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: should Jolian and Rockridge be ticked and selected?01:42
XenguyElsan: or just 'comment' the line (i.e. prepend a '#' character)01:42
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PokerFacePenguinlightbright: do you mean juliet?01:42
XenguyElsan: (which de-activates the line commented)01:42
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lightbrightTokenBad: if you use apt-get to install multiple files, do you use space between them?01:43
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lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: yes01:43
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: no Joliety01:43
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: no Joliet01:43
ElsanXenguy: Oh, better thnaks01:43
_jasonTokenBad, and it fails only on toolame?01:43
PokerFacePenguinI believe you should choose joliet only01:43
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: do you have gnomebaker?01:43
PokerFacePenguinon another partition01:43
XenguyElsan: yw01:43
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TokenBadit fails on lame01:43
TokenBadsays it isn't found01:43
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: load gnomebaker and notice when you chose write it has Joliet selected01:43
purplefeltangelk:-O01:43
Elsanlightbright: Thanks, gonna try it out.01:44
PokerFacePenguinlightbright: look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet_%28file_system%2901:44
delltonyanyone here good with php and mind helping me wth a small problem if so pm me thanks just trying to fgure out how to overcome the 2meg upload limit01:44
_jasonTokenBad, pastebin your soruces and lame isn't in the command you pasted01:44
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TokenBadsorry pasted wrong one01:44
TokenBadjust a sec01:44
servando#ubuntu01:44
servandohello01:45
TokenBadsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools01:45
TokenBadthat was the one01:45
servandoI am new to ubuntu01:45
TokenBadI changed it to toolame cause I did a search for lame01:45
lightbrightTokenBad: what does all that install?01:45
servandoI am trying to install emacs01:45
navaronewelcome to ubuntu setrvando01:45
PokerFacePenguinlightbright: in other words, joliet allows longer filenames01:45
_jasonTokenBad, pastebin your sources then because those packages are showing up for me01:45
servandoany help would be great01:45
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: should Jolian and Rockridge be ticked and selected when I burn a DVD?01:45
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: so why does it say FAILED, joliet not supported01:46
servandoNavarone : hello01:46
bimberiservando: the package is emacs2101:46
servandocould you tell me how to install01:46
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servandoI've been at it for some time now01:47
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: do yoiu have gnomebaker? if so load it and notice it says Joliet01:47
bimberiservando: use synaptic - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:47
PokerFacePenguinlightbright: you probably have too many file formats checked or something...i use KDE as my primary...GNOME is for my development01:47
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navaronehmm...has anyone tried the Lament screensaver? Very nice01:47
servandothanks01:47
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: and I have Joliet selected so why does it say FAILED, joliet not supported01:47
servandoI'll try it now01:47
bimberiservando: np :)01:47
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TokenBad_jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488501:47
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: you mean I should use k3b instead?01:47
dptHello everyone01:47
PokerFacePenguinthats what i use01:47
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: you use k3b under Gnome?01:48
WhtigerHello! I've looked in several places and I can't seem to find the update guide. I'd like to not lose any data. Thanks.01:48
theCoreWhat are those wierd msg from my dmesg ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488401:48
PokerFacePenguinunder kde01:48
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lightbrightPokerFacePenguin:  can you tell me everything that is selected in your k3b before you burn?01:48
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PokerFacePenguinbut it should work under gnome01:48
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rraajjHey all, I wanted to delete the packages copied by my installer to the hard drive. Where can I find them?01:48
bimberihi lightbright :) (no idea regarding your burning issue sorry)01:48
lightbrightElsan: did that work ok for you?01:48
lightbrightbimberi:  hi there :)01:48
_jasonTokenBad, get rid of "breezy-backports" and change it to just "breezy"01:49
PokerFacePenguinlightbright: u burning an .iso or what?01:49
dptI have ubuntu in spanish and i use gnome. Now, when i log in i have  an error message in gnome and (translating from spanish itnro english) it says "An already panel running was detected and will end now". Any idea?01:49
lightbrightbimberi:  yeah cant burn DVD says something like failed!  joliet not supported01:49
rohan_lightbright: are you sure u gave me the right post ?01:49
lightbrightPokerFacePenguin:  no drag and drop01:49
rohan_lightbright: d232 is a problem someone is experiencing01:49
lightbrightrohan_: type: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list01:49
servandono luck using synaptic01:49
servandohere is  the error01:50
servando Depends: emacs21-bin-common (=21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable01:50
lightbrightrohan_:  or go to:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and copy and paste that01:50
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rohan_lightbright: oh, i made a mistake in copy pasting. i used d23201:50
rohan_:)01:50
servandoman this is a busy channel01:50
bimberirraajj: "sudo aptitude clean" does it - /var/cache/apt/archives is the dir01:50
lightbrightrohan_: you need the "d" when uysing wget01:50
TokenBad_jason, what you mean?01:50
lightbrightrohan_:  just go to:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and copy and paste that01:50
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_jasonTokenBad, lines 29 and 30 have "breezy-backports" in them.  Change "breezy-backports" to "breezy".  then "apt-get update" and try again01:51
rraajjbimberi: Doesn't that delete ALL packages, including the ones I have already downloaded using apt?01:51
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rraajjbimberi: I just wanted to delete the old files, for they're taking up quite a large space in my disk. :)01:52
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lightbrightanyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer successfuly under Ubuntu please?01:52
bimberirraajj: it removes all the downloaded deb files (see man aptitude)01:52
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strokeyHello! Is anyone here what can help me with a ubuntu partition making/doing and how to get the web with ndiswrapper or whatever its called?01:52
n0dlis there a list of printers supported by ubuntu somewhere?01:52
PokerFacePenguinlightbright: if i had to guess at the prob, i would go to the advanced tab and check allow 101 char filenames01:52
lightbrightbimberi: I was told of a way to install printer drivers by downloading rpm and use alien to convert to deb for Ubuntu!  is this safe?01:53
_jasonnodl, yes search the wiki for printers01:53
xsje!time format01:53
ubotuNo idea, xsje01:53
PokerFacePenguiner 10301:53
PhoulI just installed ubuntu :) i was just wondering how to configure gnome01:53
PhoulLike how do i do it?01:53
TokenBad_jason, isn't that line the first couple lines listed?01:53
bimberiservando: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:53
servandowow I am glad to see I am not the only one having trouble01:53
TokenBadwhere it says breezy main restricted01:53
servandosure01:53
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lightbrightPokerFacePenguin: gnomebaker doesnt have advanced tab01:54
PokerFacePenguink3b01:54
dooglusnalioth: thanks for the "man ntfsresize" tip.  that worked for me eventually.  I had to "chkdsk /f" from windows, which ntfsresize told me to do.01:54
bimberilightbright: should be ok, worth a try if you've exhausted other avenues01:54
naliothdooglus: good show!01:54
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_jasonTokenBad, no, you must be misunderstanding me, join me in #flood for a second01:54
lightbrightbimberi:  yeah :)01:54
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strokeyCan anyone here guide a little newbie on how to go about installing ubuntu and using ndispapper? or something01:54
dooglusnalioth: I had to get drunk before I was brave enough to run the actual resize mind.  but it worked :)01:54
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rohan_lightbright: that still doesnt update my k3b from breezy-backports01:54
PokerFacePenguinndiswrapper01:54
strokeythats it ;o01:55
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strokeyI tried the live cd, but i couldent seem to get ndiswrapper to..do anything01:55
lightbrightrohan_: go to that website I gave you anbd copy that and paste into your sources.list01:55
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lightbrightrohan_:  than type:  sudo aptitude update01:55
bimberistrokey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:55
n0dl _jason: whats the search word i tried ubuntu supported printers and ubuntu printers01:55
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PokerFacePenguinstrokey: was the wifi card enabled with iwconfig?01:55
lightbrightrohan_:  then type sudo aptitude install k3b01:55
strokeybimberi , all my websites seem to be blocked atm :/01:55
WengAlright, so I've got a system set up that absolutely refuses to in any way, shape, or form, acknowledge the existance of any new or changed hardware until I reinstall Ubuntu. Thoughts on how I can actually avoid re-setting-up this server another 15 times because the hardware has to change subtly?01:56
PhoulIs anyone willing to help me?...01:56
servandohey this is a really long are you sure you want it01:56
_jasonnodl, just put "printers" and look at the links, it should be the first one01:56
rohan_lightbright: ok, k3b is not there for i38601:56
rohan_thanks anyway01:56
rohan_:)01:56
rohan_cya01:56
lightbrightrohan_:  Uncoment backports01:56
lightbrightrohan you need to remove the #01:56
strokeyPokerFacePenguin: can we PM ? This channel is crowded :x01:56
Teatime_shadowrunner:  10 PACKAGES! to install 1!01:56
bimberiservando: yes but don't paste it here, put it on that site and give me the url01:56
PhoulIs somone willing to help me out?01:56
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rezahello01:56
servandok01:56
intelikeyPhoul that is a bad question.      you might try just asking what you need to know.01:56
WengFor example, I added a new NIC, in this case, eth1. Ubuntu doesn't see eth1, and even if I manually edit the config files, it refuses to use eth1.01:57
PhoulHeh well im new and i would like to know some nice stuff about ubuntu01:57
WengIf I were to reinstall, setup would see eth1, and the resulting system would be able to use eth1.01:57
The_Voxanybody got a clue about how to find which packages, installed or not, depend on a particular package?01:57
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navaronelightbright > check this url for printer info  http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2005q2/002129.html01:57
servandohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488601:58
intelikeynice stuff about ub.... hmmm it's free, it's open source, it is well supported....01:58
Elsanlightbright: Sorry for not responding. Yes it did, I'm still here, I'm always scared it won't reboot(I did some errors before). It doesn't show up in "Poste de travail" folder(My Computer in english?)01:58
Phoulanyone?01:58
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PhuzionCan someone suggest a good free SSH client for Windows?01:58
WengSo, I'm thinking something's a little odd in the hotplug components - any known issues with the Intel Serverworks chipsets?01:58
djk_can anyone recommend a program to create torrents, azureus is giving me problems?01:58
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PhuzionBecause PuTTY is making me mad.01:58
The_VoxPhuzion: putty is usually the best there is...why is it making you mad?01:58
ElsanHow can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...01:59
PhuzionYou can't go back to the menu screen after making a connection.01:59
Phoulokay i have a real question now :P01:59
PhoulWhere do i go to configure gnome?01:59
n0dldoes anyone know the wiki search word for ubuntu supported printers?01:59
Teatime_what is the command to change the permissions on a folder to r w x01:59
PhuzionTeatime:  chmod rwx filename01:59
servandoI think  see what you are up to I need to uncomment something from the sources.list   Right ?01:59
Phuzionfoldername*01:59
SWATwill Ubuntu run well on a Celeron 1.4ghz with 512ram? (laptop)02:00
PhuzionDefinately.02:00
SWATnice :)02:00
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SWATthanks02:00
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PhoulCould somone help me?02:00
The_VoxPhuzion: you mean the connect screen?02:00
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PhuzionYes02:00
bimberiservando: ok, you only have the cdrom enabled at present - you need to enable the online repositories -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:00
lightbrightif I want to apt-get install 15 files, do I use apt-get install file1 file2 file3 ?02:00
_jasonlightbright, yes02:00
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PhoulUmm02:00
lightbright_jason: cool thanks02:01
servandosweet02:01
Phuzionlightbright, don't put commas or any crap between them02:01
PhoulIs there anyone who can help me figure out where i can configure linux02:01
PhoulI mean gnome*02:01
The_VoxPhuzion: uhm...no, you can't go back to that, you need to close putty and open it again...it's one of the few misdesigns of it that I've noticed the few times I've had to use it02:01
cocoxhi dudes all the linux distros use the same kernell ?02:01
navaroneLightbright> did you go to page wiht printer info?02:01
lightbrightPhuzion: ok just empty space02:01
The_VoxPhoul: in your menu there must be a Control Center or similarly named link...click it02:01
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lightbrightnavarone: what page?02:01
Phuzionlightbright, yes02:01
navaronehttp://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2005q2/002129.html02:01
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jacobuI am having trouble with an HP zv6000 laptop, running ubuntu 5.10 x64.  x.org says that it is not configured properly and crashes.  I have an ati radeon xpress 200M built into this thing.  Does anybody know what might cause this and/or have a solution?02:02
lightbrightnavarone: no sorry i miised your message!  will go now :) brb02:02
Phuzionlightbright:  apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server502:02
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navaronelightbright> np02:02
PhoulThe_Vox: where?.... i dont see it02:02
bimbericocox: they use the linux kernel yes, but each would have their own variants02:02
cocoxoh thank u and what is the last release for the ubuntu kernell ?02:03
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The_VoxPhoul: I can't tell you exactly where 'cause I don't use gnome, but I'm pretty sure there is one02:03
bimbericocox: 2.6.12 (in ubuntu breezy)02:03
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PhoulThe_vox do you use KDE?02:03
The_VoxPhoul: if you can't find it, open a terminal and type "gnome-control-center" (no quotemarks) and hit enter02:03
lightbrightnavarone: great thanlks, problem is I cant read Canon.jp to find the canon printer files :(  I cant read Japanese02:03
The_VoxPhoul: yes, I use kde02:03
varsendaggerhas anyone gotten quake 2 to work?02:03
varsendaggerthere should be a wiki02:04
n0dldoes anyone know if Canon S300 works with ubuntu02:04
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PhoulUmm vox how do i get kde? i didnt install kubuntu is there anyway tho?02:04
bimbericocox: dapper (the ubuntu develoopment release) might have something later but i'm not sure02:04
LjLPhoul: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:04
Phoulsudo? aptitude?02:04
navaronelightbright> if you traced thread back the author gives his site where files are  http://linux.cergynux.net/canon/   I would think you need the deb file with ip1500 in the name02:04
varsendaggerPhoul, what are you dong02:04
varsendaggerdoing02:05
LjLPhoul: typing that will install your KDE desktop02:05
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PhoulIm trying to get kde02:05
varsendaggerahh02:05
cocoxi have activaded the automatic updates here in ubuntu ... it will upgrade automaticaly my kernell every new released?????????02:05
Phoulljl will it leave gnome?02:05
seth_slackwarehey02:05
PhoulBecause i like both...02:05
LjLPhoul: yes02:05
PhoulOkay02:05
dptHello everyone02:05
dptI have ubuntu in spanish and i use gnome. Now, when i log in i have  an error message in gnome and (translating from spanish itnro english) it says "An already panel running was detected and will end now". Any idea?02:05
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LjLPhoul: only disadvantage, the menus will be a bit of a mess, as both KDE and Gnome programs will be found in the same menus02:05
seth_slackwareJust did a free install of brezzy and have 1 little issue02:05
servandobimberi : Thank you very much I got it02:05
dpti do not know how to avoid getting that msg when i log in02:05
seth_slackwarelibgl1-mesa-dri is broken and apt-get will not fix it02:06
SWATPhuzion, still there?02:06
bimberiservando: great! np :)02:06
navaronelightbright> I think the last file on the page...1.8 mb02:06
lightbrightnavarone: yes I found that website!  and may I ask your opion about soemthing!  Some guy says to use alian to avoid having to install Debian libc6!02:06
naliothseth_slackware: if you open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get intall libgl1-mesa-dri" it'll tell you how to fix it02:06
asonjay99where can i get good linux themes and what not02:06
lightbrightnavarone:  can you look at this pls: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=56725&pp=1002:06
SWATPhuzion, what would you say about this laptop (office/programming purposes) HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6110, Celeron M360 1.4GHz, 768MB RAM, 15"TFT (1024*768), 40GB HD, Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN ?02:06
lightbrightnavarone:  and scroll to bottom please02:06
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SWATPhuzion, I only want a 2nd opinion :-)02:06
lightbrightnavarone: sctoll to: "Well, actually, you don't need to reinstall libc6. Ubuntu's version works quite well for the driver. It's just not recognized as appropriate by dpkg."02:07
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cocoxi have activaded the automatic updates here in ubuntu ... it will upgrade automaticaly my kernell every new released?????????02:07
lightbrightnavarone:  whats your personal opinion about doing it that way and converting the rpm using alien as that guy recommedned?>02:07
bimbericocox: no, the automatic updates will continue to update your current release's (eg. breezy) kernel which almost certainly won't change version.  You have to take action to go to the next ubuntu release02:07
servandoI am rolling now02:07
lightbrightnavarone:  I value your view, so I wanted to ask02:08
servandoI got my beloved emacs02:08
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seth_slackwarenelioth: I get a apt-get error 5lineish, can I flood?02:08
bimberiservando: :)02:08
servandoI take back all the mean things I have said about Ubuntu02:08
asonjay99does anyone know wher i can find themes for ubuntu02:08
bimberiseth_slackware: no, pastebin please - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:08
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bimberi!themes02:08
armor98926hey people02:09
_jasonasonjay99, do you use gnome?02:09
PokerFacePenguinlightbright: allien can get you in trouble...handle with care02:09
asonjay99yes02:09
seth_slackwareok02:09
armor98926can anyone tell me how to get something equivalent to flash player 802:09
bimberihm, !themes factoid too long02:09
navaronelightbright> if you feel more comfortable installing and using alien go for it. I don't think it will bring your system crashing down either way. I have installed some debs from other sources and have not experienced any bad effects. But maybe someone here would be better qualified to respond to your concerns02:09
_jasonasonjay99, http://www.gnome-look.org/02:09
asonjay99_jason: thank you02:09
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bimberiubotu tell asonjay99 about themes02:09
PhoulUmm02:09
varsendaggerlightbright, what are you installing02:10
PhoulIt keeps timing me out02:10
TokenBadwhat version of mplayer should I get if I am normal pc?02:10
Phoulsudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop <-- it gets part way then times me out02:10
TokenBadthe 386 one right?02:10
lightbrightnavarone: ok ty02:10
servandoguess I'll stick around for a while to see what I can learn02:10
armor98926where can i get something equivalant for flash player 8?02:10
lightbrightvarsendagger:  my Canon printer!  Please read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=56725&pp=1002:10
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armor98926equivalent to*02:11
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navaronevarsendagger> he want to get printer drivers in deb file and is concerned that they could be unstable as people have suggested using alien instead to convert rpm to deb first02:11
seth_slackwarenelioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488802:11
iamkirkwow , i need help badly02:11
bimberiarmor98926: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:11
cyphasedoes anyone have a wireless card working on a desktop out of the box?02:11
cyphaserunning ubuntu of course02:11
armor98926bimberi: what would that do?02:11
lightbrightvarsendagger:  notice at end of that page some guy recommened instead to use alien so I dont have to use Debian libc6 overwrtring the Ubuntu one02:11
servandoI have read that espon printers work the best for linux02:11
iamkirkIm getting grub error 17..... wtf do i so i cant boot into anything02:11
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cyphaseservando, mine works at least :)02:11
lightbrightvarsendagger: whats your thoughts?02:11
bur[n] erSeveas: u play with that bmp fork yet?  I know you're a bmp fan02:12
cocoxbimberi: thnx u a looooooot :)02:12
servandoI am thinking about buying a espon02:12
bimberiarmor98926: it includes details on installing flashplayer.  Or are you after 8 specifically?02:12
bimbericocox: np :)02:12
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_jasonservando, see what they say at linuxprinting.org if you haven't yet02:12
armor98926bimberi: im after any of them02:12
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lightbrightnavarone: yeah because I read its not good idea to install the Debian libc6 over Ubuntu!  So it seems safer to alien the rpm saving me having to install Debian libc602:12
lightbrightnavarone:  both ways have drawbacks, yet I wonder which was is the best02:13
armor98926bimberi: so well that tell me how to do it or is that where i can install it from?02:13
iamkirkGRUB loading, please wait...02:13
navaronelightbright> apples and oranges my friend ;)02:13
iamkirkError 1702:13
servandoI currently have a lexmark X7502:13
varsendaggeri would agree with not overwrighting libc6  - i personally don't know what libc6 is but it sounds important02:13
iamkirkcan anyone help me02:13
servandowhat a piece of junk02:13
bimberiservando: http://linuxprinting.org/suggested.html02:13
lightbrightnavarone:  or I can install the Debian libc6 and then remove it after printer is set up and install the Ubuntu libc6 again!  Whats you think?02:13
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lightbrightnavarone:  which way would you go? :)02:13
bimberiarmor98926: how to do it :)02:13
servandoI bought it cause it was cheaper to buy a bew printer than to buy more ink02:13
lightbrightnavarone: the apples or the oranges? :)02:14
armor98926bimberi: ok thanx02:14
intelikeyiamkirk google grub error 17 ?02:14
servandoNow I see why02:14
armor98926later people02:14
varsendaggerlightbright, i have aliend other programs, in fact the rpm's form OO.o run alot alot better then the one i can apt-get02:14
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iamkirkIntelikey : 17 : Cannot mount selected partition02:14
iamkirkThis error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.02:14
Milk_Good evening!02:14
WengSo, no ideas on why hardware detection refuses to work for me?02:14
lightbrightvarsendagger: ok so what you recommend?  alien the rpm so I dont have to overwrite Ubuntu libc6 ?02:15
servandoGot Milk02:15
Milk_has anyone ever tried to install TinyFugue?02:15
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iamkirkany idea how to fix this without formatting again.... trying to get this working for 2 days02:15
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servandosorry I had to say that02:15
Milk_servando, hehehe02:15
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navaronelightbright...use alien...you never know when you will need it again a ta later date for another install02:15
seth_slackwareCan someone please look at this error, trying to fix broken libgl1 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/488802:15
Milk_servando, happens all the time02:15
lightbrightnavarone: ok Ill do it that way02:15
pc22how do u install a *.run file02:15
bimberiseth_slackware: hm, try "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri_6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1_i386.deb" and retry (also you're misspelling the nick you've been addressing)02:15
seth_slackwarepc22 chmod it right and ./ it02:15
Milk_pc22, ./FILE or sh FILE02:15
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varsendaggerlightbright, yes that is what i'd recommend, i don't thing anything will get hurt02:16
pc22thanks02:16
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intelikeyiamkirk what is the fs type ?02:16
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iamkirkent 3 or something02:16
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Milk_Ok.. differnet question.. does anyone MUD and can you recomend a client?02:16
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n0dldoes anyone know a good site on how to use non web based email?02:17
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intelikeyext3 ?02:17
iamkirkthats it02:17
iamkirkcani pm you ?02:17
Got_MilkHello Milk_02:17
bimberinavarone: which album? :)02:17
intelikeyna keep it here.02:17
iamkirkok02:17
seth_slackwarebimberi: Worked thanks alot02:17
Milk_Got_Milk, hehehe02:17
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iamkirkthis is gonna take some space....02:18
bimberiseth_slackware: great! np :)02:18
Got_Milkchange nick02:18
Got_Milkit is I Servando02:18
intelikeydon't flood.02:18
navaronebimberi> I have assorted...Listening to once upon a time in the west atm02:18
Milk_am I really the only one who muds?02:18
intelikey!paste02:18
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:18
intelikeyiamkirk ^02:18
pc22what is a dialog program?02:18
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kbrooksping.02:18
bimberinavarone: ah :)02:19
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kbrooksHow do I get quicktime movies to play?02:19
kbrookstotem complains of a decoder02:19
navaronebimberi> I've been adding to my collection...<s>02:19
Got_Milkwish I could be of more help here02:19
kbrookswhatever that is02:19
Got_Milkbut02:19
iamkirkI just got everything working... or so i thought... I ended up installing windows on the laptop as well.....  so i have : 10gb partition for windows... 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and the remaining 45 in an extended partition setup as logical drives...02:19
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Milk_kbrooks, theres a great howto on the wiki about codecs02:19
kbrooksMilk_, url02:19
Got_Milkit seems that bimberi has it under control02:19
iamkirkeverything worked fine until i diced up the remaining 45 into the logical drives02:20
mindlaceI have a machine with a XFX SATA RAID card. It is supported by the generic_ide module after 2.6.13. What's the easiest way for me to get to a new .iso that's just like the existing one except with 2.6.13?02:20
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Milk_kbrooks, http://wiki.ubuntu.com  search for media02:20
iamkirknow i am getting the error 17 about not being able tyo mount the drive02:20
mindlace(kernel 2.6.13)02:20
bimberiGot_Milk: heh, no way, just lucky there a few queries i could help with :P02:20
kbrookssite:wiki.ubuntu.com media < faster02:20
bimberi*there was02:20
towsonu2003hi, I am a little panicked about this kernel upgrade... being a newbie and so on... when I do the upgrade, will my old kernels (I have 2, 386 and 686) stay in GRUB so that I can boot ubuntu even if new kernels don't work??? also, what is the total number of entries grub can hold?? I currently have 7 entries (3 for each kernel   1 for windows)??? I'm gonna have a heart attack (and it's gonna be hard to download all thru dial u02:20
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navaronegotta like multiple workplaces...putting file browser and xmss in workplace 2 keeps things tidy02:21
towsonu2003wow that was a long question => sorry all...02:21
Milk_kbrooks, didn't realise I was here to make your life faster *WINK*02:21
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intelikeyyou ran windows fdisk and made the extended partition iamkirk ?02:21
iamkirkyea02:21
lightbrightvarsendagger: ok thanks for your time and help02:21
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iamkirkdid it from the point click manager02:21
pirxhi! if i want a module to load with some certain option, where do i spec that in the startup files? (5.10)02:21
iamkirkif you get what i mean02:21
intelikeyiamkirk i'm sorry.....  good luck with it.    (you will need it)02:22
kbrooksmilk_: lol02:22
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robotgeekpirx: mostly in /etc/modprobe.d/02:22
iamkirkreally ?02:22
varsendaggerlightbright, hope it goes well02:22
lightbrightdo I need to install anything else besides this to get full mulitmedia support, eg, play mp3 and video files etc?02:22
lightbrightsudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine02:22
cyphaseDoes anyone have a PCI wireless card working on an Ubuntu desktop out of the box?02:22
lightbrightvarsendagger:  thanks im going to do all that a little later and tell you the feedback thanks agian :)02:22
varsendaggercool02:22
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varsendaggerRed-Sox, hey!!!02:23
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intelikeyiamkirk it has messed up your partition table.   you may be able to fix it.    or may not.02:23
Red-Soxvarsendagger, hey02:23
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Red-Soxvarsendagger, I got it done02:23
varsendaggernice02:23
armor98926bimberi: hey im trying to view text on a game what do i need?02:23
varsendaggerit wasn't so bad02:23
iamkirkwell im in the partition manager from the ubuntu cd02:23
Red-Soxvarsendagger, thank you soooooo much02:23
towsonu2003anyone who can help me?02:23
Milk_well.. I"m off to see if I can't figure out what is wrong with tinyfugue02:23
pc22what is a dialog program?02:23
iamkirki ended up booting from cd.... ive just formatted so ive nothing on the laptop im worried about02:23
bimberilightbright: you might need w32codecs, but that should be enough for starters02:23
iamkirkthis would be my 3rd time in 2 days installing ubuntu02:24
lightbrightbimberi:  ah yes I knew I forgot something :) thanks02:24
iamkirkyou have no advice at all ?02:24
intelikeysome one should build a partition tabel rebuilding tool.   that can fix these hibird disks.02:24
lightbrightbimberi:  and after installing all that, do I have to type: gst-register-0.8  ?02:24
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varsendaggerRed-Sox, what was it that naolith sugested using to install checkinstall02:24
intelikeyno iamkirk sorry, i don't.02:24
navaronetowsonou> after you confirm new kernel is stable you can probalby delete backup and edit ftab to remove the entries pointing to them02:24
Red-Soxvarsendagger, thats it, thats what it wa02:24
iamkirksee if i wasnt installing windows i wouldnt have a problem02:24
Red-Soxs*02:25
iamkirkfucking winblows is a problem to the bitter end02:25
bimberiarmor98926: where is the text, in a file?02:25
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iamkirkima kick bill gates in the junk02:25
varsendaggerare there any women here? --- im not being weird, my wife wants to know02:25
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varsendaggeriamkirk, true that02:25
method55i just updated firefox from 1.0.0 to 1.0.7 with the updater and now it doesnt run...i am new to linux02:25
armor98926bimberi: i dont know its in an actual game so i dont think it is02:25
navaroneiamkirk> he won't feel it...he keeps his wallet next to his junk ;)02:25
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naliothiamkirk: please be respectful of others02:25
armor98926bimberi: its an online game02:25
iamkirksorry... was just venting02:25
towsonu2003navarone : so, after kernel upgrade (from I believe 2.9.10 to 2.9.12), old kernels will stay in place and GRUB has no limits.. is that correct / did I understand it correctly?02:26
Greveshow can i enable remote desktop (securely) to access it from an off-network site?02:26
naliothubotu: tell varsendagger about checkinstall02:26
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mindlaceso ok I see how I can compile a new kernel, but how do I make a new install .iso?02:26
bimberiarmor98926: hard to know sorry, in a bash shell you can "cat" it, or use gedit to view in gui02:26
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armor98926bimberi: cat it whats that mean?02:26
intelikeyiamkirk i do have a sujestion, but you wont like it.     erase everything, install windows on the hd leaving all the free space for other partitions you can and then install linux,  afterwards from within linux make logical drives as desired.02:26
kjcolemethod55, try:  cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/weirdnumber/ ; rm XUL.*02:26
N6REJnalioth: I need some serious help.... /dev/hda6 is /var/lib/mysql and for some reason it doesn't mount on reboot and there IS an entry in fstab02:27
iamkirkwell see someone gave me somewhat similar advice to that02:27
navaronetowsonou> I don't kow about no limits...but I think you shouldn't fret to much about it. I did kernel upgrade to new 383 and then upgraded again to the 686 arch without prob02:27
iamkirkthey just said to do the parts from winblows instead02:27
iamkirkthings might work after just reinstalling ubuntu02:27
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Greves?02:27
varsendaggernalioth, that is awesome02:27
bimberiarmor98926: cat <file>    <- displays the contents of a file (short for catenate)02:27
iamkirkall i know is ive got the installation of ubuntu down pat ;P02:27
iamkirkill let you know how it goes intel02:28
armor98926bimberi: how can i do that. have you heard of gaio online? if so thats what i cant view is the text in the trainstation area02:28
Got_Milkwell I wanted to say thanks for the help I am off to explore the other channels02:28
Got_Milkbut02:28
iamkirkwhat im doing now is only affecting my ext3 and swap partitions02:28
bimberiarmor98926: if it's a long file you can use "less <file>" which lets you step through the file (amongst other things)02:28
Got_MilkI'll be back02:28
iamkirkleaving my 2 FAT32 and windows partitions02:29
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intelikeywindows didn't used to be able to handle more than one primary partition iamkirk, that is the reason i say use linux to do your extended partitioning, so it doesn't mess with the primaries.02:29
towsonu2003oki, thanks :)02:29
bimberiarmor98926: aha, sorry i don't how in that environment :/02:29
iamkirkwindows can handle 402:29
armor98926bimberi: do you know what im talking about though?02:29
iamkirki have 3 and an extended seperated into two logical02:29
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intelikeyk that would be xp then, you never specified winver.02:30
kbrookshttp://mochikit.com/screencasts/MochiKit_Intro-1.mov02:30
iamkirkim sorry , my bad02:30
bimberiarmor98926: i think so :)02:30
iamkirkill be clearer next time , as you will hear from me again02:30
kjcoleby the way, if  you like 'less', try 'most'.   it's  in universe, and it's a great pager.02:30
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intelikeyk02:30
kbrooks"totem coulde not play fd://0"02:30
iamkirkdo you ise messenger intel ?02:30
iamkirk*use02:30
kbrooksthere are no decoders found to handle the stream02:31
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intelikeyno02:31
armor98926bimberi: so you have heard of the site and im talking about the bots in the court yard you know you have to click them to talk to them but i cant see the text that comes up02:31
ravvIm mounting a share over sshfs, is there any way to make it try ti estabkish the connection automaticaklly periodically?02:31
kbrooksand i might want to install plugins02:31
ravvdammit hard to speel in the dark02:31
kbrooks"totem coulde not play fd://0"02:31
armor98926bimberi: hopefully that helps out a little02:31
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Grevesis there a way to secureyl open up remote desktop to the internet, so i can log onto my home linux box from my work windows box?02:31
bimberiarmor98926: no, i've not played that game, i understand the issue, but i don't think i can offer much help sorry02:31
naliothGreves: do it over an ssh tunnel02:32
armor98926bimberi: alright thanx anyway02:32
kbrooks"there are no decoders found to handle the stream  and  i might want to install plugins"02:32
Grevesnalioth: do you have some instructions or a page that does?02:32
armor98926does anyone play on gaiaonline?02:32
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typewriteris there any problems running 64bit ubuntu?02:33
iamkirkwow.... did you see this intel.. ?02:34
iamkirkWhen a system has multiple HDDs the /boot partition has to be on the first hard disk that BIOS boots from and preferebly on the first 1024 cylinder (~8.5GB area) some system BIOS cannot reach any further02:34
iamkirklearn something new every day :P02:34
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WengAlright02:34
vanguardYo.02:34
Wenglets try phrasing it this way02:34
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naliothGreves: ask uncle google "vnc ssh tunnel"02:34
Wengis there any way that I can FORCE the system to rescan hardware?02:34
ravvGreves, ssh tunnel using putty02:34
bimberitypewriter: well no, unless nonfree binary formats are important to you (flash, java ...).  also wine isn't available (possibly a good thing :P)02:34
zblachhey. i can't remember. how to burn .bin and .cue in ubuntu?02:34
intelikeyiamkirk yeah.02:35
WengSince dmesg hasn't been updated... EVER, I can only assume it's actually NOT scanning during boot.02:35
kbrooksWeng, man sfdisk02:35
Weng(how that's even possible, I can't even begin to imagine.02:35
armor98926bimberi: speaking of wine how do i get a good version of it on my pc?02:35
bimberitypewriter: sorry, java is available (D'Oh)02:35
armor98926bimberi: and with wine cant i install window things?02:35
naliothravv: putty is for windows02:35
ravvDUH02:36
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[3Style] PokerFacePenguin: um02:36
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bimberiarmor98926: it's in the ubuntu repositories02:36
zblachhow to burn .bin with ubuntu? i can't remember which program (if any) i need02:36
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bimberiarmor98926: theoretically yes, check for what runs at http://winehq.org02:37
kbrookszblach, bin2iso ?02:37
armor98926bimberi: what do you mean sorry im not that great with programs02:37
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Wengkbrooks: I fail to see how changing the partition tables on the drives it can see is going to help it see the other drives I just added, or to see the NICs that it's ignoring.02:37
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IamSamhey02:37
IamSamhas anyone seen the python channel02:37
pjssilvaHello, I have two systems experiment major kernel leaks. I believe it may be related to inotify and the following bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18473. Is there anybody else experimenting weird memory leaks in their system?02:37
iamkirkIntel... once i got ubuntu to write grub to the mbr things seem to be working fine02:38
zblachkbrooks, can't seem to find that one with synaptic.02:38
intelikeyiamkirk some system installers prefer to make a /boot partition on the first data sector of the hd of about 50m - 250m in size.  but that is mostly for multi-boot systems where you may have 4/5 *nix + 1/2 windows systems installed and maybe vmware.02:38
typewriterall the US mirrors are slow...02:38
bimberiarmor98926: "sudo aptitude install wine" will install it (or use synaptic)02:39
lightbrightis it hard to install limewire?02:39
armor98926bimberi: thanx02:40
LjL!tell lightbright about limewire02:40
kbrookshttp://mochikit.com/screencasts/MochiKit_Intro-1.mov < plays fine?02:40
bimberiarmor98926: np :)02:40
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_jasonkbrooks, yes02:40
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devilzhi02:40
devilzcan i ask someone where can i get password of root02:40
devilzi just installed ubuntu02:40
_jasonkbrooks, well the last link you pasted did, I assume that's the same one?02:40
intelikey!root02:40
ubotuI guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:40
lightbrightLjL: thanks :)02:40
armor98926later people and thanx again02:40
bimberiarmor98926: cya :)02:41
intelikeydevilz root password is not set unless you set it.02:41
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devilzintelikey, well02:41
devilzhow i set it02:41
lightbrightLjL: how do I install Java?02:41
lightbright!tell lightbright about Java02:42
LjL!tell lightbright about javadebs02:42
kbrooksitokay02:42
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kbrooksok02:42
bimberilightbright: you can "/msg ubotu java" too :)02:42
intelikeydevilz 'sudo passwd '   and when it first asks for your password type your user password, then follow the instructions.02:42
navaronelightbright> in Add Applications Internet/More programs you can install Blackdown java...it will tell it must enable multiverse repos first02:42
lightbrightbimberi:  yes I realised that now as it told me :) hehe sorry02:43
_jasondevilz, you don't need root, just use sudo for everything02:43
lightbrightnavarone: ok thanks02:43
bimberilightbright: np :)02:43
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TokenBadazureus isn't supported by ubuntu anymore right?02:43
TokenBador whatever cause of java?02:43
navaronelightbright> i installed it and my java based p2p client is flawless02:43
devilzah ty02:44
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intelikey<_jason> devilz, you don't need root, <--- do what?    me thinks you mean you don't need to set a root password.02:44
zblachTokenBad, there was some package mismanagement02:44
devilzso i dont need su02:44
N6REJ<---- desperately needs help with his /etc/fstab configuration I think02:44
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_jasonintelikey, yeah that's what i meant02:44
devilzbtw02:44
devilzdo i have msn02:44
devilzon ubuntu02:44
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N6REJ*EEEK*02:44
bimberidevilz: you can use "sudo -i" to get a root shell (without having to set a root password)02:44
intelikey!msn02:44
ubotuintelikey: I don't know02:44
TokenBadzblach, so its back in..or still isn't?02:45
zblachTokenBad, don'tinstall azureus with synaptic02:45
zblachinstall it manually02:45
zblachi was having isuses with it and eclipse02:45
nate1231hello guys02:45
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N6REJintellikey: I've got a serious fstab problem... its not mounting one of the partitions for some reason.02:45
lightbrightnavarone: ok i selected java Web Start Blackdown Java :)  is that all I need?02:45
TokenBadzblach, ok just apt-get install azureus or download it from the site and install?02:46
navaronelightbright> I think so02:46
Grevessshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path02:46
Grevesany idea?02:46
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lightbrightnavarone: what p2p client did you install?02:46
navaronelightbright> phex2.802:46
intelikeydevilz if you are used to linux and using the root account for admin.  you can set the root password and even remove the sudo package it you want.  but the ub default way of doing admin actions is "sudo blah"02:47
navaronegoogle it...i used it in windows as well...big improvement in the newer release02:47
lightbrightnavarone: is phex2.8 similar to Limwewire?02:47
intelikeyN6REJ what error ?02:47
navaronelightbright> it only accesses gnutella02:47
nate1231is this the support channel?02:47
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nate1231for noobs?02:48
lightbrightnavarone: is that good? :P02:48
lightbrightnate1231: im a newbie :)02:48
nate1231yup02:48
nate1231i am02:48
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lightbrightnavarone:  how do i install phex2.8?02:48
intelikeyand N6REJ cat /etc/fstab and give us the line that has that mount point in it.02:48
N6REJhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4890 this is my fstab.. the partition in question is /dev/hda6 it doesn't mount after reboot.  Originally i was labled /usr/local/mysql when I partitioned it but I didn't know that mysql datalibs live in /var/lib/mysql02:48
intelikeyok now what error N6REJ ?02:49
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N6REJmyql doesn't start because /var/lib/mysql isn't right.02:49
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JRlinuxI just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my other computer.  During the installation, I did not see a question of the root password!  Now I cannot operate as SU because it asks for a password that I do not know.02:49
N6REJthere is a /var/lib/mysql w/o /dev/hda6 being mounted ( which I think is wrong ) but thats not where the proper data is.02:49
navaronelightbright> it's like gnutella-gtk...but is a bit simpler to understand and configure. After installing blackdown you dl they zip file and use ark to extract to folder of your choice...I used phex folder in home directory...you then open terminal , cd to phex folder and issue java -jar phex.jar02:50
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lightbrighthow can I make sure ubuntu is using hda2 for swap?02:50
bimberiJRlinux: use "sudo -i" with your own password02:50
nate1231how do I upgrade to breezy?02:50
bimberi!root02:50
ubotu[root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:50
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bimberi!breezy02:50
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:50
nate1231thanks02:50
JRlinuxbimberi, thanks.  I will try that.  Is there any way to learn the mysterious root password?  or to change it?02:51
bimberinp :)02:51
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Greves!sshd02:51
ubotufrom memory, sshd is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto02:51
lightbrightbimberi: how can I make sure ubuntu is using hda2 for swap now as i changed it as it was using hd5 before.02:51
bimberiJRlinux: sudo passwd (to set one)02:51
N6REJintelikey: if I reboot and do not manually mount /dev/hda6, then mysql will not start, /var/lib/mysql exists with the wrong data.  If I then manually mount /dev/hda6 all is well but this seems wrong!02:51
armor98926bimberi: is their anyway to get an upgraded version of Gaim?02:51
devilzhey02:51
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bimberiarmor98926: possibly by compiling it yourself02:52
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devilzcan you tell me is it possible to talk with a microphone somehow02:52
navaronelightbright> when you extract to folder you can go and read the docs...tells you how to set it up02:52
armor98926bimberi: how do i do that02:52
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devilzwith other people02:52
intelikeyN6REJ 'sudo mount  /var/lib/mysql '  does that mount with no error ?02:52
JRlinuxbimberi, I tried that, but it would not accept the one I wanted.02:52
devilzfor eg. my friend on a msn02:52
bimberilightbright: cat /proc/swaps02:52
N6REJintelikey: just umount /dev/hda6 first?02:52
Weng.... Okay, apparently support for this system is just plain poor02:53
intelikeyyeah02:53
WengBecause it also detects and ignores the second CPU02:53
N6REJok, one moment02:53
themachinedoes anyone have an idea how to access the partition from ubuntu?02:53
WengFuckit, /win2k302:53
themachineIm trying to get wine running on some apps02:53
intelikeymay have to kill mysql for it to umount02:53
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lightbrightnavarone:  ok :)02:53
intelikeymay have to kill mysql for it to umount N6REJ02:54
varsendaggerso aout of 547 people her there are no women02:54
KenWeillmy satellite modem was detected on ubuntu 5.10 device manager.. but doesn't seem to work.. what should i do about this?02:54
lightbrightbimberi: it said: /dev/hda2                               partition       747012  55832   -102:54
lightbrightbimberi:  looks good?02:54
ravvIm mounting a share over sshfs, is there any way to make it try ti establish the connection automaticakly periodically? (or as soon as internet connection is up)02:54
bimberiarmor98926: download source from whereever, compile, install02:54
bimberilightbright: yep :)02:54
lightbrightbimberi:  excellent :)02:54
JRlinuxbimberi, But I did not try it with the sudo -i  .... OK, that might do it.02:54
intelikeyvarsendagger this is irc where men are men, and women are men, and children are fbi agents.02:54
armor98926bimberi: do you know a site for that?02:55
N6REJintelikey: yeah thats what I did and it worked fine... want me to try rebooting it first?02:55
navaronelightbright> when set up i would play witht eh bandwidth and number of connection to get a good mix of efficiency and search results02:55
bimberiJRlinux: yes, give that a try :)02:55
lightbrightnavarone:  ok02:55
intelikeyno.02:55
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N6REJk02:55
intelikeyN6REJ it mounts ok with that command ?02:55
N6REJyes02:55
intelikeyk02:55
gimmulfIs there any software for making Flash for linux?02:55
nate1231whats a good irc walkthrough? i need to learn this thing02:55
bimberiarmor98926: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/   i don't have a howto for compiling on ubuntu at hand sorry, perhaps search the wiki02:56
armor98926k02:56
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N6REJ'sudo mount /var/lib/mysql' gets root prompt, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start' "checking for crashed tables"02:56
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themachinehow do you mount a windows partition?02:57
themachinels /dev/hda1 is not showing me anything02:57
intelikeyN6REJ i know it isn't supposed to need it but add auto after defualts in your fstab        defaults,auto   and then try it.02:57
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ravvAny good site with tips and tricks for ubuntu, im looking for the neat stuff that really help but you, the kind of stuff that you can't live without once installed. (Not the guide or blog)02:57
armor98926bimberi: thanx02:57
N6REJk02:57
bimberiarmor98926: np :)02:57
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maxhey02:57
bimberiubotu tell themachine about mountwindows02:57
bimberichaff02:58
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wickedpuppyravv, bash02:58
wickedpuppyi can't live without it ....02:59
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Greves!sudo02:59
ubotusudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:59
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bimberi!cli02:59
ubotuI heard cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org02:59
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intelikeyand N6REJ you may need to make sure that mysql is not trying to start before the mount all command is issued to init.   just a thought.03:00
N6REJintelikey: I've added that umounted /var/lib/mysql, should I delete the /var/lib/mysql folder that is there right now?03:00
N6REJintelikey: how do I check that?03:00
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reikiregarding Flash. I read the wiki. Hard to tell if it's updated for Breezy. currently have flashplayer-mozilla installed. A flash chat app crashes firefox AND epiphany. Do I need to do something different?03:00
intelikeyN6REJ it will have to have an empty folder to mount on.    'well it doesn't have to be empty'03:00
^cougar^Hi all, Who may I talk to about a couple of questions that I got.03:01
N6REJintelikey.. that MIGHT be teh problem!!!03:01
N6REJits not empyt!03:01
intelikey /var/lib/mysql must exist.       it doesn't have to be empty but can be.03:01
N6REJoh ok!..03:01
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N6REJreboot?03:01
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bimberi^cougar^: just ask your questions, hopefully someone can help03:02
nate1231does anyone have any guides to irc chat03:02
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intelikeyyeah watch the startup dialog for anything that fails,  if you have boot splash use [esc]  so you can watch for errors N6REJ03:02
Ophiocuswhat s the command to stop start apache again?03:03
Phuzionapache2 -k start03:03
robotgeekOphiocus: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart03:03
^cougar^Ok, I am running the live CD of Ubuntu, and it does not see any of my hard drives, is this normal on live CD?03:03
nate1231anyone know how to get my wireless card to work.. or should I just not even touch it?03:03
Phuzionnate1231:  Do you have wired ethernet as an alternative?03:04
N6REJintelikey: its mounting "/usr/local/mysql" which is what I told it it would be named when I first installed the server :(03:04
nate1231yes I do03:04
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nate1231im on it now03:04
PhuzionAre you looking to move the computer to a place that wired ethernet can't reach?03:04
lightbright when a person first installs Ubuntu, do they have to pick "boot" from cfdisk for hda?03:04
nate1231lol I get where your going with this03:04
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dooglusI'm new to 'grub'.  What do I need to do after editing grub's menu file?03:05
intelikeyah that is a mysql config error N6REJ,  and i'm no sql'r03:05
nate1231yes I am .. but I can stay where I am also03:05
Phuzionnate1231:  2 reasons to stick with wired:  1)  No chance of people intercepting your connection (unless you're ignorant) and 2) Faster (for the most part)03:05
nuckhi i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i find it there are some packages in the 5.04 install disk that aren't in the 5.10 i.e. emacs... why is that?03:05
^cougar^Ok, I am running the live CD of Ubuntu, and it does not see any of my hard drives, is this normal on live CD?03:05
nate1231I dont really care of my security... or the speed03:06
dooglus^cougar^: run this in a terminal: "sudo mkdir /mnt/win; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win; cd /mnt/win"03:06
Phuzionnate1231:  Would you care if you got accused of hosting child porn?03:06
N6REJintelikey: no, I think the kernel is confused... when I initially partitioned the disk during install, I told it it would be /usr/local/mysql  then I changed that ( or tried too ) when I discovered that mysql data lives at /var/lib/mysql03:06
nate1231well...03:06
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PhuzionIf that would bother you, then I'd suggest caring about security.03:07
nate1231I seriously doubt that would happen03:07
PhuzionAre you on broadband?03:07
nate1231yes03:07
dooglusnate1231: don't doubt it.  it's well possible.03:07
PhuzionIt's possible.03:07
nate1231I didnt say it wasnt possible03:07
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nate1231I have my router setup pretty tight03:07
sethkfor all the people bitching about KDE, I just installed KDE from synaptic and it had not a single hitch03:07
PhuzionMy friend found 25GB of porn on his hard drive once.  Someone put it on his Windows shared folder through his wireless.03:07
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LotsaCaboAnyone got Skype running?03:08
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nate1231I just wanted to use my wireless card03:08
dooglus!gru03:08
ubotudooglus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:08
dooglus!grub03:08
ubotugrub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:08
nuckPhuzion really? is that possible without the guy knowing?03:08
nate1231not argue about hosing kiddie porn03:08
sethkof course, the fonts look awful, but that's true on the other distros too  :)03:08
YkstortWhere can I get ubuntu's human theme for gnome so I can have it on Gentoo?03:08
bimberidooglus: nothing needed after editing menu.lst03:08
nuckhi i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i find it there are some packages in the 5.04 install disk that aren't in the 5.10 i.e. emacs... why is that?03:08
primoturboHey guys what's the command to remount my drives in fstab file?03:08
Hobbseeprimoturbo: sudo mount -a03:08
wickedpuppyprimoturbo, mount -a03:08
primoturbothnx03:09
Phuzionnuck:  Of course, he could also have installed Apache as a background service, got the IP address, and given it out to people.03:09
dooglusbimberi: what if I've introduced a syntax error to the menu.lst?  will I still be able to boot?  is there a syntax checker?03:09
lzybmwow. im not the only person to use Ubuntu ;p03:09
sethklzybm, sure you are.  these are all 'bots03:09
lzybmLMAO03:09
nate1231Phuzion: any help on how t setup my wireless card?\03:09
dooglusbimberi: I usually use lilo.  after editing lilo.conf I run the 'lilo' command and it tells me exactly how much of an idiot I am03:09
Ykstort<Ykstort> Where can I get ubuntu's human theme for gnome so I can have it on Gentoo?03:09
Phuzionnate1231:  Nope, sorry dude...03:09
bimberidooglus: not that i know of,  you can (temporarily) edit commands while booting (hit e on a highlighted line)03:10
sethknate1231, I forgot your original question.  what's going on with the wireless card?03:10
^cougar^The stupid root won't see my password03:10
TokenBadhow handle bz2 files in ubuntu?03:10
nate1231lol well... that sux dude...03:10
nuckanyone else using ubuntu 5.1003:10
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dooglusbimberi: OK, I'll just reboot and see what happens then.  thanks :)03:10
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bimberidooglus: ... which in no way means that there isn't a sanity checker of some sore :)03:10
nate1231sethk: I just wanted to get it to work is all03:10
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lzybmso. all these guys are bots??03:10
sethknate1231, which card?03:10
nucki need some help, i want to use it instead of 5.04 but i find some stuff in 5.04 missing in the 5.10 install cd03:10
sethklzybm, absolutely.03:10
ElsanHow can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...03:10
JRlinuxTotem would not play my mp3 file.  What do I need to do?03:10
lzybmlol. dont wanna sound like a noob, but i am one ;P03:10
nate1231is there a select few that work?03:10
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intelikeyanyone know where the official #gentoo is ?   what server ?03:11
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dooglusTokenBad: "bunzip2" or "tar xf" or "bzcat" or "bzdiff", "bzgrep", etc.  in a terminal, type bz and hit tab a few times.03:11
LotsaCaboI'm running into issues with libqt-mt versus libqt3c102-mt.  Skype requires libqt3c102-mt, but I have another version installed so that I can learn Qt 3.  Anyone know how to get Skye running without replacing the version that is installed already?03:11
sethknate1231, there are quite a few that are known to work.  Your's may be one of them03:11
nate1231ok03:11
Phuzionintelikey:  It's here, just /j #gentoo03:11
^cougar^After I install Ubuntu 5.10, what can I use or get so I can run my previous windows products, like my games and photo editing software, as well as running my nvidia geforce 5500 vid card?03:11
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bimberiLotsaCabo: yes, download Seveas' deb for skype via http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:11
n0dlhow do i open rar files?03:11
sethkLotsaCabo, set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH in a terminal, and run Skype from that terminal03:12
robotgeekYkstort: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/Human.tar.gz03:12
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nate1231wel.. its a zyxel03:12
n0dldoes anyone know how to open rar files?03:12
nate1231sethk: its an ZyXEL G-30203:12
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sethkn0dl, rar is an archiving/compression tool.  you can install it from synaptic03:13
sethknate1231, I haven't played with that one yet.  Does ubuntu see it?03:13
nate1231it sees a wireless connection" card" but thats as far as i know what it see03:13
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intelikeyyeah Phuzion i found it just befor you answered, tanks03:14
primoturbohey dudes quick question, you know in natalius when you surf folders you get buttons for the list structre like usr - bin03:14
wickedpuppyn0dl, unrar -x file.rar i believe .. try it ... either that or just unrar file.rar ... i forgot which one03:14
n0dlsethk: whats the package called?03:14
nuckis there a command to print the partition and what's allocated in that partition? thanks03:14
primoturbohow do I make it text based03:14
primoturboso I can write in the location03:14
robotgeeknuck: sudo fdisk -l03:14
primoturboinstead of pressing buttons03:14
N6REJintelikey: what should the label type be?  right now its dos!03:14
nuckrobotgeek thx03:14
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sethkn0dl, I'm not sure, use the search function, it finds it03:14
primoturbolike in browsers the url area is not button based03:14
primoturbobut you can type stuff in03:15
JRlinuxApparently I need an mp3 decoder.  How do I get one?03:15
intelikeyN6REJ im not a mysql user, you need to ask someone that is.  sorry.03:15
bimberi^cougar^: you can try running them with wine, or better to look for linux equivalents (eg. gimp for photo editing)03:15
joe_hi, can ubuntu on master HD boot windows on slave HD?03:15
sethknate1231, that's all you ever see until you do something with it03:15
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griffin_is this a forum for ubuntu rookies to ask questions? Or is there a more specific room for that03:15
bimberiubotu tell ^cougar^ about nvidia03:15
N6REJintelikey: this is not about mysql at this point... this is about parted03:15
_jasonprimoturbo, ctrl+l (the letter L)03:15
bimberigriffin_: ask away :)03:15
sethknate1231, click on it and configure it03:15
nate1231sethk: hmm.. whhats the next step then? I have already tried to configure it03:15
bimberiubotu tell JRlinux about mp303:15
intelikeylabel can be anything you like as far as i know. N6REJ03:16
joe_hi, can ubuntu on master HD boot windows on slave HD?03:16
sethknate1231, why do you say "tried"?  didn't it configure?03:16
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N6REJintelikey: hmmmmm....03:16
primoturbo_jason: thanks but how do I make it permenant03:16
N6REJintelikey: something stinks!03:16
nate1231sethk: tried "configured" no connection to the router.. im not connected to the internet03:16
nate1231sethk: router settings are correct.03:16
_jasonprimoturbo, that i don't know03:16
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sethknate1231, did you see your wireless network in the dropdown box?03:17
ShadyRevolutionI need help, I finally got the Ubuntu 5.10 in the mail, and I put the live mac disk in my old G3 Imac, it was working fine but towards the end of the setup the screen went black and never came back on.  The cd drive is still moving and making noises, I have waited half and hour and it still isn't doing anything.03:17
intelikeyif that partition is going to be used exclusively for sql call it mysql  or something.     a partition label, is just that a label.03:17
LotsaCaboNo way.  There is absolutely no way that Skype installed that fast.03:17
JRlinuxubotu help mp303:17
armor98926bimbie: how do i install gaim-w03:17
primoturboDoes anyone know how to get the browser in natilus instead of having to press ctrl + l ?03:17
primoturbothanks03:17
nate1231sethk: Negative I had to create my network essid03:17
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sethknate1231, then it isn't really working03:18
griffin_I am trying to install my Lexmark z600 (connected by USB). Ubuntu finds the printer, but wants to install it as the Z11. I downloaded drivers from Lexmark, but they came in a shell file, not the ppd file that ubuntu wants to use. I am curious what a good solution would be?03:18
nate1231sethk: correct03:18
nate1231thats my problem03:18
bimberiarmor98926: no idea sorry (bimbie, sheesh! :P)03:18
armor98926bimberi: sorry03:18
JRlinuxbimberi,  ubotu is ignoring me, it seems03:18
sethknate1231, that's not a good situation, where it is seen, but not working.03:18
bimberi!mp303:18
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:18
mgcrossany else have Enemy Territory crash only when starting a server...driving me crazy looking for a fix...get signal 1103:18
nate1231sethk: lol03:18
bimberiJRlinux: there you go ^^^^03:18
sethknate1231, I would google for driver updates03:18
nate1231hmm03:18
JRlinux! mp303:18
ubotuhmm... mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:18
armor98926bimberi: i found the site but i dont understand the directions can you help me?03:18
nate1231sethk: I dont think this cards supported03:19
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ShadyRevolutioncan anyone helo me?03:19
sethknate1231, it would certainly make your life easier to use a card that works out of the box03:19
ShadyRevolutionhelp me?03:19
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nate1231sethk: = no linux drivers... I think its installed itself on some other drivers03:19
sethknate1231, I have gotten them to work, but it takes hours.  and hours.  and ...03:19
sethknate1231, that's possible03:19
armor98926bimberi: if so here is the site http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html03:19
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nate1231thats why i asked what cards are supported.,03:19
joe_i would like to see if there's a way to dual boot from ubuntu on master HD to windows on slave HD, anyone?03:20
nate1231I wasnt sure... what I could get03:20
bimberiarmor98926: no sorry, i have to go and do some (paid) work :)03:20
LootBeercan someone help me install my macan someone help me install my master boot loader on my hda.. seems the hda now cannot boot at all.. i screwed up my lilo, contents of hdd is there thoughster boot loader on my hda.. seems the hda now cannot boot at all.. i screwed up my lilo, contents of hdd is there though03:21
griffin_joe_ install windows on the master, then swtich the jumper to slave and install the second HDD with jumpers to master and install ubuntu03:21
ShadyRevolutioncan anyone help me get ubuntu working on my old G3 imac?03:21
armor98926bimberi: alright thanx anyway03:21
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bimberiarmor98926: although, do a search on ubuntuforums.org for gaim-vv, you might get some guidance there03:21
CoweatarShadyRevolution: you tried hitting a key?03:21
armor98926k03:22
armor98926thanx03:22
griffin_anybody good with lexmark printer installs?03:22
ShadyRevolutionyeah, nothing happens03:22
joe_i see wat u mean griffin_03:22
joe_hehehe03:22
CoweatarShadyRevolution: what if you do ctrl-alt-f2?03:22
JRlinuxbimberi, thanks for your help.  You have been a busy guy.03:22
thewayofzen*PROBLEM* azureus has always shown in the system tray.  i did a fresh BREEZY install today.. and have it configured to minimize to tray as well as close to tray as always.. and NO icon in tray.. ANYONE able to help?03:22
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^cougar^lmao, this is not going to be easy, is it03:22
ShadyRevolutionCoweatar as far as I can tell nothing changes03:22
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bimberiJRlinux: yeah, lots of things i knew about during this "session" :)03:22
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nate1231sethk ?03:23
wickedpuppythewayofzen, i thought by default azureus goes to tray on minimise ??03:23
shmittubuntuhullo03:23
sethknate1231, sorry, I was doing something.  what did you ask?03:23
nate1231nothing03:23
thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  me too thats the problem03:23
noob_anyone experienced with ubuntu lite?03:23
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nate1231I just wanted to know if you knew a good irc guide03:23
ravvAny good site with tips and tricks for ubuntu, im looking for the neat stuff that really help but you, the kind of stuff that you can't live without once installed. (Not the guide or blog)03:23
shmittubuntuanyone know of a good dock app for breezy03:23
nate1231I want to goto a diffrent channel but dknow know how03:23
wickedpuppythewayofzen, i don't remember having to configure that part03:23
sethknate1231, the freenode web page shows two good ones03:24
wickedpuppynate1231, /join #channelname03:24
noob_ravv: check out the unofficial add-on CD03:24
thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  thats why i dont understand whats up03:24
intelikeygriffin_ joe_ it's easier than that on some boxes,  the bios setting let you select which drive to boot form,  boot from the second install win boot from the first install lin  tada03:24
nate1231ok03:24
wickedpuppythewayofzen, did it crashed or did it just not go to tray ...03:24
thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  just not to tray03:24
ShadyRevolutionCoweatar: I have tried rebooting the mac three times but it doesn't want to initialize the monitor after it makes the sounds like it is working.03:24
thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  clean install of both03:24
joe_hey griffin_, i have an image of my c: drive where i use to have windows n now i have ubuntu, can i burn my c: drive image to my second HD d: and do u think it will work?03:24
DjKriticalAnyone know of a ubuntu application good for personal financing?03:24
TokenBadon the wiki page...is there info on how to mount hard drives?03:25
wickedpuppythewayofzen, you also installed java too right ? obvious but gotta check03:25
thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  correct03:25
nate1231wickedpuppy: but how do i get to this though? irc://irc.osx86project.org/03:25
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wickedpuppythewayofzen, try dmesg ....03:25
CoweatarShadyRevolution: so it shows nothing the whole boot process?03:25
thewayofzenwickedpuppy, ok you lost me now03:25
ShadyRevolutionNo it show through most of it.03:25
wickedpuppynate1231, try /server servername:port03:25
nate1231ok i will try...03:26
nate1231thanks03:26
ShadyRevolutionCoweatar: it even gets to the part where it shows the Ubuntu logo, but after that it just goes black and spins the cd03:26
griffin__joe, sorry thats way outta my leauge.  I am not sure wether your image would have the boot record and other such things needed to succesfully boot03:26
wickedpuppythewayofzen, oh just not to tray ... eh ah. .. hmms .. re download and try ?03:26
intelikeyyep joe_  if the drives are the same size  just dd if=image of=/dev/hdb03:26
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thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  doing now03:26
wickedpuppythewayofzen, azureus has its own channel #azureus-users03:26
thewayofzenwickedpuppy,  will go next :)03:26
bimberiarmor98926: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html  (right - definitely back to work now)03:26
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intelikeyjoe_ if they are different capicity that don't work near so well.03:27
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seth_slackwarehello again03:27
shmittubuntugood app dock for ubuntu?03:27
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CoweatarShadyRevolution: sounds like the refresh rate is off in the xorg config03:28
seth_slackwarethat show ubuntu has lame http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/lame03:28
griffin_is there a file where printer drivers are stored?03:28
seth_slackwareapt-get install lame, shows none03:28
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^cougar^I didn't know Linux was so complicated, none fo my HD's are seen, gotta find the right Linux based driver for my vid card, and all the programs I like to use like Adobe Photoshop03:28
CoweatarShadyRevolution: dunno how you could fix that with the livecd03:28
intelikeyjoe_ what you can do with an image of a drive of another size is mount it and cp all its content to the new partition.03:28
ShadyRevolutionCoweatar: me neither03:28
sethkseth_slackware, it's pissed because you called it lame03:28
nuckhey can i anyone help me out? why are there some packages missing in ubuntu 5.10 install disk?03:28
seth_slackwaresethk: lol03:29
brdwebhi all, i'm having an issue with my wireless. My hardware driver is installed, wlan0 interface comes up, I get DHCP settings from the router just fine, but then I can't actually get anywhere, to include pinging the router03:29
joe_intelikey, ok, lets say i got the c: image to d: now so wat do i do next, sorry im new to linux03:29
nucki got the official install disk distributed by ubuntu not an image i downloaded off the web03:29
CoweatarShadyRevolution: i usually have to change the config after the auto configuration, but i guess you're kind of screwed with the livecd03:29
robotgeekbrdweb: can u check you 'dmesg' output and see if your packets are being blocked?03:29
sethknuck, no wonder it didn't work03:29
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intelikeyjoe_ can you clearify ' lets say i got the c: image to d: ' for me ?03:30
ShadyRevolutionCoweatar: oh well I'll try a live cd on my pc instead,  Thanks for your help.03:30
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joe_i wanna get this working cuz abuntu looks nice n i like the idea that it updates like windows hehehe03:30
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nucksethk what do you mean? thanks03:30
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shmittubuntuwut display managers will work on ubuntu, sorry n00b question03:30
sethknuck, just teasing, nothing really  :)03:30
daddiushey what kernel does 5.10 use?03:30
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sethkshmittubuntu, gdm, xdm, kdm03:30
dsl_is there anyone who could tell me how to reinstall grub when i have /boot/grub intact? :P03:31
shmittubuntuugg i hate xdm03:31
intelikeyjoe_ can you clearify ' lets say i got the c: image to d: ' for me ????03:31
shmittubuntueverythings wierd and i didnt even take any time to get use to it03:31
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sethkshmittubuntu, I didn't say you have to use it, I said it is supported  :)03:31
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shmittubuntuyea i kno03:31
nucksethk you bastard :-)03:31
brdwebrobotgeek: it looks like it's sending packets to the DNS servers when i look at dmesg03:32
buddy--How do i turn the telnet server on on my ubuntu box?03:32
joe_intelikey, i would like to boot from ubuntu on c: drive to windows on d: drive, griffin told me to install windows on c: drive change jumpers to from master to slave then install ubuntu on master drive.......03:32
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brdwebrobotgeek: how do I check to see what gateway DHCP gave me?03:32
^cougar^If I was to fully install this linux operating system, will the installer see all of my drives and media?03:32
nuckelp!h03:32
intelikeyyes joe_ that will work.03:32
shmittubuntu^cougar^ yes while its installing it says detecting drives03:33
nuckintelikey do you use the 5.10 ubuntu version?03:33
intelikeyjoe_ no i don't use ubuntu03:33
joe_intelikey, ok, after i boot it there anything else i need to configure03:34
dsl_is there anyone who could tell me how to reinstall grub when i have /boot/grub intact? :P03:34
^cougar^ok, I hope I can save the files and folders that I want to keep as well as my previous windows applications03:34
joe_ohh ok,  wat do u use?03:34
intelikeysorry s/joe/nuck/  ^03:34
LotsaCaboMy buffer already flushed my history, but thanks to whomever it was that gave me the link to grab Skype.  I'm up and running.03:34
intelikeymdk03:34
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blankyhello03:35
SimpleIRCbye!03:35
blankyscare him, haha03:35
intelikeyjoe_ no it should all be automatic after the changing of the jumpers.03:35
JRlinuxComputer has hda and hdb.  hda has WinME and Debian; I installed Ubuntu on hdb,  thinking that grub would still give me choice of the other two OS-- Nope, Debian has disappeared from the boot menu.03:35
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joe_really, thats nice hehehe03:35
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joshuaxlsI am having a big problem trying to compile ndiswrapper 1.5 on a new Ubuntu install03:36
JRlinuxNot funny, joe_03:36
brdwebrobotgeek: any ideas?03:36
blankyguys k3b wont close, I've clicked close countless times03:36
blankyis there a way to force kill it03:36
joe_i rembered something that made me laugh :)03:36
NoUseblanky, open a terminal and run xkill, then click on the k3b window03:37
MarcNNoUse: or open a terminal and      killall -9 k3b03:37
kbrooksbed03:37
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joe_intelikey, thaks for the help03:37
blankythanks!03:37
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shmittubuntusethk whatabout aurora dm?03:38
JRlinuxI guess it is time to re-install Debian-- and hope that Ubuntu stays.  Sheesh.03:38
joshuaxlsHas anyone compiled ndiswrapper before on an Ubuntu machine?03:38
Creamier_OakJRlinux: or just add to your /boot/grub/menu.lst the other entries...03:38
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intelikeyJRlinux so boot ub mount the partition that has deb on it and get the line from the debian's /boot/grub/menu.lst that contains the debian listing and add it to the ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst    viola you boot all three.03:39
nuckno one here using 5.10? unbelievable :-(03:39
intelikeyjoe_ np :)03:39
NoUsenuck, do you have a question?03:39
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robotgeekbrdweb: sorry was away, gimme a moment03:39
JRlinuxCreamier_Oak,  intelikey , copying down those instructions...03:39
nuckyes ive just installed 5.10 over the 5.04 but some of the [ackaages like emacs are missing from the 5.10 install disk03:39
joe_take care im out to do some twicking :), c-ya03:40
Creamier_Oaknuck: sudo apt-get install emacs?03:40
NoUsenuck, just apt-get get them or use synaptic03:40
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nuckyes i use synaptic i search it from synaptic under "All" but it doesnt show up03:40
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NoUsenuck, emacs21 is the package name03:41
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nuckCreamier_Oak NoUse then i browsed the 5.10 install cd and theres no emacs under "/pool/.../e"03:41
JRlinuxmenu.lst, eh?  I did make a copy of it on my flash disk before installation.  And now I just add one line to the ubuntu menu.lst?  I will surely try it, thanks!03:41
robotgeekbrdweb: does it say stuff like blocked?03:42
NoUsenuck, they probably don't put emacs on the CD, use synaptic03:42
n0dldoes anyone here know a good MTA?03:42
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dooglusgrub fans:  how can I remove the "memtest" and the "safe mode" ubuntu entries from the boot menu?03:42
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Creamier_Oakdooglus: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:42
unixxdoes anybody know how i can install mepis that was burnt as unbootable???03:42
Creamier_Oakdooglus: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.list03:43
dooglusCreamier_Oak: with '03:43
JRlinuxdooglus, I am guessing from what the experts are telling me... by commening out... yeah03:43
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dooglusCreamier_Oak: with hash/pound signs?  I did that.  They came back.03:43
Creamier_Oakdooglus: your text editor of choice, you'll need to use sudo03:43
NoUseunixx, you may want to ask in #mepis03:43
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nuckNoUse yes i use synaptic add the web repository in synaptic right?03:43
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nuckNoUse yes i use synaptic you mean add the web repository in synaptic right?03:43
unixxNoUse ok03:43
geno_How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...03:43
JRlinuxunixx, I had to copy over TWICE the install disk that Ubuntu sent to me.  the second copy worked, but not the original nor the first try.03:44
brdwebrobotgeek: nope, nothing blocked03:44
dooglusCreamier_Oak: I put # in front of the lines.  but the #'s have gone now that I've rebooted...  and the entries appeared in the menu03:44
n0dlDoes anyone know of a good MTA that is not Sndmail>03:44
n0dl?03:44
Knowerrors!metabar03:44
JRlinuxtry=copy03:44
ubotuKnowerrors: Wish i knew03:44
Creamier_Oakdooglus: stupid question, but did you save it first?03:44
dooglusCreamier_Oak: twice.03:44
robotgeekbrdweb: hmm, no clue then03:44
dooglusCreamier_Oak: and rebooted twice.03:44
Creamier_Oakdooglus: post your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin?03:44
brdwebrobotgeek: thanks anyway, i'm going to try and see if disabling ipv6 does the trick03:44
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NoUsenuck, emacs is in the default repos, you don't need to add any03:45
NoUsenuck, sudo apt-get install emacs2103:45
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jaredhi03:45
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dooglusHobbsee: after I edit it, or after I reboot?03:45
dooglusHobbsee: 'cos it changes when I reboot03:45
Hobbseedooglus: hmmm...it shouldnt change after you reboot, i didnt think03:46
JRlinuxThe first line in /boot/grub/menu.lst is the first to be listed on the boot menu?  So put my favorite OS at the top?03:46
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dooglusHobbsee: I'll reboot again and see...03:47
Hobbseeok03:47
dooglusHobbsee: I've made a copy of the file, so I can be sure if it changes.03:47
sethkJRlinux, yes, but you can make any one of them the default03:47
Hobbseedooglus: good idea03:47
boodleanyone get firefox 1.5rc2 working that just went into dapper03:47
sethkJRlinux, but yes, that's how you make it appear first in the list03:48
Hobbseeboodle: yeah, was working here - sudo apt-get install firefox mozilla-firefox03:48
JRlinuxsethk  ... the default?  How do you do that?03:48
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intelikeyJRlinux 'man grub'03:48
boodleHobbsee, heh dindna see the moz-firefox pkg still. tyvm!03:48
sethkJRlinux, there is usually a line in the file,     default 0           or   default 1        or whatever03:49
Hobbseeboodle: tyvm?03:49
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sethkJRlinux, default 0 means the first choice is the default, default 1 means the second is the default, etc.03:49
boodlethankyouverymuch03:49
neoplasticityhello03:49
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neoplasticityanyone here using ubuntu ppc?03:49
JRlinuxsethk, ok, and thanks!03:49
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JRlinuxintelikey, someday I will learn the man language.  I keep working at it, but still lousy at it.  Thanks, anyway!03:50
blankyhey guys, do I need a setting in my xorg.conf so windows dont lag, someone in #kde told me about renderaccel = true, should I set that?03:50
wickedpuppyJRlinux, its in menu.lst ... no need man03:50
intelikeyJRlinux man man   ?03:50
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JRlinuxlol, OK.  Thanks, guys03:51
wickedpuppythe explaination for using default boot option is explained in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...03:51
JRlinuxThanks wickedpuppy03:51
wickedpuppyblah ... you should have found it out yourself ... :P03:52
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JRlinuxlol03:52
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blankyhey guys do I need a setting in xorg.conf enabled to make my windows not lag when I drag them on top of other windows (especially things like openoffice or firefox), I have my drivers installed and they're working03:53
intelikeywickedpuppy there are no comments in my menu.lst   :)03:53
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Villanick PorcupineTree03:53
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PorcupineTreehi03:53
dooglusHobbsee: aah - I see what's happening...  it's when I run "sudo update-grub" that it undoes my changes.  I'll stop running that!  :)03:53
johnpHello03:53
PorcupineTreedoes anyon here use dosbox03:53
Hobbseedooglus: hehe....that might help, yes03:53
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doogluswhat do I need to do to a new install to get the security updates?03:54
blankyguys should I set 'Option"RenderAccel""yes"# hardware Render acceleration' in my xorg.conf03:54
eternalistwheres the startup script for ubuntu?03:54
eternalisti need to have a certain thing happen everytime i boot up03:54
gimmulf2How do i make flash from linux?03:54
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durtblanky find an option and choose not to display the window contents when moving (im in xfce, so i dont know about gnome)03:54
eternalistwhile true; do ./dont.sh | sudo nc -v -l -p 23; done   <-  i want that line to start everytime i boot up03:54
doogluseternalist: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:54
Comrade_Vladimirdoes anyone one know why my audio files say You have the correct output plugin selected. when i try to open them03:55
intelikeyeternalist /etc/inittab tells init what script to run first.03:55
Hobbseedooglus: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade?03:55
blankydurt: but it's not that my pc is slow, it's frickin fast (vid card, proc, mem, etc.), it's something else I bet03:55
doogluseternalist: save some bytes: "while :" instead of "while true"03:55
eternalistwhile alone works?03:55
ljlargh03:55
dooglusHobbsee: it came with no network sources enabled03:55
ljlfor(;;);03:56
Hobbsee!tell dooglus about repos03:56
intelikeyeternalist the scripts in /etc/rcS.d/ run each boot up03:56
dooglus!sources.list03:56
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:56
durteternalist: you can make your own script (/etc/init.d/script.sh), then run update-rc.d script.sh defaults03:56
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odyssey!tell odyssey about ubuntu03:57
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durtblanky, no ubuntu is just slow - i have half a gig of ram and its still pretty unresponsive03:57
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eternalistdurt, the problem is it requires me to be root03:58
MAXneed help03:58
MAXplease03:58
durteternalist, what does?03:58
eternalistdurt, so if i put sudo, itll prompt me for a password during boot up or what?03:58
Comrade_Vladimirbut they dont platy03:58
eternalistdurt, to run nc on port 2303:58
blankythat sucks that ubuntu is slow, and I thought it was fast03:58
Agrajageternalist: init scripts run as root03:58
eternalistAgrajag, oh thanks03:58
MAXlike... my processor is socket 775 that means he is a 64bits processor03:58
durteternalist, it will be run as root, you dont need any sudos in the script03:58
intelikeyeternalist the startup scripts run as root.03:58
MAXbut to ubuntu only have intel x8603:59
durtoops too late03:59
varsendaggerhey i changed my modprobe and now my sound won't work for something else03:59
Comrade_Vladimiractually it sayst:1. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.03:59
MadpilotMAX: there's an AMD64 version of Ubuntu - the 32bit version will run too03:59
wickedpuppyMAX, you downloaded the 64 bit ubuntu install cd right ?03:59
Comrade_Vladimirplease check that...03:59
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Madpilotblanky: Ubuntu is faster on this machine than XP ever was (AMD 2500+ CPU, 1Gb RAM...)04:00
cin_I downloaded Icon themes from Gnomelook.com how do I use them? I just downloaded them and a window opened displaying the file.04:00
MAXno i have an INTEL processor04:00
eternalistHow would i go about removing it, is there a method just like the update-rc.d command?04:00
eternalistjust delete it and do update-rc.d?04:00
MadpilotMAX: intel 64? Itanitum?04:00
MAXsocket 775. but to intel ubuntu only gots intelx8604:00
AgrajagMAX: it's the same thing04:00
dooglusHobbsee: I think I see what happened...  I use an encrypted WPA wireless access point.  The installer didn't know the WPA key, so it thought I had no network access.  As a result it probably decided not to set me up to receive security updates!  Seems dangerous to me!  :)04:00
Agrajagthe x86-64 CD is for AMD Athlon 64 or Intel Pentoium 4 with EMT6404:01
Agrajager, Pentium04:01
MAXhmm04:01
Agrajagbut the 32-bit x86 CD will also work04:01
MadpilotMAX: if it's a 32bit system, the x86 Ubuntu should run on it04:01
Comrade_Vladimiri figure its just not having the win32 codecs in right... but thats just me04:01
Agrajagand will be less of a pain to set up for some things04:01
intelikeyeternalist you can edit the script as needed without any other command but yes delete the script and update04:01
MAXhmm04:01
dooglus!w32codecs04:01
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/04:01
MAXi can't install linux04:01
MAXand a frind of mine told me that's the reason04:02
cin_Does anyone know how I can make my own GNOME themes? Or download premade themes, with a tutorial on how to use them.04:02
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durteternalist: update-rc.d script.sh remove04:02
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dooglus!libcss204:02
ubotuNo idea, dooglus04:02
dooglus!dvd04:02
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:02
MAXbecause i had install it but i can't get linux in graphic way04:02
eternalistThank you everyone, i appreciate it04:03
eternalist:)04:03
dooglusdoh.  what's the name of the package which installs the DVD decrpyer hingy?04:03
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Comrade_Vladimirdooglus u know of win3204:03
eternalistdefinitly friendlier than the debian group04:03
wickedpuppyMAX, there is live cd ...04:03
dooglusComrade_Vladimir: I am aware of it.04:03
Hobbseedooglus: yeah, just a bit!04:03
atrophicyay, my ubuntu cds came in the mail today and I've already given away 5/1504:03
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sethketernalist, a cemetary is friendlier than the debian group04:03
wickedpuppyMAX, i got a friend who says i can't use windows cause it will make you stupid04:03
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Comrade_Vladimirdooglus so do u know what my problem is04:03
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dooglusthere's a kernel update for breezy already?  what was that for?04:04
MAXwickedpuppy lol it's true04:04
MAXlol04:04
dooglusComrade_Vladimir: I didn't see yourproblem, no.04:04
dooglusComrade_Vladimir: my problem is that my spacebar sucks04:04
Hobbsee_awaydooglus: ubuntuforums.org - it has an annoucement under "announcements"04:04
intelikey!codecs04:05
ubotusomebody said codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/04:05
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Comrade_Vladimirdooglus it says  lease check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.04:05
Comrade_Vladimirwhen i get on04:05
siganyone know of a program that I can make a slide show on cd/dvd and add music with in linux?04:05
wickedpuppyMAX, try the live cd and come back if it screws up .. btw you aren't the first one to run linux on 64 bit intel ... intel probably did it first04:05
Comrade_Vladimirto a mp3 file04:05
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dooglusHobbsee_away: did you read that list of kernel holes?  puts Windows to shame! ;)04:08
odysseyhi, how can i hide desktop icons such as the trash can etc04:08
ubuntu_newbiei am trying to instal ubuntu, but my cd is corrupted :-( the live cd works fine. Is there anyway i can instal ubuntu from live cd?04:08
dooglusodyssey: I stopped nautilus running altogether.  that got rid of the desktop icons and freed up a bunch of memory.  It's in the session editor.04:08
TokenBadhow uncompress b25 files?04:08
wickedpuppyubuntu_newbie, what prevents you from redownloading or reburning it again ?04:08
dooglusubuntu_newbie: I don't think so.04:09
TokenBadbz504:09
TokenBadeven04:09
dooglusTokenBad: bunzip204:09
wickedpuppyTokenBad, bz2 ...04:09
ubuntu_newbiei dont have a cd burner here... and the internet connection is slow04:09
wickedpuppyubuntu_newbie, then how you got it ?04:09
odysseydooglus, thanks04:09
ubuntu_newbiei am on a holiday now and brought these cd's with me04:09
TokenBadget that with apt or download it?04:09
doogluswhy is this happened when I go to upgrade?  The following packages have been kept back:04:10
Comrade_Vladimiraomeone run me through win32 codecs04:10
dooglus  linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38604:10
wickedpuppyubuntu_newbie, then have a nice holiday!!! forget about linux or windows ...04:10
ubuntu_newbie:(04:10
wickedpuppyTokenBad, its in apt-get .. of course04:10
TokenBadhmm04:10
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wickedpuppyno need to ask just do it04:10
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TokenBadjust tried apt-get install bunzip204:10
ubuntu_newbiei use windows at work... wanted to try linux ...04:10
Agrajagbzip204:10
intelikeyi wish some would tell me how to make this thing stop resetting the kbdrate  every two minutes........04:11
TokenBadok says already have it installed04:11
ubuntu_newbiei installed debian... but dont know how to work with it.... i go until the command prompt :(04:11
Agrajagthen you should already have bunzip204:11
fredforfaenis there a way to get the install cd to install the i686 kernel ?04:11
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che_wickedelo04:11
che_wickedguys need help04:11
wickedpuppyubuntu_newbie, really ... you expect to be running linux full speed just as much as windows after a few days of usage ?04:11
dooglusto answer my own question:  I needed to "apt-get dist-upgrade" not just "apt-get upgrade"04:12
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ubuntu_newbiewickedpuppy, i just want linux running.... no question of speed.04:12
wickedpuppyfredforfaen, i don't think it comes with multiple kernels04:12
dooglusTokenBad: bunzip2 doesn't start with bz, unlike the other bz2 programs04:12
Comrade_Vladimirits a pain in the ass04:12
ubuntu_newbiein fact i am running ubuntu on live cd...04:12
fredforfaenwickedpuppy hmm04:12
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ubuntu_newbiebut want to instal it04:12
wickedpuppyubuntu_newbie, speed as in your speed ... not the speed of the com ...04:12
dooglusfredforfaen: I don't think so.  you can insall it after.04:13
wickedpuppyubuntu_newbie, if you just want it running ... live cd04:13
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intelikeyubuntu_newbie being brand new to the linux world, no you probably can not install from the live cd without lots of help.    but if you were an old had at linux i'd say just make a ext3 partition and cp all the files over then reboot and dpkg-setup  or something like would work......04:13
Cartesian1984i would like to get a bigger usb drive and install ubuntu on it, think thats possible?04:13
intelikeyhad/hand04:13
dooglusintelikey: I don't think the live cd has enough packages on it, does it?04:13
durthow would i go about turning the free space on my root partition (/dev/hda1) into another partion on which i can install another os?04:13
ubuntu_newbieoh ok...04:13
Comrade_Vladimirso whats holdin this back    when i try to load an mp3 file it opens bmp and says Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. in a error message04:14
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intelikeydooglus all you need is a linux console and the dpkg package manager isn't it.....04:14
Scythewhat is the current version of the latest mozilla release?04:14
dooglusdurt: 1) boot from cd, so root partition isn't mounted; 2) resize root filesystem 3) use dpkg to resize root filesystem's partition 4) make new partition with fdisk04:15
intelikeyfrom there you can wget anything else you need even on a slowdem04:15
dooglus5) makenew filesystem in new partition with mkfs or some such04:15
chasmarangIn System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive04:15
dooglusintelikey: I guess so.04:15
dooglusintelikey: debbootstrap would be handy though.04:15
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intelikeyyeah well it is probably on the live04:16
intelikeyi havent checked04:16
durtthanks dooglus04:16
intelikeyi've only booted the live like 2/3 times04:16
PorcupineTreedosbox is neat04:16
PorcupineTreeI am installing simcity 2000 as a test04:16
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Comrade_Vladimirso whats holdin this back    when i try to load an mp3 file it opens bmp and says Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. in a error message04:17
wickedpuppyComrade_Vladimir, you installed the codecs .. of course ?04:17
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intelikeyif i could get this box to stop reseting the kbdrate every two minutes i would probably install ub again,  that is the reason i ditched it last time.     mmmmm and the time before i think.....04:18
dooglusComrade_Vladimir:04:18
Comrade_Vladimirwickedpuppy yea i dont think theyre workin04:18
wickedpuppyComrade_Vladimir, if you installed the right ones they are ... i am listening to westlife atm04:18
nuckanyone using ubuntu 5.10?04:18
che_wickedguys why i cant log in to my desktop04:18
Comrade_Vladimiri tried to reilstallthem in synaptic and it dissapeered04:18
nucki need to ask some question re: 5.1004:18
PorcupineTreeanyone here use GMX?04:19
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wickedpuppynuck, pls stop asking if people using 5.10 ... assumed we are04:19
Comrade_Vladimirthey told me id have better luck here04:19
nucki find some of the packages are missing in the install disk as compared to the install disk of 5.0404:19
nucklike emacs04:19
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wickedpuppynuck, then use apt-get to get them .. i am sure people told ya already ... sudo apt-get install emacs2104:19
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_jasonnuck, emacs21 is the name of the package for emacs, enable universe/multiverse repos04:20
dooglusor xemacs04:20
Comrade_Vladimiri did it through the inter net according to _jason04:20
nuckwickedpuppy is there a way to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without wiping all that have been installed previously including thrid-party apps?04:20
che_wickedanyone knows these errors04:20
che_wicked~/.xsession-errors file04:20
Comrade_Vladimirwho is currently offline04:20
NoUse!tell nuck about breezy04:20
nuck_jason yes its not there at all04:20
wickedpuppynuck, dist-upgrade will upgrade the apps04:20
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, has a problem with esd, even though he has it set to start up a ps aux | grep esd returns nothing.  Maybe someone can help him.04:21
NoUsenuck, emacs is in the repos use apt-get or synaptic04:21
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wickedpuppynuck,04:21
_jason!info emacs2104:21
ubotuemacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB04:21
Comrade_Vladimirhey u are on04:21
nuckwickedpuppy why?04:21
wickedpuppybilly@wicked1:~$ apt-cache search emacs2104:21
wickedpuppyemacs21-bin-common - The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent files04:21
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wickedpuppyhere .. there you go04:21
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Comrade_Vladimir_jason why does nt it show u04:21
ficusplanetHey.  Does anyone know how to change the font of a "FontWork" graphic in OpenOffice?04:21
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, what do you mean?04:22
che_wickedhow to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?04:22
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nuckwill the dist-upgrade command not muck up all non-standard apps i have installed? thanks04:22
Comrade_Vladimiroh nevermind04:22
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, oh i was away and didn't notice :D04:22
NoUsenuck, did you read the link ubotu sent you? it shows how to upgrade to breezy04:22
Comrade_Vladimirok so refer me away!04:22
wickedpuppynuck, if non-standard apps depends on particular lib .. then they might ...04:22
che_wickedhow to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?04:23
intelikeyNoUse are you reading nuck's question ?04:23
NoUseintelikey, yeah I helped him earlier04:23
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Comrade_Vladimirso who knows about esd04:23
nuckno worries i'll try out the things you've suggested thanks04:23
wickedpuppyyah i thought the case was closed ...04:24
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chasmarangIn System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive04:24
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_jasonComrade_Vladimir, try: dpkg-reconfigure esound04:24
ficusplanetHey.  Does anyone know how to change the font of a "FontWork" graphic in OpenOffice?04:25
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unixxdoes anybody know how i can dual boot xp and ubuntu?04:25
