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LjLoblib: yeah, run sensors-detect, and it'll probably tell you you need to "modprobe" some modules12:00
rubemSeveas Look like i'll have to let my computer turned on all nigth long :P12:00
rubemanyone know the php ide named Tulip?12:01
Quistisi know Tulip is a network card driver12:01
PluckyBladeI've just done dist-upgrade to breezy..12:01
joftSeveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/494012:01
PluckyBladeall good except changing to a virtual console crashes X.org when I change back12:02
joftthat's from dpkg --configure --pending12:02
Seveashmm12:02
Seveassomething definitely borked then12:02
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Seveastry this now: apt-get -f install12:02
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Seveasand then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-dekstop if you use kubuntu)12:02
r3nd3zanyone know how i can find different harddrives? I got 2 connected, and i dont know how to fint the last one12:02
joftSeveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/494112:03
sethkPluckyBlade, that's easy, just never change back.  :)12:03
joftfrom -f install12:03
PluckyBladelol@sethk12:03
PluckyBladesad thing is suspend to ram works a dream.. until it wakes up :)12:03
krak`nixr3nd3z: does it show up in system > administration > disks?12:03
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jofthm, it didn't work?12:04
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Seveasit seems to have worked12:04
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Seveasbut the output is incomplete12:04
Seveaswhat's after the unpacking line?12:04
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joftyeah that's what i mean12:04
jofta bunch of errors12:04
r3nd3zkrak`nix, hmm, cant find any "disks" there12:04
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joftwhere's the apt error log?12:05
Seveascan you put the errors on the pastebin or in a private chat12:05
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Seveasthere is none12:05
Seveasapt-get -f install 2>&1 | python pastebin12:05
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PluckyBladeother bad news is amarok dies each time it changes song.12:05
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gar-ok i use NdisWrapper i loaded the driver and work say driver present but the usb adapter dont go on and i get error when i try to do ifcofing wlan0 or ifup wlan0 any idea how i can put it to work12:05
krak`nixr3nd3z: you're on breezy?12:05
mrkojehas anyone had the xorg ATI x700 problem?12:06
fluvvellPluckyBlade: I have a similar effect on the laptop, I blame the acpid because it comes up all hot and bothered after any sleep.12:06
jofthttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/494312:06
oblibLjL, okay, I have detected a module, how do I check the temp of the cpu?12:06
r3nd3zkrak`nix, , hmm, no, the one before that12:06
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gar-ok i use NdisWrapper i loaded the driver and work say driver present but the usb adapter dont go on and i get error when i try to do ifcofing wlan0 or ifup wlan0 any idea how i can put it to work12:06
Seveasjoft, sudo apt-get update12:07
Seveasjoft, sudo apt-get clean12:07
Seveasjoft, sudo apt-get -f install12:07
fluvvellgar-; have you looked at iwconfig?12:07
gar-yeap12:07
gar-i say i dont have wlan012:07
PluckyBladefluvvell -- everything was fine on hoary though..12:07
gar-only show 3 on the list12:07
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LjLoblib: type "sensors"12:08
krak`nixr3nd3z: ah ok, im on breezy :(12:08
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fluvvellPluckyBlade, the laptop is still on hoary lol!  I've got one of the desktops running on breezy upgrade ok12:08
mrkoje!dbkg12:08
ubotumrkoje: Do they come in packets of five?12:08
joftdone, looks like same errors12:08
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LjLoblib: there is also a package "sensord" which can monitor your sensors, log them and signal alarms12:08
r3nd3zkrak`nix,  ah, okey12:08
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Seveasjoft, including the apt-get clean?12:08
fluvvellPluckyBlade, but want to upgrade laptop as well.  Not had a lot of luck with suspend at all!12:08
oblibLjL, that's awesome, thanks.12:08
joftyes12:08
LjLoblib: or, you can install some Gnome or KDE frontend that can sit as a tray icon12:08
oblibLjL, that was my next question12:08
Zedughjoft, did you get you SegFault problem fixed?12:08
gar-fluvvell i try that one only show lo an etch0 and stio notting about wlan012:08
joftno12:08
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fseekhi12:09
TokenBadwhen installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?12:09
Seveasjoft, ok, then apt-get -f --force-overwrite install12:09
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fluvvellgar-, it might not be wlan0, mine comes up as eth112:09
oblibLjL, any ideas on what an appropriate max temp should be for a Celeron?12:09
PluckyBladeSuspend has been good on this one -- Dell latitude D40012:09
gar-yes12:09
fluvvellgar-, still another has a different interface name12:09
jofti'll try that next, i'm in the middle of -f dist-upgrade12:09
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gar-but mine is a usbwireless adapter12:09
LjLoblib: no, i have no clue12:09
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gar-DWL-G12212:09
fluvvellgar-, yes I see.12:09
joftactually i have to go out for a while now, i'll try what you said when i get back12:09
fluvvellgar-, which configuration method did you use?12:09
oblibAnyone, what is a safe max temperature for an intel celeron CPU?12:10
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gar-and also i have a ethernet card on the laptop that one the system get it it get the wireless adapter to on devices12:10
LjLoblib: type "apt-cache search sensor" for a nice selection of X, Gnome and KDE (as well as textmode) clients to monitor the sensors12:10
oblibLjL, thanks for the help12:10
joftif you wanted to suggest anything else pm it to me or i won't see it12:10
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purplefeltangelcan Archive Manager handle .zip files?12:10
gar-NdisWrapper12:10
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gar-sudo ndiswrapper -i file.inf12:10
navaronepurple> yes12:10
purplefeltangelnavarone: thanks12:11
fluvvellgar-, ok. so after ndsiwrapper set up what did you do then?12:11
LjLoblib: there is also "hddtemp" to monitor your hard drives' temperature. ksensors (a KDE applet) uses it as well as lm-sensors12:11
mipeHello. What should I do, my battery icons show right value?12:11
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navaroneAnyone else use stellarium prog? v nice12:12
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oblibLjL, how long have hard drives had temp monitoring stuff? I haven't heard of that before, I'm using an old 3 gig right now12:12
trappistmipe: you want them to show the wrong value?12:12
gar-fluvvell i did modprobe NdisWrapper12:12
gar-NdisWrapper -m12:12
LjLoblib: i'm not sure, to be honest. i think it was quite recently, i guess your HD doesn't have it, but i don't really know12:12
fluvvellgar-, and the driver lists when you do lsmod ?12:12
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gar-lsmod???12:13
gar-no idea12:13
rabaris there a difference between extreme digital and excellent digital camera cards?12:13
mifritscheroblib, my 80 GB IMB HDD has it, my 6 GB FUITISU HDD not12:13
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Zedughnavarone, i use stellarium and kstars, both nice, kstars more functional12:13
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mifritscherI thought that IBM was one of the first12:13
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navaroneZedugh> yes stellarium has the real wow factor tho...kinda like celstia12:13
LjLoblib: i think you should just try installing "hddtemp", then "sudo hddtemp /dev/hdX" will tell you whether you have the sensor or not12:14
oblibthanks mifritscher. So I'm guessing this one doesn't. okay LjL.12:14
gar-fluvvell i never did lsmod12:14
bloc76is there a php4 package for breezy. I only see php5.12:14
mifritscherI use webmin-smarty to get this info ;)12:14
mifritscherbloc76, yes, try apt-cache search php412:15
mifritscher(but why do you need php4?)12:15
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mipetrappist:Sorry this my mistake I have wrong value on my batteri icons, but when I run in shell command acpi, everything show ok.12:16
navaroneZedugh> was just looking at another astronomy prog... http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/   looks very good but needs to be installed by source. I have no luck with that...lol12:16
bloc76mifritscher: i only see php5. i need php 4 because that's what we use on our servers12:16
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bloc76mifritscher: is it in universe?12:16
mifritscherhmm, even with the apt-cache serach-command?12:16
bloc76mifritscher: yes12:16
mifritscherI thought php4 was in the main...12:16
bloc76mifritscher: apt-cache search php412:16
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mifritscherhmm, seems to be in universe...12:17
mifritscherFilename: pool/universe/p/php4/php4-common_4.4.0-3_i386.deb12:18
bloc76mifritscher: k, thanks12:18
fluvvellgar-, I take it you've read http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu ?12:18
bloc76mifritscher: hopefully this indicates the beginnings of real movement to php5 :)12:18
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mifritscherno problem :)12:18
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TokenBadwhen installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?12:19
gar-fluvvell i read alot of them with the same thing12:19
fluvvellgar-, so what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?12:19
Mabus06fluvvell, man ndiswrapper12:20
DarthFrogHi folks.  Are there any known issues with the ATI flgrx drivers and Breezy (kernel 2.6.12-9-k7)  I'm tearing my hair out, trying to get them to work.12:20
gar-everything run fine no problem the only thing is a i canot get the device to go up to work to detect on the network confg12:20
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colloroni'm runing ubuntu hoary from live cd. what can i use to open up a .rar file?12:21
DarthFrogcolloron: You need the unrar program.  It might not be on the CD.12:22
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colloronright so i've done apt-get update but its still not there12:22
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d03boysethk: thanks for all the help. Grub is back to normal :)12:22
sethkd03boy, good to hear.  I've gone through that process several times, as you may have guessed.  :)12:22
gar-fluvvell the only thing i notice is Installed ndis drivers:12:23
gar-mrv8ka51        driver present, hardware present12:23
amonkeydoes anyone know how to get sound to work with google video? everything else seems to play fine.12:23
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mrkojeDoes anyone know if i can use (haven't tried it yet and don't want to waste time) If i can install the ATI linux proprierty drivers with Breezy Live?12:23
fluvvellMabus06, its gar- that is using ndiswrapper,12:23
d03boyDoes anyone have any suggestions for a wireless manager? Mine doesnt work so well--it shows that it can see my network and everything but never actually establishes a connection :(12:23
gar-fluvvell but i dont say hardware present12:23
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jorge_hey guys, how do i log out of KDE through konsole12:23
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DarthFrogmrkoje: I'm fighting with the ATI drivers right now.  AFAICT, they don't work with Breezy.12:23
Seveasjorge_, not12:24
gar-fluvvell it say driver present but dont say hardware present12:24
d03boyjorge_: I think you actually have to kill the process12:24
Seveasor by restarting kdm12:24
jorge_Seveas: what?12:24
jorge_not?12:24
jorge_not is a command?12:24
jorge_or...12:24
Seveasno12:24
mrkojeDarthFrog: pain in the ass12:24
Seveasit is not possible unless you use the command to restart kdm12:24
jorge_how can I, I dont have access to the taskbar12:24
gar-fluvvell do u think it could me the driver???12:24
mrkojedarthFrog: isn't it12:24
jorge_I'm using gdm not kdm12:24
fluvvellgar-, what? is the hardware plugged in?   you just said" mrv8ka51        driver present, hardware present "12:24
SeveasDarthFrog, use the latest drivers from ati.com12:24
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jorge_nevermind brb12:24
phin3asSeveas, do you code functionally in any language?12:24
Seveasthey work like a charm12:24
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fluvvellgar-, is that what it said or not?12:24
gar-that is a sample12:24
gar-that is not actualy my driver and my wireless usb adapter is plugin12:25
jorge_shutdown12:25
mrkojeSeveas: The ATI Linux Propriety Drivers right? Can we Install those even with a live cd12:25
gar-it only say driver present but it dont say hardware present12:25
DarthFrogSeveas: I am, darnit.12:25
Seveasphin3as, that is quite off topic in here, so if you want to continue this discussion -> #ubuntu-offtopic and yes I can code in quite a few languages12:25
d03boyanyone know what I need to do in order to make it so ubuntu will actually "enable" my wireless when it is available?12:25
d03boyi'm not sure if there is a special app I need to use..12:25
fluvvellgar-, and the output of ndiswrapper -l   on *your* computer says...   what exactly?12:25
Seveasmrkoje, yes, but it'll be lost on updates12:25
gar-say12:26
phin3asSeveas, my apologies. I was merely wondering12:26
mrkojeas long as it wil get x up for 10 minutes i think I will be ok12:26
gar-PRISMUSB driver present12:26
gar-that all12:26
mrkojewindows update killed my raid!!!!!!!!!12:26
fluvvellgar-, thanks. got that12:26
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TokenBadanyone? please?12:26
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mrkojei think I am going to just install linux on that damn cpu now and emulate windows12:26
gar-fluvvell what do u think?12:27
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fluvvellgar-, I'm thinking along the lines of what usb support is there for wireless adaptors.12:27
bigfoot1how do i kill VLC Media player? I've tried xkill, but it doesn't work. If I have to do a command, please tell me the exact command.12:27
gar-that driver i downloaded from the dlink ftp12:27
Seveasfluvvell, USB wireless usually is a PITA12:27
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gar-PITA????12:27
Xenguybigfoot1: pkill  ?12:28
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fluvvellSeveas, not surprised really12:28
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fluvvellSeveas, usb gives me a few headaches in other places too.12:28
Astxistbigfoot1, try kill12:28
gar-i bin all day trying to figured it out12:28
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trappistbigfoot1: pgrep vlc12:28
TokenBadhmmm..maybe I am not being seen12:28
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bigfoot1trappist:12:28
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bigfoot1trappist: pgrep vlc12:28
bigfoot11777612:29
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fluvvellgar-, do you have any other wireless adaptors you can try?  eg pci card ?12:29
bigfoot1now what12:29
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trappistbigfoot1: kill 1777612:29
gar-fluvvell btw im using  ndiswrapper that come with ubuntu 5.0412:29
gar-nope12:29
bigfoot1trappist: it worked!12:29
bigfoot1thank you12:29
bigfoot1kill is stronger than xkill, i guess12:29
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Mabus06I have doom3 for linux, but it runs incredibly choppy. What can I do short of getting new hardware to improve it? I have 1gig of memory, a 2.8ghz processor, but only my onboard video card.12:30
ghostpsalmWhen compiling a kernel - is there any 'guide' to what each selection is?  And/Or can you download a minimal '.config' and add my desired drivers/modules myself?12:30
trappistkill goes after the process.  xkill is for a window.12:30
fluvvellgar-, is this for a laptop?12:30
gar-yeap12:30
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gar-gateway solo 955012:30
fletch33i am trying to set up frenx and i have my client working fine but i am lost with gettingmy server set up. both computers are running ubu and i have gone thru all the stpes on the wiki. i really need this and i have been working on it for days and i am at the end of my rope. does anyone have a moment that can help me see what i am missing12:30
Seveasghostpsalm, the general advice is to use ubuntu kernel sources and change .config to your needs12:30
Seveasghostpsalm, and *always* use make-kpkg12:30
navaroneMabus> with onboard vid you should lower graphic mode until game improves in fps12:30
fluvvellgar-, did you get the usb adaptor before putting ubuntu on, or is the wlan adaptor a recent aquisition?12:31
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gar-yes12:31
gar-is working now fine12:31
gar-on windows12:31
gar--_-12:31
fluvvellgar-, yes which?12:31
ghostpsalmSeveas: Why always use makekpkg?  And do you mean cp and 'make oldconfig'?12:31
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gar-windows xp12:31
gar-sux12:31
Seveasno12:31
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Xenguytrappist: pgrep is cool - never heard of that before12:31
Seveasghostpsalm, search the wiki for kernel12:32
Xenguytrappist: used to doing ps aux12:32
Xenguy|grep12:32
Seveasit has more detailed instructions12:32
trappistyeah me too :)12:32
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Xenguytrappist: pkill seems to work more consistently than killall I've found recently too12:32
ghostpsalmSeveas:  I have, and it suggest 'ByHand' if you are going to re-build it often.  My hope is to get the most minimal of kernel's (obviously that still wrks).12:32
fluvvellgar-, as painful as it may seem, you may be better with a pcmcia card that has drivers in linux/ubuntu already.12:32
TokenBadsomeone tell me what this means:    ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.12:33
d03boycan anyone recommend a good wireless connection manager12:33
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trappistyeah pkill if you trust that you aren't gonna kill anything else12:33
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gar-fluvvell but the beutifull part is that the ubuntu detect the usb adapter wireless card and everything on the device management12:33
ghostpsalmTokenBad: I am not sure, it may mean your kernel has not the drivers to run it successfully.  Or libraries.12:33
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blankymy sound in firefox isnt working (flash)12:33
trappistTokenBad: you have to give it a configuration directive to start either standalone or as an inetd service12:34
fletch33ooh please help woth freenx anyone12:34
TokenBadtrappist, it didn't ask12:34
purplefeltangelhow do i install fonts?12:34
trappistTokenBad: ask?  you put it in your config file12:34
bimberid03boy: network-manager looks good (although i haven't used it much)12:34
TokenBadwhat config?12:34
d03boyk12:34
TokenBadthe proftpd.conf?12:34
trappistyes12:34
fletch33i am half way there and have everything installed on client and server but something is worng on the server end12:35
TokenBadok once I edit..how would I restart it?12:35
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blankywtf, something's goign on with my pc12:35
toresnhow do i switch between the four desktops?12:35
pjssilvatoresn: crtl + alt + arrow12:36
Seveastoresn, click on the desktop switching applet12:36
bimberitoresbe: ctrl-alt-rightarrow (and -leftarrow)12:36
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TokenBadtrappist, once I edit the config..how restart it?12:36
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bimberitoresn ^^ (sry toresbe)12:36
ghostpsalmSeveas:  Why do you suggest *always* using make-kpkg.  Is there any problems making a lightweight kernel by hand?12:37
toresnpjssilva: ah. ok. is it possible to get more workspaces?12:37
blankyguys im so scared, I think my system is effed up. Firefox wont play files anymore, and flash doesnt have sound12:37
Seveasghostpsalm, make-kpkg can make lightweight kernels too12:37
pjssilvatoresn: Right click on the applet and configure it.12:37
blanky:'(12:37
Seveasthe advantage is that it makes .deb files and initrds for you automatically12:37
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trappistTokenBad: well that depends on how you're running it.  if it's an inetd service, restart inetd.  if you have an init script, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart.  if you just said ./proftpd, kill it and restart it.12:37
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j813Hi guys12:37
Seveastoresn, rightclick on the panel and select preferences12:38
ghostpsalmSeveas:  Explain how?  The Wiki says 'but it's also rather heavyweight'... and seems not to suggest otherwise?12:38
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Seveasghostpsalm, it just runs make bzimage modules-install (etc...)12:38
trappistSeveas: funny you should mention that, I couldn't get make-kpkg to make an initrd to save my life.12:38
Seveasand packages it nicely into a deb12:38
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bimberitoresn: you can also keyboard shortcuts to switch to Desktop # available (but unconfigured by default) in System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts12:39
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Seveastrappist, actually, I lied: the initrd is made by the configure step of the .deb package12:39
j813trappist what's your time there?12:39
blankyhey guys, in debfoster, what do i have to press to remove a package, r, or p12:39
TokenBadumm...ok...I don't think its running at all then...12:39
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trappistj813: 173912:39
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TokenBadcause I didn't do anything to start it12:39
ghostpsalmSo it replaces a handful of commands?  What is the benefit of it being in /deb format?12:39
Seveasblanky, r = remove, p = remove and remove all its dependencies that are not needed by others12:39
j813just slept for while now AM here :)12:40
blankythanks i love you12:40
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trappistSeveas: installing the resulting .deb didn't give me an initrd either.  neither did a manual make install.  I simply could not get an initrd for my custom kernel.12:40
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basti__is there any command that will show me all the users that exist on the pc?12:40
NsOmNiAcwhoah12:40
Seveastrappist, make-kpkg --initrd12:40
NsOmNiActrappist12:40
trappistSeveas: cool12:40
NsOmNiAchey trappist *hugs*12:40
trappistNsOmNiAc: hey dude12:40
purplefeltangelhow do i install fonts?12:41
NsOmNiAcyour trying it out huh ?12:41
bimberibasti__: cat /etc/passwd12:41
TokenBadtrappist, that fixed it..thanks so much12:41
trappistNsOmNiAc: I wouldn't call it that.  I'm already in love :)12:41
NsOmNiAcme too12:41
NsOmNiAc8-)12:41
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ghostpsalmSeveas:  I guess my real question is, if I run through the entire KernelByHand howto; all I would have lost in comparrisson to make-kpkg is time?12:41
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basti__thank you bimberi12:41
Seveaspurplefeltangel, drop them in ~/.fonts/12:41
purplefeltangelseveas, thanks12:41
bimberibasti__: np :)12:41
ghostpsalmSeveas: And the --append-to-source name thingy?12:41
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blankyI'M SO FRICKIN SCARED! sorry, my firefox wont play flash files and sound isnt there anymore! :'(12:41
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Seveasghostpsalm, I couldn't give a definite answer, since I never completed either of these guides :)12:42
j813Guys is it also safe to install 5.10 on a a logical partition, the primary has Windows XP NTFS, others has VFAT.12:42
ghostpsalmSeveas: Oke.  Cheers.  Maybe I'll let you know...12:42
trappistghostpsalm: there's a lot of reasons it's nice to make a .deb.  for one thing, there's a long list of reasons it's better to stay with your distro's package manager whenever possible.12:42
Seveasj813, yes it is, but you need ext3 for linux12:42
oblibGeneral quesion: I remember reading about a remote access program similar to vnc. Does anyone know what it's called. It's supposed to be much faster. Has anyone used it?12:42
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Seveas(or anything supported, aka: not fat or ntfs)12:42
bimberioblib: freenx12:43
purplefeltangelseveas, wait, *where* is that exactly?12:43
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trappistoblib: freenk12:43
oblibthat's the one12:43
bimberiubotu tell oblib about freenx12:43
trappisterr what he said12:43
Seveaspurplefeltangel, ~/.fonts/12:43
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Seveasthe folder named .fonts in your homedir12:43
purplefeltangeloh ok12:43
purplefeltangelthanks12:43
fletch33anyone help with my freenx server problem?12:43
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Seveasfletch33, 'sup?12:43
navaronepurple> you may have to show hidden files to see the .fonts folder12:43
GlobeCodercan someone help me with ubuntu?12:43
fletch33Seveas,  going mad setting up the server12:44
j813Seveas was trying out the 5.10 manual partition & gave me a choice to delete the existing Fedora but was not sure if ti will affect the Windows parts12:44
ghostpsalmtrappist: I did not thin that would matter so with the kernel - it does not boot from a .deb does it?  So it just makes it easier to 'install' or something?12:44
Seveas!tell GlobeCoder about anyone12:44
Seveasj813, it will not12:44
GlobeCodero12:44
GlobeCoderalrighty12:44
fletch33Seveas, client working great but i cant get it going on server i follwed the direxctions on the wiki12:44
purplefeltangelnavarone: how do i do that12:44
GlobeCoderwell this is my problem12:44
GlobeCoderhttp://img499.imageshack.us/img499/935/linux7gx.png12:44
Seveasfletch33, what's there to setup, just apt-get install...12:44
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fletch33Seveas, it says i have the latest version installed but then i cant do anything else12:45
micksoh my. I've been using ubuntu for more than a year, but today i came across a problem i can't solve in 5.10. i installed it for a friend and he wants to run Kde applications, which i never done. the czech fonts don't display correctly in these applications, although the overall localization works great - i have never used kde on linux, so i'm not sure how to solve this.12:45
trappistghostpsalm: easier to install, makes it possible to query relevant files through the package manager, maintain versions, install the same kernel on 100 other boxes, etc.12:45
purplefeltangelok, seveas, i r n00b. where is homedir12:45
navaronepurple> go to Places/Home folder and then in the file browser go to View and check Show hidden files12:45
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Seveasfletch33, and what is the error?12:45
Mabus06how come my sound card isn't outputting any sound?12:45
j813Guys are you bots? Did you slept already? Joke. Thanks guys!12:45
Seveaspurplefeltangel, /home/your_user_name12:45
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fletch33Seveas, what do u want me to type to find it12:45
Weng... Is the netboot install kernel a 2.4 kernel?12:45
Astxistj813, what is this sleep you speak of ;p ?12:46
SeveasGlobeCoder, you need more diskspace12:46
ghostpsalmtrappist: Doyou mind explaining 'query relevant files' and why I may want to, and also 'maintain versions'?12:46
robert__what fonts do you want to install purplefeltangel, there may be a package with them in12:46
GlobeCoderSeveas, how?12:46
fletch33Seveas,  i get permission denied12:46
purplefeltangelseveas: thx but there's no "fonts" folder there..."12:46
Seveasfletch33, I don't understand the problem: does it fail to install, fail to connect...12:46
Mabus06can someone help me to get my sound card working? I don't know where to start12:46
Seveaspurplefeltangel, .fonts12:46
Seveasand you should create it :)12:46
purplefeltangelseveas: yeah, its not there12:46
purplefeltangelseveas: well how will that work :/12:47
SeveasGlobeCoder, repartition, buy a new hard drive, throw away some files....12:47
navaronepurple are you using gui or cli?12:47
Seveaspurplefeltangel, mkdir ~/.fonts12:47
GlobeCoder:F12:47
purplefeltangelnavarone: gui12:47
purplefeltangelseveas: ok12:47
purplefeltangelrobert__: arial, comic sans...basically the microsoft webfonts pack12:47
fletch33Seveas, it says it is installed with the latest version but i have never seen anything else to make options or anything after i choose no key12:47
Mabus06Seveas, I just put my audio card in my computer and turned it on, but I play rhythmbox and it doesn't play. Where do I start to fix it?12:47
GlobeCodercant i just resize the virtual hd Seveas ?12:47
navaronepurple> go to menu item PLaces at top..then Home Folder and in file browser go to View and click show hidden files12:47
trappistghostpsalm: you can say dpkg -L kernelpackagename | grep foo and see if you forgot to compile a module, for example... you could make a custom repo with your kernels... mostly there are dozens and dozens of things, and almost all of them come down to: it's better to stick with your distro's package manager wherever feasible.12:48
Seveasfletch33, at which point do you get the 'permission denied'?12:48
robert__you want the package msttfonts then12:48
bimberipurplefeltangel: install the msttcorefonts package from universe12:48
robert__that's the one12:48
SeveasMabus06, wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems12:48
bimberipurplefeltangel: er, *multiverse12:48
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SeveasGlobeCoder, do you run it in vmware?12:48
fletch33Seveas, when i ran the setup command12:48
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purplefeltangelbimberi: thanks, but my friend also sent me some other fonts that iw ant to install ... :/12:48
GlobeCoderSeveas, Microsoft Virtual PC 200412:48
fluvvellgar-, yes it may detect that its there, this doesn't promise it will all work.12:48
Seveasfletch33, why would you run a setup command?12:48
SeveasGlobeCoder, iirc VPC and Ubuntu are not friends12:48
bimberipurplefeltangel: k12:49
Seveasbut at least increase the virtual harddisk12:49
robert__purplefeltangel: you'll need to add the universe repository if you haven't already12:49
fletch33Seveas,  well where can i find it on my computer?12:49
purplefeltangelrobert__: i did12:49
Seveasfletch33, find what?12:49
GlobeCoderdam12:49
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micksanybody encountered the kde apps central european fonts problem? how do i point the applications in the direction of the correct fonts - (they're already there and the gtk apps are working ok)?12:50
fletch33Seveas,  well i ran everyting on the wiki and my client is setup and i ran everything for the server but what now?12:50
Mabus06can someone help me to get my sound card working? I don't know where to start. I just plugged it in, lspci recognizes it, but it doesn't output sound.12:50
robert__has anyone noticed weird font kerning issues in firefox?12:50
Seveasfletch33, connect :)12:50
Seveasrun the client12:50
Seveasfill in the data for the server12:50
navaroneMabus> run alsamixer in terminal to see if the output is muted12:50
robert__like fonts jumping around when you select text?12:50
purplefeltangelok, so, i have installed the ms core fonts, but hwat about the other ones my friend sent me?12:51
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trappistmicks: kcontrol has a fonts configurator iirc12:51
robert__not much but its noticable12:51
fletch33Seveas,  that is where i am lost and i have been searchoing the interner for days12:51
mickstrappist: thanks, i'll look for it12:51
Seveasfletch33, the client installs a menu entry in applications -> internet12:51
Seveasuse that12:51
j813Is there an Enterprise Edition, what's the difference & where can I download it? :)12:51
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fletch33Seveas,  i tink something is not right on my server because i never had to choose a password or anything12:52
Seveasj813, not yet, the diff. is duration of support (3 to 5 years instead of 18 monthd)12:52
GlobeCoderk Seveas12:52
Seveasfletch33, password for what?12:52
Mabus06navarone, nope, it's at 100 but the device it lists is my onboard instead of my pci card12:52
GlobeCoderyou think 16000 mb is enough?12:52
Seveasthe freenx server does not need passwords, it uses system passwords12:52
bimberipurplefeltangel: copy them into ~/.fonts (as discussed)12:52
j813thanks Sev12:52
krak`nixgod12:52
purplefeltangelbimberi: and if the folder doesnt exist, i should just create it?12:52
DjKriticalDoes anyone know how to enabel automatic updates?.. is there a way in the gui or should I use cron?12:52
SeveasGlobeCoder, it should be12:52
navaroneMabus> ddi you use bios or jumpers to disable onboard sound? And what is card?12:52
purplefeltangeland that will work?12:52
fletch33Seveas,  well i have to put some info in the client to know where to connect to12:52
GlobeCoder:P12:52
Mabus06how do I make ubuntu use my sound card instead of onboard sound?12:52
krak`nixhate how you cant paste something if you close the app you copied it from12:53
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krak`nixbefore pasting :(12:53
Seveasfletch33, the IP address or hostname of the server12:53
bimberipurplefeltangel: yes, with "mkdir ~/.fonts"12:53
Mabus06navarone, the card is a C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC612:53
Mabus06it is recognized by lspci12:53
Seveasand your username and password on the server12:53
fletch33Seveas,  i tried both and denied12:53
krak`nixhttp://s87055070.onlinehome.us/ted/photo/m3u.png12:53
Mabus06I will brb after checking BIO12:53
krak`nixanyone know a fix?12:53
Mabus06S12:53
navaroneMabus> and did you disable the onboard sound?12:53
purplefeltangelbimberi: thanks12:53
Seveasfletch33, probably because you messed with nxsetup12:53
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yukailiAnybody know how to install Ubuntu on a computer running Windows>12:53
fletch33Seveas, and the client says please input the password when i try to connect12:53
bimberipurplefeltangel: no yet, make sure it works first :)12:54
bimberi*not12:54
GlobeCoderSeveas, its making the vhd now.12:54
fletch33Seveas,  it says connection refused12:54
vincenttotal noob to linux here, firefox will not connect to most websites, but having have connection to the interner as using it now. fresh install of breezy badger, any help?12:54
purplefeltangelbimberi: yup, it worked! :D thanks12:55
Seveasfletch33, then look at your firewall12:55
bimberipurplefeltangel: great! :) np12:55
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fletch33Seveas, i turned off the firewall and still no luck12:55
Seveasvincent: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.12:55
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robert__krak`nix i believe the next version of gnome has a clipboard applet12:56
Seveasfletch33, make sure port 22 isn't blocked and that the ssh server is installed on the server (if you use the ubuntu packages for freenx, it should all be ok)12:56
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purplefeltangelbimberi: they arent showing up in gaim. should i just restart it?12:56
Mabus06lspci recognizes my sound card but it is providing no output, can anyone offer some advice?12:56
bimberipurplefeltangel: hm, i guess so12:56
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PinTol o12:56
fletch33Seveas,  i did change the ports to 8888 and i put that in the client12:57
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ghostpsalmtrappist: How would I make a 'lightweight' kernel with make-kpkg?12:57
Seveasfletch33, did you do that in the NX server *AND* ssh server and restart the ssh server?12:57
trappistghostpsalm: same way you'd do it any other way.  do your make *config, remove stuff you don't need, build.12:57
PinTogoing bak to my problem make Xconfig doesnt work12:57
fletch33Seveas,  i didnt l;ook in synaptics for anything though12:57
PinToi need qt?12:57
mrkojeI got Breezy live working with ATI now... where would my harddrive be mounted>12:57
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vincentexcellent seveas, many thanks for swift and helpful response12:58
fletch33Seveas,  well idid both and restarted the computer since12:58
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navaroneMabus> try System/Prefer/Sound and make sure server is set to start and that proper device is selected12:58
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Seveasfletch33, sudo nxserver --status12:58
Seveasfletch33, sudo netstat -tlno12:58
Seveasput the output of these commands on the pastebin12:59
Seveasfletch33, sudo netstat -tlnp12:59
fletch33Seveas,  ok i will try that and let u know what happens12:59
Mabus06lspci recognizes my sound card but it is providing no output, can anyone offer some advice?12:59
Mabus06i have also set my default sound card to be the pci one I want to use under system, preferences, sound01:04
Mabus06but again, no output01:04
Mabus06can anyone help?01:04
ghostpsalmtrappist:  DO you know of a minimal .config that you could download and then menuconfig it to add in only the ones I want?01:04
lightbrightSeveas: hello :)01:04
fletch33Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/3078101:04
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Mabus06?01:04
lightbrightwhen I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas anyone?01:04
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DShepherdhey01:04
lightbrightDShepherd: hey hey!  you still seeking to get rid off that message about clock at bootime?01:04
DShepherdlightbright: right on! can you help01:04
lightbrightDShepherd: indeed I can!  Seveas gave me a command that removes it. want it?01:04
fletch33Seveas,  am i still on i havent seen any new posts01:04
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DShepherdlightbright: removes it? permanently?01:04
DShepherdlightbright: do you mean disable it?01:04
lightbrightDShepherd: removes it from appearing at bootime, want it or not?01:04
lightbrightok seems he doesnt want it, ok01:04
lightbrightbrb01:04
DShepherdlightbright: :-D01:04
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DShepherdlightbright: can I borrow it please..01:04
DShepherd?01:04
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phillijwwaka waka01:04
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lightbrightDShepherd: too late :)01:04
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lightbrightDShepherd: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove01:04
trappistghostpsalm: no01:04
DShepherdlightbright: interesting.. care to break down that line for me01:04
lightbrightDShepherd: when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas what causes this?01:04
hoopdrhi :) how far away is the next release?01:04
hoopdron past experience01:04
DShepherdlightbright: none at all01:04
lightbrightDShepherd: no I dont!   I just typed it and now I dont see that annoyoing message anymore!  if you want it broken down, yu would have to ask Seveas01:04
DShepherdlightbright: when has this been happening01:04
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DShepherdlightbright: ok kool01:04
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!alindeman:*! Regional server split; we're looking into it01:04
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hoopdri was wondering to get badger for a friend now or wait till the next one01:08
lightbrightwhats the difference between sudo nautilus and gksudu nautilus ?01:08
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DShepherdgksudo is guo01:08
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DShepherdgui*01:10
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zovirlI installed dvd::rip and used it last week.  Today when I start it up all the fonts are squished together01:11
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DShepherdlightbright: really i dont know01:11
lightbrightDShepherd: what do you know? :P01:11
DShepherdlightbright: my name01:11
lightbrightDShepherd: what is your name?01:11
DShepherdlightbright: i think01:11
lightbrightDavid?01:11
DShepherdlightbright: not. lightbright :P01:11
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lightbrightSeveas: hello :)01:11
lightbrightSeveas: when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas?01:11
hoopdractually ignore that question. upgrading it is easily instructed01:11
zovirlany ideas why?01:11
zovirlI don't recall changing anything...01:11
lightbrightzovirl: ;)01:11
lightbrightnice word: squished ;)01:11
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robert__DShepherd: update-rc.d simply removes the script that syncs the clock at boot01:11
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Mabus06uh sorry if anyoen answered earlier01:15
Mabus06but I lagged out01:15
Mabus06lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?01:15
mrkojeI just ran Breezy live... where are my windows files at?01:15
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DShepherdrobert__: oh ok, why does it take so long anyways? do you know?01:15
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lightbrightDShepherd: Darren? :)01:18
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DShepherdlightbright: :)01:18
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m_akyshello, how can I add parameters to a module on boot?01:18
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lightbrightm_akys: yes01:18
Seveasyike01:18
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Seveasfreenode probs01:18
robert__DShepherd: no, but i expect it is a network problem01:18
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m_akysMay I edit the file /etc/modutils/xxx?01:18
lightbrightm_akys: Press 'e' to edit the commands before booting01:18
GlobeCodersearcher`01:18
GlobeCodermeh01:18
AyameHey, having an issue with a duplicate block on my hard drive. I know fsck will repair it, but I can't run fsck. Can anyone help?01:18
GlobeCoderSeveas, its installing now.01:18
robert__DShepherd: but if you add a & at the end of the line /etc/init.d/ntpdate it might not take so long01:18
DShepherdrobert__: how so..01:18
robert__DShepherd: if you do sudo gedit /etc/init.d/ntpdate01:18
m_akysI want to pass the parameter ac97_quirk=2 to hte module snd-intel8x001:18
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lightbrightwhats the best and easiest way to install Java on 5.10?01:18
m_akysbut if it works good i want to make it persistence01:18
robert__find the line that starts /usr/sbin/ntpdate and add a & at the end01:18
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robert__this is purely hypothesis01:18
Mabus06why is this server being so laggy?01:18
robert__i haven't tried this mind01:18
cevizoglu!java01:18
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:18
lightbright!javadebs01:18
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/01:18
m_akysI'll try pressing 'e' at boot to see if the parameter solve my problem01:18
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lightbrightcevizoglu: which one do I download from http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/?01:18
lightbrightm_akys: that will enable you to add paramaters to kernel at bootime01:18
Mabus06lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?01:18
AyameDoes ubuntu have a preset root password? I need it to repair my system, outside of the GUI. Otherwise I can't run fsck01:18
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m_akysthanks lightbright01:18
Seveasmrkoje, on your drive perhaps :)01:18
cevizoglulightbright: there are different versions of java, you should pick the one that suits you01:18
SeveasAyame, boot into recue mode - it does not need a password01:18
cevizogluhttp://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp is the most common, I think01:19
AyameK, rescue mode, I've seen recovery mode in GRUB but not rescue. Do I need the Live CD for that?01:19
cevizogluversion 1.5.0 = version 5.0.0. btw01:19
cevizogluit's marketing from sun01:19
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SeveasAyame, recue, recovery -- it's all the same :)01:19
lightbrightcevizoglu: I found a command from that website you gave me: sudo apt-get install j2re1.401:19
lightbrightcevizoglu: thats from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:19
AyameOkay, we'll I've done that and it just came to the same end. Enter Password or Control +D. Maybe I've gone wrong somewhere?01:19
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cevizoglulightbright: if you like the blackdown version, that'll suit you then01:19
lightbrightAyame: does recovery mean the same as rescue?01:19
lightbrightcevizoglu: i just need java for Limewire01:19
AyameAccording to Seveas, it is.01:19
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lightbrightcevizoglu: how would I know what version Java is best?  Isnt Java all the same?01:19
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lightbrightSeveas:  When I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas anyone?01:19
cevizoglulightbright: there are sun's versions, and there are the open source versions01:19
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Mabus06lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?01:19
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lightbrightcevizoglu: in YOUR opinion,. whats best for limewire? :)  sorry Im confused01:19
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sethkMabus06, lspci doesn't exactly recognize things01:19
Mabus06lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?01:19
geargolemhello How do I upgrade Java from 1.4 to 1.501:19
cevizoglulightbright: I don't know, I don't run limewire01:19
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Seveasgrmfl - freenode is b0rking01:19
lightbrightam I on Seveas's ignore? :P01:19
sethkMabus06, it just retrieves info from the card01:19
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Mabus06sethk, well it shows up there01:20
lightbrightSeveas: can you not see me anymore?01:20
Seveaslightbright, no, i'm having problems with my connection01:20
Mabus06sethk, any advice?01:20
fletch33Seveas, u stilll there i lost my connection01:20
cevizoglulightbright: it will probably work01:20
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lightbrightSeveas: ah im glad you see me :)01:20
Mabus06everyone did, fletch3301:20
Seveasfletch33, so did I01:20
PinToi still cant make xconfig01:20
sethkMabus06, what I meant is that showing up there doesn't mean that the kernel knows it01:20
Seveasanyway, I'm going to bed01:20
fletch33Seveas, did u get my pastebin01:20
Mabus06you broke the internet, fletch33... happy? :D01:20
lightbrightcevizoglu: im following the command from the webiste you gave me01:20
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fletch33Mabus06,  damn agagin01:20
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lightbrightcevizoglu: sudo aptitude install j2re1.401:20
sethkMabus06, when you bring up a sound mixer does it show the right sound hardware?01:20
fletch33Mabus06,  i have to stop doing that01:20
Mabus06sethk, sound mixer?01:20
cevizoglulightbright: yes, you said that01:20
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lightbrightSeveas: dont look under the bed, there are monsters there :)01:21
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lightbrightSeveas: sweet dreams, night :)01:21
AyameWell, the rescue mode lead has given me somewhere to start, I'm reading the documentation now. thanks!01:21
PinToi need libincurses5.dev ?01:21
sethkMabus06, do you have a little speaker symbol on your gnome bar?01:21
fletch33Seveas, did u get my paste bin?01:21
sethkMabus06, on the right?01:21
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cevizoglulightbright: I think that's the version I use, I'm not a java buff01:21
Mabus06yes sethk01:21
lightbrightcevizoglu: did I say that before? hmm, sory :P01:21
sethkMabus06, right click it, and do open volume control, that brings up the mixer01:21
Mabus06sethk, and it's not muted (why does everyone say that? :D)01:21
lightbrightsethk: hello my young friend :)01:21
lightbrightMabus06: is it plugged into the wall? :)01:21
sethkMabus06, everyone says that because occasionally it is muted.  :)01:22
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Mabus06sethk, nope it's showing my onboard still01:22
geargolemwhat do I use my info on for, 'fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin'   and get it to work without 'error, missing path'?01:22
lightbrightpapabear: hello, where is mommabear today?01:22
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PinTocould n e 1 help me out here plz01:22
sethkMabus06, hmm.01:22
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Mabus06lightbright, yes, the speakers are on, turned on, system volume is one and all that stuff01:22
sethkMabus06, well, as long as the volume control thing shows the onboard, that's what is going to be used (or tried, anyway)01:22
PinToi cant make xconfig ....i've done xhost01:22
Mabus06it's nothing blatantly retarded01:22
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Mabus06sethk, I want to use my PCI not the onboard01:23
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PinTo=and i have done make xconfig in cd linux-2.6.14 still nofin01:23
sethkMabus06, yes, I understand, what I meant is that it isn't happening01:23
PinToit tried but it didnt work01:23
WengIf I want to run a console command at every boot, but before login, where do I put it?01:23
Mabus06sethk, so where should I start to fix it?01:23
sethkPinTo, you can install ncurses and do make menuconfig, but xconfig should be working01:24
lightbrightMabus06: ok01:24
sethkMabus06, can you turn the onboard off in the BIOS?01:24
lightbrightMabus06: and have yoy installed all multimedia files?01:24
Mabus06sethk, yes I could do that01:24
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Mabus06sethk, it is set to "auto" right now01:24
Mabus06lightbright, what multimedia files?01:24
sethkMabus06, try turning it off, see if the kernel finds the other sound hardware01:24
PinTosethk it aint workin i dont even have n e thing in synaptic01:24
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cevizogluI have a brand new installed system and I'm trying to reinstall 982 .deb's which were previously in /var/cache/apt/archives... how would I do that from hard disk?  would I add the path to my sources.list?01:25
sethkPinTo, for ncurses, you mean?01:25
fletch33Seveas,  u still here01:25
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lightbrightMabus06: type this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine01:25
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PinToyeah01:25
fletch33Seveas,  u were my only hope :)01:25
Mabus06lightbright, nothing was installed by that command, so I assume I have it all01:25
sethkPinTo, when I search for ncurses I get about 20 lines01:25
lightbrightMabus06: does sound work when you chose it from System/preferences/Sound ?01:25
sethkPinTo, you don't?01:25
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PinTono i dont have ncurses in synaptic01:26
lightbrightMabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound01:26
sethkPinTo, your repositories must not be set up correctly01:26
Mabus06lightbright, sound work? what do you mean? It is listed under the available devices, and I alraedy set it to my PCI card01:26
lightbrightMabus06:  and then Sound Events01:26
geargolemwhat do I use my info on for, 'fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin'   and get it to work without 'error, missing path'?01:26
sethkPinTo, do settings/repositories.  how many repositories do you list?01:26
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lightbrightMabus06:  just follow what I say for now01:26
lightbrightMabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose Sound Events01:27
PinTosethk i'm in windows at the mo01:27
lightbrightMabus06:  you there yet?01:27
sethkPinTo, you should have seven.01:27
Mabus06lightbright, sound events I'm at01:27
PinTocould u give me a quick walkthrough01:27
Mabus06lightbright, but none of them play when I click play01:27
navaronelightbright> he may be off to looka  t athread I sent him about the problem01:27
PinTojust a brief 101:27
lightbrightMabus06: then click on any wav file and chose PLAY!  do you hear anything?01:27
PinToplz01:27
lightbrightnavarone: ok01:27
sethkPinTo, cd 5.10 binary, 5.10 update source, 5.10 updates binary, 5.10 "breezy badger" source, 5.10 "breezy badger" binary, 5.10 security source, and 5.10 security binary01:27
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navaronemabus> you get pm?01:28
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lightbrightjust trying to help :)01:28
sethkPinTo, if you don't have all of them, use the add repository button until you do01:28
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Mabus06lightbright, no it does not play01:28
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PinToright thnx01:28
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Mabus06navarone, yes, checking what you said too.... multitasking01:28
varsendaggerhey how can you find out what brand you cd rom is?01:28
CArenas2can someone help me with a package upgrade problem?01:28
sethkPinTo, sometimes you have to add the source ones slightly indirectly01:28
lightbrightMabus06: do you have enabled Enable sound Server as startup?01:28
PinTook01:28
sethkPinTo,  for example, if your menu shows 5.10 updates binary.  The way you add source is....01:28
lightbrightMabus06:  under General, does it show a sound card?01:29
sethkPinTo, you click on 5.10 updates binary, click on edit, change it to source, then click on add, and add updates binary01:29
lightbrightMabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose General! Under Default Sound Card, what does it say?01:29
sethkPinTo, because you won't find any of the "source" varieties on the add menu01:29
sethkPinTo, that's not obvious, you would think they would be on the add menu01:29
PinTook01:30
Mabus06lightbright, it used to say my intel onboard, but I changed it to my PCI before coming here for help01:30
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PinToi'll check it out01:30
lightbrightnavarone: may I ask you something about Terminal?01:30
lightbrightMabus06:  click on right drop down menu!  what does it offer you?01:30
sethkPinTo, hopefully that's not too confusing; it's harder to explain than to actually do01:31
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Mabus06lightbright, my pci and my onboard... as I said I already switched it to my pci (what I want to use but won't let me)01:31
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kafffedriver to emu 0404 sound card does it exsist??01:31
lightbrightMabus06: try the other one then01:32
pistolerosomeone can tell me what is the command in the keyboard to leave the X mode?01:32
fletch33anyone help with the server for freenx when i type "/usr/NX/bin/nxserver -start"  terminal syay no such file or directory. ireally need this to work and my client is fine01:32
tcklightbright, ctrl+alt+F1-F601:33
Mabus06lightbright, that's what it was at by default... what does that solve? that's my onboard audio, which worked before but I want my sound card to work01:33
lightbrightpistolero: ctrl+alt+F201:33
pistolerolightbright,01:33
pistoleronao01:33
pistolerono01:33
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lightbrightMabus06:  so you had sound before then?01:33
Mabus06lightbright, yes I did, with the onboard01:33
tckoh i meant to say pistolero hehe01:33
lightbrightMabus06: why fix something that is not broken :)01:34
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lightbrighttck: hehe ;)01:34
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lightbrightHobbsee: hello again01:34
sethkMabus06, Shutting off the onboard sound could help.  I've seen it work.  It  might convince the kernel to configure the modules it needs for the pci one01:34
Hobbseehi lightbright01:34
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fletch33my freenx client asks for a password to connect but i never set 1 up on the server01:35
slideDoes the server install include gnome? If not, is it better to install server and then gnome, or the normal install and then whatever services i need?01:35
mcadorypistoler: in x you have to press ctrl and alt and F*.  once at a terminal just alt and F*.01:35
lightbrightMabus06: did you go into your BIOS and disable onbaord sound first?01:35
Mabus06nope01:35
Mabus06should I?01:35
Mabus06it's set to "auto"01:35
cevizogluhow do I add a location on my hard disk to sources.list?01:35
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sethkMabus06, we know, we want it set to "off"01:36
Mabus06okay well.... going to go disable onboard sound then01:36
lightbrightsethk: yes good point indeed!  the onbaord is still activated and then ubuntu wants to use that only, but he chose something else, hence, no sound01:36
cevizogluwas sources.list designed to handle a configuration like that?01:36
lightbrightMabus06:  you did disable the onboard sound in your BIOS didnt you? :)01:36
cevizoglunm, I found it01:36
sethklightbright, not always, but when they use the same IRQ that tends to happen, I've noticed.01:36
GorillaFromBeyonhello everyone01:36
lightbrightsethk: yeah01:36
BadMackTuckYO GORILLA01:36
fletch33how do i find or setup my username or password on my freenx server01:37
BadMackTuckdamn caps01:37
tarheelcoxncevizoglu: what's the line you added?01:37
lightbrightGorillaFromBeyon: hello King Kong01:37
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cevizoglutarheelcoxn: hold on..01:38
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GorillaFromBeyonmaybe some of you can help me, I managed to install my ubuntu 5.10 on an ancient machine with faulty cdplayer, using the "server" option and after a few attempts I actually completed the process. Is there a sort of automatic way now to "switch" to a full installation from the console ? (I hope the question is not extremely dumb and please forgive my english)01:39
gdganiwhere can i get more recent kernel packages for ubuntu ?01:39
lightbrightgdgani: use aptitude01:39
cevizoglutarheelcoxn: file:/home/jason/debian stable main contrib non-free01:40
Mabus06lightbright, sethk.... disabled01:40
sethkGorillaFromBeyon, if you don't want a server, then installing a server is not a good thing to do01:40
Mabus06sound still doesn't work01:40
tarheelcoxnGorillaFromBeyon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:40
sethkGorillaFromBeyon, do expert and install a minimal system, then install more01:40
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gdganilightbright...i need kernel verstion at least 2.6.1301:40
sethkMabus06, it was worth a try, anyway.01:40
GorillaFromBeyoni used the server option because it was indicated as the "minimal installation"01:40
sethkMabus06, check the mixer again, if you haven't (yet)01:40
lightbrightgdgani: sudo aptitude install linux-68601:40
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lightbrightgdgani: why?01:40
Mabus06sethk, what mixer?01:40
rokaholicdoes apt have something like portage's emerge --inject/ packages.provided file?01:40
gdganinotebook problems01:40
sethkMabus06, you call it the volume control I think01:40
gdganiturion chip with ati xpress200 chipset..01:41
gdganimy system clock ist 2 times faster01:41
lightbrightMabus06:  go back into Sound and chose your right card now01:41
rokaholici installed a package from source and i want apt-get to view it as a viable dependency01:41
sethkkmix is the one I prefer, but there is also xmix, etc.01:41
lightbrightMabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose General! Under Default Sound Card, what does it say now?01:41
tarheelcoxnsethk: I was under the impression that the "server" install was just the normal install without the "ubuntu-desktop" set of packages01:41
gdganionly newer kernels fixes the proble without needing to disabled apic01:41
Mabus06already did that lightbright01:41
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Mabus06lightbright, it was blank by default but I changed it back to the pci card01:41
lightbrightMabus06:  enable sound server at startup?01:41
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lightbrightMabus06:  ok chose also enable sound server at startup , and try a reboot01:42
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Mabus06lightbright, it was already set to checked01:42
GlobeCoderSeveas, its about 80% done01:42
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lightbrightMabus06: what card is it?01:42
nickrudrokaholic, look at equivs, that should suit your purposes01:42
lightbrightMabus06:  is the card properly seated in the system unit?01:42
Mabus06 C-Media Electronics Inc CM873801:43
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sethkMabus06, we've done all the easy things, now you have a real problem to deal with01:43
Mabus06i believe so, lightbright, as it shows up in lspci01:43
lightbrightMabus06:  is the speakers in the right plug. I know you said yes before, but doulbe check :P01:43
DShepherdlightbright: sudo apt-get install linux-686 <-- does this depend on your processor?01:43
sethkMabus06, you might try a modprobe01:43
Mabus06lightbright, the green one, yeah01:43
sethkMabus06, remember, showing up in lspci means NOTHING01:43
rokaholicnickrud:  where is that?01:43
sethkMabus06, I explained that to you.01:43
tarheelcoxnsethk: am I wrong? what's the difference between the normal install and the server install if not the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?01:43
admrldoes anyone use the ubuntu plf repos01:43
sethkMabus06, it just means the card is there.  :)01:43
Mabus06sethk, well it means it's plugged in at least?01:43
Mabus06sethk, that was the question01:44
nickrudrokaholic, it's a package, apt-cache show equivs will give you the basics01:44
admrli was using them for the win32 codecs01:44
sethkMabus06, well, at least part way.  I know, I was joking.  :)01:44
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rokaholicnickrud: thanks01:44
GorillaFromBeyonso I could go to "not installed packages" on aptitude and install them, is it that simple ?01:44
admrlbut then i saw the enemy territory does anyone know if thats included in the ubuntu plf repos yet01:44
sethktarheelcoxn, there is also stuff installed for the server that is skipped for the desktop01:44
lightbrightMabus06: have you every heard sound at all with that card before on other OS's?01:44
Mabus06so what about modprobe, sethk ?01:44
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: server option was fine, what processor and how much RAM do you have?01:44
Mabus06lightbright, yes, I even had it working with ubuntu on my last install01:45
sethktarheelcoxn, but what I meant is that you don't have the correct foundation and you open yourself up to any glitches in the package manager.  There may not be any, but there are almost always glitches everywhere01:45
nickrudrokaholic, but, the better choice might be to turn the source into a package01:45
GorillaFromBeyonthat is an AMD K6 and i have 64 megs of ram01:45
lightbrightMabus06:  so its worked before on ubuntu and all of a sudden it stopped working?01:45
DShepherdlightbright: sudo apt-get install linux-686 <-- does this depend on your processor?01:45
lightbrightDShepherd: what processor do you have?01:45
sethkMabus06, see if doing modprobe makes the kernel install any additional modules.  It's unlikely, but you should try it before moving on to more extreme measures01:45
Mabus06lightbright, well, it's spent time in another comp, and this comp has reinstalled ubuntu a few times01:45
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bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: hm, gnome will be a bit heavy for that01:45
GorillaFromBeyoni know01:45
DShepherdlightbright: avoiding my question are you?01:45
sethkDShepherd, 686 is for 686 processors (duh)01:45
Mabus06sethk, what do I do for a modprobe? :S01:45
DShepherdsethk: duh DShepherd01:46
sethkMabus06, just try a modeprobe *01:46
lightbrightMabus06:  had it ever worked under Ubuntu before is what I was wondering01:46
sethkDShepherd, :)01:46
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: i'd give xubuntu-desktop a go  - "aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"01:46
lightbrightDShepherd: I cant help a man who knows it all :)01:46
Mabus06FATAL: Module 9_4.py~ not found.01:46
sethkDShepherd, actually, 686 or higher, to be more exact01:46
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GorillaFromBeyontrying that now01:46
lightbrightbimberi:  hello my dear friend :)01:46
DShepherdlightbright: that's why you are helping me01:46
CArenas2can someone help me with linux-image upgrade problem using apt-get?01:46
lightbrightDShepherd: yes out of mercy and pity :)01:46
sethkMabus06, that's odd.  Something is odd with your install01:46
bimberilightbright: hi there, well how are you? :)01:46
DShepherdlightbright: :D01:47
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DShepherd:-D01:47
lightbrightDShepherd: but I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)01:47
GorillaFromBeyonone thing though, during the installation it didnt ask me for the root password01:47
lightbrightbimberi:  im terrific :)01:47
GorillaFromBeyonwhy is that ? is there a default one ?01:47
Mabus06!rootsudo01:47
ubotuwell, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:47
B_166-ER-Xhow can i know the model of a soundcard on ubuntu ?01:47
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: no, it's disabled, see the link ^^^^^01:47
GorillaFromBeyongoing there01:47
GorillaFromBeyonthanks01:47
lightbrightB_166-ER-X: open your system unit01:47
Mabus06bimberi, well... not DISabled01:48
DShepherdhow can I find out what processor I have.. I know is AMD. i think it is k701:48
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HansZwollecat /proc/cpu01:48
HansZwolleor cat /proc/cpuinfo01:48
nickrudDShepherd, try cat /proc/cpuinfo01:48
B_166-ER-Xlightbright ??01:48
GorillaFromBeyonok sorry i should have checked before01:48
ZedughDSheperd, what OS are you running on rite now?01:48
DShepherdnow.. windows. but I am ubunut minded..01:48
bimberiMabus06: root is there, you just can't log into it -> disabled no?01:48
DShepherdubuntu*01:48
lightbrightMabus06: all padentics01:48
lightbrightDShepherd: open your system unit :)01:48
Mabus06bimberi, yes you can01:49
Mabus06lightbright, all padentics?01:49
lightbrightB_166-ER-X: open your system unit and look at the side of it and it will have brand name etc01:49
admrlcan anyone help me with the ubuntu plf repositorys..?01:49
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navaronemabus> try  "sudo modprobe emuk10k1"  and see what errors01:49
lightbrightMabus06:  yes indeed for bimberi is correct :)01:49
bimberiMabus06: alright, you can sudo into a root login shell - pedantics indeed :)01:49
lightbrightMabus06: root is indeed "disabled" :)01:49
GorillaFromBeyonok im installing xubuntu-desktop01:49
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lightbrightbimberi:  indeed :)01:50
Mabus06lightbright, I'm telling you, it's not disabled. I have a root password.01:50
akonkwaHi everyone01:50
lightbrightMabus06: I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)01:50
bimberiMabus06: disabled initially then (sheesh!)01:50
Mabus06lightbright... maybe if you're doing the windows-style basic ubuntu installation01:50
ZedughDShepherd, try Start->Accessories->SystemTools->SystemInfo (something like that) or Start->ControlPanel->System01:50
GorillaFromBeyonok it's installed (xubuntu-desktop)01:50
lightbrightMabus06: Truth is never dependent upon the consensus of opinion :)01:50
HansZwolleWindows-key + Break (pause) :P01:51
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Mabus06lightbright, under expert install it isn't disabled01:51
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: wow! do you have the ubuntu archive server on your LAN? :)01:51
lightbrightMabus06: As I said, I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)  you have 2 choices in life, always be "right" or be happy :)01:52
akonkwaMabus06: you talking about the root account that's installed when doing the expert install?01:52
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Livorehi01:52
felipeHello, does anyone here uses FreeNX or No MachineNX?01:52
GorillaFromBeyonbimberi: no i am connected to the internet01:52
Mabus06akonkwa, yes01:52
Livorethere is a deb of kernel 2.6.14?01:52
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akonkwaMabus06 : I had a problem with that, and I couldn't use sudo01:53
GorillaFromBeyonterrific ubuntu found my wireless card and asked me for my access point ssid and encryption and it actually worked and it's the first time ever on that pc with that card (with any other linux distro)01:53
akonkwaMabus06: it's such a drag01:53
Mabus06akonkwa, I can still use sudo on my other accounts01:53
lightbrightMabus06: you can add add rw init=/bin/bash to the end of kernel to boot with root!  yet thats now what bimberi  and I were saying!  we used the word 'disable' as its a word used to describe the situation01:53
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Mabus06akonkwa, make sure you edited the visudo thing01:53
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lightbrightMabus06: dont confuse yourself :)01:53
Mabus06well regardless, anyone can help getting my audio card working? :D01:54
LivoreI need to use a conexant access runner ADSL modem01:54
akonkwaMabus06: Yeah , i didn't really know what I was doing, so someone in this chan had to walk mu through it, now i got rid of my root account01:54
Livorebut it is supported in kernel 2.6.1401:54
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lightbrightMabus06:  we know you can boot your system up to a passwordless root shell.  Yet the word "disabled" to describe that Ubuntu doesnt automatically have root by defaul, imho is accurate as bimberi described it :)01:54
B_166-ER-Xis there a good bit torrent client NOT in java ? -or slowing my pc by 60%-01:54
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janopotter irc.cl01:55
sethkMabus06, do you still have access to the ubuntu install that works with this sound hardware?01:55
sethkMabus06, I'm thinking you could compare the kernel config and loaded modules01:55
lightbrightMabus06: well you know it all, you shouldnt need help with the sound card ;)01:55
Livorecan someone help me?01:55
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lightbrightMabus06:  only jk :)01:55
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lightbright:)01:55
sethkBRB, have to run a quick errand01:55
wickedpuppyB_166-ER-X, agree with ya there .... azureus kick-ass but it eats up my sys resoruces01:55
sethmahoneyAnyone in here by chance know of any good sites on programming in Python for X?01:55
fletch33i really need to find what my username amd password are for my freenx server because my client keeps asking for it. i dont understand where to get this info. please help01:55
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Mabus06Well I don't think surviving through an expert install without my brain exploding constitutes knowing everything.01:56
B_166-ER-Xi have Tornado... but it SO slows my pc..01:56
AMDXPyeah azureus does01:56
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d03boyis there a command to see what version of ubuntu i'm running?01:56
lightbrightMabus06:  heeh ;)01:56
lightbrightMabus06:  im sure there is a simple explantion fgor your sound card01:56
BadMackTuckazureus is a beast on every os, but it does a good job01:56
BadMackTuckBYE01:57
navaronemabus> I did modprobe on myself and no output or errors...dunno if that is correct or not...lol01:57
Mabus06lightbright, fantastic.. if only someone could give it to me...01:57
B_166-ER-Xis there...some other choices then Tornado or azureus ?01:57
nickrudd03boy, lsb_release -a01:57
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lightbrightMabus06: yeah and I wish someone would give me the answer to Quantum Mechanics too :)01:57
d03boyhoary 5.04... am I up to date? :P01:57
Zedughd03boy, in a term, type 'cat /etc/lsb-release'01:57
Mabus06lightbright, easy.... a, b, d, a, c, b, a, d01:57
d03boyor is breezy new?01:57
wickedpuppyd03boy, no .. there is a newer version01:58
lightbrightMabus06: and why perpetual motion is valid01:58
wickedpuppyyup ... breezy is 5.1001:58
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nickrudd03boy, you could be, on hoary :)01:58
lightbrightMabus06: the day you can explain perpetual motion to me, is the day I will invest 48 hours into finding a solution for you :)01:58
d03boydoes that mean I should update my sources.list or what?01:58
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fletch33ok i am going to end my life because of freenx :). it is not free it iwll cost you your sanity01:58
akonkwaCould anyone help to install Limewire? I'm supposed to be able to add extra repositories so that I can install the JRE , but I don't know how to do this01:59
nickrudd03boy, you might want to, if you need newer software.01:59
fletch33akonkwa, use automatix01:59
wickedpuppyd03boy, you wish to update to latest version ?01:59
nickrud!tell d03boy about breezy01:59
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lightbrightakonkwa: im installing Limewire as we speak01:59
fletch33akonkwa, makes it easy01:59
wickedpuppyfletch33, do not recommend automatix pls01:59
bimberiubotu tell akonkwa about limewire01:59
fletch33wickedpuppy, ok but why01:59
d03boywickedpuppy, I'm not sure. Is it like Debian where the latest is unstable?01:59
wickedpuppyits been known to install things without knowing anything01:59
Red-Soxis there a Nintendo 64 emulator?02:00
fletch33wickedpuppy, k sorry02:00
wickedpuppyd03boy, debian unstable is stable ... LOL02:00
lightbrightakonkwa: 1st step: sudo aptitude install j2re1.402:00
wickedpuppyfletch33, one guy used automatix and got 300 mb of software ... lol02:00
kevogod_It's hard to play Nintendo 64 ROMs without a controller.02:00
d03boywickedpuppy, that doesnt make a lot of sense, but OK! :D02:00
fletch33wickedpuppy, gotcha02:00
akonkwalightbright: Ok I'll do that02:00
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CArenas2i cannot upgrade linux-image package02:00
nickrudwickedpuppy, that is so true: 3 years, no reinstall with unstable, and a couple with ubuntu02:00
fletch33wickedpuppy, could u possibly helpme with my freenx02:01
lightbrightakonkwa: im installing Limewire as we speak!  want to follow my steps with me?02:01
akonkwalightbright: done02:01
dlfgin a gnome session using gnome terminal wheres the SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK get parsed from .. i don't see them in .bashrc .bashprofile or /etc/profile ?02:01
fletch33wickedpuppy, i am going nutz02:01
wickedpuppyfletch33, never experienced with it before :P sorry02:01
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lightbrightakonkwa: done?  wow how fast is your connection :P  im still downloading Java on my modem :P02:01
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CArenas2i get a dpkg error re pre/post-removal scripts not running ("Permission denied")02:01
Mabus06lightbright, should I reinstall ubuntu maybe? my home directory is it's own partition anyway02:02
lightbrightCArenas2: use sudo?02:02
CArenas2can someone PLEASE point me in the right direction02:02
akonkwalightbright: it's an average connection, i use cable02:02
Red-Soxis there a window manager that looks like os x?02:02
CArenas2lightbrigt: yes using sudo02:02
fletch33wickedpuppy, no prob. well i have a desktop that i just keep running to constantly download and upload stuff and play movies to my tv from but i need to be able to control it from my laptop what do you recommend02:02
wickedpuppyfletch33, ssh ...02:02
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lightbrightMabus06: I think many prefer to have /home on sepeare partition!  Yet I have mine on same because its easy when I use rsync to make a mirror backup unto my hdb02:02
CArenas2lightbright: i have posted output (http://channels.debian.net/paste/1164)02:02
akonkwalightbright: oops, when I look closely , I see this No candidate version found for j2re1.402:02
Ron_oCArenas2: possibly try running as root: sudo -s  ???02:02
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Ron_othat worked for me setting up my printer.02:03
lightbrightakonkwa: ok Java is done!  now download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it02:03
Ron_osudo didn't cut it for some reason.02:03
fletch33wickedpuppy,  is that like remote desktop from windiws because that is what i used before i switched over and i really need that control back02:03
wickedpuppyCArenas2, sudo dpkg -i file.deb02:03
akonkwalightbright: oops, when I look closely , I see this No candidate version found for j2re1.402:03
lgcHello all from Mexico! Can anyone tell me how to overhaul my eth0 interface?02:03
LoneWolf071how do i specify what services i want to boot up with my computer, in BASH?02:03
wickedpuppyfletch33, ssh would be something like secure telnet ... command line .. you know commands right ? great02:03
lightbrightCArenas2: sorry I cant load any webpages atm cause im downloading using modem something02:03
akonkwalightbright: maybe that's why it went so fast02:04
Ron_oLoneWolf071: administration > services.02:04
lightbrightCArenas2:  can you ask someone else, hoefully someone who knows more than me :)02:04
fletch33wickedpuppy,  no but i get your point thanks02:04
LoneWolf071Ron_o, In bash02:04
lightbrightakonkwa: ok well use the command I am usin02:04
Ron_ooh, I can't help there. :)02:04
DShepherdlightbright: Zedugh I have an AMD Athlon XP 2000+02:04
lightbrightakonkwa: 1st step: sudo aptitude install j2re1.402:04
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LoneWolf071lgc, welcome to ubuntu... what do you want to do with your etrh0?02:04
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DShepherdlightbright: Zedugh sudo aptitude install linux-k7?02:04
CArenas2lightbright: thx, will do  :-)02:05
lightbrightDShepherd: im not qualified to answer that sorry02:05
CArenas2wickedpuppy: same result02:05
lightbrightCArenas2: all the best :)02:05
akonkwalightbright: It says ".... Initializing package states... Done02:05
akonkwaNo candidate version found for j2re1.402:05
akonkwaThe following packages have been kept back:02:05
akonkwamany packages here02:05
lightbrightakonkwa: is that installing ok?02:05
nickrudDShepherd, you want the K7 for AMD, yes02:05
CArenas2first line of output = dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.02:05
lgcLoneWolf071, I can't get anything through it, though the "local network" light from the modem is on02:05
DShepherdlightbright: Zedugh <offtopic>Aida32 on windows is a nice program for getting system info</offtopic>02:06
lightbrightakonkwa:  so it installed ok?02:06
DShepherdnickrud: thanks02:06
GorillaFromBeyoni feel stupid, i can't get to install x11 through aptitude with the console (server installation)02:06
bimberiakonkwa: ensure multiverse repositories are enabled02:06
DShepherdnickrud: are there any obvious improvements?02:06
lightbrightDShepherd: ok thanks02:06
GorillaFromBeyonit tells me "no packages are scheduled to be installed, remove or upgraded" after I chose the install option for the x11 package02:07
nickrudCArenas2, I'd start by looking at the files related to linux-image in /var/lib/dpkg02:07
akonkwabimberi : How do I do that?02:07
lightbrightGorillaFromBeyon: dont feel stupid, we all learn and that doesnt mean we are all stupid02:07
Mabus06!paste02:07
ubotupaste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:07
DShepherdnickrud: and if I install with it will I need to reinstall build-essentials? wil some programs break?02:07
LoneWolf071Ron_o, also, the service menu in GNOME doesn't have nessus on it, how do i add that?02:07
dlfgLoneWolf071: update-rc.d02:07
DShepherdlightbright: no problem02:07
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nickrudDShepherd, I've been told it is awe inspiring, and it's pedestrian :)02:07
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lightbrightakonkwa: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232502:07
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PhoulWhere in ubuntu is htdocs located for apache?02:07
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nickrudDShepherd, no, everything else is just fine; the new kernel slides in under everything else seamlessly02:08
Mabus06This is my aplay -l returns output (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4959) can anyone spot any problems? that's the device I want to use but it won't play02:08
bimberiakonkwa: ok, another approach.  Applications -> Add Applications -> Internet -> More Programs... -> Java Web Start 1.402:08
DShepherdnickrud: ok thanks02:08
mulderis there a gui nat tool for ubuntu?02:08
mulderor qos02:08
nickrudDShepherd, except, you'd need different restricted-modules, and if you compiled a winmodem, you'll need to redo that.02:08
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DShepherdnickrud: yup... I know that....:( *remembers to 2 months ago02:09
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lightbrightbimberi:  is that way the same as doing: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 ?02:09
GorillaFromBeyonit tells me "no packages are scheduled to be installed, remove or upgraded" after I chose the install option for the x11 package02:09
lightbrightbimberi:  or is your way easier and better?02:09
GorillaFromBeyonhow do i "schedule" them to be installed02:09
GorillaFromBeyonso that when i press "g" it actually installs them ?02:09
Ron_olonewolff: I can't help you much on that. Did you try to download BUM?02:09
bimberilightbright: yes, and will enable repositories if required02:10
Ron_osudo apt-get bum02:10
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Ron_obum: boot up manager.02:10
lightbrightbimberi:  ah I should have done it that way then!  im using sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 atm and its 70% done.  shall I let it finish or stop and do it your way you think?02:10
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bimberilightbright: leave it, the results should be identical :)02:11
GorillaFromBeyonok doing it02:11
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lightbrightbimberi:  ok great!  because on my modem its taken ages to get to 70% :P02:11
lgcCan anyone help me with my eth0 link?02:11
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iobosshi.. i have a ati videoboard... i have installed driver from website.. but i see file rm not well02:12
Mabus06lightbright, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/495902:12
Mabus06see anything wrong with that?02:12
GorillaFromBeyoni thought "g" was the option to install them (AND select them) while if i get it right now, i should have used "+" to select them02:12
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Zedughlgc, what's wrong with your eth0 link?02:12
iobossthe stream don't go fast..02:12
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navaroneMabus> my output list device 0 to 302:12
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akonkwabimberi: Ok, I have java ... what is the next step?02:13
pepsi1i would like to find some more bitmapped monospace fonts02:13
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pepsi1how can i go about doing that?02:13
tuxedo_kamenhi everyone02:13
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funkyHatanyone else having trouble with the breezy repos?02:13
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lgcZedugh, I can't get it working (I'm on eth1 now, but it has the bad habit of going down in a while02:13
foxgamerHi all. Every now and then, when I reboot my computer, I get a kernel compile error (fresh install three days ago). Is this something serious does anyone know?02:13
Livoreis there a deb for kernel 2.6.14?02:13
RedRoseis there anyway, client side, to enable color on SSH?02:13
lightbrightDShepherd: Sorry, I'm not qualified to answer that02:14
mulderLivore, in unstable possibly.02:14
RedRoselgc:Eth0 help, right?02:14
bimberiubotu tell akonkwa about limewire02:14
bur[n] erRedRose: ls --color02:14
tuxedo_kameni am not sure if anyone can help me, but... I need to create a script file, which performs a certain set of terminal operations, how can I create one?02:14
lightbrightfunkyHat: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232502:14
RedRoseis there a way to specify it by default?02:15
lightbrightfunkyHat: use those repos02:15
lgcRedRose, right02:15
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RedRoselook in the tabs for my chat invite02:15
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CArenas2nickrud: no such images for new linux-image package02:15
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: create a script02:15
foxgamerAlso, does anyone know of a program that can check the integrity of the hard drive?02:15
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: which package are you installing?02:15
bur[n] erRedRose: alias ls='ls --color'02:15
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, I don't know how... I want to create something like the *.bat files for windows...02:15
funkyHatlightbright, it's all good now02:15
bur[n] erfoxgamer: e2fsk ??02:15
funkyHatlightbright, just had an odd error with the keys02:15
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bur[n] erfoxgamer: otherwise I use "Bart's stuff test" on a windows PE cd ;)02:16
TokenBadfriend installed ubuntu but he has an ati card...and says the video flickers02:16
folkihi all...can anybody help me...i need some good and especially qiuck images viewer...02:16
TokenBadis there a way to fix it?02:16
foxgamerAh yes! I remember that. Thanks bur[n] er02:16
GorillaFromBeyonbimberi, im istalling x11 right now02:16
folkiquick*02:16
bur[n] erfolki: gqview02:16
lightbrightfunkyHat:  awesome :)02:16
navaronefolki> try gthumb02:16
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: k :)02:16
GorillaFromBeyonand upgrading all the rest02:16
RedRosebur[n] er:It gives me an error ... how do i make it accept input?02:16
bur[n] ergqview is faster than gthumb02:16
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: ok open a blank text file02:16
tuxedo_kamenjust did02:16
tuxedo_kamenI write the commands in there02:17
tuxedo_kamenand then what?02:17
Steiltuxedo_kamen: You want to open a text editor then toss  #!/bin/bash at the top, all your commands after, then chmod +x <filename>02:17
folkido u know irfanview under Windows? I would somethink similar if it is possible02:17
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lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: you got a clean empty text file open ready to write text?02:17
nickrudCArenas2, you mean, no post or pre install files under info? (I'm kinda in the dark here: I've been in this dir for broken packages in unstable, but I'm not real knowledgable)02:17
tuxedo_kamenyep, I do02:17
Zedughfoxgamer, do you mean the integrity of a filesystem, or the reliability of the disk hardware? for i/o errors: 'man badblocks'02:17
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horaciogusl02:17
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  relax, 1 step at a time, fair? :)02:17
tuxedo_kamenok02:17
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lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  ok :) now the first line should be:  #!/bin/sh02:17
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foxgamerZedugh, I don't know exactly where the problem lies, but with bur[n] er's suggestion and yours, I may be able to find out.02:18
tuxedo_kamenok02:18
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folkithnaks02:18
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: under that you can write for example: aptitude update  and on next line aptitude upgrade02:18
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folkithanks*02:18
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  etc etc02:18
TokenBadanyone know about how to fix flicker with ati video cards?02:18
PinTon e 1 know where i can repositorys from02:18
RedRoselgc:go you see the private chat tab?02:18
CArenas2nickrud: correct - no pre or post install files for package02:18
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  tell me when you done all that and I will tell you the next step needed, ok?02:18
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, you mean, my comands?02:18
lgcRedRose I am there a while ago.02:19
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RedRosebur[n] er:it's ls -G not ls --color02:19
nickrudCArenas2, then, what about permission's on the dir?02:19
PinTosethk i only 3 repositories02:19
PinTostill cant find what i need02:19
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  Under the first line:  #!/bin/sh   you can write your commands you want!  for me, I have sudo aptitude update02:19
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  yes your commands02:19
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  tell me when you done all that and I will tell you the next step needed02:19
sethkPinTo, did you add the others?02:21
sethkPinTo, you won't see additional stuff without adding02:21
CArenas2nickrud: of /var/lib/dpkg? 075502:21
tuxedo_kamenok, I just did02:21
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akonkwaubotu: when I run "runLime" , i only see the terminal appear for a second, and then it dissapears02:22
ubotuakonkwa: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about02:22
tuxedo_kamenlightbright , what next?02:22
mulderanyone know why my ntfs partition is mounted rw, but is still only read only? i'm using a factory install of breezy02:22
CArenas2nickrud: but apt-get has worked fine all along until these packages02:22
nickrudCArenas2, then, we're rapidly approaching the limits of my knowledge; does any other package have this problem02:22
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: save it02:22
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  name it something easy to remember, no extension02:22
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: save it in your /home/user folder02:23
CArenas2nickrud: yes, 3 -- linux-image, linux-restricted-modules-common, language-selector02:23
tuxedo_kamenok02:23
tuxedo_kamenwhat next?02:23
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: open Terminal02:23
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lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  and Terminal should open in /home/user02:23
tuxedo_kamenok02:24
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lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: type ls -lh to make sure its there02:24
PinTosethk yeah i added security update .and source update02:24
akonkwaI am desperatlet trying to install java02:24
akonkwacan anyone help me?02:24
Livoremulder: debian unstable?02:24
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sethkPinTo, but you said you have 3, and I told you that you need seven02:24
PinTobreezy02:25
sethkakonkwa, are you talking about java in the web browser, or standalone java?02:25
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  do you see the file?02:25
PinToyeah i dont have the other 402:25
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: whats it called?02:25
tuxedo_kamenwait, I take some time as I am working remotely, by using ssh! >_<02:25
lightbrightakonkwa: I told you to do as I am doing02:25
psusiwhen I select the libpt-plugin packages to be upgraded in synaptic, it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop... why on earth would it want to remove ubuntu-desktop ot upgrade the libpt packages?02:25
PinTowhere abouts can i get them sethk?02:25
mulderLivore, yeah02:25
nickrudCArenas2, do you have breezy-backports enabled?02:25
PinToi have no internet connection so i'll have to rip them to CD02:26
lightbrightakonkwa: maybe try to remove and reinstall?02:26
CArenas2nickrud: no02:26
akonkwalightbright: could you repeat the steps?02:26
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: use Terminal02:26
nickrudheh, a last stab, a bad package :)02:26
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akonkwasthk: stand alone java02:26
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kwtm2Hi!  How do use sudo I redirect std output to a file accessible only to root?  Eg: if I say "sudo ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results", it fails because I, a non-root user, don't have permission to write the output of "sudo ls /etc/*" to the file /etc/ls_results; what I want is to execute the command "ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results" as the superuser (root).02:26
sethkPinTo, then, as an alternative you can download the .deb file for ncurses and install it with dpkg02:26
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, I can't, I haven't got ubuntu in this computer ! >_>02:26
PinToi installed ncurses but i need libncureses.devl02:27
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lightbrightakonkwa: try sudo apt-get --purge remove j2re1.402:27
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: What???02:27
PinTomake xconfig just doesnt want to work02:27
psusikwtm2, try enclosing the entire ls xx > foo command in single quotes02:27
nelkael81you nnow an italian server for ubuntu ???02:27
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  come back message me when you are on Ubuntu next time then :P lol02:27
nickrudkwtm2, I've seen someone using sudo ls  ... | sudo tee, or something like that for echoing to a file02:27
akonkwalightbright: ok, done that. what should I do next?02:27
PinTowhen i try make menuconfig i need libncurses.devl02:27
lightbrightakonkwa: try sudo apt-get --purge remove j2re1.4  and then reinstall, worth a try?02:27
akonkwalightbright: ok, done that. what should I do next?02:28
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, ok, next time I'll try being at home! :P02:28
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lightbrightakonkwa: type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.402:28
PinToi suppose i can use either 102:28
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  great :)02:28
kwtm2psusi: Enclosing the command doesn't work, because the computer complains that there is no such command as "ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results".02:28
lightbrightakonkwa: whats it say now?02:28
kwtm2nickrud: Hmm, that idea seems promising.  I'll look into that.02:28
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lightbrightakonkwa: did you try bimberi's way?02:28
nickrud echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules kwtm2 here's an example02:29
akonkwalightbright: it says:ackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:29
akonkwaThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:29
akonkwais only available from another source02:29
akonkwaW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:29
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wickedpuppyakonkwa, pls don't paste here ..02:29
Mabus06can anyone help me with getting my sound card to work please????02:29
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: all you then needed to do was to change it to "x" execute and ru  it by ./filename02:29
PinToalz i need do is build a kernel02:29
akonkwawickedpuppy: sorry02:29
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen:  easy :)  same as bat file02:30
crimsunmirrormax.net does not host ubp any longer02:30
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lightbrightakonkwa: use these repos from here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232502:30
