[12:00] <gnomefreak> brb i hope
[12:00] <Cartesian1984> LjL;i haven't tried yet, haven't turned it off
[12:00] <Cartesian1984> I am on it now, in fact
[12:00] <lorenzo> worked fine with php/apache under windows, but that's the only thing I cannot get to work now in linux, although I am very pleased with all the rest
[12:01] <sethk> lorenzo, what happens?
[12:01] <GregAsche> anyone care to give their insight? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93729
[12:02] <lorenzo> well nothing happens. The php page tells me the feedback was sent correctly, but the receiver (me) never recieves the expected email
[12:02] <Cartesian1984> LjL: any idea what that folder is for? i think it might be maintenance, but i dont want to take the chance of shutting it off
[12:03] <sethk> lorenzo, you'll have to trace it through the apache logs, see what happens
[12:03] <LjL> Cartesian1984: that folder is for startup. hold on, i'm hoping to give you a solution
[12:03] <Cartesian1984> thanks
[12:05] <Elsan> Is it normal that the GNOME theme manager does not work with the new kernel version?
[12:05] <foxiness> can i find anjuta 2.0 on ubuntu "i want to give it a try"
[12:05] <delltony> question is there a gui program to do scp transfers?
[12:06] <Agrajag> delltony: gftp might support it
[12:06] <Ju> delltony:  gftp can
[12:06] <delltony> alright will have a look thanks
[12:06] <delltony> thanks
[12:06] <lorenzo> took a quick look at the apache logs, I see all my requests for pages, etc... no mentions of the mail or sendmail words anywhere ...  :(
[12:06] <PinTo> i have a q's
[12:07] <PinTo> i have an old system with 3d voodoofx
[12:07] <LjL> Cartesian1984: please paste the results of "ls /etc/init.d" on the pastebin
[12:07] <sethk> lorenzo, add something to the php page to log to a file, make sure it actually gets executed
[12:07] <PinTo> does n e 1 know where i can get driver from
[12:07] <PinTo> can i use files ending in RPM in ubuntu?
[12:07] <sethk> PinTo, an old lady in Port O Prince
[12:07] <jab630> join #brownlug
[12:08] <lorenzo> ohoo, see what we have here :
[12:08] <lorenzo> sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory
[12:08] <PinTo> sethk i wish i knew
[12:08] <Elsan> PinTo: You can use alien to make a .deb from it
[12:08] <lorenzo> but the sendmail IS there ...
[12:08] <foxiness> PinTo, alin somthing.rpm
[12:08] <sethk> lorenzo, must not be in /usr/sbin
[12:08] <sethk> lorenzo, although it should be
[12:08] <Cartesian1984> LjL: it says that there is no such file or directory
[12:09] <PinTo> Elsan i'am a noob
[12:09] <LjL> Cartesian1984: ehm, then you've removed much more than just /etc/rc1.d
[12:09] <Agrajag> PinTo: what is the rpm file you want to use?
[12:09] <LjL> Cartesian1984: paste me an "ls /etc"
[12:09] <foxiness> PinTo, but alien its not soo good or safe
[12:09] <ursula> join [#ubuntu] 
[12:09] <orbx> is it possible to copy whole directories via the terminal?
[12:09] <Agrajag> orbx: cp -R
[12:09] <ursula> hi all
[12:09] <LjL> orbx: cp -a
[12:09] <PinTo> XFree86 V3.3.3, 3dfx XF86Setup rpm
[12:09] <orbx> or move?
[12:09] <foxiness> PinTo, use .deb
[12:10] <Agrajag> oh yeah, -a's better
[12:10] <topyli> PinTo: alien is the last resort. try to get the driver otherwise before. are you sure it's not in modern X?
[12:10] <Elsan> PinTo: Just download the "alien" package with synaptic or "sudo apt-get install alien". Then in the command line: "alien yourrpm.rpm". IT may not ALWAYS work. It worked for Limewire for me and not at all for others.
[12:10] <orbx> Ljl > what does the command do, and in what context do i use it in?
[12:10] <Agrajag> PinTo: xfree86? that's ancient
[12:10] <Elsan> PinTo: So, try to find a .deb.
[12:10] <Elsan> What are the improvements of the new kernel?
[12:10] <topyli> PinTo: Xfree 3.3 is like from 1995 or something :)
[12:10] <delltony> real quick the command to copy a file from a remote location to local location is scp -p Enterporthere username@host/pathtofile  .  correct?
[12:10] <lorenzo> well, it is there, believe me .............."puzzled"
[12:10] <sethk> lorenzo, check its permissions
[12:10] <LjL> orbx: when you want to copy recursively and maintain permissions (and not follow symlinks, i think). it's all in "man cp"
[12:11] <PinTo> agrajag i didnt know
[12:11] <sethk> lorenzo, also check the permissions on its directory, make sure the directory is searchable for the user that runs the php script
[12:11] <Cartesian1984> LJL: do you mean pastebin.com? because i think the server is down
[12:11] <orbx> Ljl > is there anyway of moving dir's like sudo mv?
[12:11] <LjL> Cartesian1984: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:11] <trappist> orbx: mv moves directories too
[12:12] <Elsan> PinTo: You understand?
[12:12] <orbx> trappist > yay, thank you
[12:12] <LjL> orbx: you can just use "mv" to move directories, at least if it's all inside the same filesystem
[12:12] <LjL> orbx: otherwise, just cp and then remove the original
[12:12] <PinTo> Elsan i'll have a read thnx for the info
[12:12] <trappist> doesn't have to be the same filesystem
[12:12] <topyli> PinTo: open a terminal, and say "lspci | grep VGA"
[12:12] <SoulPropagation> how do ya make panel items (e.g. menu, clock, etc) transparent like empty areas of the panel?
[12:13] <orbx> Ljl > thanks alot for your helo ;)
[12:13] <orbx> help*
[12:13] <topyli> PinTo: let's see what kinf of card you have
[12:13] <LjL> trappist: i don't really know, i just know i wouldn't use "mv" to move across filesystems, personally :) you never know
[12:13] <Elsan> PinTo: It's really simple. I'm still a little newbie, just happened to find "alien" in synaptic by luck and used it for my .rpm.
[12:13] <PinTo> i havent got an internet connection yet.....so i'll do that and get bak toya thnx
[12:13] <PinTo> reboot
[12:14] <Cartesian1984> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4873
[12:15] <sethk> LjL, mv works across file systems.  It will complete copying before removing the original file
[12:15] <LjL> Cartesian1984: so it's actually /etc/init.d that you deleted, not /etc/rc1.d ..?
[12:15] <iamkirk> yo
[12:15] <LjL> sethk: ok
[12:15] <sethk> LjL, on the other hand, I _never_ have only one copy of _anything_   :)
[12:16] <Cartesian1984> yes, rc2.d also, possibly
[12:16] <iamkirk> Who wants to help me wtfpwn linux ? :P
[12:16] <LjL> sethk: that's fine practice of course, though disk space isn't as cheap as they say
[12:16] <iamkirk> i have 40gb of HD to get at :P
[12:17] <sethk> LjL, it's cheaper than recreating files.  :)
[12:17] <LjL> Cartesian1984: "ls" all the /etc/rcX.d and paste them
[12:17] <trappist> LjL: here's the intro to the relevant section of mv.c: /* Move SOURCE onto DEST.  Handles cross-filesystem moves.
[12:17] <iamkirk> no one wants to help me ? :P
[12:17] <Cartesian1984> LjL: is it possible for me to move vital portions of those folders from the installation cd?
[12:17] <LjL> oh geez
[12:18] <trappist> LjL: followed closely by something like if (fail) dir_to_remove = NULL;
[12:18] <LjL> trappist: you actually went and found the relevant part of the source? man, i would have believed you without that
[12:18] <lorenzo> thank you sethk, I'll also look in that direction
[12:18] <trappist> LjL: well I wanted to know for sure :)
[12:19] <LjL> trappist: ;-)
[12:20] <Remmelas> any mencoder experts in the room?
[12:20] <LjL> Cartesian1984: yes and no
[12:21] <WebLOCH> Hey guys got a brief question
[12:21] <LjL> Cartesian1984: if you have installed services since you installed ubuntu, restoring the files from CD won't give you back everything. and in any case, i personally don't know where to find the files on the CD
[12:21] <WebLOCH> Will i need to reboot ubuntu after connecting a printer?  I realise theres no definate answer, but a good guess will fill me with the motivation to go and get the printer...
[12:21] <LjL> Cartesian1984: but, give me that listing... i think i can restore /etc/init.d, though as for /etc/rc2.d, that could be a bit harder
[12:22] <die_harder> my cron job on my server is ignored. i inserted it with crontab -e
[12:22] <die_harder>  */2 * * * * /home/luther/gate/open
[12:22] <die_harder> when i run the command manual it works
[12:24] <iamkirk> I have a 75 gb HD.... I made a 10gb partition for winblows.... made a 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and I made an extended partition of 45 gb ( all done within winblows ).... how can i access that partition from ubunti
[12:24] <PinTo> i think i was talkin elsan i dunno?
[12:24] <PinTo> my card is
[12:24] <Cartesian1984> LjL; what if i just used synaptic to mass-reinstall everything? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4874
[12:25] <LjL> Cartesian1984: that's not dissimilar from what i was thinking about -- however, i was only thinking of reinstalling stuff that *has* files in /etc/init.d
[12:25] <PinTo> VGA compatible controller:3dfx interactive,incvoodoo 3 (rev 01)
[12:25] <Teatime_> hey everyone....how do I get my powerbook to boot the ubuntu CD?
[12:25] <purplefeltangel> ubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tries to find my scanner....what do i do??
[12:26] <Cartesian1984> LjL: and idea how i would determine that?
[12:26] <LjL> Cartesian1984: in any case 1) i'm not sure how Synaptic would behave with a reinstall of core packages  2) reinstalling won't restore /etc/rc2.d, though it will restore /etc/init.d
[12:26] <PinTo> man i needed a re-boot
[12:26] <rafa> hi
[12:26] <LjL> Cartesian1984: yeah, the idea i had in mind was simply to look in /etc/rcX.d -- everything that's in /etc/rcX.d corresponds to something in /etc/init.d
[12:27] <kemik> !cups
[12:27] <ubotu> No idea, kemik
[12:27] <GregAsche> is there a line I can use in my smb.conf so that any user can access anything I share with samba?
[12:27] <kemik> !printer
[12:27] <ubotu> I guess printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:27] <PinTo> can n e help plz with my voodoo
[12:27] <brocantor> super linux j adore
[12:27] <rafa> anybody knows any reference of how to allow remote connection of clients to the Xserver?
[12:27] <PinTo> my desktop is like totaly huge because i cant change the RES
[12:27] <Cartesian1984> LjL: is there any way to reinstall ubuntu without losing everything on this partition?
[12:28] <LjL> Cartesian1984: yes, of course, you can save your /home (and more if you want)
[12:28] <purplefeltangel> ubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tries to find my scanner....what do i do??
[12:28] <LjL> Cartesian1984: Ubuntu can be told to not format the partition
[12:28] <Remmelas> Anyone know of a labeling program that has a template for dvd case labels?  Tried glabel, but looks like it only has templates for the disc's themselves.
[12:28] <Teatime_> anyone know how to mac my powerbook boot from the ubuntu cd?
[12:28] <Cartesian1984> LjL: how can i instruct it to do that? is it possible to save all the installed thing?
[12:29] <LjL> Cartesian1984: no, not the installed programs, only your /home and, if you want, any selection of files and directory
[12:29] <Cartesian1984> LjL: hmm. it would be easier to try and copy the files then
[12:29] <LjL> Cartesian1984: you instruct it simply by telling it to not use "automatic partitioning" (or whatever it's called) during setup, and then tell it to not format your partition
[12:29] <iamkirk> I have a 75 gb HD.... I made a 10gb partition for winblows.... made a 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and I made an extended partition of 45 gb ( all done within winblows ).... how can i access that partition from ubunti
[12:29] <rafa> Teatime_, just press C as you bootup
[12:30] <henry_> hello...is there any graphical app that allows me set up the deepth color in buntu, to 24 bits???
[12:31] <Teatime_> rafa: cheers :D
[12:31] <purplefeltangel> ubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tires to find my scanner...HardwareSupportComponentsScanners says that my scanner should work perfectly...what should i do?
[12:31] <n1omi> hi all :) how can i boot into terminal mode, and how can i run two terminals at once when not in a GUI?
[12:31] <smo> n1omi, for the later part, try hitting ctrl+alt+left/right cursors when you're on a terminal.  there should be 6 running already by default
[12:32] <trappist> (or use screen)
[12:32] <n1omi> smo: ctrl+alt+left produces: 7C
[12:33] <kemik> uhm, how do i install cups on ubuntu? (running serverinstall) ... i just guessed it would be "apt-get install cupsys"
[12:33] <topyli> n1omi: for starters, press ctrl-alt-Ff2. then the F1-F7 will take you through 6 virtual consoles and the X session? the graphical one will be at F7
[12:33] <LjL> Cartesian1984: join #kubuntu-offtopic please, if you want me to tell you what exactly i'm trying to do now
[12:34] <PinTo> n e 1 got a link for alien.rpm
[12:35] <n1omi> topyli: woa!! thanks! :D
[12:35] <PinTo> cant find the download
[12:35] <lightbright> if I want to change a whole folders contens permissions to full write, what would I write?  chmod 777 * ?
[12:35] <topyli> n1omi: ancient unix magic :-)
[12:36] <lightbright> topyli: any ideas?
[12:36] <navarone> topyli> I hope no penguins were scarificed...<s.
[12:36] <purplefeltangel> can someone please help me get ubuntu to detect my scanner????
[12:36] <topyli> navarone: not in the 70s, no :)
[12:37] <lightbright> topyli:  i guess you must be new too
[12:37] <smo> lightbright, that should work?
[12:37] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: is you scanner turned on as you boot ubuntu?
[12:37] <lightbright> smo: it should?
[12:37] <kgsnow> lightbright, why not just use chmod -R u+w
[12:37] <smo> altho I'm not sure you'd want everything set executable
[12:37] <topyli> lightbright: use something like chmod -R w
[12:37] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: yes
[12:38] <topyli> lightbright: kgsnow is more right :)
[12:38] <navarone> Pinto you need to search synaptic for alien and install...you cannot install an rpm in ubuntu without alien itslef...chicken before the egg kinda thing
[12:38] <lightbright> kgsnow: whats u+w mean?
[12:38] <lightbright> kgsnow: will chmod -R u+w change ALL files in that folder?
[12:38] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: it is an Afga Snapscan which is supposed to work out of the box, but it says "invalid argument"
[12:38] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  CC meeting still going?
[12:38] <smo> lightbright, -R is recursive, so yes, and them some
[12:38] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, finished 10 seconds ago :)
[12:39] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I gotta go to work soon but
[12:39] <SoulPropagation> !composite
[12:39] <ubotu> from memory, composite is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.
[12:39] <topyli> lightbright: u=user, g=group, o=other (everybody). the + means add. your can use - to reduce rights. then you specify r, w., or x (read, write, execute)
[12:39] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, sorry, but I'm leaving now, 00:36 here and my fiancee is ill
[12:39] <AveTenebrae> hi all
[12:39] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  do you know if Canonical is open for partnerships with start-ups in north america?  A business advisor of mine recommended getting a partnership where I advertise a commercial Linux distribution and they pay me some money to help pay my shop's rent
[12:39] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ah ok
[12:39] <Seveas> if it's important: mail it to dennis@ubuntu.com
[12:40] <lightbright> topyli:  chmod 777 * worked too
[12:40] <AveTenebrae> can anyone help me
[12:40] <SoulPropagation> AveTenebrae: problem?
[12:40] <AveTenebrae> yes
[12:40] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: ok sorry no idea
[12:40] <SoulPropagation> what is it
[12:40] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  just looking for inside advice, off the record :)
[12:40] <AveTenebrae> upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 on ppc
[12:40] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: thx anyway
[12:40] <topyli> lightbright: yes, it's the same thing but i find it harder to remember the octal numerical bull :)
[12:40] <lightbright> topyli: ok thanks
[12:40] <lightbright> topyli:  ;)
[12:41] <n1omi> look, ma, no GUI
[12:41] <lightbright> anyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer with Ubuntu?
[12:41] <AveTenebrae> SoulPropagation:  can u help me ?
[12:41] <vbgunz> hello all... I just upgraded the kernel to 2.6.12-10-686... So now, I have to recompile vmware to work with it... vmware is choking on the "location of the directory of C header files that match the running kernel"... By default it is /usr/src/linux/include" but that directory does not exist... When I inspected it, only 2.6.12-9-686* dirs exist... any ideas?
[12:41] <smo> lightbright, I use ip3000 with commercial drivers.  not sure how much it helps you, but I couldn't get it printing much more than plaintext without
[12:42] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me get ubuntu to detect my scanner?
[12:42] <myk3> hey
[12:42] <ktogias> purplefeltangel, sane, xsane
[12:42] <myk3> can some one help me?
[12:42] <topyli> purplefeltangel: what kind of scanner is it?
[12:42] <myk3> im trying to update kopete and i get a error message
[12:42] <purplefeltangel> ktogias: xsane
[12:42] <purplefeltangel> topyli: afga snapscan
[12:42] <myk3> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!
[12:42] <myk3> thats the error
[12:42] <smo> lightbright, you've taken a look at linuxprinting.org ?
[12:43] <n1omi>  okay, i have a question about terminal mode.. sometimes (like now, on irsii) i can't see what i'm typing.. why is this?
[12:43] <topyli> purplefeltangel: is it usb or parallel port?
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> topyli: i think it's USB
[12:43] <Remmelas> myk3 if you are compiling it, you need to have the X dev files installed i think
[12:44] <SoulPropagation> !breezy
[12:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:44] <topyli> purplefeltangel: parallel port is the large port where you put your printer (at least in the old days). you would know :)
[12:44] <purplefeltangel> topyli, yeah, it's USB
[12:44] <SoulPropagation> AveTenebrae: read what ubotu said
[12:44] <AveTenebrae> it's what i have done
[12:44] <AveTenebrae> i've read the wiki
[12:44] <occy> ubotu, LostPassword is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[12:44] <ubotu> occy: okay
[12:44] <AveTenebrae> and now my Gnome display manager fail to load
[12:44] <lightbright> smo: yeah its not listed there which is strange for its 1 year old printer
[12:45] <lightbright> smo:  is alien safe to use as I was told to alien a rpm for my printer
[12:45] <occy> Seveas, I hope that's not a kickable offense.  If so... feel free to beat me up.
[12:45] <smo> lightbright, I'm biased, but I hate it with a passion
[12:45] <topyli> purplefeltangel: look here: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
[12:45] <occy> Seveas, :P
[12:46] <lightbright> smo:  why?
[12:46] <purplefeltangel> topyli it doesn't have a driver for my scanner...
[12:46] <lightbright> occy: what?
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> topyli it says on the wiki page that my scanner is supported out of the box
[12:47] <occy> lightbright, I added something to the bot.  heh
[12:47] <vbgunz> anyone know the directory that contains my "C header files that match my running kernel? /usr/src/linux/include does not exist... help?
[12:47] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: is your scanner turned on :)
[12:47] <smo> lightbright, I've made a mess of my system in the past by installing debian packages instead of ubuntu ones.  I don't see the sense in going three steps left and adding packages designed for redhat
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> lightbright, yes :P
[12:47] <lightbright> occy: about passwords?
[12:47] <occy> lightbright, yah
[12:47] <occy> I did a search and didn't see it in the keys
[12:48] <occy> so I added it
[12:48] <WebLOCH> hey guys, i have a HP Deskjet 950C  which appears to be connected, but whenever I print nothing at all seems to happen, anyone fancy doing diagnostics?
[12:48] <occy> hope that's ok.
[12:48] <topyli> purplefeltangel: do you have other usb devices? do they work?
[12:48] <purplefeltangel> topyli nope i haven't tried any other USB devices under ubuntu yet...
[12:48] <vbgunz> I think I have it....
[12:48] <vbgunz> thanks
[12:48] <myk3> k
[12:48] <myk3> there is a lot of them
[12:48] <guest__> I have Ubunutu 5.04 for powerpc. Where I can find codecs for playing .vob flies on my Ubuntu
[12:49] <AveTenebrae> wxvlc perhaps
[12:49] <topyli> purplefeltangel: i'm thinking it might be a usb failure. if they say the scanner should "just work"
[12:49] <purplefeltangel> topyli, okay, well in that case what should i do?
[12:50] <theCore> Are they newbies here that want to become good with linux ?
[12:50] <topyli> purplefeltangel: first, get mad and file a bug. then, all the friendly gurus here will help you out =)
[12:50] <purplefeltangel> topyli: will it be able to be fixed tonight? :S i have a project due tomorrow...
[12:50] <WebLOCH> theCore, sure if it will get my printer going :P
[12:51] <gadren> what's your problem, purple?
[12:51] <wjen> can somebody tell me  howto solve this problem  i'm in hoary to breeze   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:51] <PinTo> my resolution is stuck 640X480 n e 1 know why this
[12:51] <myk3> ok
[12:51] <topyli> purplefeltangel: i don't thing i'll be able to help you with this. note that this is a busy channel with friendly people though
[12:51] <lightbright> smo: so how do I get my printer to work then?
[12:51] <myk3> i cant find it
[12:51] <topyli> purplefeltangel: don't give up!
[12:51] <theCore> WebLOCH, okay what is your prob ?
[12:51] <WebLOCH> lightbright, you having trouble print too ?
[12:51] <lightbright> smo:  you give no solutions :)
[12:51] <myk3> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!
[12:51] <purplefeltangel> topyli: where should i file the bug?
[12:51] <vision> hmm
[12:52] <purplefeltangel> topyli like, in which category?
[12:52] <kemik> AWH CHRIST IS THIS SDFAF
[12:52] <vision> this the first time using this for me
[12:52] <kemik> goddamn *"#"
[12:52] <myk3> what printer is it?
[12:52] <kemik> CUPS and Ubuntu server install... moar headache PLEASE?
[12:52] <delltony> isn't hte command to show lines in nano   nano +line filename?
[12:52] <WebLOCH> theCore, i attached my HP Deskjet 950C via serial to my computer and added it under the 'printing' dialogs, but whenever I print I am told the document is sent to the printer  nad nothing happens
[12:52] <lightbright> smo: you just tell me what not to do because of personal reasons, yet offer me NO other solution!  I have to ger printer to work, so please offer ideas or solutions
[12:52] <topyli> purplefeltangel: oh, i'd let other people try first. then, it's an installer bug
[12:52] <theCore> WebLOCH, ah a bad driver problem
[12:52] <myk3> `can someone help me
[12:52] <lightbright> WebLOCH: my Canon iP1500 is not in printer listing
[12:52] <myk3> ?
[12:52] <myk3> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!
[12:53] <theCore> WebLOCH, you see Printer status Ready, right ?
[12:53] <xxvii> anyone know of a quality mp3/CD player with cool interface.. not xine or xmms.. need it for GNOME
[12:53] <WebLOCH> theCore, I added it from the options in the dialogs, I haven't installed a driver yet, its the drive that came with it...  yeah Status is set to Ready
[12:53] <lightbright> smo: its no good just saying everything is bad to try, offer SOLUTIONS :)
[12:54] <theCore> WebLOCH, yea, that's a driver problem
[12:54] <gepatino> myk3, it seems like you need some libs installed
[12:54] <WebLOCH> theCore, they shipped ubuntu with bad drivers?
[12:54] <smo> lightbright, I did say I was biased :)
[12:54] <Remmelas> myk3 sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev should get you what you need, but really, it'd be easier to just install the software from the repositories
[12:54] <lightbright> smo:  ok ok!  so whats a SOLUTION?
[12:54] <gepatino> myk3, try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop package from aptitude
[12:54] <theCore> WebLOCH, no no it just that ubuntu has put the wrong drivers
[12:55] <smo> lightbright, as I said, I found commercial drivers to do the job, and I've no idea how far the 1500 differs from the 3000 in that aspect
[12:55] <theCore> WebLOCH, one sec. i will try to see what i can do
[12:55] <myk3> o yea i forgot to
[12:55] <WebLOCH> theCore, thanks for any assistance
[12:55] <mrchicago> hello
[12:55] <myk3> i wanted to tell everyone i have sucsesfully converted 2 people to linux this week
[12:56] <mrchicago> how can you create your own gdm theme
[12:56] <_jason> myk3, gj
[12:56] <myk3> thnx
[12:56] <myk3> useing ubunut of course
[12:56] <mrchicago> heh
[12:56] <theCore> WebLOCH, did you try reinstalling the printer?
[12:56] <topyli> xxvii: rhythmbox is the gnome default? not good enough?
[12:56] <TokenBad> whats the new website like ubuntuguide.org but for version 5.10?
[12:57] <_jason> mrchicago, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fTutorials
[12:57] <mrchicago> anyone have any idea how to create a gdm theme
[12:57] <Niomi> me again.. sorry for bugging you all. when running the CLI with no GUI on my laptop, sometimes it cuts off the bottom few lines. it does this during boot also.
[12:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell TokenBad about faq
[12:57] <mrchicago> thanks
[12:57] <WebLOCH> theCore, how does one reinstall the printer?  All I did to install it was click on its name from a list... So I don't really know how i would uninstall it and reinstall it, unless you are suggesting I click on its already highlighted name?
[12:57] <gadren> i don't think there is one right now, Token
[12:57] <kemik> where's the guy that disabled the webinterface for cups ?!
[12:57] <rubem> hi there...
[12:58] <theCore> WebLOCH, lets try something
[12:58] <WebLOCH> theCore, it seems that HP only supply windows drivers too, so not sure where I would get my own
[12:58] <rubem> where can I found good apt repos for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:58] <lightbright> smo: you cant be here in the channel all day just telling people not to do this and that etc WITHOUT offering an alternative SOLUTION
[12:58] <WebLOCH> theCore, sure thing, ready when you are
[12:58] <topyli> TokenBad: ubuntuguide was a bad idea to begin with. it helped newbies zero because it didn't explain anything. it also got obsolete very quickly and plain incorrect
[12:58] <lightbright> smo: so you recommend trying a different driver from the Canon list?  eg, 3000?
[12:58] <theCore> WebLOCH, go in System - Admin - Printer
[12:58] <rubem> anyone?
[12:58] <xxvii> topyli: i'm looking for something with a cool looking interface. rhythmbox is what i use, but i'm looking for something out of the ordinary
[12:58] <WebLOCH> lightbright, your problem with smo is academic, you wont get anywhere talking about it, you will just annoy people, including yourself.  If you come to IRC you need to expect certain attitudes unfortunately.
[12:58] <WebLOCH> theCore, im there
[12:59] <WebLOCH> theCore, its listing my printer as Ready
[12:59] <theCore> WebLOCH: deleted any printers there
[12:59] <rubem> anyone know where to find good apt repos for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:59] <lightbright> WebLOCH: yeah true!  theres always ppl like smo who dont ever offer solutions, just what doesnt work :)
[12:59] <topyli> xxvii: oh i dunno. you're looking for looks, you can deal with any kind of usability? ;-)
[12:59] <theCore> WebLOCH: so the only thing that left in is the new printer icon
[12:59] <lexhider> anyone know how to copy files alphabetically? my iriver usb disk plays in order copied.
[12:59] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:00] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah done
[01:00] <SoulPropagation> also, how can you have a badger be breezy?
[01:00] <rubem> ???
[01:00] <theCore> WebLOCH: click New Printer
[01:00] <WebLOCH> lightbright, well I wouldnt say smo has been particularly bad, maybe not as helpful as you would like, but he did say he would be biased
[01:00] <SoulPropagation> rubem: it's in /etc/apt/sources.list already.
[01:00] <WebLOCH> theCore, yup, you can go faster im pretty computer literate
[01:00] <theCore> WebLOCH: fellow *carefully* the instruction
[01:00] <topyli> xxvii: you could of course use a weird skin for something like mplayer or xmms or beep
[01:00] <rubem> SoulPropagation No it is not!
[01:00] <theCore> WebLOCH, okay
[01:01] <myk3> hey
[01:01] <xxvii> topyli: what
[01:01] <myk3> i got past the X erro
[01:01] <myk3> r
[01:01] <theCore> WebLOCH, so ... ?
[01:01] <xxvii> topyli: what's beep?
[01:01] <myk3> now i have another one
[01:01] <rubem> SoulPropagation the lists in the source.list is very bad...
[01:01] <SoulPropagation> !mirrors
[01:01] <ubotu> from memory, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:01] <WebLOCH> theCore,  you just want me to fill in the steps and try again ?
[01:01] <lightbright> WebLOCH: beng biased is 1 thing and then not offering an alternative solution is another!  a person can be biased because they DO HAVE an alterntive solutions, yet smo  doesnt offer that alternative :P lol
[01:01] <topyli> xxvii: beep-media-player is the package. it's the next generation of xmms some people seem to like it
[01:01] <myk3> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:01] <myk3> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[01:01] <theCore> WebLOCH, yep , so i will be sure that is a driver prob
[01:02] <myk3> what is Qt
[01:02] <myk3> ?
[01:02] <WebLOCH> theCore, if i do this, it will be exactly the asme as before
[01:02] <xxvii> topyli: i'll check that out.. it's on apt-get ?
[01:02] <SoulPropagation> myk3: it's KDE's version of GTK
[01:02] <lightbright> topyli: is beep-media-player available now for Ubuntu?
[01:02] <TokenBad> topyli, I know that...but was talking about some info like that was on it
[01:02] <xxvii> topyli: on breezy repos?
[01:02] <myk3> Qt3?
[01:02] <TokenBad> and to be honest that guide helped me alot when used it
[01:02] <lightbright> what is qparted?
[01:02] <topyli> xxvii: lightbright: it should be in universe
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, i added it, nothing is happening
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, got a testsheet pending
[01:03] <xxvii> topyli: thanks
[01:03] <lexhider> anyone know how to copy files alphatically? my iriver usb plays in order copied.
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, well it reckons the job is printing
[01:03] <theCore> WebLOCH, okay ... does the printer work under windows ?
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah
[01:03] <theCore> WebLOCH, so the printer is okay
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah
[01:03] <xxvii> topyli: alright, downloading right now.. thanks man
[01:03] <lightbright> topyli: whats it called qparted?
[01:04] <lightbright> topyli:  is qparted similar to cfdisk?
[01:04] <theCore> WebLOCH, the only remaining cause left is the driver
[01:04] <myk3> QT3?
[01:04] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah you said a number of times, but where do i obtain linux drivers for it?  HP only list windows drivers...
[01:04] <SoulPropagation> lexhider: man ls, look for sort
[01:04] <skapple> can someone tell me how to enable dri on my disc drive? or is it drm?
[01:04] <SoulPropagation> then do cp $(ls -whatever) /whatever
[01:05] <topyli> lightbright: never tried it, but yes, it's a partitioning tool
[01:05] <lightbright> WebLOCH: try this website: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[01:05] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, can I do that and keep directory structure?
[01:05] <SoulPropagation> lexhider: you should be able to
[01:05] <theCore> WebLOCH: the thing is that ubuntu support your printer
[01:05] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, thanks
[01:05] <SoulPropagation> yep
[01:05] <lightbright> topyli: qparted is not found in universe
[01:05] <WebLOCH> lightbright, cheers
[01:05] <sunsun> iwas trying to reinstall the xorg file - and this has ruined my install
[01:05] <WebLOCH> theCore, im not seeing your point
[01:06] <TokenBad> hmm...I added the reps like it supposed to be...but when tried to do like the help says
[01:06] <TokenBad> gives error
[01:06] <topyli> lightbright: so it seems. try gparted instead. it's the same thing but for gnome :)
[01:06] <lightbright> topyli: lol wll im using gnome :P
[01:06] <theCore> WebLOCH: how do add your printer ?
[01:07] <theCore> WebLOCH: automatic or manual ?
[01:07] <WebLOCH> theCore, the way you jhust told me
[01:07] <lightbright> anyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer successfuly under Ubuntu?
[01:08] <topyli> apt-get install sleep
[01:08] <tiziano> hellouu
[01:08] <lightbright> !sleep
[01:08] <ubotu> lightbright: Not a clue
[01:09] <tiziano> do you like UBUNTU?
[01:09] <lightbright> me either, no clue bot :)
[01:09] <TokenBad> like I tried to install the restricted formats and flash and stuff..but it says can't find them
[01:09] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:10] <theCore> WebLOCH: from the 1st dialog did you use Local Printer, or you selected a detected one ?
[01:10] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, ls defaults to sorted alphabetically, I'm not sure how to copy a directory and have it's contents copied alphabetically.
[01:10] <SoulPropagation> *shrug*
[01:10] <lightbright> TokenBad: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <lightbright> TokenBad: then type:  sudo aptitude update
[01:10] <guydebord> ok.  I really have tryed to fix this on my own! I have just set up the wireless system on my laptop. Now I am trying to respecify the network to connect to, but no dice. So wlan is is the wireless card, the interface is active.  The gateway device is wlan. okay? Now, in properties the Network Name (I think is nonspecific) i gave my own name. WEP key blank. configuration DHCP.  Should I try entering IP address manually?  If so what are the Subnet mask and G
[01:10] <guydebord> ateway MAsks?
[01:10] <Sedge> anyone have WoW working on Breezy with just wine? (i don't have cedega), i can't get past the mouse bug
[01:10] <WebLOCH> theCore, I selected Local Printer
[01:11] <WebLOCH> theCore, I have also tried the detected one
[01:11] <WebLOCH> lightbright, cheers for turbo print but it doesnt seem to work
[01:11] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, also need to handle " " intelligently.
[01:11] <theCore> WebLOCH, hum what a wierd problem, you should post it on the forum
[01:13] <theCore> WebLOCH: I verified the drivers supplied in ubuntu are okay
[01:13] <foxiness> when i use fire fox and open many tab by time the system gos slow and very slow without response and the hardisk get loaud... ,and i have 512MB RAM and M 1.4 centrino ...is there sol i think am going to use epiphany
[01:13] <WebLOCH> theCore, keeps saying "printer not connected, retrying in 30 seconds"
[01:14] <mark__> where can i download the w32codecs .deb from?
[01:14] <Sedge> !restricted
[01:14] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:14] <Sedge> check out that link mark__
[01:15] <WebLOCH> !FreeFormats
[01:15] <ubotu> methinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[01:15] <theCore> WebLOCH: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html
[01:15] <mark__> !FreeFormats
[01:15] <foxiness> if any one use epiphany and know about ext to save sessions i will get use it
[01:15] <theCore> WebLOCH: the parallel is'nt supported
[01:15] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:16] <WebLOCH>  theCore, I guess thats that then lol
[01:16] <theCore> WebLOCH: so you will need to plug your printer in the usb
[01:16] <WebLOCH> will need to buy a usb cable then
[01:16] <WebLOCH> cheers for the help
[01:18] <robotgeek> guydebord: if you use dhcp, you don't need gateway's and stuff
[01:18] <SoulPropagation> ...anyone?
[01:20] <tman_ubuntu> How do I change the label name of a mounted usb device?
[01:21] <thompa-A> can someone help with partitioning
[01:21] <david__> Can anyone help me with an Evolution problem?
[01:22] <tman_ubuntu> thompa: what is it you're looking at doing?
[01:22] <thompa-A> i would like to create a persistant home directory first
[01:23] <lightbright> what is libc6 exactly?
[01:23] <tman_ubuntu> That should be easy enough.  Use gparted or qtparted, find free space and then partition a /home directory.
[01:23] <david__> I'm finding that evolution is not seeing the messages in my inbox.
[01:23] <thompa-A> im in manula partitioning and have a 80GB ntfs to shrink, and a 213MB #4 i need to keep for the media player
[01:23] <lightbright> when I use my dvd burner to try to burn something to it using gnomebaker, it says doesnt seem to appear to be juliet or something FAILED!  what can be wrong?
[01:26] <thompa-A> tman_ubuntu: do i delete the ntfs partition and create half for linux?
[01:27] <aeon17x> I had a problem with the latest Linux kernel update.
[01:27] <Teatime_> hi guys I am running ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook with no net connection (need to configure airport!), but I can't seem to install a simple RPM file, and ALIEN is not a recognised command, what shall I do?
[01:27] <foxiness> can i use gparted to resize the current partition on ubuntu ?
[01:28] <tman_ubuntu> Well I'm not familiar with Manula application.  I believe qtparted or gparted will shrink an ntfs partition to free up some space.
[01:28] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:install alien
[01:28] <Teatime_> how do I install alien without a net connection?
[01:28] <thompa-A> sorry i meant manual partitioning
[01:28] <aeon17x> How do I restore my bootup screen back to what it was? It turned to XUbuntu with the mouse thing in the middle... it looks nice, but I want the orange Ubuntu bootup screen. =/
[01:28] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:go to packages.ubuntu.com and download proper package. do it on a computer in some Cafe
[01:29] <Teatime_> do usb sticks auto mount in ubuntu?
[01:29] <Toma-> hey. whats the best way to bnackup encrypted dvds? i wanna copy my family guy season 1 dvd so i dont ruin it :)
[01:29] <shutdownrunner> Teatime_:they should. at least in my case they never failed to mount
[01:29] <robotgeek> Teatime_: airport extreme cards are not supported
[01:29] <Teatime_> ok I will try that first, is alien a .tar.gz?
[01:29] <tman_ubuntu> be back...
[01:30] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:alien is already packaged for ubuntu so it should be .deb
[01:30] <Teatime_> just double click a .deb?
[01:30] <Ueuecoyotl> I messed up the mouse part in xorg.conf without making a backup and now X won't start. Is there a way to restore it?
[01:30] <g00r0n> are there any good instant messenging alternatives to GAIM?
[01:31] <SoulPropagation> g00r0n: kopete
[01:31] <Toma-> Ueuecoyotl: you can try dpkg-reconfigure
[01:31] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:well, no. from command line as root dpkg -i alien[sth] .deb
[01:31] <navarone> teatime > dpkg -i <name>.deb
[01:31] <Toma-> g00r0n: what protocol?
[01:31] <bur[n] er> when gdebi is released, double-clicking a .deb will be possible
[01:32] <g00r0n> aim, microsoft
[01:32] <Teatime_> shadowrunner: how do I get root in the CLI in ubuntu?
[01:32] <Ueuecoyotl> g00r0n: I like Psi (jabber) and use transports to people who use MSN (or other protocols) but it can't send files or anything like that to people who use other protocols. Only messages.
[01:32] <Ueuecoyotl> Toma-: Thanks, I'll try that.
[01:32] <shutdownrunner> Teatime: I use root, because I'm used to it. You can use sudo if you want.
[01:33] <djk_> can anyone recommend a program to create torrents?
[01:33] <Toma-> g00r0n: gaim is the best multi-protocol IM... amsn is the best msn IM tho!
[01:33] <navarone> Ueue> at login screen you can get terminal br pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and login and edit your file
[01:34] <ppjd0tz9> i want set standards for the minimum characters in passwords based on importance
[01:34] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: I don't even get to the login screen. It goes into terminal right away. I tried to edit the file but then I remembered that I didn't remember what to put in the mouse part :)
[01:34] <Teatime_> shadowrunner: ok cool alien is installed, but now I have an error installing my rpm :D
[01:34] <Phoul> Wow this is a nice OS
[01:34] <Phoul> First time on it :)
[01:35] <navarone> Ueue> what kinda mouse? Seriel / usb or ps2?
[01:35] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: Logitech MX1000, USB
[01:35] <Teatime_> shadowrunner: I have dependencies errors :(
[01:36] <ppjd0tz9> i want an mx1000
[01:36] <Ueuecoyotl> It's nice :)
[01:36] <beginxattraction> Hey, ALL of my media players freeze up when I try to play something on them... what could be wrong? I have tried XMMS, Beep, VLC, Totem, amaroK, and Realplayer...
[01:36] <ppjd0tz9> i almost bought that saitek eclipse keyboard the other day but wasnt very impressed with the display
[01:36] <ppjd0tz9> felt cheap
[01:36] <_jason> beginxattraction, elaborate on freeze up... do they start playing?
[01:37] <shutdownrunner> Teatime: that's a problem when you have no connection and you're not using apt
[01:37] <beginxattraction> _jason, no it dosen't play anything... when you press play it just stops and Ihave to force quit
[01:37] <ppjd0tz9> ubuntu is too user friendly. i need to install debian 1.0 or something
[01:37] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:well the only solution is to download all the required packages manually. it might take some time, unfortunately
[01:37] <navarone> Ueue> I have found the mouse section of a conf file you may be able to use or edit to your taste...i will try to paste in pastebin for you...brb
[01:37] <Elsan> Is it dangerous to edit my /etc/fstab file to remove a mount point?
[01:38] <TokenBad> I just tried to issue a command from help page for installing codecs..and it gives error for lame
[01:38] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: Ah thanks!
[01:38] <_jason> beginxattraction, if you run a media player, such as mplayer, in a terminal, do any errors show up in the terminal?
[01:38] <TokenBad> is that not avail anymore?
[01:38] <purplefeltangel> i am an onion ring.
[01:38] <Xenguy> Elsan: not if you backup the file first :-)
[01:38] <beginxattraction> _jason, I haven't tried it...
[01:38] <navarone> anyone...waht is the pastebin url?
[01:38] <Xenguy> navarone: /topic
[01:38] <_jason> TokenBad, what was the command and what help page are you referring to
[01:39] <Elsan> Xenguy: Thanks :p
[01:39] <navarone> danke
[01:39] <vicente> alguien me puede echar una mano?
[01:39] <TokenBad> wiki.ubuntu.com and that lame wasn't found
[01:39] <vicente> como podria instalarme el audacity
[01:39] <Xenguy> Elsan: yw
[01:39] <vicente> me dice que faltan dependencias
[01:39] <TokenBad> and I added the reps
[01:39] <djk_> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <rohan_> hi all
[01:39] <lightbright> when I use my dvd burner to try to burn something to it using gnomebaker, it says doesnt seem to appear to be juliet or something FAILED!  what can be wrong?
[01:40] <lightbright> any help please?
[01:40] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:40] <rohan_> i have backports enabled, but still k3b is not showing up in updates .. why ?
[01:40] <ppjd0tz9> what /list command in chat sorts by amount of users? /list -s -u ?
[01:40] <_jason> TokenBad, did you apt-get update after adding the repos?
[01:40] <ppjd0tz9> xchat
[01:40] <lightbright> rohan_: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <lightbright> rohan_: then update
[01:40] <navarone> Ueue> try this  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4881
[01:40] <Elsan> Can I just remove the floppy line from my /etc/fstab file without any problem? I don't have any floppy drive and I don't want to see any traces of floppy at all.
[01:41] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: has to do with long filenames is my best guess
[01:41] <rohan_> lightbright: thanks
[01:41] <lightbright> Elsan: sounds good to me
[01:41] <TokenBad> _jason, yes
[01:41] <N6REJ> evening everyone... I'm having a very interesting problem with date... please look here... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4882
[01:41] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: Thank you, I'll go try that now.
[01:41] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: yeah that crossed my mind too, but doesnt linux handle long filenames unto DVD?
[01:41] <TokenBad> seems it was renamed to toolame I think
[01:41] <Red-Sox> should I not reboot with the new update?
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> its the type of disc u burn....joliet vs other
[01:42] <navarone> Ueue> np
[01:42] <_jason> TokenBad, what's the exact command you are using
[01:42] <TokenBad> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins toolame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools
[01:42] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: should Jolian and Rockridge be ticked and selected?
[01:42] <Xenguy> Elsan: or just 'comment' the line (i.e. prepend a '#' character)
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: do you mean juliet?
[01:42] <Xenguy> Elsan: (which de-activates the line commented)
[01:43] <lightbright> TokenBad: if you use apt-get to install multiple files, do you use space between them?
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: yes
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: no Joliety
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: no Joliet
[01:43] <Elsan> Xenguy: Oh, better thnaks
[01:43] <_jason> TokenBad, and it fails only on toolame?
[01:43] <PokerFacePenguin> I believe you should choose joliet only
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: do you have gnomebaker?
[01:43] <PokerFacePenguin> on another partition
[01:43] <Xenguy> Elsan: yw
[01:43] <TokenBad> it fails on lame
[01:43] <TokenBad> says it isn't found
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: load gnomebaker and notice when you chose write it has Joliet selected
[01:43] <purplefeltangel> k:-O
[01:44] <Elsan> lightbright: Thanks, gonna try it out.
[01:44] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet_%28file_system%29
[01:44] <delltony> anyone here good with php and mind helping me wth a small problem if so pm me thanks just trying to fgure out how to overcome the 2meg upload limit
[01:44] <_jason> TokenBad, pastebin your soruces and lame isn't in the command you pasted
[01:44] <TokenBad> sorry pasted wrong one
[01:44] <TokenBad> just a sec
[01:44] <servando> #ubuntu
[01:45] <servando> hello
[01:45] <TokenBad> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools
[01:45] <TokenBad> that was the one
[01:45] <servando> I am new to ubuntu
[01:45] <TokenBad> I changed it to toolame cause I did a search for lame
[01:45] <lightbright> TokenBad: what does all that install?
[01:45] <servando> I am trying to install emacs
[01:45] <navarone> welcome to ubuntu setrvando
[01:45] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: in other words, joliet allows longer filenames
[01:45] <_jason> TokenBad, pastebin your sources then because those packages are showing up for me
[01:45] <servando> any help would be great
[01:45] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: should Jolian and Rockridge be ticked and selected when I burn a DVD?
[01:46] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: so why does it say FAILED, joliet not supported
[01:46] <servando> Navarone : hello
[01:46] <bimberi> servando: the package is emacs21
[01:46] <servando> could you tell me how to install
[01:47] <servando> I've been at it for some time now
[01:47] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: do yoiu have gnomebaker? if so load it and notice it says Joliet
[01:47] <bimberi> servando: use synaptic - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:47] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: you probably have too many file formats checked or something...i use KDE as my primary...GNOME is for my development
[01:47] <navarone> hmm...has anyone tried the Lament screensaver? Very nice
[01:47] <servando> thanks
[01:47] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: and I have Joliet selected so why does it say FAILED, joliet not supported
[01:47] <servando> I'll try it now
[01:47] <bimberi> servando: np :)
[01:47] <TokenBad> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4885
[01:47] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: you mean I should use k3b instead?
[01:47] <dpt> Hello everyone
[01:47] <PokerFacePenguin> thats what i use
[01:48] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: you use k3b under Gnome?
[01:48] <Whtiger> Hello! I've looked in several places and I can't seem to find the update guide. I'd like to not lose any data. Thanks.
[01:48] <theCore> What are those wierd msg from my dmesg ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4884
[01:48] <PokerFacePenguin> under kde
[01:48] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin:  can you tell me everything that is selected in your k3b before you burn?
[01:48] <PokerFacePenguin> but it should work under gnome
[01:48] <rraajj> Hey all, I wanted to delete the packages copied by my installer to the hard drive. Where can I find them?
[01:48] <bimberi> hi lightbright :) (no idea regarding your burning issue sorry)
[01:48] <lightbright> Elsan: did that work ok for you?
[01:48] <lightbright> bimberi:  hi there :)
[01:49] <_jason> TokenBad, get rid of "breezy-backports" and change it to just "breezy"
[01:49] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: u burning an .iso or what?
[01:49] <dpt> I have ubuntu in spanish and i use gnome. Now, when i log in i have  an error message in gnome and (translating from spanish itnro english) it says "An already panel running was detected and will end now". Any idea?
[01:49] <lightbright> bimberi:  yeah cant burn DVD says something like failed!  joliet not supported
[01:49] <rohan_> lightbright: are you sure u gave me the right post ?
[01:49] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin:  no drag and drop
[01:49] <rohan_> lightbright: d232 is a problem someone is experiencing
[01:49] <lightbright> rohan_: type: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:49] <servando> no luck using synaptic
[01:50] <servando> here is  the error
[01:50] <servando>  Depends: emacs21-bin-common (=21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[01:50] <lightbright> rohan_:  or go to:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and copy and paste that
[01:50] <rohan_> lightbright: oh, i made a mistake in copy pasting. i used d232
[01:50] <rohan_> :)
[01:50] <servando> man this is a busy channel
[01:50] <bimberi> rraajj: "sudo aptitude clean" does it - /var/cache/apt/archives is the dir
[01:50] <lightbright> rohan_: you need the "d" when uysing wget
[01:50] <TokenBad> _jason, what you mean?
[01:50] <lightbright> rohan_:  just go to:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and copy and paste that
[01:51] <_jason> TokenBad, lines 29 and 30 have "breezy-backports" in them.  Change "breezy-backports" to "breezy".  then "apt-get update" and try again
[01:51] <rraajj> bimberi: Doesn't that delete ALL packages, including the ones I have already downloaded using apt?
[01:52] <rraajj> bimberi: I just wanted to delete the old files, for they're taking up quite a large space in my disk. :)
[01:52] <lightbright> anyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer successfuly under Ubuntu please?
[01:52] <bimberi> rraajj: it removes all the downloaded deb files (see man aptitude)
[01:52] <strokey> Hello! Is anyone here what can help me with a ubuntu partition making/doing and how to get the web with ndiswrapper or whatever its called?
[01:52] <n0dl> is there a list of printers supported by ubuntu somewhere?
[01:52] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: if i had to guess at the prob, i would go to the advanced tab and check allow 101 char filenames
[01:53] <lightbright> bimberi: I was told of a way to install printer drivers by downloading rpm and use alien to convert to deb for Ubuntu!  is this safe?
[01:53] <_jason> nodl, yes search the wiki for printers
[01:53] <xsje> !time format
[01:53] <ubotu> No idea, xsje
[01:53] <PokerFacePenguin> er 103
[01:53] <Phoul> I just installed ubuntu :) i was just wondering how to configure gnome
[01:53] <Phoul> Like how do i do it?
[01:53] <TokenBad> _jason, isn't that line the first couple lines listed?
[01:53] <bimberi> servando: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:53] <servando> wow I am glad to see I am not the only one having trouble
[01:53] <TokenBad> where it says breezy main restricted
[01:53] <servando> sure
[01:54] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: gnomebaker doesnt have advanced tab
[01:54] <PokerFacePenguin> k3b
[01:54] <dooglus> nalioth: thanks for the "man ntfsresize" tip.  that worked for me eventually.  I had to "chkdsk /f" from windows, which ntfsresize told me to do.
[01:54] <bimberi> lightbright: should be ok, worth a try if you've exhausted other avenues
[01:54] <nalioth> dooglus: good show!
[01:54] <_jason> TokenBad, no, you must be misunderstanding me, join me in #flood for a second
[01:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  yeah :)
[01:54] <strokey> Can anyone here guide a little newbie on how to go about installing ubuntu and using ndispapper? or something
[01:54] <dooglus> nalioth: I had to get drunk before I was brave enough to run the actual resize mind.  but it worked :)
[01:54] <rohan_> lightbright: that still doesnt update my k3b from breezy-backports
[01:54] <PokerFacePenguin> ndiswrapper
[01:55] <strokey> thats it ;o
[01:55] <strokey> I tried the live cd, but i couldent seem to get ndiswrapper to..do anything
[01:55] <lightbright> rohan_: go to that website I gave you anbd copy that and paste into your sources.list
[01:55] <lightbright> rohan_:  than type:  sudo aptitude update
[01:55] <bimberi> strokey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:55] <n0dl>  _jason: whats the search word i tried ubuntu supported printers and ubuntu printers
[01:55] <PokerFacePenguin> strokey: was the wifi card enabled with iwconfig?
[01:55] <lightbright> rohan_:  then type sudo aptitude install k3b
[01:55] <strokey> bimberi , all my websites seem to be blocked atm :/
[01:56] <Weng> Alright, so I've got a system set up that absolutely refuses to in any way, shape, or form, acknowledge the existance of any new or changed hardware until I reinstall Ubuntu. Thoughts on how I can actually avoid re-setting-up this server another 15 times because the hardware has to change subtly?
[01:56] <Phoul> Is anyone willing to help me?...
[01:56] <servando> hey this is a really long are you sure you want it
[01:56] <_jason> nodl, just put "printers" and look at the links, it should be the first one
[01:56] <rohan_> lightbright: ok, k3b is not there for i386
[01:56] <rohan_> thanks anyway
[01:56] <rohan_> :)
[01:56] <rohan_> cya
[01:56] <lightbright> rohan_:  Uncoment backports
[01:56] <lightbright> rohan you need to remove the #
[01:56] <strokey> PokerFacePenguin: can we PM ? This channel is crowded :x
[01:56] <Teatime_> shadowrunner:  10 PACKAGES! to install 1!
[01:56] <bimberi> servando: yes but don't paste it here, put it on that site and give me the url
[01:56] <Phoul> Is somone willing to help me out?
[01:56] <reza> hello
[01:56] <servando> k
[01:56] <intelikey> Phoul that is a bad question.      you might try just asking what you need to know.
[01:57] <Weng> For example, I added a new NIC, in this case, eth1. Ubuntu doesn't see eth1, and even if I manually edit the config files, it refuses to use eth1.
[01:57] <Phoul> Heh well im new and i would like to know some nice stuff about ubuntu
[01:57] <Weng> If I were to reinstall, setup would see eth1, and the resulting system would be able to use eth1.
[01:57] <The_Vox> anybody got a clue about how to find which packages, installed or not, depend on a particular package?
[01:57] <navarone> lightbright > check this url for printer info  http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2005q2/002129.html
[01:58] <servando> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4886
[01:58] <intelikey> nice stuff about ub.... hmmm it's free, it's open source, it is well supported....
[01:58] <Elsan> lightbright: Sorry for not responding. Yes it did, I'm still here, I'm always scared it won't reboot(I did some errors before). It doesn't show up in "Poste de travail" folder(My Computer in english?)
[01:58] <Phoul> anyone?
[01:58] <Phuzion> Can someone suggest a good free SSH client for Windows?
[01:58] <Weng> So, I'm thinking something's a little odd in the hotplug components - any known issues with the Intel Serverworks chipsets?
[01:58] <djk_> can anyone recommend a program to create torrents, azureus is giving me problems?
[01:58] <Phuzion> Because PuTTY is making me mad.
[01:58] <The_Vox> Phuzion: putty is usually the best there is...why is it making you mad?
[01:59] <Elsan> How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...
[01:59] <Phuzion> You can't go back to the menu screen after making a connection.
[01:59] <Phoul> okay i have a real question now :P
[01:59] <Phoul> Where do i go to configure gnome?
[01:59] <n0dl> does anyone know the wiki search word for ubuntu supported printers?
[01:59] <Teatime_> what is the command to change the permissions on a folder to r w x
[01:59] <Phuzion> Teatime:  chmod rwx filename
[01:59] <servando> I think  see what you are up to I need to uncomment something from the sources.list   Right ?
[01:59] <Phuzion> foldername*
[02:00] <SWAT> will Ubuntu run well on a Celeron 1.4ghz with 512ram? (laptop)
[02:00] <Phuzion> Definately.
[02:00] <SWAT> nice :)
[02:00] <SWAT> thanks
[02:00] <Phoul> Could somone help me?
[02:00] <The_Vox> Phuzion: you mean the connect screen?
[02:00] <Phuzion> Yes
[02:00] <bimberi> servando: ok, you only have the cdrom enabled at present - you need to enable the online repositories -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:00] <lightbright> if I want to apt-get install 15 files, do I use apt-get install file1 file2 file3 ?
[02:00] <_jason> lightbright, yes
[02:00] <Phoul> Umm
[02:01] <lightbright> _jason: cool thanks
[02:01] <servando> sweet
[02:01] <Phuzion> lightbright, don't put commas or any crap between them
[02:01] <Phoul> Is there anyone who can help me figure out where i can configure linux
[02:01] <Phoul> I mean gnome*
[02:01] <The_Vox> Phuzion: uhm...no, you can't go back to that, you need to close putty and open it again...it's one of the few misdesigns of it that I've noticed the few times I've had to use it
[02:01] <cocox> hi dudes all the linux distros use the same kernell ?
[02:01] <navarone> Lightbright> did you go to page wiht printer info?
[02:01] <lightbright> Phuzion: ok just empty space
[02:01] <The_Vox> Phoul: in your menu there must be a Control Center or similarly named link...click it
[02:01] <lightbright> navarone: what page?
[02:01] <Phuzion> lightbright, yes
[02:01] <navarone> http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2005q2/002129.html
[02:02] <jacobu> I am having trouble with an HP zv6000 laptop, running ubuntu 5.10 x64.  x.org says that it is not configured properly and crashes.  I have an ati radeon xpress 200M built into this thing.  Does anybody know what might cause this and/or have a solution?
[02:02] <lightbright> navarone: no sorry i miised your message!  will go now :) brb
[02:02] <Phuzion> lightbright:  apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server5
[02:02] <navarone> lightbright> np
[02:02] <Phoul> The_Vox: where?.... i dont see it
[02:02] <bimberi> cocox: they use the linux kernel yes, but each would have their own variants
[02:03] <cocox> oh thank u and what is the last release for the ubuntu kernell ?
[02:03] <The_Vox> Phoul: I can't tell you exactly where 'cause I don't use gnome, but I'm pretty sure there is one
[02:03] <bimberi> cocox: 2.6.12 (in ubuntu breezy)
[02:03] <Phoul> The_vox do you use KDE?
[02:03] <The_Vox> Phoul: if you can't find it, open a terminal and type "gnome-control-center" (no quotemarks) and hit enter
[02:03] <lightbright> navarone: great thanlks, problem is I cant read Canon.jp to find the canon printer files :(  I cant read Japanese
[02:03] <The_Vox> Phoul: yes, I use kde
[02:03] <varsendagger> has anyone gotten quake 2 to work?
[02:04] <varsendagger> there should be a wiki
[02:04] <n0dl> does anyone know if Canon S300 works with ubuntu
[02:04] <Phoul> Umm vox how do i get kde? i didnt install kubuntu is there anyway tho?
[02:04] <bimberi> cocox: dapper (the ubuntu develoopment release) might have something later but i'm not sure
[02:04] <LjL> Phoul: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <Phoul> sudo? aptitude?
[02:04] <navarone> lightbright> if you traced thread back the author gives his site where files are  http://linux.cergynux.net/canon/   I would think you need the deb file with ip1500 in the name
[02:04] <varsendagger> Phoul, what are you dong
[02:05] <varsendagger> doing
[02:05] <LjL> Phoul: typing that will install your KDE desktop
[02:05] <Phoul> Im trying to get kde
[02:05] <varsendagger> ahh
[02:05] <cocox> i have activaded the automatic updates here in ubuntu ... it will upgrade automaticaly my kernell every new released?????????
[02:05] <Phoul> ljl will it leave gnome?
[02:05] <seth_slackware> hey
[02:05] <Phoul> Because i like both...
[02:05] <LjL> Phoul: yes
[02:05] <Phoul> Okay
[02:05] <dpt> Hello everyone
[02:05] <dpt> I have ubuntu in spanish and i use gnome. Now, when i log in i have  an error message in gnome and (translating from spanish itnro english) it says "An already panel running was detected and will end now". Any idea?
[02:05] <LjL> Phoul: only disadvantage, the menus will be a bit of a mess, as both KDE and Gnome programs will be found in the same menus
[02:05] <seth_slackware> Just did a free install of brezzy and have 1 little issue
[02:05] <servando> bimberi : Thank you very much I got it
[02:05] <dpt> i do not know how to avoid getting that msg when i log in
[02:06] <seth_slackware> libgl1-mesa-dri is broken and apt-get will not fix it
[02:06] <SWAT> Phuzion, still there?
[02:06] <bimberi> servando: great! np :)
[02:06] <navarone> lightbright> I think the last file on the page...1.8 mb
[02:06] <lightbright> navarone: yes I found that website!  and may I ask your opion about soemthing!  Some guy says to use alian to avoid having to install Debian libc6!
[02:06] <nalioth> seth_slackware: if you open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get intall libgl1-mesa-dri" it'll tell you how to fix it
[02:06] <asonjay99> where can i get good linux themes and what not
[02:06] <lightbright> navarone:  can you look at this pls: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=56725&pp=10
[02:06] <SWAT> Phuzion, what would you say about this laptop (office/programming purposes) HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6110, Celeron M360 1.4GHz, 768MB RAM, 15"TFT (1024*768), 40GB HD, Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN ?
[02:06] <lightbright> navarone:  and scroll to bottom please
[02:06] <SWAT> Phuzion, I only want a 2nd opinion :-)
[02:07] <lightbright> navarone: sctoll to: "Well, actually, you don't need to reinstall libc6. Ubuntu's version works quite well for the driver. It's just not recognized as appropriate by dpkg."
[02:07] <cocox> i have activaded the automatic updates here in ubuntu ... it will upgrade automaticaly my kernell every new released?????????
[02:07] <lightbright> navarone:  whats your personal opinion about doing it that way and converting the rpm using alien as that guy recommedned?>
[02:07] <bimberi> cocox: no, the automatic updates will continue to update your current release's (eg. breezy) kernel which almost certainly won't change version.  You have to take action to go to the next ubuntu release
[02:07] <servando> I am rolling now
[02:08] <lightbright> navarone:  I value your view, so I wanted to ask
[02:08] <servando> I got my beloved emacs
[02:08] <seth_slackware> nelioth: I get a apt-get error 5lineish, can I flood?
[02:08] <bimberi> servando: :)
[02:08] <servando> I take back all the mean things I have said about Ubuntu
[02:08] <asonjay99> does anyone know wher i can find themes for ubuntu
[02:08] <bimberi> seth_slackware: no, pastebin please - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:08] <bimberi> !themes
[02:09] <armor98926> hey people
[02:09] <_jason> asonjay99, do you use gnome?
[02:09] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: allien can get you in trouble...handle with care
[02:09] <asonjay99> yes
[02:09] <seth_slackware> ok
[02:09] <armor98926> can anyone tell me how to get something equivalent to flash player 8
[02:09] <bimberi> hm, !themes factoid too long
[02:09] <navarone> lightbright> if you feel more comfortable installing and using alien go for it. I don't think it will bring your system crashing down either way. I have installed some debs from other sources and have not experienced any bad effects. But maybe someone here would be better qualified to respond to your concerns
[02:09] <_jason> asonjay99, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[02:09] <asonjay99> _jason: thank you
[02:09] <bimberi> ubotu tell asonjay99 about themes
[02:09] <Phoul> Umm
[02:10] <varsendagger> lightbright, what are you installing
[02:10] <Phoul> It keeps timing me out
[02:10] <TokenBad> what version of mplayer should I get if I am normal pc?
[02:10] <Phoul> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop <-- it gets part way then times me out
[02:10] <TokenBad> the 386 one right?
[02:10] <lightbright> navarone: ok ty
[02:10] <servando> guess I'll stick around for a while to see what I can learn
[02:10] <armor98926> where can i get something equivalant for flash player 8?
[02:10] <lightbright> varsendagger:  my Canon printer!  Please read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=56725&pp=10
[02:11] <armor98926> equivalent to*
[02:11] <navarone> varsendagger> he want to get printer drivers in deb file and is concerned that they could be unstable as people have suggested using alien instead to convert rpm to deb first
[02:11] <seth_slackware> nelioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4888
[02:11] <iamkirk> wow , i need help badly
[02:11] <bimberi> armor98926: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <cyphase> does anyone have a wireless card working on a desktop out of the box?
[02:11] <cyphase> running ubuntu of course
[02:11] <armor98926> bimberi: what would that do?
[02:11] <lightbright> varsendagger:  notice at end of that page some guy recommened instead to use alien so I dont have to use Debian libc6 overwrtring the Ubuntu one
[02:11] <servando> I have read that espon printers work the best for linux
[02:11] <iamkirk> Im getting grub error 17..... wtf do i so i cant boot into anything
[02:11] <cyphase> servando, mine works at least :)
[02:11] <lightbright> varsendagger: whats your thoughts?
[02:12] <bur[n] er> Seveas: u play with that bmp fork yet?  I know you're a bmp fan
[02:12] <cocox> bimberi: thnx u a looooooot :)
[02:12] <servando> I am thinking about buying a espon
[02:12] <bimberi> armor98926: it includes details on installing flashplayer.  Or are you after 8 specifically?
[02:12] <bimberi> cocox: np :)
[02:12] <_jason> servando, see what they say at linuxprinting.org if you haven't yet
[02:12] <armor98926> bimberi: im after any of them
[02:12] <lightbright> navarone: yeah because I read its not good idea to install the Debian libc6 over Ubuntu!  So it seems safer to alien the rpm saving me having to install Debian libc6
[02:13] <lightbright> navarone:  both ways have drawbacks, yet I wonder which was is the best
[02:13] <armor98926> bimberi: so well that tell me how to do it or is that where i can install it from?
[02:13] <iamkirk> GRUB loading, please wait...
[02:13] <navarone> lightbright> apples and oranges my friend ;)
[02:13] <iamkirk> Error 17
[02:13] <servando> I currently have a lexmark X75
[02:13] <varsendagger> i would agree with not overwrighting libc6  - i personally don't know what libc6 is but it sounds important
[02:13] <iamkirk> can anyone help me
[02:13] <servando> what a piece of junk
[02:13] <bimberi> servando: http://linuxprinting.org/suggested.html
[02:13] <lightbright> navarone:  or I can install the Debian libc6 and then remove it after printer is set up and install the Ubuntu libc6 again!  Whats you think?
[02:13] <lightbright> navarone:  which way would you go? :)
[02:13] <bimberi> armor98926: how to do it :)
[02:13] <servando> I bought it cause it was cheaper to buy a bew printer than to buy more ink
[02:14] <lightbright> navarone: the apples or the oranges? :)
[02:14] <armor98926> bimberi: ok thanx
[02:14] <intelikey> iamkirk google grub error 17 ?
[02:14] <servando> Now I see why
[02:14] <armor98926> later people
[02:14] <varsendagger> lightbright, i have aliend other programs, in fact the rpm's form OO.o run alot alot better then the one i can apt-get
[02:14] <iamkirk> Intelikey : 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[02:14] <iamkirk> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[02:14] <Milk_> Good evening!
[02:14] <Weng> So, no ideas on why hardware detection refuses to work for me?
[02:15] <lightbright> varsendagger: ok so what you recommend?  alien the rpm so I dont have to overwrite Ubuntu libc6 ?
[02:15] <servando> Got Milk
[02:15] <Milk_> has anyone ever tried to install TinyFugue?
[02:15] <iamkirk> any idea how to fix this without formatting again.... trying to get this working for 2 days
[02:15] <servando> sorry I had to say that
[02:15] <Milk_> servando, hehehe
[02:15] <navarone> lightbright...use alien...you never know when you will need it again a ta later date for another install
[02:15] <seth_slackware> Can someone please look at this error, trying to fix broken libgl1 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4888
[02:15] <Milk_> servando, happens all the time
[02:15] <lightbright> navarone: ok Ill do it that way
[02:15] <pc22> how do u install a *.run file
[02:15] <bimberi> seth_slackware: hm, try "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri_6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1_i386.deb" and retry (also you're misspelling the nick you've been addressing)
[02:15] <seth_slackware> pc22 chmod it right and ./ it
[02:15] <Milk_> pc22, ./FILE or sh FILE
[02:16] <varsendagger> lightbright, yes that is what i'd recommend, i don't thing anything will get hurt
[02:16] <pc22> thanks
[02:16] <intelikey> iamkirk what is the fs type ?
[02:16] <iamkirk> ent 3 or something
[02:16] <Milk_> Ok.. differnet question.. does anyone MUD and can you recomend a client?
[02:17] <n0dl> does anyone know a good site on how to use non web based email?
[02:17] <intelikey> ext3 ?
[02:17] <iamkirk> thats it
[02:17] <iamkirk> cani pm you ?
[02:17] <Got_Milk> Hello Milk_
[02:17] <bimberi> navarone: which album? :)
[02:17] <intelikey> na keep it here.
[02:17] <iamkirk> ok
[02:17] <seth_slackware> bimberi: Worked thanks alot
[02:17] <Milk_> Got_Milk, hehehe
[02:18] <iamkirk> this is gonna take some space....
[02:18] <bimberi> seth_slackware: great! np :)
[02:18] <Got_Milk> change nick
[02:18] <Got_Milk> it is I Servando
[02:18] <intelikey> don't flood.
[02:18] <navarone> bimberi> I have assorted...Listening to once upon a time in the west atm
[02:18] <Milk_> am I really the only one who muds?
[02:18] <intelikey> !paste
[02:18] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:18] <intelikey> iamkirk ^
[02:18] <pc22> what is a dialog program?
[02:18] <kbrooks> ping.
[02:19] <bimberi> navarone: ah :)
[02:19] <kbrooks> How do I get quicktime movies to play?
[02:19] <kbrooks> totem complains of a decoder
[02:19] <navarone> bimberi> I've been adding to my collection...<s>
[02:19] <Got_Milk> wish I could be of more help here
[02:19] <kbrooks> whatever that is
[02:19] <Got_Milk> but
[02:19] <iamkirk> I just got everything working... or so i thought... I ended up installing windows on the laptop as well.....  so i have : 10gb partition for windows... 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and the remaining 45 in an extended partition setup as logical drives...
[02:19] <Milk_> kbrooks, theres a great howto on the wiki about codecs
[02:19] <kbrooks> Milk_, url
[02:19] <Got_Milk> it seems that bimberi has it under control
[02:20] <iamkirk> everything worked fine until i diced up the remaining 45 into the logical drives
[02:20] <mindlace> I have a machine with a XFX SATA RAID card. It is supported by the generic_ide module after 2.6.13. What's the easiest way for me to get to a new .iso that's just like the existing one except with 2.6.13?
[02:20] <Milk_> kbrooks, http://wiki.ubuntu.com  search for media
[02:20] <iamkirk> now i am getting the error 17 about not being able tyo mount the drive
[02:20] <mindlace> (kernel 2.6.13)
[02:20] <bimberi> Got_Milk: heh, no way, just lucky there a few queries i could help with :P
[02:20] <kbrooks> site:wiki.ubuntu.com media < faster
[02:20] <bimberi> *there was
[02:20] <towsonu2003> hi, I am a little panicked about this kernel upgrade... being a newbie and so on... when I do the upgrade, will my old kernels (I have 2, 386 and 686) stay in GRUB so that I can boot ubuntu even if new kernels don't work??? also, what is the total number of entries grub can hold?? I currently have 7 entries (3 for each kernel   1 for windows)??? I'm gonna have a heart attack (and it's gonna be hard to download all thru dial u
[02:21] <navarone> gotta like multiple workplaces...putting file browser and xmss in workplace 2 keeps things tidy
[02:21] <towsonu2003> wow that was a long question => sorry all...
[02:21] <Milk_> kbrooks, didn't realise I was here to make your life faster *WINK*
[02:21] <intelikey> you ran windows fdisk and made the extended partition iamkirk ?
[02:21] <iamkirk> yea
[02:21] <lightbright> varsendagger: ok thanks for your time and help
[02:21] <iamkirk> did it from the point click manager
[02:21] <pirx> hi! if i want a module to load with some certain option, where do i spec that in the startup files? (5.10)
[02:21] <iamkirk> if you get what i mean
[02:22] <intelikey> iamkirk i'm sorry.....  good luck with it.    (you will need it)
[02:22] <kbrooks> milk_: lol
[02:22] <robotgeek> pirx: mostly in /etc/modprobe.d/
[02:22] <iamkirk> really ?
[02:22] <varsendagger> lightbright, hope it goes well
[02:22] <lightbright> do I need to install anything else besides this to get full mulitmedia support, eg, play mp3 and video files etc?
[02:22] <lightbright> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[02:22] <cyphase> Does anyone have a PCI wireless card working on an Ubuntu desktop out of the box?
[02:22] <lightbright> varsendagger:  thanks im going to do all that a little later and tell you the feedback thanks agian :)
[02:22] <varsendagger> cool
[02:23] <varsendagger> Red-Sox, hey!!!
[02:23] <intelikey> iamkirk it has messed up your partition table.   you may be able to fix it.    or may not.
[02:23] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, hey
[02:23] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, I got it done
[02:23] <varsendagger> nice
[02:23] <armor98926> bimberi: hey im trying to view text on a game what do i need?
[02:23] <varsendagger> it wasn't so bad
[02:23] <iamkirk> well im in the partition manager from the ubuntu cd
[02:23] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, thank you soooooo much
[02:23] <towsonu2003> anyone who can help me?
[02:23] <Milk_> well.. I"m off to see if I can't figure out what is wrong with tinyfugue
[02:23] <pc22> what is a dialog program?
[02:23] <iamkirk> i ended up booting from cd.... ive just formatted so ive nothing on the laptop im worried about
[02:23] <bimberi> lightbright: you might need w32codecs, but that should be enough for starters
[02:24] <iamkirk> this would be my 3rd time in 2 days installing ubuntu
[02:24] <lightbright> bimberi:  ah yes I knew I forgot something :) thanks
[02:24] <iamkirk> you have no advice at all ?
[02:24] <intelikey> some one should build a partition tabel rebuilding tool.   that can fix these hibird disks.
[02:24] <lightbright> bimberi:  and after installing all that, do I have to type: gst-register-0.8  ?
[02:24] <varsendagger> Red-Sox, what was it that naolith sugested using to install checkinstall
[02:24] <intelikey> no iamkirk sorry, i don't.
[02:24] <navarone> towsonou> after you confirm new kernel is stable you can probalby delete backup and edit ftab to remove the entries pointing to them
[02:24] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, thats it, thats what it wa
[02:24] <iamkirk> see if i wasnt installing windows i wouldnt have a problem
[02:25] <Red-Sox> s*
[02:25] <iamkirk> fucking winblows is a problem to the bitter end
[02:25] <bimberi> armor98926: where is the text, in a file?
[02:25] <iamkirk> ima kick bill gates in the junk
[02:25] <varsendagger> are there any women here? --- im not being weird, my wife wants to know
[02:25] <varsendagger> iamkirk, true that
[02:25] <method55> i just updated firefox from 1.0.0 to 1.0.7 with the updater and now it doesnt run...i am new to linux
[02:25] <armor98926> bimberi: i dont know its in an actual game so i dont think it is
[02:25] <navarone> iamkirk> he won't feel it...he keeps his wallet next to his junk ;)
[02:25] <nalioth> iamkirk: please be respectful of others
[02:25] <armor98926> bimberi: its an online game
[02:25] <iamkirk> sorry... was just venting
[02:26] <towsonu2003> navarone : so, after kernel upgrade (from I believe 2.9.10 to 2.9.12), old kernels will stay in place and GRUB has no limits.. is that correct / did I understand it correctly?
[02:26] <Greves> how can i enable remote desktop (securely) to access it from an off-network site?
[02:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell varsendagger about checkinstall
[02:26] <mindlace> so ok I see how I can compile a new kernel, but how do I make a new install .iso?
[02:26] <bimberi> armor98926: hard to know sorry, in a bash shell you can "cat" it, or use gedit to view in gui
[02:26] <armor98926> bimberi: cat it whats that mean?
[02:26] <intelikey> iamkirk i do have a sujestion, but you wont like it.     erase everything, install windows on the hd leaving all the free space for other partitions you can and then install linux,  afterwards from within linux make logical drives as desired.
[02:26] <kjcole> method55, try:  cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/weirdnumber/ ; rm XUL.*
[02:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: I need some serious help.... /dev/hda6 is /var/lib/mysql and for some reason it doesn't mount on reboot and there IS an entry in fstab
[02:27] <iamkirk> well see someone gave me somewhat similar advice to that
[02:27] <navarone> towsonou> I don't kow about no limits...but I think you shouldn't fret to much about it. I did kernel upgrade to new 383 and then upgraded again to the 686 arch without prob
[02:27] <iamkirk> they just said to do the parts from winblows instead
[02:27] <iamkirk> things might work after just reinstalling ubuntu
[02:27] <Greves> ?
[02:27] <varsendagger> nalioth, that is awesome
[02:27] <bimberi> armor98926: cat <file>    <- displays the contents of a file (short for catenate)
[02:27] <iamkirk> all i know is ive got the installation of ubuntu down pat ;P
[02:28] <iamkirk> ill let you know how it goes intel
[02:28] <armor98926> bimberi: how can i do that. have you heard of gaio online? if so thats what i cant view is the text in the trainstation area
[02:28] <Got_Milk> well I wanted to say thanks for the help I am off to explore the other channels
[02:28] <Got_Milk> but
[02:28] <iamkirk> what im doing now is only affecting my ext3 and swap partitions
[02:28] <bimberi> armor98926: if it's a long file you can use "less <file>" which lets you step through the file (amongst other things)
[02:28] <Got_Milk> I'll be back
[02:29] <iamkirk> leaving my 2 FAT32 and windows partitions
[02:29] <intelikey> windows didn't used to be able to handle more than one primary partition iamkirk, that is the reason i say use linux to do your extended partitioning, so it doesn't mess with the primaries.
[02:29] <towsonu2003> oki, thanks :)
[02:29] <bimberi> armor98926: aha, sorry i don't how in that environment :/
[02:29] <iamkirk> windows can handle 4
[02:29] <armor98926> bimberi: do you know what im talking about though?
[02:29] <iamkirk> i have 3 and an extended seperated into two logical
[02:30] <intelikey> k that would be xp then, you never specified winver.
[02:30] <kbrooks> http://mochikit.com/screencasts/MochiKit_Intro-1.mov
[02:30] <iamkirk> im sorry , my bad
[02:30] <bimberi> armor98926: i think so :)
[02:30] <iamkirk> ill be clearer next time , as you will hear from me again
[02:30] <kjcole> by the way, if  you like 'less', try 'most'.   it's  in universe, and it's a great pager.
[02:30] <intelikey> k
[02:30] <kbrooks> "totem coulde not play fd://0"
[02:30] <iamkirk> do you ise messenger intel ?
[02:30] <iamkirk> *use
[02:31] <kbrooks> there are no decoders found to handle the stream
[02:31] <intelikey> no
[02:31] <armor98926> bimberi: so you have heard of the site and im talking about the bots in the court yard you know you have to click them to talk to them but i cant see the text that comes up
[02:31] <ravv> Im mounting a share over sshfs, is there any way to make it try ti estabkish the connection automaticaklly periodically?
[02:31] <kbrooks> and i might want to install plugins
[02:31] <ravv> dammit hard to speel in the dark
[02:31] <kbrooks> "totem coulde not play fd://0"
[02:31] <armor98926> bimberi: hopefully that helps out a little
[02:31] <Greves> is there a way to secureyl open up remote desktop to the internet, so i can log onto my home linux box from my work windows box?
[02:31] <bimberi> armor98926: no, i've not played that game, i understand the issue, but i don't think i can offer much help sorry
[02:32] <nalioth> Greves: do it over an ssh tunnel
[02:32] <armor98926> bimberi: alright thanx anyway
[02:32] <kbrooks> "there are no decoders found to handle the stream  and  i might want to install plugins"
[02:32] <Greves> nalioth: do you have some instructions or a page that does?
[02:32] <armor98926> does anyone play on gaiaonline?
[02:33] <typewriter> is there any problems running 64bit ubuntu?
[02:34] <iamkirk> wow.... did you see this intel.. ?
[02:34] <iamkirk> When a system has multiple HDDs the /boot partition has to be on the first hard disk that BIOS boots from and preferebly on the first 1024 cylinder (~8.5GB area) some system BIOS cannot reach any further
[02:34] <iamkirk> learn something new every day :P
[02:34] <Weng> Alright
[02:34] <vanguard> Yo.
[02:34] <Weng> lets try phrasing it this way
[02:34] <nalioth> Greves: ask uncle google "vnc ssh tunnel"
[02:34] <Weng> is there any way that I can FORCE the system to rescan hardware?
[02:34] <ravv> Greves, ssh tunnel using putty
[02:34] <bimberi> typewriter: well no, unless nonfree binary formats are important to you (flash, java ...).  also wine isn't available (possibly a good thing :P)
[02:34] <zblach> hey. i can't remember. how to burn .bin and .cue in ubuntu?
[02:35] <intelikey> iamkirk yeah.
[02:35] <Weng> Since dmesg hasn't been updated... EVER, I can only assume it's actually NOT scanning during boot.
[02:35] <kbrooks> Weng, man sfdisk
[02:35] <Weng> (how that's even possible, I can't even begin to imagine.
[02:35] <armor98926> bimberi: speaking of wine how do i get a good version of it on my pc?
[02:35] <bimberi> typewriter: sorry, java is available (D'Oh)
[02:35] <armor98926> bimberi: and with wine cant i install window things?
[02:35] <nalioth> ravv: putty is for windows
[02:36] <ravv> DUH
[02:36] <[3Style] > PokerFacePenguin: um
[02:36] <bimberi> armor98926: it's in the ubuntu repositories
[02:36] <zblach> how to burn .bin with ubuntu? i can't remember which program (if any) i need
[02:37] <bimberi> armor98926: theoretically yes, check for what runs at http://winehq.org
[02:37] <kbrooks> zblach, bin2iso ?
[02:37] <armor98926> bimberi: what do you mean sorry im not that great with programs
[02:37] <Weng> kbrooks: I fail to see how changing the partition tables on the drives it can see is going to help it see the other drives I just added, or to see the NICs that it's ignoring.
[02:37] <IamSam> hey
[02:37] <IamSam> has anyone seen the python channel
[02:37] <pjssilva> Hello, I have two systems experiment major kernel leaks. I believe it may be related to inotify and the following bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18473. Is there anybody else experimenting weird memory leaks in their system?
[02:38] <iamkirk> Intel... once i got ubuntu to write grub to the mbr things seem to be working fine
[02:38] <zblach> kbrooks, can't seem to find that one with synaptic.
[02:38] <intelikey> iamkirk some system installers prefer to make a /boot partition on the first data sector of the hd of about 50m - 250m in size.  but that is mostly for multi-boot systems where you may have 4/5 *nix + 1/2 windows systems installed and maybe vmware.
[02:38] <typewriter> all the US mirrors are slow...
[02:39] <bimberi> armor98926: "sudo aptitude install wine" will install it (or use synaptic)
[02:39] <lightbright> is it hard to install limewire?
[02:40] <armor98926> bimberi: thanx
[02:40] <LjL> !tell lightbright about limewire
[02:40] <kbrooks> http://mochikit.com/screencasts/MochiKit_Intro-1.mov < plays fine?
[02:40] <bimberi> armor98926: np :)
[02:40] <_jason> kbrooks, yes
[02:40] <devilz> hi
[02:40] <devilz> can i ask someone where can i get password of root
[02:40] <devilz> i just installed ubuntu
[02:40] <_jason> kbrooks, well the last link you pasted did, I assume that's the same one?
[02:40] <intelikey> !root
[02:40] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:40] <lightbright> LjL: thanks :)
[02:40] <armor98926> later people and thanx again
[02:41] <bimberi> armor98926: cya :)
[02:41] <intelikey> devilz root password is not set unless you set it.
[02:41] <devilz> intelikey, well
[02:41] <devilz> how i set it
[02:41] <lightbright> LjL: how do I install Java?
[02:42] <lightbright> !tell lightbright about Java
[02:42] <LjL> !tell lightbright about javadebs
[02:42] <kbrooks> itokay
[02:42] <kbrooks> ok
[02:42] <bimberi> lightbright: you can "/msg ubotu java" too :)
[02:42] <intelikey> devilz 'sudo passwd '   and when it first asks for your password type your user password, then follow the instructions.
[02:42] <navarone> lightbright> in Add Applications Internet/More programs you can install Blackdown java...it will tell it must enable multiverse repos first
[02:43] <lightbright> bimberi:  yes I realised that now as it told me :) hehe sorry
[02:43] <_jason> devilz, you don't need root, just use sudo for everything
[02:43] <lightbright> navarone: ok thanks
[02:43] <bimberi> lightbright: np :)
[02:43] <TokenBad> azureus isn't supported by ubuntu anymore right?
[02:43] <TokenBad> or whatever cause of java?
[02:43] <navarone> lightbright> i installed it and my java based p2p client is flawless
[02:44] <devilz> ah ty
 devilz, you don't need root, <--- do what?    me thinks you mean you don't need to set a root password.
[02:44] <zblach> TokenBad, there was some package mismanagement
[02:44] <devilz> so i dont need su
[02:44] <N6REJ> <---- desperately needs help with his /etc/fstab configuration I think
[02:44] <_jason> intelikey, yeah that's what i meant
[02:44] <devilz> btw
[02:44] <devilz> do i have msn
[02:44] <devilz> on ubuntu
[02:44] <N6REJ> *EEEK*
[02:44] <bimberi> devilz: you can use "sudo -i" to get a root shell (without having to set a root password)
[02:44] <intelikey> !msn
[02:44] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know
[02:45] <TokenBad> zblach, so its back in..or still isn't?
[02:45] <zblach> TokenBad, don'tinstall azureus with synaptic
[02:45] <zblach> install it manually
[02:45] <zblach> i was having isuses with it and eclipse
[02:45] <nate1231> hello guys
[02:45] <N6REJ> intellikey: I've got a serious fstab problem... its not mounting one of the partitions for some reason.
[02:45] <lightbright> navarone: ok i selected java Web Start Blackdown Java :)  is that all I need?
[02:46] <TokenBad> zblach, ok just apt-get install azureus or download it from the site and install?
[02:46] <navarone> lightbright> I think so
[02:46] <Greves> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[02:46] <Greves> any idea?
[02:46] <lightbright> navarone: what p2p client did you install?
[02:46] <navarone> lightbright> phex2.8
[02:47] <intelikey> devilz if you are used to linux and using the root account for admin.  you can set the root password and even remove the sudo package it you want.  but the ub default way of doing admin actions is "sudo blah"
[02:47] <navarone> google it...i used it in windows as well...big improvement in the newer release
[02:47] <lightbright> navarone: is phex2.8 similar to Limwewire?
[02:47] <intelikey> N6REJ what error ?
[02:47] <navarone> lightbright> it only accesses gnutella
[02:47] <nate1231> is this the support channel?
[02:48] <nate1231> for noobs?
[02:48] <lightbright> navarone: is that good? :P
[02:48] <lightbright> nate1231: im a newbie :)
[02:48] <nate1231> yup
[02:48] <nate1231> i am
[02:48] <lightbright> navarone:  how do i install phex2.8?
[02:48] <intelikey> and N6REJ cat /etc/fstab and give us the line that has that mount point in it.
[02:48] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4890 this is my fstab.. the partition in question is /dev/hda6 it doesn't mount after reboot.  Originally i was labled /usr/local/mysql when I partitioned it but I didn't know that mysql datalibs live in /var/lib/mysql
[02:49] <intelikey> ok now what error N6REJ ?
[02:49] <N6REJ> myql doesn't start because /var/lib/mysql isn't right.
[02:49] <JRlinux> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my other computer.  During the installation, I did not see a question of the root password!  Now I cannot operate as SU because it asks for a password that I do not know.
[02:49] <N6REJ> there is a /var/lib/mysql w/o /dev/hda6 being mounted ( which I think is wrong ) but thats not where the proper data is.
[02:50] <navarone> lightbright> it's like gnutella-gtk...but is a bit simpler to understand and configure. After installing blackdown you dl they zip file and use ark to extract to folder of your choice...I used phex folder in home directory...you then open terminal , cd to phex folder and issue java -jar phex.jar
[02:50] <lightbright> how can I make sure ubuntu is using hda2 for swap?
[02:50] <bimberi> JRlinux: use "sudo -i" with your own password
[02:50] <nate1231> how do I upgrade to breezy?
[02:50] <bimberi> !root
[02:50] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:50] <bimberi> !breezy
[02:50] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:50] <nate1231> thanks
[02:51] <JRlinux> bimberi, thanks.  I will try that.  Is there any way to learn the mysterious root password?  or to change it?
[02:51] <bimberi> np :)
[02:51] <Greves> !sshd
[02:51] <ubotu> from memory, sshd is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[02:51] <lightbright> bimberi: how can I make sure ubuntu is using hda2 for swap now as i changed it as it was using hd5 before.
[02:51] <bimberi> JRlinux: sudo passwd (to set one)
[02:51] <N6REJ> intelikey: if I reboot and do not manually mount /dev/hda6, then mysql will not start, /var/lib/mysql exists with the wrong data.  If I then manually mount /dev/hda6 all is well but this seems wrong!
[02:51] <armor98926> bimberi: is their anyway to get an upgraded version of Gaim?
[02:51] <devilz> hey
[02:52] <bimberi> armor98926: possibly by compiling it yourself
[02:52] <devilz> can you tell me is it possible to talk with a microphone somehow
[02:52] <navarone> lightbright> when you extract to folder you can go and read the docs...tells you how to set it up
[02:52] <armor98926> bimberi: how do i do that
[02:52] <devilz> with other people
[02:52] <intelikey> N6REJ 'sudo mount  /var/lib/mysql '  does that mount with no error ?
[02:52] <JRlinux> bimberi, I tried that, but it would not accept the one I wanted.
[02:52] <devilz> for eg. my friend on a msn
[02:52] <bimberi> lightbright: cat /proc/swaps
[02:52] <N6REJ> intelikey: just umount /dev/hda6 first?
[02:53] <Weng> .... Okay, apparently support for this system is just plain poor
[02:53] <intelikey> yeah
[02:53] <Weng> Because it also detects and ignores the second CPU
[02:53] <N6REJ> ok, one moment
[02:53] <themachine> does anyone have an idea how to access the partition from ubuntu?
[02:53] <Weng> Fuckit, /win2k3
[02:53] <themachine> Im trying to get wine running on some apps
[02:53] <intelikey> may have to kill mysql for it to umount
[02:53] <lightbright> navarone:  ok :)
[02:54] <intelikey> may have to kill mysql for it to umount N6REJ
[02:54] <varsendagger> so aout of 547 people her there are no women
[02:54] <KenWeill> my satellite modem was detected on ubuntu 5.10 device manager.. but doesn't seem to work.. what should i do about this?
[02:54] <lightbright> bimberi: it said: /dev/hda2                               partition       747012  55832   -1
[02:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  looks good?
[02:54] <ravv> Im mounting a share over sshfs, is there any way to make it try ti establish the connection automaticakly periodically? (or as soon as internet connection is up)
[02:54] <bimberi> armor98926: download source from whereever, compile, install
[02:54] <bimberi> lightbright: yep :)
[02:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  excellent :)
[02:54] <JRlinux> bimberi, But I did not try it with the sudo -i  .... OK, that might do it.
[02:54] <intelikey> varsendagger this is irc where men are men, and women are men, and children are fbi agents.
[02:55] <armor98926> bimberi: do you know a site for that?
[02:55] <N6REJ> intelikey: yeah thats what I did and it worked fine... want me to try rebooting it first?
[02:55] <navarone> lightbright> when set up i would play witht eh bandwidth and number of connection to get a good mix of efficiency and search results
[02:55] <bimberi> JRlinux: yes, give that a try :)
[02:55] <lightbright> navarone:  ok
[02:55] <intelikey> no.
[02:55] <N6REJ> k
[02:55] <intelikey> N6REJ it mounts ok with that command ?
[02:55] <N6REJ> yes
[02:55] <intelikey> k
[02:55] <gimmulf> Is there any software for making Flash for linux?
[02:55] <nate1231> whats a good irc walkthrough? i need to learn this thing
[02:56] <bimberi> armor98926: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/   i don't have a howto for compiling on ubuntu at hand sorry, perhaps search the wiki
[02:56] <armor98926> k
[02:56] <N6REJ> 'sudo mount /var/lib/mysql' gets root prompt, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start' "checking for crashed tables"
[02:57] <themachine> how do you mount a windows partition?
[02:57] <themachine> ls /dev/hda1 is not showing me anything
[02:57] <intelikey> N6REJ i know it isn't supposed to need it but add auto after defualts in your fstab        defaults,auto   and then try it.
[02:57] <ravv> Any good site with tips and tricks for ubuntu, im looking for the neat stuff that really help but you, the kind of stuff that you can't live without once installed. (Not the guide or blog)
[02:57] <armor98926> bimberi: thanx
[02:57] <N6REJ> k
[02:57] <bimberi> armor98926: np :)
[02:57] <max> hey
[02:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell themachine about mountwindows
[02:58] <bimberi> chaff
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ravv, bash
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> i can't live without it ....
[02:59] <Greves> !sudo
[02:59] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:59] <bimberi> !cli
[02:59] <ubotu> I heard cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[03:00] <intelikey> and N6REJ you may need to make sure that mysql is not trying to start before the mount all command is issued to init.   just a thought.
[03:00] <N6REJ> intelikey: I've added that umounted /var/lib/mysql, should I delete the /var/lib/mysql folder that is there right now?
[03:00] <N6REJ> intelikey: how do I check that?
[03:00] <reiki> regarding Flash. I read the wiki. Hard to tell if it's updated for Breezy. currently have flashplayer-mozilla installed. A flash chat app crashes firefox AND epiphany. Do I need to do something different?
[03:00] <intelikey> N6REJ it will have to have an empty folder to mount on.    'well it doesn't have to be empty'
[03:01] <^cougar^> Hi all, Who may I talk to about a couple of questions that I got.
[03:01] <N6REJ> intelikey.. that MIGHT be teh problem!!!
[03:01] <N6REJ> its not empyt!
[03:01] <intelikey>  /var/lib/mysql must exist.       it doesn't have to be empty but can be.
[03:01] <N6REJ> oh ok!..
[03:01] <N6REJ> reboot?
[03:02] <bimberi> ^cougar^: just ask your questions, hopefully someone can help
[03:02] <nate1231> does anyone have any guides to irc chat
[03:02] <intelikey> yeah watch the startup dialog for anything that fails,  if you have boot splash use [esc]  so you can watch for errors N6REJ
[03:03] <Ophiocus> what s the command to stop start apache again?