Godyeah04:25
GodWhen you install them it gives you the option04:25
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Comrade_Vladimirroot@ubuntu:/home/andrew # dpkg-reconfigure esound04:25
Comrade_Vladimirroot@ubuntu:/home/andrew #04:25
_jasonubotu, tell unixx about dualboot04:25
GodLike I had XP before and when I installed Ubuntu it asked if I wanted to dual boot04:25
Comrade_Vladimirnothin04:25
Comrade_Vladimirhad to be in root too04:26
unixxok so i have xp installed first, then do i click on manually edit the partition table?04:26
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chasmarangGod: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive04:26
TokenBadhmm04:26
jayson_Iwhat's up dude!04:26
TokenBadI installed java on my system..but when go to site that uses java..it not load04:26
Comrade_Vladimirhey now i cant say oh my god anymore04:26
Godchasmarang, Mine was mounted when I booted Ubuntu for the first time.04:26
unixxlol04:26
jayson_Ii've receive already the ubuntu CD i ordered. :)04:27
bimberichasmarang: is it a windows drive?04:27
TokenBadany idea why?04:27
doogluswhen I play movies, they are incredibly jumpy.  if I switch to OSS instead of ALSA, they're OK.  is it possible to get ALSA to work?04:27
Godchasmarang, You could try mounting hda or hda1, hda2, etc.04:27
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dooglusmplayer says stuff like "alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.105 msecs. resetting stream3.1% 7 0 7%" over and over04:27
jayson_Ii already distribute it to my friends they luv to use ubuntu.04:27
TokenBadI got my cd's yesterday04:27
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chasmarangIn System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive04:27
PhoulIs there anyway to get E17 for ubuntu?04:27
TokenBadgoing to put them in my docs office and a couple other offices next week04:28
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unixxi got my cd's yesterday too, i installed breezy over hoary, and i gave my friends sum cd's too, get rid of windows04:28
Comrade_Vladimir_jason was that supposed to work04:28
NoUse!tell Phoul about e1704:28
TokenBadunixx, how many did you order?04:28
PhoulUhh?04:28
bimberichasmarang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:28
Comrade_Vladimircause it didnt04:28
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, did you run it with sudo? try restarting X04:28
PhoulNouse04:28
unixx50, 25 x86 cd;s and 25ppc cd;s04:28
PhoulHuh?04:28
NoUsePhoul, you have a message from ubotu with links to Howtos04:28
TokenBadcool04:29
Phoulyeah i know04:29
PhoulI just want to have the system04:29
TokenBadI did their default one for 55 cds04:29
chasmarangIn System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives04:29
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unixxnice04:29
TokenBad40 x86, 10 64 bit and 5 macs04:29
unixxive been with ubuntu for along time now04:29
unixxi started with warty04:29
unixxkewlkewl04:29
thompa-Ahi, how do i moun the windows partition?04:29
thompa-Amount04:29
NoUsePhoul, you said you wanted e17, those are links on how to get e17,04:29
bimberithompa-A:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:29
PhoulUmm04:30
PhoulOkay04:30
fredforfaen!nvidia04:30
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:30
thompa-Athanks bimberi, i should go through the wiki some04:30
TokenBadI been with ubuntu for 6 months I think04:30
TokenBadthats about all04:30
Cartesian1984ok, i have this problem with grub. when trying to boot feather linux from a usb key, i get an error message "GRUB error 17"04:30
bimberithompa-A: np :)04:30
Comrade_Vladimir_jason still the same04:30
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TokenBadanyone tell me why after I installed java it not work..and this is after restarted mozzilla04:30
chasmarangIn System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives04:31
unixxi also use gentoo, alinux, mepis, slackeware, suse and mandriva04:31
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, how did you restart X without leaving xchat!04:31
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, or are you on a diff computer?04:31
TokenBadcool...i tried fedora, gentoo and a couple others04:31
Comrade_Vladimiroh no04:31
ubuntuHow do I go about mounting  drive?04:31
TokenBadbut like ubuntu best so far04:31
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dooglus!flash04:31
ubotumethinks flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:31
TokenBadand their tech support is by far the best04:31
unixxubuntu has way more junk in its reps04:31
_jasoncomrade, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X for you (save anything you are working on)04:32
chasmarangTokenBad: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives04:32
unixxand free pressed cd's, thats the best part04:32
dooglusis there a page that talks me through all the stuff you usually set up after installing breezy?  flash, java vm, mp3, dvd, etc?04:32
dooglusw32codecs, etc.04:32
TokenBadthe wiki page does04:32
_jasonubotu, tell dooglus about faq04:32
TokenBadat least that is what I used04:33
che_wickedhow to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?04:33
TokenBadbut I still don't know why java isn't working04:33
Hobbsee_awaydooglus: i did indeed see the kernal holes - didnt make that much sense to me though04:33
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eternalisthow do i stop this one process from going, i keep killingit but it keeps coming back.04:33
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sethketernalist, usually that's because there is an auto-restart in one of the init files04:34
eternalistyes buti removed it.04:34
dooglusHobbsee: I didn't have a good look, but that's a lot of holes!04:34
sethketernalist, must appear in more than one level04:34
Hobbseelol04:34
eternalisti used rc-update remove..04:34
MadpilotI've got an old harddrive that I want to eventually reformat w/ ext3, but first I want to mount it and check what's left in it - I can't remember if it's NTFS or FAT32, though. How can I get that information?04:34
NoUseMadpilot, is it in the computer?04:34
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unixxright click properties?04:34
sethkMadpilot, try to mount it.  if it is ntfs, you'll mount it as ntfs, and the same for fat3204:34
eternalistsethk, how do i stop it.04:34
sethketernalist, if it really is in an init file, you have to find that file and remove it (or move to another init level)04:35
chasmarangHobbsee: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives04:35
sethketernalist, you can do init 1 to stop it for the moment04:35
sethkMadpilot, or what unixx said if it is physically in the box04:35
MadpilotNoUse: yeah, it's seen as hdd. sethk, I thought mount needed to know which format it was dealing with before it would mount the thing?04:35
Hobbseechasmarang: edit your /etc/fstab?04:35
bimberiMadpilot: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdX04:35
sethkMadpilot, the mount will fail if you give it the wrong type04:36
jayson_Ihow to make our own language?04:36
sethkMadpilot, and it will succeed when you give it the right one04:36
chasmarangoh good is there any certain commands04:36
jayson_Ii'm planning to build our own language.04:36
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Hobbsee!tell chasmarang about mount04:36
Madpilotsethk: OK, trial and error it is. Thanks, all04:36
Hobbseechasmarang: check your pm from ubotu04:36
basheerhello all04:36
sethkMadpilot, only two choices, so it won't take long  :)04:36
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sethkMadpilot, you can, actually, use type=auto and mount will frequently but not always figure out what it is04:37
unixxis there such thing as disk defragmenter for linux?04:37
chasmarangno I mean like can I leave out sudo04:37
basheercan anyone see me type?04:37
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NoUseunixx, you don't need one04:37
ganooshshould a swap partition be primary or logical?04:37
bimberibasheer: no04:37
Madpilotsethk: good to know - off to review man mount, then04:37
chasmarangand just say mount /dev/hda1 /win/c04:37
unixxok04:37
bimberibasheer: :)04:37
sethkganoosh, it really should be primary, but the installer seems to like to make it logical04:37
unixxbasheer i see u04:37
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sethkganoosh, it makes the installer program logic less complicated, but it's not the optimal solution04:37
dooglusI just asked to install "build-essential".  It told me it needed to get "0 bytes", and that after install, 41Mb extra would be used.  Why did it have to get 0 bytes?  the packages weren't installed already.04:38
basheerare pms in red?04:38
sethkganoosh, although the difference is probably minute04:38
ganooshthe only way i can get a main and swap is to have both logical how can i make the main partition prinary04:38
Hobbseechasmarang: yes, you can, but you'll probably need mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows04:38
bimberibasheer: no, only if your nick is used04:38
basheerok04:38
intelikeyyep type=auto fails on floppies with ext2 though cause it sees the msdos sig. and stops looking....04:38
chasmarangHobbsee: why04:38
ajmitch_dooglus: because the packages were in the apt cache, copied from the cd04:38
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varsendaggerdoes anyone have dgen setup so that i can save them04:38
Hobbseechasmarang: well, because there's no /win/c folder04:38
Hobbseeno, hang on...04:38
basheerhas everyone upgraded to breezy?04:39
unixxi did04:39
unixxi got my cd;s last night :)04:39
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unixxcd's04:39
Hobbseebasheer: yes, and got dapper here as well04:39
chasmarangyes that's where I've made it /win/c04:39
dooglusajmitch_: ooh, I see.  is there a lot of other stuff in the cache that isn't used?04:39
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Hobbseechasmarang: on bootup, or just temporarily?04:39
basheerseems a little cleaner to me04:39
Hobbseechasmarang: as in, do you want to mount this drive on bootup, or just temporarily?04:39
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basheerhaving trouble with getting some programs like skype04:40
chasmarangon bootup04:40
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basheermaybe my sources.list is incorrect04:40
unixxmy modem keeps dialing on bootup for sum reason04:40
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Hobbseechasmarang: see this then http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:40
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bimberibasheer: skype isn't in the ubuntu repositories ...04:40
Hobbseechasmarang: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2514926 in particular04:40
bimberiubotu tell basheer about skype04:41
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ajmitch_dooglus: yeah, there's a reasonable amount that gets copied off the cd04:41
darksoulany free 3d games out there04:41
ClayGskype is a GREAT messenger but unfortunatly the people aren't the greatest04:41
ClayGor at least weren't back 5-6 months ago when i was using it all the time04:41
dooglusajmitch_: thanks04:41
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, any luck?04:41
Comrade_Vladimirno same old04:42
darksoulany free 3d games out there04:42
basheerI dont know about it04:42
toblerpdarksoul: neverball04:42
Comrade_Vladimirtake longenough to get vack on04:42
Madpilotdarksoul: Enemy Territory & America's Army - and please don't repeat questions like that...04:42
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_jasonComrade_Vladimir, don't know what to tell you then, someone smarter than I will have to help you04:42
basheerthis dude wants me to get it but not sure if I want it04:42
unixxanyone know y my modem could keep dialing at bootup?04:42
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varsendaggerhas anyone gotten dgen to work for loading saved games04:42
PorcupineTreewhy might my thunderbird cstop retrieving my mail all the suddon04:42
Comrade_Vladimirsome one else help me then04:42
PorcupineTreeis there a log saying what it is timing out on?04:42
dooglusI just ran "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" as suggested by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , but even after restarting firefox I still see no flash playing.  Is this a common problem?04:43
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, just ask your question and if someone knows they will try04:43
ClayGbasheer,  get it, if for nothing else you can make prank calls and scare people when your caller id pops up "123456789"04:43
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_jasondooglus, install flashplayer-mozilla as well04:43
intelikeyunixx /etc/rcS.d/net*   maybe ?04:43
unixxokok ill giver a go04:43
ClayGI like to call people with it then say I'm calling from Iraq on a satalite phones and I'm trying to reach my mother04:43
Comrade_Vladimirits a little long04:44
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basheerwhat is dapper?04:44
Hobbsee!dapper04:44
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake04:44
PorcupineTreewhat do you use clayg?04:44
PorcupineTreeClayG, What do you use?04:44
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ClayG?04:44
ClayGas far as what?04:44
ClayGmessengers?04:44
basheerwhen is that to be released?04:44
Comrade_Vladimirok my all my media players say there is an error with the card or codec04:44
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PorcupineTreeClayG, For the calling software that you are talking about04:44
ClayGSkype04:44
Madpilotto mount a FAT32 drive, should I use vfat? fat32 doesn't seem to be mentioned in man mount.04:44
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ClayGThis was 4-5 months ago and it has since been boughbt by paypal/ebay but im sure it's the same deal04:45
intelikeyyes vfat04:45
PorcupineTreeClayG, You can't call a landline phone with that... can you?04:45
ClayGI think it was like 2.9 cents a minute04:45
ClayGyes but you will pay04:45
Madpilotintelikey: thanks04:45
unixxim out, later everyone!04:45
intelikeynp04:45
ClayGit's worth it, heck you can even set up incoming numbers and select the area code you want04:45
PorcupineTreewow cool04:45
Goddoes anyone know a good P2P client for linux?04:46
TokenBadI am going to do vonage04:46
unixxlimewire04:46
ClayGit's great , very good software but the people on it are a bunch of indian fags (no offense to any indian fags, or any fags at all here)04:46
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ClayGand people from Asia asking you to teach them english04:46
pawansudoers question: my machine is called kewl, I want to run nmap from it. On a default sudoers file I just add pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap       after the    root    ALL=(ALL) ALL      line. But sudo nmap kewl      keeps prompting me for a password when I run it as pawan. Clues?04:46
GodI don't like limewire04:46
Godpast experiences.04:46
bimberiGod: gtk-gnutella is good04:46
unixxi like it, i use it on osx04:46
pawanbimberi : better than xmule?04:47
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Godbimberi, Hey thanks. again.04:47
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che_wickedhow to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?04:47
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bimberipawan: no idea, i've not used many04:47
dooglus_jason: as well, or instead of?04:47
Comrade_Vladimirany one a major in mudia in ubuntu04:47
basheerbimberi can I see your sources.list?04:47
pawanche_wicked : > .xsession-errors does it for me.04:47
bimberiGod: np :)04:48
che_wickedpawan,what would i do?04:48
intelikeyche_wicked sudo rm .xsession*04:48
che_wickedpawan,ok04:48
bimberibasheer: sure, mine is just like this - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232504:48
pawanche_wicked : if your file is huge, it just zeros it.04:48
_jasondooglus, I only have the mozilla one isntalled and it works however I have seen people recommend installing both04:48
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ClayGTHere was a software on windows, called irc-ork04:49
dooglus_jason: I removed the 'nonfree' and installed the one you suggested.  that worked, thanks.04:49
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che_wickedpawan,i sudo usin root?04:49
_jasondooglus, great04:49
dooglusthanks for all the help over the last few days guys.04:49
bimberibasheer: note that that sources.list won't get you skype though (guessing where you're coming from)04:49
pawanintelikey : er... that will rm .xsessionrc or whatever, won't it?04:49
Comrade_Vladimirthough i can put it on my mp3 player and hear it like that04:49
ClayGit was something else, it created a kazaa/limewire like interface for IRC channels, you could update the list download updated lists and basically you would have everything on irc as an option04:49
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dooglushopefully I'll go back to answering mode now, rather than asking mode :)04:49
basheernah04:49
basheerI am not really looking for skype04:49
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bimberibasheer: k :)04:50
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ClayGof coarse something super new, or not dropped you would not have but if it was listed on xdccspy or the like <which is about 1 day  max> it's a done deal04:50
gimmulf_Tomorrow i will switch processor from an amd athlon xp 2600+ to an amd64 + new motherboard.. Do i need to reinstall ubuntu?04:50
basheerjust wondered about it04:50
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MadpilotOdd... I try this: brian@warbard:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd ~/twenty, and get this reponse: mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /home/brian/twenty busy - what's up?04:50
Pupenogimmulf_: I'd re-install.04:50
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pawanche_wicked : no. what's the problem anyway? I thought you were probably complaining about .xsession-errors being huge after a long time.04:50
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arkanesgimmulf_: Yes, you will want to re-install04:51
intelikeypawan yes.   .xsession-error is an auto-generated file that xorg creates in your home dir.....   so removing it should stop any error message about it and let xorg make a new file.04:51
che_wickedpawan,it says your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and being ignored04:51
versipolisMadpilot: you arent in the directory are you?04:51
bimberiMadpilot: hdd is the whole disk.  Maybe hdd104:51
GodLol it won't let me ssh into myself.04:51
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Madpilotversipolis: nope, I'm in my own user dir when i'm trying this04:51
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basheerbimberi: that is exactly what yours looks like?04:51
sethkMadpilot, that's true about hdd, but not causing your message04:51
che_wickedpawan,i try to login on desktop but that errors apear04:51
sethkMadpilot, try lsof | grep twenty04:52
ubuntu43eis there a easy way to get java support in any web browser? I have tried and not had any luck04:52
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bimberibasheer: last time i looked04:52
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jayson_Imono already running in ubuntu?04:52
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thrice`!java04:52
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:52
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Madpilotsethk: that gets me: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev Output information may be incomplete.04:52
pawanche_wicked : interesting. I have no idea what .dmrc is. Are you able to login?04:52
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Comrade_Vladimirso deos anyone know why beep displays this error     Couldn't open audio.04:53
Comrade_VladimirPlease check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.04:53
sethkMadpilot, man, it is seriously confused04:53
bored2kis it 100% safe to remove the 386 kernel image after i start using 686 ?04:53
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sethkMadpilot, this might be a rare situation where rebooting might be justified04:53
pawanche_wicked : what is the problem?04:53
che_wickedpawan,i cant login04:53
sethkbored2k, if you don't run it, you don't need it.  but unless you need the space, what's the point?04:53
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che_wickedpawan,it says your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and being ignored that errors appear04:53
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bored2ksethk, k thanks.04:54
intelikeylooks like 'mount/umount' has a bug on either breezy or dapper  or both,   over the last three days i've seen several people told to reboot to umount a drive.04:54
bimberiubuntu43e: Applications -> Add Applications, Internet -> More Programs... -> Java Web Start04:54
jrsimsCan someone concisely explain Gnome themes? It seems there are two flavors of themes in Gnome: metacity and GTK - and there's two versions of GTK. WTF?04:54
fletch33evening all i am trying to install freenx client and i keep getting this:  $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient &04:54
fletch33bash: $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient: No such file or directory04:54
fletch33[1]  2039904:54
fletch33[1]    Exit 127                $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient04:54
fletch33    anyone know how to fix this04:54
intelikey!flood04:54
ubotuI heard flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.04:54
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buddy   I'm having trouble with Telnetd04:54
Madpilotsethk: actually, using bimberi's suggestion of hdd1 seems to have worked - but lsof is still confused04:54
fletch33sorry04:55
douba bit of an OT question : what's the transition scheme from debian sid to ubuntu universe? seems like some universe apps stuck at the version they were when hoary was released04:55
MrFartsJRlinux, metacity is not a theme04:55
MrFartsjrsims, it's a window manager04:55
pawanche_wicked : google is your friend : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=50265904:55
Comrade_Vladimirso deos anyone know why beep displays this error     Couldn't open audio.04:55
Comrade_VladimirComrade_Vladimir Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly04:55
MrFartsgtk is a set of widgets04:55
bimberifletch33: following this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX ?04:55
sethkMadpilot, those are separate issues.  I said that he was right about hdd, but that you have at least two things going on there.  I get worried when things get confused in the file system04:55
buddyWhere does the telnetd install to I couldnt finde etc/initd.d04:55
che_wickedpawan,ok ty anywaus04:56
fletch33bimberi,  that is where i started04:56
jrsimsMrFarts: but metacity has themes, right?04:56
MrFartsJRlinux, no, gtk has themes04:56
Madpilotsethk: thankfully this is just a junk disc, my main HDD is different...04:56
MrFartsjrsims, i guess you can say metacity has themes as well because it's configurable04:56
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fletch33bimberi,  i always like to search and try to find answers myself but i am stuck and really need to get this working04:56
bimberifletch33: k, just making sure04:56
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Colefletch33: whats wrong?04:57
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intelikeyMadpilot did i read that right did you mount /dev/hdd some place and hdd is a hd not a cd ?04:57
takmadeusgreetings.... may I suggest a package to be added to the repositories, that is, if you don't mind?04:57
jrsimsMrFarts: hmm. So all themes in Gnome are GTK?04:57
fletch33look at my paste above04:57
Comrade_Vladimiris there a better way to get a response?04:57
thrice`takmadeus, what package is that ?04:57
Colefletch33: i wasn't in room04:57
_jasonComrade_Vladimir, try the forums04:57
MrFartsjrsims, yes04:57
cowbudcan someone point me to the oldworld instructions on installing to a g3 powerbook for ubuntu04:58
fletch33Cole, well i dont want to paste again how can i show u this04:58
Comrade_Vladimirok where r they04:58
Madpilotintelikey: it's an ATA hard drive, showing as hdd, that I've got mounted to /home/brian/twenty now04:58
thrice`!install04:58
ubotuI guess install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation04:58
_jason!forum04:58
uboturumour has it, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org04:58
takmadeusthrice`: it is a frontend for visualboyadvance04:58
jrsimsMrFarts: maybe you know the answer to this - Firefox follows the theme I've set for Gnome. Synaptic doesn't. Why is that?04:58
Madpilotintelikey: my CD drives are hda & hdb04:58
Colepastebin.com04:58
takmadeusthrice`: I found a deb package made for ubuntu04:58
thrice`takmadeus, the best place to suggest would be the backport forums, at ubuntuforums.org04:58
MrFartsjrsims, i don't know what synaptic is -- perhaps it's not a gtk application or it uses an older version of gtk04:59
takmadeusthrice`: so I thought it would be useful to add it to the repositories04:59
intelikeyMadpilot i may not understand you correctly but don't you mount hdd1  rather than hdd ?04:59
fletch33Cole,  basiccaly my terminal says $/usr/nx/bin/nxclient: no such file or directory04:59
Colefletch33: err http://pastebin.ca/04:59
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bimberifletch33: it04:59
takmadeusthrice`: thanks for the advice04:59
bimberifletch33: it's NX (case sensitive)04:59
Madpilotintelikey: yes - trying just "hdd" wasn't working, "hdd1" did - it's mounted now04:59
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bimberifletch33: as in /usr/NX/bin/nxclient04:59
takmadeusthrice`: Good luck to you all ;)04:59
fletch33bimberi, i am sorry that i swhat is says NX04:59
intelikeymounting the disk of a hard drive is bad,  always mount partitions.04:59
thrice`takmadeus, sure thing,04:59
tman_ubuntuCan someone help me with the Tar command please?05:00
MrFartsjrsims, oh, it's the ubuntu package manager ... it should follow themes05:00
Madpilotintelikey: Linux (obviously) thinks in terms of partitions even when the whole disc is one partition05:00
MrFartstman_ubuntu, what's the question05:00
thrice`tman_ubuntu, did you ask "man tar" first ?05:00
intelikeyyes Madpilot05:00
bimberifletch33: sorry, just re-read your earlier paste05:00
Colefletch3: linux is CaSe SenSiTiVe so depending on what you type.. it might actually not be what you mean05:00
tman_ubuntuI'm trying to exclude directories but the --exclude option doesn't seem to work.05:00
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cowbudanyone ubuntu ppc people here?05:01
MrFartstman_ubuntu, what do you mean by exclude directories ?05:01
intelikeyyou never mound a disk you only mount a file system on a disk.  be it hd cd or what ever.05:01
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sethktman_ubuntu, the position on the line is important with that command05:01
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fletch33Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/3049205:01
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tman_ubuntuI'll post my command...05:01
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MrFartstman_ubuntu, i don't care about your command05:01
sethktman_ubuntu, good idea05:01
darksoulhey my freind just downloaded ubuntu and he cant get his ethernet card working, he looked under system administration and networking but it doesnt show a eithernet card either.. just modem..and ideas05:01
MrFartstman_ubuntu, i am asking what you are trying to actually do05:01
fletch33bimberi,  i dont know what the problem is05:01
sethkdarksoul, is it a very odd ethernet card?  old, or very new?05:02
Epic_how the crap do I mount a drive in the livecd?05:02
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sethkMrFarts, off hand, it sounds like he is trying to exclude directories05:02
bimberifletch33: you did install the nxclient package (sudo apt-get install nxclient)?05:02
tman_ubuntuMrFarts: I'm trying to backup.  As a test, I'm doing MyDocuments directory.05:02
darksoulill ask05:02
darksoulsethk: im asking him05:02
sethkdarksoul, k05:02
MrFartssethk, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense05:02
fletch33bimberi,  yes and it says i have the latest version05:02
tman_ubuntuhere is the command I'm running:  tar cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music05:02
intelikeysethk didn't mean to cut in on you and Madpilot, carry on05:02
Colefletch33: try typing "ls -l /usr/NX/bin" and what does it say05:02
sethkMrFarts, sure it does.  I do it frequently05:02
darksoulsethk: Very new, i brought it ysturday05:02
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sethkMrFarts, why wouldn't it?05:03
darksoulsethk: just repeting what he said05:03
sethkdarksoul, well, that's not exactly what I meant by new  :)05:03
ubuntu43eim trying to install java but it tells me that   could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock   then says unable to unlock the administration directory05:03
sethkdarksoul, what kind of card is it?05:03
darksoulsethk: ill ask05:03
bimberifletch33: k :) (sry, had to ask)05:03
cyphaseDoes anyone have any wireless card working out of the box on a desktop running Ubuntu?05:03
Madpilotintelikey: it's is mounted now, I'm just going to delete everything on it and reformat the thing...05:03
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MrFartssethk, it's an ambiguous statement05:03
Epic_anyone?05:03
Amaranthubuntu43e: do you have synaptic open?05:03
Coleubuntu43e: do you have anything else runnign for an update? or synaptic open?05:03
Epic_The wiki hsn't helped05:03
MrFartssethk, do you flatten out your directory tree or do you just backup files in a given directory without doing subdirectories ?05:03
Razor-Xcyphase: Netgear cards are supported by the kernel by default, IIRC05:03
sethkcyphase, I have two laptops I loaded up today that worked out of the box.  A card with the same chipset would be the same05:03
fletch33Cole, k 1 sec05:03
ubuntu43eim using terminal as the directions said to05:03
versipoliscyphase: never had a problem with orinoco cards..05:03
intelikeyMadpilot you need to umount it for that.05:03
Razor-Xcyphase: generally because they use Tulip05:04
ubuntu43eyea05:04
Razor-X(that's the chipset)05:04
sethkMrFarts, typically I exclude something that I know is already backed up and not recently changed05:04
sethkMrFarts, and large05:04
ubuntu43ei got synaptic open05:04
Madpilotintelikey: to reformat? thanks, that would have been my next question ;)05:04
darksoulsethk: im glade to see your still here lol. anyway he says 'INTEX RTL 8139D LAN Card'05:04
ubuntu43ei just caught it at the bottom05:04
fletch33Cole, no such file or directory05:04
MrFartssethk, that's not the same as "excluding directories"05:04
Coleubuntu43e: you can't have 2 programs in the update stuff at the same time05:04
sethkMrFarts, of course it is05:04
intelikeyMadpilot sudo umount /dev/hdd1  ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd105:04
MrFartssethk, no it's not05:04
sethkdarksoul, let me see if that occurs in the kernel source05:04
Colefletch33: how did you install the NX client?05:04
sethkMrFarts, if you say so05:04
mtupperhey, can somebody help me with a real rookie problem?  how do I run winesetuptk?  i know its installed as i tried to install it and it said it was already installed, but I just cant figure out how to launch it...    i know its a total newbie ? but it is wine, so...05:04
fletch33directions from the wiki05:05
darksoulsethk: ?05:05
OracleofWuffingHi, I've been having some discouraging difficulties with another OS and a fresh S-ATA hard drive, and I'm just wondering if Ubuntu is okay being installed on a S-ATA drive.05:05
Colefletch33: link?05:05
MrFartssethk, for a group of geeks you people are awfully vague05:05
intelikeythat will format it fat32  i assumed from your earlier post.05:05
Madpilotintelikey: would it be "mkfs.ext3" to format it w/ ext3?05:05
sethkdarksoul, I'm checking for support for that card05:05
ubuntu43eok that got me past that problem05:05
intelikeyyes05:05
ubuntu43eim getting there05:05
Razor-Xmtupper: who/what told you to run winesetuptk?05:05
bimberifletch33: does "dpkg -L nxclient" output anything?05:05
tman_ubuntusethk, MrFarts, then what is the correct syntax for excluding directories using Tar?05:05
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fletch33Cole, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX05:05
intelikeyyou can add -c if you want to test for bad blocks Madpilot05:05
fletch33bimberi,  1 sec05:05
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mtupperrazor-x: the description in synaptic...05:05
cyphaseRazor-X, I have a Netgear WG311v2 card that is specifically mentioned in the wiki, but it's not working05:06
Madpilotintelikey: probably a good idea, this is not a new drive05:06
MrFartstman_ubuntu, i honestly don't understand what you mean by "exclude directories" -- read above05:06
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freakmandoes anyone know a good note-taking app?05:06
Razor-Xcyphase: does it use tulip? I know older netgear cards use tulip and work out of the box like a charm05:06
sethkfreakman, actually, no, I was considering writing one.  but there probably is one I haven't found.05:06
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tman_ubuntuhow 'bout exclude files and directories?05:06
Epic_You gotta be joking. No one can help me with a mount05:06
Madpilotfreakman: Tomboy is sort of cool for little post-it note type thigns05:06
cyphaseRazor-X, i don't know05:06
freakmanI need something for taking class notes...05:06
cyphasei just tried using a PCMCIA -> PCI bridge card and a supported PCMCIA card, but the bridge isn't supported05:06
MrFartstman_ubuntu, directories are files, but ok .. .:)05:06
freakmansethk: you should do it :-)05:06
MadpilotEpic_: read "man mount" - it should work on a LiveCD as well05:06
MrFartstman_ubuntu, and on what basis would you like to exclude them ?05:07
ubuntu43eit tells me know that it cant find the java package05:07
tman_ubuntuBasically I'm trying to backup a directory.  some of the children directories i don't want to be tarred.  How do I exclude them?05:07
Razor-Xmtupper: use ``wine program.exe'' and it should work out of the house05:07
ubuntu43ewhich i downloaded and it on the desktop05:07
Epic_k05:07
sethkfreakman, I was thinking more of journal writing, but the requirements are probably very similar05:07
ubuntu43eand im running those commands from that directory05:07
freakmansethk: yeah05:07
sethktman_ubuntu, did you post the command?05:07
MrFartstman_ubuntu, depends on what you know about the files05:07
cyphaseRazor-X, what exactly is tulip?05:07
fletch33bimberi, Cole http://pastebin.ca/3049505:07
freakmanhmmm05:07
tman_ubuntuYes I did.05:07
MrFartstman_ubuntu, if you have a pattern to use you can use --exclude05:07
Razor-Xcyphase: it's the name of a chipset05:07
darksoulsethk: well?05:07
MrFartstman_ubuntu, otherwise, i would do it through find05:08
freakmanhow would you install http://basket.kde.org on ubuntu?05:08
sethkdarksoul, hold on, it takes a little time05:08
cyphaseoh05:08
cyphaselol05:08
MrFartstman_ubuntu, or do incremental tar05:08
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MrFartstman_ubuntu, if that's what you want05:08
tman_ubuntuMrFarts, that's what I'm asking and trying to do.  It doesn't seem to work though.05:08
MrFartstman_ubuntu, where's the command string ?05:08
tman_ubuntutar cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music05:08
Colefletch33: sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin05:09
TokenBadEpic_, what you trying to mount?05:09
jrsimsah, how do I get drop-shadows in Gnome?05:09
sethkdarksoul, I'm not seeing it.  It is possible that it is compatible with an earlier intel card05:09
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sethkdarksoul, also, some of the intel cards are repackaged marvel cards05:09
freakmansethk: do you know how to install http://basket.kde.org?05:09
tman_ubuntuMrFarts, so what do you think.  Does it look ok?05:09
OrbordeI need a program to convert a file to base64. I assume there is one; I just don't know where it is.05:09
arkanesjrsims: you need to enable compositing and install & run a composite manager05:09
sethkfreakman, let me take a look05:09
asprofreakman: install the debian package or check universe?05:09
jrsimsarkanes: synaptic?05:10
freakmanaspro: what's universe?05:10
synackuatorcan anyone point me to a good howto on rebuilding my kernel?05:10
MrFartstman_ubuntu, no05:10
arkanesjrsims: it's a little more complicated than that, there's no magic "turn on" switch for it yet05:10
asprothe ubuntu repositories05:10
synackuatori can't seem to find one on ubuntuforums05:10
darksoulsethk: hummm so basicly itys out to get anotehr one05:10
bimberifletch33: well there it is, line 7 :/05:10
tman_ubuntuWhat is out of place?05:10
Epic_Just a ide drive05:10
ubuntu43eI guess im just stuck.. i cant get it to install java05:10
sethkfreakman, the source version would be easy enough to install05:10
MrFartstman_ubuntu, put the --exclude before the file arguments05:10
jrsimsarkanes: drat. do you have drop-shadows enabled/05:10
Epic_and I don't seem to ahve a dev/fstab05:10
Colebimberi: i think it is a permission issue05:10
Colebimberi: where his user doesn't have rights to even read the directory05:11
freakmansethk: I'll take a look :-)05:11
sethkdarksoul, I would first go to Intel's web site and see if they reference a driver.  They sometimes do, these days05:11
MrFartsalso, i don't see where exclude takes an "="05:11
ubuntu43eit says it cant find the file and its the only file in the current directory05:11
MrFartstman_ubuntu, read the manpage05:11
arkanesjrsims: the composite manager occasionally locks up X for me, so I turned them back off05:11
MrFartstman_ubuntu, oh sorry, it does ...05:11
jrsimsarkanes: too bad. So what's the holdup on that feature for gnome?05:12
MrFartstman_ubuntu, but anyway, it needs to go in the beginning05:12
tman_ubuntuMrFarts, I did read the man page.  Sometimes those are about as cryptic as ancient chinese.05:12
fletch33Cole,  i got " nxclient, mxesd,nxprint,mxssh05:12
bimberiCole: good thinking05:12
fletch33bimberi, what does that mean then05:12
Colefletch33: will you pastebin it i want to see permissions/owner/group stuff05:12
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tman_ubuntuMrFarts, so the --exclude should go before "MyDocuments"?05:12
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ubuntu43eI know it i can see how windows has such a massive user base05:12
MrFartstman_ubuntu,  tar --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music -cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments05:12
Epic_Nor is there a ect/mtab05:12
Epic_wtf05:12
ookamianyone know what:  "XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" means?05:12
fletch33Cole,  how do i do that05:13
sethkMrFarts, now you are using the =  :)05:13
Madpilotwow, deleting 7Gb of stuff with -v set in rm causes a lot of scrolling... ;)05:13
ubuntu43ei cant even get stupid java support to work05:13
MrFartssethk, the manpage says it's ok :)05:13
arkanesjrsims: just general "work in progress" stuff and packaging issues05:13
Colesudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin05:13
bimberifletch33: "sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin" -> pastebin05:13
PorcupineTreeHello05:13
jrsimsarkanes: is it on the list for future Gnome releases?05:13
MrFartstman_ubuntu, if you read the manpage it says that the options should go before the file names05:13
PorcupineTreeDoes thunderbird hav a logfile that tells what is going on during connection?05:13
PorcupineTreeit is halthing when I try to access email05:14
ubuntu43eit makes no sense to go thru 30 mins of garbage just to get a java plug in05:14
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PorcupineTreeit has worked for monthes05:14
arkanesjrsims: I believe so, they're working on merging some of the work done with luminocity05:14
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TokenBadepic you mounting a plain windows drive?05:14
versipolisexit05:14
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jrsimsarkanes: what's luminocity?05:14
thrice`ubuntu43e, we have told you a few solutiosn now05:14
Epic_Si05:14
tman_ubuntuMrFarts, I just tried your version and it still didn't work.  It still included the "My Music" directory.05:14
fletch33bimberi, i typed that05:14
freakmansethk: I'm getting errors05:14
fletch33bimberi,  and nothing05:14
Epic_Yes05:14
MrFartstman_ubuntu, your pattern is probably wrong05:15
arkanesjrsims: experimental window manager for gnome that implements all sorts of fancy bling05:15
thrice`tman_ubuntu, what command are you using exactly05:15
ookamiim trying to do ./configure on eog source but im getting:  XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool ... no idea what it means. am i missing something? i have the essential build tools...05:15
TokenBaddid you first try sudo fdisk -l to list your partitions?05:15
sethkfreakman, such as?  or put the errors on a 'bot.  but usually only the first two or three error lines matter05:15
Colefletch33: how did you know the 4 files.. i want to see all the output for the files05:15
asprofreakman: did you try the debian package? most .debs work in ubuntu05:15
jrsimsarkanes: slick. that makes me happy. :)05:15
thrice`ubotu, tell ubuntu43e about java05:15
fletch33bimberi,  it justs says " nxclient, nxesd, nxprint, nxssh "05:15
freakmanaspro: I don't think there's a package for basket05:15
Hobbsee!tell ubuntu43e about javadebs05:15
ubuntu43edoes anyone know a better way to get java support in a web browser??05:15
ubuntu43eI cant get this to work05:15
MrFartstman_ubuntu, that pattern isn't going to match unless you are backing up from the root directory05:15
asprothere is, on that url you pasted05:15
Colefletch33: did you put the -l in there thats a dash L05:16
thrice`ubuntu43e, check your PM; ubotu has told you a few ways05:16
asprobelow the source download05:16
Colefletch33: but lowercase L05:16
tman_ubuntuAh.  Ok.  Let me go to root then.05:16
asprohttp://basket.kde.org/downloads/?file=basket-0.5.0-debian05:16
fletch33Cole, ok i will try again sorry05:16
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thrice`tman_ubuntu, what command did you use?05:16
ubuntu43ei didnt see the pms sorry05:16
MrFartstman_ubuntu, why don't you change the pattern ?05:16
Epic_I can see documents stating drive model and driver stuff in /proc/ide/hda05:16
echoHello, I need activex controls for Steam to load using Wine.  I can get it installed, but then it hangs after update.  I've tried installing activex controls but get error mesg. 20205:16
Colefletch33: np .... -l is for long format.. it shows more info05:16
otepookami: i think, apt-get install libxml-parser-perl might help05:16
MrFartstman_ubuntu, if you are backing up from the root dir, you will have to exclude a lot more crap ;)05:16
TokenBadEpic_, did you read what i said?05:17
TokenBaddid you first try sudo fdisk -l to list partitions?05:17
MrFartstman_ubuntu, "My Music" is probably a sufficient exclude pattern05:17
PorcupineTreeDoes thunderbird have a log file?05:17
Hobbseeaspro: IIRC basket is in respositories05:17
MrFartstman_ubuntu, *My Music*05:17
MrFartsthat is05:17
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MrFartstman_ubuntu, use wildcards05:17
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Epic_I did05:18
TokenBadok05:18
tman_ubuntuMrFarts, Hot damn it worked.  If you were here, I'd kiss you or shake you hand.  Thanks.05:18
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TokenBadand you found the partition you wanted to mount?05:18
Coleecho: what program are you trying to run in wine?05:18
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MrFartstman_ubuntu, what did you do ?05:18
Epic_It did nothing05:18
echosteam, for half-life 2 cs:s so on05:18
fletch33Cole,  " ls: user/NX/bin: No such file or directory"05:18
fredforfaenim currently running the k7 kernel on breezy with nvidia installed...i want to start use a i686 kernel....i got the kernel installed and it work fine but i cant seem to get ubuntu to activate 3d accelleration for my new kernel...what to do?05:18
tman_ubunturan it from the root directory.05:18
asproHobbsee: ahh Im on my mac atm so I cant check05:18
bimberifletch33: usr not user05:19
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Colefletch: sorry no e in "sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin"05:19
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Hobbseeaspro: i just did, it's there05:19
OrbordeHow do I re-encode a WAV file into FLAC?05:19
MrFartstman_ubuntu, i'm not sure that was a good idea05:19
Hobbsee!tell aspro about info basket05:19
MrFartstman_ubuntu, i just said it would make the pattern work05:19
Hobbseeaspro: in universe05:19
fredforfaendo i have to uninstall nvidia first or?05:19
asproHobbsee: I'm not after it, freakman is :)05:19
sethkfredforfaen, start by doing lsmod for the working kernel, and for the new kernel, and see what's different05:19
tman_ubuntuWhy not.  It accomplished what I was trying to do, didn't it?05:19
intelikeycole no sudo in ls   :)05:19
MrFartstman_ubuntu, well now you'd have to extract it from root in order to get all the paths correct05:20
Hobbseefreakman: basket is in the repositories, universe section05:20
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Coleintelikey: his user account can't read the directory05:20
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Hobbseeaspro: ah, didnt see that05:20
mhzhi all05:20
intelikeyoh05:20
Coleintelikey: permissions are fubar05:20
freakmanHobbsee: it is?05:20
mhzhttp://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuRequestDay05:20
Hobbseefreakman: yes05:20
otep!tell otep about eclipse05:20
fredforfaensethk i bet its the nvidia module thats different the i686 dont have it i presume05:20
Hobbsee!tell freakman about repos05:20
sethkfredforfaen, well, of course that will change things.  :)05:20
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sethkHobbsee, you didn't make your car payment?  :)05:20
fletch33Cole, bimberi http://pastebin.ca/3049705:20
tman_ubuntuThat is my intentions.  I see your point though.  Since we are on relative paths, how would I do it with relatives?05:21
freakmanHobbsee: thanks :-)05:21
Hobbseehehehe sethk05:21
Hobbseeno problems freakman05:21
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freakmanI'm a linux n00b ;-)05:21
MrFartstman_ubuntu, do what -- come up with a correct exclude pattern ?05:21
freakmanthis is my 2nd day using ubuntu :-)05:21
TokenBadsup Hobbsee...how you doing?05:21
Hobbseeyou'll learn lol05:21
fredforfaensethk do i have to uninstall all nvidia/glx stuff then install it again from my i686 kernel?05:21
mhzor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuRequestDay05:21
HobbseeTokenBad: hey...good, just sitting here chatting to people05:21
tman_ubuntuWell, use the exclude pattern from a relative directory such as MyDocuments and not from the root.05:21
sethkfredforfaen, no, although the installer will recopy it05:22
varsendaggerfreakman, apt-cache search ______    this is the coolest utility ever05:22
TokenBadbeen a while...I tried going to another distro05:22
TokenBadbut had to come back to ubuntu05:22
varsendaggerthen you can apt-get it05:22
sethkfredforfaen, that stuff is installed into the X directory tree, not the kernel source tree05:22
MrFartstman_ubuntu, either 1. give it the relative path from where you are05:22
MrFarts2. use a wildcard05:22
Colefletch33: how about a "sudo -l /usr/NX" and then a "sudo -l /usr"05:22
PorcupineTreedoes thunderbird have a log file?05:22
HobbseeTokenBad: what'd you use instead?05:22
psusivarsendagger, synaptic is nicer05:22
fredforfaenwhats should i do then?05:22
fletch33Cole, k 1 sec05:22
TokenBadfedora05:22
tman_ubuntuUsing relative path from where I am gives me the problem as stated before.05:22
Colefletch33: np05:22
PorcupineTreefor logging what went on during a connection failure05:22
Hobbseefun05:22
varsendaggerapt-cache is faster05:23
TokenBadoh yeah it was05:23
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jrsimsPorcupineTree: your nick - from a song?05:23
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HobbseePorcupineTree: if it does, it'll be somewhere in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird05:23
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PorcupineTreejrsims,  not from a song, but the name of a band..05:23
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jrsimsPorcupineTree: ah. thought I'd seen it somewhere.05:23
MrFartstman_ubuntu, you're not doing it correctly05:23
varsendaggerfreakman, you can do that for tetris and then it will show you what you can download05:23
Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone here use inkscape05:24
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ficusplanetSonny_Wertzik: I do05:24
PorcupineTreeHobbsee, Looked there :)05:24
bob_4_a_dayok i'm back.05:24
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fredforfaencan anybody help me pls?05:24
tman_ubuntuMrFarts, OK.  I got it to work just as you said.  Thanks a bunch.05:24
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fletch33Cole, http://pastebin.ca/3049805:24
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Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, i installed the deb but it only works under root....have u had this problem?05:24
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ficusplanetSonny_Wertzik: Are you trying to install 0.43 or something?05:25
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JRlinuxSorry I was away.  Somebody said something to me, but it scrolled past me.05:25
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Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, no...the one from the repo05:25
Colefletch33: err my bad ... "sudo ls -l /usr/NX" and "sudo ls -l /usr"05:25
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fletch33Cole, ha 1 sec05:25
PorcupineTreeAny tips for seeing why thunderbird is no longer connecting to my mailserver?05:26
ficusplanetSonny_Wertzik: Did you install with Synaptic/apt-get?05:26
PorcupineTreeI can ping it05:26
MrFartstman_ubuntu, ok :)05:26
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thompa-A!kubuntu05:26
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/05:26
fredforfaenhow do i uninstall all the nvidia stuff?05:26
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rixthGonna give GIMP 2.4 a whirl now.05:26
Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, no...im using kde...so i used adept05:27
thrice`anyone have good solutions for streaming video in firefox, pref. not using mplayer?05:27
fletch33Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/3049905:27
Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, its version 0.42-1build105:27
thunderboltthrice`: why can't you use mplayer?05:27
Amaranththrice`: totem-xine + the totem firefox plugin05:27
thrice`thunderbolt, it's compiled so bad in ubuntu, with terrible deps05:27
Amaranththrice`: plus w32codecs if you're evil ;)05:27
thrice`Amaranth, there is a totem firefox plugin?  is it in the repos?05:28
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thrice`mozplugger?05:28
Amaranththrice`: Should be there by default.05:28
Amaranthno, a real plugin05:28
ficusplanetSonny_Wertzik: I definitely do not have that problem - I'm running in GNOME, but I don't see why that would change things.  Do you get any errors when running inkscape from konsole as a normal user?05:28
thrice`hrm...interesting05:28
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thrice`Amaranth, thanks for the tip...I'll check it out :)05:28
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thrice`Amaranth, it works for you ?05:28
Colefletch33: ooohh ok.. are you trying to use sudo to start the client?05:29
MocoI have made a Samba shared folder. When I try to access it from  my Windows computer, it asks for a username and password. When i enter that, it just prompts again. What is going on?05:29
thrice`Amaranth, the first google return was "totem plugin does NOT work" :P05:29
Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, yes i do....   *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x00002aaaadfaa278 ***05:29
Amaranththrice`: I don't watch streaming video.05:29
fletch33Cole,  start the client05:29
Amaranththrice`: Probably because they have totem-gstreamer.05:29
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thrice`Amaranth, hm; interesting.  I mainly want it for streaming apple trailers05:29
Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, its runs under root no problem05:29
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Colefletch33: when you where trying to type /usr/NX/bin/nxclient & where you putting sudo in front of it?05:30
Ep|phanyare there any other p2p other then frostwire i cant seem to get it to work05:30
dducko!limewire05:30
uboturumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.05:30
fletch33Cole, i didnt realize i only needed the client on here and i installed the rest on the machine i am trying to control05:30
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ficusplanetSonny_Wertzik: Try asking in #inkscape - you could also try installing the new 0.43 autopackages.05:30
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fletch33Cole, yes05:30
Ep|phanylimewire works on ubuntu?05:31
dduckoYes05:31
MocoI have made a Samba shared folder. When I try to access it from  my Windows computer, it asks for a username and password. When I enter that, it just prompts again. What is going on?05:31
bimberi!limewire05:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.05:31
The_Isle_of_Markyeah05:31
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Colefletch: type whoami  what does it say?05:31
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Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, ok ill try that channel.....i cant install anyother packages because auto-apt doesnt offer deps and i dont know deps05:31
fletch33Cole,  i tyoed "$sudo apt-get install nxclient" to install and then "$/usr/NX/bin/nxclient &" to start it05:31
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hav0khey, how do i make a partition on my drive for installing another os?05:32
odie5533Anyone know why the embedded video files in firefox only play for about 2 seconds?05:32
Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, thx for the help tho05:32
fletch33Cole,  but it says it cant find it in /bin05:32
ueuecoyotlI'm trying to configure my Logitech MX1000 mouse, and at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=7b920048579372524f02e28aac74c829&p=460250&postcount=119 it says that I should edit ~/.gnomerc but there is no such file. Can I make it _anywhere_ (ie /home)?05:32
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Colefletch33: can't find /bin when you do what?05:32
snowowlUnder System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It05:32
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pawansudoers question: my machine is called kewl, I want to run nmap from it. On a default sudoers file I just add pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap       after the    root    ALL=(ALL) ALL      line. But sudo nmap kewl      keeps prompting me for a password when I run it as pawan. Clues?05:32
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Ep|phanyk i extracted that and have java installed what file do i run05:33
bob_4_a_dayi don't remember who it was with the fubar'd perms on /usr/blah  but for checking things like that i kinda like 'stat -c"%a %F" /usr/blah'  it doesn't try to list the directory content it just shows perms and type of inode.    (for future refferance)05:33
bimberiMoco: you'll need to add a samba account - "sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>", then use that username/password05:33
fletch33Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/3050005:33
fredforfaen!nvidia05:33
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:33
Slaj_RQuestion:  After installing xmms, freepats, timidity, and xmms-midi, when I try to launch a midi file with xmms, the program crashes.  Xmms handles other media just fine, btw.05:33
psusibob_4_a_day, ls -ld /usr/blah should work as well05:33
snowowlUnder System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It05:34
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Colefletch33: ok you don't have to type $05:34
ubuntu43eI install everything but not one single java based game will work05:34
ubuntu43esomething must not be right05:34
Colefletch33: you know your currently root.. there is no need to be root.. be your normal user sean05:34
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fletch33Cole,  so get rid of $ for starting or when i installed05:35
ubuntu43eim using /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java to provide java... that would be correct?05:35
Agrajagubuntu43e: you probably need sun java05:35
Agrajag!java05:35
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:35
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pawansnowowl : it's probably a missing package from gnome or ubuntu network admin.05:35
MocoThanks bimberi05:35
ubuntu43eI just installed it05:35
Colefletch33: either.. you don't need to put a $ in front.. that means as a normal user.. where as # is the prompt when your root05:35
homeri've got a lovely bunch of coccanuts05:35
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AgrajagThen why are you not using it?05:35
bimberiMoco: np :)05:35
bob_4_a_daypawan look for your name above that.   it will stop searching at the first line that works with the given command.....05:35
AgrajagThat;s GNU gcj05:35
Slaj_ROh, and here's a twist:  I just discovered that when I invoke xmms from the command prompt, the file plays.05:36
ubuntu43ei dont know how to select it05:36
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fletch33Cole,  so i should install again and then execute again05:36
snowowlUnder System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It05:36
rixthHow do I get a list of currently loaded kernel modules?05:36
Colefletch33: do you see how your currently root@Sean ???  you should be root unless you are doing something very specific05:36
me__is there  a guide to optimize ubuntu even more05:36
bob_4_a_dayrixth lsmod05:36
ubuntu43eI run this command and only see 2 options  sudo update-alternatives --config java05:36
bimberirixth: lsmod05:36
Colefletch33: err should NOT be root (typo)05:36
rixthThanks05:37
ubuntu43ewhat should I see?05:37
fletch33Cole,  ok how do i change that (sorry and thanks)05:37
pawanbob_4_a_day : er... I have the default sudoer file, ie it is pristine and unsullied by my hands until I add in my nmap line using visudo.05:37
ubuntu43eI went by the install guide and didnt get any errors installing it05:37
Colefletch33: np.. did you at soem point do a "sudo su"?05:37
fletch33Cole,  dont htink so05:38
Colefletch33: how did you open your terminal?05:38
fletch33Cole, with a shortkut i made on my desktop05:38
ubuntu43eHow am i supposted to make it sun java run?05:38
Colefletch33: do you know what that shortcut points to?05:38
fletch33Cole, cant remeber05:39
pawansnowowl: apt-get install ubuntu-standard may do it05:39
fletch33Cole,  bad typer sorry05:39
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bob_4_a_daypawan get sudoers fixed ?05:39
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fletch33Cole, apps, system tools, root terminal05:40
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Colefletch33: it isn't a problem. it appears that the shortcut creates a terminal as root the super user.. i would suggest using the terminal in Applications-Accessories-Terminal05:40
subbiehey, i setup apache2 and php4, but for some reason instead of displaying PHP pages the browser prompts me to download them.  does anybody know how i could possibly fix this?05:40
ubuntu43eis there any way i can check and make sure java is installed right.. as its not working05:40
fletch33Cole,  and restarting the whole gat apt05:40
pawanbob_4_a_day : I have a default sudoers file, I thought. I'll purge and reinstall it, and try the add again.05:40
Colefletch33: that is the super user one.. with that one if not careful. you can mess your system up. its like typing sudo in front of every command05:40
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The_Isle_of_Marksubbie you have to tell apache to interpret the php05:41
fletch33Cole,  thanks for your help i will try that05:41
Colefletch33: i'd close that window and open up a normal on from the accessories window05:41
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subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: how would i go about doing this?05:41
wwallaceis ubuntu better than kanotix?05:41
Colefletch33: then i have a couple thigns for you to try.. we will fix the permissions on the fiels .. and then hopefully get the application to start05:41
thunderboltanyone have any experience with ubuntu on systemax laptops?05:41
crimsunwwallace: inappropriate question. Use it and discover yourself.05:41
fletch33Cole,  k ready05:41
thunderboltwwallace: YES! *grin*05:41
bob_4_a_daypawan look for your name above that.   sudo will stop searching sudoers at the first line that works with the given command.....  so order is king there.05:41
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie, does httpd.conf have the php module loading?05:42
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Colefletch33: "sudo chown -R root /usr/NX"05:42
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: let me see if i can figure that out05:42
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The_Isle_of_Marksubbie one sec and I'll tell you what it needs05:42
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Sonny_Wertzikficusplanet, are u there?05:42
ubuntu43efuck linux05:42
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ubuntu43eno help05:42
ubuntu43eim trying but no one is helping05:43
pawanbob_4_a_day : ouch. it want's to remove gdm and a few other thngs too. My name only comes up after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL   line.05:43
fletch33Cole,  k got sean@sean05:43
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i dont believe that it has the module loading.05:43
thunderboltubuntu43e: what are you trying to do?05:43
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, ...language pls05:43
ubuntu43ei cant get java to work05:43
xxviiok.. i am getting an error while trying to burn a .cue CD image.. anyone help me with this?05:43
bob_4_a_daypawan group admin ?05:43
Colefletch33: good.. now try the command "sudo chown -R root /usr/NX" if you haven't yet05:43
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ubuntu43ei already have download the deb and another java package from su05:43
thrice`xxvii, you know the .cue isn't the image right? :)05:43
ubuntu43esun05:43
fredforfaenI just uninstalled nvidia-glx and changed drver: "nvidia" to "nv"....changed to my new i686 kernel and followed the howto on nvidia.....it didnt install the nvidia driver for that kernel it installed it on my old kernel...get that05:43
bob_4_a_daythe first user account is in the admin group pawan05:44
ubuntu43eand also i installed everything in terminal and got no errors05:44
ubuntu43ebut no java based game will work05:44
thunderbolthave you checked your shell variables?05:44
fredforfaenwhat to do?05:44
xxviithrice`: right.. it's just a text document that tells the burning software where to split tracks from one huge file05:44
fletch33Cole,  k did that05:44
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, java -version ... what did you get ?05:44
thunderboltyour JAVAPATH and PATH?05:44
Colefletch33: "sudo chgrp -R root /usr/NX"05:44
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie look for a line that says AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml05:44
xxviithrice`: is there a certain way to burn .cue files?05:44
fletch33Cole, y05:44
thrice`xxvii, what are you using to burn?05:44
ubuntu43eI used the wiki unbuntu guide and got the versions it told me to get there05:44
fletch33Cole,  no not that 1 sec05:44
pawanbob_4_a_day : grep pawan /etc/group | grep ^admin      gives: admin:x:109:pawan05:45
xxviithrice`: i've tried k3b (didn't work) and GNOMEbaker05:45
ubuntu43ewhich is 1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin05:45
fletch33Cole,  k done05:45
xxviithrice`: neither worked.. both gave me errors05:45
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bob_4_a_daypawan what i'm saying is move that line up a few notches and it should work.05:45
ubuntu43eand also the sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb05:45
varsendaggerany one use enlightenment, is it cool?05:45
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie, your file should be in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf05:45
thrice`xxvii, and you're *certain* the image is good...?05:45
The_Isle_of_Markor similar05:45
ubuntu43ei installed everything and it doesnt work05:46
bob_4_a_daypawan some place above that line 'admin:x:109:pawan'05:46
ubuntu43eno java game will work05:46
Colefletch33: "ls -l /usr" and then "ls -l /usr/NX" and then "ls -l /usr/NX/bin" and paste then to the pastebin05:46
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, java -version ... does that return you the version you installed ?05:46
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fletch33Cole,  1 sec05:46
Madpilotcool - running "shred" then reformatting a 20Gb drive gets the poor old thing fairly warm... ;)05:46
ubuntu43ewhere do i need to type that at in terminal?05:46
Colefletch33: np05:46
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wickedpuppyubuntu43e, yes ... terminal05:46
cowbudanyone have issues iwth the ubuntu ppc install failing at the timezone config?05:46
fredforfaenanyone?05:46
xxviithrice`: i've hundreds of CDs using .cue files (on Windows).. i've made my own cue files.. i can't find anything wrong with them.. this is my first attempt at trying to burn from cue file on Linux though05:47
bob_4_a_daycole could it be that /usr is x00 perm ?05:47
thrice`xxvii, did you try the bin file ?05:47
ubuntu43ewhat directory do i need to be in ?05:47
Colebob_4_a_day: i think we sorted it out.. gonna have him launch the app after i just verify the changed perms05:47
ubuntu43eto run that command05:47
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, anywhere ... just type that pls05:47
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subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: im sorry, i had to step away from the computer.  i dont believe apache2.conf is loading the module but i dont know how to tell it to do so.05:47
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ubuntu43ei ran it in the firefox plugin directory05:47
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie look for a line that says AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml05:48
ubuntu43eand it says javaclass not found05:48
ubuntu43eand i just installed and ran it there05:48
ubuntu43eI got no errors when i did it05:48
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: oh, actually that is there, i uncommented it then i did an /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then a start but it didn't seem to fix the problem05:48
xxviithrice`: i don't have a bin file for these mixes.. i downloaded mixes off of generationtrance.com (completely free) and they only come with cue files.. is there a way to make a bin file? i've never done it05:48
ubuntu43ei went by this guide   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:48
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, pls lets take it from step 1 ... first .. you installed java .. how ? which java ?05:49
ubuntu43eI followed this guide  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:49
fletch33Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/3050105:49
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie, you need it there, ok if it is there uncomment it05:49
Colexxvii: the bin file has all the data in it.. the cue file is just a how to burn file.05:49
ubuntu43eI downloaded both packages on the desktop05:49
Colefletch33: next time a lower case L is in order.. but since youc an see it.. it must have worked..05:49
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wickedpuppyubuntu43e, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 <--- this line ?05:50
Colefletch33: now try trying "/usr/NX/bin/nxclient"05:50
R0bNycwhy we only have 2.6.12 kernel?05:50
ubuntu43eI didnt do that05:50
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The_Isle_of_Marksubbie do you have apache loading the module?05:50
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, ... then what did you do ?05:50
ubuntu43eand its not that version of java this is a old version05:50
fletch33Cole,  k05:50
xxviiCole: ok.. well, these mixes don't come in any type of archived file format. they come seperately as .mp3 and .cue..05:50
gnesishow can i installa flash player 7 on ubuntu???05:50
ubuntu43eI did what the guide told me to do05:50
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i thought uncommenting that would load the module?  If not then i don't know how to make it load the module05:50
gnesishow can i install flash player 7 on ubuntu???05:51
ubuntu43efirst  chmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin05:51
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, which part of the guide ... pls be more specific ...05:51
wickedpuppysun java part05:51
fletch33Cole,  i cant thank u enough it is working05:51
wickedpuppyk05:51
ubuntu43ethen udo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common05:51
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Colexxvii: ahh ok..  you can just try to use serpentine audio cd  creator with the mp3s?05:51
ubuntu43ethen  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin05:51
ubuntu43esudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb05:51
Colefletch33: np goodluck with that05:51
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie depending on the version it might be loading by default05:51
fletch33Cole, i hope i can soon help others now i just have to figure otu how to use it05:51
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, no errors for all those ?05:51
xxviiCole: ok, i'll give it a shot05:51
ubuntu43enone05:51
pawanbob, I'm going to #paste to paste my sudoers file there. It'd be nice if you looked at it05:51
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i went into the directoy called "mods-enabled" and i saw a php4.conf and a php4.load05:52
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thrice`pawan, pastebin it05:52
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The_Isle_of_Marksubbie, ok good05:52
ubuntu43ethen sudo update-alternatives --config java05:52
drcodeany one mybe have idea why my static route dissaper05:52
drcodeI did route add05:52
Colexxvii: only thing is i don't recall if mp3 support is built in as it is a restricted format. so unless you have already installed those libraries.. i dont' think it will work05:52
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S_HunterQ: what is the minimum specs to run Ubuntu?05:52
ubuntu43eI only got 2 options to choose from05:52
drcodeand after 10 min it boom dissaper05:52
ubuntu43eand choose the 205:52
pawan!ubotu pastebin?05:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:52
Colexxvii: i just don't know.. i haven't tried it myself05:52
ubuntu43ethen sudo mkdir -p /home/username/.mozilla/plugins05:52
xxviiCole: ok, i'll see what happens.. thanks05:53
drcodeno reset or somthing05:53
ubuntu43ethen cd /home/username/.mozilla/plugins05:53
ubuntu43eln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so05:53
ubuntu43esudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/05:53
ubuntu43eand that was it05:53
mac0sxus3rguys I really need help with Synaptic, whenever I try to install/upgrade/remove something it wants me to remove the rest of my apps!05:53
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: there is a line in the php4.load that says "LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so"05:53
fletch33Cole,  1 more ? wil i always have to type a command line to start it or will i be able to make it an option somewhere like in apps05:53
thrice`ubuntu43e, don't paste the whole tutorial here please...we know where it is05:53
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, type ... whereis java05:53
ubuntu43eok05:53
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie does restarting apache give you any errors? like can't find module?05:54
Colefletch33: click "applications" "system tools"  "applications menu edditor"05:54
ubuntu43ejava: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz05:54
ubuntu43eubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$05:54
ubuntu43ethats what i got05:54
Colefletch33 and a program shoudl start05:54
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: nope. if i type /etc/init.d/apache2 start i dont get anything.  but if i go to the deafult index.html its loaded05:54
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: and if i do a stop it stops without a problem05:54
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, /usr/bin/java -version ... what did you get ?05:54
pawanok, pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/489905:54
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fletch33Cole, thanks05:55
xxviiCole: that's not going to work.. it doesn't have any support for .cue files, and there's no way to split up the tracks manually :\05:55
mac0sxus3rcan someone please help me with Synaptic, whenever I try to install/upgrade/remove something it wants me to remove the rest of my apps!05:55
ubuntu43ei got java version "1.4.2"05:55
ubuntu43egij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)05:55
ubuntu43eCopyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.05:55
ubuntu43eThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO05:55
ubuntu43ewarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.05:55
ubuntu43eubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$05:55
Colexxvii: oh its not a bunch of seperate mp3s?05:55
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The_Isle_of_Marksubbie is your will phpinfo(); work05:55
thrice`ubuntu43e, again, dont' paste those things in here05:55
ubuntu43esomething is not right there05:55
thrice`!paste05:55
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:55
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, pls don't paste here ... if more than a couple of lines05:56
Colefletch33: when you create a new entry  the command line would be /usr/NX/bin/nxclient05:56
S_HunterI have a Notebook.  600mhz 64mb ram.  What OS should I run?05:56
ubuntu43eit know it would be that much05:56
bob_4_a_dayfletch33 anything that can be ran from the command line can be set up to start as any other app.  some times it takes making a script but it can be done.05:56
ubuntu43edidnt know05:56
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i tried creating a page that was just phpinfo(); and my browser attempts to download it as well instead of dispalying it05:56
kevogodIs there a way to have Azureus and Eclipse installed without conflict?05:56
Colefletch33: and the name would be whatever you want to call it05:56
xxviiCole: nope.. just one 74 minute .mp3.. that's what i need the .cue file for05:56
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thrice`ok, so you do have java installed05:56
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie stupid question,05:56
thrice`have you restarted firefox?05:56
Colexxvii: can you pastebin what is in the .cue file?05:56
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ubuntu43ei closed all firefox windows05:56
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie, is it a .php file? I know I know05:56
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: yes it is :-\05:56
ubuntu43edo i need to do something else05:56
fletch33Cole,  ok trying that thanks05:57
thrice`ubuntu43e, you made the symlink, right?05:57
xxviiCole: sure, never used pastebin before.. what do i do?05:57
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, its most likely /usr/bin is not in your path ...05:57
ubuntu43eim not sure05:57
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Astxistmy update manager seems to have stalled can anyone help me?05:57
kevogodAzureus wants libswt-gtk-3.1-java and libswt-gtk-3.1-jni but Eclipse wants conflicting libswt3.1-gtk-java and libswt3.1-gtk-jni.05:57
thrice`the ln -s deal05:57
wickedpuppyadd it .. and you be fine .. and your /etc/alternatives is pointing to wrong java05:57
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie dont be offended, I had to ask05:57
mac0sxus3rAstxistL likewise man05:57
ubuntu43eoh i need to run that command in user bin05:57
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: hehe i'm not.  i think maybe apache2 isn't actually stopping when i stop it.05:57
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bob_4_a_dayhmmmm intesting ..... [alt] +[print-screen] +b    very interesting indeed......05:58
thrice`check in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ to see if you "libjava" exists05:58
mac0sxus3rAstxist: how's it stalled?05:58
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie ok how about a file interpretation line in your apache.conf?05:58
thrice`ubuntu43e, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjava*05:58
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i have an entry in /etc/mime.types05:58
Ep|phanywhat codec do i need to watch a streaming video file more specifically a .asx?05:58
Colexxvii: just post the text in the box on the page http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and click send. and then give me the url it sends you 2.. but to open the cue file you can open it in any text editor.. let me know if you need help with that05:58
Astxistops05:58
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie something that begins like <File *.php> or the like?05:58
Astxistctrl-c does not copy text05:58
Astxistdamn it05:58
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i will check hold on05:59
ubuntu43e#flood  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 63 2005-11-23 04:24 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so05:59
bob_4_a_dayAstxist highlight it and point the mouse and dubble/or middle click05:59
ubuntu43eubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$05:59
xxviiCole: nope, i got it.. i've made cue files for DJs' mixes.. k, i'll post that right now05:59
Astxistbob_4_a_day, I canceled it :/05:59
ubuntu43eI got that above05:59
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subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: is it possible that maye i have apache1.4 and apache2 installed?  i'm trying to get mythweb to work.  i just did a stop on /etc/init.d/apache2 and /etc/init.d/apache.  i confirmed the web server is down.  then i did /etc/init.d/apache2 start.  it doesn't give any info back and i can't connect to the webserver06:00
bob_4_a_dayyeah Astxist just telling you how you can copy & paste without keys.06:00
thrice`ubuntu43e, hrm...killall -9 firefox-bin   to make sure all firefox is done (make sure you're not doing naythign important before running :) )06:00
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Astxistbob_4_a_day, k06:00
ubuntu43eok i did that06:01
freakmanI think there's something from with my computer06:01
freakmansomething wrong*06:01
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie do a "locate apachectl" or try apachectl restart from a cli06:01
freakmanis it bad if it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu when you're starting up?06:01
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freakmanand I'm using ubuntu?06:01
keyfitterno06:01
freakmankeyfitter: why is it doing that?06:01
freakmanI want it to say ubuntu :-(06:02
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bob_4_a_dayfreakman did you install kubuntu-desktop ?06:02
keyfitteryou must be using kdm instead of gdm06:02
freakmanyeah06:02
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: the weird thing is, when the download starts it says "you have choesn to open index.php which is a application/x-httpd-php"06:02
bob_4_a_dayfreakman that's why06:02
ubuntu43eI keep getting exception noclass deffound error when trying to play a java based game?06:02
Ep|phanyanyone know what media player plays .asx06:02
ubuntu43eIt still doesnt work06:02
thrice`ubuntu43e, in about:plugins do you see java listed?06:02
freakmanbob_4_a_day: but it wasn't doing that before06:02
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freakmankeyfitter: and I thought I installed gdm06:03
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie that is weird...have you tried google on that one?06:03
freakmaner06:03
freakmanusing*06:03
sethkubuntu43e, that is probably a CLASSPATH problem06:03
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: yeah google has been no help so far :-\06:03
bob_4_a_daybefore you installed kubuntu-desktop freakman ?06:03
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: is there a way to make sure i dont have two apaches installed? like searching apt-get for all installed apache versions?06:03
thrice`ubuntu43e, sorry, i'm out of ideas otherwise; the symlink was ran correctly, so firefox SHOULD be picking it up06:03
thrice`ubuntu43e, try another java game...06:03
xxviiCole: did you get that msg?06:03
l0ckeI am trying to find a file on my desktop through terminal. When I type dir it says desktop but when I do cd desktop it says not found. is cd even the right command?06:03
sethkubuntu43e, do a find (or locate, if your database is up to date) for .jar files.  see if you have .jar files that are in directories that are not in yhour classpath06:04
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ubuntu43eok I will try another06:04
keyfitterfreakman: if you installed kubuntu it will go with the kdm06:04
thrice`keyfitter, it should ask you which you prefer actually...06:04
freakmanyeah...06:04
freakmanbut...06:04
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freakmanit wasn't saying kubuntu before...06:04
freakmanand I had kubuntu-desktop installed06:04
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freakmanhm06:04
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bob_4_a_dayubuntu-desktop is gnome kubuntu-desktop is kde xubuntu-desktop is xfce4 i think  but they are all just plain ole ubuntu.06:04
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asprol0cke: try using cd de-<tab> (autocomplete)06:04
freakmanit must do with the updates I just installed06:04
ubuntu43eim running 5.10 unbuntu06:04
versipolissomone give my a hint why game performace might be so bad? I have an intel 852 chipset that seems to be setup ok but even the 2d side scrollers are unplayable..06:05
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freakmanbob_4_a_day: but I want it to say ubuntu :-(06:05
Colexxvii: yes i did sorry. i don't know of a program that can handle that..06:05
wickedpuppysigh .... ubuntu43e can you try this ... export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin ... then type java -version06:05
freakmannot kubuntu :-(06:05
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Colexxvii: i'm not saying there isn't.. i just never tried to use a cue file like that myself06:05
freakmanI should switch desktop managers?06:05
thrice`wickedpuppy, that shouldn't be necessary..../usr/bin is undoubtaly in his path if he can run firefox06:06
Pablo_Cfor some reason my laptop is shutting down about once a day... just randomly... anyone got any suggestions on how to troubleshoot it... I am a n00b to ubuntu06:06
freakmanbob_4_a_day: should I switch desktop managers?06:06
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie sorry, was afk a sec06:06
ubuntu43eit says its free software06:06
UeuecoyotlCheck ouy number 2 at http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=46 it says "where X = input device number", but which number above that text is the input device number?06:06
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie yeah, you can do that06:06
The_Isle_of_Markapt-get install apt-show-versions06:06
sethkfreakman, you can try it.  if you don't like, switch back.06:06
wickedpuppythrice`, but java isn't ... i am wondering why06:06
xxviiCole: really? k3b and gnomebaker both recognize cue files.. are there different types of cue files?06:06
bob_4_a_dayfreakman look in /etc/*release*  /etc/*issue*    and call it what ever you want.06:06
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ubuntu43ecopyright 2005 free software foundation06:06
ubuntu43ethat is what i get06:07
ubuntu43ethat isnt right06:07
freakmansethk: how do I switch? :-D06:07
ubuntu43ei dont think06:07
Colexxvii: uhh i dunno.. ive just never done that. i've jsut always used standard bin/cue fiels.. so i dont' know what k3b / gnomebaker will do06:07
sethkfreakman, if you install kdm, synaptic will ask you if you want to switch06:07
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie then do an apt-show-versions | grep apache06:07
l0ckeI get a syntax error near unexpected token `newline' when I try cd cd-<tab>06:07
sethkfreakman, I don't remember what it actually does  :)06:07
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: yeah i just did that and look at this06:07
subbieapache/unknown uptodate 1.3.33-806:07
subbieapache2-common/unknown uptodate 2.0.54-5ubuntu206:07
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xxviiCole: otherwise, do you know of a way that i can split up a 70+ minute long .mp3 file into seperate tracks?06:07
freakmanI don't get it though06:07
freakmanI'm using gdm06:07
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: that could defintley be part of the problem i'd say :)06:08
Ep|phanyanyone know how to add the marillat repository?06:08
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie yepper06:08
freakmanbut it says kubuntu in the beginning :-\06:08
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie remove the 1.306:08
The_Isle_of_Markheheh06:08
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: so can i apt-get remove apache ? that would uninstall it correct?06:08
xxviiCole: thanks for lookin into this btw06:08
asprol0cke: I mean start typing desktop, but before you finish hit tab06:08
ubuntu43eIs there another distro that has java support built in?06:08
asproit should autocomplete the name06:08
sethkl0cke, you've created an executable file in your path that begins with cd and has a newline embedded in the name06:08
Pablo_Cfor some reason my laptop is shutting down about once a day... just randomly... anyone got any suggestions on how to troubleshoot it... I am a n00b to ubuntu06:08
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ubuntu43eunbuntu has too many issues06:08
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie no you need to remove by version06:09
Pablo_Cit was fine for about the first month06:09
Colexxvii: hmmm.. no i dont.. i'm actually not much of an audiophile.. i listen to my music but thats about it06:09
sethkPablo_C, step 1 is to see if anything is written into the logs.  start in /var/log/messages06:09
l0ckeit just beeps06:09
Pablo_Cok I will check06:09
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie uh, yes, it should work...disregard the last post06:09
Pablo_Cthanks sethk06:09
Colexxvii: sorry i coudlnt' have been more of a help06:09
sethkubuntu43e, if you can't make it go on ubuntu, you aren't going to get anywhere with any of the other distros either06:09
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: ok well i managed tog et apache 1.3 removed, but now apache 2 seems totally unresponsive when i try to start it :-\06:09
asprowrong spelling then, try capitalising if you arent06:09
xxviiCole: right on, i'll ask on the generationtrance forum.. i'm sure at least one person on there uses Linux.06:09
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie how so?06:10
sethkubuntu43e, also ignoring people when they tell you what is wrong is not a great way to fix a problem.  :)06:10
g00r0nif i use synaptics to install KDE (even though i'm using std. WM - gnome) will i have a choice upon boot to choose kde or gnome?  will installing kde mess anything up in gnome?06:10
ubuntu43ei dont understand why something so simple as enabling java pluging support for firefox is hard06:10
sethkg00r0n, you'll get the same login screen06:10
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: oh! i did /usr/sbin/apache2 and the server started fine!!!  when i tried /etc/init.d/apache2 start it didn't do anything06:10
l0ckei still get cd: DESKTOP: No such file or directory06:10
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie no news is good news...is it serving anyway?06:10
sethkg00r0n, when you click on session, KDE will be there06:10
xxviiCole: no man, you've been a huge help, you've saved me the trouble of wasting hours upon hours of not getting this stuff to work. haha06:10
ubuntu43eI am not ignoring anyone06:10
sethkg00r0n, it won't be your default session06:10
sethkubuntu43e, I told you more than once about your classpath problem06:10
Colexxvii: lol ok. you could always try burning it to a cd with gnomebaker/k3b and then rip it back off06:10
asprois the folder called 'Desktop' linux is case sensitvie06:10
sethkg00r0n, so nothing nasty is going to happen just by installing kde06:10
ubuntu43eyea but i have no idea in hell how to fix that06:11
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The_Isle_of_Marksubbie kill the sbin process and try it again from init06:11
sethkg00r0n, you will (if you install all of it) get a question about whether to use gdm or kdm.  say gdm06:11
pawan_my sudoers file is in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899  - the only change I have made from the default for the machine kewl is to add the line: pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap06:11
asprol0cke: no colon after cd06:11
l0ckeyeah forgot the capital D06:11
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: allthough it will display my index.php which is just phpinfo(); but when i try to go to /mythweb i still get the bizzare trying to download php pages problem06:11
l0ckedoh!06:11
sethkubuntu43e, if that is what's wrong, you can't fix it any other way.06:11
l0ckeit works now06:11
asprolol06:11
pawan_but sudo nmap kewl doesn't run.06:11
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pawan_clues?06:11
ubuntu43eim trying to learn linux so i can install it on some other users computers who keep getting viruses on their window machines06:11
aspro:)06:11
xxviiCole: maybe.. is there any audio software that you think might be able to crop or trim time off of a larger mp3 file?06:12
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: i did killall apache2 =X06:12
ubuntu43esethk what would cause this?06:12
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie did you set your permissions in apache.conf file to allow that folder to run apps?06:12
ubuntu43eI have did nothing06:12
Astxistwell it all seems fine used sudo apt-get upgrade and the package installed this time06:12
freakmandidn't Hobbsee say that basket was a package on universe?06:12
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: no probably not since i haven't a clue how to do that :)06:12
sethkubuntu43e, it's a common problem with java, not on linux particularly but also on windows and mac06:12
Colexxvii: i'm checking in synaptic06:12
Astxisthad to recompile/reinstall my modem drivers though06:12
Pablo_Csethk,  what exactly am I lookin for in the messages?06:12
sethkubuntu43e, what I would do is copy whatever jar files you have into a directory that is definitely in your classpath06:12
ubuntu43eI have never had any problems with java on any windows version i have had06:12
xxviiCole: oh, don't worry about it.. i'll do that. thanks man06:12
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ubuntu43eand i been using it since 199706:13
pawan_actually , sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the sudoers file.06:13
ubuntu43eon the internet06:13
Colexxvii: i don't see one..06:13
xxviiCole: i was just wondering if you knew of anything off the top of your head06:13
zoexiihey, I am having trouble logging in, none of my desktop enviornments want to work.  I get an error with IceTransmkdir.  What can I do?06:13
ubuntu43enot one class problem06:13
sethkubuntu43e, such as where the main java jar files are installed.  If you look at the details in synaptic (which you can see for something you are installing or have already installed) look at the file list for the java VM and see where .jar files are installed06:13
ubuntu43eI have been doing this since 199706:13
ubuntu43eI build my own computers06:13
Colexxvii: freshmeat.net is also your friend when looking for programs.. but they typically aren't packaged quite as nicely06:13
bob_4_a_dayhehhe i've never had any problem with jave either.... i always remove the default install of java, and hmmm no problem   :)06:13
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sethkPablo_C, since your problem is so undefined, it's really hard to say.  just look for errors.  normally there shouldn't be errors in the logs06:14
xxviiCole: alright, i'll check that out, thanks man06:14
ubuntu43eok I will take a look sethk06:14
Colexxvii: np gl06:14
sethkubuntu43e, this is a software configuration problem that has to do only with java06:14
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Pablo_Csethk, can I show you a pastebin?06:14
ubuntu43ewhat are the files installed in the wrong place?06:14
sethkubuntu43e, you could know everything in the universe about computers except java, and have no idea what to do  :)06:14
MandyJoin ##apple06:14
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie sorry, the wife is telling me it is late, and we have a trip tomorrow. I think if you set the permissions in apache.conf and allow the apache user access to execute in the folder it should work06:14
Colexxvii: err there is a package called mp3splt in synaptic.. that is a command line program.. but it might work06:14
sethkubuntu43e, usually they are .jar files06:14
ubuntu43eI understand that06:14
subbieThe_Isle_of_Mark: ill try to figure it out, thanks :)06:15
sethkubuntu43e, I just mean I'm not trying to be insulting or anything06:15
xxviiCole: cool, i'll check it out06:15
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie, sorry06:15
sethkPablo_C, sure, I'll take a look06:15
Colexxvii: its in universe.. not sure if you have taht enabled06:15
The_Isle_of_Marksubbie oops ...your welcome for what it was worth06:15
sethkPablo_C, there is no guarantee that anything is logged, but it's possible so you look06:15
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robotgeekubuntu43e: java -jar file.jar06:15
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sethkubuntu43e, java is its own little world06:15
xxviiCole: yea i have universe06:15
Colexxvii: there is also one for wrapping multiple mp3's together.. just search on mp3.. and you will see some apps that might help06:16
thrice`robotgeek, he's concerned with it's integration into firefox...I think java is not the problem, but with firefox recognizing it06:16
sethkrobotgeek, good idea, I forgot about that06:16
l0cke./toolchain.sh: line 73: gmake: command not found06:16
l0cke./toolchain.sh: line 85: gpatch: command not found06:16
l0cke./toolchain.sh: line 105: svn: command not found06:16
l0ckeERROR: Please make sure you have 'subversion (svn)' installed.06:16
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xxviiCole: k06:16
l0ckehow do I get rid of that error06:16
robotgeekthrice`: are you on x8606:16
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robotgeekl0cke: sudo apt-get install subversion06:16
xxviiCole: thanks again for the help.. i gotta get goin.. later man06:16
thrice`robotgeek, yes, but not on my linux box06:16
ubuntu43eI have been using linux for like only 1 hour06:16
sethkl0cke, subversion is a source code versioning system that is meant as a replacement and improvement to CVS06:16
thrice`ubuntu43e, fun eh :)06:16
l0ckeokay06:16
ubuntu43eit sucks06:17
sethkl0cke, it looks like you should install subversion, although  I don't know whether that makes sense because I don't know what's wrong06:17
sethkl0cke, I can't read fast enough  :)06:17
ubuntu43ethere is no way i can install this on other peoples machines06:17
l0ckeyeah, that's what i thought too06:17
ubuntu43eI would get killed06:17
versipolisanything I can do to optimize game performance? games are unplayable. default xorg.conf is setup with i810 driver for my 852gm chipset. am i missing something?06:17
sethkubuntu43e, you would have to really understand exactly what is going on, which would certainly take a lot of time.  It's not impossible, but it would be tedious to say the least06:17
ubuntu43eit makes the most simple tasks very hard to work06:17
l0ckehuh06:18
l0cke*sigh*06:18
sethkubuntu43e, java, you mean?  yes, lot's of people agree with you about that06:18
thrice`ubuntu43e, just wait...you're still new; this stuff comes second nature after awhile06:18
ubuntu43ei mean linux06:18
thrice`java is a pain though, yes06:18
robotgeekubuntu43e: sorry, but i dunno what you are trying to do06:18
ubuntu43ei dont know either06:18
sethkubuntu43e, linux is actually much easier than the alternatives06:18
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ubuntu43elike bsd06:18
l0ckeyeah, atleast it's not windows06:18
ubuntu43ei bet so06:18
thrice`ubuntu43e, it's not hard, it's new...just give it a little time06:19
ubuntu43eI almost ready to kiss bills ass now06:19
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sethkubuntu43e, if you build the hardware, you can certainly learn the software.  It's not hard, just very arbitrary and capricious06:19
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ubuntu43ei overclock alot06:19
sethkubuntu43e, well, that would be dumb, as his o/s is much much worse.  it's built on top of VMS06:20
ubuntu43ethis machine is a 4gig p406:20
ubuntu43e4ghz p406:20
wickedpuppyubuntu43e, after i learn how to drive honda can i drive f1 without learning anything extra ? after all they are both cars ...06:20
sethkwickedpuppy, not my F1  :)06:20
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pawan_sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the (until-then) sudoers file right after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL    line. clues?06:20
JRlinuxI want to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file, but I keep being asked for a password.   How can I do this?06:20
sethkwickedpuppy, if I had an F1, that is ...06:20
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ubuntu43ei dont know what to look for in the package manager?06:20
versipolisJRlinux, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:20
sethkpawan_, pawan and kewl can execute nmap without providing a password06:21
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versipolisJRlinux, user your password06:21
ubuntu43eim searching java06:21
wickedpuppymy point is knowing how to drive honda doesn't mean you can race in BARHonda Team06:21
ubuntu43ebut i get alot of results06:21
bob_4_a_daysure.    go fast, turn left.   no problem.06:21
JRlinuxversipolis, I thought I tried that, but I will go again.  Thanks.06:21
l0ckedon't crash06:21
sethkbob_4_a_day, there is some thing called a clutch, or something06:21
sethkbob_4_a_day, I think you have to step on it occasionally06:21
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pawan_sethk : whoa. kewl is the name of my box.06:21
bob_4_a_dayoh yeah that is in most hondas too06:21
bob_4_a_dayand a break06:22
l0ckealso, i heard of something called a brake, but they don't use it much06:22
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sethkpawan_, hey, I didn't put the line in there.  :)06:22
Pablo_Csethk, http://pastebin.ca/30505 will you please take a look and see if you see anything out of order??06:22
sethkPablo_C, sure, hold on.06:22
Badm4nevening alllllllllllllllllllllll ( GMT +7 indonesia Time WIB )06:22
zoexiican I get some help please?  I cannot start an xsession.  my ~/.xsession-errors file lists a bunch of gunk about IceTrans.  What is IceTrans and how do I make it work again?06:23
ubuntu43eI dont see anything i package manager06:23
naliothzoexii: in a terminal, type "rm ~/.ICEauthority"06:23
ubuntu43eI thought a debian based distro was supposed to get rid of these problems06:23
bob_4_a_dayzoexii what did you do before it quit working ?06:24
pawan_sethk: um. I must be rtfm-ing wrong. Let me check.06:24
zoexiinalioth, cool, will try.06:24
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sethkpawan_, I might be wrong also06:24
naliothzoexii: use a failsafe terminal06:24
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Pablo_Cok thanks sethk06:24
ubuntu43eI guess most people just dont run anything java based06:24
sethkPablo_C, I don't see anything terribly unusual there.06:24
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Pablo_Cyep... I dont either06:24
sethkubuntu43e, it isn't java, it's java in the browser, that is the problem06:24
Pablo_C:\06:24
sethkPablo_C, any clues at all?06:24
Pablo_Cnot at all06:25
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ubuntu43ei cant even find sun java on this computer06:25
ubuntu43eafter i installed it06:25
sethkPablo_C, it could well be hardware.  a memory problem can do that.06:25
Pablo_CI recompiled my madwifi drivers though it might be that06:25
ubuntu43efor all I know it might not even be installed06:25
pawan_sethk : looks like it. I get syntax errors if I remove kewl. I need to keep kewl ;-)06:25
thrice`ubuntu43e, java --version works right?06:25
sethkubuntu43e, look for the java virtual machine, which is a file named java.  Not all that hard to find06:25
thrice`if so, then it's installed06:25
sethkpawan_, then I'm probably wrong about the syntax06:25
sethkpawan_, it may just mean pawan on kewl, no password to run ntp06:26
ubuntu43eI see jamve is that it06:26
sethkpawan_, which wouldn't be a terribly strange thing to be in the file06:26
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ubuntu43eI do a search for java on synaptic06:26
zoexiinalioth, right on, it works... thanks.  how does this sort of thing break in the first place?06:26
ubuntu43eand get alot of results06:26
ubuntu43eI see nothing named plain java06:27
Pablo_Cubuntu43e, try sudo update-alternatives --config java06:27
robotgeekubotu: tell ubuntu43e about java06:27
ubuntu43ewill do06:27