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lightbrightakonkwa:  then update02:30
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GraiderWhomever's in charge of what's included in a default Ubuntu install, add xfe (file manager), it makes things a lot less scary for the Windows convert!02:30
lightbrightMabus06:  use your onboard one :)02:31
kwtm2nickrud:  I'll first try "sudo ls /etc/* | sudo cat >/etc/ls_results" ...02:31
akonkwalightbright: even if I have hoary?02:31
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lightbrightMabus06:  did you change your dip switches on the card?02:31
Mabus06lightbright, but my sound is being super crappy when playing Doom3... I figure if I have my sound card do it it would be better02:31
Mabus06lightbright, dip switches?02:31
lightbrightakonkwa: what?  you said you using breezy02:31
akonkwalightbrihgt: never saisd that02:31
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lightbrightMabus06: so all this effort for quake? :P02:31
akonkwalightbright: I'm using hoary02:31
wickedpuppyGraider, mail to the mailing list or go to #ubuntu-devel02:32
nickrudkwtm2, you can't pipe to sudo, I tried that one myself :)02:32
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Mabus06Doom3, lightbright02:32
lightbrightMabus06:  Quake will sound crappy with the other card too, because of low frame rates02:32
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lightbrightMabus06:  Doom sorry02:32
lightbrightMabus06: what is the name of your sound card?02:32
Mabus06how do I fix that, lightbright ?02:32
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Mabus06[C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6] 02:33
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lightbrightMabus06: get a new fresh fast graphics card and your sound will be smoother too02:33
tuxedo_kamenlightbrith --> bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: Permission denied <-- i get this error02:33
Mabus06lightbright, I'm using onboard video... :(02:33
akonkwalightbright: So what should I do if I'm using Hoary?02:33
lightbrightMabus06:  and try using google and type something like "ubuntu" +CMI8738-MC602:33
lightbrightMabus06:  disable it and install a new one!02:33
lightbrightMabus06:  onboard video cards are not good for Doom etc02:34
psusikwtm2, this works for me: sudo bash -c  'ls > /etc/foo'02:34
lightbrightMabus06:  cheap no frills stuff02:34
slideDoes anyone know how to get adobe photoshop cs2 installed with wine?02:34
kwtm2nickrud: so how does "echo blabla | sudo tee bla bla" work?02:34
lightbrightakonkwa: update to breezy :)02:34
Mabus06lightbright, I already managed to bork my geforce FX 5500 trying to install it on linux. Now it wont work on windows02:34
Mabus06lightbright, but my video works just fine onboard... no lag at all except for sound in game play02:34
lightbrightslide: did you check the wine website to make sure adobe photoshop cs2 works woith Wine?02:34
kwtm2psusi: hmm... good idea.  I just wish we didn't have to use bash (since that will negate any security ... might as well just log in as root to do it).  I'll go with your method, though02:35
wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, paste the script along with the permission on the pastebin02:35
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slidelightbright, nop02:35
wickedpuppyMabus06, i am using the same card ... works like a charm here02:35
psusikwtm2, how does it negate security?02:35
lightbrightslide: maybe check that first02:35
Mabus06wickedpuppy, stop bragging :P02:35
lightbrightwickedpuppy: maybe you can tell him your config02:35
Mabus06no no no you guys are barking down a dead path ;)02:35
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Mabus06the card is finished. done.02:35
Mabus06won't even get recognised by lspci anymore02:35
bimberiakonkwa: download the j2re deb for hoary from here - http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ and install using dpkg02:36
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akonkwabimberi thankx02:36
bimberiakonkwa: np :)02:36
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lgcCan anyone help me with my eth0 interface?02:36
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Mabus06can anybody please help me with my audio? I don't know how to get my PCI card to work02:37
bimberiakonkwa: although you should make sure it works first :)02:37
wickedpuppylgc, what about your eth0 ?02:37
akonkwabimberi :)02:37
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Kerrugh.02:37
tuxedo_kamenwickedpuppy, here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/496002:37
nickrudkwtm2, I was hoping you'd let me slide :) I'm not sure, just seen it used by the guru's when they're here02:37
nature22last night somone sent me the link for the deb package of java. does anyone still have it? I need it again.02:37
Mabus06lightbright, isn't there something I have to do after plugging in the card to get it to work? nobody has really suggested I do anything, I find it suprising that nobody has given me advice on drivers to install or something after putting the card in and booting up02:37
akonkwabimberi: do you know how I can update to breezy? and is it long and complicated?02:37
Kerrboth of the breezy cd's i've tried fail to install.. debootstrap errors of some sort.. ~.~02:38
lightbrightMabus06: ubuntu should pick it up02:38
pixman akonkwa get hold of Easy Ubuntu02:38
lgcwickedpuppy, it can't get the connection through! (I'm on eth1 now).02:38
bur[n] er!UpgradeBreezy02:38
ubotubur[n] er: Not a clue02:38
Ryan15im new to this thing02:38
bur[n] er!BreezyUpgrade02:38
pixmanEasy Ubuntu updaets your sources.list02:38
ubotusomebody said breezyupgrade was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:38
pixmanto breezy02:38
Ryan15how do you get to other chat02:38
Ryan15chats*02:38
bimberiakonkwa: no, see that breezyupgrade link above02:38
ghostpsalmis there a terminal command to burna  folder to a cd?02:38
lightbright!ubotu tell Mabus06 about BreezyUpgrade02:38
bur[n] erRyan15: xchat?   /join #channelname02:38
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ghostpsalm!ubotu tell ghostpsalm about BreezyUpgrade02:39
remyforbes777is there a inetd file for ubuntu02:39
kwtm2psusi: Hmm... I guess I can't think of any reason why it would be worse than sudo.  Instinctively, it seems like a "but you can do anything!" command, but I guess that's what sudo is in the first place.02:39
bur[n] erghostpsalm: /msg ubotu BreezyUpgrade   (no need to say it in the chan)02:39
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tuxedo_kamencan anyone help me fix it, please? :|02:40
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PinToTTFN02:40
wickedpuppylgc, ifconfig ?02:40
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: fix what?02:40
remyforbes777is there an inetd file for ubuntu02:40
ghostpsalmbur[n] er: Cheers, just seeing what it does - ubotu told me /msg anyhow.02:40
Ryan15it says enter channel's number?02:40
lgcwickedpuppy, I got it. What piece of info do you want?02:40
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, it doesn't work, see it here please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/496002:40
wickedpuppylgc, can paste on the pastebin ?02:41
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nature22thanks02:41
lgcwickedpuppy, sorry I'm new to this. Do you want me to paste the output to where?02:42
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: what doesnt work?02:42
tuxedo_kamenmy script, stated there!02:42
wickedpuppylgc, pastebin ... look at tuxedo_kamen line above02:42
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: you need to run it on Ubuntu :P02:42
sethkkwtm2, sudo can be configured to not allow every command.  That's why it is supposedly better.  People rarely bother to configure it that way, unfortunately.02:42
Mabus06lightbright, I already have breezy... :S02:42
tuxedo_kamen-_- that's what I am doing, I am running it by connecting to my house using SSH! :D02:42
remyforbes777is there a inetd file in ubuntu?02:42
KerrI'm getting a base system installation cd with each of the breezy cds i got via shipit. 'the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)' .. at about 33%..02:42
lightbrightMabus06: yeah sorry was meant for someone else :)02:42
Kerrany idea what is going wrong?02:42
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frejhmm dapper gconf seems broken or something.02:43
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frejanyone having problems with gnome/metacity/panel ?02:43
crimsunremyforbes777: /etc/inetd.conf ?02:43
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remyforbes777yeah02:43
prometheushey all. how do I search the list of files using apt-get02:43
crimsunfrej: works fine here.02:43
remyforbes777is there one in ubuntu?02:43
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: whats with line 8? --------------> permissions: 744 >?02:43
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frejcrimsun: how recent update?02:43
remyforbes777i cant freaking find it02:43
Mabus06bur[n] er, you've helped me a few times before, any idea how to get my sound card working? I put it in the PCI slot and booted the com but it won't play sounds02:43
crimsunremyforbes777: yes, I just looked.02:43
remyforbes777well shit02:43
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file?02:43
nickrudprometheus, just what are you trying to find out?02:43
lgcwickedpuppy, I opened the link, but it's something about java.02:43
remyforbes777why cant i find it on my box02:43
themachinehow do I chmod an entire directory?02:43
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, you had asked me for the permissions, I hadn't got other place to write it, obviously that line isn't in the file itself! :P and the name is teste02:44
wickedpuppylgc, yes ... i know .. left links ... make a new post02:44
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crimsunfrej: hmm, about an hour ago?02:44
prometheusnickrud: rather then using aptitude. search the list of available packages to to using command line02:44
frejie, i lost most keybindings (window management) applets defaults are broken too.02:44
crimsunfrej: probably closer to 2 hours.02:44
frej-ie,02:44
bur[n] erMabus06: lsmod |grep snd02:44
remyforbes777im trying to open port 22 for ssh02:44
nickrudprometheus, apt-cache search  might do it; you can use aptitude search also02:45
frejMy mirror was last updated about ~0:4502:45
Zedughthemachine, chmod -R (recursive option)02:45
Kerrwhen i try to isntall breezy, debconf has dependancy problems 'depends on debconf-i18n | debconf-english; however: ... both of the packages aren't installed :-/02:45
prometheusnickrud: so apt-cache search "filename"02:45
lgcwickedpuppy, I can't find such a tab on that page02:45
prometheusor rather package name02:45
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nickrudprometheus, oh, find a file in a package: dpkg -S /path/to/filename02:45
nickrudprometheus, if the package is installed02:45
prometheusnickrud: sorry typing to fast. I mean if I wanted to search for all the irb packages ->  apt-cache search irb02:46
ghostpsalmIf you want to unmount a drive/device - but the terminal says it is busy, what can you do?  No progs currently using it?02:46
nickrudprometheus, yes02:46
remyforbes777any idea where inetd could be at if I cant find it in etc02:46
frejhow, can i figure out if gconf doesn't register default schema values?02:46
prometheusnickrud: great! thanks02:46
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kwtm2ghostpsalm: try "lsof /dev/MyDevice" to see what programs are using it02:46
nickrudprometheus, you can also aptitude search ; you can use all the nice search terms that aptitude provides02:47
bimberiremyforbes777: if you install openssh-server you don't need to open any ports02:47
lgcwickedpuppy, Do you mean "click here to make a fresh posting"?02:47
remyforbes777i installed it and I tried to connect02:47
prometheusnickrud: that isn't from the command line is it? it's the terminal GUI02:47
remyforbes777and i got connection refused, could that be a authentication issue02:47
ghostpsalmkwtm2:  lsof, lsof, bash... but bash is the only terminal - and it doesn't appear to be using it.02:47
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tuxedo_kamen-_-02:47
Kerris there a specific channel for help with installing breezy?02:47
frejHmm, it's when i upgrade an package it seems. The defaults are lost. nautilus has fubared too02:48
tuxedo_kamenlightbright, so, can you help me, please? :|02:48
wickedpuppylgc, yes02:48
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prometheusnickrud: just trying to learn how to do things quick and dirty from an ssh connection when I know a package name roughly ;)02:48
akonkwabimberi: I have download the jre file. what should I do with it?02:48
nickrudprometheus, try aptitude search ~g~sgnome02:48
lgcI'm there. Shall I post the output from ifconfig there?02:48
bimberiremyforbes777: hm, "sudo netstat -plnt" - look for port 2202:48
wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, can you run those commands one by one ? no errors ?02:49
bimberiakonkwa: open terminal, go to directory with the file, "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"02:49
ghostpsalmkwtm2: Now lsof outputs nothing, but Istill cannot umount the device.02:49
remyforbes777bimberi: nope no port 2202:49
prometheusnickrud: great thanks again02:49
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file?02:50
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: are you running Ubuntu now?02:50
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lightbrightakonkwa: install it using apt-get02:50
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tuxedo_kamenno, i am working on it remotely, by connecting to my house using SSH!02:50
bimberiremyforbes777: how about "pgrep sshd" - any output?02:50
lightbrightakonkwa: type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.402:50
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remyforbes777bimberi: no02:50
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file you created?02:50
akonkwabimberi: Ok, i have java installed (I think) What should I do next? (to install limewire)02:50
tuxedo_kamenteste02:51
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frejSo, how does debian packages register gconf schema files?02:51
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: ok type chmod 777 teste02:51
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lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: did you type that yet?02:51
frejkinda newish to debs ;)02:51
bimberiremyforbes777: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start"02:51
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wickedpuppyfrej, what about rpm ?02:51
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lightbrightfrej:  :)02:51
bimberiubotu tell akonkwa about limewire02:51
tuxedo_kamennow I get this error: " bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: No such file or directory02:51
tuxedo_kamen"02:51
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lgcwickedpuppy, What do I do next?02:51
wickedpuppylgc, paste the url here ? so i can see your ifconfig output02:52
Kerrugh02:52
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: what directory are you in NOW? :P hehe02:52
Kerrwtf is up with the install cd :-/02:52
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tuxedo_kamensame on02:52
lightbrightKerr: nothing works great02:52
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tuxedo_kamenand if I type "ls", I don't get any errors02:52
bimberiKerr: error message?02:52
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remyforbes777bimberi: unknown initscript, etc/init.d/ssh not found02:52
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Kerrbase-config depends on console data but it's not going to be installed.02:52
tuxedo_kamenand I see my file in there...02:52
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: type lh -lh and tell me the output02:52
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SgeperWhy isn't there a package for kernel sources of 2.6.12?02:52
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: type ls -lh and tell me the output02:52
Octanei think i have some errors on my /root and /home partitions... what's the best way to fsck fix them?02:53
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nickrudfrej, it's done in the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info02:53
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lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: ok type "sudo chmod 777 teste"02:53
Kerrlastlog my nick, i've had quite a few errors..02:53
tuxedo_kamen-rwxrwxrwx    1 miguel.a 1000           76 Nov 24 01:32 teste02:53
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tritiumSgeper, there is...linux-source-2.6.1202:53
lgcwickedpuppy, you got it. But I booted with eth1 this time over.02:53
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Kerri'm in the installers openssh, using my home pc's irssi.02:53
bimberiremyforbes777: "dpkg -l openssh-server | grep ii" - any output?02:53
wickedpuppylgc, ? eh where is the url ?02:53
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: now type "./teste"02:53
kwtm2ghostpsalm: Not sure what to do next ...02:53
Octaneanyone have an answer to my super duper simple question02:54
tuxedo_kamendoesn't work, he says that the file isn't found! >_<02:54
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: whats it say now?02:54
akonkwabimberi: limewire is running!!!! thanx for all the help02:54
lgcwickedpuppy, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4962, I think.02:54
akonkwalightbright: thanx for helpming me02:54
tuxedo_kamen" bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: No such file or directory02:54
tuxedo_kamen"02:54
lightbrighttuxedo_kamen: try it when you get home :)  have a good day02:54
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tuxedo_kamen-_-02:54
tuxedo_kamenok02:54
themachinechmod keeps telling me that it is a read-only file system. I used the command:        sudo chmod 755 -R /media/"0 GB Disk (hda1)"/Windows02:54
tuxedo_kamenbrb02:54
bimberiakonkwa: great! np :)02:54
lightbrightakonkwa: dont thank me, thank the Person who worketh through me :)02:55
Kerrbimberi: i've never seen a base install with unmet dependancies before, what is going on :-/02:55
wickedpuppylgc, the first one is eth0 i assume ?02:55
akonkwalightbright:???02:55
lgcwickedpuppy, right.02:55
lightbrightakonkwa:  and it was bimberi who helped the most02:55
bimberiKerr: i don't know sorry, not encountered it myself :/02:55
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Zedughremyforbes777, dpkg -S inetd.conf says its not found, but I have package netbase installed, which includes a program update-inetd. man update-inetd says it creates, modifies the inetd.conf file. check if you have netbase installed.02:55
lightbrightakonkwa: where did you download Limewire from anyway>? just curious02:55
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blankyhey guys, how can I make use of samba02:56
bimberiubotu tell akonkwa about limewire02:56
blankyI installed it, now how do i...use it02:56
bimberiubotu tell blanky about samba02:56
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lightbrightbimberi:  heeh ;)02:56
bimberilightbright: :)02:56
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wickedpuppylgc, try ifup eth002:56
holycowhey all02:56
lightbrightubotu tell lightbright about limewire02:56
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GorillaFromBeyonfinally, the whole x11 branch of packages is installed02:57
wickedpuppyblanky, google it or go to #samba02:57
bimberihi holycow!02:57
holycow:)02:57
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lgcwickedpuppy, "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"02:57
holycowi think ubuntu has done a lot for linux beyond the pure debian/technology end of things02:57
akonkwalightbright:http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther02:57
holycowits definately freshened up the culture as well02:58
SoulPropagationwhat's the package name for Motif02:58
wickedpuppylgc, is eth0 connected using dhcp ?02:58
holycowits nice to see friendly linux folks around :)02:58
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lgcwickedpuppy, yes.02:58
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wickedpuppylgc, i am curious ... you got two ethernet connections ?02:58
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lightbrightakonkwa: I cant downbload from there :(  keeps stopping02:58
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lightbrightakonkwa: do you have a server you can let me download Limewire from please?02:59
remyforbes777bimberi : no packages matching openssh-server installed02:59
kwtm2ubotu tell me about limewire02:59
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Zedughremyforbes777, do you have package netbase installed?02:59
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bimberiremyforbes777: sudo aptitude install openssh-server02:59
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chengzenianhow to install 5.1003:00
lightbrightbimberi:  is there something similar to Limewire that is better?03:00
bimberiubotu tell chengzenian about install03:00
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remyforbes777zedugh:yeah03:00
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kwtm2ubotu help03:00
chengzeniani have not cdrom03:00
bimberilightbright: i use gtk-gnutella, better? matter of opinion03:00
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remyforbes777bimberi:ok but i thought i did that03:00
yikeshas anyone successfully used alsa in xmame or kxmame?03:01
lgcwickedpuppy, sometimes I boot wireless. Sometimes I don't. I usually don't have any trouble with eth0, but lately a message  "ipw2200 fatal error", or something like that pops.03:01
remyforbes777bimberi: crap that was on my debian box03:01
lightbrightbimberi:  how can I install gtk-gnutella on breezy pls?03:01
bimberiremyforbes777: i know but it seems that somehow it's no there03:01
nickrudbimberi, it's smaller footprint is definitely not a matter of opinion :)03:01
remyforbes777bimberi: im freaking retarded03:01
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bimberinickrud: :)03:01
mcadoryremyforbes777: sudo apt-get install ssh03:01
lightbrightremyforbes777: you are what you "think" you are03:01
bimberiremyforbes777: let (s)he who hath never made a mistake cast the first stone :)03:01
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lightbrightbimberi:  do I type: sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella ?03:02
wickedpuppylgc, googling that term would have saved you hours of asking time here03:02
bimberilightbright: yep :)03:02
blankyhey guys, can someone please help me on this, I was reading this page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba , and under 'Time to fill in your settings:03:02
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zovirlI'm having problems copying files from a DVD-R to my harddrive.  The copy process keeps hanging.  The HD light comes on solid and I can't even kill -9 the cp process. Is that normal?  Is it a bug or is my HD failing?03:02
bimberilightbright: will appear under Apps -> Internet03:02
lightbrightbimberi:  cool :)03:02
remyforbes777bimberi: installing ssh now03:02
blankyat the bottom it says 'Q: I dont have windows networking section', i dont either, but it doesnt seem to tell what to do03:02
lgcwickedpuppy, I don't get it.03:02
blankycan someone please talk to me in private03:02
wickedpuppylgc, pls do me a favour and google it pls ... someone on debian mailing list already found that problem03:03
SoulPropagationblanky: you need to set up networking on your windows box03:03
lightbrightbimberi:  thanks :)03:03
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bimberilightbright: np :)03:03
blankySoulPropagation, er, what?03:03
lgcwickedpuppy, you mean the ipw2200 issue?03:03
GorillaFromBeyonnow that i have installed x11 what should i do to run xubuntu ?03:03
wickedpuppylgc, google for ipw2200 fatal error03:03
wickedpuppyyes03:03
GorillaFromBeyonlike dunno, xdm, gdm ?03:03
wickedpuppylgc, google for "ipw2200 fatal error" <---03:03
SoulPropagationblanky: how good are you with windows? i.e. should i give you detailed instructions or just "go here, click this, etc"03:03
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themachinechmod keeps telling me read-only file system. Any idea why?03:04
blankyyou know what I'm talking about right? in https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba under time to fill in your settings, at the bottom is says 'waht if I dont have windows networking section, only hostname and domain name, what do I do now?! but it never answers it03:04
SoulPropagationthemachine: are you trying to chmod a CD?03:04
themachineno a hardrive03:04
themachinemy hda1 mount03:04
blankycan I talk in private to someone03:04
blankyplease03:04
SoulPropagationthemachine: mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,rw /03:05
Ophiocusis it ntfs ?03:05
StarKruzranyone here understand inetd?  I'm trying to make talkd work, which says it needs to be run from inetd.  when I installed talkd, it put an entry for itself in inetd.conf, so it looks like it's correct, but when I run ytalk on my machine and try to ytalk with a local user, ytalk just tells me there is no talkd server running.  anyone know what's going on there?03:05
lgcwickedpuppy, thanks. By the way, do you know if there's a nicer GUI app for configuring network interfaces? It seems that the one included with the distro is quite featureless. I think Windows (yuck!) has a better one!03:05
SoulPropagationchange the / to wherever you mounted /dev/hda103:05
themachineyea its ntfs03:05
wickedpuppylgc, System -> Administration - >networking03:05
StarKruzrntfs is supposed to be mountable rw now, I think.03:05
nickrudStarKruzr, you probably need to enable talkd; look at /etc/default, or /usr/share/doc/talkd03:06
blankyguys, I installed kubuntu desktop, and chose to use GDM, but when I had the update, in the beginning where it says 'enabling hotplug' and stuff, it says kubuntu, how can I change that?03:06
StarKruzrnickrud: I think I did that.  there's an "enable" command for update-inetd and I did that before.  lemme look at those though03:06
Ophiocusthemachine, ntfs file systems are read only,.. if you want a dual boot system that can write to windows partitions while booting in linux you need your windows partition to be fat32,.. if you can get your hands on partition magic, that ll do the trick for you03:07
SoulPropagationhow do i install Motif?03:07
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blankyCan someone please listen to me, anyone03:07
StarKruzrnickrud: what am I looking for in /etc/default?03:07
lgcwickedpuppy, that's the one mean! I don't get many options there. For example, when I want to go wireless at different locations. Or if I want WPA coding or whatever.03:07
blankySeveas are you here03:07
nickrudSoulPropagation, sudo apt-get install libmotif303:07
nickrudStarKruzr, if you're lucky, a file named talkd03:07
SoulPropagationnickrud: ah, thanks03:07
StarKruzrblanky: what are you asking?  isn't GDM the GNU Desktop Manager for Gnome?03:08
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blankyokay, forget that, I'll figure it out. my main question is this03:08
Amaranthnalioth: haha, i got my breezy cds today from canonical03:08
blankystarKruzr you listening? its kinda long and I typed it a couple times haha03:08
GorillaFromBeyonhow to i start xubuntu from console (in server installation) after i installed x11 ?03:08
ZedughStarKruzr, besides configuring inetd.conf to enable talkd, you need to have the inetd daemon started03:08
naliothAmaranth: who's quicker?03:09
mcadoryAmaranth: how long did it take yours to arrive?03:09
StarKruzrnickrud: there's nothing useful in there either03:09
Amaranthmcadory: two days before release to now03:09
StarKruzrZedugh: It is.  It's sitting in my process list.  Mocking me, in fact.03:09
SoulPropagationack. there's no libmotif3 package - is it in the multiverse?03:09
Amaranthnalioth: obviously.... :)03:09
blankyokay, in this page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba ), under 'time to fill in your settings', at the end of that section, it says Q: I dont have a window networking section, only hostname and domain name, what do I do know?, but it never answers it03:09
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blankyStarKruzr, you read that?03:09
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francis1710hola03:09
StarKruzrI don't know about setting up Samba under Ubuntu, if that's what you mean.03:10
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wickedpuppylgc, the feeling is that if you do not know what you are doing gui or not won't help you ... and if you know what you are doing then you need no gui :P03:10
henryhello...some of you have any idea where can i configure the winmodem if ubuntu has detected it???03:10
blankywickedpuppy03:10
nickrudStarKruzr, usually the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/<package> has useful info; I've never used talkd itself, but that's the place I nearly always find what I need03:10
blankywickedpuppy are you registered? I'd like to pm you something03:10
wickedpuppyblanky, sure ... pm me03:10
StarKruzrnickrud: there's no README.Debian in there.03:10
PinTojust a Q's if i install GNU debian i386 binary will...my ubuntu walkthroughs be relevant?03:10
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nickrudStarKruzr, then, I'm sorry about the false trail03:10
StarKruzrwe have changelog.Debian.gz, changelog.gz, and copyright.03:11
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StarKruzrI can paste the contents of my inetd.conf to someone if they like.03:11
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: still around?03:11
henrywhen i say that ubuntu detected the winmodem i mean that using system > administration > device manager....it detects the modem and says that is an intel, etc, etc03:11
AmaranthPinTo: If you use debian some of the stuff will be relevant but unless you know the differences you won't know what to follow and what not to follow03:11
henrysome idea03:11
GorillaFromBeyonbimberi, yes03:11
lgcwickedpuppy, you hit me right on the spot. But be merciful. I want something to make some thinghs easier for me. What is so stupid in what I did?03:11
GorillaFromBeyontrying to launch xubuntu03:11
PinToubuntu is i38603:12
gar-im trying to put to run in ubuntu 5.04 the dlink DWL-G122 USB wireless adapter and i canot get it on any suggection....03:12
StarKruzrtalk            dgram   udp     wait    nobody.tty      /usr/sbin/in.talkd      in.talkd03:12
GorillaFromBeyonX works but i have no DM installed (xdm, gdm, etc)03:12
StarKruzrand that's it.03:12
AmaranthPinTo: x86, ppc, and amd6403:12
StarKruzrwell, there's another one for "ntalk."03:12
wickedpuppylgc, nothing ... i don't share that feeling either .. i am teaching my girlfriend how to use linux ... LOL03:12
henrysome idea?03:12
PinToright03:12
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: yes, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu there isn't one installed by default03:12
henrysome help??03:12
GorillaFromBeyonso i just see the pointer when i start x (obviously)03:12
blankywickedpuppy I messaged you03:13
gar-any one here have a running DWL-G122 usb wireless adapter on ubuntu please let me know03:13
StarKruzrhenry: I'm afraid I don't use modems, or I would try to help.03:13
henryStarKruzr thanks...03:13
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: hopefully there's some info on that page that helps03:13
GorillaFromBeyongone, done, thanks =)03:13
GorillaFromBeyoninstalling gdm now03:13
lgcwickedpuppy, if you can make things clearer to someone like me, there are no chances she won't grasp it.03:13
StarKruzrmaybe I need to change that "wait" to "nowait."03:13
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Octanewhats the best way to fsck a mounted partition?03:13
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GorillaFromBeyonbimberi, gone, done, thanks =)03:14
SoulPropagationOctane: fscking a mounted partition kills it deddd03:14
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: np :)03:14
GorillaFromBeyonwaiting for gdm to install03:14
OctaneSoulPropagation: i know you dont do that... what do i  do then to fsck my /root?03:14
gar-any one can help me setting up the Dlink DWL-G122 USB wireless adapter please03:14
iamkirkcan ubuntu run counterstrike ? :p03:14
AngryPlumso does nebody know of ati drivers that work on ubuntu live??03:14
SoulPropagationOctane: / or /root?03:14
AngryPlummaybe a link ??03:14
SoulPropagationiamkirk: yes. http://cedega.com03:14
Octanei mean /03:14
francis1710hola03:15
themachinethis is what I got     themachine@theheartofthesun:~$ sudo mount /media/"0 GB Disk (hda1)" /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=00003:15
themachinemount: /media/0 GB Disk (hda1) is not a block device03:15
SoulPropagationOctane: there's a way to force fscking03:15
wickedpuppylgc, she is a bio student ... lol03:15
SoulPropagation** at boot time03:15
Octaneim not going to force an fsck on a mounted parition03:15
francis1710hi03:15
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mcadorygar-: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11646203:15
SoulPropagationit's before it gets mounted03:15
lgcwickedpuppy, biologists are smart, don't underestimate them!03:15
StarKruzryeah03:16
OctaneSoulPropagation: i am asking how to do that!03:16
StarKruzrthey'll pull out the petri dishes and infect you with something nasty :o03:16
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wickedpuppylgc, alright alright ... i think we are out of topic .... well .. if yours is using dhcp try dhclient eth003:16
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os2macjust wondering why I had a pm from you.03:16
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henrysome of you have ever configured a windmodem???03:16
cafuegoOctane: Mount it read-only, then fsck it.03:16
catherinecan i easily look a dvd on my television with ubuntu ?03:17
StarKruzranyone else inetd-savvy?03:17
mcadorygar-: its a start.  google'd dwl-g122 linux howto03:17
lgcwickedpuppy, thanks. But what is that supposed to do? (See, I WANT to learn!)03:17
lightbrightcatherine: what?03:17
Octanecafuego: in grub change ro to r then fsck fix it?03:17
StarKruzrit still apparently hates me.03:17
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catherinelightbright: watch a dvd03:17
StarKruzrcatherine: you're going to have trouble with DVDs right away because there are no licensed DVD players for Linux03:17
wickedpuppylgc, that will try to get the ip from dhcp server03:17
lightbrightcatherine: I can watch a dvd on Ubuntu yes03:17
StarKruzrno free ones, anyway03:17
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lightbrightcatherine: but in my country its ok to watch DVD03:18
akonkwalightbrihgt: I'm trying to send you the file03:18
catherinelightbright: i mean put what's on my screen on the TV actually03:18
lgcwickedpuppy, See, you saved me hours of perusing online manuals!03:18
devnulhello03:18
cafuegoOctane: Go to single-user mode. (sudo init 1). Then unmount all non-/ filesystems. Then 'mount -n -o remount,ro /' to mount it read-only. Then run fsck. Then 'mount -n -o remount,rw /'. Then remount non-/ filesystems, then 'init 2' to go back to multi-user mode.03:18
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lightbrightakonkwa:  its ok I got it already now03:18
StarKruzrcatherine: you're going to need a specific device for that.03:18
lightbrightakonkwa:  thanks anyway :)03:18
cafuegoOctane: No rebooting inviolved, unless fsck _needs_ to.03:18
StarKruzrmaybe your graphics card has video-out?03:18
francis1710yes03:18
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Octanecafuego: bueaitful thank you so much03:18
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themachinetheres a good dvd player for linux that boots up your pc called Geexbox03:19
akonkwalightbright : np03:19
cafuegoOctane: Alternatively, you can run 'sudo touch /forcefsck' and reboot; that should force FSCK on / after a reboot.03:19
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catherineI jut want to be able to use a S-VIDEO cable between my computer and my TV on ubuntu, is that easy to do ?03:19
StarKruzrthemachine: "boots up your pc?"03:19
wickedpuppylgc, you must learn to rtfm ... sometimes there is nobody but you and the shell03:19
catherinelike on windows xp03:19
Octanecafuego: using touch, which partitions wil lthat fsck?03:19
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StarKruzrcatherine: what are you going to do about sound?03:19
Octaneoh on/03:19
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cafuegoOctane: only /03:19
StarKruzrcatherine: have you tried it already?03:19
Red-Soxfor some reason, my gaim account all the sudden wont sign ov03:19
Red-Soxon*03:19
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Octaneso i fi do 'sudo touch /home/forcefsck' itll fsck it too?03:19
cafuegoOctane: The rest you can do by hand.03:19
lightbrightcatherine:  so saving you byuing a dvd player for your TV, right? :)03:19
catherineStarKruzr: i don't care of the sound03:19
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StarKruzrhm03:20
StarKruzrokay03:20
cafuegoOctane: No, BUT you can do somethign tricky with 'tune2fs'03:20
StarKruzrbut have you tried it already?03:20
lightbrightakonkwa:  :)03:20
StarKruzrbecause honestly I can't think of a reason it wouldn't work.03:20
iamkirkis there any way i can play counterstrike on linux without having to pay03:20
Octanecuz i really need to fsck my /home parititon03:20
cafuegoOctane: Yiou can unmount /home, then mark it as dirty via tune2fs. if it's marked dirty, it will be fsck'ed at boorup.03:20
iamkirkthis cedega thing is nifty but i dont want to spend money :p03:20
catherinelightbright: it's not only for DVDs, but also for presentations on TV screen03:20
StarKruzriamkirk: this is probably not the place to ask about warez ;)03:20
lightbrightcatherine:  sounds good03:20
lgcwickedpuppy,  It's been like that for many years. That's why I don't know much. I found the treasure cove with this "xchat" thing!03:21
catherineit's so easy to do with windows xp, i thought it could possible on ubuntu03:21
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cafuegoOctane: If you'd like to fsck all of them easily, close all apps, then hit the reset button on the computer case ;-)03:21
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iamkirkim not talking about free... i bought a copy of counterstrike today and dont want to play it in winblows ;P03:21
catherinejust need a svideo cable03:21
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StarKruzrahhh03:21
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Zedughcatherine, what kind of video card do you have?03:21
lightbrightcatherine: anything possible with XP is possible with Linux :)03:21
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Octanecafuego:  ive actually done that and suprisingly it doesnt fsck everything :)03:21
cafuegoOctane: No, only stuff marked dirty (but that SHOULD include home and / anyway)03:22
iamkirki see ways of playing cs on linux , but i dont want to have to pay twice to play a game03:22
srihi all03:22
iamkirkthats all im asking03:22
catherineZedugh: ati03:22
srianybody getting this strange bug with Xorg spinning 100% if you load an app that uses gtk treeview widget?03:22
catherineZedugh: radeon03:22
lgcwickedpuppy, back on topic again, when I do "dhclient eth0" will I lose my eth1 link?03:22
cafuegoiamkirk: That's the joy of proprietary software.03:22
Octanecafuego: thanks for your help. im gonna try this out. i appreciate it.03:23
wickedpuppylgc, i am not sure .... see i never use two ethernet at the same time ... assume it will03:23
Mabus06the sound quality for my doom 3 on linux is so incredibly bad... how do I fix this?03:23
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iamkirkso no counterstrike on linux.....disappointing03:23
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cafuegoiamkirk: Via Cedega it ought to run fine.03:24
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lightbright!wvdial03:24
lgcwickedpuppy, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". I rather wait, that is.03:24
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, lightbright03:24
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wickedpuppylgc, agree with ya there ...03:24
lightbrightanyone know what exactly wvdial is?03:24
cafuego!info wvdial03:24
ubotuwvdial: (PPP dialer with built-in intelligence), section comm, is optional. Version: 1.54.0-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 320 kB03:24
lightbrightcafuego: thanks03:24
Mabus06lightbright, doom 3 has incredibly crappy sound quality for me, any idea how to change this? the video works just smoothly03:24
cafuego!rule 103:25
ubotuRule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!03:25
lightbrightcafuego: how is wvdial different from gnome-ppp ?03:25
lgcwickedpuppy, can you tell me where I can find some 'succint' intro to Linux network interfaces?03:25
kwtm2!rule 203:25
ubotukwtm2: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:25
themachineis there any special way to mount ntfs with write ability?03:25
cafuegolightbright: I have no idea.03:25
lightbrightMabus06: sorry I am not sure.03:25
wickedpuppylgc, google03:25
lightbrightcafuego: ok ty anyway03:25
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lightbrightMabus06: can you change it in options of the game?03:25
cafuegothemachine: Yes, via using an ugly hack to load the actual windows NT driver into the kernel. (captive ntfs)03:25
Mabus06anyone have any idea how I can make the sound quality for doom 3 not so incredibly crappy?03:25
lightbrightMabus06:  does Doom 3 have a sounds Option?03:26
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Mabus06lightbright, no... no "crappy sound' checkbox ;)03:26
cafuegothemachine: It cannot be done with the normal (free) driver without destroying the filesystem.03:26
lightbrightMabus06:  lol ;)03:26
lgcwickedpuppy, Google is very helpful, but sometimes you get swamped in info an you don't get what you want. Better ask the 'connosieurs'03:26
Mabus06lightbright, no real audio options that would point to a fix03:26
lightbrightMabus06:  im surprised because most games have a sound options03:26
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lightbrightMabus06: ok03:26
francis1710nosilber03:26
francis1710k lo k03:26
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lightbrightMabus06:  can you run doom with paramaters?03:27
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iamkirklinux is owning me03:27
tyoungAnybody know how to fix your sudoers file?  I tried adding a user to it for the first time, and now it has some sort of syntax error.03:27
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wickedpuppylgc, be specific ... btw ... did you google for the error you got ? someone already fixed it03:27
Mabus06I don't know, can I?03:27
cafuegoiamkirk: cedega is far cheaper than windows.03:27
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mrkojeiamkirk: haha windows is owning me right now03:27
iamkirkwindows was free :P03:27
cafuegoiamkirk: No, it wasn't.03:27
lightbrightMabus06:  not sure!  do a search with google looking for doom3 and your name of sound card03:27
Mabus06lightbright, sound was working just as bad with my onboard03:28
cafuegoit was eprhaps not on the bill, but that's another issue :-)03:28
iamkirkwhen i ran windows i never had to pay for anything :P03:28
lightbrightMabus06: maybe doom doesnt properlt recognise them03:28
mrkojefor some reason... Win automatic update decided to download a new Sil3114 raid driver that broke my system03:28
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iamkirkim not cheap... im just a student03:28
bimberityoung: reboot into recovery mode and fix it from there03:28
lightbrightiamkirk: are you a thief?03:28
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mrkojemfer win update03:28
themachinehes a pirate yarr03:28
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lightbrightthemachine: :P03:28
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lgcwickedpuppy, yes, I got it. But again, I'll have to read a lot! (Yes, I know, I should't consider Linux if I don't like to read forever, right?)03:28
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iamkirk that hurts guys.... because i have a peg-leg im considered a pirate03:29
tyoungbimberi: tks03:29
iamkirk;P03:29
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lightbrightiamkirk: :P03:29
bimberityoung: yw :)03:29
lightbrightcafuego: lol03:29
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B_166-ER-Xgood things that KDE apps works with gnome..cause i find em much better.... K3b, ktorrent, ark..03:29
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breezyeek its taken03:30
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bimberibreezybright then?03:30
lightbrightbimberi:  hehe ;)03:30
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basti__once I have made a group, how do I put users into that group using terminal?03:31
lightbrightbrb food time :)  yum03:31
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typewriterusermod -G group user03:31
cafuegobasti__: sudo adduser <user> <group>03:31
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lightbrightbimberi: whats difference between typing gksudo nautilus and sudo nautilus ?03:31
NanookHi guys03:31
basti__cafuego, Idont want a new user. I think typewriters answer was correct. thanks both of you :)03:31
cafuegobasti__: No, you are mistaken.03:32
bimberilightbright: the type of password prompt (gui or cli)03:32
naliothlightbright: the gksudo is a bit safer to use, due to permissioning03:32
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cafuegobasti__: My command add <user> to <group>. It doesn't create new users or groups.03:32
lightbrightbimberi:  ok03:32
lightbrightnalioth: ok thanks03:32
lightbrightbrb food time :)03:32
GorillaFromBeyonbimberi, xubuntu is not listed in gdm window managers03:32
crimsunthat's because "xubuntu" is not a window manager03:32
iamkirkbah03:33
GorillaFromBeyonso gdm starts but when i log in nothing happens of course since i dont have gnome installed03:33
crimsun'xubuntu-desktop' is a metapackage03:33
basti__ok then. just seemed like adduser does infact do adda  new user ;) I will write this down in my memo list. thanks for the info03:33
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: how about the Session list?03:33
crimsun"xfwm4" is the actual window manager03:33
GorillaFromBeyonit doesnt appear in the session list03:33
iamkirkfine you rat buggers , ill pay for that service.... if my vred card has room on it03:33
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crimsunGorillaFromBeyon: did you install 'xubuntu-desktop'?03:33
ghostpsalmIs there anyway to make a LOG of the boot process... so I can look at it when it is not going so fast?03:33
iamkirkbut if it sucks im writing you all an angry letter03:33
cafuegocrimsun: But it'll probably be listed as 'XFCE4'.03:33
NanookI have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my computer, and I opened Firefox and tried to install Macromedia Flash Player, dowloaded the file and opened it OK, and it said I need to "copy the following files into the browser plugin folder...", how do I access this folder, as I can't seem to find it03:34
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cafuegoiamkirk: Notwe that (just like windows and cs) cedega is proprietary and the AUTHORS should support you.03:34
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vegosi am having trouble compiling03:35
vegoscan someone help03:35
crimsuninstall build-essential03:35
wickedpuppyvegos, compiling what ?03:35
GorillaFromBeyoncrimsun GorillaFromBeyon: did you install 'xubuntu-desktop'? ahem, whoops (installing it now)03:35
vegosi have downloaded a few programs03:35
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: i though you installed it earlier! :)03:35
bimberi*thought03:35
vegosbut when i enter "make"03:36
GorillaFromBeyoni installed xubuntu desktop manager something03:36
vegosit says something about target03:36
GorillaFromBeyonthat u told me03:36
ghostpsalmIs there a log of the boot process?03:36
GorillaFromBeyonwait, it still doesnt appear in the session list in gdm03:36
wickedpuppyvegos, have you done ./configure first ?03:36
vegosyes03:36
henrythis one is easy: how can i choose the color deepth in ubuntu linux?03:36
cafuegodo not do ./configure03:36
Nanookhow can I find the folder FIrefox is installed in??03:37
LTLghostpsalm type dmesg03:37
GorillaFromBeyoni only have default, failsafe gnome and failsafe terminal03:37
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wickedpuppycafuego, why not ? i thought SOP is ./configure;make;make install ?03:37
cafuegoGorillaFromBeyon: 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'03:37
vegosthats what i thought too03:37
GorillaFromBeyoni did that03:37
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart03:37
cafuegowickedpuppy: It is, HOWEVER: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall03:37
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cafuegowickedpuppy: ... for great justice (and easier management)03:38
mrkojecafuego: If the app isn't listed in the repository then you have to make it yourself03:38
tommyim on ubuntu can some one help me access my windows partion to get my mp3's03:38
Zedughghostpalm, or try Applications->SystemTools->SystemLog03:38
mrkojecafuego: dont you03:38
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vegostommy: have you mounted03:38
GorillaFromBeyoni restarted X before and now i did as u told me, it restarted gdm but still nothing changed in the session list03:39
tommynope03:39
ghostpsalmLTL:  Do you know of anyway to scroll back through a terminal - when you are not in a window manager?03:39
tommyvegos,  can u help me03:40
SoulPropagationghostpsalm: shift+pgup03:40
vegostommy:http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows03:40
ghostpsalmChhers.03:40
vegosmount your windows partition03:40
vegosand then you should be able to do it03:40
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krak`nixhow do i use grep to search for files containing "m3u" in their text03:41
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: hm, unfortunately i don't use xubuntu so am struggling to help :/ - perhaps check ubuntuforums03:41
sriso I just managed to upgrade again and it updated xserver-xorg-core03:41
sriand that made a bigger mess.03:41
Red-Soxhow do you do a direct client to client in gaim03:41
bimberikrak`nix: grep m3u *03:41
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cafuegokrak`nix: 'grep m3u *'03:41
sriso nobody has any problems with X on dapper?03:41
GorillaFromBeyonbimberi, don't mention it, thank you very much03:41
SoulPropagationRed-Sox: you can't - it's not working too well yet03:42
Mabus06could someone help me with my problems playing doom3 for linux? the sound quality is unbelievably choppy. there may be fixes on google but they're all over my head. Can anyone please help me? Please/03:42
bimberiGorillaFromBeyon: np :)03:42
cafuegokrak`nix: if you hve binary files there too, pipe the outout into 'less'.03:42
watnuRed-Sox: you need a jabberd server03:42
Red-Soxokay03:42
Red-Soxill try kopete03:42
vegosso about this make problem03:42
vegoscan someone help03:42
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cafuegosri: of course you'll have issues with an unstable release. Why did you think upgrading was a good idea?03:42
henrysome idea where can I start to recompile the kernel???03:43
SoulPropagationvegos: what's the error03:43
sricafuego: just wanted to help test :)03:43
krak`nixinto less?03:43
cafuegohenry: Why do you need to do that?03:43
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watnu03:43
vegoswhen i enter "make"03:43
cafuegokrak`nix: 'grep m3u * | less'03:43
sricafuego: although next time I might just do it under vmware instead.03:43
vegosit says something about not having a target03:43
bimberibah, cafuego too fast that time :)03:43
cafuegowatnu: precies03:43
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cafuegobimberi: muaha!03:43
henrycafuego I think that if I do it, I can compile it with the driver of the winmodem...03:44
krak`nixhow about being recursive?  this doesnt seem to be going into folders03:44
henrymay be may be...03:44
cafuegohenry: You should be able to compile JUST the driver03:44
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SoulPropagationvegos: do ./configure first03:44
woozleboycan someone help me with installing 5.1 on a sparc ultra 2?03:44
mrkojetiene feliz dia acciones de gracias03:44
henrycafuego I am a newbye in linux...some guide to read about?03:44
cafuegohenry: You'll need (on breezy) gcc-3.4, build-essential, kernel-headers-($uname -r)03:44
bimberikrak`nix: grep -r m3u * | less03:45
vegosi have03:45
cafuegowoozleboy: 5.1 what?03:45
vegosstill have the same problem03:45
Mabus06could someone help me with my problems playing doom3 for linux? the sound quality is unbelievably choppy. there may be fixes on google but they're all over my head. Can anyone please help me? Please/03:45
woozleboy5.1003:45
cafuegovegos: Check the INSTALL file.03:45
cafuegowoozleboy: Are there unofficial sparc idos?03:45
cafuegoisos?03:45
woozleboyyes03:45
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jorge_sup guys03:45
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vegosi have this problem with multiple (different) installs03:45
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woozleboywell, its a mini iso that does a net install03:46
vegoswith the same result03:46
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typewriteri just installed the 'base' system of ubuntu.. wanna install kubuntu but didnt wanna go through downloading the cd03:46
cafuegowoozleboy: Can you boot that thing from the cd?03:46
typewriterall i need to do now is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop... corerct?03:46
SoulPropagationtypewriter: yes03:46
cafuegotypewriter: Yep03:46
Zedughvegos, check the website from where you downloaded the source. look for installation instructions, you might need to specify the target, ie: make <some-target>. Also the problem might be a bad make file. Lots of stuff ive downloaded wont compile. Just because its downloadable (even if the author says its so good, etc) doesn't mean it compiles or works.03:46
woozleboyi can boot. the problem Im having is that no disks are detected. looks like there is no driver for the onboard scsi03:46
cafuegowoozleboy: Do you know offhand what controller that is?03:46
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woozleboybut theres not much in the way of docs, so Im looking for someone who may have done the install03:47
vegosi think that it is something more than that becasue everything ive downloaded wont compile03:47
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woozleboyits an STP2202.......   I think it is a Sun custom controller03:47
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cafuegovegos: Did ./configure wrok or fail?03:47
Zedughvegos, type 'make --version' and see what make you're running03:47
vegosit worked03:47
cafuegowoozleboy: it's be very odd if that wasn't supported in a sun-specific version...03:48
woozleboylinux is supposed to have support for the sun4u architecture, which I hope includes that chip03:48
cafuegovegos: is there a 'Makefile' in the current directory?03:48
vegosyes, there is a makefile03:48
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woozleboythe chip and disks test ok, and I have solaris 7 installed on them03:48
cafuegovegos: What does 'INSTALL" or 'README" say you should run?03:48
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vegosall of the downloads ive encountered say to do the ./configure;make;make install03:49
SoulPropagationvegos: "cat INSTALL"03:49
cafuegovegos: That's nice, but doesn't answer my question.03:49
vegoscat INSTALL?03:50
SoulPropagationvegos: ya03:50
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SoulPropagationlook at that file03:50
SoulPropagationit should tell you something03:50
vegosi have to go to my ubuntu partition03:50
vegosbe back in a few03:50
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Mabus06can someone help me to update my emu10k1 drivers?03:51
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Mabus06I downloaded the tar file of the recent release, unarchived it, and I have a folder with a bunch of files in it, what do I do with it?03:51
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SoulPropagationMabus06: ./configure && make && make install03:51
Mabus06uh... noob it down for me03:52
SoulPropagationMabus06: go to a terminal, cd into the directory03:52
SoulPropagationand type that03:52
cafuegoSoulPropagation forgot step 1.03:52
cafuegoRead the damn docs that come with it.03:52
SoulPropagationcafuego: *whistle*03:52
Mabus06there were no docs, cheery one03:52
varsendaggeris SWAT here?03:53
bimberialso s/make install/checkinstall/      (after installing checkinstall)03:53
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snausagesHey all, how can I test my CD burner, to check if there's something wrong with it? I get a lot of errors when trying to burn ISOs - most of the CDs end up being unbootable03:53
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cafuegoMabus06: You're going to need the header files associated with your current kernel. Run 'sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)'03:53
Mabus06bash: ./: is a directory03:53
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lightbrightsnausages: hello porky03:54
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Mabus06E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-38603:54
snausageslightbright, huh?03:54
lightbrightsnausages: porky as in pork :P03:54
srieh?03:55
navaronelightbright> that's not kosher...;)03:55
lightbrightsnausages: you running gnomebaker or k3b?03:55
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srimm.. sausages03:55
lightbrightnavarone: :)03:55
snausageslightbright, i tried both03:55
snausagesk3b usually screws up more03:55
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SoulPropagationsnausages: try cdrecord03:55
lightbrightsnausages: what size cd-rw you using?03:55
snausageslightbright, 700mb03:55
snausagesor wait03:56
snausagesit may be a 65003:56
kwtm1Hi, all: what's the cmd-line way to see if a package is installed, not yet installed, or nonexistent again?  Is it "dpkg MyPackage" or "apt-get MyPackage" or which?  (Bonus points if I can also see the source of the package, e.g. "MyPackage is not installed but Ubuntu will get it from www.MoreUbuntuPackages.org" or something.03:56
pepsi1i am having problems with fonts03:56
snausagesno, 70003:56
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snausageslightbright, it's not a cd-rw, but a cd-r :)03:56
pepsi1is there some kind of secret to being able to use all the fonts on my machine?03:56
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lightbrightsnausages: are you telling it 700 and your right speed it can do?03:57
SoulPropagationkwtm1: dpkg -l | grep packagename || apt-get install packagename03:57
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snausageslightbright, yes03:57
lightbrightsnausages: tried test burn first?03:57
gerard_21hi!!03:57
kwtm1Thanks, SoulPropagation03:57
lightbrightsnausages: do the test burns work?03:57
snausageslightbright, no, i haven't done that03:57
SoulPropagationkwtm1: yeah sure no prob03:57
steavenwho use samsung printe03:57
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snausageslightbright, i haven't done tests, i did a burn right away03:57
lightbrightsnausages: just do test03:57
snausagesactually i got some new cds today, and yeah, i'll try a test first03:57
lightbrightsnausages: just do test till you get it right!  has it picked up your right model?03:58
kwtm1SoulPropagation: I'm looking at the output; does the existence of a greppable line mean that the package is already installed?03:58
gerard_21beautiful!!03:58
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snausageslightbright, it has the right burner model, yes03:58
SoulPropagationkwtm1: yah03:58
gerard_21Any one here care to chat??03:58
lightbrightsnausages: cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA03:58
kwtm1SoulPropagation: Part of what I want to do here is to identify the correct packagename, or at least know if I've spelled the package name wrong.03:58
snausageslightbright, i think it may be the cd-rs though03:58
SoulPropagationerror: The Motif library '-lXm' could not be found. <-- i have motif installed and it sees motif, so why isn't it there?03:58
lightbrightsnausages: have you ever used that brand cd-r before?03:58
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SoulPropagationkwtm1: what Do you want to do03:58
snausageslightbright, what does that do03:58
snausageslightbright, yes, but usually just for audio cds, not for ISOs03:59
sriwell, if X is broken then I shall build X..mwhaha.03:59
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gerard_21Hi there!!03:59
kwtm1SoulPropagation: Say I want to install, I dunno, "Colour Paint"  ... but maybe it's "kolourpaint" or "kolor_paint" or something.  I want to know what the deb package is called.03:59
lightbrightsnausages: ok well are they made especially for audio?03:59
bimberiSoulPropagation: libmotif-dev perhaps??03:59
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sricvs X11 is pretty hot I hear03:59
snausageslightbright, no03:59
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snausageslightbright, general purpose03:59
gerard_21color-paint !!03:59
SoulPropagationbimberi: maybe03:59
lightbrightsnausages: ok03:59
gerard_21yeah maybe!!04:00
lightbrightsnausages: you come from windows?04:00
bimberiSoulPropagation: worth a try :)04:00
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navaronesnausages> did you specify you were burung a image file to cd or just data? If data you amy have just burned the .iso to cd04:00
SoulPropagationbimberi: word04:00
sricafuego: it takes a certain amount of patience to deal with people who aren't familiar with teh command line..!!04:00
snausageslightbright, yes but i haven't used windows in a few months04:00
lightbrightsnausages: read navarone question04:00
snausagesnavarone, i did an iso burn04:00
SoulPropagationsri: there's a reason bash is older than X ;)04:00
SoulPropagationwell, sh04:00
snausagesan image burn, rather04:00
lightbrightsnausages: what is on the cd?04:01
navaroneimage burns take forever to heal04:01
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lightbrightsnausages: is everything on there, it just cant boot?04:01
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Liketdoes anyone have any idea how to use a block device (hardware raid-5) greater than 2TB in breezy on an EM64T system?04:01
vid21Has anyone here tried to install Ubuntu from hard disk using Knoppix: bootfrom=/dev/hda2/ubuntu.iso04:01
snausageslightbright, sometimes the cd boots, but i get erros midway in the install04:01
gerard_21anyone here??04:01
snausagesi also checked the md5sum, that was ok04:01
lightbrightsnausages: did it copy everyhing to the CD is what Im asking04:01
navaronesnausages what brand cd you using?04:01
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snausagesnavarone, sony04:01
snausages:P04:01
SoulPropagationLiket: prolly just a special driver04:02
lightbrightsnausages: if everything copied, then it seems to work and maybe prob with image, not ubuntu, not cd writer or cd's04:02
gerard_21May i can help you if you want!!04:02
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kwtm1Okay, I've got to go.  Bye all!04:02
LiketSoulPropagation: which special driver, and for what?04:02
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snausageslightbright, ok, i'm gonna do a test burn for now, and then try my new cd-rs also04:02
SoulPropagationLiket: noooo idea. i don't work with stuff on that scale04:02
Zedughkwtm1: sudo apt-get -s install <package-name>04:02
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lightbrightsnausages: great idea and check to see if everything copied04:02
LiketSoulPropagation: the raid controller is supported fine, but i'm having problems creating a partition that big in cfdisk, parted as well as the installer04:03
gerard_21yeah yeah!!!!!!!04:03
navaroneSoulProp> was way over my head as well...:)04:03
sriSoulPropagation: actually I believe bourne is older than X, bash I think came after X.04:03
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lightbrightLiket: have you tried gparted?04:03
henryey what does it mean that modules in the kernel are not available under a04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
henrycompletely Free licence??? am I using pirate software??????????????????????04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
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h2theizzo?04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
Mabus06shut up gerard_2104:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
UeuecoyotlNope.04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
navaronegerard stop flooding04:03
ale3hslisten, I downloaded amule, and every file in in waiting status?? whats goinon?? first time i run amule and linux in general04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
cafuegoLiket: That may or may not require a custom kernel.04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
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gerard_21anyone here??04:03
gerard_21anyone here??04:03
cafuegogerard_21: Stop spamming.04:04
gerard_21anyone here??04:04
cafuego!ops04:04
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cafuego!ops04:04
ttrygveis there a gparted/qtparted like program that understands LVM?04:04
ttrygvegerard, shut the fuck up04:04
henryh2theizzo it seems none is here, jejeje04:04
UeuecoyotlI like /ignore :)04:04
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cafuegoAmaranth: thanks!04:04
henry h2theizzo sorry, last message was for  gerard_2104:04
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WengIs there a way to add another mirror/repository to Synaptic from the commandline?04:04
cafuegonalioth even :-)04:04
ttrygvedamn, gaim doesn't seem to understand /ignore04:04
Liketcafuego: i did read about a CONFIG_LBD flag in the kernel, but according to the info I found, it would only affect the 32-bit version -- the 64-bit version would always support greater block devices than 2TB.. also, i'm pretty sure the default ubuntu kernel is compiled with it04:04
navarone<boot>04:04
h2theizzo-=snickers=- its ok henry04:04
ale3hsanswer me ... do I have to download another program?? is amule ok??04:04
Amaranthnavarone: No need if he stops.04:04
h2theizzobah04:05
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h2theizzo10 hour day today04:05
h2theizzoim pooped out04:05
navaroneAmaranth...I was commenting on it already occuring...:)04:05
cafuegoLiket: grep CONFIG_LBD /boot/config-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 -> CONFIG_LBD=y; indeed. Hrm.04:05
vid21Does anyone know what would happen if I tried to install Ubuntu from hard disk using Knoppix: bootfrom=/dev/hda2/ubuntu.iso04:05
vid21?04:05
henryey what does it mean that modules in the kernel are not available under a completely Free licence??? am I using pirate software??????????????????????04:05
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Liketcafuego: last, i was able to create logical partitions (with cfdisk) totalling the full size of the disk (2.5 TB) but after that neither CFDISK not PARTED would recognize the disk anymore, so here I am in the ubuntu installer again, erasing the entire disk04:06
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Liketcafuego: which is fine as it's a brand new system -- as long as i can get it to work, i'll be happy :)04:06
navaronehenry> probably mean you have to dl software that is available but not open source04:06
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navaronehenry> like video driver04:06
ttrygveso anyway, gparted was mentioned ... anyone know of anything like that with LVM support?04:07
kreatinehow can i change apt-get so that it will always go for sources online instead of on the cd?04:07
henrynavarone ah ok, I dont get the code, but I dont have to pay for that software, am I right???04:07
WengWhere is Synaptic's repository list stored?04:07
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navaronehenry> no...you have to find what is missing and possibly get it on manufacturers site04:08
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kreatinehow can i change apt-get so that it will always go for sources online instead of on the cd?04:08
P229atheros chipset cards for wireless?04:08
Zedughkreatine: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom line04:08
ttrygve /etc/apt/sources.list04:08
navaronehenry> which modules affected?04:08
kreatinethanks guys04:08
kreatinevery helpful :)04:08
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ttrygveor go to Applications > Add Applications04:08
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Mabus06how do I get the 2.6.12 kernel headers for ubuntu???04:08
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ttrygveand edit the repositories there by selecting the cdrom one and deleting it04:08
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eric__Hey...I'm a bit of an Ubuntu/linux newbie...04:09
navaroneMabus> should be in development main or universe04:09
lightbrightanyone here use Gnomemeeting?04:09
Mabus06navarone, I have all my repos enabled but I can't find it04:09
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Mabus06navarone, what do I search for in synaptic, or type in the command line?04:09
eric__Not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'm having a PCI graphics card issue.04:09
mobushow do I install the JRE?04:09
henrynavarone I think u r asking which modules do i have installed: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-38604:09
navaroneMabus> look in Synaptic but Section and look thru the Development sections04:09
h2theizzoMabus06 apt-get install packagename04:09
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mobusthe ubuntuguide told me how but it was an old version04:10
vego1im having trouble installing04:10
lightbrightmobus: sudo aptitude install j2re1.404:10
mobuswhy aptitude may I ask?04:10
mobusand not apt?04:10
vego1when i ./configure it says that there is no c compiler in path04:10
kreatineby default is php installed as an apache module? or stand alone?04:10
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vego1any help?04:10
Mabus06navarone, what do you mean look through the sections?04:10
h2theizzovega make sure you have the gcc compiler installed04:10
mobusvegol sudo apt-get install gcc04:10
ttrygvevego: install g++04:10
ttrygveand gcc04:11
Mabus06navarone, I searched for headers and all the versions except 2.6.12 show up... which is the one I need04:11
navaronevego1? go to Synaptic adn dl "build essentials" that should sort it04:11
SoulPropagationrcn_lo.c:####: error: invalid lvalue in assignment04:11
ttrygveI think there's a bundle that includes those and several other packages04:11
vego1is that in synaptic?04:11
ttrygveyeah, build essentials, that's it04:11
lightbrightmobus: some prefer aptitude as some say it keeps better records of dependencies etc if you ever want to remove something04:11
sabrina_lesliehi, when my computer boots up it waits for a network clock synchronization, even if I have the clock turned off, any ideas on why that happens?04:11
navaronevego1>yes...just do a search from Edit menu04:11
sabrina_lesliei.e. i mean clock synchronization off04:11
lightbrightmobus: so I have heard anyway04:11
vego1what is the package again?04:11
SoulPropagationsabrina_leslie: just hit ctrl+c when you see the message04:11
navaroneMabus> what arch kernel you using? 686?04:11
sabrina_leslieit stays "waiting to connect to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" or somethin g04:11
lightbrightmobus: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4  or sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 :)  your choice ;)04:11
sabrina_lesliesoulpropagation: exactly I don't want to do that everytime! it's annoying04:12
SoulPropagationsabrina_leslie: edit your inittab then04:12
sabrina_lesliewhy doesn't it work by turning the clock synch off?04:12
sabrina_lesliein the GUI?04:12
ttrygvevego1: apt-get install build-essential04:12
ttrygveshould do it04:12
SoulPropagationsabrina_leslie: ya04:12
sabrina_lesliesoul: ubuntu should be user-friendly04:12
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h2theizzovego, -=snickers=- it everywhere04:12
vego1ok thanks guys04:12
SoulPropagationsabrina_leslie: ftmp it is04:12
ttrygveno problem vego04:13
sabrina_lesliewhat is ftmp ?04:13
navaroneMabus> when you open Synaptic go to lower left and click Sections...it will list packages according to category04:13
SoulPropagationfor the most part04:13
sabrina_lesliewell, what about the clock?04:13
henryif I try to install the source of the kernel, is not important if I have 2.6.12-9 or 2.6.12-12 ??????????????04:13
lightbrightsabrina_leslie: I have the fix for that04:13
sabrina_lesliehow do i "edit the initab"04:13
sabrina_leslielight: what is the fix?04:13
navaronevego1> build essentials04:13
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henrysorry,  not 2.6.12-12 but  2.6.12-1004:13
lightbrightsabrina_leslie: I have the fix for that!  you want to remove the synchronizing clock untuntu.org FAiled message?04:13
sabrina_leslieyes, i want it to boot automatically lightbright04:14
Mabus06navarone, I'm not sure what kernel I'm using...04:14
tOpEzzhello i need help here04:14
lightbrightsabrina_leslie: then type this:  sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove04:14
tOpEzzmy totem cannot work04:14
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lightbrightsabrina_leslie:  that will remove the failed message04:14
tOpEzzanybody can help me?04:14
sabrina_leslielight: THANKS04:15
lightbrighttOpEzz: type this:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine04:15
basti__this might be a stupid question but when I view index.html on my webserver from my desktop, then I access that file as "athers" right?04:15
sabrina_leslieI did it04:15
SoulPropagationlightbright: wow, i was always too lazy to figure out how to do it, but thanks for tellin' meh! :P04:15
sabrina_leslieupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purge (continuing)04:15
sabrina_leslie Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/ntpdate ...04:15
sabrina_leslie   /etc/rcS.d/S51ntpdate04:15
tOpEzzowh04:15
tOpEzzokey04:15
tOpEzzi try04:15
lightbrighttOpEzz: then your Totem will work :)04:15
lightbrightSoulPropagation: cool ;)04:15
sabrina_lesliebye light gotta test it04:15
lightbrighttOpEzz: after that installed type: gst-register-0.804:15
lightbrightsabrina_leslie: ok04:15
ttrygvetOpEzz: I haven't had much luck with totem either, but follow the instructions from the relevant portions of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:16
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lightbrighttOpEzz: you may also need w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb04:16
ttrygveand you should have much better multimedia support04:16
siriuskrcan you open MS database files in open office base ?04:16
tOpEzzstill cannot04:16
lightbrightttrygve: the command I gave makes it work04:16
irvintOpEzz: you need totem-xine04:16
lightbrighttOpEzz: did you install what I said?04:16
lightbrighttOpEzz: type this:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine04:16
ttrygvesure, totem worked after I did that, but I never did get the totem plugins working in firefox04:16
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siriuskrcan you open MS database files in open office base ?04:17
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tOpEzzwait04:17
Corrupterwhats the best p2p program for Linux?04:17
tOpEzzTotem could not startup04:17
irvinsiriuskr: if you mean MS Access database yes04:17
sriftp?04:17
tOpEzzResource busy or not available04:17
ttrygvewhen playing something locally, I've found I prefer xine.  I'm guessing mplayer will probably work best for in-browser media, but I don't know04:17
lightbrightCorrupter: try Gtk-Gnutella04:17
siriuskrwhen i try to open it in base it lets me but doesnt let me see anything in it like its not working04:18
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Corrupterwhat about DC++ or Limewire, they any good?04:18
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bimberilightbright: so you like gtk-gnutella? :)04:18
thompa-Ahi04:18
fletch33hey quick ? i was just helping a friend set up ubu and he got a beboot strap eror twice and since he set up his partitions and hasnt gotten to setup grub he says windows finds zero partitions04:18
Zedught0pEzz, try gxine04:18
Chinamanyawn04:18
thompa-Awhy isnt windows partition auto mounted in ubuntu like some other distros?04:19
Mabus06how do I install kernel headers for 2.6.12?04:19
Jon2This may sound extremely stupid, but I downloaded the latest version of Firefox and Thunderbird and they won't run.  I followed the directions in the release notes, which were extract the archive and run firefox/thunder bird, but a command prompt comes up for a split second and then it does nothing.04:19
fletch33how can i help him or what is the boot strap error04:19
Corrupterare Limewire or DC++ good programs for Linux?04:19
irvintOpEzz: you can also use mplayer04:19
Mabus06limewire is fine, Corrupter04:19
tOpEzzgxine04:19
lightbrightbimberi:  yeah thanks :)04:19
tOpEzzyea irwin04:19
Corrupterwhat about DC++, never used it before04:19
tOpEzzi just finish download mplayer just now04:19
lightbrightbimberi:  wish I knew about that before I dl limewire!  does it need Java too?>04:20
tOpEzzhehehe04:20
tOpEzzbut still dunno how to install it04:20
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Corrupterget automatix04:20
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dducko!limewire04:20
ubotu[limewire]  first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.04:20
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bimberiMabus06: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:20
fletch33bimberi,  whats up04:20
bimberilightbright: nope04:20
irvintOpEzz: sudo apt-get install mplayer04:20
tOpEzzwait04:20
bimberifletch33: nommuch :)04:20
lightbrightMabus06: why do you need kernel headers?  what is that? :P04:20
fletch33bimberi,  my buddy was setting up ubu and keeps getting a bot strap error04:20
dduckotOpEzz, How did you download mplayer?  (that was the way you should have did it) what irvin said04:21
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lightbrightkinetic: hello04:21
bimberifletch33: yeah i saw that, dunno sorry04:21
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tOpEzzReading package lists... Done04:21
fletch33bimberi,  now he cant even start windows04:21
dduckolightbright, for compliling stuff, such as Nvidia drivers04:21
Mabus06no idea lightbright... I'm pretty blind here04:21
tOpEzzBuilding dependency tree... Done04:21
tOpEzzE: Couldn't find package mplayer04:21
kineticlightbright heloo04:21
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lightbrightdducko:  ah ok04:21
dduckoubotu tell tOpEzz about paste04:21
dduckoubotu tell tOpEzz about repos04:21
lightbrightMabus06:  ;P04:21
tOpEzz?04:21
Corrupterok, i highly disklike the face that gnutella shows your ip as you username...04:21
fletch33bimberi,  by the way i got that freenx client working fine but i cant get it working in the server end04:21
tOpEzzhhehhee04:21
dduckotOpEzz, you need to Enable the extra repos as the bot told you in those messges04:22
ttrygvesiriuskr: I can't answer your question as I'm just looking at OO Base for the first time tonight, myself04:22
fletch33bimberi,  i cant win on this freenx thing04:22
kineticis there a way to set up kde with my current ububtu install running gnome?04:22
dduckothen tOpEzz you can install mplayer04:22
irvinguys, from which repo is mplayer again?04:22
ttrygvebut if you find any good beginner docs for it, I'd appreciate a pointer =)04:22
fletch33bimberi,  it says freenx but it is costing me my sanity lol04:22
dduckoYeas kinetic apt-get install kde-desktop04:22
Hobbseeirvin: probably multiverse04:22
bimberifletch33: :(04:22
Hobbseekinetic: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:23
dduckokinetic, sorry, kubuntu-desktop04:23
tOpEzzok04:23
tOpEzzwait04:23
irvintOpEzz: just add main restricted universe multiverse on you /etc/apt/sources.list deb lines04:23
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irvintOpEzz: then sudo apt-get update04:23
irvintOpEzz: then sudo apt-get install mplayer04:23
Chinamanheya brownman04:23
BrownManhi04:23
Chinamantell us the problem04:23
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Chinamanhaving trouble mounting, eh?04:24
BrownManSo I'm a first time user from Windows and I want to take my .mp3 songs from there to play on Ubuntu04:24
BrownManand from what I understand I have to mount my NTFS filesystem from Windows04:24
BrownManTo read it04:24
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SgeperAre there any precompiled packages with KQEMU?04:24
rajasunt0pEzz: enable multiverse in your sources.list then run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install mplayer-38604:24
bimberiBrownMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:24
Hobbsee!tell BrownMan about mount04:25
irvinBrownMan : yes you need to mount it04:25
kineticdducko, hobbsee: thank you both :)04:25
zovirlI have a process hanging on a disk problem ("media error (bad sector)")  How do I kill it?  Kill -9 doesn't work04:25
Mabus06OT: (23:22:03) Nick: how can I easily give directions to a windows computer noob in order for him to get his motherboard name and give it to me?04:25
Hobbseekinetic: no problem04:25
ttrygveBrownMan: and after that, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:25
irvinSgeper: sudo apt-cache search kqemu04:25
irvin;-)04:25
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kinetichobbsee: after it finishes installing i can just select kde from my sessions thinger before i log in?04:26
Hobbseeyep04:26
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BrownManGreat thanks04:26
kineticgotta love that linux04:26
BrownManI'm never going back to Windows04:26
lightbrightBrownMan: me either04:27
kinetici have a dual-boot04:27
irvinSgeper: there's qemu on universe tho04:27
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navaroneKinetic> yes, penguins are people too...just in evening wear04:27
DShepherdlol @ lightbright04:27
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RemmelasI have a problem with libs in /usr/local/lib, my programs can't seem to see them there, is there an easy fix?04:27
lightbrightrofl @ DShepherd04:27
kineticnavarone: lol04:27
FFighterHello all04:27
Chinamanlightbright, i still have to use Windows for 3D modeling and CAD04:27
kineticffighter: hello04:28
Chinamanso i have no choice BUT to use windows04:28
lightbrightChinaman: yeah04:28
kreatineremmelas update ur linker04:28
DShepherdI use windows for gaming mostly04:28
Chinamanand it's so much simpler to play games in Windows04:28
irvinChinaman: have you tried blender?04:28
lightbrightChinaman: use windows jyst for that and Linux for eveythging else :)04:28
navaroneChinman> I use it for Halo online and that's about it04:28
Chinamanyes i have irvin04:28
kinetici use windows for games mostly04:28
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lightbrightChinaman: irvin?04:28
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FFighterIm a Windows XP and Web Developer, got interested on Open Source trough the efforts of the guys @ osflash.org04:28
FFighterIm downloading the ubuntu 5.01 DVD04:28
Remmelaskreatine, I was thinking about it, but, since ld.so.conf seems to be completely missing, i wasn't sure if i could just create it, or if there was some other way this was handled in ubuntu04:28
lightbrightkinetic: get a xbox for games and uise Linux for everything else ;)04:28
thompawhy doesnt ubuntu automount the windows partition? just curious04:28
Chinamanlightbright, was talking to person above ye04:28
DShepherdI cant wait till they start making games with better linux support04:29
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lightbrightChinaman: ok :P04:29
Hobbseethompa: often, it does, during the install04:29
kreatinethompa maybe its not stup to automount?04:29
DShepherdps3 fan here!!04:29
kineticffighter isn't 5.10 the newest version?04:29
Chinamanirvin, i need Inventor 10, Autocad 2006 and 3ds max...04:29
lightbrightlol @ DShepherd04:29
Chinamanstandard formats for robotics team, gotta follow em04:29
FFighteroh yeah sorry kinetic, my mistake04:29
FFighter=P04:29
Kerrugh. finally got  ubuntu to install, but had to use the us utf-8 locale as nothing else worked, and mess about with broken dependancies everywhere, and gnome only works in failsafe, and the screen is grainy ~.~ Is this all because i ordered my breezy cds before breezy released and got some kind of betamax  editon?04:29
kineticlol "breezy badger"04:29
Chinamanlightbright: gaming on windows is much less of a hassle as well04:29
thompawell its not a big deal, i was just wondering why they decided against it.04:30
Chinamanno need for cedega04:30
DShepherdwhen the start making games more friendly with linux, people will have to pay me to work with windows :004:30
irvinChinaman: gfx aint my thing :-(04:30
DShepherd:)04:30
kineticdshepard: ditto04:30
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thompaeither for simplicity, protection or avoid litigation04:30
kreatineRemmelas google ld.so.conf u'll get plenty of info to nibble on :)04:30
Chinamanirvin, gfx aren't many people's strong point04:30
Chinamanso fret not04:30
FFighterIm very excited about getting my hands real dirty and hack it! Never used any flaver of Linux/Unix seriously before04:30
BrownManWhere is the commandline?04:30
ChinamanApplications -> Accessories -> Terminal04:31
kineticbeat me to it04:31
DShepherdFFighter: welcome to this side of the world. The grass is greener on this side04:31
Chinamanhaha04:31
Remmelaskreatine, appreciate it, like i said, i'm pretty comfortable creating it, just thought it odd that it was completely missing from my install, so didn't want to break some strange 'ubuntu-ism', i went ahead and created it, and updated, appreciate the info.04:31
FFighterYeah DShepherd! I was just thinking this way some minutes ago!04:31
DShepherdBrownMan: gnome or kde?04:32
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FFighterTHE FREEDOM TO DO EVERYTHING the way you want and to share it04:32
ajmitch_Filbert: just how much are you planning to hack it? :)04:32
FFighterits a feeling I never had before but Im starting to feel this need now04:32
ChinamanDShepherd, he's using Gnome04:32
ajmitch_s/filbert/FFighter/04:32
DShepherdFFighter: that's so beautiful... I going to cry04:32
Mabus06OT:  how can I easily give directions to a windows computer noob in order for him to get his motherboard name and give it to me?04:32
DShepherdi;m*04:32
FFighter:D04:32
lightbrightFFighter: seek not just liberty, seek also personal and inner freedom04:32
kreatineRemmelas ur guess is my guess :) i've been using ubuntu for 3 days dont know if they have a special linker scheme, i doubt it :)04:32
Chinamanmabus06, make him boot into windows and run CPU-Z04:33
lightbrightFFighter: freedom from conformity04:33
navaroneMabus> or tell him to open box and peek inside...;)04:33
DShepherdlol @ lightbright. you a poet? :)04:33
Chinamanthat too04:33
kineticmabus06 : hes using windows??? if so have him try installing SANDRA04:33
kreatineRemmelas i doubt they would go as far as implementing a different scheme, no point :)04:33
Remmelaskreatine, hehe, i've been using it for about 3 weeks, came from linuxfromscratch to this... i guess if i break it it's a lot easier to back out than custom builds04:33
BrownManuhhhhh04:33
DShepherdlightbright: *ubuntu turns men into poets*04:33
BrownMancan someone take a look at what my commandline means04:34
Mabus06without installing things, Chinaman, kinetic? Isn't there some basic thing in control panel or something?04:34
Chinamankinetic: downloading CPU-Z is a lot faster04:34
kreatineRemmelas me 2 from lfs :)04:34
FFighterLOL04:34
FFighter:D04:34
DShepherdDShepherd: women too04:34
lightbrightDShepherd: may I ask your age pls?04:34
ChinamanMabus06, no04:34
FFighterubuntu has a very beutiful philosophy04:34
kineticchinaman: true i use both04:34
DShepherdlightbright: yes you may04:34
lightbrightDShepherd: ok tell me04:34
FFighterthat was the main thing that attracted me to this dist04:34
ChinamanControl Panel doesn't have anything that detects motherboards04:34
germancitoHello!!04:34
Mabus06you guys are shitting me...04:34
kinetic?04:34
lightbrightwhats the guys name that started ubuntu again?04:34
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ajmitch_Mabus06: excuse me?04:35
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navaroneShuttleworth04:35
ClayGSome African Tribal Minister04:35
ClayGYeah Ubuntu Shuttleworth04:35
kreatinewhy am i constantly getting this message ? [22:34]  *** kreatine: you need to be a channel operator to do that04:35
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Kerranyoe who cares: why was installing ubuntu like pulling teeth, did i offend it somehow? shouldn't it Just Work (TM)? Why is it still horribly broken?04:35
kreatinei'm not doing anything :)04:35
bigr1951how do u download and then install04:35
DShepherdlightbright: 2 decades and 204:35
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lightbrightnavarone: do you have an idea what is Shuttleworth's Spiritual beliefs?  is he a Christian or buddhist or ?04:35
navaroneClayG> It's the same guy who recently paid to go into space04:35
lightbrightDShepherd: hmm I thought you were younger, a lot younger :P04:35
ClayGThe Nsync kid?04:35
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FFighterI plan to move all my work to Linux gradually (well, most of it) ... I think Linux kind of forces you to know things that can be really useful later.. Windows kind of hide it04:36
j813Hi guys04:36
kineticKerr: did you do the default install or an expert?04:36
ClayGbut seriously I think I know who you speak off04:36
ClayGis he an old white guy with white hair?04:36
DShepherdlightbright: I thought you were a big thinker. think bigger!!04:36
rajasunkreatine: probably due to some scripts you have in your irc client04:36
lightbrightClayG: he is bold04:36
navaronelightbright> I'm not in touch with Mr. S's spiritual beliefs...but I'll try him on Astral Gaim (tm) :)04:36
ClayGbold?04:36
lightbrightnavarone:  thanks :)04:36
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j813how can I enable mp3 here in 5.10?04:36
ClayGBold as in ideas and motivated?04:36
lightbrightClayG: Bald04:36
kreatineffighter not really, linux is point and click as well most of the time :)04:36
ClayGoh sorry04:36
DShepherdlightbright: now may I ask how much decades have you seen?04:36
lightbrightClayG: as in not much hair on top :P04:37
Kerrkinetic: expert, as i needed to manually partition; i'm installing alongside a corrupt etch/sid install.04:37
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lightbrightbut planty in sides04:37
Chinamanj813:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:37
kreatineits at a point where you dont have to learn anything if you dont want to :)04:37
lightbrightDShepherd: 404:37
j813thanks China04:37
ClayGWell, give him my thanks, ubuntu is the only distro that I feel comfortable dumping doze for04:37
thompais there a way to keep kde desktop icons from being broken in ubuntu desktop?04:37
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DShepherdlightbright: kool... you are very mature04:37
ClayGeven though , and I'd hate to say this here, the apps on doze seems to run faster04:37
irvinClayG: www.markshuttleworth.com04:37
lightbrightDShepherd: and wise :)04:38
navaroneClayg> except for small mouse issue...and eventually installing nvidia drivers...my install was painless04:38
lightbrightDShepherd: want to read my story?04:38
kineticKerr: im not familiar with etch/sid (kinda n00b myself)04:38
ClayGOh my install was flawless04:38
bigr1951is there a place i can get help in just the basics of ubuntu04:38
ClayGbut on another box it wasn't04:38
thompai noticed as soon as i installed kubuntu-desktop that thre is now a trash icon in gnome04:38
ClayGbut the apt-get is something that is a godsend04:38
ClayGfor me at least04:38
ttrygvelike what, bigr1951?04:38
lightbrightDShepherd: http://www.eternaljoy.pfwh.net/  <--- And Click on ABOUT for my story :)04:38
navaronethompa> I think there always was a trash icon in gnome04:38
ttrygvethere's a "Getting Started" guide04:38
ClayGI have had to compile a package or two, and I'm able but wouldnt bet I could do it 10 times and 10 times have no hitches04:38
FFighterI also work with .NET framework... Is mono stable enough to offer a quality fw as .NET is?04:39
Kerrkinetic: debian, my debian install broke; a bad crash ate up some core libs, i tried to repair it but failed; had an ubuntu cd handy.04:39
ClayGbut apt-get is awsome, the support is great04:39
kreatineone problem i've noticed in GNOME and maybe someone can answer, if you connect to a samba server you get a link to it on your desktop and thre is no way to freakin remove that link!@!04:39
thompanavarone: oh, well now the icon is missing04:39
ClayGirc included!04:39
FFighterGot into Eclipse and Java too! Im expading my mind :)04:39
ClayGNot alot of those "Google it" or "man it"'ers04:39
lightbrightClayG: try aptitude too04:39
tOpEzzstill cannot04:39
navaronethompa> are you in gnome enviro now or boot into kde?04:39
tOpEzzuwaaaaaaaaaaa04:39
bigr1951I am not a computer person but i downloaded things but dont know what to do to install as in windows04:39
thompanavarone: obviously i cant have icons in the 2 different desktops04:39
ClayGpeople that are so quick to tell you to google it, but when you google it you find a bunch of forums results of people asking questions and others saying to google it04:39
ClayGlol04:39
thompaim in gnome04:39
ClayGwhy not answer it and create another result for the next guy that does google it04:40
DShepherdlightbright: wow.. you wrote all that?04:40
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FFighterLOL ClayG04:40
kineticCould someone more weatherinf w/ linux help Kerr?04:40
thompanavarone: if i create a launcher in gnome what happens in kde desktop?04:40
lightbrightDShepherd: indeed I did :)04:40
ClayGand I may be slow but the syntax in the man pages aren't the easiest to understand04:40
thompaand visa versa04:40
DShepherdk04:40
kineticweathered*04:40
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navaronethompa> I dunno...I am pure gnome04:40
DShepherdlightbright: kool04:40
lightbrightDShepherd: and I wrote my story to share04:40
FFighterthank you for the warm welcome!04:40
ClayGDOS's /? seemed alot easier and the type of language I understand04:40
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DShepherdlightbright: job well done04:40
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lightbrightDShepherd: my story has appeared in magazine04:40
FFighterI currently downloading the DVD trough BitTOrrent04:40
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lightbrightDShepherd: thank you :)04:40
DShepherdlightbright: sweet04:41
zdennishey all...i am having no luck with the latest linux-image-kernel-2.6.12-10-k704:41
ClayGbut I love how in the unice's cli you can multitask04:41
thompanavarone: i think there is a way to create 2 different desktop initiate folders04:41
lightbrightDShepherd: do you share some views?04:41
