| \sh | minghua: why? doko is just my boss :) | 12:03 |
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| minghua | \sh: just let you know that I'm working on scim (libscim8) on Debian side, so you can leave it alone | 12:03 |
| slomo | LaserJock: unfrgiven works on it for dapper again | 12:03 |
| \sh | minghua: can u file a bug in malone (see my other bugs) | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | slomo: have you talked to him recently? I haven't been able to get in touch with him for a while | 12:04 |
| \sh | minghua: regarding the cxx abi change...so we know that someone is working on it | 12:04 |
| minghua | \sh: will do | 12:04 |
| slomo | LaserJock: no, same for me :/ | 12:04 |
| \sh | minghua: cool | 12:04 |
| crimsun | hmm, the fonts seem more crisp after an upgrade today in Dapper. Maybe I'm just seeing things differently. | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | slomo: on the 5th he said he would get a svn repo for me to get the docs but he hasn't emailed since | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | slomo: do you know if he had a docbook version or if it was just pdf and odt? | 12:07 |
| slomo | pdf and odt... but i suggested him to use docbook in the future | 12:07 |
| crimsun | ah, it's the Cairo conversion! | 12:07 |
| crimsun | (RE: gtk2-engines-clearlooks) | 12:08 |
| crimsun | though it's not really the fonts but the theme. Neat. | 12:08 |
| minghua | \sh: is there some format requirement? (like the merge bugs, in case there is some automated tracker) | 12:08 |
| \sh | minghua: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4803 take is as example | 12:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug #4803: arkrpg: libstdc++ new allocator build Fix req. for: arkrpg (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4803 | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | slomo and MOTUs: do you think it is worth while for me to start work on making a docbook version and getting it into the doc-team repo? | 12:09 |
| \sh | or use the new version of lpbugs.py in my bzr archive | 12:09 |
| slomo | LaserJock: no idea, really... write him again ;) | 12:09 |
| \sh | bzr merge or branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools | 12:09 |
| slomo | crimsun: ah, another one liking clearlooks-cairo :) | 12:10 |
| tseng | i still hate the colors | 12:10 |
| crimsun | slomo: yes, I couldn't put my finger on it at first after I logged in, but it's obvious now after reading the changelog. | 12:10 |
| tseng | just the blue really | 12:10 |
| \sh | Nafallo: ping...please mention the cxx changes in the debian/changelog :) | 12:16 |
| \sh | Nafallo: forget it | 12:17 |
| \sh | Nafallo: it was in the second part of the changelog...shitty display i have here. | 12:17 |
| Nafallo | \sh: :-P | 12:18 |
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| \sh | ok..time for the last cigarette for this morning till I wake up | 12:21 |
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| crimsun | Nafallo: are you proceeding in any order down the list? | 12:29 |
| crimsun | (for c2-> c2a) | 12:29 |
| crimsun | (referring to http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-November/000016.html) | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | crimsun: nope, I took the ones I did :-) | 12:31 |
| crimsun | Nafallo: k | 12:32 |
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| \sh | ok..good night gentlemen..cu in the morning :) | 12:40 |
| minghua | \sh: good night | 12:40 |
| dholbach | good night everybody | 12:46 |
| crimsun | 'night, daniel | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | cya dholbach | 12:47 |
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| LaserJock | if a bug is seems to be fixed in dapper, do I mark it fixed? | 01:19 |
| crimsun | choose Fixed | 01:19 |
| crimsun | then add a status note | 01:19 |
| crimsun | "Fixed in Dapper" | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | k | 01:20 |
| crimsun | slomo: sanity-check please, before I upload: does libstdc++ allocator transition for libwfmath-0.3-3 -> libwfmath-0.3-3c2a look ok? | 01:23 |
| crimsun | slomo: (just the name change) | 01:23 |
| slomo | crimsun: yes. | 01:25 |
| slomo | "The new suffix for | 01:25 |
| slomo | these packages should be in any case "c2a" (instead of "c2"). No | 01:25 |
| slomo | new suffix is needed when the soname changes in a new upstream | 01:25 |
| slomo | upload." | 01:25 |
| slomo | hum, evil line breaks | 01:25 |
| crimsun | ok. | 01:26 |
| crimsun | We went with libwfmath-0.3c2; Debian went with libwfmath-0.3-3. | 01:26 |
| slomo | the debian did it wrong afaik... | 01:26 |
| crimsun | ok, np, I've covered both cases in Conflicts/Replaces anyhow :) | 01:27 |
| slomo | but as i understand doko's mail on the debian ml we need to get c2a in any case ;) | 01:27 |
| slomo | hehe ok | 01:27 |
| Nafallo | wait and see what debian does? :-) | 01:28 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 01:28 |
| Nafallo | last-uploader demands stuff to be installed. | 01:29 |
| Nafallo | where do I file a bug? :-P | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | how else do you want to get the changelog? | 01:30 |
| ajmitch | off the web? | 01:30 |
| slomo | extracting it from the .deb ;) | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | nah | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/g/gnue-common/gnue-common_0.6.0-1ubuntu1/changelog | 01:31 |