[03:03] <Phuzion> apache2 -k start
[03:03] <robotgeek> Ophiocus: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:03] <^cougar^> Ok, I am running the live CD of Ubuntu, and it does not see any of my hard drives, is this normal on live CD?
[03:03] <nate1231> anyone know how to get my wireless card to work.. or should I just not even touch it?
[03:04] <Phuzion> nate1231:  Do you have wired ethernet as an alternative?
[03:04] <N6REJ> intelikey: its mounting "/usr/local/mysql" which is what I told it it would be named when I first installed the server :(
[03:04] <nate1231> yes I do
[03:04] <nate1231> im on it now
[03:04] <Phuzion> Are you looking to move the computer to a place that wired ethernet can't reach?
[03:04] <lightbright>  when a person first installs Ubuntu, do they have to pick "boot" from cfdisk for hda?
[03:04] <nate1231> lol I get where your going with this
[03:05] <dooglus> I'm new to 'grub'.  What do I need to do after editing grub's menu file?
[03:05] <intelikey> ah that is a mysql config error N6REJ,  and i'm no sql'r
[03:05] <nate1231> yes I am .. but I can stay where I am also
[03:05] <Phuzion> nate1231:  2 reasons to stick with wired:  1)  No chance of people intercepting your connection (unless you're ignorant) and 2) Faster (for the most part)
[03:05] <nuck> hi i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i find it there are some packages in the 5.04 install disk that aren't in the 5.10 i.e. emacs... why is that?
[03:05] <^cougar^> Ok, I am running the live CD of Ubuntu, and it does not see any of my hard drives, is this normal on live CD?
[03:06] <nate1231> I dont really care of my security... or the speed
[03:06] <dooglus> ^cougar^: run this in a terminal: "sudo mkdir /mnt/win; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win; cd /mnt/win"
[03:06] <Phuzion> nate1231:  Would you care if you got accused of hosting child porn?
[03:06] <N6REJ> intelikey: no, I think the kernel is confused... when I initially partitioned the disk during install, I told it it would be /usr/local/mysql  then I changed that ( or tried too ) when I discovered that mysql data lives at /var/lib/mysql
[03:06] <nate1231> well...
[03:07] <Phuzion> If that would bother you, then I'd suggest caring about security.
[03:07] <nate1231> I seriously doubt that would happen
[03:07] <Phuzion> Are you on broadband?
[03:07] <nate1231> yes
[03:07] <dooglus> nate1231: don't doubt it.  it's well possible.
[03:07] <Phuzion> It's possible.
[03:07] <nate1231> I didnt say it wasnt possible
[03:07] <nate1231> I have my router setup pretty tight
[03:07] <sethk> for all the people bitching about KDE, I just installed KDE from synaptic and it had not a single hitch
[03:07] <Phuzion> My friend found 25GB of porn on his hard drive once.  Someone put it on his Windows shared folder through his wireless.
[03:08] <LotsaCabo> Anyone got Skype running?
[03:08] <nate1231> I just wanted to use my wireless card
[03:08] <dooglus> !gru
[03:08] <ubotu> dooglus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:08] <dooglus> !grub
[03:08] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:08] <nuck> Phuzion really? is that possible without the guy knowing?
[03:08] <nate1231> not argue about hosing kiddie porn
[03:08] <sethk> of course, the fonts look awful, but that's true on the other distros too  :)
[03:08] <Ykstort> Where can I get ubuntu's human theme for gnome so I can have it on Gentoo?
[03:08] <bimberi> dooglus: nothing needed after editing menu.lst
[03:08] <nuck> hi i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i find it there are some packages in the 5.04 install disk that aren't in the 5.10 i.e. emacs... why is that?
[03:08] <primoturbo> Hey guys what's the command to remount my drives in fstab file?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> primoturbo: sudo mount -a
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> primoturbo, mount -a
[03:09] <primoturbo> thnx
[03:09] <Phuzion> nuck:  Of course, he could also have installed Apache as a background service, got the IP address, and given it out to people.
[03:09] <dooglus> bimberi: what if I've introduced a syntax error to the menu.lst?  will I still be able to boot?  is there a syntax checker?
[03:09] <lzybm> wow. im not the only person to use Ubuntu ;p
[03:09] <sethk> lzybm, sure you are.  these are all 'bots
[03:09] <lzybm> LMAO
[03:09] <nate1231> Phuzion: any help on how t setup my wireless card?\
[03:09] <dooglus> bimberi: I usually use lilo.  after editing lilo.conf I run the 'lilo' command and it tells me exactly how much of an idiot I am
 Where can I get ubuntu's human theme for gnome so I can have it on Gentoo?
[03:09] <Phuzion> nate1231:  Nope, sorry dude...
[03:10] <bimberi> dooglus: not that i know of,  you can (temporarily) edit commands while booting (hit e on a highlighted line)
[03:10] <sethk> nate1231, I forgot your original question.  what's going on with the wireless card?
[03:10] <^cougar^> The stupid root won't see my password
[03:10] <TokenBad> how handle bz2 files in ubuntu?
[03:10] <nate1231> lol well... that sux dude...
[03:10] <nuck> anyone else using ubuntu 5.10
[03:10] <dooglus> bimberi: OK, I'll just reboot and see what happens then.  thanks :)
[03:10] <bimberi> dooglus: ... which in no way means that there isn't a sanity checker of some sore :)
[03:10] <nate1231> sethk: I just wanted to get it to work is all
[03:10] <lzybm> so. all these guys are bots??
[03:10] <sethk> nate1231, which card?
[03:10] <nuck> i need some help, i want to use it instead of 5.04 but i find some stuff in 5.04 missing in the 5.10 install cd
[03:10] <sethk> lzybm, absolutely.
[03:10] <Elsan> How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...
[03:10] <JRlinux> Totem would not play my mp3 file.  What do I need to do?
[03:10] <lzybm> lol. dont wanna sound like a noob, but i am one ;P
[03:10] <nate1231> is there a select few that work?
[03:11] <intelikey> anyone know where the official #gentoo is ?   what server ?
[03:11] <dooglus> TokenBad: "bunzip2" or "tar xf" or "bzcat" or "bzdiff", "bzgrep", etc.  in a terminal, type bz and hit tab a few times.
[03:11] <LotsaCabo> I'm running into issues with libqt-mt versus libqt3c102-mt.  Skype requires libqt3c102-mt, but I have another version installed so that I can learn Qt 3.  Anyone know how to get Skye running without replacing the version that is installed already?
[03:11] <sethk> nate1231, there are quite a few that are known to work.  Your's may be one of them
[03:11] <nate1231> ok
[03:11] <Phuzion> intelikey:  It's here, just /j #gentoo
[03:11] <^cougar^> After I install Ubuntu 5.10, what can I use or get so I can run my previous windows products, like my games and photo editing software, as well as running my nvidia geforce 5500 vid card?
[03:11] <bimberi> LotsaCabo: yes, download Seveas' deb for skype via http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:11] <n0dl> how do i open rar files?
[03:12] <sethk> LotsaCabo, set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH in a terminal, and run Skype from that terminal
[03:12] <robotgeek> Ykstort: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/Human.tar.gz
[03:12] <nate1231> wel.. its a zyxel
[03:12] <n0dl> does anyone know how to open rar files?
[03:12] <nate1231> sethk: its an ZyXEL G-302
[03:13] <sethk> n0dl, rar is an archiving/compression tool.  you can install it from synaptic
[03:13] <sethk> nate1231, I haven't played with that one yet.  Does ubuntu see it?
[03:13] <nate1231> it sees a wireless connection" card" but thats as far as i know what it see
[03:14] <intelikey> yeah Phuzion i found it just befor you answered, tanks
[03:14] <primoturbo> hey dudes quick question, you know in natalius when you surf folders you get buttons for the list structre like usr - bin
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> n0dl, unrar -x file.rar i believe .. try it ... either that or just unrar file.rar ... i forgot which one
[03:14] <n0dl> sethk: whats the package called?
[03:14] <nuck> is there a command to print the partition and what's allocated in that partition? thanks
[03:14] <primoturbo> how do I make it text based
[03:14] <primoturbo> so I can write in the location
[03:14] <robotgeek> nuck: sudo fdisk -l
[03:14] <primoturbo> instead of pressing buttons
[03:14] <N6REJ> intelikey: what should the label type be?  right now its dos!
[03:14] <nuck> robotgeek thx
[03:14] <sethk> n0dl, I'm not sure, use the search function, it finds it
[03:14] <primoturbo> like in browsers the url area is not button based
[03:15] <primoturbo> but you can type stuff in
[03:15] <JRlinux> Apparently I need an mp3 decoder.  How do I get one?
[03:15] <intelikey> N6REJ im not a mysql user, you need to ask someone that is.  sorry.
[03:15] <bimberi> ^cougar^: you can try running them with wine, or better to look for linux equivalents (eg. gimp for photo editing)
[03:15] <joe_> hi, can ubuntu on master HD boot windows on slave HD?
[03:15] <sethk> nate1231, that's all you ever see until you do something with it
[03:15] <griffin_> is this a forum for ubuntu rookies to ask questions? Or is there a more specific room for that
[03:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell ^cougar^ about nvidia
[03:15] <N6REJ> intelikey: this is not about mysql at this point... this is about parted
[03:15] <_jason> primoturbo, ctrl+l (the letter L)
[03:15] <bimberi> griffin_: ask away :)
[03:15] <sethk> nate1231, click on it and configure it
[03:15] <nate1231> sethk: hmm.. whhats the next step then? I have already tried to configure it
[03:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell JRlinux about mp3
[03:16] <intelikey> label can be anything you like as far as i know. N6REJ
[03:16] <joe_> hi, can ubuntu on master HD boot windows on slave HD?
[03:16] <sethk> nate1231, why do you say "tried"?  didn't it configure?
[03:16] <N6REJ> intelikey: hmmmmm....
[03:16] <primoturbo> _jason: thanks but how do I make it permenant
[03:16] <N6REJ> intelikey: something stinks!
[03:16] <nate1231> sethk: tried "configured" no connection to the router.. im not connected to the internet
[03:16] <nate1231> sethk: router settings are correct.
[03:16] <_jason> primoturbo, that i don't know
[03:17] <sethk> nate1231, did you see your wireless network in the dropdown box?
[03:17] <ShadyRevolution> I need help, I finally got the Ubuntu 5.10 in the mail, and I put the live mac disk in my old G3 Imac, it was working fine but towards the end of the setup the screen went black and never came back on.  The cd drive is still moving and making noises, I have waited half and hour and it still isn't doing anything.
[03:17] <intelikey> if that partition is going to be used exclusively for sql call it mysql  or something.     a partition label, is just that a label.
[03:17] <LotsaCabo> No way.  There is absolutely no way that Skype installed that fast.
[03:17] <JRlinux> ubotu help mp3
[03:17] <armor98926> bimbie: how do i install gaim-w
[03:17] <primoturbo> Does anyone know how to get the browser in natilus instead of having to press ctrl + l ?
[03:17] <primoturbo> thanks
[03:17] <nate1231> sethk: Negative I had to create my network essid
[03:18] <sethk> nate1231, then it isn't really working
[03:18] <griffin_> I am trying to install my Lexmark z600 (connected by USB). Ubuntu finds the printer, but wants to install it as the Z11. I downloaded drivers from Lexmark, but they came in a shell file, not the ppd file that ubuntu wants to use. I am curious what a good solution would be?
[03:18] <nate1231> sethk: correct
[03:18] <nate1231> thats my problem
[03:18] <bimberi> armor98926: no idea sorry (bimbie, sheesh! :P)
[03:18] <armor98926> bimberi: sorry
[03:18] <JRlinux> bimberi,  ubotu is ignoring me, it seems
[03:18] <sethk> nate1231, that's not a good situation, where it is seen, but not working.
[03:18] <bimberi> !mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <mgcross> any else have Enemy Territory crash only when starting a server...driving me crazy looking for a fix...get signal 11
[03:18] <nate1231> sethk: lol
[03:18] <bimberi> JRlinux: there you go ^^^^
[03:18] <sethk> nate1231, I would google for driver updates
[03:18] <nate1231> hmm
[03:18] <JRlinux> ! mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <armor98926> bimberi: i found the site but i dont understand the directions can you help me?
[03:19] <nate1231> sethk: I dont think this cards supported
[03:19] <ShadyRevolution> can anyone helo me?
[03:19] <sethk> nate1231, it would certainly make your life easier to use a card that works out of the box
[03:19] <ShadyRevolution> help me?
[03:19] <nate1231> sethk: = no linux drivers... I think its installed itself on some other drivers
[03:19] <sethk> nate1231, I have gotten them to work, but it takes hours.  and hours.  and ...
[03:19] <sethk> nate1231, that's possible
[03:19] <armor98926> bimberi: if so here is the site http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html
[03:19] <nate1231> thats why i asked what cards are supported.,
[03:20] <joe_> i would like to see if there's a way to dual boot from ubuntu on master HD to windows on slave HD, anyone?
[03:20] <nate1231> I wasnt sure... what I could get
[03:20] <bimberi> armor98926: no sorry, i have to go and do some (paid) work :)
[03:21] <LootBeer> can someone help me install my macan someone help me install my master boot loader on my hda.. seems the hda now cannot boot at all.. i screwed up my lilo, contents of hdd is there thoughster boot loader on my hda.. seems the hda now cannot boot at all.. i screwed up my lilo, contents of hdd is there though
[03:21] <griffin_> joe_ install windows on the master, then swtich the jumper to slave and install the second HDD with jumpers to master and install ubuntu
[03:21] <ShadyRevolution> can anyone help me get ubuntu working on my old G3 imac?
[03:21] <armor98926> bimberi: alright thanx anyway
[03:21] <bimberi> armor98926: although, do a search on ubuntuforums.org for gaim-vv, you might get some guidance there
[03:21] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: you tried hitting a key?
[03:22] <armor98926> k
[03:22] <armor98926> thanx
[03:22] <griffin_> anybody good with lexmark printer installs?
[03:22] <ShadyRevolution> yeah, nothing happens
[03:22] <joe_> i see wat u mean griffin_
[03:22] <joe_> hehehe
[03:22] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: what if you do ctrl-alt-f2?
[03:22] <JRlinux> bimberi, thanks for your help.  You have been a busy guy.
[03:22] <thewayofzen> *PROBLEM* azureus has always shown in the system tray.  i did a fresh BREEZY install today.. and have it configured to minimize to tray as well as close to tray as always.. and NO icon in tray.. ANYONE able to help?
[03:22] <^cougar^> lmao, this is not going to be easy, is it
[03:22] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar as far as I can tell nothing changes
[03:22] <bimberi> JRlinux: yeah, lots of things i knew about during this "session" :)
[03:23] <nate1231> sethk ?
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, i thought by default azureus goes to tray on minimise ??
[03:23] <shmittubuntu> hullo
[03:23] <sethk> nate1231, sorry, I was doing something.  what did you ask?
[03:23] <nate1231> nothing
[03:23] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  me too thats the problem
[03:23] <noob_> anyone experienced with ubuntu lite?
[03:23] <nate1231> I just wanted to know if you knew a good irc guide
[03:23] <ravv> Any good site with tips and tricks for ubuntu, im looking for the neat stuff that really help but you, the kind of stuff that you can't live without once installed. (Not the guide or blog)
[03:23] <shmittubuntu> anyone know of a good dock app for breezy
[03:23] <nate1231> I want to goto a diffrent channel but dknow know how
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, i don't remember having to configure that part
[03:24] <sethk> nate1231, the freenode web page shows two good ones
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> nate1231, /join #channelname
[03:24] <noob_> ravv: check out the unofficial add-on CD
[03:24] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  thats why i dont understand whats up
[03:24] <intelikey> griffin_ joe_ it's easier than that on some boxes,  the bios setting let you select which drive to boot form,  boot from the second install win boot from the first install lin  tada
[03:24] <nate1231> ok
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, did it crashed or did it just not go to tray ...
[03:24] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  just not to tray
[03:24] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: I have tried rebooting the mac three times but it doesn't want to initialize the monitor after it makes the sounds like it is working.
[03:24] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  clean install of both
[03:24] <joe_> hey griffin_, i have an image of my c: drive where i use to have windows n now i have ubuntu, can i burn my c: drive image to my second HD d: and do u think it will work?
[03:24] <DjKritical> Anyone know of a ubuntu application good for personal financing?
[03:25] <TokenBad> on the wiki page...is there info on how to mount hard drives?
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, you also installed java too right ? obvious but gotta check
[03:25] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  correct
[03:25] <nate1231> wickedpuppy: but how do i get to this though? irc://irc.osx86project.org/
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, try dmesg ....
[03:25] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: so it shows nothing the whole boot process?
[03:25] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy, ok you lost me now
[03:25] <ShadyRevolution> No it show through most of it.
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> nate1231, try /server servername:port
[03:26] <nate1231> ok i will try...
[03:26] <nate1231> thanks
[03:26] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: it even gets to the part where it shows the Ubuntu logo, but after that it just goes black and spins the cd
[03:26] <griffin_> _joe, sorry thats way outta my leauge.  I am not sure wether your image would have the boot record and other such things needed to succesfully boot
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, oh just not to tray ... eh ah. .. hmms .. re download and try ?
[03:26] <intelikey> yep joe_  if the drives are the same size  just dd if=image of=/dev/hdb
[03:26] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  doing now
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, azureus has its own channel #azureus-users
[03:26] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  will go next :)
[03:26] <bimberi> armor98926: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html  (right - definitely back to work now)
[03:27] <intelikey> joe_ if they are different capicity that don't work near so well.
[03:27] <seth_slackware> hello again
[03:27] <shmittubuntu> good app dock for ubuntu?
[03:28] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: sounds like the refresh rate is off in the xorg config
[03:28] <seth_slackware> that show ubuntu has lame http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/lame
[03:28] <griffin_> is there a file where printer drivers are stored?
[03:28] <seth_slackware> apt-get install lame, shows none
[03:28] <^cougar^> I didn't know Linux was so complicated, none fo my HD's are seen, gotta find the right Linux based driver for my vid card, and all the programs I like to use like Adobe Photoshop
[03:28] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: dunno how you could fix that with the livecd
[03:28] <intelikey> joe_ what you can do with an image of a drive of another size is mount it and cp all its content to the new partition.
[03:28] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: me neither
[03:28] <sethk> seth_slackware, it's pissed because you called it lame
[03:28] <nuck> hey can i anyone help me out? why are there some packages missing in ubuntu 5.10 install disk?
[03:29] <seth_slackware> sethk: lol
[03:29] <brdweb> hi all, i'm having an issue with my wireless. My hardware driver is installed, wlan0 interface comes up, I get DHCP settings from the router just fine, but then I can't actually get anywhere, to include pinging the router
[03:29] <joe_> intelikey, ok, lets say i got the c: image to d: now so wat do i do next, sorry im new to linux
[03:29] <nuck> i got the official install disk distributed by ubuntu not an image i downloaded off the web
[03:29] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: i usually have to change the config after the auto configuration, but i guess you're kind of screwed with the livecd
[03:29] <robotgeek> brdweb: can u check you 'dmesg' output and see if your packets are being blocked?
[03:29] <sethk> nuck, no wonder it didn't work
[03:30] <intelikey> joe_ can you clearify ' lets say i got the c: image to d: ' for me ?
[03:30] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: oh well I'll try a live cd on my pc instead,  Thanks for your help.
[03:30] <joe_> i wanna get this working cuz abuntu looks nice n i like the idea that it updates like windows hehehe
[03:30] <nuck> sethk what do you mean? thanks
[03:30] <shmittubuntu> wut display managers will work on ubuntu, sorry n00b question
[03:30] <sethk> nuck, just teasing, nothing really  :)
[03:30] <daddius> hey what kernel does 5.10 use?
[03:30] <sethk> shmittubuntu, gdm, xdm, kdm
[03:31] <dsl_> is there anyone who could tell me how to reinstall grub when i have /boot/grub intact? :P
[03:31] <shmittubuntu> ugg i hate xdm
[03:31] <intelikey> joe_ can you clearify ' lets say i got the c: image to d: ' for me ????
[03:31] <shmittubuntu> everythings wierd and i didnt even take any time to get use to it
[03:31] <sethk> shmittubuntu, I didn't say you have to use it, I said it is supported  :)
[03:31] <shmittubuntu> yea i kno
[03:31] <nuck> sethk you bastard :-)
[03:32] <brdweb> robotgeek: it looks like it's sending packets to the DNS servers when i look at dmesg
[03:32] <buddy> --How do i turn the telnet server on on my ubuntu box?
[03:32] <joe_> intelikey, i would like to boot from ubuntu on c: drive to windows on d: drive, griffin told me to install windows on c: drive change jumpers to from master to slave then install ubuntu on master drive.......
[03:32] <brdweb> robotgeek: how do I check to see what gateway DHCP gave me?
[03:32] <^cougar^> If I was to fully install this linux operating system, will the installer see all of my drives and media?
[03:32] <nuck> elp!h
[03:32] <intelikey> yes joe_ that will work.
[03:33] <shmittubuntu> ^cougar^ yes while its installing it says detecting drives
[03:33] <nuck> intelikey do you use the 5.10 ubuntu version?
[03:33] <intelikey> joe_ no i don't use ubuntu
[03:34] <joe_> intelikey, ok, after i boot it there anything else i need to configure
[03:34] <dsl_> is there anyone who could tell me how to reinstall grub when i have /boot/grub intact? :P
[03:34] <^cougar^> ok, I hope I can save the files and folders that I want to keep as well as my previous windows applications
[03:34] <joe_> ohh ok,  wat do u use?
[03:34] <intelikey> sorry s/joe/nuck/  ^
[03:34] <LotsaCabo> My buffer already flushed my history, but thanks to whomever it was that gave me the link to grab Skype.  I'm up and running.
[03:34] <intelikey> mdk
[03:35] <blanky> hello
[03:35] <SimpleIRC> bye!
[03:35] <blanky> scare him, haha
[03:35] <intelikey> joe_ no it should all be automatic after the changing of the jumpers.
[03:35] <JRlinux> Computer has hda and hdb.  hda has WinME and Debian; I installed Ubuntu on hdb,  thinking that grub would still give me choice of the other two OS-- Nope, Debian has disappeared from the boot menu.
[03:35] <joe_> really, thats nice hehehe
[03:36] <joshuaxls> I am having a big problem trying to compile ndiswrapper 1.5 on a new Ubuntu install
[03:36] <JRlinux> Not funny, joe_
[03:36] <brdweb> robotgeek: any ideas?
[03:36] <blanky> guys k3b wont close, I've clicked close countless times
[03:36] <blanky> is there a way to force kill it
[03:36] <joe_> i rembered something that made me laugh :)
[03:37] <NoUse> blanky, open a terminal and run xkill, then click on the k3b window
[03:37] <MarcN> NoUse: or open a terminal and      killall -9 k3b
[03:37] <kbrooks> bed
[03:37] <joe_> intelikey, thaks for the help
[03:37] <blanky> thanks!
[03:38] <shmittubuntu> sethk whatabout aurora dm?
[03:38] <JRlinux> I guess it is time to re-install Debian-- and hope that Ubuntu stays.  Sheesh.
[03:38] <joshuaxls> Has anyone compiled ndiswrapper before on an Ubuntu machine?
[03:38] <Creamier_Oak> JRlinux: or just add to your /boot/grub/menu.lst the other entries...
[03:39] <intelikey> JRlinux so boot ub mount the partition that has deb on it and get the line from the debian's /boot/grub/menu.lst that contains the debian listing and add it to the ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst    viola you boot all three.
[03:39] <nuck> no one here using 5.10? unbelievable :-(
[03:39] <intelikey> joe_ np :)
[03:39] <NoUse> nuck, do you have a question?
[03:39] <robotgeek> brdweb: sorry was away, gimme a moment
[03:39] <JRlinux> Creamier_Oak,  intelikey , copying down those instructions...
[03:39] <nuck> yes ive just installed 5.10 over the 5.04 but some of the [ackaages like emacs are missing from the 5.10 install disk
[03:40] <joe_> take care im out to do some twicking :), c-ya
[03:40] <Creamier_Oak> nuck: sudo apt-get install emacs?
[03:40] <NoUse> nuck, just apt-get get them or use synaptic
[03:40] <nuck> yes i use synaptic i search it from synaptic under "All" but it doesnt show up
[03:41] <NoUse> nuck, emacs21 is the package name
[03:41] <nuck> Creamier_Oak NoUse then i browsed the 5.10 install cd and theres no emacs under "/pool/.../e"
[03:41] <JRlinux> menu.lst, eh?  I did make a copy of it on my flash disk before installation.  And now I just add one line to the ubuntu menu.lst?  I will surely try it, thanks!
[03:42] <robotgeek> brdweb: does it say stuff like blocked?
[03:42] <NoUse> nuck, they probably don't put emacs on the CD, use synaptic
[03:42] <n0dl> does anyone here know a good MTA?
[03:42] <dooglus> grub fans:  how can I remove the "memtest" and the "safe mode" ubuntu entries from the boot menu?
[03:42] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:42] <unixx> does anybody know how i can install mepis that was burnt as unbootable???
[03:43] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:43] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: with '
[03:43] <JRlinux> dooglus, I am guessing from what the experts are telling me... by commening out... yeah
[03:43] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: with hash/pound signs?  I did that.  They came back.
[03:43] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: your text editor of choice, you'll need to use sudo
[03:43] <NoUse> unixx, you may want to ask in #mepis
[03:43] <nuck> NoUse yes i use synaptic add the web repository in synaptic right?
[03:43] <nuck> NoUse yes i use synaptic you mean add the web repository in synaptic right?
[03:43] <unixx> NoUse ok
[03:43] <geno_> How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...
[03:44] <JRlinux> unixx, I had to copy over TWICE the install disk that Ubuntu sent to me.  the second copy worked, but not the original nor the first try.
[03:44] <brdweb> robotgeek: nope, nothing blocked
[03:44] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: I put # in front of the lines.  but the #'s have gone now that I've rebooted...  and the entries appeared in the menu
[03:44] <n0dl> Does anyone know of a good MTA that is not Sndmail>
[03:44] <n0dl> ?
[03:44] <Knowerrors> !metabar
[03:44] <JRlinux> try=copy
[03:44] <ubotu> Knowerrors: Wish i knew
[03:44] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: stupid question, but did you save it first?
[03:44] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: twice.
[03:44] <robotgeek> brdweb: hmm, no clue then
[03:44] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: and rebooted twice.
[03:44] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: post your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin?
[03:44] <brdweb> robotgeek: thanks anyway, i'm going to try and see if disabling ipv6 does the trick
[03:45] <NoUse> nuck, emacs is in the default repos, you don't need to add any
[03:45] <NoUse> nuck, sudo apt-get install emacs21
[03:45] <jared> hi
[03:45] <dooglus> Hobbsee: after I edit it, or after I reboot?
[03:45] <dooglus> Hobbsee: 'cos it changes when I reboot
[03:46] <Hobbsee> dooglus: hmmm...it shouldnt change after you reboot, i didnt think
[03:46] <JRlinux> The first line in /boot/grub/menu.lst is the first to be listed on the boot menu?  So put my favorite OS at the top?
[03:47] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I'll reboot again and see...
[03:47] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:47] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I've made a copy of the file, so I can be sure if it changes.
[03:47] <sethk> JRlinux, yes, but you can make any one of them the default
[03:47] <Hobbsee> dooglus: good idea
[03:47] <boodle> anyone get firefox 1.5rc2 working that just went into dapper
[03:48] <sethk> JRlinux, but yes, that's how you make it appear first in the list
[03:48] <Hobbsee> boodle: yeah, was working here - sudo apt-get install firefox mozilla-firefox
[03:48] <JRlinux> sethk  ... the default?  How do you do that?
[03:48] <intelikey> JRlinux 'man grub'
[03:48] <boodle> Hobbsee, heh dindna see the moz-firefox pkg still. tyvm!
[03:49] <sethk> JRlinux, there is usually a line in the file,     default 0           or   default 1        or whatever
[03:49] <Hobbsee> boodle: tyvm?
[03:49] <sethk> JRlinux, default 0 means the first choice is the default, default 1 means the second is the default, etc.
[03:49] <boodle> thankyouverymuch
[03:49] <neoplasticity> hello
[03:49] <neoplasticity> anyone here using ubuntu ppc?
[03:49] <JRlinux> sethk, ok, and thanks!
[03:50] <JRlinux> intelikey, someday I will learn the man language.  I keep working at it, but still lousy at it.  Thanks, anyway!
[03:50] <blanky> hey guys, do I need a setting in my xorg.conf so windows dont lag, someone in #kde told me about renderaccel = true, should I set that?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> JRlinux, its in menu.lst ... no need man
[03:50] <intelikey> JRlinux man man   ?
[03:51] <JRlinux> lol, OK.  Thanks, guys
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> the explaination for using default boot option is explained in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...
[03:51] <JRlinux> Thanks wickedpuppy
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> blah ... you should have found it out yourself ... :P
[03:52] <JRlinux> lol
[03:53] <blanky> hey guys do I need a setting in xorg.conf enabled to make my windows not lag when I drag them on top of other windows (especially things like openoffice or firefox), I have my drivers installed and they're working
[03:53] <intelikey> wickedpuppy there are no comments in my menu.lst   :)
[03:53] <Villa> nick PorcupineTree
[03:53] <PorcupineTree> hi
[03:53] <dooglus> Hobbsee: aah - I see what's happening...  it's when I run "sudo update-grub" that it undoes my changes.  I'll stop running that!  :)
[03:53] <johnp> Hello
[03:53] <PorcupineTree> does anyon here use dosbox
[03:53] <Hobbsee> dooglus: hehe....that might help, yes
[03:54] <dooglus> what do I need to do to a new install to get the security updates?
[03:54] <blanky> guys should I set '	Option	"RenderAccel"		"yes"	# hardware Render acceleration' in my xorg.conf
[03:54] <eternalist> wheres the startup script for ubuntu?
[03:54] <eternalist> i need to have a certain thing happen everytime i boot up
[03:54] <gimmulf> 2How do i make flash from linux?
[03:54] <durt> blanky find an option and choose not to display the window contents when moving (im in xfce, so i dont know about gnome)
[03:54] <eternalist> while true; do ./dont.sh | sudo nc -v -l -p 23; done   <-  i want that line to start everytime i boot up
[03:54] <dooglus> eternalist: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> does anyone one know why my audio files say You have the correct output plugin selected. when i try to open them
[03:55] <intelikey> eternalist /etc/inittab tells init what script to run first.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> dooglus: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade?
[03:55] <blanky> durt: but it's not that my pc is slow, it's frickin fast (vid card, proc, mem, etc.), it's something else I bet
[03:55] <dooglus> eternalist: save some bytes: "while :" instead of "while true"
[03:55] <eternalist> while alone works?
[03:55] <ljl> argh
[03:55] <dooglus> Hobbsee: it came with no network sources enabled
[03:56] <ljl> for(;;);
[03:56] <Hobbsee> !tell dooglus about repos
[03:56] <intelikey> eternalist the scripts in /etc/rcS.d/ run each boot up
[03:56] <dooglus> !sources.list
[03:56] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:56] <durt> eternalist: you can make your own script (/etc/init.d/script.sh), then run update-rc.d script.sh defaults
[03:57] <odyssey> !tell odyssey about ubuntu
[03:57] <durt> blanky, no ubuntu is just slow - i have half a gig of ram and its still pretty unresponsive
[03:58] <eternalist> durt, the problem is it requires me to be root
[03:58] <MAX> need help
[03:58] <MAX> please
[03:58] <durt> eternalist, what does?
[03:58] <eternalist> durt, so if i put sudo, itll prompt me for a password during boot up or what?
[03:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> but they dont platy
[03:58] <eternalist> durt, to run nc on port 23
[03:58] <blanky> that sucks that ubuntu is slow, and I thought it was fast
[03:58] <Agrajag> eternalist: init scripts run as root
[03:58] <eternalist> Agrajag, oh thanks
[03:58] <MAX> like... my processor is socket 775 that means he is a 64bits processor
[03:58] <durt> eternalist, it will be run as root, you dont need any sudos in the script
[03:58] <intelikey> eternalist the startup scripts run as root.
[03:59] <MAX> but to ubuntu only have intel x86
[03:59] <durt> oops too late
[03:59] <varsendagger> hey i changed my modprobe and now my sound won't work for something else
[03:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> actually it sayst:1. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.
[03:59] <Madpilot> MAX: there's an AMD64 version of Ubuntu - the 32bit version will run too
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> MAX, you downloaded the 64 bit ubuntu install cd right ?
[03:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> please check that...
[04:00] <Madpilot> blanky: Ubuntu is faster on this machine than XP ever was (AMD 2500+ CPU, 1Gb RAM...)
[04:00] <cin_> I downloaded Icon themes from Gnomelook.com how do I use them? I just downloaded them and a window opened displaying the file.
[04:00] <MAX> no i have an INTEL processor
[04:00] <eternalist> How would i go about removing it, is there a method just like the update-rc.d command?
[04:00] <eternalist> just delete it and do update-rc.d?
[04:00] <Madpilot> MAX: intel 64? Itanitum?
[04:00] <MAX> socket 775. but to intel ubuntu only gots intelx86
[04:00] <Agrajag> MAX: it's the same thing
[04:00] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I think I see what happened...  I use an encrypted WPA wireless access point.  The installer didn't know the WPA key, so it thought I had no network access.  As a result it probably decided not to set me up to receive security updates!  Seems dangerous to me!  :)
[04:01] <Agrajag> the x86-64 CD is for AMD Athlon 64 or Intel Pentoium 4 with EMT64
[04:01] <Agrajag> er, Pentium
[04:01] <MAX> hmm
[04:01] <Agrajag> but the 32-bit x86 CD will also work
[04:01] <Madpilot> MAX: if it's a 32bit system, the x86 Ubuntu should run on it
[04:01] <Comrade_Vladimir> i figure its just not having the win32 codecs in right... but thats just me
[04:01] <Agrajag> and will be less of a pain to set up for some things
[04:01] <intelikey> eternalist you can edit the script as needed without any other command but yes delete the script and update
[04:01] <MAX> hmm
[04:01] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[04:01] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:01] <MAX> i can't install linux
[04:02] <MAX> and a frind of mine told me that's the reason
[04:02] <cin_> Does anyone know how I can make my own GNOME themes? Or download premade themes, with a tutorial on how to use them.
[04:02] <durt> eternalist: update-rc.d script.sh remove
[04:02] <dooglus> !libcss2
[04:02] <ubotu> No idea, dooglus
[04:02] <dooglus> !dvd
[04:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:02] <MAX> because i had install it but i can't get linux in graphic way
[04:03] <eternalist> Thank you everyone, i appreciate it
[04:03] <eternalist> :)
[04:03] <dooglus> doh.  what's the name of the package which installs the DVD decrpyer hingy?
[04:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> dooglus u know of win32
[04:03] <eternalist> definitly friendlier than the debian group
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> MAX, there is live cd ...
[04:03] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir: I am aware of it.
[04:03] <Hobbsee> dooglus: yeah, just a bit!
[04:03] <atrophic> yay, my ubuntu cds came in the mail today and I've already given away 5/15
[04:03] <sethk> eternalist, a cemetary is friendlier than the debian group
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> MAX, i got a friend who says i can't use windows cause it will make you stupid
[04:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> dooglus so do u know what my problem is
[04:04] <dooglus> there's a kernel update for breezy already?  what was that for?
[04:04] <MAX> wickedpuppy lol it's true
[04:04] <MAX> lol
[04:04] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir: I didn't see yourproblem, no.
[04:04] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir: my problem is that my spacebar sucks
[04:04] <Hobbsee_away> dooglus: ubuntuforums.org - it has an annoucement under "announcements"
[04:05] <intelikey> !codecs
[04:05] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[04:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> dooglus it says  lease check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.
[04:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> when i get on
[04:05] <sig> anyone know of a program that I can make a slide show on cd/dvd and add music with in linux?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> MAX, try the live cd and come back if it screws up .. btw you aren't the first one to run linux on 64 bit intel ... intel probably did it first
[04:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> to a mp3 file
[04:08] <dooglus> Hobbsee_away: did you read that list of kernel holes?  puts Windows to shame! ;)
[04:08] <odyssey> hi, how can i hide desktop icons such as the trash can etc
[04:08] <ubuntu_newbie> i am trying to instal ubuntu, but my cd is corrupted :-( the live cd works fine. Is there anyway i can instal ubuntu from live cd?
[04:08] <dooglus> odyssey: I stopped nautilus running altogether.  that got rid of the desktop icons and freed up a bunch of memory.  It's in the session editor.
[04:08] <TokenBad> how uncompress b25 files?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, what prevents you from redownloading or reburning it again ?
[04:09] <dooglus> ubuntu_newbie: I don't think so.
[04:09] <TokenBad> bz5
[04:09] <TokenBad> even
[04:09] <dooglus> TokenBad: bunzip2
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> TokenBad, bz2 ...
[04:09] <ubuntu_newbie> i dont have a cd burner here... and the internet connection is slow
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, then how you got it ?
[04:09] <odyssey> dooglus, thanks
[04:09] <ubuntu_newbie> i am on a holiday now and brought these cd's with me
[04:09] <TokenBad> get that with apt or download it?
[04:10] <dooglus> why is this happened when I go to upgrade?  The following packages have been kept back:
[04:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> aomeone run me through win32 codecs
[04:10] <dooglus>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, then have a nice holiday!!! forget about linux or windows ...
[04:10] <ubuntu_newbie> :(
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> TokenBad, its in apt-get .. of course
[04:10] <TokenBad> hmm
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> no need to ask just do it
[04:10] <TokenBad> just tried apt-get install bunzip2
[04:10] <ubuntu_newbie> i use windows at work... wanted to try linux ...
[04:10] <Agrajag> bzip2
[04:11] <intelikey> i wish some would tell me how to make this thing stop resetting the kbdrate  every two minutes........
[04:11] <TokenBad> ok says already have it installed
[04:11] <ubuntu_newbie> i installed debian... but dont know how to work with it.... i go until the command prompt :(
[04:11] <Agrajag> then you should already have bunzip2
[04:11] <fredforfaen> is there a way to get the install cd to install the i686 kernel ?
[04:11] <che_wicked> elo
[04:11] <che_wicked> guys need help
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, really ... you expect to be running linux full speed just as much as windows after a few days of usage ?
[04:12] <dooglus> to answer my own question:  I needed to "apt-get dist-upgrade" not just "apt-get upgrade"
[04:12] <ubuntu_newbie> wickedpuppy, i just want linux running.... no question of speed.
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> fredforfaen, i don't think it comes with multiple kernels
[04:12] <dooglus> TokenBad: bunzip2 doesn't start with bz, unlike the other bz2 programs
[04:12] <Comrade_Vladimir> its a pain in the ass
[04:12] <ubuntu_newbie> in fact i am running ubuntu on live cd...
[04:12] <fredforfaen> wickedpuppy hmm
[04:12] <ubuntu_newbie> but want to instal it
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, speed as in your speed ... not the speed of the com ...
[04:13] <dooglus> fredforfaen: I don't think so.  you can insall it after.
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, if you just want it running ... live cd
[04:13] <intelikey> ubuntu_newbie being brand new to the linux world, no you probably can not install from the live cd without lots of help.    but if you were an old had at linux i'd say just make a ext3 partition and cp all the files over then reboot and dpkg-setup  or something like would work......
[04:13] <Cartesian1984> i would like to get a bigger usb drive and install ubuntu on it, think thats possible?
[04:13] <intelikey> had/hand
[04:13] <dooglus> intelikey: I don't think the live cd has enough packages on it, does it?
[04:13] <durt> how would i go about turning the free space on my root partition (/dev/hda1) into another partion on which i can install another os?
[04:13] <ubuntu_newbie> oh ok...
[04:14] <Comrade_Vladimir> so whats holdin this back    when i try to load an mp3 file it opens bmp and says Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. in a error message
[04:14] <intelikey> dooglus all you need is a linux console and the dpkg package manager isn't it.....
[04:14] <Scythe> what is the current version of the latest mozilla release?
[04:15] <dooglus> durt: 1) boot from cd, so root partition isn't mounted; 2) resize root filesystem 3) use dpkg to resize root filesystem's partition 4) make new partition with fdisk
[04:15] <intelikey> from there you can wget anything else you need even on a slowdem
[04:15] <dooglus> 5) makenew filesystem in new partition with mkfs or some such
[04:15] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:15] <dooglus> intelikey: I guess so.
[04:15] <dooglus> intelikey: debbootstrap would be handy though.
[04:16] <intelikey> yeah well it is probably on the live
[04:16] <intelikey> i havent checked
[04:16] <durt> thanks dooglus
[04:16] <intelikey> i've only booted the live like 2/3 times
[04:16] <PorcupineTree> dosbox is neat
[04:16] <PorcupineTree> I am installing simcity 2000 as a test
[04:17] <Comrade_Vladimir> so whats holdin this back    when i try to load an mp3 file it opens bmp and says Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. in a error message
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Comrade_Vladimir, you installed the codecs .. of course ?
[04:18] <intelikey> if i could get this box to stop reseting the kbdrate every two minutes i would probably install ub again,  that is the reason i ditched it last time.     mmmmm and the time before i think.....
[04:18] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir:
[04:18] <Comrade_Vladimir> wickedpuppy yea i dont think theyre workin
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> Comrade_Vladimir, if you installed the right ones they are ... i am listening to westlife atm
[04:18] <nuck> anyone using ubuntu 5.10?
[04:18] <che_wicked> guys why i cant log in to my desktop
[04:18] <Comrade_Vladimir> i tried to reilstallthem in synaptic and it dissapeered
[04:18] <nuck> i need to ask some question re: 5.10
[04:19] <PorcupineTree> anyone here use GMX?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> nuck, pls stop asking if people using 5.10 ... assumed we are
[04:19] <Comrade_Vladimir> they told me id have better luck here
[04:19] <nuck> i find some of the packages are missing in the install disk as compared to the install disk of 5.04
[04:19] <nuck> like emacs
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> nuck, then use apt-get to get them .. i am sure people told ya already ... sudo apt-get install emacs21
[04:20] <_jason> nuck, emacs21 is the name of the package for emacs, enable universe/multiverse repos
[04:20] <dooglus> or xemacs
[04:20] <Comrade_Vladimir> i did it through the inter net according to _jason
[04:20] <nuck> wickedpuppy is there a way to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without wiping all that have been installed previously including thrid-party apps?
[04:20] <che_wicked> anyone knows these errors
[04:20] <che_wicked> ~/.xsession-errors file
[04:20] <Comrade_Vladimir> who is currently offline
[04:20] <NoUse> !tell nuck about breezy
[04:20] <nuck> _jason yes its not there at all
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> nuck, dist-upgrade will upgrade the apps
[04:21] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, has a problem with esd, even though he has it set to start up a ps aux | grep esd returns nothing.  Maybe someone can help him.
[04:21] <NoUse> nuck, emacs is in the repos use apt-get or synaptic
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> nuck,
[04:21] <_jason> !info emacs21
[04:21] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB
[04:21] <Comrade_Vladimir> hey u are on
[04:21] <nuck> wickedpuppy why?
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> billy@wicked1:~$ apt-cache search emacs21
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> emacs21-bin-common - The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent files
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> here .. there you go
[04:21] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason why does nt it show u
[04:21] <ficusplanet> Hey.  Does anyone know how to change the font of a "FontWork" graphic in OpenOffice?
[04:22] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, what do you mean?
[04:22] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:22] <nuck> will the dist-upgrade command not muck up all non-standard apps i have installed? thanks
[04:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh nevermind
[04:22] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, oh i was away and didn't notice :D
[04:22] <NoUse> nuck, did you read the link ubotu sent you? it shows how to upgrade to breezy
[04:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok so refer me away!
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> nuck, if non-standard apps depends on particular lib .. then they might ...
[04:23] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:23] <intelikey> NoUse are you reading nuck's question ?
[04:23] <NoUse> intelikey, yeah I helped him earlier
[04:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> so who knows about esd
[04:23] <nuck> no worries i'll try out the things you've suggested thanks
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> yah i thought the case was closed ...
[04:24] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:24] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, try: dpkg-reconfigure esound
[04:25] <ficusplanet> Hey.  Does anyone know how to change the font of a "FontWork" graphic in OpenOffice?
[04:25] <unixx> does anybody know how i can dual boot xp and ubuntu?
[04:25] <God> yeah
[04:25] <God> When you install them it gives you the option
[04:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> root@ubuntu:/home/andrew # dpkg-reconfigure esound
[04:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> root@ubuntu:/home/andrew #
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell unixx about dualboot
[04:25] <God> Like I had XP before and when I installed Ubuntu it asked if I wanted to dual boot
[04:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> nothin
[04:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> had to be in root too
[04:26] <unixx> ok so i have xp installed first, then do i click on manually edit the partition table?
[04:26] <chasmarang> God: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:26] <TokenBad> hmm
[04:26] <jayson_I> what's up dude!
[04:26] <TokenBad> I installed java on my system..but when go to site that uses java..it not load
[04:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> hey now i cant say oh my god anymore
[04:26] <God> chasmarang, Mine was mounted when I booted Ubuntu for the first time.
[04:26] <unixx> lol
[04:27] <jayson_I> i've receive already the ubuntu CD i ordered. :)
[04:27] <bimberi> chasmarang: is it a windows drive?
[04:27] <TokenBad> any idea why?
[04:27] <dooglus> when I play movies, they are incredibly jumpy.  if I switch to OSS instead of ALSA, they're OK.  is it possible to get ALSA to work?
[04:27] <God> chasmarang, You could try mounting hda or hda1, hda2, etc.
[04:27] <dooglus> mplayer says stuff like "alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.105 msecs. resetting stream3.1% 7 0 7%" over and over
[04:27] <jayson_I> i already distribute it to my friends they luv to use ubuntu.
[04:27] <TokenBad> I got my cd's yesterday
[04:27] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:27] <Phoul> Is there anyway to get E17 for ubuntu?
[04:28] <TokenBad> going to put them in my docs office and a couple other offices next week
[04:28] <unixx> i got my cd's yesterday too, i installed breezy over hoary, and i gave my friends sum cd's too, get rid of windows
[04:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason was that supposed to work
[04:28] <NoUse> !tell Phoul about e17
[04:28] <TokenBad> unixx, how many did you order?
[04:28] <Phoul> Uhh?
[04:28] <bimberi> chasmarang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> cause it didnt
[04:28] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, did you run it with sudo? try restarting X
[04:28] <Phoul> Nouse
[04:28] <unixx> 50, 25 x86 cd;s and 25ppc cd;s
[04:28] <Phoul> Huh?
[04:28] <NoUse> Phoul, you have a message from ubotu with links to Howtos
[04:29] <TokenBad> cool
[04:29] <Phoul> yeah i know
[04:29] <Phoul> I just want to have the system
[04:29] <TokenBad> I did their default one for 55 cds
[04:29] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:29] <unixx> nice
[04:29] <TokenBad> 40 x86, 10 64 bit and 5 macs
[04:29] <unixx> ive been with ubuntu for along time now
[04:29] <unixx> i started with warty
[04:29] <unixx> kewlkewl
[04:29] <thompa-A> hi, how do i moun the windows partition?
[04:29] <thompa-A> mount
[04:29] <NoUse> Phoul, you said you wanted e17, those are links on how to get e17,
[04:29] <bimberi> thompa-A:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:30] <Phoul> Umm
[04:30] <Phoul> Okay
[04:30] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[04:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:30] <thompa-A> thanks bimberi, i should go through the wiki some
[04:30] <TokenBad> I been with ubuntu for 6 months I think
[04:30] <TokenBad> thats about all
[04:30] <Cartesian1984> ok, i have this problem with grub. when trying to boot feather linux from a usb key, i get an error message "GRUB error 17"
[04:30] <bimberi> thompa-A: np :)
[04:30] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason still the same
[04:30] <TokenBad> anyone tell me why after I installed java it not work..and this is after restarted mozzilla
[04:31] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:31] <unixx> i also use gentoo, alinux, mepis, slackeware, suse and mandriva
[04:31] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, how did you restart X without leaving xchat!
[04:31] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, or are you on a diff computer?
[04:31] <TokenBad> cool...i tried fedora, gentoo and a couple others
[04:31] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh no
[04:31] <ubuntu> How do I go about mounting  drive?
[04:31] <TokenBad> but like ubuntu best so far
[04:31] <dooglus> !flash
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:31] <TokenBad> and their tech support is by far the best
[04:31] <unixx> ubuntu has way more junk in its reps
[04:32] <_jason> comrade, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X for you (save anything you are working on)
[04:32] <chasmarang> TokenBad: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:32] <unixx> and free pressed cd's, thats the best part
[04:32] <dooglus> is there a page that talks me through all the stuff you usually set up after installing breezy?  flash, java vm, mp3, dvd, etc?
[04:32] <dooglus> w32codecs, etc.
[04:32] <TokenBad> the wiki page does
[04:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell dooglus about faq
[04:33] <TokenBad> at least that is what I used
[04:33] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:33] <TokenBad> but I still don't know why java isn't working
[04:33] <Hobbsee_away> dooglus: i did indeed see the kernal holes - didnt make that much sense to me though
[04:33] <eternalist> how do i stop this one process from going, i keep killingit but it keeps coming back.
[04:34] <sethk> eternalist, usually that's because there is an auto-restart in one of the init files
[04:34] <eternalist> yes buti removed it.
[04:34] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I didn't have a good look, but that's a lot of holes!
[04:34] <sethk> eternalist, must appear in more than one level
[04:34] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:34] <eternalist> i used rc-update remove..
[04:34] <Madpilot> I've got an old harddrive that I want to eventually reformat w/ ext3, but first I want to mount it and check what's left in it - I can't remember if it's NTFS or FAT32, though. How can I get that information?
[04:34] <NoUse> Madpilot, is it in the computer?
[04:34] <unixx> right click properties?
[04:34] <sethk> Madpilot, try to mount it.  if it is ntfs, you'll mount it as ntfs, and the same for fat32
[04:34] <eternalist> sethk, how do i stop it.
[04:35] <sethk> eternalist, if it really is in an init file, you have to find that file and remove it (or move to another init level)
[04:35] <chasmarang> Hobbsee: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:35] <sethk> eternalist, you can do init 1 to stop it for the moment
[04:35] <sethk> Madpilot, or what unixx said if it is physically in the box
[04:35] <Madpilot> NoUse: yeah, it's seen as hdd. sethk, I thought mount needed to know which format it was dealing with before it would mount the thing?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: edit your /etc/fstab?
[04:35] <bimberi> Madpilot: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdX
[04:36] <sethk> Madpilot, the mount will fail if you give it the wrong type
[04:36] <jayson_I> how to make our own language?
[04:36] <sethk> Madpilot, and it will succeed when you give it the right one
[04:36] <chasmarang> oh good is there any certain commands
[04:36] <jayson_I> i'm planning to build our own language.
[04:36] <Hobbsee> !tell chasmarang about mount
[04:36] <Madpilot> sethk: OK, trial and error it is. Thanks, all
[04:36] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: check your pm from ubotu
[04:36] <basheer> hello all
[04:36] <sethk> Madpilot, only two choices, so it won't take long  :)
[04:37] <sethk> Madpilot, you can, actually, use type=auto and mount will frequently but not always figure out what it is
[04:37] <unixx> is there such thing as disk defragmenter for linux?
[04:37] <chasmarang> no I mean like can I leave out sudo
[04:37] <basheer> can anyone see me type?
[04:37] <NoUse> unixx, you don't need one
[04:37] <ganoosh> should a swap partition be primary or logical?
[04:37] <bimberi> basheer: no
[04:37] <Madpilot> sethk: good to know - off to review man mount, then
[04:37] <chasmarang> and just say mount /dev/hda1 /win/c
[04:37] <unixx> ok
[04:37] <bimberi> basheer: :)
[04:37] <sethk> ganoosh, it really should be primary, but the installer seems to like to make it logical
[04:37] <unixx> basheer i see u
[04:37] <sethk> ganoosh, it makes the installer program logic less complicated, but it's not the optimal solution
[04:38] <dooglus> I just asked to install "build-essential".  It told me it needed to get "0 bytes", and that after install, 41Mb extra would be used.  Why did it have to get 0 bytes?  the packages weren't installed already.
[04:38] <basheer> are pms in red?
[04:38] <sethk> ganoosh, although the difference is probably minute
[04:38] <ganoosh> the only way i can get a main and swap is to have both logical how can i make the main partition prinary
[04:38] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: yes, you can, but you'll probably need mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[04:38] <bimberi> basheer: no, only if your nick is used
[04:38] <basheer> ok
[04:38] <intelikey> yep type=auto fails on floppies with ext2 though cause it sees the msdos sig. and stops looking....
[04:38] <chasmarang> Hobbsee: why
[04:38] <ajmitch_> dooglus: because the packages were in the apt cache, copied from the cd
[04:38] <varsendagger> does anyone have dgen setup so that i can save them
[04:38] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: well, because there's no /win/c folder
[04:38] <Hobbsee> no, hang on...
[04:39] <basheer> has everyone upgraded to breezy?
[04:39] <unixx> i did
[04:39] <unixx> i got my cd;s last night :)
[04:39] <unixx> cd's
[04:39] <Hobbsee> basheer: yes, and got dapper here as well
[04:39] <chasmarang> yes that's where I've made it /win/c
[04:39] <dooglus> ajmitch_: ooh, I see.  is there a lot of other stuff in the cache that isn't used?
[04:39] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: on bootup, or just temporarily?
[04:39] <basheer> seems a little cleaner to me
[04:39] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: as in, do you want to mount this drive on bootup, or just temporarily?
[04:40] <basheer> having trouble with getting some programs like skype
[04:40] <chasmarang> on bootup
[04:40] <basheer> maybe my sources.list is incorrect
[04:40] <unixx> my modem keeps dialing on bootup for sum reason
[04:40] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: see this then http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:40] <bimberi> basheer: skype isn't in the ubuntu repositories ...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2514926 in particular
[04:41] <bimberi> ubotu tell basheer about skype
[04:41] <ajmitch_> dooglus: yeah, there's a reasonable amount that gets copied off the cd
[04:41] <darksoul> any free 3d games out there
[04:41] <ClayG> skype is a GREAT messenger but unfortunatly the people aren't the greatest
[04:41] <ClayG> or at least weren't back 5-6 months ago when i was using it all the time
[04:41] <dooglus> ajmitch_: thanks
[04:41] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, any luck?
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> no same old
[04:42] <darksoul> any free 3d games out there
[04:42] <basheer> I dont know about it
[04:42] <toblerp> darksoul: neverball
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> take longenough to get vack on
[04:42] <Madpilot> darksoul: Enemy Territory & America's Army - and please don't repeat questions like that...
[04:42] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, don't know what to tell you then, someone smarter than I will have to help you
[04:42] <basheer> this dude wants me to get it but not sure if I want it
[04:42] <unixx> anyone know y my modem could keep dialing at bootup?
[04:42] <varsendagger> has anyone gotten dgen to work for loading saved games
[04:42] <PorcupineTree> why might my thunderbird cstop retrieving my mail all the suddon
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> some one else help me then
[04:42] <PorcupineTree> is there a log saying what it is timing out on?
[04:43] <dooglus> I just ran "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" as suggested by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , but even after restarting firefox I still see no flash playing.  Is this a common problem?
[04:43] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, just ask your question and if someone knows they will try
[04:43] <ClayG> basheer,  get it, if for nothing else you can make prank calls and scare people when your caller id pops up "123456789"
[04:43] <_jason> dooglus, install flashplayer-mozilla as well
[04:43] <intelikey> unixx /etc/rcS.d/net*   maybe ?
[04:43] <unixx> okok ill giver a go
[04:43] <ClayG> I like to call people with it then say I'm calling from Iraq on a satalite phones and I'm trying to reach my mother
[04:44] <Comrade_Vladimir> its a little long
[04:44] <basheer> what is dapper?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[04:44] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:44] <PorcupineTree> what do you use clayg?
[04:44] <PorcupineTree> ClayG, What do you use?
[04:44] <ClayG> ?
[04:44] <ClayG> as far as what?
[04:44] <ClayG> messengers?
[04:44] <basheer> when is that to be released?
[04:44] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok my all my media players say there is an error with the card or codec
[04:44] <PorcupineTree> ClayG, For the calling software that you are talking about
[04:44] <ClayG> Skype
[04:44] <Madpilot> to mount a FAT32 drive, should I use vfat? fat32 doesn't seem to be mentioned in man mount.
[04:45] <ClayG> This was 4-5 months ago and it has since been boughbt by paypal/ebay but im sure it's the same deal
[04:45] <intelikey> yes vfat
[04:45] <PorcupineTree> ClayG, You can't call a landline phone with that... can you?
[04:45] <ClayG> I think it was like 2.9 cents a minute
[04:45] <ClayG> yes but you will pay
[04:45] <Madpilot> intelikey: thanks
[04:45] <unixx> im out, later everyone!
[04:45] <intelikey> np
[04:45] <ClayG> it's worth it, heck you can even set up incoming numbers and select the area code you want
[04:45] <PorcupineTree> wow cool
[04:46] <God> does anyone know a good P2P client for linux?
[04:46] <TokenBad> I am going to do vonage
[04:46] <unixx> limewire
[04:46] <ClayG> it's great , very good software but the people on it are a bunch of indian fags (no offense to any indian fags, or any fags at all here)
[04:46] <ClayG> and people from Asia asking you to teach them english
[04:46] <pawan> sudoers question: my machine is called kewl, I want to run nmap from it. On a default sudoers file I just add pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap       after the    root    ALL=(ALL) ALL      line. But sudo nmap kewl      keeps prompting me for a password when I run it as pawan. Clues?
[04:46] <God> I don't like limewire
[04:46] <God> past experiences.
[04:46] <bimberi> God: gtk-gnutella is good
[04:46] <unixx> i like it, i use it on osx
[04:47] <pawan> bimberi : better than xmule?
[04:47] <God> bimberi, Hey thanks. again.
[04:47] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:47] <bimberi> pawan: no idea, i've not used many
[04:47] <dooglus> _jason: as well, or instead of?
[04:47] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one a major in mudia in ubuntu
[04:47] <basheer> bimberi can I see your sources.list?
[04:47] <pawan> che_wicked : > .xsession-errors does it for me.
[04:48] <bimberi> God: np :)
[04:48] <che_wicked> pawan,what would i do?
[04:48] <intelikey> che_wicked sudo rm .xsession*
[04:48] <che_wicked> pawan,ok
[04:48] <bimberi> basheer: sure, mine is just like this - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[04:48] <pawan> che_wicked : if your file is huge, it just zeros it.
[04:48] <_jason> dooglus, I only have the mozilla one isntalled and it works however I have seen people recommend installing both
[04:49] <ClayG> THere was a software on windows, called irc-ork
[04:49] <dooglus> _jason: I removed the 'nonfree' and installed the one you suggested.  that worked, thanks.
[04:49] <che_wicked> pawan,i sudo usin root?
[04:49] <_jason> dooglus, great
[04:49] <dooglus> thanks for all the help over the last few days guys.
[04:49] <bimberi> basheer: note that that sources.list won't get you skype though (guessing where you're coming from)
[04:49] <pawan> intelikey : er... that will rm .xsessionrc or whatever, won't it?
[04:49] <Comrade_Vladimir> though i can put it on my mp3 player and hear it like that
[04:49] <ClayG> it was something else, it created a kazaa/limewire like interface for IRC channels, you could update the list download updated lists and basically you would have everything on irc as an option
[04:49] <dooglus> hopefully I'll go back to answering mode now, rather than asking mode :)
[04:49] <basheer> nah
[04:49] <basheer> I am not really looking for skype
[04:50] <bimberi> basheer: k :)
[04:50] <ClayG> of coarse something super new, or not dropped you would not have but if it was listed on xdccspy or the like <which is about 1 day  max> it's a done deal
[04:50] <gimmulf_> Tomorrow i will switch processor from an amd athlon xp 2600+ to an amd64 + new motherboard.. Do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:50] <basheer> just wondered about it
[04:50] <Madpilot> Odd... I try this: brian@warbard:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd ~/twenty, and get this reponse: mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /home/brian/twenty busy - what's up?
[04:50] <Pupeno> gimmulf_: I'd re-install.
[04:50] <pawan> che_wicked : no. what's the problem anyway? I thought you were probably complaining about .xsession-errors being huge after a long time.
[04:51] <arkanes> gimmulf_: Yes, you will want to re-install
[04:51] <intelikey> pawan yes.   .xsession-error is an auto-generated file that xorg creates in your home dir.....   so removing it should stop any error message about it and let xorg make a new file.
[04:51] <che_wicked> pawan,it says your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and being ignored
[04:51] <versipolis> Madpilot: you arent in the directory are you?
[04:51] <bimberi> Madpilot: hdd is the whole disk.  Maybe hdd1
[04:51] <God> Lol it won't let me ssh into myself.
[04:51] <Madpilot> versipolis: nope, I'm in my own user dir when i'm trying this
[04:51] <basheer> bimberi: that is exactly what yours looks like?
[04:51] <sethk> Madpilot, that's true about hdd, but not causing your message
[04:51] <che_wicked> pawan,i try to login on desktop but that errors apear
[04:52] <sethk> Madpilot, try lsof | grep twenty
[04:52] <ubuntu43e> is there a easy way to get java support in any web browser? I have tried and not had any luck
[04:52] <bimberi> basheer: last time i looked
[04:52] <jayson_I> mono already running in ubuntu?
[04:52] <thrice`> !java
[04:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:52] <Madpilot> sethk: that gets me: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev Output information may be incomplete.
[04:52] <pawan> che_wicked : interesting. I have no idea what .dmrc is. Are you able to login?
[04:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> so deos anyone know why beep displays this error     Couldn't open audio.
[04:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.
[04:53] <sethk> Madpilot, man, it is seriously confused
[04:53] <bored2k> is it 100% safe to remove the 386 kernel image after i start using 686 ?
[04:53] <sethk> Madpilot, this might be a rare situation where rebooting might be justified
[04:53] <pawan> che_wicked : what is the problem?
[04:53] <che_wicked> pawan,i cant login
[04:53] <sethk> bored2k, if you don't run it, you don't need it.  but unless you need the space, what's the point?
[04:53] <che_wicked> pawan,it says your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and being ignored that errors appear
[04:54] <bored2k> sethk, k thanks.
[04:54] <intelikey> looks like 'mount/umount' has a bug on either breezy or dapper  or both,   over the last three days i've seen several people told to reboot to umount a drive.
[04:54] <bimberi> ubuntu43e: Applications -> Add Applications, Internet -> More Programs... -> Java Web Start
[04:54] <jrsims> Can someone concisely explain Gnome themes? It seems there are two flavors of themes in Gnome: metacity and GTK - and there's two versions of GTK. WTF?
[04:54] <fletch33> evening all i am trying to install freenx client and i keep getting this:  $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient &
[04:54] <fletch33> bash: $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient: No such file or directory
[04:54] <fletch33> [1]  20399
[04:54] <fletch33> [1]    Exit 127                $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[04:54] <fletch33>     anyone know how to fix this
[04:54] <intelikey> !flood
[04:54] <ubotu> I heard flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[04:54] <buddy>    I'm having trouble with Telnetd
[04:54] <Madpilot> sethk: actually, using bimberi's suggestion of hdd1 seems to have worked - but lsof is still confused
[04:55] <fletch33> sorry
[04:55] <doub> a bit of an OT question : what's the transition scheme from debian sid to ubuntu universe? seems like some universe apps stuck at the version they were when hoary was released
[04:55] <MrFarts> JRlinux, metacity is not a theme
[04:55] <MrFarts> jrsims, it's a window manager
[04:55] <pawan> che_wicked : google is your friend : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=502659
[04:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> so deos anyone know why beep displays this error     Couldn't open audio.
[04:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> Comrade_Vladimir Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly
[04:55] <MrFarts> gtk is a set of widgets
[04:55] <bimberi> fletch33: following this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX ?
[04:55] <sethk> Madpilot, those are separate issues.  I said that he was right about hdd, but that you have at least two things going on there.  I get worried when things get confused in the file system
[04:55] <buddy> Where does the telnetd install to I couldnt finde etc/initd.d
[04:56] <che_wicked> pawan,ok ty anywaus
[04:56] <fletch33> bimberi,  that is where i started
[04:56] <jrsims> MrFarts: but metacity has themes, right?
[04:56] <MrFarts> JRlinux, no, gtk has themes
[04:56] <Madpilot> sethk: thankfully this is just a junk disc, my main HDD is different...
[04:56] <MrFarts> jrsims, i guess you can say metacity has themes as well because it's configurable
[04:56] <fletch33> bimberi,  i always like to search and try to find answers myself but i am stuck and really need to get this working
[04:56] <bimberi> fletch33: k, just making sure
[04:57] <Cole> fletch33: whats wrong?
[04:57] <intelikey> Madpilot did i read that right did you mount /dev/hdd some place and hdd is a hd not a cd ?
[04:57] <takmadeus> greetings.... may I suggest a package to be added to the repositories, that is, if you don't mind?
[04:57] <jrsims> MrFarts: hmm. So all themes in Gnome are GTK?
[04:57] <fletch33> look at my paste above
[04:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> is there a better way to get a response?
[04:57] <thrice`> takmadeus, what package is that ?
[04:57] <Cole> fletch33: i wasn't in room
[04:57] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, try the forums
[04:57] <MrFarts> jrsims, yes
[04:58] <cowbud> can someone point me to the oldworld instructions on installing to a g3 powerbook for ubuntu
[04:58] <fletch33> Cole, well i dont want to paste again how can i show u this
[04:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok where r they
[04:58] <Madpilot> intelikey: it's an ATA hard drive, showing as hdd, that I've got mounted to /home/brian/twenty now
[04:58] <thrice`> !install
[04:58] <ubotu> I guess install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:58] <_jason> !forum
[04:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:58] <takmadeus> thrice`: it is a frontend for visualboyadvance
[04:58] <jrsims> MrFarts: maybe you know the answer to this - Firefox follows the theme I've set for Gnome. Synaptic doesn't. Why is that?
[04:58] <Madpilot> intelikey: my CD drives are hda & hdb
[04:58] <Cole> pastebin.com
[04:58] <takmadeus> thrice`: I found a deb package made for ubuntu
[04:58] <thrice`> takmadeus, the best place to suggest would be the backport forums, at ubuntuforums.org
[04:59] <MrFarts> jrsims, i don't know what synaptic is -- perhaps it's not a gtk application or it uses an older version of gtk
[04:59] <takmadeus> thrice`: so I thought it would be useful to add it to the repositories
[04:59] <intelikey> Madpilot i may not understand you correctly but don't you mount hdd1  rather than hdd ?
[04:59] <fletch33> Cole,  basiccaly my terminal says $/usr/nx/bin/nxclient: no such file or directory
[04:59] <Cole> fletch33: err http://pastebin.ca/
[04:59] <bimberi> fletch33: it
[04:59] <takmadeus> thrice`: thanks for the advice
[04:59] <bimberi> fletch33: it's NX (case sensitive)
[04:59] <Madpilot> intelikey: yes - trying just "hdd" wasn't working, "hdd1" did - it's mounted now
[04:59] <bimberi> fletch33: as in /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[04:59] <takmadeus> thrice`: Good luck to you all ;)
[04:59] <fletch33> bimberi, i am sorry that i swhat is says NX
[04:59] <intelikey> mounting the disk of a hard drive is bad,  always mount partitions.
[04:59] <thrice`> takmadeus, sure thing,
[05:00] <tman_ubuntu> Can someone help me with the Tar command please?
[05:00] <MrFarts> jrsims, oh, it's the ubuntu package manager ... it should follow themes
[05:00] <Madpilot> intelikey: Linux (obviously) thinks in terms of partitions even when the whole disc is one partition
[05:00] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, what's the question
[05:00] <thrice`> tman_ubuntu, did you ask "man tar" first ?
[05:00] <intelikey> yes Madpilot
[05:00] <bimberi> fletch33: sorry, just re-read your earlier paste
[05:00] <Cole> fletch3: linux is CaSe SenSiTiVe so depending on what you type.. it might actually not be what you mean
[05:00] <tman_ubuntu> I'm trying to exclude directories but the --exclude option doesn't seem to work.
[05:01] <cowbud> anyone ubuntu ppc people here?
[05:01] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, what do you mean by exclude directories ?
[05:01] <intelikey> you never mound a disk you only mount a file system on a disk.  be it hd cd or what ever.
[05:01] <sethk> tman_ubuntu, the position on the line is important with that command
[05:01] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30492
[05:01] <tman_ubuntu> I'll post my command...
[05:01] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i don't care about your command
[05:01] <sethk> tman_ubuntu, good idea
[05:01] <darksoul> hey my freind just downloaded ubuntu and he cant get his ethernet card working, he looked under system administration and networking but it doesnt show a eithernet card either.. just modem..and ideas
[05:01] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i am asking what you are trying to actually do
[05:01] <fletch33> bimberi,  i dont know what the problem is
[05:02] <sethk> darksoul, is it a very odd ethernet card?  old, or very new?
[05:02] <Epic_> how the crap do I mount a drive in the livecd?
[05:02] <sethk> MrFarts, off hand, it sounds like he is trying to exclude directories
[05:02] <bimberi> fletch33: you did install the nxclient package (sudo apt-get install nxclient)?
[05:02] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts: I'm trying to backup.  As a test, I'm doing MyDocuments directory.
[05:02] <darksoul> ill ask
[05:02] <darksoul> sethk: im asking him
[05:02] <sethk> darksoul, k
[05:02] <MrFarts> sethk, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense
[05:02] <fletch33> bimberi,  yes and it says i have the latest version
[05:02] <tman_ubuntu> here is the command I'm running:  tar cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music
[05:02] <intelikey> sethk didn't mean to cut in on you and Madpilot, carry on
[05:02] <Cole> fletch33: try typing "ls -l /usr/NX/bin" and what does it say
[05:02] <sethk> MrFarts, sure it does.  I do it frequently
[05:02] <darksoul> sethk: Very new, i brought it ysturday
[05:03] <sethk> MrFarts, why wouldn't it?
[05:03] <darksoul> sethk: just repeting what he said
[05:03] <sethk> darksoul, well, that's not exactly what I meant by new  :)
[05:03] <ubuntu43e> im trying to install java but it tells me that   could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock   then says unable to unlock the administration directory
[05:03] <sethk> darksoul, what kind of card is it?
[05:03] <darksoul> sethk: ill ask
[05:03] <bimberi> fletch33: k :) (sry, had to ask)
[05:03] <cyphase> Does anyone have any wireless card working out of the box on a desktop running Ubuntu?
[05:03] <Madpilot> intelikey: it's is mounted now, I'm just going to delete everything on it and reformat the thing...
[05:03] <MrFarts> sethk, it's an ambiguous statement
[05:03] <Epic_> anyone?
[05:03] <Amaranth> ubuntu43e: do you have synaptic open?
[05:03] <Cole> ubuntu43e: do you have anything else runnign for an update? or synaptic open?
[05:03] <Epic_> The wiki hsn't helped
[05:03] <MrFarts> sethk, do you flatten out your directory tree or do you just backup files in a given directory without doing subdirectories ?
[05:03] <Razor-X> cyphase: Netgear cards are supported by the kernel by default, IIRC
[05:03] <sethk> cyphase, I have two laptops I loaded up today that worked out of the box.  A card with the same chipset would be the same
[05:03] <fletch33> Cole, k 1 sec
[05:03] <ubuntu43e> im using terminal as the directions said to
[05:03] <versipolis> cyphase: never had a problem with orinoco cards..
[05:03] <intelikey> Madpilot you need to umount it for that.
[05:04] <Razor-X> cyphase: generally because they use Tulip
[05:04] <ubuntu43e> yea
[05:04] <Razor-X> (that's the chipset)
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, typically I exclude something that I know is already backed up and not recently changed
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, and large
[05:04] <ubuntu43e> i got synaptic open
[05:04] <Madpilot> intelikey: to reformat? thanks, that would have been my next question ;)
[05:04] <darksoul> sethk: im glade to see your still here lol. anyway he says 'INTEX RTL 8139D LAN Card'
[05:04] <ubuntu43e> i just caught it at the bottom
[05:04] <fletch33> Cole, no such file or directory
[05:04] <MrFarts> sethk, that's not the same as "excluding directories"
[05:04] <Cole> ubuntu43e: you can't have 2 programs in the update stuff at the same time
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, of course it is
[05:04] <intelikey> Madpilot sudo umount /dev/hdd1  ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd1
[05:04] <MrFarts> sethk, no it's not
[05:04] <sethk> darksoul, let me see if that occurs in the kernel source
[05:04] <Cole> fletch33: how did you install the NX client?
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, if you say so
[05:04] <mtupper> hey, can somebody help me with a real rookie problem?  how do I run winesetuptk?  i know its installed as i tried to install it and it said it was already installed, but I just cant figure out how to launch it...    i know its a total newbie ? but it is wine, so...
[05:05] <fletch33> directions from the wiki
[05:05] <darksoul> sethk: ?
[05:05] <OracleofWuffing> Hi, I've been having some discouraging difficulties with another OS and a fresh S-ATA hard drive, and I'm just wondering if Ubuntu is okay being installed on a S-ATA drive.
[05:05] <Cole> fletch33: link?
[05:05] <MrFarts> sethk, for a group of geeks you people are awfully vague
[05:05] <intelikey> that will format it fat32  i assumed from your earlier post.
[05:05] <Madpilot> intelikey: would it be "mkfs.ext3" to format it w/ ext3?
[05:05] <sethk> darksoul, I'm checking for support for that card
[05:05] <ubuntu43e> ok that got me past that problem
[05:05] <intelikey> yes
[05:05] <ubuntu43e> im getting there
[05:05] <Razor-X> mtupper: who/what told you to run winesetuptk?
[05:05] <bimberi> fletch33: does "dpkg -L nxclient" output anything?
[05:05] <tman_ubuntu> sethk, MrFarts, then what is the correct syntax for excluding directories using Tar?
[05:05] <fletch33> Cole, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:05] <intelikey> you can add -c if you want to test for bad blocks Madpilot
[05:05] <fletch33> bimberi,  1 sec
[05:05] <mtupper> razor-x: the description in synaptic...
[05:06] <cyphase> Razor-X, I have a Netgear WG311v2 card that is specifically mentioned in the wiki, but it's not working
[05:06] <Madpilot> intelikey: probably a good idea, this is not a new drive
[05:06] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i honestly don't understand what you mean by "exclude directories" -- read above
[05:06] <freakman> does anyone know a good note-taking app?
[05:06] <Razor-X> cyphase: does it use tulip? I know older netgear cards use tulip and work out of the box like a charm
[05:06] <sethk> freakman, actually, no, I was considering writing one.  but there probably is one I haven't found.
[05:06] <tman_ubuntu> how 'bout exclude files and directories?
[05:06] <Epic_> You gotta be joking. No one can help me with a mount
[05:06] <Madpilot> freakman: Tomboy is sort of cool for little post-it note type thigns
[05:06] <cyphase> Razor-X, i don't know
[05:06] <freakman> I need something for taking class notes...
[05:06] <cyphase> i just tried using a PCMCIA -> PCI bridge card and a supported PCMCIA card, but the bridge isn't supported
[05:06] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, directories are files, but ok .. .:)
[05:06] <freakman> sethk: you should do it :-)
[05:06] <Madpilot> Epic_: read "man mount" - it should work on a LiveCD as well
[05:07] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, and on what basis would you like to exclude them ?
[05:07] <ubuntu43e> it tells me know that it cant find the java package
[05:07] <tman_ubuntu> Basically I'm trying to backup a directory.  some of the children directories i don't want to be tarred.  How do I exclude them?
[05:07] <Razor-X> mtupper: use ``wine program.exe'' and it should work out of the house
[05:07] <ubuntu43e> which i downloaded and it on the desktop
[05:07] <Epic_> k
[05:07] <sethk> freakman, I was thinking more of journal writing, but the requirements are probably very similar
[05:07] <ubuntu43e> and im running those commands from that directory
[05:07] <freakman> sethk: yeah
[05:07] <sethk> tman_ubuntu, did you post the command?
[05:07] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, depends on what you know about the files
[05:07] <cyphase> Razor-X, what exactly is tulip?
[05:07] <fletch33> bimberi, Cole http://pastebin.ca/30495
[05:07] <freakman> hmmm
[05:07] <tman_ubuntu> Yes I did.
[05:07] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if you have a pattern to use you can use --exclude
[05:07] <Razor-X> cyphase: it's the name of a chipset
[05:07] <darksoul> sethk: well?
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, otherwise, i would do it through find
[05:08] <freakman> how would you install http://basket.kde.org on ubuntu?
[05:08] <sethk> darksoul, hold on, it takes a little time
[05:08] <cyphase> oh
[05:08] <cyphase> lol
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, or do incremental tar
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if that's what you want
[05:08] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, that's what I'm asking and trying to do.  It doesn't seem to work though.
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, where's the command string ?
[05:08] <tman_ubuntu> tar cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music
[05:09] <Cole> fletch33: sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin
[05:09] <TokenBad> Epic_, what you trying to mount?
[05:09] <jrsims> ah, how do I get drop-shadows in Gnome?
[05:09] <sethk> darksoul, I'm not seeing it.  It is possible that it is compatible with an earlier intel card
[05:09] <sethk> darksoul, also, some of the intel cards are repackaged marvel cards
[05:09] <freakman> sethk: do you know how to install http://basket.kde.org?
[05:09] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, so what do you think.  Does it look ok?
[05:09] <Orborde> I need a program to convert a file to base64. I assume there is one; I just don't know where it is.
[05:09] <arkanes> jrsims: you need to enable compositing and install & run a composite manager
[05:09] <sethk> freakman, let me take a look
[05:09] <aspro> freakman: install the debian package or check universe?
[05:10] <jrsims> arkanes: synaptic?
[05:10] <freakman> aspro: what's universe?
[05:10] <synackuator> can anyone point me to a good howto on rebuilding my kernel?
[05:10] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, no
[05:10] <arkanes> jrsims: it's a little more complicated than that, there's no magic "turn on" switch for it yet
[05:10] <aspro> the ubuntu repositories
[05:10] <synackuator> i can't seem to find one on ubuntuforums
[05:10] <darksoul> sethk: hummm so basicly itys out to get anotehr one
[05:10] <bimberi> fletch33: well there it is, line 7 :/
[05:10] <tman_ubuntu> What is out of place?
[05:10] <Epic_> Just a ide drive
[05:10] <ubuntu43e> I guess im just stuck.. i cant get it to install java
[05:10] <sethk> freakman, the source version would be easy enough to install
[05:10] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, put the --exclude before the file arguments
[05:10] <jrsims> arkanes: drat. do you have drop-shadows enabled/
[05:10] <Epic_> and I don't seem to ahve a dev/fstab
[05:10] <Cole> bimberi: i think it is a permission issue
[05:11] <Cole> bimberi: where his user doesn't have rights to even read the directory
[05:11] <freakman> sethk: I'll take a look :-)
[05:11] <sethk> darksoul, I would first go to Intel's web site and see if they reference a driver.  They sometimes do, these days
[05:11] <MrFarts> also, i don't see where exclude takes an "="
[05:11] <ubuntu43e> it says it cant find the file and its the only file in the current directory
[05:11] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, read the manpage
[05:11] <arkanes> jrsims: the composite manager occasionally locks up X for me, so I turned them back off
[05:11] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, oh sorry, it does ...
[05:12] <jrsims> arkanes: too bad. So what's the holdup on that feature for gnome?
[05:12] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, but anyway, it needs to go in the beginning
[05:12] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, I did read the man page.  Sometimes those are about as cryptic as ancient chinese.
[05:12] <fletch33> Cole,  i got " nxclient, mxesd,nxprint,mxssh
[05:12] <bimberi> Cole: good thinking
[05:12] <fletch33> bimberi, what does that mean then
[05:12] <Cole> fletch33: will you pastebin it i want to see permissions/owner/group stuff
[05:12] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, so the --exclude should go before "MyDocuments"?
[05:12] <ubuntu43e> I know it i can see how windows has such a massive user base
[05:12] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu,  tar --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music -cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments
[05:12] <Epic_> Nor is there a ect/mtab
[05:12] <Epic_> wtf
[05:12] <ookami> anyone know what:  "XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" means?
[05:13] <fletch33> Cole,  how do i do that
[05:13] <sethk> MrFarts, now you are using the =  :)
[05:13] <Madpilot> wow, deleting 7Gb of stuff with -v set in rm causes a lot of scrolling... ;)
[05:13] <ubuntu43e> i cant even get stupid java support to work
[05:13] <MrFarts> sethk, the manpage says it's ok :)
[05:13] <arkanes> jrsims: just general "work in progress" stuff and packaging issues
[05:13] <Cole> sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin
[05:13] <bimberi> fletch33: "sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin" -> pastebin
[05:13] <PorcupineTree> Hello
[05:13] <jrsims> arkanes: is it on the list for future Gnome releases?
[05:13] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if you read the manpage it says that the options should go before the file names
[05:13] <PorcupineTree> Does thunderbird hav a logfile that tells what is going on during connection?
[05:14] <PorcupineTree> it is halthing when I try to access email
[05:14] <ubuntu43e> it makes no sense to go thru 30 mins of garbage just to get a java plug in
[05:14] <PorcupineTree> it has worked for monthes
[05:14] <arkanes> jrsims: I believe so, they're working on merging some of the work done with luminocity
[05:14] <TokenBad> epic you mounting a plain windows drive?
[05:14] <versipolis> exit
[05:14] <jrsims> arkanes: what's luminocity?
[05:14] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, we have told you a few solutiosn now
[05:14] <Epic_> Si
[05:14] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, I just tried your version and it still didn't work.  It still included the "My Music" directory.
[05:14] <fletch33> bimberi, i typed that
[05:14] <freakman> sethk: I'm getting errors
[05:14] <fletch33> bimberi,  and nothing
[05:14] <Epic_> Yes
[05:15] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, your pattern is probably wrong
[05:15] <arkanes> jrsims: experimental window manager for gnome that implements all sorts of fancy bling
[05:15] <thrice`> tman_ubuntu, what command are you using exactly
[05:15] <ookami> im trying to do ./configure on eog source but im getting:  XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool ... no idea what it means. am i missing something? i have the essential build tools...
[05:15] <TokenBad> did you first try sudo fdisk -l to list your partitions?
[05:15] <sethk> freakman, such as?  or put the errors on a 'bot.  but usually only the first two or three error lines matter
[05:15] <Cole> fletch33: how did you know the 4 files.. i want to see all the output for the files
[05:15] <aspro> freakman: did you try the debian package? most .debs work in ubuntu
[05:15] <jrsims> arkanes: slick. that makes me happy. :)
[05:15] <thrice`> ubotu, tell ubuntu43e about java
[05:15] <fletch33> bimberi,  it justs says " nxclient, nxesd, nxprint, nxssh "
[05:15] <freakman> aspro: I don't think there's a package for basket
[05:15] <Hobbsee> !tell ubuntu43e about javadebs
[05:15] <ubuntu43e> does anyone know a better way to get java support in a web browser??
[05:15] <ubuntu43e> I cant get this to work
[05:15] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, that pattern isn't going to match unless you are backing up from the root directory
[05:15] <aspro> there is, on that url you pasted
[05:16] <Cole> fletch33: did you put the -l in there thats a dash L
[05:16] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, check your PM; ubotu has told you a few ways
[05:16] <aspro> below the source download
[05:16] <Cole> fletch33: but lowercase L
[05:16] <tman_ubuntu> Ah.  Ok.  Let me go to root then.
[05:16] <aspro> http://basket.kde.org/downloads/?file=basket-0.5.0-debian
[05:16] <fletch33> Cole, ok i will try again sorry
[05:16] <thrice`> tman_ubuntu, what command did you use?
[05:16] <ubuntu43e> i didnt see the pms sorry
[05:16] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, why don't you change the pattern ?
[05:16] <Epic_> I can see documents stating drive model and driver stuff in /proc/ide/hda
[05:16] <echo> Hello, I need activex controls for Steam to load using Wine.  I can get it installed, but then it hangs after update.  I've tried installing activex controls but get error mesg. 202
[05:16] <Cole> fletch33: np .... -l is for long format.. it shows more info
[05:16] <otep> ookami: i think, apt-get install libxml-parser-perl might help
[05:16] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if you are backing up from the root dir, you will have to exclude a lot more crap ;)
[05:17] <TokenBad> Epic_, did you read what i said?
[05:17] <TokenBad> did you first try sudo fdisk -l to list partitions?
[05:17] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, "My Music" is probably a sufficient exclude pattern
[05:17] <PorcupineTree> Does thunderbird have a log file?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> aspro: IIRC basket is in respositories
[05:17] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, *My Music*
[05:17] <MrFarts> that is
[05:17] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, use wildcards
[05:18] <Epic_> I did
[05:18] <TokenBad> ok
[05:18] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, Hot damn it worked.  If you were here, I'd kiss you or shake you hand.  Thanks.
[05:18] <TokenBad> and you found the partition you wanted to mount?
[05:18] <Cole> echo: what program are you trying to run in wine?
[05:18] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, what did you do ?
[05:18] <Epic_> It did nothing
[05:18] <echo> steam, for half-life 2 cs:s so on
[05:18] <fletch33> Cole,  " ls: user/NX/bin: No such file or directory"
[05:18] <fredforfaen> im currently running the k7 kernel on breezy with nvidia installed...i want to start use a i686 kernel....i got the kernel installed and it work fine but i cant seem to get ubuntu to activate 3d accelleration for my new kernel...what to do?
[05:18] <tman_ubuntu> ran it from the root directory.
[05:18] <aspro> Hobbsee: ahh Im on my mac atm so I cant check
[05:19] <bimberi> fletch33: usr not user
[05:19] <Cole> fletch: sorry no e in "sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin"
[05:19] <Hobbsee> aspro: i just did, it's there
[05:19] <Orborde> How do I re-encode a WAV file into FLAC?
[05:19] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i'm not sure that was a good idea
[05:19] <Hobbsee> !tell aspro about info basket
[05:19] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i just said it would make the pattern work
[05:19] <Hobbsee> aspro: in universe
[05:19] <fredforfaen> do i have to uninstall nvidia first or?
[05:19] <aspro> Hobbsee: I'm not after it, freakman is :)
[05:19] <sethk> fredforfaen, start by doing lsmod for the working kernel, and for the new kernel, and see what's different
[05:19] <tman_ubuntu> Why not.  It accomplished what I was trying to do, didn't it?
[05:19] <intelikey> cole no sudo in ls   :)
[05:20] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, well now you'd have to extract it from root in order to get all the paths correct
[05:20] <Hobbsee> freakman: basket is in the repositories, universe section
[05:20] <Cole> intelikey: his user account can't read the directory
[05:20] <Hobbsee> aspro: ah, didnt see that
[05:20] <mhz> hi all
[05:20] <intelikey> oh
[05:20] <Cole> intelikey: permissions are fubar
[05:20] <freakman> Hobbsee: it is?
[05:20] <mhz> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuRequestDay
[05:20] <Hobbsee> freakman: yes
[05:20] <otep> !tell otep about eclipse
[05:20] <fredforfaen> sethk i bet its the nvidia module thats different the i686 dont have it i presume
[05:20] <Hobbsee> !tell freakman about repos
[05:20] <sethk> fredforfaen, well, of course that will change things.  :)
[05:20] <sethk> Hobbsee, you didn't make your car payment?  :)
[05:20] <fletch33> Cole, bimberi http://pastebin.ca/30497
[05:21] <tman_ubuntu> That is my intentions.  I see your point though.  Since we are on relative paths, how would I do it with relatives?
[05:21] <freakman> Hobbsee: thanks :-)
[05:21] <Hobbsee> hehehe sethk
[05:21] <Hobbsee> no problems freakman
[05:21] <freakman> I'm a linux n00b ;-)
[05:21] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, do what -- come up with a correct exclude pattern ?
[05:21] <freakman> this is my 2nd day using ubuntu :-)
[05:21] <TokenBad> sup Hobbsee...how you doing?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> you'll learn lol
[05:21] <fredforfaen> sethk do i have to uninstall all nvidia/glx stuff then install it again from my i686 kernel?
[05:21] <mhz> or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuRequestDay
[05:21] <Hobbsee> TokenBad: hey...good, just sitting here chatting to people
[05:21] <tman_ubuntu> Well, use the exclude pattern from a relative directory such as MyDocuments and not from the root.
[05:22] <sethk> fredforfaen, no, although the installer will recopy it
[05:22] <varsendagger> freakman, apt-cache search ______    this is the coolest utility ever
[05:22] <TokenBad> been a while...I tried going to another distro
[05:22] <TokenBad> but had to come back to ubuntu
[05:22] <varsendagger> then you can apt-get it
[05:22] <sethk> fredforfaen, that stuff is installed into the X directory tree, not the kernel source tree
[05:22] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, either 1. give it the relative path from where you are
[05:22] <MrFarts> 2. use a wildcard
[05:22] <Cole> fletch33: how about a "sudo -l /usr/NX" and then a "sudo -l /usr"
[05:22] <PorcupineTree> does thunderbird have a log file?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> TokenBad: what'd you use instead?
[05:22] <psusi> varsendagger, synaptic is nicer
[05:22] <fredforfaen> whats should i do then?
[05:22] <fletch33> Cole, k 1 sec
[05:22] <TokenBad> fedora
[05:22] <tman_ubuntu> Using relative path from where I am gives me the problem as stated before.
[05:22] <Cole> fletch33: np
[05:22] <PorcupineTree> for logging what went on during a connection failure
[05:22] <Hobbsee> fun
[05:23] <varsendagger> apt-cache is faster
[05:23] <TokenBad> oh yeah it was
[05:23] <jrsims> PorcupineTree: your nick - from a song?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> PorcupineTree: if it does, it'll be somewhere in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[05:23] <PorcupineTree> jrsims,  not from a song, but the name of a band..
[05:23] <jrsims> PorcupineTree: ah. thought I'd seen it somewhere.
[05:23] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, you're not doing it correctly
[05:23] <varsendagger> freakman, you can do that for tetris and then it will show you what you can download
[05:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone here use inkscape
[05:24] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: I do
[05:24] <PorcupineTree> Hobbsee, Looked there :)
[05:24] <bob_4_a_day> ok i'm back.
[05:24] <fredforfaen> can anybody help me pls?
[05:24] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, OK.  I got it to work just as you said.  Thanks a bunch.
[05:24] <fletch33> Cole, http://pastebin.ca/30498
[05:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, i installed the deb but it only works under root....have u had this problem?
[05:25] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: Are you trying to install 0.43 or something?
[05:25] <JRlinux> Sorry I was away.  Somebody said something to me, but it scrolled past me.
[05:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, no...the one from the repo
[05:25] <Cole> fletch33: err my bad ... "sudo ls -l /usr/NX" and "sudo ls -l /usr"
[05:25] <fletch33> Cole, ha 1 sec
[05:26] <PorcupineTree> Any tips for seeing why thunderbird is no longer connecting to my mailserver?
[05:26] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: Did you install with Synaptic/apt-get?
[05:26] <PorcupineTree> I can ping it
[05:26] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, ok :)
[05:26] <thompa-A> !kubuntu
[05:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:26] <fredforfaen> how do i uninstall all the nvidia stuff?
[05:26] <rixth> Gonna give GIMP 2.4 a whirl now.
[05:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, no...im using kde...so i used adept
[05:27] <thrice`> anyone have good solutions for streaming video in firefox, pref. not using mplayer?
[05:27] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30499
[05:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, its version 0.42-1build1
[05:27] <thunderbolt> thrice`: why can't you use mplayer?
[05:27] <Amaranth> thrice`: totem-xine + the totem firefox plugin
[05:27] <thrice`> thunderbolt, it's compiled so bad in ubuntu, with terrible deps
[05:27] <Amaranth> thrice`: plus w32codecs if you're evil ;)
[05:28] <thrice`> Amaranth, there is a totem firefox plugin?  is it in the repos?
[05:28] <thrice`> mozplugger?
[05:28] <Amaranth> thrice`: Should be there by default.
[05:28] <Amaranth> no, a real plugin
[05:28] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: I definitely do not have that problem - I'm running in GNOME, but I don't see why that would change things.  Do you get any errors when running inkscape from konsole as a normal user?
[05:28] <thrice`> hrm...interesting
[05:28] <thrice`> Amaranth, thanks for the tip...I'll check it out :)
[05:28] <thrice`> Amaranth, it works for you ?
[05:29] <Cole> fletch33: ooohh ok.. are you trying to use sudo to start the client?
[05:29] <Moco> I have made a Samba shared folder. When I try to access it from  my Windows computer, it asks for a username and password. When i enter that, it just prompts again. What is going on?
[05:29] <thrice`> Amaranth, the first google return was "totem plugin does NOT work" :P
[05:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, yes i do....   *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x00002aaaadfaa278 ***
[05:29] <Amaranth> thrice`: I don't watch streaming video.
[05:29] <fletch33> Cole,  start the client
[05:29] <Amaranth> thrice`: Probably because they have totem-gstreamer.
[05:29] <thrice`> Amaranth, hm; interesting.  I mainly want it for streaming apple trailers
[05:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, its runs under root no problem
[05:30] <Cole> fletch33: when you where trying to type /usr/NX/bin/nxclient & where you putting sudo in front of it?
