[12:03] <\sh> minghua: why? doko is just my boss :) [12:03] \sh: just let you know that I'm working on scim (libscim8) on Debian side, so you can leave it alone [12:03] LaserJock: unfrgiven works on it for dapper again [12:03] <\sh> minghua: can u file a bug in malone (see my other bugs) [12:04] slomo: have you talked to him recently? I haven't been able to get in touch with him for a while [12:04] <\sh> minghua: regarding the cxx abi change...so we know that someone is working on it [12:04] \sh: will do [12:04] LaserJock: no, same for me :/ [12:04] <\sh> minghua: cool [12:05] hmm, the fonts seem more crisp after an upgrade today in Dapper. Maybe I'm just seeing things differently. [12:05] slomo: on the 5th he said he would get a svn repo for me to get the docs but he hasn't emailed since [12:07] slomo: do you know if he had a docbook version or if it was just pdf and odt? [12:07] pdf and odt... but i suggested him to use docbook in the future [12:07] ah, it's the Cairo conversion! [12:08] (RE: gtk2-engines-clearlooks) [12:08] though it's not really the fonts but the theme. Neat. [12:08] \sh: is there some format requirement? (like the merge bugs, in case there is some automated tracker) [12:09] <\sh> minghua: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4803 take is as example [12:09] Malone bug #4803: arkrpg: libstdc++ new allocator build Fix req. for: arkrpg (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4803 [12:09] slomo and MOTUs: do you think it is worth while for me to start work on making a docbook version and getting it into the doc-team repo? [12:09] <\sh> or use the new version of lpbugs.py in my bzr archive [12:09] LaserJock: no idea, really... write him again ;) [12:09] <\sh> bzr merge or branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools [12:10] crimsun: ah, another one liking clearlooks-cairo :) [12:10] i still hate the colors [12:10] slomo: yes, I couldn't put my finger on it at first after I logged in, but it's obvious now after reading the changelog. [12:10] just the blue really [12:16] <\sh> Nafallo: ping...please mention the cxx changes in the debian/changelog :) [12:17] <\sh> Nafallo: forget it [12:17] <\sh> Nafallo: it was in the second part of the changelog...shitty display i have here. [12:18] \sh: :-P === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0775.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] <\sh> ok..time for the last cigarette for this morning till I wake up === ompaul_ [n=ompaul@213-202-128-109.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] Nafallo: are you proceeding in any order down the list? [12:29] (for c2-> c2a) [12:30] (referring to http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-November/000016.html) [12:31] crimsun: nope, I took the ones I did :-) [12:32] Nafallo: k === marcin` [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] <\sh> ok..good night gentlemen..cu in the morning :) [12:40] \sh: good night [12:46] good night everybody [12:46] 'night, daniel [12:47] cya dholbach === crimsun grumbles at malone. libtorrent is in fact a valid source name, thank you. === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === Ubugtu` [n=bugbot@81.171.100.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asbin [n=asbin@aristote.asbin.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] if a bug is seems to be fixed in dapper, do I mark it fixed? [01:19] choose Fixed [01:19] then add a status note [01:19] "Fixed in Dapper" [01:20] k [01:23] slomo: sanity-check please, before I upload: does libstdc++ allocator transition for libwfmath-0.3-3 -> libwfmath-0.3-3c2a look ok? [01:23] slomo: (just the name change) [01:25] crimsun: yes. [01:25] "The new suffix for [01:25] these packages should be in any case "c2a" (instead of "c2"). No [01:25] new suffix is needed when the soname changes in a new upstream [01:25] upload." [01:25] hum, evil line breaks [01:26] ok. [01:26] We went with libwfmath-0.3c2; Debian went with libwfmath-0.3-3. [01:26] the debian did it wrong afaik... [01:27] ok, np, I've covered both cases in Conflicts/Replaces anyhow :) [01:27] but as i understand doko's mail on the debian ml we need to get c2a in any case ;) [01:27] hehe ok [01:28] wait and see what debian does? :-) [01:28] hmm [01:29] last-uploader demands stuff to be installed. [01:29] where do I file a bug? :-P [01:30] how else do you want to get the changelog? [01:30] off the web? [01:31] extracting it from the .deb ;) [01:31] nah [01:31] http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/g/gnue-common/gnue-common_0.6.0-1ubuntu1/changelog [01:31] yes, if the package is not installed, sniff changelogs.u.c or something :-P [01:31] hmm, gnome-media 2.12.O-X... [01:31] slomo: yep [01:31] typoism ;) [01:32] at first i thought my eyes were damaged ;) [01:32] slomo: tsss, I didn't had that much porn, had I? :-) [01:34] hm? [01:34] oh, nm. I'm just getting tired. [01:35] hm [01:35] I wonder if my parents could come over tomorrow [01:35] they have a 19" monitor for me :-P [01:36] so I can take the old monitor (blue-ish) and build a testbed :-) [01:37] anyway, gnight [01:37] 'night [01:37] gn8 === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-64-230.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] katie must be bombarded [02:07] tktkyrthjj gtttttttttu === ctd [n=ctd@unaffiliated/ctd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@24-119-209-132.