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us3rok, thanks ^^12:04
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gsnedderscarsten: duron 700mhz12:05
carstengsnedders: i guess you need 133 Mhz modules.12:05
gsnedderscarsten: 1 SDRAM PC100 chip is already there12:06
paihi!!12:06
carstengsnedders:  and i guess that the 256 MB modules would have to be 8 chip single sided12:06
paiwho know printer settings?12:06
carstengsnedders: oh12:06
paiplz..12:06
carstengsnedders: then better forget what i said.12:06
gsnedders:)12:06
pai...12:07
carstenokay. i have kate now. i saved it in my home directory going to replace the sources now12:07
paisomething about epson configuration!12:07
paiplease!12:07
paiit doesnt print anything..12:08
paiand i need it!12:08
carstenpai: sorry i have no idea about printers under linux12:08
carsteni dont have a source.list file, did you mean sources.list?12:08
l3myes12:09
l3m   /etc/apt/sources.list12:09
carstenokay, now (a) sudo apt-get install vlc or (b) sudo apt-get install w32codecs or (c) sudo apt-get update ?12:11
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l3mc12:12
paiyou must copu the win32 dir on /usr/lib!!12:12
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l3mcarsten: and i'd use mplayer instead of vlc or xine to watch movies12:12
_jorgehow can I set the default apps for certain files, like, when I click a link it always opens konquerer, I want it to open in firefox12:12
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l3m_jorge: system settings->kde components->component chooser12:13
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l3merr kcontrol->kde components->component chooser12:14
carstenGPG error ?12:14
l3mcarsten: ignore12:14
_jorgehow can I get to kcontrol, besides typing it in the terminal12:14
carstenwhy do i need w32codecs? what are they good for?12:14
l3m_jorge: alt-f2 and typing12:14
l3mcarsten: they play movie formats for which only a windows codec exists12:15
_jorgeno, I mean, where in the menu is kcontrol12:15
l3m_jorge: it's not. system setting is supposed to replace it ( and does in 99% of cases )12:15
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_jorgekay12:15
carstenthanks again12:15
carstenafter sudo apt-get update do i have to restart my machine?12:16
paiepson cx 3650.. help me!12:16
l3mcarsten: no12:16
carstenthanks again12:16
l3mcarsten: in linux, you don't have to reboot after installing software ;)12:16
l3mcarsten: it's only windows who wants that12:16
l3m;)12:16
carstenthe problem is, that i often dont know what the commands do...12:17
carstencurrently i install the w32codecs, after that i install mplayer i guess via "sudo apt-get install mplayer" ?12:17
Fillado[23:18]  <carsten> after sudo apt-get update do i have to restart my machine? <--- that just updates your systems database of what packages are available, sudo apt-get upgrade  updates everything12:18
Fillado^yup :)12:18
Filladoi've found vlc is better though12:18
l3mcarsten: sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc w32codecs 12:18
l3mcarsten: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586 vlc w32codecs 12:18
l3mFillado: really? i think mplayer is WAY better than vlc12:19
Filladooh - you only have to restart if it's something that's already in use eg. Kernel12:19
carstenl3m: i think i already installed w32codecs12:19
l3mnot to start a flamewar or so, but why do you prefer vlc?12:19
Filladoi have audio sync issue with mplayer12:19
Fillado*s12:19
Filladoworks fine otherwise12:20
l3mFillado: use a different -ao, probably sdl or or alsa12:20
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l3mFillado: i think it defaults to oss, which is emulated using alsa, which is slow sometimes12:20
paihow to see what usb has the printer linked to?12:20
Filladoit's set to alsa12:20
l3mbut you can set it in .mplayer/config ( ao=alsa or ao=sdl ) so you don't have to type it everytime12:21
paihow to see what usb has the printer linked to?12:21
l3mlsusb 12:21
paihow to see what usb has the printer linked on?12:21
l3mpai: lsusb12:22
paithe name.. 12:22
pai.../dev/usb...12:22
paiwhat dev?12:22
carstenunder XP i used an FTP client with the name filezilla. is there something similar under kubuntu?12:23
l3mpau: lsusb12:23
l3mpai: lsusb12:23
l3mpai: just believe me, man ;)12:23
pairoot@carrettino:/home/pai# lsusb12:23
paiBus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0760 Genesys Logic, Inc. Card Reader12:23
paiBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000012:23
paiBus 001 Device 003: ID 04b8:080e Seiko Epson Corp.12:23
paiBus 001 Device 002: ID 045e:007d Microsoft Corp. Notebook Optical Mouse12:23
paiBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000012:23
l3mcarsten: you can just use konqueror12:23
paiis what i see12:24
Filladocarsten: if you want to search for packages, open up Adept and just search for what you want :)12:24
l3mcarsten: just open konqueror and type ftp://something in the location bar12:24
l3mcarsten: if you want a more traditional ftp view, press CTRL-SHIFT-L12:25
l3mcarsten: and CTRL-SHIFT-R to go back to the original mode12:25
paiBus 001 Device 003: ID 04b8:080e Seiko Epson Corp. what is the /dev?12:25
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carstencool, thanks12:26
Fillado[23:28]  <l3m> carsten: and CTRL-SHIFT-R to go back to the original mode <-- thanks for that :D12:26
naliothpai: please dont paste in here (see the /topic)12:26
paiok..12:26
l3mpai: i don't think you printer is on a /dev/usbx device node. that's pre udev afaik12:26
paiwhat?12:27
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carstenokay, there are a lot of newbee questions for me. one other would be that i made a mistake at the install and the sudo password is now the same as my user password. how can i change that? the sudo password?12:27
l3mcarsten: the sudo password IS the user password12:27
Filladoit should be the same12:27
l3mcarsten: you don't have a separate root password in kubuntu12:28
l3mcarsten: if you want to change your password, you can do it by typing "passwd" in the console or by using the system settings->user & groups tool12:28
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l3mcarsten: you can control who has access to sudo by using "visudo" 12:30
l3mcarsten: e.g. if you want to be the only one who can sudo but want other users on the system12:31
carstenah i see now12:31
l3mpai: your printer is somewhere in /sys/bus/usb/devices12:32
carsteni thought i made an mistake at the install, and i entered my password twice.12:32
alanddQuick quesiton about running GNOME apps on KDE desktop on Kubuntu:  What is the easiest way to set that up?  Install Ubuntu and then get the kubuntu-desktop package?12:32
paiwhat addres might i give to kprinter?12:32
carsteni just started mplayer. the video and audio playback is not very smooth :(12:32
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l3malandd: you have access to all gnome apps in "normal" kubuntu too, after you've installed them12:33
Filladoalandd: use apt-get, it'll get the things you need to run it without gnome12:33
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l3mcarsten: use kate to edit .mplayer/config in your home directory12:33
l3mand add this: "vo=xv" and "ao=alsa" 12:34
pai[Job 2]  Back-channel read error - Input/output error!12:34
alanddso if I install the Kubuntu CD and just apt-get the GNOME apps I want, I'll be set?12:34
l3malandd: yes12:34
Filladoyup :)12:34
l3malandd: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except for some defaults .. ;)12:34
alanddSweet!  No repository pointer changes required?12:34
l3malandd: nope12:34
alanddl3m: most excellent!12:35
l3mindeed ;)12:35
l3mcarsten: if it's still slow, try "ao=sdl"12:35
paithe error_log say [Job 2]  Back-channel read error - Input/output error!12:35
paiwhat's the problem?12:35
l3mpai: are you using cups to print? 12:35
paiyes12:36
alanddOne final question: a computer I want to install on has a Soundblaster 16 compatible, on the motherboard sound system.  Fedora (since Core 2) will not see it.  Will Ubuntu?12:36
l3mand you did add your printer by using the system settings->print menu?12:36
l3malandd: probably, you'll have to try out or find out the exact name of the sound chip.12:37
paiy12:37
l3msb16 compatible could be anything12:37
l3malandd: lspci should get you the proper name12:37
l3mpai: hmm dunno, i'm no cups expert ;/12:38
paiwhat can i use?12:38
alanddit could be anything, true.  Fedora dropped or broke support for ISA PnP at FC2 and no amount of tinkering will make it see the sound anymore.  As long as Ubuntu has the ISA support still, I have hope.  I'll try it this weekend.12:38
l3mpai: cups is the best, maybe try the kubuntu or cups mainlinglist ?12:38
alanddl3m: no it's ISA so lspci does not see it.12:38
paiit's everything ok for first time..12:39
paiand the printer bum!12:39
pailinux is a serious problem..12:39
pailinux HAS a serious problem..12:39
l3malandd: ah. hmm. dunno ;) try it out12:39
l3mpai: did you try to google your printer name and "linux"?12:40
paiyes..12:40
paii just downloaded driver in rpm, alienated and installed..12:40
alanddl3m: I'll try it and report back here.  Maybe tomorrow if the turkey doesn't knock me out.12:40
FilladoRPM...12:40
l3malandd: good luck! 12:40
l3mpai: what's your printer's name again?12:41
paiepson stylus cx365012:41
paicx3600 serire..12:41
pai*series12:41
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l3mpai: http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/epson-list/2004q4/004125.html12:44
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l3mpai: i don't think you need an rpm to get it to run12:45
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carsteni still have sluggish video playback. i think it has something to do with the sound. if i play the testsound in the soundsettings there happens nothing for a second, and then the sound starts to play12:46
paiwhat so?12:46
l3mcarsten: go to system settings->sound system and deactivate the sound system there12:46
l3mcarsten: then mplayer should play perfectly12:47
carstenyou mean sound & multimedia?12:47
l3myes12:47
Filladocarsten: in the settings of mplayer, under video, what driver are you using?12:48
l3mFillado:  i think his problem is arts12:48
Fillado(try changing it to OpenGL - as that should bring your graphics card into play)12:48
l3mFillado: i have hardly ever seen something worse than arts12:49
carstenFillado: x1112:49
Filladolol12:49
l3mFillado: and in X11, xv is usually the best vo 12:49
Filladowell, he can try opengl just to see ;)12:49
frank23why did the kernel go from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10?12:49
Filladoyeah arts doesn't seem to do much on mine12:49
Filladoit was updated12:49
crimsunABI change, frank23.12:49
naliothfrank23: security improvement12:49
frank23crimsun: nalioth : ok, and is there a fix for the kaffeine crash on exit?12:50
crimsunI'm not familiar with it.12:50
l3mi really wonder why kubuntu was made with kaffeine (xine) as default multimedia player instead of mplayer...12:50
crimsunwe can't distribute mplayer in a useful fashion.12:51
l3mwhy not? 12:51
crimsunthat's why it's in multiverse.12:51
Filladonot GNU?12:51
frank23l3m: and kaffeine is a front end to gstreamer by default on breezy, not xine12:51
carstenhmm. i changed the audio from alsa to NULL, now the video is smooth12:51
l3mah .. didin't know, thanks12:52
crimsunmplayer has possible licensing ramifications. It cannot go into main.12:52
l3mcarsten: but null = no sound12:52
Filladolol12:52
carstenl3m: true12:52
l3mcarsten: that's hardly what you want12:52
Fillado:D12:52
l3mcarsten: is it still slow with arts disabled?12:52
sampanpffffffft, "talkies" ruined moving pictures anyway 12:52
sampan;x12:52
carstenarts?12:52
l3mcarsten: sound system in system settings12:53
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l3mcarsten: go to console, type "killall -9 artsd" and try mplayer again... 12:53
carstenah i see12:53
Fillado^is that meant to say Kubuntu Hug day?12:53
carstenarts runs fine, but no sound12:53
crimsunFillado: it is12:54
Filladook :)12:54
sampan"fix a beastie" = spay or neuter an animal?12:54
sampan;x12:54
Hobbseei'm wondering about the Kubuntu Hug Day myself...12:55
l3mcrimsun: but mplayer is gpl?12:55
l3mcrimsun: i just checked on the website12:55
carstenokay. sudo killall -9 artsd .. DONE12:55
carstenstarting Mplayer -> craash12:55
l3mcarsten: with vo=xv and ao=alsa? 12:55
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carstenokay12:56
carsten2 basics things12:56
neoncodeHey, my sound does not work when an applacation goes fullscreen...12:56
crimsunl3m: the decoders have possible license ramifications.12:56
carstenwhere should i change the settings of mplayer12:57
crimsunl3m: it is decidedly non-free until Debian decides otherwise.12:57
carstenin the "wrench" menu, or the config file?12:57
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l3mcrimsun: ah ok12:57
Filladohttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-325737.html <---5th post down12:57
l3mcarsten: whatever you prefer ;)12:58
l3mi still wonder how xine and vlc can play movies encoded in codecs found in w32codecs but not mplayer? 12:58
carstenokay vo=vx [newline]  ao=alsa [starting video = crash] 01:04
carstenand on the other hand, everytime i start mplayer i get "New_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong."01:04
l3mi guess.. not, since the reason why i switched to mplayer was that most divx from ... err.. miscellanous sources don't play right in vlc or xine01:04
neoncodeno wait nevermind, hey I have a dual-head layout, can I change witch monitor an applacation fullscreens to?01:04
neoncodeanyone?01:04
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Filladowill it not default to that once you've fullscreened it in there once?01:04
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juanjohi01:04
neoncodeFillado: no, wait. When an ap such as a game goes fullscreen it goes on one monitor, but I want it to goto the other.01:04
juanjohow install a slash, please?01:04
Filladoah01:04
Filladoslash?01:04
juanjosi01:04
juanjoeres espaol?01:04
Fillado?01:04
juanjosplash01:04
juanjosorry01:04
juanjoxDDD01:04
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Filladohmm01:04
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juanjosplash, sorry01:08
Filladoah01:08
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Filladodo you mean the KDE splash screen - or a theme for it01:10
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carstenit seems that i lost my net connection :)01:15
carstenlast line for me was [00:58]  <l3m> i still wonder how xine and vlc can play movies encoded in codecs found in w32codecs but not mplayer?01:15
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Filladothink there be a netsplit01:18
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Fillado[00:07]  <l3m> i guess.. not, since the reason why i switched to mplayer was that most divx from ... err.. miscellanous sources don't play right in vlc or xine01:18
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Fillado:|01:18
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carstenvlc works smooth but cant play some files :(01:18
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carstenthere is a "~" file on my desktop can i safly delete it ?01:18
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Filladobackup file?01:18
Filladoerm...dunno really01:18
Fillado!backup file01:18
ubotuFillado: Not a clue01:18
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carstenits 0 bytes in size01:19
carsteni think its safe to delete01:19
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carsteni installed bittorrent-gui via adept, but i cant find it now. where is it?01:21
mornfallhuh?01:22
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mornfalltry dpkg -L bittorent-gui :)01:23
l3mjust click on a .torrent01:23
mornfallhehe01:23
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l3mcarsten: if you want a bittorrent client with more gui functionality, see here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php01:25
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carstenhmm strange dpkg tells me that bittorent-gui isnt insalled01:29
carstenadpet say it is installed. strange.01:29
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dv__hey01:30
dv__I am using kubuntu breezy, and kaffeine-xine, and when I quit, a kaffeine process is still present, i have to call "killall kaffeine"01:30
dv__cant find a patch for this, any ideas?01:30
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carstenwow this is an really old bittorren version.01:36
carsteni think i will sleep now01:36