[05:30] <Ep|phany> are there any other p2p other then frostwire i cant seem to get it to work
[05:30] <dducko> !limewire
[05:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[05:30] <fletch33> Cole, i didnt realize i only needed the client on here and i installed the rest on the machine i am trying to control
[05:30] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: Try asking in #inkscape - you could also try installing the new 0.43 autopackages.
[05:30] <fletch33> Cole, yes
[05:31] <Ep|phany> limewire works on ubuntu?
[05:31] <dducko> Yes
[05:31] <Moco> I have made a Samba shared folder. When I try to access it from  my Windows computer, it asks for a username and password. When I enter that, it just prompts again. What is going on?
[05:31] <bimberi> !limewire
[05:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[05:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> yeah
[05:31] <Cole> fletch: type whoami  what does it say?
[05:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, ok ill try that channel.....i cant install anyother packages because auto-apt doesnt offer deps and i dont know deps
[05:31] <fletch33> Cole,  i tyoed "$sudo apt-get install nxclient" to install and then "$/usr/NX/bin/nxclient &" to start it
[05:32] <hav0k> hey, how do i make a partition on my drive for installing another os?
[05:32] <odie5533> Anyone know why the embedded video files in firefox only play for about 2 seconds?
[05:32] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, thx for the help tho
[05:32] <fletch33> Cole,  but it says it cant find it in /bin
[05:32] <ueuecoyotl> I'm trying to configure my Logitech MX1000 mouse, and at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=7b920048579372524f02e28aac74c829&p=460250&postcount=119 it says that I should edit ~/.gnomerc but there is no such file. Can I make it _anywhere_ (ie /home)?
[05:32] <Cole> fletch33: can't find /bin when you do what?
[05:32] <snowowl> Under System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It
[05:32] <pawan> sudoers question: my machine is called kewl, I want to run nmap from it. On a default sudoers file I just add pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap       after the    root    ALL=(ALL) ALL      line. But sudo nmap kewl      keeps prompting me for a password when I run it as pawan. Clues?
[05:33] <Ep|phany> k i extracted that and have java installed what file do i run
[05:33] <bob_4_a_day> i don't remember who it was with the fubar'd perms on /usr/blah  but for checking things like that i kinda like 'stat -c"%a %F" /usr/blah'  it doesn't try to list the directory content it just shows perms and type of inode.    (for future refferance)
[05:33] <bimberi> Moco: you'll need to add a samba account - "sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>", then use that username/password
[05:33] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30500
[05:33] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:33] <Slaj_R> Question:  After installing xmms, freepats, timidity, and xmms-midi, when I try to launch a midi file with xmms, the program crashes.  Xmms handles other media just fine, btw.
[05:33] <psusi> bob_4_a_day, ls -ld /usr/blah should work as well
[05:34] <snowowl> Under System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It
[05:34] <Cole> fletch33: ok you don't have to type $
[05:34] <ubuntu43e> I install everything but not one single java based game will work
[05:34] <ubuntu43e> something must not be right
[05:34] <Cole> fletch33: you know your currently root.. there is no need to be root.. be your normal user sean
[05:35] <fletch33> Cole,  so get rid of $ for starting or when i installed
[05:35] <ubuntu43e> im using /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java to provide java... that would be correct?
[05:35] <Agrajag> ubuntu43e: you probably need sun java
[05:35] <Agrajag> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:35] <pawan> snowowl : it's probably a missing package from gnome or ubuntu network admin.
[05:35] <Moco> Thanks bimberi
[05:35] <ubuntu43e> I just installed it
[05:35] <Cole> fletch33: either.. you don't need to put a $ in front.. that means as a normal user.. where as # is the prompt when your root
[05:35] <homer> i've got a lovely bunch of coccanuts
[05:35] <Agrajag> Then why are you not using it?
[05:35] <bimberi> Moco: np :)
[05:35] <bob_4_a_day> pawan look for your name above that.   it will stop searching at the first line that works with the given command.....
[05:35] <Agrajag> That;s GNU gcj
[05:36] <Slaj_R> Oh, and here's a twist:  I just discovered that when I invoke xmms from the command prompt, the file plays.
[05:36] <ubuntu43e> i dont know how to select it
[05:36] <fletch33> Cole,  so i should install again and then execute again
[05:36] <snowowl> Under System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It
[05:36] <rixth> How do I get a list of currently loaded kernel modules?
[05:36] <Cole> fletch33: do you see how your currently root@Sean ???  you should be root unless you are doing something very specific
[05:36] <me__> is there  a guide to optimize ubuntu even more
[05:36] <bob_4_a_day> rixth lsmod
[05:36] <ubuntu43e> I run this command and only see 2 options  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:36] <bimberi> rixth: lsmod
[05:36] <Cole> fletch33: err should NOT be root (typo)
[05:37] <rixth> Thanks
[05:37] <ubuntu43e> what should I see?
[05:37] <fletch33> Cole,  ok how do i change that (sorry and thanks)
[05:37] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : er... I have the default sudoer file, ie it is pristine and unsullied by my hands until I add in my nmap line using visudo.
[05:37] <ubuntu43e> I went by the install guide and didnt get any errors installing it
[05:37] <Cole> fletch33: np.. did you at soem point do a "sudo su"?
[05:38] <fletch33> Cole,  dont htink so
[05:38] <Cole> fletch33: how did you open your terminal?
[05:38] <fletch33> Cole, with a shortkut i made on my desktop
[05:38] <ubuntu43e> How am i supposted to make it sun java run?
[05:38] <Cole> fletch33: do you know what that shortcut points to?
[05:39] <fletch33> Cole, cant remeber
[05:39] <pawan> snowowl: apt-get install ubuntu-standard may do it
[05:39] <fletch33> Cole,  bad typer sorry
[05:39] <bob_4_a_day> pawan get sudoers fixed ?
[05:40] <fletch33> Cole, apps, system tools, root terminal
[05:40] <Cole> fletch33: it isn't a problem. it appears that the shortcut creates a terminal as root the super user.. i would suggest using the terminal in Applications-Accessories-Terminal
[05:40] <subbie> hey, i setup apache2 and php4, but for some reason instead of displaying PHP pages the browser prompts me to download them.  does anybody know how i could possibly fix this?
[05:40] <ubuntu43e> is there any way i can check and make sure java is installed right.. as its not working
[05:40] <fletch33> Cole,  and restarting the whole gat apt
[05:40] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : I have a default sudoers file, I thought. I'll purge and reinstall it, and try the add again.
[05:40] <Cole> fletch33: that is the super user one.. with that one if not careful. you can mess your system up. its like typing sudo in front of every command
[05:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie you have to tell apache to interpret the php
[05:41] <fletch33> Cole,  thanks for your help i will try that
[05:41] <Cole> fletch33: i'd close that window and open up a normal on from the accessories window
[05:41] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: how would i go about doing this?
[05:41] <wwallace> is ubuntu better than kanotix?
[05:41] <Cole> fletch33: then i have a couple thigns for you to try.. we will fix the permissions on the fiels .. and then hopefully get the application to start
[05:41] <thunderbolt> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on systemax laptops?
[05:41] <crimsun> wwallace: inappropriate question. Use it and discover yourself.
[05:41] <fletch33> Cole,  k ready
[05:41] <thunderbolt> wwallace: YES! *grin*
[05:41] <bob_4_a_day> pawan look for your name above that.   sudo will stop searching sudoers at the first line that works with the given command.....  so order is king there.
[05:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, does httpd.conf have the php module loading?
[05:42] <Cole> fletch33: "sudo chown -R root /usr/NX"
[05:42] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: let me see if i can figure that out
[05:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie one sec and I'll tell you what it needs
[05:42] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, are u there?
[05:42] <ubuntu43e> fuck linux
[05:42] <ubuntu43e> no help
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> im trying but no one is helping
[05:43] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : ouch. it want's to remove gdm and a few other thngs too. My name only comes up after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL   line.
[05:43] <fletch33> Cole,  k got sean@sean
[05:43] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i dont believe that it has the module loading.
[05:43] <thunderbolt> ubuntu43e: what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, ...language pls
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> i cant get java to work
[05:43] <xxvii> ok.. i am getting an error while trying to burn a .cue CD image.. anyone help me with this?
[05:43] <bob_4_a_day> pawan group admin ?
[05:43] <Cole> fletch33: good.. now try the command "sudo chown -R root /usr/NX" if you haven't yet
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> i already have download the deb and another java package from su
[05:43] <thrice`> xxvii, you know the .cue isn't the image right? :)
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> sun
[05:43] <fredforfaen> I just uninstalled nvidia-glx and changed drver: "nvidia" to "nv"....changed to my new i686 kernel and followed the howto on nvidia.....it didnt install the nvidia driver for that kernel it installed it on my old kernel...get that
[05:44] <bob_4_a_day> the first user account is in the admin group pawan
[05:44] <ubuntu43e> and also i installed everything in terminal and got no errors
[05:44] <ubuntu43e> but no java based game will work
[05:44] <thunderbolt> have you checked your shell variables?
[05:44] <fredforfaen> what to do?
[05:44] <xxvii> thrice`: right.. it's just a text document that tells the burning software where to split tracks from one huge file
[05:44] <fletch33> Cole,  k did that
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, java -version ... what did you get ?
[05:44] <thunderbolt> your JAVAPATH and PATH?
[05:44] <Cole> fletch33: "sudo chgrp -R root /usr/NX"
[05:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie look for a line that says AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[05:44] <xxvii> thrice`: is there a certain way to burn .cue files?
[05:44] <fletch33> Cole, y
[05:44] <thrice`> xxvii, what are you using to burn?
[05:44] <ubuntu43e> I used the wiki unbuntu guide and got the versions it told me to get there
[05:44] <fletch33> Cole,  no not that 1 sec
[05:45] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : grep pawan /etc/group | grep ^admin      gives: admin:x:109:pawan
[05:45] <xxvii> thrice`: i've tried k3b (didn't work) and GNOMEbaker
[05:45] <ubuntu43e> which is 1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin
[05:45] <fletch33> Cole,  k done
[05:45] <xxvii> thrice`: neither worked.. both gave me errors
[05:45] <bob_4_a_day> pawan what i'm saying is move that line up a few notches and it should work.
[05:45] <ubuntu43e> and also the sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[05:45] <varsendagger> any one use enlightenment, is it cool?
[05:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, your file should be in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[05:45] <thrice`> xxvii, and you're *certain* the image is good...?
[05:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> or similar
[05:46] <ubuntu43e> i installed everything and it doesnt work
[05:46] <bob_4_a_day> pawan some place above that line 'admin:x:109:pawan'
[05:46] <ubuntu43e> no java game will work
[05:46] <Cole> fletch33: "ls -l /usr" and then "ls -l /usr/NX" and then "ls -l /usr/NX/bin" and paste then to the pastebin
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, java -version ... does that return you the version you installed ?
[05:46] <fletch33> Cole,  1 sec
[05:46] <Madpilot> cool - running "shred" then reformatting a 20Gb drive gets the poor old thing fairly warm... ;)
[05:46] <ubuntu43e> where do i need to type that at in terminal?
[05:46] <Cole> fletch33: np
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, yes ... terminal
[05:46] <cowbud> anyone have issues iwth the ubuntu ppc install failing at the timezone config?
[05:46] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[05:47] <xxvii> thrice`: i've hundreds of CDs using .cue files (on Windows).. i've made my own cue files.. i can't find anything wrong with them.. this is my first attempt at trying to burn from cue file on Linux though
[05:47] <bob_4_a_day> cole could it be that /usr is x00 perm ?
[05:47] <thrice`> xxvii, did you try the bin file ?
[05:47] <ubuntu43e> what directory do i need to be in ?
[05:47] <Cole> bob_4_a_day: i think we sorted it out.. gonna have him launch the app after i just verify the changed perms
[05:47] <ubuntu43e> to run that command
[05:47] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, anywhere ... just type that pls
[05:47] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: im sorry, i had to step away from the computer.  i dont believe apache2.conf is loading the module but i dont know how to tell it to do so.
[05:47] <ubuntu43e> i ran it in the firefox plugin directory
[05:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie look for a line that says AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> and it says javaclass not found
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> and i just installed and ran it there
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> I got no errors when i did it
[05:48] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: oh, actually that is there, i uncommented it then i did an /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then a start but it didn't seem to fix the problem
[05:48] <xxvii> thrice`: i don't have a bin file for these mixes.. i downloaded mixes off of generationtrance.com (completely free) and they only come with cue files.. is there a way to make a bin file? i've never done it
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> i went by this guide   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, pls lets take it from step 1 ... first .. you installed java .. how ? which java ?
[05:49] <ubuntu43e> I followed this guide  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30501
[05:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, you need it there, ok if it is there uncomment it
[05:49] <Cole> xxvii: the bin file has all the data in it.. the cue file is just a how to burn file.
[05:49] <ubuntu43e> I downloaded both packages on the desktop
[05:49] <Cole> fletch33: next time a lower case L is in order.. but since youc an see it.. it must have worked..
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 <--- this line ?
[05:50] <Cole> fletch33: now try trying "/usr/NX/bin/nxclient"
[05:50] <R0bNyc> why we only have 2.6.12 kernel?
[05:50] <ubuntu43e> I didnt do that
[05:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie do you have apache loading the module?
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, ... then what did you do ?
[05:50] <ubuntu43e> and its not that version of java this is a old version
[05:50] <fletch33> Cole,  k
[05:50] <xxvii> Cole: ok.. well, these mixes don't come in any type of archived file format. they come seperately as .mp3 and .cue..
[05:50] <gnesis> how can i installa flash player 7 on ubuntu???
[05:50] <ubuntu43e> I did what the guide told me to do
[05:50] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i thought uncommenting that would load the module?  If not then i don't know how to make it load the module
[05:51] <gnesis> how can i install flash player 7 on ubuntu???
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> first  chmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, which part of the guide ... pls be more specific ...
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> sun java part
[05:51] <fletch33> Cole,  i cant thank u enough it is working
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> k
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> then udo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common
[05:51] <Cole> xxvii: ahh ok..  you can just try to use serpentine audio cd  creator with the mp3s?
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> then  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[05:51] <Cole> fletch33: np goodluck with that
[05:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie depending on the version it might be loading by default
[05:51] <fletch33> Cole, i hope i can soon help others now i just have to figure otu how to use it
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, no errors for all those ?
[05:51] <xxvii> Cole: ok, i'll give it a shot
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> none
[05:51] <pawan> bob, I'm going to #paste to paste my sudoers file there. It'd be nice if you looked at it
[05:52] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i went into the directoy called "mods-enabled" and i saw a php4.conf and a php4.load
[05:52] <thrice`> pawan, pastebin it
[05:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, ok good
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:52] <drcode> any one mybe have idea why my static route dissaper
[05:52] <drcode> I did route add
[05:52] <Cole> xxvii: only thing is i don't recall if mp3 support is built in as it is a restricted format. so unless you have already installed those libraries.. i dont' think it will work
[05:52] <S_Hunter> Q: what is the minimum specs to run Ubuntu?
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> I only got 2 options to choose from
[05:52] <drcode> and after 10 min it boom dissaper
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> and choose the 2
[05:52] <pawan> !ubotu pastebin?
[05:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:52] <Cole> xxvii: i just don't know.. i haven't tried it myself
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> then sudo mkdir -p /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[05:53] <xxvii> Cole: ok, i'll see what happens.. thanks
[05:53] <drcode> no reset or somthing
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> then cd /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> and that was it
[05:53] <mac0sxus3r> guys I really need help with Synaptic, whenever I try to install/upgrade/remove something it wants me to remove the rest of my apps!
[05:53] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: there is a line in the php4.load that says "LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so"
[05:53] <fletch33> Cole,  1 more ? wil i always have to type a command line to start it or will i be able to make it an option somewhere like in apps
[05:53] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, don't paste the whole tutorial here please...we know where it is
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, type ... whereis java
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> ok
[05:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie does restarting apache give you any errors? like can't find module?
[05:54] <Cole> fletch33: click "applications" "system tools"  "applications menu edditor"
[05:54] <ubuntu43e> java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[05:54] <ubuntu43e> ubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$
[05:54] <ubuntu43e> thats what i got
[05:54] <Cole> fletch33 and a program shoudl start
[05:54] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: nope. if i type /etc/init.d/apache2 start i dont get anything.  but if i go to the deafult index.html its loaded
[05:54] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: and if i do a stop it stops without a problem
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, /usr/bin/java -version ... what did you get ?
[05:54] <pawan> ok, pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899
[05:55] <fletch33> Cole, thanks
[05:55] <xxvii> Cole: that's not going to work.. it doesn't have any support for .cue files, and there's no way to split up the tracks manually :\
[05:55] <mac0sxus3r> can someone please help me with Synaptic, whenever I try to install/upgrade/remove something it wants me to remove the rest of my apps!
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> i got java version "1.4.2"
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> ubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$
[05:55] <Cole> xxvii: oh its not a bunch of seperate mp3s?
[05:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie is your will phpinfo(); work
[05:55] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, again, dont' paste those things in here
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> something is not right there
[05:55] <thrice`> !paste
[05:55] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, pls don't paste here ... if more than a couple of lines
[05:56] <Cole> fletch33: when you create a new entry  the command line would be /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[05:56] <S_Hunter> I have a Notebook.  600mhz 64mb ram.  What OS should I run?
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> it know it would be that much
[05:56] <bob_4_a_day> fletch33 anything that can be ran from the command line can be set up to start as any other app.  some times it takes making a script but it can be done.
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> didnt know
[05:56] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i tried creating a page that was just phpinfo(); and my browser attempts to download it as well instead of dispalying it
[05:56] <kevogod> Is there a way to have Azureus and Eclipse installed without conflict?
[05:56] <Cole> fletch33: and the name would be whatever you want to call it
[05:56] <xxvii> Cole: nope.. just one 74 minute .mp3.. that's what i need the .cue file for
[05:56] <thrice`> ok, so you do have java installed
[05:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie stupid question,
[05:56] <thrice`> have you restarted firefox?
[05:56] <Cole> xxvii: can you pastebin what is in the .cue file?
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> i closed all firefox windows
[05:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, is it a .php file? I know I know
[05:56] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: yes it is :-\
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> do i need to do something else
[05:57] <fletch33> Cole,  ok trying that thanks
[05:57] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, you made the symlink, right?
[05:57] <xxvii> Cole: sure, never used pastebin before.. what do i do?
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, its most likely /usr/bin is not in your path ...
[05:57] <ubuntu43e> im not sure
[05:57] <Astxist> my update manager seems to have stalled can anyone help me?
[05:57] <kevogod> Azureus wants libswt-gtk-3.1-java and libswt-gtk-3.1-jni but Eclipse wants conflicting libswt3.1-gtk-java and libswt3.1-gtk-jni.
[05:57] <thrice`> the ln -s deal
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> add it .. and you be fine .. and your /etc/alternatives is pointing to wrong java
[05:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie dont be offended, I had to ask
[05:57] <mac0sxus3r> AstxistL likewise man
[05:57] <ubuntu43e> oh i need to run that command in user bin
[05:57] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: hehe i'm not.  i think maybe apache2 isn't actually stopping when i stop it.
[05:58] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm intesting ..... [alt] +[print-screen] +b    very interesting indeed......
[05:58] <thrice`> check in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ to see if you "libjava" exists
[05:58] <mac0sxus3r> Astxist: how's it stalled?
[05:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie ok how about a file interpretation line in your apache.conf?
[05:58] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjava*
[05:58] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i have an entry in /etc/mime.types
[05:58] <Ep|phany> what codec do i need to watch a streaming video file more specifically a .asx?
[05:58] <Cole> xxvii: just post the text in the box on the page http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and click send. and then give me the url it sends you 2.. but to open the cue file you can open it in any text editor.. let me know if you need help with that
[05:58] <Astxist> ops
[05:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie something that begins like <File *.php> or the like?
[05:58] <Astxist> ctrl-c does not copy text
[05:58] <Astxist> damn it
[05:59] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i will check hold on
[05:59] <ubuntu43e> #flood  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 63 2005-11-23 04:24 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:59] <bob_4_a_day> Astxist highlight it and point the mouse and dubble/or middle click
[05:59] <ubuntu43e> ubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$
[05:59] <xxvii> Cole: nope, i got it.. i've made cue files for DJs' mixes.. k, i'll post that right now
[05:59] <Astxist> bob_4_a_day, I canceled it :/
[05:59] <ubuntu43e> I got that above
[06:00] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: is it possible that maye i have apache1.4 and apache2 installed?  i'm trying to get mythweb to work.  i just did a stop on /etc/init.d/apache2 and /etc/init.d/apache.  i confirmed the web server is down.  then i did /etc/init.d/apache2 start.  it doesn't give any info back and i can't connect to the webserver
[06:00] <bob_4_a_day> yeah Astxist just telling you how you can copy & paste without keys.
[06:00] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, hrm...killall -9 firefox-bin   to make sure all firefox is done (make sure you're not doing naythign important before running :) )
[06:00] <Astxist> bob_4_a_day, k
[06:01] <ubuntu43e> ok i did that
[06:01] <freakman> I think there's something from with my computer
[06:01] <freakman> something wrong*
[06:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie do a "locate apachectl" or try apachectl restart from a cli
[06:01] <freakman> is it bad if it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu when you're starting up?
[06:01] <freakman> and I'm using ubuntu?
[06:01] <keyfitter> no
[06:01] <freakman> keyfitter: why is it doing that?
[06:02] <freakman> I want it to say ubuntu :-(
[06:02] <bob_4_a_day> freakman did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:02] <keyfitter> you must be using kdm instead of gdm
[06:02] <freakman> yeah
[06:02] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: the weird thing is, when the download starts it says "you have choesn to open index.php which is a application/x-httpd-php"
[06:02] <bob_4_a_day> freakman that's why
[06:02] <ubuntu43e> I keep getting exception noclass deffound error when trying to play a java based game?
[06:02] <Ep|phany> anyone know what media player plays .asx
[06:02] <ubuntu43e> It still doesnt work
[06:02] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, in about:plugins do you see java listed?
[06:02] <freakman> bob_4_a_day: but it wasn't doing that before
[06:03] <freakman> keyfitter: and I thought I installed gdm
[06:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie that is weird...have you tried google on that one?
[06:03] <freakman> er
[06:03] <freakman> using*
[06:03] <sethk> ubuntu43e, that is probably a CLASSPATH problem
[06:03] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: yeah google has been no help so far :-\
[06:03] <bob_4_a_day> before you installed kubuntu-desktop freakman ?
[06:03] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: is there a way to make sure i dont have two apaches installed? like searching apt-get for all installed apache versions?
[06:03] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, sorry, i'm out of ideas otherwise; the symlink was ran correctly, so firefox SHOULD be picking it up
[06:03] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, try another java game...
[06:03] <xxvii> Cole: did you get that msg?
[06:03] <l0cke> I am trying to find a file on my desktop through terminal. When I type dir it says desktop but when I do cd desktop it says not found. is cd even the right command?
[06:04] <sethk> ubuntu43e, do a find (or locate, if your database is up to date) for .jar files.  see if you have .jar files that are in directories that are not in yhour classpath
[06:04] <ubuntu43e> ok I will try another
[06:04] <keyfitter> freakman: if you installed kubuntu it will go with the kdm
[06:04] <thrice`> keyfitter, it should ask you which you prefer actually...
[06:04] <freakman> yeah...
[06:04] <freakman> but...
[06:04] <freakman> it wasn't saying kubuntu before...
[06:04] <freakman> and I had kubuntu-desktop installed
[06:04] <freakman> hm
[06:04] <bob_4_a_day> ubuntu-desktop is gnome kubuntu-desktop is kde xubuntu-desktop is xfce4 i think  but they are all just plain ole ubuntu.
[06:04] <aspro> l0cke: try using cd de-<tab> (autocomplete)
[06:04] <freakman> it must do with the updates I just installed
[06:04] <ubuntu43e> im running 5.10 unbuntu
[06:05] <versipolis> somone give my a hint why game performace might be so bad? I have an intel 852 chipset that seems to be setup ok but even the 2d side scrollers are unplayable..
[06:05] <freakman> bob_4_a_day: but I want it to say ubuntu :-(
[06:05] <Cole> xxvii: yes i did sorry. i don't know of a program that can handle that..
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> sigh .... ubuntu43e can you try this ... export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin ... then type java -version
[06:05] <freakman> not kubuntu :-(
[06:05] <freakman> maybe..
[06:05] <Cole> xxvii: i'm not saying there isn't.. i just never tried to use a cue file like that myself
[06:05] <freakman> I should switch desktop managers?
[06:06] <thrice`> wickedpuppy, that shouldn't be necessary..../usr/bin is undoubtaly in his path if he can run firefox
[06:06] <Pablo_C> for some reason my laptop is shutting down about once a day... just randomly... anyone got any suggestions on how to troubleshoot it... I am a n00b to ubuntu
[06:06] <freakman> bob_4_a_day: should I switch desktop managers?
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie sorry, was afk a sec
[06:06] <ubuntu43e> it says its free software
[06:06] <Ueuecoyotl> Check ouy number 2 at http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=46 it says "where X = input device number", but which number above that text is the input device number?
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie yeah, you can do that
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> apt-get install apt-show-versions
[06:06] <sethk> freakman, you can try it.  if you don't like, switch back.
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> thrice`, but java isn't ... i am wondering why
[06:06] <xxvii> Cole: really? k3b and gnomebaker both recognize cue files.. are there different types of cue files?
[06:06] <bob_4_a_day> freakman look in /etc/*release*  /etc/*issue*    and call it what ever you want.
[06:06] <ubuntu43e> copyright 2005 free software foundation
[06:07] <ubuntu43e> that is what i get
[06:07] <ubuntu43e> that isnt right
[06:07] <freakman> sethk: how do I switch? :-D
[06:07] <ubuntu43e> i dont think
[06:07] <Cole> xxvii: uhh i dunno.. ive just never done that. i've jsut always used standard bin/cue fiels.. so i dont' know what k3b / gnomebaker will do
[06:07] <sethk> freakman, if you install kdm, synaptic will ask you if you want to switch
[06:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie then do an apt-show-versions | grep apache
[06:07] <l0cke> I get a syntax error near unexpected token `newline' when I try cd cd-<tab>
[06:07] <sethk> freakman, I don't remember what it actually does  :)
[06:07] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: yeah i just did that and look at this
[06:07] <subbie> apache/unknown uptodate 1.3.33-8
[06:07] <subbie> apache2-common/unknown uptodate 2.0.54-5ubuntu2
[06:07] <xxvii> Cole: otherwise, do you know of a way that i can split up a 70+ minute long .mp3 file into seperate tracks?
[06:07] <freakman> I don't get it though
[06:07] <freakman> I'm using gdm
[06:08] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: that could defintley be part of the problem i'd say :)
[06:08] <Ep|phany> anyone know how to add the marillat repository?
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie yepper
[06:08] <freakman> but it says kubuntu in the beginning :-\
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie remove the 1.3
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> heheh
[06:08] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: so can i apt-get remove apache ? that would uninstall it correct?
[06:08] <xxvii> Cole: thanks for lookin into this btw
[06:08] <aspro> l0cke: I mean start typing desktop, but before you finish hit tab
[06:08] <ubuntu43e> Is there another distro that has java support built in?
[06:08] <aspro> it should autocomplete the name
[06:08] <sethk> l0cke, you've created an executable file in your path that begins with cd and has a newline embedded in the name
[06:08] <Pablo_C> for some reason my laptop is shutting down about once a day... just randomly... anyone got any suggestions on how to troubleshoot it... I am a n00b to ubuntu
[06:08] <ubuntu43e> unbuntu has too many issues
[06:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie no you need to remove by version
[06:09] <Pablo_C> it was fine for about the first month
[06:09] <Cole> xxvii: hmmm.. no i dont.. i'm actually not much of an audiophile.. i listen to my music but thats about it
[06:09] <sethk> Pablo_C, step 1 is to see if anything is written into the logs.  start in /var/log/messages
[06:09] <l0cke> it just beeps
[06:09] <Pablo_C> ok I will check
[06:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie uh, yes, it should work...disregard the last post
[06:09] <Pablo_C> thanks sethk
[06:09] <Cole> xxvii: sorry i coudlnt' have been more of a help
[06:09] <sethk> ubuntu43e, if you can't make it go on ubuntu, you aren't going to get anywhere with any of the other distros either
[06:09] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: ok well i managed tog et apache 1.3 removed, but now apache 2 seems totally unresponsive when i try to start it :-\
[06:09] <aspro> wrong spelling then, try capitalising if you arent
[06:09] <xxvii> Cole: right on, i'll ask on the generationtrance forum.. i'm sure at least one person on there uses Linux.
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie how so?
[06:10] <sethk> ubuntu43e, also ignoring people when they tell you what is wrong is not a great way to fix a problem.  :)
[06:10] <g00r0n> if i use synaptics to install KDE (even though i'm using std. WM - gnome) will i have a choice upon boot to choose kde or gnome?  will installing kde mess anything up in gnome?
[06:10] <ubuntu43e> i dont understand why something so simple as enabling java pluging support for firefox is hard
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, you'll get the same login screen
[06:10] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: oh! i did /usr/sbin/apache2 and the server started fine!!!  when i tried /etc/init.d/apache2 start it didn't do anything
[06:10] <l0cke> i still get cd: DESKTOP: No such file or directory
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie no news is good news...is it serving anyway?
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, when you click on session, KDE will be there
[06:10] <xxvii> Cole: no man, you've been a huge help, you've saved me the trouble of wasting hours upon hours of not getting this stuff to work. haha
[06:10] <ubuntu43e> I am not ignoring anyone
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, it won't be your default session
[06:10] <sethk> ubuntu43e, I told you more than once about your classpath problem
[06:10] <Cole> xxvii: lol ok. you could always try burning it to a cd with gnomebaker/k3b and then rip it back off
[06:10] <aspro> is the folder called 'Desktop' linux is case sensitvie
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, so nothing nasty is going to happen just by installing kde
[06:11] <ubuntu43e> yea but i have no idea in hell how to fix that
[06:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie kill the sbin process and try it again from init
[06:11] <sethk> g00r0n, you will (if you install all of it) get a question about whether to use gdm or kdm.  say gdm
[06:11] <pawan_> my sudoers file is in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899  - the only change I have made from the default for the machine kewl is to add the line: pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap
[06:11] <aspro> l0cke: no colon after cd
[06:11] <l0cke> yeah forgot the capital D
[06:11] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: allthough it will display my index.php which is just phpinfo(); but when i try to go to /mythweb i still get the bizzare trying to download php pages problem
[06:11] <l0cke> doh!
[06:11] <sethk> ubuntu43e, if that is what's wrong, you can't fix it any other way.
[06:11] <l0cke> it works now
[06:11] <aspro> lol
[06:11] <pawan_> but sudo nmap kewl doesn't run.
[06:11] <pawan_> clues?
[06:11] <ubuntu43e> im trying to learn linux so i can install it on some other users computers who keep getting viruses on their window machines
[06:11] <aspro> :)
[06:12] <xxvii> Cole: maybe.. is there any audio software that you think might be able to crop or trim time off of a larger mp3 file?
[06:12] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i did killall apache2 =X
[06:12] <ubuntu43e> sethk what would cause this?
[06:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie did you set your permissions in apache.conf file to allow that folder to run apps?
[06:12] <ubuntu43e> I have did nothing
[06:12] <Astxist> well it all seems fine used sudo apt-get upgrade and the package installed this time
[06:12] <freakman> didn't Hobbsee say that basket was a package on universe?
[06:12] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: no probably not since i haven't a clue how to do that :)
[06:12] <sethk> ubuntu43e, it's a common problem with java, not on linux particularly but also on windows and mac
[06:12] <Cole> xxvii: i'm checking in synaptic
[06:12] <Astxist> had to recompile/reinstall my modem drivers though
[06:12] <Pablo_C> sethk,  what exactly am I lookin for in the messages?
[06:12] <sethk> ubuntu43e, what I would do is copy whatever jar files you have into a directory that is definitely in your classpath
[06:12] <ubuntu43e> I have never had any problems with java on any windows version i have had
[06:12] <xxvii> Cole: oh, don't worry about it.. i'll do that. thanks man
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> and i been using it since 1997
[06:13] <pawan_> actually , sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the sudoers file.
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> on the internet
[06:13] <Cole> xxvii: i don't see one..
[06:13] <xxvii> Cole: i was just wondering if you knew of anything off the top of your head
[06:13] <zoexii> hey, I am having trouble logging in, none of my desktop enviornments want to work.  I get an error with IceTransmkdir.  What can I do?
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> not one class problem
[06:13] <sethk> ubuntu43e, such as where the main java jar files are installed.  If you look at the details in synaptic (which you can see for something you are installing or have already installed) look at the file list for the java VM and see where .jar files are installed
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> I have been doing this since 1997
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> I build my own computers
[06:13] <Cole> xxvii: freshmeat.net is also your friend when looking for programs.. but they typically aren't packaged quite as nicely
[06:13] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe i've never had any problem with jave either.... i always remove the default install of java, and hmmm no problem   :)
[06:14] <sethk> Pablo_C, since your problem is so undefined, it's really hard to say.  just look for errors.  normally there shouldn't be errors in the logs
[06:14] <xxvii> Cole: alright, i'll check that out, thanks man
[06:14] <ubuntu43e> ok I will take a look sethk
[06:14] <Cole> xxvii: np gl
[06:14] <sethk> ubuntu43e, this is a software configuration problem that has to do only with java
[06:14] <Pablo_C> sethk, can I show you a pastebin?
[06:14] <ubuntu43e> what are the files installed in the wrong place?
[06:14] <sethk> ubuntu43e, you could know everything in the universe about computers except java, and have no idea what to do  :)
[06:14] <Mandy> Join ##apple
[06:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie sorry, the wife is telling me it is late, and we have a trip tomorrow. I think if you set the permissions in apache.conf and allow the apache user access to execute in the folder it should work
[06:14] <Cole> xxvii: err there is a package called mp3splt in synaptic.. that is a command line program.. but it might work
[06:14] <sethk> ubuntu43e, usually they are .jar files
[06:14] <ubuntu43e> I understand that
[06:15] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: ill try to figure it out, thanks :)
[06:15] <sethk> ubuntu43e, I just mean I'm not trying to be insulting or anything
[06:15] <xxvii> Cole: cool, i'll check it out
[06:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, sorry
[06:15] <sethk> Pablo_C, sure, I'll take a look
[06:15] <Cole> xxvii: its in universe.. not sure if you have taht enabled
[06:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie oops ...your welcome for what it was worth
[06:15] <sethk> Pablo_C, there is no guarantee that anything is logged, but it's possible so you look
[06:15] <robotgeek> ubuntu43e: java -jar file.jar
[06:15] <sethk> ubuntu43e, java is its own little world
[06:15] <xxvii> Cole: yea i have universe
[06:16] <Cole> xxvii: there is also one for wrapping multiple mp3's together.. just search on mp3.. and you will see some apps that might help
[06:16] <thrice`> robotgeek, he's concerned with it's integration into firefox...I think java is not the problem, but with firefox recognizing it
[06:16] <sethk> robotgeek, good idea, I forgot about that
[06:16] <l0cke> ./toolchain.sh: line 73: gmake: command not found
[06:16] <l0cke> ./toolchain.sh: line 85: gpatch: command not found
[06:16] <l0cke> ./toolchain.sh: line 105: svn: command not found
[06:16] <l0cke> ERROR: Please make sure you have 'subversion (svn)' installed.
[06:16] <xxvii> Cole: k
[06:16] <l0cke> how do I get rid of that error
[06:16] <robotgeek> thrice`: are you on x86
[06:16] <robotgeek> l0cke: sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:16] <xxvii> Cole: thanks again for the help.. i gotta get goin.. later man
[06:16] <thrice`> robotgeek, yes, but not on my linux box
[06:16] <ubuntu43e> I have been using linux for like only 1 hour
[06:16] <sethk> l0cke, subversion is a source code versioning system that is meant as a replacement and improvement to CVS
[06:16] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, fun eh :)
[06:16] <l0cke> okay
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> it sucks
[06:17] <sethk> l0cke, it looks like you should install subversion, although  I don't know whether that makes sense because I don't know what's wrong
[06:17] <sethk> l0cke, I can't read fast enough  :)
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> there is no way i can install this on other peoples machines
[06:17] <l0cke> yeah, that's what i thought too
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> I would get killed
[06:17] <versipolis> anything I can do to optimize game performance? games are unplayable. default xorg.conf is setup with i810 driver for my 852gm chipset. am i missing something?
[06:17] <sethk> ubuntu43e, you would have to really understand exactly what is going on, which would certainly take a lot of time.  It's not impossible, but it would be tedious to say the least
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> it makes the most simple tasks very hard to work
[06:18] <l0cke> huh
[06:18] <l0cke> *sigh*
[06:18] <sethk> ubuntu43e, java, you mean?  yes, lot's of people agree with you about that
[06:18] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, just wait...you're still new; this stuff comes second nature after awhile
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> i mean linux
[06:18] <thrice`> java is a pain though, yes
[06:18] <robotgeek> ubuntu43e: sorry, but i dunno what you are trying to do
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> i dont know either
[06:18] <sethk> ubuntu43e, linux is actually much easier than the alternatives
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> like bsd
[06:18] <l0cke> yeah, atleast it's not windows
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> i bet so
[06:19] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, it's not hard, it's new...just give it a little time
[06:19] <ubuntu43e> I almost ready to kiss bills ass now
[06:19] <sethk> ubuntu43e, if you build the hardware, you can certainly learn the software.  It's not hard, just very arbitrary and capricious
[06:19] <ubuntu43e> i overclock alot
[06:20] <sethk> ubuntu43e, well, that would be dumb, as his o/s is much much worse.  it's built on top of VMS
[06:20] <ubuntu43e> this machine is a 4gig p4
[06:20] <ubuntu43e> 4ghz p4
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, after i learn how to drive honda can i drive f1 without learning anything extra ? after all they are both cars ...
[06:20] <sethk> wickedpuppy, not my F1  :)
[06:20] <pawan_> sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the (until-then) sudoers file right after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL    line. clues?
[06:20] <JRlinux> I want to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file, but I keep being asked for a password.   How can I do this?
[06:20] <sethk> wickedpuppy, if I had an F1, that is ...
[06:20] <ubuntu43e> i dont know what to look for in the package manager?
[06:20] <versipolis> JRlinux, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:21] <sethk> pawan_, pawan and kewl can execute nmap without providing a password
[06:21] <versipolis> JRlinux, user your password
[06:21] <ubuntu43e> im searching java
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> my point is knowing how to drive honda doesn't mean you can race in BARHonda Team
[06:21] <ubuntu43e> but i get alot of results
[06:21] <bob_4_a_day> sure.    go fast, turn left.   no problem.
[06:21] <JRlinux> versipolis, I thought I tried that, but I will go again.  Thanks.
[06:21] <l0cke> don't crash
[06:21] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, there is some thing called a clutch, or something
[06:21] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, I think you have to step on it occasionally
[06:21] <pawan_> sethk : whoa. kewl is the name of my box.
[06:21] <bob_4_a_day> oh yeah that is in most hondas too
[06:22] <bob_4_a_day> and a break
[06:22] <l0cke> also, i heard of something called a brake, but they don't use it much
[06:22] <sethk> pawan_, hey, I didn't put the line in there.  :)
[06:22] <Pablo_C> sethk, http://pastebin.ca/30505 will you please take a look and see if you see anything out of order??
[06:22] <sethk> Pablo_C, sure, hold on.
[06:22] <Badm4n> evening alllllllllllllllllllllll ( GMT +7 indonesia Time WIB )
[06:23] <zoexii> can I get some help please?  I cannot start an xsession.  my ~/.xsession-errors file lists a bunch of gunk about IceTrans.  What is IceTrans and how do I make it work again?
[06:23] <ubuntu43e> I dont see anything i package manager
[06:23] <nalioth> zoexii: in a terminal, type "rm ~/.ICEauthority"
[06:23] <ubuntu43e> I thought a debian based distro was supposed to get rid of these problems
[06:24] <bob_4_a_day> zoexii what did you do before it quit working ?
[06:24] <pawan_> sethk: um. I must be rtfm-ing wrong. Let me check.
[06:24] <zoexii> nalioth, cool, will try.
[06:24] <sethk> pawan_, I might be wrong also
[06:24] <nalioth> zoexii: use a failsafe terminal
[06:24] <Pablo_C> ok thanks sethk
[06:24] <ubuntu43e> I guess most people just dont run anything java based
[06:24] <sethk> Pablo_C, I don't see anything terribly unusual there.
[06:24] <Pablo_C> yep... I dont either
[06:24] <sethk> ubuntu43e, it isn't java, it's java in the browser, that is the problem
[06:24] <Pablo_C> :\
[06:24] <sethk> Pablo_C, any clues at all?
[06:25] <Pablo_C> not at all
[06:25] <ubuntu43e> i cant even find sun java on this computer
[06:25] <ubuntu43e> after i installed it
[06:25] <sethk> Pablo_C, it could well be hardware.  a memory problem can do that.
[06:25] <Pablo_C> I recompiled my madwifi drivers though it might be that
[06:25] <ubuntu43e> for all I know it might not even be installed
[06:25] <pawan_> sethk : looks like it. I get syntax errors if I remove kewl. I need to keep kewl ;-)
[06:25] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, java --version works right?
[06:25] <sethk> ubuntu43e, look for the java virtual machine, which is a file named java.  Not all that hard to find
[06:25] <thrice`> if so, then it's installed
[06:25] <sethk> pawan_, then I'm probably wrong about the syntax
[06:26] <sethk> pawan_, it may just mean pawan on kewl, no password to run ntp
[06:26] <ubuntu43e> I see jamve is that it
[06:26] <sethk> pawan_, which wouldn't be a terribly strange thing to be in the file
[06:26] <ubuntu43e> I do a search for java on synaptic
[06:26] <zoexii> nalioth, right on, it works... thanks.  how does this sort of thing break in the first place?
[06:26] <ubuntu43e> and get alot of results
[06:27] <ubuntu43e> I see nothing named plain java
[06:27] <Pablo_C> ubuntu43e, try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:27] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ubuntu43e about java
[06:27] <ubuntu43e> will do
[06:27] <pawan_> sethk: yup. and it doesn't work. It prompts me for a password. This is a default sudoers file as far as I can see.
[06:27] <Pablo_C> that is what I had to do to sort a java problem I had
[06:27] <nalioth_zZz> zoexii: you (or someone) opened nautilus with superuser privelges
[06:27] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ still errors with your sudoers ?
[06:27] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yup. pasted it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899
[06:27] <thrice`> robotgeek, he's been through it
[06:28] <zoexii> I see.
[06:28] <sethk> see if there are any processes running that have the sudoers file open.  they may be using a cached version and not see updates immediately
[06:28] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : just keeps prompting for a password
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> I get 2 versions when I run that command
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:28] <pawan_> do I need to relogin or something for sudo to work?
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> is that right?
[06:29] <robotgeek> ubuntu43e: use the link to install sun java
[06:30] <Pablo_C> ubuntu43e, you do not have sun java installed
[06:30] <ubuntu43e> I went thru the guide  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:31] <ubuntu43e> no errors
[06:31] <ubuntu43e> So I should see 3 options if it was installed?
[06:31] <Pablo_C>   Selection    Alternative
[06:31] <Pablo_C> -----------------------------------------------
[06:31] <Pablo_C>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:31] <Pablo_C>  +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:31] <Pablo_C> *     3        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> thanks pablo
[06:32] <Pablo_C> sure
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> mine isnt even installed
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> I dont understand why As i went thru the guide
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> and got no errors
[06:33] <JRlinux> versipolis, it worked, and my Debian installation is back.  Thanks.
[06:33] <ubuntu43e> I followed all the steps
[06:33] <Chousuke> ubuntu43e: did you install the .deb you got?
[06:34] <Chousuke> (I assume the guide used make-jpkg)
[06:34] <ubuntu43e> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[06:34] <ubuntu43e> i did that
[06:34] <Chousuke> hmm
[06:34] <coz> hello all
[06:34] <ubuntu43e> should I have done something else
[06:35] <Chousuke> doesn't it create other debs too?
[06:35] <coz>  I don't know why I can't keep this in min but how do you install a .deb package again?
[06:35] <Chousuke> like java-common or something.
[06:35] <Chousuke> coz: dpkg -i
[06:35] <coz> dahhh
[06:35] <coz> thanks
[06:35] <sethk> ubuntu43e, no, that looks ok.  why not search for sun-j2re in synaptic, and see what happens when synaptic tries to install it
[06:35] <sethk> ubuntu43e, you see, you actually do know what to search for
[06:36] <ubuntu43e> ok
[06:37] <ubuntu43e> didnt find anything
[06:37] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ you got it yet ?
[06:37] <sethk> ubuntu43e, hmm.  j2re means java version 2 runtime environment
[06:37] <sethk> ubuntu43e, and 1.5.1 is the version
[06:38] <pawan_> got what
[06:38] <Ep|phany> anyone know how i can add the marillat repository ?
[06:38] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ you try  'pawan   kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap'   that should the syntax error and parse problem
[06:39] <ubuntu43e> i searched that also didnt find anything
[06:39] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ let me know if it doesn't work.... k
[06:41] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : still prompting
[06:41] <bob_4_a_day> hmm that is odd
[06:42] <bob_4_a_day> when you type hostname it does say kewl doesnt it
[06:42] <bob_4_a_day> maybe try localhost
[06:42] <pawan_> I have no syntax error with pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap    btw
[06:43] <bob_4_a_day> localhost should always be localhost.
[06:43] <bob_4_a_day> k but it is prompting for passwd ?
[06:43] <pawan_> I did the pawan   kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap      line, but am unsure what it does.
[06:44] <pawan_> hostname gives kewl. Lemme try localhost and localhost.localdomain too.
[06:44] <bob_4_a_day> yeah
[06:44] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : prompts for password with kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap    , yes.
[06:44] <ubuntu43e> i might have it
[06:45] <Orborde> What's the command line name of the Gnome volume adjusting applet?
[06:46] <yi> gnome-volume-properties
[06:46] <bob_4_a_day> gno[tab]  and see what comes up.
[06:46] <Orborde> bob_4_a_day: About 23472346784263873642873 things, sadly.
[06:46] <Orborde> yi: Thanks.
[06:47] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe sounds right....
[06:47] <Orborde> yi: Sorry, that's not what I meant. :) . I meant the SOUND volume control.
[06:48] <bnD> can someone help me out?
[06:48] <thrice`> bnD, nope, sorry
[06:48] <bnD> i am attempting to burn mp3s to audio cd with gnome baker 'plugin for mp3 is installed'
[06:48] <bnD> heh @ thrice`
[06:48] <thrice`> :)
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> to exit type /exit  or /quit buddy
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> err bnD
[06:48] <bnD> bob2, i dont know what plugin i need
[06:49] <l0cke> does anyone know if linux will reconize a psp?
[06:49] <bnD> bob_4_a_day, i mean, sorry
[06:49] <bob_4_a_day> i did that too bnD :)
[06:49] <bob_4_a_day> !mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <pawan_> arrrgh! I hate linux! It doesn't work! I'm going back to windows! NOW!
[06:49] <bnD> ah, thanks ;)
[06:49] <bnD> pawan_, EW
[06:49] <bnD> only problem
[06:49] <Amaranth> ubotu: no, mp3 is <reply> to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <ubotu> Amaranth: okay
[06:49] <bnD> i cant access www right now
[06:50] <bnD> damnation
[06:50] <bnD> no pkg from synaptic?
[06:50] <l0cke> hm....linux doesn't reconize my psp :(
[06:50] <yi> Orborde: oh, gnome-volume-control
[06:50] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ localhost didn't work either ehh ?
[06:50] <holycow> pawan_, rofl
[06:50] <holycow> :)
[06:50] <APACHE^_^> hola
[06:50] <ubuntu43e> ok i got java installed now!
[06:50] <c0rrupt> hello, how can i remove xorg from running everytime i boot- to just have a console login?
[06:51] <ubuntu43e> i did all of those steps for nothing!
[06:51] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, !!!!!!1
[06:51] <thrice`> nice work
[06:51] <holycow> pawan_, congrats you just figured out the best way to get help ina linux channel
[06:51] <holycow> hehe
[06:51] <Razor-X> l0cke: I wouldn't doubt that for a minute
[06:51] <holycow> pawan_, so whats the deal?
[06:51] <ubuntu43e> all I had to do was this 1 command
[06:51] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : nope. beats me. I'll check the setup on my debian box and see what works.
[06:51] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, which command?
[06:51] <bob_4_a_day> c0rrupt remove the symlink to gdm in /etc/rc2.d/
[06:51] <Razor-X> Sony is so wrapped up in proprietary heaven that they'ld rather die than make their protocol generic
[06:51] <ubuntu43e> i cant tell because now firefox wont run.. lol
[06:51] <c0rrupt> bob_4_a_day, how?
[06:52] <ubuntu43e> and that command was in a link i had bookmarked on firefox
[06:52] <bob_4_a_day> well i would just 'sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/*gdm* '  but you can do it any way you like.
[06:52] <pawan_> holycow: sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the (until-then) sudoers file right after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL    line. This is on my box, kewl. clues? full sudoers file in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899
[06:52] <ubuntu43e> i redid the last part of the guide .. the part about firefox plugin and stuff
[06:52] <thrice`> press the up arrow in a terminal to show past commands
[06:52] <c0rrupt> i dont know of any ways
[06:52] <uguy> Hi all, got a boot problem... as my only lilo.conf entry, I had an initrd image with an invalid "root=" entry pointing to an external HD not accessible at boot time. I thought the root= entry wasn't used until after the initial ramdisk initialization files are executed, but I'm not getting that far. At boot I see "RAMDISK: compressed image found at block 0." then "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1)
[06:52] <ubuntu43e> now firefox wont run..
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ wait i see it.
[06:53] <pawan_> holycow : it's a default sudoers file otherwise, as far as I know.
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> you are adding an arg.
[06:53] <c0rrupt> bob_4_a_day, how do you make links?
[06:53] <ubuntu43e> but when i ran the  udo update-alternatives --config java
[06:53] <holycow> how did you edit the sudoers file?
[06:53] <ubuntu43e> I got 3 options
[06:53] <holycow> hopefully not with a text editor
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> c0rrupt ln -s blah to.blah
[06:53] <bnD> can someone tell me what to do without sending me to the restrictedformats page? i cant browse the web atm :/
[06:54] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ you are typing  sudo nmap kewl ?
[06:54] <thrice`> bnD, well, you'll likely needp ackages from the web anyways :(
[06:54] <bnD> thrice`, damnation ;P
[06:54] <ubuntu43e> I got the same options as pablo posted
[06:54] <ubuntu43e> i selected 3
[06:54] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument
[06:54] <holycow> pawan_, if you edited it with a text editor you are going to have problems
[06:54] <c0rrupt> bob_4_a_day, im actually using kubuntu
[06:54] <c0rrupt> so would i remove kdm?
[06:54] <thrice`> bnD, yes :(  you need a gstreamer plugin for mp3 support
[06:55] <ubuntu43e> now firefox doesnt load
[06:55] <pawan_> holycow : I used visudo throughout, as far as I am aware.
[06:55] <bnD> thrice`, i thought i did already, weird
[06:55] <bnD> oh, thats my laptop
[06:55] <bnD> shite
[06:55] <thrice`> =\
[06:55] <bnD> excuse the language
[06:55] <holycow> pawan_, weird, that looks ok to me ...
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <ubuntu43e> i get java installed and stupid firefox dies just my luck
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <dbob_4_a_ay> pawan_ sorry i got disconnected.
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <Razor-X> skrewler: ....
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <jesseman_> rofl
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <jesseman_> spambots for the win!
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <Razor-X> yay!
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <Razor-X>  /ignore is awesome
[06:56] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument
[06:56] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <Astxist> er
[06:56] <skrewler> sry
[06:56] <thrice`> Seveas, around?
[06:56] <dbob_4_a_ay> you are calling    "/usr/bin/nmap kewl"   but you have the command "/usr/bin/nmap " in the sudoers.  you must have all args....  :)
[06:56] <jesseman_> ban please
[06:56] <sethk> c0rrupt, don't remove it, just change your configuration to not use it.
[06:57] <Agrajag> is mono horribly broken on amd64 or something?
[06:57] <holycow> so you see pawan_ its all your fault afterall
[06:57] <holycow> -_-
[06:57] <holycow> *giggle*
[06:57] <sethk> Agrajag, what are you seing?
[06:57] <bnD> hmm, apparently i could do it by grabbing k3b and k3b-mp3 something or rather
[06:57] <bnD> ;D
[06:57] <bnD> thanks guys
[06:57] <bnD> night
[06:57] <Agrajag> seing?
[06:57] <c0rrupt> sethk, how..
[06:57] <Agrajag> useing?
[06:57] <rohan> hi all
[06:57] <Agrajag> I'm trying to run muine
[06:57] <sethk> Agrajag, what is it doing that makes you think it is broken?
[06:57] <c0rrupt> thankfully i made a backup of it before i removed it
[06:58] <intelikey> pawan_ sorry i didn't catch that eariler....
[06:58] <rohan> i am having problem installin a gdm theme
[06:58] <rohan> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29032
[06:58] <rohan> this theme
[06:58] <Amaranth> Next time someone is acting up say "!ops"
[06:58] <sethk> Agrajag, or, what is it doing wrong?
[06:58] <Agrajag> it's doing nothing but eat cpu cycles and memory
[06:58] <rohan> its says it is not a tar.gz archive
[06:58] <rohan> whereas it is.
[06:58] <rohan> i tried "file"
[06:58] <rohan> and utarrring the file manually
[06:58] <rohan> when i run gdmsetup from console, the error i get is
[06:58] <intelikey> now i can uninstall sudo   :)
[06:58] <sethk> Agrajag, it's not terribly efficient, but it does better than that for me  :)  But I don't have that hardware here to see if it is different there
[06:58] <rohan> /bin/tar: Error in writing to standard output
[06:58] <rohan> /bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:58] <l0cke> http://www.askdavetaylor.com/sony_psp_connected_to_linux_systems.html *sigh*
[06:59] <rohan> strande
[06:59] <rohan> *strange
[06:59] <sethk> Agrajag, I think I would have heard, though
[06:59] <Agrajag> yeah, it worked fine on i386
[06:59] <sethk> rohan, full disk, almost certainly
[06:59] <Agrajag> I just installed amd64 and it's just spinning its wheels
[06:59] <Agrajag> oh well
[06:59] <rohan> sethk: lol, 4gb free
[06:59] <sethk> rohan, writing to standard output?
[06:59] <sethk> rohan, sorry, I didn't read all of it
[06:59] <rohan> yes
[06:59] <rohan> strange..
[07:00] <sethk> rohan, usually when you see that, and you have a compressed tar file, something is going wrong in the decompression
[07:00] <sethk> rohan, when you decompress with tar it is really just shorthand for
[07:00] <sethk> rohan, something like:   gunzip whatever.tar.gz | tar xf -
[07:00] <sethk> rohan, and xf - means extract from standard out
[07:00] <ubuntu43e> damnit firefox doesnt work any more I have reintalled it with the package manager and it still doesnt work!'
[07:00] <sethk> rohan, and xf - means extract from standard in
[07:01] <l0cke> how do I get out of a directory again? is it like cd..
[07:01] <Amaranth> sethk: tar xvjf foo.tar.gz
[07:01] <rohan> sethk: but how will gdmsetup recognize it ?
[07:01] <sethk> rohan, sorry.  in for extract, out for create
[07:01] <ubuntu43e> It wont load
[07:01] <sethk> Amaranth, right.  that is  gunzip foo.tar.gz | tar xf -
[07:01] <rohan> sethk: file-roller shows up the files correctly
[07:01] <intelikey> pawan_ that is the reason that the ub team desided on sudo for the default root access.  you 'can' set it up to allow very specific commands,  which is configured properly would be very secure.   problem is nearly no one configures it.
[07:01] <Agrajag> aha, fixed it. <3 strace
[07:01] <N6REJ> can anyone help me with a strange partitoin problem?
[07:01] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, remove your ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla* dir
[07:01] <sethk> rohan, yes, it should.  try decompressing the tar file separately.  It might do nothing, but it's worth a try as it's easy to do
[07:02] <varsendagger> N6REJ, what up?
[07:02] <rohan> sethk: i did gunzip on it. i now have a tar file.
[07:02] <intelikey> N6REJ tell us about your strange problem
[07:02] <glyn_> how do I add multiverse repositories?
[07:02] <Agrajag> rohan: you're supposed to use tar
[07:02] <Amaranth> !repos
[07:02] <sethk> rohan, ok, and what happens?
[07:02] <ubotu> from memory, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:02] <thrice`> glyn, uncomment from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <Agrajag> tar xzf <file>.tar.gz
[07:02] <rohan> Agrajag: yes, but still gdmsetup is not recognizing it.
[07:02] <l0cke> so how do i get to the lower directory? I thought it was cd..
[07:02] <rohan> sethk: the same error
[07:02] <varsendagger> N6REJ, are you still here
[07:02] <Agrajag> oh, ok
[07:02] <intelikey> cd ..
[07:02] <glyn_> the adding repositories how to doesn't really tell me multiverse..or maybe I'm just stupid right now
[07:02] <N6REJ> hey Intelikey: ok, I've been working on it for hours as you know... I've figured out a couple of things...  1) IF I put the mount point back to /usr/local/mysql it works!
[07:03] <sethk> Agrajag, xzf from the .gz, or xf from the .tar is the same
[07:03] <l0cke> duh, thanks
[07:03] <N6REJ> if I use the mount move command and try to move it again to /var/lib/mysql it fails!
[07:03] <sethk> rohan, that is very odd.
[07:03] <Agrajag> sethk: yeah yeah, didn't see what he was trying to do
[07:03] <sethk> rohan, you might strace it, see what is actually happening
[07:03] <N6REJ> it will ONLY work in /usr/local/mysql
[07:03] <sethk> Agrajag, neither did I, for a while  :)
[07:03] <sethk> Agrajag, in fact I'm still not sure I understand what is really going on
[07:04] <N6REJ> also, when e2fsck is running it doesn/t see it as /usr/local/mysql it sees it as /dev/hda6 even though all the other partitions are seen by names.
[07:04] <sethk> rohan, let's back up, because I'm definitely confused after all this.  give us the command you are doing and the error.  again.
[07:04] <intelikey> N6REJ unmount it and 'sudo ln -s /var/lib/mysql /usr/local/mysql '   badabing they are the same mount point.
[07:04] <sethk> rohan, so we are all talking about the same thing, at least
[07:04] <l0cke> hmm...making files is boring....
[07:04] <l0cke> so is compliing
[07:04] <rohan> sethk: i am trying to install a theme using "gdmsetup"
[07:04] <intelikey> well rm  /usr/local/mysql first so it don't just error out.
[07:05] <N6REJ> varsendagger: the problem is when I installed the system I put a partitoin for /usr/local/mysql for the data and then discovered it lives in /var/lib/mysql
[07:05] <N6REJ> intelikey: yeah, thats the only solution I know for now, but I wonder why it doesn't work?
[07:05] <sethk> rohan, ok, and what are you typing, and what are you seeing?
[07:05] <rohan> sethk: and it is not recognizing a .tar.gz file
[07:05] <varsendagger> -- N6 sorry don't know
[07:05] <sethk> rohan, ok, but more specifically?
[07:05] <rohan> sethk: its a gui program. gdmsetup.
[07:05] <rohan> sethk: wait a sec.
[07:05] <N6REJ> neither does anyone else LOL
[07:05] <intelikey> N6REJ now don't get me started lie'ing about why..... you'll never hear the end of it...
[07:06] <rohan> /bin/tar: Error in writing to standard output
[07:06] <rohan> /bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:06] <sethk> rohan, ok, then strace will help you.  strace (with all the right options) will tell you everything the gui program is actually doing.
[07:06] <rohan> and on gui i get error that file is not a .tar.gz archive
[07:06] <sethk> rohan, but wait
[07:06] <sethk> rohan, error writing to standard output
[07:06] <sethk> rohan, are you sure it isn't writing onto a different partition that is full?
[07:06] <N6REJ> Intelikey: lol I hear ya... there's a new mount command that is supposed to make this work easy...   mount --move olddir newdir     but that didn't work either
[07:06] <rohan> its a gdm theme for warty. does it make a difference ? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29032
[07:06] <intelikey> but N6REJ using a symlink will solve it and keep every thing where it is "supposed" to be.
[07:06] <rohan> sethk: no. i have only one partition. /
[07:07] <N6REJ> yeah, thats what I'm going to do for now... brb.
[07:07] <rohan> maybe i need to reboot :(
[07:07] <sethk> rohan, we'll have to strace it, then.
[07:07] <God> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[07:07] <sethk> rohan, can't hurt.  probably won't help, but what the hell ...
[07:07] <rohan> i think i will reboot.
[07:07] <rohan> the magic windows way :D
[07:07] <glyn_> thrice`:what do I uncomment?
[07:07] <intelikey> !build-essential
[07:07] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:07] <rohan> brb
[07:07] <God> Windows things usually don't fix linux things.
[07:07] <intelikey> !info build-essential
[07:07] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[07:07] <rohan> God: :P
[07:08] <sethk> God, you are betting that in ubuntu?  you usually only see that on older systems.
[07:08] <thrice`> glyn, the lines you wish to use :)
[07:08] <sethk> God, no way that glib is not installed
[07:08] <God> sethk, I'm trying to compile a media player better than mplayer because my music is high bitrate.
[07:08] <Orborde> God: Not on my system...
[07:08] <God> sethk, Also, It's just an old version
[07:09] <sethk> God, oh, it wants glib version 1, and you have version 2
[07:09] <crimsun> God: why would the media player used have anything to do with the bitrate at which your music is encoded?
[07:09] <God> crimsun, mplayer is playing them at low. It's bothering me.
[07:09] <intelikey> install build-essential
[07:09] <sethk> crimsun, it has to do with whether it can play the higher rate
[07:09] <glyn_> I uncommented the multiverse line
[07:09] <crimsun> huh?
[07:10] <glyn_> and I still can't find package gstream0.8-plugins-multiverse for mp3s
[07:10] <thrice`> glyn, ok; then sudo apt-get update to update your repos
[07:10] <crimsun> why would mplayer not be able to play something of a high bitrate?
[07:10] <God> I don't know
[07:10] <God> Don't ask me
[07:10] <glyn_> still can't find it seems like the instructions are broken
[07:10] <God> But it's gross sounding.
[07:10] <God> And I like my disney music played well.
[07:10] <crimsun> God: what format are we talking about here?
[07:10] <God> You heard it. God listens to Disney music.
[07:10] <God> MP3.
[07:10] <glyn_> it updated the multiverse
[07:10] <intelikey> glyn apt-cache search gstream
[07:10] <rohan> sethk: rebooted :)
[07:10] <crimsun> God: and what bitrate?
[07:11] <glyn_> but I still get the same error
[07:11] <thrice`> gstreamer0.8-MAD i believe is mp3 support
[07:11] <God> crimsun, I don't know. I think 192 or something.
[07:11] <crimsun> libmad can process mp3s of virtually any bitrate, even ones > 640
[07:11] <kapputu> how do I minimize a fullscreen window while using rdesktop?
[07:11] <God> libmad?
[07:11] <crimsun> God: the MAD library
[07:12] <intelikey> [alt] +[tab]   ?
[07:12] <rohan> sethk: doesnt work.
[07:12] <ookami> you know what i hate the most... helping someone that is doing other things at the same time rather than focusing on the problem they requested to get solved.
[07:12] <God> crimsun, Where is it? Like..what's the media thingy called?
[07:12] <subbie> is there any chance somebody here has been able to get nuvexport to run in ubuntu?
[07:12] <rohan> oh hel! now i pressed ctrl-s and suspended a vt.. how do i unsuspend it ?
[07:12] <Amaranth> fg
[07:12] <intelikey> you aint kiddin' ookami
[07:13] <intelikey> fg   ?
[07:13] <ookami> is it possible to do remote assistance type help in ubuntu? ive been trying to help my sis set up her gyach... but it seems its not going to progress unless i show her hands on
[07:13] <crimsun> God: ..."media thingy"?
[07:13] <rohan> Amaranth: fg from where ?
[07:13] <intelikey> or that only for ^Z
[07:13] <rohan> another vt ?
[07:13] <God> crimsun,  To play MP3's..What is the command?
[07:14] <kapputu> how do I minimize a fullscreen window while using rdesktop?
[07:14] <Amaranth> rohan: I think i misunderstood you.
[07:14] <crimsun> God: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad and/or mpg321?
[07:14] <rohan> Amaranth: ok.
[07:14] <rohan> :(
[07:14] <rohan> lost a vt
[07:14] <God> crimsun, I will in just one sec.
[07:14] <intelikey> ls
[07:14] <intelikey> svr
[07:15] <glyn_> thanks mad worked
[07:15] <God> crimsun, It says "broken packages"
[07:15] <kapputu> any help with rdesktop guys?
[07:15] <latone> hmmmm
[07:15] <latone> cool I made it somewhere LOL
[07:15] <ookami> 1.5 hours late... setting up gyach should not take 1.5 hours. if only she would focus.
[07:15] <crimsun> God: so why does it say that? What have you tried to install before?
[07:16] <God> crimsun, I haven't installed much be fore. This is like my 3rd login to ubuntu ever.
[07:17] <crimsun> God: but you have broken packages? Paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:17] <subbie> is anybody here using MythTV and know how to make .NUV files into something more useful
[07:17] <intelikey> lol i wish you wouldn't have asked that ^S question   :)
[07:18] <God> crimsun, Pasted.
[07:18] <intelikey> so how do you resume from a susspended console  ?
[07:18] <crimsun> God: url?
[07:18] <God> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4903 ?
[07:18] <ajmitch_> intelikey: ^Q
[07:18] <klander> does ubuntu come with cd burning software ?
[07:18] <rohan> klander: apt-get install gnomebaker
[07:18] <rohan> or k3b
[07:19] <N6REJ> Intelikey: well, here goes reboot 34252334328979 tonight!
[07:19] <crimsun> God: is the main repository enabled?
[07:19] <God> crimsun, I would think so.
[07:19] <R0bNyc> i want to get kde 3.5 for dapper
[07:19] <R0bNyc> how can i
[07:19] <crimsun> God: apt-cache policy libmad0
[07:19] <intelikey> is that alllllllllllllllllllll
[07:19] <crimsun> God: (onto paste.)
[07:19] <latone> how would I get my dhcp ip address?
[07:19] <ajmitch_> intelikey: hm?
[07:19] <kantuterorist[wo> whoaw
[07:19] <N6REJ> lool
[07:20] <N6REJ> FAILED!
[07:20] <emex> iv gt a prob installing ubuntu can i ask here?
[07:20] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[07:20] <intelikey> yeah it works ajmitch_ i just never used suspend before.... only ^Z
[07:20] <N6REJ> crimsun HELP!
[07:20] <_native_> wohahahaha!
[07:20] <crimsun> uh?
[07:20] <God> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4904
[07:20] <moccah> Any one here knows what to do with at gpg error?
[07:21] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: what's breaking?
[07:21] <intelikey> N6REJ did you symlink the two mount points ?     and tell it to use the one in /usr ?    and it still don't work ?
[07:21] <statickaos> when i do apt-get upgrade it lists some packages that are held back. how could i make it upgrade those also?
[07:21] <N6REJ> when I first installed breezy server, I made a /usr/local/mysql partition for the mysql database data.  I have tried till I'm blue in the face and it won't move the mount point.
[07:21] <_native_> moccah; yo cd /var/lib/apt/ and rm -rf lists
[07:22] <N6REJ> let me look intelikey: I'm getting flustered
[07:22] <crimsun> God: you don't have main enabled, just as I mentioned earlier
[07:22] <MrFarts> N6REJ, eh ?
[07:22] <rohan> ah well.. did it
[07:22] <God> crimsun, Where do I enable it?
[07:23] <N6REJ> I think the symlink is backwards!   /usr/local/mysql -> /var/lib/mysql
[07:23] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument
[07:23] <MrFarts> N6REJ, so remove the symlink
[07:23] <crimsun> God: are you using GNOME?
[07:23] <intelikey> crimsun i told N6REJ just a bit ago to just make /usr/local/mysql a symlink to the mount point in var where he wanted it mounted.....     but i do not know mysql  so that may have been bad guess work....
[07:23] <God> crimsun,  Yes.
[07:23] <crimsun> God: System> Administration> Synaptic> Settings> Repositories> Add
[07:23] <pawan_> intelikey: yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument
[07:24] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: do (did) you have you important data in mysql?
[07:24] <N6REJ> ajmitch no, not right now.
[07:24] <Jesus> God: is that you, father ?
[07:24] <N6REJ> maybe a week ago LOL
[07:24] <God> Jesus, Yes, my son
[07:24] <God> crimsun, Alright..what do I add?
[07:24] <_native_> jesus was not gods son.
[07:24] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: then you could change the mount point in /etc/fstab to mount the partition on /var/lib/mysql & recreate the databases?
[07:24] <Amaranth> Ok, this is going a bit too far...
[07:24] <intelikey> pawan_ the command in the sudoers file must be exactly like the command you type less the leading sudo
[07:24] <God> _native_, In your religion he isn't.
[07:24] <Jesus> _native_, he was according to christian mythology
[07:24] <crimsun> God: the top checkbox.
[07:24] <N6REJ> ajmitch NOPE fails everytime
[07:25] <God> crimsun, It's checked.
[07:25] <Amaranth> Any and all religious debate will result in excessive banning.
[07:25] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: saying what fails would help :)
[07:25] <_native_> w00t!
[07:25] <bluebird> Is there a way to redirect STDOUT to a file, but still have it output to STDOUT?  I'd like to log a script's output, but also display it in the term it's running in.
[07:25] <moccah> _native_, thanks a bunch:D
[07:25] <_native_> bluebird; yes
[07:25] <N6REJ> ajmitch IF in /etc/fstab /dev/hda6 = /usr/local/mysql then all is well.  IF I change it to /var/lib/mysql it fails on reboot
[07:25] <crimsun> God: please update, then
[07:25] <N6REJ> will not mount
[07:25] <_native_> moccah; it worked? ;p
[07:26] <N6REJ> but will mount manually
[07:26] <moccah> _native_, it removed some gpg errors:P
[07:26] <intelikey> pawan_ you can have multipul commands on that line in sudoers if you need them.     e.g.    nmap,nmap kewl,nmap blah    better check the seperator tho
[07:26] <pawan_> intelikey : so I type nmap as root, I get the options. I type sudo nmap and I get a password prompt, which I should not I think.
[07:26] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: can you give more info apart from 'fails'? error messages?
[07:26] <moccah> _native_, got only one left :P
[07:26] <_native_> moccah; do you get any errors now?
[07:26] <bluebird> _native_: Would you be so kind as to tell me how?  =)
[07:26] <N6REJ> ajmitch, not that I know of, where do I look?  I just flat refuses to automount
[07:26] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: and how were you mounting manually?
[07:26] <intelikey> pawan_ what does the line in sudoers look like now ?
[07:27] <pawan_> intelikey: um. so I should put in sudo /usr/bin/nmap then? odd. Lemme try
[07:27] <God> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4905
[07:27] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: use a pastebin to show me your /etc/fstab
[07:27] <moccah> _native_, got one...from cipherfunk.org ...
[07:27] <N6REJ> k
[07:27] <rohan> in the file selection dialog box, how do i view hidden folders ?
[07:27] <pawan_> sudo /usr/bin/nmap doesn't do it either.
[07:27] <pawan_> and sudoers file is still like in pastebin.
[07:27] <intelikey> pawan_ no not sudo   just what follows it...   everything that follows it.
[07:27] <crimsun> God: either use Synaptic to update, or close Synaptic then use apt-get
[07:28] <N6REJ> ajmitch_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4906 this works, but mysql puts its data in /var/lib/mysql not /usr/local/mysql
[07:28] <intelikey> pawan_ also do a 'sudo which nmap '  and make sure the address is /usr/bin   that will affect it to
[07:29] <_native_> bluebird; its in the friendly manual ;]  at lines 1189
[07:29] <crimsun> you don't need sudo which, just which suffices
[07:29] <ookami> is remote desktop very unsecure to have running?
[07:29] <_native_> bluebird; or man bash | grep redirection
[07:29] <_native_> bluebird; or man bash | grep redirect
[07:29] <bluebird> _native_: I'm not sure what you mean by "lines 1189", but I asked in #debian and they told me about "tee"...thanks
[07:29] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: right, if you change that to /var/lib/mysql & put it *after* the line that mounts /var.. you might have better luck
[07:29] <pawan_> intelikey : I seem to be missing your point. Or vice versa ;-) sudo nmap without an argument should work if sudoers just has /usr/bin/nmap      (no args)
[07:29] <N6REJ> OH!
[07:29] <N6REJ> ok, let me try that!
[07:29] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: since /var/lib/mysql won't exist as a mountpoint before /var is mounted
[07:30] <God> crimsun, It works now. Thanks
[07:30] <_native_> bluebird; do man bash at the bottom it reports what line your on in the man page.
[07:30] <intelikey> N6REJ which should be ok if /usr/local/mysql is a link to  /var/lib/mysql  ?  ^^^
[07:30] <l0cke> make install on subversion isn't working :(
[07:30] <N6REJ> OMG!! your kidding thats ALL ???
[07:30] <N6REJ> no intelikey, it fails!
[07:30] <pawan_> intelikey : sudo which nmap is going to work on which.
[07:30] <ajmitch_> intelikey: no, it'd have to be the other way round to work
[07:30] <lightbright> my friend cant run Ubuntu now, it says something about his /home is missing! If he deleted his whole /home, does he need to reinstall everything , or is there another solution?
[07:30] <God> crimsun, Do you know what the media player I should use is called?
[07:31] <crimsun> God: did you reenable the main repo?
[07:31] <klander> how do i write to my ntfs partition from ubuntu ?
[07:31] <bluebird> _native_: thanks
[07:31] <Amaranth> !captive
[07:31] <ubotu> hmm... captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[07:31] <God> crimsun, yeah
[07:31] <l0cke> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/apr': Permission denied
[07:31] <Amaranth> klander: Appearently uou don't.
[07:31] <l0cke> how to fix?
[07:31] <ajmitch_> N6REJ: I'd suggest moving the data out of /var/lib/mysql before you mount it, and back in afterwards
[07:31] <God> crimsun, I ran the apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:31] <N6REJ> ok... let me do that now.
[07:32] <N6REJ> one moment please
[07:32] <ajmitch_> hey viviersf
[07:32] <moccah> lightbright,: you can boot up as root, and set a new /home partition
[07:32] <intelikey> pawan_ ????<pawan_> intelikey : sudo which nmap is going to work on which.  ????
[07:32] <God> crimsun, I just did mpg321
[07:32] <viviersf> lo ajmitch_
[07:32] <intelikey> huh ?
[07:32] <l0cke> how do i get rid of a premission denied error?
[07:32] <lightbright> moccah: how can you boot as root?  I thought root was disabled
[07:32] <pawan_> intelikey : 'sudo which nmap' is going to have 'sudo' work on 'which'.
[07:32] <intelikey> pawan_ yes
[07:33] <moccah> bah, yeah.. then you can boot using either a small
[07:33] <lightbright> moccah: you trolling?
[07:33] <intelikey> and tell the path so you can be sure it is /usr/bin/nmap that you are calling....
[07:33] <Amaranth> sudo sh -c 'some commands here' if you're having problems running things with sudo
[07:33] <Orborde> What happens if I delete ~/.Xauthority?
[07:33] <moccah> lightbright, i came to close to the enter key :p
[07:33] <crimsun> God: so in a Terminal, mpg321 /name/of/file.mp3
[07:33] <pawan_> intelikey : I seem to be missing your point. Or vice versa ;-) 'sudo nmap' without an argument should work if sudoers just has /usr/bin/nmap      (no args), but it does not work. It (sudo nmap) still prompts for a password
[07:33] <God> crimsun, Yeah I got it playing now. Thanks. =)
[07:33] <Amaranth> Orborde: Bad Things.
[07:33] <moccah> lightbright, you can boot up using a live CD ;)
[07:34] <lightbright> moccah: and do what then?
[07:34] <Orborde> Amaranth: More specifically...? Something is messed up with my X forwarding.
[07:34] <moccah> lightbright, or you can use rescue mode.. I`m not sure if that boots you to root
[07:34] <lightbright> moccah: load uding liveCD and then what?
[07:34] <intelikey> pawan_ yeah i saw that.   i asked to see the line in sudoers that you now have ?
[07:34] <lightbright> moccah: isnt there stuff in /home that Ubuntu needs to run properly?
[07:34] <klander> can i format a partition as fat32 from linux ?
[07:34] <Amaranth> Orborde: I don't remember exactly what it does but I don't think you'll be able to use X anymore.
[07:35] <Amaranth> klander: mkfs.vfat
[07:35] <Orborde> Amaranth: What if I have X off when I do it?
[07:35] <pawan_> intelikey : pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap
[07:35] <Orborde> exit
[07:35] <crimsun> lightbright: ...no
[07:35] <moccah> lightbright, naaa, all the configuration files and that kind of things are gone ...
[07:35] <ookami> if a user has a deb or TAR file, is there a way to install it without issuing commands in terminal my sister keeps messing up the commands im telling her to do and its getting beyond frustrating.
[07:35] <MrFarts> ookami, package manager/archive manager ?
[07:35] <moccah> lightbright, else than that it should be alright ;)
[07:36] <n0dl> is there a command line app that allows me to listen to music as well as internet radio streams?
[07:36] <ookami> MrFarts, whats that under?
[07:36] <pawan_> n0dl: mpg123 does
[07:36] <moccah> lightbright, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gainrootmodifykernel  <--- check that one..
[07:36] <n0dl> pawan: cool thanx
[07:36] <lightbright> moccah: im confused as you still havent given a solution or procedure
[07:36] <subbie> does anybody know a good piece of software for turning mpg -> xvid or divx under linux?
[07:36] <ookami> archive manager the same as package manager?
[07:36] <intelikey> pawan_ 'pawan   kewl=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap,/usr/bin/nmap kewl '     if that line does not work, i know not why.
[07:36] <MrFarts> hmm, i guess synaptic doesn't install straigh from debs
[07:37] <l0cke> *sigh* why can't installing on luinux be like a mac?
[07:37] <ookami> err..........n/m.
[07:37] <ookami> lol
[07:37] <intelikey> pawan_ by all i've read on it it should.
[07:37] <moccah> lightbright, just remember: instead of using "vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386" use your current kernel
[07:37] <lightbright> moccah: I dont want to gain root!  I want to know how to get Ubuntu running if the whole /home is been deleted
[07:37] <MrFarts> ookami, tar files should be automatically opened by the archive manager thinger under nautilus
[07:37] <lightbright> crimsun: do you have a solution to getting a system running again that has had its /home deleted?
[07:37] <Orborde> Amaranth: It appears that X forwarding has broken itself for my own user account only.
[07:37] <Terminus> MrFarts, installing it is a different thing i think though...
[07:38] <crimsun> lightbright: a sane system does not depend on anything in /home
[07:38] <moccah> lightbright, : i just told you a solution how to gain root, and from there set up a new /home partition
[07:38] <MrFarts> ookami, i'm sure you can find some graphical deb installer
[07:38] <MrFarts> ookami, check freshmeat
[07:38] <Amaranth> Orborde: compare your files and settings to those of another user
[07:38] <pawan_> intelikey : nope. Doesn't. My system must be b0rked in some strange way.
[07:38] <lightbright> moccah: how do you set up a new /home?
[07:38] <n0dl> does anyone here know how to use links/elinks really well?
[07:38] <n0dl> how would i set elinks up to run a certain file type with a certain program
[07:38] <intelikey> pawan_ no error ?    just prompts ?
[07:39] <pawan_> intelikey : just password prompts
[07:39] <n0dl> e.g. : *.pls open with mpg123?
[07:39] <lightbright> moccah: what website is only good for a running system
[07:39] <intelikey> pawan_ i give up man.   i can't see any reason for it.
[07:39] <pawan_> n0dl: let me guess, you want to have it play the stream.
[07:39] <lightbright> what = that
[07:39] <n0dl> pawan_: lol... correctomundo
[07:39] <MrFarts> ookami, how hard is it to type dpkg -i though ?
[07:40] <lightbright> crimsun: it wont boot, it says /home is missing!  any sol,ution or we need to reinstall Ubuntu?
[07:40] <crimsun> lightbright: what was in /home that it depends on?
[07:40] <ookami> MrFarts! shes just not paying attention! i dont know why im bothering so much to help her...
[07:40] <ajmitch_> evening talios
[07:40] <talios> evening
[07:40] <MrFarts> ookami, make an alias for her if it's really that hard to remember
[07:40] <pawan_> n0dl : you want to pipe it somehow I guess. google use and abuse of pipes in audio data debian
[07:41] <N6REJ> ajmitch_: typoed the /etc/fstab field so trying again..
[07:41] <n0dl> alright
[07:41] <pawan_> n0dl: I wrote that piece
[07:41] <ookami> im about to write up a bash script to install this for her...
[07:41] <lightbright> crimsun: no idea, all i know Ubuntu wont load now, says something about /home
[07:41] <lightbright> crimsun: any solutions?
[07:41] <crimsun> without knowing 1) the error, 2) what you did to cause (1), no
[07:41] <lightbright> crimsun: the /home was deleted.
[07:41] <pawan_> n0dl: it'll probably have some useful stuff to springboard from. Or not.
[07:42] <MrFarts> ookami, alias installpackage='sudo dpkg -i'
[07:42] <lightbright> crimsun: the cause was that whole /home was deleted :P lol
[07:42] <moccah> lightbright, it would be easier if you told us what the error message said ;)
[07:42] <N6REJ> ajmitch_: WAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!  I owe you one! :D
[07:42] <lightbright> crimsun: and now wont load. any ideas why?
[07:42] <N6REJ> ty ty ty
[07:42] <crimsun> lightbright: not having a /home doesn't prevent Ubuntu from loading by default
[07:42] <crimsun> (I just tried it)
[07:42] <N6REJ> ajmitch_: would you feel deprived if I put that in a wiki?
[07:43] <SCMark> how do I change the calendar in the top right to start with sunday instead of monday?
[07:44] <lightbright> crimsun: well thats weird then for it wont load
[07:44] <lightbright> crimsun: ok ill get it reinstalled
[07:44] <intelikey> http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/examples/sudoers
[07:44] <indium> I'm having a problem with gdmflexiserver. It just shows the nvidia logo and then shuts down. Can anyone help?
[07:44] <lightbright> thanks anyway
[07:44] <ookami> how do you remove programs?
[07:44] <moccah> ookami, you can use synaptic =)
[07:45] <ookami> but gyach is not listed in tehre.
[07:45] <ookami> moccah, but gyach is not listed in there. (it was a binary off a page)
[07:46] <moccah> ookami, tried apt-get remove gyach ?
[07:46] <ookami> yeah it says: E: Couldn't find package gyach
[07:47] <ookami> but when i type gyach in terminal it runs gyach...
[07:47] <lightbright> moccah: isnt there a way to uve LiveCD to reinstall just a new /home ?
[07:47] <moccah> lightbright, sure
[07:48] <intelikey> pawan pawan pawan   wish you wouldn't have given up guite that soon......................
[07:48] <moccah> lightbright, you`ll need to mount the disk you got. And then edit the partition table ;)
[07:48] <lightbright> moccah: how? :P
[07:48] <indium> ookami: Find the plave where you got the binary, and see if there is any documentation to remove gyach. It was not installed as a .deb
[07:48] <Jypa> stupid question, but, how i install ubuntu?
[07:48] <lightbright> moccah: edit the partition table?
[07:48] <Madpilot> Jypa: off a CD?
[07:48] <ookami> ok
[07:48] <Jypa> yes
[07:48] <moccah> lightbright, yupp
[07:49] <lightbright> moccah: elaborate please on the edit the partition table
[07:49] <SCMark> anyone know how to change my date format so that the weeks start on Sunday?
[07:49] <Jypa> i have now that .iso how i burn it?
[07:49] <lightbright> SCMark: lol
[07:49] <MrFarts> Jypa, either from nautilus or the commandline :)
[07:49] <lightbright> moccah: how do you edit the partition table?
[07:49] <Madpilot> Jypa: which operating system are you using right now?
[07:49] <typewriter> is there a really lightweight torrent client?
[07:49] <Jypa> windows xp
[07:50] <typewriter> i just wanna download the ubuntu torrent real quick
[07:50] <indium> typewriter: You could use btdownloadcurses
[07:50] <lightbright> moccah: ?
[07:51] <Jypa> do i just unpack that .iso and burn to cd?
[07:51] <Madpilot> Jypa, no you burn the ISO all at once. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto - it's got XP instructions
[07:51] <Jypa> thx m8
[07:52] <lightbright> does anyone know the procedure to reinstall a fresh /home ?
[07:52] <moccah> lightbright, you boot up using liveCD, then mount the harddrive that got ubuntu on it. then you have to fdisk /the/device/you/got
[07:53] <aftertaf> morning...
[07:54] <moccah> lightbright, i.ex. a IDE disk is probably a /dev/hda (if primary) or if you got a SCSI disk you have to use /dev/sda
[07:54] <Orborde> I think I may require assistance setting up dual monitors.
[07:55] <lightbright> moccah: so I load LiveCD and the mount the hda and then type:  fdisk /hda ?
[07:56] <moccah> lightbright, yupp
[07:56] <lightbright> moccah: since when will fdisk create a new /home ?
[07:56] <lightbright> moccah: home is on same partition as /
[07:56] <moccah> lightbright, : you got /home on a separate partition ?
[07:56] <intelikey> umount hda before running fdisk on it.
[07:57] <lightbright> moccah: no i told you that there is only hda1 and hda2 for swap!  home and / is on hda1
[07:57] <sazwerx> what app that looks like macromedia dreamweaver?
[07:57] <lightbright> moccah: so whats the steps?
[07:58] <sethk> note that SATA drives, when the chipset is fully supported, also show up as sda, b, etc.
[07:58] <moccah> lightbright: I wouldn`t recomend you doing it, if you never done it before... you`ll need to repartition the hda1 disk you got.. use some of the free space to a separate /home partition ..
[07:59] <lightbright> moccah: now I know you been trolling for the last 20 mins wasting my time!  Consider yourself ignored
[07:59] <moccah> lightbright, no problem ...
[08:00] <coz> morning all
[08:00] <coz> is anyone here?
[08:00] <atrophic> I just added a pcmcia wireless network card... how do I get ubuntu to recognize it?
[08:00] <Corrupter> i am
[08:00] <Corrupter> lol
[08:00] <coz> well hello
[08:00] <atrophic> coz, plenty of people around, ask your question ;)
[08:01] <robotgeek> atrophic: which one
[08:01] <Corrupter> atrophic: thats a question i've been asking since i was 14 man...
[08:01] <coz> I just found a command "dselect" has anyone used this before?
[08:01] <moccah> coz, sure, I`ve used it when i got Debian as my web server
[08:01] <sethk> coz, sure, it's been around for years with debian
[08:02] <coz> interesting way of adding apps
[08:02] <atrophic> Corrupter, have you figured out the answer since you were 14?
[08:02] <sethk> coz, it's basically a curses version of the package manager
[08:02] <Corrupter> atrophic: yes, don't use Wirless with linux
[08:02] <coz> I see i like it
[08:02] <intelikey> when you use apt-get or aptitude or synaptic you probably use deselect and don't even know it.....  :)
[08:02] <atrophic> Corrupter, but I want to :p
[08:02] <moccah> coz, its kindof like aptitude
[08:02] <sethk> coz, maybe you're an apt-get person at heart   :)
[08:02] <coz> Oh well until ubuntu I have never really been a linux fan
[08:03] <coz> but I am really getting into this
[08:03] <Corrupter> atrophic: i've been trying forever and a day on 4 different network cars, unless you've actually checked and made sure you network card is one of the 10 that actually works with Linux, don't bother
[08:03] <sethk> atrophic, I don't necessarily agree with Corrupter
[08:03] <coz> corrupter you mean ethernet cards?
[08:03] <atrophic> it works with linux, I've borrowed it from a friend until the one I ordered via mail arrives
[08:03] <sethk> atrophic, it depends on your goals, and the time you have available, etc.
[08:03] <Corrupter> coz: no i mean wireless network cards
[08:03] <coz> oh sorry
[08:04] <atrophic> finding the drivers for it etc won't be a problem... I just don't know how to get ubuntu to recognize that the hardware is there, if I even have to do anything?
[08:04] <lightbright> does anyone here please know the procedure to reinstall a fresh /home ?
[08:04] <sethk> atrophic, probably you won't have to do anything at all.
[08:04] <sethk> lightbright, sure, but what are you trying to accomplish by doing that?
[08:04] <Corrupter> it should already be there if it's going to work
[08:04] <atrophic> it's not showing up in network admin :/ where else should I look?
[08:05] <sethk> atrophic, nowhere
[08:05] <sethk> atrophic, if it were working, it would show up
[08:05] <atrophic> where would it show up, if it was working
[08:05] <sethk> atrophic, what card is it?
[08:05] <Corrupter> thats the one thing i've always had a problem with and hasn't been fixed yet, little to no wireless connectivity
[08:05] <sethk> atrophic, in network admin.  I thought you said that you looked in network admin
[08:05] <atrophic> linksys wpc11
[08:06] <coz> I have another question
[08:06] <atrophic> yes, that's where I looked, didn't know if that was the right place though
[08:06] <sethk> atrophic, yes, it should show up there.
[08:06] <coz>  I use wacom tablet and have all the drivers in and even pressure sensitivity in Gimp, yeah!
[08:06] <haziq> tawau
[08:06] <sethk> atrophic, unless you like adventure, get a card that shows up without jumping through hoops.
[08:06] <coz> but, when I use , for example the brush tool in gimp and them go for another tool, It won't release the brush tool and I am locke dout
[08:06] <Corrupter> fiery hoops
[08:06] <intelikey> lightbright if there is no directory /home  sudo mkdir /home   &  sudo mkdir /home/<username>   then sudo cp /etc/skel/* /home/<username>      last sudo chown <username>:<username> /home/<username> -R
[08:07] <Corrupter> with tigers and lions on the other side
[08:07] <atrophic> the one I ordered via mail was on a compatability list... in the meantime, I don't mind jumping through hoops
[08:07] <atrophic> I just don't know which hoops to jump through, was hoping for guidance
[08:07] <sethk> intelikey, I don't think that's what he means, but I'm not sure.
[08:07] <haziq> #tawau
[08:07] <sethk> lightbright, what are you trying to accomplish?  Or recover from?  or what?
[08:07] <Corrupter> if you can get a program called linuxant to work... then you'll be my god, look that up
[08:08] <intelikey> sethk may not be but it sounded like he was awaxing / just a bit ago
[08:08] <Corrupter> it's a windows driver to linux program
[08:08] <sethk> intelikey, you may be right.  I'm just trying to figure it out.  :)
[08:08] <sethk> Corrupter, it is only usable with the precise unpatched version of the kernel it was developed for
[08:09] <Corrupter> exactly
[08:09] <sethk> Corrupter, for that kernel, it isn't difficult.  for others, it is very very difficult
[08:09] <Corrupter> thats why i told him if he can get it to work... he'll be my god
[08:09] <sethk> Corrupter, I write drivers for a living and I had trouble with it.
[08:09] <Corrupter> read... the god thing... again
[08:09] <intelikey> i was just trying to answer "<lightbright> does anyone here please know the procedure to reinstall a fresh /home ?"  as best i could.
[08:10] <sethk> intelikey, oh, I agree, you answered that.  I just don't think that he is really _asking_ that.  :)
[08:11] <moccah> sethk, he managed to delete /home and Ubunti won`t boot up after ..
[08:11] <sethk> moccah, ah, then intelikey was right  :)
[08:12] <coz> something up with linux wacom driver cannot find any reference on the internet
[08:12] <sethk> but it is actually not too hard to fix, though.
[08:13] <sethk> just create /home, then create a new user, and copy the files from that user into all the (supposed to exist) other home directories.
[08:13] <sethk> that at least will get you to boot
[08:13] <sethk> although...it should boot without home, at least into console mode
[08:13] <intelikey> linux will boot with no /home
[08:13] <moccah> sethk, yeah, I tried to help.. but I think he ignored me.. he said something about me trolling him :S
[08:13] <Corrupter> what does du do?
[08:14] <sethk> Corrupter, disk usage.  tells you how much space a file, directory, etc. use
[08:14] <intelikey> du = disk usage     man du
[08:14] <Corrupter> crap...
[08:14] <moccah> Corrupter, estimates file space usage
[08:14] <Corrupter> its showing me every file on my hard drive
[08:14] <intelikey> ^C
[08:14] <moccah> intelikey, indeed
[08:14] <intelikey> that is why i said  'man du '
[08:14] <sethk> Corrupter, use the -s (summary) flag
[08:15] <sethk> not using du * might help also.  :)
[08:15] <intelikey> and --maxdepth=1  maybe
[08:15] <Corrupter> is blackbox compatible with Ubuntu?
[08:15] <sethk> Corrupter, sure.