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] tseng: heh nice [02:10] tseng: have you hit any hard spots? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] morning Lathiat :) [02:27] ..great. firefox just exploded, taking down all my bugzilla and malone windows. [02:28] sounds about right [02:28] ;-) === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:34] Lathiat: yes [02:35] tseng: i'd be interested to hear the details [02:35] Lathiat: i have a group of navigation links in the layout in a sidebar [02:35] which will go on every page, so i made it a component [02:35] you cant do ajax on a component because its not directly web accessible [02:35] crimsun: heh [02:35] crimsun: konqueror has this nice trick [02:35] i had to call it from a controller, which almost defeats the purpose [02:36] crimsun: when the kaffeine plugin launches, then it cant start alsasink [02:36] crimsun: the whole process goes kaboom and eats all my windows [02:36] tseng: hrm === rajasun [n=penanshi@bb220-255-204-45.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] tseng: should stuck it in the application controller or helper perhaps? [02:36] Lathiat: lovely. [02:36] Lathiat: yep. [02:36] well not really [02:36] those dont map to a url either do they? [02:37] you need to be able to do a GET on it [02:37] the application controller can it hink [02:37] not sure on that [02:37] i see what your saying === Lathiat hrms [02:37] its not *that* much work to put it in a helper on component [02:37] i think thats what the application controller is for [02:37] and call it from each controller [02:37] the application controler is the aprent of all the other controllers [02:37] so instead of putting the same call in each controller [02:37] you smack it in the application.rb controller [02:37] hm [02:37] i think.. [02:37] try it [02:37] yeah [02:38] next week, its a holiday here [02:38] :) [02:38] ok [02:38] :) [02:38] im working at a hosting company doing support atm [02:38] i will be bugged all week, i had to leave an almost finished function [02:38] heh [02:39] everything but the component has been totally easy === Lathiat nods [02:39] one thing i discovered the other day [02:39] and i dunno how i missed it all this time [02:39] is full text indexing/searching in mysql [02:40] yep [02:40] unfortunately i have to do it manually since AR doesnt do it sine its an extension === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] Lathiat: have you done any custom routing yet? [02:47] tseng: yeh i was fiddling with it [02:47] it was a bit messy [02:47] works great for me [02:48] /model/controller/field1/field2 [02:48] well what i was trying to do [02:48] is /store/5/item/4 [02:48] where item is a controller [02:48] i am sick of that ?&?&?&?= nonsense [02:48] as is store [02:48] i sort of got it working [02:48] hm that does sound messy [02:48] did you really want a join? [02:49] well take [02:49] /category/5/item/4 [02:50] in the situation where items can be in more than 1 category [02:50] and you want to keep history [02:50] without using cookies or something that would break when using more than 1 page at once etc [02:50] is there a better way to solve that? [02:50] oh [02:50] the way i have it you view /list/2/4 [02:50] then from there you go to show/24 [02:50] for the specific item === haller [n=haller@dslb-084-061-209-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] hm im not sure where mine would break like that [02:50] if you are on /category/5 [02:51] and click to item/24 [02:51] you go Back to category 5 [02:51] yo could also see item 24 on cat 4 [02:51] maybe i dont understand yet [02:51] tseng: so when an item can belong to many categories [02:52] how do i remember that they got to that item from category [02:52] http referrer? [02:52] sessions [02:52] what software is this? [02:52] what if they go through and add the item to their cart, say i wanted to go back to the category then [02:52] or sessions. [02:52] the referrer wont be there anymore [02:52] Amaranth: ruby on rails [02:52] Amaranth: that breaks multi page [02:52] if i have 10 tabs open [02:52] ah, this explains much [02:52] browing a host of items === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] in different categories [02:53] if i just store it in the session it'l go to buggery [02:53] Lathiat: No real user does that. [02:53] Amaranth: i do it all the time [02:53] Amaranth: and its certainly not a use case that should be broken [02:53] where avoidable [02:53] Lathiat: You are a _very_ small minority. [02:53] Lathiat: There is no other way. [02:53] Amaranth: when im browing say, thinkgeek [02:53] Amaranth: sure there is [02:53] Amaranth: /category/5/item/4 [02:53] in the url [02:53] lets look at thinkgeek :) [02:54] the url is a reliabel way to encode that [02:54] so on thinkgeek i go browsing [02:54] i open up liek 30 tabs of things i want to look at [02:54] and go sort through them bit by bit [02:54] maybe thats just me :) [02:54] http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/cables/69d3/ [02:54] back takes me to [02:54] http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/ [02:54] oh! ok [02:54] see /pcmods/cables/69d3 [02:54] thats _exactly_ what im talking about [02:55] encoding the category in the url [02:55] ok in routes.rb [02:55] you can make a nil parameter [02:55] i managed to make it work [02:55] so /store/category/cat#/item# [02:55] but what i couldnt get [02:55] you do item => :nil [02:55] and its optional [02:55] tseng: ah see, that would make more sense [02:55] mmm [02:55] yeah [02:55] and how would i map the item bit? [02:56] see [02:56] if you get an item in the controller function [02:56] i had the items in a separate controller [02:56] you can render a different page [02:56] so was sort of tryin to cross-controller things [02:56] ok hows this [02:56] two routes [02:56] probably the wrong approach [02:56] one w/ item [02:56] one w/o [02:56] call brb [02:56] go to seperate controllers [02:56] it would totally work [02:56] if you put the more specific one first [02:57] that sounds like the winner. [02:57] /store/cat/5 routes to store -> category [02:57] /store/cat/5/item# routes to store -> item [02:58] you can enforce valid input with a regex [03:11] ah ok [03:11] right [03:11] i think that what i ended up doing [03:11] the only problem i had then [03:11] was when using link_tos [03:11] they linked to /store/cat/5/controller/action [03:11] now while thats good [03:11] i couldnt figure out how tom ake a link_to go outside that when i wanted it to [03:12] e.g. /store/controller/action [03:17] why does firefox still say deer park [03:17] Lathiat: you give it the controller [03:17] Lathiat: link_to "Blah", { :controller => "controller", :action => :function } [03:24] tseng: yeh but [03:24] the way i was doing it [03:24] maybe i was routing wrong [03:24] when i did that [03:24] i ended up with /store/cat/5/controller/action [03:24] i think perhaps i had my routes.rb wrong [03:25] i think so [03:25] it only makes up funny urls if there is a route for it [03:26] hrm === ctd [n=ctd@unaffiliated/ctd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@24-119-209-132.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-75-241.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-122-19.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-52-142.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-178-175.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] hi all === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=daniele@host237-122.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.15.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] anyone restarted X lately? [07:27] and fixed whatever is pissing it off [07:31] I zapped the X server, but it seems to restart fine, and I can log in === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zoe [n=zoe@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d058238.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] morning all === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] <\sh> hmmm [09:38] <\sh> x just gone === sedak [n=fred@c27fc601.adsl.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-75-241.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] does anyone know if there is a python setup.py uninstall ? :) [09:51] <\sh> sivang: www.python.org -> doc -> distutils [09:51] <\sh> in the library section i think...i honestly don't know [09:53] \sh: I'm reading there, well there's gotta be a way since debian packages allow you to remove pyprogs === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0C3E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] I just wish p.o had a better search capability [10:00] good morning [10:00] re daniel [10:00] hi daniel :) === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] hi slomo [10:37] hi zakame :) [10:38] re zakame, slomo [10:38] slomo: I'll be merging in ffmpeg & vlc today based on the latest Sid changes [10:38] how's the archives now? is debhelper (or po-debconf) ok now? :) [10:38] ffmpeg -5 is a minor change if you want to go ahead [10:38] crimsun: ffmpeg? i can do that if you want ;) but did you ping elmo about moving it back to universe? [10:39] slomo: libpostproc-dev is in universe according to p.u.c :)) [10:39] crimsun: perfect :) [10:40] zakame: no major borkage aside from modular X.Org, but that's being fixed [10:40] crimsun: hmm, all our changes have to be applied again to ffmpeg... this guy doesn't read his bug reports it seems ;) [10:40] slomo: unfortunately [10:41] i guess i can just take the debdiff from http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ffmpeg/ ... [10:41] crimsun: ooh :) [10:46] siretart: ping? === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] crimsun: uploaded ffmpeg [10:51] slomo: awesome, thanks :) === alexamici [n=aa@81-208-88-18.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alexamici [n=aa@81-208-88-18.ip.fastwebnet.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-66-254.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === colinl [n=colin@colino.