| Nafallo | yes, if the package is not installed, sniff changelogs.u.c or something :-P | 01:31 |
| slomo | hmm, gnome-media 2.12.O-X... | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | slomo: yep | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | typoism ;) | 01:31 |
| slomo | at first i thought my eyes were damaged ;) | 01:32 |
| Nafallo | slomo: tsss, I didn't had that much porn, had I? :-) | 01:32 |
| slomo | hm? | 01:34 |
| Nafallo | oh, nm. I'm just getting tired. | 01:34 |
| Nafallo | hm | 01:35 |
| Nafallo | I wonder if my parents could come over tomorrow | 01:35 |
| Nafallo | they have a 19" monitor for me :-P | 01:35 |
| Nafallo | so I can take the old monitor (blue-ish) and build a testbed :-) | 01:36 |
| Nafallo | anyway, gnight | 01:37 |
| crimsun | 'night | 01:37 |
| slomo | gn8 | 01:37 |
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| crimsun | katie must be bombarded | 02:03 |
| StrikeForce | tktkyrthjj gtttttttttu | 02:07 |
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| Lathiat | tseng: heh nice | 02:10 |
| Lathiat | tseng: have you hit any hard spots? | 02:10 |
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| ajmitch | morning Lathiat :) | 02:18 |
| crimsun | ..great. firefox just exploded, taking down all my bugzilla and malone windows. | 02:27 |
| ajmitch | sounds about right | 02:28 |
| crimsun | ;-) | 02:28 |
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| tseng | Lathiat: yes | 02:34 |
| Lathiat | tseng: i'd be interested to hear the details | 02:35 |
| tseng | Lathiat: i have a group of navigation links in the layout in a sidebar | 02:35 |
| tseng | which will go on every page, so i made it a component | 02:35 |
| tseng | you cant do ajax on a component because its not directly web accessible | 02:35 |
| Lathiat | crimsun: heh | 02:35 |
| Lathiat | crimsun: konqueror has this nice trick | 02:35 |
| tseng | i had to call it from a controller, which almost defeats the purpose | 02:35 |
| Lathiat | crimsun: when the kaffeine plugin launches, then it cant start alsasink | 02:36 |
| Lathiat | crimsun: the whole process goes kaboom and eats all my windows | 02:36 |
| Lathiat | tseng: hrm | 02:36 |
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| Lathiat | tseng: should stuck it in the application controller or helper perhaps? | 02:36 |
| crimsun | Lathiat: lovely. | 02:36 |
| tseng | Lathiat: yep. | 02:36 |
| tseng | well not really | 02:36 |
| tseng | those dont map to a url either do they? | 02:36 |
| tseng | you need to be able to do a GET on it | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | the application controller can it hink | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | not sure on that | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | i see what your saying | 02:37 |
| === Lathiat hrms | ||
| tseng | its not *that* much work to put it in a helper on component | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | i think thats what the application controller is for | 02:37 |
| tseng | and call it from each controller | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | the application controler is the aprent of all the other controllers | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | so instead of putting the same call in each controller | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | you smack it in the application.rb controller | 02:37 |
| tseng | hm | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | i think.. | 02:37 |
| Lathiat | try it | 02:37 |
| tseng | yeah | 02:37 |
| tseng | next week, its a holiday here | 02:38 |
| Lathiat | :) | 02:38 |
| Lathiat | ok | 02:38 |
| tseng | :) | 02:38 |
| Lathiat | im working at a hosting company doing support atm | 02:38 |
| tseng | i will be bugged all week, i had to leave an almost finished function | 02:38 |
| Lathiat | heh | 02:38 |
| tseng | everything but the component has been totally easy | 02:39 |
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| Lathiat | one thing i discovered the other day | 02:39 |
| Lathiat | and i dunno how i missed it all this time | 02:39 |
| Lathiat | is full text indexing/searching in mysql | 02:39 |
| tseng | yep | 02:40 |
| Lathiat | unfortunately i have to do it manually since AR doesnt do it sine its an extension | 02:40 |
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| tseng | Lathiat: have you done any custom routing yet? | 02:46 |
| Lathiat | tseng: yeh i was fiddling with it | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | it was a bit messy | 02:47 |
| tseng | works great for me | 02:47 |
| tseng | /model/controller/field1/field2 | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | well what i was trying to do | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | is /store/5/item/4 | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | where item is a controller | 02:48 |
| tseng | i am sick of that ?&?&?&?= nonsense | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | as is store | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | i sort of got it working | 02:48 |
| tseng | hm that does sound messy | 02:48 |
| tseng | did you really want a join? | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | well take | 02:49 |
| Lathiat | /category/5/item/4 | 02:49 |
| Lathiat | in the situation where items can be in more than 1 category | 02:50 |
| Lathiat | and you want to keep history | 02:50 |