pawan_sethk: yup. and it doesn't work. It prompts me for a password. This is a default sudoers file as far as I can see.06:27
Pablo_Cthat is what I had to do to sort a java problem I had06:27
nalioth_zZzzoexii: you (or someone) opened nautilus with superuser privelges06:27
bob_4_a_daypawan_ still errors with your sudoers ?06:27
pawan_bob_4_a_day : yup. pasted it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/489906:27
thrice`robotgeek, he's been through it06:27
zoexiiI see.06:28
sethksee if there are any processes running that have the sudoers file open.  they may be using a cached version and not see updates immediately06:28
pawan_bob_4_a_day : just keeps prompting for a password06:28
ubuntu43eI get 2 versions when I run that command06:28
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ubuntu43e/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.006:28
ubuntu43e*+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java06:28
pawan_do I need to relogin or something for sudo to work?06:28
ubuntu43eis that right?06:28
robotgeekubuntu43e: use the link to install sun java06:29
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Pablo_Cubuntu43e, you do not have sun java installed06:30
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ubuntu43eI went thru the guide  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:30
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ubuntu43eno errors06:31
ubuntu43eSo I should see 3 options if it was installed?06:31
Pablo_C  Selection    Alternative06:31
Pablo_C-----------------------------------------------06:31
Pablo_C      1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.006:31
Pablo_C +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java06:31
Pablo_C*     3        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java06:31
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ubuntu43ethanks pablo06:32
Pablo_Csure06:32
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ubuntu43emine isnt even installed06:32
ubuntu43eI dont understand why As i went thru the guide06:32
ubuntu43eand got no errors06:32
JRlinuxversipolis, it worked, and my Debian installation is back.  Thanks.06:33
ubuntu43eI followed all the steps06:33
Chousukeubuntu43e: did you install the .deb you got?06:33
Chousuke(I assume the guide used make-jpkg)06:34
ubuntu43esudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb06:34
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ubuntu43ei did that06:34
Chousukehmm06:34
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cozhello all06:34
ubuntu43eshould I have done something else06:34
Chousukedoesn't it create other debs too?06:35
coz I don't know why I can't keep this in min but how do you install a .deb package again?06:35
Chousukelike java-common or something.06:35
Chousukecoz: dpkg -i06:35
cozdahhh06:35
cozthanks06:35
sethkubuntu43e, no, that looks ok.  why not search for sun-j2re in synaptic, and see what happens when synaptic tries to install it06:35
sethkubuntu43e, you see, you actually do know what to search for06:35
ubuntu43eok06:36
ubuntu43edidnt find anything06:37
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bob_4_a_daypawan_ you got it yet ?06:37
sethkubuntu43e, hmm.  j2re means java version 2 runtime environment06:37
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sethkubuntu43e, and 1.5.1 is the version06:37
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pawan_got what06:38
Ep|phanyanyone know how i can add the marillat repository ?06:38
bob_4_a_daypawan_ you try  'pawan   kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap'   that should the syntax error and parse problem06:38
ubuntu43ei searched that also didnt find anything06:39
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bob_4_a_daypawan_ let me know if it doesn't work.... k06:39
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pawan_bob_4_a_day : still prompting06:41
bob_4_a_dayhmm that is odd06:41
bob_4_a_daywhen you type hostname it does say kewl doesnt it06:42
bob_4_a_daymaybe try localhost06:42
pawan_I have no syntax error with pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap    btw06:42
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bob_4_a_daylocalhost should always be localhost.06:43
bob_4_a_dayk but it is prompting for passwd ?06:43
pawan_I did the pawan   kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap      line, but am unsure what it does.06:43
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pawan_hostname gives kewl. Lemme try localhost and localhost.localdomain too.06:44
bob_4_a_dayyeah06:44
pawan_bob_4_a_day : prompts for password with kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap    , yes.06:44
ubuntu43ei might have it06:44
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OrbordeWhat's the command line name of the Gnome volume adjusting applet?06:45
yignome-volume-properties06:46
bob_4_a_daygno[tab]  and see what comes up.06:46
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Orbordebob_4_a_day: About 23472346784263873642873 things, sadly.06:46
Orbordeyi: Thanks.06:46
bob_4_a_dayhehhe sounds right....06:47
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Orbordeyi: Sorry, that's not what I meant. :) . I meant the SOUND volume control.06:47
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bnDcan someone help me out?06:48
thrice`bnD, nope, sorry06:48
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bnDi am attempting to burn mp3s to audio cd with gnome baker 'plugin for mp3 is installed'06:48
bnDheh @ thrice`06:48
thrice`:)06:48
bob_4_a_dayto exit type /exit  or /quit buddy06:48
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bob_4_a_dayerr bnD06:48
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bnDbob2, i dont know what plugin i need06:48
l0ckedoes anyone know if linux will reconize a psp?06:49
bnDbob_4_a_day, i mean, sorry06:49
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bob_4_a_dayi did that too bnD :)06:49
bob_4_a_day!mp306:49
uboturumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:49
pawan_arrrgh! I hate linux! It doesn't work! I'm going back to windows! NOW!06:49
bnDah, thanks ;)06:49
bnDpawan_, EW06:49
bnDonly problem06:49
Amaranthubotu: no, mp3 is <reply> to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:49
ubotuAmaranth: okay06:49
bnDi cant access www right now06:49
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bnDdamnation06:50
bnDno pkg from synaptic?06:50
l0ckehm....linux doesn't reconize my psp :(06:50
yiOrborde: oh, gnome-volume-control06:50
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bob_4_a_daypawan_ localhost didn't work either ehh ?06:50
holycowpawan_, rofl06:50
holycow:)06:50
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APACHE^_^hola06:50
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ubuntu43eok i got java installed now!06:50
c0rrupthello, how can i remove xorg from running everytime i boot- to just have a console login?06:50
ubuntu43ei did all of those steps for nothing!06:51
thrice`ubuntu43e, !!!!!!106:51
thrice`nice work06:51
holycowpawan_, congrats you just figured out the best way to get help ina linux channel06:51
holycowhehe06:51
Razor-Xl0cke: I wouldn't doubt that for a minute06:51
holycowpawan_, so whats the deal?06:51
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ubuntu43eall I had to do was this 1 command06:51
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pawan_bob_4_a_day : nope. beats me. I'll check the setup on my debian box and see what works.06:51
thrice`ubuntu43e, which command?06:51
bob_4_a_dayc0rrupt remove the symlink to gdm in /etc/rc2.d/06:51
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Razor-XSony is so wrapped up in proprietary heaven that they'ld rather die than make their protocol generic06:51
ubuntu43ei cant tell because now firefox wont run.. lol06:51
c0rruptbob_4_a_day, how?06:51
ubuntu43eand that command was in a link i had bookmarked on firefox06:52
bob_4_a_daywell i would just 'sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/*gdm* '  but you can do it any way you like.06:52
pawan_holycow: sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the (until-then) sudoers file right after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL    line. This is on my box, kewl. clues? full sudoers file in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/489906:52
ubuntu43ei redid the last part of the guide .. the part about firefox plugin and stuff06:52
thrice`press the up arrow in a terminal to show past commands06:52
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c0rrupti dont know of any ways06:52
uguyHi all, got a boot problem... as my only lilo.conf entry, I had an initrd image with an invalid "root=" entry pointing to an external HD not accessible at boot time. I thought the root= entry wasn't used until after the initial ramdisk initialization files are executed, but I'm not getting that far. At boot I see "RAMDISK: compressed image found at block 0." then "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1)06:52
ubuntu43enow firefox wont run..06:52
bob_4_a_daypawan_ wait i see it.06:53
pawan_holycow : it's a default sudoers file otherwise, as far as I know.06:53
bob_4_a_dayyou are adding an arg.06:53
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c0rruptbob_4_a_day, how do you make links?06:53
ubuntu43ebut when i ran the  udo update-alternatives --config java06:53
holycowhow did you edit the sudoers file?06:53
ubuntu43eI got 3 options06:53
holycowhopefully not with a text editor06:53
bob_4_a_dayc0rrupt ln -s blah to.blah06:53
bnDcan someone tell me what to do without sending me to the restrictedformats page? i cant browse the web atm :/06:53
bob_4_a_daypawan_ you are typing  sudo nmap kewl ?06:54
thrice`bnD, well, you'll likely needp ackages from the web anyways :(06:54
bnDthrice`, damnation ;P06:54
ubuntu43eI got the same options as pablo posted06:54
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ubuntu43ei selected 306:54
pawan_bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument06:54
holycowpawan_, if you edited it with a text editor you are going to have problems06:54
c0rruptbob_4_a_day, im actually using kubuntu06:54
c0rruptso would i remove kdm?06:54
thrice`bnD, yes :(  you need a gstreamer plugin for mp3 support06:54
ubuntu43enow firefox doesnt load06:55
pawan_holycow : I used visudo throughout, as far as I am aware.06:55
bnDthrice`, i thought i did already, weird06:55
bnDoh, thats my laptop06:55
bnDshite06:55
thrice`=\06:55
bnDexcuse the language06:55
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holycowpawan_, weird, that looks ok to me ...06:55
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skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
ubuntu43ei get java installed and stupid firefox dies just my luck06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
dbob_4_a_aypawan_ sorry i got disconnected.06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
Razor-Xskrewler: ....06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
jesseman_rofl06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
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skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
jesseman_spambots for the win!06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
Razor-Xyay!06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:55
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:56
Razor-X /ignore is awesome06:56
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:56
pawan_bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument06:56
skrewler21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp06:56
Astxister06:56
skrewlersry06:56
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thrice`Seveas, around?06:56
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dbob_4_a_ayyou are calling    "/usr/bin/nmap kewl"   but you have the command "/usr/bin/nmap " in the sudoers.  you must have all args....  :)06:56
jesseman_ban please06:56
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sethkc0rrupt, don't remove it, just change your configuration to not use it.06:56
Agrajagis mono horribly broken on amd64 or something?06:57
holycowso you see pawan_ its all your fault afterall06:57
holycow-_-06:57
holycow*giggle*06:57
sethkAgrajag, what are you seing?06:57
bnDhmm, apparently i could do it by grabbing k3b and k3b-mp3 something or rather06:57
bnD;D06:57
bnDthanks guys06:57
bnDnight06:57
Agrajagseing?06:57
c0rruptsethk, how..06:57
Agrajaguseing?06:57
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rohanhi all06:57
AgrajagI'm trying to run muine06:57
sethkAgrajag, what is it doing that makes you think it is broken?06:57
c0rruptthankfully i made a backup of it before i removed it06:57
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intelikeypawan_ sorry i didn't catch that eariler....06:58
rohani am having problem installin a gdm theme06:58
rohanhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2903206:58
rohanthis theme06:58
AmaranthNext time someone is acting up say "!ops"06:58
sethkAgrajag, or, what is it doing wrong?06:58
Agrajagit's doing nothing but eat cpu cycles and memory06:58
rohanits says it is not a tar.gz archive06:58
rohanwhereas it is.06:58
rohani tried "file"06:58
rohanand utarrring the file manually06:58
rohanwhen i run gdmsetup from console, the error i get is06:58
intelikeynow i can uninstall sudo   :)06:58
sethkAgrajag, it's not terribly efficient, but it does better than that for me  :)  But I don't have that hardware here to see if it is different there06:58
rohan/bin/tar: Error in writing to standard output06:58
rohan/bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:58
l0ckehttp://www.askdavetaylor.com/sony_psp_connected_to_linux_systems.html *sigh*06:58
rohanstrande06:59
rohan*strange06:59
sethkAgrajag, I think I would have heard, though06:59
Agrajagyeah, it worked fine on i38606:59
sethkrohan, full disk, almost certainly06:59
AgrajagI just installed amd64 and it's just spinning its wheels06:59
Agrajagoh well06:59
rohansethk: lol, 4gb free06:59
sethkrohan, writing to standard output?06:59
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sethkrohan, sorry, I didn't read all of it06:59
rohanyes06:59
rohanstrange..06:59
sethkrohan, usually when you see that, and you have a compressed tar file, something is going wrong in the decompression07:00
sethkrohan, when you decompress with tar it is really just shorthand for07:00
sethkrohan, something like:   gunzip whatever.tar.gz | tar xf -07:00
sethkrohan, and xf - means extract from standard out07:00
ubuntu43edamnit firefox doesnt work any more I have reintalled it with the package manager and it still doesnt work!'07:00
sethkrohan, and xf - means extract from standard in07:00
l0ckehow do I get out of a directory again? is it like cd..07:01
Amaranthsethk: tar xvjf foo.tar.gz07:01
rohansethk: but how will gdmsetup recognize it ?07:01
sethkrohan, sorry.  in for extract, out for create07:01
ubuntu43eIt wont load07:01
sethkAmaranth, right.  that is  gunzip foo.tar.gz | tar xf -07:01
rohansethk: file-roller shows up the files correctly07:01
intelikeypawan_ that is the reason that the ub team desided on sudo for the default root access.  you 'can' set it up to allow very specific commands,  which is configured properly would be very secure.   problem is nearly no one configures it.07:01
Agrajagaha, fixed it. <3 strace07:01
N6REJcan anyone help me with a strange partitoin problem?07:01
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thrice`ubuntu43e, remove your ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla* dir07:01
sethkrohan, yes, it should.  try decompressing the tar file separately.  It might do nothing, but it's worth a try as it's easy to do07:01
varsendaggerN6REJ, what up?07:02
rohansethk: i did gunzip on it. i now have a tar file.07:02
intelikeyN6REJ tell us about your strange problem07:02
glyn_how do I add multiverse repositories?07:02
Agrajagrohan: you're supposed to use tar07:02
Amaranth!repos07:02
sethkrohan, ok, and what happens?07:02
ubotufrom memory, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:02
thrice`glyn, uncomment from your /etc/apt/sources.list07:02
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Agrajagtar xzf <file>.tar.gz07:02
rohanAgrajag: yes, but still gdmsetup is not recognizing it.07:02
l0ckeso how do i get to the lower directory? I thought it was cd..07:02
rohansethk: the same error07:02
varsendaggerN6REJ, are you still here07:02
Agrajagoh, ok07:02
intelikeycd ..07:02
glyn_the adding repositories how to doesn't really tell me multiverse..or maybe I'm just stupid right now07:02
N6REJhey Intelikey: ok, I've been working on it for hours as you know... I've figured out a couple of things...  1) IF I put the mount point back to /usr/local/mysql it works!07:02
sethkAgrajag, xzf from the .gz, or xf from the .tar is the same07:03
l0ckeduh, thanks07:03
N6REJif I use the mount move command and try to move it again to /var/lib/mysql it fails!07:03
sethkrohan, that is very odd.07:03
Agrajagsethk: yeah yeah, didn't see what he was trying to do07:03
sethkrohan, you might strace it, see what is actually happening07:03
N6REJit will ONLY work in /usr/local/mysql07:03
sethkAgrajag, neither did I, for a while  :)07:03
sethkAgrajag, in fact I'm still not sure I understand what is really going on07:03
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N6REJalso, when e2fsck is running it doesn/t see it as /usr/local/mysql it sees it as /dev/hda6 even though all the other partitions are seen by names.07:04
sethkrohan, let's back up, because I'm definitely confused after all this.  give us the command you are doing and the error.  again.07:04
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intelikeyN6REJ unmount it and 'sudo ln -s /var/lib/mysql /usr/local/mysql '   badabing they are the same mount point.07:04
sethkrohan, so we are all talking about the same thing, at least07:04
l0ckehmm...making files is boring....07:04
l0ckeso is compliing07:04
rohansethk: i am trying to install a theme using "gdmsetup"07:04
intelikeywell rm  /usr/local/mysql first so it don't just error out.07:04
N6REJvarsendagger: the problem is when I installed the system I put a partitoin for /usr/local/mysql for the data and then discovered it lives in /var/lib/mysql07:05
N6REJintelikey: yeah, thats the only solution I know for now, but I wonder why it doesn't work?07:05
sethkrohan, ok, and what are you typing, and what are you seeing?07:05
rohansethk: and it is not recognizing a .tar.gz file07:05
varsendagger-- N6 sorry don't know07:05
sethkrohan, ok, but more specifically?07:05
rohansethk: its a gui program. gdmsetup.07:05
rohansethk: wait a sec.07:05
N6REJneither does anyone else LOL07:05
intelikeyN6REJ now don't get me started lie'ing about why..... you'll never hear the end of it...07:05
rohan/bin/tar: Error in writing to standard output07:06
rohan/bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now07:06
sethkrohan, ok, then strace will help you.  strace (with all the right options) will tell you everything the gui program is actually doing.07:06
rohanand on gui i get error that file is not a .tar.gz archive07:06
sethkrohan, but wait07:06
sethkrohan, error writing to standard output07:06
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sethkrohan, are you sure it isn't writing onto a different partition that is full?07:06
N6REJIntelikey: lol I hear ya... there's a new mount command that is supposed to make this work easy...   mount --move olddir newdir     but that didn't work either07:06
rohanits a gdm theme for warty. does it make a difference ? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2903207:06
intelikeybut N6REJ using a symlink will solve it and keep every thing where it is "supposed" to be.07:06
rohansethk: no. i have only one partition. /07:06
N6REJyeah, thats what I'm going to do for now... brb.07:07
rohanmaybe i need to reboot :(07:07
sethkrohan, we'll have to strace it, then.07:07
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Godconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***07:07
sethkrohan, can't hurt.  probably won't help, but what the hell ...07:07
rohani think i will reboot.07:07
rohanthe magic windows way :D07:07
glyn_thrice`:what do I uncomment?07:07
intelikey!build-essential07:07
ubotuintelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?07:07
rohanbrb07:07
GodWindows things usually don't fix linux things.07:07
intelikey!info build-essential07:07
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB07:07
rohanGod: :P07:07
sethkGod, you are betting that in ubuntu?  you usually only see that on older systems.07:08
thrice`glyn, the lines you wish to use :)07:08
sethkGod, no way that glib is not installed07:08
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Godsethk, I'm trying to compile a media player better than mplayer because my music is high bitrate.07:08
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OrbordeGod: Not on my system...07:08
Godsethk, Also, It's just an old version07:08
sethkGod, oh, it wants glib version 1, and you have version 207:09
crimsunGod: why would the media player used have anything to do with the bitrate at which your music is encoded?07:09
Godcrimsun, mplayer is playing them at low. It's bothering me.07:09
intelikeyinstall build-essential07:09
sethkcrimsun, it has to do with whether it can play the higher rate07:09
glyn_I uncommented the multiverse line07:09
crimsunhuh?07:09
glyn_and I still can't find package gstream0.8-plugins-multiverse for mp3s07:10
thrice`glyn, ok; then sudo apt-get update to update your repos07:10
crimsunwhy would mplayer not be able to play something of a high bitrate?07:10
GodI don't know07:10
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GodDon't ask me07:10
glyn_still can't find it seems like the instructions are broken07:10
GodBut it's gross sounding.07:10
GodAnd I like my disney music played well.07:10
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crimsunGod: what format are we talking about here?07:10
GodYou heard it. God listens to Disney music.07:10
GodMP3.07:10
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glyn_it updated the multiverse07:10
intelikeyglyn apt-cache search gstream07:10
rohansethk: rebooted :)07:10
crimsunGod: and what bitrate?07:10
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glyn_but I still get the same error07:11
thrice`gstreamer0.8-MAD i believe is mp3 support07:11
Godcrimsun, I don't know. I think 192 or something.07:11
crimsunlibmad can process mp3s of virtually any bitrate, even ones > 64007:11
kapputuhow do I minimize a fullscreen window while using rdesktop?07:11
Godlibmad?07:11
crimsunGod: the MAD library07:11
intelikey[alt] +[tab]   ?07:12
rohansethk: doesnt work.07:12
ookamiyou know what i hate the most... helping someone that is doing other things at the same time rather than focusing on the problem they requested to get solved.07:12
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Godcrimsun, Where is it? Like..what's the media thingy called?07:12
subbieis there any chance somebody here has been able to get nuvexport to run in ubuntu?07:12
rohanoh hel! now i pressed ctrl-s and suspended a vt.. how do i unsuspend it ?07:12
Amaranthfg07:12
intelikeyyou aint kiddin' ookami07:12
intelikeyfg   ?07:13
ookamiis it possible to do remote assistance type help in ubuntu? ive been trying to help my sis set up her gyach... but it seems its not going to progress unless i show her hands on07:13
crimsunGod: ..."media thingy"?07:13
rohanAmaranth: fg from where ?07:13
intelikeyor that only for ^Z07:13
rohananother vt ?07:13
Godcrimsun,  To play MP3's..What is the command?07:13
kapputuhow do I minimize a fullscreen window while using rdesktop?07:14
Amaranthrohan: I think i misunderstood you.07:14
crimsunGod: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad and/or mpg321?07:14
rohanAmaranth: ok.07:14
rohan:(07:14
rohanlost a vt07:14
Godcrimsun, I will in just one sec.07:14
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intelikeyls07:14
intelikeysvr07:14
glyn_thanks mad worked07:15
Godcrimsun, It says "broken packages"07:15
kapputuany help with rdesktop guys?07:15
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latonehmmmm07:15
latonecool I made it somewhere LOL07:15
ookami1.5 hours late... setting up gyach should not take 1.5 hours. if only she would focus.07:15
crimsunGod: so why does it say that? What have you tried to install before?07:15
Godcrimsun, I haven't installed much be fore. This is like my 3rd login to ubuntu ever.07:16
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crimsunGod: but you have broken packages? Paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:17
subbieis anybody here using MythTV and know how to make .NUV files into something more useful07:17
intelikeylol i wish you wouldn't have asked that ^S question   :)07:17
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Godcrimsun, Pasted.07:18
intelikeyso how do you resume from a susspended console  ?07:18
crimsunGod: url?07:18
Godcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4903 ?07:18
ajmitch_intelikey: ^Q07:18
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klanderdoes ubuntu come with cd burning software ?07:18
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rohanklander: apt-get install gnomebaker07:18
rohanor k3b07:18
N6REJIntelikey: well, here goes reboot 34252334328979 tonight!07:19
crimsunGod: is the main repository enabled?07:19
Godcrimsun, I would think so.07:19
R0bNyci want to get kde 3.5 for dapper07:19
R0bNychow can i07:19
crimsunGod: apt-cache policy libmad007:19
intelikeyis that alllllllllllllllllllll07:19
crimsunGod: (onto paste.)07:19
latonehow would I get my dhcp ip address?07:19
ajmitch_intelikey: hm?07:19
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kantuterorist[wowhoaw07:19
N6REJlool07:19
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N6REJFAILED!07:20
emexiv gt a prob installing ubuntu can i ask here?07:20
N6REJgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr07:20
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intelikeyyeah it works ajmitch_ i just never used suspend before.... only ^Z07:20
N6REJcrimsun HELP!07:20
_native_wohahahaha!07:20
crimsunuh?07:20
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Godcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d490407:20
moccahAny one here knows what to do with at gpg error?07:20
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ajmitch_N6REJ: what's breaking?07:21
intelikeyN6REJ did you symlink the two mount points ?     and tell it to use the one in /usr ?    and it still don't work ?07:21
statickaoswhen i do apt-get upgrade it lists some packages that are held back. how could i make it upgrade those also?07:21
N6REJwhen I first installed breezy server, I made a /usr/local/mysql partition for the mysql database data.  I have tried till I'm blue in the face and it won't move the mount point.07:21
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_native_moccah; yo cd /var/lib/apt/ and rm -rf lists07:21
N6REJlet me look intelikey: I'm getting flustered07:22
crimsunGod: you don't have main enabled, just as I mentioned earlier07:22
MrFartsN6REJ, eh ?07:22
rohanah well.. did it07:22
Godcrimsun, Where do I enable it?07:22
N6REJI think the symlink is backwards!   /usr/local/mysql -> /var/lib/mysql07:23
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pawan_bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument07:23
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MrFartsN6REJ, so remove the symlink07:23
crimsunGod: are you using GNOME?07:23
intelikeycrimsun i told N6REJ just a bit ago to just make /usr/local/mysql a symlink to the mount point in var where he wanted it mounted.....     but i do not know mysql  so that may have been bad guess work....07:23
Godcrimsun,  Yes.07:23
crimsunGod: System> Administration> Synaptic> Settings> Repositories> Add07:23
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pawan_intelikey: yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument07:23
ajmitch_N6REJ: do (did) you have you important data in mysql?07:24
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N6REJajmitch no, not right now.07:24
JesusGod: is that you, father ?07:24
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N6REJmaybe a week ago LOL07:24
GodJesus, Yes, my son07:24
Godcrimsun, Alright..what do I add?07:24
_native_jesus was not gods son.07:24
ajmitch_N6REJ: then you could change the mount point in /etc/fstab to mount the partition on /var/lib/mysql & recreate the databases?07:24
AmaranthOk, this is going a bit too far...07:24
intelikeypawan_ the command in the sudoers file must be exactly like the command you type less the leading sudo07:24
God_native_, In your religion he isn't.07:24
Jesus_native_, he was according to christian mythology07:24
crimsunGod: the top checkbox.07:24
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N6REJajmitch NOPE fails everytime07:24
Godcrimsun, It's checked.07:25
AmaranthAny and all religious debate will result in excessive banning.07:25
ajmitch_N6REJ: saying what fails would help :)07:25
_native_w00t!07:25
bluebirdIs there a way to redirect STDOUT to a file, but still have it output to STDOUT?  I'd like to log a script's output, but also display it in the term it's running in.07:25
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moccah_native_, thanks a bunch:D07:25
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_native_bluebird; yes07:25
N6REJajmitch IF in /etc/fstab /dev/hda6 = /usr/local/mysql then all is well.  IF I change it to /var/lib/mysql it fails on reboot07:25
crimsunGod: please update, then07:25
N6REJwill not mount07:25
_native_moccah; it worked? ;p07:25
N6REJbut will mount manually07:26
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moccah_native_, it removed some gpg errors:P07:26
intelikeypawan_ you can have multipul commands on that line in sudoers if you need them.     e.g.    nmap,nmap kewl,nmap blah    better check the seperator tho07:26
pawan_intelikey : so I type nmap as root, I get the options. I type sudo nmap and I get a password prompt, which I should not I think.07:26
ajmitch_N6REJ: can you give more info apart from 'fails'? error messages?07:26
moccah_native_, got only one left :P07:26
_native_moccah; do you get any errors now?07:26
bluebird_native_: Would you be so kind as to tell me how?  =)07:26
N6REJajmitch, not that I know of, where do I look?  I just flat refuses to automount07:26
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ajmitch_N6REJ: and how were you mounting manually?07:26
intelikeypawan_ what does the line in sudoers look like now ?07:26
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pawan_intelikey: um. so I should put in sudo /usr/bin/nmap then? odd. Lemme try07:27
Godcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d490507:27
ajmitch_N6REJ: use a pastebin to show me your /etc/fstab07:27
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moccah_native_, got one...from cipherfunk.org ...07:27
N6REJk07:27
rohanin the file selection dialog box, how do i view hidden folders ?07:27
pawan_sudo /usr/bin/nmap doesn't do it either.07:27
pawan_and sudoers file is still like in pastebin.07:27
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intelikeypawan_ no not sudo   just what follows it...   everything that follows it.07:27
crimsunGod: either use Synaptic to update, or close Synaptic then use apt-get07:27
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N6REJajmitch_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4906 this works, but mysql puts its data in /var/lib/mysql not /usr/local/mysql07:28
intelikeypawan_ also do a 'sudo which nmap '  and make sure the address is /usr/bin   that will affect it to07:28
_native_bluebird; its in the friendly manual ;]  at lines 118907:29
crimsunyou don't need sudo which, just which suffices07:29
ookamiis remote desktop very unsecure to have running?07:29
_native_bluebird; or man bash | grep redirection07:29
_native_bluebird; or man bash | grep redirect07:29
bluebird_native_: I'm not sure what you mean by "lines 1189", but I asked in #debian and they told me about "tee"...thanks07:29
ajmitch_N6REJ: right, if you change that to /var/lib/mysql & put it *after* the line that mounts /var.. you might have better luck07:29
pawan_intelikey : I seem to be missing your point. Or vice versa ;-) sudo nmap without an argument should work if sudoers just has /usr/bin/nmap      (no args)07:29
N6REJOH!07:29
N6REJok, let me try that!07:29
ajmitch_N6REJ: since /var/lib/mysql won't exist as a mountpoint before /var is mounted07:29
Godcrimsun, It works now. Thanks07:30
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_native_bluebird; do man bash at the bottom it reports what line your on in the man page.07:30
intelikeyN6REJ which should be ok if /usr/local/mysql is a link to  /var/lib/mysql  ?  ^^^07:30
l0ckemake install on subversion isn't working :(07:30
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N6REJOMG!! your kidding thats ALL ???07:30
N6REJno intelikey, it fails!07:30
pawan_intelikey : sudo which nmap is going to work on which.07:30
ajmitch_intelikey: no, it'd have to be the other way round to work07:30
lightbrightmy friend cant run Ubuntu now, it says something about his /home is missing! If he deleted his whole /home, does he need to reinstall everything , or is there another solution?07:30
Godcrimsun, Do you know what the media player I should use is called?07:30
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crimsunGod: did you reenable the main repo?07:31
klanderhow do i write to my ntfs partition from ubuntu ?07:31
bluebird_native_: thanks07:31
Amaranth!captive07:31
ubotuhmm... captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.07:31
Godcrimsun, yeah07:31
l0ckemkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/apr': Permission denied07:31
Amaranthklander: Appearently uou don't.07:31
l0ckehow to fix?07:31
ajmitch_N6REJ: I'd suggest moving the data out of /var/lib/mysql before you mount it, and back in afterwards07:31
Godcrimsun, I ran the apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:31
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N6REJok... let me do that now.07:31
N6REJone moment please07:32
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ajmitch_hey viviersf07:32
moccahlightbright,: you can boot up as root, and set a new /home partition07:32
intelikeypawan_ ????<pawan_> intelikey : sudo which nmap is going to work on which.  ????07:32
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Godcrimsun, I just did mpg32107:32
viviersflo ajmitch_07:32
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intelikeyhuh ?07:32
l0ckehow do i get rid of a premission denied error?07:32
lightbrightmoccah: how can you boot as root?  I thought root was disabled07:32
pawan_intelikey : 'sudo which nmap' is going to have 'sudo' work on 'which'.07:32
intelikeypawan_ yes07:32
moccahbah, yeah.. then you can boot using either a small07:33
lightbrightmoccah: you trolling?07:33
intelikeyand tell the path so you can be sure it is /usr/bin/nmap that you are calling....07:33
Amaranthsudo sh -c 'some commands here' if you're having problems running things with sudo07:33
OrbordeWhat happens if I delete ~/.Xauthority?07:33
moccahlightbright, i came to close to the enter key :p07:33
crimsunGod: so in a Terminal, mpg321 /name/of/file.mp307:33
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pawan_intelikey : I seem to be missing your point. Or vice versa ;-) 'sudo nmap' without an argument should work if sudoers just has /usr/bin/nmap      (no args), but it does not work. It (sudo nmap) still prompts for a password07:33
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Godcrimsun, Yeah I got it playing now. Thanks. =)07:33
AmaranthOrborde: Bad Things.07:33
moccahlightbright, you can boot up using a live CD ;)07:33
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lightbrightmoccah: and do what then?07:34
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OrbordeAmaranth: More specifically...? Something is messed up with my X forwarding.07:34
moccahlightbright, or you can use rescue mode.. I`m not sure if that boots you to root07:34
lightbrightmoccah: load uding liveCD and then what?07:34
intelikeypawan_ yeah i saw that.   i asked to see the line in sudoers that you now have ?07:34
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lightbrightmoccah: isnt there stuff in /home that Ubuntu needs to run properly?07:34
klandercan i format a partition as fat32 from linux ?07:34
AmaranthOrborde: I don't remember exactly what it does but I don't think you'll be able to use X anymore.07:34
Amaranthklander: mkfs.vfat07:35
OrbordeAmaranth: What if I have X off when I do it?07:35
pawan_intelikey : pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap07:35
Orbordeexit07:35
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crimsunlightbright: ...no07:35
moccahlightbright, naaa, all the configuration files and that kind of things are gone ...07:35
ookamiif a user has a deb or TAR file, is there a way to install it without issuing commands in terminal my sister keeps messing up the commands im telling her to do and its getting beyond frustrating.07:35
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MrFartsookami, package manager/archive manager ?07:35
moccahlightbright, else than that it should be alright ;)07:35
n0dlis there a command line app that allows me to listen to music as well as internet radio streams?07:36
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ookamiMrFarts, whats that under?07:36
pawan_n0dl: mpg123 does07:36
moccahlightbright, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gainrootmodifykernel  <--- check that one..07:36
n0dlpawan: cool thanx07:36
lightbrightmoccah: im confused as you still havent given a solution or procedure07:36
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subbiedoes anybody know a good piece of software for turning mpg -> xvid or divx under linux?07:36
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ookamiarchive manager the same as package manager?07:36
intelikeypawan_ 'pawan   kewl=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap,/usr/bin/nmap kewl '     if that line does not work, i know not why.07:36
MrFartshmm, i guess synaptic doesn't install straigh from debs07:36
l0cke*sigh* why can't installing on luinux be like a mac?07:37
ookamierr..........n/m.07:37
ookamilol07:37
intelikeypawan_ by all i've read on it it should.07:37
moccahlightbright, just remember: instead of using "vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386" use your current kernel07:37
lightbrightmoccah: I dont want to gain root!  I want to know how to get Ubuntu running if the whole /home is been deleted07:37
MrFartsookami, tar files should be automatically opened by the archive manager thinger under nautilus07:37
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lightbrightcrimsun: do you have a solution to getting a system running again that has had its /home deleted?07:37
OrbordeAmaranth: It appears that X forwarding has broken itself for my own user account only.07:37
TerminusMrFarts, installing it is a different thing i think though...07:37
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crimsunlightbright: a sane system does not depend on anything in /home07:38
moccahlightbright, : i just told you a solution how to gain root, and from there set up a new /home partition07:38
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MrFartsookami, i'm sure you can find some graphical deb installer07:38
MrFartsookami, check freshmeat07:38
AmaranthOrborde: compare your files and settings to those of another user07:38
pawan_intelikey : nope. Doesn't. My system must be b0rked in some strange way.07:38
lightbrightmoccah: how do you set up a new /home?07:38
n0dldoes anyone here know how to use links/elinks really well?07:38
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n0dlhow would i set elinks up to run a certain file type with a certain program07:38
intelikeypawan_ no error ?    just prompts ?07:38
pawan_intelikey : just password prompts07:39
n0dle.g. : *.pls open with mpg123?07:39
lightbrightmoccah: what website is only good for a running system07:39
intelikeypawan_ i give up man.   i can't see any reason for it.07:39
pawan_n0dl: let me guess, you want to have it play the stream.07:39
lightbrightwhat = that07:39
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n0dlpawan_: lol... correctomundo07:39
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MrFartsookami, how hard is it to type dpkg -i though ?07:39
lightbrightcrimsun: it wont boot, it says /home is missing!  any sol,ution or we need to reinstall Ubuntu?07:40
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crimsunlightbright: what was in /home that it depends on?07:40
ookamiMrFarts! shes just not paying attention! i dont know why im bothering so much to help her...07:40
ajmitch_evening talios07:40
taliosevening07:40
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MrFartsookami, make an alias for her if it's really that hard to remember07:40
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pawan_n0dl : you want to pipe it somehow I guess. google use and abuse of pipes in audio data debian07:40
N6REJajmitch_: typoed the /etc/fstab field so trying again..07:41
n0dlalright07:41
pawan_n0dl: I wrote that piece07:41
ookamiim about to write up a bash script to install this for her...07:41
lightbrightcrimsun: no idea, all i know Ubuntu wont load now, says something about /home07:41
lightbrightcrimsun: any solutions?07:41
crimsunwithout knowing 1) the error, 2) what you did to cause (1), no07:41
lightbrightcrimsun: the /home was deleted.07:41
pawan_n0dl: it'll probably have some useful stuff to springboard from. Or not.07:41
MrFartsookami, alias installpackage='sudo dpkg -i'07:42
lightbrightcrimsun: the cause was that whole /home was deleted :P lol07:42
moccahlightbright, it would be easier if you told us what the error message said ;)07:42
N6REJajmitch_: WAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!  I owe you one! :D07:42
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lightbrightcrimsun: and now wont load. any ideas why?07:42
N6REJty ty ty07:42
crimsunlightbright: not having a /home doesn't prevent Ubuntu from loading by default07:42
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crimsun(I just tried it)07:42
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N6REJajmitch_: would you feel deprived if I put that in a wiki?07:42
SCMarkhow do I change the calendar in the top right to start with sunday instead of monday?07:43
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lightbrightcrimsun: well thats weird then for it wont load07:44
lightbrightcrimsun: ok ill get it reinstalled07:44
intelikeyhttp://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/examples/sudoers07:44
indiumI'm having a problem with gdmflexiserver. It just shows the nvidia logo and then shuts down. Can anyone help?07:44
lightbrightthanks anyway07:44
ookamihow do you remove programs?07:44
moccahookami, you can use synaptic =)07:44
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ookamibut gyach is not listed in tehre.07:45
ookamimoccah, but gyach is not listed in there. (it was a binary off a page)07:45
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moccahookami, tried apt-get remove gyach ?07:46
ookamiyeah it says: E: Couldn't find package gyach07:46
ookamibut when i type gyach in terminal it runs gyach...07:47
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lightbrightmoccah: isnt there a way to uve LiveCD to reinstall just a new /home ?07:47
moccahlightbright, sure07:47
intelikeypawan pawan pawan   wish you wouldn't have given up guite that soon......................07:48
moccahlightbright, you`ll need to mount the disk you got. And then edit the partition table ;)07:48
lightbrightmoccah: how? :P07:48
indiumookami: Find the plave where you got the binary, and see if there is any documentation to remove gyach. It was not installed as a .deb07:48
Jypastupid question, but, how i install ubuntu?07:48
lightbrightmoccah: edit the partition table?07:48
MadpilotJypa: off a CD?07:48
ookamiok07:48
Jypayes07:48
moccahlightbright, yupp07:48
lightbrightmoccah: elaborate please on the edit the partition table07:49
SCMarkanyone know how to change my date format so that the weeks start on Sunday?07:49
Jypai have now that .iso how i burn it?07:49
lightbrightSCMark: lol07:49
MrFartsJypa, either from nautilus or the commandline :)07:49
lightbrightmoccah: how do you edit the partition table?07:49
MadpilotJypa: which operating system are you using right now?07:49
typewriteris there a really lightweight torrent client?07:49
Jypawindows xp07:49
typewriteri just wanna download the ubuntu torrent real quick07:50
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indiumtypewriter: You could use btdownloadcurses07:50
lightbrightmoccah: ?07:50
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Jypado i just unpack that .iso and burn to cd?07:51
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MadpilotJypa, no you burn the ISO all at once. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto - it's got XP instructions07:51
Jypathx m807:51
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lightbrightdoes anyone know the procedure to reinstall a fresh /home ?07:52
moccahlightbright, you boot up using liveCD, then mount the harddrive that got ubuntu on it. then you have to fdisk /the/device/you/got07:52
aftertafmorning...07:53
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moccahlightbright, i.ex. a IDE disk is probably a /dev/hda (if primary) or if you got a SCSI disk you have to use /dev/sda07:54
OrbordeI think I may require assistance setting up dual monitors.07:54
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lightbrightmoccah: so I load LiveCD and the mount the hda and then type:  fdisk /hda ?07:55
moccahlightbright, yupp07:56
lightbrightmoccah: since when will fdisk create a new /home ?07:56
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lightbrightmoccah: home is on same partition as /07:56
moccahlightbright, : you got /home on a separate partition ?07:56
intelikeyumount hda before running fdisk on it.07:56
lightbrightmoccah: no i told you that there is only hda1 and hda2 for swap!  home and / is on hda107:57
sazwerxwhat app that looks like macromedia dreamweaver?07:57
lightbrightmoccah: so whats the steps?07:57
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sethknote that SATA drives, when the chipset is fully supported, also show up as sda, b, etc.07:58
moccahlightbright: I wouldn`t recomend you doing it, if you never done it before... you`ll need to repartition the hda1 disk you got.. use some of the free space to a separate /home partition ..07:58
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lightbrightmoccah: now I know you been trolling for the last 20 mins wasting my time!  Consider yourself ignored07:59
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moccahlightbright, no problem ...07:59
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cozmorning all08:00
cozis anyone here?08:00
atrophicI just added a pcmcia wireless network card... how do I get ubuntu to recognize it?08:00
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Corrupteri am08:00
Corrupterlol08:00
cozwell hello08:00
atrophiccoz, plenty of people around, ask your question ;)08:00
robotgeekatrophic: which one08:01
Corrupteratrophic: thats a question i've been asking since i was 14 man...08:01
cozI just found a command "dselect" has anyone used this before?08:01
moccahcoz, sure, I`ve used it when i got Debian as my web server08:01
sethkcoz, sure, it's been around for years with debian08:01
cozinteresting way of adding apps08:02
atrophicCorrupter, have you figured out the answer since you were 14?08:02
sethkcoz, it's basically a curses version of the package manager08:02
Corrupteratrophic: yes, don't use Wirless with linux08:02
cozI see i like it08:02
intelikeywhen you use apt-get or aptitude or synaptic you probably use deselect and don't even know it.....  :)08:02
atrophicCorrupter, but I want to :p08:02
moccahcoz, its kindof like aptitude08:02
sethkcoz, maybe you're an apt-get person at heart   :)08:02
cozOh well until ubuntu I have never really been a linux fan08:02
cozbut I am really getting into this08:03
Corrupteratrophic: i've been trying forever and a day on 4 different network cars, unless you've actually checked and made sure you network card is one of the 10 that actually works with Linux, don't bother08:03
sethkatrophic, I don't necessarily agree with Corrupter08:03
cozcorrupter you mean ethernet cards?08:03
atrophicit works with linux, I've borrowed it from a friend until the one I ordered via mail arrives08:03
sethkatrophic, it depends on your goals, and the time you have available, etc.08:03
Corruptercoz: no i mean wireless network cards08:03
cozoh sorry08:03
atrophicfinding the drivers for it etc won't be a problem... I just don't know how to get ubuntu to recognize that the hardware is there, if I even have to do anything?08:04
lightbrightdoes anyone here please know the procedure to reinstall a fresh /home ?08:04
sethkatrophic, probably you won't have to do anything at all.08:04
sethklightbright, sure, but what are you trying to accomplish by doing that?08:04
Corrupterit should already be there if it's going to work08:04
atrophicit's not showing up in network admin :/ where else should I look?08:04
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sethkatrophic, nowhere08:05
sethkatrophic, if it were working, it would show up08:05
atrophicwhere would it show up, if it was working08:05
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sethkatrophic, what card is it?08:05
Corrupterthats the one thing i've always had a problem with and hasn't been fixed yet, little to no wireless connectivity08:05
sethkatrophic, in network admin.  I thought you said that you looked in network admin08:05
atrophiclinksys wpc1108:05
cozI have another question08:06
atrophicyes, that's where I looked, didn't know if that was the right place though08:06
sethkatrophic, yes, it should show up there.08:06
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coz I use wacom tablet and have all the drivers in and even pressure sensitivity in Gimp, yeah!08:06
haziqtawau08:06
sethkatrophic, unless you like adventure, get a card that shows up without jumping through hoops.08:06
cozbut, when I use , for example the brush tool in gimp and them go for another tool, It won't release the brush tool and I am locke dout08:06
Corrupterfiery hoops08:06
intelikeylightbright if there is no directory /home  sudo mkdir /home   &  sudo mkdir /home/<username>   then sudo cp /etc/skel/* /home/<username>      last sudo chown <username>:<username> /home/<username> -R08:06
Corrupterwith tigers and lions on the other side08:07
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atrophicthe one I ordered via mail was on a compatability list... in the meantime, I don't mind jumping through hoops08:07
atrophicI just don't know which hoops to jump through, was hoping for guidance08:07
sethkintelikey, I don't think that's what he means, but I'm not sure.08:07
haziq#tawau08:07
sethklightbright, what are you trying to accomplish?  Or recover from?  or what?08:07
Corrupterif you can get a program called linuxant to work... then you'll be my god, look that up08:07
intelikeysethk may not be but it sounded like he was awaxing / just a bit ago08:08
Corrupterit's a windows driver to linux program08:08
sethkintelikey, you may be right.  I'm just trying to figure it out.  :)08:08
sethkCorrupter, it is only usable with the precise unpatched version of the kernel it was developed for08:08
Corrupterexactly08:09
sethkCorrupter, for that kernel, it isn't difficult.  for others, it is very very difficult08:09
Corrupterthats why i told him if he can get it to work... he'll be my god08:09
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sethkCorrupter, I write drivers for a living and I had trouble with it.08:09
Corrupterread... the god thing... again08:09
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intelikeyi was just trying to answer "<lightbright> does anyone here please know the procedure to reinstall a fresh /home ?"  as best i could.08:09
sethkintelikey, oh, I agree, you answered that.  I just don't think that he is really _asking_ that.  :)08:10
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moccahsethk, he managed to delete /home and Ubunti won`t boot up after ..08:11
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sethkmoccah, ah, then intelikey was right  :)08:11
cozsomething up with linux wacom driver cannot find any reference on the internet08:12
sethkbut it is actually not too hard to fix, though.08:12
sethkjust create /home, then create a new user, and copy the files from that user into all the (supposed to exist) other home directories.08:13
sethkthat at least will get you to boot08:13
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sethkalthough...it should boot without home, at least into console mode08:13
intelikeylinux will boot with no /home08:13
moccahsethk, yeah, I tried to help.. but I think he ignored me.. he said something about me trolling him :S08:13
Corrupterwhat does du do?08:13
sethkCorrupter, disk usage.  tells you how much space a file, directory, etc. use08:14
intelikeydu = disk usage     man du08:14
Corruptercrap...08:14
moccahCorrupter, estimates file space usage08:14
Corrupterits showing me every file on my hard drive08:14
intelikey^C08:14
moccahintelikey, indeed08:14
intelikeythat is why i said  'man du '08:14
sethkCorrupter, use the -s (summary) flag08:14
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sethknot using du * might help also.  :)08:15
intelikeyand --maxdepth=1  maybe08:15
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Corrupteris blackbox compatible with Ubuntu?08:15
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sethkCorrupter, sure.08:15
Corrupterit doesn't install08:15
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sethkCorrupter, I've installed it, although not on the most recent release08:16
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Corrupteri'm using the most recent, lol08:16
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intelikeyi have 'alias du='du --maxdepth=1' in /etc/profile08:16
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CorrupterE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:16
intelikeyhandy as the pocket on a shirt08:16
sethkCorrupter, probably a broken dependency08:17
rob1its good for holding your pens intelikey08:17
Corrupterhow can i fix that?08:17
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intelikeyoh that's --max-depth=1  sorry08:18
lightbrightsethk: hi :)08:18
cozsynaptic says I have one broken package on my system to use the broken fileter how do I do this?08:18
sethkintelikey, that's one of the nasty ones.  max-depth for some, maxdepth for others (like find,  I believe)08:18
cozfilter08:18
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lightbrightsethk: my friend deleted his /home and he said he cant now load Ubuntu!  whats the best way to fix as he said it says something about cant load because /home is missing08:18
intelikeyyeah08:18
smergler2hey.. question.. where are the cron jobs stored?08:19
sethklightbright, well, everyone here agrees that it should boot without home.  Ignoring that, however...08:19
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sethklightbright, mkdir /home08:19
lightbrightintelikey: thanks but what you said I could not understand :P  sorry, can you say it layman terms please?08:19
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sethklightbright, then create each user08:19
sethklightbright, but there's a snag, as you can't create users who already exist08:20
lightbrightsethk: mkdir /home from where?08:20
sethklightbright, anywhere.  it's a full path.08:20
ookamiim trying to connect to a remote ubuntu machine that has remote desktop on, but the connection keeps timing out.08:20
lightbrightsethk: yeah its ok, I will get him to reinsall eveything from strach08:20
lightbrightsethk: you cant type anything though08:20
lightbrightsethk: it doesnt even load08:20
moccahookami, : have you configured portforwarding and so on?08:20
sethklightbright, boot the cd in rescue mode, or use the live cd08:20
cozhow do I locate broken package in synaptic with broken filter?08:21
ookamino... not at all. i dont even know what ports it uses.08:21
intelikeylightbright run that command, replace every <username>  with his/her user name.08:21
ookamimoccah^08:21
lightbrightsethk: ah ok thanks08:21
lightbrightintelikey: what command?  the one you sent me?08:21
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intelikeythe one i pm'd you08:21
mrkojehey everyone08:21
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lightbrightintelikey: ok ty08:21
moccahookami, what kind of remote desktop aplication you use?08:21
lightbrightintelikey: you think those commands will do the trick 100%? :)08:22
intelikey sudo mkdir /home ; sudo mkdir /home/<username> ; sudo cp /etc/skel/* /home/<username> ; sudo chown <username>:<username> /home/<username> -R08:22
ookamimoccah, which ever it was that was built into ubuntu08:22
intelikeylet the res of them answer that.   that is the command ^08:22
lightbrightsethk: so you can run the installation CD and run "rescue" ?08:22
intelikeyerr rest08:22
ookamimoccah, for now, in the terminal im running vncview08:22
lightbrightintelikey: ok thanks08:22
moccahok08:22
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ookamii can get a prompt for my machine password, but not for the remote machine08:22
sethklightbright, I have to check the exact way to run rescue.  but press F1 at the prompt, it tells you all08:23
atrophicanybody have a link handy with wireless card compatability with ubuntu/debian?08:23
aftertaf!ndiswrapper08:23
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:23
robotgeekatrophic: check the wiki, the link to the .nl site worls fine08:23
moccahookami, first of all you have to check System->Preferences-> Remote Desktop on the machine you want to connect to08:23
ookamimoccah, that part is done.08:24
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kelbizzleanyone know the latest version of gaim?08:24
LatoneWow ... this linux stuff is different08:24
typewritergaim is 1.5.008:24
lightbrightsethk: cool thanks :)08:25
lightbrightsethk and intelikey thanks for your help!  see you tomorrow08:25
kelbizzlehow do I update?08:25
typewriterkelbizzle: i dont know if it's out in ubuntus repository or whatever yet.. but that's the latest version of gaim08:25
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typewritertry apt-get update... apt-get upgrade ?08:25
Corruptersudo apt-get update08:26
kelbizzlei have version 1.1.408:26
Latonecan I do apt-get from the terminal window?08:26
Corrupteryes08:26
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LatoneI am teaching myself to run a linux webserver ... how would I apt-get apache?08:27
Madpilot!apache08:28
ubotuwell, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom08:28
MadpilotLatone: see the URLs above, esp. the first one ^^^08:28
Latonecool thanks for the links ...08:28
Corrupterare there any good ftp server programs for Linux08:29
intelikeyyou know i just happened to think, that could be distro specific.    does ub use /etc/skel   or  /etc/skeleton   or what ?08:29
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MadpilotLatone: you can also install stuff thru Synaptic, if you don't want to mess around in terminals...08:29
Madpilotintelikey: /etc/skel, it looks like08:29
moccahookami, after scanning some sites i think 5901 is the port the vncserver listens on08:29
La_PaRCaCorrupter, vsftpd08:30
intelikeyk i told it right then.  ty Madpilot08:30
moccahookami, so just forward that port to the machine that are running vnc-server08:30
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drcodehi all08:30
drcodehow can I install libedataserver308:30
intelikeyhi08:30
drcodein ubuntu08:30
kahaHello! Just upgraded to Breezy, and have probs all of a sudden changing resolution in some games (Unreal Tournament, NWN). Screen turns to garbage. ATI Radeon 9200 Sapphire card, and fglrx drivers. Any ideas?08:30
Latonelet me try installing this real fast08:30
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intelikeydrcode where did you get it ?08:31
Corrupterdoes anyone know how to fix this error?08:31
CorrupterE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:31
MitjaWhy is ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso actually a live DVD?08:31
intelikeyhmmmm08:31
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Corrupteranybody know?08:32
mrkojenope sorry08:33
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wickedpuppyoh i just got my orders of breezy CDs ..thanks to canonical and mark :P cheers!!08:33
intelikeyall install cd's are live cd's in a sense...08:33
Latoneok ... I put in sudo apt-get install apache2 into the terminal window and it asks for a pasword?????08:33
mrkojethey are live in that they will install08:33
intelikeyCorrupter you have build-essential installed ?08:33
mrkojeyou can get a cli08:33
Corrupterwhats that?08:34
Madpilotcrap - the kernel update earlier today has eaten my 3d drivers AGAIN... damn...08:34
Mitjaintelikey, but how do I install from it? It won't give me any options.08:34
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robotgeekMadpilot: why don't you hold your package?08:35
intelikeyoh i'm sorry mitja, i know nothing about the 64 bit stuff, and was just making an observation on the live cd's08:35
Corrupterwhats build-essential08:35
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mrkojeMitja --  I'm not familiar with the DVD but does it contain a intall image taht you might have to burn?08:35
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intelikeyCorrupter you trying to install a source deb ?08:35
Mitjamrkoje, yes, the file I just posted: ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso08:35
Madpilotrobotgeek: why don't I what my what?08:35
Corrupteri'm trying to install apache08:35
mrkojeI don't see why they would that though...08:35
revfrsanctuscan anyone help me with an error code 17 on grub?08:36
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mrkojeso you burned the image then... and08:36
mrkojehmm08:36
intelikeyhmmm  oh then it is not building source.... Corrupter idk then.08:36
robotgeekMadpilot: you can ask a particular package not to be upgraded08:36
MadpilotCorrupter: apache is in the Ubuntu repos, no need for seperate debs08:36
Corrupterdebs? i'm just trying to install it from apache, it's not installing08:36
intelikeywhat command did you issue ?08:37
Corruptersudo apt-get install apache08:37
Corrupterbut nvm now, i got it08:37
intelikeyand it was ?08:37
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LatoneI think I need to add repositories first before I could add apache ... hehe I love documentation08:39
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robotgeekLatone: nope08:40
Latoneokay then .. I was wrong 8)08:40
MadpilotLatone: apache2 is in main, so you're OK - I think all the packages you'll need are, actually08:40
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intelikeyspeak of08:41
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Latonewell I got apache install so I did something right08:42
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Corrupterwhy is gnome in my installation previews when i'm running gnome right now...?08:44
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MitjaIs anyone using a amd64 version from a DVD?08:45
MitjaAll I get is a live session and I don't know how to install from it.08:46
aftertafMitja:  dont you have an option on boot ?08:46
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Mitjaaftertaf, I believe not, it goes straight to language selection08:47
Mitjaaftertaf, but I can check it again...08:47
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Corrupter*installs gnome*08:47
Corrupter*while using... gnome*08:47
Mitjawhere should the option be displayed?08:47
aftertafi dont know... :/08:48
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Latonehow come when it trys to get connect and install php4 it is connect to 1.0.0.0?08:48
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intelikeyMitja is this what you got http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso  ?08:50
Mitjaintelikey, yes08:51
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Mitjaintelikey, no08:51
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Mitjaintelikey, sorry, I got this: ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso08:51
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intelikeyhmmm idk  *shrugs*08:51
intelikeyoh08:51
intelikey:)08:51
intelikeyah ok.08:52
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ebaadhello everybody08:52
Corrupterhi08:52
ebaadthis is my first time on the forum08:52
n0dlhow do i shut down in command line>08:52
Mitjaafter I realized that the one you suggested won't work - couldn't read remaining packages08:52
Corrupterexit08:52
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robotgeekn0dl: sudo shutdown -h now08:52
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Corrupteroh, in command line as a UI...08:53
intelikeyit says that is a combo install and live  there may be an option at boot time Mitja   boot it and hit [F1]   and read.08:53
Latonewhere do I find my group name?08:53
ebaadjus wanted to ask if anybody has setup the imagemagik server08:53
Mitjaintelikey, ok, thanks08:53
intelikeynp08:53
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ebaadits like http://localhost/gallery08:54
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ebaadi tried it yesterday and was able to get it to work partially08:54
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intelikeyLatone 'groups'08:54
robotgeekebaad: what program are you trying to get running?08:54
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kpde7command08:55
xukunis there a tool to see the harddrive temperature?08:55
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robotgeekxukun: there's a package you need to install08:55
ebaadlet me see I install it from ubuntu repositories08:55
arnduckyxukun, that depends on your motherboard08:55
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intelikeynot unless it has heat sinsor on it.08:55
agtnzSpeaking of groups, which group do I add myself to so I can reboot / shutdown without a password? Is that even a group thing? :S08:55
n0dlwhoever told me that command sudo shutdown -h doesnt work08:56
robotgeekxukun: sudo apt-get install hddtemp08:56
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n0dldoes anyone know how to shutdown in command line?08:56
robotgeekn0dl: did you include the now?08:56
intelikeyagtnz no it is not08:56
robotgeekn0dl: 'sudo shutdown -h now'08:56
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n0dloh ok08:56
n0dlthanx robotgeek08:56
kpde7cc08:56
intelikeyn0dl sudo init 008:56
robotgeekn0dl: sure08:56
ebaadu can see if u can access it at http://67.181.129.148/gallery08:56
n0dlimma sleep08:56
robotgeekintelikey: :)08:56
n0dlbyebye08:56
_mdphow can i install fonts that support ansi for xterm?08:56
agtnzintelikey: ok, how do I stop it prompting me for my password?08:57
xukunrobotgeek, thanks08:57
arnduckyThere are packages that can poll system instrumentation, but the hardware system must provide this functionality (and have it turned on)to begin with.08:57
robotgeekebaad: sudo apt-get install imagemagick08:57
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intelikeyrobotgeek wont yours reboot rather than power down ?08:57
ebaadi also have the streaming server at http://67.181.129.148:888808:57
robotgeekintelikey: mine works fine.08:57
xukunarnducky, how I see know if my motherboard supports this?08:57
ebaadthe streaming server works just fine08:58
arnduckyapt-cache search acpi | grep power > foo.search && vi -R foo.search08:58
_mdpany help with this error? urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one using -fn, aborting.08:58
robotgeekebaad: no junoon :(08:58
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intelikeyagtnz you add the line to sudoers that allows you to halt/reboot without passwd.08:58
arnduckyxukun, your manual (RTFM!  hehehe) or check the CMOS settings when you boot.08:59
robotgeek_mdp: you apparently have type the font name correctly :)08:59
_mdpbut i did, it can't recognize it though (for some unapparent reason?)08:59
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_mdpi've tried many fonts (i need one with full ansi support)08:59
agtnzintelikey: thanks got it09:00
ebaadrob: no junoon???? u mean no clue09:00
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robotgeek_mdp: try, urxvt -fn "xft:Monospace:pixelsize=15"09:00
ebaadmy gallery server does not recognize the img files in the directory i pointed it to09:01
arnduckyxukun, what is your architecture (i.e IBM PC compatible 'i386' including ia64; amd64; _or_ Apple; _or_ other)?09:01
robotgeekebaad: i meant you have songs from the band Junoon09:01
paganiniI wonder if anyone can help me to eject my DVD drive. :)09:01
ebaadmay be i will have to install and configure it again09:01
paganiniI'm running Breezy now, but it did this in Hoary as well.09:01
robotgeekebaad: if you need to install imagemagick, sudo apt-get install imagemagick09:01
ebaadoh not now but I can upload them if you want them09:01
xukunarnducky, i38609:01
ebaadhow do u know junoon09:01
paganiniWhen I put a DVD or CD in the drive it mounts fine, and a little icon appears on my desktop that allows me to do intersting things with my DVD09:02
intelikeyalternitivly agtnz you could set inittab so that ctrlaltdel is power down rather than reboot.....   that would be my fix :)09:02
robotgeekebaad: sudo apt-get install imagemagick jhead unzip libjpeg-progs09:02
paganiniBut if I right click on that icon and tell it to "eject"09:02
paganiniIt says unable to eject media.09:02
robotgeekebaad: one of my fav bands :)09:02
paganiniAnd tells me I have to be root09:02
ebaadcool09:02
paganiniObviously, in ubuntu, I can't be root.09:02
arnduckyMost likely, you can access your BIOS by hitting the Delete key before or duting the system POST (at power on or reboot time).09:02
ebaadhave u listened to Vital Sign group09:02
arnduckySome systems use Escape'09:02
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paganiniSo, is there anyway to get the icon to work right, or am I gonna have to keep doing sudo umount in a terminal to get my discs out of the drive?09:02
intelikeyobviously in ubuntu i can be root.09:03
_mdprobotgeek: is there any way i can have it preload that fontset each time?09:03
agtnzintelikey: halfway thru visudo'ing atm - this'll do09:03
arnduckyToshiba laptops use Escape, then Alt-F109:03
ebaadand also Jawad ahmed09:03
robotgeek_mdp: you can either put it in your .Xdefaults, or put alias urxvt to that09:03
arnducky(or Escape, then just 'F1')09:03
robotgeekebaad: /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)09:03
ebaadcan i view your profile09:03
_mdprobotgeek: thanks09:04
ebaadoh ok09:04
intelikeyyou have a symlink /cdrom paganini   and  /dev/cdrom  ?09:04
robotgeekubotu: tell paganini about sudo09:04
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paganiniI have a symlink /media/cdrom009:04
intelikeyagtnz k09:04
paganiniAnd a /dev/dvd09:04
atrolinuxCorrupter, :p09:04
Corrupterwtf?09:05
robotgeekpaganini: also try 'sudo eject /dev/<cdrom device>' , that also works09:05
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atrolinuxCorrupter, this is me on a wireless connection in ubuntu09:05
xukunwhat is a reasonable temperature for harddisk?. mine is /dev/hdb: SAMSUNG SP0802N: 45C09:05
Corrupterlol09:05
Corruptercongratulations09:05
Corrupteri'm glad it worked09:05
paganiniRobotgeek, it works fine in a terminal.09:05
arnduckyOther systems (very raare) use '-' (minus) or any of the aforementioned key + a meta key (Ctrl, or Alt or (Ctrl or Alt)+Shift)09:05
robotgeekpaganini: then?09:05
paganiniThe point is I have this little icon with an "eject" option that doesn't work.09:05
paganiniI want it to work.09:05
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paganiniI don't want to have to use a terminal09:05
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Zukeropaganini : then don't use linux :p09:06
robotgeekpaganini: it works for me09:06
robotgeekZukero: not the right attitude bro09:06
robotgeekpaganini: which icon? gnome?09:06
paganiniYeah09:06
intelikeypaganini no /dev/cdrom ?   it may be looking for that,  to eject.     eject doesn't really care what the device is as long as it finds it.09:06
paganiniintelikey, it doesn't have trouble finding the device.09:06
paganiniIt says that only root can eject it.09:07
robotgeekpaganini: did you mount it as root?09:07
paganiniIt automounts when I put it in the drive.09:07
robotgeekpaganini: or did you use pmount (the right answer)?09:07
paganiniSo, I assume so.09:07
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rohanhi all09:07
Zukerorobotgeek : i think that you need to know how to use a terminal to use linux, maybe within 2 or 3 years you'll be able to never use a terminal and convert any basic windows user to switch to open source software09:07
rohanwhich kernel configuration option, when built as a module, has the name "dm_mod" ?09:07
Zukerothat was my point09:08
intelikeypaganini lets see the line in your /etc/fstab that describes this device ?09:08
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robotgeekpaganini: can you try this thing for me. Right click on your panel, and add drive mount applet09:08
Corrupterusing terminal isn't hard09:08
arnduckyxukun, search google or the manuyfacturer's webstie for the model number of your hard disk.  The operating specifications (including temputature ranges) will be given.  Generally, 45 deg. C is unusually host for an ATA HDD, but not at the hysterisis limit yet.   This of course depends on the specific model.09:08
paganini/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user  0       009:08
Corrupterit's just when you first look at it it's so damn intimidating09:08
atrolinuxZukero, I think you need to know how to use the command prompt to use windows properly too... what percentage of windows users actually know how though?09:08
arnduckyhost = hot09:08
robotgeekZukero: /join #ubuntu-offtopic09:08
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sethkCorrupter, it's nut sooo itimidatin if youse can typp god09:09
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Corruptermeesa knos wut yuo maen09:09
xukunarnducky, thanks09:09
arnduckyI have no sound on my fresh Ubuntu 5.1 + kubuntu install with alsa, esd, and oss drivers and the art sound daemon installed. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this, please.09:10
paganiniWhen I use the drive mounter applet to eject the CD, it says the same thing09:10
paganiniI think that my user account needs to be a member of some group that I don't know about09:10
arnduckyxukun, NP.   BTW, whaqt is ambient temp?09:10
topylithe gnome-bluetooth home page says sending files should be handled with nautilus-sendto. however, i get no such option09:10
Corrupterwhen you first looka t linux, it seems fairly easy, then you start seeing stuff about typing in commands and everybody thinks "oh god!!!" cuz EVERYONE who has used Windows has had a bad experience with DOS at one point in their life, so they're sure they're going to screw something up09:10
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BROKEN_LADDERAt McDonald's, they have a special where you can choose three items, from a list of 10 different selections.  It is fine to choose any combination, including three of the same thing.  How many unique combinations can be made?09:11
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CorrupterLinux is ALMOST idiotproof, it just requires you to have a good memory or write everything down09:11
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robotgeekCorrupter: apropos and man are your friends :)09:11
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rohanBROKEN_LADDER: ask on #math09:11
arnduckyAnd DON"T do  # rm -rf /09:11
arnduckyCorrupter09:11
anavimCorrupter, the more powerful an OS is, the less idiot-proof it is..09:11
arnducky;-)09:11
BROKEN_LADDERrohan enjoy solving it.09:11
rixthHow can I take a video of what is occuring on my screen?09:11
intelikeygroups09:11
Chousukeanavim: no OS is idiot-proof. :P09:12
Chousuke(at all)09:12
topyliCorrupter: it's true that dos experience makes it more difficult to realize the power of a real shell09:12
Corrupterwell, by idiot-proof i mean, if you f*ck it up, stick in the disk, make it re-install and poof, all fixed :-D09:12
sethktopyli, not for me.  I've always loaded a real shell into every windows system I've worked on, first thing.09:12
paganiniMaybe the real question I should be asking here is, what software automounts CDs and DVDs?09:12
arnduckyidiots are very resourcefull whenit comes to breaking (or just plain misunderstanding) systems09:12
ChousukeCorrupter: re-install is not a solution ./09:12
paganiniCan I get it to run as a user, rather than as root?09:12
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robotgeekpaganini: gnome-volume-manager09:13
Chousukeit destroys the problem.09:13
rohanwhere do i search kernel modules vis-a-vis the configuration options ? i am looking for a module called "dm_mod"09:13
Chousukeinstead of fixing it.09:13
intelikey<Chousuke> anavim: no OS is idiot-proof. <---- hehhe if it was only an idot would use it  8-] 09:13
topylisethk: sure, you can have bash. i know i do :)09:13
paganiniI have a program called gnome-volume-control, would that be it?09:13
Corrupteri disagree09:13
sethktopyli, zsh is much much much better09:13
Corrupterthats how i've learned everything i've learned on my own about Windows09:13
arnduckytopyli, I learned DOS batch scripting right away when learning PC-DOS/MS-DOS09:13
Chousukewhat is?09:13
Corrupter"hey, that completely destroys the operating system, better not do THAT again" *re-installs*09:13
Chousukeaha. :P09:14
rohansethk: you know what was the problem with that theme' .tar.gz ?09:14
topylisethk: whichever shell you like09:14
sethkrohan, tell09:14
robotgeekpaganini: no, gnome-volume-manager , no volume-control09:14
sethktopyli, :)09:14
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Chousukezsh lacks unicode support :(09:14
robotgeekpaganini: type gnome-volume-manager in a terminal09:14
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arnduckytopyli, in my case it gave me a wide outlook on 'shell power' (I had GW Basic too).09:14
anavimyay, new kernel.  time to reboot09:14
topyliarnducky: yeah, and during your batch processes the shell was busy :)09:14
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rohansethk: it was not in a format the "gdmsetup" likes. it wanted the files to be in a folder, and that folder tarred, and that tar gziped. the theme i was looking at was not that way.09:14
topyli<d xh09:15
robotgeekpaganini: then apt-get install gnome-volume-manager09:15
topyli<d09:15
intelikeyi reinstall twice a weak whether i need to or not....09:15
ChousukeIt's stupid that there are many good tools and then some awesome tools that lack one feature you need.09:15
arnduckytopyli, finding UNIX was a big improvement, but DOS never gave me a 'bad taste'09:15
sethkrohan, _very_ misleading error message09:15
topyliarnducky: which is not really the shell's fault09:15
paganiniRobotgeek; ok, I will try that.09:15
rohansethk: i agree :(09:15
paganiniBut, something is autmounting my CDs and DVDs right now, and I don't have gnome-volume-manager09:15
paganiniWhat could it be?09:15
ChousukeHmm. I started using computers in a command line environment.09:16
sethkrohan, even in a world of misleading error messages ...09:16
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Corrupterso did i09:16
ChousukeI wonder how many of today's CS kiddies can say the same.09:16
rohansethk: ya. seemed as if my disk was full / mounted read only :(09:16
arnduckytopyli, multiple DOS shells were available except for when a process needed the 'x-server'09:16
sethkchoudesh, so did I.  There wasn't anything else.  On a 110 baud tty you didn't do graphics.  :)09:16
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Corrupteri was using a Tandy when i was 10 years old... my parents got it for 25 bucks at a yard sale and thought it would help me in school09:16
intelikeyyou can add me to the cli'r list09:16
sethkCorrupter, cp/m?09:16
Chousukepeople start with the GUI and become clueless windows-dependent mouse-clickers.09:16
Corrupterfigured out how to do basics on that PC, when i got Windows 98, i nearly collapsed09:16
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romeoleger123hello evryone who s your daddy09:17
arnduckyThat was a big limitation, but not one that every slowed me down personally, since I wasn't that advanced and/or graphically inclined in what I wanted/needed/tried to do.09:17
topyliso. gnome-bluetooth users, do you get a bluetooth option in nautilus-sendto. i don't even though it's mentioned in the documentation09:17
Sonderbladeubuntu updated my kernel, cool09:18
paganiniWell09:18
robotgeekromeoleger123: this is a support forum09:18
paganiniGnome Volume Manager seems to have fixed everything09:18
paganiniThanks robotgeek09:18
Corrupterwhat is xine?09:18
Sonderbladeany issues with 2.6.12.16 and nvidia binary drivers?09:18
yatesyforum? =)09:18
intelikeyclick mouse in linux cli to write  that09:18
intelikeygpm09:18
yatesyCorrupter: a video player09:18
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robotgeekpaganini: it's weird, it should have been there by default09:19
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paganiniYeah, strange09:19
robotgeekpaganini: well, as long as it works :)09:19
paganiniHehe, yep!09:19
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Mabus06what's the easiest way to make a data dvd from an iso?09:20
arnduckyAnybody see *my* help question?09:20
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intelikeyarnducky and no multi-consoles  but we didn't know we were missing them at the time......09:20
arnduckyWell, intelikey thgere were terminal servers.... (heh)09:20
wickedpuppyMabus06, data dvd from iso ? you got to burn iso as an image .. not data09:20
Mabus06wickedpuppy, well how09:21
wickedpuppyMabus06, using which program ?09:21
arnduckyVP7400's (like ANSI VT100/102/200)09:21
wickedpuppyi can help you with k3b ...09:21
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intelikeyi never had one on a 28609:21
Mabus06wickedpuppy, I use gnome09:21
wickedpuppyMabus06, so do i ...09:21
wickedpuppylol09:21
intelikeyarnducky what was your Q ?09:22
wickedpuppyusing gnome doesn't mean you can't use kde stuff09:22
arnduckyI'd like some sound conf help... I'll repost:09:22
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arnduckyI have no sound on my fresh Ubuntu 5.1 + kubuntu install with alsa, esd, and oss drivers and the art sound daemon installed. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this, please.09:22
intelikeyalsamixer09:22
crimsunarnducky: cat /proc/asound/cards09:23
arnduckyI've had ALSA, OSS, work on Debian (emu10k SB card and c-media onboard chipset)09:23
robotgeekarnducky: you are lucky. crimsun is the sound guru :)09:23
nxv_hi, i have an alias for aterm in my .bashrc but when i start aterm in gnome alt+f2 aterm it doesn't use such settings :(09:23
arnduckyTY, crimsun (logged on during the enlightened(tm) duration of your 'shift' did I?)09:24
arnducky=oD09:24
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intelikeyit doesn't read your .bashrc most likely.  put the alias in /etc/profile maybe nxv_09:24
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robotgeeknxv_: you can set default aterm properties in ~/.Xdefaults09:24
arnduckycat /proc/asound/cards > asound.cards.proc09:25
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intelikeyor check ./bash_profile maybe nxv_, not sure about it.09:25
arnduckycrimsun, where's the pastebin?09:25
robotgeekubotu: tell arnducky about pastebin09:25
crimsuntopic.09:25
arnducky(Vendor ID strings for both cards are there)09:26
wickedpuppy.bashrc is read alright ... but i only store bash settings09:26
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arnduckycrimsun, right, read it, now how do I use dapper -- hehehe?09:26
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crimsunarnducky: come again?09:26
sabmannI'm using eclipse for java development but it's very laggy under ubuntu, anyone got tips making it run faster?09:26
arnducky /TOPIC09:27
robotgeeknxv_: my .Xdefaults is at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/490709:27
LinuxN00biehi09:27
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intelikeywickedpuppy .bashrc is read from aterm ?09:27
wickedpuppysabmann, yah ... add more ram09:27
sabmannlol 512 not enough?09:27
LinuxN00bieNoUse, about the synaptic segfault a while ago...09:27
wickedpuppyintelikey, bashrc is read by bash ... no matter which terminal09:27
crimsunarnducky: I need the output from the command I gave you.09:27
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arnducky <j/k>  (sort of, I really don't know how to use dapper, but I take it, it's a package management tools from)09:27
nxv_thx robotgeek09:27
arnduckyAye, aye, sir!09:27
wickedpuppysabmann, eclipse is slow compared to ? to me all java apps are slow09:27
LinuxN00bieNoUse, i didn't change my RAMs, but i modified the sources.list file09:28
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LinuxN00bieand comment every line of the "universe" repositories09:28
sabmannwickedpuppy, my computer is a dualboot system. On Winxp pro I use eclipse and it's way faster09:28
LinuxN00biesynaptic runs again09:28
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arnduckyhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4908  Captain Crimsun, Sir!09:28
intelikeywickedpuppy .bashrc is not read if sh rather than bash is called, i don't think.   i have noticed that some shells don't have my customizations from .bashrc in them.09:28
Corrupterwhere can i find network drives?09:28
arnduckyArrrgh.09:28
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intelikeyor terms i mean   not shells ^09:29
wickedpuppyintelikey, sh then its not bash anymore :P i assume aterm he asks is calling bash and bash alone09:29
sabmannCorrupter, look in the 'places' menu for Network servers09:29
arnduckyCrimsun would you like to see lspci or dmesg output?09:29
base??09:29
intelikeybut you know sh is a symlink to bash.....09:30
wickedpuppysabmann, that no idea ... you added more plugins i suppose ??09:30
crimsunarnducky: which sound device do you want to use?09:30
Corrupteranybody know anything about gmailfs?09:30
intelikeyor dash in some cases maybe......    that may be part of it....09:30
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wickedpuppyintelikey, yup ... well in that case .bashrc should be read ... or /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile ...09:31
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sabmannwickedpuppy, well maybe you're right. I installed eclipse with apt-get, but in Win I just extracted the zip package downloaded from eclipse.org09:31
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nxv_do i have to restart X to make .Xdefaults changes valid?09:31
sabmannmaybe apt-get uses preinstalled plugins09:31
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intelikeyyes the ones in /etc are but for some reason not always ./.bash<blah>09:31
robotgeeknxv_: yup09:31
wickedpuppysabmann, yup yup ... :P09:31
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marcnxv_: nope09:31
nxv_ok, brb09:31
robotgeekmarc: really?09:32
nxv_marc: no? so why are my changes not taken into account, when starting a new aterm?09:32
Corrupterwhat would happen if i uninstalled gnome?09:32
marcrobotgeek: xrdb -merge .Xdefaults09:32
sabmannwickedpuppy, I'll take a look09:32
topyliCorrupter: you would be gnomeless09:32
robotgeekmarc: ah, I learnt something new today09:32
nxv_marc: nice 8)09:32
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marcyay!09:32
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Corrupterlol, well i'm using gnome... and then i installed gnome... and now i have 300 les MB than i should for no reason and i want it back!!!09:33
basedoes ubunto use rpms?09:33
sabmannCorrupter, lol09:33
topylibase: no09:33
basedidnt think so09:33
wickedpuppyyou are using gnome and you installed gnome ...09:33
topylibase: debs, debian packages09:33
wickedpuppybase, .deb09:33
baseapt-get install09:34
intelikeyCorrupter why did you install gnome ?09:34
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crimsunarnducky: ?09:34
Corrupterwell... it was there... and... i wanted to see what it would do if i installed it09:34
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wickedpuppyCorrupter, so you seen it ?09:34
intelikeyeat 300m hd space .....  :)09:34
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Corrupterwhat do you mean seen it?09:34
z1onhelp, I just installed ubuntu 5.1, rebooted, OK... now it says "Installing Packages" and it's been sitting there for a long time at 0%09:34
base?09:34
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nxv_how can i get the whole windows displayed when tabbing through it (alt+tab) instead of only the border?09:34
Corrupteri typed in sudo apt-get install kde and then i was like "i wonder if gnome is here" so i typed it in and then it went through with installing gnome09:35
Janewaygood morning09:35
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arnduckyThe second one -- emu101k (but support for both would be nice) The bazillion apps & tools that come with KDE seem to see both (or at least sees three devices 'SigmaTel STAC9708,11(OSS Mixer)' is the third. Of four options with three devices -- the C-media device options list both ALSA and OSS to give four total09:35
Corrupteri'm on a 3.2 GB partition, i need my 300MB!!!09:35
quantumanyone know a workaround for a problem i have09:35
z1onCorrupter: eh, apt-get remove gnome09:35
wickedpuppyCorrupter, if you wanna know .. check in synaptic or apt-cache search .... i don't know why you need to install something to see if its there09:35
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intelikeyjaneway ?   wasn't that a startrek char. ?09:36
topyliCorrupter: gnome is a metapackage, depending on a whole lot of gnome packages. if you remove it, you save 0 bits09:36
arnduckycrimsun, I also have an 'original'  Radeon AIW int his box which has sound ports09:36
basewhere do i find install packages for ubunto?09:36
Corrupteri noticed that09:36
anavimcurl appears to be completely dead on my system, even after reconfigure.  does anyone know another tool which does HTTPPUT?09:36
Corrupteri didn't want to see if it was there, i wanted to see how big it was09:36
Corrupterkde is about 500 MB09:36
quantumbase what's your prob with synaptic? it is a database for packages09:36
crimsunarnducky: I'm still awaiting an answer to my question09:36
sabmannbase, type sudo synaptic09:36
arnduckyI thought I did.09:36
topylibase: your package manager should find them for you09:36
Corruptergnome is about 300, the only difference being, kde asked if i wanted to install, gnome didn't, it just kept going till it was done09:36
Corrupterit raped my PC!!!09:36
arnduckyREPOST: The second one -- emu101k (but support for both would be nice) The bazillion apps & tools that come with KDE seem to see both (or at least sees three devices 'SigmaTel STAC9708,11(OSS Mixer)' is the third. Of four options with three devices -- the C-media device options list both ALSA and OSS to give four total09:36
Janewayinelikey: yep (and the first female captain)09:36
baseit doesnt have the packages i want and if it does they have errors09:37
arnduckyi.e. the SB Live! card09:37
wickedpuppyCorrupter, you could have done ctrl-c ..09:37
z1onhelp, I just installed ubuntu 5.1, rebooted, OK... now it says "Installing Packages" and it's been sitting there for a long time at 0%.. what's it trying to do?09:37
JanewayI'm just trying to figure out my way round breezy09:37
abishekhi,i installed the w32 codecs pack ,but still totem is not able to play mp3 and mpg,can anybody help09:37
Corrupterwuzzat?09:37
arnduckyAye, ready. Aye!09:37
quantumi cannot type a doubledot in dosbox09:37
wickedpuppytell abishek about mp309:37
crimsunarnducky: are you using GNOME or KDE? It's very easy in GNOME and more problematic in KDE.09:37
typewritertheres no mplayer in ubuntu repository??09:37
quantumascii-code?09:37
Amaranthabishek: install totem-xine09:37
arnduckyKDE09:37
zorba64!mp309:37
ubotuto enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:37
abishekhow to09:37
Janewaywhere can I find help on how to install programs?09:37
Amaranthtypewriter: it's in multiverse09:37
typewritercome again.. im coming from debian...09:38
typewriternever heard of multiverse09:38
arnduckycrimsun, I'd like command line (with no DE initialized) and SDL support too if possible09:38
Janewaymaybe I should add I'm a complete newbie (however, installing breezy worked just fine)09:38
abisheki followed the instruction in the restricted formats section09:38
crimsunarnducky: in a Konsole, echo "options snd-cmipci index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload09:38
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intelikeyJaneway synaptic is the gui package installer for ub09:38
AmaranthJaneway: what do you want to install?09:39
intelikeyin the system menu09:39
dduckoubotu tell Janeway about synaptic09:39
abishekAmaranth: what's totem xine09:39
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JanewayAmaranth: I'm trying to download and install GAIM for a start09:39
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Amaranthabishek: It makes totem use the xine engine, which works with w32codecs.09:39
dduckoYou already have Gaim09:39
intelikeyJaneway don't dl it.09:39
crimsunarnducky: just install libsdl1.2debian-alsa09:39
dduckoAplications-Internet its there09:39
Janewaybeen browsing the forums for a while, but I soon got lost :(09:40
abishekAmaranth: i'm online via windows ,where do i download xine09:40
dduckootherwise use Synaptic to install programs09:40
quantumanyone managed to type a "doubledot" in dosbox...this annoying quirk makes me unable to use it09:40
intelikeyJaneway use the package installer 'synaptic'  and install it from there.   no need to dl it.09:40
Corruptergnome raped my PC and gave it a 300 MB baby it didn't want...09:40
Amaranthabishek: it's the totem-xine package09:40
Amaranthabishek: don't you have internet access on ubuntu?09:41
intelikey!tell Janeway about reops09:41
LinuxN00bieabishek, in ubuntu, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager09:41
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arnduckyAye Capt. crimsun.  Yes Capt. crimsun, that pkg is installed, sir.  And may this humble sailor-penguin ask what the  last command does, Sir?09:41
intelikey!tell Janeway about repos09:41
quantumamaranth he could use gxine which is a standalone gui for xine09:41
topyliCorrupter: if you tell apt to install gnome, it will install it. why are you complaining? if you have packages you don't want, remove them09:41
Amaranthquantum: that doesn't have a mozilla plugin09:41
Janewayintelikey: ok - and where do I find synaptic?09:41
abishekAmaranth: nope my modem's a conexant hcf09:41
Amaranthquantum: and totem works nicer09:41
Amaranthabishek: ouch, mine too09:41
intelikeysystem menu09:41
Corrupterhow do i tell someone something?09:42
abishekAmaranth: ur online via windows too09:42
Corrupterpm them09:42
egonwhi all, upgrade question: I get this error: "Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.12-10.24) .. evms_open_engine() failed with error code 13: Permission denied. cpio: ./lib/evms/disk*: No such file or directory" when ugrading my 2.6.12 amd64 k8 smp kernel... that's serious right?09:42
Janewaygot it09:42
robotgeekcrimsun: the 'tee' is nice. i'm learning new things today :). i tht that sudo sh -c was the only way (which iread up in the sudo manual)09:42
Amaranthabishek: yeah09:42
topyliCorrupter: use /msg or /query. after asking for permission09:42
quantumsomeone must know how to type a doubledot in dosbox. i have heard of ascii codes, but how do they work?09:43
abishekAmaranth: i found the driver for my modem ,but a diff kernel version09:43
Amaranthabishek: the driver is 14.4k until you pay $2009:43
quantumi need to enter the mounted virtual disk but cannot09:43
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abishekAmaranth: no i'm talking about free drivers09:44
arnduckyErr, I beg your leave to correct myself, Cpt. crimsun.  I installed the ~-all 'Debian' SDL  package, not exactly the one you cited.  The ~-all pkg deinstalled the ~-alsa package.09:44
quantumprobably the most stupid problem ever09:44
Amaranthabishek: there are none...09:44
Amaranthabishek: no legal ones that i've found, anyway09:44
crimsunarnducky: so install -alsa09:44
arnduckyquantum, have you tried using the 'backslash carahcter' \09:45
Amaranthabishek: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/totem/totem-xine_1.2.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb should be what you want, but you need to get it's dependencies too09:45
arnduckyas in \.\.09:45
quantumarnducky as in?09:45
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intelikeyJaneway there is a very good reason to always use the packages built for your ubuntu system,   the ones not built for it often cause trubble and can break things, besides being hard to install.09:45
quantumarnducky i'l give it a try right now09:45
abishekAmaranth:thanks a lot09:45
arnduckyquantum to send reserved ASCII chars to the shell09:45
Janewayso if I want a messenger, which one would you recommend?09:46
robotgeekJaneway: gaim09:46
LinuxN00biegaim09:46
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Amaranthabishek: you have a PM09:46
Corrupterare there any AIM programs taht you can use in a command line09:46
arnduckycrimsun, do you recommend the -alsa pkg as superior to the all or SDL pkgs whish bind the otehr drivers?09:47
robotgeekCorrupter: centericq09:47
bjvCorrupter: apt-cache search09:47
Janewaybrrrrrr - I am such an idiot09:47
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arnduckyAlso, crimsun, did you want the print from that echoed bash line?09:47
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crimsunarnducky: the -alsa is preferable to the others, yes.09:47
arnducky(it killed two high pid# processes and loaded much stuffings)09:47
Janeway(just realized it came with breezy and is already up and working)09:47
crimsunarnducky: and no, I don't need the output09:48
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holycowhttps://www.hamrick.com/reg.html  <-- very cool piece of software09:48
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holycowcommercial scanner app, runs as a user, just double click and go09:48
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arnducky!invoke.rc09:48
ubotuarnducky: What?09:48
robotgeekJaneway: :)09:48
quantumarnducky so i have mou09:48
arnduckyrc looks like a script -- is this a Ubuntu thing or common to all Linices(sic?)?09:49
Amaranthabishek: ?09:49
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abishekAmaranth:try this http://hsf.szm.sk:80/09:49
quantumarnducky so the partition is mounted, but exactly what should i type for to act as the char09:49
arnduckyquantum, I don't understand your question.09:49
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abishekAmaranth: no i'm unreggd09:49
quantumarnducky i just need to get a c:09:49
crimsunarnducky: it's a Debian thing.09:50
bjvwe just got pushed on to kernel 2.6.12-10.2409:50
bjvwhich means apt-get downloaded a 18mb 386 unoptimized kernel i will never use.09:50
quantumarnducky but it seems that is not found anywhere!09:50
intelikeylast letters rc is linux common  config scripts....09:50
quantumarnducky the : part09:50
bjvis there any way to download, for instance a k7 optimized kernel, everytime a knew version gets pushed on us?09:50
robotgeekbjv: you can 'hold' your kernel, or any other package09:50
bjvthru apt-get dist-upgrade?09:50
anavimhmm... curl seems to be failing because it's translating "www.google.com" as localhost... anyone seen this problem before?09:50
crimsunbjv: install linux-k709:50
arnduckyahhh, sooo09:50
Janewaythanks intelikey (I'm not yet registered)09:50
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robotgeekanavim: try http://www.google.com09:51
intelikeynp09:51
topylibjv: you have linux-386 or linux-image-386 installed and it always depends on the latest 386 kernel09:51
abishekAmaranth:where r u from09:51
Amaranthabishek: iowa, usa09:51
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anavimrobotgeek, that's too easy... no I tried that before also09:51
robotgeekanavim: heh, no i havent seen it then09:52
anavimoddly enough, it also translates IP addresses into localhost... weird09:52
abishekAmaranth:ur name sound indian,well i'm from tamil nadu,india09:52
bjvah, true. but if i install linux-k7 it will remember to grab the k7 package every upgrade, too?09:52
robotgeekabishek: sowkyama :)09:52
intelikeyhmmmm i have vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk installed  :)09:52
bjvcool.09:52
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arnduckycrimsun, will I have to add that command to cron/anacron or an initscript?09:52
crimsunarnducky: no, it's done.09:52
abishekAmaranth:all right a tamilian09:52
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crimsunbjv: just installing it once is enough.09:52
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Amaranthabishek: Lots of people say that. I don't suppose my name means anything.09:53
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anavimabishek, Amaranth is a kind of grain09:53
quantumarnducky you know the scandinavian characters? in the us keyboard set in dos they are usually found when shift+a rises but in dosbox they are totally disabled09:54
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abishekrobotgeek:where r u from09:54
Amaranththat to09:54
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Amaranthand a shade of blue09:54
Amaranthand a mythical flower that never wilts09:54
abishekAmaranth:one more question,i need to install c++ ,where do i dl09:54
wickedpuppyabishek, build-essential09:54
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robotgeekabishek: born in chennai, grew up in hyd and now in tx09:54
arnducky"options snd-cmipci index=-2"  <-- did that change the priority of the c-media driver from 1 to 2?09:54
Amaranthabishek: that's a very large download09:55
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intelikeyyou apt-get build-essentual abishek09:55
=== arnducky still doesn't *hear* anything...