[08:15] <Corrupter> it doesn't install
[08:16] <sethk> Corrupter, I've installed it, although not on the most recent release
[08:16] <Corrupter> i'm using the most recent, lol
[08:16] <intelikey> i have 'alias du='du --maxdepth=1' in /etc/profile
[08:16] <Corrupter> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:16] <intelikey> handy as the pocket on a shirt
[08:17] <sethk> Corrupter, probably a broken dependency
[08:17] <rob1> its good for holding your pens intelikey
[08:17] <Corrupter> how can i fix that?
[08:18] <intelikey> oh that's --max-depth=1  sorry
[08:18] <lightbright> sethk: hi :)
[08:18] <coz> synaptic says I have one broken package on my system to use the broken fileter how do I do this?
[08:18] <sethk> intelikey, that's one of the nasty ones.  max-depth for some, maxdepth for others (like find,  I believe)
[08:18] <coz> filter
[08:18] <lightbright> sethk: my friend deleted his /home and he said he cant now load Ubuntu!  whats the best way to fix as he said it says something about cant load because /home is missing
[08:18] <intelikey> yeah
[08:19] <smergler2> hey.. question.. where are the cron jobs stored?
[08:19] <sethk> lightbright, well, everyone here agrees that it should boot without home.  Ignoring that, however...
[08:19] <sethk> lightbright, mkdir /home
[08:19] <lightbright> intelikey: thanks but what you said I could not understand :P  sorry, can you say it layman terms please?
[08:19] <sethk> lightbright, then create each user
[08:20] <sethk> lightbright, but there's a snag, as you can't create users who already exist
[08:20] <lightbright> sethk: mkdir /home from where?
[08:20] <sethk> lightbright, anywhere.  it's a full path.
[08:20] <ookami> im trying to connect to a remote ubuntu machine that has remote desktop on, but the connection keeps timing out.
[08:20] <lightbright> sethk: yeah its ok, I will get him to reinsall eveything from strach
[08:20] <lightbright> sethk: you cant type anything though
[08:20] <lightbright> sethk: it doesnt even load
[08:20] <moccah> ookami, : have you configured portforwarding and so on?
[08:20] <sethk> lightbright, boot the cd in rescue mode, or use the live cd
[08:21] <coz> how do I locate broken package in synaptic with broken filter?
[08:21] <ookami> no... not at all. i dont even know what ports it uses.
[08:21] <intelikey> lightbright run that command, replace every <username>  with his/her user name.
[08:21] <ookami> moccah^
[08:21] <lightbright> sethk: ah ok thanks
[08:21] <lightbright> intelikey: what command?  the one you sent me?
[08:21] <intelikey> the one i pm'd you
[08:21] <mrkoje> hey everyone
[08:21] <lightbright> intelikey: ok ty
[08:21] <moccah> ookami, what kind of remote desktop aplication you use?
[08:22] <lightbright> intelikey: you think those commands will do the trick 100%? :)
[08:22] <intelikey>  sudo mkdir /home ; sudo mkdir /home/<username> ; sudo cp /etc/skel/* /home/<username> ; sudo chown <username>:<username> /home/<username> -R
[08:22] <ookami> moccah, which ever it was that was built into ubuntu
[08:22] <intelikey> let the res of them answer that.   that is the command ^
[08:22] <lightbright> sethk: so you can run the installation CD and run "rescue" ?
[08:22] <intelikey> err rest
[08:22] <ookami> moccah, for now, in the terminal im running vncview
[08:22] <lightbright> intelikey: ok thanks
[08:22] <moccah> ok
[08:22] <ookami> i can get a prompt for my machine password, but not for the remote machine
[08:23] <sethk> lightbright, I have to check the exact way to run rescue.  but press F1 at the prompt, it tells you all
[08:23] <atrophic> anybody have a link handy with wireless card compatability with ubuntu/debian?
[08:23] <aftertaf> !ndiswrapper
[08:23] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:23] <robotgeek> atrophic: check the wiki, the link to the .nl site worls fine
[08:23] <moccah> ookami, first of all you have to check System->Preferences-> Remote Desktop on the machine you want to connect to
[08:24] <ookami> moccah, that part is done.
[08:24] <kelbizzle> anyone know the latest version of gaim?
[08:24] <Latone> Wow ... this linux stuff is different
[08:24] <typewriter> gaim is 1.5.0
[08:25] <lightbright> sethk: cool thanks :)
[08:25] <lightbright> sethk and intelikey thanks for your help!  see you tomorrow
[08:25] <kelbizzle> how do I update?
[08:25] <typewriter> kelbizzle: i dont know if it's out in ubuntus repository or whatever yet.. but that's the latest version of gaim
[08:25] <typewriter> try apt-get update... apt-get upgrade ?
[08:26] <Corrupter> sudo apt-get update
[08:26] <kelbizzle> i have version 1.1.4
[08:26] <Latone> can I do apt-get from the terminal window?
[08:26] <Corrupter> yes
[08:27] <Latone> I am teaching myself to run a linux webserver ... how would I apt-get apache?
[08:28] <Madpilot> !apache
[08:28] <ubotu> well, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[08:28] <Madpilot> Latone: see the URLs above, esp. the first one ^^^
[08:28] <Latone> cool thanks for the links ...
[08:29] <Corrupter> are there any good ftp server programs for Linux
[08:29] <intelikey> you know i just happened to think, that could be distro specific.    does ub use /etc/skel   or  /etc/skeleton   or what ?
[08:29] <Madpilot> Latone: you can also install stuff thru Synaptic, if you don't want to mess around in terminals...
[08:29] <Madpilot> intelikey: /etc/skel, it looks like
[08:29] <moccah> ookami, after scanning some sites i think 5901 is the port the vncserver listens on
[08:30] <La_PaRCa> Corrupter, vsftpd
[08:30] <intelikey> k i told it right then.  ty Madpilot
[08:30] <moccah> ookami, so just forward that port to the machine that are running vnc-server
[08:30] <drcode> hi all
[08:30] <drcode> how can I install libedataserver3
[08:30] <intelikey> hi
[08:30] <drcode> in ubuntu
[08:30] <kaha> Hello! Just upgraded to Breezy, and have probs all of a sudden changing resolution in some games (Unreal Tournament, NWN). Screen turns to garbage. ATI Radeon 9200 Sapphire card, and fglrx drivers. Any ideas?
[08:30] <Latone> let me try installing this real fast
[08:31] <intelikey> drcode where did you get it ?
[08:31] <Corrupter> does anyone know how to fix this error?
[08:31] <Corrupter> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:31] <Mitja> Why is ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso actually a live DVD?
[08:31] <intelikey> hmmmm
[08:32] <Corrupter> anybody know?
[08:33] <mrkoje> nope sorry
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> oh i just got my orders of breezy CDs ..thanks to canonical and mark :P cheers!!
[08:33] <intelikey> all install cd's are live cd's in a sense...
[08:33] <Latone> ok ... I put in sudo apt-get install apache2 into the terminal window and it asks for a pasword?????
[08:33] <mrkoje> they are live in that they will install
[08:33] <intelikey> Corrupter you have build-essential installed ?
[08:33] <mrkoje> you can get a cli
[08:34] <Corrupter> whats that?
[08:34] <Madpilot> crap - the kernel update earlier today has eaten my 3d drivers AGAIN... damn...
[08:34] <Mitja> intelikey, but how do I install from it? It won't give me any options.
[08:35] <robotgeek> Madpilot: why don't you hold your package?
[08:35] <intelikey> oh i'm sorry mitja, i know nothing about the 64 bit stuff, and was just making an observation on the live cd's
[08:35] <Corrupter> whats build-essential
[08:35] <mrkoje> Mitja --  I'm not familiar with the DVD but does it contain a intall image taht you might have to burn?
[08:35] <intelikey> Corrupter you trying to install a source deb ?
[08:35] <Mitja> mrkoje, yes, the file I just posted: ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[08:35] <Madpilot> robotgeek: why don't I what my what?
[08:35] <Corrupter> i'm trying to install apache
[08:35] <mrkoje> I don't see why they would that though...
[08:36] <revfrsanctus> can anyone help me with an error code 17 on grub?
[08:36] <mrkoje> so you burned the image then... and
[08:36] <mrkoje> hmm
[08:36] <intelikey> hmmm  oh then it is not building source.... Corrupter idk then.
[08:36] <robotgeek> Madpilot: you can ask a particular package not to be upgraded
[08:36] <Madpilot> Corrupter: apache is in the Ubuntu repos, no need for seperate debs
[08:36] <Corrupter> debs? i'm just trying to install it from apache, it's not installing
[08:37] <intelikey> what command did you issue ?
[08:37] <Corrupter> sudo apt-get install apache
[08:37] <Corrupter> but nvm now, i got it
[08:37] <intelikey> and it was ?
[08:39] <Latone> I think I need to add repositories first before I could add apache ... hehe I love documentation
[08:40] <robotgeek> Latone: nope
[08:40] <Latone> okay then .. I was wrong 8)
[08:40] <Madpilot> Latone: apache2 is in main, so you're OK - I think all the packages you'll need are, actually
[08:41] <intelikey> speak of
[08:42] <Latone> well I got apache install so I did something right
[08:44] <Corrupter> why is gnome in my installation previews when i'm running gnome right now...?
[08:45] <Mitja> Is anyone using a amd64 version from a DVD?
[08:46] <Mitja> All I get is a live session and I don't know how to install from it.
[08:46] <aftertaf> Mitja:  dont you have an option on boot ?
[08:47] <Mitja> aftertaf, I believe not, it goes straight to language selection
[08:47] <Mitja> aftertaf, but I can check it again...
[08:47] <Corrupter> *installs gnome*
[08:47] <Corrupter> *while using... gnome*
[08:47] <Mitja> where should the option be displayed?
[08:48] <aftertaf> i dont know... :/
[08:48] <Latone> how come when it trys to get connect and install php4 it is connect to 1.0.0.0?
[08:50] <intelikey> Mitja is this what you got http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso  ?
[08:51] <Mitja> intelikey, yes
[08:51] <Mitja> intelikey, no
[08:51] <Mitja> intelikey, sorry, I got this: ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[08:51] <intelikey> hmmm idk  *shrugs*
[08:51] <intelikey> oh
[08:51] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <intelikey> ah ok.
[08:52] <ebaad> hello everybody
[08:52] <Corrupter> hi
[08:52] <ebaad> this is my first time on the forum
[08:52] <n0dl> how do i shut down in command line>
[08:52] <Mitja> after I realized that the one you suggested won't work - couldn't read remaining packages
[08:52] <Corrupter> exit
[08:52] <robotgeek> n0dl: sudo shutdown -h now
[08:53] <Corrupter> oh, in command line as a UI...
[08:53] <intelikey> it says that is a combo install and live  there may be an option at boot time Mitja   boot it and hit [F1]   and read.
[08:53] <Latone> where do I find my group name?
[08:53] <ebaad> jus wanted to ask if anybody has setup the imagemagik server
[08:53] <Mitja> intelikey, ok, thanks
[08:53] <intelikey> np
[08:54] <ebaad> its like http://localhost/gallery
[08:54] <ebaad> i tried it yesterday and was able to get it to work partially
[08:54] <intelikey> Latone 'groups'
[08:54] <robotgeek> ebaad: what program are you trying to get running?
[08:55] <kpde7> command
[08:55] <xukun> is there a tool to see the harddrive temperature?
[08:55] <robotgeek> xukun: there's a package you need to install
[08:55] <ebaad> let me see I install it from ubuntu repositories
[08:55] <arnducky> xukun, that depends on your motherboard
[08:55] <intelikey> not unless it has heat sinsor on it.
[08:55] <agtnz> Speaking of groups, which group do I add myself to so I can reboot / shutdown without a password? Is that even a group thing? :S
[08:56] <n0dl> whoever told me that command sudo shutdown -h doesnt work
[08:56] <robotgeek> xukun: sudo apt-get install hddtemp
[08:56] <n0dl> does anyone know how to shutdown in command line?
[08:56] <robotgeek> n0dl: did you include the now?
[08:56] <intelikey> agtnz no it is not
[08:56] <robotgeek> n0dl: 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[08:56] <n0dl> oh ok
[08:56] <n0dl> thanx robotgeek
[08:56] <kpde7> cc
[08:56] <intelikey> n0dl sudo init 0
[08:56] <robotgeek> n0dl: sure
[08:56] <ebaad> u can see if u can access it at http://67.181.129.148/gallery
[08:56] <n0dl> imma sleep
[08:56] <robotgeek> intelikey: :)
[08:56] <n0dl> byebye
[08:56] <_mdp> how can i install fonts that support ansi for xterm?
[08:57] <agtnz> intelikey: ok, how do I stop it prompting me for my password?
[08:57] <xukun> robotgeek, thanks
[08:57] <arnducky> There are packages that can poll system instrumentation, but the hardware system must provide this functionality (and have it turned on)to begin with.
[08:57] <robotgeek> ebaad: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[08:57] <intelikey> robotgeek wont yours reboot rather than power down ?
[08:57] <ebaad> i also have the streaming server at http://67.181.129.148:8888
[08:57] <robotgeek> intelikey: mine works fine.
[08:57] <xukun> arnducky, how I see know if my motherboard supports this?
[08:58] <ebaad> the streaming server works just fine
[08:58] <arnducky> apt-cache search acpi | grep power > foo.search && vi -R foo.search
[08:58] <_mdp> any help with this error? urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one using -fn, aborting.
[08:58] <robotgeek> ebaad: no junoon :(
[08:58] <intelikey> agtnz you add the line to sudoers that allows you to halt/reboot without passwd.
[08:59] <arnducky> xukun, your manual (RTFM!  hehehe) or check the CMOS settings when you boot.
[08:59] <robotgeek> _mdp: you apparently have type the font name correctly :)
[08:59] <_mdp> but i did, it can't recognize it though (for some unapparent reason?)
[08:59] <_mdp> i've tried many fonts (i need one with full ansi support)
[09:00] <agtnz> intelikey: thanks got it
[09:00] <ebaad> rob: no junoon???? u mean no clue
[09:00] <robotgeek> _mdp: try, urxvt -fn "xft:Monospace:pixelsize=15"
[09:01] <ebaad> my gallery server does not recognize the img files in the directory i pointed it to
[09:01] <arnducky> xukun, what is your architecture (i.e IBM PC compatible 'i386' including ia64; amd64; _or_ Apple; _or_ other)?
[09:01] <robotgeek> ebaad: i meant you have songs from the band Junoon
[09:01] <paganini> I wonder if anyone can help me to eject my DVD drive. :)
[09:01] <ebaad> may be i will have to install and configure it again
[09:01] <paganini> I'm running Breezy now, but it did this in Hoary as well.
[09:01] <robotgeek> ebaad: if you need to install imagemagick, sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[09:01] <ebaad> oh not now but I can upload them if you want them
[09:01] <xukun> arnducky, i386
[09:01] <ebaad> how do u know junoon
[09:02] <paganini> When I put a DVD or CD in the drive it mounts fine, and a little icon appears on my desktop that allows me to do intersting things with my DVD
[09:02] <intelikey> alternitivly agtnz you could set inittab so that ctrlaltdel is power down rather than reboot.....   that would be my fix :)
[09:02] <robotgeek> ebaad: sudo apt-get install imagemagick jhead unzip libjpeg-progs
[09:02] <paganini> But if I right click on that icon and tell it to "eject"
[09:02] <paganini> It says unable to eject media.
[09:02] <robotgeek> ebaad: one of my fav bands :)
[09:02] <paganini> And tells me I have to be root
[09:02] <ebaad> cool
[09:02] <paganini> Obviously, in ubuntu, I can't be root.
[09:02] <arnducky> Most likely, you can access your BIOS by hitting the Delete key before or duting the system POST (at power on or reboot time).
[09:02] <ebaad> have u listened to Vital Sign group
[09:02] <arnducky> Some systems use Escape'
[09:02] <paganini> So, is there anyway to get the icon to work right, or am I gonna have to keep doing sudo umount in a terminal to get my discs out of the drive?
[09:03] <intelikey> obviously in ubuntu i can be root.
[09:03] <_mdp> robotgeek: is there any way i can have it preload that fontset each time?
[09:03] <agtnz> intelikey: halfway thru visudo'ing atm - this'll do
[09:03] <arnducky> Toshiba laptops use Escape, then Alt-F1
[09:03] <ebaad> and also Jawad ahmed
[09:03] <robotgeek> _mdp: you can either put it in your .Xdefaults, or put alias urxvt to that
[09:03] <arnducky> (or Escape, then just 'F1')
[09:03] <robotgeek> ebaad: /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:03] <ebaad> can i view your profile
[09:04] <_mdp> robotgeek: thanks
[09:04] <ebaad> oh ok
[09:04] <intelikey> you have a symlink /cdrom paganini   and  /dev/cdrom  ?
[09:04] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell paganini about sudo
[09:04] <paganini> I have a symlink /media/cdrom0
[09:04] <intelikey> agtnz k
[09:04] <paganini> And a /dev/dvd
[09:04] <atrolinux> Corrupter, :p
[09:05] <Corrupter> wtf?
[09:05] <robotgeek> paganini: also try 'sudo eject /dev/<cdrom device>' , that also works
[09:05] <atrolinux> Corrupter, this is me on a wireless connection in ubuntu
[09:05] <xukun> what is a reasonable temperature for harddisk?. mine is /dev/hdb: SAMSUNG SP0802N: 45C
[09:05] <Corrupter> lol
[09:05] <Corrupter> congratulations
[09:05] <Corrupter> i'm glad it worked
[09:05] <paganini> Robotgeek, it works fine in a terminal.
[09:05] <arnducky> Other systems (very raare) use '-' (minus) or any of the aforementioned key + a meta key (Ctrl, or Alt or (Ctrl or Alt)+Shift)
[09:05] <robotgeek> paganini: then?
[09:05] <paganini> The point is I have this little icon with an "eject" option that doesn't work.
[09:05] <paganini> I want it to work.
[09:05] <paganini> I don't want to have to use a terminal
[09:06] <Zukero> paganini : then don't use linux :p
[09:06] <robotgeek> paganini: it works for me
[09:06] <robotgeek> Zukero: not the right attitude bro
[09:06] <robotgeek> paganini: which icon? gnome?
[09:06] <paganini> Yeah
[09:06] <intelikey> paganini no /dev/cdrom ?   it may be looking for that,  to eject.     eject doesn't really care what the device is as long as it finds it.
[09:06] <paganini> intelikey, it doesn't have trouble finding the device.
[09:07] <paganini> It says that only root can eject it.
[09:07] <robotgeek> paganini: did you mount it as root?
[09:07] <paganini> It automounts when I put it in the drive.
[09:07] <robotgeek> paganini: or did you use pmount (the right answer)?
[09:07] <paganini> So, I assume so.
[09:07] <rohan> hi all
[09:07] <Zukero> robotgeek : i think that you need to know how to use a terminal to use linux, maybe within 2 or 3 years you'll be able to never use a terminal and convert any basic windows user to switch to open source software
[09:07] <rohan> which kernel configuration option, when built as a module, has the name "dm_mod" ?
[09:08] <Zukero> that was my point
[09:08] <intelikey> paganini lets see the line in your /etc/fstab that describes this device ?
[09:08] <robotgeek> paganini: can you try this thing for me. Right click on your panel, and add drive mount applet
[09:08] <Corrupter> using terminal isn't hard
[09:08] <arnducky> xukun, search google or the manuyfacturer's webstie for the model number of your hard disk.  The operating specifications (including temputature ranges) will be given.  Generally, 45 deg. C is unusually host for an ATA HDD, but not at the hysterisis limit yet.   This of course depends on the specific model.
[09:08] <paganini> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user  0       0
[09:08] <Corrupter> it's just when you first look at it it's so damn intimidating
[09:08] <atrolinux> Zukero, I think you need to know how to use the command prompt to use windows properly too... what percentage of windows users actually know how though?
[09:08] <arnducky> host = hot
[09:08] <robotgeek> Zukero: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:09] <sethk> Corrupter, it's nut sooo itimidatin if youse can typp god
[09:09] <Corrupter> meesa knos wut yuo maen
[09:09] <xukun> arnducky, thanks
[09:10] <arnducky> I have no sound on my fresh Ubuntu 5.1 + kubuntu install with alsa, esd, and oss drivers and the art sound daemon installed. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this, please.
[09:10] <paganini> When I use the drive mounter applet to eject the CD, it says the same thing
[09:10] <paganini> I think that my user account needs to be a member of some group that I don't know about
[09:10] <arnducky> xukun, NP.   BTW, whaqt is ambient temp?
[09:10] <topyli> the gnome-bluetooth home page says sending files should be handled with nautilus-sendto. however, i get no such option
[09:10] <Corrupter> when you first looka t linux, it seems fairly easy, then you start seeing stuff about typing in commands and everybody thinks "oh god!!!" cuz EVERYONE who has used Windows has had a bad experience with DOS at one point in their life, so they're sure they're going to screw something up
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> At McDonald's, they have a special where you can choose three items, from a list of 10 different selections.  It is fine to choose any combination, including three of the same thing.  How many unique combinations can be made?
[09:11] <Corrupter> Linux is ALMOST idiotproof, it just requires you to have a good memory or write everything down
[09:11] <robotgeek> Corrupter: apropos and man are your friends :)
[09:11] <rohan> BROKEN_LADDER: ask on #math
[09:11] <arnducky> And DON"T do  # rm -rf /
[09:11] <arnducky> Corrupter
[09:11] <anavim> Corrupter, the more powerful an OS is, the less idiot-proof it is..
[09:11] <arnducky> ;-)
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> rohan enjoy solving it.
[09:11] <rixth> How can I take a video of what is occuring on my screen?
[09:11] <intelikey> groups
[09:12] <Chousuke> anavim: no OS is idiot-proof. :P
[09:12] <Chousuke> (at all)
[09:12] <topyli> Corrupter: it's true that dos experience makes it more difficult to realize the power of a real shell
[09:12] <Corrupter> well, by idiot-proof i mean, if you f*ck it up, stick in the disk, make it re-install and poof, all fixed :-D
[09:12] <sethk> topyli, not for me.  I've always loaded a real shell into every windows system I've worked on, first thing.
[09:12] <paganini> Maybe the real question I should be asking here is, what software automounts CDs and DVDs?
[09:12] <arnducky> idiots are very resourcefull whenit comes to breaking (or just plain misunderstanding) systems
[09:12] <Chousuke> Corrupter: re-install is not a solution ./
[09:12] <paganini> Can I get it to run as a user, rather than as root?
[09:13] <robotgeek> paganini: gnome-volume-manager
[09:13] <Chousuke> it destroys the problem.
[09:13] <rohan> where do i search kernel modules vis-a-vis the configuration options ? i am looking for a module called "dm_mod"
[09:13] <Chousuke> instead of fixing it.
 anavim: no OS is idiot-proof. <---- hehhe if it was only an idot would use it  8-] 
[09:13] <topyli> sethk: sure, you can have bash. i know i do :)
[09:13] <paganini> I have a program called gnome-volume-control, would that be it?
[09:13] <Corrupter> i disagree
[09:13] <sethk> topyli, zsh is much much much better
[09:13] <Corrupter> thats how i've learned everything i've learned on my own about Windows
[09:13] <arnducky> topyli, I learned DOS batch scripting right away when learning PC-DOS/MS-DOS
[09:13] <Chousuke> what is?
[09:13] <Corrupter> "hey, that completely destroys the operating system, better not do THAT again" *re-installs*
[09:14] <Chousuke> aha. :P
[09:14] <rohan> sethk: you know what was the problem with that theme' .tar.gz ?
[09:14] <topyli> sethk: whichever shell you like
[09:14] <sethk> rohan, tell
[09:14] <robotgeek> paganini: no, gnome-volume-manager , no volume-control
[09:14] <sethk> topyli, :)
[09:14] <Chousuke> zsh lacks unicode support :(
[09:14] <robotgeek> paganini: type gnome-volume-manager in a terminal
[09:14] <arnducky> topyli, in my case it gave me a wide outlook on 'shell power' (I had GW Basic too).
[09:14] <anavim> yay, new kernel.  time to reboot
[09:14] <topyli> arnducky: yeah, and during your batch processes the shell was busy :)
[09:14] <rohan> sethk: it was not in a format the "gdmsetup" likes. it wanted the files to be in a folder, and that folder tarred, and that tar gziped. the theme i was looking at was not that way.
[09:15] <topyli> <d xh
[09:15] <robotgeek> paganini: then apt-get install gnome-volume-manager
[09:15] <topyli> <d
[09:15] <intelikey> i reinstall twice a weak whether i need to or not....
[09:15] <Chousuke> It's stupid that there are many good tools and then some awesome tools that lack one feature you need.
[09:15] <arnducky> topyli, finding UNIX was a big improvement, but DOS never gave me a 'bad taste'
[09:15] <sethk> rohan, _very_ misleading error message
[09:15] <topyli> arnducky: which is not really the shell's fault
[09:15] <paganini> Robotgeek; ok, I will try that.
[09:15] <rohan> sethk: i agree :(
[09:15] <paganini> But, something is autmounting my CDs and DVDs right now, and I don't have gnome-volume-manager
[09:15] <paganini> What could it be?
[09:16] <Chousuke> Hmm. I started using computers in a command line environment.
[09:16] <sethk> rohan, even in a world of misleading error messages ...
[09:16] <Corrupter> so did i
[09:16] <Chousuke> I wonder how many of today's CS kiddies can say the same.
[09:16] <rohan> sethk: ya. seemed as if my disk was full / mounted read only :(
[09:16] <arnducky> topyli, multiple DOS shells were available except for when a process needed the 'x-server'
[09:16] <sethk> choudesh, so did I.  There wasn't anything else.  On a 110 baud tty you didn't do graphics.  :)
[09:16] <Corrupter> i was using a Tandy when i was 10 years old... my parents got it for 25 bucks at a yard sale and thought it would help me in school
[09:16] <intelikey> you can add me to the cli'r list
[09:16] <sethk> Corrupter, cp/m?
[09:16] <Chousuke> people start with the GUI and become clueless windows-dependent mouse-clickers.
[09:16] <Corrupter> figured out how to do basics on that PC, when i got Windows 98, i nearly collapsed
[09:17] <romeoleger123> hello evryone who s your daddy
[09:17] <arnducky> That was a big limitation, but not one that every slowed me down personally, since I wasn't that advanced and/or graphically inclined in what I wanted/needed/tried to do.
[09:17] <topyli> so. gnome-bluetooth users, do you get a bluetooth option in nautilus-sendto. i don't even though it's mentioned in the documentation
[09:18] <Sonderblade> ubuntu updated my kernel, cool
[09:18] <paganini> Well
[09:18] <robotgeek> romeoleger123: this is a support forum
[09:18] <paganini> Gnome Volume Manager seems to have fixed everything
[09:18] <paganini> Thanks robotgeek
[09:18] <Corrupter> what is xine?
[09:18] <Sonderblade> any issues with 2.6.12.16 and nvidia binary drivers?
[09:18] <yatesy> forum? =)
[09:18] <intelikey> click mouse in linux cli to write  that
[09:18] <intelikey> gpm
[09:18] <yatesy> Corrupter: a video player
[09:19] <robotgeek> paganini: it's weird, it should have been there by default
[09:19] <paganini> Yeah, strange
[09:19] <robotgeek> paganini: well, as long as it works :)
[09:19] <paganini> Hehe, yep!
[09:20] <Mabus06> what's the easiest way to make a data dvd from an iso?
[09:20] <arnducky> Anybody see *my* help question?
[09:20] <intelikey> arnducky and no multi-consoles  but we didn't know we were missing them at the time......
[09:20] <arnducky> Well, intelikey thgere were terminal servers.... (heh)
[09:20] <wickedpuppy> Mabus06, data dvd from iso ? you got to burn iso as an image .. not data
[09:21] <Mabus06> wickedpuppy, well how
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> Mabus06, using which program ?
[09:21] <arnducky> VP7400's (like ANSI VT100/102/200)
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> i can help you with k3b ...
[09:21] <intelikey> i never had one on a 286
[09:21] <Mabus06> wickedpuppy, I use gnome
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> Mabus06, so do i ...
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> lol
[09:22] <intelikey> arnducky what was your Q ?
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> using gnome doesn't mean you can't use kde stuff
[09:22] <arnducky> I'd like some sound conf help... I'll repost:
[09:22] <arnducky> I have no sound on my fresh Ubuntu 5.1 + kubuntu install with alsa, esd, and oss drivers and the art sound daemon installed. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this, please.
[09:22] <intelikey> alsamixer
[09:23] <crimsun> arnducky: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:23] <arnducky> I've had ALSA, OSS, work on Debian (emu10k SB card and c-media onboard chipset)
[09:23] <robotgeek> arnducky: you are lucky. crimsun is the sound guru :)
[09:23] <nxv_> hi, i have an alias for aterm in my .bashrc but when i start aterm in gnome alt+f2 aterm it doesn't use such settings :(
[09:24] <arnducky> TY, crimsun (logged on during the enlightened(tm) duration of your 'shift' did I?)
[09:24] <arnducky> =oD
[09:24] <intelikey> it doesn't read your .bashrc most likely.  put the alias in /etc/profile maybe nxv_
[09:24] <robotgeek> nxv_: you can set default aterm properties in ~/.Xdefaults
[09:25] <arnducky> cat /proc/asound/cards > asound.cards.proc
[09:25] <intelikey> or check ./bash_profile maybe nxv_, not sure about it.
[09:25] <arnducky> crimsun, where's the pastebin?
[09:25] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell arnducky about pastebin
[09:25] <crimsun> topic.
[09:26] <arnducky> (Vendor ID strings for both cards are there)
[09:26] <wickedpuppy> .bashrc is read alright ... but i only store bash settings
[09:26] <arnducky> crimsun, right, read it, now how do I use dapper -- hehehe?
[09:26] <crimsun> arnducky: come again?
[09:26] <sabmann> I'm using eclipse for java development but it's very laggy under ubuntu, anyone got tips making it run faster?
[09:27] <arnducky>  /TOPIC
[09:27] <robotgeek> nxv_: my .Xdefaults is at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4907
[09:27] <LinuxN00bie> hi
[09:27] <intelikey> wickedpuppy .bashrc is read from aterm ?
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> sabmann, yah ... add more ram
[09:27] <sabmann> lol 512 not enough?
[09:27] <LinuxN00bie> NoUse, about the synaptic segfault a while ago...
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, bashrc is read by bash ... no matter which terminal
[09:27] <crimsun> arnducky: I need the output from the command I gave you.
[09:27] <arnducky>  <j/k>  (sort of, I really don't know how to use dapper, but I take it, it's a package management tools from)
[09:27] <nxv_> thx robotgeek
[09:27] <arnducky> Aye, aye, sir!
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> sabmann, eclipse is slow compared to ? to me all java apps are slow
[09:28] <LinuxN00bie> NoUse, i didn't change my RAMs, but i modified the sources.list file
[09:28] <LinuxN00bie> and comment every line of the "universe" repositories
[09:28] <sabmann> wickedpuppy, my computer is a dualboot system. On Winxp pro I use eclipse and it's way faster
[09:28] <LinuxN00bie> synaptic runs again
[09:28] <arnducky> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4908  Captain Crimsun, Sir!
[09:28] <intelikey> wickedpuppy .bashrc is not read if sh rather than bash is called, i don't think.   i have noticed that some shells don't have my customizations from .bashrc in them.
[09:28] <Corrupter> where can i find network drives?
[09:28] <arnducky> Arrrgh.
[09:29] <intelikey> or terms i mean   not shells ^
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, sh then its not bash anymore :P i assume aterm he asks is calling bash and bash alone
[09:29] <sabmann> Corrupter, look in the 'places' menu for Network servers
[09:29] <arnducky> Crimsun would you like to see lspci or dmesg output?
[09:29] <base> ??
[09:30] <intelikey> but you know sh is a symlink to bash.....
[09:30] <wickedpuppy> sabmann, that no idea ... you added more plugins i suppose ??
[09:30] <crimsun> arnducky: which sound device do you want to use?
[09:30] <Corrupter> anybody know anything about gmailfs?
[09:30] <intelikey> or dash in some cases maybe......    that may be part of it....
[09:31] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, yup ... well in that case .bashrc should be read ... or /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile ...
[09:31] <sabmann> wickedpuppy, well maybe you're right. I installed eclipse with apt-get, but in Win I just extracted the zip package downloaded from eclipse.org
[09:31] <nxv_> do i have to restart X to make .Xdefaults changes valid?
[09:31] <sabmann> maybe apt-get uses preinstalled plugins
[09:31] <intelikey> yes the ones in /etc are but for some reason not always ./.bash<blah>
[09:31] <robotgeek> nxv_: yup
[09:31] <wickedpuppy> sabmann, yup yup ... :P
[09:31] <marc> nxv_: nope
[09:31] <nxv_> ok, brb
[09:32] <robotgeek> marc: really?
[09:32] <nxv_> marc: no? so why are my changes not taken into account, when starting a new aterm?
[09:32] <Corrupter> what would happen if i uninstalled gnome?
[09:32] <marc> robotgeek: xrdb -merge .Xdefaults
[09:32] <sabmann> wickedpuppy, I'll take a look
[09:32] <topyli> Corrupter: you would be gnomeless
[09:32] <robotgeek> marc: ah, I learnt something new today
[09:32] <nxv_> marc: nice 8)
[09:32] <marc> yay!
[09:33] <Corrupter> lol, well i'm using gnome... and then i installed gnome... and now i have 300 les MB than i should for no reason and i want it back!!!
[09:33] <base> does ubunto use rpms?
[09:33] <sabmann> Corrupter, lol
[09:33] <topyli> base: no
[09:33] <base> didnt think so
[09:33] <wickedpuppy> you are using gnome and you installed gnome ...
[09:33] <topyli> base: debs, debian packages
[09:33] <wickedpuppy> base, .deb
[09:34] <base> apt-get install
[09:34] <intelikey> Corrupter why did you install gnome ?
[09:34] <crimsun> arnducky: ?
[09:34] <Corrupter> well... it was there... and... i wanted to see what it would do if i installed it
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> Corrupter, so you seen it ?
[09:34] <intelikey> eat 300m hd space .....  :)
[09:34] <Corrupter> what do you mean seen it?
[09:34] <z1on> help, I just installed ubuntu 5.1, rebooted, OK... now it says "Installing Packages" and it's been sitting there for a long time at 0%
[09:34] <base> ?
[09:34] <nxv_> how can i get the whole windows displayed when tabbing through it (alt+tab) instead of only the border?
[09:35] <Corrupter> i typed in sudo apt-get install kde and then i was like "i wonder if gnome is here" so i typed it in and then it went through with installing gnome
[09:35] <Janeway> good morning
[09:35] <arnducky> The second one -- emu101k (but support for both would be nice) The bazillion apps & tools that come with KDE seem to see both (or at least sees three devices 'SigmaTel STAC9708,11(OSS Mixer)' is the third. Of four options with three devices -- the C-media device options list both ALSA and OSS to give four total
[09:35] <Corrupter> i'm on a 3.2 GB partition, i need my 300MB!!!
[09:35] <quantum> anyone know a workaround for a problem i have
[09:35] <z1on> Corrupter: eh, apt-get remove gnome
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> Corrupter, if you wanna know .. check in synaptic or apt-cache search .... i don't know why you need to install something to see if its there
[09:36] <intelikey> janeway ?   wasn't that a startrek char. ?
[09:36] <topyli> Corrupter: gnome is a metapackage, depending on a whole lot of gnome packages. if you remove it, you save 0 bits
[09:36] <arnducky> crimsun, I also have an 'original'  Radeon AIW int his box which has sound ports
[09:36] <base> where do i find install packages for ubunto?
[09:36] <Corrupter> i noticed that
[09:36] <anavim> curl appears to be completely dead on my system, even after reconfigure.  does anyone know another tool which does HTTPPUT?
[09:36] <Corrupter> i didn't want to see if it was there, i wanted to see how big it was
[09:36] <Corrupter> kde is about 500 MB
[09:36] <quantum> base what's your prob with synaptic? it is a database for packages
[09:36] <crimsun> arnducky: I'm still awaiting an answer to my question
[09:36] <sabmann> base, type sudo synaptic
[09:36] <arnducky> I thought I did.
[09:36] <topyli> base: your package manager should find them for you
[09:36] <Corrupter> gnome is about 300, the only difference being, kde asked if i wanted to install, gnome didn't, it just kept going till it was done
[09:36] <Corrupter> it raped my PC!!!
[09:36] <arnducky> REPOST: The second one -- emu101k (but support for both would be nice) The bazillion apps & tools that come with KDE seem to see both (or at least sees three devices 'SigmaTel STAC9708,11(OSS Mixer)' is the third. Of four options with three devices -- the C-media device options list both ALSA and OSS to give four total
[09:36] <Janeway> inelikey: yep (and the first female captain)
[09:37] <base> it doesnt have the packages i want and if it does they have errors
[09:37] <arnducky> i.e. the SB Live! card
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> Corrupter, you could have done ctrl-c ..
[09:37] <z1on> help, I just installed ubuntu 5.1, rebooted, OK... now it says "Installing Packages" and it's been sitting there for a long time at 0%.. what's it trying to do?
[09:37] <Janeway> I'm just trying to figure out my way round breezy
[09:37] <abishek> hi,i installed the w32 codecs pack ,but still totem is not able to play mp3 and mpg,can anybody help
[09:37] <Corrupter> wuzzat?
[09:37] <arnducky> Aye, ready. Aye!
[09:37] <quantum> i cannot type a doubledot in dosbox
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> tell abishek about mp3
[09:37] <crimsun> arnducky: are you using GNOME or KDE? It's very easy in GNOME and more problematic in KDE.
[09:37] <typewriter> theres no mplayer in ubuntu repository??
[09:37] <quantum> ascii-code?
[09:37] <Amaranth> abishek: install totem-xine
[09:37] <arnducky> KDE
[09:37] <zorba64> !mp3
[09:37] <ubotu> to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:37] <abishek> how to
[09:37] <Janeway> where can I find help on how to install programs?
[09:37] <Amaranth> typewriter: it's in multiverse
[09:38] <typewriter> come again.. im coming from debian...
[09:38] <typewriter> never heard of multiverse
[09:38] <arnducky> crimsun, I'd like command line (with no DE initialized) and SDL support too if possible
[09:38] <Janeway> maybe I should add I'm a complete newbie (however, installing breezy worked just fine)
[09:38] <abishek> i followed the instruction in the restricted formats section
[09:38] <crimsun> arnducky: in a Konsole, echo "options snd-cmipci index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[09:38] <intelikey> Janeway synaptic is the gui package installer for ub
[09:39] <Amaranth> Janeway: what do you want to install?
[09:39] <intelikey> in the system menu
[09:39] <dducko> ubotu tell Janeway about synaptic
[09:39] <abishek> Amaranth: what's totem xine
[09:39] <Janeway> Amaranth: I'm trying to download and install GAIM for a start
[09:39] <Amaranth> abishek: It makes totem use the xine engine, which works with w32codecs.
[09:39] <dducko> You already have Gaim
[09:39] <intelikey> Janeway don't dl it.
[09:39] <crimsun> arnducky: just install libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[09:39] <dducko> Aplications-Internet its there
[09:40] <Janeway> been browsing the forums for a while, but I soon got lost :(
[09:40] <abishek> Amaranth: i'm online via windows ,where do i download xine
[09:40] <dducko> otherwise use Synaptic to install programs
[09:40] <quantum> anyone managed to type a "doubledot" in dosbox...this annoying quirk makes me unable to use it
[09:40] <intelikey> Janeway use the package installer 'synaptic'  and install it from there.   no need to dl it.
[09:40] <Corrupter> gnome raped my PC and gave it a 300 MB baby it didn't want...
[09:40] <Amaranth> abishek: it's the totem-xine package
[09:41] <Amaranth> abishek: don't you have internet access on ubuntu?
[09:41] <intelikey> !tell Janeway about reops
[09:41] <LinuxN00bie> abishek, in ubuntu, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[09:41] <arnducky> Aye Capt. crimsun.  Yes Capt. crimsun, that pkg is installed, sir.  And may this humble sailor-penguin ask what the  last command does, Sir?
[09:41] <intelikey> !tell Janeway about repos
[09:41] <quantum> amaranth he could use gxine which is a standalone gui for xine
[09:41] <topyli> Corrupter: if you tell apt to install gnome, it will install it. why are you complaining? if you have packages you don't want, remove them
[09:41] <Amaranth> quantum: that doesn't have a mozilla plugin
[09:41] <Janeway> intelikey: ok - and where do I find synaptic?
[09:41] <abishek> Amaranth: nope my modem's a conexant hcf
[09:41] <Amaranth> quantum: and totem works nicer
[09:41] <Amaranth> abishek: ouch, mine too
[09:41] <intelikey> system menu
[09:42] <Corrupter> how do i tell someone something?
[09:42] <abishek> Amaranth: ur online via windows too
[09:42] <Corrupter> pm them
[09:42] <egonw> hi all, upgrade question: I get this error: "Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.12-10.24) .. evms_open_engine() failed with error code 13: Permission denied. cpio: ./lib/evms/disk*: No such file or directory" when ugrading my 2.6.12 amd64 k8 smp kernel... that's serious right?
[09:42] <Janeway> got it
[09:42] <robotgeek> crimsun: the 'tee' is nice. i'm learning new things today :). i tht that sudo sh -c was the only way (which iread up in the sudo manual)
[09:42] <Amaranth> abishek: yeah
[09:42] <topyli> Corrupter: use /msg or /query. after asking for permission
[09:43] <quantum> someone must know how to type a doubledot in dosbox. i have heard of ascii codes, but how do they work?
[09:43] <abishek> Amaranth: i found the driver for my modem ,but a diff kernel version
[09:43] <Amaranth> abishek: the driver is 14.4k until you pay $20
[09:43] <quantum> i need to enter the mounted virtual disk but cannot
[09:44] <abishek> Amaranth: no i'm talking about free drivers
[09:44] <arnducky> Err, I beg your leave to correct myself, Cpt. crimsun.  I installed the ~-all 'Debian' SDL  package, not exactly the one you cited.  The ~-all pkg deinstalled the ~-alsa package.
[09:44] <quantum> probably the most stupid problem ever
[09:44] <Amaranth> abishek: there are none...
[09:44] <Amaranth> abishek: no legal ones that i've found, anyway
[09:44] <crimsun> arnducky: so install -alsa
[09:45] <arnducky> quantum, have you tried using the 'backslash carahcter' \
[09:45] <Amaranth> abishek: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/totem/totem-xine_1.2.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb should be what you want, but you need to get it's dependencies too
[09:45] <arnducky> as in \.\.
[09:45] <quantum> arnducky as in?
[09:45] <intelikey> Janeway there is a very good reason to always use the packages built for your ubuntu system,   the ones not built for it often cause trubble and can break things, besides being hard to install.
[09:45] <quantum> arnducky i'l give it a try right now
[09:45] <abishek> Amaranth:thanks a lot
[09:45] <arnducky> quantum to send reserved ASCII chars to the shell
[09:46] <Janeway> so if I want a messenger, which one would you recommend?
[09:46] <robotgeek> Janeway: gaim
[09:46] <LinuxN00bie> gaim
[09:46] <Amaranth> abishek: you have a PM
[09:46] <Corrupter> are there any AIM programs taht you can use in a command line
[09:47] <arnducky> crimsun, do you recommend the -alsa pkg as superior to the all or SDL pkgs whish bind the otehr drivers?
[09:47] <robotgeek> Corrupter: centericq
[09:47] <bjv> Corrupter: apt-cache search
[09:47] <Janeway> brrrrrr - I am such an idiot
[09:47] <arnducky> Also, crimsun, did you want the print from that echoed bash line?
[09:47] <crimsun> arnducky: the -alsa is preferable to the others, yes.
[09:47] <arnducky> (it killed two high pid# processes and loaded much stuffings)
[09:47] <Janeway> (just realized it came with breezy and is already up and working)
[09:48] <crimsun> arnducky: and no, I don't need the output
[09:48] <holycow> https://www.hamrick.com/reg.html  <-- very cool piece of software
[09:48] <holycow> commercial scanner app, runs as a user, just double click and go
[09:48] <arnducky> !invoke.rc
[09:48] <ubotu> arnducky: What?
[09:48] <robotgeek> Janeway: :)
[09:48] <quantum> arnducky so i have mou
[09:49] <arnducky> rc looks like a script -- is this a Ubuntu thing or common to all Linices(sic?)?
[09:49] <Amaranth> abishek: ?
[09:49] <abishek> Amaranth:try this http://hsf.szm.sk:80/
[09:49] <quantum> arnducky so the partition is mounted, but exactly what should i type for to act as the char
[09:49] <arnducky> quantum, I don't understand your question.
[09:49] <abishek> Amaranth: no i'm unreggd
[09:49] <quantum> arnducky i just need to get a c:
[09:50] <crimsun> arnducky: it's a Debian thing.
[09:50] <bjv> we just got pushed on to kernel 2.6.12-10.24
[09:50] <bjv> which means apt-get downloaded a 18mb 386 unoptimized kernel i will never use.
[09:50] <quantum> arnducky but it seems that is not found anywhere!
[09:50] <intelikey> last letters rc is linux common  config scripts....
[09:50] <quantum> arnducky the : part
[09:50] <bjv> is there any way to download, for instance a k7 optimized kernel, everytime a knew version gets pushed on us?
[09:50] <robotgeek> bjv: you can 'hold' your kernel, or any other package
[09:50] <bjv> thru apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:50] <anavim> hmm... curl seems to be failing because it's translating "www.google.com" as localhost... anyone seen this problem before?
[09:50] <crimsun> bjv: install linux-k7
[09:50] <arnducky> ahhh, sooo
[09:50] <Janeway> thanks intelikey (I'm not yet registered)
[09:51] <robotgeek> anavim: try http://www.google.com
[09:51] <intelikey> np
[09:51] <topyli> bjv: you have linux-386 or linux-image-386 installed and it always depends on the latest 386 kernel
[09:51] <abishek> Amaranth:where r u from
[09:51] <Amaranth> abishek: iowa, usa
[09:51] <anavim> robotgeek, that's too easy... no I tried that before also
[09:52] <robotgeek> anavim: heh, no i havent seen it then
[09:52] <anavim> oddly enough, it also translates IP addresses into localhost... weird
[09:52] <abishek> Amaranth:ur name sound indian,well i'm from tamil nadu,india
[09:52] <bjv> ah, true. but if i install linux-k7 it will remember to grab the k7 package every upgrade, too?
[09:52] <robotgeek> abishek: sowkyama :)
[09:52] <intelikey> hmmmm i have vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk installed  :)
[09:52] <bjv> cool.
[09:52] <arnducky> crimsun, will I have to add that command to cron/anacron or an initscript?
[09:52] <crimsun> arnducky: no, it's done.
[09:52] <abishek> Amaranth:all right a tamilian
[09:52] <crimsun> bjv: just installing it once is enough.
[09:53] <Amaranth> abishek: Lots of people say that. I don't suppose my name means anything.
[09:53] <anavim> abishek, Amaranth is a kind of grain
[09:54] <quantum> arnducky you know the scandinavian characters? in the us keyboard set in dos they are usually found when shift+a rises but in dosbox they are totally disabled
[09:54] <abishek> robotgeek:where r u from
[09:54] <Amaranth> that to
[09:54] <Amaranth> and a shade of blue
[09:54] <Amaranth> and a mythical flower that never wilts
[09:54] <abishek> Amaranth:one more question,i need to install c++ ,where do i dl
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> abishek, build-essential
[09:54] <robotgeek> abishek: born in chennai, grew up in hyd and now in tx
[09:54] <arnducky> "options snd-cmipci index=-2"  <-- did that change the priority of the c-media driver from 1 to 2?
[09:55] <Amaranth> abishek: that's a very large download
[09:55] <intelikey> you apt-get build-essentual abishek
[09:55] <crimsun> arnducky: to anything but the primary.
[09:55] <crimsun> arnducky: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:55] <abishek> Amaranth:do we get c++ dev in apt build essential
[09:55] <crimsun> yes, you do.
[09:55] <abishek> robotgeek: born in chennai,now in trichy
[09:55] <Amaranth> abishek: you need to get build-essential and all of it's dependencies
[09:55] <quantum> it is build-essential
[09:55] <robotgeek> abishek: kk
[09:56] <Amaranth> abishek: http://packages.ubuntu.com/build-essential
[09:56] <arnducky> Oh, wait!  A system .wav played when I closed a GUI window just now.  All I had before was the system beep (prpogress -- joy!)
[09:56] <crimsun> arnducky: then you're fine.
[09:56] <abishek> robotgeek:what r u doin
[09:56] <quantum> arnducky your problem is solved but my quirk is still troubling
[09:57] <robotgeek> abishek: /j #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:57] <quantum> arnducky a system wav would mean that you only need the player that works
[09:57] <arnducky> ~$ cat /proc/asound/modules > asound.module.proc
[09:57] <Janeway> thanks all, I'll be off now
[09:57] <Janeway> bye :)
[09:58] <crimsun> what? another Daniel from the Triad?
[09:58] <arnducky> You'd thinks so.  Hopefully all the other pipes are 'welded' to the right system flanges with the respective valves openeable
[09:58] <quantum> heh have i received a secret 5.10 since everything works fine..even my aureon 5.1 card
[09:58] <arnducky> quantum, I never play with ISO 8859 or even UTF char sets, so I don't really know how to help  =(
[09:58] <abishek> Amaranth:could you tell me what are the dependencies for mplayer and it's accessories
[09:58] <intelikey> ooops lost it down a pipe.....
[09:59] <Amaranth> abishek: http://packages.ubuntu.com can
[09:59] <LinuxN00bie> guys
[09:59] <quantum> arnducky well you did help..if it is the iso set in function, i should be able to find the ascii code on my own
[09:59] <arnducky> intelikey, I have a firewall that should stop use of net
[09:59] <intelikey> lol yeah
[09:59] <quantum> arnducky i was in the belief that this was something bisarre related to the keyboard hardware
[09:59] <LinuxN00bie> i fixed a new CD-ROM drive but linux won't detect it
[09:59] <LinuxN00bie> why??
[09:59] <arnducky> quantum, I think yoiu can cat a file on a standardLinux.UNIX box
[10:00] <quantum> arnducky i do have a brand new logitech deluxe finnish version
[10:00] <arnducky> updatedb &&locate iso | cat | grep charset
[10:00] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie what does 'i fixed a new CD-ROM drive' mean ?
[10:01] <quantum> =)
[10:01] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, it means i opened up my CPU casing and fix my drive there
[10:01] <arnducky> quantum, I jsut bought a Logitech EX110 and it's bugg too
[10:01] <quantum> arnducky really? curses on lt
[10:01] <abishek> Amaranth:where do i get a burning software
[10:01] <quantum> abishek how about typing cdrecord in the console?
[10:01] <Amaranth> abishek: depends on what you want to do
[10:01] <quantum> abishek it's very good and simple for simple tasks
[10:01] <Amaranth> abishek: ubuntu comes with some
[10:02] <intelikey> ok. LinuxN00bie is it on the primary or secondary ide or some scsi cable ????
[10:02] <quantum> abishek and the gui is found when you enter a blank disk
[10:02] <bjv> what is the name of the gnome keyboard shortcut deamon?
[10:02] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, primary
[10:02] <arnducky> I mean the KB syupport in my Debian is buggy and slightly buggy in UBunt (the Gentoo Live CD actually heard my web-backspace key as something
[10:02] <bjv> it;s like keybrdd or something.
[10:02] <Amaranth> abishek: if you want to do a data cd just put in a blank cd and a nautilus window should pop up. you drag files and folders into that window then choose file->burn
[10:02] <quantum> all thanks to cdrecord
[10:02] <abishek> Amaranth:is it just like nero
[10:02] <Amaranth> abishek: for audio cds it's Applications->Sound and Video->Serpitine
[10:03] <Amaranth> err, if i knew how to spell
[10:03] <Amaranth> abishek: err, much easier
[10:03] <arnducky> quantum, I think we need to find (or write) an 'xkb ruleset' for our version of X11 (Xorg or XFree86)
[10:03] <intelikey> k LinuxN00bie is it the only cdrom drive ?
[10:03] <quantum> arnducky blah my problem seems to be only dosbox-related .. :::::::
[10:03] <sabmann> my openoffice2 crashes when I type some chars, any suggestions? I'm running ubuntu breezy
[10:03] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, there's a cd writer on the secondary cable
[10:04] <arnducky> The system used to crash/freeze (or at least lose keyboard suppot) when I used it with the USB iface (with and without other ps/2 mice and kbds attached)
[10:04] <intelikey> ok in a terminal do 'ls /media '  and tell me how many times cdrom appears LinuxN00bie
[10:04] <quantum> linuxnoobie in the dev folder is your burner, and if it's the only one it's cdr1
[10:04] <quantum> linuxnoobie anyway..
[10:05] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie like cdrom0 cdrom1 .....  ?
[10:05] <indigirl1> i just installed a warty cd. how do i upgrade to the newest (breezy probably)?
[10:05] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0
[10:05] <arnducky> quantum -- I want all (or most of) my 'luser-stupid' shortcut keys to work -- especially the MM keys (e.g. volume, mute, play/pause....)
[10:05] <quantum> linuxnoobie yes but the burners are cdr1 cdr2
[10:05] <quantum> arnducky that could cause major problems
[10:06] <quantum> arnducky i don't really like shortcut keys
[10:06] <intelikey> ok LinuxN00bie in the terminal do 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1 '
[10:06] <nepali_> room, how can I make gnome-network monitor added in the gnome panel by default for new users ..
[10:06] <sabmann> my openoffice2 crashes when I type some chars, any suggestions? I'm running ubuntu breezy
[10:06] <quantum> arnducky but the ones in the zippy el worked fine out of the box
[10:06] <bjv> Question: what is the name of the Gnome keyboard shortcut deamon?
[10:06] <indigirl1> crimsun, youre in triad?
[10:06] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, ok...done it
[10:06] <arnducky> Nahhh.. just some mime + application mapping I'm guessing (call me an optimist)
[10:06] <intelikey> k LinuxN00bie in a terminal type 'sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 '
[10:06] <bjv> i cant seem to find it on my system.
[10:06] <arnducky> 'zippy el'?
[10:07] <quantum> arnducky zippy electro-luminescent keyboard
[10:07] <arnducky> heh
[10:07] <quantum> arnducky it's a glowing keyboard with sleep and power shortcuts =)
[10:07] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, user@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom1
[10:07] <quantum> arnducky just a moment..
[10:07] <LinuxN00bie> mount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist
[10:07] <crimsun> indigirl1: Greensboro.
[10:07] <intelikey> hmmm ok
[10:08] <arnducky> I just want to use my kbd as a remote (seeing as it';s 27 Mhz wireless) without going shopping for blueteeth.
[10:08] <linuxboy> is there a channel for the ubuntu backports ?
[10:08] <indigirl1> wow. im in winston. my bro lives in gbo
[10:08] <bjv> indigirl1: there is a file /etc/apt/sources.list that contains the names of the repos
[10:08] <bjv> you should be able to just change all the words 'warty'  to 'breezy'     then   apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -y      as root.
[10:08] <crimsun> linuxboy: no, but there is a mailing list
[10:08] <Mitja> I want to install Opera, but it says "Archive type not supported" although I downloaded specifically for Breezy Badger. How can I get it installed?
[10:08] <Amaranth> no!
[10:08] <linuxboy> crimsun: how busy is it ?
[10:08] <crimsun> indigirl1: getting kinda cool outdoors, eh?
[10:09] <crimsun> linuxboy: no idea.
[10:09] <quantum> arnducky http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=0783
[10:09] <Amaranth> bjv: You have to upgrade to hoary, then breezy
[10:09] <bjv> so no one knows the name of the gnome keyboard shortcut deamon?
[10:09] <linuxboy> crimsun: thanks
[10:09] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie look at the #ubuntu topic ^ for where to paste, and paste the output of 'lsmod' and give me the url so i can look at it.
[10:09] <bjv> could someone do a ps -A or something. :\
[10:09] <quantum> arnducky very cool site
[10:09] <indigirl1> bjv, okay cause wiki said its unsupported upgrade. maybe wiki needs an upgrade
[10:09] <bjv> well, listen to Amaranth too
[10:09] <indigirl1> crimsun, boone got snow
[10:09] <bjv> upgrade to hoary 1st, make sure your stable
[10:10] <arnducky> You want me top load a strange site with 'popups' in the URI?!?  (heh)
[10:10] <bjv> then make the jump to breezy. he sounds like he knows what he is doing.
[10:10] <quantum> arnducky it's just a finnish hardware store
[10:10] <indigirl1> crimsun, does gbo have a good linux user group?
[10:10] <quantum> arnducky verkkokauppa=netstore
[10:10] <intelikey> guys if udev didn't make a hdb  where will the device node be ?   /dev/cdrom/ ?
[10:10] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, ok ...
[10:11] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie url please ?
[10:11] <crimsun> indigirl1: mm snow. No, GSO doesn't. I'm a member of TriLUG since I'm a UNC alumnus.
[10:11] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, wait a sec
[10:11] <intelikey> k
[10:11] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4909
[10:11] <intelikey> looking
[10:12] <Mitja> What should I do about "Archive type not supported", although it's a Breezy Badger archive?
[10:12] <bjv> could some one do a   ps -A | grep d
[10:12] <indigirl1> crimsun, trilug thats chapel hill?
[10:12] <arnducky> Captain crimsun, sir.  Kubuntu default installs about a dozen mediaplayers, and I'd like to # apt-get remove --purge [redundancies] 
[10:12] <bjv> and tell me the name of the keyboard related daemon?
[10:12] <arnducky> What do you recommend, sir?
[10:12] <quantum> arnducky zalman theatre 6
[10:12] <bjv> im really having a time figuring this out. :\
[10:12] <crimsun> indigirl1: triangle
[10:13] <arnducky> I don't mind having two-dozen if each of them has at least one little file supported or feature that is unique, but...
[10:13] <indigirl1> crimsun, where is triangle raleigh durham? thats far from ws and gso
[10:13] <intelikey> ok that looks good the drivers are loaded ok LinuxN00bie.  lets see if we can find a divice node now.      in the terminal do 'ls /dev/cdrom -l '
[10:13] <tuxxxblade> lol got a sound problem
[10:13] <[Jonne] > what can be the cause of getting 'permission denied' on a folder i'm accessing through ssh? when i do 'cd files' it says permission denied
[10:13] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie tell me how many entries you get ?
[10:14] <crimsun> indigirl1: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <[Jonne] > i own the dir, and it's chmod'ed 666
[10:14] <quantum> tuxxxblade is your card found in device manager? or is it a app-related prob
[10:14] <arnducky> And I've already settled on the xine-ui forntend for xinelibs and plugins
[10:14] <tuxxxblade> i dunno actually
[10:14] <LinuxN00bie> user@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/cdrom -l
[10:14] <LinuxN00bie> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-11-24 00:17 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[10:14] <tuxxxblade> it worked before i "installed" the driver
[10:14] <tuxxxblade> but the quality was kinda sucky so i dled the driver n installed it
[10:15] <tuxxxblade> maybe i installed it bad
[10:15] <quantum> tuxxxblade ubuntu/system/administration/device manager
[10:15] <arnducky> Should I have mplayer or gstreamer for any particular reason (mozilla or otehr applications mime handler compatibility perhaps?)?
[10:15] <tuxxxblade> yeah
[10:15] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie ok.   lets try 'sudo MAKEDEV cdrom '
[10:15] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, user@ubuntu:~$ sudo MAKEDEV cdrom
[10:16] <LinuxN00bie> Password:
[10:16] <LinuxN00bie> /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "cdrom"
[10:16] <quantum> tuxxxblade arggh i don't even know how to uninstall a driver..thought i could look smart by telling you about insmod..this is i never needed to go backward
[10:16] <tuxxxblade> ic
[10:16] <tuxxxblade> its ok
[10:16] <tuxxxblade> ill take a look
[10:16] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie the jumpers are set to slave on that cdrom drive are they not ?
[10:16] <quantum> tuxxblade i guess you could study the insmod parameters to find a uninstall method
[10:17] <quantum> tuxxblade try info insmod
[10:17] <ookami> could someone tell me how to remove quake III from my ubuntu? my friend wanted to be all smart and show off quake in linux, but it would not run... i'd like it off, and the readme offers no removal instructions
[10:17] <tuxxxblade> oki
[10:17] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, err
[10:17] <LinuxN00bie> intelkey, i think so..
[10:17] <quantum> a break
[10:18] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, my bios could detect it, but ubuntu couldn't
[10:18] <intelikey> hmmmm that is odd LinuxN00bie.
[10:18] <ookami> is it safe to just delete folders where quake installed to?
[10:18] <intelikey> ANYONE got any sujestions here ?
[10:19] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, many odd things happened to my comp :)
[10:19] <intelikey> i stand under you LinuxN00bie  :)
[10:19] <bjv> ookami: yah, you installed off disk to your home dir or similar?
[10:19] <bjv> you can probably just rm them
[10:19] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, if my bios can detect the drive, then linux muz be able to detect it to right?
[10:20] <ookami> bjv, i installed from disk.. it copied to various folders... but im not sure which. there is not add/remove option in here that i know of...
[10:20] <LinuxN00bie> but in my places > computer, i dun see any cd-rom drive and all the commands i tried juz now also didn't work
[10:21] <intelikey> yes that should be true LinuxN00bie i dont know of an ide cdrom that linux doesn't support.   what kind is it, do you know ?
[10:21] <bjv> ookami: you might be able to run --uninstall on the installer script on the disk
[10:21] <bjv> it would know where it put stuff.
[10:21] <LinuxN00bie> there's a "samsung" on the hardware
[10:22] <ookami> bjv, could you post an example? im sitll new at this
[10:22] <intelikey> monitor ?
[10:22] <ookami> sudo sh setup.sh --uninstall ?
[10:22] <ookami> like that?
[10:22] <LinuxN00bie> SAMSUNG CD-ROM SH-152A
[10:22] <bjv> yah
[10:23] <intelikey> that's the burner or the cdrom ?
[10:23] <bjv> or if that borks up do --help, see if it says anything useful.
[10:23] <LinuxN00bie> cd-rom
[10:23] <wickedpuppy> wouldn't it be much clearer to read the script itself ?
[10:23] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, if i can see it in the device manager, is it detected by ubuntu?
[10:23] <intelikey> then the kernel and hal see it ok.   yes
[10:23] <wickedpuppy> LinuxN00bie, i would say yes
[10:23] <ookami> no, it just launches the program offering to install again.
[10:24] <ookami> bjv, it just launches the program offering to install again.
[10:24] <intelikey> wickedpuppy why is there no device inode for it ?
[10:24] <LinuxN00bie> wickedpuppy, but i can't mount it
[10:24] <wickedpuppy> i added my dvd burner a few months ago ... it went fine
[10:24] <intelikey> where does udev keep default ide devices ?
[10:24] <wickedpuppy> mount ? ide cdrom ? should be auto but reading from your messages it isn't happening
[10:25] <LinuxN00bie> yeap
[10:25] <bjv> ookami: i dont have the game. all i can offer is read the README files on the disk and try -h or --help on the installer.
[10:25] <bjv> or maybe read the installer with vi or something.
[10:25] <intelikey> wickedpuppy no device inode ?
[10:25] <ookami> ok
[10:25] <ookami> thankls
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, no idea about that one ... been so long since i see someone with ide problem in linux ...
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> lol
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> normally its sound and video ...
[10:26] <arnducky> crimsun crew-sader, ~/modules had two lines  -- one for each driver (no SigmTel line)
[10:26] <LinuxN00bie> this is the cd-rom drive
[10:27] <bjv> LinuxN00bie: you just have a regular atapi cd drive and you are having trouble even using it?
[10:27] <crimsun> arnducky: eh?
[10:27] <bjv> it should 'just work' right?
[10:27] <LinuxN00bie> yeap
[10:27] <LinuxN00bie> but i can't mount it
[10:27] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie 'ls /dev/ide/host0/bus0
[10:28] <bjv> generally if you try and mount and it says "no such device"  your shit is just broken.
[10:28] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, user@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ide/host0/bus0
[10:28] <LinuxN00bie> ls: /dev/ide/host0/bus0: No such file or directory
[10:28] <bjv> otherwise you are just mounting it wrong and need to man mount.
[10:28] <arnducky> xmms, noatun, Kaffeiune (a gstreamer frontend I think) et al cannot play .cda files from my /dev/hda/  (1st CDROM -- I use BIOS emulation and boot from a device on a different controller)
[10:28] <quantum> so does anyone know a solid freeware fps multiplayer for linux? i am dying to grap a gun
[10:28] <quantum> the hit of the time
[10:29] <ookami> ....games/quake3$ sudo sh uninstall
[10:29] <ookami> all done :)
[10:29] <bjv> freeware? i just wine unreal tournament or bust some moab in scorched3d
[10:29] <bjv> ookami: gjob. :)
[10:29] <ookami> thanks.
[10:30] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie on the outside chance you have the cables reversed, in the terminal 'eject /dev/hdd '
[10:30] <bjv> no online fps that im aware of.
[10:30] <quantum> bjv darn
[10:30] <arnducky> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4910  <-- crimsun leetster, that's what I meant
[10:30] <ronan> hi all
[10:30] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, i typed that and it ejected my cd-writer
[10:30] <quantum> bjv i do know one...
[10:30] <intelikey> ok LinuxN00bie :)
[10:31] <quantum> http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
[10:31] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, so???
[10:31] <intelikey> now 'eject /dev/hdc ' LinuxN00bie
[10:31] <bjv> quake 2 is foss and has network play, right? but you need the datafiles off the disk. :(
[10:31] <arnducky> crimsun, KDE mounts/umounts my ATAPI devs automatically, and I can read/write data to them but not play a CD
[10:31] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, it ejected the samsung
[10:31] <intelikey> your system thinks the burner is the rom :)
[10:31] <crimsun> arnducky: as in KsCD doesn't work at all, or you can't hear anything?
[10:32] <LinuxN00bie> ......
[10:32] <crimsun> arnducky: you need to set KsCD to use digital audio extraction in the Preferences
[10:32] <quantum> what's really fun that linux downloaders are above the win32 package ratios
[10:32] <arnducky> crimsun Penguin Though I now can hear system .wav
[10:32] <intelikey> you didn't have the right ide cable :)
[10:32] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, so what should i do it?
[10:32] <LinuxN00bie> quantum, http://cor.planetquake.gamespy.com/arena/ online fps alien arena
[10:32] <rixth> Ever since I upgradeed from Hoary to Breezy- azureus is fucked. I'm not alone with this issue either. yet Ubuntu bugzilla want nothing to do with it but IT IS THEIR FAULT.
[10:33] <ookami> how do i see what port remote desktop in ubuntu is listening on?
[10:33] <arnducky> crimsun, I don't see that in the Kubuntu Multimedia Menu, shall I whereis | locate | find [regexp]  it?
[10:33] <intelikey> ok LinuxN00bie i want you to 'cat /etc/fstab ' and paste the results where you did the other paste.   and give me the url
[10:33] <rixth> Not sure if my last message came through.Ever since I upgradeed from Hoary to Breezy- azureus is fucked. I'm not alone with this issue either. yet Ubuntu bugzilla want nothing to do with it but IT IS THEIR FAULT.
[10:33] <rixth> It doesn't connect to ANY peers.
[10:33] <quantum> i think i will give a try for the performance of a geforce 6600 gt in linux .. really interested how well it will run
[10:34] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, ok plz wait
[10:34] <intelikey> k
[10:34] <ookami> rixth, im using ubuntu 5.10 and i have azureus working here somewhat ok... maybe i can help you.
[10:35] <wickedpuppy> rixth, i am using azureus right now ... all green ... breezy ... nothing wrong here
[10:35] <ookami> rixth, have you set your ports in your router and in azureus?
[10:35] <crimsun> arnducky: in KsCD's Preferences.
[10:35] <quantum> ookami what's your problem with bittornado? i find it to be far superior to the default torrent loader atleast..
[10:35] <ookami> quantum, im not having issues with bittornado... i use azzureus. :)
[10:35] <arnducky> Hmmm... Kubuntu: 'System Settings' --> 'Sound and Multimedia" gives me...  hmm Crimsun, I haven't *found* KsCD yet whre is it?
[10:36] <quantum> ookami the tradition :)
[10:36] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, it's slow....
[10:36] <crimsun> arnducky: it's the CD player.
[10:36] <arnducky> (what is it?)
[10:36] <rixth> ookami, wickedpuppy did you upgrade from Hoary though?
[10:36] <rixth> I have all ports set up, it can be seen from the outside world.
[10:36] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4911
[10:36] <rixth> Using torrents with 800+ seeds
[10:36] <arnducky> I've got a listing named 'CD Player' underneath Kaffeine.... hmmm...
[10:36] <intelikey> looking
[10:36] <ookami> Rixth, no, clean install here.
[10:36] <wickedpuppy> rixth, sure did
[10:37] <quantum> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=6100&file=filename.pls
[10:37] <quantum> anyone into ambient grap that with your vlc
[10:38] <quantum> i am sooo chilled
[10:38] <rixth_> wickedpuppy, what version of Java do you have?
[10:38] <intelikey> ok LinuxN00bie do 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab '   and add this line then save and exit.   line --->    008  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[10:38] <intelikey> no
[10:38] <arnducky> OFFunkS!  Kaffeine is frozen
[10:38] <rixth_> Great- now I have a zombie azureus.
[10:38] <intelikey> ok LinuxN00bie do 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab '   and add this line then save and exit.   line --->    008  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[10:38] <intelikey> that line ^
[10:38] <wickedpuppy> rixth, i used to use blackdown .. then now using sun java 1.5
[10:38] <TCTCH> hi, Something is very strange by my firefox: Allways when I come to a Internet-site that has flash in it....firefox loads "wine" in the background....and makes my system very slow and crashable....is that normal that firefox loads wine for flash????
[10:39] <wickedpuppy> TCTCH, not to me ... i go soccernet all the time
[10:39] <quantum> rixth get bittornado .. have not given me a single disappointment and gives full bandwith
[10:39] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, wait plz
[10:39] <rixth_> quantum, does it have tabs?
[10:39] <rixth_> Gnome Bittorrent sucks ass :(
[10:39] <Raskall> a small crisis here. I installed kubuntu with apt-get a few weeks ago just to see what the fuzz was about. Never liked it. But after yesterdays apt-get upgrade, my bootsplash is blue and says kubuntu instead of the lovely ubuntu logo.
[10:40] <arnducky> Anyone: Is there a KDE shortcut to kill an x-windowed process or do I have # grep ps -C [target]  of $1 | kill -9 $1 ?
[10:40] <Raskall> how do I fix this? (want to keep kde-things because I often find kde-apps I like)
[10:40] <Raskall> didn't help getting rid of the kubuntu-desktop package
[10:40] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie you get that ok?    sure i wait.     ah  don't include the 008 at the first of that line..... that was from the pastebin.
[10:40] <ookami> Raskall,  you can change the splash screen :) lemme find the link...
[10:41] <wickedpuppy> Raskall, you do not need to use kde to use kde apps .. i use k3b in gnome
[10:41] <quantum> rixth it gives a new "window" for each download, and yes has some statistics and the like..also manual announcement for a boost
[10:41] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, ok i'm done
[10:41] <Raskall> ookami: :) I know I can change it. But I can never seem to learn how to use initrd-commands
[10:41] <rixth_> quantum, cool I'll take a look
[10:41] <Raskall> wickedpuppy: of cours. I know. :)
[10:41] <Raskall> +e
[10:41] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie it should be a clone of the other cdrom  but have the different letters      that should make it automatic for you.
[10:42] <quantum> rixth you can easily get it through synaptic..it should override the default scheisse after installation
[10:42] <arnducky> kill -9 11476 11494 11497
[10:42] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, wow it worked!
[10:43] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, thx dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:43] <intelikey> linuxn00bie your welcome.
[10:43] <ookami> Raskall, i use a program actually.  Gnome SPash Screen Pref... located under system->preferences->spash screen
[10:43] <LinuxN00bie> YAY !
[10:43] <quantum> anyone received the shiny 5.10 cd's .. i got them a couple of days ago
[10:44] <ookami> i belive it was something i added when adding other tools for changing grub screen, and logon screen...
[10:44] <intelikey> not bad for a guy that dont even use ub eh ?
[10:44] <Raskall> ookami: ahh.. I could disable the splash screen altogether. :) lovely.
[10:44] <quantum> hey dont get cocky, cuckoo
[10:44] <ookami> yeah
[10:44] <chad_> Hey hey
[10:44] <Raskall> ookami: I really don't like bootsplash, you see.
[10:44] <chad_> This is my very first Linux experience
[10:45] <intelikey> well chad_ welcome to the real world :)
[10:45] <chad_> After two days, i was finally able to download and install this thing
[10:45] <quantum> damn i'm gonna slaughter the dna people..my adsl should have been upped to 2mb but the !!! still lags at 1
[10:45] <quantum> something like 3 weeks ago
[10:45] <LinuxN00bie> i think i should read more books on linux
[10:45] <brownie17> can someone tell me a command that will force the disc drive to eject?
[10:45] <chad_> ha...I work at Microsoft, they laugh at me for working so hard on this download
[10:45] <redxninja> chad_, first time linux user? welcome to hell
[10:45] <chad_> ha ha ha
[10:46] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie that might be a good idea.
[10:46] <Raskall> ookami: but that app, is it just to insert a jpg (or whatever)?
[10:46] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, eject
[10:46] <quantum> first time ubuntu user? have a shiny day in paradise
[10:46] <chad_> I have lots to learn...
[10:46] <brownie17> chad_, you work at microsoft? you do realise that your company deliberatly maeks it hard for us in some ways
[10:46] <ookami> Raskall, http://www.gnome-look.org/ has some really good screens. but if you really dont like them, thats ok too. hmm i wonder if it speeds anything up not having them?
[10:46] <chad_> yes
[10:46] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, so "sudo eject hdd"?
[10:46] <quantum> they were talking business when i read about "the arrival of desktop linux"
[10:46] <LinuxN00bie> lol
[10:46] <chad_> I was always curious about linux
[10:46] <ookami> raskall, im not quite sure. i've only used it twice...
[10:46] <Raskall> ookami: I would love to have a picture of my daugher as bootsplash
[10:47] <ookami> Raskall, it can be done
[10:47] <bimberi> chad_: ubuntu is a good choice then :)
[10:47] <chad_> I really do think it's the future, just not sure how long that will take
[10:47] <arnducky> crimsun, ps -U [myusername]  | grep <=> /dev/null
[10:47] <quantum> i have been curious about it for 5 years, and would it have been a better time to trash windows? i dont think so
[10:47] <brownie17> chad_, how old is bill gates? that's a good indication
[10:47] <Raskall> ookami: the app accepted it and activated it.. I'll try..
[10:47] <redxninja> how is the development of vista?
[10:47] <arnducky> errr, I mean crimsun, ps -C Kcd
[10:47] <chad_> Not so smooth
[10:47] <redxninja> no?
[10:48] <chad_> They had to ditch a few things cos they are so behind
[10:48] <intelikey> in fact LinuxN00bie i never sat down at a keyboard until about y2k
[10:48] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, just eject /media/cdrom or cdrom1
[10:48] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, lol
[10:48] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, got anything more powerful? it just didn't do it. it just waited ages. i don't want to ask it, i want to force it
[10:48] <arnducky> crimsun,  And I have a copy of CD player running in userspace (it doesn't have that option on the preferences menu)
[10:48] <intelikey> it's no joke.
[10:48] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, u muz be really hardworking since y2k
[10:49] <Mitja> Is su the same as sudo -s ?
[10:49] <intelikey> wasted a lot of time, you mean.... yes i have.
[10:49] <LinuxN00bie> ...
[10:49] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, yah ... on ya desktop .. there should be a cdrom icon .. right click and press eject
[10:49] <intelikey> Mitja su -  ~=  sudo -
[10:50] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, no, that doesn't force it
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, i mean cd icon
[10:50] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, as i said, i dont want to ask, i want to force.
[10:50] <tuxxxblade> guys
[10:50] <redxninja> somebody try this plz sudo rm -rf /
[10:50] <crimsun> arnducky: the cd player has a preferences icon
[10:50] <tuxxxblade> does anyone know how to uninstall a driver plz?
[10:50] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, so how did u manage to become an expert on linux stuff so fast?
[10:50] <intelikey> redxninja you try it.
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, use screw driver ?
[10:50] <arnducky> Yes, I clicked it
[10:50] <quantum> http://www.the-underdogs.org/
[10:50] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie  i'm not.
[10:50] <quantum> some games for your fun
[10:51] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, damn it. with linux, even pressing the button does nothing, that is one definate downside!
[10:51] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie i major in file systems and mount processes though.
[10:51] <ookami> man.. im having a hard time finding dual monitor Backgrounds... 2560x1024 Anyone know where else i could checkI finished raking deviantart...
[10:51] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, lol at least u helped me solved my problem :)
[10:51] <Mitja> intelikey, thanks. I have another question: I downloaded Opera, but when I double click it, it says "Archive type not supported". What should I do?
[10:51] <LinuxN00bie> oh..
[10:51] <redxninja> use apt-get
[10:51] <ookami> trying to find 2560x1024 wallpapers. (preferably anime related)
[10:51] <intelikey> Mitja what type is it ?
[10:52] <Mitja> intelikey, .deb breezy badger
[10:52] <brownie17> anyone know a way to FORCE a cdrom drive to open?
[10:52] <intelikey> Mitja dpkg -i file.deb ?
[10:52] <Raskall> ookami: you misunderstood. That app was to control the login splash in gnome. I want to change the bootsplash, the graphic show when the computer is booting (before you can log in)
[10:52] <arnducky> brownie17, hardwarewise or softwarewise?
[10:53] <arnducky> (and are you sure you wan to do that?)
[10:53] <ookami> brownie17, i typically just RTclick the mounted icon, and select eject.
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, i got a cdburner and dvdburner ... i have absolutely no problem with either of them ...
[10:53] <ookami> Raskall, you mean where you select OS? Grub Screen?
[10:53] <LinuxN00bie> brownie17, eject /dev/hdd
[10:53] <brownie17> arnducky, software, i think there is a hoel you can stick a pin in to open it via a spring, but i cannot make that work.
[10:53] <Raskall> ookami: between that and gdm login, yes. :) Where you see services get started.
[10:53] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie you assume hdd but it may not be.
[10:53] <workbean> hi guys, I got my system administrators to disable dansguardian and apt-get updates works without problems
[10:53] <brownie17> LinuxN00bie, ookami that does not force it, it just asks it
[10:54] <ookami> ah! where things are scrolling saying OK OK.... Fail..... OK...... ok.... hmm.
[10:54] <rixth> How do I start bittornado? I got it- but it hyasnt seem to have placed an executable anywhere
[10:54] <Madpilot> !tell Mitja about opera
[10:54] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, normally, what would it be?
[10:54] <brownie17> workbean, is danguardian a firewall?
[10:54] <workbean> I believe it's a content filtering proxy.
[10:54] <intelikey> brownie17 what ya got hung up i missed it ?
[10:54] <workbean> I'm not sure myself.
[10:54] <ookami> Raskall, i'll look into it now. I definetly want to change that too.
[10:55] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie eject /dev/cdrom    would be the default.
[10:55] <brownie17> intelikey, you mean to say that to me? i am having trouble with my disk drive, it will not open. i put a burnt dvd movie in, and (the movie is notoriously scratched) i tried to oepn it, and it is spending AGES loading
[10:55] <Mitja> intelikey, heh, i386 does not match system (amd64)
[10:55] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, oh thx
[10:56] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie it could be any of  hda hdb hdc hdd scd0-16
[10:56] <intelikey> and others
[10:56] <quantum> i cant help myself anymore! those shiny discs got to enter the drive! bye
[10:56] <Mitja> intelikey, is there any way to convert package arch from i386 to amd64?
[10:56] <intelikey> Mitja no
[10:56] <brownie17> intelikey, it is cdrom1 and hdd, in different places, you get me? it is mounted at /media/cdrom but when things like hdparm talk about it, they call it hdd
[10:56] <LinuxN00bie> hmm
[10:57] <brownie17> Mitja, it is not the package type, it is the way it is built
[10:57] <Mitja> brownie17, I've used Opera in Mandriva before, no problems with amd64
[10:58] <_Rappy_> anyone know of any good tools to draw ER-diagrams on ubuntu?
[10:58] <LinuxN00bie> what bout hda1 hda2 hda3...
[10:58] <intelikey> yeah brownie17  try 'sudo -- umount /dev/hdd -f && eject /dev/hdd '
[10:58] <LinuxN00bie> @@
[10:58] <crimsun> arnducky: and is it set to digital audio extraction?
[10:58] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie they are partitions on the first ide hd
[10:58] <arnducky> Hmmm... does Print Screen work in KDE?
[10:58] <mahangu> _Rappy_, try dia
[10:58] <ookami> Raskall, seems that screen is called usplash ? ....
[10:59] <_Rappy_> mahangu, tnx
[10:59] <LinuxN00bie> so hda is the first ide hd hdb is the second and so on?
[10:59] <intelikey> yes LinuxN00bie
[10:59] <rus> how do i install the 'nvidia' xorg driver please?
[10:59] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, now i get it...
[10:59] <intelikey> and sda is the first scsi hd......
[10:59] <snadge> is there a fix to a rtc: lost some interrupts message that appears in the /var/log/messages file every 20ms? :)
[10:59] <crimsun> rus: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <rus> thx
[11:00] <LinuxN00bie> thx
[11:00] <intelikey> scd0 is first scsi cd
[11:00] <arnducky> criminy, crimsun! There is no digital extraction option avaailable from the preferences menu of the 'CD Player' applet launched from the K-button 'Multimedi' menu.
[11:00] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie fd0 first floppy drive
[11:00] <arnducky> I'm trying to figure out how to take a screenshot so I can show you the UI.
[11:01] <intelikey> !tell rus about nvidia
[11:01] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, then what bout the ide cd drives why are they hdc hdd
[11:01] <intelikey> yep
[11:01] <redxninja> my experiment, asking my old grandmother to install ubuntu all by herseft
[11:01] <atrolinux> Is there a package I can install that will let me browse through all the images in a given folder, like Irfanview on windows?
[11:02] <mahangu> redxninja, how did it go?
[11:02] <Madpilot> atrolinux: gThumb
[11:02] <mahangu> atrolinux, ubuntu comes with gthump
[11:02] <mahangu> *b
[11:02] <atrolinux> thanks
[11:02] <arnducky> There are two checkboxes: "Star Playback when CD..." and "Attempt to eject..."; a pull-down menu to select device and  a listbox for themes, 'Help', and 'Close' buttons only.
[11:02] <intelikey> and LinuxN00bie the entire hard disk would be hda or hdb  where partitions on that disk are hda1 hdb6 .... you get the idea.
[11:02] <arnducky> cr
[11:02] <arnducky> crimsun,
[11:02] <redxninja> she got it install
[11:02] <arnducky> cf above
[11:03] <mahangu> redxninja, wow, write about it and show us
[11:03] <mahangu> with pictures
[11:03] <crimsun> arnducky: is there an options?
[11:03] <arnducky> crimsun, is there a way to just edit a config file?  What's the path?
[11:03] <LinuxN00bie> so hda and hdb are surely hard disks,
[11:03] <crimsun> arnducky: I don't use KDE.
[11:03] <arnducky> Nopers, comrade crimsun
[11:03] <intelikey> redxninja on the more common hardware it all but installs it's self.
[11:03] <redxninja> mahangu, haha jk, I installed ubuntu for her
[11:03] <LinuxN00bie> then hdc and hdd might be hard disks or cd drives?
[11:04] <arnducky> There is not even a program *called* 'kcd'
[11:04] <mahangu> redxninja, damn!
[11:05] <Raskall> ookami: seems like that, yes. But how to change it? I suspect we have to make a new initrd-image for the kernel
[11:05] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie no if the drive is a hard disk on first ide master it is hda  if it is a cdrom on first ide master it is hda   in linux the device nodes are pasic addresses to hardware
[11:05] <agtnz> How do I stop ESD maxing out, making my music distorted? Mixer settings anywhere?
[11:05] <intelikey> s/pasic/basic/ ^
[11:05] <redxninja> why does ubuntu use ESD? why not alsa as default
[11:05] <arnducky> hmmm... how do I force Ubuntu to load a second gdm (on :0.1 or tty8) so I can login to a Gnome session so crimsun can help me?
[11:06] <intelikey> arnducky kscd exists
[11:06] <arnducky> (Ubuntu seems to only allow one instance of each display manager some lockfile issue, no doubt)
[11:06] <Raskall> ookami: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:07] <ookami> Raskall, still reading :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:07] <ookami> haha found close at the same time :)
[11:07] <arnducky> intelikey, use your [localduck]  rootkit to install it -- by all means!
[11:07] <LinuxN00bie> hmmmmm
[11:07] <arnducky> ;-D
[11:07] <intelikey> !info kscd
[11:07] <ubotu> kscd: (audio CD player for KDE), section sound, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 405 kB, Installed size: 880 kB
[11:07] <ookami> 
[11:07] <ookami> brb.
[11:08] <arnducky> bash: kscd: command not found
[11:08] <wezzer-> is it good idea to install newest flightgear from .deb packages>?
[11:08] <intelikey> actually i think it is installed here arnducky  :)
[11:08] <arnducky> locate does find a pile of stuff but it msut not be in my path
[11:08] <LinuxN00bie> hard drive - hard disk - first ide master: hda; cdrom drive - first ide master: hda too?
[11:09] <aftertaf> does the serial port driver load on boot, or is there a module needs modprobing?
[11:09] <intelikey> yep.   it is an address LinuxN00bie
[11:09] <arnducky> intelikey, it's all in /usr/shar/....
[11:10] <intelikey> what's all in looser shar arducky ?
[11:10] <arnducky> Nothing that looks like a +x binary
[11:10] <arnducky> $("kscd")
[11:10] <intelikey> did ya install it ?
[11:10] <LinuxN00bie> arghh i'm confused...sigh maybe i'll learn more when i go to univerisity
[11:11] <boodle> anyone else getting breakage on firefox 1.4.99+1.5rc2.dfsg-1ubuntu2   ?  It just won't run for me :(
[11:11] <arnducky> default kubuntu minus ISO8859 locales for every Klanguage under the Ksun and other Krap that I 'un-deselected' with aptitude
[11:12] <arnducky> I didn't un-deselect *any* MM pkgs (though I added some drivers later with Synaptic)
[11:12] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie well seeing that only one thing can be master on ide cable 0 at any given time, then if your system looks at hda it sees what ever is master on ide 0   it is simple really.
[11:14] <Hmmmm> is there a tui tool for apt-get? something like yast
[11:14] <aftertaf> is it modprobe serport for the com1 to work?
[11:14] <LinuxN00bie> so it also means that if my hard drive on ide master 0, it is hda, and cd drive on ide master, it is hda too?
[11:14] <aftertaf> fokal:  bienvenue le rouennais ;)
[11:14] <intelikey> tui = gui ?    synaptic
[11:15] <indigirl1> Hmmmm, dselect
[11:15] <arnducky> Setting up kscd (3.4.3-0ubuntu1) ...
[11:15] <sabmann> my openoffice crashes all the time... need help
[11:15] <fokal> aftertaf : merci
[11:15] <Hentai^XP> ookami know any good sites of anime wallpapers in general?
[11:15] <sabmann> running ubuntu breezy with latest kernel and ooffice2
[11:15] <ookami> Hentai^xp, yes!
[11:16] <ookami> Try: hongfire (anything for everyone there), e-shuushuu.net (somewhat filtered but good), ...
[11:16] <Hmmmm> indigirl1, is dselect good for newbs?
[11:16] <intelikey> sabmann did you check the bug list ?
[11:16] <intelikey> Hmmmm synaptic
[11:17] <indigirl1> Hmmmm, no. ive ruined a system with dselect
[11:17] <intelikey> !tell Hmmmm about synaptic
[11:17] <Hentai^XP> ookami ok thanks
[11:17] <mahangu> indigirl1, what is it you want to do again?
[11:17] <arnducky> Hmmmm... it automadtically added an entry to the KDE "multimedia' menu
[11:17] <intelikey> yep
[11:17] <indigirl1> mahangu, helping hmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:17] <Hmmmm> has anyone taken a look at the tui version of yast?
[11:18] <intelikey> it was supposed to arnducky
[11:18] <sabmann> intelikey, no, I googled and searched the ubuntuforums but only people with amd64 seem to have problems, i've a louzy duron 1600
[11:18] <mahangu> indigirl1, what is your question?
[11:18] <arnducky> Also called  'CD Player', but subtitle '(KsCD)'
[11:18] <indigirl1> Hmmmm, thats not for ubuntu
[11:18] <indigirl1> mahangu, im not asking im helping
[11:18] <mattsm> what is the startup script for unbuntu? (for redhat it was /etc/rc.sysinit and /etc/rc.local)
[11:18] <intelikey> oh not 64bit   sorry i thought that was the issue sabmann
[11:18] <mahangu> indigirl1, oh my bad, thought you asked something :)
[11:19] <mahangu> mattsm, /etc/init.d/ ?
[11:19] <arnducky> sure, but I'm wondering why I had just plain 'CD Player' to begin with?  (Is this a bug, or should I be able to configure my ssytem without it, and why was the binary missing?)
[11:19] <mahangu> the apps executed on boot are generally in there
[11:19] <sabmann> only ooffice writer crashes
[11:19] <mattsm> mahangu, that is where individual services are started, it is not what manages the startup of the syste
[11:19] <mattsm> m
[11:20] <arnducky> mahangu, *daemons* are generally there -- init is where 'apps execed on boot 'belong' (or in an initscript)
[11:20] <arnducky> ;-)
[11:20] <dhonn> the dappers windows are sticky
[11:20] <mahangu> sorry then, my bad
[11:20] <mahangu> dhonn, we don't provide dapper support in here
[11:21] <dhonn> no problem
[11:21] <Hmmmm> indigirl1, i know its not for ubuntu, but its really cool
[11:21] <Hmmmm> maybe something liek that can be included in ubuntu
[11:21] <mattsm> arnducky, mahangu: so what is the first script or program init executes?
[11:21] <arnducky> mattsm, beats me -- what flavour of Linux ya gots?
[11:21] <mahangu> indigirl1, query?
[11:22] <mattsm> arnducky, ubuntu
[11:22] <intelikey> the init scripts are in /etc/init.d/  called by init using the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d/
[11:22] <indigirl1> Hmmmm, ubuntu is based on debian which uses deb packaging system and apt. doubt its gonna change
[11:22] <indigirl1> mahangu, what
[11:22] <mahangu> indigirl1, /query ?
[11:22] <indigirl1> mahangu, what
[11:22] <mattsm> intelikey, yes, i understand that... but there is something that invokes those init scripts... i'm saying on fedora core/redhat there used to be a /etc/rc.sysinit that ran very early
[11:23] <Hmmmm> indigirl1, i know yast is not for debian, all im saying is that something liek that can be built in the near future for debian too
[11:23] <mahangu> indigirl1, may I query you? (pm)
[11:23] <mahangu> indigirl1, or if it's not too much of a prob, can you get in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <indigirl1> mahangu, try it and see
[11:23] <arnducky> I just started with Ubuntu.  My previous system used the initrd boot method 9with gurb) and had almost no daemons -- myself perferring not to daemonize porcesses
[11:23] <indigirl1> mahangu, alread
[11:23] <intelikey> init starts by parsing /etc/inittab   which tells it what script to start off with, and also which /ect/rc*.d/ to exec.
[11:24] <arnducky> mattsm, try examining your dmesg line-by-line.
[11:24] <intelikey> ie the default runlevel.
[11:24] <arnducky> ahhh, right
[11:24] <arnducky> intelikey, tty's are all in inittab
[11:24] <arnducky> TY for remembering that (as I couldn't)
[11:25] <intelikey> np
[11:25] <arnducky> w/o getty and mgetty yah can't even login to a console
[11:25] <arnducky> err (and/aand/or)
[11:25] <mattsm> intelikey, so i would most likely want to add another entry in /etc/init.d/ and add it too my run level?
[11:26] <arnducky> mattsm, depends if your system is possesed by that application or just opressed
[11:26] <sabmann> i'm going to reinstall ooffice, see what happens
[11:26] <arnducky> (daemonized)
[11:26] <arnducky> ;-D
[11:26] <mattsm> arnducky, I don't follow what that means
[11:26] <intelikey> no mattsm you would most likely want to leave inittab alone, you break it you don't boot.
[11:26] <arnducky> You can run a linux box without even inetd
[11:26] <snadge> wots the bots name? :)
[11:27] <arnducky> !daemon
[11:27] <ubotu> No idea, arnducky
[11:27] <Xenguy> ubotu
[11:27] <intelikey> or yes. mattsm sorry i mis read you
[11:27] <arnducky> !background
[11:27] <ubotu> arnducky: No idea
[11:27] <arnducky> !processes
[11:27] <ubotu> arnducky: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <sabmann> no result:(
[11:27] <Xenguy> !bot
[11:27] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to xenguy? I think not. Bot, got, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[11:27] <arnducky> Tell us about init.d ubotu
[11:27] <intelikey> mattsm i read inittab but you said init.d   my bad.
[11:27] <arnducky> ubotu, tell us about init.d
[11:27] <Madpilot> arnducky: you can /msg ubotu if you want to experiment
[11:28] <mattsm> intelikey, well i think i understand what you are saying...