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frank23dv__: I found a kaffeine 0.7.1 compiled for breezy that seems to fix this01:43
skypayeah, they really  improve stuff, I use 'em too :)01:44
skypamine used to crash after opening a second file01:44
skypapretty annoying01:44
frank23dv__: http://ubuntu.czessi.net/breezy.php?i18n=de01:44
skypathat's the one01:45
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frank23skypa: the original kaffeine in hoary was even worse01:45
skypaconveniently czessi provides amarok 1.3.6 too01:46
frank23skypa: is it better?01:46
skypadepends.. better than? :p01:46
skypathere are some minor bugfixes 01:47
frank23ok01:47
skypaso if you already got 1.3.5, you're good to go01:47
frank23I have 1.3.501:48
skypa:)01:48
frank23skypa: does czessi have a deb repository or do I have to install everything by hand?01:49
frank23skypa: I just found it... nm01:49
dv__thanks frank23 , this did it01:50
frank23dv__: good ;)01:50
skypaI use the rep too, so a dist-upgrade will take care of everything01:50
frank23skypa: is the czessi repo basically an unofficial backports?01:52
skypabascially, yeah01:52
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skypalet me know if you find a gpg public key for the rep btw.01:53
ubuntuhi to all01:53
ubuntuI have a question01:53
skypaapt-get ain't verifying the packages, and I don't like unverified packages ^^01:53
frank23skypa: I usually just ignore the warnings... 01:54
ubuntuI use Suse and Mandriva and thought well lets try Kubuntu01:54
skypawell, you better don't.. installing packages as root from a potentially insecure source01:54
skypaI don't know.. :/01:54
ubuntumy shock is and I tend to get reaaly pissed about it: that after 5 times downloading 2.... gigs I still haven't a working dvd01:55
ubuntuthe md5 checksum ios everytime false01:55
ubuntuwhat to do 01:55
ubuntuhelp before I never try Kubuntu again01:55
skypahow about getting the cd? :p01:55
ubuntuWell did that was the live cd and that is what I use now fro help on this channel01:56
skypathere is a install cd out there01:56
ubuntubut you know installing from a dvd is so much more fun and a lot easier01:56
ubuntucould do that and just upgrade the packages from the net01:56
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frank23skypa: why should czessi be secure in the first place?01:57
ubuntustill it is better seen the fact that I like to try things out to have a install mediam like a dvd I guess01:57
ubuntubut what could be wrong01:57
ubuntudid you all get it right the first time and which site you used01:57
ubuntuto download the dvd from?01:58
skypawell, mine worked first try.. but as I said.. cd :)01:58
ubuntuok I see01:58
l3msame here. my dvd worked just fine01:58
skypaand frank23, I don't need "secure" packages, but I really need to know, that the packages weren't compromised by a possible hack etc.01:58
ubuntudid you only downed the instaal cd and the rest from the net01:58
skypayeah01:59
ubuntul3m which site did you get the dvd from01:59
ubuntumain or another in the world01:59
ubuntul3m still there?02:01
skypaa friend of mine used http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/breezy-dvd-i386.iso02:01
ubuntuthanks I try the site in the morning02:03
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ubuntuhopefully it works cause it is no fun burning corrupt dvd's02:03
ubuntuwho had the same prob as me with the dvd md5 checksum false everytime and ended up with not working distrop's?02:03
frank23skypa: thank god for xine! amarok-gstreamer still doesn't work for me02:04
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skypajoin the club02:05
skypaalthough I'm using the arts plugin right now02:05
ubuntuwell I guess missing codecs02:05
skypacpu friendliest plugin for me right now02:05
ubuntuSuse 10 has that problem fear of lawsuits02:05
skypaubuntu doesn't include the commercial codecs by default either02:06
skypabut it's pretty easy to get them installed, just needs one line in a configuration file :)02:06
ubuntuyep!02:06
ubuntufound that out too ;-)02:07
ubuntuwell not so hard it is all over the internet when you look for it02:07
`NomadHi all, What is the app to graphically manage services?02:07
ubuntustill no wizard in Linux land02:08
ubuntuthat is me02:08
ubuntulol02:08
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ubuntuwell gues system settings - system services02:09
`Nomadnope02:10
ubuntuohh?02:10
ubuntusorry02:10
Hobbseeanyone tried suspend2 here?02:10
`Nomadahhh.. maybe under the Debian menu.. :)02:10
`NomadOff to browse, thanks for the nudge02:11
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ubuntuwell I am of of to bed, thanks Skypa I'll try the site first thing in the morning I hope the bandwidth is ok!02:12
skypanl -> uk.. should be ok02:12
skypanight :>02:12
ubuntuif all works you might see me bak with kubuntu running02:12
ubuntuSuse 10 is a bit slow on my machine02:12
ubuntuhopefully kubuntu will work nicely02:12
ubuntusame too skypa, see ya anotherie02:13
ubuntusee you all, succes! ;)02:13
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chaoticgeekhello all02:15
chaoticgeekubotu: hi02:16
ubotusalut, chaoticgeek02:16
chaoticgeekok, well atleas someone responded to me02:16
chaoticgeekatleast*02:16
Hobbseehi02:17
chaoticgeekhow are you today Hobbsee?02:18
chaoticgeekbrb 02:18
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Hobbseechaoticgeek: good, trying to kill off my computer as usual02:19
skypadon't we all? :p02:20
Hobbseetrue02:22
Hobbseewell...02:22
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chaoticgeekback02:27
chaoticgeekthats nice to hear Hobbsee 02:27
Hobbseeheh02:27
chaoticgeekI do that all the time02:27
chaoticgeekI miss my dorm room...02:27
Hobbseedarn02:28
Hobbseetoshiba laptops are known to have trouble with suspend2, which was what i was looking at trying out02:29
chaoticgeekhummm02:30
chaoticgeekmy pc is fine. I just want to convert my fat32 partition to ntfs, and not screw up kubuntu02:30
chaoticgeekso I've been kinda cautious about doing that...02:31
Hobbseewhy woul dthat screw up kubuntu?02:31
Hobbseejust make sure you get the right partition :P02:31
chaoticgeekwell with fstab having it mounted on start up as fat3202:32
Hobbseechange the fstab file then02:32
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yikeshas anyone successfully used alsa in xmame or kxmame?03:00
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os2maccan some throw me a bone about how to connect to a windows xp shared printer from Kubuntu?03:02
Hobbseeos2mac: it's pretty simple03:03
Hobbseesystem settings, peripherals03:03
Hobbseeprinters03:03
Hobbseeadd, printer class, SMB shared printer class (windows)03:04
os2mactried that it didn't work....03:04
Hobbseeanonymous, scan03:04
Hobbseewhich bit didnt work?  what was the error?03:04
os2macI couldn't find the printer on the scan03:04
Hobbseecan you find the computer it's connected to, via samba?03:05
os2machaven't tried and don't know much about samba...03:05
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os2macbut I believe it's enabled.03:05
Hobbseego into konqueror, network folders03:06
Hobbseeare the network and windows compuers there?03:06
os2macunable to find any networks.03:09
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os2macsorry about that03:11
Hobbseehmm...then you definetly have a problem with samba03:11
os2macok so this is a samba problem...03:11
Hobbseeyes03:11
Hobbseetried pinging the XP machine?03:11
os2macno workie.03:13
Hobbseehmmm03:14
Hobbseetry apt-get install samba for a start...03:15
os2macI just checked adept and its installed03:15
Hobbseeah ok03:15
Hobbseeoy!  who ate my breezy cd?03:15
Hobbseeah03:16
Hobbseei could find the 3 hoary ones, and the dapper flight cd, but nothing else03:16
os2machehe.03:16
Hobbseeos2mac: yes, i'm here03:16
os2macjust wondering why I had a pm from you.03:16
HobbseeIIRC that was from a few day sago03:17
Hobbseeos2mac: are you using a firewall, btw?03:17
os2macnot between these two...03:17
os2macahh but I am using a software firewall on the pc.03:17
os2macfscking norton.....03:18
os2machang on03:18
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Hobbseehehe...that'd be it, i'm sure03:19
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Red-Soxall the sudden, i cant log on to my gaim AIM account03:20
os2macand you would never know I am an admin... fsck.03:21
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os2macof course I do have an excuse.... I am a trusted solaris admin and have never had to get a windows box to talk to Unix03:24
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Vivaldihello03:27
Vivaldiwhere are the kernel source headers?03:27
Vivaldii need them to build an external module03:27
Vivaldiwhat's the name to be used by apt-get install?03:28
crimsunyou mean kernel headers?03:28
Vivaldiyes03:28
crimsunlinux-headers-$(uname -r)03:28
Hobbseeos2mac: lol - windows boxes are nasty talking to each other too03:29
os2macso I am back into the add printer dialog and did anon and scan and can see the network (subnet) and the computer but its the wrong hostname...03:29
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Hobbseethe wrong hostname...will it connect anywya?03:30
os2macand I am getting nt_status_access_denied.03:30
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Vivaldiarrgh03:30
Vivaldinow gcc03:30
os2maccould that be as  setting problem in samba?03:30
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Vivaldiwhat the package containing gcc?03:30
crimsuninstall build-essential and gcc-3.403:30
Vivaldiwhy doesnt kubuntu install a compiler by default??03:31
crimsunbecause it's a DESKTOP distro03:31
Hobbseeos2mac: then hit back once, hit the second option below anonymous, next, then try03:32
Hobbseei think it's called guest03:32
os2macthat is the guest option.. I know that won't work.03:32
martinokay, i removed sr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror by mistake. (well, by blindly following the FAQ about something i did not read enough about) ... how do i re-install the package owning it? (kubuntu-default-settings?)03:32
Hobbseemartin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settigns03:33
Hobbseemartin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings03:33
Hobbseehelps if it's spelt correctly...03:33
martinwell, it's already the newest version.03:34
Vivaldiit installed gcc-4.003:35
Hobbseeif you removed it, you should be able to reinstall it03:35
martinwell, that would cause a whole lot of havoc. 03:35
Vivaldiwhen making the module it gives error , since its  expecting gcc-3.403:35
Vivaldiany idea?03:35
Vivaldinow there's gcc-4.0 and make expects gcc-3.4 03:36
martinHobbsee, i kinda remember apt having an option to re-install, but i'm not really sure.03:36
martinperhaps if i downloaded the package and dpkg'd it in.. hmm.03:36
Hobbseemartin: if you try putting that command in earlier, what does it do?03:36
Vivaldiany idea on what and how to upgrade the part of these development tools?03:37
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Hobbseesudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings03:37
martinHobbsee: it tells me i have that package installed and it is the newest version.03:37
naliothVivaldi: in your terminal, type "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 <COMMAND that expects 3.4>03:37
Hobbseemartin: right03:37
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Hobbseesudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?03:38
Vivaldinalioth, you meant.. CC = .../gcc-4.0, since i have gcc-4.003:38
Vivaldiright?03:38
martinHobbsee: same result.03:38
martini just installed kubuntu half an hour ago.03:38
naliothVivaldi: if your program expects 3.4, then i meant what i wrote03:38
Hobbseehmm ok - do you have a list of what it removed?03:39
martinHobbsee, ah, I actually removed one single file.03:39
martinnot the apt.03:39
Hobbseewhich file did you remove?03:39
Hobbsee*is slightly confused here*03:39
martin usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror-something.03:39
martin:)03:39
martinsorry.03:39
Hobbseeah...i see...03:40
Vivaldinalioth, does not work03:40
martinso now my konqueror looks like shit.03:40
Vivaldinalioth, same error: "gcc-3.4: command not found"03:40
martintried to use the original-rc file from kde.03:40
Hobbseemartin: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc?03:40
naliothVivaldi: i thought you installed it03:40
martinyeah, that's the one.03:40
naliothVivaldi: apt-get install gcc-3.403:40
Vivaldinalioth, i installed gcc-4.003:41
Hobbsee!pastebin03:41
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:41
crimsunVivaldi: I told you to install 'build-essential' and 'gcc-3.4'03:41
Vivaldicrimsun, i read, and i did it03:41
crimsunthen how are you getting that error?03:41
naliothVivaldi: if you did, your command would work03:41
crimsuncrimsun@garnish:~$ gcc-3.403:42
crimsungcc-3.4: no input files03:42
Vivaldicrimsun, only the first part  successed, the second part couldnt find gcc-3.403:42
crimsunVivaldi: you don't have the main repo enabled.03:42
Vivaldioh my god03:42
Vivaldihow do i enable it?03:42
Hobbseemartin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4963 is the contents of my /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc file03:42
naliothubotu: tell Vivaldi about repos03:42
crimsunuse Adept, Synaptic, an editor, whatever.03:43
Hobbseeyou'll need to use "kdesu kwrite /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc" and paste the stuff in there, then save it03:43
Hobbseemartin: you'll need to use "kdesu kwrite /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc" and paste the stuff in there, then save it03:43
os2machmmm.so I set the printer to the correct name and network and correct printer driver. when I test it seems to go ok,, and there are no jobs in the queue but it still doesn't print03:44
martinHobbsee, you're a lifesafer. =)03:45
Hobbseemartin: glad to help :)03:45
Hobbseeos2mac: hmmm...03:45
Hobbseedid it detect the printer in the scan at all, or did you put it in manually?03:45
os2macmy thoughts exactly... and I am a little puzzled by the fact that detects the wrong computer name...03:46
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os2macno I inputted manuall.y03:46
martinHobbsee, then ofcourse, that did not help. konqueror is still pretty .. weird-looking. any clues? perhaps i should look for alternative locations for the settings?03:46
Hobbseemartin: assuming you got that file in correctly, and made it save, it should be working03:47
Hobbseehave you tried refreshing kde?03:47
Hobbseectrl alt backspace03:47
martinlet's.03:47
Hobbseeos2mac: did konq ever find the network?03:47
Vivaldii am on the wiki. ok. i need synaptic **OKAY**. why doesn't "apt-get install synaptic*" install it, since it's not installed by default?03:48
crimsunbecause synaptic is in main.03:48
HobbseeVivaldi: if you've got the correct repositories, that will install it...03:48
crimsunhere: Open a Konsole. kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:48
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martinHobbsee, a bit brutal, but yes. thanks =}03:49
crimsununcomment the breezy lines containing main03:49
Hobbseemartin: :D it worked?03:49
VivaldiHobbsee, i do not see what you are talking about..... i only did a default installation and i only wanted to install a compiler . that's all. 03:49
martinHobbsee, yeah. ;D03:49
crimsunComment out the cdrom line. Save, exit Kate. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gcc-3.403:49
Vivaldii do not know what i did wrong, since i did nothing03:50
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Hobbseemartin: excellent!  Sometimes those changes for kde need to have kde refreshed - at least it doesnt require a full reboot!03:50
crimsunVivaldi: I just gave you instructions.03:50
Vivaldiok. let me see03:50
os2macyes found the network... didn't find and I can see a share on the that computer.... but when I try to access it through the add printer dialog it says nt_session_access_denied03:50
Hobbseeos2mac: then hit ok on that error message, the back button once, click "guest" instead of anonymous, then next03:51
martinHobbsee, awesome. :)03:51
Hobbseethen click where you just did, to get the NT_session_access_denied error03:52
os2macI knew that wouldn't work I have the guest acct disabled.03:52
Hobbseejust try it03:52
os2macI couldn't even get the network to expand that time.03:52
Hobbseeah, bummer03:52
Hobbseetry with a specific login, mabye?03:53
os2maclemme try03:53
Hobbsee_awaylunch03:53
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SbCl3i just tried to remove gcc4 and forgot that there were dependencies and now many programs have been removed...is there any way to get everything back stort of a reformat?03:58