crimsunarnducky: to anything but the primary.09:55
crimsunarnducky: cat /proc/asound/modules09:55
abishekAmaranth:do we get c++ dev in apt build essential09:55
crimsunyes, you do.09:55
abishekrobotgeek: born in chennai,now in trichy09:55
Amaranthabishek: you need to get build-essential and all of it's dependencies09:55
quantumit is build-essential09:55
robotgeekabishek: kk09:55
Amaranthabishek: http://packages.ubuntu.com/build-essential09:56
arnduckyOh, wait!  A system .wav played when I closed a GUI window just now.  All I had before was the system beep (prpogress -- joy!)09:56
crimsunarnducky: then you're fine.09:56
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abishekrobotgeek:what r u doin09:56
quantumarnducky your problem is solved but my quirk is still troubling09:56
robotgeekabishek: /j #ubuntu-offtopic :)09:57
quantumarnducky a system wav would mean that you only need the player that works09:57
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arnducky~$ cat /proc/asound/modules > asound.module.proc09:57
Janewaythanks all, I'll be off now09:57
Janewaybye :)09:57
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crimsunwhat? another Daniel from the Triad?09:58
arnduckyYou'd thinks so.  Hopefully all the other pipes are 'welded' to the right system flanges with the respective valves openeable09:58
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quantumheh have i received a secret 5.10 since everything works fine..even my aureon 5.1 card09:58
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arnduckyquantum, I never play with ISO 8859 or even UTF char sets, so I don't really know how to help  =(09:58
abishekAmaranth:could you tell me what are the dependencies for mplayer and it's accessories09:58
intelikeyooops lost it down a pipe.....09:58
Amaranthabishek: http://packages.ubuntu.com can09:59
LinuxN00bieguys09:59
quantumarnducky well you did help..if it is the iso set in function, i should be able to find the ascii code on my own09:59
arnduckyintelikey, I have a firewall that should stop use of net09:59
intelikeylol yeah09:59
quantumarnducky i was in the belief that this was something bisarre related to the keyboard hardware09:59
LinuxN00biei fixed a new CD-ROM drive but linux won't detect it09:59
LinuxN00biewhy??09:59
arnduckyquantum, I think yoiu can cat a file on a standardLinux.UNIX box09:59
quantumarnducky i do have a brand new logitech deluxe finnish version10:00
arnduckyupdatedb &&locate iso | cat | grep charset10:00
intelikeyLinuxN00bie what does 'i fixed a new CD-ROM drive' mean ?10:00
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quantum=)10:01
LinuxN00bieintelikey, it means i opened up my CPU casing and fix my drive there10:01
arnduckyquantum, I jsut bought a Logitech EX110 and it's bugg too10:01
quantumarnducky really? curses on lt10:01
abishekAmaranth:where do i get a burning software10:01
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quantumabishek how about typing cdrecord in the console?10:01
Amaranthabishek: depends on what you want to do10:01
quantumabishek it's very good and simple for simple tasks10:01
Amaranthabishek: ubuntu comes with some10:01
intelikeyok. LinuxN00bie is it on the primary or secondary ide or some scsi cable ????10:02
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quantumabishek and the gui is found when you enter a blank disk10:02
bjvwhat is the name of the gnome keyboard shortcut deamon?10:02
LinuxN00bieintelikey, primary10:02
arnduckyI mean the KB syupport in my Debian is buggy and slightly buggy in UBunt (the Gentoo Live CD actually heard my web-backspace key as something10:02
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bjvit;s like keybrdd or something.10:02
Amaranthabishek: if you want to do a data cd just put in a blank cd and a nautilus window should pop up. you drag files and folders into that window then choose file->burn10:02
quantumall thanks to cdrecord10:02
abishekAmaranth:is it just like nero10:02
Amaranthabishek: for audio cds it's Applications->Sound and Video->Serpitine10:02
Amarantherr, if i knew how to spell10:03
Amaranthabishek: err, much easier10:03
arnduckyquantum, I think we need to find (or write) an 'xkb ruleset' for our version of X11 (Xorg or XFree86)10:03
intelikeyk LinuxN00bie is it the only cdrom drive ?10:03
quantumarnducky blah my problem seems to be only dosbox-related .. :::::::10:03
sabmannmy openoffice2 crashes when I type some chars, any suggestions? I'm running ubuntu breezy10:03
LinuxN00bieintelikey, there's a cd writer on the secondary cable10:03
arnduckyThe system used to crash/freeze (or at least lose keyboard suppot) when I used it with the USB iface (with and without other ps/2 mice and kbds attached)10:04
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intelikeyok in a terminal do 'ls /media '  and tell me how many times cdrom appears LinuxN00bie10:04
quantumlinuxnoobie in the dev folder is your burner, and if it's the only one it's cdr110:04
quantumlinuxnoobie anyway..10:04
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie like cdrom0 cdrom1 .....  ?10:05
indigirl1i just installed a warty cd. how do i upgrade to the newest (breezy probably)?10:05
LinuxN00bieintelikey, cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy010:05
arnduckyquantum -- I want all (or most of) my 'luser-stupid' shortcut keys to work -- especially the MM keys (e.g. volume, mute, play/pause....)10:05
quantumlinuxnoobie yes but the burners are cdr1 cdr210:05
quantumarnducky that could cause major problems10:05
quantumarnducky i don't really like shortcut keys10:06
intelikeyok LinuxN00bie in the terminal do 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1 '10:06
nepali_room, how can I make gnome-network monitor added in the gnome panel by default for new users ..10:06
sabmannmy openoffice2 crashes when I type some chars, any suggestions? I'm running ubuntu breezy10:06
quantumarnducky but the ones in the zippy el worked fine out of the box10:06
bjvQuestion: what is the name of the Gnome keyboard shortcut deamon?10:06
indigirl1crimsun, youre in triad?10:06
LinuxN00bieintelikey, ok...done it10:06
arnduckyNahhh.. just some mime + application mapping I'm guessing (call me an optimist)10:06
intelikeyk LinuxN00bie in a terminal type 'sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 '10:06
bjvi cant seem to find it on my system.10:06
arnducky'zippy el'?10:06
quantumarnducky zippy electro-luminescent keyboard10:07
arnduckyheh10:07
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quantumarnducky it's a glowing keyboard with sleep and power shortcuts =)10:07
LinuxN00bieintelikey, user@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom110:07
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quantumarnducky just a moment..10:07
LinuxN00biemount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist10:07
crimsunindigirl1: Greensboro.10:07
intelikeyhmmm ok10:07
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arnduckyI just want to use my kbd as a remote (seeing as it';s 27 Mhz wireless) without going shopping for blueteeth.10:08
linuxboyis there a channel for the ubuntu backports ?10:08
indigirl1wow. im in winston. my bro lives in gbo10:08
bjvindigirl1: there is a file /etc/apt/sources.list that contains the names of the repos10:08
bjvyou should be able to just change all the words 'warty'  to 'breezy'     then   apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -y      as root.10:08
crimsunlinuxboy: no, but there is a mailing list10:08
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MitjaI want to install Opera, but it says "Archive type not supported" although I downloaded specifically for Breezy Badger. How can I get it installed?10:08
Amaranthno!10:08
linuxboycrimsun: how busy is it ?10:08
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crimsunindigirl1: getting kinda cool outdoors, eh?10:08
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crimsunlinuxboy: no idea.10:09
quantumarnducky http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=078310:09
Amaranthbjv: You have to upgrade to hoary, then breezy10:09
bjvso no one knows the name of the gnome keyboard shortcut deamon?10:09
linuxboycrimsun: thanks10:09
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie look at the #ubuntu topic ^ for where to paste, and paste the output of 'lsmod' and give me the url so i can look at it.10:09
bjvcould someone do a ps -A or something. :\10:09
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quantumarnducky very cool site10:09
indigirl1bjv, okay cause wiki said its unsupported upgrade. maybe wiki needs an upgrade10:09
bjvwell, listen to Amaranth too10:09
indigirl1crimsun, boone got snow10:09
bjvupgrade to hoary 1st, make sure your stable10:09
arnduckyYou want me top load a strange site with 'popups' in the URI?!?  (heh)10:10
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bjvthen make the jump to breezy. he sounds like he knows what he is doing.10:10
quantumarnducky it's just a finnish hardware store10:10
indigirl1crimsun, does gbo have a good linux user group?10:10
quantumarnducky verkkokauppa=netstore10:10
intelikeyguys if udev didn't make a hdb  where will the device node be ?   /dev/cdrom/ ?10:10
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, ok ...10:10
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie url please ?10:11
crimsunindigirl1: mm snow. No, GSO doesn't. I'm a member of TriLUG since I'm a UNC alumnus.10:11
LinuxN00bieintelikey, wait a sec10:11
intelikeyk10:11
LinuxN00bieintelikey, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/490910:11
intelikeylooking10:11
MitjaWhat should I do about "Archive type not supported", although it's a Breezy Badger archive?10:12
bjvcould some one do a   ps -A | grep d10:12
indigirl1crimsun, trilug thats chapel hill?10:12
arnduckyCaptain crimsun, sir.  Kubuntu default installs about a dozen mediaplayers, and I'd like to # apt-get remove --purge [redundancies] 10:12
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bjvand tell me the name of the keyboard related daemon?10:12
arnduckyWhat do you recommend, sir?10:12
quantumarnducky zalman theatre 610:12
bjvim really having a time figuring this out. :\10:12
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crimsunindigirl1: triangle10:12
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arnduckyI don't mind having two-dozen if each of them has at least one little file supported or feature that is unique, but...10:13
indigirl1crimsun, where is triangle raleigh durham? thats far from ws and gso10:13
intelikeyok that looks good the drivers are loaded ok LinuxN00bie.  lets see if we can find a divice node now.      in the terminal do 'ls /dev/cdrom -l '10:13
tuxxxbladelol got a sound problem10:13
[Jonne] what can be the cause of getting 'permission denied' on a folder i'm accessing through ssh? when i do 'cd files' it says permission denied10:13
intelikeyLinuxN00bie tell me how many entries you get ?10:13
crimsunindigirl1: /join #ubuntu-offtopic10:14
[Jonne] i own the dir, and it's chmod'ed 66610:14
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quantumtuxxxblade is your card found in device manager? or is it a app-related prob10:14
arnduckyAnd I've already settled on the xine-ui forntend for xinelibs and plugins10:14
tuxxxbladei dunno actually10:14
LinuxN00bieuser@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/cdrom -l10:14
LinuxN00bielrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-11-24 00:17 /dev/cdrom -> hdc10:14
tuxxxbladeit worked before i "installed" the driver10:14
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tuxxxbladebut the quality was kinda sucky so i dled the driver n installed it10:14
tuxxxblademaybe i installed it bad10:15
quantumtuxxxblade ubuntu/system/administration/device manager10:15
arnduckyShould I have mplayer or gstreamer for any particular reason (mozilla or otehr applications mime handler compatibility perhaps?)?10:15
tuxxxbladeyeah10:15
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie ok.   lets try 'sudo MAKEDEV cdrom '10:15
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, user@ubuntu:~$ sudo MAKEDEV cdrom10:15
LinuxN00biePassword:10:16
LinuxN00bie/sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "cdrom"10:16
quantumtuxxxblade arggh i don't even know how to uninstall a driver..thought i could look smart by telling you about insmod..this is i never needed to go backward10:16
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tuxxxbladeic10:16
tuxxxbladeits ok10:16
tuxxxbladeill take a look10:16
intelikeyLinuxN00bie the jumpers are set to slave on that cdrom drive are they not ?10:16
quantumtuxxblade i guess you could study the insmod parameters to find a uninstall method10:16
quantumtuxxblade try info insmod10:17
ookamicould someone tell me how to remove quake III from my ubuntu? my friend wanted to be all smart and show off quake in linux, but it would not run... i'd like it off, and the readme offers no removal instructions10:17
tuxxxbladeoki10:17
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, err10:17
LinuxN00bieintelkey, i think so..10:17
quantuma break10:17
LinuxN00bieintelikey, my bios could detect it, but ubuntu couldn't10:18
intelikeyhmmmm that is odd LinuxN00bie.10:18
ookamiis it safe to just delete folders where quake installed to?10:18
intelikeyANYONE got any sujestions here ?10:18
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, many odd things happened to my comp :)10:19
intelikeyi stand under you LinuxN00bie  :)10:19
bjvookami: yah, you installed off disk to your home dir or similar?10:19
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bjvyou can probably just rm them10:19
LinuxN00bieintelikey, if my bios can detect the drive, then linux muz be able to detect it to right?10:19
ookamibjv, i installed from disk.. it copied to various folders... but im not sure which. there is not add/remove option in here that i know of...10:20
LinuxN00biebut in my places > computer, i dun see any cd-rom drive and all the commands i tried juz now also didn't work10:20
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intelikeyyes that should be true LinuxN00bie i dont know of an ide cdrom that linux doesn't support.   what kind is it, do you know ?10:21
bjvookami: you might be able to run --uninstall on the installer script on the disk10:21
bjvit would know where it put stuff.10:21
LinuxN00biethere's a "samsung" on the hardware10:21
ookamibjv, could you post an example? im sitll new at this10:22
intelikeymonitor ?10:22
ookamisudo sh setup.sh --uninstall ?10:22
ookamilike that?10:22
LinuxN00bieSAMSUNG CD-ROM SH-152A10:22
bjvyah10:22
intelikeythat's the burner or the cdrom ?10:23
bjvor if that borks up do --help, see if it says anything useful.10:23
LinuxN00biecd-rom10:23
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wickedpuppywouldn't it be much clearer to read the script itself ?10:23
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, if i can see it in the device manager, is it detected by ubuntu?10:23
intelikeythen the kernel and hal see it ok.   yes10:23
wickedpuppyLinuxN00bie, i would say yes10:23
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ookamino, it just launches the program offering to install again.10:23
ookamibjv, it just launches the program offering to install again.10:24
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intelikeywickedpuppy why is there no device inode for it ?10:24
LinuxN00biewickedpuppy, but i can't mount it10:24
wickedpuppyi added my dvd burner a few months ago ... it went fine10:24
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intelikeywhere does udev keep default ide devices ?10:24
wickedpuppymount ? ide cdrom ? should be auto but reading from your messages it isn't happening10:24
LinuxN00bieyeap10:25
bjvookami: i dont have the game. all i can offer is read the README files on the disk and try -h or --help on the installer.10:25
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bjvor maybe read the installer with vi or something.10:25
intelikeywickedpuppy no device inode ?10:25
ookamiok10:25
ookamithankls10:25
wickedpuppyintelikey, no idea about that one ... been so long since i see someone with ide problem in linux ...10:26
wickedpuppylol10:26
wickedpuppynormally its sound and video ...10:26
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arnduckycrimsun crew-sader, ~/modules had two lines  -- one for each driver (no SigmTel line)10:26
LinuxN00biethis is the cd-rom drive10:26
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bjvLinuxN00bie: you just have a regular atapi cd drive and you are having trouble even using it?10:27
crimsunarnducky: eh?10:27
bjvit should 'just work' right?10:27
LinuxN00bieyeap10:27
LinuxN00biebut i can't mount it10:27
intelikeyLinuxN00bie 'ls /dev/ide/host0/bus010:27
bjvgenerally if you try and mount and it says "no such device"  your shit is just broken.10:28
LinuxN00bieintelikey, user@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ide/host0/bus010:28
LinuxN00biels: /dev/ide/host0/bus0: No such file or directory10:28
bjvotherwise you are just mounting it wrong and need to man mount.10:28
arnduckyxmms, noatun, Kaffeiune (a gstreamer frontend I think) et al cannot play .cda files from my /dev/hda/  (1st CDROM -- I use BIOS emulation and boot from a device on a different controller)10:28
quantumso does anyone know a solid freeware fps multiplayer for linux? i am dying to grap a gun10:28
quantumthe hit of the time10:28
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ookami....games/quake3$ sudo sh uninstall10:29
ookamiall done :)10:29
bjvfreeware? i just wine unreal tournament or bust some moab in scorched3d10:29
bjvookami: gjob. :)10:29
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ookamithanks.10:29
intelikeyLinuxN00bie on the outside chance you have the cables reversed, in the terminal 'eject /dev/hdd '10:30
bjvno online fps that im aware of.10:30
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quantumbjv darn10:30
arnduckyhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4910  <-- crimsun leetster, that's what I meant10:30
ronanhi all10:30
LinuxN00bieintelikey, i typed that and it ejected my cd-writer10:30
quantumbjv i do know one...10:30
intelikeyok LinuxN00bie :)10:30
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quantumhttp://wouter.fov120.com/cube/10:31
LinuxN00bieintelikey, so???10:31
intelikeynow 'eject /dev/hdc ' LinuxN00bie10:31
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bjvquake 2 is foss and has network play, right? but you need the datafiles off the disk. :(10:31
arnduckycrimsun, KDE mounts/umounts my ATAPI devs automatically, and I can read/write data to them but not play a CD10:31
LinuxN00bieintelikey, it ejected the samsung10:31
intelikeyyour system thinks the burner is the rom :)10:31
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crimsunarnducky: as in KsCD doesn't work at all, or you can't hear anything?10:31
LinuxN00bie......10:32
crimsunarnducky: you need to set KsCD to use digital audio extraction in the Preferences10:32
quantumwhat's really fun that linux downloaders are above the win32 package ratios10:32
arnduckycrimsun Penguin Though I now can hear system .wav10:32
intelikeyyou didn't have the right ide cable :)10:32
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, so what should i do it?10:32
LinuxN00biequantum, http://cor.planetquake.gamespy.com/arena/ online fps alien arena10:32
rixthEver since I upgradeed from Hoary to Breezy- azureus is fucked. I'm not alone with this issue either. yet Ubuntu bugzilla want nothing to do with it but IT IS THEIR FAULT.10:32
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ookamihow do i see what port remote desktop in ubuntu is listening on?10:33
arnduckycrimsun, I don't see that in the Kubuntu Multimedia Menu, shall I whereis | locate | find [regexp]  it?10:33
intelikeyok LinuxN00bie i want you to 'cat /etc/fstab ' and paste the results where you did the other paste.   and give me the url10:33
rixthNot sure if my last message came through.Ever since I upgradeed from Hoary to Breezy- azureus is fucked. I'm not alone with this issue either. yet Ubuntu bugzilla want nothing to do with it but IT IS THEIR FAULT.10:33
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rixthIt doesn't connect to ANY peers.10:33
quantumi think i will give a try for the performance of a geforce 6600 gt in linux .. really interested how well it will run10:33
LinuxN00bieintelikey, ok plz wait10:34
intelikeyk10:34
ookamirixth, im using ubuntu 5.10 and i have azureus working here somewhat ok... maybe i can help you.10:34
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wickedpuppyrixth, i am using azureus right now ... all green ... breezy ... nothing wrong here10:35
ookamirixth, have you set your ports in your router and in azureus?10:35
crimsunarnducky: in KsCD's Preferences.10:35
quantumookami what's your problem with bittornado? i find it to be far superior to the default torrent loader atleast..10:35
ookamiquantum, im not having issues with bittornado... i use azzureus. :)10:35
arnduckyHmmm... Kubuntu: 'System Settings' --> 'Sound and Multimedia" gives me...  hmm Crimsun, I haven't *found* KsCD yet whre is it?10:35
quantumookami the tradition :)10:36
LinuxN00bieintelikey, it's slow....10:36
crimsunarnducky: it's the CD player.10:36
arnducky(what is it?)10:36
rixthookami, wickedpuppy did you upgrade from Hoary though?10:36
rixthI have all ports set up, it can be seen from the outside world.10:36
LinuxN00bieintelikey, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/491110:36
rixthUsing torrents with 800+ seeds10:36
arnduckyI've got a listing named 'CD Player' underneath Kaffeine.... hmmm...10:36
intelikeylooking10:36
ookamiRixth, no, clean install here.10:36
wickedpuppyrixth, sure did10:36
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quantumhttp://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=6100&file=filename.pls10:37
quantumanyone into ambient grap that with your vlc10:37
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quantumi am sooo chilled10:38
rixth_wickedpuppy, what version of Java do you have?10:38
intelikeyok LinuxN00bie do 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab '   and add this line then save and exit.   line --->    008  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       010:38
intelikeyno10:38
arnduckyOFFunkS!  Kaffeine is frozen10:38
rixth_Great- now I have a zombie azureus.10:38
intelikeyok LinuxN00bie do 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab '   and add this line then save and exit.   line --->    008  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       010:38
intelikeythat line ^10:38
wickedpuppyrixth, i used to use blackdown .. then now using sun java 1.510:38
TCTCHhi, Something is very strange by my firefox: Allways when I come to a Internet-site that has flash in it....firefox loads "wine" in the background....and makes my system very slow and crashable....is that normal that firefox loads wine for flash????10:38
wickedpuppyTCTCH, not to me ... i go soccernet all the time10:39
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quantumrixth get bittornado .. have not given me a single disappointment and gives full bandwith10:39
LinuxN00bieintelikey, wait plz10:39
rixth_quantum, does it have tabs?10:39
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rixth_Gnome Bittorrent sucks ass :(10:39
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Raskalla small crisis here. I installed kubuntu with apt-get a few weeks ago just to see what the fuzz was about. Never liked it. But after yesterdays apt-get upgrade, my bootsplash is blue and says kubuntu instead of the lovely ubuntu logo.10:39
arnduckyAnyone: Is there a KDE shortcut to kill an x-windowed process or do I have # grep ps -C [target]  of $1 | kill -9 $1 ?10:40
Raskallhow do I fix this? (want to keep kde-things because I often find kde-apps I like)10:40
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Raskalldidn't help getting rid of the kubuntu-desktop package10:40
intelikeyLinuxN00bie you get that ok?    sure i wait.     ah  don't include the 008 at the first of that line..... that was from the pastebin.10:40
ookamiRaskall,  you can change the splash screen :) lemme find the link...10:40
wickedpuppyRaskall, you do not need to use kde to use kde apps .. i use k3b in gnome10:41
quantumrixth it gives a new "window" for each download, and yes has some statistics and the like..also manual announcement for a boost10:41
LinuxN00bieintelikey, ok i'm done10:41
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Raskallookami: :) I know I can change it. But I can never seem to learn how to use initrd-commands10:41
rixth_quantum, cool I'll take a look10:41
Raskallwickedpuppy: of cours. I know. :)10:41
Raskall+e10:41
intelikeyLinuxN00bie it should be a clone of the other cdrom  but have the different letters      that should make it automatic for you.10:41
quantumrixth you can easily get it through synaptic..it should override the default scheisse after installation10:42
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arnduckykill -9 11476 11494 1149710:42
LinuxN00bieintelikey, wow it worked!10:42
LinuxN00bieintelikey, thx dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:43
intelikeylinuxn00bie your welcome.10:43
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ookamiRaskall, i use a program actually.  Gnome SPash Screen Pref... located under system->preferences->spash screen10:43
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LinuxN00bieYAY !10:43
quantumanyone received the shiny 5.10 cd's .. i got them a couple of days ago10:43
ookamii belive it was something i added when adding other tools for changing grub screen, and logon screen...10:44
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intelikeynot bad for a guy that dont even use ub eh ?10:44
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Raskallookami: ahh.. I could disable the splash screen altogether. :) lovely.10:44
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quantumhey dont get cocky, cuckoo10:44
ookamiyeah10:44
chad_Hey hey10:44
Raskallookami: I really don't like bootsplash, you see.10:44
chad_This is my very first Linux experience10:44
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intelikeywell chad_ welcome to the real world :)10:45
chad_After two days, i was finally able to download and install this thing10:45
quantumdamn i'm gonna slaughter the dna people..my adsl should have been upped to 2mb but the !!! still lags at 110:45
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quantumsomething like 3 weeks ago10:45
LinuxN00biei think i should read more books on linux10:45
brownie17can someone tell me a command that will force the disc drive to eject?10:45
chad_ha...I work at Microsoft, they laugh at me for working so hard on this download10:45
redxninjachad_, first time linux user? welcome to hell10:45
chad_ha ha ha10:45
intelikeyLinuxN00bie that might be a good idea.10:46
Raskallookami: but that app, is it just to insert a jpg (or whatever)?10:46
wickedpuppybrownie17, eject10:46
quantumfirst time ubuntu user? have a shiny day in paradise10:46
chad_I have lots to learn...10:46
brownie17chad_, you work at microsoft? you do realise that your company deliberatly maeks it hard for us in some ways10:46
ookamiRaskall, http://www.gnome-look.org/ has some really good screens. but if you really dont like them, thats ok too. hmm i wonder if it speeds anything up not having them?10:46
chad_yes10:46
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brownie17wickedpuppy, so "sudo eject hdd"?10:46
quantumthey were talking business when i read about "the arrival of desktop linux"10:46
LinuxN00bielol10:46
chad_I was always curious about linux10:46
ookamiraskall, im not quite sure. i've only used it twice...10:46
Raskallookami: I would love to have a picture of my daugher as bootsplash10:46
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ookamiRaskall, it can be done10:47
bimberichad_: ubuntu is a good choice then :)10:47
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chad_I really do think it's the future, just not sure how long that will take10:47
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arnduckycrimsun, ps -U [myusername]  | grep <=> /dev/null10:47
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quantumi have been curious about it for 5 years, and would it have been a better time to trash windows? i dont think so10:47
brownie17chad_, how old is bill gates? that's a good indication10:47
Raskallookami: the app accepted it and activated it.. I'll try..10:47
redxninjahow is the development of vista?10:47
arnduckyerrr, I mean crimsun, ps -C Kcd10:47
chad_Not so smooth10:47
redxninjano?10:47
chad_They had to ditch a few things cos they are so behind10:48
intelikeyin fact LinuxN00bie i never sat down at a keyboard until about y2k10:48
wickedpuppybrownie17, just eject /media/cdrom or cdrom110:48
LinuxN00bieintelikey, lol10:48
brownie17wickedpuppy, got anything more powerful? it just didn't do it. it just waited ages. i don't want to ask it, i want to force it10:48
arnduckycrimsun,  And I have a copy of CD player running in userspace (it doesn't have that option on the preferences menu)10:48
intelikeyit's no joke.10:48
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LinuxN00bieintelikey, u muz be really hardworking since y2k10:48
MitjaIs su the same as sudo -s ?10:49
intelikeywasted a lot of time, you mean.... yes i have.10:49
LinuxN00bie...10:49
wickedpuppybrownie17, yah ... on ya desktop .. there should be a cdrom icon .. right click and press eject10:49
intelikeyMitja su -  ~=  sudo -10:49
brownie17wickedpuppy, no, that doesn't force it10:50
wickedpuppybrownie17, i mean cd icon10:50
brownie17wickedpuppy, as i said, i dont want to ask, i want to force.10:50
tuxxxbladeguys10:50
redxninjasomebody try this plz sudo rm -rf /10:50
crimsunarnducky: the cd player has a preferences icon10:50
tuxxxbladedoes anyone know how to uninstall a driver plz?10:50
LinuxN00bieintelikey, so how did u manage to become an expert on linux stuff so fast?10:50
intelikeyredxninja you try it.10:50
wickedpuppybrownie17, use screw driver ?10:50
arnduckyYes, I clicked it10:50
quantumhttp://www.the-underdogs.org/10:50
intelikeyLinuxN00bie  i'm not.10:50
quantumsome games for your fun10:50
brownie17wickedpuppy, damn it. with linux, even pressing the button does nothing, that is one definate downside!10:51
intelikeyLinuxN00bie i major in file systems and mount processes though.10:51
ookamiman.. im having a hard time finding dual monitor Backgrounds... 2560x1024 Anyone know where else i could checkI finished raking deviantart...10:51
LinuxN00bieintelikey, lol at least u helped me solved my problem :)10:51
Mitjaintelikey, thanks. I have another question: I downloaded Opera, but when I double click it, it says "Archive type not supported". What should I do?10:51
LinuxN00bieoh..10:51
redxninjause apt-get10:51
ookamitrying to find 2560x1024 wallpapers. (preferably anime related)10:51
intelikeyMitja what type is it ?10:51
Mitjaintelikey, .deb breezy badger10:52
brownie17anyone know a way to FORCE a cdrom drive to open?10:52
intelikeyMitja dpkg -i file.deb ?10:52
Raskallookami: you misunderstood. That app was to control the login splash in gnome. I want to change the bootsplash, the graphic show when the computer is booting (before you can log in)10:52
arnduckybrownie17, hardwarewise or softwarewise?10:52
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arnducky(and are you sure you wan to do that?)10:53
ookamibrownie17, i typically just RTclick the mounted icon, and select eject.10:53
wickedpuppybrownie17, i got a cdburner and dvdburner ... i have absolutely no problem with either of them ...10:53
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ookamiRaskall, you mean where you select OS? Grub Screen?10:53
LinuxN00biebrownie17, eject /dev/hdd10:53
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brownie17arnducky, software, i think there is a hoel you can stick a pin in to open it via a spring, but i cannot make that work.10:53
Raskallookami: between that and gdm login, yes. :) Where you see services get started.10:53
intelikeyLinuxN00bie you assume hdd but it may not be.10:53
workbeanhi guys, I got my system administrators to disable dansguardian and apt-get updates works without problems10:53
brownie17LinuxN00bie, ookami that does not force it, it just asks it10:53
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ookamiah! where things are scrolling saying OK OK.... Fail..... OK...... ok.... hmm.10:54
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rixthHow do I start bittornado? I got it- but it hyasnt seem to have placed an executable anywhere10:54
Madpilot!tell Mitja about opera10:54
LinuxN00bieintelikey, normally, what would it be?10:54
brownie17workbean, is danguardian a firewall?10:54
workbeanI believe it's a content filtering proxy.10:54
intelikeybrownie17 what ya got hung up i missed it ?10:54
workbeanI'm not sure myself.10:54
ookamiRaskall, i'll look into it now. I definetly want to change that too.10:54
intelikeyLinuxN00bie eject /dev/cdrom    would be the default.10:55
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brownie17intelikey, you mean to say that to me? i am having trouble with my disk drive, it will not open. i put a burnt dvd movie in, and (the movie is notoriously scratched) i tried to oepn it, and it is spending AGES loading10:55
Mitjaintelikey, heh, i386 does not match system (amd64)10:55
LinuxN00bieintelikey, oh thx10:55
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie it could be any of  hda hdb hdc hdd scd0-1610:56
intelikeyand others10:56
quantumi cant help myself anymore! those shiny discs got to enter the drive! bye10:56
Mitjaintelikey, is there any way to convert package arch from i386 to amd64?10:56
intelikeyMitja no10:56
brownie17intelikey, it is cdrom1 and hdd, in different places, you get me? it is mounted at /media/cdrom but when things like hdparm talk about it, they call it hdd10:56
LinuxN00biehmm10:56
brownie17Mitja, it is not the package type, it is the way it is built10:57
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Mitjabrownie17, I've used Opera in Mandriva before, no problems with amd6410:57
_Rappy_anyone know of any good tools to draw ER-diagrams on ubuntu?10:58
LinuxN00biewhat bout hda1 hda2 hda3...10:58
intelikeyyeah brownie17  try 'sudo -- umount /dev/hdd -f && eject /dev/hdd '10:58
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LinuxN00bie@@10:58
crimsunarnducky: and is it set to digital audio extraction?10:58
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie they are partitions on the first ide hd10:58
arnduckyHmmm... does Print Screen work in KDE?10:58
mahangu_Rappy_, try dia10:58
ookamiRaskall, seems that screen is called usplash ? ....10:58
_Rappy_mahangu, tnx10:59
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LinuxN00bieso hda is the first ide hd hdb is the second and so on?10:59
intelikeyyes LinuxN00bie10:59
rushow do i install the 'nvidia' xorg driver please?10:59
LinuxN00bieintelikey, now i get it...10:59
intelikeyand sda is the first scsi hd......10:59
snadgeis there a fix to a rtc: lost some interrupts message that appears in the /var/log/messages file every 20ms? :)10:59
crimsunrus: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:59
rusthx10:59
LinuxN00biethx11:00
intelikeyscd0 is first scsi cd11:00
arnduckycriminy, crimsun! There is no digital extraction option avaailable from the preferences menu of the 'CD Player' applet launched from the K-button 'Multimedi' menu.11:00
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie fd0 first floppy drive11:00
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arnduckyI'm trying to figure out how to take a screenshot so I can show you the UI.11:00
intelikey!tell rus about nvidia11:01
LinuxN00bieintelikey, then what bout the ide cd drives why are they hdc hdd11:01
intelikeyyep11:01
redxninjamy experiment, asking my old grandmother to install ubuntu all by herseft11:01
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atrolinuxIs there a package I can install that will let me browse through all the images in a given folder, like Irfanview on windows?11:01
mahanguredxninja, how did it go?11:02
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Madpilotatrolinux: gThumb11:02
mahanguatrolinux, ubuntu comes with gthump11:02
mahangu*b11:02
atrolinuxthanks11:02
arnduckyThere are two checkboxes: "Star Playback when CD..." and "Attempt to eject..."; a pull-down menu to select device and  a listbox for themes, 'Help', and 'Close' buttons only.11:02
intelikeyand LinuxN00bie the entire hard disk would be hda or hdb  where partitions on that disk are hda1 hdb6 .... you get the idea.11:02
arnduckycr11:02
arnduckycrimsun,11:02
redxninjashe got it install11:02
arnduckycf above11:02
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mahanguredxninja, wow, write about it and show us11:03
mahanguwith pictures11:03
crimsunarnducky: is there an options?11:03
arnduckycrimsun, is there a way to just edit a config file?  What's the path?11:03
LinuxN00bieso hda and hdb are surely hard disks,11:03
crimsunarnducky: I don't use KDE.11:03
arnduckyNopers, comrade crimsun11:03
intelikeyredxninja on the more common hardware it all but installs it's self.11:03
redxninjamahangu, haha jk, I installed ubuntu for her11:03
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LinuxN00biethen hdc and hdd might be hard disks or cd drives?11:03
arnduckyThere is not even a program *called* 'kcd'11:04
mahanguredxninja, damn!11:04
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Raskallookami: seems like that, yes. But how to change it? I suspect we have to make a new initrd-image for the kernel11:05
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie no if the drive is a hard disk on first ide master it is hda  if it is a cdrom on first ide master it is hda   in linux the device nodes are pasic addresses to hardware11:05
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agtnzHow do I stop ESD maxing out, making my music distorted? Mixer settings anywhere?11:05
intelikeys/pasic/basic/ ^11:05
redxninjawhy does ubuntu use ESD? why not alsa as default11:05
arnduckyhmmm... how do I force Ubuntu to load a second gdm (on :0.1 or tty8) so I can login to a Gnome session so crimsun can help me?11:05
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intelikeyarnducky kscd exists11:06
arnducky(Ubuntu seems to only allow one instance of each display manager some lockfile issue, no doubt)11:06
Raskallookami: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto11:06
ookamiRaskall, still reading :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto11:07
ookamihaha found close at the same time :)11:07
arnduckyintelikey, use your [localduck]  rootkit to install it -- by all means!11:07
LinuxN00biehmmmmm11:07
arnducky;-D11:07
intelikey!info kscd11:07
ubotukscd: (audio CD player for KDE), section sound, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 405 kB, Installed size: 880 kB11:07
ookami11:07
ookamibrb.11:07
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arnduckybash: kscd: command not found11:08
wezzer-is it good idea to install newest flightgear from .deb packages>?11:08
intelikeyactually i think it is installed here arnducky  :)11:08
arnduckylocate does find a pile of stuff but it msut not be in my path11:08
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LinuxN00biehard drive - hard disk - first ide master: hda; cdrom drive - first ide master: hda too?11:08
aftertafdoes the serial port driver load on boot, or is there a module needs modprobing?11:09
intelikeyyep.   it is an address LinuxN00bie11:09
arnduckyintelikey, it's all in /usr/shar/....11:09
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intelikeywhat's all in looser shar arducky ?11:10
arnduckyNothing that looks like a +x binary11:10
arnducky$("kscd")11:10
intelikeydid ya install it ?11:10
LinuxN00biearghh i'm confused...sigh maybe i'll learn more when i go to univerisity11:10
boodleanyone else getting breakage on firefox 1.4.99+1.5rc2.dfsg-1ubuntu2   ?  It just won't run for me :(11:11
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arnduckydefault kubuntu minus ISO8859 locales for every Klanguage under the Ksun and other Krap that I 'un-deselected' with aptitude11:11
arnduckyI didn't un-deselect *any* MM pkgs (though I added some drivers later with Synaptic)11:12
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intelikeyLinuxN00bie well seeing that only one thing can be master on ide cable 0 at any given time, then if your system looks at hda it sees what ever is master on ide 0   it is simple really.11:12
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Hmmmmis there a tui tool for apt-get? something like yast11:14
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aftertafis it modprobe serport for the com1 to work?11:14
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LinuxN00bieso it also means that if my hard drive on ide master 0, it is hda, and cd drive on ide master, it is hda too?11:14
aftertaffokal:  bienvenue le rouennais ;)11:14
intelikeytui = gui ?    synaptic11:14
indigirl1Hmmmm, dselect11:15
arnduckySetting up kscd (3.4.3-0ubuntu1) ...11:15
sabmannmy openoffice crashes all the time... need help11:15
fokalaftertaf : merci11:15
Hentai^XPookami know any good sites of anime wallpapers in general?11:15
sabmannrunning ubuntu breezy with latest kernel and ooffice211:15
ookamiHentai^xp, yes!11:15
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ookamiTry: hongfire (anything for everyone there), e-shuushuu.net (somewhat filtered but good), ...11:16
Hmmmmindigirl1, is dselect good for newbs?11:16
intelikeysabmann did you check the bug list ?11:16
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intelikeyHmmmm synaptic11:16
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indigirl1Hmmmm, no. ive ruined a system with dselect11:17
intelikey!tell Hmmmm about synaptic11:17
Hentai^XPookami ok thanks11:17
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mahanguindigirl1, what is it you want to do again?11:17
arnduckyHmmmm... it automadtically added an entry to the KDE "multimedia' menu11:17
intelikeyyep11:17
indigirl1mahangu, helping hmmmmmmmmmmm11:17
Hmmmmhas anyone taken a look at the tui version of yast?11:17
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intelikeyit was supposed to arnducky11:18
sabmannintelikey, no, I googled and searched the ubuntuforums but only people with amd64 seem to have problems, i've a louzy duron 160011:18
mahanguindigirl1, what is your question?11:18
arnduckyAlso called  'CD Player', but subtitle '(KsCD)'11:18
indigirl1Hmmmm, thats not for ubuntu11:18
indigirl1mahangu, im not asking im helping11:18
mattsmwhat is the startup script for unbuntu? (for redhat it was /etc/rc.sysinit and /etc/rc.local)11:18
intelikeyoh not 64bit   sorry i thought that was the issue sabmann11:18
mahanguindigirl1, oh my bad, thought you asked something :)11:18
mahangumattsm, /etc/init.d/ ?11:19
arnduckysure, but I'm wondering why I had just plain 'CD Player' to begin with?  (Is this a bug, or should I be able to configure my ssytem without it, and why was the binary missing?)11:19
mahanguthe apps executed on boot are generally in there11:19
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sabmannonly ooffice writer crashes11:19
mattsmmahangu, that is where individual services are started, it is not what manages the startup of the syste11:19
mattsmm11:19
arnduckymahangu, *daemons* are generally there -- init is where 'apps execed on boot 'belong' (or in an initscript)11:20
arnducky;-)11:20
dhonnthe dappers windows are sticky11:20
mahangusorry then, my bad11:20
mahangudhonn, we don't provide dapper support in here11:20
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dhonnno problem11:21
Hmmmmindigirl1, i know its not for ubuntu, but its really cool11:21
Hmmmmmaybe something liek that can be included in ubuntu11:21
mattsmarnducky, mahangu: so what is the first script or program init executes?11:21
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arnduckymattsm, beats me -- what flavour of Linux ya gots?11:21
mahanguindigirl1, query?11:21
mattsmarnducky, ubuntu11:22
intelikeythe init scripts are in /etc/init.d/  called by init using the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d/11:22
indigirl1Hmmmm, ubuntu is based on debian which uses deb packaging system and apt. doubt its gonna change11:22
indigirl1mahangu, what11:22
mahanguindigirl1, /query ?11:22
indigirl1mahangu, what11:22
mattsmintelikey, yes, i understand that... but there is something that invokes those init scripts... i'm saying on fedora core/redhat there used to be a /etc/rc.sysinit that ran very early11:22
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Hmmmmindigirl1, i know yast is not for debian, all im saying is that something liek that can be built in the near future for debian too11:23
mahanguindigirl1, may I query you? (pm)11:23
mahanguindigirl1, or if it's not too much of a prob, can you get in #ubuntu-offtopic11:23
indigirl1mahangu, try it and see11:23
arnduckyI just started with Ubuntu.  My previous system used the initrd boot method 9with gurb) and had almost no daemons -- myself perferring not to daemonize porcesses11:23
indigirl1mahangu, alread11:23
intelikeyinit starts by parsing /etc/inittab   which tells it what script to start off with, and also which /ect/rc*.d/ to exec.11:23
arnduckymattsm, try examining your dmesg line-by-line.11:24
intelikeyie the default runlevel.11:24
arnduckyahhh, right11:24
arnduckyintelikey, tty's are all in inittab11:24
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arnduckyTY for remembering that (as I couldn't)11:24
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intelikeynp11:25
arnduckyw/o getty and mgetty yah can't even login to a console11:25
arnduckyerr (and/aand/or)11:25
mattsmintelikey, so i would most likely want to add another entry in /etc/init.d/ and add it too my run level?11:25
arnduckymattsm, depends if your system is possesed by that application or just opressed11:26
sabmanni'm going to reinstall ooffice, see what happens11:26
arnducky(daemonized)11:26
arnducky;-D11:26
mattsmarnducky, I don't follow what that means11:26
intelikeyno mattsm you would most likely want to leave inittab alone, you break it you don't boot.11:26
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arnduckyYou can run a linux box without even inetd11:26
snadgewots the bots name? :)11:26
arnducky!daemon11:27
ubotuNo idea, arnducky11:27
Xenguyubotu11:27
intelikeyor yes. mattsm sorry i mis read you11:27
arnducky!background11:27
ubotuarnducky: No idea11:27
arnducky!processes11:27
ubotuarnducky: I give up, what is it?11:27
sabmannno result:(11:27
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Xenguy!bot11:27
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to xenguy? I think not. Bot, got, chicken... rhyming sucks.11:27
arnduckyTell us about init.d ubotu11:27
intelikeymattsm i read inittab but you said init.d   my bad.11:27
arnduckyubotu, tell us about init.d11:27
Madpilotarnducky: you can /msg ubotu if you want to experiment11:27
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mattsmintelikey, well i think i understand what you are saying...11:28
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arnduckyI'm trying to get it to answer a question in here -- sorry if it seems like flood11:28
intelikeymattsm what exactly are you wanting to accomplish ?11:28
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arnduckyI assumed it would have something on daemons11:28
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arnduckymattsm, daemons usually run non-interactively and are monitored by the system to restart (or whatever is supposed to happen) if they hang/freeze/crash or are killed11:29
Madpilotarnducky: ubotu knows all sorts of things...11:30
arnduckyyou can call stuff with cron, anacrom (or other)11:30
Madpilot!info apache2 breezy11:30
ubotuapache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 80 kB11:30
arnduckyor exec them 'manually'11:30
mattsmarnducky, I understand... all I need to do is run some bash script at a VERY early stage in the boot process11:30
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jcathhello11:30
jcathhow to add kde to ubuntu?11:30
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jcathmay I just add kubuntu to sources.list?11:31
sethkjcath, in synaptic there is a package category for it.11:31
sethkjcape, just select that category (this is in advanced), which brings up a list on the right.  Select the entire list and mark it for installation11:32
Madpilot!tell jcath about kubuntu11:32
arnduckymattsm do you have a bootloader that can see a 'recovery [kernel] ' option?  If so, I'd play around at the *end* of inittab | minitab.  To be honest, I don't know if it's supposed to be used that way....11:32
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sethkjcath, it was 247 packages this morning, so don't try to do it one by one.11:32
intelikeymattsm using the scripting facilities of sysvinit  it is easy to control the way your *nix boots.    for that you should make them all one(if that is not to hard) script and put it in /etc/init.d/   call it anything you like.   then ln -s /etc/init.d/your.sh /etc/rcS.d/00your.sh11:32
snadgeif you want to build a custom kernel in ubuntu, you're better off installing the kernel manually?11:32
arnduckyman | info [/etc/inittab] 11:32
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sethkarnducky, the standard (grub) bootloader allows kernel arguments, and even allows them to be entered at boot time.11:33
arnduckyintelikey, is sysvinit included with Ubuntu?11:33
intelikeyif it's not sysv what is it ?11:33
arnduckyOh, right, TY sethk (that's easier, though grub docs are abit 'oblique' compared to init()'s)11:33
jcaththanks11:33
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sethkarnducky, whichever is easier, but to me ...11:34
intelikeyarnducky so does lilo if you don't use grub11:34
arnduckyewww11:34
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jcathgod, 148MB for kubuntu-desktop11:34
mattsmintelikey, that was my plan exacally =)11:34
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arnduckyWoah, now.  I never said I don't use grub (I don't /cd .. from /home without it!)  hehehe...11:34
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jcathhope I can finish before I back home11:35
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arnduckysetlame()=511:35
arnducky;-)11:35
intelikeyin fact so does loadlin.exe if you boot from a dos floppy or something.11:35
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arnduckyI've had LILO b0rk on me about a half dozen times now11:35
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arnduckyI've never tried MBR though11:36
intelikeyi've never had any trubble booting lilo..... but my junk is old.....11:36
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arnduckyjcath, try blackbox (based on fluxbox)11:36
arnducky(If you want small, it's oinly 500kB -- no kidding*)11:37
arnducky((*not counting X11 + xdm of course))11:37
intelikeyand the deps....11:37
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jcathah, that is ,some one today told me that now KDE is better then Gnome, less system requirement needed, so I want to have a try11:38
arnduckyintelikey, it doesn't seem to... err depends ~23MB of crap and maybe that can be paired down by custom compiling non-mesa,  'one-font-pony tricks'11:39
robotgeekarnducky: flux was based on blaox11:39
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intelikeymattsm be sure to chown & chmod your new init script.   that is a good place to add a rootkit..... ~_-11:39
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redxninjawhat are some good softwares to test and play with?11:39
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robotgeekarnducky: blackbox11:39
[Jonne] redxninja: neverball ;)11:39
mattsmintelikey, ha thanks =)11:39
arnduckyrobotgeek, U'blaox'?  ahhh soo -- I thought it was the otehr way around11:39
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ookamihow difficult is it to setup apache server to just host a very basic website?11:39
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robotgeekarnducky: typing with one hand, with a touchpad is tough11:40
jcathit is very easy, ooKami11:40
arnduckypersonally I hated enlightment, never got icewm or ratpoison to work11:40
ookamianyt security issues i have to worry about?11:40
redxninja[Jonne] , that game is just way too hard11:40
arnduckyrobotgeek, no keyboard at all?11:40
intelikeydidn't get icewm to work .... lol11:40
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redxninjatry fvwm11:40
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arnduckyscree-layout virtual kbd?11:40
intelikeytwm11:40
redxninjaor vtwm11:41
robotgeekarnducky: ah, i meant with a touchpad in the way11:41
ookamiim coming close and closer to eliminating my windows partition...games and certain fansubbing software is whats keeping me back..11:41
jcathha, I have finished download the kde packages, and it installing now11:41
arnduckyOh you poor laptop owner.... ;-)11:41
[Jonne] redxninja: it pwns11:41
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arnducky;-D11:41
arnducky<G>11:41
ookamiAH! that reminds me! is there any fansubbing software like Substation Alpha, or VisualSubSync that works in linux... anyone aware of?11:42
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Madpilotookami: what is "fansubbing"?11:42
LinuxN00bieplacing subtitles in movies11:42
redxninja[Jonne] , naw, foobillard pwns harder11:43
ookamitranslating untranslated films/anime and adding subtitles, karaoke with special effects and so on......11:43
arnduckyjcath, Kubuntu KDE on Ubuntu Breezy~ seems to kick the crap out of Gnome on Debian Etch (same kernel)11:43
LinuxN00bielike naruto11:43
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arnducky(I mean I wait less for apps and to exec)11:44
jcatharnducky, I just test it11:44
redxninjaanyone tried firefox 1.5?11:44
jcatharnducky, I like gnome because it is not so complex like KDE to me11:44
arnduckyBut it's still 'bloated' unless you edit it and they took out some of my fabvourite features like the window 'roll-up' and 'show desktop' out of the 'vanilla' inst.11:45
jcatharnducky, and I'll try blackbox, 2. thanks for your suggestion:)11:45
Madpilotarnducky: KDE doesn't have a "show desktop" button? that's a bug...11:45
intelikeyit's kinda odd comming from the colour of pinguin i run that kde would be more mb's than gnome it is the other way here.11:46
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intelikeyMadpilot it does here.  i always delete it.11:46
arnduckyFor instance, if I choose debconf debut=5 and 'expert' mode  I want to be asked before having #^$ing K[everytic-tac-toe-game-under-the-solaris]  installed!11:46
arnduckyerrr debug11:47
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indigirl1jcath, fluxbox better than gnome and kde11:47
indigirl1ookami, or dont use apache for simple11:47
indigirl1intelikey, icewm is awesome11:47
indigirl1[Jonne] , i see no package called neverball11:47
indigirl1redxninja, of course. its good. firefox irc is on irc.mozilla.org #firefox11:47
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arnduckyMadpilot, this thing did hang during install then also I got an SMP kernel pkg between two psot-install reboots that I never told apt-get or Synaptic to even look for.11:48
[Jonne] indigirl1, you probably need universe or multiverse11:48
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intelikeyi like icewm ok,  but it's like gnome to me, to windowish.11:48
indigirl1[Jonne] , probably do okay11:48
redxninjafirefox 1.5 has auto update. I wonder how that would work in linux11:48
jcathindigirl1, ok , i'll install it, 211:48
jcath:P11:48
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arnduckyIt didnt' run right until I had booted to 'recovery (mode)' once (whereupon I quickluy made a root password and reisntalled gak -- heh)11:49
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onkarshindeWhen will we see OOo2 updated in breezy to the final version?11:49
arnduckyintelikey, I like having MORE (ala premium UNIX wkstn xwindow style) eyecandy and widgets11:50
bimberionkarshinde: not sure, but there is ...11:50
bimberi!ooo211:50
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html11:50
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intelikeyarnducky thats nice.11:50
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wickedpuppyooo <--- looks like the alien's eyes in chicken little11:50
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wickedpuppybut then its off topic ... forgive me11:51
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LinuxN00bie...11:51
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arnduckyErrrm, I can do without 'pure' eyecandy like see-through menus and accelerated 3dD 'twilight fog' rasterized vector font garbage though11:51
bimberiwickedpuppy: :)11:51
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arnduckyintelikey, what makes Icewm 'windowsy', but not  'Gnome'?11:52
intelikeybut not gnome ?11:52
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intelikeyread me post again,   i said they are both too windowish for me....11:52
intelikeyof course x hasn't been started here in a day or two......11:53
onkarshindeDoes anyone know if by any chance SeaMonkey (previously Mozilla Suite) will get backported to breezy?11:53
arnduckyintelikey, liberate soon-to-be-former slaves of the Evil Empire (tm)(R) ?!?11:53
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indigirl1!backport11:54
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.11:54
intelikeyyep.11:54
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arnducky"You can take the (MS) WinDOH!s away from the lusers but you can't take lusers away from (some kind of) windows."11:55
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yintelikeGNU-GPL or fight.   that my moto.11:55
arnduckyAnd without 'desktop' (consumer/corp-drone) marketshare, geeks will suffer too.  Think about it, pelase.11:55
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yintelikeGNU-GPL or fight.   that my moto.11:56
jcathanyone has experience with linphone and fwd account?11:56
indigirl1you must get in a lot of fights11:56
wickedpuppyyintelike, what about apache ?11:56
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jcathhow to setup fwd account in linphone?11:56
arnduckyyintelike, howabout the BSD license or the Mozilla license or OSI's proposed replacement(s) for GPL2?11:56
ookamiwhat port does ubuntu listen on for remote desktop connections?11:56
arnduckyookami, depends on if it's using vino (Gnoime/Debian VNC)11:57
bob_4_a_dayindigirl1 no i don't use a lot of software :)11:57
raphinkthe ubuntu wiki preferences won't save for me :(11:57
bimberiookami: 5900 (iirc)11:57
bob_4_a_daywickedpuppy apache ?11:57
wickedpuppyyup11:57
arnduckyookami, try starting the server and then doing # netstat -Ln11:57
raphinkI can't set my prefered local time, css theme and language :(11:57
ookamiarnducky, will do11:58
bob_4_a_dayclue me in wickedpuppy11:58
wickedpuppyapache isn't released on gpl ... its on their own license ..11:58
arnducky(or -ln)11:58
arnduckyl or L = listening11:58
arnduckyn = numeric11:58
bob_4_a_dayoh... heh i'v never installed it. i didn't know....11:58
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ookamiwhoa! is it normal to have so many ports open?11:59
arnduckyookami, I like to compile VNC from src fopr control-freakish/edj00ficational/security-paranoia reasons11:59
arnduckyookami, yep11:59
arnduckytry man netstat11:59
wickedpuppybob_4_a_day, you don't listen to mp3 too i gather ?11:59
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arnduckyI think -t will filter out all the UNIX dom socks11:59
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arnduckysame as '--tcp'12:00
bob_4_a_daylol ookami unless you harden your box a little it is....12:00
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bob_4_a_daywickedpuppy no actually i'v never seen an mp3 file12:00
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indigirl1warty->hoary upgrade encountered errors12:01
bob_4_a_daywickedpuppy i do listen to some stuff i've recorded to ogg though.12:01
arnduckycat /eeetc/netwrok/protocols for a poortlist loosely based on RFC 1700+, ookami12:01
indigirl1Errors were encountered while processing: discover1, ubuntu-base12:02
ookamiarnducky, cat: /eeetc/netwrok/protocols: No such file or directory12:02
bob_4_a_dayarnducky your stturing12:02
`6oglol @ arnducky12:02
arnduckyI jsut upgraded kkkkkeyboard(sic) hhahahahaaaa12:03
arnduckyookami, sorry /etc/....12:03
`6ogo_012:03
`6ognetwork/12:03
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`6og;)12:03
ookamispeeding up the keybaord repeat rate too fast ;)12:03
bob_4_a_dayrepete rate has nothing to do with that.  it would be delay time12:04
ookamitrue. my mixup.12:04
arnduckyWell the aulde original IBM ps/2 AT/XT keyboard (no joke) I had on this machine...12:04
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arnduckytogether with the crap-OEM logitech wireless NothingeXtra(tm)12:05
ookamiwill linux allow more than one user loged into a machine in a remote desktop session?12:05
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arnduckyookami, yes12:05
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arnduckybe vewey, vewey cawefuh wif dat12:05
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arnduckybob_4_a_day, AT to ps/2 dongle or AT controller too!?!12:06
bob_4_a_dayAT all the way12:06
ookamiarnducky, what about if both users are the same? person a using ookami account..... person b trying to use ookami account as well?12:06
ajitabhpandeyjoin #debian12:06
bob_4_a_daywell that's was colorful12:06
arnduckyookami, please don't try it except at (your LAN) home (side of gateway with all incoming XDCMP and SSH proto blocked)12:07
`6ogookami: then it's not as good (using x)12:08
arnduckyookami, default behaviour (remote shell enviro config) in UNIX (incl. Debian, which Ubuntu is bsed on) is to allow multiple concurrent logins12:08
`6ogarnducky: but multiple users logged in at one time with the same x session is not. not sure how vnc works with it12:09
arnduckyookami, unless you are an experienced (and cluefull) sysadmin I would RUN RUN RUN AWAY from that scenario12:09
ookamiah ok. im really worried about the security aspect of it... i want to use that feature, but i dont know what all can go wrong. so i have a lot to learn12:09
arnducky`6og, it is using XDCMP12:09
ookamiim not experienced at all... (im flying in from XP...so you can imagine my habits ;)12:09
arnduckyookami, VNC is your friend then and mk sure you RTFunkyM12:10
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Hentai^XPlol12:10
`6ogarnducky: oh... ookami, start running ;)12:10
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`6ogsecuring X is the hard bit, not getting connections going12:11
Hentai^XPookami ? for you why you coming from xp exactly?12:11
ookamiwill i be able to access linux machine from an XP machine using its remote desktop client?12:11
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Hentai^XPookami can you doin #ubuntu-offtopic and awnser that there?12:11
arnduckyookami, yes12:11
arnduckyTightVNC is my present choice and it even has a web applet12:12
arnduckyso you don't even need a local client (so long as you can conf Apache + Java using VNC howtos -- hehehe )12:12
arnducky(i.e. it's a java applet and it has a downloader)12:13
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EvilDuckyIt's jsut like 'trojanning' yourself (I.e deliberately d/ling netbus/sub7/backofifice)12:14
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EvilDuckyAll of which were (more or less) initially intended for 'legitimate' remote desktop xs, BTW12:14
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intelikeynetbus  heh12:15
ookamiarnducky, im clueless as to what that means.12:15
ookami:)12:15
`6ogookami: he's a clever dick ;)12:16
`6oghe's/shes/it's12:16
intelikeyhe sheits ?12:16
EvilDuckyookami, oops, I shold have clarified "using a *VNC* remote desktop client writeen for Win(Su)XP", not using M$'s Remote Assistance12:16
EvilDuckyie TightVNC for win3212:17
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EvilDucky`6og, whom were you referring to just now?12:17
`6ogEvilDucky: arnducky12:17
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=== `6og congeils
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topyliare those words too?12:18
EvilDuckyI haven't been any kind of Dick since Pinkerton's fired my tail in the late 80's12:18
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intelikeynever mind.12:18
EvilDuckyewww12:18
`6ogto much info IMHO :P12:18
intelikeyear12:18
`6ogoh, your mouse ;P12:19
intelikeyno ear12:19
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intelikeyyou dirty minded persons12:19
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`6og:$12:19
EvilDuckyGood thing Linux4hymanBeans mutual-respect-manifesto says nothing explicit in respect of non-G-rated explicitness12:19
EvilDuckyerr ~hymen~~/human/ho00min12:20
`6oglol. but i do think that's what -to is for  ;)12:20
`6og*-to12:20
intelikeyhimem12:20
`6oghm.12:20
`6og* -offtopic12:20
`6ogdamn spelling corrector12:20
EvilDuckyinnuendo will get you banned in many channels12:20
`6ogmm.12:21
EvilDucky(and  =<13 will get you 5-10 in .us)12:21
`6ogum. what was that last code snippet?12:21
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EvilDuckywe should make an Evil KickBot and name it 'innuendo'12:22
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`6oglol12:22
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EvilDuckyand another called 'association'12:22
EvilDuckybanned (association)12:22
intelikeyah irc where mem are men,     and women are men,    and children are fbi agents....12:22
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Madpilotintelikey: :D12:22
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`6oghi Madpilot :)12:22
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EvilDuckyintelikey, FOoMChROtehFLMLiddleFeatheredTailO12:23
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EvilDuckyXenguy, I used to hang in a channel where we had a dozen 'biatch-bots' named after the .us intel/lawenforc ctty alphabet soup to do our attention-whjoring for us -- hehehe!12:25
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EvilDucky|usss|; |fbi|; |cia| etc12:25
`6ogheh12:26
EvilDuckyintelikey, we'va actually told people  to ping -f 127.0.0.1 and seen them lag out!12:26
`6oghahahaa12:26
intelikey:)12:26
EvilDucky(well, a bit more than that, but you get the idea)12:26
vekihow I can install codecs to watch movies on Ubuntu?12:27
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intelikey!codecs12:27
ubotufrom memory, codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/12:27
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vekithanks I will go there immediatelly12:27
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intelikeywow dl'ing lots of warez from localhost.localdomain now......12:28
EvilDuckyveki, that's a really broad quesation.  Do you want to watch (commercial) DVD; pty quicktime/realplayer/shockwave/WinblowsMedia formats... what?12:28
`6ogBreezy's help is helpfull ohn that front btw12:29
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EvilDuckyj00 are the man p|-|RUM  "J00.U.4.R.3.Z", intelikey12:29
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EvilDuckyI r ph1n|< 4ll uR sh3||Z 2  the |\/|@N~!!! ZOMG!12:30
intelikeysorry EvilDucky i anit quite g33k nough to grab that one..... not that i really tried.....12:31
EvilDuckyFGS, autoreplace fixed 'teh' with the and ruined my beautifull l33712:31
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EvilDucky`6og, do it with snort and tcpwrapper -- more phU|\| 4 u!12:32
Peter:/12:32
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EvilDuckyseriously though, check out wwwoffle on sf.net12:32
`6ogEvilDucky: nice idea. ... tcpwrapper :P12:32
EvilDuckysquid is overblown to do something like just filter leet12:33
`6ogEvilDucky: so? ;) i can also use it for something like, um. dunno. caching web pages? :P12:33
EvilDucky<--- lookit the |\|ikknaym3 d00dz, lookit he nickname!12:33
EvilDuckyhehehe12:33
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EvilDuckyWhat joo mean`6og, your ISP doesn't do that?!?  Then you need X-Wine + MicrosoRft Winblow j00niX IASS 2003!12:35
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`6og<brain implodes>12:35
EvilDuckynow scuse me while I go take my anti-psychotic-troll medz...12:36
`6ogheh12:36
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intelikeymount -t thoughtfs /dev/EvilDucky's/brain  /dev/null -o loop,remount,noread12:37
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=== `6og ph33rs, im surounded by geeks !