| Lathiat | without using cookies or something that would break when using more than 1 page at once etc | 02:50 |
| Lathiat | is there a better way to solve that? | 02:50 |
| tseng | oh | 02:50 |
| tseng | the way i have it you view /list/2/4 | 02:50 |
| tseng | then from there you go to show/24 | 02:50 |
| tseng | for the specific item | 02:50 |
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| tseng | hm im not sure where mine would break like that | 02:50 |
| tseng | if you are on /category/5 | 02:50 |
| tseng | and click to item/24 | 02:51 |
| tseng | you go Back to category 5 | 02:51 |
| tseng | yo could also see item 24 on cat 4 | 02:51 |
| tseng | maybe i dont understand yet | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | tseng: so when an item can belong to many categories | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | how do i remember that they got to that item from category <x> | 02:52 |
| tseng | http referrer? | 02:52 |
| Amaranth | sessions | 02:52 |
| Amaranth | what software is this? | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | what if they go through and add the item to their cart, say i wanted to go back to the category then | 02:52 |
| tseng | or sessions. | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | the referrer wont be there anymore | 02:52 |
| tseng | Amaranth: ruby on rails | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: that breaks multi page | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | if i have 10 tabs open | 02:52 |
| Amaranth | ah, this explains much | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | browing a host of items | 02:52 |
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| Lathiat | in different categories | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | if i just store it in the session it'l go to buggery | 02:53 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: No real user does that. | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: i do it all the time | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: and its certainly not a use case that should be broken | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | where avoidable | 02:53 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: You are a _very_ small minority. | 02:53 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: There is no other way. | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: when im browing say, thinkgeek | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: sure there is | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: /category/5/item/4 | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | in the url | 02:53 |
| tseng | lets look at thinkgeek :) | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | the url is a reliabel way to encode that | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | so on thinkgeek i go browsing | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | i open up liek 30 tabs of things i want to look at | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | and go sort through them bit by bit | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | maybe thats just me :) | 02:54 |
| tseng | http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/cables/69d3/ | 02:54 |
| tseng | back takes me to | 02:54 |
| tseng | http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/ | 02:54 |
| tseng | oh! ok | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | see /pcmods/cables/69d3 | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | thats _exactly_ what im talking about | 02:54 |
| Lathiat | encoding the category in the url | 02:55 |
| tseng | ok in routes.rb | 02:55 |
| tseng | you can make a nil parameter | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | i managed to make it work | 02:55 |
| tseng | so /store/category/cat#/item# | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | but what i couldnt get | 02:55 |
| tseng | you do item => :nil | 02:55 |
| tseng | and its optional | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | tseng: ah see, that would make more sense | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | mmm | 02:55 |
| tseng | yeah | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | and how would i map the item bit? | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | see | 02:56 |
| tseng | if you get an item in the controller function | 02:56 |
| Lathiat | i had the items in a separate controller | 02:56 |
| tseng | you can render a different page | 02:56 |
| Lathiat | so was sort of tryin to cross-controller things | 02:56 |
| tseng | ok hows this | 02:56 |
| tseng | two routes | 02:56 |
| Lathiat | probably the wrong approach | 02:56 |
| tseng | one w/ item | 02:56 |
| tseng | one w/o | 02:56 |
| Lathiat | call brb | 02:56 |
| tseng | go to seperate controllers | 02:56 |
| tseng | it would totally work | 02:56 |
| tseng | if you put the more specific one first | 02:56 |
| tseng | that sounds like the winner. | 02:57 |
| tseng | /store/cat/5 routes to store -> category | 02:57 |
| tseng | /store/cat/5/item# routes to store -> item | 02:57 |
| tseng | you can enforce valid input with a regex | 02:58 |
