[12:00] <LjL> oblib: yeah, run sensors-detect, and it'll probably tell you you need to "modprobe" some modules
[12:00] <rubem> Seveas Look like i'll have to let my computer turned on all nigth long :P
[12:01] <rubem> anyone know the php ide named Tulip?
[12:01] <Quistis> i know Tulip is a network card driver
[12:01] <PluckyBlade> I've just done dist-upgrade to breezy..
[12:01] <joft> Seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4940
[12:02] <PluckyBlade> all good except changing to a virtual console crashes X.org when I change back
[12:02] <joft> that's from dpkg --configure --pending
[12:02] <Seveas> hmm
[12:02] <Seveas> something definitely borked then
[12:02] <Seveas> try this now: apt-get -f install
[12:02] <Seveas> and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-dekstop if you use kubuntu)
[12:02] <r3nd3z> anyone know how i can find different harddrives? I got 2 connected, and i dont know how to fint the last one
[12:03] <joft> Seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4941
[12:03] <sethk> PluckyBlade, that's easy, just never change back.  :)
[12:03] <joft> from -f install
[12:03] <PluckyBlade> lol@sethk
[12:03] <PluckyBlade> sad thing is suspend to ram works a dream.. until it wakes up :)
[12:03] <krak`nix> r3nd3z: does it show up in system > administration > disks?
[12:04] <joft> hm, it didn't work?
[12:04] <Seveas> it seems to have worked
[12:04] <Seveas> but the output is incomplete
[12:04] <Seveas> what's after the unpacking line?
[12:04] <joft> yeah that's what i mean
[12:04] <joft> a bunch of errors
[12:04] <r3nd3z> krak`nix, hmm, cant find any "disks" there
[12:05] <joft> where's the apt error log?
[12:05] <Seveas> can you put the errors on the pastebin or in a private chat
[12:05] <Seveas> there is none
[12:05] <Seveas> apt-get -f install 2>&1 | python pastebin
[12:05] <PluckyBlade> other bad news is amarok dies each time it changes song.
[12:05] <gar-> ok i use NdisWrapper i loaded the driver and work say driver present but the usb adapter dont go on and i get error when i try to do ifcofing wlan0 or ifup wlan0 any idea how i can put it to work
[12:05] <krak`nix> r3nd3z: you're on breezy?
[12:06] <mrkoje> has anyone had the xorg ATI x700 problem?
[12:06] <fluvvell> PluckyBlade: I have a similar effect on the laptop, I blame the acpid because it comes up all hot and bothered after any sleep.
[12:06] <joft> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4943
[12:06] <oblib> LjL, okay, I have detected a module, how do I check the temp of the cpu?
[12:06] <r3nd3z> krak`nix, , hmm, no, the one before that
[12:06] <gar-> ok i use NdisWrapper i loaded the driver and work say driver present but the usb adapter dont go on and i get error when i try to do ifcofing wlan0 or ifup wlan0 any idea how i can put it to work
[12:07] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get clean
[12:07] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get -f install
[12:07] <fluvvell> gar-; have you looked at iwconfig?
[12:07] <gar-> yeap
[12:07] <gar-> i say i dont have wlan0
[12:07] <PluckyBlade> fluvvell -- everything was fine on hoary though..
[12:07] <gar-> only show 3 on the list
[12:08] <LjL> oblib: type "sensors"
[12:08] <krak`nix> r3nd3z: ah ok, im on breezy :(
[12:08] <fluvvell> PluckyBlade, the laptop is still on hoary lol!  I've got one of the desktops running on breezy upgrade ok
[12:08] <mrkoje> !dbkg
[12:08] <ubotu> mrkoje: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:08] <joft> done, looks like same errors
[12:08] <LjL> oblib: there is also a package "sensord" which can monitor your sensors, log them and signal alarms
[12:08] <r3nd3z> krak`nix,  ah, okey
[12:08] <Seveas> joft, including the apt-get clean?
[12:08] <fluvvell> PluckyBlade, but want to upgrade laptop as well.  Not had a lot of luck with suspend at all!
[12:08] <oblib> LjL, that's awesome, thanks.
[12:08] <joft> yes
[12:08] <LjL> oblib: or, you can install some Gnome or KDE frontend that can sit as a tray icon
[12:08] <oblib> LjL, that was my next question
[12:08] <Zedugh> joft, did you get you SegFault problem fixed?
[12:08] <gar-> fluvvell i try that one only show lo an etch0 and stio notting about wlan0
[12:08] <joft> no
[12:09] <fseek> hi
[12:09] <TokenBad> when installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?
[12:09] <Seveas> joft, ok, then apt-get -f --force-overwrite install
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, it might not be wlan0, mine comes up as eth1
[12:09] <oblib> LjL, any ideas on what an appropriate max temp should be for a Celeron?
[12:09] <PluckyBlade> Suspend has been good on this one -- Dell latitude D400
[12:09] <gar-> yes
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, still another has a different interface name
[12:09] <joft> i'll try that next, i'm in the middle of -f dist-upgrade
[12:09] <gar-> but mine is a usbwireless adapter
[12:09] <LjL> oblib: no, i have no clue
[12:09] <gar-> DWL-G122
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, yes I see.
[12:09] <joft> actually i have to go out for a while now, i'll try what you said when i get back
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, which configuration method did you use?
[12:10] <oblib> Anyone, what is a safe max temperature for an intel celeron CPU?
[12:10] <gar-> and also i have a ethernet card on the laptop that one the system get it it get the wireless adapter to on devices
[12:10] <LjL> oblib: type "apt-cache search sensor" for a nice selection of X, Gnome and KDE (as well as textmode) clients to monitor the sensors
[12:10] <oblib> LjL, thanks for the help
[12:10] <joft> if you wanted to suggest anything else pm it to me or i won't see it
[12:10] <purplefeltangel> can Archive Manager handle .zip files?
[12:10] <gar-> NdisWrapper
[12:10] <gar-> sudo ndiswrapper -i file.inf
[12:10] <navarone> purple> yes
[12:11] <purplefeltangel> navarone: thanks
[12:11] <fluvvell> gar-, ok. so after ndsiwrapper set up what did you do then?
[12:11] <LjL> oblib: there is also "hddtemp" to monitor your hard drives' temperature. ksensors (a KDE applet) uses it as well as lm-sensors
[12:11] <mipe> Hello. What should I do, my battery icons show right value?
[12:12] <navarone> Anyone else use stellarium prog? v nice
[12:12] <oblib> LjL, how long have hard drives had temp monitoring stuff? I haven't heard of that before, I'm using an old 3 gig right now
[12:12] <trappist> mipe: you want them to show the wrong value?
[12:12] <gar-> fluvvell i did modprobe NdisWrapper
[12:12] <gar-> NdisWrapper -m
[12:12] <LjL> oblib: i'm not sure, to be honest. i think it was quite recently, i guess your HD doesn't have it, but i don't really know
[12:12] <fluvvell> gar-, and the driver lists when you do lsmod ?
[12:13] <gar-> lsmod???
[12:13] <gar-> no idea
[12:13] <rabar> is there a difference between extreme digital and excellent digital camera cards?
[12:13] <mifritscher> oblib, my 80 GB IMB HDD has it, my 6 GB FUITISU HDD not
[12:13] <Zedugh> navarone, i use stellarium and kstars, both nice, kstars more functional
[12:13] <mifritscher> I thought that IBM was one of the first
[12:13] <navarone> Zedugh> yes stellarium has the real wow factor tho...kinda like celstia
[12:14] <LjL> oblib: i think you should just try installing "hddtemp", then "sudo hddtemp /dev/hdX" will tell you whether you have the sensor or not
[12:14] <oblib> thanks mifritscher. So I'm guessing this one doesn't. okay LjL.
[12:14] <gar-> fluvvell i never did lsmod
[12:14] <bloc76> is there a php4 package for breezy. I only see php5.
[12:14] <mifritscher> I use webmin-smarty to get this info ;)
[12:15] <mifritscher> bloc76, yes, try apt-cache search php4
[12:15] <mifritscher> (but why do you need php4?)
[12:16] <mipe> trappist:Sorry this my mistake I have wrong value on my batteri icons, but when I run in shell command acpi, everything show ok.
[12:16] <navarone> Zedugh> was just looking at another astronomy prog... http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/   looks very good but needs to be installed by source. I have no luck with that...lol
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: i only see php5. i need php 4 because that's what we use on our servers
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: is it in universe?
[12:16] <mifritscher> hmm, even with the apt-cache serach-command?
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: yes
[12:16] <mifritscher> I thought php4 was in the main...
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: apt-cache search php4
[12:17] <mifritscher> hmm, seems to be in universe...
[12:18] <mifritscher> Filename: pool/universe/p/php4/php4-common_4.4.0-3_i386.deb
[12:18] <bloc76> mifritscher: k, thanks
[12:18] <fluvvell> gar-, I take it you've read http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu ?
[12:18] <bloc76> mifritscher: hopefully this indicates the beginnings of real movement to php5 :)
[12:18] <mifritscher> no problem :)
[12:19] <TokenBad> when installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?
[12:19] <gar-> fluvvell i read alot of them with the same thing
[12:19] <fluvvell> gar-, so what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?
[12:20] <Mabus06> fluvvell, man ndiswrapper
[12:20] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  Are there any known issues with the ATI flgrx drivers and Breezy (kernel 2.6.12-9-k7)  I'm tearing my hair out, trying to get them to work.
[12:20] <gar-> everything run fine no problem the only thing is a i canot get the device to go up to work to detect on the network confg
[12:21] <colloron> i'm runing ubuntu hoary from live cd. what can i use to open up a .rar file?
[12:22] <DarthFrog> colloron: You need the unrar program.  It might not be on the CD.
[12:22] <colloron> right so i've done apt-get update but its still not there
[12:22] <d03boy> sethk: thanks for all the help. Grub is back to normal :)
[12:22] <sethk> d03boy, good to hear.  I've gone through that process several times, as you may have guessed.  :)
[12:23] <gar-> fluvvell the only thing i notice is Installed ndis drivers:
[12:23] <gar-> mrv8ka51        driver present, hardware present
[12:23] <amonkey> does anyone know how to get sound to work with google video? everything else seems to play fine.
[12:23] <mrkoje> Does anyone know if i can use (haven't tried it yet and don't want to waste time) If i can install the ATI linux proprierty drivers with Breezy Live?
[12:23] <fluvvell> Mabus06, its gar- that is using ndiswrapper,
[12:23] <d03boy> Does anyone have any suggestions for a wireless manager? Mine doesnt work so well--it shows that it can see my network and everything but never actually establishes a connection :(
[12:23] <gar-> fluvvell but i dont say hardware present
[12:23] <jorge_> hey guys, how do i log out of KDE through konsole
[12:23] <DarthFrog> mrkoje: I'm fighting with the ATI drivers right now.  AFAICT, they don't work with Breezy.
[12:24] <Seveas> jorge_, not
[12:24] <gar-> fluvvell it say driver present but dont say hardware present
[12:24] <d03boy> jorge_: I think you actually have to kill the process
[12:24] <Seveas> or by restarting kdm
[12:24] <jorge_> Seveas: what?
[12:24] <jorge_> not?
[12:24] <jorge_> not is a command?
[12:24] <jorge_> or...
[12:24] <Seveas> no
[12:24] <mrkoje> DarthFrog: pain in the ass
[12:24] <Seveas> it is not possible unless you use the command to restart kdm
[12:24] <jorge_> how can I, I dont have access to the taskbar
[12:24] <gar-> fluvvell do u think it could me the driver???
[12:24] <mrkoje> darthFrog: isn't it
[12:24] <jorge_> I'm using gdm not kdm
[12:24] <fluvvell> gar-, what? is the hardware plugged in?   you just said" mrv8ka51        driver present, hardware present "
[12:24] <Seveas> DarthFrog, use the latest drivers from ati.com
[12:24] <jorge_> nevermind brb
[12:24] <phin3as> Seveas, do you code functionally in any language?
[12:24] <Seveas> they work like a charm
[12:24] <fluvvell> gar-, is that what it said or not?
[12:24] <gar-> that is a sample
[12:25] <gar-> that is not actualy my driver and my wireless usb adapter is plugin
[12:25] <jorge_> shutdown
[12:25] <mrkoje> Seveas: The ATI Linux Propriety Drivers right? Can we Install those even with a live cd
[12:25] <gar-> it only say driver present but it dont say hardware present
[12:25] <DarthFrog> Seveas: I am, darnit.
[12:25] <Seveas> phin3as, that is quite off topic in here, so if you want to continue this discussion -> #ubuntu-offtopic and yes I can code in quite a few languages
[12:25] <d03boy> anyone know what I need to do in order to make it so ubuntu will actually "enable" my wireless when it is available?
[12:25] <d03boy> i'm not sure if there is a special app I need to use..
[12:25] <fluvvell> gar-, and the output of ndiswrapper -l   on *your* computer says...   what exactly?
[12:25] <Seveas> mrkoje, yes, but it'll be lost on updates
[12:26] <gar-> say
[12:26] <phin3as> Seveas, my apologies. I was merely wondering
[12:26] <mrkoje> as long as it wil get x up for 10 minutes i think I will be ok
[12:26] <gar-> PRISMUSB driver present
[12:26] <gar-> that all
[12:26] <mrkoje> windows update killed my raid!!!!!!!!!
[12:26] <fluvvell> gar-, thanks. got that
[12:26] <TokenBad> anyone? please?
[12:26] <mrkoje> i think I am going to just install linux on that damn cpu now and emulate windows
[12:27] <gar-> fluvvell what do u think?
[12:27] <fluvvell> gar-, I'm thinking along the lines of what usb support is there for wireless adaptors.
[12:27] <bigfoot1> how do i kill VLC Media player? I've tried xkill, but it doesn't work. If I have to do a command, please tell me the exact command.
[12:27] <gar-> that driver i downloaded from the dlink ftp
[12:27] <Seveas> fluvvell, USB wireless usually is a PITA
[12:27] <gar-> PITA????
[12:28] <Xenguy> bigfoot1: pkill  ?
[12:28] <fluvvell> Seveas, not surprised really
[12:28] <fluvvell> Seveas, usb gives me a few headaches in other places too.
[12:28] <Astxist> bigfoot1, try kill
[12:28] <gar-> i bin all day trying to figured it out
[12:28] <trappist> bigfoot1: pgrep vlc
[12:28] <TokenBad> hmmm..maybe I am not being seen
[12:28] <bigfoot1> trappist:
[12:28] <bigfoot1> trappist: pgrep vlc
[12:29] <bigfoot1> 17776
[12:29] <fluvvell> gar-, do you have any other wireless adaptors you can try?  eg pci card ?
[12:29] <bigfoot1> now what
[12:29] <trappist> bigfoot1: kill 17776
[12:29] <gar-> fluvvell btw im using  ndiswrapper that come with ubuntu 5.04
[12:29] <gar-> nope
[12:29] <bigfoot1> trappist: it worked!
[12:29] <bigfoot1> thank you
[12:29] <bigfoot1> kill is stronger than xkill, i guess
[12:30] <Mabus06> I have doom3 for linux, but it runs incredibly choppy. What can I do short of getting new hardware to improve it? I have 1gig of memory, a 2.8ghz processor, but only my onboard video card.
[12:30] <ghostpsalm> When compiling a kernel - is there any 'guide' to what each selection is?  And/Or can you download a minimal '.config' and add my desired drivers/modules myself?
[12:30] <trappist> kill goes after the process.  xkill is for a window.
[12:30] <fluvvell> gar-, is this for a laptop?
[12:30] <gar-> yeap
[12:30] <gar-> gateway solo 9550
[12:30] <fletch33> i am trying to set up frenx and i have my client working fine but i am lost with gettingmy server set up. both computers are running ubu and i have gone thru all the stpes on the wiki. i really need this and i have been working on it for days and i am at the end of my rope. does anyone have a moment that can help me see what i am missing
[12:30] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, the general advice is to use ubuntu kernel sources and change .config to your needs
[12:30] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, and *always* use make-kpkg
[12:30] <navarone> Mabus> with onboard vid you should lower graphic mode until game improves in fps
[12:31] <fluvvell> gar-, did you get the usb adaptor before putting ubuntu on, or is the wlan adaptor a recent aquisition?
[12:31] <gar-> yes
[12:31] <gar-> is working now fine
[12:31] <gar-> on windows
[12:31] <gar-> -_-
[12:31] <fluvvell> gar-, yes which?
[12:31] <ghostpsalm> Seveas: Why always use makekpkg?  And do you mean cp and 'make oldconfig'?
[12:31] <gar-> windows xp
[12:31] <gar-> sux
[12:31] <Seveas> no
[12:31] <Xenguy> trappist: pgrep is cool - never heard of that before
[12:32] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, search the wiki for kernel
[12:32] <Xenguy> trappist: used to doing ps aux
[12:32] <Xenguy> |grep
[12:32] <Seveas> it has more detailed instructions
[12:32] <trappist> yeah me too :)
[12:32] <Xenguy> trappist: pkill seems to work more consistently than killall I've found recently too
[12:32] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  I have, and it suggest 'ByHand' if you are going to re-build it often.  My hope is to get the most minimal of kernel's (obviously that still wrks).
[12:32] <fluvvell> gar-, as painful as it may seem, you may be better with a pcmcia card that has drivers in linux/ubuntu already.
[12:33] <TokenBad> someone tell me what this means:    ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[12:33] <d03boy> can anyone recommend a good wireless connection manager
[12:33] <trappist> yeah pkill if you trust that you aren't gonna kill anything else
[12:33] <gar-> fluvvell but the beutifull part is that the ubuntu detect the usb adapter wireless card and everything on the device management
[12:33] <ghostpsalm> TokenBad: I am not sure, it may mean your kernel has not the drivers to run it successfully.  Or libraries.
[12:33] <blanky> my sound in firefox isnt working (flash)
[12:34] <trappist> TokenBad: you have to give it a configuration directive to start either standalone or as an inetd service
[12:34] <fletch33> ooh please help woth freenx anyone
[12:34] <TokenBad> trappist, it didn't ask
[12:34] <purplefeltangel> how do i install fonts?
[12:34] <trappist> TokenBad: ask?  you put it in your config file
[12:34] <bimberi> d03boy: network-manager looks good (although i haven't used it much)
[12:34] <TokenBad> what config?
[12:34] <d03boy> k
[12:34] <TokenBad> the proftpd.conf?
[12:34] <trappist> yes
[12:35] <fletch33> i am half way there and have everything installed on client and server but something is worng on the server end
[12:35] <TokenBad> ok once I edit..how would I restart it?
[12:35] <blanky> wtf, something's goign on with my pc
[12:35] <toresn> how do i switch between the four desktops?
[12:36] <pjssilva> toresn: crtl + alt + arrow
[12:36] <Seveas> toresn, click on the desktop switching applet
[12:36] <bimberi> toresbe: ctrl-alt-rightarrow (and -leftarrow)
[12:36] <TokenBad> trappist, once I edit the config..how restart it?
[12:36] <bimberi> toresn ^^ (sry toresbe)
[12:37] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  Why do you suggest *always* using make-kpkg.  Is there any problems making a lightweight kernel by hand?
[12:37] <toresn> pjssilva: ah. ok. is it possible to get more workspaces?
[12:37] <blanky> guys im so scared, I think my system is effed up. Firefox wont play files anymore, and flash doesnt have sound
[12:37] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, make-kpkg can make lightweight kernels too
[12:37] <pjssilva> toresn: Right click on the applet and configure it.
[12:37] <blanky> :'(
[12:37] <Seveas> the advantage is that it makes .deb files and initrds for you automatically
[12:37] <trappist> TokenBad: well that depends on how you're running it.  if it's an inetd service, restart inetd.  if you have an init script, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart.  if you just said ./proftpd, kill it and restart it.
[12:37] <j813> Hi guys
[12:38] <Seveas> toresn, rightclick on the panel and select preferences
[12:38] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  Explain how?  The Wiki says 'but it's also rather heavyweight'... and seems not to suggest otherwise?
[12:38] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, it just runs make bzimage modules-install (etc...)
[12:38] <trappist> Seveas: funny you should mention that, I couldn't get make-kpkg to make an initrd to save my life.
[12:38] <Seveas> and packages it nicely into a deb
[12:39] <bimberi> toresn: you can also keyboard shortcuts to switch to Desktop # available (but unconfigured by default) in System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:39] <Seveas> trappist, actually, I lied: the initrd is made by the configure step of the .deb package
[12:39] <j813> trappist what's your time there?
[12:39] <blanky> hey guys, in debfoster, what do i have to press to remove a package, r, or p
[12:39] <TokenBad> umm...ok...I don't think its running at all then...
[12:39] <trappist> j813: 1739
[12:39] <TokenBad> cause I didn't do anything to start it
[12:39] <ghostpsalm> So it replaces a handful of commands?  What is the benefit of it being in /deb format?
[12:39] <Seveas> blanky, r = remove, p = remove and remove all its dependencies that are not needed by others
[12:40] <j813> just slept for while now AM here :)
[12:40] <blanky> thanks i love you
[12:40] <trappist> Seveas: installing the resulting .deb didn't give me an initrd either.  neither did a manual make install.  I simply could not get an initrd for my custom kernel.
[12:40] <basti__> is there any command that will show me all the users that exist on the pc?
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> whoah
[12:40] <Seveas> trappist, make-kpkg --initrd
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> trappist
[12:40] <trappist> Seveas: cool
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> hey trappist *hugs*
[12:40] <trappist> NsOmNiAc: hey dude
[12:41] <purplefeltangel> how do i install fonts?
[12:41] <NsOmNiAc> your trying it out huh ?
[12:41] <bimberi> basti__: cat /etc/passwd
[12:41] <TokenBad> trappist, that fixed it..thanks so much
[12:41] <trappist> NsOmNiAc: I wouldn't call it that.  I'm already in love :)
[12:41] <NsOmNiAc> me too
[12:41] <NsOmNiAc> 8-)
[12:41] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  I guess my real question is, if I run through the entire KernelByHand howto; all I would have lost in comparrisson to make-kpkg is time?
[12:41] <basti__> thank you bimberi
[12:41] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, drop them in ~/.fonts/
[12:41] <purplefeltangel> seveas, thanks
[12:41] <bimberi> basti__: np :)
[12:41] <ghostpsalm> Seveas: And the --append-to-source name thingy?
[12:41] <blanky> I'M SO FRICKIN SCARED! sorry, my firefox wont play flash files and sound isnt there anymore! :'(
[12:42] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, I couldn't give a definite answer, since I never completed either of these guides :)
[12:42] <j813> Guys is it also safe to install 5.10 on a a logical partition, the primary has Windows XP NTFS, others has VFAT.
[12:42] <ghostpsalm> Seveas: Oke.  Cheers.  Maybe I'll let you know...
[12:42] <trappist> ghostpsalm: there's a lot of reasons it's nice to make a .deb.  for one thing, there's a long list of reasons it's better to stay with your distro's package manager whenever possible.
[12:42] <Seveas> j813, yes it is, but you need ext3 for linux
[12:42] <oblib> General quesion: I remember reading about a remote access program similar to vnc. Does anyone know what it's called. It's supposed to be much faster. Has anyone used it?
[12:42] <Seveas> (or anything supported, aka: not fat or ntfs)
[12:43] <bimberi> oblib: freenx
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> seveas, wait, *where* is that exactly?
[12:43] <trappist> oblib: freenk
[12:43] <oblib> that's the one
[12:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell oblib about freenx
[12:43] <trappist> err what he said
[12:43] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, ~/.fonts/
[12:43] <Seveas> the folder named .fonts in your homedir
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> oh ok
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> thanks
[12:43] <fletch33> anyone help with my freenx server problem?
[12:43] <Seveas> fletch33, 'sup?
[12:43] <navarone> purple> you may have to show hidden files to see the .fonts folder
[12:43] <GlobeCoder> can someone help me with ubuntu?
[12:44] <fletch33> Seveas,  going mad setting up the server
[12:44] <j813> Seveas was trying out the 5.10 manual partition & gave me a choice to delete the existing Fedora but was not sure if ti will affect the Windows parts
[12:44] <ghostpsalm> trappist: I did not thin that would matter so with the kernel - it does not boot from a .deb does it?  So it just makes it easier to 'install' or something?
[12:44] <Seveas> !tell GlobeCoder about anyone
[12:44] <Seveas> j813, it will not
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> o
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> alrighty
[12:44] <fletch33> Seveas, client working great but i cant get it going on server i follwed the direxctions on the wiki
[12:44] <purplefeltangel> navarone: how do i do that
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> well this is my problem
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/935/linux7gx.png
[12:44] <Seveas> fletch33, what's there to setup, just apt-get install...
[12:45] <fletch33> Seveas, it says i have the latest version installed but then i cant do anything else
[12:45] <micks> oh my. I've been using ubuntu for more than a year, but today i came across a problem i can't solve in 5.10. i installed it for a friend and he wants to run Kde applications, which i never done. the czech fonts don't display correctly in these applications, although the overall localization works great - i have never used kde on linux, so i'm not sure how to solve this.
[12:45] <trappist> ghostpsalm: easier to install, makes it possible to query relevant files through the package manager, maintain versions, install the same kernel on 100 other boxes, etc.
[12:45] <purplefeltangel> ok, seveas, i r n00b. where is homedir
[12:45] <navarone> purple> go to Places/Home folder and then in the file browser go to View and check Show hidden files
[12:45] <Seveas> fletch33, and what is the error?
[12:45] <Mabus06> how come my sound card isn't outputting any sound?
[12:45] <j813> Guys are you bots? Did you slept already? Joke. Thanks guys!
[12:45] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, /home/your_user_name
[12:45] <fletch33> Seveas, what do u want me to type to find it
[12:45] <Weng> ... Is the netboot install kernel a 2.4 kernel?
[12:46] <Astxist> j813, what is this sleep you speak of ;p ?
[12:46] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, you need more diskspace
[12:46] <ghostpsalm> trappist: Doyou mind explaining 'query relevant files' and why I may want to, and also 'maintain versions'?
[12:46] <robert__> what fonts do you want to install purplefeltangel, there may be a package with them in
[12:46] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, how?
[12:46] <fletch33> Seveas,  i get permission denied
[12:46] <purplefeltangel> seveas: thx but there's no "fonts" folder there..."
[12:46] <Seveas> fletch33, I don't understand the problem: does it fail to install, fail to connect...
[12:46] <Mabus06> can someone help me to get my sound card working? I don't know where to start
[12:46] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, .fonts
[12:46] <Seveas> and you should create it :)
[12:46] <purplefeltangel> seveas: yeah, its not there
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> seveas: well how will that work :/
[12:47] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, repartition, buy a new hard drive, throw away some files....
[12:47] <navarone> purple are you using gui or cli?
[12:47] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, mkdir ~/.fonts
[12:47] <GlobeCoder> :F
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> navarone: gui
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> seveas: ok
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> robert__: arial, comic sans...basically the microsoft webfonts pack
[12:47] <fletch33> Seveas, it says it is installed with the latest version but i have never seen anything else to make options or anything after i choose no key
[12:47] <Mabus06> Seveas, I just put my audio card in my computer and turned it on, but I play rhythmbox and it doesn't play. Where do I start to fix it?
[12:47] <GlobeCoder> cant i just resize the virtual hd Seveas ?
[12:47] <navarone> purple> go to menu item PLaces at top..then Home Folder and in file browser go to View and click show hidden files
[12:48] <trappist> ghostpsalm: you can say dpkg -L kernelpackagename | grep foo and see if you forgot to compile a module, for example... you could make a custom repo with your kernels... mostly there are dozens and dozens of things, and almost all of them come down to: it's better to stick with your distro's package manager wherever feasible.
[12:48] <Seveas> fletch33, at which point do you get the 'permission denied'?
[12:48] <robert__> you want the package msttfonts then
[12:48] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: install the msttcorefonts package from universe
[12:48] <robert__> that's the one
[12:48] <Seveas> Mabus06, wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:48] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: er, *multiverse
[12:48] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, do you run it in vmware?
[12:48] <fletch33> Seveas, when i ran the setup command
[12:48] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: thanks, but my friend also sent me some other fonts that iw ant to install ... :/
[12:48] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, Microsoft Virtual PC 2004
[12:48] <fluvvell> gar-, yes it may detect that its there, this doesn't promise it will all work.
[12:48] <Seveas> fletch33, why would you run a setup command?
[12:48] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, iirc VPC and Ubuntu are not friends
[12:49] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: k
[12:49] <Seveas> but at least increase the virtual harddisk
[12:49] <robert__> purplefeltangel: you'll need to add the universe repository if you haven't already
[12:49] <fletch33> Seveas,  well where can i find it on my computer?
[12:49] <purplefeltangel> robert__: i did
[12:49] <Seveas> fletch33, find what?
[12:49] <GlobeCoder> dam
[12:50] <micks> anybody encountered the kde apps central european fonts problem? how do i point the applications in the direction of the correct fonts - (they're already there and the gtk apps are working ok)?
[12:50] <fletch33> Seveas,  well i ran everyting on the wiki and my client is setup and i ran everything for the server but what now?
[12:50] <Mabus06> can someone help me to get my sound card working? I don't know where to start. I just plugged it in, lspci recognizes it, but it doesn't output sound.
[12:50] <robert__> has anyone noticed weird font kerning issues in firefox?
[12:50] <Seveas> fletch33, connect :)
[12:50] <Seveas> run the client
[12:50] <Seveas> fill in the data for the server
[12:50] <navarone> Mabus> run alsamixer in terminal to see if the output is muted
[12:50] <robert__> like fonts jumping around when you select text?
[12:51] <purplefeltangel> ok, so, i have installed the ms core fonts, but hwat about the other ones my friend sent me?
[12:51] <trappist> micks: kcontrol has a fonts configurator iirc
[12:51] <robert__> not much but its noticable
[12:51] <fletch33> Seveas,  that is where i am lost and i have been searchoing the interner for days
[12:51] <micks> trappist: thanks, i'll look for it
[12:51] <Seveas> fletch33, the client installs a menu entry in applications -> internet
[12:51] <Seveas> use that
[12:51] <j813> Is there an Enterprise Edition, what's the difference & where can I download it? :)
[12:52] <fletch33> Seveas,  i tink something is not right on my server because i never had to choose a password or anything
[12:52] <Seveas> j813, not yet, the diff. is duration of support (3 to 5 years instead of 18 monthd)
[12:52] <GlobeCoder> k Seveas
[12:52] <Seveas> fletch33, password for what?
[12:52] <Mabus06> navarone, nope, it's at 100 but the device it lists is my onboard instead of my pci card
[12:52] <GlobeCoder> you think 16000 mb is enough?
[12:52] <Seveas> the freenx server does not need passwords, it uses system passwords
[12:52] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: copy them into ~/.fonts (as discussed)
[12:52] <j813> thanks Sev
[12:52] <krak`nix> god
[12:52] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: and if the folder doesnt exist, i should just create it?
[12:52] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to enabel automatic updates?.. is there a way in the gui or should I use cron?
[12:52] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, it should be
[12:52] <navarone> Mabus> ddi you use bios or jumpers to disable onboard sound? And what is card?
[12:52] <purplefeltangel> and that will work?
[12:52] <fletch33> Seveas,  well i have to put some info in the client to know where to connect to
[12:52] <GlobeCoder> :P
[12:52] <Mabus06> how do I make ubuntu use my sound card instead of onboard sound?
[12:53] <krak`nix> hate how you cant paste something if you close the app you copied it from
[12:53] <krak`nix> before pasting :(
[12:53] <Seveas> fletch33, the IP address or hostname of the server
[12:53] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: yes, with "mkdir ~/.fonts"
[12:53] <Mabus06> navarone, the card is a C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6
[12:53] <Mabus06> it is recognized by lspci
[12:53] <Seveas> and your username and password on the server
[12:53] <fletch33> Seveas,  i tried both and denied
[12:53] <krak`nix> http://s87055070.onlinehome.us/ted/photo/m3u.png
[12:53] <Mabus06> I will brb after checking BIO
[12:53] <krak`nix> anyone know a fix?
[12:53] <Mabus06> S
[12:53] <navarone> Mabus> and did you disable the onboard sound?
[12:53] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: thanks
[12:53] <Seveas> fletch33, probably because you messed with nxsetup
[12:53] <yukaili> Anybody know how to install Ubuntu on a computer running Windows>
[12:53] <fletch33> Seveas, and the client says please input the password when i try to connect
[12:54] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: no yet, make sure it works first :)
[12:54] <bimberi> *not
[12:54] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, its making the vhd now.
[12:54] <fletch33> Seveas,  it says connection refused
[12:54] <vincent> total noob to linux here, firefox will not connect to most websites, but having have connection to the interner as using it now. fresh install of breezy badger, any help?
[12:55] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: yup, it worked! :D thanks
[12:55] <Seveas> fletch33, then look at your firewall
[12:55] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: great! :) np
[12:55] <fletch33> Seveas, i turned off the firewall and still no luck
[12:55] <Seveas> vincent: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[12:56] <robert__> krak`nix i believe the next version of gnome has a clipboard applet
[12:56] <Seveas> fletch33, make sure port 22 isn't blocked and that the ssh server is installed on the server (if you use the ubuntu packages for freenx, it should all be ok)
[12:56] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: they arent showing up in gaim. should i just restart it?
[12:56] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card but it is providing no output, can anyone offer some advice?
[12:56] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: hm, i guess so
[12:56] <PinTo> l o
[12:57] <fletch33> Seveas,  i did change the ports to 8888 and i put that in the client
[12:57] <ghostpsalm> trappist: How would I make a 'lightweight' kernel with make-kpkg?
[12:57] <Seveas> fletch33, did you do that in the NX server *AND* ssh server and restart the ssh server?
[12:57] <trappist> ghostpsalm: same way you'd do it any other way.  do your make *config, remove stuff you don't need, build.
[12:57] <PinTo> going bak to my problem make Xconfig doesnt work
[12:57] <fletch33> Seveas,  i didnt l;ook in synaptics for anything though
[12:57] <PinTo> i need qt?
[12:57] <mrkoje> I got Breezy live working with ATI now... where would my harddrive be mounted>
[12:58] <vincent> excellent seveas, many thanks for swift and helpful response
[12:58] <fletch33> Seveas,  well idid both and restarted the computer since
[12:58] <navarone> Mabus> try System/Prefer/Sound and make sure server is set to start and that proper device is selected
[12:58] <Seveas> fletch33, sudo nxserver --status
[12:58] <Seveas> fletch33, sudo netstat -tlno
[12:59] <Seveas> put the output of these commands on the pastebin
[12:59] <Seveas> fletch33, sudo netstat -tlnp
[12:59] <fletch33> Seveas,  ok i will try that and let u know what happens
[12:59] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card but it is providing no output, can anyone offer some advice?
[01:04] <Mabus06> i have also set my default sound card to be the pci one I want to use under system, preferences, sound
[01:04] <Mabus06> but again, no output
[01:04] <Mabus06> can anyone help?
[01:04] <ghostpsalm> trappist:  DO you know of a minimal .config that you could download and then menuconfig it to add in only the ones I want?
[01:04] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[01:04] <fletch33> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/30781
[01:04] <Mabus06> ?
[01:04] <lightbright> when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas anyone?
[01:04] <DShepherd> hey
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: hey hey!  you still seeking to get rid off that message about clock at bootime?
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: right on! can you help
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: indeed I can!  Seveas gave me a command that removes it. want it?
[01:04] <fletch33> Seveas,  am i still on i havent seen any new posts
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: removes it? permanently?
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: do you mean disable it?
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: removes it from appearing at bootime, want it or not?
[01:04] <lightbright> ok seems he doesnt want it, ok
[01:04] <lightbright> brb
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: :-D
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: can I borrow it please..
[01:04] <DShepherd> ?
[01:04] <phillijw> waka waka
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: too late :)
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[01:04] <trappist> ghostpsalm: no
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: interesting.. care to break down that line for me
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas what causes this?
[01:04] <hoopdr> hi :) how far away is the next release?
[01:04] <hoopdr> on past experience
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: none at all
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: no I dont!   I just typed it and now I dont see that annoyoing message anymore!  if you want it broken down, yu would have to ask Seveas
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: when has this been happening
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: ok kool
[01:04] !alindeman:*! Regional server split; we're looking into it
[01:04] <Jestre> wee
[01:08] <hoopdr> i was wondering to get badger for a friend now or wait till the next one
[01:08] <lightbright> whats the difference between sudo nautilus and gksudu nautilus ?
[01:08] <DShepherd> gksudo is guo
[01:10] <DShepherd> gui*
[01:11] <zovirl> I installed dvd::rip and used it last week.  Today when I start it up all the fonts are squished together
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: really i dont know
[01:11] <lightbright> DShepherd: what do you know? :P
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: my name
[01:11] <lightbright> DShepherd: what is your name?
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: i think
[01:11] <lightbright> David?
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: not. lightbright :P
[01:11] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[01:11] <lightbright> Seveas: when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas?
[01:11] <hoopdr> actually ignore that question. upgrading it is easily instructed
[01:11] <zovirl> any ideas why?
[01:11] <zovirl> I don't recall changing anything...
[01:11] <lightbright> zovirl: ;)
[01:11] <lightbright> nice word: squished ;)
[01:11] <robert__> DShepherd: update-rc.d simply removes the script that syncs the clock at boot
[01:15] <Mabus06> uh sorry if anyoen answered earlier
[01:15] <Mabus06> but I lagged out
[01:15] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:15] <mrkoje> I just ran Breezy live... where are my windows files at?
[01:15] <DShepherd> robert__: oh ok, why does it take so long anyways? do you know?
[01:18] <lightbright> DShepherd: Darren? :)
[01:18] <DShepherd> lightbright: :)
[01:18] <m_akys> hello, how can I add parameters to a module on boot?
[01:18] <lightbright> m_akys: yes
[01:18] <Seveas> yike
[01:18] <Seveas> freenode probs
[01:18] <robert__> DShepherd: no, but i expect it is a network problem
[01:18] <m_akys> May I edit the file /etc/modutils/xxx?
[01:18] <lightbright> m_akys: Press 'e' to edit the commands before booting
[01:18] <GlobeCoder> searcher`
[01:18] <GlobeCoder> meh
[01:18] <Ayame> Hey, having an issue with a duplicate block on my hard drive. I know fsck will repair it, but I can't run fsck. Can anyone help?
[01:18] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, its installing now.
[01:18] <robert__> DShepherd: but if you add a & at the end of the line /etc/init.d/ntpdate it might not take so long
[01:18] <DShepherd> robert__: how so..
[01:18] <robert__> DShepherd: if you do sudo gedit /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[01:18] <m_akys> I want to pass the parameter ac97_quirk=2 to hte module snd-intel8x0
[01:18] <lightbright> whats the best and easiest way to install Java on 5.10?
[01:18] <m_akys> but if it works good i want to make it persistence
[01:18] <robert__> find the line that starts /usr/sbin/ntpdate and add a & at the end
[01:18] <robert__> this is purely hypothesis
[01:18] <Mabus06> why is this server being so laggy?
[01:18] <robert__> i haven't tried this mind
[01:18] <cevizoglu> !java
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:18] <lightbright> !javadebs
[01:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:18] <m_akys> I'll try pressing 'e' at boot to see if the parameter solve my problem
[01:18] <lightbright> cevizoglu: which one do I download from http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/?
[01:18] <lightbright> m_akys: that will enable you to add paramaters to kernel at bootime
[01:18] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:18] <Ayame> Does ubuntu have a preset root password? I need it to repair my system, outside of the GUI. Otherwise I can't run fsck
[01:18] <m_akys> thanks lightbright
[01:18] <Seveas> mrkoje, on your drive perhaps :)
[01:18] <cevizoglu> lightbright: there are different versions of java, you should pick the one that suits you
[01:18] <Seveas> Ayame, boot into recue mode - it does not need a password
[01:19] <cevizoglu> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp is the most common, I think
[01:19] <Ayame> K, rescue mode, I've seen recovery mode in GRUB but not rescue. Do I need the Live CD for that?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> version 1.5.0 = version 5.0.0. btw
[01:19] <cevizoglu> it's marketing from sun
[01:19] <Seveas> Ayame, recue, recovery -- it's all the same :)
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: I found a command from that website you gave me: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: thats from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:19] <Ayame> Okay, we'll I've done that and it just came to the same end. Enter Password or Control +D. Maybe I've gone wrong somewhere?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> lightbright: if you like the blackdown version, that'll suit you then
[01:19] <lightbright> Ayame: does recovery mean the same as rescue?
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: i just need java for Limewire
[01:19] <Ayame> According to Seveas, it is.
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: how would I know what version Java is best?  Isnt Java all the same?
[01:19] <lightbright> Seveas:  When I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas anyone?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> lightbright: there are sun's versions, and there are the open source versions
[01:19] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: in YOUR opinion,. whats best for limewire? :)  sorry Im confused
[01:19] <sethk> Mabus06, lspci doesn't exactly recognize things
[01:19] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:19] <geargolem> hello How do I upgrade Java from 1.4 to 1.5
[01:19] <cevizoglu> lightbright: I don't know, I don't run limewire
[01:19] <Seveas> grmfl - freenode is b0rking
[01:19] <lightbright> am I on Seveas's ignore? :P
[01:19] <sethk> Mabus06, it just retrieves info from the card
[01:20] <Mabus06> sethk, well it shows up there
[01:20] <lightbright> Seveas: can you not see me anymore?
[01:20] <Seveas> lightbright, no, i'm having problems with my connection
[01:20] <Mabus06> sethk, any advice?
[01:20] <fletch33> Seveas, u stilll there i lost my connection
[01:20] <cevizoglu> lightbright: it will probably work
[01:20] <lightbright> Seveas: ah im glad you see me :)
[01:20] <Mabus06> everyone did, fletch33
[01:20] <Seveas> fletch33, so did I
[01:20] <PinTo> i still cant make xconfig
[01:20] <sethk> Mabus06, what I meant is that showing up there doesn't mean that the kernel knows it
[01:20] <Seveas> anyway, I'm going to bed
[01:20] <fletch33> Seveas, did u get my pastebin
[01:20] <Mabus06> you broke the internet, fletch33... happy? :D
[01:20] <lightbright> cevizoglu: im following the command from the webiste you gave me
[01:20] <fletch33> Mabus06,  damn agagin
[01:20] <lightbright> cevizoglu: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[01:20] <sethk> Mabus06, when you bring up a sound mixer does it show the right sound hardware?
[01:20] <fletch33> Mabus06,  i have to stop doing that
[01:20] <Mabus06> sethk, sound mixer?
[01:20] <cevizoglu> lightbright: yes, you said that
[01:21] <lightbright> Seveas: dont look under the bed, there are monsters there :)
[01:21] <lightbright> Seveas: sweet dreams, night :)
[01:21] <Ayame> Well, the rescue mode lead has given me somewhere to start, I'm reading the documentation now. thanks!
[01:21] <PinTo> i need libincurses5.dev ?
[01:21] <sethk> Mabus06, do you have a little speaker symbol on your gnome bar?
[01:21] <fletch33> Seveas, did u get my paste bin?
[01:21] <sethk> Mabus06, on the right?
[01:21] <cevizoglu> lightbright: I think that's the version I use, I'm not a java buff
[01:21] <Mabus06> yes sethk
[01:21] <lightbright> cevizoglu: did I say that before? hmm, sory :P
[01:21] <sethk> Mabus06, right click it, and do open volume control, that brings up the mixer
[01:21] <Mabus06> sethk, and it's not muted (why does everyone say that? :D)
[01:21] <lightbright> sethk: hello my young friend :)
[01:21] <lightbright> Mabus06: is it plugged into the wall? :)
[01:22] <sethk> Mabus06, everyone says that because occasionally it is muted.  :)
[01:22] <Mabus06> sethk, nope it's showing my onboard still
[01:22] <geargolem> what do I use my info on for, 'fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin'   and get it to work without 'error, missing path'?
[01:22] <lightbright> papabear: hello, where is mommabear today?
[01:22] <PinTo> could n e 1 help me out here plz
[01:22] <sethk> Mabus06, hmm.
[01:22] <Mabus06> lightbright, yes, the speakers are on, turned on, system volume is one and all that stuff
[01:22] <sethk> Mabus06, well, as long as the volume control thing shows the onboard, that's what is going to be used (or tried, anyway)
[01:22] <PinTo> i cant make xconfig ....i've done xhost
[01:22] <Mabus06> it's nothing blatantly retarded
[01:23] <Mabus06> sethk, I want to use my PCI not the onboard
[01:23] <PinTo> =and i have done make xconfig in cd linux-2.6.14 still nofin
[01:23] <sethk> Mabus06, yes, I understand, what I meant is that it isn't happening
[01:23] <PinTo> it tried but it didnt work
[01:23] <Weng> If I want to run a console command at every boot, but before login, where do I put it?
[01:23] <Mabus06> sethk, so where should I start to fix it?
[01:24] <sethk> PinTo, you can install ncurses and do make menuconfig, but xconfig should be working
[01:24] <lightbright> Mabus06: ok
[01:24] <sethk> Mabus06, can you turn the onboard off in the BIOS?
[01:24] <lightbright> Mabus06: and have yoy installed all multimedia files?
[01:24] <Mabus06> sethk, yes I could do that
[01:24] <Mabus06> sethk, it is set to "auto" right now
[01:24] <Mabus06> lightbright, what multimedia files?
[01:24] <sethk> Mabus06, try turning it off, see if the kernel finds the other sound hardware
[01:24] <PinTo> sethk it aint workin i dont even have n e thing in synaptic
[01:25] <cevizoglu> I have a brand new installed system and I'm trying to reinstall 982 .deb's which were previously in /var/cache/apt/archives... how would I do that from hard disk?  would I add the path to my sources.list?
[01:25] <sethk> PinTo, for ncurses, you mean?
[01:25] <fletch33> Seveas,  u still here
[01:25] <lightbright> Mabus06: type this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[01:25] <PinTo> yeah
[01:25] <fletch33> Seveas,  u were my only hope :)
[01:25] <Mabus06> lightbright, nothing was installed by that command, so I assume I have it all
[01:25] <sethk> PinTo, when I search for ncurses I get about 20 lines
[01:25] <lightbright> Mabus06: does sound work when you chose it from System/preferences/Sound ?
[01:25] <sethk> PinTo, you don't?
[01:26] <PinTo> no i dont have ncurses in synaptic
[01:26] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound
[01:26] <sethk> PinTo, your repositories must not be set up correctly
[01:26] <Mabus06> lightbright, sound work? what do you mean? It is listed under the available devices, and I alraedy set it to my PCI card
[01:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  and then Sound Events
[01:26] <geargolem> what do I use my info on for, 'fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin'   and get it to work without 'error, missing path'?
[01:26] <sethk> PinTo, do settings/repositories.  how many repositories do you list?
[01:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  just follow what I say for now
[01:27] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose Sound Events
[01:27] <PinTo> sethk i'm in windows at the mo
[01:27] <lightbright> Mabus06:  you there yet?
[01:27] <sethk> PinTo, you should have seven.
[01:27] <Mabus06> lightbright, sound events I'm at
[01:27] <PinTo> could u give me a quick walkthrough
[01:27] <Mabus06> lightbright, but none of them play when I click play
[01:27] <navarone> lightbright> he may be off to looka  t athread I sent him about the problem
[01:27] <PinTo> just a brief 1
[01:27] <lightbright> Mabus06: then click on any wav file and chose PLAY!  do you hear anything?
[01:27] <PinTo> plz
[01:27] <lightbright> navarone: ok
[01:27] <sethk> PinTo, cd 5.10 binary, 5.10 update source, 5.10 updates binary, 5.10 "breezy badger" source, 5.10 "breezy badger" binary, 5.10 security source, and 5.10 security binary
[01:28] <navarone> mabus> you get pm?
[01:28] <lightbright> just trying to help :)
[01:28] <sethk> PinTo, if you don't have all of them, use the add repository button until you do
[01:28] <Mabus06> lightbright, no it does not play
[01:28] <PinTo> right thnx
[01:28] <Mabus06> navarone, yes, checking what you said too.... multitasking
[01:28] <varsendagger> hey how can you find out what brand you cd rom is?
[01:28] <CArenas2> can someone help me with a package upgrade problem?
[01:28] <sethk> PinTo, sometimes you have to add the source ones slightly indirectly
[01:28] <lightbright> Mabus06: do you have enabled Enable sound Server as startup?
[01:28] <PinTo> ok
[01:28] <sethk> PinTo,  for example, if your menu shows 5.10 updates binary.  The way you add source is....
[01:29] <lightbright> Mabus06:  under General, does it show a sound card?
[01:29] <sethk> PinTo, you click on 5.10 updates binary, click on edit, change it to source, then click on add, and add updates binary
[01:29] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose General! Under Default Sound Card, what does it say?
[01:29] <sethk> PinTo, because you won't find any of the "source" varieties on the add menu
[01:29] <sethk> PinTo, that's not obvious, you would think they would be on the add menu
[01:30] <PinTo> ok
[01:30] <Mabus06> lightbright, it used to say my intel onboard, but I changed it to my PCI before coming here for help
[01:30] <PinTo> i'll check it out
[01:30] <lightbright> navarone: may I ask you something about Terminal?
[01:30] <lightbright> Mabus06:  click on right drop down menu!  what does it offer you?
[01:31] <sethk> PinTo, hopefully that's not too confusing; it's harder to explain than to actually do
[01:31] <Mabus06> lightbright, my pci and my onboard... as I said I already switched it to my pci (what I want to use but won't let me)
[01:31] <kafffe> driver to emu 0404 sound card does it exsist??
[01:32] <lightbright> Mabus06: try the other one then
[01:32] <pistolero> someone can tell me what is the command in the keyboard to leave the X mode?
[01:32] <fletch33> anyone help with the server for freenx when i type "/usr/NX/bin/nxserver -start"  terminal syay no such file or directory. ireally need this to work and my client is fine
[01:33] <tck> lightbright, ctrl+alt+F1-F6
[01:33] <Mabus06> lightbright, that's what it was at by default... what does that solve? that's my onboard audio, which worked before but I want my sound card to work
[01:33] <lightbright> pistolero: ctrl+alt+F2
[01:33] <pistolero> lightbright,
[01:33] <pistolero> nao
[01:33] <pistolero> no
[01:33] <lightbright> Mabus06:  so you had sound before then?
[01:33] <Mabus06> lightbright, yes I did, with the onboard
[01:33] <tck> oh i meant to say pistolero hehe
[01:34] <lightbright> Mabus06: why fix something that is not broken :)
[01:34] <lightbright> tck: hehe ;)
[01:34] <lightbright> Hobbsee: hello again
[01:34] <sethk> Mabus06, Shutting off the onboard sound could help.  I've seen it work.  It  might convince the kernel to configure the modules it needs for the pci one
[01:34] <Hobbsee> hi lightbright
[01:35] <fletch33> my freenx client asks for a password to connect but i never set 1 up on the server
[01:35] <slide> Does the server install include gnome? If not, is it better to install server and then gnome, or the normal install and then whatever services i need?
[01:35] <mcadory> pistoler: in x you have to press ctrl and alt and F*.  once at a terminal just alt and F*.
[01:35] <lightbright> Mabus06: did you go into your BIOS and disable onbaord sound first?
[01:35] <Mabus06> nope
[01:35] <Mabus06> should I?
[01:35] <Mabus06> it's set to "auto"
[01:35] <cevizoglu> how do I add a location on my hard disk to sources.list?
[01:36] <sethk> Mabus06, we know, we want it set to "off"
[01:36] <Mabus06> okay well.... going to go disable onboard sound then
[01:36] <lightbright> sethk: yes good point indeed!  the onbaord is still activated and then ubuntu wants to use that only, but he chose something else, hence, no sound
[01:36] <cevizoglu> was sources.list designed to handle a configuration like that?
[01:36] <lightbright> Mabus06:  you did disable the onboard sound in your BIOS didnt you? :)
[01:36] <cevizoglu> nm, I found it
[01:36] <sethk> lightbright, not always, but when they use the same IRQ that tends to happen, I've noticed.
[01:36] <GorillaFromBeyon> hello everyone
[01:36] <lightbright> sethk: yeah
[01:36] <BadMackTuck> YO GORILLA
[01:37] <fletch33> how do i find or setup my username or password on my freenx server
[01:37] <BadMackTuck> damn caps
[01:37] <tarheelcoxn> cevizoglu: what's the line you added?
[01:37] <lightbright> GorillaFromBeyon: hello King Kong
[01:38] <cevizoglu> tarheelcoxn: hold on..
[01:39] <GorillaFromBeyon> maybe some of you can help me, I managed to install my ubuntu 5.10 on an ancient machine with faulty cdplayer, using the "server" option and after a few attempts I actually completed the process. Is there a sort of automatic way now to "switch" to a full installation from the console ? (I hope the question is not extremely dumb and please forgive my english)
[01:39] <gdgani> where can i get more recent kernel packages for ubuntu ?
[01:39] <lightbright> gdgani: use aptitude
[01:40] <cevizoglu> tarheelcoxn: file:/home/jason/debian stable main contrib non-free
[01:40] <Mabus06> lightbright, sethk.... disabled
[01:40] <sethk> GorillaFromBeyon, if you don't want a server, then installing a server is not a good thing to do
[01:40] <Mabus06> sound still doesn't work
[01:40] <tarheelcoxn> GorillaFromBeyon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <sethk> GorillaFromBeyon, do expert and install a minimal system, then install more
[01:40] <gdgani> lightbright...i need kernel verstion at least 2.6.13
[01:40] <sethk> Mabus06, it was worth a try, anyway.
[01:40] <GorillaFromBeyon> i used the server option because it was indicated as the "minimal installation"
[01:40] <sethk> Mabus06, check the mixer again, if you haven't (yet)
[01:40] <lightbright> gdgani: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[01:40] <lightbright> gdgani: why?
[01:40] <Mabus06> sethk, what mixer?
[01:40] <rokaholic> does apt have something like portage's emerge --inject/ packages.provided file?
[01:40] <gdgani> notebook problems
[01:40] <sethk> Mabus06, you call it the volume control I think
[01:41] <gdgani> turion chip with ati xpress200 chipset..
[01:41] <gdgani> my system clock ist 2 times faster
[01:41] <lightbright> Mabus06:  go back into Sound and chose your right card now
[01:41] <rokaholic> i installed a package from source and i want apt-get to view it as a viable dependency
[01:41] <sethk> kmix is the one I prefer, but there is also xmix, etc.
[01:41] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose General! Under Default Sound Card, what does it say now?
[01:41] <tarheelcoxn> sethk: I was under the impression that the "server" install was just the normal install without the "ubuntu-desktop" set of packages
[01:41] <gdgani> only newer kernels fixes the proble without needing to disabled apic
[01:41] <Mabus06> already did that lightbright
[01:41] <Mabus06> lightbright, it was blank by default but I changed it back to the pci card
[01:41] <lightbright> Mabus06:  enable sound server at startup?
[01:42] <lightbright> Mabus06:  ok chose also enable sound server at startup , and try a reboot
[01:42] <Mabus06> lightbright, it was already set to checked
[01:42] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, its about 80% done
[01:42] <lightbright> Mabus06: what card is it?
[01:42] <nickrud> rokaholic, look at equivs, that should suit your purposes
[01:42] <lightbright> Mabus06:  is the card properly seated in the system unit?
[01:43] <Mabus06>  C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, we've done all the easy things, now you have a real problem to deal with
[01:43] <Mabus06> i believe so, lightbright, as it shows up in lspci
[01:43] <lightbright> Mabus06:  is the speakers in the right plug. I know you said yes before, but doulbe check :P
[01:43] <DShepherd> lightbright: sudo apt-get install linux-686 <-- does this depend on your processor?
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, you might try a modprobe
[01:43] <Mabus06> lightbright, the green one, yeah
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, remember, showing up in lspci means NOTHING
[01:43] <rokaholic> nickrud:  where is that?
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, I explained that to you.
[01:43] <tarheelcoxn> sethk: am I wrong? what's the difference between the normal install and the server install if not the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[01:43] <admrl> does anyone use the ubuntu plf repos
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, it just means the card is there.  :)
[01:43] <Mabus06> sethk, well it means it's plugged in at least?
[01:44] <Mabus06> sethk, that was the question
[01:44] <nickrud> rokaholic, it's a package, apt-cache show equivs will give you the basics
[01:44] <admrl> i was using them for the win32 codecs
[01:44] <sethk> Mabus06, well, at least part way.  I know, I was joking.  :)
[01:44] <rokaholic> nickrud: thanks
[01:44] <GorillaFromBeyon> so I could go to "not installed packages" on aptitude and install them, is it that simple ?
[01:44] <admrl> but then i saw the enemy territory does anyone know if thats included in the ubuntu plf repos yet
[01:44] <sethk> tarheelcoxn, there is also stuff installed for the server that is skipped for the desktop
[01:44] <lightbright> Mabus06: have you every heard sound at all with that card before on other OS's?
[01:44] <Mabus06> so what about modprobe, sethk ?
[01:44] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: server option was fine, what processor and how much RAM do you have?
[01:45] <Mabus06> lightbright, yes, I even had it working with ubuntu on my last install
[01:45] <sethk> tarheelcoxn, but what I meant is that you don't have the correct foundation and you open yourself up to any glitches in the package manager.  There may not be any, but there are almost always glitches everywhere
[01:45] <nickrud> rokaholic, but, the better choice might be to turn the source into a package
[01:45] <GorillaFromBeyon> that is an AMD K6 and i have 64 megs of ram
[01:45] <lightbright> Mabus06:  so its worked before on ubuntu and all of a sudden it stopped working?
[01:45] <DShepherd> lightbright: sudo apt-get install linux-686 <-- does this depend on your processor?
[01:45] <lightbright> DShepherd: what processor do you have?
[01:45] <sethk> Mabus06, see if doing modprobe makes the kernel install any additional modules.  It's unlikely, but you should try it before moving on to more extreme measures
[01:45] <Mabus06> lightbright, well, it's spent time in another comp, and this comp has reinstalled ubuntu a few times
[01:45] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: hm, gnome will be a bit heavy for that
[01:45] <GorillaFromBeyon> i know
[01:45] <DShepherd> lightbright: avoiding my question are you?
[01:45] <sethk> DShepherd, 686 is for 686 processors (duh)
[01:45] <Mabus06> sethk, what do I do for a modprobe? :S
[01:46] <DShepherd> sethk: duh DShepherd
[01:46] <sethk> Mabus06, just try a modeprobe *
[01:46] <lightbright> Mabus06:  had it ever worked under Ubuntu before is what I was wondering
[01:46] <sethk> DShepherd, :)
[01:46] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: i'd give xubuntu-desktop a go  - "aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:46] <lightbright> DShepherd: I cant help a man who knows it all :)
[01:46] <Mabus06> FATAL: Module 9_4.py~ not found.
[01:46] <sethk> DShepherd, actually, 686 or higher, to be more exact
[01:46] <GorillaFromBeyon> trying that now
[01:46] <lightbright> bimberi:  hello my dear friend :)
[01:46] <DShepherd> lightbright: that's why you are helping me
[01:46] <CArenas2> can someone help me with linux-image upgrade problem using apt-get?
[01:46] <lightbright> DShepherd: yes out of mercy and pity :)
[01:46] <sethk> Mabus06, that's odd.  Something is odd with your install
[01:46] <bimberi> lightbright: hi there, well how are you? :)
[01:47] <DShepherd> lightbright: :D
[01:47] <DShepherd> :-D
[01:47] <lightbright> DShepherd: but I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> one thing though, during the installation it didnt ask me for the root password
[01:47] <lightbright> bimberi:  im terrific :)
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> why is that ? is there a default one ?
[01:47] <Mabus06> !rootsudo
[01:47] <ubotu> well, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:47] <B_166-ER-X> how can i know the model of a soundcard on ubuntu ?
[01:47] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: no, it's disabled, see the link ^^^^^
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> going there
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> thanks
[01:47] <lightbright> B_166-ER-X: open your system unit
[01:48] <Mabus06> bimberi, well... not DISabled
[01:48] <DShepherd> how can I find out what processor I have.. I know is AMD. i think it is k7
[01:48] <HansZwolle> cat /proc/cpu
[01:48] <HansZwolle> or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:48] <nickrud> DShepherd, try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:48] <B_166-ER-X> lightbright ??
[01:48] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok sorry i should have checked before
[01:48] <Zedugh> DSheperd, what OS are you running on rite now?
[01:48] <DShepherd> now.. windows. but I am ubunut minded..
[01:48] <bimberi> Mabus06: root is there, you just can't log into it -> disabled no?
[01:48] <DShepherd> ubuntu*
[01:48] <lightbright> Mabus06: all padentics
[01:48] <lightbright> DShepherd: open your system unit :)
[01:49] <Mabus06> bimberi, yes you can
[01:49] <Mabus06> lightbright, all padentics?
[01:49] <lightbright> B_166-ER-X: open your system unit and look at the side of it and it will have brand name etc
[01:49] <admrl> can anyone help me with the ubuntu plf repositorys..?
[01:49] <navarone> mabus> try  "sudo modprobe emuk10k1"  and see what errors
[01:49] <lightbright> Mabus06:  yes indeed for bimberi is correct :)
[01:49] <bimberi> Mabus06: alright, you can sudo into a root login shell - pedantics indeed :)
[01:49] <lightbright> Mabus06: root is indeed "disabled" :)
[01:49] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok im installing xubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <lightbright> bimberi:  indeed :)
[01:50] <Mabus06> lightbright, I'm telling you, it's not disabled. I have a root password.
[01:50] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[01:50] <lightbright> Mabus06: I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)
[01:50] <bimberi> Mabus06: disabled initially then (sheesh!)
[01:50] <Mabus06> lightbright... maybe if you're doing the windows-style basic ubuntu installation
[01:50] <Zedugh> DShepherd, try Start->Accessories->SystemTools->SystemInfo (something like that) or Start->ControlPanel->System
[01:50] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok it's installed (xubuntu-desktop)
[01:50] <lightbright> Mabus06: Truth is never dependent upon the consensus of opinion :)
[01:51] <HansZwolle> Windows-key + Break (pause) :P
[01:51] <Mabus06> lightbright, under expert install it isn't disabled
[01:51] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: wow! do you have the ubuntu archive server on your LAN? :)
[01:52] <lightbright> Mabus06: As I said, I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)  you have 2 choices in life, always be "right" or be happy :)
[01:52] <akonkwa> Mabus06: you talking about the root account that's installed when doing the expert install?
[01:52] <Livore> hi
[01:52] <felipe> Hello, does anyone here uses FreeNX or No MachineNX?
[01:52] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi: no i am connected to the internet
[01:52] <Mabus06> akonkwa, yes
[01:52] <Livore> there is a deb of kernel 2.6.14?
[01:53] <akonkwa> Mabus06 : I had a problem with that, and I couldn't use sudo
[01:53] <GorillaFromBeyon> terrific ubuntu found my wireless card and asked me for my access point ssid and encryption and it actually worked and it's the first time ever on that pc with that card (with any other linux distro)
[01:53] <akonkwa> Mabus06: it's such a drag
[01:53] <Mabus06> akonkwa, I can still use sudo on my other accounts
[01:53] <lightbright> Mabus06: you can add add rw init=/bin/bash to the end of kernel to boot with root!  yet thats now what bimberi  and I were saying!  we used the word 'disable' as its a word used to describe the situation
[01:53] <Mabus06> akonkwa, make sure you edited the visudo thing
[01:53] <lightbright> Mabus06: dont confuse yourself :)
[01:54] <Mabus06> well regardless, anyone can help getting my audio card working? :D
[01:54] <Livore> I need to use a conexant access runner ADSL modem
[01:54] <akonkwa> Mabus06: Yeah , i didn't really know what I was doing, so someone in this chan had to walk mu through it, now i got rid of my root account
[01:54] <Livore> but it is supported in kernel 2.6.14
[01:54] <lightbright> Mabus06:  we know you can boot your system up to a passwordless root shell.  Yet the word "disabled" to describe that Ubuntu doesnt automatically have root by defaul, imho is accurate as bimberi described it :)
[01:54] <B_166-ER-X> is there a good bit torrent client NOT in java ? -or slowing my pc by 60%-
[01:55] <janopotter>  irc.cl
[01:55] <sethk> Mabus06, do you still have access to the ubuntu install that works with this sound hardware?
[01:55] <sethk> Mabus06, I'm thinking you could compare the kernel config and loaded modules
[01:55] <lightbright> Mabus06: well you know it all, you shouldnt need help with the sound card ;)
[01:55] <Livore> can someone help me?
[01:55] <lightbright> Mabus06:  only jk :)
[01:55] <lightbright> :)
[01:55] <sethk> BRB, have to run a quick errand
[01:55] <wickedpuppy> B_166-ER-X, agree with ya there .... azureus kick-ass but it eats up my sys resoruces
[01:55] <sethmahoney> Anyone in here by chance know of any good sites on programming in Python for X?
[01:55] <fletch33> i really need to find what my username amd password are for my freenx server because my client keeps asking for it. i dont understand where to get this info. please help
[01:56] <Mabus06> Well I don't think surviving through an expert install without my brain exploding constitutes knowing everything.
[01:56] <B_166-ER-X> i have Tornado... but it SO slows my pc..
[01:56] <AMDXP> yeah azureus does
[01:56] <d03boy> is there a command to see what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[01:56] <lightbright> Mabus06:  heeh ;)
[01:56] <lightbright> Mabus06:  im sure there is a simple explantion fgor your sound card
[01:56] <BadMackTuck> azureus is a beast on every os, but it does a good job
[01:57] <BadMackTuck> BYE
[01:57] <navarone> mabus> I did modprobe on myself and no output or errors...dunno if that is correct or not...lol
[01:57] <Mabus06> lightbright, fantastic.. if only someone could give it to me...
[01:57] <B_166-ER-X> is there...some other choices then Tornado or azureus ?
[01:57] <nickrud> d03boy, lsb_release -a
[01:57] <lightbright> Mabus06: yeah and I wish someone would give me the answer to Quantum Mechanics too :)
[01:57] <d03boy> hoary 5.04... am I up to date? :P
[01:57] <Zedugh> d03boy, in a term, type 'cat /etc/lsb-release'
[01:57] <Mabus06> lightbright, easy.... a, b, d, a, c, b, a, d
[01:57] <d03boy> or is breezy new?
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> d03boy, no .. there is a newer version
[01:58] <lightbright> Mabus06: and why perpetual motion is valid
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> yup ... breezy is 5.10
[01:58] <nickrud> d03boy, you could be, on hoary :)
[01:58] <lightbright> Mabus06: the day you can explain perpetual motion to me, is the day I will invest 48 hours into finding a solution for you :)
[01:58] <d03boy> does that mean I should update my sources.list or what?
[01:58] <fletch33> ok i am going to end my life because of freenx :). it is not free it iwll cost you your sanity
[01:59] <akonkwa> Could anyone help to install Limewire? I'm supposed to be able to add extra repositories so that I can install the JRE , but I don't know how to do this
[01:59] <nickrud> d03boy, you might want to, if you need newer software.
[01:59] <fletch33> akonkwa, use automatix
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> d03boy, you wish to update to latest version ?
[01:59] <nickrud> !tell d03boy about breezy
[01:59] <lightbright> akonkwa: im installing Limewire as we speak
[01:59] <fletch33> akonkwa, makes it easy
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, do not recommend automatix pls
[01:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[01:59] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, ok but why
[01:59] <d03boy> wickedpuppy, I'm not sure. Is it like Debian where the latest is unstable?
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> its been known to install things without knowing anything
[02:00] <Red-Sox> is there a Nintendo 64 emulator?
[02:00] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, k sorry
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> d03boy, debian unstable is stable ... LOL
[02:00] <lightbright> akonkwa: 1st step: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, one guy used automatix and got 300 mb of software ... lol
[02:00] <kevogod_> It's hard to play Nintendo 64 ROMs without a controller.
[02:00] <d03boy> wickedpuppy, that doesnt make a lot of sense, but OK! :D
[02:00] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, gotcha
[02:00] <akonkwa> lightbright: Ok I'll do that
[02:00] <CArenas2> i cannot upgrade linux-image package
[02:00] <nickrud> wickedpuppy, that is so true: 3 years, no reinstall with unstable, and a couple with ubuntu
[02:01] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, could u possibly helpme with my freenx
[02:01] <lightbright> akonkwa: im installing Limewire as we speak!  want to follow my steps with me?
[02:01] <akonkwa> lightbright: done
[02:01] <dlfg> in a gnome session using gnome terminal wheres the SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK get parsed from .. i don't see them in .bashrc .bashprofile or /etc/profile ?
[02:01] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, i am going nutz
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, never experienced with it before :P sorry
[02:01] <lightbright> akonkwa: done?  wow how fast is your connection :P  im still downloading Java on my modem :P
[02:01] <CArenas2> i get a dpkg error re pre/post-removal scripts not running ("Permission denied")
[02:02] <Mabus06> lightbright, should I reinstall ubuntu maybe? my home directory is it's own partition anyway
[02:02] <lightbright> CArenas2: use sudo?
[02:02] <CArenas2> can someone PLEASE point me in the right direction
[02:02] <akonkwa> lightbright: it's an average connection, i use cable
[02:02] <Red-Sox> is there a window manager that looks like os x?
[02:02] <CArenas2> lightbrigt: yes using sudo
[02:02] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, no prob. well i have a desktop that i just keep running to constantly download and upload stuff and play movies to my tv from but i need to be able to control it from my laptop what do you recommend
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, ssh ...
[02:02] <lightbright> Mabus06: I think many prefer to have /home on sepeare partition!  Yet I have mine on same because its easy when I use rsync to make a mirror backup unto my hdb
[02:02] <CArenas2> lightbright: i have posted output (http://channels.debian.net/paste/1164)
[02:02] <akonkwa> lightbright: oops, when I look closely , I see this No candidate version found for j2re1.4
[02:02] <Ron_o> CArenas2: possibly try running as root: sudo -s  ???
[02:03] <Ron_o> that worked for me setting up my printer.
[02:03] <lightbright> akonkwa: ok Java is done!  now download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it
[02:03] <Ron_o> sudo didn't cut it for some reason.