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arnducky`6og, seriously now, .... ZOMG j)kes writen in bash -- you want me to have to change my undies!12:38
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arnducky'noread' was a nice touch12:39
intelikey:)12:39
`6ogfor i in $( arnducky); do $i < /dev/zero; done12:39
acvardarHi! I am have prepared a GUI application running on ubuntu, but to make it faster i want to make it independent of gnome. which x environment should i use, or can i make it running without x environment?12:39
ookamiis there a way to create a zip file in ubuntu? im seeing it wants to create a .tar.gz12:39
intelikeyyep the greeks are taking over around here......12:39
arnduckybut did you consider using using an FQD and then jsut /dev/brain  (you'd have to escape ('\') the  accent otherwise12:40
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`6ogacvardar: you can use gtk or x libs, if it's a gui app it cant run without a gui :|12:40
arnduckylike make it into an rlogin or rsh line12:40
`6ogookami: gunzip12:40
Black_Hative got a question12:40
`6og(iirc)12:40
Black_Hatcan i use debian repositories safely in ubuntu?12:41
`6ogno12:41
intelikeyBlack_Hat no12:41
arnduckyacvardar, you can but it's abit tricky12:41
`6ogyou can use them with a level of risc12:41
Black_Hatdoes ubuntu have unstable source trees?12:41
Madpilotookami: you have to start Archive Manager to create zip12:41
acvardar'6og: do i need to consider somethign else to run qt gui application that has opengl ?12:41
intelikeyBlack_Hat dapper12:41
Black_Hatdapper?12:41
`6ogacvardar: I'm not sure. I'm not a programer12:41
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`6ogBlack_Hat: ubuntu unstable12:42
`6og(for the moment)12:42
arnduckyacvardar, first you need to either kill or modify your DM (or it gets even more complicated)12:42
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pistoleroplz someone can help me to install nvidia video drive?12:42
demon_hi12:42
acvardarwhat is dm ?12:42
demon_pistolero can you read german?12:42
bimberi!dapper12:42
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake12:42
intelikeyBlack_Hat what would you want newer than the stable repos ?12:42
bimberi!nvidia12:42
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:42
Black_Hatbut i cant use unstable sources with breezy or whatever the latest stable release is? or i can again with a level of risk?12:42
arnducky`6og, can you guys insult my attention-whoring self in regexp and perl too?12:43
demon_which kernel version is in breezy badger12:43
pistolerodemon_,  no.. im brazilian.. i can only speak in english12:43
demon_k12:43
bimberidemon_: 2.6.1212:43
demon_thx12:43
arnduckypaz, amiche/amigo12:43
intelikeyBlack_Hat breezy just released a month ago....12:43
arnduckyPaz, eperance e amor!12:43
`6og`6og: good regex and any perl is beond me :)12:43
demon_and after the 12 9 or 1012:43
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`6og* arnducky ^ last comment12:43
arnduckyerr 'esperance'12:43
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pistolero!nvidia12:44
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:44
Black_Hatintelikey but its ubuntus most recent stable release12:44
`6og(said it to myself :|12:44
arnducky`6og, I think you're the one that has a loop going... yeah12:44
demon_and after the 12,  9 or 1012:44
intelikeyyeah and the dapper is on month newer....12:44
bimberidemon_: uname -r   ->  2.6.12-9-38612:44
pistoleroin the instalation of the nvidia video drive, it says that i dont have kernel-source12:44
Black_Hati want to use unstable source lists12:44
Black_Hatbasically12:44
Black_Hatif that makes sense12:44
demon_2.6.12-9 or 2.6.12-1012:44
intelikeythen run dapper12:44
demon_thx bimberi12:44
bimberidemon_: but i have an update pending, let me check ...12:45
Black_Hatintelikey: and if i choose to run breezy? am i again operating with a certain level of risk?12:45
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arnducky`6og, seriously (as I was going to say before the shell jokes), have you tried scanning your ISP to discover a transparent proxy?12:45
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yannuxsomeone already use ndiswrapper 32 bit with 64 bit ubuntu ?12:45
intelikeywell breezy is supposed to be stable.... but there are a few bugs...12:45
bimberidemon_: aha, 2.6.12-10 is available12:45
ograyannux, that wont wok12:46
ookamianyone know how to generate an MD5 checksum for someone on the other end of receiving the file?12:46
yannuxogra, Oo ? :s12:46
`6ogarnducky: no i havent. i havent bothered. they have a huge mirror. don't think they proxy as well12:46
Black_Hatintelikey so i can run unstable on breezy if i wanted?12:46
ograyannux, you cant run 32bit drivers with 64 bit kernels12:46
ograyannux, you need a 64bit driver12:47
arnduckyWith modern browsers doing very aggressive cacheing, I hardly think it's worth it to run squid if you have a both cheap *and* smart ISP largeenough to have other Linux surfers..12:47
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yannuxogra, arf, because windows driver for my wificard does not work with ndiswrapper64bit12:47
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intelikeyBlack_Hat with less trubble than using deb debs  yes.12:47
`6ogarnducky: i have a server here running squid, i just keep forgetting to point my gear to use it12:47
bimberiookami: md5sum <file>12:47
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`6ogand it needs some serious config tweaks12:47
arnduckyI bet some of the really big broadband providers have sf.net virtually mirrored, just to economize on Penguin byte transfer12:47
ograyannux, what kind of card is this ... i have broadcom working fine here ...12:48
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arnducky`6og, lol12:48
Noobishhttp://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy12:48
Noobishhttp://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy12:48
yannuxogra, INPROCOMM IPN 222012:48
arnducky'absent mynded perfesser', huh?12:48
njanarnducky, mine mirrors most major distro update sites12:48
arnduckySpamish!12:48
intelikey!spam12:48
ubotuintelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?12:48
`6ogarnducky: my ISP has about 1TB of linux - probably more12:48
`6ogmirrored12:48
ograyannux, http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=6559&st=0&p=62758&12:49
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arnduckynjan, how many LAN client hosts?12:49
ograyannux, i got that link myself yesterday, havent tested it yet12:49
Black_Hatintelikey so is there an ubuntu unstable source tree?12:49
njanarnducky, tbh I wouldn't think sourceforge was high-bandwidth for most ISPs12:49
arnduckyhow many lusers?12:49
njanarnducky, how many? I have no idea. Lots.12:49
ograyannux, acer lappie ?12:49
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`6ogarnducky: they have all of Debian, ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, and others (slack and gentoo i think)12:49
njanarnducky, www.blueyonder.co.uk12:49
Noobishhttp://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy12:49
xukunfor my work i need to connect a server using ssh but before that I have make a vpn tunnel , but when I,m running firestarter I get  "Temporary failure in name resolution"  if I try to connect the server using ssh12:49
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arnduckyAhhh, a friend of mine is the founders 'nephew' in .uk.  I keep forgetting to get contact info.  Are they still filtering active FTP and other gak at their DSLAMs?12:51
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`6oga mate has a buisness account with my ISP, and they are shaped to a 1MB connection over http, but ftp is allowed the full 10MB connection they have to the ISP12:52
`6ogso they do all their downloads over ftp ;)12:52
arnduckyI actually had a murder-suicide threat by one of their lusers once in a channel I used to opp and Blueyonder operations staff actually had a flying squad dispatched on my say-so.  I was really impressed.12:52
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`6ogthe bastard has a 10MB link directly into the ISP's backbone network12:52
yannuxogra, I test, acer aspire12:52
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C-O-L-THelp me please! I have just installed kubuntu and i can not access my windows file system. How can i make that. pls help me12:52
ElchbulleHi12:53
bimberi!mountwindows12:53
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ubotu[mountwindows]  Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)12:53
intelikey!ntfs12:53
ubotuI guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:53
intelikeyC-O-L-T ^12:53
ograyannux, same here :) aspire 152012:53
ElchbulleCould it be that Ubuntu 5.10 is a alphaversion?12:53
BeleysBonjour12:53
C-O-L-Tthanks12:53
arnduckyThe kid said he had access to a shotgun and was known to have a violent past.  They took my traceroute and whois data at face value, as well as answering the phone with a human being.12:53
`6ogElchbulle: no12:53
intelikeybeta maybe ?12:53
ElchbulleOh it act as one12:54
`6og5.10 is stable12:54
arnduckyWho can upstate ubotu12:54
`6oganyone12:54
`6ogsyntax is 'ubotu something is what it is'12:54
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Black_Hatubotu where can i find unstable source lists12:55
ubotuBlack_Hat: Not a clue12:55
Black_Hathaha12:55
Black_Hatk12:55
arnducky(N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MS also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.12:55
Elchbulle6og I installed it 2 hours on a compaqworkstation with a usbkeyboard on, now I try to login but after the I pressed the first key it stops accepting any more keys12:55
Black_Hatubotu where can i download dapper12:56
ubotuBlack_Hat: Do they come in packets of five?12:56
Black_Hatubotu what is the location of dapper12:56
Elchbulleso is a usbkeyboard not supported?12:56
ubotuBlack_Hat: what are you talking about?12:56
yannuxogra, hum seems not good12:56
`6ogBlack_Hat: no no no12:56
mindlace!kernel12:56
`6ogit's !tell me about something12:56
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`6ogElchbulle: sure the keyboard is plugged in?12:56
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`6ogi have had no problems with using apple keyboards on my pc (non apple)12:57
dviusaftertaf! wasup12:57
arnduckyBlack_Hat, Ubuntu doesn't have the same release system as Debian with Sid always being Unstable, they try to release every six months like clockwork12:57
ElchbulleYes. In the installation it worked12:57
C-O-L-THelp me again! I am new in Linux and I can not make it. How to see WinXP partition under KUBUNTU12:57
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ajusmy fat16 usb disk can't be read in breezy... help please12:57
Hobbsee!tell C-O-L-T about mount12:57
SeveasC-O-L-T, system -> administration -> disks12:57
arnduckywiki.ubuntu.com12:57
`6ogarnducky: tell the bot like this:12:57
C-O-L-Tyes12:57
`6oghi Hobbsee12:57
mindlaceany (easy) way to replace the existing kernel on the install iso with a more recent one?12:57
`6ogubotu: NT is  (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MicroSoft also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.12:57
ubotuokay, `6og12:57
`6og!NT12:57
ubotuit has been said that nt is (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MicroSoft also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.12:57
Seveasmindlace, no, and it would be baf12:57
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Elchbulle`6og in the installation the keyboard works well12:58
Black_Hatarnducky so its really pointless then to even try and find an unstable source list for apt to use in ubuntu?12:58
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Hobbseehi `6og12:58
arnduckyhmmm, I hope the old entries are cached12:58
Hobbsee!tell Black_Hat about repos12:58
mindlacebaf, Seveas?12:58
intelikeyyes Black_Hat that's what i said way ^ up there.12:58
Seveasmindlace, ?12:58
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`6ogbtw Hobbsee, it's kamping_kaiser ;)12:58
Seveasbad12:58
Seveasnot baf :)12:58
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arnduckyI wouldn't want to replace anything usefull with something merely trivial -- nor a well-written entry with bac grammar.12:58
`6oghi Seveas :)12:58
Hobbseeah, i was wondering who it was!  why arent you using your regular nick?12:59
mindlaceThe thing is, my RAID isn't detected in 2.6.1212:59
mindlacebut it is in 2.6.13+12:59
`6ogHobbsee: i join another channel using this nic, and instead of doing my usual join, i just expanded with this one12:59
Black_Hatahhh ok. and that link was exactly what i needed12:59
Black_Hatthanks!12:59
Hobbseeah ok12:59
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`6og:)12:59
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mindlaceso I was hoping to change the install disk to have a better version of the kernel...12:59
arnduckyI think this was the most likely part of the entry To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPar12:59
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ElchbulleAnyone know why USB Keyboards arent supported by Ubuntu?01:00
mindlacethey are, elchbulle.01:00
MrFartsElchbulle, aren't they ?01:00
`6ogElchbulle: i have had no problems01:00
ElchbulleNO!01:00
intelikeyElchbulle they aren't ????01:00
MrFartsElchbulle, i'm pretty sure they are :)01:00
arnduckyAlso we should mention ntfsprog pkgy (provides ntfstools SA ntfsmount ntfsfix ntfsresize which are integrated in parted now)01:00
ElchbulleIts a normal cherryusbkeyboard with NO extras01:00
mindlaceThe wireless microsoft usb keyboard worked just find01:00
mindlacefine01:00
ElchbulleMrFarts you are wrong01:00
MrFartsElchbulle, i don't think so :)01:01
SeveasElchbulle, usb keyboards are supported01:01
Seveasor else these words could not have been typed01:01
MadpilotElchbulle: a friend even has a wireless kb & mouse that work fine01:01
ElchbulleWhy does it STOP working after I type the first letter?01:01
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MrFartsElchbulle, maybe you have something weird going on in the BIOS01:01
ElchbulleMouse still works01:01
`6ogElchbulle: i have had 2 (usb) apple keyboards and my ps2 keyboard plugged into my pc at one time01:01
`6ogall working fine01:01
arnduckySpeaking of keyboards, ahs anyone played around with getting fancy keys to work (like the home, calculator, browsing and multimedia functions)?01:02
Elchbulle6og doenst help me here01:02
MrFartsarnducky, i haven't played around with the, but they all work01:02
mindlaceit looks like I'll have to take (yet another) drive, install the OS to it, then install a newer kernel on it, then move everything to the raid array01:02
`6ogfraid not Elchbulle01:02
`6ogarnducky: on my multimedia keyboard some work01:02
`6ogsome don't (ms multimedia kbd)01:02
mindlacewhich I was kind of hoping to avoid.01:02
ElchbulleSo what to do?01:02
SeveasElchbulle, try another USB port, if possible with no other usb appliances plugged in - just to test01:02
MrFartsmindlace, raid array ?01:03
ElchbulleSeveas I will try01:03
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Elchbullebbl01:03
MrFartsmindlace, you have an array of RAIDS ? :)01:03
arnduckyMrFarts, how do I do it?  (If nothing pre-exists) Is there an XKPB ruleset builder GTK2+ mod or anything yet?01:03
mindlacethbbt.01:03
MrFartsarnducky, i have no idea; i don't use those keys anyway01:03
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intelikey<--- usb ignorant,  are usb kbds hotplugable ?01:04
`6ogintelikey: yes01:04
intelikeyk01:04
`6ogarnducky: you can set keys with the 'setkey code keybinding' IIRC01:04
`6ogor similar01:04
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C-O-L-THelp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks01:05
C-O-L-TGuide me please01:05
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arnduckysetkey_code() <-- a TCL or Perl (or whatever) FN()?01:05
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arnduckyBBIAB -- will look for NICKNAME prefaced posts upon return01:06
C-O-L-Telp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks01:06
MrFartsC-O-L-T, you need to mount the disk01:06
C-O-L-Tyes01:06
SeveasC-O-L-T, system -> administration -> disks01:06
C-O-L-Tbut how?01:06
`6ogarnducky: [4568923.194000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.01:06
`6og^ from my dmesg01:06
Seveasyou can mount them there01:06
C-O-L-Tbut hoq01:06
C-O-L-Tw01:06
C-O-L-TI have never done something like that01:06
C-O-L-TI use windows for 10 years01:06
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Elchbulleahh okay ubuntu cant handle two usb devices. Lucky I have still a ps/2 mouse here01:07
Myrtti:-o01:07
C-O-L-Telp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks01:07
SeveasElchbulle, Ubuntu can perfectly fine handle that01:07
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intelikeyElchbulle yeah it can01:07
Seveasunless one of the devices is vroken01:07
C-O-L-THelp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks01:07
SeveasC-O-L-T, do you even listen?01:07
ElchbulleSeveas not really, Seveas with suse it runs perfectly01:07
`6ogC-O-L-T: don't spam01:07
C-O-L-TYes i Listen01:07
MyrttiAnd repeating the question when we perfectly heard it the first time sure does help01:07
C-O-L-TI am in administration disks01:08
C-O-L-Twhat to do then?01:08
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SeveasElchbulle, try dmesg after it errors out and see what that gives01:08
MadpilotElchbulle: I've got three USB devices running right now, all just fine, and I've had up to five at one point...01:08
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Elchbullemom01:08
pistolerohey..01:08
ompaulC-O-L-T, wait until someone tells you - they are busy with others01:08
ompaul!tell C-O-L-T about ntfs01:08
C-O-L-Tbut how much01:08
SeveasElchbulle, if you put the dmesg output on the pastebin we can all have a look :)01:08
SeveasC-O-L-T, go to 'partitions', select your partition and set the 'access path'01:08
DelPedeI can't get NIS working in Ubuntu 5.10. Didn't have any problems in 5.04. The client will not bind to the ypserver. Anyone got any clues?01:09
`6ogbbl. hacking a wikipage01:09
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cliebow__anyone have thoughts on segmentation fault with kppp in breezy??i have lucent drivers built and modem woich is not exactly friendly for this windows centric user switching overrks in wvdial..wh01:11
cliebow__sorry laptop has gone yoda again01:11
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cliebow__anyone have thoughts on segmentation fault with kppp in breezy??i have lucent drivers built and modem works in wvdial..network-admin seems not to initiate dialup sequence..kpp segfaults01:13
ookamiwhy would i have email if i have not even set up an email account yet? according to GKrellM i have 8/8 mail...01:13
ookamibut i cant see them...01:14
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pistolerohow do i install warcraft III in ubuntu ?01:14
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ElchbulleOkay Ubuntu isnt working. I get back to SuSE or maybe I try the originall debian for a working system.01:15
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ElchbulleI will maybe try ubuntu when it isnt still alpha01:15
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b_e_n_zElchbulle, good bye dummy01:16
Elchbulleb_e_n_z muahaha01:16
bob_4_a_dayb_e_n_z be nice...01:16
WebLOCHHey guys, can anyone assist me in installing automake-1.7 and/or give reference materials ?01:16
pistolerohow do i install warcraft3?01:16
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HobbseeWebLOCH: what problems are you having with it?  sudo apt-get install automake1.701:17
WebLOCHpistolero, thats covered in the User Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraftHowto01:17
bob_4_a_dayWebLOCH 'sudo apt-get install build-essentual '01:17
Hobbseethat too01:17
Seveasb_e_n_z: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct01:18
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WebLOCHHobbsee, bob_4_a_day : sorry guys my bad, made a spelling mistake before, everythings loading now01:19
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HobbseeWebLOCH: :)01:20
C-O-L-TI have problem with autoconfiguring partitions01:20
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MrFartsC-O-L-T, you have a problem with a lot of things01:21
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C-O-L-Tprobably01:21
C-O-L-TI will delete ubuntu01:21
WebLOCHDoes anyone know if Luminocity will be part of GNOME any time soon?01:21
shortyhah, why? :P01:21
MrFartsC-O-L-T, sounds like a plan01:21
C-O-L-TiT IS TOO HARD FOR ME01:21
shortybwahahah01:21
shortyyou're not trying01:21
shortycomputers aren't for everyone. :P01:22
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bob_4_a_dayMrFarts ?01:22
C-O-L-TAnyway thanks01:22
Shorty_but seriously though01:22
Shorty_what problems are you having?01:22
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MrFartsShorty_, general retardation01:22
C-O-L-TI can not configure my windows partitions01:22
bob_4_a_dayMrFarts who put a bur under your saddel ?01:23
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Shorty_configure them how01:23
Yannick_Rhello01:23
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Yannick_RI have some troubles ever since I compiled my 2.6.14.2 kernel01:24
MrFartsbob_4_a_day, how long have you been in the channel /01:24
MrFartsbob_4_a_day, he's been spamming for the last 20 minutes or so01:24
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Yannick_Rmy usbkeys and cdrom are not longer automounting, and if I start under the ubuntu kernel it works01:25
Dark_Sithhello peeps01:25
Yannick_RI was wondering, maybe I forgot a patch or a module, could you guys help me ?01:25
Kamping_KaiserYannick_R: check you compiled in usb support01:25
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Yannick_RI can mount my key with command line, mount /dev/sda1 /media/key01:26
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WebLOCHHobbsee, this script is telling me i need to install zlib, but doesnt specify which libraries, apt-cache search returns a whole bunch, don't suppose you have any suggestions?01:28
HobbseeWebLOCH: what are you compiling?01:28
WebLOCHHobbsee, luminocity01:29
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dviusim back. wasup01:29
bob_4_a_daysay01:29
dviushey aftertaf...01:30
bob_4_a_dayhaven't see aftertaf all morning....01:30
dviusah well01:30
dviusta01:30
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borupWebLOCH: btw luminocity is not likely to ever be part of gnome - thats the point of it01:30
HobbseeWebLOCH: not much of an expert on this, but try zlib1g01:30
blizzkidLo all. Anyone knows about a way to get incoming call alerts from a mobile phone in gnome?01:31
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dviusu running asterisk?01:31
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dviusblizzkid: u runnin asterisk01:31
dvius?01:31
blizzkiddvius: can you run asterisk on ubuntu?01:31
blizzkidI thaught it was a seperate distro?01:32
WebLOCHborup, its got a few pages on the gnome project site, I assumed it would eventually make it into gnome01:32
dviusmmm, probably, but wouldnt recommend using it on your everyday pc. best to setup on standalone apparantly,01:32
dviusnah asterisk isnt a seperate distro, you install ontop of another... asterisk@home is whole distro though01:33
bob_4_a_day!info asterisk01:33
dviusbut strom reckons it sux01:33
ubotuasterisk: (open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX)), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.9.dfsg-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1061 kB, Installed size: 2992 kB01:33
WebLOCHHobbsee, already installed it seems to think01:33
blizzkiddvius, I tried kmobiletools, but once connected, after 15 seconds the connection is lost. gnome-phone-manager doesn't connect at all, and btcid sits there and doesn't do a thing01:33
borupWebLOCH: bits of it will01:33
bimberidvius: no, it's a software package, available in a universe repository near you01:33
HobbseeWebLOCH: zlib1g-dev01:34
bimberidvius: oops, missed your last post :)01:34
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blizzkidand does asterisk offer call alerts for bluetooth phones?01:34
WebLOCHHobbsee, cheers, that did the trick01:35
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HobbseeWebLOCH: :D01:35
borupWebLOCH: but luminocity is a toy, purely proof of concept (check the readme its funny)01:35
HobbseeWebLOCH: i did an apt-cache search for zlib dev and that was one of the things that came up01:35
WebLOCHHobbsee, at least i assume it did, screaming terminal output is a dubious way of showing "success"01:35
Hobbseehehe01:35
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nydusthey. I am running the live cd on a laptop, and i need to mount the HD. But when i mount it to /mnt i dont have permissions to read.. why=01:36
WebLOCHHobbsee, yeah I saw it earlier but made assumptions about the 'lg' on the end, which is where i went wrong01:36
Hobbsee*nods*01:36
nydustwhat is the root password on the live cd?01:36
arkanesWebLOCH: use jhbuild to compile Luminocity and it's dependencies, it knows what to do01:36
blizzkidbimberi, does asterisk offer call alerts for bluetooth phones?01:37
WebLOCHarkanes, I did, it keeps prompting me with problems, that zlib was one of them01:37
bob_4_a_daynydust mount it -o umask=0       and root passwd.... use user passwd.01:37
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WebLOCHarkanes, now i have a new one refering to a bunch of unment dependancies :P01:37
nydusthow do i enable the root account?01:37
dviuswell gotta go...gotta tru and get this bloody nvidia to work... good luck blizzkid01:37
WebLOCHarkanes, which dont appear to be available in apt01:37
dvius*try01:37
bimberiblizzkid: don't know sorry01:37
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blizzkidty dvius01:37
bob_4_a_daynydust you would have to set a root passwd.    'sudo passwd '01:38
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dviusnp blizzkid01:38
arkanesWebLOCH: well, zlib is zlib-dev, and it's quite enormously common01:38
arkanesso perhaps jhbuild assumes that you already have it01:38
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WebLOCHarkanes, that wasnt the zlib library it was after, i did have it01:39
bob_4_a_daysystem wont load without zlib01:39
arnducky0x e02a = %____ (decimal hex)01:40
arkanesWebLOCH: it almost certainly was that zlib library, it just didn't know how to find it01:40
arnduckyubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  NTFS support und01:40
arnduckyer Linux is provided by the Debian package, which is maintained by Linux-NTFS Project found at ntfsprog http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (formerly hosted at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  [Freenode #Ubuntu Ubotu wiki revised by arnducky [Wed 23-NOV-2005 0540h MST]  (GMT-7h)]  ***Comments or hat/e-mail may be addressed to <4 |) |\/| 1 |\| @arnducky.net>***01:40
ubotu...but ntfs is already something else...01:40
bob_4_a_dayif you don't beleive it check what depends on it.01:40
arnduckyhmmmm...01:40
Kamping_Kaiserubotu: forget ntfs01:41
ubotui forgot ntfs, Kamping_Kaiser01:41
WebLOCHarkanes, well I didnt tell it how to, so unless the system worked it out, by itself, you are wrong01:41
Kamping_Kaiserubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.01:41
ubotuokay, Kamping_Kaiser01:41
arnducky=oD01:41
WebLOCHarkanes, however after installing zliblg it worked... :P01:41
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Kamping_Kaiser:)01:41
arnduckyYou actually liked it?!?01:41
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arnducky!copyleft01:42
ubotuarnducky: What?01:42
arnduckythere's one!01:42
arnduckyhehehehe01:42
Kamping_Kaiseryeh.. hpfs is esentialy irrelevent, but still01:42
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arnduckyKamping_Kaiser, that part is for the history and business types01:43
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: sure, i didnt know that, but for the average user (who needs that help) it's basicly irrelevent to them01:43
Kamping_Kaiserinfact, it is totaly irrelevent :)01:43
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Kamping_Kaiseryou can make an hpfs, but don't clog the bot to hard :)01:44
arnduckyProbably, the ony usefull new info is the part that got gut off about NTFSTOOLS (nfsprog; libntfs;...etc.)01:44
wickedpuppy!zfs01:44
ubotuwickedpuppy: I don't know01:44
wickedpuppyah someone gotta add zeta ...01:44
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: add one for ntfstools iff you want01:45
Kamping_Kaiseror i can readd ntfs01:45
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arnduckyIs ubotu content protectedfrom MS-style public domain raiding?01:45
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arnducky!copyright01:45
ubotuarnducky: I don't know, could you explain it?01:45
ashwanihi aimaz01:45
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arnducky!gpl01:46
ubotuWish i knew, arnducky01:46
ashwanialeksi hi01:46
arnducky!fsf01:46
ubotuarnducky: I haven't a clue01:46
Kamping_Kaiserin what way?01:46
arnducky!osi01:46
ubotuarnducky: Wish i knew01:46
Kamping_Kaiserdomain raiding?01:46
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bob_4_a_day!gnu01:46
ubotuI haven't a clue, bob_4_a_day01:46
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: a short and sweet bit to add to ntfs entry regarding ntfstools pls01:46
ashwaniDO ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE CUPS SO THAT I COULD LOG WHO SENT WHAT PRINT JOBS AND HOW MANY PAGES01:46
bob_4_a_daylink to the gnu web page ?01:46
Kamping_Kaiserdon't shout01:47
bob_4_a_daygnu.org ?01:47
ashwaniCUPS KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED01:47
Kamping_Kaiserdon't shout01:47
arnduckyAHhh, right and how about a chain reference from the end of the ntfs  entry --> ntfstools01:47
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Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: so far: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.01:48
Kamping_Kaiseryou have about 1.5 lines for ntfs tools01:48
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snowowlI think the Breezy kernel update screwed my LimeWire01:48
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salmenarahi !!01:48
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salmenaraHow can I listen to mp3 with totem?01:49
Kamping_Kaiserhi01:49
snowowlhello01:49
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bob_4_a_day!gnu01:49
ubotugnu is, like, totally, Like go read http://gnu.org and learn about free software.01:49
arnduckyWhat's the char limit -- same as this server MAXLEN?01:49
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Kamping_Kaisersalmenara: can i recomend an mp3 player for playing mp3s? ;)01:49
arnduckyI have my text ed open with draft - it can cound lines or chars.01:49
salmenaraxmms?01:49
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: not sure exactly it's *about* 5 or 6 lines01:49
arnducky-d/+t01:49
Kamping_Kaiser!ubotu01:49
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:49
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: check the limit there01:50
arnduckyTYVM01:50
snowowlsal: you can find the information by typing "unofficial Ubuntu Guide" into your favorite search engine01:50
arnduckyBBIAB01:50
Kamping_Kaiserno01:50
Kamping_Kaisernp01:50
Kamping_Kaisersorry, no no :$01:50
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Kamping_Kaisersalmenara: if your using Breezy look in the help, in the starter guide01:50
Kamping_Kaiserit's in tere01:50
snowowlfor xmms just apt-get install ffmpeg01:50
Kamping_Kaiser*there01:50
Kamping_Kaiserand you don't have to break your system with ubuntuguide01:50
salmenaraKamping_Kaiser: how can I edit the *.mp3 file association from totem to xmms ?01:51
Kamping_Kaisersalmenara: if you install xmms it should do it by itself01:51
nxv_how do i install vim colorschemes?01:51
salmenaraKamping_Kaiser: Where is the starter guide?01:51
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arnduckyahhh, mime types -- that could utilize it's own bot with a dedicated DB backend01:51
Kamping_Kaisersalmenara: system -> help -> ubuntu 5.10 starter guide01:51
arnducky;-)01:51
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Kamping_Kaiserlol01:52
Kamping_Kaiserno crap arnducky ;)01:52
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_jasonnxv_, try #vim01:52
nxv__jason: no packages there in ubuntu ?01:53
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arnduckyhmmm... I want to put something in about fuse (since libntfs may be essentially useless w/o it for most luser(sic)).01:53
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Kamping_Kaiserfuse?01:54
arnduckyKamping_Kaiser, is it possible to get a dump of the bot01:54
_jasonnxv_, i don't know01:54
arnducky'Files Under User Space'?01:54
Kamping_Kaiserhm.01:54
Kamping_Kaiser!tell arnducky about bot01:54
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Kamping_Kaiser;)01:54
Kamping_Kaiserthere should be a list of what the bot knows on that page that got linked to01:54
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arnduckykute but kryptik, Kamping_Kaiser01:55
Kamping_Kaiserremember you can say 'or ask me about !ntfs tools'01:55
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:55
_jasonnxv_, I think you just cp the color scheme somewhere in ~/.vim but you are better off asking in #vim01:55
arnduckyAre you a KDE/Kubuntu maven?01:55
Kamping_Kaiser~/.vimrc01:55
Kamping_Kaiserme? nah01:55
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arnduckyKamping_Kaiser is just kickier than Camping_Czar?01:56
nxv_and where do i get it? i have found a nice page with scheme demo but no download there: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~maverick/VimColorSchemeTest/index-c.html01:56
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: have you seen counter stick? the flash animation?01:56
arnduckyno (not yet...)01:56
Kamping_Kaiserit's about a group of CS playing stick figures01:57
Kamping_Kaiserones called carl and he camps...01:57
arnduckyI've seen stick figur pR0n...01:57
Kamping_KaiserI'm called Karl and i  play(ed) CS...01:57
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:57
bob_4_a_dayhmmmm crap!    mount: must be superuser to use mount    and ,users, is in the fstab.....  ?01:57
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat was the command you ran?01:57
arnducky(I Kuite liKed it aKtually)01:57
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crimsunbob_4_a_day: beware that "users" is different semantically from "user"01:58
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bob_4_a_daycrimsun yeah i know.01:58
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arnduckyKamping_Kaiser, are you a ubotu master?01:58
crimsunbob_4_a_day: in any case, pmount is more in line with what you want.01:58
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: no, i just know a few of the commands01:58
arnduckyhost-owner/admin?01:58
bob_4_a_dayi don't think it is avalable here.01:59
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: no, the bots open01:59
ninoui do not understand the network/interfaces file01:59
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: http://www.stickpage.com/counterstickseries.shtml01:59
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Kamping_Kaiserninou: what trips you up?01:59
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arnduckyBut it *listened* to  you when you used 'forget' -- that seems sKarey.01:59
Kamping_Kaiser(me throws away any concept of work tonight)01:59
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Kamping_Kaiserlol01:59
Kamping_Kaiser*musters dark forces*02:00
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bob_4_a_daycrimsun what package provides pmount ?02:00
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bimberiKamping_Kaiser: @2330? lol02:00
Kamping_Kaiserlol. yeh.02:00
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Kamping_Kaiseri was going to do some work on the wiki. (amoung other things)02:01
Kamping_Kaiserso much for that02:01
crimsunbob_4_a_day: 'pmount'02:01
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bimberiKamping_Kaiser: :)02:01
bob_4_a_dayoh wait, removing the setuid bit on /bin/mount has caused this....  nm02:01
amneziaanybody has a slow usb mouse when copying from CD/DVD?02:01
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Kamping_Kaiserbimberi: you in sa or nt?02:01
bimberiKamping_Kaiser: act02:02
amneziaI am getting this on 2 totally different machines02:02
Kamping_Kaiseramnezia: i have a slow mouse, i think it's because of load02:02
bob_4_a_daythanks crimsun i was right it's not avalable to me.02:02
Kamping_Kaiserbimberi: huh? your not on central time :S02:02
crimsun!info pmount02:02
ubotupmount: (mount removable devices as normal user), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 608 kB02:02
crimsunit's in main02:02
arnduckyubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  For more details about NTFS support under Linux, see also: ntfstools. Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.02:02
ubotu...but ntfs is already something else...02:02
amneziaKamping_Kaiser:  no way. I never have slow mouse when booting my own custom kernel, not Ubuntu's02:02
bimberiKamping_Kaiser: nope, aedt here.  Greetings from tomorrow :P02:02
bob_4_a_daybut not in rpms for my distro.02:02
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bob_4_a_day:)02:03
Kamping_Kaiserbimberi: lol :P02:03
LinuxN00biehello, Canon MP 110 3 in 1 or HP 1410 3 in 1 which one is better for ubuntu?02:03
crimsunbob_4_a_day: the source is available in the repositories02:03
Kamping_Kaiserbimberi: i thought you must be central because of this line -> (23:30:19) bimberi: Kamping_Kaiser: @2330? lol02:03
Kamping_Kaiserexact same time ;)02:03
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arnduckyKamping_Kaiser, I was referring to M$ stealing public domain software (i.e. 'MS' DOS)02:03
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bob_4_a_dayyes i could build it.    but i don't like doing that.    specially when there is other ways of getting to the same place.02:04
bimberiKamping_Kaiser: ah, no i knew because of ...adl4.internode...02:04
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: ah ok. i don't remember DOS being public domain02:04
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Kamping_Kaiserbimberi: ah, ok. ;) i didnt think of that02:04
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bimberiKamping_Kaiser: :)02:05
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:05
Kamping_Kaiseryou should jump on your roo some time and hop over for a barbie :P02:05
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bob_4_a_dayyep chmod +s /bin/mount now users can mount cdroms static mounting....  none of that automatic junk....02:07
bob_4_a_day:)02:07
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arnduckyThe original authors never bothered to assert copyright when they released the precursor of MS-DOS and PC-DOS (which IS open Sourced by IBM) AFAIK which made it public domain.  Unfortunatly it's still 'open season' on 'informal' public domain even afer the advent of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Richard M. Stallman's aadvocacy.  This is why we bother to 'copyleft' things even when we don't intend to do 'commercial open sour02:08
arnduckyce'.02:08
Kamping_Kaiserhm. ok.02:08
arnduckyAnother realated historical example is the .zip file format and the Pkware copyright infringement case.02:08
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bimberiKamping_Kaiser: roo = qantas :)02:09
bimberi?02:09
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arnduckyKamping_Kaiser, I've always wondered whether that is an emoticon or _whut_...02:09
Kamping_Kaiserbimberi: i was thinking the hoppers, but you know ;)02:09
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bob_4_a_dayhmmm when using 'eject -x# ' it must stay set even when disks are ejected.....   i didn't know that.02:09
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: yeh, emoticon02:09
bimberilol02:09
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Kamping_Kaiserimangine japanese emoticons... mm...02:10
arnduckyWhutzitmean, wutzitmean?02:10
mathieudzhow can i find which package 'dos2unix' is in?02:10
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: one eye realy open, one half open02:10
arnduckyoh that anismiley gak02:10
Kamping_Kaiseras in 'wtf'02:10
bob_4_a_daydos2unix is in dos2unix02:10
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arnduckyLike the .us Cartoon strip cat, Bill [Bloom County] ?02:11
mathieudzbob_4_a_day: hmm. ic. my archive listings are gone. needed an update first02:11
bob_4_a_daywell not in ubuntu it seems...02:11
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bob_4_a_daymathieudz it is install by default though.02:11
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michukhello02:12
bob_4_a_dayyou can do a apt-cache search dos2unix mathieudz to find it.02:12
greedybhey guys, I'm using Ubuntu on a laptop and Ive installed the Nvidia Drivers.. I was wondering how I can get my S-Video out to work.  I really depend on it, the VGA out works just as normal but when I hit fn+f8 nothing switches.  Any ideas?02:12
mathieudz"Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "dos2unix"02:12
michuki have a question. i hqve to windows systems on my hard drive now, win 2000 on c: (primary) and win XP on d (extended partition)02:12
mathieudzargh02:12
michuki want to keep win XP and install ubuntu on my primary partition02:13
michukis it safe?02:13
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JDahlmichuk, quite safe, I think02:13
Kamping_Kaisermichuk: should be ok02:13
bob_4_a_daymichuk sure02:13
aeon17xmichuk: you have to shrink the space available for winXP, but that's about it.02:13
michukok i'll blame you if something gets screwed up :)02:13
bob_4_a_dayaeon17x ?02:14
mathieudzbob_4_a_day: still not found..02:14
JDahlmichuk, the partition shrinker in the Ubuntu installer worked perfectly fine for me02:14
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michukso there's no problem with booting windows from grub while windows is on the extended partition?02:14
aeon17xbob_4_a_day: He said it was installed on his primary partition.02:14
Kamping_Kaiseraeon17x: depends how much space 2k had02:14
arnduckyYikes, the Sw0edish wikings are landing on the Ubuntu beach -- head for the hills!  (Women children and dux 1st!)02:14
bob_4_a_dayJDahl ?02:14
JDahlbob_4_a_day, ?02:14
arnduckyNo1Viking02:14
michuki just want to replace win2000 with ubuntu, no changes in partitions02:14
Kamping_Kaisermichuk: how big is your 2k parititon?02:15
JDahlmichuk, that's even easier then02:15
No1Vikingarnducky, yes?02:15
arnduckyAhhh, michuk I'm composing ntfs wiki as we chat02:15
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greedybanyone have any ideas about my s-video problem?02:15
bob_4_a_dayyeah..... i dont know why these guys are trying to get you to break things michuk  ?????02:15
michukKamping_Kaiser: it's 28 GB02:15
Kamping_Kaisergreedyb: all i can sugest is look in the wiki for nvidia and svidoe, i remember something about it02:15
arnduckyYour nickname!  (more polite than 'your momma', hopefully)02:16
Kamping_Kaiserthen no resize needed02:16
arnduckygreedyb, v4l02:16
arnduckyand gatos and dri02:16
arnduckygoogle em02:16
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EnquestIs there here someone who know how to capture a stream?02:16
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arnduckyEnquest, as I told greedyb02:16
Kamping_KaiserEnquest: mencoder or steamsomething02:16
bob_4_a_daymichuk ignore all the 'shrink' 'change' and 'break' your partitions advise and install it the way you planed.02:16
arnduckymichuk, man ntfsresize02:17
EnquestI use the following command mplayer -noframedrop -dumpfile dollar.rm -dumpstream http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlicht/bb.20051120.rm?start=0:0:002:17
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arnduckyman fuserd02:17
Enquestbut it won't work02:17
bob_4_a_daymichuk it will work just fine.02:17
arnducky(FUSE)02:17
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michukbob_4_a_day: you are sure it wont make windows unbootable, right?02:17
arnduckyman parted | gparted | qtparted02:17
arnduckymichuk, backup your mbr and doze pt'n then you anc much around as much  as you want02:18
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michukhow to backup mbr from withing windows?02:18
arnduckymichuk, ewww02:18
michuki have windows boot manager now02:18
michukwith choice of win2000 and winxp02:19
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arnduckythat's nasty unless you have commercial software (or unless you mount the drive in another machine)02:19
michukand hope it will be replaced with grub with choice of ubuntu and winxp after all02:19
animali just installed nVidiaDrivers and i was wodering if there is some kind  of software i can make configs in02:19
bob_4_a_daygrub may not find your windows xp boot loader but these guys can help you tell grub how to find it without effert....02:19
Kamping_Kaiseranimal: nvidia-settings IIRC02:19
mathieudzbob_4_a_day: actually it's in 'sysutils' not in 'dos2unix'02:19
animalKamping_Kaiser, what?02:20
Kamping_Kaisermichuk: the question is wether xp has it's bootloader on the 2k partition - i think the answer is yes02:20
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bob_4_a_daymathieudz i told you <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: hmm. ic. my archive listings are gone. needed an update first02:20
bob_4_a_day<bob_4_a_day> well not in ubuntu it seems...02:20
michukyes, on the 2k partition02:20
Kamping_Kaisernow if you nuke the 2k partition, you lose the boot loader02:20
michuk2k was first02:20
Kamping_Kaisernot just 'i need to point back to it' but 'it's realy gone'02:20
arnduckySymantec's Ghost asn Partition Magic (bought out from PowerQuest) lines now support Ext3 as well as all the WinGakFSes, but gparted is *supposed* to do all the same stuff now02:21
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Kamping_Kaisermichuk: i *think* what you can do, is remove 2k, then boot with the xp cd, and 'mbr recover'02:21
Kamping_Kaiserthen restore grub02:21
bob_4_a_daymathieudz the package is dos2unix that i install here but not in ubuntu, it's packaged differently.02:21
greedybwhats the best way to restartx02:21
greedyb?02:21
Kamping_Kaisergreedyb: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:22
greedybwow02:22
arnduckyKamping_Kaiser, what's a good trigger for a WIn --> Linux multiboot (migration) strategy?   I could write a howto on that too (though not a concise one).02:22
greedybthats long02:22
greedyblol02:22
Kamping_Kaiserlol greedyb02:22
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: an it person who has to use linux for a uni degree02:22
Kamping_Kaisergeneraly they like a 'normal user' and a 'it pro'02:23
Kamping_Kaisershow it's for everyone ;)02:23
bob_4_a_dayi'd say '<greedyb> whats the best way to restartx'  ctrl+alt+backspace02:23
michukKamping_Kaiser: ok, so i guess it's more risky than i thought02:23
arnduckymichuk, the boot code must always fit within the first 64K (max)02:23
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: normal user wants to escape from viri/worms, so says, try ubuntu02:23
Kamping_Kaisermichuk: yeh.02:24
michukoh02:24
arnduckyAll M$ products *require* their boot loader on the  first device on the first controller (aside from boot emulation)02:24
Kamping_Kaiserbob_4_a_day: true. could have said that02:24
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Kamping_Kaiserand the ms boot loader may only be used for ms os's02:25
bidbeiya des frenchies ici02:25
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Gkanehi02:25
Kamping_Kaiserhi'02:25
arnduckyAlthough second, and subsquent installs of M$ will happilly boot from even logical partitions outside of the 1023 cylinder limit02:25
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michukok, i'll do it another way around then02:26
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: does booting grub onto the second partition count as 'emulation',. i think it does02:26
arnduckyThey all MUST write to the bootsector where the first M$ product02:26
arnduckynononon02:26
bob_4_a_dayarnducky and other devices too02:26
imc1Any way to get software 256-bit key AES encryption on Ubuntu ?02:26
michuki'll shrink the last partiion (with winxp) and install linux on what is left02:26
Kamping_Kaisermichuk: you can resize your 2k partition down to 5m02:26
Kamping_Kaiserthen leave the boot code there ;)02:26
arnduckyI'm jsut giving yout he background -- dont' give up -- that;'s where LILO and GRUB come in02:26
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arnduckyGRUB and LILO 'lie' to M$ boot functions02:27
bob_4_a_daymichuk ?02:27
michukbut wait, does Windows boot loader install on MBR or on partition's firsrt sector?02:27
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GkaneI reinstalled windowhi02:27
Gkanehi*02:27
arnduckythis is not the same as emulation (I was referring to the BIOS)02:27
arnduckymichuk, it does02:27
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Kamping_Kaiserlool. what does it arnducky?02:27
arnduckyThe first sector orf IDE-0 pt'n 1 normally02:27
bob_4_a_dayjust rm hda1  make new linux part and badabing install the thing.02:28
rysiusiema siema jest ktos z polski ??02:28
arnduckyIt's really nasty to try anything else02:28
Gkanehow can i reinstall grub?02:28
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Kamping_Kaiserrysiu: English only in here02:28
Kamping_KaiserGkane: using the install cd02:28
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rysiuoki02:28
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emurzhello is it possible to let realplayer work with alsa?02:28
arnduckyWhat GRUB and LILO do are write around the MS code that has to live there02:28
Gkaneim now with a live-cd online but i dont know how to reinstall grub02:28
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Kamping_KaiserGkane: get the install cd -> on prompt type 'rescue' -> something02:29
Kamping_Kaiser!restoregrub02:29
ubotuKamping_Kaiser: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:29
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Kamping_Kaiser!grub02:29
ubotu[grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:29
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Kamping_Kaiserhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <- that link02:29
arnduckyGkane, # apt-get remove --purge grub && apt-get install grub02:29
devilz_hi can someone help me with ntfs partitions02:29
devilz_i have Hda1 in my Desktop02:29
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devilz_and when i press it02:29
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devilz_i get permisson denied02:29
devilz_i'm not owner02:30
arnduckyHeh, wouldja lookit this, Kamping_Kaiser (I should hurry up and add that bot wiki)02:30
Kamping_Kaiserusermask02:30
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Kamping_Kaiserdevilz_: edit your fstab and add 'usermask=0777' to the options IIRC02:30
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Kamping_Kaiserit's tomorrow!02:30
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arnduckyemurz, re: realplayer: yes02:31
arnducky!alsa02:31
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ubotualsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206302:31
blizzkidis there a way to quickly get an overview of all installed aps that are installed from source?02:31
WebLOCHanyone fancy giving me some assistance with luminocity?  i get as far as  checking for XSERVER... configure: error: Package requirements (randrproto....02:31
devilz_Kamping_Kaiser, is it safe?02:31
bob_4_a_dayusermask ????   umask ?02:31
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arnduckyemurz -- it's theoretically possible to get ALSA to work with anything since it's a driver02:31
Kamping_Kaiserblizzkid: no02:31
Kamping_Kaiserbob_4_a_day: umask02:31
arnduckyarts is a sound *daemon*02:31
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Kamping_Kaiserdevilz_: yes, if you put the right things in02:32
Kamping_Kaiser!ntfs02:32
arnduckyIt can 'manage/provide' your drivers02:32
blizzkidand is there an easy way to remove these apps?02:32
Kamping_Kaiser!tell devilz_ about ntfs02:32
arnduckyOOpss brb02:32
devilz_/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0777 0       002:32
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devilz_i have this02:32
michukok so once more.... what is the safest way to install ubuntu and not lose my Windows XP boot information?02:32
arnducky!tell me about ntfs02:32
michukcuz i think i'm lost02:32
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Kamping_Kaisermichuk: i cant honestly tell you the safest way. i can only gues02:33
michukok, guess02:33
arnduckyIt's broken, I'll add it again02:33
arnduckyubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  For more details about NTFS support under Linux, see also: ntfstools. Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.02:33
ubotu...but ntfs is already something else...02:33
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arnduckyWhy is the bot not posting the 'something else' -- even in pvt msg?02:34
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: don't copyleft. it's not worth it ;)02:34
raingroveplaying with linux is bad when u are having exams02:34
Kamping_Kaiserlol raingrove02:34
raingrovewasted so much time on it02:34
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Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: what 'something else'?02:34
raingroveinstalling and reinstalling and playing with this and that02:34
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Kamping_Kaiser'wasted'? ah... no :)02:35
raingroveand somehow i dont get bored02:35
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Kamping_Kaiserraingrove: then welcome to the dark side02:35
raingroveand time passes very fast02:35
raingrovedamn02:35
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ZzeCoOlHello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)02:35
Kamping_Kaiserand i have solaris, saying ubuntu is the dark side *lol*02:35
bob_4_a_dayraingrove that's it! you are ruined.  you are a real linux user now.....02:35
raingroveoh no02:36
raingrovemy grades will suffer02:36
bob_4_a_dayyep02:36
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bob_4_a_dayyour life will too02:36
raingrovehaha02:36
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raingrovei better turn the computer off02:36
raingroveotherwise i can't concentrate02:36
ZzeCoOland your brain gonna burn02:36
raingrovesee ya folks02:36
ZzeCoOlu also gonna lose your girlfriend02:36
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Kamping_Kaiserlater mate02:36
ZzeCoOland friends02:36
ZzeCoOllol02:36
ZzeCoOl:P~02:37
raingrovecya02:37
bob_4_a_daybut you can't.....  you may force a reboot, but you can't turn it off....02:37
ZzeCoOllinux + bsd are evil02:37
Kamping_Kaiserlol ZzeCoOl you mean you had a gf to start with? ;P02:37
Kamping_Kaiserdown goes your geek cred!02:37
ZzeCoOlone more time02:37
ZzeCoOlHello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)02:37
AstxistCome to the darkside get a free cookie02:37
AstxistZzeCoOl, no idea how to do that02:38
WebLOCHanyone here successfully run luminocity ?02:38
ninouKamping_Kaiser: when booting, hotplug do no set my network interface02:38
Kamping_KaiserZzeCoOl: it can save, i just don't know how :)02:38
ZzeCoOlgrrrrr02:38
ninouKamping_Kaiser: i try to undestand the mapping tag in network/interfaces02:39
ZzeCoOlfind me the way or prepera to die02:39
bob_4_a_dayZzeCoOl man alsactrl     errr what ever it is... it can save settings.02:39
ZzeCoOlprepare*02:39
ZzeCoOl:P02:39
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Kamping_Kaiserninou: use the Gnome network tool02:39
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Kamping_Kaiserninou: is it a ethernet connection you want to work?02:39
oNe^somewherehello ... i need some help installing kvirc02:40
oNe^somewherecan some1 help me plz02:40
bob_4_a_dayZzeCoOl but i can't say if it will save the extended settings you are talking about or not...  you'll just have to check.02:40
Kamping_Kaiserthen basicly02:40
Kamping_Kaiserauto eth?02:40
Kamping_Kaiseriface eth? inet DHCP02:40
ninoui fix the problem with a 'auto eth0'02:40
oNe^somewherenot the version in the package manager either02:40
bob_4_a_dayalsactl maybe02:41
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Kamping_KaiseroNe^somewhere: try asking in #KDE, i doubt many people here will be able to help02:41
ZzeCoOlbob_4_a_day:  checked ... no solution02:41
ninoui have another problem with gnome under nfs home dir -> unable to log out02:41
ZzeCoOlbasicly the aplication is  : gnome-volume-control02:41
oNe^somewhereok ty Kamping_Kaiser02:42
arnduckyubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide (and do, to an ever intcreasing degree) NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (which depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; ntfs and ntfsresize (etc.) which may safely resize ntfs partitions.  The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted.  More information is available from the ntfstools' devel02:42
arnduckyopers, Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (also hosted at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.02:42
ubotuarnducky: okay02:42
bob_4_a_dayoNe^somewhere 'sudo apt-get install kvirc '02:42
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bob_4_a_day!info kvirc02:42
ubotukvirc: (Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:2.1.3.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1365 kB, Installed size: 4064 kB02:42
Kamping_Kaiserarnducky: bit long ;)02:42
arnduckyIt's not echoing the entry in pvt msg02:43
oNe^somewherewhat if i dont use the KDE ?02:43
bob_4_a_dayoNe^somewhere 'sudo apt-get install kvirc '02:43
bob_4_a_dayit's in universe02:43
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bob_4_a_dayahh assumes breezy .....02:43
oNe^somewherei tried that bob_4_a_day  ...but i have the 3.2.0tar.gz file02:43
Plus-V-ducky!ntfstools02:44
bob_4_a_dayand why are you not satisfied with the precompiled package oNe^somewhere ?02:44
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oNe^somewherebecause i have my own server on another network and want more (as in for OPER purposes)02:45
bob_4_a_dayk02:45
Hoxzeris there any way to go to the home dir whit same command no matter what user name you use?02:45
bob_4_a_daycd02:46
oNe^somewherei'm using x-chat atm but i am new to linux ... i usually use invision on XP pro02:46
Kamping_KaiserHoxzer: typing "cd" will always take you to the logged in users home02:46
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aftertafoNe^somewhere:  if you are new to linux, you shouldnt be messing with source files right now....02:47
Hoxzerkamping_kaiser: ok, can I use it with mv command somehow?02:47
bob_4_a_daycd  =  cd $HOME  = cd ~02:47
Plus-V-duckyubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aims to provide NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (can safely resize ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. ntfstools are developed by the Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (also hosted at http://linux02:47
Plus-V-ducky-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community02:47
ubotu...but ntfstools is already something else...02:47
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aftertafjust a bit of headache saving advice02:47
Plus-V-ducky!forget ntfstools02:47
ubotuPlus-V-ducky: i forgot ntfstools02:47
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Kamping_KaiserHoxzer: what do you want to do?02:47
Plus-V-duckyubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aims to provide NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (can safely resize ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. ntfstools are developed by the Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ [Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Co02:48
Plus-V-duckymmunity] .02:48
ubotuPlus-V-ducky: okay02:48
aftertafPlus-V-ducky:  you can update the bot in a private msg channel with it02:48
HoxzerKamping_kaiser: move file to home dir02:48
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Kamping_KaiserHoxzer:  mv filename ~02:48
Hoxzerok02:48
Kamping_Kaiser~ is /home/$username/02:48
aftertaf~/02:48
Hoxzeryeah, I know02:48
Plus-V-duckyaftertaf, I was trying but it seems to be +d in PRIV_MSG QUEERY02:48
ZzeCoOlHello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)      <------------SOLVED if anyone wanna know ask me :)02:48
bob_4_a_day$HOME02:48
Plus-V-ducky(+d/deaf)02:48
aftertafPlus-V-ducky:  are your registered with nickserv?02:48
Plus-V-duckyblootbot?02:49
bob_4_a_daymv file $HOME02:49
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Plus-V-duckyOh, no.  I never bother with that unless it's forced.02:49
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: you don't have to pm02:49
aftertafyeah but it causes clutter in the chan...02:49
Kamping_Kaiserbut if it's got an entry you need to say 'ubotu forget something' first02:49
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: sure02:49
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blizzkidDoes anyone have an idea how to "listen" for an icoming call on a bluetooth phone?02:50
blizzkidI'd like an alert on my mobile02:50
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blizzkids/mobile/desktop02:50
Kamping_Kaisereek02:50
aftertafhehe02:50
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Plus-V-duckyOn an ipaq -- that's psyck!02:51
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Kamping_Kaiserlol02:51
Plus-V-duckyerrr, 'Symbian' BTW02:52
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Kamping_Kaiseron it's own hdd02:52
blizzkidPlus-V-ducky, why not take Amiga's Workbench? :p02:52
bob_4_a_dayprobably has micro-reboot on there too02:52
Plus-V-duckyyeah, so Linux does try mkswap on /dev/[solar_system_partn] /02:53
Plus-V-ducky'doesn't' LOL02:53
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Plus-V-duckyblizzkid, Watchoo talkin bout', Willis?02:53
Plus-V-ducky!ntfstools02:54
blizzkidPlus-V-ducky, installing amiga's workbench on the ipaq ;-)02:54
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Plus-V-duckyDon't know it -- never played with Amigas ( I sorta skipped a big gap between Apple2+/C64 and i286)02:55
Kamping_Kaiserbhahahaha02:55
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Dr_WillisNeed one?02:55
Dr_Willis:P02:56
blizzkidI had the 500 and the 120002:56
Kamping_Kaiseri sorta skipped the gap between - and 2001 ;P (ish)02:56
blizzkidstarted with a VIC20 :)02:56
Dr_Willisblizzkid,  got one of those also.02:56
Kamping_KaiserDr_Willis: yheh, i do :|02:56
Dr_WillisNOW you are all making me feel old!02:56
blizzkidlol02:56
Kamping_Kaiserrofl02:56
Plus-V-duckyDr_Willis, how expensive are they to ship and could I use it for a terminal server or anything even slightly usefull?02:56
Dr_WillisTracked down the C64 GEOS disk images the other day to try in the VICE emulator...02:56
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bob_4_a_dayoh vic10's02:56
AstxistDr_Willis, !02:57
Dr_WillisPlus-V-ducky,  not really usefull for much of anything these days02:57
blizzkidDr_Willis, where are the days we were irc'ing with an 9600-modem?02:57
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Plus-V-duckyGot a modem or a NIC in it?02:57
Kamping_Kaiserthey are history02:57
Kamping_Kaiseryou gotta keep them02:57
AstxistDr_Willis, I have the manual to c64 geos but not the damn discs02:57
Dr_WillisPlus-V-ducky,  - ya need special Monitors for them, not normal pc monitor.. Serial port.. NEVER even seen a NIC in an amiga02:57
Dr_WillisAstinus,  :P02:57
Dr_Willisoops..02:57
Astxistheh02:57
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warrengif i "apt-get install -y" it won't ask me y/n questions, but is there a way to skip those blue screens that popup for instance when installing mysql that require you to hit OK?02:57
Dr_WillisAstxist,  i have severla of the still shrinkwraped geos box's also.02:57
Gkane!grub02:57
ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:58
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Astxistbut I have a load of other software for my C6402:58
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Dr_WillisAstxist,  the UAE emulator does a DANG good job..02:58
AstxistDr_Willis, heh yeah but I couldn't be bothered setting it up02:58
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Dr_WillisAstxist,  "Amiga In a Box" check it out. :P all ya need is the wb 3.1 floppy disks images and a rom image or 2. :P02:59
Gkanewhen i try to install grub, i will get this error: /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.02:59
Dr_Willisthey took the amiga OS and updated all the stuff. its actually useable.. (barely)02:59
Dr_WillisLOl02:59
Gkaneoh sorry, i mean this:02:59
Gkane/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.02:59
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Plus-V-duckyDr_Willis, canthey talk v.35 or even v.31bis over their '/dev/ttys0'es?02:59
AstxistGkane, had me scratching my head there for a minute02:59
Plus-V-duckyWhat UART?02:59
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Dr_WillisPlus-V-ducky,  no clue.. its been ages.. ive never used Linux on one. ;P i did play with MINIX on one ages ago.03:00
blizzkidI'm getting sick of not finding the solution to my bt-problem :-s03:00
devilz_E: Couldn't find package acroread03:00
devilz_why it cant find this package03:00
Dr_WillisPlus-V-ducky,  in this day of $300 pc's - an amiga as a serial terminal - is barely worth messing with.03:00
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ompaulhttp://www.tuxme.com/ funny results03:00
Plus-V-duckyDr_Willis, that's what Linus started with...03:00
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Astxistdevilz_, you probably need to add repositories to your sources.list03:01
GkaneAstxist, waht u mean?03:01
devilz_Astxist, where can i find03:01
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Astxistdevilz_, what package are you looking for exactly?03:01
bob_4_a_daydevilz_ it's in multiverse03:01
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warrengwhat's the difference between GMT and UTC ?03:02
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devilz_Astxist, well i want to have latest versions03:02
devilz_of packages03:03
Astxistdevilz_, if you do a search for repositiories on the wiki it'll tell you how to add them03:03
bob_4_a_dayhmmm gtm is utc+0 isn't it.03:03
Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, what's that humourous stick site -- bufferspace is expanding as a hyperbolic function here03:03
spiderbatdadhelp!03:03
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devilz_is it good if i add those whoa re on started guide ubuntu03:03
devilz_http://ubuntuguide.org/#synaptic03:03
Plus-V-duckyIf you're available to answer soon, it would be good since I have to be at my lawyer's office in ~27 minutes, Kamping_Kaise103:04
Plus-V-ducky=(03:04
spiderbatdadcan't boot iso cd made from online download03:04
bob_4_a_daydevilz_ you on breezy ?03:04
devilz_what is breezy?03:04
devilz_:(03:04
Kamping_Kaise1Plus-V-ducky: what did you say?03:04
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Plus-V-duckyspiderbatdad, you can use isofs to mount them and Ubuntu can actual install from .iso on a locall HDD --no kidding03:05
spiderbatdadubuntu 5.10 breezy badger03:05
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bob_4_a_daydevilz_  breezy badger = ubuntu 5.1003:05
Astxistdevilz_, breezy badger is 5.1003:05
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devilz_well i have 5.1003:05
devilz_ubuntu03:05
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devilz_thats latest version03:05
bob_4_a_daydevilz_  use  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 this03:05
[Jonne] that's breezy badger03:05
Plus-V-ducky(so saith the omnicient docs, though I haven't tried it myself)03:05
spiderbatdadwindow xp os03:05
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Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, what's that humourous stick site -- bufferspace is expanding as a hyperbolic function here03:06
Kamping_Kaise1http://www.stickpage.com/counterstickseries.shtml03:06
spiderbatdadshould just boot from cd-rom...maybe bad copy?03:06
devilz_bob_4_a_day, ty03:06
Dr_Willisspiderbatdad,  How did you butn the iso image file?03:06
Dr_Willisspiderbatdad,  How did you burn the iso image file?03:06
spiderbatdadms windows cd burner03:07
komenxwhy in ubuntu cd.. command not found ????03:07
imc1Any way to get software 256-bit key AES encryption on Ubuntu ?03:07
bob_4_a_daynp03:07
Dr_Willisspiderbatdad,  check the cd.. if you have a huge '.iso' file - on it.. You dident burn it right03:07
spiderbatdaddo I need to download a new copy with bittorrent?03:07
[Jonne] spiderbatdad, get real cd burning software03:07
[Jonne] no03:07
[Jonne] just burn a new cd03:07
michukHEY, one more question, during Ubuntu install process, can I resize NTFS partition?03:07
Dr_Willisspiderbatdad,  i suggest you use "Burn at once" to burn isos under windoes xp.03:07
spiderbatdadthank you.03:07
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Dr_Willishttp://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads03:08
[Jonne] i'd recommend this free cd burner: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/03:08
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bob_4_a_dayok someone else can be bob for a day now..... i'm like gondi dude03:08
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Dr_Willisgetting where these several good iso butners now for xp. Lol.03:08
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imc1Any one on my encryption question? I want AES to encrypt directories and partitions03:08
Jestreimc1: You can use dm-crypt03:09
[Jonne] make sure you forget your password afterwards03:09
[Jonne] ;)03:09
imc1Jestre, thanks, Jonne, yeah03:09
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michukcan I resize NTFS partition  during Ubuntu install process?03:09
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[Jonne] i've used gparted from the livecd myself03:10
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devilz_btw is it possible in gaim internet messanger to have voice chat03:10
[Jonne] you have to make sure the ntfs partition is not full, and defragged properly03:10
devilz_with microphone03:10
devilz_?03:10
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[Jonne] devilz_, i think that's for the next version03:10
[Jonne] 2.003:10
devilz_yes03:10
devilz_i saw that03:10
Kamping_Kaise1devilz_: not currently03:10
sanketmedhiHello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear.03:10
Kamping_Kaise1try GAIM--vv03:11
Plus-V-duckyheh - rescheduled with my learned friend -- now I wait until AFTER rush hour to drive downtown03:11
Latonehey all .. I am working on my first linux system and can't create folders or files ... I don't know what I did wrong ..03:11
Plus-V-ducky=)03:11
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[Jonne] latone, how are you trying to do it, and where?03:11
[Jonne] is it under /home/username/ ?03:11
devilz_[Jonne] , do you know that is 2.0 coming out03:11
[Jonne] when it's done03:11
Latoneno .. var/www/   for web folders03:12
Plus-V-duckyLatone you need to look at a shell tutorial (one that will cover login, mkdir, cd, ls, rm et. al.)03:12
sanketmedhiHello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear.03:12
Latonetried with mkdir and with right click03:12
[Jonne] you're not allowed to write there by default03:12
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Plus-V-duckyAnyone know of one?03:12
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[Jonne] you'll have to do sudo chown <username>03:12
[Jonne] i mean03:12
[Jonne] sudo chown <username> var/www03:12
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sanketmedhiHello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear. Any ideas anyone?03:12
[Jonne] then you'll be able to do whatever you want03:13
w-muteHi. How can I disable update-notifier on a host programmatically (like editing a file or running a shell command)?03:13
Kamping_Kaise1sanketmedhi: don't spam the channel03:13
Latonecool cool thanks for the tip03:13
[Jonne] you can also opt for sudo chmod 666 var/www03:13
sanketmedhiKamping_Kaise1, i am trying to get attention! :(03:13
[Jonne] which would be even better03:13
Kamping_Kaise1sanketmedhi: ask your question. if no one answers after a while, ask again. spamming wont help03:13
sanketmedhiok sorry03:14
Latonereally .. let me try really quick03:14
UeuecoyotlTo the person who needed a quick shell tutorial -> http://unlser1.unl.csi.cuny.edu/tutorials/QuickUnixTutorial.html03:14
[Jonne] read up on linux' permissions stuff, if you understand that, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble03:14
Plus-V-duckymichuk, not really03:14
wickedpuppyyou want to give read/write access to your web dir to everyone ? ...03:14
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[Jonne] wickedpuppy, why the hell not? it's his system03:14
Plus-V-duckyYou *can* copy partitions if you have equeivalent amount of freespace03:14
devilz_dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:03:15
devilz_ skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:03:15
devilz_  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.03:15
LatoneI am the only user LOL03:15
strokeyDo i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot.03:15
devilz_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:15
devilz_is only available from another source03:15
devilz_However the following packages replace it:03:15
devilz_  libqt3-mt03:15
devilz_E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate03:15
devilz_?!03:15
mjk64Hi all!  The Ubuntu homepage says: "The licences for software applications in /main/ must be free, but main may also may contain binary firmware and selected fonts that cannot be modified without permission from their authors." - can I mask out these not-really-free software automatically when using aptitude (both cmd-line and curses) or apt-get?03:15
w-mutestrokey: the installer can partition the disk.03:15
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devilz_i'm trying sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt03:16
devilz_and i get this msg03:16
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yoschhi guys, how do I remove the noexec flag which get automatically added to an external usb drive?03:16
Plus-V-ducky[Jonne] , the man pages ntfstools say one doesn't need to defrag -- I don't know if this is true since I've had a hard time with last step (sfdisk) of resizing ntfs parts03:16
[Jonne] maybe try nonfree or something03:16
strokeyw-mute: so i load up the installer, and it will auto make a dual boot?03:16
Hoxzersomebody knows what option I need to use in imagemagic to create images smaller than 1024 kbytes03:16
wickedpuppy[Jonne] , did you explained to him what does chmod 666 do ?03:16
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Plus-V-duckyButis *seemed* to work just fine at the CLI ntfresize or GUI gparted stagee03:17
[Jonne] i think i read somewhere a defrag was necessary. It can't hurt in any case03:17
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[Jonne] wickedpuppy, i told him to read up on linux' permissions03:17
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[Jonne] i hope he does that03:17
wickedpuppy[Jonne] , wouldn't it be safer to mkdir /var/www/dir_name and chown it ? instead of chmod the whole dir ?03:18
Plus-V-ducky[Jonne] , it *used* to be necessary. And of course you're right -- it can't hurt anything (except your time budget) and is a pain if you have to reboot to a M$ enviro to defrag (do you know of an ntfs defraggger for Linux?)03:19
Kamping_Kaise1wickedpuppy: it would be eaiser to make a symlink from /var/www/username to /home/username/public_html03:19
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pistolerowhat is the command to put the console in background?03:19
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=== Plus-V-ducky always used to defrag part'ns with format | mkfs and xcopy | dd
Plus-V-duckyhehehe03:19
Plus-V-ducky(also Ghost)03:19
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wickedpuppyeither way ... but chmodding the web dir would be the last option i would go for ...03:20
[Jonne] wickedpuppy,  i'm only a n00b in linux things, so i'm not sure what the best practice is03:20
Plus-V-duckyclone it, then clone it back -- way faster and works even if the pt'n is too full to defrag under `doze03:20
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juliuxhi has some one tried out gnome bluetooth control remote ?03:20
[Jonne] i'm assuming he's setting up a simple testing box for himself, so he's not risking much03:20
Plus-V-duckypistolero, which console?  (you can't really 'background' your ttys just switch between them)03:21
idiot!limewire03:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.03:21
idiot!java03:21
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:21
pistoleroPlus-V-ducky, terminal03:21
Plus-V-duckyUnless you mean something fancy with screen or even mgetty03:21
idiot!javadebs03:21
ubotu[javadebs]  Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/03:21
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pistolerothe window console in the X mode03:22
Plus-V-duckypistolero, an x-windows terminal?03:22
oNe^somewherei installed java last week but have errors on the java script console03:22
Plus-V-duckypistolero, there should be an x-windows widget (minimize; restore; maximize buttons)03:22
pistoleroits a comand ctrl + something03:23
Plus-V-duckyCtrl-Z to suspend a *process* if that's what you mean.03:23
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Plus-V-duckyI don't know a shortcut -- I'd like to know myself -- until I get an eraserhead point right on my keyboard it would come in handy03:24
pistoleroPlus-V-ducky,  let me explain.. ive downloaded amsn.. and im executing it with ./amsn ( console ), so if i close the console the amsn close too.. a friend of mine said that if i put the console in bg and type bg afetr.. it wont happen03:24
pistolerodo u have any solution ?03:24
Plus-V-duckypistolero, uhhh... don't close the console until you're done?  (minimizing it is fine)03:25
Dr_Willisuse the 'exit' command to close the shell window.. DONT just click on the close button.03:25
pistolero=/03:25
Dr_Willis./msn &03:25
Dr_Willisexit03:25
Plus-V-duckyDr_Willis, I don't think he can do Ctrl-D03:25
Dr_Willis:P03:25
Plus-V-duckyohhh -- duh03:25
Plus-V-duckyhehehe03:25
Dr_Willis:P03:25
pistolerohow can i exec amsn without use the console!03:25
pistolero?03:25
Dr_Willispistolero,  add a laucher for it.03:25
Pegasos989I know this isn't exactly about operating system, but anyways... If I would like to set my computer as a proxy for my IRCing, where should I start? I mean that I would like to connect to IRC thro a browser or something so that the client would be on my computer (IPs to irc and everything would be as my comp). If you think that this is too much offtopic, could someone recommend me another channel?03:26
Dr_Willisbyeee...03:26
titanium_is 30C an ok temperature for a sata hdd, or do i need to invest in another case fan?03:26
pistolerohow ? im newbaby!03:26
strokeyDo i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot. Like, would it do it auto?03:26
Plus-V-duckyadd it to your path and chmod it +x03:26
Plus-V-duckythen make a shorcut03:26
pistolerohmm ?03:26
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pistoleroim brazilian.. my english is not so good03:26
pistolerocan u explain in more word plz!03:26
strokeyd03:26
Plus-V-ducky....03:26
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pistolerosrry03:27
pistolerocan u ?03:27
idiotIs there anyway to get write access to an NTFS Partition, I heard other distros can do it if its built into the kernel.03:27
idioti just want to write a few mp3's to it.03:27
Plus-V-duckyI'm *thinking* gimme a minute! (can't you tell by the smoke coming out my ears?!)03:28
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Plus-V-duckyidiot type !ntfstools03:28
Plus-V-ducky=oD03:28
pistolerohehe03:28
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idiot!ntfstools03:28
Pegasos989!temperature03:29
ubotuPegasos989: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:29
Plus-V-duckyI just made an entry and I'm so *#$% proud of myself I could [censored] ...03:29
idiotplus-v-ducky i don't want to resize...03:29
idioti want to write a file to my ntfs.03:29
Pegasos989And another question, this time maybe a bit more related to os... Does ubuntu have a feature to show me my computer temperatures or do I need to get 3rd party oftware?03:29
Plus-V-duckyidiot mk.ntfs and ntfsmount are part of ntfstools too -- follow the link we supplied and read the docs03:29
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Ron_oidiot, my understanding is you can read NTFS but can't write to it.03:30
Latoneokay .. I used the command sudo chown <username> /var/www and now my folders look like files with footprint icons03:30
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pistoleroPlus-V-ducky,  write the commands and where i must put them.. and i ll03:30
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idiotRon_o, are you sure? =O03:30
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idiotbecause in the gentoo kernel there is a option "NTFS Write Support"03:30
idiotPlus-V-Ducky, I don't want to make a new ntfs partition, I want to use my current one and put some files on it03:30
idiot-_-03:30
UeuecoyotlPegasos989, search for "temperature" in synaptic package manager and you'll find a couple of packages03:31
Plus-V-duckyidiot, that's not *completely* true any anymore (but writing is not stable yet)03:31
Ron_oidiot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%2903:31
Pegasos989Ueuecoyotl, thanks03:31
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idiotk03:31
LeeJunFanwriting to ntfs from linux is useless, you can only write to an existing file and you can't change the size of the file, you can also not create files.03:32
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[Jonne] i just have a fat partition that i mounted in my home directory03:33
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Plus-V-duckyubotu forget ntfstools03:34
ubotui forgot ntfstools, Plus-V-ducky03:34
Plus-V-duckyntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (safely resizes ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highli03:34
Plus-V-duckyght=%28ntfs%2903:34
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mikulwhere can i find som good lists to pu int my /etc/apt/sources.list?03:35
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Plus-V-duckyubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%2903:35
ubotuPlus-V-ducky: okay03:35
simonvalloreHello03:35
strokeyDo i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot. Like, would it do it auto?03:35
simonvallorei have the win32 codecs but when i play a movie i have no sound03:36
Kamping_Kaise1Stormx2: they installer can make the partitions03:36
strokeyKamping_Kaise1. would it do it auto? im scared of them :|03:37
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Stormx2Kamping_Kaise1: Yeah I know03:37
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Kamping_KaiserStormx2: don't know. never tried it03:37
kjcolesimonvallore, the only thing that worked for me (after going through the RestrictedFormats wiki page) was gxine.  Others would sometimes play sound but no video or video but no sound. gxine got both once I'd installed all the codecs, etc.03:37
Stormx2strokey: Not quite03:37
mikulwhere can i find som good package lists to put into my /etc/apt/sources.list?03:37
simonvallorekj can i pm you03:37
Stormx2strokey: What happens, is you need to resize the current partition down, then select "Automaticly partition the free space"03:38
simonvallorekjcole,  can i pm you03:38
Stormx2strokey: This can all be done from the installer03:38
strokeyso03:38
strokeyif i make this big partioton03:38
Stormx2!tell mikul about easysource03:38
strokey70 gb of 11403:38
strokeyit would use the rest|?03:38
Stormx2Yes.03:38
strokeyis it simple in the installer? ><03:39
Stormx2strokey: Yes03:39
UeuecoyotlVery simple03:39
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kjcolesimonvallore, I'm in a meeting on #ubuntu-meeting at the moment...03:39
strokeymkay03:39
strokeyand woul dit auto dual boot?03:39
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rohanhi all03:39
rohanis there a program that will allow me to pick colors from the complete screen ?03:39
mikulStorm2: url?03:39
UeuecoyotlStrikeForce, Yup03:39
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Stormx2!easysource03:39
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:39
Plus-V-duckymikul, don't use Debian packages indiscrimately with Ubuntu or you'll break your system03:39
mikulahaa03:39
Stormx2^^ there03:39
fruudHow do i update my ubuntu to knubuntu ? (that able?)03:39
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Plus-V-ducky!repos03:40
uboturepos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource03:40
Stormx2!kubuntu03:40
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:40
[Jonne] rohan: colorzilla, for stuff in your firefox window03:40
blizzkidfruud: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:40
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unfitohello03:40
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unfitodoes anyone use kiax on breezy?03:40
fruudblizzkid, thanks!03:40
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rohan[Jonne] : no, the complete screen03:40
[Jonne] rohan, or use the gimp03:40
unfitoi cant compile it03:40
Plus-V-duckymikul, look at that 'repos' URL03:40
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rohan[Jonne] : gimp doesnt allow complete scree03:40
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blizzkidyw fruud03:40
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[Jonne] sure it does03:40
fruud:] ~03:40
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rohanor better still, a kde .kscrc color theme that has brown .. anyone has that ?03:41
Stormx2rohan: Go into the gimp, that can do it.03:41
unfitoor any other iax client?03:41
[Jonne] file>acquire>screenshot>the whole screen03:41
Kamping_Kaiserdamn i hate having a local mirror. it updates *way* to fast03:41
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Plus-V-duckyYou're looking pretty hoopy this morning, fruud ;-)03:41
Kamping_Kaisera Hoary -> Breezy dist-upgrade in 1m 4 seconds :( bugger03:41
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fruudPlus-V-ducky, woot03:41
Plus-V-ducky[cd H2G2] 03:41
Stormx2Kamping_Kaiser: lol03:41
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fruudis it really free to order ubuntu cds ?03:42
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fruudabsolutely free ?03:42
_jasonfruud, yes03:42
rohanStormx2: i cant find an option there03:42
Stormx2fruud: Absolutely03:42
unfitoabsolutely03:42
Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, are you sure that wasn't gentoo -- heh?03:42
chrisx1hey i ordered 5 Breezy CD's and it was like 4 weeks agi03:42
Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: very ;)03:42
Stormx2rohan: Go to colour dropper03:42
Ueuecoyotlfruud, Yeah but it takes some time before you get the cd's03:42
chrisx1And They Aint come yet03:42
fruudshall i choose gdm or kdm in that install blizzkid ??03:42
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[Jonne] chrisx1, it takes ages to get them03:42
Stormx2rohan: Then go to part of the screen, and click03:42
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Kamping_Kaiserchrisx1: i ordered 300, :)03:42
drarchehhi, i'm installing breezy, but one package install failed (after the reboot). What is the best way to resume the installation?03:42
fruudoh okey03:42
d3javufruud, ubuntu sent me 10 cds. within 1 and half months.03:42
blizzkidchrisx1, I had to wait for 6 weeks03:42
chrisx1LOL03:42
chrisx1kk03:42
[Jonne] you're better off downloading the torrent with 56K03:42
_jasonchrisx1, mine took almost two months and for some people it takes longer03:42
fruudlolx03:42
blizzkidfruud: gdm03:42
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fruudthanks blizzkid03:43
rohanfruud: the cds are free, but will take time. better to just download yourself :)03:43
fruudi want original cds :)03:43
Kamping_Kaiserif you want quick cds, shipit is not what your after03:43
Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, will you support my 'Freaky Frog' name campaign for the 2nd 2006 release?03:43
Kamping_Kaiserif your after nice cds, shipiit is the best :)03:43
rohanyes03:43
Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: sure03:43
rohanthe cds looks KEWL03:43
rohan:)03:43
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Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: is there any concept art yet? ;)03:43
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nosilver4uif a usb device automounts, where is it actually mounted?03:44
blizzkidI ordered 15: 10 for x86, 3 64-bit and 2 mac03:44
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_jasonPlus-V-ducky, i thoguth they were going alphabetical now?03:44
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nosilver4unm, found it03:44
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fruudblizzkid, after iv installed knubuntu. sould i remove ubuntu ?03:44
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unfitodoes anyone use kiax on breezy? i cant compile it03:44
rohanStormx2: i still cant get it to work :(03:44
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blizzkidfruud: no03:44
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fruudokay03:44
rohanStormx2: i want #XXXXXX code of the color03:44
blizzkidit's "part" of ubuntu03:44
fruudokay03:44
rohanfruud: new to linux ? or wanna try ubuntu ?03:45
blizzkidat least I guess, if you still want to be able to use gnome03:45
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fruudoh btw, on my brothers pc i find quake2 through apt-get why not on mine ?03:45
Plus-V-duckygreat, Kamping_Kaiser !  Will you hack up the petition form site for http://ubuntu.arnducky.net/name-that-beast.php?/  Yeah stolen from the Crazy Frog ~.avi03:45
fruudkinda yes :P03:45
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mikul^03:45
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mikulthx, for now :)03:45
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griffin_anyone have experience getting lexmark printers to work in Ubuntu?03:45
chrisx1is breezy version 5.1003:45
chrisx1?03:45
Kamping_Kaiseryes03:45
chrisx1kk ty03:45
Kamping_Kaisergriffin_: a bit03:45
_jasonchrisx1, yes, the way it works is year 2005 and month 1003:46
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rohananyone know how to select colors from the complete screen ?!03:46
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unuhello03:46
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Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, I want he DE developers to change all the  system dot-wavs to crazy meep-meeps03:46
unui'm trying to get vim to work in kdevelop03:46
_jasonrohan, take a screenshot and open it in gimp03:46
unuin breezy03:46
ComputerAlexyes, i have Lekmark z11 on my Ubuntu03:46
Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: bwhaahaa cool03:46
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griffin_I have a Lex Z603, set it up in the printers menu, but Ubuntu doesnt have the right driver.03:46
rohan_jason: oh, ok.. nice idea :)03:46
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unubut after configuring it in kcontrol, it still doen't show up in kdevelop config03:46
blizzkidanyone knows if a Canon i560 will work on ubuntu?03:46
griffin_I downloaded drivers from lex, but hey are not ppd03:46
Kamping_Kaisergriffin_: tried lexmark to see if they provide a driver?03:46
fruudlol btw, iv been reading lots on the net for using ps 7.0 on linux, they said u need original cd to start it, i got it to work without kinda easy...03:47
griffin_they came in a shell file03:47
Kamping_Kaiserblizzkid: i don't know for sure, but IIRC those do. check linuxprinting.org03:47
unujoin #vim03:47
griffin_I wondered if running the sh in the right directory might get things working03:47
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blizzkidPlus-V-ducky, I can't connect to that site you gave??03:47
Kamping_Kaiserbbl. trying to find someone in the runescape world (wish me luck)03:47
griffin_But I am not sure where to run the sh or if it even matters03:48
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fruudcentericq is the shit : D03:48
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rohanfinally !03:48
rohanthanks, _jason03:48
rohan:)03:48
Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, if you don't know js, php or coldfusion, you can use my devarchive (http://arnducky.net/v|r/  <-- '|' = 0x7c) to do it with HTML4 and CSS2 .  So when can expect a draft in my incoming imap folders?03:49
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_jasonrohan, np03:49
Plus-V-ducky=oD03:49
Kamping_Kaiser:P03:49
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_jasonubotu, tell blizzkid about printing03:49
jeanjacqueshello03:49
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Plus-V-duckyblizzkid, it was joke -- but if *enough* people thought it was funny I could add ubuntu.arnducky.net to my dns and point it at an httpd host -- heh.03:50
jeanjacquesi'm trying to repair my hard drive using an ubuntu livecd, wich tool could i use to repair my hard drive ?03:50
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blizzkidoh, k, sorry Plus-V-ducky03:50
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Plus-V-duckyno need to apologize, FGS03:50
Plus-V-ducky=)03:50
blizzkid:)03:50
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hawkingI guess a new kernel was released yesterday 2.6.10 right?03:51
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Kamping_Kaiserhawking: 2.6.10 is what's in Hoary03:51
asdxi have a shared printer on Windows XP (hp laserjet 1000 usb) and i want to use it on ubuntu, what shall i use?? SMB or CUPS?03:51
Plus-V-duckyhawking, are you trolling?  2.6.13-2 has been out for months03:51
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LeeJunFanasdx: both.03:51
idiotIs there a console command to see how fast my CPU is?03:51
asdxI already used SMB and ubuntu said it's ready but dosn't work03:51
blizzkidYou know what would be really cool in ubuntu? an implementation of mac's adress book. Pair up a bluetooth phone and see an alert for an incoming call03:51
asdxLeeJunFan: dosn't work :S03:51
hawkingnoone knows_03:51
Kamping_Kaiseridiot: cat /proc/cpuinfo03:51
unuanyone around here embedding vim in kdevelop?03:52