| Lathiat | ah ok | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | right | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | i think that what i ended up doing | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | the only problem i had then | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | was when using link_tos | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | they linked to /store/cat/5/controller/action | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | now while thats good | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | i couldnt figure out how tom ake a link_to go outside that when i wanted it to | 03:11 |
| Lathiat | e.g. /store/controller/action | 03:12 |
| tseng | why does firefox still say deer park | 03:17 |
| tseng | Lathiat: you give it the controller | 03:17 |
| tseng | Lathiat: link_to "Blah", { :controller => "controller", :action => :function } | 03:17 |
| Lathiat | tseng: yeh but | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | the way i was doing it | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | maybe i was routing wrong | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | when i did that | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | i ended up with /store/cat/5/controller/action | 03:24 |
| Lathiat | i think perhaps i had my routes.rb wrong | 03:24 |
| tseng | i think so | 03:25 |
| tseng | it only makes up funny urls if there is a route for it | 03:25 |
| Lathiat | hrm | 03:26 |
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| zakame | hi all | 06:33 |
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| tseng | anyone restarted X lately? | 07:27 |
| tseng | and fixed whatever is pissing it off | 07:27 |
| crimsun | I zapped the X server, but it seems to restart fine, and I can log in | 07:31 |
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| sivang | morning all | 08:44 |
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| \sh | hmmm | 09:38 |
| \sh | x just gone | 09:38 |
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| sivang | does anyone know if there is a python setup.py uninstall ? :) | 09:50 |
| \sh | sivang: www.python.org -> doc -> distutils | 09:51 |
| \sh | in the library section i think...i honestly don't know | 09:51 |
| sivang | \sh: I'm reading there, well there's gotta be a way since debian packages allow you to remove pyprogs | 09:53 |
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| sivang | I just wish p.o had a better search capability | 10:00 |
| dholbach | good morning | 10:00 |
| crimsun | re daniel | 10:00 |
| dholbach | hi daniel :) | 10:00 |
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| zakame | hi slomo | 10:37 |
| slomo | hi zakame :) | 10:37 |
| crimsun | re zakame, slomo | 10:38 |
| crimsun | slomo: I'll be merging in ffmpeg & vlc today based on the latest Sid changes | 10:38 |
| zakame | how's the archives now? is debhelper (or po-debconf) ok now? :) | 10:38 |
| crimsun | ffmpeg -5 is a minor change if you want to go ahead | 10:38 |
| slomo | crimsun: ffmpeg? i can do that if you want ;) but did you ping elmo about moving it back to universe? | 10:38 |
| crimsun | slomo: libpostproc-dev is in universe according to p.u.c :)) | 10:39 |
| slomo | crimsun: perfect :) | 10:39 |
| crimsun | zakame: no major borkage aside from modular X.Org, but that's being fixed | 10:40 |
| slomo | crimsun: hmm, all our changes have to be applied again to ffmpeg... this guy doesn't read his bug reports it seems ;) | 10:40 |
| crimsun | slomo: unfortunately | 10:40 |
| slomo | i guess i can just take the debdiff from http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ffmpeg/ ... | 10:41 |
| zakame | crimsun: ooh :) | 10:41 |
| slomo | siretart: ping? | 10:46 |
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| slomo | crimsun: uploaded ffmpeg | 10:51 |
| crimsun | slomo: awesome, thanks :) | 10:51 |
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| colinl | hi there! | 11:34 |
| crimsun | hi | 11:34 |
| colinl | just a question :) : are security updates in universe automatically synced from debian packages? | 11:34 |
| crimsun | no | 11:35 |
| colinl | ok | 11:35 |
| crimsun | no security updates are automatically synced | 11:35 |
| colinl | who should I contact to ask for an update? | 11:35 |
| crimsun | (us) | 11:35 |
| colinl | I recently found a local vuln in the soft I develop, and the fix hit Debian yesterday | 11:36 |
| colinl | ah, cool | 11:36 |
| colinl | so, here you are: | 11:36 |
| colinl | http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-908 | 11:36 |
| crimsun | debdiff would be awfully nice | 11:36 |
| colinl | ok! :) how do I do that? | 11:37 |
| crimsun | generate it against the current version in universe and a version with the security errata backported | 11:37 |
| === StevenK wishes he was whitelisted so someone could upload his merge. | ||
| colinl | crimsun: ok, i'll try to do that | 11:39 |
| colinl | mmmh | 11:39 |
| colinl | the versions are awfully different | 11:40 |
| colinl | for sylpheed, there are 2.0.4 in debian Sid and 2.1.1 in universe | 11:40 |
| colinl | for -claws-gtk2, there are 1.9.100 in Sid and 1.9.14 in universe | 11:40 |
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| zakame | Nafallo: ping, seems crimsun already fixed #4523 via #4647 (cool number ;) | 11:42 |
| colinl | crimsun: should I generate packages from the latest upstream versions ? | 11:42 |
| crimsun | colinl: no, backport the security fixes if possible, please | 11:43 |
| colinl | ok | 11:43 |
| Nafallo | bug 4523 | 11:49 |
| Ubugtu` | Malone bug #4523: torcs: merge new debian version Fix req. for: torcs (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4523 | 11:49 |
