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[01:48] <gdgani> i really need a new kernel for breezy...2.6.13 at least ...how can i get it ?
[01:51] <jbailey> gdgani: Newer kernels are not supported on breezy.  Best to pull it from dapper.
[01:51] <jbailey> If it breaks, though, please upgrade all the way to dapper before reporting bugs.
[01:51] <gdgani> wich kernel is in dapper
[01:52] <gdgani> ?
[01:52] <jbailey> 2.6.12 is the default, but 2.6.15 has been uploaded.
[01:52] <crimsun> 2.6.15-rc1 + $stuff
[01:53] <gdgani> i can only get it via apt-get ?
[01:54] <gdgani> i have an acer turion laptop..and having proble with timer..i think a newer kernel will solve it
[02:53] <mjg59> Haha
[02:53] <mjg59> There's almost all the code I need in the kernel already
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[03:52] <ispiked> mjg59: is there anything in the new kernel that would make sata resume from suspend work (better)?
[03:52] <mjg59> ispiked: What hardware are you on where it doesn't?
[03:53] <ispiked> mjg59: gimme one sec.
[03:54] <ispiked> mjg59: what's an easy way to tell the hardware? lspci?
[03:54] <mjg59> ispiked: Uhm. Is this a desktop or a laptop?
[03:54] <ispiked> mjg59: dell d610 laptop.
[03:55] <ispiked> I'm not sure what type of HDD they put in it.
[03:55] <mjg59> Should work absolutely fine with the stock kernel in Breezy
[03:55] <mjg59> (My D610 does)
[03:56] <ispiked> mjg59: when did you get yours?
[03:56] <mjg59> August
[03:56] <mjg59> The HDD type shouldn't matter
[03:56] <ispiked> mjg59: it has an SATA HDD?
[03:56] <mjg59> No, it's a PATA drive on a SATA bridge
[03:56] <mjg59> I don't think anyone's actually using SATA drives in laptops yet
[03:57] <mjg59> What sort of failure are you seeing?
[03:57] <ispiked> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=515026
[03:57] <ispiked> bah. that thread, not that post.
[03:57] <ispiked> it fails when it tries to resume.
[03:58] <mjg59> Ok, suspend to disk has nothing to do with SATA
[03:58] <ispiked> really?
[03:58] <mjg59> Try removing the splash argument from the kernel command line and see if that works
[03:58] <mjg59> Yeah, the controller is reconfigured by the kernel
[04:00] <ispiked> brb
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[04:18] <ispiked> mjg59: that did it! who would have ever thought. thanks a bunch. :)
[04:19] <mjg59> ispiked: Cool
[04:37] <mjg59> Hurrah. Well, that works.
[04:46] <ispiked> mjg59: so how does sata not have anything to do with suspend to disk?
[05:29] <infinity> Why should it?
[05:29] <infinity> You could be suspending to paper, for all it cares.
[05:30] <infinity> Print out memory state, reboot, kernel re-inits hardware, you type in old state, life goes on.
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[07:04] <mjg59> BenC: I've just bomed lkml with most of my patches
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[09:56] <michel> morning  i just patch ubuntu ltsp-kernel, make-kpkg, and run  ltsp-update-kernels the client starts but it crash at pivot_root: no such file or directory any idea
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[01:00] <Yagisan> G'day - why is breezys l-r-m loaded on a tmpfs ? Unlike hoary where it was on disk.
[01:33] <Mithrandir> what's the ETA for changing the default kernel on the live cd?  I need it for the unionfs module
[01:34] <fabbione> Mithrandir: we need lrm first
[01:34] <fabbione> and .15-4.4
[01:35] <Mithrandir> ok, and those happen until BenC is back from his turkey-eating feast, I presume?
[01:36] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yes right.. we need BenC back
[01:36] <fabbione> that would be.. next monday i think
[01:36] <Mithrandir> ok, and we might have lrm and -4.4 mid-next week?