idiotI have a problem03:52
idiotMy AMD 64 3500+ reads as 999mhz.....03:52
Plus-V-duckyidiot do you mean a benchmarking tool rating systems in bogomips?03:52
idiotand its like 1.8ghz.03:52
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hawkingPlus-V-ducky : hmm I didn't know that... how can i upgrade to it?03:52
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asdxi can't configure a damn printer03:52
Plus-V-duckyidiot, that's probably a BIOS FSB x clock multiplier problem03:52
asdx:S03:52
Kamping_Kaiseridiot: do you have powersaving turned on?03:52
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LeeJunFanasdx: cups will provide the driver interface and samba-client will connect to your windows server. make sure you have samba-client and freetype and hplip (if it's an HP printer) installed.03:53
idiotNot that I am aware of.03:53
idiotWhen I boot into windows its 1.8ghz03:53
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Latonewhy would a folder not be able to be displayed?03:53
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asdxLeeJunFan: i don't have a samba client here03:53
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Kamping_KaiserLatone: lots of reasons03:53
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Plus-V-duckyhawking, i'm only a few days with Ubuntu .  I just know the apt-get (or aptitude | synaptic way)03:53
LeeJunFanasdx: you need to install samba-client on your linux box to get it to talk to the samba server that is your windows machine.03:54
Latonepermissions are open ...03:54
idiotI will be right back I know my AMD 64 isn't 999mhz.. lmfao03:54
asdxLeeJunFan: apt-get install samba?03:54
Plus-V-duckyhawking, I believe you  just install the kernael-image that matches your architecture03:54
LeeJunFanasdx: apt-get install samba-client03:54
Plus-V-duckyif it doesn't have a version number after it, then it will automatically install the newest one available from your Ubuntu repository03:55
asdxdamn03:55
hawkingPlus-V-ducky: how can i learn which kernel I have03:55
DeadZedmy screen resolution is 640x320 .. no matter what I do or change my  xorg.conf file. .. Installed nvidia drivers and it automatically detects my sony cpd screen03:55
Plus-V-duckyGRUB finds new kernels automatically now too03:55
LeeJunFanasdx: w/o that cups can't talk to your windows machine, cups will take your print job, convert it to the correct format for your printer, then use samba to send it to windows.03:55
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Plus-V-duckyuname -k03:55
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hawkingPlus-V-ducky : oh I have 2.6.12.903:56
Plus-V-duckyuname -r03:56
Plus-V-duckysorry03:56
DeadZeduname -k invalid option03:56
DeadZeduname -a ??03:56
Plus-V-duckyuname -a (for 'all')03:57
blizzkidhere it's 2.6.12-1003:57
hawkingwhat is the latest kernel?03:57
asdxthat should be by default on ubuntu03:57
Plus-V-duckyhawking, check kernel.org03:57
aftertafthe package is called linux-386|686|k7   and it always depends on the latest available kernel.03:57
DeadZedand again ...03:57
DeadZedmy screen resolution is 640x320 .. no matter what I do or change my  xorg.conf file. .. Installed nvidia drivers and it automatically detects my sony cpd screen03:57
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idiotHello I am back03:58
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idiotwhen I boot into Windows it says 2.20GHz on my amd 64 3500+03:58
DeadZedhello idiot03:58
idiotand in linux it says 999mhz...03:58
hawkingPlus-V-ducky: latest stable is 2.6.14.2!03:58
oNe^somewheredoes any1 know where i can get mp3 codecs ?03:58
Plus-V-duckyIf you mean how to check on with ubuntu, I'm not sure without installing it if they haven't included the latest in apt-cache03:58
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DeadZedidiot  are you a bot ?03:58
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idiotno03:58
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idioti need help03:58
DeadZedsound like one03:58
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j813hi guys03:59
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idiotKamping_Kaiser, you still here?03:59
Kamping_Kaiseridiot: yeh03:59
idiotRemember my problem a few mins ago03:59
idiotLinux sees my CPU speed @ 999mhz03:59
idiotand Windows is 2.20GHz03:59
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idiotwhat should I do?04:00
Plus-V-duckyKamping_Kaiser, did you look at the new ntfs entry?04:00
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Kamping_Kaiseridiot: do you have powernow daemon running?04:00
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idiotI don't know.04:00
Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: not yet04:00
idioti never checked.04:00
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about ntfs04:00
idiotwhats the command to start it?04:00
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Kamping_Kaiseridiot: it should start by default IIRC04:00
Plus-V-duckyidiot, you could check out powertweak too (it even runs as a daemon)04:00
oxhi - I'm trying to get a better screen resolution on my dell inspiron 5100 with breezy, I have 1024x768, but I want 1400x1050, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver, but I always end up with 1024X768. What do I need to do?04:00
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blizzkidKamping_Kaiser, couldn't it be he installed the x86-version?04:01
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idiotHOld on let me go back into linux, brb -__-04:01
Latoneokay ... got the folders working ... thanks for the help04:01
Kamping_Kaisercould be yes04:01
Latonenow to figure out why ubuntu doesn't see the internet but does see the network04:01
mikulI am getting an error when i downloading the new list with apt-get update:04:01
Plus-V-duckyidiot, are you running a *#%ing Centrino (P-IV M with Intel speed choke... err stepping) CPU?04:01
blizzkidI suggest he pastes the output of uname -r here04:02
Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: perhaps drop the hpfs reference and put in a asdk about !ntfs tools bit?04:02
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Kamping_KaiserPlus-V-ducky: he's running an atholon 6404:02
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mikul# Automatically generated sources.list04:02
mikul# http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:02
mikul# Ubuntu supported packages (packages)04:02
mikuldeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted04:02
mikul# Ubuntu community supported packages (packages)04:02
mikuldeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse04:02
mikul# Seveas' packages (packages)04:02
Plus-V-duckyHuh -- I thought that was in there -- too many versions, too few bytes04:02
mikuldeb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all04:02
mikul# Ubuntu backports project (packages)04:02
mikuldeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:02
mikul# Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages)04:02
mikuldeb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main04:02
mikul# Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)04:02
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mikuldeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/04:02
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Kamping_Kaiserwahoa04:02
mikul# OpenOffice.org 2 final packages (packages)04:02
mikuldeb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./04:03
mikul# Penguin Liberation Front (packages)04:03
mikuldeb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free04:03
jeanjacqueshey i can't find the root password for the ubuntu live cd help me please04:03
mikulwrong04:03
mikulsorry04:03
Plus-V-duckywoah!04:03
mikulW: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D46604:03
Kamping_Kaisermikul: don't *ever* do that again04:03
mikulW: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B304:03
Plus-V-ducky!pastebin04:03
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:03
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mikulthats the right one :P04:03
trappistjeanjacques: there is none.  use sudo.04:03
idiotWhat am I looking for? - I use gnome04:03
jeanjacquesok trappist  thanks04:03
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Plus-V-duckymikul use the pastebin URL04:03
Kamping_Kaisermikul: the point of that was?04:03
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idiotPlus-V-Ducky, what am I looking for that 'daemon thing'04:03
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j813Hi guys, NVidia Video card driver 7676 only supports Kernel 2.6-13?04:03
mikulokej, will do!04:03
TeddHi.04:04
blizzkididiot, start a terminal and type uname -r and tell us what it says04:04
TeddWow, lotsa people need help, huh04:04
TeddI'll wait 'till someone can help.04:04
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idiot2.6.12-9-amd64-generic04:04
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trappistTedd: no one will be able to help until you ask a question04:04
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navaroneTedd> just ask and someone will try to help if they can04:04
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Plus-V-duckyidiot, it can tweak your system, but I bet it's your BIOS (CPU clock issues usually are)04:04
idiotI already checked.04:04
TeddWell, it seems that for some reason it just won't take the disk.04:04
idiotI booted into windows, it sees 2.20ghz04:04
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idiotits not the bios04:04
Kamping_Kaiserit's probably a kernel/bios interaction thing04:05
idiotlinux sees it at 999mhz, windows sees it as 2.2ghz04:05
TeddI've already changed the BIOS option to load IDE first.04:05
Kamping_Kaiserunless it feels crap, don't worry to much04:05
Stormx2idiot: haha04:05
idiotit feels like crap -_-04:05
Stormx2Anyone noticed how ubuntu is slowly taking over gnome-look.org ?04:05
idioti am missing out on more then half my processor.04:05
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DribbelHi!04:06
Kamping_Kaiseranyone know where i can find a nice simple chroot howto?04:06
LeeJunFanidiot: it's probably power saving, it will only turn your processor up when it needs to be, you aren't missing anything.04:06
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mikulok, i will try again. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/491504:06
idiotLeeJunFan - I don't think so04:06
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idiotwhen I needed it, it stayed the same.04:06
idiothow can I turn off power saving?04:06
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mikuli get that when i run apt-get update04:06
Plus-V-duckyidiot, no idea then --I don't have any fancy new 64-bit hardware to play with here (closest I've come was choot or BSD root jail shell accounts)04:06
LeeJunFanidiot: is it a laptop?04:07
idiotno04:07
idiotDesktop computer.04:07
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Plus-V-duckyLeeJunFan, with amd64 ?04:07
TeddAnybody got any ideas? I changed the BIOS settings but it just won't load the disk in.04:07
LeeJunFanPlus-V-ducky:  mine is :)04:07
idiothow can i turn off power options04:07
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Plus-V-duckyLeeJunFan, idiot has an amd64 'desktop'.04:07
navaronewhat comamnd to see what processor linuc sees?04:07
UeuecoyotlDoes anyone here use Psi (http://psi-im.org)?04:07
da_shrewdhello04:07
navaronelinux*04:07
Latoneso with the apache up and running and folders working ... do I just have someone out the network got to <ipaddress><folder> to see website?04:08
da_shrewdi have problem04:08
da_shrewdanybody can help me?04:08
Plus-V-duckynavarone, you'd have to cat something or use an applet04:08
blizzkidda_shrewd, maybe if you tell us what your problem is04:08
idiotHow can I turn off power saving in Linux04:08
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DribbelWhere are the ubuntu firewall/port settings? I enabled a ssh server (and it is running, and working for useder@localhoast) but i can;t connect from anyt other pc on my lan. It says connecrion refused to port 20. Any suggestions?04:10
TeddHmm.04:10
hawkingam i evil?04:10
hawkingyes I am04:10
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Kamping_KaiserDribbel: is it listening on a public ip?04:10
idiotHow can I turn off power saving in Linux04:10
Plus-V-duckyidiot, do you mean apm | apci pwoersaving (suspend-resume crap)?04:10
LeeJunFanidiot: try this: sudo echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor04:10
casolaciao04:10
AgrajagDribbel: port 20?04:10
Agrajagssh doesn't run on 2004:10
da_shrewdblizzkid,i have problem with my cd-rom04:10
casolaciao04:11
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Seveasda_shrewd, be more specific...04:11
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blizzkidda_shrewd, I have problem with pants04:11
scud_aloha pantas04:11
idiotHuh04:11
Dribbelduh, 22 ofcourse:   ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused04:11
pantashelo04:11
idiotoh04:11
Dribbelmy bad04:11
idiotNow what04:11
pantasl04:11
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indigirl1why 12 (3x4) repositories (excluding src) in breezy - this seems like more than before.04:11
LeeJunFanidiot: check your speed.04:11
nxv_can anybody tell me how to use truetype fonts with aterm?04:12
da_shrewdlast week,before i upgrade my ubuntu,i can play audio cd with my cd-rom04:12
LeeJunFanidiot: and just how are you checking your speed?04:12
idiotooooo04:12
idiotit worked.04:12
idiotnow it says cpu MHz         : 2199.84004:12
idiot:)04:12
idiotWill it say like this when I reboot?04:12
TeddCan anybody help me out? The disc that I burned Ubuntu to just won't load. It doesn't even recognize it.04:12
da_shrewdbut now,after upgrade,my cd-rom doesn't detect any cd04:12
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LeeJunFanidiot: no, but now we have an idea of what's doing it.04:12
idiotwhats doing it =(04:12
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navaronePlus-V-Ducky> In System/Admin/Devices  I can see the processor listed in entries but it gives no info. However in Adnaced tab it states something like "processor_throttle"  "false". Would I be wrong to assume that this means the os cannot dynamically lower processor speed to save power? That may be idiot's prob as was suggested if amd 64bit arch supports throttling processor...just a thought04:13
blizzkidTedd, did you burn cd from image or just put the iso on a cd?04:13
TeddOooh.04:13
TeddI burned the ISO onto a CD.04:13
TeddSorry. I was wondering what that meant.04:13
LeeJunFanidiot: powernowd probably.04:13
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Tedd(I'm a bit new at this, sorry.)04:13
LeeJunFanidiot: remove it if you have it.04:13
idiotlet me check.04:13
idiotYeah I have it04:13
indigirl1repositories seem redundant -- why an update repository04:13
LeeJunFanidiot: sudo apt-get remove powernowd04:14
da_shrewdany respon from my problem?04:14
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idiotk04:14
navaroneLee> check my post above to see if it makes sense plz...:)04:14
idiotAll gone04:14
blizzkidTedd, no need to apologize04:14
LeeJunFanidiot: then it shouldn't put it into a power saving mode on your next boot.04:14
idiotnow if I restart my CPU speed should be @ 2.204:14
LeeJunFanidiot: should be.04:14
TeddSo what would 'burn the cd from image' mean?04:14
idiotOk, let me try ;) thx for your help04:14
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Plus-V-duckyAsk LeeJunFan.  I really have no clue about that as I've never had the chance to play with it.  Though I'm following this with interest as I've install Ubuntu on a customer's powerstepping Centrino laptop to get him to consider using Linux.04:14
blizzkidTedd, what burning software do you use?04:14
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TeddThe standard Windows one.04:15
da_shrewdany respon from my problem?04:15
TeddIt doesn't really have a name.04:15
da_shrewdlast week,before i upgrade my ubuntu,i can play audio cd with my cd-rom04:15
TeddWhat should I try?04:15
TeddRoxio?04:15
da_shrewdbut now,after upgrade,my cd-rom doesn't detect any cd04:15
blizzkidTedd, search microsoft.com for the iso-burner or get a demo of nero04:15
TeddIso-Burner. Got it. Thanks a lot.04:15
Plus-V-duckynavarone, what you say *sounds* reasonable, but your guess is better than mine04:15
navaronePlus> I doubt that...lol04:16
monhi. gnome-panel often takes up more Ram (~100M) than Xorg. could this be because of a specific applet and if so how do i find out which?04:16
da_shrewdsomebody,please help me04:16
da_shrewdanybody?04:16
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Plus-V-duckynavarone, I believe Ubuntu *does* support throttling from something I've read, but maybe it needs a package04:16
da_shrewdnobody? :(04:16
TeddNothing from Microsoft on Iso-Burner and jesus CHRIST is it cold in here.04:17
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idiotIt worked, thanks.04:17
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LeeJunFanidiot: yer welcome.04:17
blizzkidTedd, download a demo of nero04:17
kandoora_does anyone know anything about flash for linux f4l04:17
navaronePlus> probably the thing Lee told idiot to remove04:17
hoopotushow do I acticate the recovery-mode???04:17
hoopotus*activate04:17
TeddHmm. Before going that far, would this work blizzkid04:17
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Teddhttp://www.download.com/Instant-CD-DVD-Burner/3000-2646_4-10454016.html?tag=lst-0-104:17
Matrice64I have the same problem too, I burned ubuntu from image using k3b and the cd won't boot although I can read the cd and see all the files :S04:17
TeddIt says in the subject 'and ISO files'.04:17
da_shrewdseveas,can u help me?04:17
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da_shrewdi need ur help04:18
Plus-V-duckyCertainly they've aimed right at laptops with STR and STD (no pun intended), bluetooth, and broadcom/ndiswrapper support04:18
ClayGanyone know a good program to convert a .bin into a mpg?04:18
ClayGif it is an mpg, of coarse04:18
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ClayGbesides burning it then pulling the mpg off? Is there a daemontools or vcdgear for nix04:18
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Plus-V-duckyMatrice64, do the MD5 checksums match?04:19
kandoora_does anyone here use any program for making flash files04:19
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Dribbelhmm still no luck with ssh access, still "Connection refused"04:19
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da_shrewdhelp me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee04:19
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, yes, I downloaded it from that page with the mirrored sites04:19
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LeeJunFanPlus-V-ducky: powernowd is for AMD64's only I beleive, intel uses a different technology called speedstepping, I dont know if the powernowd will have the same effect on a non-amd system but it should because the acpi settings in the kernel /sys dir should be the same.04:19
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IRCMonkey999newbie here. Where can i download vlc for ubuntu and how do i instal it?04:20
Plus-V-duckyAnd after you burnt it, did you mkmd5sum on the actual CD?04:20
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ClayGahh there is a vcdgear for nix, and it's only CLI04:20
Plus-V-duckyLeeJunFan, TYVM04:20
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, I'm not sure I can't remember, plus I've already utterly deleted the iso :(04:20
kandoora_does anyone use any flash making program04:20
LeeJunFanPlus-V-ducky: yeah, powernowd will work - apt-cache show powernowd04:20
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indigirl1IRCMonkey999, add repositories universe and multiverse within synaptic package manager04:21
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Plus-V-duckyMatrice64, it's not something silly like a BIOS switch04:21
Plus-V-duckyLeeJunFan, I think I read about powernowd in a gentoo Centrino laptop install howto04:21
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: i dont understand soo much. am a new user to linux. can you please tell me how to do that. i am on gnome desktop now.04:22
_jasonkandoora_, I don't use it but I have heard of a program called flash4linux... try searching sourceforge04:22
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, afiak when I set the boot device it does nothing but brings me back to lilo04:22
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Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, can't I do a command and boot it from lilo ?04:22
LeeJunFanPlus-V-ducky: yeah, the package info says the name is misleading and that it will work for any cpufreq capable processor.04:22
kandoora__jason, thanx04:22
da_shrewdseveas,i need your help please04:22
UeuecoyotlIn the Ubuntu FAQ Guide it says "network.dns.disableIPv6  - Set the Value  parameter to true." to load web sites faster. Why does that speed things up?04:22
Seveasda_shrewd, I am very busy04:22
indigirl1IRCMonkey999, top left corner, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager04:23
TeddBlizzkid: Thanks for the help; this Instant CD & DVD Burner's "Burn ISO" function seems to be working.04:23
SeveasUeuecoyotl, many providers suck at ipv6 support, so disabling it speeds up a lot04:23
TeddHopefully next time we speak I'll be using Ubuntu :)04:23
da_shrewdanybody kindly to help me04:23
Plus-V-duckyMatrice64, so it's like there's no boot code there.  Yeah,but I'd replace LILO with GRUB just on priciple, then you only have to learn GRUB commands04:23
TeddThanks a lot, guys.04:23
UeuecoyotlSeveas, Ah, didn't know that. Thanks.04:23
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Plus-V-duckyMatrice64 -- maybe silly but is possible that it's going by so fast after post that you're not even seing the 'hit any key to boot from CD message'?04:24
indigirl1IRCMonkey999, Settings->Repositories->Add04:24
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, yeah, its like it skips the whole cd and goes to lilo.. when I use grub what command do I need to do too boot?04:24
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: nothings happening or opening.04:24
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky,04:24
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, I'll try to tap keys04:24
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: just some sound and i dont see any windows :(04:24
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Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, let me reboot and try it okay04:24
Plus-V-duckyYou could look at the CD for boot code too04:25
LeeJunFanMatrice64: sounds like the bios is set to boot CD first, might try hitting escape during post to get a list of available boot devices to select from too.04:25
Plus-V-ducky(if you canmoutn it)04:25
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: should i reboot and try. i have not yet rebooted after installing ubuntu04:25
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indigirl1IRCMonkey999, what did you click?04:25
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Matrice64thanks guys I'll brb, I'm gonna try it04:25
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Plus-V-duckySOme BIOS use F12 or even F8 (*like a certain OS we all *love*)04:26
needvpnI installed Ubuntu with a static IP.  I now need to use DHCP.  I have the DHCP client installed.  How do I get my computer to use dhcp instead?04:26
da_shrewdanyone,please help me04:26
ClayGF8? That would sucks trying to time  SM04:26
DeadZedmy Ubuntu-nvidia-sony.CRT screen resolution is 640x320 ... no matter what I do or how I change xorg.conf.  ..  ubuntu recognises nvidia card and sony screen absolutely correctly, but I cannot change resolution04:26
IRCMonkey999system -> administration -> synaptic package manager04:26
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IRCMonkey999indigirl1: infact nothing in the administration menu opens when i click them04:26
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IRCMonkey999indigirl1: when i click "users and groups" something comes up in the status bar and disappears04:27
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Pegasos989How do I edit read only files? Now that I can't login asa root, I'll propably need to so some sudo commands, but dunno which04:27
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trappistPegasos989: sudo $EDITOR filename04:27
Plus-V-duckyneedvpn, edit /etc/network/interfaces (or use the desktop admin tools)04:27
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Pegasos989trappist, okay, thanks04:28
kandoora_if i'm gonna download a program from sourceforge should i download .bz2 or .deb04:28
Dasnipa`nano rules04:28
Plus-V-duckyeth0 dhcp04:28
Plus-V-duckyauto eth004:28
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Plus-V-ducky(for example)04:28
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: sorry... some of the options in the admistration menu are opening up... like screen resolution preferences04:28
Plus-V-duckyman /etc/network/interfaces has detailed examples04:28
trappistkandoora_: odds are the deb is made for debian.  unless it's statically compiled I'd go with the tarball.04:28
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Plus-V-duckyDasnipa`, nano can corrupt files04:29
ceejhey04:29
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needvpnPlus-V-ducky: Thanks04:29
kandoora_trappist, can u refresh my memory, what are the steps of compiling tarball04:29
indigirl1IRCMonkey999, what version ubuntu did you install (do you know)?04:29
tidihow to change display setting on ubuntu 5.1 locked on 640x480?04:29
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IRCMonkey999ubuntu 5.1004:29
ceejis there anyway to change permissions on another partition if it say used for windows?04:29
trappistkandoora_: depends on what's in the tarball, but generally ./configure && make && make install04:29
linlinhi, i need to use apt-get on a proxy, where do i set this up04:29
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: ubuntu 5.1004:29
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indigirl1IRCMonkey999, okay. restart maybe. unlikely to help though04:30
kandoora_trappist, thanx a million04:30
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, guess what you were right :D, the text just fly by fast04:30
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indigirl1IRCMonkey999, also try the command line instead of menu04:30
tidiany help friends04:30
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: thanx ...04:30
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Absenthwhat is the command to re-sync the system clock with an NTP server?04:30
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Plus-V-duckytidi, try Ctrl+/- on the numeric keypad04:30
Matrice64Plus-V-ducky, thanks for the tip, I'll have to install breezy when I get back from my appointment :)04:31
ceejis there anyway to change permissions on another partition? sudo chmod 777 /dir dosn't seem to change the permissions04:31
tidithanks04:31
Plus-V-duckytidi if you can't switch video modes that way, look in... me cudgels his birdbrain04:31
Plus-V-duckytidi did it work?04:31
tidinot at that computer04:31
tidithanks duck04:31
Dasnipa`did the video drivers take properly?04:31
tidii am nubb04:31
tidimy drivers loaded ok04:32
Plus-V-duckytidi yo still need to set the dfaault, are you using Xorg or XFree86 brand of X11?04:32
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tidixfree8604:33
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trappistceej: you need to mount the partition with umask=000004:33
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Plus-V-duckyMatrice64, that's gratifying to know thanks for telling us.  (the big hint was that the rest of the CD was OK)04:33
trappistceej: but that's an exceedingly permissive umask and I don't recommend it04:33
tidii go try thanks ducky04:33
Plus-V-duckytidi try xfree86config04:34
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ceejtrappist: k well thanks for the help04:34
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blizzkidtrappist: belgian by any chance?04:34
tidilater04:34
Plus-V-duckyor you can do it with debconf or dpkg sometimes (X11R6.3 ?)04:35
ClayGwhat is a "toast compatible mpg"?04:35
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bigfoot1i tried xkill-ing vlc media player but it's still alive. help04:36
Pegasos989I _HATE_ terminal text editors. :((( How do I save a file that I have open in vim04:36
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blizzkidPegasos989, wq04:36
AbsenthPegasos989,  esc, :, wq    enter04:37
Plus-V-duckytrappist, sudo chmod 11777,Rf /04:37
Plus-V-duckymuahahaha04:37
Pegasos989thx04:37
AbsenthPegasos989,  or esc, shift+zz04:37
UeuecoyotlPegasos989, why don't you use pico then? That's easy04:37
trappistblizzkid: no, I just like belgian beer :)04:37
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blizzkidPegasos989, instead of vim type gedit if you don't like terminal editors04:38
AbsenthUeuecoyotl, nano is the "free" version of pico, and is included in the default install :)04:38
sexcopter8000mhi, i want to save a webpage for archiving purposes, and i tried file -> save page as... in firefox and the resulting page doesn't look right at all, is there a better programme for this purpose?04:38
sexcopter8000meven a pdf or similar output is fine, doesn't have to be html04:38
blizzkidsexcopter8000m, try wget04:38
Plus-V-duckybigfoot1, do [console] :$ ps -C [command_name_of _vlc]  |kill -904:38
trappistsexcopter8000m: print to file04:39
UeuecoyotlAbsenth, good to know, thanks :)04:39
sexcopter8000mblizzkid, how do you use wget for webpages? i only know how to use wget to get files from a url04:39
ClayGhmm this pHo kid runs the vcdgear forums04:39
ClayGhe also <i think> runs the vcdquality ones04:39
blizzkidsexcopter8000m, just wget url04:39
Pegasos989thanks blizz04:39
Absenthdoes anyone remember what the search & replace option in vim is?  It's something like :s% oldstuff newstuff     but I can't remember the exact syntax04:39
trappistsexcopter8000m: man wget.  there are lots of options depending on how you want to do it04:39
Plus-V-ducky# whatis Linux kung Fu04:39
trappistblizzkid: wget will only get the single file, no images etc. unless you use the appropriate options04:39
trappistPlus-V-ducky: ?04:40
navaronesexcopter> you may want to try extensions in firefox...Tools/Extensions/get more extensions  and look at the download section04:40
blizzkidtrappist: I assume he can read, so: man wget ;-)04:40
sexcopter8000mah, trappist that print to file worked, thanks04:40
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bigfoot1how do i know the command name of vlc?04:40
kandoora_is there a program which can open .eps files without having to download ghost script04:40
Plus-V-duckyIf you had a fork, would the other group register linuxtaichi.org, trappist?04:40
Plus-V-ducky;-D04:40
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trappistPlus-V-ducky: linuxaikido.org preferably :)04:41
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Plus-V-duckylinuxaikido.jp perhaps04:41
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navaronesexcopter...Flashgot extension may suit your purposes04:41
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Plus-V-duckyFQD: northern|southern.temples.shaolinux.org04:42
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ClayGFlashgot is great, if there was a nix download manager worthy it would be better04:42
ClayGWe need a FlashGET04:42
navaronesexcopter> I just gaw magpie...and i think is the one actually04:43
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navaronefirefox extenisions are...ummm...extenisiove04:43
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AbsenthDoes anyone know the syntax in vim to search for all instances of a string, and replace it with another string?04:43
trappistAbsenth: :%s/string1/string2/g04:44
Absenthtrappist, that's where I was screwing up....  no spaces :)  thanks.04:44
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kandoora_if i've just installed ubuntu what files do i need to compile04:44
kandoora_the basic ones04:44
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Plus-V-duckytrappist, hmmm... nice http://freshmeat.net/projects/ipkungfu/04:45
kentkandoora_, build-essential04:45
trappistkandoora_: you don't need to compile anything unless there's a something you need and there's no package for it04:45
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trappistidiot: sudo lsof | grep hci_usb04:45
devilz_Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C04:46
devilz_Message: device: default04:46
devilz_i'm trying to open xmms and i get this msg04:46
idiotNothing came up trappist.04:46
trappistdevilz_: that's not a problem04:46
Plus-V-duckytrappist, shouldn't that be uhci (for VIA USB chipsets)?04:46
idiotbut I need this file to be unused so I can use VMware =/.04:46
kandoora_trappist, well there's no package for spalah flash04:46
idiotand VMWARe says its in use.04:46
trappistdevilz_: export LOCALE=C if you like04:46
kandoora_trappist, it's a program to make flash files04:46
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Plus-V-duckyerr, nm -- grep uses regexp and will find a text embedded string  -- sorry04:47
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kandoora_kent, thanks04:47
devilz_trappist, well i installed xmms, but i cant set volume to down or up04:48
devilz_so its always so loud04:48
devilz_but when i try watching movies mplayer its ok04:48
devilz_so i tought maybe this error might be the problem04:49
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adieyhellooo gengggg04:49
adieyapo khabarrrr04:49
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trappistdevilz_: you might need to modify xmms's output to esound04:49
devilz_how?04:49
trappistit's in the preferences somewhere04:50
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navaronedevilz> right click the xmms gui and chose options04:50
adieytak tidur lagi ker???????????04:50
adieymu duk wat gapooooo04:50
ChousukeEnglish.04:50
j813total linux newb here no programming knowlege, when I'm trying to install somthing, instructions says ./configure should that install it?04:50
devilz_navarone, yes04:50
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Chousuke:P04:50
devilz_i know04:50
devilz_but what to do04:50
devilz_;)04:51
trappistj813: ./configure then make then sudo make install04:51
Chousukej813: why are you trying to compile?04:51
navaronedevilz> i have output set at oss plugin...i use sb live 24bit soundcard04:51
Chousukewhat software?04:51
sally_my second hard drive, hdb, has ez-drive on it, and in debian I could mount it by adding hdb=remap to the kernel options on boot and then mounting it as usual, but in ubuntu when I try to mount it I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, does anyone know how to fix this04:51
j813chop xine etc.04:51
Chousukej813: erm, sudo apt-get install xine?04:51
devilz_navarone, well by default i have oss too04:51
j813Chou i mean, no idea what ur talkin bout04:52
navaronesally> i think ezdrive is used to allow old bioses to see large drives...other than that I cannot offer any real option...other than flashing bios and possibly formatting...<s>04:52
j813sorry04:52
Chousuke!apt04:52
ubotusomebody said apt was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto04:52
Plus-V-duckytrappist,  bash-cheat-sheet  <3  <3  <304:52
Plus-V-ducky=oD04:52
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=== Absenth cheers, long live tcsh
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j813Chou I'm tootally new with Linux04:53
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Toranhow can I use "du" to only show stuff above a certain size?04:54
devilz_hm04:54
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devilz_navarone, when i put my scroler to 0%04:54
devilz_its working then04:54
sally_navarone, yeah I had to use it because my hard drive is 160gb and I read that if I didnt use it I would only be able to use 137 gb or something...04:54
devilz_well its muted04:54
devilz_:)04:54
trappistToran: I use | grep M, for example, to help at least a little04:54
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Plus-V-ducky"Are you a spambot? If so, Click Here <bogus HREF> for an endless supply of bogus email addresses."   -- LOL04:55
Toranthat would help, I guess, kind of a kluge though04:55
davedpreferred paste site?04:55
davednm, just saw topc04:55
ice9how do I upgrade to ubuntu 6404:55
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Plus-V-duckytrappist who's your webmin? (I want their autograph)04:55
trappistPlus-V-ducky: me :)04:55
Plus-V-duckyFulltime business for you?04:56
trappistnah.04:56
ice9anyone04:56
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navaronesally> you can check the bios version you have at boot and try to find newer version. Once you update bios (it's easier than you think) you can possibly wipe the drive (if that's an option) and format and reinstall if it to be more than a storage drive04:56
davedok.. i have an onboard sound card on my mobo, and an sb live pci... i just disabled the onboard sound because i was having weirdness with it and want to only use the sb live.. after i did that, when i run aplay, i get the error seen here04:56
davedhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/491604:56
davedhow can i "reset" my alsa settings04:56
davedit's looking for card 1 which doesnt exist04:56
Plus-V-duckyheh -- I though 'lartc' stood for lart-cluster (bomb) at 1st04:57
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AbsenthPlus-V-ducky,  I actually have a Lart hanging over my desk :)04:57
devilz_hm its working now04:57
sally_navarone, that's my plan actually, but I need to access the drive and copy the stuff off of it first04:58
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=== Absenth has a RITA somewhere as well.
navaronesally> I just put in new 250 gigger and had same prob. Had to load a ddo to let bios see full size. That interferred with boot process so I deleted all aprtions and, after updating bios, set up drive again with partions and enough unused space for ubuntu04:58
devilz_i guess i have alsa04:58
sally_navarone, whats ddo04:58
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Plus-V-duckyAbsenth, how can that be, since a lart is an abstraction?04:58
adiey   04:58
devilz_btw how can i change keyboard to slovenian04:58
blizzkidadiey, english please?04:59
AbsenthPlus-V-ducky,  l user, attitude, readjustment , "TOOL"....  :)  mine is specifically a foam cluebat.04:59
Plus-V-duckyoooh, Arabic -- this kubuntu certainly goes nuts with UTF-8 and ISO8859 charsets04:59
navaronesally> the setup cd for the new drive possibly came with software that would let you copy a parition to new drive...check out cd and manufacturers web site. I have wd drive and it used Data Lifeguard to do task04:59
devilz_i went system -> preferences-> keyboard04:59
Toranthat arabic looks really cool04:59
devilz_and added slovenian04:59
devilz_but still not working04:59
trappistAbsenth: mine is a +5 Cluebat of Enlightenment04:59
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Absenthtrappist,  heh.04:59
navaronesally>a  ddo is bios workaround that's entered into mbr and allows old bios to see large drive size04:59
Absenthtrappist,  I wouldn't want them too enlightened.04:59
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adiey   05:00
navaroneadiey> r u okay?05:00
Plus-V-duckyAbsenth, ooohh (I always think of bash scripts that do things like # finger | rm -rf ~/../$?)05:00
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navaronetoran> yeah but reaaaally small05:02
adieyim ok05:02
adiey   05:02
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adieyok05:02
adieyenglish right now05:02
adieynavarone05:02
adieyhow are u?05:02
adieyblizz kid05:02
adieyhiiii05:02
navaroneI am good adiey...u?05:02
adieyfine05:02
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adieyasl u navarone?05:02
ToranHehe05:03
Happuffeel good!05:03
adieyheheheheh05:03
adieyi feeelll niceee05:03
adieylike sugar n spiceeee05:03
_jasonadiey, #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to chat, try to keep this channel support related05:03
adieyyeahhh05:03
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navaroneadiey...i don't do asl...thanks05:04
adieyoic05:04
adieysoryyy05:04
adieyhehe05:04
navaronenp05:04
adieyi have a problem regarding this ubuntu05:05
ICE9anyone know how to upgrade to 64 bit ubuntu ?05:05
adieydoes it support macromedia?05:05
adiey????05:05
_jasonadiey, you can get flash05:05
adieyanybody?05:05
mark__when i play dvd's I see strange horizontal marks in both totem-xine and vlc, is this an interlacing problem or something else?05:05
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navaronemacaromedia plugin?05:05
adieyi want such as dreamweaver05:05
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adieymacromedia mx packages05:06
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adieyanybody?05:06
trappistsome of them will work in wine05:06
mark__i've tried different deinterlace modes and none seem to fix it05:06
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navaroneadiey> i don't think macromedia has ported anyhting to linux...:/05:06
Absenthadiey, if you own Macromedia MX, you can use wine, or Crossover office (www.codeweavers.com) to install them on linux.05:06
adieyand one more problem05:06
trappistnavarone: except flash05:06
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Absenthadiey,  else,  a package called nvu allows you to created websites in a dreamweaver like fashion.05:07
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adieywhy i cant play mp3 in a list of collection?05:07
server_newbiecan someone point me to a good howto for ftp overssh? I have openssh & proftpd on the server and ws_ftp & putty on the client. I can't get it up and running. Thanks05:07
PhoulHow do i intall a .deb i totaly forgot05:07
adieysuch as winamp?05:07
Absenthtell adiey about mp305:07
_jasonPhoul, dpkg -i file.deb05:07
ufishhi, i have a problem... when installing linux with a burned CD imagem, he runs, i put the keyboard language but than he says that can't mount CD-ROM05:07
=== Absenth hopes that worked.
adieyjust have totem05:07
trappistserver_newbie: sftp05:08
adieyanybody05:08
navaroneadiey> install xmss05:08
adieyhehehehe05:08
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adieyxmms?05:08
adieywhere i can get it?05:08
Absenthadiey didn't ubotu send you a message?05:08
navaroneSynaptic05:08
Ueuecoyotladiey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:08
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Absenth!tell adiey about mp305:08
Absenththere we go.05:09
adieyi have try from synactic packages05:09
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navaronesally> if you chose to redo drive after bios you may also want to consider making a fat32 partion to ease transfer of files from linux to windows...if you need05:09
MahatschmalHallo world05:09
navaroneadiey>yes05:10
adieynavarone05:11
Plus-V-duckytrappist, how do you afford the bandwidth?  j00 go75 t3h 3Y3-E55-P33 sP0|\|Z0r?05:11
navaroneyes?05:11
adieyso05:11
adieyi can get it from synactic?05:11
trappistPlus-V-ducky: I don't have that fat a pipe05:11
navaroneadiey> yes05:11
adieymy ubuntu is gnome05:11
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adieyis there any ubuntu with kde?05:12
navaroneadiey> that doesn't amtter for xmss05:12
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navaroneadiey kubuntu05:12
Plus-V-duckyI *really* hope that's not an intentional pun05:12
linuxboyadiey: yes, kubuntu05:12
adieyoic05:12
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adieythank05:12
ufishcan somebody help me05:12
ufishhi, i have a problem..when i'm installing linux with a burned CD imagem, he runs, i put the keyboard language but than he says that can't mount CD-ROM05:12
Absenthtrappist,  what site is it that Plus-V-ducky  likes so much?05:12
trappistlinuxkungfu.org05:13
Absenthtrappist,  I can't help it, I'm nosey.05:13
trappistit's not much to be proud of :)05:13
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dduckoufish, do you have 2 cd rom drives?05:13
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Bob332Hey guys05:13
adieynavarone....i have install the xmms05:13
Absenthtrappist, looks great05:13
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Bob332is there a server mode i can run this in, simular to a stock debian system?05:13
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adieybut not functioning05:13
adieylike hanggg05:14
j813guys what's the differences of Edubuntu, Kubuntu & the reg Ubuntu?05:14
Absenthtrappist,  (has a fat pipe :)  http://www.darksidepraetorians.com/absenth/sweet.GIF05:14
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adieyit cant be close05:14
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adieynavarone05:14
adieyhelp me05:14
trappistAbsenth: yeah I'll take that pipe05:14
Absenthj813,  ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce, edubuntu = an LTSP based distro.05:15
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adieyanyone05:15
adieyplz05:15
Absenthtrappist,  the upload test was nerfed, as the file was only ~ 3mb.  it took just over a second to upload the whole thing.  It's 10mb/s full duplex.05:15
adieyi buntu about ubuntu xmms05:15
Absenthadiey, Patience.05:15
tritiumadiey, please don't use the enter key for punctuation05:15
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adieytritium ok...05:16
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Plus-V-duckyj00 go7z |o7s of the cL4$$ikz!05:16
adieykubuntu tentang cinta ini05:16
adieyku rasa sungguh sedih dan kecewa dengan ubuntu05:17
Urthmoverquestion:  what is the easy way to install the Xvid codecs on breezy?05:17
AstxistUrthmover, I believe gstreamer has an xvid package05:17
tritiumadiey, English please05:17
Urthmoverok sweet ast05:17
Urthmoverthx05:17
adieyok05:17
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adieyok05:18
Urthmovercan I find a codec so that it will play through scrotum?05:18
adieyi go first05:18
adieyu go second05:18
adieycow sing chiiii05:18
UrthmoverI mean totem05:18
adieybye05:18
Urthmover:-)05:18
navaroneUrthmover> sounds painful...;)05:18
adieytake careeee05:18
adieyheheheheh05:18
Plus-V-duckyLOL echo "nothing to see here" > ~/htdocs/index.html05:18
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AstxistUrthmover, gstreamer0.8-xvid is the one you're after05:18
Plus-V-duckyAbsenth,05:18
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Astxistwell should be the one05:19
AbsenthPlus-V-ducky,  yeah?05:19
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Urthmoveroh I get it . ....... apt-get install g-streamer...05:19
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Plus-V-duckylocate:nothing+to+see+here05:19
Astxistdon't forget sudo05:19
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Plus-V-duckyno hits!05:19
keyesdoes anyone have a tip to increase the speed of eclipse?05:19
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keyesit's very slloooowwwww05:19
PhoulIt says i have a broken package but how do i find it?05:19
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Plus-V-ducky(Inet search)05:19
keyes(and buggy)05:20
Urthmoversweet Ast you rock05:20
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Plus-V-duckyironically enough05:20
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Phoulanyone?05:20
pshcatdoes anyone have an idea how i can test my samba server?05:20
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AbsenthPlus-V-ducky, heh.....  www.jdrweb.com (one of the servers/services I manage)05:20
pshcati've installed samba from sources and started it, but no idea how to test it now05:20
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Plus-V-duckyAstxist, did you feel the Urthmove?05:20
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PhoulCan somone tell me how i can remove a broken package?05:20
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ICE9I got a ? I want to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 how do I do that05:21
K_DallasPhoul, if you use synaptic it has it in its menu05:21
AbsenthPhoul,  sudo apt-get remove packagename05:21
tritiumPhoul, why do you think it's broken?05:21
PhoulIt says i have 1 broken package and i need to remove it before i can do anything05:21
devilz_btw if have 512ram ddr how much swap do i need to have05:21
K_DallasAbsenth, if my memory helps there is an option for apt-get to force the removie05:21
tritiumPhoul, you might also want to use the --purge option05:21
Phoulpurge?05:22
tritiumwith apt-get05:22
K_Dallasthat is it05:22
Urthmovershouldn't I be able to watch Xvid movies on a PIII800 with 512 ram?05:22
Urthmoverit's not full speed05:22
Phoulapt-get --purge?05:22
PhoulWhat does that do05:22
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tritiumPhoul, apt-get remove --purge <packagename>05:22
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gfishhello05:22
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PhoulI dont know the package name05:22
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gfishhow do i burn audio cds05:22
PhoulIm guessing its skype05:22
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K_Dallasgfish, you could try k3b05:23
CosmoDadcan I have both Blackdown's and SUN's implementation of java (re/sdk) installed at the same time?05:23
PhoulIs there anyway to just view broken links?05:23
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gfishK_Dallas. does this actually work and do u use it urself05:24
PhoulHello?05:24
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PhoulIs it possible to view all broken packages?05:24
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Plus-V-duckyAbsenth, I'd boil it down or put more whitespace (CRtn) or bullet it or something, although the graphics and loadtimes kicka55 (remember the attentions span of the typical vhost customer -- heh)05:24
MenZa`yays05:24
CosmoDadPhoul: you can do that with aptitude05:24
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MenZa`my ubuntu shipit cds are at the postoffice :)05:24
Phoulaptitude05:24
ICE9does anyone know how to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit  ?05:25
sabmannfor openoffice pure 2.0 add deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./ to repos05:25
ICE9I really need some assistance05:25
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trappistICE9: it's a whole new operating system.  you reinstall.05:25
ICE9you can't upgrade at all05:25
wickedpuppyICE9, hardware or software ?05:25
K_Dallasgfish, k3b is supposedly one of the best and yes it works05:25
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Plus-V-ducky(pretty darn good, though overall)05:25
ICE9software05:25
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wickedpuppyICE9, software then trappist's advice will do :P05:26
Hali_303hi05:26
AbsenthPlus-V-ducky, lucky for me, I just run the servers.  our web developer builds the stuff I host.  (10mb/s really helps the load times :)05:26
wickedpuppyk3b is one of the best ... not supposedly05:26
ICE9ok05:26
trappistk3b does pretty much rock05:26
wickedpuppyi rate it as high as nero unlimited05:27
ICE9so just download the iso for 64 bit verision then05:27
Plus-V-duckyheh, bounhce some ICMP echo req off of arnducky.net05:27
Hali_303i'm trying to setup remote X applications. however, if I run a xev -display localhost:0 on the machine I'm running X on, it says xev:  unable to open display 'localhost:0'05:27
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Hali_303any hints?05:27
trappistwickedpuppy: I was about to say I like it better than nero05:27
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HansZwolleHali_303, yes, something met export display05:27
trappistHali_303: try just :005:27
ICE9just download the 64 bit version then05:27
HansZwolleI will search @ google now05:27
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ICE9as a iso05:27
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Plus-V-ducky100 mbit/s to dual SONET rings (oc-12) with peering05:27
Daywalkeranybody installed a star sp 200 printer on ubuntu?05:28
joe_alfis there a world clock software on ubuntu05:28
clifford_Hi guys. Is there any way to make ubuntu/gnome behave like other windowmanagers where you can resize the window using alt-right mouse button?05:28
Hali_303HansZwolle, trappist: :0 works, but localhost:0 doesnt05:28
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ICE9xfce has a world clock05:28
AbsenthPlus-V-ducky, that probibly costs a bit more then our monthly colo :)05:28
Plus-V-duckyjoe_alf, yep,a nd guesss waht it's called05:28
HansZwolleah ok05:28
Plus-V-duckyAbsenth newp, i *guarantee* not05:28
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Plus-V-duckyUni Buddy is the BoFH/BMFH05:29
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Astxistpshcat, er I guess you'd try using it :)05:29
Absenthit would cost us more :)  we're at $1300 a month, including a 10mb/s full duplex uplink, and 40U of rackspace at nFrame.com05:29
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joe_alfICE9, what is the name of the program05:29
wickedpuppyAbsenth, thats .. more than what most people earn in one year ...05:30
Plus-V-duckyThat and it's only a vhost account with a bandwidth limit -- but for the tiny bytes I transfer, It's *blindingly* fast05:30
Daywalkeranybody installed a star sp 200 printer on ubuntu?05:30
joe_alfICE9, i have xfce installed05:30
ICE9I love it05:30
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ICE9but now I have to install 64 bit version05:31
ICE9cause I can't get my drivers with this board05:31
Plus-V-duckyjoe_alf, try apt-get install worldclock05:31
ICE9sucks05:31
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Absenthwickedpuppy,  I don't think I could afford my house if I only made $1300 a month.  but I agree it's not cheap.05:31
TeddHey, guys.05:31
TeddBack.05:31
TeddAnd not on Ubuntu :|05:31
TeddIt gave me an error during the install05:31
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Tedd"Debootstrap program exited with error (return value 1)05:32
TeddAnd then after pressing continue immediately I got "Base system installation into /target/ failed".05:32
wickedpuppyAbsenth, there are always bank loans ....05:32
TeddCan anybody  help me out?05:32
ClayGanyone know if tovid can hand .bins (that containt svcd's)05:32
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joe_alfPlus-V-ducky, thanks05:33
trappistClayG: I use bchunker to convert bin/cue files to .iso05:33
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ClayGthis .bin contains a movie05:33
TeddAny ideas?05:33
Absenthdoes anyone know of a soft SIP phone client package in ubuntu?05:33
ClayGIn windows i use vcdgear to convert it to it's .mpg equiv05:33
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ClayGin nix i have vcdgear but cannot get it to work05:33
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ClayGcan bchunker handle svcd/vcds?05:34
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TeddAnybody? :\05:34
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ICE9make a cue05:34
ICE9for your bin05:34
ICE9then burn it05:34
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ClayGI did that05:35
ClayGI have it on disk as well now05:35
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tritium!enter05:35
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!05:35
ICE9so whats wrong then05:35
ClayGwell svcd dont play on all dvd players05:35
trappistClayG: mount the iso loopback and see what's on it05:35
ClayGI want to convert it to true dvd format05:35
ICE9ture05:35
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ICE9ahh05:35
ClayGin windows using tmpgenc05:35
ICE9blah05:36
ClayGI heard tovid is supposed to be the sht05:36
TeddGerrrr.05:36
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ICE9are using windows based05:36
TeddIt is COLD in here. Jesus.05:36
ICE9right05:36
ClayGno05:36
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andre80will ubuntu release the whole packages like debian ?05:36
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ClayGI have experience with the windows based programs, I'm trying to find nix equiv's so i can severe my MS ties05:36
ICE9there are apps out there that convert svcd to dvd05:36
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TeddCan anybody help me at all?05:37
ICE9yeah its hard05:37
ClayGwell tovid wont convert a straight bin to dvd but that is exspected05:37
ICE9but there out there05:37
ClayGnormally you have to convert the bin to straight up .mpg05:37
ICE9yep05:37
ICE9or avi05:37
ICE9you could do that05:37
ClayGburned on disk creates a filestructure05:37
tritium!tell ICE9 about enter05:37
ClayGand you can't just pull it off, because it(the .mpg) doens't really exist05:37
GkaneHow to load a kernel (grub-manager)05:37
ICE9when did i use the enter key ?05:38
ClayGi have the software, vcdgear for nix. On 'doze it's great, is essential. I juist can't figure the syntax out05:38
gfishK3b uses cdrdao to actually write CDs.05:38
gfishSolution: Install the cdrdao package. now what?05:38
ICE9tritium05:38
tritiumICE9, too often05:38
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ICE9can you upgrad 64 bit version from a 32 bit version or no05:39
mjrno05:39
ICE9damn05:39
gfishK3b uses cdrdao to actually write CDs.05:39
gfishSolution: Install the cdrdao package. what do i do now05:39
ICE9gfish what are you trying to do05:40
gfishuse k3b05:40
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TeddCan anybody help me at all?05:40
ICE9its easy05:40
gfishICE9. use k3b05:40
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Absenthtedd, depends, what's the question05:40
ICE9yes05:40
ICE9what are you trying to burn05:40
gfishnothing05:40
blankyhow can I disable the system beep, it beeps the heck out of everything05:40
TeddWell, during the install I got "Debootstrap program exited with error (return value 1)05:40
ICE9umm ok05:41
gfishICE9, it wants me to install cdrdao05:41
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TeddAnd after pressing enter immediately I got "Base system installation into /target/ failed."05:41
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brosiozhow could i rotate to print orizzontaly with openoffice writer ?05:41
ICE9so installed it05:41
gfishICE9, how05:41
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gfishICE9, terminal05:41
ICE9apt-cache cdradao05:42
ICE9first05:42
TeddAny idea, Absenth?05:42
ICE9to see what you need05:42
ICE9then apt-get install cdradao05:42
JRlinuxTo fix the boot menu so that I could still go to the OS that installing Ubuntu wiped out--  I added lines to ubuntu's menu.lst ... It worked.  Now that I am in that "other" linux, do I need to copy over the menu.lst from grup and replace the old one in this one to avoid the menu being written over by this linux?05:42
AbsenthTedd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10423&page=105:42
GerrathIf you need to install the latest nvidia drivers from the nvidia site what is the best way to do it in Ubuntu?05:42
Absenthtedd, you might find some useful information there.05:42
ICE9go to the nvidia site05:42
tritiumGerrath, don't.  use the ubuntu packages05:42
gfishICE9, ok thanks but dont i add sudo infront of them05:42
ICE9yes05:42
blanky!nvidia05:42
JRlinuxfrom Ubuntu, I mean...05:42
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:42
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ICE9if not in root05:42
AbsenthTedd,  sounds like you might need to re-download the ISO, and burn it again.05:42
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Gerrathtritium, I don't believe the Ubuntu ones are the latest though.05:43
blankyGerrath: frickin listen to ubotu05:43
blanky!nvidia05:43
blankyoh05:43
blankywhat do you want then05:43
tritiumGerrath, the ones in breezy should be fairly recent, and they have the advantage of being under package management05:44
blankyanyone have an idea on how to disable system BEEP/ALARM05:44
Absenthblanky,  low tech solution is a wirecutter to the speaker lead :)05:44
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gfishICE9, with the first i get invalid05:44
JRlinuxICE9 OK, I will replace this menu.lst with the one from Ubuntu which I fixed... Or was that "yes" for me?05:44
ice9whats the nvidia site again05:44
TeddAbsenth: Thanks a lot, I'll try this out.05:45
mjrblanky, in X, xset -b05:45
blankyAbsenth: if it was that I'd just pull it out :P05:45
blankymjr: in x?05:45
Astxistblanky, System - Preferances - Sound05:45
blankyokay05:45
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Astxistblanky, Goto the System Bell tab05:45
TeddSo all I have to do is select "format the drive" as the method.05:45
AbsenthTedd,  good luck.05:45
TeddThanks.05:45
ubuntuHello?05:45
ice9nvidia link for ubuntu  ?05:45
Taa5iAny idea why I may be unable to umount /dev/md0 because device is busy?  fuser reports no attached processes, and I have no prompts to that wd05:45
ice9sorry05:45
TeddThanks for all your help, bud. Have a good one.05:45
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Gerrathheres the deal, I have a motherboard that is new and I have spoken with an Nvidia developer who told me that the drivers will be released either the end of this month or the beginning of next and my board will be supported I just want to be prepared to install everything.05:45
Astxistblanky, should find what you're after there :)05:45
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daxxarTaa5i, try lsof /dev/md0?05:45
blankythanks!05:45
blankythat thing was about to make me go emo and cut myself05:45
ICE9what is the nvidia link again05:46
_jasonubotu, tell ICE9  about nvidia05:46
ICE9thank you05:46
Taa5idaxxar: No results from there, either.05:46
daxxarHm.05:46
Ophiocusinteresting fact, after a prolonged period using amule my box looses all connectivity, only rebooting can i use internet again,. any thoughs on that?05:46
Plus-V-ducky'emo'?05:46
Astxistblanky, np just don't disable the sound server on the general tab or you'll be wondering why some aps don't have sound :)05:46
daxxarTried lazy unmounting, then? (=05:46
blankylol k05:46
Gerrathwill the new nvidia drivers get put onto the back-ports when they are released or will I have to either install manually or wait for the next Ubuntu release?05:46
Taa5idaxxar: Beg pardon?05:46
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daxxarTaa5i, -l. "Detach the filesystem from the filesystem hierarchy now, and cleanup all references to the filesystem as soon as it is not busy anymore.  (Requires kernel 2.4.11 or later.)"05:47
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daxxarPlus-V-ducky, "emotional". :-)05:48
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Taa5idaxxar: Thank you, that did it.05:48
Taa5iWish I knew why it did things like that, though.05:48
gfishice9, i have done it thanks05:48
blankyis there a program like spacemonger that tells me what apps are taking up the most space etc.05:48
Plus-V-duckydaxxar, you wouldn't want anyone to mistake you for human after all... heh05:49
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fletch33if someone has a second i am having problems with freenx. if you could look at this at tell me what u think. htpp://pastebin.ca/3062005:49
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daxxarPlus-V-ducky, I was just explaining the abbreviation, if you didn't know what it meant.05:49
fletch33i really need to get this working05:49
Plus-V-duckydaxxar, yep05:49
daxxarUnless you were trying to make a point out of someone using it to describe the act of being overly emotional.05:49
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fletch33i have my client workiing but i cant figure out the server part05:49
cocoxhi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: debe especificar el tipo de sistema de ficheros" can anybody help me plz ?05:49
daxxarxshu, I'm sorry? :)05:50
davedok.. i have an onboard sound card on my mobo, and an sb live pci... i just disabled the onboard sound because i was having weirdness with it and want to only use the sb live.. after i did that, when i run aplay, i get the error seen here05:50
davedhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/491605:50
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davedhow can i "reset" my alsa settings05:50
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Rawplayerdo05:50
Plus-V-duckyheh, daxxar my remark should have been directed at blanky05:51
j813Guys how can I check if my ISO download is OK, how to use the MD5SUMS? Am using Windows at this moment.05:51
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daxxarPlus-V-ducky, that was what I assumed. :)05:51
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daxxarj813, get the md5sums.exe from http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/05:52
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felbionhuhu05:52
daxxarj813, then drag'n'drop your iso-file onto the EXE, and compare the output with that which is from the FTP. :)05:53
fletch33ok well i will try back later i guess because i am lost and really really need this to work and i have searched every where else05:53
blankyPlus-V-ducky, wha't the program called05:53
j813daxxar thanks05:53
Plus-V-duckySorry, blanky.  I must've missed your original question.  Program to do what?05:54
cocoxhi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: debe especificar el tipo de sistema de ficheros" can anybody help me plz ?05:54
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K_DallasHi guys! Q: pon dsl-provider works except if an application is idling the connection drops _just_ for that application. How can i make it stay up no matter the activity? (irc client doesnt disconnect as it is active) thanks05:54
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blankyPlus-V-ducky, I thought you were talking to me. A program that tells you what apps/things take up how much space from your HD, like spacemonger05:55
K_DallasHi guys! Q: pon dsl-provider works except if an application is idling the connection drops _just_ for that application. How can i make it stay up no matter the activity? (irc client doesnt disconnect as it is active) thanks05:55
daxxarK_Dallas, that could be your routers time-out of TCP-connections, if you have one?05:55
K_Dallasdaxxar, with router i am all right05:56
K_Dallasthis is directly into the modem05:56
daxxarNot sure then. It could be your ISP doing it?05:56
K_Dallasdoesnt happen on windows and still other applications work fine if they are not idle05:56
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K_Dallasthe connection drops selectively05:56
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quantumhi. i got a problem with my aureon and totem. just how do i get 5.1 audio from a shoutcast stream? the speaker-test works fine, but it seems that the center channel produces no audio when playing a stream? i got a aureon 5.1 fun card + zalman theatre 6 surround speakers. similar setup anyone?05:57
quantumi have selected 5.1 from totem preferences but still..05:58
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darkheartAnyone have experience with Ubuntu, PHP and Pear?05:59
grgcsmci have a question05:59
grgcsmci just downloaded fceu from synaptic05:59
grgcsmchow do i open it?05:59
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cocoxhi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: you must specify the kind of system files" can anybody help me plz ?06:00
quantumgrgcsmc if installed from synaptic, it should run from the command line panel item. or, usr/bin contains your executables06:00
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grgcsmcso, if i just click on a rom, it should open?06:01
quantumwow you cant believe the audio quality i got =)06:01
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Hoxzerdoesn't fat32 partition support over 4GB files?06:02
quantum5.1 sound from a zalman theatre 6 and aureon fun pci rocks at a low price..06:02
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cocoxhow can i see in whish format is my floppy disk ??????06:03
quantumhoxzer you could think that the limit for the partition size would allow more06:03
blizzkidHoxzer, no it doesn't06:03
quantumwrong.06:03
Hoxzer:D06:03
GoodSoftWhat package should I reconfigure to change list of available video modes for X server?06:03
grgcsmchow do i use x server?06:03
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maneyOkay, bug #10293 appears to describe the problem, so it's known; there's at least hope that Firefox will resolve it in time for Dapper, so it should get fixed eventually; but is there any way to make it work in Breezy?  (the prefiltering doesn't work unless I give up using the PPD that lets me easily print duplex, etc.)06:04
Pegasos989Hmmh. How can I turn on/off if I want my computer to response to ping or not?06:04
BeachBuddhaQuestion - just d/l'd ubuntu live cd and burned it, but rebooting with it in the drive still brings me into my windowS instead.  Any help?06:04
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grgcsmcget into bios06:04
jbroomeBeachBuddha: check your BIOS to make sure it's set to boot off cd first06:04
GoodSoftWhat package should I reconfigure to change list of available video modes for X server?06:04
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grgcsmcfind the area where u can change the boot priority06:05
BeachBuddhaI did that grg and jbroome06:05
BeachBuddha:)06:05
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BeachBuddhano jou06:05
iapx8088maciao06:05
BeachBuddhajoy even06:05
grgcsmcdid u save settings?06:05
BeachBuddhaf10'd outta there06:05
blankywhat's the name of the glade editor, where you can draw out the windows and stuff06:05
jbroomeyou sure it's a good burn?06:05
iapx8088sorry. I have a breezy and I found out I have rsync out of the box. is that normal?06:05
grgcsmcdid u burn the iso image?06:05
blankyk3b06:05
HoxzerISO Is big in finnish06:06
iapx8088I don't remember having it on hoary.06:06
_jasonGoodSoft, xserver-xorg?06:06
toresnany problems running ubuntu along with winxp? Does ubuntu automatically create a boot menu (like FreeBSD does)?06:06
BeachBuddhait runs ok from the my computer window - shows me ubuntu and gaim n open office06:06
blankywhat's the name of the glade thing, where ou can draw out the windows06:06
GoodSoft_jason, thx06:06
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grgcsmcu could order a cd from ubuntu.com06:06
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iapx8088bob2, have you got any hint about breezy being shipped with rsync06:06
labandusHi men06:06
BeachBuddhaoops grg no, burned the unzipped file06:06
Hoxzertoresn: it creates but when you have reinstalled XP after ubuntu install XP will take over the boot06:06
labandushow do you do??06:07
Absenthtrappist, your site shows outlook operating on *nix,  is that using wine, xover office, or something else?  also which version of Outlook is it? 2000 or xp?06:07
labandusi 've got a little problem06:07
maneyiapx8088: including rsync isn't unusual, nor new06:07
grgcsmcwell, i only how to burn the iso image on ubuntu06:07
BeachBuddhalet me try that n see what happens - ty grgcsmc06:07
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grgcsmcso cant help u there06:07
grgcsmcsrry06:07
Pegasos989BeachBuddha, some button from f8 to f12 (don't remember which one) lets you to choose from waht to boot. Tapping those in the booting phrase might fix it...06:07
labandusi have a file sharing under my Ubuntu OS , but06:07
grgcsmcwhy the heck wont limewire open!!!!06:07
grgcsmcarg06:08
iapx8088maney, may I disable it? Deinstalling would deinstall ubuntu-base too, so it's not an option.06:08
BeachBuddha Thank You   Pegasos, let me see wht happens there too06:08
grgcsmcah, im gonna restart06:08
Absenthgrgcsmc,  do you have the Jre?06:08
grgcsmcoh.....06:08
grgcsmcno06:08
Absenthlimewire requires java.06:08
trappistAbsenth: crossover... I think it's xp but that shot is kinda old so I'm not sure06:08
grgcsmci see06:08
grgcsmcthx06:08
maneyiapx8088: I don't think it06:08
Absenthtrappist, any chance you've sucessfully connected it to exchange from *nix?06:08
labandusi 've wanna know , whether i can another file Sharing Problem under ubuntu06:08
labanduscan you please help06:08
labandusme06:09
iapx8088maney, you don't think is safe to disable?06:09
trappistAbsenth: I connect to exchange with mutt :)06:09
trappistAbsenth: never got it to work in outlook though06:09
maneyiapx8088: I don't think it's enabled by default... checking06:09
grgcsmclol06:09
Absenthtrappist,  heh.  I'd be using Evolution, except Evo doesn't support Exchange 5.5 :(06:09
grgcsmci searched for lava instaed of java06:09
labandusPlease a little help here...06:09
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labandusPlease a little help here...06:10
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trappistAbsenth: kmail crashes when I try to do the exchange thing.  so far mutt's the only thing that works for me, and of course that's only email.06:10
labandusPlease a little help here...06:10
yahyahow do I set default paper size to a4 instead of letter06:10
_jasonlabandus, stop06:10
Absenthlabandus spamming the channel isn't a good way to get help.06:10
trappistlabandus: every time you say that I feel a little less like helping06:10
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iapx8088ok maney let's see here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/491906:11
labandusi just want a little help06:11
grgcsmcheh, so i do have java06:11
grgcsmcgonna restart06:11
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cocoxhi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: you must specify the kind of system files" can anybody help me plz ?06:11
jbroomelabandus: ask the damn question06:11
jbroome!ask06:11
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labandus_jason, is there a file sharing programm in Ubuntu??06:11
iapx8088cocox, it cannot recognize the disk filesystem. It's saying that06:11
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labandusjbroome, , is there a file sharing programm in Ubuntu??06:12
jbroomelabandus: what are you trying to share the file with?06:12
iapx8088labandus, there is plenty of. But spamming won't help you.06:12
jbroomeanother computer on your lan or a P2P sharing program?06:12
maneyiapx8088: no, I didn't mean the package wasn't installed (I don't think that's new).  but it's not running, so what's the problem?06:12
cocoxyea but how can i know in which filesystem is my disk ???06:12
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blizzkidjbroome, I think he means p2p :-p06:12
cocoxiapx8088: yea but how can i know in which filesystem is my disk ???06:12
iapx8088maney, it's running on my box, and I don't resemble having activating it.06:12
labandusjbroome,  it's not important ,, but i ve to got a new file sharing Program06:12
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iapx8088cocox, mmh, I suppose that, if mount cannot recognize it automatically, your mileage may vary. Have you got any clue? maybe an unformmatted disk?06:13
blizzkidlabandus: have you tried google?06:13
jbroomelabandus: well if you're not going to tell us what kind of sharing you're looking to do, then no.  we can't help you06:13
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jbroomelabandus: or do an apt-cache seach share and see if any packages listed do what you want to do06:13
maneyiapx8088: hmmm.  I don't recall having to turn it off, but this box was upgraded, not installed fresh.  two places: /etc/default/rsync, and /etc/inetd.conf06:13
iapx8088maney, so or I am definitely rooted, or maybe I actvivated and forgot.06:14
labandusi'wanna to sahre files with peers everywhere06:14
blizzkidlabandus: have you tried google?06:14
iapx8088maney,  this is upgraded too.06:14
labandusblizzkid, google.??06:14
jbroomelimewire, bittorrent, azureus, etc will do that06:14
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blizzkidyes, google06:14
PatrikIs anyone here running Xfce4 ??06:14
Absenthgoogle = the great oracle06:14
iapx8088maney, I suppose deinstalling those lsb, ubuntu-base and rsync wouldn't do any harm.06:14
cocoxiapx8088: yea i know for format my disk i'm doing this "mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0" can u help me plz is this ok ??06:14
AbsenthPatrik,  I am.06:14
labandusi just need a name of good Programm06:15
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PatrikAbsenth, have you gotten any icons on your desktop?06:15
labandusblizzkid, i don't to search on the Web06:15
Pegasos989:O Synaptic finds no packages for "skype" :/06:15
AbsenthPatrik, nope, run everything from the right-click menu06:15
jbroomefirefox is the name of a good program06:15
blizzkidlabandus: google --> type in "ubuntu file sharing" and hit enter06:15
PatrikAbsenth, any idea how i can get icons on my desktop?06:15
iapx8088Patrik, you wouldn't, at least you are to run the gnome filemaner or something like it to have them. Check ubuntu doc on Xfc406:15
blizzkidand an entire new world will open up06:15
cocoxiapx8088: because after that i try to mount it doing this "mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and this give me the same message error... so im thinking that something is wrong with my format sintaxys06:16
germancitohaha06:16
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labandusblizzkid, ok06:16
Seveas!tell Pegasos989 about skype06:16
mjk64What server should I give "jigdo-lite" to download the Ubuntu install CD? It asks for a Debian mirror. Maybe that's because I used it for the Debian CD download. The default is http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/06:16
Pegasos989thanks Seveas06:16
iapx8088cocox, I believe too06:16
bl3ssinghello06:16
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bl3ssinghow can I install my flash files ...?06:16
maneyiapx8088: dunno.  neither of the upgraded breezy boxes I have handy seem to be listening for rsync.  is there any other reason to think the box is compromised?06:16
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Patrikiapx8088, ubuntu forums or ubuntu guide?06:16
Norgushello people06:16
bl3ssingI want to install some plugin for flash06:17
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Seveas!tell bl3ssing about flash06:17
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iapx8088Patrik, guide. About oldsystem I believe06:17
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cocoxiapx8088, im still getting the same error with many floppys they r allright06:17
NorgusI have a severe raphical isue on ubuntu, see: http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6718/screenshotvnclibvncserver0vw.png06:17
iapx8088cocox, try mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0 144006:17
Norgusgraphical, sorry06:17
iapx8088mmh not vfat06:17
iapx8088sorry06:17
cocoxiapx8088 what means 144006:17
jbroomedisk size06:17
jbroomei think06:17
cocoxok thnx :)06:17
iapx8088anyway, it's not for ext206:17
Absenthblizzkid,  some combination of too much spoon feeding as children, and too low of an iq to form an intelligent search string I think.06:17
Norguscan anyone tell me a fix if the gfx are screwed halfway like in my screenshot?06:17
blizzkidcocox, 1440 kb06:18
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iapx8088mmh I wonder where Nvidia will relase that go**** 1.8 video driver. If I put my lcd monitor off, I would not come on.06:18
blizzkidAbsenth, I guess. I've been googling for two weeks, 5 hours a day to find a way to solve my problem before I came here, and still have no solution06:18
mipeHello.How Shall I install kernel for 68606:18
iapx8088it seems a video driver issue.06:18
iapx8088gotta do a ctrl alt f1 and ctrl alt f706:19
cocoxiapx8088, that command gives me this error root@techi:/home/cocox # sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0 144006:19
cocoxmkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)06:19
cocoxmkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing reserved sector06:19
_jasonSeveas, does installing just flashplugin-nonfree enable flash in firefox?  I had someone here earlier who couldn't get it to work until he installed the flashplayer-mozilla package.  I'm asking because the wiki says to just install the flashplugin-nonfree package.06:19
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pinpointhow do i update my ubuntu06:19
Absenthcd-roms mount much easier when you put a friggin cd-rom in the drive.06:19
iapx8088cocox, did you tried the wonderful floppy formatter in system tools?06:19
Norgusanyone? my monitor just goes out of range if I switch to f1 through f606:20
iapx8088mmhmh06:20
mjk64Absenth: =)06:20
_jasonpinpoint, are you updating to breezy?06:20
Norgusand the x server looks really messed up http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6718/screenshotvnclibvncserver0vw.png06:20
jbroomeAbsenth: I have heard that. :)06:20
pinpointno just linux-image-38606:20
cocoxiapx8088 yeah but i need to make this by scripts for some homework.... :(06:20
Absenthtoday I'm suffering from a serious case of PEBCAK06:20
pinpointand restricted-modules06:20
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pinpointit gives me an error06:20
iapx8088cocox, I see.06:20
Patrikiapx8088, Colud you please send me a link to that? (xfce files on desktop thingie), cant find it.06:20
jbroomeAbsenth: the only cure for that is beer06:20
cocoxlol06:21
Absenthjbroome,  that's not a bad Idea.  I may have to pick up bottle or three of chimay on the way home.06:21
gfishi have another hdd and its formatted to ntfs how do i see it in linux06:21
wdhAbsenth, that doesn't sound like a bad idea at all :)06:21
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Norgushas nobody else had a graphical error like mine?06:22
jbroomeAbsenth: excellent idea.  i need to go by the liquor store before it closes for thanksgiving06:22
AbsenthI feel dirty now.06:23
mjk64How do I download the Install CD using jigdo? I can find *no* information about that on either help.ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org. :-(06:23
Absenthinstalling outlook 2000 on my pristine ubuntu box.06:23
iapx8088Patrik, nor can I.06:23
Norgusmy device is an S3 card06:23
PabloEscobar_mjk64-> try the torrent06:23
iapx8088Patrik, try on the wiki06:23
XenguyAbsenth: wine?06:23
mjk64PabloEscobar_: Can't do that (no client for that and cannot install one currently)06:24
AbsenthXenguy,  xover, but yeah, basically06:24
Patrikiapx8088, too bad, thx anyways, ill keep looking then :D06:24
Norgusmy driver is 's3virge', is there a more generic driver I can try?06:24
Norgusbecause this one is very broken06:24
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pinpointhow do i upgrade linux-image-386?06:24
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gfishhow do i see my ntfs hdd06:26
theconartistyou dont06:26
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trappistyes he does06:26
jonoyo06:26
theconartist:p06:26
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theconartistgfish, do you have the NTFS kernel module06:27
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AbsenthXenguy,  for my next trick, I'll be installing Tar for windows as my backup solution here in the office :)06:27
ethan_can someone help me? totem and mplayer both close seconds after opening06:27
trappisttheconartist: which ships with ubuntu06:27
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blankyhello06:27
rmn30is anyone experiencing bugs with reiserfs in breezy?06:27
Norgusso nobody knows the problem I have here? http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6718/screenshotvnclibvncserver0vw.png06:28
Norguswhat kind of bugs rmn30 ? Im using reiserfs06:28
gfishtheconartist, i dont think so06:28
rmn30ls hangs - according to dmesg something is going wrong inside kernel06:28
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yrjoinstall totem and mplayer with automatix06:29
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rmn30i can show dmesg output if you like06:29
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trappistrmn30: pastebin if it's more than a line or two06:29
Baileyhi, i want to patch a kernel, but there is nothing in /usr/src?06:30
trappistBailey: sudo apt-get install linux-source06:30
rmn30yeah, not that familiar with irc - how do i do that?06:30
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ethan_ what's automatix?06:30
trappistrmn30: the url is in the topic06:30
rmn30ah06:30
Baileytrappist, but how can i find my kernel tree?06:30
theconartistgfish, nvm i think its with the default ubuntu kernel06:30
yrjoyou can get it from Ubuntu Forum with search06:30
trappistBailey: in /usr/src once you install that06:31
ethan_thanks, i'll try that06:31
trappisttheconartist: it is.06:31
gfishtheconartist, ok what do i do then06:31
ethan_should i remove the packages first?06:31
theconartistgfish, add it to fstab06:31
gfishtheconartist, how do i do that06:31
Baileybut shouldnt i already have sources if its working already?06:31
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randyHey all.06:31
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theconartistBailey, use your head?06:32
Absenthalright, I'll see everyone later.  have a good afternoon.06:32
Baileytrappist, i dont know much about kernel and their install06:32
j813bye guys06:32
Baileybut i want to learn06:32
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randyDoes Dapper contain a Pre-release of Gnome 2.14 ?06:33
rmn30k06:33
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rmn30dmesg is in the bin under rmn3006:33
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Baileyso /usr/src is always empty, except when you want to upgrade, you need to get the sources and the patch, after it will be empty again^06:34
smhey all.. what's that command to find which process is holding on to a file ?06:34
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rmn30sm: lsof | grep <filename>06:34
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smthx!06:34
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gfishcould i format my ntfs partitions to fat cos i dont use windoze now06:35
rmn30strange thing is i have another reiserfs partition (/home) which seems fine06:35
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Baileytrappsit can I patch my current kernel without downloading sources?06:36
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swistakhello, i havre a question, i have two windows partitions, ntfs and fat3206:36
Baileytrappist can I patch my current kernel without downloading sources?06:36
swistaki mount both, ntfs ro , and fat32, rw06:36
swistakntfs show long filenames, but fat32 not06:36
swistakanyone know why?06:36
obsvuugjI have pure-ftpd and I want that it asks an user und the pass when you want to go in the server... how do I do that ?06:37
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Dr_Willisswistak,  you may be using the wrong fileystem in your fstab.06:37
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Nanookhi, can anyone help. I need to dual boot with a Windows installation, how can I do that? I have the Live & Install discs for 5.10, this is my first experience with Linux so please go easy on me :)06:37
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swistakDr_Willis well i use msdos06:38
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TeddWell.06:38
Dr_WillisNanook,  the normal install sets up the GRUB boot loader so you can dual boot.06:38
TeddDamn.06:38
swistaktried fat32 but it says there is no such option :] 06:38
Dr_Willisswistak,  thats your problem then. use 'vfat'06:38
TeddThis is the third time I've been here for those of you who remember meh.06:38
swistakDr_Willis thnx06:38
TeddThe infamous Deboostrap error roblem.06:38
TeddProblem.06:39
NanookDr Willis, so if I load the insall disk it should walk me through it? Thanks06:39
smalso, anyone out there using shfs ? is there something better I should be using ? if not, how do I force shfs to unmount when it doesn't want to ?06:39
Dr_Willisswistak,  :P 'man mount' - has details.06:39
gfishhow do i mount my ntfs hdd06:39
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Dr_WillisNanook,  you may want to defrag/scandisk your windows partition first. and JUST in case backup anything imporntant.06:39
rmn30sm if you install konqueror you can use the fish:// ioslave06:39
TeddCan anybody help me?06:39
TeddPlease?06:39
smI need something at fs level, for emacs etc06:39
TeddI mean it's my third time here and I'm getting this Debootstrap eror. I looked at the forums (thanks to Absenth) to no avail.06:40
smI am liking shfs very much.. I want to do the same with ftp06:40
TeddWell, not paticularly to no avail- ther ewas something about using 'format' as an option, I didn't understand it at all, can somebody explain it to me?06:40
NanookThank you for your help. I have no doubt I will be in here lots getting help, so I appologise now! Thank you again, have a good day06:40
rmn30yeah shfs is quite cool - don't know about umounting though06:40
TeddPlease, I'm getting desperate; can't somebody help me out here?06:41
rmn30perhaps there is a fuse (fs in user space) app to do it?06:41
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TeddAUGH.06:42
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TeddWhat does this damned error mean? And how can I fix it?06:42
Tedd"Debootstrap error", somebody must know.06:42
rmn30sm: http://wiki.thiesen.org/page/Fuseftp06:42
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TeddAnd what does 'using format as the option' mean06:42
TeddSomeone, please help me...06:43
K_DallasQ: how do i install realplayer or at least somethign to play realradios? thanks (synaptic tried to insatall realplayer but it was jammed at the window where it asked me where i had downloaded realplpayer rpm )06:43
moccah!sqlplus06:43
ubotumoccah: I give up, what is it?06:43
moccahanyone know where to get sqlplus on linux..06:44
Tedd!debootstrap06:44
Tedd:X06:44
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blankyis anyone here experienced in linux programming06:44
rmn30K_Dallas use plf repositories:http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf (not ubuntu supported)06:44
blankyit'sjust command line and network stuff06:44
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K_Dallasrmn30, thanks a lot appreciate it06:44
TeddGoddamn. Someone must know about the debootstrap06:44
moccahDownloaded a pkg from oracle`s website... but i dont have the libsqlplus.so06:44
rmn30no prob06:44
bluefoxicyLength: 4,487,062 (4.3M) [audio/mpeg] 06:44
bluefoxicy52% [==================>                  ]  4,487,062    269.64K/s    ETA 00:1806:44
bluefoxicy12:38:43 (222.98 KB/s) - `Chrono_Trigger_MemoriesfromtheWindScene_OC_ReMix.mp3' saved [4487062/4487062] 06:44
Teddrm30, any idea?06:44
bluefoxicyDoes anyone see something wrong here?06:44
TeddAbout debootstrap?06:44
TeddYeah06:45
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TeddYou're listening to Chrono Trigger's soundtrack :P06:45
TeddGood game, but that's not what I'm here for.06:45
germancitohahahaa06:45
rmn30so anyone got any idea about reiserfs bugs?06:45
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bluefoxicyTedd:  more pertainently, WGET found that the file was 52% done, when it was fully downloaded.06:45
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Teddrmn30 do you know anything about this Debootstrap error06:45
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ebelt9hfhi!06:46
rmn30tedd what exactly is the problem?06:46
TeddWell06:46
TeddI get this error instlaling06:46
Tedd"Debootstrap failed something or other"06:46
TeddIt's infamous on the forums06:46
TeddThere was one solution but I didn't understand it; maybe you can explain it to me06:46
TeddSomething about using "format as the method"; Ubuntu wants to format for itself even if it already is06:47
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rmn30can you point me to the page?06:47
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TeddAbsenth gave me the link; I don't think I can dig it up but I can point you to one06:47
TeddHold on06:47
rmn30are you installing along side windows or what?06:48
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TeddStand-alone.06:48
TeddI erased the entire thing.06:48
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fre4kanyone free ... im facing a problem with my nvidia drivers install06:48
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rmn30hmmm06:48
Teddhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10423&highlight=debootstrap06:49
TeddRMN30, there you go06:49
TeddThat's the one06:49
gfishhow do i mount second hdd06:49
gfishits ntfs ] 06:49
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patrick_hallo?06:50
Dr_Willis!ntfs06:51
DeadZedI cannot get any normal screen resolution above 640x320 ... Xorg.O.log is at http://pastebin.ca/3063206:51
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Dr_Willisdoh. no bot. :(06:51
patrick_Willie Szollmann06:51
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Dr_Willisthere he is.. gfish  type '!ntfs' and the bot will tell ya.06:51
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gfish!ntfs06:51
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patrick_Hallo an Alle! Wei hier jemand wie man bei ubuntu die Schrift schrfer stellen kann?06:51
Dr_WillisDeadZed,  what video card anyway?06:51
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cyphasewhatare the differences between a 'server install with the normal ubuntu image and the specialized server installation?06:52
rmn30tedd what have you tried so far?06:52
K_Dallas#ubuntu-de ?06:52
alxosohi every one06:52
cyphasewhat are*06:52
grouthow do install the .deb files i get from the ubuntu package search in firefox?06:52
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K_Dallasgrout, sudo dpkg -i *.deb06:52
grouti tried dpkg -i and i got errors06:52
alxosouse dpkg -i *.deb06:52
K_Dallaslike what kind of error?06:52
Teddrmn30: any idea what the hell that means?06:52
cyphasegrout, you need to use sudo too06:52
DeadZedDr_Willis nvidia geforce 4 if Im correct06:53
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TeddAnd how to do it?06:53
Dr_Willisits best to use synaptic and let handle all the dependencies.06:53
groutUnpacking replacement freeciv ...06:53
groutdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of freeciv:06:53
grout freeciv depends on freeciv-client; however:06:53
grout  Package freeciv-client is not installed.06:53
grout freeciv depends on freeciv-server; however:06:53
grout  Package freeciv-server is not installed.06:53
groutdpkg: error processing freeciv (--install):06:53
grout dependency problems - leaving unconfigured06:53
cyphasesudo dpgk -i *.deb06:53
groutErrors were encountered while processing:06:53
cyphaseah06:53
grout freeciv06:53
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K_Dallasgrout, read the topic!06:53
Dr_WillisDeadZed,  install the nvidia drivers. as mentioned in the 'binary driver wiki' :P type ' !nvidia ' for info from the bot.06:53
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gfishDr_Willis, couldnt i just format the ntfs to fat06:53