naliothSbCl3: install build-essential04:00
SbCl3what's that, and how do i install it?04:00
SbCl3apt-get seems to have removed itself :/04:00
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os2macHobbsee got it... I used the users account that was actually logged into the computer and manually entered the server and printer name and it worked.04:02
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os2macHobbsee did you see my earlier message?04:08
SbCl3anyone?04:09
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Hobbseeos2mac: sorry, just got back04:21
Hobbseeos2mac: yay!04:21
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trothi have just downloaded a movie (torrent) that is 2 cd's big, each folder (cd 1 and 2) contains about 40 rar'd files. i have already installed unrar but i need to know how to unrar them all to make one big video file04:39
naliothtroth: open a console in those dirs04:39
trothk04:39
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Burgundaviais there a graphical way to enable root login04:40
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naliothtroth: then find what files are there, and "unrar x file.001.rar" 04:40
HobbseeBurgundavia: i've found that the easiest way is to tell kdm to do a console login, and then login via console, and go sudo startx04:42
Hobbseeor log in as root in a virtual terminal, then go start x04:42
Hobbsee*startx04:42
Hobbseebut you need to kill the current x first, by telling it to use a console login04:42
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RiddellBurgundavia: system settings-> users & groups -> set password04:43
RiddellI guess04:43
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Hobbseehmmm...i dont remember if i ever got that to work04:44
Hobbseeit's been a while since i had to try04:44
BurgundaviaRiddell, think you could fill in the "In Kubuntu" section under "Enabling graphical root login"?04:44
Tm_TI hope that will ever be enabled too easily04:45
Hobbseeyou definetly dont want the root account enabled in the GUI - the only reason you need it at all is because all hell has broken loose04:45
BurgundaviaHobbsee, I completely agree, but we need to document a sane way for them to do it if they wish04:46
Hobbseehehe that is true04:47
Tm_Tnoooo04:47
Tm_Tsoon we have 30% of users doing all things as root04:47
Hobbseein my case, cos i'd screwed up my own sudo permissions, so couldnt really do anything except login as root04:47
BurgundaviaTm_T, we have covered the page with warnings04:47
Hobbseebut i'd not document it at all, and point them straight to !root04:47
RiddellBurgundavia: not tonight04:48
BurgundaviaHobbsee, !root points to RootSudo, the page I am editing04:48
BurgundaviaRiddell, np04:48
yannzdoes (k)ubuntu have quake repositories? :D quake, as in quakeforge?04:48
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Hobbseeah, i see...04:48
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anyweb_onehi04:51
ClayGare there any decent apt-get'able games to paly?04:52
ClayGplay04:52
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anyweb_oneone question. how i can configure the internet in kubuntu?04:52
anyweb_oneanyone04:54
naliothanyweb_one: do you have broadband?04:54
anyweb_oneyes04:55
naliothanyweb_one: then it should "just work"04:55
anyweb_onewhen i was installing it, some stupid friend put an IP and I need to clear it04:57
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Riddellanyweb_one: kmenu->system settings->network04:58
anyweb_oneok04:58
anyweb_oneand now....?04:59
Riddellit depends on what you're wanting to set up05:02
anyweb_oneautomatic ip05:03
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Riddellanyweb_one: tell it to use DHCP then05:04
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anyweb_oneman, how you can see, i`m a newwwwwwwwwwwwwwbiiiiieeeeeee   , What the hell is DHCP05:07
Riddellit's the protocol where your computer goes "what IP am I?" and the router goes "here's your IP"05:08
anyweb_oneoh... thanks05:09
anyweb_oneI'm going to re-install it05:09
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thompahi05:10
thompaif i create a shortcut in kde desktop is there a way to prevent a conflict on gnome desktop?05:10
thompaor maybe i should just add things to panel05:11
Riddellwhat sort of conflict?05:12
thompapictureless icons05:12
thompalike as soon as i installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu the trash icon was pictureless05:13
Riddellspooky05:13
thompahow so?05:14
thompaits because they use the same initiate file or something05:14
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nalioththompa: gnome doesn'nt load the kde icons for the kde trashbin05:15
thompaso some icons will work then05:15
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thompaif i create a desktop shortcut in kde what should happen in gnome desktop?05:18
naliothit will probably be in both desktops, since your Desktop folder is the same05:18
thompalet me see05:19
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thompai created a desktop shortcut in kde and its pictureless in gnome05:26
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thompain gnome its usr/share pixmaps or something05:27
thompaso it seems gnome overwrites kde05:27
thompais there some way to have the same desktop icon in both gnome and kde ?05:28
thompano big deal really05:29
naliothnothing is overwriting anything05:29
nalioththe icon is available to kde but not gnome05:29
Riddellthompa: what icon is being used?05:30
thompaso if i create a launcher in gnome its in kde05:30
thompabut not the other way around05:30
thompai created a shortcut for bzflag in kde with the bomb icon05:31
thompathen if i switch to gnome its missing05:31
thompaso in gnome i put there the green apple, so now i got the green apple in kde05:32
thompathe icon may not be available in gnome but it puts the shortcut there, gnome will make it available for kde also05:33
thompai know i should only use one desktop probably05:35
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thompastill it might mean i have to use gnome to configure the kde desktop05:36
kkathmanthompa: that would be an interesting feat05:37
thompawell just for icons05:38
thompabrb05:39
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VivaldiVivaldi i see05:47
Vivaldiubotu Are you smoking crack?05:47
VivaldiVivaldi no05:47
Vivaldiubotu Are you on ritalin?05:47
ubotuVivaldi: What?05:47
ubotuVivaldi: Syntax error in line 105:47
Vivaldi:)05:47
Vivaldifunny05:47
kkathmanVivaldi: can we help you with something?05:51
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thompawell it seems so05:53
thompaif im using both kde and gnome and create a link to application i need to do it in gnome or no icon05:53
thompathat is, create a launcher in gnome05:54
kkathmanthompa: which GDM are you booting to?  You can boot to either one05:55
kkathmanbut not both 05:55
thompaia it because im not using kdm?05:55
kkathmandid you install kubuntu-desktop?05:55
thompayes05:55
kkathmanok, so when you reboot, on the splash/login screen you have the option of which session GUI you can use05:56
thompayes05:56
thompaor log out05:56
kkathmanif you choose gnome, you dont access KDE/Kubuntu05:57
kkathmanand vice versa05:57
thompathat makes sense05:57
kkathmanif you choose KDE, then it uses that GDM05:57
ClayGkkathman, if you want to try other window managers check synaptic, I grabbed a few, blackbox ,fvwm2 and like 3 or 4 others05:57
ClayGto mess with05:57
thompaso if i switch to kdm it should work here05:57
kkathmanClayG: absolutely... you can install as many as you wish05:58
kkathmanand try them all05:58
naliothkkathman: it's a "kde icons aren't found by gnome issue"05:58
kkathmanbut you'll eventually choose one or the other05:58
thompais kde 3.5 safe to play with?05:58
naliothit is a "release Candidate"05:58
kkathmannalioth: well I can access the gnome icons from kde...I dont know about the other way around05:58
kkathmanthe gnome icons have to be somewhere :)05:58
ClayGYou know what, that's funny you say that05:59
ClayGbecause it's the same way here05:59
naliothkkathman: that is what thompa said, he makes his launchers in gnome and has icons in both05:59
thompai created 3 links to apps in kde and they are missing in gnome05:59
ClayGI think it's because mine is based on gdm and I installed kde on ubuntu05:59
ClayGso it's like native or something, lol05:59
kkathmanyah I got no idea about gnome..havent used it in so long05:59
thompaif a make a kde wi fi launcher in gnome it shows in kde05:59
thompabut not the other way06:00
kkathmanthompa: I dont know why...the icon is put in a certain location06:00
ClayGok , do you both run ubuntu /w kde or kubuntu?06:00
kkathmanand you should be able to access it06:00
kkathmanClayG: I run KDE, but have Gnome as a backup if I need it06:00
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kkathmanbut I boot to KDE06:00
kkathmanand stay there06:01
thompaClayG: im using gdm not kdm06:01
kkathmanGDM = graphical display manager06:01
nalioththompa: it's not a GDM or KDM issue06:01
thompaok06:01
kkathmanand nalioth is reight06:01
kkathmanright06:01
thomparight06:01
thunderboltDoes anyone know how to get the kicker to maximize and activate menus if they aren't currently active, and minimize them if they are?06:02
Vivaldii do  not understand06:03
kkathmanVivaldi: what dont you understand?06:03
thunderboltI want it to select and activate the application if I click on the button on the taskbar, but if I click on the button of the currently active application, it should minimize the currently active application.06:04
kkathmanthunderbolt: all the kicker options are accessible under "panels" in the system settings06:04
kkathmanthunderbolt: typically that works if you enable the system TRAY option06:04
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thunderboltWhere is that under, the panel configure options?06:05
kkathmanthunderbolt: the reason it wont work exactly the way you say, is because of the concept of multiple desktops06:05
thunderboltAh, they don't mix?06:05
kkathmanthunderbolt: yes. .. right click on the kicker and choose ADD TO PANEL...then Applet..then System Tray06:06
thunderboltkkathman: thank you.06:07
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kkathmanthunderbolt: not really, they MIGHT work if you had the application open in the same desktop, but it also might open a second instance ..like a browser.  However if you use the system tray, then the minimize/maximize works with the mouse clicking on the icon06:07
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kkathmansure no problem06:07
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thompamy themes and stles are looking kind of weird06:08
thompai thought it should be plastic by default06:08
thompawhere are the borders?06:08
kkathmanthompa: you can change that in the system settings if you are in KDE06:08
kkathmanif you have gnome questions you'll have to ask nalioth :)06:08
thompai know, its just does not seem consistant.06:08
thompaon the notebook install it was different06:09
kkathmanthompa: its pretty consistent for me at least06:09
thompait might be my nvidia card06:09
kkathmanwell I have an nVidia also06:09
kkathmanbut its a desktop too06:09
thompathe plastic theme is supposed to give you borders06:10
ClayGanyone know a good uptime monitor, but an app06:11
ClayG?06:11
thompawhen i choose a list from the menu is all white border06:13
thunderboltClayG: could you rephrase the question?06:14
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ClayGfor a website06:15
thunderboltlike a uptime monitor that outputs html or some such?06:15
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ClayGsomething to check the uptime, lets say your hosting company tells you that they are up 99.9 percent of the time06:16
ClayGand you want to really see how often the server/site is unreachable06:16
thunderboltuhh, you could have a script randomly ping it, to see how often its unreachable06:16
ClayGI am sure there are cli ones, as it's just pinging it over and over for how ever long06:16
thunderboltor do like a links dump..06:16
thunderboltright.06:16
ClayGbut i rather have a gui06:16
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thunderboltCome on, use the cli, it'll make you stronger ;-)06:17
ClayGlol yeah but I want it pinged every 10-30 seconds06:17
ClayGcan you imagine sifting through 1 weeks worth of ping results?06:17
thunderboltthat's what awk, sed, and perl are for :)06:18
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thunderboltand GNUPLOT06:18
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ClayGsorry, dont want to use the newbie shield  but I dont know that stuff06:19
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ClayGbut not knowing is no exscuse I suppose, heck there was a time I didn't know how to walk06:19
thunderboltI have to do a lot of data graphing for school and such, so gnuplot is second nature to me.06:19
naliothubotu: tell ClayG about cli06:20
ClayGHeh I should have bookmarked this page a long time ago06:20
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_isaacHi, i have a problem... can you helpme????07:32
_isaacI have a ibook, whit an ati radeon mobility, how can i install it???07:34
thunderboltI'm pretty sure you can just install it using the PowerPC (PPC) install CD07:35
_isaacyes07:35
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_isaacand i have a resolution 640 x 48007:36
_isaacwhat can i do???07:37
thunderboltright click on the desktop, click on configure desktop, can you change the resolution under 'display'?07:37
nalioth_isaac: the install works well with no problems on ibooks07:38
_isaacwell... in this ibook, my max resolution is 640x480 but in osx i had a 1280x720 07:42
naliothubotu: tell _isaac about fixres07:42
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_isaacThis is my first time...07:43
_isaacin linux07:43
nalioth_isaac: ubotu sent you a private message07:44
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_isaachi again, i'm =08:05
nalioth_isaac: howdy08:05
_isaacif i install  kubuntu from dvd image, the resolution fixes???08:06
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_isaacnalioth: what can i do???08:10
naliothno. did you follow the instructions ubotu sent you?08:12
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nalioth_isaac: did you follow the instructions in ubotus private message?08:13
fatejudgerOk, I really don't understand this. Safari is supposed to be based on KHTML, so theoretically, when I spoof the browser identification on Konq as a Safari browser, it should work. The problem is mail.google.com and google.com/ig don't work. You can't click on any of the links!08:14
fatejudgerIs there some way to get around this?08:15
naliothfatejudger: you can spoof the user-agent-string, but not the underlying software08:15
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fatejudgernalioth: obviously, but Safari is KHTML based08:16
fatejudgernalioth: I don't understand why something so big as links don't work when spoofed08:16
naliothfatejudger: you say gmail?08:16
fatejudgernalioth: I can't imagine Apple would change the way Safari handles links08:16
fatejudgernalioth: yes, gmail08:17
fatejudgernalioth: spoof Konq as Safari, you'll see08:17
_isaacYes, i read, but can't fix it...08:18
naliothfatejudger: it's not konqueror, i just went to gmail and signed in and deleted some spam08:18
fatejudgerWHAT?08:18
fatejudgernalioth: what version are you using?08:18
naliothkkathman: can you help _isaac ?08:19
fatejudgernalioth: I'm in the KDE 3.5 RC108:19
naliothfatejudger: then you need to report a bug, i'm using konq 3.4.2 under kde 3.4.308:19
kkathman_isaac: is there something I can help with?08:21
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_isaacI install kubuntu from cd install this afternon08:22
kkathman_isaac: ok08:22
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_isaacin a ibook, i see a resolution of 680x480, but when i try to change the resolution, i can't... 08:24
aftertafany adept heads about?08:24
naliothadept at what?08:24
aftertafdapper update is borked on debtags, the command debtags update and the end of the postinstall script returns a seg fault.08:24
kkathman_isaac: during the install, do you remember getting a screen that asks you about the various resolutions?08:24
aftertaflol bnal :) ever the one to have a good reply ;)08:25
aftertaf s/bnal/nalioth 08:25
_isaacno, never see about it...08:25
naliothaftertaf: welcome to developement hell08:25
nalioth!xcfg08:25
ubotuxcfg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:25
aftertafyeah :)08:26
aftertafjust wanted to let the devs know...; are they in ubuntu-dev?   by ANY chance ? ;)08:26