[02:03] <fletch33> wickedpuppy,  is that like remote desktop from windiws because that is what i used before i switched over and i really need that control back
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> CArenas2, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:03] <akonkwa> lightbright: oops, when I look closely , I see this No candidate version found for j2re1.4
[02:03] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico! Can anyone tell me how to overhaul my eth0 interface?
[02:03] <LoneWolf071> how do i specify what services i want to boot up with my computer, in BASH?
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, ssh would be something like secure telnet ... command line .. you know commands right ? great
[02:03] <lightbright> CArenas2: sorry I cant load any webpages atm cause im downloading using modem something
[02:04] <akonkwa> lightbright: maybe that's why it went so fast
[02:04] <Ron_o> LoneWolf071: administration > services.
[02:04] <lightbright> CArenas2:  can you ask someone else, hoefully someone who knows more than me :)
[02:04] <fletch33> wickedpuppy,  no but i get your point thanks
[02:04] <LoneWolf071> Ron_o, In bash
[02:04] <lightbright> akonkwa: ok well use the command I am usin
[02:04] <Ron_o> oh, I can't help there. :)
[02:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: Zedugh I have an AMD Athlon XP 2000+
[02:04] <lightbright> akonkwa: 1st step: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[02:04] <LoneWolf071> lgc, welcome to ubuntu... what do you want to do with your etrh0?
[02:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: Zedugh sudo aptitude install linux-k7?
[02:05] <CArenas2> lightbright: thx, will do  :-)
[02:05] <lightbright> DShepherd: im not qualified to answer that sorry
[02:05] <CArenas2> wickedpuppy: same result
[02:05] <lightbright> CArenas2: all the best :)
[02:05] <akonkwa> lightbright: It says ".... Initializing package states... Done
[02:05] <akonkwa> No candidate version found for j2re1.4
[02:05] <akonkwa> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:05] <akonkwa> many packages here
[02:05] <lightbright> akonkwa: is that installing ok?
[02:05] <nickrud> DShepherd, you want the K7 for AMD, yes
[02:05] <CArenas2> first line of output = dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[02:05] <lgc> LoneWolf071, I can't get anything through it, though the "local network" light from the modem is on
[02:06] <DShepherd> lightbright: Zedugh <offtopic>Aida32 on windows is a nice program for getting system info</offtopic>
[02:06] <lightbright> akonkwa:  so it installed ok?
[02:06] <DShepherd> nickrud: thanks
[02:06] <GorillaFromBeyon> i feel stupid, i can't get to install x11 through aptitude with the console (server installation)
[02:06] <bimberi> akonkwa: ensure multiverse repositories are enabled
[02:06] <DShepherd> nickrud: are there any obvious improvements?
[02:06] <lightbright> DShepherd: ok thanks
[02:07] <GorillaFromBeyon> it tells me "no packages are scheduled to be installed, remove or upgraded" after I chose the install option for the x11 package
[02:07] <nickrud> CArenas2, I'd start by looking at the files related to linux-image in /var/lib/dpkg
[02:07] <akonkwa> bimberi : How do I do that?
[02:07] <lightbright> GorillaFromBeyon: dont feel stupid, we all learn and that doesnt mean we are all stupid
[02:07] <Mabus06> !paste
[02:07] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:07] <DShepherd> nickrud: and if I install with it will I need to reinstall build-essentials? wil some programs break?
[02:07] <LoneWolf071> Ron_o, also, the service menu in GNOME doesn't have nessus on it, how do i add that?
[02:07] <dlfg> LoneWolf071: update-rc.d
[02:07] <DShepherd> lightbright: no problem
[02:07] <nickrud> DShepherd, I've been told it is awe inspiring, and it's pedestrian :)
[02:07] <lightbright> akonkwa: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:07] <Phoul> Where in ubuntu is htdocs located for apache?
[02:08] <nickrud> DShepherd, no, everything else is just fine; the new kernel slides in under everything else seamlessly
[02:08] <Mabus06> This is my aplay -l returns output (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4959) can anyone spot any problems? that's the device I want to use but it won't play
[02:08] <bimberi> akonkwa: ok, another approach.  Applications -> Add Applications -> Internet -> More Programs... -> Java Web Start 1.4
[02:08] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok thanks
[02:08] <mulder> is there a gui nat tool for ubuntu?
[02:08] <mulder> or qos
[02:08] <nickrud> DShepherd, except, you'd need different restricted-modules, and if you compiled a winmodem, you'll need to redo that.
[02:09] <DShepherd> nickrud: yup... I know that....:( *remembers to 2 months ago
[02:09] <lightbright> bimberi:  is that way the same as doing: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 ?
[02:09] <GorillaFromBeyon> it tells me "no packages are scheduled to be installed, remove or upgraded" after I chose the install option for the x11 package
[02:09] <lightbright> bimberi:  or is your way easier and better?
[02:09] <GorillaFromBeyon> how do i "schedule" them to be installed
[02:09] <GorillaFromBeyon> so that when i press "g" it actually installs them ?
[02:09] <Ron_o> lonewolff: I can't help you much on that. Did you try to download BUM?
[02:10] <bimberi> lightbright: yes, and will enable repositories if required
[02:10] <Ron_o> sudo apt-get bum
[02:10] <Ron_o> bum: boot up manager.
[02:10] <lightbright> bimberi:  ah I should have done it that way then!  im using sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 atm and its 70% done.  shall I let it finish or stop and do it your way you think?
[02:11] <bimberi> lightbright: leave it, the results should be identical :)
[02:11] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok doing it
[02:11] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok great!  because on my modem its taken ages to get to 70% :P
[02:11] <lgc> Can anyone help me with my eth0 link?
[02:12] <ioboss> hi.. i have a ati videoboard... i have installed driver from website.. but i see file rm not well
[02:12] <Mabus06> lightbright, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4959
[02:12] <Mabus06> see anything wrong with that?
[02:12] <GorillaFromBeyon> i thought "g" was the option to install them (AND select them) while if i get it right now, i should have used "+" to select them
[02:12] <Zedugh> lgc, what's wrong with your eth0 link?
[02:12] <ioboss> the stream don't go fast..
[02:12] <navarone> Mabus> my output list device 0 to 3
[02:13] <akonkwa> bimberi: Ok, I have java ... what is the next step?
[02:13] <pepsi1> i would like to find some more bitmapped monospace fonts
[02:13] <pepsi1> how can i go about doing that?
[02:13] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[02:13] <funkyHat> anyone else having trouble with the breezy repos?
[02:13] <lgc> Zedugh, I can't get it working (I'm on eth1 now, but it has the bad habit of going down in a while
[02:13] <foxgamer> Hi all. Every now and then, when I reboot my computer, I get a kernel compile error (fresh install three days ago). Is this something serious does anyone know?
[02:13] <Livore> is there a deb for kernel 2.6.14?
[02:13] <RedRose> is there anyway, client side, to enable color on SSH?
[02:14] <lightbright> DShepherd: Sorry, I'm not qualified to answer that
[02:14] <mulder> Livore, in unstable possibly.
[02:14] <RedRose> lgc:Eth0 help, right?
[02:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[02:14] <bur[n] er> RedRose: ls --color
[02:14] <tuxedo_kamen> i am not sure if anyone can help me, but... I need to create a script file, which performs a certain set of terminal operations, how can I create one?
[02:14] <lightbright> funkyHat: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:15] <RedRose> is there a way to specify it by default?
[02:15] <lightbright> funkyHat: use those repos
[02:15] <lgc> RedRose, right
[02:15] <RedRose> look in the tabs for my chat invite
[02:15] <CArenas2> nickrud: no such images for new linux-image package
[02:15] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: create a script
[02:15] <foxgamer> Also, does anyone know of a program that can check the integrity of the hard drive?
[02:15] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: which package are you installing?
[02:15] <bur[n] er> RedRose: alias ls='ls --color'
[02:15] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, I don't know how... I want to create something like the *.bat files for windows...
[02:15] <funkyHat> lightbright, it's all good now
[02:15] <bur[n] er> foxgamer: e2fsk ??
[02:15] <funkyHat> lightbright, just had an odd error with the keys
[02:16] <bur[n] er> foxgamer: otherwise I use "Bart's stuff test" on a windows PE cd ;)
[02:16] <TokenBad> friend installed ubuntu but he has an ati card...and says the video flickers
[02:16] <folki> hi all...can anybody help me...i need some good and especially qiuck images viewer...
[02:16] <TokenBad> is there a way to fix it?
[02:16] <foxgamer> Ah yes! I remember that. Thanks bur[n] er
[02:16] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, im istalling x11 right now
[02:16] <folki> quick*
[02:16] <bur[n] er> folki: gqview
[02:16] <lightbright> funkyHat:  awesome :)
[02:16] <navarone> folki> try gthumb
[02:16] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: k :)
[02:16] <GorillaFromBeyon> and upgrading all the rest
[02:16] <RedRose> bur[n] er:It gives me an error ... how do i make it accept input?
[02:16] <bur[n] er> gqview is faster than gthumb
[02:16] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: ok open a blank text file
[02:16] <tuxedo_kamen> just did
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> I write the commands in there
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> and then what?
[02:17] <Steil> tuxedo_kamen: You want to open a text editor then toss  #!/bin/bash at the top, all your commands after, then chmod +x <filename>
[02:17] <folki> do u know irfanview under Windows? I would somethink similar if it is possible
[02:17] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: you got a clean empty text file open ready to write text?
[02:17] <nickrud> CArenas2, you mean, no post or pre install files under info? (I'm kinda in the dark here: I've been in this dir for broken packages in unstable, but I'm not real knowledgable)
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> yep, I do
[02:17] <Zedugh> foxgamer, do you mean the integrity of a filesystem, or the reliability of the disk hardware? for i/o errors: 'man badblocks'
[02:17] <horacio> gusl
[02:17] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  relax, 1 step at a time, fair? :)
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:17] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  ok :) now the first line should be:  #!/bin/sh
[02:18] <foxgamer> Zedugh, I don't know exactly where the problem lies, but with bur[n] er's suggestion and yours, I may be able to find out.
[02:18] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:18] <folki> thnaks
[02:18] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: under that you can write for example: aptitude update  and on next line aptitude upgrade
[02:18] <folki> thanks*
[02:18] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  etc etc
[02:18] <TokenBad> anyone know about how to fix flicker with ati video cards?
[02:18] <PinTo> n e 1 know where i can repositorys from
[02:18] <RedRose> lgc:go you see the private chat tab?
[02:18] <CArenas2> nickrud: correct - no pre or post install files for package
[02:18] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  tell me when you done all that and I will tell you the next step needed, ok?
[02:18] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, you mean, my comands?
[02:19] <lgc> RedRose I am there a while ago.
[02:19] <RedRose> bur[n] er:it's ls -G not ls --color
[02:19] <nickrud> CArenas2, then, what about permission's on the dir?
[02:19] <PinTo> sethk i only 3 repositories
[02:19] <PinTo> still cant find what i need
[02:19] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  Under the first line:  #!/bin/sh   you can write your commands you want!  for me, I have sudo aptitude update
[02:19] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  yes your commands
[02:19] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  tell me when you done all that and I will tell you the next step needed
[02:21] <sethk> PinTo, did you add the others?
[02:21] <sethk> PinTo, you won't see additional stuff without adding
[02:21] <CArenas2> nickrud: of /var/lib/dpkg? 0755
[02:21] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, I just did
[02:22] <akonkwa> ubotu: when I run "runLime" , i only see the terminal appear for a second, and then it dissapears
[02:22] <ubotu> akonkwa: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:22] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright , what next?
[02:22] <mulder> anyone know why my ntfs partition is mounted rw, but is still only read only? i'm using a factory install of breezy
[02:22] <CArenas2> nickrud: but apt-get has worked fine all along until these packages
[02:22] <nickrud> CArenas2, then, we're rapidly approaching the limits of my knowledge; does any other package have this problem
[02:22] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: save it
[02:22] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  name it something easy to remember, no extension
[02:23] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: save it in your /home/user folder
[02:23] <CArenas2> nickrud: yes, 3 -- linux-image, linux-restricted-modules-common, language-selector
[02:23] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:23] <tuxedo_kamen> what next?
[02:23] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: open Terminal
[02:23] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  and Terminal should open in /home/user
[02:24] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:24] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: type ls -lh to make sure its there
[02:24] <PinTo> sethk yeah i added security update .and source update
[02:24] <akonkwa> I am desperatlet trying to install java
[02:24] <akonkwa> can anyone help me?
[02:24] <Livore> mulder: debian unstable?
[02:24] <sethk> PinTo, but you said you have 3, and I told you that you need seven
[02:25] <PinTo> breezy
[02:25] <sethk> akonkwa, are you talking about java in the web browser, or standalone java?
[02:25] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  do you see the file?
[02:25] <PinTo> yeah i dont have the other 4
[02:25] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats it called?
[02:25] <tuxedo_kamen> wait, I take some time as I am working remotely, by using ssh! >_<
[02:25] <lightbright> akonkwa: I told you to do as I am doing
[02:25] <psusi> when I select the libpt-plugin packages to be upgraded in synaptic, it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop... why on earth would it want to remove ubuntu-desktop ot upgrade the libpt packages?
[02:25] <PinTo> where abouts can i get them sethk?
[02:25] <mulder> Livore, yeah
[02:25] <nickrud> CArenas2, do you have breezy-backports enabled?
[02:26] <PinTo> i have no internet connection so i'll have to rip them to CD
[02:26] <lightbright> akonkwa: maybe try to remove and reinstall?
[02:26] <CArenas2> nickrud: no
[02:26] <akonkwa> lightbright: could you repeat the steps?
[02:26] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: use Terminal
[02:26] <nickrud> heh, a last stab, a bad package :)
[02:26] <akonkwa> sthk: stand alone java
[02:26] <kwtm2> Hi!  How do use sudo I redirect std output to a file accessible only to root?  Eg: if I say "sudo ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results", it fails because I, a non-root user, don't have permission to write the output of "sudo ls /etc/*" to the file /etc/ls_results; what I want is to execute the command "ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results" as the superuser (root).
[02:26] <sethk> PinTo, then, as an alternative you can download the .deb file for ncurses and install it with dpkg
[02:26] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, I can't, I haven't got ubuntu in this computer ! >_>
[02:27] <PinTo> i installed ncurses but i need libncureses.devl
[02:27] <lightbright> akonkwa: try sudo apt-get --purge remove j2re1.4
[02:27] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: What???
[02:27] <PinTo> make xconfig just doesnt want to work
[02:27] <psusi> kwtm2, try enclosing the entire ls xx > foo command in single quotes
[02:27] <nelkael81> you nnow an italian server for ubuntu ???
[02:27] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  come back message me when you are on Ubuntu next time then :P lol
[02:27] <nickrud> kwtm2, I've seen someone using sudo ls  ... | sudo tee, or something like that for echoing to a file
[02:27] <akonkwa> lightbright: ok, done that. what should I do next?
[02:27] <PinTo> when i try make menuconfig i need libncurses.devl
[02:27] <lightbright> akonkwa: try sudo apt-get --purge remove j2re1.4  and then reinstall, worth a try?
[02:28] <akonkwa> lightbright: ok, done that. what should I do next?
[02:28] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, ok, next time I'll try being at home! :P
[02:28] <lightbright> akonkwa: type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:28] <PinTo> i suppose i can use either 1
[02:28] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  great :)
[02:28] <kwtm2> psusi: Enclosing the command doesn't work, because the computer complains that there is no such command as "ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results".
[02:28] <lightbright> akonkwa: whats it say now?
[02:28] <kwtm2> nickrud: Hmm, that idea seems promising.  I'll look into that.
[02:28] <lightbright> akonkwa: did you try bimberi's way?
[02:29] <nickrud>  echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules kwtm2 here's an example
[02:29] <akonkwa> lightbright: it says:ackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:29] <akonkwa> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:29] <akonkwa> is only available from another source
[02:29] <akonkwa> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> akonkwa, pls don't paste here ..
[02:29] <Mabus06> can anyone help me with getting my sound card to work please????
[02:29] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: all you then needed to do was to change it to "x" execute and ru  it by ./filename
[02:29] <PinTo> alz i need do is build a kernel
[02:29] <akonkwa> wickedpuppy: sorry
[02:30] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  easy :)  same as bat file
[02:30] <crimsun> mirrormax.net does not host ubp any longer
[02:30] <lightbright> akonkwa: use these repos from here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:30] <lightbright> akonkwa:  then update
[02:30] <Graider> Whomever's in charge of what's included in a default Ubuntu install, add xfe (file manager), it makes things a lot less scary for the Windows convert!
[02:31] <lightbright> Mabus06:  use your onboard one :)
[02:31] <kwtm2> nickrud:  I'll first try "sudo ls /etc/* | sudo cat >/etc/ls_results" ...
[02:31] <akonkwa> lightbright: even if I have hoary?
[02:31] <lightbright> Mabus06:  did you change your dip switches on the card?
[02:31] <Mabus06> lightbright, but my sound is being super crappy when playing Doom3... I figure if I have my sound card do it it would be better
[02:31] <Mabus06> lightbright, dip switches?
[02:31] <lightbright> akonkwa: what?  you said you using breezy
[02:31] <akonkwa> lightbrihgt: never saisd that
[02:31] <lightbright> Mabus06: so all this effort for quake? :P
[02:31] <akonkwa> lightbright: I'm using hoary
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> Graider, mail to the mailing list or go to #ubuntu-devel
[02:32] <nickrud> kwtm2, you can't pipe to sudo, I tried that one myself :)
[02:32] <Mabus06> Doom3, lightbright
[02:32] <lightbright> Mabus06:  Quake will sound crappy with the other card too, because of low frame rates
[02:32] <lightbright> Mabus06:  Doom sorry
[02:32] <lightbright> Mabus06: what is the name of your sound card?
[02:32] <Mabus06> how do I fix that, lightbright ?
[02:33] <Mabus06> [C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6] 
[02:33] <lightbright> Mabus06: get a new fresh fast graphics card and your sound will be smoother too
[02:33] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbrith --> bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: Permission denied <-- i get this error
[02:33] <Mabus06> lightbright, I'm using onboard video... :(
[02:33] <akonkwa> lightbright: So what should I do if I'm using Hoary?
[02:33] <lightbright> Mabus06:  and try using google and type something like "ubuntu" +CMI8738-MC6
[02:33] <lightbright> Mabus06:  disable it and install a new one!
[02:34] <lightbright> Mabus06:  onboard video cards are not good for Doom etc
[02:34] <psusi> kwtm2, this works for me: sudo bash -c  'ls > /etc/foo'
[02:34] <lightbright> Mabus06:  cheap no frills stuff
[02:34] <slide> Does anyone know how to get adobe photoshop cs2 installed with wine?
[02:34] <kwtm2> nickrud: so how does "echo blabla | sudo tee bla bla" work?
[02:34] <lightbright> akonkwa: update to breezy :)
[02:34] <Mabus06> lightbright, I already managed to bork my geforce FX 5500 trying to install it on linux. Now it wont work on windows
[02:34] <Mabus06> lightbright, but my video works just fine onboard... no lag at all except for sound in game play
[02:34] <lightbright> slide: did you check the wine website to make sure adobe photoshop cs2 works woith Wine?
[02:35] <kwtm2> psusi: hmm... good idea.  I just wish we didn't have to use bash (since that will negate any security ... might as well just log in as root to do it).  I'll go with your method, though
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, paste the script along with the permission on the pastebin
[02:35] <slide> lightbright, nop
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Mabus06, i am using the same card ... works like a charm here
[02:35] <psusi> kwtm2, how does it negate security?
[02:35] <lightbright> slide: maybe check that first
[02:35] <Mabus06> wickedpuppy, stop bragging :P
[02:35] <lightbright> wickedpuppy: maybe you can tell him your config
[02:35] <Mabus06> no no no you guys are barking down a dead path ;)
[02:35] <Mabus06> the card is finished. done.
[02:35] <Mabus06> won't even get recognised by lspci anymore
[02:36] <bimberi> akonkwa: download the j2re deb for hoary from here - http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ and install using dpkg
[02:36] <akonkwa> bimberi thankx
[02:36] <bimberi> akonkwa: np :)
[02:36] <lgc> Can anyone help me with my eth0 interface?
[02:37] <Mabus06> can anybody please help me with my audio? I don't know how to get my PCI card to work
[02:37] <bimberi> akonkwa: although you should make sure it works first :)
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> lgc, what about your eth0 ?
[02:37] <akonkwa> bimberi :)
[02:37] <Kerr> ugh.
[02:37] <tuxedo_kamen> wickedpuppy, here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4960
[02:37] <nickrud> kwtm2, I was hoping you'd let me slide :) I'm not sure, just seen it used by the guru's when they're here
[02:37] <nature22> last night somone sent me the link for the deb package of java. does anyone still have it? I need it again.
[02:37] <Mabus06> lightbright, isn't there something I have to do after plugging in the card to get it to work? nobody has really suggested I do anything, I find it suprising that nobody has given me advice on drivers to install or something after putting the card in and booting up
[02:37] <akonkwa> bimberi: do you know how I can update to breezy? and is it long and complicated?
[02:38] <Kerr> both of the breezy cd's i've tried fail to install.. debootstrap errors of some sort.. ~.~
[02:38] <lightbright> Mabus06: ubuntu should pick it up
[02:38] <pixman>  akonkwa get hold of Easy Ubuntu
[02:38] <lgc> wickedpuppy, it can't get the connection through! (I'm on eth1 now).
[02:38] <bur[n] er> !UpgradeBreezy
[02:38] <ubotu> bur[n] er: Not a clue
[02:38] <Ryan15> im new to this thing
[02:38] <bur[n] er> !BreezyUpgrade
[02:38] <pixman> Easy Ubuntu updaets your sources.list
[02:38] <ubotu> somebody said breezyupgrade was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:38] <pixman> to breezy
[02:38] <Ryan15> how do you get to other chat
[02:38] <Ryan15> chats*
[02:38] <bimberi> akonkwa: no, see that breezyupgrade link above
[02:38] <ghostpsalm> is there a terminal command to burna  folder to a cd?
[02:38] <lightbright> !ubotu tell Mabus06 about BreezyUpgrade
[02:38] <bur[n] er> Ryan15: xchat?   /join #channelname
[02:39] <ghostpsalm> !ubotu tell ghostpsalm about BreezyUpgrade
[02:39] <remyforbes777> is there a inetd file for ubuntu
[02:39] <kwtm2> psusi: Hmm... I guess I can't think of any reason why it would be worse than sudo.  Instinctively, it seems like a "but you can do anything!" command, but I guess that's what sudo is in the first place.
[02:39] <bur[n] er> ghostpsalm: /msg ubotu BreezyUpgrade   (no need to say it in the chan)
[02:40] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone help me fix it, please? :|
[02:40] <PinTo> TTFN
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> lgc, ifconfig ?
[02:40] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: fix what?
[02:40] <remyforbes777> is there an inetd file for ubuntu
[02:40] <ghostpsalm> bur[n] er: Cheers, just seeing what it does - ubotu told me /msg anyhow.
[02:40] <Ryan15> it says enter channel's number?
[02:40] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I got it. What piece of info do you want?
[02:40] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, it doesn't work, see it here please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4960
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> lgc, can paste on the pastebin ?
[02:41] <nature22> thanks
[02:42] <lgc> wickedpuppy, sorry I'm new to this. Do you want me to paste the output to where?
[02:42] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: what doesnt work?
[02:42] <tuxedo_kamen> my script, stated there!
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> lgc, pastebin ... look at tuxedo_kamen line above
[02:42] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: you need to run it on Ubuntu :P
[02:42] <sethk> kwtm2, sudo can be configured to not allow every command.  That's why it is supposedly better.  People rarely bother to configure it that way, unfortunately.
[02:42] <Mabus06> lightbright, I already have breezy... :S
[02:42] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- that's what I am doing, I am running it by connecting to my house using SSH! :D
[02:42] <remyforbes777> is there a inetd file in ubuntu?
[02:42] <Kerr> I'm getting a base system installation cd with each of the breezy cds i got via shipit. 'the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)' .. at about 33%..
[02:42] <lightbright> Mabus06: yeah sorry was meant for someone else :)
[02:42] <Kerr> any idea what is going wrong?
[02:43] <frej> hmm dapper gconf seems broken or something.
[02:43] <frej> anyone having problems with gnome/metacity/panel ?
[02:43] <crimsun> remyforbes777: /etc/inetd.conf ?
[02:43] <remyforbes777> yeah
[02:43] <prometheus> hey all. how do I search the list of files using apt-get
[02:43] <crimsun> frej: works fine here.
[02:43] <remyforbes777> is there one in ubuntu?
[02:43] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats with line 8? --------------> permissions: 744 >?
[02:43] <frej> crimsun: how recent update?
[02:43] <remyforbes777> i cant freaking find it
[02:43] <Mabus06> bur[n] er, you've helped me a few times before, any idea how to get my sound card working? I put it in the PCI slot and booted the com but it won't play sounds
[02:43] <crimsun> remyforbes777: yes, I just looked.
[02:43] <remyforbes777> well shit
[02:43] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file?
[02:43] <nickrud> prometheus, just what are you trying to find out?
[02:43] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I opened the link, but it's something about java.
[02:43] <remyforbes777> why cant i find it on my box
[02:43] <themachine> how do I chmod an entire directory?
[02:44] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, you had asked me for the permissions, I hadn't got other place to write it, obviously that line isn't in the file itself! :P and the name is teste
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> lgc, yes ... i know .. left links ... make a new post
[02:44] <crimsun> frej: hmm, about an hour ago?
[02:44] <prometheus> nickrud: rather then using aptitude. search the list of available packages to to using command line
[02:44] <frej> ie, i lost most keybindings (window management) applets defaults are broken too.
[02:44] <crimsun> frej: probably closer to 2 hours.
[02:44] <frej> -ie,
[02:44] <bur[n] er> Mabus06: lsmod |grep snd
[02:44] <remyforbes777> im trying to open port 22 for ssh
[02:45] <nickrud> prometheus, apt-cache search  might do it; you can use aptitude search also
[02:45] <frej> My mirror was last updated about ~0:45
[02:45] <Zedugh> themachine, chmod -R (recursive option)
[02:45] <Kerr> when i try to isntall breezy, debconf has dependancy problems 'depends on debconf-i18n | debconf-english; however: ... both of the packages aren't installed :-/
[02:45] <prometheus> nickrud: so apt-cache search "filename"
[02:45] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I can't find such a tab on that page
[02:45] <prometheus> or rather package name
[02:45] <nickrud> prometheus, oh, find a file in a package: dpkg -S /path/to/filename
[02:45] <nickrud> prometheus, if the package is installed
[02:46] <prometheus> nickrud: sorry typing to fast. I mean if I wanted to search for all the irb packages ->  apt-cache search irb
[02:46] <ghostpsalm> If you want to unmount a drive/device - but the terminal says it is busy, what can you do?  No progs currently using it?
[02:46] <nickrud> prometheus, yes
[02:46] <remyforbes777> any idea where inetd could be at if I cant find it in etc
[02:46] <frej> how, can i figure out if gconf doesn't register default schema values?
[02:46] <prometheus> nickrud: great! thanks
[02:46] <kwtm2> ghostpsalm: try "lsof /dev/MyDevice" to see what programs are using it
[02:47] <nickrud> prometheus, you can also aptitude search ; you can use all the nice search terms that aptitude provides
[02:47] <bimberi> remyforbes777: if you install openssh-server you don't need to open any ports
[02:47] <lgc> wickedpuppy, Do you mean "click here to make a fresh posting"?
[02:47] <remyforbes777> i installed it and I tried to connect
[02:47] <prometheus> nickrud: that isn't from the command line is it? it's the terminal GUI
[02:47] <remyforbes777> and i got connection refused, could that be a authentication issue
[02:47] <ghostpsalm> kwtm2:  lsof, lsof, bash... but bash is the only terminal - and it doesn't appear to be using it.
[02:47] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[02:47] <Kerr> is there a specific channel for help with installing breezy?
[02:48] <frej> Hmm, it's when i upgrade an package it seems. The defaults are lost. nautilus has fubared too
[02:48] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, so, can you help me, please? :|
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> lgc, yes
[02:48] !lilo:*! We're editing the kline file; some clonebots may need to be reentered. Please bear with us.
[02:48] <prometheus> nickrud: just trying to learn how to do things quick and dirty from an ssh connection when I know a package name roughly ;)
[02:48] <akonkwa> bimberi: I have download the jre file. what should I do with it?
[02:48] <nickrud> prometheus, try aptitude search ~g~sgnome
[02:48] <lgc> I'm there. Shall I post the output from ifconfig there?
[02:48] <bimberi> remyforbes777: hm, "sudo netstat -plnt" - look for port 22
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, can you run those commands one by one ? no errors ?
[02:49] <bimberi> akonkwa: open terminal, go to directory with the file, "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[02:49] <ghostpsalm> kwtm2: Now lsof outputs nothing, but Istill cannot umount the device.
[02:49] <remyforbes777> bimberi: nope no port 22
[02:49] <prometheus> nickrud: great thanks again
[02:50] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file?
[02:50] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: are you running Ubuntu now?
[02:50] <lightbright> akonkwa: install it using apt-get
[02:50] <tuxedo_kamen> no, i am working on it remotely, by connecting to my house using SSH!
[02:50] <bimberi> remyforbes777: how about "pgrep sshd" - any output?
[02:50] <lightbright> akonkwa: type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:50] <remyforbes777> bimberi: no
[02:50] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file you created?
[02:50] <akonkwa> bimberi: Ok, i have java installed (I think) What should I do next? (to install limewire)
[02:51] <tuxedo_kamen> teste
[02:51] <frej> So, how does debian packages register gconf schema files?
[02:51] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: ok type chmod 777 teste
[02:51] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: did you type that yet?
[02:51] <frej> kinda newish to debs ;)
[02:51] <bimberi> remyforbes777: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start"
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> frej, what about rpm ?
[02:51] <lightbright> frej:  :)
[02:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[02:51] <tuxedo_kamen> now I get this error: " bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:51] <tuxedo_kamen> "
[02:51] <lgc> wickedpuppy, What do I do next?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> lgc, paste the url here ? so i can see your ifconfig output
[02:52] <Kerr> ugh
[02:52] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: what directory are you in NOW? :P hehe
[02:52] <Kerr> wtf is up with the install cd :-/
[02:52] <tuxedo_kamen> same on
[02:52] <lightbright> Kerr: nothing works great
[02:52] <tuxedo_kamen> and if I type "ls", I don't get any errors
[02:52] <bimberi> Kerr: error message?
[02:52] <remyforbes777> bimberi: unknown initscript, etc/init.d/ssh not found
[02:52] <Kerr> base-config depends on console data but it's not going to be installed.
[02:52] <tuxedo_kamen> and I see my file in there...
[02:52] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: type lh -lh and tell me the output
[02:52] <Sgeper> Why isn't there a package for kernel sources of 2.6.12?
[02:52] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: type ls -lh and tell me the output
[02:53] <Octane> i think i have some errors on my /root and /home partitions... what's the best way to fsck fix them?
[02:53] <nickrud> frej, it's done in the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[02:53] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: ok type "sudo chmod 777 teste"
[02:53] <Kerr> lastlog my nick, i've had quite a few errors..
[02:53] <tuxedo_kamen> -rwxrwxrwx    1 miguel.a 1000           76 Nov 24 01:32 teste
[02:53] <tritium> Sgeper, there is...linux-source-2.6.12
[02:53] <lgc> wickedpuppy, you got it. But I booted with eth1 this time over.
[02:53] <Kerr> i'm in the installers openssh, using my home pc's irssi.
[02:53] <bimberi> remyforbes777: "dpkg -l openssh-server | grep ii" - any output?
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> lgc, ? eh where is the url ?
[02:53] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: now type "./teste"
[02:53] <kwtm2> ghostpsalm: Not sure what to do next ...
[02:54] <Octane> anyone have an answer to my super duper simple question
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> doesn't work, he says that the file isn't found! >_<
[02:54] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats it say now?
[02:54] <akonkwa> bimberi: limewire is running!!!! thanx for all the help
[02:54] <lgc> wickedpuppy, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4962, I think.
[02:54] <akonkwa> lightbright: thanx for helpming me
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> " bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> "
[02:54] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: try it when you get home :)  have a good day
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:54] <themachine> chmod keeps telling me that it is a read-only file system. I used the command:        sudo chmod 755 -R /media/"0 GB Disk (hda1)"/Windows
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> brb
[02:54] <bimberi> akonkwa: great! np :)
[02:55] <lightbright> akonkwa: dont thank me, thank the Person who worketh through me :)
[02:55] <Kerr> bimberi: i've never seen a base install with unmet dependancies before, what is going on :-/
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> lgc, the first one is eth0 i assume ?
[02:55] <akonkwa> lightbright:???
[02:55] <lgc> wickedpuppy, right.
[02:55] <lightbright> akonkwa:  and it was bimberi who helped the most
[02:55] <bimberi> Kerr: i don't know sorry, not encountered it myself :/
[02:55] <Zedugh> remyforbes777, dpkg -S inetd.conf says its not found, but I have package netbase installed, which includes a program update-inetd. man update-inetd says it creates, modifies the inetd.conf file. check if you have netbase installed.
[02:55] <lightbright> akonkwa: where did you download Limewire from anyway>? just curious
[02:56] <blanky> hey guys, how can I make use of samba
[02:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[02:56] <blanky> I installed it, now how do i...use it
[02:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell blanky about samba
[02:56] <lightbright> bimberi:  heeh ;)
[02:56] <bimberi> lightbright: :)
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> lgc, try ifup eth0
[02:56] <holycow> hey all
[02:56] <lightbright> ubotu tell lightbright about limewire
[02:57] <GorillaFromBeyon> finally, the whole x11 branch of packages is installed
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> blanky, google it or go to #samba
[02:57] <bimberi> hi holycow!
[02:57] <holycow> :)
[02:57] <lgc> wickedpuppy, "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"
[02:57] <holycow> i think ubuntu has done a lot for linux beyond the pure debian/technology end of things
[02:57] <akonkwa> lightbright:http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[02:58] <holycow> its definately freshened up the culture as well
[02:58] <SoulPropagation> what's the package name for Motif
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> lgc, is eth0 connected using dhcp ?
[02:58] <holycow> its nice to see friendly linux folks around :)
[02:58] <lgc> wickedpuppy, yes.
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> lgc, i am curious ... you got two ethernet connections ?
[02:58] <lightbright> akonkwa: I cant downbload from there :(  keeps stopping
[02:59] <lightbright> akonkwa: do you have a server you can let me download Limewire from please?
[02:59] <remyforbes777> bimberi : no packages matching openssh-server installed
[02:59] <kwtm2> ubotu tell me about limewire
[02:59] <Zedugh> remyforbes777, do you have package netbase installed?
[02:59] <bimberi> remyforbes777: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[03:00] <chengzenian> how to install 5.10
[03:00] <lightbright> bimberi:  is there something similar to Limewire that is better?
[03:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell chengzenian about install
[03:00] <remyforbes777> zedugh:yeah
[03:00] <kwtm2> ubotu help
[03:00] <chengzenian> i have not cdrom
[03:00] <bimberi> lightbright: i use gtk-gnutella, better? matter of opinion
[03:00] <remyforbes777> bimberi:ok but i thought i did that
[03:01] <yikes> has anyone successfully used alsa in xmame or kxmame?
[03:01] <lgc> wickedpuppy, sometimes I boot wireless. Sometimes I don't. I usually don't have any trouble with eth0, but lately a message  "ipw2200 fatal error", or something like that pops.
[03:01] <remyforbes777> bimberi: crap that was on my debian box
[03:01] <lightbright> bimberi:  how can I install gtk-gnutella on breezy pls?
[03:01] <bimberi> remyforbes777: i know but it seems that somehow it's no there
[03:01] <nickrud> bimberi, it's smaller footprint is definitely not a matter of opinion :)
[03:01] <remyforbes777> bimberi: im freaking retarded
[03:01] <bimberi> nickrud: :)
[03:01] <mcadory> remyforbes777: sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:01] <lightbright> remyforbes777: you are what you "think" you are
[03:01] <bimberi> remyforbes777: let (s)he who hath never made a mistake cast the first stone :)
[03:02] <lightbright> bimberi:  do I type: sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella ?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> lgc, googling that term would have saved you hours of asking time here
[03:02] <bimberi> lightbright: yep :)
[03:02] <blanky> hey guys, can someone please help me on this, I was reading this page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba , and under 'Time to fill in your settings:
[03:02] <zovirl> I'm having problems copying files from a DVD-R to my harddrive.  The copy process keeps hanging.  The HD light comes on solid and I can't even kill -9 the cp process. Is that normal?  Is it a bug or is my HD failing?
[03:02] <bimberi> lightbright: will appear under Apps -> Internet
[03:02] <lightbright> bimberi:  cool :)
[03:02] <remyforbes777> bimberi: installing ssh now
[03:02] <blanky> at the bottom it says 'Q: I dont have windows networking section', i dont either, but it doesnt seem to tell what to do
[03:02] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I don't get it.
[03:02] <blanky> can someone please talk to me in private
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> lgc, pls do me a favour and google it pls ... someone on debian mailing list already found that problem
[03:03] <SoulPropagation> blanky: you need to set up networking on your windows box
[03:03] <lightbright> bimberi:  thanks :)
[03:03] <bimberi> lightbright: np :)
[03:03] <blanky> SoulPropagation, er, what?
[03:03] <lgc> wickedpuppy, you mean the ipw2200 issue?
[03:03] <GorillaFromBeyon> now that i have installed x11 what should i do to run xubuntu ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> lgc, google for ipw2200 fatal error
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> yes
[03:03] <GorillaFromBeyon> like dunno, xdm, gdm ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> lgc, google for "ipw2200 fatal error" <---
[03:03] <SoulPropagation> blanky: how good are you with windows? i.e. should i give you detailed instructions or just "go here, click this, etc"
[03:04] <themachine> chmod keeps telling me read-only file system. Any idea why?
[03:04] <blanky> you know what I'm talking about right? in https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba under time to fill in your settings, at the bottom is says 'waht if I dont have windows networking section, only hostname and domain name, what do I do now?! but it never answers it
[03:04] <SoulPropagation> themachine: are you trying to chmod a CD?
[03:04] <themachine> no a hardrive
[03:04] <themachine> my hda1 mount
[03:04] <blanky> can I talk in private to someone
[03:04] <blanky> please
[03:05] <SoulPropagation> themachine: mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,rw /
[03:05] <Ophiocus> is it ntfs ?
[03:05] <StarKruzr> anyone here understand inetd?  I'm trying to make talkd work, which says it needs to be run from inetd.  when I installed talkd, it put an entry for itself in inetd.conf, so it looks like it's correct, but when I run ytalk on my machine and try to ytalk with a local user, ytalk just tells me there is no talkd server running.  anyone know what's going on there?
[03:05] <lgc> wickedpuppy, thanks. By the way, do you know if there's a nicer GUI app for configuring network interfaces? It seems that the one included with the distro is quite featureless. I think Windows (yuck!) has a better one!
[03:05] <SoulPropagation> change the / to wherever you mounted /dev/hda1
[03:05] <themachine> yea its ntfs
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> lgc, System -> Administration - >networking
[03:05] <StarKruzr> ntfs is supposed to be mountable rw now, I think.
[03:06] <nickrud> StarKruzr, you probably need to enable talkd; look at /etc/default, or /usr/share/doc/talkd
[03:06] <blanky> guys, I installed kubuntu desktop, and chose to use GDM, but when I had the update, in the beginning where it says 'enabling hotplug' and stuff, it says kubuntu, how can I change that?
[03:06] <StarKruzr> nickrud: I think I did that.  there's an "enable" command for update-inetd and I did that before.  lemme look at those though
[03:07] <Ophiocus> themachine, ntfs file systems are read only,.. if you want a dual boot system that can write to windows partitions while booting in linux you need your windows partition to be fat32,.. if you can get your hands on partition magic, that ll do the trick for you
[03:07] <SoulPropagation> how do i install Motif?
[03:07] <blanky> Can someone please listen to me, anyone
[03:07] <StarKruzr> nickrud: what am I looking for in /etc/default?
[03:07] <lgc> wickedpuppy, that's the one mean! I don't get many options there. For example, when I want to go wireless at different locations. Or if I want WPA coding or whatever.
[03:07] <blanky> Seveas are you here
[03:07] <nickrud> SoulPropagation, sudo apt-get install libmotif3
[03:07] <nickrud> StarKruzr, if you're lucky, a file named talkd
[03:07] <SoulPropagation> nickrud: ah, thanks
[03:08] <StarKruzr> blanky: what are you asking?  isn't GDM the GNU Desktop Manager for Gnome?
[03:08] <blanky> okay, forget that, I'll figure it out. my main question is this
[03:08] <Amaranth> nalioth: haha, i got my breezy cds today from canonical
[03:08] <blanky> starKruzr you listening? its kinda long and I typed it a couple times haha
[03:08] <GorillaFromBeyon> how to i start xubuntu from console (in server installation) after i installed x11 ?
[03:08] <Zedugh> StarKruzr, besides configuring inetd.conf to enable talkd, you need to have the inetd daemon started
[03:09] <nalioth> Amaranth: who's quicker?
[03:09] <mcadory> Amaranth: how long did it take yours to arrive?
[03:09] <StarKruzr> nickrud: there's nothing useful in there either
[03:09] <Amaranth> mcadory: two days before release to now
[03:09] <StarKruzr> Zedugh: It is.  It's sitting in my process list.  Mocking me, in fact.
[03:09] <SoulPropagation> ack. there's no libmotif3 package - is it in the multiverse?
[03:09] <Amaranth> nalioth: obviously.... :)
[03:09] <blanky> okay, in this page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba ), under 'time to fill in your settings', at the end of that section, it says Q: I dont have a window networking section, only hostname and domain name, what do I do know?, but it never answers it
[03:09] <blanky> StarKruzr, you read that?
[03:09] <francis1710> hola
[03:10] <StarKruzr> I don't know about setting up Samba under Ubuntu, if that's what you mean.
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> lgc, the feeling is that if you do not know what you are doing gui or not won't help you ... and if you know what you are doing then you need no gui :P
[03:10] <henry> hello...some of you have any idea where can i configure the winmodem if ubuntu has detected it???
[03:10] <blanky> wickedpuppy
[03:10] <nickrud> StarKruzr, usually the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/<package> has useful info; I've never used talkd itself, but that's the place I nearly always find what I need
[03:10] <blanky> wickedpuppy are you registered? I'd like to pm you something
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> blanky, sure ... pm me
[03:10] <StarKruzr> nickrud: there's no README.Debian in there.
[03:10] <PinTo> just a Q's if i install GNU debian i386 binary will...my ubuntu walkthroughs be relevant?
[03:10] <nickrud> StarKruzr, then, I'm sorry about the false trail
[03:11] <StarKruzr> we have changelog.Debian.gz, changelog.gz, and copyright.
[03:11] <StarKruzr> I can paste the contents of my inetd.conf to someone if they like.
[03:11] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: still around?
[03:11] <henry> when i say that ubuntu detected the winmodem i mean that using system > administration > device manager....it detects the modem and says that is an intel, etc, etc
[03:11] <Amaranth> PinTo: If you use debian some of the stuff will be relevant but unless you know the differences you won't know what to follow and what not to follow
[03:11] <henry> some idea
[03:11] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, yes
[03:11] <lgc> wickedpuppy, you hit me right on the spot. But be merciful. I want something to make some thinghs easier for me. What is so stupid in what I did?
[03:11] <GorillaFromBeyon> trying to launch xubuntu
[03:12] <PinTo> ubuntu is i386
[03:12] <gar-> im trying to put to run in ubuntu 5.04 the dlink DWL-G122 USB wireless adapter and i canot get it on any suggection....
[03:12] <StarKruzr> talk            dgram   udp     wait    nobody.tty      /usr/sbin/in.talkd      in.talkd
[03:12] <GorillaFromBeyon> X works but i have no DM installed (xdm, gdm, etc)
[03:12] <StarKruzr> and that's it.
[03:12] <Amaranth> PinTo: x86, ppc, and amd64
[03:12] <StarKruzr> well, there's another one for "ntalk."
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> lgc, nothing ... i don't share that feeling either .. i am teaching my girlfriend how to use linux ... LOL
[03:12] <henry> some idea?
[03:12] <PinTo> right
[03:12] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: yes, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu there isn't one installed by default
[03:12] <henry> some help??
[03:12] <GorillaFromBeyon> so i just see the pointer when i start x (obviously)
[03:13] <blanky> wickedpuppy I messaged you
[03:13] <gar-> any one here have a running DWL-G122 usb wireless adapter on ubuntu please let me know
[03:13] <StarKruzr> henry: I'm afraid I don't use modems, or I would try to help.
[03:13] <henry> StarKruzr thanks...
[03:13] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: hopefully there's some info on that page that helps
[03:13] <GorillaFromBeyon> gone, done, thanks =)
[03:13] <GorillaFromBeyon> installing gdm now
[03:13] <lgc> wickedpuppy, if you can make things clearer to someone like me, there are no chances she won't grasp it.
[03:13] <StarKruzr> maybe I need to change that "wait" to "nowait."
[03:13] <Octane> whats the best way to fsck a mounted partition?
[03:14] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, gone, done, thanks =)
[03:14] <SoulPropagation> Octane: fscking a mounted partition kills it deddd
[03:14] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: np :)
[03:14] <GorillaFromBeyon> waiting for gdm to install
[03:14] <Octane> SoulPropagation: i know you dont do that... what do i  do then to fsck my /root?
[03:14] <gar-> any one can help me setting up the Dlink DWL-G122 USB wireless adapter please
[03:14] <iamkirk> can ubuntu run counterstrike ? :p
[03:14] <AngryPlum> so does nebody know of ati drivers that work on ubuntu live??
[03:14] <SoulPropagation> Octane: / or /root?
[03:14] <AngryPlum> maybe a link ??
[03:14] <SoulPropagation> iamkirk: yes. http://cedega.com
[03:14] <Octane> i mean /
[03:15] <francis1710> hola
[03:15] <themachine> this is what I got     themachine@theheartofthesun:~$ sudo mount /media/"0 GB Disk (hda1)" /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[03:15] <themachine> mount: /media/0 GB Disk (hda1) is not a block device
[03:15] <SoulPropagation> Octane: there's a way to force fscking
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> lgc, she is a bio student ... lol
[03:15] <SoulPropagation> ** at boot time
[03:15] <Octane> im not going to force an fsck on a mounted parition
[03:15] <francis1710> hi
[03:15] <mcadory> gar-: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=116462
[03:15] <SoulPropagation> it's before it gets mounted
[03:15] <lgc> wickedpuppy, biologists are smart, don't underestimate them!
[03:16] <StarKruzr> yeah
[03:16] <Octane> SoulPropagation: i am asking how to do that!
[03:16] <StarKruzr> they'll pull out the petri dishes and infect you with something nasty :o
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> lgc, alright alright ... i think we are out of topic .... well .. if yours is using dhcp try dhclient eth0
[03:16] <os2mac> just wondering why I had a pm from you.
[03:16] <henry> some of you have ever configured a windmodem???
[03:16] <cafuego> Octane: Mount it read-only, then fsck it.
[03:17] <catherine> can i easily look a dvd on my television with ubuntu ?
[03:17] <StarKruzr> anyone else inetd-savvy?
[03:17] <mcadory> gar-: its a start.  google'd dwl-g122 linux howto
[03:17] <lgc> wickedpuppy, thanks. But what is that supposed to do? (See, I WANT to learn!)
[03:17] <lightbright> catherine: what?
[03:17] <Octane> cafuego: in grub change ro to r then fsck fix it?
[03:17] <StarKruzr> it still apparently hates me.
[03:17] <catherine> lightbright: watch a dvd
[03:17] <StarKruzr> catherine: you're going to have trouble with DVDs right away because there are no licensed DVD players for Linux
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> lgc, that will try to get the ip from dhcp server
[03:17] <lightbright> catherine: I can watch a dvd on Ubuntu yes
[03:17] <StarKruzr> no free ones, anyway
[03:18] <lightbright> catherine: but in my country its ok to watch DVD
[03:18] <akonkwa> lightbrihgt: I'm trying to send you the file
[03:18] <catherine> lightbright: i mean put what's on my screen on the TV actually
[03:18] <lgc> wickedpuppy, See, you saved me hours of perusing online manuals!
[03:18] <devnul> hello
[03:18] <cafuego> Octane: Go to single-user mode. (sudo init 1). Then unmount all non-/ filesystems. Then 'mount -n -o remount,ro /' to mount it read-only. Then run fsck. Then 'mount -n -o remount,rw /'. Then remount non-/ filesystems, then 'init 2' to go back to multi-user mode.
[03:18] <lightbright> akonkwa:  its ok I got it already now
[03:18] <StarKruzr> catherine: you're going to need a specific device for that.
[03:18] <lightbright> akonkwa:  thanks anyway :)
[03:18] <cafuego> Octane: No rebooting inviolved, unless fsck _needs_ to.
[03:18] <StarKruzr> maybe your graphics card has video-out?
[03:18] <francis1710> yes
[03:18] <Octane> cafuego: bueaitful thank you so much
[03:19] <themachine> theres a good dvd player for linux that boots up your pc called Geexbox
[03:19] <akonkwa> lightbright : np
[03:19] <cafuego> Octane: Alternatively, you can run 'sudo touch /forcefsck' and reboot; that should force FSCK on / after a reboot.
[03:19] <catherine> I jut want to be able to use a S-VIDEO cable between my computer and my TV on ubuntu, is that easy to do ?
[03:19] <StarKruzr> themachine: "boots up your pc?"
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> lgc, you must learn to rtfm ... sometimes there is nobody but you and the shell
[03:19] <catherine> like on windows xp
[03:19] <Octane> cafuego: using touch, which partitions wil lthat fsck?
[03:19] <StarKruzr> catherine: what are you going to do about sound?
[03:19] <Octane> oh on/
[03:19] <cafuego> Octane: only /
[03:19] <StarKruzr> catherine: have you tried it already?
[03:19] <Red-Sox> for some reason, my gaim account all the sudden wont sign ov
[03:19] <Red-Sox> on*
[03:19] <Octane> so i fi do 'sudo touch /home/forcefsck' itll fsck it too?
[03:19] <cafuego> Octane: The rest you can do by hand.
[03:19] <lightbright> catherine:  so saving you byuing a dvd player for your TV, right? :)
[03:19] <catherine> StarKruzr: i don't care of the sound
[03:20] <StarKruzr> hm
[03:20] <StarKruzr> okay
[03:20] <cafuego> Octane: No, BUT you can do somethign tricky with 'tune2fs'
[03:20] <StarKruzr> but have you tried it already?
[03:20] <lightbright> akonkwa:  :)
[03:20] <StarKruzr> because honestly I can't think of a reason it wouldn't work.
[03:20] <iamkirk> is there any way i can play counterstrike on linux without having to pay
[03:20] <Octane> cuz i really need to fsck my /home parititon
[03:20] <cafuego> Octane: Yiou can unmount /home, then mark it as dirty via tune2fs. if it's marked dirty, it will be fsck'ed at boorup.
[03:20] <iamkirk> this cedega thing is nifty but i dont want to spend money :p
[03:20] <catherine> lightbright: it's not only for DVDs, but also for presentations on TV screen
[03:20] <StarKruzr> iamkirk: this is probably not the place to ask about warez ;)
[03:20] <lightbright> catherine:  sounds good
[03:21] <lgc> wickedpuppy,  It's been like that for many years. That's why I don't know much. I found the treasure cove with this "xchat" thing!
[03:21] <catherine> it's so easy to do with windows xp, i thought it could possible on ubuntu
[03:21] <cafuego> Octane: If you'd like to fsck all of them easily, close all apps, then hit the reset button on the computer case ;-)
[03:21] <iamkirk> im not talking about free... i bought a copy of counterstrike today and dont want to play it in winblows ;P
[03:21] <catherine> just need a svideo cable
[03:21] <StarKruzr> ahhh
[03:21] <Zedugh> catherine, what kind of video card do you have?
[03:21] <lightbright> catherine: anything possible with XP is possible with Linux :)
[03:21] <Octane> cafuego:  ive actually done that and suprisingly it doesnt fsck everything :)
[03:22] <cafuego> Octane: No, only stuff marked dirty (but that SHOULD include home and / anyway)
[03:22] <iamkirk> i see ways of playing cs on linux , but i dont want to have to pay twice to play a game
[03:22] <sri> hi all
[03:22] <iamkirk> thats all im asking
[03:22] <catherine> Zedugh: ati
[03:22] <sri> anybody getting this strange bug with Xorg spinning 100% if you load an app that uses gtk treeview widget?
[03:22] <catherine> Zedugh: radeon
[03:22] <lgc> wickedpuppy, back on topic again, when I do "dhclient eth0" will I lose my eth1 link?
[03:22] <cafuego> iamkirk: That's the joy of proprietary software.
[03:23] <Octane> cafuego: thanks for your help. im gonna try this out. i appreciate it.
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> lgc, i am not sure .... see i never use two ethernet at the same time ... assume it will
[03:23] <Mabus06> the sound quality for my doom 3 on linux is so incredibly bad... how do I fix this?
[03:23] <iamkirk> so no counterstrike on linux.....disappointing
[03:24] <cafuego> iamkirk: Via Cedega it ought to run fine.
[03:24] <lightbright> !wvdial
[03:24] <lgc> wickedpuppy, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". I rather wait, that is.
[03:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, lightbright
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> lgc, agree with ya there ...
[03:24] <lightbright> anyone know what exactly wvdial is?
[03:24] <cafuego> !info wvdial
[03:24] <ubotu> wvdial: (PPP dialer with built-in intelligence), section comm, is optional. Version: 1.54.0-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 320 kB
[03:24] <lightbright> cafuego: thanks
[03:24] <Mabus06> lightbright, doom 3 has incredibly crappy sound quality for me, any idea how to change this? the video works just smoothly
[03:25] <cafuego> !rule 1
[03:25] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[03:25] <lightbright> cafuego: how is wvdial different from gnome-ppp ?
[03:25] <lgc> wickedpuppy, can you tell me where I can find some 'succint' intro to Linux network interfaces?
[03:25] <kwtm2> !rule 2
[03:25] <ubotu> kwtm2: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:25] <themachine> is there any special way to mount ntfs with write ability?
[03:25] <cafuego> lightbright: I have no idea.
[03:25] <lightbright> Mabus06: sorry I am not sure.
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> lgc, google
[03:25] <lightbright> cafuego: ok ty anyway
[03:25] <lightbright> Mabus06: can you change it in options of the game?
[03:25] <cafuego> themachine: Yes, via using an ugly hack to load the actual windows NT driver into the kernel. (captive ntfs)
[03:25] <Mabus06> anyone have any idea how I can make the sound quality for doom 3 not so incredibly crappy?
[03:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  does Doom 3 have a sounds Option?
[03:26] <Mabus06> lightbright, no... no "crappy sound' checkbox ;)
[03:26] <cafuego> themachine: It cannot be done with the normal (free) driver without destroying the filesystem.
[03:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  lol ;)
[03:26] <lgc> wickedpuppy, Google is very helpful, but sometimes you get swamped in info an you don't get what you want. Better ask the 'connosieurs'
[03:26] <Mabus06> lightbright, no real audio options that would point to a fix
[03:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  im surprised because most games have a sound options
[03:26] <lightbright> Mabus06: ok
[03:26] <francis1710> nosilber
[03:26] <francis1710> k lo k
[03:27] <lightbright> Mabus06:  can you run doom with paramaters?
[03:27] <iamkirk> linux is owning me
[03:27] <tyoung> Anybody know how to fix your sudoers file?  I tried adding a user to it for the first time, and now it has some sort of syntax error.
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> lgc, be specific ... btw ... did you google for the error you got ? someone already fixed it
[03:27] <Mabus06> I don't know, can I?
[03:27] <cafuego> iamkirk: cedega is far cheaper than windows.
[03:27] <mrkoje> iamkirk: haha windows is owning me right now
[03:27] <iamkirk> windows was free :P
[03:27] <cafuego> iamkirk: No, it wasn't.
[03:27] <lightbright> Mabus06:  not sure!  do a search with google looking for doom3 and your name of sound card
[03:28] <Mabus06> lightbright, sound was working just as bad with my onboard
[03:28] <cafuego> it was eprhaps not on the bill, but that's another issue :-)
[03:28] <iamkirk> when i ran windows i never had to pay for anything :P
[03:28] <lightbright> Mabus06: maybe doom doesnt properlt recognise them
[03:28] <mrkoje> for some reason... Win automatic update decided to download a new Sil3114 raid driver that broke my system
[03:28] <iamkirk> im not cheap... im just a student
[03:28] <bimberi> tyoung: reboot into recovery mode and fix it from there
[03:28] <lightbright> iamkirk: are you a thief?
[03:28] <mrkoje> mfer win update
[03:28] <themachine> hes a pirate yarr
[03:28] <lightbright> themachine: :P
[03:28] <lgc> wickedpuppy, yes, I got it. But again, I'll have to read a lot! (Yes, I know, I should't consider Linux if I don't like to read forever, right?)
[03:29] <iamkirk>  that hurts guys.... because i have a peg-leg im considered a pirate
[03:29] <tyoung> bimberi: tks
[03:29] <iamkirk> ;P
[03:29] <lightbright> iamkirk: :P
[03:29] <bimberi> tyoung: yw :)
[03:29] <lightbright> cafuego: lol
[03:29] <B_166-ER-X> good things that KDE apps works with gnome..cause i find em much better.... K3b, ktorrent, ark..
[03:30] <breezy> eek its taken
[03:30] <bimberi> breezybright then?
[03:30] <lightbright> bimberi:  hehe ;)
[03:31] <basti__> once I have made a group, how do I put users into that group using terminal?
[03:31] <lightbright> brb food time :)  yum
[03:31] <typewriter> usermod -G group user
[03:31] <cafuego> basti__: sudo adduser <user> <group>
[03:31] <lightbright> bimberi: whats difference between typing gksudo nautilus and sudo nautilus ?
[03:31] <Nanook> Hi guys
[03:31] <basti__> cafuego, Idont want a new user. I think typewriters answer was correct. thanks both of you :)
[03:32] <cafuego> basti__: No, you are mistaken.
[03:32] <bimberi> lightbright: the type of password prompt (gui or cli)
[03:32] <nalioth> lightbright: the gksudo is a bit safer to use, due to permissioning
[03:32] <cafuego> basti__: My command add <user> to <group>. It doesn't create new users or groups.
[03:32] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok
[03:32] <lightbright> nalioth: ok thanks
[03:32] <lightbright> brb food time :)
[03:32] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, xubuntu is not listed in gdm window managers
[03:32] <crimsun> that's because "xubuntu" is not a window manager
[03:33] <iamkirk> bah
[03:33] <GorillaFromBeyon> so gdm starts but when i log in nothing happens of course since i dont have gnome installed
[03:33] <crimsun> 'xubuntu-desktop' is a metapackage
[03:33] <basti__> ok then. just seemed like adduser does infact do adda  new user ;) I will write this down in my memo list. thanks for the info
[03:33] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: how about the Session list?
[03:33] <crimsun> "xfwm4" is the actual window manager
[03:33] <GorillaFromBeyon> it doesnt appear in the session list
[03:33] <iamkirk> fine you rat buggers , ill pay for that service.... if my vred card has room on it
[03:33] <crimsun> GorillaFromBeyon: did you install 'xubuntu-desktop'?
[03:33] <ghostpsalm> Is there anyway to make a LOG of the boot process... so I can look at it when it is not going so fast?
[03:33] <iamkirk> but if it sucks im writing you all an angry letter
[03:33] <cafuego> crimsun: But it'll probably be listed as 'XFCE4'.
[03:34] <Nanook> I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my computer, and I opened Firefox and tried to install Macromedia Flash Player, dowloaded the file and opened it OK, and it said I need to "copy the following files into the browser plugin folder...", how do I access this folder, as I can't seem to find it
[03:34] <cafuego> iamkirk: Notwe that (just like windows and cs) cedega is proprietary and the AUTHORS should support you.
[03:35] <vegos> i am having trouble compiling
[03:35] <vegos> can someone help
[03:35] <crimsun> install build-essential
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> vegos, compiling what ?
[03:35] <GorillaFromBeyon> crimsun GorillaFromBeyon: did you install 'xubuntu-desktop'? ahem, whoops (installing it now)
[03:35] <vegos> i have downloaded a few programs
[03:35] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: i though you installed it earlier! :)
[03:35] <bimberi> *thought
[03:36] <vegos> but when i enter "make"
[03:36] <GorillaFromBeyon> i installed xubuntu desktop manager something
[03:36] <vegos> it says something about target
[03:36] <GorillaFromBeyon> that u told me
[03:36] <ghostpsalm> Is there a log of the boot process?
[03:36] <GorillaFromBeyon> wait, it still doesnt appear in the session list in gdm
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> vegos, have you done ./configure first ?
[03:36] <vegos> yes
[03:36] <henry> this one is easy: how can i choose the color deepth in ubuntu linux?
[03:36] <cafuego> do not do ./configure
[03:37] <Nanook> how can I find the folder FIrefox is installed in??
[03:37] <LTL> ghostpsalm type dmesg
[03:37] <GorillaFromBeyon> i only have default, failsafe gnome and failsafe terminal
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> cafuego, why not ? i thought SOP is ./configure;make;make install ?
[03:37] <cafuego> GorillaFromBeyon: 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[03:37] <vegos> thats what i thought too
[03:37] <GorillaFromBeyon> i did that
[03:37] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[03:37] <cafuego> wickedpuppy: It is, HOWEVER: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[03:38] <cafuego> wickedpuppy: ... for great justice (and easier management)
[03:38] <mrkoje> cafuego: If the app isn't listed in the repository then you have to make it yourself
[03:38] <tommy> im on ubuntu can some one help me access my windows partion to get my mp3's
[03:38] <Zedugh> ghostpalm, or try Applications->SystemTools->SystemLog
[03:38] <mrkoje> cafuego: dont you
[03:38] <vegos> tommy: have you mounted
[03:39] <GorillaFromBeyon> i restarted X before and now i did as u told me, it restarted gdm but still nothing changed in the session list
[03:39] <tommy> nope
[03:39] <ghostpsalm> LTL:  Do you know of anyway to scroll back through a terminal - when you are not in a window manager?
[03:40] <tommy> vegos,  can u help me
[03:40] <SoulPropagation> ghostpsalm: shift+pgup
[03:40] <vegos> tommy:http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[03:40] <ghostpsalm> Chhers.
[03:40] <vegos> mount your windows partition
[03:40] <vegos> and then you should be able to do it
[03:41] <krak`nix> how do i use grep to search for files containing "m3u" in their text
[03:41] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: hm, unfortunately i don't use xubuntu so am struggling to help :/ - perhaps check ubuntuforums
[03:41] <sri> so I just managed to upgrade again and it updated xserver-xorg-core
[03:41] <sri> and that made a bigger mess.
[03:41] <Red-Sox> how do you do a direct client to client in gaim
[03:41] <bimberi> krak`nix: grep m3u *
[03:41] <cafuego> krak`nix: 'grep m3u *'
[03:41] <sri> so nobody has any problems with X on dapper?
[03:41] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, don't mention it, thank you very much
[03:42] <SoulPropagation> Red-Sox: you can't - it's not working too well yet
[03:42] <Mabus06> could someone help me with my problems playing doom3 for linux? the sound quality is unbelievably choppy. there may be fixes on google but they're all over my head. Can anyone please help me? Please/
[03:42] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: np :)
[03:42] <cafuego> krak`nix: if you hve binary files there too, pipe the outout into 'less'.
[03:42] <watnu> Red-Sox: you need a jabberd server
[03:42] <Red-Sox> okay
[03:42] <Red-Sox> ill try kopete
[03:42] <vegos> so about this make problem
[03:42] <vegos> can someone help
[03:42] <cafuego> sri: of course you'll have issues with an unstable release. Why did you think upgrading was a good idea?
[03:43] <henry> some idea where can I start to recompile the kernel???
[03:43] <SoulPropagation> vegos: what's the error
[03:43] <sri> cafuego: just wanted to help test :)
[03:43] <krak`nix> into less?
[03:43] <cafuego> henry: Why do you need to do that?
[03:43] <watnu> 
[03:43] <vegos> when i enter "make"
[03:43] <cafuego> krak`nix: 'grep m3u * | less'
[03:43] <sri> cafuego: although next time I might just do it under vmware instead.
[03:43] <vegos> it says something about not having a target
[03:43] <bimberi> bah, cafuego too fast that time :)
[03:43] <cafuego> watnu: precies
[03:43] <cafuego> bimberi: muaha!
[03:44] <henry> cafuego I think that if I do it, I can compile it with the driver of the winmodem...
[03:44] <krak`nix> how about being recursive?  this doesnt seem to be going into folders
[03:44] <henry> may be may be...
[03:44] <cafuego> henry: You should be able to compile JUST the driver
[03:44] <SoulPropagation> vegos: do ./configure first
[03:44] <woozleboy> can someone help me with installing 5.1 on a sparc ultra 2?
[03:44] <mrkoje> tiene feliz dia acciones de gracias
[03:44] <henry> cafuego I am a newbye in linux...some guide to read about?
[03:44] <cafuego> henry: You'll need (on breezy) gcc-3.4, build-essential, kernel-headers-($uname -r)
[03:45] <bimberi> krak`nix: grep -r m3u * | less
[03:45] <vegos> i have
[03:45] <cafuego> woozleboy: 5.1 what?
[03:45] <vegos> still have the same problem
[03:45] <Mabus06> could someone help me with my problems playing doom3 for linux? the sound quality is unbelievably choppy. there may be fixes on google but they're all over my head. Can anyone please help me? Please/
[03:45] <woozleboy> 5.10
[03:45] <cafuego> vegos: Check the INSTALL file.
[03:45] <cafuego> woozleboy: Are there unofficial sparc idos?
[03:45] <cafuego> isos?
[03:45] <woozleboy> yes
[03:45] <jorge_> sup guys
[03:45] <vegos> i have this problem with multiple (different) installs
[03:46] <woozleboy> well, its a mini iso that does a net install
[03:46] <vegos> with the same result
[03:46] <typewriter> i just installed the 'base' system of ubuntu.. wanna install kubuntu but didnt wanna go through downloading the cd
[03:46] <cafuego> woozleboy: Can you boot that thing from the cd?
[03:46] <typewriter> all i need to do now is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop... corerct?
[03:46] <SoulPropagation> typewriter: yes
[03:46] <cafuego> typewriter: Yep
[03:46] <Zedugh> vegos, check the website from where you downloaded the source. look for installation instructions, you might need to specify the target, ie: make <some-target>. Also the problem might be a bad make file. Lots of stuff ive downloaded wont compile. Just because its downloadable (even if the author says its so good, etc) doesn't mean it compiles or works.
[03:46] <woozleboy> i can boot. the problem Im having is that no disks are detected. looks like there is no driver for the onboard scsi
[03:46] <cafuego> woozleboy: Do you know offhand what controller that is?
[03:47] <woozleboy> but theres not much in the way of docs, so Im looking for someone who may have done the install
[03:47] <vegos> i think that it is something more than that becasue everything ive downloaded wont compile
[03:47] <woozleboy> its an STP2202.......   I think it is a Sun custom controller
[03:47] <cafuego> vegos: Did ./configure wrok or fail?
[03:47] <Zedugh> vegos, type 'make --version' and see what make you're running
[03:47] <vegos> it worked
[03:48] <cafuego> woozleboy: it's be very odd if that wasn't supported in a sun-specific version...
[03:48] <woozleboy> linux is supposed to have support for the sun4u architecture, which I hope includes that chip
[03:48] <cafuego> vegos: is there a 'Makefile' in the current directory?
[03:48] <vegos> yes, there is a makefile
[03:48] <woozleboy> the chip and disks test ok, and I have solaris 7 installed on them
[03:48] <cafuego> vegos: What does 'INSTALL" or 'README" say you should run?
[03:49] <vegos> all of the downloads ive encountered say to do the ./configure;make;make install
[03:49] <SoulPropagation> vegos: "cat INSTALL"
[03:49] <cafuego> vegos: That's nice, but doesn't answer my question.
[03:50] <vegos> cat INSTALL?
[03:50] <SoulPropagation> vegos: ya
[03:50] <SoulPropagation> look at that file
[03:50] <SoulPropagation> it should tell you something
[03:50] <vegos> i have to go to my ubuntu partition
[03:50] <vegos> be back in a few
[03:51] <Mabus06> can someone help me to update my emu10k1 drivers?
[03:51] <Mabus06> I downloaded the tar file of the recent release, unarchived it, and I have a folder with a bunch of files in it, what do I do with it?
[03:51] <SoulPropagation> Mabus06: ./configure && make && make install
[03:52] <Mabus06> uh... noob it down for me
[03:52] <SoulPropagation> Mabus06: go to a terminal, cd into the directory
[03:52] <SoulPropagation> and type that
[03:52] <cafuego> SoulPropagation forgot step 1.
[03:52] <cafuego> Read the damn docs that come with it.
[03:52] <SoulPropagation> cafuego: *whistle*
[03:52] <Mabus06> there were no docs, cheery one
[03:53] <varsendagger> is SWAT here?
[03:53] <bimberi> also s/make install/checkinstall/      (after installing checkinstall)
[03:53] <snausages> Hey all, how can I test my CD burner, to check if there's something wrong with it? I get a lot of errors when trying to burn ISOs - most of the CDs end up being unbootable
[03:53] <cafuego> Mabus06: You're going to need the header files associated with your current kernel. Run 'sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)'
[03:53] <Mabus06> bash: ./: is a directory
[03:54] <lightbright> snausages: hello porky
[03:54] <Mabus06> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[03:54] <snausages> lightbright, huh?
[03:54] <lightbright> snausages: porky as in pork :P
[03:55] <sri> eh?
[03:55] <navarone> lightbright> that's not kosher...;)
[03:55] <lightbright> snausages: you running gnomebaker or k3b?