groutk sorry06:53
alxosodo you need install first all the depends06:53
rmn30hmm not sure - but that thread seems pretty old06:54
DeadZedDr_Willis I did install nvidia ... nvidia screen comes up when ubuntu boots06:54
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rmn30if it were a bug it probably would have been fixed by release of breezy in october06:54
TeddHmmmmm06:54
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DeadZedDr_Willis I will try corgconfig06:54
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TeddSo, what06:54
Sionidehmm06:54
TeddSHould I just give up?06:55
Sionidejust trying to resize my partitions, got this far;06:55
rmn30what kind of system is it?06:55
Dr_WillisDeadZed,  could be your monitor settings are incorrect.06:55
cyphaseWhat's the difference between a 'server' install with the normal ubuntu image and the specialized server installation image?06:55
TeddDell.06:55
Sionidehttp://www.sionide.net/gallery/albums/pics/Screenshot_008.png06:55
TeddP4.06:55
Sionidehow can i make my fat32 partition bigger?06:55
fre4k!nvidia06:55
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:55
DeadZedDr_Willis well , I did edit them manually .. but I'll see how it goes06:55
Sionidei need more space in windows (unfortunately)06:55
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rmn30this is not really a solution, but do other distros have the same problem?06:56
TeddThis is my first time installing any variation of linux06:56
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rmn30sorry its been so frustrating!06:56
Sionidei'm in ubuntu live cd to make it easier to resize partitions but i still can't do it06:57
TeddSo I gues it's hopeless then huh06:57
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rmn30this is probably a trecherous thing to say but I would recommend trying another distro e.g. suse06:57
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Dr_WillisSionide,  a live cd with qt_parted or gparted - should be able to do it. If you know how to use the tools.06:57
Sionidehttp://www.sionide.net/gallery/albums/pics/Screenshot_008.png06:57
TeddI doubt SUSE is as user-friendly as Ubuntu06:57
Sionidethat's what i've got Dr_Willis - it's not letting make the fat32 bit any bigger for some reason06:58
Dr_WillisSionide,  you do have free space on either side of the partition?06:58
rmn30i've not used it in a while but i used it for a while and found it very good06:58
Dr_Willisive never even heard of the Debootstrap failed    'problem' :()06:59
SionideDr_Willis: no i dunno how to make it put free space before the ext3 part because it won't let me06:59
groutso i have to install each depends seperatly?06:59
rmn30just as easy on the whole and there is a graphical installer which might be easier..06:59
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TeddDr_Willis: It's a abitch06:59
Dr_WillisSionide,  resize the partions to either side of it first.06:59
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SionideDr_Willis: fat32 is the start of the drive, so i need to make free space *before* the ext3 yes, which is 2nd. to enlarge the fat32 but it's greyed out, i can't make the ext3 smaller that way07:00
Teddrmn30: what do you mean by 'graphical installer'07:00
rmn30i mean it boots up with a nice gui and a mouse!07:00
TeddZomg!07:00
TeddHmm07:00
TeddHow big is it07:00
TeddFilewise07:00
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TeddI tsill have to burn it to a CD hmmmm07:00
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TeddWhich means  have to format to Windows before I can do anything :|07:00
christoshello i m trying to install real player. i downloaded a .bin from real.com/linux but i get GLIBCPP_3.2 CXXABI_1.2 not found07:01
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TeddHmm07:01
TeddIs the regular Debian nice?07:01
TeddCloser to ubuntu than SUSE is anyway07:02
smrmn30: thx! I found lufs packages, trying that first07:02
rmn30i'd say debian is better for more experience users07:02
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rmn30suse is aimed at linux newbs too07:02
TeddBasically I'm fucked :|07:02
theconartistnot really07:02
TeddI was REALLY lookin' forward to Ubuntu07:02
theconartistwhy cant you install ubntu07:03
Teddtheconartist: How so?07:03
TeddDebootstrap failed07:03
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linux-newbie-shi where can i isntall ubuntu07:03
groutonce i get something installed with dpkg -i how do i run it?07:03
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blankylinux-newbie-s, you dont install ubuntu in windows07:03
Dr_Willislinux-newbie-s,  Care to rephrase that?07:03
_jasongrout, what did you install07:03
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Teddtheconartist: heard of it? Any ideas?07:03
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groutfreeciv07:04
linux-newbie-shi where can i isntall ubuntu where can i download it07:04
theconartistTecnoVM64, google07:04
theconartistgrout, should be in your games menu07:04
TeddWhat?07:04
cocoxhelp plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!07:04
blankylinux-newbie-s, first, get Partition Magic and resize your harddirve NTFS partition, then, put the disc in when you restart07:04
theconartistTedd, google07:04
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groutthanks07:04
linux-newbie-si have allready  done that07:04
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TeddWhy google07:04
christoshello i m trying to install real player. i downloaded a .bin from real.com/linux but i get GLIBCPP_3.2 CXXABI_1.2 not found07:04
linux-newbie-swhere are the dics to download and bunr them07:04
theconartistchrisb, then get those07:04
theconartistdamnit07:05
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theconartistso many people07:05
theconartistchristos, get those07:05
ghdasdf07:05
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naliothlinux-newbie-s: www.ubuntu.com/download07:05
linux-newbie-shttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso07:05
christosi made a search for those in Synaptic but nothing showd up, any idea where they might be?07:05
linux-newbie-sis this the link i am doing 20000kb/s 3 min left07:06
TeddNothing in Google, dude07:06
naliothlinux-newbie-s: that link is fine (unless you are installing on a powermac)07:07
linux-newbie-si have amd athlon 1.8ghz 256ddram 80gb07:07
rmn30tedd does the live cd boot?07:07
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TeddDidn't get the live CD07:07
TeddRipped it07:08
TeddBurned it07:08
TokenBadI installed the ftpd server..where is the conf file for it put?07:08
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Dr_Willis- /etc/ftp/ or similer - would be my guess07:08
rmn30have you verified that the cd is ok?07:08
linux-newbie-sare there any docs how to isntall ubuntu07:09
SogniXgot a stupid question... how can I add an IP to the NIC from the command line (server install)?07:09
Dr_Willislinux-newbie-s,  tons of them07:09
Pegasos989linux-newbie-s, propably, but you can't fail it. you simply can't07:09
Dr_Willislinux-newbie-s,  see the topic and ubuntu wiki/homepage for them07:09
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Pegasos989Only thing that can go wrong in installing ubuntu is partitioning. And if you are really poor, you may even choose foreign language installation07:10
Pegasos989;)07:10
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quantumi have problems with running cube on ubuntu07:10
TeddNot true.07:10
quantumsomeone managed to do this?07:10
cocoxhelp plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!07:10
TeddPegasos989: Absolutely not true. I have no idea how to fix the debootstrap error07:10
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TeddIf you do, please by all means07:10
TeddTell me07:10
quantumif i chmod something to +eXe do i need to specify a user always?07:11
Pegasos989Hmmh. Never had that kind of problem. But where exactly can you go wrong in installing ubuntu? It only asks the partitions and the keyboard layout if I remember correctly?07:11
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TeddHmm07:12
TeddMaybe I'll try an older version of ubuntu07:12
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rmn30worth a try tedd07:12
Dr_Williswell if you dont read carefully - :P ya can accidnetly take the WHOLE hard drive.. and whipe out some sutff you may of wanted to save.07:12
Dr_WillisLol07:12
Pegasos989Dr_Willis, yeah, I counted that as the partitioning part07:12
Dr_Willisbut thtas a 'user' error issue. :P07:12
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rmn30you should also check the iso after you download it and the cd after you burn it07:13
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Dr_Willisoops.. I ment hdb! Doh!07:13
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Dr_Willis:)07:13
sorush20why can't I open cab files on the file roller or ark?07:13
Dr_Willisdoes the Installer have a "check the cd/md5" feature yet?07:13
rmn30dunno07:13
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Dr_Willisseen that on a few distros. tohought it was handy.07:13
Pegasos989It can check the integrity of cd07:13
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sorush20do I need the debian configuration in my system menu in KDE07:13
sorush20?07:14
rmn30yeah - seems like it might be of value in tedd's case07:14
Teddrmn30: Where can I FIND older versions?07:14
Dr_WillisI noticed that in k3b the othe day - it can check/compare the md5's also.07:14
TeddI have checked the integrity. I'll check again once I go downstairs.07:14
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naliothsorush20: install cabextract07:14
TeddSo.07:14
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TeddI guess I'll go downstairs and format to windows07:15
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rmn30http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/07:15
keHow do I fix this? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/492207:15
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Teddrmn30: what's that07:16
rmn30the older version of ubuntu07:16
TeddHmmm07:16
TeddOK07:16
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TeddActally07:16
Teddrmn3007:16
TeddI'm gonna try to use the live CD07:16
TeddInstead of the Instlal07:17
TeddThink that might variate the outcome?07:17
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rmn30well it will at least let you know that linux is capable of working with your system07:17
rmn30did you check the md5 of the iso download?07:17
TeddWha?07:18
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TeddWhat does that mean07:18
Dr_Willis:)07:18
rmn30do you have the iso that you downloaded still? what system are you using now?07:18
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TeddRight now I'm on an upstairs computer07:18
IcemanV9ke: install build-essential? did ya?07:18
TeddI left MY computer on the Ubuntu install07:19
Pegasos989Hmm. Btw, are you sure you downloaded the right version? I mean that there are diffrent cd images for dffrent processors, right?07:19
darkheartWhen I try to view a php page on localhost through a web browser, it tries to download the file. Where can I fix this?07:19
cocoxhelp plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!07:19
TeddPegasos989: Me?07:19
Pegasos989yea07:19
IRCMonkey999hi, sorry to ask this question again.... how do i download and install VLC media player on ubuntu?07:19
keIcemanV9, yup.. Just found out I had to install libglib2.0-dev - it works now :)07:19
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TeddWell I'll try another mirror I guess07:19
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TeddI'll mess around with it07:19
Teddlater07:19
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: after i rebooted, i'm able to open up all system administration menu's :)07:19
IcemanV9ke: cool. :)07:19
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grouti installed a game put it didnt get out in my games menu, how can i find where i got put?07:20
indigirl1IRCMonkey999: wow!07:20
Pegasos989IRCMonkey999, I think that synaptic package manager might find something if you search with vlc07:20
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quantumanyone know how to run a shoutcast stream as a 5.1 stream?07:20
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quantumi have no idea..07:20
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IRCMonkey999Pegasos989: no :(07:21
indigirl1IRCMonkey999: open synaptic from that menu07:21
quantumi mean as 5.1 audio. totem does not give true 5.1 even if selected from prefs07:21
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: yes... opened up07:21
quantumthe center channel has nothing on it, rear and front give everything07:21
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IRCMonkey999i see some packages but no vlc yet...07:21
Dr_Willisgrout,  check the 'synaptic' tool and see what files that game installed. proberly in /usr/games or /usr/local/games07:21
indigirl1IRCMonkey999: find menu for repositories07:21
linux-newbie-sis it hard to install ubuntu or its the same way as red hat, suse etc07:21
m_akyshello07:21
quantumgrout usr/games07:21
Pegasos989IRCMonkey999, let me rephrase. My synaptic found a packet called vlc ;D07:21
Dr_Willislinux-newbie-s,  very easy.07:21
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z3r0x!file kinternet07:22
searcher`quantum: the best you can do from a stereo signal is divide the stereo signal over the 6 speakers you have07:22
indigirl1Pegasos989: im gonna tell him how to add the apropriate repos07:22
linux-newbie-sdoes it have kde gnome07:22
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Pegasos989indigirl1, ah, okay07:22
blankylinux-newbie-s, you still asking about that...rofl07:22
dducko!info vlc07:22
sorush20how do I command the cab extract..07:22
sorush20?07:22
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB07:22
searcher`quantum: if you want true 5.1 get either an ac3 file or DVD07:22
quantumsearcher and how would i do that with a surround headset? my aureon card's center channel is dead07:22
blankylinux-newbie-s, almost every distro has kde/gnome, plus more07:22
linux-newbie-syes i do i am newbie07:22
K_DallasQ: how do i set the udm mode for my DVD and CD drive on the boot up? do i have to add it to my profile or it could be done better? thanks07:22
Dr_Willislinux-newbie-s,   yes and yes.. and it may be time to read the ubuntu website some...07:22
m_akysI need help. I'm new spanish ubuntu user. I just installed ubuntu but I can't execute any admin application07:22
searcher`quantum: did you check the volume levels?07:22
quantumsearcher oh i see so the stream is lacking 6 channels?07:22
blankylinux-newbie-s, if you wanna talk to me in private I'll help ya, type /query blanky07:22
blankyand then type something07:22
linux-newbie-si hate readin books i never read harry potter sorry07:22
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quantumsearcher i have gone through my alsa setup, and it does practically nothing.07:23
blankyhaha, harry pot-er07:23
searcher`quantum: did you try alsamixer?07:23
IRCMonkey999indigirl1: i am on the graphics menu.... it doesnt have vlc07:23
indigirl1IRCMonkey999: so you add the community universe repository07:23
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darkheart!tell m_akys about es07:23
quantumsearcher' i have that installed. it runs from the command line tool right?07:23
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sorush20why can't I restart the hotplug system it just hangs? can somone help07:23
darkheartm_akys maybe you can speak easier there =)07:23
searcher`quantum: yep07:23
indigirl1!repositories07:23
ubotu[repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list07:23
searcher`for me it has some options gnome doesn't have07:23
IcemanV9sorush20: sudo atitude install msttcorefonts07:23
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indigirl1IRCMonkey999: read that link07:23
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indigirl1IRCMonkey999: from obotu07:24
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IRCMonkey999ok.... thank you indigirl107:24
White-Wolfi require Ubuntu Help who can help me?07:24
m_akysdarkheart, sorry for my english :)07:24
simonvalloreHello how do i get ncurses on ubuntu what library do i need to download07:24
quantumsomehow all this hacking feels like my first year with a _computa_07:24
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searcher`quantum: sometimes you just need to tinker a bit to get it working, for instance i have to disable one option to get sound from the center speaker07:24
bl3ssingI have downloaded my install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz07:24
Stormx2hi everybody!07:24
bl3ssing file? how can I uncompress it ...?07:24
IcemanV9White-Wolf: state your problem plse :)07:24
indigirl1!ncurses07:24
ubotuindigirl1: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:24
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searcher`quantum: should have bought an Apple then ;-)07:25
simonvallore!ncurses07:25
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, simonvallore07:25
darkheartm_akys No problem =) your english is not bad.07:25
m_akysthanks drakheart, I'll try there07:25
quantumsearcher yeah if i recall i once got it running by using a switch to make the center come from my mic line and the rear from my line in. and i even got another device boom from my center line .. if i just remembered how07:25
darkheartm_akys ok =)07:25
White-WolfStart X wont Initialize when i startup i go straight into shell07:25
quantumsearcher right now it doesnt work like that07:25
searcher`quantum: well just try to fiddle around with the options a bit, shouldn't be too hard to figure out07:26
linux-newbie-su said u help me now you are quit07:26
quantumsearcher what's an apple? do you eat them =)07:26
quantumsearcher it seems like fiddling more :)07:26
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bl3ssinghow can I get in the kubuntu channel?07:27
White-WolfStart X wont Initialize when I startup, it goes straight into shell - Can you help?07:27
_jason!kubuntu07:28
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:28
yhheh, ubotu07:28
quantumi found kubuntu unpleasing since my desktop crashed at 3 minutes :(07:28
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Pegasos989:(07:29
z3r0xhi, how can I mount a device as a normal user? I tried it with sudo but I cant access after mounting with a normal users07:29
quantumhey searcher try out this: speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c607:29
Gkanez3r0x, chown/mod07:29
quantumreally a hack that's useful07:30
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blankyin linux, what are the .lib files, I compiled a library but I dont know which are the libraries07:30
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Pegasos989Btw... How do I get out of MAN pages? I fear to use them cause always when I am in terminal and type man <some command here> it opens then man page, but I dunno how to get back so I always need to close terminal and start new one :'(07:30
darkheartGkane You don't really chmod things you mount..you should just mount them w/ diff. permissions.07:30
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Gkaneok :)07:30
darkheartGkane ;)07:30
ravensajust press q07:30
ravensafor like ...quit07:31
Pegasos989ravensa, that is so crazy that it might actually work! thanks07:31
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TokenBadis inetd used on ubuntu by default?07:31
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ravensano prob07:31
ubuntuhallo07:31
ccvhey07:31
ubuntuwhat is07:31
ravensahallo back at you07:31
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ubuntuwhat07:32
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ubuntufsda07:32
ubuntusadf07:32
ubuntusadf07:32
Pegasos989...07:32
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White-Wolfhey guys - = {Start X wont Initialize when I startup, it goes straight into shell } = - Can you help?07:32
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TokenBador should xinetd be used?07:32
z3r0xdarkheart, and how?07:32
infowolfeWhite-Wolf, you using nvidia-glx?07:32
[DK] A-TorstenI havent installed ubuntu yet, and are new to linux... I have a few questions... Anyone who wants to use 5 minutes on me..?07:32
DeadZedI got my screen to work !!! :)07:33
swistak[DK] A-Torsten: jsut ask07:33
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White-Wolfinfowolfe : no ATI Radeon 9200SE07:34
DeadZedDr_Willis, I got it to work finally with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:34
infowolfeWhite-Wolf, bug ati, i'd say ;-)07:34
infowolfeor check in the forums for ati howtos07:34
infowolfeit's quite possible you've just borked out your xorg.conf;-)07:34
[DK] A-TorstenIf linux use drives as fx c: d: ect.. Is it then posible to mount a ftp as a drive..?..... Just yes or no... Its only questions that have to help me figure out if linux are the system i need...07:34
White-Wolfinfowolfe : Xorg.onf?07:35
infowolfe[DK] A-Torsten, if you do the research, you can mount just about anything in your fs.07:35
White-Wolfinfowolfe : *Xorg.conf?07:35
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infowolfeWhite-Wolf, attempt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:35
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Dr_Willisyou can  'mount' a ftp server  I hear - but ive never done so.07:35
[DK] A-Torsteninfo... Okay... Thanks ;)07:35
nalioth[DK] A-Torsten: yes you can mount anything you like07:35
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Dr_Willisand Linux does Not use C: D: E: kind of naming.07:35
Dr_Willis - /mnt/ftpserver /mnt/windowsdrive /mnt/usbdrive1 /mnt/pornstorage07:36
Dr_Willis:P07:36
infowolfe[DK] A-Torsten, i know for a fact you can mount smb, sftp, and a few others quite easily, but yah, linux doesn't use windows style naming.07:36
gnomefreakhda,hdb,hdc is used in linux :)07:36
[DK] A-TorstenDr_Willis... Nalioth... Ok... Thats what i keed ;)07:36
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White-Wolfinfowolfe : cheers BRB07:37
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gnomefreak/mnt/pornstorage   would mount a file foe storage of your porn?07:37
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  :P07:38
gnomefreaklol07:38
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blankyubuntu is pretty slow aye?07:39
blankyI have a fast pc07:39
atrophicare you using the live cd?07:39
blankywhenever I move my windows, they lag. Drivers are working and all07:40
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blankyno, installed07:40
gnomefreakblanky,  mine doesnt run slow07:40
hanseatichi07:40
blankygnomefreak: really :(07:40
atrophicI'm running ubuntu on a slow pc and everything is fast07:40
blanky:'(07:40
Dr_WillisMine is rather brisk. :P07:40
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Dr_Willisbe sure to enable hard drive dma.07:40
infowolfeblanky, what kinda video?07:40
Dr_Willisis one possible issue07:40
blankywhenever I move a window around, on top of another window, it lags, especially things like open office and firefox07:40
blankyis there a setting I must put?07:40
IRCMonkey999there's lag on mine as well... quite noticable07:40
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swistakwell mine ubuntu is slower then turtle with anemia07:40
blankyATI 9800 PRO, and drivers are working, I tested games and they run nicely (UT2K4, ET, etc.)07:40
infowolfeblanky, again, i ask what kind of video card you have.07:40
swistakdunno why, but it's07:41
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hanseatichow can one extract the sound out of a video.mpeg file into some soundfile like sound.wav or sound.mp3?07:41
alumno!boot disk07:41
ubotualumno: No idea07:41
Stormx2how can I make ubuntu a bit faster on a 1.4ghz cpu / 256mb ram?07:41
infowolfeblanky, does ati have something like "RenderAccel" ?07:41
naliothubotu: tell blanky about dma07:41
infowolfeStormx2, buy more ram07:41
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naliothblanky: open office is a system hog to begin wit07:41
infowolfenalioth, dma has nothing to do with xorg being slow ;-)07:41
Stormx2infowolfe: Doesn't work, I'd need a new mobo07:41
alumno!boot07:41
ubotualumno: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:41
infowolfeStormx2, so buy a new mobo.07:41
alumno!boot ubuntu07:41
ubotualumno: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:41
Stormx2infowolfe: You are very unhelpful >.> I've considered that.07:41
IRCMonkey999ubotu: tell me about java run time07:42
blankynalioth: dma, that's it! I remember some program said I had it disabled07:42
Stormx2alumno: /msg ubotu <word>07:42
alumnohow can i creat ubuntu boot disk floppy !!! ?07:42
gnomefreakthats 2 days in a row for updates i havent had updates ina  few days until yesterday07:42
blankyIRCMonkey999, it wont work that way07:42
atrophichanseatic, I'm pretty sure you could do that with jack07:42
swistakStormx2: well for starters - thing that i'm going to so - recompile kernel and install more compact window menager (ex. fluxbox)07:42
naliothalumno: why dont you ask the humans a question?07:42
TokenBadwhere is inetd located in ubuntu?07:42
infowolfeStormx2, i'm just not a hand-holder ;-)07:42
hanseaticuse some apple cpu with 1400MHz ;o)07:42
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infowolfeToba, apt-cache search xinetd?07:42
alumnook07:42
blankydoes ATI have renderaccel07:42
infowolfehanseatic, apple doesn't make cpus07:42
luisitohelllooo!07:42
alumnoi need to creat boot disk07:42
infowolfeblanky, read the docs, you'll figure it out07:42
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alumnoubuntu07:42
hanseaticjack... ok...07:42
IRCMonkey999blanky: firefox asks me to instal java run time... i have no idea how....07:42
naliothubotu: tell IRCMonkey999 about java07:42
Stormx2swistak: Fluxbox eh ;-) Do my gnome apps work on it?07:42
blankyinfowolfe, what docs07:42
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Zedughif dma is off, disk access will be slower (including swap). with only 256M, you'll swap more, slowing down everything, including X07:42
infowolfeblanky, look in /usr/share/doc/07:42
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IRCMonkey999he he he... thanx nalioth07:42
Red-Soxsafe to update the kernel?07:43
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blankycan someone help IRCMonkey999 install java runtime in firefox07:43
blankyoh, java runtime07:43
gnomefreakinfowolfe,  why dont they what would you call a g4?07:43
luisitohey I need to rip a dvd. It is possible in ubuntu?07:43
blanky!tell IRCMonkey999 about restrictedformats07:43
alumnoboot-floppy for ubuntu ?07:43
gnomefreakRed-Sox, yes mine went fine07:43
infowolfegnomefreak, an ibm processor.07:43
infowolfesince ibm makes it.07:43
blankyIRCMonkey999, read the restricted formats thing07:43
naliothluisito: yes, use dvdrip07:43
Red-Soxgood07:43
gnomefreakibm and apple merged no?07:43
IRCMonkey999thanx blanky07:43
Zedughi also recommend fluxbox, especially on slower machines07:43
swistakStormx2: well, as far asi i know, if you have libraries (and you do if you have gnome installed already) then yes the'll work just like KDE aps work under gnome07:43
infowolfegnomefreak, apple doesn't _MAKE_ anything worthwhile.07:43
infowolfegnomefreak, no.07:43
naliothalumno: open a terminal and type "man grub"07:43
IRCMonkey999thanx everyone for helping me..... indigirl1 ...07:43
naliothinfowolfe: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please07:44
gnomefreaksorry nalioth07:44
fernando_hi07:44
Pegasos989ANyone can recommend any decent FTP servers with GUI?07:44
Zedughcan anyone tell me why audacity's built in effects are disabled?07:44
infowolfenalioth, don't highlight me.07:44
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luisitothanks nalioth. I'll run out of thanks for you guys ;)07:44
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alumnook thanks nalioth i will trie07:44
flameyhi all07:44
Pegasos989FTP servers -programs, that is07:44
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cocoxhelp plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!07:44
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keIsn't there an apt-get for xchat-2.6.0 ?07:45
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infowolfeke, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ;-)07:45
Dr_Williscocox,  if you removed the disk befor umounting it - the systemmay be confised.. may be easiest to just reboot.07:45
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gnomefreakke its in the updates for ubuntu07:45
keHmm07:45
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flameywho got wmv9 files to play under Ubuntu 64bit using totem07:45
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FunnyLookinHatMy computer can't get a DHCP request...  how do I fix that?  I don't remember changing anything about dhclient07:45
swistakcocox: well, for starters if it says no mounted, then it wasn't mounted in first place07:46
swistakor you tried unmounting wrong floppy07:46
infowolfegnomefreak, which updates, if you don't mind me asking, do they really have the packagelists for breezy-backports done already?07:46
gnomefreakke: sudo apt-get upgrade should upgrade x-chat as well as kernel if you havent done so already07:46
IRCMonkey999why is it that while using the synaptic package manager, while trying to instal VLC there are lots of other packages being affected as well?07:46
Dr_Willisor its allready unmounted...07:46
keIt is07:46
keWeird07:46
darkheartAnyone know what packages I need to install to view PHP pages served on localhost?07:46
keBrb07:46
gnomefreakinfowolfe,  backports for breezy are done07:46
infowolfegnomefreak, how recently?07:46
apokryphosdarkheart: apache2 and php407:46
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gnomefreaka week or 207:46
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Red-Soxcan you compile .ink files?07:47
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darkheartapokryphos What about php5? I have that and apache2 installed. I can't seem to view php pages though. Keeps asking me if I want to download the file.07:47
cocoxswistak, no i already verified if is mounted and it is07:47
fanopnaic!factoid07:47
ubotuA list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au07:47
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infowolfegnomefreak, weird, i tried apt-get update just thursday and the Packages.gz's were missing ;-)07:47
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gnomefreaksince x-chat is in the main repo it should have the update07:48
cocoxDr_Willis there is no other way to make this ?07:48
ZedughFunnyLookinHat, try configuring your network with a static IP address in the same subnet as your DHCP server and see if you can ping it (or connect to it if it is a HTTP configurable router)07:48
apokryphosdarkheart: I haven't tested php5 with it; if it's packaged properly it should in theory work. If not, go down to php407:48
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Zedughanyone know why audacity's built in effects are disabled?07:48
darkheartapokryphos I had it working earlier, but for some reason, even though I installed php-db, I couldn't get PHP to connect to a MS SQL server. Kept complaining unknown db. So I tried reinstalling things, now it doesn't work.07:48
gnomefreakinfowolfe: sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade oh and if you tried sudo apt-get update you need to do that after adding the repos to your sources list07:49
FunnyLookinHatZedugh, I can get it to work with a static address, it just won't get a DHCP one07:49
IRCMonkey999i'm trying to play an mp3 file with VLC player, but i'm unable to hear any sound.... :-(07:49
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darkheartapokryphos I need the php5 because I'm working with 3rd party code that's written in php507:49
keHmm07:49
ZedughFunnyLookinHat, what kind of box is your DHCP server?07:49
FunnyLookinHatIRCMonkey999, that happens to me too, try using xine07:49
keDoesn't work07:49
keIt's still 2.4.407:49
FunnyLookinHatZedugh, linksys WRT54G07:49
naliothinfralite: the repo is open, there are no pkgs yet, to my knowledge07:49
swistakcocox:  there is possibility that you copied files BEFORE you mounted it, this way the'll be in directory instead of disc07:49
gnomefreakke: did you run sudo apt-get upgrade?07:49
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IRCMonkey999FunnyLookinHat: ok...07:49
naliothgnomefreak: i dont think there are any backports yet07:49
blankyis there a way to speed up window redrawing, its kinda slow07:49
blankyrender accel?07:50
FunnyLookinHatZedugh, I am plugged in now for simplicity sake...  it worked a few days ago, I think a friend may have changed dhclient or dhclient307:50
naliothgnomefreak: even though the repo is open07:50
blankybackinstore?07:50
keYes07:50
gnomefreaknalioth, they are there but you are right no packages07:50
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blankyi already set both, any others?07:50
TokenBadhmmm07:50
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TokenBadI think I didn't do something right07:50
gnomefreaknalioth,  i have 2 backports addded07:50
NoUseZedugh, they aren't you have to highlight a section of audio to use them07:50
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gnomefreakwww.freewebs.com/joeboxernc.htm = my sources list07:51
TokenBadI installed proftpd had it put into inetd...setup the conf file...rebooted..and still can't connect....get connection refused..anyone know why?07:51
drunken-wallabyhi everyone...07:51
ZedughFunnyLookinHat, the default admin address for your router should be 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1, open a browser and type http:/192.168.0.1 (or .1.1) and check your routers settings, your friend might have turned DCHP off07:51
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ZedughNoUse, thanks, I'll try that07:52
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gnomefreak! info xchat07:52
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, gnomefreak07:52
FunnyLookinHatZedugh, DHCP is still on, he changed somehting on my computer...  o well, I'll see if I can do something besides reinstalling ubuntu, lol07:52
cocoxswistak, i think that could be the problem either i ' ll chek this out thnx 4 ur tiem07:52
gnomefreakke: did you get any updates with apt-get upgrade?07:52
keNo07:53
gnomefreakke: also are you using breezy or hoary?07:53
keIt's all up-to-date07:53
keUhm07:53
gnomefreak5.04 or 5.10?07:53
keI dunno the name, I just downloaded the 5.1007:53
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IRCMonkey999FunnyLookinHat: may i know what player you use to watch movies? especially .avi files which were encoded with xvid codec07:53
swistakwell, hip hip hurray for me, i menaged to run xmms with mp3 support :D yay, now i only have to install gcc, but now i can do it with nice music in background ^^07:53
Dr_Willisi hate the names. :P lol07:53
IcemanV9xchat 2.6.0 is in breezy-backports AND 2.4.4 is in main07:53
FunnyLookinHatIRCMonkey999, I use xine...  it seems to handle everything very well07:54
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gnomefreak5.10 =breezy and i think the upgrade for xchat was either last night or today for me07:54
FunnyLookinHatIRCMonkey999, sudo apt-get install xine07:54
LinuxN00bieyo NoUse07:54
keHmm07:54
NoUseLinuxN00bie, hey07:54
flameyi have a problem that i cant play all wmv files under Ubuntu 64bit using totem, can anyone help with this problem07:54
keSo why isn't it coming here?07:54
TokenBadI removed proftpd and wanted to reinstall so could make it standalone07:54
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FunnyLookinHatIRCMonkey999, you may also need to download a bunch of codecs...  search for aht on ubuntuforums.org07:54
LinuxN00biebout the segfault when running synaptic07:54
TokenBadbut when tried..it didn't ask this time..is there something else that need to do?07:54
gnomefreakIcemanV9,  ty than that would mean the backports are up (kinda)07:54
LinuxN00bieNoUse, i edited the /etc/apt/sources.list file07:55
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fanopnaicwhat can be wrong when I can't access the cups web interface, even though I added cupsys to shadow group?07:55
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swistakflamey: bad news, according to ubuntu wiki, there is no binary codecs for wmv under AMD 6407:55
LinuxN00bieand commented everything out07:55
IRCMonkey999FunnyLookinHat: ok... thanx a lot...07:55
naliothubotu: tell IRCMonkey999 about multimedia07:55
NoUseLinuxN00bie, why?07:55
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LinuxN00biethen synaptic could run without segfault07:55
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Stormx2LinuxN00bie: yay for no repos in your sources list ;-)07:55
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LinuxN00bieyeap07:55
Stormx2LinuxN00bie: Synaptic will run, but you won't get any packages.....07:55
flameyswistak: tnx..... hope they work on it soon07:55
NoUseLinuxN00bie, so now it runb but it has no purpose07:55
LinuxN00biei uncommented them back again07:55
IcemanV9gnomefreak: i don't remember when xchat got upgraded to 2.6 'til you guys mentioned it. :)07:55
LinuxN00bieso now it can run07:56
LinuxN00biebut after sometime07:56
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LinuxN00bieit crashes with segfault07:56
Stormx2LinuxN00bie: sudo apt-get update would have done the same thing07:56
IRCMonkey999nalioth: wooo hooo....  this channel rocks.... :)07:56
NoUseLinuxN00bie, have you fixed your memory yet?07:56
LinuxN00biethen i hv to uncomment it back again07:56
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LinuxN00biehmm not yet07:56
kebrb07:56
NoUseLinuxN00bie, you are spinning your wheels, you are trying to fix a hardware problem with software07:56
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LinuxN00bieit might sound cheap to ye coz, i mean what's ur currency?07:57
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NoUseLinuxN00bie, US07:57
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LinuxN00biemine is RM07:57
foxmani have toshiba satellite L10 i can't know battery status07:57
LinuxN00bieurs is US$07:57
NoUseLinuxN00bie, I'm not making an arguemtn for cost, I'm saying your computer will not fuction properly until you fix this07:58
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LinuxN00bieyea07:58
m_akyshello, I need help. I think that I have a problem with gksudo command07:58
LinuxN00biebut ram is costly here07:58
LinuxN00bieso it'll take some time07:58
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naliothm_akys: explain your problem, plase07:58
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IcemanV9foxman: type 'acpi -a' to get the status on battery07:58
Pegasos989I've heard that you can replace RAM with 30 chinese teenagers memorizin numbers in your basement?07:58
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m_akysI don't know the reason but admin applications only runs if I su as root user in console and execute them07:59
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swistakPegasos989: old :P and stupid07:59
m_akysI can't execute the admin applications from gnome menus as normal user07:59
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m_akysit seems that gksudo don't work fine07:59
TokenBadif you do apt-get remove how can you have it remove everything of the install so can install as new?07:59
Pegasos989swistak, yeah, I know. But as LinuxN00bie can't get new ram very soon, do you have any other ideas?07:59
luisitonalioth, sorry, I can't find the dvdrip :(08:00
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LinuxN00bieI uncommented all the lines in sources.list, then run synaptic, then kill synaptic, then commented all the lines in sources.list, then it'll run normally without segfault08:00
foxmanmy ubuntu not support acpi08:00
DeadZedI updated my ubuntu to latest 2.6.12-10-386 and now boot-up splashscreen dont work :(08:00
LinuxN00bieand so..08:00
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IcemanV9dvdrip is in breezy/multiverse08:00
naliothubotu: tell luisito about repos08:00
naliothluisito: enable universe and multiverse08:00
LinuxN00bieeverytime i got a segfault with synaptic, i hv to do that08:00
IcemanV9foxman: well, then you won't get the status on the battery :/08:01
luisitonalioth, thanks again man!08:01
NoUseLinuxN00bie, ok08:01
White-WolfCAn someone help me with StartX problems??08:01
alumno!floppy08:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, floppy is flop, flop, flop..08:01
drunken-wallabyis there a way to tell gnomebaker it should use the -overburn option?08:01
alumno!flop08:01
ubotualumno: Wish i knew08:01
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LinuxN00biei wonder why is synaptic acting like that..08:01
NoUseWhite-Wolf, ask your question08:01
DeadZedWhite-Wolf sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:01
NoUseLinuxN00bie, .... have you listened to anything I've said08:01
LinuxN00bieyeap08:01
ZedughNoUse, thanks again, they work as you said, but IMO bad UI for the other (LADSPA, etc) plugins not to be "greyed out" when there is no selection. Maybe they can be selected as a real-time effect during recording? I'll try that. If so, then that's ok, ie. how it works, but documentation should say something.08:01
LinuxN00bieexcept for the rams08:02
LinuxN00biecoz they're costly over here08:02
White-WolfDeadZed : i have tryed 'dpkg-reconfigure Xserver-Xorg' does it need to be run as root?08:02
NoUseLinuxN00bie, you can't ask why your computer is acting strangely while your RAM is bad08:02
NoUseLinuxN00bie, that is the cause08:02
LinuxN00biehmm..08:02
DeadZedWhite-Wolf yea08:02
White-WolfDeadZed : ok brb (need to change PC's)08:02
naliothalumno: you can make a grub boot disk, i asked you to read the grub man page to see how to do it08:03
Pegasos989Can anyone recommend me any good software for running a HTTP and FTP servers?  GUI would be nice...08:03
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XenguyGNOME question: is there a way to see *all* the apps that are spread across different workspaces?08:03
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IRCMonkey999woooo hooo.... i can play an mp3 file.....08:04
IRCMonkey999now for a .avi file ;)08:04
zenlunaticwhy is it when i copy a file from a cd the gnome icon for the file has a lock on it?08:04
IRCMonkey999long live xine.... but i dont understand why VLC wouldnt do it....08:04
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quantummaybe you could try installing the alsa plugin for vlc08:05
quantumit is a separate package08:05
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ibhHi all08:05
jadacyrusi have a question about my Audigy 2 card using the optical output08:05
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darkheartAnyone know why I can't view PHP files from localhost webserver? Web browser tries to download the file instead.08:05
ibhi have problem with ubuntu 5.10 installation : i got this message The installation process fails while trying to install the initrd-tools package08:06
LinuxN00bieok forget bout rams, now "There was an error intializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio." in audacity, how to solve this? thx08:06
IRCMonkey999ooo ok.... quantum i'm of to trying it now.... he he he... me am a newbie to linux08:06
alumnoi am reading thanks ;)08:06
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JDahldarkheart, have you installed the apache php library?08:06
quantumircmonkey999 me too :)08:06
NoUseLinuxN00bie, you have to close other apps that are using the sound card08:06
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quantumircmonkey999 just a thought. i am exploring the aureonspace i got08:06
ibhany one know how to solve it ?08:06
darkheartJDahl Yeah, I believe so. What's the package called?08:06
quantumjust trying to get simultaneos 5.1 + stereo sound for my other boomer08:07
White-WolfDeadZed : Nope that didnt work, it paused for a second then just went back to let me enter another command line08:07
IRCMonkey999he he he...08:07
IRCMonkey999good luk quantum08:07
quantumanyone know if this is possible? it's a aureon 5.1 pci card08:07
IcemanV9i hope totem-xine would be default for the next release (totem-gstreamer causes too much of headaches)08:07
LinuxN00biehmm08:07
quantumfun08:07
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ibhThe installation process fails while trying to install the initrd-tools package ::  this message how can we solve !?08:07
bur[n] erIcemanV9: i dont' think it can due to codecs shipped?  I could be wrong08:07
JDahldarkheart, probably libapache2-mod-php408:07
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IcemanV9bur[n] er: i think it is a seperate package .. i could be wrong as well. ;)08:08
ibh??????????????/08:08
quantumircmonkey it's just a matter of connecting devices + channels .. but it seems alsa does not fully support the switches it provides..hmm08:08
Seveas!info revelation dapper08:08
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jadacyrusanyone have any luck using optical on an audigy 2 card?08:08
uboturevelation: (GNOME2 Password manager), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.3-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 308 kB, Installed size: 1100 kB08:08
White-WolfDeadZed : Nope that didnt work, it paused for a second then just went back to let me enter another command line08:08
JDahlibh, I would like to buy a consonant...08:09
DeadZedyea igot that08:09
DeadZedfist time08:09
quantumjadacyrus i got two opticals too .. they don't seem to appear in the alsa board at all08:09
White-Wolfsorry08:09
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DeadZedarrgghh .... typos08:09
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darkheartJDahl Yeah, I have it installed but I use libapache2-mod-php508:09
quantumjadacyrus try installing gnome-alsamixer08:09
DeadZedfriggin computers man08:09
LinuxN00bieNoUse, i don't see anything that uses my sound card on the window list08:09
White-Wolflol08:09
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quantumjadacyrus at least it got options08:09
jadacyrusYeah i got that far08:09
jadacyrusand i raised all the levels08:09
h3lixhey guys, ive got a big problem and ive been searching and trying for about 3 days now08:10
quantumjadacyrus it seems to be in dev08:10
jadacyrusbut for some reason still no sound, might try reinstallin driver08:10
h3lixif anyone can gime a hand id be much abliged08:10
TokenBadthis is driving me nuts08:10
jadacyrusi c08:10
darkheartWhite-Wolf Did you type 'Xserver-Xorg'? cause it's lowercase. Maybe that make a diff.08:10
DeadZedWhite-Wol You ARE using ubuntu, right08:10
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quantumjadacyrus do you got switches or options for the opticals, if not like i do i dont think they will run at all08:10
sveinung1I get a configuration error when i start up the computer. How do I find the corrupted file?08:10
DeadZedWhite-Wolf You ARE using ubuntu ?08:10
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NoUseh3lix, ask your question08:10
ZedughDeadZed, i tried to come up with a name with Zed, and all the "good ones" were used, so... Zed...ugh!08:10
JDahldarkheart, maybe script isnt exectutable or something simple like that?08:10
jadacyrusyeah ive got the switches and options for them quantum08:11
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Stormx2JDahl: chmod 700 <script>08:11
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h3lixi have a huge issue with grub, the installer saw my winblows xp install and said it was safe to install the grub boot loader, so i hit yes and installed it. it didnt install, ive gone into the live cd and done shit and still no go08:11
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DeadZedyea, baby , Zeds, good name08:11
White-WolfDeadZed : Ubuntu whats ubuntu..........yes im using ubuntu08:11
quantumjadacyrus lucky you. damn those switches, it provides but does not support it seems08:11
GodLOL I have teddy bears all over my screen08:11
NoUse!tell h3lix about grub08:11
h3lixive dont "grub -> root (hd0,1) -> setup (hd0)"08:11
h3lixand no go08:11
jadacyrusquantum, have you checked under preferences to enable them08:11
DeadZedWhite-Wolf and xorg works to some extent in your ubuntu?08:11
flameyGod, its a virus :)08:11
JDahlStormx2, probably a+x?08:11
NoUseh3lix, there might be some steps you can follow there08:11
Godflamey, Actually I did it.08:11
hallerhi. what is the default port vncserver / vino is listening to?08:11
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Stormx2JDahl: Either work.08:11
h3lixfollow where?08:11
Godflamey, It's called xteddy.08:12
White-WolfDeadZed : Xorg ? i installed it yesterday and i have no idea what Xorg is!08:12
flameylol08:12
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NoUseh3lix, ubotu sent you links08:12
h3lixah thank you08:12
chicken-manCan some one help me get Gnome to work, I done a server install and installed gnome-desktop which also installs X, but when it start it cannot find X in /usr/X11R6/bin/X  ?08:12
JDahlStormx2, no - not unless he installs the script with a UID of the webserver (I think)08:12
h3lixappreciate it ill see if i cant get this working now08:12
soundrayhaller, should be 5800 or 580108:12
quantumjadacyrus i got aux and line they are those?08:12
jadacyrusno08:12
LinuxN00bielol accidentally killed xchat08:12
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DeadZedWhite-Wolf type man xorg on command line08:13
darkheartJDahl No, they don't need to be executable, only readable. The PHP engine parses the files when they are read.08:13
jadacyrusquantum, first make sure your audigy device is selected under device08:13
tuxitohola08:13
White-WolfDeadZed : kk brb08:13
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tuxitoalgun latino?08:13
Stormx2JDahl: Well, 755 then08:13
sorush20guys I can't view some of my tiff files what could the problem be?08:13
jadacyrusquantum, the switches are called IEC95808:13
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quantumjadacyrus i got aureon 5.1 pci fun on the alsa mixer08:13
jadacyrusquantum, so make sure u have them enabled08:13
NoUseLinuxN00bie, try running 'killall esd' in a terminal and see if you can start audacity08:13
tuxitoalguirn fr Chile?08:13
quantumjadacyrus cool i have those08:13
darkheartJDahl I had it working earlier, but then started f@**ing w/ it to get something else that wasn't working working. Suddenly I can't view the pages anymore. (Did a bunch of reinstalls).08:13
jadacyrusquantum yeah those are the opticals08:14
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medw1974Hi...can anyone help...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?08:14
quantumjadacyrus so everything in iec is optical-related?08:14
chicken-manCan some one help me get Gnome to work, I done a server install and installed gnome-desktop which also installs X, but when it starts it cannot find X in /usr/X11R6/bin/X  ?08:14
jadacyrusquantum i think so08:14
jadacyrusquantum also S/PDIF if you see it08:14
quantumjadacyrus very much solved mysteries. thanx08:14
Stormx2chicken-man: And did you install X?08:14
jadacyrusyeah it still might not work, coz i cant get mine too but i know you at least have to have those enabled08:14
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quantumjadacyrus monitor, phase inverse, select valid, loop, output08:15
LinuxN00bieNoUse, YAY it works, THX!08:15
White-WolfDeadZed : yea i get a big old instruction manual08:15
chicken-manStormx2, the gnome-desktop package installs X08:15
JDahldarkheart, it always worked fine for me in the past also... I never had to do anything special08:15
DeadZedWhite-Wolf How long have you been using linux now ?08:15
Stormx2chicken-man: o_O08:15
LinuxN00bie^_^ V08:15
quantumjadacyrus + 5v and copyright08:15
Stormx2chicken-man: When do you get the error, when installing?08:15
White-WolfDeadZed : 6 hours..........mabye08:15
jadacyrusquantum not sure what you are lookin at08:15
DeadZed:D08:15
DeadZedomg08:15
DeadZedlol08:16
chicken-manStormx2, no all installed, when the computer goes to run GDM08:16
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quantumjadacyrus gnome-alsamixer switches08:16
White-WolfDeadZed : lol what?08:16
quantumjadacyrus, as i said i got a aureon 5.1 pci fun08:16
DeadZedlol means laughing a lot or something08:16
darkheartJDahl It worked fine for me also on the first install, but despite having php-db installed, I couldn't use the MSSQL connection type in the PEAR DB class.08:16
chicken-manStormx2, it cannot find X in the normal location08:16
Zedughchicken-man, have you checked that X is in /usr/X11R6/bin?08:16
DeadZednice joke man08:16
jadacyrusquantum not farmiliar with that im still havin trouble myself08:16
darkheartJDahl So I tried installing/reinstalling packages and then suddenly it's broke.08:16
quantumjadacyrus try installing gnome-alsamixer =)08:16
jadacyrusquantum all i know is the IEC shit is for optical08:16
DeadZedWhite-Wolf what box did you install this ubuntu on08:16
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chicken-manZedugh, yes it's not there, but I thought it would install it there by default08:17
White-WolfDeadZed : box?08:17
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quantumjadacyrus yeah i believe they are meant for controlling the sound stream in a generic matter08:17
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Blonde_with_braiohhhhh08:17
quantumjadacyrus well the alsa-wiki could explain them08:17
JDahldarkheart, did you try restarting the webserver?08:17
White-WolfDeadZed : a small rectangular one its called a harddrive08:17
quantumjadacyrus you know www.alsa.com?08:17
darkheartJDahl Yeah, quite a few times ;)08:17
jadacyrusquantum yeah08:18
DeadZedWhite-Wolf youre kidding me, right08:18
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quantumjadacyrus if i could just find aureon-specific there08:18
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jadacyrusquantum well who manufactures you're card08:18
quantumjadacyrus and if mic-in mode is selected, is it active as center/lfe i dont know08:18
White-WolfDeadZed : hey im only 16 dont poke fun at the noob!08:18
jadacyrusthey have an entire database of cards08:18
JDahldarkheart, what does "cat /etc/mime.types | grep php" tell you?08:18
DeadZedIm being pulled, man08:18
quantumjadacyrus been running around my computer for  an hour now08:18
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Stormx2Lets see if fluxbox works ;-)08:19
sorush20how can I open mdi files?08:19
trappistJDahl: just so you know, grep php /etc/mime.types is a little more efficient, and less typing08:19
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quantumjadacyrus i got two useless in and out plugs in my front panel. does your audigy have a aux connector for plugs?08:19
JDahltrappist, true :)08:19
darkheartJDahl It's got the correct mime types in there08:19
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jadacyrusquantum yeah08:20
quantumjadacyrus lucky you again08:20
jadacyrusheh08:20
quantumjadacyrus well what do you get for 40 euros08:20
darkheartJDahl application/x-httpd-php                         phtml pht php08:20
Zedughchicken-man, i did "dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/X" and it says its from package xserver-common, so do "dpkg -s xserver-common" (little 's') to see if you have xserver-common installed08:20
jadacyrusi dunno im american08:20
jadacyrushaha08:20
quantumjadacyrus you do know that euro is about 1.2 bucks ???08:20
jadacyrusamerican with a taste for africa08:20
quantumjadacyrus uncivilized08:20
DeadZedWhite-Wolf ekhem, ,, whatever you age is ... (if it's more than 40, rresspect) ,, Go watch TV now and buy some new computer (box) tomorrow and install winxp and ubuntu on it ... Though Im sure youre having a laugh on my expense08:20
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quantumjadacyrus hi there. i'm finnish =) and that was with a ;)08:21
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jadacyrusalright later08:21
DeadZedquantum Coan o Brien likes finland a lot for some reason08:21
MitjaHow do I format free space from console?08:21
quantumDeadZed he must have had a sip of sinebrychoff beer ;)08:21
White-WolfDeadZed : i have a XP/Ubuntu multi boot install , any why would i need a new computer?08:22
naliothDeadZed: quantum: jadacyrus: can y'all take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please?08:22
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DeadZedWhite-Wolf why doesnt it work then08:22
quantumi apologize. will do08:22
DeadZedit should08:22
White-WolfDeadZed : thats what i want to know08:22
soundrayMitja, do you mean free space on the hard drive?08:22
JDahldarkheart, shouldnt you have something for php{3,4,5} in mime.types?08:22
DeadZednalioth could you help White-Wolf please, I cant take it08:22
Mitjasoundray, yes, and it's not mounted anywhere08:23
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Stormx2eek08:23
soundrayMitja, is it partitioned?08:23
Pegasos989!php08:23
ubotusomebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:23
Mitjasoundray, not yet08:23
chicken-manZedugh, it was not installed :-/08:23
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Mitjasoundray, just free08:23
sorush20how do read office document imaging files?08:23
DeadZednalioth What are you doing now08:23
soundrayMitja, to partition on the console, try cfdisk.08:23
Stormx2fluxbox is... interesting ;-)08:23
DeadZednalioth help someone and stop wanking there08:24
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soundrayMitja, after creating the partition, you have to reboot. Don't skip, you'll get into trouble.08:24
Stormx2DeadZed: ooohhh he's not gonna like that08:24
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Mitjasoundray, thx, I tried in GNOME, but can't seem to find the buttons..08:24
Stormx2DeadZed: told ya08:24
darkheartJDahl There is nothing for 5, but there are types for 3 and 4.08:24
naliothDeadZed: please be respectful08:24
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medw1974Hi...can anyone help...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?08:25
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White-Wolfso can anyone elce help?08:25
chicken-manZedugh, ERROR starting GDM: cannot stat /etc/X11/X08:25
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White-Wolfanyone?08:26
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jmbarbierHi... another help request... upgrading from Hoary to Breezy on amd64, with a LVM + RAID1 partitions, i had a massive filesystem corruption... lost everything... WHY ???08:27
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LinuxN00biehello, can anyone plz tell me what this means?: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnuchess_5.07-2_i386.deb:  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 208:27
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kePerhaps a stupid question, what is dapper?08:28
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greenpenguin13development version of ubuntu08:28
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JDahlLinuxN00bie, are you running a package manager without sudo, or are you running several instances of the package manager at the same time?08:28
keAh08:28
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quantumanyone know how a source for 5.1 channel streams? are there any?08:29
LinuxN00bieJDahl i'm not running it without sudo or hv several instances of it08:29
White-WolfCan anyone help me with a StartX/GUI problem?08:29
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LinuxN00bieJdahl, i'm downloading something big, and at the same time running it08:30
soundrayWhite-Wolf, we'll try.08:30
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White-Wolfwell basically i cant load StartX08:30
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, detail?08:31
linux-newbie-sshi folks u remember me 15 min i asked about ubuntu now  i installed it was piece a cake one of the best linux distro i ever seen08:31
IRCMonkey999the time in my system tray doesn't display a.m or p.m even in the 12 hr mode.... why?08:31
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griffin_anyone good feel like giving some advice on lexmark printers?08:32
sorush20hello08:32
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chicken-manCan some one help me get Gnome to work, I am getting this error: cannot stat /etc/X11/X08:32
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Zedughchicken-man, how did you install xserver-common?08:32
n0dland xclient-base?08:33
griffin_wow my grammer was bad there.... anyone feel good...printers08:33
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chicken-manZedugh, apt-get install08:33
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PinTol o08:33
soundraygriffin_, grammer is gramper's wife08:33
AndieBHi all!08:33
griffin_thanks08:33
SimimiI get this error when I try to use my cd-rom it says it can not find mountpoint in... fstab? I tried man fstab but I do not understand what it says08:33
SimimiHi hi!08:33
LinuxN00biecorrect spelling: grammar08:33
AndieBI'm having a bit probbs with a application that I've installed, called jEdit, anyone heard of it?08:34
PinToi'am trying to install a new kernel ...and i'am using a guide but it stops workin08:34
griffin_ohhhh, so now my grammar and spelling are poor.08:34
quantumand your syllabus lacks depth08:34
Simimispecifically I am trying to use it with TOTEM08:34
IcemanV9chicken-man: are you sure it IS installed? type 'dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg' to see if it IS installed08:34
blankyI have a libtinyxml.a and header files, where can I put them so I can access them through command line for G++ in any directory08:34
jbroomeand you may or may not smell like elderberries. :)08:34
griffin_and my lexmark wont print so no one will ever know08:34
soundraygriffin_, I've never had a Lexmark, but let us know what the problem is anyway.08:34
PinTothe guide stops workin after about 8 lines?08:34
linux-newbie-ssi installed ubuntu it open a grafik window how can i go to xterm window ? or there is no xterm08:34
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White-WolfSoundray : startup Linux, it goes through the usuall boot cycle and comes up with 'failed to load X Server it may not be setup correctly' then it goed into the shell08:34
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sethkPinTo, it's probably written for the 2.4 kernel08:35
AndieBI need and want to installd SUN Java Runtime Enviroment 1.5... how should I do that? Can't find it in Synaptic Package Manager??08:35
klanderhow do i set grub to boot into windows by default ?08:35
griffin_well, I have the drivers installed, and ubuntu knows its there.  It send the print job, and then seems to think that the job has printed. Meanwhile the printer does nothing08:35
White-WolfSoundray : *I startup Linux08:35
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chicken-manIcemanV9: does no output mean it's installed ?08:35
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IcemanV9linux-newbie-ss: accessories > terminal08:35
PinTo2.6 sethk08:35
soundrayWhite-Wolf, if you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you may get a clue as to what goes wrong.08:35
IcemanV9chicken-man: then it is NOT installed.08:35
sethkPinTo, the kernel is 2.6.  I'm saying that the guide is probably written for 2.4.  What is it that "stops working"?08:35
hallersoundray, nope 5800 didnt work. it's 5900, i found it here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-April/msg00111.html but thanks08:35
sethkPinTo, what does it say that is not doing what you expect?08:36
PinToi have a hard time today ...put it this way i need a format08:36
White-WolfSoundray : ok08:36
quantumaway for a few hours-it's football time08:36
soundrayhaller, yeah, that's the http port, but vnc is on 58xx still.08:36
IcemanV9chicken-man: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg08:36
LinuxN00bieif i use my internet connection for other things while downloading a big file, will that file corrupt?08:36
PinTosethk just a sec08:36
klanderhow do i set grub to boot into windows by default ?08:36
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AndieBLinuxNOObie: No.08:36
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chicken-manIcemanV9: ahhh good :-P08:37
griffin_soundray, sounds odd eh? drivers are there and print job gets sent. I thought mabe a prob with USB?08:37
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Simimiwhat does it mean when it can not find my cd-rom mount point in fstab?08:37
griffin_no pun intended08:37
soundrayWhite-Wolf, you can put the file up on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl if you want.08:37
jmbarbierdid anybody have trouble upgrading from hoary to breezy with raid 1 devices ???08:38
soundraygriffin_, enter lsusb and see if the printer is there.08:38
LinuxN00bieklander, edit the file in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?08:38
ZedughIcemanV9, i was checking, does xserver-xorg install the x-client packages, seems like it doesn't08:38
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IcemanV9Zedugh: it should .. it's a dummy package08:40
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White-WolfSoundray : its giving me a 'Permission Denied'08:40
PinTosethk follow this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto#head-cc3d847e58cfda6ae7b7416aeab440f794a6dd3108:40
soundrayWhite-Wolf, sudo ls then.08:40
soundrayWhite-Wolf, *lsusb08:40
White-WolfSoundray : lsusb08:41
White-Wolf?08:41
ZedughIcemanV9, yeah, but if you list its dependencies, no clients08:41
chicken-manIcemanV9: OK large pile of errors now .....08:41
PinToit works up until sudo apt-get install linux-source08:41
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chicken-manIcemanV9: ERROR: could not open default font08:42
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sethkPinTo, ok, then what happens?08:42
White-WolfSoundray :whats lsusb08:42
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h3lixstill no go08:42
soundrayWhite-Wolf, 'sudo lsusb' and hit return.08:42
h3lixand now im getting this08:42
h3lix/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.08:42
White-WolfSoundray :ok08:42
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PinTocannot find kernel source08:43
PinToi need to build a kernal with ATM pppoa bla bla for my modem to work ...u see08:43
IcemanV9chicken-man: hmm .. did you just install Ubuntu? i remembered that you said you installed it as server, then gnome-desktop?08:43
sethkyou mean that if you do:   ls -ld /usr/src/linux*    you don't see a file names linux*.tar.bz2?08:43
White-WolfSoundray :right its giving me a whole load of addresses08:43
PinTono08:44
IcemanV9chicken-man: gnome-desktop *should* install xorg as well08:44
r3nd3zHmm, can anyone tell me why ubuntu stops loading after having pressed "Enter"? A lot of stuff loads, but it stops, screen goes black, then nada.. CD rom stop spinning the CD, and nothing. P4 system08:44
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chicken-manIcemanV9, Just install 5.10 "breezy" server install the i install gnome-desktop, I'll check xorg08:44
Zedughchicken-man, not positive, but the "top-level psuedo package" to install a working X environment could be xorg-common08:44
h3lixlet me ask you guys, would reinstalling my winblows and then putting ubuntu ontop fix this problem?08:44
jmbarbierso... nobody there runs a LVM+RAID1 ???08:44
soundrayWhite-Wolf, sorry, I was getting confused. Have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?08:45
h3lixive done everything in those grub links and still no worky08:45
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sethkPinTo, that's odd.  I did the install, and I have /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz208:45
PinToatleast if i could just make menu config and build a kernel...i would be getting somewhere08:45
griffin_soundray, the printer is there on lsusb as device 002.  strange.  maybe the drivers are no good. Although they are straight from lexmark, i did have to fiddle to install them08:45
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chicken-manIcemanV9, xorg-common is installed08:45
IcemanV9chicken-man: dpkg -l |grep xorg-common08:45
White-WolfSoundray : it says 'permission Denied' when i try to access it08:45
sethkPinTo, there must be an error during the install, if the tar file doesn't appear08:45
chicken-manIcemanV9, looks like a problem with the fonts to me :-/08:45
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PinTosethk yeah its probably me08:45
sethkPinTo, by the way, you want make xconfig, not menuconfig, unless you are unable to run windows08:45
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PinToright thnx sethk08:46
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sethkPinTo, try the install again, click on "terminal" so you can see if there are any strange messages08:46
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, you're on the console, right?08:46
IcemanV9chicken-man: did you tried this command, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"?08:46
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sethkPinTo, make sure you have "un-clicked" the box that says "close automatically after install"08:47
sethkPinTo, that's not the exact words but hopefully you know which box I mean08:47
White-WolfSoundray : im in the root login of the shell08:47
Zedughchicken-man, check if you have ( and install if you dont ) x-window-system-core08:47
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PinToyeah ok08:47
White-WolfSoundray : i can only get my user account and Root thats the problem no GUI at all thus no console08:47
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, with console I mean a text screen.08:48
IcemanV9chicken-man: Xorg fonts should be reside in /usr/share/X11/fonts .. see if there are any fonts08:48
White-WolfSoundray : yea black scree , white text08:48
White-Wolf*screen08:48
r3nd3zAnyone? Ubuntu stops loading after "enter" and some stuff's been loaded?08:48
sethkr3nd3z, the install cd?  the live cd?  Your installed system?08:49
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chicken-manIcemanV9: no fonts08:49
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, what do you get when you enter whoami ?08:49
Stormx2what other desktop environments are there except gnome, xfce, kde and the "box" family?08:49
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LinuxN00bieguys, what utility is good for cleaning up or defrag the memory in ubunut?08:50
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White-WolfSoundray : havent tryed it give me a second08:50
soundrayWhite-Wolf, can you do a 'ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and tell me what the permissions and owners are, something like '-rw-r--r--  1 root root'08:50
gnomefreakenlightenment ratpoison, and a few others that i cant remember off hand08:50
sethkLinuxN00bie, no need to defrag anything08:50
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theCoreStormx2: none08:50
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Zedughchicken-man, x-window-system-core will install the fonts08:50
Stormx2theCore: nevermind, I've just found out about ion, pekwm, wmii08:51
medw1974sorry to keep asking...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?08:51
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LinuxN00biesethk, how bout clearing the cache?08:51
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LinuxN00biei mean how to clear the cache?08:51
fredforfaen!hardware08:51
ubotuhmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:51
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theCoretheCore: there are windows managers, not desktop env.08:51
White-WolfSoundray : Root08:51
PinToTTFN08:51
sethkLinuxN00bie, which cache?  the web browser cache?08:51
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ppatricehow may i install a package like http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver without Synaptic because must be command mode08:51
LinuxN00biesethk, memory cache08:51
theCoreStormx2: those are windows managers, not desktop env.08:51
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sethkLinuxN00bie, that makes no sense.08:52
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, now what do you get from 'ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log' ?08:52
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sethkLinuxN00bie, there is no memory cache.  there is swap memory, but you don't do anything with that, the O/S manages it08:52
enlacesChile08:52
LinuxN00biesethk, Memory: 94% in use of which 68% is cache08:52
Stormx2theCore: eek08:52
sethkLinuxN00bie, so?08:52
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Zedughchicken-man, IcemanV9, it looks like x-window-system-core is the big daddy package with dependencies for xorg-common, fonts, xbase-clients, xutils, etc08:52
sethkLinuxN00bie, by the way, that figure doesn't mean anything, but even if it did, so?08:52
LinuxN00biesethk, so what's this cahce?08:52
gnomefreakLinuxN00bie,  how much ram do you have?08:52
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LinuxN00bie*cache08:53
sethkLinuxN00bie, I have no idea.  where are you reading?08:53
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LinuxN00biegnomefreak 512MB08:53
sethkLinuxN00bie, use top to get a state of the system08:53
ppatricecan somebody help me08:53
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ppatricehow may i install a package like http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver without Synaptic because must be command mode08:53
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theCoreppatrice: aptitude08:53
soundrayppatrice, try aptitude08:54
LinuxN00biesethk add system monitor to the gnome panel then in the preferences configure it to monitor the memory08:54
ppatricehow?08:54
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yhwho decides on the crazy code names of ubuntu releases?08:54
sethkLinuxN00bie, as I said, that number is meaningless.  The o/s manages memory.  You don't do anything directly to it.08:54
Zedughppatrice, in a console, type "aptitude" ( or try dselect )08:55
LinuxN00biesethk, hmm08:55
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maneyppatrice: apt-get --install fglrx08:55
gnomefreakis that guide an office guide and for what ubuntu? (breezy,hoary)?08:55
gnomefreakofficial*08:55
ppatricemaney tks i think that's what i need08:55
White-WolfSoundray : i get '-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15112 2005-11-23 19:35 /var/log/Xorg.0.log'08:55
r3nd3z^anyone able to help me? Linux stops loading after the boot screen?08:55
maney(personally I love aptitude, and use it by preference, but for one package...)08:55
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Zedughppatrice, yes maney, but sudo apt-get install ...08:55
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LinuxN00bieoooo gotta restart08:55
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sethkr3nd3z^, if you ignore questions, who can help you?08:55
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r3nd3z^i pinged out, sorry, try again08:56
gnomefreak!ubuntu guide08:56
ubotugnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?08:56
ppatricekay brb08:56
maneyZedugh: right, sudo if you aren't there already.  "sudo su -", usually, me08:56
soundrayWhite-Wolf, okay, now do a 'cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and see if the trailing lines make sense to you.08:56
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gnomefreak!guide08:56
ubotusomebody said guide was at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot_guide.html08:56
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White-WolfSoundray : ok08:56
sethkr3nd3z^, what are you talking about?  are you booting the install cd, the live cd, or an installed system?08:56
naliothmaney: sudo su is redundant. sudo -i  is the preferred method08:56
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Zedughmaney, right, but for ppatrice....08:56
naliothgnomefreak: what are you after?08:56
maneyZedugh: yes08:57
teddWell08:57
teddI got Ubuntu workin'!08:57
maneynalioth: preferences are like standards: we can each have one or more  :-)08:57
gnomefreaknalioth,  i wanted to know if that was an officail guide08:57
Zedughcongrats tedd08:57
teddAnd it is beautiful.08:57
Stormx2remind me how to remove a dir with rm?08:57
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Stormx2there are a couple of options I need08:57
teddANd I'm outta here. Thanks for all of the help guys!08:57
sethkStormx2, rm -fr, although you should use rmdir08:57
Zedughstormx2 "rm -rf dirname"08:57
r3nd3z^sethk: Im trying to install ubuntu with the install CD, comes to the Ubuntu logo screen, i press "enter" and some loading starts, but after 10 sec or so, nothing. nada.08:57
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naliothgnomefreak: ubuntuguide is not official and can break ubuntu boxes08:58
gnomefreaknalioth,  this guide http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver08:58
sethkr3nd3z^, use the boot argument that tells it to use standard vga only08:58
maneyhas anyone heard of a fix for the Firefox printing problem?  #10293, 18572, etc.08:58
Zedughya, rm -rf xyz, mistype and you delete who knows what08:58
naliothmaney: yes, but let's stick to the ubuntu playbook while giving advice in #ubuntu please08:58
White-WolfSoundray : there is a _LOT_of text and it goes too fast for me to see any of it08:58
sethkr3nd3z^, F1 will tell you what the other function keys do.  One is arguments for special machines08:58
maneynalioth: sorry, they didn't send me a copy08:58
naliothmaney: help.ubuntu.com08:58
sethkr3nd3z^, there is only one argument with "vga" in it.  I don't remember the exact name but you'll see it08:58
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, is anything in the *trailing lines* that makes sense, like "no pointer found" or something?08:58
trappistmaney: you might try #firefox on irc.mozilla.org08:59
naliothgnomefreak: help.ubuntu.com is Official08:59
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r3nd3z^sethk, ah, okey, i'll try that.. thanks08:59
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maneynalioth: I shall rely on you to correct any trivial deviations I might utter, then08:59
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gnomefreakthank you nalioth08:59
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naliothmaney: ubuntu is not debian, and 'trivial (to debian) deviations" are not so trivial here08:59
maneytrappist: nah, I know they're going to fix it someday.  And it should be gone by Dapper08:59
soundrayWhite-Wolf, X writes a lot of stuff in the log, but we're interested in what happened when it failed. That's usually the last entry.09:00
maneynalioth: that would nearly make sense if what i said didn't work09:00
joft_is_malfuncthi, I just tried to upgrade to breezy on my dell 5150 notebook. after the upgrade it does the "I cannot start the X server" thing, and freezes completely on that screen. whenever I try to boot into single user mode it asks for the root password, but there is no root password that I know of (ubuntu doesn't use one, right?) and when I hit ctrl+d to continue it just starts trying to load X again and explodes09:00
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jofthi, I just tried to upgrade to breezy on my dell 5150 notebook. after the upgrade it does the "I cannot start the X server" thing, and freezes completely on that screen. whenever I try to boot into single user mode it asks for the root password, but there is no root password that I know of (ubuntu doesn't use one, right?) and when I hit ctrl+d to continue it just starts trying to load X again and explodes09:01
White-WolfSoundray : the only bit is "Fatal Server Error : No Screens Found"09:01
sethkjoft_is_malfunct, ubuntu does use a root password.  if you do expert install you will get a chance to set it.09:01
trappistmaney: I know, I can't believe ubuntu still has bugs.  I mean, it's been around for MONTHS.09:01
sethkjoft, in the regular install you set the root password with sudo passwd09:01
sethkjoft, so if you are upgrading you should have a root password09:01
r3nd3z^sethk, great! it worked ;)09:01
soundrayWhite-Wolf, what video card do you have?09:02
sethkr3nd3z^, good  :)09:02
maneytrappist: well, that one was discussed back before the first release, and I thought it was considered worth fixing09:02
maneynot that I've had occasion to find out09:02
sethkjoft, to get out of the fix you are in, you can boot the cd in rescue mode and set the root password09:02
r3nd3z^sethk, thanks, owe you one09:02
White-WolfSoundray : ATI Radeon 9200SE09:02
jofti'll try09:02
Zedughjoft, after it "explodes" are you left in a console? can you Alt-F2 to a console?09:02
White-WolfSoundray : i dont think my Intel Graphics is connected09:03
White-Wolf*are09:03
sethkWhite-Wolf, is, actually09:03
sethkWhite-Wolf, there is only one09:03
White-Wolflol09:03
jofti'm left on the "I cannot start the X server" window, frozen09:03
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sethkjoft, you'll have to use the cd in rescue mode09:03
trappistWhite-Wolf: you had it right the first time09:03
sethkjoft, hey didn't I just say that?09:03
White-WolfAH YOU ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM AS ME JOLT!!09:04
joftyes, it's what i'm doing09:04
soundrayWhite-Wolf, have you installed the fglrx stuff?09:04
White-WolfSoundray: no09:04
zenlunaticmy mouse froze how can i restart it?09:04
soundrayubotu: tell White-Wolf about ati09:04
zenlunaticeven restarting x doesn't fix my mouse09:04
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, you need to follow the instructions for ATI cards. Ubotu sent you a message.09:05
ppatricemaney09:05
ppatriceit cant be install09:05
ppatriceapt-get --install fglrx09:05
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Zedughjoft, after lock-up, you could try Ctrl-C or Alt-F2 to get a console09:05
ppatriceE:command --install09:06
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ppatricejoft i have the same problem09:06
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White-WolfSoundray: what language does he speak?09:06
ppatricesoundray send me that to please09:07
soundray!tell ppatrice about ati09:07
groutsd09:07
ppatricetks09:07
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soundrayWhite-Wolf, url :)09:08
brianjI have a quick question: I'm running the Ubuntu server version that came out shortly afte Breezy.  When I apt-get upgrade, it says 2 packages have been held back.  One is kernel, one is kernel headers.  Anyone know how to get this working?09:08
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andcorhey09:09
andcorsomeone knows latex ??09:09
soundrayandcor, a bit09:10
andcori've just installed ubuntu and tetex09:10
andcorbut the tetex won't import my eps graphics as miktex does09:10
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andcorhow can that be ??09:11
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soundrayandcor, are you running latex or pdflatex?09:11
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andcorlatex09:11
joftok, i'm in recovery mode now09:11
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joftdo i need to dpkg-reconfigure x?09:11
andcorif I run pdflatex, it certainly won't include them09:12
slideHow do i mount a floppy using nautilus?09:12
soundrayandcor, in your preamble, do you have \usepackage{graphicx} ?09:12
andcoryes09:12
xophErhow can i install fam? When I try to install this package using apt, it wants to remove, well everything.. And I really dont want that..09:12
soundraysoundray, is your .eps in the same directory as your .tex ?09:12
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Zedughjoft, have you got fglrx installed? and what is in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your video driver?09:13
trappistxophEr: wow, you're right.  that's lame.09:13
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andcorif i use latex it can find out how big the graphic is, but it won't if i use pdflatex09:13
trappistAfter unpacking 1134MB disk space will be freed.09:13
felipe_Hello, anyone here familiar with freenx? Im conected right know throught freenx to this pc, although I have a few minor problems, first the keyboard layout change, second the icons I chose in themes, wont load, and the only part of the theme that works right is the metacity part...any ideas on whats wrong_09:13
xophEr:)09:13
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joftnvidia driver09:14
joftwhat's fglrx?09:14
Zedughjoft, what kind of video card do you have (fglrx is for ati cards)09:14
maneyppatrice: sorry, my bad.  apt-get doesn't use --, it's just "apt-get install <packages>"09:14
soundrayandcor, you should convert your eps to pdf before running pdflatex09:14
joftnvidia09:14
joftit was working fine on breezy09:14
andcorok09:14
jofton hoary I mean09:14
joftI upgraded to breezy and it started doing this09:15
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andcorbut, shouldn't latex be able to use eps ??09:15
soundrayjoft, what architecture are you using?09:15
joft68609:15
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sethkjoft, you probably just have to reinstall the nvidia modules.  that's normal whenever you use a new or different kernel09:15
Zedughjoft, do "lsmod | grep nvidia" to see if the nvidia kernel module is loaded09:15
soundrayandcor, it should, but the kind of trouble you have I have solved by converting my eps's separately.09:15
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andcorok09:16
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Stormx2aaahh09:16
andcorhow do i convert it to pdf ??09:16
joftit's loaded09:16
Stormx2sweet sweet gtk209:16
Stormx2how i've missed you09:16
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soundrayjoft, have you got linux-restricted-modules-686 installed?09:16
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jofter, no09:17
earthenwondering if some one knows where i can find samba swat for Ubuntu6409:17
joftgetting them now09:17
carstenhi, i have a fresh kubuntu install, and everytime i use konqueror, the windows look somewhat destroyes09:17
soundrayearthen, apt-get install swat ?09:17
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sethkcarsten, are you getting little lines and dots on the window?09:18
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carstenlines, not so little09:18
sethkcarsten, see if the behavior changes with a different font.09:18
earthensoundray, it's says swat unavalinle09:18
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earthenunavalable09:18
sethkcarsten, I'm seeing that both in ubuntu and the latest slackware09:18
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joftshould i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:18
carstensethk: how can i change the font09:18
soundrayearthen, it's in universe.09:18
sethkcarsten, I forget exactly where it is in konqueror, but there are preferences hiding there somewhere.09:19
IRCMonkey999what is the best download manager for firefox+flashgot on ubuntu?09:19
sethkcarsten, or you can duplicate the behavior in konsole where it's straightforward to change fnts09:19
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earthensoundray,  I  have universe in my list09:20
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ZephA question from a first time ever on any Linux based system ever; How do i change ports for Ktorrent or BitTorrent. The site im using doesn't like the ports used.09:20
earthensoundray, could you post me your sources.list09:20
soundrayearthen, you need to enable universe.09:20
soundrayearthen, apt-get update ?09:20
earthensoundray,  yeah I did all that09:20
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joftwhat keyboard setting should I use in xorg configure for a dell laptop?09:21
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soundray!tell earthen about repositories09:21
naliothZeph: start your client using flags from here http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml09:21
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naliothearthen: enable multiverse, also09:21
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carstenhow can i make a screenshot of it?09:21
Zephnalioth;  Thanks! I'll give that a try.09:22
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cedric_is ubuntu the current, most popular debian X distro?09:22
Stormx2who cares, tis damn awesome ;-D09:22
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cedric_i care09:22
soundrayjoft, leave the defaults for a US keyboard.09:22
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cedric_but sure it is welldone09:22
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soundraycedric_, more popular than Mulroney.09:24
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earthennalioth, soundray  here's my sources list could you tell me if somethinf is missing http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/493109:24
carstenokay i have to restart now09:24
cedric_soundray pouhahahaha yah right!!!!!!09:24
brianjcedric_ distrowatch.com seems to suggest that's the case.09:24
cedric_nice one09:24
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cedric_how may i contribute09:24
Vincenthi, I have installed french language, with language selector, but how can I switch the translations and writing aids ?09:25
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joftis there any way to let ubuntu autodetect hardware, instead of me having to configure xorg?09:26
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Seveasjoft, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:26
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jofti did that, it's not automatic; it asks me a bunch of questions09:27
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joftquestions that i don't know the answers to :(09:27
soundrayearthen, looks right to me. Is swat still uninstallable?09:27
Seveasjoft, just take the defaults09:27
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asonjay99can anyone help me with mplayer and the w32 does or w/e it is09:27
Seveasthe defaults are what is auto-detected :)09:27
naliothubotu: tell asonjay99 about mplayer09:27
JeffreyfI tried the latest Debian and am having difficulties with the S3 Trio3D in my IBM 300GL.  It isn't supported by debian, but will it work with Ubuntu?09:27
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linux-new-ssi just installed ubuntu while installin it asked me to make a user and i did, but i dont remember it asked me for a root password, when i log as user it works when i log as root i can not09:28
_jasonubotu, tell linux-new-ss about root09:29
mark__root account is disabled, use sudo to run commands as root09:29
mark__or sudo su -09:29
EdZI'm having a problem installing Ubuntu 2.10. I've got as far as re-booting after installation, but starting up ubuntu after install there is a problem. I recieve the error "sh can't access tty; job control turned off". The live CD boots fine. (I'm installing to a second HDD, with windows on the first. using LILO as a bootloader)09:29
earthensoundray, yeah says swat not avalable09:29
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valentinamy msn doesnt work, what should i do?09:29
earthensoundray, are you sure that there is a version for 64 bit09:29
soundrayJeffreyf, you're likely to have the same trouble here and there.09:29
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Ueuecoyotlvalentina, what you _should_ do is start using Jabber instead but that's probably not what you _want_ :)09:30
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soundrayearthen, I just installed it here on amd6409:30
cedric_anyways have a great day,, *ubuntu owns!09:30
Jeffreyfsoundray:  I had it working at one point, but can't this time around.09:31
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Octaneim getting really hard crashes on my Kubuntu 5.10 and I think its because of an hdd with errors... whats the best way to check for? fsck -f when its read only?09:31
soundrayJeffreyf, tried both s3 and s3v drivers?09:31
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ZedughJeffreyf, the question is whether or not Xorg supports S3 Trio3D, look at http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/09:32
Blondewithbrainshi alll09:32
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linux-new-sshow do i make my pppoe to work guys09:32
Zedughjeffreyf, look under s3virge09:32
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d03boyis anyone else having major problems with the forums?09:33
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shadeofgreywhats the KDE equivelant to Totem?09:34
linux-new-sshow do i make my pppoe to work guys09:34
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d03boya) I cant log in and b) When I try to reset my password it says that I submitted my request more than 24 hours ago when it was only seconds ago09:34
earthensoundray,  ok I found it on my install cd09:34
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earthensoundray, I don't know why it's not picking it up off the new repo's09:34
JeffreyfZedugh:  I think this is the version I actually got to work.  It says it is supported.  Thanks!09:34
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soundrayearthen, is this the only package you have trouble with?09:35
dandelionhello09:35
linux-new-ssany help for me folks09:35
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zdennishey all09:35
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zdennisi am trying to upgrade to the linux-image-2.6.12-10-k709:36
zdennisbut it continually fails09:36
zdenniswhere should i start looking for failure poitns?09:36
carstenokay, everytime i start konqueror, after some seconds, my screen looks like http://www.carstenpohl.de/screenshot52AkVa.png09:36
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dandelionis it normal that neither .bashrc or .bash_profile nor .profile are sourced at gnome startup? They are sourced when you open a terminal, but gnome menus for instance can't make use of the updates $PATH... Am I missing something?09:36
Stormx2carsten: wow09:36
carsteni tried all different fonts in the konsole, but there was no problem at all.09:37
earthennever checked the others09:37
Stormx2carsten: X doesn't like you >.>09:37
carstenthe funny thing is: everything else works. after i start konqueror.... CRASH09:37
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IRCMonkey999the time in my system tray doesn't display a.m or p.m even in the 12 hr mode.... why?09:37
carstenis there any log i could check? to give you guys more info?09:37
earthensoundray, I never look for anything else today but befoer it was working fine na dit just downloaded some updates about 15 min's ago09:37
mcadoryzdennis: how are you updating?09:37
soundraydandelion, that is entirely normal.09:38
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dandelionsoundray: so how do I change my PATH in a way that gnome menus can understand?09:38