[01:36] <fabbione> i am not going to make releases out of git yet.. i am not confident enough to do so
[01:36] <fabbione> yes
[01:37] <fabbione> i think
[01:37] <Mithrandir> ok, goodie.
[01:37] <Mithrandir> just trying to plan a little bit for next week and such.
[02:03] <doko> Riddell: what is gettext-kde? arts b-d's on it
[02:03] <doko> sorry
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[02:19] <SatanicA> hello
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[04:28] <BenC> happy thanksgiving :)
[04:32] <jbailey> BenC: Heya Ben, Happy t-day!
[04:33] <jbailey> (Where "t" is a variable refereing to "turkey" "Thanksgiving" and "take a day off" as suits you) =)
[04:33] <BenC> hehe
[04:34] <BenC> I'll take "all of the above" for $1000 Alex
[04:34] <BenC> fabbione: ping
[04:35] <jbailey> BenC: missed him by 30.
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[04:40] <BenC> pinned down the sparc64 bug with 2.6.15 kernels
[04:40] <BenC> I have a machine that usually finds brokeness :)
[04:42] <jbailey> Cool.
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[06:32] <CataEnry> hi all
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[06:44] <zoltan> hi - the #ubuntu-bugs guys suggested I try here with my query (so much for the hug ;-)  )
[06:44] <zoltan> OK I've got an issue with all the breezy -smp kernels. I have to disable APIC in the BIOS otherwise the boot hangs. It is on an MSI 945g NEOM/B with an Intel dualcore 830 CPU. There are noe BIOS upgrades available from MSI so I'd like to know if anyone else has similar issues.  Oh - disabling APIC (note *NOT* ACPI) means I only run on 1 of the cores
[07:10] <BenC> where does the boot hang?
[07:11] <zoltan> Hi Ben - just trying to get a private chat with you - no need. It hangs (IIRC) around the PS/2 keyboard message - and the kyb is dead - I have to hit reset. I'd need to reboot this box to confirm that, though.
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[07:22] <zoltan> BenC: BTW - I replied to your plea at the bottom of bug 2650 - subsequent to that I have tried all of the smp kernels and they hang the same way. I have *not* tried tried to re-install with the AMD64 version of breezy.
[07:24] <BenC> hmm, ok
[07:24] <BenC> for shits, can you try booting with noapictimer
[07:26] <zoltan> BenC: should I stay online or would you like to take this up tomorrow or so? My email is zoltans@geograph.co.za - I'll try the noapictimer now - give me a mo
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[07:26] <lamont-away> BenC: if you're keeping score, 2.6.15-4.4 on hppa: drivers/net/tulip/tulip_core.c:383: error: 'ULI526X' undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:26] <BenC> shit
[07:27] <BenC> that probably breaks everywhere
[07:27] <mgalvin> hey guys, i was wondering i could request trying to get a driver into the kernel b/c breezy does not recognize the sata drives on my laptop?
[07:28] <BenC> lamont-away: any reason I don't have build logs yet?
[07:28] <BenC> mgalvin: not in breezy, but try the dapper 2.6.15 kernel and let me know if it works there
[07:28] <BenC> mgalvin: if not, file a bug report with a "feature request"
[07:28] <mgalvin> ok, will do, thnx BenC
[07:28] <lamont-away> arch/x86_64/kernel/io_apic.c:46: error: static declaration of 'disable_timer_pin_1' follows non-static declaration
[07:28] <lamont-away> include/asm/apic.h:112: error: previous declaration of 'disable_timer_pin_1' was here
[07:28] <lamont-away> arch/x86_64/kernel/io_apic.c:48: error: non-static declaration of 'disable_timer_pin_1' follows static declaration
[07:28] <lamont-away> arch/x86_64/kernel/io_apic.c:46: error: previous declaration of 'disable_timer_pin_1' was here
[07:28] <lamont-away> make[3] : *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/io_apic.o]  Error 1
[07:29] <lamont-away> that's amd64
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[07:30] <BenC> ok, thanks lamont
[07:30] <BenC> looks like I'll have -4.5 in just a bit
[07:31] <infinity> BenC : Dude.