naliothaftertaf: that bug is old, at least more than 24 hours08:27
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naliothaftertaf: you should search and report bugs at bugzilla.ubuntu.com08:27
naliothaftertaf: bugzilla is the best place to report it, if it's not been reported already08:27
kkathman_isaac: then you might wish to reconfigure your xorg.conf file for those supported resolutions08:28
_isaacwow???08:28
fatejudgernalioth: should I report it under kdelibs or konq?08:29
kkathmanubotu tell _isaac about xorg08:29
naliothfatejudger: konq, i would presume, since it's a konq error08:29
kkathman_isaac: please check your pm from ubotu.. and follow those instructions :)08:29
nalioth!xcfg08:29
ubotuwell, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:29
fatejudgernalioth: but Konq is just a shell08:29
aftertafoki.08:29
fatejudgernalioth: kdelibs is the actual KHTML part08:29
naliothfatejudger: then use your best judgement08:29
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chaoticgeekhello all08:32
kkathmanhi there chaoticgeek :)08:32
chaoticgeekman I wish I had a real cd key for halo08:32
chaoticgeekthen I could play online08:32
chaoticgeekbut I'm cheap and got a cd key online so I could play through the story line08:33
naliothchaoticgeek: you can't wait for the movie?08:33
chaoticgeekI already beat the game08:34
chaoticgeek... I like to play online games...08:35
chaoticgeekstupid microsoft and bungie08:35
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kkathmanhi there raingrove :)08:41
raingrovehi kkathman08:41
raingrovei love kde 3.508:41
raingrove;)08:41
insanekaneoh damn ... i missed the ubuntu bug squashing day :/08:44
crimsunno you didn't08:45
crimsunit's today08:45
insanekaneoh ?! are you sure ?08:45
insanekanei thought it was on the 23rd08:45
crimsunyes, I'm sure.08:45
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kkathmanraingrove:  hows the 3.5 working for you?08:48
raingrovewell it's running fine. i am running it on suse though08:49
kkathmanahh ok08:49
kkathmanraingrove: could you tell me a little about SuSE..how much box I would need to run it for instance?08:50
raingrovehow much box? u mean the system requirements?08:51
kkathmanraingrove: is it true that you have to install 5 CDs??08:51
_isaaci did that you say, and now???08:51
raingrovekkathman : there is a one CD install version08:51
kkathmanraingrove: but there's also that 5 CD thing08:51
raingroveyeah..08:51
raingroveone cd version is a community produced thing. unfortunately the server hosting that file seems to be down08:52
raingrovebtw if u are comfortable with kubuntu, just stay with it08:52
raingrovethings are quite different in suse08:52
kkathmanI have an old Dell p2 450 with 128mb mem...is that too deficient?08:52
kkathmanyah I know they are...just have always been curious08:52
kkathmanI tried Fedora and its major bloat08:52
raingrovekkathman, hmm. i think suse is abit too heavy for that. 08:52
kkathmanrain ok08:53
kkathmanI'll stick with ubuntu08:53
raingrovemaybe u can use light linux like damn small linux - never tried it though08:53
raingroveoh.. GNOME and KDE eats up alot of memory 08:53
raingrovetry xfce408:53
kkathmanI have gnome + Ubuntu on it now08:53
raingrovegnome eats more memory than kde, i was surprised.08:53
kkathmanI am upgrading to breezy from hoary on it08:53
raingroveapt-get install xubuntu-desktop :P08:53
raingrovexfce4 is really fast08:54
kkathmanI might do a xubuntu-desktop install08:54
kkathmanah08:54
kkathmanyep08:54
kkathmanexactly08:54
raingrovedamn small linux looks interesting08:55
raingrovei might try it on a p2-266mhz junk i have08:55
kkathmanyah Ive done that08:55
kkathmanits ok08:55
raingrovehaha i call it a junk now.. it was pretty decent...erm.. back in 1997 or 199608:56
kkathmanyah I got my p2450 from Dell in like 199808:57
kkathmanthat was the cat's meow then :)08:57
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_isaaci did reconfigure de xorg and backup it, and what have to do now??? 09:08
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_isaackkathman: what can i do now??/09:15
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lzhz789Hi,How can i get "sharutils" package installed?when i type "sudo apt-get install sharutils",it says can't find package sharutils.Thanks!!!09:22
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fatejudgerlzhz789: then it isn't there09:23
fatejudgerlzhz789: what's the problem?09:23
lzhz789fatejudger: i have found sharutils in "packages.ubuntu.com",but i want to get it installed.09:25
fatejudgerlzhz789: then download it09:25
supoi'm having a problem i cannot seem to fix without help :/ i'm using kubuntu and i have installed nvidia drivers and done everything, set xorg.conf for composite and such, but still (for example a window decoration named crystal from kde-look) doesn't work :/ i've enabled the effects and such for themes but it just doesn't seem to work and i'm out of ideas.. i hope someone can help09:25
fatejudgerlzhz789: you probably don't have all the repos09:25
fatejudger!tell lzhz789 about repos09:26
lzhz789fatejudger: is it means repository?09:27
_isaachi, i did backup the xorg file, how can i charge the changes???09:29
supo_isaac, yes i did09:30
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_isaachi, i did backup the xorg file, how can i charge the changes???09:36
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gphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?10:00
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fatejudgergp: yeah, your computer is broken10:02
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_lzhz789fatejudger:i can't get update for this " http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found"10:09
_lzhz789i have tried server times10:09
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gpfatejudger: care to digress more?10:25
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fatejudgergp: have you tried installing a newer version of python?10:26
fatejudgergp: and are you using the .deb cedega or did you compile it from cvs?10:26
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gpI extracted the *.tar.gz file.10:26
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gpI have only the version of python that came with cedega.10:27
fatejudgerI don't believe cedega comes with python10:27
fatejudgerand you SHOULD be using the .deb10:27
gpIs there a way to delete all the files that came in the tar.gz?10:28
fatejudgerdid you make install?10:28
gpNo, I just untar'ed the tar file - that's what the 'howto' said to do.10:30
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^rob^hi there10:31
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gpI'll just download the .deb file.10:32
fatejudgergp: well delete them then10:32
fatejudgergp: yes, do that10:32
gpAlright.10:32
gpThanks./10:32
fatejudgergp: the deb works perfectly, you shouldn't have any problems10:32
^rob^ihow do i set CC environmen to point to the "gcc" version "3.4.5"10:34
^rob^i have them both10:34
crimsunCC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 [...] 10:34
^rob^ty10:37
^rob^any good tutorial about how to make iso and write it - to dvd ?10:39
^rob^for data backup10:39
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kairu0hey all10:58
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gathmorning11:01
aftertafmorning11:02
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gathhow i can completely remove kubuntu from my computer?11:02
_mephisto#irchelp11:04
gathwhat?11:05
kairu0morning11:06
kairu0gath, install another OS in its place?11:07
gathit is possible?11:07
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kairu0gath: yes. what do you want to replace ubuntu with11:10
kairu0oops kubuntu11:10
gathi format the partition11:11
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kairu0gath, formatting and clearing the MBR will remove kubuntu completely11:15
gathbecause something iss wrong with my kubuntu11:16
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rosco_hi11:23
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kairu0hi robotgeek 11:31
kairu0oops11:31
kairu0hi rosco_ 11:31
robotgeekkairu0: hi11:34
kairu0whats up robotgeek 11:38
robotgeekkairu0: nm, just lurking11:39
kairu0lol11:44
kairu0beats 'prowling'11:45
robotgeekyeah :)11:45
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Loonhi all12:15
robotgeekhola12:15
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Loonciao12:15
robotgeekLoon: already :)12:16
LoonI am a new user of Kubuntu!12:16
DelvienAny way to have amaroK be less hefty on the CPU/mem load?12:16
robotgeekDelvien: ah, not really. i've tried changing themes. and turning off the last.fm stuff works fine12:16
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Delvienrobotgeek so yougot it to be lighter?12:17
robotgeekDelvien: it's running at 11% of my cpu12:17
Delvienwhat engine you running?12:17
robotgeekgstreamer12:17
robotgeekDelvien: i think you might have suggested it to me before12:18
Delvienah hehe12:18
Delvienit sounds the best 12:18
Delvienits running 40% of my CPU..12:18
robotgeekthat sounds quite a lot12:19
Delvienaye12:19
Delvienim running 1.3.1 is there a newer version?12:19
robotgeeki'm running the same, i think12:20
robotgeekyup, the same12:20
robotgeekppc is the r0x0rs :)12:20
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usercamp5aloowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww12:21
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robotgeekhellow12:22
Loonand about kaffeine?12:22
Delvienrobotgeek ah , have to have it open a while,  now running 6% and playing music too :P12:22
usercamp5hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh12:22
robotgeekDelvien: i think it takes some juice intially while organising12:23
Loonrobotgeek it seems that you know almost all, I have a question 4 you, if ou can!12:23
Delvienrobotgeek aye, turned off "get related artist info" or whatever was in last.fm12:23
robotgeekLoon: we do what we can12:24
Loonkaffeine does not work12:25
Loonwhen I try to reproduce a song or a movie it telles me that there are no plugins..12:25
Loonpardon, no decoders for the stream :-/12:26
robotgeekLoon: i belive you need codecs12:26
robotgeekubotu: tell Loon about w32codecs12:26
Loonok12:27
LoonI hve downloaded win32codecs and put them in /usr/lib/win32 right?12:27
robotgeekLoon: i belive the .deb package should do all the groundwork for you12:28
Loonlet's try ;-)12:29
Loonm12:35
Loonnothing happened12:35
robotgeekLoon: did you install the package with sudo dpkg -i w32codecs-blahblah.deb12:35
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Loonyep12:36
Looni come from Debian12:36
robotgeekLoon: do you have totem-xine installed?12:37
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Loonno12:38
LoonI never had...12:38
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robotgeekLoon: get that, i believe that works well with codecs12:39
Loonok...i try to turn around kaffeine12:40
robotgeekLoon: though, i think kaffeine has an option to select decoders12:40
Tm_Ttotem(-xine) is yuk12:41
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Loonhehehe12:41
Loonin my list i have totem and totem-gstreamer....12:44
Loonnot xine!12:44
thoreauputictry kaffeine-xine12:45
thoreauputic!ino kaffeine-xine12:45
ubotuthoreauputic: I give up, what is it?12:45
thoreauputichah12:45
thoreauputic!info kaffeine-xine12:45
ubotukaffeine-xine: (xine engine for kaffeine media player), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.7-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 174 kB, Installed size: 548 kB12:45
Loonkaffeine-gstreamer12:45
Loonm!12:46
thoreauputicLoon: install that package and you'll have a choice of engines in kaffeine12:46
Loonit seems that I have to allow universe packages too...12:46
thoreauputicof course - why not?12:46
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Loonare they ok? 12:47
thoreauputicsure12:47
Loonuniverse multiverse...anything?12:47
Loonor only universe restricted?12:47
thoreauputicLoon: they are supported by the community - the MOTU (masters of the universe) ;)12:47
Loonlet's try...i can always reinstall ;-)12:48
mrmarcelhi12:48
thoreauputic!tell Loon about repos12:48
thoreauputicLoon: heh - you won't have troubles with universe and multiverse12:48
Loonok ok12:49
LoonI'mquite more a philosofical then a programmer...12:49
Loonbut I trust Synaptic when I add universe packages and it telles me that they aren't supported...12:49
thoreauputicthey aren't supported by Canonical - they are supported by the community12:50
Loonok12:51
Loonlet's trust the community ;-)12:51
thoreauputicit's really just a commercial/ business issue - Canonical can't support over 17 000 packages ;-)12:51
Loon!info localepurge12:51
ubotulocalepurge: (Automagically remove unnecessary locale data), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 164 kB12:51
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skypadoes the (k)ubuntu install cd has a rescue console?12:53
skypaneed to do some repartitioning12:53
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os2macdoes anyone know where I can download the offical unbuntu artwork?12:59
robotgeekart.ubuntu.com ?12:59
robotgeek!art12:59
ubotumethinks art is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork12:59
Looni have installed kaffeine-xine and i'm removing kaffeine-gstreamer...01:01
os2maclart's back... ok how about the offical ubuntu desktop....that is not on either of those pages.01:02
os2machehe..robot..your !art looked like lart for a sec...01:02
os2macsorry01:02
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Loonfiewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww01:06
Loonit works01:06
thoreauputicLoon: you don't have to remove kaffeine-gstreamer really01:07
thoreauputicyou just choose your engine in the menu01:07
Loonok01:07
Loonbut i did...01:08
Loonif i don't need it....01:08
Loonit's only entropy01:08
Loonor not?01:08
thoreauputic*shrug* it just sits there so I guess it doesn't drain reources - and it's pretty small ( a plugin)01:09
thoreauputic*resources01:09
thoreauputicsomething like 76k According to apt-cache show kaffeine-gstreamer01:11
Loonok01:12
thoreauputicheh - you probably would never use it though ( gstreamer has some maturing to do IMO)01:12
thoreauputicit's OK for audio, but video is a bit tougher01:12
Looni set it up again...but if  kaffeine will be corrupted, l'' remove01:12
thoreauputicit won't hurt anything :)01:12
thoreauputicapt/ dpkg /adept or whatever takes care of you ;-)01:13
Loonand what about noatun...it crushes and seems useless....as amarok...I'have always used xmms01:13
thoreauputicamarok is usually very good - it crashes ? I would be surprised01:15
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Loonlet's try amarok01:15
thoreauputicyou can also get a xine engine for amarok, or a gstreamer engine (both work fine)01:15
Loonm01:15
thoreauputicamarok-xine, amarok-gstreamer01:15
Loongstreamer did'nt work before01:16
Loonnothing...even with xine engine it telles me "List finished"01:17
thoreauputicactually amarok comes with both by default if I read correctly01:17
thoreauputicyou installed w32codecs and gstreamer0.8-mad etc ?01:17
thoreauputichave you read the wiki page about restricted formats?01:17
thoreauputic!tell Loon about restricted01:18
Loonthe mad no...i'm setting up now01:19
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Loon:-) gstreamer0.8-mad missing!!! Now amarok works01:22
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hendydoes anyone know, why i cant set my IP address and route address using "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" but the result is always show my IP address is 192.168.2.1, and i cant enable / disable the interface either... :(01:41
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Loondo anyone (unluckly) use S3 Savage 4 video card?01:48
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silensiushi does possible to install on ubuntu a windows sofware ?01:49
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hendyoh.. i already figure it out :)01:56
hendybut the problem now is how can i install HTB(bandwith management) with apt -get? :(01:57
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l3msilensius: you can use WINE 02:07
l3msilensius: if it is not a game, chances are it'll work 02:08
Loonhi kubunters!!!02:12
LoonSee ya nex time!!! 02:12
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robotgeekl3m: :)02:14
l3mhrhr02:14
silensiusthanks l3m02:15
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_spinitaliani?02:25
gathhello02:26
Kamping_Kaiserhi gath, hi _spin02:26
Kamping_Kaiser_spin: try ubuntu-it02:26
gathwhere i can get a new sources list? i have allready installes kubuntu breezy02:27