recon0does anyone know how to run sshd?09:38
zdennismcadory, "sudo apt-get install linux-image-yada yada yada"09:38
dandelionsoundray: is there some kind of .gnomerc ?09:38
JDahlcarsten, are you using restricted video drivers?09:38
zdennisrecon0, when you install the ssh server, it starts sshd up at boot time09:38
carstenJDahl:  how can i check that?09:39
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recon0zdennis, is there any way to start it manually?09:39
ppatricehow i edit xorg.conf?09:39
zdennisrecon0, if you want to start manually or restart then from a terminal you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"09:39
ppatrice!tell ppatrice about ati09:39
zdennisor use "restart" or "stop" in place of "start" if you want09:39
recon0ok09:39
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JDahlcarsten, probably you are not, then... you have to install them yourself.09:40
soundraydandelion, sorry, never come across this problem.09:40
carstenJDahl: its a normal Kubuntu 5.10 install 12 hrs. old. from the official DVD image09:40
carsteni just found out, that adept, and resizing adept results in the same error09:41
zdenniscarsten, you can strace konqueror and maybe that will help you figur eout while it is crashing09:41
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ppatricesoundray tell ubotu to say the site again09:41
carsteni have an geforce 6600GT PCI-X card. could that be the problem?09:41
ppatriceplease09:41
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soundray!tell ppatrice about ati09:41
carstenzdennis: how do i do that?09:41
marlunCan windows and linux exchange files through a fat32 partition?09:42
Stormx2ppatrice: /msg ubotu <word>09:42
zdenniscarsten, from terminal run "strace konqueror 2> log.txt"09:42
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soundrayppatrice, you can enter the same command yourself09:42
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Stormx2marlun: yup09:42
ppatricethanks09:42
BadMackTuckgood day all09:42
zdenniscarsten after it freezes, reboot, or kill X, and then run tail on the log.txt file from terminal09:42
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Stormx2BadMackTuck: g'day mate09:42
ppatriceand how  edit xorg.conf09:42
ppatricethe command09:42
zdenniscarsten, like "tail log.txt"09:42
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ppatriceto open ?09:42
Stormx2!xorg09:42
ubotumethinks xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:42
nubs0rCan anyone direct me to their sources.list?09:42
zdennisthen print the last few lines you see in here09:42
nubs0ri screwed mine up by accident09:42
marlunStormx2, I've got 2 harddrives, I've got windows on hda and linux on hdb, I've got a 10GB Fat32 partition on hda, how can I access it through linux?09:42
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zdennisnubs0r, sure give me one sec to post them09:42
zdennisnubs0r, you running breezy ?09:43
JDahlcarsten, I had similar problems with a geforce 6200 card. They came as the result of one upgrade, and disappeared with a new one a few days later. Have you done security updates/upgrades yet?09:43
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Stormx2!tell marlun about windowsdrives09:43
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Stormx2marlun: Check your messages from ubotu09:43
carstenzdennis:  sorry, i have to restart x, the screen just is broken09:43
nubs0rzdennis, yes i am09:43
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ppatriceStormx2 not like that09:43
marlunStormx2, thanks :)09:43
nubs0rzdennis, i tried to get one that had the marillate reps to get mplayer, cuz ic oudlnt find mplayer in the direct one09:43
carstenJDahl:  security upgrades ? no its a fresh kubuntu 5.10 install09:43
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ppatricelike in text09:44
carstenhow can i update my video driver?09:44
nubs0rcarsten, what chip do u have?09:44
joftwell, now i can boot and get to the command prompt, but x still doesn't work, even after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:44
ppatricehttp://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#configure09:44
carstennubs0r: geforce 6600GT09:44
JDahlcarsten, that CD was pressed a while ago... subsequent critical errors are upgraded with security upgrades09:44
nubs0rcarsten, is therea  need to update? does 3d acceleration work fine?09:45
ppatricei dont have that  /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:09:45
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carstenJDahl:  i downloaded the dvd from the server yesterday09:45
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zdennisnubs0r, http://blog.mktec.com/zdennis/linux/ubuntu_breezy_basic_sources_dot_list.rdoc09:45
carstennubs0r: my screen looks like http://www.carstenpohl.de/screenshot52AkVa.png after some minutes09:45
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BadMackTuckyou can get the nvidia drivers direct from the repository09:46
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BadMackTuckthat was how i did it the other day09:46
zdenniscarsten, you have a nvidia card?09:46
nubs0rzdennis, thanks09:46
JDahlcarsten, the binary images were frozen on release date - upgrades are incremental over the internet09:46
zdennisnubs0r, np09:46
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BadMackTuckim trying to remember the last command...09:46
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carstenzdennis:  yes i have an geforce 6600 GT09:46
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ppatricehow can i edit xorg.conf adding http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#configure09:47
ppatrice??09:47
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carstenJDahl:  what do i have to do to upgrade?09:47
zdennisah, I have a geforce 5200 fx, do you want to try to install the nvidia binaries from their site?09:47
Ethanubot, realplayer?09:47
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medw1974Hi...can anyone help...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?09:47
JDahlcarsten, use "synaptic" somewhere from the menus, enable "security updates", and upgrade09:47
LjL!realplayer09:48
ubotufrom memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:48
Ethan:D09:48
zdennisppatrice, you are just asking how to open your xorg.conf file so you can edit it?09:48
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carstenzdennis: the log file is 2,6 MB in size !09:48
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zdenniscarsten, yeah, that's why you tail it =) so you don't have to let your screen scroll for hours09:48
gar-hi can any one help me try to setup the DWL-G122 usb wireless adapter on ubuntu i can see the device but noting on the network part can anyone know???09:48
ppatricezdennis yes09:48
minyalielAnyone know if it's possible to tweak the look of the gnome panel? Grey doesn't go with the rest of my black/ reddish theme :P09:49
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zdennisppatrice, open a terminal, and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak ; sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"09:49
joftok, when I used "nvidia-glx-config enable" it makes it so my computer completely freezes when it tries to load X. if i do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it still can't load X but it doesn't freeze at least09:49
zdennisthat way if you screw it up you have a backup to09:49
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ppatriceyes thanks but can't be gedit... because i can't use that09:50
gar-anyone know how to setup the d-link DWLG122 USB wireless adapter please let me know thanks....09:50
ppatricei got problems with ATI drivers09:50
LjLppatrice: nano or whatever will do09:50
zdennisppatrice, ok , repalce "gedit" with "nano"09:50
nubs0rppatrice, me too man09:50
WengOkay, so I'm setting up a preseed configuration file for network installation. This means that everything in that configuration file pertaining to the network is ignored and that all my settings have to be conveyed either via DHCP or a kernel APPEND item in syslinux. However, I'm hitting two relatively annoying problems. It still asks me to confirm the hostname provided by DHCP, and it keeps complaining that it can't find a default route, 09:50
ppatricekay thanks09:50
nubs0rI get problems when i replace radeon in xorg.conf with fglrx09:50
robotgeekgar-: i think you might need to use ndiswrapper09:50
nubs0rX doesnt even boot it just hangs09:50
gar-i try but dont install get some nasty error09:50
carstenJDahl: i cant find synaptic, did you men "adept"?09:50
gar-i can see the devices09:51
linux-new-sshow do u edit resolv.conf is it edit resolv.conf or how09:51
gar-device of the usb wireless but notting come up09:51
zdenniscarsten, in Gnome synaptic is at "System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager09:51
wartyim trying to do some rescueing from my ubuntu live cd. I wanted to know how i can mount my scsi drive that has a windows partition to a folder i made (/windows)?09:51
LjLlinux-new-ss: "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" or "sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf" or "sudo kate /etc/resolv.conf"09:51
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carstenzdennis: oh , i see the problem i have KDE here.09:51
zdennisoh ,heh09:51
JDahlcarsten, oh yeah - you're using KDE - then I dont know. I normally use the command line anyway, but that'll probably be hard for you09:51
darkgamer20im trying to do some rescueing from my ubuntu live cd. I wanted to know how i can mount my scsi drive that has a windows partition to a folder i made (/windows)?09:51
zdenniscarsten, r u running Ubuntu with KDE , or Kubuntu?09:52
carstenzdennis: Kubunut09:52
LjLnot that there would really be a difference...09:52
zdenniscarsten, what does "tail log.txt" look like?09:52
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LjLdarkgamer20: sudo mount [-t ntfs]  /dev/hdXX /mnt/somewhere09:52
linux-new-ssto fire up pppoe i just do pppoeconf LjL ?09:53
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LjLdarkgamer20: or, being SCSI, it will more likely be /dev/sdsomething or somesuch09:53
marlunWhat is tha package I need to add the menuitem "Disks" in "System > Administration > Disks"?09:53
darkgamer20LjL, thanks09:53
minyalielanybody know how to tweak the gnome panel? *still hopeful*09:53
LjLlinux-new-ss: no idea, i'm not using pppoe09:53
gar-im running ubuntu 5.04 want to update but without network i cant i have a dlink DWL-g122 usb adapter for wireless connection the system detect and i can see it on the devices but it wound start or even the light come up any idea how to fix that????09:53
moiReeehey, what about the mirrors? i get for several packages a 404 not found error09:53
zdennisdarkgamer20, look at your dmesg, to see what drives it recognized that will help you figure out what /dev/sd<something> to look for09:53
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zdennisminyaliel, i dont know09:54
robotgeekubotu: tell gar- about ndiswrapper09:54
carstenzdennis: i think it is not broken it is not the kkkonquerors fault i think09:54
minyalieldangit :P well ok09:54
zdennisok , that probably is true, i just looked at your screenshot you postd above09:54
bubblenutI recently upgraded to breezy and now I can't watch video, what do I have to do to solve this?09:54
carstenzdennis: every window that i move produces that error09:54
gfishhow do i get it so i can use xmms and sound at the same time09:54
IRCMonkey999i cant see am/pm in my gnome system tray clock . :(09:54
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JDahlbubblenut, probably install gstreamer0.8-xxx09:55
zdenniscarsten, are you using Ubuntu stock nv drivers or did you compile your own nvidia drivers?09:55
darkgamer20zdennis: thanks, dmesg looks very long.09:55
carstenzdennis: stock drivers. i didnt change anything. a fresh install09:55
IRCMonkey999what is the best download manager for firefox+flashgot on ubuntu?09:55
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Octaneim getting really hard crashes on my Kubuntu 5.10 and I think its because of an hdd with errors... whats the best way to check for? fsck -f when its read only?09:56
zdenniscarsten, one monitor, or multiple monitor setuP/09:56
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darkgamer20LjL, one problem. when i mount it to a directory, i try to cd to it, and it shows that permission is denied09:56
zdennisdarkgamer20, it is =)09:57
LjLdarkgamer20: that's normal, if you're using ntfs. either read it as root, or do what ubotu says09:57
LjL!tell darkgamer20 about ntfs09:57
zdennisdarkgamer20, write support is experimental, and ifyou dont have it enabled in your kernel, then it will be readonly09:57
carstenzdennis: one analoge monitor, but the card has an anlogue and an dvi jack09:57
zdenniscarsten, ok. Just wanted to rule out any multiple monitor configuration issues09:58
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(LjL/#ubuntu) darkgamer20: "sudo nautilus /mnt/windows" (or whatever you've mounted it to) or "sudo konqueror /mnt/windows" might be useful09:59
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(zdennis/#ubuntu) darkgamer20, you can enable root access if you want, by doing a 'sudo passwd' and then typing in a password, then just 'su' to get to root. If you dont want to type "sudo" everytime09:59
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(osh/#ubuntu) moiReee: Yes, there is a default gateway I think. "route" displays something called "default" anyway.09:59
(ppatrice/#ubuntu) zdennis how i savw now? ctrl*o09:59
(ppatrice/#ubuntu) ?09:59
(zdennis/#ubuntu) darkgamer20, normally i wouldn't say that, but since you're boo t on a live cd it tis probably ok10:00
(LjL/#ubuntu) zdennis: that's quite useless, as there's no reason to have to type "sudo" everytime10:00
(carsten/#ubuntu) ii nvidia-kernel-common 1.0.7667+1 NVI DIA binary kernel module common files10:00
(LjL/#ubuntu) zdennis: just type "sudo -i"10:00
(moiReee/#ubuntu) osh: no, there must be an extra route to localhost10:00
(zdennis/#ubuntu) ppatrice, yep, Ctrl-o to save and Ctrl-x to exit10:00
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(ppatrice/#ubuntu) yes i did t10:00
(osh/#ubuntu) moiReee: Ah. "route add -net 127.0.0.0 eth0"?10:00
(LjL/#ubuntu) darkgamer20: type "sudo -i" if you want to stay root10:00
(zdennis/#ubuntu) i didn't know about 'i'. It isn't in my man page. =(10:00
(ppatrice/#ubuntu) now stop and restart X server10:00
(ppatrice/#ubuntu) can you tell me how?10:00
(LjL/#ubuntu) zdennis: "sudo su" would be similar10:00
(zdennis/#ubuntu) oh wait LjL , it is10:00
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zdennisvery cool LjL, thx for that tip, that is going to save me some typing =)10:01
darkgamer20LjL and zdennis: i got it all i had to do was mount the partition with ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000. thanks you for you time and help10:01
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ppatricezdennis ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x server right?10:01
zdennisppatrice, yeah10:01
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carstenzdennis: nvidia-kernel-common10:01
moiReeeosh: do you have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for lo?10:01
oshmoiReee: Erm... but looking at another box there isn't a route for "localhost".10:02
LjLzdennis: also look in ~/.bashrc, you will find some stuff that's commented out there, that can (among other things) enable auto-completion after "sudo" has been typed10:02
JairunCalothI need to give my self acces to a secondary hdd on my system10:02
zdenniscarsten, try to install nvidia-glx package10:02
shadeofgreywhats the KDE equivelant of totem?10:02
shadeofgreythe movie player?10:02
moiReeeosh: forget about the route, my fault, look at /etc/network/interfaces10:02
LjLshadeofgrey: kaffeine, in kubuntu10:02
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EdZI'm having a problem running Ubuntu 2.10 after installing. I can install it fine, but after removing the disc and re-booting, It starts to load but I then recieve the message:10:02
EdZsh can't acces tty; job control turned off10:02
EdZI've tried with the live CD (both x86, both 2.10), and the live CD boots fine. Ubuntu is installed on a second drive (totally separate, not just a partition) with windows on the first drive. with LILO as the bootloader, installed to the same drive as Ubuntu (I'm wary of putting GRUB or LILO onto the same drive as windows, and last time i tried that it caused some big problems with the MBR).10:02
carstenzdennis: i am currently updating kubuntu in a second console, will that interfere?10:02
moiReeezdennis: this package i can not upgrade from the ubuntu repos10:02
zdenniscarsten yeah you'll have to wait10:03
oshmoiReee: What am I looking for in "interfaces"?10:03
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moiReeeosh: there must be entries for lo (localhost)10:03
moiReeeor try ifconfig10:03
zdennismoiree, you lost me for a sec.... what package can't you upgrade?10:03
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moiReeezdennis: nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-... and some more10:04
TokenBadok someone help me with proftpd?10:04
zdenniscarsten, with nvidia, i find that the steps of getting X to be good, is "try stock drivers, try nvidia-glx, try nvidia-glx-legacy, compile your own binary"10:04
moiReeelinux-386, linux-686 etc10:04
oshmoiReee: there is an entry for lo. 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.010:04
carstenzdennis: but could you please tell me what command i have to enter for updateing to nvidia-glx ?10:04
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zdenniscarsten, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"10:05
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carstenzdennis: is it correct that i currently use "stock drivers"?10:05
zdenniscarsten, yeah10:05
moiReeeosh: loopback?10:05
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zdennismoiReee, what does it say when you try to install nvidia-glx ?10:05
janopotterholas10:05
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oshmoiReee: Yep.10:05
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moiReeezdennis: it is installed, aptitude wants to upgrade this, but i get a 404 not found error10:06
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marshAnyone have usb2 issues? ubuntu was installed with the card in the machine, but it's very slow. how do I find out if it's running as a usb1?10:06
janopotterjoin #arica10:06
dv_hi10:06
rixthBargh. Maths exam today,10:06
dv_I called "apt-get install qt3-examples"10:06
dv_but now it doesnt tell me where the examples are?!10:06
dv_how can I find this out?10:06
dv_apt-cache show qt3-examples says nothing10:06
TokenBadI installed proftpd...but its acting like inetd isn't installed nor xinetd...and it says can't start in standalone..anyone help?10:06
moiReeeosh: what does traceroute localhost say?10:06
gfishhow do i use xmms and sounds at once10:06
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LjLdv_: dpkg -L qt3-examples10:07
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dv_in doc?!10:07
dv_how counter-intuitive..10:07
dv_but thanks10:07
janopottersorry always spak in english10:07
oshmoiReee: That it goes out to my default gateway, and stops there.10:07
zdennismoiReee, some repositories in your sources.list file may not be up at the moment. Have you added custom repositories?10:08
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moiReeeosh: is your subnet mask correct?10:08
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oshmoiReee: on loopback it's 255.0.0.0 on wlan0 it's 255.255.255.010:08
ppatricezdennis finaly i entered in ubuntu10:08
moiReeezdennis: no10:08
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joftfor a dell laptop should I use nvidia IA64 or AMD64 drivers?10:09
ppatriceput my pass and doesn't pass from there10:09
ppatricelol10:09
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marlunIs there a way to see what partitions I've got on my hda from the terminal?10:09
kevogodjoft, It is most certainly not IA64.10:09
zdennisppatrice, so it worked?10:09
moiReeeosh: check your route entries10:09
zdennisppatrice, how you wanted it to?10:09
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osh192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan010:10
oshdefault         192.168.0.50    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan010:10
carstenzdennis: thanks for the help, i will reboot now. hope to be right back10:10
kevogodjoft, Are you sure your Dell laptop is 64-bit?10:10
moiReeezdennis: i am using the ubuntu mirrors, debian and artfiles.org10:10
joftno10:10
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phin3asosh, is there a problem?10:10
luisitonalioth, thanks for the dvdrip, it worked excellent! :D10:10
ppatricei entered... i never entered in linux in this pc because says it can't open the graphic interface... now that i resolve that problem it doesn't enter in linux..  put my pass but and than it stay there... only see the mouse coursor10:10
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kevogodjoft, You most likely want the i386 version.10:11
NoUsemoiReee, you shouldn't mix debian and ubuntu mirrors10:11
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oshphin3as: I can't ping localhost. It goes out to my default gateway and doesn't find 127.0.0.1 there (obviously).10:11
LjLmoiReee: you shouldn't USE debian mirrors, unless you know what you're doing extremely well10:11
kevogodjoft, PC (Intel x86) install CD10:11
janopotterhi10:11
BadMackTuckhi janopotter10:11
moiReeeLjL: hmmmkey, i will remove them10:11
joftso I should get the IA32 driver?10:11
phin3asosh, what sort of connection are you on?10:12
janopotteryou spak spanish10:12
TokenBadanyone please help me with proftpd? or at least tell me how to get it to at least register inetd or xinetd?10:12
kevogodjoft, Most likely10:12
zdennisppatrice, you just see a gray background and your mouse pointer?10:12
davroHow can i get a remote desktop X session to another ubuntu machine, not vnc10:12
oshphin3as: wireless. on this laptop.10:12
BadMackTuckjanopotter: sorry no spanish from me10:13
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[Pygi(n=chatzill@83-131-246-91.adsl.net.t-com.hr)] hi10:13
janopotteroh thank10:13
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LjL!es10:13
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:13
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janopottergracias10:13
ppatricezdennis yes... ubuntu brown background and my mouse10:13
zdennisjoft, yes you want the IA32 drivers10:13
ppatricebut i got an ideia10:13
zdennisppatrice, k, let me know if it works then let me know what your idea was =)10:14
phin3asosh, I can't help you. I've never used a wireless connection, I'd however advise you to go http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/wifi10:14
ppatricezdennis i installed this from one program called "instlux" from network mode...10:14
zdennisppatrice, so i can make note of it in case anyone else has similar issue10:14
moiReeeLjL: no, debian servers removed but erros still existent10:14
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ubuntu_hay alguien que hable espaol10:14
LjLmoiReee: i didn't follow what was happening, dunno about the error10:14
LjL!es10:14
_jason!es10:14
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:14
janopotteryo10:14
oshphin3as: That shouldn't matter though. And the most annoying thing is that it worked a few days ago. :-/10:15
sabmann /msg nickserv set unfiltered on10:15
ubuntu_a vale10:15
osh192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan010:15
oshdefault         192.168.0.50    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan010:15
phin3asosh, oh.10:15
oshCrap. Sorry.10:15
ubuntu_me podrias ayudar10:15
moiReeeLjL: aptitude upgrade for several packages delivers 404 not found10:15
Seveas!es10:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:15
sabmann /msg nickserv link sabmann ouwe_ballenlap10:15
_jasonubuntu_, /join #ubuntu-es <-----habla espanol10:15
LjLmoiReee: did you "sudo aptitude update" first?10:15
Seveassabmann, /msg nickserv set password new_password10:15
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moiReeeLjL: several times :D10:15
phin3asosh, I wouldn't want to misdirect you. I've never run a wireless connection before.10:16
SeveasmoiReee, sudo aptitude update10:16
janopotterubuntu_ cambia a#ubuntu-es10:16
oshI might have done something stupid. I removed the hostname part from /etc/hosts so now sudo won't work. Is there some way to fix that without rebooting with the live-cd.10:16
LjLmoiReee: can you put your sources.list into the pastebin?10:16
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moiReeeLjL: bad idea, i have only console at the moment ;)10:16
Seveasosh, reboot into recovery mode10:16
ubuntu_bueno como se hace es la primera vez que ultilizo linux10:16
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LjLmoiReee: can you paste it to #flood then?10:16
Seveasubuntu_, this is an english channel10:16
Seveas!es10:16
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:16
oshphin3as: Right. Thanks anyway.10:16
moiReeeLjL: and i use my own apt-proxy too10:16
carstensudo apt-get nvidia-glx doesnt work10:17
LjLubuntu_, se hace escribiendo "/join #ubuntu-es"10:17
oshSeveas: That's on the install-cd?10:17
phin3asosh, possibly a reinstallation might do the trick?10:17
Seveasosh, on the installed system10:17
ubuntu_gracias10:17
moiReeeLjL: i will try with #flood10:17
phin3asosh, considering you think you did something you should'nt have.10:17
BadMackTuckcarsten: its sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx10:17
Seveasphin3as, reinstalling is too windows-minden :)10:17
oshSeveas: Oh, I'll have to test that now then. :-)10:17
moiReeebut apt-proxy.conf10:17
LjLmoiReee: oh you're using apt-proxy?10:17
moiReeeyes10:17
Seveasosh, good luck :)10:17
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ubuntu_"/join #ubuntu-es"10:18
carstenBadMackTuck: thank you10:18
phin3asSeveas, while that is true, it usually helps once in awhile :)10:18
n0dl help... how do i close a frozen program in XFCE or in term!10:18
phin3asSeveas, well it's more like "gentoo" minded. :p10:18
BadMackTuckno problem carsten10:18
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oshphin3as: I won't reinstall stuff I can fix. That's a windows solution. This is fixable. That's what I love about Linux. It's not always simple but it's (almost) always logical.10:18
LjLmoiReee: well then test all your reps using a web browser... if none 404, then you probably have an apt-proxy problem10:18
phin3asosh, you haven't run gentoo I suppose :p10:19
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n0dlwo;; somebody help me?10:19
Seveasphin3as, gentoo is almost as bad as windows10:19
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Coleosh: if you want to do somethign that requires root access. but you screwed up sudo.. you have to boot off of something else.. mount the hard drive.. and then change the file10:19
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oshphin3as: Yes, why do you ask. I got tired of it though.10:19
LjLSeveas: pffff10:19
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carsteni have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common installed. which one will be used?10:19
n0dlDOES anyone know?10:19
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ZeepOkay, my problem: At the place where I am now, there is no possibility of accessing the WWW at this time (I guess port 80 is locked down). Is there any possibility to get around this? thanks10:19
moiReeere10:20
moiReeeLjL: i have posted to flood10:20
Seveasn0dl, open a new terminal and use xkill10:20
zdenniscarsten, oops...sorry about that.... my mind skips words sometimes10:20
phin3asosh, the reinstallations and the compiling takes a whole lot out of you. Ubuntu has to be one of the most stable distro's in the market.10:20
Zedughn0dl, look around (in menus) for a pgm named xkill, or if you don't find it, open another term and type xkill, then your mouse cursor will change, whatever window you place the mouse cursor on, then right click, will be killed10:20
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SeveasmoiReee, don't IRC as root10:20
topyliCole: no. you can always boot to init1, ie. single user mode, ie. what ubuntu calls "rescue mode" with grub10:20
phin3asSeveas, do you run any other distros?10:20
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Seveasphin3as, yes, amongst which gentoo :)10:20
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carstenzdennis: no problem, but it looks like i hve both drivers installed now (twice the ii symbol) which one will be used?10:21
Zedughn0dl, oops, i meant left click10:21
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phin3asSeveas, :)10:21
Stormx2Seveas: lol ;-)10:21
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n0dlerr... i accidently killed one of my panels10:21
Coletopyli: lol i've neverused it. it doesn't require any password?10:21
joftwhere's the error log for xorg?10:21
n0dlhow do i restore it? (XFCE)10:21
zdenniscarsten, that's ok. give X a shot10:21
oxhi can anyone point me in the right direction? I have a dell inspiron 5100 with radeon 7500 graphic card, 15in xga display - I want 1400x1050 res and I can only get 1056X768 res.10:21
phin3asSeveas, other than ubuntu and gentoo, which others? out of curiousity.10:22
Zedughn0dl, try logging out and back in10:22
carstenzdennis: okay, thanks for the help, i will restart again10:22
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Seveasphin3as, FC4 at work (used to be red hat) and debian10:22
moiReeeLjL?10:22
topyliCole: it doesn't. if you have physical access to a linux box, you can take over very easily10:22
naliothubotu: tell ox about fixres10:22
LjLmoiReee: i'm not sure how apt-proxy works, but why do you have "ubuntu", "ubuntu-security" etc instead of "breezy", "breezy-security" etc? maybe they've valid synonyms, but i've never heard them before10:22
phin3asSeveas, :) that's satisfactory.10:22
tesoro:)10:22
huhmzHi. btlaunchmany complains "Too many open files", i google it and it suggested one should increase the number in /proc/sys/fs/file-max. However, i have done this but it still complains. What can I do?10:23
Seveasand a mini busybox-linux-uclibc setup in a router10:23
moiReeeLjL: they are only identifiers for sources.list10:23
phin3asI'm going to have to aquire dapper. I'm still running hoary..10:23
phin3asI'm thinking of making a distro eventually.10:23
moiReeeLjL: and it worked fine just to this upgrade today ...10:23
Coletopyli: i knew if you coudl boot off of soemthing else.. i guess i'm just so used to solaris where you can somewhat secure the box even if they have physical access.. making it so that it requires a password to boot off of anything but the main disk.. and single user mode requires you to log in10:23
Stormx2phin3as: Dapper is a little too unstable at the moment methinks10:23
zdennisis anyone here running linux-image 2.6.12-9-k7 ?10:23
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SeveasStormx2, he's a gentooist10:24
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Seveashe loves unstable10:24
phin3asHah10:24
Stormx2Seveas: hahaha10:24
zdennisi take that back, is anyone running linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7 ?10:24
LjLmoiReee: oh well, i dunno... the reps seem all perfectly valid at a quick look... why don't you trying without apt-proxy?10:24
topyliCole: you can configure grub to require a password. but who does? :-10:24
LjLzdennis: yes10:24
Seveaszdennis, I should be, but that machine is not yet upgraded :)10:24
ppatricezdennis i'm trying to download package GNOME with APTITUDE10:24
joftsince I upgraded to breezy, x window10:24
jofts does not work10:24
Stormx2ubuntu takes all the fun out of linux ;-)10:24
fsmwhi all!10:24
phin3asStormx2, surely you jest.10:25
fsmwis there a howto to setup an ubuntu mirror?10:25
SeveasStormx2, s/takes out/brings in/10:25
jofti have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i have tried reinstalling the latest nvidia drivers10:25
topyliStormx2: lol10:25
Seveasfsmw, ubuntu.com/download/mirror10:25
zdennisLjL, any issues upgrading to the 2.6.12-10-k7 package? I'm having difficulty upgrading.... i seem to have a circular dependency issue with linux-image-k710:25
BadMackTuckjoft: do you have the dri line in your xorg.conf file commented out?10:25
Stormx2Seveas: Whats with the s/something/something/ ?10:25
zdennisdpkg says the one depends on the other, but i can't install either because of that10:25
fsmwthanks Seveas10:25
moiReeeLjL: in sources.list, there it is only used the ubuntu backend10:25
Coletopyli: i guess im just a security nazi.. as i work in government.. and some of the security postures are a little tight.. right now i'm working on a set of scripts to try and make ubuntu compatible with the disa security template impementation guideless for unix/linux10:25
Stormx2Seveas: That one of the crazy irc things?10:25
LjLzdennis: no, i didn't have any special difficulty with it, but i do know others were having that sort of difficulties10:25
joftBadMackTuck: yes10:25
Seveasit means replace 'take out' with 'put in'10:25
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Stormx2ah ok10:26
SeveasStormx2, it's a regular expression thingie10:26
shutdownrunnerStormx2: gentoo is fun when you have more than 1 computer and don't have to use it for about 24 hours10:26
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huhmzWhere does one change the default ulimits?10:26
Seveaslearn sed/perl :)10:26
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phin3asSeveas, I'd like to ask, how does one become an ubuntu developer, or member?10:26
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Coletopyli: err guidelines not guideless10:26
Seveasphin3as, ubuntu.com/community/contribute10:26
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zdennisSeveas, learn sed... and if you want to remain sane, learn ruby10:26
Seveaszdennis, ruby and sane?10:26
carstenzdennis: i think all is fine now ! thank you really for your help. that is really appreciated10:26
topyliCole: if someone gets into my house, they could either crack the machine by booting to init 1, or by booting knoppix. what's the difference?10:26
LjLmoiReee: i don't know, really, it smells like an apt-proxy problem, and i never used it10:26
Seveasi'd say python comes closer :)10:26
phin3asSeveas, thanks.10:26
zdenniscarsten, np, i'm glad things are working!10:27
Stormx2I mean i've run FC4, but ubuntu is something else. Theres no fun in not sitting there wondering why the hell something isn't working! Ubuntu is linux with all the differculty taken out + a hostile takeover of gnome-look.org!10:27
moiReeeLjL: ok10:27
Zedughjoft, do you have 'Option          "RenderAccel"   "false"' in xorg.conf driver section?10:27
SeveasStormx2, isn't it great :))10:27
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Coletopyli: make it so that they can't boot off of anything but the preconfigured harddrive.. any changes to boot sequense require password.. plus use locks on your case10:27
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steviocan some one tell me how to delete directories in the terminal10:27
zdennisSeveas, sane as in sanity...where your mind stays in tact10:27
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Stormx2Seveas: Have you looked at that site?! about 90% of the new wallpapers submitted have ubuntu written on them!10:27
Seveasstevio, rmdir10:27
_jasonSteil, rm -r10:27
joftZedugh, the device section for the driver does not have that option10:27
shutdownrunnerStormx2: ubuntu is good if you want to have a rather stable desktop linux10:28
Seveaszdennis, that kept me away from ruby ;)10:28
topyliCole: bah. how hard is it to break a case and steal a hard drive?10:28
BadMackTuckjoft: then i have no idea why, i had the same problem you did but that fixed it =( sorry dude10:28
_jasonwhat is up with xchat completion :/10:28
shutdownrunnerStormx2: I have a 8GB partition for testing other distros. just from time to time10:28
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joftBadMackTuck: should i have not commented out the glcore module?10:28
Zedughstevio, rmdir will remove an empty directory10:28
BadMackTuckjoft: hmm, i didnt10:28
Coletopyli: eventually someone will get in and get access to the data.. you just got to give em hell trying to get there10:28
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BadMackTuckjoft: try uncommenting that10:28
topyliCole: right :)10:29
jofttrying10:29
navaroneIn Synaptic I can view installed files. It shows me the various kernels I have installed...like i386 and i686. If I uninstalll the 386 file will it delete all realtive files/modules etc and the vmlinux.bak and such?10:29
joftit shows the nvidia splash screen 3 times then goes to the "I cannot start the X server" wscreen10:29
Stormx2of the 10 latest wallpapers at gnome-look.org, 7 are ubuntu!10:29
topyliCole: right now i'm happy minding that they don't get in over the internet. otherwise, i don't people breaking in my house anyway =)10:29
Coletopyli: time is all you really need though.. as it only takes a little bit of time to issue revocation certificates for the certs on your machine that where comprimised. plus never store any data on your machine.. atleast in an unencrypted format10:29
Zedughjosh, do you have 'Option          "RenderAccel"   "false"' in you xorg.conf driver section10:29
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joftno10:30
Zedughjoft, well you should. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2910:30
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joftthis is my error: "Fatal server error: could not open the default font 'fixed';"10:30
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carstenzdennis: :( the problem still remains, i try the "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"10:30
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Zedughjoft, also from that page: after installing driver you must:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable10:31
navaronejoft> just curious...did you use server install or regular?10:31
joftregular10:31
LjLdoes one have to live with an nvidia splash screen on X when using an nvidia card with the binary driver? >:\10:31
navaroneok10:31
ZedughLjL, no, in xorg.conf driver section put: Option          "NoLogo"10:32
LjLZedugh: ah, that's good10:32
marcelromeroI nemm help on tha ubuntu 5.10 installation10:32
ZedughLjL, check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2910:32
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joftok wtf10:32
joftxfonts-base might not have been installed10:33
Seveasjoft, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:33
Seveasfontpaths changed in breezy10:33
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LjLZedugh: i don't have an nvidia card right now, just thinking about getting one... having a "compulsory" splash screen would have been a big con, tho ;)10:33
oshIt works better now. I'm almost embarassed to tell you what the problem was. Thanks for the help.10:33
marcelromeroon the first reboot of the installation the pc doesn find a boot drive. Can someone help me?10:33
Zedughjoft, do you have x-window-system-core installed? you need it for fonts and more10:33
Seveasjoft, and make sure you installed ubuntu-desktop10:34
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moiReeeLjL: it is very easy to kill this ugly splash screen from nvidia ;)10:34
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BadMackTuckmoiReee: its way more fun to change the splash screen10:35
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Zedughon the subject of nvidia cards, I upgraded to a 6600, then from hoary to breezy. using glxgears, the card is about 25% slower on breazy. any ideas?10:35
BadMackTuckmoiReee: especially if its someone elses box10:35
LjLgot enough splash screens already...10:35
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moiReeeBadMackTuck: yes :D10:35
gar-i installed ndiswrapper when i try to install the driver for my wireless usb say invalid driver and dont work i use sudo ndiswrapper -i NetRTUSB.inf noting happen any help???10:35
BadMackTuckLjL: you should wrap your screens in cellophane then10:36
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LjL...10:36
Zedughwhite-wolf, what kind of video card are you using?10:36
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moiReee5 numbers for version? wtf?10:36
gar-any one???10:36
gar-i installed ndiswrapper when i try to install the driver for my wireless usb say invalid driver and dont work i use sudo ndiswrapper -i NetRTUSB.inf noting happen any help???10:36
n0dldoes anyone know how to restore a panel or task bar in XFCE?10:36
moiReee2.6.12.16.110:37
n0dlbecause apparently  people at xubuntu have no idea10:37
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gar-i guess not10:37
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Zedughn0dl, did logout/login not restore it? killing it should not have changed your desktop configuration, it should come back after logout/login.10:37
n0dlok em try10:37
gar-do i need to get the correct windows drivers or something like that to make it work NetRTUSB.inf for the DWL G122 usb wireless adapter10:38
moiReee2.6.12 is the official version, right? 16 is the patch number and 1 is bugfix? *g10:38
huhmzDoes anybody know exatcly how ulimit works? Ive read the docs in bash but i can't seem to change the ulimit -n value (max open files)10:38
trappisthuhmz: /etc/security/limits.conf10:38
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huhmztrappist: thanks10:39
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Zedughhas anyone got an SBAWE32 sound card to work?10:39
gar-anyone know please10:39
n0dlyeah it changed my configuration10:39
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trappistZedugh: sudo sndconfig10:40
n0dldoes anyone know how to restore a taskbar in xfce?10:40
Zedughn0dl, well i don't have Xfce installed, not used it much, so there may be a way, but I dont know it10:40
gar-i bin trying to run my usb wireless adapter DWL-G122 from dlink i use ndiswrapper but i try like 20 drivers and keep saying invalid driver any clueeee10:40
trappistnm, ubuntu doesn't seem to ship with sndconfig10:40
joftnow x works but when it starts it gives me a popup window that just says "Xsession:" and has the OK button10:40
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moiReeebye10:40
Zedughjoft, install x-windows-system-core10:41
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lightbrighttrappist: there is no sound config with Ubuntu10:41
jofti did10:41
joftthat's what made X work10:41
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huhmztrappist: Do you know which script/program parses /etc/security/limits.conf ?10:41
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gar-Zedugh: can you help me?10:41
trappisthuhmz: I don't10:41
trappistlightbright: yeah I just noticed that10:41
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Xcercahey10:42
iamkirkok , i know someone here knows about msn messenger on ubuntu10:42
iamkirkout with it !!!!! :P10:42
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BadMackTuckiamkirk: GAIM10:42
trappistZedugh: try sudo modprobe sb10:42
Xcercayea,  gaim10:42
thompa-Ahow do i get rid of the older kernel entries in grub?10:42
iamkirkand where to get it ? :P10:42
iamkirk<== linux newb :P10:42
BadMackTuckiamkirk: should be installed by default10:42
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LjLthompa-A: think it does it automatically when you remove the old kernels...10:42
Zedughi havent used ndiswrapper, but have looked into it. everywhere i found info, there was none with ndiswrapper working with USB wireless, just internal10:43
Xcercaiamkirk   it is already installed10:43
LjLthompa-A: anyway, /boot/grub/menu.lst10:43
thompa-Aoh10:43
LjLthompa-A: careful10:43
Xcercaiamkirk  applications >internet>gaim10:43
topyliiamkirk: look at your menu10:43
gar-i need to trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks10:43
thompa-Acan i just remove them with synaptic?10:43
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LjLthompa-A: yes10:43
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LjLthompa-A: if you mean the old kernels10:43
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BadMackTuckits okay iamkirk dont be afraid to use the mouse10:43
LjLthompa-A: of course, do it *after* you're sure the new ones work10:44
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gar-Zedugh any idea of a program or driver that can run with wireless usb adapter???10:44
thompa-Ayes, thanks. i thought that an update would do it10:44
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SirGrokHey, I have two questions. I can not search mounted drived with my "locate" command anymore, and I used to be able to do so... What did I do?10:44
thompa-Aright thanks10:44
navaroneuninstalling kernel packages in synaptic will update grub in the process...?10:44
ZedughI can modprobe the driver, but (i've looked on alsa-project site) the options are not well documented. another problem is that the devices are not in the /dev filesystem, and udev doesnt put them there, so i get several "device not found" messages.10:44
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LjLthompa-A: upgrading doesn't remove the old kernels, as they're important as a fallback in case the updated ones don't work10:45
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trappistZedugh: if memory serves, the options are dma= and irq=10:45
thompa-Aok sounds good10:45
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robbietjuhhello all10:45
navaroneLjL> And the uninstall updates grub as well?10:45
SirGrokhello robbietjuh10:46
LjLnavarone: i thought so, but i wouldn't swear on it10:46
robbietjuhcan someone please give me a little help regarding a lan ip?10:46
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SirGrokWel, we can try10:46
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marlunWhats a good gui app for seeing all kinds of system information?10:46
marlunI found "Sysinfo" but it does not seem to be in the repositories.10:46
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navaroneLjL> does it remove the old vmlinux im and initdr as well?10:47
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SirGrokmarlun, what desktop are you running?10:47
robbietjuhi have in ubuntu server lan ip 10.0.0.152 but needs  to be *.151  where can i change that?10:47
carsteni have 6 kubuntu installs in the grub(?) start menu 3 of them are recovery. where can i see their differences?10:47
marlunSirGrok, gnome10:47
trappistcarsten: /boot/grub/menu.lst10:47
LjLnavarone: 'course, that's what the kernel *is*10:47
rob_probbietjuh:  /etc/network/interfaces10:47
robbietjuhthanks rob10:47
Zedughtrappist, there are 6-8 options, irq, dma8, dma18, game-port, midi-port, etc. Its on my kids dual boot machine, and windows gives me lots of i/o addresses, ports, dma, etc., but alsa's doc does not make it clear which module parm is for which value.10:48
joftfor some reason synaptic won't open for me, when I click on it nothing happens10:48
navaroneLjL> okie10:48
SirGrokmarlun,  Have you triec GNOME SYstem Manager?10:48
trappistZedugh: oh, alsa.  the sb module is an oss module.10:48
robbietjuhthere is no ip in10:48
joftactually, a lot of applications are doing the same thing; I click on them and nothing happens10:48
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MFenhi! how does sound work in totem, gnome, or xmms (for examples) when udev sets /dev/dsp and /dev/snd/* to mode 660?10:49
rob_probbietjuh:  Then I presume the interface you want to have that address is configured dynamically?10:49
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MFeni discovered on one machine that i had to set these devices to mode 666 to get any sound10:49
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SirGrokCan anyone tell me why my locate command doesn't scan my mounted devioces anymore?10:49
robbietjuhyes  its given by dhcp10:49
_wouterDoes anyone know how I can switch from gdm to kdm? I tried changing /etc/X11/default-display-manager but that doesn't work :(10:49
robbietjuhbut its the wrong10:49
guydebordmy girlfriend was just using my GNOME desktop and somehow changed the "minimize windows" so that now instead of tabs in the bottom panel, the windows disapear until you press Alt + Tab.  Anyone know how to change it back. The help section is useless10:49
trappistZedugh: try snd-sbawe10:49
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MFenhow is sound supposed to work when the permissions for the devices are wrong like this?10:49
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rob_probbietjuh:  If that's the case, you will need to configure the DHCP server to assign that particular IP to that box.10:49
ys76_wouter: try dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm10:49
marlunSirGrok, nope, going to try and find it in the repository (I've done a server-intall if you wonder why I don't allready have it, (if it's in the normal ubuntu install))10:49
psycho666how do i get info about an installed packge ?10:49
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nemikhello, i tried the samba instructions to get my computer to be seen by an XP box. the XP sees it, but cannot go into it. how can i fix this?10:50
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_wouterthanks ys7610:50
robbietjuhdamn,  thats alot work with al the ports to chage10:50
robbietjuhcnhange*10:50
SirGrokmarlun, I don't know if that is what you are looking for, but it lists all the running processes, system load (RAM, CPU, etc) and others10:50
gar-i trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks10:50
Zedughtrappist, i am using snd-sbawe, so i want to know 1) how to specify the parms correctly, and 2) if I do, will the modules generate the events to udev to create the devices, or should i whip up a script to mknod the devices and put it in rc.d/...10:50
rob_probbietjuh:  What is providing the DHCP service on your LAN?10:50
SirGrokpsycho666, check out synaptic's info for it...10:50
robbietjuhmy isp, then a modem/router with dhcp10:50
BadMackTuckspeaking of samba, how come when im transferring from a windows share its REALLY slow. like 230kBps...?10:50
marlunSirGrok, oh, hmmm, you mean System Monitor? (not manager)10:50
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marlunSirGrok,  :)10:51
BadMackTuckanyone else have that issue?10:51
joftI just upgraded to breezy and now my system hangs and won't even open some applications (xchat, synaptic, anything from the menubar)10:51
psycho666SirGrok : synaptic ?10:51
SirGrokmarlun,  Yeah, thats the one.10:51
Zedughjost, try opening a term and typing synaptic. you could see error message that way. if you cant even open an xterm, you have a very basic problem10:51
SirGrokpsycho666, as you can see, today is not my day. YYes10:51
rob_probbietjuh:  Well, some routers allow you to assign specific IP addresses based on the MAC address of the requesting client.10:51
Xcercaanybody not have any problems at all ?10:51
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robbietjuhoke  will look in that10:52
robbietjuhthanks rob10:52
BadMackTuckXcerca: those people dont hang out here10:52
SirGrokIs tehre any way to have program's sound indepedant from one another?10:52
joftthe error I got was "Segmentation fault"10:52
ZedughXcerca, no, this is reality.10:52
rob_probbietjuh:  If yours doesn't, then you will either have to use static IP addresses, or disable the DHCP server in the router and run a DHCP server on the linux box.  Anyway, good luck with it.10:52
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gar-i trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks10:53
robbietjuhhow can i assign a static ip then rob?10:53
usarHello, I installed updates in breezy and one of them included nvidia-glx-legacy(I have a tnt2 geforce) and now x doesn't load with the usual error when you driver doesn't work. What could be the problem?10:53
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lightbrightwho here uses gnomebaker?10:54
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usarlightbright: it's only baked coasters for me so far10:54
BadMackTuckusar: its only baked cake for me so far10:54
usarBadMackTuck: mmm, BUT what kind?10:55
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SirGroklightbright, use k3b. It is amazing.10:55
guydebordAnyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?10:55
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cigahi10:55
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BadMackTuckusar: mostly the kind with zuchinni in it10:55
Plus-V-duckylightbright, gnomebaker++10:55
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rob_probbietjuh:  Again, in your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can specify, "iface ethx inet static" and then make sure it has a static IP entry such as, "address 192.168.1.5".10:55
Plus-V-duckyYou might try graaveman too10:55
lightbrightyou saying that gnomebaker is no good?10:55
usarBadMackTuck: haven't had the pleasure yet10:55
cigawhen I was mounting my second loop device I got: 'mount: could not find any free loop device'. What can I do about it?10:56
Plus-V-duckyerr 'graaveman'10:56
lightbrightPlus-V-ducky: what you mean  gnomebaker++?10:56
BadMackTuckusar: too bad10:56
Plus-V-ducky++ = good good10:56
jbroomelightbright: that means it's good.10:56
linux-user-ubunti am on windows how do i make my pppoe internet connection to work on ubuntu10:56
joftso any idea why I would get "Segmentation fault" when I try to run applications? for some reason gaim started up fine, and so does any application that opens a file if I click the file, like xmms if I click an mp3, or openoffice if I click a document10:56
lightbrightusar: you saying that gnomebaker has never once burned something for you?10:56
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fkjesI have a question, I have a hard drive without grub on it (was installed on a different hard drive that died) so i booted from a live cd and ran sudo grub-install /dev/hda10:56
fkjesand i get this10:56
fkjes/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.10:56
joftbut other things like synaptic and xchat say "segmentation fault"10:56
lightbrighthow can gnomebaker be bad as it uses cdrecord same as k3b?10:56
SirGrokdoes anyone know the linux equivalent of "ipconfig -renew"?10:56
priichDoes anyone know if there is a nice apt package for modules (as in dynamic path managment) somewhere or must i compile it myself ?10:56
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Vincenthas anyone experienced display lag with ati proprietary drivers ???10:57
Vincentwith opengl apps10:57
robbietjuhRob_P  so it woule be  -> iface eth0 inet static 10.0.0.15110:58
Plus-V-duckyVincent,  yes aand I like to replace them with dri or gaaatos10:58
lightbrightif I want to format hdb , do I type: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb ?10:58
Plus-V-duckyerrrrr 'gatos'10:58
usarlightbright: one time it almost did, but the video file didn't have sound; I wasted maybe 10 CDs on Warty. k3b has been the safest route; I used gnomebaker and nautilus burner before back with other older distros too a couple times, k3b has been more reliable for _me_; the annoying thing is that I think there are a lot of KDE deps for k3b10:58
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iamkirkis there anywhere to download the msn messenger smoticon thingy :P10:58
SirGrokVincent, nope, but then again, I don't use them....10:58
linux-user-ubunti am on windows how do i make my pppoe internet connection to work on ubuntu10:58
gar-i trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks10:58
rob_probbietjuh:  No.10:58
sorush20why isn't my hda ext3 its ext2fs10:58
rob_probbietjuh:  You would want two lines...10:58
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lightbrightusar: how can gnomebaker be bad as it uses cdrecord same as k3b?10:59
lightbrightPlus-V-ducky: if I want to format hdb , do I type: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb ?10:59
rob_probbietjuh:  "iface eth0 inet static" on one line, and, "address 10.0.0.151" on another.10:59
robbietjuhthanks10:59
Plus-V-duckySirGrok, you can use ifup|ifdown or ipconfig [iface]  up|down10:59
sorush20why am I unable to run parted from the terminal konsole in kde?10:59
guydebordAnyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?10:59
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sorush20it just hangs.11:00
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SirGrokPlus-V-ducky, Thanks a lot.11:00
knubbeanyone who can recommend a nice cvs gui (its not a down-side if its similar to windows' "tortoise")11:00
Plus-V-duckylightbright yep -- asssuming you want to use the ext3 fs and the pt'n is already made11:00
lightbrightPlus-V-ducky: does the hdb have to be mounted OR unmounted first?11:00
SirGrokIs there any way to have program's sound indepedant from one another?11:00
trappistZedugh: it's been a hundred years since I had an awe32 card but I used sndconfig to do the magic.  ubuntu doesn't ship that, but they do ship isapnptools, so you should be able to download and compile sndconfig.11:00
usarlightbright: my guess has been that there are more options to those cdtools that I was able to mess around with in k3b that I didn't find i gnomebaker; I was told that there is an issue with those backends + the kernel that you have to configure; also, I was always recommended to run as root; however, I setup k3b to be reliable w/o root11:00
Plus-V-duckylightbright /dev/hdb1 actually11:00
Plus-V-duckylightbright, no11:00
Zedughgar-, try looking at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List11:00
sabmannthanks11:01
Plus-V-duckySirGrok, you must specify dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces though11:01
gar-Zedugh11:01
gar-i look all of that11:01
n0dlwhich package is the real mplayer?11:01
n0dl386 or 486?11:02
usarlightbright: that's just my experience with my cddrive, the maintainer (sebastian) of those tools says that no one else has had many problems like me11:02
trappistn0dl: choose based on your processor.  they're all 'real'.11:02
usarlightbright: maintainer for the frontend, I mean11:02
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trappistn0dl: don't get 386 unless you have a 386 :)11:02
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lightbrightusar: ok11:02
lightbrightPlus-V-ducky: does the hdb have to be unmounted first before formatting?11:03
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nicoalatheros wifi cards "just work" in breezy, right?11:03
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Zedughgar-, is your device a [D-Link]  DWL-122?11:03
trappistnicoal: iirc you need the madwifi drivers11:03
sethknicoal, mine do11:03
jmazaredois this correct, i want to prevent anyone to access others folder in /home   chmod go-rwx home11:03
Plus-V-duckyusar, it truly sux to be you, huh?11:03
Plus-V-ducky;-)11:03
sethktrappist, in breezy you no longer need to separately get madwifi11:03
SirGrokPlus-V-ducky, thanks, it is done. I will check it out later.11:03
trappistsethk: awesome11:03
nicoalsethk, rawk, thanks11:03
usarPlus-V-ducky: mmm, I still wish gnomebaker had more features : - P11:03
sethkjust did an install today on a lappy that had a disk crash, pure 5.10, found atheros right out of the box.  I was impressed11:04
gar-Zedugh yeah11:04
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rob_probbietjuh:  I should probably mention that you'll also need a few other directives in your /etc/network/interfaces file for that interface (such as gateway, etc.) if you're running it with a static configuration.11:04
gar-Zedugh [D-Link]  DWL-G12211:04
robbietjuhIs there a example website for this rob?11:05
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Zedughgar-: and you tried ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwl122/Driver?11:05
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Zedughoops, ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwl122/Driver11:05
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rob_probbietjuh:  Hold on a sec... I'll send an example to the pastebin...11:05
sethkrob_p, or he can use the dialog in network service and it will write the file for him11:05
toresndoes ubuntu support multiple consoles?11:05
robbietjuhits  a server sethk. txt based11:06
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sethkrobbietjuh, ok.11:06
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slew=] 11:06
PinTocould some 1 plz help me. i have extracted my source kernel into /usr/src but i cant "make xconfig"11:06
sethktoresn, I have a dual head box11:06
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gar-Zedugh yep11:06
Plus-V-duckyWell isar, look at the bright side -- you've become a v3c expert out of this11:06
Xcercaim havin hella trouble yo11:06
sethkPinTo, what happens?11:06
linux-user-ubunti am on windows how do i make my pppoe internet connection to work on ubuntu11:06
toresnsethk, ?11:06
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Xcercais anybody in an amd64 ?11:07
Xcercaon11:07
trappistor near one?11:07
sethktoresbe, if you mean virtual consoles, then yes to that also11:07
sethktoresn I mean11:07
Xcercatrappist did you ever have trouble getting your sound to work ?11:07
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sethkturesn, has six by default (virtual consoles)11:07
XTR-IIOh hi. How would I upgrade to Open Office 2 final?11:07
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guydebordAnyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?11:07
toresnsethk: ok, how do i switch between the six?11:07
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sethktoresn, control-alt-f1, control-alt-f2, etc11:08
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mifritscherhi11:08
rob_probbietjuh:  paste.ubuntulinux.nl/493411:08
lightbrightusar: ok thanks for your feedback11:08
PinTonothin sethk...but when i make menuconfig i get u need libsucures.dev<---or summat11:08
trappistXcerca: I'm not on amd64 if that's a prerequisite to answering whatever your question is11:08
sethkPinTo, libncurses11:08
PinTobut when iu apt get i dont have n e librarys11:08
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Plus-V-duckylightbright, don't forget to edit your /etc/fstab and make a corresponding mount point with mkdir and chown it to appropriate file permissions11:08
toresnsethk: where can i configure the key bindings?11:08
d03boyanyone know of a very small livecd that I can use to reinstall grub using the grub-install command? (I will also need access to root)11:08
sethkPinTo, if you are doing make xconfig as root, try doing in a non-root terminal, xhost +11:08
mifritscherproblem with hibernate: it can't find the swap-partition, but I even compiled its position (/dev/hdd4) in the kernel...11:09
sethkPinTo, xhost +hostname is better, but try just plain + to see if that is the problem11:09
rob_psethk:  That is true however, his questions regarding config location, etc. led me to believe that he was interested in knowing how to do it manually.11:09
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Plus-V-duckyd03boy, gentoo's live CD is under 200 MB11:09
usarHello, I installed updates in breezy and one of them included nvidia-glx-legacy(I have a tnt2 geforce) and now x doesn't load with the usual error when you driver doesn't work. What could be the problem?11:09
d03boythats not very small, but I'll start downloading it I guess--thanks :)11:09
sethkd03boy, usually better to use the grub utility.  the fedora rescue cd does it and is quite small.11:09
rob_psethk:  But you're correct.11:09
Plus-V-duckyHow small do you need?11:09
sethkrob_p, yes, I didn't realize he was on a server11:09
d03boysethk: whats the grub utility? how do I find it?11:09
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PinToso i just type xhost + sethk11:10
sethkd03boy, you type grub, get a grub prompt11:10
Plus-V-duckyYou can boot Linux with initrd and fs tools from two floppies11:10
PinTothen xconfig11:10
d03boyok11:10
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sethkPinTo, yes, that will allow root to open a window on your x display11:10
d03boyPlus-V-ducky: I just dont want to download a bunch of stuff I dont need11:10
sethkPinTo, right.  if I'm correct about why it is failing, which I believe I am11:10
PinTook thx sethk i'll do it11:10
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PinToTTFN11:10
Plus-V-duckyd03boy, then make some boot floppies11:10
d03boyi dont have a floppy drive11:11
sethkd03boy, you type grub, get a grub prompt, type root (hd0,0)  (if your / is /dev/hda1), then setup (hd0)11:11
guydebordAnyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?11:11
Plus-V-ducky(I have a CF pen drive for that)11:11
sethkd03boy, setup (hd0) to install to the MBR of the first disk11:11
sethkd03boy, burn a cd11:11
Plus-V-duckyGives me about 51 MB after formating11:11
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sethkd03boy, blank cds are cheap11:11
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d03boyi have cds11:11
sethkPlus-V-ducky, I have a one gig flash drive.  512 mb flashes are cheap these days11:11
kvantti#11:11
kvantti    /msg nickserv set email miksu.suomi@hotmail.com11:11
d03boyi also have multiple usb drives11:12
jbroomeusb drive raid!11:12
d03boyBut I cant get into lniux right now, so im in winxp11:12
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sethkkvantti, now everybody knows your email address  :)11:12
Plus-V-duckyStill plenty of legacy BIOS out there that don't support USB boot devs though11:12
Plus-V-duckysethk, I *hate* you  =P11:12
sethkd03boy, you can burn a cd in xp and read it in linux11:12
d03boywinxp overwrote the mbr, thats why im doign this11:12
sethkPlus-V-ducky, :)  I got somebody else to pay for it.  :)11:12
sethkd03boy, that's normal.  the grub sequence I told you reverses that11:12
Plus-V-duckygrrrr...11:13
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robbietjuhrob_p:  Thanks m811:13
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d03boyok... well im gunna start looking for this fedora liveCD i guess11:13
guydebordIs anybody seeing what I write? Or am I being ignored?11:14
rob_probbietjuh:  np :-)11:14
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kvanttisethk damn. how foolish of me11:14
kvanttisethk but go ahead and spam my hotmail account..maybe i have another one ;)11:15
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sethkd03boy, it's one of the smaller ones11:15
sethkd03boy, the ubunti install cd has a rescue mode also, you know11:15
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SirGrokso long, farewell11:15
Zedughd03boy, try DamnSmallLinux, about 50M, but check the DSL website to verify it has grub. i think it does.11:15
Plus-V-duckyguydebord, I can't speak for the rest, but I'm ignoring everything you say -- hah!11:15
d03boysethk: I dont have an ubuntu cd, I installed using my school's image11:15
Kerr'lo .. i'm installing breezy (expert) as i needed to manually partition.. i;m given a choice of three kernels.. is there any advantage to using other than the default?11:15
sethkd03boy, ok.  then go with fedora rescue, or look in bootdisk.com11:15
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PyIRCHello.11:16
sethkKerr, normally, no11:16
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Plus-V-duckyhmmm... post /partum nick latency11:16
grogoreohi11:16
kvanttithere is a thing called insert rescue & analysis11:16
grogoreodoes anyone's Mozilla firefox crash when firstly Totem is loaded (even if it can't play the file) in a plugin, and closes. Also Mplayer - when a file is loaded and the back button pressed or the tab closed, the sound keeps on playing, then when it finishes firefox closes.11:16
usarHello, I installed updates in breezy and one of them included nvidia-glx-legacy(I have a tnt2 geforce) and now x doesn't load with the usual error when you driver doesn't work. What could be the problem?11:17
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Kerrsethk: can you elaborate a little? ... are there disadvantages to using the last in the list (persumably newest..) ?11:17
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Kerregads, this shell i s laggy :-/11:17
Plus-V-duckyKerr -- go with the gneric 'linux+[your_arch] ' and it should install the newest kernel available from Ubuntu repositories11:17
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sethkKerr, my policy is to always use the default unless I have a good reason not to.  It's the most tested, for one thing11:17
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Littlekillwas wondering, is this Linux OS any good for gaming and graphics work?11:17
sethkKerr, why invite trouble for no reason?11:17
Xcercawhats cvs ?11:17
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PyIRCHello.11:17
kvanttiLittlekill try out gimp11:18
sethkKerr, and, no, it's not valid to assume that one is newer because it is later on the list11:18
kvanttiLittlekill it rock11:18
Littlekilli was thinking of trying SUSE11:18
kvanttiLittlekill s11:18
sethkKerr, unless you are talking about kernel version numbers11:18
d03boynow if I could only find the fedora site :P11:18
Plus-V-duckyusar n00k that driver11:18
sethkXcerca, a distributed source code versioning and control system11:18
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grogoreoLittlekill, gaming is good in some cases. Graphics work - what type are you thinking? Tinkering or professional?11:18
sethkd03boy, I think fedora.redhat.com11:18
d03boyerr, the rescue cd11:18
greenpenguin13JOIN #ubuntu-uk11:18
sethkgreenpenguin13, you mean /join11:19
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usarPlus-V-ducky: uninstall and reinstall?11:19
greenpenguin13lol yeah11:19
Kerrsethk: i'd normally read up, but my sarge box died, i always wanted to replace it with ubuntu but this is a bit sudden >.<11:19
Plus-V-duckyLittlekill, inkscape + ubuntu ++11:19
Plus-V-ducky=o)11:19
LittlekillTinkering and Professional - Mainly with Photoshop + Flash11:19
sethkKerr, just take the default kernel.  you can always install another one later if it turns out to be what you want11:19
usarPlus-V-ducky: vesa is alternative but I won't have direct rendering and it's slower11:19
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kvanttiLittlekill http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/11:19
Quistisellow11:19
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Plus-V-duckyusar, no just uninstall the bad driver and  dselect hold it so it won't come back again11:20
Kerrthanks for the help, sethk :)11:20
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grogoreoLittlekill, well you could try Crossover Office, but only PS7 works. Flash is hard to get working as well. I uses these programs too11:20
Quistisi have hoary installed on my machine and i would like to upgrade it to breezy11:20
Littlekillthanks11:20
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Quistiscan anyone give me the sources.list file from breezy?11:20
d03boysethk: you think fc3 rescue cd would be sufficient?11:20
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usarPlus-V-ducky: it's the right driver for my hardware, I didn't mean it was the wrong driver11:21
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sethkd03boy, sure11:21
d03boycool. 78mb11:21
Plus-V-duckyquistis type "ubotu, tell me about repos"11:21
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usarPlus-V-ducky: I just upgraded the same package and there was brakage11:21
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usarPlus-V-ducky: brakage is French for breakage, of course11:21
Plus-V-duckyusar, then wouldn't you say the upgrade was the proble?11:21
cafuegoFor most purposes, gimp is fine as a photoshop replacement.11:22
cafuegoFlash is closed, so you know...11:22
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PyIRCHello.11:22
Plus-V-duckyproble is  Duck fir problem11:22
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PyIRChey again ppl11:22
oshbugzilla.ubuntu.com is the place to go to file kubuntu bugs too isn't it?11:22
topyliQuistis: mine: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list . check that you don't enable all the unstable stuff before you upgrade. just use the official reopositories11:22
sethkd03boy, there is an add-on that makes gimp look more like photoshop, although personally I don't see the need.11:22
cafuegod03boy: Yes, that's annoying, but then there's gimpshop too i huess.11:22
Quististhx11:22
Riddellosh: yes, if it's in main11:22
d03boythats cool. Never heard of those11:22
usarPlus-V-ducky: right, and I pin it down on the drivers that were upgraded; I still don't see where you're going solution-wise11:23
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PyIRCHello.11:23
Plus-V-duckyusar, revert your drivers11:23
cafuegoI don't know if there's an SVG based flash replacement yet... (nind you that would not have interactivity, just animation)11:23
oshRiddell: How do I know if it's in main?11:23
topyliQuistis: actually, that's old it seems. let me upload a better one to that same location11:23
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Plus-V-ducky(unless you wanna futz around with modprobe and insmod which is oftem what drm aand gl stuffs want -- a kernel module)11:24
usarPlus-V-ducky: ah, how do I downgrade a package? why would mirror have the older package?11:24
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topyliQuistis: now it should be what i'm actually using11:24
Plus-V-duckyusar, it won't be older -- just possibly misconfigured11:24
rixthExtracting a 2gb rar file./11:25
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Plus-V-duckyusar man apt-get (or use dselect or aptitude to force a version number)11:25
Plus-V-duckySynaptic probably does it too11:26
Quististopyli thx, i needed only the ubuntu things, so for me both are good :>11:26
rixthusar, mirrors have older versions of things like gcc, libtool, automake/conf etc etc11:26
topyliQuistis: cheers :)11:26
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Quististopyli have to add the Tor repository though :P11:26
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topyliQuistis: tor?11:27
volzakhi11:27
Quististopyli Tor is that anonymous network11:27
rixthtopyli, some stupid protocl that supposedly makes you anonymous11:28
Quistisbtw: what is W: GPG error: http://mirror.noreply.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CFF71CB3AFA44BDD11:28
scorpixi got this error when trying to install realplayer: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:28
topyliQuistis: oh yeah, i remember now11:28
rixthscorpix, apt-get install it.11:28
rixthIt is in apt.11:28
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Plus-V-duckyusar if you really wants "teh |3LEE|)1|\|6 3d6e", get src from CVS (if avail -- with nvidia, it mioght not be), update your compiler tools and build it yourself11:28
usarPlus-V-ducky: ah, the problem may have been that the update contained both kernel updates and gfx driver updates11:28
Plus-V-duckyusar, I doubt it11:29
scorpixwhat its name in apt?11:29
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rixthscorpix, I dunno. Search for it...11:29
PinTol o sethk it said xhost disabled11:29
Xcercawhats the command to reconfigure xserver11:29
Plus-V-duckyscorpix, nm what rixth says -- realplaayer only comes as binaries11:29
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Xcercai know its dpgk ...  somthing11:30
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rixthPlus-V-ducky, he still needs the stdc module though....11:30
Plus-V-duckyIf yo want to build it you'll have to choose their OS helixplayer11:30
volzakdoes any one speek french11:30
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greenpenguin13Hello.11:30
rixthPlus-V-ducky, HE ISN'T BUILDING. The binary requires libstdc, trust me.11:30
greenpenguin13/msg Nickserv IDENTIFY11:30
rixthIt is Real, after all11:31
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greenpenguin13Hello.11:31
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Plus-V-duckyIsn't libstdc.so one of the files in the Realplayer packaage?11:31
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rixthPlus-V-ducky, nope.11:31
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rixthscorpix, apt-get install libstdc++511:32
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scorpixrixth: i install it, th.x for help11:32
Plus-V-duckyapt-cache search helix11:32
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sethkPinTo, that's normal, it should say "connections allowed from any host" or something similar11:33
sethkPinTo, then, if the problem with make xconfig was permissions, make xconfig should show the configuration window11:33
d03boysethk: ok... i burned the fc3 rescue cd... i just type grub, root (hd0,0), setup(hd0) and I'm set?11:33
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KurtKrautwhick kernel version comes with Breezy ?11:33
sethkd03boy, boot the cd.  do the chroot it tells you to do on the screen, then do the grub sequence.11:33
KurtKraut*which11:33
d03boysethk: thanks, i'll be back... hopefully in linux :P11:33
Plus-V-duckyKurtKraut, current is 2.6.12-911:33
Quistisi think im switching back to debian when i reinstall my server11:33
Xcercais breezy newer than hoary ?11:33
KurtKrautPlus-V-ducky, thanks11:33
QuistisXcerca yes it is11:34
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BadMackTuckXcerca: breezy = 5.10 and hoary = 5.0411:34
Xcercado people still use hoary ?11:34
AMDXPi think i am having hardware issues this is really sluggish11:34
Xcercaout of choice ?11:34
cafuegoPlus-V-ducky: No, 2.6.12-1011:34
Plus-V-duckypardon me11:35
PinTosethk no it doesnt display a window.....i have installed make, gcc11:35
cafuego(Lotsa security fixes in newer kernel yesterday :-)11:35
PinTobut no libraries11:35
Quistisis it dangerous to remove ubuntu-base?11:35
BadMackTuckcafuego: i thought it had the new centrino drivers in it11:35
sethkPinTo, it should either display the window or show an error message.  You did cd to linux-2.6.12-9, right?11:35
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Plus-V-duckyI jsut upgraded myself to -10 (haven't done init 6 yet though)11:36
wbhallo I just installed ubuntu and this are the first steps in the ubuntu world11:36
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cafuegoBadMackTuck: 2.6.15 perhaps11:36
BadMackTuckcafuego: hmm, okay11:36
cafuegoBadMackTuck: Such a large change is unlikely to be included in a security patch11:36
PinTosethk i might not have11:36
KurtKrautcafuego, I had a very bad RAM management in Breezy. My SWAP was getting full, so I've downgraded to Hoary and here I have no problem. So this kernel changes might solve my problem ? Should I try to upgrade to Breezy again ?11:36
joftupgrading to breezy messed up so many things on my notebook11:36
PinToi'll do that11:36
sethkPinTo, k11:36
Seveaswb, welcome :)11:36
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Plus-V-duckycafuego, were you jsut looking on kernel.org?11:36
cafuegoKurtKraut: How much ram/swap do you have?11:36
BadMackTuckKurtKraut: that might actually be because of firefox11:36
cafuegoPlus-V-ducky: No, howso?11:37
joftnow I get all these weird error popup windows when i load x, and a lot of programs won't start, and it hangs11:37
KurtKrautcafuego, I have 256mb DDR.11:37
BadMackTucki've heard that it fills the ram all crazy like that11:37
cafuegoKurtKraut: Do you use gnome?11:37
Quistisis it dangerous to remove ubuntu-base?11:37
BadMackTuckand sometimes uses 100% cpu all the time11:37
Plus-V-duckyre: Centrino support in 2.6.1511:37
KurtKrautBadMackTuck, hmmm... nobody had mentioned it to me before. I've already got on Breezy Xorg using 100% CPU.11:37
KurtKrautcafuego, yes, I do.11:37
Plus-V-duckyerrr updated support that is11:37
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greenpenguin13Hello.11:37
greenpenguin13/msg NickServ IDENTIFY11:38
Quistisis it dangerous to remove ubuntu-base?11:38
Plus-V-duckyjoft, take a look at /var/log/x/[your xserver] 11:38
cafuegoPlus-V-ducky: No, just guessing. But then, minor revision updates on a stable Ubuntu reelase do not include such large feature changes.11:38
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racookierhi11:38
yhQuistis: don't do it : )11:38
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rmn30Quistis, looking in synaptic: The Ubuntu base system (transitional package)11:38
rmn30This package exists only to cause ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard to be11:38
rmn30installed on upgrades from earlier releases to Ubuntu 5.10.  It is safe to11:38
rmn30remove this package once the upgrade is complete.11:38
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BadMackTuckKurtKraut: yeah thats what i heard, but it didnt happen to me. maybe try a newer version of firefox or uninstall it or something. people tell me flock is cool11:38
SeveasNEVER paste in here11:39
Plus-V-duckycafuego, still, a kernel is a kernel -- same for all distros less built-in modules11:39
racookierhow the hell print from windows machines on ubuntu printers?11:39
cafuegoKurtKraut: Gnome, when just running, would be using pretty much all of your ram. Any apps you start will make the machine start to swap. Do you use Evolution?11:39
Seveasracookier, install samba and sher the printer11:39
cafuegoPlus-V-ducky: Not quite, there are a LOT of distro-specific patches.11:39
Plus-V-duckyracookier, with printer daemon11:39
usarhow can I play midi on breezy eazily?11:39
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Seveasusar, timidity11:39
Quistisrmn30: i just added breezy sources and am doing an upgrade. i can delete it then?11:39
usarSeveas: thanks11:39
KurtKrautcafuego, no, I don't use Evolution. And using Hoary I hardly ever have SWAP in use and with sarge I've NEVER ever had SWAP beeing used, only after some days of uptime.11:40
Plus-V-duckycafuego, don't all the patches go back into the source tree?11:40
wbI have installed ubuntu 5.10 on my Acer Travelmate 291 LMI Notebook with Centrino wlan and Dlink AP so far all works very good!11:40
Plus-V-duckywb, awesome!11:40
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cafuegoPlus-V-ducky: Not the linus one, no. He might not accept them, for instance! :-)11:40
KurtKrautcafuego, in all systems (breezy, hoary, sarge) I use the same applications. So for me there is clearly a bad performace on Breezy comparing to Hoary and mainly to sarge.11:40
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cafuegoKurtKraut: *nod* Do you have xorg transparency enabled?11:41
cafuegoKurtKraut: ... or using beagle?11:41
BadMackTuckwb: thats really good to know11:41
Plus-V-duckyAre yoiu using ndiswrapper or a native i810/i920 driver?11:41
KurtKrautcafuego, no, none of these features.11:41
BadMackTuckwb: i have a travelmate 8103 and i wanted to try it11:41
joftI upgraded to breezy and now almost nothing works11:41
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r3nd3zanyone know how i can make the sound work? fresh install of ubuntu, and its my first time :)11:41
cafuegoKurtKraut: How about when using a different kernel under breezy?11:41
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BadMackTuckjoft: poor joft, having problems all day =|11:42
toresnwhere can i find the official documentation for ubuntu?  couldn't find any decent (running) documentation on the official site...11:42
TokenBadits not working!!!!!!!11:42
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KurtKrautcafuego, I don't have enough experience in linux to do it by myself.11:42
KurtKrautcafuego, do you suggest any tutorial ?11:42
Seveastoresn, /topic11:42
racookierhttps://wiki.ubun.com or help.ubuntu.com11:42
toresnoh. sorry :-)11:42
joftgaim, synaptic, openoffice, and xmms work, but if i try to start xchat I get "Segmentation fault"11:42
wbI installed all default and so far all works as expectet but what utility would you use for speedstep!11:42
Plus-V-duckycafuego, I thought we used the same 'pure' GNU/Linux kernel as Debian and Gentoo.  Redhack. LuSE and Muckrake msut be getting *really* forked by now, then...11:43
TokenBadcan someone tell me why proftpd will not work? or why i get errors when try to install it using apt-get?11:43
cafuegoKurtKraut: Try the hoary kernel under breezy, just install & boot.11:43
joftwhen I start gdm I get some weird popup windows, one says "Xsession:" and nothing else, another says it couldn't initialize HAL11:43
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Seveaswb, ubuntu scales cpu frequency automatically11:43
NsOmNiAcjoft : thought about using Synaptic to reinstall the application11:43
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wbseveas thank you!11:43
Plus-V-duckyjoft, since it's his x-server, that would be hard11:43
joftcould all of my problems be caused by a bad sources.list?11:43
oblibIs there a linux utility that will allow me to monitor CPU temp, or is that too MB specific?11:44
KurtKrautcafuego, is there any documentation that I would learn how to do such changes with kernel ?11:44
Plus-V-duckyerr NsOmNiAc I mean11:44
joftI upgraded by changing all the "hoary" in my sources.list to "breezy," and then i also tried "apt-get dist-upgrade"11:44
Plus-V-duckyjoft --not likely11:44
TokenBadanyone?11:44
cafuegoKurtKraut: Just the package, no changing of anything else.11:44
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KurtKrautcafuego, so it is easier than I thought ;D11:44
jofti'm getting a lot of dependency errors now11:44
joftsince I did the dist-upgrade11:45
KurtKrautjoft, this is why this way of upgrade is not suggested. The best way is to install Breezy directly from a CD11:45
Plus-V-duckyjoft, have you tried # apt-get remove --purge foo && apt-get install foo11:45
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joftfoo?11:45
joftam i supposed to remove and reinstall every application that doesn't work?11:46
Plus-V-duckyfoo is a gneric name for 'any program' or file11:46
joftwhy would upgrading to breezy mess up so much though11:46
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rubemhi there... does anyone know that is xmu library (xmU not xml)?11:46
Plus-V-duckyjoft, with a busted x-server it can fix things11:46
catherineis there a chat room for blender ?11:46
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oblibjoft, sorry I'm late to conversation, how did you upgrade?11:46
wolkihi!11:47
rubem?11:47
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catherine!blender11:47
Plus-V-duckycatherine, not unless you toss a frog in it -- heh\11:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, blender is a free 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org, and tutorials at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro11:47
Seveasjoft, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:47
oblibcatherine, try /join #blender11:47
Seveasand make sure you reconfigured X11:47
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TokenBadwhen installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?11:47
Seveasjoft, the upgrade notes tell you this...11:47
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joftfirst I tried changing all the "hoary" to "breezy" in my sources.list. then I got a ton of problems and errors with X because for some reason it didn't install the x-server-common11:47
Seveasjoft: install ubuntu-desktop11:48
joftthen I tried apt-get dist-upgrade and now most things work, except I have a lot of weird errors and some applications won't launch but say "Segmentation fault"11:48
Seveasjoft, do you even listen?11:48
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joftSeveas, when I try that it gives me a screen-long list of dependency errors11:48
GruntleNudity I just ordered the CDs... anything I should know?11:48
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Seveasjoft, goo11:48
Seveasd11:48
Plus-V-duckyjoft deinstall first11:48
Seveasthen we're going somewhere11:48
SeveasPlus-V-ducky, nonsense11:48
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d03boysethk: well, I got to the point where I run the root command but it didnt seem to like my arguments I gave it. Would you mind takin a look at my partition table (http://www.msoe.edu/~phillijw/partitions.htm) and seeing what partition I need to give it?11:48
Seveasjoft, sources.list and all errors on the pastebin please11:49
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d03boyI'm not sure which partition is my boot partition11:49
Quistisjoft: the last time i saw "Segmentation fault" there was a rootkit on my system11:49
joftuh11:49
joftmy browser won't work11:49
BadMackTuckrootkit ahoy!11:49
Seveasjoft, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin11:49
MrFartsQuistis, SuckIT ?11:49
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Seveasjoft, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | python pastebin11:50
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QuistisMrFarts: tornkit was found i think11:50
Seveasjoft, put the errors in a file and cat that_file | python pastebin11:50
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Plus-V-ducky'python pastebin'?11:50
dylan_why use linux over windows?11:50
miveyis there any way to use the cd-rom drive while using the live CD?11:50
MrFartsdylan_, because your friends will think you are cool11:50
d03boydylan_: windows costs money11:50
jofthttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/493811:50
Seveasdylan_, this is a support channel, not an advocacy channel11:50
LjLdylan_: for a number of reasons that are probably off-topic here11:50
QuistisMrFarts: i was to damn lazy to reinstall it, so i just closed the port on the router and removed the rootkit :>11:50
oblibdylan_, have you read any of the forum entries on that questoin? there are many11:50
dylan_oblib, can you point me in the right direction?11:51
oblibwww.ubuntuforums.com11:51
Seveasjoft, that sources.list is utterly broken11:51
MrFartsQuistis, we had suckit on one of our systems11:51
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MrFartsQuistis, that thing is a pain11:51
oblibdylan_, then maybe search "windows" or something11:51
oblibokay11:51
LjLdylan_: why don't you just try installing a linux distribution (such as ubuntu), use it for a while, and make up your mind for yourself?11:51
Seveasjoft, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list11:51
oblibhe's gone LjL11:51
Seveasjoft, the O in -O is a capital Oh, not a zero11:52
LjLyeah, i don't type *that* fast11:52
oblibIs there a linux utility that will allow me to monitor CPU temp, or is that too MB specific?11:52
Seveasoblib, gkrellm/gdesklets11:52
LjLoblib: install lm-sensors11:52
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QuistisMrFarts: all rootkits are a pain. did you reinstall?11:52
senicashi all - i would like to NOT show mounted Hdds on my Desktop! Where to change that?11:52
d03boyok, here I go again to try: grub-install /dev/hda11:52
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MrFartsQuistis, not yet, the colo is far away11:52
Seveassenicas, gconf-editor11:52
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Seveassenicas, apps->nautilus->desktop->show_volumes11:52
MrFartsQuistis, i'm going to rework the network soon; for now i'm keeping my fingers crossed11:53
QuistisMrFarts: so you removed the rootkit by hand? :>11:53
TokenBadwhen installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?11:53
MrFartsQuistis, yeah :(11:53
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Astxistlm_sensors isn't overtly hard to set up but it took me awhile to tweak the conf11:53
senicasSeveas: thx - that was a fast reply :)11:53
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QuistisMrFarts: thats a good thing, as long as you dont get segfaults :>11:53
MrFartsQuistis, it's the same rootkit that the debian cvs servers got hakced with11:53
LjLAstxist: it gave things weird names here, but other than that it worked. i think gdesklets and that sort of things use lm-sensors anyway as a backend11:53
Plus-V-duckysenicas, edit  all the /media/[whatever]  out of your /etc/fstab (excpet for perhaps a usb drive)11:53
MrFartsQuistis, so it's pretty well documented11:53
szronikI need to compile a package, just installed Ubuntu a few days ago. First I couldn't compile because gcc wasn't available (Ubuntu install doesn't default to gcc installation?) then I did 'sudo apt-get install gcc4-0' and supposedly it'st here, but I can't find the binary anywhere. Any clues?11:53
joftSeveas: all done, now what? dist-upgrade and upgrade both don't have any packages to install with the new sources.list11:53
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Plus-V-duckythen do umount11:53
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AstxistMrFarts, could you point me to a doc on it?11:54
BadMackTuckszronik: there is another name for it11:54
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parcaHey guys, I just installed flashplugin-nonfree and restarted firefox and its still not installed as  a plugin11:54
MrFartsAstxist, google for it11:54
Seveasjoft, what does apt-get dist-upgrade say?11:54
szronikBadMackTuck: What do you mean?11:54
MrFartsAstxist, i don't have any info offhand11:54
Seveasonly 'nothing to update'?11:54
BadMackTuckszronik: i just did it, it might have just been gcc and not gcc4-011:54
parcaHey guys, I just installed flashplugin-nonfree and restarted firefox and its still not installed as  a plugin. Any ideas?11:54
joftunmet dependency on 1 package11:55
AstxistMrFarts, right I didn't see the name otherwise I would've ty11:55
Seveasparca, flashplayer-mozilla11:55
BadMackTuckszronik: but of course i cant remember :|11:55
rubemis it safe apt-get dist upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?11:55
Seveasjoft, paste it in a private chat11:55
joftlanguage-support-en depends on openoffice.org2-help-en-us11:55
Seveasrubem, yes, if you read the upgrade notes11:55
szronikBadMuckTuck: OK, just did it with just gcc.11:55
parcaSeveas, for firefox?11:55
Seveasjoft, ah - you used backports11:55
joftI'm trying apt-get -f dist-upgrade now11:55
Seveasparca, yes11:55
szronikBadMuckTuck: But I don't think it worked earlier, before I did gcc-4.011:55
parcaSeveas, thanks11:55
szronikBadMuckTuck: It's there though, thanks. :)11:56
Seveasjoft, apt-get -f install / dpkg --configure --pending are worthwile too11:56
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krak`nixanyone know how i can get rid of this security warning on .m3u files?11:56
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Seveasdon't play them ;)11:57
krak`nix"contentx of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain text document".  If you open this file, the file might presetn a security risk to your system"11:57
rubemSeveas how big is the download?11:58
Seveasrubem, depends on how many packages you installed11:58
Seveas300-500mb is normal11:58
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GruntleNudityIm downloading the live CD and it's 627MB11:59
oblibLjL, I installed it, ran pmwconfig and it says no sensors found. Any ideas?11:59

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