| colinl | crimsun: ok, so, apt-get source'd it, added a patch in debian/patches and the changelog entry. | 11:52 |
| Nafallo | yay double-work :-P | 11:53 |
| colinl | crimsun: next step is dpkg-buildpackage ? | 11:53 |
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| colinl | crimsun: I don't remember the parameters :) | 11:54 |
| zakame | colinl: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -k<yourkey> | 11:55 |
| colinl | <yourkey> as in 0x12345678 ? | 11:55 |
| zakame | the 0x is optional | 11:56 |
| === Nafallo usally types his -knafallo@ubuntu.com | ||
| zakame | yeah, that too :) | 11:57 |
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| colinl | crimsun: there are packages for sylpheed-claws and sylpheed-claws-gtk2 in universe | 12:01 |
| colinl | sylpheed-claws is gtk1 and completely unmaintained | 12:01 |
| colinl | I suggest it gets dropped :) | 12:01 |
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| colinl | crimsun: is that what you need? | 12:12 |
| colinl | http://colino.net/tmp/sylpheed-claws-gtk2_1.9.14-2.debdiff | 12:12 |
| colinl | bbl | 12:14 |
| crimsun | colinl: essentially, yes. | 12:14 |
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| colinl | crimsun: still there? | 01:36 |
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| colinl | is there anyone feeling like updating 3 packages in universe to fix a local buffer overflow? (debdiffs provided) | 01:46 |
| Lathiat | colinl: forward them to me and i'll pass them onto security review | 01:47 |
| Lathiat | lathiat at ubuntu.com | 01:47 |
| colinl | Lathiat: thanks | 01:47 |
| Lathiat | colinl: thank-you :) | 01:47 |
| colinl | Lathiat: the debdiffs have huge diffs in config.guess and/or config.sub, should I remove them from the patch of leave it as-is? | 01:48 |
| Lathiat | colinl: eh you can filter those out if you like | 01:48 |
| Lathiat | see filterdiff | 01:48 |
| colinl | k, thanks | 01:48 |
| Lathiat | i hate that | 01:48 |
| === StevenK ponders working on another merge while waiting for upload@ul.o | ||
| colinl | Lathiat: mail sent | 01:55 |
| StevenK | That reminds me. Is dapper unbroken? | 01:55 |
| siretart | StevenK: the archive can build packages again, if that is what you mean | 01:58 |
| siretart | hi folks | 01:58 |
| dholbach | there's a new pbuilder :) | 02:04 |
| === StevenK bounces impatiently waiting for an answer from elmo and then realises he went through waiting for the DAM. :-) | ||
| === StevenK wonders if bugs filed in Malone are source or binary package. | ||
| siretart | I think source package | 02:05 |
| === StevenK files another merge bug. | ||
| === StevenK quickly comes to the conclusion that the patch included in the merge so isn't needed. | ||
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| zakame | hi all | 02:29 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 03:35 |
| sistpoty | ping \sh | 03:35 |
| zakame | hey sistpoty | 03:35 |
| sistpoty | hi zakame | 03:35 |
| siretart | huhu sistpoty | 03:37 |
| sistpoty | hi siretart | 03:37 |
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| sistpoty | siretart, \sh: currently the merge-list will update the package status only if a malone bug with "merge new debian version" as subject is filed... | 03:39 |
| siretart | sistpoty: did \sh talk to you about the merge lists and the c2a transition? | 03:39 |
| sistpoty | siretart: no, he didn't... that's what i wanted to ask ;= | 03:40 |
| sistpoty | ;) | 03:40 |
| sistpoty | siretart, \sh: the first thing i wanted to change is that the list can also be updated by malone bugs with another title... what should that be? | 03:42 |
| siretart | sistpoty: whats wrong with the current title? | 03:44 |
| sistpoty | hm... for libstdc++-only changes "merge new debian version" might be inaccurate? | 03:45 |
| siretart | your right | 03:46 |
| sistpoty | damn... there seems s.th. completely wrong with the email-parser... i wonder why it's working *g* | 03:46 |
| siretart | hm | 03:49 |
| siretart | perhaps procmail would be worth to look at? ;) | 03:49 |
| sistpoty | siretart: maybe... but I don't think it would ease this very much ;) | 03:51 |
| === sistpoty needs to look at malone-mails again | ||
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| === siretart is currently at work, and I need to after work to kathrin | ||
| siretart | she had a bad car accident yesterday | 03:53 |
| sistpoty | oh... is she fine? | 03:54 |
| \sh | sistpoty: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/4798 | 03:55 |
| Ubugtu` | Malone bug #4798: digikam: libstdc++ new allocator build Fix req. for: digikam (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4798 | 03:55 |
| \sh | sistpoty: take the subject as example | 03:55 |
| \sh | sistpoty: I adjusted lpbugs to have a -r option as add for the -n switch | 03:55 |
| sistpoty | ok, thx \sh | 03:56 |
| siretart | hey \sh | 03:57 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yes, fortunatly, nobody got injured | 03:57 |
| \sh | moins siretart | 03:57 |
| sistpoty | :) | 03:57 |
| \sh | siretart: what happend to your gf? | 03:57 |
| siretart | sistpoty: both cars are 'totalschaden' (fucked up beyond all repair, fubar) | 03:58 |
| siretart | \sh: some idiot drove into her | 03:58 |
| \sh | siretart: shit... | 03:58 |
| \sh | siretart: hope she's well... | 03:59 |