[03:55] <sri> mm.. sausages
[03:55] <lightbright> navarone: :)
[03:55] <snausages> lightbright, i tried both
[03:55] <snausages> k3b usually screws up more
[03:55] <SoulPropagation> snausages: try cdrecord
[03:55] <lightbright> snausages: what size cd-rw you using?
[03:55] <snausages> lightbright, 700mb
[03:56] <snausages> or wait
[03:56] <snausages> it may be a 650
[03:56] <kwtm1> Hi, all: what's the cmd-line way to see if a package is installed, not yet installed, or nonexistent again?  Is it "dpkg MyPackage" or "apt-get MyPackage" or which?  (Bonus points if I can also see the source of the package, e.g. "MyPackage is not installed but Ubuntu will get it from www.MoreUbuntuPackages.org" or something.
[03:56] <pepsi1> i am having problems with fonts
[03:56] <snausages> no, 700
[03:56] <snausages> lightbright, it's not a cd-rw, but a cd-r :)
[03:56] <pepsi1> is there some kind of secret to being able to use all the fonts on my machine?
[03:57] <lightbright> snausages: are you telling it 700 and your right speed it can do?
[03:57] <SoulPropagation> kwtm1: dpkg -l | grep packagename || apt-get install packagename
[03:57] <snausages> lightbright, yes
[03:57] <lightbright> snausages: tried test burn first?
[03:57] <gerard_21> hi!!
[03:57] <kwtm1> Thanks, SoulPropagation
[03:57] <lightbright> snausages: do the test burns work?
[03:57] <snausages> lightbright, no, i haven't done that
[03:57] <SoulPropagation> kwtm1: yeah sure no prob
[03:57] <steaven> who use samsung printe
[03:57] <snausages> lightbright, i haven't done tests, i did a burn right away
[03:57] <lightbright> snausages: just do test
[03:57] <snausages> actually i got some new cds today, and yeah, i'll try a test first
[03:58] <lightbright> snausages: just do test till you get it right!  has it picked up your right model?
[03:58] <kwtm1> SoulPropagation: I'm looking at the output; does the existence of a greppable line mean that the package is already installed?
[03:58] <gerard_21> beautiful!!
[03:58] <snausages> lightbright, it has the right burner model, yes
[03:58] <SoulPropagation> kwtm1: yah
[03:58] <gerard_21> Any one here care to chat??
[03:58] <lightbright> snausages: cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA
[03:58] <kwtm1> SoulPropagation: Part of what I want to do here is to identify the correct packagename, or at least know if I've spelled the package name wrong.
[03:58] <snausages> lightbright, i think it may be the cd-rs though
[03:58] <SoulPropagation> error: The Motif library '-lXm' could not be found. <-- i have motif installed and it sees motif, so why isn't it there?
[03:58] <lightbright> snausages: have you ever used that brand cd-r before?
[03:58] <SoulPropagation> kwtm1: what Do you want to do
[03:58] <snausages> lightbright, what does that do
[03:59] <snausages> lightbright, yes, but usually just for audio cds, not for ISOs
[03:59] <sri> well, if X is broken then I shall build X..mwhaha.
[03:59] <gerard_21> Hi there!!
[03:59] <kwtm1> SoulPropagation: Say I want to install, I dunno, "Colour Paint"  ... but maybe it's "kolourpaint" or "kolor_paint" or something.  I want to know what the deb package is called.
[03:59] <lightbright> snausages: ok well are they made especially for audio?
[03:59] <bimberi> SoulPropagation: libmotif-dev perhaps??
[03:59] <sri> cvs X11 is pretty hot I hear
[03:59] <snausages> lightbright, no
[03:59] <snausages> lightbright, general purpose
[03:59] <gerard_21> color-paint !!
[03:59] <SoulPropagation> bimberi: maybe
[03:59] <lightbright> snausages: ok
[04:00] <gerard_21> yeah maybe!!
[04:00] <lightbright> snausages: you come from windows?
[04:00] <bimberi> SoulPropagation: worth a try :)
[04:00] <navarone> snausages> did you specify you were burung a image file to cd or just data? If data you amy have just burned the .iso to cd
[04:00] <SoulPropagation> bimberi: word
[04:00] <sri> cafuego: it takes a certain amount of patience to deal with people who aren't familiar with teh command line..!!
[04:00] <snausages> lightbright, yes but i haven't used windows in a few months
[04:00] <lightbright> snausages: read navarone question
[04:00] <snausages> navarone, i did an iso burn
[04:00] <SoulPropagation> sri: there's a reason bash is older than X ;)
[04:00] <SoulPropagation> well, sh
[04:00] <snausages> an image burn, rather
[04:01] <lightbright> snausages: what is on the cd?
[04:01] <navarone> image burns take forever to heal
[04:01] <lightbright> snausages: is everything on there, it just cant boot?
[04:01] <Liket> does anyone have any idea how to use a block device (hardware raid-5) greater than 2TB in breezy on an EM64T system?
[04:01] <vid21> Has anyone here tried to install Ubuntu from hard disk using Knoppix: bootfrom=/dev/hda2/ubuntu.iso
[04:01] <snausages> lightbright, sometimes the cd boots, but i get erros midway in the install
[04:01] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:01] <snausages> i also checked the md5sum, that was ok
[04:01] <lightbright> snausages: did it copy everyhing to the CD is what Im asking
[04:01] <navarone> snausages what brand cd you using?
[04:01] <snausages> navarone, sony
[04:01] <snausages> :P
[04:02] <SoulPropagation> Liket: prolly just a special driver
[04:02] <lightbright> snausages: if everything copied, then it seems to work and maybe prob with image, not ubuntu, not cd writer or cd's
[04:02] <gerard_21> May i can help you if you want!!
[04:02] <kwtm1> Okay, I've got to go.  Bye all!
[04:02] <Liket> SoulPropagation: which special driver, and for what?
[04:02] <snausages> lightbright, ok, i'm gonna do a test burn for now, and then try my new cd-rs also
[04:02] <SoulPropagation> Liket: noooo idea. i don't work with stuff on that scale
[04:02] <Zedugh> kwtm1: sudo apt-get -s install <package-name>
[04:02] <lightbright> snausages: great idea and check to see if everything copied
[04:03] <Liket> SoulPropagation: the raid controller is supported fine, but i'm having problems creating a partition that big in cfdisk, parted as well as the installer
[04:03] <gerard_21> yeah yeah!!!!!!!
[04:03] <navarone> SoulProp> was way over my head as well...:)
[04:03] <sri> SoulPropagation: actually I believe bourne is older than X, bash I think came after X.
[04:03] <lightbright> Liket: have you tried gparted?
[04:03] <henry> ey what does it mean that modules in the kernel are not available under a
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <henry> completely Free licence??? am I using pirate software??????????????????????
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <h2theizzo> ?
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <Mabus06> shut up gerard_21
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <Ueuecoyotl> Nope.
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <navarone> gerard stop flooding
[04:03] <ale3hs> listen, I downloaded amule, and every file in in waiting status?? whats goinon?? first time i run amule and linux in general
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <cafuego> Liket: That may or may not require a custom kernel.
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:03] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:04] <cafuego> gerard_21: Stop spamming.
[04:04] <gerard_21> anyone here??
[04:04] <cafuego> !ops
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[04:04] <cafuego> !ops
[04:04] <ttrygve> is there a gparted/qtparted like program that understands LVM?
[04:04] <ttrygve> gerard, shut the fuck up
[04:04] <henry> h2theizzo it seems none is here, jejeje
[04:04] <Ueuecoyotl> I like /ignore :)
[04:04] <gerard_21> hahahah!!
[04:04] <jorge_> this is the unregistered channel
[04:04] <cafuego> !ops
[04:04] <h2theizzo> hah
[04:04] <h2theizzo> dood needs to be kicked out
[04:04] <h2theizzo> there we go
[04:04] <cafuego> Amaranth: thanks!
[04:04] <henry>  h2theizzo sorry, last message was for  gerard_21
[04:04] <Weng> Is there a way to add another mirror/repository to Synaptic from the commandline?
[04:04] <cafuego> nalioth even :-)
[04:04] <ttrygve> damn, gaim doesn't seem to understand /ignore
[04:04] <Liket> cafuego: i did read about a CONFIG_LBD flag in the kernel, but according to the info I found, it would only affect the 32-bit version -- the 64-bit version would always support greater block devices than 2TB.. also, i'm pretty sure the default ubuntu kernel is compiled with it
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[04:04] <h2theizzo> -=snickers=- its ok henry
[04:04] <ale3hs> answer me ... do I have to download another program?? is amule ok??
[04:04] <Amaranth> navarone: No need if he stops.
[04:05] <h2theizzo> bah
[04:05] <h2theizzo> 10 hour day today
[04:05] <h2theizzo> im pooped out
[04:05] <navarone> Amaranth...I was commenting on it already occuring...:)
[04:05] <cafuego> Liket: grep CONFIG_LBD /boot/config-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 -> CONFIG_LBD=y; indeed. Hrm.
[04:05] <vid21> Does anyone know what would happen if I tried to install Ubuntu from hard disk using Knoppix: bootfrom=/dev/hda2/ubuntu.iso
[04:05] <vid21> ?
[04:05] <henry> ey what does it mean that modules in the kernel are not available under a completely Free licence??? am I using pirate software??????????????????????
[04:06] <Liket> cafuego: last, i was able to create logical partitions (with cfdisk) totalling the full size of the disk (2.5 TB) but after that neither CFDISK not PARTED would recognize the disk anymore, so here I am in the ubuntu installer again, erasing the entire disk
[04:06] <Liket> cafuego: which is fine as it's a brand new system -- as long as i can get it to work, i'll be happy :)
[04:06] <navarone> henry> probably mean you have to dl software that is available but not open source
[04:06] <navarone> henry> like video driver
[04:07] <ttrygve> so anyway, gparted was mentioned ... anyone know of anything like that with LVM support?
[04:07] <kreatine> how can i change apt-get so that it will always go for sources online instead of on the cd?
[04:07] <henry> navarone ah ok, I dont get the code, but I dont have to pay for that software, am I right???
[04:07] <Weng> Where is Synaptic's repository list stored?
[04:08] <navarone> henry> no...you have to find what is missing and possibly get it on manufacturers site
[04:08] <kreatine> how can i change apt-get so that it will always go for sources online instead of on the cd?
[04:08] <P229> atheros chipset cards for wireless?
[04:08] <Zedugh> kreatine: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom line
[04:08] <ttrygve>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <navarone> henry> which modules affected?
[04:08] <kreatine> thanks guys
[04:08] <kreatine> very helpful :)
[04:08] <ttrygve> or go to Applications > Add Applications
[04:08] <Mabus06> how do I get the 2.6.12 kernel headers for ubuntu???
[04:08] <ttrygve> and edit the repositories there by selecting the cdrom one and deleting it
[04:09] <eric__> Hey...I'm a bit of an Ubuntu/linux newbie...
[04:09] <navarone> Mabus> should be in development main or universe
[04:09] <lightbright> anyone here use Gnomemeeting?
[04:09] <Mabus06> navarone, I have all my repos enabled but I can't find it
[04:09] <Mabus06> navarone, what do I search for in synaptic, or type in the command line?
[04:09] <eric__> Not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'm having a PCI graphics card issue.
[04:09] <mobus> how do I install the JRE?
[04:09] <henry> navarone I think u r asking which modules do i have installed: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386
[04:09] <navarone> Mabus> look in Synaptic but Section and look thru the Development sections
[04:09] <h2theizzo> Mabus06 apt-get install packagename
[04:10] <mobus> the ubuntuguide told me how but it was an old version
[04:10] <vego1> im having trouble installing
[04:10] <lightbright> mobus: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[04:10] <mobus> why aptitude may I ask?
[04:10] <mobus> and not apt?
[04:10] <vego1> when i ./configure it says that there is no c compiler in path
[04:10] <kreatine> by default is php installed as an apache module? or stand alone?
[04:10] <vego1> any help?
[04:10] <Mabus06> navarone, what do you mean look through the sections?
[04:10] <h2theizzo> vega make sure you have the gcc compiler installed
[04:10] <mobus> vegol sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:10] <ttrygve> vego: install g++
[04:11] <ttrygve> and gcc
[04:11] <Mabus06> navarone, I searched for headers and all the versions except 2.6.12 show up... which is the one I need
[04:11] <navarone> vego1? go to Synaptic adn dl "build essentials" that should sort it
[04:11] <SoulPropagation> rcn_lo.c:####: error: invalid lvalue in assignment
[04:11] <ttrygve> I think there's a bundle that includes those and several other packages
[04:11] <vego1> is that in synaptic?
[04:11] <ttrygve> yeah, build essentials, that's it
[04:11] <lightbright> mobus: some prefer aptitude as some say it keeps better records of dependencies etc if you ever want to remove something
[04:11] <sabrina_leslie> hi, when my computer boots up it waits for a network clock synchronization, even if I have the clock turned off, any ideas on why that happens?
[04:11] <navarone> vego1>yes...just do a search from Edit menu
[04:11] <sabrina_leslie> i.e. i mean clock synchronization off
[04:11] <lightbright> mobus: so I have heard anyway
[04:11] <vego1> what is the package again?
[04:11] <SoulPropagation> sabrina_leslie: just hit ctrl+c when you see the message
[04:11] <navarone> Mabus> what arch kernel you using? 686?
[04:11] <sabrina_leslie> it stays "waiting to connect to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" or somethin g
[04:11] <lightbright> mobus: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4  or sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 :)  your choice ;)
[04:12] <sabrina_leslie> soulpropagation: exactly I don't want to do that everytime! it's annoying
[04:12] <SoulPropagation> sabrina_leslie: edit your inittab then
[04:12] <sabrina_leslie> why doesn't it work by turning the clock synch off?
[04:12] <sabrina_leslie> in the GUI?
[04:12] <ttrygve> vego1: apt-get install build-essential
[04:12] <ttrygve> should do it
[04:12] <SoulPropagation> sabrina_leslie: ya
[04:12] <sabrina_leslie> soul: ubuntu should be user-friendly
[04:12] <h2theizzo> vego, -=snickers=- it everywhere
[04:12] <vego1> ok thanks guys
[04:12] <SoulPropagation> sabrina_leslie: ftmp it is
[04:13] <ttrygve> no problem vego
[04:13] <sabrina_leslie> what is ftmp ?
[04:13] <navarone> Mabus> when you open Synaptic go to lower left and click Sections...it will list packages according to category
[04:13] <SoulPropagation> for the most part
[04:13] <sabrina_leslie> well, what about the clock?
[04:13] <henry> if I try to install the source of the kernel, is not important if I have 2.6.12-9 or 2.6.12-12 ??????????????
[04:13] <lightbright> sabrina_leslie: I have the fix for that
[04:13] <sabrina_leslie> how do i "edit the initab"
[04:13] <sabrina_leslie> light: what is the fix?
[04:13] <navarone> vego1> build essentials
[04:13] <henry> sorry,  not 2.6.12-12 but  2.6.12-10
[04:13] <lightbright> sabrina_leslie: I have the fix for that!  you want to remove the synchronizing clock untuntu.org FAiled message?
[04:14] <sabrina_leslie> yes, i want it to boot automatically lightbright
[04:14] <Mabus06> navarone, I'm not sure what kernel I'm using...
[04:14] <tOpEzz> hello i need help here
[04:14] <lightbright> sabrina_leslie: then type this:  sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[04:14] <tOpEzz> my totem cannot work
[04:14] <lightbright> sabrina_leslie:  that will remove the failed message
[04:14] <tOpEzz> anybody can help me?
[04:15] <sabrina_leslie> light: THANKS
[04:15] <lightbright> tOpEzz: type this:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[04:15] <basti__> this might be a stupid question but when I view index.html on my webserver from my desktop, then I access that file as "athers" right?
[04:15] <sabrina_leslie> I did it
[04:15] <SoulPropagation> lightbright: wow, i was always too lazy to figure out how to do it, but thanks for tellin' meh! :P
[04:15] <sabrina_leslie> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purge (continuing)
[04:15] <sabrina_leslie>  Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/ntpdate ...
[04:15] <sabrina_leslie>    /etc/rcS.d/S51ntpdate
[04:15] <tOpEzz> owh
[04:15] <tOpEzz> okey
[04:15] <tOpEzz> i try
[04:15] <lightbright> tOpEzz: then your Totem will work :)
[04:15] <lightbright> SoulPropagation: cool ;)
[04:15] <sabrina_leslie> bye light gotta test it
[04:15] <lightbright> tOpEzz: after that installed type: gst-register-0.8
[04:15] <lightbright> sabrina_leslie: ok
[04:16] <ttrygve> tOpEzz: I haven't had much luck with totem either, but follow the instructions from the relevant portions of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:16] <lightbright> tOpEzz: you may also need w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:16] <ttrygve> and you should have much better multimedia support
[04:16] <siriuskr> can you open MS database files in open office base ?
[04:16] <tOpEzz> still cannot
[04:16] <lightbright> ttrygve: the command I gave makes it work
[04:16] <irvin> tOpEzz: you need totem-xine
[04:16] <lightbright> tOpEzz: did you install what I said?
[04:16] <lightbright> tOpEzz: type this:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[04:16] <ttrygve> sure, totem worked after I did that, but I never did get the totem plugins working in firefox
[04:17] <siriuskr> can you open MS database files in open office base ?
[04:17] <tOpEzz> wait
[04:17] <Corrupter> whats the best p2p program for Linux?
[04:17] <tOpEzz> Totem could not startup
[04:17] <irvin> siriuskr: if you mean MS Access database yes
[04:17] <sri> ftp?
[04:17] <tOpEzz> Resource busy or not available
[04:17] <ttrygve> when playing something locally, I've found I prefer xine.  I'm guessing mplayer will probably work best for in-browser media, but I don't know
[04:17] <lightbright> Corrupter: try Gtk-Gnutella
[04:18] <siriuskr> when i try to open it in base it lets me but doesnt let me see anything in it like its not working
[04:18] <Corrupter> what about DC++ or Limewire, they any good?
[04:18] <bimberi> lightbright: so you like gtk-gnutella? :)
[04:18] <thompa-A> hi
[04:18] <fletch33> hey quick ? i was just helping a friend set up ubu and he got a beboot strap eror twice and since he set up his partitions and hasnt gotten to setup grub he says windows finds zero partitions
[04:18] <Zedugh> t0pEzz, try gxine
[04:18] <Chinaman> yawn
[04:19] <thompa-A> why isnt windows partition auto mounted in ubuntu like some other distros?
[04:19] <Mabus06> how do I install kernel headers for 2.6.12?
[04:19] <Jon2> This may sound extremely stupid, but I downloaded the latest version of Firefox and Thunderbird and they won't run.  I followed the directions in the release notes, which were extract the archive and run firefox/thunder bird, but a command prompt comes up for a split second and then it does nothing.
[04:19] <fletch33> how can i help him or what is the boot strap error
[04:19] <Corrupter> are Limewire or DC++ good programs for Linux?
[04:19] <irvin> tOpEzz: you can also use mplayer
[04:19] <Mabus06> limewire is fine, Corrupter
[04:19] <tOpEzz> gxine
[04:19] <lightbright> bimberi:  yeah thanks :)
[04:19] <tOpEzz> yea irwin
[04:19] <Corrupter> what about DC++, never used it before
[04:19] <tOpEzz> i just finish download mplayer just now
[04:20] <lightbright> bimberi:  wish I knew about that before I dl limewire!  does it need Java too?>
[04:20] <tOpEzz> hehehe
[04:20] <tOpEzz> but still dunno how to install it
[04:20] <Corrupter> get automatix
[04:20] <dducko> !limewire
[04:20] <ubotu> [limewire]  first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[04:20] <bimberi> Mabus06: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:20] <fletch33> bimberi,  whats up
[04:20] <bimberi> lightbright: nope
[04:20] <irvin> tOpEzz: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:20] <tOpEzz> wait
[04:20] <bimberi> fletch33: nommuch :)
[04:20] <lightbright> Mabus06: why do you need kernel headers?  what is that? :P
[04:20] <fletch33> bimberi,  my buddy was setting up ubu and keeps getting a bot strap error
[04:21] <dducko> tOpEzz, How did you download mplayer?  (that was the way you should have did it) what irvin said
[04:21] <lightbright> kinetic: hello
[04:21] <bimberi> fletch33: yeah i saw that, dunno sorry
[04:21] <tOpEzz> Reading package lists... Done
[04:21] <fletch33> bimberi,  now he cant even start windows
[04:21] <dducko> lightbright, for compliling stuff, such as Nvidia drivers
[04:21] <Mabus06> no idea lightbright... I'm pretty blind here
[04:21] <tOpEzz> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:21] <tOpEzz> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[04:21] <kinetic> lightbright heloo
[04:21] <lightbright> dducko:  ah ok
[04:21] <dducko> ubotu tell tOpEzz about paste
[04:21] <dducko> ubotu tell tOpEzz about repos
[04:21] <lightbright> Mabus06:  ;P
[04:21] <tOpEzz> ?
[04:21] <Corrupter> ok, i highly disklike the face that gnutella shows your ip as you username...
[04:21] <fletch33> bimberi,  by the way i got that freenx client working fine but i cant get it working in the server end
[04:21] <tOpEzz> hhehhee
[04:22] <dducko> tOpEzz, you need to Enable the extra repos as the bot told you in those messges
[04:22] <ttrygve> siriuskr: I can't answer your question as I'm just looking at OO Base for the first time tonight, myself
[04:22] <fletch33> bimberi,  i cant win on this freenx thing
[04:22] <kinetic> is there a way to set up kde with my current ububtu install running gnome?
[04:22] <dducko> then tOpEzz you can install mplayer
[04:22] <irvin> guys, from which repo is mplayer again?
[04:22] <ttrygve> but if you find any good beginner docs for it, I'd appreciate a pointer =)
[04:22] <fletch33> bimberi,  it says freenx but it is costing me my sanity lol
[04:22] <dducko> Yeas kinetic apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:22] <Hobbsee> irvin: probably multiverse
[04:22] <bimberi> fletch33: :(
[04:23] <Hobbsee> kinetic: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <dducko> kinetic, sorry, kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <tOpEzz> ok
[04:23] <tOpEzz> wait
[04:23] <irvin> tOpEzz: just add main restricted universe multiverse on you /etc/apt/sources.list deb lines
[04:23] <irvin> tOpEzz: then sudo apt-get update
[04:23] <irvin> tOpEzz: then sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:23] <Chinaman> heya brownman
[04:23] <BrownMan> hi
[04:23] <Chinaman> tell us the problem
[04:24] <Chinaman> having trouble mounting, eh?
[04:24] <BrownMan> So I'm a first time user from Windows and I want to take my .mp3 songs from there to play on Ubuntu
[04:24] <BrownMan> and from what I understand I have to mount my NTFS filesystem from Windows
[04:24] <BrownMan> To read it
[04:24] <Sgeper> Are there any precompiled packages with KQEMU?
[04:24] <rajasun> t0pEzz: enable multiverse in your sources.list then run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[04:24] <bimberi> BrownMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:25] <Hobbsee> !tell BrownMan about mount
[04:25] <irvin> BrownMan : yes you need to mount it
[04:25] <kinetic> dducko, hobbsee: thank you both :)
[04:25] <zovirl> I have a process hanging on a disk problem ("media error (bad sector)")  How do I kill it?  Kill -9 doesn't work
[04:25] <Mabus06> OT: (23:22:03) Nick: how can I easily give directions to a windows computer noob in order for him to get his motherboard name and give it to me?
[04:25] <Hobbsee> kinetic: no problem
[04:25] <ttrygve> BrownMan: and after that, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:25] <irvin> Sgeper: sudo apt-cache search kqemu
[04:25] <irvin> ;-)
[04:26] <kinetic> hobbsee: after it finishes installing i can just select kde from my sessions thinger before i log in?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> yep
[04:26] <BrownMan> Great thanks
[04:26] <kinetic> gotta love that linux
[04:26] <BrownMan> I'm never going back to Windows
[04:27] <lightbright> BrownMan: me either
[04:27] <kinetic> i have a dual-boot
[04:27] <irvin> Sgeper: there's qemu on universe tho
[04:27] <navarone> Kinetic> yes, penguins are people too...just in evening wear
[04:27] <DShepherd> lol @ lightbright
[04:27] <Remmelas> I have a problem with libs in /usr/local/lib, my programs can't seem to see them there, is there an easy fix?
[04:27] <lightbright> rofl @ DShepherd
[04:27] <kinetic> navarone: lol
[04:27] <FFighter> Hello all
[04:27] <Chinaman> lightbright, i still have to use Windows for 3D modeling and CAD
[04:28] <kinetic> ffighter: hello
[04:28] <Chinaman> so i have no choice BUT to use windows
[04:28] <lightbright> Chinaman: yeah
[04:28] <kreatine> remmelas update ur linker
[04:28] <DShepherd> I use windows for gaming mostly
[04:28] <Chinaman> and it's so much simpler to play games in Windows
[04:28] <irvin> Chinaman: have you tried blender?
[04:28] <lightbright> Chinaman: use windows jyst for that and Linux for eveythging else :)
[04:28] <navarone> Chinman> I use it for Halo online and that's about it
[04:28] <Chinaman> yes i have irvin
[04:28] <kinetic> i use windows for games mostly
[04:28] <lightbright> Chinaman: irvin?
[04:28] <FFighter> Im a Windows XP and Web Developer, got interested on Open Source trough the efforts of the guys @ osflash.org
[04:28] <FFighter> Im downloading the ubuntu 5.01 DVD
[04:28] <Remmelas> kreatine, I was thinking about it, but, since ld.so.conf seems to be completely missing, i wasn't sure if i could just create it, or if there was some other way this was handled in ubuntu
[04:28] <lightbright> kinetic: get a xbox for games and uise Linux for everything else ;)
[04:28] <thompa> why doesnt ubuntu automount the windows partition? just curious
[04:28] <Chinaman> lightbright, was talking to person above ye
[04:29] <DShepherd> I cant wait till they start making games with better linux support
[04:29] <lightbright> Chinaman: ok :P
[04:29] <Hobbsee> thompa: often, it does, during the install
[04:29] <kreatine> thompa maybe its not stup to automount?
[04:29] <DShepherd> ps3 fan here!!
[04:29] <kinetic> ffighter isn't 5.10 the newest version?
[04:29] <Chinaman> irvin, i need Inventor 10, Autocad 2006 and 3ds max...
[04:29] <lightbright> lol @ DShepherd
[04:29] <Chinaman> standard formats for robotics team, gotta follow em
[04:29] <FFighter> oh yeah sorry kinetic, my mistake
[04:29] <FFighter> =P
[04:29] <Kerr> ugh. finally got  ubuntu to install, but had to use the us utf-8 locale as nothing else worked, and mess about with broken dependancies everywhere, and gnome only works in failsafe, and the screen is grainy ~.~ Is this all because i ordered my breezy cds before breezy released and got some kind of betamax  editon?
[04:29] <kinetic> lol "breezy badger"
[04:29] <Chinaman> lightbright: gaming on windows is much less of a hassle as well
[04:30] <thompa> well its not a big deal, i was just wondering why they decided against it.
[04:30] <Chinaman> no need for cedega
[04:30] <DShepherd> when the start making games more friendly with linux, people will have to pay me to work with windows :0
[04:30] <irvin> Chinaman: gfx aint my thing :-(
[04:30] <DShepherd> :)
[04:30] <kinetic> dshepard: ditto
[04:30] <thompa> either for simplicity, protection or avoid litigation
[04:30] <kreatine> Remmelas google ld.so.conf u'll get plenty of info to nibble on :)
[04:30] <Chinaman> irvin, gfx aren't many people's strong point
[04:30] <Chinaman> so fret not
[04:30] <FFighter> Im very excited about getting my hands real dirty and hack it! Never used any flaver of Linux/Unix seriously before
[04:30] <BrownMan> Where is the commandline?
[04:31] <Chinaman> Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[04:31] <kinetic> beat me to it
[04:31] <DShepherd> FFighter: welcome to this side of the world. The grass is greener on this side
[04:31] <Chinaman> haha
[04:31] <Remmelas> kreatine, appreciate it, like i said, i'm pretty comfortable creating it, just thought it odd that it was completely missing from my install, so didn't want to break some strange 'ubuntu-ism', i went ahead and created it, and updated, appreciate the info.
[04:31] <FFighter> Yeah DShepherd! I was just thinking this way some minutes ago!
[04:32] <DShepherd> BrownMan: gnome or kde?
[04:32] <FFighter> THE FREEDOM TO DO EVERYTHING the way you want and to share it
[04:32] <ajmitch_> Filbert: just how much are you planning to hack it? :)
[04:32] <FFighter> its a feeling I never had before but Im starting to feel this need now
[04:32] <Chinaman> DShepherd, he's using Gnome
[04:32] <ajmitch_> s/filbert/FFighter/
[04:32] <DShepherd> FFighter: that's so beautiful... I going to cry
[04:32] <Mabus06> OT:  how can I easily give directions to a windows computer noob in order for him to get his motherboard name and give it to me?
[04:32] <DShepherd> i;m*
[04:32] <FFighter> :D
[04:32] <lightbright> FFighter: seek not just liberty, seek also personal and inner freedom
[04:32] <kreatine> Remmelas ur guess is my guess :) i've been using ubuntu for 3 days dont know if they have a special linker scheme, i doubt it :)
[04:33] <Chinaman> mabus06, make him boot into windows and run CPU-Z
[04:33] <lightbright> FFighter: freedom from conformity
[04:33] <navarone> Mabus> or tell him to open box and peek inside...;)
[04:33] <DShepherd> lol @ lightbright. you a poet? :)
[04:33] <Chinaman> that too
[04:33] <kinetic> mabus06 : hes using windows??? if so have him try installing SANDRA
[04:33] <kreatine> Remmelas i doubt they would go as far as implementing a different scheme, no point :)
[04:33] <Remmelas> kreatine, hehe, i've been using it for about 3 weeks, came from linuxfromscratch to this... i guess if i break it it's a lot easier to back out than custom builds
[04:33] <BrownMan> uhhhhh
[04:33] <DShepherd> lightbright: *ubuntu turns men into poets*
[04:34] <BrownMan> can someone take a look at what my commandline means
[04:34] <Mabus06> without installing things, Chinaman, kinetic? Isn't there some basic thing in control panel or something?
[04:34] <Chinaman> kinetic: downloading CPU-Z is a lot faster
[04:34] <kreatine> Remmelas me 2 from lfs :)
[04:34] <FFighter> LOL
[04:34] <FFighter> :D
[04:34] <DShepherd> DShepherd: women too
[04:34] <lightbright> DShepherd: may I ask your age pls?
[04:34] <Chinaman> Mabus06, no
[04:34] <FFighter> ubuntu has a very beutiful philosophy
[04:34] <kinetic> chinaman: true i use both
[04:34] <DShepherd> lightbright: yes you may
[04:34] <lightbright> DShepherd: ok tell me
[04:34] <FFighter> that was the main thing that attracted me to this dist
[04:34] <Chinaman> Control Panel doesn't have anything that detects motherboards
[04:34] <germancito> Hello!!
[04:34] <Mabus06> you guys are shitting me...
[04:34] <kinetic> ?
[04:34] <lightbright> whats the guys name that started ubuntu again?
[04:35] <ajmitch_> Mabus06: excuse me?
[04:35] <navarone> Shuttleworth
[04:35] <ClayG> Some African Tribal Minister
[04:35] <ClayG> Yeah Ubuntu Shuttleworth
[04:35] <kreatine> why am i constantly getting this message ? [22:34]  *** kreatine: you need to be a channel operator to do that
[04:35] <Kerr> anyoe who cares: why was installing ubuntu like pulling teeth, did i offend it somehow? shouldn't it Just Work (TM)? Why is it still horribly broken?
[04:35] <kreatine> i'm not doing anything :)
[04:35] <bigr1951> how do u download and then install
[04:35] <DShepherd> lightbright: 2 decades and 2
[04:35] <lightbright> navarone: do you have an idea what is Shuttleworth's Spiritual beliefs?  is he a Christian or buddhist or ?
[04:35] <navarone> ClayG> It's the same guy who recently paid to go into space
[04:35] <lightbright> DShepherd: hmm I thought you were younger, a lot younger :P
[04:35] <ClayG> The Nsync kid?
[04:36] <FFighter> I plan to move all my work to Linux gradually (well, most of it) ... I think Linux kind of forces you to know things that can be really useful later.. Windows kind of hide it
[04:36] <j813> Hi guys
[04:36] <kinetic> Kerr: did you do the default install or an expert?
[04:36] <ClayG> but seriously I think I know who you speak off
[04:36] <ClayG> is he an old white guy with white hair?
[04:36] <DShepherd> lightbright: I thought you were a big thinker. think bigger!!
[04:36] <rajasun> kreatine: probably due to some scripts you have in your irc client
[04:36] <lightbright> ClayG: he is bold
[04:36] <navarone> lightbright> I'm not in touch with Mr. S's spiritual beliefs...but I'll try him on Astral Gaim (tm) :)
[04:36] <ClayG> bold?
[04:36] <lightbright> navarone:  thanks :)
[04:36] <j813> how can I enable mp3 here in 5.10?
[04:36] <ClayG> Bold as in ideas and motivated?
[04:36] <lightbright> ClayG: Bald
[04:36] <kreatine> ffighter not really, linux is point and click as well most of the time :)
[04:36] <ClayG> oh sorry
[04:36] <DShepherd> lightbright: now may I ask how much decades have you seen?
[04:37] <lightbright> ClayG: as in not much hair on top :P
[04:37] <Kerr> kinetic: expert, as i needed to manually partition; i'm installing alongside a corrupt etch/sid install.
[04:37] <lightbright> but planty in sides
[04:37] <Chinaman> j813:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:37] <kreatine> its at a point where you dont have to learn anything if you dont want to :)
[04:37] <lightbright> DShepherd: 4
[04:37] <j813> thanks China
[04:37] <ClayG> Well, give him my thanks, ubuntu is the only distro that I feel comfortable dumping doze for
[04:37] <thompa> is there a way to keep kde desktop icons from being broken in ubuntu desktop?
[04:37] <DShepherd> lightbright: kool... you are very mature
[04:37] <ClayG> even though , and I'd hate to say this here, the apps on doze seems to run faster
[04:37] <irvin> ClayG: www.markshuttleworth.com
[04:38] <lightbright> DShepherd: and wise :)
[04:38] <navarone> Clayg> except for small mouse issue...and eventually installing nvidia drivers...my install was painless
[04:38] <lightbright> DShepherd: want to read my story?
[04:38] <kinetic> Kerr: im not familiar with etch/sid (kinda n00b myself)
[04:38] <ClayG> Oh my install was flawless
[04:38] <bigr1951> is there a place i can get help in just the basics of ubuntu
[04:38] <ClayG> but on another box it wasn't
[04:38] <thompa> i noticed as soon as i installed kubuntu-desktop that thre is now a trash icon in gnome
[04:38] <ClayG> but the apt-get is something that is a godsend
[04:38] <ClayG> for me at least
[04:38] <ttrygve> like what, bigr1951?
[04:38] <lightbright> DShepherd: http://www.eternaljoy.pfwh.net/  <--- And Click on ABOUT for my story :)
[04:38] <navarone> thompa> I think there always was a trash icon in gnome
[04:38] <ttrygve> there's a "Getting Started" guide
[04:38] <ClayG> I have had to compile a package or two, and I'm able but wouldnt bet I could do it 10 times and 10 times have no hitches
[04:39] <FFighter> I also work with .NET framework... Is mono stable enough to offer a quality fw as .NET is?
[04:39] <Kerr> kinetic: debian, my debian install broke; a bad crash ate up some core libs, i tried to repair it but failed; had an ubuntu cd handy.
[04:39] <ClayG> but apt-get is awsome, the support is great
[04:39] <kreatine> one problem i've noticed in GNOME and maybe someone can answer, if you connect to a samba server you get a link to it on your desktop and thre is no way to freakin remove that link!@!
[04:39] <thompa> navarone: oh, well now the icon is missing
[04:39] <ClayG> irc included!
[04:39] <FFighter> Got into Eclipse and Java too! Im expading my mind :)
[04:39] <ClayG> Not alot of those "Google it" or "man it"'ers
[04:39] <lightbright> ClayG: try aptitude too
[04:39] <tOpEzz> still cannot
[04:39] <navarone> thompa> are you in gnome enviro now or boot into kde?
[04:39] <tOpEzz> uwaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:39] <bigr1951> I am not a computer person but i downloaded things but dont know what to do to install as in windows
[04:39] <thompa> navarone: obviously i cant have icons in the 2 different desktops
[04:39] <ClayG> people that are so quick to tell you to google it, but when you google it you find a bunch of forums results of people asking questions and others saying to google it
[04:39] <ClayG> lol
[04:39] <thompa> im in gnome
[04:40] <ClayG> why not answer it and create another result for the next guy that does google it
[04:40] <DShepherd> lightbright: wow.. you wrote all that?
[04:40] <FFighter> LOL ClayG
[04:40] <kinetic> Could someone more weatherinf w/ linux help Kerr?
[04:40] <thompa> navarone: if i create a launcher in gnome what happens in kde desktop?
[04:40] <lightbright> DShepherd: indeed I did :)
[04:40] <ClayG> and I may be slow but the syntax in the man pages aren't the easiest to understand
[04:40] <thompa> and visa versa
[04:40] <DShepherd> k
[04:40] <kinetic> weathered*
[04:40] <navarone> thompa> I dunno...I am pure gnome
[04:40] <DShepherd> lightbright: kool
[04:40] <lightbright> DShepherd: and I wrote my story to share
[04:40] <FFighter> thank you for the warm welcome!
[04:40] <ClayG> DOS's /? seemed alot easier and the type of language I understand
[04:40] <DShepherd> lightbright: job well done
[04:40] <lightbright> DShepherd: my story has appeared in magazine
[04:40] <FFighter> I currently downloading the DVD trough BitTOrrent
[04:40] <lightbright> DShepherd: thank you :)
[04:41] <DShepherd> lightbright: sweet
[04:41] <zdennis> hey all...i am having no luck with the latest linux-image-kernel-2.6.12-10-k7
[04:41] <ClayG> but I love how in the unice's cli you can multitask
[04:41] <thompa> navarone: i think there is a way to create 2 different desktop initiate folders
[04:41] <lightbright> DShepherd: do you share some views?
[04:41] <ClayG> and I heard that that has been possible for quite some time
[04:41] <odin> I just installed ubuntu..  I don't remember setup asking me for a root password..  Is it defaulted?
[04:41] <holycow> FFighter, there are a LOT of frameworks out there
[04:41] <zdennis> i get a kernel panic when rebooting....but all of my other kernels work fine
[04:41] <FFighter> probally tomorrow I will be installing it ...
[04:41] <ClayG> in dos the program had to allow it
[04:41] <zdennis> anyone else seen issues with the latest 2.6.12-10 update?
[04:41] <holycow> .net is a drop in the bucket ... mostly in it not really being a framwork
[04:41] <DShepherd> lightbright: *reading your story* will talk to you soon
[04:41] <ClayG> I think the first one that I saw to allow you to drop to dos was telemate a pretty cool modem software
[04:41] <holycow> but a way to sandbox apps/framworks
[04:41] <kinetic> All : have a good night and gl all
[04:41] <ttrygve> well, bigr1951, I'm not sure what to tell you without more specific questions, but this might be a good place to start: http://help.ubuntu.com/
[04:41] <lightbright> DShepherd:  ok :)
[04:41] <kinetic> bye
[04:41] <navarone> thompa> I am certain that the desktops keep their configs and such seperate by design
[04:41] <holycow> FFighter, google is your friend and welcome to linux :)
[04:41] <FFighter> holycow: Could you point me to good developer sites about Linux Development and related stuff?
[04:42] <ClayG> or maybe it was qmodem, either way mulitasking pre-windows days was few and far in between
[04:42] <holycow> FFighter, google.com
[04:42] <holycow> seriously
[04:42] <ClayG> Hahah
[04:42] <FFighter> or recommend some books?
[04:42] <holycow> its such a big topic i cannto begin to fathom where you would start
[04:42] <snausages> lightbright, if I wanna do a test burn in l3b, do I select the "Simulate" checkbox?
[04:42] <FFighter> was hoping for that answer
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok heres what i found on my usb problem    it works on the primary account (my flash drive) but not my own account though my account is also an admin account
[04:42] <snausages> k3b*
[04:42] <FFighter> :D
[04:42] <holycow> start with researching mono, and go from there
[04:42] <navarone> FFighter> Linux Desk Reference by Scot Hawkings
[04:42] <FFighter> Im going to google for it
[04:42] <thompa> navarone:  well changing one will give you pictureless icons on the other thats for sure
[04:42] <holycow> FFighter, well at first you will be overwhelmed by choice
[04:43] <Comrade_Vladimir> im on my account now
[04:43] <thompa> navarone:  no big deal though
[04:43] <holycow> this isn't microsoft, meaning there are many many ways to do many  many things
[04:43] <holycow> not just the ms way
[04:43] <FFighter> Is mono comparable to Java on cross-platform habilities?
[04:43] <tdwyer> Got a question.  The Evolution email program keeps crashing on start up
[04:43] <holycow> secondly, what are you building, what do you need
[04:43] <tdwyer> any one know why?
[04:43] <zdennis> FFighter, no
[04:43] <holycow> each type of problem requires a different toolset
[04:43] <bigr1951> how do u get a one-on-one chat
[04:43] <FFighter> yeah... makes sense, with freedom comes more responsabiliti and possibilities
[04:44] <holycow> lastly, my bias is to NEVER EVER put a windows box on the net, even behind a linux/bsd box
[04:44] <FFighter> do you really think so holycow?
[04:44] <holycow> develop on open servers, deliver to any client is the general approach i take, but that really is only germaine to my problem set
[04:44] <FFighter> I still like Windows for its DirectX framework.. I like to write games sometimes as a hobby
[04:44] <FFighter> Gotta start using BlitzMax
[04:45] <holycow> FFighter, i work mostly on corporate stuff no games so that problem set nicely dices it self into client/server architectures
[04:45] <Comrade_Vladimir> anyone  usb know it all here?
[04:45] <navarone> Bigrl951> are you using xchat?
[04:45] <holycow> games are different
[04:45] <holycow> i.e. my approach really is only meant for me
[04:45] <bigr1951> yes
[04:45] <holycow> poke around see what you like its a big world :)
[04:46] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok heres what i found on my usb problem    it works on the primary account (my flash drive) but not my own account though my account is also an admin account
[04:46] <holycow> FFighter, in general from people that dev games, game dev is a wee bit easier on win, but you loose portability
[04:46] <holycow> on linux its a wee bit harder but you generally gain portability if you use the right tools
[04:46] <FFighter> yeah... I think all these years ONLY using Windows boxes have blinded me somehow
[04:46] <holycow> but thats a gross oversimplification
[04:46] <DShepherd> lightbright: wow.. you have been thru alot..
[04:47] <FFighter> thanks for the attention holycow
[04:47] <FFighter> Are you always around here?
[04:47] <holycow> FFighter, they have, five it time, no one here really preaches linux for everything, it just seems that way because you haveto shout hard to get heard over top of ms lies
[04:47] <holycow> theres a place for everything
[04:47] <holycow> give it time i mean
[04:48] <DShepherd> lightbright: very inspiring story...
[04:48] <FFighter> Now Im really feeling the real meaning of the Open Source philosophy
[04:48] <morphix> is there a openssl dev package?
[04:49] <bpasdar> Anyone having problems with evolution on Breezy?
[04:49] <lightbright> DShepherd: thank you kindly
[04:49] <lightbright> bpasdar: it works fine with me
[04:49] <DShepherd> lightbright: sure... no need to thank me though
[04:49] <holycow> FFighter :) its about freedom and sharing, the worth of it will become self evident after you have done enough research and tooled around a bit
[04:49] <lightbright> DShepherd: ok
[04:49] <holycow> FFighter, no one has to actually sell it, all anyone really needs to say is try it and decide for your self
[04:49] <DShepherd> lightbright: so what have you been doing with your life now?
[04:49] <bpasdar> lightbright: ever since the last apt-get update I cant keep it up for more than two minutes without crashing
[04:50] <lightbright> bpasdar: what update?
[04:50] <holycow> lightbright, what story? tha site looks like jesus propaganda
[04:50] <lightbright> DShepherd:  im moving into full time ministry and evangelism
[04:51] <lightbright> sorry foilks off topic
[04:51] <FFighter> I had a different concept about it all... it was when I installed Eclipse to start doing Open Source Flash development with MTASC (do you know it?) that I started change my ideas about it
[04:51] <navarone> holycow> I can see linux being used for all kinds of things...but I think it would really shine as a hub for your music and other household entertainment needs. Even my crappy Kinyo speakers sound great. I can imagine what surround sound could do...<drool>
[04:51] <unique311> hello
[04:51] <FFighter> Eclipse is damn good dev enviroment
[04:51] <DShepherd> lightbright: ok kool
[04:51] <yannz> Hello, does ubuntu have a repository in which quakeforge can be found? :)
[04:51] <FFighter> did not know it was so cool
[04:51] <bpasdar> lightbright: I believe the standard package updates available as of this morning.
[04:51] <lightbright> holycow: Truth is never dependent upon the consensus of opinion :)
[04:51] <holycow> mtasc? never heard of it but i shall be googling it :)
[04:51] <germancito> hello unique311
[04:51] <lightbright> holycow: and that's your personal opinion, yet it doesn't mean your opinion is correct or true. :)
[04:51] <FFighter> www.mtasc.org
[04:51] <holycow> lightbright, likewise
[04:51] <lightbright> bpasdar: ah ok
[04:51] <FFighter> Its a Open Source ActionScript2 Compiler
[04:51] <lightbright> holycow:  indeed works for me also
[04:52] <holycow> navarone, its a rapidly morphing environment
[04:52] <lightbright> holycow: it works for me, maybe not for you
[04:52] <holycow> navarone, maybe a year ago i would of agreed but as of gnome 2.10 wow
[04:52] <holycow> navarone, i am starting to deploy it as a desktop in some specific demographics
[04:52] <unique311> i think this issue is off topic, but i am running ubuntu on one of my machines, so here we go, i have 2 machines on a router, but i can't ping neither one from each other..
[04:52] <bpasdar> lightbright: I had similar probs with kmail.  Alas I seem to be the only one.  Everything works PURRRFECT for everyone else :(
[04:52] <holycow> i have a bunch of pilots out there infact ....
[04:52] <lightbright> bpasdar: yeah works perfect for me
[04:52] <unique311> how do i set it up so that i can ping the machines from each other.
[04:53] <lightbright> bpasdar: maybe user error?
[04:53] <navarone> holycow> I think Linux has already made inroads...from web servers to now being used in embeded devices and kiosk type businesses
[04:53] <bpasdar> lightbright: Breezy?
[04:53] <lightbright> bpasdar: I use breezy yes from scratch
[04:53] <holycow> navarone, well webservers is not a good example
[04:53] <FFighter> is anyone here, besides me, using Windows right now?
[04:53] <holycow> its windows that is making inroads there
[04:53] <DShepherd> FFighter: I am using windows now
[04:53] <holycow> linux has always owned the net along with bsd
[04:53] <Chinaman> FFighter, me
[04:53] <bpasdar> lightbright: maybe?  Layer 8 -- I'll have to fire myself and hire a new me :)
[04:53] <morphix> FFighter, i am.. i'm multitasking winxp + ubuntu
[04:53] <DShepherd> FFighter: I getting paid to use it
[04:53] <lightbright> bpasdar:  :)
[04:53] <holycow> after about 92 anyway i would say
[04:54] <thompa> i went through the steps to mount my windows partition,  but why dows hda1 show only windows files?
[04:54] <bigr1951> would anyone chat with me one on one for the basics
[04:54] <j813> where can change my NVidia video card settings, or change Video card drivers?
[04:54] <navarone> holycow> I meant from being the de facto web server software to diversification as needs change and markets shift
[04:54] <holycow> the servers are easy, the desktop is hard because the problem set is not neatly defined
[04:54] <bpasdar> lightbright: THANK YOU for trying!
[04:54] <typewriter> im using KDE... my video card on 24bit color cant run higher than 800x600.. but on 16bit it can... i rather run 16bit then... how can i run it on 16bit and force it to use the highest resolution possible?
[04:54] <holycow> navarone, ah *nod*
[04:54] <lightbright> bpasdar: sorry couldnt help
[04:54] <thompa> in file system: media i have an empty windows folder also
[04:54] <DShepherd> thompa: what do you mean only windows files?
[04:55] <SoulPropagation> how do i get compositing to start with X in breezy?
[04:55] <FFighter> What partition would be common to both WIndows and Linux, I mean, if I would create one to share files beetwen the 2 OS
[04:55] <FFighter> partition format
[04:55] <SoulPropagation> FFighter: fat32
[04:55] <SoulPropagation> FFighter: aka vfat
[04:55] <thompa> DShepherd: i guess hda1 is only windows partition?
[04:55] <navarone> FFighter...fat 32 can both read and write t
[04:56] <SoulPropagation> navarone: lil slow there eh? ;)
[04:56] <navarone> Soul> getting old...
[04:56] <Chinaman> navarone, that's what i'm using for storing stuff on the 20GB I have
[04:56] <DShepherd> thompa: ok.. well, do you have a question?
[04:56] <thompa> DShepherd: but then in media i have hda1 folder and an empty windows folder
[04:56] <thompa> DShepherd:  whats the windows folder for and how can i delete it?
[04:57] <FFighter> nice to meet you all
[04:57] <FFighter> leaving now
[04:57] <FFighter> thanks for the warm reception
[04:57] <DShepherd> thompa: well its not ther by default so you must have created it... when you were doing the steps
[04:57] <SoulPropagation> how do i get compositing to start with X in breezy? setting it to priority 0 doesn't do it
[04:57] <snausages> lightbright, i just wanted to let you know, i just burned an iso successfully, no errors. it may have been the cd-rs
[04:58] <morphix> is there a openssl dev package?
[04:58] <navarone> Chinaman> I installed ubuntu after installing new drive. I left enough free space for ubuntu to use and have two ntfs Partions (unused yet) a fat32 partiton on new drive and another smaller fat 32 on primary drive with win2k which I use for transfer of files to windows if I dl music in linux.
[04:58] <thompa> DShepherd: hmm, no i created media/hda1
[04:58] <DShepherd> thompa: it is not neccessary and can be deleted...sudo rmdir <foldername>
[04:58] <thompa> STRANGE
[04:58] <thompa> ok thanks
[04:59] <holycow> FFighter, see ya around
[04:59] <Chinaman> navarone: i use the fat32 drive to store CD images, movies, photos/pictures and music
[04:59] <Chinaman> i'm getting a new comp soon that's gonna be 20GB Linux and 120GB Windows with 20GB left over for transferring stuff between the two OSes
[05:00] <Spacious> why use Linux over Windows?
[05:00] <morphix> just use linux totally :P
[05:00] <Chinaman> for looking at pr0n!
[05:00] <navarone> China> I had prob with linux p2p not saving files in designated folder on fat32. Turned out to be a permission prob... could not write to Music folder as I was not creator/owner. So I made a folder in same drive while in ubuntu and transfer files to that and then retransfer to final folder when in windows
[05:00] <DShepherd> thompa: if you want to recreate it just sudo mkdir <foldername>
[05:01] <mark__> is ubuntu supposed to automatically mount external usb hard drives?
[05:01] <Chinaman> actually, it's more for downloading and keeping CPU usage minimum
[05:01] <Spacious> morphix, but doesnt linux have a lot of multimedia issues, compatiblity and speed problems?
[05:01] <Spacious> im using windows
[05:01] <morphix> Spacious, not that i know of lopl
[05:01] <morphix> lol*
[05:01] <thompa> DShepherd:  i removed it, its fine, thanks
[05:01] <morphix> only prob atm is gaming
[05:01] <Chinaman> navarone: i haven't tried saving P2P stuff to a FAT32 from Ubuntu yet
[05:01] <morphix> cedega fixes that but not ALL games work.
[05:01] <Spacious> morphix, so you're using ubuntu
[05:01] <Chinaman> but...i can always try
[05:01] <Chinaman> morphix: that's why i still have windows
[05:02] <Chinaman> gotta get my dose of speed...the need for speed
[05:02] <Chinaman> most wanted of course
[05:02] <Chinaman> heh
[05:02] <DShepherd> Spacious: have you ever used a linux distro?
[05:02] <navarone> China> if the folders on the fat32 partion have a little padlock on them then you acn look but not write to them
[05:02] <DShepherd> thompa: ok kool have fun
[05:02] <morphix> Spacious, i have winxp corp on this pc.. and i have another pc with ubuntu on it.
[05:02] <Spacious> DShepherd, ive used ubuntu and slackware before along with xandros...but i felt that i was missing something
[05:02] <Spacious> morphix, is there any need to additionally secure a linux box?
[05:02] <Chinaman> navarone, i wrote 4 CD images to the FAT32 without probs
[05:02] <Spacious> morphix, like are there any settings that you can tweak like in windows
[05:03] <Spacious> to make it more secure
[05:03] <Chinaman> Spacious: security? what's that?
[05:03] <morphix> windows = unsecured from the start
[05:03] <morphix> linux = everything secured/closed up from start.
[05:03] <DShepherd> morphix: he said more secure..so its relative to the start
[05:03] <Spacious> morphix, what about if im running a server?  what do i need to do to secure linux?
[05:03] <Chinaman> indeed it is
[05:03] <Spacious> morphix, i see all these guides on the internet about linux antivirus and how to secure linux, etc
[05:03] <Chinaman> nesseus infection scanning stuff and then firestarter firewall
[05:03] <Chinaman> don't know what else you can get
[05:04] <holycow> Spacious, that is a big question
[05:04] <Chinaman> pretty much, you can't get killed when you're in linux
[05:04] <holycow> the general answer is that you need a lot of expertice to properly lock down any web server
[05:04] <dducko> Antivirus is mostly for scannin windows files
[05:04] <Spacious> Chinaman, i thought that the reason linux has virtually no viruses was because MS has like all the market$hare
[05:04] <Spacious> bimberi, i am
[05:04] <Chinaman> there's been 3 viruses/worms/junk that has EVER existed
[05:04] <Chinaman> Spacious: another reason is that it's a lot harder to write for LInux
[05:04] <B_166-ER-X> 3 virus for Nux, millions for Win
[05:04] <B_166-ER-X> wow
[05:04] <sri> Chinaman: dude, linux can be hacked.
[05:05] <Chinaman> yes it can be
[05:05] <holycow> Spacious, no, it has all the viruses primarily because their users at taught that any moron can be an administrator ... and they all believe that running as root is acceptable
[05:05] <B_166-ER-X> Virus on windoze, are like replicators in SG1
[05:05] <Chinaman> holycow, true
[05:05] <DShepherd> sri: yes it can, but not very easy though
[05:05] <sri> getting someone to run rm -rf $HOME will be just as annoying as getting a virus :)
[05:05] <Chinaman> lol
[05:05] <Spacious> holycow, so there is no way to further secure linux....like if i have a job as a linux sysadmin
[05:05] <Spacious> or something
[05:06] <holycow> sri, at least they wont end up deleting all of c: that way
[05:06] <sri> no, but it's still leaves them without their data
[05:06] <sri> and thats probably just as emotionally devestating as having their own machine screwed.
[05:06] <DShepherd> sri: and you have admin privileges to run such a command
[05:06] <sri> besides, it's likelye veryone will use the same account
[05:06] <ubuntu> #cebu
[05:06] <sri> I don't need admin privs to run rm -rf /home/sri
[05:06] <holycow> Spacious, oh there is, i'm simply trying to frame the question for you, security in general is a field of study and expertice all on it's own.  in order to properly research security measures for your application you need to approach it with the big picture in mind
[05:07] <Chinaman> Spacious, you can always set up a Clam AntiVirus Server
[05:07] <Chinaman> or use the OpenSource AV program
[05:07] <DShepherd> sri: externally yes, internally no..
[05:07] <holycow> with that being said, you can start with some of the basics that you can google up, particularly the debian security documentation if you are running debianized servers
[05:07] <holycow> from there some form of certification would be recommended, at least by me
[05:07] <Spacious> Chinaman, im just new to linux and am afraid that i will not be able to learn fast enough....i assumed that linux was secure by default...n stuff.  im only 15 so i dont know too much...i spent nearly all my time on windows
[05:07] <SoulPropagation> sri: chmod 0744 /bin/rm ;)
[05:07] <DShepherd> sri: but in your example.. that;s not a virus... that just being silly
[05:08] <Chinaman> and Spacious, there's nothing better than curiosity
[05:08] <Chinaman> i started using Ubuntu this year
[05:08] <holycow> indeed
[05:08] <Chinaman> probably about 3 months ago
[05:08] <Chinaman> it's been great
[05:08] <Chinaman> no viruses, no spyware
[05:08] <Liket> oh holy fucking shit!!
[05:08] <Liket> liket@server:~$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda
[05:08] <navarone> Only bout a month for me
[05:08] <Liket>  Timing buffered disk reads:  1224 MB in  3.00 seconds = 407.79 MB/sec
[05:08] <Ophiocus> Spacious, give it a shot, dual boot ubuntu in your win machine
[05:08] <Liket> this HAS to be some kind of a record :)
[05:08] <holycow> Chinaman, nice, what is your previous experience? what do you use your desktop for?
[05:08] <DShepherd> Spacious: dont worry, Linux is not a black box, like some OSes I know..
[05:08] <Spacious> DShepherd, black box?
[05:09] <Chinaman> holycow: i typically used windows...tried mandrake a bit and didn't like it
[05:09] <DShepherd> lol @ Spacious
[05:09] <Chinaman> i still use a lot of windows for CAD and 3D modeling
[05:09] <holycow> Chinaman, mandrake has always been bugy *nod*
[05:09] <Chinaman> plus the occasional LAN
[05:09] <holycow> ah indeed, cool
[05:09] <Chinaman> or online halo game
[05:09] <holycow> your a cad fella? not like the maya/xsi type of stuff?
[05:09] <morphix> my only reason i wont go fully over to linux.. is the gaming side of things.
[05:10] <morphix> i always game.
[05:10] <Chinaman> holycow, i work with 3ds max, Inventor and Autocad
[05:10] <DShepherd> Spacious: black box = something that works.. but  you dont know how it works
[05:10] <holycow> Chinaman, neat
[05:10] <DShepherd> Spacious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box <-- read
[05:10] <Spacious> DShepherd, yeah i really want to learn the internals of linux...like the back of my hand
[05:10] <holycow> Chinaman, alias bought maya, perhaps they will one day consider max and cad on linux
[05:10] <Chinaman> er...
[05:10] <morphix> Alias Wavefront Maya
[05:10] <Chinaman> Autodesk bought Alias...which owned Maya
[05:10] <morphix> :)
[05:11] <DShepherd> Spacious: how well do you know the back of your hand :)?
[05:11] <drcode> any one know what is udev?
[05:11] <Chinaman> holycow: hopefully...but 3ds max still requires D3D to run
[05:12] <drcode> I have strange thing that the route add I put disapper after 10 min
[05:12] <holycow> oh i forgot
[05:12] <drcode> any idea?
[05:12] <holycow> i havent run that since 2.5
[05:12] <drcode> I use breezy
[05:12] <holycow> Chinaman, oh actually it doesn't matter
[05:12] <holycow> so does xsi
[05:12] <Spacious> DShepherd, pretty damn well
[05:12] <Chinaman> o.0
[05:12] <morphix> d3d can me wrapped into linux api's :)
[05:12] <holycow> there is a company that can port all of that and make it work via emulation libraries
[05:12] <holycow> i forget the name, but softimage did it
[05:13] <Chinaman> i tried winex on 3ds max, autocad and inventor...
[05:13] <Chinaman> nothing worked
[05:13] <DShepherd> Spacious: well your on your way then. What do you use your windows machine for?
[05:13] <holycow> believe it or not, they actually porte msie as well for xsi, as it uses that internally for some shit
[05:13] <Ophiocus> <= sees a new wrinkle on the back of his hand and ponders "one new every day"
[05:13] <Spacious> DShepherd, general stuff, but i thought i was generally secure under windows...i followed the NSAs advice
[05:13] <DShepherd> Ophiocus: lol
[05:13] <Spacious> DShepherd, web browsing, email, lol
[05:13] <morphix> microshaft uses linux to compile their windows systems.. how ironic
[05:13] <Corrupter> what is evolution data server?
[05:13] <holycow> Chinaman, thats a wee bit different, this company does app specific ports, but anyways its a moot point.  al i'm saying is that if softimage can so can max, both have shitty windows based architecture
[05:13] <Chinaman> Spacious...if you don't play games or do crazy stuff with 3D, just use Linux
[05:13] <kevogod_> morphix, Where did you hear this?
[05:14] <eMBee> good evening
[05:14] <SoulPropagation> morphix: that's probably a load of crap
[05:14] <Chinaman> lol holycow
[05:14] <navarone> Spacious> I wouls use ubuntu for online activities that do not require windows and use windows for games and such
[05:14] <Ophiocus> Spacious, tried firefox?
[05:14] <SoulPropagation> of course, windows is a descendent of unix
[05:14] <Chinaman> half the people don't need Windows....
[05:14] <Chinaman> they can go use Linux and it won't make a difference
[05:14] <holycow> actually you can do 3d in linux, blender is more powerfull than most hobbyists can handle
[05:14] <DShepherd> Spacious: ok.. well try a dual boot, trust me will learn alot
[05:15] <Chinaman> holycow, not used to how blender starts out with 1 viewport
[05:15] <holycow> if your not a 3d hobbyist paying 150$ for a windows licence is nothing in comparison to 3d licencing
[05:15] <Spacious> Ophiocus, yeah its nice
[05:15] <holycow> Chinaman, you can change that
[05:15] <Chinaman> i know
[05:15] <Spacious> DShepherd, ok
[05:15] <DShepherd> Spacious: *you will learn alot
[05:15] <Chinaman> but the huge toolbars...scare me
[05:15] <navarone> Spacious> if you want to dual boot you can install grub in floppy and leave mbr alone... taht is what i did. So you need to use floppy to get to linux and no-one else may know that another os resides in the recessses of the drive
[05:16] <Chinaman> i'd much rather have the layout 3ds max and Autocad have
[05:16] <holycow> Chinaman, *nod* ui is very different indeed
[05:16] <eMBee> anyone have an idea what could cause that?
[05:16] <holycow> photoshop users simple cannot unlearn ps i have discovered as well
[05:16] <Chinaman> lol
[05:16] <DShepherd> navarone: kool
[05:16] <Ophiocus> navarone, s got a point, not even windows will notice
[05:16] <holycow> *shrug* whatever suits ones needs tho :)
[05:16] <DShepherd> I need to try that
[05:16] <Corrupter> anybody know what evolution data server is? and do i need it?
[05:16] <Chinaman> I use Gimp on Windows
[05:17] <Chinaman> haha
[05:17] <holycow>  Corrupter you need it for evolution
[05:17] <Corrupter> and if i don't use evolution?
[05:17] <holycow> evolution uses it to send/recieve/organize data
[05:17] <Chinaman> even though i do have a bootleg PSCS2 somewhere in the room....
[05:17] <DShepherd> Chinaman: gimp on windows has probs
[05:17] <holycow> Corrupter, *hmmm* i don't think you need it then, but something in the back of my head says something uses it
[05:17] <Chinaman> Dshepherd, I haven't tried making texture maps with it yet
[05:17] <Chinaman> so dn't really know
[05:17] <holycow> i would say do apt-get revmoe -s appname and see what it all tries to uninstall
[05:17] <holycow> -s means simulate
[05:17] <Chinaman> but it did already crash on me once...
[05:18] <holycow> if its nuffin, remove it
[05:18] <Chinaman> probably because of windows instability
[05:18] <Chinaman> lol
[05:18] <Corrupter> well it's taking up 63 MB of system RAM, so i want it dead
[05:18] <slew> hi, is there any way that linux will display a .com file?
[05:18] <Corrupter> if i remove it, will anything crash?
[05:18] <DShepherd> Chinaman: crashes on me alot.. maybe :)
[05:18] <Chinaman> lol
[05:18] <holycow> slew, what is a .com file?
[05:18] <Chinaman> that's what i was gonna ask
[05:18] <Corrupter> a windows command file
[05:18] <Chinaman> o.0
[05:18] <Corrupter> command.com
[05:18] <slew> holycow, its an old school [dos era]  program
[05:18] <holycow> so its what? like a batch file? text file?
[05:19] <Corrupter> none of you ever used DOS???
[05:19] <Chinaman> try opening it with nano?
[05:19] <slew> no, not command.com
[05:19] <Corrupter> i was using an example
[05:19] <slew> ahh
[05:19] <navarone> Corrupter> that memory usage may only be virtual memory
[05:19] <Chinaman> corrupter, i wasn't old enough to know what DOS was XD
[05:19] <holycow> sounds like a text file yeah try nano or gedit
[05:19] <slew> cause i think command.com would die under linux =] 
[05:19] <Corrupter> i was born when people were using DOS, but i still KNOW about it
[05:19] <slew> nano is a text editor, right?
[05:19] <holycow> otherwise you will either need an editor that supports it (google is your friend) or a hex editor :)
[05:19] <Chinaman> yep
[05:19] <Chinaman> commandline based
[05:19] <slew> i was using dos when you were in dipers =] 
[05:20] <Chinaman> lol
[05:20] <Corrupter> well, virtual memory and RAM are all the same, less space = faster progress
[05:20] <slew> Chinaman, then nano wont work. thanks though. =]  maybe just use wine.
[05:20] <DShepherd> slew:lol
[05:20] <ashwani> aimaz hi
[05:20] <ashwani> pepsil HI
[05:20] <Chinaman> slew, you could try using gedit
[05:20] <ashwani> pepsil : can you help me using CUPS
[05:20] <slew> Chinaman, is gedit a text editor?
[05:20] <germancito> hello
[05:21] <holycow> sledge__, yes, under apps/accessories
[05:21] <DShepherd> slew yes
[05:21] <Chinaman> slew, yes it is
[05:21] <holycow> i mean slew, oh hell
[05:21] <holycow> heh
[05:21] <Chinaman> Applications -> Accesories -> Text Editor
[05:21] <slew> again, a text editor is not what i need. this is an executable file, made around 1996
[05:21] <germancito> please, anyone can tell me were i can fin the file that contains the configuration the applications menu in Gnome??
[05:21] <Chinaman> oh
[05:21] <SoulPropagation> slew: hexedit
[05:21] <slew> =] 
[05:22] <Chinaman> i'm off guys
[05:22] <Chinaman> goodnight
[05:22] <holycow> slew, so you want to execute it?
[05:22] <slew> thanks Chinaman have a good holiday
[05:22] <holycow> then you have only a couple of options?
[05:22] <Chinaman> thanksgiving day tomorrow...gotta eat some food
[05:22] <slew> holycow, yeah, kinda
[05:22] <Chinaman> wee
[05:22] <holycow> run windows under vmware
[05:22] <burner> anyone know how to fix it so that the "winkey" can be a modifier?  right now if I try to use it as a keyboard shortcut, it won't let me press another key with it
[05:22] <holycow> you tried wine
[05:22] <slew> about to try wine now
[05:22] <holycow> you can try running windows under winforlin which is like vmware
[05:22] <holycow> slew, there just may be a dos emulator out there
[05:23] <j813> guys where can i change my monitor & video card settigns? here in 5.10 :)
[05:23] <sri> winforlin is not free right?
[05:23] <holycow> i've never bothered looking such a thing up, but google dos emu's perhaps you wiill be lucky
[05:23] <drcode> hi all
[05:23] <holycow> otherwise that exe is not getting executed
[05:23] <sri> j813: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I believe
[05:23] <sri> j813: you need to do it in a shell.
[05:23] <j813> oh
[05:23] <drcode> when I do dpkg -l | I see "rc  taper" wht is rc?
[05:23] <thompa> in gnome the desktop icons are coming from usr/share/ pixmaps
[05:24] <thompa> so if i create a desktop shortcut in kde its blank in gnome
[05:24] <typewriter> what exactly is the multi-verse i see universe in source.list and backports not no multiverse?
[05:24] <slew> naw just too old for wine. i'll just load up windows. thanks =] 
[05:24] <lightbright> bye everyne! see you soon :)  God bless
[05:25] <j813> sri: how do I open shell?
[05:25] <thompa> is there a way to keep the kde desktop icons?
[05:25] <thompa> if i change or create one in gnome?
[05:25] <burner> j813, alt+f2, gnome-terminal
[05:26] <j813> :)
[05:26] <bimberi> typewriter: multiverse is for non-free or legally questionable software
[05:28] <germancito> no one knows where that file is??
[05:28] <typewriter> how do i get it in my sources.list?
[05:29] <Walla> hello
[05:30] <bimberi> typewriter: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 has a sample sources.list with it included
[05:30] <holycow> http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1994-21.html  <-- heh, offtopic but i wonder if it is true
[05:30] <Hobbsee> typewriter: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <j813> why cant I authenticate in terminal?
[05:30] <joft> is there any way i can force apt to get everything that it needs for dependencies?
[05:31] <crimsun> joft: that happens by default.
[05:31] <fletch33> what is my best package choice for ripping cd's to mp3
[05:32] <joft> i try apt-get -f install and it still has a list of about 10 things with dependency problems that it can't fix
[05:32] <crimsun> joft: what did you break?
[05:32] <joft> i tried upgrading to breezy and i've been having problems all day
[05:32] <joft> with nvidia, now applications giving me "segmentation fault"
[05:33] <crimsun> joft: so you altered sources.list, updated, and dist-upgraded?
[05:33] <joft> and apt having cyclic dependency problems
[05:33] <j813> Guys why can't I authenticate as root? I didn't see a place to enter a PW when I was installing
[05:33] <fletch33> anyone have a suggestion for the best program to rip cd's to mp3
[05:33] <crimsun> !root
[05:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:33] <joft> crimsun: i accidentally did upgrade before dist-upgrade
[05:33] <crimsun> joft: doesn't matter, dist-upgrade is what you need
[05:33] <joft> and i had backports in my sources.list at the time if that did anything
[05:34] <crimsun> joft: backports should be disabled before updating
[05:34] <joft> i've tried both, right now even -f upgrade and -f dist-upgrade won't fix it
[05:34] <crimsun> joft: _and_ you should remove _all_ backports
[05:34] <joft> they're gone now
[05:34] <crimsun> so what is the dist-upgraded hitching on?