ClayGand I heard that that has been possible for quite some time04:41
odinI just installed ubuntu..  I don't remember setup asking me for a root password..  Is it defaulted?04:41
holycowFFighter, there are a LOT of frameworks out there04:41
zdennisi get a kernel panic when rebooting....but all of my other kernels work fine04:41
FFighterprobally tomorrow I will be installing it ...04:41
ClayGin dos the program had to allow it04:41
zdennisanyone else seen issues with the latest 2.6.12-10 update?04:41
holycow.net is a drop in the bucket ... mostly in it not really being a framwork04:41
DShepherdlightbright: *reading your story* will talk to you soon04:41
ClayGI think the first one that I saw to allow you to drop to dos was telemate a pretty cool modem software04:41
holycowbut a way to sandbox apps/framworks04:41
kineticAll : have a good night and gl all04:41
ttrygvewell, bigr1951, I'm not sure what to tell you without more specific questions, but this might be a good place to start: http://help.ubuntu.com/04:41
lightbrightDShepherd:  ok :)04:41
kineticbye04:41
navaronethompa> I am certain that the desktops keep their configs and such seperate by design04:41
holycowFFighter, google is your friend and welcome to linux :)04:41
FFighterholycow: Could you point me to good developer sites about Linux Development and related stuff?04:41
ClayGor maybe it was qmodem, either way mulitasking pre-windows days was few and far in between04:42
holycowFFighter, google.com04:42
holycowseriously04:42
ClayGHahah04:42
FFighteror recommend some books?04:42
holycowits such a big topic i cannto begin to fathom where you would start04:42
snausageslightbright, if I wanna do a test burn in l3b, do I select the "Simulate" checkbox?04:42
FFighterwas hoping for that answer04:42
Comrade_Vladimirok heres what i found on my usb problem    it works on the primary account (my flash drive) but not my own account though my account is also an admin account04:42
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snausagesk3b*04:42
FFighter:D04:42
holycowstart with researching mono, and go from there04:42
navaroneFFighter> Linux Desk Reference by Scot Hawkings04:42
FFighterIm going to google for it04:42
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thompanavarone:  well changing one will give you pictureless icons on the other thats for sure04:42
holycowFFighter, well at first you will be overwhelmed by choice04:42
Comrade_Vladimirim on my account now04:43
thompanavarone:  no big deal though04:43
holycowthis isn't microsoft, meaning there are many many ways to do many  many things04:43
holycownot just the ms way04:43
FFighterIs mono comparable to Java on cross-platform habilities?04:43
tdwyerGot a question.  The Evolution email program keeps crashing on start up04:43
holycowsecondly, what are you building, what do you need04:43
tdwyerany one know why?04:43
zdennisFFighter, no04:43
holycoweach type of problem requires a different toolset04:43
bigr1951how do u get a one-on-one chat04:43
FFighteryeah... makes sense, with freedom comes more responsabiliti and possibilities04:43
holycowlastly, my bias is to NEVER EVER put a windows box on the net, even behind a linux/bsd box04:44
FFighterdo you really think so holycow?04:44
holycowdevelop on open servers, deliver to any client is the general approach i take, but that really is only germaine to my problem set04:44
FFighterI still like Windows for its DirectX framework.. I like to write games sometimes as a hobby04:44
FFighterGotta start using BlitzMax04:44
holycowFFighter, i work mostly on corporate stuff no games so that problem set nicely dices it self into client/server architectures04:45
Comrade_Vladimiranyone  usb know it all here?04:45
navaroneBigrl951> are you using xchat?04:45
holycowgames are different04:45
holycowi.e. my approach really is only meant for me04:45
bigr1951yes04:45
holycowpoke around see what you like its a big world :)04:45
Comrade_Vladimirok heres what i found on my usb problem    it works on the primary account (my flash drive) but not my own account though my account is also an admin account04:46
holycowFFighter, in general from people that dev games, game dev is a wee bit easier on win, but you loose portability04:46
holycowon linux its a wee bit harder but you generally gain portability if you use the right tools04:46
FFighteryeah... I think all these years ONLY using Windows boxes have blinded me somehow04:46
holycowbut thats a gross oversimplification04:46
DShepherdlightbright: wow.. you have been thru alot..04:46
FFighterthanks for the attention holycow04:47
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FFighterAre you always around here?04:47
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holycowFFighter, they have, five it time, no one here really preaches linux for everything, it just seems that way because you haveto shout hard to get heard over top of ms lies04:47
holycowtheres a place for everything04:47
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holycowgive it time i mean04:47
DShepherdlightbright: very inspiring story...04:48
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FFighterNow Im really feeling the real meaning of the Open Source philosophy04:48
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morphixis there a openssl dev package?04:48
bpasdarAnyone having problems with evolution on Breezy?04:49
lightbrightDShepherd: thank you kindly04:49
lightbrightbpasdar: it works fine with me04:49
DShepherdlightbright: sure... no need to thank me though04:49
holycowFFighter :) its about freedom and sharing, the worth of it will become self evident after you have done enough research and tooled around a bit04:49
lightbrightDShepherd: ok04:49
holycowFFighter, no one has to actually sell it, all anyone really needs to say is try it and decide for your self04:49
DShepherdlightbright: so what have you been doing with your life now?04:49
bpasdarlightbright: ever since the last apt-get update I cant keep it up for more than two minutes without crashing04:49
lightbrightbpasdar: what update?04:50
holycowlightbright, what story? tha site looks like jesus propaganda04:50
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lightbrightDShepherd:  im moving into full time ministry and evangelism04:50
lightbrightsorry foilks off topic04:51
FFighterI had a different concept about it all... it was when I installed Eclipse to start doing Open Source Flash development with MTASC (do you know it?) that I started change my ideas about it04:51
navaroneholycow> I can see linux being used for all kinds of things...but I think it would really shine as a hub for your music and other household entertainment needs. Even my crappy Kinyo speakers sound great. I can imagine what surround sound could do...<drool>04:51
unique311hello04:51
FFighterEclipse is damn good dev enviroment04:51
DShepherdlightbright: ok kool04:51
yannzHello, does ubuntu have a repository in which quakeforge can be found? :)04:51
FFighterdid not know it was so cool04:51
bpasdarlightbright: I believe the standard package updates available as of this morning.04:51
lightbrightholycow: Truth is never dependent upon the consensus of opinion :)04:51
holycowmtasc? never heard of it but i shall be googling it :)04:51
germancitohello unique31104:51
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lightbrightholycow: and that's your personal opinion, yet it doesn't mean your opinion is correct or true. :)04:51
FFighterwww.mtasc.org04:51
holycowlightbright, likewise04:51
lightbrightbpasdar: ah ok04:51
FFighterIts a Open Source ActionScript2 Compiler04:51
lightbrightholycow:  indeed works for me also04:51
holycownavarone, its a rapidly morphing environment04:52
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lightbrightholycow: it works for me, maybe not for you04:52
holycownavarone, maybe a year ago i would of agreed but as of gnome 2.10 wow04:52
holycownavarone, i am starting to deploy it as a desktop in some specific demographics04:52
unique311i think this issue is off topic, but i am running ubuntu on one of my machines, so here we go, i have 2 machines on a router, but i can't ping neither one from each other..04:52
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bpasdarlightbright: I had similar probs with kmail.  Alas I seem to be the only one.  Everything works PURRRFECT for everyone else :(04:52
holycowi have a bunch of pilots out there infact ....04:52
lightbrightbpasdar: yeah works perfect for me04:52
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unique311how do i set it up so that i can ping the machines from each other.04:52
lightbrightbpasdar: maybe user error?04:53
navaroneholycow> I think Linux has already made inroads...from web servers to now being used in embeded devices and kiosk type businesses04:53
bpasdarlightbright: Breezy?04:53
lightbrightbpasdar: I use breezy yes from scratch04:53
holycownavarone, well webservers is not a good example04:53
FFighteris anyone here, besides me, using Windows right now?04:53
holycowits windows that is making inroads there04:53
DShepherdFFighter: I am using windows now04:53
holycowlinux has always owned the net along with bsd04:53
ChinamanFFighter, me04:53
bpasdarlightbright: maybe?  Layer 8 -- I'll have to fire myself and hire a new me :)04:53
morphixFFighter, i am.. i'm multitasking winxp + ubuntu04:53
DShepherdFFighter: I getting paid to use it04:53
lightbrightbpasdar:  :)04:53
holycowafter about 92 anyway i would say04:53
thompai went through the steps to mount my windows partition,  but why dows hda1 show only windows files?04:54
bigr1951would anyone chat with me one on one for the basics04:54
j813where can change my NVidia video card settings, or change Video card drivers?04:54
navaroneholycow> I meant from being the de facto web server software to diversification as needs change and markets shift04:54
holycowthe servers are easy, the desktop is hard because the problem set is not neatly defined04:54
bpasdarlightbright: THANK YOU for trying!04:54
typewriterim using KDE... my video card on 24bit color cant run higher than 800x600.. but on 16bit it can... i rather run 16bit then... how can i run it on 16bit and force it to use the highest resolution possible?04:54
holycownavarone, ah *nod*04:54
lightbrightbpasdar: sorry couldnt help04:54
thompain file system: media i have an empty windows folder also04:54
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DShepherdthompa: what do you mean only windows files?04:54
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SoulPropagationhow do i get compositing to start with X in breezy?04:55
FFighterWhat partition would be common to both WIndows and Linux, I mean, if I would create one to share files beetwen the 2 OS04:55
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FFighterpartition format04:55
SoulPropagationFFighter: fat3204:55
SoulPropagationFFighter: aka vfat04:55
thompaDShepherd: i guess hda1 is only windows partition?04:55
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navaroneFFighter...fat 32 can both read and write t04:55
SoulPropagationnavarone: lil slow there eh? ;)04:56
navaroneSoul> getting old...04:56
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Chinamannavarone, that's what i'm using for storing stuff on the 20GB I have04:56
DShepherdthompa: ok.. well, do you have a question?04:56
thompaDShepherd: but then in media i have hda1 folder and an empty windows folder04:56
thompaDShepherd:  whats the windows folder for and how can i delete it?04:56
FFighternice to meet you all04:57
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FFighterleaving now04:57
FFighterthanks for the warm reception04:57
DShepherdthompa: well its not ther by default so you must have created it... when you were doing the steps04:57
SoulPropagationhow do i get compositing to start with X in breezy? setting it to priority 0 doesn't do it04:57
snausageslightbright, i just wanted to let you know, i just burned an iso successfully, no errors. it may have been the cd-rs04:57
morphixis there a openssl dev package?04:58
navaroneChinaman> I installed ubuntu after installing new drive. I left enough free space for ubuntu to use and have two ntfs Partions (unused yet) a fat32 partiton on new drive and another smaller fat 32 on primary drive with win2k which I use for transfer of files to windows if I dl music in linux.04:58
thompaDShepherd: hmm, no i created media/hda104:58
DShepherdthompa: it is not neccessary and can be deleted...sudo rmdir <foldername>04:58
thompaSTRANGE04:58
thompaok thanks04:58
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holycowFFighter, see ya around04:59
Chinamannavarone: i use the fat32 drive to store CD images, movies, photos/pictures and music04:59
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Chinamani'm getting a new comp soon that's gonna be 20GB Linux and 120GB Windows with 20GB left over for transferring stuff between the two OSes04:59
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Spaciouswhy use Linux over Windows?05:00
morphixjust use linux totally :P05:00
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Chinamanfor looking at pr0n!05:00
navaroneChina> I had prob with linux p2p not saving files in designated folder on fat32. Turned out to be a permission prob... could not write to Music folder as I was not creator/owner. So I made a folder in same drive while in ubuntu and transfer files to that and then retransfer to final folder when in windows05:00
DShepherdthompa: if you want to recreate it just sudo mkdir <foldername>05:00
mark__is ubuntu supposed to automatically mount external usb hard drives?05:01
Chinamanactually, it's more for downloading and keeping CPU usage minimum05:01
Spaciousmorphix, but doesnt linux have a lot of multimedia issues, compatiblity and speed problems?05:01
Spaciousim using windows05:01
morphixSpacious, not that i know of lopl05:01
morphixlol*05:01
thompaDShepherd:  i removed it, its fine, thanks05:01
morphixonly prob atm is gaming05:01
Chinamannavarone: i haven't tried saving P2P stuff to a FAT32 from Ubuntu yet05:01
morphixcedega fixes that but not ALL games work.05:01
Spaciousmorphix, so you're using ubuntu05:01
Chinamanbut...i can always try05:01
Chinamanmorphix: that's why i still have windows05:01
Chinamangotta get my dose of speed...the need for speed05:02
Chinamanmost wanted of course05:02
Chinamanheh05:02
DShepherdSpacious: have you ever used a linux distro?05:02
navaroneChina> if the folders on the fat32 partion have a little padlock on them then you acn look but not write to them05:02
DShepherdthompa: ok kool have fun05:02
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morphixSpacious, i have winxp corp on this pc.. and i have another pc with ubuntu on it.05:02
SpaciousDShepherd, ive used ubuntu and slackware before along with xandros...but i felt that i was missing something05:02
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Spaciousmorphix, is there any need to additionally secure a linux box?05:02
Chinamannavarone, i wrote 4 CD images to the FAT32 without probs05:02
Spaciousmorphix, like are there any settings that you can tweak like in windows05:02
Spaciousto make it more secure05:03
ChinamanSpacious: security? what's that?05:03
morphixwindows = unsecured from the start05:03
morphixlinux = everything secured/closed up from start.05:03
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DShepherdmorphix: he said more secure..so its relative to the start05:03
Spaciousmorphix, what about if im running a server?  what do i need to do to secure linux?05:03
Chinamanindeed it is05:03
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Spaciousmorphix, i see all these guides on the internet about linux antivirus and how to secure linux, etc05:03
Chinamannesseus infection scanning stuff and then firestarter firewall05:03
Chinamandon't know what else you can get05:03
holycowSpacious, that is a big question05:04
Chinamanpretty much, you can't get killed when you're in linux05:04
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holycowthe general answer is that you need a lot of expertice to properly lock down any web server05:04
dduckoAntivirus is mostly for scannin windows files05:04
SpaciousChinaman, i thought that the reason linux has virtually no viruses was because MS has like all the market$hare05:04
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Spaciousbimberi, i am05:04
Chinamanthere's been 3 viruses/worms/junk that has EVER existed05:04
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ChinamanSpacious: another reason is that it's a lot harder to write for LInux05:04
B_166-ER-X3 virus for Nux, millions for Win05:04
B_166-ER-Xwow05:04
sriChinaman: dude, linux can be hacked.05:04
Chinamanyes it can be05:05
holycowSpacious, no, it has all the viruses primarily because their users at taught that any moron can be an administrator ... and they all believe that running as root is acceptable05:05
B_166-ER-XVirus on windoze, are like replicators in SG105:05
Chinamanholycow, true05:05
DShepherdsri: yes it can, but not very easy though05:05
srigetting someone to run rm -rf $HOME will be just as annoying as getting a virus :)05:05
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Chinamanlol05:05
Spaciousholycow, so there is no way to further secure linux....like if i have a job as a linux sysadmin05:05
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Spaciousor something05:05
holycowsri, at least they wont end up deleting all of c: that way05:06
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srino, but it's still leaves them without their data05:06
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sriand thats probably just as emotionally devestating as having their own machine screwed.05:06
DShepherdsri: and you have admin privileges to run such a command05:06
sribesides, it's likelye veryone will use the same account05:06
ubuntu#cebu05:06
sriI don't need admin privs to run rm -rf /home/sri05:06
holycowSpacious, oh there is, i'm simply trying to frame the question for you, security in general is a field of study and expertice all on it's own.  in order to properly research security measures for your application you need to approach it with the big picture in mind05:06
ChinamanSpacious, you can always set up a Clam AntiVirus Server05:07
Chinamanor use the OpenSource AV program05:07
DShepherdsri: externally yes, internally no..05:07
holycowwith that being said, you can start with some of the basics that you can google up, particularly the debian security documentation if you are running debianized servers05:07
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holycowfrom there some form of certification would be recommended, at least by me05:07
SpaciousChinaman, im just new to linux and am afraid that i will not be able to learn fast enough....i assumed that linux was secure by default...n stuff.  im only 15 so i dont know too much...i spent nearly all my time on windows05:07
SoulPropagationsri: chmod 0744 /bin/rm ;)05:07
DShepherdsri: but in your example.. that;s not a virus... that just being silly05:07
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Chinamanand Spacious, there's nothing better than curiosity05:08
Chinamani started using Ubuntu this year05:08
holycowindeed05:08
Chinamanprobably about 3 months ago05:08
Chinamanit's been great05:08
Chinamanno viruses, no spyware05:08
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Liketoh holy fucking shit!!05:08
Liketliket@server:~$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda05:08
navaroneOnly bout a month for me05:08
Liket Timing buffered disk reads:  1224 MB in  3.00 seconds = 407.79 MB/sec05:08
OphiocusSpacious, give it a shot, dual boot ubuntu in your win machine05:08
Liketthis HAS to be some kind of a record :)05:08
holycowChinaman, nice, what is your previous experience? what do you use your desktop for?05:08
DShepherdSpacious: dont worry, Linux is not a black box, like some OSes I know..05:08
SpaciousDShepherd, black box?05:08
Chinamanholycow: i typically used windows...tried mandrake a bit and didn't like it05:09
DShepherdlol @ Spacious05:09
Chinamani still use a lot of windows for CAD and 3D modeling05:09
holycowChinaman, mandrake has always been bugy *nod*05:09
Chinamanplus the occasional LAN05:09
holycowah indeed, cool05:09
Chinamanor online halo game05:09
holycowyour a cad fella? not like the maya/xsi type of stuff?05:09
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morphixmy only reason i wont go fully over to linux.. is the gaming side of things.05:09
morphixi always game.05:10
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Chinamanholycow, i work with 3ds max, Inventor and Autocad05:10
DShepherdSpacious: black box = something that works.. but  you dont know how it works05:10
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holycowChinaman, neat05:10
DShepherdSpacious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box <-- read05:10
SpaciousDShepherd, yeah i really want to learn the internals of linux...like the back of my hand05:10
holycowChinaman, alias bought maya, perhaps they will one day consider max and cad on linux05:10
Chinamaner...05:10
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morphixAlias Wavefront Maya05:10
ChinamanAutodesk bought Alias...which owned Maya05:10
morphix:)05:10
DShepherdSpacious: how well do you know the back of your hand :)?05:11
drcodeany one know what is udev?05:11
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Chinamanholycow: hopefully...but 3ds max still requires D3D to run05:11
drcodeI have strange thing that the route add I put disapper after 10 min05:12
holycowoh i forgot05:12
drcodeany idea?05:12
holycowi havent run that since 2.505:12
drcodeI use breezy05:12
holycowChinaman, oh actually it doesn't matter05:12
holycowso does xsi05:12
SpaciousDShepherd, pretty damn well05:12
Chinamano.005:12
morphixd3d can me wrapped into linux api's :)05:12
holycowthere is a company that can port all of that and make it work via emulation libraries05:12
holycowi forget the name, but softimage did it05:12
Chinamani tried winex on 3ds max, autocad and inventor...05:13
Chinamannothing worked05:13
DShepherdSpacious: well your on your way then. What do you use your windows machine for?05:13
holycowbelieve it or not, they actually porte msie as well for xsi, as it uses that internally for some shit05:13
Ophiocus<= sees a new wrinkle on the back of his hand and ponders "one new every day"05:13
SpaciousDShepherd, general stuff, but i thought i was generally secure under windows...i followed the NSAs advice05:13
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DShepherdOphiocus: lol05:13
SpaciousDShepherd, web browsing, email, lol05:13
morphixmicroshaft uses linux to compile their windows systems.. how ironic05:13
Corrupterwhat is evolution data server?05:13
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holycowChinaman, thats a wee bit different, this company does app specific ports, but anyways its a moot point.  al i'm saying is that if softimage can so can max, both have shitty windows based architecture05:13
ChinamanSpacious...if you don't play games or do crazy stuff with 3D, just use Linux05:13
kevogod_morphix, Where did you hear this?05:13
eMBeegood evening05:14
SoulPropagationmorphix: that's probably a load of crap05:14
Chinamanlol holycow05:14
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navaroneSpacious> I wouls use ubuntu for online activities that do not require windows and use windows for games and such05:14
OphiocusSpacious, tried firefox?05:14
SoulPropagationof course, windows is a descendent of unix05:14
Chinamanhalf the people don't need Windows....05:14
Chinamanthey can go use Linux and it won't make a difference05:14
holycowactually you can do 3d in linux, blender is more powerfull than most hobbyists can handle05:14
DShepherdSpacious: ok.. well try a dual boot, trust me will learn alot05:14
Chinamanholycow, not used to how blender starts out with 1 viewport05:15
holycowif your not a 3d hobbyist paying 150$ for a windows licence is nothing in comparison to 3d licencing05:15
SpaciousOphiocus, yeah its nice05:15
holycowChinaman, you can change that05:15
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Chinamani know05:15
SpaciousDShepherd, ok05:15
DShepherdSpacious: *you will learn alot05:15
Chinamanbut the huge toolbars...scare me05:15
navaroneSpacious> if you want to dual boot you can install grub in floppy and leave mbr alone... taht is what i did. So you need to use floppy to get to linux and no-one else may know that another os resides in the recessses of the drive05:15
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Chinamani'd much rather have the layout 3ds max and Autocad have05:16
holycowChinaman, *nod* ui is very different indeed05:16
eMBeeanyone have an idea what could cause that?05:16
holycowphotoshop users simple cannot unlearn ps i have discovered as well05:16
Chinamanlol05:16
DShepherdnavarone: kool05:16
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Ophiocusnavarone, s got a point, not even windows will notice05:16
holycow*shrug* whatever suits ones needs tho :)05:16
DShepherdI need to try that05:16
Corrupteranybody know what evolution data server is? and do i need it?05:16
ChinamanI use Gimp on Windows05:16
Chinamanhaha05:17
holycow Corrupter you need it for evolution05:17
Corrupterand if i don't use evolution?05:17
holycowevolution uses it to send/recieve/organize data05:17
Chinamaneven though i do have a bootleg PSCS2 somewhere in the room....05:17
DShepherdChinaman: gimp on windows has probs05:17
holycowCorrupter, *hmmm* i don't think you need it then, but something in the back of my head says something uses it05:17
ChinamanDshepherd, I haven't tried making texture maps with it yet05:17
Chinamanso dn't really know05:17
holycowi would say do apt-get revmoe -s appname and see what it all tries to uninstall05:17
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holycow-s means simulate05:17
Chinamanbut it did already crash on me once...05:17
holycowif its nuffin, remove it05:18
Chinamanprobably because of windows instability05:18
Chinamanlol05:18
Corrupterwell it's taking up 63 MB of system RAM, so i want it dead05:18
slewhi, is there any way that linux will display a .com file?05:18
Corrupterif i remove it, will anything crash?05:18
DShepherdChinaman: crashes on me alot.. maybe :)05:18
Chinamanlol05:18
holycowslew, what is a .com file?05:18
Chinamanthat's what i was gonna ask05:18
Corruptera windows command file05:18
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Chinamano.005:18
Corruptercommand.com05:18
slewholycow, its an old school [dos era]  program05:18
holycowso its what? like a batch file? text file?05:18
Corrupternone of you ever used DOS???05:19
Chinamantry opening it with nano?05:19
slewno, not command.com05:19
Corrupteri was using an example05:19
slewahh05:19
navaroneCorrupter> that memory usage may only be virtual memory05:19
Chinamancorrupter, i wasn't old enough to know what DOS was XD05:19
holycowsounds like a text file yeah try nano or gedit05:19
slewcause i think command.com would die under linux =] 05:19
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Corrupteri was born when people were using DOS, but i still KNOW about it05:19
slewnano is a text editor, right?05:19
holycowotherwise you will either need an editor that supports it (google is your friend) or a hex editor :)05:19
Chinamanyep05:19
Chinamancommandline based05:19
slewi was using dos when you were in dipers =] 05:19
Chinamanlol05:20
Corrupterwell, virtual memory and RAM are all the same, less space = faster progress05:20
slewChinaman, then nano wont work. thanks though. =]  maybe just use wine.05:20
DShepherdslew:lol05:20
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ashwaniaimaz hi05:20
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ashwanipepsil HI05:20
Chinamanslew, you could try using gedit05:20
ashwanipepsil : can you help me using CUPS05:20
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slewChinaman, is gedit a text editor?05:20
germancitohello05:20
holycowsledge__, yes, under apps/accessories05:21
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DShepherdslew yes05:21
Chinamanslew, yes it is05:21
holycowi mean slew, oh hell05:21
holycowheh05:21
ChinamanApplications -> Accesories -> Text Editor05:21
slewagain, a text editor is not what i need. this is an executable file, made around 199605:21
germancitoplease, anyone can tell me were i can fin the file that contains the configuration the applications menu in Gnome??05:21
Chinamanoh05:21
SoulPropagationslew: hexedit05:21
slew=] 05:21
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Chinamani'm off guys05:22
Chinamangoodnight05:22
holycowslew, so you want to execute it?05:22
slewthanks Chinaman have a good holiday05:22
holycowthen you have only a couple of options?05:22
Chinamanthanksgiving day tomorrow...gotta eat some food05:22
slewholycow, yeah, kinda05:22
Chinamanwee05:22
holycowrun windows under vmware05:22
burneranyone know how to fix it so that the "winkey" can be a modifier?  right now if I try to use it as a keyboard shortcut, it won't let me press another key with it05:22
holycowyou tried wine05:22
slewabout to try wine now05:22
holycowyou can try running windows under winforlin which is like vmware05:22
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holycowslew, there just may be a dos emulator out there05:22
j813guys where can i change my monitor & video card settigns? here in 5.10 :)05:23
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sriwinforlin is not free right?05:23
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holycowi've never bothered looking such a thing up, but google dos emu's perhaps you wiill be lucky05:23
drcodehi all05:23
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holycowotherwise that exe is not getting executed05:23
srij813: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I believe05:23
srij813: you need to do it in a shell.05:23
j813oh05:23
drcodewhen I do dpkg -l | I see "rc  taper" wht is rc?05:23
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thompain gnome the desktop icons are coming from usr/share/ pixmaps05:23
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thompaso if i create a desktop shortcut in kde its blank in gnome05:24
typewriterwhat exactly is the multi-verse i see universe in source.list and backports not no multiverse?05:24
slewnaw just too old for wine. i'll just load up windows. thanks =] 05:24
lightbrightbye everyne! see you soon :)  God bless05:24
j813sri: how do I open shell?05:25
thompais there a way to keep the kde desktop icons?05:25
thompaif i change or create one in gnome?05:25
burnerj813, alt+f2, gnome-terminal05:25
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j813:)05:26
bimberitypewriter: multiverse is for non-free or legally questionable software05:26
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germancitono one knows where that file is??05:28
typewriterhow do i get it in my sources.list?05:28
Wallahello05:29
bimberitypewriter: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 has a sample sources.list with it included05:30
holycowhttp://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1994-21.html  <-- heh, offtopic but i wonder if it is true05:30
Hobbseetypewriter: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:30
j813why cant I authenticate in terminal?05:30
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joftis there any way i can force apt to get everything that it needs for dependencies?05:30
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crimsunjoft: that happens by default.05:31
fletch33what is my best package choice for ripping cd's to mp305:31
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jofti try apt-get -f install and it still has a list of about 10 things with dependency problems that it can't fix05:32
crimsunjoft: what did you break?05:32
jofti tried upgrading to breezy and i've been having problems all day05:32
joftwith nvidia, now applications giving me "segmentation fault"05:32
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crimsunjoft: so you altered sources.list, updated, and dist-upgraded?05:33
joftand apt having cyclic dependency problems05:33
j813Guys why can't I authenticate as root? I didn't see a place to enter a PW when I was installing05:33
fletch33anyone have a suggestion for the best program to rip cd's to mp305:33
crimsun!root05:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:33
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joftcrimsun: i accidentally did upgrade before dist-upgrade05:33
crimsunjoft: doesn't matter, dist-upgrade is what you need05:33
joftand i had backports in my sources.list at the time if that did anything05:33
crimsunjoft: backports should be disabled before updating05:34
jofti've tried both, right now even -f upgrade and -f dist-upgrade won't fix it05:34
crimsunjoft: _and_ you should remove _all_ backports05:34
joftthey're gone now05:34
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crimsunso what is the dist-upgraded hitching on?05:34
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crimsunuse paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:34
BROKEN_LADDERToday, Google Video is a motley mix: clips of monkeys performing karate and robot dogs attacking iguanas. Tomorrow? No one knows, but everyone is worried.05:34
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jofthttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/496505:36
GodAnyone know how to install OpenGL Quick?05:36
dirksonHey all. I'm getting this error (libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) on quite a few SDL apps... I get an analogous error with OpenAL too... Anyone have any clues on what I should be checking out?05:36
joftcrimsun: that was with -f05:37
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ashwaniashwani hi05:37
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ashwanihighvoltage hi05:38
gar-how i can install kdebase on ubuntu 5.04?????05:38
ashwanihighvoltage can you help me using CUPS05:38
crimsunjoft: do you have the breezy-security and breezy-updates repos enabled, too?05:38
ashwanicrimsun can you help me using CUPS05:39
Mabus06!cups05:39
ubotuMabus06: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:39
joftyes05:39
gar-!kdebase05:40
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, gar-05:40
gar-lol05:40
bimberidirkson: do a contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com for that file and install the relevant package05:40
gar-how i can install kdebase on ubuntu 5.04?????05:40
joftexcept I just realized all the source package lines are commented out05:40
joftshould I uncomment them?05:40
crimsunashwani: no, I can't. Sorry.05:40
dirksonBimberi: That's the crazy thing. It IS installed, and works fine for about half of SDL games05:40
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freakazoid333gar run synaptic05:40
crimsunjoft: you don't really need the deb-src lines05:41
gar-i run it05:41
gar-but dont find it05:41
gar-kdebase?05:41
crimsunjoft: paste your uname -r and your sources.list onto paste05:41
gar-should i put the cd05:41
typewriterwhere is azureus?05:41
gar-or something like that when i run sinaptic???05:41
Madpilot!info kdebase05:41
ubotukdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 72 kB05:42
bimberidirkson: hm, k05:42
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freakazoid333might be in nthe universe section05:42
bimberidirkson: not sure then sorry05:42
freakazoid333i forget05:42
drbytedo any of you actually dual boot FreeBSD and Ubuntu?05:42
joft2.6.12-10-686  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/496605:42
typewriteri have universe and multiverse in my sources.list now and sudo apt-cache search azureus shows nothing05:42
dirksonbimberi: np. It's confusing me to pieces. I wish the game would just recognize the silly library.05:42
gar-Madpilot so it should be on the synaptic?05:43
bimberidirkson: yeah, all i can offer is sympathy.  I wonder if there is some sort of library path environment variable that it needs?05:43
Madpilotgar-: looks like it, yes. Search Synaptic for it05:43
bimberigar-: you probably don't have any network repositories enabled05:43
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ajmitch_yay, I finally got breezy cds in the mail :)05:43
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bimberiajmitch_: where's mine then! :)05:44
Madeyeguys, my gaim, OO, abi word lost spell check....05:44
crimsunjoft: aptitude remove libcamel1.2-605:44
gar-Madpilot: let me see i bin all day thy to put to run my wireless card with not success05:44
ajmitch_bimberi: somewhere in the world05:44
crimsunjoft: (and yes, it will remove a TON of stuff)05:44
bimberiajmitch_: :)05:44
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joftok05:44
dirksonbimberi: Could be. I don't know enough commands to check what it has set as the library path05:44
joftdone05:44
typewriterPackage azureus is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:45
typewriterThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:45
typewriteris only available from another source05:45
crimsunjoft: now continue the dist-upgrade05:46
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jofterrors while processing: postfix; lsb-core; lsb-graphics; lsb-cxx; lsb05:46
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bimberiubotu tell typewriter about azureus05:47
joftwant the whole output pastebinned again?05:47
Madpilottypewriter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo05:47
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crimsunjoft: do you still have the old 2.6.12-9 kernel lying about?05:47
crimsunjoft: if so, reboot into it and try dist-upgrading again05:47
jofti should05:47
joftk05:48
crimsunit shouldn't change anything, so only try it as a last resort05:48
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crimsun(I'm curious about the dpkg error)05:48
jofthere's my latest output http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/496705:48
sh10151Hi, I notice that Ubuntu hangs when my iBook resumes after sleeping05:48
joftmy most recent kernel behind that is 2.6.10-605:49
crimsunjoft: install postfix manually using dpkg05:49
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jofthm, in this kernel x server won't work05:50
harrishi, can anyone tell me how I unmount my hardrive so that I can make another partition on my hardrive?05:50
joftno problem though05:50
vid21I just have a quicky question.  If copy my Ubuntu install CD to a spare HD that I have...  Will it work (will it install a system)?05:51
crimsunjoft: that's because you're missing a l-r-m that matches the new security kernel05:51
skalpelcan anyone tell me why gnomebaker might freeze up during audio cd burning?05:51
ajmitch_vid21: no, copying the cd is not going to work05:51
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ajmitch_vid21: you'd still need to run the install from the cd05:52
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joftcrimsun: how do i install postfix with dpkg?05:52
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DaBassis there a way to deselect not yet installed packages in dselect? i have selected a package and all its dependencies and i have changed my mind before i tried to install.05:52
vid21is there any way to boot an iso from any bootloaders?05:53
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crimsunjoft: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.2.4-1ubuntu2*.deb05:54
wickedpuppyah ... java is killing me .. its so much of a resource hog05:54
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vid21I'm just trying to get around a computer that won't read any of the disks that I give it properly.05:54
vid21Tried multiple CD-drives but it always fails on the base install05:54
vid21tried known working CDs and it fails as well.05:54
joftno such file or directory05:54
crimsunjoft: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix*2.2.4-1ubuntu2*.deb05:55
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style2023what's everyones opinion here about a Dual Xeon system vs. A pentium D system.... which is better for use with Adobe Photoshop?05:55
wickedpuppystyle2023, eh ah .... asking about photoshop in ubuntu ?05:55
style2023wickedpuppy, why not!?05:56
joftit's not there05:56
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jofti looked in the directory and no postfix is there05:56
style2023okay fine.... LETS HAVE DE WARS!!!05:56
style2023I THINK GNOME SUCKS!!!05:56
crimsunjoft: aptitude reinstall postfix05:56
MadpilotI think trolls suck05:56
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harriscan anoyone tell me how to make another partition using a program found in ubuntu, i have gparted and Qtparted but both those do not give you the option to create one when the drive is mounted05:57
durt!start a wm war05:57
ubotudurt: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:57
gpledwant to try my hand at making an x window application.  what package do i need to get started?05:57
harrisand i can't figure out how to unmount it using kdisk05:57
joftok, all this trouble was because postfix was running and apt wouldn't stop it before trying to reinstall it05:57
jofti stopped it and reinstalled05:57
crimsunjoft: now finish the dist-upgrade, then reinstall ubuntu-desktop05:58
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joftthe dist-upgrade had nothing left to do after that05:58
joftand ubuntu-desktop wasn't installed, so it's installing now05:59
crimsunso reinstall ubuntu-desktop05:59
WengWhat's the command to execute a perl script?05:59
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durtharris: i think you have to use a livecd or something05:59
jack-anyone experienced with ubuntu-breezy on virtual pc?05:59
wickedpuppyWeng, perl script.pl or chmod +x script.pl then ./script.pl05:59
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harrisdurt, what distro would I use the livecd from?05:59
harrisubuntu?05:59
dirksonStyle: Based on what I know (Used to work for Adobe as a sales agent) I'd guess a Pentium D would work -slightly- better, given all things equal. I haven't worked with the Pentium Ds yet, though, so I couldn't tell you for sure. (Also, you're slightly off topic, aren't ya'? :) )06:00
UeuecoyotlThis is weird. When I choose all the components in repository and click "Ok" and then "Add" again, only "officially supported" and "restricted copyright" have been chosen, not universe or multiverse. Could that be why I'm not finding Azureus?06:00
Madpilotharris: the Ubuntu LiveCD should work for that, if you've got one06:00
WengThat reminds me, I need to implement livenet booting on this system, too.06:00
harrisit would make logical senese since when I try to unmount it says the device is busy06:00
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durtharris: any should work, ubuntu might be easiest06:00
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harrisok, cool... do you know any other bootable partition programs ?06:01
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harrisones that I could just boot off the cd06:01
cafuegosyslinux06:01
harrisit might be faster then downloading a livedisc06:01
AgamottoRIP06:01
joftcrimsun: was it a bad idea to install ubuntu-desktop when on an old kernel? like, is it going to get any packages specific to that kernel06:01
cafuegoOh, partitioning? Any live or install cd.06:01
Godhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d496806:01
durtquestion about partitioning: can i take a partition and split it into several without losing the data on the original?06:02
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harrishttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d4968 what is this?06:02
GodOH. An error I get when I run /mkmkfiles.imake in the OpenGL build thing.06:02
cafuegoharris: DOS boot floppy with fidk.exe06:02
cafuegofdisk even06:02
pgwhow do I download source packages in synaptic?06:02
harristhe thing is I don't have a floppy drive lol06:02
cafuegoGod: Why are you building opengl?06:03
GodI downloaded glut-3.5 and ran mkmkfiles.imake in there and it gave me that eror.06:03
harriscan I make a bootable cd with fdisk/06:03
GodBecause I know OpenGL and I don't want to forget it.06:03
Agamottodurt:  It is possible, but you really need to back up your data first.  This is playing with fire06:03
crimsunjoft: no, it's separate from the kernel06:03
GodAnd I've forgotten most of everything already. I need to get back up to date.06:03
cafuegoGod: It's porepackaged, why don't you just use the packages?06:03
Agamottopgw:  You select them from the list, and then click apply06:03
cafuegoprepackaged06:03
GodWhere?06:03
cafuego!find GL.h06:03
joftok, that finished and i rebooted to my new kernel (and now nvidia isn't working again lol)06:03
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wickedpuppyi am tempted to know god knows where .. but i think not06:04
wickedpuppyto say i mean06:04
pgwAgamotto: but for most of the packages I'm not even shown the corresponding source package...06:04
GodI don't HAVE GL.h that's why I'm installing it.06:04
Agamottopgw:  You don't need source.  The list is for the .deb files that are the equivalent to RPMs/06:04
Godld -lglut finds nothing06:04
cafuegoGod: usr/include/GL/gl.h is in libdevel/libgl1-mesa-dev06:05
highvoltageashwani: sorry, bit busy atm06:05
GodWhere is libdevel?06:05
Godin usr?06:05
pgwAgamotto: sure, but sometimes I _do_ need the source; for example, I'm having problems with the way a package was built, so I want to look at the source to see if I can figure out the problem06:05
cafuegoGod: Use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search; you should _not_ need to build any of that sort of libs for tarballs.06:05
cafuegoGod: 'sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev'06:05
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GodAlright06:06
Agamottopgw:  Ahhh, check to see if the sources repositories are checked, then update the list.  They should show up after that06:06
cafuegoGod: If you need to compile, you normally need a -dev package.06:06
cafuegoGod: ... as well as the lib.... package.06:06
sriyou know God, you probably should know this already06:06
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AgamottoGod has dementia....06:06
Godsri:  Oh shut up.06:07
wickedpuppycafuego, more karma to you ..06:07
crimsunjoft: did you install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ?06:07
AgamottoLike the Irish, he invented civilization, had a few Guinness and forgot where he put it.06:07
cafuegowickedpuppy: Yeah, and i _NEED_ it :-(06:07
wickedpuppylol06:07
srihey man, you come on with a nick like that, you need to prepare yourself :-)06:07
cafuegoNo, seriously.06:07
joftnow i'm getting this error when i try to start x windows:   "Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbnnx.o: no symbols found"06:08
cafuegoGod: type '/me smites thee' ;-)06:08
crimsunjoft: you can ignore it.06:08
pgwAgamotto: the source repositories are configured just like their binary equivalents, but the source packages don't show up...06:08
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God=D06:08
Agamottopgw:  Hmmm, that is interesting.  Try searching for the sources on freshmeat, just to make sure06:08
GodThe occupation of God would be really boring, wouldn't it?06:09
GodI mean..If you know everything already...what's the point?06:09
UeuecoyotlCould anyone recommend a bittorrent client?06:09
joftwtf, pastebin stopped working for me06:09
GodBitTorrent Downloader, UdontKnow.06:09
GodErr. Not UdontKnow06:09
GodUeuecoyotl:06:09
GodUeuecoyotl:  BitTorrent Downloader.06:09
wickedpuppylol06:09
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cafuegoGod: Not if you were a smart god and invented, say, free will?06:09
joftok06:09
jofthttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/496906:10
cafuegoUeuecoyotl: 'gnome-bittorrent' is installed by default.06:10
Godcafuego:  Then what's the point in being god other than sitting there?06:10
bimberiGod: type !hug06:10
God!hug06:10
ubotuubotu gives god a hug.  There, there, is that better?06:10
God?06:10
cafuegoGod: WHy do people play SimCity? To poke the anthill and see what happens ;-)06:10
GodNo.06:10
Agamotto!revolver06:10
ubotuNot a clue, Agamotto06:10
Ueuecoyotlcafuego, Err, that one seems kinda crappy though(?)06:10
God!kick06:10
ubotuGod: Are you smoking crack?06:10
GodYeah.06:10
bimberilol06:10
GodCome on. Crack is the Best.06:11
God!love06:11
ubotuGod: Bugger all, i dunno06:11
harristhanks for the help guys06:11
harrispeace06:11
ajmitch_God: please stop it06:11
God!kill06:11
ubotuWish i knew, God06:11
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twidgetAnybody help debug some PHP?06:11
cafuego#php knows06:11
wickedpuppytwidget, #php06:11
wickedpuppywait .. so do god06:11
twidgetwickedpuppy, thanks, but they seldom help06:12
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Godtwidget:  type 'php filenamehere' in your command line06:12
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wickedpuppy...06:12
Godtwidget:  It should find all the errors...06:12
crimsunjoft: sudo nvidia-glx-config disable06:12
crimsunjoft: then restart gdm06:12
Godtwidget:  If you have php installed...I gues.06:12
twidgetGod, http://www.phpfi.com/88440 -- If I $url = 'http://anydomain.com/some/valid/rss/'; this code works fine, but once I use the file command to read the urls into an array, the whole thing breaks down. What am I doing06:12
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twidget...wrong? :)06:13
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ajmitch_twidget: that's great, but it's still OT here :)06:13
twidgetsorry :(06:13
Godphpfi.com could not be found, twidget06:13
joftcrimsun: when i try that, the script says it can't continue because xorg.conf has already been changed06:13
twidgetGod, it's there, I swear06:14
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Godtwidget:  If you're just testing them out try echoing the values of the array instead of bugging with them.06:14
cafuegotwidget: Is the text file readable?06:14
twidgetI have, and yes06:15
crimsunjoft: well, try nv instead of nvidia in the meantime06:15
cafuegotwidget: What does echo $url; on line 6 say?06:15
twidgetcafuego, each line of the file, which is the URI to a news feed06:15
jofta lot of my error messages are about missing fonts06:15
twidgetI'm sorry to get everything off-topic. I'll drop this if ya'll want.06:16
cafuegotwidget: *nod*06:16
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cafuegotwidget: Do you have 'register_globals' enabled?06:16
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Godtwidget: I've been studying PHP but I can't access your file for some reason.06:16
rohanhi all06:16
Agamottogreetings06:17
rohanwhat a fight in the ubuntu forums about automatix!!!06:17
rohanAgamotto: :)06:17
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AgamottoWhat, praytell, is automatix?06:17
twidgetcafuego, I'll find out for sure. God, http://feeds.louisianablogs.org/config.txt06:17
Madpilotrohan: except that most of it got erased by some moderator...06:17
rohanMadpilot: yes..06:17
rohanMadpilot: all posts by apokryphos :)06:17
Goatocaustothis is a bit of a dumb question, but can anyone help me with how to UNINSTALL/REMOVE Ubuntu from my pc ???06:18
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rohanMadpilot: good thing too, we dont want people who are wanting to try ubuntu read it.06:18
AgamottoGoatoausto:  Sure, can you be a bit more specific, as far as partitions, number of drives, etc... involved06:18
rohanGoatocausto: use fdisk from some other distribution, or use a live cd, to delete the ubuntu partition.06:18
twidgetcafuego, yes, they're on06:18
twidgethttp://feeds.louisianablogs.org/phpinfo.php06:19
Goatocaustorohan - the problem is i have xp running at the moment [using now]  and i need to keep it06:19
AgamottoAgain, I ask - what is automatix?06:19
Goatocaustoif i fdisk it, wont it totally fuck up my boot thing ???06:19
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Godtwidget:  Are you sure you aren't getting a space before or after the link?06:19
Goatocaustocan i use partition magic or something??06:19
AgamottoGuatocausto:  Partition Magic would be a very safe way of doing this, yes06:19
twidgetGod, hmmm, no, I guess I'm not sure. How could I be sure?06:20
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phiqtionnalioth, you busy bro?06:20
Goatocaustook so - how should i go about it ? (sorry, i havent done this before)06:20
naliothphiqtion: not at al06:20
rohanGoatocausto: ok, use partition magic from xp.06:20
Godtwidget: echo a character before and after the URL like a '#' or something, and doing put spaces inbetween them. Like... echo "#$url#";06:20
twidgetThey're not that way in the file06:20
Goatocaustoi mean, should i just delete the partition and the resize my existing partitions ??06:20
phiqtionnalioth, i need to know how can i fix a partition table error #110.06:20
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naliothphiqtion: i have no clue what that is06:21
AgamottoBoot from Windows, fire up PM, and choose the partitions that linux was living on.  Format these, and do whatever you want with them06:21
rohannalioth: would you say that it is "safe" to use the version of automatix made by robotgeek ?06:21
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Kalidarndoes anyone know how to make a Microsoft Wireless Comfort set work under Linux? its a Wireless mouse and keyboard and the wireless reciever interfaces with the computer via USB06:21
rohanGoatocausto: yes.06:21
Kalidarni would have thought it would have justed worked06:21
phiqtionnalioth, any programa that runs off a cd or floppy that would fix any HD errors?06:21
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rohanGoatocausto: how many distributions do you have installed ?06:21
Goatocaustook i dont suppose theres a "guide" or "faq" to it anywhere ??06:21
twidgetGod, aha! You were right, a trailing space06:21
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Agamottophiqtion:  fsck -a, if memory serves, on the partition while it is unmounted06:22
Godtwidget:  I'm so amazing.06:22
c0rrupthow can i install kernel source?06:22
Goatocaustoi have one hdd, originally partitioned into c:\ [xp]  and another drive [my stuff] 06:22
naliothrohan: i would say to wait a day or two, we are polishing up a more improved one06:22
twidgetyes, you are06:22
Goatocaustonow linux has um06:22
twidgetI'll shut up about it now06:22
rohannalioth: that has a new name ;)06:22
naliothphiqtion: HD errors or partition errers?06:22
joftthis is ridiculous06:22
Godtwidget:  If it doesn't work then I don't know. run php on it.06:22
naliothrohan: yes, the one with the new name06:22
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rohannalioth: the new name is ?06:22
joftupgrading to breezy has completely destroyed my computer06:22
whyameyephiqtion: if it is HD errors, couldn't you use fsck?06:22
TobyKhi!06:22
jofti've spent all day trying to fix it06:22
joftand gotten nowhere06:23
twidget...except that so say that you've already done much more than ##php has ever done for me :)06:23
c0rruptwhat do i have to apt-get to install the latest kernel source??06:23
Goatocaustoc:\, h: [my drive, with a small linux swap file/space in it, and another drive that has 60 gig as a "linux ext 2"06:23
bimberic0rrupt: install linux-source-2.6.12 (for breezy) but do you really need it? what's it for?06:23
Godtwidget:  You should look for those things when dealing with strings.06:23
c0rrupthaving trouble compiling something06:23
c0rruptit keeps looking into06:23
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gar-=/06:23
gar-no luck06:23
Agamottojoft:  Unfortunately, from what I hear, you aren't alone06:23
c0rrupt/usr/something/linux version/modules06:23
Godtwidget:  Remember strings are just big character arrays and they start on 0. So you have to do string.size()-1.06:23
rohanGoatocausto: just delete the ubuntu / and swap partition. or better still, remove all linux partitions, boot from xp cd, go into recovery console, type "fixboot" and "fixmbr" ... you are done.. reboot, resize your partitions.06:23
c0rruptand .conf06:24
bimberic0rrupt: then try installing linux-headers-$(uname -r) first06:24
c0rruptin there i think06:24
TobyKcan someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu breezy onto a brand new server (Dual P4 with 2gig RAM), but the 2.6.10 kernel won't boot up - it says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell"06:24
phiqtionnalioth, partition errors, this is what happened. i got a new old laptop with only 355mhz. the thing had windows98 on fat32. i tried wiping it off with ubuntu. when i insert the windows98 cd again it says it cannot install because of an error. so when i put the partition magic program that runs off a flopy it gives me error 110. any ideas?06:24
c0rrupti think i already install headers06:24
Goatocaustook ill try that06:24
c0rruptbut ill check06:24
Goatocaustohopefully cant fuck it up too much hey?06:24
naliothphiqtion: what are you trying to do with it06:24
gar-i dont have not luck try to run my USB WIRELESS adapter DWL-G122 version b1 on ubuntu 5.0406:24
naliothGoatocausto: please be civil in here06:24
Goatocaustoso from partition magic just "delete" them06:24
Goatocaustosorry, i did not mean it in a vulgar or offensive manner06:24
rohanGoatocausto: any reason for removing linux ?06:25
phiqtionnalioth, im trying to install windows98 first and then ubuntu06:25
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naliothphiqtion: so the laptop is empty right now?06:25
Goatocaustoyeah dont entirely need it at the moment though its nice, i need more hard drive space at the moment and im not too "certain" on it, kinda afraid haha06:25
phiqtionnalioth, yes. but when i try to install windows98 it says it cant because the hard drive contains an error.06:26
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gar-any help here try to put to run the dwl-g122 ver b1 on ubuntu 5.04 i dont have another card and i cant connect to the net06:26
naliothphiqtion: do you have a liveCD?06:26
naliothphiqtion: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please06:26
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StarKruzra winner is my kitchen.06:26
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phiqtionnalioth, no. i have the install cd. breezy06:26
rohanGoatocausto: nothing will happen. remove the partitions, and do as i told you, using the xp cd and all06:26
joftcrimsun: i don't know if you're still there but now i've finished the dist-upgrade and i'm back in x windows (just did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but i still get "segmentation fault" when i try to run certain applications (and my sound still doesn't work)06:27
Goatocaustook cool06:27
crimsunjoft: no sound at all?06:27
Goatocaustosorry to bug but : 1)delete the partitions then reboot, fix stuff from xp cd, then resize once back in xp ??06:27
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gar-i guess not06:27
joftno sound at all06:27
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joftnot to mention i'd like to get drivers for my actual card working :/06:28
eatnumber1anyone here from support willing to help me with an install issue?06:28
gar-anyone with advices of what can i do with the DWL-G122 should i set it on fire????06:29
wickedpuppyeatnumber1, just ask ...06:29
crimsunjoft: what sound card?06:29
joftno clue, it's a dell inspirion 515006:29
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TobyKcan someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu breezy onto a brand new server (Dual P4 with 2gig RAM), but the 2.6.10 kernel won't boot up - it says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell"06:30
eatnumber1i installed ubuntu x86_64 and after reboot, when it says installing packages... at 94% it shows a screen full of illegible text (hex, i think) and freezes06:30
TobyKhowever I can boot into 2.6.8 kernel06:30
Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan06:30
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eatnumber1I then restarted, and it booted, but said that not all the packages were installed correctly06:31
eatnumber1so... how do I reinstall the packages06:31
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Goatocaustohey guys sorry to come back so quick06:31
Goatocaustowhat was the other command to run from the xp cd?06:31
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gar-hum06:31
Goatocaustoi remember "fixmbr" but there was another one06:32
gar-anyone would like to help me before i erase the ubuntu =/06:32
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Agamottoeatnumber1:  As a curiosity, what kind of graphics card in the system?06:32
eatnumber1agamotto: nvidia geforce 7800gtx06:33
TobyKanyone know how I can get the 686 version of the 2.6.8 kernel?? please? I can't find it in the repository06:33
GoatocaustoAnyone, help please !!06:33
joftis there some application to detect all my hardware or something06:33
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Pardon my ignorance, but this is a rather recent card?06:33
wickersshould be under restricted TobyK06:34
AgamottoTobyK:  The 586 and 686 are pretty much identical06:34
eatnumber1agamotto: the newest06:34
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Goatocaustowhat was the other command to run from the xp cd? after deleting the partitions i made for ubuntu, i remember "fixmbr" but there was another one06:34
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TobyKi don't see a 586 either - just a 386. this kernel is only using half my hardware - only one cpu and 1 gig ram!06:34
wickersAgamotto, actually I'd beg to differ... but for general use, nearly no difference would be noticed.06:34
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Check the Ubuntu wiki for issues regarding your video card.  90% usually is where X and other graphics bits get setup06:35
TobyKGoatocausto: maybe fdisk /mbr ?06:35
gar-anyone here have a working DWL-G122 from dlink working fine on ubuntu????? please let me know06:35
AgamottoTobyK:  Refresh me please, do you have a dual-core system?06:35
eatnumber1agamotto: but im having no problem using the system right now06:35
Goatocaustobut wont fdisk totally remove my xp stuff ???06:35
TobyKagamotto: yes, and I can't get any of the newer kernels to boot06:35
TobyKto refresh: can someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu breezy onto a brand new server (Dual P4 with 2gig RAM), but the 2.6.10 kernel won't boot up - it says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell"06:35
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Hmmmm, very odd.06:35
AgamottoTobyK:  Athlon 64x2?06:36
joftI think my problem with xchat has to do with scim, I tried "strace xchat" and it says a lot of  " /tmp/scim-socket-frontend-joft  no file/directory" stuff06:36
AgamottoAhhh, P4.... you need the smp kernel then, if memory serves06:36
eatnumber1agamotto: no entries in the ubuntu wiki for 7800 or 7800gtx06:36
TobyKeven 2.6.10-10-386 doesn't boot up06:36
eatnumber1agamotto: or for nvidia06:36
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Hrm... so much for that idea.  I suppose it is possible that media has been corrupted?06:36
TobyKthe only one that does, is 2.6.8-XX-38606:37
eatnumber1nop06:37
AgamottoTobyK:  If it says SMP, that should work06:37
eatnumber1agamotto: md5 hash was fine06:37
ZedughGoatocausto, double check (maybe fdisk /h) or windows help, but fdisk /mbr should just write the windows master boot record06:37
TobyKyea I tried booting 2.6.10-10-686-smp but that didn't work either - same /dev/hda1 doesn't exist error, which is dumb 'cos it just boooted off that drive06:37
eatnumber1agamotto: only thing I couldent check was the CD itself06:37
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eatnumber1agamotto: when it first burned, it checked it automatically06:37
AgamottoTobyK:  Out of curiousity, have you tried a Knoppix live cd in the system?  If two penguins show up, that is a good sign06:38
eatnumber1agamotto: but I dont kno how to check it now06:38
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Ok, I always like to rule out the stupid06:38
gar-anyone here have a working DWL-G122 from dlink working fine on ubuntu????? please let me know06:38
TobyKinfact, Breezy wouldn't even install off the CD - it hung after installing it and trying to boot (something about hw_random), so I had to install 4.10 and upgrade to breezy06:38
eatnumber1agamotto: yea, thats a good habit06:38
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TobyKagamotto: i haven't tried it, I do have a knoppix livecd so I can give it a go, but that isn't helping the /dev/hda1 doesn't exist problem06:39
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WengShouldn't "./ppmtolss16 < missile2.ppm > splash.lss" feed missile2.ppm as stdin and use splash.lss as stdout?06:39
eatnumber1agamotto: I just ran synaptic telling it to reinstall all my installed packages, and it gave me an error that said "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle."06:39
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AgamottoTobyK:  look in etc/fstab if you can get into it, and see what shows up there for /dev/hda106:40
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Interesting, I have never seen that one.06:40
wanglei_06:40
wanglei_is anybody here?06:41
TobyK /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       106:41
Agamottoni hao06:41
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wanglei_ni hao06:41
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AgamottoTobyK:  Now that is very odd.  You have an entry in fstab, but the system can't find it....06:41
eatnumber1agamotto:06:42
eatnumber1agamotto: ah, i found the answer06:42
gar-anyone here have a working DWL-G122 from dlink working fine on ubuntu????? please let me know06:42
TobyKaga: yup, i'm stumped. like i said, older kernel boots, newer one doesn't06:42
hav0khey, can someone help me with setting up flash... im doing what it says in the wiki, but i got to this part where it's talking about "make" and i do it, and nothing happens06:42
eatnumber1agamotto: take a look... http://nslug.ns.ca/pipermail/nslug/2005-November/008759.html06:42
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Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan06:43
eatnumber1agamotto: u kno how to make that shell script?06:43
wanglei_is there anybody working in ubuntu-zh chinese support group?06:43
hav0kanyone?06:43
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Agamottogar-:  You have ready the guide to ndiswrapper and followed the instructions?06:43
TobyKthese don't work: kernel 2.6.12-10-686-smp, kernel 2.6.12-10-386, kernel 2.6.12-10-386. But this one does, although it's only using half the machine: kernel 2.6.8.1-6-38606:44
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gar-Agamotto: i did all that  trust me i try everything also my usb adapter is RT2500 and try some software but need some pack so i can install that tha is the las thing i did not try because i dont find the kdbase and the qt3 so i can continue06:45
TobyKso i figure, if I can get kernel 2.6.8.1-6-686-smp then it will all be fine for now - anyone know how I can get this? it's not in synaptic06:45
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TobyKi've got breezy main and restricted in my sources.list06:45
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gar-Agamotto: also im running ubuntu 5.04 and i need kdebase and qt3 so i can continue the installation of the ralink06:46
Agamottoeatnumber1:  Actually, that line run in a terminal under sudo should do the trick, if I am reading this properly.  No script needed06:46
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hav0khey, can someone help me with setting up flash... im doing what it says in the wiki, but i got to this part where it's talking about "make" and i do it, and nothing happens06:46
jofti found the reason for my segmentation faults was scim, removed scim and now those applications work06:46
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joftbut my sound still doesn't work and i'd like for the drivers for my actual card to work too06:47
crimsunjoft: sorry, have been away. What sound card?06:47
Agamottogar-:  Ok, again, I work from the stupid and work my way up06:47
eatnumber1agamotto: gimme a sec, ill try it06:47
joftdon't know, it's a dell inspirion 515006:47
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crimsunjoft: how new is the laptop?06:47
gar-Agamotto: what u mean????06:47
crimsunjoft: lspci -v|grep -i audio06:47
joft2 years?06:48
eatnumber1agamotto: i got E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:48
eatnumber1E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:48
joftMultimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'9706:48
Agamottogar-:  search in Synaptic for kubuntu, and install, that should take care of your K dependencies06:48
eatnumber1oh06:48
crimsunjoft: ok, paste lspci -vv output onto paste06:48
Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan06:48
Madpiloteatnumber1: if you try to use apt-get w/ Synaptic open, you'll get that06:48
eatnumber1agamotto: duh, i had synaptic open06:49
Agamottohav0k:  Have you done the 'make install' step yet?06:49
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joftit's on pastebin06:49
jofthttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/497106:49
gar-Agamotto: i try to look on Synaptic for kdebase not result also qt3 neather result06:49
eatnumber1it diddent do anything06:49
Home_DawgHi, how can I set up Samba so that I can print from my linux box to my windows printer on the same network ?06:49
gar-Agamotto: do you think im doing something wrong06:49
eatnumber1 it said "Reading package lists... Done06:49
eatnumber1Building dependency tree... Done06:49
eatnumber10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:49
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Agamottoeatnumber1:  Ok, that means that you have/had something running that has tied up the package daemon06:50
gar-kubuntu06:50
gar-rofl06:50
gar-brb06:50
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gar-now i see06:50
gar-................................06:50
eatnumber1agamotto: nothing that I can see06:50
AgamottoWrite the command down, log out, log in, and try it again06:50
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eatnumber1agamotto: maybe u wanna vnc into my system and try doing it ureself?06:50
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thompa!flash06:51
ubotuhmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:51
Agamottogar-:  The easiest way to fetch the KDE stuff you need is to install Kubuntu06:51
Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan06:51
skonAnyone know how can I set up Samba so that I can print from my linux box to my windows printer on the same network ?06:51
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Agamottoeatnumber1:  I wish I was that good06:52
eatnumber1agamotto: oh... lol06:52
Quequegskon, printing from gnome or kde?  look into cups...06:52
GodAnyone kn ow how to get melange?06:52
skonactually, from command line06:52
Agamottoskon:  tell cups to send all prints to 'smb://printer'?06:52
eatnumber1so... any ideas on what to do?06:53
Agamottoeatnumber1:  No, I am befuddled at this point.  Give me a few for a cogitate06:53
eatnumber1agamotto: k06:53
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pztaki've been trying to recompile the kernel, and i checked to include ext3 (fs of / partition), but i always get an error when i try to boot with the new kernel about the .dep file (for modules) not being found and ext3 module failing to load (even though it's compiled into the kernel).. anyone know why? also, any reason why ubuntu has ext3 as a module (even for primary / fs?)06:54
gerberadanyone around that can help with using the windows key as a modifier?  right now it's acting like a normal key06:54
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Agamottogerberad:  What have you chosen for your keyboard layout?06:54
gerberadAgamotto,  generic 104-key06:55
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gerberadi have a dell laptop06:55
gerberadit doesn't work on my compaq laptop either06:55
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gerberaddesktops work fine though06:55
thompa!realplayer06:56
uboturealplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:56
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gerberadAgamotto, any idea?06:56
gerberadAgamotto, i think it has to do with xmodmap somehow?06:56
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Agamottogerberad:  Go into the settings, and pick a keyboard layout that says windows key at the end... I know there are a few generic entries...06:56
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NsOmNiAcok for some reason I'm brain dead right now06:57
j813How can I install g++, c++, gpp, etc. to make Flash for 64bit?06:57
Agamottogerberad:  Yes, xmodmap was something else I was trying to remember06:57
NsOmNiAcrecursive move of a directly and all subdirectorys is what ?06:57
NsOmNiAccommand line06:57
Quequegpztak, why not compile is as static?06:57
GodAnyone kn ow how to get melange?06:57
NsOmNiAcerrrr directory06:57
gerberadAgamotto, i'll try that w/win key layout firs06:57
AgamottoGod:  Go to Arrakis?06:58
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GodAgamotto:  What?06:58
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ZedughAgamatto: lol06:58
pztakQuequeg, what do you mean? i did. i marked it as 'y' and not 'm'06:58
NsOmNiAcnm06:58
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pztakQuequeg, but if i import my kernel config from the default ubuntu kernel, i see that for some reason ext3 is set as a module ???06:59
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gerberadAgamotto, i think that w/windows key is a kde setting :\ not gnome07:00
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Agamottopztak:  All fs are considered modules.  It makes further fs developement with the kernel branches easier to manage07:00
gerberadanyone else have ideas re this keyboard and win keys?07:00
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Agamottogerberad:  Try the 105-key keyboard07:01
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pztakAgamotto, I thought you were suppose to compile into the kernel your filesystem (not as a module) for the / partition ??07:01
ZedughGod: you can get melange at http://melange.sehrsupa.net/download/index.html07:01
gerberadAgamotto, that's int'l... not US07:01
AgamottoSystem -> Prefs -> Keyboard -> Layouts07:02
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AgamottoSure, but try it anyway to see if anything happens07:02
gerberadAgamotto, i know where it is ;)07:02
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AgamottoOk, just making sure07:02
gerberadbrb, i was playiht xmodmap and set super to mod4, so i think all should be well again :)07:02
Agamottopztak:  As long as it is set as a loadable module, no probs07:03
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eyequeuedid anyone else lose their desktop today with that upgrade?07:03
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eyequeueas well as esd07:03
renedoxno, I just reformatted07:04
pztakAgamotto, also, do you know why i get a .dep file missing if i use the make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image modules_image or is that error because i didn't make ext3 a module?07:04
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renedoxwhere can I get a complete list of repositories for breezy?07:04
renedoxhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:04
Madpilot!repos07:04
ubotuhmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:04
renedoxhas the hoary ones07:04
Madpilot!ubuntuguide07:04
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.07:04
ghostpsalmWhat permissions ought the /var and /tmp folders have, and all their contents?07:04
eyequeuehow do i go about getting my 4 desktops back?07:04
MrFartsdoes anyone know why ubuntu has problems running remote X applicatons ?07:05
MrFartsi have DISPLAY setup propertly but the X server is refusing connections07:05
Agamottoeyequeue:  What upgrade please?07:05
eyequeueAgamotto:  in breezy today07:05
Madpilotghostpsalm: 75507:05
Agamottopztak:  yes, module dependency07:05
foxinesseyequeue, what you mean by lost desktop?07:05
eyequeueAgamotto:  one was security, one was not07:05
pztakAgamotto, what do you mean? how do i fix it?07:05
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eyequeuefoxiness:  there's 4 desktops normally?  i'm down to 107:06
tritiumSorry to whoever I missed a message from...07:06
ghostpsalmMadpilot - and the /var/run/sudo file?  It says it ought too be 0700?07:06
Madpiloteyequeue: todays update ate your virtual desktops? it kept all eight of mine, no problems07:06
eyequeuealso, the little icons inside the menus disappeared, if that's relevant07:06
foxinesseyequeue, did you mean Workspace Switcher ?07:06
Agamottoeyequeue:  Hmmm, I haven't seen anything so far, and I have been online for almost 3hrs now... go figure07:06
Madpilotghostpsalm: that's what mine is set to07:06
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Zedugheyequeue, are you using gnome, kde, xfce4, or what?07:07
eyequeuefoxiness:  i don't know gui terms well07:07
eyequeueZedugh:  gnome07:07
Agamottopztak:  Add the ext3 module as y to the kernel, if I am following correctly07:07
Zedughi had no problem w/ today's updates07:07
Zedughusing gnome07:07
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foxinesseyequeue, this 4 small box on bottem of your screen near to Trash?07:07
Madpiloteyequeue & Zedugh: Gnome here too, and no problems w/ my desktops07:08
pztakAgamotto, i did add the ext3 as 'y'.. you mean mark it as 'm' ? also, if i use ndiswrapper, do i have to dl the src and recompile the module or can i use what i have now?07:08
Godmelange won't install.07:08
Zedugheyequeue, did you change, install, remove anything else?07:08
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eatnumber1agamotto: any ideas?07:08
eyequeuefoxiness:  there's only 1, but i meant the ability to alt-ctrl-right and alt-ctrl-left07:08
c0rruptto whoeever was helping me, installing new headers didnt fix my problem07:08
c0rruptHansZwolle, dont ping me07:08
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Madpiloteyequeue: that's working here for me, too07:08
c0rrupt-.-07:08
Agamottopztak:  You should be ok with y, but try m.  the ndiswrapper stuff should be ok as-is.07:09
Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors.07:09
eyequeuethese are the packages that upgraded (courtesy of apt-listchanges mail)07:09
sethkhe's gone.07:09
sethkbut y is always ok07:09
Agamottoeatnumber1:  No, and I can't figure why...07:09
foxinesseyequeue, ok try to reinstall this application may it solv this problem07:09
eyequeueiptables (1.3.1-2ubuntu1.1) breezy-updates; urgency=low07:09
eyequeuexkeyboard-config (0.6-5breezy1) breezy-updates; urgency=low07:09
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eatnumber1agamotto: ok... thx for ure help07:09
rubemhy tehre07:10
Madpiloteyequeue: yeah, I had the same two, and no trouble07:10
eyequeuei cant imagine netfilter is the culprit, but xkeyboardconfig is a gui thing?07:10
MrFartsanyone ?07:10
rubemanyone know how to configyure JAVA_HOME ?07:10
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Agamottoeyequeue: X manages both keyboards and mouse to some degreen07:10
RedRosehow do i make a process child that won't gewt killed after i exit the user(root)?07:10
eyequeueMadpilot:  any ideas what bit me?07:10
renedoxMrFarts: did you enable x forwarding?07:10
Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors when I try to make melange.07:10
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pztakAgamotto, i did try with y and that's when i got the funky error about ext3 module not being able to load even though i compiled it as y and not a module..07:11
MrFartsrenedox, do i need to ?07:11
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rubem?????07:11
renedoxMrFarts: yes07:11
MrFartsrenedox, i just typed in xhost +07:11
eyequeueAgamotto:  i'm more inclined to think of this at a higher level than x though, more ilke gnome level07:11
MrFartsrenedox, what else needs to be done ?07:11
RedRosehow do i make a process child that won't gewt killed after i exit the user(root)? i want to start an nmap, then logout07:11
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Madpiloteyequeue: no idea - what happens when you right click on the panel and re-install the switcher?07:11
renedoxMrFarts: should be ssh <username>@<ip> -X07:11
MrFartsrenedox, let me try ..07:11
RedRosei know you can do &... but that it quits after i exit07:11
QuequegRedRose, 'nohup', or screen.07:12
joftsince I upgraded to breezy my sound isn't working07:12
eyequeueMadpilot:  now i have two switchers, each with only 1 in it07:12
Zedugheyequeue, if you're talking about Ctrl-Alt-Left (or Right) its in X not gnome, try Ctrl-Alt-F207:12
RedRoseQuequeg:What is screen?07:12
foxinessgtkblog not work on my ubuntu from 5.04 ,and i dont know why?!07:13
foxinesssorry blogtk07:13
eyequeueZedugh:  no, iu'm trying to go (still within x) to alternate virtual desktops, but they stopped existing07:13
MrFartsrenedox, doesn't work07:14
QuequegRedRose, screen allows you to create a kind of virtual terminal, in which you can run ncurses programs, etc., but you can detach from the screen and log-out, whatever, without losing/terminating that session07:14
Madpiloteyequeue: right click on the switcher itself, and up the # of desktops07:14
renedoxMrFarts: is it enabled in your ssh config file?07:14
foxinessblogtk not work on my ubuntu from 5.04 ,and i dont know why?! and this output "IOError: unsupported XML-RPC protocol" how-can i fix this?07:14
MrFartsrenedox, on the server ?07:14
eyequeueMadpilot:  i knew it was somewhere!  couldn't find it.  thanks07:15
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MrFartsrenedox, ok, works now07:16
MrFartsrenedox, thanks07:16
mrkojehow efficient is emulating windows programs when you need to use them?07:16
mrkojelike adobe or macromedia?07:16
eyequeueokay, now this is  that kb package, i know it.  how to i get repeating keys back?  hold down backspace xchat and i only get one backspace07:16
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Madpiloteyequeue: again, I've still got repeating keys here... ddddddddddddddddddddddddd07:16
renedoxMrFarts: :)07:16
Madpilot;)07:16
foxinessmono get updated to 1.1.10 and monodevlop to 0.8 ,can i find this on ubuntu ? or there easy way to get this package install ?07:16
eyequeue"the application gnome-keyboard-properties has quit unexpectedly"07:17
Zedugheyequeue, sorry for the non-info07:17
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Godhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors when I try to make melange.07:18
eyequeuei think i'm going to restart x07:18
eyequeueor maybe the whole system07:18
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Llewxamcan anybody help me with something?07:19
ZedughGod, yeah, i looked at you're paste, and its a melange problem, not a ubuntu one. The majority of source tarballs i've downloaded wont compile07:19
rubemdoes GD library comes when I install php via apt-get?07:19
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ZedughGod: sometimes it's because the author used different versions of libraries, or compiler, etc., but at least 50% its bugs in the code07:20
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rubem??????????????????????????????07:21
rubemanyone?07:21
QuequegPeople are sooooo much more likely to help now.07:22
highvoltage:)07:22
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cdubyaLlewxam, just ask07:22
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AgamottoFunny, I thought Pablo Escobar was dead....07:25
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Kazuyalol07:26
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Kazuyammm07:26
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Kazuyahow do i enable framebuffer?07:27
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drcodehow I can check linux time zone?07:28
Llewxamsorry for the delay... out of the blue ubuntu quit recognizing my wifi card. in boot i get a 'could not allocate resource 0 to device... forgot the rest' and i get this error: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device. when i try through the network settings07:28
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kubuntu_guyhi guys07:29
rubemhi07:29
AMDXPkubunto hey ther07:29
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GodZedugh:  Sorry, I just barely read your message..How do I fix it?07:29
rubemanyone use php?07:29
kubuntu_guyany links that can help me to set up a samba with ldap authen07:29
Godrubem: Me07:29
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sss_lr!samba-ldap07:30
ubotusss_lr: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:30
kubuntu_guyI want to use ldap for my samba authen instead of nis07:30
God!grrrrandma.07:30
ubotuGod: I give up, what is it?07:30
God!What is what?07:30
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, God07:30
God...Wow.07:31
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GodI'll figure this whole shabang out tomorrow..07:31
Godlater.07:31
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gar-=/07:31
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cdubyaLlewxam, so you're trying to get the connection back up from the networking applet?07:31
ZedughGod, look at the FAQ or post a BUG here: http://melange.sehrsupa.net/phorum/index.html  it's their problem (and yours if you chose). If you fix it, you've debugged their code for them.07:32
crimsunjoft: sorry, I keep being interrupted. Where were we?07:32
gar-Zedugh: i still dont have luck with the adapter lol07:32
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Llewxami am trying to get this to recognize the wifi card. wlan0 is not showing in the network applet anymore.07:32
Zedughgar-, good luck, my ex-wife has a DWL-G120, not supported by ndiswrapper, and I can't even get it installed in win98.07:33
gar-i dont want to erase ubuntu =/07:33
gar-because is RT250007:33
gar-ratalk07:33
Llewxami ran iwconfig and ifconfig and all the other commands and it shows up.07:33
Llewxambut it just won't work at all07:33
cdubyaLlewxam, ouch....07:33
cdubyahang on...07:34
Llewxamk07:34
Zedughgar-, do any other USB devices work ok on your system?07:34
gar-yeap07:34
gar-the mouse work great07:34
gar-i think maybe is something im doing wrong07:34
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gar-no is im doing wrong07:34
dcj028hi... i'm very new to ubuntu... very cool op system and i'm very impressed so far... can anyone help me install the codecs and/or a good program for digital media? (.mp3 primarily)07:34
gar-Zedugh: i need to install kdebase and qt3 but seen that syn dont have the pack07:35
gar-Zedugh: im running 5.0407:35
Agamottogar-:  Try installing kubuntu07:35
gar-Zedugh: try 3 time the syn dont find it07:35
Zedughgar-, i cant check it for 5.04, i'm on 5.1007:36
cdubyaLlewxam, not sure if it this is it, but what do you have in the /etc/network/interfaces file?07:36
thunderboltdcj028: I like xmms for my music playing needs07:36
gar-Agamotto: i think is not supported by 5.0407:36
AgamottoNo, I got it while using 5.04....07:36
ZedughI like xmms too07:36
n0dlhow do i play a cd in mpg123?07:36
AgamottoFrom the main website, if I remember the link properly07:37
gar-Agamotto: but how downloading it with net update?07:37
Llewxamone sec07:37
gar-hmmm07:37
dcj028thanks thunderbolt07:37
Zedughn0dl, if its a regular audio cd (with .WAV files) you don't use mpg12307:37
n0dl... well im in command line07:37
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Agamottogar-:  Have you gone to the website and clicked on Kubuntu icon?07:37
durtand there are all sorts of gtk2 alternatives to xmms: bmp, bmpx, audacious, (xmms2?)07:37
gar-checking now07:38
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darth_chatrii'm having problems hibernating my dell laptop from kde07:38
darth_chatriit works with the gdm hibernate option07:38
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n0dldoes anyone know how to play CDs in command line?07:38
im_addicted19whats your problem with ur laptop??07:38
Zedughn0dl, there is a package called cdtool...07:38
n0dli c07:39
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n0dlZedugh: i tired to look for it in synaptic and cant find it07:40
renedoxwhat repo is azureus in?07:40
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Zedughn0dl, what version ubuntu r u?07:40
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Madpilotrenedox: it's not07:41
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Madpilot!tell renedox about azureus07:41
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shelli hey07:42
gar-Agamotto: do u have to download the kubunto????07:42
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Ce_ndekgtttt07:42
Zedughn0dl, hoary or breezy or?07:43
n0dlZedugh: breezy07:43
Zedughn0dl, cdtool is in universe, have you got that enabled?07:43
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n0dlZedugh: yes i do07:43
Llewxamwhoa...07:44
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darth_chatriim_addicted19: were you asking me?07:44
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n0dlZedugh: i found it07:45
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cdubyaLlewxam,......any luck?07:45
GTroyis there a installed vnc client?07:45
Llewxamcan i pm ya cdubya?07:45
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anavimwhere are my application settings stored?07:45
GTroyerrr vnc viewer?07:46
jknifehey07:46
cdubyaLlewxam, sure07:46
AgamottoMost are in hidden .whatever files in your /home07:46
chr1snvSorry to budd in, anyone know how to uncompress an initrd file so that i can edit the linuxrc inside?07:46
jknifenope srry07:46
anavimAgamotto, actually, roughly half of mine are.  do you know where else they might store settings?07:47
Agamottoanavim:  Possibly in /etc, and /usr07:47
jknifeyall know what a neat OS is?07:47
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AgamottoAmiga07:47
RancidLMhey all...07:47
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jknifePlan907:48
anavimAgamotto, do you know where firefox stores it's bookmarks, and where evolution stores it's email accounts?07:48
Zedughchr1snv, gunzip initrd.img.gz (or gunzip initrd.gz), to get image file. you must mount the image on a loop back device, then you can access it.07:48
RancidLMif i have a single ubuntu .deb file.. how do i install it since its not from a repository?07:48
AgamottoI thought that Plan 9 was a window manager?07:48
jknifedpkg -i <name>07:48
AgamottoRancidLM:  dpkg -i07:48
chr1snvZedugh, Thank you07:48
RancidLMjknife, Agamotto Thanks :)07:49
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jknifenp07:49
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jknifedapper is the next version?07:50
Zedughjknife, yes07:50
jknifek07:50
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jknifeI KNOW HOW TO USE IT07:50
anavimI keep losing my email accounts and bookmarks whenever I reinstall ubuntu... my email is intact, though.. in .evolution07:50
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jknifedont reinstall?07:51
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moois there a way to find out your ram speed in linux? e.g. pc3200 etc07:51
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jknifedoesnt memtest tell it?07:51
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moohow long does that take to run? ive never touched it07:52
chr1snvZedugh, spoke too soon, it says unknown suffix - - ignored07:52
cdubyaanavim, my bookmarks.html file is in ~/.mozilla/default/whatever_the_default_suddir_is07:52
jknifeas long as you want it to07:52
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nickrudmoo, dmidecode tells you more than you want to know; the cpu is towards the top07:52
anavimit wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have 9 email accounts  :(07:52
naliothmoo: open a terminal and type "sudo lshw"07:52
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chr1snvZedugh, i tryed before to rename it to .gz and then change it back to .img after it finished, but the mount command returned errors07:53
Zedughchr1snv, what says unknown suffix07:53
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Quequeganavim, why don't you forward them to one account (and use a filter to direct them to folders if necessary)?07:53
chr1snvZedugh, gunzip says unknown suffix07:53
Zedughchr1snv, what was the original initrd file name?07:54
nickrudnalioth, I didn't know my cpu had a size of 800 ;)07:54
naliothnickrud: did you run "sudo lshw" ?07:54
chr1snvZedugh, it was initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k707:54
anavimQuequeg, my email itself is intact, but I don't know how to back up the account info, so if I reinstall I have to recreate all nine accounts07:54
nickrudnalioth, yeah, that's where I saw it07:54
Llewxambrb07:55
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jknifewhy aint they using the nvidia-glx v76.76 driver?07:55
naliothnickrud: shows you a lot of stuff, doesnt it?07:55
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nickrudsame stuff, different format07:55
moonalioth, nickrud those programs dont tell you the clock speed of your ram07:55
Zedughchr1snv, thats an uncompressed initrd image, just mount the original file on a loopback device07:55
nickrudmoo, mine did; it said it was running at 800, and was capable of 120007:55
moohm07:55
naliothmoo: if it doesnt, then im not sure what else to run07:55
moo     *-memory07:56
moo          description: System memory07:56
moo          physical id: 107:56
moo          size: 767MB07:56
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naliothmoo: please dont paste in here07:56
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moocool app tho, I've never heard of it, is it in other distros?07:56
naliothmoo: is it not in all distros, no07:56
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mooknoppix?07:57
jknifemoo if you need to paste do it in #freebsd :P07:57
Quequeganavim, without trying to pass the buck, I don't know evolution.  Try asking a chan specific to the evolution novell folks.07:57
nickrudlol07:57
mook, can do :p07:57
naliothmoo: i'm not sure, i dont use other distros07:57
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naliothmoo: i do help folks that use other distros, and by helping, i've found it's not there07:57
jknifeive used MANY distros... but i know my hw so i never messed w/that stuff07:58
chr1snvZedugh, would you happen to know the filesystem type?07:58
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Zedughchr1snv, i'm surprised its asking you, but probably ext207:58
naliothmoo: in your terminal, type "sudo lshw > ~/myhardware"07:58
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naliothmoo: that'll give you a text file in your home dir you can read at your leisure07:59
gpTerminal command to search for files named ... ?07:59
mooyeah well i can scroll as well, i read all of it07:59
moofind / -name blahblah07:59
mooi think07:59
durtor locate07:59
mooor sudo updatedb && locate blah08:00
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nickrudanavim, the accounts are kept in gconf; /apps/evolution/mail08:00
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jknifei like slocate08:00
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DeMoNSeEdhello08:00
chr1snvZedugh, :/ no such luck i tryed vfat ext2 ext3 ntfs and hfs08:00
jknifegood bye08:00
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gar-no luck08:00
anavimnickrud, thx08:00
DeMoNSeEdthanks jknife08:01
jknife?08:01
gpOke, find did not find it... menudefs.hook is stored where?08:01
DeMoNSeEdlol08:01
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Slaj_RQuestion ... I have installed Lilypond v.2.2.6.  I want to upgrade to 2.6, the latest stable version, but apt-get doesn't seem to be able to find the latest version.08:01