| sistpoty | o damn... claudi also had an accident lately. she slided and crashed her car, but luckily nobody was hurt as well | 03:59 |
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| sistpoty | gmrl... i think i definitely broke the email-parser right now... hope that i'll have it fixed in a few minutes | 04:02 |
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| siretart | \sh: she says she is okay. I'll see her later | 04:22 |
| sistpoty | \sh: email-parser is fixed now... it should accept "libstdc++ new allocator build" as bug-title as well. could you please verify this for the next bug you file? | 04:23 |
| \sh | sue | 04:23 |
| \sh | sure | 04:23 |
| chrissturm | is there somebody working on getting a new network manager version into dapper? | 04:26 |
| chrissturm | or will nm be in main for dapper? | 04:26 |
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| sistpoty | \sh: anything else needed for libstdc++ stuff in the merge-list? | 04:36 |
| \sh | sistpoty: hmmm...write some text after the package name "no merge" | 04:36 |
| \sh | but only when it's really c++ and no merge | 04:37 |
| sistpoty | hm... if it's no merge and only c++, you don't have the scott link... but i can make this clearer ;) | 04:37 |
| \sh | and we have to make sure that the merges which are already done, but need to be transitioned, are shown again as non-merge | 04:37 |
| sistpoty | ok, this will be a little bit tougher... but I'll take care of that | 04:38 |
| \sh | kewl :) | 04:38 |
| sistpoty | ok, "no merge" is done ;) | 04:40 |
| \sh | sistpoty: btw...one idea | 04:41 |
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| \sh | can we create a "public imap folder" for the universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com address on tiber? | 04:42 |
| \sh | I would like to have access to the buglists via public imap connection so I can write some things like kbugbuster | 04:42 |
| \sh | without parsing html pages...and dealing with launchpad...but only until we have a running xmlrpc implementation | 04:42 |
| sistpoty | \sh: I have not the slightest clue about imap... but I don't object ;) | 04:43 |
| \sh | sistpoty: but you have a clue about exim :) | 04:43 |
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| \sh | sistpoty: so I'll check during the weekend what is the best working solution for exim and imap servers :) | 04:43 |
| sistpoty | \sh: imo we'd need one "dummy" account where exim delivers mail to... and i guess an imap-server could be used from that mailfolder... | 04:44 |
| sistpoty | \sh: but you might want to ask siretart. iirc he has already done exim+imap stuff | 04:45 |
| \sh | or we convert the mail to xml style..and creating an xmlrpc service :) | 04:45 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 04:45 |
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| bmonty | sistpoty: imap is easy to set up | 05:08 |
| bmonty | i run courier on my network, basically install the packages and tweak a couple of settings | 05:08 |
| sistpoty | bmonty: cool :) | 05:09 |
| bmonty | sistpoty: since \sh wants it public you'll need to configure the TLS stuff so the imap session is encrypted with SSL | 05:10 |
| bmonty | without that passwords and such are sent in the clear | 05:10 |
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| siretart | sistpoty: I'm busy here at work, whats up with imap and exim? | 05:51 |
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| siretart | ah, \sh seems to want an imap server on tiber with shared folders.. I see | 05:52 |
| sistpoty | yep | 05:52 |
| siretart | yeah, I could arrange something like that | 05:52 |
| sistpoty | cool | 05:52 |
| siretart | courier or cyrus? | 05:52 |
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| sistpoty | siretart: i have no clue about imap... your choice ;) | 05:53 |
| siretart | I will think about that, and see that I get an imap running till sunday | 05:53 |
| sistpoty | :) | 05:53 |
| siretart | I'm not sure how much time I will have tomorrow | 05:53 |
| sistpoty | siretart: you merged clanlib from debian... is libstd++ change still needed? | 05:53 |
| === siretart checks the changelog | ||
| siretart | sistpoty: ah, you ask because of the c2a transition? | 05:57 |
| sistpoty | exactly | 05:57 |
| sistpoty | if so, I'll put that back to new/unassigned | 05:57 |
| siretart | sistpoty: it is on doko's list, so it is needed | 05:57 |
| sistpoty | siretart: so you haven't done this... ok, I'll reset this package on the list | 05:58 |
| siretart | sistpoty: check doko's list in his announcement for packages that need to be transitioned | 05:58 |
| siretart | ah | 05:58 |
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| siretart | no, I didn't do that | 05:58 |
| siretart | I didn't do any work on c2a yet | 05:58 |
| siretart | sorry | 05:58 |
| sistpoty | siretart: i already did this... there are only ~8 package for which I don't know the exact status. clanlib was one of them ;) | 05:58 |
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| sistpoty | grml... buglist down again... this is not my day *g* | 06:01 |
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| siretart | yuhuuu, xservers hit the archive :) | 06:13 |
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| lucas | siretart: I mailed you about REVU access | 06:17 |
| bmonty | can somone please sponsor malone #4574? | 06:18 |
| lucas | the wiki says to send a signed + encrypted mail to keyring@tiber, but I can't find keyring@tiber's PGP id | 06:18 |