[05:34] <crimsun> use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> Today, Google Video is a motley mix: clips of monkeys performing karate and robot dogs attacking iguanas. Tomorrow? No one knows, but everyone is worried.
[05:36] <joft> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4965
[05:36] <God> Anyone know how to install OpenGL Quick?
[05:36] <dirkson> Hey all. I'm getting this error (libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) on quite a few SDL apps... I get an analogous error with OpenAL too... Anyone have any clues on what I should be checking out?
[05:37] <joft> crimsun: that was with -f
[05:37] <ashwani> ashwani hi
[05:38] <ashwani> highvoltage hi
[05:38] <gar-> how i can install kdebase on ubuntu 5.04?????
[05:38] <ashwani> highvoltage can you help me using CUPS
[05:38] <crimsun> joft: do you have the breezy-security and breezy-updates repos enabled, too?
[05:39] <ashwani> crimsun can you help me using CUPS
[05:39] <Mabus06> !cups
[05:39] <ubotu> Mabus06: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:39] <joft> yes
[05:40] <gar-> !kdebase
[05:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, gar-
[05:40] <gar-> lol
[05:40] <bimberi> dirkson: do a contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com for that file and install the relevant package
[05:40] <gar-> how i can install kdebase on ubuntu 5.04?????
[05:40] <joft> except I just realized all the source package lines are commented out
[05:40] <joft> should I uncomment them?
[05:40] <crimsun> ashwani: no, I can't. Sorry.
[05:40] <dirkson> Bimberi: That's the crazy thing. It IS installed, and works fine for about half of SDL games
[05:40] <freakazoid333> gar run synaptic
[05:41] <crimsun> joft: you don't really need the deb-src lines
[05:41] <gar-> i run it
[05:41] <gar-> but dont find it
[05:41] <gar-> kdebase?
[05:41] <crimsun> joft: paste your uname -r and your sources.list onto paste
[05:41] <gar-> should i put the cd
[05:41] <typewriter> where is azureus?
[05:41] <gar-> or something like that when i run sinaptic???
[05:41] <Madpilot> !info kdebase
[05:42] <ubotu> kdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[05:42] <bimberi> dirkson: hm, k
[05:42] <freakazoid333> might be in nthe universe section
[05:42] <bimberi> dirkson: not sure then sorry
[05:42] <freakazoid333> i forget
[05:42] <drbyte> do any of you actually dual boot FreeBSD and Ubuntu?
[05:42] <joft> 2.6.12-10-686  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4966
[05:42] <typewriter> i have universe and multiverse in my sources.list now and sudo apt-cache search azureus shows nothing
[05:42] <dirkson> bimberi: np. It's confusing me to pieces. I wish the game would just recognize the silly library.
[05:43] <gar-> Madpilot so it should be on the synaptic?
[05:43] <bimberi> dirkson: yeah, all i can offer is sympathy.  I wonder if there is some sort of library path environment variable that it needs?
[05:43] <Madpilot> gar-: looks like it, yes. Search Synaptic for it
[05:43] <bimberi> gar-: you probably don't have any network repositories enabled
[05:43] <ajmitch_> yay, I finally got breezy cds in the mail :)
[05:44] <bimberi> ajmitch_: where's mine then! :)
[05:44] <Madeye> guys, my gaim, OO, abi word lost spell check....
[05:44] <crimsun> joft: aptitude remove libcamel1.2-6
[05:44] <gar-> Madpilot: let me see i bin all day thy to put to run my wireless card with not success
[05:44] <ajmitch_> bimberi: somewhere in the world
[05:44] <crimsun> joft: (and yes, it will remove a TON of stuff)
[05:44] <bimberi> ajmitch_: :)
[05:44] <joft> ok
[05:44] <dirkson> bimberi: Could be. I don't know enough commands to check what it has set as the library path
[05:44] <joft> done
[05:45] <typewriter> Package azureus is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:45] <typewriter> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:45] <typewriter> is only available from another source
[05:46] <crimsun> joft: now continue the dist-upgrade
[05:46] <joft> errors while processing: postfix; lsb-core; lsb-graphics; lsb-cxx; lsb
[05:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell typewriter about azureus
[05:47] <joft> want the whole output pastebinned again?
[05:47] <Madpilot> typewriter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:47] <crimsun> joft: do you still have the old 2.6.12-9 kernel lying about?
[05:47] <crimsun> joft: if so, reboot into it and try dist-upgrading again
[05:47] <joft> i should
[05:48] <joft> k
[05:48] <crimsun> it shouldn't change anything, so only try it as a last resort
[05:48] <crimsun> (I'm curious about the dpkg error)
[05:48] <joft> here's my latest output http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4967
[05:48] <sh10151> Hi, I notice that Ubuntu hangs when my iBook resumes after sleeping
[05:49] <joft> my most recent kernel behind that is 2.6.10-6
[05:49] <crimsun> joft: install postfix manually using dpkg
[05:50] <joft> hm, in this kernel x server won't work
[05:50] <harris> hi, can anyone tell me how I unmount my hardrive so that I can make another partition on my hardrive?
[05:50] <joft> no problem though
[05:51] <vid21> I just have a quicky question.  If copy my Ubuntu install CD to a spare HD that I have...  Will it work (will it install a system)?
[05:51] <crimsun> joft: that's because you're missing a l-r-m that matches the new security kernel
[05:51] <skalpel> can anyone tell me why gnomebaker might freeze up during audio cd burning?
[05:51] <ajmitch_> vid21: no, copying the cd is not going to work
[05:52] <ajmitch_> vid21: you'd still need to run the install from the cd
[05:52] <joft> crimsun: how do i install postfix with dpkg?
[05:52] <DaBass> is there a way to deselect not yet installed packages in dselect? i have selected a package and all its dependencies and i have changed my mind before i tried to install.
[05:53] <vid21> is there any way to boot an iso from any bootloaders?
[05:54] <crimsun> joft: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.2.4-1ubuntu2*.deb
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> ah ... java is killing me .. its so much of a resource hog
[05:54] <vid21> I'm just trying to get around a computer that won't read any of the disks that I give it properly.
[05:54] <vid21> Tried multiple CD-drives but it always fails on the base install
[05:54] <vid21> tried known working CDs and it fails as well.
[05:54] <joft> no such file or directory
[05:55] <crimsun> joft: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix*2.2.4-1ubuntu2*.deb
[05:55] <style2023> what's everyones opinion here about a Dual Xeon system vs. A pentium D system.... which is better for use with Adobe Photoshop?
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> style2023, eh ah .... asking about photoshop in ubuntu ?
[05:56] <style2023> wickedpuppy, why not!?
[05:56] <joft> it's not there
[05:56] <joft> i looked in the directory and no postfix is there
[05:56] <style2023> okay fine.... LETS HAVE DE WARS!!!
[05:56] <style2023> I THINK GNOME SUCKS!!!
[05:56] <crimsun> joft: aptitude reinstall postfix
[05:56] <Madpilot> I think trolls suck
[05:57] <harris> can anoyone tell me how to make another partition using a program found in ubuntu, i have gparted and Qtparted but both those do not give you the option to create one when the drive is mounted
[05:57] <durt> !start a wm war
[05:57] <ubotu> durt: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:57] <gpled> want to try my hand at making an x window application.  what package do i need to get started?
[05:57] <harris> and i can't figure out how to unmount it using kdisk
[05:57] <joft> ok, all this trouble was because postfix was running and apt wouldn't stop it before trying to reinstall it
[05:57] <joft> i stopped it and reinstalled
[05:58] <crimsun> joft: now finish the dist-upgrade, then reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <joft> the dist-upgrade had nothing left to do after that
[05:59] <joft> and ubuntu-desktop wasn't installed, so it's installing now
[05:59] <crimsun> so reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <Weng> What's the command to execute a perl script?
[05:59] <durt> harris: i think you have to use a livecd or something
[05:59] <jack-> anyone experienced with ubuntu-breezy on virtual pc?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> Weng, perl script.pl or chmod +x script.pl then ./script.pl
[05:59] <harris> durt, what distro would I use the livecd from?
[05:59] <harris> ubuntu?
[06:00] <dirkson> Style: Based on what I know (Used to work for Adobe as a sales agent) I'd guess a Pentium D would work -slightly- better, given all things equal. I haven't worked with the Pentium Ds yet, though, so I couldn't tell you for sure. (Also, you're slightly off topic, aren't ya'? :) )
[06:00] <Ueuecoyotl> This is weird. When I choose all the components in repository and click "Ok" and then "Add" again, only "officially supported" and "restricted copyright" have been chosen, not universe or multiverse. Could that be why I'm not finding Azureus?
[06:00] <Madpilot> harris: the Ubuntu LiveCD should work for that, if you've got one
[06:00] <Weng> That reminds me, I need to implement livenet booting on this system, too.
[06:00] <harris> it would make logical senese since when I try to unmount it says the device is busy
[06:00] <durt> harris: any should work, ubuntu might be easiest
[06:01] <harris> ok, cool... do you know any other bootable partition programs ?
[06:01] <harris> ones that I could just boot off the cd
[06:01] <cafuego> syslinux
[06:01] <harris> it might be faster then downloading a livedisc
[06:01] <Agamotto> RIP
[06:01] <joft> crimsun: was it a bad idea to install ubuntu-desktop when on an old kernel? like, is it going to get any packages specific to that kernel
[06:01] <cafuego> Oh, partitioning? Any live or install cd.
[06:01] <God> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d4968
[06:02] <durt> question about partitioning: can i take a partition and split it into several without losing the data on the original?
[06:02] <harris> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d4968 what is this?
[06:02] <God> OH. An error I get when I run /mkmkfiles.imake in the OpenGL build thing.
[06:02] <cafuego> harris: DOS boot floppy with fidk.exe
[06:02] <cafuego> fdisk even
[06:02] <pgw> how do I download source packages in synaptic?
[06:02] <harris> the thing is I don't have a floppy drive lol
[06:03] <cafuego> God: Why are you building opengl?
[06:03] <God> I downloaded glut-3.5 and ran mkmkfiles.imake in there and it gave me that eror.
[06:03] <harris> can I make a bootable cd with fdisk/
[06:03] <God> Because I know OpenGL and I don't want to forget it.
[06:03] <Agamotto> durt:  It is possible, but you really need to back up your data first.  This is playing with fire
[06:03] <crimsun> joft: no, it's separate from the kernel
[06:03] <God> And I've forgotten most of everything already. I need to get back up to date.
[06:03] <cafuego> God: It's porepackaged, why don't you just use the packages?
[06:03] <Agamotto> pgw:  You select them from the list, and then click apply
[06:03] <cafuego> prepackaged
[06:03] <God> Where?
[06:03] <cafuego> !find GL.h
[06:03] <joft> ok, that finished and i rebooted to my new kernel (and now nvidia isn't working again lol)
[06:04] <wickedpuppy> i am tempted to know god knows where .. but i think not
[06:04] <wickedpuppy> to say i mean
[06:04] <pgw> Agamotto: but for most of the packages I'm not even shown the corresponding source package...
[06:04] <God> I don't HAVE GL.h that's why I'm installing it.
[06:04] <Agamotto> pgw:  You don't need source.  The list is for the .deb files that are the equivalent to RPMs/
[06:04] <God> ld -lglut finds nothing
[06:05] <cafuego> God: usr/include/GL/gl.h is in libdevel/libgl1-mesa-dev
[06:05] <highvoltage> ashwani: sorry, bit busy atm
[06:05] <God> Where is libdevel?
[06:05] <God> in usr?
[06:05] <pgw> Agamotto: sure, but sometimes I _do_ need the source; for example, I'm having problems with the way a package was built, so I want to look at the source to see if I can figure out the problem
[06:05] <cafuego> God: Use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search; you should _not_ need to build any of that sort of libs for tarballs.
[06:05] <cafuego> God: 'sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev'
[06:06] <God> Alright
[06:06] <Agamotto> pgw:  Ahhh, check to see if the sources repositories are checked, then update the list.  They should show up after that
[06:06] <cafuego> God: If you need to compile, you normally need a -dev package.
[06:06] <cafuego> God: ... as well as the lib.... package.
[06:06] <sri> you know God, you probably should know this already
[06:06] <Agamotto> God has dementia....
[06:07] <God> sri:  Oh shut up.
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> cafuego, more karma to you ..
[06:07] <crimsun> joft: did you install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ?
[06:07] <Agamotto> Like the Irish, he invented civilization, had a few Guinness and forgot where he put it.
[06:07] <cafuego> wickedpuppy: Yeah, and i _NEED_ it :-(
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:07] <sri> hey man, you come on with a nick like that, you need to prepare yourself :-)
[06:07] <cafuego> No, seriously.
[06:08] <joft> now i'm getting this error when i try to start x windows:   "Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbnnx.o: no symbols found"
[06:08] <cafuego> God: type '/me smites thee' ;-)
[06:08] <crimsun> joft: you can ignore it.
[06:08] <pgw> Agamotto: the source repositories are configured just like their binary equivalents, but the source packages don't show up...
[06:08] <God> =D
[06:08] <Agamotto> pgw:  Hmmm, that is interesting.  Try searching for the sources on freshmeat, just to make sure
[06:09] <God> The occupation of God would be really boring, wouldn't it?
[06:09] <God> I mean..If you know everything already...what's the point?
[06:09] <Ueuecoyotl> Could anyone recommend a bittorrent client?
[06:09] <joft> wtf, pastebin stopped working for me
[06:09] <God> BitTorrent Downloader, UdontKnow.
[06:09] <God> Err. Not UdontKnow
[06:09] <God> Ueuecoyotl:
[06:09] <God> Ueuecoyotl:  BitTorrent Downloader.
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:09] <cafuego> God: Not if you were a smart god and invented, say, free will?
[06:09] <joft> ok
[06:10] <joft> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4969
[06:10] <cafuego> Ueuecoyotl: 'gnome-bittorrent' is installed by default.
[06:10] <God> cafuego:  Then what's the point in being god other than sitting there?
[06:10] <bimberi> God: type !hug
[06:10] <God> !hug
[06:10] <ubotu> ubotu gives god a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[06:10] <God> ?
[06:10] <cafuego> God: WHy do people play SimCity? To poke the anthill and see what happens ;-)
[06:10] <God> No.
[06:10] <Agamotto> !revolver
[06:10] <ubotu> Not a clue, Agamotto
[06:10] <Ueuecoyotl> cafuego, Err, that one seems kinda crappy though(?)
[06:10] <God> !kick
[06:10] <ubotu> God: Are you smoking crack?
[06:10] <God> Yeah.
[06:10] <bimberi> lol
[06:11] <God> Come on. Crack is the Best.
[06:11] <God> !love
[06:11] <ubotu> God: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:11] <harris> thanks for the help guys
[06:11] <harris> peace
[06:11] <ajmitch_> God: please stop it
[06:11] <God> !kill
[06:11] <ubotu> Wish i knew, God
[06:11] <twidget> Anybody help debug some PHP?
[06:11] <cafuego> #php knows
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> twidget, #php
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> wait .. so do god
[06:12] <twidget> wickedpuppy, thanks, but they seldom help
[06:12] <God> twidget:  type 'php filenamehere' in your command line
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> ...
[06:12] <God> twidget:  It should find all the errors...
[06:12] <crimsun> joft: sudo nvidia-glx-config disable
[06:12] <crimsun> joft: then restart gdm
[06:12] <God> twidget:  If you have php installed...I gues.
[06:12] <twidget> God, http://www.phpfi.com/88440 -- If I $url = 'http://anydomain.com/some/valid/rss/'; this code works fine, but once I use the file command to read the urls into an array, the whole thing breaks down. What am I doing
[06:13] <twidget> ...wrong? :)
[06:13] <ajmitch_> twidget: that's great, but it's still OT here :)
[06:13] <twidget> sorry :(
[06:13] <God> phpfi.com could not be found, twidget
[06:13] <joft> crimsun: when i try that, the script says it can't continue because xorg.conf has already been changed
[06:14] <twidget> God, it's there, I swear
[06:14] <God> twidget:  If you're just testing them out try echoing the values of the array instead of bugging with them.
[06:14] <cafuego> twidget: Is the text file readable?
[06:15] <twidget> I have, and yes
[06:15] <crimsun> joft: well, try nv instead of nvidia in the meantime
[06:15] <cafuego> twidget: What does echo $url; on line 6 say?
[06:15] <twidget> cafuego, each line of the file, which is the URI to a news feed
[06:15] <joft> a lot of my error messages are about missing fonts
[06:16] <twidget> I'm sorry to get everything off-topic. I'll drop this if ya'll want.
[06:16] <cafuego> twidget: *nod*
[06:16] <cafuego> twidget: Do you have 'register_globals' enabled?
[06:16] <God> twidget: I've been studying PHP but I can't access your file for some reason.
[06:16] <rohan> hi all
[06:17] <Agamotto> greetings
[06:17] <rohan> what a fight in the ubuntu forums about automatix!!!
[06:17] <rohan> Agamotto: :)
[06:17] <Agamotto> What, praytell, is automatix?
[06:17] <twidget> cafuego, I'll find out for sure. God, http://feeds.louisianablogs.org/config.txt
[06:17] <Madpilot> rohan: except that most of it got erased by some moderator...
[06:17] <rohan> Madpilot: yes..
[06:17] <rohan> Madpilot: all posts by apokryphos :)
[06:18] <Goatocausto> this is a bit of a dumb question, but can anyone help me with how to UNINSTALL/REMOVE Ubuntu from my pc ???
[06:18] <rohan> Madpilot: good thing too, we dont want people who are wanting to try ubuntu read it.
[06:18] <Agamotto> Goatoausto:  Sure, can you be a bit more specific, as far as partitions, number of drives, etc... involved
[06:18] <rohan> Goatocausto: use fdisk from some other distribution, or use a live cd, to delete the ubuntu partition.
[06:18] <twidget> cafuego, yes, they're on
[06:19] <twidget> http://feeds.louisianablogs.org/phpinfo.php
[06:19] <Goatocausto> rohan - the problem is i have xp running at the moment [using now]  and i need to keep it
[06:19] <Agamotto> Again, I ask - what is automatix?
[06:19] <Goatocausto> if i fdisk it, wont it totally fuck up my boot thing ???
[06:19] <God> twidget:  Are you sure you aren't getting a space before or after the link?
[06:19] <Goatocausto> can i use partition magic or something??
[06:19] <Agamotto> Guatocausto:  Partition Magic would be a very safe way of doing this, yes
[06:20] <twidget> God, hmmm, no, I guess I'm not sure. How could I be sure?
[06:20] <phiqtion> nalioth, you busy bro?
[06:20] <Goatocausto> ok so - how should i go about it ? (sorry, i havent done this before)
[06:20] <nalioth> phiqtion: not at al
[06:20] <rohan> Goatocausto: ok, use partition magic from xp.
[06:20] <God> twidget: echo a character before and after the URL like a '#' or something, and doing put spaces inbetween them. Like... echo "#$url#";
[06:20] <twidget> They're not that way in the file
[06:20] <Goatocausto> i mean, should i just delete the partition and the resize my existing partitions ??
[06:20] <phiqtion> nalioth, i need to know how can i fix a partition table error #110.
[06:21] <nalioth> phiqtion: i have no clue what that is
[06:21] <Agamotto> Boot from Windows, fire up PM, and choose the partitions that linux was living on.  Format these, and do whatever you want with them
[06:21] <rohan> nalioth: would you say that it is "safe" to use the version of automatix made by robotgeek ?
[06:21] <Kalidarn> does anyone know how to make a Microsoft Wireless Comfort set work under Linux? its a Wireless mouse and keyboard and the wireless reciever interfaces with the computer via USB
[06:21] <rohan> Goatocausto: yes.
[06:21] <Kalidarn> i would have thought it would have justed worked
[06:21] <phiqtion> nalioth, any programa that runs off a cd or floppy that would fix any HD errors?
[06:21] <rohan> Goatocausto: how many distributions do you have installed ?
[06:21] <Goatocausto> ok i dont suppose theres a "guide" or "faq" to it anywhere ??
[06:21] <twidget> God, aha! You were right, a trailing space
[06:22] <Agamotto> phiqtion:  fsck -a, if memory serves, on the partition while it is unmounted
[06:22] <God> twidget:  I'm so amazing.
[06:22] <c0rrupt> how can i install kernel source?
[06:22] <Goatocausto> i have one hdd, originally partitioned into c:\ [xp]  and another drive [my stuff] 
[06:22] <nalioth> rohan: i would say to wait a day or two, we are polishing up a more improved one
[06:22] <twidget> yes, you are
[06:22] <Goatocausto> now linux has um
[06:22] <twidget> I'll shut up about it now
[06:22] <rohan> nalioth: that has a new name ;)
[06:22] <nalioth> phiqtion: HD errors or partition errers?
[06:22] <joft> this is ridiculous
[06:22] <God> twidget:  If it doesn't work then I don't know. run php on it.
[06:22] <nalioth> rohan: yes, the one with the new name
[06:22] <rohan> nalioth: the new name is ?
[06:22] <joft> upgrading to breezy has completely destroyed my computer
[06:22] <whyameye> phiqtion: if it is HD errors, couldn't you use fsck?
[06:22] <TobyK> hi!
[06:22] <joft> i've spent all day trying to fix it
[06:23] <joft> and gotten nowhere
[06:23] <twidget> ...except that so say that you've already done much more than ##php has ever done for me :)
[06:23] <c0rrupt> what do i have to apt-get to install the latest kernel source??
[06:23] <Goatocausto> c:\, h: [my drive, with a small linux swap file/space in it, and another drive that has 60 gig as a "linux ext 2"
[06:23] <bimberi> c0rrupt: install linux-source-2.6.12 (for breezy) but do you really need it? what's it for?
[06:23] <God> twidget:  You should look for those things when dealing with strings.
[06:23] <c0rrupt> having trouble compiling something
[06:23] <c0rrupt> it keeps looking into
[06:23] <gar-> =/
[06:23] <gar-> no luck
[06:23] <Agamotto> joft:  Unfortunately, from what I hear, you aren't alone
[06:23] <c0rrupt> /usr/something/linux version/modules
[06:23] <God> twidget:  Remember strings are just big character arrays and they start on 0. So you have to do string.size()-1.
[06:23] <rohan> Goatocausto: just delete the ubuntu / and swap partition. or better still, remove all linux partitions, boot from xp cd, go into recovery console, type "fixboot" and "fixmbr" ... you are done.. reboot, resize your partitions.
[06:24] <c0rrupt> and .conf
[06:24] <bimberi> c0rrupt: then try installing linux-headers-$(uname -r) first
[06:24] <c0rrupt> in there i think
[06:24] <TobyK> can someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu breezy onto a brand new server (Dual P4 with 2gig RAM), but the 2.6.10 kernel won't boot up - it says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell"
[06:24] <phiqtion> nalioth, partition errors, this is what happened. i got a new old laptop with only 355mhz. the thing had windows98 on fat32. i tried wiping it off with ubuntu. when i insert the windows98 cd again it says it cannot install because of an error. so when i put the partition magic program that runs off a flopy it gives me error 110. any ideas?
[06:24] <c0rrupt> i think i already install headers
[06:24] <Goatocausto> ok ill try that
[06:24] <c0rrupt> but ill check
[06:24] <Goatocausto> hopefully cant fuck it up too much hey?
[06:24] <nalioth> phiqtion: what are you trying to do with it
[06:24] <gar-> i dont have not luck try to run my USB WIRELESS adapter DWL-G122 version b1 on ubuntu 5.04
[06:24] <nalioth> Goatocausto: please be civil in here
[06:24] <Goatocausto> so from partition magic just "delete" them
[06:24] <Goatocausto> sorry, i did not mean it in a vulgar or offensive manner
[06:25] <rohan> Goatocausto: any reason for removing linux ?
[06:25] <phiqtion> nalioth, im trying to install windows98 first and then ubuntu
[06:25] <nalioth> phiqtion: so the laptop is empty right now?
[06:25] <Goatocausto> yeah dont entirely need it at the moment though its nice, i need more hard drive space at the moment and im not too "certain" on it, kinda afraid haha
[06:26] <phiqtion> nalioth, yes. but when i try to install windows98 it says it cant because the hard drive contains an error.
[06:26] <gar-> any help here try to put to run the dwl-g122 ver b1 on ubuntu 5.04 i dont have another card and i cant connect to the net
[06:26] <nalioth> phiqtion: do you have a liveCD?
[06:26] <nalioth> phiqtion: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:26] <StarKruzr> a winner is my kitchen.
[06:26] <phiqtion> nalioth, no. i have the install cd. breezy
[06:26] <rohan> Goatocausto: nothing will happen. remove the partitions, and do as i told you, using the xp cd and all
[06:27] <joft> crimsun: i don't know if you're still there but now i've finished the dist-upgrade and i'm back in x windows (just did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but i still get "segmentation fault" when i try to run certain applications (and my sound still doesn't work)
[06:27] <Goatocausto> ok cool
[06:27] <crimsun> joft: no sound at all?
[06:27] <Goatocausto> sorry to bug but : 1)delete the partitions then reboot, fix stuff from xp cd, then resize once back in xp ??
[06:27] <gar-> i guess not
[06:27] <joft> no sound at all
[06:28] <joft> not to mention i'd like to get drivers for my actual card working :/
[06:28] <eatnumber1> anyone here from support willing to help me with an install issue?
[06:29] <gar-> anyone with advices of what can i do with the DWL-G122 should i set it on fire????
[06:29] <wickedpuppy> eatnumber1, just ask ...
[06:29] <crimsun> joft: what sound card?
[06:29] <joft> no clue, it's a dell inspirion 5150
[06:30] <TobyK> can someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu breezy onto a brand new server (Dual P4 with 2gig RAM), but the 2.6.10 kernel won't boot up - it says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell"
[06:30] <eatnumber1> i installed ubuntu x86_64 and after reboot, when it says installing packages... at 94% it shows a screen full of illegible text (hex, i think) and freezes
[06:30] <TobyK> however I can boot into 2.6.8 kernel
[06:30] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan
[06:31] <eatnumber1> I then restarted, and it booted, but said that not all the packages were installed correctly
[06:31] <eatnumber1> so... how do I reinstall the packages
[06:31] <Goatocausto> hey guys sorry to come back so quick
[06:31] <Goatocausto> what was the other command to run from the xp cd?
[06:31] <gar-> hum
[06:32] <Goatocausto> i remember "fixmbr" but there was another one
[06:32] <gar-> anyone would like to help me before i erase the ubuntu =/
[06:32] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  As a curiosity, what kind of graphics card in the system?
[06:33] <eatnumber1> agamotto: nvidia geforce 7800gtx
[06:33] <TobyK> anyone know how I can get the 686 version of the 2.6.8 kernel?? please? I can't find it in the repository
[06:33] <Goatocausto> Anyone, help please !!
[06:33] <joft> is there some application to detect all my hardware or something
[06:33] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Pardon my ignorance, but this is a rather recent card?
[06:34] <wickers> should be under restricted TobyK
[06:34] <Agamotto> TobyK:  The 586 and 686 are pretty much identical
[06:34] <eatnumber1> agamotto: the newest
[06:34] <Goatocausto> what was the other command to run from the xp cd? after deleting the partitions i made for ubuntu, i remember "fixmbr" but there was another one
[06:34] <TobyK> i don't see a 586 either - just a 386. this kernel is only using half my hardware - only one cpu and 1 gig ram!
[06:34] <wickers> Agamotto, actually I'd beg to differ... but for general use, nearly no difference would be noticed.
[06:35] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Check the Ubuntu wiki for issues regarding your video card.  90% usually is where X and other graphics bits get setup
[06:35] <TobyK> Goatocausto: maybe fdisk /mbr ?
[06:35] <gar-> anyone here have a working DWL-G122 from dlink working fine on ubuntu????? please let me know
[06:35] <Agamotto> TobyK:  Refresh me please, do you have a dual-core system?
[06:35] <eatnumber1> agamotto: but im having no problem using the system right now
[06:35] <Goatocausto> but wont fdisk totally remove my xp stuff ???
[06:35] <TobyK> agamotto: yes, and I can't get any of the newer kernels to boot
[06:35] <TobyK> to refresh: can someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu breezy onto a brand new server (Dual P4 with 2gig RAM), but the 2.6.10 kernel won't boot up - it says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell"
[06:35] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Hmmmm, very odd.
[06:36] <Agamotto> TobyK:  Athlon 64x2?
[06:36] <joft> I think my problem with xchat has to do with scim, I tried "strace xchat" and it says a lot of  " /tmp/scim-socket-frontend-joft  no file/directory" stuff
[06:36] <Agamotto> Ahhh, P4.... you need the smp kernel then, if memory serves
[06:36] <eatnumber1> agamotto: no entries in the ubuntu wiki for 7800 or 7800gtx
[06:36] <TobyK> even 2.6.10-10-386 doesn't boot up
[06:36] <eatnumber1> agamotto: or for nvidia
[06:36] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Hrm... so much for that idea.  I suppose it is possible that media has been corrupted?
[06:37] <TobyK> the only one that does, is 2.6.8-XX-386
[06:37] <eatnumber1> nop
[06:37] <Agamotto> TobyK:  If it says SMP, that should work
[06:37] <eatnumber1> agamotto: md5 hash was fine
[06:37] <Zedugh> Goatocausto, double check (maybe fdisk /h) or windows help, but fdisk /mbr should just write the windows master boot record
[06:37] <TobyK> yea I tried booting 2.6.10-10-686-smp but that didn't work either - same /dev/hda1 doesn't exist error, which is dumb 'cos it just boooted off that drive
[06:37] <eatnumber1> agamotto: only thing I couldent check was the CD itself
[06:37] <eatnumber1> agamotto: when it first burned, it checked it automatically
[06:38] <Agamotto> TobyK:  Out of curiousity, have you tried a Knoppix live cd in the system?  If two penguins show up, that is a good sign
[06:38] <eatnumber1> agamotto: but I dont kno how to check it now
[06:38] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Ok, I always like to rule out the stupid
[06:38] <gar-> anyone here have a working DWL-G122 from dlink working fine on ubuntu????? please let me know
[06:38] <TobyK> infact, Breezy wouldn't even install off the CD - it hung after installing it and trying to boot (something about hw_random), so I had to install 4.10 and upgrade to breezy
[06:38] <eatnumber1> agamotto: yea, thats a good habit
[06:39] <TobyK> agamotto: i haven't tried it, I do have a knoppix livecd so I can give it a go, but that isn't helping the /dev/hda1 doesn't exist problem
[06:39] <Weng> Shouldn't "./ppmtolss16 < missile2.ppm > splash.lss" feed missile2.ppm as stdin and use splash.lss as stdout?
[06:39] <eatnumber1> agamotto: I just ran synaptic telling it to reinstall all my installed packages, and it gave me an error that said "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle."
[06:40] <Agamotto> TobyK:  look in etc/fstab if you can get into it, and see what shows up there for /dev/hda1
[06:40] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Interesting, I have never seen that one.
[06:40] <wanglei_> 
[06:41] <wanglei_> is anybody here?
[06:41] <TobyK>  /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:41] <Agamotto> ni hao
[06:41] <wanglei_> ni hao
[06:41] <Agamotto> TobyK:  Now that is very odd.  You have an entry in fstab, but the system can't find it....
[06:42] <eatnumber1> agamotto:
[06:42] <eatnumber1> agamotto: ah, i found the answer
[06:42] <gar-> anyone here have a working DWL-G122 from dlink working fine on ubuntu????? please let me know
[06:42] <TobyK> aga: yup, i'm stumped. like i said, older kernel boots, newer one doesn't
[06:42] <hav0k> hey, can someone help me with setting up flash... im doing what it says in the wiki, but i got to this part where it's talking about "make" and i do it, and nothing happens
[06:42] <eatnumber1> agamotto: take a look... http://nslug.ns.ca/pipermail/nslug/2005-November/008759.html
[06:43] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan
[06:43] <eatnumber1> agamotto: u kno how to make that shell script?
[06:43] <wanglei_> is there anybody working in ubuntu-zh chinese support group?
[06:43] <hav0k> anyone?
[06:43] <Agamotto> gar-:  You have ready the guide to ndiswrapper and followed the instructions?
[06:44] <TobyK> these don't work: kernel 2.6.12-10-686-smp, kernel 2.6.12-10-386, kernel 2.6.12-10-386. But this one does, although it's only using half the machine: kernel 2.6.8.1-6-386
[06:45] <gar-> Agamotto: i did all that  trust me i try everything also my usb adapter is RT2500 and try some software but need some pack so i can install that tha is the las thing i did not try because i dont find the kdbase and the qt3 so i can continue
[06:45] <TobyK> so i figure, if I can get kernel 2.6.8.1-6-686-smp then it will all be fine for now - anyone know how I can get this? it's not in synaptic
[06:45] <TobyK> i've got breezy main and restricted in my sources.list
[06:46] <gar-> Agamotto: also im running ubuntu 5.04 and i need kdebase and qt3 so i can continue the installation of the ralink
[06:46] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Actually, that line run in a terminal under sudo should do the trick, if I am reading this properly.  No script needed
[06:46] <hav0k> hey, can someone help me with setting up flash... im doing what it says in the wiki, but i got to this part where it's talking about "make" and i do it, and nothing happens
[06:46] <joft> i found the reason for my segmentation faults was scim, removed scim and now those applications work
[06:47] <joft> but my sound still doesn't work and i'd like for the drivers for my actual card to work too
[06:47] <crimsun> joft: sorry, have been away. What sound card?
[06:47] <Agamotto> gar-:  Ok, again, I work from the stupid and work my way up
[06:47] <eatnumber1> agamotto: gimme a sec, ill try it
[06:47] <joft> don't know, it's a dell inspirion 5150
[06:47] <crimsun> joft: how new is the laptop?
[06:47] <gar-> Agamotto: what u mean????
[06:47] <crimsun> joft: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[06:48] <joft> 2 years?
[06:48] <eatnumber1> agamotto: i got E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:48] <eatnumber1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:48] <joft> Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97
[06:48] <Agamotto> gar-:  search in Synaptic for kubuntu, and install, that should take care of your K dependencies
[06:48] <eatnumber1> oh
[06:48] <crimsun> joft: ok, paste lspci -vv output onto paste
[06:48] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan
[06:48] <Madpilot> eatnumber1: if you try to use apt-get w/ Synaptic open, you'll get that
[06:49] <eatnumber1> agamotto: duh, i had synaptic open
[06:49] <Agamotto> hav0k:  Have you done the 'make install' step yet?
[06:49] <joft> it's on pastebin
[06:49] <joft> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4971
[06:49] <gar-> Agamotto: i try to look on Synaptic for kdebase not result also qt3 neather result
[06:49] <eatnumber1> it diddent do anything
[06:49] <Home_Dawg> Hi, how can I set up Samba so that I can print from my linux box to my windows printer on the same network ?
[06:49] <gar-> Agamotto: do you think im doing something wrong
[06:49] <eatnumber1>  it said "Reading package lists... Done
[06:49] <eatnumber1> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:49] <eatnumber1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:50] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  Ok, that means that you have/had something running that has tied up the package daemon
[06:50] <gar-> kubuntu
[06:50] <gar-> rofl
[06:50] <gar-> brb
[06:50] <gar-> now i see
[06:50] <gar-> ................................
[06:50] <eatnumber1> agamotto: nothing that I can see
[06:50] <Agamotto> Write the command down, log out, log in, and try it again
[06:50] <eatnumber1> agamotto: maybe u wanna vnc into my system and try doing it ureself?
[06:51] <thompa> !flash
[06:51] <ubotu> hmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:51] <Agamotto> gar-:  The easiest way to fetch the KDE stuff you need is to install Kubuntu
[06:51] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4970 When I try to make libopengl-dylan
[06:51] <skon> Anyone know how can I set up Samba so that I can print from my linux box to my windows printer on the same network ?
[06:52] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  I wish I was that good
[06:52] <eatnumber1> agamotto: oh... lol
[06:52] <Quequeg> skon, printing from gnome or kde?  look into cups...
[06:52] <God> Anyone kn ow how to get melange?
[06:52] <skon> actually, from command line
[06:52] <Agamotto> skon:  tell cups to send all prints to 'smb://printer'?
[06:53] <eatnumber1> so... any ideas on what to do?
[06:53] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  No, I am befuddled at this point.  Give me a few for a cogitate
[06:53] <eatnumber1> agamotto: k
[06:54] <pztak> i've been trying to recompile the kernel, and i checked to include ext3 (fs of / partition), but i always get an error when i try to boot with the new kernel about the .dep file (for modules) not being found and ext3 module failing to load (even though it's compiled into the kernel).. anyone know why? also, any reason why ubuntu has ext3 as a module (even for primary / fs?)
[06:54] <gerberad> anyone around that can help with using the windows key as a modifier?  right now it's acting like a normal key
[06:54] <Agamotto> gerberad:  What have you chosen for your keyboard layout?
[06:55] <gerberad> Agamotto,  generic 104-key
[06:55] <gerberad> i have a dell laptop
[06:55] <gerberad> it doesn't work on my compaq laptop either
[06:55] <gerberad> desktops work fine though
[06:56] <thompa> !realplayer
[06:56] <ubotu> realplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:56] <gerberad> Agamotto, any idea?
[06:56] <gerberad> Agamotto, i think it has to do with xmodmap somehow?
[06:56] <Agamotto> gerberad:  Go into the settings, and pick a keyboard layout that says windows key at the end... I know there are a few generic entries...
[06:57] <NsOmNiAc> ok for some reason I'm brain dead right now
[06:57] <j813> How can I install g++, c++, gpp, etc. to make Flash for 64bit?
[06:57] <Agamotto> gerberad:  Yes, xmodmap was something else I was trying to remember
[06:57] <NsOmNiAc> recursive move of a directly and all subdirectorys is what ?
[06:57] <NsOmNiAc> command line
[06:57] <Quequeg> pztak, why not compile is as static?
[06:57] <God> Anyone kn ow how to get melange?
[06:57] <NsOmNiAc> errrr directory
[06:57] <gerberad> Agamotto, i'll try that w/win key layout firs
[06:58] <Agamotto> God:  Go to Arrakis?
[06:58] <God> Agamotto:  What?
[06:58] <Zedugh> Agamatto: lol
[06:58] <pztak> Quequeg, what do you mean? i did. i marked it as 'y' and not 'm'
[06:58] <NsOmNiAc> nm
[06:59] <pztak> Quequeg, but if i import my kernel config from the default ubuntu kernel, i see that for some reason ext3 is set as a module ???
[07:00] <gerberad> Agamotto, i think that w/windows key is a kde setting :\ not gnome
[07:00] <Agamotto> pztak:  All fs are considered modules.  It makes further fs developement with the kernel branches easier to manage
[07:00] <gerberad> anyone else have ideas re this keyboard and win keys?
[07:01] <Agamotto> gerberad:  Try the 105-key keyboard
[07:01] <pztak> Agamotto, I thought you were suppose to compile into the kernel your filesystem (not as a module) for the / partition ??
[07:01] <Zedugh> God: you can get melange at http://melange.sehrsupa.net/download/index.html
[07:01] <gerberad> Agamotto, that's int'l... not US
[07:02] <Agamotto> System -> Prefs -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[07:02] <Agamotto> Sure, but try it anyway to see if anything happens
[07:02] <gerberad> Agamotto, i know where it is ;)
[07:02] <Agamotto> Ok, just making sure
[07:02] <gerberad> brb, i was playiht xmodmap and set super to mod4, so i think all should be well again :)
[07:03] <Agamotto> pztak:  As long as it is set as a loadable module, no probs
[07:03] <eyequeue> did anyone else lose their desktop today with that upgrade?
[07:03] <eyequeue> as well as esd
[07:04] <renedox> no, I just reformatted
[07:04] <pztak> Agamotto, also, do you know why i get a .dep file missing if i use the make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image modules_image or is that error because i didn't make ext3 a module?
[07:04] <renedox> where can I get a complete list of repositories for breezy?
[07:04] <renedox> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:04] <Madpilot> !repos
[07:04] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:04] <renedox> has the hoary ones
[07:04] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[07:04] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[07:04] <ghostpsalm> What permissions ought the /var and /tmp folders have, and all their contents?
[07:04] <eyequeue> how do i go about getting my 4 desktops back?
[07:05] <MrFarts> does anyone know why ubuntu has problems running remote X applicatons ?
[07:05] <MrFarts> i have DISPLAY setup propertly but the X server is refusing connections
[07:05] <Agamotto> eyequeue:  What upgrade please?
[07:05] <eyequeue> Agamotto:  in breezy today
[07:05] <Madpilot> ghostpsalm: 755
[07:05] <Agamotto> pztak:  yes, module dependency
[07:05] <foxiness> eyequeue, what you mean by lost desktop?
[07:05] <eyequeue> Agamotto:  one was security, one was not
[07:05] <pztak> Agamotto, what do you mean? how do i fix it?
[07:06] <eyequeue> foxiness:  there's 4 desktops normally?  i'm down to 1
[07:06] <tritium> Sorry to whoever I missed a message from...
[07:06] <ghostpsalm> Madpilot - and the /var/run/sudo file?  It says it ought too be 0700?
[07:06] <Madpilot> eyequeue: todays update ate your virtual desktops? it kept all eight of mine, no problems
[07:06] <eyequeue> also, the little icons inside the menus disappeared, if that's relevant
[07:06] <foxiness> eyequeue, did you mean Workspace Switcher ?
[07:06] <Agamotto> eyequeue:  Hmmm, I haven't seen anything so far, and I have been online for almost 3hrs now... go figure
[07:06] <Madpilot> ghostpsalm: that's what mine is set to
[07:07] <Zedugh> eyequeue, are you using gnome, kde, xfce4, or what?
[07:07] <eyequeue> foxiness:  i don't know gui terms well
[07:07] <eyequeue> Zedugh:  gnome
[07:07] <Agamotto> pztak:  Add the ext3 module as y to the kernel, if I am following correctly
[07:07] <Zedugh> i had no problem w/ today's updates
[07:07] <Zedugh> using gnome
[07:07] <foxiness> eyequeue, this 4 small box on bottem of your screen near to Trash?
[07:08] <Madpilot> eyequeue & Zedugh: Gnome here too, and no problems w/ my desktops
[07:08] <pztak> Agamotto, i did add the ext3 as 'y'.. you mean mark it as 'm' ? also, if i use ndiswrapper, do i have to dl the src and recompile the module or can i use what i have now?
[07:08] <God> melange won't install.
[07:08] <Zedugh> eyequeue, did you change, install, remove anything else?
[07:08] <eatnumber1> agamotto: any ideas?
[07:08] <eyequeue> foxiness:  there's only 1, but i meant the ability to alt-ctrl-right and alt-ctrl-left
[07:08] <c0rrupt> to whoeever was helping me, installing new headers didnt fix my problem
[07:08] <c0rrupt> HansZwolle, dont ping me
[07:08] <Madpilot> eyequeue: that's working here for me, too
[07:08] <c0rrupt> -.-
[07:09] <Agamotto> pztak:  You should be ok with y, but try m.  the ndiswrapper stuff should be ok as-is.
[07:09] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors.
[07:09] <eyequeue> these are the packages that upgraded (courtesy of apt-listchanges mail)
[07:09] <sethk> he's gone.
[07:09] <sethk> but y is always ok
[07:09] <Agamotto> eatnumber1:  No, and I can't figure why...
[07:09] <foxiness> eyequeue, ok try to reinstall this application may it solv this problem
[07:09] <eyequeue> iptables (1.3.1-2ubuntu1.1) breezy-updates; urgency=low
[07:09] <eyequeue> xkeyboard-config (0.6-5breezy1) breezy-updates; urgency=low
[07:09] <eatnumber1> agamotto: ok... thx for ure help
[07:10] <rubem> hy tehre
[07:10] <Madpilot> eyequeue: yeah, I had the same two, and no trouble
[07:10] <eyequeue> i cant imagine netfilter is the culprit, but xkeyboardconfig is a gui thing?
[07:10] <MrFarts> anyone ?
[07:10] <rubem> anyone know how to configyure JAVA_HOME ?
[07:10] <Agamotto> eyequeue: X manages both keyboards and mouse to some degreen
[07:10] <RedRose> how do i make a process child that won't gewt killed after i exit the user(root)?
[07:10] <eyequeue> Madpilot:  any ideas what bit me?
[07:10] <renedox> MrFarts: did you enable x forwarding?
[07:10] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors when I try to make melange.
[07:11] <pztak> Agamotto, i did try with y and that's when i got the funky error about ext3 module not being able to load even though i compiled it as y and not a module..
[07:11] <MrFarts> renedox, do i need to ?
[07:11] <rubem> ?????
[07:11] <renedox> MrFarts: yes
[07:11] <MrFarts> renedox, i just typed in xhost +
[07:11] <eyequeue> Agamotto:  i'm more inclined to think of this at a higher level than x though, more ilke gnome level
[07:11] <MrFarts> renedox, what else needs to be done ?
[07:11] <RedRose> how do i make a process child that won't gewt killed after i exit the user(root)? i want to start an nmap, then logout
[07:11] <Madpilot> eyequeue: no idea - what happens when you right click on the panel and re-install the switcher?
[07:11] <renedox> MrFarts: should be ssh <username>@<ip> -X
[07:11] <MrFarts> renedox, let me try ..
[07:11] <RedRose> i know you can do &... but that it quits after i exit
[07:12] <Quequeg> RedRose, 'nohup', or screen.
[07:12] <joft> since I upgraded to breezy my sound isn't working
[07:12] <eyequeue> Madpilot:  now i have two switchers, each with only 1 in it
[07:12] <Zedugh> eyequeue, if you're talking about Ctrl-Alt-Left (or Right) its in X not gnome, try Ctrl-Alt-F2
[07:12] <RedRose> Quequeg:What is screen?
[07:13] <foxiness> gtkblog not work on my ubuntu from 5.04 ,and i dont know why?!
[07:13] <foxiness> sorry blogtk
[07:13] <eyequeue> Zedugh:  no, iu'm trying to go (still within x) to alternate virtual desktops, but they stopped existing
[07:14] <MrFarts> renedox, doesn't work
[07:14] <Quequeg> RedRose, screen allows you to create a kind of virtual terminal, in which you can run ncurses programs, etc., but you can detach from the screen and log-out, whatever, without losing/terminating that session
[07:14] <Madpilot> eyequeue: right click on the switcher itself, and up the # of desktops
[07:14] <renedox> MrFarts: is it enabled in your ssh config file?
[07:14] <foxiness> blogtk not work on my ubuntu from 5.04 ,and i dont know why?! and this output "IOError: unsupported XML-RPC protocol" how-can i fix this?
[07:14] <MrFarts> renedox, on the server ?
[07:15] <eyequeue> Madpilot:  i knew it was somewhere!  couldn't find it.  thanks
[07:16] <MrFarts> renedox, ok, works now
[07:16] <MrFarts> renedox, thanks
[07:16] <mrkoje> how efficient is emulating windows programs when you need to use them?
[07:16] <mrkoje> like adobe or macromedia?
[07:16] <eyequeue> okay, now this is  that kb package, i know it.  how to i get repeating keys back?  hold down backspace xchat and i only get one backspace
[07:16] <Madpilot> eyequeue: again, I've still got repeating keys here... ddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[07:16] <renedox> MrFarts: :)
[07:16] <Madpilot> ;)
[07:16] <foxiness> mono get updated to 1.1.10 and monodevlop to 0.8 ,can i find this on ubuntu ? or there easy way to get this package install ?
[07:17] <eyequeue> "the application gnome-keyboard-properties has quit unexpectedly"
[07:17] <Zedugh> eyequeue, sorry for the non-info
[07:17] <eyequeue> Zedugh:  np
[07:18] <God> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4972 There are the errors when I try to make melange.
[07:18] <eyequeue> i think i'm going to restart x
[07:18] <eyequeue> or maybe the whole system
[07:19] <Llewxam> can anybody help me with something?
[07:19] <Zedugh> God, yeah, i looked at you're paste, and its a melange problem, not a ubuntu one. The majority of source tarballs i've downloaded wont compile
[07:19] <rubem> does GD library comes when I install php via apt-get?
[07:20] <Zedugh> God: sometimes it's because the author used different versions of libraries, or compiler, etc., but at least 50% its bugs in the code
[07:21] <rubem> ??????????????????????????????
[07:21] <rubem> anyone?
[07:22] <Quequeg> People are sooooo much more likely to help now.
[07:22] <highvoltage> :)
[07:22] <cdubya> Llewxam, just ask
[07:25] <Agamotto> Funny, I thought Pablo Escobar was dead....
[07:26] <Kazuya> lol
[07:26] <Kazuya> mmm
[07:27] <Kazuya> how do i enable framebuffer?
[07:28] <drcode> how I can check linux time zone?
[07:28] <Llewxam> sorry for the delay... out of the blue ubuntu quit recognizing my wifi card. in boot i get a 'could not allocate resource 0 to device... forgot the rest' and i get this error: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device. when i try through the network settings
[07:29] <kubuntu_guy> hi guys
[07:29] <rubem> hi
[07:29] <AMDXP> kubunto hey ther
[07:29] <God> Zedugh:  Sorry, I just barely read your message..How do I fix it?
[07:29] <rubem> anyone use php?
[07:29] <kubuntu_guy> any links that can help me to set up a samba with ldap authen
[07:29] <God> rubem: Me
[07:30] <sss_lr> !samba-ldap
[07:30] <ubotu> sss_lr: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:30] <kubuntu_guy> I want to use ldap for my samba authen instead of nis
[07:30] <God> !grrrrandma.
[07:30] <ubotu> God: I give up, what is it?
[07:30] <God> !What is what?
[07:30] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, God
[07:31] <God> ...Wow.
[07:31] <God> I'll figure this whole shabang out tomorrow..
[07:31] <God> later.
[07:31] <gar-> =/
[07:31] <cdubya> Llewxam, so you're trying to get the connection back up from the networking applet?
[07:32] <Zedugh> God, look at the FAQ or post a BUG here: http://melange.sehrsupa.net/phorum/index.html  it's their problem (and yours if you chose). If you fix it, you've debugged their code for them.
[07:32] <crimsun> joft: sorry, I keep being interrupted. Where were we?
[07:32] <gar-> Zedugh: i still dont have luck with the adapter lol
[07:32] <Llewxam> i am trying to get this to recognize the wifi card. wlan0 is not showing in the network applet anymore.
[07:33] <Zedugh> gar-, good luck, my ex-wife has a DWL-G120, not supported by ndiswrapper, and I can't even get it installed in win98.
[07:33] <gar-> i dont want to erase ubuntu =/
[07:33] <gar-> because is RT2500
[07:33] <gar-> ratalk
[07:33] <Llewxam> i ran iwconfig and ifconfig and all the other commands and it shows up.
[07:33] <Llewxam> but it just won't work at all
[07:33] <cdubya> Llewxam, ouch....
[07:34] <cdubya> hang on...
[07:34] <Llewxam> k
[07:34] <Zedugh> gar-, do any other USB devices work ok on your system?
[07:34] <gar-> yeap
[07:34] <gar-> the mouse work great
[07:34] <gar-> i think maybe is something im doing wrong
[07:34] <gar-> no is im doing wrong
[07:34] <dcj028> hi... i'm very new to ubuntu... very cool op system and i'm very impressed so far... can anyone help me install the codecs and/or a good program for digital media? (.mp3 primarily)
[07:35] <gar-> Zedugh: i need to install kdebase and qt3 but seen that syn dont have the pack
[07:35] <gar-> Zedugh: im running 5.04
[07:35] <Agamotto> gar-:  Try installing kubuntu
[07:35] <gar-> Zedugh: try 3 time the syn dont find it
[07:36] <Zedugh> gar-, i cant check it for 5.04, i'm on 5.10
[07:36] <cdubya> Llewxam, not sure if it this is it, but what do you have in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[07:36] <thunderbolt> dcj028: I like xmms for my music playing needs
[07:36] <gar-> Agamotto: i think is not supported by 5.04
[07:36] <Agamotto> No, I got it while using 5.04....
[07:36] <Zedugh> I like xmms too
[07:36] <n0dl> how do i play a cd in mpg123?
[07:37] <Agamotto> From the main website, if I remember the link properly
[07:37] <gar-> Agamotto: but how downloading it with net update?
[07:37] <Llewxam> one sec
[07:37] <gar-> hmmm
[07:37] <dcj028> thanks thunderbolt
[07:37] <Zedugh> n0dl, if its a regular audio cd (with .WAV files) you don't use mpg123
[07:37] <n0dl> ... well im in command line
[07:37] <Agamotto> gar-:  Have you gone to the website and clicked on Kubuntu icon?
[07:37] <durt> and there are all sorts of gtk2 alternatives to xmms: bmp, bmpx, audacious, (xmms2?)
[07:38] <gar-> checking now
[07:38] <darth_chatri> i'm having problems hibernating my dell laptop from kde
[07:38] <darth_chatri> it works with the gdm hibernate option
[07:38] <n0dl> does anyone know how to play CDs in command line?
[07:38] <im_addicted19> whats your problem with ur laptop??
[07:38] <Zedugh> n0dl, there is a package called cdtool...
[07:39] <n0dl> i c
[07:40] <n0dl> Zedugh: i tired to look for it in synaptic and cant find it
[07:40] <renedox> what repo is azureus in?
[07:40] <Zedugh> n0dl, what version ubuntu r u?
[07:41] <Madpilot> renedox: it's not
[07:41] <Madpilot> !tell renedox about azureus
[07:42] <shelli>  hey
[07:42] <gar-> Agamotto: do u have to download the kubunto????
[07:42] <Ce_ndek> gtttt
[07:43] <Zedugh> n0dl, hoary or breezy or?
[07:43] <n0dl> Zedugh: breezy
[07:43] <Zedugh> n0dl, cdtool is in universe, have you got that enabled?
[07:43] <n0dl> Zedugh: yes i do
[07:44] <Llewxam> whoa...
[07:44] <darth_chatri> im_addicted19: were you asking me?
[07:45] <n0dl> Zedugh: i found it
[07:45] <cdubya> Llewxam,......any luck?
[07:45] <GTroy> is there a installed vnc client?
[07:45] <Llewxam> can i pm ya cdubya?
[07:45] <anavim> where are my application settings stored?
[07:46] <GTroy> errr vnc viewer?
[07:46] <jknife> hey
[07:46] <cdubya> Llewxam, sure
[07:46] <Agamotto> Most are in hidden .whatever files in your /home
[07:46] <chr1snv> Sorry to budd in, anyone know how to uncompress an initrd file so that i can edit the linuxrc inside?
[07:46] <jknife> nope srry
[07:47] <anavim> Agamotto, actually, roughly half of mine are.  do you know where else they might store settings?
[07:47] <Agamotto> anavim:  Possibly in /etc, and /usr
[07:47] <jknife> yall know what a neat OS is?
[07:47] <Agamotto> Amiga
[07:47] <RancidLM> hey all...
[07:48] <jknife> Plan9
[07:48] <anavim> Agamotto, do you know where firefox stores it's bookmarks, and where evolution stores it's email accounts?
[07:48] <Zedugh> chr1snv, gunzip initrd.img.gz (or gunzip initrd.gz), to get image file. you must mount the image on a loop back device, then you can access it.
[07:48] <RancidLM> if i have a single ubuntu .deb file.. how do i install it since its not from a repository?
[07:48] <Agamotto> I thought that Plan 9 was a window manager?
[07:48] <jknife> dpkg -i <name>
[07:48] <Agamotto> RancidLM:  dpkg -i
[07:48] <chr1snv> Zedugh, Thank you
[07:49] <RancidLM> jknife, Agamotto Thanks :)
[07:49] <jknife> np
[07:50] <jknife> dapper is the next version?
[07:50] <Zedugh> jknife, yes
[07:50] <jknife> k
[07:50] <jknife> I KNOW HOW TO USE IT
[07:50] <anavim> I keep losing my email accounts and bookmarks whenever I reinstall ubuntu... my email is intact, though.. in .evolution
[07:51] <jknife> dont reinstall?
[07:51] <moo> is there a way to find out your ram speed in linux? e.g. pc3200 etc
[07:51] <jknife> doesnt memtest tell it?
[07:52] <moo> how long does that take to run? ive never touched it
[07:52] <chr1snv> Zedugh, spoke too soon, it says unknown suffix - - ignored
[07:52] <cdubya> anavim, my bookmarks.html file is in ~/.mozilla/default/whatever_the_default_suddir_is
[07:52] <jknife> as long as you want it to
[07:52] <nickrud> moo, dmidecode tells you more than you want to know; the cpu is towards the top
[07:52] <anavim> it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have 9 email accounts  :(
[07:52] <nalioth> moo: open a terminal and type "sudo lshw"
[07:53] <chr1snv> Zedugh, i tryed before to rename it to .gz and then change it back to .img after it finished, but the mount command returned errors
[07:53] <Zedugh> chr1snv, what says unknown suffix
[07:53] <Quequeg> anavim, why don't you forward them to one account (and use a filter to direct them to folders if necessary)?
[07:53] <chr1snv> Zedugh, gunzip says unknown suffix
[07:54] <Zedugh> chr1snv, what was the original initrd file name?
[07:54] <nickrud> nalioth, I didn't know my cpu had a size of 800 ;)
[07:54] <nalioth> nickrud: did you run "sudo lshw" ?
[07:54] <chr1snv> Zedugh, it was initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k7
[07:54] <anavim> Quequeg, my email itself is intact, but I don't know how to back up the account info, so if I reinstall I have to recreate all nine accounts
[07:54] <nickrud> nalioth, yeah, that's where I saw it
[07:55] <Llewxam> brb
[07:55] <jknife> why aint they using the nvidia-glx v76.76 driver?
[07:55] <nalioth> nickrud: shows you a lot of stuff, doesnt it?
[07:55] <nickrud> same stuff, different format
[07:55] <moo> nalioth, nickrud those programs dont tell you the clock speed of your ram
[07:55] <Zedugh> chr1snv, thats an uncompressed initrd image, just mount the original file on a loopback device
[07:55] <nickrud> moo, mine did; it said it was running at 800, and was capable of 1200
[07:55] <moo> hm
[07:55] <nalioth> moo: if it doesnt, then im not sure what else to run
[07:56] <moo>      *-memory
[07:56] <moo>           description: System memory
[07:56] <moo>           physical id: 1
[07:56] <moo>           size: 767MB
[07:56] <nalioth> moo: please dont paste in here
[07:56] <moo> cool app tho, I've never heard of it, is it in other distros?
[07:56] <nalioth> moo: is it not in all distros, no
[07:57] <moo> knoppix?
[07:57] <jknife> moo if you need to paste do it in #freebsd :P
[07:57] <Quequeg> anavim, without trying to pass the buck, I don't know evolution.  Try asking a chan specific to the evolution novell folks.
[07:57] <nickrud> lol
[07:57] <moo> k, can do :p
[07:57] <nalioth> moo: i'm not sure, i dont use other distros
[07:57] <nalioth> moo: i do help folks that use other distros, and by helping, i've found it's not there
[07:58] <jknife> ive used MANY distros... but i know my hw so i never messed w/that stuff
[07:58] <chr1snv> Zedugh, would you happen to know the filesystem type?
[07:58] <Zedugh> chr1snv, i'm surprised its asking you, but probably ext2
[07:58] <nalioth> moo: in your terminal, type "sudo lshw > ~/myhardware"
[07:59] <nalioth> moo: that'll give you a text file in your home dir you can read at your leisure
[07:59] <gp> Terminal command to search for files named ... ?
[07:59] <moo> yeah well i can scroll as well, i read all of it
[07:59] <moo> find / -name blahblah
[07:59] <moo> i think
[07:59] <durt> or locate
[08:00] <moo> or sudo updatedb && locate blah
[08:00] <nickrud> anavim, the accounts are kept in gconf; /apps/evolution/mail
[08:00] <jknife> i like slocate
[08:00] <DeMoNSeEd> hello
[08:00] <chr1snv> Zedugh, :/ no such luck i tryed vfat ext2 ext3 ntfs and hfs
[08:00] <jknife> good bye
[08:00] <gar-> no luck
[08:00] <anavim> nickrud, thx
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> thanks jknife
[08:01] <jknife> ?
[08:01] <gp> Oke, find did not find it... menudefs.hook is stored where?
[08:01] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[08:01] <Slaj_R> Question ... I have installed Lilypond v.2.2.6.  I want to upgrade to 2.6, the latest stable version, but apt-get doesn't seem to be able to find the latest version.
[08:02] <jknife> updated your sources?
[08:02] <DeMoNSeEd> i got my breezy cd.....put it on, but i find it very slow, is there something wrong with breezy that it so much slower
[08:02] <durt> gp "locate menudefs.hook"
[08:02] <jknife> DeMoNSeEd, live? or install?
[08:02] <crimsun> Slaj_R: it might be in breezy-backports. We have 2.6.3-9 in Dapper.
[08:02] <Slaj_R> jknife:  Well, I did $apt-get update
[08:02] <gayatri> py tolek
[08:03] <jknife> Slaj_R, what version of Ubuntu are you running
[08:03] <jknife> DeMoNSeEd, the live cd is a HELL of a LOT slower then it installed
[08:03] <jknife> im running it on a 333mHz 256mb ram pc w/o any problems
[08:04] <Slaj_R> breezy
[08:04] <gayatri> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> nope i installed as usual actually i've never ran the live on any version
[08:04] <nickrud> Slaj_R, the version won't change in breezy. It may show up in backports, but you'll probably need to find another repository until dapper releases.
[08:04] <Steil> heh
[08:04] <Agamotto> Time for sleep, I think...
[08:04] <Steil> it runs fine on my 133mhz
[08:04] <Steil> though i can't use metacity
[08:04] <Slaj_R> Is there an alternate way to upgrade?  Manually, perhaps?
[08:04] <jknife> Slaj_R, they may not have updated it yet
[08:04] <DeMoNSeEd> if i put hoary on it runs well
[08:05] <DeMoNSeEd> upgrade, same deal slow
[08:05] <durt> how much ram steil?
[08:05] <Steil> 48mb
[08:05] <jknife> Steil, im using gnome, Firefox, XChat, and the updater w/o any slow downs
[08:05] <durt> wow
[08:05] <Steil> heh I don't use my p133 anymore though
[08:05] <nickrud> gnome?
[08:05] <Slaj_R> jknife: so no upgrade for me until then, eh?
[08:05] <Steil> not worth the power it consumes
[08:06] <gp> Is there anyway to embed a command within a command?  Like 'editor (locate menudefs.hook)' ?
[08:06] <jknife> nickrud, you dont know that gnome is?
[08:06] <jknife> :|
[08:06] <nickrud> nosilver4u, gnome on a 133
[08:06] <DeMoNSeEd> k thanks anyways..... hopefully Dapper will be fast again
[08:06] <Steil> gp: gedit `locate blah`
[08:07] <zdennis> hey all...having issues with gdmsetup (i have never been able to run it)..... it says GDM Configuration File not found
[08:07] <Zedugh> chr1snv, i tried myself, don't know. i've mounted initrd images from other distros (knoppix, slackware) this way
[08:08] <zdennis> where does it look bydefault? It exists in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:08] <nickrud> I'll have some cats to give away soon, I fear
[08:09] <jknife> i  have one
[08:09] <jknife> but shes no lil pussy
[08:10] <chr1snv> Zedugh, perhaps i am typing something wrong? (sudo mount initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k7 /mnt/initrd/ -o loop) , oh now it seems it throws a "connot find a free loop device" error
[08:10] <chr1snv> Zedugh, i am in a live cd boot could this be a problem?
[08:12] <Quequeg> chr1snv, maybe you need to 'umount' prior mount attempts?  Does "cat /etc/mtab" tell you what those other mounted loop devs are?
[08:12] <jknife> wow... ubuntu must be for pirates so much p2p software
[08:12] <tritium> jknife, no, we don't condone pirating
[08:12] <vegos> can anyone suggest a wma audio package?
[08:13] <DeMoNSeEd> got it
[08:13] <jknife> ?
[08:13] <DeMoNSeEd> does this make sense, i need to disable ipv6 in breezy
[08:13] <jknife> im using it
[08:14] <jknife> are you using the latest kernel?
[08:14] <vegos> bump
[08:14] <DeMoNSeEd> i googled, for an entry saying ipv6 is slowing down breezy by 4 times
[08:14] <jknife> there is a updated kernel newer then the cd
[08:14] <DeMoNSeEd> i was yes
[08:14] <jknife> k
[08:15] <jknife> try it
[08:15] <DeMoNSeEd> disable ipv6 and speed dramatically increases, i'll try it
[08:15] <DeMoNSeEd> brb
[08:15] <chr1snv> Quequeg, nope, i cannot find any loop devices at all in "cat /etc/mtab"
[08:15] <Nikyo> Is there a way to save Ubuntu 5.10 Live Cd settings to USB hard drive or USB thumb drive? Please..
[08:15] <vegos> can someone suggest an wma audio package
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> vegos, whats a wma audio package ?
[08:16] <jknife> Nikyo, yes set the home folder to its dev
[08:16] <vegos> something that will enable me to play my wma files on rhythmbox
[08:16] <jknife> windows media
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> you mean wma player ?
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> !wma
[08:16] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:17] <silwol> good morning
[08:17] <jknife> (you can always search sf.net for one)
[08:17] <Rotan> HELP
[08:17] <Rotan> help help help!!!
[08:17] <Nikyo> jknife: how do I do that.. make /home /dev?
[08:17] <tritium> Rotan, please stop, and state your problem
[08:17] <silwol> maybe somebody can help me with my problem: since my last kernel update for ubuntu 5.10 I got some problems with my nvidia driver
[08:18] <Rotan> you know /ect/hosts ?
[08:18] <Rotan> it's empty
[08:18] <aftertaf> anyone getting a dpkg segfault with the debtags package on dapper?
[08:18] <tritium> silwol, did your linux-restricted-modules get updated as well?
[08:18] <Rotan> */etc/hosts
[08:18] <silwol> tritium:  yes, everything got updated
[08:19] <silwol> tritium: the correct kernel module even loads using insmod
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       wicked1 <--- change the last value to your hostname
[08:19] <tritium> silwol, okay.  Have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:19] <silwol> tritium: but xorg wants to load it by itself again.
[08:19] <jknife> Nikyo, its a boot option press F1-F? at the boot screen till you see how to do it
[08:19] <Zedugh> chr1srv, no, i cant do it in a non-live system either
[08:19] <ubuntu> hello there ... im  linux-newbie  testing  ubuntu live cd,  looking for  some mac mod desktop
[08:19] <tritium> silwol, the kernel module is separate from the xserver
[08:20] <silwol> tritium: in the log file i just get the same error message that i get when the restricted-modules is not installed
[08:20] <Nikyo> AH.. I see.. like passing commands to the kernael..
[08:20] <Nikyo> got ya.. thanks
[08:20] <vegos> wma help
[08:20] <anavim> ubuntu, to go gnome-look.org
[08:20] <Nikyo> Have a good thnksgiving
[08:20] <anavim> er, go to..
[08:20] <Rotan> what about host.conf, hostname, and host.allow?
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> vegos, did you go to the link the bot gave ya ?
[08:20] <ubuntu> lets see
[08:20] <Rotan> but thank you so much, so fal, wickedpuppy
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, really ... you need all those ?
[08:20] <Rotan> *so far
[08:20] <tritium> silwol, are you sure your kernel and restricted-modules versions match?
[08:21] <silwol> tritium:  yes, they do.
[08:21] <Rotan> what SHOULD be in them?
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> i am wondering how you installed ubuntu
[08:21] <vegos> yeah
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, how did they get lost ?
[08:21] <vegos> but the files i have are wma
[08:21] <Rotan> i was messing around as root
[08:21] <Rotan> ...
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> vegos, synaptic and search for wma ... you might have luck
[08:21] <ubuntu> live cd
[08:21] <jknife> vegos, goto sf.net and search around
[08:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vegos about w32codecs
[08:21] <Rotan> i don't want to divulge the specifics
[08:21] <ubuntu> im runnig  a live cd
[08:21] <rage> Hey, is there a way to get the gnome keybindings to launch custom applications?
[08:21] <tritium> Rotan, a dangerous thing to do
[08:22] <ubuntu> this is  nice  !!!
[08:22] <Rotan> unless you need me to
[08:22] <vegos> nope
[08:22] <Rotan> cuz i could
[08:22] <vegos> nothing in synaptic
[08:22] <ubuntu> just  got the cd into  the tray  and ...
[08:22] <jknife> ubotu, click on the lower left hand side where it says "Ubuntu" and change your name please
[08:22] <ubotu> jknife: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:22] <nickrud> vegos, I've heard of an wma plugin for xmms; you might find it on google
[08:22] <jknife> ubuntu, , click on the lower left hand side where it says "Ubuntu" and change your name please
[08:22] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, both host.allow and host.deny can be empty
[08:23] <Rotan> ok
[08:23] <Rotan> good
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> paste these two in host.conf
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> order hosts,bind
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> multi on
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> thats it
[08:23] <Rotan> so what should be in hostname and host.conf?
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> hostname if your hostname
[08:23] <jknife> Rotan, wtf did you do?
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> put ya hostname there
[08:24] <vegos> i found one for rhythmbox but when i ./configure it says something about needing development package
[08:24] <vegos> any ideas?
[08:24] <Rotan> ok
[08:24] <Rotan> i'm good
[08:24] <Rotan> thank you SO much
[08:24] <Rotan> ...
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[08:24] <ubuntu> wher is it ?
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> pls stop abusing root :P
[08:24] <ubuntu> in this window ?
[08:24] <jknife> vegos, apt-get make-dep <pkg name>
[08:25] <jknife> yes
[08:25] <Rotan> now to get out of this crappy os ang into ... wait...
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> jknife, why ask him to change nick may i ask ?
[08:25] <tritium> jknife, build-dep?
[08:25] <vegos> but what package?
[08:25] <Rotan> can someone tell me how to get modem support?
[08:25] <jknife> to the left of the input box
[08:25] <ubuntu_> .-
[08:25] <ubuntu> done
[08:25] <morphix> does anyone know of any guides to configuring samba(for network sharing) using terminal?