jknifeupdated your sources?08:02
DeMoNSeEdi got my breezy cd.....put it on, but i find it very slow, is there something wrong with breezy that it so much slower08:02
durtgp "locate menudefs.hook"08:02
jknifeDeMoNSeEd, live? or install?08:02
crimsunSlaj_R: it might be in breezy-backports. We have 2.6.3-9 in Dapper.08:02
Slaj_Rjknife:  Well, I did $apt-get update08:02
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gayatripy tolek08:02
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jknifeSlaj_R, what version of Ubuntu are you running08:03
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jknifeDeMoNSeEd, the live cd is a HELL of a LOT slower then it installed08:03
jknifeim running it on a 333mHz 256mb ram pc w/o any problems08:03
Slaj_Rbreezy08:04
gayatrijjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj08:04
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DeMoNSeEdnope i installed as usual actually i've never ran the live on any version08:04
nickrudSlaj_R, the version won't change in breezy. It may show up in backports, but you'll probably need to find another repository until dapper releases.08:04
Steilheh08:04
AgamottoTime for sleep, I think...08:04
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Steilit runs fine on my 133mhz08:04
Steilthough i can't use metacity08:04
Slaj_RIs there an alternate way to upgrade?  Manually, perhaps?08:04
jknifeSlaj_R, they may not have updated it yet08:04
DeMoNSeEdif i put hoary on it runs well08:04
DeMoNSeEdupgrade, same deal slow08:05
durthow much ram steil?08:05
Steil48mb08:05
jknifeSteil, im using gnome, Firefox, XChat, and the updater w/o any slow downs08:05
durtwow08:05
Steilheh I don't use my p133 anymore though08:05
nickrudgnome?08:05
Slaj_Rjknife: so no upgrade for me until then, eh?08:05
Steilnot worth the power it consumes08:05
gpIs there anyway to embed a command within a command?  Like 'editor (locate menudefs.hook)' ?08:06
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jknifenickrud, you dont know that gnome is?08:06
jknife:|08:06
nickrudnosilver4u, gnome on a 13308:06
DeMoNSeEdk thanks anyways..... hopefully Dapper will be fast again08:06
Steilgp: gedit `locate blah`08:06
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zdennishey all...having issues with gdmsetup (i have never been able to run it)..... it says GDM Configuration File not found08:07
Zedughchr1snv, i tried myself, don't know. i've mounted initrd images from other distros (knoppix, slackware) this way08:07
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zdenniswhere does it look bydefault? It exists in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf08:08
nickrudI'll have some cats to give away soon, I fear08:08
jknifei  have one08:09
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jknifebut shes no lil pussy08:09
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chr1snvZedugh, perhaps i am typing something wrong? (sudo mount initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k7 /mnt/initrd/ -o loop) , oh now it seems it throws a "connot find a free loop device" error08:10
chr1snvZedugh, i am in a live cd boot could this be a problem?08:10
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Quequegchr1snv, maybe you need to 'umount' prior mount attempts?  Does "cat /etc/mtab" tell you what those other mounted loop devs are?08:12
jknifewow... ubuntu must be for pirates so much p2p software08:12
tritiumjknife, no, we don't condone pirating08:12
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vegoscan anyone suggest a wma audio package?08:12
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DeMoNSeEdgot it08:13
jknife?08:13
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DeMoNSeEddoes this make sense, i need to disable ipv6 in breezy08:13
jknifeim using it08:13
jknifeare you using the latest kernel?08:14
vegosbump08:14
DeMoNSeEdi googled, for an entry saying ipv6 is slowing down breezy by 4 times08:14
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jknifethere is a updated kernel newer then the cd08:14
DeMoNSeEdi was yes08:14
jknifek08:14
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jknifetry it08:15
DeMoNSeEddisable ipv6 and speed dramatically increases, i'll try it08:15
DeMoNSeEdbrb08:15
chr1snvQuequeg, nope, i cannot find any loop devices at all in "cat /etc/mtab"08:15
NikyoIs there a way to save Ubuntu 5.10 Live Cd settings to USB hard drive or USB thumb drive? Please..08:15
vegoscan someone suggest an wma audio package08:15
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wickedpuppyvegos, whats a wma audio package ?08:15
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jknifeNikyo, yes set the home folder to its dev08:16
vegossomething that will enable me to play my wma files on rhythmbox08:16
jknifewindows media08:16
wickedpuppyyou mean wma player ?08:16
wickedpuppy!wma08:16
ubotumethinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats08:16
silwolgood morning08:17
jknife(you can always search sf.net for one)08:17
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RotanHELP08:17
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Rotanhelp help help!!!08:17
Nikyojknife: how do I do that.. make /home /dev?08:17
tritiumRotan, please stop, and state your problem08:17
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silwolmaybe somebody can help me with my problem: since my last kernel update for ubuntu 5.10 I got some problems with my nvidia driver08:17
Rotanyou know /ect/hosts ?08:18
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Rotanit's empty08:18
aftertafanyone getting a dpkg segfault with the debtags package on dapper?08:18
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tritiumsilwol, did your linux-restricted-modules get updated as well?08:18
Rotan*/etc/hosts08:18
silwoltritium:  yes, everything got updated08:18
silwoltritium: the correct kernel module even loads using insmod08:19
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wickedpuppyRotan, 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       wicked1 <--- change the last value to your hostname08:19
tritiumsilwol, okay.  Have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?08:19
silwoltritium: but xorg wants to load it by itself again.08:19
jknifeNikyo, its a boot option press F1-F? at the boot screen till you see how to do it08:19
Zedughchr1srv, no, i cant do it in a non-live system either08:19
ubuntuhello there ... im  linux-newbie  testing  ubuntu live cd,  looking for  some mac mod desktop08:19
tritiumsilwol, the kernel module is separate from the xserver08:19
silwoltritium: in the log file i just get the same error message that i get when the restricted-modules is not installed08:20
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NikyoAH.. I see.. like passing commands to the kernael..08:20
Nikyogot ya.. thanks08:20
vegoswma help08:20
anavimubuntu, to go gnome-look.org08:20
NikyoHave a good thnksgiving08:20
anavimer, go to..08:20
Rotanwhat about host.conf, hostname, and host.allow?08:20
wickedpuppyvegos, did you go to the link the bot gave ya ?08:20
ubuntulets see08:20
Rotanbut thank you so much, so fal, wickedpuppy08:20
wickedpuppyRotan, really ... you need all those ?08:20
Rotan*so far08:20
tritiumsilwol, are you sure your kernel and restricted-modules versions match?08:20
silwoltritium:  yes, they do.08:21
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Rotanwhat SHOULD be in them?08:21
wickedpuppyi am wondering how you installed ubuntu08:21
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vegosyeah08:21
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wickedpuppyRotan, how did they get lost ?08:21
vegosbut the files i have are wma08:21
Rotani was messing around as root08:21
Rotan...08:21
wickedpuppyvegos, synaptic and search for wma ... you might have luck08:21
ubuntulive cd08:21
jknifevegos, goto sf.net and search around08:21
naliothubotu: tell vegos about w32codecs08:21
Rotani don't want to divulge the specifics08:21
ubuntuim runnig  a live cd08:21
rageHey, is there a way to get the gnome keybindings to launch custom applications?08:21
tritiumRotan, a dangerous thing to do08:21
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ubuntuthis is  nice  !!!08:22
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Rotanunless you need me to08:22
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vegosnope08:22
Rotancuz i could08:22
vegosnothing in synaptic08:22
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ubuntujust  got the cd into  the tray  and ...08:22
jknifeubotu, click on the lower left hand side where it says "Ubuntu" and change your name please08:22
ubotujknife: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about08:22
nickrudvegos, I've heard of an wma plugin for xmms; you might find it on google08:22
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jknifeubuntu, , click on the lower left hand side where it says "Ubuntu" and change your name please08:22
wickedpuppyRotan, both host.allow and host.deny can be empty08:22
Rotanok08:23
Rotangood08:23
wickedpuppypaste these two in host.conf08:23
wickedpuppyorder hosts,bind08:23
wickedpuppymulti on08:23
wickedpuppythats it08:23
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Rotanso what should be in hostname and host.conf?08:23
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wickedpuppyhostname if your hostname08:23
jknifeRotan, wtf did you do?08:23
wickedpuppyput ya hostname there08:23
vegosi found one for rhythmbox but when i ./configure it says something about needing development package08:24
vegosany ideas?08:24
Rotanok08:24
Rotani'm good08:24
Rotanthank you SO much08:24
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Rotan...08:24
wickedpuppyhaaaa08:24
ubuntuwher is it ?08:24
wickedpuppypls stop abusing root :P08:24
ubuntuin this window ?08:24
jknifevegos, apt-get make-dep <pkg name>08:24
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jknifeyes08:25
Rotannow to get out of this crappy os ang into ... wait...08:25
wickedpuppyjknife, why ask him to change nick may i ask ?08:25
tritiumjknife, build-dep?08:25
vegosbut what package?08:25
Rotancan someone tell me how to get modem support?08:25
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jknifeto the left of the input box08:25
ubuntu_.-08:25
ubuntudone08:25
morphixdoes anyone know of any guides to configuring samba(for network sharing) using terminal?08:25
jknifetritium, im not sure i usally do both08:25
wickedpuppysamba.org08:25
nickrudvegos, that apt-get build-dep rhythmbox will pull in all the rythmbox dev packages for you08:25
Rotan*listens intently*08:26
nickrudbuy an external08:26
tritiumjknife, make-dep is not a valid option08:26
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jknifelike i said i try both08:26
nickrudRotan, what kind?08:26
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Rotanintel08:27
newbuntuhehehe08:27
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nickruddon't know that one08:27
tritiumWell, you need not try it any more, since it doesn't do anything08:27
Rotan...08:27
newbuntuthx08:27
jknife"new humanity to others"08:27
Rotanbut an external one should be supported?08:27
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nickrudRotan, yes, and transparently08:27
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Rotanwhat do you mean trasparently?08:28
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nickrud*just works08:28
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newbuntucan you tell me where can i find  information about  ubuntu in spanish ?08:29
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wickedpuppy!es08:30
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:30
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kubuntu_guysr any link that can help me in setup a samba and ldap authentication08:30
wickedpuppykubuntu_guy, samba.org and google08:31
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Llewxamhmm... it works. yay. fixed it.08:31
_can you upgrade from debian sid to breezy?08:31
kubuntu_guythanks08:31
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jknife_, yes08:31
wickedpuppyisn't sid the unstable ?08:31
bobessutiojknife: is there something online?08:32
bobessutiojknife: instructions?08:32
Rotandangit08:32
jknife?08:32
Rotanwhy isn't there support for my modem?08:32
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Rotanand why can't i dig up my external?08:32
jknifeohh just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to be ubuntu locs08:32
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bobessutiojknife: thanks!!08:33
nickrudbob2, that is probably a downgrade now08:33
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tritiumRotan, how does one answer such questions?08:33
wickedpuppytritium, how does one answer such questions ?08:34
wickedpuppy:P08:34
Rotannot with another question08:34
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nickrudbobessutio, that's a downgrade, sorry08:34
crimsunRotan: the point is that your questions are meaningless without additional information.08:34
bobessutionickrud??08:34
tritiumwickedpuppy, :)08:34
Rotananyone know anything about cedega?08:34
nickrudbobessutio, sid has newer packages than breezy08:34
jknifebobessutio, dont do brezzy do dapper08:34
aloysiushi, i have a radeon 9250 which i cant get drivers to install for on breezy 64...anyone know how?08:35
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Rotani have an internal intel 56k data fax voice modem08:35
Rotando you need mobo specs?08:35
crimsunjknife: uh please don't recommend that unless you're willing to support the modular X.org FTBFS that we have going on atm08:35
jknifehes using sid08:35
jknife:|08:35
ubuntubloody reiserFS doesn't want to resize ><08:36
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crimsunRotan: we need lspci -vv and lspci -nv (don't paste in here) output08:36
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jknifepaste in #freebsd08:36
jknifej/k08:36
Rotani don't know what that means08:36
crimsunRotan: and of course I presume you've already trawled the Web?08:36
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Rotanyea08:36
WhitynzI want to get it fromm being a 50gb partition to 15gb08:36
RotanThere are 4 steps in this howto:08:37
Rotansorry08:37
Rotanignore that08:37
n0dlwhich is a better MTA Sendmail or Postfix?08:37
Rotanthere are 4 steps, and three of them require that i both be in ubuntu and have an internet connection08:37
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Rotanwait08:37
nickrudlol08:37
Rotan2 require that08:38
mrkojeI think sendmail is harder to setup08:38
crimsunn0dl: generally postfix is used more readily08:38
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crimsun"better" is entirely subjective08:38
nickrudRotan, some very nice instructions :)08:38
Rotanyea08:38
mrkojesendmail probably has more functionality for an enterprise solution...08:38
n0dlcool08:38
n0dlwell its more for personal use08:38
aloysiusnoone knows about radeon drivers?08:38
wickedpuppy!ati08:39
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:39
Rotanmaybe i'll hook up one of my old wintendows and connect through it08:39
mrkojeAloysius:08:39
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Whitynzfucking reiser08:39
anavimnintendos?08:39
tritiumWhitynz, please watch the language08:39
Whitynzsorry08:39
mrkojeAloysius: you will have to get the ATI drivers from http://www.ati.com08:39
aloysiusmrkoje: i tried that08:40
tritiummrkoje, no08:40
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mrkojeAloysius: Whats your problem then/08:40
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mrkojetritum: no what?08:40
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Rotanwould this work: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html08:40
mrkojetritium: no what?08:40
pbransfordDoes Hoary have a firewall?08:41
WhitynzSo anyone got any suggesions on how to resize a reiser partition (I'm on the live cd atm)08:41
Madpilotaloysius: the ATI drivers in the Ubuntu repos work, at least here - I've got a 9600XT 256Mb08:41
aloysiusthey install fine, both from ati driver and the apt-gotten binary....but they crash when i reboot08:41
tritiummrkoje, don't advise ati.com, please, when there are drivers in ubuntu repositories08:41
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linux-se-nybohi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection08:41
aloysiusMadpilot: are u using amd64?08:41
pbransfordI hope there is a firewall of some kind. oh wait... dur! isnt it part of the kernel?08:41
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aloysiustritium: but the repository drivers dont work?08:41
Madpilotaloysius: no, K7 here08:41
pbransfordDoes this distro have a nice GUI for it?08:41
tritiumaloysius, they do08:42
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sedatI love u ubuntu08:42
cafuegopbransford: All kids of GUIs that are as nice as you care to make them.08:42
anavimpbransford, yes08:42
Madpilotpbransford: it's got the lastest Gnome08:42
aloysiustritium: not for me they dont! :(08:42
raingrovepbransford, try firestarter08:42
mrkojenot for ati08:42
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aloysiusand im not alone08:42
linux-se-nybohi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection08:42
tritiumaloysius, are you on a 64-bit machine?08:42
mrkojeATI drivers are proprierty drivers... can only be downloaded at ATI.com08:42
aloysiusyup08:42
raingroveati drivers are crap08:43
pbransfordthanks guys08:43
morphixdoes anyone know of any guides to configuring samba(for network sharing) using terminal? (samba.org is no help btw)08:43
mrkojeat least thats what I foundout08:43
devnulATI makes crap08:43
pbransfordused firestarter before, forgot about it :D08:43
tritiummrkoje, no, they're packaged for ubuntu in the restricted repo08:43
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Madpilotmrkoje: there are ATI drivers in the Ubuntu repos08:43
aloysiusdevnul: thanks for your help :/08:43
cafuegoI hear the latest drivers from ati.com will work much better on amd64 than the pre-built ones. It might be worth trying them.08:43
raingrovei wish my laptop had a geforce instead08:43
anavimpbransford, go to gnome-look.org for screenshots of what it looks like08:43
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mrkojesweet... well apt-get didn't fetch them for me08:43
raingrovemrkoje, it's called fglrx08:43
mrkoje:(08:43
devnulaloysius, what are you trying to do?08:43
mrkojethanks08:43
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Madpilot!tell mrkoje about ati08:43
devnulaloysius, i missed your message.08:44
pbransfordanavim, i have it installed, i was just looking for the firewall configurator (just stopped using suse, hehe)08:44
raingrovemrkoje,  i am not sure whether it's xorg-fglrx or xorg-driver-fglrx.. search in synaptic or somethijng08:44
cafuegoEl_Che: on i386 or amd64?08:44
aloysiusinstall fglrx driver on my amd64 breezy install....08:44
devnulIs it a radeon card?08:44
pbransfordBTW, for future reference08:44
aloysiushehe yeh sure is08:44
pbransfordcan anyone throw me a link about moving from 5.04 to the latest breezy?08:44
devnulwhat model08:44
mrkojeyou ubuntu guys are pretty hardcore about your package managers08:44
linux-se-nybohi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection08:44
aloysius925008:44
cafuego!hoary->breezy08:44
Madpilot!tell pbransford about breezyupgrade08:45
cafuegoaloysius: The 9250 should work OK with the free drivers.08:45
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devnulthe r200 driver from xorg 6.9 runs much faster08:45
tritium!attack of the killer exclamation points!08:45
ubotuNot a clue, tritium08:45
aloysiuscafuego: you mean the ones from the ubuntu repos?08:45
cafuego!!!08:45
ubotufrom memory, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me08:45
devnulfglrx is basicly for your 9800 and above.08:45
pbransfordthanks Madpilot08:45
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cafuegoaloysius: xorg-driver-ati (not fglrx)08:45
linux-se-nybowhere can i read about installin internet on ubuntu08:46
aloysiuscheers!08:46
kahaLosing my mind over this stoopid vid card (sapphire radeon 9200 se).08:46
raingrovefglrx driver sucks08:46
Madpilotpbransford: np08:46
cafuegoaloysius: IF the x config asks, make it use the 'ati' driver and you should be fine.08:46
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mrkojeraingrove: if fglrx is the driver for ati cards... what is better08:46
cafuegokaha: Got a 9200se here, works nicely.08:46
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is a .rar file?08:47
kahaxorg-driver-ati locks up my X in most games (tuxracer, UT, NWN), and I can't get the fglrx drivers to work in Breezy.  :(08:47
BROKEN_LADDERsome kind of archive?08:47
Madpilotraingrove: it works fine here, I've got 3d accel at a good rate and the works...08:47
sedatthe day when I can play battlefield 2 on ubuntu I will delete windows on my pc08:47
raingrovealot of apps08:47
mrkojeCafuego: my xorg didn't like the ati driver for my x70008:47
raingrovesuch as celestia08:47
raingrovedont work with fglrx08:47
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raingrovefglrx also breaks suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk08:47
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: it's an archive, like a .zip08:47
mrkojeraingrove: i see08:47
raingrovei hate ati08:48
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kahacafuego: mine works fine, unless I load a game. Not sure why; the fglrx drivers worked fine in Hoary08:48
cafuegomrkoje: That's ebcause it's too new. CHeck docs on whether hardware works BEFORE buying the hardware.08:48
SookSeSiahany one install ubuntu on Dell inspiron 6000? How can I use the modem?08:48
cafuegokaha: That's crappy, mine runs ppracer and stuff just fine (it's in a mac mini)08:49
kahahrm08:49
aloysiusi might have to save up and buy an nvidia card...the 9250 was only $30 new and i got it as a stopgap...turns out its a pain in arse!08:49
kahacafuego: with mesa or fglrx?08:49
linux-se-nybowhere can i read about installin internet on ubuntu08:49
ke__set theme foo.theme08:49
ke__Oups08:49
raingrovewe should all boycott ati08:50
raingroveuntil they make proper drivers08:50
cafuegokaha: mesa08:50
raingrovenvidia drivers are good08:50
mrkojeCaguego: it's actually on a winxp machine that crashed. I ended up using ubuntu live and modded xorg.conf to use vesa08:50
cafuegokaha: Honestly, atio can't make amd64 work right, I have _NO_ hope for them on powerpc at all.08:50
raingrove(relatively i mean)08:50
mrkojecafuego: or somthing like that08:50
aloysiusyeh i had nvidia on my old system under hoary and it worked beautifully08:50
cafuegokaha: I personally have an nvidia card now (switched to it from Matrox, which has ALWAYS worked EXACTLY right)08:51
kahacafuego: I like the Mesa drivers better than fglrx. But when I launch ppracer or UT, the display locks up hard within seconds. Did in Hoary, as well.08:51
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cafuegokaha: Does the card have a fan?08:51
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kahacafuego: no.08:51
cafuegoOk, so it's not a broken fan then :-)08:52
aloysiuskaha: what card is it?08:52
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kahacafuego: I wanna go on ebay and score a card (games, general use). What do you recommend I look for?08:52
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kahaaloysius: it's a Sapphire radeon 9200SE08:54
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cafuegokaha: go for any nvidia card08:55
pbransfordwhen setting a rule in firestarter, i can set a range of ports right?08:55
cafuegokaha: mine's a 5700TDH and it works fine under amd64.08:55
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kahacafuego: which do you recommend?08:55
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kahaah08:56
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cafuegokaha: I don't keep track of what's out... just bought this one when I thought my old oen had died (turned out the mobo had actually melted)08:56
cafuegokaha: Then buying a high-end card isn't going to do much.08:56
kahacafuego: holy krap08:56
cafuegokaha: Any plans on upgrading the cpu anytime soon?08:57
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cafuegokaha: http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png08:57
n0dlexit08:57
kahacafuego: not majorly. What cards should I look for?08:57
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wickedpuppykaha, if you absolutely must have a card name from this chan ... take this ... nvidia fx 550008:57
wickedpuppyi am using it08:57
kahacafuego: gotcha08:57
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cafuegokaha: Any midrange AGP nvidia card should be a good match for your cpu.08:58
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kahacafuego: looking at picture... chernobyl!08:59
cafuegokaha: :-)08:59
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cafuegokaha: The rest of the system was fine, it's got a new mobo now and runs happily.08:59
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Rotan...09:00
kahacafuego: the fx 5500 would be good in my old crate?09:00
Rotanlooked at linmodems.whatever.whatever...09:00
Rotanno help09:00
Rotanwell... little help09:00
wickedpuppyRotan, you are still here ...09:00
Rotangot some output file09:00
Rotanyea...09:00
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wickedpuppyi go read agatha christie books ... the one with the belgium detective :P09:01
ilba7ranyone know what is the command that the logout button call in gnome?09:01
cafuegokaha: Yeah, should be around $70 from that I can tell and ought to give you 1) stability and 2) better framerates :-)09:01
nadia007trying to mount a drive, how can I tell what which hd it goes to?09:01
kahacafuego: Right on! Thanks for the help. (getting tired of ATI-Land)09:01
silwoltritium: i just got it running. worked after a apt-get --purge --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-68609:01
cafuego:-)09:02
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wickersok, quick question, how do you guys fight linux addiction?09:02
ilba7rnadia007 can you be more specific09:02
wickers'cause I'm currently depressed, or in a form of depression, and being adicted to linux is only distracting me from getting better.09:02
ilba7rmount deivce directory09:03
Rotanwickers...09:03
nadia007I've got a second drive slave.  trying to mount it.  mount /dev/hdb1 /tunes but I get a filesystem error09:03
Rotanhonestly...09:03
Rotani dont fight it09:03
nadia007I've used hdb1 before, but now seems it doesn09:03
nadia007like it.09:03
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Rotanwickers, have you been addicted to other distros?09:04
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wickersRotan, it's linux in general.. or computing in general...09:04
Rotanand speaking of addiction, has anyone ever been addicted to synaptic...09:04
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snadgeubuntu doesnt seem to force reiserfs root partition to replay journal because its mounted read only.. is this a problem? (unclean shutdown)09:04
renedoxaddicted to synaptic?09:04
wickersI donno... not the right # I guess09:04
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Rotanbecause there was a piont that i was installing about 200 packages a day09:05
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Rotanevery day09:05
Rotanfor weeks09:05
renedoxlol09:05
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wickersin the end, I'm just holding out till I can go to consoling.09:05
renedoxthat must require a lot of hard drive space...09:05
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wickersI just wish I could distract myself wtih something more healthy..09:05
Rotani added extra repositories and kept d/ling until i reached a system instability so bad i had to reinstall the whole thing09:05
nadia007I did have to force an unclean shutdown.09:05
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renedoxlol09:06
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renedoxnice09:06
Rotandamn the marliatt and sid repositories09:06
nadia007how can I correct the issue and be able to remount it?09:06
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Rotanmasturbation has been linked to a decreased risk of testicular cancer09:06
Rotan...09:06
wickersThen my odds are good.09:06
Rotanso technically, you're better off wackin off09:07
renedoxlol09:07
wickersexactly09:07
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nadia007anyone?09:07
joftanother study found no correlation between masturbation and risk for testicular cancer09:07
Rotancan you show me that study, joft?09:08
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Rotansorry, it was prostate cancer09:08
Rotanstill...09:09
aspromost peoples objections to masturbation arent physical though...09:09
Rotanbetter beatin off than months of anal probing09:09
mrkojeRotan: man whakinit09:10
joftthis site has some scientifically based reasons behind their ideology of practicing non-orgasmic sex (and no masturbation I guess) http://reuniting.info/09:10
mrkojelol09:10
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jgonzalezhi09:10
Rotannon-orgasmic sex...09:10
jgonzalezi have a problem with ubuntu apt sources09:10
Rotanisn't that like.... trench warfare?09:11
jgonzalezfrom yesterday always  the same message in apt-get update09:11
jgonzalezImposible obtener http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  La suma MD5 difiere09:11
jgonzalezImposible obtener http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  La suma MD5 difiere09:11
jgonzalezLeyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho09:11
jgonzalezW: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)09:11
jgonzalezW: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas09:11
jgonzalezwhat could happend ?09:11
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tritiumRotan, please keep on topic09:11
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Rotansorry09:11
Rotananywho...09:11
Rotancan someone help me config my modem?09:11
Rotan:)09:12
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jofthere are two articles about the prostate cancer thing: http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/64/14/4774   http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/gca?allch=&SEARCHID=1085521603701_6621&FULLTEXT=frequency%2Bof%2Bsex%2Bprostate%2Bcancer&JOURNALCODE=&FIRSTINDEX=0&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&gca=jama%3B291%2F13%2F1578&allchb=09:12
tritiumjoft, not here, please09:12
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devnul.ver devnul09:13
mrkojejgonzalez: feliz dia acciones de gracias09:13
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painkilerhow do i make my self sudo most of the time?09:14
tritiumpainkiler, sudo -i09:14
pawantrying to mount my usb drive in breezy. I have these modules : usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd09:15
devnulahhh better09:15
painkilerwill this alow me to be sudo out of the shell?09:15
devnulstupid power management09:15
tritiumpainkiler, no09:15
pawanfdisk -l shows no sda/b09:15
painkilerits really anoying, this whole root, non-root thing09:16
painkileri can access my files on my windows box, but i cant play my music folders...09:16
painkileris there a program to read the itunes stream?09:16
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pawanoh. needed to reinsert, and magically did its stuff09:17
painkilercause none of my tunes work on my ubuntu box... well they do, but its hard to open them every time...09:17
gpAnyone know why Cedega says it can't find 'python'; even though the file exists?09:17
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painkilerxbmc is built on mplayer, and that reads the itunes feed...09:18
painkilerthere must be something out there.09:18
painkileror should i just start a shoutcast feed...09:19
painkilercan i select the tracks i want on a shoutcast feed>09:19
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painkiler*?09:19
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painkilercould someone point me to a site?:09:21
Rotanman...09:21
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Rotani wish intel modems were supported out of the box09:21
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zygisanyone knows what has happened with X in dapper? somehow all drivers are b0rked :)09:22
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Rotanis there a package i can just install to make this work through apt-get?09:22
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RQhey09:33
RQhow come it's so silent? :)09:34
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RQi have an idea of a feature i believe would be very handy for laptop users, but i'm not sure where to propose it - here or on #xorg.09:35
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beginn3rhai09:36
beginn3ri'm on Hoary Hedgehog09:36
RQhi09:36
beginn3rand would like to try mono09:36
beginn3rbut this is what I get when I tried to use apt-get to download it09:37
beginn3rE: Couldn't find package mono-devel09:37
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beginn3rI thought09:37
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RQhm09:38
beginn3rI mean..from google search results09:38
[Jonne] maybe it's in universe or multiverse09:38
beginn3rI found that..that is the correct name for it09:38
RQprobably09:38
beginn3rI enabled all of them..09:38
RQlemme check09:38
beginn3rok09:38
Seveasbeginn3r, if you want mono you MUST upgrade to breezy09:38
beginn3rthanks RQ09:38
Seveasmono on hoary is old, incomplete and buggy09:38
beginn3rSeveas it won't work on Hoary?09:39
[Jonne] and upgrading to breezy should be pretty painless, so you better do that09:39
beginn3rok09:39
beginn3rthanks for the info09:39
RQyour welcome ;)09:39
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ignashoohelp? anyone?09:52
St_Neurionc.dynamix.com09:52
ignashoohelp! anyone?09:53
renedoxwith what?09:53
rob1ignashoo, sure09:53
BROKEN_LADDERhow are the ubuntu desktop settings specified when you start using a new account, and there are no customized settings files in your home?  where is the default ubuntu brown theme being specified at that point?  i want to change it at the system level.09:53
BROKEN_LADDERalso, can i change my xscreensaver login box to get rid of the black face?09:53
ignashooi'm new with Ubuntu, i have an xp installed in my system, can i install ubuntu without deleting xp?09:53
renedoxBROKEN_LADDER: system -> preferences -> theme09:53
BROKEN_LADDERrenedox you missed my question.09:53
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renedoxand it's stored under .gnome09:54
BROKEN_LADDERrenedox i'm talking about when you first start up and you have no theme settings yet.09:54
renedoxor was it .gnome209:54
RQignashoo, tes09:54
RQyes09:54
RQBROKEN_LADDER, there are defaults :)09:54
BROKEN_LADDERrenedox if you delete EVERYTHING in your home directory, and start into gnome, you'll still have the "human" theme.  that's being specified somewhere above home.09:54
BROKEN_LADDERRQ and where are those defined?!09:54
BROKEN_LADDERheh09:54
renedoxwhy do you need to know where they are stored?09:55
RQBROKEN_LADDER, /etc/gnome/ maybe? ;)09:55
BROKEN_LADDERrenedox to change them.09:55
renedox...09:55
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gphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?09:55
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zygisRQ: kas su X'ais? :)09:56
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RQzygis, yr idja :)09:56
BROKEN_LADDERno one told that guy that installing grub will destroy the windows boot09:57
RQprivat09:57
BROKEN_LADDERhopefully grub lets you choose windows partitions..09:57
RQBROKEN_LADDER, oops :)09:57
chriswkhas an HPimage of breezy come out yet?09:57
RQhe never asked anout it :)09:57
BROKEN_LADDERi've been coming in here asking this question for weeks, and no one seems to know. arghhhh09:57
RQ*about09:57
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BROKEN_LADDERhow does one customize/change the look of the xscreensaver login promt?09:58
BROKEN_LADDERprompt09:58
pebsdoes anyone know how to setup dosemu?09:58
b0uncer./dosemu -setup f00!09:59
b0uncersurely not like that09:59
b0uncer:)09:59
rob1BROKEN_LADDER, you could try asking about the default theme in #ubuntu-devel09:59
rob1pebs, try qemu instead09:59
pebsdoes qemu come with any freedos version or somethin?09:59
rob1qemu is gpl free09:59
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rob1pebs, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/10:00
pebsi've got dosemu up and running, and after adding the freedos package, it even tries to boot10:00
gphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?10:00
b0uncerrob1, "gpl-free" or "gpl, thus free"?10:00
pebsnut it shows this error10:00
pebsC: HD1 Pri:1 CHS=    0-1-1 start =     0MB,size =  39210:00
pebsKernel: allocated 41 Diskbuffers = 21812 Bytes in HMA10:00
pebs[dosemu EMS 4.0 driver installed] 10:00
pebsERROR: cpu exception in dosemu code outside of VM86()!10:00
pebstrapno: 0x0e  errorcode: 0x00000004  cr2: 0x468a5b2d10:00
pebseip: 0x468a5b2d  esp: 0xbf9dffc5  eflags: 0x0001028610:00
pebscs: 0x0073  ds: 0x007b  es: 0x007b  ss: 0x007b10:00
pebsPage fault: read instruction to linear address: 0x468a5b2d10:00
pebsCPU was in user mode10:00
crimsunwhoa10:00
pebsException was caused by non-available page10:00
rob1b0uncer, gpl thus free10:00
crimsunplease don't flood in here10:01
pebs/usr/bin/dosemu: line 218:  8831 Violacin de segmento  $SUDO $BINARY $XFLAG "$@"10:01
b0uncerrob1, ok :)10:01
b0uncerfood ->10:01
pebssorry bout that10:01
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rob1pebs, qemu is like vmware but gpled10:01
pebsi tried vmware but installing it was like hell10:01
pebsill give qemu a go10:02
pebsthnx10:02
rob1np10:02
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rob1pebs, qemu is in the ubuntu repos so to install it just do: sudo apt-get install qemi10:02
rob1s/qemi/qemu10:03
pebsok10:03
pebs;)10:03
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zygiswhat's the voodoo spell to unb0rk X in dapper?10:09
RQ:)))10:09
rob1install the correct drivers10:09
crimsunrevert to the previous carnation.10:09
crimsunwhat you want is 6.8.2-7710:09
pavelichi am hammerd i just walked from my friend s house and its 2 and a half miles away\10:09
crimsunwe should have most of the drivers building within the next 30 mins10:09
pavelichso col10:09
pavelichd10:09
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pavelichchicago10:09
zygisah :)10:09
zygisgood10:09
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crimsunhint: always use aptitude to upgrade, not dist-upgrade10:10
bolrodwhy10:10
pavelichi lobe ubuntu10:10
Mabus06what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?10:10
RQthe interface is different10:10
rob1that opens a can of worms..10:11
pavelichcrimsun i rember you dude hes a cool kid, knows his stuff10:11
crimsunI noticed that xserver-xorg-core has been held back due to the drivers ftbfs, so it never upgraded xserver-xorg-core or any of the drivers, thus I wasn't bitten by the bug that zygis just described.10:11
bolrodhrm10:11
bolroddist-upgrade should fix that10:11
pavelichubuntu is the way to go, knows hardware drivers10:11
bolrodapt-get upgrade doesn't take those things to seriously10:11
crimsunbolrod: it will fix it when the drivers are available10:11
bolrodthere is a difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade right10:12
pavelichyo happy thanksgivvin10:12
bolrod:)10:12
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crimsunbolrod: otherwise if you slam through a dist-upgrade you'll end up with the precise issue that zygis described10:12
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pavelichtypinmg is hard10:12
bolrodI havent read what he described10:12
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pittiBROKEN_LADDER: hi10:12
zygisyeah, kids, don't do this at home10:12
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nadshi guys.... i messed up and edited grub's menu.lst wrong... so now during bootup it crashes to busybox. I know exactly what i did wrong... is there a way i could edit menu.lst from busybox?10:12
fonsk3nboot with a live cd, nads10:13
pavelichi am  dominatingh gnotertris right now10:13
pittiBROKEN_LADDER: sorry, I don't follow #ubuntu ATM (I just react to highlights, and I'm not the gnome master)10:13
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nadsis livecd the only way fonsk3n?10:13
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foxinesswhat i need to login to my phpmyadmin "ubuntu 5.10 local" ?10:13
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BROKEN_LADDERTHANKS10:14
fearlAny ops around?10:14
RQnads,10:14
BROKEN_LADDERall your settings are belong to us?10:14
nadscause i don't have a cdwriter10:14
RQnads, you can edit grub options in grub itself10:14
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nadsRQ: where is that?10:14
RQget to the grub menu10:14
RQthen press E10:14
RQon the line which you want to boot10:14
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RQthat'll open it's options dialog. Press E again to edit the options you want10:15
pppoe_dudeso how safe is psi with my gpg key? will it do any funny stuff?10:15
RQwhen you've done, press B10:15
searcher`foxiness: any valid mysql user10:15
nadsreally? i figured it wouldn't be possible....10:15
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nadsi'll try it out now10:15
nadsthanks :)10:15
searcher`foxiness: if you just installed, `root' without a password will do it10:15
RQnads, unless GRUB itself is broken10:15
blodkacan azureus work on ubuntu live CD 5.10 ?10:15
nadsgrub works... but it doesn't load the right kernel module10:15
foxinesssearcher`, indeed :)10:15
bolrodnasty10:15
bolrod:)10:15
nadsi'll be right back, hopefully from ubuntu :)10:15
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bolrodblodka: possibly... I dont know why not10:16
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blodkathinking maybe it uses a different java10:16
foxinesssearcher`, it work now :) thank you Rimas10:16
bolroddifferent java?....10:16
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bolrodI think you only need 1.4 for azureus10:16
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blodkawhich java do i have on the LIVE CD 5.1 ?10:17
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bolrodI dont know10:17
bolroddo you have java at all?10:17
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blodkadunno10:17
bolrodopen a terminal and try  java --version10:17
bolrodor something10:17
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bolrodhrm10:17
fearl!ubotu ops10:17
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth10:17
blodkai wish there was a way to save your settings on the LIVE version10:17
searcher`foxiness: make sure you change that empty root password though if someone else can get to the database10:18
blodkai could copy some settings to a usb drive,10:18
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blodkabut, I'd have to write a script to copy them back when i reboot10:18
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rob1fearl, why don't you just spit out whatever your problem is?10:18
bolrod'java -version' works10:18
foxinesswhen i try to install phpmyadmin it installed php4 when i have php5 and i see the dep and need php4 | php5 .... is this | = or and take the first one or what10:18
blodkak10:18
pavelichin chicago its about 20 degrees right niow and i just walked 3 miles from my buddies place10:18
fearlrob1: because its not related to the channel in general  :/10:19
rob1fearl, msg them direct then10:19
rob1otherwise its off topic10:19
fearlrob1: trying  :/10:19
bolrod20 degrees is how cold?10:19
pavelichfoxiness: look for a new tar.gz10:19
bolrod:>10:20
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fearlbolrod: about -5 or so10:20
bolrodaha10:20
foxinesssearcher`, i forget where the file need to change this ^_^10:20
bolrodits 2 C here10:20
blodkai don't think this java will work for azureus10:20
bolrodits still morning though10:20
bolrodblodka: why not?10:20
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bolrodwhat version10:20
blodkait's hmmm10:20
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FufachewIs there a locale that shows temperature in Kelvin? That i'm dying for10:20
blodkanow i see that it is 1.4.210:21
bolrodwell10:21
blodkamaybe is ok10:21
bolrodcheck what you need for azureus10:21
bolrodI think it will do fine10:21
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i give different permissions to a file for different groups.10:21
roy_10:21
blodkathis live CD is better than the Gentoo10:21
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BROKEN_LADDERroy_ chami nan chung!10:21
blodkamore stuff works out of the box10:21
fearlBROKEN_LADDER: read up on acl's with linux...10:21
blodkaeven samba was pretty easy10:21
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BROKEN_LADDERroy_ fo do dung hai shi soo wai10:21
BROKEN_LADDERaccess control lists?10:22
fearlBROKEN_LADDER: yeah10:22
bolrodprobably10:22
bolrodthere is no real other way I think10:22
fearlBROKEN_LADDER: thats kinda the point of them...10:22
blodkai'm hoping to make mplayer work too ---  but it is a pita so far10:22
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juliuxmorning10:22
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BROKEN_LADDERroy_ eni chi shun no wai gai genzhou10:22
bolrodblodka: hehe.. mplayer on a live cd?10:22
anav1mis there an easy way to make tar -xvf *.tar work, or do I have to write a script to handle it?10:22
blodkalol10:22
juliuxi am search for a dvd label for breezy, can some on help me?10:22
bolrodanav1m: erh10:22
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blodkai think it can maybe work10:23
fearlblodka: apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-multiverse-plugins (last one might be wrong)10:23
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blodkadunno  if i have multiverse hooked up yet10:23
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blodkathanks -=---10:24
blodkai must go now .....10:24
blodka'til late10:24
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anav1mbolrod, you were saying?10:24
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bolrodwhy should tar -xf *tar not work?10:24
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anav1mbolrod, have you tried it?  it doesn't work10:25
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gphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?10:25
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olicatdoes anyone know if there is a command to tell me how much space is being used inside a directory?10:25
fearlblodka: apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is what I meant10:25
bolrodolicat: du10:25
zygisanav1m: for i in *.tar; do tar -xvf $i; done10:25
bolrodolicat: du -sh is probably easiest10:25
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anav1mzygis, thx10:25
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nameeate1can anyone help me out with a repository list for hoary?10:26
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CookedGryphonhi, i'm running xfce (soooo much nicer than gnome or kde...apart from the rox file manager) and i ran nautilus instead of rox-filer, forgetting that it would take over the desktop if called as just nautilus, now xfdesktop won't start up anymore, can anyone give me any hints as to where i should look to re-enable it10:26
fearlnameeate1: what exactly do you want?10:26
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fearlnameeate1: you're not being very clear...10:26
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zygisCookedGryphon: you need to launch nautilus with --no-desktop10:27
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fearlCookedGryphon: make sure nautilus isn't in your .xsession ... or /etc/X11/Xsession scripts...10:27
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nameeate1a list of repo's for aptget for ubuntu hoary hedgehog10:28
fearlCookedGryphon: plus what zygis just said...10:28
CookedGryphonit doesn't run nautilus at startup any more, it jsut stopped running xfdesktop10:28
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zygisCookedGryphon: have you tried running xfdesktop from terminal to see any output?10:29
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CookedGryphonyep, it runs fine10:29
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`6ogdoes anyone know about chrooting proftpd?10:29
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roy_hello.erverbody10:29
fearlnameeate1: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/   <-- all of those... 'deb url/path/to/directory/before/dists dist section10:30
zygisCookedGryphon: then readd it into your session10:30
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Madpilot!repos10:30
ubotu[repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource10:30
fearlnameeate1: browse archive.ubuntu.com for a better understanding of that... and look at your current list...10:30
Madpilotnameeate1: see ubotu ^^^10:30
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nameeate1thanks10:30
fearlMadpilot: thats not what he wants... he wants mirrors...10:31
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rsilvaHello, there is a bug in the kernel in Ubuntu bugzilla whose status is PENDINGUPLOAD since 10/27th. Which is the best way to call attention to this? E-mail the responsible?10:32
rsilvaBug description: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1847310:32
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infralitehello, doesanyone have any guides for installing enlightenment properlyunder ubuntu?10:32
gpTorrent program for Xubuntu?10:32
infralitegnome is taking over the desktop no matter how hard i try10:32
zygisrsilva: I'd suggest adding yet another comment for this bug10:32
CookedGryphonwhat's the best filemanager? I like rox's speed but the themes that i've got working look ugly, and nautilus is unbelievably slow10:33
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arnduckyubotu, tell me about easysource10:33
rob1CookedGryphon, sh10:33
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rsilvazygis: Yes, maybe I'll do that. I remember seeing some bug reports with many follow-ups with other people saying: I have the problem too.10:34
CookedGryphonrob1: lol fair point10:34
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robotgeekCookedGryphon: maybe you might want to turn of all the metacity effects?10:35
CookedGryphonbut still, for when my fingers are tired n i'm feeling lazy, or my granny wants to use my computer, what's the best filemanager10:35
CookedGryphonrobotgeek, no no, i like the effects n things, its just in comparison to rox nautilus is so much slower, and that's nothign to do with metacity10:35
robotgeekCookedGryphon: rox was fast, but i never got used to it. i just use nautilus now10:35
zygisCookedGryphon: fpr the time being you won't find anything better than nautilus or rox10:36
fearlCookedGryphon: Nautilus spatial list view is my fav... not slow at all here...10:36
zygiss/fpr/for/10:36
arnduckyNow that I've got all my gak installed an configured on Breezey for about five days, how do I upgrade to Dapper Duck so I can start fighting with things all over again?  (And is there an Ubuntu way to back up the old installation aside from third-party disk cloning tools?)10:36
arnducky=oD10:36
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infraliteany answers for me?10:37
fearlarnducky: change instances of breezy to dapper ... and dist-upgrade10:37
zygisarnducky: if you want end up being unable to start X, then just dist-upgrade right now10:37
fearlarnducky: I really don't think you want to do that though, if you don't know how already, you likely really shouldn't...10:37
arnduckyfearl, that's all?  Just like going from Debian's Woody to Sarge or Etch?10:37
gpWhat is the name of a good torrent prog?10:37
zygisarnducky: absolutely10:37
fearlarnducky: umm... yeah...10:37
fearlarnducky: you are using the same tools here dude...10:38
zygisarnducky: but you have been warned! :)10:38
fearlarnducky: you expected them to make it harder just cuz its a derivative?10:38
nameeate1gp: rtorrent, torrentflux, bittornado etc, google/freshmeat/sourceforge10:38
arnduckywhat about debconf, gconf  and other pkg conf tools?10:38
fearlarnducky: debconf... yes... gconf is used by gnome, nothing to do with packages...10:39
CookedGryphonokay, update on my nautilus stopping xfdesktop, even when i run nautilus --no-desktop, it kills xfdesktop, i just hadn't noticed because the background pic stays10:39
fearlarnducky: I really don't think you should run a devel version...10:39
arnduckyThings used to break when I would upgrade distros or even just mix apt sources) under GNU/Linux10:39
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arnduckyfearl, too late -- I'm running testing/unstable in another distro already -- heh10:39
nameeate1  /whois matthew10:40
Madpilotarnducky: mixing repos is not recommended...10:40
zygisCookedGryphon: it really kills it?10:40
nameeate1erm10:40
arnduckyfearl, what do you thing you know about me?10:40
fearlarnducky: sid is more stable than dappy10:40
robotgeekCookedGryphon: there's a gconf setting to disable nautilus from ever drawing the desktop10:40
nadsthanks RQ, it worked :)10:40
CookedGryphonzygis: yep10:40
CookedGryphonrobotgeek: ok, i'll have a look for that10:40
arnduckyMadpilot, sometimes it was the only way to get packages or libs I wanted short of coding them (ewww -- icky coding!)10:40
arnducky;-D10:40
rajasunarnducky: testing/unstablke? heh me on Unstable/Experimental in Debian and Dapper on Ubuntu ;-)10:41
fearlarnducky: compilation != coding  :/10:41
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CookedGryphonrobotgeek: oh, but what if i want to use gnome for some reason one day?10:41
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fearlarnducky: just add a breezy-backports entry to sources.list   :/10:41
zygisCookedGryphon: restore the default setting? :)10:41
robotgeekCookedGryphon: it just doesn't put the icons in. plus, you can restore the setting10:41
arnduckywhat about compiling?  (I said 'coding').10:41
CookedGryphonoooh, don't like changing settings jsut to use a different desktop10:42
CookedGryphoni try n get everythign to jsut work10:42
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Fufachewwhere can i get sex? bash: sex: command not found10:42
nadsi have another question... XMMS only plays mp3s from my windows' ntfs mount only after i play a song from the ext partition.. any idea why?10:42
fearlarnducky: I was correcting you... you needn't code anything to get the latest and greatest... just compile it for your environment... and voila10:42
arnduckyI've got ANSI c, CGI  and Java hackers that I subcontract to when I *really* want something coded.10:42
fearlFufachew: cliphunter.com is your best bet10:43
MrFartsnads, that's just bizarre10:43
arnduckyfearl, you have no idea what I might or might not want -- heh.10:43
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zygisFufachew: you should be doing that in chrooted environment, privately10:43
viviersfwhy is 32bit mode off on the hdd by default in ubuntu10:43
viviersf?10:43
arnducky("Open mouth and remove foot", as they say -- hehehe)10:43
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arnduckyviviersf, it is?10:43
nameeate1how can i close a 'window' in irssi?10:44
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nadsfarts i know... :) when i first try to load the mp3 from the windows partition it says "check that your soundcard is configured etc..."... afterwards it loads properly from the ext partition.... and then when i try the same file on the windows partition it works10:44
Fufachewchroot: cannot change root directory to sex: No such file or directory10:44
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viviersfyes arnducky10:44
fearlnameeate1: /window close10:44
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viviersfhdparm /dev/hda10:44
nameeate1thanks10:44
viviersfwould give you 0 ( 16 bit )10:44
arnduckyviviersf, in Breezey?!?10:44
viviersfyes10:44
zygisviviersf: try looking in /etc/hdparm.conf10:44
viviersfzygis, i uncommented the IO thing in there with no avail :/10:44
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arnduckyI hadn't noticed slow disk access, and I've got four ATA + 2 ATAPI devs10:44
viviersfarnducky, its not that slow cos dma is on10:45
viviersfbut10:45
arnducky(/dev/sda for the fourth ATA-5 device -- I use an external USB 2.0 enclosure)10:45
viviersfdoing hdparm -c3 /dev/hda etc10:45
viviersfwill make speed much faster10:45
arnduckyStill seek time to file must go WAAAY up10:45
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arnduckyviviersf, thatnks for the tip10:46
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nadswhat command do i use to get the kernel version?10:46
robotgeekarnducky: would hdparm to a external usb enclosure work?10:46
robotgeeknads: uname -r10:46
viviersfarnducky, im trying to get that thing working on impi by default10:46
viviersfand i dont want to make my own rc script10:46
viviersfwould rather try to fix it10:46
rajasunnads: uname -rsa10:46
arnduckyI'd probably never though of checking to see if something so stupid is suboptimal10:46
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nadscool10:46
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viviersfwhy you laughing arnducky ?10:47
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robotgeekarnducky: no, i don't know the answer to that. i am asking you if you have done it! i have a usb enclossure too, and it's slow :)10:47
Tony327ubuntu is in french???10:47
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viviersf#ubuntu-fr10:47
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josehi all, anyone could help me mounting my ntfs in ubuntu?10:48
RQjose, go to places > computer10:48
josei cannot find any howto or tutorial, if you now a good one, i would be really thanksfull10:48
arnduckyrobotgeek, no idea, since I've never tried it.  My USB 1.1 (12MB/s at 'fullspeed' running off of Via UHCI chipset)is the bottleneck, so I've never bothered.  Plus the drive is just cloned partitions and backup images -- I use it for back-up instead of tapes or DVDs since it's less 'messy'10:48
joseok10:48
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Madpilotjose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:49
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Tony327#ubuntu-fr10:49
robotgeekarnducky: same here :)10:49
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RQjose, ah right, i remember that :)) one of my friends has that issue10:49
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RQit's mounted but you cannot read it, right?10:49
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joseno, it is not mounted10:49
zygisTony327: /j #ubuntu-fr10:49
josedo i need to install any kernel module or it is already installed in ubuntu?10:50
arnduckyrobotgeek, I still try to keep my part'ns under 4.699 x10^9 Bytes though10:50
jose(i'm coming from fedora)10:50
Madpilotjose: the URL I gave you above should help...10:50
robotgeekarnducky: lol, kk10:50
rajasunjose: what Madpilot just told u. Scroll up10:50
joseok, i will read that first10:50
RQjose, no10:50
josethanks10:50
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arnduckyI've got a dual layer burner now, but media is still too expensive for me and I only have doze32 apps for making spansets and compressed image files -- which I'm trying to wean myself off of (though I'm tempted to buyt Partition Magic 8.0 since it has better Ext3 support and even supports 'end-lusers' who want to dual/multi-boot with Linux)10:52
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olicatbolrod, thanks10:53
nameeate1is blackbox or icebox better? I know somethings are personal opinion but iirc one of them was better supported10:53
RQarnducky, what is the question? :D10:53
arnduckyThey have 'wizard' scripts that will help you to make all the mount points, resize your Winblows, mange the MBR, etc.   It's getting to the point where a total n00b could almost handle multi-boot.10:53
viviersfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa10:53
viviersfqemu is so slow10:53
arnduckyRQ, no question.  Does therehave to be one?  I was just quacking at robotgeek.10:54
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BROKEN_LADDERwhat is smeg called now?10:54
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RQah10:54
rajasunalacarte10:55
arnduckyI found gparted/parted to be somewhat buggy -- blank GTK2 errors with not even a hex addy10:55
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nameeate1anyone know about old compaq deskpro's and no sound? :|10:56
pittiBROKEN_LADDER: N_LADDER> one last thing before i depart..  i suggest you guys make it so that when you log in on a new screen, and you're already logged in, that the password box from xscreensaver somehow be bypassed, to create the "illusion" of an xp-style multi-login system.10:56
robotgeeknameeate1: not to start a flamewar, i've never heard of icebox. blackbox is fine, fluxbox is great10:56
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pittiBROKEN_LADDER: why do we need that? Unix window managers have provided multiple virtual desktops for years already10:57
arnduckyI might install a static ~-dbg version if I can find it though and send some core dumps or whatever, because I think a free and open, 'self-hosted' dynamic partition manager would be akiller app for Linux to beat the hell out of anything they finally bundle with Longhorn10:57
nameeate1ahh that could be it, thanks for that10:57
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arnducky(besides Symantec's licens just sucks the biscuit)10:57
ex-parrothow am I meant to get VLC to use GTK properly under Breezy? anyone?10:57
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ColD_7what is the command in terminal to copy files to other location?10:58
ex-parrotColD_7, 'cp'10:58
arnduckyex-parrot, that's a really general question, can you be more specific -- maybe even pastebin some error message you're getting?10:58
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chriswkAnyone knows if 5.10 is compatible with the nc6120 out of the box or if an ISO of HPUbuntu of 5.10 is out yet? Can only find Hoary and already have that installed10:58
dima202Hello10:58
ex-parrotarnducky, it just doesn't look like other GTK apps, or like it did under Hoary/Warty10:58
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arnduckyuhhh... 'look' is a problem?10:58
ex-parrotnot a big one no :P I'm just wondering why it's changed since the last release is all10:59
dima202I have a question about themes. I downloaded a theme for GAIM but how do I use it? How do I install it to GAIM? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2234810:59
Lardarsedoes anyone here know why i am getting warnings whenever i try to update? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4978 is the warnings that i am getting11:00
scanwinderhow do i start another X session in ubuntu? when i go ctrl-alt-F? and type in startx and it says sumthin about it says its already active on display 011:00
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infralitethatmeans x has not died yet11:00
Lardarsescanwinder: you mean restart X ?11:00
joseok, thanks for the howto about ntfs, it is working perfectly!11:00
infralitekill -9 it11:00
Lardarselol infralite11:00
scanwinderLadarse: i dont want to kill the one i already have, i want 2 open11:01
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josei have another question... my system is not rebooting, i have to stop it manually11:01
Lardarsehmm...11:01
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joseis there any way to reapir this?11:01
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Lardarsescanwinder: i'll defer to an expert, then11:01
josereapir = repair11:01
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arnducky AGP 8x or PCI Express x16 lane native support  <-- hmmm how can a card support both at the same time?11:02
ironwolfFormatting an xd memory card in ubuntu... mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1 (or correct device?) yes?11:02
arnduckyMaybe they ship two versions?11:02
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RQvlc uses GTK111:03
RQbleh11:03
RQwhich basically sucks a lot11:03
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scanwinderanyone know how i can start a second instance of X? im trying to make it so i can switch 2 another one when i die in americas army because i cant minimize it11:03
snadgehow come the latest breezy "security update" for the kernel, also gave me a working boot splash screen and also fixed a message log storm after resume from hibernation?? :P11:03
arnduckyex-parrot, have you treid asking the developers (or looking for/designing your own skin -- if that is supported)11:04
pittisnadge: we did not actually change any code for that11:04
dima202I see a lot of people are helping other people. But has anyone here installed a theme to gaim? Like this one: rfectly!11:04
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pittisnadge: I suppose that the kernel upgrade triggered an initramfs rebuild, which was missing in your previous install11:04
dima202http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2234811:04
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pittisnadge: we will fix this in dapper (automatic initramfs rebuild)11:05
ex-parrotarnducky,  of course not arnducky I just lept in to IRC to complain ;)11:05
snadgeoh okay, i thought it a bit strange to complain about bonus fixes but that explains it11:05
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snadgeit was printing a lost interrupt message every 20ms, and generated a 300mb messages file ;)11:07
arnduckyrobotgeek, general question -- say you're running blackbox, fluxbox, icewm or some other WM and you exec a fullscreen mode x-program?  What happens to all the running processes and is it any different than if you are running under kde or gnome with kdm+kicker+kde or gdm+gnome-de?11:07
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scanwinderdima202: try reading the readme in it11:08
dima202I dont see the readme :(11:09
scanwinderdima202: tar -zxf filename.tar.gz11:09
scanwinderits under the folder gaim in it11:09
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arnduckyI used to think that xdm, gdm, and kdm were all fairly interchangeable... also I read something about moving/switching x-windows processes between x-consoles and now I'm fairly confused about how it all works (I though binding something to :0.0 and moving it would require a chroot script at the least which would suspend the process, require a completely new x-window UI shell and rebind -- possibly running into security problems in t11:10
arnduckyhe attempt)11:10
BROKEN_LADDERi was in my home directory and i almost just did "sudo rm -rf *"11:10
BROKEN_LADDERfokk11:10
BROKEN_LADDERthen i realized i meant to be in ~/DOWNLOADS11:11
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joseluisHola11:11
joseluisjejej11:11
joseluisk tal todos...11:11
dima202All I see is the gaim folder, no readme :( scanwinder11:11
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ColD_7what is the command to extract an tar.gz files in terminal?11:12
tumitar xfvz11:12
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arnduckyBROKEN_LADDER, maybe replace /bin/rm with a link to a script front end that calls it dynamically and PROMTPS you -- hehehe11:12
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joseluisHabla Spaish?11:12
joseluishi11:12
arnduckyno hable es11:12
joseluiseeee11:12
joseluiseres espaol11:13
joseluisjeje11:13
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arnduckytry /LIST #ubuntu11:13
scanwinderdima202: cd into the gaim folder and open the file "README" try "vim README" when ur in the folder11:13
arnduckyand /LIST #*es11:13
BROKEN_LADDERarnducky or an alias11:13
dima202ooh11:13
joseluisjoder11:13
joseluisEnglish prostitute soon!!!!!!!!11:14
arnduckyBROKEN_LADDER, if you alias something to  it, then you have another way to call the same function and N00K your install11:14
joseluismejor SPANISH eehh!!!!11:14
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dima202scanwinder, ~/Desktop/gaim$ ls11:14
dima202buttons  dialogs  icons  logo.png  status11:14
ColD_7is there any command in terminal that can copy the whole directory?11:14
BROKEN_LADDERarnducky ?11:14
arnduckyjoseluis, take a look on ubuntu.com at the Support --> IRC sectionh11:14
nameeate2man cp11:15
nameeate2something along the lines of recursive iirc11:15
arnduckyI think there is a list of regional IRC channels11:15
Lardarsecp -r ?11:15
MadpilotColD_7: probably appending -R or something will work, but "man cp" like nameeate1 said...11:15
arnduckyIt's probably #ubuntu-es11:15
Madpilot!es11:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:15
nameeate2thats probably it, cp -r * /blah/blah11:15
Lardarsethe only reason i know hat is becaise rm -r is remove recursively11:16
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Lardarsebut i don't recommend you do that11:16
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arnduckynameeate1, does cp copy .* by default?11:16
Lardarseand ESPECIALLY not as root11:16
mememehi all :)11:16
nameeate2arnducky: I have no idea :)11:16
Lardarsehi mememe11:16
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arnduckyI've recently noticed that the kubuntu GUI doesn't11:16
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mememeHas anyone heard of problems playing DVDs? I can play mpeg/avi ok, but when i play DVDs i get no sound? (in totem player)11:17
dima202ehh scanwinder, left.. :( Only person who tried to help11:17
arnduckyerr .* files that is11:17
arnduckymememe, waht is thje backend?  gstreamer, xine, mplayer?11:17
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mememearnducky, totem-xine11:17
kestasyou can use mplayer as a totem backend?11:18
arnduckySome of them may use a different codec for .mpg audio and .cda etc11:18
Lardarsedoe any1 here know what i have to do to get gcc to work?11:18
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kestasmememe, I wuold try and play around with some settings in xine, youre more likely to find a config option in there11:18
dima202 Can someone please help me out? I am trying to install a gAIM theme but not sure how to  do this, here is the url: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2234811:18
mememearnducky, sound when watching DVDs work in VLC by the way.11:18
arnduckythat's my best guess, but since I need to install libdvdcss and xine-ui on this system anyhow, perhaps we can work on it together tonight.11:19
arnducky(Crimsum ist the guy you wnat for sound problems -- he seems to understand Linux sound architecture and the directory structure very well, especially ALSA)11:20
arnduckymememe, it msut be a binding/pipe issue -- or hardware11:20
mememeIt's kind of weird since totem-xine can play local files with sound.. maybe it's some /dev/dvd permission or something? Even though it's weird that VLC can playback with sound.11:20
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arnduckymememe, how is your DVD drive cabled?  Do the programs that work use digital audio extraction or the signal input into your soundcard directly?11:21
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nameeate2is there anyway to drop into console mode (closing X/gdm) with out rebooting?11:22
snadgedima202, the instructions are on that page?11:22
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arnduckyAnd, BTW, mememe are you a kiwifruit (.nz) that used to hang on Unet?11:22
mememearnducky, good question i guess :) It's a laptop :)11:22
mememearnducky, nope, sorry :)11:22
arnduckyI see .se11:22
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dima202snadge, reallY? Hmm... Maybe I am blind? Where do you see this?11:22
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arnduckymememe, it should be hardwired -- no cp3-connectors unless it is a very strange laptop11:23
kniteI want to modify the Breezy DVD ISO before burning it to media (mostly just to add more stuff to fill up the disk); how would you suggest I go about this?11:23
snadgedima202, "Just extract the contents and overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/ to install."11:23
snadgenasty ;)11:23
mememe** (totem:10603): WARNING **: Failed to load '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.x ml': Failed to open file '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml': No such file or  directory11:23
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mememeI get that error while choosing "play movie" from the dvd menu.11:23
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mememelibdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/gs/.dvdnav/DVDVolume.map'11:24
mememelibdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fd0000. Regions: 211:24
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mememegot that during startup11:24
ColD_7what is the command for deleting directory in terminal?11:24
dima202Thanks snadge :))) I still don't see that on the site though11:24
dima202:)11:24
arnducky(AFAIK, there are no mini-pci sound cards for laptops yet)  Although I've seen mini-pci voice modems that have internal connector cables (probably for WOL thogh,. not an audio signal)11:24
kniteI'm thinking about just creating a new bootable DVD project (I'm using Nero right now) and just including all the files, but I still need to get a boot image somehow...11:24
zygisnameeate2: ctrl-alt-f1 hides X (alt+f7-12 brings back), ctrl-alt-backspace kills X11:24
arnduckymememe, how did you install xine, and do you ahve xine-ui or just libxine?11:24
snadgedima202, in the middle of the description, right in the middle of the page ;)11:25
kniteColD_7: rm -r11:25
mememearnducky, apt-get install totem-xine11:25
nameeate2hmm, is that the best way to kill it tho? (I want to try out fluxbox)11:25
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kniteColD_7: you should probably do "rm --help" to look over the help first11:25
arnduckyOh, and BTW, I need a fresh copy of libdvdcss (ver. 2 preferably).11:25
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ColD_7:)11:26
agnulhi all, I'm trying to install breezy on a dell desktop with no ps2 ports, and both the live cd and the install cd complain about the usb controller. Error messages same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=491729&postcount=6. Disabling usb devices works, but then no keybord, so no install :-)11:26
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agnulwhat could I try?11:26
Lardarsedoe any1 here know what i have to do to get gcc to work?11:26
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dima202ooh, i see it now! THe font is soo small! THanks snadge !! :)11:27
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dima202Although I am getting an error saying I can't write to that dir11:27
kniteanybody here try to create a custom ubuntu ISO?11:27
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Nermalagnul: tried booting with pci=noacpi ?11:29
snadgedima202 sudo in front of it.. you'll have to do it as the super user, or root11:29
arnduckymememe the totem-xine package uses a different directory structure and links than xine-ui.  I recommend purging it, binding totem to gstreamer instead and building xine according to the 'advanced' instructions found on http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9655&package_id=66558rg11:29
Lardarseok...11:29
agnulNermal: nope. I'll give it a try11:29
Lardarsenext question11:29
arnduckyerr,t hat'st eh SF mirror list not the instructions -- jsut a second11:29
dima202snadge, sudo mv gaim/ /usr/share/pixmaps ?11:30
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Lardarsewhat's the easiest way to get an md5 checksum of a file?11:30
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snadgedima202, i'd have a look in both paths first and check to see if thats the right thing to do11:30
arnduckyhttp://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#BUILDING11:30
arnduckyAnymore surfing I can do for yoiu -- heh?11:31
arnducky;-)11:31
arnducky If you have installed xine-lib to a non-standard prefix, make sure that you have $prefix/bin in your PATH and that your linker finds libs in $prefix/lib - otherwise....11:32
arnduckyexport PATH="$prefix/bin:$PATH"11:32
arnducky   export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$prefix/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"11:32
arnducky to make sure libxine can be found by the frontend(s).11:32
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PatrikJohanssonanyone know of a good direct connect client for ubuntu??11:33
agnullive acpi=off pci=noacpi => same errors11:33
dima202snadge, I am not sure what do you mean?11:34
snadgediam202: check to see if there are files in both paths, with the same names.. the intention is to overwrite the image files, with new ones11:34
dima202yes11:35
robotgeekarnducky: sorry, was away11:35
dima202yes snadge11:35
snadgedima202, do that then and restart gaim11:35
dima202sudo mv gaim/ /usr/share/pixmaps/ mv: cannot overwrite directory `/usr/share/pixmaps/gaim'11:35
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dima202I also tried to rename the original one11:36
robotgeekarnducky: full screen X program? i guess nothing different should happen. (full screen in firefox/Konqueror works fine)11:36
arnduckynp -- BTW, what was taht hdparm command?  I didn't get it copied into my notes before it left the scrollbuffer11:36
robotgeekarnducky: scroll up?11:36
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arnduckyrobotgeek, waht bout 'high\ly compiled' binaries, like commercial games?11:36
snadgedima202, is gaim running? if so quit it11:36
dima202snadge:  sudo rename /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim /gaim2/ Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"11:36
dima202        (Missing operator before hare?)11:36
dima202syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"11:36
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dima202No, it is not running snadge11:37
snadgedima202, oh dear.. use mv not rename11:37
robotgeekarnducky: should be fine, i guess. i havent run any games yet11:37
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arnduckyrobotgeek, you knw -- they guy who said that IDE was running in 16-bit access mode (allegedly by default under Breezey)11:37
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dima202snadge, oh okay, got it, why not rename? It's only for files, not dirs?11:38
robotgeekarnducky: 16 bit? looks messed up to me :)11:38
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infralitefor the mother of all things good, has anyone use enlightenment under ubuntu here?11:38
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robotgeekinfralite: u've missed the e16/e17 bandwagon by 3 hours, i guess11:39
infralitecrap :/11:39
snadgedima202, there is no rename.. only mv, which achieves the same thing11:39
dima202snadge, strange.. it still look like same old gaim. WHen I started I got the new logo though11:39
arnduckyIf you call the executable from a different console, how would you even tell the game to bind to localhost;display_dev#0;screen:0.1 (tty8 usually)11:39
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robotgeekarnducky: export display? not sure, i'm speculating11:40
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arnduckyIO_support   =  1 (32-bit)11:40
infraliteanyone manage to run an alternativedektop to nautilus while under enlightenment?11:40
arnduckymine is on -- I have no idea what he's talking about11:40
infralite*alternative desktop11:41
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dima202EH.. I guess it's not meant to be, I give up11:41
robotgeekinfralite: you might need to have nautilus --no-desktop, or there's a option in the gconf11:41
arnduckyinfralite, I was just picking robotgeek's brain about something related -- heh11:41
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infraliterobotgeek: nautilus is dead11:42
infraliteit exists no more11:42
infralitei killed it, i slaughered it11:42
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infralitenow i'm tring to get rox for my desktop, or by all means, anything else11:42
dima202I got rox on my Zaurus11:42
arnduckyrobotgeek, what's the difference between calling an x program from a console and calling it from inside a shell running in a preexisting instance of an x-server?11:43
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robotgeekinfralite: ah. i dunno any other file managers. there's something called cdargs if you like cli, or mc11:43
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arnducky(I'm thinking that somehow the x server keeps track and 'tags' processes spawned in it's own 'userspace')11:43
robotgeekarnducky: calling x proggie without x running, you mean?11:44
arnduckyBut it's confusing to me since you can spawn one display manager or even just anotehr x server from within that shell11:44
robotgeekarnducky: i am not really sure of what you are trying to do, might be outta my league :)11:44
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arnduckyrobotgeek, I want to call (or use a shell script to call x) and then exec anotehr program without x telling me that the display is locked11:45
arnduckyI also want a better fundamental understanding of how this stuff works.11:46
robotgeekarnducky: and that shell program runs in another tty?11:46
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arnducky tty6:\# foo -sWiTChes start_arg [bindpath]  && exit11:47
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arnduckythat's basically what I want to do11:47
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arnduckywhere Im calling the name of the x-console I want to run it in 'bindpath'11:48
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arnduckyxdm, gdm and kdm automatically call xinit, startx or X11:48
robotgeekarnducky: hmm, it's outta my league :)11:49
wickedpuppyarnducky, mail to x.org devel mailing list11:49
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arnduckyrobotgeek, how do you start your fluxbox?11:49
robotgeekarnducky: i use openbox, and i use it within gnome :)11:50
arnduckyrobotgeek, what?!?11:50
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robotgeekarnducky: yeah,it's a shocker ain't it :)11:51
arnduckyDo you meant hat you actually login to a gnome DE using gdm | kdm | xdm and then type "fluxbox" in an x-term?11:51
N6REJmorning robotgeek11:51
N6REJet al11:51
robotgeekarnducky: openbox is only a WM, so all it does is replace metacity11:51
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robotgeekN6REJ: mornin11:51
robotgeekarnducky: openbox --replace11:51
qingfangyes11:52
ColD_7how do i install the downloaded cursors?11:53
arnduckyIt is, cause I thought you could just add fluxbox, enlightenment, icewm, (whatever) to the display manager's list of menu options (along with gnome, kde, failsafe gnome etc...).11:53
arnducky=o\11:53
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N6REJquick question.... I drug out an old p2-350 I had laying around and I need to make it into a workstation PRIMARILY for browsing, but also to run some office applications & be a print server.  BUT its only got a 4G and a 1.3G HD!  should I boot with live cd, and if so, will it use the HD to save the configurations or...........?11:53
arnduckyrobotgeek, I thought you used fluxbox or blackbox, not openbox11:54
arnducky=(11:54
robotgeekarnducky: used to use them, don't use them now11:54
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N6REJsay hey belutz!11:54
robotgeekarnducky: they are added at /etc/gdm/Sessions/11:54
N6REJltns11:54
Belutzhai N6REJ11:54
N6REJyou ever get that cd I sent?11:55
arnduckyN6REJ, just install directly, unless you want to copy partitions or data outside of the installer's partitioner11:55
N6REJarnducky, not much room.. tried regular breezy install, and it complained cause it tried to copy the entire cd onto the HD11:55
arnduckyOr unless you want to test for hardware compatibility with the static driver set on the CD 9which includes most of them).11:55
N6REJarnducky, run that last part by me in english please?  Sounds about right?11:56
arnduckyN6REJ, that's nto necessary IMO -- were you thinking about the M$ 'doze way of copying th install CD and then not being prompted for it later?11:56
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arnduckyN6REJ, a live CD has all the common drivers that its designers think most users will need.11:57
N6REJno no, I tried a second ago to install breezy standard.  it got so far and said "ACK ran outa room copying rest of files from CD"!11:57
arnduckyBut they do not need to live on your disk.11:57
arnduckyHow much RAM, and did you do memtest?11:58
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N6REJarnducky, ok, now, if I boot with live CD can I get it to save the "customizations" to the HD?  in otherwords just use the live cd for the parts that won't change?...........  :( as I say that it doesn't sound right.11:58
N6REJno, did not do memtest.11:58
arnduckyUmm, I don't really know -- you'll have to check site.11:59
N6REJ384? let me check11:59
arnduckyA 4GB partitions should be lots11:59
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N6REJjust make it one big one?11:59
arnduckyIf I were you, I'd make the 4 GB pt'n into two -- one for swap and put /home on the 1.311:59
Mabus06what do you do when the "password is incorrect" for extracting rar files? :S11:59
arnduckyThat way you can back up /home to 2 CDs12:00
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arnduckyMabus06, legitimately obtain the correct password (i.e. from the archive maintainer that decided it was worth encryting inthe first place)12:00
N6REJok, that works... I'd like to find another HD for it, but I'm not willing to invest alot of money on it just for a print server and web browser.  Need to save the $$ and spend it on new AMD 64 base systems instead!12:00
N6REJmuch wiser investment.12:01
arnduckyMabus06, if you want help with cracking toolz, this is *not* the place to ask  -- *warning*12:01
arnduckyAll you're going to do is run cups, lpdd etc?12:01
Mabus06I didn't think I was hacking anything.... it was a copy downloaded from a .torrent, so I assume they wanted it to be downloaded by people12:01
arnduckyYou don't even need what you described for that -- unless you plan on serving for a busy LAN12:02
N6REJuh, lets see, I need samba & browser primarily12:02
arnduckyDo you even have more than one parallel iface on that thing?12:03
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N6REJnope12:03
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N6REJheck its a slot1?  ( long card ) cpu! asus mb.. I can't remember which one.12:03
arnduckyWell, samba needs space (not for the software) but the whole point of samba is providing share space12:03
arnduckyYou want to share a couple GB only?12:04
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Fanfouahello12:04
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N6REJdon't I need samba share to share the printers across the intranet?12:04
Mabus06arnducky, why would someone encrypt a torrent file?12:04
Fanfouawhat is the command to list the networks around me with my wifi card ?12:04
N6REJFanfoua, look in synaptic there's a package that does that.12:05
arnduckyN6REJ,  that's certainly the easiest way.  Pardon me, I though you meant you wanted samba for regular filesharing too -- my bad.12:05
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arnduckyMabus06, you want me to guess?12:05
arnducky=oP12:05
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N6REJnope, just for print server... not enough umph for anything else right now.... running memtest and its got some bad memory :(12:06
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N6REJdang12:06
arnduckyHeh, Fanfoua just reminded me to unplug my wireless (bluetooth) transceiver.12:07
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arnduckybuez  <3  <3    <312:07
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arnduckyerr 'Bluez' even12:07
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khermans:-)12:07
Fanfouawhat this package that lists the networks ?12:07
fregoFanfoua, iwlist intf scan12:07
Fanfouaok thanks12:08
arnduckyN6REJ, If you *only* want a printserer, I'd use Debian Sarge (just cause I'm more familiar with it).12:08
fregoFanfoua, where intf is your wifi card (ath0 for atheros, eth1 for ipw2200, wlan0 for others)12:08
Mabus06arnducky, I have the password now, how do I "use" it?12:08
arnduckyIf you are going to have an x-server though, then breezey:desktop might be your answer12:08
N6REJnah, wife is going to use it to work on our groupware site too.12:09
N6REJarnducky, k,12:09
arnduckyMabus06, look in the docs for your unrar utility FGS12:09
arnduckyphp groupware, Java?12:09
N6REJphp12:09
Mabus06arnducky, or could you just tell me, maybe?12:09
N6REJtikiwiki12:09
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N6REJseems to have the most features.12:10
Fanfouafrego: how can i see with one it is : ath0, wlan0... ?12:10
arnduckyMabus06, I don't use bit torrent, ans I've never run into locked .rar archives so I can't really help you at all -- honestly.12:10
Fanfoua(which on)12:10
Fanfoua(which one)12:10
arnduckyNow pls-stfu-now-kthnx-pls  =)12:10
N6REJ*covers eyes*12:11
arnducky!rar12:11
ubotuI guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a614012:11
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Mabus06!coc12:11
ubotuwell, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/12:11
Mabus06arnducky, please read it, thank you12:11
tobias__hi there! is there any possibility to workaround the x-problems with dapper :) ?12:11
N6REJI believe dapper has their own area12:12
arnduckyMabus06, there's is nothing inthere that says I have to put up with your harassment, now please LEAVE ME THE $#^% ALONE so I don't ahve to bother with adding you to my /IGNORE list12:12
Mabus06"if you have to ask how to use dappr, don't"12:12
Mabus06Harassment? :S12:12
fregoFanfoua, type iwconfig, and you'll see all wifi interfaces12:12
Mabus06If you read the CoC you would know not to say things like "stfu"12:12
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Mabus06This is a friendly environment, thank you.12:13
robotgeekMabus06: if you have unrar-nonfree installed, all you have to do is unrar x file.rar, and it will ask you for password.12:13
Mabus06Yeah I figured it out, robotgeek. Thanks.12:13
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robotgeekMabus06: :)12:13
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tobias__so there is no workaround :) ? had no problems with unstable things till this moment...12:14
arnduckyYeah -- y9ou can't take RTF(unky)M  manul or "I don't know" for an answer.  I told you everything I know and you just keep pestering me with more questions (E.g. "or you you could just tell me")12:14
Fanfouaok, thanks! (that's to help someone by telephone, and i'm on macos right now (not on my computer))12:14
Mabus06robotgeek, now I can watch beavis and butthead do america in peace! :D12:14
Mabus06arnducky, get laid12:14
fregoFanfoua, ok12:14
robotgeekarnducky. Mabus06 please stop12:14
N6REJok, lets knock it off please12:14
arnduckyMabus06, somehow Beavisd and Butthead seem apropriate -- LOL12:14
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arnduckyNow I'm smiling  =oD12:14
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Mabus06robotgeek, I wasn't doing anything to "stop"12:15
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mahanguMabus06, be nice12:15
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Mabus06mahangu, what are you talking about?12:15
Mabus06I am nice12:15
Mabus06I was poitning that abuser to the CoC12:15
arnduckyANyhow... N6REJ, if you have no data on the machine, I'm happy to try SSH supervision of an install with you12:15
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Mabus06"get laid" was friendly "nice" advice12:15
mahanguMabus06, sorry, was out of context12:16
thoreauputicOK lets get back on topic shall we?12:16
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arnduckyI don't want to be responsible for any of your data though.12:16
N6REJty thoreauputic12:16
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arnduckyIf you choose 'expert' mode, after the second boot you should be able to choose from all the  Debian installer packages, including the "network console" and "SSH console" options.12:17
N6REJarnducky, its ok, this is good practice for me.  I've got one breezy server, and my personnel workstation, so I need to be able to handle all the weird things.  And THAT box has been weird from the get go, but with it having a bad memory stick it might explain everything.12:17
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N6REJarnducky, yeah, I've already decided that it will have to be an expert install so that I don't get all the "FLUFF" installed.12:17
josehi, is there any graphical interface for apt-get?12:17
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N6REJjose, yes, there are two.. one called symaptic and one called aptitude.12:18
thoreauputic!tell jose about synaptic12:18
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arnduckyPut a nasty password in and dcc it to me encrypted to me.  (The password and 'installer' account will be wiped after the system reboots the second time -- at least according to the breezey installer's directions.12:18
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thoreauputicwell, aptitude is not a GUI in the same sense synaptic is12:18
arnduckyjose, kpkg too12:18
Copewhat are the bot(s) called in this channel?12:18
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arnducky(if you're using kde or kubuntu)12:19
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thoreauputicCope: ubotu12:19
arnduckyCope, ubotu and ChanServ12:19
N6REJarnducky, I need to fix my memory problem :D tnx for the offer though12:19
mahanguCope, ubotu is really the channel  bot12:19
mahanguChanserv is a system bot12:19
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aeon17xCope: and nalioth, but he denies it repeatedly.12:19
joseok, thanks witch one do you recommend me?12:19
arnduckyN6REJ, 72-pin or SDRAM?12:19
mahanguCope, dpkg is my friend :)12:19
arnduckyif it's SDRAM, jsut yank the bad SIMM12:19
Copedpkg rocks12:19
mahanguaeon17x, heh :)12:20
N6REJarnducky, I think its 72pin.12:20
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arnduckyIf you have 64 MB it should be enough... ewww12:20
N6REJarnducky, I will when I find out which module it is.  There are 312:20
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arnduckyEDO or non-EDO  (memtest should tell you)12:20
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SeRVeRIs ubuntu support arabic language?12:20
N6REJits not telling me anything about type yet... its still going.12:21
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arnduckyN6REJ, if there are theree slots in total it has to be SDRAM (a long, wide flat chewing gum stick -- but with the key in different places than DDR)12:21
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N6REJits NOT DDR :D  this is a p2-33312:22
arnducky72 pin 'clicks' in -- you put it at an angle then tilt it back into the retaining clips12:22
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N6REJI'm trying to remember the model asus board...12:23
N6REJits been forever.12:23
N6REJp3c2000 I think12:23
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musofahewgfypgfwiiiiiipgfsj12:23
arnduckyN6REJ, I have two mainboards that take DIMMs (not DDR DIMMs) that are older sitting right next to me12:23
musofacgiewatfueigftora12:23
musofag;ifywleewydweuheg12:23
arnduckyDid you prnt scrnt he CMOS settings?12:24