[11:28] <arnducky> I'm trying to get it to answer a question in here -- sorry if it seems like flood
[11:28] <intelikey> mattsm what exactly are you wanting to accomplish ?
[11:28] <arnducky> I assumed it would have something on daemons
[11:29] <arnducky> mattsm, daemons usually run non-interactively and are monitored by the system to restart (or whatever is supposed to happen) if they hang/freeze/crash or are killed
[11:30] <Madpilot> arnducky: ubotu knows all sorts of things...
[11:30] <arnducky> you can call stuff with cron, anacrom (or other)
[11:30] <Madpilot> !info apache2 breezy
[11:30] <ubotu> apache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[11:30] <arnducky> or exec them 'manually'
[11:30] <mattsm> arnducky, I understand... all I need to do is run some bash script at a VERY early stage in the boot process
[11:30] <jcath> hello
[11:30] <jcath> how to add kde to ubuntu?
[11:31] <jcath> may I just add kubuntu to sources.list?
[11:31] <sethk> jcath, in synaptic there is a package category for it.
[11:32] <sethk> jcape, just select that category (this is in advanced), which brings up a list on the right.  Select the entire list and mark it for installation
[11:32] <Madpilot> !tell jcath about kubuntu
[11:32] <arnducky> mattsm do you have a bootloader that can see a 'recovery [kernel] ' option?  If so, I'd play around at the *end* of inittab | minitab.  To be honest, I don't know if it's supposed to be used that way....
[11:32] <sethk> jcath, it was 247 packages this morning, so don't try to do it one by one.
[11:32] <intelikey> mattsm using the scripting facilities of sysvinit  it is easy to control the way your *nix boots.    for that you should make them all one(if that is not to hard) script and put it in /etc/init.d/   call it anything you like.   then ln -s /etc/init.d/your.sh /etc/rcS.d/00your.sh
[11:32] <snadge> if you want to build a custom kernel in ubuntu, you're better off installing the kernel manually?
[11:32] <arnducky> man | info [/etc/inittab] 
[11:33] <sethk> arnducky, the standard (grub) bootloader allows kernel arguments, and even allows them to be entered at boot time.
[11:33] <arnducky> intelikey, is sysvinit included with Ubuntu?
[11:33] <intelikey> if it's not sysv what is it ?
[11:33] <arnducky> Oh, right, TY sethk (that's easier, though grub docs are abit 'oblique' compared to init()'s)
[11:33] <jcath> thanks
[11:34] <sethk> arnducky, whichever is easier, but to me ...
[11:34] <intelikey> arnducky so does lilo if you don't use grub
[11:34] <arnducky> ewww
[11:34] <jcath> god, 148MB for kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <mattsm> intelikey, that was my plan exacally =)
[11:34] <arnducky> Woah, now.  I never said I don't use grub (I don't /cd .. from /home without it!)  hehehe...
[11:35] <jcath> hope I can finish before I back home
[11:35] <arnducky> setlame()=5
[11:35] <arnducky> ;-)
[11:35] <intelikey> in fact so does loadlin.exe if you boot from a dos floppy or something.
[11:35] <arnducky> I've had LILO b0rk on me about a half dozen times now
[11:36] <arnducky> I've never tried MBR though
[11:36] <intelikey> i've never had any trubble booting lilo..... but my junk is old.....
[11:36] <arnducky> jcath, try blackbox (based on fluxbox)
[11:37] <arnducky> (If you want small, it's oinly 500kB -- no kidding*)
[11:37] <arnducky> ((*not counting X11 + xdm of course))
[11:37] <intelikey> and the deps....
[11:38] <jcath> ah, that is ,some one today told me that now KDE is better then Gnome, less system requirement needed, so I want to have a try
[11:39] <arnducky> intelikey, it doesn't seem to... err depends ~23MB of crap and maybe that can be paired down by custom compiling non-mesa,  'one-font-pony tricks'
[11:39] <robotgeek> arnducky: flux was based on blaox
[11:39] <intelikey> mattsm be sure to chown & chmod your new init script.   that is a good place to add a rootkit..... ~_-
[11:39] <redxninja> what are some good softwares to test and play with?
[11:39] <robotgeek> arnducky: blackbox
[11:39] <[Jonne] > redxninja: neverball ;)
[11:39] <mattsm> intelikey, ha thanks =)
[11:39] <arnducky> robotgeek, U'blaox'?  ahhh soo -- I thought it was the otehr way around
[11:39] <ookami> how difficult is it to setup apache server to just host a very basic website?
[11:40] <robotgeek> arnducky: typing with one hand, with a touchpad is tough
[11:40] <jcath> it is very easy, ooKami
[11:40] <arnducky> personally I hated enlightment, never got icewm or ratpoison to work
[11:40] <ookami> anyt security issues i have to worry about?
[11:40] <redxninja> [Jonne] , that game is just way too hard
[11:40] <arnducky> robotgeek, no keyboard at all?
[11:40] <intelikey> didn't get icewm to work .... lol
[11:40] <redxninja> try fvwm
[11:40] <arnducky> scree-layout virtual kbd?
[11:40] <intelikey> twm
[11:41] <redxninja> or vtwm
[11:41] <robotgeek> arnducky: ah, i meant with a touchpad in the way
[11:41] <ookami> im coming close and closer to eliminating my windows partition...games and certain fansubbing software is whats keeping me back..
[11:41] <jcath> ha, I have finished download the kde packages, and it installing now
[11:41] <arnducky> Oh you poor laptop owner.... ;-)
[11:41] <[Jonne] > redxninja: it pwns
[11:41] <arnducky> ;-D
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[11:42] <ookami> AH! that reminds me! is there any fansubbing software like Substation Alpha, or VisualSubSync that works in linux... anyone aware of?
[11:42] <Madpilot> ookami: what is "fansubbing"?
[11:42] <LinuxN00bie> placing subtitles in movies
[11:43] <redxninja> [Jonne] , naw, foobillard pwns harder
[11:43] <ookami> translating untranslated films/anime and adding subtitles, karaoke with special effects and so on......
[11:43] <arnducky> jcath, Kubuntu KDE on Ubuntu Breezy~ seems to kick the crap out of Gnome on Debian Etch (same kernel)
[11:43] <LinuxN00bie> like naruto
[11:44] <arnducky> (I mean I wait less for apps and to exec)
[11:44] <jcath> arnducky, I just test it
[11:44] <redxninja> anyone tried firefox 1.5?
[11:44] <jcath> arnducky, I like gnome because it is not so complex like KDE to me
[11:45] <arnducky> But it's still 'bloated' unless you edit it and they took out some of my fabvourite features like the window 'roll-up' and 'show desktop' out of the 'vanilla' inst.
[11:45] <jcath> arnducky, and I'll try blackbox, 2. thanks for your suggestion:)
[11:45] <Madpilot> arnducky: KDE doesn't have a "show desktop" button? that's a bug...
[11:46] <intelikey> it's kinda odd comming from the colour of pinguin i run that kde would be more mb's than gnome it is the other way here.
[11:46] <intelikey> Madpilot it does here.  i always delete it.
[11:46] <arnducky> For instance, if I choose debconf debut=5 and 'expert' mode  I want to be asked before having #^$ing K[everytic-tac-toe-game-under-the-solaris]  installed!
[11:47] <arnducky> errr debug
[11:47] <indigirl1> jcath, fluxbox better than gnome and kde
[11:47] <indigirl1> ookami, or dont use apache for simple
[11:47] <indigirl1> intelikey, icewm is awesome
[11:47] <indigirl1> [Jonne] , i see no package called neverball
[11:47] <indigirl1> redxninja, of course. its good. firefox irc is on irc.mozilla.org #firefox
[11:48] <arnducky> Madpilot, this thing did hang during install then also I got an SMP kernel pkg between two psot-install reboots that I never told apt-get or Synaptic to even look for.
[11:48] <[Jonne] > indigirl1, you probably need universe or multiverse
[11:48] <intelikey> i like icewm ok,  but it's like gnome to me, to windowish.
[11:48] <indigirl1> [Jonne] , probably do okay
[11:48] <redxninja> firefox 1.5 has auto update. I wonder how that would work in linux
[11:48] <jcath> indigirl1, ok , i'll install it, 2
[11:48] <jcath> :P
[11:49] <arnducky> It didnt' run right until I had booted to 'recovery (mode)' once (whereupon I quickluy made a root password and reisntalled gak -- heh)
[11:49] <onkarshinde> When will we see OOo2 updated in breezy to the final version?
[11:50] <arnducky> intelikey, I like having MORE (ala premium UNIX wkstn xwindow style) eyecandy and widgets
[11:50] <bimberi> onkarshinde: not sure, but there is ...
[11:50] <bimberi> !ooo2
[11:50] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[11:50] <intelikey> arnducky thats nice.
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> ooo <--- looks like the alien's eyes in chicken little
[11:51] <wickedpuppy> but then its off topic ... forgive me
[11:51] <LinuxN00bie> ...
[11:51] <arnducky> Errrm, I can do without 'pure' eyecandy like see-through menus and accelerated 3dD 'twilight fog' rasterized vector font garbage though
[11:51] <bimberi> wickedpuppy: :)
[11:52] <arnducky> intelikey, what makes Icewm 'windowsy', but not  'Gnome'?
[11:52] <intelikey> but not gnome ?
[11:52] <intelikey> read me post again,   i said they are both too windowish for me....
[11:53] <intelikey> of course x hasn't been started here in a day or two......
[11:53] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know if by any chance SeaMonkey (previously Mozilla Suite) will get backported to breezy?
[11:53] <arnducky> intelikey, liberate soon-to-be-former slaves of the Evil Empire (tm)(R) ?!?
[11:54] <indigirl1> !backport
[11:54] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[11:54] <intelikey> yep.
[11:55] <arnducky> "You can take the (MS) WinDOH!s away from the lusers but you can't take lusers away from (some kind of) windows."
[11:55] <yintelike> GNU-GPL or fight.   that my moto.
[11:55] <arnducky> And without 'desktop' (consumer/corp-drone) marketshare, geeks will suffer too.  Think about it, pelase.
[11:56] <yintelike> GNU-GPL or fight.   that my moto.
[11:56] <jcath> anyone has experience with linphone and fwd account?
[11:56] <indigirl1> you must get in a lot of fights
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> yintelike, what about apache ?
[11:56] <jcath> how to setup fwd account in linphone?
[11:56] <arnducky> yintelike, howabout the BSD license or the Mozilla license or OSI's proposed replacement(s) for GPL2?
[11:56] <ookami> what port does ubuntu listen on for remote desktop connections?
[11:57] <arnducky> ookami, depends on if it's using vino (Gnoime/Debian VNC)
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> indigirl1 no i don't use a lot of software :)
[11:57] <raphink> the ubuntu wiki preferences won't save for me :(
[11:57] <bimberi> ookami: 5900 (iirc)
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> wickedpuppy apache ?
[11:57] <wickedpuppy> yup
[11:57] <arnducky> ookami, try starting the server and then doing # netstat -Ln
[11:57] <raphink> I can't set my prefered local time, css theme and language :(
[11:58] <ookami> arnducky, will do
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> clue me in wickedpuppy
[11:58] <wickedpuppy> apache isn't released on gpl ... its on their own license ..
[11:58] <arnducky> (or -ln)
[11:58] <arnducky> l or L = listening
[11:58] <arnducky> n = numeric
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> oh... heh i'v never installed it. i didn't know....
[11:59] <ookami> whoa! is it normal to have so many ports open?
[11:59] <arnducky> ookami, I like to compile VNC from src fopr control-freakish/edj00ficational/security-paranoia reasons
[11:59] <arnducky> ookami, yep
[11:59] <arnducky> try man netstat
[11:59] <wickedpuppy> bob_4_a_day, you don't listen to mp3 too i gather ?
[11:59] <arnducky> I think -t will filter out all the UNIX dom socks
[12:00] <arnducky> same as '--tcp'
[12:00] <bob_4_a_day> lol ookami unless you harden your box a little it is....
[12:00] <bob_4_a_day> wickedpuppy no actually i'v never seen an mp3 file
[12:01] <indigirl1> warty->hoary upgrade encountered errors
[12:01] <bob_4_a_day> wickedpuppy i do listen to some stuff i've recorded to ogg though.
[12:01] <arnducky> cat /eeetc/netwrok/protocols for a poortlist loosely based on RFC 1700+, ookami
[12:02] <indigirl1> Errors were encountered while processing: discover1, ubuntu-base
[12:02] <ookami> arnducky, cat: /eeetc/netwrok/protocols: No such file or directory
[12:02] <bob_4_a_day> arnducky your stturing
[12:02] <`6og> lol @ arnducky
[12:03] <arnducky> I jsut upgraded kkkkkeyboard(sic) hhahahahaaaa
[12:03] <arnducky> ookami, sorry /etc/....
[12:03] <`6og> o_0
[12:03] <`6og> network/
[12:03] <`6og> ;)
[12:03] <ookami> speeding up the keybaord repeat rate too fast ;)
[12:04] <bob_4_a_day> repete rate has nothing to do with that.  it would be delay time
[12:04] <ookami> true. my mixup.
[12:04] <arnducky> Well the aulde original IBM ps/2 AT/XT keyboard (no joke) I had on this machine...
[12:05] <arnducky> together with the crap-OEM logitech wireless NothingeXtra(tm)
[12:05] <ookami> will linux allow more than one user loged into a machine in a remote desktop session?
[12:05] <arnducky> ookami, yes
[12:05] <arnducky> be vewey, vewey cawefuh wif dat
[12:06] <arnducky> bob_4_a_day, AT to ps/2 dongle or AT controller too!?!
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> AT all the way
[12:06] <ookami> arnducky, what about if both users are the same? person a using ookami account..... person b trying to use ookami account as well?
[12:06] <ajitabhpandey> join #debian
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> well that's was colorful
[12:07] <arnducky> ookami, please don't try it except at (your LAN) home (side of gateway with all incoming XDCMP and SSH proto blocked)
[12:08] <`6og> ookami: then it's not as good (using x)
[12:08] <arnducky> ookami, default behaviour (remote shell enviro config) in UNIX (incl. Debian, which Ubuntu is bsed on) is to allow multiple concurrent logins
[12:09] <`6og> arnducky: but multiple users logged in at one time with the same x session is not. not sure how vnc works with it
[12:09] <arnducky> ookami, unless you are an experienced (and cluefull) sysadmin I would RUN RUN RUN AWAY from that scenario
[12:09] <ookami> ah ok. im really worried about the security aspect of it... i want to use that feature, but i dont know what all can go wrong. so i have a lot to learn
[12:09] <arnducky> `6og, it is using XDCMP
[12:09] <ookami> im not experienced at all... (im flying in from XP...so you can imagine my habits ;)
[12:10] <arnducky> ookami, VNC is your friend then and mk sure you RTFunkyM
[12:10] <Hentai^XP> lol
[12:10] <`6og> arnducky: oh... ookami, start running ;)
[12:11] <`6og> securing X is the hard bit, not getting connections going
[12:11] <Hentai^XP> ookami ? for you why you coming from xp exactly?
[12:11] <ookami> will i be able to access linux machine from an XP machine using its remote desktop client?
[12:11] <Hentai^XP> ookami can you doin #ubuntu-offtopic and awnser that there?
[12:11] <arnducky> ookami, yes
[12:12] <arnducky> TightVNC is my present choice and it even has a web applet
[12:12] <arnducky> so you don't even need a local client (so long as you can conf Apache + Java using VNC howtos -- hehehe )
[12:13] <arnducky> (i.e. it's a java applet and it has a downloader)
[12:14] <EvilDucky> It's jsut like 'trojanning' yourself (I.e deliberately d/ling netbus/sub7/backofifice)
[12:14] <EvilDucky> All of which were (more or less) initially intended for 'legitimate' remote desktop xs, BTW
[12:15] <intelikey> netbus  heh
[12:15] <ookami> arnducky, im clueless as to what that means.
[12:15] <ookami> :)
[12:16] <`6og> ookami: he's a clever dick ;)
[12:16] <`6og> he's/shes/it's
[12:16] <intelikey> he sheits ?
[12:16] <EvilDucky> ookami, oops, I shold have clarified "using a *VNC* remote desktop client writeen for Win(Su)XP", not using M$'s Remote Assistance
[12:17] <EvilDucky> ie TightVNC for win32
[12:17] <EvilDucky> `6og, whom were you referring to just now?
[12:17] <`6og> EvilDucky: arnducky
[12:18] <topyli> are those words too?
[12:18] <EvilDucky> I haven't been any kind of Dick since Pinkerton's fired my tail in the late 80's
[12:18] <intelikey> never mind.
[12:18] <EvilDucky> ewww
[12:18] <`6og> to much info IMHO :P
[12:18] <intelikey> ear
[12:19] <`6og> oh, your mouse ;P
[12:19] <intelikey> no ear
[12:19] <intelikey> you dirty minded persons
[12:19] <`6og> :$
[12:19] <EvilDucky> Good thing Linux4hymanBeans mutual-respect-manifesto says nothing explicit in respect of non-G-rated explicitness
[12:20] <EvilDucky> err ~hymen~~/human/ho00min
[12:20] <`6og> lol. but i do think that's what -to is for  ;)
[12:20] <`6og> *-to
[12:20] <intelikey> himem
[12:20] <`6og> hm.
[12:20] <`6og> * -offtopic
[12:20] <`6og> damn spelling corrector
[12:20] <EvilDucky> innuendo will get you banned in many channels
[12:21] <`6og> mm.
[12:21] <EvilDucky> (and  =<13 will get you 5-10 in .us)
[12:21] <`6og> um. what was that last code snippet?
[12:22] <EvilDucky> we should make an Evil KickBot and name it 'innuendo'
[12:22] <`6og> lol
[12:22] <EvilDucky> and another called 'association'
[12:22] <EvilDucky> banned (association)
[12:22] <intelikey> ah irc where mem are men,     and women are men,    and children are fbi agents....
[12:22] <Madpilot> intelikey: :D
[12:22] <`6og> hi Madpilot :)
[12:23] <EvilDucky> intelikey, FOoMChROtehFLMLiddleFeatheredTailO
[12:25] <EvilDucky> Xenguy, I used to hang in a channel where we had a dozen 'biatch-bots' named after the .us intel/lawenforc ctty alphabet soup to do our attention-whjoring for us -- hehehe!
[12:25] <EvilDucky> |usss|; |fbi|; |cia| etc
[12:26] <`6og> heh
[12:26] <EvilDucky> intelikey, we'va actually told people  to ping -f 127.0.0.1 and seen them lag out!
[12:26] <`6og> hahahaa
[12:26] <intelikey> :)
[12:26] <EvilDucky> (well, a bit more than that, but you get the idea)
[12:27] <veki> how I can install codecs to watch movies on Ubuntu?
[12:27] <intelikey> !codecs
[12:27] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:27] <veki> thanks I will go there immediatelly
[12:28] <intelikey> wow dl'ing lots of warez from localhost.localdomain now......
[12:28] <EvilDucky> veki, that's a really broad quesation.  Do you want to watch (commercial) DVD; pty quicktime/realplayer/shockwave/WinblowsMedia formats... what?
[12:29] <`6og> Breezy's help is helpfull ohn that front btw
[12:29] <EvilDucky> j00 are the man p|-|RUM  "J00.U.4.R.3.Z", intelikey
[12:30] <EvilDucky> I r ph1n|< 4ll uR sh3||Z 2  the |\/|@N~!!! ZOMG!
[12:31] <intelikey> sorry EvilDucky i anit quite g33k nough to grab that one..... not that i really tried.....
[12:31] <EvilDucky> FGS, autoreplace fixed 'teh' with the and ruined my beautifull l337
[12:32] <EvilDucky> `6og, do it with snort and tcpwrapper -- more phU|\| 4 u!
[12:32] <Peter> :/
[12:32] <EvilDucky> seriously though, check out wwwoffle on sf.net
[12:32] <`6og> EvilDucky: nice idea. ... tcpwrapper :P
[12:33] <EvilDucky> squid is overblown to do something like just filter leet
[12:33] <`6og> EvilDucky: so? ;) i can also use it for something like, um. dunno. caching web pages? :P
[12:33] <EvilDucky> <--- lookit the |\|ikknaym3 d00dz, lookit he nickname!
[12:33] <EvilDucky> hehehe
[12:35] <EvilDucky> What joo mean`6og, your ISP doesn't do that?!?  Then you need X-Wine + MicrosoRft Winblow j00niX IASS 2003!
[12:35] <`6og> <brain implodes>
[12:36] <EvilDucky> now scuse me while I go take my anti-psychotic-troll medz...
[12:36] <`6og> heh
[12:37] <intelikey> mount -t thoughtfs /dev/EvilDucky's/brain  /dev/null -o loop,remount,noread
[12:38] <arnducky> `6og, seriously now, .... ZOMG j)kes writen in bash -- you want me to have to change my undies!
[12:39] <arnducky> 'noread' was a nice touch
[12:39] <intelikey> :)
[12:39] <`6og> for i in $( arnducky); do $i < /dev/zero; done
[12:39] <acvardar> Hi! I am have prepared a GUI application running on ubuntu, but to make it faster i want to make it independent of gnome. which x environment should i use, or can i make it running without x environment?
[12:39] <ookami> is there a way to create a zip file in ubuntu? im seeing it wants to create a .tar.gz
[12:39] <intelikey> yep the greeks are taking over around here......
[12:40] <arnducky> but did you consider using using an FQD and then jsut /dev/brain  (you'd have to escape ('\') the  accent otherwise
[12:40] <`6og> acvardar: you can use gtk or x libs, if it's a gui app it cant run without a gui :|
[12:40] <arnducky> like make it into an rlogin or rsh line
[12:40] <`6og> ookami: gunzip
[12:40] <Black_Hat> ive got a question
[12:40] <`6og> (iirc)
[12:41] <Black_Hat> can i use debian repositories safely in ubuntu?
[12:41] <`6og> no
[12:41] <intelikey> Black_Hat no
[12:41] <arnducky> acvardar, you can but it's abit tricky
[12:41] <`6og> you can use them with a level of risc
[12:41] <Black_Hat> does ubuntu have unstable source trees?
[12:41] <Madpilot> ookami: you have to start Archive Manager to create zip
[12:41] <acvardar> '6og: do i need to consider somethign else to run qt gui application that has opengl ?
[12:41] <intelikey> Black_Hat dapper
[12:41] <Black_Hat> dapper?
[12:41] <`6og> acvardar: I'm not sure. I'm not a programer
[12:42] <`6og> Black_Hat: ubuntu unstable
[12:42] <`6og> (for the moment)
[12:42] <arnducky> acvardar, first you need to either kill or modify your DM (or it gets even more complicated)
[12:42] <pistolero> plz someone can help me to install nvidia video drive?
[12:42] <demon_> hi
[12:42] <acvardar> what is dm ?
[12:42] <demon_> pistolero can you read german?
[12:42] <bimberi> !dapper
[12:42] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[12:42] <intelikey> Black_Hat what would you want newer than the stable repos ?
[12:42] <bimberi> !nvidia
[12:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:42] <Black_Hat> but i cant use unstable sources with breezy or whatever the latest stable release is? or i can again with a level of risk?
[12:43] <arnducky> `6og, can you guys insult my attention-whoring self in regexp and perl too?
[12:43] <demon_> which kernel version is in breezy badger
[12:43] <pistolero> demon_,  no.. im brazilian.. i can only speak in english
[12:43] <demon_> k
[12:43] <bimberi> demon_: 2.6.12
[12:43] <demon_> thx
[12:43] <arnducky> paz, amiche/amigo
[12:43] <intelikey> Black_Hat breezy just released a month ago....
[12:43] <arnducky> Paz, eperance e amor!
[12:43] <`6og> `6og: good regex and any perl is beond me :)
[12:43] <demon_> and after the 12 9 or 10
[12:43] <`6og> * arnducky ^ last comment
[12:43] <arnducky> err 'esperance'
[12:44] <pistolero> !nvidia
[12:44] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:44] <Black_Hat> intelikey but its ubuntus most recent stable release
[12:44] <`6og> (said it to myself :|
[12:44] <arnducky> `6og, I think you're the one that has a loop going... yeah
[12:44] <demon_> and after the 12,  9 or 10
[12:44] <intelikey> yeah and the dapper is on month newer....
[12:44] <bimberi> demon_: uname -r   ->  2.6.12-9-386
[12:44] <pistolero> in the instalation of the nvidia video drive, it says that i dont have kernel-source
[12:44] <Black_Hat> i want to use unstable source lists
[12:44] <Black_Hat> basically
[12:44] <Black_Hat> if that makes sense
[12:44] <demon_> 2.6.12-9 or 2.6.12-10
[12:44] <intelikey> then run dapper
[12:44] <demon_> thx bimberi
[12:45] <bimberi> demon_: but i have an update pending, let me check ...
[12:45] <Black_Hat> intelikey: and if i choose to run breezy? am i again operating with a certain level of risk?
[12:45] <arnducky> `6og, seriously (as I was going to say before the shell jokes), have you tried scanning your ISP to discover a transparent proxy?
[12:45] <yannux> someone already use ndiswrapper 32 bit with 64 bit ubuntu ?
[12:45] <intelikey> well breezy is supposed to be stable.... but there are a few bugs...
[12:45] <bimberi> demon_: aha, 2.6.12-10 is available
[12:46] <ogra> yannux, that wont wok
[12:46] <ookami> anyone know how to generate an MD5 checksum for someone on the other end of receiving the file?
[12:46] <yannux> ogra, Oo ? :s
[12:46] <`6og> arnducky: no i havent. i havent bothered. they have a huge mirror. don't think they proxy as well
[12:46] <Black_Hat> intelikey so i can run unstable on breezy if i wanted?
[12:46] <ogra> yannux, you cant run 32bit drivers with 64 bit kernels
[12:47] <ogra> yannux, you need a 64bit driver
[12:47] <arnducky> With modern browsers doing very aggressive cacheing, I hardly think it's worth it to run squid if you have a both cheap *and* smart ISP largeenough to have other Linux surfers..
[12:47] <yannux> ogra, arf, because windows driver for my wificard does not work with ndiswrapper64bit
[12:47] <intelikey> Black_Hat with less trubble than using deb debs  yes.
[12:47] <`6og> arnducky: i have a server here running squid, i just keep forgetting to point my gear to use it
[12:47] <bimberi> ookami: md5sum <file>
[12:47] <`6og> and it needs some serious config tweaks
[12:47] <arnducky> I bet some of the really big broadband providers have sf.net virtually mirrored, just to economize on Penguin byte transfer
[12:48] <ogra> yannux, what kind of card is this ... i have broadcom working fine here ...
[12:48] <arnducky> `6og, lol
[12:48] <Noobish> http://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy
[12:48] <Noobish> http://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy
[12:48] <yannux> ogra, INPROCOMM IPN 2220
[12:48] <arnducky> 'absent mynded perfesser', huh?
[12:48] <njan> arnducky, mine mirrors most major distro update sites
[12:48] <arnducky> Spamish!
[12:48] <intelikey> !spam
[12:48] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:48] <`6og> arnducky: my ISP has about 1TB of linux - probably more
[12:48] <`6og> mirrored
[12:49] <ogra> yannux, http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=6559&st=0&p=62758&
[12:49] <arnducky> njan, how many LAN client hosts?
[12:49] <ogra> yannux, i got that link myself yesterday, havent tested it yet
[12:49] <Black_Hat> intelikey so is there an ubuntu unstable source tree?
[12:49] <njan> arnducky, tbh I wouldn't think sourceforge was high-bandwidth for most ISPs
[12:49] <arnducky> how many lusers?
[12:49] <njan> arnducky, how many? I have no idea. Lots.
[12:49] <ogra> yannux, acer lappie ?
[12:49] <`6og> arnducky: they have all of Debian, ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, and others (slack and gentoo i think)
[12:49] <njan> arnducky, www.blueyonder.co.uk
[12:49] <Noobish> http://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy
[12:49] <xukun> for my work i need to connect a server using ssh but before that I have make a vpn tunnel , but when I,m running firestarter I get  "Temporary failure in name resolution"  if I try to connect the server using ssh
[12:51] <arnducky> Ahhh, a friend of mine is the founders 'nephew' in .uk.  I keep forgetting to get contact info.  Are they still filtering active FTP and other gak at their DSLAMs?
[12:52] <`6og> a mate has a buisness account with my ISP, and they are shaped to a 1MB connection over http, but ftp is allowed the full 10MB connection they have to the ISP
[12:52] <`6og> so they do all their downloads over ftp ;)
[12:52] <arnducky> I actually had a murder-suicide threat by one of their lusers once in a channel I used to opp and Blueyonder operations staff actually had a flying squad dispatched on my say-so.  I was really impressed.
[12:52] <`6og> the bastard has a 10MB link directly into the ISP's backbone network
[12:52] <yannux> ogra, I test, acer aspire
[12:52] <C-O-L-T> Help me please! I have just installed kubuntu and i can not access my windows file system. How can i make that. pls help me
[12:53] <Elchbulle> Hi
[12:53] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[12:53] <ubotu> [mountwindows]  Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[12:53] <intelikey> !ntfs
[12:53] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:53] <intelikey> C-O-L-T ^
[12:53] <ogra> yannux, same here :) aspire 1520
[12:53] <Elchbulle> Could it be that Ubuntu 5.10 is a alphaversion?
[12:53] <Beleys> Bonjour
[12:53] <C-O-L-T> thanks
[12:53] <arnducky> The kid said he had access to a shotgun and was known to have a violent past.  They took my traceroute and whois data at face value, as well as answering the phone with a human being.
[12:53] <`6og> Elchbulle: no
[12:53] <intelikey> beta maybe ?
[12:54] <Elchbulle> Oh it act as one
[12:54] <`6og> 5.10 is stable
[12:54] <arnducky> Who can upstate ubotu
[12:54] <`6og> anyone
[12:54] <`6og> syntax is 'ubotu something is what it is'
[12:55] <Black_Hat> ubotu where can i find unstable source lists
[12:55] <ubotu> Black_Hat: Not a clue
[12:55] <Black_Hat> haha
[12:55] <Black_Hat> k
[12:55] <arnducky> (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MS also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.
[12:55] <Elchbulle> 6og I installed it 2 hours on a compaqworkstation with a usbkeyboard on, now I try to login but after the I pressed the first key it stops accepting any more keys
[12:56] <Black_Hat> ubotu where can i download dapper
[12:56] <ubotu> Black_Hat: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:56] <Black_Hat> ubotu what is the location of dapper
[12:56] <Elchbulle> so is a usbkeyboard not supported?
[12:56] <ubotu> Black_Hat: what are you talking about?
[12:56] <yannux> ogra, hum seems not good
[12:56] <`6og> Black_Hat: no no no
[12:56] <mindlace> !kernel
[12:56] <`6og> it's !tell me about something
[12:56] <`6og> Elchbulle: sure the keyboard is plugged in?
[12:57] <`6og> i have had no problems with using apple keyboards on my pc (non apple)
[12:57] <dvius> aftertaf! wasup
[12:57] <arnducky> Black_Hat, Ubuntu doesn't have the same release system as Debian with Sid always being Unstable, they try to release every six months like clockwork
[12:57] <Elchbulle> Yes. In the installation it worked
[12:57] <C-O-L-T> Help me again! I am new in Linux and I can not make it. How to see WinXP partition under KUBUNTU
[12:57] <ajus> my fat16 usb disk can't be read in breezy... help please
[12:57] <Hobbsee> !tell C-O-L-T about mount
[12:57] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, system -> administration -> disks
[12:57] <arnducky> wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <`6og> arnducky: tell the bot like this:
[12:57] <C-O-L-T> yes
[12:57] <`6og> hi Hobbsee
[12:57] <mindlace> any (easy) way to replace the existing kernel on the install iso with a more recent one?
[12:57] <`6og> ubotu: NT is  (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MicroSoft also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.
[12:57] <ubotu> okay, `6og
[12:57] <`6og> !NT
[12:57] <ubotu> it has been said that nt is (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MicroSoft also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.
[12:57] <Seveas> mindlace, no, and it would be baf
[12:58] <Elchbulle> `6og in the installation the keyboard works well
[12:58] <Black_Hat> arnducky so its really pointless then to even try and find an unstable source list for apt to use in ubuntu?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hi `6og
[12:58] <arnducky> hmmm, I hope the old entries are cached
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Black_Hat about repos
[12:58] <mindlace> baf, Seveas?
[12:58] <intelikey> yes Black_Hat that's what i said way ^ up there.
[12:58] <Seveas> mindlace, ?
[12:58] <`6og> btw Hobbsee, it's kamping_kaiser ;)
[12:58] <Seveas> bad
[12:58] <Seveas> not baf :)
[12:58] <arnducky> I wouldn't want to replace anything usefull with something merely trivial -- nor a well-written entry with bac grammar.
[12:58] <`6og> hi Seveas :)
[12:59] <Hobbsee> ah, i was wondering who it was!  why arent you using your regular nick?
[12:59] <mindlace> The thing is, my RAID isn't detected in 2.6.12
[12:59] <mindlace> but it is in 2.6.13+
[12:59] <`6og> Hobbsee: i join another channel using this nic, and instead of doing my usual join, i just expanded with this one
[12:59] <Black_Hat> ahhh ok. and that link was exactly what i needed
[12:59] <Black_Hat> thanks!
[12:59] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:59] <`6og> :)
[12:59] <mindlace> so I was hoping to change the install disk to have a better version of the kernel...
[12:59] <arnducky> I think this was the most likely part of the entry To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPar
[01:00] <Elchbulle> Anyone know why USB Keyboards arent supported by Ubuntu?
[01:00] <mindlace> they are, elchbulle.
[01:00] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, aren't they ?
[01:00] <`6og> Elchbulle: i have had no problems
[01:00] <Elchbulle> NO!
[01:00] <intelikey> Elchbulle they aren't ????
[01:00] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, i'm pretty sure they are :)
[01:00] <arnducky> Also we should mention ntfsprog pkgy (provides ntfstools SA ntfsmount ntfsfix ntfsresize which are integrated in parted now)
[01:00] <Elchbulle> Its a normal cherryusbkeyboard with NO extras
[01:00] <mindlace> The wireless microsoft usb keyboard worked just find
[01:00] <mindlace> fine
[01:00] <Elchbulle> MrFarts you are wrong
[01:01] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, i don't think so :)
[01:01] <Seveas> Elchbulle, usb keyboards are supported
[01:01] <Seveas> or else these words could not have been typed
[01:01] <Madpilot> Elchbulle: a friend even has a wireless kb & mouse that work fine
[01:01] <Elchbulle> Why does it STOP working after I type the first letter?
[01:01] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, maybe you have something weird going on in the BIOS
[01:01] <Elchbulle> Mouse still works
[01:01] <`6og> Elchbulle: i have had 2 (usb) apple keyboards and my ps2 keyboard plugged into my pc at one time
[01:01] <`6og> all working fine
[01:02] <arnducky> Speaking of keyboards, ahs anyone played around with getting fancy keys to work (like the home, calculator, browsing and multimedia functions)?
[01:02] <Elchbulle> 6og doenst help me here
[01:02] <MrFarts> arnducky, i haven't played around with the, but they all work
[01:02] <mindlace> it looks like I'll have to take (yet another) drive, install the OS to it, then install a newer kernel on it, then move everything to the raid array
[01:02] <`6og> fraid not Elchbulle
[01:02] <`6og> arnducky: on my multimedia keyboard some work
[01:02] <`6og> some don't (ms multimedia kbd)
[01:02] <mindlace> which I was kind of hoping to avoid.
[01:02] <Elchbulle> So what to do?
[01:02] <Seveas> Elchbulle, try another USB port, if possible with no other usb appliances plugged in - just to test
[01:03] <MrFarts> mindlace, raid array ?
[01:03] <Elchbulle> Seveas I will try
[01:03] <Elchbulle> bbl
[01:03] <MrFarts> mindlace, you have an array of RAIDS ? :)
[01:03] <arnducky> MrFarts, how do I do it?  (If nothing pre-exists) Is there an XKPB ruleset builder GTK2+ mod or anything yet?
[01:03] <mindlace> thbbt.
[01:03] <MrFarts> arnducky, i have no idea; i don't use those keys anyway
[01:04] <intelikey> <--- usb ignorant,  are usb kbds hotplugable ?
[01:04] <`6og> intelikey: yes
[01:04] <intelikey> k
[01:04] <`6og> arnducky: you can set keys with the 'setkey code keybinding' IIRC
[01:04] <`6og> or similar
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> Help somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> Guide me please
[01:05] <arnducky> setkey_code() <-- a TCL or Perl (or whatever) FN()?
[01:06] <arnducky> BBIAB -- will look for NICKNAME prefaced posts upon return
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> elp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:06] <MrFarts> C-O-L-T, you need to mount the disk
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> yes
[01:06] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, system -> administration -> disks
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> but how?
[01:06] <`6og> arnducky: [4568923.194000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[01:06] <`6og> ^ from my dmesg
[01:06] <Seveas> you can mount them there
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> but hoq
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> w
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> I have never done something like that
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> I use windows for 10 years
[01:07] <Elchbulle> ahh okay ubuntu cant handle two usb devices. Lucky I have still a ps/2 mouse here
[01:07] <Myrtti> :-o
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> elp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:07] <Seveas> Elchbulle, Ubuntu can perfectly fine handle that
[01:07] <intelikey> Elchbulle yeah it can
[01:07] <Seveas> unless one of the devices is vroken
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> Help somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:07] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, do you even listen?
[01:07] <Elchbulle> Seveas not really, Seveas with suse it runs perfectly
[01:07] <`6og> C-O-L-T: don't spam
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> Yes i Listen
[01:07] <Myrtti> And repeating the question when we perfectly heard it the first time sure does help
[01:08] <C-O-L-T> I am in administration disks
[01:08] <C-O-L-T> what to do then?
[01:08] <Seveas> Elchbulle, try dmesg after it errors out and see what that gives
[01:08] <Madpilot> Elchbulle: I've got three USB devices running right now, all just fine, and I've had up to five at one point...
[01:08] <Elchbulle> mom
[01:08] <pistolero> hey..
[01:08] <ompaul> C-O-L-T, wait until someone tells you - they are busy with others
[01:08] <ompaul> !tell C-O-L-T about ntfs
[01:08] <C-O-L-T> but how much
[01:08] <Seveas> Elchbulle, if you put the dmesg output on the pastebin we can all have a look :)
[01:08] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, go to 'partitions', select your partition and set the 'access path'
[01:09] <DelPede> I can't get NIS working in Ubuntu 5.10. Didn't have any problems in 5.04. The client will not bind to the ypserver. Anyone got any clues?
[01:09] <`6og> bbl. hacking a wikipage
[01:11] <cliebow__> anyone have thoughts on segmentation fault with kppp in breezy??i have lucent drivers built and modem woich is not exactly friendly for this windows centric user switching overrks in wvdial..wh
[01:11] <cliebow__> sorry laptop has gone yoda again
[01:13] <cliebow__> anyone have thoughts on segmentation fault with kppp in breezy??i have lucent drivers built and modem works in wvdial..network-admin seems not to initiate dialup sequence..kpp segfaults
[01:13] <ookami> why would i have email if i have not even set up an email account yet? according to GKrellM i have 8/8 mail...
[01:14] <ookami> but i cant see them...
[01:14] <pistolero> how do i install warcraft III in ubuntu ?
[01:15] <Elchbulle> Okay Ubuntu isnt working. I get back to SuSE or maybe I try the originall debian for a working system.
[01:15] <Elchbulle> I will maybe try ubuntu when it isnt still alpha
[01:16] <b_e_n_z> Elchbulle, good bye dummy
[01:16] <Elchbulle> b_e_n_z muahaha
[01:16] <bob_4_a_day> b_e_n_z be nice...
[01:16] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, can anyone assist me in installing automake-1.7 and/or give reference materials ?
[01:16] <pistolero> how do i install warcraft3?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: what problems are you having with it?  sudo apt-get install automake1.7
[01:17] <WebLOCH> pistolero, thats covered in the User Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraftHowto
[01:17] <bob_4_a_day> WebLOCH 'sudo apt-get install build-essentual '
[01:17] <Hobbsee> that too
[01:18] <Seveas> b_e_n_z: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:19] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, bob_4_a_day : sorry guys my bad, made a spelling mistake before, everythings loading now
[01:20] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: :)
[01:20] <C-O-L-T> I have problem with autoconfiguring partitions
[01:21] <MrFarts> C-O-L-T, you have a problem with a lot of things
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> probably
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> I will delete ubuntu
[01:21] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if Luminocity will be part of GNOME any time soon?
[01:21] <shorty> hah, why? :P
[01:21] <MrFarts> C-O-L-T, sounds like a plan
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> iT IS TOO HARD FOR ME
[01:21] <shorty> bwahahah
[01:21] <shorty> you're not trying
[01:22] <shorty> computers aren't for everyone. :P
[01:22] <bob_4_a_day> MrFarts ?
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> Anyway thanks
[01:22] <Shorty_> but seriously though
[01:22] <Shorty_> what problems are you having?
[01:22] <MrFarts> Shorty_, general retardation
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> I can not configure my windows partitions
[01:23] <bob_4_a_day> MrFarts who put a bur under your saddel ?
[01:23] <Shorty_> configure them how
[01:23] <Yannick_R> hello
[01:24] <Yannick_R> I have some troubles ever since I compiled my 2.6.14.2 kernel
[01:24] <MrFarts> bob_4_a_day, how long have you been in the channel /
[01:24] <MrFarts> bob_4_a_day, he's been spamming for the last 20 minutes or so
[01:25] <Yannick_R> my usbkeys and cdrom are not longer automounting, and if I start under the ubuntu kernel it works
[01:25] <Dark_Sith> hello peeps
[01:25] <Yannick_R> I was wondering, maybe I forgot a patch or a module, could you guys help me ?
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yannick_R: check you compiled in usb support
[01:26] <Yannick_R> I can mount my key with command line, mount /dev/sda1 /media/key
[01:28] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, this script is telling me i need to install zlib, but doesnt specify which libraries, apt-cache search returns a whole bunch, don't suppose you have any suggestions?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: what are you compiling?
[01:29] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, luminocity
[01:29] <dvius> im back. wasup
[01:29] <bob_4_a_day> say
[01:30] <dvius> hey aftertaf...
[01:30] <bob_4_a_day> haven't see aftertaf all morning....
[01:30] <dvius> ah well
[01:30] <dvius> ta
[01:30] <borup> WebLOCH: btw luminocity is not likely to ever be part of gnome - thats the point of it
[01:30] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: not much of an expert on this, but try zlib1g
[01:31] <blizzkid> Lo all. Anyone knows about a way to get incoming call alerts from a mobile phone in gnome?
[01:31] <dvius> u running asterisk?
[01:31] <dvius> blizzkid: u runnin asterisk
[01:31] <dvius> ?
[01:31] <blizzkid> dvius: can you run asterisk on ubuntu?
[01:32] <blizzkid> I thaught it was a seperate distro?
[01:32] <WebLOCH> borup, its got a few pages on the gnome project site, I assumed it would eventually make it into gnome
[01:32] <dvius> mmm, probably, but wouldnt recommend using it on your everyday pc. best to setup on standalone apparantly,
[01:33] <dvius> nah asterisk isnt a seperate distro, you install ontop of another... asterisk@home is whole distro though
[01:33] <bob_4_a_day> !info asterisk
[01:33] <dvius> but strom reckons it sux
[01:33] <ubotu> asterisk: (open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX)), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.9.dfsg-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1061 kB, Installed size: 2992 kB
[01:33] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, already installed it seems to think
[01:33] <blizzkid> dvius, I tried kmobiletools, but once connected, after 15 seconds the connection is lost. gnome-phone-manager doesn't connect at all, and btcid sits there and doesn't do a thing
[01:33] <borup> WebLOCH: bits of it will
[01:33] <bimberi> dvius: no, it's a software package, available in a universe repository near you
[01:34] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: zlib1g-dev
[01:34] <bimberi> dvius: oops, missed your last post :)
[01:34] <blizzkid> and does asterisk offer call alerts for bluetooth phones?
[01:35] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, cheers, that did the trick
[01:35] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: :D
[01:35] <borup> WebLOCH: but luminocity is a toy, purely proof of concept (check the readme its funny)
[01:35] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: i did an apt-cache search for zlib dev and that was one of the things that came up
[01:35] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, at least i assume it did, screaming terminal output is a dubious way of showing "success"
[01:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:36] <nydust> hey. I am running the live cd on a laptop, and i need to mount the HD. But when i mount it to /mnt i dont have permissions to read.. why=
[01:36] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, yeah I saw it earlier but made assumptions about the 'lg' on the end, which is where i went wrong
[01:36] <Hobbsee> *nods*
[01:36] <nydust> what is the root password on the live cd?
[01:36] <arkanes> WebLOCH: use jhbuild to compile Luminocity and it's dependencies, it knows what to do
[01:37] <blizzkid> bimberi, does asterisk offer call alerts for bluetooth phones?
[01:37] <WebLOCH> arkanes, I did, it keeps prompting me with problems, that zlib was one of them
[01:37] <bob_4_a_day> nydust mount it -o umask=0       and root passwd.... use user passwd.
[01:37] <WebLOCH> arkanes, now i have a new one refering to a bunch of unment dependancies :P
[01:37] <nydust> how do i enable the root account?
[01:37] <dvius> well gotta go...gotta tru and get this bloody nvidia to work... good luck blizzkid
[01:37] <WebLOCH> arkanes, which dont appear to be available in apt
[01:37] <dvius> *try
[01:37] <bimberi> blizzkid: don't know sorry
[01:37] <blizzkid> ty dvius
[01:38] <bob_4_a_day> nydust you would have to set a root passwd.    'sudo passwd '
[01:38] <dvius> np blizzkid
[01:38] <arkanes> WebLOCH: well, zlib is zlib-dev, and it's quite enormously common
[01:38] <arkanes> so perhaps jhbuild assumes that you already have it
[01:39] <WebLOCH> arkanes, that wasnt the zlib library it was after, i did have it
[01:39] <bob_4_a_day> system wont load without zlib
[01:40] <arnducky> 0x e02a = %____ (decimal hex)
[01:40] <arkanes> WebLOCH: it almost certainly was that zlib library, it just didn't know how to find it
[01:40] <arnducky> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  NTFS support und
[01:40] <arnducky> er Linux is provided by the Debian package, which is maintained by Linux-NTFS Project found at ntfsprog http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (formerly hosted at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  [Freenode #Ubuntu Ubotu wiki revised by arnducky [Wed 23-NOV-2005 0540h MST]  (GMT-7h)]  ***Comments or hat/e-mail may be addressed to <4 |) |\/| 1 |\| @arnducky.net>***
[01:40] <ubotu> ...but ntfs is already something else...
[01:40] <bob_4_a_day> if you don't beleive it check what depends on it.
[01:40] <arnducky> hmmmm...
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: forget ntfs
[01:41] <ubotu> i forgot ntfs, Kamping_Kaiser
[01:41] <WebLOCH> arkanes, well I didnt tell it how to, so unless the system worked it out, by itself, you are wrong
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.
[01:41] <ubotu> okay, Kamping_Kaiser
[01:41] <arnducky> =oD
[01:41] <WebLOCH> arkanes, however after installing zliblg it worked... :P
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:41] <arnducky> You actually liked it?!?
[01:42] <arnducky> !copyleft
[01:42] <ubotu> arnducky: What?
[01:42] <arnducky> there's one!
[01:42] <arnducky> hehehehe
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh.. hpfs is esentialy irrelevent, but still
[01:43] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, that part is for the history and business types
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: sure, i didnt know that, but for the average user (who needs that help) it's basicly irrelevent to them
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> infact, it is totaly irrelevent :)
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can make an hpfs, but don't clog the bot to hard :)
[01:44] <arnducky> Probably, the ony usefull new info is the part that got gut off about NTFSTOOLS (nfsprog; libntfs;...etc.)
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> !zfs
[01:44] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I don't know
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> ah someone gotta add zeta ...
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: add one for ntfstools iff you want
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> or i can readd ntfs
[01:45] <arnducky> Is ubotu content protectedfrom MS-style public domain raiding?
[01:45] <arnducky> !copyright
[01:45] <ubotu> arnducky: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:45] <ashwani> hi aimaz
[01:46] <arnducky> !gpl
[01:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, arnducky
[01:46] <ashwani> aleksi hi
[01:46] <arnducky> !fsf
[01:46] <ubotu> arnducky: I haven't a clue
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> in what way?
[01:46] <arnducky> !osi
[01:46] <ubotu> arnducky: Wish i knew
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> domain raiding?
[01:46] <bob_4_a_day> !gnu
[01:46] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, bob_4_a_day
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: a short and sweet bit to add to ntfs entry regarding ntfstools pls
[01:46] <ashwani> DO ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE CUPS SO THAT I COULD LOG WHO SENT WHAT PRINT JOBS AND HOW MANY PAGES
[01:46] <bob_4_a_day> link to the gnu web page ?
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't shout
[01:47] <bob_4_a_day> gnu.org ?
[01:47] <ashwani> CUPS KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't shout
[01:47] <arnducky> AHhh, right and how about a chain reference from the end of the ntfs  entry --> ntfstools
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: so far: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> you have about 1.5 lines for ntfs tools
[01:48] <snowowl> I think the Breezy kernel update screwed my LimeWire
[01:48] <salmenara> hi !!
[01:49] <salmenara> How can I listen to mp3 with totem?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[01:49] <snowowl> hello
[01:49] <bob_4_a_day> !gnu
[01:49] <ubotu> gnu is, like, totally, Like go read http://gnu.org and learn about free software.
[01:49] <arnducky> What's the char limit -- same as this server MAXLEN?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: can i recomend an mp3 player for playing mp3s? ;)
[01:49] <arnducky> I have my text ed open with draft - it can cound lines or chars.
[01:49] <salmenara> xmms?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: not sure exactly it's *about* 5 or 6 lines
[01:49] <arnducky> -d/+t
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ubotu
[01:49] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: check the limit there
[01:50] <arnducky> TYVM
[01:50] <snowowl> sal: you can find the information by typing "unofficial Ubuntu Guide" into your favorite search engine
[01:50] <arnducky> BBIAB
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, no no :$
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: if your using Breezy look in the help, in the starter guide
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's in tere
[01:50] <snowowl> for xmms just apt-get install ffmpeg
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> *there
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> and you don't have to break your system with ubuntuguide
[01:51] <salmenara> Kamping_Kaiser: how can I edit the *.mp3 file association from totem to xmms ?
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: if you install xmms it should do it by itself
[01:51] <nxv_> how do i install vim colorschemes?
[01:51] <salmenara> Kamping_Kaiser: Where is the starter guide?
[01:51] <arnducky> ahhh, mime types -- that could utilize it's own bot with a dedicated DB backend
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: system -> help -> ubuntu 5.10 starter guide
[01:51] <arnducky> ;-)
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> no crap arnducky ;)
[01:52] <_jason> nxv_, try #vim
[01:53] <nxv_> _jason: no packages there in ubuntu ?
[01:53] <arnducky> hmmm... I want to put something in about fuse (since libntfs may be essentially useless w/o it for most luser(sic)).
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> fuse?
[01:54] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, is it possible to get a dump of the bot
[01:54] <_jason> nxv_, i don't know
[01:54] <arnducky> 'Files Under User Space'?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell arnducky about bot
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> there should be a list of what the bot knows on that page that got linked to
[01:55] <arnducky> kute but kryptik, Kamping_Kaiser
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> remember you can say 'or ask me about !ntfs tools'
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:55] <_jason> nxv_, I think you just cp the color scheme somewhere in ~/.vim but you are better off asking in #vim
[01:55] <arnducky> Are you a KDE/Kubuntu maven?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ~/.vimrc
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> me? nah
[01:56] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser is just kickier than Camping_Czar?
[01:56] <nxv_> and where do i get it? i have found a nice page with scheme demo but no download there: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~maverick/VimColorSchemeTest/index-c.html
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: have you seen counter stick? the flash animation?
[01:56] <arnducky> no (not yet...)
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's about a group of CS playing stick figures
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> ones called carl and he camps...
[01:57] <arnducky> I've seen stick figur pR0n...
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm called Karl and i  play(ed) CS...
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:57] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm crap!    mount: must be superuser to use mount    and ,users, is in the fstab.....  ?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> what was the command you ran?
[01:57] <arnducky> (I Kuite liKed it aKtually)
[01:58] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: beware that "users" is different semantically from "user"
[01:58] <bob_4_a_day> crimsun yeah i know.
[01:58] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, are you a ubotu master?
[01:58] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: in any case, pmount is more in line with what you want.
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: no, i just know a few of the commands
[01:58] <arnducky> host-owner/admin?
[01:59] <bob_4_a_day> i don't think it is avalable here.
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: no, the bots open
[01:59] <ninou> i do not understand the network/interfaces file
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: http://www.stickpage.com/counterstickseries.shtml
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ninou: what trips you up?
[01:59] <arnducky> But it *listened* to  you when you used 'forget' -- that seems sKarey.
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> (me throws away any concept of work tonight)
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> *musters dark forces*
[02:00] <bob_4_a_day> crimsun what package provides pmount ?
[02:00] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: @2330? lol
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. yeh.
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was going to do some work on the wiki. (amoung other things)
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> so much for that
[02:01] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: 'pmount'
[02:01] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[02:01] <bob_4_a_day> oh wait, removing the setuid bit on /bin/mount has caused this....  nm
[02:01] <amnezia> anybody has a slow usb mouse when copying from CD/DVD?
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: you in sa or nt?
[02:02] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: act
[02:02] <amnezia> I am getting this on 2 totally different machines
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> amnezia: i have a slow mouse, i think it's because of load
[02:02] <bob_4_a_day> thanks crimsun i was right it's not avalable to me.
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: huh? your not on central time :S
[02:02] <crimsun> !info pmount
[02:02] <ubotu> pmount: (mount removable devices as normal user), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[02:02] <crimsun> it's in main
[02:02] <arnducky> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  For more details about NTFS support under Linux, see also: ntfstools. Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.
[02:02] <ubotu> ...but ntfs is already something else...
[02:02] <amnezia> Kamping_Kaiser:  no way. I never have slow mouse when booting my own custom kernel, not Ubuntu's
[02:02] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: nope, aedt here.  Greetings from tomorrow :P
[02:02] <bob_4_a_day> but not in rpms for my distro.
[02:03] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: lol :P
[02:03] <LinuxN00bie> hello, Canon MP 110 3 in 1 or HP 1410 3 in 1 which one is better for ubuntu?
[02:03] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: the source is available in the repositories
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: i thought you must be central because of this line -> (23:30:19) bimberi: Kamping_Kaiser: @2330? lol
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> exact same time ;)
[02:03] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, I was referring to M$ stealing public domain software (i.e. 'MS' DOS)
[02:04] <bob_4_a_day> yes i could build it.    but i don't like doing that.    specially when there is other ways of getting to the same place.
[02:04] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: ah, no i knew because of ...adl4.internode...
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: ah ok. i don't remember DOS being public domain
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: ah, ok. ;) i didnt think of that
[02:05] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> you should jump on your roo some time and hop over for a barbie :P
[02:07] <bob_4_a_day> yep chmod +s /bin/mount now users can mount cdroms static mounting....  none of that automatic junk....
[02:07] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[02:08] <arnducky> The original authors never bothered to assert copyright when they released the precursor of MS-DOS and PC-DOS (which IS open Sourced by IBM) AFAIK which made it public domain.  Unfortunatly it's still 'open season' on 'informal' public domain even afer the advent of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Richard M. Stallman's aadvocacy.  This is why we bother to 'copyleft' things even when we don't intend to do 'commercial open sour
[02:08] <arnducky> ce'.
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ok.
[02:08] <arnducky> Another realated historical example is the .zip file format and the Pkware copyright infringement case.
[02:09] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: roo = qantas :)
[02:09] <bimberi> ?
[02:09] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, I've always wondered whether that is an emoticon or _whut_...
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: i was thinking the hoppers, but you know ;)
[02:09] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm when using 'eject -x# ' it must stay set even when disks are ejected.....   i didn't know that.
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: yeh, emoticon
[02:09] <bimberi> lol
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> imangine japanese emoticons... mm...
[02:10] <arnducky> Whutzitmean, wutzitmean?
[02:10] <mathieudz> how can i find which package 'dos2unix' is in?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: one eye realy open, one half open
[02:10] <arnducky> oh that anismiley gak
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> as in 'wtf'
[02:10] <bob_4_a_day> dos2unix is in dos2unix
[02:11] <arnducky> Like the .us Cartoon strip cat, Bill [Bloom County] ?
[02:11] <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: hmm. ic. my archive listings are gone. needed an update first
[02:11] <bob_4_a_day> well not in ubuntu it seems...
[02:11] <bob_4_a_day> mathieudz it is install by default though.
[02:12] <michuk> hello
[02:12] <bob_4_a_day> you can do a apt-cache search dos2unix mathieudz to find it.
[02:12] <greedyb> hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu on a laptop and Ive installed the Nvidia Drivers.. I was wondering how I can get my S-Video out to work.  I really depend on it, the VGA out works just as normal but when I hit fn+f8 nothing switches.  Any ideas?
[02:12] <mathieudz> "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "dos2unix"
[02:12] <michuk> i have a question. i hqve to windows systems on my hard drive now, win 2000 on c: (primary) and win XP on d (extended partition)
[02:12] <mathieudz> argh
[02:13] <michuk> i want to keep win XP and install ubuntu on my primary partition
[02:13] <michuk> is it safe?
[02:13] <JDahl> michuk, quite safe, I think
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: should be ok
[02:13] <bob_4_a_day> michuk sure
[02:13] <aeon17x> michuk: you have to shrink the space available for winXP, but that's about it.
[02:13] <michuk> ok i'll blame you if something gets screwed up :)
[02:14] <bob_4_a_day> aeon17x ?
[02:14] <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: still not found..
[02:14] <JDahl> michuk, the partition shrinker in the Ubuntu installer worked perfectly fine for me
[02:14] <michuk> so there's no problem with booting windows from grub while windows is on the extended partition?
[02:14] <aeon17x> bob_4_a_day: He said it was installed on his primary partition.
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> aeon17x: depends how much space 2k had
[02:14] <arnducky> Yikes, the Sw0edish wikings are landing on the Ubuntu beach -- head for the hills!  (Women children and dux 1st!)
[02:14] <bob_4_a_day> JDahl ?
[02:14] <JDahl> bob_4_a_day, ?
[02:14] <arnducky> No1Viking
[02:14] <michuk> i just want to replace win2000 with ubuntu, no changes in partitions
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: how big is your 2k parititon?
[02:15] <JDahl> michuk, that's even easier then
[02:15] <No1Viking> arnducky, yes?
[02:15] <arnducky> Ahhh, michuk I'm composing ntfs wiki as we chat
[02:15] <greedyb> anyone have any ideas about my s-video problem?
[02:15] <bob_4_a_day> yeah..... i dont know why these guys are trying to get you to break things michuk  ?????
[02:15] <michuk> Kamping_Kaiser: it's 28 GB
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> greedyb: all i can sugest is look in the wiki for nvidia and svidoe, i remember something about it
[02:16] <arnducky> Your nickname!  (more polite than 'your momma', hopefully)
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> then no resize needed
[02:16] <arnducky> greedyb, v4l
[02:16] <arnducky> and gatos and dri
[02:16] <arnducky> google em
[02:16] <Enquest> Is there here someone who know how to capture a stream?
[02:16] <arnducky> Enquest, as I told greedyb
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> Enquest: mencoder or steamsomething
[02:16] <bob_4_a_day> michuk ignore all the 'shrink' 'change' and 'break' your partitions advise and install it the way you planed.
[02:17] <arnducky> michuk, man ntfsresize
[02:17] <Enquest> I use the following command mplayer -noframedrop -dumpfile dollar.rm -dumpstream http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlicht/bb.20051120.rm?start=0:0:0
[02:17] <arnducky> man fuserd
[02:17] <Enquest> but it won't work
[02:17] <bob_4_a_day> michuk it will work just fine.
[02:17] <arnducky> (FUSE)
[02:17] <michuk> bob_4_a_day: you are sure it wont make windows unbootable, right?
[02:17] <arnducky> man parted | gparted | qtparted
[02:18] <arnducky> michuk, backup your mbr and doze pt'n then you anc much around as much  as you want
[02:18] <michuk> how to backup mbr from withing windows?
[02:18] <arnducky> michuk, ewww
[02:18] <michuk> i have windows boot manager now
[02:19] <michuk> with choice of win2000 and winxp
[02:19] <arnducky> that's nasty unless you have commercial software (or unless you mount the drive in another machine)
[02:19] <michuk> and hope it will be replaced with grub with choice of ubuntu and winxp after all
[02:19] <animal> i just installed nVidiaDrivers and i was wodering if there is some kind  of software i can make configs in
[02:19] <bob_4_a_day> grub may not find your windows xp boot loader but these guys can help you tell grub how to find it without effert....
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> animal: nvidia-settings IIRC
[02:19] <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: actually it's in 'sysutils' not in 'dos2unix'
[02:20] <animal> Kamping_Kaiser, what?
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: the question is wether xp has it's bootloader on the 2k partition - i think the answer is yes
[02:20] <bob_4_a_day> mathieudz i told you <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: hmm. ic. my archive listings are gone. needed an update first
 well not in ubuntu it seems...
[02:20] <michuk> yes, on the 2k partition
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> now if you nuke the 2k partition, you lose the boot loader
[02:20] <michuk> 2k was first
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> not just 'i need to point back to it' but 'it's realy gone'
[02:21] <arnducky> Symantec's Ghost asn Partition Magic (bought out from PowerQuest) lines now support Ext3 as well as all the WinGakFSes, but gparted is *supposed* to do all the same stuff now
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: i *think* what you can do, is remove 2k, then boot with the xp cd, and 'mbr recover'
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> then restore grub
[02:21] <bob_4_a_day> mathieudz the package is dos2unix that i install here but not in ubuntu, it's packaged differently.
[02:21] <greedyb> whats the best way to restartx
[02:21] <greedyb> ?
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> greedyb: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:22] <greedyb> wow
[02:22] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, what's a good trigger for a WIn --> Linux multiboot (migration) strategy?   I could write a howto on that too (though not a concise one).
[02:22] <greedyb> thats long
[02:22] <greedyb> lol
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol greedyb
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: an it person who has to use linux for a uni degree
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> generaly they like a 'normal user' and a 'it pro'
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> show it's for everyone ;)
[02:23] <bob_4_a_day> i'd say '<greedyb> whats the best way to restartx'  ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:23] <michuk> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, so i guess it's more risky than i thought
[02:23] <arnducky> michuk, the boot code must always fit within the first 64K (max)
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: normal user wants to escape from viri/worms, so says, try ubuntu
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: yeh.
[02:24] <michuk> oh
[02:24] <arnducky> All M$ products *require* their boot loader on the  first device on the first controller (aside from boot emulation)
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob_4_a_day: true. could have said that
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> and the ms boot loader may only be used for ms os's
[02:25] <bidbei> ya des frenchies ici
[02:25] <Gkane> hi
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi'
[02:25] <arnducky> Although second, and subsquent installs of M$ will happilly boot from even logical partitions outside of the 1023 cylinder limit
[02:26] <michuk> ok, i'll do it another way around then
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: does booting grub onto the second partition count as 'emulation',. i think it does
[02:26] <arnducky> They all MUST write to the bootsector where the first M$ product
[02:26] <arnducky> nononon
[02:26] <bob_4_a_day> arnducky and other devices too
[02:26] <imc1> Any way to get software 256-bit key AES encryption on Ubuntu ?
[02:26] <michuk> i'll shrink the last partiion (with winxp) and install linux on what is left
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: you can resize your 2k partition down to 5m
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> then leave the boot code there ;)
[02:26] <arnducky> I'm jsut giving yout he background -- dont' give up -- that;'s where LILO and GRUB come in
[02:27] <arnducky> GRUB and LILO 'lie' to M$ boot functions
[02:27] <bob_4_a_day> michuk ?
[02:27] <michuk> but wait, does Windows boot loader install on MBR or on partition's firsrt sector?
[02:27] <Gkane> I reinstalled windowhi
[02:27] <Gkane> hi*
[02:27] <arnducky> this is not the same as emulation (I was referring to the BIOS)
[02:27] <arnducky> michuk, it does
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lool. what does it arnducky?
[02:27] <arnducky> The first sector orf IDE-0 pt'n 1 normally
[02:28] <bob_4_a_day> just rm hda1  make new linux part and badabing install the thing.
[02:28] <rysiu> siema siema jest ktos z polski ??
[02:28] <arnducky> It's really nasty to try anything else
[02:28] <Gkane> how can i reinstall grub?
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> rysiu: English only in here
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gkane: using the install cd
[02:28] <rysiu> oki
[02:28] <emurz> hello is it possible to let realplayer work with alsa?
[02:28] <arnducky> What GRUB and LILO do are write around the MS code that has to live there
[02:28] <Gkane> im now with a live-cd online but i dont know how to reinstall grub
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gkane: get the install cd -> on prompt type 'rescue' -> something
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> !restoregrub
[02:29] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> !grub
[02:29] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <- that link
[02:29] <arnducky> Gkane, # apt-get remove --purge grub && apt-get install grub
[02:29] <devilz_> hi can someone help me with ntfs partitions
[02:29] <devilz_> i have Hda1 in my Desktop
[02:29] <devilz_> and when i press it
[02:29] <devilz_> i get permisson denied
[02:30] <devilz_> i'm not owner
[02:30] <arnducky> Heh, wouldja lookit this, Kamping_Kaiser (I should hurry up and add that bot wiki)
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> usermask
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> devilz_: edit your fstab and add 'usermask=0777' to the options IIRC
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's tomorrow!
[02:31] <arnducky> emurz, re: realplayer: yes
[02:31] <arnducky> !alsa
[02:31] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[02:31] <blizzkid> is there a way to quickly get an overview of all installed aps that are installed from source?
[02:31] <WebLOCH> anyone fancy giving me some assistance with luminocity?  i get as far as  checking for XSERVER... configure: error: Package requirements (randrproto....
[02:31] <devilz_> Kamping_Kaiser, is it safe?
[02:31] <bob_4_a_day> usermask ????   umask ?
[02:31] <arnducky> emurz -- it's theoretically possible to get ALSA to work with anything since it's a driver
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> blizzkid: no
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob_4_a_day: umask
[02:31] <arnducky> arts is a sound *daemon*
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> devilz_: yes, if you put the right things in
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ntfs
[02:32] <arnducky> It can 'manage/provide' your drivers
[02:32] <blizzkid> and is there an easy way to remove these apps?
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell devilz_ about ntfs
[02:32] <arnducky> OOpss brb
[02:32] <devilz_> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0777 0       0
[02:32] <devilz_> i have this
[02:32] <michuk> ok so once more.... what is the safest way to install ubuntu and not lose my Windows XP boot information?
[02:32] <arnducky> !tell me about ntfs
[02:32] <michuk> cuz i think i'm lost
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: i cant honestly tell you the safest way. i can only gues
[02:33] <michuk> ok, guess
[02:33] <arnducky> It's broken, I'll add it again
[02:33] <arnducky> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  For more details about NTFS support under Linux, see also: ntfstools. Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.
[02:33] <ubotu> ...but ntfs is already something else...
[02:34] <arnducky> Why is the bot not posting the 'something else' -- even in pvt msg?
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: don't copyleft. it's not worth it ;)
[02:34] <raingrove> playing with linux is bad when u are having exams
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol raingrove
[02:34] <raingrove> wasted so much time on it
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: what 'something else'?
[02:34] <raingrove> installing and reinstalling and playing with this and that
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'wasted'? ah... no :)
[02:35] <raingrove> and somehow i dont get bored
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> raingrove: then welcome to the dark side
[02:35] <raingrove> and time passes very fast
[02:35] <raingrove> damn
[02:35] <ZzeCoOl> Hello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> and i have solaris, saying ubuntu is the dark side *lol*
[02:35] <bob_4_a_day> raingrove that's it! you are ruined.  you are a real linux user now.....
[02:36] <raingrove> oh no
[02:36] <raingrove> my grades will suffer
[02:36] <bob_4_a_day> yep
[02:36] <bob_4_a_day> your life will too
[02:36] <raingrove> haha
[02:36] <raingrove> i better turn the computer off
[02:36] <raingrove> otherwise i can't concentrate
[02:36] <ZzeCoOl> and your brain gonna burn
[02:36] <raingrove> see ya folks
[02:36] <ZzeCoOl> u also gonna lose your girlfriend
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[02:36] <ZzeCoOl> and friends
[02:36] <ZzeCoOl> lol
[02:37] <ZzeCoOl> :P~
[02:37] <raingrove> cya
[02:37] <bob_4_a_day> but you can't.....  you may force a reboot, but you can't turn it off....
[02:37] <ZzeCoOl> linux + bsd are evil
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol ZzeCoOl you mean you had a gf to start with? ;P
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> down goes your geek cred!
[02:37] <ZzeCoOl> one more time
[02:37] <ZzeCoOl> Hello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)
[02:37] <Astxist> Come to the darkside get a free cookie
[02:38] <Astxist> ZzeCoOl, no idea how to do that
[02:38] <WebLOCH> anyone here successfully run luminocity ?
[02:38] <ninou> Kamping_Kaiser: when booting, hotplug do no set my network interface
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ZzeCoOl: it can save, i just don't know how :)
[02:38] <ZzeCoOl> grrrrr
[02:39] <ninou> Kamping_Kaiser: i try to undestand the mapping tag in network/interfaces
[02:39] <ZzeCoOl> find me the way or prepera to die
[02:39] <bob_4_a_day> ZzeCoOl man alsactrl     errr what ever it is... it can save settings.
[02:39] <ZzeCoOl> prepare*
[02:39] <ZzeCoOl> :P
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> ninou: use the Gnome network tool
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> ninou: is it a ethernet connection you want to work?
[02:40] <oNe^somewhere> hello ... i need some help installing kvirc
[02:40] <oNe^somewhere> can some1 help me plz
[02:40] <bob_4_a_day> ZzeCoOl but i can't say if it will save the extended settings you are talking about or not...  you'll just have to check.
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> then basicly
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> auto eth?
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> iface eth? inet DHCP
[02:40] <ninou> i fix the problem with a 'auto eth0'
[02:40] <oNe^somewhere> not the version in the package manager either
[02:41] <bob_4_a_day> alsactl maybe
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> oNe^somewhere: try asking in #KDE, i doubt many people here will be able to help
[02:41] <ZzeCoOl> bob_4_a_day:  checked ... no solution
[02:41] <ninou> i have another problem with gnome under nfs home dir -> unable to log out
[02:41] <ZzeCoOl> basicly the aplication is  : gnome-volume-control
[02:42] <oNe^somewhere> ok ty Kamping_Kaiser
[02:42] <arnducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide (and do, to an ever intcreasing degree) NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (which depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; ntfs and ntfsresize (etc.) which may safely resize ntfs partitions.  The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted.  More information is available from the ntfstools' devel
[02:42] <arnducky> opers, Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (also hosted at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.
[02:42] <ubotu> arnducky: okay
[02:42] <bob_4_a_day> oNe^somewhere 'sudo apt-get install kvirc '
[02:42] <bob_4_a_day> !info kvirc
[02:42] <ubotu> kvirc: (Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:2.1.3.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1365 kB, Installed size: 4064 kB
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: bit long ;)
[02:43] <arnducky> It's not echoing the entry in pvt msg
[02:43] <oNe^somewhere> what if i dont use the KDE ?
[02:43] <bob_4_a_day> oNe^somewhere 'sudo apt-get install kvirc '
[02:43] <bob_4_a_day> it's in universe
[02:43] <bob_4_a_day> ahh assumes breezy .....
[02:43] <oNe^somewhere> i tried that bob_4_a_day  ...but i have the 3.2.0tar.gz file
[02:44] <Plus-V-ducky> !ntfstools
[02:44] <bob_4_a_day> and why are you not satisfied with the precompiled package oNe^somewhere ?
[02:45] <oNe^somewhere> because i have my own server on another network and want more (as in for OPER purposes)
[02:45] <bob_4_a_day> k
[02:45] <Hoxzer> is there any way to go to the home dir whit same command no matter what user name you use?
[02:46] <bob_4_a_day> cd
[02:46] <oNe^somewhere> i'm using x-chat atm but i am new to linux ... i usually use invision on XP pro
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: typing "cd" will always take you to the logged in users home
[02:47] <aftertaf> oNe^somewhere:  if you are new to linux, you shouldnt be messing with source files right now....
[02:47] <Hoxzer> kamping_kaiser: ok, can I use it with mv command somehow?
[02:47] <bob_4_a_day> cd  =  cd $HOME  = cd ~
[02:47] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aims to provide NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (can safely resize ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. ntfstools are developed by the Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (also hosted at http://linux
[02:47] <Plus-V-ducky> -ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community
[02:47] <ubotu> ...but ntfstools is already something else...
[02:47] <aftertaf> just a bit of headache saving advice
[02:47] <Plus-V-ducky> !forget ntfstools
[02:47] <ubotu> Plus-V-ducky: i forgot ntfstools
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: what do you want to do?
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aims to provide NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (can safely resize ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. ntfstools are developed by the Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ [Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Co
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> mmunity] .
[02:48] <ubotu> Plus-V-ducky: okay
[02:48] <aftertaf> Plus-V-ducky:  you can update the bot in a private msg channel with it
[02:48] <Hoxzer> Kamping_kaiser: move file to home dir
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer:  mv filename ~
[02:48] <Hoxzer> ok
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> ~ is /home/$username/
[02:48] <aftertaf> ~/
[02:48] <Hoxzer> yeah, I know
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> aftertaf, I was trying but it seems to be +d in PRIV_MSG QUEERY
[02:48] <ZzeCoOl> Hello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)      <------------SOLVED if anyone wanna know ask me :)
[02:48] <bob_4_a_day> $HOME
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> (+d/deaf)
[02:48] <aftertaf> Plus-V-ducky:  are your registered with nickserv?
[02:49] <Plus-V-ducky> blootbot?
[02:49] <bob_4_a_day> mv file $HOME
[02:49] <Plus-V-ducky> Oh, no.  I never bother with that unless it's forced.
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: you don't have to pm
[02:49] <aftertaf> yeah but it causes clutter in the chan...
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> but if it's got an entry you need to say 'ubotu forget something' first
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: sure
[02:50] <blizzkid> Does anyone have an idea how to "listen" for an icoming call on a bluetooth phone?
[02:50] <blizzkid> I'd like an alert on my mobile
[02:50] <blizzkid> s/mobile/desktop
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> eek
[02:50] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:51] <Plus-V-ducky> On an ipaq -- that's psyck!
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:52] <Plus-V-ducky> errr, 'Symbian' BTW
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> on it's own hdd
[02:52] <blizzkid> Plus-V-ducky, why not take Amiga's Workbench? :p
[02:52] <bob_4_a_day> probably has micro-reboot on there too
[02:53] <Plus-V-ducky> yeah, so Linux does try mkswap on /dev/[solar_system_partn] /
[02:53] <Plus-V-ducky> 'doesn't' LOL
[02:53] <Plus-V-ducky> blizzkid, Watchoo talkin bout', Willis?
[02:54] <Plus-V-ducky> !ntfstools
[02:54] <blizzkid> Plus-V-ducky, installing amiga's workbench on the ipaq ;-)
[02:55] <Plus-V-ducky> Don't know it -- never played with Amigas ( I sorta skipped a big gap between Apple2+/C64 and i286)
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> bhahahaha
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Need one?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:56] <blizzkid> I had the 500 and the 1200
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i sorta skipped the gap between - and 2001 ;P (ish)
[02:56] <blizzkid> started with a VIC20 :)
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> blizzkid,  got one of those also.
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dr_Willis: yheh, i do :|
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> NOW you are all making me feel old!
[02:56] <blizzkid> lol
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[02:56] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, how expensive are they to ship and could I use it for a terminal server or anything even slightly usefull?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Tracked down the C64 GEOS disk images the other day to try in the VICE emulator...
[02:56] <bob_4_a_day> oh vic10's
[02:57] <Astxist> Dr_Willis, !
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  not really usefull for much of anything these days
[02:57] <blizzkid> Dr_Willis, where are the days we were irc'ing with an 9600-modem?
[02:57] <Plus-V-ducky> Got a modem or a NIC in it?
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are history
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> you gotta keep them
[02:57] <Astxist> Dr_Willis, I have the manual to c64 geos but not the damn discs
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  - ya need special Monitors for them, not normal pc monitor.. Serial port.. NEVER even seen a NIC in an amiga
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Astinus,  :P
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> oops..
[02:57] <Astxist> heh
[02:57] <warreng> if i "apt-get install -y" it won't ask me y/n questions, but is there a way to skip those blue screens that popup for instance when installing mysql that require you to hit OK?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Astxist,  i have severla of the still shrinkwraped geos box's also.
[02:57] <Gkane> !grub
[02:58] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:58] <Astxist> but I have a load of other software for my C64
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Astxist,  the UAE emulator does a DANG good job..
[02:58] <Astxist> Dr_Willis, heh yeah but I couldn't be bothered setting it up
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Astxist,  "Amiga In a Box" check it out. :P all ya need is the wb 3.1 floppy disks images and a rom image or 2. :P
[02:59] <Gkane> when i try to install grub, i will get this error: /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> they took the amiga OS and updated all the stuff. its actually useable.. (barely)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> LOl
[02:59] <Gkane> oh sorry, i mean this:
[02:59] <Gkane> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:59] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, canthey talk v.35 or even v.31bis over their '/dev/ttys0'es?
[02:59] <Astxist> Gkane, had me scratching my head there for a minute
[02:59] <Plus-V-ducky> What UART?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  no clue.. its been ages.. ive never used Linux on one. ;P i did play with MINIX on one ages ago.
[03:00] <blizzkid> I'm getting sick of not finding the solution to my bt-problem :-s
[03:00] <devilz_> E: Couldn't find package acroread
[03:00] <devilz_> why it cant find this package
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  in this day of $300 pc's - an amiga as a serial terminal - is barely worth messing with.
[03:00] <ompaul> http://www.tuxme.com/ funny results
[03:00] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, that's what Linus started with...
[03:01] <Astxist> devilz_, you probably need to add repositories to your sources.list
[03:01] <Gkane> Astxist, waht u mean?
[03:01] <devilz_> Astxist, where can i find
[03:01] <Astxist> devilz_, what package are you looking for exactly?
[03:01] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_ it's in multiverse
[03:02] <warreng> what's the difference between GMT and UTC ?
[03:02] <devilz_> Astxist, well i want to have latest versions
[03:03] <devilz_> of packages
[03:03] <Astxist> devilz_, if you do a search for repositiories on the wiki it'll tell you how to add them
[03:03] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm gtm is utc+0 isn't it.
[03:03] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, what's that humourous stick site -- bufferspace is expanding as a hyperbolic function here
[03:03] <spiderbatdad> help!
[03:03] <devilz_> is it good if i add those whoa re on started guide ubuntu
[03:03] <devilz_> http://ubuntuguide.org/#synaptic
[03:04] <Plus-V-ducky> If you're available to answer soon, it would be good since I have to be at my lawyer's office in ~27 minutes, Kamping_Kaise1
[03:04] <Plus-V-ducky> =(
[03:04] <spiderbatdad> can't boot iso cd made from online download
[03:04] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_ you on breezy ?
[03:04] <devilz_> what is breezy?
[03:04] <devilz_> :(
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaise1> Plus-V-ducky: what did you say?
[03:05] <Plus-V-ducky> spiderbatdad, you can use isofs to mount them and Ubuntu can actual install from .iso on a locall HDD --no kidding
[03:05] <spiderbatdad> ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger
[03:05] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_  breezy badger = ubuntu 5.10
[03:05] <Astxist> devilz_, breezy badger is 5.10
[03:05] <devilz_> well i have 5.10
[03:05] <devilz_> ubuntu
[03:05] <devilz_> thats latest version
[03:05] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_  use  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 this
[03:05] <[Jonne] > that's breezy badger
[03:05] <Plus-V-ducky> (so saith the omnicient docs, though I haven't tried it myself)
[03:05] <spiderbatdad> window xp os
[03:06] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, what's that humourous stick site -- bufferspace is expanding as a hyperbolic function here
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaise1> http://www.stickpage.com/counterstickseries.shtml
[03:06] <spiderbatdad> should just boot from cd-rom...maybe bad copy?
[03:06] <devilz_> bob_4_a_day, ty
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  How did you butn the iso image file?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  How did you burn the iso image file?
[03:07] <spiderbatdad> ms windows cd burner
[03:07] <komenx> why in ubuntu cd.. command not found ????
[03:07] <imc1> Any way to get software 256-bit key AES encryption on Ubuntu ?
[03:07] <bob_4_a_day> np
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  check the cd.. if you have a huge '.iso' file - on it.. You dident burn it right
[03:07] <spiderbatdad> do I need to download a new copy with bittorrent?
[03:07] <[Jonne] > spiderbatdad, get real cd burning software
[03:07] <[Jonne] > no
[03:07] <[Jonne] > just burn a new cd
[03:07] <michuk> HEY, one more question, during Ubuntu install process, can I resize NTFS partition?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  i suggest you use "Burn at once" to burn isos under windoes xp.
[03:07] <spiderbatdad> thank you.
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads
[03:08] <[Jonne] > i'd recommend this free cd burner: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
[03:08] <bob_4_a_day> ok someone else can be bob for a day now..... i'm like gondi dude
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> getting where these several good iso butners now for xp. Lol.
[03:08] <imc1> Any one on my encryption question? I want AES to encrypt directories and partitions
[03:09] <Jestre> imc1: You can use dm-crypt
[03:09] <[Jonne] > make sure you forget your password afterwards
[03:09] <[Jonne] > ;)
[03:09] <imc1> Jestre, thanks, Jonne, yeah
[03:09] <michuk> can I resize NTFS partition  during Ubuntu install process?
[03:10] <[Jonne] > i've used gparted from the livecd myself
[03:10] <devilz_> btw is it possible in gaim internet messanger to have voice chat
[03:10] <[Jonne] > you have to make sure the ntfs partition is not full, and defragged properly
[03:10] <devilz_> with microphone
[03:10] <devilz_> ?
[03:10] <[Jonne] > devilz_, i think that's for the next version
[03:10] <[Jonne] > 2.0
[03:10] <devilz_> yes
[03:10] <devilz_> i saw that
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaise1> devilz_: not currently
[03:10] <sanketmedhi> Hello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear.
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaise1> try GAIM--vv
[03:11] <Plus-V-ducky> heh - rescheduled with my learned friend -- now I wait until AFTER rush hour to drive downtown
[03:11] <Latone> hey all .. I am working on my first linux system and can't create folders or files ... I don't know what I did wrong ..
[03:11] <Plus-V-ducky> =)
[03:11] <[Jonne] > latone, how are you trying to do it, and where?
[03:11] <[Jonne] > is it under /home/username/ ?
[03:11] <devilz_> [Jonne] , do you know that is 2.0 coming out
[03:11] <[Jonne] > when it's done
[03:12] <Latone> no .. var/www/   for web folders
[03:12] <Plus-V-ducky> Latone you need to look at a shell tutorial (one that will cover login, mkdir, cd, ls, rm et. al.)
[03:12] <sanketmedhi> Hello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear.
[03:12] <Latone> tried with mkdir and with right click
[03:12] <[Jonne] > you're not allowed to write there by default
[03:12] <Plus-V-ducky> Anyone know of one?
[03:12] <[Jonne] > you'll have to do sudo chown <username>
[03:12] <[Jonne] > i mean
[03:12] <[Jonne] > sudo chown <username> var/www
[03:12] <sanketmedhi> Hello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear. Any ideas anyone?
[03:13] <[Jonne] > then you'll be able to do whatever you want
[03:13] <w-mute> Hi. How can I disable update-notifier on a host programmatically (like editing a file or running a shell command)?
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaise1> sanketmedhi: don't spam the channel
[03:13] <Latone> cool cool thanks for the tip
[03:13] <[Jonne] > you can also opt for sudo chmod 666 var/www
[03:13] <sanketmedhi> Kamping_Kaise1, i am trying to get attention! :(
[03:13] <[Jonne] > which would be even better
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaise1> sanketmedhi: ask your question. if no one answers after a while, ask again. spamming wont help
[03:14] <sanketmedhi> ok sorry
[03:14] <Latone> really .. let me try really quick
[03:14] <Ueuecoyotl> To the person who needed a quick shell tutorial -> http://unlser1.unl.csi.cuny.edu/tutorials/QuickUnixTutorial.html
[03:14] <[Jonne] > read up on linux' permissions stuff, if you understand that, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble
[03:14] <Plus-V-ducky> michuk, not really
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> you want to give read/write access to your web dir to everyone ? ...
[03:14] <[Jonne] > wickedpuppy, why the hell not? it's his system
[03:14] <Plus-V-ducky> You *can* copy partitions if you have equeivalent amount of freespace
[03:15] <devilz_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[03:15] <devilz_>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[03:15] <devilz_>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[03:15] <Latone> I am the only user LOL
[03:15] <strokey> Do i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot.
[03:15] <devilz_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:15] <devilz_> is only available from another source
[03:15] <devilz_> However the following packages replace it:
[03:15] <devilz_>   libqt3-mt
[03:15] <devilz_> E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate
[03:15] <devilz_> ?!
[03:15] <mjk64> Hi all!  The Ubuntu homepage says: "The licences for software applications in /main/ must be free, but main may also may contain binary firmware and selected fonts that cannot be modified without permission from their authors." - can I mask out these not-really-free software automatically when using aptitude (both cmd-line and curses) or apt-get?
[03:15] <w-mute> strokey: the installer can partition the disk.
[03:16] <devilz_> i'm trying sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[03:16] <devilz_> and i get this msg
[03:16] <yosch> hi guys, how do I remove the noexec flag which get automatically added to an external usb drive?
[03:16] <Plus-V-ducky> [Jonne] , the man pages ntfstools say one doesn't need to defrag -- I don't know if this is true since I've had a hard time with last step (sfdisk) of resizing ntfs parts
[03:16] <[Jonne] > maybe try nonfree or something
[03:16] <strokey> w-mute: so i load up the installer, and it will auto make a dual boot?
[03:16] <Hoxzer> somebody knows what option I need to use in imagemagic to create images smaller than 1024 kbytes
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> [Jonne] , did you explained to him what does chmod 666 do ?
[03:17] <Plus-V-ducky> Butis *seemed* to work just fine at the CLI ntfresize or GUI gparted stagee
[03:17] <[Jonne] > i think i read somewhere a defrag was necessary. It can't hurt in any case
[03:17] <[Jonne] > wickedpuppy, i told him to read up on linux' permissions
[03:17] <[Jonne] > i hope he does that
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> [Jonne] , wouldn't it be safer to mkdir /var/www/dir_name and chown it ? instead of chmod the whole dir ?
[03:19] <Plus-V-ducky> [Jonne] , it *used* to be necessary. And of course you're right -- it can't hurt anything (except your time budget) and is a pain if you have to reboot to a M$ enviro to defrag (do you know of an ntfs defraggger for Linux?)
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaise1> wickedpuppy: it would be eaiser to make a symlink from /var/www/username to /home/username/public_html
[03:19] <pistolero> what is the command to put the console in background?
[03:19] <Plus-V-ducky> hehehe
[03:19] <Plus-V-ducky> (also Ghost)
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> either way ... but chmodding the web dir would be the last option i would go for ...
[03:20] <[Jonne] > wickedpuppy,  i'm only a n00b in linux things, so i'm not sure what the best practice is
[03:20] <Plus-V-ducky> clone it, then clone it back -- way faster and works even if the pt'n is too full to defrag under `doze
[03:20] <juliux> hi has some one tried out gnome bluetooth control remote ?
[03:20] <[Jonne] > i'm assuming he's setting up a simple testing box for himself, so he's not risking much
[03:21] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, which console?  (you can't really 'background' your ttys just switch between them)
[03:21] <idiot> !limewire
[03:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[03:21] <idiot> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:21] <pistolero> Plus-V-ducky, terminal
[03:21] <Plus-V-ducky> Unless you mean something fancy with screen or even mgetty
[03:21] <idiot> !javadebs
[03:21] <ubotu> [javadebs]  Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:22] <pistolero> the window console in the X mode
[03:22] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, an x-windows terminal?
[03:22] <oNe^somewhere> i installed java last week but have errors on the java script console
[03:22] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, there should be an x-windows widget (minimize; restore; maximize buttons)
[03:23] <pistolero> its a comand ctrl + something
[03:23] <Plus-V-ducky> Ctrl-Z to suspend a *process* if that's what you mean.
[03:24] <Plus-V-ducky> I don't know a shortcut -- I'd like to know myself -- until I get an eraserhead point right on my keyboard it would come in handy
[03:24] <pistolero> Plus-V-ducky,  let me explain.. ive downloaded amsn.. and im executing it with ./amsn ( console ), so if i close the console the amsn close too.. a friend of mine said that if i put the console in bg and type bg afetr.. it wont happen
[03:24] <pistolero> do u have any solution ?
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, uhhh... don't close the console until you're done?  (minimizing it is fine)
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> use the 'exit' command to close the shell window.. DONT just click on the close button.
[03:25] <pistolero> =/
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> ./msn &
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> exit
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, I don't think he can do Ctrl-D
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> ohhh -- duh
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> hehehe
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:25] <pistolero> how can i exec amsn without use the console!
[03:25] <pistolero> ?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> pistolero,  add a laucher for it.
[03:26] <Pegasos989> I know this isn't exactly about operating system, but anyways... If I would like to set my computer as a proxy for my IRCing, where should I start? I mean that I would like to connect to IRC thro a browser or something so that the client would be on my computer (IPs to irc and everything would be as my comp). If you think that this is too much offtopic, could someone recommend me another channel?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> byeee...
[03:26] <titanium_> is 30C an ok temperature for a sata hdd, or do i need to invest in another case fan?
[03:26] <pistolero> how ? im newbaby!
[03:26] <strokey> Do i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot. Like, would it do it auto?
[03:26] <Plus-V-ducky> add it to your path and chmod it +x
[03:26] <Plus-V-ducky> then make a shorcut
[03:26] <pistolero> hmm ?
[03:26] <pistolero> im brazilian.. my english is not so good
[03:26] <pistolero> can u explain in more word plz!
[03:26] <strokey> d
[03:26] <Plus-V-ducky> ....
[03:27] <pistolero> srry
[03:27] <pistolero> can u ?
[03:27] <idiot> Is there anyway to get write access to an NTFS Partition, I heard other distros can do it if its built into the kernel.
[03:27] <idiot> i just want to write a few mp3's to it.
[03:28] <Plus-V-ducky> I'm *thinking* gimme a minute! (can't you tell by the smoke coming out my ears?!)
[03:28] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot type !ntfstools
[03:28] <Plus-V-ducky> =oD
[03:28] <pistolero> hehe
[03:28] <idiot> !ntfstools
[03:29] <Pegasos989> !temperature
[03:29] <ubotu> Pegasos989: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:29] <Plus-V-ducky> I just made an entry and I'm so *#$% proud of myself I could [censored] ...
[03:29] <idiot> plus-v-ducky i don't want to resize...
[03:29] <idiot> i want to write a file to my ntfs.
[03:29] <Pegasos989> And another question, this time maybe a bit more related to os... Does ubuntu have a feature to show me my computer temperatures or do I need to get 3rd party oftware?
[03:29] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot mk.ntfs and ntfsmount are part of ntfstools too -- follow the link we supplied and read the docs
[03:30] <Ron_o> idiot, my understanding is you can read NTFS but can't write to it.
[03:30] <Latone> okay .. I used the command sudo chown <username> /var/www and now my folders look like files with footprint icons
[03:30] <pistolero> Plus-V-ducky,  write the commands and where i must put them.. and i ll
[03:30] <idiot> Ron_o, are you sure? =O
[03:30] <idiot> because in the gentoo kernel there is a option "NTFS Write Support"
[03:30] <idiot> Plus-V-Ducky, I don't want to make a new ntfs partition, I want to use my current one and put some files on it
[03:30] <idiot> -_-
[03:31] <Ueuecoyotl> Pegasos989, search for "temperature" in synaptic package manager and you'll find a couple of packages
[03:31] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, that's not *completely* true any anymore (but writing is not stable yet)
[03:31] <Ron_o> idiot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:31] <Pegasos989> Ueuecoyotl, thanks
[03:31] <idiot> k
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> writing to ntfs from linux is useless, you can only write to an existing file and you can't change the size of the file, you can also not create files.
[03:33] <[Jonne] > i just have a fat partition that i mounted in my home directory
[03:34] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu forget ntfstools
[03:34] <ubotu> i forgot ntfstools, Plus-V-ducky
[03:34] <Plus-V-ducky> ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (safely resizes ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highli
[03:34] <Plus-V-ducky> ght=%28ntfs%29
[03:35] <mikul> where can i find som good lists to pu int my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:35] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:35] <ubotu> Plus-V-ducky: okay
[03:35] <simonvallore> Hello
[03:35] <strokey> Do i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot. Like, would it do it auto?
[03:36] <simonvallore> i have the win32 codecs but when i play a movie i have no sound
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaise1> Stormx2: they installer can make the partitions
[03:37] <strokey> Kamping_Kaise1. would it do it auto? im scared of them :|
[03:37] <Stormx2> Kamping_Kaise1: Yeah I know
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stormx2: don't know. never tried it
[03:37] <kjcole> simonvallore, the only thing that worked for me (after going through the RestrictedFormats wiki page) was gxine.  Others would sometimes play sound but no video or video but no sound. gxine got both once I'd installed all the codecs, etc.