[08:25] <jknife> tritium, im not sure i usally do both
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> samba.org
[08:25] <nickrud> vegos, that apt-get build-dep rhythmbox will pull in all the rythmbox dev packages for you
[08:26] <Rotan> *listens intently*
[08:26] <nickrud> buy an external
[08:26] <tritium> jknife, make-dep is not a valid option
[08:26] <jknife> like i said i try both
[08:26] <nickrud> Rotan, what kind?
[08:27] <Rotan> intel
[08:27] <newbuntu> hehehe
[08:27] <nickrud> don't know that one
[08:27] <tritium> Well, you need not try it any more, since it doesn't do anything
[08:27] <Rotan> ...
[08:27] <newbuntu> thx
[08:27] <jknife> "new humanity to others"
[08:27] <Rotan> but an external one should be supported?
[08:27] <nickrud> Rotan, yes, and transparently
[08:28] <Rotan> what do you mean trasparently?
[08:28] <nickrud> *just works
[08:29] <newbuntu> can you tell me where can i find  information about  ubuntu in spanish ?
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> !es
[08:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:30] <kubuntu_guy> sr any link that can help me in setup a samba and ldap authentication
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> kubuntu_guy, samba.org and google
[08:31] <Llewxam> hmm... it works. yay. fixed it.
[08:31] <_> can you upgrade from debian sid to breezy?
[08:31] <kubuntu_guy> thanks
[08:31] <jknife> _, yes
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> isn't sid the unstable ?
[08:32] <bobessutio> jknife: is there something online?
[08:32] <bobessutio> jknife: instructions?
[08:32] <Rotan> dangit
[08:32] <jknife> ?
[08:32] <Rotan> why isn't there support for my modem?
[08:32] <Rotan> and why can't i dig up my external?
[08:32] <jknife> ohh just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to be ubuntu locs
[08:33] <bobessutio> jknife: thanks!!
[08:33] <nickrud> bob2, that is probably a downgrade now
[08:33] <tritium> Rotan, how does one answer such questions?
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> tritium, how does one answer such questions ?
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> :P
[08:34] <Rotan> not with another question
[08:34] <nickrud> bobessutio, that's a downgrade, sorry
[08:34] <crimsun> Rotan: the point is that your questions are meaningless without additional information.
[08:34] <bobessutio> nickrud??
[08:34] <tritium> wickedpuppy, :)
[08:34] <Rotan> anyone know anything about cedega?
[08:34] <nickrud> bobessutio, sid has newer packages than breezy
[08:34] <jknife> bobessutio, dont do brezzy do dapper
[08:35] <aloysius> hi, i have a radeon 9250 which i cant get drivers to install for on breezy 64...anyone know how?
[08:35] <Rotan> i have an internal intel 56k data fax voice modem
[08:35] <Rotan> do you need mobo specs?
[08:35] <crimsun> jknife: uh please don't recommend that unless you're willing to support the modular X.org FTBFS that we have going on atm
[08:35] <jknife> hes using sid
[08:35] <jknife> :|
[08:36] <ubuntu> bloody reiserFS doesn't want to resize ><
[08:36] <crimsun> Rotan: we need lspci -vv and lspci -nv (don't paste in here) output
[08:36] <jknife> paste in #freebsd
[08:36] <jknife> j/k
[08:36] <Rotan> i don't know what that means
[08:36] <crimsun> Rotan: and of course I presume you've already trawled the Web?
[08:36] <Rotan> yea
[08:36] <Whitynz> I want to get it fromm being a 50gb partition to 15gb
[08:37] <Rotan> There are 4 steps in this howto:
[08:37] <Rotan> sorry
[08:37] <Rotan> ignore that
[08:37] <n0dl> which is a better MTA Sendmail or Postfix?
[08:37] <Rotan> there are 4 steps, and three of them require that i both be in ubuntu and have an internet connection
[08:37] <Rotan> wait
[08:37] <nickrud> lol
[08:38] <Rotan> 2 require that
[08:38] <mrkoje> I think sendmail is harder to setup
[08:38] <crimsun> n0dl: generally postfix is used more readily
[08:38] <crimsun> "better" is entirely subjective
[08:38] <nickrud> Rotan, some very nice instructions :)
[08:38] <Rotan> yea
[08:38] <mrkoje> sendmail probably has more functionality for an enterprise solution...
[08:38] <n0dl> cool
[08:38] <n0dl> well its more for personal use
[08:38] <aloysius> noone knows about radeon drivers?
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[08:39] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:39] <Rotan> maybe i'll hook up one of my old wintendows and connect through it
[08:39] <mrkoje> Aloysius:
[08:39] <Whitynz> fucking reiser
[08:39] <anavim> nintendos?
[08:39] <tritium> Whitynz, please watch the language
[08:39] <Whitynz> sorry
[08:39] <mrkoje> Aloysius: you will have to get the ATI drivers from http://www.ati.com
[08:40] <aloysius> mrkoje: i tried that
[08:40] <tritium> mrkoje, no
[08:40] <mrkoje> Aloysius: Whats your problem then/
[08:40] <mrkoje> tritum: no what?
[08:40] <Rotan> would this work: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html
[08:40] <mrkoje> tritium: no what?
[08:41] <pbransford> Does Hoary have a firewall?
[08:41] <Whitynz> So anyone got any suggesions on how to resize a reiser partition (I'm on the live cd atm)
[08:41] <Madpilot> aloysius: the ATI drivers in the Ubuntu repos work, at least here - I've got a 9600XT 256Mb
[08:41] <aloysius> they install fine, both from ati driver and the apt-gotten binary....but they crash when i reboot
[08:41] <tritium> mrkoje, don't advise ati.com, please, when there are drivers in ubuntu repositories
[08:41] <linux-se-nybo> hi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection
[08:41] <aloysius> Madpilot: are u using amd64?
[08:41] <pbransford> I hope there is a firewall of some kind. oh wait... dur! isnt it part of the kernel?
[08:41] <aloysius> tritium: but the repository drivers dont work?
[08:41] <Madpilot> aloysius: no, K7 here
[08:41] <pbransford> Does this distro have a nice GUI for it?
[08:42] <tritium> aloysius, they do
[08:42] <sedat> I love u ubuntu
[08:42] <cafuego> pbransford: All kids of GUIs that are as nice as you care to make them.
[08:42] <anavim> pbransford, yes
[08:42] <Madpilot> pbransford: it's got the lastest Gnome
[08:42] <aloysius> tritium: not for me they dont! :(
[08:42] <raingrove> pbransford, try firestarter
[08:42] <mrkoje> not for ati
[08:42] <aloysius> and im not alone
[08:42] <linux-se-nybo> hi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection
[08:42] <tritium> aloysius, are you on a 64-bit machine?
[08:42] <mrkoje> ATI drivers are proprierty drivers... can only be downloaded at ATI.com
[08:42] <aloysius> yup
[08:43] <raingrove> ati drivers are crap
[08:43] <pbransford> thanks guys
[08:43] <morphix> does anyone know of any guides to configuring samba(for network sharing) using terminal? (samba.org is no help btw)
[08:43] <mrkoje> at least thats what I foundout
[08:43] <devnul> ATI makes crap
[08:43] <pbransford> used firestarter before, forgot about it :D
[08:43] <tritium> mrkoje, no, they're packaged for ubuntu in the restricted repo
[08:43] <Madpilot> mrkoje: there are ATI drivers in the Ubuntu repos
[08:43] <aloysius> devnul: thanks for your help :/
[08:43] <cafuego> I hear the latest drivers from ati.com will work much better on amd64 than the pre-built ones. It might be worth trying them.
[08:43] <raingrove> i wish my laptop had a geforce instead
[08:43] <anavim> pbransford, go to gnome-look.org for screenshots of what it looks like
[08:43] <mrkoje> sweet... well apt-get didn't fetch them for me
[08:43] <raingrove> mrkoje, it's called fglrx
[08:43] <mrkoje> :(
[08:43] <devnul> aloysius, what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <mrkoje> thanks
[08:43] <Madpilot> !tell mrkoje about ati
[08:44] <devnul> aloysius, i missed your message.
[08:44] <pbransford> anavim, i have it installed, i was just looking for the firewall configurator (just stopped using suse, hehe)
[08:44] <raingrove> mrkoje,  i am not sure whether it's xorg-fglrx or xorg-driver-fglrx.. search in synaptic or somethijng
[08:44] <cafuego> El_Che: on i386 or amd64?
[08:44] <aloysius> install fglrx driver on my amd64 breezy install....
[08:44] <devnul> Is it a radeon card?
[08:44] <pbransford> BTW, for future reference
[08:44] <aloysius> hehe yeh sure is
[08:44] <pbransford> can anyone throw me a link about moving from 5.04 to the latest breezy?
[08:44] <devnul> what model
[08:44] <mrkoje> you ubuntu guys are pretty hardcore about your package managers
[08:44] <linux-se-nybo> hi does anyone of you use pppoe internet connection
[08:44] <aloysius> 9250
[08:44] <cafuego> !hoary->breezy
[08:45] <Madpilot> !tell pbransford about breezyupgrade
[08:45] <cafuego> aloysius: The 9250 should work OK with the free drivers.
[08:45] <devnul> the r200 driver from xorg 6.9 runs much faster
[08:45] <tritium> !attack of the killer exclamation points!
[08:45] <ubotu> Not a clue, tritium
[08:45] <aloysius> cafuego: you mean the ones from the ubuntu repos?
[08:45] <cafuego> !!!
[08:45] <ubotu> from memory, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[08:45] <devnul> fglrx is basicly for your 9800 and above.
[08:45] <pbransford> thanks Madpilot
[08:45] <cafuego> aloysius: xorg-driver-ati (not fglrx)
[08:46] <linux-se-nybo> where can i read about installin internet on ubuntu
[08:46] <aloysius> cheers!
[08:46] <kaha> Losing my mind over this stoopid vid card (sapphire radeon 9200 se).
[08:46] <raingrove> fglrx driver sucks
[08:46] <Madpilot> pbransford: np
[08:46] <cafuego> aloysius: IF the x config asks, make it use the 'ati' driver and you should be fine.
[08:46] <mrkoje> raingrove: if fglrx is the driver for ati cards... what is better
[08:46] <cafuego> kaha: Got a 9200se here, works nicely.
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is a .rar file?
[08:47] <kaha> xorg-driver-ati locks up my X in most games (tuxracer, UT, NWN), and I can't get the fglrx drivers to work in Breezy.  :(
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> some kind of archive?
[08:47] <Madpilot> raingrove: it works fine here, I've got 3d accel at a good rate and the works...
[08:47] <sedat> the day when I can play battlefield 2 on ubuntu I will delete windows on my pc
[08:47] <raingrove> alot of apps
[08:47] <mrkoje> Cafuego: my xorg didn't like the ati driver for my x700
[08:47] <raingrove> such as celestia
[08:47] <raingrove> dont work with fglrx
[08:47] <raingrove> fglrx also breaks suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk
[08:47] <Madpilot> BROKEN_LADDER: it's an archive, like a .zip
[08:47] <mrkoje> raingrove: i see
[08:48] <raingrove> i hate ati
[08:48] <kaha> cafuego: mine works fine, unless I load a game. Not sure why; the fglrx drivers worked fine in Hoary
[08:48] <cafuego> mrkoje: That's ebcause it's too new. CHeck docs on whether hardware works BEFORE buying the hardware.
[08:48] <SookSeSiah> any one install ubuntu on Dell inspiron 6000? How can I use the modem?
[08:49] <cafuego> kaha: That's crappy, mine runs ppracer and stuff just fine (it's in a mac mini)
[08:49] <kaha> hrm
[08:49] <aloysius> i might have to save up and buy an nvidia card...the 9250 was only $30 new and i got it as a stopgap...turns out its a pain in arse!
[08:49] <kaha> cafuego: with mesa or fglrx?
[08:49] <linux-se-nybo> where can i read about installin internet on ubuntu
[08:49] <ke__> set theme foo.theme
[08:49] <ke__> Oups
[08:50] <raingrove> we should all boycott ati
[08:50] <raingrove> until they make proper drivers
[08:50] <cafuego> kaha: mesa
[08:50] <raingrove> nvidia drivers are good
[08:50] <mrkoje> Caguego: it's actually on a winxp machine that crashed. I ended up using ubuntu live and modded xorg.conf to use vesa
[08:50] <cafuego> kaha: Honestly, atio can't make amd64 work right, I have _NO_ hope for them on powerpc at all.
[08:50] <raingrove> (relatively i mean)
[08:50] <mrkoje> cafuego: or somthing like that
[08:50] <aloysius> yeh i had nvidia on my old system under hoary and it worked beautifully
[08:51] <cafuego> kaha: I personally have an nvidia card now (switched to it from Matrox, which has ALWAYS worked EXACTLY right)
[08:51] <kaha> cafuego: I like the Mesa drivers better than fglrx. But when I launch ppracer or UT, the display locks up hard within seconds. Did in Hoary, as well.
[08:51] <cafuego> kaha: Does the card have a fan?
[08:51] <kaha> cafuego: no.
[08:52] <cafuego> Ok, so it's not a broken fan then :-)
[08:52] <aloysius> kaha: what card is it?
[08:52] <kaha> cafuego: I wanna go on ebay and score a card (games, general use). What do you recommend I look for?
[08:54] <kaha> aloysius: it's a Sapphire radeon 9200SE
[08:55] <cafuego> kaha: go for any nvidia card
[08:55] <pbransford> when setting a rule in firestarter, i can set a range of ports right?
[08:55] <cafuego> kaha: mine's a 5700TDH and it works fine under amd64.
[08:55] <kaha> cafuego: which do you recommend?
[08:56] <kaha> ah
[08:56] <cafuego> kaha: I don't keep track of what's out... just bought this one when I thought my old oen had died (turned out the mobo had actually melted)
[08:56] <cafuego> kaha: Then buying a high-end card isn't going to do much.
[08:56] <kaha> cafuego: holy krap
[08:57] <cafuego> kaha: Any plans on upgrading the cpu anytime soon?
[08:57] <cafuego> kaha: http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png
[08:57] <n0dl> exit
[08:57] <kaha> cafuego: not majorly. What cards should I look for?
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> kaha, if you absolutely must have a card name from this chan ... take this ... nvidia fx 5500
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> i am using it
[08:57] <kaha> cafuego: gotcha
[08:58] <cafuego> kaha: Any midrange AGP nvidia card should be a good match for your cpu.
[08:59] <kaha> cafuego: looking at picture... chernobyl!
[08:59] <cafuego> kaha: :-)
[08:59] <cafuego> kaha: The rest of the system was fine, it's got a new mobo now and runs happily.
[09:00] <Rotan> ...
[09:00] <kaha> cafuego: the fx 5500 would be good in my old crate?
[09:00] <Rotan> looked at linmodems.whatever.whatever...
[09:00] <Rotan> no help
[09:00] <Rotan> well... little help
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> Rotan, you are still here ...
[09:00] <Rotan> got some output file
[09:00] <Rotan> yea...
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> i go read agatha christie books ... the one with the belgium detective :P
[09:01] <ilba7r> anyone know what is the command that the logout button call in gnome?
[09:01] <cafuego> kaha: Yeah, should be around $70 from that I can tell and ought to give you 1) stability and 2) better framerates :-)
[09:01] <nadia007> trying to mount a drive, how can I tell what which hd it goes to?
[09:01] <kaha> cafuego: Right on! Thanks for the help. (getting tired of ATI-Land)
[09:01] <silwol> tritium: i just got it running. worked after a apt-get --purge --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686
[09:02] <cafuego> :-)
[09:02] <wickers> ok, quick question, how do you guys fight linux addiction?
[09:02] <ilba7r> nadia007 can you be more specific
[09:02] <wickers> 'cause I'm currently depressed, or in a form of depression, and being adicted to linux is only distracting me from getting better.
[09:03] <ilba7r> mount deivce directory
[09:03] <Rotan> wickers...
[09:03] <nadia007> I've got a second drive slave.  trying to mount it.  mount /dev/hdb1 /tunes but I get a filesystem error
[09:03] <Rotan> honestly...
[09:03] <Rotan> i dont fight it
[09:03] <nadia007> I've used hdb1 before, but now seems it doesn
[09:03] <nadia007> like it.
[09:04] <Rotan> wickers, have you been addicted to other distros?
[09:04] <wickers> Rotan, it's linux in general.. or computing in general...
[09:04] <Rotan> and speaking of addiction, has anyone ever been addicted to synaptic...
[09:04] <snadge> ubuntu doesnt seem to force reiserfs root partition to replay journal because its mounted read only.. is this a problem? (unclean shutdown)
[09:04] <renedox> addicted to synaptic?
[09:04] <wickers> I donno... not the right # I guess
[09:05] <Rotan> because there was a piont that i was installing about 200 packages a day
[09:05] <Rotan> every day
[09:05] <Rotan> for weeks
[09:05] <renedox> lol
[09:05] <wickers> in the end, I'm just holding out till I can go to consoling.
[09:05] <renedox> that must require a lot of hard drive space...
[09:05] <wickers> I just wish I could distract myself wtih something more healthy..
[09:05] <Rotan> i added extra repositories and kept d/ling until i reached a system instability so bad i had to reinstall the whole thing
[09:05] <nadia007> I did have to force an unclean shutdown.
[09:06] <renedox> lol
[09:06] <renedox> nice
[09:06] <Rotan> damn the marliatt and sid repositories
[09:06] <nadia007> how can I correct the issue and be able to remount it?
[09:06] <Rotan> masturbation has been linked to a decreased risk of testicular cancer
[09:06] <Rotan> ...
[09:06] <wickers> Then my odds are good.
[09:07] <Rotan> so technically, you're better off wackin off
[09:07] <renedox> lol
[09:07] <wickers> exactly
[09:07] <nadia007> anyone?
[09:07] <joft> another study found no correlation between masturbation and risk for testicular cancer
[09:08] <Rotan> can you show me that study, joft?
[09:08] <Rotan> sorry, it was prostate cancer
[09:09] <Rotan> still...
[09:09] <aspro> most peoples objections to masturbation arent physical though...
[09:09] <Rotan> better beatin off than months of anal probing
[09:10] <mrkoje> Rotan: man whakinit
[09:10] <joft> this site has some scientifically based reasons behind their ideology of practicing non-orgasmic sex (and no masturbation I guess) http://reuniting.info/
[09:10] <mrkoje> lol
[09:10] <jgonzalez> hi
[09:10] <Rotan> non-orgasmic sex...
[09:10] <jgonzalez> i have a problem with ubuntu apt sources
[09:11] <Rotan> isn't that like.... trench warfare?
[09:11] <jgonzalez> from yesterday always  the same message in apt-get update
[09:11] <jgonzalez> Imposible obtener http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  La suma MD5 difiere
[09:11] <jgonzalez> Imposible obtener http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  La suma MD5 difiere
[09:11] <jgonzalez> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[09:11] <jgonzalez> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[09:11] <jgonzalez> W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
[09:11] <jgonzalez> what could happend ?
[09:11] <tritium> Rotan, please keep on topic
[09:11] <Rotan> sorry
[09:11] <Rotan> anywho...
[09:11] <Rotan> can someone help me config my modem?
[09:12] <Rotan> :)
[09:12] <joft> here are two articles about the prostate cancer thing: http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/64/14/4774   http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/gca?allch=&SEARCHID=1085521603701_6621&FULLTEXT=frequency%2Bof%2Bsex%2Bprostate%2Bcancer&JOURNALCODE=&FIRSTINDEX=0&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&gca=jama%3B291%2F13%2F1578&allchb=
[09:12] <tritium> joft, not here, please
[09:13] <devnul> .ver devnul
[09:13] <mrkoje> jgonzalez: feliz dia acciones de gracias
[09:14] <painkiler> how do i make my self sudo most of the time?
[09:14] <tritium> painkiler, sudo -i
[09:15] <pawan> trying to mount my usb drive in breezy. I have these modules : usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[09:15] <devnul> ahhh better
[09:15] <painkiler> will this alow me to be sudo out of the shell?
[09:15] <devnul> stupid power management
[09:15] <tritium> painkiler, no
[09:15] <pawan> fdisk -l shows no sda/b
[09:16] <painkiler> its really anoying, this whole root, non-root thing
[09:16] <painkiler> i can access my files on my windows box, but i cant play my music folders...
[09:16] <painkiler> is there a program to read the itunes stream?
[09:17] <pawan> oh. needed to reinsert, and magically did its stuff
[09:17] <painkiler> cause none of my tunes work on my ubuntu box... well they do, but its hard to open them every time...
[09:17] <gp> Anyone know why Cedega says it can't find 'python'; even though the file exists?
[09:18] <painkiler> xbmc is built on mplayer, and that reads the itunes feed...
[09:18] <painkiler> there must be something out there.
[09:19] <painkiler> or should i just start a shoutcast feed...
[09:19] <painkiler> can i select the tracks i want on a shoutcast feed>
[09:19] <painkiler> *?
[09:21] <painkiler> could someone point me to a site?:
[09:21] <Rotan> man...
[09:21] <Rotan> i wish intel modems were supported out of the box
[09:22] <zygis> anyone knows what has happened with X in dapper? somehow all drivers are b0rked :)
[09:22] <Rotan> is there a package i can just install to make this work through apt-get?
[09:33] <RQ> hey
[09:34] <RQ> how come it's so silent? :)
[09:35] <RQ> i have an idea of a feature i believe would be very handy for laptop users, but i'm not sure where to propose it - here or on #xorg.
[09:36] <beginn3r> hai
[09:36] <beginn3r> i'm on Hoary Hedgehog
[09:36] <RQ> hi
[09:36] <beginn3r> and would like to try mono
[09:37] <beginn3r> but this is what I get when I tried to use apt-get to download it
[09:37] <beginn3r> E: Couldn't find package mono-devel
[09:37] <beginn3r> I thought
[09:38] <RQ> hm
[09:38] <beginn3r> I mean..from google search results
[09:38] <[Jonne] > maybe it's in universe or multiverse
[09:38] <beginn3r> I found that..that is the correct name for it
[09:38] <RQ> probably
[09:38] <beginn3r> I enabled all of them..
[09:38] <RQ> lemme check
[09:38] <beginn3r> ok
[09:38] <Seveas> beginn3r, if you want mono you MUST upgrade to breezy
[09:38] <beginn3r> thanks RQ
[09:38] <Seveas> mono on hoary is old, incomplete and buggy
[09:39] <beginn3r> Seveas it won't work on Hoary?
[09:39] <[Jonne] > and upgrading to breezy should be pretty painless, so you better do that
[09:39] <beginn3r> ok
[09:39] <beginn3r> thanks for the info
[09:39] <RQ> your welcome ;)
[09:52] <ignashoo> help? anyone?
[09:52] <St_Neurion> c.dynamix.com
[09:53] <ignashoo> help! anyone?
[09:53] <renedox> with what?
[09:53] <rob1> ignashoo, sure
[09:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> how are the ubuntu desktop settings specified when you start using a new account, and there are no customized settings files in your home?  where is the default ubuntu brown theme being specified at that point?  i want to change it at the system level.
[09:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> also, can i change my xscreensaver login box to get rid of the black face?
[09:53] <ignashoo> i'm new with Ubuntu, i have an xp installed in my system, can i install ubuntu without deleting xp?
[09:53] <renedox> BROKEN_LADDER: system -> preferences -> theme
[09:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox you missed my question.
[09:54] <renedox> and it's stored under .gnome
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox i'm talking about when you first start up and you have no theme settings yet.
[09:54] <renedox> or was it .gnome2
[09:54] <RQ> ignashoo, tes
[09:54] <RQ> yes
[09:54] <RQ> BROKEN_LADDER, there are defaults :)
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox if you delete EVERYTHING in your home directory, and start into gnome, you'll still have the "human" theme.  that's being specified somewhere above home.
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> RQ and where are those defined?!
[09:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> heh
[09:55] <renedox> why do you need to know where they are stored?
[09:55] <RQ> BROKEN_LADDER, /etc/gnome/ maybe? ;)
[09:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> renedox to change them.
[09:55] <renedox> ...
[09:55] <gp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?
[09:56] <zygis> RQ: kas su X'ais? :)
[09:56] <RQ> zygis, yr idja :)
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> no one told that guy that installing grub will destroy the windows boot
[09:57] <RQ> privat
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> hopefully grub lets you choose windows partitions..
[09:57] <RQ> BROKEN_LADDER, oops :)
[09:57] <chriswk> has an HPimage of breezy come out yet?
[09:57] <RQ> he never asked anout it :)
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've been coming in here asking this question for weeks, and no one seems to know. arghhhh
[09:57] <RQ> *about
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> how does one customize/change the look of the xscreensaver login promt?
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> prompt
[09:58] <pebs> does anyone know how to setup dosemu?
[09:59] <b0uncer> ./dosemu -setup f00!
[09:59] <b0uncer> surely not like that
[09:59] <b0uncer> :)
[09:59] <rob1> BROKEN_LADDER, you could try asking about the default theme in #ubuntu-devel
[09:59] <rob1> pebs, try qemu instead
[09:59] <pebs> does qemu come with any freedos version or somethin?
[09:59] <rob1> qemu is gpl free
[10:00] <rob1> pebs, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[10:00] <pebs> i've got dosemu up and running, and after adding the freedos package, it even tries to boot
[10:00] <gp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?
[10:00] <b0uncer> rob1, "gpl-free" or "gpl, thus free"?
[10:00] <pebs> nut it shows this error
[10:00] <pebs> C: HD1 Pri:1 CHS=    0-1-1 start =     0MB,size =  392
[10:00] <pebs> Kernel: allocated 41 Diskbuffers = 21812 Bytes in HMA
[10:00] <pebs> [dosemu EMS 4.0 driver installed] 
[10:00] <pebs> ERROR: cpu exception in dosemu code outside of VM86()!
[10:00] <pebs> trapno: 0x0e  errorcode: 0x00000004  cr2: 0x468a5b2d
[10:00] <pebs> eip: 0x468a5b2d  esp: 0xbf9dffc5  eflags: 0x00010286
[10:00] <pebs> cs: 0x0073  ds: 0x007b  es: 0x007b  ss: 0x007b
[10:00] <pebs> Page fault: read instruction to linear address: 0x468a5b2d
[10:00] <pebs> CPU was in user mode
[10:00] <crimsun> whoa
[10:00] <pebs> Exception was caused by non-available page
[10:00] <rob1> b0uncer, gpl thus free
[10:01] <crimsun> please don't flood in here
[10:01] <pebs> /usr/bin/dosemu: line 218:  8831 Violacin de segmento  $SUDO $BINARY $XFLAG "$@"
[10:01] <b0uncer> rob1, ok :)
[10:01] <b0uncer> food ->
[10:01] <pebs> sorry bout that
[10:01] <rob1> pebs, qemu is like vmware but gpled
[10:01] <pebs> i tried vmware but installing it was like hell
[10:02] <pebs> ill give qemu a go
[10:02] <pebs> thnx
[10:02] <rob1> np
[10:02] <rob1> pebs, qemu is in the ubuntu repos so to install it just do: sudo apt-get install qemi
[10:03] <rob1> s/qemi/qemu
[10:03] <pebs> ok
[10:03] <pebs> ;)
[10:09] <zygis> what's the voodoo spell to unb0rk X in dapper?
[10:09] <RQ> :)))
[10:09] <rob1> install the correct drivers
[10:09] <crimsun> revert to the previous carnation.
[10:09] <crimsun> what you want is 6.8.2-77
[10:09] <pavelich> i am hammerd i just walked from my friend s house and its 2 and a half miles away\
[10:09] <crimsun> we should have most of the drivers building within the next 30 mins
[10:09] <pavelich> so col
[10:09] <pavelich> d
[10:09] <pavelich> chicago
[10:09] <zygis> ah :)
[10:09] <zygis> good
[10:10] <crimsun> hint: always use aptitude to upgrade, not dist-upgrade
[10:10] <bolrod> why
[10:10] <pavelich> i lobe ubuntu
[10:10] <Mabus06> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[10:10] <RQ> the interface is different
[10:11] <rob1> that opens a can of worms..
[10:11] <pavelich> crimsun i rember you dude hes a cool kid, knows his stuff
[10:11] <crimsun> I noticed that xserver-xorg-core has been held back due to the drivers ftbfs, so it never upgraded xserver-xorg-core or any of the drivers, thus I wasn't bitten by the bug that zygis just described.
[10:11] <bolrod> hrm
[10:11] <bolrod> dist-upgrade should fix that
[10:11] <pavelich> ubuntu is the way to go, knows hardware drivers
[10:11] <bolrod> apt-get upgrade doesn't take those things to seriously
[10:11] <crimsun> bolrod: it will fix it when the drivers are available
[10:12] <bolrod> there is a difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade right
[10:12] <pavelich> yo happy thanksgivvin
[10:12] <bolrod> :)
[10:12] <crimsun> bolrod: otherwise if you slam through a dist-upgrade you'll end up with the precise issue that zygis described
[10:12] <pavelich> typinmg is hard
[10:12] <bolrod> I havent read what he described
[10:12] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: hi
[10:12] <zygis> yeah, kids, don't do this at home
[10:12] <nads> hi guys.... i messed up and edited grub's menu.lst wrong... so now during bootup it crashes to busybox. I know exactly what i did wrong... is there a way i could edit menu.lst from busybox?
[10:13] <fonsk3n> boot with a live cd, nads
[10:13] <pavelich> i am  dominatingh gnotertris right now
[10:13] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: sorry, I don't follow #ubuntu ATM (I just react to highlights, and I'm not the gnome master)
[10:13] <nads> is livecd the only way fonsk3n?
[10:13] <foxiness> what i need to login to my phpmyadmin "ubuntu 5.10 local" ?
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> THANKS
[10:14] <fearl> Any ops around?
[10:14] <RQ> nads,
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> all your settings are belong to us?
[10:14] <nads> cause i don't have a cdwriter
[10:14] <RQ> nads, you can edit grub options in grub itself
[10:14] <nads> RQ: where is that?
[10:14] <RQ> get to the grub menu
[10:14] <RQ> then press E
[10:14] <RQ> on the line which you want to boot
[10:15] <RQ> that'll open it's options dialog. Press E again to edit the options you want
[10:15] <pppoe_dude> so how safe is psi with my gpg key? will it do any funny stuff?
[10:15] <RQ> when you've done, press B
[10:15] <searcher`> foxiness: any valid mysql user
[10:15] <nads> really? i figured it wouldn't be possible....
[10:15] <nads> i'll try it out now
[10:15] <nads> thanks :)
[10:15] <searcher`> foxiness: if you just installed, `root' without a password will do it
[10:15] <RQ> nads, unless GRUB itself is broken
[10:15] <blodka> can azureus work on ubuntu live CD 5.10 ?
[10:15] <nads> grub works... but it doesn't load the right kernel module
[10:15] <foxiness> searcher`, indeed :)
[10:15] <bolrod> nasty
[10:15] <bolrod> :)
[10:15] <nads> i'll be right back, hopefully from ubuntu :)
[10:16] <bolrod> blodka: possibly... I dont know why not
[10:16] <blodka> thinking maybe it uses a different java
[10:16] <foxiness> searcher`, it work now :) thank you Rimas
[10:16] <bolrod> different java?....
[10:16] <bolrod> I think you only need 1.4 for azureus
[10:17] <blodka> which java do i have on the LIVE CD 5.1 ?
[10:17] <bolrod> I dont know
[10:17] <bolrod> do you have java at all?
[10:17] <blodka> dunno
[10:17] <bolrod> open a terminal and try  java --version
[10:17] <bolrod> or something
[10:17] <bolrod> hrm
[10:17] <fearl> !ubotu ops
[10:17] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[10:17] <blodka> i wish there was a way to save your settings on the LIVE version
[10:18] <searcher`> foxiness: make sure you change that empty root password though if someone else can get to the database
[10:18] <blodka> i could copy some settings to a usb drive,
[10:18] <blodka> but, I'd have to write a script to copy them back when i reboot
[10:18] <rob1> fearl, why don't you just spit out whatever your problem is?
[10:18] <bolrod> 'java -version' works
[10:18] <foxiness> when i try to install phpmyadmin it installed php4 when i have php5 and i see the dep and need php4 | php5 .... is this | = or and take the first one or what
[10:18] <blodka> k
[10:18] <pavelich> in chicago its about 20 degrees right niow and i just walked 3 miles from my buddies place
[10:19] <fearl> rob1: because its not related to the channel in general  :/
[10:19] <rob1> fearl, msg them direct then
[10:19] <rob1> otherwise its off topic
[10:19] <fearl> rob1: trying  :/
[10:19] <bolrod> 20 degrees is how cold?
[10:19] <pavelich> foxiness: look for a new tar.gz
[10:20] <bolrod> :>
[10:20] <fearl> bolrod: about -5 or so
[10:20] <bolrod> aha
[10:20] <foxiness> searcher`, i forget where the file need to change this ^_^
[10:20] <bolrod> its 2 C here
[10:20] <blodka> i don't think this java will work for azureus
[10:20] <bolrod> its still morning though
[10:20] <bolrod> blodka: why not?
[10:20] <bolrod> what version
[10:20] <blodka> it's hmmm
[10:20] <Fufachew> Is there a locale that shows temperature in Kelvin? That i'm dying for
[10:21] <blodka> now i see that it is 1.4.2
[10:21] <bolrod> well
[10:21] <blodka> maybe is ok
[10:21] <bolrod> check what you need for azureus
[10:21] <bolrod> I think it will do fine
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i give different permissions to a file for different groups.
[10:21] <roy_> 
[10:21] <blodka> this live CD is better than the Gentoo
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> roy_ chami nan chung!
[10:21] <blodka> more stuff works out of the box
[10:21] <fearl> BROKEN_LADDER: read up on acl's with linux...
[10:21] <blodka> even samba was pretty easy
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> roy_ fo do dung hai shi soo wai
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> access control lists?
[10:22] <fearl> BROKEN_LADDER: yeah
[10:22] <bolrod> probably
[10:22] <bolrod> there is no real other way I think
[10:22] <fearl> BROKEN_LADDER: thats kinda the point of them...
[10:22] <blodka> i'm hoping to make mplayer work too ---  but it is a pita so far
[10:22] <juliux> morning
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> roy_ eni chi shun no wai gai genzhou
[10:22] <bolrod> blodka: hehe.. mplayer on a live cd?
[10:22] <anav1m> is there an easy way to make tar -xvf *.tar work, or do I have to write a script to handle it?
[10:22] <blodka> lol
[10:22] <juliux> i am search for a dvd label for breezy, can some on help me?
[10:22] <bolrod> anav1m: erh
[10:23] <blodka> i think it can maybe work
[10:23] <fearl> blodka: apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-multiverse-plugins (last one might be wrong)
[10:23] <blodka> dunno  if i have multiverse hooked up yet
[10:24] <blodka> thanks -=---
[10:24] <blodka> i must go now .....
[10:24] <blodka> 'til late
[10:24] <anav1m> bolrod, you were saying?
[10:24] <bolrod> why should tar -xf *tar not work?
[10:25] <anav1m> bolrod, have you tried it?  it doesn't work
[10:25] <gp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4975; any ideas?
[10:25] <olicat> does anyone know if there is a command to tell me how much space is being used inside a directory?
[10:25] <fearl> blodka: apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is what I meant
[10:25] <bolrod> olicat: du
[10:25] <zygis> anav1m: for i in *.tar; do tar -xvf $i; done
[10:25] <bolrod> olicat: du -sh is probably easiest
[10:25] <anav1m> zygis, thx
[10:26] <nameeate1> can anyone help me out with a repository list for hoary?
[10:26] <CookedGryphon> hi, i'm running xfce (soooo much nicer than gnome or kde...apart from the rox file manager) and i ran nautilus instead of rox-filer, forgetting that it would take over the desktop if called as just nautilus, now xfdesktop won't start up anymore, can anyone give me any hints as to where i should look to re-enable it
[10:26] <fearl> nameeate1: what exactly do you want?
[10:26] <fearl> nameeate1: you're not being very clear...
[10:27] <zygis> CookedGryphon: you need to launch nautilus with --no-desktop
[10:27] <fearl> CookedGryphon: make sure nautilus isn't in your .xsession ... or /etc/X11/Xsession scripts...
[10:28] <nameeate1> a list of repo's for aptget for ubuntu hoary hedgehog
[10:28] <fearl> CookedGryphon: plus what zygis just said...
[10:28] <CookedGryphon> it doesn't run nautilus at startup any more, it jsut stopped running xfdesktop
[10:29] <zygis> CookedGryphon: have you tried running xfdesktop from terminal to see any output?
[10:29] <CookedGryphon> yep, it runs fine
[10:29] <`6og> does anyone know about chrooting proftpd?
[10:29] <roy_> hello.erverbody
[10:30] <fearl> nameeate1: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/   <-- all of those... 'deb url/path/to/directory/before/dists dist section
[10:30] <zygis> CookedGryphon: then readd it into your session
[10:30] <Madpilot> !repos
[10:30] <ubotu> [repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:30] <fearl> nameeate1: browse archive.ubuntu.com for a better understanding of that... and look at your current list...
[10:30] <Madpilot> nameeate1: see ubotu ^^^
[10:30] <nameeate1> thanks
[10:31] <fearl> Madpilot: thats not what he wants... he wants mirrors...
[10:32] <rsilva> Hello, there is a bug in the kernel in Ubuntu bugzilla whose status is PENDINGUPLOAD since 10/27th. Which is the best way to call attention to this? E-mail the responsible?
[10:32] <rsilva> Bug description: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18473
[10:32] <infralite> hello, doesanyone have any guides for installing enlightenment properlyunder ubuntu?
[10:32] <gp> Torrent program for Xubuntu?
[10:32] <infralite> gnome is taking over the desktop no matter how hard i try
[10:32] <zygis> rsilva: I'd suggest adding yet another comment for this bug
[10:33] <CookedGryphon> what's the best filemanager? I like rox's speed but the themes that i've got working look ugly, and nautilus is unbelievably slow
[10:33] <arnducky> ubotu, tell me about easysource
[10:33] <rob1> CookedGryphon, sh
[10:34] <rsilva> zygis: Yes, maybe I'll do that. I remember seeing some bug reports with many follow-ups with other people saying: I have the problem too.
[10:34] <CookedGryphon> rob1: lol fair point
[10:35] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: maybe you might want to turn of all the metacity effects?
[10:35] <CookedGryphon> but still, for when my fingers are tired n i'm feeling lazy, or my granny wants to use my computer, what's the best filemanager
[10:35] <CookedGryphon> robotgeek, no no, i like the effects n things, its just in comparison to rox nautilus is so much slower, and that's nothign to do with metacity
[10:35] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: rox was fast, but i never got used to it. i just use nautilus now
[10:36] <zygis> CookedGryphon: fpr the time being you won't find anything better than nautilus or rox
[10:36] <fearl> CookedGryphon: Nautilus spatial list view is my fav... not slow at all here...
[10:36] <zygis> s/fpr/for/
[10:36] <arnducky> Now that I've got all my gak installed an configured on Breezey for about five days, how do I upgrade to Dapper Duck so I can start fighting with things all over again?  (And is there an Ubuntu way to back up the old installation aside from third-party disk cloning tools?)
[10:36] <arnducky> =oD
[10:37] <infralite> any answers for me?
[10:37] <fearl> arnducky: change instances of breezy to dapper ... and dist-upgrade
[10:37] <zygis> arnducky: if you want end up being unable to start X, then just dist-upgrade right now
[10:37] <fearl> arnducky: I really don't think you want to do that though, if you don't know how already, you likely really shouldn't...
[10:37] <arnducky> fearl, that's all?  Just like going from Debian's Woody to Sarge or Etch?
[10:37] <gp> What is the name of a good torrent prog?
[10:37] <zygis> arnducky: absolutely
[10:37] <fearl> arnducky: umm... yeah...
[10:38] <fearl> arnducky: you are using the same tools here dude...
[10:38] <zygis> arnducky: but you have been warned! :)
[10:38] <fearl> arnducky: you expected them to make it harder just cuz its a derivative?
[10:38] <nameeate1> gp: rtorrent, torrentflux, bittornado etc, google/freshmeat/sourceforge
[10:38] <arnducky> what about debconf, gconf  and other pkg conf tools?
[10:39] <fearl> arnducky: debconf... yes... gconf is used by gnome, nothing to do with packages...
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> okay, update on my nautilus stopping xfdesktop, even when i run nautilus --no-desktop, it kills xfdesktop, i just hadn't noticed because the background pic stays
[10:39] <fearl> arnducky: I really don't think you should run a devel version...
[10:39] <arnducky> Things used to break when I would upgrade distros or even just mix apt sources) under GNU/Linux
[10:39] <arnducky> fearl, too late -- I'm running testing/unstable in another distro already -- heh
[10:40] <nameeate1>   /whois matthew
[10:40] <Madpilot> arnducky: mixing repos is not recommended...
[10:40] <zygis> CookedGryphon: it really kills it?
[10:40] <nameeate1> erm
[10:40] <arnducky> fearl, what do you thing you know about me?
[10:40] <fearl> arnducky: sid is more stable than dappy
[10:40] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: there's a gconf setting to disable nautilus from ever drawing the desktop
[10:40] <nads> thanks RQ, it worked :)
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> zygis: yep
[10:40] <CookedGryphon> robotgeek: ok, i'll have a look for that
[10:40] <arnducky> Madpilot, sometimes it was the only way to get packages or libs I wanted short of coding them (ewww -- icky coding!)
[10:40] <arnducky> ;-D
[10:41] <rajasun> arnducky: testing/unstablke? heh me on Unstable/Experimental in Debian and Dapper on Ubuntu ;-)
[10:41] <fearl> arnducky: compilation != coding  :/
[10:41] <CookedGryphon> robotgeek: oh, but what if i want to use gnome for some reason one day?
[10:41] <fearl> arnducky: just add a breezy-backports entry to sources.list   :/
[10:41] <zygis> CookedGryphon: restore the default setting? :)
[10:41] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: it just doesn't put the icons in. plus, you can restore the setting
[10:41] <arnducky> what about compiling?  (I said 'coding').
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> oooh, don't like changing settings jsut to use a different desktop
[10:42] <CookedGryphon> i try n get everythign to jsut work
[10:42] <Fufachew> where can i get sex? bash: sex: command not found
[10:42] <nads> i have another question... XMMS only plays mp3s from my windows' ntfs mount only after i play a song from the ext partition.. any idea why?
[10:42] <fearl> arnducky: I was correcting you... you needn't code anything to get the latest and greatest... just compile it for your environment... and voila
[10:42] <arnducky> I've got ANSI c, CGI  and Java hackers that I subcontract to when I *really* want something coded.
[10:43] <fearl> Fufachew: cliphunter.com is your best bet
[10:43] <MrFarts> nads, that's just bizarre
[10:43] <arnducky> fearl, you have no idea what I might or might not want -- heh.
[10:43] <zygis> Fufachew: you should be doing that in chrooted environment, privately
[10:43] <viviersf> why is 32bit mode off on the hdd by default in ubuntu
[10:43] <viviersf> ?
[10:43] <arnducky> ("Open mouth and remove foot", as they say -- hehehe)
[10:43] <arnducky> viviersf, it is?
[10:44] <nameeate1> how can i close a 'window' in irssi?
[10:44] <nads> farts i know... :) when i first try to load the mp3 from the windows partition it says "check that your soundcard is configured etc..."... afterwards it loads properly from the ext partition.... and then when i try the same file on the windows partition it works
[10:44] <Fufachew> chroot: cannot change root directory to sex: No such file or directory
[10:44] <viviersf> yes arnducky
[10:44] <fearl> nameeate1: /window close
[10:44] <viviersf> hdparm /dev/hda
[10:44] <nameeate1> thanks
[10:44] <viviersf> would give you 0 ( 16 bit )
[10:44] <arnducky> viviersf, in Breezey?!?
[10:44] <viviersf> yes
[10:44] <zygis> viviersf: try looking in /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:44] <viviersf> zygis, i uncommented the IO thing in there with no avail :/
[10:44] <arnducky> I hadn't noticed slow disk access, and I've got four ATA + 2 ATAPI devs
[10:45] <viviersf> arnducky, its not that slow cos dma is on
[10:45] <viviersf> but
[10:45] <arnducky> (/dev/sda for the fourth ATA-5 device -- I use an external USB 2.0 enclosure)
[10:45] <viviersf> doing hdparm -c3 /dev/hda etc
[10:45] <viviersf> will make speed much faster
[10:45] <arnducky> Still seek time to file must go WAAAY up
[10:46] <arnducky> viviersf, thatnks for the tip
[10:46] <nads> what command do i use to get the kernel version?
[10:46] <robotgeek> arnducky: would hdparm to a external usb enclosure work?
[10:46] <robotgeek> nads: uname -r
[10:46] <viviersf> arnducky, im trying to get that thing working on impi by default
[10:46] <viviersf> and i dont want to make my own rc script
[10:46] <viviersf> would rather try to fix it
[10:46] <rajasun> nads: uname -rsa
[10:46] <arnducky> I'd probably never though of checking to see if something so stupid is suboptimal
[10:46] <nads> cool
[10:47] <viviersf> why you laughing arnducky ?
[10:47] <robotgeek> arnducky: no, i don't know the answer to that. i am asking you if you have done it! i have a usb enclossure too, and it's slow :)
[10:47] <Tony327> ubuntu is in french???
[10:47] <viviersf> #ubuntu-fr
[10:48] <jose> hi all, anyone could help me mounting my ntfs in ubuntu?
[10:48] <RQ> jose, go to places > computer
[10:48] <jose> i cannot find any howto or tutorial, if you now a good one, i would be really thanksfull
[10:48] <arnducky> robotgeek, no idea, since I've never tried it.  My USB 1.1 (12MB/s at 'fullspeed' running off of Via UHCI chipset)is the bottleneck, so I've never bothered.  Plus the drive is just cloned partitions and backup images -- I use it for back-up instead of tapes or DVDs since it's less 'messy'
[10:48] <jose> ok
[10:49] <Madpilot> jose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:49] <Tony327> #ubuntu-fr
[10:49] <robotgeek> arnducky: same here :)
[10:49] <RQ> jose, ah right, i remember that :)) one of my friends has that issue
[10:49] <RQ> it's mounted but you cannot read it, right?
[10:49] <jose> no, it is not mounted
[10:49] <zygis> Tony327: /j #ubuntu-fr
[10:50] <jose> do i need to install any kernel module or it is already installed in ubuntu?
[10:50] <arnducky> robotgeek, I still try to keep my part'ns under 4.699 x10^9 Bytes though
[10:50] <jose> (i'm coming from fedora)
[10:50] <Madpilot> jose: the URL I gave you above should help...
[10:50] <robotgeek> arnducky: lol, kk
[10:50] <rajasun> jose: what Madpilot just told u. Scroll up
[10:50] <jose> ok, i will read that first
[10:50] <RQ> jose, no
[10:50] <jose> thanks
[10:52] <arnducky> I've got a dual layer burner now, but media is still too expensive for me and I only have doze32 apps for making spansets and compressed image files -- which I'm trying to wean myself off of (though I'm tempted to buyt Partition Magic 8.0 since it has better Ext3 support and even supports 'end-lusers' who want to dual/multi-boot with Linux)
[10:53] <olicat> bolrod, thanks
[10:53] <nameeate1> is blackbox or icebox better? I know somethings are personal opinion but iirc one of them was better supported
[10:53] <RQ> arnducky, what is the question? :D
[10:53] <arnducky> They have 'wizard' scripts that will help you to make all the mount points, resize your Winblows, mange the MBR, etc.   It's getting to the point where a total n00b could almost handle multi-boot.
[10:53] <viviersf> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:53] <viviersf> qemu is so slow
[10:54] <arnducky> RQ, no question.  Does therehave to be one?  I was just quacking at robotgeek.
[10:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is smeg called now?
[10:54] <RQ> ah
[10:55] <rajasun> alacarte
[10:55] <arnducky> I found gparted/parted to be somewhat buggy -- blank GTK2 errors with not even a hex addy
[10:56] <nameeate1> anyone know about old compaq deskpro's and no sound? :|
[10:56] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: N_LADDER> one last thing before i depart..  i suggest you guys make it so that when you log in on a new screen, and you're already logged in, that the password box from xscreensaver somehow be bypassed, to create the "illusion" of an xp-style multi-login system.
[10:56] <robotgeek> nameeate1: not to start a flamewar, i've never heard of icebox. blackbox is fine, fluxbox is great
[10:57] <pitti> BROKEN_LADDER: why do we need that? Unix window managers have provided multiple virtual desktops for years already
[10:57] <arnducky> I might install a static ~-dbg version if I can find it though and send some core dumps or whatever, because I think a free and open, 'self-hosted' dynamic partition manager would be akiller app for Linux to beat the hell out of anything they finally bundle with Longhorn
[10:57] <nameeate1> ahh that could be it, thanks for that
[10:57] <arnducky> (besides Symantec's licens just sucks the biscuit)
[10:57] <ex-parrot> how am I meant to get VLC to use GTK properly under Breezy? anyone?
[10:58] <ColD_7> what is the command in terminal to copy files to other location?
[10:58] <ex-parrot> ColD_7, 'cp'
[10:58] <arnducky> ex-parrot, that's a really general question, can you be more specific -- maybe even pastebin some error message you're getting?
[10:58] <chriswk> Anyone knows if 5.10 is compatible with the nc6120 out of the box or if an ISO of HPUbuntu of 5.10 is out yet? Can only find Hoary and already have that installed
[10:58] <dima202> Hello
[10:58] <ex-parrot> arnducky, it just doesn't look like other GTK apps, or like it did under Hoary/Warty
[10:58] <arnducky> uhhh... 'look' is a problem?
[10:59] <ex-parrot> not a big one no :P I'm just wondering why it's changed since the last release is all
[10:59] <dima202> I have a question about themes. I downloaded a theme for GAIM but how do I use it? How do I install it to GAIM? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[11:00] <Lardarse> does anyone here know why i am getting warnings whenever i try to update? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4978 is the warnings that i am getting
[11:00] <scanwinder> how do i start another X session in ubuntu? when i go ctrl-alt-F? and type in startx and it says sumthin about it says its already active on display 0
[11:00] <infralite> thatmeans x has not died yet
[11:00] <Lardarse> scanwinder: you mean restart X ?
[11:00] <jose> ok, thanks for the howto about ntfs, it is working perfectly!
[11:00] <infralite> kill -9 it
[11:00] <Lardarse> lol infralite
[11:01] <scanwinder> Ladarse: i dont want to kill the one i already have, i want 2 open
[11:01] <jose> i have another question... my system is not rebooting, i have to stop it manually
[11:01] <Lardarse> hmm...
[11:01] <jose> is there any way to reapir this?
[11:01] <Lardarse> scanwinder: i'll defer to an expert, then
[11:01] <jose> reapir = repair
[11:02] <arnducky>  AGP 8x or PCI Express x16 lane native support  <-- hmmm how can a card support both at the same time?
[11:02] <ironwolf> Formatting an xd memory card in ubuntu... mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1 (or correct device?) yes?
[11:02] <arnducky> Maybe they ship two versions?
[11:03] <RQ> vlc uses GTK1
[11:03] <RQ> bleh
[11:03] <RQ> which basically sucks a lot
[11:03] <scanwinder> anyone know how i can start a second instance of X? im trying to make it so i can switch 2 another one when i die in americas army because i cant minimize it
[11:03] <snadge> how come the latest breezy "security update" for the kernel, also gave me a working boot splash screen and also fixed a message log storm after resume from hibernation?? :P
[11:04] <arnducky> ex-parrot, have you treid asking the developers (or looking for/designing your own skin -- if that is supported)
[11:04] <pitti> snadge: we did not actually change any code for that
[11:04] <dima202> I see a lot of people are helping other people. But has anyone here installed a theme to gaim? Like this one: rfectly!
[11:04] <pitti> snadge: I suppose that the kernel upgrade triggered an initramfs rebuild, which was missing in your previous install
[11:04] <dima202> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[11:05] <pitti> snadge: we will fix this in dapper (automatic initramfs rebuild)
[11:05] <ex-parrot> arnducky,  of course not arnducky I just lept in to IRC to complain ;)
[11:05] <snadge> oh okay, i thought it a bit strange to complain about bonus fixes but that explains it
[11:07] <snadge> it was printing a lost interrupt message every 20ms, and generated a 300mb messages file ;)
[11:07] <arnducky> robotgeek, general question -- say you're running blackbox, fluxbox, icewm or some other WM and you exec a fullscreen mode x-program?  What happens to all the running processes and is it any different than if you are running under kde or gnome with kdm+kicker+kde or gdm+gnome-de?
[11:08] <scanwinder> dima202: try reading the readme in it
[11:09] <dima202> I dont see the readme :(
[11:09] <scanwinder> dima202: tar -zxf filename.tar.gz
[11:09] <scanwinder> its under the folder gaim in it
[11:10] <arnducky> I used to think that xdm, gdm, and kdm were all fairly interchangeable... also I read something about moving/switching x-windows processes between x-consoles and now I'm fairly confused about how it all works (I though binding something to :0.0 and moving it would require a chroot script at the least which would suspend the process, require a completely new x-window UI shell and rebind -- possibly running into security problems in t
[11:10] <arnducky> he attempt)
[11:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i was in my home directory and i almost just did "sudo rm -rf *"
[11:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> fokk
[11:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> then i realized i meant to be in ~/DOWNLOADS
[11:11] <joseluis> Hola
[11:11] <joseluis> jejej
[11:11] <joseluis> k tal todos...
[11:11] <dima202> All I see is the gaim folder, no readme :( scanwinder
[11:12] <ColD_7> what is the command to extract an tar.gz files in terminal?
[11:12] <tumi> tar xfvz
[11:12] <arnducky> BROKEN_LADDER, maybe replace /bin/rm with a link to a script front end that calls it dynamically and PROMTPS you -- hehehe
[11:12] <joseluis> Habla Spaish?
[11:12] <joseluis> hi
[11:12] <arnducky> no hable es
[11:12] <joseluis> eeee
[11:13] <joseluis> eres espaol
[11:13] <joseluis> jeje
[11:13] <arnducky> try /LIST #ubuntu
[11:13] <scanwinder> dima202: cd into the gaim folder and open the file "README" try "vim README" when ur in the folder
[11:13] <arnducky> and /LIST #*es
[11:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> arnducky or an alias
[11:13] <dima202> ooh
[11:13] <joseluis> joder
[11:14] <joseluis> English prostitute soon!!!!!!!!
[11:14] <arnducky> BROKEN_LADDER, if you alias something to  it, then you have another way to call the same function and N00K your install
[11:14] <joseluis> mejor SPANISH eehh!!!!
[11:14] <dima202> scanwinder, ~/Desktop/gaim$ ls
[11:14] <dima202> buttons  dialogs  icons  logo.png  status
[11:14] <ColD_7> is there any command in terminal that can copy the whole directory?
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> arnducky ?
[11:14] <arnducky> joseluis, take a look on ubuntu.com at the Support --> IRC sectionh
[11:15] <nameeate2> man cp
[11:15] <nameeate2> something along the lines of recursive iirc
[11:15] <arnducky> I think there is a list of regional IRC channels
[11:15] <Lardarse> cp -r ?
[11:15] <Madpilot> ColD_7: probably appending -R or something will work, but "man cp" like nameeate1 said...
[11:15] <arnducky> It's probably #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <Madpilot> !es
[11:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:15] <nameeate2> thats probably it, cp -r * /blah/blah
[11:16] <Lardarse> the only reason i know hat is becaise rm -r is remove recursively
[11:16] <Lardarse> but i don't recommend you do that
[11:16] <arnducky> nameeate1, does cp copy .* by default?
[11:16] <Lardarse> and ESPECIALLY not as root
[11:16] <mememe> hi all :)
[11:16] <nameeate2> arnducky: I have no idea :)
[11:16] <Lardarse> hi mememe
[11:16] <arnducky> I've recently noticed that the kubuntu GUI doesn't
[11:17] <mememe> Has anyone heard of problems playing DVDs? I can play mpeg/avi ok, but when i play DVDs i get no sound? (in totem player)
[11:17] <dima202> ehh scanwinder, left.. :( Only person who tried to help
[11:17] <arnducky> err .* files that is
[11:17] <arnducky> mememe, waht is thje backend?  gstreamer, xine, mplayer?
[11:17] <mememe> arnducky, totem-xine
[11:18] <kestas> you can use mplayer as a totem backend?
[11:18] <arnducky> Some of them may use a different codec for .mpg audio and .cda etc
[11:18] <Lardarse> doe any1 here know what i have to do to get gcc to work?
[11:18] <kestas> mememe, I wuold try and play around with some settings in xine, youre more likely to find a config option in there
[11:18] <dima202>  Can someone please help me out? I am trying to install a gAIM theme but not sure how to  do this, here is the url: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[11:18] <mememe> arnducky, sound when watching DVDs work in VLC by the way.
[11:19] <arnducky> that's my best guess, but since I need to install libdvdcss and xine-ui on this system anyhow, perhaps we can work on it together tonight.
[11:20] <arnducky> (Crimsum ist the guy you wnat for sound problems -- he seems to understand Linux sound architecture and the directory structure very well, especially ALSA)
[11:20] <arnducky> mememe, it msut be a binding/pipe issue -- or hardware
[11:20] <mememe> It's kind of weird since totem-xine can play local files with sound.. maybe it's some /dev/dvd permission or something? Even though it's weird that VLC can playback with sound.
[11:21] <arnducky> mememe, how is your DVD drive cabled?  Do the programs that work use digital audio extraction or the signal input into your soundcard directly?
[11:22] <nameeate2> is there anyway to drop into console mode (closing X/gdm) with out rebooting?
[11:22] <snadge> dima202, the instructions are on that page?
[11:22] <arnducky> And, BTW, mememe are you a kiwifruit (.nz) that used to hang on Unet?
[11:22] <mememe> arnducky, good question i guess :) It's a laptop :)
[11:22] <mememe> arnducky, nope, sorry :)
[11:22] <arnducky> I see .se
[11:22] <dima202> snadge, reallY? Hmm... Maybe I am blind? Where do you see this?
[11:23] <arnducky> mememe, it should be hardwired -- no cp3-connectors unless it is a very strange laptop
[11:23] <knite> I want to modify the Breezy DVD ISO before burning it to media (mostly just to add more stuff to fill up the disk); how would you suggest I go about this?
[11:23] <snadge> dima202, "Just extract the contents and overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/ to install."
[11:23] <snadge> nasty ;)
[11:23] <mememe> ** (totem:10603): WARNING **: Failed to load '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.x ml': Failed to open file '/usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml': No such file or  directory
[11:23] <mememe> I get that error while choosing "play movie" from the dvd menu.
[11:24] <mememe> libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/gs/.dvdnav/DVDVolume.map'
[11:24] <mememe> libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fd0000. Regions: 2
[11:24] <mememe> got that during startup
[11:24] <ColD_7> what is the command for deleting directory in terminal?
[11:24] <dima202> Thanks snadge :))) I still don't see that on the site though
[11:24] <dima202> :)
[11:24] <arnducky> (AFAIK, there are no mini-pci sound cards for laptops yet)  Although I've seen mini-pci voice modems that have internal connector cables (probably for WOL thogh,. not an audio signal)
[11:24] <knite> I'm thinking about just creating a new bootable DVD project (I'm using Nero right now) and just including all the files, but I still need to get a boot image somehow...
[11:24] <zygis> nameeate2: ctrl-alt-f1 hides X (alt+f7-12 brings back), ctrl-alt-backspace kills X
[11:24] <arnducky> mememe, how did you install xine, and do you ahve xine-ui or just libxine?
[11:25] <snadge> dima202, in the middle of the description, right in the middle of the page ;)
[11:25] <knite> ColD_7: rm -r
[11:25] <mememe> arnducky, apt-get install totem-xine
[11:25] <nameeate2> hmm, is that the best way to kill it tho? (I want to try out fluxbox)
[11:25] <knite> ColD_7: you should probably do "rm --help" to look over the help first
[11:25] <arnducky> Oh, and BTW, I need a fresh copy of libdvdcss (ver. 2 preferably).
[11:26] <ColD_7> :)
[11:26] <agnul> hi all, I'm trying to install breezy on a dell desktop with no ps2 ports, and both the live cd and the install cd complain about the usb controller. Error messages same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=491729&postcount=6. Disabling usb devices works, but then no keybord, so no install :-)
[11:26] <agnul> what could I try?
[11:26] <Lardarse> doe any1 here know what i have to do to get gcc to work?
[11:27] <dima202> ooh, i see it now! THe font is soo small! THanks snadge !! :)
[11:27] <dima202> Although I am getting an error saying I can't write to that dir
[11:27] <knite> anybody here try to create a custom ubuntu ISO?
[11:29] <Nermal> agnul: tried booting with pci=noacpi ?
[11:29] <snadge> dima202 sudo in front of it.. you'll have to do it as the super user, or root
[11:29] <arnducky> mememe the totem-xine package uses a different directory structure and links than xine-ui.  I recommend purging it, binding totem to gstreamer instead and building xine according to the 'advanced' instructions found on http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9655&package_id=66558rg
[11:29] <Lardarse> ok...
[11:29] <agnul> Nermal: nope. I'll give it a try
[11:29] <Lardarse> next question
[11:29] <arnducky> err,t hat'st eh SF mirror list not the instructions -- jsut a second
[11:30] <dima202> snadge, sudo mv gaim/ /usr/share/pixmaps ?
[11:30] <Lardarse> what's the easiest way to get an md5 checksum of a file?
[11:30] <snadge> dima202, i'd have a look in both paths first and check to see if thats the right thing to do
[11:30] <arnducky> http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#BUILDING
[11:31] <arnducky> Anymore surfing I can do for yoiu -- heh?
[11:31] <arnducky> ;-)
[11:32] <arnducky>  If you have installed xine-lib to a non-standard prefix, make sure that you have $prefix/bin in your PATH and that your linker finds libs in $prefix/lib - otherwise....
[11:32] <arnducky> export PATH="$prefix/bin:$PATH"
[11:32] <arnducky>    export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$prefix/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
[11:32] <arnducky>  to make sure libxine can be found by the frontend(s).
[11:33] <PatrikJohansson> anyone know of a good direct connect client for ubuntu??
[11:33] <agnul> live acpi=off pci=noacpi => same errors
[11:34] <dima202> snadge, I am not sure what do you mean?
[11:34] <snadge> diam202: check to see if there are files in both paths, with the same names.. the intention is to overwrite the image files, with new ones
[11:35] <dima202> yes
[11:35] <robotgeek> arnducky: sorry, was away
[11:35] <dima202> yes snadge
[11:35] <snadge> dima202, do that then and restart gaim
[11:35] <dima202> sudo mv gaim/ /usr/share/pixmaps/ mv: cannot overwrite directory `/usr/share/pixmaps/gaim'
[11:36] <dima202> I also tried to rename the original one
[11:36] <robotgeek> arnducky: full screen X program? i guess nothing different should happen. (full screen in firefox/Konqueror works fine)
[11:36] <arnducky> np -- BTW, what was taht hdparm command?  I didn't get it copied into my notes before it left the scrollbuffer
[11:36] <robotgeek> arnducky: scroll up?
[11:36] <arnducky> robotgeek, waht bout 'high\ly compiled' binaries, like commercial games?
[11:36] <snadge> dima202, is gaim running? if so quit it
[11:36] <dima202> snadge:  sudo rename /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim /gaim2/ Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"
[11:36] <dima202>         (Missing operator before hare?)
[11:36] <dima202> syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "/usr/share"
[11:37] <dima202> No, it is not running snadge
[11:37] <snadge> dima202, oh dear.. use mv not rename
[11:37] <robotgeek> arnducky: should be fine, i guess. i havent run any games yet
[11:37] <arnducky> robotgeek, you knw -- they guy who said that IDE was running in 16-bit access mode (allegedly by default under Breezey)
[11:38] <dima202> snadge, oh okay, got it, why not rename? It's only for files, not dirs?
[11:38] <robotgeek> arnducky: 16 bit? looks messed up to me :)
[11:38] <infralite> for the mother of all things good, has anyone use enlightenment under ubuntu here?
[11:39] <robotgeek> infralite: u've missed the e16/e17 bandwagon by 3 hours, i guess
[11:39] <infralite> crap :/
[11:39] <snadge> dima202, there is no rename.. only mv, which achieves the same thing
[11:39] <dima202> snadge, strange.. it still look like same old gaim. WHen I started I got the new logo though
[11:39] <arnducky> If you call the executable from a different console, how would you even tell the game to bind to localhost;display_dev#0;screen:0.1 (tty8 usually)
[11:40] <robotgeek> arnducky: export display? not sure, i'm speculating
[11:40] <arnducky> IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
[11:40] <infralite> anyone manage to run an alternativedektop to nautilus while under enlightenment?
[11:40] <arnducky> mine is on -- I have no idea what he's talking about
[11:41] <infralite> *alternative desktop
[11:41] <dima202> EH.. I guess it's not meant to be, I give up
[11:41] <robotgeek> infralite: you might need to have nautilus --no-desktop, or there's a option in the gconf
[11:41] <arnducky> infralite, I was just picking robotgeek's brain about something related -- heh
[11:42] <infralite> robotgeek: nautilus is dead
[11:42] <infralite> it exists no more
[11:42] <infralite> i killed it, i slaughered it
[11:42] <infralite> now i'm tring to get rox for my desktop, or by all means, anything else
[11:42] <dima202> I got rox on my Zaurus
[11:43] <arnducky> robotgeek, what's the difference between calling an x program from a console and calling it from inside a shell running in a preexisting instance of an x-server?
[11:43] <robotgeek> infralite: ah. i dunno any other file managers. there's something called cdargs if you like cli, or mc
[11:43] <arnducky> (I'm thinking that somehow the x server keeps track and 'tags' processes spawned in it's own 'userspace')
[11:44] <robotgeek> arnducky: calling x proggie without x running, you mean?
[11:44] <arnducky> But it's confusing to me since you can spawn one display manager or even just anotehr x server from within that shell
[11:44] <robotgeek> arnducky: i am not really sure of what you are trying to do, might be outta my league :)
[11:45] <arnducky> robotgeek, I want to call (or use a shell script to call x) and then exec anotehr program without x telling me that the display is locked
[11:46] <arnducky> I also want a better fundamental understanding of how this stuff works.
[11:46] <robotgeek> arnducky: and that shell program runs in another tty?
[11:47] <arnducky>  tty6:\# foo -sWiTChes start_arg [bindpath]  && exit
[11:47] <arnducky> that's basically what I want to do
[11:48] <arnducky> where Im calling the name of the x-console I want to run it in 'bindpath'
[11:48] <arnducky> xdm, gdm and kdm automatically call xinit, startx or X
[11:49] <robotgeek> arnducky: hmm, it's outta my league :)
[11:49] <wickedpuppy> arnducky, mail to x.org devel mailing list
[11:49] <arnducky> robotgeek, how do you start your fluxbox?
[11:50] <robotgeek> arnducky: i use openbox, and i use it within gnome :)
[11:50] <arnducky> robotgeek, what?!?
[11:51] <robotgeek> arnducky: yeah,it's a shocker ain't it :)
[11:51] <arnducky> Do you meant hat you actually login to a gnome DE using gdm | kdm | xdm and then type "fluxbox" in an x-term?
[11:51] <N6REJ> morning robotgeek
[11:51] <N6REJ> et al
[11:51] <robotgeek> arnducky: openbox is only a WM, so all it does is replace metacity
[11:51] <robotgeek> N6REJ: mornin
[11:51] <robotgeek> arnducky: openbox --replace
[11:52] <qingfang> yes
[11:53] <ColD_7> how do i install the downloaded cursors?
[11:53] <arnducky> It is, cause I thought you could just add fluxbox, enlightenment, icewm, (whatever) to the display manager's list of menu options (along with gnome, kde, failsafe gnome etc...).
[11:53] <arnducky> =o\
[11:53] <N6REJ> quick question.... I drug out an old p2-350 I had laying around and I need to make it into a workstation PRIMARILY for browsing, but also to run some office applications & be a print server.  BUT its only got a 4G and a 1.3G HD!  should I boot with live cd, and if so, will it use the HD to save the configurations or...........?
[11:54] <arnducky> robotgeek, I thought you used fluxbox or blackbox, not openbox
[11:54] <arnducky> =(
[11:54] <robotgeek> arnducky: used to use them, don't use them now
[11:54] <N6REJ> say hey belutz!
[11:54] <robotgeek> arnducky: they are added at /etc/gdm/Sessions/
[11:54] <N6REJ> ltns
[11:54] <Belutz> hai N6REJ
[11:55] <N6REJ> you ever get that cd I sent?
[11:55] <arnducky> N6REJ, just install directly, unless you want to copy partitions or data outside of the installer's partitioner
[11:55] <N6REJ> arnducky, not much room.. tried regular breezy install, and it complained cause it tried to copy the entire cd onto the HD
[11:55] <arnducky> Or unless you want to test for hardware compatibility with the static driver set on the CD 9which includes most of them).
[11:56] <N6REJ> arnducky, run that last part by me in english please?  Sounds about right?
[11:56] <arnducky> N6REJ, that's nto necessary IMO -- were you thinking about the M$ 'doze way of copying th install CD and then not being prompted for it later?
[11:57] <arnducky> N6REJ, a live CD has all the common drivers that its designers think most users will need.
[11:57] <N6REJ> no no, I tried a second ago to install breezy standard.  it got so far and said "ACK ran outa room copying rest of files from CD"!
[11:57] <arnducky> But they do not need to live on your disk.
[11:58] <arnducky> How much RAM, and did you do memtest?
[11:58] <N6REJ> arnducky, ok, now, if I boot with live CD can I get it to save the "customizations" to the HD?  in otherwords just use the live cd for the parts that won't change?...........  :( as I say that it doesn't sound right.
[11:58] <N6REJ> no, did not do memtest.
[11:59] <arnducky> Umm, I don't really know -- you'll have to check site.
[11:59] <N6REJ> 384? let me check
[11:59] <arnducky> A 4GB partitions should be lots
[11:59] <N6REJ> just make it one big one?