musofano12:24
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musofaggwu;fglg12:24
thoreauputicmusofa: do you have anything relevant to say ?12:24
musofahdsouitgewuo;g12:24
N6REJwhat the heck?12:24
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N6REJmusofa are you korean?12:24
N6REJthoreauputic, if he's korean it will do that!12:24
robotgeekN6REJ: that was not funny.12:24
thoreauputicN6REJ: ?12:24
arnduckyA P-II 333MHz system might have one of three kinds of RAM or even take two kinds (rarer boards)12:25
N6REJyes, it will look like gibbberish12:25
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N6REJI've seen it before when I was a sysop for ms gaming zone.12:25
rsilvaHello I believe I have a memory leak in the kernel. Can anyone help me interpret the output of slabtop?12:25
mahangursilva, shoot, but also note that you can get help in your language in #ubuntu-br12:26
mahangubut yes, go ahead12:26
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N6REJrobotgeek, what did I says that was mean?12:26
rsilvamahangu: I can speak English reasonably well.12:26
Fanfouait's weird, i bought a new quite expansive wifi pc card, and the scanning doesn't work!12:26
arnducky72-pins SIMMs (parity (and/or ECC parity) or non-parity, fastpage or ordinary); 'PC-66/100 or 133' DIMM12:27
rsilvaMy slabtop utility reports that one of my machines is using 160584K in ext3_inode_cache.12:27
rsilvaThis number looks high, doesn't it?12:27
arnduckynot to me12:27
arnduckyrsilva,12:27
robotgeekN6REJ: okay, i did not know korean looked like that :)12:27
N6REJrobotgeek, yes it can.. its wierd when you see it.. kanji does the same.12:28
arnduckyHow many total files have you got?  Are you using proc, udevfs with tmpfs?12:28
arnduckyman hdparm12:28
arnduckyman lsof12:28
N6REJarnducky, its pc100 memory... 4 dimm slots12:28
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rsilvaarnducky: Why you say that. Free reports that 247Mb is being used in a machine without gnome running (only gdm, I am acessing it from ssh).12:28
thoreauputicN6REJ: well , it doesn't really - but maybe an encoding / non-UTF-8 issue12:28
rsilvaarnducky: The machine is idle.12:28
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arnduckyN6REJ, cool -- then you probably have at least 128MB and they don't have to be used in pairs12:29
arnduckyso just yank that bad one toss it12:29
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arnduckyThen check your BIOS, set boot from CD and do the memtest again, then install breezey-minimal12:30
N6REJthoreauputic, that brings up a question I've been meaning to ask.  I've noticed lately that my ' and some A's are showing up weird!  go to http://www.cogyfarm.com/~troy/about.html and you'll see what I mean.  And I don't know whats causing them.12:30
arnduckyAfter that apt-get install tasksel12:30
tottido you want to play soccer with me ?12:30
N6REJarnducky, yeah, just have to find out which stick it is.12:30
N6REJtasksel?12:30
arnduckyN6REJ, I told you, you should be able to figure that out from memtest12:30
arnducky!tasksel12:30
ubotuarnducky: I give up, what is it?12:30
N6REJwhen I install I never know wether to use utf-8 or utf12:30
mahanguFanfoua, i can help you debug - wanna get in to offtopic?12:30
mahanguif you're talking about the 'monitor' mode that is12:30
mahangufor kismet etc12:30
tottisialan gua di kacangin12:31
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N6REJtotti are you italian?12:31
tottimau kagak lo ?12:31
arnduckyubotu, tasksel is a meat-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)12:31
ubotuokay, arnducky12:31
arnducky!tasksel12:31
ubotuit has been said that tasksel is a meat-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)12:31
N6REJtotti italiano?12:31
arnduckyubotu, tasksel is a meta-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)12:31
ubotu...but tasksel is already something else...12:31
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GoshawkN6REJ, no he's not12:32
N6REJok, don't recognize the full language was trying.12:32
tottiif you want,you must go to benteng12:32
thoreauputicN6REJ: are the "bullets" for apostrophes intentional? They show in the sourcce for that page here12:32
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N6REJno, they are the bad charachters12:33
GoshawkN6REJ, it seems something like..... arabian-like language12:33
N6REJyes I know, I don't know why12:33
thoreauputicN6REJ: urgh, what produced that code? It's very ugly...12:33
robotgeekN6REJ: i don't see anything wrong in konq12:33
arnduckyN6REJ, if your groupware site is going to spool many different print jobs, considering mounting /var/spool/ on its own partition12:33
N6REJthoreauputic, don't ask you don't wanna know, It was written in desperation.12:33
tottino i am not totti on italiano12:33
thoreauputicN6REJ: heh12:33
arnduckyN6REJ, are you taking notes?12:33
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N6REJarnducky, yes I'm paying attention.12:33
N6REJmorning Seveas12:34
Seveasoi12:34
tottiare you can use indonesian league?12:34
N6REJarnducky, does the memtest eventually quit and give you a report?12:34
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tottihr'gyyhdirptyighiuerl,12:35
arnduckyNext (in arnducky's fast and d3rty lpt dev install)... run tasksel and select [printserver]  meta package  (do not run this after you install anything else using breezey, because it will dselect unselected metapackages and possibly deinstall your Desktop if you already had one)12:35
arnduckyN6REJ, you should be looking at a 'report' as it runs12:35
tottiuitou heyeyu iiwwwr yrehyduie yetddreg!!!!!!!!!!12:35
N6REJits on test 612:36
tottijuahaf hkddjfk ukgusjjsiydy?12:36
N6REJtotti we don't speak indonesian here.. wait please.12:36
arnduckyDIMM slots are usually numbered from '0' to '3' (if you have four)12:36
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arnduckyerr same for SIMMs... heh12:36
robotgeektotti: what are you trying to do?12:36
robotgeekthoreauputic: troll alert!12:36
thoreauputictotti: *cough*12:37
thoreauputicrobotgeek: yeah I see :|12:37
arnduckyOh, and make sure you choose 'expert' install mode when you boot from the Breezey CD -- hit F1 to see the menu options12:37
tottido you knou bali?12:37
arnduckyand debconf debug=5 (very verbose) might be a good idea too12:37
arnduckyor # dmesg -n 512:38
arnduckywhen you get to the console12:38
allobjectshello all, I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask. I have just installed Ubuntu breezy and would like t install the KDE Edutainment Suite, can someone help me12:38
tottinow i in roma city12:38
arnduckyallobjects, try Synaptic12:38
N6REJ!tell totti ubuntu-il12:38
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allobjectsarnducky, Synaptic ?12:39
rsilvaallobjects: The package manager.12:40
arnduckyN6REJ, then install your desktop last using aptitude, dselect, dpkg or whatever you like (I recommend against installing the tasksel Desktop metapackage becasue it's bloated and will give you Gnome, and KDE instead of just one)12:40
tottibali is best of the best city in the world12:40
arnduckyallobjects, do you have a GUI on that machine now?12:40
robotgeektotti: please stay on topic12:40
tottioke oke12:41
xsjeHi all. Q: how can i see whether my 3c905 is in fullduplex mode?12:41
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Luck_manola12:41
arnduckytotti, cute and cheeky chocolate chix in Bali?12:42
arnducky;-)12:42
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arnducky<G>12:42
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brownie17can someone tell me what the hell the "login photo" does on breezy? and if there is a grpahical type logon screen to use instead of typing your username?12:42
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arnduckyIt's not like the channel is really busy dude -- let him boast about his travels if he want.  That's what I say at least, though you may be a chop and pull rank on me if you like.12:43
allobjectsarnducky, I have the standard Ubuntu desktop if that is what you mean12:43
arnduckyKDE or Gnome (not that it makes too much difference)12:43
Luck_manola12:43
allobjectsGnome12:43
robotgeekarnducky: no, i'm not a chop.12:43
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arnducky:$ sudo synaptic12:43
brownie17robotgeek, no, dude, your a chop12:44
arnduckyor Kpanel  -->  Utilities -- 'Package Manager (Synaptic)'12:44
brownie17robotgeek, you are totally a big chop12:44
brownie17hahaha12:44
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brownie17i don't even know why i insulted him, just felt like it12:44
brownie17i apologise, it was rude12:44
arnduckybrownie17, good gravy, are you trying to fry that chop12:44
arnducky;-D12:44
N6REJi'm off to go eat ... back l8tr12:45
allobjectsok Synaptic GUI is up12:45
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N6REJmorning ompaul12:45
arnduckyGood Idea -- I'll go make some food too now, I think12:45
arnducky=oD12:45
brownie17someone tell me what "login photo" actually does12:45
brownie17pleas12:45
brownie17e12:45
ompaulwith 15 minutes left Good Morning12:46
arnduckyallobjects, use the search feature to browse your package cache12:46
xsjehow can i see whether my 3c905 is in fullduplex mode?12:46
N6REJlol.. yes, I guess that about right for you?  2345 right now isn't it?12:46
soundrayompaul, you must be on UTC.12:46
rob_pxsje:  sudo mii-tool eth0 (assuming your ethernet interface is eth0)12:47
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ompaulsoundray, you got it12:47
arnducky(also there is a Breezey specific front-end script for synaptic that I find very annoying but may be helpfull when you don't know what you're looking for, or you're a newbie; or you need to add multiverse or universe for the first time)12:47
N6REJompaul, I actually wrote a useful wiki last night :D12:47
xsjerob_p: tnx12:47
arnducky((err maybe it's in Hoary too))12:48
rob_pxsje:  np  :-)12:48
arnduckybye -now mealtime -- BBIAB12:48
brownie17brb12:48
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cionhey all how do i install skype on ubuntu?12:49
allobjectsarnducky, ok found the kdeedu so I'll just mark it and see how I go ?12:49
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thoreauputic!skype12:49
ubotumethinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:49
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N6REJok, back in a bit...12:50
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xsjerob_p: a u willing to help me further?12:51
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bomberohi , have ubuntu 5.10 installed, but with the kernel 2.6.12-10-386, how to change to -i686 ??12:52
rob_pxsje:  Sure.  I've got about 10 minutes or so.12:52
os2machi all... I am running Kubuntu but I am really tired of the whole blue thing... can someone point me to a place where I can get the offical ubuntu wallpaper?12:53
cliebowantone have experience woth lucent winmodem and kppp..works from wvdial but cant get kppp right...first a segfault..now just sort of resting12:53
thoreauputicbombero: sudoa pt-get install linux-68612:53
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thoreauputicoops *sudo12:53
bomberothanx12:53
bomberowill try now12:53
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xsjerob_p: can we move to #flood. so i can show you the output of mii-tool?12:54
rob_pxsje:  See you there...12:54
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bomberothoreauputic, it works, thanks12:55
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MrApexhi all12:55
thoreauputicno worries :)12:55
cfuersthi mrapex12:55
cfuerstwhere are you from12:55
MrApexim a complete noob to linux to bear with me12:55
MrApexUK12:55
MrApexi need to install the nVidia drivers12:56
cfuersti am from austria12:56
Seveas!tell MrApex about nvidia12:56
cfuerstwhat distri you have12:56
thoreauputic!tell MrApex about nvidia12:56
cionhey all how do i install skype?12:56
cfuerstwhat distribution do you have12:56
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cionpckges are different?12:56
thoreauputicheh OK too slow :)12:56
cfuerstapt-get install skype12:56
cionthat's it?12:56
MrApexit keeps saying i need to quit x server12:57
thoreauputic!tell cion about skype12:57
allobjectsarnducky, marking the kdeedu package cause a number of dependencies which fail....I'm going to get some shut eye and have another go at this in the morning, thanks for the assist12:57
cfuerstsorry i ment skyutils12:57
TWDHi, can anyone help me with a (multimedia) codec problem?12:57
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thoreauputic!tell TWD about ask12:58
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thoreauputicTWD: you need to tell us what the problem is first :)12:58
TWDOK, thanks thoreauputic, I just thought I'd introduce my topic before giving all the details :)12:58
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thoreauputic:)12:59
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SeveasTWD, we like our problems in detail :)12:59
RQTWD, iontroductions waste traffic12:59
TWDI've just installed Breezy, updated everything, enabled universe/multivers and the plf repos12:59
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TWDand installed the w32codec pack, which as always unpacked a load of files to /usr/lib/win3212:59
Seveas!+goodmorning01:00
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!01:00
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peter_why doesent the mouse copy/paste buffer work for certain programs? i cant paste into xterm or vim from other apps (eg firefox)01:00
TWDI then went into totem (default, gstreamer version) and tried to play a divx01:00
SeveasTWD, ehhh-wrong :)01:00
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TWDto which totem awnsered : no codec found.01:00
TWDSeveas: Which part :)01:00
thoreauputicTWD: install totem-xine01:00
Seveasyo need either gstreamer0.8-pitfdll or totem-xine to use the w32codecs01:00
TWDOK01:00
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robotgeekwhat's the difference between k7/386/68601:01
TWDI installed pitfdll01:01
RQrobotgeek, the processor01:01
thoreauputic!tell TWD about restricted01:01
TWDbut I couldn't seem to get it to work01:01
robotgeekRQ: are they all x86, as sucj01:01
RQrobotgeek, yes01:01
RQbut the optimizations differ01:01
RQk7 is for AMD01:01
RQ686 is for intels01:01
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TWDOK, so otherwise putting totem-xine in is the only other option?01:01
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robotgeekpeter_: try middle clicking?01:02
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TWDThanks, I'll go check that out now :)01:02
thoreauputicTWD: try typing gst-register-0.801:02
TWDalready done :(01:02
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RQTWD, at least for me, totem-Xine worked better than the gstreamer version01:02
thoreauputicTWD: but read the RestrictedFormats wiki too01:02
hanseatichow do i get a sondfile like *wav or *mp3 out of a video.mpeg or avi?01:02
MrApexim quite impressed by ubuntu so far01:03
robotgeekRQ: so all the codecs an java will work on them ?01:03
peter_robotgeek: i am using middleclick to paste. doesent work with vim. otoh i can paste from the mouse buffer using shift + insert01:03
Seveashanseatic, mplayer should be able to do that with a bunch of commandline options01:03
robotgeekpeter_: one sec, lemme grab a link to help you out with vim :)01:04
MrApexwoo it worked01:04
MrApexthanks guys01:04
RQrobotgeek, java???01:05
hanseaticseveas yes, and a bunch of other tools too, but mplayer does have A LOT OF options01:05
RQah01:05
RQyes01:05
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RQthey will01:05
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Seveashanseatic, indeed ;)01:05
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robotgeekpeter_: i hope you are refering to console vim01:06
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peter_ robotgeek: yes, not i'm using gvim01:06
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TWDOK, just to say that I've installed totem-xine and now everything works a treat, thanks all :)01:07
robotgeekRQ: just need the information01:07
thoreauputicTWD: :)01:08
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robotgeekpeter_: can't you paste at all, or it indents?01:08
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peter_robotgeek: i cant paste at all.01:09
robotgeekpeter_: it might have something to do with the unnamed buffer. but, i can paste without messing with it. one sec01:10
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ben_underscorea box of ubuntu cds from shipit arrived today, about 40 of them. pretty good time seeing that i'm in australia01:10
mahangu_ben_underscore, you ordered forty?01:10
ben_underscoremahangu_, yep01:11
mahangu_ben_underscore, heh gotta do that myself01:11
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ben_underscoremahangu_, i'm going to send them to local members of parliament01:11
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barry89can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ...  am having problems getting to the virtual consoles01:12
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adam_hi, have wrong charset (in xchat), how to change to 8859-15 ?01:12
RQadam_, /charset01:13
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RQi.e., /charset iso-8859-1501:13
RQor change it in the server prefs01:13
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robotgeekpeter_: you can middle click and paste to an xterm though01:14
mahangu_ben_underscore, awesome stuff, im in -offtopic if you care to talk01:14
mahangu_:)01:14
adam_thanks, it works01:14
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fsmwhi all!01:15
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ZonaXhi01:15
fsmwi want to setup a ubuntu mirror01:15
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robotgeekpeter_: try setting 'set mouse=a' in your .vimrc01:15
peter_robotgeek: no, i *cant* middleclick and paste to xterm or vim, so i dont think this is a vim issue01:15
peter_i have that set01:15
fsmwi know there is a page in the wiki, and point a rsync url, but i don't understand what to do with01:16
fsmwsomebody know how to setup it?01:16
robotgeekpeter_: so no, it's not a vim issue01:16
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peter_shift insert works with both xterm and vim01:16
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peter_but not middleclick :(01:16
robotgeekpeter_: it's an xterm issue/your mouse issue. maybe you can try pasting in gvim by selecting text from firefox01:16
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barry89is there anyway to get to a virtual terminal (apart from ctrl+alt+fx) ?01:17
mvhentenHello! I was looking for a menu where I can setup the GRUB bootloader: I want to change the default timeout and os it's loading.01:17
mvhentenI typed GRUB in the wiki but I don't quite understand it.01:17
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mahangu_peter_, is your mouse usb or ps2 or other01:18
mahangu_ubotu, teoo mvhenten about GRUB01:18
ubotumahangu_: Not a clue01:18
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mahangu_ubotu, tell mvhenten about GRUB01:18
mahangu_sorry abou tthat01:18
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robotgeekpeter_: any app will work, i guess01:18
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=== robotgeek lets peter_ install gvim :)
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BigKahunaAnybody using Tovid?01:19
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peter_robotgeek: it works for gvim, no surprise there though01:19
mvhentenok there is no 'menu' how I can do this? I have to open the "terminal" ?01:19
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robotgeekpeter_: so it's a console issue. i hope you are not using putty for some strange reason :)01:20
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peter_i'm not using putty, dont see why it should make a difference though?01:20
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robotgeekpeter_: putty has some weird options for pasting01:21
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soundraybash in gnome-terminal doesn't see certain keystrokes. The terminal menu opens instead. How can I change that?01:23
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barry89can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ... I am having problems getting to the virtual consoles. Where is the keyboard config file located, if I delete it will it regenerate a new one (that works)?01:24
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mvhentenok, i have opened the menu.lst file. I have to change 'default num' to change default os right? so the first is zero? or 1? is 0 the default something?01:24
soundraymvhenten, 0 is the first entry.01:25
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mvhentenso I have a total of 7 entries01:25
mvhententhe last entry would be 601:25
soundraymvhenten, yes01:26
mvhentenwhen starting counting at 0? right?01:26
mvhentenok01:26
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mvhentenis every entry starting with 'title' in menu.list an entry? since there is this 'separator' menu, does it count to the number of entries.01:27
mvhentenI'm sorry, but this is a bit confusing01:27
mvhentenand I am on a slow network connection I don't want to go and download the live cd if things get messed up :)01:27
soundraymvhenten, you've got it right, though.01:27
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soundraymvhenten, you could order the CD instead.01:28
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mvhentenso the 'separator' also counts for the number of entries. ah, in that case I have 8 entries.01:28
mvhentensoundray, you are totally right. poor student tho.01:28
soundraymvhenten, never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of CDs.01:28
soundraymvhenten, they are free.01:28
mvhentenwhen I get rich I'll get a creditcard and start supporting the free software :)01:29
MrApexwhat package of Xcaht should i be downlaoding?01:29
MrApexXChat*01:29
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geonehi guys!01:29
soundrayMrApex,  the default one.01:29
thoreauputicMrApex: it's already installed by default :)01:29
cionI can't make my mic work with skype any ideas?01:29
MrApexoh yes01:29
MrApex:P01:29
mvhentencion I had that problem01:29
mvhentenI changed the sound settings to "oss"01:30
cionu kixed it?01:30
cionoh riiight01:30
geonehow do detect a new video in the post installation of ubuntu01:30
mvhentenskype only understands "oss" not alsa01:30
thoreauputiccion: check alsamixer for muted channels or openthe gnome mixer01:30
cionwow01:30
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geonehow do you detect a new video in the post installation of ubuntu,  i mean01:30
mvhentenif you have esd running (or alsa)01:30
cionno mc is not muted01:30
soundrayWhen I hit Alt+F in gnome-terminal, the menu opens. But I want to edit the command line. How do I make bash see my keystrokes?01:30
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mvhentenskype can not use the audio devices01:30
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MrApex_Linuxwoohoo01:30
MrApex_Linuxit al works01:30
cionok so i use oss?01:30
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barry89geone: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:31
mvhentencion: that's how I got to use skype anyway.01:31
geonethanks01:31
geonesome told to use modprobe01:31
cionok ill give it a try01:31
cionthx01:31
mvhentenI have a sblive wich supports multiple wave out anyway so I do not need esd or alsa to work01:31
cioncya01:31
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geonebut i dont know how to use the command01:31
geonethanks01:31
barry89in a terminal type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:32
soundraymvhenten, did you get my line saying that you can order Ubuntu CD's for free?01:32
barry89geone, it will ask you a serious of questions01:32
geonethanks ill try01:32
barry89geone, you answer them01:32
barry89geone,  backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first, incase you break X01:33
geoneim from philippines01:33
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gilmessiasops01:33
barry89can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ... I am having problems getting to the virtual consoles. Where is the keyboard config file located, if I delete it will it regenerate a new one (that works)?01:33
geonequite new to linux01:33
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soundrayGuys, can you help me fix this silly terminal behavior?01:34
ubuntuholas01:34
mvhentensoundray, yes, thanks,01:34
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ubuntuhello01:34
ZonaXnice nickname :P01:34
ubuntuthanks01:35
ZonaX^^01:35
geonebarry01:35
mvhentenhowever, about my slow connection: i was referring to my impatience: I guess If I had a day or so I could download the ubuntu cd with torrent01:35
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mvhententhe connection is slow, but free.01:35
soundraybarry89, does sudo chvt 1 work?01:35
ubuntui am francisco01:35
ubuntui am from chole01:35
ubuntuchile01:35
El_Chewhereabouts?01:36
thoreauputicwelcome francisco :)01:36
geonesometimes when i transfer my linux hardrive to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem01:36
mvhentenso I don't want to order a free cd: save them postmarks ( or are they a NGO that needs to spend money?)01:36
barry89soundray, yeah01:36
geonesometimes when i transfer my linux hardrisk to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem?01:36
barry89soundray, thanks a lot01:36
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barry89soundray, you any idea why the ctrl+alt+fx shortcuts don't work ?01:37
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soundraybarry89, have you played with System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts?01:37
barry89soundray, yeah, but I can't see anything relevant01:38
soundraybarry89, have you got the Keyboard Preferences panel item loaded with weird settings?01:38
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ubuntuquien habla espaol???01:39
barry89soundray, not as fas as I know01:39
barry89soundray, the ctrl + alt + fx works when I am not in the F7 (gnome!)01:39
thoreauputicubuntu: /join #ubuntu-es01:39
thoreauputic!es01:39
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:39
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soundraybarry89, does it work when you have the desktop in focus instead of the terminal?01:39
mvhentenHow much success have people had in running wine?01:40
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barry89soundray, nope01:40
soundraymvhenten, plenty of success running wine down my throat.01:40
ben_underscoremvhenten, i once ran a windows virus in wine01:40
ben_underscoremvhenten, it was quite funny01:40
geonehello!!!01:40
geonesometimes when i transfer my linux hardrisk to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem?01:40
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soundraybarry89, have you restarted X or rebooted since this occurred?01:41
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rohanhi all01:41
rohani use irssi over01:41
soundraygeone, your error description is insufficient.01:41
geonesame thing happens01:41
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barry89soundray, yes, it has been happening for about a week01:41
mvhentenah ok :)01:41
rohanscreen. many times, during minimizing, or when some other window covers it, screen goes black, and some words flicker01:41
rohanthen i need to detach and reattach01:41
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rohanthen its fine01:41
mvhentenso... first I want to have access to the ntfs partition running the os of the enemy01:41
rohananyone else experiences that ?01:42
geone+01:42
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geone.+01:42
barry89soundray, I reckon I just need to delete the GNOME keyboard config file(s), but I have no idea where they are01:42
robotgeekrohan: screen as in GNU screen?01:42
rohanrobotgeek: yes.01:42
ben_underscoremvhenten, try cross over office (non-free), it runs most windows stuff really well on linux01:42
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fearlSeveas: you around?01:43
robotgeekrohan: i've never experienced that problem, i am not sure what the cause is01:43
rohani could have googled, but i dont know what to search for, such a strange problem this is.01:43
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kitschi need to change the volume keyboard shortcuts to change the volume of PCM instead of Master or whatever is the default (for some reason only PCM actually affects volume on my computer). does anyone have a suggestion on how to do this? i've checked keyboard shortcuts prefs but found nothing there.01:43
soundraybarry89, one way to do this is to log out, then login on the console, then issue rm -rf ~/.gnome* and rm -rf ~/.gconf*, but...01:43
rohanrobotgeek: i use screen only for irssi, and it happens unexpectedly, i cant reproduce as and when i want :(01:43
soundraybarry89, after that you'll have to start configuring gnome from scratch.01:43
ubuntualguien habla espaol01:44
kwtm1If I've installed a number of deb packages, where are they stored on my hard drive, so that I don't have to download them again when I install them on my other computer?01:44
soundraykwtm1, /var/cache/apt/archives/01:44
thoreauputicubuntu: we told you the channel for that - #ubuntu-es - this is an english channel01:44
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barry89soundray, :( ... thanks for the help, I am not willing to start reconfiguring gnome from scratch though. I will update the forum thread and see if anyone else has any input.. thanks again01:44
kwtm1ubuntu: no hablo bien espanol; busca #ubuntu-es01:45
kwtm1soundray: thanks!01:45
fearlthoreauputic: lunitik here, I've been banned in here for something like 3 months now... any chance you can remove the ban?01:45
mvhentenI'd prefer to use free software tho. crossover office looks nice, but...01:45
soundraybarry89, the keyboard settings are buried somewhere in those dir's, but I don't know where.01:45
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thoreauputicfearl: really? oh boy01:45
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biel hi there! I do not know if this is the right channel, but I am looking for information on how to make a live distro (like ubuntu ;-)  ) can anyone help me ?01:45
thoreauputicfearl: /msg me please01:45
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mvhentenbiel, try knoppix?01:46
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robotgeekkitsch: try right clicking on the volume applet. then link it to control both master and pcm. that might work01:46
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rohanrobotgeek: my god, the screen problem happened again!01:46
soundraybiel, google for 'debian from scratch'01:46
rohani took a screenshot01:46
travelleri'm using breezy, when i connect a dialup modem the new route doesn't get added so i have to do it manually, is there a way to automate this?01:46
rohaninterested anyone ?01:46
bielyes , I know knoppix ... but i think Ubuntu uses morphix, am I right ? :)01:46
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adam_biel, www.knopper.net01:46
bielOk ! Debian from scratch ! :)01:46
barry89soundray, ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/accessibility/keyboard/%gconf.xml01:46
fearlbiel: gnoppix is affiliated with ubuntu...01:47
soundraybiel, you could also check out the dfsbuild package in ubuntu.01:47
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robotgeekrohan: really really weird01:47
soundraybarry89, do you want to risk rm'ing that?01:47
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barry89if I delete it, will it remake itself?01:47
kitschrobotgeek: thanks! but it does not seem to work...01:47
soundraybarry89, I believe so, but I won't promise.01:47
robotgeekkitsch: oh well.01:47
bielOk ! Thank you very much palls :)01:47
bielsee ya ! :)01:48
barry89ctrl + alt + backspace still works01:48
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soundraybarry89, there is hope yet :)01:48
rohanrobotgeek: wait a sec01:48
EvilPaddyCan someone please try this link for me in FireFox (Breezy), It keeps bombing out on me, broswer window just disappears: http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Cplusplus/First-Steps-in-C-Programming-continued/01:48
barry89soundray, wish me luck....01:48
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rohanrobotgeek: http://cs.pixeli.org/rohan/gnu_screen_problem_ubuntu.png01:49
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bennymoinmoin...  is there anyone who can help me with al log-message?01:49
robotgeekuggh01:49
purplefeltangelwhy is spamassassin totally *not* working?01:49
fearlpurplefeltangel: set any rules?01:49
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purplefeltangelfearl: like, filters?01:50
fearlpurplefeltangel: yes...01:50
robotgeekrohan: does it happen if you use a different terminal emulator, other than gnome-terminal?01:50
purplefeltangelfearl: yeah i did01:50
fearlpurplefeltangel: spamassasin learns, but isn't really that effective from the start....01:50
bennythe message: Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst01:50
fearlpurplefeltangel: hmm... strange...01:50
purplefeltangelfearl: ah, ok01:50
EvilPaddyCan someone please try this link for me in FireFox (Breezy), It keeps bombing out on me, broswer window just disappears: http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Cplusplus/First-Steps-in-C-Programming-continued/01:50
rohanrobotgeek: havent checked. trying urxvt. but how will i know ? i cant reproduce the problem manually.01:50
purplefeltangelfearl: i only just got ubuntu like last week. so that makes sense.01:51
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purplefeltangelfearl: also, in evolution, hwo can i get images to load in messages automatically?01:51
rsilvaHello, I have discovered that "updatedb" seems to reserve some memory that looks leaked to the "free" command. Is this normal?01:51
soundrayEvilPaddy, it works here.01:51
kwtm1Hmm... with a name like EvilPaddy, do we know that that web page isn't going to take over Firefox or something? :)01:51
robotgeekrohan: it's really really weird :)01:51
fearlpurplefeltangel: I don't have it installed... but its somewhere logical in the prefs...01:51
kwtm1EvilPaddy: Works in Konqi, though...01:52
Seveasspamassassin on Ubuntu is sooo not working01:52
soundrayEvilPaddy, kwtm1, I believe in Firefox security :)01:52
rohanrobotgeek: yes, and i dunno how to reproduce the problem. i am on screen with urxvt01:52
Seveassearch bugzilla for the latest report about it, it has an explanation why01:52
EvilPaddykwtm1, Yes, thats right..01:52
soundrayEvilPaddy, try loading with images and javascript off.01:52
purplefeltangelfearl: ok i will try to find it. t hank you01:52
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kwtm1Maybe if you changed your name from EvilPaddy to InnocentGuy or something ....01:52
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orbxdoes anyone know of a good avi plugin for totem player?01:53
barry89soundray, :( ... didn't work01:53
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soundraykwtm1, that's when I'd get suspicious01:53
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williihello all need help with audio in breezy badger 5.10 drivers for RealTek 5.612.413.200401:53
PetLovingPaddyWhat ya think!01:53
soundraybarry89, did you log out before you rm'ed the directory?01:53
bennyhmmm ive no idea...01:53
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barry89no soundray01:53
barry89should I have ?01:53
fearlorbx: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ffpeg ...01:53
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soundraybarry89, if you don't, gnome writes back its config files on exit.01:54
barry89lol alright cheers01:54
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barry89brb01:54
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orbxfearl > that didn't work01:55
Goatocaustohey anyone able to help me with a partition problem ?? i installed ubuntu earlier today and decided i didnt want it, anyhow, now i removed it and have the partition taking up free space that i need... its a dumb question i know but im trying to use partition magic to get the space back01:55
Goatocaustodo i just make the now "unallocated" space into for example a ntfs partition, and then "merge" it back with my other hdd partition ??01:55
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fearlorbx: ffmpeg...01:56
fearlorbx: I had a spelling mistake  :/01:56
SeveasGoatocausto, simply resize the existing partition..01:56
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soundrayGoatocausto, am I getting you right, you're looking for Partition Magic support here?01:56
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Goatocaustomm ok i get your point :S lol01:56
topyliorbx: or you can use totem-xine and install the w32codecs which will handle evil codecs better01:56
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barry89soundray, how am I going to remove the file? when I log out I can't get to another terminal to remove the file01:57
fearltopyli: false actually... the gstreamer codecs seem to provide better clarity here...01:57
soundraybarry89, you need to log in on the text console.01:57
barry89soundray, I cant get to the text console?01:57
barry89soundray, oh the session01:57
barry89soundray, ok. brb01:57
bennyis anybody able zo help me with:  sudo tail -f /var/log/messages01:57
bennyPassword:01:57
bennyNov 24 13:29:05 localhost gconfd (benny-8249): Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst01:57
MrApex_Linuxquestion01:57
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MrApex_Linuxhow do i install themes on Gnome?01:58
topylifearl: yeah well, my knowledge may be outdated, gstreamer is getting better all the time01:58
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bennythe message comes continous01:58
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soundraybenny, meet me in #ubuntu-de01:58
Seveasbenny, that's a normal message01:58
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bennyk, thx01:58
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josehi, is there any firewall in ubuntu?01:59
Seveas!firewall01:59
yatesyiptables01:59
vitadrinkerHallo01:59
ubotuI guess firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter01:59
topyliMrApex_Linux: get the themes from art.gnome.org or somewhere, then just drag the packages to the theme manager01:59
topylijose: are you sure you need one? :)01:59
joseno, i am trying to configure driverloader, from linuxand02:00
joseuy02:00
joselinuxant02:00
MrApex_Linuxoh right02:00
orbxtotpyli > i will just use vlc ;)02:00
MrApex_Linuxim usiing Gnome-Loog02:00
MrApex_LinuxLook*02:00
joseand when i try to configure it, i cannot open the page, it is 127.0.0.1:18020, i think...02:00
topyliMrApex_Linux: all the same02:00
joseso i thought maybe a firewall is bloking it02:00
topylijose: by default, there is no firewall02:01
joseok, so what can be wrong then?02:01
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MrApex_Linuxwow thats easy02:02
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MrApex_Linuxthanks02:02
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Pegasos989is there a command in tetrminal for dling a file to desktop? For example "DL http://goatse.ca/index.html /home/pekka/Detop" or something?02:04
SeveasPegasos989, wget02:04
kvanttihi there. anyone know what is the correct place for the all codec package content to cp to when using mplayer?02:04
Pegasos989Seveas, thanks02:04
thoreauputicPegasos989: cd ~/Desktop ; wget -c <your URL>02:05
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SLSneakHi! I have a question about the "Code of conduct". It's about the following phrase: "Nobody knows everything, and nobody is expected to be perfect in the Ubuntu community (except of course the SABDFL)". Who are the SABDFL?02:05
Kamping_KaiserMark Shuttleworth02:05
Seveas!sabdfl02:05
ubotuSeveas: Bugger all, i dunno02:05
Kamping_Kaiserhm. i should go and sign that actualy02:05
thoreauputicSLSneak: self appointed benevolent dictator for life ;)02:05
kvanttiwould a place for mplayer to find codecs be the mplayer root dir, or do i need to use another dir?02:06
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j813I saw a 510 dvd .iso is that complete with KDE, add ons, etc?02:06
SLSneakthoreauputic> Lol, ok :) Am I condoning dictators if I sign the code?02:06
Kamping_Kaiserkvantti: /user/local/codecs02:06
fearlkvantti: /lib/win32 holds the codecs for w32codecs02:06
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Hoxzerbut you can't tuuurn back the tiiimeee02:07
peter_does anyone get corruption on the display after switching to a virtual terminal, using the latest breezy fglrx drivers? couldnt find anything in the forums02:08
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soundraypeter_, I can't switch to a vt at all anymore.02:09
peter_what happens when you try to?02:09
kvanttiKanping_Kaiser i have no such directory in my system. just create one?02:09
soundraypeter_, screen freezes and I have to ssh into the box to reboot.02:09
Kamping_Kaiserkvantti: yes02:10
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peter_soundray: with me the display is corrupted, in both dvi and analog modes.02:10
soundraypeter_, that's annoying.02:11
thoreauputicSLSneak: I guess Mark would cll himself sabdfl if he had any notions of genuine dictatorship ;)02:11
thoreauputic*wouldn't02:11
soundraypeter_, but I see it as the price for using proprietary software...02:11
Kamping_Kaiserthoreauputic: *benevolent* ;)02:11
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thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: ah, but all dictators want you to believe they are benevolent <evil grin>02:12
peter_soundray: also i can ping my box, but i couldnt ssh to it after screen corruption.02:12
Kamping_Kaiserthoreauputic: you telling me ;) remember it's not the system of govt, it's how it's used :)02:13
purplefeltangeldude, the Demented Cartoon Movie isn't working.02:13
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soundraypeter_, isn't it funny that all these bugs would be fixed in no time if ATI just opened their specs?02:13
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thoreauputicjohn how^H^H^^H erm sorry ASIO, I didn't say anything , honest02:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:14
robotgeekthoreauputic: isn't the ^H actually valid here :)02:14
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peter_soundray: there are some free drivers for ATI stuff, arent there? have you tried them?02:15
thoreauputicrobotgeek: out of control is more like it ;)02:15
Kamping_Kaiserpeter_: yes, but they don't do many cards IIRC02:15
robotgeekthoreauputic: i din't say nothing :)02:15
kwtm1Anyone know why, when I try to use KMid to play midi files, it says "open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"?  How do I create the correct device file so I can play midi?  Some package I should install?02:15
soundraypeter_, yes I have, but I need GL acceleration. Professionally, of course.02:15
thoreauputicrobotgeek: your secret is safe with me ;-)02:16
peter_oh didnt realize free drivers dont support hw accel.02:16
soundraypeter_, some do, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my system.02:16
peter_i used to have a nvidia card. drivers worked quite well, but it had a really noisy fan :(02:16
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purplefeltangel"go into the bathroom at work and spend half an hour grunting and groaning in a stall. emit a final scream and exit holding a large hen's egg."02:17
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soundrayDo you know of any well-supported alternative to NVidia and ATI cards with hw acceleration?02:18
mtupperhey all, does anybody know how I can change the association for the web browser from Konquerer to Firefox so that the many k-apps I am using like Kopete or Kmail open Firefox as the web browser instead of Konquerer...???02:19
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purplefeltangeli am having sound problems, can someone help me?02:19
robotgeekmtupper: in preferences, you'll find default browser02:19
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thoreauputicmtupper: file associations in kcontrol IIRC02:19
thoreauputic!tell kwtm1 about midi02:21
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peter_soudnray: had i known about ATI issues i would have bought a quiet nvidia card. havent really looked into it much, just got the cheapest at the time!02:21
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soundraypeter_, NVidia isn't that much better. I tried to get output from the VGA on a laptop with GeForce. Gave up after many hours.02:22
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classic_anyone with experience how to burn a pal dvd (for example with cinelerra)?02:23
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purplefeltangelcan someone help me fix my sound?02:25
SLSneakpurplefeltangel> What's wrong with it?02:25
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purplefeltangelslsneak: just plain not working.02:26
ompaulpurplefeltangel, what kind of sound card have you got?02:26
purplefeltangelompaul: "Dell Sound Blaster Live!"02:26
thoreauputicpurplefeltangel: you probably need to tell people what card you have and what symptoms and error messages you are seeing02:26
purplefeltangelthoreauputic: no symtoms except that nothing will play.02:26
oNe^somewheredoes any1 know how to make XMMS play mp3 files from a networked windows pc ?02:26
purplefeltangel*symptoms02:26
peter_soundray: i thought that they were ok. did you use drivers from nvidia's site?02:27
thoreauputicpurplefeltangel: have you run alsamixer and checked for muted channels ?02:27
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purplefeltangelthoreauputic: um, i double-clicked on the speaker icon and unmuted everything in there, if that's what that means....02:27
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soundraypeter_, yes, I tried pretty much every variation.02:28
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Robbsterlo all. I'm trying to compile putty for breezy (yes, I know it is in the repository, but I need to change the src)02:28
ompaulpurplefeltangel, are you running 5.10 or 5.04?02:28
purplefeltangelompaul: 5.1002:28
ompaulhmm02:28
thoreauputicpurplefeltangel: any output from  lsmod | grep snd ?02:29
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soundraypeter_, in the end I think it was partly the laptop's fault, because the display switch key combination didn't work like it did in MS Windows.02:29
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RobbsterI've installed the 'build-essential' package and the compile gives an error: '/bin/sh: gtk-config: command not found' what am I missing?02:29
thoreauputic(don't paste it here btw)02:29
purplefeltangelthoreauputic: yes02:29
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thoreauputicpurplefeltangel: what happens if you try the multimedia selector in the system prefs menu ?02:30
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purplefeltangelthoreauputic: a window comes up talking about output and stuff02:30
joe__hullo, xserver appears to be broken in dapper -- can anyone confirm?02:30
thoreauputicpurplefeltangel: yes of course - but have you tried various combinations and tested them/02:30
thoreauputic?02:31
purplefeltangelthoreauputic: no? ^^; i dont like to change things, haha02:31
purplefeltangelanyway, i gotta go to school :S02:31
thoreauputicpurplefeltangel:  :/02:31
purplefeltangelyus i am a losar.02:31
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purplefeltangeli have been using windows since my formative years02:32
purplefeltangelanyway, bye02:32
vhaarrHey, I'm having some problems with the X server after upgrading to the latest xserver-xorg-core package -- it says in the Xorg log that it can't find the 'mouse', 'kbd', 'GLcore' and 'sis' modules. Anyone know how to fix this, or is it a known problem?02:32
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joe__vhaarr: same here -- I think the module packages are mismatched with the new core pkg02:32
Copeok... new install of breezy badger; as normal user if I go to 'conputer' and try to mount a floppy I can't; yet in a terminal I can mount /dev/fd002:33
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vhaarrjoe__: Indeed .. Do you know how to fix this locally? I'm quite keen on getting X running again :P02:33
Copethis is ok for me, but the machine is for my mother, who won't want to keep doing that every time she wants to use a floppy!02:33
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joe__vhaarr: Well... the modules seem to be installed in a different place in the new core02:33
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Kamping_KaiserCope: tried setting the fs type to 'vfat,ext2' in fstab?02:34
vhaarrjoe__: Aha, so I'd have to create symlinks for all of them? :S02:34
joe__vhaarr: I tried (ugh) symlinking the old driver and input dirs into the new module directory, but that just produced link errors02:34
FiretechI got my shipit cds today :)02:34
Copehow can I make the computer - floppy mounter work (the graphical one) - I'm unfamiliar with these things, normally I do it manually02:34
vhaarrright02:34
CopeKamping_Kaiser: will try...02:34
vhaarrjoe__: Yeah, GLcore gets a symbol error.02:34
Firetechlarge pile of free software02:34
joe__vhaarr: I've resorted to apt-get update every few seconds :-S02:34
vhaarrjoe__: Me too :(02:35
joe__vharr: btw there's already a bug report: #2003302:35
vhaarrthanks02:35
oNe^somewherei got a question bout the kernels02:37
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oNe^somewherei installed the i386 kernel 1st but later added the 686 ... do i need to remove the 386 ?02:37
joe__vhaarr: I guess you could try downgrading the core package02:37
mustard5oNe^somewhere, best not to02:38
Kamping_KaiseroNe^somewhere: you don't need to no02:38
mustard5oNe^somewhere, its a good standby if you have problems02:38
oNe^somewhereso leave both in there02:38
mustard5oNe^somewhere, yeah02:38
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Copei still get: Error: Given UDI is not a mountable volume02:38
vhaarrjoe__: Yeah .. Do you know how I do that? Maybe there's a guide, I'll search google.02:38
mustard5oNe^somewhere, unless it really creating space issues for you02:38
carstenhi, anyone with a hp-notebook here?02:38
oNe^somewherek ..wasn't sure coz it's upgrading both02:38
Robbsterhow do I find the package that contains gtk-config?02:38
Robbstercarsten, not I02:39
joe__vhaarr: I don't have the old pkg cached... so I'm not sure how to proceed...02:39
mustard5Robbster, packages.ubuntu.com has a search function for finding files in packages02:39
Robbstermustard5: thx. Loading it right now :_02:39
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mtupperthoreauputic: thanks, that was easy... took so long cuase I got really sidetracked, fixing a bunch of other thorns in my side. Thanks again, out...!02:39
joe__vhaarr: I'm not even sure whether/how long old packages are cached in the repositories02:39
vhaarrjoe__: I found it, give me a second.02:40
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vhaarrjoe__: old versions should be present in the archives.02:41
classic_anyone with experience how to burn a pal dvd (for example with cinelerra)?02:41
carstenclassic_: k3b?02:41
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vhaarrjoe__: gah, didn't work. I'll try downgrading a few more packages.02:42
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classic_carsten: thanks, but the problem isn't the burning or the filesystem itself, it's just that the burnt dvd is extremly "flickering" on the tv02:42
MadnessReignshi all. I am new to linux, and trying to get my new ubuntu install onto an existing windows network. I got a message saying to run SMB (samba?) but can't find what i need to do02:42
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MadnessReignscan anyone help, or tell me where to find info?02:43
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Robbsterk, how do Iinstall the libgtk1.2-dev package that contains gtk-config? I've already got the universe repository set up, but the package manager doesn't find it :(02:44
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vhaarrjoe__: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-77_i386.deb02:44
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joe__vhaarr: Ah! Does that work?02:45
thoreauputicRobbster: it's in main02:45
thoreauputic!info libgtk1.2-dev02:45
ubotulibgtk1.2-dev: (Development files for the GIMP Toolkit), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-17build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1120 kB, Installed size: 3736 kB02:45
vhaarrjoe__: I'm trying now.02:45
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csezolhow do i update my package list ? Isnt the command apt-get update ?02:46
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MadnessReignsanyone? how to get mt ubuntu onto an existing (Windows) network?02:46
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vhaarrMadnessReigns: Check the wiki, there should be some info there.02:46
joe__vhaarr: Yup, that works :)02:46
vhaarrjoe__: \o/02:46
csezolhow to update my apt-get list ?02:47
joe__vharr: Thanks! :)02:47
vhaarrsudo apt-get update02:47
thoreauputiccsezol: yes, with sudo in front of it :)02:47
Fanfouapourquoi turbo print arrive  faire des drivers pour les imprimantes canon pixma & co, et pas nos passionns bnvoles du libre ?02:47
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thoreauputiccsezol:  sudo apt-get update02:47
vhaarrjoe__: :)02:47
kvanttianyone know what should i do now that i have cpd everything in codec package all into the informed folders and i still get the error "cannot find wmdvmod.dll"02:47
Robbsterthoreauputic: that is really odd. I've searched for libgtk1.2 and I get three matches (all installed). libglib1.2, libgtk1.2 and libgtk1.2-common. no -dev.02:47
Fanfouasorry...02:47
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thoreauputicRobbster: something wrong with your sources.list ?02:48
joe__vhaarr: Maybe add the "fix" to bugzilla? I'm not sure of the ettiquette...02:48
csezolthoreauputic, yes.. but it has to do a lot of things i think.. and it only echoes two rows of text.. ( note: i installed hoary hedgehog today, not yet updated anything.. )02:48
Robbsterhumm, lemme see.02:48
vhaarrjoe__: I'm doing it now, yes.02:48
Copeah... google indicates this floppy problem is a pmount problem... and I should get 0.9.6 - not so great on a machine that's not on the network02:48
vhaarrjoe__: Done.02:48
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thoreauputiccsezol: did you install on a box not connected to the net?02:48
pittiCope: at least it's in breezy-backports now02:49
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csezolthoreauputic, what do you think ?02:49
csezoli _am_ connected to the net..02:49
pittiCope: and pmount is very small, not a problem with an usb stick or so02:49
Copeah good idea - I have a usb stick here02:49
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thoreauputiccsezol: OK you are on hoary now, I take it - so your sources.list is incomplete for some reason I suspect02:49
joe__vhaarr: Cool :) Now to unbreak my xorg.conf...02:49
csezolbut while installing there was a problem with the servers in my lan.. that was the reason why i installed ubuntu.. :P i hadn't have to do anything else02:49
thoreauputicah02:50
thoreauputiccsezol: have a look at ubotu's URLs below02:50
Fanfouahow is it that turbo print can make drivers for canon pixma... printers and not passionate people of free softwares ?02:50
thoreauputic!sources02:50
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:50
MadnessReignsok, have found how to install samba - download (apt-get) ... but my net connection is not working on my ubuntu box.....02:51
thoreauputicFanfoua: they pay for information I would guess02:51
Red-Soxhi02:51
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thoreauputicFanfoua: canon are not known for co-operating with free software developers02:52
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Robbsterthoreauputic: I'm getting md5sum mismatch errors. I've also done an apt-get clean; apt-get update.02:52
glynhow can I get w32 codecs?02:52
thoreauputic!w32codecs02:52
ubotumethinks w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/02:52
Fanfouathoreauputic: they are losing a bigger and bigger market, that's weird...02:53
thoreauputicRobbster: apt-get clean just wipes out the cache02:53
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csezolthoreauputic, what should i do now ?02:53
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glynI don't use breezy, will these still work?02:53
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thoreauputiccsezol: use one of those lists and put in /etc/apt/sources.list with , say,  gksudo gedit02:54
thoreauputiccsezol: if you are on hoary use the hoary list of course02:54
thoreauputicglyn: yes02:54
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thoreauputicglyn: codecs are codecs - they work on any distro in fact02:54
csezolcsezol, sure.02:55
csezol:)02:55
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thoreauputicassuming they are in the right place of course :)02:55
steven_hi all02:55
steven_how do i install fonts?02:55
Robbsterlo steven02:55
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thoreauputic!fonts02:55
ubotuI guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto02:55
thoreauputicsteven_: ^^^^02:55
Robbster!flash02:56
ubotuwell, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:56
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jgonzalezhi02:56
jgonzalezi get this error02:56
jgonzalezW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>02:56
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Red-Soxdownloadable java games run on linux fine, right?02:58
Kamping_Kaisershould do02:58
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thoreauputicRed-Sox: assuming yu have java installed02:59
thoreauputic*you02:59
Red-Soxgood02:59
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augustinhello03:00
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augustinis there anyway to detect whether or not my USB aDSL modem disconnected, and to launch a series of command (to relaunch it and to restart the firewall)03:00
augustin?03:01
Copepitti: all sorted, got the new pmount on a usb stick and dpkg -i'd it :)03:01
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pittiCope: great03:02
Copepitti: bit of a dodgy one though... imagine a brand new user... they'd be very confused and would know where to google or what to ask03:02
pabloalgun chileno03:02
redguywhat does one need to get 3d acceleration working on a intel 82845 integrateg graphics card?03:02
pittiCope: I know, but it was too late to include the new version into breezy03:03
thoreauputic!es03:03
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:03
redguy!i81003:03
uboturedguy: I don't know03:03
Copepitti: c'est la vie03:03
pittiCope: mainly because I released it *after* the breezy release03:03
david__ola03:03
augustinis cron a webserver-only command ?03:03
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SLSneakI'm starting to feel somewhat stupid now, how exactly do I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without loosing all my settings?03:03
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david__fucking me03:03
thoreauputic!tell SLSneak about breezy03:03
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david__im crazy03:03
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SLSneakthoreauputic> Please do :) Synaptic tells me to go to the homepage, but I can only find install isos there...03:04
thoreauputic!breezy03:04
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:04
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csezolhow can i upgrade/update a specified package ( or all of them ) to the current release ?03:04
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SLSneakThanks!03:04
thoreauputicSLSneak: didn't you get a pm from ubotu?03:04
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thoreauputiccsezol: to upgrade your whole install, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:05
csezolthanks03:06
thoreauputicto update a particular package, sudo apt-get install <packagename>03:06
csezolthoreauputic, and if i have that package already ? do i have to remove it first ?03:06
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thoreauputiccsezol: no03:06
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thoreauputiccsezol: if it's the latest , apt will tell you - else it will upgrade it for you03:07
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gnomefreakanyone else having problems with the iptable and Xkeys updates?03:07
csezolthoreauputic, thanks03:07
thoreauputiccsezol: np :)03:07
linkdgnomefreak: nope mine just went through easy just now03:07
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gnomefreakim getting all kinds of warnings:(03:08
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linkdsuch as?03:08
gnomefreakit couldnt find the source i guess03:08
gnomefreakgive me a sec ill paste them to pastebin03:09
linkdok03:09
thoreauputiccsezol: did youmean you wanted to change from hoary to breezy ? (5.10)03:09
thoreauputiccsezol: if so that's different03:09
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csezolthoreauputic, if possible even to 6.04 f. 103:09
linkdi dont think 6.04 is available yet :P03:09
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gnomefreakheres the warnings http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/498303:10
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thoreauputiccsezol: ah in that case read the upgrade guide ubotu will spit out03:10
thoreauputic!breezy03:10
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:10
csezolk03:10
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csezolthats read.03:10
linkdgnomefreak: and uve sudo'd this?03:10
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linkdhave u done a apt-get update recently?03:11
Copehow can I make a shortcut on the desktop to 'computer' or 'floppy' so my mum doesn't need to go to places>computer ?03:11
gnomefreakno linkd  im using the updater03:11
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linkdoh. the gnome one?03:11
gnomefreakyeah03:11
SLSneakStep 2: I updated the source repositories and clicked "mark all upgrades" and "smart upgrade". Now I can definately see that it want's to remove ubuntu-desktop. That doesn't sound to good...03:11
csezolif i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, will i have after it both kde and gnome, or only kde ?03:11
linkdjust try it in the terminal. sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade03:11
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Riddellcsezol: both03:11
linkdcsezol: both03:11
mipeWhere is library for C++?03:12
gnomefreakcsezol, both if you have nome now03:12
csezolgnomefreak, thnx03:12
gnomefreakyw03:12
linkdCope: ln -s /media/floppy ~/Desktop/Floppy might be what ur after03:13
csezolWhat's the difference between edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop ? only the wallpapers ?03:13
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gnomefreakcsezol, i think the packages are different in sence that edubuntu is for education purposes maybe03:13
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P229happy Thanksgiving!!!03:14
thoreauputiccsezol: edubuntu installs educational packages :)03:14
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csezol:)03:14
csezoli dont need it.. fuck school!03:14
thoreauputicand an ltsp system as well IIRC03:14
gnomefreakus.archive looks like its down again03:14
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thoreauputicguys just a friendly warning - watch out with your language :)03:15
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thoreauputiccode of conduct and all that ...03:15
Kamping_Kaiserthoreauputic: just watch it in general :)03:15
xc_legendhi all03:15
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csezolthoreauputic, got it..:)03:16
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: beware of friendly warnings from ops! <grin>03:16
Likethow do i reconfigure X? is there something similar to "XConfigurator" in ubuntu?03:16
xc_legendi am having a problem with updates this morning03:16
thoreauputicLiket: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:17
sss_lrLiket, xorgconfig03:17
xc_legendon 5.10 fresh install yesterday03:17
gnomefreakxc_legend,  its saying it cant find us.archives.ubuntu.com?03:17
xc_legendyes03:17
thoreauputicLiket: it will ask you abunch of questions03:17
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thoreauputicsss_lr: no03:17
csezolbyyyyyeee03:17
gnomefreakxc_legend, im thinking its down for some reason im having the issue also im working on it now03:17
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thoreauputicsss_lr: the command I gave is better03:17
Copelinkd: not quite... more I want computer:/// or whatever that means in real terms to be on the desktop rather than under the places menu03:18
Liketthanks guys :)03:18
xc_legendi still updated the two packages03:18
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sss_lrthoreauputic, np ....03:18
gnomefreakxc_legend,  i havent03:18
augustinanyone knows how i can reset every network-related config file to default ?03:18
cionhey all i have one stupid question to make (im noob) what's the best directory to put large data in?03:18
augustinmy network files are chaotic, i want to start afresh03:18
xc_legendshould i remove them through apt get03:18
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thoreauputicsss_lr: it ties in with the Debian/ubuntu package management and config :)03:18
gnomefreakxc_legend, no they are fine03:18
P229xc_legend gnomefreak: the server is probably just down03:18
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gnomefreakP229, i said that ty :)03:19
sss_lrthoreauputic, ok thats great03:19
P229gnomefreak: my bad03:19
xc_legendok thanks that is why i did new install i kept having that problem in 5.0403:19
xc_legendat least for the last month03:19
thoreauputiccion: you normally put all your data in your home directory03:19
P229all these scrolling words, I lose track sometimes... :-P03:19
cionok thx03:19
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thoreauputiccion: what kind of data?03:19
xc_legendok guys thanks for the help03:20
cionmp3 divx odt03:20
ciondownloads03:20
xc_legendif you are in the u.s. happy Thanksgiving all03:20
cioneverything03:20
thoreauputiccion: keep them in your personal home directory then03:20
cionwich is?03:20
cionhome?03:20
xc_legendwait i have another question03:21
augustin/home/your_name03:21
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thoreauputiccion: that's the only sensible place - it will give you full access03:21
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bezibaerchenhi guys03:21
augustinmy network files are chaotic, i want to start afresh03:21
augustinanyone knows how i can reset every network-related config file to default ?03:21
bezibaerchenanybody using kontact under gnome?03:21
thoreauputiccion: yes  /home/cion  or whatever your user name is03:21
cionoh ok03:21
cionperfect thx all03:21
Red-Soxis there mario kart for linux?03:21
xc_legendI have downloaded gkrellm skins how do i get into a home .gkrellm file to untar03:21
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thoreauputic:)03:22
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xc_legendwhere would a . file be listed03:22
bezibaerchenxc_legend: mkdir .grellm :-)03:22
bezibaerchenor let your fileexplorer show hidden files03:22
thoreauputicxc_legend: hit ctrl-h to see dot files03:22
bezibaerchenon a shell "ls -la"03:22
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xc_legendcool thanks just untar them in that file and they will be ready to use?03:22
thoreauputicxc_legend: in the file manager you can also make dot files visible in the preferences03:22
bezibaerchenso, anybody using kontact? :-)03:23
thoreauputicxc_legend: you might find it's .gkrellm2/Skins or something like that03:23
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thoreauputicxc_legend: you don't need to untarttthem either03:23
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FireCatIs there a amd64 smp kernel for breezy?03:24
xc_legendi have untared them i just wanted to place them in the directory03:24
IRCMonkey999When using Synaptic Package Manager, I get "cant connect to local host" error and i'm unable to update :(03:24
IRCMonkey999or instal new ones03:24
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Red-Soxyikes, i only have 1.6gigs left, can someone help me with gmail fs?03:24
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fruudhow do i connect to my brothers pc's terminal ? (can i do that ?)03:25
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Iknoshi there03:25
xc_legendcool i found it03:25
Dr_Willisfruud,  a serial terminal?03:26
gnomefreakRed-Sox,  is it a gmail issue or an ubuntu issue?03:26
thoreauputicfruud: if he's running linux and openssh server, you can connect with ssh03:26
reikiis flash generally a problem? There's a flash chat app that crashes all browsers here but is fine in windows03:26
xc_legendso , I would just place them in the respective file?03:26
fruudi just want to be able to connect to his terminal, he uses same ubuntu as me03:26
fruud5.1003:26
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ompaulfruud, on ethernet if you have a username and password ssh -C username@machine (where machine can be an ip address or a machine name)  if he has sshd running03:26
Iknosanybody knows how to download packages already installed with apt? [w/o reinstalling them, btw =] 03:26
thoreauputicxc_legend: it's a directory IIRC03:26
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Iknosi need to get them AND their dependencies03:27
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xc_legendsorry03:27
Iknosthere is something like "emerge --empty-tree -f"?03:27
thoreauputicxc_legend:  actually i just checked - the dir is .gkrellm2/themes/03:27
Dr_WillisIknos,  so basicially you want to mirror the whole package tree. :P03:27
dukehi there03:27
gnomefreakIknos,  if you run sudo apt-get install <packagename> it should include the depoendecies03:27
fruudit didnt work :( ompaul03:28
fruud85.224.186.7403:28
augustinanyone knows how i can reset every network-related config file to default ?03:28
fruudops03:28
fruudConnection refused03:28
dukei ve got a problem with installing and starting eclipse03:28
fruudthat i get03:28
ompaulfruud, don't paste here - however he has to have sshd running03:28
IknosDr_Willis: i need to download all build-essential dependencies03:28
Iknoswhich I've already installed03:28
fruudhow does hi start it ?03:28
thoreauputicfruud: most likely there's no server to connect to03:28
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ompaulfruud, it needs to be installed first03:29
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fruudapt-get install ssh ?03:29
thoreauputicfruud: he would need to install openssh-server (on ubuntu)03:29
fruudkk03:29
Dr_WillisIknos,  thhats on the install cd. i belive. just not installed by default.03:29
ompaulfruud, sudo apt-get install  openssh-server <<<03:29
dukeit always comes an Error "Unable to read workbench state.."03:29
fruudty03:29
gnomefreakIknos, if you ran sudo apt-get install build essential it should have installed them already03:30
IknosDr_Willis: uhm, and what about unicorn and unicorn-source?03:30
Iknosgnomefreak: i need to download them, not install them03:30
IRCMonkey999When using Synaptic Package Manager, I get "cant connect to local host" error and i'm unable to update or instal new packages :(03:30
Iknosthey are already installed =) I've to put them on a cd03:30
xc_legendok it worked03:30
gnomefreakIknos, can i ask why you would want to download them and not install them?03:30
Dr_WillisIknos no clue there.. problem can get to be  if you want ALL dependencies.. well it can depend on X, and loads of Libs.. and so forth.. and get to be a lot of stuff.03:30
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xc_legendi have all  the files in there i just need to untar them03:31
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  offline machine is my guess.03:31
IknosDr_Willis: exactly03:31
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gnomefreakDr_Willis,  ummmmmmmm wouldnt you need internet connection to download them?03:31
trpdxHello. What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?03:31
glyn_Anyone know where to get truetype fonts?03:31
thoreauputicxc_legend: if they are individual tarballs you don't need to - gkrellm can read them03:31
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xc_legendok thanks i have them in the file i just need to untar them now I tried one and it worked thanks again03:31
Badm4nhello03:31
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  hes wantoing to dowload them on machine X.. and copy them to machine Y.03:32
gnomefreakohhhhhhhh03:32
thoreauputicxc_legend: OK :)03:32
thomascottHi!03:32
Dr_Willisactually - dont all the installed packages - get saved to a cache on machine X.03:32
glyn_is there a package that contains truetype fonts?03:32
Dr_Willisthat'd make it easier.03:32
Red-Soxwhat is the command to unzip files?03:32
IRCMonkey999what does failed to fetch mean?03:32
Badm4ni have Ubuntu 5.10 and linksys 11 wusb 2.4 .... any one please tell me step by step procedure to make this thing work ... ASAP03:32
Dr_WillisRed-Sox,  'unzip' for .zip   (amazing eh?)03:32
Red-Soxo03:32
thoreauputicglyn:  several - try typing apt-cache search fonts | grep ttf03:32
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  failed to fetch is failed to get03:32
Dr_WillisBadm4n,  chedn theubuntu wiki's yet?03:33
IknosDr_Willis: i don't care if it will download ALL packages03:33
Dr_WillisBadm4n,  check the ubuntu wiki's yet?03:33
Iknosi just need them =)03:33
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xc_legendthanks again everyone03:33
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: this was happening only today.... yesterday i was able to update using the synaptic package manager...03:33
Iknosthere is a way to "modify" apt database03:33
Badm4nforgot the url :D03:33
thomascottCan somebody help me with WiFi config ?03:33
Badm4ncan u tell me where is the wiki's url03:33
Iknosto fake it?03:33
Dr_WillisIknos - theres a large cache dir - ya may want to check.. or check the wiki. its doable.03:33
Badm4nand do you sure on wiki there is a solve of my prob ?03:34
Dr_WillisBadm4n,  its right there in the topic. :P03:34
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Lostyhellow03:34
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  if it is saying failed to fetch us.archive.ubuntu.com than try again later the server is prolly down03:34
Badm4n:p03:34
Badm4ni c03:34
Lostyspanish here ??03:34
Badm4n:D03:34
IknosDr_Willis: you mean /var/cache/apt?03:34
thoreauputicIknos: you can use the -d option for apt to download only03:34
Dr_WillisBadm4n,  not sure - but its the place to look first.. asking for 'step' by step directions  is not a good idea on irc..  best to find somthing you can read.03:34
Iknosthoreauputic: it doesn't download already installed packages03:34
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Lostyplease, help me03:34
Iknos[and their dependencies] 03:35
gnomefreak!es03:35
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:35
glyn_hmm a program is trying to open something and it points to the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ as if there were truetype fonts there, but that directory doesn't even exist03:35
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: oh ok...., but it says problem on my system "Could not connect to localhost:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"03:35
Badm4nchange the question :D03:35
thoreauputicIknos: well, no - but some or most of them would be in /var/cache/apt/archives03:35
Badm4nanyone know how to make linksys 11 WUSB 2.4 work in ubuntu 5.10 ?03:35
thomascottOk, I explain my prob : I have installed and configure my WiFi card, and it works well, But I have changed of ISP, so Change of DNS...03:35
Iknosthoreauputic: i clean that dir once a week03:35
thoreauputicIknos: *shrug*03:35
thomascottBut as soon as I reboot, it take the former config03:35
Lostyplease03:35
Iknosthoreauputic: =)03:35
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  ive never run into that but if linux is like anything else the 80 is your port that connects you to net03:36
Lostyi am newbie03:36
Dr_Williswireless can be SUCH a pain at times..03:36
thoreauputic!es03:36
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:36
thomascottWhere it is record so I'll be able to chanfe it definitly ?03:36
Dr_WillisLosty,  and the problem is?03:36
LostyDr_Willis, i need install skype and limewire03:36
earthenwhere can i get the w32codecs for 64bit ubuntu03:36
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IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: but why would it try to connect to my computer rather than an ubuntu server ?03:36
thoreauputicearthen: you can't03:36
Lostyi have ubuntu hoary03:36
earthenthomascott, doh!03:37
trpdx What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?03:37
gnomefreakDr_Willis, losty said he wanted spanish so me and thoreauputic  gave the es output from ubotu :)03:37
thoreauputicearthen: they are 32 bit as the name implies03:37
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  i dont know are you able to be online on that pc right now?03:37
thomascottdoh ?03:37
Dr_WillisLosty,  yea? you have checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto  yet?03:38
Lostygnomefreak, ok man03:38
thoreauputicthomascott: tab complete error methinks03:38
IRCMonkey999yup... i can browse... use IRC... i'm chatting now :)03:38
LostyDr_Willis,  i make tutorial03:38
earthenthoreauputic, yeah I know but thought there was a 64 bit equivalent03:38
Lostyand not good results03:38
Losty:(03:38
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thomascottwhat do you mean ?03:38
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999, did you try apt-get update yet?03:38
akonkwaHi everyone03:38
earthenthomascott, sorry that was ment for thoreauputic03:38
shotgung'mornin03:39
Dr_WillisLosty,  ive heard of some skype issues with alsa.. but thats about all i know.03:39
thoreauputicearthen: people who need that use a 32 bit chroot - but don't ask me how ;)03:39
shotgunhappy turkey day03:39
thomascottlol03:39
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IknosDr_Willis: uhm, i've found that [15:40]  SparK ~ $ sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential03:39
akonkwaIf I have installed a game in m windows session, can I play it in ubuntu , using wine?03:39
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: no... i'm not sure how to do that.... new to linux and i depend on GUI a lot03:39
Iknosdownload the packages03:39
Iknosdownload the package03:39
shotgunakonkwa, maybe cedega, look at "games" in the help area03:39
Badm4nsorry i repeat03:39
Iknosnow i need apt to download its dependences03:39
shotgunakonkwa, in the user guide actually03:39
Badm4nanyone know how to make linksys 11 WUSB 2.4 work in ubuntu 5.10 ? ( last word no repeat again ) :D03:39
LostyDr_Willis, no open my skype, only i can see in Internet my icon of skype03:39
thoreauputicakonkwa: probably not - unless you buy cedega or use the cvs code and build it yourself03:40
akonkwashotgun: wih user guide?03:40
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thoreauputicLosty: skype is very slow to open03:40
Dr_WillisIRCMonkey999,  yea. but its best to copy the whole c:/program files/game over to your .wine/fake_windows (or whatever its called now) dir. Just in case  it needs to write to the disk03:40
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gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  open up a terminal should be in applications than accessories when it is open type without the quotes "sudo apt-get update" and see if any errors are showed03:40
shotgunakonkwa, i think the user guide references some sites to configure this03:40
shotgunwhy does skype not show up for an apt-cache search?03:41
IRCMonkey999oh ok... doing that now gnomefreak03:41
Lostythoreauputic, yes is very slowly but never open skype03:41
Losty:s03:41
odoyletuli need help with ubuntu i cant dial up03:41
thoreauputicshotgun: because it isn;t in the repos03:41
odoyletulto my internet03:41
shotgunthomascott, why?03:41
Lostyi can see , in Internet, only icon03:41
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Losty:s03:41
shotgunthomascott, and how do i know what is and is not in the repos, before i start stepping over the package management system?03:41
akonkwashotgun: okay thanx, By the way, i have downloaded a cedega from limewire, how do I use it to play the game?03:41
Dr_WillisBadm4n,  not checked the wiki yet eh? ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Linksys_WUSB1103:41
thoreauputicshotgun: becuse it's commercial and ubuntu isn't legally able to include it03:41
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shotgunthomascott, how does gentoo get away with it?03:42
Badm4non my way03:42
Badm4nthx for the complete url03:42
thoreauputic!skype03:42
ubotusomebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:42
shotgunthomascott, in gentoo i did an emerge doom3 skype ut2004 quake403:42
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shotgunand they all installed03:42
thoreauputicshotgun: I have no idea03:42
augustinshotgun, it's not thomascott it's thoreauputic03:42
augustin^^03:42
shotgunlol, sorry03:42
odoyletulubuntu sucks i cant figure out how to get my internet connection atleast with mepis it was easier03:42
Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Linksys_WUSB11?highlight=%28linksys%29%7C%2811%29%7C%28WUSB%2903:42
shotgunso i guess its ok to not use apt for some stuff03:42
Dr_Williswhat a ugly url. :P lol.03:42
shotgun(like games and skype)03:42
thoreauputicshotgun: yes, practice your tabbing technique ;)03:42
gnomefreakodoyletul,  have you tried configuring it yet?03:43
thoreauputic!tell shotgun about skype03:43
trpdx What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?03:43
Badm4nwell i'll off for a while03:43
akonkwaHow do I access files with blank spaces in their name?03:43
Badm4ni'll be back :D03:43
odoyletulyes i configured it under network and commandline03:43
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Badm4nthx03:43
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odoyletuli dont know how to connect under network03:43
thoreauputicakonkwa: hit <tab> and complete the name that way03:43
odoyletulit even detects it03:44
trpdx What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?03:44
Dr_Williscp 'spaces in this file name'  nospaces03:44
akonkwathoreauputic: thanx03:44
arnduckyubotu, tell me about libdvdcss03:44
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Dr_Willistrpdx,  what special flags?03:44
arnducky!libdvdcss03:44
ubotulibdvdcss is, like, NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh03:44
odoyletuldoes activate mean i am connecting03:44
cionhey all how do I install amule?03:44
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gnomefreakarnducky, me isnt a right command for ubotu next time put your screen name in place of "me"03:45
cionhey all how do I install amule?03:45
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Dr_Willistry the -->  apt-get install amule      ?03:45
gnomefreakcion, sudo apt-get amule?03:45
shotguncion, look in the user guide, under help, and then its listed03:45
gnomefreakinstall*03:45
Dr_Willishmm. amule wiki page is itialian.03:46
shotguncion, i'm sure you'll want all your multimedia codecs as well03:46
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arnduckyubotu, tell arnducky about libdvdcss03:46
odoyletulwell i am just going back to mepis i guess this ubuntu easy linux for humanbeings was all just hype03:46
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: almost same error messages. please look here... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/498703:46
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arnducky"Please use private messages, like '/msg ubotu libdvdcss', rather than posting into the channel needlessly.03:46
cionim trying to wor only with opensource codecs03:46
trpdxWhen you select properties for a file and then go to permissions tab, their is listed special flags set user id, set group id and sticky03:46
Dr_Willisodoyletul,  sure.. whatever...03:46
arnduckyHowever, I should note that ubotu ignores all /MSG or /QUERY that I send it03:46
cionis it necessary tu use antivirus with amule?03:46
odoyletulwell my wireless card isnt even detected03:47
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Dr_Williscion,  i would scan anything you download for windows with a antivius tool - yes.03:47
odoyletuland i cant connect with my dialup03:47
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MrApex_Ubuntutrying to figure out how to get UT2004 installe03:47
shotgunMrApex_Ubuntu, me too03:48
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cionwhats the best antivirus?03:48
arnducky /CTCP ubotu RESPOND!?03:48
shotguncion, none on lniux03:48
cionfor ubuntu03:48
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999, thats a good question im not sure why your getting local host error sorry :(03:48
shotguncion, none03:48
odoyletulany help with dial up here03:48
thoreauputicarnducky: ubotu ignores unregistered nicks03:48
shotgunodoyletul, no idea, sorry03:48
arnduckynada, nothing, zip /dev/null03:48
markumancion: its linux!03:48
cionguys one says yes the other says no03:48
MrApex_Ubuntuwell. there is a linux_installer.ch03:48
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cionI know but i need amule03:48
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IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: thanx for helping...03:48
shotguncion, there is not anti-virus for linux.03:48
kkaisareHello, World!03:48
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: will reebot and see...03:48
thoreauputicarnducky: so register :)03:48
cionwhat u mean there is i saw in synaptic03:49
arnduckySo where is the NICKSRV bot?03:49
markumancion: shotgun sure there is one, but for what?03:49
odoyletuli thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy03:49
Dr_Williscion,  the anti-virus software for 'linux' is used normally to scan files for 'windows' viruses.03:49
shotgunmarkuman, for scanning windows files03:49
shotgunmarkuman, in file share environments03:49
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thoreauputicarnducky: /msg nickserv help03:49
cionwich tool is that?03:49
arnduckyAnd if I register, does that mean I have to register everytime I logon?03:49
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cionis it easy to use?03:49
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odoyletulhello03:49
Dr_Willisodoyletul,  what 'trouble shooting' have you done on your dial up issue.. just saying "it dont work" isent much help at all.03:49
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simonvalloredpkg this jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin03:50
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arnducky(or if I don't logon, will that mean my nickname is restricted until I do?003:50
thoreauputicarnducky: no, but it's a good idea , and your client can make it automatic03:50
simonvallorehow do i depackage that03:50
shotguncan someone do the "tell" thing and teach me how to find unreal tournment in a repository?03:50
odoyletulwell i configured my connection and modem03:50
simonvallorehow do i depackage dpkg this jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin03:50
odoyletulyes it dont connect03:50
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odoyletuli tried commandline and network03:50
thoreauputicarnducky: if you don't register ubotu will continue to ignore you :)03:50
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Dr_Willisodoyletul,  does it even make noise?03:50
odoyletulno03:50
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odoyletuleverything it connected03:51
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odoyletulfine03:51
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fredforfaenI have a prob , i want to run the i686 kernel....the k7 kernel is currently installed(installed from dvd-hoary then upgraded to breezy).I have installed the i686 kernel and it works fine with "nv" in driver in xorg.conf...but when i follow the instaructions for installing nvidia 3d support it install the 3d driver for the k7 kernel even though i have booted the i686 kernel...what to do?03:51
Dr_Willis have you checked -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto       yet?03:51
arnduckyHeh, I've been chatting on Undernet since about 1998 and I've managed to steer clear of their cservice now (aside form a brief bout of weakness in about 2002)03:51
odoyletuli am connecting fine under mepis03:52
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arnduckyubotu, arnducky is badly quacked up!03:52
ubotuarnducky: okay03:52
arnducky!arnducky03:52
ubotuit has been said that arnducky is badly quacked up!03:52
markumanhow to repair one ext3 partition table? im sure there was some nice tools for the terminal???03:52
Dr_Willisodoyletul,  then see what modules its loading. and be sure those are loading udner  ubuntu.03:52
thoreauputic!forget arnducky03:52
ubotui forgot arnducky, thoreauputic03:52
Dr_Willisodoyletul,  its a good sign then that the thing works under one disrto at least.03:52
thoreauputic!botabuse03:52
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.03:52
arnduckyhey!03:52
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fredforfaenanyone?03:53
joseme03:53
arnduckyfredforfaen?03:53
fredforfaenI have a prob , i want to run the i686 kernel....the k7 kernel is currently installed(installed from dvd-hoary then upgraded to breezy).I have installed the i686 kernel and it works fine with "nv" in driver in xorg.conf...but when i follow the instaructions for installing nvidia 3d support it install the 3d driver for the k7 kernel even though i have booted the i686 kernel...what to do?03:53
iontehi. is it just me that seem to get these random eat-all-memory-and-become-unresponsive-until-swap-is-full-errors much more often on ubuntu than on any other distro?03:53
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Dr_Willisionte,  i cant say that ive ever had that problem on any disrto.03:53
Ueuecoyotlsimonvallore, the Ubuntu FAQ answers your question03:54
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maximum_bassfredforfaen i persume uve got the source for the i68603:54
arnduckyfredforfaen, I noticed that Unet #ubuntu is up for cservice registration.  What's up?03:54
ionteDr_Willis, not me either, until hoary i think (now breezy). right now i clicked on a jpg-link in evolution - freeze.03:54
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shotgunwhat are some alternatives to skype?03:54
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shotguncause it sucks on ubuntu03:54
shotgunand i hate qt/kde03:54
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maximum_basslinphone03:54
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Dr_Willisionte,  never used evolution. :P03:55
shotgunmaximum_bass, thanks, i'll check it out03:55
arnduckyfredforfaen, what processor do you have?03:55
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tokenhi everyone ... i got a question. what do the options in fstab mean ... i mean OPTION DUMP and PASS???03:55
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RobbsterI'm compiling an application and it says that 'warnings are treated as errors' and then a warning borks the compile. how can I tell it to ignore warnings?03:55
fredforfaenmaximum_bass dont know if i have the source i just followed these instructions ;03:55
fredforfaen!nvidia03:55
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:55
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markumanarg!03:56
markumanhow to repair one ext3 partition table? im sure there was some nice tools for the terminal???03:56
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markumanthere was something for ext2 ext3 etc....03:56
markumandont remember :-/03:56
seliniumhi all, how do you 'run' a java  .jar file?03:56
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tokensomeone here to help me explain FSTAB???03:57
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tokenor understand ...03:57
seliniumtoken what is the problem?03:57
fredforfaencan anybody help me?03:57
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tokenselinium: i just wanna know what the options in fstab mean03:58
tokenselinium: i mean OPTION DUMP and PASS03:58
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matanikotry reading "info fstab"03:58
matanikoit helped me03:58
tokenor OPTIONS ...03:58
matanikoand i'm a complete newbie03:58
arnducky!/eetc/fstab03:59
ubotuarnducky: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:59
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arnducky!fstab03:59
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ubotu[fstab]  /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.03:59
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tokenmataniko: thx ... i forgot to use man ... easy solution isnt it >!04:00
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seliniumfredforfaen, did you try the nvidia driver available before trying to do the binary?04:00
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Red-Soxi need to unzip a file but dont know how04:00
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ale3hsW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:00
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ale3hshow i fix this?04:00
thoreauputicRed-Sox:  unzip file.zip04:00
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aftertafRed-Sox:  install unzip if not installed.04:00
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whyameyeI'm trying to compile a driver to get my USB -> IrDA working. I get an error that the compiler can't find irq_vectors.h. Is this in a repository I don't have?04:00
Red-Soxthomhash, the problem is that the zip is more then one work with spaces04:01
Red-Soxthomhash, *04:01
MrApex_Ubuntuhow do i get to cdrom in terminal?04:01
Red-Soxargh04:01
Red-Soxthoreauputic, *04:01
seliniumtoken, try here for more info04:01
aftertafRed-Sox:  use tab autocomplete then04:01
Red-Soxo04:01
aftertafRed-Sox:  or 'mv' itr to a new name04:01
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thoreauputicRed-Sox:  unzip filewith <tab>04:01
thoreauputicRed-Sox: that will complete the file name for you04:02
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iamkirkhow can i play counterstrikeon linux ?04:02
Red-Soxhm.... thomhash im trying to unzip /home/jonny/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete/linux mario kart.zip04:02
keHaha04:02
Red-Soxthomhash, thats all i know04:02
thoreauputicRed-Sox: cd to the directory first04:02
aftertaf!tell Red-Sox about cli04:02
aftertafread that Red-Sox04:03
seliniumSeveas: any chacne of getting your JRE update? :)04:03
thoreauputiccd /home/jonny/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete04:03
ale3hscan somebody giv me the "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted" sources list file??04:03