Kamping_Kaiserwhy do you need a new one?02:27
Kamping_Kaiser!sources02:27
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:27
gathbecause, something i can not download02:28
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Kamping_Kaiserlook at what ubotu said02:29
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gathbut maybe , i only have to uncomment the files in the sources.lst02:32
gathyes, that is all02:32
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gathanybody knows , how i can listen some mp3`s02:55
gath?02:55
gath!media02:55
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, gath02:55
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gath!mp302:56
ubotuto enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:56
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andreas__is it possible to change the size of the icons in kmenu?03:30
andreas__I want them bigger03:30
andreas__I found out, nvm03:35
devlin7I downloaded and burned the i386 install CD of Kubuntu, verified the MD5sum as being correct. At the same point everytime I get a error reading from CD-ROM. I've tried 2 burns so far with same result. anyone know what causes this?03:35
l3mdo you try to read the cd in the same drive as you burned it?03:38
devlin7No, I am installing to a computer that doesn't have a RW drive. If it helps its always at "Load Installer components from CD"03:39
l3mdo other cd's you've burned on your rw work on that computer?03:40
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devlin7yes, 2 weeks ago I downloaded & burned SUSE 10.0 and it read and installed all 5 cd's03:41
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carsteni downloaded bittorrent 4.2.0 from http://www.bittorrent.com/ i installed the .deb via konqueror, how can i start bittorrent?03:41
l3mdevlin7: hmm weird. dunno, sry03:42
l3mcarsten: the console bt is btdownloadcurses <torrent> . why didn't you just use apt-get ? bittorrent is in kubuntu 03:43
carsteni used the apt-get bittorrent but it is old. like REAL old03:43
l3mtry bittornado03:44
devlin7hmmm... one thing different with the burning. I will be PO'd if its Roxio's ISO burning... its the only different thing entered into the mix. just thought of that. It over took my old iso program03:44
l3mor, if you want a graphical client, use azureus03:44
l3mhttp://azureus.sourceforge.net/03:45
carstenyou told me about azureus yesterday, i followed the link and it is java. i dont think that java tools are good03:45
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l3mcarsten: well i don't really like java either but azureus is the most powerful bittorrent client i know03:45
l3mcarsten: maybe you can try ktorrent too, it's small and simple but graphical ;)03:46
Filladoindeed03:46
andreas__what a shitti bt client03:47
andreas__I mean for real03:47
andreas__there's not even a manpage03:47
l3mandreas__: which one?03:48
andreas__bittornado03:49
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l3mbittornado is great03:49
l3m;)03:49
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l3mand it's completely command compatible to the original bittorrent03:49
emanuelHello, should I upgrade to kde 3.5 rc1 while I'm on kde?03:50
l3memanuel: if you like unstable but new software, yes. if you just want a system that works, no03:50
carsteni still dont get it. under XP (sorry to mention that) the newes BT client, from the offical page can DL up to 3 torents at once, and has torrent queuing. here, even if i installed the 4.20 (i can check that in adept) the bittorrent program says it would be version 3.something. you cant even limit the upload capacity03:50
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emanuelI mean, is ok to upgrade KDE when KDE is running?03:51
l3mcarsten: of course you can03:51
l3mcarsten: btdownloadcurses --max_upload_rate x 03:52
carstenl3m:  youre right, there is a parameter. but under xp you had a small slider.03:52
carstenl3m: and what about torrent queuing?03:52
l3memanuel: yes, just restart into kdm after upgrading03:52
l3mcarsten: if you want a graphical client, use azureus03:52
emanuelOk, thanks.03:53
l3mcarsten: if you want a quick and powerful small client, use bt or bittornado03:53
l3mcarsten: you do have do decide what's important to you ;)03:53
andreas__there should be an alternative inbetween03:53
andreas__bt/btornado is practically useless to anyone but masochistic geeks, and azuerus is a pain to install03:54
l3mandreas__: there is. ktorrent e.g. 03:54
l3mandreas__: there are many inbetween03:54
l3mand bt is great03:54
l3mtogether with screen03:54
l3mandreas__: just because you don't know how to use something doesn't make it bad03:54
andreas__that's not what I'm saying03:55
carsteni will learn how i can write bittorrent skripts, and will use the curses thingie.03:55
l3mandreas__: in winxp you only have graphical clients. in linux, you can choose between graphical and console clients. i don't see how that's a disadvantage?03:55
mornfallcarsten: btlaunchmany is your friend03:56
carstenl3m:  there is not the same original graphic client in xp and linux.03:56
mornfallmaybe try ktorrent, too03:56
carstenbut perhaps i am always starting the wrong one03:56
l3mand apt-cache search bittorrent gives 9 hits03:56
l3mand that's without azureus which is not in kubu03:56
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l3mcarsten: well it's not linuxes fault if the bittorrent author doesn't make the same version for every system03:58
l3mcarsten: but i think bittorrent-gui is pretty close, no? 03:58
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carstenthe version i installed is called bittorrent-4.2.0.linux04:02
mornfallcarsten: you have interesting problems huh ;-)04:02
devlin7Well it wasn't Roxio's problem. I just burned yet another CD using a different iso maker and same exact error....04:02
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carstenmornfall: i dont understand what you are saying?04:03
mornfallnm04:03
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devlin713mm:  ah ha! what a strange problem I have found... Apparently what is causing the install error is the fact I have no NIC card. I carefully watched the install and thats when it craps out. 04:12
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devlin7tho I have a nic card... dunno why its doing that..04:14
l3mhmm weird04:14
l3mwhat kind of nic do you have?04:14
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devlin7dunno..."yet" will pull system apart. I am attempting install on an eMachine (garbage) PC someone gave me when they bought a new machine.04:17
l3mdevlin7: hmm maybe try the livecd04:17
devlin7odd thing is kubuntu says I have firewire which I do not have...04:17
l3msee if that works04:17
devlin7I have played w/ the live cd and it works perfectly thats whats so confusing04:18
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federicohello channel! I'm using Kubuntu Breezy Badger, and I have a problem with my K-Menu. In fact, it is not updated with new menu entries after installing software with Synaptic. I know not every program adds an entry, but my menu really seems to be broken!04:22
federicoAlso, changes with the menu editor aren't saved.04:22
federicoAlthough, every installed program has a proper link in /usr/share/applications. Has anyone an idea how to fix the menu?04:22
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devlin713mm:  ack! I did an integrity test and tho the MD5sum test passed the integrity test failed on ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz   does this help any in what could be wrong?04:24
l3myes04:25
l3minitrd contains many important parts of the system04:25
l3mmaybe try downloading the cd from another source04:25
l3mweird though, that the md5 passed04:25
devlin7I thought it was weird too.. I will try downloading from another server tho... crossin' my fingers lol04:26
l3mgood luck ;)04:27
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devlin7may sound stupid but could a bad nic card cause this? 04:29
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l3mno idea 04:33
l3mmaybe?04:33
l3m;)04:33
l3mdevlin7: does the nic work with the livecd?04:35
devlin7just wonderin'... this pc is weird but when I turn it off the nic is still active w/ the router04:36
gathhello04:37
gathi have some problems with breezy an a usb-stick04:37
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federico_lugath: me too. Or more exactly, with an Memory Stick card reader04:38
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gathfederico_lu:  yes with both04:39
gath!usb04:39
ubotugath: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:39
gath!media04:39
ubotuWish i knew, gath04:39
gath!usb-stick04:40
ubotugath: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:40
federico_lugath: my problem is, that when I transfer files (mostly mp3), it says they are saved on the stick, and they even show up correctly on Konqueror, but then my device can't play them (says they are corrupt, or the playback stops in the middle of the song etc). When transferring the same files with Windows things go fine.04:40
federico_luSame for you?04:40
gathno04:40
gathdid you save the stick before removing?04:41
federico_luyou mean unmount it? Yes I did. Did not help.04:41
gathmhh04:42
federico_luIt's a Sony Ericsson K750i mobile phone, which is detected as a standart card reader.04:42
federico_luOn Windows things go fine, don't know where the problem is ... :(04:42
federico_luwhat goes wrong on your system?04:42
gathi know this, sometimes win is better with such things like mp3 oder usb-stick 04:43
federico_luI agree. I know use our laptop for things like that.04:44
federico_luknow = now04:44
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gathif i put a stick on my system , konqi open, but no content; instead some error by loading media:/.......04:44
federico_ludid you do a "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?04:45
federico_luHad that problem with a fresh install of breezy badger too, updates resolved that problem.04:45
gathyes bevor 5 min04:46
gathbefor04:46
federico_luhmm maybe you have to reboot04:46
gathmybe, i`ll try it04:46
gathcu04:46
federico_lubye04:46
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emanuelOk, I have enought of kde 3.5 rc1, how can I downgrade to kde 3.4? :-) 04:48
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federico_luI didn't even notice any changes between those versions :) But I'm a bloody beginner ...04:50
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l3memanuel: well, remove the new apt source, apt-get --reinstall the whole kde, rename .kde in your home.... 04:50
l3mand restart04:51
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l3mpreferably while not in kde04:51
l3m;)04:51
emanuelWhat's the command to reinstall the whole kde?04:51
l3mapt-get --reinstall install kde .. but maybe you'd also have to reinstall some pkgs by hand04:52
l3malso, you have to abt-get update after removing the 3.5 source04:52
emanuelRight.04:52
emanuelI already did that...04:53
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naliothemanuel: get rid of the 3.5 sources list in your box, and ctrl-alt-f2, login and issue "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"04:56
naliothemanuel: make sure you update your apt after removing the 3.5 repositories04:56
emanuelA ver...04:56
emanuelThat's better "apt-get --reinstall install kde" said there was dependencies that wouldn't be installed.04:57
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emanuelnalioth: it was a very quick operation, I don't think it's downgraded...05:00
naliothemanuel: welcome to the world of beta software05:00
pigeonflightWhat changes the splash image at Boot up?05:00
SteleI don't care who killed him I want my MONEY!!!05:00
Steleaww crap sorry wrong channel05:01
pigeonflightthe Area where it shows the debug info as to what is ok and what failed05:01
pigeonflightIs it usplash?05:01
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emanuel:-D05:01
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emanuelnalioth: I was already there... :-D05:02
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pigeonflightthere is an xubuntu one now :-)05:03
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naliothemanuel: try the "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde" thing05:05
pigeonflightnalioth: Hi05:07
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naliothpigeonflight: howdy05:07
pigeonflightnalioth: How goes it?05:07
naliothpigeonflight: great! and you?05:07
pigeonflighttrying to redo some interface stuff05:08
naliothpigeonflight: great fun, i'm sure05:08
pigeonflightusplash as I understand it is the Grub menu that allows you to choose what you are booting into?05:09
kkathmanpigeonflight: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Changing_KDE_splash_screen.html05:09
emanuelnalioth: I get (traslated from Spanish): kde: Depends: kdesdk but it won't be installed.05:10
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emanuelThat's with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde".05:10
pigeonflightkkathman: This is for when KDE is starting?05:10
pigeonflightkkathman: I'm looking for the splash before KDE starts05:10
kkathmanits the KDE splash screen05:10
kkathmanwhich is what you asked for I thought05:11
pigeonflightkkathman: Well the one before Linux starts05:11
kkathmanohh.. hmm thats doesnt have anything to do with KDE05:11
pigeonflightI know05:11
pigeonflightIt has to do with k/x/ubuntu05:11
kkathmanwell, kind of05:12
kkathmankubuntu is ubuntu w/KDE05:12
l3mthere's a kernel bootsplash and then there's kdm and then there's the kde splash05:12
kkathmanright05:12
naliothemanuel: you have removed those repos URLs from your sources.list, right?05:12
kkathmanI dont know how to change the bootsplash but have you asked Uncle Google?05:12
pigeonflightl3m: I think the kernel bootsplash is what I'm looking for05:12
pigeonflightI didn't know it was called a bootsplash :)05:13
l3myou probably want apt-get install usplash and www.bootsplash.org05:13
kkathmanpigeonflight: look under Uncle Google...ubuntu bootsplash :)05:13
emanuelnalioth: I removed the one I had added to upgrade to kde 3.5 rc1.05:14
naliothemanuel: then "sudo apt-get remove kdesdk"05:14
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emanuelnalioth: it says kdesdk isn't installed.05:18
naliothemanuel: i suspect you'll need to do some creative thinking05:19
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emanuelOk, I'm where I didn't want to be. :-)05:20
naliothemanuel: what is wrong with 3.5?05:20
emanuelLocales...05:21
jochoanyone has used facturalux?05:22
emanuelI get strange simbols for some Spanish characters.05:22
emanuelThe System Setting tool window exced my screen resolution (1024x768).05:23
jochoi fixed it by changing in system settings regional ... disposiscion del teclado05:24
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emanuelA ver...05:24
jochofacturalux anyone know something?05:25
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devlin713mm: I am downloading unubuntu and going to try installing that then add KDE. The only server that I seem to be able to connect too for Kunbuntu is the one I got the bad iso from05:27
emanuelIt's extrange, 'cause all characters seems to be ok, except in the "Internet" item in the K menu.05:28
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l3mdevlin7: try bittorrent05:28
l3mdevlin7: were are you from?05:29
l3mi think you tried this: http://kubuntu.org/download.php ?05:29
naliothemanuel: was that the ONLY problem? that is known and easily fixed on the kubuntu forums05:29
naliothemanuel: the system settings window is a known problem, see the kubuntu forums05:30
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emanuelnalioth: that's all I found in a half hour test... Ok, thanks, I'll the forums.05:32
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pigeonflightkkathman-away: Thanks05:35
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yannzI'm from Oslo.05:51
yannz=D05:51
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devlin713mm: oh, yes my downloads were from http://kubuntu.org/download.php    the 1st US server I can't usually connect too the 2nd is where I got the iso w/ bad file05:53
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carstenis there anywhere a bittorrent linux support chat?06:00
naliothazureus runs on anything with a java implementation. dont ask me how, i dont use java apps06:01
pigeonflightl3m: I take it http://www.desktop-linux.net/bootsplash.htm is not accurate06:01
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devlin7I see bittorrent mentioned alot.. is it much faster than a direct download?06:04