[03:37] <Stormx2> strokey: Not quite
[03:37] <mikul> where can i find som good package lists to put into my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:37] <simonvallore> kj can i pm you
[03:38] <Stormx2> strokey: What happens, is you need to resize the current partition down, then select "Automaticly partition the free space"
[03:38] <simonvallore> kjcole,  can i pm you
[03:38] <Stormx2> strokey: This can all be done from the installer
[03:38] <strokey> so
[03:38] <strokey> if i make this big partioton
[03:38] <Stormx2> !tell mikul about easysource
[03:38] <strokey> 70 gb of 114
[03:38] <strokey> it would use the rest|?
[03:38] <Stormx2> Yes.
[03:39] <strokey> is it simple in the installer? ><
[03:39] <Stormx2> strokey: Yes
[03:39] <Ueuecoyotl> Very simple
[03:39] <kjcole> simonvallore, I'm in a meeting on #ubuntu-meeting at the moment...
[03:39] <strokey> mkay
[03:39] <strokey> and woul dit auto dual boot?
[03:39] <rohan> hi all
[03:39] <rohan> is there a program that will allow me to pick colors from the complete screen ?
[03:39] <mikul> Storm2: url?
[03:39] <Ueuecoyotl> StrikeForce, Yup
[03:39] <Stormx2> !easysource
[03:39] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:39] <Plus-V-ducky> mikul, don't use Debian packages indiscrimately with Ubuntu or you'll break your system
[03:39] <mikul> ahaa
[03:39] <Stormx2> ^^ there
[03:39] <fruud> How do i update my ubuntu to knubuntu ? (that able?)
[03:40] <Plus-V-ducky> !repos
[03:40] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:40] <Stormx2> !kubuntu
[03:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:40] <[Jonne] > rohan: colorzilla, for stuff in your firefox window
[03:40] <blizzkid> fruud: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <unfito> hello
[03:40] <unfito> does anyone use kiax on breezy?
[03:40] <fruud> blizzkid, thanks!
[03:40] <rohan> [Jonne] : no, the complete screen
[03:40] <[Jonne] > rohan, or use the gimp
[03:40] <unfito> i cant compile it
[03:40] <Plus-V-ducky> mikul, look at that 'repos' URL
[03:40] <rohan> [Jonne] : gimp doesnt allow complete scree
[03:40] <blizzkid> yw fruud
[03:40] <[Jonne] > sure it does
[03:40] <fruud> :] ~
[03:41] <rohan> or better still, a kde .kscrc color theme that has brown .. anyone has that ?
[03:41] <Stormx2> rohan: Go into the gimp, that can do it.
[03:41] <unfito> or any other iax client?
[03:41] <[Jonne] > file>acquire>screenshot>the whole screen
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn i hate having a local mirror. it updates *way* to fast
[03:41] <Plus-V-ducky> You're looking pretty hoopy this morning, fruud ;-)
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> a Hoary -> Breezy dist-upgrade in 1m 4 seconds :( bugger
[03:41] <fruud> Plus-V-ducky, woot
[03:41] <Plus-V-ducky> [cd H2G2] 
[03:41] <Stormx2> Kamping_Kaiser: lol
[03:42] <fruud> is it really free to order ubuntu cds ?
[03:42] <fruud> absolutely free ?
[03:42] <_jason> fruud, yes
[03:42] <rohan> Stormx2: i cant find an option there
[03:42] <Stormx2> fruud: Absolutely
[03:42] <unfito> absolutely
[03:42] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, are you sure that wasn't gentoo -- heh?
[03:42] <chrisx1> hey i ordered 5 Breezy CD's and it was like 4 weeks agi
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: very ;)
[03:42] <Stormx2> rohan: Go to colour dropper
[03:42] <Ueuecoyotl> fruud, Yeah but it takes some time before you get the cd's
[03:42] <chrisx1> And They Aint come yet
[03:42] <fruud> shall i choose gdm or kdm in that install blizzkid ??
[03:42] <[Jonne] > chrisx1, it takes ages to get them
[03:42] <Stormx2> rohan: Then go to part of the screen, and click
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> chrisx1: i ordered 300, :)
[03:42] <drarcheh> hi, i'm installing breezy, but one package install failed (after the reboot). What is the best way to resume the installation?
[03:42] <fruud> oh okey
[03:42] <d3javu> fruud, ubuntu sent me 10 cds. within 1 and half months.
[03:42] <blizzkid> chrisx1, I had to wait for 6 weeks
[03:42] <chrisx1> LOL
[03:42] <chrisx1> kk
[03:42] <[Jonne] > you're better off downloading the torrent with 56K
[03:42] <_jason> chrisx1, mine took almost two months and for some people it takes longer
[03:42] <fruud> lolx
[03:42] <blizzkid> fruud: gdm
[03:43] <fruud> thanks blizzkid
[03:43] <rohan> fruud: the cds are free, but will take time. better to just download yourself :)
[03:43] <fruud> i want original cds :)
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you want quick cds, shipit is not what your after
[03:43] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, will you support my 'Freaky Frog' name campaign for the 2nd 2006 release?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your after nice cds, shipiit is the best :)
[03:43] <rohan> yes
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: sure
[03:43] <rohan> the cds looks KEWL
[03:43] <rohan> :)
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: is there any concept art yet? ;)
[03:44] <nosilver4u> if a usb device automounts, where is it actually mounted?
[03:44] <blizzkid> I ordered 15: 10 for x86, 3 64-bit and 2 mac
[03:44] <_jason> Plus-V-ducky, i thoguth they were going alphabetical now?
[03:44] <nosilver4u> nm, found it
[03:44] <fruud> blizzkid, after iv installed knubuntu. sould i remove ubuntu ?
[03:44] <unfito> does anyone use kiax on breezy? i cant compile it
[03:44] <rohan> Stormx2: i still cant get it to work :(
[03:44] <blizzkid> fruud: no
[03:44] <fruud> okay
[03:44] <rohan> Stormx2: i want #XXXXXX code of the color
[03:44] <blizzkid> it's "part" of ubuntu
[03:44] <fruud> okay
[03:45] <rohan> fruud: new to linux ? or wanna try ubuntu ?
[03:45] <blizzkid> at least I guess, if you still want to be able to use gnome
[03:45] <fruud> oh btw, on my brothers pc i find quake2 through apt-get why not on mine ?
[03:45] <Plus-V-ducky> great, Kamping_Kaiser !  Will you hack up the petition form site for http://ubuntu.arnducky.net/name-that-beast.php?/  Yeah stolen from the Crazy Frog ~.avi
[03:45] <fruud> kinda yes :P
[03:45] <mikul> ^
[03:45] <mikul> thx, for now :)
[03:45] <griffin_> anyone have experience getting lexmark printers to work in Ubuntu?
[03:45] <chrisx1> is breezy version 5.10
[03:45] <chrisx1> ?
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[03:45] <chrisx1> kk ty
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> griffin_: a bit
[03:46] <_jason> chrisx1, yes, the way it works is year 2005 and month 10
[03:46] <rohan> anyone know how to select colors from the complete screen ?!
[03:46] <unu> hello
[03:46] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, I want he DE developers to change all the  system dot-wavs to crazy meep-meeps
[03:46] <unu> i'm trying to get vim to work in kdevelop
[03:46] <_jason> rohan, take a screenshot and open it in gimp
[03:46] <unu> in breezy
[03:46] <ComputerAlex> yes, i have Lekmark z11 on my Ubuntu
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: bwhaahaa cool
[03:46] <griffin_> I have a Lex Z603, set it up in the printers menu, but Ubuntu doesnt have the right driver.
[03:46] <rohan> _jason: oh, ok.. nice idea :)
[03:46] <unu> but after configuring it in kcontrol, it still doen't show up in kdevelop config
[03:46] <blizzkid> anyone knows if a Canon i560 will work on ubuntu?
[03:46] <griffin_> I downloaded drivers from lex, but hey are not ppd
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> griffin_: tried lexmark to see if they provide a driver?
[03:47] <fruud> lol btw, iv been reading lots on the net for using ps 7.0 on linux, they said u need original cd to start it, i got it to work without kinda easy...
[03:47] <griffin_> they came in a shell file
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> blizzkid: i don't know for sure, but IIRC those do. check linuxprinting.org
[03:47] <unu> join #vim
[03:47] <griffin_> I wondered if running the sh in the right directory might get things working
[03:47] <blizzkid> Plus-V-ducky, I can't connect to that site you gave??
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl. trying to find someone in the runescape world (wish me luck)
[03:48] <griffin_> But I am not sure where to run the sh or if it even matters
[03:48] <fruud> centericq is the shit : D
[03:48] <rohan> finally !
[03:48] <rohan> thanks, _jason
[03:48] <rohan> :)
[03:49] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, if you don't know js, php or coldfusion, you can use my devarchive (http://arnducky.net/v|r/  <-- '|' = 0x7c) to do it with HTML4 and CSS2 .  So when can expect a draft in my incoming imap folders?
[03:49] <_jason> rohan, np
[03:49] <Plus-V-ducky> =oD
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[03:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell blizzkid about printing
[03:49] <jeanjacques> hello
[03:50] <Plus-V-ducky> blizzkid, it was joke -- but if *enough* people thought it was funny I could add ubuntu.arnducky.net to my dns and point it at an httpd host -- heh.
[03:50] <jeanjacques> i'm trying to repair my hard drive using an ubuntu livecd, wich tool could i use to repair my hard drive ?
[03:50] <blizzkid> oh, k, sorry Plus-V-ducky
[03:50] <Plus-V-ducky> no need to apologize, FGS
[03:50] <Plus-V-ducky> =)
[03:50] <blizzkid> :)
[03:51] <hawking> I guess a new kernel was released yesterday 2.6.10 right?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hawking: 2.6.10 is what's in Hoary
[03:51] <asdx> i have a shared printer on Windows XP (hp laserjet 1000 usb) and i want to use it on ubuntu, what shall i use?? SMB or CUPS?
[03:51] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, are you trolling?  2.6.13-2 has been out for months
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> asdx: both.
[03:51] <idiot> Is there a console command to see how fast my CPU is?
[03:51] <asdx> I already used SMB and ubuntu said it's ready but dosn't work
[03:51] <blizzkid> You know what would be really cool in ubuntu? an implementation of mac's adress book. Pair up a bluetooth phone and see an alert for an incoming call
[03:51] <asdx> LeeJunFan: dosn't work :S
[03:51] <hawking> noone knows_
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:52] <unu> anyone around here embedding vim in kdevelop?
[03:52] <idiot> I have a problem
[03:52] <idiot> My AMD 64 3500+ reads as 999mhz.....
[03:52] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot do you mean a benchmarking tool rating systems in bogomips?
[03:52] <idiot> and its like 1.8ghz.
[03:52] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky : hmm I didn't know that... how can i upgrade to it?
[03:52] <asdx> i can't configure a damn printer
[03:52] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, that's probably a BIOS FSB x clock multiplier problem
[03:52] <asdx> :S
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: do you have powersaving turned on?
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> asdx: cups will provide the driver interface and samba-client will connect to your windows server. make sure you have samba-client and freetype and hplip (if it's an HP printer) installed.
[03:53] <idiot> Not that I am aware of.
[03:53] <idiot> When I boot into windows its 1.8ghz
[03:53] <Latone> why would a folder not be able to be displayed?
[03:53] <asdx> LeeJunFan: i don't have a samba client here
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Latone: lots of reasons
[03:53] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, i'm only a few days with Ubuntu .  I just know the apt-get (or aptitude | synaptic way)
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> asdx: you need to install samba-client on your linux box to get it to talk to the samba server that is your windows machine.
[03:54] <Latone> permissions are open ...
[03:54] <idiot> I will be right back I know my AMD 64 isn't 999mhz.. lmfao
[03:54] <asdx> LeeJunFan: apt-get install samba?
[03:54] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, I believe you  just install the kernael-image that matches your architecture
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> asdx: apt-get install samba-client
[03:55] <Plus-V-ducky> if it doesn't have a version number after it, then it will automatically install the newest one available from your Ubuntu repository
[03:55] <asdx> damn
[03:55] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky: how can i learn which kernel I have
[03:55] <DeadZed> my screen resolution is 640x320 .. no matter what I do or change my  xorg.conf file. .. Installed nvidia drivers and it automatically detects my sony cpd screen
[03:55] <Plus-V-ducky> GRUB finds new kernels automatically now too
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> asdx: w/o that cups can't talk to your windows machine, cups will take your print job, convert it to the correct format for your printer, then use samba to send it to windows.
[03:55] <Plus-V-ducky> uname -k
[03:56] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky : oh I have 2.6.12.9
[03:56] <Plus-V-ducky> uname -r
[03:56] <Plus-V-ducky> sorry
[03:56] <DeadZed> uname -k invalid option
[03:56] <DeadZed> uname -a ??
[03:57] <Plus-V-ducky> uname -a (for 'all')
[03:57] <blizzkid> here it's 2.6.12-10
[03:57] <hawking> what is the latest kernel?
[03:57] <asdx> that should be by default on ubuntu
[03:57] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, check kernel.org
[03:57] <aftertaf> the package is called linux-386|686|k7   and it always depends on the latest available kernel.
[03:57] <DeadZed> and again ...
[03:57] <DeadZed> my screen resolution is 640x320 .. no matter what I do or change my  xorg.conf file. .. Installed nvidia drivers and it automatically detects my sony cpd screen
[03:58] <idiot> Hello I am back
[03:58] <idiot> when I boot into Windows it says 2.20GHz on my amd 64 3500+
[03:58] <DeadZed> hello idiot
[03:58] <idiot> and in linux it says 999mhz...
[03:58] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky: latest stable is 2.6.14.2!
[03:58] <oNe^somewhere> does any1 know where i can get mp3 codecs ?
[03:58] <Plus-V-ducky> If you mean how to check on with ubuntu, I'm not sure without installing it if they haven't included the latest in apt-cache
[03:58] <DeadZed> idiot  are you a bot ?
[03:58] <idiot> no
[03:58] <idiot> i need help
[03:58] <DeadZed> sound like one
[03:59] <j813> hi guys
[03:59] <idiot> Kamping_Kaiser, you still here?
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: yeh
[03:59] <idiot> Remember my problem a few mins ago
[03:59] <idiot> Linux sees my CPU speed @ 999mhz
[03:59] <idiot> and Windows is 2.20GHz
[04:00] <idiot> what should I do?
[04:00] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, did you look at the new ntfs entry?
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: do you have powernow daemon running?
[04:00] <idiot> I don't know.
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: not yet
[04:00] <idiot> i never checked.
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about ntfs
[04:00] <idiot> whats the command to start it?
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: it should start by default IIRC
[04:00] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, you could check out powertweak too (it even runs as a daemon)
[04:00] <ox> hi - I'm trying to get a better screen resolution on my dell inspiron 5100 with breezy, I have 1024x768, but I want 1400x1050, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver, but I always end up with 1024X768. What do I need to do?
[04:01] <blizzkid> Kamping_Kaiser, couldn't it be he installed the x86-version?
[04:01] <idiot> HOld on let me go back into linux, brb -__-
[04:01] <Latone> okay ... got the folders working ... thanks for the help
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> could be yes
[04:01] <Latone> now to figure out why ubuntu doesn't see the internet but does see the network
[04:01] <mikul> I am getting an error when i downloading the new list with apt-get update:
[04:01] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, are you running a *#%ing Centrino (P-IV M with Intel speed choke... err stepping) CPU?
[04:02] <blizzkid> I suggest he pastes the output of uname -r here
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: perhaps drop the hpfs reference and put in a asdk about !ntfs tools bit?
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: he's running an atholon 64
[04:02] <mikul> # Automatically generated sources.list
[04:02] <mikul> # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:02] <mikul> # Ubuntu supported packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[04:02] <mikul> # Ubuntu community supported packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:02] <mikul> # Seveas' packages (packages)
[04:02] <Plus-V-ducky> Huh -- I thought that was in there -- too many versions, too few bytes
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[04:02] <mikul> # Ubuntu backports project (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:02] <mikul> # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[04:02] <mikul> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> wahoa
[04:02] <mikul> # OpenOffice.org 2 final packages (packages)
[04:03] <mikul> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./
[04:03] <mikul> # Penguin Liberation Front (packages)
[04:03] <mikul> deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[04:03] <jeanjacques> hey i can't find the root password for the ubuntu live cd help me please
[04:03] <mikul> wrong
[04:03] <mikul> sorry
[04:03] <Plus-V-ducky> woah!
[04:03] <mikul> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> mikul: don't *ever* do that again
[04:03] <mikul> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[04:03] <Plus-V-ducky> !pastebin
[04:03] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:03] <mikul> thats the right one :P
[04:03] <trappist> jeanjacques: there is none.  use sudo.
[04:03] <idiot> What am I looking for? - I use gnome
[04:03] <jeanjacques> ok trappist  thanks
[04:03] <Plus-V-ducky> mikul use the pastebin URL
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> mikul: the point of that was?
[04:03] <idiot> Plus-V-Ducky, what am I looking for that 'daemon thing'
[04:03] <j813> Hi guys, NVidia Video card driver 7676 only supports Kernel 2.6-13?
[04:03] <mikul> okej, will do!
[04:04] <Tedd> Hi.
[04:04] <blizzkid> idiot, start a terminal and type uname -r and tell us what it says
[04:04] <Tedd> Wow, lotsa people need help, huh
[04:04] <Tedd> I'll wait 'till someone can help.
[04:04] <idiot> 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[04:04] <trappist> Tedd: no one will be able to help until you ask a question
[04:04] <navarone> Tedd> just ask and someone will try to help if they can
[04:04] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, it can tweak your system, but I bet it's your BIOS (CPU clock issues usually are)
[04:04] <idiot> I already checked.
[04:04] <Tedd> Well, it seems that for some reason it just won't take the disk.
[04:04] <idiot> I booted into windows, it sees 2.20ghz
[04:04] <idiot> its not the bios
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's probably a kernel/bios interaction thing
[04:05] <idiot> linux sees it at 999mhz, windows sees it as 2.2ghz
[04:05] <Tedd> I've already changed the BIOS option to load IDE first.
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> unless it feels crap, don't worry to much
[04:05] <Stormx2> idiot: haha
[04:05] <idiot> it feels like crap -_-
[04:05] <Stormx2> Anyone noticed how ubuntu is slowly taking over gnome-look.org ?
[04:05] <idiot> i am missing out on more then half my processor.
[04:06] <Dribbel> Hi!
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know where i can find a nice simple chroot howto?
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> idiot: it's probably power saving, it will only turn your processor up when it needs to be, you aren't missing anything.
[04:06] <mikul> ok, i will try again. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4915
[04:06] <idiot> LeeJunFan - I don't think so
[04:06] <idiot> when I needed it, it stayed the same.
[04:06] <idiot> how can I turn off power saving?
[04:06] <mikul> i get that when i run apt-get update
[04:06] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, no idea then --I don't have any fancy new 64-bit hardware to play with here (closest I've come was choot or BSD root jail shell accounts)
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> idiot: is it a laptop?
[04:07] <idiot> no
[04:07] <idiot> Desktop computer.
[04:07] <Plus-V-ducky> LeeJunFan, with amd64 ?
[04:07] <Tedd> Anybody got any ideas? I changed the BIOS settings but it just won't load the disk in.
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> Plus-V-ducky:  mine is :)
[04:07] <idiot> how can i turn off power options
[04:07] <Plus-V-ducky> LeeJunFan, idiot has an amd64 'desktop'.
[04:07] <navarone> what comamnd to see what processor linuc sees?
[04:07] <Ueuecoyotl> Does anyone here use Psi (http://psi-im.org)?
[04:07] <da_shrewd> hello
[04:07] <navarone> linux*
[04:08] <Latone> so with the apache up and running and folders working ... do I just have someone out the network got to <ipaddress><folder> to see website?
[04:08] <da_shrewd> i have problem
[04:08] <da_shrewd> anybody can help me?
[04:08] <Plus-V-ducky> navarone, you'd have to cat something or use an applet
[04:08] <blizzkid> da_shrewd, maybe if you tell us what your problem is
[04:08] <idiot> How can I turn off power saving in Linux
[04:10] <Dribbel> Where are the ubuntu firewall/port settings? I enabled a ssh server (and it is running, and working for useder@localhoast) but i can;t connect from anyt other pc on my lan. It says connecrion refused to port 20. Any suggestions?
[04:10] <Tedd> Hmm.
[04:10] <hawking> am i evil?
[04:10] <hawking> yes I am
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dribbel: is it listening on a public ip?
[04:10] <idiot> How can I turn off power saving in Linux
[04:10] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, do you mean apm | apci pwoersaving (suspend-resume crap)?
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> idiot: try this: sudo echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:10] <casola> ciao
[04:10] <Agrajag> Dribbel: port 20?
[04:10] <Agrajag> ssh doesn't run on 20
[04:10] <da_shrewd> blizzkid,i have problem with my cd-rom
[04:11] <casola> ciao
[04:11] <Seveas> da_shrewd, be more specific...
[04:11] <blizzkid> da_shrewd, I have problem with pants
[04:11] <scud_> aloha pantas
[04:11] <idiot> Huh
[04:11] <Dribbel> duh, 22 ofcourse:   ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused
[04:11] <pantas> helo
[04:11] <idiot> oh
[04:11] <Dribbel> my bad
[04:11] <idiot> Now what
[04:11] <pantas> l
[04:11] <indigirl1> why 12 (3x4) repositories (excluding src) in breezy - this seems like more than before.
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> idiot: check your speed.
[04:12] <nxv_> can anybody tell me how to use truetype fonts with aterm?
[04:12] <da_shrewd> last week,before i upgrade my ubuntu,i can play audio cd with my cd-rom
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> idiot: and just how are you checking your speed?
[04:12] <idiot> ooooo
[04:12] <idiot> it worked.
[04:12] <idiot> now it says cpu MHz         : 2199.840
[04:12] <idiot> :)
[04:12] <idiot> Will it say like this when I reboot?
[04:12] <Tedd> Can anybody help me out? The disc that I burned Ubuntu to just won't load. It doesn't even recognize it.
[04:12] <da_shrewd> but now,after upgrade,my cd-rom doesn't detect any cd
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> idiot: no, but now we have an idea of what's doing it.
[04:12] <idiot> whats doing it =(
[04:13] <navarone> Plus-V-Ducky> In System/Admin/Devices  I can see the processor listed in entries but it gives no info. However in Adnaced tab it states something like "processor_throttle"  "false". Would I be wrong to assume that this means the os cannot dynamically lower processor speed to save power? That may be idiot's prob as was suggested if amd 64bit arch supports throttling processor...just a thought
[04:13] <blizzkid> Tedd, did you burn cd from image or just put the iso on a cd?
[04:13] <Tedd> Oooh.
[04:13] <Tedd> I burned the ISO onto a CD.
[04:13] <Tedd> Sorry. I was wondering what that meant.
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> idiot: powernowd probably.
[04:13] <Tedd> (I'm a bit new at this, sorry.)
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> idiot: remove it if you have it.
[04:13] <idiot> let me check.
[04:13] <idiot> Yeah I have it
[04:13] <indigirl1> repositories seem redundant -- why an update repository
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> idiot: sudo apt-get remove powernowd
[04:14] <da_shrewd> any respon from my problem?
[04:14] <idiot> k
[04:14] <navarone> Lee> check my post above to see if it makes sense plz...:)
[04:14] <idiot> All gone
[04:14] <blizzkid> Tedd, no need to apologize
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> idiot: then it shouldn't put it into a power saving mode on your next boot.
[04:14] <idiot> now if I restart my CPU speed should be @ 2.2
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> idiot: should be.
[04:14] <Tedd> So what would 'burn the cd from image' mean?
[04:14] <idiot> Ok, let me try ;) thx for your help
[04:14] <Plus-V-ducky> Ask LeeJunFan.  I really have no clue about that as I've never had the chance to play with it.  Though I'm following this with interest as I've install Ubuntu on a customer's powerstepping Centrino laptop to get him to consider using Linux.
[04:14] <blizzkid> Tedd, what burning software do you use?
[04:15] <Tedd> The standard Windows one.
[04:15] <da_shrewd> any respon from my problem?
[04:15] <Tedd> It doesn't really have a name.
[04:15] <da_shrewd> last week,before i upgrade my ubuntu,i can play audio cd with my cd-rom
[04:15] <Tedd> What should I try?
[04:15] <Tedd> Roxio?
[04:15] <da_shrewd> but now,after upgrade,my cd-rom doesn't detect any cd
[04:15] <blizzkid> Tedd, search microsoft.com for the iso-burner or get a demo of nero
[04:15] <Tedd> Iso-Burner. Got it. Thanks a lot.
[04:15] <Plus-V-ducky> navarone, what you say *sounds* reasonable, but your guess is better than mine
[04:16] <navarone> Plus> I doubt that...lol
[04:16] <mon> hi. gnome-panel often takes up more Ram (~100M) than Xorg. could this be because of a specific applet and if so how do i find out which?
[04:16] <da_shrewd> somebody,please help me
[04:16] <da_shrewd> anybody?
[04:16] <Plus-V-ducky> navarone, I believe Ubuntu *does* support throttling from something I've read, but maybe it needs a package
[04:16] <da_shrewd> nobody? :(
[04:17] <Tedd> Nothing from Microsoft on Iso-Burner and jesus CHRIST is it cold in here.
[04:17] <idiot> It worked, thanks.
[04:17] <LeeJunFan> idiot: yer welcome.
[04:17] <blizzkid> Tedd, download a demo of nero
[04:17] <kandoora_> does anyone know anything about flash for linux f4l
[04:17] <navarone> Plus> probably the thing Lee told idiot to remove
[04:17] <hoopotus> how do I acticate the recovery-mode???
[04:17] <hoopotus> *activate
[04:17] <Tedd> Hmm. Before going that far, would this work blizzkid
[04:17] <Tedd> http://www.download.com/Instant-CD-DVD-Burner/3000-2646_4-10454016.html?tag=lst-0-1
[04:17] <Matrice64> I have the same problem too, I burned ubuntu from image using k3b and the cd won't boot although I can read the cd and see all the files :S
[04:17] <Tedd> It says in the subject 'and ISO files'.
[04:17] <da_shrewd> seveas,can u help me?
[04:18] <da_shrewd> i need ur help
[04:18] <Plus-V-ducky> Certainly they've aimed right at laptops with STR and STD (no pun intended), bluetooth, and broadcom/ndiswrapper support
[04:18] <ClayG> anyone know a good program to convert a .bin into a mpg?
[04:18] <ClayG> if it is an mpg, of coarse
[04:18] <ClayG> besides burning it then pulling the mpg off? Is there a daemontools or vcdgear for nix
[04:19] <Plus-V-ducky> Matrice64, do the MD5 checksums match?
[04:19] <kandoora_> does anyone here use any program for making flash files
[04:19] <Dribbel> hmm still no luck with ssh access, still "Connection refused"
[04:19] <da_shrewd> help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:19] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, yes, I downloaded it from that page with the mirrored sites
[04:19] <LeeJunFan> Plus-V-ducky: powernowd is for AMD64's only I beleive, intel uses a different technology called speedstepping, I dont know if the powernowd will have the same effect on a non-amd system but it should because the acpi settings in the kernel /sys dir should be the same.
[04:20] <IRCMonkey999> newbie here. Where can i download vlc for ubuntu and how do i instal it?
[04:20] <Plus-V-ducky> And after you burnt it, did you mkmd5sum on the actual CD?
[04:20] <ClayG> ahh there is a vcdgear for nix, and it's only CLI
[04:20] <Plus-V-ducky> LeeJunFan, TYVM
[04:20] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, I'm not sure I can't remember, plus I've already utterly deleted the iso :(
[04:20] <kandoora_> does anyone use any flash making program
[04:20] <LeeJunFan> Plus-V-ducky: yeah, powernowd will work - apt-cache show powernowd
[04:21] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, add repositories universe and multiverse within synaptic package manager
[04:21] <Plus-V-ducky> Matrice64, it's not something silly like a BIOS switch
[04:21] <Plus-V-ducky> LeeJunFan, I think I read about powernowd in a gentoo Centrino laptop install howto
[04:22] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: i dont understand soo much. am a new user to linux. can you please tell me how to do that. i am on gnome desktop now.
[04:22] <_jason> kandoora_, I don't use it but I have heard of a program called flash4linux... try searching sourceforge
[04:22] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, afiak when I set the boot device it does nothing but brings me back to lilo
[04:22] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, can't I do a command and boot it from lilo ?
[04:22] <LeeJunFan> Plus-V-ducky: yeah, the package info says the name is misleading and that it will work for any cpufreq capable processor.
[04:22] <kandoora_> _jason, thanx
[04:22] <da_shrewd> seveas,i need your help please
[04:22] <Ueuecoyotl> In the Ubuntu FAQ Guide it says "network.dns.disableIPv6  - Set the Value  parameter to true." to load web sites faster. Why does that speed things up?
[04:22] <Seveas> da_shrewd, I am very busy
[04:23] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, top left corner, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:23] <Tedd> Blizzkid: Thanks for the help; this Instant CD & DVD Burner's "Burn ISO" function seems to be working.
[04:23] <Seveas> Ueuecoyotl, many providers suck at ipv6 support, so disabling it speeds up a lot
[04:23] <Tedd> Hopefully next time we speak I'll be using Ubuntu :)
[04:23] <da_shrewd> anybody kindly to help me
[04:23] <Plus-V-ducky> Matrice64, so it's like there's no boot code there.  Yeah,but I'd replace LILO with GRUB just on priciple, then you only have to learn GRUB commands
[04:23] <Tedd> Thanks a lot, guys.
[04:23] <Ueuecoyotl> Seveas, Ah, didn't know that. Thanks.
[04:24] <Plus-V-ducky> Matrice64 -- maybe silly but is possible that it's going by so fast after post that you're not even seing the 'hit any key to boot from CD message'?
[04:24] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, Settings->Repositories->Add
[04:24] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, yeah, its like it skips the whole cd and goes to lilo.. when I use grub what command do I need to do too boot?
[04:24] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: nothings happening or opening.
[04:24] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky,
[04:24] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, I'll try to tap keys
[04:24] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: just some sound and i dont see any windows :(
[04:24] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, let me reboot and try it okay
[04:25] <Plus-V-ducky> You could look at the CD for boot code too
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> Matrice64: sounds like the bios is set to boot CD first, might try hitting escape during post to get a list of available boot devices to select from too.
[04:25] <Plus-V-ducky> (if you canmoutn it)
[04:25] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: should i reboot and try. i have not yet rebooted after installing ubuntu
[04:25] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, what did you click?
[04:25] <Matrice64> thanks guys I'll brb, I'm gonna try it
[04:26] <Plus-V-ducky> SOme BIOS use F12 or even F8 (*like a certain OS we all *love*)
[04:26] <needvpn> I installed Ubuntu with a static IP.  I now need to use DHCP.  I have the DHCP client installed.  How do I get my computer to use dhcp instead?
[04:26] <da_shrewd> anyone,please help me
[04:26] <ClayG> F8? That would sucks trying to time  SM
[04:26] <DeadZed> my Ubuntu-nvidia-sony.CRT screen resolution is 640x320 ... no matter what I do or how I change xorg.conf.  ..  ubuntu recognises nvidia card and sony screen absolutely correctly, but I cannot change resolution
[04:26] <IRCMonkey999> system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[04:26] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: infact nothing in the administration menu opens when i click them
[04:27] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: when i click "users and groups" something comes up in the status bar and disappears
[04:27] <Pegasos989> How do I edit read only files? Now that I can't login asa root, I'll propably need to so some sudo commands, but dunno which
[04:27] <trappist> Pegasos989: sudo $EDITOR filename
[04:27] <Plus-V-ducky> needvpn, edit /etc/network/interfaces (or use the desktop admin tools)
[04:28] <Pegasos989> trappist, okay, thanks
[04:28] <kandoora_> if i'm gonna download a program from sourceforge should i download .bz2 or .deb
[04:28] <Dasnipa`> nano rules
[04:28] <Plus-V-ducky> eth0 dhcp
[04:28] <Plus-V-ducky> auto eth0
[04:28] <Plus-V-ducky> (for example)
[04:28] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: sorry... some of the options in the admistration menu are opening up... like screen resolution preferences
[04:28] <Plus-V-ducky> man /etc/network/interfaces has detailed examples
[04:28] <trappist> kandoora_: odds are the deb is made for debian.  unless it's statically compiled I'd go with the tarball.
[04:29] <Plus-V-ducky> Dasnipa`, nano can corrupt files
[04:29] <ceej> hey
[04:29] <needvpn> Plus-V-ducky: Thanks
[04:29] <kandoora_> trappist, can u refresh my memory, what are the steps of compiling tarball
[04:29] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, what version ubuntu did you install (do you know)?
[04:29] <tidi> how to change display setting on ubuntu 5.1 locked on 640x480?
[04:29] <IRCMonkey999> ubuntu 5.10
[04:29] <ceej> is there anyway to change permissions on another partition if it say used for windows?
[04:29] <trappist> kandoora_: depends on what's in the tarball, but generally ./configure && make && make install
[04:29] <linlin> hi, i need to use apt-get on a proxy, where do i set this up
[04:29] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: ubuntu 5.10
[04:30] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, okay. restart maybe. unlikely to help though
[04:30] <kandoora_> trappist, thanx a million
[04:30] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, guess what you were right :D, the text just fly by fast
[04:30] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999, also try the command line instead of menu
[04:30] <tidi> any help friends
[04:30] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: thanx ...
[04:30] <Absenth> what is the command to re-sync the system clock with an NTP server?
[04:30] <Plus-V-ducky> tidi, try Ctrl+/- on the numeric keypad
[04:31] <Matrice64> Plus-V-ducky, thanks for the tip, I'll have to install breezy when I get back from my appointment :)
[04:31] <ceej> is there anyway to change permissions on another partition? sudo chmod 777 /dir dosn't seem to change the permissions
[04:31] <tidi> thanks
[04:31] <Plus-V-ducky> tidi if you can't switch video modes that way, look in... me cudgels his birdbrain
[04:31] <Plus-V-ducky> tidi did it work?
[04:31] <tidi> not at that computer
[04:31] <tidi> thanks duck
[04:31] <Dasnipa`> did the video drivers take properly?
[04:31] <tidi> i am nubb
[04:32] <tidi> my drivers loaded ok
[04:32] <Plus-V-ducky> tidi yo still need to set the dfaault, are you using Xorg or XFree86 brand of X11?
[04:33] <tidi> xfree86
[04:33] <trappist> ceej: you need to mount the partition with umask=0000
[04:33] <Plus-V-ducky> Matrice64, that's gratifying to know thanks for telling us.  (the big hint was that the rest of the CD was OK)
[04:33] <trappist> ceej: but that's an exceedingly permissive umask and I don't recommend it
[04:33] <tidi> i go try thanks ducky
[04:34] <Plus-V-ducky> tidi try xfree86config
[04:34] <ceej> trappist: k well thanks for the help
[04:34] <blizzkid> trappist: belgian by any chance?
[04:34] <tidi> later
[04:35] <Plus-V-ducky> or you can do it with debconf or dpkg sometimes (X11R6.3 ?)
[04:35] <ClayG> what is a "toast compatible mpg"?
[04:36] <bigfoot1> i tried xkill-ing vlc media player but it's still alive. help
[04:36] <Pegasos989> I _HATE_ terminal text editors. :((( How do I save a file that I have open in vim
[04:36] <blizzkid> Pegasos989, wq
[04:37] <Absenth> Pegasos989,  esc, :, wq    enter
[04:37] <Plus-V-ducky> trappist, sudo chmod 11777,Rf /
[04:37] <Plus-V-ducky> muahahaha
[04:37] <Pegasos989> thx
[04:37] <Absenth> Pegasos989,  or esc, shift+zz
[04:37] <Ueuecoyotl> Pegasos989, why don't you use pico then? That's easy
[04:37] <trappist> blizzkid: no, I just like belgian beer :)
[04:38] <blizzkid> Pegasos989, instead of vim type gedit if you don't like terminal editors
[04:38] <Absenth> Ueuecoyotl, nano is the "free" version of pico, and is included in the default install :)
[04:38] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i want to save a webpage for archiving purposes, and i tried file -> save page as... in firefox and the resulting page doesn't look right at all, is there a better programme for this purpose?
[04:38] <sexcopter8000m> even a pdf or similar output is fine, doesn't have to be html
[04:38] <blizzkid> sexcopter8000m, try wget
[04:38] <Plus-V-ducky> bigfoot1, do [console] :$ ps -C [command_name_of _vlc]  |kill -9
[04:39] <trappist> sexcopter8000m: print to file
[04:39] <Ueuecoyotl> Absenth, good to know, thanks :)
[04:39] <sexcopter8000m> blizzkid, how do you use wget for webpages? i only know how to use wget to get files from a url
[04:39] <ClayG> hmm this pHo kid runs the vcdgear forums
[04:39] <ClayG> he also <i think> runs the vcdquality ones
[04:39] <blizzkid> sexcopter8000m, just wget url
[04:39] <Pegasos989> thanks blizz
[04:39] <Absenth> does anyone remember what the search & replace option in vim is?  It's something like :s% oldstuff newstuff     but I can't remember the exact syntax
[04:39] <trappist> sexcopter8000m: man wget.  there are lots of options depending on how you want to do it
[04:39] <Plus-V-ducky> # whatis Linux kung Fu
[04:39] <trappist> blizzkid: wget will only get the single file, no images etc. unless you use the appropriate options
[04:40] <trappist> Plus-V-ducky: ?
[04:40] <navarone> sexcopter> you may want to try extensions in firefox...Tools/Extensions/get more extensions  and look at the download section
[04:40] <blizzkid> trappist: I assume he can read, so: man wget ;-)
[04:40] <sexcopter8000m> ah, trappist that print to file worked, thanks
[04:40] <bigfoot1> how do i know the command name of vlc?
[04:40] <kandoora_> is there a program which can open .eps files without having to download ghost script
[04:40] <Plus-V-ducky> If you had a fork, would the other group register linuxtaichi.org, trappist?
[04:40] <Plus-V-ducky> ;-D
[04:41] <trappist> Plus-V-ducky: linuxaikido.org preferably :)
[04:41] <Plus-V-ducky> linuxaikido.jp perhaps
[04:41] <navarone> sexcopter...Flashgot extension may suit your purposes
[04:42] <Plus-V-ducky> FQD: northern|southern.temples.shaolinux.org
[04:42] <ClayG> Flashgot is great, if there was a nix download manager worthy it would be better
[04:42] <ClayG> We need a FlashGET
[04:43] <navarone> sexcopter> I just gaw magpie...and i think is the one actually
[04:43] <navarone> firefox extenisions are...ummm...extenisiove
[04:43] <Absenth> Does anyone know the syntax in vim to search for all instances of a string, and replace it with another string?
[04:44] <trappist> Absenth: :%s/string1/string2/g
[04:44] <Absenth> trappist, that's where I was screwing up....  no spaces :)  thanks.
[04:44] <kandoora_> if i've just installed ubuntu what files do i need to compile
[04:44] <kandoora_> the basic ones
[04:45] <Plus-V-ducky> trappist, hmmm... nice http://freshmeat.net/projects/ipkungfu/
[04:45] <kent> kandoora_, build-essential
[04:45] <trappist> kandoora_: you don't need to compile anything unless there's a something you need and there's no package for it
[04:45] <idiot> hci_usb, something is using this file how can I find out?
[04:45] <trappist> idiot: sudo lsof | grep hci_usb
[04:46] <devilz_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[04:46] <devilz_> Message: device: default
[04:46] <devilz_> i'm trying to open xmms and i get this msg
[04:46] <idiot> Nothing came up trappist.
[04:46] <trappist> devilz_: that's not a problem
[04:46] <Plus-V-ducky> trappist, shouldn't that be uhci (for VIA USB chipsets)?
[04:46] <idiot> but I need this file to be unused so I can use VMware =/.
[04:46] <kandoora_> trappist, well there's no package for spalah flash
[04:46] <idiot> and VMWARe says its in use.
[04:46] <trappist> devilz_: export LOCALE=C if you like
[04:46] <kandoora_> trappist, it's a program to make flash files
[04:47] <Plus-V-ducky> err, nm -- grep uses regexp and will find a text embedded string  -- sorry
[04:47] <kandoora_> kent, thanks
[04:48] <devilz_> trappist, well i installed xmms, but i cant set volume to down or up
[04:48] <devilz_> so its always so loud
[04:48] <devilz_> but when i try watching movies mplayer its ok
[04:49] <devilz_> so i tought maybe this error might be the problem
[04:49] <adiey> hellooo gengggg
[04:49] <adiey> apo khabarrrr
[04:49] <trappist> devilz_: you might need to modify xmms's output to esound
[04:49] <devilz_> how?
[04:50] <trappist> it's in the preferences somewhere
[04:50] <navarone> devilz> right click the xmms gui and chose options
[04:50] <adiey> tak tidur lagi ker???????????
[04:50] <adiey> mu duk wat gapooooo
[04:50] <Chousuke> English.
[04:50] <j813> total linux newb here no programming knowlege, when I'm trying to install somthing, instructions says ./configure should that install it?
[04:50] <devilz_> navarone, yes
[04:50] <Chousuke> :P
[04:50] <devilz_> i know
[04:50] <devilz_> but what to do
[04:51] <devilz_> ;)
[04:51] <trappist> j813: ./configure then make then sudo make install
[04:51] <Chousuke> j813: why are you trying to compile?
[04:51] <navarone> devilz> i have output set at oss plugin...i use sb live 24bit soundcard
[04:51] <Chousuke> what software?
[04:51] <sally_> my second hard drive, hdb, has ez-drive on it, and in debian I could mount it by adding hdb=remap to the kernel options on boot and then mounting it as usual, but in ubuntu when I try to mount it I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, does anyone know how to fix this
[04:51] <j813> chop xine etc.
[04:51] <Chousuke> j813: erm, sudo apt-get install xine?
[04:51] <devilz_> navarone, well by default i have oss too
[04:52] <j813> Chou i mean, no idea what ur talkin bout
[04:52] <navarone> sally> i think ezdrive is used to allow old bioses to see large drives...other than that I cannot offer any real option...other than flashing bios and possibly formatting...<s>
[04:52] <j813> sorry
[04:52] <Chousuke> !apt
[04:52] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[04:52] <Plus-V-ducky> trappist,  bash-cheat-sheet  <3  <3  <3
[04:52] <Plus-V-ducky> =oD
[04:53] <j813> Chou I'm tootally new with Linux
[04:54] <Toran> how can I use "du" to only show stuff above a certain size?
[04:54] <devilz_> hm
[04:54] <devilz_> navarone, when i put my scroler to 0%
[04:54] <devilz_> its working then
[04:54] <sally_> navarone, yeah I had to use it because my hard drive is 160gb and I read that if I didnt use it I would only be able to use 137 gb or something...
[04:54] <devilz_> well its muted
[04:54] <devilz_> :)
[04:54] <trappist> Toran: I use | grep M, for example, to help at least a little
[04:55] <Plus-V-ducky> "Are you a spambot? If so, Click Here <bogus HREF> for an endless supply of bogus email addresses."   -- LOL
[04:55] <Toran> that would help, I guess, kind of a kluge though
[04:55] <daved> preferred paste site?
[04:55] <daved> nm, just saw topc
[04:55] <ice9> how do I upgrade to ubuntu 64
[04:55] <Plus-V-ducky> trappist who's your webmin? (I want their autograph)
[04:55] <trappist> Plus-V-ducky: me :)
[04:56] <Plus-V-ducky> Fulltime business for you?
[04:56] <trappist> nah.
[04:56] <ice9> anyone
[04:56] <navarone> sally> you can check the bios version you have at boot and try to find newer version. Once you update bios (it's easier than you think) you can possibly wipe the drive (if that's an option) and format and reinstall if it to be more than a storage drive
[04:56] <daved> ok.. i have an onboard sound card on my mobo, and an sb live pci... i just disabled the onboard sound because i was having weirdness with it and want to only use the sb live.. after i did that, when i run aplay, i get the error seen here
[04:56] <daved> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4916
[04:56] <daved> how can i "reset" my alsa settings
[04:56] <daved> it's looking for card 1 which doesnt exist
[04:57] <Plus-V-ducky> heh -- I though 'lartc' stood for lart-cluster (bomb) at 1st
[04:57] <Absenth> Plus-V-ducky,  I actually have a Lart hanging over my desk :)
[04:57] <devilz_> hm its working now
[04:58] <sally_> navarone, that's my plan actually, but I need to access the drive and copy the stuff off of it first
[04:58] <navarone> sally> I just put in new 250 gigger and had same prob. Had to load a ddo to let bios see full size. That interferred with boot process so I deleted all aprtions and, after updating bios, set up drive again with partions and enough unused space for ubuntu
[04:58] <devilz_> i guess i have alsa
[04:58] <sally_> navarone, whats ddo
[04:58] <Plus-V-ducky> Absenth, how can that be, since a lart is an abstraction?
[04:58] <adiey>    
[04:58] <devilz_> btw how can i change keyboard to slovenian
[04:59] <blizzkid> adiey, english please?
[04:59] <Absenth> Plus-V-ducky,  l user, attitude, readjustment , "TOOL"....  :)  mine is specifically a foam cluebat.
[04:59] <Plus-V-ducky> oooh, Arabic -- this kubuntu certainly goes nuts with UTF-8 and ISO8859 charsets
[04:59] <navarone> sally> the setup cd for the new drive possibly came with software that would let you copy a parition to new drive...check out cd and manufacturers web site. I have wd drive and it used Data Lifeguard to do task
[04:59] <devilz_> i went system -> preferences-> keyboard
[04:59] <Toran> that arabic looks really cool
[04:59] <devilz_> and added slovenian
[04:59] <devilz_> but still not working
[04:59] <trappist> Absenth: mine is a +5 Cluebat of Enlightenment
[04:59] <Absenth> trappist,  heh.
[04:59] <navarone> sally>a  ddo is bios workaround that's entered into mbr and allows old bios to see large drive size
[04:59] <Absenth> trappist,  I wouldn't want them too enlightened.
[05:00] <adiey>    
[05:00] <navarone> adiey> r u okay?
[05:00] <Plus-V-ducky> Absenth, ooohh (I always think of bash scripts that do things like # finger | rm -rf ~/../$?)
[05:02] <navarone> toran> yeah but reaaaally small
[05:02] <adiey> im ok
[05:02] <adiey>    
[05:02] <adiey> ok
[05:02] <adiey> english right now
[05:02] <adiey> navarone
[05:02] <adiey> how are u?
[05:02] <adiey> blizz kid
[05:02] <adiey> hiiii
[05:02] <navarone> I am good adiey...u?
[05:02] <adiey> fine
[05:02] <adiey> asl u navarone?
[05:03] <Toran> Hehe
[05:03] <Happuf> feel good!
[05:03] <adiey> heheheheh
[05:03] <adiey> i feeelll niceee
[05:03] <adiey> like sugar n spiceeee
[05:03] <_jason> adiey, #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to chat, try to keep this channel support related
[05:03] <adiey> yeahhh
[05:04] <navarone> adiey...i don't do asl...thanks
[05:04] <adiey> oic
[05:04] <adiey> soryyy
[05:04] <adiey> hehe
[05:04] <navarone> np
[05:05] <adiey> i have a problem regarding this ubuntu
[05:05] <ICE9> anyone know how to upgrade to 64 bit ubuntu ?
[05:05] <adiey> does it support macromedia?
[05:05] <adiey> ????
[05:05] <_jason> adiey, you can get flash
[05:05] <adiey> anybody?
[05:05] <mark__> when i play dvd's I see strange horizontal marks in both totem-xine and vlc, is this an interlacing problem or something else?
[05:05] <navarone> macaromedia plugin?
[05:05] <adiey> i want such as dreamweaver
[05:06] <adiey> macromedia mx packages
[05:06] <adiey> anybody?
[05:06] <trappist> some of them will work in wine
[05:06] <mark__> i've tried different deinterlace modes and none seem to fix it
[05:06] <navarone> adiey> i don't think macromedia has ported anyhting to linux...:/
[05:06] <Absenth> adiey, if you own Macromedia MX, you can use wine, or Crossover office (www.codeweavers.com) to install them on linux.
[05:06] <adiey> and one more problem
[05:06] <trappist> navarone: except flash
[05:07] <Absenth> adiey,  else,  a package called nvu allows you to created websites in a dreamweaver like fashion.
[05:07] <adiey> why i cant play mp3 in a list of collection?
[05:07] <server_newbie> can someone point me to a good howto for ftp overssh? I have openssh & proftpd on the server and ws_ftp & putty on the client. I can't get it up and running. Thanks
[05:07] <Phoul> How do i intall a .deb i totaly forgot
[05:07] <adiey> such as winamp?
[05:07] <Absenth> tell adiey about mp3
[05:07] <_jason> Phoul, dpkg -i file.deb
[05:07] <ufish> hi, i have a problem... when installing linux with a burned CD imagem, he runs, i put the keyboard language but than he says that can't mount CD-ROM
[05:07] <adiey> just have totem
[05:08] <trappist> server_newbie: sftp
[05:08] <adiey> anybody
[05:08] <navarone> adiey> install xmss
[05:08] <adiey> hehehehe
[05:08] <adiey> xmms?
[05:08] <adiey> where i can get it?
[05:08] <Absenth> adiey didn't ubotu send you a message?
[05:08] <navarone> Synaptic
[05:08] <Ueuecoyotl> adiey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:08] <Absenth> !tell adiey about mp3
[05:09] <Absenth> there we go.
[05:09] <adiey> i have try from synactic packages
[05:09] <navarone> sally> if you chose to redo drive after bios you may also want to consider making a fat32 partion to ease transfer of files from linux to windows...if you need
[05:09] <Mahatschmal> Hallo world
[05:10] <navarone> adiey>yes
[05:11] <adiey> navarone
[05:11] <Plus-V-ducky> trappist, how do you afford the bandwidth?  j00 go75 t3h 3Y3-E55-P33 sP0|\|Z0r?
[05:11] <navarone> yes?
[05:11] <adiey> so
[05:11] <adiey> i can get it from synactic?
[05:11] <trappist> Plus-V-ducky: I don't have that fat a pipe
[05:11] <navarone> adiey> yes
[05:11] <adiey> my ubuntu is gnome
[05:12] <adiey> is there any ubuntu with kde?
[05:12] <navarone> adiey> that doesn't amtter for xmss
[05:12] <navarone> adiey kubuntu
[05:12] <Plus-V-ducky> I *really* hope that's not an intentional pun
[05:12] <linuxboy> adiey: yes, kubuntu
[05:12] <adiey> oic
[05:12] <adiey> thank
[05:12] <ufish> can somebody help me
[05:12] <ufish> hi, i have a problem..when i'm installing linux with a burned CD imagem, he runs, i put the keyboard language but than he says that can't mount CD-ROM
[05:12] <Absenth> trappist,  what site is it that Plus-V-ducky  likes so much?
[05:13] <trappist> linuxkungfu.org
[05:13] <Absenth> trappist,  I can't help it, I'm nosey.
[05:13] <trappist> it's not much to be proud of :)
[05:13] <dducko> ufish, do you have 2 cd rom drives?
[05:13] <Bob332> Hey guys
[05:13] <adiey> navarone....i have install the xmms
[05:13] <Absenth> trappist, looks great
[05:13] <Bob332> is there a server mode i can run this in, simular to a stock debian system?
[05:13] <adiey> but not functioning
[05:14] <adiey> like hanggg
[05:14] <j813> guys what's the differences of Edubuntu, Kubuntu & the reg Ubuntu?
[05:14] <Absenth> trappist,  (has a fat pipe :)  http://www.darksidepraetorians.com/absenth/sweet.GIF
[05:14] <adiey> it cant be close
[05:14] <adiey> navarone
[05:14] <adiey> help me
[05:14] <trappist> Absenth: yeah I'll take that pipe
[05:15] <Absenth> j813,  ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce, edubuntu = an LTSP based distro.
[05:15] <adiey> anyone
[05:15] <adiey> plz
[05:15] <Absenth> trappist,  the upload test was nerfed, as the file was only ~ 3mb.  it took just over a second to upload the whole thing.  It's 10mb/s full duplex.
[05:15] <adiey> i buntu about ubuntu xmms
[05:15] <Absenth> adiey, Patience.
[05:15] <tritium> adiey, please don't use the enter key for punctuation
[05:16] <adiey> tritium ok...
[05:16] <Plus-V-ducky> j00 go7z |o7s of the cL4$$ikz!
[05:16] <adiey> kubuntu tentang cinta ini
[05:17] <adiey> ku rasa sungguh sedih dan kecewa dengan ubuntu
[05:17] <Urthmover> question:  what is the easy way to install the Xvid codecs on breezy?
[05:17] <Astxist> Urthmover, I believe gstreamer has an xvid package
[05:17] <tritium> adiey, English please
[05:17] <Urthmover> ok sweet ast
[05:17] <Urthmover> thx
[05:17] <adiey> ok
[05:18] <adiey> ok
[05:18] <Urthmover> can I find a codec so that it will play through scrotum?
[05:18] <adiey> i go first
[05:18] <adiey> u go second
[05:18] <adiey> cow sing chiiii
[05:18] <Urthmover> I mean totem
[05:18] <adiey> bye
[05:18] <Urthmover> :-)
[05:18] <navarone> Urthmover> sounds painful...;)
[05:18] <adiey> take careeee
[05:18] <adiey> heheheheh
[05:18] <Plus-V-ducky> LOL echo "nothing to see here" > ~/htdocs/index.html
[05:18] <Astxist> Urthmover, gstreamer0.8-xvid is the one you're after
[05:18] <Plus-V-ducky> Absenth,
[05:19] <Astxist> well should be the one
[05:19] <Absenth> Plus-V-ducky,  yeah?
[05:19] <Urthmover> oh I get it . ....... apt-get install g-streamer...
[05:19] <Plus-V-ducky> locate:nothing+to+see+here
[05:19] <Astxist> don't forget sudo
[05:19] <Plus-V-ducky> no hits!
[05:19] <keyes> does anyone have a tip to increase the speed of eclipse?
[05:19] <keyes> it's very slloooowwwww
[05:19] <Phoul> It says i have a broken package but how do i find it?
[05:19] <Plus-V-ducky> (Inet search)
[05:20] <keyes> (and buggy)
[05:20] <Urthmover> sweet Ast you rock
[05:20] <Plus-V-ducky> ironically enough
[05:20] <Phoul> anyone?
[05:20] <pshcat> does anyone have an idea how i can test my samba server?
[05:20] <Absenth> Plus-V-ducky, heh.....  www.jdrweb.com (one of the servers/services I manage)
[05:20] <pshcat> i've installed samba from sources and started it, but no idea how to test it now
[05:20] <Plus-V-ducky> Astxist, did you feel the Urthmove?
[05:20] <Phoul> Can somone tell me how i can remove a broken package?
[05:21] <ICE9> I got a ? I want to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 how do I do that
[05:21] <K_Dallas> Phoul, if you use synaptic it has it in its menu
[05:21] <Absenth> Phoul,  sudo apt-get remove packagename
[05:21] <tritium> Phoul, why do you think it's broken?
[05:21] <Phoul> It says i have 1 broken package and i need to remove it before i can do anything
[05:21] <devilz_> btw if have 512ram ddr how much swap do i need to have
[05:21] <K_Dallas> Absenth, if my memory helps there is an option for apt-get to force the removie
[05:21] <tritium> Phoul, you might also want to use the --purge option
[05:22] <Phoul> purge?
[05:22] <tritium> with apt-get
[05:22] <K_Dallas> that is it
[05:22] <Urthmover> shouldn't I be able to watch Xvid movies on a PIII800 with 512 ram?
[05:22] <Urthmover> it's not full speed
[05:22] <Phoul> apt-get --purge?
[05:22] <Phoul> What does that do
[05:22] <tritium> Phoul, apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[05:22] <gfish> hello
[05:22] <Phoul> I dont know the package name
[05:22] <gfish> how do i burn audio cds
[05:22] <Phoul> Im guessing its skype
[05:23] <K_Dallas> gfish, you could try k3b
[05:23] <CosmoDad> can I have both Blackdown's and SUN's implementation of java (re/sdk) installed at the same time?
[05:23] <Phoul> Is there anyway to just view broken links?
[05:24] <gfish> K_Dallas. does this actually work and do u use it urself
[05:24] <Phoul> Hello?
[05:24] <Phoul> Is it possible to view all broken packages?
[05:24] <Plus-V-ducky> Absenth, I'd boil it down or put more whitespace (CRtn) or bullet it or something, although the graphics and loadtimes kicka55 (remember the attentions span of the typical vhost customer -- heh)
[05:24] <MenZa`> yays
[05:24] <CosmoDad> Phoul: you can do that with aptitude
[05:24] <MenZa`> my ubuntu shipit cds are at the postoffice :)
[05:24] <Phoul> aptitude
[05:25] <ICE9> does anyone know how to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit  ?
[05:25] <sabmann> for openoffice pure 2.0 add deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./ to repos
[05:25] <ICE9> I really need some assistance
[05:25] <trappist> ICE9: it's a whole new operating system.  you reinstall.
[05:25] <ICE9> you can't upgrade at all
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> ICE9, hardware or software ?
[05:25] <K_Dallas> gfish, k3b is supposedly one of the best and yes it works
[05:25] <Plus-V-ducky> (pretty darn good, though overall)
[05:25] <ICE9> software
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> ICE9, software then trappist's advice will do :P
[05:26] <Hali_303> hi
[05:26] <Absenth> Plus-V-ducky, lucky for me, I just run the servers.  our web developer builds the stuff I host.  (10mb/s really helps the load times :)
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> k3b is one of the best ... not supposedly
[05:26] <ICE9> ok
[05:26] <trappist> k3b does pretty much rock
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> i rate it as high as nero unlimited
[05:27] <ICE9> so just download the iso for 64 bit verision then
[05:27] <Plus-V-ducky> heh, bounhce some ICMP echo req off of arnducky.net
[05:27] <Hali_303> i'm trying to setup remote X applications. however, if I run a xev -display localhost:0 on the machine I'm running X on, it says xev:  unable to open display 'localhost:0'
[05:27] <Hali_303> any hints?
[05:27] <trappist> wickedpuppy: I was about to say I like it better than nero
[05:27] <HansZwolle> Hali_303, yes, something met export display
[05:27] <trappist> Hali_303: try just :0
[05:27] <ICE9> just download the 64 bit version then
[05:27] <HansZwolle> I will search @ google now
[05:27] <ICE9> as a iso
[05:27] <Plus-V-ducky> 100 mbit/s to dual SONET rings (oc-12) with peering
[05:28] <Daywalker> anybody installed a star sp 200 printer on ubuntu?
[05:28] <joe_alf> is there a world clock software on ubuntu
[05:28] <clifford_> Hi guys. Is there any way to make ubuntu/gnome behave like other windowmanagers where you can resize the window using alt-right mouse button?
[05:28] <Hali_303> HansZwolle, trappist: :0 works, but localhost:0 doesnt
[05:28] <ICE9> xfce has a world clock
[05:28] <Absenth> Plus-V-ducky, that probibly costs a bit more then our monthly colo :)
[05:28] <Plus-V-ducky> joe_alf, yep,a nd guesss waht it's called
[05:28] <HansZwolle> ah ok
[05:28] <Plus-V-ducky> Absenth newp, i *guarantee* not
[05:29] <Plus-V-ducky> Uni Buddy is the BoFH/BMFH
[05:29] <Astxist> pshcat, er I guess you'd try using it :)
[05:29] <Absenth> it would cost us more :)  we're at $1300 a month, including a 10mb/s full duplex uplink, and 40U of rackspace at nFrame.com
[05:29] <joe_alf> ICE9, what is the name of the program
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> Absenth, thats .. more than what most people earn in one year ...
[05:30] <Plus-V-ducky> That and it's only a vhost account with a bandwidth limit -- but for the tiny bytes I transfer, It's *blindingly* fast
[05:30] <Daywalker> anybody installed a star sp 200 printer on ubuntu?
[05:30] <joe_alf> ICE9, i have xfce installed
[05:30] <ICE9> I love it
[05:31] <ICE9> but now I have to install 64 bit version
[05:31] <ICE9> cause I can't get my drivers with this board
[05:31] <Plus-V-ducky> joe_alf, try apt-get install worldclock
[05:31] <ICE9> sucks
[05:31] <Absenth> wickedpuppy,  I don't think I could afford my house if I only made $1300 a month.  but I agree it's not cheap.
[05:31] <Tedd> Hey, guys.
[05:31] <Tedd> Back.
[05:31] <Tedd> And not on Ubuntu :|
[05:31] <Tedd> It gave me an error during the install
[05:32] <Tedd> "Debootstrap program exited with error (return value 1)
[05:32] <Tedd> And then after pressing continue immediately I got "Base system installation into /target/ failed".
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> Absenth, there are always bank loans ....
[05:32] <Tedd> Can anybody  help me out?
[05:32] <ClayG> anyone know if tovid can hand .bins (that containt svcd's)
[05:33] <joe_alf> Plus-V-ducky, thanks
[05:33] <trappist> ClayG: I use bchunker to convert bin/cue files to .iso
[05:33] <ClayG> this .bin contains a movie
[05:33] <Tedd> Any ideas?
[05:33] <Absenth> does anyone know of a soft SIP phone client package in ubuntu?
[05:33] <ClayG> In windows i use vcdgear to convert it to it's .mpg equiv
[05:33] <ClayG> in nix i have vcdgear but cannot get it to work
[05:34] <ClayG> can bchunker handle svcd/vcds?
[05:34] <Tedd> Anybody? :\
[05:34] <ICE9> make a cue
[05:34] <ICE9> for your bin
[05:34] <ICE9> then burn it
[05:35] <ClayG> I did that
[05:35] <ClayG> I have it on disk as well now
[05:35] <tritium> !enter
[05:35] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:35] <ICE9> so whats wrong then
[05:35] <ClayG> well svcd dont play on all dvd players
[05:35] <trappist> ClayG: mount the iso loopback and see what's on it
[05:35] <ClayG> I want to convert it to true dvd format
[05:35] <ICE9> ture
[05:35] <ICE9> ahh
[05:35] <ClayG> in windows using tmpgenc
[05:36] <ICE9> blah
[05:36] <ClayG> I heard tovid is supposed to be the sht
[05:36] <Tedd> Gerrrr.
[05:36] <ICE9> are using windows based
[05:36] <Tedd> It is COLD in here. Jesus.
[05:36] <ICE9> right
[05:36] <ClayG> no
[05:36] <andre80> will ubuntu release the whole packages like debian ?
[05:36] <ClayG> I have experience with the windows based programs, I'm trying to find nix equiv's so i can severe my MS ties
[05:36] <ICE9> there are apps out there that convert svcd to dvd
[05:37] <Tedd> Can anybody help me at all?
[05:37] <ICE9> yeah its hard
[05:37] <ClayG> well tovid wont convert a straight bin to dvd but that is exspected
[05:37] <ICE9> but there out there
[05:37] <ClayG> normally you have to convert the bin to straight up .mpg
[05:37] <ICE9> yep
[05:37] <ICE9> or avi
[05:37] <ICE9> you could do that
[05:37] <ClayG> burned on disk creates a filestructure
[05:37] <tritium> !tell ICE9 about enter
[05:37] <ClayG> and you can't just pull it off, because it(the .mpg) doens't really exist
[05:37] <Gkane> How to load a kernel (grub-manager)
[05:38] <ICE9> when did i use the enter key ?
[05:38] <ClayG> i have the software, vcdgear for nix. On 'doze it's great, is essential. I juist can't figure the syntax out
[05:38] <gfish> K3b uses cdrdao to actually write CDs.
[05:38] <gfish> Solution: Install the cdrdao package. now what?
[05:38] <ICE9> tritium
[05:38] <tritium> ICE9, too often
[05:39] <ICE9> can you upgrad 64 bit version from a 32 bit version or no
[05:39] <mjr> no
[05:39] <ICE9> damn
[05:39] <gfish> K3b uses cdrdao to actually write CDs.
[05:39] <gfish> Solution: Install the cdrdao package. what do i do now
[05:40] <ICE9> gfish what are you trying to do
[05:40] <gfish> use k3b
[05:40] <Tedd> Can anybody help me at all?
[05:40] <ICE9> its easy
[05:40] <gfish> ICE9. use k3b
[05:40] <Absenth> tedd, depends, what's the question
[05:40] <ICE9> yes
[05:40] <ICE9> what are you trying to burn
[05:40] <gfish> nothing
[05:40] <blanky> how can I disable the system beep, it beeps the heck out of everything
[05:40] <Tedd> Well, during the install I got "Debootstrap program exited with error (return value 1)
[05:41] <ICE9> umm ok
[05:41] <gfish> ICE9, it wants me to install cdrdao
[05:41] <Tedd> And after pressing enter immediately I got "Base system installation into /target/ failed."
[05:41] <brosioz> how could i rotate to print orizzontaly with openoffice writer ?
[05:41] <ICE9> so installed it
[05:41] <gfish> ICE9, how
[05:41] <gfish> ICE9, terminal
[05:42] <ICE9> apt-cache cdradao
[05:42] <ICE9> first
[05:42] <Tedd> Any idea, Absenth?
[05:42] <ICE9> to see what you need
[05:42] <ICE9> then apt-get install cdradao
[05:42] <JRlinux> To fix the boot menu so that I could still go to the OS that installing Ubuntu wiped out--  I added lines to ubuntu's menu.lst ... It worked.  Now that I am in that "other" linux, do I need to copy over the menu.lst from grup and replace the old one in this one to avoid the menu being written over by this linux?
[05:42] <Absenth> Tedd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10423&page=1
[05:42] <Gerrath> If you need to install the latest nvidia drivers from the nvidia site what is the best way to do it in Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Absenth> tedd, you might find some useful information there.
[05:42] <ICE9> go to the nvidia site
[05:42] <tritium> Gerrath, don't.  use the ubuntu packages
[05:42] <gfish> ICE9, ok thanks but dont i add sudo infront of them
[05:42] <ICE9> yes
[05:42] <blanky> !nvidia
[05:42] <JRlinux> from Ubuntu, I mean...
[05:42] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:42] <ICE9> if not in root
[05:42] <Absenth> Tedd,  sounds like you might need to re-download the ISO, and burn it again.
[05:43] <Gerrath> tritium, I don't believe the Ubuntu ones are the latest though.
[05:43] <blanky> Gerrath: frickin listen to ubotu
[05:43] <blanky> !nvidia
[05:43] <blanky> oh
[05:43] <blanky> what do you want then
[05:44] <tritium> Gerrath, the ones in breezy should be fairly recent, and they have the advantage of being under package management
[05:44] <blanky> anyone have an idea on how to disable system BEEP/ALARM
[05:44] <Absenth> blanky,  low tech solution is a wirecutter to the speaker lead :)
[05:44] <gfish> ICE9, with the first i get invalid
[05:44] <JRlinux> ICE9 OK, I will replace this menu.lst with the one from Ubuntu which I fixed... Or was that "yes" for me?
[05:44] <ice9> whats the nvidia site again
[05:45] <Tedd> Absenth: Thanks a lot, I'll try this out.
[05:45] <mjr> blanky, in X, xset -b
[05:45] <blanky> Absenth: if it was that I'd just pull it out :P
[05:45] <blanky> mjr: in x?
[05:45] <Astxist> blanky, System - Preferances - Sound
[05:45] <blanky> okay
[05:45] <Astxist> blanky, Goto the System Bell tab
[05:45] <Tedd> So all I have to do is select "format the drive" as the method.
[05:45] <Absenth> Tedd,  good luck.
[05:45] <Tedd> Thanks.
[05:45] <ubuntu> Hello?
[05:45] <ice9> nvidia link for ubuntu  ?
[05:45] <Taa5i> Any idea why I may be unable to umount /dev/md0 because device is busy?  fuser reports no attached processes, and I have no prompts to that wd
[05:45] <ice9> sorry
[05:45] <Tedd> Thanks for all your help, bud. Have a good one.
[05:45] <Gerrath> heres the deal, I have a motherboard that is new and I have spoken with an Nvidia developer who told me that the drivers will be released either the end of this month or the beginning of next and my board will be supported I just want to be prepared to install everything.
[05:45] <Astxist> blanky, should find what you're after there :)
[05:45] <daxxar> Taa5i, try lsof /dev/md0?
[05:45] <blanky> thanks!
[05:45] <blanky> that thing was about to make me go emo and cut myself
[05:46] <ICE9> what is the nvidia link again
[05:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell ICE9  about nvidia
[05:46] <ICE9> thank you
[05:46] <Taa5i> daxxar: No results from there, either.
[05:46] <daxxar> Hm.
[05:46] <Ophiocus> interesting fact, after a prolonged period using amule my box looses all connectivity, only rebooting can i use internet again,. any thoughs on that?
[05:46] <Plus-V-ducky> 'emo'?
[05:46] <Astxist> blanky, np just don't disable the sound server on the general tab or you'll be wondering why some aps don't have sound :)
[05:46] <daxxar> Tried lazy unmounting, then? (=
[05:46] <blanky> lol k
[05:46] <Gerrath> will the new nvidia drivers get put onto the back-ports when they are released or will I have to either install manually or wait for the next Ubuntu release?
[05:46] <Taa5i> daxxar: Beg pardon?
[05:47] <daxxar> Taa5i, -l. "Detach the filesystem from the filesystem hierarchy now, and cleanup all references to the filesystem as soon as it is not busy anymore.  (Requires kernel 2.4.11 or later.)"
[05:48] <daxxar> Plus-V-ducky, "emotional". :-)
[05:48] <Taa5i> daxxar: Thank you, that did it.
[05:48] <Taa5i> Wish I knew why it did things like that, though.
[05:48] <gfish> ice9, i have done it thanks
[05:48] <blanky> is there a program like spacemonger that tells me what apps are taking up the most space etc.
[05:49] <Plus-V-ducky> daxxar, you wouldn't want anyone to mistake you for human after all... heh
[05:49] <fletch33> if someone has a second i am having problems with freenx. if you could look at this at tell me what u think. htpp://pastebin.ca/30620
[05:49] <daxxar> Plus-V-ducky, I was just explaining the abbreviation, if you didn't know what it meant.
[05:49] <fletch33> i really need to get this working
[05:49] <Plus-V-ducky> daxxar, yep
[05:49] <daxxar> Unless you were trying to make a point out of someone using it to describe the act of being overly emotional.
[05:49] <fletch33> i have my client workiing but i cant figure out the server part
[05:49] <cocox> hi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: debe especificar el tipo de sistema de ficheros" can anybody help me plz ?
[05:50] <daxxar> xshu, I'm sorry? :)
[05:50] <daved> ok.. i have an onboard sound card on my mobo, and an sb live pci... i just disabled the onboard sound because i was having weirdness with it and want to only use the sb live.. after i did that, when i run aplay, i get the error seen here
[05:50] <daved> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4916
[05:50] <daved> how can i "reset" my alsa settings
[05:50] <Rawplayer> do
[05:51] <Plus-V-ducky> heh, daxxar my remark should have been directed at blanky
[05:51] <j813> Guys how can I check if my ISO download is OK, how to use the MD5SUMS? Am using Windows at this moment.
[05:51] <daxxar> Plus-V-ducky, that was what I assumed. :)
[05:52] <daxxar> j813, get the md5sums.exe from http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[05:52] <felbion> huhu
[05:53] <daxxar> j813, then drag'n'drop your iso-file onto the EXE, and compare the output with that which is from the FTP. :)
[05:53] <fletch33> ok well i will try back later i guess because i am lost and really really need this to work and i have searched every where else
[05:53] <blanky> Plus-V-ducky, wha't the program called
[05:53] <j813> daxxar thanks
[05:54] <Plus-V-ducky> Sorry, blanky.  I must've missed your original question.  Program to do what?
[05:54] <cocox> hi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: debe especificar el tipo de sistema de ficheros" can anybody help me plz ?
[05:54] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Q: pon dsl-provider works except if an application is idling the connection drops _just_ for that application. How can i make it stay up no matter the activity? (irc client doesnt disconnect as it is active) thanks
[05:55] <blanky> Plus-V-ducky, I thought you were talking to me. A program that tells you what apps/things take up how much space from your HD, like spacemonger
[05:55] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Q: pon dsl-provider works except if an application is idling the connection drops _just_ for that application. How can i make it stay up no matter the activity? (irc client doesnt disconnect as it is active) thanks
[05:55] <daxxar> K_Dallas, that could be your routers time-out of TCP-connections, if you have one?
[05:56] <K_Dallas> daxxar, with router i am all right
[05:56] <K_Dallas> this is directly into the modem
[05:56] <daxxar> Not sure then. It could be your ISP doing it?
[05:56] <K_Dallas> doesnt happen on windows and still other applications work fine if they are not idle
[05:56] <K_Dallas> the connection drops selectively
[05:57] <quantum> hi. i got a problem with my aureon and totem. just how do i get 5.1 audio from a shoutcast stream? the speaker-test works fine, but it seems that the center channel produces no audio when playing a stream? i got a aureon 5.1 fun card + zalman theatre 6 surround speakers. similar setup anyone?
[05:58] <quantum> i have selected 5.1 from totem preferences but still..
[05:59] <darkheart> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu, PHP and Pear?
[05:59] <grgcsmc> i have a question
[05:59] <grgcsmc> i just downloaded fceu from synaptic
[05:59] <grgcsmc> how do i open it?
[06:00] <cocox> hi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: you must specify the kind of system files" can anybody help me plz ?
[06:00] <quantum> grgcsmc if installed from synaptic, it should run from the command line panel item. or, usr/bin contains your executables
[06:01] <grgcsmc> so, if i just click on a rom, it should open?
[06:01] <quantum> wow you cant believe the audio quality i got =)
[06:02] <Hoxzer> doesn't fat32 partition support over 4GB files?
[06:02] <quantum> 5.1 sound from a zalman theatre 6 and aureon fun pci rocks at a low price..
[06:03] <cocox> how can i see in whish format is my floppy disk ??????
[06:03] <quantum> hoxzer you could think that the limit for the partition size would allow more
[06:03] <blizzkid> Hoxzer, no it doesn't
[06:03] <quantum> wrong.
[06:03] <Hoxzer> :D
[06:03] <GoodSoft> What package should I reconfigure to change list of available video modes for X server?
[06:03] <grgcsmc> how do i use x server?
[06:04] <maney> Okay, bug #10293 appears to describe the problem, so it's known; there's at least hope that Firefox will resolve it in time for Dapper, so it should get fixed eventually; but is there any way to make it work in Breezy?  (the prefiltering doesn't work unless I give up using the PPD that lets me easily print duplex, etc.)
[06:04] <Pegasos989> Hmmh. How can I turn on/off if I want my computer to response to ping or not?
[06:04] <BeachBuddha> Question - just d/l'd ubuntu live cd and burned it, but rebooting with it in the drive still brings me into my windowS instead.  Any help?
[06:04] <grgcsmc> get into bios
[06:04] <jbroome> BeachBuddha: check your BIOS to make sure it's set to boot off cd first
[06:04] <GoodSoft> What package should I reconfigure to change list of available video modes for X server?
[06:05] <grgcsmc> find the area where u can change the boot priority
[06:05] <BeachBuddha> I did that grg and jbroome
[06:05] <BeachBuddha> :)
[06:05] <BeachBuddha> no jou
[06:05] <iapx8088> maciao
[06:05] <BeachBuddha> joy even
[06:05] <grgcsmc> did u save settings?
[06:05] <BeachBuddha> f10'd outta there
[06:05] <blanky> what's the name of the glade editor, where you can draw out the windows and stuff
[06:05] <jbroome> you sure it's a good burn?
[06:05] <iapx8088> sorry. I have a breezy and I found out I have rsync out of the box. is that normal?
[06:05] <grgcsmc> did u burn the iso image?
[06:05] <blanky> k3b
[06:06] <Hoxzer> ISO Is big in finnish
[06:06] <iapx8088> I don't remember having it on hoary.
[06:06] <_jason> GoodSoft, xserver-xorg?
[06:06] <toresn> any problems running ubuntu along with winxp? Does ubuntu automatically create a boot menu (like FreeBSD does)?
[06:06] <BeachBuddha> it runs ok from the my computer window - shows me ubuntu and gaim n open office
[06:06] <blanky> what's the name of the glade thing, where ou can draw out the windows
[06:06] <GoodSoft> _jason, thx
[06:06] <grgcsmc> u could order a cd from ubuntu.com
[06:06] <iapx8088> bob2, have you got any hint about breezy being shipped with rsync
[06:06] <labandus> Hi men
[06:06] <BeachBuddha> oops grg no, burned the unzipped file
[06:06] <Hoxzer> toresn: it creates but when you have reinstalled XP after ubuntu install XP will take over the boot
[06:07] <labandus> how do you do??
[06:07] <Absenth> trappist, your site shows outlook operating on *nix,  is that using wine, xover office, or something else?  also which version of Outlook is it? 2000 or xp?
[06:07] <labandus> i 've got a little problem
[06:07] <maney> iapx8088: including rsync isn't unusual, nor new
[06:07] <grgcsmc> well, i only how to burn the iso image on ubuntu
[06:07] <BeachBuddha> let me try that n see what happens - ty grgcsmc
[06:07] <grgcsmc> so cant help u there
[06:07] <grgcsmc> srry
[06:07] <Pegasos989> BeachBuddha, some button from f8 to f12 (don't remember which one) lets you to choose from waht to boot. Tapping those in the booting phrase might fix it...
[06:07] <labandus> i have a file sharing under my Ubuntu OS , but
[06:07] <grgcsmc> why the heck wont limewire open!!!!
[06:08] <grgcsmc> arg
[06:08] <iapx8088> maney, may I disable it? Deinstalling would deinstall ubuntu-base too, so it's not an option.
[06:08] <BeachBuddha>  Thank You   Pegasos, let me see wht happens there too
[06:08] <grgcsmc> ah, im gonna restart
[06:08] <Absenth> grgcsmc,  do you have the Jre?
[06:08] <grgcsmc> oh.....
[06:08] <grgcsmc> no
[06:08] <Absenth> limewire requires java.
[06:08] <trappist> Absenth: crossover... I think it's xp but that shot is kinda old so I'm not sure
[06:08] <grgcsmc> i see
[06:08] <grgcsmc> thx
[06:08] <maney> iapx8088: I don't think it
[06:08] <Absenth> trappist, any chance you've sucessfully connected it to exchange from *nix?
[06:08] <labandus> i 've wanna know , whether i can another file Sharing Problem under ubuntu
[06:08] <labandus> can you please help
[06:09] <labandus> me
[06:09] <iapx8088> maney, you don't think is safe to disable?
[06:09] <trappist> Absenth: I connect to exchange with mutt :)
[06:09] <trappist> Absenth: never got it to work in outlook though
[06:09] <maney> iapx8088: I don't think it's enabled by default... checking
[06:09] <grgcsmc> lol
[06:09] <Absenth> trappist,  heh.  I'd be using Evolution, except Evo doesn't support Exchange 5.5 :(
[06:09] <grgcsmc> i searched for lava instaed of java
[06:09] <labandus> Please a little help here...
[06:10] <labandus> Please a little help here...
[06:10] <trappist> Absenth: kmail crashes when I try to do the exchange thing.  so far mutt's the only thing that works for me, and of course that's only email.
[06:10] <labandus> Please a little help here...
[06:10] <yahya> how do I set default paper size to a4 instead of letter
[06:10] <_jason> labandus, stop
[06:10] <Absenth> labandus spamming the channel isn't a good way to get help.
[06:10] <trappist> labandus: every time you say that I feel a little less like helping
[06:11] <iapx8088> ok maney let's see here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4919
[06:11] <labandus> i just want a little help
[06:11] <grgcsmc> heh, so i do have java
[06:11] <grgcsmc> gonna restart
[06:11] <cocox> hi im trying to mount my floppy doing this " sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and y get this message "mount: you must specify the kind of system files" can anybody help me plz ?
[06:11] <jbroome> labandus: ask the damn question
[06:11] <jbroome> !ask
[06:11] <labandus> _jason, is there a file sharing programm in Ubuntu??
[06:11] <iapx8088> cocox, it cannot recognize the disk filesystem. It's saying that
[06:12] <labandus> jbroome, , is there a file sharing programm in Ubuntu??
[06:12] <jbroome> labandus: what are you trying to share the file with?
[06:12] <iapx8088> labandus, there is plenty of. But spamming won't help you.
[06:12] <jbroome> another computer on your lan or a P2P sharing program?
[06:12] <maney> iapx8088: no, I didn't mean the package wasn't installed (I don't think that's new).  but it's not running, so what's the problem?
[06:12] <cocox> yea but how can i know in which filesystem is my disk ???
[06:12] <blizzkid> jbroome, I think he means p2p :-p
[06:12] <cocox> iapx8088: yea but how can i know in which filesystem is my disk ???
[06:12] <iapx8088> maney, it's running on my box, and I don't resemble having activating it.
[06:12] <labandus> jbroome,  it's not important ,, but i ve to got a new file sharing Program
[06:13] <iapx8088> cocox, mmh, I suppose that, if mount cannot recognize it automatically, your mileage may vary. Have you got any clue? maybe an unformmatted disk?
[06:13] <blizzkid> labandus: have you tried google?
[06:13] <jbroome> labandus: well if you're not going to tell us what kind of sharing you're looking to do, then no.  we can't help you
[06:13] <jbroome> labandus: or do an apt-cache seach share and see if any packages listed do what you want to do
[06:13] <maney> iapx8088: hmmm.  I don't recall having to turn it off, but this box was upgraded, not installed fresh.  two places: /etc/default/rsync, and /etc/inetd.conf
[06:14] <iapx8088> maney, so or I am definitely rooted, or maybe I actvivated and forgot.
[06:14] <labandus> i'wanna to sahre files with peers everywhere
[06:14] <blizzkid> labandus: have you tried google?
[06:14] <iapx8088> maney,  this is upgraded too.
[06:14] <labandus> blizzkid, google.??
[06:14] <jbroome> limewire, bittorrent, azureus, etc will do that
[06:14] <blizzkid> yes, google
[06:14] <Patrik> Is anyone here running Xfce4 ??
[06:14] <Absenth> google = the great oracle
[06:14] <iapx8088> maney, I suppose deinstalling those lsb, ubuntu-base and rsync wouldn't do any harm.
[06:14] <cocox> iapx8088: yea i know for format my disk i'm doing this "mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0" can u help me plz is this ok ??
[06:14] <Absenth> Patrik,  I am.
[06:15] <labandus> i just need a name of good Programm
[06:15] <Patrik> Absenth, have you gotten any icons on your desktop?
[06:15] <labandus> blizzkid, i don't to search on the Web
[06:15] <Pegasos989> :O Synaptic finds no packages for "skype" :/
[06:15] <Absenth> Patrik, nope, run everything from the right-click menu
[06:15] <jbroome> firefox is the name of a good program
[06:15] <blizzkid> labandus: google --> type in "ubuntu file sharing" and hit enter
[06:15] <Patrik> Absenth, any idea how i can get icons on my desktop?
[06:15] <iapx8088> Patrik, you wouldn't, at least you are to run the gnome filemaner or something like it to have them. Check ubuntu doc on Xfc4
[06:15] <blizzkid> and an entire new world will open up
[06:16] <cocox> iapx8088: because after that i try to mount it doing this "mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" and this give me the same message error... so im thinking that something is wrong with my format sintaxys
[06:16] <germancito> haha
[06:16] <labandus> blizzkid, ok
[06:16] <Seveas> !tell Pegasos989 about skype
[06:16] <mjk64> What server should I give "jigdo-lite" to download the Ubuntu install CD? It asks for a Debian mirror. Maybe that's because I used it for the Debian CD download. The default is http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/
[06:16] <Pegasos989> thanks Seveas
[06:16] <iapx8088> cocox, I believe too
[06:16] <bl3ssing> hello
[06:16] <bl3ssing> how can I install my flash files ...?
[06:16] <maney> iapx8088: dunno.  neither of the upgraded breezy boxes I have handy seem to be listening for rsync.  is there any other reason to think the box is compromised?
[06:16] <Patrik> iapx8088, ubuntu forums or ubuntu guide?
[06:16] <Norgus> hello people
[06:17] <bl3ssing> I want to install some plugin for flash
[06:17] <Seveas> !tell bl3ssing about flash
[06:17] <iapx8088> Patrik, guide. About oldsystem I believe
[06:17] <cocox> iapx8088, im still getting the same error with many floppys they r allright
[06:17] <Norgus> I have a severe raphical isue on ubuntu, see: http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6718/screenshotvnclibvncserver0vw.png
[06:17] <iapx8088> cocox, try mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0 1440
[06:17] <Norgus> graphical, sorry
[06:17] <iapx8088> mmh not vfat
[06:17] <iapx8088> sorry
[06:17] <cocox> iapx8088 what means 1440
[06:17] <jbroome> disk size
[06:17] <jbroome> i think
[06:17] <cocox> ok thnx :)
[06:17] <iapx8088> anyway, it's not for ext2
[06:17] <Absenth> blizzkid,  some combination of too much spoon feeding as children, and too low of an iq to form an intelligent search string I think.
[06:17] <Norgus> can anyone tell me a fix if the gfx are screwed halfway like in my screenshot?
[06:18] <blizzkid> cocox, 1440 kb
[06:18] <iapx8088> mmh I wonder where Nvidia will relase that go**** 1.8 video driver. If I put my lcd monitor off, I would not come on.
[06:18] <blizzkid> Absenth, I guess. I've been googling for two weeks, 5 hours a day to find a way to solve my problem before I came here, and still have no solution
[06:18] <mipe> Hello.How Shall I install kernel for 686
[06:18] <iapx8088> it seems a video driver issue.
[06:19] <iapx8088> gotta do a ctrl alt f1 and ctrl alt f7
[06:19] <cocox> iapx8088, that command gives me this error root@techi:/home/cocox # sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0 1440
[06:19] <cocox> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[06:19] <cocox> mkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing reserved sector
[06:19] <_jason> Seveas, does installing just flashplugin-nonfree enable flash in firefox?  I had someone here earlier who couldn't get it to work until he installed the flashplayer-mozilla package.  I'm asking because the wiki says to just install the flashplugin-nonfree package.
[06:19] <pinpoint> how do i update my ubuntu
[06:19] <Absenth> cd-roms mount much easier when you put a friggin cd-rom in the drive.
[06:19] <iapx8088> cocox, did you tried the wonderful floppy formatter in system tools?
[06:20] <Norgus> anyone? my monitor just goes out of range if I switch to f1 through f6
[06:20] <iapx8088> mmhmh
[06:20] <mjk64> Absenth: =)
[06:20] <_jason> pinpoint, are you updating to breezy?
[06:20] <Norgus> and the x server looks really messed up http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6718/screenshotvnclibvncserver0vw.png
[06:20] <jbroome> Absenth: I have heard that. :)
[06:20] <pinpoint> no just linux-image-386
[06:20] <cocox> iapx8088 yeah but i need to make this by scripts for some homework.... :(
[06:20] <Absenth> today I'm suffering from a serious case of PEBCAK
[06:20] <pinpoint> and restricted-modules
[06:20] <pinpoint> it gives me an error
[06:20] <iapx8088> cocox, I see.
[06:20] <Patrik> iapx8088, Colud you please send me a link to that? (xfce files on desktop thingie), cant find it.
[06:20] <jbroome> Absenth: the only cure for that is beer
[06:21] <cocox> lol
[06:21] <Absenth> jbroome,  that's not a bad Idea.  I may have to pick up bottle or three of chimay on the way home.
[06:21] <gfish> i have another hdd and its formatted to ntfs how do i see it in linux
[06:21] <wdh> Absenth, that doesn't sound like a bad idea at all :)
[06:22] <Norgus> has nobody else had a graphical error like mine?
[06:22] <jbroome> Absenth: excellent idea.  i need to go by the liquor store before it closes for thanksgiving
[06:23] <Absenth> I feel dirty now.
[06:23] <mjk64> How do I download the Install CD using jigdo? I can find *no* information about that on either help.ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org. :-(
[06:23] <Absenth> installing outlook 2000 on my pristine ubuntu box.
[06:23] <iapx8088> Patrik, nor can I.
[06:23] <Norgus> my device is an S3 card
[06:23] <PabloEscobar_> mjk64-> try the torrent
[06:23] <iapx8088> Patrik, try on the wiki
[06:23] <Xenguy> Absenth: wine?
[06:24] <mjk64> PabloEscobar_: Can't do that (no client for that and cannot install one currently)
[06:24] <Absenth> Xenguy,  xover, but yeah, basically
[06:24] <Patrik> iapx8088, too bad, thx anyways, ill keep looking then :D
[06:24] <Norgus> my driver is 's3virge', is there a more generic driver I can try?
[06:24] <Norgus> because this one is very broken
[06:24] <pinpoint> how do i upgrade linux-image-386?
[06:26] <gfish> how do i see my ntfs hdd
[06:26] <theconartist> you dont
[06:26] <trappist> yes he does
[06:26] <jono> yo
[06:26] <theconartist> :p
[06:27] <theconartist> gfish, do you have the NTFS kernel module
[06:27] <Absenth> Xenguy,  for my next trick, I'll be installing Tar for windows as my backup solution here in the office :)
[06:27] <ethan_> can someone help me? totem and mplayer both close seconds after opening
[06:27] <trappist> theconartist: which ships with ubuntu
[06:27] <blanky> hello
[06:27] <rmn30> is anyone experiencing bugs with reiserfs in breezy?
[06:28] <Norgus> so nobody knows the problem I have here? http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6718/screenshotvnclibvncserver0vw.png
[06:28] <Norgus> what kind of bugs rmn30 ? Im using reiserfs
[06:28] <gfish> theconartist, i dont think so
[06:28] <rmn30> ls hangs - according to dmesg something is going wrong inside kernel
[06:29] <yrjo> install totem and mplayer with automatix
[06:29] <rmn30> i can show dmesg output if you like
[06:29] <trappist> rmn30: pastebin if it's more than a line or two
[06:30] <Bailey> hi, i want to patch a kernel, but there is nothing in /usr/src?
[06:30] <trappist> Bailey: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[06:30] <rmn30> yeah, not that familiar with irc - how do i do that?
[06:30] <ethan_>  what's automatix?
[06:30] <trappist> rmn30: the url is in the topic
[06:30] <rmn30> ah
[06:30] <Bailey> trappist, but how can i find my kernel tree?
[06:30] <theconartist> gfish, nvm i think its with the default ubuntu kernel
[06:30] <yrjo> you can get it from Ubuntu Forum with search
[06:31] <trappist> Bailey: in /usr/src once you install that
[06:31] <ethan_> thanks, i'll try that
[06:31] <trappist> theconartist: it is.
[06:31] <gfish> theconartist, ok what do i do then
[06:31] <ethan_> should i remove the packages first?
[06:31] <theconartist> gfish, add it to fstab
[06:31] <gfish> theconartist, how do i do that
[06:31] <Bailey> but shouldnt i already have sources if its working already?
[06:31] <randy> Hey all.
[06:32] <theconartist> Bailey, use your head?
[06:32] <Absenth> alright, I'll see everyone later.  have a good afternoon.
[06:32] <Bailey> trappist, i dont know much about kernel and their install
[06:32] <j813> bye guys
[06:32] <Bailey> but i want to learn
[06:33] <randy> Does Dapper contain a Pre-release of Gnome 2.14 ?
[06:33] <rmn30> k
[06:33] <rmn30> dmesg is in the bin under rmn30
[06:34] <Bailey> so /usr/src is always empty, except when you want to upgrade, you need to get the sources and the patch, after it will be empty again^
[06:34] <sm> hey all.. what's that command to find which process is holding on to a file ?
[06:34] <rmn30> sm: lsof | grep <filename>
[06:34] <sm> thx!
[06:35] <gfish> could i format my ntfs partitions to fat cos i dont use windoze now
[06:35] <rmn30> strange thing is i have another reiserfs partition (/home) which seems fine
[06:36] <Bailey> trappsit can I patch my current kernel without downloading sources?
[06:36] <swistak> hello, i havre a question, i have two windows partitions, ntfs and fat32
[06:36] <Bailey> trappist can I patch my current kernel without downloading sources?
[06:36] <swistak> i mount both, ntfs ro , and fat32, rw
[06:36] <swistak> ntfs show long filenames, but fat32 not
[06:36] <swistak> anyone know why?
[06:37] <obsvuugj> I have pure-ftpd and I want that it asks an user und the pass when you want to go in the server... how do I do that ?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> swistak,  you may be using the wrong fileystem in your fstab.
[06:37] <Nanook> hi, can anyone help. I need to dual boot with a Windows installation, how can I do that? I have the Live & Install discs for 5.10, this is my first experience with Linux so please go easy on me :)
[06:38] <swistak> Dr_Willis well i use msdos
[06:38] <Tedd> Well.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Nanook,  the normal install sets up the GRUB boot loader so you can dual boot.
[06:38] <Tedd> Damn.
[06:38] <swistak> tried fat32 but it says there is no such option :] 
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> swistak,  thats your problem then. use 'vfat'
[06:38] <Tedd> This is the third time I've been here for those of you who remember meh.
[06:38] <swistak> Dr_Willis thnx
[06:38] <Tedd> The infamous Deboostrap error roblem.
[06:39] <Tedd> Problem.