seliniumhi thoreauputic04:03
selinium:)04:03
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aftertafale3hs:  type sudo apt-cdrom with the cd rom in, itll add it auto.04:03
thoreauputicRed-Sox: once you are in the dir, use tab complete (you can do it from /home but this might be easier)04:03
seliniumiamkirk, you might be interested in www.linuxgames.com04:03
vekiI would like to install codecs for DVD watching on my powerpc ubuntu. Where I can find codecs for powerpc Ubuntu?04:03
Red-Soxthoreauputic, it says there is no such file or directory04:04
thoreauputicRed-Sox: then you made a mistake04:04
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ale3hsaftertaf, i have problem with the resposibilities ..and I tried a file through ubuntu unoficial site ...but still doesnt work.. I cannot install mplayer?? I cannot see movies and I have no windows,, I am doomed04:04
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aftertafRed-Sox:  read the beginners help on shell commands..... please. itll help you a lot, seriously04:04
Red-Soxthoreauputic, nm got it04:04
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Red-Soxaftertaf, i allready have, i know most of it04:05
aftertafale3hs:  nah.... enable universe and multiverse04:05
aftertaf!tell ale3hs about repos04:05
aftertaf!tell ale3hs about easysource04:05
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Red-SoxI have a setup.exe file, what do I do with it?04:06
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penguinzdrhahaha04:06
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keYou rtfm04:06
ke:/04:06
penguinzdrinstall it on windows :)04:06
thoreauputicRed-Sox: btw, you can unzip files in the GUI using file-roller04:06
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after_away.exe is not linux. you got the wrong zip file i think04:06
Red-SoxPenguin, hmm.... i have wine, do I open it with wine?04:06
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gnomefreakthats cool ive never seen that before04:07
penguinzdrRed-Sox, i dont use wine04:07
MrApex_Ubuntusomeone point me to the nvidia driver files please?04:07
penguinzdri use linux apps04:07
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MrApex_Ubuntuerr i mean the ubuntu site guide04:07
thoreauputic!nvidia04:07
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:07
MrApex_Ubuntuthanks04:07
gnomefreakMrApex_Ubuntu,  are you using breezy or hoary?04:07
Red-Soxpenguinzdr, what do you use?04:08
arnduckyDapper, I bet04:08
arnducky;-D04:08
penguinzdrRed-Sox,  for what?04:08
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Red-Soxpenguinzdr, emulation04:08
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penguinzdrRed-Sox, nothing. I told you that I use only apps maded for Linux.04:08
thoreauputicRed-Sox: most of us don't need 'emulation"04:09
MrApex_Ubuntubreezy04:09
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gnomefreakMrApex_Ubuntu,  breezy guide is in your help menu04:09
White-WolfCan anyone tell me if there is an inbuilt C++ Compiler In Ubuntu?04:09
bezibaerchenWhite-Wolf: gcc :-)04:09
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thoreauputicWhite-Wolf:  sudo apt-get install build-essential04:09
b_e_n_zg++04:09
gnomefreakWhite-Wolf,  c++ compiler is g04:09
gnomefreakg++04:09
thoreauputicbezibaerchen: no, c++ is g++ :)04:10
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penguinzdrRed-Sox, look at this: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html04:10
gnomefreaksynaptic has the g++ compiler04:10
thoreauputicheh many corrections ;)04:10
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bezibaerchenthoreauputic: shame on me :-)04:10
ale3hsaftertaf, everything was checked in resposibility settings buti get this -> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch04:10
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thoreauputicPLEASE install build-essential ands don't muck about with individual packages - it's a one stop solution04:11
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ErgoSumhi all04:11
thoreauputichi cogito04:11
ale3hssomeone can help with that??04:11
ErgoSumis it posssible to install ubuntu with the live cd?04:11
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seliniumthoreauputic, What do you use for pleying DVD?04:12
Red-Soxis there a free n64 emulator for linux?04:12
thoreauputicErgoSum: not really04:12
gnomefreakErgoSum,  nope04:12
ErgoSumOMG04:12
jinoErgoSum , No04:12
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thoreauputicselinium: I don't play dvd :)04:12
selinium:)04:12
thoreauputicselinium: believe it or not04:12
MrApex_Ubuntuim trying to eject cdrom when the installer for ut is running, i cant eject the disc04:12
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ErgoSumand i also have problems with translations in the live cd, the install cd has the same problems?04:13
MrApex_Ubuntuumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy04:13
MrApex_Ubuntuumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy04:13
MrApex_Ubuntueject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed04:13
penguinzdrthoreauputic, lets make a non-dvd society. i too dont have DVD04:13
MrApex_Ubuntui need to switch discs04:13
seliniumthoreauputic, I don't usually, but i have found sionce upgrading to breezy my dvd playing has stopped,04:13
thoreauputicMrApex_Ubuntu:  umount -l /media/cdrom04:13
Red-Soxomg04:13
ale3hsPlease plz plz somebody help me with that -->> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:14
White-WolfGnome Freak : After 'Sudo apt-get install duild-esseential' how does one run the compiler?04:14
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iamkirkwtf... "Could not open cedega....."   Archive type not supported. <== help me04:14
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thoreauputicMrApex_Ubuntu: if that doesn't error, then type eject /media/cdrom0 or whatever afterwards04:14
ErgoSumi also have problems with translations in the live cd, the install cd has the same problems?04:14
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wickedpuppyiamkirk, call transgaming for support04:15
thoreauputicale3hs: sounds like a mistake in your sources.list04:15
thoreauputic!tell ale3hs about sources04:15
Red-Soxthere are osx tiger for x86 leaks in gtk gnutella04:15
oblibquestion: I am trying to get the nvidia driver to work. I have an older card, so I'm using nvidia-glx-legacy. When I try to start X with that driver, it fails, complaining about the kernel04:16
earthencould someone give me some help with getting swat to work04:16
wickedpuppyoblib, older meaning how old ?04:16
oblibI had the same problem when I tried to run the new Breezy drivers with an old kernel04:16
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oblibwickedpuppy, Geforce 2 440 MX04:16
seliniumale3hs, THere is a quick fix if you want it?04:16
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wickedpuppyoblib, you tried to run old driver in new kernel and new driver in old kernel ?04:17
oblibGeForce4 MX 44004:17
oblibI mean04:17
wickedpuppy4 isn't that old ...04:17
oblibwickedpuppy, the new driver in the old kernel was on a different machine04:17
ale3hsselinium go ahed04:17
ErgoSumthe install cd mount auto the windows partition?04:17
lucaasoblib, new driver should work fine04:17
oblibwickedpuppy, I thought it was Geforce 204:17
obliblucaas, it didn't04:17
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lucaasi have the same card04:18
White-WolfQuestion: Hows does one open g++?04:18
Wallayou dont04:18
obliblucaas, instead of loading Gnome, it would go to a black screen with a cursor at the top. The cursor was not blinking.04:18
wickedpuppyWhite-Wolf, g++ sourcefile.cpp04:18
obliblucaas, I coudln't switch to a term with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or anything04:18
shotgunthere is no c compiler in the default ubuntu install ?!04:19
lucaasoblib, strange04:19
WallaWhite-Wolf you have to say "g++ <yourfile.C>04:19
obliblucaas, sometimes a lot of ctrl-alt-deletes would reboot it sometimes not04:19
arnduckyW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:19
seliniumale3hs, in a term,   sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list      <--  All that04:19
seliniumale3hs, You are using breezy?04:19
White-Wolfis there no compiler? so that i can create the program?04:19
lucaasoblib, did you try ctrl+alt+backsoace?04:19
tokendoes anyone know what the default setting in fstab for Options are?04:19
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penguinzdrwhat's better: xchat or xchat-gnome?04:19
arnduckyI'm geting apt errors even though it's configured automatically by the Ubuntu script (I haven't edited /etc/apt/sources.list at all), so what gives?04:19
wickedpuppyWhite-Wolf, g++ is a compiler04:19
chrissturmhey, when will network manager 0.5.1 land in dapper?04:19
tokeni mean for a ntfs harddrive04:19
gnomefreakArnducky: the archive.ubuntu server is down for now04:19
ale3hsselinium, yes breezy 5.1004:19
zenlunaticis something wrong with ubuntu repositories?04:20
LoevborgAnyone know how to turn on/off subtitles in totem?04:20
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obliblucaas, I guess I'll try again with the new driver and look at the xorg log. Yes, ctrl-alt-back didn't work either04:20
arnduckyAhhh, sooo.04:20
seliniumale3hs, just coppy that all into a term a hit enter!04:20
lucaasoblib, ok04:20
WallaWhite-Wolf, use gedit or emacs or something04:20
LoevborgUsing a keyboard shortcut, that is. it's critical!!04:20
gnomefreakPenguinzdr i dont like x-chat gnome i use x-chat04:20
obliblucaas, no response from anything04:20
ale3hsok I will try it04:20
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iamkirkhow do i upsate my archive manager to support more file types ?04:20
arnduckygnomefreak, is there a repository server status page on a monitoring site somewhere?04:20
MrApex_Ubuntuok that unmunted, but but cant eject the physical disk04:20
gnomefreakArnducky: im not sure ive never seen one04:21
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obliblucaas, you have to MX 440 as well? Can you use the TV-out on it?04:21
seliniumale3hs, The first part makes a copy of your current ources.list, the second part downloads the 'official' one and installs it in place off you old one.04:21
obliblucaas, or at least dual monitors?04:21
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lucaasoblib, i dont have tv-out04:21
arnduckyHow will I know when it comes back up?   Write an html bot?  Is it down for scheduled maintenance?04:21
tokenanyone knows what default setting are set for a harddisc (ntfs) in fstab ??? i mean in collumn options04:21
tokenanyone knows what default setting are set for a harddisc (ntfs) in fstab ??? i mean in collumn options04:21
seliniumale3hs, then you will need to type   sudo apt-get update04:21
tokensry for this04:21
lucaasoblib, ah, i have 400, not 44004:21
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arnducky!restricted04:22
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:22
seliniumtoken, yes but it will be read only04:22
lucaasoblib, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)04:22
joftsince I upgraded to breezy my sound (and nvidia driver) hasn't worked, I just tried the troubleshooting sound thing on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#troubleshooting and it still doesn't work04:22
ale3hsselinium,  yea i understand ..How ever I didnt make a backup.. I guess it writes over the old file04:22
tokenselinium ... any possibility to write on drive?04:22
penguinzdrchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool04:22
odinCould someone help me..going from gentoo to ubuntu wasn't as easy as I thought04:22
obliblucaas, but my card should still work. Here goes nothing. thanks for help.04:22
penguinzdrwhere can i find that XML::Parser?04:22
zenlunaticis us.archive.ubuntu.com down?04:22
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seliniumtoken, there is a app that lets you, but I have never used it.04:23
seliniumale3hs, if you copied the whole line it would of created the backup for you?04:23
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tokenselinium ... ok ... and what about the default setting? can u tell me which to choose for Options?04:23
lucaasoblib, yes, i dont know much :), im currently trying to get another pci card to work together with the geforce 2 one.04:23
odinI added the 'universe' but when I try to apt-get the stuff for mp3 support it complains..04:23
matanikowhy cant i chown/chmod my mounted ntfs directory?04:24
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ale3hsselinium, no i just run the wget04:24
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tokenmataniko: rights?!04:24
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penguinzdrwhere can i find XML::Parser?04:24
tokenmataniko: su04:24
thoreauputicmataniko: because ntfs doesn't support linux permissions04:24
seliniumale3hs, ok, your call. Have you run   sudo apt-get update?04:24
matanikoi can su into it04:24
matanikobut i want to get read permission on my normal user04:24
odin"gstreamer0.8-plugins: Depends: gstreamer0.8-a52dec (>= 0.8.11) but it is not going to be installed04:25
odin"  what does this mean?04:25
thoreauputictoken: no, ntfs doesn't understand chown/ chmod etc04:25
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thoreauputicmataniko: that's done in /etc/fstab04:25
thoreauputic!fstab04:25
tokenthoreauputic: ah ok ... why not?04:25
matanikoya, i edited it04:25
matanikoi'll give it another chance04:25
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mataniko!fstab04:25
seliniumtoken, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       004:25
thoreauputictoken: ask microsoft :)04:25
sffdehi, where can i find Ubuntu 5.10's default sources.list?04:25
tokenthoreauputic: i thought everything in linux is handled as text .. so04:25
tokenthoreauputic: haha :o)))04:26
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tokenselinium: thx04:26
thoreauputictoken: it's a file system issue04:26
ale3hsselinium,  cool ur a savior .. coz I edit the source list bymyself and probably I fk it ;)04:26
tokenthoreauputic: ah ok ...04:26
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seliniumtoken you will need to change the HD to your one.04:26
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thoreauputichmm04:26
thoreauputic!+fstab04:26
ubotufstab is, like, /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.04:26
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seliniumale3hs, No Problem, glad to of helped!04:27
tupahola ?04:27
tokenselinium: what does nls=utf8,umask=0222 mean?04:27
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sffdenobody?04:27
penguinzdrhey guys WTF is that XML::parser?04:27
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thoreauputicI think the first part of that factoid should disappear04:27
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ale3hsselinium, a last question ..I am downloading mplayer.. so how I get the codecs for w media player ??04:27
lotiaany apt-get gurus on?04:27
seliniumtoken, Use google! I know it works!04:27
iamkirkhow do i update my archive manager to support more file types ? such as.deb or .rpm04:27
ale3hsbasicly all the video codecs04:27
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lotiamy machine is in a state of flux.04:28
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tokenselinium: i know too ... but searching and searching .. you know ... ?! :o)))04:28
joftcan anyone help me? since I upgraded to breezy my sound (and nvidia driver) hasn't worked, I just tried the troubleshooting sound thing on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#troubleshooting and it still doesn't work04:28
seliniumale3hs, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:28
lotiaor stuck rather.04:28
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Aratosanyone here know how to connect to the internet using a USB ADSL modem?04:28
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nathanjanyone know how to make a sleep timer for beep-media-player?04:28
seliniumale3hs, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  for all the codecs!04:28
ale3hsthanx selinium04:28
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lotiahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4989 i get an error when updating details on the pastebin04:29
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seliniumale3hs, Sorry ,i didn't realise i had already answered! lol04:29
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penguinzdrplease guys help me with configure of Buoh!04:29
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wickedpuppyBuoh ?04:29
seliniumtotem, put     tutorial fstab   into google.04:29
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penguinzdra comic reader04:29
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wickedpuppyhuh ?04:29
ale3hsselinium, u jokking mplayer has not a front end??04:29
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seliniumale3hs, yes it does?04:30
thoreauputicale3hs: sure it does - gmplayer04:30
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seliniumCHeers thoreauputic :)04:30
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zenlunaticwhy is gxine playing dvds choppy?04:31
gwarkhmmmm this never happened before ::  E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse04:31
cocoxhi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????04:31
cocoxhi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????04:31
gwarkzenlunatic dma settings maybe?04:31
penguinzdrwickedpuppy: i only need to know how can i fix this: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool04:31
thoreauputicnathanj:   sleep 8h && beep-media-player yournoisysong.mp3    ;)04:31
penguinzdrwickedpuppy: whatever.. i finded a ubuntu paxkage04:31
ale3hsgmplayer I cannot find it within the synaptic ...04:31
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zenlunaticgwark: how do i change them?04:31
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zenlunaticokay my mouse keeps freezing for some reason04:32
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thoreauputicale3hs: it comes with the package04:32
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nathanjthoreauputic: hrmm04:32
thoreauputicale3hs: apt-cache search mplayer04:32
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gwarkzenlunatic  i forgot .....   hparm  .. dunno i always copied it from Kaffeine04:32
thoreauputicnathanj: that should work :)04:32
ale3hsthoreauputic, u r rt.. I must be idiot04:32
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graabeinthoreauputic, greetings, what are you reading these days?04:33
matanikowinmac_fstab didn't help, mounting wasn't a problem, accessing the drive not as the root user is the problem04:33
thoreauputicnathanj: although  sleep 8h && mpg321 noisysong.mp3   would be just as easy04:33
zenlunatichow can i unfreeze my mouse?04:33
nathanjthoreauputic: that sleeps before the app opens :P04:33
thoreauputicgraabein: computer monitor screens mostly ;)04:33
graabeinthoreauputic, :) gogol "dead souls" here...04:34
thoreauputicnathanj: isn't that what you want it to do?04:34
seliniumthoreauputic, thanks for that, I now have another way of waking up other linux users! lol04:34
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nathanjthoreauputic: i want the opposit affect :D04:34
thoreauputicnathanj: ah you want to turn it off ?04:34
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cocoxhi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????04:35
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odinErm.  Does anyone have a q&e way to install mp3 support?04:35
seliniumnathanj,  then use sleep 8h && sudo pkill <app>04:35
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thoreauputicnathan_:  sleep 8h && killall beep-media-player  then04:35
Zedmanhello! somebody has an idea of how to use sendmail in mozilla-thunderbird?04:35
seliniumthoreauputic, I won! for once! :)04:35
nathanjselinium: cool :) ta i might look into writing a plugin for beep04:35
thoreauputicselinium: sudo isn't necessary ;P04:35
thoreauputicbut pkill is a good idea :)04:36
seliniumthoreauputic, true.. :)04:36
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chrissturmdoes ubuntu run a smtp server on localhost by default04:36
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nathanjdidnt work :(04:37
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nathanjgot it :D04:37
zenlunaticis there any way to unfreeze the mouse?04:38
dovyds!netbeans04:38
nathanjsleep 10s && pkill beep04:38
ubotudovyds: Do they come in packets of five?04:38
thoreauputicnathan_: right :)04:38
nathanjthanks guys :)04:38
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seliniumzenlunatic, try sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart04:38
seliniumnathanj, np04:38
asdxI can't mount a fat32 floppy04:39
asdxwhy?04:39
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thoreauputicasdx: try changing the file type to vfat in /etc/fstab or do  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/point04:39
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zenlunaticselinium: nope04:40
iamkirkdoes anyone have any idea how to help me04:40
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iamkirki cant open .deb or .rpm04:40
seliniumzenlunatic, what where yuo doing when it froze>04:40
selinium?04:40
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zenlunaticselinium: using cd drive.  every time i use cd drive it freezes04:40
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thoreauputiciamkirk: why do you want to "open" them ? you mean install them?04:40
zenlunaticselinium: like watching dvd or copying a big file from cd04:40
seliniumzenlunatic, with a particular program?04:40
zenlunaticselinium: no with any program04:41
chrissturmis X broken in dapper right now?04:41
iamkirkwell , yes , install them04:41
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dieselIs http://us.archive.ubuntu.com down?  I cannot connect.04:41
thoreauputiciamkirk: generally you don't use rpm - for .deb use "  sudo dpkg -i file.deb "04:41
seliniumiamkirk, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package04:41
asdxtheconartist: I can't tell my users to run cli commands, they want to put the floppy and just see what is there04:41
gwarkzenlunatic     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA04:41
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iamkirki have to install from the terminal window ?04:42
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seliniumiamkirk, if you have downloaded them,yes04:42
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zenlunaticselinium: i can't keep rebooting every time04:42
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thoreauputiciamkirk: you  know about apt and synnaptic and package management right?04:42
zenlunaticselinium: thats the only thing that fixes it04:42
koool5.10 can play 3d games, open GL, new games?04:43
seliniumzenlunatic, type   top   in a term. is there something using all the processor?04:43
thoreauputiciamkirk: it's usually a bad idea to download random debs04:43
ale3hsselinium, is it possibe to giv me again the wget command to download the sources list to save it in case I need it again coz xchat cleared the screen??04:43
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thoreauputiciamkirk: much easier to use synaptic04:43
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zenlunaticselinium: no04:43
matanikoya, ntfs work, umode=0 was what i was missing04:43
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seliniumale3hs, in a term,   sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list      <--  All that04:43
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iamkirki downloaded cedego04:44
iamkirkthats the one im trying to run04:44
thoreauputicbah that was pointless04:44
iamkirkand i have it in .rpm and .deb format04:44
matanikoone more thing, how do i add hebrew support?04:44
XBozzhey, does anybody knows how can i install wmaker here?04:44
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ale3hsthanx selinium04:45
seliniumthoreauputic, Have you got any idea why zenlunatic loses his mouse when usiong his CDROM?04:45
matanikojust text input04:45
seliniumale3hs, NP  :)04:45
thoreauputicselinium: no, sorry04:45
penguinzdrwow BMPx is very cool04:45
thoreauputic!info wmaker04:45
ubotuwmaker: (NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.92.0-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 2220 kB, Installed size: 6104 kB04:45
zenlunaticselinium: im going to reboot and post this to the forums04:45
thoreauputicXBozz: enable universe then sudo apt-get install wmaker04:46
seliniumzenlunatic, sorry, i dont now how to help.. OK good idea? Good luck!04:46
thoreauputicor use synaptic04:46
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XBozzbut, what can i do to enable universe?04:46
thoreauputic!tell XBozz about repos04:46
echylo`look up at the stars!04:47
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echylo`and turn on the brightest one!04:47
stagiairus.archive.ubuntu.com down?04:47
echylo`yes04:47
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thoreauputicXBozz: read the URL ubotu sent you in pm04:47
echylo`us times out here04:47
kooolgyta, 5.10 can play 3d games, open GL or new games?04:47
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XBozzok, tanx all04:48
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onispawnanyone know if us.archive.ubuntu.com having issues?04:48
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stagiaironispawn, it's down04:49
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onispawnstagiair, ok thanks04:49
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Sp4rKyhi04:51
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lajujHappy Thanksgiving - is anyone else having trouble with access universe, main, and other packages?04:51
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john280zhard time at us.archive.ubuntu.com04:52
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stagiairlajuj, john280z: us.archive.ubuntu.com is down04:52
john280zOK, thanks for the info!04:52
Sp4rKyi 've any issue with usb , when i put an usb key or disc , it isn't mounted automatically , anyone have ideas ?04:52
lajujthanks for the info, I was afraid it was me04:52
onispawndoes anyone have any suggestions on applications for dvd authoring?04:53
Sp4rKyonispawn , it exist a good tutorial on web04:53
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miosis there a log that can tell me if an app crashed the system?  besides the "system log" wich is kinda useless04:54
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onispawnSp4rKy: yea I have read the tutorial. I was just wondering if anyone has a application they like better04:54
trat02community_Is there any way to configure 2monitors in GUI way???04:54
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chr1snvDoes anyone know how to get ubuntu to run off an external usb hd i.e. iPod?, i was told that i would need to edit the initrd file04:55
miosi have a tv out script for nvidia04:55
trat02community_ati04:55
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miosyou can modify it04:55
miosohh04:55
miosI had an ATI and never got it to work in tv out or dual04:55
sklavhi guys04:55
trat02community_:(04:56
kooolhow about modify monitor?04:56
zenlunaticI'm trying to get dma working for my one dvd/burner and its saying /dev/hdc: No such file or directory .  How do I know what device is my cdrom?04:56
miosits sucked sooo much that I just went to frys and got me a refurb nvidia04:56
trat02community_yes but it's laptop04:56
miosha!04:56
trat02community_:)04:56
Sp4rKyonispawn , better than kino/dvdauthor ... no04:56
sklavanybody experienc issues with us.archive.ubuntu.com when doing an apt-get update?04:56
chr1snvsame here, i think that there i a grudge between open source guys and nvidia04:56
miosohh buddy04:56
chr1snvi mean ati04:57
onispawnSp4rKy: alright04:57
reikiis flash generally a problem? There's a flash chat app that crashes all browsers here but is fine in windows04:57
arnduckychr1snv, off of an ipod  -- yikes!  (why would you want to n00k your ipod -- it's for playing music, not a true handheld or 'pDA')04:57
miosyeah04:57
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elwoodi need to change from lilo to grub...how can i do this?04:57
miosmaybe that is why my apps are crashing04:57
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Sp4rKyand nobody knows why my usb keys doesn't mount automatically (i'm over openbox)04:57
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thoreauputic* Topic for #ubuntu set by bob2 at Thu Nov 17 18:44:33 2005 Yes us.archive.com is down04:58
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Badm4n`Feel`so`Ehello04:58
chr1snvarnducky, well, its actually more because i am out of hd space and would like to dual boot, also the added benifit of being able to switch btween computers would be cool04:58
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mioshey I'm new here,,, what is Dapper?04:58
sklavthanks for the update thoreauputic04:58
thoreauputicsklav: hah04:59
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chr1snvarnduckey, also, i just got a nano and the battery on the old 3rd gen is basically shot anywayz, so it can only really be used as a hd now04:59
sklav:)04:59
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trat02community_mios: new distro rc in ubuntu04:59
arnduckychr1snv, you can dual boot from the MBR on your active partition by installing LILO, ELILO, GRUB or MBR04:59
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miosthere are tutorials on how to TV out in ATI using the Gastos drivers  or the newer ati  but has to be radeon or better05:00
alley_mhello @all.... after installing ubuntu this day (realy surprised, great work), changing some settings I am a little disappointed with synaptic packetmanager... it often looks for the install-dvd... but I want to download only from internet.. is there a way to change this settings?05:00
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miosahh05:00
miosI see05:00
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Badm4nneed help05:00
Badm4nabout linksys 11 wusb2.405:00
Badm4ni'll paste the error there05:00
miosI think you would have a better chance at two heads than at TVout05:00
sklavcomment out fisrt line in /etc/apt/sources05:00
arnduckyIf you want to boot from removeable media, yoiu can always make a bootable floppy, CD, DVD or CF-disk (the latter assumes your BIOS supports USB boot devices)05:00
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alex__hello, how can i install ftp server?05:01
sklavand then run apt-get update05:01
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=== Badm4n follow the instruction from wiki but i found error
gruntapt-get install proftpd05:01
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chr1snvarnducky, yes but it wouldnt make my ubuntu install portable, and if i were to install on the ipod, it still wouldnt solve the problem of the kernal not being able to load itself off a usb device05:01
arnduckysklav, are the ubuntu repositories back on-line now?05:01
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Sp4rKywhat 's the dpkg option to extract a .deb without install ?05:01
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sklavarnducky, im only aware of us.archive.ubuntu.com being down05:01
alex__ssh say he can't find proftpd package05:02
alley_mthx...05:02
trat02community_I don't realy need tv out just onother LCD(like separate desktop).05:02
arnduckychr1snv, then make a live CD/DVD or get yourself a USB harddrive enclosure05:02
mioswhat you can do is to go to google and look for ATI config.org sample     and you will find a bunch of posted scripts that you can test. print those out and figure out the code.. very easy. It just didn't work on mine. I think its an oddball ATI  Fryes  go figure05:02
onispawnSp4rKy: dpkg -x <package>05:02
arnducky$16 for USB 2.0 to 2.5" ESDI (laptop drives)05:02
miosthat is how I got mine to work on tvout and double head05:02
thoreauputicactually I can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com from here ... can anyone else reach it ?05:02
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: hi, remember me? i was unable to use the synaptic updates. the problem is with some anonymous proxy that i installed on my computer by mistake05:02
Sp4rKyonispawn, thx05:02
=== Badm4n need help about linksys 11 wusb 2.4 .... already follow the instrcution from wiki ubuntu .... but i found error... you can see my error at http://pastebin.com/437207 ASAP ... thx
sklavthoreauputic, i can ping it also05:03
miosbut after I changed to an Nvidia05:03
trat02community_ok I'll try, tnx. Just wondered if there is any gui.05:03
arnduckywith about 1.0A draw off the USB bus05:03
chr1snvarnduckey, and assuming i did get a USB harddrive inclosure, i would still have to find a way to get ubuntu to boot off of it?05:03
sklavjust the apt-get fails always waiting for headers 99%05:03
thoreauputicsklav: ah - but it isn't working for people ? (I'm in .au)05:03
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  that could do it i dont use proxies so i never see things like that05:03
trat02community_Maybe it is time to make one ;)05:03
IRCMonkey999anyone help me with anonymous proxy service on ubuntu05:03
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sklavexactly05:03
onispawnyou can see it, just cant download anything from it05:03
cocoxhi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????05:03
miosThe code is almost the same, exept that on ATI you will different call outs05:03
arnducky~$32 for 5.25"  ATA enclosure (also USB 2.0) but powered by a transformer block05:04
sklavUse Root it recommened ;)05:04
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sklavhehe05:04
alex__sklav  ssh say he can't find proftpd package05:04
onispawnubuntu really needs more mirrors05:04
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: any idea how to remove this proxy thing?05:04
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trat02community_ok I see05:04
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IRCMonkey999anyone please help me with proxies on ubuntu05:04
zenlunaticgwark: hey thanks dma is working and it stopped the skipping05:04
gnomefreakIRCMonkey999,  wish i did sorry05:04
twidgetIs there a way of decreasing the size of the desktop icons?05:04
sklavthanks for the update alex__05:04
arnduckyhotplug with udevfs or proc automounts them in /media/usbdrive05:04
trat02community_I'll try later make some config changes05:04
alex__what sklav05:05
alex__?05:05
gwarkzenlunatic no problems  ;] 05:05
arnduckyor /media/usb#05:05
thoreauputiconispawn: you can remove the us. from your sources to get archve.ubuntu.com or use a different country code05:05
gnomefreakim assuming archives.ubuntu.com still down?05:05
chrissturmgnomefreak: use a mirror05:05
miosif you do Xconfig ...that X configurator thing  from a black screen  non X CLI then you get a better looking Xconfigurator than the Text thing on the normal terminal05:05
alex__what update?05:05
thoreauputicgnomefreak: us archive only afaik05:05
sklav:) you told me ssh cannot find proftpd package05:05
arnduckychr1snv how about that?05:05
alex__jo05:05
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: i dont think any problem with the archives... just some settings on my computer....05:05
sklavand i just said thank you for the update ;)05:05
trat02community_cool05:05
gnomefreakchrissturm,  dont know how05:05
alex__and now?  apt-get update ?05:05
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chrissturmgnomefreak: de.archive.ubuntu.com works05:06
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gnomefreakty brb05:06
IRCMonkey999gnomefreak: while installing java run time Environment this thing came up asking me do you want to install a anonymous proxy05:06
sklavca.archive.ubuntu.com didnt work when i tried it05:06
chrissturmgnomefreaK. do you know how to edit sources.list?05:06
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sklavi will try it again05:06
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IRCMonkey999and i said yes.... and thats when all the trouble started....05:06
reikican someone go to www.cpaptalk.com and click on the chat link? Apparently flashchat is crashing my browser and I'd like to see if it's MY setup or a problem with the app. It works in windows fine05:06
gnomefreakyes chrissturm05:06
chr1snvarnducky, uhh? so you are saying that if i simply attach a usb drive with an install on it it will work?05:07
alley_mok... one problem, then I will be satiesfied for today *smile... within gnome-desktop u are able to detect new usb-devices (like hdd ), is it possible to have the same feature into xfce4? (just plug-in and a new icon appears like inside gnome)?05:07
reikithe link is right below the main logo where it says 0chatting live05:07
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Stormx2is a symlink of a folder considered a file or a folder/05:07
Stormx2?05:07
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alex__ca.archive.ubuntu.com dons'T worl05:08
reikiStormx2, it's considered a symlink05:08
thoreauputicStormx2: it's a file05:08
alex__*work*05:08
arnduckychr1snv, of course not -- the drive has to be marked bootable and have boot code in sector 1 just like any other boot device.  The point is that grub will be able to see it to make it bootable on just about any modern Linux system.05:08
idiotI have this program I cannot close "wine-systray" and when I try to killall it, it doesn't work because I don't know the name of it nor the proc ID.. =/, and there is no "X", I use gnome.05:08
thoreauputicStormx2: ie you can rm it for example05:08
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sklavok north america is out05:08
Stormx2thoreauputic: Cheers05:08
sklavhehe05:08
twidgetIs there a way of decreasing the size of the desktop icons?05:09
alex__sklav,  have you reading?05:09
thoreauputicsklav: wow - I've been waiting for that for years ;P05:09
sklavhehe05:09
arnduckyAnd as I said, it can only work with a system that supports booting from USB devices (unless you make a bootstrap CD, floppy or DVD also and they would have to be supported then too)05:09
sklavsounds crazy05:09
chr1snvarnducky, right, well ive tryed it and grub works fine, but the problem is that when the kernel trys to load itself, it hasnt loaded the drivers for scisi emulation yet, and cant see the root partition cuz its on a usb drive05:09
sklavim going to write an /. article05:10
idiotI have this process running and I cannot close it nor find it in the running processes..05:10
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=== Badm4n need help about linksys 11 wusb 2.4 .... already follow the instrcution from wiki.ubuntu.com/Linksys_WUSB11 .... but i found error... you can see my error at http://pastebin.com/437207 ASAP ... thx ... ( ps : using ubuntu 5.10 )
psusiwhen I ask synaptic to upgrade libpt-plugins-alsa, it says it is going to REMOVE several packages, including ubuntu-desktop... why on earth would it do this?05:10
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alex__hmm *nohelp* :(05:10
_darius__us.archive.ubuntu.com down?05:10
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alley_mhm... nobody inside to give at least a hint to usb-mount for xfce4?05:10
sklavUbuntu down for all of North America ...people are jumping out of windows. Cities are collapsing under the pressure...read more....at /.05:10
arnduckywell, you need to have the correct drivers in the kernel heh -- you can only put so much in your device's bootsector (up to 64K if you use very large clusters AFAIK)05:11
chr1snvidiot, did you try running (sudo ps -e) ?05:11
gnomefreakchrissturm,  de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/main and the restricted give me a could not resolve 'dists' error05:11
idiotyea05:11
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idiotchrlsnv i cannot find the task, its called "Wine-systray"05:11
idiotbut its not in there.05:11
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reikiwhat is the off topic channel please? I want to see if I can get this flash app thing straightened out05:11
arnduckySo that's why you would make a live CD with a full kernel including scsi usb emulation api (I thought it was built in but really don't know).05:12
gnomefreakreiki, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC05:12
gnomefreaksorry for the caps05:12
reikignomefreak, that was almost too easy, huh?  hehehe.. thanks05:12
thoreauputic au.archive.ubuntu.com  seems OK05:12
gnomefreaklol05:12
chr1snvidiot, ah lol well in that case i have no ideas im here for help too lol05:12
chrissturmgnomefreak, this is my sources.list line: "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"05:12
Pegasos989I have a question concering the built in bit torrent client of ubuntu. Is the "time left" it shos really fucked up or does it just generally suck? I look at a download and it says "1hour, 4 mins left". I go and eat something and come back. It says "1 hour 2 mins left". It has made progress and the speed is nearly twice the one that was there before, but the time left barely changes05:12
psusiarnducky, the boot sector is allways one sector... which is 512 bytes... clusters have nothing to do with it05:12
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chrissturmgnomefreak, should also work for breezy :)05:12
miosdudes  I cannot run any app05:13
iamkirkguys , im really new to linux and have no effing clue how to open cedega05:13
fredforfaen!backports05:13
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.05:13
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arnduckychr1snv, there used to be a site called 'Roll Your Own Kernel'  -- maybe you want to look them up05:13
miosnot even a terminal05:13
=== Badm4n need help about linksys 11 wusb 2.4 .... already follow the instrcution from wiki.ubuntu.com/Linksys_WUSB11 .... but i found error... you can see my error at http://pastebin.com/437207 ASAP ... thx ... ( ps : using ubuntu 5.10 )
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chrissturmgnomefreak, but be sure to replace "dapper" with "breezy"05:13
chr1snvok, i will05:13
arnduckypsusi, I thought that you could fill up the first cluster too05:13
psusiPegasos989, I think it just generally sucks... I use bit tornado05:13
miosI got xchat and stream tuner open and thats it05:13
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arnduckyand I thought that you could use 3*512 B05:14
alex__can someone german05:14
robotgeekBadm4n: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)05:14
thoreauputic!de05:14
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe05:14
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psusiarnducky, clusters are a thing of filesystems... the MBR exists outside of a filesystem05:14
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iamkirkcould someone pm me and give me some newb help...  i am ridiculously new to linux05:14
doudouhi05:14
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chr1snvarnducky, i still would much rather have it run directly off my old ipod, just wondering, do you know how i could mount and edit the initrd file?05:14
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Badm4nrobotgeek : may i know what that for ?05:14
onispawnnice. I didnt know xmission was hosting a mirror for ubuntu05:14
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robotgeekBadm4n: you don't have kernel headers for compilation05:15
arnduckypsusi, yes, I know but CHS is still a way to designate a physical location05:15
doudoucan someone give a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:15
Badm4noh i c05:15
thoreauputiciamkirk: cedega is kind of off-topic here - you should get support from the people who sold it to you : you*did* buy it, right ?05:15
Badm4nonly that the problem ?05:15
idiotwhats that application that you can run and it brings up an X and you click something and it kills it05:15
gnomefreakiamkirk,  please ask your question in the room that way more than one person can help if that one person doesnt know05:15
psusiarnducky, though usually for some antiquated reason, partiioning tools want to align partitions to cylinder bounderies... which means that there is usually up to 8 megs of unused sectors before the first partition starts05:15
RenskiWhat should I use to read a .dvi file?05:15
arn#105:15
psusiarnducky, so that leaves some extra space boot loaders can use05:15
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doudouanyone can help me ?05:16
arnduckyyeah, you get all kinds of tiny little 'partitions' when yo resize disks that only show up with tools that do a raw read and look at the edges of CHS boundaries05:16
arnduckylike 0.007 MB -- heh05:16
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psusiarnducky, windows usually  just aligns the start of the partition to a head boundery resulting it the partition starting on sector 63... so the boot loader can use the spare sectors 1-62 if it can't entirely fit in sector 005:16
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Badm4nrobotgeek : may i private u ?05:17
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idiotbrb05:17
psusiwindows usually aligns the END of the partition on a cylinder boundery though, which is why you usually get up to 8 megs of free space at the end that it wont let you use05:17
doudouhello ?05:17
twidgetIs there a way of decreasing the size of the desktop icons?05:17
arnduckypsusi, so if you have 1K blocks, then...05:17
doudoucan someone help me ?05:17
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twidgetI suppose I'll keep asking until someone helps05:18
psusisectors are allways 512 bytes05:18
arnducky(about 64 KBytes -- get it?)05:18
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psusiwe're talking sectors here... clusters are only a construct inside filesystems05:18
doudoucan someone give a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:18
doudoucan someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:18
psusiwhat goes on inside the partition.... I'm tlaking about what goes on outside partitions05:18
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Badm4nrobotgeek : is kernel header exist in my CD ? cause i dont have internet connection lol05:19
pepperpotI'm trying to install ubuntu onto an existing ext3 partition, but when i choose "install base" it keeps bringing me back to the partitioner.05:19
thoreauputictwidget: I'm not aware of a way to resize desktop icons in gnome05:19
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twidgetthoreauputic, thank you05:20
Slackwisethomhash: Right click an icon on the desktop, select "Stretch icon" ?05:20
Slackwiseerrr05:20
Slackwisethoreauputic:05:20
thoreauputicSlackwise: is that possible ? i can't check as I'm in fluxbox05:20
doudoucan someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:20
arnduckypsusi, hmm... perhaps you can explain some issues I've had when trying to shrink partitions with parted and sfdisk, then05:20
Slackwisethoreauputic: I am currently in GMOME 2.12, so it should be fine in Ubuntu.05:21
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thoreauputicSlackwise: hmm interesting thanks05:21
Slackwisethoreauputic: No problem. :P05:21
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arnduckyAnd BTW, doesn't the MBR extend to up to three 512B sectors now?05:21
doudoucan someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:21
psusiarnducky, I have not used parted... it wouldn't work for me so I had to use ntfsresize and fdisk directly05:21
kooolis there a way too see the NVidia video card settings like Temperature & Overclocking?05:22
tgnbdo i need to download the 5.10 install cd to upgrade to it? or can i upgrade over the internet kind of like gentoo?05:22
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thoreauputic!breezy05:22
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:22
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thoreauputictgnb: see that URL05:22
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tgnbthanks05:22
psusiarnducky, no... the MBR is sector 0.... but like I said before... partitioning tools usually end up leaving at least a few unused sectors between the MBR and the first partition... so boot loaders can use that space05:22
thoreauputictgnb: and the answer is yes05:22
psusiarnducky, grub's stage 1 loader fits entirely in the MBR05:22
thoreauputicie you can use the net05:23
doudoucan someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:23
psusiarnducky, but if you want, you can install the optional stage 1.5 loader in the free space after the MBR05:23
vbgunzI've had a real bad problem with Breezy. I hope someone can shine some light on it. For some reason when I get back from leaving the PC running with a screensaver... I don't have a mouse pointer... I cannot use my mouse for anything... I have to restart gdm *but* hate to do this... Anyone know what this problem is?05:23
kooolGuys is there a way too see the NVidia video card settings like Temperature & Overclocking? :)05:23
doudoucan someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?05:24
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vbgunzanybody here know what the problem is?05:24
thoreauputickoool: possibly lmsensors - but that may only be for cpu, mother board etc (not sure)05:24
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gruntlm-sensors not for graphics...05:24
arnduckypsusi, that's what I've done too but WInblows couldn't read the partition afterwars -- I would have needed to use an advanced disk utility to get the data back, so I just retored from an image and used Partition Magic(tm) to resize.  I was 'heartbroken' that parted and ntfsresize didn't live up to the latest hype about them.05:24
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thoreauputickoool: erm ... lm-sensors that should be05:25
kooolin FC4 I've been able to see via the window of the NVidia settings05:25
thoreauputicgrunt: OK thanks05:25
kooolwondering if there's a similar way05:25
Red-Soxis there a window manager that looks like tiger?05:25
psusiarnducky, you used ntfsresize and fdisk, or parted?  if you use fdisk, when you recreate the partition, you have to put fdisk into sector mode instead of cylinder mode05:25
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doudouCAN someone please see my problem ?05:26
pepperpothow should I back up my system before reinstalling ubuntu?05:26
pepperpoti give up on installing over my existing partition :/05:26
psusiotherwise it tries to create the partition starting on cylinder 1, but windows made it starting at sector 6305:26
thoreauputicdoudou: loos like no one has the answer05:26
psusiI made that mistake, then realized what I did, booted from a livecd, and fixed it05:26
arnducky psusi have you ever used the make-a-50MB-hidden-part'n-at-the-beggining-of-the-first-physical-disk trick?05:26
thoreauputicdoudou: at least at the moment05:26
arnduckypsusi, I tried it both ways05:26
psusiarnducky, no05:26
psusiwhat trick is that?05:26
doudouthoreauputic : ok, then, thanks anyway ! :)05:27
psusiarnducky, you gave fdisk the u command and recreated the partition starting at sector 63?05:27
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vbgunzanybody know why my mouse pointer disappears and I cannot use the mouse after leaving the PC on for a while? Please this problem is the most annoying problem to date... Is there a way to restart the mouse or something without having to restart GDM? Please, any help is appreciated!05:27
Sp4rKyDoes it exist a chan for openbox ?05:27
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arnduckyFrom the old ldp.org howto on multiboot (written in 2000 I think)  They recommend making a small partion at the  beginning of bus0;disk0;part'n:0 -- but I've never been able to trick ntldr that way05:28
timmdhi all05:28
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psusiarnducky, why would they recommend that?05:29
arnduckypsusi, no -- that msut have been why it failed05:29
pepperpotshould I use "cp -a /mnt/old /mnt/new/backup" to backup my current ubuntu installation?05:29
thoreauputicSp4rKy: just tried #openbox but that doesn't seem to exist05:29
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Sp4rKythoreauputic, no  it join  ##unaiviable05:29
psusiarnducky, ok... yea... I screwed it up like that too, but fixed it easily... I don't have and would not use partition magic... i don't trust that stuff further than I can throw it05:29
thoreauputicSp4rKy: right05:29
Red-Soxis there mario kart for linux?05:30
Sp4rKytu kart05:30
Red-Soxtu kart?05:30
Sp4rKytux kart *05:30
Red-Soxo05:30
arnduckypsusi, most distro were still using LILO, not GRUB and  I think that may have had something to do with it.  It's been ages since I've looked at that Howto tough, so I'd need to refresh my memory.05:30
gnomefreaktux kart05:30
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psusithe other day I decided to shrink my ntfs partition down some more and use the free space for a test partition... did it all on the fly... hehe05:30
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feclol thats for super nintendo05:30
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Red-Soxfec: and n64 and gamecube05:30
psusiarnducky, maybe they were saying you should make a 50 meg partition under the 8 gig limit for /boot?05:31
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DiTz_Hi guys!05:31
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reikican someone with a working flash installation in their browser, please try www.cpaptalk.com/chat/flashchat.php and tell me if it crashes your browser in Ubuntu? It works in windows but crashes in Ubuntu here. Trying to see if I have messed up something in firefox and epiphany05:31
fecRed-Sox, u right, the last console i bought is SNES05:31
DiTz_I have some problems installing ubuntu05:31
DiTz_may someone help me??05:32
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ubuntuyowww05:32
ubuntuae pessoal05:32
ubuntu;] 05:32
gnomefreakDiTz_,  what kind of problems?05:32
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Red-SoxDiTz_, yes05:32
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arnduckypsusi, it has a bunch of script wizards jsut to guide newbies through multi-booting with other, especially Linux.  For that reason, and because even though it is still proprietary, Symantec has improved some of the license term, and becasue it's now only $30 and  I was under a deadline, I chose to purchase it via download from their webstore.05:33
wyonai just installed ubuntu and i want to change my bootloader config, where can i find grub.conf ?05:33
DiTz_i am newbie, i installed ubuntu, and now after loading it come with a white screen05:33
Syrusslinux is better when you don't use windows near it05:33
ubuntuwere are you scooby-doo ? ;X05:33
arnduckyThe old License before the bouhgt out PowerQuest was just insane.05:33
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thoreauputicreiki: crashes here immediately05:33
RenskiCan someone link me with instructions on how to update my sources to update hoary to breezy?05:33
Red-Soxever since the kernel update, apt-get doesnt work05:33
ubuntuthe books on the table05:33
ubuntutable table05:33
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ubuntu;X05:34
psusiarnducky, have you looked at gparted?05:34
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psusiarnducky, it looks like it's just as nice or better than partition magic05:34
reikithoreauputic, thanks... is flash known to be difficult in Ubuntu? If so I'll simply not bother with this05:34
wyonadpkg-query -L grub shows no config file for grub, does the installer write is config file somwhere ?05:34
zenlunaticI added the lines to /etc/hdparm.conf to have dma enabled on every boot but its not working.05:34
psusiit doesn't work for me though.. doesn't understand my hardware fakeraid05:34
bezibaerchenwyona: what do u want to change? default boot or boot menu itself?05:34
thoreauputicreiki: it works OK for me on most sites05:34
arnduckySyruss, my multiboot systems are better becasue they have Linux -- Aegis just found about forty infected files on windows partitions -- that no online scanner made especially for M$ Windows could find.05:34
wyonaremove some unused entries05:34
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Happufreiki: works with my 64bit system too.05:35
bezibaerchensudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst05:35
bezibaerchenwyona: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst05:35
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thoreauputicreiki: I have the non-free plugin (the one you grab when ff prompts you)05:35
reikithoreauputic, same here. Just that one app so far. Odd that it works in windows fine.05:35
thoreauputicreiki: usually works OK05:35
psusiarnducky, cool05:35
wyonais this file not part of the "grub" package so dpkg-query -L grub should show it ?05:35
arnduckyOther than that, I don't mount ext3 ever under doze so it';s always my 'fall-back' os if the *#%ing Evil Empire gak get's b0rked05:35
gnomefreakhot damn de.archive.ubuntu works :)05:35
reikithoreauputic, I tried this app with the mozilla-flashplayer and then also with the plugin... still crashes05:35
thoreauputicreiki: something weird on the site ? Dunno05:35
transgressis us.archive having problems?05:36
navaroneI just booted and have updates <iptables and xkeyboard file> however they fail authentication from repo...is it safe to install?05:36
gnomefreaktransgress,  yes its down05:36
thoreauputictransgress: /topic05:36
zenlunaticHow do you get dma to enable on every boot?05:36
transgressk05:36
transgressoh05:36
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arnduckyI usually tell Disk Manager not to touch my Ext3, ReiserFS and what have you.05:36
vbgunzanyone know how to restart a mouse>?05:36
thoreauputiczenlunatic: /etc/hdparm.conf IIRC05:36
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zenlunaticthoreauputic: yeah i did that as wiki says but its not working05:36
gnomefreakthoreauputic,  ty for adding that to the topic i didnt see it before05:37
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psusinow... why the hell does synaptic want to remove gnomemeeting, ubuntu-desktop, and others when I try to upgrade libpt-plugins-alsa?05:37
thoreauputiczenlunatic: you can use commands in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh (but it's deprecated)05:37
onispawnwhile everyone is talking about grub, has anyone succesfully gotten it to display a splash image, by adding splashimage=(hdx,y)/filename to the menu.lst file?05:37
vbgunzanyone have any idea about how to restart the mouse?05:37
reikithoreauputic, ok I just went to the flashchat web site and v4.1.2 appears to work fine. So could be just a weirdness on that one site05:37
thoreauputicgnomefreak: took me two goes to get it right *grin*05:37
reikithoreauputic, thanks for the help... appreciated05:38
gnomefreakonispawn,  hell i cant even get redhat and ubuntu to duel boot using to hds05:38
thoreauputicreiki: right05:38
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gnomefreak:)05:38
thoreauputicreiki: you're welcome05:38
zenlunaticthoreauputic: i ran that and it didn't do anything05:38
cocoxhi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????05:38
onispawnhaha.05:38
wyonathanks !!05:38
arnduckyAnd if I could just manage to repeat what the gatos and/or DRI users that have managed to get video capture working, I'd dump WinDOH!s completely.  All my other hardware and applications are supported of replaced by same/better functionality now.05:38
teleyinexsomeone knows how can i change the default apps that uses firefox to open for example pdf files?05:38
chr1snvHow in the world do i mount ubuntu's initrd image?!?!?!, it will not work at all05:38
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thoreauputiczenlunatic: then I'm running out of ideas - Works For Me (tm)05:38
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teleyinexbecause gnome, always open them with evince, but firefox always with xpdf05:38
teleyinexhow can i change that05:38
arnducky(except of course for customer support)05:38
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zenlunaticthoreauputic: what is that script supposed to do?05:39
psusichr1snv, why do you want to?  it isn't actually an initrd image... it's an initramfs, which is a cpio archive05:39
Happufcocox: that depends.. Mostly you should use normal for security reasons.05:39
thoreauputiczenlunatic: it's a start up script for "miscellaneous" things you want to start on boot05:39
arnduckypsusi, when you shrink the FS inside a part'n what actually happens?05:39
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chr1snvpsusi, well its beacuse i want to run ubuntu off an external drive.....05:40
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thoreauputiczenlunatic: you can add stuff to it at the end, before the exit05:40
Maydaywhere do i put arguments to modules that autoload on boot (breezy) ?05:40
zenlunaticthoreauputic: i figured it out05:40
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zenlunaticthoreauputic: had /dev/hdc instead of /dev/cdrom05:40
psusiarnducky, ntfsresize just moves any files that need moved so that the end of the partition is all free space... then patches the cluster bitmap and other filesystem metadata so that it does not think that space is part of the filesystem anymore05:41
cocoxHappuf, but when i use the normal shell this ask me for my password just once for more less 15 minutes so.. whats the point ???05:41
jofthey I have a problem, since i updated to breezy my menus have been a little messed up; when I right click on an audio file and go to "open with" xmms is listed twice. also, the right-click-on-desktop menu no longer has the terminal launcher option in it. and my boot splash stopped working05:41
thoreauputiczenlunatic: ah well it has to point at the right device of course :)05:41
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thoreauputic!openterm05:41
ubotuTo add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package05:42
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arnduckyI think my problem is that I was too paranoid due to my lack of skill to mess with CHS values.   I jsut deleted the partition and specified the new starting at the beginning of the new free space using a size in MB.  I was scared to screw up with CHS values and make the partition smaller than the shrunken FS.05:42
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strokeyHi guys, i've been reading the tutorials on ndiswrapper, but its all confusing :( . Can anyone here PM me and sort of..help me? ubuntu isent installed either, im scared of it :_: . thanks05:42
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thoreauputicstrokey: I would install ubuntu first - we can't help much without a running system :)05:43
seliniumstrokey, why are you looking at ndiswrapper, if you haven't install unbuntu? :)05:43
joftthoreauputic: do I have to refresh the menus after that?05:43
arnduckypsusi, it has to totally rewrite the $mft and backup $mfts to do that, doesn't it?05:43
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Happufcocox: i didnt get you... So you are using normal terminal and comparing it to root terminal?05:43
ilba7ranyone using cups-pdf05:43
thoreauputicjoft: from memory it just appears - otherwise do "killall nautilus"05:43
strokeyselinium: because last time i installed ubuntu, i lost my windows, and i cant get the internet on ubuntu with wirless, and someone pointed to me ndiswrapper05:43
thoreauputicjoft: that will re spawn it05:43
joftcool thanks05:43
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arnduckystrokey, there are some really good ndiswrapper howtos posted to forum websites.  Are you using one of them?05:44
cocoxHappuf, more less.. im just triying to realizae why use the normal shell if i must puta my sudo pass anyway05:44
psusiarnducky, ntfsresize tells you the size of the new filesystem in bytes iirc... divide by 512 and that's how many sectors long it is... add that to the starting sector of the partition and that's where it should end05:44
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joftanything about menu options being listed twice, or bootsplash stopping working?05:44
strokeyarnducky: i was using the wiki thing, im a complete noob to "compling" and linux05:44
seliniumstrokey, so you have only got wireless at the mo? Asking for install purposes...05:44
ilba7rhas the problem with cups-pdf wanting to run as root been solved?05:44
psusiarnducky, it might have to move the backup mft... not sure... but I don't think it has to do anything to the main mft05:44
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thoreauputicjoft: the bootsplash you might fix with   sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)05:45
Happufcocox: you should not... Atleast i dont have to but it...05:45
GodAlright I need some more help with OpenGL05:45
jofti tried that, it says "Searching for boot splash...none found"05:45
strokeyselinium: yea, i cant really haev any other option, im broke, my router is 4 floors down and i cant afofrd anything else ;o05:45
GodBecause nobody was a big help at all last night05:45
arnduckypsusi, well, the geometry of all my disks is reported differently than what it actually is to get past the ATA addressing problem at 1023 logical cylinder (or 'track') limit.05:45
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Red-Sox_awayis tux cart in the repositories05:45
Happufcocox: can you do root stuff with normal terminal?05:45
arnduckyWhy can't all FS have Inodes -- heh05:45
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seliniumstrokey, ok, i am not the person to help, i have never needed to install ndiswrapper. And as you need a internet connection to update the ISO package.... Have you only got the on PC?05:46
thoreauputicjoft: yes it said that here too - but the bootsplash appeared on reboot (go figure) ;P05:46
onispawnfind / -name grub.conf05:46
cocoxHappuf, no i cant but i mean ... the normal terminal ask me for me root pass just once... after i must use sudo, isnt it ?05:46
joftoh05:47
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seliniumstrokey,   s/on/one05:47
strokeyeh?05:47
simonvalloreHow do i get the java runtimes for mozilla firefox it keeps saying you need to manually install them05:47
onispawnoops. sorry. wrong console05:47
joftis there any way to get nvidia drivers working without commenting out the dri and glx modules?05:47
cocoxHappuf, so whats the point if with the root terminal i can do the same05:47
thoreauputiconispawn: you want /boot/grub/menu.lst05:47
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Happufcocox: It should not ask if you dont write sudo in it, but if you write it ask for every sudo command.05:47
thoreauputiconispawn: grub.conf is a Redhatism :)05:48
psusiarnducky, the disk itself does not actually have geometry at all in the chs sense... it's all a lie ;)05:48
arnduckyso if your partition starts with Sector 0 (1st sect on the disk), you just take that info from the ntfsresize output?  (Sheesh -- I wish I had realized that before -- I was using the  raw number of blocks/cluster or the size in MB and trying to work backwards to virtual geometry)05:48
navaronesimonvallore> go to system addministration/add applications and go to internet section/more programs...checka nd install the Blackdown Java package05:48
onispawnthoreauputic: yea I thought so, but I thought I would just check to see if it exists05:48
thoreauputic:)05:48
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psusiarnducky, but yea... the fake CHS for my disk is 63 cylinders, 255 heads, 9001 cylinders05:48
cocoxHappuf, that what im saying!!! the terminal just ask me when i write sudo for first time... after that i just put sudo and dont ask me for a pass05:48
thoreauputic!tell simonvallore about java05:49
GodIs anyone going to help God?05:49
onispawnhaving xmission as a mirror for ubuntu is so nice.. I can download so fast :)05:49
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psusiarnducky, it isn't going to start at 0... 0 is the MBR...05:49
arnduckypsusi, I thought it did -- a cylinder goes through all the disks from top side of top platter down to the bottom side of the bottom platter; ec05:49
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thoreauputicGod: I suggest changing your nick - a lot of people will find it offensive05:49
naliothcocox: you have a 15 minute window while sudo keeps your password05:49
arnduckyThat's what confuses the hell out of me and I have an A+ text right here which doesn't even explain it.05:49
psusiarnducky, no need to worry about all the geometry crap really... just use absolute sector numbers...05:49
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Godthoreauputic:  I haven't found one person who finds it offensive yet. Do you?05:49
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thoreauputicGod: that isn't the question05:50
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strokeyselinium: im not sure what you mean, i only have 1 pc and its on wireless, what do you mean by s/on/one ?05:50
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navaronethoreau> I don't find it offensive...but I think God has some explaining to do w/ how he runs things down here...,s>05:50
Godthoreauputic:  There is this little thing called the first amendment that allows me to speak as a free person and practice any religion I want.05:50
seliniumstrokey, sorry, geek speak,   s =substitute  on for one05:50
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cocoxnalioth, yea i read that either... but so.. what is the point isnt it ? i can have my root terminal open for 15 minutes either and would be the same05:50
arnduckyGod, why don't you change the capitalization.  I for one *do* find your nickname offensive (as I'm sure Allah does as well).05:50
psusiarnducky, modern disks have variable geometry.... the outer tracks tend to have more sectors... they do all kinds of weird stuff, so they just lie about the geometry they report to the computer... and the bios usually lies on top of that.. and linux doesn't give a shit about geometry ;)05:50
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LinuxN00biehello ppl can anybody plz tell me how to run a java program with the extension jar?05:51
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LinuxN00bieit said it couldn't find the classes05:51
Seveas*sigh* offtopic discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic please05:51
mosheis there an eta on the return of us.archive.ubuntu.com?05:51
onispawnLinuxN00bie: java -jar <program name>05:51
strokeyselinium: im still not sure what you mean ;o05:51
Seveasgod, what was your problem?05:51
thoreauputicGod: it might have escaped your notice that US laws do not apply internationally05:51
LinuxN00bieonispawn thx05:51
godI try to get some help with OpenGL and people bitch about me.05:51
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arnduckypsusi, well my A+ text does date back to the advent of Pentium -- heh05:51
Seveasgod, be a bit more specific please05:51
navaroneLinuxNoobie> try cd to directory with jar file and try $java -jar <filename>.jar05:52
godSeveas:  Well, I can't find anything to install it.05:52
SeveasI have not yet seen you ask a question (i just arrived)05:52
Happufcocox: no clue why it is so :D Quite strange i think :D05:52
psusiarnducky, even then this was true05:52
LinuxN00biehmm ok05:52
onispawnhaha.. I wonder why they do that.05:52
seliniumstrokey, I made a spelling mistake in the previous post I was saying to substitute 'on' with 'one'   s/on/one  :)05:52
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Seveasgod, you want to compile opengl applications?05:52
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psusiarnducky, basically geometry has been meaningless since the industry moved from RLL and MFM disks to IDE05:52
arnduckypsusi, remember how a 1.44 Million Byte floppy was formatted?05:52
godSeveas:  I need the OpenGL Library.05:52
Nermalgod: join #opengl ?05:52
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psusiarnducky, I've managed to cram 1920 KB on a floppy ;)05:53
arnduckypsusi, actually the text talked about absoulte CHS values for disks under 500 MB -- hahaha05:53
Seveasgod, apt-cache search libgl | grep dev05:53
godSeveas:  I know how to compile them with g++ and everything.I just don't have the library.05:53
onispawnI think its nice that god uses ubuntu05:53
Seveasgod you need a libgl-*something*-dev package05:53
strokeyselinium: er, ok , yes i only have one pc ;o05:53
arnduckypsusi, without altering the firmware to make the head move in finer increments?05:53
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SeveasI'm not sure what the *something* is, but apt-cache will help :)05:53
seliniumstrokey, As you only have one connection to the net and it is wireless, I would talk to someone who really knows ndiswrapper.05:53
navaroneonispawn> ubuntu and God have similar philosopht to people I would think05:53
cocoxHappuf, lol yea.. i think the same thnx ;)05:53
arnduckyoh -- you said 1920 -- nm05:54
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godSeveas:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d499605:54
Happufcocox: :)05:54
Seveasnavarone, off-topic discussions elsewhere05:54
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navaroneSeveas> was just makinga  comment05:54
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godlibgl1-mesa-dev?05:54
arnduckyyou can actually get over 38 hundred on `em05:54
psusiarnducky, floppies are usually formatted in such a way that there is a fair amoutn of wasted space... you can reformat them such that they have a different geometry that can use that wasted space05:54
strokeyanyone here experiances with ndiswraper? ><05:54
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seliniumSeveas, any chance of getting your JRE update?05:54
Seveasgod, sudo apt-get update (some files are missing locally)05:54
cocoxcan anybody tell me what is the point of use sudo if this keeps your root pass by 15 minutes ???05:55
Seveasand yes libgl1-mesa-dev is what you need05:55
arnduckyyeahj -- the sectors are literal geometric sectors that get much bigger towards the rim05:55
Seveasselinium, sure05:55
godSeveas:  That's kinda weird. I ran an update like yesterday.05:55
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: can we format floppy as we could with Atari, I mean with 11 sectors, 83 tracks ? :)05:55
arnduckyand only 40/80 a side05:55
naliothcocox: for your convenience, you can change the time in the settings, if you wish05:55
Seveasgod, sometimes these files get lost when the connection is flaky (known bug - fixed in the dev. release)05:55
godSeveas:  Why does everyone use sudo? you think god would use sudo? no way. I totally go with root.05:55
arnduckyKzar[dot] net, Linux will rawwrie a floppy however you want -- the only limit is your hardware05:55
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Seveasgod, unless someone says he uses a root account I assume sudo :)05:55
arnduckyerr 'raw-write' that is05:55
godSeveas:  I decided not to log into IRC as root. =D05:56
Seveas:)05:56
godSeveas:  Rather, get the same effect with a different name.05:56
cocoxnalioth, jaja allright you must hate me for asking the same ;) okok thnx05:56
Kzar[dot] netarnducky: does a PC floppy controler handle it too ?05:56
arnduckyBTW, god thatnks for changing you nickame.  Very polite and accomodating of you and may G-d bless you for it.05:56
psusino... the disk still only has 80 tracks... sometimes you can get 81 or 82 if you push it05:56
psusidepending on the disk and the drive05:56
godarnducky:  I'm for the people. I guess.05:56
arnduckyKzar[dot] net, does a floppy controller handle what?05:57
godI really hate people. Theyre idiots.05:57
NermalI really hate god, but there we go05:57
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: of course but 11 sectors by track depends on controler or not ?05:57
godSeveas:  It came up with a similar error on the apt-get update05:57
Seveasgod, please observe the CoC in here05:57
arnduckyshhh... idiot might read that and get upset...05:57
arnduckyLOL05:57
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Kzar[dot] netarnducky: handle more than 9 sectors by track05:57
Seveas*sigh* i'm tired of this nonsense05:57
Nermalmeh05:57
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psusiKzar[dot] net, the number of sectors per track depends on how you formatted the media05:57
godSeveas:  The CoC?05:57
navaroneSeveas> is there a page available that shows status of regional repos...ie US, CA etc. I am having probs getting update from ca.archive repo...?05:57
thoreauputic!coc05:58
Seveasnavarone, not that I know of05:58
ubotucoc is, like, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/05:58
Nermalcode of conduct05:58
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: ok, I have to give a try ;05:58
naliothubotu: tell god about coc05:58
tritiumGood morning!05:58
Nermalthey love it05:58
psusiusually floppies have 18 sectors per track... of 512 bytes each05:58
naliothtritium: howdy05:58
Nermallo tritium05:58
psusibut that leaves some unused space on the track05:58
godSeveas:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d499705:58
tritiumhi nalioth, Nermal05:58
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: 9 sector by track by side, 2 sides :)05:58
psusiyou can format the disk instead to use variable sector sizes05:58
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psusino... 18 sectors per track... 2 sides05:59
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: oops, for 1'44 floppies.05:59
psusiaye...05:59
Seveasgod, ah right... {us,ca}.archive.ubuntu.com is down *again*05:59
Seveasyou'd better switch to archive.ubuntu.com05:59
navaroneSeveas> thanks...bummer05:59
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: I was thinking of good'ild 720k floppies :)05:59
godSeveas:  ...How do I switch...?05:59
ionte... and there it goes again; system unresponsive. due to vmware this time ...05:59
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naliothubotu: tell god about repos06:00
Kzar[dot] netionte: I don't use vmware since I have discover Freenx06:00
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markumanwtf!!! http://pastebin.com/43724006:00
naliothgod: check your priv msg06:00
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psusirather than 18 512 byte sectors, you can format the media with a few various sized sectors... I forget the exact patern...06:00
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psusiI think one was 4k, then a few of smaller sizes06:00
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Seveasgod: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list06:00
godnalioth:  Yeah...Why did you send me the CoC though?06:00
naliothgod: so you could read it at your leisure06:01
ionteKzar[dot] net, oh? never heard of that. is it up to par with vmware? cause even vmware is too slow on my hardware to be really useful ...06:01
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onispawnhaha06:01
Seveasfreenx and vmware are completely different things06:01
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Kzar[dot] netionte: Freenx is speeder than VMware.06:01
godSeveas:  It worked..but it said "Duplicate sources.list entry"06:01
Seveasfreenx is sort-of vnc06:01
ionteKzar[dot] net, still, the problem is that i don't have these freeze-due-to-excessive-memory-usage on other distros06:01
Kzar[dot] netYep06:01
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psusiI don't really remember now... floppies suck horribly06:02
sklavso any update on when the mirrors will be avail for US and CA?06:02
Seveasgod, put the entire file on the pastebin - let's have a look :)06:02
psusiI hate floppies with a passion06:02
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skonHow do I install proFTPD ??06:02
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elwoodspike...06:02
godSeveas:  Nevermind. It worked after I ran it again06:02
psusidon't even have a floppy drive on this computer06:02
Seveasskon, apt-get install proftpd06:02
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: you are right :) But I can't read most of my atari floppies on PC... :-(06:02
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sklavskon, do the following apt-get install proftpd06:02
_philhey all06:02
skonE: Couldn't find package proftpd06:02
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Seveas!info proftpd06:02
sklavhav you setup your apt?06:02
ubotuproftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB06:02
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Kzar[dot] netionte: have a look at http://www.nomachine.com/ and try the demo06:03
psusiKzar[dot] net, weren't those 5.25 inch floppies?06:03
Seveasenable universe06:03
Seveas!tell skon about universe06:03
_philI have a problem doing ./configure for anything, it says "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executable" does anyone know how to fix it?06:03
Kzar[dot] netpsusi: hey, for sure they aren't !06:03
godSeveas:  IT jus tsays that libgl1-mesa-dev is the newest version.06:03
Seveasgod, then it is installed :)06:03
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godSeveas:  But when I ld -lglut it says it can't find lglut.06:03
Seveasah, you want glut06:03
thoreauputicphiz:  sudo apt-get install build-essential06:03
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_philthoreauputic: thanks06:04
godSeveas:  and GLU, and GLUX, I just need like the whole shabang06:04
Kzar[dot] net!ubotu help06:04
Seveaslibglut3-dev - development libraries and headers for GLUT06:04
ionteKzar[dot] net, freenx does not do the same as vwmare...06:04
ionteKzar[dot] net, and what makes freenx superior to vnc?06:05
Seveasionte, imagine a responsive desktop over a modem link06:05
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godWoot.06:05
Seveasand then imagine vnc over a modem link06:05
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nico_at_nethi06:05
SeveasTHAT is the difference06:05
godSeveas:  Thanks. I think I can start working up my GL skills again. =D06:05
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Seveasgod, yw06:05
Kzar[dot] netionte: just have a try to be convinced :)06:05
nico_at_netcan y resor defaut parametre on gnome   ..??06:05
thoreauputicSeveas: your "system tray" applet for bmp is nice :) thanks !06:05
LinuxN00biehello, had anyone experienced any lag when updating ubuntu recently?06:05
ionteSeveas, ok06:05
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_philchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!06:05
_philchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!06:05
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Seveas_phil, NEVER paste in here06:06
_philok06:06
tritiumwtf-did-u-ban4, not cool, dude06:06
ionteKzar[dot] net, but it *is not a virtual machine*!06:06
wtf-did-u-ban4Seveas if you were trying to get my attention, it worked06:06
thoreauputic_phil:  sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev06:06
sklavLinuxN00bie, yes there is an issue with the mirrors06:06
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naliothubotu: tell Phazeman about xincludes06:06
Seveaswtf-did-u-ban4, hm?06:06
Kzar[dot] netionte: freenx is kind of deported X session with fast transfert protocom06:06
Kzar[dot] net*protocol06:06
naliothubotu: tell _phil about xincludes06:06
LinuxN00biesklav, no wonder... i got a terribly slow speed :D06:06
naliothubotu: tell thoreauputic about xincludes06:06
chrissturmif the us archive is down, does that mean that the mirrors also dont get updated?06:06
wtf-did-u-ban4But since I don't have a NICKSRV username I couldn't ask you with a /msg06:06
_philok, thanks all06:06
Seveaschrissturm, us IS the mirror06:06
sklavLinuxN00bie, you using us.archive.ubuntu.com06:07
wtf-did-u-ban4<-- arnducky06:07
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Seveasall other mirrors are updated06:07
thoreauputicnalioth: OK - thanks :)06:07
sklavand CA which is the same server06:07
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naliothwtf-did-u-ban4: it is not nice to avoid bans06:07
chrissturmSeveas, but de and at mirrors still get new dapper packages?06:07
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wtf-did-u-ban4And I'd like to know what reason you set a ban for.06:07
sklavaccording to nslookup06:07
LinuxN00biesklav, err nope06:07
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Seveaswtf-did-u-ban4, I never banned you, just muted because of repeated off-topicness - which is undone already06:07
wtf-did-u-ban4nalioth, he didn't kick, he jsut banned06:07
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LinuxN00biesklav, i'm using archive.ubuntu.com06:07
sklavyes06:07
thoreauputicwtf-did-u-ban4: it was a +q not a ban06:07
naliothwtf-did-u-ban4: whatever the issue, it is not nice to avoid the situation06:07
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sklavbut it says us.archive.ubuntu.com06:08
thoreauputicwtf-did-u-ban4: and he removed it quite a while ago anyway06:08
LinuxN00biesklav, so archive.ubuntu.com is lagging or the us one?06:08
wtf-did-u-ban4Well, Seveas, why didn't you jsut say 'off topic' (I only saw a generic ban message in my IRC client)06:08
sklavaccording to your region you selected whne you installed06:08
gnomefreakde.archive.ubuntu.com works06:08
sklavthey are probably 1 and the same06:08
Seveaswtf-did-u-ban4, i said that 3 times before06:08
gnomefreakus doesnt work its down06:08
tritiumwtf-did-u-ban4, please change your nick back now, and drop the issue06:08
LinuxN00biesklav, oh thx...06:08
Seveasnow cut it out or it will be a ban06:08
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_philnow it says there is a problem about Qt headers and libs not being found06:08
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Seveas_phil, hint: use a binary package06:08
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seliniumarnducky, for offtopic chat   #ubuntu-offtopic   :)06:09
sklavno prob06:09
arnduckyNo offense, but if you ever feel it necessary to set amode again, please type at least a 3 word reason why06:09
skon!sources06:09
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:09
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_philSeveas: There isn't one :S06:09
arnducky!rules06:09
ubotuarnducky: Not a clue06:09
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Seveas_phil, which pease of software06:09
naliothubotu: tell arnducky about coc06:09
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Seveas!rules is <reply> see coc06:09
ubotuokay, Seveas06:09
_philIt's the Tiblit theme from KDE-look.org06:10
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_philthere is a sources, openBSD and ebuild version06:10
Seveas_phil, right then install kde-dev06:10
_philSeveas: ok thanks06:10
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Seveaskde-devel that is06:10
_philthanks =)06:11
arnduckyI've read the Code of Conduct on the Ubuntu site and it says nothing about the minutiae of particular IRC community's netiquette -- it talks about RESPECT and a positive attitude only.06:11
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gnomefreakthe dev packages that are in synaptic. do they hold the source code for the packages in there?06:11
thoreauputicarnducky: *sigh* don't make a mountain of a molehill06:11
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tritiumarnducky, you don't want us to implement a ton of rules...that would be restrictive06:11
arnduckyfine -- EOF/EOT06:11
sabdflarnducky: it may be worth us creating a set of guidelines for irc06:11
Nassodoes anyone know where the javapackages are placed in a ubuntusystem?06:12
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arnducky'guidelines' is a good term06:12
chrissturmwill xorg in dapper be unbroken soon?06:12
sabdflarnducky: they've had to do that in the forums, and it seems to be working06:12
s_bartfastdoes the base (5.10) install come with any command-line scripts for configuring xorg?06:12
sabdflNasso: universe06:12
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sabdflchrissturm: i hope so, it's b0rked for me too :-)06:12
naliotharnducky: this is a help channel. help with ubuntu related issues. offtopic chat  (who's your g/f, boy that ball team rocks, wow that musician is hot!) belong in #ubuntu-offtopic06:12
tritiumsabdfl, we can certainly discuss them06:12
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Nassosabdfl, i got it installed. that is not what i mean :) i mean where in the filesystem do you place new packages if you want to use them when you code..06:13
Seveass_bartfast, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:13
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sabdfltritium: it may help for folks who are new to IRC if the netiquette stuff is made explicit06:13
TeddHi.06:13
s_bartfastcool, thanks06:13
chrissturmsabdfl: it will work for me as long as i dont reboot :)06:13
regeya!offtopic06:13
ubotu[offtopic]  Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!06:13
TeddNoob question06:13
TeddHow do I open .bins06:13
arnduckyI'm there now -- why don't you /JOIN there if you want to continue this.  See I'm not incorrigible -- just a slow learner.  Heh.06:13
Seveassabdfl, tritium, indeed - the NuN team once created such guidelines06:13
regeyabots rock06:13
naliothTedd: depends on the bin (what type it is)06:14
sabdflNasso: out of my java depth there then :-)06:14
TeddWell06:14
sklavok i have noticed some issues in ubuntu 5.1006:14
TeddI'm trying to download Java06:14
chrissturmTedd, chmod +x <filename>, ./<filename>06:14
Seveaswe should refer to them more often and try to keep them up-to-date06:14
Seveas*ping* nalioth :)06:14
naliothubotu: tell Tedd about java06:14
chrissturmtedd: use the java-packagre tools06:14
Belutzwow, sabdfl is talking in here :)06:14
sklavmostly related to the way shorewall and the network start06:14
sabdflin irssi, how do i switch between channels that i have joined?06:14
Seveas!tell tedd about java06:14
Seveassabdfl, /win number_of_window06:14
tritiumsabdfl, Alt-# should work, as should /win #06:14
s_bartfastanother q: us.archive.ubuntu.com (as included in /etc/apt/sourceslist) seems to be down..... is there a list of alternative repositories somewhere?06:14
TeddHey, that's pretty handy!06:15
naliothsabdfl: meta + number in your blue bar at the bottom06:15
sabdflSeveas: gracias06:15
sklavissue is related to the fact that pppoe connection starts after shorewall06:15
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sklavbut if you change the S40Shorewall to S42Shorewall06:15
tritiumnalioth, is more correct, with the meta-key, rather than Alt06:15
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_phils_bartfast: use these repos, the work fine for me http://psychocats.net/linux/sources.php06:15
sklavit works as expected.06:15
arangohi06:15
gnomefreaks_bartfast,  i changed them from us.archives to de archives and they worked fine06:15
Seveassklav, file a bug at malone06:15
Kzar[dot] netTux has now silicon implants ! http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/thinlinx_hottie_tux.jpg06:15
s_bartfastthank you06:15
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Seveas!tell Kzar[dot] net about offtopic06:16
zuenHi. anyone here run ubuntu on toshiba 4010?06:16
thoreauputictritium: in gnome-terminal alt-number changes tabs instead :)06:16
sklavwhat or who is malone?06:16
Seveas!tell zuen about anyone06:16
mannymanWhat is the extra content on the DVD ?06:16
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Seveassklav, launchpad.net/malone - the bugtracker06:16
arangoi ask many days here "how the hell print from windows machines to linux printers?" and no answer was the result06:16
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naliothmannyman: you get an install and live image on the dvd06:16
Seveasmannyman, all of the 'main' section06:16
sklavok i will bookmark it06:16
naliothSeveas: which dvd are we talking about?06:16
tritiumthoreauputic, okay...I'm speaking from my irssi on mac experience ;)06:16
arangobut don't worry finally i can print from windows (98/me and XP) on linux printers06:16
mannymannalioth, so nothing extra ?06:16
skonHello, I don't understand how the sources.list has to do with problems with apt-get install proftpd....can anyone help?06:17
Seveasnalioth, I assume an Ubuntu DVD :)06:17
gnomefreakubuntu has dvds now?06:17
FireCatarango: The short answer is to set up samba06:17
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chrissturmsabdfl, the new xorg packages are now on archive.ubuntu.com06:17
thoreauputictritium: oh, alt-number works fine in other terminals06:17
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Seveasskon, because in that file you specify where to download from06:17
arangofirecat: not as esay06:17
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naliothmannyman: you get all of main, in install and live images06:17
tritiumthoreauputic, meta-# should, yes06:17
skalpelcan someone tell me why gnomebaker freezes in the middle of burning an audio cd06:17
zuenOK. i need to know if toshiba 4010 will be able to run well with ubuntu 5.10... so i'm just asking if anyone has successfully install/use it. i've checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam but its not listed there.06:17
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Seveasskalpel, because it's cold?06:18
mannymanand the CDs don't have all of main ?!06:18
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skonOkay well I put in the sample one found at the site http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 and I tried the command again and I just get more errors06:18
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Seveaszuen, what's the hardware in that machine?06:18
thoreauputicskalpel: sounds like a bug ;)06:18
skalpelseveas: are u being funny06:18
skalpeli think it has something to do with drm? is that correct06:18
Seveasskon, are you using hoary (5.04) or breezy (5.10)06:18
skonhoary06:18
skalpeli fixed it once but have since reinstalled06:18
chrissturmtoday is the first day with a temperature below zero here in *.at06:18
Seveasskon, and paste the errors on the pastebin06:18
skalpelsomething to do with my burner settings06:18
zuenSeveas: it is a laptop. let me show you the specs: http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/pc/ptg4010_report.htm06:18
naliothmannyman: not enough room, i suspect06:18
Seveaszuen, gracias06:18
thoreauputicskalpel: do you mean "DMA" ?06:18
Seveashang on a second06:18
skonK where's the pastebin06:19
skalpelYES06:19
skalpeldma. how do i enable that06:19
zuenSeveas: sure. thanks :-)06:19
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Seveas!tell skon about pastebin06:19
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arangobye tnx06:19
thoreauputicskalpel: hdparm06:19
naliothubotu: tell skalpel about dma06:19
Seveas!tell skalpel about dma06:19
AndieBHI all!06:19
Seveasdamn you nalioth :p06:19
wermutIs it adviceful to install the graphics driver from the Intel homepage?06:19
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chrissturmwermut, nope06:19
Belutz:p06:19
thoreauputicwermut: probably not :)06:19
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chrissturmwermut, the intel driver is already in xorg06:19
AndieBI have trouble with my Wireless Ethernet. Ubuntu Linux (the latest stable version) never keeps my standardgateway. I set it to "ath0" but after rebooting, it is back to "eth0". What should I do?06:20
Seveaszuen, apart from the sd card reader it should work like a charm with Ubuntu06:20
wermutThanks for the reply.06:20
AndieBAnyone?06:20
Seveaszuen, and the modem will also not work unless you jump through hoops and have luck06:20
skonK Serveas it's in the pastebin06:20
zuenSeveas: goo to hear that :) i'm downloading 5.10 as we speak and i hope everything detects well.06:20
medomhow edit a pdf file???06:20