| Ubugtu` | Malone bug #4574: fam: merge new debian version Fix req. for: fam (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4574 | 06:18 |
| sistpoty | lucas: the mail should only be signed, not encrypted | 06:20 |
| lucas | I mean "to register as reviewer" | 06:20 |
| lucas | The wiki says "Please send a signed and encrypted mail with your password and GnuPG keyid to [MAILTO] keyring@tiber.tauware.de. We will mark you as Reviewer in the database." | 06:21 |
| siretart | lucas: sorry, reviewer is for motus only | 06:21 |
| siretart | lucas: do we really need ruby as dependency for the motutools package? | 06:22 |
| lucas | siretart: currently, yes | 06:22 |
| lucas | if somebody rewrites what is in ruby to python, I'll accept the patch | 06:22 |
| lucas | actually, the "mts" scripts is written in ruby. if this one is written in python instead, we could put ruby in recommends, not depends | 06:23 |
| lucas | since it would only make some subscripts unusable | 06:23 |
| siretart | I'm not that confident to commiting to ruby for a somehow 'official' package | 06:25 |
| siretart | this is a rather political discussion than a technical one, I know | 06:25 |
| lucas | I promise to accept patches to change scripts from ruby to python (if functionality is kept) | 06:26 |
| lucas | most of the scripts will be ~30 lines long | 06:26 |
| lucas | so it won't be hard to convert them | 06:26 |
| lucas | the only reason why I chose ruby is that I know ruby far better than python, and I wanted to have something usable *fast*. | 06:26 |
| siretart | ok | 06:27 |
| siretart | I never did anything in ruby, but revu is developed in python | 06:27 |
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| lucas | you are reviewing motutools ? | 06:33 |
| siretart | I did take a glance | 06:33 |
| sistpoty | loveubuntu: which of these still need to go through c2a-transition: hk-classes, jabberoo, knode? | 06:36 |
| loveubuntu | loveubuntu? | 06:37 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 06:37 |
| \sh | where the hell I got this nick from | 06:37 |
| siretart | ok, I'm off for today | 06:39 |
| siretart | cu tomorrow! | 06:40 |
| sistpoty | cya siretart: | 06:40 |
| \sh | siretart: greetings to kathrin | 06:42 |
| \sh | sistpoty: doko mailed yesterday a list | 06:43 |
| sistpoty | \sh: actually these are packages you touched which you touched and are marked as "done" on the merge list | 06:43 |
| sistpoty | \sh: so I just wonder wether you already did the c2a-transition ;) | 06:44 |
| \sh | no | 06:46 |
| \sh | i'll have to | 06:46 |
| \sh | when dapper is working again as expected :) | 06:46 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 06:46 |
| sistpoty | should i put these to new/unassigned? | 06:46 |
| \sh | grmpf | 06:46 |
| \sh | yes | 06:46 |
| sistpoty | ok, will do | 06:47 |
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| \sh | sistpoty: jabberoo was a sync ihmo anyways :) | 06:48 |
| sistpoty | *g*... maybe i could also have found out the status of the packages in question, but I'm a lazy bitch ;) | 06:49 |
| \sh | sistpoty: what about arkrpg? | 06:49 |
| sistpoty | \sh: since this is not marked done, it's your responsibility to also care for the libstdc++-transition ;) | 06:50 |
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| \sh | ah right :) | 06:51 |
| lucas | raphink: ping | 06:51 |
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| lucas | is there a MOTU here that could post some comments on REVU on my behalf ? | 06:57 |
| lucas | \sh ? | 06:57 |
| sistpoty | lucas: what comments do you want posted? | 06:58 |
| lucas | it's quite long so I'll put them online somewhere and you can just copy/paste | 06:59 |
| sistpoty | lucas: ok | 06:59 |
| lucas | sistpoty: gave you the address in pm | 07:01 |
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| dholbach | hey dredg, mgalvin | 07:18 |
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| dredg | now to make it work with 802.1x | 07:18 |
| mitsuhiko | hi dholbach | 07:18 |
| dholbach | hey mitsuhiko | 07:19 |
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| \sh | slomo: ping master of video stuff :) | 07:55 |
| slomo | \sh: pong :) but actually i like audio stuff more ;) | 07:55 |
| \sh | slomo: heard about a package of "gem"? | 07:56 |
| slomo | hmm, yes... but only the name, | 07:56 |
| \sh | slomo: funny thing: deb upstream removed "ffmpeg" support, because it can't be compiled with a new version of ffmpeg..but somehow it will compile in dapper with ffmpeg | 07:56 |
| slomo | hum | 07:58 |
| slomo | that's really funny | 07:58 |
| slomo | do you have the url to the buildlog or something? | 07:58 |
| slomo | (the failed one in debian) | 07:58 |
| \sh | no...it's build in debian..but failed in dapper | 07:59 |
| slomo | huh? even if i read your sentence above again i read it the other way around... well, ok ;) so in debian it works fine with ffmpeg and for us it fails... anyway, show me the buildlog :) | 08:00 |
| \sh | slomo: no...in debian it does compile without ffmpeg...but in dapper (same patches same source) it wants compile with ffmpeg | 08:01 |
| \sh | and ffmpeg looks like to come out of avcodec | 08:01 |
| slomo | yes, libavcodec comes from ffmpeg... hmmm | 08:02 |
| slomo | i'll take a look later if you want... first i'll fix galeon and liferea for new firefox ;) | 08:02 |
| \sh | i'll try to fix this now | 08:03 |