[06:39] <Nanook> Dr Willis, so if I load the insall disk it should walk me through it? Thanks
[06:39] <sm> also, anyone out there using shfs ? is there something better I should be using ? if not, how do I force shfs to unmount when it doesn't want to ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> swistak,  :P 'man mount' - has details.
[06:39] <gfish> how do i mount my ntfs hdd
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Nanook,  you may want to defrag/scandisk your windows partition first. and JUST in case backup anything imporntant.
[06:39] <rmn30> sm if you install konqueror you can use the fish:// ioslave
[06:39] <Tedd> Can anybody help me?
[06:39] <Tedd> Please?
[06:39] <sm> I need something at fs level, for emacs etc
[06:40] <Tedd> I mean it's my third time here and I'm getting this Debootstrap eror. I looked at the forums (thanks to Absenth) to no avail.
[06:40] <sm> I am liking shfs very much.. I want to do the same with ftp
[06:40] <Tedd> Well, not paticularly to no avail- ther ewas something about using 'format' as an option, I didn't understand it at all, can somebody explain it to me?
[06:40] <Nanook> Thank you for your help. I have no doubt I will be in here lots getting help, so I appologise now! Thank you again, have a good day
[06:40] <rmn30> yeah shfs is quite cool - don't know about umounting though
[06:41] <Tedd> Please, I'm getting desperate; can't somebody help me out here?
[06:41] <rmn30> perhaps there is a fuse (fs in user space) app to do it?
[06:42] <Tedd> AUGH.
[06:42] <Tedd> What does this damned error mean? And how can I fix it?
[06:42] <Tedd> "Debootstrap error", somebody must know.
[06:42] <rmn30> sm: http://wiki.thiesen.org/page/Fuseftp
[06:42] <Tedd> And what does 'using format as the option' mean
[06:43] <Tedd> Someone, please help me...
[06:43] <K_Dallas> Q: how do i install realplayer or at least somethign to play realradios? thanks (synaptic tried to insatall realplayer but it was jammed at the window where it asked me where i had downloaded realplpayer rpm )
[06:43] <moccah> !sqlplus
[06:43] <ubotu> moccah: I give up, what is it?
[06:44] <moccah> anyone know where to get sqlplus on linux..
[06:44] <Tedd> !debootstrap
[06:44] <Tedd> :X
[06:44] <blanky> is anyone here experienced in linux programming
[06:44] <rmn30> K_Dallas use plf repositories:http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf (not ubuntu supported)
[06:44] <blanky> it'sjust command line and network stuff
[06:44] <K_Dallas> rmn30, thanks a lot appreciate it
[06:44] <Tedd> Goddamn. Someone must know about the debootstrap
[06:44] <moccah> Downloaded a pkg from oracle`s website... but i dont have the libsqlplus.so
[06:44] <rmn30> no prob
[06:44] <bluefoxicy> Length: 4,487,062 (4.3M) [audio/mpeg] 
[06:44] <bluefoxicy> 52% [[06:44] <bluefoxicy> 12:38:43 (222.98 KB/s) - `Chrono_Trigger_MemoriesfromtheWindScene_OC_ReMix.mp3' saved [4487062/4487062] 
[06:44] <Tedd> rm30, any idea?
[06:44] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone see something wrong here?
[06:44] <Tedd> About debootstrap?
[06:45] <Tedd> Yeah
[06:45] <Tedd> You're listening to Chrono Trigger's soundtrack :P
[06:45] <Tedd> Good game, but that's not what I'm here for.
[06:45] <germancito> hahahaa
[06:45] <rmn30> so anyone got any idea about reiserfs bugs?
[06:45] <bluefoxicy> Tedd:  more pertainently, WGET found that the file was 52% done, when it was fully downloaded.
[06:45] <Tedd> rmn30 do you know anything about this Debootstrap error
[06:46] <ebelt9hf> hi!
[06:46] <rmn30> tedd what exactly is the problem?
[06:46] <Tedd> Well
[06:46] <Tedd> I get this error instlaling
[06:46] <Tedd> "Debootstrap failed something or other"
[06:46] <Tedd> It's infamous on the forums
[06:46] <Tedd> There was one solution but I didn't understand it; maybe you can explain it to me
[06:47] <Tedd> Something about using "format as the method"; Ubuntu wants to format for itself even if it already is
[06:47] <rmn30> can you point me to the page?
[06:47] <Tedd> Absenth gave me the link; I don't think I can dig it up but I can point you to one
[06:47] <Tedd> Hold on
[06:48] <rmn30> are you installing along side windows or what?
[06:48] <Tedd> Stand-alone.
[06:48] <Tedd> I erased the entire thing.
[06:48] <fre4k> anyone free ... im facing a problem with my nvidia drivers install
[06:48] <rmn30> hmmm
[06:49] <Tedd> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10423&highlight=debootstrap
[06:49] <Tedd> RMN30, there you go
[06:49] <Tedd> That's the one
[06:49] <gfish> how do i mount second hdd
[06:49] <gfish> its ntfs ] 
[06:50] <patrick_> hallo?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[06:51] <DeadZed> I cannot get any normal screen resolution above 640x320 ... Xorg.O.log is at http://pastebin.ca/30632
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> doh. no bot. :(
[06:51] <patrick_> Willie Szollmann
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> there he is.. gfish  type '!ntfs' and the bot will tell ya.
[06:51] <gfish> !ntfs
[06:51] <patrick_> Hallo an Alle! Wei hier jemand wie man bei ubuntu die Schrift schrfer stellen kann?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> DeadZed,  what video card anyway?
[06:52] <cyphase> whatare the differences between a 'server install with the normal ubuntu image and the specialized server installation?
[06:52] <rmn30> tedd what have you tried so far?
[06:52] <K_Dallas> #ubuntu-de ?
[06:52] <alxoso> hi every one
[06:52] <cyphase> what are*
[06:52] <grout> how do install the .deb files i get from the ubuntu package search in firefox?
[06:52] <K_Dallas> grout, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[06:52] <grout> i tried dpkg -i and i got errors
[06:52] <alxoso> use dpkg -i *.deb
[06:52] <K_Dallas> like what kind of error?
[06:52] <Tedd> rmn30: any idea what the hell that means?
[06:52] <cyphase> grout, you need to use sudo too
[06:53] <DeadZed> Dr_Willis nvidia geforce 4 if Im correct
[06:53] <Tedd> And how to do it?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> its best to use synaptic and let handle all the dependencies.
[06:53] <grout> Unpacking replacement freeciv ...
[06:53] <grout> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of freeciv:
[06:53] <grout>  freeciv depends on freeciv-client; however:
[06:53] <grout>   Package freeciv-client is not installed.
[06:53] <grout>  freeciv depends on freeciv-server; however:
[06:53] <grout>   Package freeciv-server is not installed.
[06:53] <grout> dpkg: error processing freeciv (--install):
[06:53] <grout>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:53] <cyphase> sudo dpgk -i *.deb
[06:53] <grout> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:53] <cyphase> ah
[06:53] <grout>  freeciv
[06:53] <K_Dallas> grout, read the topic!
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> DeadZed,  install the nvidia drivers. as mentioned in the 'binary driver wiki' :P type ' !nvidia ' for info from the bot.
[06:53] <gfish> Dr_Willis, couldnt i just format the ntfs to fat
[06:53] <grout> k sorry
[06:53] <alxoso> do you need install first all the depends
[06:54] <rmn30> hmm not sure - but that thread seems pretty old
[06:54] <DeadZed> Dr_Willis I did install nvidia ... nvidia screen comes up when ubuntu boots
[06:54] <rmn30> if it were a bug it probably would have been fixed by release of breezy in october
[06:54] <Tedd> Hmmmmm
[06:54] <DeadZed> Dr_Willis I will try corgconfig
[06:54] <Tedd> So, what
[06:54] <Sionide> hmm
[06:55] <Tedd> SHould I just give up?
[06:55] <Sionide> just trying to resize my partitions, got this far;
[06:55] <rmn30> what kind of system is it?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> DeadZed,  could be your monitor settings are incorrect.
[06:55] <cyphase> What's the difference between a 'server' install with the normal ubuntu image and the specialized server installation image?
[06:55] <Tedd> Dell.
[06:55] <Sionide> http://www.sionide.net/gallery/albums/pics/Screenshot_008.png
[06:55] <Tedd> P4.
[06:55] <Sionide> how can i make my fat32 partition bigger?
[06:55] <fre4k> !nvidia
[06:55] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:55] <DeadZed> Dr_Willis well , I did edit them manually .. but I'll see how it goes
[06:55] <Sionide> i need more space in windows (unfortunately)
[06:56] <rmn30> this is not really a solution, but do other distros have the same problem?
[06:56] <Tedd> This is my first time installing any variation of linux
[06:56] <rmn30> sorry its been so frustrating!
[06:57] <Sionide> i'm in ubuntu live cd to make it easier to resize partitions but i still can't do it
[06:57] <Tedd> So I gues it's hopeless then huh
[06:57] <rmn30> this is probably a trecherous thing to say but I would recommend trying another distro e.g. suse
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Sionide,  a live cd with qt_parted or gparted - should be able to do it. If you know how to use the tools.
[06:57] <Sionide> http://www.sionide.net/gallery/albums/pics/Screenshot_008.png
[06:57] <Tedd> I doubt SUSE is as user-friendly as Ubuntu
[06:58] <Sionide> that's what i've got Dr_Willis - it's not letting make the fat32 bit any bigger for some reason
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Sionide,  you do have free space on either side of the partition?
[06:58] <rmn30> i've not used it in a while but i used it for a while and found it very good
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> ive never even heard of the Debootstrap failed    'problem' :()
[06:59] <Sionide> Dr_Willis: no i dunno how to make it put free space before the ext3 part because it won't let me
[06:59] <grout> so i have to install each depends seperatly?
[06:59] <rmn30> just as easy on the whole and there is a graphical installer which might be easier..
[06:59] <Tedd> Dr_Willis: It's a abitch
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Sionide,  resize the partions to either side of it first.
[07:00] <Sionide> Dr_Willis: fat32 is the start of the drive, so i need to make free space *before* the ext3 yes, which is 2nd. to enlarge the fat32 but it's greyed out, i can't make the ext3 smaller that way
[07:00] <Tedd> rmn30: what do you mean by 'graphical installer'
[07:00] <rmn30> i mean it boots up with a nice gui and a mouse!
[07:00] <Tedd> Zomg!
[07:00] <Tedd> Hmm
[07:00] <Tedd> How big is it
[07:00] <Tedd> Filewise
[07:00] <Tedd> I tsill have to burn it to a CD hmmmm
[07:00] <Tedd> Which means  have to format to Windows before I can do anything :|
[07:01] <christos> hello i m trying to install real player. i downloaded a .bin from real.com/linux but i get GLIBCPP_3.2 CXXABI_1.2 not found
[07:01] <Tedd> Hmm
[07:01] <Tedd> Is the regular Debian nice?
[07:02] <Tedd> Closer to ubuntu than SUSE is anyway
[07:02] <sm> rmn30: thx! I found lufs packages, trying that first
[07:02] <rmn30> i'd say debian is better for more experience users
[07:02] <rmn30> suse is aimed at linux newbs too
[07:02] <Tedd> Basically I'm fucked :|
[07:02] <theconartist> not really
[07:02] <Tedd> I was REALLY lookin' forward to Ubuntu
[07:03] <theconartist> why cant you install ubntu
[07:03] <Tedd> theconartist: How so?
[07:03] <Tedd> Debootstrap failed
[07:03] <linux-newbie-s> hi where can i isntall ubuntu
[07:03] <grout> once i get something installed with dpkg -i how do i run it?
[07:03] <blanky> linux-newbie-s, you dont install ubuntu in windows
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> linux-newbie-s,  Care to rephrase that?
[07:03] <_jason> grout, what did you install
[07:03] <Tedd> theconartist: heard of it? Any ideas?
[07:04] <grout> freeciv
[07:04] <linux-newbie-s> hi where can i isntall ubuntu where can i download it
[07:04] <theconartist> TecnoVM64, google
[07:04] <theconartist> grout, should be in your games menu
[07:04] <Tedd> What?
[07:04] <cocox> help plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!
[07:04] <blanky> linux-newbie-s, first, get Partition Magic and resize your harddirve NTFS partition, then, put the disc in when you restart
[07:04] <theconartist> Tedd, google
[07:04] <grout> thanks
[07:04] <linux-newbie-s> i have allready  done that
[07:04] <Tedd> Why google
[07:04] <christos> hello i m trying to install real player. i downloaded a .bin from real.com/linux but i get GLIBCPP_3.2 CXXABI_1.2 not found
[07:04] <linux-newbie-s> where are the dics to download and bunr them
[07:04] <theconartist> chrisb, then get those
[07:05] <theconartist> damnit
[07:05] <theconartist> so many people
[07:05] <theconartist> christos, get those
[07:05] <ghd> asdf
[07:05] <nalioth> linux-newbie-s: www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:05] <linux-newbie-s> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[07:05] <christos> i made a search for those in Synaptic but nothing showd up, any idea where they might be?
[07:06] <linux-newbie-s> is this the link i am doing 20000kb/s 3 min left
[07:06] <Tedd> Nothing in Google, dude
[07:07] <nalioth> linux-newbie-s: that link is fine (unless you are installing on a powermac)
[07:07] <linux-newbie-s> i have amd athlon 1.8ghz 256ddram 80gb
[07:07] <rmn30> tedd does the live cd boot?
[07:07] <Tedd> Didn't get the live CD
[07:08] <Tedd> Ripped it
[07:08] <Tedd> Burned it
[07:08] <TokenBad> I installed the ftpd server..where is the conf file for it put?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> - /etc/ftp/ or similer - would be my guess
[07:08] <rmn30> have you verified that the cd is ok?
[07:09] <linux-newbie-s> are there any docs how to isntall ubuntu
[07:09] <SogniX> got a stupid question... how can I add an IP to the NIC from the command line (server install)?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> linux-newbie-s,  tons of them
[07:09] <Pegasos989> linux-newbie-s, propably, but you can't fail it. you simply can't
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> linux-newbie-s,  see the topic and ubuntu wiki/homepage for them
[07:10] <Pegasos989> Only thing that can go wrong in installing ubuntu is partitioning. And if you are really poor, you may even choose foreign language installation
[07:10] <Pegasos989> ;)
[07:10] <quantum> i have problems with running cube on ubuntu
[07:10] <Tedd> Not true.
[07:10] <quantum> someone managed to do this?
[07:10] <cocox> help plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!
[07:10] <Tedd> Pegasos989: Absolutely not true. I have no idea how to fix the debootstrap error
[07:10] <Tedd> If you do, please by all means
[07:10] <Tedd> Tell me
[07:11] <quantum> if i chmod something to +eXe do i need to specify a user always?
[07:11] <Pegasos989> Hmmh. Never had that kind of problem. But where exactly can you go wrong in installing ubuntu? It only asks the partitions and the keyboard layout if I remember correctly?
[07:12] <Tedd> Hmm
[07:12] <Tedd> Maybe I'll try an older version of ubuntu
[07:12] <rmn30> worth a try tedd
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> well if you dont read carefully - :P ya can accidnetly take the WHOLE hard drive.. and whipe out some sutff you may of wanted to save.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Lol
[07:12] <Pegasos989> Dr_Willis, yeah, I counted that as the partitioning part
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> but thtas a 'user' error issue. :P
[07:13] <rmn30> you should also check the iso after you download it and the cd after you burn it
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> oops.. I ment hdb! Doh!
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:13] <sorush20> why can't I open cab files on the file roller or ark?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> does the Installer have a "check the cd/md5" feature yet?
[07:13] <rmn30> dunno
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> seen that on a few distros. tohought it was handy.
[07:13] <Pegasos989> It can check the integrity of cd
[07:13] <sorush20> do I need the debian configuration in my system menu in KDE
[07:14] <sorush20> ?
[07:14] <rmn30> yeah - seems like it might be of value in tedd's case
[07:14] <Tedd> rmn30: Where can I FIND older versions?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> I noticed that in k3b the othe day - it can check/compare the md5's also.
[07:14] <Tedd> I have checked the integrity. I'll check again once I go downstairs.
[07:14] <nalioth> sorush20: install cabextract
[07:14] <Tedd> So.
[07:15] <Tedd> I guess I'll go downstairs and format to windows
[07:15] <rmn30> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/
[07:15] <ke> How do I fix this? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4922
[07:16] <Tedd> rmn30: what's that
[07:16] <rmn30> the older version of ubuntu
[07:16] <Tedd> Hmmm
[07:16] <Tedd> OK
[07:16] <Tedd> Actally
[07:16] <Tedd> rmn30
[07:16] <Tedd> I'm gonna try to use the live CD
[07:17] <Tedd> Instead of the Instlal
[07:17] <Tedd> Think that might variate the outcome?
[07:17] <rmn30> well it will at least let you know that linux is capable of working with your system
[07:17] <rmn30> did you check the md5 of the iso download?
[07:18] <Tedd> Wha?
[07:18] <Tedd> What does that mean
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:18] <rmn30> do you have the iso that you downloaded still? what system are you using now?
[07:18] <Tedd> Right now I'm on an upstairs computer
[07:18] <IcemanV9> ke: install build-essential? did ya?
[07:19] <Tedd> I left MY computer on the Ubuntu install
[07:19] <Pegasos989> Hmm. Btw, are you sure you downloaded the right version? I mean that there are diffrent cd images for dffrent processors, right?
[07:19] <darkheart> When I try to view a php page on localhost through a web browser, it tries to download the file. Where can I fix this?
[07:19] <cocox> help plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!
[07:19] <Tedd> Pegasos989: Me?
[07:19] <Pegasos989> yea
[07:19] <IRCMonkey999> hi, sorry to ask this question again.... how do i download and install VLC media player on ubuntu?
[07:19] <ke> IcemanV9, yup.. Just found out I had to install libglib2.0-dev - it works now :)
[07:19] <Tedd> Well I'll try another mirror I guess
[07:19] <Tedd> I'll mess around with it
[07:19] <Tedd> later
[07:19] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: after i rebooted, i'm able to open up all system administration menu's :)
[07:19] <IcemanV9> ke: cool. :)
[07:20] <grout> i installed a game put it didnt get out in my games menu, how can i find where i got put?
[07:20] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999: wow!
[07:20] <Pegasos989> IRCMonkey999, I think that synaptic package manager might find something if you search with vlc
[07:20] <quantum> anyone know how to run a shoutcast stream as a 5.1 stream?
[07:20] <quantum> i have no idea..
[07:21] <IRCMonkey999> Pegasos989: no :(
[07:21] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999: open synaptic from that menu
[07:21] <quantum> i mean as 5.1 audio. totem does not give true 5.1 even if selected from prefs
[07:21] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: yes... opened up
[07:21] <quantum> the center channel has nothing on it, rear and front give everything
[07:21] <IRCMonkey999> i see some packages but no vlc yet...
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> grout,  check the 'synaptic' tool and see what files that game installed. proberly in /usr/games or /usr/local/games
[07:21] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999: find menu for repositories
[07:21] <linux-newbie-s> is it hard to install ubuntu or its the same way as red hat, suse etc
[07:21] <m_akys> hello
[07:21] <quantum> grout usr/games
[07:21] <Pegasos989> IRCMonkey999, let me rephrase. My synaptic found a packet called vlc ;D
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> linux-newbie-s,  very easy.
[07:22] <z3r0x> !file kinternet
[07:22] <searcher`> quantum: the best you can do from a stereo signal is divide the stereo signal over the 6 speakers you have
[07:22] <indigirl1> Pegasos989: im gonna tell him how to add the apropriate repos
[07:22] <linux-newbie-s> does it have kde gnome
[07:22] <Pegasos989> indigirl1, ah, okay
[07:22] <blanky> linux-newbie-s, you still asking about that...rofl
[07:22] <dducko> !info vlc
[07:22] <sorush20> how do I command the cab extract..
[07:22] <sorush20> ?
[07:22] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[07:22] <searcher`> quantum: if you want true 5.1 get either an ac3 file or DVD
[07:22] <quantum> searcher and how would i do that with a surround headset? my aureon card's center channel is dead
[07:22] <blanky> linux-newbie-s, almost every distro has kde/gnome, plus more
[07:22] <linux-newbie-s> yes i do i am newbie
[07:22] <K_Dallas> Q: how do i set the udm mode for my DVD and CD drive on the boot up? do i have to add it to my profile or it could be done better? thanks
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> linux-newbie-s,   yes and yes.. and it may be time to read the ubuntu website some...
[07:22] <m_akys> I need help. I'm new spanish ubuntu user. I just installed ubuntu but I can't execute any admin application
[07:22] <searcher`> quantum: did you check the volume levels?
[07:22] <quantum> searcher oh i see so the stream is lacking 6 channels?
[07:22] <blanky> linux-newbie-s, if you wanna talk to me in private I'll help ya, type /query blanky
[07:22] <blanky> and then type something
[07:22] <linux-newbie-s> i hate readin books i never read harry potter sorry
[07:23] <quantum> searcher i have gone through my alsa setup, and it does practically nothing.
[07:23] <blanky> haha, harry pot-er
[07:23] <searcher`> quantum: did you try alsamixer?
[07:23] <IRCMonkey999> indigirl1: i am on the graphics menu.... it doesnt have vlc
[07:23] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999: so you add the community universe repository
[07:23] <darkheart> !tell m_akys about es
[07:23] <quantum> searcher' i have that installed. it runs from the command line tool right?
[07:23] <sorush20> why can't I restart the hotplug system it just hangs? can somone help
[07:23] <darkheart> m_akys maybe you can speak easier there =)
[07:23] <searcher`> quantum: yep
[07:23] <indigirl1> !repositories
[07:23] <ubotu> [repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[07:23] <searcher`> for me it has some options gnome doesn't have
[07:23] <IcemanV9> sorush20: sudo atitude install msttcorefonts
[07:23] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999: read that link
[07:24] <indigirl1> IRCMonkey999: from obotu
[07:24] <IRCMonkey999> ok.... thank you indigirl1
[07:24] <White-Wolf> i require Ubuntu Help who can help me?
[07:24] <m_akys> darkheart, sorry for my english :)
[07:24] <simonvallore> Hello how do i get ncurses on ubuntu what library do i need to download
[07:24] <quantum> somehow all this hacking feels like my first year with a _computa_
[07:24] <searcher`> quantum: sometimes you just need to tinker a bit to get it working, for instance i have to disable one option to get sound from the center speaker
[07:24] <bl3ssing> I have downloaded my install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[07:24] <Stormx2> hi everybody!
[07:24] <bl3ssing>  file? how can I uncompress it ...?
[07:24] <IcemanV9> White-Wolf: state your problem plse :)
[07:24] <indigirl1> !ncurses
[07:24] <ubotu> indigirl1: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:25] <searcher`> quantum: should have bought an Apple then ;-)
[07:25] <simonvallore> !ncurses
[07:25] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, simonvallore
[07:25] <darkheart> m_akys No problem =) your english is not bad.
[07:25] <m_akys> thanks drakheart, I'll try there
[07:25] <quantum> searcher yeah if i recall i once got it running by using a switch to make the center come from my mic line and the rear from my line in. and i even got another device boom from my center line .. if i just remembered how
[07:25] <darkheart> m_akys ok =)
[07:25] <White-Wolf> Start X wont Initialize when i startup i go straight into shell
[07:25] <quantum> searcher right now it doesnt work like that
[07:26] <searcher`> quantum: well just try to fiddle around with the options a bit, shouldn't be too hard to figure out
[07:26] <linux-newbie-s> u said u help me now you are quit
[07:26] <quantum> searcher what's an apple? do you eat them =)
[07:26] <quantum> searcher it seems like fiddling more :)
[07:27] <bl3ssing> how can I get in the kubuntu channel?
[07:27] <White-Wolf> Start X wont Initialize when I startup, it goes straight into shell - Can you help?
[07:28] <_jason> !kubuntu
[07:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:28] <yh> heh, ubotu
[07:28] <quantum> i found kubuntu unpleasing since my desktop crashed at 3 minutes :(
[07:29] <Pegasos989> :(
[07:29] <z3r0x> hi, how can I mount a device as a normal user? I tried it with sudo but I cant access after mounting with a normal users
[07:29] <quantum> hey searcher try out this: speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6
[07:29] <Gkane> z3r0x, chown/mod
[07:30] <quantum> really a hack that's useful
[07:30] <blanky> in linux, what are the .lib files, I compiled a library but I dont know which are the libraries
[07:30] <Pegasos989> Btw... How do I get out of MAN pages? I fear to use them cause always when I am in terminal and type man <some command here> it opens then man page, but I dunno how to get back so I always need to close terminal and start new one :'(
[07:30] <darkheart> Gkane You don't really chmod things you mount..you should just mount them w/ diff. permissions.
[07:30] <Gkane> ok :)
[07:30] <darkheart> Gkane ;)
[07:30] <ravensa> just press q
[07:31] <ravensa> for like ...quit
[07:31] <Pegasos989> ravensa, that is so crazy that it might actually work! thanks
[07:31] <TokenBad> is inetd used on ubuntu by default?
[07:31] <ravensa> no prob
[07:31] <ubuntu> hallo
[07:31] <ccv> hey
[07:31] <ubuntu> what is
[07:31] <ravensa> hallo back at you
[07:32] <ubuntu> what
[07:32] <ubuntu> fsda
[07:32] <ubuntu> sadf
[07:32] <ubuntu> sadf
[07:32] <Pegasos989> ...
[07:32] <White-Wolf> hey guys - = {Start X wont Initialize when I startup, it goes straight into shell } = - Can you help?
[07:32] <TokenBad> or should xinetd be used?
[07:32] <z3r0x> darkheart, and how?
[07:32] <infowolfe> White-Wolf, you using nvidia-glx?
[07:32] <[DK] A-Torsten> I havent installed ubuntu yet, and are new to linux... I have a few questions... Anyone who wants to use 5 minutes on me..?
[07:33] <DeadZed> I got my screen to work !!! :)
[07:33] <swistak> [DK] A-Torsten: jsut ask
[07:34] <White-Wolf> infowolfe : no ATI Radeon 9200SE
[07:34] <DeadZed> Dr_Willis, I got it to work finally with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <infowolfe> White-Wolf, bug ati, i'd say ;-)
[07:34] <infowolfe> or check in the forums for ati howtos
[07:34] <infowolfe> it's quite possible you've just borked out your xorg.conf;-)
[07:34] <[DK] A-Torsten> If linux use drives as fx c: d: ect.. Is it then posible to mount a ftp as a drive..?..... Just yes or no... Its only questions that have to help me figure out if linux are the system i need...
[07:35] <White-Wolf> infowolfe : Xorg.onf?
[07:35] <infowolfe> [DK] A-Torsten, if you do the research, you can mount just about anything in your fs.
[07:35] <White-Wolf> infowolfe : *Xorg.conf?
[07:35] <infowolfe> White-Wolf, attempt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> you can  'mount' a ftp server  I hear - but ive never done so.
[07:35] <[DK] A-Torsten> info... Okay... Thanks ;)
[07:35] <nalioth> [DK] A-Torsten: yes you can mount anything you like
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> and Linux does Not use C: D: E: kind of naming.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis>  - /mnt/ftpserver /mnt/windowsdrive /mnt/usbdrive1 /mnt/pornstorage
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:36] <infowolfe> [DK] A-Torsten, i know for a fact you can mount smb, sftp, and a few others quite easily, but yah, linux doesn't use windows style naming.
[07:36] <gnomefreak> hda,hdb,hdc is used in linux :)
[07:36] <[DK] A-Torsten> Dr_Willis... Nalioth... Ok... Thats what i keed ;)
[07:37] <White-Wolf> infowolfe : cheers BRB
[07:37] <gnomefreak> /mnt/pornstorage   would mount a file foe storage of your porn?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  :P
[07:38] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:39] <blanky> ubuntu is pretty slow aye?
[07:39] <blanky> I have a fast pc
[07:39] <atrophic> are you using the live cd?
[07:40] <blanky> whenever I move my windows, they lag. Drivers are working and all
[07:40] <blanky> no, installed
[07:40] <gnomefreak> blanky,  mine doesnt run slow
[07:40] <hanseatic> hi
[07:40] <blanky> gnomefreak: really :(
[07:40] <atrophic> I'm running ubuntu on a slow pc and everything is fast
[07:40] <blanky> :'(
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Mine is rather brisk. :P
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> be sure to enable hard drive dma.
[07:40] <infowolfe> blanky, what kinda video?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> is one possible issue
[07:40] <blanky> whenever I move a window around, on top of another window, it lags, especially things like open office and firefox
[07:40] <blanky> is there a setting I must put?
[07:40] <IRCMonkey999> there's lag on mine as well... quite noticable
[07:40] <swistak> well mine ubuntu is slower then turtle with anemia
[07:40] <blanky> ATI 9800 PRO, and drivers are working, I tested games and they run nicely (UT2K4, ET, etc.)
[07:40] <infowolfe> blanky, again, i ask what kind of video card you have.
[07:41] <swistak> dunno why, but it's
[07:41] <hanseatic> how can one extract the sound out of a video.mpeg file into some soundfile like sound.wav or sound.mp3?
[07:41] <alumno> !boot disk
[07:41] <ubotu> alumno: No idea
[07:41] <Stormx2> how can I make ubuntu a bit faster on a 1.4ghz cpu / 256mb ram?
[07:41] <infowolfe> blanky, does ati have something like "RenderAccel" ?
[07:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blanky about dma
[07:41] <infowolfe> Stormx2, buy more ram
[07:41] <nalioth> blanky: open office is a system hog to begin wit
[07:41] <infowolfe> nalioth, dma has nothing to do with xorg being slow ;-)
[07:41] <Stormx2> infowolfe: Doesn't work, I'd need a new mobo
[07:41] <alumno> !boot
[07:41] <ubotu> alumno: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:41] <infowolfe> Stormx2, so buy a new mobo.
[07:41] <alumno> !boot ubuntu
[07:41] <ubotu> alumno: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:41] <Stormx2> infowolfe: You are very unhelpful >.> I've considered that.
[07:42] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: tell me about java run time
[07:42] <blanky> nalioth: dma, that's it! I remember some program said I had it disabled
[07:42] <Stormx2> alumno: /msg ubotu <word>
[07:42] <alumno> how can i creat ubuntu boot disk floppy !!! ?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> thats 2 days in a row for updates i havent had updates ina  few days until yesterday
[07:42] <blanky> IRCMonkey999, it wont work that way
[07:42] <atrophic> hanseatic, I'm pretty sure you could do that with jack
[07:42] <swistak> Stormx2: well for starters - thing that i'm going to so - recompile kernel and install more compact window menager (ex. fluxbox)
[07:42] <nalioth> alumno: why dont you ask the humans a question?
[07:42] <TokenBad> where is inetd located in ubuntu?
[07:42] <infowolfe> Stormx2, i'm just not a hand-holder ;-)
[07:42] <hanseatic> use some apple cpu with 1400MHz ;o)
[07:42] <infowolfe> Toba, apt-cache search xinetd?
[07:42] <alumno> ok
[07:42] <blanky> does ATI have renderaccel
[07:42] <infowolfe> hanseatic, apple doesn't make cpus
[07:42] <luisito> helllooo!
[07:42] <alumno> i need to creat boot disk
[07:42] <infowolfe> blanky, read the docs, you'll figure it out
[07:42] <alumno> ubuntu
[07:42] <hanseatic> jack... ok...
[07:42] <IRCMonkey999> blanky: firefox asks me to instal java run time... i have no idea how....
[07:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IRCMonkey999 about java
[07:42] <Stormx2> swistak: Fluxbox eh ;-) Do my gnome apps work on it?
[07:42] <blanky> infowolfe, what docs
[07:42] <Zedugh> if dma is off, disk access will be slower (including swap). with only 256M, you'll swap more, slowing down everything, including X
[07:42] <infowolfe> blanky, look in /usr/share/doc/
[07:42] <IRCMonkey999> he he he... thanx nalioth
[07:43] <Red-Sox> safe to update the kernel?
[07:43] <blanky> can someone help IRCMonkey999 install java runtime in firefox
[07:43] <blanky> oh, java runtime
[07:43] <gnomefreak> infowolfe,  why dont they what would you call a g4?
[07:43] <luisito> hey I need to rip a dvd. It is possible in ubuntu?
[07:43] <blanky> !tell IRCMonkey999 about restrictedformats
[07:43] <alumno> boot-floppy for ubuntu ?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, yes mine went fine
[07:43] <infowolfe> gnomefreak, an ibm processor.
[07:43] <infowolfe> since ibm makes it.
[07:43] <blanky> IRCMonkey999, read the restricted formats thing
[07:43] <nalioth> luisito: yes, use dvdrip
[07:43] <Red-Sox> good
[07:43] <gnomefreak> ibm and apple merged no?
[07:43] <IRCMonkey999> thanx blanky
[07:43] <Zedugh> i also recommend fluxbox, especially on slower machines
[07:43] <swistak> Stormx2: well, as far asi i know, if you have libraries (and you do if you have gnome installed already) then yes the'll work just like KDE aps work under gnome
[07:43] <infowolfe> gnomefreak, apple doesn't _MAKE_ anything worthwhile.
[07:43] <infowolfe> gnomefreak, no.
[07:43] <nalioth> alumno: open a terminal and type "man grub"
[07:43] <IRCMonkey999> thanx everyone for helping me..... indigirl1 ...
[07:44] <nalioth> infowolfe: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:44] <gnomefreak> sorry nalioth
[07:44] <fernando_> hi
[07:44] <Pegasos989> ANyone can recommend any decent FTP servers with GUI?
[07:44] <Zedugh> can anyone tell me why audacity's built in effects are disabled?
[07:44] <infowolfe> nalioth, don't highlight me.
[07:44] <luisito> thanks nalioth. I'll run out of thanks for you guys ;)
[07:44] <alumno> ok thanks nalioth i will trie
[07:44] <flamey> hi all
[07:44] <Pegasos989> FTP servers -programs, that is
[07:44] <cocox> help plz i copied my kernell in a floppy disk and when i try to umount my disk with this script "sudo umount /media/floppy0" nothing happens and just give me the message "umount: /media/floppy0: no mounted" even if i take out my disk from the drive and make a listed of the files in the floppy still give me a list.... plz help!!!
[07:45] <ke> Isn't there an apt-get for xchat-2.6.0 ?
[07:45] <infowolfe> ke, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ;-)
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> cocox,  if you removed the disk befor umounting it - the systemmay be confised.. may be easiest to just reboot.
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ke its in the updates for ubuntu
[07:45] <ke> Hmm
[07:45] <flamey> who got wmv9 files to play under Ubuntu 64bit using totem
[07:45] <FunnyLookinHat> My computer can't get a DHCP request...  how do I fix that?  I don't remember changing anything about dhclient
[07:46] <swistak> cocox: well, for starters if it says no mounted, then it wasn't mounted in first place
[07:46] <swistak> or you tried unmounting wrong floppy
[07:46] <infowolfe> gnomefreak, which updates, if you don't mind me asking, do they really have the packagelists for breezy-backports done already?
[07:46] <gnomefreak> ke: sudo apt-get upgrade should upgrade x-chat as well as kernel if you havent done so already
[07:46] <IRCMonkey999> why is it that while using the synaptic package manager, while trying to instal VLC there are lots of other packages being affected as well?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> or its allready unmounted...
[07:46] <ke> It is
[07:46] <ke> Weird
[07:46] <darkheart> Anyone know what packages I need to install to view PHP pages served on localhost?
[07:46] <ke> Brb
[07:46] <gnomefreak> infowolfe,  backports for breezy are done
[07:46] <infowolfe> gnomefreak, how recently?
[07:46] <apokryphos> darkheart: apache2 and php4
[07:46] <gnomefreak> a week or 2
[07:47] <Red-Sox> can you compile .ink files?
[07:47] <darkheart> apokryphos What about php5? I have that and apache2 installed. I can't seem to view php pages though. Keeps asking me if I want to download the file.
[07:47] <cocox> swistak, no i already verified if is mounted and it is
[07:47] <fanopnaic> !factoid
[07:47] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[07:47] <infowolfe> gnomefreak, weird, i tried apt-get update just thursday and the Packages.gz's were missing ;-)
[07:48] <gnomefreak> since x-chat is in the main repo it should have the update
[07:48] <cocox> Dr_Willis there is no other way to make this ?
[07:48] <Zedugh> FunnyLookinHat, try configuring your network with a static IP address in the same subnet as your DHCP server and see if you can ping it (or connect to it if it is a HTTP configurable router)
[07:48] <apokryphos> darkheart: I haven't tested php5 with it; if it's packaged properly it should in theory work. If not, go down to php4
[07:48] <Zedugh> anyone know why audacity's built in effects are disabled?
[07:48] <darkheart> apokryphos I had it working earlier, but for some reason, even though I installed php-db, I couldn't get PHP to connect to a MS SQL server. Kept complaining unknown db. So I tried reinstalling things, now it doesn't work.
[07:49] <gnomefreak> infowolfe: sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade oh and if you tried sudo apt-get update you need to do that after adding the repos to your sources list
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Zedugh, I can get it to work with a static address, it just won't get a DHCP one
[07:49] <IRCMonkey999> i'm trying to play an mp3 file with VLC player, but i'm unable to hear any sound.... :-(
[07:49] <darkheart> apokryphos I need the php5 because I'm working with 3rd party code that's written in php5
[07:49] <ke> Hmm
[07:49] <Zedugh> FunnyLookinHat, what kind of box is your DHCP server?
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> IRCMonkey999, that happens to me too, try using xine
[07:49] <ke> Doesn't work
[07:49] <ke> It's still 2.4.4
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Zedugh, linksys WRT54G
[07:49] <nalioth> infralite: the repo is open, there are no pkgs yet, to my knowledge
[07:49] <swistak> cocox:  there is possibility that you copied files BEFORE you mounted it, this way the'll be in directory instead of disc
[07:49] <gnomefreak> ke: did you run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[07:49] <IRCMonkey999> FunnyLookinHat: ok...
[07:49] <nalioth> gnomefreak: i dont think there are any backports yet
[07:49] <blanky> is there a way to speed up window redrawing, its kinda slow
[07:50] <blanky> render accel?
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Zedugh, I am plugged in now for simplicity sake...  it worked a few days ago, I think a friend may have changed dhclient or dhclient3
[07:50] <nalioth> gnomefreak: even though the repo is open
[07:50] <blanky> backinstore?
[07:50] <ke> Yes
[07:50] <gnomefreak> nalioth, they are there but you are right no packages
[07:50] <blanky> i already set both, any others?
[07:50] <TokenBad> hmmm
[07:50] <TokenBad> I think I didn't do something right
[07:50] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  i have 2 backports addded
[07:50] <NoUse> Zedugh, they aren't you have to highlight a section of audio to use them
[07:51] <gnomefreak> www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc.htm = my sources list
[07:51] <TokenBad> I installed proftpd had it put into inetd...setup the conf file...rebooted..and still can't connect....get connection refused..anyone know why?
[07:51] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone...
[07:51] <Zedugh> FunnyLookinHat, the default admin address for your router should be 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1, open a browser and type http:/192.168.0.1 (or .1.1) and check your routers settings, your friend might have turned DCHP off
[07:52] <Zedugh> NoUse, thanks, I'll try that
[07:52] <gnomefreak> ! info xchat
[07:52] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, gnomefreak
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> Zedugh, DHCP is still on, he changed somehting on my computer...  o well, I'll see if I can do something besides reinstalling ubuntu, lol
[07:52] <cocox> swistak, i think that could be the problem either i ' ll chek this out thnx 4 ur tiem
[07:52] <gnomefreak> ke: did you get any updates with apt-get upgrade?
[07:53] <ke> No
[07:53] <gnomefreak> ke: also are you using breezy or hoary?
[07:53] <ke> It's all up-to-date
[07:53] <ke> Uhm
[07:53] <gnomefreak> 5.04 or 5.10?
[07:53] <ke> I dunno the name, I just downloaded the 5.10
[07:53] <IRCMonkey999> FunnyLookinHat: may i know what player you use to watch movies? especially .avi files which were encoded with xvid codec
[07:53] <swistak> well, hip hip hurray for me, i menaged to run xmms with mp3 support :D yay, now i only have to install gcc, but now i can do it with nice music in background ^^
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> i hate the names. :P lol
[07:53] <IcemanV9> xchat 2.6.0 is in breezy-backports AND 2.4.4 is in main
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> IRCMonkey999, I use xine...  it seems to handle everything very well
[07:54] <gnomefreak> 5.10 =breezy and i think the upgrade for xchat was either last night or today for me
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> IRCMonkey999, sudo apt-get install xine
[07:54] <LinuxN00bie> yo NoUse
[07:54] <ke> Hmm
[07:54] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, hey
[07:54] <flamey> i have a problem that i cant play all wmv files under Ubuntu 64bit using totem, can anyone help with this problem
[07:54] <ke> So why isn't it coming here?
[07:54] <TokenBad> I removed proftpd and wanted to reinstall so could make it standalone
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> IRCMonkey999, you may also need to download a bunch of codecs...  search for aht on ubuntuforums.org
[07:54] <LinuxN00bie> bout the segfault when running synaptic
[07:54] <TokenBad> but when tried..it didn't ask this time..is there something else that need to do?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> IcemanV9,  ty than that would mean the backports are up (kinda)
[07:55] <LinuxN00bie> NoUse, i edited the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:55] <fanopnaic> what can be wrong when I can't access the cups web interface, even though I added cupsys to shadow group?
[07:55] <swistak> flamey: bad news, according to ubuntu wiki, there is no binary codecs for wmv under AMD 64
[07:55] <LinuxN00bie> and commented everything out
[07:55] <IRCMonkey999> FunnyLookinHat: ok... thanx a lot...
[07:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IRCMonkey999 about multimedia
[07:55] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, why?
[07:55] <LinuxN00bie> then synaptic could run without segfault
[07:55] <Stormx2> LinuxN00bie: yay for no repos in your sources list ;-)
[07:55] <LinuxN00bie> yeap
[07:55] <Stormx2> LinuxN00bie: Synaptic will run, but you won't get any packages.....
[07:55] <flamey> swistak: tnx..... hope they work on it soon
[07:55] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, so now it runb but it has no purpose
[07:55] <LinuxN00bie> i uncommented them back again
[07:55] <IcemanV9> gnomefreak: i don't remember when xchat got upgraded to 2.6 'til you guys mentioned it. :)
[07:56] <LinuxN00bie> so now it can run
[07:56] <LinuxN00bie> but after sometime
[07:56] <LinuxN00bie> it crashes with segfault
[07:56] <Stormx2> LinuxN00bie: sudo apt-get update would have done the same thing
[07:56] <IRCMonkey999> nalioth: wooo hooo....  this channel rocks.... :)
[07:56] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, have you fixed your memory yet?
[07:56] <LinuxN00bie> then i hv to uncomment it back again
[07:56] <LinuxN00bie> hmm not yet
[07:56] <ke> brb
[07:56] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, you are spinning your wheels, you are trying to fix a hardware problem with software
[07:57] <LinuxN00bie> it might sound cheap to ye coz, i mean what's ur currency?
[07:57] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, US
[07:57] <LinuxN00bie> mine is RM
[07:57] <foxman> i have toshiba satellite L10 i can't know battery status
[07:57] <LinuxN00bie> urs is US$
[07:58] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, I'm not making an arguemtn for cost, I'm saying your computer will not fuction properly until you fix this
[07:58] <LinuxN00bie> yea
[07:58] <m_akys> hello, I need help. I think that I have a problem with gksudo command
[07:58] <LinuxN00bie> but ram is costly here
[07:58] <LinuxN00bie> so it'll take some time
[07:58] <nalioth> m_akys: explain your problem, plase
[07:58] <IcemanV9> foxman: type 'acpi -a' to get the status on battery
[07:58] <Pegasos989> I've heard that you can replace RAM with 30 chinese teenagers memorizin numbers in your basement?
[07:59] <m_akys> I don't know the reason but admin applications only runs if I su as root user in console and execute them
[07:59] <swistak> Pegasos989: old :P and stupid
[07:59] <m_akys> I can't execute the admin applications from gnome menus as normal user
[07:59] <m_akys> it seems that gksudo don't work fine
[07:59] <TokenBad> if you do apt-get remove how can you have it remove everything of the install so can install as new?
[07:59] <Pegasos989> swistak, yeah, I know. But as LinuxN00bie can't get new ram very soon, do you have any other ideas?
[08:00] <luisito> nalioth, sorry, I can't find the dvdrip :(
[08:00] <LinuxN00bie> I uncommented all the lines in sources.list, then run synaptic, then kill synaptic, then commented all the lines in sources.list, then it'll run normally without segfault
[08:00] <foxman> my ubuntu not support acpi
[08:00] <DeadZed> I updated my ubuntu to latest 2.6.12-10-386 and now boot-up splashscreen dont work :(
[08:00] <LinuxN00bie> and so..
[08:00] <IcemanV9> dvdrip is in breezy/multiverse
[08:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luisito about repos
[08:00] <nalioth> luisito: enable universe and multiverse
[08:00] <LinuxN00bie> everytime i got a segfault with synaptic, i hv to do that
[08:01] <IcemanV9> foxman: well, then you won't get the status on the battery :/
[08:01] <luisito> nalioth, thanks again man!
[08:01] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, ok
[08:01] <White-Wolf> CAn someone help me with StartX problems??
[08:01] <alumno> !floppy
[08:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, floppy is flop, flop, flop..
[08:01] <drunken-wallaby> is there a way to tell gnomebaker it should use the -overburn option?
[08:01] <alumno> !flop
[08:01] <ubotu> alumno: Wish i knew
[08:01] <LinuxN00bie> i wonder why is synaptic acting like that..
[08:01] <NoUse> White-Wolf, ask your question
[08:01] <DeadZed> White-Wolf sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:01] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, .... have you listened to anything I've said
[08:01] <LinuxN00bie> yeap
[08:01] <Zedugh> NoUse, thanks again, they work as you said, but IMO bad UI for the other (LADSPA, etc) plugins not to be "greyed out" when there is no selection. Maybe they can be selected as a real-time effect during recording? I'll try that. If so, then that's ok, ie. how it works, but documentation should say something.
[08:02] <LinuxN00bie> except for the rams
[08:02] <LinuxN00bie> coz they're costly over here
[08:02] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : i have tryed 'dpkg-reconfigure Xserver-Xorg' does it need to be run as root?
[08:02] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, you can't ask why your computer is acting strangely while your RAM is bad
[08:02] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, that is the cause
[08:02] <LinuxN00bie> hmm..
[08:02] <DeadZed> White-Wolf yea
[08:02] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : ok brb (need to change PC's)
[08:03] <nalioth> alumno: you can make a grub boot disk, i asked you to read the grub man page to see how to do it
[08:03] <Pegasos989> Can anyone recommend me any good software for running a HTTP and FTP servers?  GUI would be nice...
[08:03] <Xenguy> GNOME question: is there a way to see *all* the apps that are spread across different workspaces?
[08:04] <IRCMonkey999> woooo hooo.... i can play an mp3 file.....
[08:04] <IRCMonkey999> now for a .avi file ;)
[08:04] <zenlunatic> why is it when i copy a file from a cd the gnome icon for the file has a lock on it?
[08:04] <IRCMonkey999> long live xine.... but i dont understand why VLC wouldnt do it....
[08:05] <quantum> maybe you could try installing the alsa plugin for vlc
[08:05] <quantum> it is a separate package
[08:05] <ibh> Hi all
[08:05] <jadacyrus> i have a question about my Audigy 2 card using the optical output
[08:05] <darkheart> Anyone know why I can't view PHP files from localhost webserver? Web browser tries to download the file instead.
[08:06] <ibh> i have problem with ubuntu 5.10 installation : i got this message The installation process fails while trying to install the initrd-tools package
[08:06] <LinuxN00bie> ok forget bout rams, now "There was an error intializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio." in audacity, how to solve this? thx
[08:06] <IRCMonkey999> ooo ok.... quantum i'm of to trying it now.... he he he... me am a newbie to linux
[08:06] <alumno> i am reading thanks ;)
[08:06] <JDahl> darkheart, have you installed the apache php library?
[08:06] <quantum> ircmonkey999 me too :)
[08:06] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, you have to close other apps that are using the sound card
[08:06] <quantum> ircmonkey999 just a thought. i am exploring the aureonspace i got
[08:06] <ibh> any one know how to solve it ?
[08:06] <darkheart> JDahl Yeah, I believe so. What's the package called?
[08:07] <quantum> just trying to get simultaneos 5.1 + stereo sound for my other boomer
[08:07] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : Nope that didnt work, it paused for a second then just went back to let me enter another command line
[08:07] <IRCMonkey999> he he he...
[08:07] <IRCMonkey999> good luk quantum
[08:07] <quantum> anyone know if this is possible? it's a aureon 5.1 pci card
[08:07] <IcemanV9> i hope totem-xine would be default for the next release (totem-gstreamer causes too much of headaches)
[08:07] <LinuxN00bie> hmm
[08:07] <quantum> fun
[08:07] <ibh> The installation process fails while trying to install the initrd-tools package ::  this message how can we solve !?
[08:07] <bur[n] er> IcemanV9: i dont' think it can due to codecs shipped?  I could be wrong
[08:07] <JDahl> darkheart, probably libapache2-mod-php4
[08:08] <IcemanV9> bur[n] er: i think it is a seperate package .. i could be wrong as well. ;)
[08:08] <ibh> ??????????????/
[08:08] <quantum> ircmonkey it's just a matter of connecting devices + channels .. but it seems alsa does not fully support the switches it provides..hmm
[08:08] <Seveas> !info revelation dapper
[08:08] <jadacyrus> anyone have any luck using optical on an audigy 2 card?
[08:08] <ubotu> revelation: (GNOME2 Password manager), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.3-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 308 kB, Installed size: 1100 kB
[08:08] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : Nope that didnt work, it paused for a second then just went back to let me enter another command line
[08:09] <JDahl> ibh, I would like to buy a consonant...
[08:09] <DeadZed> yea igot that
[08:09] <DeadZed> fist time
[08:09] <quantum> jadacyrus i got two opticals too .. they don't seem to appear in the alsa board at all
[08:09] <White-Wolf> sorry
[08:09] <DeadZed> arrgghh .... typos
[08:09] <darkheart> JDahl Yeah, I have it installed but I use libapache2-mod-php5
[08:09] <quantum> jadacyrus try installing gnome-alsamixer
[08:09] <DeadZed> friggin computers man
[08:09] <LinuxN00bie> NoUse, i don't see anything that uses my sound card on the window list
[08:09] <White-Wolf> lol
[08:09] <quantum> jadacyrus at least it got options
[08:09] <jadacyrus> Yeah i got that far
[08:09] <jadacyrus> and i raised all the levels
[08:10] <h3lix> hey guys, ive got a big problem and ive been searching and trying for about 3 days now
[08:10] <quantum> jadacyrus it seems to be in dev
[08:10] <jadacyrus> but for some reason still no sound, might try reinstallin driver
[08:10] <h3lix> if anyone can gime a hand id be much abliged
[08:10] <TokenBad> this is driving me nuts
[08:10] <jadacyrus> i c
[08:10] <darkheart> White-Wolf Did you type 'Xserver-Xorg'? cause it's lowercase. Maybe that make a diff.
[08:10] <DeadZed> White-Wol You ARE using ubuntu, right
[08:10] <quantum> jadacyrus do you got switches or options for the opticals, if not like i do i dont think they will run at all
[08:10] <sveinung1> I get a configuration error when i start up the computer. How do I find the corrupted file?
[08:10] <DeadZed> White-Wolf You ARE using ubuntu ?
[08:10] <NoUse> h3lix, ask your question
[08:10] <Zedugh> DeadZed, i tried to come up with a name with Zed, and all the "good ones" were used, so... Zed...ugh!
[08:10] <JDahl> darkheart, maybe script isnt exectutable or something simple like that?
[08:11] <jadacyrus> yeah ive got the switches and options for them quantum
[08:11] <Stormx2> JDahl: chmod 700 <script>
[08:11] <h3lix> i have a huge issue with grub, the installer saw my winblows xp install and said it was safe to install the grub boot loader, so i hit yes and installed it. it didnt install, ive gone into the live cd and done shit and still no go
[08:11] <DeadZed> yea, baby , Zeds, good name
[08:11] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : Ubuntu whats ubuntu..........yes im using ubuntu
[08:11] <quantum> jadacyrus lucky you. damn those switches, it provides but does not support it seems
[08:11] <God> LOL I have teddy bears all over my screen
[08:11] <NoUse> !tell h3lix about grub
[08:11] <h3lix> ive dont "grub -> root (hd0,1) -> setup (hd0)"
[08:11] <h3lix> and no go
[08:11] <jadacyrus> quantum, have you checked under preferences to enable them
[08:11] <DeadZed> White-Wolf and xorg works to some extent in your ubuntu?
[08:11] <flamey> God, its a virus :)
[08:11] <JDahl> Stormx2, probably a+x?
[08:11] <NoUse> h3lix, there might be some steps you can follow there
[08:11] <God> flamey, Actually I did it.
[08:11] <haller> hi. what is the default port vncserver / vino is listening to?
[08:11] <Stormx2> JDahl: Either work.
[08:11] <h3lix> follow where?
[08:12] <God> flamey, It's called xteddy.
[08:12] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : Xorg ? i installed it yesterday and i have no idea what Xorg is!
[08:12] <flamey> lol
[08:12] <NoUse> h3lix, ubotu sent you links
[08:12] <h3lix> ah thank you
[08:12] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get Gnome to work, I done a server install and installed gnome-desktop which also installs X, but when it start it cannot find X in /usr/X11R6/bin/X  ?
[08:12] <JDahl> Stormx2, no - not unless he installs the script with a UID of the webserver (I think)
[08:12] <h3lix> appreciate it ill see if i cant get this working now
[08:12] <soundray> haller, should be 5800 or 5801
[08:12] <quantum> jadacyrus i got aux and line they are those?
[08:12] <jadacyrus> no
[08:12] <LinuxN00bie> lol accidentally killed xchat
[08:13] <DeadZed> White-Wolf type man xorg on command line
[08:13] <darkheart> JDahl No, they don't need to be executable, only readable. The PHP engine parses the files when they are read.
[08:13] <jadacyrus> quantum, first make sure your audigy device is selected under device
[08:13] <tuxito> hola
[08:13] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : kk brb
[08:13] <tuxito> algun latino?
[08:13] <Stormx2> JDahl: Well, 755 then
[08:13] <sorush20> guys I can't view some of my tiff files what could the problem be?
[08:13] <jadacyrus> quantum, the switches are called IEC958
[08:13] <quantum> jadacyrus i got aureon 5.1 pci fun on the alsa mixer
[08:13] <jadacyrus> quantum, so make sure u have them enabled
[08:13] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie, try running 'killall esd' in a terminal and see if you can start audacity
[08:13] <tuxito> alguirn fr Chile?
[08:13] <quantum> jadacyrus cool i have those
[08:13] <darkheart> JDahl I had it working earlier, but then started f@**ing w/ it to get something else that wasn't working working. Suddenly I can't view the pages anymore. (Did a bunch of reinstalls).
[08:14] <jadacyrus> quantum yeah those are the opticals
[08:14] <medw1974> Hi...can anyone help...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?
[08:14] <quantum> jadacyrus so everything in iec is optical-related?
[08:14] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get Gnome to work, I done a server install and installed gnome-desktop which also installs X, but when it starts it cannot find X in /usr/X11R6/bin/X  ?
[08:14] <jadacyrus> quantum i think so
[08:14] <jadacyrus> quantum also S/PDIF if you see it
[08:14] <quantum> jadacyrus very much solved mysteries. thanx
[08:14] <Stormx2> chicken-man: And did you install X?
[08:14] <jadacyrus> yeah it still might not work, coz i cant get mine too but i know you at least have to have those enabled
[08:15] <quantum> jadacyrus monitor, phase inverse, select valid, loop, output
[08:15] <LinuxN00bie> NoUse, YAY it works, THX!
[08:15] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : yea i get a big old instruction manual
[08:15] <chicken-man> Stormx2, the gnome-desktop package installs X
[08:15] <JDahl> darkheart, it always worked fine for me in the past also... I never had to do anything special
[08:15] <DeadZed> White-Wolf How long have you been using linux now ?
[08:15] <Stormx2> chicken-man: o_O
[08:15] <LinuxN00bie> ^_^ V
[08:15] <quantum> jadacyrus + 5v and copyright
[08:15] <Stormx2> chicken-man: When do you get the error, when installing?
[08:15] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : 6 hours..........mabye
[08:15] <jadacyrus> quantum not sure what you are lookin at
[08:15] <DeadZed> :D
[08:15] <DeadZed> omg
[08:16] <DeadZed> lol
[08:16] <chicken-man> Stormx2, no all installed, when the computer goes to run GDM
[08:16] <quantum> jadacyrus gnome-alsamixer switches
[08:16] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : lol what?
[08:16] <quantum> jadacyrus, as i said i got a aureon 5.1 pci fun
[08:16] <DeadZed> lol means laughing a lot or something
[08:16] <darkheart> JDahl It worked fine for me also on the first install, but despite having php-db installed, I couldn't use the MSSQL connection type in the PEAR DB class.
[08:16] <chicken-man> Stormx2, it cannot find X in the normal location
[08:16] <Zedugh> chicken-man, have you checked that X is in /usr/X11R6/bin?
[08:16] <DeadZed> nice joke man
[08:16] <jadacyrus> quantum not farmiliar with that im still havin trouble myself
[08:16] <darkheart> JDahl So I tried installing/reinstalling packages and then suddenly it's broke.
[08:16] <quantum> jadacyrus try installing gnome-alsamixer =)
[08:16] <jadacyrus> quantum all i know is the IEC shit is for optical
[08:16] <DeadZed> White-Wolf what box did you install this ubuntu on
[08:17] <chicken-man> Zedugh, yes it's not there, but I thought it would install it there by default
[08:17] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : box?
[08:17] <quantum> jadacyrus yeah i believe they are meant for controlling the sound stream in a generic matter
[08:17] <Blonde_with_brai> ohhhhh
[08:17] <quantum> jadacyrus well the alsa-wiki could explain them
[08:17] <JDahl> darkheart, did you try restarting the webserver?
[08:17] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : a small rectangular one its called a harddrive
[08:17] <quantum> jadacyrus you know www.alsa.com?
[08:17] <darkheart> JDahl Yeah, quite a few times ;)
[08:18] <jadacyrus> quantum yeah
[08:18] <DeadZed> White-Wolf youre kidding me, right
[08:18] <quantum> jadacyrus if i could just find aureon-specific there
[08:18] <jadacyrus> quantum well who manufactures you're card
[08:18] <quantum> jadacyrus and if mic-in mode is selected, is it active as center/lfe i dont know
[08:18] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : hey im only 16 dont poke fun at the noob!
[08:18] <jadacyrus> they have an entire database of cards
[08:18] <JDahl> darkheart, what does "cat /etc/mime.types | grep php" tell you?
[08:18] <DeadZed> Im being pulled, man
[08:18] <quantum> jadacyrus been running around my computer for  an hour now
[08:19] <Stormx2> Lets see if fluxbox works ;-)
[08:19] <sorush20> how can I open mdi files?
[08:19] <trappist> JDahl: just so you know, grep php /etc/mime.types is a little more efficient, and less typing
[08:19] <quantum> jadacyrus i got two useless in and out plugs in my front panel. does your audigy have a aux connector for plugs?
[08:19] <JDahl> trappist, true :)
[08:19] <darkheart> JDahl It's got the correct mime types in there
[08:20] <jadacyrus> quantum yeah
[08:20] <quantum> jadacyrus lucky you again
[08:20] <jadacyrus> heh
[08:20] <quantum> jadacyrus well what do you get for 40 euros
[08:20] <darkheart> JDahl application/x-httpd-php                         phtml pht php
[08:20] <Zedugh> chicken-man, i did "dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/X" and it says its from package xserver-common, so do "dpkg -s xserver-common" (little 's') to see if you have xserver-common installed
[08:20] <jadacyrus> i dunno im american
[08:20] <jadacyrus> haha
[08:20] <quantum> jadacyrus you do know that euro is about 1.2 bucks ???
[08:20] <jadacyrus> american with a taste for africa
[08:20] <quantum> jadacyrus uncivilized
[08:20] <DeadZed> White-Wolf ekhem, ,, whatever you age is ... (if it's more than 40, rresspect) ,, Go watch TV now and buy some new computer (box) tomorrow and install winxp and ubuntu on it ... Though Im sure youre having a laugh on my expense
[08:21] <quantum> jadacyrus hi there. i'm finnish =) and that was with a ;)
[08:21] <jadacyrus> alright later
[08:21] <DeadZed> quantum Coan o Brien likes finland a lot for some reason
[08:21] <Mitja> How do I format free space from console?
[08:21] <quantum> DeadZed he must have had a sip of sinebrychoff beer ;)
[08:22] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : i have a XP/Ubuntu multi boot install , any why would i need a new computer?
[08:22] <nalioth> DeadZed: quantum: jadacyrus: can y'all take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[08:22] <DeadZed> White-Wolf why doesnt it work then
[08:22] <quantum> i apologize. will do
[08:22] <DeadZed> it should
[08:22] <White-Wolf> DeadZed : thats what i want to know
[08:22] <soundray> Mitja, do you mean free space on the hard drive?
[08:22] <JDahl> darkheart, shouldnt you have something for php{3,4,5} in mime.types?
[08:22] <DeadZed> nalioth could you help White-Wolf please, I cant take it
[08:23] <Mitja> soundray, yes, and it's not mounted anywhere
[08:23] <Stormx2> eek
[08:23] <soundray> Mitja, is it partitioned?
[08:23] <Pegasos989> !php
[08:23] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:23] <Mitja> soundray, not yet
[08:23] <chicken-man> Zedugh, it was not installed :-/
[08:23] <Mitja> soundray, just free
[08:23] <sorush20> how do read office document imaging files?
[08:23] <DeadZed> nalioth What are you doing now
[08:23] <soundray> Mitja, to partition on the console, try cfdisk.
[08:23] <Stormx2> fluxbox is... interesting ;-)
[08:24] <DeadZed> nalioth help someone and stop wanking there
[08:24] <soundray> Mitja, after creating the partition, you have to reboot. Don't skip, you'll get into trouble.
[08:24] <Stormx2> DeadZed: ooohhh he's not gonna like that
[08:24] <Mitja> soundray, thx, I tried in GNOME, but can't seem to find the buttons..
[08:24] <Stormx2> DeadZed: told ya
[08:24] <darkheart> JDahl There is nothing for 5, but there are types for 3 and 4.
[08:24] <nalioth> DeadZed: please be respectful
[08:25] <medw1974> Hi...can anyone help...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?
[08:25] <White-Wolf> so can anyone elce help?
[08:25] <chicken-man> Zedugh, ERROR starting GDM: cannot stat /etc/X11/X
[08:26] <White-Wolf> anyone?
[08:27] <jmbarbier> Hi... another help request... upgrading from Hoary to Breezy on amd64, with a LVM + RAID1 partitions, i had a massive filesystem corruption... lost everything... WHY ???
[08:27] <LinuxN00bie> hello, can anyone plz tell me what this means?: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnuchess_5.07-2_i386.deb:  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[08:28] <ke> Perhaps a stupid question, what is dapper?
[08:28] <greenpenguin13> development version of ubuntu
[08:28] <JDahl> LinuxN00bie, are you running a package manager without sudo, or are you running several instances of the package manager at the same time?
[08:28] <ke> Ah
[08:29] <quantum> anyone know how a source for 5.1 channel streams? are there any?
[08:29] <LinuxN00bie> JDahl i'm not running it without sudo or hv several instances of it
[08:29] <White-Wolf> Can anyone help me with a StartX/GUI problem?
[08:30] <LinuxN00bie> Jdahl, i'm downloading something big, and at the same time running it
[08:30] <soundray> White-Wolf, we'll try.
[08:30] <White-Wolf> well basically i cant load StartX
[08:31] <soundray> White-Wolf, detail?
[08:31] <linux-newbie-ss> hi folks u remember me 15 min i asked about ubuntu now  i installed it was piece a cake one of the best linux distro i ever seen
[08:31] <IRCMonkey999> the time in my system tray doesn't display a.m or p.m even in the 12 hr mode.... why?
[08:32] <griffin_> anyone good feel like giving some advice on lexmark printers?
[08:32] <sorush20> hello
[08:32] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get Gnome to work, I am getting this error: cannot stat /etc/X11/X
[08:32] <Zedugh> chicken-man, how did you install xserver-common?
[08:33] <n0dl> and xclient-base?
[08:33] <griffin_> wow my grammer was bad there.... anyone feel good...printers
[08:33] <chicken-man> Zedugh, apt-get install
[08:33] <PinTo> l o
[08:33] <soundray> griffin_, grammer is gramper's wife
[08:33] <AndieB> Hi all!
[08:33] <griffin_> thanks
[08:33] <Simimi> I get this error when I try to use my cd-rom it says it can not find mountpoint in... fstab? I tried man fstab but I do not understand what it says
[08:33] <Simimi> Hi hi!
[08:33] <LinuxN00bie> correct spelling: grammar
[08:34] <AndieB> I'm having a bit probbs with a application that I've installed, called jEdit, anyone heard of it?
[08:34] <PinTo> i'am trying to install a new kernel ...and i'am using a guide but it stops workin
[08:34] <griffin_> ohhhh, so now my grammar and spelling are poor.
[08:34] <quantum> and your syllabus lacks depth
[08:34] <Simimi> specifically I am trying to use it with TOTEM
[08:34] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: are you sure it IS installed? type 'dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg' to see if it IS installed
[08:34] <blanky> I have a libtinyxml.a and header files, where can I put them so I can access them through command line for G++ in any directory
[08:34] <jbroome> and you may or may not smell like elderberries. :)
[08:34] <griffin_> and my lexmark wont print so no one will ever know
[08:34] <soundray> griffin_, I've never had a Lexmark, but let us know what the problem is anyway.
[08:34] <PinTo> the guide stops workin after about 8 lines?
[08:34] <linux-newbie-ss> i installed ubuntu it open a grafik window how can i go to xterm window ? or there is no xterm
[08:34] <White-Wolf> Soundray : startup Linux, it goes through the usuall boot cycle and comes up with 'failed to load X Server it may not be setup correctly' then it goed into the shell
[08:35] <sethk> PinTo, it's probably written for the 2.4 kernel
[08:35] <AndieB> I need and want to installd SUN Java Runtime Enviroment 1.5... how should I do that? Can't find it in Synaptic Package Manager??
[08:35] <klander> how do i set grub to boot into windows by default ?
[08:35] <griffin_> well, I have the drivers installed, and ubuntu knows its there.  It send the print job, and then seems to think that the job has printed. Meanwhile the printer does nothing
[08:35] <White-Wolf> Soundray : *I startup Linux
[08:35] <chicken-man> IcemanV9: does no output mean it's installed ?
[08:35] <IcemanV9> linux-newbie-ss: accessories > terminal
[08:35] <PinTo> 2.6 sethk
[08:35] <soundray> White-Wolf, if you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you may get a clue as to what goes wrong.
[08:35] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: then it is NOT installed.
[08:35] <sethk> PinTo, the kernel is 2.6.  I'm saying that the guide is probably written for 2.4.  What is it that "stops working"?
[08:35] <haller> soundray, nope 5800 didnt work. it's 5900, i found it here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-April/msg00111.html but thanks
[08:36] <sethk> PinTo, what does it say that is not doing what you expect?
[08:36] <PinTo> i have a hard time today ...put it this way i need a format
[08:36] <White-Wolf> Soundray : ok
[08:36] <quantum> away for a few hours-it's football time
[08:36] <soundray> haller, yeah, that's the http port, but vnc is on 58xx still.
[08:36] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[08:36] <LinuxN00bie> if i use my internet connection for other things while downloading a big file, will that file corrupt?
[08:36] <PinTo> sethk just a sec
[08:36] <klander> how do i set grub to boot into windows by default ?
[08:36] <AndieB> LinuxNOObie: No.
[08:37] <chicken-man> IcemanV9: ahhh good :-P
[08:37] <griffin_> soundray, sounds odd eh? drivers are there and print job gets sent. I thought mabe a prob with USB?
[08:37] <Simimi> what does it mean when it can not find my cd-rom mount point in fstab?
[08:37] <griffin_> no pun intended
[08:37] <soundray> White-Wolf, you can put the file up on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl if you want.
[08:38] <jmbarbier> did anybody have trouble upgrading from hoary to breezy with raid 1 devices ???
[08:38] <soundray> griffin_, enter lsusb and see if the printer is there.
[08:38] <LinuxN00bie> klander, edit the file in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:38] <Zedugh> IcemanV9, i was checking, does xserver-xorg install the x-client packages, seems like it doesn't
[08:40] <IcemanV9> Zedugh: it should .. it's a dummy package
[08:40] <White-Wolf> Soundray : its giving me a 'Permission Denied'
[08:40] <PinTo> sethk follow this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto#head-cc3d847e58cfda6ae7b7416aeab440f794a6dd31
[08:40] <soundray> White-Wolf, sudo ls then.
[08:40] <soundray> White-Wolf, *lsusb
[08:41] <White-Wolf> Soundray : lsusb
[08:41] <White-Wolf> ?
[08:41] <Zedugh> IcemanV9, yeah, but if you list its dependencies, no clients
[08:41] <chicken-man> IcemanV9: OK large pile of errors now .....
[08:41] <PinTo> it works up until sudo apt-get install linux-source
[08:42] <chicken-man> IcemanV9: ERROR: could not open default font
[08:42] <sethk> PinTo, ok, then what happens?
[08:42] <White-Wolf> Soundray :whats lsusb
[08:42] <h3lix> still no go
[08:42] <soundray> White-Wolf, 'sudo lsusb' and hit return.
[08:42] <h3lix> and now im getting this
[08:42] <h3lix> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[08:42] <White-Wolf> Soundray :ok
[08:43] <PinTo> cannot find kernel source
[08:43] <PinTo> i need to build a kernal with ATM pppoa bla bla for my modem to work ...u see
[08:43] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: hmm .. did you just install Ubuntu? i remembered that you said you installed it as server, then gnome-desktop?
[08:43] <sethk> you mean that if you do:   ls -ld /usr/src/linux*    you don't see a file names linux*.tar.bz2?
[08:43] <White-Wolf> Soundray :right its giving me a whole load of addresses
[08:44] <PinTo> no
[08:44] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: gnome-desktop *should* install xorg as well
[08:44] <r3nd3z> Hmm, can anyone tell me why ubuntu stops loading after having pressed "Enter"? A lot of stuff loads, but it stops, screen goes black, then nada.. CD rom stop spinning the CD, and nothing. P4 system
[08:44] <chicken-man> IcemanV9, Just install 5.10 "breezy" server install the i install gnome-desktop, I'll check xorg
[08:44] <Zedugh> chicken-man, not positive, but the "top-level psuedo package" to install a working X environment could be xorg-common
[08:44] <h3lix> let me ask you guys, would reinstalling my winblows and then putting ubuntu ontop fix this problem?
[08:44] <jmbarbier> so... nobody there runs a LVM+RAID1 ???
[08:45] <soundray> White-Wolf, sorry, I was getting confused. Have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:45] <h3lix> ive done everything in those grub links and still no worky
[08:45] <sethk> PinTo, that's odd.  I did the install, and I have /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[08:45] <PinTo> atleast if i could just make menu config and build a kernel...i would be getting somewhere
[08:45] <griffin_> soundray, the printer is there on lsusb as device 002.  strange.  maybe the drivers are no good. Although they are straight from lexmark, i did have to fiddle to install them
[08:45] <chicken-man> IcemanV9, xorg-common is installed
[08:45] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: dpkg -l |grep xorg-common
[08:45] <White-Wolf> Soundray : it says 'permission Denied' when i try to access it
[08:45] <sethk> PinTo, there must be an error during the install, if the tar file doesn't appear
[08:45] <chicken-man> IcemanV9, looks like a problem with the fonts to me :-/
[08:45] <PinTo> sethk yeah its probably me
[08:45] <sethk> PinTo, by the way, you want make xconfig, not menuconfig, unless you are unable to run windows
[08:46] <PinTo> right thnx sethk
[08:46] <sethk> PinTo, try the install again, click on "terminal" so you can see if there are any strange messages
[08:46] <soundray> White-Wolf, you're on the console, right?
[08:46] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: did you tried this command, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"?
[08:47] <sethk> PinTo, make sure you have "un-clicked" the box that says "close automatically after install"
[08:47] <sethk> PinTo, that's not the exact words but hopefully you know which box I mean
[08:47] <White-Wolf> Soundray : im in the root login of the shell
[08:47] <Zedugh> chicken-man, check if you have ( and install if you dont ) x-window-system-core
[08:47] <PinTo> yeah ok
[08:47] <White-Wolf> Soundray : i can only get my user account and Root thats the problem no GUI at all thus no console
[08:48] <soundray> White-Wolf, with console I mean a text screen.
[08:48] <IcemanV9> chicken-man: Xorg fonts should be reside in /usr/share/X11/fonts .. see if there are any fonts
[08:48] <White-Wolf> Soundray : yea black scree , white text
[08:48] <White-Wolf> *screen
[08:48] <r3nd3z> Anyone? Ubuntu stops loading after "enter" and some stuff's been loaded?
[08:49] <sethk> r3nd3z, the install cd?  the live cd?  Your installed system?
[08:49] <chicken-man> IcemanV9: no fonts
[08:49] <soundray> White-Wolf, what do you get when you enter whoami ?
[08:49] <Stormx2> what other desktop environments are there except gnome, xfce, kde and the "box" family?
[08:50] <LinuxN00bie> guys, what utility is good for cleaning up or defrag the memory in ubunut?
[08:50] <White-Wolf> Soundray : havent tryed it give me a second
[08:50] <soundray> White-Wolf, can you do a 'ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and tell me what the permissions and owners are, something like '-rw-r--r--  1 root root'
[08:50] <gnomefreak> enlightenment ratpoison, and a few others that i cant remember off hand
[08:50] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, no need to defrag anything
[08:50] <theCore> Stormx2: none
[08:50] <Zedugh> chicken-man, x-window-system-core will install the fonts
[08:51] <Stormx2> theCore: nevermind, I've just found out about ion, pekwm, wmii
[08:51] <medw1974> sorry to keep asking...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?
[08:51] <LinuxN00bie> sethk, how bout clearing the cache?
[08:51] <LinuxN00bie> i mean how to clear the cache?
[08:51] <fredforfaen> !hardware
[08:51] <ubotu> hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:51] <theCore> theCore: there are windows managers, not desktop env.
[08:51] <White-Wolf> Soundray : Root
[08:51] <PinTo> TTFN
[08:51] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, which cache?  the web browser cache?
[08:51] <ppatrice> how may i install a package like http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver without Synaptic because must be command mode
[08:51] <LinuxN00bie> sethk, memory cache
[08:51] <theCore> Stormx2: those are windows managers, not desktop env.
[08:52] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, that makes no sense.
[08:52] <soundray> White-Wolf, now what do you get from 'ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log' ?
[08:52] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, there is no memory cache.  there is swap memory, but you don't do anything with that, the O/S manages it
[08:52] <enlaces> Chile
[08:52] <LinuxN00bie> sethk, Memory: 94% in use of which 68% is cache
[08:52] <Stormx2> theCore: eek
[08:52] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, so?
[08:52] <Zedugh> chicken-man, IcemanV9, it looks like x-window-system-core is the big daddy package with dependencies for xorg-common, fonts, xbase-clients, xutils, etc
[08:52] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, by the way, that figure doesn't mean anything, but even if it did, so?
[08:52] <LinuxN00bie> sethk, so what's this cahce?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> LinuxN00bie,  how much ram do you have?
[08:53] <LinuxN00bie> *cache
[08:53] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, I have no idea.  where are you reading?
[08:53] <LinuxN00bie> gnomefreak 512MB
[08:53] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, use top to get a state of the system
[08:53] <ppatrice> can somebody help me
[08:53] <ppatrice> how may i install a package like http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver without Synaptic because must be command mode
[08:53] <theCore> ppatrice: aptitude
[08:54] <soundray> ppatrice, try aptitude
[08:54] <LinuxN00bie> sethk add system monitor to the gnome panel then in the preferences configure it to monitor the memory
[08:54] <ppatrice> how?
[08:54] <yh> who decides on the crazy code names of ubuntu releases?
[08:54] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, as I said, that number is meaningless.  The o/s manages memory.  You don't do anything directly to it.
[08:55] <Zedugh> ppatrice, in a console, type "aptitude" ( or try dselect )
[08:55] <LinuxN00bie> sethk, hmm
[08:55] <maney> ppatrice: apt-get --install fglrx
[08:55] <gnomefreak> is that guide an office guide and for what ubuntu? (breezy,hoary)?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> official*
[08:55] <ppatrice> maney tks i think that's what i need
[08:55] <White-Wolf> Soundray : i get '-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15112 2005-11-23 19:35 /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[08:55] <r3nd3z^> anyone able to help me? Linux stops loading after the boot screen?
[08:55] <maney> (personally I love aptitude, and use it by preference, but for one package...)
[08:55] <Zedugh> ppatrice, yes maney, but sudo apt-get install ...
[08:55] <LinuxN00bie> oooo gotta restart
[08:55] <sethk> r3nd3z^, if you ignore questions, who can help you?
[08:56] <r3nd3z^> i pinged out, sorry, try again
[08:56] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu guide
[08:56] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[08:56] <ppatrice> kay brb
[08:56] <maney> Zedugh: right, sudo if you aren't there already.  "sudo su -", usually, me
[08:56] <soundray> White-Wolf, okay, now do a 'cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and see if the trailing lines make sense to you.
[08:56] <gnomefreak> !guide
[08:56] <ubotu> somebody said guide was at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot_guide.html
[08:56] <White-Wolf> Soundray : ok
[08:56] <sethk> r3nd3z^, what are you talking about?  are you booting the install cd, the live cd, or an installed system?
[08:56] <nalioth> maney: sudo su is redundant. sudo -i  is the preferred method
[08:56] <Zedugh> maney, right, but for ppatrice....
[08:56] <nalioth> gnomefreak: what are you after?
[08:57] <maney> Zedugh: yes
[08:57] <tedd> Well
[08:57] <tedd> I got Ubuntu workin'!
[08:57] <maney> nalioth: preferences are like standards: we can each have one or more  :-)
[08:57] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  i wanted to know if that was an officail guide
[08:57] <Zedugh> congrats tedd
[08:57] <tedd> And it is beautiful.
[08:57] <Stormx2> remind me how to remove a dir with rm?
[08:57] <Stormx2> there are a couple of options I need
[08:57] <tedd> ANd I'm outta here. Thanks for all of the help guys!
[08:57] <sethk> Stormx2, rm -fr, although you should use rmdir
[08:57] <Zedugh> stormx2 "rm -rf dirname"
[08:57] <r3nd3z^> sethk: Im trying to install ubuntu with the install CD, comes to the Ubuntu logo screen, i press "enter" and some loading starts, but after 10 sec or so, nothing. nada.
[08:58] <nalioth> gnomefreak: ubuntuguide is not official and can break ubuntu boxes
[08:58] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  this guide http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[08:58] <sethk> r3nd3z^, use the boot argument that tells it to use standard vga only
[08:58] <maney> has anyone heard of a fix for the Firefox printing problem?  #10293, 18572, etc.
[08:58] <Zedugh> ya, rm -rf xyz, mistype and you delete who knows what
[08:58] <nalioth> maney: yes, but let's stick to the ubuntu playbook while giving advice in #ubuntu please
[08:58] <White-Wolf> Soundray : there is a _LOT_of text and it goes too fast for me to see any of it
[08:58] <sethk> r3nd3z^, F1 will tell you what the other function keys do.  One is arguments for special machines
[08:58] <maney> nalioth: sorry, they didn't send me a copy
[08:58] <nalioth> maney: help.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <sethk> r3nd3z^, there is only one argument with "vga" in it.  I don't remember the exact name but you'll see it
[08:58] <soundray> White-Wolf, is anything in the *trailing lines* that makes sense, like "no pointer found" or something?
[08:59] <trappist> maney: you might try #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[08:59] <nalioth> gnomefreak: help.ubuntu.com is Official
[08:59] <r3nd3z^> sethk, ah, okey, i'll try that.. thanks
[08:59] <maney> nalioth: I shall rely on you to correct any trivial deviations I might utter, then
[08:59] <gnomefreak> thank you nalioth
[08:59] <nalioth> maney: ubuntu is not debian, and 'trivial (to debian) deviations" are not so trivial here
[08:59] <maney> trappist: nah, I know they're going to fix it someday.  And it should be gone by Dapper
[09:00] <soundray> White-Wolf, X writes a lot of stuff in the log, but we're interested in what happened when it failed. That's usually the last entry.
[09:00] <maney> nalioth: that would nearly make sense if what i said didn't work
[09:00] <joft_is_malfunct> hi, I just tried to upgrade to breezy on my dell 5150 notebook. after the upgrade it does the "I cannot start the X server" thing, and freezes completely on that screen. whenever I try to boot into single user mode it asks for the root password, but there is no root password that I know of (ubuntu doesn't use one, right?) and when I hit ctrl+d to continue it just starts trying to load X again and explodes
[09:01] <joft> hi, I just tried to upgrade to breezy on my dell 5150 notebook. after the upgrade it does the "I cannot start the X server" thing, and freezes completely on that screen. whenever I try to boot into single user mode it asks for the root password, but there is no root password that I know of (ubuntu doesn't use one, right?) and when I hit ctrl+d to continue it just starts trying to load X again and explodes
[09:01] <White-Wolf> Soundray : the only bit is "Fatal Server Error : No Screens Found"
[09:01] <sethk> joft_is_malfunct, ubuntu does use a root password.  if you do expert install you will get a chance to set it.
[09:01] <trappist> maney: I know, I can't believe ubuntu still has bugs.  I mean, it's been around for MONTHS.
[09:01] <sethk> joft, in the regular install you set the root password with sudo passwd
[09:01] <sethk> joft, so if you are upgrading you should have a root password
[09:01] <r3nd3z^> sethk, great! it worked ;)
[09:02] <soundray> White-Wolf, what video card do you have?
[09:02] <sethk> r3nd3z^, good  :)
[09:02] <maney> trappist: well, that one was discussed back before the first release, and I thought it was considered worth fixing
[09:02] <maney> not that I've had occasion to find out
[09:02] <sethk> joft, to get out of the fix you are in, you can boot the cd in rescue mode and set the root password
[09:02] <r3nd3z^> sethk, thanks, owe you one
[09:02] <White-Wolf> Soundray : ATI Radeon 9200SE
[09:02] <joft> i'll try
[09:02] <Zedugh> joft, after it "explodes" are you left in a console? can you Alt-F2 to a console?
[09:03] <White-Wolf> Soundray : i dont think my Intel Graphics is connected
[09:03] <White-Wolf> *are
[09:03] <sethk> White-Wolf, is, actually
[09:03] <sethk> White-Wolf, there is only one
[09:03] <White-Wolf> lol
[09:03] <joft> i'm left on the "I cannot start the X server" window, frozen
[09:03] <sethk> joft, you'll have to use the cd in rescue mode
[09:03] <trappist> White-Wolf: you had it right the first time
[09:03] <sethk> joft, hey didn't I just say that?
[09:04] <White-Wolf> AH YOU ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM AS ME JOLT!!
[09:04] <joft> yes, it's what i'm doing
[09:04] <soundray> White-Wolf, have you installed the fglrx stuff?
[09:04] <White-Wolf> Soundray: no
[09:04] <zenlunatic> my mouse froze how can i restart it?
[09:04] <soundray> ubotu: tell White-Wolf about ati
[09:04] <zenlunatic> even restarting x doesn't fix my mouse
[09:05] <soundray> White-Wolf, you need to follow the instructions for ATI cards. Ubotu sent you a message.
[09:05] <ppatrice> maney
[09:05] <ppatrice> it cant be install
[09:05] <ppatrice> apt-get --install fglrx
[09:05] <Zedugh> joft, after lock-up, you could try Ctrl-C or Alt-F2 to get a console
[09:06] <ppatrice> E:command --install
[09:06] <ppatrice> joft i have the same problem
[09:06] <White-Wolf> Soundray: what language does he speak?
[09:07] <ppatrice> soundray send me that to please
[09:07] <soundray> !tell ppatrice about ati
[09:07] <grout> sd
[09:07] <ppatrice> tks
[09:08] <soundray> White-Wolf, url :)
[09:08] <brianj> I have a quick question: I'm running the Ubuntu server version that came out shortly afte Breezy.  When I apt-get upgrade, it says 2 packages have been held back.  One is kernel, one is kernel headers.  Anyone know how to get this working?
[09:09] <andcor> hey
[09:09] <andcor> someone knows latex ??
[09:10] <soundray> andcor, a bit
[09:10] <andcor> i've just installed ubuntu and tetex
[09:10] <andcor> but the tetex won't import my eps graphics as miktex does
[09:11] <andcor> how can that be ??
[09:11] <soundray> andcor, are you running latex or pdflatex?
[09:11] <andcor> latex
[09:11] <joft> ok, i'm in recovery mode now
[09:11] <joft> do i need to dpkg-reconfigure x?
[09:12] <andcor> if I run pdflatex, it certainly won't include them
[09:12] <slide> How do i mount a floppy using nautilus?
[09:12] <soundray> andcor, in your preamble, do you have \usepackage{graphicx} ?
[09:12] <andcor> yes
[09:12] <xophEr> how can i install fam? When I try to install this package using apt, it wants to remove, well everything.. And I really dont want that..
[09:12] <soundray> soundray, is your .eps in the same directory as your .tex ?
[09:13] <Zedugh> joft, have you got fglrx installed? and what is in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your video driver?
[09:13] <trappist> xophEr: wow, you're right.  that's lame.
[09:13] <andcor> if i use latex it can find out how big the graphic is, but it won't if i use pdflatex
[09:13] <trappist> After unpacking 1134MB disk space will be freed.
[09:13] <felipe_> Hello, anyone here familiar with freenx? Im conected right know throught freenx to this pc, although I have a few minor problems, first the keyboard layout change, second the icons I chose in themes, wont load, and the only part of the theme that works right is the metacity part...any ideas on whats wrong_
[09:13] <xophEr> :)
[09:14] <joft> nvidia driver
[09:14] <joft> what's fglrx?
[09:14] <Zedugh> joft, what kind of video card do you have (fglrx is for ati cards)
[09:14] <maney> ppatrice: sorry, my bad.  apt-get doesn't use --, it's just "apt-get install <packages>"
[09:14] <soundray> andcor, you should convert your eps to pdf before running pdflatex
[09:14] <joft> nvidia
[09:14] <joft> it was working fine on breezy
[09:14] <andcor> ok
[09:14] <joft> on hoary I mean
[09:15] <joft> I upgraded to breezy and it started doing this
[09:15] <andcor> but, shouldn't latex be able to use eps ??
[09:15] <soundray> joft, what architecture are you using?
[09:15] <joft> 686
[09:15] <sethk> joft, you probably just have to reinstall the nvidia modules.  that's normal whenever you use a new or different kernel
[09:15] <Zedugh> joft, do "lsmod | grep nvidia" to see if the nvidia kernel module is loaded
[09:15] <soundray> andcor, it should, but the kind of trouble you have I have solved by converting my eps's separately.
[09:16] <andcor> ok
[09:16] <Stormx2> aaahh
[09:16] <andcor> how do i convert it to pdf ??
[09:16] <joft> it's loaded
[09:16] <Stormx2> sweet sweet gtk2
[09:16] <Stormx2> how i've missed you
[09:16] <soundray> joft, have you got linux-restricted-modules-686 installed?
[09:17] <joft> er, no
[09:17] <earthen> wondering if some one knows where i can find samba swat for Ubuntu64
[09:17] <joft> getting them now
[09:17] <carsten> hi, i have a fresh kubuntu install, and everytime i use konqueror, the windows look somewhat destroyes
[09:17] <soundray> earthen, apt-get install swat ?
[09:18] <sethk> carsten, are you getting little lines and dots on the window?
[09:18] <carsten> lines, not so little
[09:18] <sethk> carsten, see if the behavior changes with a different font.
[09:18] <earthen> soundray, it's says swat unavalinle
[09:18] <earthen> unavalable
[09:18] <sethk> carsten, I'm seeing that both in ubuntu and the latest slackware
[09:18] <joft> should i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:18] <carsten> sethk: how can i change the font
[09:18] <soundray> earthen, it's in universe.
[09:19] <sethk> carsten, I forget exactly where it is in konqueror, but there are preferences hiding there somewhere.
[09:19] <IRCMonkey999> what is the best download manager for firefox+flashgot on ubuntu?
[09:19] <sethk> carsten, or you can duplicate the behavior in konsole where it's straightforward to change fnts
[09:20] <earthen> soundray,  I  have universe in my list
[09:20] <Zeph> A question from a first time ever on any Linux based system ever; How do i change ports for Ktorrent or BitTorrent. The site im using doesn't like the ports used.
[09:20] <earthen> soundray, could you post me your sources.list
[09:20] <soundray> earthen, you need to enable universe.
[09:20] <soundray> earthen, apt-get update ?
[09:20] <earthen> soundray,  yeah I did all that
[09:21] <joft> what keyboard setting should I use in xorg configure for a dell laptop?
[09:21] <soundray> !tell earthen about repositories
[09:21] <nalioth> Zeph: start your client using flags from here http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[09:21] <nalioth> earthen: enable multiverse, also
[09:21] <carsten> how can i make a screenshot of it?
[09:22] <Zeph> nalioth;  Thanks! I'll give that a try.
[09:22] <cedric_> is ubuntu the current, most popular debian X distro?
[09:22] <Stormx2> who cares, tis damn awesome ;-D
[09:22] <cedric_> i care
[09:22] <soundray> joft, leave the defaults for a US keyboard.
[09:22] <cedric_> but sure it is welldone
[09:24] <soundray> cedric_, more popular than Mulroney.
[09:24] <earthen> nalioth, soundray  here's my sources list could you tell me if somethinf is missing http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4931
[09:24] <carsten> okay i have to restart now
[09:24] <cedric_> soundray pouhahahaha yah right!!!!!!
[09:24] <brianj> cedric_ distrowatch.com seems to suggest that's the case.
[09:24] <cedric_> nice one
[09:24] <cedric_> how may i contribute
[09:25] <Vincent> hi, I have installed french language, with language selector, but how can I switch the translations and writing aids ?
[09:26] <joft> is there any way to let ubuntu autodetect hardware, instead of me having to configure xorg?
[09:26] <Seveas> joft, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <joft> i did that, it's not automatic; it asks me a bunch of questions
[09:27] <joft> questions that i don't know the answers to :(
[09:27] <soundray> earthen, looks right to me. Is swat still uninstallable?
[09:27] <Seveas> joft, just take the defaults
[09:27] <asonjay99> can anyone help me with mplayer and the w32 does or w/e it is
[09:27] <Seveas> the defaults are what is auto-detected :)
[09:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell asonjay99 about mplayer
[09:27] <Jeffreyf> I tried the latest Debian and am having difficulties with the S3 Trio3D in my IBM 300GL.  It isn't supported by debian, but will it work with Ubuntu?
[09:28] <linux-new-ss> i just installed ubuntu while installin it asked me to make a user and i did, but i dont remember it asked me for a root password, when i log as user it works when i log as root i can not
[09:29] <_jason> ubotu, tell linux-new-ss about root
[09:29] <mark__> root account is disabled, use sudo to run commands as root
[09:29] <mark__> or sudo su -
[09:29] <EdZ> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu 2.10. I've got as far as re-booting after installation, but starting up ubuntu after install there is a problem. I recieve the error "sh can't access tty; job control turned off". The live CD boots fine. (I'm installing to a second HDD, with windows on the first. using LILO as a bootloader)
[09:29] <earthen> soundray, yeah says swat not avalable
[09:29] <valentina> my msn doesnt work, what should i do?
[09:29] <earthen> soundray, are you sure that there is a version for 64 bit
[09:29] <soundray> Jeffreyf, you're likely to have the same trouble here and there.
[09:30] <Ueuecoyotl> valentina, what you _should_ do is start using Jabber instead but that's probably not what you _want_ :)
[09:30] <soundray> earthen, I just installed it here on amd64
[09:30] <cedric_> anyways have a great day,, *ubuntu owns!
[09:31] <Jeffreyf> soundray:  I had it working at one point, but can't this time around.
[09:31] <Octane> im getting really hard crashes on my Kubuntu 5.10 and I think its because of an hdd with errors... whats the best way to check for? fsck -f when its read only?
[09:31] <soundray> Jeffreyf, tried both s3 and s3v drivers?
[09:32] <Zedugh> Jeffreyf, the question is whether or not Xorg supports S3 Trio3D, look at http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/
[09:32] <Blondewithbrains> hi alll
[09:32] <linux-new-ss> how do i make my pppoe to work guys
[09:32] <Zedugh> jeffreyf, look under s3virge
[09:33] <d03boy> is anyone else having major problems with the forums?
[09:34] <shadeofgrey> whats the KDE equivelant to Totem?
[09:34] <linux-new-ss> how do i make my pppoe to work guys
[09:34] <d03boy> a) I cant log in and b) When I try to reset my password it says that I submitted my request more than 24 hours ago when it was only seconds ago
[09:34] <earthen> soundray,  ok I found it on my install cd
[09:34] <earthen> soundray, I don't know why it's not picking it up off the new repo's
[09:34] <Jeffreyf> Zedugh:  I think this is the version I actually got to work.  It says it is supported.  Thanks!