[11:59] <arnducky> If I were you, I'd make the 4 GB pt'n into two -- one for swap and put /home on the 1.3
[11:59] <Mabus06> what do you do when the "password is incorrect" for extracting rar files? :S
[12:00] <arnducky> That way you can back up /home to 2 CDs
[12:00] <arnducky> Mabus06, legitimately obtain the correct password (i.e. from the archive maintainer that decided it was worth encryting inthe first place)
[12:00] <N6REJ> ok, that works... I'd like to find another HD for it, but I'm not willing to invest alot of money on it just for a print server and web browser.  Need to save the $$ and spend it on new AMD 64 base systems instead!
[12:01] <N6REJ> much wiser investment.
[12:01] <arnducky> Mabus06, if you want help with cracking toolz, this is *not* the place to ask  -- *warning*
[12:01] <arnducky> All you're going to do is run cups, lpdd etc?
[12:01] <Mabus06> I didn't think I was hacking anything.... it was a copy downloaded from a .torrent, so I assume they wanted it to be downloaded by people
[12:02] <arnducky> You don't even need what you described for that -- unless you plan on serving for a busy LAN
[12:02] <N6REJ> uh, lets see, I need samba & browser primarily
[12:03] <arnducky> Do you even have more than one parallel iface on that thing?
[12:03] <N6REJ> nope
[12:03] <N6REJ> heck its a slot1?  ( long card ) cpu! asus mb.. I can't remember which one.
[12:03] <arnducky> Well, samba needs space (not for the software) but the whole point of samba is providing share space
[12:04] <arnducky> You want to share a couple GB only?
[12:04] <Fanfoua> hello
[12:04] <N6REJ> don't I need samba share to share the printers across the intranet?
[12:04] <Mabus06> arnducky, why would someone encrypt a torrent file?
[12:04] <Fanfoua> what is the command to list the networks around me with my wifi card ?
[12:05] <N6REJ> Fanfoua, look in synaptic there's a package that does that.
[12:05] <arnducky> N6REJ,  that's certainly the easiest way.  Pardon me, I though you meant you wanted samba for regular filesharing too -- my bad.
[12:05] <arnducky> Mabus06, you want me to guess?
[12:05] <arnducky> =oP
[12:06] <N6REJ> nope, just for print server... not enough umph for anything else right now.... running memtest and its got some bad memory :(
[12:06] <N6REJ> dang
[12:07] <arnducky> Heh, Fanfoua just reminded me to unplug my wireless (bluetooth) transceiver.
[12:07] <arnducky> buez  <3  <3    <3
[12:07] <arnducky> err 'Bluez' even
[12:07] <khermans> :-)
[12:07] <Fanfoua> what this package that lists the networks ?
[12:07] <frego> Fanfoua, iwlist intf scan
[12:08] <Fanfoua> ok thanks
[12:08] <arnducky> N6REJ, If you *only* want a printserer, I'd use Debian Sarge (just cause I'm more familiar with it).
[12:08] <frego> Fanfoua, where intf is your wifi card (ath0 for atheros, eth1 for ipw2200, wlan0 for others)
[12:08] <Mabus06> arnducky, I have the password now, how do I "use" it?
[12:08] <arnducky> If you are going to have an x-server though, then breezey:desktop might be your answer
[12:09] <N6REJ> nah, wife is going to use it to work on our groupware site too.
[12:09] <N6REJ> arnducky, k,
[12:09] <arnducky> Mabus06, look in the docs for your unrar utility FGS
[12:09] <arnducky> php groupware, Java?
[12:09] <N6REJ> php
[12:09] <Mabus06> arnducky, or could you just tell me, maybe?
[12:09] <N6REJ> tikiwiki
[12:10] <N6REJ> seems to have the most features.
[12:10] <Fanfoua> frego: how can i see with one it is : ath0, wlan0... ?
[12:10] <arnducky> Mabus06, I don't use bit torrent, ans I've never run into locked .rar archives so I can't really help you at all -- honestly.
[12:10] <Fanfoua> (which on)
[12:10] <Fanfoua> (which one)
[12:10] <arnducky> Now pls-stfu-now-kthnx-pls  =)
[12:11] <N6REJ> *covers eyes*
[12:11] <arnducky> !rar
[12:11] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[12:11] <Mabus06> !coc
[12:11] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[12:11] <Mabus06> arnducky, please read it, thank you
[12:11] <tobias__> hi there! is there any possibility to workaround the x-problems with dapper :) ?
[12:12] <N6REJ> I believe dapper has their own area
[12:12] <arnducky> Mabus06, there's is nothing inthere that says I have to put up with your harassment, now please LEAVE ME THE $#^% ALONE so I don't ahve to bother with adding you to my /IGNORE list
[12:12] <Mabus06> "if you have to ask how to use dappr, don't"
[12:12] <Mabus06> Harassment? :S
[12:12] <frego> Fanfoua, type iwconfig, and you'll see all wifi interfaces
[12:12] <Mabus06> If you read the CoC you would know not to say things like "stfu"
[12:13] <Mabus06> This is a friendly environment, thank you.
[12:13] <robotgeek> Mabus06: if you have unrar-nonfree installed, all you have to do is unrar x file.rar, and it will ask you for password.
[12:13] <Mabus06> Yeah I figured it out, robotgeek. Thanks.
[12:13] <robotgeek> Mabus06: :)
[12:14] <tobias__> so there is no workaround :) ? had no problems with unstable things till this moment...
[12:14] <arnducky> Yeah -- y9ou can't take RTF(unky)M  manul or "I don't know" for an answer.  I told you everything I know and you just keep pestering me with more questions (E.g. "or you you could just tell me")
[12:14] <Fanfoua> ok, thanks! (that's to help someone by telephone, and i'm on macos right now (not on my computer))
[12:14] <Mabus06> robotgeek, now I can watch beavis and butthead do america in peace! :D
[12:14] <Mabus06> arnducky, get laid
[12:14] <frego> Fanfoua, ok
[12:14] <robotgeek> arnducky. Mabus06 please stop
[12:14] <N6REJ> ok, lets knock it off please
[12:14] <arnducky> Mabus06, somehow Beavisd and Butthead seem apropriate -- LOL
[12:14] <arnducky> Now I'm smiling  =oD
[12:15] <Mabus06> robotgeek, I wasn't doing anything to "stop"
[12:15] <mahangu> Mabus06, be nice
[12:15] <Mabus06> mahangu, what are you talking about?
[12:15] <Mabus06> I am nice
[12:15] <Mabus06> I was poitning that abuser to the CoC
[12:15] <arnducky> ANyhow... N6REJ, if you have no data on the machine, I'm happy to try SSH supervision of an install with you
[12:15] <Mabus06> "get laid" was friendly "nice" advice
[12:16] <mahangu> Mabus06, sorry, was out of context
[12:16] <thoreauputic> OK lets get back on topic shall we?
[12:16] <arnducky> I don't want to be responsible for any of your data though.
[12:16] <N6REJ> ty thoreauputic
[12:17] <arnducky> If you choose 'expert' mode, after the second boot you should be able to choose from all the  Debian installer packages, including the "network console" and "SSH console" options.
[12:17] <N6REJ> arnducky, its ok, this is good practice for me.  I've got one breezy server, and my personnel workstation, so I need to be able to handle all the weird things.  And THAT box has been weird from the get go, but with it having a bad memory stick it might explain everything.
[12:17] <N6REJ> arnducky, yeah, I've already decided that it will have to be an expert install so that I don't get all the "FLUFF" installed.
[12:17] <jose> hi, is there any graphical interface for apt-get?
[12:18] <N6REJ> jose, yes, there are two.. one called symaptic and one called aptitude.
[12:18] <thoreauputic> !tell jose about synaptic
[12:18] <arnducky> Put a nasty password in and dcc it to me encrypted to me.  (The password and 'installer' account will be wiped after the system reboots the second time -- at least according to the breezey installer's directions.
[12:18] <thoreauputic> well, aptitude is not a GUI in the same sense synaptic is
[12:18] <arnducky> jose, kpkg too
[12:18] <Cope> what are the bot(s) called in this channel?
[12:19] <arnducky> (if you're using kde or kubuntu)
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Cope: ubotu
[12:19] <arnducky> Cope, ubotu and ChanServ
[12:19] <N6REJ> arnducky, I need to fix my memory problem :D tnx for the offer though
[12:19] <mahangu> Cope, ubotu is really the channel  bot
[12:19] <mahangu> Chanserv is a system bot
[12:19] <aeon17x> Cope: and nalioth, but he denies it repeatedly.
[12:19] <jose> ok, thanks witch one do you recommend me?
[12:19] <arnducky> N6REJ, 72-pin or SDRAM?
[12:19] <mahangu> Cope, dpkg is my friend :)
[12:19] <arnducky> if it's SDRAM, jsut yank the bad SIMM
[12:19] <Cope> dpkg rocks
[12:20] <mahangu> aeon17x, heh :)
[12:20] <N6REJ> arnducky, I think its 72pin.
[12:20] <arnducky> If you have 64 MB it should be enough... ewww
[12:20] <N6REJ> arnducky, I will when I find out which module it is.  There are 3
[12:20] <arnducky> EDO or non-EDO  (memtest should tell you)
[12:20] <SeRVeR> Is ubuntu support arabic language?
[12:21] <N6REJ> its not telling me anything about type yet... its still going.
[12:21] <arnducky> N6REJ, if there are theree slots in total it has to be SDRAM (a long, wide flat chewing gum stick -- but with the key in different places than DDR)
[12:22] <N6REJ> its NOT DDR :D  this is a p2-333
[12:22] <arnducky> 72 pin 'clicks' in -- you put it at an angle then tilt it back into the retaining clips
[12:23] <N6REJ> I'm trying to remember the model asus board...
[12:23] <N6REJ> its been forever.
[12:23] <N6REJ> p3c2000 I think
[12:23] <musofa> hewgfypgfwiiiiiipgfsj
[12:23] <arnducky> N6REJ, I have two mainboards that take DIMMs (not DDR DIMMs) that are older sitting right next to me
[12:23] <musofa> cgiewatfueigftora
[12:23] <musofa> g;ifywleewydweuheg
[12:24] <arnducky> Did you prnt scrnt he CMOS settings?
[12:24] <musofa> no
[12:24] <musofa> ggwu;fglg
[12:24] <thoreauputic> musofa: do you have anything relevant to say ?
[12:24] <musofa> hdsouitgewuo;g
[12:24] <N6REJ> what the heck?
[12:24] <N6REJ> musofa are you korean?
[12:24] <N6REJ> thoreauputic, if he's korean it will do that!
[12:24] <robotgeek> N6REJ: that was not funny.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: ?
[12:25] <arnducky> A P-II 333MHz system might have one of three kinds of RAM or even take two kinds (rarer boards)
[12:25] <N6REJ> yes, it will look like gibbberish
[12:25] <N6REJ> I've seen it before when I was a sysop for ms gaming zone.
[12:25] <rsilva> Hello I believe I have a memory leak in the kernel. Can anyone help me interpret the output of slabtop?
[12:26] <mahangu> rsilva, shoot, but also note that you can get help in your language in #ubuntu-br
[12:26] <mahangu> but yes, go ahead
[12:26] <N6REJ> robotgeek, what did I says that was mean?
[12:26] <rsilva> mahangu: I can speak English reasonably well.
[12:26] <Fanfoua> it's weird, i bought a new quite expansive wifi pc card, and the scanning doesn't work!
[12:27] <arnducky> 72-pins SIMMs (parity (and/or ECC parity) or non-parity, fastpage or ordinary); 'PC-66/100 or 133' DIMM
[12:27] <rsilva> My slabtop utility reports that one of my machines is using 160584K in ext3_inode_cache.
[12:27] <rsilva> This number looks high, doesn't it?
[12:27] <arnducky> not to me
[12:27] <arnducky> rsilva,
[12:27] <robotgeek> N6REJ: okay, i did not know korean looked like that :)
[12:28] <N6REJ> robotgeek, yes it can.. its wierd when you see it.. kanji does the same.
[12:28] <arnducky> How many total files have you got?  Are you using proc, udevfs with tmpfs?
[12:28] <arnducky> man hdparm
[12:28] <arnducky> man lsof
[12:28] <N6REJ> arnducky, its pc100 memory... 4 dimm slots
[12:28] <rsilva> arnducky: Why you say that. Free reports that 247Mb is being used in a machine without gnome running (only gdm, I am acessing it from ssh).
[12:28] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: well , it doesn't really - but maybe an encoding / non-UTF-8 issue
[12:28] <rsilva> arnducky: The machine is idle.
[12:29] <arnducky> N6REJ, cool -- then you probably have at least 128MB and they don't have to be used in pairs
[12:29] <arnducky> so just yank that bad one toss it
[12:30] <arnducky> Then check your BIOS, set boot from CD and do the memtest again, then install breezey-minimal
[12:30] <N6REJ> thoreauputic, that brings up a question I've been meaning to ask.  I've noticed lately that my ' and some A's are showing up weird!  go to http://www.cogyfarm.com/~troy/about.html and you'll see what I mean.  And I don't know whats causing them.
[12:30] <arnducky> After that apt-get install tasksel
[12:30] <totti> do you want to play soccer with me ?
[12:30] <N6REJ> arnducky, yeah, just have to find out which stick it is.
[12:30] <N6REJ> tasksel?
[12:30] <arnducky> N6REJ, I told you, you should be able to figure that out from memtest
[12:30] <arnducky> !tasksel
[12:30] <ubotu> arnducky: I give up, what is it?
[12:30] <N6REJ> when I install I never know wether to use utf-8 or utf
[12:30] <mahangu> Fanfoua, i can help you debug - wanna get in to offtopic?
[12:30] <mahangu> if you're talking about the 'monitor' mode that is
[12:30] <mahangu> for kismet etc
[12:31] <totti> sialan gua di kacangin
[12:31] <N6REJ> totti are you italian?
[12:31] <totti> mau kagak lo ?
[12:31] <arnducky> ubotu, tasksel is a meat-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)
[12:31] <ubotu> okay, arnducky
[12:31] <arnducky> !tasksel
[12:31] <ubotu> it has been said that tasksel is a meat-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)
[12:31] <N6REJ> totti italiano?
[12:31] <arnducky> ubotu, tasksel is a meta-package configuration tool for Debian (which may be optionally used on Ubuntu)
[12:31] <ubotu> ...but tasksel is already something else...
[12:32] <Goshawk> N6REJ, no he's not
[12:32] <N6REJ> ok, don't recognize the full language was trying.
[12:32] <totti> if you want,you must go to benteng
[12:32] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: are the "bullets" for apostrophes intentional? They show in the sourcce for that page here
[12:33] <N6REJ> no, they are the bad charachters
[12:33] <Goshawk> N6REJ, it seems something like..... arabian-like language
[12:33] <N6REJ> yes I know, I don't know why
[12:33] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: urgh, what produced that code? It's very ugly...
[12:33] <robotgeek> N6REJ: i don't see anything wrong in konq
[12:33] <arnducky> N6REJ, if your groupware site is going to spool many different print jobs, considering mounting /var/spool/ on its own partition
[12:33] <N6REJ> thoreauputic, don't ask you don't wanna know, It was written in desperation.
[12:33] <totti> no i am not totti on italiano
[12:33] <thoreauputic> N6REJ: heh
[12:33] <arnducky> N6REJ, are you taking notes?
[12:33] <N6REJ> arnducky, yes I'm paying attention.
[12:34] <N6REJ> morning Seveas
[12:34] <Seveas> oi
[12:34] <totti> are you can use indonesian league?
[12:34] <N6REJ> arnducky, does the memtest eventually quit and give you a report?
[12:35] <totti> hr'gyyhdirptyighiuerl,
[12:35] <arnducky> Next (in arnducky's fast and d3rty lpt dev install)... run tasksel and select [printserver]  meta package  (do not run this after you install anything else using breezey, because it will dselect unselected metapackages and possibly deinstall your Desktop if you already had one)
[12:35] <arnducky> N6REJ, you should be looking at a 'report' as it runs
[12:35] <totti> uitou heyeyu iiwwwr yrehyduie yetddreg!!!!!!!!!!
[12:36] <N6REJ> its on test 6
[12:36] <totti> juahaf hkddjfk ukgusjjsiydy?
[12:36] <N6REJ> totti we don't speak indonesian here.. wait please.
[12:36] <arnducky> DIMM slots are usually numbered from '0' to '3' (if you have four)
[12:36] <arnducky> err same for SIMMs... heh
[12:36] <robotgeek> totti: what are you trying to do?
[12:36] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: troll alert!
[12:37] <thoreauputic> totti: *cough*
[12:37] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: yeah I see :|
[12:37] <arnducky> Oh, and make sure you choose 'expert' install mode when you boot from the Breezey CD -- hit F1 to see the menu options
[12:37] <totti> do you knou bali?
[12:37] <arnducky> and debconf debug=5 (very verbose) might be a good idea too
[12:38] <arnducky> or # dmesg -n 5
[12:38] <arnducky> when you get to the console
[12:38] <allobjects> hello all, I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask. I have just installed Ubuntu breezy and would like t install the KDE Edutainment Suite, can someone help me
[12:38] <totti> now i in roma city
[12:38] <arnducky> allobjects, try Synaptic
[12:38] <N6REJ> !tell totti ubuntu-il
[12:39] <allobjects> arnducky, Synaptic ?
[12:40] <rsilva> allobjects: The package manager.
[12:40] <arnducky> N6REJ, then install your desktop last using aptitude, dselect, dpkg or whatever you like (I recommend against installing the tasksel Desktop metapackage becasue it's bloated and will give you Gnome, and KDE instead of just one)
[12:40] <totti> bali is best of the best city in the world
[12:40] <arnducky> allobjects, do you have a GUI on that machine now?
[12:40] <robotgeek> totti: please stay on topic
[12:41] <totti> oke oke
[12:41] <xsje> Hi all. Q: how can i see whether my 3c905 is in fullduplex mode?
[12:41] <Luck_man> ola
[12:42] <arnducky> totti, cute and cheeky chocolate chix in Bali?
[12:42] <arnducky> ;-)
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[12:42] <brownie17> can someone tell me what the hell the "login photo" does on breezy? and if there is a grpahical type logon screen to use instead of typing your username?
[12:43] <arnducky> It's not like the channel is really busy dude -- let him boast about his travels if he want.  That's what I say at least, though you may be a chop and pull rank on me if you like.
[12:43] <allobjects> arnducky, I have the standard Ubuntu desktop if that is what you mean
[12:43] <arnducky> KDE or Gnome (not that it makes too much difference)
[12:43] <Luck_man> ola
[12:43] <allobjects> Gnome
[12:43] <robotgeek> arnducky: no, i'm not a chop.
[12:43] <arnducky> :$ sudo synaptic
[12:44] <brownie17> robotgeek, no, dude, your a chop
[12:44] <arnducky> or Kpanel  -->  Utilities -- 'Package Manager (Synaptic)'
[12:44] <brownie17> robotgeek, you are totally a big chop
[12:44] <brownie17> hahaha
[12:44] <brownie17> i don't even know why i insulted him, just felt like it
[12:44] <brownie17> i apologise, it was rude
[12:44] <arnducky> brownie17, good gravy, are you trying to fry that chop
[12:44] <arnducky> ;-D
[12:45] <N6REJ> i'm off to go eat ... back l8tr
[12:45] <allobjects> ok Synaptic GUI is up
[12:45] <N6REJ> morning ompaul
[12:45] <arnducky> Good Idea -- I'll go make some food too now, I think
[12:45] <arnducky> =oD
[12:45] <brownie17> someone tell me what "login photo" actually does
[12:45] <brownie17> pleas
[12:45] <brownie17> e
[12:46] <ompaul> with 15 minutes left Good Morning
[12:46] <arnducky> allobjects, use the search feature to browse your package cache
[12:46] <xsje> how can i see whether my 3c905 is in fullduplex mode?
[12:46] <N6REJ> lol.. yes, I guess that about right for you?  2345 right now isn't it?
[12:46] <soundray> ompaul, you must be on UTC.
[12:47] <rob_p> xsje:  sudo mii-tool eth0 (assuming your ethernet interface is eth0)
[12:47] <ompaul> soundray, you got it
[12:47] <arnducky> (also there is a Breezey specific front-end script for synaptic that I find very annoying but may be helpfull when you don't know what you're looking for, or you're a newbie; or you need to add multiverse or universe for the first time)
[12:47] <N6REJ> ompaul, I actually wrote a useful wiki last night :D
[12:47] <xsje> rob_p: tnx
[12:48] <arnducky> ((err maybe it's in Hoary too))
[12:48] <rob_p> xsje:  np  :-)
[12:48] <arnducky> bye -now mealtime -- BBIAB
[12:48] <brownie17> brb
[12:49] <cion> hey all how do i install skype on ubuntu?
[12:49] <allobjects> arnducky, ok found the kdeedu so I'll just mark it and see how I go ?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> !skype
[12:49] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:50] <N6REJ> ok, back in a bit...
[12:51] <xsje> rob_p: a u willing to help me further?
[12:52] <bombero> hi , have ubuntu 5.10 installed, but with the kernel 2.6.12-10-386, how to change to -i686 ??
[12:52] <rob_p> xsje:  Sure.  I've got about 10 minutes or so.
[12:53] <os2mac> hi all... I am running Kubuntu but I am really tired of the whole blue thing... can someone point me to a place where I can get the offical ubuntu wallpaper?
[12:53] <cliebow> antone have experience woth lucent winmodem and kppp..works from wvdial but cant get kppp right...first a segfault..now just sort of resting
[12:53] <thoreauputic> bombero: sudoa pt-get install linux-686
[12:53] <thoreauputic> oops *sudo
[12:53] <bombero> thanx
[12:53] <bombero> will try now
[12:54] <xsje> rob_p: can we move to #flood. so i can show you the output of mii-tool?
[12:54] <rob_p> xsje:  See you there...
[12:55] <bombero> thoreauputic, it works, thanks
[12:55] <MrApex> hi all
[12:55] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[12:55] <cfuerst> hi mrapex
[12:55] <cfuerst> where are you from
[12:55] <MrApex> im a complete noob to linux to bear with me
[12:55] <MrApex> UK
[12:56] <MrApex> i need to install the nVidia drivers
[12:56] <cfuerst> i am from austria
[12:56] <Seveas> !tell MrApex about nvidia
[12:56] <cfuerst> what distri you have
[12:56] <thoreauputic> !tell MrApex about nvidia
[12:56] <cion> hey all how do i install skype?
[12:56] <cfuerst> what distribution do you have
[12:56] <cion> pckges are different?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> heh OK too slow :)
[12:56] <cfuerst> apt-get install skype
[12:56] <cion> that's it?
[12:57] <MrApex> it keeps saying i need to quit x server
[12:57] <thoreauputic> !tell cion about skype
[12:57] <allobjects> arnducky, marking the kdeedu package cause a number of dependencies which fail....I'm going to get some shut eye and have another go at this in the morning, thanks for the assist
[12:57] <cfuerst> sorry i ment skyutils
[12:57] <TWD> Hi, can anyone help me with a (multimedia) codec problem?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> !tell TWD about ask
[12:58] <thoreauputic> TWD: you need to tell us what the problem is first :)
[12:58] <TWD> OK, thanks thoreauputic, I just thought I'd introduce my topic before giving all the details :)
[12:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:59] <Seveas> TWD, we like our problems in detail :)
[12:59] <RQ> TWD, iontroductions waste traffic
[12:59] <TWD> I've just installed Breezy, updated everything, enabled universe/multivers and the plf repos
[12:59] <TWD> and installed the w32codec pack, which as always unpacked a load of files to /usr/lib/win32
[01:00] <Seveas> !+goodmorning
[01:00] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!
[01:00] <peter_> why doesent the mouse copy/paste buffer work for certain programs? i cant paste into xterm or vim from other apps (eg firefox)
[01:00] <TWD> I then went into totem (default, gstreamer version) and tried to play a divx
[01:00] <Seveas> TWD, ehhh-wrong :)
[01:00] <TWD> to which totem awnsered : no codec found.
[01:00] <TWD> Seveas: Which part :)
[01:00] <thoreauputic> TWD: install totem-xine
[01:00] <Seveas> yo need either gstreamer0.8-pitfdll or totem-xine to use the w32codecs
[01:00] <TWD> OK
[01:01] <robotgeek> what's the difference between k7/386/686
[01:01] <TWD> I installed pitfdll
[01:01] <RQ> robotgeek, the processor
[01:01] <thoreauputic> !tell TWD about restricted
[01:01] <TWD> but I couldn't seem to get it to work
[01:01] <robotgeek> RQ: are they all x86, as sucj
[01:01] <RQ> robotgeek, yes
[01:01] <RQ> but the optimizations differ
[01:01] <RQ> k7 is for AMD
[01:01] <RQ> 686 is for intels
[01:01] <TWD> OK, so otherwise putting totem-xine in is the only other option?
[01:02] <robotgeek> peter_: try middle clicking?
[01:02] <TWD> Thanks, I'll go check that out now :)
[01:02] <thoreauputic> TWD: try typing gst-register-0.8
[01:02] <TWD> already done :(
[01:02] <RQ> TWD, at least for me, totem-Xine worked better than the gstreamer version
[01:02] <thoreauputic> TWD: but read the RestrictedFormats wiki too
[01:02] <hanseatic> how do i get a sondfile like *wav or *mp3 out of a video.mpeg or avi?
[01:03] <MrApex> im quite impressed by ubuntu so far
[01:03] <robotgeek> RQ: so all the codecs an java will work on them ?
[01:03] <peter_> robotgeek: i am using middleclick to paste. doesent work with vim. otoh i can paste from the mouse buffer using shift + insert
[01:03] <Seveas> hanseatic, mplayer should be able to do that with a bunch of commandline options
[01:04] <robotgeek> peter_: one sec, lemme grab a link to help you out with vim :)
[01:04] <MrApex> woo it worked
[01:04] <MrApex> thanks guys
[01:05] <RQ> robotgeek, java???
[01:05] <hanseatic> seveas yes, and a bunch of other tools too, but mplayer does have A LOT OF options
[01:05] <RQ> ah
[01:05] <RQ> yes
[01:05] <RQ> they will
[01:05] <Seveas> hanseatic, indeed ;)
[01:06] <robotgeek> peter_: i hope you are refering to console vim
[01:06] <peter_>  robotgeek: yes, not i'm using gvim
[01:07] <TWD> OK, just to say that I've installed totem-xine and now everything works a treat, thanks all :)
[01:07] <robotgeek> RQ: just need the information
[01:08] <thoreauputic> TWD: :)
[01:08] <robotgeek> peter_: can't you paste at all, or it indents?
[01:09] <peter_> robotgeek: i cant paste at all.
[01:10] <robotgeek> peter_: it might have something to do with the unnamed buffer. but, i can paste without messing with it. one sec
[01:10] <ben_underscore> a box of ubuntu cds from shipit arrived today, about 40 of them. pretty good time seeing that i'm in australia
[01:10] <mahangu_> ben_underscore, you ordered forty?
[01:11] <ben_underscore> mahangu_, yep
[01:11] <mahangu_> ben_underscore, heh gotta do that myself
[01:11] <ben_underscore> mahangu_, i'm going to send them to local members of parliament
[01:12] <barry89> can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ...  am having problems getting to the virtual consoles
[01:12] <adam_> hi, have wrong charset (in xchat), how to change to 8859-15 ?
[01:13] <RQ> adam_, /charset
[01:13] <RQ> i.e., /charset iso-8859-15
[01:13] <RQ> or change it in the server prefs
[01:14] <robotgeek> peter_: you can middle click and paste to an xterm though
[01:14] <mahangu_> ben_underscore, awesome stuff, im in -offtopic if you care to talk
[01:14] <mahangu_> :)
[01:14] <adam_> thanks, it works
[01:15] <fsmw> hi all!
[01:15] <ZonaX> hi
[01:15] <fsmw> i want to setup a ubuntu mirror
[01:15] <robotgeek> peter_: try setting 'set mouse=a' in your .vimrc
[01:15] <peter_> robotgeek: no, i *cant* middleclick and paste to xterm or vim, so i dont think this is a vim issue
[01:15] <peter_> i have that set
[01:16] <fsmw> i know there is a page in the wiki, and point a rsync url, but i don't understand what to do with
[01:16] <fsmw> somebody know how to setup it?
[01:16] <robotgeek> peter_: so no, it's not a vim issue
[01:16] <peter_> shift insert works with both xterm and vim
[01:16] <peter_> but not middleclick :(
[01:16] <robotgeek> peter_: it's an xterm issue/your mouse issue. maybe you can try pasting in gvim by selecting text from firefox
[01:17] <barry89> is there anyway to get to a virtual terminal (apart from ctrl+alt+fx) ?
[01:17] <mvhenten> Hello! I was looking for a menu where I can setup the GRUB bootloader: I want to change the default timeout and os it's loading.
[01:17] <mvhenten> I typed GRUB in the wiki but I don't quite understand it.
[01:18] <mahangu_> peter_, is your mouse usb or ps2 or other
[01:18] <mahangu_> ubotu, teoo mvhenten about GRUB
[01:18] <ubotu> mahangu_: Not a clue
[01:18] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell mvhenten about GRUB
[01:18] <mahangu_> sorry abou tthat
[01:18] <robotgeek> peter_: any app will work, i guess
[01:19] <BigKahuna> Anybody using Tovid?
[01:19] <peter_> robotgeek: it works for gvim, no surprise there though
[01:19] <mvhenten> ok there is no 'menu' how I can do this? I have to open the "terminal" ?
[01:20] <robotgeek> peter_: so it's a console issue. i hope you are not using putty for some strange reason :)
[01:20] <peter_> i'm not using putty, dont see why it should make a difference though?
[01:21] <robotgeek> peter_: putty has some weird options for pasting
[01:23] <soundray> bash in gnome-terminal doesn't see certain keystrokes. The terminal menu opens instead. How can I change that?
[01:24] <barry89> can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ... I am having problems getting to the virtual consoles. Where is the keyboard config file located, if I delete it will it regenerate a new one (that works)?
[01:24] <mvhenten> ok, i have opened the menu.lst file. I have to change 'default num' to change default os right? so the first is zero? or 1? is 0 the default something?
[01:25] <soundray> mvhenten, 0 is the first entry.
[01:25] <mvhenten> so I have a total of 7 entries
[01:25] <mvhenten> the last entry would be 6
[01:26] <soundray> mvhenten, yes
[01:26] <mvhenten> when starting counting at 0? right?
[01:26] <mvhenten> ok
[01:27] <mvhenten> is every entry starting with 'title' in menu.list an entry? since there is this 'separator' menu, does it count to the number of entries.
[01:27] <mvhenten> I'm sorry, but this is a bit confusing
[01:27] <mvhenten> and I am on a slow network connection I don't want to go and download the live cd if things get messed up :)
[01:27] <soundray> mvhenten, you've got it right, though.
[01:28] <soundray> mvhenten, you could order the CD instead.
[01:28] <mvhenten> so the 'separator' also counts for the number of entries. ah, in that case I have 8 entries.
[01:28] <mvhenten> soundray, you are totally right. poor student tho.
[01:28] <soundray> mvhenten, never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of CDs.
[01:28] <soundray> mvhenten, they are free.
[01:29] <mvhenten> when I get rich I'll get a creditcard and start supporting the free software :)
[01:29] <MrApex> what package of Xcaht should i be downlaoding?
[01:29] <MrApex> XChat*
[01:29] <geone> hi guys!
[01:29] <soundray> MrApex,  the default one.
[01:29] <thoreauputic> MrApex: it's already installed by default :)
[01:29] <cion> I can't make my mic work with skype any ideas?
[01:29] <MrApex> oh yes
[01:29] <MrApex> :P
[01:29] <mvhenten> cion I had that problem
[01:30] <mvhenten> I changed the sound settings to "oss"
[01:30] <cion> u kixed it?
[01:30] <cion> oh riiight
[01:30] <geone> how do detect a new video in the post installation of ubuntu
[01:30] <mvhenten> skype only understands "oss" not alsa
[01:30] <thoreauputic> cion: check alsamixer for muted channels or openthe gnome mixer
[01:30] <cion> wow
[01:30] <geone> how do you detect a new video in the post installation of ubuntu,  i mean
[01:30] <mvhenten> if you have esd running (or alsa)
[01:30] <cion> no mc is not muted
[01:30] <soundray> When I hit Alt+F in gnome-terminal, the menu opens. But I want to edit the command line. How do I make bash see my keystrokes?
[01:30] <mvhenten> skype can not use the audio devices
[01:30] <MrApex_Linux> woohoo
[01:30] <MrApex_Linux> it al works
[01:30] <cion> ok so i use oss?
[01:31] <barry89> geone: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:31] <mvhenten> cion: that's how I got to use skype anyway.
[01:31] <geone> thanks
[01:31] <geone> some told to use modprobe
[01:31] <cion> ok ill give it a try
[01:31] <cion> thx
[01:31] <mvhenten> I have a sblive wich supports multiple wave out anyway so I do not need esd or alsa to work
[01:31] <cion> cya
[01:31] <geone> but i dont know how to use the command
[01:31] <geone> thanks
[01:32] <barry89> in a terminal type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:32] <soundray> mvhenten, did you get my line saying that you can order Ubuntu CD's for free?
[01:32] <barry89> geone, it will ask you a serious of questions
[01:32] <geone> thanks ill try
[01:32] <barry89> geone, you answer them
[01:33] <barry89> geone,  backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first, incase you break X
[01:33] <geone> im from philippines
[01:33] <gilmessias> ops
[01:33] <barry89> can anyone take a look at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94266 ... I am having problems getting to the virtual consoles. Where is the keyboard config file located, if I delete it will it regenerate a new one (that works)?
[01:33] <geone> quite new to linux
[01:34] <soundray> Guys, can you help me fix this silly terminal behavior?
[01:34] <ubuntu> holas
[01:34] <mvhenten> soundray, yes, thanks,
[01:34] <ubuntu> hello
[01:34] <ZonaX> nice nickname :P
[01:35] <ubuntu> thanks
[01:35] <ZonaX> ^^
[01:35] <geone> barry
[01:35] <mvhenten> however, about my slow connection: i was referring to my impatience: I guess If I had a day or so I could download the ubuntu cd with torrent
[01:35] <mvhenten> the connection is slow, but free.
[01:35] <soundray> barry89, does sudo chvt 1 work?
[01:35] <ubuntu> i am francisco
[01:35] <ubuntu> i am from chole
[01:35] <ubuntu> chile
[01:36] <El_Che> whereabouts?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> welcome francisco :)
[01:36] <geone> sometimes when i transfer my linux hardrive to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem
[01:36] <mvhenten> so I don't want to order a free cd: save them postmarks ( or are they a NGO that needs to spend money?)
[01:36] <barry89> soundray, yeah
[01:36] <geone> sometimes when i transfer my linux hardrisk to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem?
[01:36] <barry89> soundray, thanks a lot
[01:37] <barry89> soundray, you any idea why the ctrl+alt+fx shortcuts don't work ?
[01:37] <soundray> barry89, have you played with System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts?
[01:38] <barry89> soundray, yeah, but I can't see anything relevant
[01:38] <soundray> barry89, have you got the Keyboard Preferences panel item loaded with weird settings?
[01:39] <ubuntu> quien habla espaol???
[01:39] <barry89> soundray, not as fas as I know
[01:39] <barry89> soundray, the ctrl + alt + fx works when I am not in the F7 (gnome!)
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:39] <thoreauputic> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <soundray> barry89, does it work when you have the desktop in focus instead of the terminal?
[01:40] <mvhenten> How much success have people had in running wine?
[01:40] <barry89> soundray, nope
[01:40] <soundray> mvhenten, plenty of success running wine down my throat.
[01:40] <ben_underscore> mvhenten, i once ran a windows virus in wine
[01:40] <ben_underscore> mvhenten, it was quite funny
[01:40] <geone> hello!!!
[01:40] <geone> sometimes when i transfer my linux hardrisk to a new board im experiencing kernel panic, how do you correct the problem?
[01:41] <soundray> barry89, have you restarted X or rebooted since this occurred?
[01:41] <rohan> hi all
[01:41] <rohan> i use irssi over
[01:41] <soundray> geone, your error description is insufficient.
[01:41] <geone> same thing happens
[01:41] <barry89> soundray, yes, it has been happening for about a week
[01:41] <mvhenten> ah ok :)
[01:41] <rohan> screen. many times, during minimizing, or when some other window covers it, screen goes black, and some words flicker
[01:41] <rohan> then i need to detach and reattach
[01:41] <rohan> then its fine
[01:41] <mvhenten> so... first I want to have access to the ntfs partition running the os of the enemy
[01:42] <rohan> anyone else experiences that ?
[01:42] <geone> +
[01:42] <geone> .+
[01:42] <barry89> soundray, I reckon I just need to delete the GNOME keyboard config file(s), but I have no idea where they are
[01:42] <robotgeek> rohan: screen as in GNU screen?
[01:42] <rohan> robotgeek: yes.
[01:42] <ben_underscore> mvhenten, try cross over office (non-free), it runs most windows stuff really well on linux
[01:43] <fearl> Seveas: you around?
[01:43] <robotgeek> rohan: i've never experienced that problem, i am not sure what the cause is
[01:43] <rohan> i could have googled, but i dont know what to search for, such a strange problem this is.
[01:43] <kitsch> i need to change the volume keyboard shortcuts to change the volume of PCM instead of Master or whatever is the default (for some reason only PCM actually affects volume on my computer). does anyone have a suggestion on how to do this? i've checked keyboard shortcuts prefs but found nothing there.
[01:43] <soundray> barry89, one way to do this is to log out, then login on the console, then issue rm -rf ~/.gnome* and rm -rf ~/.gconf*, but...
[01:43] <rohan> robotgeek: i use screen only for irssi, and it happens unexpectedly, i cant reproduce as and when i want :(
[01:43] <soundray> barry89, after that you'll have to start configuring gnome from scratch.
[01:44] <ubuntu> alguien habla espaol
[01:44] <kwtm1> If I've installed a number of deb packages, where are they stored on my hard drive, so that I don't have to download them again when I install them on my other computer?
[01:44] <soundray> kwtm1, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:44] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: we told you the channel for that - #ubuntu-es - this is an english channel
[01:44] <barry89> soundray, :( ... thanks for the help, I am not willing to start reconfiguring gnome from scratch though. I will update the forum thread and see if anyone else has any input.. thanks again
[01:45] <kwtm1> ubuntu: no hablo bien espanol; busca #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <kwtm1> soundray: thanks!
[01:45] <fearl> thoreauputic: lunitik here, I've been banned in here for something like 3 months now... any chance you can remove the ban?
[01:45] <mvhenten> I'd prefer to use free software tho. crossover office looks nice, but...
[01:45] <soundray> barry89, the keyboard settings are buried somewhere in those dir's, but I don't know where.
[01:45] <thoreauputic> fearl: really? oh boy
[01:45] <biel>  hi there! I do not know if this is the right channel, but I am looking for information on how to make a live distro (like ubuntu ;-)  ) can anyone help me ?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> fearl: /msg me please
[01:46] <mvhenten> biel, try knoppix?
[01:46] <robotgeek> kitsch: try right clicking on the volume applet. then link it to control both master and pcm. that might work
[01:46] <rohan> robotgeek: my god, the screen problem happened again!
[01:46] <soundray> biel, google for 'debian from scratch'
[01:46] <rohan> i took a screenshot
[01:46] <traveller> i'm using breezy, when i connect a dialup modem the new route doesn't get added so i have to do it manually, is there a way to automate this?
[01:46] <rohan> interested anyone ?
[01:46] <biel> yes , I know knoppix ... but i think Ubuntu uses morphix, am I right ? :)
[01:46] <adam_> biel, www.knopper.net
[01:46] <biel> Ok ! Debian from scratch ! :)
[01:46] <barry89> soundray, ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/accessibility/keyboard/%gconf.xml
[01:47] <fearl> biel: gnoppix is affiliated with ubuntu...
[01:47] <soundray> biel, you could also check out the dfsbuild package in ubuntu.
[01:47] <robotgeek> rohan: really really weird
[01:47] <soundray> barry89, do you want to risk rm'ing that?
[01:47] <barry89> if I delete it, will it remake itself?
[01:47] <kitsch> robotgeek: thanks! but it does not seem to work...
[01:47] <soundray> barry89, I believe so, but I won't promise.
[01:47] <robotgeek> kitsch: oh well.
[01:47] <biel> Ok ! Thank you very much palls :)
[01:48] <biel> see ya ! :)
[01:48] <barry89> ctrl + alt + backspace still works
[01:48] <soundray> barry89, there is hope yet :)
[01:48] <rohan> robotgeek: wait a sec
[01:48] <EvilPaddy> Can someone please try this link for me in FireFox (Breezy), It keeps bombing out on me, broswer window just disappears: http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Cplusplus/First-Steps-in-C-Programming-continued/
[01:48] <barry89> soundray, wish me luck....
[01:49] <rohan> robotgeek: http://cs.pixeli.org/rohan/gnu_screen_problem_ubuntu.png
[01:49] <benny> moinmoin...  is there anyone who can help me with al log-message?
[01:49] <robotgeek> uggh
[01:49] <purplefeltangel> why is spamassassin totally *not* working?
[01:49] <fearl> purplefeltangel: set any rules?
[01:50] <purplefeltangel> fearl: like, filters?
[01:50] <fearl> purplefeltangel: yes...
[01:50] <robotgeek> rohan: does it happen if you use a different terminal emulator, other than gnome-terminal?
[01:50] <purplefeltangel> fearl: yeah i did
[01:50] <fearl> purplefeltangel: spamassasin learns, but isn't really that effective from the start....
[01:50] <benny> the message: Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst
[01:50] <fearl> purplefeltangel: hmm... strange...
[01:50] <purplefeltangel> fearl: ah, ok
[01:50] <EvilPaddy> Can someone please try this link for me in FireFox (Breezy), It keeps bombing out on me, broswer window just disappears: http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Cplusplus/First-Steps-in-C-Programming-continued/
[01:50] <rohan> robotgeek: havent checked. trying urxvt. but how will i know ? i cant reproduce the problem manually.
[01:51] <purplefeltangel> fearl: i only just got ubuntu like last week. so that makes sense.
[01:51] <purplefeltangel> fearl: also, in evolution, hwo can i get images to load in messages automatically?
[01:51] <rsilva> Hello, I have discovered that "updatedb" seems to reserve some memory that looks leaked to the "free" command. Is this normal?
[01:51] <soundray> EvilPaddy, it works here.
[01:51] <kwtm1> Hmm... with a name like EvilPaddy, do we know that that web page isn't going to take over Firefox or something? :)
[01:51] <robotgeek> rohan: it's really really weird :)
[01:51] <fearl> purplefeltangel: I don't have it installed... but its somewhere logical in the prefs...
[01:52] <kwtm1> EvilPaddy: Works in Konqi, though...
[01:52] <Seveas> spamassassin on Ubuntu is sooo not working
[01:52] <soundray> EvilPaddy, kwtm1, I believe in Firefox security :)
[01:52] <rohan> robotgeek: yes, and i dunno how to reproduce the problem. i am on screen with urxvt
[01:52] <Seveas> search bugzilla for the latest report about it, it has an explanation why
[01:52] <EvilPaddy> kwtm1, Yes, thats right..
[01:52] <soundray> EvilPaddy, try loading with images and javascript off.
[01:52] <purplefeltangel> fearl: ok i will try to find it. t hank you
[01:52] <kwtm1> Maybe if you changed your name from EvilPaddy to InnocentGuy or something ....
[01:53] <orbx> does anyone know of a good avi plugin for totem player?
[01:53] <barry89> soundray, :( ... didn't work
[01:53] <soundray> kwtm1, that's when I'd get suspicious
[01:53] <willii> hello all need help with audio in breezy badger 5.10 drivers for RealTek 5.612.413.2004
[01:53] <PetLovingPaddy> What ya think!
[01:53] <soundray> barry89, did you log out before you rm'ed the directory?
[01:53] <benny> hmmm ive no idea...
[01:53] <barry89> no soundray
[01:53] <barry89> should I have ?
[01:53] <fearl> orbx: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ffpeg ...
[01:54] <soundray> barry89, if you don't, gnome writes back its config files on exit.
[01:54] <barry89> lol alright cheers
[01:54] <barry89> brb
[01:55] <orbx> fearl > that didn't work
[01:55] <Goatocausto> hey anyone able to help me with a partition problem ?? i installed ubuntu earlier today and decided i didnt want it, anyhow, now i removed it and have the partition taking up free space that i need... its a dumb question i know but im trying to use partition magic to get the space back
[01:55] <Goatocausto> do i just make the now "unallocated" space into for example a ntfs partition, and then "merge" it back with my other hdd partition ??
[01:56] <fearl> orbx: ffmpeg...
[01:56] <fearl> orbx: I had a spelling mistake  :/
[01:56] <Seveas> Goatocausto, simply resize the existing partition..
[01:56] <soundray> Goatocausto, am I getting you right, you're looking for Partition Magic support here?
[01:56] <Goatocausto> mm ok i get your point :S lol
[01:56] <topyli> orbx: or you can use totem-xine and install the w32codecs which will handle evil codecs better
[01:57] <barry89> soundray, how am I going to remove the file? when I log out I can't get to another terminal to remove the file
[01:57] <fearl> topyli: false actually... the gstreamer codecs seem to provide better clarity here...
[01:57] <soundray> barry89, you need to log in on the text console.
[01:57] <barry89> soundray, I cant get to the text console?
[01:57] <barry89> soundray, oh the session
[01:57] <barry89> soundray, ok. brb
[01:57] <benny> is anybody able zo help me with:  sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[01:57] <benny> Password:
[01:57] <benny> Nov 24 13:29:05 localhost gconfd (benny-8249): Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst
[01:57] <MrApex_Linux> question
[01:58] <MrApex_Linux> how do i install themes on Gnome?
[01:58] <topyli> fearl: yeah well, my knowledge may be outdated, gstreamer is getting better all the time
[01:58] <benny> the message comes continous
[01:58] <soundray> benny, meet me in #ubuntu-de
[01:58] <Seveas> benny, that's a normal message
[01:58] <benny> k, thx
[01:59] <jose> hi, is there any firewall in ubuntu?
[01:59] <Seveas> !firewall
[01:59] <yatesy> iptables
[01:59] <vitadrinker> Hallo
[01:59] <ubotu> I guess firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[01:59] <topyli> MrApex_Linux: get the themes from art.gnome.org or somewhere, then just drag the packages to the theme manager
[01:59] <topyli> jose: are you sure you need one? :)
[02:00] <jose> no, i am trying to configure driverloader, from linuxand
[02:00] <jose> uy
[02:00] <jose> linuxant
[02:00] <MrApex_Linux> oh right
[02:00] <orbx> totpyli > i will just use vlc ;)
[02:00] <MrApex_Linux> im usiing Gnome-Loog
[02:00] <MrApex_Linux> Look*
[02:00] <jose> and when i try to configure it, i cannot open the page, it is 127.0.0.1:18020, i think...
[02:00] <topyli> MrApex_Linux: all the same
[02:00] <jose> so i thought maybe a firewall is bloking it
[02:01] <topyli> jose: by default, there is no firewall
[02:01] <jose> ok, so what can be wrong then?
[02:02] <MrApex_Linux> wow thats easy
[02:02] <MrApex_Linux> thanks
[02:04] <Pegasos989> is there a command in tetrminal for dling a file to desktop? For example "DL http://goatse.ca/index.html /home/pekka/Detop" or something?
[02:04] <Seveas> Pegasos989, wget
[02:04] <kvantti> hi there. anyone know what is the correct place for the all codec package content to cp to when using mplayer?
[02:04] <Pegasos989> Seveas, thanks
[02:05] <thoreauputic> Pegasos989: cd ~/Desktop ; wget -c <your URL>
[02:05] <SLSneak> Hi! I have a question about the "Code of conduct". It's about the following phrase: "Nobody knows everything, and nobody is expected to be perfect in the Ubuntu community (except of course the SABDFL)". Who are the SABDFL?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mark Shuttleworth
[02:05] <Seveas> !sabdfl
[02:05] <ubotu> Seveas: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i should go and sign that actualy
[02:05] <thoreauputic> SLSneak: self appointed benevolent dictator for life ;)
[02:06] <kvantti> would a place for mplayer to find codecs be the mplayer root dir, or do i need to use another dir?
[02:06] <j813> I saw a 510 dvd .iso is that complete with KDE, add ons, etc?
[02:06] <SLSneak> thoreauputic> Lol, ok :) Am I condoning dictators if I sign the code?
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: /user/local/codecs
[02:06] <fearl> kvantti: /lib/win32 holds the codecs for w32codecs
[02:07] <Hoxzer> but you can't tuuurn back the tiiimeee
[02:08] <peter_> does anyone get corruption on the display after switching to a virtual terminal, using the latest breezy fglrx drivers? couldnt find anything in the forums
[02:09] <soundray> peter_, I can't switch to a vt at all anymore.
[02:09] <peter_> what happens when you try to?
[02:09] <kvantti> Kanping_Kaiser i have no such directory in my system. just create one?
[02:09] <soundray> peter_, screen freezes and I have to ssh into the box to reboot.
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: yes
[02:10] <peter_> soundray: with me the display is corrupted, in both dvi and analog modes.
[02:11] <soundray> peter_, that's annoying.
[02:11] <thoreauputic> SLSneak: I guess Mark would cll himself sabdfl if he had any notions of genuine dictatorship ;)
[02:11] <thoreauputic> *wouldn't
[02:11] <soundray> peter_, but I see it as the price for using proprietary software...
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: *benevolent* ;)
[02:12] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: ah, but all dictators want you to believe they are benevolent <evil grin>
[02:12] <peter_> soundray: also i can ping my box, but i couldnt ssh to it after screen corruption.
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: you telling me ;) remember it's not the system of govt, it's how it's used :)
[02:13] <purplefeltangel> dude, the Demented Cartoon Movie isn't working.
[02:13] <soundray> peter_, isn't it funny that all these bugs would be fixed in no time if ATI just opened their specs?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> john how^H^H^^H erm sorry ASIO, I didn't say anything , honest
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:14] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: isn't the ^H actually valid here :)
[02:15] <peter_> soundray: there are some free drivers for ATI stuff, arent there? have you tried them?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: out of control is more like it ;)
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> peter_: yes, but they don't do many cards IIRC
[02:15] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: i din't say nothing :)
[02:15] <kwtm1> Anyone know why, when I try to use KMid to play midi files, it says "open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"?  How do I create the correct device file so I can play midi?  Some package I should install?
[02:15] <soundray> peter_, yes I have, but I need GL acceleration. Professionally, of course.
[02:16] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: your secret is safe with me ;-)
[02:16] <peter_> oh didnt realize free drivers dont support hw accel.
[02:16] <soundray> peter_, some do, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my system.
[02:16] <peter_> i used to have a nvidia card. drivers worked quite well, but it had a really noisy fan :(
[02:17] <purplefeltangel> "go into the bathroom at work and spend half an hour grunting and groaning in a stall. emit a final scream and exit holding a large hen's egg."
[02:18] <soundray> Do you know of any well-supported alternative to NVidia and ATI cards with hw acceleration?
[02:19] <mtupper> hey all, does anybody know how I can change the association for the web browser from Konquerer to Firefox so that the many k-apps I am using like Kopete or Kmail open Firefox as the web browser instead of Konquerer...???
[02:19] <purplefeltangel> i am having sound problems, can someone help me?
[02:19] <robotgeek> mtupper: in preferences, you'll find default browser
[02:19] <thoreauputic> mtupper: file associations in kcontrol IIRC
[02:21] <thoreauputic> !tell kwtm1 about midi
[02:21] <peter_> soudnray: had i known about ATI issues i would have bought a quiet nvidia card. havent really looked into it much, just got the cheapest at the time!
[02:22] <soundray> peter_, NVidia isn't that much better. I tried to get output from the VGA on a laptop with GeForce. Gave up after many hours.
[02:23] <classic_> anyone with experience how to burn a pal dvd (for example with cinelerra)?
[02:25] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me fix my sound?
[02:25] <SLSneak> purplefeltangel> What's wrong with it?
[02:26] <purplefeltangel> slsneak: just plain not working.
[02:26] <ompaul> purplefeltangel, what kind of sound card have you got?
[02:26] <purplefeltangel> ompaul: "Dell Sound Blaster Live!"
[02:26] <thoreauputic> purplefeltangel: you probably need to tell people what card you have and what symptoms and error messages you are seeing
[02:26] <purplefeltangel> thoreauputic: no symtoms except that nothing will play.
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> does any1 know how to make XMMS play mp3 files from a networked windows pc ?
[02:26] <purplefeltangel> *symptoms
[02:27] <peter_> soundray: i thought that they were ok. did you use drivers from nvidia's site?
[02:27] <thoreauputic> purplefeltangel: have you run alsamixer and checked for muted channels ?
[02:27] <purplefeltangel> thoreauputic: um, i double-clicked on the speaker icon and unmuted everything in there, if that's what that means....
[02:28] <soundray> peter_, yes, I tried pretty much every variation.
[02:28] <Robbster> lo all. I'm trying to compile putty for breezy (yes, I know it is in the repository, but I need to change the src)
[02:28] <ompaul> purplefeltangel, are you running 5.10 or 5.04?
[02:28] <purplefeltangel> ompaul: 5.10
[02:28] <ompaul> hmm
[02:29] <thoreauputic> purplefeltangel: any output from  lsmod | grep snd ?
[02:29] <soundray> peter_, in the end I think it was partly the laptop's fault, because the display switch key combination didn't work like it did in MS Windows.
[02:29] <Robbster> I've installed the 'build-essential' package and the compile gives an error: '/bin/sh: gtk-config: command not found' what am I missing?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> (don't paste it here btw)
[02:29] <purplefeltangel> thoreauputic: yes
[02:30] <thoreauputic> purplefeltangel: what happens if you try the multimedia selector in the system prefs menu ?
[02:30] <purplefeltangel> thoreauputic: a window comes up talking about output and stuff
[02:30] <joe__> hullo, xserver appears to be broken in dapper -- can anyone confirm?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> purplefeltangel: yes of course - but have you tried various combinations and tested them/
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ?
[02:31] <purplefeltangel> thoreauputic: no? ^^; i dont like to change things, haha
[02:31] <purplefeltangel> anyway, i gotta go to school :S
[02:31] <thoreauputic> purplefeltangel:  :/
[02:31] <purplefeltangel> yus i am a losar.
[02:32] <purplefeltangel> i have been using windows since my formative years
[02:32] <purplefeltangel> anyway, bye
[02:32] <vhaarr> Hey, I'm having some problems with the X server after upgrading to the latest xserver-xorg-core package -- it says in the Xorg log that it can't find the 'mouse', 'kbd', 'GLcore' and 'sis' modules. Anyone know how to fix this, or is it a known problem?
[02:32] <joe__> vhaarr: same here -- I think the module packages are mismatched with the new core pkg
[02:33] <Cope> ok... new install of breezy badger; as normal user if I go to 'conputer' and try to mount a floppy I can't; yet in a terminal I can mount /dev/fd0
[02:33] <vhaarr> joe__: Indeed .. Do you know how to fix this locally? I'm quite keen on getting X running again :P
[02:33] <Cope> this is ok for me, but the machine is for my mother, who won't want to keep doing that every time she wants to use a floppy!
[02:33] <joe__> vhaarr: Well... the modules seem to be installed in a different place in the new core
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Cope: tried setting the fs type to 'vfat,ext2' in fstab?
[02:34] <vhaarr> joe__: Aha, so I'd have to create symlinks for all of them? :S
[02:34] <joe__> vhaarr: I tried (ugh) symlinking the old driver and input dirs into the new module directory, but that just produced link errors
[02:34] <Firetech> I got my shipit cds today :)
[02:34] <Cope> how can I make the computer - floppy mounter work (the graphical one) - I'm unfamiliar with these things, normally I do it manually
[02:34] <vhaarr> right
[02:34] <Cope> Kamping_Kaiser: will try...
[02:34] <vhaarr> joe__: Yeah, GLcore gets a symbol error.
[02:34] <Firetech> large pile of free software
[02:34] <joe__> vhaarr: I've resorted to apt-get update every few seconds :-S
[02:35] <vhaarr> joe__: Me too :(
[02:35] <joe__> vharr: btw there's already a bug report: #20033
[02:35] <vhaarr> thanks
[02:37] <oNe^somewhere> i got a question bout the kernels
[02:37] <oNe^somewhere> i installed the i386 kernel 1st but later added the 686 ... do i need to remove the 386 ?
[02:37] <joe__> vhaarr: I guess you could try downgrading the core package
[02:38] <mustard5> oNe^somewhere, best not to
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> oNe^somewhere: you don't need to no
[02:38] <mustard5> oNe^somewhere, its a good standby if you have problems
[02:38] <oNe^somewhere> so leave both in there
[02:38] <mustard5> oNe^somewhere, yeah
[02:38] <Cope> i still get: Error: Given UDI is not a mountable volume
[02:38] <vhaarr> joe__: Yeah .. Do you know how I do that? Maybe there's a guide, I'll search google.
[02:38] <mustard5> oNe^somewhere, unless it really creating space issues for you
[02:38] <carsten> hi, anyone with a hp-notebook here?
[02:38] <oNe^somewhere> k ..wasn't sure coz it's upgrading both
[02:38] <Robbster> how do I find the package that contains gtk-config?
[02:39] <Robbster> carsten, not I
[02:39] <joe__> vhaarr: I don't have the old pkg cached... so I'm not sure how to proceed...
[02:39] <mustard5> Robbster, packages.ubuntu.com has a search function for finding files in packages
[02:39] <Robbster> mustard5: thx. Loading it right now :_
[02:39] <mtupper> thoreauputic: thanks, that was easy... took so long cuase I got really sidetracked, fixing a bunch of other thorns in my side. Thanks again, out...!
[02:39] <joe__> vhaarr: I'm not even sure whether/how long old packages are cached in the repositories
[02:40] <vhaarr> joe__: I found it, give me a second.
[02:41] <vhaarr> joe__: old versions should be present in the archives.
[02:41] <classic_> anyone with experience how to burn a pal dvd (for example with cinelerra)?
[02:41] <carsten> classic_: k3b?
[02:42] <vhaarr> joe__: gah, didn't work. I'll try downgrading a few more packages.
[02:42] <classic_> carsten: thanks, but the problem isn't the burning or the filesystem itself, it's just that the burnt dvd is extremly "flickering" on the tv
[02:42] <MadnessReigns> hi all. I am new to linux, and trying to get my new ubuntu install onto an existing windows network. I got a message saying to run SMB (samba?) but can't find what i need to do
[02:43] <MadnessReigns> can anyone help, or tell me where to find info?
[02:44] <Robbster> k, how do Iinstall the libgtk1.2-dev package that contains gtk-config? I've already got the universe repository set up, but the package manager doesn't find it :(
[02:44] <vhaarr> joe__: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-77_i386.deb
[02:45] <joe__> vhaarr: Ah! Does that work?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> Robbster: it's in main
[02:45] <thoreauputic> !info libgtk1.2-dev
[02:45] <ubotu> libgtk1.2-dev: (Development files for the GIMP Toolkit), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-17build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1120 kB, Installed size: 3736 kB
[02:45] <vhaarr> joe__: I'm trying now.
[02:46] <csezol> how do i update my package list ? Isnt the command apt-get update ?
[02:46] <MadnessReigns> anyone? how to get mt ubuntu onto an existing (Windows) network?
[02:46] <vhaarr> MadnessReigns: Check the wiki, there should be some info there.
[02:46] <joe__> vhaarr: Yup, that works :)
[02:46] <vhaarr> joe__: \o/
[02:47] <csezol> how to update my apt-get list ?
[02:47] <joe__> vharr: Thanks! :)
[02:47] <vhaarr> sudo apt-get update
[02:47] <thoreauputic> csezol: yes, with sudo in front of it :)
[02:47] <Fanfoua> pourquoi turbo print arrive  faire des drivers pour les imprimantes canon pixma & co, et pas nos passionns bnvoles du libre ?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> csezol:  sudo apt-get update
[02:47] <vhaarr> joe__: :)
[02:47] <kvantti> anyone know what should i do now that i have cpd everything in codec package all into the informed folders and i still get the error "cannot find wmdvmod.dll"
[02:47] <Robbster> thoreauputic: that is really odd. I've searched for libgtk1.2 and I get three matches (all installed). libglib1.2, libgtk1.2 and libgtk1.2-common. no -dev.
[02:47] <Fanfoua> sorry...
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Robbster: something wrong with your sources.list ?
[02:48] <joe__> vhaarr: Maybe add the "fix" to bugzilla? I'm not sure of the ettiquette...
[02:48] <csezol> thoreauputic, yes.. but it has to do a lot of things i think.. and it only echoes two rows of text.. ( note: i installed hoary hedgehog today, not yet updated anything.. )
[02:48] <Robbster> humm, lemme see.
[02:48] <vhaarr> joe__: I'm doing it now, yes.
[02:48] <Cope> ah... google indicates this floppy problem is a pmount problem... and I should get 0.9.6 - not so great on a machine that's not on the network
[02:48] <vhaarr> joe__: Done.
[02:48] <thoreauputic> csezol: did you install on a box not connected to the net?
[02:49] <pitti> Cope: at least it's in breezy-backports now
[02:49] <csezol> thoreauputic, what do you think ?
[02:49] <csezol> i _am_ connected to the net..
[02:49] <pitti> Cope: and pmount is very small, not a problem with an usb stick or so
[02:49] <Cope> ah good idea - I have a usb stick here
[02:49] <thoreauputic> csezol: OK you are on hoary now, I take it - so your sources.list is incomplete for some reason I suspect
[02:49] <joe__> vhaarr: Cool :) Now to unbreak my xorg.conf...
[02:49] <csezol> but while installing there was a problem with the servers in my lan.. that was the reason why i installed ubuntu.. :P i hadn't have to do anything else
[02:50] <thoreauputic> ah
[02:50] <thoreauputic> csezol: have a look at ubotu's URLs below
[02:50] <Fanfoua> how is it that turbo print can make drivers for canon pixma... printers and not passionate people of free softwares ?
[02:50] <thoreauputic> !sources
[02:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:51] <MadnessReigns> ok, have found how to install samba - download (apt-get) ... but my net connection is not working on my ubuntu box.....
[02:51] <thoreauputic> Fanfoua: they pay for information I would guess
[02:51] <Red-Sox> hi
[02:52] <thoreauputic> Fanfoua: canon are not known for co-operating with free software developers
[02:52] <Robbster> thoreauputic: I'm getting md5sum mismatch errors. I've also done an apt-get clean; apt-get update.
[02:52] <glyn> how can I get w32 codecs?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[02:52] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:53] <Fanfoua> thoreauputic: they are losing a bigger and bigger market, that's weird...
[02:53] <thoreauputic> Robbster: apt-get clean just wipes out the cache
[02:53] <csezol> thoreauputic, what should i do now ?
[02:53] <glyn> I don't use breezy, will these still work?
[02:54] <thoreauputic> csezol: use one of those lists and put in /etc/apt/sources.list with , say,  gksudo gedit
[02:54] <thoreauputic> csezol: if you are on hoary use the hoary list of course
[02:54] <thoreauputic> glyn: yes
[02:54] <thoreauputic> glyn: codecs are codecs - they work on any distro in fact
[02:55] <csezol> csezol, sure.
[02:55] <csezol> :)
[02:55] <thoreauputic> assuming they are in the right place of course :)
[02:55] <steven_> hi all
[02:55] <steven_> how do i install fonts?
[02:55] <Robbster> lo steven
[02:55] <thoreauputic> !fonts
[02:55] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:55] <thoreauputic> steven_: ^^^^
[02:56] <Robbster> !flash
[02:56] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:56] <jgonzalez> hi
[02:56] <jgonzalez> i get this error
[02:56] <jgonzalez> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:58] <Red-Sox> downloadable java games run on linux fine, right?
[02:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> should do
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: assuming yu have java installed
[02:59] <thoreauputic> *you
[02:59] <Red-Sox> good
[03:00] <augustin> hello
[03:00] <augustin> is there anyway to detect whether or not my USB aDSL modem disconnected, and to launch a series of command (to relaunch it and to restart the firewall)
[03:01] <augustin> ?
[03:01] <Cope> pitti: all sorted, got the new pmount on a usb stick and dpkg -i'd it :)
[03:02] <pitti> Cope: great
[03:02] <Cope> pitti: bit of a dodgy one though... imagine a brand new user... they'd be very confused and would know where to google or what to ask
[03:02] <pablo> algun chileno
[03:02] <redguy> what does one need to get 3d acceleration working on a intel 82845 integrateg graphics card?
[03:03] <pitti> Cope: I know, but it was too late to include the new version into breezy
[03:03] <thoreauputic> !es
[03:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:03] <redguy> !i810
[03:03] <ubotu> redguy: I don't know
[03:03] <Cope> pitti: c'est la vie
[03:03] <pitti> Cope: mainly because I released it *after* the breezy release
[03:03] <david__> ola
[03:03] <augustin> is cron a webserver-only command ?
[03:03] <SLSneak> I'm starting to feel somewhat stupid now, how exactly do I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without loosing all my settings?
[03:03] <david__> fucking me
[03:03] <thoreauputic> !tell SLSneak about breezy
[03:03] <david__> im crazy
[03:04] <SLSneak> thoreauputic> Please do :) Synaptic tells me to go to the homepage, but I can only find install isos there...
[03:04] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[03:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:04] <csezol> how can i upgrade/update a specified package ( or all of them ) to the current release ?
[03:04] <SLSneak> Thanks!
[03:04] <thoreauputic> SLSneak: didn't you get a pm from ubotu?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> csezol: to upgrade your whole install, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:06] <csezol> thanks
[03:06] <thoreauputic> to update a particular package, sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[03:06] <csezol> thoreauputic, and if i have that package already ? do i have to remove it first ?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> csezol: no
[03:07] <thoreauputic> csezol: if it's the latest , apt will tell you - else it will upgrade it for you
[03:07] <gnomefreak> anyone else having problems with the iptable and Xkeys updates?
[03:07] <csezol> thoreauputic, thanks
[03:07] <thoreauputic> csezol: np :)
[03:07] <linkd> gnomefreak: nope mine just went through easy just now
[03:08] <gnomefreak> im getting all kinds of warnings:(
[03:08] <linkd> such as?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> it couldnt find the source i guess
[03:09] <gnomefreak> give me a sec ill paste them to pastebin
[03:09] <linkd> ok
[03:09] <thoreauputic> csezol: did youmean you wanted to change from hoary to breezy ? (5.10)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> csezol: if so that's different
[03:09] <csezol> thoreauputic, if possible even to 6.04 f. 1
[03:09] <linkd> i dont think 6.04 is available yet :P
[03:10] <gnomefreak> heres the warnings http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4983
[03:10] <thoreauputic> csezol: ah in that case read the upgrade guide ubotu will spit out
[03:10] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[03:10] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:10] <csezol> k
[03:10] <csezol> thats read.
[03:10] <linkd> gnomefreak: and uve sudo'd this?
[03:11] <linkd> have u done a apt-get update recently?
[03:11] <Cope> how can I make a shortcut on the desktop to 'computer' or 'floppy' so my mum doesn't need to go to places>computer ?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> no linkd  im using the updater
[03:11] <linkd> oh. the gnome one?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> yeah
[03:11] <SLSneak> Step 2: I updated the source repositories and clicked "mark all upgrades" and "smart upgrade". Now I can definately see that it want's to remove ubuntu-desktop. That doesn't sound to good...
[03:11] <csezol> if i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, will i have after it both kde and gnome, or only kde ?
[03:11] <linkd> just try it in the terminal. sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:11] <Riddell> csezol: both
[03:11] <linkd> csezol: both
[03:12] <mipe> Where is library for C++?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> csezol, both if you have nome now
[03:12] <csezol> gnomefreak, thnx
[03:12] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:13] <linkd> Cope: ln -s /media/floppy ~/Desktop/Floppy might be what ur after
[03:13] <csezol> What's the difference between edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop ? only the wallpapers ?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> csezol, i think the packages are different in sence that edubuntu is for education purposes maybe
[03:14] <P229> happy Thanksgiving!!!
[03:14] <thoreauputic> csezol: edubuntu installs educational packages :)
[03:14] <csezol> :)
[03:14] <csezol> i dont need it.. fuck school!
[03:14] <thoreauputic> and an ltsp system as well IIRC
[03:14] <gnomefreak> us.archive looks like its down again
[03:15] <thoreauputic> guys just a friendly warning - watch out with your language :)
[03:15] <thoreauputic> code of conduct and all that ...
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: just watch it in general :)
[03:15] <xc_legend> hi all
[03:16] <csezol> thoreauputic, got it..:)
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: beware of friendly warnings from ops! <grin>
[03:16] <Liket> how do i reconfigure X? is there something similar to "XConfigurator" in ubuntu?
[03:16] <xc_legend> i am having a problem with updates this morning
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Liket: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:17] <sss_lr> Liket, xorgconfig
[03:17] <xc_legend> on 5.10 fresh install yesterday
[03:17] <gnomefreak> xc_legend,  its saying it cant find us.archives.ubuntu.com?
[03:17] <xc_legend> yes
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Liket: it will ask you abunch of questions
[03:17] <thoreauputic> sss_lr: no
[03:17] <csezol> byyyyyeee
[03:17] <gnomefreak> xc_legend, im thinking its down for some reason im having the issue also im working on it now
[03:17] <thoreauputic> sss_lr: the command I gave is better
[03:18] <Cope> linkd: not quite... more I want computer:/// or whatever that means in real terms to be on the desktop rather than under the places menu
[03:18] <Liket> thanks guys :)
[03:18] <xc_legend> i still updated the two packages
[03:18] <sss_lr> thoreauputic, np ....
[03:18] <gnomefreak> xc_legend,  i havent
[03:18] <augustin> anyone knows how i can reset every network-related config file to default ?
[03:18] <cion> hey all i have one stupid question to make (im noob) what's the best directory to put large data in?