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carstendevlin7: there is data in the net that can only be received via bittorrent06:05
naliothdevlin7: depends on the file06:05
carsteni installed the new 4.2 version and it wont work, so has anyone heard of such a chat?06:06
devlin7nalioth: in this case I am refering to the kubunto breezy download... my last direct one was strange. It passed the md5sum check but failed the integrety check06:06
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yannzdevlin7, it's not really faster. But it depends less on one single source of great bandwidth. 06:08
naliothdevlin7: what you do in that case is get the .torrent file for that image, and start it with you iso image as the target. bittorrent should fill in the missig pieces and bring it into spec06:08
devlin7nalioth: thanks for the suggestion, will give it a shot after my current d/l is finished :)06:10
naliothdevlin7: using bittorrent in that fashion sure beats d/l the whole iso again and hoping it works06:10
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monadhi... can anyone tell me how to stop kdm? i don't want to use it06:11
monadthere was a command similar to rc-update, but i don't remember the name06:11
naliothsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop06:11
devlin7lol true, I may not have dial-up but I also don't have the fastest broadband either... any less d/ling is helpful06:11
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bl3ssingwhy can't i look to my wmv file ... it has been 2-3 days since I've tried, and nothing.06:17
bl3ssing:-((06:17
binusdoes anyone know how to restart network?06:18
bl3ssingbut I won't quit so easy ...06:18
naliothbl3ssing: i'll say it again. microsoft changes their codecs regularly06:18
bl3ssingI'll try again and again ...06:18
bl3ssing:-)06:18
bl3ssingoh, I see nalioth, how about the mpg files?06:18
bl3ssingI can't see even the mpg06:18
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naliothubotu: tell bl3ssing about multimedia06:19
binusi was setting nat with iptables -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat 192.168.0.0/24  and set ip_forward to 1  but i still can't get the client connected to the internet :(06:19
binusplease help me06:19
naliothbinus: ask in #ubuntu 06:20
binusok06:20
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spkciao06:26
naliothhowdy06:26
spk[GStreamer Error]  ** gstmad.c(1206): gst_mad_checks_caps_reset: / 06:27
spkthread/decodenin1/mad2: Failed to negotiate 44100 Hz 2 ch06:27
spkho appena installato kubuntu ed i codec mp3,ma ho questo errore 06:27
spkqualcuno sa come si risolve?06:28
bhnaspk: #kubuntu-it06:29
regeya!english06:29
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, regeya06:29
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naliothubotu: tell spk about mp306:29
pigeonflight!upower06:29
ubotupigeonflight: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:29
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pigeonflight!splashy06:30
ubotupigeonflight: No idea06:30
pigeonflight!bootsplash06:30
ubotupigeonflight: Are you on ritalin?06:30
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spksorry06:30
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spksorry i thought i was in the italian kubuntu channel :-D i has just asked you about error06:31
spk[GStreamer Error]  ** gstmad.c(1206): gst_mad_checks_caps_reset: / 06:31
spkthread/decodenin1/mad2: Failed to negotiate 44100 Hz 2 ch06:31
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spki've already installed all the necessary codecs06:32
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naliothskypa: install gstreamer0.8-mad06:33
skypaoO06:33
naliothspk:  install gstreamer0.8-mad06:33
naliothsorry skypa 06:33
naliothfaulty tab-completion strikes again06:33
skypafaulty.. I call it lazy :p06:33
spkit says that it's already installed06:34
nalioththat's me, lazy06:34
naliothspk: it may be a bad music file, my italian isn't so good06:34
spkno i've tryed more than 1 mp3,and other people seem to have the same problem on the net06:36
spkbut because this is the first time i use kubuntu/ubuntu i think that for a problem like this it would be an easy solution,or not?06:37
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spksorry for my bad english :-P06:37
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naliothspk: have you used a different media player?06:38
nalioth!it06:39
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...06:39
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spksorry connection reset06:39
nalioth!it06:39
naliothubotu: tell spk about it06:39
toffminibonsoir06:40
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toffminicomment crer un profil sur Xchat06:40
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naliothno parle francais ici, toffmini anglais s'il vous plait06:41
nalioth!fr06:42
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:42
toffminiok dsol06:43
spknobody had that problem with mp3?06:43
toffminibye06:43
naliothtoffmini: be safe06:43
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gastsourceforge-downloads sind down :((06:45
skypa-sind +are06:46
gastah sorry06:46
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skypa:p06:46
gastcan anyone approve?06:46
gasti need hat file:06:46
gasthttp://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in-3.15.tar.gz?download06:46
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naliothgast: it is not in the repositories?06:48
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devlin7nalioth: how do I target an iso on my drive for a torrent?06:48
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naliothdevlin7: what torrent client do you use?06:48
gastnalioth, it is but i want to compile it on my own06:48
devlin7um...windows06:49
naliothgast: ah, i see.  you can ask google for this >>> mplayerplug-in-3.15.tar.gz06:49
devlin7nalioth: oh, ya mean like BitTorrent?06:50
naliothdevlin7: yes, like bittorrent06:51
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gastah thanks, found it at http://ftp.citkit.ru/pub/sourceforge/m/mp/mplayerplug-in/06:51
naliothdevlin7: where is your iso image and matching torrent file?06:51
devlin7nalioth: lol, then BitTorrent.. sorry brain is slipping today06:51
libbeni can pop azureus with TAB in terminal, but in katapult it wont show.06:51
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libbennalioth: i got the azureus working with symlink, and it pops with TAB in terminal. but in katapult it wont show. any ideas?06:53
naliothidk what katapult is. but i have heard it is diffecult to configure properly06:54
libbenu dont know what katapult? alt+space to get it popping in kubuntu/breezy06:55
naliothi know what katapult is06:55
devlin7nalioth: hmmm... my iso image is on c:\download\isos  my torrent file is mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/5.10/06:55
naliothdevlin7: download the .torrent file that matches your iso image to c:\download\isos06:55
devlin7nalioth: currently am doing so.. but it just seemed like it was doing a complete download. At least it is showing the same expected time.06:57
naliothdevlin7: stop.06:57
naliothdevlin7: you want breezy kubuntu ?06:57
devlin7what ever one is the current stable release06:58
naliothhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent06:58
naliothgrab that file06:58
devlin7wow big difference lol06:59
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naliothdevlin7: let's hope you didnt overwrite your md5 failing image with 14 seconds of new one07:01
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hussamis this kde 3.5 final  :) ? http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/07:06
naliothdevlin7: how we doing?07:08
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devlin7nalioth: it zipped right down in like less than a min or two.. 07:26
naliothso you have a good image now?07:27
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devlin7dunno, I'm about to burn it now07:27
naliothdevlin7: did the torrent say "download complete" ?07:28
devlin7yes07:28
naliothdevlin7: then you've learned something today07:28
nalioth;)07:29
devlin7nalioth: thats for sure! and I greatly appricate the help :)07:31
naliothdevlin7: share the love, help someone else07:32
SoyburgHello, I would like to kill a process that is hanging (mkdosfs) but I have no luck with kill -9 pid. What else can I do?07:32
devlin7I plan too, here in my town I take in old pc's, fix em up and give them away... hehehe its also my way of spreading linux!07:32
SoyburgAh, ok.  I killed the parent process.07:34
l3m devlin7 it worked? yay07:34
l3mso the old cd image was broken?07:34
devlin7still burning lol07:34
l3mah07:34
l3muhh good luck ;)07:34
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devlin7burn done, will know in two mins07:36
Cagliostrohi all, i wish to know if is possible to install kubuntu via livecd07:36
devlin7Cagliostro: I'm not positive but doubtful since there is a seperate iso file for making the installable version07:38
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Cagliostrobut i read about the ubuntu-express installer..07:39
devlin713m: okay now I'm gonna cry! it crapped out at the exact same place!07:39
l3m;(07:39
Cagliostrothe problem is that i need to install at a friend home, and he wants to check first which one he likes, so doing i will end up with 4cd and i want to avoid!!107:39
asimonCagliostro: That will be possible with future Dapper Drake, then there will be only one cd, livecd and installcd in one.07:40
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Cagliostroone more question, my friend has an athlon 1000 and 512 ram, can KDE run on it or will be too much slow and i should revert to gnome?07:40
endo602how do i permanently change xmodmap?07:40
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asimonCagliostro: My guess is that KDE should be acceptable fast on this system. I doubt that gnome will be much faster.07:41
Cagliostrothanks07:42
l3mCagliostro: i run KDE with full details on my ultraportable vaio with 1.1 ghz and 512 mb ram and it runs just fine07:42
Cagliostrothe system will be used mainly for calculation (university stuffs, big big big calculations..)07:43
skypaI have a text file with lot's of ^C02^B and such07:43
skypaany ideas on how to strip that?07:43
l3mCagliostro: i even thought about upgrading ram but checking my ram usage showed that i hardly ever use more than 300mb, even with tons of tabs in konqui open and 6 virtual desktops full of stuff07:43
binushow to install webmin in kubuntu?07:44
dipnlikskypa: sed07:44
l3mbinus: "sudo apt-get install webmin"07:44
binusl3m: yes.. its E: Couldn't find package webmin07:45
Cagliostrogreat07:46
asimonendo602: Do you mean automatically calling xmodmap when logging in? For a single KDE user you could put a small script which calls xmodmap into ~/.kde/Autostart or for all users you could put it into /etc/X11/Xsession.d07:46
l3mbinus: you need to enable universe 07:46
Cagliostroat now i am running ubuntu on my athlon 900 but i have only 256ram07:46
l3mtell binus about universe07:46
devlin7bbl07:46
naliothbinus: enable universe and multiverse07:46
l3mubotu tell binus about universe07:46
naliothubotu: tell binus about repos07:46
Cagliostrognome runs great07:47
binusthanks07:47
l3mCagliostro: kde runs better ;) 07:47
l3mhrhr07:47
dipnlikratpoison here, wayyyy better :)07:48
Cagliostroeheheh on my system didn't run at all :D wanted 380meg ram and i didn't have07:48
Cagliostro300 not 380 :D u are right, requested right 30007:49
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Cagliostroehehhe im sorry i cant try it, i saw it is really really neat07:50
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Cagliostrobut what happens if a huge mem is requested, like from those university programs? those calculus program request really huge mem..07:50
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Cagliostro:D07:52
l3mCagliostro: there's swap, you know07:53
us3ri'm crazy? i want to install all package of kubuntu (universe e multiverse include) ^^07:53
l3mCagliostro: and you can set the detail level07:53
Cagliostroyea but swap would SLOW the system alooot07:53
Cagliostrodetail level of kubuntu?07:53
dipnlikus3r: yes you are crazy07:53
l3mwith low detail level memory consumption goes down07:53
us3r^^07:53
l3mCagliostro: of kde07:53
Cagliostrowow07:53
Cagliostroim getting it07:53
Cagliostroat my home everything is ubuntu, my ahtlon 500 with 128meg, my celeron 300 with 192meg and my thunderbird 900 with 256meg.07:54
Cagliostroi've never tried kubuntu07:54
l3mhehe i have kubuntu only, and some debian servers ;)07:54
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l3mtried gnome a few times but the apps just never seemed as nice and fully developed as in kde07:54
us3ranyway, how i have to configure kubuntu for share connection to all pcs in lan ? :(07:55
l3mus3r: system settings->sharing07:55
Cagliostroi had to put gnome because damn it the ram kde eats is far out of my possibilkities07:55
l3mCagliostro: you spew propaganda from 2001 07:56
l3ma lot has happened since then07:56
l3m;)07:56
asimonCagliostro: I you want to save memory it may also be worth to try some of those lightweight window managers like fluxbox instead of gnome or kde. 07:56
Cagliostroyup i tried xfce07:56
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Cagliostroand i've a question about it, once i try and i dun like, how can i get rid of it with all the useless libs it left?07:57
Cagliostrol3m why propaganda?07:58
l3mCagliostro: because these days kde doesn't use more ram than gnome07:58
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Cagliostrothat's nice to hear!07:59
Cagliostrol3m how can i try it w/o installing, with a livecd?07:59
Cagliostrojust to check if my poor system can stand07:59
naliothCagliostro: kubuntu liveCD    www.kubuntu.org07:59
Soyburgis there an easy way to format an sd card with fat32 under kubuntu?  anything with a gui?08:00
asimonCagliostro: You could try to search for all installed packages containing xfce in the name and uninstall them. That should catch most of it.08:00
l3mSoyburg: hmm qtparted maybe08:00
Soyburgsounds intersting.08:00
Cagliostroasimon i tried it, but there are TONS of libs left..08:00
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Cagliostrofrom time to time i find one..08:00
Cagliostrois a pity nobody thought about such an utility like "complete uninstall"08:01
asimonCagliostro: Too bad, for KDE and Gnome there are categories which one can choose under synaptic, but not for xfce.08:01
dipnlikCagliostro: at least in theory, aptitude is supposed to do that08:02
dipnlikCagliostro: don't know about GUI programs though08:02
Cagliostroaptitude is the package manager in kubuntu?08:02
asimonCagliostro: There is also "deborphan", which can find and list libraries which are no longer needed by other packages. But I never used it.08:02
Cagliostroi did use, but is damn useless08:03
Cagliostrofind only old packages of plugins or good gstreamer codecs08:03
Cagliostronot even a lib08:03
us3ruhm...:( i didn't find system - settings --> sharing :(08:03
asimonYes, that doesn't sound very useful.08:03
naliothaptitude is a terminal program08:04
asimonus3r: In system settings it's under "Internet & Network", third entry here08:04
Cagliostroi heard about aptitude, but works only if u install stuffs tru it..08:04
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naliothCagliostro: it works fine, all the time. you just wont get all it's benefits unless you use it in a dedicated manner08:05
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troyI installed some debs for amarok from SVN that are not built for kubuntu -- had to remove the existing amarok, all is well, only I had to install the new once with --force-depends with dpkg08:05
Cagliostrowhy they didn't integrate with gui in kde or gnome08:06
Cagliostrodinner ready!08:06
troynow whenever I try to do apt-get, etc. it complains about depends and won't let me proceed08:06
troyany ideas?08:06
us3rasimon: connection preferences?08:06
asimonus3r: It's called "Sharing"08:06
us3rthere isn't...08:07
asimonstrange08:07
us3ronly sharing there isn't...there is: "desktop sharing" and "file sharing", but only "sharing" no :(08:07
dipnlikCagliostro: aptitude has a CLI but not a GUi. Quite nice08:07
us3rmaybe i've to install a package for this ?08:08
l3mtroy: apt-get -f install 08:08
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asimonus3r: Prabably ... but don't ask me which one08:08
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us3rok.. :(08:09
alpaxco?????????''08:09
houdinihi there @ all!08:11
alpaxcohi08:11