[09:35] <soundray> earthen, is this the only package you have trouble with?
[09:35] <dandelion> hello
[09:35] <linux-new-ss> any help for me folks
[09:35] <zdennis> hey all
[09:36] <zdennis> i am trying to upgrade to the linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7
[09:36] <zdennis> but it continually fails
[09:36] <zdennis> where should i start looking for failure poitns?
[09:36] <carsten> okay, everytime i start konqueror, after some seconds, my screen looks like http://www.carstenpohl.de/screenshot52AkVa.png
[09:36] <dandelion> is it normal that neither .bashrc or .bash_profile nor .profile are sourced at gnome startup? They are sourced when you open a terminal, but gnome menus for instance can't make use of the updates $PATH... Am I missing something?
[09:36] <Stormx2> carsten: wow
[09:37] <carsten> i tried all different fonts in the konsole, but there was no problem at all.
[09:37] <earthen> never checked the others
[09:37] <Stormx2> carsten: X doesn't like you >.>
[09:37] <carsten> the funny thing is: everything else works. after i start konqueror.... CRASH
[09:37] <IRCMonkey999> the time in my system tray doesn't display a.m or p.m even in the 12 hr mode.... why?
[09:37] <carsten> is there any log i could check? to give you guys more info?
[09:37] <earthen> soundray, I never look for anything else today but befoer it was working fine na dit just downloaded some updates about 15 min's ago
[09:37] <mcadory> zdennis: how are you updating?
[09:38] <soundray> dandelion, that is entirely normal.
[09:38] <dandelion> soundray: so how do I change my PATH in a way that gnome menus can understand?
[09:38] <recon0> does anyone know how to run sshd?
[09:38] <zdennis> mcadory, "sudo apt-get install linux-image-yada yada yada"
[09:38] <dandelion> soundray: is there some kind of .gnomerc ?
[09:38] <JDahl> carsten, are you using restricted video drivers?
[09:38] <zdennis> recon0, when you install the ssh server, it starts sshd up at boot time
[09:39] <carsten> JDahl:  how can i check that?
[09:39] <recon0> zdennis, is there any way to start it manually?
[09:39] <ppatrice> how i edit xorg.conf?
[09:39] <zdennis> recon0, if you want to start manually or restart then from a terminal you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[09:39] <ppatrice> !tell ppatrice about ati
[09:39] <zdennis> or use "restart" or "stop" in place of "start" if you want
[09:39] <recon0> ok
[09:40] <JDahl> carsten, probably you are not, then... you have to install them yourself.
[09:40] <soundray> dandelion, sorry, never come across this problem.
[09:40] <carsten> JDahl: its a normal Kubuntu 5.10 install 12 hrs. old. from the official DVD image
[09:41] <carsten> i just found out, that adept, and resizing adept results in the same error
[09:41] <zdennis> carsten, you can strace konqueror and maybe that will help you figur eout while it is crashing
[09:41] <ppatrice> soundray tell ubotu to say the site again
[09:41] <carsten> i have an geforce 6600GT PCI-X card. could that be the problem?
[09:41] <ppatrice> please
[09:41] <soundray> !tell ppatrice about ati
[09:41] <carsten> zdennis: how do i do that?
[09:42] <marlun> Can windows and linux exchange files through a fat32 partition?
[09:42] <Stormx2> ppatrice: /msg ubotu <word>
[09:42] <zdennis> carsten, from terminal run "strace konqueror 2> log.txt"
[09:42] <soundray> ppatrice, you can enter the same command yourself
[09:42] <Stormx2> marlun: yup
[09:42] <ppatrice> thanks
[09:42] <BadMackTuck> good day all
[09:42] <zdennis> carsten after it freezes, reboot, or kill X, and then run tail on the log.txt file from terminal
[09:42] <Stormx2> BadMackTuck: g'day mate
[09:42] <ppatrice> and how  edit xorg.conf
[09:42] <ppatrice> the command
[09:42] <zdennis> carsten, like "tail log.txt"
[09:42] <ppatrice> to open ?
[09:42] <Stormx2> !xorg
[09:42] <ubotu> methinks xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:42] <nubs0r> Can anyone direct me to their sources.list?
[09:42] <zdennis> then print the last few lines you see in here
[09:42] <nubs0r> i screwed mine up by accident
[09:42] <marlun> Stormx2, I've got 2 harddrives, I've got windows on hda and linux on hdb, I've got a 10GB Fat32 partition on hda, how can I access it through linux?
[09:42] <zdennis> nubs0r, sure give me one sec to post them
[09:43] <zdennis> nubs0r, you running breezy ?
[09:43] <JDahl> carsten, I had similar problems with a geforce 6200 card. They came as the result of one upgrade, and disappeared with a new one a few days later. Have you done security updates/upgrades yet?
[09:43] <Stormx2> !tell marlun about windowsdrives
[09:43] <Stormx2> marlun: Check your messages from ubotu
[09:43] <carsten> zdennis:  sorry, i have to restart x, the screen just is broken
[09:43] <nubs0r> zdennis, yes i am
[09:43] <ppatrice> Stormx2 not like that
[09:43] <marlun> Stormx2, thanks :)
[09:43] <nubs0r> zdennis, i tried to get one that had the marillate reps to get mplayer, cuz ic oudlnt find mplayer in the direct one
[09:43] <carsten> JDahl:  security upgrades ? no its a fresh kubuntu 5.10 install
[09:44] <ppatrice> like in text
[09:44] <carsten> how can i update my video driver?
[09:44] <nubs0r> carsten, what chip do u have?
[09:44] <joft> well, now i can boot and get to the command prompt, but x still doesn't work, even after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:44] <ppatrice> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#configure
[09:44] <carsten> nubs0r: geforce 6600GT
[09:44] <JDahl> carsten, that CD was pressed a while ago... subsequent critical errors are upgraded with security upgrades
[09:45] <nubs0r> carsten, is therea  need to update? does 3d acceleration work fine?
[09:45] <ppatrice> i dont have that  /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
[09:45] <carsten> JDahl:  i downloaded the dvd from the server yesterday
[09:45] <zdennis> nubs0r, http://blog.mktec.com/zdennis/linux/ubuntu_breezy_basic_sources_dot_list.rdoc
[09:45] <carsten> nubs0r: my screen looks like http://www.carstenpohl.de/screenshot52AkVa.png after some minutes
[09:46] <BadMackTuck> you can get the nvidia drivers direct from the repository
[09:46] <BadMackTuck> that was how i did it the other day
[09:46] <zdennis> carsten, you have a nvidia card?
[09:46] <nubs0r> zdennis, thanks
[09:46] <JDahl> carsten, the binary images were frozen on release date - upgrades are incremental over the internet
[09:46] <zdennis> nubs0r, np
[09:46] <BadMackTuck> im trying to remember the last command...
[09:46] <carsten> zdennis:  yes i have an geforce 6600 GT
[09:47] <ppatrice> how can i edit xorg.conf adding http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#configure
[09:47] <ppatrice> ??
[09:47] <carsten> JDahl:  what do i have to do to upgrade?
[09:47] <zdennis> ah, I have a geforce 5200 fx, do you want to try to install the nvidia binaries from their site?
[09:47] <Ethan> ubot, realplayer?
[09:47] <medw1974> Hi...can anyone help...I'm trying to install ubuntu but my ide controller doesnt seem to be supported...is there anyway I can load a module at install without a floppy?
[09:47] <JDahl> carsten, use "synaptic" somewhere from the menus, enable "security updates", and upgrade
[09:48] <LjL> !realplayer
[09:48] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:48] <Ethan> :D
[09:48] <zdennis> ppatrice, you are just asking how to open your xorg.conf file so you can edit it?
[09:48] <carsten> zdennis: the log file is 2,6 MB in size !
[09:48] <zdennis> carsten, yeah, that's why you tail it =) so you don't have to let your screen scroll for hours
[09:48] <gar-> hi can any one help me try to setup the DWL-G122 usb wireless adapter on ubuntu i can see the device but noting on the network part can anyone know???
[09:48] <ppatrice> zdennis yes
[09:49] <minyaliel> Anyone know if it's possible to tweak the look of the gnome panel? Grey doesn't go with the rest of my black/ reddish theme :P
[09:49] <zdennis> ppatrice, open a terminal, and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak ; sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:49] <joft> ok, when I used "nvidia-glx-config enable" it makes it so my computer completely freezes when it tries to load X. if i do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it still can't load X but it doesn't freeze at least
[09:49] <zdennis> that way if you screw it up you have a backup to
[09:50] <ppatrice> yes thanks but can't be gedit... because i can't use that
[09:50] <gar-> anyone know how to setup the d-link DWLG122 USB wireless adapter please let me know thanks....
[09:50] <ppatrice> i got problems with ATI drivers
[09:50] <LjL> ppatrice: nano or whatever will do
[09:50] <zdennis> ppatrice, ok , repalce "gedit" with "nano"
[09:50] <nubs0r> ppatrice, me too man
[09:50] <Weng> Okay, so I'm setting up a preseed configuration file for network installation. This means that everything in that configuration file pertaining to the network is ignored and that all my settings have to be conveyed either via DHCP or a kernel APPEND item in syslinux. However, I'm hitting two relatively annoying problems. It still asks me to confirm the hostname provided by DHCP, and it keeps complaining that it can't find a default route, 
[09:50] <ppatrice> kay thanks
[09:50] <nubs0r> I get problems when i replace radeon in xorg.conf with fglrx
[09:50] <robotgeek> gar-: i think you might need to use ndiswrapper
[09:50] <nubs0r> X doesnt even boot it just hangs
[09:50] <gar-> i try but dont install get some nasty error
[09:50] <carsten> JDahl: i cant find synaptic, did you men "adept"?
[09:51] <gar-> i can see the devices
[09:51] <linux-new-ss> how do u edit resolv.conf is it edit resolv.conf or how
[09:51] <gar-> device of the usb wireless but notting come up
[09:51] <zdennis> carsten, in Gnome synaptic is at "System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[09:51] <warty> im trying to do some rescueing from my ubuntu live cd. I wanted to know how i can mount my scsi drive that has a windows partition to a folder i made (/windows)?
[09:51] <LjL> linux-new-ss: "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" or "sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf" or "sudo kate /etc/resolv.conf"
[09:51] <carsten> zdennis: oh , i see the problem i have KDE here.
[09:51] <zdennis> oh ,heh
[09:51] <JDahl> carsten, oh yeah - you're using KDE - then I dont know. I normally use the command line anyway, but that'll probably be hard for you
[09:51] <darkgamer20> im trying to do some rescueing from my ubuntu live cd. I wanted to know how i can mount my scsi drive that has a windows partition to a folder i made (/windows)?
[09:52] <zdennis> carsten, r u running Ubuntu with KDE , or Kubuntu?
[09:52] <carsten> zdennis: Kubunut
[09:52] <LjL> not that there would really be a difference...
[09:52] <zdennis> carsten, what does "tail log.txt" look like?
[09:52] <LjL> darkgamer20: sudo mount [-t ntfs]  /dev/hdXX /mnt/somewhere
[09:53] <linux-new-ss> to fire up pppoe i just do pppoeconf LjL ?
[09:53] <LjL> darkgamer20: or, being SCSI, it will more likely be /dev/sdsomething or somesuch
[09:53] <marlun> What is tha package I need to add the menuitem "Disks" in "System > Administration > Disks"?
[09:53] <darkgamer20> LjL, thanks
[09:53] <minyaliel> anybody know how to tweak the gnome panel? *still hopeful*
[09:53] <LjL> linux-new-ss: no idea, i'm not using pppoe
[09:53] <gar-> im running ubuntu 5.04 want to update but without network i cant i have a dlink DWL-g122 usb adapter for wireless connection the system detect and i can see it on the devices but it wound start or even the light come up any idea how to fix that????
[09:53] <moiReee> hey, what about the mirrors? i get for several packages a 404 not found error
[09:53] <zdennis> darkgamer20, look at your dmesg, to see what drives it recognized that will help you figure out what /dev/sd<something> to look for
[09:54] <zdennis> minyaliel, i dont know
[09:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gar- about ndiswrapper
[09:54] <carsten> zdennis: i think it is not broken it is not the kkkonquerors fault i think
[09:54] <minyaliel> dangit :P well ok
[09:54] <zdennis> ok , that probably is true, i just looked at your screenshot you postd above
[09:54] <bubblenut> I recently upgraded to breezy and now I can't watch video, what do I have to do to solve this?
[09:54] <carsten> zdennis: every window that i move produces that error
[09:54] <gfish> how do i get it so i can use xmms and sound at the same time
[09:54] <IRCMonkey999> i cant see am/pm in my gnome system tray clock . :(
[09:55] <JDahl> bubblenut, probably install gstreamer0.8-xxx
[09:55] <zdennis> carsten, are you using Ubuntu stock nv drivers or did you compile your own nvidia drivers?
[09:55] <darkgamer20> zdennis: thanks, dmesg looks very long.
[09:55] <carsten> zdennis: stock drivers. i didnt change anything. a fresh install
[09:55] <IRCMonkey999> what is the best download manager for firefox+flashgot on ubuntu?
[09:56] <Octane> im getting really hard crashes on my Kubuntu 5.10 and I think its because of an hdd with errors... whats the best way to check for? fsck -f when its read only?
[09:56] <zdennis> carsten, one monitor, or multiple monitor setuP/
[09:56] <darkgamer20> LjL, one problem. when i mount it to a directory, i try to cd to it, and it shows that permission is denied
[09:57] <zdennis> darkgamer20, it is =)
[09:57] <LjL> darkgamer20: that's normal, if you're using ntfs. either read it as root, or do what ubotu says
[09:57] <LjL> !tell darkgamer20 about ntfs
[09:57] <zdennis> darkgamer20, write support is experimental, and ifyou dont have it enabled in your kernel, then it will be readonly
[09:57] <carsten> zdennis: one analoge monitor, but the card has an anlogue and an dvi jack
[09:58] <zdennis> carsten, ok. Just wanted to rule out any multiple monitor configuration issues
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[09:59] (LjL/#ubuntu) darkgamer20: "sudo nautilus /mnt/windows" (or whatever you've mounted it to) or "sudo konqueror /mnt/windows" might be useful
[09:59] (zdennis/#ubuntu) darkgamer20, you can enable root access if you want, by doing a 'sudo passwd' and then typing in a password, then just 'su' to get to root. If you dont want to type "sudo" everytime
[09:59] (osh/#ubuntu) moiReee: Yes, there is a default gateway I think. "route" displays something called "default" anyway.
[09:59] (ppatrice/#ubuntu) zdennis how i savw now? ctrl*o
[09:59] (ppatrice/#ubuntu) ?
[10:00] (zdennis/#ubuntu) darkgamer20, normally i wouldn't say that, but since you're boo t on a live cd it tis probably ok
[10:00] (LjL/#ubuntu) zdennis: that's quite useless, as there's no reason to have to type "sudo" everytime
[10:00] (carsten/#ubuntu) ii  nvidia-kernel-common                  1.0.7667+1                         NVI                                           DIA binary kernel module common files
[10:00] (LjL/#ubuntu) zdennis: just type "sudo -i"
[10:00] (moiReee/#ubuntu) osh: no, there must be an extra route to localhost
[10:00] (zdennis/#ubuntu) ppatrice, yep, Ctrl-o to save and Ctrl-x to exit
[10:00] (ppatrice/#ubuntu) yes i did t
[10:00] (osh/#ubuntu) moiReee: Ah. "route add -net 127.0.0.0 eth0"?
[10:00] (LjL/#ubuntu) darkgamer20: type "sudo -i" if you want to stay root
[10:00] (zdennis/#ubuntu) i didn't know about 'i'. It isn't in my man page. =(
[10:00] (ppatrice/#ubuntu) now stop and restart X server
[10:00] (ppatrice/#ubuntu) can you tell me how?
[10:00] (LjL/#ubuntu) zdennis: "sudo su" would be similar
[10:00] (zdennis/#ubuntu) oh wait LjL , it is
[10:01] <zdennis> very cool LjL, thx for that tip, that is going to save me some typing =)
[10:01] <darkgamer20> LjL and zdennis: i got it all i had to do was mount the partition with ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000. thanks you for you time and help
[10:01] <ppatrice> zdennis ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x server right?
[10:01] <zdennis> ppatrice, yeah
[10:01] <carsten> zdennis: nvidia-kernel-common
[10:01] <moiReee> osh: do you have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for lo?
[10:02] <osh> moiReee: Erm... but looking at another box there isn't a route for "localhost".
[10:02] <LjL> zdennis: also look in ~/.bashrc, you will find some stuff that's commented out there, that can (among other things) enable auto-completion after "sudo" has been typed
[10:02] <JairunCaloth> I need to give my self acces to a secondary hdd on my system
[10:02] <zdennis> carsten, try to install nvidia-glx package
[10:02] <shadeofgrey> whats the KDE equivelant of totem?
[10:02] <shadeofgrey> the movie player?
[10:02] <moiReee> osh: forget about the route, my fault, look at /etc/network/interfaces
[10:02] <LjL> shadeofgrey: kaffeine, in kubuntu
[10:02] <EdZ> I'm having a problem running Ubuntu 2.10 after installing. I can install it fine, but after removing the disc and re-booting, It starts to load but I then recieve the message:
[10:02] <EdZ> sh can't acces tty; job control turned off
[10:02] <EdZ> I've tried with the live CD (both x86, both 2.10), and the live CD boots fine. Ubuntu is installed on a second drive (totally separate, not just a partition) with windows on the first drive. with LILO as the bootloader, installed to the same drive as Ubuntu (I'm wary of putting GRUB or LILO onto the same drive as windows, and last time i tried that it caused some big problems with the MBR).
[10:02] <carsten> zdennis: i am currently updating kubuntu in a second console, will that interfere?
[10:02] <moiReee> zdennis: this package i can not upgrade from the ubuntu repos
[10:03] <zdennis> carsten yeah you'll have to wait
[10:03] <osh> moiReee: What am I looking for in "interfaces"?
[10:03] <moiReee> osh: there must be entries for lo (localhost)
[10:03] <moiReee> or try ifconfig
[10:03] <zdennis> moiree, you lost me for a sec.... what package can't you upgrade?
[10:04] <moiReee> zdennis: nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-... and some more
[10:04] <TokenBad> ok someone help me with proftpd?
[10:04] <zdennis> carsten, with nvidia, i find that the steps of getting X to be good, is "try stock drivers, try nvidia-glx, try nvidia-glx-legacy, compile your own binary"
[10:04] <moiReee> linux-386, linux-686 etc
[10:04] <osh> moiReee: there is an entry for lo. 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
[10:04] <carsten> zdennis: but could you please tell me what command i have to enter for updateing to nvidia-glx ?
[10:05] <zdennis> carsten, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[10:05] <carsten> zdennis: is it correct that i currently use "stock drivers"?
[10:05] <zdennis> carsten, yeah
[10:05] <moiReee> osh: loopback?
[10:05] <zdennis> moiReee, what does it say when you try to install nvidia-glx ?
[10:05] <janopotter> holas
[10:05] <osh> moiReee: Yep.
[10:06] <moiReee> zdennis: it is installed, aptitude wants to upgrade this, but i get a 404 not found error
[10:06] <marsh> Anyone have usb2 issues? ubuntu was installed with the card in the machine, but it's very slow. how do I find out if it's running as a usb1?
[10:06] <janopotter> join #arica
[10:06] <dv_> hi
[10:06] <rixth> Bargh. Maths exam today,
[10:06] <dv_> I called "apt-get install qt3-examples"
[10:06] <dv_> but now it doesnt tell me where the examples are?!
[10:06] <dv_> how can I find this out?
[10:06] <dv_> apt-cache show qt3-examples says nothing
[10:06] <TokenBad> I installed proftpd...but its acting like inetd isn't installed nor xinetd...and it says can't start in standalone..anyone help?
[10:06] <moiReee> osh: what does traceroute localhost say?
[10:06] <gfish> how do i use xmms and sounds at once
[10:07] <LjL> dv_: dpkg -L qt3-examples
[10:07] <dv_> in doc?!
[10:07] <dv_> how counter-intuitive..
[10:07] <dv_> but thanks
[10:07] <janopotter> sorry always spak in english
[10:07] <osh> moiReee: That it goes out to my default gateway, and stops there.
[10:08] <zdennis> moiReee, some repositories in your sources.list file may not be up at the moment. Have you added custom repositories?
[10:08] <moiReee> osh: is your subnet mask correct?
[10:08] <osh> moiReee: on loopback it's 255.0.0.0 on wlan0 it's 255.255.255.0
[10:08] <ppatrice> zdennis finaly i entered in ubuntu
[10:08] <moiReee> zdennis: no
[10:09] <joft> for a dell laptop should I use nvidia IA64 or AMD64 drivers?
[10:09] <ppatrice> put my pass and doesn't pass from there
[10:09] <ppatrice> lol
[10:09] <marlun> Is there a way to see what partitions I've got on my hda from the terminal?
[10:09] <kevogod> joft, It is most certainly not IA64.
[10:09] <zdennis> ppatrice, so it worked?
[10:09] <moiReee> osh: check your route entries
[10:09] <zdennis> ppatrice, how you wanted it to?
[10:10] <osh> 192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan0
[10:10] <osh> default         192.168.0.50    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[10:10] <carsten> zdennis: thanks for the help, i will reboot now. hope to be right back
[10:10] <kevogod> joft, Are you sure your Dell laptop is 64-bit?
[10:10] <moiReee> zdennis: i am using the ubuntu mirrors, debian and artfiles.org
[10:10] <joft> no
[10:10] <phin3as> osh, is there a problem?
[10:10] <luisito> nalioth, thanks for the dvdrip, it worked excellent! :D
[10:10] <ppatrice> i entered... i never entered in linux in this pc because says it can't open the graphic interface... now that i resolve that problem it doesn't enter in linux..  put my pass but and than it stay there... only see the mouse coursor
[10:11] <kevogod> joft, You most likely want the i386 version.
[10:11] <NoUse> moiReee, you shouldn't mix debian and ubuntu mirrors
[10:11] <osh> phin3as: I can't ping localhost. It goes out to my default gateway and doesn't find 127.0.0.1 there (obviously).
[10:11] <LjL> moiReee: you shouldn't USE debian mirrors, unless you know what you're doing extremely well
[10:11] <kevogod> joft, PC (Intel x86) install CD
[10:11] <janopotter> hi
[10:11] <BadMackTuck> hi janopotter
[10:11] <moiReee> LjL: hmmmkey, i will remove them
[10:11] <joft> so I should get the IA32 driver?
[10:12] <phin3as> osh, what sort of connection are you on?
[10:12] <janopotter> you spak spanish
[10:12] <TokenBad> anyone please help me with proftpd? or at least tell me how to get it to at least register inetd or xinetd?
[10:12] <kevogod> joft, Most likely
[10:12] <zdennis> ppatrice, you just see a gray background and your mouse pointer?
[10:12] <davro> How can i get a remote desktop X session to another ubuntu machine, not vnc
[10:12] <osh> phin3as: wireless. on this laptop.
[10:13] <BadMackTuck> janopotter: sorry no spanish from me
[10:13] [Pygi(n=chatzill@83-131-246-91.adsl.net.t-com.hr)]  hi
[10:13] <janopotter> oh thank
[10:13] <LjL> !es
[10:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:13] <janopotter> gracias
[10:13] <ppatrice> zdennis yes... ubuntu brown background and my mouse
[10:13] <zdennis> joft, yes you want the IA32 drivers
[10:13] <ppatrice> but i got an ideia
[10:14] <zdennis> ppatrice, k, let me know if it works then let me know what your idea was =)
[10:14] <phin3as> osh, I can't help you. I've never used a wireless connection, I'd however advise you to go http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/wifi
[10:14] <ppatrice> zdennis i installed this from one program called "instlux" from network mode...
[10:14] <zdennis> ppatrice, so i can make note of it in case anyone else has similar issue
[10:14] <moiReee> LjL: no, debian servers removed but erros still existent
[10:14] <ubuntu_> hay alguien que hable espaol
[10:14] <LjL> moiReee: i didn't follow what was happening, dunno about the error
[10:14] <LjL> !es
[10:14] <_jason> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:14] <janopotter> yo
[10:15] <osh> phin3as: That shouldn't matter though. And the most annoying thing is that it worked a few days ago. :-/
[10:15] <sabmann>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:15] <ubuntu_> a vale
[10:15] <osh> 192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan0
[10:15] <osh> default         192.168.0.50    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[10:15] <phin3as> osh, oh.
[10:15] <osh> Crap. Sorry.
[10:15] <ubuntu_> me podrias ayudar
[10:15] <moiReee> LjL: aptitude upgrade for several packages delivers 404 not found
[10:15] <Seveas> !es
[10:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:15] <sabmann>  /msg nickserv link sabmann ouwe_ballenlap
[10:15] <_jason> ubuntu_, /join #ubuntu-es <-----habla espanol
[10:15] <LjL> moiReee: did you "sudo aptitude update" first?
[10:15] <Seveas> sabmann, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[10:15] <moiReee> LjL: several times :D
[10:16] <phin3as> osh, I wouldn't want to misdirect you. I've never run a wireless connection before.
[10:16] <Seveas> moiReee, sudo aptitude update
[10:16] <janopotter> ubuntu_ cambia a#ubuntu-es
[10:16] <osh> I might have done something stupid. I removed the hostname part from /etc/hosts so now sudo won't work. Is there some way to fix that without rebooting with the live-cd.
[10:16] <LjL> moiReee: can you put your sources.list into the pastebin?
[10:16] <moiReee> LjL: bad idea, i have only console at the moment ;)
[10:16] <Seveas> osh, reboot into recovery mode
[10:16] <ubuntu_> bueno como se hace es la primera vez que ultilizo linux
[10:16] <LjL> moiReee: can you paste it to #flood then?
[10:16] <Seveas> ubuntu_, this is an english channel
[10:16] <Seveas> !es
[10:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:16] <osh> phin3as: Right. Thanks anyway.
[10:16] <moiReee> LjL: and i use my own apt-proxy too
[10:17] <carsten> sudo apt-get nvidia-glx doesnt work
[10:17] <LjL> ubuntu_, se hace escribiendo "/join #ubuntu-es"
[10:17] <osh> Seveas: That's on the install-cd?
[10:17] <phin3as> osh, possibly a reinstallation might do the trick?
[10:17] <Seveas> osh, on the installed system
[10:17] <ubuntu_> gracias
[10:17] <moiReee> LjL: i will try with #flood
[10:17] <phin3as> osh, considering you think you did something you should'nt have.
[10:17] <BadMackTuck> carsten: its sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:17] <Seveas> phin3as, reinstalling is too windows-minden :)
[10:17] <osh> Seveas: Oh, I'll have to test that now then. :-)
[10:17] <moiReee> but apt-proxy.conf
[10:17] <LjL> moiReee: oh you're using apt-proxy?
[10:17] <moiReee> yes
[10:17] <Seveas> osh, good luck :)
[10:18] <ubuntu_> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[10:18] <carsten> BadMackTuck: thank you
[10:18] <phin3as> Seveas, while that is true, it usually helps once in awhile :)
[10:18] <n0dl>  help... how do i close a frozen program in XFCE or in term!
[10:18] <phin3as> Seveas, well it's more like "gentoo" minded. :p
[10:18] <BadMackTuck> no problem carsten
[10:18] <osh> phin3as: I won't reinstall stuff I can fix. That's a windows solution. This is fixable. That's what I love about Linux. It's not always simple but it's (almost) always logical.
[10:18] <LjL> moiReee: well then test all your reps using a web browser... if none 404, then you probably have an apt-proxy problem
[10:19] <phin3as> osh, you haven't run gentoo I suppose :p
[10:19] <n0dl> wo;; somebody help me?
[10:19] <Seveas> phin3as, gentoo is almost as bad as windows
[10:19] <Cole> osh: if you want to do somethign that requires root access. but you screwed up sudo.. you have to boot off of something else.. mount the hard drive.. and then change the file
[10:19] <osh> phin3as: Yes, why do you ask. I got tired of it though.
[10:19] <LjL> Seveas: pffff
[10:19] <carsten> i have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common installed. which one will be used?
[10:19] <n0dl> DOES anyone know?
[10:19] <Zeep> Okay, my problem: At the place where I am now, there is no possibility of accessing the WWW at this time (I guess port 80 is locked down). Is there any possibility to get around this? thanks
[10:20] <moiReee> re
[10:20] <moiReee> LjL: i have posted to flood
[10:20] <Seveas> n0dl, open a new terminal and use xkill
[10:20] <zdennis> carsten, oops...sorry about that.... my mind skips words sometimes
[10:20] <phin3as> osh, the reinstallations and the compiling takes a whole lot out of you. Ubuntu has to be one of the most stable distro's in the market.
[10:20] <Zedugh> n0dl, look around (in menus) for a pgm named xkill, or if you don't find it, open another term and type xkill, then your mouse cursor will change, whatever window you place the mouse cursor on, then right click, will be killed
[10:20] <Seveas> moiReee, don't IRC as root
[10:20] <topyli> Cole: no. you can always boot to init1, ie. single user mode, ie. what ubuntu calls "rescue mode" with grub
[10:20] <phin3as> Seveas, do you run any other distros?
[10:20] <Seveas> phin3as, yes, amongst which gentoo :)
[10:21] <carsten> zdennis: no problem, but it looks like i hve both drivers installed now (twice the ii symbol) which one will be used?
[10:21] <Zedugh> n0dl, oops, i meant left click
[10:21] <phin3as> Seveas, :)
[10:21] <Stormx2> Seveas: lol ;-)
[10:21] <n0dl> err... i accidently killed one of my panels
[10:21] <Cole> topyli: lol i've neverused it. it doesn't require any password?
[10:21] <joft> where's the error log for xorg?
[10:21] <n0dl> how do i restore it? (XFCE)
[10:21] <zdennis> carsten, that's ok. give X a shot
[10:21] <ox> hi can anyone point me in the right direction? I have a dell inspiron 5100 with radeon 7500 graphic card, 15in xga display - I want 1400x1050 res and I can only get 1056X768 res.
[10:22] <phin3as> Seveas, other than ubuntu and gentoo, which others? out of curiousity.
[10:22] <Zedugh> n0dl, try logging out and back in
[10:22] <carsten> zdennis: okay, thanks for the help, i will restart again
[10:22] <Seveas> phin3as, FC4 at work (used to be red hat) and debian
[10:22] <moiReee> LjL?
[10:22] <topyli> Cole: it doesn't. if you have physical access to a linux box, you can take over very easily
[10:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ox about fixres
[10:22] <LjL> moiReee: i'm not sure how apt-proxy works, but why do you have "ubuntu", "ubuntu-security" etc instead of "breezy", "breezy-security" etc? maybe they've valid synonyms, but i've never heard them before
[10:22] <phin3as> Seveas, :) that's satisfactory.
[10:22] <tesoro> :)
[10:23] <huhmz> Hi. btlaunchmany complains "Too many open files", i google it and it suggested one should increase the number in /proc/sys/fs/file-max. However, i have done this but it still complains. What can I do?
[10:23] <Seveas> and a mini busybox-linux-uclibc setup in a router
[10:23] <moiReee> LjL: they are only identifiers for sources.list
[10:23] <phin3as> I'm going to have to aquire dapper. I'm still running hoary..
[10:23] <phin3as> I'm thinking of making a distro eventually.
[10:23] <moiReee> LjL: and it worked fine just to this upgrade today ...
[10:23] <Cole> topyli: i knew if you coudl boot off of soemthing else.. i guess i'm just so used to solaris where you can somewhat secure the box even if they have physical access.. making it so that it requires a password to boot off of anything but the main disk.. and single user mode requires you to log in
[10:23] <Stormx2> phin3as: Dapper is a little too unstable at the moment methinks
[10:23] <zdennis> is anyone here running linux-image 2.6.12-9-k7 ?
[10:24] <Seveas> Stormx2, he's a gentooist
[10:24] <Seveas> he loves unstable
[10:24] <phin3as> Hah
[10:24] <Stormx2> Seveas: hahaha
[10:24] <zdennis> i take that back, is anyone running linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7 ?
[10:24] <LjL> moiReee: oh well, i dunno... the reps seem all perfectly valid at a quick look... why don't you trying without apt-proxy?
[10:24] <topyli> Cole: you can configure grub to require a password. but who does? :-
[10:24] <LjL> zdennis: yes
[10:24] <Seveas> zdennis, I should be, but that machine is not yet upgraded :)
[10:24] <ppatrice> zdennis i'm trying to download package GNOME with APTITUDE
[10:24] <joft> since I upgraded to breezy, x window
[10:24] <joft> s does not work
[10:24] <Stormx2> ubuntu takes all the fun out of linux ;-)
[10:24] <fsmw> hi all!
[10:25] <phin3as> Stormx2, surely you jest.
[10:25] <fsmw> is there a howto to setup an ubuntu mirror?
[10:25] <Seveas> Stormx2, s/takes out/brings in/
[10:25] <joft> i have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i have tried reinstalling the latest nvidia drivers
[10:25] <topyli> Stormx2: lol
[10:25] <Seveas> fsmw, ubuntu.com/download/mirror
[10:25] <zdennis> LjL, any issues upgrading to the 2.6.12-10-k7 package? I'm having difficulty upgrading.... i seem to have a circular dependency issue with linux-image-k7
[10:25] <BadMackTuck> joft: do you have the dri line in your xorg.conf file commented out?
[10:25] <Stormx2> Seveas: Whats with the s/something/something/ ?
[10:25] <zdennis> dpkg says the one depends on the other, but i can't install either because of that
[10:25] <fsmw> thanks Seveas
[10:25] <moiReee> LjL: in sources.list, there it is only used the ubuntu backend
[10:25] <Cole> topyli: i guess im just a security nazi.. as i work in government.. and some of the security postures are a little tight.. right now i'm working on a set of scripts to try and make ubuntu compatible with the disa security template impementation guideless for unix/linux
[10:25] <Stormx2> Seveas: That one of the crazy irc things?
[10:25] <LjL> zdennis: no, i didn't have any special difficulty with it, but i do know others were having that sort of difficulties
[10:25] <joft> BadMackTuck: yes
[10:25] <Seveas> it means replace 'take out' with 'put in'
[10:26] <Stormx2> ah ok
[10:26] <Seveas> Stormx2, it's a regular expression thingie
[10:26] <shutdownrunner> Stormx2: gentoo is fun when you have more than 1 computer and don't have to use it for about 24 hours
[10:26] <huhmz> Where does one change the default ulimits?
[10:26] <Seveas> learn sed/perl :)
[10:26] <phin3as> Seveas, I'd like to ask, how does one become an ubuntu developer, or member?
[10:26] <Cole> topyli: err guidelines not guideless
[10:26] <Seveas> phin3as, ubuntu.com/community/contribute
[10:26] <zdennis> Seveas, learn sed... and if you want to remain sane, learn ruby
[10:26] <Seveas> zdennis, ruby and sane?
[10:26] <carsten> zdennis: i think all is fine now ! thank you really for your help. that is really appreciated
[10:26] <topyli> Cole: if someone gets into my house, they could either crack the machine by booting to init 1, or by booting knoppix. what's the difference?
[10:26] <LjL> moiReee: i don't know, really, it smells like an apt-proxy problem, and i never used it
[10:26] <Seveas> i'd say python comes closer :)
[10:26] <phin3as> Seveas, thanks.
[10:27] <zdennis> carsten, np, i'm glad things are working!
[10:27] <Stormx2> I mean i've run FC4, but ubuntu is something else. Theres no fun in not sitting there wondering why the hell something isn't working! Ubuntu is linux with all the differculty taken out + a hostile takeover of gnome-look.org!
[10:27] <moiReee> LjL: ok
[10:27] <Zedugh> joft, do you have 'Option          "RenderAccel"   "false"' in xorg.conf driver section?
[10:27] <Seveas> Stormx2, isn't it great :))
[10:27] <Cole> topyli: make it so that they can't boot off of anything but the preconfigured harddrive.. any changes to boot sequense require password.. plus use locks on your case
[10:27] <stevio> can some one tell me how to delete directories in the terminal
[10:27] <zdennis> Seveas, sane as in sanity...where your mind stays in tact
[10:27] <Stormx2> Seveas: Have you looked at that site?! about 90% of the new wallpapers submitted have ubuntu written on them!
[10:27] <Seveas> stevio, rmdir
[10:27] <_jason> Steil, rm -r
[10:27] <joft> Zedugh, the device section for the driver does not have that option
[10:28] <shutdownrunner> Stormx2: ubuntu is good if you want to have a rather stable desktop linux
[10:28] <Seveas> zdennis, that kept me away from ruby ;)
[10:28] <topyli> Cole: bah. how hard is it to break a case and steal a hard drive?
[10:28] <BadMackTuck> joft: then i have no idea why, i had the same problem you did but that fixed it =( sorry dude
[10:28] <_jason> what is up with xchat completion :/
[10:28] <shutdownrunner> Stormx2: I have a 8GB partition for testing other distros. just from time to time
[10:28] <joft> BadMackTuck: should i have not commented out the glcore module?
[10:28] <Zedugh> stevio, rmdir will remove an empty directory
[10:28] <BadMackTuck> joft: hmm, i didnt
[10:28] <Cole> topyli: eventually someone will get in and get access to the data.. you just got to give em hell trying to get there
[10:28] <BadMackTuck> joft: try uncommenting that
[10:29] <topyli> Cole: right :)
[10:29] <joft> trying
[10:29] <navarone> In Synaptic I can view installed files. It shows me the various kernels I have installed...like i386 and i686. If I uninstalll the 386 file will it delete all realtive files/modules etc and the vmlinux.bak and such?
[10:29] <joft> it shows the nvidia splash screen 3 times then goes to the "I cannot start the X server" wscreen
[10:29] <Stormx2> of the 10 latest wallpapers at gnome-look.org, 7 are ubuntu!
[10:29] <topyli> Cole: right now i'm happy minding that they don't get in over the internet. otherwise, i don't people breaking in my house anyway =)
[10:29] <Cole> topyli: time is all you really need though.. as it only takes a little bit of time to issue revocation certificates for the certs on your machine that where comprimised. plus never store any data on your machine.. atleast in an unencrypted format
[10:29] <Zedugh> josh, do you have 'Option          "RenderAccel"   "false"' in you xorg.conf driver section
[10:30] <joft> no
[10:30] <Zedugh> joft, well you should. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:30] <joft> this is my error: "Fatal server error: could not open the default font 'fixed';"
[10:30] <carsten> zdennis: :( the problem still remains, i try the "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"
[10:31] <Zedugh> joft, also from that page: after installing driver you must:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:31] <navarone> joft> just curious...did you use server install or regular?
[10:31] <joft> regular
[10:31] <LjL> does one have to live with an nvidia splash screen on X when using an nvidia card with the binary driver? >:\
[10:31] <navarone> ok
[10:32] <Zedugh> LjL, no, in xorg.conf driver section put: Option          "NoLogo"
[10:32] <LjL> Zedugh: ah, that's good
[10:32] <marcelromero> I nemm help on tha ubuntu 5.10 installation
[10:32] <Zedugh> LjL, check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:32] <joft> ok wtf
[10:33] <joft> xfonts-base might not have been installed
[10:33] <Seveas> joft, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <Seveas> fontpaths changed in breezy
[10:33] <LjL> Zedugh: i don't have an nvidia card right now, just thinking about getting one... having a "compulsory" splash screen would have been a big con, tho ;)
[10:33] <osh> It works better now. I'm almost embarassed to tell you what the problem was. Thanks for the help.
[10:33] <marcelromero> on the first reboot of the installation the pc doesn find a boot drive. Can someone help me?
[10:33] <Zedugh> joft, do you have x-window-system-core installed? you need it for fonts and more
[10:34] <Seveas> joft, and make sure you installed ubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <moiReee> LjL: it is very easy to kill this ugly splash screen from nvidia ;)
[10:35] <BadMackTuck> moiReee: its way more fun to change the splash screen
[10:35] <Zedugh> on the subject of nvidia cards, I upgraded to a 6600, then from hoary to breezy. using glxgears, the card is about 25% slower on breazy. any ideas?
[10:35] <BadMackTuck> moiReee: especially if its someone elses box
[10:35] <LjL> got enough splash screens already...
[10:35] <moiReee> BadMackTuck: yes :D
[10:35] <gar-> i installed ndiswrapper when i try to install the driver for my wireless usb say invalid driver and dont work i use sudo ndiswrapper -i NetRTUSB.inf noting happen any help???
[10:36] <BadMackTuck> LjL: you should wrap your screens in cellophane then
[10:36] <LjL> ...
[10:36] <Zedugh> white-wolf, what kind of video card are you using?
[10:36] <moiReee> 5 numbers for version? wtf?
[10:36] <gar-> any one???
[10:36] <gar-> i installed ndiswrapper when i try to install the driver for my wireless usb say invalid driver and dont work i use sudo ndiswrapper -i NetRTUSB.inf noting happen any help???
[10:36] <n0dl> does anyone know how to restore a panel or task bar in XFCE?
[10:37] <moiReee> 2.6.12.16.1
[10:37] <n0dl> because apparently  people at xubuntu have no idea
[10:37] <gar-> i guess not
[10:37] <Zedugh> n0dl, did logout/login not restore it? killing it should not have changed your desktop configuration, it should come back after logout/login.
[10:37] <n0dl> ok em try
[10:38] <gar-> do i need to get the correct windows drivers or something like that to make it work NetRTUSB.inf for the DWL G122 usb wireless adapter
[10:38] <moiReee> 2.6.12 is the official version, right? 16 is the patch number and 1 is bugfix? *g
[10:38] <huhmz> Does anybody know exatcly how ulimit works? Ive read the docs in bash but i can't seem to change the ulimit -n value (max open files)
[10:38] <trappist> huhmz: /etc/security/limits.conf
[10:39] <huhmz> trappist: thanks
[10:39] <Zedugh> has anyone got an SBAWE32 sound card to work?
[10:39] <gar-> anyone know please
[10:39] <n0dl> yeah it changed my configuration
[10:40] <trappist> Zedugh: sudo sndconfig
[10:40] <n0dl> does anyone know how to restore a taskbar in xfce?
[10:40] <Zedugh> n0dl, well i don't have Xfce installed, not used it much, so there may be a way, but I dont know it
[10:40] <gar-> i bin trying to run my usb wireless adapter DWL-G122 from dlink i use ndiswrapper but i try like 20 drivers and keep saying invalid driver any clueeee
[10:40] <trappist> nm, ubuntu doesn't seem to ship with sndconfig
[10:40] <joft> now x works but when it starts it gives me a popup window that just says "Xsession:" and has the OK button
[10:40] <moiReee> bye
[10:41] <Zedugh> joft, install x-windows-system-core
[10:41] <lightbright> trappist: there is no sound config with Ubuntu
[10:41] <joft> i did
[10:41] <joft> that's what made X work
[10:41] <huhmz> trappist: Do you know which script/program parses /etc/security/limits.conf ?
[10:41] <gar-> Zedugh: can you help me?
[10:41] <trappist> huhmz: I don't
[10:41] <trappist> lightbright: yeah I just noticed that
[10:42] <Xcerca> hey
[10:42] <iamkirk> ok , i know someone here knows about msn messenger on ubuntu
[10:42] <iamkirk> out with it !!!!! :P
[10:42] <BadMackTuck> iamkirk: GAIM
[10:42] <trappist> Zedugh: try sudo modprobe sb
[10:42] <Xcerca> yea,  gaim
[10:42] <thompa-A> how do i get rid of the older kernel entries in grub?
[10:42] <iamkirk> and where to get it ? :P
[10:42] <iamkirk> <== linux newb :P
[10:42] <BadMackTuck> iamkirk: should be installed by default
[10:42] <LjL> thompa-A: think it does it automatically when you remove the old kernels...
[10:43] <Zedugh> i havent used ndiswrapper, but have looked into it. everywhere i found info, there was none with ndiswrapper working with USB wireless, just internal
[10:43] <Xcerca> iamkirk   it is already installed
[10:43] <LjL> thompa-A: anyway, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:43] <thompa-A> oh
[10:43] <LjL> thompa-A: careful
[10:43] <Xcerca> iamkirk  applications >internet>gaim
[10:43] <topyli> iamkirk: look at your menu
[10:43] <gar-> i need to trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks
[10:43] <thompa-A> can i just remove them with synaptic?
[10:43] <LjL> thompa-A: yes
[10:43] <LjL> thompa-A: if you mean the old kernels
[10:43] <BadMackTuck> its okay iamkirk dont be afraid to use the mouse
[10:44] <LjL> thompa-A: of course, do it *after* you're sure the new ones work
[10:44] <gar-> Zedugh any idea of a program or driver that can run with wireless usb adapter???
[10:44] <thompa-A> yes, thanks. i thought that an update would do it
[10:44] <SirGrok> Hey, I have two questions. I can not search mounted drived with my "locate" command anymore, and I used to be able to do so... What did I do?
[10:44] <thompa-A> right thanks
[10:44] <navarone> uninstalling kernel packages in synaptic will update grub in the process...?
[10:44] <Zedugh> I can modprobe the driver, but (i've looked on alsa-project site) the options are not well documented. another problem is that the devices are not in the /dev filesystem, and udev doesnt put them there, so i get several "device not found" messages.
[10:45] <LjL> thompa-A: upgrading doesn't remove the old kernels, as they're important as a fallback in case the updated ones don't work
[10:45] <trappist> Zedugh: if memory serves, the options are dma= and irq=
[10:45] <thompa-A> ok sounds good
[10:45] <robbietjuh> hello all
[10:45] <navarone> LjL> And the uninstall updates grub as well?
[10:46] <SirGrok> hello robbietjuh
[10:46] <LjL> navarone: i thought so, but i wouldn't swear on it
[10:46] <robbietjuh> can someone please give me a little help regarding a lan ip?
[10:46] <SirGrok> Wel, we can try
[10:46] <marlun> Whats a good gui app for seeing all kinds of system information?
[10:46] <marlun> I found "Sysinfo" but it does not seem to be in the repositories.
[10:47] <navarone> LjL> does it remove the old vmlinux im and initdr as well?
[10:47] <SirGrok> marlun, what desktop are you running?
[10:47] <robbietjuh> i have in ubuntu server lan ip 10.0.0.152 but needs  to be *.151  where can i change that?
[10:47] <carsten> i have 6 kubuntu installs in the grub(?) start menu 3 of them are recovery. where can i see their differences?
[10:47] <marlun> SirGrok, gnome
[10:47] <trappist> carsten: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:47] <LjL> navarone: 'course, that's what the kernel *is*
[10:47] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  /etc/network/interfaces
[10:47] <robbietjuh> thanks rob
[10:48] <Zedugh> trappist, there are 6-8 options, irq, dma8, dma18, game-port, midi-port, etc. Its on my kids dual boot machine, and windows gives me lots of i/o addresses, ports, dma, etc., but alsa's doc does not make it clear which module parm is for which value.
[10:48] <joft> for some reason synaptic won't open for me, when I click on it nothing happens
[10:48] <navarone> LjL> okie
[10:48] <SirGrok> marlun,  Have you triec GNOME SYstem Manager?
[10:48] <trappist> Zedugh: oh, alsa.  the sb module is an oss module.
[10:48] <robbietjuh> there is no ip in
[10:48] <joft> actually, a lot of applications are doing the same thing; I click on them and nothing happens
[10:49] <MFen> hi! how does sound work in totem, gnome, or xmms (for examples) when udev sets /dev/dsp and /dev/snd/* to mode 660?
[10:49] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  Then I presume the interface you want to have that address is configured dynamically?
[10:49] <MFen> i discovered on one machine that i had to set these devices to mode 666 to get any sound
[10:49] <SirGrok> Can anyone tell me why my locate command doesn't scan my mounted devioces anymore?
[10:49] <robbietjuh> yes  its given by dhcp
[10:49] <_wouter> Does anyone know how I can switch from gdm to kdm? I tried changing /etc/X11/default-display-manager but that doesn't work :(
[10:49] <robbietjuh> but its the wrong
[10:49] <guydebord> my girlfriend was just using my GNOME desktop and somehow changed the "minimize windows" so that now instead of tabs in the bottom panel, the windows disapear until you press Alt + Tab.  Anyone know how to change it back. The help section is useless
[10:49] <trappist> Zedugh: try snd-sbawe
[10:49] <MFen> how is sound supposed to work when the permissions for the devices are wrong like this?
[10:49] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  If that's the case, you will need to configure the DHCP server to assign that particular IP to that box.
[10:49] <ys76> _wouter: try dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm
[10:49] <marlun> SirGrok, nope, going to try and find it in the repository (I've done a server-intall if you wonder why I don't allready have it, (if it's in the normal ubuntu install))
[10:49] <psycho666> how do i get info about an installed packge ?
[10:50] <nemik> hello, i tried the samba instructions to get my computer to be seen by an XP box. the XP sees it, but cannot go into it. how can i fix this?
[10:50] <_wouter> thanks ys76
[10:50] <robbietjuh> damn,  thats alot work with al the ports to chage
[10:50] <robbietjuh> cnhange*
[10:50] <SirGrok> marlun, I don't know if that is what you are looking for, but it lists all the running processes, system load (RAM, CPU, etc) and others
[10:50] <gar-> i trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks
[10:50] <Zedugh> trappist, i am using snd-sbawe, so i want to know 1) how to specify the parms correctly, and 2) if I do, will the modules generate the events to udev to create the devices, or should i whip up a script to mknod the devices and put it in rc.d/...
[10:50] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  What is providing the DHCP service on your LAN?
[10:50] <SirGrok> psycho666, check out synaptic's info for it...
[10:50] <robbietjuh> my isp, then a modem/router with dhcp
[10:50] <BadMackTuck> speaking of samba, how come when im transferring from a windows share its REALLY slow. like 230kBps...?
[10:50] <marlun> SirGrok, oh, hmmm, you mean System Monitor? (not manager)
[10:51] <marlun> SirGrok,  :)
[10:51] <BadMackTuck> anyone else have that issue?
[10:51] <joft> I just upgraded to breezy and now my system hangs and won't even open some applications (xchat, synaptic, anything from the menubar)
[10:51] <psycho666> SirGrok : synaptic ?
[10:51] <SirGrok> marlun,  Yeah, thats the one.
[10:51] <Zedugh> jost, try opening a term and typing synaptic. you could see error message that way. if you cant even open an xterm, you have a very basic problem
[10:51] <SirGrok> psycho666, as you can see, today is not my day. YYes
[10:51] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  Well, some routers allow you to assign specific IP addresses based on the MAC address of the requesting client.
[10:51] <Xcerca> anybody not have any problems at all ?
[10:52] <robbietjuh> oke  will look in that
[10:52] <robbietjuh> thanks rob
[10:52] <BadMackTuck> Xcerca: those people dont hang out here
[10:52] <SirGrok> Is tehre any way to have program's sound indepedant from one another?
[10:52] <joft> the error I got was "Segmentation fault"
[10:52] <Zedugh> Xcerca, no, this is reality.
[10:52] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  If yours doesn't, then you will either have to use static IP addresses, or disable the DHCP server in the router and run a DHCP server on the linux box.  Anyway, good luck with it.
[10:53] <gar-> i trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks
[10:53] <robbietjuh> how can i assign a static ip then rob?
[10:53] <usar> Hello, I installed updates in breezy and one of them included nvidia-glx-legacy(I have a tnt2 geforce) and now x doesn't load with the usual error when you driver doesn't work. What could be the problem?
[10:54] <lightbright> who here uses gnomebaker?
[10:54] <usar> lightbright: it's only baked coasters for me so far
[10:54] <BadMackTuck> usar: its only baked cake for me so far
[10:55] <usar> BadMackTuck: mmm, BUT what kind?
[10:55] <SirGrok> lightbright, use k3b. It is amazing.
[10:55] <guydebord> Anyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?
[10:55] <ciga> hi
[10:55] <BadMackTuck> usar: mostly the kind with zuchinni in it
[10:55] <Plus-V-ducky> lightbright, gnomebaker++
[10:55] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  Again, in your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can specify, "iface ethx inet static" and then make sure it has a static IP entry such as, "address 192.168.1.5".
[10:55] <Plus-V-ducky> You might try graaveman too
[10:55] <lightbright> you saying that gnomebaker is no good?
[10:55] <usar> BadMackTuck: haven't had the pleasure yet
[10:56] <ciga> when I was mounting my second loop device I got: 'mount: could not find any free loop device'. What can I do about it?
[10:56] <Plus-V-ducky> err 'graaveman'
[10:56] <lightbright> Plus-V-ducky: what you mean  gnomebaker++?
[10:56] <BadMackTuck> usar: too bad
[10:56] <Plus-V-ducky> ++ = good good
[10:56] <jbroome> lightbright: that means it's good.
[10:56] <linux-user-ubunt> i am on windows how do i make my pppoe internet connection to work on ubuntu
[10:56] <joft> so any idea why I would get "Segmentation fault" when I try to run applications? for some reason gaim started up fine, and so does any application that opens a file if I click the file, like xmms if I click an mp3, or openoffice if I click a document
[10:56] <lightbright> usar: you saying that gnomebaker has never once burned something for you?
[10:56] <fkjes> I have a question, I have a hard drive without grub on it (was installed on a different hard drive that died) so i booted from a live cd and ran sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:56] <fkjes> and i get this
[10:56] <fkjes> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:56] <joft> but other things like synaptic and xchat say "segmentation fault"
[10:56] <lightbright> how can gnomebaker be bad as it uses cdrecord same as k3b?
[10:56] <SirGrok> does anyone know the linux equivalent of "ipconfig -renew"?
[10:56] <priich> Does anyone know if there is a nice apt package for modules (as in dynamic path managment) somewhere or must i compile it myself ?
[10:57] <Vincent> has anyone experienced display lag with ati proprietary drivers ???
[10:57] <Vincent> with opengl apps
[10:58] <robbietjuh> Rob_P  so it woule be  -> iface eth0 inet static 10.0.0.151
[10:58] <Plus-V-ducky> Vincent,  yes aand I like to replace them with dri or gaaatos
[10:58] <lightbright> if I want to format hdb , do I type: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb ?
[10:58] <Plus-V-ducky> errrrr 'gatos'
[10:58] <usar> lightbright: one time it almost did, but the video file didn't have sound; I wasted maybe 10 CDs on Warty. k3b has been the safest route; I used gnomebaker and nautilus burner before back with other older distros too a couple times, k3b has been more reliable for _me_; the annoying thing is that I think there are a lot of KDE deps for k3b
[10:58] <iamkirk> is there anywhere to download the msn messenger smoticon thingy :P
[10:58] <SirGrok> Vincent, nope, but then again, I don't use them....
[10:58] <linux-user-ubunt> i am on windows how do i make my pppoe internet connection to work on ubuntu
[10:58] <gar-> i trying to seting up my wireless usb adapter on the laptop with ubuntu i use ndiswrapper i use like 20 drivers and say invalid drivers and the usb wont start any help please thanks
[10:58] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  No.
[10:58] <sorush20> why isn't my hda ext3 its ext2fs
[10:58] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  You would want two lines...
[10:59] <lightbright> usar: how can gnomebaker be bad as it uses cdrecord same as k3b?
[10:59] <lightbright> Plus-V-ducky: if I want to format hdb , do I type: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb ?
[10:59] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  "iface eth0 inet static" on one line, and, "address 10.0.0.151" on another.
[10:59] <robbietjuh> thanks
[10:59] <Plus-V-ducky> SirGrok, you can use ifup|ifdown or ipconfig [iface]  up|down
[10:59] <sorush20> why am I unable to run parted from the terminal konsole in kde?
[10:59] <guydebord> Anyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?
[11:00] <sorush20> it just hangs.
[11:00] <SirGrok> Plus-V-ducky, Thanks a lot.
[11:00] <knubbe> anyone who can recommend a nice cvs gui (its not a down-side if its similar to windows' "tortoise")
[11:00] <Plus-V-ducky> lightbright yep -- asssuming you want to use the ext3 fs and the pt'n is already made
[11:00] <lightbright> Plus-V-ducky: does the hdb have to be mounted OR unmounted first?
[11:00] <SirGrok> Is there any way to have program's sound indepedant from one another?
[11:00] <trappist> Zedugh: it's been a hundred years since I had an awe32 card but I used sndconfig to do the magic.  ubuntu doesn't ship that, but they do ship isapnptools, so you should be able to download and compile sndconfig.
[11:00] <usar> lightbright: my guess has been that there are more options to those cdtools that I was able to mess around with in k3b that I didn't find i gnomebaker; I was told that there is an issue with those backends + the kernel that you have to configure; also, I was always recommended to run as root; however, I setup k3b to be reliable w/o root
[11:00] <Plus-V-ducky> lightbright /dev/hdb1 actually
[11:00] <Plus-V-ducky> lightbright, no
[11:00] <Zedugh> gar-, try looking at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:01] <sabmann> thanks
[11:01] <Plus-V-ducky> SirGrok, you must specify dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces though
[11:01] <gar-> Zedugh
[11:01] <gar-> i look all of that
[11:01] <n0dl> which package is the real mplayer?
[11:02] <n0dl> 386 or 486?
[11:02] <usar> lightbright: that's just my experience with my cddrive, the maintainer (sebastian) of those tools says that no one else has had many problems like me
[11:02] <trappist> n0dl: choose based on your processor.  they're all 'real'.
[11:02] <usar> lightbright: maintainer for the frontend, I mean
[11:02] <trappist> n0dl: don't get 386 unless you have a 386 :)
[11:02] <lightbright> usar: ok
[11:03] <lightbright> Plus-V-ducky: does the hdb have to be unmounted first before formatting?
[11:03] <nicoal> atheros wifi cards "just work" in breezy, right?
[11:03] <Zedugh> gar-, is your device a [D-Link]  DWL-122?
[11:03] <trappist> nicoal: iirc you need the madwifi drivers
[11:03] <sethk> nicoal, mine do
[11:03] <jmazaredo> is this correct, i want to prevent anyone to access others folder in /home   chmod go-rwx home
[11:03] <Plus-V-ducky> usar, it truly sux to be you, huh?
[11:03] <Plus-V-ducky> ;-)
[11:03] <sethk> trappist, in breezy you no longer need to separately get madwifi
[11:03] <SirGrok> Plus-V-ducky, thanks, it is done. I will check it out later.
[11:03] <trappist> sethk: awesome
[11:03] <nicoal> sethk, rawk, thanks
[11:03] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: mmm, I still wish gnomebaker had more features : - P
[11:04] <sethk> just did an install today on a lappy that had a disk crash, pure 5.10, found atheros right out of the box.  I was impressed
[11:04] <gar-> Zedugh yeah
[11:04] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  I should probably mention that you'll also need a few other directives in your /etc/network/interfaces file for that interface (such as gateway, etc.) if you're running it with a static configuration.
[11:04] <gar-> Zedugh [D-Link]  DWL-G122
[11:05] <robbietjuh> Is there a example website for this rob?
[11:05] <Zedugh> gar-: and you tried ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwl122/Driver?
[11:05] <Zedugh> oops, ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwl122/Driver
[11:05] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  Hold on a sec... I'll send an example to the pastebin...
[11:05] <sethk> rob_p, or he can use the dialog in network service and it will write the file for him
[11:05] <toresn> does ubuntu support multiple consoles?
[11:06] <robbietjuh> its  a server sethk. txt based
[11:06] <sethk> robbietjuh, ok.
[11:06] <slew> =] 
[11:06] <PinTo> could some 1 plz help me. i have extracted my source kernel into /usr/src but i cant "make xconfig"
[11:06] <sethk> toresn, I have a dual head box
[11:06] <gar-> Zedugh yep
[11:06] <Plus-V-ducky> Well isar, look at the bright side -- you've become a v3c expert out of this
[11:06] <Xcerca> im havin hella trouble yo
[11:06] <sethk> PinTo, what happens?
[11:06] <linux-user-ubunt> i am on windows how do i make my pppoe internet connection to work on ubuntu
[11:06] <toresn> sethk, ?
[11:07] <Xcerca> is anybody in an amd64 ?
[11:07] <Xcerca> on
[11:07] <trappist> or near one?
[11:07] <sethk> toresbe, if you mean virtual consoles, then yes to that also
[11:07] <sethk> toresn I mean
[11:07] <Xcerca> trappist did you ever have trouble getting your sound to work ?
[11:07] <sethk> turesn, has six by default (virtual consoles)
[11:07] <XTR-II> Oh hi. How would I upgrade to Open Office 2 final?
[11:07] <guydebord> Anyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?
[11:07] <toresn> sethk: ok, how do i switch between the six?
[11:08] <sethk> toresn, control-alt-f1, control-alt-f2, etc
[11:08] <mifritscher> hi
[11:08] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4934
[11:08] <lightbright> usar: ok thanks for your feedback
[11:08] <PinTo> nothin sethk...but when i make menuconfig i get u need libsucures.dev<---or summat
[11:08] <trappist> Xcerca: I'm not on amd64 if that's a prerequisite to answering whatever your question is
[11:08] <sethk> PinTo, libncurses
[11:08] <PinTo> but when iu apt get i dont have n e librarys
[11:08] <Plus-V-ducky> lightbright, don't forget to edit your /etc/fstab and make a corresponding mount point with mkdir and chown it to appropriate file permissions
[11:08] <toresn> sethk: where can i configure the key bindings?
[11:08] <d03boy> anyone know of a very small livecd that I can use to reinstall grub using the grub-install command? (I will also need access to root)
[11:08] <sethk> PinTo, if you are doing make xconfig as root, try doing in a non-root terminal, xhost +
[11:09] <mifritscher> problem with hibernate: it can't find the swap-partition, but I even compiled its position (/dev/hdd4) in the kernel...
[11:09] <sethk> PinTo, xhost +hostname is better, but try just plain + to see if that is the problem
[11:09] <rob_p> sethk:  That is true however, his questions regarding config location, etc. led me to believe that he was interested in knowing how to do it manually.
[11:09] <Plus-V-ducky> d03boy, gentoo's live CD is under 200 MB
[11:09] <usar> Hello, I installed updates in breezy and one of them included nvidia-glx-legacy(I have a tnt2 geforce) and now x doesn't load with the usual error when you driver doesn't work. What could be the problem?
[11:09] <d03boy> thats not very small, but I'll start downloading it I guess--thanks :)
[11:09] <sethk> d03boy, usually better to use the grub utility.  the fedora rescue cd does it and is quite small.
[11:09] <rob_p> sethk:  But you're correct.
[11:09] <Plus-V-ducky> How small do you need?
[11:09] <sethk> rob_p, yes, I didn't realize he was on a server
[11:09] <d03boy> sethk: whats the grub utility? how do I find it?
[11:10] <PinTo> so i just type xhost + sethk
[11:10] <sethk> d03boy, you type grub, get a grub prompt
[11:10] <Plus-V-ducky> You can boot Linux with initrd and fs tools from two floppies
[11:10] <PinTo> then xconfig
[11:10] <d03boy> ok
[11:10] <sethk> PinTo, yes, that will allow root to open a window on your x display
[11:10] <d03boy> Plus-V-ducky: I just dont want to download a bunch of stuff I dont need
[11:10] <sethk> PinTo, right.  if I'm correct about why it is failing, which I believe I am
[11:10] <PinTo> ok thx sethk i'll do it
[11:10] <PinTo> TTFN
[11:10] <Plus-V-ducky> d03boy, then make some boot floppies
[11:11] <d03boy> i dont have a floppy drive
[11:11] <sethk> d03boy, you type grub, get a grub prompt, type root (hd0,0)  (if your / is /dev/hda1), then setup (hd0)
[11:11] <guydebord> Anyone know how to change Minimize Window preferences so that i still see the tabs instead of disapearing?
[11:11] <Plus-V-ducky> (I have a CF pen drive for that)
[11:11] <sethk> d03boy, setup (hd0) to install to the MBR of the first disk
[11:11] <sethk> d03boy, burn a cd
[11:11] <Plus-V-ducky> Gives me about 51 MB after formating
[11:11] <sethk> d03boy, blank cds are cheap
[11:11] <d03boy> i have cds
[11:11] <sethk> Plus-V-ducky, I have a one gig flash drive.  512 mb flashes are cheap these days
[11:11] <kvantti> #
[11:11] <kvantti>     /msg nickserv set email miksu.suomi@hotmail.com
[11:12] <d03boy> i also have multiple usb drives
[11:12] <jbroome> usb drive raid!
[11:12] <d03boy> But I cant get into lniux right now, so im in winxp
[11:12] <sethk> kvantti, now everybody knows your email address  :)
[11:12] <Plus-V-ducky> Still plenty of legacy BIOS out there that don't support USB boot devs though
[11:12] <Plus-V-ducky> sethk, I *hate* you  =P
[11:12] <sethk> d03boy, you can burn a cd in xp and read it in linux
[11:12] <d03boy> winxp overwrote the mbr, thats why im doign this
[11:12] <sethk> Plus-V-ducky, :)  I got somebody else to pay for it.  :)
[11:12] <sethk> d03boy, that's normal.  the grub sequence I told you reverses that
[11:13] <Plus-V-ducky> grrrr...
[11:13] <robbietjuh> rob_p:  Thanks m8
[11:13] <d03boy> ok... well im gunna start looking for this fedora liveCD i guess
[11:14] <guydebord> Is anybody seeing what I write? Or am I being ignored?
[11:14] <rob_p> robbietjuh:  np :-)
[11:14] <kvantti> sethk damn. how foolish of me
[11:15] <kvantti> sethk but go ahead and spam my hotmail account..maybe i have another one ;)
[11:15] <sethk> d03boy, it's one of the smaller ones
[11:15] <sethk> d03boy, the ubunti install cd has a rescue mode also, you know
[11:15] <SirGrok> so long, farewell
[11:15] <Zedugh> d03boy, try DamnSmallLinux, about 50M, but check the DSL website to verify it has grub. i think it does.
[11:15] <Plus-V-ducky> guydebord, I can't speak for the rest, but I'm ignoring everything you say -- hah!
[11:15] <d03boy> sethk: I dont have an ubuntu cd, I installed using my school's image
[11:15] <Kerr> 'lo .. i'm installing breezy (expert) as i needed to manually partition.. i;m given a choice of three kernels.. is there any advantage to using other than the default?
[11:15] <sethk> d03boy, ok.  then go with fedora rescue, or look in bootdisk.com
[11:16] <PyIRC> Hello.
[11:16] <sethk> Kerr, normally, no
[11:16] <Plus-V-ducky> hmmm... post /partum nick latency
[11:16] <grogoreo> hi
[11:16] <kvantti> there is a thing called insert rescue & analysis
[11:16] <grogoreo> does anyone's Mozilla firefox crash when firstly Totem is loaded (even if it can't play the file) in a plugin, and closes. Also Mplayer - when a file is loaded and the back button pressed or the tab closed, the sound keeps on playing, then when it finishes firefox closes.
[11:17] <usar> Hello, I installed updates in breezy and one of them included nvidia-glx-legacy(I have a tnt2 geforce) and now x doesn't load with the usual error when you driver doesn't work. What could be the problem?
[11:17] <Kerr> sethk: can you elaborate a little? ... are there disadvantages to using the last in the list (persumably newest..) ?
[11:17] <Kerr> egads, this shell i s laggy :-/
[11:17] <Plus-V-ducky> Kerr -- go with the gneric 'linux+[your_arch] ' and it should install the newest kernel available from Ubuntu repositories
[11:17] <sethk> Kerr, my policy is to always use the default unless I have a good reason not to.  It's the most tested, for one thing
[11:17] <Littlekill> was wondering, is this Linux OS any good for gaming and graphics work?
[11:17] <sethk> Kerr, why invite trouble for no reason?
[11:17] <Xcerca> whats cvs ?
[11:17] <PyIRC> Hello.
[11:18] <kvantti> Littlekill try out gimp
[11:18] <sethk> Kerr, and, no, it's not valid to assume that one is newer because it is later on the list
[11:18] <kvantti> Littlekill it rock
[11:18] <Littlekill> i was thinking of trying SUSE
[11:18] <kvantti> Littlekill s
[11:18] <sethk> Kerr, unless you are talking about kernel version numbers
[11:18] <d03boy> now if I could only find the fedora site :P
[11:18] <Plus-V-ducky> usar n00k that driver
[11:18] <sethk> Xcerca, a distributed source code versioning and control system
[11:18] <grogoreo> Littlekill, gaming is good in some cases. Graphics work - what type are you thinking? Tinkering or professional?
[11:18] <sethk> d03boy, I think fedora.redhat.com
[11:18] <d03boy> err, the rescue cd
[11:18] <greenpenguin13> JOIN #ubuntu-uk
[11:19] <sethk> greenpenguin13, you mean /join
[11:19] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: uninstall and reinstall?
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> lol yeah
[11:19] <Kerr> sethk: i'd normally read up, but my sarge box died, i always wanted to replace it with ubuntu but this is a bit sudden >.<
[11:19] <Plus-V-ducky> Littlekill, inkscape + ubuntu ++
[11:19] <Plus-V-ducky> =o)
[11:19] <Littlekill> Tinkering and Professional - Mainly with Photoshop + Flash
[11:19] <sethk> Kerr, just take the default kernel.  you can always install another one later if it turns out to be what you want
[11:19] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: vesa is alternative but I won't have direct rendering and it's slower
[11:19] <kvantti> Littlekill http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
[11:19] <Quistis> ellow
[11:20] <Plus-V-ducky> usar, no just uninstall the bad driver and  dselect hold it so it won't come back again
[11:20] <Kerr> thanks for the help, sethk :)
[11:20] <grogoreo> Littlekill, well you could try Crossover Office, but only PS7 works. Flash is hard to get working as well. I uses these programs too
[11:20] <Quistis> i have hoary installed on my machine and i would like to upgrade it to breezy
[11:20] <Littlekill> thanks
[11:20] <Quistis> can anyone give me the sources.list file from breezy?
[11:20] <d03boy> sethk: you think fc3 rescue cd would be sufficient?
[11:21] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: it's the right driver for my hardware, I didn't mean it was the wrong driver
[11:21] <sethk> d03boy, sure
[11:21] <d03boy> cool. 78mb
[11:21] <Plus-V-ducky> quistis type "ubotu, tell me about repos"
[11:21] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: I just upgraded the same package and there was brakage
[11:21] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: brakage is French for breakage, of course
[11:21] <Plus-V-ducky> usar, then wouldn't you say the upgrade was the proble?
[11:22] <cafuego> For most purposes, gimp is fine as a photoshop replacement.
[11:22] <cafuego> Flash is closed, so you know...
[11:22] <PyIRC> Hello.
[11:22] <Plus-V-ducky> proble is  Duck fir problem
[11:22] <PyIRC> hey again ppl
[11:22] <osh> bugzilla.ubuntu.com is the place to go to file kubuntu bugs too isn't it?
[11:22] <topyli> Quistis: mine: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list . check that you don't enable all the unstable stuff before you upgrade. just use the official reopositories
[11:22] <sethk> d03boy, there is an add-on that makes gimp look more like photoshop, although personally I don't see the need.
[11:22] <cafuego> d03boy: Yes, that's annoying, but then there's gimpshop too i huess.
[11:22] <Quistis> thx
[11:22] <Riddell> osh: yes, if it's in main
[11:22] <d03boy> thats cool. Never heard of those
[11:23] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: right, and I pin it down on the drivers that were upgraded; I still don't see where you're going solution-wise
[11:23] <PyIRC> Hello.
[11:23] <Plus-V-ducky> usar, revert your drivers
[11:23] <cafuego> I don't know if there's an SVG based flash replacement yet... (nind you that would not have interactivity, just animation)
[11:23] <osh> Riddell: How do I know if it's in main?
[11:23] <topyli> Quistis: actually, that's old it seems. let me upload a better one to that same location
[11:24] <Plus-V-ducky> (unless you wanna futz around with modprobe and insmod which is oftem what drm aand gl stuffs want -- a kernel module)
[11:24] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: ah, how do I downgrade a package? why would mirror have the older package?
[11:24] <topyli> Quistis: now it should be what i'm actually using
[11:24] <Plus-V-ducky> usar, it won't be older -- just possibly misconfigured
[11:25] <rixth> Extracting a 2gb rar file./
[11:25] <Plus-V-ducky> usar man apt-get (or use dselect or aptitude to force a version number)
[11:26] <Plus-V-ducky> Synaptic probably does it too
[11:26] <Quistis> topyli thx, i needed only the ubuntu things, so for me both are good :>
[11:26] <rixth> usar, mirrors have older versions of things like gcc, libtool, automake/conf etc etc
[11:26] <topyli> Quistis: cheers :)
[11:26] <Quistis> topyli have to add the Tor repository though :P
[11:27] <topyli> Quistis: tor?
[11:27] <volzak> hi
[11:27] <Quistis> topyli Tor is that anonymous network
[11:28] <rixth> topyli, some stupid protocl that supposedly makes you anonymous
[11:28] <Quistis> btw: what is W: GPG error: http://mirror.noreply.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CFF71CB3AFA44BDD
[11:28] <scorpix> i got this error when trying to install realplayer: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:28] <topyli> Quistis: oh yeah, i remember now
[11:28] <rixth> scorpix, apt-get install it.
[11:28] <rixth> It is in apt.
[11:28] <Plus-V-ducky> usar if you really wants "teh |3LEE|)1|\|6 3d6e", get src from CVS (if avail -- with nvidia, it mioght not be), update your compiler tools and build it yourself
[11:28] <usar> Plus-V-ducky: ah, the problem may have been that the update contained both kernel updates and gfx driver updates
[11:29] <Plus-V-ducky> usar, I doubt it
[11:29] <scorpix> what its name in apt?
[11:29] <rixth> scorpix, I dunno. Search for it...
[11:29] <PinTo> l o sethk it said xhost disabled
[11:29] <Xcerca> whats the command to reconfigure xserver
[11:29] <Plus-V-ducky> scorpix, nm what rixth says -- realplaayer only comes as binaries
[11:30] <Xcerca> i know its dpgk ...  somthing
[11:30] <rixth> Plus-V-ducky, he still needs the stdc module though....
[11:30] <Plus-V-ducky> If yo want to build it you'll have to choose their OS helixplayer
[11:30] <volzak> does any one speek french
[11:30] <greenpenguin13> Hello.
[11:30] <rixth> Plus-V-ducky, HE ISN'T BUILDING. The binary requires libstdc, trust me.
[11:30] <greenpenguin13> /msg Nickserv IDENTIFY
[11:31] <rixth> It is Real, after all
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> Hello.
[11:31] <Plus-V-ducky> Isn't libstdc.so one of the files in the Realplayer packaage?
[11:31] <rixth> Plus-V-ducky, nope.
[11:32] <rixth> scorpix, apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:32] <scorpix> rixth: i install it, th.x for help
[11:32] <Plus-V-ducky> apt-cache search helix
[11:33] <sethk> PinTo, that's normal, it should say "connections allowed from any host" or something similar
[11:33] <sethk> PinTo, then, if the problem with make xconfig was permissions, make xconfig should show the configuration window
[11:33] <d03boy> sethk: ok... i burned the fc3 rescue cd... i just type grub, root (hd0,0), setup(hd0) and I'm set?
[11:33] <KurtKraut> whick kernel version comes with Breezy ?
[11:33] <sethk> d03boy, boot the cd.  do the chroot it tells you to do on the screen, then do the grub sequence.
[11:33] <KurtKraut> *which
[11:33] <d03boy> sethk: thanks, i'll be back... hopefully in linux :P
[11:33] <Plus-V-ducky> KurtKraut, current is 2.6.12-9
[11:33] <Quistis> i think im switching back to debian when i reinstall my server
[11:33] <Xcerca> is breezy newer than hoary ?
[11:33] <KurtKraut> Plus-V-ducky, thanks
[11:34] <Quistis> Xcerca yes it is
[11:34] <BadMackTuck> Xcerca: breezy = 5.10 and hoary = 5.04
[11:34] <Xcerca> do people still use hoary ?
[11:34] <AMDXP> i think i am having hardware issues this is really sluggish
[11:34] <Xcerca> out of choice ?
[11:34] <cafuego> Plus-V-ducky: No, 2.6.12-10
[11:35] <Plus-V-ducky> pardon me
[11:35] <PinTo> sethk no it doesnt display a window.....i have installed make, gcc
[11:35] <cafuego> (Lotsa security fixes in newer kernel yesterday :-)
[11:35] <PinTo> but no libraries
[11:35] <Quistis> is it dangerous to remove ubuntu-base?
[11:35] <BadMackTuck> cafuego: i thought it had the new centrino drivers in it
[11:35] <sethk> PinTo, it should either display the window or show an error message.  You did cd to linux-2.6.12-9, right?
[11:36] <Plus-V-ducky> I jsut upgraded myself to -10 (haven't done init 6 yet though)
[11:36] <wb> hallo I just installed ubuntu and this are the first steps in the ubuntu world
[11:36] <cafuego> BadMackTuck: 2.6.15 perhaps
[11:36] <BadMackTuck> cafuego: hmm, okay
[11:36] <cafuego> BadMackTuck: Such a large change is unlikely to be included in a security patch
[11:36] <PinTo> sethk i might not have
[11:36] <KurtKraut> cafuego, I had a very bad RAM management in Breezy. My SWAP was getting full, so I've downgraded to Hoary and here I have no problem. So this kernel changes might solve my problem ? Should I try to upgrade to Breezy again ?
[11:36] <joft> upgrading to breezy messed up so many things on my notebook
[11:36] <PinTo> i'll do that
[11:36] <sethk> PinTo, k
[11:36] <Seveas> wb, welcome :)
[11:36] <Plus-V-ducky> cafuego, were you jsut looking on kernel.org?
[11:36] <cafuego> KurtKraut: How much ram/swap do you have?
[11:36] <BadMackTuck> KurtKraut: that might actually be because of firefox
[11:37] <cafuego> Plus-V-ducky: No, howso?
[11:37] <joft> now I get all these weird error popup windows when i load x, and a lot of programs won't start, and it hangs
[11:37] <KurtKraut> cafuego, I have 256mb DDR.
[11:37] <BadMackTuck> i've heard that it fills the ram all crazy like that
[11:37] <cafuego> KurtKraut: Do you use gnome?
[11:37] <Quistis> is it dangerous to remove ubuntu-base?
[11:37] <BadMackTuck> and sometimes uses 100% cpu all the time
[11:37] <Plus-V-ducky> re: Centrino support in 2.6.15
[11:37] <KurtKraut> BadMackTuck, hmmm... nobody had mentioned it to me before. I've already got on Breezy Xorg using 100% CPU.
[11:37] <KurtKraut> cafuego, yes, I do.
[11:37] <Plus-V-ducky> errr updated support that is
[11:37] <greenpenguin13> Hello.
[11:38] <greenpenguin13> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[11:38] <Quistis> is it dangerous to remove ubuntu-base?
[11:38] <Plus-V-ducky> joft, take a look at /var/log/x/[your xserver] 
[11:38] <cafuego> Plus-V-ducky: No, just guessing. But then, minor revision updates on a stable Ubuntu reelase do not include such large feature changes.
[11:38] <racookier> hi
[11:38] <yh> Quistis: don't do it : )
[11:38] <rmn30> Quistis, looking in synaptic: The Ubuntu base system (transitional package)
[11:38] <rmn30> This package exists only to cause ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard to be
[11:38] <rmn30> installed on upgrades from earlier releases to Ubuntu 5.10.  It is safe to
[11:38] <rmn30> remove this package once the upgrade is complete.
[11:38] <BadMackTuck> KurtKraut: yeah thats what i heard, but it didnt happen to me. maybe try a newer version of firefox or uninstall it or something. people tell me flock is cool
[11:39] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[11:39] <Plus-V-ducky> cafuego, still, a kernel is a kernel -- same for all distros less built-in modules
[11:39] <racookier> how the hell print from windows machines on ubuntu printers?
[11:39] <cafuego> KurtKraut: Gnome, when just running, would be using pretty much all of your ram. Any apps you start will make the machine start to swap. Do you use Evolution?
[11:39] <Seveas> racookier, install samba and sher the printer
[11:39] <cafuego> Plus-V-ducky: Not quite, there are a LOT of distro-specific patches.
[11:39] <Plus-V-ducky> racookier, with printer daemon
[11:39] <usar> how can I play midi on breezy eazily?
[11:39] <Seveas> usar, timidity
[11:39] <Quistis> rmn30: i just added breezy sources and am doing an upgrade. i can delete it then?
[11:39] <usar> Seveas: thanks
[11:40] <KurtKraut> cafuego, no, I don't use Evolution. And using Hoary I hardly ever have SWAP in use and with sarge I've NEVER ever had SWAP beeing used, only after some days of uptime.
[11:40] <Plus-V-ducky> cafuego, don't all the patches go back into the source tree?
[11:40] <wb> I have installed ubuntu 5.10 on my Acer Travelmate 291 LMI Notebook with Centrino wlan and Dlink AP so far all works very good!
[11:40] <Plus-V-ducky> wb, awesome!
[11:40] <cafuego> Plus-V-ducky: Not the linus one, no. He might not accept them, for instance! :-)
[11:40] <KurtKraut> cafuego, in all systems (breezy, hoary, sarge) I use the same applications. So for me there is clearly a bad performace on Breezy comparing to Hoary and mainly to sarge.
[11:41] <cafuego> KurtKraut: *nod* Do you have xorg transparency enabled?
[11:41] <cafuego> KurtKraut: ... or using beagle?
[11:41] <BadMackTuck> wb: thats really good to know
[11:41] <Plus-V-ducky> Are yoiu using ndiswrapper or a native i810/i920 driver?
[11:41] <KurtKraut> cafuego, no, none of these features.
[11:41] <BadMackTuck> wb: i have a travelmate 8103 and i wanted to try it
[11:41] <joft> I upgraded to breezy and now almost nothing works
[11:41] <r3nd3z> anyone know how i can make the sound work? fresh install of ubuntu, and its my first time :)
[11:41] <cafuego> KurtKraut: How about when using a different kernel under breezy?
[11:42] <BadMackTuck> joft: poor joft, having problems all day =|
[11:42] <toresn> where can i find the official documentation for ubuntu?  couldn't find any decent (running) documentation on the official site...
[11:42] <TokenBad> its not working!!!!!!!
[11:42] <KurtKraut> cafuego, I don't have enough experience in linux to do it by myself.
[11:42] <KurtKraut> cafuego, do you suggest any tutorial ?
[11:42] <Seveas> toresn, /topic
[11:42] <racookier> https://wiki.ubun.com or help.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <toresn> oh. sorry :-)
[11:42] <joft> gaim, synaptic, openoffice, and xmms work, but if i try to start xchat I get "Segmentation fault"
[11:42] <wb> I installed all default and so far all works as expectet but what utility would you use for speedstep!
[11:43] <Plus-V-ducky> cafuego, I thought we used the same 'pure' GNU/Linux kernel as Debian and Gentoo.  Redhack. LuSE and Muckrake msut be getting *really* forked by now, then...
[11:43] <TokenBad> can someone tell me why proftpd will not work? or why i get errors when try to install it using apt-get?
[11:43] <cafuego> KurtKraut: Try the hoary kernel under breezy, just install & boot.
[11:43] <joft> when I start gdm I get some weird popup windows, one says "Xsession:" and nothing else, another says it couldn't initialize HAL
[11:43] <Seveas> wb, ubuntu scales cpu frequency automatically
[11:43] <NsOmNiAc> joft : thought about using Synaptic to reinstall the application
[11:43] <wb> seveas thank you!
[11:43] <Plus-V-ducky> joft, since it's his x-server, that would be hard
[11:43] <joft> could all of my problems be caused by a bad sources.list?
[11:44] <oblib> Is there a linux utility that will allow me to monitor CPU temp, or is that too MB specific?
[11:44] <KurtKraut> cafuego, is there any documentation that I would learn how to do such changes with kernel ?
[11:44] <Plus-V-ducky> err NsOmNiAc I mean
[11:44] <joft> I upgraded by changing all the "hoary" in my sources.list to "breezy," and then i also tried "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:44] <Plus-V-ducky> joft --not likely
[11:44] <TokenBad> anyone?
[11:44] <cafuego> KurtKraut: Just the package, no changing of anything else.
[11:44] <KurtKraut> cafuego, so it is easier than I thought ;D
[11:44] <joft> i'm getting a lot of dependency errors now
[11:45] <joft> since I did the dist-upgrade
[11:45] <KurtKraut> joft, this is why this way of upgrade is not suggested. The best way is to install Breezy directly from a CD
[11:45] <Plus-V-ducky> joft, have you tried # apt-get remove --purge foo && apt-get install foo
[11:45] <joft> foo?
[11:46] <joft> am i supposed to remove and reinstall every application that doesn't work?
[11:46] <Plus-V-ducky> foo is a gneric name for 'any program' or file
[11:46] <joft> why would upgrading to breezy mess up so much though
[11:46] <rubem> hi there... does anyone know that is xmu library (xmU not xml)?
[11:46] <Plus-V-ducky> joft, with a busted x-server it can fix things
[11:46] <catherine> is there a chat room for blender ?
[11:46] <oblib> joft, sorry I'm late to conversation, how did you upgrade?
[11:47] <wolki> hi!
[11:47] <rubem> ?
[11:47] <catherine> !blender
[11:47] <Plus-V-ducky> catherine, not unless you toss a frog in it -- heh\
[11:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, blender is a free 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org, and tutorials at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[11:47] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:47] <oblib> catherine, try /join #blender
[11:47] <Seveas> and make sure you reconfigured X
[11:47] <TokenBad> when installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?
[11:47] <Seveas> joft, the upgrade notes tell you this...
[11:47] <joft> first I tried changing all the "hoary" to "breezy" in my sources.list. then I got a ton of problems and errors with X because for some reason it didn't install the x-server-common
[11:48] <Seveas> joft: install ubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <joft> then I tried apt-get dist-upgrade and now most things work, except I have a lot of weird errors and some applications won't launch but say "Segmentation fault"
[11:48] <Seveas> joft, do you even listen?
[11:48] <joft> Seveas, when I try that it gives me a screen-long list of dependency errors
[11:48] <GruntleNudity>  I just ordered the CDs... anything I should know?
[11:48] <Seveas> joft, goo
[11:48] <Seveas> d
[11:48] <Plus-V-ducky> joft deinstall first
[11:48] <Seveas> then we're going somewhere
[11:48] <Seveas> Plus-V-ducky, nonsense
[11:48] <d03boy> sethk: well, I got to the point where I run the root command but it didnt seem to like my arguments I gave it. Would you mind takin a look at my partition table (http://www.msoe.edu/~phillijw/partitions.htm) and seeing what partition I need to give it?
[11:49] <Seveas> joft, sources.list and all errors on the pastebin please
[11:49] <d03boy> I'm not sure which partition is my boot partition
[11:49] <Quistis> joft: the last time i saw "Segmentation fault" there was a rootkit on my system
[11:49] <joft> uh
[11:49] <joft> my browser won't work
[11:49] <BadMackTuck> rootkit ahoy!
[11:49] <Seveas> joft, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[11:49] <MrFarts> Quistis, SuckIT ?
[11:50] <Seveas> joft, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | python pastebin
[11:50] <Quistis> MrFarts: tornkit was found i think
[11:50] <Seveas> joft, put the errors in a file and cat that_file | python pastebin
[11:50] <Plus-V-ducky> 'python pastebin'?
[11:50] <dylan_> why use linux over windows?
[11:50] <mivey> is there any way to use the cd-rom drive while using the live CD?
[11:50] <MrFarts> dylan_, because your friends will think you are cool
[11:50] <d03boy> dylan_: windows costs money
[11:50] <joft> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4938
[11:50] <Seveas> dylan_, this is a support channel, not an advocacy channel
[11:50] <LjL> dylan_: for a number of reasons that are probably off-topic here
[11:50] <Quistis> MrFarts: i was to damn lazy to reinstall it, so i just closed the port on the router and removed the rootkit :>
[11:50] <oblib> dylan_, have you read any of the forum entries on that questoin? there are many
[11:51] <dylan_> oblib, can you point me in the right direction?
[11:51] <oblib> www.ubuntuforums.com
[11:51] <Seveas> joft, that sources.list is utterly broken
[11:51] <MrFarts> Quistis, we had suckit on one of our systems
[11:51] <MrFarts> Quistis, that thing is a pain
[11:51] <oblib> dylan_, then maybe search "windows" or something
[11:51] <oblib> okay
[11:51] <LjL> dylan_: why don't you just try installing a linux distribution (such as ubuntu), use it for a while, and make up your mind for yourself?
[11:51] <Seveas> joft, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <oblib> he's gone LjL
[11:52] <Seveas> joft, the O in -O is a capital Oh, not a zero
[11:52] <LjL> yeah, i don't type *that* fast
[11:52] <oblib> Is there a linux utility that will allow me to monitor CPU temp, or is that too MB specific?
[11:52] <Seveas> oblib, gkrellm/gdesklets
[11:52] <LjL> oblib: install lm-sensors
[11:52] <Quistis> MrFarts: all rootkits are a pain. did you reinstall?
[11:52] <senicas> hi all - i would like to NOT show mounted Hdds on my Desktop! Where to change that?
[11:52] <d03boy> ok, here I go again to try: grub-install /dev/hda
[11:52] <MrFarts> Quistis, not yet, the colo is far away
[11:52] <Seveas> senicas, gconf-editor
[11:52] <Seveas> senicas, apps->nautilus->desktop->show_volumes
[11:53] <MrFarts> Quistis, i'm going to rework the network soon; for now i'm keeping my fingers crossed
[11:53] <Quistis> MrFarts: so you removed the rootkit by hand? :>
[11:53] <TokenBad> when installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?
[11:53] <MrFarts> Quistis, yeah :(
[11:53] <Astxist> lm_sensors isn't overtly hard to set up but it took me awhile to tweak the conf
[11:53] <senicas> Seveas: thx - that was a fast reply :)
[11:53] <Quistis> MrFarts: thats a good thing, as long as you dont get segfaults :>
[11:53] <MrFarts> Quistis, it's the same rootkit that the debian cvs servers got hakced with
[11:53] <LjL> Astxist: it gave things weird names here, but other than that it worked. i think gdesklets and that sort of things use lm-sensors anyway as a backend
[11:53] <Plus-V-ducky> senicas, edit  all the /media/[whatever]  out of your /etc/fstab (excpet for perhaps a usb drive)
[11:53] <MrFarts> Quistis, so it's pretty well documented
[11:53] <szronik> I need to compile a package, just installed Ubuntu a few days ago. First I couldn't compile because gcc wasn't available (Ubuntu install doesn't default to gcc installation?) then I did 'sudo apt-get install gcc4-0' and supposedly it'st here, but I can't find the binary anywhere. Any clues?
[11:53] <joft> Seveas: all done, now what? dist-upgrade and upgrade both don't have any packages to install with the new sources.list
[11:53] <Plus-V-ducky> then do umount
[11:54] <Astxist> MrFarts, could you point me to a doc on it?
[11:54] <BadMackTuck> szronik: there is another name for it
[11:54] <parca> Hey guys, I just installed flashplugin-nonfree and restarted firefox and its still not installed as  a plugin
[11:54] <MrFarts> Astxist, google for it
[11:54] <Seveas> joft, what does apt-get dist-upgrade say?
[11:54] <szronik> BadMackTuck: What do you mean?
[11:54] <MrFarts> Astxist, i don't have any info offhand
[11:54] <Seveas> only 'nothing to update'?
[11:54] <BadMackTuck> szronik: i just did it, it might have just been gcc and not gcc4-0
[11:54] <parca> Hey guys, I just installed flashplugin-nonfree and restarted firefox and its still not installed as  a plugin. Any ideas?
[11:55] <joft> unmet dependency on 1 package
[11:55] <Astxist> MrFarts, right I didn't see the name otherwise I would've ty
[11:55] <Seveas> parca, flashplayer-mozilla
[11:55] <BadMackTuck> szronik: but of course i cant remember :|
[11:55] <rubem> is it safe apt-get dist upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[11:55] <Seveas> joft, paste it in a private chat
[11:55] <joft> language-support-en depends on openoffice.org2-help-en-us
[11:55] <Seveas> rubem, yes, if you read the upgrade notes
[11:55] <szronik> BadMuckTuck: OK, just did it with just gcc.
[11:55] <parca> Seveas, for firefox?
[11:55] <Seveas> joft, ah - you used backports
[11:55] <joft> I'm trying apt-get -f dist-upgrade now
[11:55] <Seveas> parca, yes
[11:55] <szronik> BadMuckTuck: But I don't think it worked earlier, before I did gcc-4.0
[11:55] <parca> Seveas, thanks
[11:56] <szronik> BadMuckTuck: It's there though, thanks. :)
[11:56] <Seveas> joft, apt-get -f install / dpkg --configure --pending are worthwile too
[11:56] <krak`nix> anyone know how i can get rid of this security warning on .m3u files?
[11:57] <Seveas> don't play them ;)
[11:57] <krak`nix> "contentx of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain text document".  If you open this file, the file might presetn a security risk to your system"
[11:58] <rubem> Seveas how big is the download?
[11:58] <Seveas> rubem, depends on how many packages you installed
[11:58] <Seveas> 300-500mb is normal
[11:59] <GruntleNudity> Im downloading the live CD and it's 627MB
[11:59] <oblib> LjL, I installed it, ran pmwconfig and it says no sensors found. Any ideas?