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] hi there! [11:34] hi [11:34] just a question :) : are security updates in universe automatically synced from debian packages? [11:35] no [11:35] ok [11:35] no security updates are automatically synced [11:35] who should I contact to ask for an update? [11:35] (us) [11:36] I recently found a local vuln in the soft I develop, and the fix hit Debian yesterday [11:36] ah, cool [11:36] so, here you are: [11:36] http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-908 [11:36] debdiff would be awfully nice [11:37] ok! :) how do I do that? [11:37] generate it against the current version in universe and a version with the security errata backported === StevenK wishes he was whitelisted so someone could upload his merge. [11:39] crimsun: ok, i'll try to do that [11:39] mmmh [11:40] the versions are awfully different [11:40] for sylpheed, there are 2.0.4 in debian Sid and 2.1.1 in universe [11:40] for -claws-gtk2, there are 1.9.100 in Sid and 1.9.14 in universe === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:42] Nafallo: ping, seems crimsun already fixed #4523 via #4647 (cool number ;) [11:42] crimsun: should I generate packages from the latest upstream versions ? [11:43] colinl: no, backport the security fixes if possible, please [11:43] ok [11:49] bug 4523 [11:49] Malone bug #4523: torcs: merge new debian version Fix req. for: torcs (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4523 [11:52] crimsun: ok, so, apt-get source'd it, added a patch in debian/patches and the changelog entry. [11:53] yay double-work :-P [11:53] crimsun: next step is dpkg-buildpackage ? === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] crimsun: I don't remember the parameters :) [11:55] colinl: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -k [11:55] as in 0x12345678 ? [11:56] the 0x is optional === Nafallo usally types his -knafallo@ubuntu.com [11:57] yeah, that too :) === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] crimsun: there are packages for sylpheed-claws and sylpheed-claws-gtk2 in universe [12:01] sylpheed-claws is gtk1 and completely unmaintained [12:01] I suggest it gets dropped :) === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] crimsun: is that what you need? [12:12] http://colino.net/tmp/sylpheed-claws-gtk2_1.9.14-2.debdiff [12:14] bbl [12:14] colinl: essentially, yes. === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-12-176-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-78-115.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F7B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] crimsun: still there? === markuman [n=supermar@p5092593B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] is there anyone feeling like updating 3 packages in universe to fix a local buffer overflow? (debdiffs provided) [01:47] colinl: forward them to me and i'll pass them onto security review [01:47] lathiat at ubuntu.com [01:47] Lathiat: thanks [01:47] colinl: thank-you :) [01:48] Lathiat: the debdiffs have huge diffs in config.guess and/or config.sub, should I remove them from the patch of leave it as-is? [01:48] colinl: eh you can filter those out if you like [01:48] see filterdiff [01:48] k, thanks [01:48] i hate that === StevenK ponders working on another merge while waiting for upload@ul.o [01:55] Lathiat: mail sent [01:55] That reminds me. Is dapper unbroken? [01:58] StevenK: the archive can build packages again, if that is what you mean [01:58] hi folks [02:04] there's a new pbuilder :) === StevenK bounces impatiently waiting for an answer from elmo and then realises he went through waiting for the DAM. :-) === StevenK wonders if bugs filed in Malone are source or binary package. [02:05] I think source package === StevenK files another merge bug. === StevenK quickly comes to the conclusion that the patch included in the merge so isn't needed. === zakame [n=zak@210.1.88.243] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] hi all === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487F917.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-78-115.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] hi folks [03:35] ping \sh [03:35] hey sistpoty [03:35] hi zakame [03:37] huhu sistpoty [03:37] hi siretart === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] siretart, \sh: currently the merge-list will update the package status only if a malone bug with "merge new debian version" as subject is filed... [03:39] sistpoty: did \sh talk to you about the merge lists and the c2a transition? [03:40] siretart: no, he didn't... that's what i wanted to ask ;= [03:40] ;) [03:42] siretart, \sh: the first thing i wanted to change is that the list can also be updated by malone bugs with another title... what should that be? [03:44] sistpoty: whats wrong with the current title? [03:45] hm... for libstdc++-only changes "merge new debian version" might be inaccurate? [03:46] your right [03:46] damn... there seems s.th. completely wrong with the email-parser... i wonder why it's working *g* [03:49] hm [03:49] perhaps procmail would be worth to look at? ;) [03:51] siretart: maybe... but I don't think it would ease this very much ;) === sistpoty needs to look at malone-mails again === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-18-121-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart is currently at work, and I need to after work to kathrin [03:53] she had a bad car accident yesterday [03:54] oh... is she fine? [03:55] <\sh> sistpoty: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/4798 [03:55] Malone bug #4798: digikam: libstdc++ new allocator build Fix req. for: digikam (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4798 [03:55] <\sh> sistpoty: take the subject as example [03:55] <\sh> sistpoty: I adjusted lpbugs to have a -r option as add for the -n switch [03:56] ok, thx \sh [03:57] hey \sh [03:57] sistpoty: yes, fortunatly, nobody got injured [03:57] <\sh> moins siretart [03:57] :) [03:57] <\sh> siretart: what happend to your gf? [03:58] sistpoty: both cars are 'totalschaden' (fucked up beyond all repair, fubar) [03:58] \sh: some idiot drove into her [03:58] <\sh> siretart: shit... [03:59] <\sh> siretart: hope she's well... [03:59] o damn... claudi also had an accident lately. she slided and crashed her car, but luckily nobody was hurt as well === hunger [n=hunger@p54A620F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] gmrl... i think i definitely broke the email-parser right now... hope that i'll have it fixed in a few minutes === marc_ [n=marc@203.59.142.