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troyl3m: didn't work08:13
troyl3m: I'll try again later 08:13
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martinAny good tool similar to Sisoft Sandra or Everest available in Adept?08:14
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martinTools for giving you system information08:15
naliothmartin: in konsole, type "sudo lshw"08:16
libbenbut thats text mode only08:16
libbenhe may want a more gui'able one =)08:17
martinThanks :D08:17
libbenor he can use | grep cpu and so on08:17
libbento get just what he wants to know08:17
troykinfocenter?08:17
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martinKInfoCenter is nice but I need a tool to give more detailed PnP information e.g the RAM specs in my notebook (PC2700 or PC2100 etc). Any ideas?08:21
binuswhat is the default password for webmin08:21
naliothmartin: sudo lshw08:21
binusthe user is root, but i don't know how to get in :(08:22
troymartin: lshw should do it, but it's damned ugly :P08:22
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martinsudo lshw gave me the size of the modules installed but not their speed. Gave me a lot of other info though :P08:23
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oshbinus: it's nothing. It copies the root password but as that's unset you don't get a passwd for webmin. Copy your own from /etc/shadow08:27
binusok08:27
oshbinus: That is probably a bug and I should probably report it. If I can find the energy to register to bugzilla.ubuntu.com08:28
binusosh: the password is *08:28
binusroot:*:13111:0:99999:7:::08:29
oshbinus: that's the same as "account locked" if I'm not misinformed.08:29
binusso i can't get in to webmin? :(08:29
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binuscan i use another user and password?08:29
oshbinus: sure you can. you just have to hack it a little first.08:29
binusosh: how to do it?08:30
oshbinus: you found the file where webmin looks for user and password?08:30
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binusyes it's miniserv.users08:30
binusi found the information here:08:31
binususerfile=/etc/webmin/miniserv.users08:31
binuskeyfile=/etc/webmin/miniserv.pem08:31
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guptaAny way to convert ta.bz2 package to deb?08:32
oshbinus: That's the one. Then look at /etc/password and replace the * in "root"  with the encrypted password for your regular account and you're good to go.08:32
oshbinus: miniserv.users is the place to loook08:32
naliothgupta: nope. thats a source holding archive, i'd imagine08:32
binusosh, ok just a minute08:32
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bettseHow do I set my timezone in kubuntu?08:33
binusso i just need to add binus:myencryptedpasswordfrometcpassword  in miniserv.users?08:33
guptanalioth: it doesn't look like a source archive :http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/08:33
naliothgupta: open it and see if it has a README08:34
binusi mean /etc/shadow08:34
oshbinus: either that or change the root:*: <-- * to yourencryptedpasswordfrometcshadow08:34
guptaok 08:34
oshbinus: replace the * is what I mean if that was a bit unclear.08:35
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Cagliostroback08:36
binusthanks... it's work :) thanks a lot... i want to see my iptables conf & shorewall from here08:36
oshbinus: you're welcome. 08:37
OjwIf a configuration prorgam being run by dpkg consistantly fails, is there any way to get apt working again, so that it doesn't try to resume configuring the half-installed program each time it starts?08:37
MitjaI don't get this: if I open # konqueror, I get a panel on the left - tree browser, but if I open it as $, I the panel is not displayed, even F9 won't invoke it.08:38
Cagliostrol3m are u still here?08:38
naliothMitja: you mean $ = root?08:39
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l3m Cagliostro yes08:39
Cagliostrogreat :D08:39
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Cagliostroi am downloading the livecd08:39
Mitjanalioth, # root, but  $ as user from desktop08:39
naliothMitja: in a console, type "konqueror --help"08:40
Cagliostroi am gonna test it soon, but, btw, how to reduce the visual quality08:40
Mitjanalioth, I did that and stumbled upon various profiles, but to no avail08:40
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l3mCagliostro: hmm, usually it asks you when you start kde for the first itme08:41
l3mtime08:41
naliothMitja: i'm lost atm08:41
l3mCagliostro: i'll check where the setting is in the menu, mom08:41
l3mCagliostro: btw do you know "apocalypso" by robert rankin08:41
Cagliostrouhm no08:41
Cagliostrowhat's that :D08:41
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l3mCagliostro: nevermind, just a book where a char with your name appears ;) 08:42
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l3mhmm it seems the visual settings are not in one place except when first starting ( since they belong into the different categories, window behaviour, sound and so on )08:43
l3mbut anyway, if you have 512 meg you can use all settings and you'll still have tons of ram left08:44
Cagliostroah well, that means i can't try with 256meg08:44
Cagliostroi wanted to try on this computer08:45
l3mi currently use 35% of my half gig for disk caching ( that is, it's essentially empty just used for optimization since empty ram is no good ;) )08:45
l3mshould work fine with 256 too08:45
SniperDevilI like my 2 gigs.08:45
Cagliostroyeah, but swapping? ok let me burn the cd and i try :D08:45
l3mSniperDevil: unfortunately my ultraportable's ram is quite expensive... ;(08:46
slow-motionhallo08:46
SniperDevill3m, hmm08:46
binuswhat is the module to manage iptables from webmin?08:47
l3mbinus: webmin-firewall08:47
l3mbinus: apt-cache search webmin iptables would have helped you ;)08:47
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SniperDevilI wish my provider offered Ubuntu instead of Debian.08:48
binusl3m: but when i try to install it from kynaptic it said broken package, and i should fix it.. but when i try to fix it.. it still show error08:48
aftertafSniperDevil: whats your provider?08:49
SniperDevilaftertaf, http://www.dehe.com08:49
l3mbinus: seems to work fine here... paste the error into the pastebin08:49
aftertafbinus: whats the broken error message?08:49
binusjust a minute08:49
SniperDevilaftertaf, they're extremely nice and helpful, but they -- well, actually SWSoft -- doesn't offer an Ubuntu template.08:49
SniperDevil*don't08:50
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aftertafSniperDevil: oki... a server hosting service. i get ya ;)08:50
SniperDevilYeah.08:50
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SniperDevilVPS, actually.08:50
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alistairlk08:51
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alistaircan you see my text?08:51
binushttp://pastebin.com/43740108:52
SniperDevilalistair, no08:52
binusalistair: no08:52
alistairthanks sniper ;)08:52
binushehe..08:52
alistairand binus :D08:52
alistairlol08:52
SniperDevilCan you see mine?08:52
alistairoh yes...08:52
alistair;)08:52
SniperDevilWhose is bigger?08:52
alistairthey're the same.08:52
SniperDevilAh.08:52
alistairlook m8s,08:52
SniperDevilSup homes.08:53
alistairI can't get xmms or xineui installed..08:53
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alistairi run "sudo apt-get install xine-ui"08:53
SniperDevilJAh08:53
alistairand it doesn't work.08:53
alistairit can't fine it.08:53
binusl3m & aftertaf : that's the error when i try installing from konsole and i got error either when installing from kynaptic08:53
alistair*find08:53
aftertaflooking binus 08:53
SniperDevilapt-get update?08:53
alistairi've done that08:53
SniperDevilWhat do you mean, it can't "find it"08:53
Mitjanalioth, solved :)08:53
binusalistair: yes?08:54
naliothMitja: good08:54
alistairalistair@fish:~$ sudo apt-get install xine-ui08:54
Mitjanalioth, /home/mitja was permitted to root only08:54
alistairReading package lists... Done08:54
l3mbinus: yes, you have shorewall installed, which conflicts webmin-firewall08:54
alistairBuilding dependency tree... Done08:54
alistairPackage xine-ui is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:54
alistairThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:54
alistairis only available from another source08:54
alistairE: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate08:54
alistairalistair@fish:~$08:54
l3mbinus: remove shorewall08:54
aftertafbinus: hmmm 08:54
aftertafthere you go08:54
binusohh :|08:54
Mitjanalioth, oops, I meant /home/user08:54
alistairany ideas?08:55
SniperDevilumm08:55
SniperDevilalistair, it's not a package itself, but is referred to08:55
SniperDevili forget what those are called08:55
SniperDevilwhy don't you just install xine?08:55
alistairalistair@fish:~$ sudo apt-get install xine08:55
alistairReading package lists... Done08:56
alistairBuilding dependency tree... Done08:56
alistairE: Couldn't find package xine08:56
alistairalistair@fish:~$08:56
SniperDevilhmm, apt-cache search xine08:56
l3mok, i'm going hooome.. later guys08:56
alistairhmm..08:56
SniperDevilalistair, oh, I see. xine-ui08:56
SniperDevilit works for me 08:56
alistairalistair@fish:~$ apt-cache search xine08:56
binusi already remove shorewall08:56
alistairamarok-gstreamer - GStreamer engine for the amaroK audio player08:56
alistairamarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE08:56
alistairkaffeine-gstreamer - gstreamer engine for kaffeine media player08:56
alistairkaffeine - versatile media player for KDE 308:56
alistairlibxinerama1 - X11 Xinerama extension library08:56
alistairlibxine1c2 - the xine video/media player library, binary files08:56
alistairalistair@fish:~$08:56
SniperDevildon't paste everything!08:56
alistairso..08:56
alistairsry.08:56
SniperDeviloh, yours isn't as long08:56
SniperDevil:P08:56
SniperDevilumm, xine might be in multi/universe08:57
binusbut still i can't install webmin-firewall :( doh!08:57
alistairshould i do sudo apt-get install libxine1c2?08:57
SniperDevilno08:57
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suarsihi!08:57
SniperDevildeb http://mirrors.acm.jhu.edu/ubuntu breezy multiverse and deb http://mirrors.acm.jhu.edu/ubuntu breezy universe08:57
SniperDevilin /etc/apt/sources.list08:57
binusSniperDevil: is that for me?08:57
SniperDevilbinus, no08:58
SniperDevilfor alistair 08:58
SniperDevilsorry for not being clearer08:58
binusSniperDevil: no problem..08:58
alistairSniper: I can't access the url..08:58
SniperDevilhuh?08:58
alistairohh...  ur saying to add those urls to my source list?08:58
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SniperDevilyes...08:58
alistairk08:58
SniperDevilSniperDevil in /etc/apt/sources.list08:58
alistairk08:59
alistairbrb08:59
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binus:( i already did apt-get remove webmin-shorewall but i still got shorewall: Conflicts: webmin-firewall but 1.160-2 is to be installed. How to fix it?08:59
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suarsikubuntu-es09:02
suarsisorry09:02
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andreas__seems 3.5.0 is out09:03
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andreas__:o09:03
alistairI need to change permissions on my list folder to modify it09:03
alistairwhats the chmod for writable?09:04
alistairsudo chmod /etc/sources.lst xxx?09:04
naliothsuarsi: no no no09:04
naliothsuarsi: use "kdesu kate /etc/sources.list"09:04
naliothalistair: dont do it09:04
naliothsorry suarsi 09:05
suarsinalioth, sorry?? 09:05
naliothalistair: do NOT change perms on the sources.list09:05
alistairok09:05
suarsijajaja don't worry, be happy09:05
naliothsuarsi: my eye-tab coordination is not good today09:05
MitjaDoes anyone know where Winamp keeps its presets?09:05
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suarsixD09:06
alistairnalioth:  that deleted my sources file!09:06
naliothalistair: it did not09:06
alistairit opened kate with a blank document..09:07
naliothalistair: i was in such a hurry to keep you from changing the perms, i miswrote09:07
alistairhmm... 09:07
naliothalistair: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:07
naliothalistair: if the file is not in your home directory, do NOT change anything about it arbitrarily09:07
alistairk, thanks09:07
alistairthen i should just add "deb http://mirrors.acm.jhu.edu/ubuntu breezy multiverse and deb http://mirrors.acm.jhu.edu/ubuntu breezy universe"09:08
alistairto the end of the file?09:08
alistair:|09:10
alistairok, its done.  i backed up my original file if it screws it up :)09:10
naliothalistair: good job09:11
suarsisomeone have problems with the  knetworkconf like me? I can't configure my netcard :S 09:12
alistairhmm...09:12
alistairits still not working.09:12
alistaircan someone send me the contents of their working sources.list please?09:12
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naliothubotu: tell alistair about sources09:13
naliothalistair: the us repos are down atm09:13
naliothalistair: did you update your apt/adept after the sources.list change?09:13
alistairohh..09:13
alistairno.09:14
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alistairwhen will the US repositories be functional again?09:19
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naliothalistair: just use "archive.ubuntu.com"09:20
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naliothhowdy professor09:20
alistairnalioth: as a source?09:21
MitjaWhy can't I change permission to /media/partition with chown logged in as root?09:22
naliothalistair: in your sources.list, remove the us. and just leave it "archive.ubuntu.com/blah"09:22
MitjaI tried chown -R 777 user:user /media/part09:22
naliothMitja: because its NOT a chown problem09:22
Mitjanalioth, oh? please elaborate09:23
naliothMitja: be very careful with chown and superuser powers, you can botch up your box to the point of unusability09:23
naliothMitja: it's a perms issue in your fstab09:23
Mitjanalioth, is it possible to change it in console?09:24
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naliothMitja: it is.09:24
Mitjachmod didn't seem to do it right09:24
naliothMitja: no. and i hope you haven't damaged your sytsem09:24
Almindorwhy is mozilla package broken09:24
Mitjanalioth, don't worry about that09:24
naliothMitja: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"09:24
AlmindorDepends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed09:24
Almindor           Depends: mozilla-mailnews (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed09:24
Almindor           Depends: mozilla-psm (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed09:24
naliothalistair: are you using non ubuntu pkgs?09:25
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Almindorthis is IMHO a big bug and it's there for some time09:26
Mitjanalioth, is there a direct command?09:27
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Mitjato alter a specific dir?09:27
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alistairi'm using kubuntu...  I want xine-ui, so i removed the "us' from us.archive.ubuntu or whatever,09:27
alistairand it still doesn't find xine, or xmms, or anything...09:27
naliothMitja: no. you need to edit your perms correctly in your fstab09:27
alistair:'(09:28
Mitjanalioth, thx, appreciate it09:28
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kkathmanalistair: you have something odd with your repos then09:28
kkathman!info xine-ui09:28
tapanimgood evening09:28
ubotuxine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1680 kB, Installed size: 3416 kB09:28
tapanimhow to remove zombies?09:28
naliothalistair: are you using universe and multiverse repos?09:29
kkathmanalistair: make sure you have universe enabled09:29
naliothtapanim: i hope you have no zombies09:29
tapanimbut i have 209:29
kkathmanoops sorry nalioth didnt know you were helping :)09:29
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alistair# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:30
alistair# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:30
naliothalistair: those are not it09:30
naliothubotu: tell alistair about repos09:30
naliothand alistair please read the /topic and dont paste in here09:31
alistairsorry09:31
alistairi'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com  ( i've tried just archive.ubuntu.com)..  and-09:31
naliothalistair: ubotu sent you some info on editing your sources.list09:32
alistairthanks, i'll give it a try :)09:32
tapanimwhat i can do for those zombies?09:33
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_toml09:34
_charles_hi09:35
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alistairi'm using adept packet manager though09:36
alistairohh, nevermind.09:37