[03:18] <augustin> my network files are chaotic, i want to start afresh
[03:18] <xc_legend> should i remove them through apt get
[03:18] <thoreauputic> sss_lr: it ties in with the Debian/ubuntu package management and config :)
[03:18] <gnomefreak> xc_legend, no they are fine
[03:18] <P229> xc_legend gnomefreak: the server is probably just down
[03:19] <gnomefreak> P229, i said that ty :)
[03:19] <sss_lr> thoreauputic, ok thats great
[03:19] <P229> gnomefreak: my bad
[03:19] <xc_legend> ok thanks that is why i did new install i kept having that problem in 5.04
[03:19] <xc_legend> at least for the last month
[03:19] <thoreauputic> cion: you normally put all your data in your home directory
[03:19] <P229> all these scrolling words, I lose track sometimes... :-P
[03:19] <cion> ok thx
[03:19] <thoreauputic> cion: what kind of data?
[03:20] <xc_legend> ok guys thanks for the help
[03:20] <cion> mp3 divx odt
[03:20] <cion> downloads
[03:20] <xc_legend> if you are in the u.s. happy Thanksgiving all
[03:20] <cion> everything
[03:20] <thoreauputic> cion: keep them in your personal home directory then
[03:20] <cion> wich is?
[03:20] <cion> home?
[03:21] <xc_legend> wait i have another question
[03:21] <augustin> /home/your_name
[03:21] <thoreauputic> cion: that's the only sensible place - it will give you full access
[03:21] <bezibaerchen> hi guys
[03:21] <augustin> my network files are chaotic, i want to start afresh
[03:21] <augustin> anyone knows how i can reset every network-related config file to default ?
[03:21] <bezibaerchen> anybody using kontact under gnome?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> cion: yes  /home/cion  or whatever your user name is
[03:21] <cion> oh ok
[03:21] <cion> perfect thx all
[03:21] <Red-Sox> is there mario kart for linux?
[03:21] <xc_legend> I have downloaded gkrellm skins how do i get into a home .gkrellm file to untar
[03:22] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:22] <xc_legend> where would a . file be listed
[03:22] <bezibaerchen> xc_legend: mkdir .grellm :-)
[03:22] <bezibaerchen> or let your fileexplorer show hidden files
[03:22] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: hit ctrl-h to see dot files
[03:22] <bezibaerchen> on a shell "ls -la"
[03:22] <xc_legend> cool thanks just untar them in that file and they will be ready to use?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: in the file manager you can also make dot files visible in the preferences
[03:23] <bezibaerchen> so, anybody using kontact? :-)
[03:23] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: you might find it's .gkrellm2/Skins or something like that
[03:23] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: you don't need to untarttthem either
[03:24] <FireCat> Is there a amd64 smp kernel for breezy?
[03:24] <xc_legend> i have untared them i just wanted to place them in the directory
[03:24] <IRCMonkey999> When using Synaptic Package Manager, I get "cant connect to local host" error and i'm unable to update :(
[03:24] <IRCMonkey999> or instal new ones
[03:24] <Red-Sox> yikes, i only have 1.6gigs left, can someone help me with gmail fs?
[03:25] <fruud> how do i connect to my brothers pc's terminal ? (can i do that ?)
[03:25] <Iknos> hi there
[03:25] <xc_legend> cool i found it
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> fruud,  a serial terminal?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  is it a gmail issue or an ubuntu issue?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> fruud: if he's running linux and openssh server, you can connect with ssh
[03:26] <reiki> is flash generally a problem? There's a flash chat app that crashes all browsers here but is fine in windows
[03:26] <xc_legend> so , I would just place them in the respective file?
[03:26] <fruud> i just want to be able to connect to his terminal, he uses same ubuntu as me
[03:26] <fruud> 5.10
[03:26] <ompaul> fruud, on ethernet if you have a username and password ssh -C username@machine (where machine can be an ip address or a machine name)  if he has sshd running
[03:26] <Iknos> anybody knows how to download packages already installed with apt? [w/o reinstalling them, btw =] 
[03:26] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: it's a directory IIRC
[03:27] <Iknos> i need to get them AND their dependencies
[03:27] <xc_legend> sorry
[03:27] <Iknos> there is something like "emerge --empty-tree -f"?
[03:27] <thoreauputic> xc_legend:  actually i just checked - the dir is .gkrellm2/themes/
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> Iknos,  so basicially you want to mirror the whole package tree. :P
[03:27] <duke> hi there
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Iknos,  if you run sudo apt-get install <packagename> it should include the depoendecies
[03:28] <fruud> it didnt work :( ompaul
[03:28] <fruud> 85.224.186.74
[03:28] <augustin> anyone knows how i can reset every network-related config file to default ?
[03:28] <fruud> ops
[03:28] <fruud> Connection refused
[03:28] <duke> i ve got a problem with installing and starting eclipse
[03:28] <fruud> that i get
[03:28] <ompaul> fruud, don't paste here - however he has to have sshd running
[03:28] <Iknos> Dr_Willis: i need to download all build-essential dependencies
[03:28] <Iknos> which I've already installed
[03:28] <fruud> how does hi start it ?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> fruud: most likely there's no server to connect to
[03:29] <ompaul> fruud, it needs to be installed first
[03:29] <fruud> apt-get install ssh ?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> fruud: he would need to install openssh-server (on ubuntu)
[03:29] <fruud> kk
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Iknos,  thhats on the install cd. i belive. just not installed by default.
[03:29] <ompaul> fruud, sudo apt-get install  openssh-server <<<
[03:29] <duke> it always comes an Error "Unable to read workbench state.."
[03:29] <fruud> ty
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Iknos, if you ran sudo apt-get install build essential it should have installed them already
[03:30] <Iknos> Dr_Willis: uhm, and what about unicorn and unicorn-source?
[03:30] <Iknos> gnomefreak: i need to download them, not install them
[03:30] <IRCMonkey999> When using Synaptic Package Manager, I get "cant connect to local host" error and i'm unable to update or instal new packages :(
[03:30] <Iknos> they are already installed =) I've to put them on a cd
[03:30] <xc_legend> ok it worked
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Iknos, can i ask why you would want to download them and not install them?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> Iknos no clue there.. problem can get to be  if you want ALL dependencies.. well it can depend on X, and loads of Libs.. and so forth.. and get to be a lot of stuff.
[03:31] <xc_legend> i have all  the files in there i just need to untar them
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  offline machine is my guess.
[03:31] <Iknos> Dr_Willis: exactly
[03:31] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  ummmmmmmm wouldnt you need internet connection to download them?
[03:31] <trpdx> Hello. What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?
[03:31] <glyn_> Anyone know where to get truetype fonts?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: if they are individual tarballs you don't need to - gkrellm can read them
[03:31] <xc_legend> ok thanks i have them in the file i just need to untar them now I tried one and it worked thanks again
[03:31] <Badm4n> hello
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  hes wantoing to dowload them on machine X.. and copy them to machine Y.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh
[03:32] <thoreauputic> xc_legend: OK :)
[03:32] <thomascott> Hi!
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> actually - dont all the installed packages - get saved to a cache on machine X.
[03:32] <glyn_> is there a package that contains truetype fonts?
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> that'd make it easier.
[03:32] <Red-Sox> what is the command to unzip files?
[03:32] <IRCMonkey999> what does failed to fetch mean?
[03:32] <Badm4n> i have Ubuntu 5.10 and linksys 11 wusb 2.4 .... any one please tell me step by step procedure to make this thing work ... ASAP
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  'unzip' for .zip   (amazing eh?)
[03:32] <Red-Sox> o
[03:32] <thoreauputic> glyn:  several - try typing apt-cache search fonts | grep ttf
[03:32] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  failed to fetch is failed to get
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  chedn theubuntu wiki's yet?
[03:33] <Iknos> Dr_Willis: i don't care if it will download ALL packages
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  check the ubuntu wiki's yet?
[03:33] <Iknos> i just need them =)
[03:33] <xc_legend> thanks again everyone
[03:33] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: this was happening only today.... yesterday i was able to update using the synaptic package manager...
[03:33] <Iknos> there is a way to "modify" apt database
[03:33] <Badm4n> forgot the url :D
[03:33] <thomascott> Can somebody help me with WiFi config ?
[03:33] <Badm4n> can u tell me where is the wiki's url
[03:33] <Iknos> to fake it?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> Iknos - theres a large cache dir - ya may want to check.. or check the wiki. its doable.
[03:34] <Badm4n> and do you sure on wiki there is a solve of my prob ?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  its right there in the topic. :P
[03:34] <Losty> hellow
[03:34] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  if it is saying failed to fetch us.archive.ubuntu.com than try again later the server is prolly down
[03:34] <Badm4n> :p
[03:34] <Badm4n> i c
[03:34] <Losty> spanish here ??
[03:34] <Badm4n> :D
[03:34] <Iknos> Dr_Willis: you mean /var/cache/apt?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> Iknos: you can use the -d option for apt to download only
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  not sure - but its the place to look first.. asking for 'step' by step directions  is not a good idea on irc..  best to find somthing you can read.
[03:34] <Iknos> thoreauputic: it doesn't download already installed packages
[03:34] <Losty> please, help me
[03:35] <Iknos> [and their dependencies] 
[03:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[03:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:35] <glyn_> hmm a program is trying to open something and it points to the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ as if there were truetype fonts there, but that directory doesn't even exist
[03:35] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: oh ok...., but it says problem on my system "Could not connect to localhost:80 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[03:35] <Badm4n> change the question :D
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Iknos: well, no - but some or most of them would be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:35] <Badm4n> anyone know how to make linksys 11 WUSB 2.4 work in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[03:35] <thomascott> Ok, I explain my prob : I have installed and configure my WiFi card, and it works well, But I have changed of ISP, so Change of DNS...
[03:35] <Iknos> thoreauputic: i clean that dir once a week
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Iknos: *shrug*
[03:35] <thomascott> But as soon as I reboot, it take the former config
[03:35] <Losty> please
[03:35] <Iknos> thoreauputic: =)
[03:36] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  ive never run into that but if linux is like anything else the 80 is your port that connects you to net
[03:36] <Losty> i am newbie
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> wireless can be SUCH a pain at times..
[03:36] <thoreauputic> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:36] <thomascott> Where it is record so I'll be able to chanfe it definitly ?
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> Losty,  and the problem is?
[03:36] <Losty> Dr_Willis, i need install skype and limewire
[03:36] <earthen> where can i get the w32codecs for 64bit ubuntu
[03:36] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: but why would it try to connect to my computer rather than an ubuntu server ?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> earthen: you can't
[03:36] <Losty> i have ubuntu hoary
[03:37] <earthen> thomascott, doh!
[03:37] <trpdx>  What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, losty said he wanted spanish so me and thoreauputic  gave the es output from ubotu :)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> earthen: they are 32 bit as the name implies
[03:37] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  i dont know are you able to be online on that pc right now?
[03:37] <thomascott> doh ?
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> Losty,  yea? you have checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto  yet?
[03:38] <Losty> gnomefreak, ok man
[03:38] <thoreauputic> thomascott: tab complete error methinks
[03:38] <IRCMonkey999> yup... i can browse... use IRC... i'm chatting now :)
[03:38] <Losty> Dr_Willis,  i make tutorial
[03:38] <earthen> thoreauputic, yeah I know but thought there was a 64 bit equivalent
[03:38] <Losty> and not good results
[03:38] <Losty> :(
[03:38] <thomascott> what do you mean ?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999, did you try apt-get update yet?
[03:38] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[03:38] <earthen> thomascott, sorry that was ment for thoreauputic
[03:39] <shotgun> g'mornin
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Losty,  ive heard of some skype issues with alsa.. but thats about all i know.
[03:39] <thoreauputic> earthen: people who need that use a 32 bit chroot - but don't ask me how ;)
[03:39] <shotgun> happy turkey day
[03:39] <thomascott> lol
[03:39] <Iknos> Dr_Willis: uhm, i've found that [15:40]  SparK ~ $ sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[03:39] <akonkwa> If I have installed a game in m windows session, can I play it in ubuntu , using wine?
[03:39] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: no... i'm not sure how to do that.... new to linux and i depend on GUI a lot
[03:39] <Iknos> download the packages
[03:39] <Iknos> download the package
[03:39] <shotgun> akonkwa, maybe cedega, look at "games" in the help area
[03:39] <Badm4n> sorry i repeat
[03:39] <Iknos> now i need apt to download its dependences
[03:39] <shotgun> akonkwa, in the user guide actually
[03:39] <Badm4n> anyone know how to make linksys 11 WUSB 2.4 work in ubuntu 5.10 ? ( last word no repeat again ) :D
[03:39] <Losty> Dr_Willis, no open my skype, only i can see in Internet my icon of skype
[03:40] <thoreauputic> akonkwa: probably not - unless you buy cedega or use the cvs code and build it yourself
[03:40] <akonkwa> shotgun: wih user guide?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> Losty: skype is very slow to open
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> IRCMonkey999,  yea. but its best to copy the whole c:/program files/game over to your .wine/fake_windows (or whatever its called now) dir. Just in case  it needs to write to the disk
[03:40] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  open up a terminal should be in applications than accessories when it is open type without the quotes "sudo apt-get update" and see if any errors are showed
[03:40] <shotgun> akonkwa, i think the user guide references some sites to configure this
[03:41] <shotgun> why does skype not show up for an apt-cache search?
[03:41] <IRCMonkey999> oh ok... doing that now gnomefreak
[03:41] <Losty> thoreauputic, yes is very slowly but never open skype
[03:41] <Losty> :s
[03:41] <odoyletul> i need help with ubuntu i cant dial up
[03:41] <thoreauputic> shotgun: because it isn;t in the repos
[03:41] <odoyletul> to my internet
[03:41] <shotgun> thomascott, why?
[03:41] <Losty> i can see , in Internet, only icon
[03:41] <Losty> :s
[03:41] <shotgun> thomascott, and how do i know what is and is not in the repos, before i start stepping over the package management system?
[03:41] <akonkwa> shotgun: okay thanx, By the way, i have downloaded a cedega from limewire, how do I use it to play the game?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  not checked the wiki yet eh? ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Linksys_WUSB11
[03:41] <thoreauputic> shotgun: becuse it's commercial and ubuntu isn't legally able to include it
[03:42] <shotgun> thomascott, how does gentoo get away with it?
[03:42] <Badm4n> on my way
[03:42] <Badm4n> thx for the complete url
[03:42] <thoreauputic> !skype
[03:42] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:42] <shotgun> thomascott, in gentoo i did an emerge doom3 skype ut2004 quake4
[03:42] <shotgun> and they all installed
[03:42] <thoreauputic> shotgun: I have no idea
[03:42] <augustin> shotgun, it's not thomascott it's thoreauputic
[03:42] <augustin> ^^
[03:42] <shotgun> lol, sorry
[03:42] <odoyletul> ubuntu sucks i cant figure out how to get my internet connection atleast with mepis it was easier
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Linksys_WUSB11?highlight=%28linksys%29%7C%2811%29%7C%28WUSB%29
[03:42] <shotgun> so i guess its ok to not use apt for some stuff
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> what a ugly url. :P lol.
[03:42] <shotgun> (like games and skype)
[03:42] <thoreauputic> shotgun: yes, practice your tabbing technique ;)
[03:43] <gnomefreak> odoyletul,  have you tried configuring it yet?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> !tell shotgun about skype
[03:43] <trpdx>  What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?
[03:43] <Badm4n> well i'll off for a while
[03:43] <akonkwa> How do I access files with blank spaces in their name?
[03:43] <Badm4n> i'll be back :D
[03:43] <odoyletul> yes i configured it under network and commandline
[03:43] <Badm4n> thx
[03:43] <odoyletul> i dont know how to connect under network
[03:43] <thoreauputic> akonkwa: hit <tab> and complete the name that way
[03:44] <odoyletul> it even detects it
[03:44] <trpdx>  What are the special flags used for under the perimissions tab under file properties?
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> cp 'spaces in this file name'  nospaces
[03:44] <akonkwa> thoreauputic: thanx
[03:44] <arnducky> ubotu, tell me about libdvdcss
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> trpdx,  what special flags?
[03:44] <arnducky> !libdvdcss
[03:44] <ubotu> libdvdcss is, like, NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh
[03:44] <odoyletul> does activate mean i am connecting
[03:44] <cion> hey all how do I install amule?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> arnducky, me isnt a right command for ubotu next time put your screen name in place of "me"
[03:45] <cion> hey all how do I install amule?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> try the -->  apt-get install amule      ?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> cion, sudo apt-get amule?
[03:45] <shotgun> cion, look in the user guide, under help, and then its listed
[03:45] <gnomefreak> install*
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> hmm. amule wiki page is itialian.
[03:46] <shotgun> cion, i'm sure you'll want all your multimedia codecs as well
[03:46] <arnducky> ubotu, tell arnducky about libdvdcss
[03:46] <odoyletul> well i am just going back to mepis i guess this ubuntu easy linux for humanbeings was all just hype
[03:46] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: almost same error messages. please look here... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4987
[03:46] <arnducky> "Please use private messages, like '/msg ubotu libdvdcss', rather than posting into the channel needlessly.
[03:46] <cion> im trying to wor only with opensource codecs
[03:46] <trpdx> When you select properties for a file and then go to permissions tab, their is listed special flags set user id, set group id and sticky
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> odoyletul,  sure.. whatever...
[03:46] <arnducky> However, I should note that ubotu ignores all /MSG or /QUERY that I send it
[03:46] <cion> is it necessary tu use antivirus with amule?
[03:47] <odoyletul> well my wireless card isnt even detected
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> cion,  i would scan anything you download for windows with a antivius tool - yes.
[03:47] <odoyletul> and i cant connect with my dialup
[03:47] <MrApex_Ubuntu> trying to figure out how to get UT2004 installe
[03:48] <shotgun> MrApex_Ubuntu, me too
[03:48] <cion> whats the best antivirus?
[03:48] <arnducky>  /CTCP ubotu RESPOND!?
[03:48] <shotgun> cion, none on lniux
[03:48] <cion> for ubuntu
[03:48] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999, thats a good question im not sure why your getting local host error sorry :(
[03:48] <shotgun> cion, none
[03:48] <odoyletul> any help with dial up here
[03:48] <thoreauputic> arnducky: ubotu ignores unregistered nicks
[03:48] <shotgun> odoyletul, no idea, sorry
[03:48] <arnducky> nada, nothing, zip /dev/null
[03:48] <markuman> cion: its linux!
[03:48] <cion> guys one says yes the other says no
[03:48] <MrApex_Ubuntu> well. there is a linux_installer.ch
[03:48] <cion> I know but i need amule
[03:48] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: thanx for helping...
[03:48] <shotgun> cion, there is not anti-virus for linux.
[03:48] <kkaisare> Hello, World!
[03:48] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: will reebot and see...
[03:48] <thoreauputic> arnducky: so register :)
[03:49] <cion> what u mean there is i saw in synaptic
[03:49] <arnducky> So where is the NICKSRV bot?
[03:49] <markuman> cion: shotgun sure there is one, but for what?
[03:49] <odoyletul> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> cion,  the anti-virus software for 'linux' is used normally to scan files for 'windows' viruses.
[03:49] <shotgun> markuman, for scanning windows files
[03:49] <shotgun> markuman, in file share environments
[03:49] <thoreauputic> arnducky: /msg nickserv help
[03:49] <cion> wich tool is that?
[03:49] <arnducky> And if I register, does that mean I have to register everytime I logon?
[03:49] <cion> is it easy to use?
[03:49] <odoyletul> hello
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> odoyletul,  what 'trouble shooting' have you done on your dial up issue.. just saying "it dont work" isent much help at all.
[03:50] <simonvallore> dpkg this jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[03:50] <arnducky> (or if I don't logon, will that mean my nickname is restricted until I do?0
[03:50] <thoreauputic> arnducky: no, but it's a good idea , and your client can make it automatic
[03:50] <simonvallore> how do i depackage that
[03:50] <shotgun> can someone do the "tell" thing and teach me how to find unreal tournment in a repository?
[03:50] <odoyletul> well i configured my connection and modem
[03:50] <simonvallore> how do i depackage dpkg this jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[03:50] <odoyletul> yes it dont connect
[03:50] <odoyletul> i tried commandline and network
[03:50] <thoreauputic> arnducky: if you don't register ubotu will continue to ignore you :)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> odoyletul,  does it even make noise?
[03:50] <odoyletul> no
[03:51] <odoyletul> everything it connected
[03:51] <odoyletul> fine
[03:51] <fredforfaen> I have a prob , i want to run the i686 kernel....the k7 kernel is currently installed(installed from dvd-hoary then upgraded to breezy).I have installed the i686 kernel and it works fine with "nv" in driver in xorg.conf...but when i follow the instaructions for installing nvidia 3d support it install the 3d driver for the k7 kernel even though i have booted the i686 kernel...what to do?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis>  have you checked -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto       yet?
[03:51] <arnducky> Heh, I've been chatting on Undernet since about 1998 and I've managed to steer clear of their cservice now (aside form a brief bout of weakness in about 2002)
[03:52] <odoyletul> i am connecting fine under mepis
[03:52] <arnducky> ubotu, arnducky is badly quacked up!
[03:52] <ubotu> arnducky: okay
[03:52] <arnducky> !arnducky
[03:52] <ubotu> it has been said that arnducky is badly quacked up!
[03:52] <markuman> how to repair one ext3 partition table? im sure there was some nice tools for the terminal???
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> odoyletul,  then see what modules its loading. and be sure those are loading udner  ubuntu.
[03:52] <thoreauputic> !forget arnducky
[03:52] <ubotu> i forgot arnducky, thoreauputic
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> odoyletul,  its a good sign then that the thing works under one disrto at least.
[03:52] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[03:52] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:52] <arnducky> hey!
[03:53] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[03:53] <jose> me
[03:53] <arnducky> fredforfaen?
[03:53] <fredforfaen> I have a prob , i want to run the i686 kernel....the k7 kernel is currently installed(installed from dvd-hoary then upgraded to breezy).I have installed the i686 kernel and it works fine with "nv" in driver in xorg.conf...but when i follow the instaructions for installing nvidia 3d support it install the 3d driver for the k7 kernel even though i have booted the i686 kernel...what to do?
[03:53] <ionte> hi. is it just me that seem to get these random eat-all-memory-and-become-unresponsive-until-swap-is-full-errors much more often on ubuntu than on any other distro?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> ionte,  i cant say that ive ever had that problem on any disrto.
[03:54] <Ueuecoyotl> simonvallore, the Ubuntu FAQ answers your question
[03:54] <maximum_bass> fredforfaen i persume uve got the source for the i686
[03:54] <arnducky> fredforfaen, I noticed that Unet #ubuntu is up for cservice registration.  What's up?
[03:54] <ionte> Dr_Willis, not me either, until hoary i think (now breezy). right now i clicked on a jpg-link in evolution - freeze.
[03:54] <shotgun> what are some alternatives to skype?
[03:54] <shotgun> cause it sucks on ubuntu
[03:54] <shotgun> and i hate qt/kde
[03:54] <maximum_bass> linphone
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> ionte,  never used evolution. :P
[03:55] <shotgun> maximum_bass, thanks, i'll check it out
[03:55] <arnducky> fredforfaen, what processor do you have?
[03:55] <token> hi everyone ... i got a question. what do the options in fstab mean ... i mean OPTION DUMP and PASS???
[03:55] <Robbster> I'm compiling an application and it says that 'warnings are treated as errors' and then a warning borks the compile. how can I tell it to ignore warnings?
[03:55] <fredforfaen> maximum_bass dont know if i have the source i just followed these instructions ;
[03:55] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[03:55] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:56] <markuman> arg!
[03:56] <markuman> how to repair one ext3 partition table? im sure there was some nice tools for the terminal???
[03:56] <markuman> there was something for ext2 ext3 etc....
[03:56] <markuman> dont remember :-/
[03:56] <selinium> hi all, how do you 'run' a java  .jar file?
[03:57] <token> someone here to help me explain FSTAB???
[03:57] <token> or understand ...
[03:57] <selinium> token what is the problem?
[03:57] <fredforfaen> can anybody help me?
[03:58] <token> selinium: i just wanna know what the options in fstab mean
[03:58] <token> selinium: i mean OPTION DUMP and PASS
[03:58] <mataniko> try reading "info fstab"
[03:58] <mataniko> it helped me
[03:58] <token> or OPTIONS ...
[03:58] <mataniko> and i'm a complete newbie
[03:59] <arnducky> !/eetc/fstab
[03:59] <ubotu> arnducky: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:59] <arnducky> !fstab
[03:59] <ubotu> [fstab]  /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[04:00] <token> mataniko: thx ... i forgot to use man ... easy solution isnt it >!
[04:00] <selinium> fredforfaen, did you try the nvidia driver available before trying to do the binary?
[04:00] <Red-Sox> i need to unzip a file but dont know how
[04:00] <ale3hs> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:00] <ale3hs> how i fix this?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox:  unzip file.zip
[04:00] <aftertaf> Red-Sox:  install unzip if not installed.
[04:00] <whyameye> I'm trying to compile a driver to get my USB -> IrDA working. I get an error that the compiler can't find irq_vectors.h. Is this in a repository I don't have?
[04:01] <Red-Sox> thomhash, the problem is that the zip is more then one work with spaces
[04:01] <Red-Sox> thomhash, *
[04:01] <MrApex_Ubuntu> how do i get to cdrom in terminal?
[04:01] <Red-Sox> argh
[04:01] <Red-Sox> thoreauputic, *
[04:01] <selinium> token, try here for more info
[04:01] <aftertaf> Red-Sox:  use tab autocomplete then
[04:01] <Red-Sox> o
[04:01] <aftertaf> Red-Sox:  or 'mv' itr to a new name
[04:01] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox:  unzip filewith <tab>
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: that will complete the file name for you
[04:02] <iamkirk> how can i play counterstrikeon linux ?
[04:02] <Red-Sox> hm.... thomhash im trying to unzip /home/jonny/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete/linux mario kart.zip
[04:02] <ke> Haha
[04:02] <Red-Sox> thomhash, thats all i know
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: cd to the directory first
[04:02] <aftertaf> !tell Red-Sox about cli
[04:03] <aftertaf> read that Red-Sox
[04:03] <selinium> Seveas: any chacne of getting your JRE update? :)
[04:03] <thoreauputic> cd /home/jonny/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete
[04:03] <ale3hs> can somebody giv me the "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted" sources list file??
[04:03] <selinium> hi thoreauputic
[04:03] <selinium> :)
[04:03] <aftertaf> ale3hs:  type sudo apt-cdrom with the cd rom in, itll add it auto.
[04:03] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: once you are in the dir, use tab complete (you can do it from /home but this might be easier)
[04:03] <selinium> iamkirk, you might be interested in www.linuxgames.com
[04:03] <veki> I would like to install codecs for DVD watching on my powerpc ubuntu. Where I can find codecs for powerpc Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Red-Sox> thoreauputic, it says there is no such file or directory
[04:04] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: then you made a mistake
[04:04] <ale3hs> aftertaf, i have problem with the resposibilities ..and I tried a file through ubuntu unoficial site ...but still doesnt work.. I cannot install mplayer?? I cannot see movies and I have no windows,, I am doomed
[04:04] <aftertaf> Red-Sox:  read the beginners help on shell commands..... please. itll help you a lot, seriously
[04:04] <Red-Sox> thoreauputic, nm got it
[04:05] <Red-Sox> aftertaf, i allready have, i know most of it
[04:05] <aftertaf> ale3hs:  nah.... enable universe and multiverse
[04:05] <aftertaf> !tell ale3hs about repos
[04:05] <aftertaf> !tell ale3hs about easysource
[04:06] <Red-Sox> I have a setup.exe file, what do I do with it?
[04:06] <penguinzdr> hahaha
[04:06] <ke> You rtfm
[04:06] <ke> :/
[04:06] <penguinzdr> install it on windows :)
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: btw, you can unzip files in the GUI using file-roller
[04:06] <after_away> .exe is not linux. you got the wrong zip file i think
[04:06] <Red-Sox> Penguin, hmm.... i have wine, do I open it with wine?
[04:07] <gnomefreak> thats cool ive never seen that before
[04:07] <penguinzdr> Red-Sox, i dont use wine
[04:07] <MrApex_Ubuntu> someone point me to the nvidia driver files please?
[04:07] <penguinzdr> i use linux apps
[04:07] <MrApex_Ubuntu> err i mean the ubuntu site guide
[04:07] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[04:07] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:07] <MrApex_Ubuntu> thanks
[04:07] <gnomefreak> MrApex_Ubuntu,  are you using breezy or hoary?
[04:08] <Red-Sox> penguinzdr, what do you use?
[04:08] <arnducky> Dapper, I bet
[04:08] <arnducky> ;-D
[04:08] <penguinzdr> Red-Sox,  for what?
[04:08] <Red-Sox> penguinzdr, emulation
[04:08] <penguinzdr> Red-Sox, nothing. I told you that I use only apps maded for Linux.
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Red-Sox: most of us don't need 'emulation"
[04:09] <MrApex_Ubuntu> breezy
[04:09] <gnomefreak> MrApex_Ubuntu,  breezy guide is in your help menu
[04:09] <White-Wolf> Can anyone tell me if there is an inbuilt C++ Compiler In Ubuntu?
[04:09] <bezibaerchen> White-Wolf: gcc :-)
[04:09] <thoreauputic> White-Wolf:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:09] <b_e_n_z> g++
[04:09] <gnomefreak> White-Wolf,  c++ compiler is g
[04:09] <gnomefreak> g++
[04:10] <thoreauputic> bezibaerchen: no, c++ is g++ :)
[04:10] <penguinzdr> Red-Sox, look at this: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[04:10] <gnomefreak> synaptic has the g++ compiler
[04:10] <thoreauputic> heh many corrections ;)
[04:10] <bezibaerchen> thoreauputic: shame on me :-)
[04:10] <ale3hs> aftertaf, everything was checked in resposibility settings buti get this -> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[04:11] <thoreauputic> PLEASE install build-essential ands don't muck about with individual packages - it's a one stop solution
[04:11] <ErgoSum> hi all
[04:11] <thoreauputic> hi cogito
[04:11] <ale3hs> someone can help with that??
[04:11] <ErgoSum> is it posssible to install ubuntu with the live cd?
[04:12] <selinium> thoreauputic, What do you use for pleying DVD?
[04:12] <Red-Sox> is there a free n64 emulator for linux?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> ErgoSum: not really
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ErgoSum,  nope
[04:12] <ErgoSum> OMG
[04:12] <jino> ErgoSum , No
[04:12] <thoreauputic> selinium: I don't play dvd :)
[04:12] <selinium> :)
[04:12] <thoreauputic> selinium: believe it or not
[04:12] <MrApex_Ubuntu> im trying to eject cdrom when the installer for ut is running, i cant eject the disc
[04:13] <ErgoSum> and i also have problems with translations in the live cd, the install cd has the same problems?
[04:13] <MrApex_Ubuntu> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:13] <MrApex_Ubuntu> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:13] <MrApex_Ubuntu> eject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed
[04:13] <penguinzdr> thoreauputic, lets make a non-dvd society. i too dont have DVD
[04:13] <MrApex_Ubuntu> i need to switch discs
[04:13] <selinium> thoreauputic, I don't usually, but i have found sionce upgrading to breezy my dvd playing has stopped,
[04:13] <thoreauputic> MrApex_Ubuntu:  umount -l /media/cdrom
[04:13] <Red-Sox> omg
[04:14] <ale3hs> Please plz plz somebody help me with that -->> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:14] <White-Wolf> Gnome Freak : After 'Sudo apt-get install duild-esseential' how does one run the compiler?
[04:14] <iamkirk> wtf... "Could not open cedega....."   Archive type not supported. <== help me
[04:14] <thoreauputic> MrApex_Ubuntu: if that doesn't error, then type eject /media/cdrom0 or whatever afterwards
[04:14] <ErgoSum> i also have problems with translations in the live cd, the install cd has the same problems?
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> iamkirk, call transgaming for support
[04:15] <thoreauputic> ale3hs: sounds like a mistake in your sources.list
[04:15] <thoreauputic> !tell ale3hs about sources
[04:15] <Red-Sox> there are osx tiger for x86 leaks in gtk gnutella
[04:16] <oblib> question: I am trying to get the nvidia driver to work. I have an older card, so I'm using nvidia-glx-legacy. When I try to start X with that driver, it fails, complaining about the kernel
[04:16] <earthen> could someone give me some help with getting swat to work
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> oblib, older meaning how old ?
[04:16] <oblib> I had the same problem when I tried to run the new Breezy drivers with an old kernel
[04:16] <oblib> wickedpuppy, Geforce 2 440 MX
[04:16] <selinium> ale3hs, THere is a quick fix if you want it?
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> oblib, you tried to run old driver in new kernel and new driver in old kernel ?
[04:17] <oblib> GeForce4 MX 440
[04:17] <oblib> I mean
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> 4 isn't that old ...
[04:17] <oblib> wickedpuppy, the new driver in the old kernel was on a different machine
[04:17] <ale3hs> selinium go ahed
[04:17] <ErgoSum> the install cd mount auto the windows partition?
[04:17] <lucaas> oblib, new driver should work fine
[04:17] <oblib> wickedpuppy, I thought it was Geforce 2
[04:17] <oblib> lucaas, it didn't
[04:18] <lucaas> i have the same card
[04:18] <White-Wolf> Question: Hows does one open g++?
[04:18] <Walla> you dont
[04:18] <oblib> lucaas, instead of loading Gnome, it would go to a black screen with a cursor at the top. The cursor was not blinking.
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> White-Wolf, g++ sourcefile.cpp
[04:18] <oblib> lucaas, I coudln't switch to a term with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or anything
[04:19] <shotgun> there is no c compiler in the default ubuntu install ?!
[04:19] <lucaas> oblib, strange
[04:19] <Walla> White-Wolf you have to say "g++ <yourfile.C>
[04:19] <oblib> lucaas, sometimes a lot of ctrl-alt-deletes would reboot it sometimes not
[04:19] <arnducky> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:19] <selinium> ale3hs, in a term,   sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list      <--  All that
[04:19] <selinium> ale3hs, You are using breezy?
[04:19] <White-Wolf> is there no compiler? so that i can create the program?
[04:19] <lucaas> oblib, did you try ctrl+alt+backsoace?
[04:19] <token> does anyone know what the default setting in fstab for Options are?
[04:19] <penguinzdr> what's better: xchat or xchat-gnome?
[04:19] <arnducky> I'm geting apt errors even though it's configured automatically by the Ubuntu script (I haven't edited /etc/apt/sources.list at all), so what gives?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> White-Wolf, g++ is a compiler
[04:19] <chrissturm> hey, when will network manager 0.5.1 land in dapper?
[04:19] <token> i mean for a ntfs harddrive
[04:19] <gnomefreak> Arnducky: the archive.ubuntu server is down for now
[04:19] <ale3hs> selinium, yes breezy 5.10
[04:20] <zenlunatic> is something wrong with ubuntu repositories?
[04:20] <Loevborg> Anyone know how to turn on/off subtitles in totem?
[04:20] <oblib> lucaas, I guess I'll try again with the new driver and look at the xorg log. Yes, ctrl-alt-back didn't work either
[04:20] <arnducky> Ahhh, sooo.
[04:20] <selinium> ale3hs, just coppy that all into a term a hit enter!
[04:20] <lucaas> oblib, ok
[04:20] <Walla> White-Wolf, use gedit or emacs or something
[04:20] <Loevborg> Using a keyboard shortcut, that is. it's critical!!
[04:20] <gnomefreak> Penguinzdr i dont like x-chat gnome i use x-chat
[04:20] <oblib> lucaas, no response from anything
[04:20] <ale3hs> ok I will try it
[04:20] <iamkirk> how do i upsate my archive manager to support more file types ?
[04:20] <arnducky> gnomefreak, is there a repository server status page on a monitoring site somewhere?
[04:20] <MrApex_Ubuntu> ok that unmunted, but but cant eject the physical disk
[04:21] <gnomefreak> Arnducky: im not sure ive never seen one
[04:21] <oblib> lucaas, you have to MX 440 as well? Can you use the TV-out on it?
[04:21] <selinium> ale3hs, The first part makes a copy of your current ources.list, the second part downloads the 'official' one and installs it in place off you old one.
[04:21] <oblib> lucaas, or at least dual monitors?
[04:21] <lucaas> oblib, i dont have tv-out
[04:21] <arnducky> How will I know when it comes back up?   Write an html bot?  Is it down for scheduled maintenance?
[04:21] <token> anyone knows what default setting are set for a harddisc (ntfs) in fstab ??? i mean in collumn options
[04:21] <token> anyone knows what default setting are set for a harddisc (ntfs) in fstab ??? i mean in collumn options
[04:21] <selinium> ale3hs, then you will need to type   sudo apt-get update
[04:21] <token> sry for this
[04:21] <lucaas> oblib, ah, i have 400, not 440
[04:22] <arnducky> !restricted
[04:22] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:22] <selinium> token, yes but it will be read only
[04:22] <lucaas> oblib, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[04:22] <joft> since I upgraded to breezy my sound (and nvidia driver) hasn't worked, I just tried the troubleshooting sound thing on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#troubleshooting and it still doesn't work
[04:22] <ale3hs> selinium,  yea i understand ..How ever I didnt make a backup.. I guess it writes over the old file
[04:22] <token> selinium ... any possibility to write on drive?
[04:22] <penguinzdr> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[04:22] <odin> Could someone help me..going from gentoo to ubuntu wasn't as easy as I thought
[04:22] <oblib> lucaas, but my card should still work. Here goes nothing. thanks for help.
[04:22] <penguinzdr> where can i find that XML::Parser?
[04:22] <zenlunatic> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[04:23] <selinium> token, there is a app that lets you, but I have never used it.
[04:23] <selinium> ale3hs, if you copied the whole line it would of created the backup for you?
[04:23] <token> selinium ... ok ... and what about the default setting? can u tell me which to choose for Options?
[04:23] <lucaas> oblib, yes, i dont know much :), im currently trying to get another pci card to work together with the geforce 2 one.
[04:23] <odin> I added the 'universe' but when I try to apt-get the stuff for mp3 support it complains..
[04:24] <mataniko> why cant i chown/chmod my mounted ntfs directory?
[04:24] <ale3hs> selinium, no i just run the wget
[04:24] <token> mataniko: rights?!
[04:24] <penguinzdr> where can i find XML::Parser?
[04:24] <token> mataniko: su
[04:24] <thoreauputic> mataniko: because ntfs doesn't support linux permissions
[04:24] <selinium> ale3hs, ok, your call. Have you run   sudo apt-get update?
[04:24] <mataniko> i can su into it
[04:24] <mataniko> but i want to get read permission on my normal user
[04:25] <odin> "gstreamer0.8-plugins: Depends: gstreamer0.8-a52dec (>= 0.8.11) but it is not going to be installed
[04:25] <odin> "  what does this mean?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> token: no, ntfs doesn't understand chown/ chmod etc
[04:25] <thoreauputic> mataniko: that's done in /etc/fstab
[04:25] <thoreauputic> !fstab
[04:25] <token> thoreauputic: ah ok ... why not?
[04:25] <mataniko> ya, i edited it
[04:25] <mataniko> i'll give it another chance
[04:25] <mataniko> !fstab
[04:25] <selinium> token, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:25] <thoreauputic> token: ask microsoft :)
[04:25] <sffde> hi, where can i find Ubuntu 5.10's default sources.list?
[04:25] <token> thoreauputic: i thought everything in linux is handled as text .. so
[04:26] <token> thoreauputic: haha :o)))
[04:26] <token> selinium: thx
[04:26] <thoreauputic> token: it's a file system issue
[04:26] <ale3hs> selinium,  cool ur a savior .. coz I edit the source list bymyself and probably I fk it ;)
[04:26] <token> thoreauputic: ah ok ...
[04:26] <selinium> token you will need to change the HD to your one.
[04:26] <thoreauputic> hmm
[04:26] <thoreauputic> !+fstab
[04:26] <ubotu> fstab is, like, /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[04:27] <selinium> ale3hs, No Problem, glad to of helped!
[04:27] <tupa> hola ?
[04:27] <token> selinium: what does nls=utf8,umask=0222 mean?
[04:27] <sffde> nobody?
[04:27] <penguinzdr> hey guys WTF is that XML::parser?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> I think the first part of that factoid should disappear
[04:27] <ale3hs> selinium, a last question ..I am downloading mplayer.. so how I get the codecs for w media player ??
[04:27] <lotia> any apt-get gurus on?
[04:27] <selinium> token, Use google! I know it works!
[04:27] <iamkirk> how do i update my archive manager to support more file types ? such as.deb or .rpm
[04:27] <ale3hs> basicly all the video codecs
[04:28] <lotia> my machine is in a state of flux.
[04:28] <token> selinium: i know too ... but searching and searching .. you know ... ?! :o)))
[04:28] <joft> can anyone help me? since I upgraded to breezy my sound (and nvidia driver) hasn't worked, I just tried the troubleshooting sound thing on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#troubleshooting and it still doesn't work
[04:28] <selinium> ale3hs, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:28] <lotia> or stuck rather.
[04:28] <Aratos> anyone here know how to connect to the internet using a USB ADSL modem?
[04:28] <nathanj> anyone know how to make a sleep timer for beep-media-player?
[04:28] <selinium> ale3hs, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  for all the codecs!
[04:28] <ale3hs> thanx selinium
[04:29] <lotia> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4989 i get an error when updating details on the pastebin
[04:29] <selinium> ale3hs, Sorry ,i didn't realise i had already answered! lol
[04:29] <penguinzdr> please guys help me with configure of Buoh!
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> Buoh ?
[04:29] <selinium> totem, put     tutorial fstab   into google.
[04:29] <penguinzdr> a comic reader
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> huh ?
[04:29] <ale3hs> selinium, u jokking mplayer has not a front end??
[04:30] <selinium> ale3hs, yes it does?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> ale3hs: sure it does - gmplayer
[04:30] <selinium> CHeers thoreauputic :)
[04:31] <zenlunatic> why is gxine playing dvds choppy?
[04:31] <gwark> hmmmm this never happened before ::  E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:31] <cocox> hi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????
[04:31] <cocox> hi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????
[04:31] <gwark> zenlunatic dma settings maybe?
[04:31] <penguinzdr> wickedpuppy: i only need to know how can i fix this: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[04:31] <thoreauputic> nathanj:   sleep 8h && beep-media-player yournoisysong.mp3    ;)
[04:31] <penguinzdr> wickedpuppy: whatever.. i finded a ubuntu paxkage
[04:31] <ale3hs> gmplayer I cannot find it within the synaptic ...
[04:31] <zenlunatic> gwark: how do i change them?
[04:32] <zenlunatic> okay my mouse keeps freezing for some reason
[04:32] <thoreauputic> ale3hs: it comes with the package
[04:32] <nathanj> thoreauputic: hrmm
[04:32] <thoreauputic> ale3hs: apt-cache search mplayer
[04:32] <gwark> zenlunatic  i forgot .....   hparm  .. dunno i always copied it from Kaffeine
[04:32] <thoreauputic> nathanj: that should work :)
[04:32] <ale3hs> thoreauputic, u r rt.. I must be idiot
[04:33] <graabein> thoreauputic, greetings, what are you reading these days?
[04:33] <mataniko> winmac_fstab didn't help, mounting wasn't a problem, accessing the drive not as the root user is the problem
[04:33] <thoreauputic> nathanj: although  sleep 8h && mpg321 noisysong.mp3   would be just as easy
[04:33] <zenlunatic> how can i unfreeze my mouse?
[04:33] <nathanj> thoreauputic: that sleeps before the app opens :P
[04:33] <thoreauputic> graabein: computer monitor screens mostly ;)
[04:34] <graabein> thoreauputic, :) gogol "dead souls" here...
[04:34] <thoreauputic> nathanj: isn't that what you want it to do?
[04:34] <selinium> thoreauputic, thanks for that, I now have another way of waking up other linux users! lol
[04:34] <nathanj> thoreauputic: i want the opposit affect :D
[04:34] <thoreauputic> nathanj: ah you want to turn it off ?
[04:35] <cocox> hi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????
[04:35] <odin> Erm.  Does anyone have a q&e way to install mp3 support?
[04:35] <selinium> nathanj,  then use sleep 8h && sudo pkill <app>
[04:35] <thoreauputic> nathan_:  sleep 8h && killall beep-media-player  then
[04:35] <Zedman> hello! somebody has an idea of how to use sendmail in mozilla-thunderbird?
[04:35] <selinium> thoreauputic, I won! for once! :)
[04:35] <nathanj> selinium: cool :) ta i might look into writing a plugin for beep
[04:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: sudo isn't necessary ;P
[04:36] <thoreauputic> but pkill is a good idea :)
[04:36] <selinium> thoreauputic, true.. :)
[04:36] <chrissturm> does ubuntu run a smtp server on localhost by default
[04:37] <nathanj> didnt work :(
[04:37] <nathanj> got it :D
[04:38] <zenlunatic> is there any way to unfreeze the mouse?
[04:38] <dovyds> !netbeans
[04:38] <nathanj> sleep 10s && pkill beep
[04:38] <ubotu> dovyds: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:38] <thoreauputic> nathan_: right :)
[04:38] <nathanj> thanks guys :)
[04:38] <selinium> zenlunatic, try sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[04:38] <selinium> nathanj, np
[04:39] <asdx> I can't mount a fat32 floppy
[04:39] <asdx> why?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> asdx: try changing the file type to vfat in /etc/fstab or do  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/point
[04:40] <zenlunatic> selinium: nope
[04:40] <iamkirk> does anyone have any idea how to help me
[04:40] <iamkirk> i cant open .deb or .rpm
[04:40] <selinium> zenlunatic, what where yuo doing when it froze>
[04:40] <selinium> ?
[04:40] <zenlunatic> selinium: using cd drive.  every time i use cd drive it freezes
[04:40] <thoreauputic> iamkirk: why do you want to "open" them ? you mean install them?
[04:40] <zenlunatic> selinium: like watching dvd or copying a big file from cd
[04:40] <selinium> zenlunatic, with a particular program?
[04:41] <zenlunatic> selinium: no with any program
[04:41] <chrissturm> is X broken in dapper right now?
[04:41] <iamkirk> well , yes , install them
[04:41] <diesel> Is http://us.archive.ubuntu.com down?  I cannot connect.
[04:41] <thoreauputic> iamkirk: generally you don't use rpm - for .deb use "  sudo dpkg -i file.deb "
[04:41] <selinium> iamkirk, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package
[04:41] <asdx> theconartist: I can't tell my users to run cli commands, they want to put the floppy and just see what is there
[04:41] <gwark> zenlunatic     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[04:42] <iamkirk> i have to install from the terminal window ?
[04:42] <selinium> iamkirk, if you have downloaded them,yes
[04:42] <zenlunatic> selinium: i can't keep rebooting every time
[04:42] <thoreauputic> iamkirk: you  know about apt and synnaptic and package management right?
[04:42] <zenlunatic> selinium: thats the only thing that fixes it
[04:43] <koool> 5.10 can play 3d games, open GL, new games?
[04:43] <selinium> zenlunatic, type   top   in a term. is there something using all the processor?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> iamkirk: it's usually a bad idea to download random debs
[04:43] <ale3hs> selinium, is it possibe to giv me again the wget command to download the sources list to save it in case I need it again coz xchat cleared the screen??
[04:43] <thoreauputic> iamkirk: much easier to use synaptic
[04:43] <zenlunatic> selinium: no
[04:43] <mataniko> ya, ntfs work, umode=0 was what i was missing
[04:43] <selinium> ale3hs, in a term,   sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list      <--  All that
[04:44] <iamkirk> i downloaded cedego
[04:44] <iamkirk> thats the one im trying to run
[04:44] <thoreauputic> bah that was pointless
[04:44] <iamkirk> and i have it in .rpm and .deb format
[04:44] <mataniko> one more thing, how do i add hebrew support?
[04:44] <XBozz> hey, does anybody knows how can i install wmaker here?
[04:45] <ale3hs> thanx selinium
[04:45] <selinium> thoreauputic, Have you got any idea why zenlunatic loses his mouse when usiong his CDROM?
[04:45] <mataniko> just text input
[04:45] <selinium> ale3hs, NP  :)
[04:45] <thoreauputic> selinium: no, sorry
[04:45] <penguinzdr> wow BMPx is very cool
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !info wmaker
[04:45] <ubotu> wmaker: (NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.92.0-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 2220 kB, Installed size: 6104 kB
[04:45] <zenlunatic> selinium: im going to reboot and post this to the forums
[04:46] <thoreauputic> XBozz: enable universe then sudo apt-get install wmaker
[04:46] <selinium> zenlunatic, sorry, i dont now how to help.. OK good idea? Good luck!
[04:46] <thoreauputic> or use synaptic
[04:46] <XBozz> but, what can i do to enable universe?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> !tell XBozz about repos
[04:47] <echylo`> look up at the stars!
[04:47] <echylo`> and turn on the brightest one!
[04:47] <stagiair> us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[04:47] <echylo`> yes
[04:47] <thoreauputic> XBozz: read the URL ubotu sent you in pm
[04:47] <echylo`> us times out here
[04:47] <koool> gyta, 5.10 can play 3d games, open GL or new games?
[04:48] <XBozz> ok, tanx all
[04:48] <onispawn> anyone know if us.archive.ubuntu.com having issues?
[04:49] <stagiair> onispawn, it's down
[04:49] <onispawn> stagiair, ok thanks
[04:51] <Sp4rKy> hi
[04:51] <lajuj> Happy Thanksgiving - is anyone else having trouble with access universe, main, and other packages?
[04:52] <john280z> hard time at us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <stagiair> lajuj, john280z: us.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[04:52] <john280z> OK, thanks for the info!
[04:52] <Sp4rKy> i 've any issue with usb , when i put an usb key or disc , it isn't mounted automatically , anyone have ideas ?
[04:52] <lajuj> thanks for the info, I was afraid it was me
[04:53] <onispawn> does anyone have any suggestions on applications for dvd authoring?
[04:53] <Sp4rKy> onispawn , it exist a good tutorial on web
[04:54] <mios> is there a log that can tell me if an app crashed the system?  besides the "system log" wich is kinda useless
[04:54] <onispawn> Sp4rKy: yea I have read the tutorial. I was just wondering if anyone has a application they like better
[04:54] <trat02community_> Is there any way to configure 2monitors in GUI way???
[04:55] <chr1snv> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to run off an external usb hd i.e. iPod?, i was told that i would need to edit the initrd file
[04:55] <mios> i have a tv out script for nvidia
[04:55] <trat02community_> ati
[04:55] <mios> you can modify it
[04:55] <mios> ohh
[04:55] <mios> I had an ATI and never got it to work in tv out or dual
[04:55] <sklav> hi guys
[04:56] <trat02community_> :(
[04:56] <koool> how about modify monitor?
[04:56] <zenlunatic> I'm trying to get dma working for my one dvd/burner and its saying /dev/hdc: No such file or directory .  How do I know what device is my cdrom?
[04:56] <mios> its sucked sooo much that I just went to frys and got me a refurb nvidia
[04:56] <trat02community_> yes but it's laptop
[04:56] <mios> ha!
[04:56] <trat02community_> :)
[04:56] <Sp4rKy> onispawn , better than kino/dvdauthor ... no
[04:56] <sklav> anybody experienc issues with us.archive.ubuntu.com when doing an apt-get update?
[04:56] <chr1snv> same here, i think that there i a grudge between open source guys and nvidia
[04:56] <mios> ohh buddy
[04:57] <chr1snv> i mean ati
[04:57] <onispawn> Sp4rKy: alright
[04:57] <reiki> is flash generally a problem? There's a flash chat app that crashes all browsers here but is fine in windows
[04:57] <arnducky> chr1snv, off of an ipod  -- yikes!  (why would you want to n00k your ipod -- it's for playing music, not a true handheld or 'pDA')
[04:57] <mios> yeah
[04:57] <elwood> i need to change from lilo to grub...how can i do this?
[04:57] <mios> maybe that is why my apps are crashing
[04:57] <Sp4rKy> and nobody knows why my usb keys doesn't mount automatically (i'm over openbox)
[04:58] <thoreauputic> * Topic for #ubuntu set by bob2 at Thu Nov 17 18:44:33 2005 Yes us.archive.com is down
[04:58] <Badm4n`Feel`so`E> hello
[04:58] <chr1snv> arnducky, well, its actually more because i am out of hd space and would like to dual boot, also the added benifit of being able to switch btween computers would be cool
[04:58] <mios> hey I'm new here,,, what is Dapper?
[04:58] <sklav> thanks for the update thoreauputic
[04:59] <thoreauputic> sklav: hah
[04:59] <chr1snv> arnduckey, also, i just got a nano and the battery on the old 3rd gen is basically shot anywayz, so it can only really be used as a hd now
[04:59] <sklav> :)
[04:59] <trat02community_> mios: new distro rc in ubuntu
[04:59] <arnducky> chr1snv, you can dual boot from the MBR on your active partition by installing LILO, ELILO, GRUB or MBR
[05:00] <mios> there are tutorials on how to TV out in ATI using the Gastos drivers  or the newer ati  but has to be radeon or better
[05:00] <alley_m> hello @all.... after installing ubuntu this day (realy surprised, great work), changing some settings I am a little disappointed with synaptic packetmanager... it often looks for the install-dvd... but I want to download only from internet.. is there a way to change this settings?
[05:00] <mios> ahh
[05:00] <mios> I see
[05:00] <Badm4n> need help
[05:00] <Badm4n> about linksys 11 wusb2.4
[05:00] <Badm4n> i'll paste the error there
[05:00] <mios> I think you would have a better chance at two heads than at TVout
[05:00] <sklav> comment out fisrt line in /etc/apt/sources
[05:00] <arnducky> If you want to boot from removeable media, yoiu can always make a bootable floppy, CD, DVD or CF-disk (the latter assumes your BIOS supports USB boot devices)
[05:01] <alex__> hello, how can i install ftp server?
[05:01] <sklav> and then run apt-get update
[05:01] <grunt> apt-get install proftpd
[05:01] <chr1snv> arnducky, yes but it wouldnt make my ubuntu install portable, and if i were to install on the ipod, it still wouldnt solve the problem of the kernal not being able to load itself off a usb device
[05:01] <arnducky> sklav, are the ubuntu repositories back on-line now?
[05:01] <Sp4rKy> what 's the dpkg option to extract a .deb without install ?
[05:01] <sklav> arnducky, im only aware of us.archive.ubuntu.com being down
[05:02] <alex__> ssh say he can't find proftpd package
[05:02] <alley_m> thx...
[05:02] <trat02community_> I don't realy need tv out just onother LCD(like separate desktop).
[05:02] <arnducky> chr1snv, then make a live CD/DVD or get yourself a USB harddrive enclosure
[05:02] <mios> what you can do is to go to google and look for ATI config.org sample     and you will find a bunch of posted scripts that you can test. print those out and figure out the code.. very easy. It just didn't work on mine. I think its an oddball ATI  Fryes  go figure
[05:02] <onispawn> Sp4rKy: dpkg -x <package>
[05:02] <arnducky> $16 for USB 2.0 to 2.5" ESDI (laptop drives)
[05:02] <mios> that is how I got mine to work on tvout and double head
[05:02] <thoreauputic> actually I can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com from here ... can anyone else reach it ?
[05:02] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: hi, remember me? i was unable to use the synaptic updates. the problem is with some anonymous proxy that i installed on my computer by mistake
[05:02] <Sp4rKy> onispawn, thx
[05:03] <sklav> thoreauputic, i can ping it also
[05:03] <mios> but after I changed to an Nvidia
[05:03] <trat02community_> ok I'll try, tnx. Just wondered if there is any gui.
[05:03] <arnducky> with about 1.0A draw off the USB bus
[05:03] <chr1snv> arnduckey, and assuming i did get a USB harddrive inclosure, i would still have to find a way to get ubuntu to boot off of it?
[05:03] <sklav> just the apt-get fails always waiting for headers 99%
[05:03] <thoreauputic> sklav: ah - but it isn't working for people ? (I'm in .au)
[05:03] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  that could do it i dont use proxies so i never see things like that
[05:03] <trat02community_> Maybe it is time to make one ;)
[05:03] <IRCMonkey999> anyone help me with anonymous proxy service on ubuntu
[05:03] <sklav> exactly
[05:03] <onispawn> you can see it, just cant download anything from it
[05:03] <cocox> hi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????
[05:03] <mios> The code is almost the same, exept that on ATI you will different call outs
[05:04] <arnducky> ~$32 for 5.25"  ATA enclosure (also USB 2.0) but powered by a transformer block
[05:04] <sklav> Use Root it recommened ;)
[05:04] <sklav> hehe
[05:04] <alex__> sklav  ssh say he can't find proftpd package
[05:04] <onispawn> ubuntu really needs more mirrors
[05:04] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: any idea how to remove this proxy thing?
[05:04] <trat02community_> ok I see
[05:04] <IRCMonkey999> anyone please help me with proxies on ubuntu
[05:04] <zenlunatic> gwark: hey thanks dma is working and it stopped the skipping
[05:04] <gnomefreak> IRCMonkey999,  wish i did sorry
[05:04] <twidget> Is there a way of decreasing the size of the desktop icons?
[05:04] <sklav> thanks for the update alex__
[05:04] <arnducky> hotplug with udevfs or proc automounts them in /media/usbdrive
[05:04] <trat02community_> I'll try later make some config changes
[05:05] <alex__> what sklav
[05:05] <alex__> ?
[05:05] <gwark> zenlunatic no problems  ;] 
[05:05] <arnducky> or /media/usb#
[05:05] <thoreauputic> onispawn: you can remove the us. from your sources to get archve.ubuntu.com or use a different country code
[05:05] <gnomefreak> im assuming archives.ubuntu.com still down?
[05:05] <chrissturm> gnomefreak: use a mirror
[05:05] <mios> if you do Xconfig ...that X configurator thing  from a black screen  non X CLI then you get a better looking Xconfigurator than the Text thing on the normal terminal
[05:05] <alex__> what update?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: us archive only afaik
[05:05] <sklav> :) you told me ssh cannot find proftpd package
[05:05] <arnducky> chr1snv how about that?
[05:05] <alex__> jo
[05:05] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: i dont think any problem with the archives... just some settings on my computer....
[05:05] <sklav> and i just said thank you for the update ;)
[05:05] <trat02community_> cool
[05:05] <gnomefreak> chrissturm,  dont know how
[05:05] <alex__> and now?  apt-get update ?
[05:06] <chrissturm> gnomefreak: de.archive.ubuntu.com works
[05:06] <gnomefreak> ty brb
[05:06] <IRCMonkey999> gnomefreak: while installing java run time Environment this thing came up asking me do you want to install a anonymous proxy
[05:06] <sklav> ca.archive.ubuntu.com didnt work when i tried it
[05:06] <chrissturm> gnomefreaK. do you know how to edit sources.list?
[05:06] <sklav> i will try it again
[05:06] <IRCMonkey999> and i said yes.... and thats when all the trouble started....
[05:06] <reiki> can someone go to www.cpaptalk.com and click on the chat link? Apparently flashchat is crashing my browser and I'd like to see if it's MY setup or a problem with the app. It works in windows fine
[05:06] <gnomefreak> yes chrissturm
[05:07] <chr1snv> arnducky, uhh? so you are saying that if i simply attach a usb drive with an install on it it will work?
[05:07] <alley_m> ok... one problem, then I will be satiesfied for today *smile... within gnome-desktop u are able to detect new usb-devices (like hdd ), is it possible to have the same feature into xfce4? (just plug-in and a new icon appears like inside gnome)?
[05:07] <reiki> the link is right below the main logo where it says 0chatting live
[05:07] <Stormx2> is a symlink of a folder considered a file or a folder/
[05:07] <Stormx2> ?
[05:08] <alex__> ca.archive.ubuntu.com dons'T worl
[05:08] <reiki> Stormx2, it's considered a symlink
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: it's a file
[05:08] <alex__> *work*
[05:08] <arnducky> chr1snv, of course not -- the drive has to be marked bootable and have boot code in sector 1 just like any other boot device.  The point is that grub will be able to see it to make it bootable on just about any modern Linux system.
[05:08] <idiot> I have this program I cannot close "wine-systray" and when I try to killall it, it doesn't work because I don't know the name of it nor the proc ID.. =/, and there is no "X", I use gnome.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: ie you can rm it for example
[05:08] <sklav> ok north america is out
[05:08] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: Cheers
[05:08] <sklav> hehe
[05:09] <twidget> Is there a way of decreasing the size of the desktop icons?
[05:09] <alex__> sklav,  have you reading?
[05:09] <thoreauputic> sklav: wow - I've been waiting for that for years ;P
[05:09] <sklav> hehe
[05:09] <arnducky> And as I said, it can only work with a system that supports booting from USB devices (unless you make a bootstrap CD, floppy or DVD also and they would have to be supported then too)
[05:09] <sklav> sounds crazy
[05:09] <chr1snv> arnducky, right, well ive tryed it and grub works fine, but the problem is that when the kernel trys to load itself, it hasnt loaded the drivers for scisi emulation yet, and cant see the root partition cuz its on a usb drive
[05:10] <sklav> im going to write an /. article
[05:10] <idiot> I have this process running and I cannot close it nor find it in the running processes..
[05:10] <psusi> when I ask synaptic to upgrade libpt-plugins-alsa, it says it is going to REMOVE several packages, including ubuntu-desktop... why on earth would it do this?
[05:10] <alex__> hmm *nohelp* :(
[05:10] <_darius__> us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[05:10] <alley_m> hm... nobody inside to give at least a hint to usb-mount for xfce4?
[05:10] <sklav> Ubuntu down for all of North America ...people are jumping out of windows. Cities are collapsing under the pressure...read more....at /.
[05:11] <arnducky> well, you need to have the correct drivers in the kernel heh -- you can only put so much in your device's bootsector (up to 64K if you use very large clusters AFAIK)
[05:11] <chr1snv> idiot, did you try running (sudo ps -e) ?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> chrissturm,  de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/main and the restricted give me a could not resolve 'dists' error
[05:11] <idiot> yea
[05:11] <idiot> chrlsnv i cannot find the task, its called "Wine-systray"
[05:11] <idiot> but its not in there.
[05:11] <reiki> what is the off topic channel please? I want to see if I can get this flash app thing straightened out
[05:12] <arnducky> So that's why you would make a live CD with a full kernel including scsi usb emulation api (I thought it was built in but really don't know).
[05:12] <gnomefreak> reiki, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC
[05:12] <gnomefreak> sorry for the caps
[05:12] <reiki> gnomefreak, that was almost too easy, huh?  hehehe.. thanks
[05:12] <thoreauputic>  au.archive.ubuntu.com  seems OK
[05:12] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:12] <chr1snv> idiot, ah lol well in that case i have no ideas im here for help too lol
[05:12] <chrissturm> gnomefreak, this is my sources.list line: "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"
[05:12] <Pegasos989> I have a question concering the built in bit torrent client of ubuntu. Is the "time left" it shos really fucked up or does it just generally suck? I look at a download and it says "1hour, 4 mins left". I go and eat something and come back. It says "1 hour 2 mins left". It has made progress and the speed is nearly twice the one that was there before, but the time left barely changes
[05:12] <psusi> arnducky, the boot sector is allways one sector... which is 512 bytes... clusters have nothing to do with it
[05:12] <chrissturm> gnomefreak, should also work for breezy :)
[05:13] <mios> dudes  I cannot run any app
[05:13] <iamkirk> guys , im really new to linux and have no effing clue how to open cedega
[05:13] <fredforfaen> !backports
[05:13] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[05:13] <arnducky> chr1snv, there used to be a site called 'Roll Your Own Kernel'  -- maybe you want to look them up
[05:13] <mios> not even a terminal
[05:13] <chrissturm> gnomefreak, but be sure to replace "dapper" with "breezy"
[05:13] <chr1snv> ok, i will
[05:13] <arnducky> psusi, I thought that you could fill up the first cluster too
[05:13] <psusi> Pegasos989, I think it just generally sucks... I use bit tornado
[05:13] <mios> I got xchat and stream tuner open and thats it
[05:14] <arnducky> and I thought that you could use 3*512 B
[05:14] <alex__> can someone german
[05:14] <robotgeek> Badm4n: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:14] <thoreauputic> !de
[05:14] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[05:14] <psusi> arnducky, clusters are a thing of filesystems... the MBR exists outside of a filesystem
[05:14] <iamkirk> could someone pm me and give me some newb help...  i am ridiculously new to linux
[05:14] <doudou> hi
[05:14] <chr1snv> arnducky, i still would much rather have it run directly off my old ipod, just wondering, do you know how i could mount and edit the initrd file?
[05:14] <Badm4n> robotgeek : may i know what that for ?
[05:14] <onispawn> nice. I didnt know xmission was hosting a mirror for ubuntu
[05:15] <robotgeek> Badm4n: you don't have kernel headers for compilation
[05:15] <arnducky> psusi, yes, I know but CHS is still a way to designate a physical location
[05:15] <doudou> can someone give a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:15] <Badm4n> oh i c
[05:15] <thoreauputic> iamkirk: cedega is kind of off-topic here - you should get support from the people who sold it to you : you*did* buy it, right ?
[05:15] <Badm4n> only that the problem ?
[05:15] <idiot> whats that application that you can run and it brings up an X and you click something and it kills it
[05:15] <gnomefreak> iamkirk,  please ask your question in the room that way more than one person can help if that one person doesnt know
[05:15] <psusi> arnducky, though usually for some antiquated reason, partiioning tools want to align partitions to cylinder bounderies... which means that there is usually up to 8 megs of unused sectors before the first partition starts
[05:15] <Renski> What should I use to read a .dvi file?
[05:15] <arn> #1
[05:15] <psusi> arnducky, so that leaves some extra space boot loaders can use
[05:16] <doudou> anyone can help me ?
[05:16] <arnducky> yeah, you get all kinds of tiny little 'partitions' when yo resize disks that only show up with tools that do a raw read and look at the edges of CHS boundaries
[05:16] <arnducky> like 0.007 MB -- heh
[05:16] <psusi> arnducky, windows usually  just aligns the start of the partition to a head boundery resulting it the partition starting on sector 63... so the boot loader can use the spare sectors 1-62 if it can't entirely fit in sector 0
[05:17] <Badm4n> robotgeek : may i private u ?
[05:17] <idiot> brb
[05:17] <psusi> windows usually aligns the END of the partition on a cylinder boundery though, which is why you usually get up to 8 megs of free space at the end that it wont let you use
[05:17] <doudou> hello ?
[05:17] <twidget> Is there a way of decreasing the size of the desktop icons?
[05:17] <arnducky> psusi, so if you have 1K blocks, then...
[05:17] <doudou> can someone help me ?
[05:18] <twidget> I suppose I'll keep asking until someone helps
[05:18] <psusi> sectors are allways 512 bytes
[05:18] <arnducky> (about 64 KBytes -- get it?)
[05:18] <psusi> we're talking sectors here... clusters are only a construct inside filesystems
[05:18] <doudou> can someone give a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:18] <doudou> can someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:18] <psusi> what goes on inside the partition.... I'm tlaking about what goes on outside partitions
[05:19] <Badm4n> robotgeek : is kernel header exist in my CD ? cause i dont have internet connection lol
[05:19] <pepperpot> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto an existing ext3 partition, but when i choose "install base" it keeps bringing me back to the partitioner.
[05:19] <thoreauputic> twidget: I'm not aware of a way to resize desktop icons in gnome
[05:20] <twidget> thoreauputic, thank you
[05:20] <Slackwise> thomhash: Right click an icon on the desktop, select "Stretch icon" ?
[05:20] <Slackwise> errr
[05:20] <Slackwise> thoreauputic:
[05:20] <thoreauputic> Slackwise: is that possible ? i can't check as I'm in fluxbox
[05:20] <doudou> can someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:20] <arnducky> psusi, hmm... perhaps you can explain some issues I've had when trying to shrink partitions with parted and sfdisk, then
[05:21] <Slackwise> thoreauputic: I am currently in GMOME 2.12, so it should be fine in Ubuntu.
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Slackwise: hmm interesting thanks
[05:21] <Slackwise> thoreauputic: No problem. :P
[05:21] <arnducky> And BTW, doesn't the MBR extend to up to three 512B sectors now?
[05:21] <doudou> can someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:21] <psusi> arnducky, I have not used parted... it wouldn't work for me so I had to use ntfsresize and fdisk directly
[05:22] <koool> is there a way too see the NVidia video card settings like Temperature & Overclocking?
[05:22] <tgnb> do i need to download the 5.10 install cd to upgrade to it? or can i upgrade over the internet kind of like gentoo?
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[05:22] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:22] <thoreauputic> tgnb: see that URL
[05:22] <tgnb> thanks
[05:22] <psusi> arnducky, no... the MBR is sector 0.... but like I said before... partitioning tools usually end up leaving at least a few unused sectors between the MBR and the first partition... so boot loaders can use that space
[05:22] <thoreauputic> tgnb: and the answer is yes
[05:22] <psusi> arnducky, grub's stage 1 loader fits entirely in the MBR
[05:23] <thoreauputic> ie you can use the net
[05:23] <doudou> can someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:23] <psusi> arnducky, but if you want, you can install the optional stage 1.5 loader in the free space after the MBR
[05:23] <vbgunz> I've had a real bad problem with Breezy. I hope someone can shine some light on it. For some reason when I get back from leaving the PC running with a screensaver... I don't have a mouse pointer... I cannot use my mouse for anything... I have to restart gdm *but* hate to do this... Anyone know what this problem is?
[05:23] <koool> Guys is there a way too see the NVidia video card settings like Temperature & Overclocking? :)
[05:24] <doudou> can someone give me a precision concerning modmap loading at Ubuntu startup ?
[05:24] <vbgunz> anybody here know what the problem is?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> koool: possibly lmsensors - but that may only be for cpu, mother board etc (not sure)
[05:24] <grunt> lm-sensors not for graphics...