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zuenSeveas: yeah. i've no luck with the soft modem on Fedora Core 4 as well.06:21
binusi was setting nat with iptables -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat 192.168.0.0/24 and set ip_forward to 1 but i still can't get the client connected to the internet :(06:21
sklavSeveas, it wont let me create a bug report06:21
Seveasbinus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/483606:21
Seveassklav, you need to log in first06:22
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sklavi am logged in06:22
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sklavand accoutn created06:22
binusand btw, how to restart network in kubuntu?06:22
sklavi did a search to see if there where any open bugs already06:22
rsilvabinus: sudo /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart06:22
sklavthere was none so i select open a new bug06:22
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AndieBAnyone?06:22
binusthanks06:23
sklavand i get a page cannot be displayed error06:23
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zuenSeveas: currently the laptop is running winxp and i'm wondering if i should leave windows(boot.ini) control the dual boot sequence or use ubuntu lilo/grub for it. what do you suggest?06:23
Chousuke usually do init.d/networking restart06:23
sklavi use grub06:23
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skonGrub is good06:23
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ChousukeNot sure what that does differently.06:23
skonI have the same as you zuen06:23
Seveaszuen, i'd suggest grub06:23
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Seveassklav, hmm, odd06:24
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zuenhmm. grub...but that way i will need to format off windows first? i was thinking using partition magic on windows now to resize some free space and install ubuntu.06:24
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Seveassklav, con you PM me the details of the bug - i'll file it06:24
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sklavyeah that is what i figured06:24
Seveassklav, put your launhpad id in the msg too, so I can CC you06:24
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Belutzbinus, are you a binusian?06:24
Seveaszuen, the installer can resize your windows partition for you06:24
ShadikkaMr. Trouble is here again. ^^;06:24
sklavim trying to logout and try again ok06:25
AndieBHmm... no help at all...06:25
sklav2 minutes06:25
skonSeveas: would you mind looking at the pastebin just to see what I did wrong?06:25
binusBelutz: yes i am..06:25
ShadikkaWhat on earth is wrong when I get error "Unknown file system, partition type 0x7" when trying to boot from GRUB?06:25
zuenSeveas: really? cool. so i can just pop in the disc from boot and do the manual partition w/o erasing my existing windows partition?06:25
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Belutzbinus, are there a lot of binusian using ubuntu?06:25
Seveaszuen, yeah06:25
ShadikkaSince I've reformatted, repartitioned and rebecamecrazy a few times already...06:25
binusBelutz: nope.. just some06:25
Seveasskon, sudo apt-get update06:26
Seveasbrb - phone06:26
fredforfaenI want to use the i686 kernel , the k7 kernel is currently the operating one but i686 is installed.If i turn off 3d accelleration but typing in "nv" at driver in xorg.con the i686 kernel works fine...but when i follow the instructions for installing nvidia drivers it installs it on the old , k7 , kernel....How can i solve this?I want the i686 kernel , badly....06:26
Belutzbinus, i see, could you join me in #ubuntu-id ?06:26
zuenSeveas: OK. guess this page is for me: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/06:26
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skonoh okay thanks06:26
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rsilvafredforfaen: install linux-restrictedmodules-yourkernelofcoice06:26
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PyIRCHello.06:27
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rsilvafredforfaen: For example: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-68606:27
fredforfaenrsilva ill try06:27
fredforfaeni c rsilva06:27
binusSeveas: so i need to copy paste the script to a file06:27
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fredforfaenill try06:27
ShadikkaCan anyone help with that not-booting problem?06:27
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binusSeveas: and then set the IP (LAN & WAN), then running the script with ./thefilename  ?06:28
ShadikkaI've even tried to install it on my external drive and when trying to boot from there, it says "Missing operating system."06:28
ShadikkaI'm very nearly banging my head to the wall - once again...06:28
Seveasbinus, yeah06:28
Seveasbinus, you need to set IP and IF for both LAN and WAN06:29
RedRosewhere is a good place to et ubuntu repositories?06:29
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[Kismet] where can I find information on how works the map directive of /etc/network/interfaces ?06:30
tritium[Kismet] , man interfaces06:30
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ShadikkaJust to ask, can you even see what I type? o.O06:31
RedRosewhere is a get repositories06:31
SeveasShadikka, not at all, try some color ;)06:31
chimaerahi. is there any information on the patched-in zd1211 driver of the ubuntu kernel available? i can't get it to work.. (the sourceforge driver is running, though)..06:31
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Seveas!tell RedRose about repos06:31
fredforfaen!nvidia06:31
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:31
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blankyhow can I install a splsash screen06:31
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blankyhow can I install a splash screen, anyone?06:32
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m_akys\join #ubuntu-es06:32
chimaeraother way ;)06:32
ShadikkaSeveas, *wirn* I'd perefer not to ;D06:32
m_akys:D06:33
tritiumblanky, are you asking about usplash?  If it's not enabled for you now, you need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)06:33
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blankytritium, I mean a splash screen, you know, once you log in, theres a picture of ubuntu loading the stuff06:34
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tritiumblanky, that's usplash06:34
RedRoseis the upgrade to dapper worth it?06:34
tritiumRedRose, not now, X is broken06:34
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cocoxhi where is the default install directory in ubuntu? i already intalled xmms and dont know where to find their files,,,06:34
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blankytritium, oh it is, and so what do I do to use it06:35
tritiumcocox, dpkg -L <packagename> will list package contents06:35
tritiumblanky, see my previous message06:35
cocoxtritium, ok now i found it thnk u a lot!06:35
blankysudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)06:35
blankyexactly like that?06:36
blankyor do I sub something in for image or something06:36
ShadikkaWhat can I do to the error "Unknown file system, partition type 0x7" :E06:36
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tritiumcocox, :)06:36
tritiumblanky, just like that06:36
strokeyanyone here experiances with ndiswraper? ><06:37
blankythanks06:37
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blankytritium, apparently its done, now what06:37
eatnumber1shadikka: is that partition your talking about NTFS?06:37
fredforfaen!nvidia06:38
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:38
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Shadikkaeatnumber1, nope...06:38
ShadikkaIt's at least supposed to be ext306:38
tritiumblanky, verify that it works on your next reboot06:38
eatnumber1shadikka: do u have a dual-boot system?06:38
blankytritium: but where do I put my splash image06:38
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tritiumblanky, it's already configured06:39
io_errorOK, apt/dpkg is driving me mad06:39
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Shadikkaeatnumber1, yes.06:39
io_errorHow do I list all the files that were installed from a package?06:39
onkarshindeblanky: Are you talking about grub splash image?06:39
blankyno not grub splash image06:39
ShadikkaDual-boot with (now-broken) WinXP.06:39
m_akysI have a problem with my sound card. I have a intelx0 (ac97) on board. Ubuntu load the module, but I can't change the volume level with master channel. I must change the headphone channel!!06:39
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eatnumber1shadikka: is your windows partition NTFS?06:39
onkarshindeio_error: dpkg -L packagename06:39
blankyI mean, you know how after you log in, there's a splash image that shows you it's loading something06:39
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Shadikkaeatnumber1, yes.06:40
blankyonkarshinde, read above06:40
TeddHuh.06:40
eatnumber1shadikka: and do u use GRUB to boot to windows?06:40
io_erroronkarshinde: thanks06:40
TeddI'm having a little bit of problem with the repositories.06:40
onispawnblanky: the gnome splash?06:40
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Shadikkaeatnumber1, well, I have GRUB on /dev/sda2 (USB drive) and NTLDR on /dev/hdb1 (MBR)06:40
io_errorNow, why can't I connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com ?06:40
naliothTedd: edit your sources.list adn remove the us. or ca. from the front of archive.blah06:40
blankyonispawn, that!06:40
onkarshindeblanky: You can put it anywhere. But I think you will have to modify the setting using GConf editor06:40
ShadikkaShould I just try to take the hard disk of? :P06:40
Shadikka*off06:40
io_errorbah06:40
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onispawnblanky: what do you want to do to it?06:40
ShadikkaI mean the XP one.06:40
tritiumblanky, I'm not talking about grub06:41
blankywait, how do I set it?06:41
onkarshindeio_error: read topic06:41
naliothio_error:  edit your sources.list adn remove the us. or ca. from the front of archive.blah06:41
blankyI want to use a different gnome splash I got from gnome-look.org06:41
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blankyhow do I set it06:41
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pztaki'm getting a weird dependency error with nidswrapper 1.5 -- has anyone had luck installing it?06:41
TeddErr06:41
eatnumber1shadika: dunno then... srry06:41
io_errortoo late, already did that :)06:41
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TeddHow would I go about doing that06:41
TeddIs that a terminal command06:41
eatnumber1shadika:  id recommend googling that error06:42
onispawnblanky: click system->preferences->Splash Screen06:42
Shadikkaeatnumber1, ok, I'll just try to remove the Windows hard drive >:)~ And OK, I'll use teh Google.06:42
onispawnblanky: you can add it to that menu, and activate it06:42
blankyonispawn, I dont have system -> preferences -> splashscreen06:42
blankyhow do I add it to the menu06:42
eatnumber1shadikka: oh!06:42
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Shadikkaeatnumber1, ah, Google helped a bit...06:43
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TeddHow does one edit their sources?06:43
blankyonispawn, please, how cna I add that to the menu, I dont have splash screen in preferences06:43
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eatnumber1shadikka: im not sure if this applies entirely, but ive had problems with installs if I had another boot loader in the MBR of my /dev/hda006:43
Shadikkanow I only apparently should get to configure GRUB - and it's interesting since I can't boot my computer to anything o.O06:43
onispawnblanky: just a sec06:43
blankykay06:43
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onkarshindeblanky: If you do as I say you will be able to change it06:43
Shadikkaeatnumber1, ok, brb, I'll try a few things...06:43
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onispawnblanky: in the console type the command `gnome-splashscreen-manager`06:44
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Tedd!tell tedd about editing sources06:44
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TeddDamn.06:44
pztaki'm getting a weird dependency error with nidswrapper 1.5 -- has anyone had luck installing it?06:44
m_akysHow can I swap the master and headphone sound channels?06:44
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onkarshindeblanky: Open gconf-editor (Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor)06:45
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cycompztak: what kind of weird dependancy error?06:45
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TeddSorry about that.06:45
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strokeyAnyone here experiances enough with ndiswrapper to help a complete noob to linux and stuff to help install it?06:46
pebsdoes anyone know how to configure xsupplicant for eap-leap wifi?? (please pm me)06:46
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TeddSo how does one go about editing their sources?06:46
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[Kismet] Do you know if ipw2200 stop to work if I start my laptop with ACPI disabled?06:46
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pztakcycom, the module package wanted the utils package to be installed, and vice-versa.. i tried forcing it, but then apt-get -f install would want to erase them both06:46
TeddOr should I just wait until us.archive.ubuntu.com is up again06:46
blankygnome-splashscreen-manager didnt work, im in configuration editor06:46
binusSeveas: i have topology like this: eth0 (IP: 192.168.2.2/24 Gw: 192.168.2.1) and eth1 (IP: 192.168.3.1/24), the eth0 is connected to PC Router (Mikrotik) and the eth1 connected to the client (IP: 192.168.3.2), the situation is i can do internet from this kubuntu, but the client (192.168.3.2) can't ping www.google.com and anything :( would you help me solve the problem06:46
[Kismet] strokey, NDisWrapper is easy to install... just follow the documentation on their website06:46
cycom[Kismet] : don't disable acpi! there are better ways.  What kind of laptop is it?06:46
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strokey[Kismet] : tried :(06:46
teroednicould someone tell me if nvidia drivers here http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_amd64_archive.html06:47
[Kismet] strokey, you'll have to use the console and command line but nothing too difficult..06:47
onkarshindeblanky: in conf editor go to apps->gnome-session06:47
teroedniare installed in ubuntu06:47
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blankythere06:47
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teroednior are ubuntu using open source driver for nforce chipset?06:47
binusSeveas: this is my setting: http://pastebin.com/43728906:47
blankyah I see it onkarshinde thanks!06:47
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cycompztak: try apt-get build-dep for the package you need?06:47
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TeddANybody know how to change their sources?06:48
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blankyonkarshinde, can you tell me where that folder is, splash06:48
cycom[Kismet] : why are you shutting of acpi?06:48
godAnyone want to help me with OpenGL? #opengl is...dead.06:48
naliothubotu: tell Tedd about repos06:48
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pztakcycom, i actually just got it to work, i used the --force-configure-any on the module package, rather than just --force-any.. thanks though!06:48
binusSeveas: when i run the script.. i didn't get any error, but the client PC still can't do internet06:48
onispawngod: what do you want to do?06:48
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cycompztak: np. it was kind of a shot in the dark06:48
[Kismet] cycom, beacuse otherwise the laptop do not boot due to kernel OOPS :-(06:48
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fredforfaen!grub06:48
godonispawn:  I get this when I run my compiled source::: something: freeglut_main.c:1069: glutMainLoop: Assertion `fgState.Initialised' failed.06:48
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting06:48
cycom[Kismet] : what kind of laptop?06:48
onkarshindeblanky: /usrshare/pixmaps/splash06:48
blankythanks06:49
Toriyama.06:49
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toolhola06:50
TeddFuck it. I'll just wait until Us.Archive.Ubuntu.Com is back up06:50
fredforfaenhow do i manually set what kernel is default in grub?06:50
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Toriyamahola06:50
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onispawngod: hmm.. you including the glut library?06:50
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godonispawn:  Yeah.06:51
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godonispawn:  It's compiled, remember?06:51
toolhey06:51
toolpor que nadie habla?06:51
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toolbueno me voy06:51
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redguy!es06:51
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:51
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ImpiHas anybody else experienced problems after installing msttfonts?06:52
binusdoes someone else can help me with this NAT problem? :( i need it badly06:52
blankylast question; how do I install cursor themes06:53
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[Kismet] cycom, it's not mine, I don't rember the model number but I've already looked to LaptopTestingTeam wiki pages and is not listed06:53
Shadikkanow THIS should be enough to make it work ^^06:53
ImpiI am now unable to read any of the text in Ubuntu's wiki explanation boxes. You know, the slightly offset boxes containing instruction sets.06:53
ShadikkaI took my Windows HDD off and I'm installing Ubuntu again. If it won't work NOW, I'll really go damage the nearest wall with my head.06:53
redguybinus: nobody06:53
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keHaha06:53
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redguybinus: not till you ask your question06:54
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keShadikka, I feel with ya'! Been messing a lot with it as well06:54
keLife's a bitch06:54
keThen you die06:54
onkarshindeShadikka: Can yu once tell me your problem?06:54
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redguybinus: aah you asked it aleardy, let me scroll06:54
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jaredam I the only one having trouble connecting to the repositories?06:55
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binusredguy i already ask my question: i have topology like this: eth0 (IP: 192.168.2.2/24 Gw: 192.168.2.1) and eth1 (IP: 192.168.3.1/24), the eth0 is connected to PC Router (Mikrotik) and the eth1 connected to the client (IP: 192.168.3.2), the situation is i can do internet from this kubuntu, but the client (192.168.3.2) can't ping www.google.com and anything :( would you help me solve the problem. This is my setting: http://pastebin.com/43728906:55
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kevogodjared, No06:55
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ImpiI'm having problem connecting to the za.ubuntu.com repositories06:55
Impiproblems*06:55
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onkarshindejared: !topic06:55
onispawngod: sorry. Im trying to find my opengl stuff to see if I have ever come across that error before06:56
spartasIf I want to use svnserve with inetd, what permissions do I have to give the repository (it's giving me errors on commits)06:56
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jaredonkarshinde: sry.06:56
ubuntulivecdis there a way to have ubuntu automount all partions on all disks, and have shortcuts on the desktop?06:56
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godonispawn:  I've never come across it and I've been doing OpenGL for almost a year now06:57
onkarshinde!tell ubuntulivecd about winmac06:57
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onispawngod: yea. it sounds familiar to me. just trying to remember the password for the server to get my notes06:57
aquariusCan I start up an already-logged-in X session in an Xnest? So I can have my Gnome desktop running both on my desktop itself and then again in an Xnest window?06:57
onkarshinde!tell ubuntulivecd about ntfs06:57
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ubuntulivecdthanks onkarshinde06:57
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fredforfaenvmware06:58
fredforfaen!vmware06:58
ImpiHas anybody else had the same problem with the instructions boxes on the Ubuntu Wiki? (ie of there being no visible text)06:58
ubotufredforfaen: What?06:58
redguybinus: I'm no iptalbes whizz, but it seems that echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is missing, maining that you don't have packet forwarding enabled06:58
onkarshindeaquarius: I suppose no. Xnest is for new session IMHO06:58
fredforfaenanybody here got vmware working on breezy?06:58
aquariusonkarshinde, ah, OK. I was hoping that that wasn't the case :)06:58
onkarshindefredforfaen: Don't know about vmware but bochs and qemu are good06:59
fredforfaenhow do i use qemu?06:59
Pegasos989I dunno much about linux firewalls. Can someone please tell me if these are safe to do? http://dcgui.berlios.de/doc/manual.html#networking-firewall06:59
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redguybinus: I use shorewall, maybe you want to look into that? Once you learn it it's pretty intuitive...06:59
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onkarshindefredforfaen: install from synaptic06:59
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ubuntulivecdalso, why would the language selector only give me one language? I used the live cd in another computer and it gave me like 3006:59
binusredguy: i already do "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward   and   add _net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 to /etc/sysctl.conf06:59
fredforfaenthink i already have it installed onkarshinde but i never worked out how i should use it..:|07:00
binusredguy: yes... if that works07:00
redguybinus: can you ping the gateway?07:00
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fredforfaen!qemu07:00
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ImpiArgh, I can just see myself doing a full wipe and reinstall07:00
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ImpiWhat a way to spend an hour07:01
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binusredguy: yes i can ping the eth0 and eth1 IP from client07:01
[Kismet] Which package contain the man pages realted to the  documentation of printf c function?07:01
godImpi:  I spent 4 hours last night trying to install OpenGL by myself.07:01
redguybinus: can you ping 72.14.207.99 [google.com] ?07:01
godImpi:  Ended up waiting until this morning and asking someone.07:01
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binusredguy: nope :(07:02
spartasanyone help me get the permissions right for an svn repo using inetd in breezy (i already have installed the netkit-inetd package)07:02
Impigod: ouch. I guess an hour doesn't sound too bad compared to that. Besides, it' s still a new installation I guess, I won't lose much07:02
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godImpi:  lol. Good luck with it.07:02
ImpiThough I did manage to get Picasa working through Wine (easier than I thought)07:02
redguybinus: not sure i understood you; can you ping 192.168.2.1 from the host on the 192.168.3.0 network?07:02
godI can't even find wine.07:02
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godImpi: How did you get wine?07:02
Impigod: I got it from WineHQ, they've got instructions on adding their repository to the Synaptic list, and you just go from there.07:03
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godImpi:  I'll have to try that later. I'll write it on my screen07:03
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binusredguy: i can't ping 2.1 because 2.1 is on mikrotik PC Router (as my kubuntu gateway.. in kubuntu the ip is 2.2 eth0)07:03
fredforfaen!backports07:04
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.07:04
Shadikkaonkarshinde, sorry, I apparently haven't noticed anything -.- My bad *sigh* I blame my sister, this is her configuration on mIRC. Hard to see anything...07:04
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binusredguy: but i can ping 2.207:04
jose__you can install wine with Automatix07:04
ShadikkaWell, to put it shortly: I'm trying to get WinXP and Ubuntu to dual-boot. And I'm not succeeding.07:04
jose__it is really easy07:04
Impigod: It's great. I'd always thought Wine was a silly little program for running outdated Win32 programs. This is the first time I've realised that it's actually a pretty powerful, and impressive, bit of software. Consider me proven wrong.07:04
redguybinus: that doesn't mean anything... you mean that your router doesn't reply to pings?07:04
gnomefreakShadikka,  did you install ubuntu last07:05
ShadikkaI'm reinstalling Ubuntu now, without the WinXP HDD connected.07:05
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jose__Shadikka, do you have windows already installed?07:05
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ShadikkaWell, yes and no. I'm reinstalling it.07:05
gnomefreakShadikka,  install xp than install ubuntu and grub should pick xp up07:05
Pegasos989I dunno much about linux firewalls. Can someone please tell me if these are safe to do? http://dcgui.berlios.de/doc/manual.html#networking-firewall Just a few command changing iptables and such I thinks.07:05
Shadikkagnomefreak, ok...07:05
godImpi:  I might need it for WC3...07:05
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redguybinus: what does sudo ip route list say on your 3.1 host?07:05
gnomefreakShadikka,  have the xp hd connected too07:05
binusredguy: do you mean the 2.1 (PC Router / Mikrotik)? yes, it doesn't reply anything07:05
jose__i think the easiest way is to install first winXP, let some free space on the disk (not partitioned) and then install ubuntu07:06
ShadikkaYeah..07:06
gnomefreakxp's boot loader is garbage07:06
jose__ubuntu will install grub so you can boot both OS's07:06
gnomefreakkeep that in mind07:06
onispawngod: could you show me the command you used to compile your program?07:06
ShadikkaBut I have to install Linux in order to backup my stuff from the XP HDD in order to format it in order to reinstall XP.07:06
ShadikkaNicey, eh? :E07:06
redguybinus: hmm that doesn't help us much07:06
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Impigod: Getting WC3 running via Wine would be awesome. They say it can be done, though I have yet to try it.07:06
eatnumber1gnomefreak: x'pseverything is garbage07:06
gnomefreakShadikka,  you using 2 hds?07:06
jose__do you have free space on the HDD?07:06
Shadikkagnomefreak, actually three.07:06
eatnumber1xp's*07:06
gnomefreaklol true eatnumber107:06
binusredguy: 192.168.3.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.3.2 default via 192.168.3.1 dev eth007:07
ShadikkaBut I'm not using my external drive now..07:07
godonispawn g++ something.cpp -lglut -lGL -lGLU -o something07:07
Shadikkaah, brb, next stage of installation -->07:07
gnomefreakok Shadikka  if xp and ubuntu will be on different drives dont touch xp once installed just reinstall ubuntu07:07
godImpi:  You can run CS on it so I'm sure you can run WC3.07:07
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Impigod: Yep, so I heard. That's pretty impressive.07:07
Badm4nhorayyyy07:07
redguybinus: hmmmmm07:07
Badm4ni'm using ubuntu 5.10 now07:08
Badm4nconnected using linksys 11 wusb 2.407:08
Badm4nthx pplz07:08
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jose__have someone used ndiswrapper to install a wireless card in ubuntu?07:08
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Pegasos989Impi and god, so you can install warcraft 3 thro wine, no cedega etc required? Does it need a lot of configurating wine?07:08
Badm4nnow07:08
redguybinus: so it's not possible to make your mikrotik router reply to pings?07:08
godPegasos989:  I don't know I don't have wine yet.07:08
Badm4nwhat should or where i can get preference about securing my debian ?07:08
Badm4ni mean ubuntu07:08
Impipegasos989: I've never tried it myself, so I can't help you there unfortunately.07:08
godPegasos989:  I'm working on getting all my programming needs up first.07:08
Badm4nsorry wrong word07:08
Pegasos989Pfft. Programming needs before wc3? You disgust me07:09
gnomefreakBadm4n,  what do you mean securing ubuntu?07:09
godPegasos989:  I'm going to be a programmer for a living. xD07:09
binusredguy: just a minute..07:09
Impigod: It would be great if Wine or a derivative could one day allow us to run all Win programs seamlessly. Unfortunately that's unlikely, but we can dream, right?07:09
Badm4ni mean07:09
Badm4nto lear about ubuntu server admin07:09
Pegasos989god, two words: War Craft07:09
Pegasos989:/07:09
godImpi:   All you need is the source code and a good understand of the language they made it in.07:10
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godPegasos989:  One integer: $64,00007:10
Badm4ni start with make secure my pc first then apply to my server07:10
redguybinus: LAN_NET=192.168.0.0/2407:10
redguy <----- shouldn't it be 192.168.3.0/24 ??07:10
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Pegasos989god, okay, you won07:10
Badm4nso ? any idea ?07:10
binusredguy: i can do ping and get reply from mikrotik pc router ip (192.168.2.1)07:10
godPegasos989:  That's starting wage for a programmer. Lol07:10
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franchunas07:10
godPegasos989:  I'll get to WC3 in a minute or two.07:10
redguybinus: from which host? both?07:10
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Shadikkaw00t! It works!07:10
Impigod: True07:10
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Pegasos989cause 64k can buy a lot of warcraft 3 copies :/07:10
binusredguy: i already try with 3.0 too but still problem... let me check it once again07:10
ShadikkaIt's just installing the packages now x)07:11
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Badm4nwhat should or where i can get preference about HOWTO make secure my ubuntu ?07:11
godPegasos989:  and buy computers for 600 people and have one gigantic LAN Party.07:11
Pegasos989:O07:11
Pegasos989cheap comps07:11
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gnomefreakBadm4n,  if your asking about a firewall there is a firewall wrote into the kernel07:11
godPegasos989:  Lol. I guess, yeah.07:11
Impigod and Pegasos989: Don't forget the money you need to spend to have 600 friends in the first place :P07:11
Pegasos989:P07:11
eatnumber1whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when it is installing the packages, it gives me some weird error07:11
naliothgod: Pegasos989: Impi: y'all discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic please07:11
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godImpi:  I have tons of friends.07:11
eatnumber1and I can never get ubuntu to install correctly07:12
ShadikkaBut, one question: Is it possible to install Ubuntu without the WinXP HDD on and then install XP without the Ubuntu HDD on and then configure GRUB to boot XP also?07:12
godnalioth:  Yes mother.07:12
binusredguy: i still can't ping internet / pc router ip07:12
Pegasos989nalioth, okayokay. :(07:12
Impigod: Didn't mean to imply you didn't07:12
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  error that looks like us.archive.ubuntu.com?07:12
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Impinalioth: ok07:12
onispawngod: not sure what to tell you on that one. seems like the way your initializing your window is making it crash. you should try debugging it, and making sure all the values are what you expect them to be07:12
ImpiOh yes, time for a serious question. How do I get Grub to boot up to WinXP first by default?07:12
godonispawn:  Alright. Thanks.07:12
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ShadikkaImpi, grub.lst?07:12
eatnumber1gnomefreak: no, the error is like the installer crashes, and I see a grey screen with alot of texe07:12
onispawngod: you know how to debug Im assuming?07:12
eatnumber1text*07:13
Shadikkaeurh, menu.lst I mean07:13
binusredguy: i can do ping to the mikrotik pc router ip (192.168.2.1) from this kubuntu (where i need to set the NAT for the client)07:13
ImpiShadikka, where do I modify that?07:13
Pegasos989I dunno much about linux firewalls. Can someone please tell me if these are safe to do? http://dcgui.berlios.de/doc/manual.html#networking-firewall Just a few command changing iptables and such I thinks.07:13
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  did you burn the cd after downloading it?07:13
ShadikkaImpi, /boot/grub/menu.lst07:13
Impiah, thanks07:13
godonispawn:  Yeah.07:13
Shadikkanp.07:13
eatnumber1gnomefreak: yes... but im sure its a valid cd, i did a md5 check on the ISO and on the cd07:13
onispawngod: alright. good luck07:13
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godonispawn:  The error says glutMainLoop..07:14
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eatnumber1and I used the installer07:14
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eatnumber1to check it07:14
godonispawn:  So, it's happening the second time around, or on the loop func?07:14
PinTol o i have a problem compileing my kernel07:14
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  what speed did you burn it?07:14
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PinTocan ne 1 help plz07:14
eatnumber148x07:14
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gnomefreakeatnumber1,  reburn it at the lowest possible speed07:14
eatnumber1but the installer said the media was valid07:14
Badm4ngnomefreak, and every1 ... i mean make my ubuntu secure with a services... which 1 is needed and which 1 are vulner and unNeeded07:14
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sklavfor all those worried ;)07:14
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PinToi cant "make-kpkg clean07:15
redguybinus: hmm lest's try one last thing07:15
sklavus.archives.ubuntu.com is back07:15
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gnomefreakty sklav07:15
PinTobut i can make clean07:15
onispawngod: its happening in the glut loop fuction07:15
Impialright, time to go reinstall! (cue scary Jaws-style music) (also cue a dozen people groaning at the lameness of the previous comment)07:15
gnomefreakbrb let me change sources again07:15
onispawngod: some point after you turn your application over to glut07:15
onispawngod: it might be a call back function error07:15
binusredguy: yes.. i'm waiting for it :) /me pray it will works07:16
redguybinus: in $IPT --table filter --append INPUT --in-interface ! $WAN_IF --jump ACCEPT change "! $WAN_IF" to "$LAN_IF"07:16
godonispawn:  I inster glutIdleFunc and now it has the error there.07:16
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godonispawn:  insert*07:16
eatnumber1gnomefreak: im booting ubuntu live so I can reburn it at 1x07:16
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PinToand this doesnt work at all "make-kpkg --revision=786:MyKernel2.6.14 kernel_image" n e 1 know there correct binary07:17
redguybinus: as I've said, I'm no iptables guru, but this line looks kindof suspicious07:17
onispawngod: would you be willing to send me your source so I could look at it?07:17
PinToand this doesnt work at all "make-kpkg --revision=786:Kernel2.6.14 kernel_image" n e 1 know there correct binary07:17
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  i have burned tham as high as 8 but they say burn at slowest07:17
godonispawn:  Yeah just a sec.07:17
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eatnumber1gnomefreak: but still, since it said the media was valid, dosent that mean that there isent any problems with it?07:17
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godonispawn:  It's been a while since I ever made a program..so yeah.07:18
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PinTogoing once07:18
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  there can be issues when burning too fast i dont make the rules i just know them :(07:18
PinTogoing twice07:18
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binusredguy: it didn't works :( ok thanks mate... i will try ask in other channel :) thanks!07:18
naliotheatnumber1: if the md5sums check on the iso, burn it as slow as you can, there have been issues with high-speed burns in some cases07:19
godonispawn:  I'll put it on pastebin07:19
PinToinstead of using "make-kpkg --revision=786:Kernel2.6.14 kernel_image" n e 1 got another suggestion07:19
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redguybinus: np. look into shorewall if you won't manage with this07:19
eatnumber1nalioth: the md5sum checked the iso AND the cd07:19
onispawnok07:19
godonispawn:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d500307:19
PinToone that relevant to ubuntu 5.1007:19
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naliotheatnumber1: i'm just reporting what we've seen in here. perhaps try it in another machine/drive07:20
binusredguy: ok :)07:20
eatnumber1nalioth: and I used the ubuntu installer's check disc finction which said the disc was valid07:20
eatnumber1nalioth: its the only 64bit comp i have07:20
naliotheatnumber1: ok then, might be the hardware07:20
PinToi have had to modify the guide a few times but i'am stuck on this one07:20
sklavbe back later all07:20
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PinTo<-----second day ubunoob07:21
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  the iso might be good but if the burn got interuppted by something like your disk drive or left a file in download and never burned it it will cause that problem burning it at slower speed is how its fixed unless its a hardware issue07:21
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binusredguy: do you have the script for setting shorewall easily07:22
PinToi cant belive i follow an a ubuntu guide and it never works consistantly07:22
eatnumber1gnomefreak: k3b checked the md5hash of the actual CD after it burned it. Also, ubuntu's installer has a check cd function which said it was valid07:23
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gnomefreakeatnumber1, k3b checks the md5 before the copy not after it just verifies the copy was made07:23
gnomefreakeatnumber1,  look man im not gonna argue with you if you dont want to reburn it dont ok but me and nalioth  have told you to see if it fixes it07:24
eatnumber1ah, ok... but the installer in expert mode has a check cd function too07:24
eatnumber1srry, i diddent mean to be arguing07:24
gnomefreakeatnumber1, so do most other distros and not one have i found to be very accurate07:25
eatnumber1any particular writing mode I shud burn it with?07:26
PinTocan some1 help me07:26
naliotheatnumber1: the mode where you can enjoy a hot cuppa cocoa while it burns, lol07:26
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gnomefreakiso eatnumber1  let it pick the mode for you just change the write speed07:26
eatnumber1k07:26
gnomefreaklol nalioth07:26
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eatnumber1ok, its burning07:27
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PinToso close but so far away07:27
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djm62ok, no ubuntu polish room?07:27
gnomefreaksit back and wait for now :) it might be a while07:27
PinToi have my kernel setup for my machine alls i need to is compile it...and lnk kernel image07:27
naliothdjm62: #ubuntu-pl07:27
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godgnomefreak:  I noticed it takes like a year to burn a CD on linux that would take me 2 minutes on windows. Lol07:28
strokeyAnyone here experianced enough with ndiswrapper to help a complete noob to linux and stuff to help install it?07:28
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djm62nalioth: doesn't appear to be set up :-/07:28
PinToi cant belive this new kernel supports all my bits07:28
total_assaulthey, ubuntu mount my windows parition when installing, but now I can't access it since it belongs to root and tells me i dont have permission?07:28
El_Chestrokey: use nerolinux?07:28
naliothdjm62: there may be no polish users there07:28
PinToincluding modem man wot ablast07:28
strokeyEl_Che?07:28
gnomefreakgod,  if i had to guess its the size and the type of burning your doing but your right k3b is a bit slow07:28
godtotal_assault:  use sudo.07:28
El_Chepretty fast here07:28
skapplecan someone tell me why gnomebaker might freeze in the middle of burning an audio cd?07:28
PinTostupid guides07:28
strokeyEl_Che: i have 0 clue what your talking about :E07:28
godskapple:  Maybe it's not freezing and just sitting htere.07:29
total_assaultgod: i want to access it all the time withou sudo in order to play media files07:29
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El_Chestrokey: it's the windows nero burning programma, a linux version07:29
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naliothtotal_assault: it's a permissions issue in your fstab07:29
godtotal_assault:  Then enable root like me.07:29
gnomefreakthere is nerolinux but i dont think its avalible through the repos07:29
strokeyand why would i need that?07:29
skapplegod: why would iot just be sitting there07:29
naliothgod: that is not the problem with total_assault07:29
cozhello all and happy thankgiving to thoses in the US07:29
El_Chegnomefreak: payware07:29
cozguys I have a problem07:29
El_Cheyou can download a trial to test it out though07:29
naliothgod: there is not a reason ever to enable the root account07:29
coz I ran the update manager and blindly updated07:30
ernstpcool, r300 dri up and running on dapper!07:30
godnalioth:  I like to do things for no reason. I enabled mine.07:30
naliothtotal_assault: join #ubuntu-offtopic and we'll help you with it07:30
gnomefreakEl_Che,  even worse than finding it in repos :(07:30
total_assaultnalioth: where is fstab config file located please07:30
godnalioth:  I'm always on my root.07:30
ernstpabout 60 fps in supertux with opengl, not too bad07:30
coznow I have this blue xubuntu instead of ubuntu at boot07:30
total_assaultnalioth: k07:30
godskapple:  My Audio CD took like 20 minutes.07:30
naliothgod: that is fine. please dont advise your habits in #ubuntu07:30
cozhwo do I change this?07:30
PinTototal assault even i know that07:30
PinTo<------second day07:30
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PinToi could help u07:30
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onispawngod: ok. I see a few errors you have07:30
El_Chegnomefreak: when finding out your burner doesn't work on k3b, you don't have much choice07:30
godnalioth:  Couldn't he then just sudo cp the media files and then sudo chmod?07:31
godonispawn:  Where?07:31
onispawngod: first one you never initalized glut07:31
PinTothe blind leading the blind07:31
ZugwrackIs there a known problem with the DVD breezy for PPC? Mine won't boot using any of the usual methods regarding macintosh07:31
godonispawn:  THAT'S IT. I forgot that. Haha.07:31
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godonispawn:  It' sbeen about 4 months. lol07:31
El_Chegnomefreak: it's now included in some samsung burned. legally07:31
binusbtw, how to check my iptables setting? is that iptables -L but i don't see any NAT settings :( ? i just found: ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            state RELATED,ESTABLISHED07:31
naliothgod: this is a common problem we see here all the time. it is a fstab permission issue07:31
onispawngod: second. you need to return a value07:31
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gnomefreakEl_Che,  ubuntu has a few burning software in its repos like gnomebaker and a few command line burners07:31
naliothgod: and no amount of sudo or su or root account will change it w/o editing the fstab07:31
godonispawn:  Yeah. the returning usually doesn't affect cpp programs. so I forget it sometimes.07:31
benplauti woke up this morning, and my grub splash was gone, replaced by an ugly one07:31
benplautw3rd07:31
cozgnomebaker is great!07:31
onispawngod: 3rd. you should always have a reshape callback with glut07:31
PinTototal assault its in the ubuntu guide under mount ntfs...there is a section there that involves editing Fstab07:31
godnalioth:  Mine mounted my windows drives wehn I installed. It looked like he said that.07:32
godonispawn:  I've never used a reshape.07:32
cozany way to get rid of the blue xubuntu druing boot?07:32
PinTothe unofficial ubuntu guide07:32
onispawngod: and at the end of your display callback you need to do a glutSwapBuffer(); followed by a glutPostRedisplay();07:32
naliothgod: but since you use your own practices, you never noticed the permissions, most likely07:32
skapplegod: seems like it should be faster07:32
PinTohttp://ubuntuguide.org/07:32
gnomefreakcoz: the splash screen?07:32
naliothPinTo: the ubuntuguide is wrong.07:32
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gnomefreakPinTo,  that is not right07:33
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide07:33
onispawngod: reshape is good since it lets you adjust your application to the size of the window.07:33
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.07:33
naliothPinTo: the ubuntuguide has broken hundreds of ubuntu boxes, it is old and out of date07:33
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nalioth!ubuntuguide07:33
PinTowhy not gnomefreak07:33
gnomefreaknalioth,  got there already07:33
gnomefreak:)07:33
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godonispawn:  Are you sure it's glutSwapBuffer?07:33
naliothPinTo: if you use ubuntuguide, you should not expect it to work on breezy07:33
gnomefreakPinTo,  it is not updated regulary07:33
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onispawngod: glutSwapBuffers();07:34
PinTognome i didnt know but there is section there about fstab07:34
PinToif he is using ubuntu07:34
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PinTosorry07:34
Mysteryhello, i need some help, i've dual booted windows XP and ubuntu, in ubuntu i want to be able to read from the partitions held by windows, ubuntu seems to of already mounted the partitions but when i try to open them it gives me an error saying that i don't have permision to access them =\07:34
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godonispawn:  Alright. What do I put in again for glutInit()?07:34
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ubuntulnxis there any way to install mplayer without making it default player within firefox?07:35
godonispawn:  The parameters07:35
keyeshello07:35
onispawngod: glutInit(&argc, argv);07:35
gnomefreakPinTo,  weather ther is or isnt if ubuntuguide screws up his pc it looks bad on us. so keep everything nice we refer ppl to the official guide or the one in your breezy menu07:35
onispawngod: just pass what you get from main into it07:35
keyeshow can I boot the Ubuntu Install CD from a floppy (old computer) ?07:35
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jairalguien ke hable espaol?07:35
godonispawn:  sample: freeglut_display.c:54: glutSwapBuffers: Assertion `fgStructure.Window != ((void *)0)' failed.07:35
gnomefreak!es07:35
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:35
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onispawngod: just a sec. I will give you a template I always use for glut07:36
eedgeis 128kbps good for MP3s?07:36
eedgewell, is it OK...07:36
godonispawn:  Alright. Thanks.07:36
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eedgebecause, the setting up for lame encodes at like 320kbps.07:36
cozafter update I now have blue xubuntu during boot can I get rid of this and go back to ubuntu07:36
eedgeand the sizes are stupid.07:36
PinTognome freek where is the official guide?07:36
eedgemy media player only has 20gb :P07:36
eedgelol07:37
zoltanBenC: OK - rebooted with BIOS enabled APIC with MPS table v1.4. Boot process hung and kyb was frozen - had to hit reset. Last msg was:  [4294668.946000]  PNP: PS/2 controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M]  at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12  -  I've just noticed that I can update to 2.6.12-10-686-smp  -  should I, or only after we've sorted this out?07:37
PinToi need it07:37
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide07:37
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.07:37
PinTo!ubuntuguide07:37
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PinTodidnt werk07:37
TokenBadwhen trying to install a file and it says no zlib found..whats that mean?07:37
gnomefreakhold on pinto07:37
clastHappy Thanksgiving!07:37
cozhappy thainkgiving clast07:38
zoltanAh shit - wrong chatgroup07:38
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cozzoltan why is that?07:38
benplautw3rdness gone \o/07:38
gnomefreakPinTo, Official Ubuntu Guide07:38
gnomefreakshoot07:38
ubuntulnxis there any way to install mplayer without making it default player within firefox?07:38
cozafter blindy running update manager I now have "xubuntu" during boot can I get rid of t his?07:39
gnomefreakPinTo, http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/popularwebsites.htm go there and find the link that says official ubunt uguide07:39
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benplautbtw, anyone know why mono would be taking up about 30% of my ram as the day goes on, constantly getting bigger? i only have it set to index $HOME, which isn't very big\07:39
PinTothnk gnomefreak : )07:39
benplaut*only have beagle set...07:39
gnomefreakyw PinTo07:39
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zoltancoz : cos I was chatting to BenC on kernel but forgot to switch back there after re-boot07:41
cozI see07:41
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TokenBadok I fixed the zlib now it says something about the libxml2 headers now being found...whats that mean?07:41
cozOK Guys after blindly running update manager I now have the "Xubuntu" during boot can I change this?07:42
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binushow to install webmin with apt-get? apt-get install webmin didn't work07:42
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godonispawn:  You still there07:42
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gnomefreakcoz: install gnome-art than inside gnome art you will see a splashscreen downloader download and install the one you like07:43
Ck`Asalam Alay kom Zama roryanoo awo Girl Prnganoo07:43
onispawngod: yea sorry07:43
cozNo no not splash screen07:43
Ck`i need help07:43
godonispawn:  Alright.07:43
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cozthis is booting screen when everything is being set up07:43
Ck`how i will configure my Network ?07:43
aquariusI can't get the vncserver to start. The log says "_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2", which I think means that it's looking for a font server and not finding it. Does ubuntu use a font server by default?07:43
Ck`khar bachoo07:43
gnomefreakoh ok coz i dont think you can ive never done it07:44
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Ck`za darogh na wam .. i m using Fedora Core 4 . help me in that .. da spi zamongaoo stasoo ba hm kar razi khair de ghum ma kawa ajat bako razi07:44
cozwell update manager put it on therfore it can taken off so if anyone knows how plese let me know07:44
onispawngod: type /dcc get onispawn07:44
Whisky_How do I share a folder with someone? Like i want to share a folder /home/chimi/folder/ with another user07:44
godonispawn:  No such DCC Offer.07:44
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binusWhisky_: from lan?07:45
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Ck`yes07:45
Ck`from Lan .. da khar baheyaa from LAn07:45
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godonispawn:  Why don't you just put it on pastebin?07:46
onispawngod: yea Im going to do that now07:46
godonispawn:  Alright.07:46
Ck`Whisky_,  tara vel chee kanzal ma ko .. no tasoo mata da o wayeen che tasoo pa Kanzalooo pe ghay sa ?07:46
Dylan_why is Linux secure by default?  Isn't there any more securing to be done to assure yourself?07:47
binusCk`: what are u talking about?07:47
Ck`i m talking abt the Lan <---07:47
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Ck`how do i share a folder ?07:47
eedgewhats a good CD ripper apart from sound juicer?07:47
yassinehello07:47
naliotheedge: grip07:47
god!hug07:47
ubotuubotu gives god a hug.  There, there, is that better?07:47
PinTocan ne 1 tell me why "make-kpkg clean" doesnt work?07:47
godYes.07:47
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TokenBadok I fixed the zlib now it says something about the libxml2 headers now being found...whats that mean?07:47
eedgewould it be possible to run grip AND sound juicer at the same time?07:47
yassinewhat is the default root psssword?07:48
PinTobut "make clean" does07:48
naliothTokenBad: install libxml2*-dev07:48
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PinTodoes it matter07:48
naliothyassine: there is none07:48
eedgebecuase I cant seem to start two instances of sound juicer...07:48
Whisky_yassine: There is no default root password.07:48
naliothubotu: tell yassine about root07:48
redguy!tell yassine about root07:48
Ck`how do i share a folder ?07:48
Whisky_You set one when installing, this is not WinD0z307:48
redguydarn07:48
Ck`how do i share a folder ?07:48
redguywhoa, ubotu's kindof smart :-)07:48
yassinebut when I leave empty it does not let me log07:48
yassineis it root or Root or ROOT ?07:49
onispawngod: http://pastebin.com/43734007:49
gepatinoCk`, you could use nfs or samba07:49
gepatinoCk`, are the client machines running only windows?07:49
dark_shevsomebody can helpme with aceleration  3d in ati rx9550?07:50
Pegasos989yassine, you never log in as root07:50
onispawngod: it has some garbage output in the display function07:50
naliothyassine: it's "sudo"07:50
Pegasos989yassine, if you need to use root use sudo in terminal07:50
Dylan_is there any more securing of linux to be done besides installing it with all the default settings turned on?07:50
godonispawn:  Alright thanks.07:50
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onispawngod: have fun07:51
Pegasos989Dylan_, update ;D07:51
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yassineas a very beginner I do not understand what is sudo?07:51
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Dylan_Pegasos989, im being serious07:51
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Pegasos989Dylan_, and maybe install firestarter or some other firewall. That is all that I have done07:51
Dylan_Pegasos989, where is a Security Settings dialog or whatever....there's Group Policy n stuff in Windows.07:51
Dylan_Pegasos989, are you a linux n00b?07:51
ProN00bi got dual head with 2 graphic cards, first geforce4ti4200 on agp and an second is a shit-old ati on pci, now if i drag a video (3d too) window from the geforce to the ati screen it becomes black or blue (video works in x11 mode through) so i think overlaying of video might be fucked, can anyone help me with that ?07:51
naliothyassine: ubotu sent you a private message, if you read it, it will explain07:52
Pegasos989Dylan_, kind of, but I have asked here around several times that what to do and that is all that I was told to07:52
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yassineyeah, thanx07:52
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TokenBadone error after another07:53
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dark_shevpron00b i got dual head with 2 graphic cards, first geforce4ti4200 on agp and an second is a shit-old ati on pci, now if i drag a video (3d too) window from the geforce to the ati screen it becomes black or blue (video works in x11 mode through) so i think overlaying of video might be fucked, can anyone help me with that ?<<i need help with 3d acceleration07:53
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slideAnyone know what -ac does when used on X? "X :1 -ac"07:53
naliothTokenBad: it sounds like you need more -dev pkgs07:53
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cozafter update manage I now have "xubuntu" for the sett up boot screen can I get ubuntu back?07:54
onispawngod: oh yea.. the window is setup so (0,0) is the bottom left corner07:54
Dylan_Seveas, besides actually installing a linux operating system and leaving all default settings on (because im new to linux) ... is there any command line tweaking or security tweaking to do to assure myself that i wont get hit with anything?07:54
ProN00bno, dark_shev i rather need help with getting video overlay working on the ati07:55
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graabeinexcuse me, how do i check to see if ive got all dependencies covered for an app?07:55
TokenBadany nzb programs that work on ubuntu?07:55
cozafter having run the update manager I now have "Xubuntu" for the boot scrren. Can I get the ubuntu boot screen back?07:55
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devintCan anybody tell me why exactly ext3 never gets fragmented?07:55
naliothTokenBad: knzb works for me07:55
graabeinwhat is nzb?07:56
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TokenBadnalioth, get it from apt-get or from website?07:56
PinToTTFN07:56
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naliothTokenBad: it is only availabe from its homepage07:56
TokenBadok07:56
TokenBadcool07:57
naliothgraabein: it is a file format in xml that is used with nntp07:57
TokenBadit in english to i hope?07:57
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graabeinalright, nntp = ?07:57
Sgep!backports07:57
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.07:57
stjepanI am buying a new computer. What do you recommend? 64bit or 32bit?07:57
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graabeini looked it up on wikipedia07:58
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drcodehi all07:58
drcodehow I can start breezy xserver from console?07:58
drcodestartx still working?07:58
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naliothTokenBad: yes, it is07:59
dark_shevproN00b, do you can helpme with acceleration 3d in ati card?07:59
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TokenBadwhat was the program to handle bz2 files again?07:59
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djm62TokenBad: bunzip07:59
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SPCcrowhow can i "downgrade" my gcc from 4.0.2 to 2.95.x or 3.x?08:00
djm62TokenBad: or tar -xjvf08:00
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ProN00bno, dark_shev, but i think if you search for it on the ubuntu forums, there will be countless tutorials08:01
naliothSPCcrow: on a case by case basis?08:01
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SPCcrownalioth: I am trying to install MPlayer on Ubuntu, but it requirs gcc-2.95.x or gcc-3.x08:02
nassohow can i play all movies in a folder, recursively and randomly?08:02
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yassinehow to run rpm files?08:02
SPCcrownalioth: and the most updated on ubuntu is 4.0.208:02
TokenBadbah...knzb gives error on ./configure08:02
naliothSPCcrow: mplayer is available in the repos08:03
naliothubotu: tell SPCcrow about mplayer08:03
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dooglusis there a vnc viewer app somewhere in the default breezy install?08:04
TokenBadnalioth, knzb gives error on ./configure08:04
gepatinoyassine, you cant 'run' rpm files, you could install them08:04
onispawnyes the repo verion of mplayer is much eaiser than trying to compile it08:04
TokenBadthink its cause I am using gnome08:04
naliothTokenBad: join #kubuntu-offtopic please08:04
naliothdooglus: there is one installed by default in ubuntu08:05
yassinegepatino, how to install them please?08:05
naliothdooglus: i believe it's calle "remote desktop'08:05
dooglusnalioth: is it available from the menus?08:05
gepatinoyassine, you could use alien to convert the rpm file to a deb package08:05
nassothere has to be a program available that can make a playlist of videos adn shuffle it!!!08:05
dooglusnalioth: I've used 'remote desktop' to set up a vnc server in the past.  is it a client too?08:05
nassodamn linux! ;)08:05
gepatinoyassine, then do dpkg -i filename.deb08:05
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yassinegepatino, what is alien?08:06
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spudsehow can I mount a local directory in another local directory on the same filesystem?08:06
gepatinoyassine, or to install it in one step, do: alien -i package.rpm08:06
RedRosehow do i erase an alias entry?08:06
gepatinoyassine, its a program08:07
naliothdooglus: i believe so08:07
gepatinoyassine, to manage packages other than debs08:07
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yassinewher can I find it?08:07
RedRosehow do i erase an alias entry?08:07
SPCcrowhow can i tell if i am using hoary or warty?08:07
yassinebash: alien: command not found08:07
dooglusnalioth: I can't find it.  system->prefs->remote-desktop seems to be just setting up the server08:07
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RedRosehow do i erase an alias entry?08:08
viniciusRedRose, try "help alias"08:08
naliothdooglus: search synaptic for vnc viewer, i believe there is one installed by default08:08
dooglusRedRose: edit .bashrc .  "alias l='ls-l'" for instance08:08
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dooglusnalioth: it's installed.  but I can't find it in the menus08:08
gepatinoyassine, open a console or a terminal and type it08:08
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yassineI did that08:09
gepatinoyassine, the comand should bi something like: sudo alien -i package.rpm08:09
yassineit says bash: alien: command not found08:09
gepatinoyassine, in that case... try: sudo apt-get install alien08:09
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naliothyassine: what pkg are you trying to get?08:10
yassinerealplayer08:10
naliothubotu: tell yassine about realplayer08:11
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bunglehi all08:11
bungleanyone help me to play DVD's in Ubuntu 5.1008:11
naliothubotu: tell bungle about dvd08:11
SPCcrowubotu: tell SPCcrow about dvd08:12
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viniciusubout: tell vinicius about modem08:13
gepatinoubotu, tell gepatino about beer08:13
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gepatino;)08:13
naliothubotu: tell vinicius about msg the bot08:13
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eatnumber1ubotu: tell eatnumber1 about mkv08:14
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drcodehi all08:15
woozleboyhas anyone had any luck installing 5.1 on a sun ultra 2? The install cant detect any drives when I try it ( drives are working fine )08:15
drcodesomthing happend to ubuntu servers?08:15
drcodeI cant use apt-get08:15
drcodeit cant connect08:15
polpakdrcode: yeah, I had that problem earlier also08:15
polpakdrcode: I haven't tried in a while08:15
drcodek08:16
gepatinodrcode, have you tried with different repositories?08:16
drcodeno08:16
drcodewhat to put08:16
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drcodea min08:16
nassois it possible to play directories recursively with mplayer?08:16
drcodea min08:16
drcodelet me try again08:16
nassoor any other player?08:16
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polpaknasso: music or movies?08:16
lukinshow do i install a new font?08:17
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fatehazeIs there a difference between DDR ram and DDR-I?08:17
yassinegepatino, I installed it, now how to find it? It is not in the Applications menu08:17
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viniciusubotu: tell vinicius about modem08:17
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naliothvinicius: you need to be registered, then you can talk to ubotu via /msg08:18
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TheMuffenMannwhats up people08:19
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polpak!font install08:19
ubotuhmm... font install is mkdir /usr/local/share/fonts, drop the fonts in there.  cd /usr/local/share/fonts, then "mkttfdir" and "mkfontdir", then add a FontPath entry to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.08:19
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pirxhi! when i want to apt-insall certain packages ubuntu wants to read them from the CD. how do i make it always install from the net?08:19
hav0ki was trying to set up java like the wiki said, but now, firefox won't even run.08:19
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polpakpirx: comment the cd repo in /etc/apt/sources.lisg08:20
ingvildrpirx remove the cd entry from synaptic08:20
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polpakpirx: err sources.list08:20
bur[n] eranyone know how to get the windows key to work as a modifier key in gnome??08:20
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polpakhav0k: you must have done something wrong ;p08:20
pirxingvildr: ah thanks! i looked there before but missed that it was the very first line:)08:20
hav0kpolpak, i did exactly what the wiki said08:21
MaCaAnyone knows what are the list of possible values on can use to preesed kbdconfig during a live-cd initialization?08:21
hav0kand now ive gone back and tried to undo it, but that didnt work either08:21
TheMuffenMannanyone else here use fluxbox?08:21
nickrudburner, I use gconf to assign actions to the start key combos, is that what you're after?08:21
faisalhello i need help about Real Player Installation RPM Package in Ubuntu Linux08:21
faisalplz anyone can help me08:21
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yassinewhere can I find installed programs?08:21
hav0kfaisal, you downloaded a .rpm file?08:22
faisali tying several times to run RPM package in ubuntu but failed it will opened in archieve manager08:22
polpak!realplayer08:22
uboturealplayer is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:22
ingvildryassine: in synaptic08:22
yassinewhat is the equivalent of "Program Files"?08:22
faisalyes i downloaded xmms.rpm08:22
nickrudyassine, nothing :)08:22
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TheMuffenMannarchive manager doesnt support .rpm format08:22
naliothyassine: there is no equivalent08:22
hav0kfaisal, you have to apt-get install alien and change it to .deb08:22
faisalthen how i will run it08:22
naliothTheMuffenMann: rpm is not an archive. waht pkg are you wanting?08:22
yassineso how can I find my programs08:23
gepatinoyassine, alien is a command line tool08:23
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TheMuffenManni dont want anything, i was telling faisal08:23
faisali am new to linux plz can you tell me in detail08:23
naliothyassine: in the applications menu08:23
polpakyassine: installed programs can appear in many different parts of your file system. Typically the binary files will be either under /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin08:23
TheMuffenManni know its not an archive08:23
yassineI installed realplayer, where it is?08:23
gepatinoyassine, command line programs usually don't appear on the applications menu08:23
nickrudyassine, it should be in the menu, if it installed correctly08:23
polpakyassine: how did you install it?08:23
faisalxmms-1.2.10-1.i386.rpm --------------------------------- how to install it08:23
TheMuffenMannfaisal08:23
naliothfaisal: xmms is available in the repos, use synaptic to install it  System > admin > synaptic08:23
TheMuffenMannif you want xmms,08:23
nickrudfaisal, you can apt-get install xmms08:23
bur[n] ernickrud: i'm having problem doing that because when i hit the window key... it goes to "super_L" right away without allowing a key with it08:23
TheMuffenMannjust do08:23
gepatinoyassine, you were talking about realplayer.... sorry i thought it was about alien08:24
TheMuffenMannsudo apt-get install xmms08:24
polpak!xmms08:24
ubotumethinks xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)08:24
yassinesudo alien -i RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm08:24
hav0kyeah, that too08:24
gepatinoyassine, well... open a terminal and type realplayer08:24
faisalhi08:24
yassinedoesn't work08:24
TheMuffenMannwhen i used gnome, i had to use the eSound plugin for XMMS, but now that i use fluxbox, i have to use OSS for xmms08:25
faisalyes08:25
nickrudbur[n] er, I've seen that in the keyboard shortcuts pref; you need to use gconf-editor, and go to /apps/metacity. Type <Super> where you want the super key to be used08:25
bur[n] ernickrud: i'm usign a generic 104-key PC layout as well :\08:25
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rattowhere can i find a list of avaliable apt packages08:25
yassinesays bash: realplayer: command not found08:25
bur[n] ernickrud: that doesn't work if the win key isn't a modifier :\  nevermind08:25
TheMuffenManntry the ubuntu universe08:25
faisalOk guys , tell me only one thing how to play multimedia file sin ubuntu08:25
TheMuffenManndo a 'sudo apt-get update' first though08:25
nickrudbur[n] er, it works, I've been doing it for a long time08:25
bur[n] ernickrud: but your winkey is a modifier I'm sure :P08:25
polpakfaisal: movies you use totem, music use rythembox08:25
naliothratto: packages.ubuntu.com08:25
polpakfaisal: should be undere "Applications->Sound& Video"08:26
bur[n] ernickrud: i can do it on my other PC just fine, just not on this one... even if I edit gconf-editor as you suggest08:26
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fatehazeHow could are the windows emulators, speed wise?08:26
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polpakfaisal: If you want to play MP3 files please read the restricted formats Wiki08:26
faisaltotem is not playing any thing even mp3 files08:26
RedRoseif i belong to 2 groups, which do i have premissions over ?08:26
polpakfaisal: totem generally is for movies08:27
RedRosejcarter@wargames$ groups08:27
RedRoseemployees wheel08:27
faisalbut it playing08:27
fatehazeSay I'm looking to run an older game like Half-Life on pretty decent hardware, what percentage of normal framerate could I expect?08:27
faisalnot08:27
nickrudbur[n] er, take a look at prefs-keyboard; under Layout options, you'll find Super mapped to Win key (default). Check that if needed08:27
TheMuffenMannuse XMMS for music, and Totem for movies08:27
hav0khmm, ive never had luck with totem08:27
polpakRedRose : you have group permissions for either08:27
bur[n] ernickrud: i tried that too :\  oh well08:27
hav0ktotem-xine i think08:27
fatehazeAnywhere near 100%?08:27
TheMuffenMannyeh..i had to fuck with some shit to get it to work, but then i reformatted so that got lost08:27
nickrudbur[n] er, try swapping keyboards :)08:27
eatnumber1i like amaroK for music08:28
TheMuffenManni dont really watch movies on my machine anyways08:28
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polpakfatehaze: if you are using an Nvidia card, and have the proper 3d drivers loaded the performance is equivalent if you are using wine08:28
NaTeekhallo08:28
viniciusMy modem could not be detected by Ubuntu Hoary or Breezy just after instalation. I read some resources that tells to use setserial. However I don't know the UART of my modem. Can anyone help me?08:28
TheMuffenMannand i use gtk-gnutella for p2p08:28
polpakfatehaze: But wine is not an emulator08:28
linuxboyMy gnomebaker doesn't burn audio cds. I copy from one cd to another, it reads the first. Opens the tray, closes the tray and fails08:28
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TheMuffenManngnomebaker? what the fuck..thats just about the gayest name for a piece of software i have ever heard08:29
polpakTheMuffenMann: I use Rhythmbox for music08:29
yassineok, another linux distribution that is NOT for human beings :(08:29
TheMuffenMannsounds like one of those easy box ovens08:29
TheMuffenManneasy bake*08:29
polpakyassine: ?08:29
JemtGreetings. Does 'fdisk' display ALL partition types? My HDD contains an IBM Recovery Partition and it is not listed - And I'm not sure whether it is because I have removed it or it is just not listed08:29
regeyawhat's not for human beings, yassine?08:29
yassineI can't even know where software are installed08:30
fatehazeReally?  It's that good?08:30
polpakyassine: you installed it via RPM08:30
fatehazeWhat about modern games, such as HL2?08:30
yassinesudo alien -i RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm08:30
naliothTheMuffenMann: please respect us with your language choices08:30
HappyFoolJemt: i think it should display everything on a harddrive08:30
linuxboyTheMuffenMann: almost as bad as your nick :P08:30
RedRosepolpak:ok, because in groups, i'm under wheel, which is group 0... does that mean i have semi-root permissions?08:30
benplautbtw, anyone know why mono would be taking up about 30% of my ram as the day goes on, constantly getting bigger? i only have beagle set to index $HOME, which isn't very big\08:30
TheMuffenMannheh, fuck off noob08:30
JemtHappyFool: Not to good :)08:30
viniciusyassine, do you need to know where the software are installed?08:30
JemtHappyFool: I just lost my recovery partition then. Oh well - it only contained Windows :)08:31
regeyayassine: ?08:31
eatnumber1guys, whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when installing packages I get some weird error08:31
yassineyes08:31
naliothyassine: now "sudo dpkg -i filennem_of_converted_realplayer.deb08:31
yassineto run them08:31
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yassineto make links on the desktop08:31
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HappyFoolJemt: you must use sudo with it08:31
regeyayassine: why?08:31
yassine...08:31
polpakyassine: sudo alien -ql RealPlayer10GOLD08:31
HappyFoolJemt: as in, 'sudo fdisk -l'08:31
naliothyassine: you need to isntall the deb pkg first08:31
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regeyahoboy.08:31
naliothpolpak: yassine hasnt installed the deb alian made08:31
JemtHappyFool: I'm running as root :)08:31
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HappyFoolJemt: ah08:31
regeyayassine: "for human beings" != "you don't have to learn anything"08:31
skullb0xJust installed ubuntu, love it so far, one thing.. i have an NTFS SATA Drive in this box as well, how do i mount it08:31
eatnumber1its like a grey screen with text that fills up the screen08:31
RedRosepolpak:ok, because in groups, i'm under wheel, which is group 0... does that mean i have semi-root permissions?08:31
yurihello fellow ubuntuers. I need some help.08:32
HappyFoolJemt: then it should be showing all the partitions; guess you're out of luck08:32
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JemtHappyFool: Well, thanks, mate :)08:32
hav0kskullb0x, ive got the same problem08:32
regeyayassine: even Windows and OS X require *some* learing08:32
yassineI know08:32
skullb0xwould it be the same as mounting an IDE ?08:32
hav0kyuri, what?08:32
eatnumber1it says things like [   505.575220]  CR2: 000000002a3ab17008:32
TheMuffenMannquit askin questions and go read up on it fuck08:32
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yuriI am trying to access a shared folder on another computer running windows; when i go into networking i can see "windows network" but not the shared folder. I did not have this prob with 5.0408:33
RedRoseTheMuffenMann:Watch You Language... Read The Rules...08:33
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yassineTheMuffenMann, what is this irc channel for then?08:33
eatnumber1guys, whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when installing packages I get some weird error08:33
regeyaTheMuffenMann: if you can't be a decent human being, please go away.08:33
eatnumber1its like a grey screen with text that fills up the screen08:33
eatnumber1it says things like [   505.575220]  CR2: 000000002a3ab17008:33
yassineand what are you doing here08:33
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regeyahooray08:33
regeyayassine: TheMuffenMann is gone. :-)08:34
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eatnumber1any ideas?08:34
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faisalis there anybody can help me to install .rpm in ubuntu plzzzzzzzzzzzzz ????????????????????????/08:34
polpakyassine: don't bother with the rpm. just follow the wiki08:34
faisalWIKI WILL WHAT GUIDE ME08:35
polpakyassine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b08:35
regeyaah08:35
hav0kyuri, i do not know.  it works for me when i go under places>network servers.   i see the computers on the network and can look in each of their shared collections08:35
HappyFoolfaisal: please don't shout08:35
polpakfaisal: what rpm?08:35
HappyFool!tell faisal about alien08:35
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mjk64Mornin (or whatever your time of the day is :-)08:35
yuriits just blank inside when i open it... I cannot see the other comp08:35
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hav0khmmm08:35
faisalme boring with linux08:36
mjk64A stupid question: Where can I find the Ubuntu 5.10 installation manual?08:36
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Jemtmjk64: Try www.ubuntulinux.com08:36
hav0kyuri, it might have something to do with the way you set up the network...08:36
polpakmjk64: the getting started guide?08:36
eatnumber1anyone?08:36
polpakfaisal: ?08:36
eatnumber1any help?08:36
HappyFool!tell mjk64 about install08:36
regeya1:30pm on thanksgiving day (yes, I'm a USian)08:36
Jemt^^08:36
polpakeatnumber1: what was the question?08:36
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bunglehi all08:36
yuriill play around with it. im sure the problem is my own error.08:36
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eatnumber1polpak, whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when installing packages I get some weird error08:36
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eatnumber1polpak: its like a grey screen with text that fills up the screen08:37
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mjk64Jemt: Hmmm ... looks like www.ubuntulinux.org - where I have searchd hi and lo for it, to no avail. :-/08:37
regeyastupid mid-week holiday; nobody in my family is off today, so I'm fortifying my breezy machine with enhanced versions of media libs08:37
eatnumber1polpak: it says things like [   505.575220]  CR2: 000000002a3ab17008:37
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bunglemy ubuntu says it it doesnt recognise the archive type for .deb files?08:37
hav0kyuri, probably08:37
mjk64A-Haaa!08:37
Jemtmjk64: Give me a sec - I'll find it for you08:37
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polpakeatnumber1: sounds like a bad install disk? I haven't seen that before08:37
mjk64HappyFool: Thanks!08:37
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mjk64Jemt: Got it! HappyFool told me via ubotu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation08:37
HappyFoolbungle: what command is that?08:37
naliothbungle: you use dpkg on deb files. what are you wanting to do?08:37
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tonio_how would you delete a file that is read only08:38
Jemtmjk64: Great. Enjoy :)08:38
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tonio_or locked08:38
eatnumber1polpak: i checked the disc, and i even burned another at 2x... same thing08:38
HappyFoolerr, what command gives that error, i meant08:38
Jemttonio_: sudo rm file08:38
hav0keatnumber1, maybe you could look around the special install menu... maybe that has something to do with it.  i dont know08:38
tonio_thanks08:38
bunglewanting to play dvd and trying to install the libraries08:38
benplautdisk manager correctly reports that /home is a 13gb partition, and says that it has 5.0gb free, however when i sudo nautilus over to home and rt+click, properties, it says only 2.7gb are used... huh?!08:38
naliothubotu: tell bungle about dvd08:38
mjk64HappyFool: Now where the fsck can one find the installation manual from the many web pages? It's a mystery to me %-)08:38
yassinepolpak, it says :dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/local': directory is not empty08:38
mjk64Jemt: =)08:38
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naliothyassine: stop where you are08:38
HappyFoolmjk64: that's a bit of a catch-all page, i believe08:38
polpakyassine: ????08:38
naliothyassine: what exactly are you trying to do?08:38
onispawnhaha.. you dont want to delete that directory08:39
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eatnumber1havok: i did, and i tried installing it with a different kernel version08:39
tonio_how would i delete a directory08:39
onispawnthat is really bad08:39
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tonio_that has been locked08:39
yassinethis : sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb08:39
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eatnumber1havok: it diddent crash, but it froze at 85%08:39
polpaktonio_: If you are certain you want to.. rm -r directory08:39
HappyFooltonio_: what directory is it?08:39
hav0keatnumber1, ohh, ive actually heard of other people running into this same problem... i think on the message boards maybe08:39
mjk64HappyFool: Yes, seems so ... I had no problem finding the installation manual for Debian and thought it would be as easy with Ubuntu ...08:40
HappyFoolmjk64: how's Installation/386 look to you?08:40
yassineI am trying to follow the wiki to install realplayer08:40
SgepBye all; disconnecting for Thanksgiving08:40
HappyFoolmjk64: oh, that manual08:40
rsaIs there a protocol here to ask for help, or do I just jump in?08:40
hav0keatnumber1, so you might want to look around there08:40
HappyFoolum08:40
mjk64HappyFool: Checking it ...08:40
yassineand I got that message08:40
bunglei have the library file how do i use it?08:40
PatrikJohanssonHow can i change the owner a a folder???08:40
eatnumber1hav0k: ok, thx08:40
topylibungle: to play dvds on linux, you have to crack them first. for this, there is a libdvdcss library. see the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki08:40
tonio_it is just a folder that i accidently made while installing something08:40
tonio_now i cant delete it08:40
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topyli!tell bungle about restricted08:40
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polpaktonio_: is it not owned by you?08:41
mjk64HappyFool: Oh ... the manual is ... err ... well ... a *little* short. :-}08:41
tonio_Cannot move "/home/tonio...rapper-1.5" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder08:41
mjk64Okay, so I have to ask here, since it's not in the manual: What the fsck does "Configure a multiseat system" mean? Multi-user?08:41
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tonio_that is what it says08:41
yuriblah. stupid me. I put the wrong domain in. network works fine now08:41
mrtwisterhi.. is mysql5 available in any ports (backports) for 5.10?08:42
rsaDoes anyone in here know why I can't add more than 4 languages to my keyboard layout?08:42
bur[n] ernickrud: i lied... the gconf-editing does work for <super> but... I still can't get the "open home directory" as it doesn't seem to be in gconf-editor... any ideas?08:42
mjk64PatrikJohansson: chown <owner> <folder>08:42
yassineHelp please08:42
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polpakyassine: I believe that's just a warning, not an error08:42
polpakyassine: though I'm not sure why you would've gotten it08:42
ravensaanybody know how to get multichannel sound working on SB live card in Xmms?08:42
HappyFooltonio_: maybe use Applications -> System tools -> Run as different user, and run 'nautilus' as root08:43
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polpakHappyFool: he just left =p08:43
HappyFoolmjk64: at a guess, your guess is correct08:43
nickrudbur[n] er, a sec, I've got that mapped somewhere I think08:43
HappyFoolmjk64: you can always add users later08:43
HappyFoolpolpak: doh!08:43
mjk64HappyFool: Oh, I love guessing %-) (After all, I chose "expert", so I'm expected to know what a multiseat system is :-}08:44
yassineah, it is intalled, but I'd like to add it to the menu08:44
yassineor on the desktop08:44
topyliwhy oh why do people still use xmms, this i don't understand. i used to like it 7 or 8 years ago08:44
naliothyassine: check your menu, it may already be there08:44
HappyFoolmjk64: ah ;)08:44
ravensawhat should I use then?08:44
naliothyassine: if it isnt, right click on the sound and video menu and add it08:44
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iveqytopyli: so what do you prefer instead?08:45
krypto_hav0k, any luck mounting the other SATA drive?E08:45
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ravensaI'm used to winamp...08:45
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Tipsyupi yai yiii08:45
nickrudbur[n] er, I must have used the keyboard preference for that, it's mapped to a multimedia key.08:45
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iveqyravensa: sounds like xmms is best for u if u r used to winamp08:45
topyliravensa: i like rhythmbox. if you want an xmms kind of basic player, i would use beep-media-player or maybe muine08:45
rsaHow may I receive assistance?08:46
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krypto_whats a p2p program that uses the same network as bearshare for Linux?08:46
mjk64HappyFool: Googling for this sentence revealed package description for multiseat-udeb, which says: "This udeb does base configuration for a multiseat (multiple simultaneous users) system."08:46
mossyhi08:46
polpakyassine: applications->system tools->application menu editor08:46
Tipshey dudes, how about a "music creation" distribution? anyone knows?08:46
HappyFoolmjk64: hmm08:46
topylikrypto_: gtk-gnutella08:46
vekiwhere I can find codecs for video playback for Ubuntu Hoary for powerpc?08:46
mossyhow do i remove kdm so i can use the standard x one?08:46
HappyFoolmjk64: some sort of thin-client thing08:46
naliothrsa: ask a question08:47
yassineok, I got it, thank you all :)08:47
ravensaI'm willing to try new stuff... wil the 5.1 audio work in rythmbox?08:47
polpakrsa: ask your question .. someone will answer08:47
mossyhow do i remove kdm so i can use the standard x one?08:47
bunglecant open .deb files08:47
yassineIt was a difficult beginning :)08:47
mjk64HappyFool: Sheesh, 246 Google hits for "multiseat system" vs. 58,300 hits for "multiuser system". I guess "multiseat" is African. %-)08:47
HappyFoolmjk64: err, that was supposed to be a question08:47
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rsaHow do I add more than 4 languages to my keyboard layout?08:47
polpakyassine: glad to help08:47
Tipshey ravensa do you create music with some distribution of linux?08:47
yuriNetwork Printing Q: there is a printer attached to a win2k comp on my network. When I go into sys>admin>Printing>add Network printer it lets me choose the other comp but there is nothing under the "printers"08:47
topylimossy: apt-get install xdm, and apt-get remove kdm08:47
nickrudbur[n] er, it's under /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/keybindings08:47
mossythx08:47
SPCcrowis there a command with apt-get that will install all the suggested packages as well?08:47
polpakyassine: you should read the getting started guide08:47
naliothSPCcrow: use aptitude instead of apt-get08:48
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yassineyes08:48
rsaAfter I add the fourth language, the Add button goes dim08:48
mossycoudlnt find xdm08:48
mossyis what is says08:48
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nalioth!info xdm08:49
ubotuxdm: (X client - xdm), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.99.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 556 kB08:49
ravensaI just want the front and back channels playing08:49
naliothmossy: enable your universe and multiverse repos08:49
naliothubotu: tell mossy about repos08:50
polpakyuri: first make sure your firewall is allowing traffic from your lan08:50
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mossyok08:50
mossywill try08:50
mossyi got kubuntu08:50
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bunglehow do i open a .deb file please?08:50
polpakyuri: you need to allow certain ports in order to browse the network08:50
mossysorry wrong window08:51
polpakbungle: you generally don't08:51
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polpakbungle: you install it08:51
yurii can already browse the network, i just fixed that prob08:51
bunglehow polpak?08:51
polpakbungle: a deb file is a package for installing software08:51
bunglesays archive type is not supported08:51
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polpakbungle: you don't open it via the archive manager08:51
polpakbungle: you use dpkg08:51
naliothbungle: what are you trying to install? there is nothing you should be using a deb for to get dvd working08:51
szronikI can't do a apt-get install build-essential because of package dependencies, what gives?08:51
bunglehow?08:52
aftertafbungle dpkg -i installs it08:52
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aftertafszronik: whats the error?08:52
naliothaftertaf: polpak: hold up. something makes no sense with bungle08:52
bunglethe libdvdcss file has downloaded as a .deb file08:52
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[DK] A-TorstenI have a c and a d drive... Ive have deletede all on my d... Is it posible for me to installe ubuntu on this, or will it be installed with windows on c ?08:52
faisalhi08:52
naliothbungle: then you missed something08:52
bunglelike what?08:52
naliothubotu: tell bungle about libdvdcss208:52
Counthow do I have a windows Driver CD to work on Ubuntu?08:52
aftertafCount: are you sure you need to?08:52
szronikaftertaf: The following packages have unmet dependencies: ...libc6-dev...g++...make...dpkg-dev08:52
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shibahi08:53
aftertafszronik: have you enabled universe, or messed with sources.list?08:53
topylibungle: don't download stuff from the web and try to install it like windows users. just use apt-get08:53
polpakyuri: did you choose a windows printer SMB ?08:53
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szronikaftertaf: sources.list - is this for repositories? If so, yes. I don't know what universe is.08:53
yuriyes I did08:54
naliothubotu: tell szronik about repos08:54
mcjerryi tried updating to latest kernel from vanilla source. I have two sata hard drives, sda and sdb, the cd install sees both drives and can access both drives, after compiling and installing new kernel, i can see both drive, but cannot access the 2nd drive. What is wrong?08:54
krypto_anyone know how to mount a SATA drive containig a windows partition on it?08:54
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krypto_its NTFS08:54
yuriunder "Host" it gives me an option to choose the right comp. after i select it, there is nothing under the "printer" tab08:54
naliothubotu: tell krypto_ about ntfs08:55
aftertafthx nalioth  ;)08:55
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bunglehow do i use apt get?08:55
polpakyuri: then my guess is that your user isn't allowed access to the printer08:55
infraliteapt-get install foobar08:55
infralitedon't forget to sudo!08:55
nubuntuevery time i start up VLC I get the little alert "cannot set locale to "." Quite annoying, and it should be easy to remove, but I cant find anything08:55
mcjerrykrypto_: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions08:55
aftertafbungle: you can type man apt,08:55
bungleok thanks infralite08:55
naliothubotu: tell bungle about synaptic08:55
topylibungle: oh my. please read some documentation. like system -> help08:56
aftertaf!tell bungle about apt08:56
yuribut its the administrator login of that comp...08:56
aftertafbungle: and read those links from us (from ubotu...)08:56
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mcjerrykrypto_ the 5.10 starter guide howto will help you08:56
bungleI am having no luck sorry guys08:56
rsaQuestion: How can I add more than 4 languages to keyboard layout?08:56
bungleI only want to play a dvd :-)08:56
bunglewhy is it so difficult?08:57
polpakbungle: well you need to learn to install programs08:57
bungleI know08:57
topylibungle: i see what you mean. but you need to learn how to install stuff in ubuntu08:57
polpakbungle: read the getting started guide08:57
szronikbungle: Well, I'm trying to get my DVD player to work with my Graphics card in order to watch a DVD :P08:57
naliothbungle: join #kubuntu-offtopic please08:57
polpakbungle: it will help08:57
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szronikbungle: Regular DVD player, not computer.08:57
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orralahello ppl08:57
aftertafbungle: join like nalioth said, he'll help you with less clutter ;)08:57
FireRabbitDoes anyone remember if the "restricted" section is enabled by default on Breezy or not?08:57
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polpakFireRabbit: I don't think it is08:58
polpakFireRabbit: you have to enable it08:58
FireRabbitok, thanks08:58
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mossyerr08:58
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mossyit didnt work08:58
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polpakmossy: ??08:59
orralaanybody can help me with mono?08:59
sklavwhat up08:59
sklav;)08:59
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mossychange from kdm to x one08:59
rsacan someone help me install languages onto my keyboard?08:59
topylimossy: did you install xdm and uninstall kdm?08:59
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bigospanish  channel ???08:59
mossyyes08:59
orralasometimes mono turns off suddenly (sorry about my english)09:00
siestehello09:00
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mossykdm still installed09:00
mossytho09:00
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mcjerrycan someone help me with a kernel compile issue?09:00
nickrudmossy, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm , and select xdm09:00
topylimossy: can't be if you uninstalled it. it must still be running in memory. just kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace09:00
orralafor ex. when i try to import a visualNET project09:00
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siestei have a canon pixma MP110 but i don't know to mahe it working. some body can help me09:00
mossyok09:01
mossybbiab09:01
mossy:P09:01
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benplautwhat is ~/.local?09:01
RedRoseis there any way for ubuntu to interact with my cell phone(Motorola)?09:01
nickrudbenplaut, it's where gnome (and kde?) keeps your custom menu info09:02
topylibenplaut: ~ means your home directory. so ~/.local is a hidden file (see the dot?) in your home dir09:02
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RedRoseis there any way for ubuntu to interact with my cell phone(Motorola)?09:02
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aftertafReddoes it have bluetooth?09:02
benplautthanks nickrud09:03
rsacan someone help me install languages onto my keyboard?09:03
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RedRosenope, it's a USB Cord09:03
b3nwis it possible to make it so my screen doesn't go black every 3 mins when on battery power?, i have xscreensavor settings all set to off.09:03
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nickrudbenplaut, brain fart here: custom mime-type <---> application relations, rather09:03
aftertafb3nw: check bios settings too.09:03
b3nwmmm09:03
soundrayrsa, do you mean international layouts?09:03
aftertafRedRose: no idea then09:03
aftertaftry apt-cache search motorola09:03
nubuntuevery time i start up VLC I get the little alert "cannot set locale to "." Quite annoying, and it should be easy to remove, but I cant find anything09:03
topyliRedRose: bluetooth and infrared are your best bets. almost no phone works with their proprietary cable connections09:03