alistairi'll try and figure this out and i'll come back if i'm stuck09:37
naliothubotu: tell alistair about sources09:38
Cagliostrodoes anyone use graveman here?09:38
naliothalistair: you can use the breezy sources.list from that factoid09:38
alistairk09:38
tapanimnalioth: do u have experience about zombies?09:39
naliothtapanim: on what system(s) ?09:39
tapanimkubuntu09:40
naliothtapanim: how do you know you have a zombie? 09:41
l3mit wants to ...eat braiiinz 09:41
tapanimwhen i write in konsole "top" that tells me that i have 209:41
l3mmua09:41
naliothtapanim: ah "zombie processes"09:41
naliothtapanim: nothing to worry about09:42
tapanimhow to remove those09:42
tapanimsorry about bad language09:42
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naliothtapanim: those 'zombie' processes are part of your system09:43
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tapanimnothing to do those?09:45
naliothtapanim: those zombies are fine. they are doing their job09:45
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alistairhaha, the day is mine ;)09:53
alistairi had to remove the media player that came with kubuntu, but xine is installing :D09:53
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alistairthanks nalioth and sniper, you've been a huge help :)09:56
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mossyhow do i remove kdm and use xdm?10:03
mossy?10:04
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mossyhow do i remove kdm and use xdm?10:05
mossy?10:05
oshmossy: why would you want to do that?10:05
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mossybecause i like xdm10:06
Cagliostrois there any way to make a canonscan work with xsane?10:06
naliothmossy: install kdm first10:07
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naliothmossy: when it is installing, it will ask you which one you want to use10:07
mossyi selected xdn10:07
mossyxdm*10:07
naliothmossy: "sudo apt-get install kdm"10:07
mossyi dont want kdm10:07
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nalioththen install xdm and follow the steps10:08
mossyi did apt-get remove kdm, apt-get xdm, selected xdm as display manager10:08
mossyno luck :(10:09
oshmossy: /etc/X11/default-display-manager10:09
oshmossy: that's probably the file you want.10:09
mossy/usr/bin/X11/xdm10:09
mossyis what it says10:09
mossyi just get brought to shell, and have to type startx10:09
oshmossy: and you've restarted X?10:09
oshok10:10
SoyburgI would like to format an sd card with fat 32 and have tried fdisk but it fails. any suggestions?10:10
mossyyes10:10
SoyburgI have tried qparted but it can't make a new partitiontable either.10:10
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mossy:10:11
mossy(10:11
oshmossy: I'm new to ubuntu too so I'm not sure. Let me look some more.10:11
Soyburgvar/log/messages says "Device sdc not ready" and "end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 8"10:11
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oshmossy: sorry, can't look more. baby crying. got to prioritize that.10:13
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oshmossy: it's in etc/X11 somewhere10:15
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sorush20hi everybody.. love you all, kiss kiss kiss, 10:20
sorush20I think being gay is very miss configured10:20
neoncodeHey I have flash player for firefox and a while ago I noticed that text was not desplaying in SWF's. I think i fixed it by installing some font. Thing is I messed up the flashplayer so i re-installed it and now the problem it back.... 10:21
carsteni have a question about adept. why is in adept only scummvm V0.7.1 and not 0.8 ?10:24
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oshcarsten: because noone packaged it?10:31
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carstenosh: so it is always better to download the ".deb"s from the offical site i.e. scummvm?10:35
oshcarsten: if it's packaged for ubuntu. if for debian it will "probably" work.10:36
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mikerobiWhy do my gtk apps all use their default themes and fonts when i'm running kde?10:37
mikerobinever mind10:38
oshmikerobi: look for the option in the control-center.10:38
mikerobii though it turned it off, but i just double checkd10:38
carstenosh: hmm youre right the .deb from the scummvm site does not work10:40
carsteni need some other packages, he tells me10:40
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carsteni am trying to install scummvm0.8 when i try to install he tells me that i need libflac6. i searched adept and found out that i already habe libflac7. and there is NO libflac6. what should i do?10:46
l3mcarsten: install scummvm using apt-get10:47
l3mcarsten: e.g. sudo apt-get install scummvm beneath-a-steel-sky flight-of-the-amazon-queen ;)10:48
carstenl3m: but i think that he will install 0.7.1 when i use apt get? how can i tell him that he should install 0.8 ?10:48
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l3mif you use apt-get to install scummvm, you'll install a scummvm version linked against the flac version in kubuntu10:49
ganooshhow do i loard kernel in grub?10:49
ganooshwithout a bootloader10:49
l3mcarsten: yes, it will install 0.710:50
l3mcarsten: if you want a more recent version, you'll have to compile scummvm yourself.10:50
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carstenl3m: sound interesting. How do I do that? ./make install ./make configure10:53
apacheloggerhm10:58
apacheloggerwhat's the name of KDE's runlevel editor?10:58
l3m./configure and then make, make install 10:58
l3mi guess10:59
l3m;)10:59
l3mbut why do you need 0.8? 10:59
l3mdo you have a game which doesn't run wiht 0.7? 10:59
l3mwith?10:59
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carstenl3m: yeah gobliiins.11:01
carstenl3m: additionally scummvm 0.8 is a lot better then 0.7 (there was nearly 1 year in patches in it?)11:01
l3mcarsten: well looks like you'll have to compile...... 11:02
Chousukecarsten: compiling isn't that bad.11:02
l3m0.8 will be in the next kubu release but that is still a few months away... maybe someone will backport, though11:02
l3mhmm but i wouldn't count on it11:02
ChousukeJust make sure you don't install it over any managed files11:03
ChousukeYou can use checkinstall or something11:03
frank23carsten: you can ask for a backport in the backport forum but compiling the newer version is the best way to get it11:03
carstenokay, i start with downloading the source in my home folder11:04
Chousukeread the INSTALL files and apt-get any -dev packages needed.11:05
frank23carsten do a sudo apt-get build-dep scummvm to get the dependancies to compile it11:05
Chousukefrank23: he wants a newer version11:05
naliothubotu: tell carsten about checkinstall11:05
Chousukeah11:05
Chousukenm 11:05
Chousukethat's a good idea.11:05
Chousuke:D11:05
naliothcarsten: and please use checkinstall, instead of "make install"11:05
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carstenokay, not so fast pls11:06
yannzSay, which package has rar in it?11:06
naliothyannz: unrar-nonfree11:06
Chousukeor he can use ./configure --prefix $HOME/bin/appname like I do ;P11:06
yannznalioth,okay. which repository is it in?11:06
Chousukemultiverse11:07
naliothChousuke: i believe that is a little advanced. as long as folks install into /usr/local/  they'll be fine11:07
yannzI only get the -free variant there.11:08
l3mubotu tell yannz about multiverse11:08
frank23yannz: you can also use  rar11:08
carstenokay. i tried "sudo apt-get install checkinstall" now he tells me that he wants to install checkinstall and scummvm ?!11:08
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Chousukenalioth: I guess. I don't have root on the machines I compile and use stuff on, so I kind of have to use --prefix ;P11:09
naliothyannz: enable universe and multiverse repos and you'll have thousands of more programs to choose from11:09
yannzfrank23, also in the multiverse, eh?11:09
dareboyhi11:09
frank23yannz: yes11:09
naliothChousuke: i understand11:09
yannznalioth, i used this line: deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse11:09
yannzam i doing it right?11:09
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dareboyHOW DO I GET LIMEWIRE AND STUFF ON KUBUNTU???11:10
ChousukeFirst you deactivate caps lock11:10
naliothyannz: nope. find the other lines with 'universe' in them and change it to say "universe multiverse"11:10
dareboyk11:10
naliothubotu: tell dareboy about restricted11:10
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carstenhe tells me that checkinstall needs installwatch(>0.6), which shouldnt be installed?11:11
dareboyubotu wats with this page11:11
ubotudareboy: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about11:11
Chousuke!ubotu11:12
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.11:12
dareboyhow do u add applications and stuff into the terminal11:12
yannznalioth, great! thanks :)11:12
dareboy!<factoid>11:12
ubotudareboy: I don't know, could you explain it?11:12
dareboywhen u input stuff into the terminal11:13
carstenhow can I tell apt get install that he shouldnt install scummvm?11:13
dareboyto get micromedia player and stuff11:13
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naliothcarsten: installwatch is necessary to use checkinstall11:14
dareboyhow can u install 11:15
naliothdareboy: if you read the link ubotu sent you, it's all explained11:15
dareboyk11:15
carstennalioth: thanks, but when I "sudo apt-get install checkinstall" he tries to install chinstall AND scummvm?!?11:16
naliothcarsten: it's trying to complete a prior command11:16
naliothcarsten: sudo apt-get remove scummvm11:16
carstennalioth: thanks!11:17
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carstenokay, i downloaded the bz2 source11:22
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apacheloggerI'm really missing a codeine binary :(11:24
frank23apachelogger: a what?11:24
apacheloggerfrank23: you dunno codeine?11:24
frank23no11:25
apacheloggerhm, one moment11:25
apacheloggerfrank23: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1716111:25
apacheloggerthe smartest video player ;-)11:25
frank23I've been happy with kaffeien11:26
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apacheloggerfrank23: yeah but kaffeine is more a multimedia thing11:26
apacheloggerand since I use amaroK for audio I don't need a mm-thing11:26
frank23I basically use amarok for music and kaffeine for video11:27
apacheloggerfrank23: you should try codeine11:27
apacheloggereven faster11:27
apacheloggerand less stupid stuff11:27
apacheloggerlike systray thing etc.11:27
apacheloggerwell, just smart ;-)11:27
frank23ok11:27
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apacheloggerand hey, great distro :D11:28
Knowerrorsapachelogger: where do you get "codeine" player?  Didn't find it on any ubu multi/uni, plf repos11:29
apacheloggerKnowerrors: that's what I complained about11:30
apacheloggermaybe because it's using scons for building -> problem at packing11:30
apacheloggerdunno11:30
carstenokay, using "auto-apt run ./configure" hope that will work11:30
teprrrhmm, what's going on there in breezy? gpgv doesn't seem to work..11:30
teprrrcan't do apt-get update..11:31
MitjaHow do I save gamma setting for good? It always jumps back to "default" after I restart session or reboot.11:31
apacheloggerMitja: "apply settings at kde startup" if you set it with the system settings thing11:32
Mitjaapachelogger: couldn't find it there, corrected in konsole11:33
apacheloggerit's in the "screen" options11:33
carsten"sudo auto-apt run ./configure" command not found ?!11:33
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frank23carsten: tou have to install auto-apt  but I never used that. I don't know what it does11:35
apacheloggerMitja: it's called "display"11:35
apacheloggerand there is nothing O.o11:36
carstenfrank23: this channel told me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall to compile scummvm 0.811:36
Mitjaapachelogger: display? I get ImageMagick: LOGO11:36
apacheloggerMitja: :/ well actually the option isn't there11:37
apacheloggerfor some reason11:37
_nick...and kaffeine can write stream into file11:37
frank23carsten: ok I never used auto-apt...   you can just use  ./configure  instead11:37
Mitjaapachelogger: anyway, where is gamma saved? maybe I can save some file so it will stay that way11:37
frank23carsten do a sudo apt-get build-dep scummvm to get the dependancies to compile it11:38
apacheloggerMitja: should be in xorg.conf11:38
apacheloggerlike everything ;-)11:38
carstennalioth: Looking for C++ compiler... none found! @ sudo auto-apt run ./configure11:38
frank23carsten: install build-essential11:38
naliothcarsten: "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall"11:38
carstenfrank23: they told me that i should use checkinstall or else the apt-get system would be broken11:39
carstennalioth:  ok thanks installing build-essential11:39
Tm_Tcheckinstall is big gumball11:39
Tm_TI don't use it11:39
apacheloggerTm_T: hey mom, sup?11:40
frank23carsten: I agree  that you should use checkinstall.    run    ./configure  then  make then checkinstall11:40
Tm_Tapachelogger: veery tired, going sleep now11:40
carstenfrank23:  but i understood that i shouldnt just "./configure" but that i should "sudo auto-apt run ./configure"11:41
apacheloggerTm_T: well, I gonna switch back to home made suse11:41
frank23carsten:   ok if  sudo auto-apt run ./configure  works fine.    but running  ./configure   instead will not screw up your system in anyway11:42
apacheloggerlater11:42
frank23carsten:  what is important is  running  checkinstall  instead of  make install11:42
naliothcarsten: no. you only need 'sudo' when you checkinstall11:43
naliothcarsten: did you read the checkinstall page?11:43
carstenfrank23: thanks. But i am in  REAL configure trouble now i think11:43
carstennalioth: oh i see, yeah i read it. sudo was useless youre right11:44
frank23carsten: what do you mean?11:44
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carstennalioth: i added it automatically that was a mistake11:44
naliothcarsten: using sudo where and when it's not necessary is a bad habit to get into11:44
carstenfrank23: he checked a lot and like 90% of the check was like ..no / ..not found11:44
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naliothcarsten: did you type "sudo apt-get build-dep scummvm" ?11:45
MitjaHow many xorg.conf files are there? Can't find any "gamma" in there.11:45
naliothMitja: there is only one.11:46
carstennalioth: yeah i will do that, currently i have to install (Plugin support, ogg vorbis, tremor,. flac 1.01,mad, alsa, zlib, libmpeg2,libfluidsynth, nasm and sld-config11:46
frank23carsten: build-dep should take care of all of that11:47
carstenoh i am too slow. i overread that. sorry again for all the unessecary questions11:47
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KnowerrorsHey all, what firewall frontend do people use on kubuntu?11:48
frank23carsten: hehe. no problem11:48
frank23Knowerrors: I use firestarter11:48
naliothKnowerrors: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13011:48
carstenarghl. now i need a new sources.list. he hasnt ANY sources.11:49
frank23carsten: what? did you delete your sources?11:49
frank23!sources11:50
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:50
KnowerrorsI was going to install Firestarter, but thought its strange that it wants me to install gksu11:50
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naliothKnowerrors: not at all. it doesnt know you are on kde with kdesu11:50
frank23Knowerrors: its because firestarter is a gnome app but it works fine in kde too11:50
carstenfrank23: i am noob. i dont know. hopefully not :)11:50
naliothcarsten: we'll take care of you11:51
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Knowerrorsso then after I install firestarter, will I need to change its icon command from gksu to kdesu?11:52
frank23Knowerrors: no gksu will work fine11:54
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Knowerrorsnalioth: thanks for that article link, very interesting11:57
naliothKnowerrors: any time11:57
Knowerrorsfrank23: strange thing about gksu on kubuntu, I didn't have it installed before, and apt-get'ed BUM and Synaptic, both of which needed gksu, but didn't list it as a dependancy11:58
KnowerrorsI had to manually change the command line for their icons to use kdesu11:58
frank23Knowerrors: hmm... I never had that problem11:59
Knowerrorsfrank23: did you start with kubuntu? or install ubuntu first, maybe you had gksu installed already12:01
frank23Knowerrors: I think I had ubuntu (hoary) first.... then installed kubuntu (hoary) then upgraded to breezy12:02

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