[07:31] <infinity> BenC : Did 4.4 include the move to update-initramfs?
[07:31] <infinity> BenC : If not, pretty please, with sugar on top, do so for 4.5.
[07:31] <BenC> update-initramfs has to come from kernel-package, since it installs the post/pre inst scripts
[07:32] <BenC> I need to do a k-p fix for that
[07:32] <infinity> Well, true.  Are you not doing kernel-package hacking too, as part of your job description? :)
[07:32] <BenC> yes, yes I am :)
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[07:33] <infinity> BenC : Well, if you don't get it in -4.5, we'll need to wait for the next ABI bump, so the sooner, the better.
[07:34] <BenC> well, -4.4 is a total loss, since the tulip patch broke things...that's what I get for adding a last minute patch and not test building
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[07:35] <BenC> I can blame mjg59 for the amd64 breakage :)
[07:35] <zul> heylo
[07:35] <infinity> I'm having breezy flashbacks.
[07:37] <infinity> BenC : Anyhow, tomorrow is LRM day for me and udev day for keybuk, but I don't want to update linux-meta until we're using update-initramfs as well.
[07:37] <zoltan> BenC: OK - rebooted with BIOS enabled APIC with MPS table v1.4. Boot process hung and kyb was frozen - had to hit reset. Last msg was:  [4294668.946000]  PNP: PS/2 controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M]  at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12  -  I've just noticed that I can update to 2.6.12-10-686-smp  -  should I, or only after we've sorted this out?
[07:39] <infinity> zoltan : You should update anyway for the security fix, but in your case, -10- won't fix anything for you.  Of course, an unbootable machine is the most secure machine of all, so you could see this as the ultimate security fix...
[07:39] <zoltan> gee thanx
[07:39] <infinity> (Been up all night, excuse the poor sense of humour)
[07:39] <zoltan> no hassle - I did have a smile
[07:40] <zul> then go to bed...:)
[07:40] <infinity> I'm still trying to get an American to FedEx me a slice of pumpkin pie.  Once that's been secured, I'll go to bed.
[07:41] <BenC> infinity: consider it done, go to bed :)
[07:41] <infinity> Woo.
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[07:41] <zoltan> .... but infinity never stops - by definition
[07:51] <zoltan> BenC : do you want to try a few things now or shall we pick up another day? I'm really available to help try sort this out - Methinks it could be a BIOS bug issue as the M/B is still on its first release of the BIOS, but I wouldn't know how to prove that without your help. Let me know now so I can either pack up or stay - TIA.
[07:54] <BenC> Monday is probably best
[07:55] <zoltan> cool by me - thanks (just drop me an email) - cheers for now.
[08:10] <Earthpig> benc: btw... getting oops from naked (non-mm) arcmsr module on the current breezy amd64 kernel.
[08:12] <CataEnry> bye all
[08:55] <zul> ok this might be a stupid question but does anyone here read ubuntu-users ml
[08:57] <jbailey> Do I get fired if I say no?
[08:57] <mjg59> Occasionally
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[09:06] <zul> jbailey: yep...but what do i know..
[09:07] <zul> i guess i could subscribe..
[09:34] <lamont-away> I wonder what module supports 0000:00:0e.0 IDE interface: National Semiconductor Corporation 87415/87560 IDE (rev 03)
[09:35] <lamont-away> or rather, why the kernel doesn't find the cdrom on the J7000
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[10:05] <lamont-away> BenC: on the hppa configs, please turn on CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI (and then CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415)
[10:05] <lamont-away> thanks
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=== BenC points to the topic
[10:06] <BenC> I'll make those changes for -3.4
[10:06] <BenC> -4.5 I mean
[10:06] <BenC> so it builds for hppa otherwise?
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[10:45] <zul> BenC: available?
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[11:13] <zul> laster
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[11:21] <ispiked> mjg59: had any problems with the stick and buttons below the space bar not working when you resume from suspend?
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[11:45] <BenC> zul: I am now
[11:54] <BenC> lamont-away: ping