| slomo | ok, even better... but be prepared... working with ffmpeg is painfull most of the time ;) | 08:04 |
| sistpoty | I'm off for a while... cya later | 08:05 |
| === ogra remembers his ffmpeg merge marathon for breezy 6 months ago | ||
| \sh | hehe...no ffmpeg now...done worked...it pulled in some little piece of ffmpeg and this was throwing an error which I manually patched away :) | 08:09 |
| slomo | fine :) | 08:09 |
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| herve | hello | 08:11 |
| slomo | hi herve | 08:13 |
| dholbach | hi herve | 08:13 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 08:20 |
| herve | hi ajmitch | 08:20 |
| slomo | hi ajmitch | 08:20 |
| slomo | *sigh* galeon and liferea don't work with firefox 1.5 yet | 08:24 |
| ajmitch | ouch | 08:24 |
| === ajmitch uses galeon daily :( | ||
| === slomo searches for patches | ||
| ajmitch | I'd better not close it then | 08:24 |
| slomo | hehe | 08:24 |
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| slomo | ajmitch: hm, sorry... google doesn't find anything, in cvs are no changes specific to firefox... :( | 08:28 |
| herve | anyone to review a close to advocated nice little python package with fur? | 08:31 |
| herve | well... maybe not fur | 08:31 |
| slomo | ajmitch: and same for blam... omg :/ | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | better fix blam! | 08:36 |
| slomo | tell me how ;) i don't know anything about the gecko api | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | neither do I ;) | 08:39 |
| ajmitch | bbiab | 08:39 |
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| ajmitch | I guess we need to make universe installable again.. sigh | 09:25 |
| Seveas | ajmitch, damn | 09:34 |
| Seveas | it | 09:34 |
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| Seveas | it's so much fun when it's broken | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | I'd rather it be unbroken & working at all times | 09:35 |
| Seveas | ajmitch, ghe, then we have to stop shipping mozilla and X :) | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | nah, we have to fix them :) | 09:36 |
| Seveas | s/mozilla/firefox/ | 09:36 |
| slomo | do we have someone here who knows the gecko API? ;P blam, liferea and galeon need some love it seems... but galeon could be working from latest cvs, they did some mozilla API updates | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | debian will probably get the madness soon | 09:38 |
| slomo | will they switch to firefox too? | 09:39 |
| ajmitch | no idea | 09:39 |
| slomo | i wonder if gecko-sharp(2) still works... i have nothing to test it here :/ | 09:39 |
| Seveas | slomo, blam | 09:41 |
| ajmitch | Seveas: see above | 09:41 |
| slomo | Seveas: blam doesn't work anyway because it uses a native library linking against gecko... it doesn't even get to some gecko-sharp stuff ;) monodevelop uses it too but it crashes since 0.8 on my ibook and my pc is broken... | 09:42 |
| slomo | so if someone could test MD's doc browser... ;) | 09:43 |
| ajmitch | oh man, gnubuntu :) | 09:43 |
| Seveas | all stallmanists unite! | 09:43 |
| Seveas | :) | 09:43 |
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| slomo | gnubuntu? | 09:44 |
| Seveas | slomo, Ubuntu with horns | 09:44 |
| ajmitch | see sabdfl's latest email | 09:44 |
| slomo | who had this weird idea? ;) | 09:44 |
| slomo | oh *looks* | 09:44 |
| ajmitch | Seveas: don't worry, I even have the gnu.org email address to go with it :) | 09:44 |
| ajmitch | slomo: 'idealogically pure' ubuntu | 09:44 |
| Seveas | me is not so idealistic | 09:45 |
| ajmitch | also see ian jackson's post about firefox crack | 09:45 |
| dholbach | the party is the HUG DAY! :) | 09:45 |
| ajmitch | might be useful | 09:45 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 09:45 |
| ajmitch | hugs all around! :) | 09:45 |
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| herve | I can tell you X is broken too ;-) | 09:52 |
| slomo | herve: it is? ;) | 09:53 |
| herve | no, just the X binary that moved to /usr/bin | 09:53 |
| herve | ho, and the synaptics driver name change for laptop users | 09:54 |
| slomo | hmm, and the radeon driver for me... with and without exa enabled different broken behaviour ;) | 09:58 |
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| herve | either the package was also renamed | 09:58 |
| herve | or it's just a matter of moving it from /usr/X11R6/lib | 09:58 |
| ajmitch | daniels will fix once he wakes up, I'm sure | 10:00 |
| ajmitch | it's only 8am there now :) | 10:00 |
| dholbach | good night | 10:05 |
| ajmitch | night dholbach | 10:07 |
| dholbach | night andrew, night sebastian | 10:07 |
| herve | bye | 10:09 |
| dholbach | bye herv :) | 10:09 |
| \sh | siretart: don't worry about clanlib...i just made the transition. and yes you're welcome :) | 10:18 |
| \sh | siretart: and thx for fetchpackage...a really handy tool :) | 10:20 |
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| herve | good night | 10:38 |
| \sh | cu herve | 10:39 |
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| JanC | slomo: monodoc seems to work on current dapper | 11:09 |
| slomo | JanC: i meant monodevelop's integrated doc browser... sorry | 11:09 |
| JanC | yeah, just checking | 11:10 |
| JanC | seems to work too | 11:10 |
| slomo | ok, thanks :) then gecko-sharp(2) should be fine | 11:10 |
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