Tha_Hillmaybe tru infrared09:03
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rsasoundray, yes09:04
soundrayrsa, are you running Gnome?09:04
WengI'm setting up an ubuntu deployment server on an internet-isolated network, and I'd like to have access to the entire package repository. First, how the hell big is it, and second, what's the easiest way to grab the whole damned thing?09:04
rsasoundray, yes09:04
aftertafapt-proxy i believe09:04
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rsasoundray, I am able to add 3 in addition to English, but I need more09:04
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benplautstop it!09:05
benplautstop it, i say!09:05
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benplauti've deleted you 4 times, now go away!09:05
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WengThis server is losing it's damn mind, it's already loading 2 gigs of stuff into RAM on every boot, and if I can fit it, the damned package repository is next.09:05
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soundrayrsa, which config tool are you using?09:06
topylibenplaut: what are you talking about? if there are users who bother you, just /ignore them09:06
benplauttopyli: no, a 3gb file :P09:06
topyliheh09:06
rsasoundray, System->Preferences->Keyboard09:06
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benplaut...and there are about four .Trashes to deleted it from :/09:06
szronikI get the following error when trying a repository fix: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_1%3a0.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl', which is also in package libofx0c10209:07
ZugwrackHey everyone...where do I set the default terminal window width? I looked under the profile settings and made changes to color, etc. but didn't see an option to set term width09:07
krypto_im ubuntu i read the sites for mounting NTFS volumes.. Except i get an error saying mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,09:07
soundrayrsa, What happens if you try and add more than three?09:07
cocoxhi guys, im trying to format a floppy disk by shell scripts... i make a "sudo mkfs /media/floppy0" everything seems to be allright but when i try to mount the disk using "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" gives me an error ... by the way my floppy disk is new.. plz help09:07
ajmitch_szronik: yes, known problem in universe for hoary->breezy :(09:07
topyliZugwrack: does apt-get -f install work?09:07
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rsasoundray, the Add button dims09:07
ajmitch_szronik: you can remove it, upgrade, and then reinstall gnucash09:07
aftertafszronik: youll need to type this: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3_all.deb09:08
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mossyerr09:08
mossystil no luck09:08
mossyinstalled xdm09:08
mossyremoved kdm09:08
Zugwracktopyli: Huh? Fresh install..just trying to adjust the terminal window width?09:08
mossyxdm did nothing09:08
EnquestOk I'm trying to play a file form vrtnieuws.be http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/nieuws/overzicht/nnII_nieuws_politiek/index.shtml but firefox or mplayer crashes after 5 seconds it plays... Can somebody check if he has this too?09:08
aftertafszronik: you get that?09:09
szronikaftertaf: Trying it now...09:09
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linuxboyMy gnomebaker doesn't burn audio cds. I copy from one cd to another, it reads the first. Opens the tray, closes the tray and fails...09:09
aftertafhehe ok09:09
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topyliZugwrack: sorry, i was talking to somebody else, my tab completion must have failed me :)09:09
Zugwracktopyli: NP...09:09
aftertafszronik: you gone to dapper?09:09
Wengoh, sweet. You can connect to the mirrors with FTP :P09:10
soundrayrsa, I can reproduce it, but I don't know why that happens.09:10
aftertafWeng: oh yeah :)09:10
Zugwracktopyli: Do you have a quick reply to my query?09:10
rsasoundray, I see, should I report this as a bug of some sort?09:10
topyliZugwrack: normally though, you can pass something like --width and --height commands to all X programs09:10
soundrayrsa, do you have just one physical keyboard?09:10
WengIt's gonna be a PITA to sync this system back up to the current release09:10
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rsasoundray, yes09:10
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szronikaftertaf: dapper?09:10
rsasoundray, its a laptop kezboard09:10
mossysoooo whgy didnt xdm work?09:10
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WengSince we don't have internet access anywhere on the production floor (security shit)09:10
mossywhat have i missed?09:10
rsakeyboard09:10
Zugwracktopyli: Ok thanks..will look at the shortcut icon settings..thanks!09:11
Enquestand?09:11
szronikaftertaf: It didn't work, I think that gnucash is the culprit.09:11
nick_off topic: what is bluetooth?09:11
soundrayrsa, is the base layout US?09:11
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sdogwhen trying to log in I get stuck on nautilius .. , looks liks .. where do I disable that ?09:11
Zugwrackclear09:11
topyliZugwrack: no, my irc client (like yours probably)  just have tab completion so i don't have to write complete weird nicks :)09:11
ajmitch_aftertaf: szronik did say it was libofx2, not firefox :)09:11
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FireRabbitOkay, I redid this page and it's actually accurate now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:11
WengMeh, the whole system is going on a cart anyway, I'll just wheel it into the elevator and plug into the public network jacks in the lobby.09:11
aftertafszronik: really? weird. /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3_all.deb09:11
cocoxhi guys, im trying to format a floppy disk by shell scripts... i make a "sudo mkfs /media/floppy0" everything seems to be allright but when i try to mount the disk using "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" gives me an error ... by the way my floppy disk is new.. plz help09:11
szronikajmitch_: Yeah, so you say I need to uninstall and reinstall Gnucash?09:11
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gsnedderswhat permissions would I need to set on /var/www to give the user "geoffrey" write access?09:11
rsasoundray, I believe so.  It's set to Generic 104-key PC, with US English as default09:12
ajmitch_aftertaf: why do you suggest firefox, when the problem is not related?09:12
ajmitch_szronik: or you can do the --force-overwrite with libofx209:12
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aftertafi didnt, i copied and pasted.... or thought i did.09:12
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anton_hello09:12
FireRabbitthat procedure is *way* too complicated though09:12
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FireRabbitthat whole thing should be automated09:12
siestehey nobody knows how to install a canon pixma mp110 on my laptop ?09:12
mossyerrrr09:13
aftertafajmitch_: hmm. i got pwned by my irc client and my clipboard ;)09:13
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anton_can someone past the original sources.list file for breezy bagger for me?09:13
mossyhow do i removed kdm and install xdm? :P09:13
aftertafFireRabbit: which one? :P09:13
szronikajmitch_: Something is really not working too well. I read the Adding Repositories WIKI and I edited the sources.list accordingly and I keep getting errors witha lmost every apt-get I do.09:13
FireRabbithuh?09:13
anton_I edited it and I lost my backup09:13
aftertaf!tell anton_ about sources09:13
FireRabbitthe whole procedure of insalling and enabling an acellerated X video driver should be automated09:13
aftertafFireRabbit: yeah09:13
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anton_thank you09:14
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londonboi2k3oooo, just discovered Gaim can use irc ;)09:14
aftertafbut it seems that us. archives are down right now...... just in case ;)09:14
aftertaflol londonboi2k309:14
ajmitch_szronik: that problem you reported is something known, it wasn't quite fixed right before release09:14
WengDon't look down to me :P09:14
mossyno help?09:14
topylimossy: try something like "sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager"09:14
benplautlondonboi2k3: it works, but xchat still is so much better for the purpose ;)09:15
szronikajmitch_: Yeah but I just changed the sources.list and I have "Couldn't stat source package..." about 8 times09:15
londonboi2k3its cool, since I used to use xchat just to log on to irc, and use msn09:15
szronikajmitch: Need to find a new sources.list for my distro.09:15
rsasoundray, the Help says something about a Keyboard Switcher Manual, but I don't know where such a manual exists09:15
ajmitch_szronik: because after you change sources.list, you need to do apt-get update09:15
benplautextracting a 600mb ISO from a bz2... this is going to take forever :/09:15
topyliszronik: you didn't run apt-get update?09:15
mcjerrycan anyone help me with a sata drive issue?09:15
aftertaf!tell szronik about sources09:15
krypto_dmesg | tail says device :sda2 is not an NTFS-fs nor Fat Filesystem.. is there any way inside Linux to find out what file system it is09:15
szronikI didn't run apt-get update :) You're right, ajmitch, topyli.09:15
mossyOK09:16
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mossyThere is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager09:17
mossy(/usr/bin/startkde). Nothing to configure.09:17
mossymossy@MrMoss:~$09:17
whitynzAnyone got a howto: on how to resize a reiserFS drive... I spent ages last night trying to do it09:17
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mcjerrykrypto_ boot to install cd and let partitioner setup tell you then reboot without saving changes09:17
TokenBadis there a way to search a system for a file on ubuntu?09:17
szronikajmitch: I did a 'sudo apt-get remove gnucash' and I got "gnucash-common...depends gnucash but it is nto gonig to be installed. E: Unmet dependencies...09:18
_native_TokenBad; yes places-> search09:18
cocoxhi guys, im trying to format a floppy disk by shell scripts... i make a "sudo mkfs /media/floppy0" everything seems to be allright but when i try to mount the disk using "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" gives me an error ... by the way my floppy disk is new.. plz help09:18
soundrayrsa, sorry, can't find that either.09:18
naliothkrypto_: "sudo fdisk -l"09:18
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_native_TokenBad; or slocate or find09:18
soundrayrsa, maybe it's vaporware...09:18
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TokenBadthanks _native_09:18
rsasoundray, yes, perhaps09:19
_native_TokenBad; np09:19
mcjerrynalioth, after I updated to new kernel, i can no longer enable sdb1 which is 2nd sata drive, why?09:19
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naliothmcjerry: i know nothing about kernels, is your fstab set up correctly?09:19
topyliszronik: so, add gnucash to the command line. apt-get remove gnucash gnucash-common09:20
soundrayrsa, I think I found it, it's actually called Keyboard Indicator Manual09:20
_native_mcjerry; did you do a custom config or did you use the stock ubuntu config?09:20
mcjerryyes, all drives work correctly 2.6.12-9-38609:20
mcjerry kernel09:20
mossytopyLi: any luk?09:20
soundrayrsa, under Help in the panel applet context menu.09:20
TokenBadhmm09:20
TokenBadits not finding the file09:20
maddashI'm using kernel 2.6.12-9-386 right now; can someone guide me through upgrading to 2.6.12-10-686? I've already installed the necessart packages; I just can't get LILO to boot to the newer kernel...09:20
topylimossy: what do you mean? i'm always lucky :)09:21
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_native_maddash; lilo why aren't you using grub fool? ;] 09:21
mossylol09:21
mossyi did that, said nothing to configure09:21
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Wenggrub? real men use obscure-ass setups that require syslinux09:21
_native_maddash; run lilo /sbin/lilo09:22
mcjerry_native_ i imported the cofiguration of the running kernel09:22
topylimossy: it means you only have one session manager installed. which, i guess, is xdm09:22
maddash_native_: b/c installing grub always affects my MBR,  instruct it to install to /dev/sda509:22
_native_maddash; did you update the lilo.conf ?09:22
mossybut i got kdm installed09:22
gnome_awaymaddash,  grub isnt booting to the new kernel on my system either09:22
mossyaswell09:22
mossycuz xdm wont load09:22
mjk64What the hell is the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" (both some 2.4 kernels, I guess)? The installer offers me these and a linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 kernel.09:22
_native_mcjerry; ahh what kernel version did you upgrade 2?09:22
maddash_native_: yeah; I edited the fields, "image=...." under "default=linux"09:22
topylimossy: i have no idea why kdm is showing up _if_ you uninstalled it _and_ have killed the kdm process09:22
mcjerry_native_: follwed howto trying to update to 2.6.1409:22
rsasoundray, I'm sorry, could you tell me how to get there?09:23
szroniktopyli: why do I need to write gnucash gnucash-common?09:23
topylimossy: it's practically impossible :)09:23
woozleboyhas anyone installed 5.1 on a sun ultra 2? Im getting a disk not found error during the install.09:23
_native_maddash; but did you run /sbin/lilo afterwards?09:23
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topyliszronik: well, if apt says you have to uninstall both, then do it09:23
maddash_native_: i also changed the "initrd=..." field - the only prob here is that LILO doesn't display any boot menu, so it's impossible for me to tell if my modifications to lilo.conf had any effect09:23
maddash_native_: no; I'll get to that now.09:23
mossyright, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here09:23
soundrayrsa, right click panel, Add-to-panel, scroll down to Utilities, select Keyboard Indicator, click Add.09:23
gnome_away_native whats the fix for the new kernel under grub?09:23
topyliszronik: you might as well file a bug because that's what it is09:24
asymptonicqeqe: I just upgraded a laptop from hoary to breezy.  Afterward, Firefox has no/invisible fonts, so no text appears in web pages or the user interface.09:24
_native_mcjerry; the latest kernel has new options so you may need to go back and add the missing config option.09:24
asymptonicAny ideas?09:24
soundrayrsa, right click the new item in the panel, select Help.09:24
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szroniktopli: Okay, thank you.09:24
_native_maddash; thats why, you must run /sbin/lilo after changes to lilo.conf to update it.09:24
szroniktopyli: removing gnucash and gnucash-common caused gstreamer setup (?)09:24
mcjerry_native_ what config options pertain to sata drive detection?09:24
mossytopli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here09:24
_native_maddash; but it may be something else09:25
topylisx09:25
maddash_native_: "lilo /sbin/lilo" isn't going through; the output tells me about the proper usage of "lilo" cmd.09:25
topyliszronik: this is very very strange. you system must be very messed up09:25
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soundrayrsa, there's nothing relevant in there, though.09:25
_native_mcjerry; exactly idont know off the top of my head but there is the help option for everthing in the kernel config.09:25
rsasoundray, thanks, fuond it09:25
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rsasoundray, right, just looked through it09:25
szroniktopyli: It says "Setting up...libmms, gstreamer, slib" etc.09:25
ajmitch_szronik: that's fine09:26
szroniktopyli: I DID attempt to install the codecs a few days ago but it didn't work09:26
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_native_maddash; no run /sbin/lilo NOT lilo /sbin/lilo ;] 09:26
WengDid I give you permission to skip the ZSNES package?09:26
ajmitch_szronik: they didn't complete successfully before, so the config step is running now09:26
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WengNo, I certainly did not09:26
mcjerry_native_ thanks will try recompile, reinstall new kernel.09:26
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WengZSNES is the most important thing in the entire damned repository09:26
szronikajmitch: Ah, ok :)09:26
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_native_mcjerry; your welcome. ;p09:26
topyliszronik: do apt-get -f install with no packages as arguments, and let it work itself out09:26
bolshAnyone successfully ubunting on a mac mini?09:26
soundrayrsa, you'd probably have to change the source to allow more keyboard groups.09:27
mcjerry_native_ after install new kernel, ran nvidia driver install.....everything but drives work09:27
bolshWith the USB keyboard & mouse?09:27
Wengbolsh, if I were, I wouldn't admit it.09:27
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Weng:P09:27
bolsh:p09:27
topyliheh09:27
intmainvoidHmm09:27
ZugwrackHow do I get ubuntu to read changes I made to fstab? Other than reboot of course...09:27
intmainvoidAlright I need help09:27
bolshZugwrack: mount -a09:27
_native_hey i have some great links to kicka** podcasts anyone want some?09:27
bolshZugwrack: Unless it was changes09:27
mcjerry_native_ could not startx with new drivers in 2.6.12-909:27
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rsasoundray, ya, sounds like it.  Sounds weird, considering Debian doesn't have this issue09:27
topyliZugwrack: remount everything09:27
bolshfstab gets read by mount when it's called09:27
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Zugwrackbolsh: thanks...I just edited and saved it with vi09:28
Almindorwhy is mozilla package broken?09:28
intmainvoidI was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:28
_native_mcjerry; all i can say is "do over!" ;] 09:28
aftertafintmainvoid: installed build-essential?09:28
bungle!dvd09:28
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl09:28
soundrayrsa, does it not? That's interesting. Maybe you can steal the binary from a Debian package.09:28
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Zugwracktopyli: Ok will refresh my memory using man mount to see how to refresh the fstab read...09:28
bungle!dvd factoid info09:28
ubotubungle: I don't know, could you explain it?09:28
intmainvoidaftertaf:  Yeah09:28
mcjerry_native_, if new kernel install does not fix prob this time, how boot to old kenel and startx without reinstall?09:28
mossytopli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here09:28
maddash_native_: cool lilo executed fine; how do I get it to display a boot menu?09:28
MarcNAnyone get handbrake to work on ubuntu?   Just adding the private repository for debian/sid doesn't cut it.09:29
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_native_maddash; have you not restarted yet?09:29
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topyliZugwrack: this is safe only if you don't have many users logged in and all of them writing to your filesystems09:29
Almindormozilla package anyone?09:29
Almindoris it me only?09:29
MarcNhandbrake is a nice gui for dvd ripping.  Works fine in debian/sid09:29
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rsasoundray, good idea.  I'll see what I can dig up.  I appreciate your help. Thank you09:29
soundrayrsa, cheers.09:29
maddash_native_: gotcha09:29
Zugwracktopyli: NP no just a standalone macintosh with me attempting to learn Linux09:30
aftertafMarcdunno... tried acidrip?09:30
_native_mcjerry; you want to get to a shell and comment new kernel entry in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.09:30
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_native_mcjerry; can you get to the shell ?09:30
gnome_awaycan i go into my /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the kernel only?09:30
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mcjerryyes, grub still list old entry as boot option and can get to a shell, but cannot startx on old kernel09:31
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_native_mcjerry; crap!09:31
mcjerry_native_ yup09:32
mossytopli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here09:32
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_native_mcjerry; get to the shell and reinstall the old kernel09:32
intmainvoidSo can anyone help me here?09:32
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intmainvoidI was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:33
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gnome_awaynew kernel is in my grub menu.lst but wont boot to it is there a way to fix this?09:33
mcjerry_native_ will try that and also try keeping stock nvidia drivers without installing new drivers.09:33
_native_mcjerry; do apt-cache search kernel    and install the one that you had.09:33
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mcjerryok09:33
soundraygnome_away, is the new kernel in the first section starting with 'title'?09:33
naliothintmainvoid: isntall build-essential09:33
gnome_awayyes soundray09:34
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soundraygnome_away, and do you have a line 'default 0' near the top?09:34
gnome_awaysoundray, right under "end default options"09:34
_native_mcjerry; or apt-cache search kernel|grep 2.6.09:34
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intmainvoidnalioth:  not working. I already have the newest build-essential09:34
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naliothintmainvoid: then idk what it could be09:35
gnome_awaysoundray,  yes default 009:35
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mcjerry_native_ 'do over'd' tis morning, updating to new kernel now, will be awhile09:36
soundraygnome_away, is the hiddenmenu line commented?09:37
_native_mcjerry; cool09:37
gnome_awayits commented out09:37
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gnome_awayjust checked again yes soundray  its commented out09:37
soundraygnome_away, when you boot and see the grub menu, is the first entry highlighted?09:37
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gnome_awayyes but its not ubuntu its sarge i was gonna also see how to change boot order while i was in here09:38
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sscan anybody help with samba09:38
sklavhey guys09:38
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intmainvoidCan anyone else help me?09:38
Vertyg0hi09:38
mossybbuab09:38
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Vertyg0how to work with .patch files ?09:39
sklavis there a reason why runlevel 3 has graphical interface?09:39
sklavis this intentional?09:39
nickrudsklav, 2,3,4 & 5 are all identical in ubuntu09:39
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sklavnot exactl6y09:39
gnome_awayhoild on let me see how many kernel entries i have09:39
sklav2 3 4 have 6 tty while 5 only has 1 tty09:40
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soundraygnome_away, if you leave it to update-grub to manage your boot menu, it should automatically boot the most recent kernel.09:40
ssdoes anybody know why samba doesn't start automatically in breezy?09:40
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sklavmy question is why does runlevel 3 have a graphical interface09:40
soundraygnome_away, sarge or breezy or whatever.09:40
gnome_awayhow do i use update grub?09:40
_native_http://www.binrev.com/radio/ great!09:40
sklavits common knowlodge that runlevel 3 usually has no X09:40
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soundraygnome_away, enter 'update-grub'09:40
intmainvoidI was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:40
gnome_awayok brb09:41
_native_ss; yes you must enable it in the system->admin-> services09:41
soundraygnome_away, but it runs automatically when you install one of the linux-image-2.* kernels.09:41
sklavintmainvoid, make sure you install required gcc packages09:41
soundraygnome_away, sorry, sudo update-grub09:41
intmainvoidsklav:  I have all of the gcc. I'm a C++ programmer.09:41
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gnome_awayi ran it just now and it found the new one im gonna try to reboot09:41
slideIs there any kind of xsudo program?09:41
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ChousukeErr.09:41
nickrudsklav, that's a redhatism, I believe09:42
slideThat asks for the password in a dialogue box?09:42
ChousukeMy log of this channel is 300MB in size.09:42
soundrayslide, gksudo09:42
slidethanks09:42
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mjk64soundray: Can you tell me the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" the installer offers me?09:42
Chousukestop speaking, people!09:42
Chousuke:(09:42
gnome_awaybefore i reboot how do i change defaul os to ubuntu?09:42
sklavnickrud, bsd suse all have it also even debian has it09:42
naliothChousuke: use bzip2 on it, that'll take it down a few waist sizes09:42
nickrudsklav, no, debian does not09:42
_native_gnome_away; easy09:42
sklavinit 3 on my debian system has no X running09:42
soundraygnome_away, man grub-reboot09:43
sklavand i never modified it09:43
Chousukenalioth: yeah, I know09:43
gnome_awayok ty09:43
Chousukerm -rf is even more effective :P09:43
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naliothChousuke: i archive mine once a week09:43
ChousukeI don't need to keep #ubuntu logs :/09:43
_native_later guys its turkey time!!! :-)09:44
soundrayChousuke, ll lv t th vwls t sv spc09:44
Chousukeauto-log is just being evil :)09:44
Chousukeanyway.09:44
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fdsdferrr09:44
Chousukehow can I stop a log in irssi ;P09:44
naliothChousuke: disable logging09:44
sklavcheck the preferences09:44
fdsdfstill wont work09:44
Chousuke /log close #ubuntu.log doesn't work :/09:44
fdsdfxdm wont load09:44
naliothChousuke: you can disable loggins in the config file09:44
ChousukeI want to log some channels.09:45
gnome_awaygrub-reboot man page was not helpfull at all it says the "entry number" is the order well no entry numbers in grubs menu list09:45
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ss_native_: Thank you very much09:45
sklavgnome_away, default 009:45
sklavis the first entry09:45
sklavdefault 1 is 2nd entry and so on09:45
naliothChousuke: you can disable logging for certain channels, irssi is very configurable09:46
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dudewenas?09:46
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Vertyg0choudesh: just type /log off in this windows09:46
Chousukenalioth: I know.09:46
soundraygnome_away, 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl'09:46
gnome_awaysklav,  default 0 is the only one in there and it boots libranet by default even though ubuntu kernels are at top of list09:46
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Chousukebut it doesn't seem like I can stop it from autologging just #ubuntu09:46
soundraygnome_away, subtract 109:46
sklavare they commented?09:47
dudetengo una pregunta09:47
gnome_awaysoundray,  so take 0 out and add a -1 to it?09:47
WengCan I get a difinitive answer on exactly how large the package repositories are?09:47
nalioth!es09:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:47
aftertafWeng: dont think one person actually knows that.09:47
Chousukemeh.09:47
fdsdfdo i just give up09:47
soundraygnome_away, no, the command just tells you which is which, except that it is off by one.09:47
WengWell, I'll know soon enough...09:47
fdsdfand use kdm?09:47
WengMaybe.09:47
aftertafWeng: hehe ;)09:47
aftertaflet us know09:47
WengYeah.09:47
ChousukeI just rm -rf'ed ~/irclogs/freenode* :P09:48
WengI'll tell you this much09:48
sklavdefault -1?09:48
WengIt's SCARY large.09:48
sklavim not sure about that option09:48
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soundraygnome_away, 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v0'09:48
Weng5 gigs thus far for just w, x, y, z alphabetically under universe.09:48
gnome_awayok and the one i want to boot to is number 1 and if i take 1 away it still ends me up at 0 where it is set at now09:48
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Vertyg0Chousuke: next time rm -rf /root :D09:49
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LjLWeng: wait till you get to "g" and "k"09:49
ajmitch_Weng: you're probably getting all architectures09:49
WengYeah, I am09:49
sklavgnome_away, 0 =1 1 =2 2 =309:49
gnome_awaysklav,  yes that i know09:49
sklavso start counting 0 1 2 3 4 509:49
Wengbecause Filezilla is too stupid to have an option to ignore amd64 and powerpc09:49
sklavok09:49
soundraygnome_away, what are you running right now?09:49
sklavso you want which 1?09:49
sklavfirst in the list09:49
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gnome_awaywhat i am saying is the default menu says 0 ubuntu should be 0 but its libranet09:50
ChousukeVertyg0: only if you sudo rm -rf /09:50
WengOnce it's on my local system, I can axe the other architectures easy09:50
gnome_awayubuntu i want as primary default boot09:50
Pegasos989How did I change the password of my user again? :)09:50
sklavis it loading the proper kernel?09:50
Wengbut remotely, I only have what my brokeassed tools give me.09:50
Pegasos989!password09:50
ubotuPegasos989: I don't know, could you explain it?09:50
aftertafWeng: didnt apt-proxy give you any luck?09:50
gnome_awaysklav,  no it wasnt as of this morning09:50
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sklavgnome_away, paste you grub.conf somewher so i can see it09:50
fdsdfpasswd? :P09:51
gnome_awayok09:51
Wengapt-proxy would error out, because my only debian and ubuntu boxen are sitting on an internet-isolated network09:51
soundraygnome_away, if you've got multiple Linux installations, maybe you should have each one install its own bootloader in the root or boot partition.09:51
WengGotta do this the ghetto way.09:51
soundraygnome_away, then you can have one master bootloader that just chainloads the distribution you want.09:51
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sifiis there some way to check if smp is supported by the arch? arch only output the architecture but not if smp is supprted09:51
aftertafWeng: argh :)09:51
Pegasos989thanks, fdsdf . xD09:51
fdsdfnp09:52
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earthenhas anyone gotta samba SWAT working in ubuntu 6409:52
WengAll this in the name of giving away a few thousand ubuntu-laden machines.09:52
Red-Sox* #Red-Sox_away :Erroneous Nickname09:52
gnome_awayheres the grub list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/501009:52
Red-Soxwhat is that^09:52
cafuegosifi: 'uname -a'09:53
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aftertafWeng: a good cause ;)09:53
soundraygnome_away, HTH. Gotta go.09:53
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sklavgnome_away, try default 0 instead of default               009:55
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sklavput 1 space after default and then zero09:55
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sklavand get rid of savedefault09:55
gnome_awayok ill try it09:55
mjk64Can no-one explain to me the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" in the Ubuntu 5.10 installer? It's so essential, someone on this channel /must/ know!09:55
sklavas it might be loading libranet09:55
gnome_awaysave default is on all of the bootable kernels tho09:55
Wengaftertaf: Well, we've been handing out machines at the rate of about 100/yr loaded with Mandrake for the past 10 years09:56
aftertafmjk64: linux-386 is a metapackage, it brings in all that is *good* for a 386 kernel09:56
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sificafuego, yes, but uname does not have a command to just show if smp is supprted or not AFAIK, man checked09:56
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mjk64aftertaf: So linux-image-386 installs less (modules or whatever)?09:56
sklavi dont have it on my grub.lst09:56
aftertafmjk64: and image is the kernel package itself ( i think)09:56
WengBut now that our donations have increased to twenty times their normal level, we have to figure something else out09:56
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aftertafmjk64: yeah but better ti get the metapackage... it is also automatically updated and depends on latest kernel....09:57
anton_who do I  retrieve and import the signing key for cipher funk?09:57
WengAs of right now, there are 800 Pentium 3 700MHz/128mb/20gb machines sitting on the production floor waiting for an OS.09:57
gnome_awaysklav,  get rid of save default on all kernels or just the newest ubuntu kernel?09:57
WengAll from one doner.09:57
aftertafWeng: wow, nice :)        no way to get a net connectuionon there and apt away09:57
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mjk64aftertaf: So linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 is older than linux-(image-)386?09:57
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mjk64aftertaf: linux(-image)-386 = bleeding edge, linux(-image)-2.6.12-9-386 = "stable"?09:58
WengNope. And I don't think our landlords would appreciate our raping the shared internet connection like that, anyway.09:58
LjLmjk64: yeah the current kernel is -1009:58
mjk64LjL: Ah, okay!09:58
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sklavall the older 1's09:58
aftertafmjk64: not older, but when a new 386 kernel is released, you wont get it auto with an upgrade but you will with linux-38609:58
gnome_away2.6.12-1009:58
aftertafdapper has 2.6.14 right now09:58
gnome_awayok brb gonna try to reboot09:59
anton_who do I  retrieve and import the signing key for cipher funk?09:59
anton_i need my win32 codecs09:59
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mjk64aftertaf, LjL: Thanks for your explanations! I feared no-one would know here, which would be *very* ... err .. disturbing. %-)09:59
WengAnd the greatest damn thing is that the whole operation is self-sustaining, since we break down everything slower than 300MHz as scrap09:59
aftertafmjk64: hehe i fugured it out all by myself ;)09:59
WengIn steel alone, we almost profit09:59
mjk64aftertaf: Your nerves must be ruined now. :-)10:00
aftertafWeng: good on you guys ;)10:00
WengCPU-derived gold... Well, we sent off a drum of CPUs on Tuesday, and we should get about $300 back from it.10:00
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aftertafmjk64: hehe.. getting there ;) but a good learning curve10:00
slideIm launching a program with gksudo and i need to get the pid of the launched program, i dont see anything in the man page for gksudo, and in the bash script $! only gets the pid of gksudo, not the program it launches10:00
aftertafslide and ps -A shows nothing?10:01
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WengOperators of other computer recycling programs would kill us if they saw the stuff we break apart and melt down.10:01
slideaftertaf, im trying to get it using a script10:01
anton_W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B310:01
aftertafslide: argh.10:01
mjk64aftertaf: Actually, I hate losing the good Debian documentation and support for gaining the faster Ubuntu release cycles, but I'll nevertheless give it a try on my test machine. :-)10:01
anton_how do I fix that/10:01
WengWhile they're scraping for Pentiums, we won't even use most P2's10:01
nickrudslide, can't you use pidof, since you know the program name in the script?10:01
aftertafmjk64: ubuntu is sort of debian, so all learned is useful ;)10:01
slideaftertaf, im trying to launch a second X10:02
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mjk64aftertaf: Thank god. 8-)10:02
anton_...10:02
cafuegoi didn't do anything, don't thank me10:02
aftertafmjk64: and debian benefits from the faster dev cycle too ;)10:02
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aftertaflol cafuego nice10:02
MrPocketsJ #mirc4dummies10:02
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sklavdo kernels get updated thew apt-get by doing an upgrade?10:04
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linkda dist-upgrade.. they do10:05
sklavi see some people are running 2.6.12-1010:05
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sklavand im at 2.6.12-910:05
mjk64What is LTSP, anyway? ubotu-factoid for that is less useful.10:05
benplautis it safe to delete the beagle logs?10:05
sklavlinux terminal server project = LTSP10:05
mjk64sklav: Aaaah! Thanks!10:05
yianyone using the cvs snapshots of xorg here?10:05
agtnzanton_:  the key is here ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys hold on a sec10:05
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sklavok using apt how can one see what updates are available without having to install them?10:07
linkdnormally u just attempt to and it lists them without u having to accept them10:07
FireRabbit-s10:07
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linkdor that10:07
lipshi all when i start synaptic it gives me error message stating that one paskeg is corupted and i should repair it. how this can be done?10:07
gnomefreakstill no choice for 2.6.12-10 :( and libranet is still default10:07
sklavgnomefreak, how many hdd's do you have10:08
gnomefreak210:08
sklavhda and hdb?10:08
cafuegosklav: 2.6.12-9 -> 2.6.12-10 was an automatic upgrade.10:08
gnomefreakubuntu on hda and libranet on hdb10:08
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cafuegosklav: It had security fixes and you should have it too10:08
sklavi dont cafuego10:09
sklavand i jsut ran and apt-get update10:09
nubs0rI want to create a file to iterate thru directories inside this one directory and cat af ile called history..then grep for a certain word10:09
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anton_how do I use this key?10:09
gnomefreakcafuego, its in my /boot/grub/menu.lst as 2.6.12-10 but doesnt give me that choice at boot10:09
nubs0rbut not all the directories have a history file, so i need some testing of some sort10:09
cafuegosklav: Enable the breezy-security and breezy-updates repositories.10:09
nubs0rbecause this original line i wrote doesnt work10:09
nubs0rfor x in .; do cd $x && cat history | grep -i "linux"; done10:09
gfishcan someone help im having problems with xmm10:09
sklavi have10:09
gfish*xmms10:09
cafuegognomefreak: Then the grub you think you're using isn't the one in the MBR.10:09
sklavi get all updates10:09
Pygigfish: what problems?10:09
nubs0rso how do i fix that up to test if the directory has a file called history in its contents before catting it and grepping for a certain keyword?10:09
agtnzanton_: Hmm I'm trying to find the commands to import that key - maybe someone else knows. I'll keep looking :)10:10
gnomefreakcafuego, ok so how do i use the one in MBR without reinstalling everything?10:10
gfishPygi, i can only play music with it when no other sonds are playing10:10
anton_thank you agtnz10:10
cafuegonubs0r: find . -name history -exec grep -i linux {}\;10:10
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cafuegonubs0r: That finds all files called history and greps them for "linux"10:11
nubs0rcafuego, lol thats easier than writing a shell script10:11
nubs0rthanks10:11
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sklavcafuego, what do you issue for a kernel update? is it in an exempt list?10:11
nubs0rfind: missing argument to `-exec'10:11
ParkwayAnyone here ever install TinyFugue?10:11
WengThe entire repository is 12gb.10:11
levanderI've got a cdrecord command that's hung.  Can't even kill it with -9.  Anybody know how to kill it?10:11
cafuegosklav: You install a NEW ernel if it's a version upgrade, security ones are automatic.10:12
gfishPygi, i think i know why but i dont know how to sort it10:12
mjk64nubs0r: leave a space before \;10:12
sklavthen i dont have it10:12
sklavand all repos you mentionned are uncommented except for the mutliverse10:12
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benplautanyone know why beagle would be taking about 300mb of ram? my $home is only about 4gb10:12
agtnzanton_: I think the easiest way is to download the release.keys file then run 'gpg --import release.keys' from a terminal10:13
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cafuegobenplaut: mono is (*!@(!(#10:13
gfishPygi, say if msn made a sound then it wouldnt let me play because gaim has a sound at the same time10:14
nubs0rmjk64, do you happen to know what flag to specify to get grep to print the few couple lines before and after the match10:14
benplautcafuego: agreed, but nothing else works for beagle :(10:14
cafuegobenplaut: That roughtly translates to "inefficient and a resource hog"10:14
benplautyeah10:14
cafuegobenplaut: Mine on occasion peaks at 1GB10:14
mjk64nubs0r: -A(fter), -B(efore), -C(after + before)10:14
gnomefreakwell thanks i guess i will reinstall it10:14
ParkwayHmm..how do I compile/install a program when there's no make or install command?...10:14
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mjk64nubs0r: grep -C3 prints 3 lines before and after the matching line.10:14
cafuegobenplaut: I'm fairly sure the only way to have it use less ram is to completely disable it.10:15
benplauthrm10:15
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anton_hmm I did that and it still doesnt work for some reason10:15
zenlunatichow do you use tor in ubuntu?10:15
PygiParkway: first off all you need to use sudo10:15
benplautbtw, what do you guys like better - newton, or tomboy?10:15
ParkwayTried that heh10:16
gfishcan i get some help with xmms10:16
anton_W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B310:16
anton_still get that error10:16
Parkwaymake: command not found10:16
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Pygigfish: sorry, can't help. don't know what's the problem :/10:16
sklavdoes linux-image need to be installed?10:16
gfishPygi, it says its being used10:16
naliothubotu: tell gfish about sound10:16
agtnz>>> Can anyone help anton_ ? ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys is the url of the key file - how do we get that imported so no GPG error on update?10:17
naliothgfish: ubotu may have a solution for you10:17
ParkwayAlso recommended to run ./configure but I get a funky error when I do that10:17
zenlunaticanyone use tor on windows?10:17
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sklavhow do i clear the apt db10:17
naliothanton_: wget ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys  && sudo apt-key add release.keys10:17
sklavand rebuild it?10:17
nickrudagtnz, you use apt-key, I'm not sure about the synxax10:17
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naliothagtnz: _: wget ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys  && sudo apt-key add release.keys10:17
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agtnzthanks nalioth, nickrud :D10:18
nickrudsklav, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*10:18
nickrudapt-get update10:18
bunglewhere is my wastebasket??10:18
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sklavok i will try it10:19
i_m_meenhello10:19
i_m_meenis anyone using vim embedded in kdevelop?10:19
gfishnailoth thank you10:19
anton_gpg: can't open `realease.keys': No such file or directory10:21
agtnzanton_: typo10:21
anton_heh10:21
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anton_woops10:21
sorush20hi10:21
gfishnalioth, ubtou had the perfect solution thanks so much10:21
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zeus_HI10:22
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anton_thanks a lot agtnz10:22
anton_its working great10:22
zeus_I HAVE ONer problem with me linux10:22
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sorush20I have messed up my computer again..10:22
sklavcafuego, the only way i see the newer kernel is if i do apt-get install linux10:22
naliothgfish: any time, share the love (help someone)10:23
phasegenanyone know of a good (meaning easy) program for converting wma to mp3?10:23
agtnzanton_: great :)10:23
iobosswhere i can find kernel source?10:23
gfishnalioth, im a noob i wouldnt know where to start10:23
sklavapt-get install linux-source-2.6.1210:24
iguanaget the CD's10:24
iobossthanx10:24
gfishnailoth, i jumped in at the deepend and got rid of windows all together10:24
phasegenkernel source is easy, open synaptic and search for kernel10:24
sorush20I install kubuntu from scratch, then using the not so stright forward partitioning tool I belive that I chose the option which allowed me to partition the freespace and leave the data on the current hda1 and install to the new hda1, but now all my data is missing anyway I can get the data back?10:24
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naliothgfish: help where you can, is all10:25
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benplautlets see how fast this solaris kernel really is >:)10:25
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sklavoh well i will force it to install10:25
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pirxhow can i find out which package contains some certain command/file?10:25
arnduckyhowto get security updates from the official ubuntu repos automatically?  Would ya'll recommend editing crontab.weekly or is there some other Ubutuized way like security updates triggered by a listening Inetd bound server or e-mail notification or something?10:26
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arnducky(e.g something like Symantec LiveUpdate(tm) or Wupdate)10:26
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JoKoHi10:28
remissioni have a newbie question: how can i get umbuntu to mount my extra ntfs volume on boot... (instead of the auto mount)10:28
nickrudpirx, you can search for things like that on packages.ubuntu.com10:28
pepperpotHow good are the xorg drivers for Nvidia? Should I install NVidia's proprietary drivers if I want to use GL?10:28
sklavwhat is default kernel name when you do uname -a?10:28
ricky_dsHi folks, I modified the colors of the happy gnome login so that it fits better to the color scheme of ubuntu. I'd like to share it with people and get some feedback. Anyone want to try it?10:28
sklavi have the following 2.6.12-9-38610:28
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nickrudsklav,  2.6.12-9-686 (haven't rebooted yet)10:29
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JoKoOne of my friends has just installed Ubuntu for amd64... The thing is that his system boots fine, X.org loads also fine, but no session manager appears... Just a blank screen.. Could anyone help?10:29
lemics_@rick_ds did zou test it with gdmthemetester ?10:29
sklavnickrud, the new kernel is not even in my menu.lst10:29
Mitjaus.archive.ubuntu.com is no longer down10:29
ricky_dslemics_, what is that gdmthemetester?10:29
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sklavi had to force it by doing apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-38610:30
pirxnickrud: thanks!10:30
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cafuego2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (am VERY special)10:30
lemics_it test the login theme for errors10:30
nickrudsklav, it showed up in mine, and as the default10:30
ricky_dslemics_, note that I just changed the colors within the svg, nothing else, so I don't think there would be any issue. The feedback I'd like is more about the colors, if I caught the correct colors or if they can be improved?10:30
sklavi think something is wrong with my system10:30
lemics_on ubuntu just download xnest10:31
nickrudsklav, did you hand edit it at any time?10:31
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mjk64Why does Ubuntu 5.10 not offer installation of GRUB in the installer? Any reason for that? I've been using grub for a long time with no problems (except for a few missing features compared to LILO).10:31
cafuegosklav: You can marginally improve performance by picking a kernel suited to your cpu as well (as opposed to the generic 386 kernel)10:31
sklavyeah when i first installed it10:31
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cafuegomjk64: It does, unless you use LVM.10:31
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Shark27hi! how can I configure my broadcom 4401? Now it doesn't work :(10:31
sklavcafuego i have a sempron 3200+10:31
Red-Soxmy name is faded in the user list in x-chat!10:31
nickrudsklav, you may have changed it enough that the postinst won't touch it anymore10:31
cafuegosklav: So a -k7 kernel then :-)10:32
sklavyeah10:32
mjk64cafuego: D'oh! *That* was the limit I read about somewhere! Yeah, I'm using LVM. Damn ... hm ... hmmm ...10:32
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sklavnickrud, i just added vga=0x31710:32
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mjk64cafuego: :-)10:32
sklavfor a smaller font10:32
sorush20why isnt' the Konversation colouring this chat?10:32
nickrudsklav, I didn't: that must have been enough :)10:32
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sorush20like gaim10:32
JoKoOne of my friends has just installed Ubuntu for amd64... The thing is that his system boots fine, X.org loads also fine, but no session manager appears... Just a blank screen.. Could anyone help?10:33
cafuegoouuucoeK is SOOO a spambot10:33
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sklavthat so sucks10:33
Shark27could anyone help me?10:33
ganooshwhen i boot i get a grub command line, when i try to boot it says the kernel needs to be loaded first, how do i load the kernel?10:33
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fr33mindWhen I open a session in VNC (breezy is client) to a windows 2000 vnc server, I can't double-click.  It was working in Debian...10:33
mjk64cafuego: Can I boot my newly set-up Ubuntu later from the install CD? Like "expert root=/dev/whatever" or so?10:33
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maxx_730Hey10:34
cafuegomjk64: Yeah, should work just fine.10:34
maxx_730Anyone know what package in synaptic to install to get the original ubuntu usplash again?10:34
cafuegomjk64: Actually, with lvm, maybe not. Depends.10:34
r4ikhave to check10:34
mjk64cafuego: Okay, then I'll skip boot loader installation for now, because I think Debian installed GRUB *plus* LVM!10:34
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mjk64cafuego: I'll just give it a try =)10:34
cafuegomjk64: You can certainly boot the cd with 'rescue' and have it scan for partitions (and/or lvm/raid)10:34
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Red-Soxoh10:35
mjk64cafuego: Ah, great!10:35
c0phi im tryinig to compile drivers for my rtl8180 card, and i get the following errors: http://pastebin.com/437422 . latest kernel headers are installed...10:35
mjk64C-64 r0xx000000000000000000r!10:35
mjk64%-)10:35
maxx_730My rtl8180 card works out of the box?10:36
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Seveasmjk64, rofl10:36
jah_raztahi just complied mplayer with gtk210:36
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mjk64:-)10:36
sklavhow does 1 purge a package again10:36
c0pi need these drivers compiled10:36
Seveasmjk64, there's a beep-media-player plugin for sid tunes ;)10:36
sklavi forgot :(10:36
c0pi have it working with ndiswrapper10:36
c0pbut..10:36
Seveassklav, dpkg -P10:36
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jah_raztahbut the how to doesn't show how tog et the mozilla-mplayer to works10:36
c0pneed them compiled for injection10:36
sklavthanks Seveas10:36
ricky_dslemics_, you can have a look at it here: http://pastebin.com/437487 just save the code as background.svg and copy it to/usr/share/gdm/themes/happygnome(-list)10:36
Red-Soxwhy is my name faded in x-chat?!?10:37
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Seveasjah_raztah, you don't need to compile mplayer...10:37
jrsimshappy thanksgiving10:37
mjk64Seveas: beep-media-player? I'm using my own curses frontend to sidplay. :-) But I'll check out that beep-stuff anyway, thx!10:37
SeveasRed-Sox, because you're fading away from us :)10:37
ricky_dsSeveas, lol10:37
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Seveasmjk64, it's only in my repo10:37
Red-SoxSeveas: im not kidding10:37
Red-Soxlol,10:37
r4ikmine to can anybody read this/10:37
SeveasI'll have to fix up the package before submutting it :)10:37
mjk64Seveas: Where's that?10:37
Seveasmjk64, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl10:37
c0pSeveas, do you know why id get the following erros when trying to compile rtl8180 drivers ~ http://pastebin.com/43742210:37
sorush20why isnt' the Konversation colouring this chat?10:37
Seveasin breezy-extras10:38
jah_raztahSeveas, I kno but the mplayer on ubuntu repos are gtk 110:38
maxx_730Noone knows what package to install to get the original ubuntu usplash again?10:38
ricky_dsRed-Sox, so that you can spot your text more easily among all others?10:38
incogubuntu, the proof that you cant polish a turd10:38
Seveasmaxx_730, usplash10:38
mjk64Seveas: thx10:38
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Shark27Anyone has problem with bcm4401?10:38
naliothgfish: i'll let you in on a secret: you help people and end up learning a lot10:38
Red-Soxricky_ds: in the user list10:38
incogjust use windoes xp, problem solved10:38
maxx_730Seveas: Tried that already, still get the kubuntu usplash eventhough i removed it completely already10:38
cafuegoLots of people have lots of problems with broadcoms of many kinds.10:38
gfishnalioth, thanks for the advice10:39
c0pincog stop flaming10:39
HansZwolledpkg --reconfigure usplash10:39
maxx_730thanks10:39
lemics_thats right cafuego10:39
ricky_dsRed-Sox, ah, sorry. don't know then10:39
incogwho am i flaming?10:39
maxx_730Ill try that10:39
Red-Soxk10:39
sklavlater all10:39
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ganooshwhen i boot i get a grub command line, when i try to boot it says the kernel needs to be loaded first, how do i load the kernel?10:39
Seveasmaxx_730, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)10:39
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naliothincog: you should try to be civil in here please10:39
incogtry cp /dev/zero /dev/mem10:40
incognalioth, shut up10:40
incogprick10:40
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c0p...10:40
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szronikI get a "Cannot open resource for writing" error in Totem.10:40
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naliothubotu: tell incog about coc10:40
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Seveassigh10:41
Zedughlast night, someone wanted to know how to edit contents of initrd.img-..... files, u here now?10:41
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Red-Soxmy name is faded in the server list10:42
PinTol o10:42
PinToi need some help10:42
seliniumSeveas:  what is i with the 'people' coming to flame ubuntu?10:42
Seveasselinium, jealousy10:43
abortionLinux is a form of mental sickness; a security blanket left over from the childhood of the Computer Age. The sooner "Tux" and his travelling freak show pack it up and move on, the better.10:43
AstxistRed-Sox, you're probably marked as away10:43
Red-Soxoh10:43
nickrudRed-Sox, you can set the color in preferences, I think your name is 31 on that color list10:43
abortion Linux is an OS where files have no association to programs; all configuration and settings are stored "wherever" in text files that grow to be megabytes long; most shell commands are so abstractly named that you would never be able to use them without knowing how they work.. or first reading its "manual page".10:43
abortionLinux is an operating system of inconsistancy.10:43
abortionTheres over a thousand distributions of linux, and over a billion different modified versions of it. Programs come shipped as source code that you must compile and configure (by way of large scripts that attempt to figure out how your system is running.. since nothing is standard).10:43
seliniumSeveas: do something about this tw@10:43
PinToi downloaded some pakages ...when i extracted them there isnt any deb/rpm files just folders...how do i go about installing these?10:43
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naliothRed-Sox: please ask an informative question10:44
Red-Soxabortion: okay, this channel is for ubuntu support10:44
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PinTodo i have to patch them in ?10:44
seliniumSeveas, CHeers!10:44
naliothPinTo: what pkgs are you after?10:44
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PinTokernel-package....all the stuff needed to compile a kernel10:45
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Red-Soxwell.... how do you unmark yourself from away10:45
lemics_gcc10:45
SeveasRed-Sox, /away10:45
mjk64cafuego: Damn, now I know why there was an ext3 FS on that small partition I deleted for Ubuntu - that was /boot from a previous Debian installation so that I could use GRUB with an LVM-root. ARGH! %-)10:45
PinToi need to compile a kernel so i can set up my ADSL10:45
mcjerryis it necessary that i import the current kernel config or not? if i don't when i reboot does it redetect everything?10:45
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Zedughi have to say it: abortion, linux is not for people who want their computer as easy to use as their microwave or tv remote, and who don't want to give up control of there hardware and software to some big-brother entity.10:46
SeveasZedugh, this is not an advocacy channel10:46
Seveasand he left already10:46
Astxistheh10:46
Zedughok10:47
AstxistZedugh, no point responding to ppl like that10:47
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PinToi just need to know how do i go about installing these all the packages r from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ but i aint familiar with this process10:47
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mcjerrywhen updating to ne kernel, is it absolutely necessary to import the current config?10:47
naliothPinTo: open synaptic10:48
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PinToyeah10:48
ganooshhow do i load the kernel in grub?10:48
naliothPinTo: select all10:48
cafuegoIt's not even absolutely necessary to build you own kernel. It's not recommended either if you ask _that_ question.10:48
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PinToyeah10:48
naliothPinTo: do what comes natural10:48
WengHrm10:48
WengOkay10:48
Weng....10:48
WengSo I have 16 gigs of RAM10:49
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Wengand a 15 gig /pool10:49
Xsylotteq: how to set-up PPPoE connection in ubuntu 5.0.4 ?10:49
PinTothanx m810:49
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mcjerrycafuego, dvb card drivers in current kernel causing dmesg errors, have to update kernel, but that causes other issues,,,10:49
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mcjerrywant new kernel without complete reinstall10:49
cafuegomcjerry: ok, you can build one from a kernel.org source tree.10:50
kaleissinanyone experts at getting sound to work here tonight?10:50
cafuegomcjerry: 1) fetch and unpack tarball.10:50
WengI only have one contiguous 16gb HDD, though.10:50
WengAnd that's got the OS on it.10:50
cafuegomcjerry: 2) sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 kernel-package libncurses5-dev10:50
mcjerrygot those10:50
mcjerrywget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.14.tar.bz210:50
cafuegomcjerry: Cool, cd into the source tree, run 'export CC=gcc-3.4'10:50
mcjerrythat is kernel i got10:51
cafuegomcjerry: The latest is 2.6.15 actually10:51
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WengSCSI is the devil's tool :P10:51
mcjerryk, where get it?10:51
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Cyro11is there anyone over here who talks spanish?10:51
cafuegowget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.15.tar.bz210:51
kaleissinScsi nice10:51
cafuego!es10:51
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:51
Cyro11ok10:51
Cyro11thank you10:51
Spudchathi anyone have any ideas on how to back up my dvds?10:52
kaleissinSpudchat, duplicate e'm?10:52
cafuegoNo, maybe I lie, and maybe Ubuntu dapper has just "invented" a .1510:52
mjk64Spudchat: On other DVDs? ;-)10:52
Spudchatyeah10:52
cafuegomcjerry: Never mind, use .1410:52
Spudchatpreferably yes on other dvds10:52
Seveasubotu, obey!10:52
ubotuYes master seveas10:52
kaleissindd from old dvd to harddrive10:52
nickrudSpudchat, dvdrip10:52
kaleissinthen dd to new drive?10:52
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mcjerryis .15 stable10:53
Seveasno10:53
cafuegomcjerry: No, use .1410:53
mcjerryk10:53
cafuegomcjerry: Did you unpack it?10:53
Seveason Breezy, use .1210:53
mcjerryyep10:53
Seveasuse Ubuntu packages unless you have a very good reason10:53
cafuegoSeveas: he needs updated dvb drivers10:53
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ivohello10:53
Seveasthat's a good reason :)10:53
cafuegoivo: mogge10:53
ivowho can help me with a webcam problem?10:53
Seveas!tell ivo about ask10:53
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kaleissinivo: get a flashcard-reader10:54
kaleissinivo: move card from camera to reader10:54
kaleissinivo: plug in reader10:54
cafuegomcjerry: Alright, back to the initial plan :-) Cd into the kernel source dir, run 'export CC=gcc-3.4'10:54
ch0c0bnhi. is this channel using UTF-8 ? (should be, isn't it)10:54
Seveaskaleissin, *webcam*10:54
kaleissinivo: problem solved10:54
cafuegomcjerry: That will make the build process use the correct compiler version.10:54
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Seveasch0c0bn, yes10:54
ch0c0bnthx10:54
Xsylotteq: how to set-up PPPoE connection in ubuntu 5.0.4 ?10:54
mcjerrycaruego, prob after install with current cnfg is sdb1 my 2nd sata drive will not enable10:54
binzeis it possible to install ubuntu remotely - over the existing Mandrake installation?10:54
SeveasXsylotte, sudo pppoeconfig10:54
mcjerryit was all working fine b4 update10:54
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cafuegomcjerry: Then run 'cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config'10:55
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Xsylottek Seveas10:55
cafuegomcjerry: Did you already build a new kernel before?10:55
mcjerryam going through kernel install right now10:55
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lemics_or use rp-pppoe10:55
Seveasmako, you're cured again? :)10:55
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mcjerrycafuego ;do over'd10:55
cafuegothe 'pppoe' package *is* rp-pppoe.10:55
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Wengbinze: Yes, but your system has to support netboot and you have to be willing to sit there and scream for a few hours because the documentation was written like 6 versions ago10:55
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amcclureHi... I just installed ubuntu under vmware, and for some reason (even though i didn't set this as an "alllowed" resolution) it started up in 1920x1200, and when i try to set the screen resolution to anything else in GNOME the screen goes crazy garbage10:55
amcclurebut my monitor doesn't even support 1920x120010:56
amcclureDo you have any idea what might be happening here?10:56
purplefeltangelcan someone help me fix flash sound/ video problems?10:56
lemics_zes siree10:56
binzeweng: how do i check if my system supposrt netboot? i have no physical access to it10:56
ivoquestion: i have a webcam and ubuntu see's the webcam, but when i want to start getting images from the webcam, linux frezes completly! I got the driver from the company, so does someone know howcom?10:56
Wengbinze: Oh, you don't have physical access. Then that's not going to happen, either, since you have to change settings on the DHCP server for it's network10:56
ganooshhow do i load a kernel in grub?10:56
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Chousukeivo: likely a bug in the driver.10:57
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purplefeltangelflash will not play sounds and with some videos the animation stops....how can if ix this?10:57
Spudchatallright i installed dvdrip but what should my default database directory be?10:57
Seveaskernel /path/to/kernel param1 param2 param3 etc...10:57
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Seveas^-- gana10:57
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Seveasganoosh*10:57
ganooshwhat would be the path to the kernel i know it's on /dev/hdb1 but that's about it10:57
ivoChousuke: can i do something about it?10:57
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Seveasfirst root (hd1,0)10:58
Seveasthen kernel /boot/linux-version-something10:58
Seveasetc...10:58
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Seveasabd dont forget initrd10:58
ColD_7purplefeltangel, there is a solution in the help that come with ubuntu10:58
Chousukeivo: besides taking the source and fixing it, not much. :/10:58
Chousukeor maybe you can find what the driver conflicts with.10:59
purplefeltangelcolD_7: ok thx10:59
ganooshwhat do i do with initrd?10:59
Seveasload it ...10:59
ganooshwhat exactly is it though?10:59
ganooshlol sorry i'm new to linux10:59
mcjerrycafuego, this imports current config right? mcjerry: Then run 'cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config'10:59
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cigahi10:59
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gfishwhat can i use to put music on my ipod11:00
cigaI cannot mount an other iso with mount. it says: 'mount: could not find any free loop device'. what should I do?11:00
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lemics_man initrd11:00
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mcjerrycafuego, here is prob. 2.6.12-9 running now, seeing all sata drives, but when i update to new kernel, i can see my 2nd drive, but cannot access it or enable it11:01
amcclurehow do i find out what version fo x i am using11:01
amcclurei have ubuntu 5.10 and i don't seem to have an xserver-xfree86 pacage11:01
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mcjerryuse xorg11:02
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cafuegoamcclure: xserver-xorg (6.8.something)11:02
cafuegoamcclure: xfree86 changed its licence so something non-free.11:02
gimmulfHi, i really would like to have some help. Just installed ubuntu but X doesnt start, im in terminal now and not used to beeing here but i've used ubuntu before.  Im having an Radeon X800 Pro Pci Express card.  Error when trying to startx:  (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"  Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found  Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libGLcore.a:m_debug11:03
amcclureok11:03
Zedughamcclure, ubuntu uses Xorg, but to see your version, in a term type sudo X -version11:03
mcjerrycafuego: read above post and see if problem related to new kernel with config import11:03
cafuegogimmulf: Those are not errors. Paste the whole think to a pastebin website.11:03
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gimmulfcafuego: i dont even know how to paste and stuff from terminal11:03
cafuegomcjerry: The -10 or the self-compiled one?11:03
gimmulfcafuego:  shall i dcc the error file?11:04
gimmulfmaybe11:04
cafuegogimmulf: That's pointless, I can't do dcc.11:04
gimmulfahha hmmm11:04
mcjerrycafuego: current is 2.6.12-9-386 from cd install11:04
gimmulfcafuego: do youwant to see the Xorg.log?11:05
mcjerryit works11:05
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damotorhi11:05
cafuegomcjerry: I wonder if you should give the 2.6.15 kernel from dapper a try...11:05
damotorcan you tell me what's the version of the driver for the ipw2200 wireless card that comes with breezy?11:05
mcjerrycafuego: will try, nothing to lose, what is link?11:05
cafuegomcjerry: Hold on ...11:05
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gfishwhat do i use to put music on my ipod11:06
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naliothgfish: gtkpod11:06
mcjerrycafuego: I can update the kernel, the process itself I can do, but I have had same problem with sata drive whether running amd64 or 38611:06
gimmulfcafuego: What shoyuld i put on a pastebin site?11:07
gimmulfxorg.log`?11:07
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i use unrar to decompress a .rar file?11:07
gfishnalioth, thanks do u use this personally and is it good11:07
mjk64BROKEN_LADDER: unrar blah.rar11:07
CybercoolChousuke: (i am ivo from 5 minutes ago)i tried it again and i get a view errors, do you want to help me11:07
BROKEN_LADDERoh nm11:07
gfishnalioth i dont wanna screw my ipod11:07
BROKEN_LADDERmjk64 i had to type unrar e11:07
cafuegomcjerry: You running ia32 Ubuntu on and amd64?11:07
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ChousukeCybercool: I don't think I can :/11:07
naliothgfish: thousands of linux users use it11:07
carlociao a tutti11:08
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ChousukeCybercool: I have zero knowledge about webcams.11:08
mjk64BROKEN_LADDER: Damn, mixed it up with unzip, sorry11:08
BROKEN_LADDERcafuego lol11:08
Qalimascan anyone here aid me in a dual monitor task?11:08
naliothgfish: i dont have an ipod, would you send me a nano to see how gtkpod works?  :)11:08
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gfishnalioth, ill get it now thwn11:08
ChousukeCybercool: I just game you whatever generic advice I had :)11:08
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CybercoolChousuke: do you have knowledge of: insmod: can't read 'videodev'11:08
mcjerrycafuego: can get amd64 running fine, but vdr, xine, and other issues, must run i32 to overcome and want to get it working prior to chroot11:09
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gimmulfcafuego: What shoyuld i put on a pastebin site?11:09
ChousukeCybercool: hm11:09
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cafuegomcjerry: Yeah, I know. Just maiign sure I give you the right kernel :-)11:09
ChousukeCybercool: do you have v4l loaded? or whatever it was.11:09
Chousukevideo4linux11:09
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cafuegomcjerry: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-3-k7_2.6.15-3.3_i386.deb11:10
CybercoolChousuko: how can i check>11:10
cigaI can see only 0 in my /dev/loop/? Is this the reason I can only mount 1 iso file?11:10
dabaRHi. How do I find out what files are in my classpath for Java?11:10
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CybercoolChousuko: i have also 2 other errors, i will paste them here, if you have the time?11:10
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cafuegogimmulf: Ideally the whole contents of the .xsession-errors file.11:10
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mcjerrycafuego: loading now11:11
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naliothCybercool: please dont paste anything in here, use a pastebin11:11
gimmulfcafuego:  how do i copy everything in a file in vim and how do i paste?11:11
Cybercoolsorry, what is the pastebin?11:11
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gimmulffrom links11:11
dabaR!pastebin11:12
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:12
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gimmulfcafuego:  the /etc/X11/Xsession file?11:12
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Cybercool!pastebin insmod: can't read 'videodev': No such file or directory11:13
Cybercoolinsmod: can't read 'usbcore': No such file or directory11:13
Cybercoolinsmod: can't read 'usb-ehci': No such file or directory11:13
Cybercoolinsmod: error inserting './vm301.ko': -1 Invalid module format11:13
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Cybercool11:13
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SeveasNEVER paste in here11:13
dabaRhe didnt read:)11:13
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PinTocould n e 1 tell me how i install these pakages? or a howto i downloaded a "tar" pakage then extracted it but there aint no deb/rpm files in there just folders11:13
naliothCybercool: i asked you not to paste in here11:14
PinTohow do i go about installing these?#11:14
alessandro_hi11:14
naliothPinTo: what are "these" ?11:14
mcjerrycafuego: have it dloaded, not sure this way11:14
gfishnalioth, uve been alot of help today thanks, by any chance do u know how to author avis or xvids to dvd ?11:14
PinToi downloded some development pakages cos they arent in n e of my repos..for compiling a kernel11:15
guydebordcan anybody read this message? Ive been having problem ever since the anti spam measures.11:15
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amcclure*scratches head* I installed ubuntu under vmware. Then I shut it down and started it up again, and now when i start up the ubuntu virtual machine a little underscore appears on the screen and everything freezes11:15
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PinToso i DLed them from ubuntu.org11:15
naliothgfish: dvdauthor11:15
amcclurenothing seems to happen, it jsut stays iwth the underscore showing11:15
amccluredo you have any idea what might be happening11:15
SeveasPinTo, ubuntu.org is not related to the linux distribution11:15
agtnzguydebord: yep man fire away11:16
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naliothPinTo: ALL the pkgs you need for kernel developement are in the repos11:16
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amcclurei fiddled wit the hardware settings a little while it was shut down11:16
navaroneSeveas> Any experience using Ghost for Linux. I dl'ed iso and am considering using it to backup both os'es...11:16
gfishnalioth, are you serious11:16
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guydebordOk.  Other problem know I can`t see the other users.  Is that another security measure?11:16
PinTonalioth i dont have kernel-pakage in there or linsecurses.dev and some other stuff11:16
naliothPinTo: they certainly do11:17
gpHow can I stop my computer from changing 'resolv.conf' on start-up?11:17
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PinToi dont11:17
SeveasPinTo, then correct your sources11:17
PinToi only have 3 repos11:17
Seveas!tell PinTo about sources11:17
faustI'm having a slight problem with ubuntu 5.10 here. Fresh install (ran an expert install, so I wouldn't be deprived of my beloved root account). When I booted up after install, the networking didn't work. Entered root and ran dhclient manually. So, now that's up.11:17
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mjk64Err ... how the fsck do I scroll back in rescue mode in 5.10? Framebuffer mode is activated.11:17
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purplefeltangelhow do i move an application into a different group?11:17
PinTothe only repos i have r what was installed by default i aint got no internet connection11:18
naliothpurplefeltangel: group of what?11:18
faustBut whenever I try to enter any of the administrative features in Gnome, I get a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens.11:18
Seveasgp, wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp11:18
faustTried both root password and current user password.11:18
purplefeltangelnalioth: on the applications menu11:18
naliothPinTo: how are you talking to us now?11:18
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naliothpurplefeltangel: right click on the menu11:18
PinTowindows11:18
purplefeltangelnalioth: thx11:18
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naliothPinTo: ah. well then11:18
PinToso i DLed the pakages manualy11:18
SeveasPinTo, why do you need kernel development stuff?11:18
naliothubotu: tell PinTo about sources11:18
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PinTofrom official site so know the stuffs good11:18
SeveasPinTo, and please try to type understandable english...11:18
gimmulfhow do i search for software using apt-get?11:18
Seveasgimmulf, apt-cache search11:19
naliothgimmulf: man apt-get will help you lots11:19
gfishhow do i author dvds11:19
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mcjerrycafuego: have file downloaded, have not compiled in this way before, what next>11:19
PinToseveas so i can connect by adsl11:19
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naliothgfish: you grab dvdauthor and visit the dvdauthor homepage and read11:19
SeveasPinTo, sudo pppoeconfig11:19
Seveasdone11:19
PinTobase install no good11:19
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gfishnalioth, thanks once again11:19
gimmulfWierd apt-cache search links2 wont find anything11:19
Seveas!info links211:19
PinToi need to build specific modules11:20
ubotulinks2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB11:20
cafuego!find links211:20
ubotulinks2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB11:20
PinToits pppoa11:20
Seveas!tell gimmulf about universe11:20
PinToATM11:20
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Seveaspppoa :/11:20
cafuegoPinTo: That's already in the kernel. What are you talking about?11:20
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tony_hi, could someone tell me what file is edited when doing a 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'?11:20
gimmulfwhere is sources.list?11:20
Seveastony_, are you using warty?11:20
Seveas!tell gimmulf about sources11:20
cafuegotony_: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf11:20
tony_Seveas: yes11:20
PinToallz i need do is compile a kernel11:21
frank23gimmulf: /etc/apt/sources.list11:21
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Seveastony_, /etc/XF86config-411:21
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PinTobase install no good11:21
cafuegotony_: /etc/X11/XF86Config-411:21
Seveascafuego, indeed11:21
guydebordAny one know where to find the windows manager in GNOME desktop?11:21
cionhey all how do i use a webcam on ubuntu?11:21
gimmulfSeveas: that only gave me www links :)11:21
cafuegoSeveas: It's in X11, no?11:21
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gimmulfthanks frank2311:21
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Seveasguydebord, it's called metacity11:21
PinToi'm avin a bad day11:21
SanneHello, I have an Athlon Thunderbird 1000 Mhz, is it right that I should be running a k7 kernel?11:21
Seveascafuego, I'ma filthy liar too :)11:21
cafuegoSanne: yes11:21
Sannecafuego,  thanks11:21
cafuegoSeveas: it's genetic with _our_ people ;-)11:21
SeveasSanne, sudo apt-get install linux-k711:21
frank23Sanne: yeah k7 for amd11:21
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Seveascafuego, *g*11:22
Sannethanks all, will install :)11:22
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faustWhenever I try to enter any of the administrative features in Gnome, I get a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens. Tried both the regular user password and the root password.11:22
cionhey all how do i use a webcam on ubuntu?11:22
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faustWhat could be wrong?11:22
guydebordCan I access this through desktop or do I have to operate in terminal?11:22
Seveasfaust, try in a terminal: gksudo synaptic11:22
Seveaswhat happens?11:22
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faustWait a sec. the laptop froze during logout.11:22
Seveasguydebord, what do you want with the windowmanager?11:23
Seveasit's teher11:23
Seveasit's responsible for all windows11:23
Seveass/teher/there/11:23
PinTois there a distro out there that has all the repositories on installation disc?11:23
tony_this is strange then. i thought it was XF86Config-4 so i renamed it and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again and it didn't complain about missing file and picked up my old settings from somewhere.11:23
defendguinwhere can i look ath the changelog for all the recent updates?11:23
Seveastony_, auto-detected settings, not old settings11:23
felipe_weee, I finnaly received de breezy cds after two months and two days :D11:24
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PinTojust incase yer Scwd11:24
cafuego!dstats11:24
guydebordJust change my window preferences so that they minimize into the panel instead of disapearing.11:24
cafuegoaiyee!11:24
carstenhow can i unzip bz2 files?11:24
tony_Seveas: right, where are they stored then?11:24
guydebordI can retreive with Alt tab but its a hassle11:24
cafuegocarsten: via bunzip211:24
Seveascarsten, bunzip11:24
carstencafuego: thanks11:24
cafuegoof bzcat11:24
cafuegos/f/r/11:24
Seveastony_, *autodetected*11:24
carstenSeveas: thanks11:24
Seveasso not stored11:24
guydebordWindows preferences is useless11:24
tony_Seveas: :)11:24
Seveasguydebord, add the window list to your panel11:25
tony_Seveas: i see, i thought you meant from the intial install11:25
PinTowould i gbe able to write these files to disc and them through synaptic CDROM?11:25
Seveasthat has *nothing* to do with the windowmanager11:25
PinToload*11:25
SeveasPinTo, no11:25
gimmulfcafuego:  was it the /etc/X11/Xsession i should paste?11:25
Zedughguydebord, do you still have the panel at the bottom of the screen?11:25
cafuegogimmulf: No, it was not.11:25
cafuegogimmulf: it was ~/.xsession-errros11:26
PinToSeveas u must know what i mean tho about the folders?11:26
gimmulfthanks11:26
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PinTono deb/rpm just folders with amkefiles in there11:26
SeveasPinTo, I have no idea11:26
tony_Seveas: if i've renamed /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, should dpkg-reconfigure recreate it?11:26
guydebordgreat thanks. Little difference to get used to11:26
SeveasPinTo, then download .deb files11:26
Seveastony_, yes11:26
carstenwhat is the correct parameter to de-tar tar files tar -xvf blah.tar ?11:26
ColD_7help needed, how can i extract an rar file in ubuntu?11:26
Seveascarsten, yes11:26
PinTolike i tried but its like not werkin11:26
faustSeveas: running gksudo synaptic produces a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens.11:27
carstenSeveas: thanks again11:27
Seveasand for .tar.bz2 files: tar jxvf blah.tar.bz211:27
faustNo error messages, nothing in terminal, nothing.11:27
Seveasfaust, no output in the terminal?11:27
faustNothing at all.11:27
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tony_Seveas: thanks11:27
faustIt also seems that dhclient isn't run on boot. I have to run it manually after starting.11:27
gimmulfcafuego:  i doesnt seem to have that dir11:27
Seveasfaust, did it work before?11:27
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faustSeveas: Clean install.11:27
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Seveasfaust, did you do a server or expert install?11:28
faustexpert install, following pretty much the steps I would in a debian install.11:28
Seveasyeah, then sudo isn't setup11:28
faustah11:28
PinTothis is where i'am gettin my pakages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/ some1 must be familiar with these11:28
Seveasyou know how to setup sudo?11:28
faustNo. Got an url for a good howto?11:29
Seveashang on11:29
Seveaswhat does 'id' give you?11:29
frank23PinTo: why don't you just use synaptic instead?11:29
PinTono internet11:29
SeveasPinTo, then download *THE DEB PACKAGES* from there11:30
Seveasand not the tarballs11:30
PinToi'll check it i think they all tar balls11:30
Seveas*sigh*11:30
Seveaswould I tell you to download debs if there aren't any?11:30
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r3tex_what is better, mozplugger or mplayer-plugin?11:31
Seveasfaust, what does 'id' give you?11:31
Seveasr3tex_, mplayer11:31
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faustuid=1000(willy) gid=1000(willy) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),100011:31
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PinToyeah they're all tarballs11:31
faustTook some time to type, that's all. Using the winblows rig to ask for help.11:31
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naliothPinTo: then you're in the wrong place. click on your arch type at the bottom11:31
naliothPinTo: packages.ubuntu.com11:32
r3tex_Seveas:  ok =)11:32
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Seveasfaust, right, sudo addgroup --system admin && sudo adduser willy admin11:32
frank23PinTo: look at the Download section of any packages11:32
cionhey i have a question is it possible to remove 386 kernel after having installed 686 kernel?11:32
gpHow do I know if I use UpDown networking?11:32
ZedughPinTo, you are on the internet now. you are downloading src tarballs from the internet. I understand you don't have a ubuntu system working yet, that's what you're trying to do. Download the debs (not the source) for what you need from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/11:32
frank23cion: yeah you can remove it with synaptic11:32
Seveasfaust, and use the standard sudoers file, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/501311:32
PinToyeah gz11:32
SeveasPinTo, how blink are you?11:33
faustHmm.. running that command produced no output at all.11:33
PinToyeah but i'm new11:33
faustand now nothing happens when I run administrative tools. Not even a password prompt.11:33
SeveasPinTo, ffs, it's right there11:34
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ciondo i compromise anything by doing such operation?11:34
guydeborddoes anybody know if I can log into freenode from another laptop with MS Window11:34
Seveassee your private chat11:34
Seveasfor an example11:34
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Seveasguydebord, sure11:35
rixthI'm reinstalling Ubuntu. Where is the configuration for the layout of Gnome's panel?11:35
ZedughPintTo, you believe you cannot install without a custom kernel because you have some unusual hardware? Maybe, maybe not, what is so unusual about your hardware11:35
rixthIs there a single file?11:35
TokenBadwhats a good newsgroup program for ubuntu?11:35
SeveasTokenBad, pan11:36
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TokenBadthanks Seveas11:36
Seveasrixth, it's in gconf11:36
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faustSeveas: After running the commands you gave me, and editing the sudoers file so it matches the one in the example, I still get nothing happening.11:36
PinToTTFN11:36
frank23TokenBad: pan  works for me11:36
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Seveasfaust, does 'id' say you're in the 'admin' group?11:36
faust4(adm)11:37
rixthYes but how can I export it?11:37
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outrageshttp://www.anakata.hack.se/www.linux.se_0610_0800_deface/ : KILL THEM ALL!!11:37
faustSeveas: no, it doesn't.11:37
rixth'anakata' is the owner of ThePirateBay.org, he is also from Sweden. Same guy?11:37
Seveasfaust, then something went wrong with the earlier commands11:37
Seveasdoes the admin group exist?11:38
Seveasif so: sudo adduser willy admin11:38
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adrianocplease, where i found for "Automatix" ?11:39
sorush20guys where is that auto setup script?11:39
sorush20for the mplayer etc?11:39
faustSeveas: the group admin does not exist in the /etc/group file11:39
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Seveasfaust, then let's go the quick route11:40
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DuDE27hi anyone know if there is a possibility to make the notification area in the gnome panel transparent?11:40
Seveasreplace %admin with willy in in /etc/sudoers11:40
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faustDone.11:40
gpSeveas:  I ran through the Wiki - now I am getting 'Connection Refused' messages from ubuntu sites?11:40
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faustNow it works. Thanks :)11:41
fevoldj2Hi11:41
Seveasgp, hm11:41
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faustThe group adm, has that replaced admin?11:41
Seveasfaust, no11:41
faustBecause that's there, and I'm a member of it.11:41
Seveasthey serve different purposes11:41
fevoldj2I installed the php5 module for apache2 and apache 2, but apparently there are problems with php11:41
faustok11:41
fevoldj2=(11:41
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Seveasfevoldj2, such as?11:42
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gpSeveas: Was that a thinking 'hm'; or a command, or something?11:42
Seveasa thinking11:42
GlobeCoderi installed ubuntu, is it possible to change the resolution it uses after ive installed it?11:42
GlobeCoderi installed ubuntu, is it possible to change the resolution it uses after ive installed it?11:42
GlobeCoderoops11:42
GlobeCodersorry11:42
Seveasthe sites work for me, which site in specific is failing?11:42
Seveas!tell GlobeCoder about fixres11:42
fevoldj2Well just not being able to open a php page. it prompts to download the php file rather than loading it.11:42
GlobeCoderthanks11:42
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Zedugh!tell Zedugh about fixres11:43
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gpSeveas: The au.archives.ubuntu.com site works when I 'apt-get update', but not when I 'apt-get install ..'  (111 Connection Refused)11:44
MirithHey, i have a question about an install, i'm trying to install daimonin, and i'm following their instructoins on how to install, the first command after untaring it, being sh ./configure  except its giving me a cannot guess build type error  any suggestions?11:44
Seveasgp, try another one then :)11:44
gpSeveas: Also when I use firefox to try and access the 'packages.ubuntu.com'11:44
GlobeCoderok i dont understand anything about that.11:44
Seveasgp p.u.c works here..11:44
soundrayMirith, apt-get install build-essential ?11:45
Mirithyah got it11:45
GlobeCoderI dont understand anything about that help thing on the resolution fix thing.11:45
gpSeveas:  Nevermind, thanks.  I still had the 's' in after the 'http(s)'11:45
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Mirithwell hmm i contributed the wrong problem to the next stage11:45
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Seveas:)11:46
foomanchewhelp with SB Live in Breezy ?11:46
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Mirithhmm... thanks for your help guys11:46
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rixthReinstalling now. Hope to be back within an hour. (though something will inevitably go wrong)11:46
foomanchewhelp with SB Live in Breezy ????11:46
foomanchewnot getting any sound11:46
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gimmulfcafuego: finally i got the file up: http://pastebin.com/43755411:47
guydeborddo I join freenode through windows messager?11:47
Seveasguydebord, not11:47
Seveasuse mirc on windows11:47
gnomefreakguydebord,  i would sure hope not11:47
GlobeCodercan someone help me step to step in lowering the resolution on ubuntu?11:47
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gnomefreakSeveas,  mirc isnt free you can get x-chat free on windows11:48
rixthGlobeCoder, go to the system menu, then preferences, then screen resolution11:48
Seveasgnomefreak, nope11:48
GlobeCoderrixth lmfao11:48
Seveasit's payware too on windows11:48
fevoldj2 Are there any configuration changes I need to make for php5 to get it to work with apache?11:48
guydebordthe thing is I am currently using a spanish MS desktop so its kinda confusing11:48
fevoldj2I've installed both with adept11:48
GlobeCoderSeveas11:48
rixthGlobeCoder, why funny?11:48
GlobeCoderi dont get it on the help.11:48
GlobeCoderrixth.. lol11:48
gpIs the flashplayer-mozilla package not availiable for AMD64?11:49
guydeborddirectly through explorer then?11:49
Killer_SmurfSeveas Chatzilla works too11:49
rixthgp, no11:49
rixthPfft. Reinstall. Back later.11:49
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foomanchewhelp with setting up SB Live please11:49
Seveasgp, macromedicrap does not want to support amd6411:49
gnomefreakSeveas,  hold on im getting you the x-chat download site11:50
WengIf I'm specifying commands to be run in a preconfiguration file, they're run as root, right?11:50
jkl-could anyone help me with setting up static routing?11:50
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faustAre the system tools supposed to start damn slow, or is it just me that's happening to?11:50
gnomefreakfree x-chat http://www.silverex.org/download/11:51
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thewayofzenfree xchat  apt-get install xchat :)11:52
WengAnd I knew I should have brought home more test deployment systems.11:52
soundraythewayofzen, you missed part of that thread.11:52
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WengWaiting an hour after making a change to know if it worked or not is a PITA11:52
gnomefreakthewayofzen,  for windows that command doesnt work in DOS  :)11:52
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thewayofzensoundray and gnomefreak  apparently so :)11:52
Mirithahahah... Blimp vs the Golden Gate Bridge... guess whose winning!11:52
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Wengthe blimp.11:52
randyHey all.11:52
MirithI <3 Thanksgiving james bond11:53
WengJames Bond is the ultimate badass.11:53
Mirithhe is11:53
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jkl-Mirith: what does "<3" mean?11:53
randyAnyone able to compile gnaomebaker on breezy?  configure can't find GNOME.  I installed build-essential, gnome-devel and x-window-system-dev.11:53
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Mirithits a heart emoticon11:53
WengIt means he's less than three thanksgiving james bonds.11:53
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Seveasrandy, apt-get install gnome11:54
jkl-Mirith: ahhh ;)11:54
SeveasWeng, pfftopic talk elsewhere11:54
Seveasrandy, apt-get install gnomebaker11:54
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gimmulfcafuego:  did you see the errors?11:54
randySeveas: I guess I could do that but I'd really like to compile it.  I'm stuborn.11:55
apokryphosrandy: also note that the best way to satisfy depends (if and when you can), is using apt; simply apt-get build-dep package11:55
sproingierandy: apt-get build-dep gnomebaker11:55
gimmulfDoes anyone understand theese erros im getting when trying to startx right after a new installation of Ubuntu, im using an Radeon X800 Pro Pci Express cardhttp://pastebin.com/43755411:55
Seveasrandy, in that case: apt-get build-dep gnomebaker11:55
guydebordIm having some problems configuring my wireless connection.11:55
randyhmm.11:56
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ColD_7where should i put my downloaded font11:56
GlobeCoderSeveas11:56
ColD_7?11:56
guydebordIt shouldn`t be difficult. Already installed ndiswrapper11:56
GlobeCodercan you tell me how to fix the dam resolution step by step?11:56
ColD_7i cant find the font:/// as mentioned in the help11:56
GlobeCoderi dont understand anything from that help11:56
guydebordIn fact the wireless already work at the place I had it configured.11:56
thewayofzenGlobeCoder, do you know the scan rates of your monitor?11:57
sproingieColD_7: ~/.fonts11:57
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GlobeCoderscan rates?11:57
GlobeCoderO.o11:57
guydebordThe problem is configuring it to my own IP11:57
thewayofzenGlobeCoder,  the horizontal and vertical scan rates of the model of monitor you have11:57
GlobeCoderhow can i find out?11:57
GlobeCoderbut11:57
GlobeCoderhold on11:57
GlobeCoderill get u a screenshot of what i see11:58
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GlobeCoderwell11:58
GlobeCoderits like11:58
GlobeCoderover wide11:58
GlobeCoderreally over wide11:58
thewayofzenGlobeCoder,  for example i have a Dell 1025tm Trinitron monitor.  its scan rates are Hor 85  and Vert 12011:58
thewayofzenGlobeCoder,  a screenshot will not help me.  you need to use google or the manual that came with your monitor to find out what the SCAN RATES in Hz are for your monitor11:59
GlobeCoderim trying to run it in microsoft virtual pc11:59
GlobeCoderi dont mean for the scan rates11:59
GlobeCoderlmfao11:59
GlobeCoderim not that dumb11:59
vbgunzHappy Thanksgiving All!11:59
ArDzits thanksgiving?11:59
thewayofzenGlobeCoder,  then perhaps you need to ask your question with all the information involved so that people know what you are trying to do11:59
Zedughgimmulf,  in your xorg.conf file, device section, what driver is specified for your video card?11:59
jkl-still 1 min to thanksgiving :P11:59
thewayofzenGlobeCoder, good luck.11:59
GlobeCoder...11:59
GlobeCoderlmao..11:59
gimmulfZedugh:  ati, i've also tried "vga"11:59

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