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrissturm [i=chris@85-124-168-18.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] \sh: she says she is okay. I'll see her later [04:23] \sh: email-parser is fixed now... it should accept "libstdc++ new allocator build" as bug-title as well. could you please verify this for the next bug you file? [04:23] <\sh> sue [04:23] <\sh> sure [04:26] is there somebody working on getting a new network manager version into dapper? [04:26] or will nm be in main for dapper? === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] \sh: anything else needed for libstdc++ stuff in the merge-list? [04:36] <\sh> sistpoty: hmmm...write some text after the package name "no merge" [04:37] <\sh> but only when it's really c++ and no merge [04:37] hm... if it's no merge and only c++, you don't have the scott link... but i can make this clearer ;) [04:37] <\sh> and we have to make sure that the merges which are already done, but need to be transitioned, are shown again as non-merge [04:38] ok, this will be a little bit tougher... but I'll take care of that [04:38] <\sh> kewl :) [04:40] ok, "no merge" is done ;) [04:41] <\sh> sistpoty: btw...one idea === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F7B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] <\sh> can we create a "public imap folder" for the universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com address on tiber? [04:42] <\sh> I would like to have access to the buglists via public imap connection so I can write some things like kbugbuster [04:42] <\sh> without parsing html pages...and dealing with launchpad...but only until we have a running xmlrpc implementation [04:43] \sh: I have not the slightest clue about imap... but I don't object ;) [04:43] <\sh> sistpoty: but you have a clue about exim :) === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] <\sh> sistpoty: so I'll check during the weekend what is the best working solution for exim and imap servers :) [04:44] \sh: imo we'd need one "dummy" account where exim delivers mail to... and i guess an imap-server could be used from that mailfolder... [04:45] \sh: but you might want to ask siretart. iirc he has already done exim+imap stuff [04:45] <\sh> or we convert the mail to xml style..and creating an xmlrpc service :) [04:45] hehe === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [05:08] sistpoty: imap is easy to set up [05:08] i run courier on my network, basically install the packages and tweak a couple of settings [05:09] bmonty: cool :) [05:10] sistpoty: since \sh wants it public you'll need to configure the TLS stuff so the imap session is encrypted with SSL [05:10] without that passwords and such are sent in the clear === StoneTable [n=stone@c-67-175-222-241.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-227-135-218.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [n=danten@h186n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [05:51] sistpoty: I'm busy here at work, whats up with imap and exim? === Cimmerian [n=crom@80.239.71.231] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] ah, \sh seems to want an imap server on tiber with shared folders.. I see [05:52] yep [05:52] yeah, I could arrange something like that [05:52] cool [05:52] courier or cyrus? === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] siretart: i have no clue about imap... your choice ;) [05:53] I will think about that, and see that I get an imap running till sunday [05:53] :) [05:53] I'm not sure how much time I will have tomorrow [05:53] siretart: you merged clanlib from debian... is libstd++ change still needed? === siretart checks the changelog [05:57] sistpoty: ah, you ask because of the c2a transition? [05:57] exactly [05:57] if so, I'll put that back to new/unassigned [05:57] sistpoty: it is on doko's list, so it is needed [05:58] siretart: so you haven't done this... ok, I'll reset this package on the list [05:58] sistpoty: check doko's list in his announcement for packages that need to be transitioned [05:58] ah === herzi [n=herzi@c206146.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] no, I didn't do that [05:58] I didn't do any work on c2a yet [05:58] sorry [05:58] siretart: i already did this... there are only ~8 package for which I don't know the exact status. clanlib was one of them ;) === ryu [n=chris@p5487F917.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] grml... buglist down again... this is not my day *g* === hunger [n=hunger@p54A607B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-18-121-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F7B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13]