[05:24] <arnducky> psusi, that's what I've done too but WInblows couldn't read the partition afterwars -- I would have needed to use an advanced disk utility to get the data back, so I just retored from an image and used Partition Magic(tm) to resize.  I was 'heartbroken' that parted and ntfsresize didn't live up to the latest hype about them.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> koool: erm ... lm-sensors that should be
[05:25] <koool> in FC4 I've been able to see via the window of the NVidia settings
[05:25] <thoreauputic> grunt: OK thanks
[05:25] <koool> wondering if there's a similar way
[05:25] <Red-Sox> is there a window manager that looks like tiger?
[05:25] <psusi> arnducky, you used ntfsresize and fdisk, or parted?  if you use fdisk, when you recreate the partition, you have to put fdisk into sector mode instead of cylinder mode
[05:26] <doudou> CAN someone please see my problem ?
[05:26] <pepperpot> how should I back up my system before reinstalling ubuntu?
[05:26] <pepperpot> i give up on installing over my existing partition :/
[05:26] <psusi> otherwise it tries to create the partition starting on cylinder 1, but windows made it starting at sector 63
[05:26] <thoreauputic> doudou: loos like no one has the answer
[05:26] <psusi> I made that mistake, then realized what I did, booted from a livecd, and fixed it
[05:26] <arnducky>  psusi have you ever used the make-a-50MB-hidden-part'n-at-the-beggining-of-the-first-physical-disk trick?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> doudou: at least at the moment
[05:26] <arnducky> psusi, I tried it both ways
[05:26] <psusi> arnducky, no
[05:26] <psusi> what trick is that?
[05:27] <doudou> thoreauputic : ok, then, thanks anyway ! :)
[05:27] <psusi> arnducky, you gave fdisk the u command and recreated the partition starting at sector 63?
[05:27] <vbgunz> anybody know why my mouse pointer disappears and I cannot use the mouse after leaving the PC on for a while? Please this problem is the most annoying problem to date... Is there a way to restart the mouse or something without having to restart GDM? Please, any help is appreciated!
[05:27] <Sp4rKy> Does it exist a chan for openbox ?
[05:28] <arnducky> From the old ldp.org howto on multiboot (written in 2000 I think)  They recommend making a small partion at the  beginning of bus0;disk0;part'n:0 -- but I've never been able to trick ntldr that way
[05:28] <timmd> hi all
[05:29] <psusi> arnducky, why would they recommend that?
[05:29] <arnducky> psusi, no -- that msut have been why it failed
[05:29] <pepperpot> should I use "cp -a /mnt/old /mnt/new/backup" to backup my current ubuntu installation?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Sp4rKy: just tried #openbox but that doesn't seem to exist
[05:29] <Sp4rKy> thoreauputic, no  it join  ##unaiviable
[05:29] <psusi> arnducky, ok... yea... I screwed it up like that too, but fixed it easily... I don't have and would not use partition magic... i don't trust that stuff further than I can throw it
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Sp4rKy: right
[05:30] <Red-Sox> is there mario kart for linux?
[05:30] <Sp4rKy> tu kart
[05:30] <Red-Sox> tu kart?
[05:30] <Sp4rKy> tux kart *
[05:30] <Red-Sox> o
[05:30] <arnducky> psusi, most distro were still using LILO, not GRUB and  I think that may have had something to do with it.  It's been ages since I've looked at that Howto tough, so I'd need to refresh my memory.
[05:30] <gnomefreak> tux kart
[05:30] <psusi> the other day I decided to shrink my ntfs partition down some more and use the free space for a test partition... did it all on the fly... hehe
[05:30] <fec> lol thats for super nintendo
[05:30] <Red-Sox> fec: and n64 and gamecube
[05:31] <psusi> arnducky, maybe they were saying you should make a 50 meg partition under the 8 gig limit for /boot?
[05:31] <DiTz_> Hi guys!
[05:31] <reiki> can someone with a working flash installation in their browser, please try www.cpaptalk.com/chat/flashchat.php and tell me if it crashes your browser in Ubuntu? It works in windows but crashes in Ubuntu here. Trying to see if I have messed up something in firefox and epiphany
[05:31] <fec> Red-Sox, u right, the last console i bought is SNES
[05:31] <DiTz_> I have some problems installing ubuntu
[05:32] <DiTz_> may someone help me??
[05:32] <ubuntu> yowww
[05:32] <ubuntu> ae pessoal
[05:32] <ubuntu> ;] 
[05:32] <gnomefreak> DiTz_,  what kind of problems?
[05:32] <Red-Sox> DiTz_, yes
[05:33] <arnducky> psusi, it has a bunch of script wizards jsut to guide newbies through multi-booting with other, especially Linux.  For that reason, and because even though it is still proprietary, Symantec has improved some of the license term, and becasue it's now only $30 and  I was under a deadline, I chose to purchase it via download from their webstore.
[05:33] <wyona> i just installed ubuntu and i want to change my bootloader config, where can i find grub.conf ?
[05:33] <DiTz_> i am newbie, i installed ubuntu, and now after loading it come with a white screen
[05:33] <Syruss> linux is better when you don't use windows near it
[05:33] <ubuntu> were are you scooby-doo ? ;X
[05:33] <arnducky> The old License before the bouhgt out PowerQuest was just insane.
[05:33] <thoreauputic> reiki: crashes here immediately
[05:33] <Renski> Can someone link me with instructions on how to update my sources to update hoary to breezy?
[05:33] <Red-Sox> ever since the kernel update, apt-get doesnt work
[05:33] <ubuntu> the books on the table
[05:33] <ubuntu> table table
[05:34] <ubuntu> ;X
[05:34] <psusi> arnducky, have you looked at gparted?
[05:34] <psusi> arnducky, it looks like it's just as nice or better than partition magic
[05:34] <reiki> thoreauputic, thanks... is flash known to be difficult in Ubuntu? If so I'll simply not bother with this
[05:34] <wyona> dpkg-query -L grub shows no config file for grub, does the installer write is config file somwhere ?
[05:34] <zenlunatic> I added the lines to /etc/hdparm.conf to have dma enabled on every boot but its not working.
[05:34] <psusi> it doesn't work for me though.. doesn't understand my hardware fakeraid
[05:34] <bezibaerchen> wyona: what do u want to change? default boot or boot menu itself?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> reiki: it works OK for me on most sites
[05:34] <arnducky> Syruss, my multiboot systems are better becasue they have Linux -- Aegis just found about forty infected files on windows partitions -- that no online scanner made especially for M$ Windows could find.
[05:34] <wyona> remove some unused entries
[05:35] <Happuf> reiki: works with my 64bit system too.
[05:35] <bezibaerchen> sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:35] <bezibaerchen> wyona: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:35] <thoreauputic> reiki: I have the non-free plugin (the one you grab when ff prompts you)
[05:35] <reiki> thoreauputic, same here. Just that one app so far. Odd that it works in windows fine.
[05:35] <thoreauputic> reiki: usually works OK
[05:35] <psusi> arnducky, cool
[05:35] <wyona> is this file not part of the "grub" package so dpkg-query -L grub should show it ?
[05:35] <arnducky> Other than that, I don't mount ext3 ever under doze so it';s always my 'fall-back' os if the *#%ing Evil Empire gak get's b0rked
[05:35] <gnomefreak> hot damn de.archive.ubuntu works :)
[05:35] <reiki> thoreauputic, I tried this app with the mozilla-flashplayer and then also with the plugin... still crashes
[05:35] <thoreauputic> reiki: something weird on the site ? Dunno
[05:36] <transgress> is us.archive having problems?
[05:36] <navarone> I just booted and have updates <iptables and xkeyboard file> however they fail authentication from repo...is it safe to install?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> transgress,  yes its down
[05:36] <thoreauputic> transgress: /topic
[05:36] <zenlunatic> How do you get dma to enable on every boot?
[05:36] <transgress> k
[05:36] <transgress> oh
[05:36] <arnducky> I usually tell Disk Manager not to touch my Ext3, ReiserFS and what have you.
[05:36] <vbgunz> anyone know how to restart a mouse>?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: /etc/hdparm.conf IIRC
[05:36] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic: yeah i did that as wiki says but its not working
[05:37] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic,  ty for adding that to the topic i didnt see it before
[05:37] <psusi> now... why the hell does synaptic want to remove gnomemeeting, ubuntu-desktop, and others when I try to upgrade libpt-plugins-alsa?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: you can use commands in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh (but it's deprecated)
[05:37] <onispawn> while everyone is talking about grub, has anyone succesfully gotten it to display a splash image, by adding splashimage=(hdx,y)/filename to the menu.lst file?
[05:37] <vbgunz> anyone have any idea about how to restart the mouse?
[05:37] <reiki> thoreauputic, ok I just went to the flashchat web site and v4.1.2 appears to work fine. So could be just a weirdness on that one site
[05:37] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: took me two goes to get it right *grin*
[05:38] <reiki> thoreauputic, thanks for the help... appreciated
[05:38] <gnomefreak> onispawn,  hell i cant even get redhat and ubuntu to duel boot using to hds
[05:38] <thoreauputic> reiki: right
[05:38] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:38] <thoreauputic> reiki: you're welcome
[05:38] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic: i ran that and it didn't do anything
[05:38] <cocox> hi friends, i have two kind of shells in ubuntu... the root one and the common terminal... i'm the admin of my pc, my quetion is i should work with the common terminal and just put my password with sudo for special scripts or just work with the root shell ????
[05:38] <onispawn> haha.
[05:38] <wyona> thanks !!
[05:38] <arnducky> And if I could just manage to repeat what the gatos and/or DRI users that have managed to get video capture working, I'd dump WinDOH!s completely.  All my other hardware and applications are supported of replaced by same/better functionality now.
[05:38] <teleyinex> someone knows how can i change the default apps that uses firefox to open for example pdf files?
[05:38] <chr1snv> How in the world do i mount ubuntu's initrd image?!?!?!, it will not work at all
[05:38] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: then I'm running out of ideas - Works For Me (tm)
[05:38] <teleyinex> because gnome, always open them with evince, but firefox always with xpdf
[05:38] <teleyinex> how can i change that
[05:38] <arnducky> (except of course for customer support)
[05:39] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic: what is that script supposed to do?
[05:39] <psusi> chr1snv, why do you want to?  it isn't actually an initrd image... it's an initramfs, which is a cpio archive
[05:39] <Happuf> cocox: that depends.. Mostly you should use normal for security reasons.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: it's a start up script for "miscellaneous" things you want to start on boot
[05:39] <arnducky> psusi, when you shrink the FS inside a part'n what actually happens?
[05:40] <chr1snv> psusi, well its beacuse i want to run ubuntu off an external drive.....
[05:40] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: you can add stuff to it at the end, before the exit
[05:40] <Mayday> where do i put arguments to modules that autoload on boot (breezy) ?
[05:40] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic: i figured it out
[05:40] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic: had /dev/hdc instead of /dev/cdrom
[05:41] <psusi> arnducky, ntfsresize just moves any files that need moved so that the end of the partition is all free space... then patches the cluster bitmap and other filesystem metadata so that it does not think that space is part of the filesystem anymore
[05:41] <cocox> Happuf, but when i use the normal shell this ask me for my password just once for more less 15 minutes so.. whats the point ???
[05:41] <joft> hey I have a problem, since i updated to breezy my menus have been a little messed up; when I right click on an audio file and go to "open with" xmms is listed twice. also, the right-click-on-desktop menu no longer has the terminal launcher option in it. and my boot splash stopped working
[05:41] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: ah well it has to point at the right device of course :)
[05:41] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[05:42] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[05:42] <arnducky> I think my problem is that I was too paranoid due to my lack of skill to mess with CHS values.   I jsut deleted the partition and specified the new starting at the beginning of the new free space using a size in MB.  I was scared to screw up with CHS values and make the partition smaller than the shrunken FS.
[05:42] <strokey> Hi guys, i've been reading the tutorials on ndiswrapper, but its all confusing :( . Can anyone here PM me and sort of..help me? ubuntu isent installed either, im scared of it :_: . thanks
[05:43] <thoreauputic> strokey: I would install ubuntu first - we can't help much without a running system :)
[05:43] <selinium> strokey, why are you looking at ndiswrapper, if you haven't install unbuntu? :)
[05:43] <joft> thoreauputic: do I have to refresh the menus after that?
[05:43] <arnducky> psusi, it has to totally rewrite the $mft and backup $mfts to do that, doesn't it?
[05:43] <Happuf> cocox: i didnt get you... So you are using normal terminal and comparing it to root terminal?
[05:43] <ilba7r> anyone using cups-pdf
[05:43] <thoreauputic> joft: from memory it just appears - otherwise do "killall nautilus"
[05:43] <strokey> selinium: because last time i installed ubuntu, i lost my windows, and i cant get the internet on ubuntu with wirless, and someone pointed to me ndiswrapper
[05:43] <thoreauputic> joft: that will re spawn it
[05:43] <joft> cool thanks
[05:44] <arnducky> strokey, there are some really good ndiswrapper howtos posted to forum websites.  Are you using one of them?
[05:44] <cocox> Happuf, more less.. im just triying to realizae why use the normal shell if i must puta my sudo pass anyway
[05:44] <psusi> arnducky, ntfsresize tells you the size of the new filesystem in bytes iirc... divide by 512 and that's how many sectors long it is... add that to the starting sector of the partition and that's where it should end
[05:44] <joft> anything about menu options being listed twice, or bootsplash stopping working?
[05:44] <strokey> arnducky: i was using the wiki thing, im a complete noob to "compling" and linux
[05:44] <selinium> strokey, so you have only got wireless at the mo? Asking for install purposes...
[05:44] <ilba7r> has the problem with cups-pdf wanting to run as root been solved?
[05:44] <psusi> arnducky, it might have to move the backup mft... not sure... but I don't think it has to do anything to the main mft
[05:45] <thoreauputic> joft: the bootsplash you might fix with   sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[05:45] <Happuf> cocox: you should not... Atleast i dont have to but it...
[05:45] <God> Alright I need some more help with OpenGL
[05:45] <joft> i tried that, it says "Searching for boot splash...none found"
[05:45] <strokey> selinium: yea, i cant really haev any other option, im broke, my router is 4 floors down and i cant afofrd anything else ;o
[05:45] <God> Because nobody was a big help at all last night
[05:45] <arnducky> psusi, well, the geometry of all my disks is reported differently than what it actually is to get past the ATA addressing problem at 1023 logical cylinder (or 'track') limit.
[05:45] <Red-Sox_away> is tux cart in the repositories
[05:45] <Happuf> cocox: can you do root stuff with normal terminal?
[05:45] <arnducky> Why can't all FS have Inodes -- heh
[05:46] <selinium> strokey, ok, i am not the person to help, i have never needed to install ndiswrapper. And as you need a internet connection to update the ISO package.... Have you only got the on PC?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> joft: yes it said that here too - but the bootsplash appeared on reboot (go figure) ;P
[05:46] <onispawn> find / -name grub.conf
[05:46] <cocox> Happuf, no i cant but i mean ... the normal terminal ask me for me root pass just once... after i must use sudo, isnt it ?
[05:47] <joft> oh
[05:47] <selinium> strokey,   s/on/one
[05:47] <strokey> eh?
[05:47] <simonvallore> How do i get the java runtimes for mozilla firefox it keeps saying you need to manually install them
[05:47] <onispawn> oops. sorry. wrong console
[05:47] <joft> is there any way to get nvidia drivers working without commenting out the dri and glx modules?
[05:47] <cocox> Happuf, so whats the point if with the root terminal i can do the same
[05:47] <thoreauputic> onispawn: you want /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:47] <Happuf> cocox: It should not ask if you dont write sudo in it, but if you write it ask for every sudo command.
[05:48] <thoreauputic> onispawn: grub.conf is a Redhatism :)
[05:48] <psusi> arnducky, the disk itself does not actually have geometry at all in the chs sense... it's all a lie ;)
[05:48] <arnducky> so if your partition starts with Sector 0 (1st sect on the disk), you just take that info from the ntfsresize output?  (Sheesh -- I wish I had realized that before -- I was using the  raw number of blocks/cluster or the size in MB and trying to work backwards to virtual geometry)
[05:48] <navarone> simonvallore> go to system addministration/add applications and go to internet section/more programs...checka nd install the Blackdown Java package
[05:48] <onispawn> thoreauputic: yea I thought so, but I thought I would just check to see if it exists
[05:48] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:48] <psusi> arnducky, but yea... the fake CHS for my disk is 63 cylinders, 255 heads, 9001 cylinders
[05:48] <cocox> Happuf, that what im saying!!! the terminal just ask me when i write sudo for first time... after that i just put sudo and dont ask me for a pass
[05:49] <thoreauputic> !tell simonvallore about java
[05:49] <God> Is anyone going to help God?
[05:49] <onispawn> having xmission as a mirror for ubuntu is so nice.. I can download so fast :)
[05:49] <psusi> arnducky, it isn't going to start at 0... 0 is the MBR...
[05:49] <arnducky> psusi, I thought it did -- a cylinder goes through all the disks from top side of top platter down to the bottom side of the bottom platter; ec
[05:49] <thoreauputic> God: I suggest changing your nick - a lot of people will find it offensive
[05:49] <nalioth> cocox: you have a 15 minute window while sudo keeps your password
[05:49] <arnducky> That's what confuses the hell out of me and I have an A+ text right here which doesn't even explain it.
[05:49] <psusi> arnducky, no need to worry about all the geometry crap really... just use absolute sector numbers...
[05:49] <God> thoreauputic:  I haven't found one person who finds it offensive yet. Do you?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> God: that isn't the question
[05:50] <strokey> selinium: im not sure what you mean, i only have 1 pc and its on wireless, what do you mean by s/on/one ?
[05:50] <navarone> thoreau> I don't find it offensive...but I think God has some explaining to do w/ how he runs things down here...,s>
[05:50] <God> thoreauputic:  There is this little thing called the first amendment that allows me to speak as a free person and practice any religion I want.
[05:50] <selinium> strokey, sorry, geek speak,   s =substitute  on for one
[05:50] <cocox> nalioth, yea i read that either... but so.. what is the point isnt it ? i can have my root terminal open for 15 minutes either and would be the same
[05:50] <arnducky> God, why don't you change the capitalization.  I for one *do* find your nickname offensive (as I'm sure Allah does as well).
[05:50] <psusi> arnducky, modern disks have variable geometry.... the outer tracks tend to have more sectors... they do all kinds of weird stuff, so they just lie about the geometry they report to the computer... and the bios usually lies on top of that.. and linux doesn't give a shit about geometry ;)
[05:51] <LinuxN00bie> hello ppl can anybody plz tell me how to run a java program with the extension jar?
[05:51] <LinuxN00bie> it said it couldn't find the classes
[05:51] <Seveas> *sigh* offtopic discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:51] <moshe> is there an eta on the return of us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:51] <onispawn> LinuxN00bie: java -jar <program name>
[05:51] <strokey> selinium: im still not sure what you mean ;o
[05:51] <Seveas> god, what was your problem?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> God: it might have escaped your notice that US laws do not apply internationally
[05:51] <LinuxN00bie> onispawn thx
[05:51] <god> I try to get some help with OpenGL and people bitch about me.
[05:51] <arnducky> psusi, well my A+ text does date back to the advent of Pentium -- heh
[05:51] <Seveas> god, be a bit more specific please
[05:52] <navarone> LinuxNoobie> try cd to directory with jar file and try $java -jar <filename>.jar
[05:52] <god> Seveas:  Well, I can't find anything to install it.
[05:52] <Seveas> I have not yet seen you ask a question (i just arrived)
[05:52] <Happuf> cocox: no clue why it is so :D Quite strange i think :D
[05:52] <psusi> arnducky, even then this was true
[05:52] <LinuxN00bie> hmm ok
[05:52] <onispawn> haha.. I wonder why they do that.
[05:52] <selinium> strokey, I made a spelling mistake in the previous post I was saying to substitute 'on' with 'one'   s/on/one  :)
[05:52] <Seveas> god, you want to compile opengl applications?
[05:52] <psusi> arnducky, basically geometry has been meaningless since the industry moved from RLL and MFM disks to IDE
[05:52] <arnducky> psusi, remember how a 1.44 Million Byte floppy was formatted?
[05:52] <god> Seveas:  I need the OpenGL Library.
[05:52] <Nermal> god: join #opengl ?
[05:53] <psusi> arnducky, I've managed to cram 1920 KB on a floppy ;)
[05:53] <arnducky> psusi, actually the text talked about absoulte CHS values for disks under 500 MB -- hahaha
[05:53] <Seveas> god, apt-cache search libgl | grep dev
[05:53] <god> Seveas:  I know how to compile them with g++ and everything.I just don't have the library.
[05:53] <onispawn> I think its nice that god uses ubuntu
[05:53] <Seveas> god you need a libgl-*something*-dev package
[05:53] <strokey> selinium: er, ok , yes i only have one pc ;o
[05:53] <arnducky> psusi, without altering the firmware to make the head move in finer increments?
[05:53] <Seveas> I'm not sure what the *something* is, but apt-cache will help :)
[05:53] <selinium> strokey, As you only have one connection to the net and it is wireless, I would talk to someone who really knows ndiswrapper.
[05:53] <navarone> onispawn> ubuntu and God have similar philosopht to people I would think
[05:53] <cocox> Happuf, lol yea.. i think the same thnx ;)
[05:54] <arnducky> oh -- you said 1920 -- nm
[05:54] <god> Seveas:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4996
[05:54] <Happuf> cocox: :)
[05:54] <Seveas> navarone, off-topic discussions elsewhere
[05:54] <navarone> Seveas> was just makinga  comment
[05:54] <god> libgl1-mesa-dev?
[05:54] <arnducky> you can actually get over 38 hundred on `em
[05:54] <psusi> arnducky, floppies are usually formatted in such a way that there is a fair amoutn of wasted space... you can reformat them such that they have a different geometry that can use that wasted space
[05:54] <strokey> anyone here experiances with ndiswraper? ><
[05:54] <selinium> Seveas, any chance of getting your JRE update?
[05:54] <Seveas> god, sudo apt-get update (some files are missing locally)
[05:55] <cocox> can anybody tell me what is the point of use sudo if this keeps your root pass by 15 minutes ???
[05:55] <Seveas> and yes libgl1-mesa-dev is what you need
[05:55] <arnducky> yeahj -- the sectors are literal geometric sectors that get much bigger towards the rim
[05:55] <Seveas> selinium, sure
[05:55] <god> Seveas:  That's kinda weird. I ran an update like yesterday.
[05:55] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: can we format floppy as we could with Atari, I mean with 11 sectors, 83 tracks ? :)
[05:55] <arnducky> and only 40/80 a side
[05:55] <nalioth> cocox: for your convenience, you can change the time in the settings, if you wish
[05:55] <Seveas> god, sometimes these files get lost when the connection is flaky (known bug - fixed in the dev. release)
[05:55] <god> Seveas:  Why does everyone use sudo? you think god would use sudo? no way. I totally go with root.
[05:55] <arnducky> Kzar[dot] net, Linux will rawwrie a floppy however you want -- the only limit is your hardware
[05:55] <Seveas> god, unless someone says he uses a root account I assume sudo :)
[05:55] <arnducky> err 'raw-write' that is
[05:56] <god> Seveas:  I decided not to log into IRC as root. =D
[05:56] <Seveas> :)
[05:56] <god> Seveas:  Rather, get the same effect with a different name.
[05:56] <cocox> nalioth, jaja allright you must hate me for asking the same ;) okok thnx
[05:56] <Kzar[dot] net> arnducky: does a PC floppy controler handle it too ?
[05:56] <arnducky> BTW, god thatnks for changing you nickame.  Very polite and accomodating of you and may G-d bless you for it.
[05:56] <psusi> no... the disk still only has 80 tracks... sometimes you can get 81 or 82 if you push it
[05:56] <psusi> depending on the disk and the drive
[05:56] <god> arnducky:  I'm for the people. I guess.
[05:57] <arnducky> Kzar[dot] net, does a floppy controller handle what?
[05:57] <god> I really hate people. Theyre idiots.
[05:57] <Nermal> I really hate god, but there we go
[05:57] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: of course but 11 sectors by track depends on controler or not ?
[05:57] <god> Seveas:  It came up with a similar error on the apt-get update
[05:57] <Seveas> god, please observe the CoC in here
[05:57] <arnducky> shhh... idiot might read that and get upset...
[05:57] <arnducky> LOL
[05:57] <Kzar[dot] net> arnducky: handle more than 9 sectors by track
[05:57] <Seveas> *sigh* i'm tired of this nonsense
[05:57] <Nermal> meh
[05:57] <psusi> Kzar[dot] net, the number of sectors per track depends on how you formatted the media
[05:57] <god> Seveas:  The CoC?
[05:57] <navarone> Seveas> is there a page available that shows status of regional repos...ie US, CA etc. I am having probs getting update from ca.archive repo...?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> !coc
[05:58] <Seveas> navarone, not that I know of
[05:58] <ubotu> coc is, like, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[05:58] <Nermal> code of conduct
[05:58] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: ok, I have to give a try ;
[05:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell god about coc
[05:58] <tritium> Good morning!
[05:58] <Nermal> they love it
[05:58] <psusi> usually floppies have 18 sectors per track... of 512 bytes each
[05:58] <nalioth> tritium: howdy
[05:58] <Nermal> lo tritium
[05:58] <psusi> but that leaves some unused space on the track
[05:58] <god> Seveas:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4997
[05:58] <tritium> hi nalioth, Nermal
[05:58] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: 9 sector by track by side, 2 sides :)
[05:58] <psusi> you can format the disk instead to use variable sector sizes
[05:59] <psusi> no... 18 sectors per track... 2 sides
[05:59] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: oops, for 1'44 floppies.
[05:59] <psusi> aye...
[05:59] <Seveas> god, ah right... {us,ca}.archive.ubuntu.com is down *again*
[05:59] <Seveas> you'd better switch to archive.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <navarone> Seveas> thanks...bummer
[05:59] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: I was thinking of good'ild 720k floppies :)
[05:59] <god> Seveas:  ...How do I switch...?
[05:59] <ionte> ... and there it goes again; system unresponsive. due to vmware this time ...
[06:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell god about repos
[06:00] <Kzar[dot] net> ionte: I don't use vmware since I have discover Freenx
[06:00] <markuman> wtf!!! http://pastebin.com/437240
[06:00] <nalioth> god: check your priv msg
[06:00] <psusi> rather than 18 512 byte sectors, you can format the media with a few various sized sectors... I forget the exact patern...
[06:00] <psusi> I think one was 4k, then a few of smaller sizes
[06:00] <Seveas> god: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:00] <god> nalioth:  Yeah...Why did you send me the CoC though?
[06:01] <nalioth> god: so you could read it at your leisure
[06:01] <ionte> Kzar[dot] net, oh? never heard of that. is it up to par with vmware? cause even vmware is too slow on my hardware to be really useful ...
[06:01] <onispawn> haha
[06:01] <Seveas> freenx and vmware are completely different things
[06:01] <Kzar[dot] net> ionte: Freenx is speeder than VMware.
[06:01] <god> Seveas:  It worked..but it said "Duplicate sources.list entry"
[06:01] <Seveas> freenx is sort-of vnc
[06:01] <ionte> Kzar[dot] net, still, the problem is that i don't have these freeze-due-to-excessive-memory-usage on other distros
[06:01] <Kzar[dot] net> Yep
[06:02] <psusi> I don't really remember now... floppies suck horribly
[06:02] <sklav> so any update on when the mirrors will be avail for US and CA?
[06:02] <Seveas> god, put the entire file on the pastebin - let's have a look :)
[06:02] <psusi> I hate floppies with a passion
[06:02] <skon> How do I install proFTPD ??
[06:02] <elwood> spike...
[06:02] <god> Seveas:  Nevermind. It worked after I ran it again
[06:02] <psusi> don't even have a floppy drive on this computer
[06:02] <Seveas> skon, apt-get install proftpd
[06:02] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: you are right :) But I can't read most of my atari floppies on PC... :-(
[06:02] <sklav> skon, do the following apt-get install proftpd
[06:02] <_phil> hey all
[06:02] <skon> E: Couldn't find package proftpd
[06:02] <Seveas> !info proftpd
[06:02] <sklav> hav you setup your apt?
[06:02] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[06:03] <Kzar[dot] net> ionte: have a look at http://www.nomachine.com/ and try the demo
[06:03] <psusi> Kzar[dot] net, weren't those 5.25 inch floppies?
[06:03] <Seveas> enable universe
[06:03] <Seveas> !tell skon about universe
[06:03] <_phil> I have a problem doing ./configure for anything, it says "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executable" does anyone know how to fix it?
[06:03] <Kzar[dot] net> psusi: hey, for sure they aren't !
[06:03] <god> Seveas:  IT jus tsays that libgl1-mesa-dev is the newest version.
[06:03] <Seveas> god, then it is installed :)
[06:03] <god> Seveas:  But when I ld -lglut it says it can't find lglut.
[06:03] <Seveas> ah, you want glut
[06:03] <thoreauputic> phiz:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:04] <_phil> thoreauputic: thanks
[06:04] <god> Seveas:  and GLU, and GLUX, I just need like the whole shabang
[06:04] <Kzar[dot] net> !ubotu help
[06:04] <Seveas> libglut3-dev - development libraries and headers for GLUT
[06:04] <ionte> Kzar[dot] net, freenx does not do the same as vwmare...
[06:05] <ionte> Kzar[dot] net, and what makes freenx superior to vnc?
[06:05] <Seveas> ionte, imagine a responsive desktop over a modem link
[06:05] <god> Woot.
[06:05] <Seveas> and then imagine vnc over a modem link
[06:05] <nico_at_net> hi
[06:05] <Seveas> THAT is the difference
[06:05] <god> Seveas:  Thanks. I think I can start working up my GL skills again. =D
[06:05] <Seveas> god, yw
[06:05] <Kzar[dot] net> ionte: just have a try to be convinced :)
[06:05] <nico_at_net> can y resor defaut parametre on gnome   ..??
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Seveas: your "system tray" applet for bmp is nice :) thanks !
[06:05] <LinuxN00bie> hello, had anyone experienced any lag when updating ubuntu recently?
[06:05] <ionte> Seveas, ok
[06:05] <_phil> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:05] <_phil> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:06] <Seveas> _phil, NEVER paste in here
[06:06] <_phil> ok
[06:06] <tritium> wtf-did-u-ban4, not cool, dude
[06:06] <ionte> Kzar[dot] net, but it *is not a virtual machine*!
[06:06] <wtf-did-u-ban4> Seveas if you were trying to get my attention, it worked
[06:06] <thoreauputic> _phil:  sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[06:06] <sklav> LinuxN00bie, yes there is an issue with the mirrors
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phazeman about xincludes
[06:06] <Seveas> wtf-did-u-ban4, hm?
[06:06] <Kzar[dot] net> ionte: freenx is kind of deported X session with fast transfert protocom
[06:06] <Kzar[dot] net> *protocol
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _phil about xincludes
[06:06] <LinuxN00bie> sklav, no wonder... i got a terribly slow speed :D
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thoreauputic about xincludes
[06:06] <chrissturm> if the us archive is down, does that mean that the mirrors also dont get updated?
[06:06] <wtf-did-u-ban4> But since I don't have a NICKSRV username I couldn't ask you with a /msg
[06:06] <_phil> ok, thanks all
[06:06] <Seveas> chrissturm, us IS the mirror
[06:07] <sklav> LinuxN00bie, you using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <wtf-did-u-ban4> <-- arnducky
[06:07] <Seveas> all other mirrors are updated
[06:07] <thoreauputic> nalioth: OK - thanks :)
[06:07] <sklav> and CA which is the same server
[06:07] <nalioth> wtf-did-u-ban4: it is not nice to avoid bans
[06:07] <chrissturm> Seveas, but de and at mirrors still get new dapper packages?
[06:07] <wtf-did-u-ban4> And I'd like to know what reason you set a ban for.
[06:07] <sklav> according to nslookup
[06:07] <LinuxN00bie> sklav, err nope
[06:07] <Seveas> wtf-did-u-ban4, I never banned you, just muted because of repeated off-topicness - which is undone already
[06:07] <wtf-did-u-ban4> nalioth, he didn't kick, he jsut banned
[06:07] <LinuxN00bie> sklav, i'm using archive.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <sklav> yes
[06:07] <thoreauputic> wtf-did-u-ban4: it was a +q not a ban
[06:07] <nalioth> wtf-did-u-ban4: whatever the issue, it is not nice to avoid the situation
[06:08] <sklav> but it says us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <thoreauputic> wtf-did-u-ban4: and he removed it quite a while ago anyway
[06:08] <LinuxN00bie> sklav, so archive.ubuntu.com is lagging or the us one?
[06:08] <wtf-did-u-ban4> Well, Seveas, why didn't you jsut say 'off topic' (I only saw a generic ban message in my IRC client)
[06:08] <sklav> according to your region you selected whne you installed
[06:08] <gnomefreak> de.archive.ubuntu.com works
[06:08] <sklav> they are probably 1 and the same
[06:08] <Seveas> wtf-did-u-ban4, i said that 3 times before
[06:08] <gnomefreak> us doesnt work its down
[06:08] <tritium> wtf-did-u-ban4, please change your nick back now, and drop the issue
[06:08] <LinuxN00bie> sklav, oh thx...
[06:08] <Seveas> now cut it out or it will be a ban
[06:08] <_phil> now it says there is a problem about Qt headers and libs not being found
[06:08] <Seveas> _phil, hint: use a binary package
[06:09] <selinium> arnducky, for offtopic chat   #ubuntu-offtopic   :)
[06:09] <sklav> no prob
[06:09] <arnducky> No offense, but if you ever feel it necessary to set amode again, please type at least a 3 word reason why
[06:09] <skon> !sources
[06:09] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:09] <_phil> Seveas: There isn't one :S
[06:09] <arnducky> !rules
[06:09] <ubotu> arnducky: Not a clue
[06:09] <Seveas> _phil, which pease of software
[06:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell arnducky about coc
[06:09] <Seveas> !rules is <reply> see coc
[06:09] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[06:10] <_phil> It's the Tiblit theme from KDE-look.org
[06:10] <_phil> there is a sources, openBSD and ebuild version
[06:10] <Seveas> _phil, right then install kde-dev
[06:10] <_phil> Seveas: ok thanks
[06:10] <Seveas> kde-devel that is
[06:11] <_phil> thanks =)
[06:11] <arnducky> I've read the Code of Conduct on the Ubuntu site and it says nothing about the minutiae of particular IRC community's netiquette -- it talks about RESPECT and a positive attitude only.
[06:11] <gnomefreak> the dev packages that are in synaptic. do they hold the source code for the packages in there?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> arnducky: *sigh* don't make a mountain of a molehill
[06:11] <tritium> arnducky, you don't want us to implement a ton of rules...that would be restrictive
[06:11] <arnducky> fine -- EOF/EOT
[06:11] <sabdfl> arnducky: it may be worth us creating a set of guidelines for irc
[06:12] <Nasso> does anyone know where the javapackages are placed in a ubuntusystem?
[06:12] <arnducky> 'guidelines' is a good term
[06:12] <chrissturm> will xorg in dapper be unbroken soon?
[06:12] <sabdfl> arnducky: they've had to do that in the forums, and it seems to be working
[06:12] <s_bartfast> does the base (5.10) install come with any command-line scripts for configuring xorg?
[06:12] <sabdfl> Nasso: universe
[06:12] <sabdfl> chrissturm: i hope so, it's b0rked for me too :-)
[06:12] <nalioth> arnducky: this is a help channel. help with ubuntu related issues. offtopic chat  (who's your g/f, boy that ball team rocks, wow that musician is hot!) belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:12] <tritium> sabdfl, we can certainly discuss them
[06:13] <Nasso> sabdfl, i got it installed. that is not what i mean :) i mean where in the filesystem do you place new packages if you want to use them when you code..
[06:13] <Seveas> s_bartfast, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <sabdfl> tritium: it may help for folks who are new to IRC if the netiquette stuff is made explicit
[06:13] <Tedd> Hi.
[06:13] <s_bartfast> cool, thanks
[06:13] <chrissturm> sabdfl: it will work for me as long as i dont reboot :)
[06:13] <regeya> !offtopic
[06:13] <ubotu> [offtopic]  Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:13] <Tedd> Noob question
[06:13] <Tedd> How do I open .bins
[06:13] <arnducky> I'm there now -- why don't you /JOIN there if you want to continue this.  See I'm not incorrigible -- just a slow learner.  Heh.
[06:13] <Seveas> sabdfl, tritium, indeed - the NuN team once created such guidelines
[06:13] <regeya> bots rock
[06:14] <nalioth> Tedd: depends on the bin (what type it is)
[06:14] <sabdfl> Nasso: out of my java depth there then :-)
[06:14] <Tedd> Well
[06:14] <sklav> ok i have noticed some issues in ubuntu 5.10
[06:14] <Tedd> I'm trying to download Java
[06:14] <chrissturm> Tedd, chmod +x <filename>, ./<filename>
[06:14] <Seveas> we should refer to them more often and try to keep them up-to-date
[06:14] <Seveas> *ping* nalioth :)
[06:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tedd about java
[06:14] <chrissturm> tedd: use the java-packagre tools
[06:14] <Belutz> wow, sabdfl is talking in here :)
[06:14] <sklav> mostly related to the way shorewall and the network start
[06:14] <sabdfl> in irssi, how do i switch between channels that i have joined?
[06:14] <Seveas> !tell tedd about java
[06:14] <Seveas> sabdfl, /win number_of_window
[06:14] <tritium> sabdfl, Alt-# should work, as should /win #
[06:14] <s_bartfast> another q: us.archive.ubuntu.com (as included in /etc/apt/sourceslist) seems to be down..... is there a list of alternative repositories somewhere?
[06:15] <Tedd> Hey, that's pretty handy!
[06:15] <nalioth> sabdfl: meta + number in your blue bar at the bottom
[06:15] <sabdfl> Seveas: gracias
[06:15] <sklav> issue is related to the fact that pppoe connection starts after shorewall
[06:15] <sklav> but if you change the S40Shorewall to S42Shorewall
[06:15] <tritium> nalioth, is more correct, with the meta-key, rather than Alt
[06:15] <_phil> s_bartfast: use these repos, the work fine for me http://psychocats.net/linux/sources.php
[06:15] <sklav> it works as expected.
[06:15] <arango> hi
[06:15] <gnomefreak> s_bartfast,  i changed them from us.archives to de archives and they worked fine
[06:15] <Seveas> sklav, file a bug at malone
[06:15] <Kzar[dot] net> Tux has now silicon implants ! http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/thinlinx_hottie_tux.jpg
[06:15] <s_bartfast> thank you
[06:16] <Seveas> !tell Kzar[dot] net about offtopic
[06:16] <zuen> Hi. anyone here run ubuntu on toshiba 4010?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> tritium: in gnome-terminal alt-number changes tabs instead :)
[06:16] <sklav> what or who is malone?
[06:16] <Seveas> !tell zuen about anyone
[06:16] <mannyman> What is the extra content on the DVD ?
[06:16] <Seveas> sklav, launchpad.net/malone - the bugtracker
[06:16] <arango> i ask many days here "how the hell print from windows machines to linux printers?" and no answer was the result
[06:16] <nalioth> mannyman: you get an install and live image on the dvd
[06:16] <Seveas> mannyman, all of the 'main' section
[06:16] <sklav> ok i will bookmark it
[06:16] <nalioth> Seveas: which dvd are we talking about?
[06:16] <tritium> thoreauputic, okay...I'm speaking from my irssi on mac experience ;)
[06:16] <arango> but don't worry finally i can print from windows (98/me and XP) on linux printers
[06:16] <mannyman> nalioth, so nothing extra ?
[06:17] <skon> Hello, I don't understand how the sources.list has to do with problems with apt-get install proftpd....can anyone help?
[06:17] <Seveas> nalioth, I assume an Ubuntu DVD :)
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has dvds now?
[06:17] <FireCat> arango: The short answer is to set up samba
[06:17] <chrissturm> sabdfl, the new xorg packages are now on archive.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <thoreauputic> tritium: oh, alt-number works fine in other terminals
[06:17] <Seveas> skon, because in that file you specify where to download from
[06:17] <arango> firecat: not as esay
[06:17] <nalioth> mannyman: you get all of main, in install and live images
[06:17] <tritium> thoreauputic, meta-# should, yes
[06:17] <skalpel> can someone tell me why gnomebaker freezes in the middle of burning an audio cd
[06:17] <zuen> OK. i need to know if toshiba 4010 will be able to run well with ubuntu 5.10... so i'm just asking if anyone has successfully install/use it. i've checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam but its not listed there.
[06:18] <Seveas> skalpel, because it's cold?
[06:18] <mannyman> and the CDs don't have all of main ?!
[06:18] <skon> Okay well I put in the sample one found at the site http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 and I tried the command again and I just get more errors
[06:18] <Seveas> zuen, what's the hardware in that machine?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> skalpel: sounds like a bug ;)
[06:18] <skalpel> seveas: are u being funny
[06:18] <skalpel> i think it has something to do with drm? is that correct
[06:18] <Seveas> skon, are you using hoary (5.04) or breezy (5.10)
[06:18] <skon> hoary
[06:18] <skalpel> i fixed it once but have since reinstalled
[06:18] <chrissturm> today is the first day with a temperature below zero here in *.at
[06:18] <Seveas> skon, and paste the errors on the pastebin
[06:18] <skalpel> something to do with my burner settings
[06:18] <zuen> Seveas: it is a laptop. let me show you the specs: http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/pc/ptg4010_report.htm
[06:18] <nalioth> mannyman: not enough room, i suspect
[06:18] <Seveas> zuen, gracias
[06:18] <thoreauputic> skalpel: do you mean "DMA" ?
[06:18] <Seveas> hang on a second
[06:19] <skon> K where's the pastebin
[06:19] <skalpel> YES
[06:19] <skalpel> dma. how do i enable that
[06:19] <zuen> Seveas: sure. thanks :-)
[06:19] <Seveas> !tell skon about pastebin
[06:19] <arango> bye tnx
[06:19] <thoreauputic> skalpel: hdparm
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell skalpel about dma
[06:19] <Seveas> !tell skalpel about dma
[06:19] <AndieB> HI all!
[06:19] <Seveas> damn you nalioth :p
[06:19] <wermut> Is it adviceful to install the graphics driver from the Intel homepage?
[06:19] <chrissturm> wermut, nope
[06:19] <Belutz> :p
[06:19] <thoreauputic> wermut: probably not :)
[06:19] <chrissturm> wermut, the intel driver is already in xorg
[06:20] <AndieB> I have trouble with my Wireless Ethernet. Ubuntu Linux (the latest stable version) never keeps my standardgateway. I set it to "ath0" but after rebooting, it is back to "eth0". What should I do?
[06:20] <Seveas> zuen, apart from the sd card reader it should work like a charm with Ubuntu
[06:20] <wermut> Thanks for the reply.
[06:20] <AndieB> Anyone?
[06:20] <Seveas> zuen, and the modem will also not work unless you jump through hoops and have luck
[06:20] <skon> K Serveas it's in the pastebin
[06:20] <zuen> Seveas: goo to hear that :) i'm downloading 5.10 as we speak and i hope everything detects well.
[06:20] <medom> how edit a pdf file???
[06:21] <zuen> Seveas: yeah. i've no luck with the soft modem on Fedora Core 4 as well.
[06:21] <binus> i was setting nat with iptables -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -t nat 192.168.0.0/24 and set ip_forward to 1 but i still can't get the client connected to the internet :(
[06:21] <sklav> Seveas, it wont let me create a bug report
[06:21] <Seveas> binus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4836
[06:22] <Seveas> sklav, you need to log in first
[06:22] <sklav> i am logged in
[06:22] <sklav> and accoutn created
[06:22] <binus> and btw, how to restart network in kubuntu?
[06:22] <sklav> i did a search to see if there where any open bugs already
[06:22] <rsilva> binus: sudo /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart
[06:22] <sklav> there was none so i select open a new bug
[06:22] <AndieB> Anyone?
[06:23] <binus> thanks
[06:23] <sklav> and i get a page cannot be displayed error
[06:23] <zuen> Seveas: currently the laptop is running winxp and i'm wondering if i should leave windows(boot.ini) control the dual boot sequence or use ubuntu lilo/grub for it. what do you suggest?
[06:23] <Chousuke>  usually do init.d/networking restart
[06:23] <sklav> i use grub
[06:23] <skon> Grub is good
[06:23] <Chousuke> Not sure what that does differently.
[06:23] <skon> I have the same as you zuen
[06:23] <Seveas> zuen, i'd suggest grub
[06:24] <Seveas> sklav, hmm, odd
[06:24] <zuen> hmm. grub...but that way i will need to format off windows first? i was thinking using partition magic on windows now to resize some free space and install ubuntu.
[06:24] <Seveas> sklav, con you PM me the details of the bug - i'll file it
[06:24] <sklav> yeah that is what i figured
[06:24] <Seveas> sklav, put your launhpad id in the msg too, so I can CC you
[06:24] <Belutz> binus, are you a binusian?
[06:24] <Seveas> zuen, the installer can resize your windows partition for you
[06:24] <Shadikka> Mr. Trouble is here again. ^^;
[06:25] <sklav> im trying to logout and try again ok
[06:25] <AndieB> Hmm... no help at all...
[06:25] <sklav> 2 minutes
[06:25] <skon> Seveas: would you mind looking at the pastebin just to see what I did wrong?
[06:25] <binus> Belutz: yes i am..
[06:25] <Shadikka> What on earth is wrong when I get error "Unknown file system, partition type 0x7" when trying to boot from GRUB?
[06:25] <zuen> Seveas: really? cool. so i can just pop in the disc from boot and do the manual partition w/o erasing my existing windows partition?
[06:25] <Belutz> binus, are there a lot of binusian using ubuntu?
[06:25] <Seveas> zuen, yeah
[06:25] <Shadikka> Since I've reformatted, repartitioned and rebecamecrazy a few times already...
[06:25] <binus> Belutz: nope.. just some
[06:26] <Seveas> skon, sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <Seveas> brb - phone
[06:26] <fredforfaen> I want to use the i686 kernel , the k7 kernel is currently the operating one but i686 is installed.If i turn off 3d accelleration but typing in "nv" at driver in xorg.con the i686 kernel works fine...but when i follow the instructions for installing nvidia drivers it installs it on the old , k7 , kernel....How can i solve this?I want the i686 kernel , badly....
[06:26] <Belutz> binus, i see, could you join me in #ubuntu-id ?
[06:26] <zuen> Seveas: OK. guess this page is for me: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[06:26] <skon> oh okay thanks
[06:26] <rsilva> fredforfaen: install linux-restrictedmodules-yourkernelofcoice
[06:27] <PyIRC> Hello.
[06:27] <rsilva> fredforfaen: For example: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686
[06:27] <fredforfaen> rsilva ill try
[06:27] <fredforfaen> i c rsilva
[06:27] <binus> Seveas: so i need to copy paste the script to a file
[06:27] <fredforfaen> ill try
[06:27] <Shadikka> Can anyone help with that not-booting problem?
[06:28] <binus> Seveas: and then set the IP (LAN & WAN), then running the script with ./thefilename  ?
[06:28] <Shadikka> I've even tried to install it on my external drive and when trying to boot from there, it says "Missing operating system."
[06:28] <Shadikka> I'm very nearly banging my head to the wall - once again...
[06:28] <Seveas> binus, yeah
[06:29] <Seveas> binus, you need to set IP and IF for both LAN and WAN
[06:29] <RedRose> where is a good place to et ubuntu repositories?
[06:30] <[Kismet] > where can I find information on how works the map directive of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:30] <tritium> [Kismet] , man interfaces
[06:31] <Shadikka> Just to ask, can you even see what I type? o.O
[06:31] <RedRose> where is a get repositories
[06:31] <Seveas> Shadikka, not at all, try some color ;)
[06:31] <chimaera> hi. is there any information on the patched-in zd1211 driver of the ubuntu kernel available? i can't get it to work.. (the sourceforge driver is running, though)..
[06:31] <Seveas> !tell RedRose about repos
[06:31] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[06:31] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:31] <blanky> how can I install a splsash screen
[06:32] <blanky> how can I install a splash screen, anyone?
[06:32] <m_akys> \join #ubuntu-es
[06:32] <chimaera> other way ;)
[06:32] <Shadikka> Seveas, *wirn* I'd perefer not to ;D
[06:33] <m_akys> :D
[06:33] <tritium> blanky, are you asking about usplash?  If it's not enabled for you now, you need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[06:34] <blanky> tritium, I mean a splash screen, you know, once you log in, theres a picture of ubuntu loading the stuff
[06:34] <tritium> blanky, that's usplash
[06:34] <RedRose> is the upgrade to dapper worth it?
[06:34] <tritium> RedRose, not now, X is broken
[06:34] <cocox> hi where is the default install directory in ubuntu? i already intalled xmms and dont know where to find their files,,,
[06:35] <blanky> tritium, oh it is, and so what do I do to use it
[06:35] <tritium> cocox, dpkg -L <packagename> will list package contents
[06:35] <tritium> blanky, see my previous message
[06:35] <cocox> tritium, ok now i found it thnk u a lot!
[06:35] <blanky> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[06:36] <blanky> exactly like that?
[06:36] <blanky> or do I sub something in for image or something
[06:36] <Shadikka> What can I do to the error "Unknown file system, partition type 0x7" :E
[06:36] <tritium> cocox, :)
[06:36] <tritium> blanky, just like that
[06:37] <strokey> anyone here experiances with ndiswraper? ><
[06:37] <blanky> thanks
[06:37] <blanky> tritium, apparently its done, now what
[06:37] <eatnumber1> shadikka: is that partition your talking about NTFS?
[06:38] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[06:38] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:38] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, nope...
[06:38] <Shadikka> It's at least supposed to be ext3
[06:38] <tritium> blanky, verify that it works on your next reboot
[06:38] <eatnumber1> shadikka: do u have a dual-boot system?
[06:38] <blanky> tritium: but where do I put my splash image
[06:39] <tritium> blanky, it's already configured
[06:39] <io_error> OK, apt/dpkg is driving me mad
[06:39] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, yes.
[06:39] <io_error> How do I list all the files that were installed from a package?
[06:39] <onkarshinde> blanky: Are you talking about grub splash image?
[06:39] <blanky> no not grub splash image
[06:39] <Shadikka> Dual-boot with (now-broken) WinXP.
[06:39] <m_akys> I have a problem with my sound card. I have a intelx0 (ac97) on board. Ubuntu load the module, but I can't change the volume level with master channel. I must change the headphone channel!!
[06:39] <eatnumber1> shadikka: is your windows partition NTFS?
[06:39] <onkarshinde> io_error: dpkg -L packagename
[06:39] <blanky> I mean, you know how after you log in, there's a splash image that shows you it's loading something
[06:40] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, yes.
[06:40] <blanky> onkarshinde, read above
[06:40] <Tedd> Huh.
[06:40] <eatnumber1> shadikka: and do u use GRUB to boot to windows?
[06:40] <io_error> onkarshinde: thanks
[06:40] <Tedd> I'm having a little bit of problem with the repositories.
[06:40] <onispawn> blanky: the gnome splash?
[06:40] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, well, I have GRUB on /dev/sda2 (USB drive) and NTLDR on /dev/hdb1 (MBR)
[06:40] <io_error> Now, why can't I connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:40] <nalioth> Tedd: edit your sources.list adn remove the us. or ca. from the front of archive.blah
[06:40] <blanky> onispawn, that!
[06:40] <onkarshinde> blanky: You can put it anywhere. But I think you will have to modify the setting using GConf editor
[06:40] <Shadikka> Should I just try to take the hard disk of? :P
[06:40] <Shadikka> *off
[06:40] <io_error> bah
[06:40] <onispawn> blanky: what do you want to do to it?
[06:40] <Shadikka> I mean the XP one.
[06:41] <tritium> blanky, I'm not talking about grub
[06:41] <blanky> wait, how do I set it?
[06:41] <onkarshinde> io_error: read topic
[06:41] <nalioth> io_error:  edit your sources.list adn remove the us. or ca. from the front of archive.blah
[06:41] <blanky> I want to use a different gnome splash I got from gnome-look.org
[06:41] <blanky> how do I set it
[06:41] <pztak> i'm getting a weird dependency error with nidswrapper 1.5 -- has anyone had luck installing it?
[06:41] <Tedd> Err
[06:41] <eatnumber1> shadika: dunno then... srry
[06:41] <io_error> too late, already did that :)
[06:41] <Tedd> How would I go about doing that
[06:41] <Tedd> Is that a terminal command
[06:42] <eatnumber1> shadika:  id recommend googling that error
[06:42] <onispawn> blanky: click system->preferences->Splash Screen
[06:42] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, ok, I'll just try to remove the Windows hard drive >:)~ And OK, I'll use teh Google.
[06:42] <onispawn> blanky: you can add it to that menu, and activate it
[06:42] <blanky> onispawn, I dont have system -> preferences -> splashscreen
[06:42] <blanky> how do I add it to the menu
[06:42] <eatnumber1> shadikka: oh!
[06:43] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, ah, Google helped a bit...
[06:43] <Tedd> How does one edit their sources?
[06:43] <blanky> onispawn, please, how cna I add that to the menu, I dont have splash screen in preferences
[06:43] <eatnumber1> shadikka: im not sure if this applies entirely, but ive had problems with installs if I had another boot loader in the MBR of my /dev/hda0
[06:43] <Shadikka> now I only apparently should get to configure GRUB - and it's interesting since I can't boot my computer to anything o.O
[06:43] <onispawn> blanky: just a sec
[06:43] <blanky> kay
[06:43] <onkarshinde> blanky: If you do as I say you will be able to change it
[06:43] <Shadikka> eatnumber1, ok, brb, I'll try a few things...
[06:44] <onispawn> blanky: in the console type the command `gnome-splashscreen-manager`
[06:44] <Tedd> !tell tedd about editing sources
[06:44] <Tedd> Damn.
[06:44] <pztak> i'm getting a weird dependency error with nidswrapper 1.5 -- has anyone had luck installing it?
[06:44] <m_akys> How can I swap the master and headphone sound channels?
[06:45] <onkarshinde> blanky: Open gconf-editor (Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor)
[06:45] <cycom> pztak: what kind of weird dependancy error?
[06:45] <Tedd> Sorry about that.
[06:46] <strokey> Anyone here experiances enough with ndiswrapper to help a complete noob to linux and stuff to help install it?
[06:46] <pebs> does anyone know how to configure xsupplicant for eap-leap wifi?? (please pm me)
[06:46] <Tedd> So how does one go about editing their sources?
[06:46] <[Kismet] > Do you know if ipw2200 stop to work if I start my laptop with ACPI disabled?
[06:46] <pztak> cycom, the module package wanted the utils package to be installed, and vice-versa.. i tried forcing it, but then apt-get -f install would want to erase them both
[06:46] <Tedd> Or should I just wait until us.archive.ubuntu.com is up again
[06:46] <blanky> gnome-splashscreen-manager didnt work, im in configuration editor
[06:46] <binus> Seveas: i have topology like this: eth0 (IP: 192.168.2.2/24 Gw: 192.168.2.1) and eth1 (IP: 192.168.3.1/24), the eth0 is connected to PC Router (Mikrotik) and the eth1 connected to the client (IP: 192.168.3.2), the situation is i can do internet from this kubuntu, but the client (192.168.3.2) can't ping www.google.com and anything :( would you help me solve the problem
[06:46] <[Kismet] > strokey, NDisWrapper is easy to install... just follow the documentation on their website
[06:46] <cycom> [Kismet] : don't disable acpi! there are better ways.  What kind of laptop is it?
[06:46] <strokey> [Kismet] : tried :(
[06:47] <teroedni> could someone tell me if nvidia drivers here http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_amd64_archive.html
[06:47] <[Kismet] > strokey, you'll have to use the console and command line but nothing too difficult..
[06:47] <onkarshinde> blanky: in conf editor go to apps->gnome-session
[06:47] <teroedni> are installed in ubuntu
[06:47] <blanky> there
[06:47] <teroedni> or are ubuntu using open source driver for nforce chipset?
[06:47] <binus> Seveas: this is my setting: http://pastebin.com/437289
[06:47] <blanky> ah I see it onkarshinde thanks!
[06:47] <cycom> pztak: try apt-get build-dep for the package you need?
[06:48] <Tedd> ANybody know how to change their sources?
[06:48] <blanky> onkarshinde, can you tell me where that folder is, splash
[06:48] <cycom> [Kismet] : why are you shutting of acpi?
[06:48] <god> Anyone want to help me with OpenGL? #opengl is...dead.
[06:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tedd about repos
[06:48] <pztak> cycom, i actually just got it to work, i used the --force-configure-any on the module package, rather than just --force-any.. thanks though!
[06:48] <binus> Seveas: when i run the script.. i didn't get any error, but the client PC still can't do internet
[06:48] <onispawn> god: what do you want to do?
[06:48] <cycom> pztak: np. it was kind of a shot in the dark
[06:48] <[Kismet] > cycom, beacuse otherwise the laptop do not boot due to kernel OOPS :-(
[06:48] <fredforfaen> !grub
[06:48] <god> onispawn:  I get this when I run my compiled source::: something: freeglut_main.c:1069: glutMainLoop: Assertion `fgState.Initialised' failed.
[06:48] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:48] <cycom> [Kismet] : what kind of laptop?
[06:48] <onkarshinde> blanky: /usrshare/pixmaps/splash
[06:49] <blanky> thanks
[06:49] <Toriyama> .
[06:50] <tool> hola
[06:50] <Tedd> Fuck it. I'll just wait until Us.Archive.Ubuntu.Com is back up
[06:50] <fredforfaen> how do i manually set what kernel is default in grub?
[06:50] <Toriyama> hola
[06:50] <onispawn> god: hmm.. you including the glut library?
[06:51] <god> onispawn:  Yeah.
[06:51] <god> onispawn:  It's compiled, remember?
[06:51] <tool> hey
[06:51] <tool> por que nadie habla?
[06:51] <tool> bueno me voy
[06:51] <redguy> !es
[06:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:52] <Impi> Has anybody else experienced problems after installing msttfonts?
[06:52] <binus> does someone else can help me with this NAT problem? :( i need it badly
[06:53] <blanky> last question; how do I install cursor themes
[06:53] <[Kismet] > cycom, it's not mine, I don't rember the model number but I've already looked to LaptopTestingTeam wiki pages and is not listed
[06:53] <Shadikka> now THIS should be enough to make it work ^^
[06:53] <Impi> I am now unable to read any of the text in Ubuntu's wiki explanation boxes. You know, the slightly offset boxes containing instruction sets.
[06:53] <Shadikka> I took my Windows HDD off and I'm installing Ubuntu again. If it won't work NOW, I'll really go damage the nearest wall with my head.
[06:53] <redguy> binus: nobody
[06:53] <ke> Haha
[06:54] <redguy> binus: not till you ask your question
[06:54] <ke> Shadikka, I feel with ya'! Been messing a lot with it as well
[06:54] <ke> Life's a bitch
[06:54] <ke> Then you die
[06:54] <onkarshinde> Shadikka: Can yu once tell me your problem?
[06:54] <redguy> binus: aah you asked it aleardy, let me scroll
[06:55] <jared> am I the only one having trouble connecting to the repositories?
[06:55] <binus> redguy i already ask my question: i have topology like this: eth0 (IP: 192.168.2.2/24 Gw: 192.168.2.1) and eth1 (IP: 192.168.3.1/24), the eth0 is connected to PC Router (Mikrotik) and the eth1 connected to the client (IP: 192.168.3.2), the situation is i can do internet from this kubuntu, but the client (192.168.3.2) can't ping www.google.com and anything :( would you help me solve the problem. This is my setting: http://pastebin.com/437289
[06:55] <kevogod> jared, No
[06:55] <Impi> I'm having problem connecting to the za.ubuntu.com repositories
[06:55] <Impi> problems*
[06:55] <onkarshinde> jared: !topic
[06:56] <onispawn> god: sorry. Im trying to find my opengl stuff to see if I have ever come across that error before
[06:56] <spartas> If I want to use svnserve with inetd, what permissions do I have to give the repository (it's giving me errors on commits)
[06:56] <jared> onkarshinde: sry.
[06:56] <ubuntulivecd> is there a way to have ubuntu automount all partions on all disks, and have shortcuts on the desktop?
[06:57] <god> onispawn:  I've never come across it and I've been doing OpenGL for almost a year now
[06:57] <onkarshinde> !tell ubuntulivecd about winmac
[06:57] <onispawn> god: yea. it sounds familiar to me. just trying to remember the password for the server to get my notes
[06:57] <aquarius> Can I start up an already-logged-in X session in an Xnest? So I can have my Gnome desktop running both on my desktop itself and then again in an Xnest window?
[06:57] <onkarshinde> !tell ubuntulivecd about ntfs
[06:57] <ubuntulivecd> thanks onkarshinde
[06:58] <fredforfaen> vmware
[06:58] <fredforfaen> !vmware
[06:58] <Impi> Has anybody else had the same problem with the instructions boxes on the Ubuntu Wiki? (ie of there being no visible text)
[06:58] <ubotu> fredforfaen: What?
[06:58] <redguy> binus: I'm no iptalbes whizz, but it seems that echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is missing, maining that you don't have packet forwarding enabled
[06:58] <onkarshinde> aquarius: I suppose no. Xnest is for new session IMHO
[06:58] <fredforfaen> anybody here got vmware working on breezy?
[06:58] <aquarius> onkarshinde, ah, OK. I was hoping that that wasn't the case :)
[06:59] <onkarshinde> fredforfaen: Don't know about vmware but bochs and qemu are good
[06:59] <fredforfaen> how do i use qemu?
[06:59] <Pegasos989> I dunno much about linux firewalls. Can someone please tell me if these are safe to do? http://dcgui.berlios.de/doc/manual.html#networking-firewall
[06:59] <redguy> binus: I use shorewall, maybe you want to look into that? Once you learn it it's pretty intuitive...
[06:59] <onkarshinde> fredforfaen: install from synaptic
[06:59] <ubuntulivecd> also, why would the language selector only give me one language? I used the live cd in another computer and it gave me like 30
[06:59] <binus> redguy: i already do "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward   and   add _net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 to /etc/sysctl.conf
[07:00] <fredforfaen> think i already have it installed onkarshinde but i never worked out how i should use it..:|
[07:00] <binus> redguy: yes... if that works
[07:00] <redguy> binus: can you ping the gateway?
[07:00] <fredforfaen> !qemu
[07:00] <ubotu> [qemu]  an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[07:00] <Impi> Argh, I can just see myself doing a full wipe and reinstall
[07:01] <Impi> What a way to spend an hour
[07:01] <binus> redguy: yes i can ping the eth0 and eth1 IP from client
[07:01] <[Kismet] > Which package contain the man pages realted to the  documentation of printf c function?
[07:01] <god> Impi:  I spent 4 hours last night trying to install OpenGL by myself.
[07:01] <redguy> binus: can you ping 72.14.207.99 [google.com] ?
[07:01] <god> Impi:  Ended up waiting until this morning and asking someone.
[07:02] <binus> redguy: nope :(
[07:02] <spartas> anyone help me get the permissions right for an svn repo using inetd in breezy (i already have installed the netkit-inetd package)
[07:02] <Impi> god: ouch. I guess an hour doesn't sound too bad compared to that. Besides, it' s still a new installation I guess, I won't lose much
[07:02] <god> Impi:  lol. Good luck with it.
[07:02] <Impi> Though I did manage to get Picasa working through Wine (easier than I thought)
[07:02] <redguy> binus: not sure i understood you; can you ping 192.168.2.1 from the host on the 192.168.3.0 network?
[07:02] <god> I can't even find wine.
[07:02] <god> Impi: How did you get wine?
[07:03] <Impi> god: I got it from WineHQ, they've got instructions on adding their repository to the Synaptic list, and you just go from there.
[07:03] <god> Impi:  I'll have to try that later. I'll write it on my screen
[07:03] <binus> redguy: i can't ping 2.1 because 2.1 is on mikrotik PC Router (as my kubuntu gateway.. in kubuntu the ip is 2.2 eth0)
[07:04] <fredforfaen> !backports
[07:04] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[07:04] <Shadikka> onkarshinde, sorry, I apparently haven't noticed anything -.- My bad *sigh* I blame my sister, this is her configuration on mIRC. Hard to see anything...
[07:04] <binus> redguy: but i can ping 2.2
[07:04] <jose__> you can install wine with Automatix
[07:04] <Shadikka> Well, to put it shortly: I'm trying to get WinXP and Ubuntu to dual-boot. And I'm not succeeding.
[07:04] <jose__> it is really easy
[07:04] <Impi> god: It's great. I'd always thought Wine was a silly little program for running outdated Win32 programs. This is the first time I've realised that it's actually a pretty powerful, and impressive, bit of software. Consider me proven wrong.
[07:04] <redguy> binus: that doesn't mean anything... you mean that your router doesn't reply to pings?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Shadikka,  did you install ubuntu last
[07:05] <Shadikka> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu now, without the WinXP HDD connected.
[07:05] <jose__> Shadikka, do you have windows already installed?
[07:05] <Shadikka> Well, yes and no. I'm reinstalling it.
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Shadikka,  install xp than install ubuntu and grub should pick xp up
[07:05] <Pegasos989> I dunno much about linux firewalls. Can someone please tell me if these are safe to do? http://dcgui.berlios.de/doc/manual.html#networking-firewall Just a few command changing iptables and such I thinks.
[07:05] <Shadikka> gnomefreak, ok...
[07:05] <god> Impi:  I might need it for WC3...
[07:05] <redguy> binus: what does sudo ip route list say on your 3.1 host?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Shadikka,  have the xp hd connected too
[07:05] <binus> redguy: do you mean the 2.1 (PC Router / Mikrotik)? yes, it doesn't reply anything
[07:06] <jose__> i think the easiest way is to install first winXP, let some free space on the disk (not partitioned) and then install ubuntu
[07:06] <Shadikka> Yeah..
[07:06] <gnomefreak> xp's boot loader is garbage
[07:06] <jose__> ubuntu will install grub so you can boot both OS's
[07:06] <gnomefreak> keep that in mind
[07:06] <onispawn> god: could you show me the command you used to compile your program?
[07:06] <Shadikka> But I have to install Linux in order to backup my stuff from the XP HDD in order to format it in order to reinstall XP.
[07:06] <Shadikka> Nicey, eh? :E
[07:06] <redguy> binus: hmm that doesn't help us much
[07:06] <Impi> god: Getting WC3 running via Wine would be awesome. They say it can be done, though I have yet to try it.
[07:06] <eatnumber1> gnomefreak: x'pseverything is garbage
[07:06] <gnomefreak> Shadikka,  you using 2 hds?
[07:06] <jose__> do you have free space on the HDD?
[07:06] <Shadikka> gnomefreak, actually three.
[07:06] <eatnumber1> xp's*
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lol true eatnumber1
[07:07] <binus> redguy: 192.168.3.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.3.2 default via 192.168.3.1 dev eth0
[07:07] <Shadikka> But I'm not using my external drive now..
[07:07] <god> onispawn g++ something.cpp -lglut -lGL -lGLU -o something
[07:07] <Shadikka> ah, brb, next stage of installation -->
[07:07] <gnomefreak> ok Shadikka  if xp and ubuntu will be on different drives dont touch xp once installed just reinstall ubuntu
[07:07] <god> Impi:  You can run CS on it so I'm sure you can run WC3.
[07:07] <Impi> god: Yep, so I heard. That's pretty impressive.
[07:07] <Badm4n> horayyyy
[07:07] <redguy> binus: hmmmmm
[07:08] <Badm4n> i'm using ubuntu 5.10 now
[07:08] <Badm4n> connected using linksys 11 wusb 2.4
[07:08] <Badm4n> thx pplz
[07:08] <jose__> have someone used ndiswrapper to install a wireless card in ubuntu?
[07:08] <Pegasos989> Impi and god, so you can install warcraft 3 thro wine, no cedega etc required? Does it need a lot of configurating wine?
[07:08] <Badm4n> now
[07:08] <redguy> binus: so it's not possible to make your mikrotik router reply to pings?
[07:08] <god> Pegasos989:  I don't know I don't have wine yet.
[07:08] <Badm4n> what should or where i can get preference about securing my debian ?
[07:08] <Badm4n> i mean ubuntu
[07:08] <Impi> pegasos989: I've never tried it myself, so I can't help you there unfortunately.
[07:08] <god> Pegasos989:  I'm working on getting all my programming needs up first.
[07:08] <Badm4n> sorry wrong word
[07:09] <Pegasos989> Pfft. Programming needs before wc3? You disgust me
[07:09] <gnomefreak> Badm4n,  what do you mean securing ubuntu?
[07:09] <god> Pegasos989:  I'm going to be a programmer for a living. xD
[07:09] <binus> redguy: just a minute..
[07:09] <Impi> god: It would be great if Wine or a derivative could one day allow us to run all Win programs seamlessly. Unfortunately that's unlikely, but we can dream, right?
[07:09] <Badm4n> i mean
[07:09] <Badm4n> to lear about ubuntu server admin
[07:09] <Pegasos989> god, two words: War Craft
[07:09] <Pegasos989> :/
[07:10] <god> Impi:   All you need is the source code and a good understand of the language they made it in.
[07:10] <god> Pegasos989:  One integer: $64,000
[07:10] <Badm4n> i start with make secure my pc first then apply to my server
[07:10] <redguy> binus: LAN_NET=192.168.0.0/24
[07:10] <redguy>  <----- shouldn't it be 192.168.3.0/24 ??
[07:10] <Pegasos989> god, okay, you won
[07:10] <Badm4n> so ? any idea ?
[07:10] <binus> redguy: i can do ping and get reply from mikrotik pc router ip (192.168.2.1)
[07:10] <god> Pegasos989:  That's starting wage for a programmer. Lol
[07:10] <franchu> nas
[07:10] <god> Pegasos989:  I'll get to WC3 in a minute or two.
[07:10] <redguy> binus: from which host? both?
[07:10] <Shadikka> w00t! It works!
[07:10] <Impi> god: True
[07:10] <Pegasos989> cause 64k can buy a lot of warcraft 3 copies :/
[07:10] <binus> redguy: i already try with 3.0 too but still problem... let me check it once again
[07:11] <Shadikka> It's just installing the packages now x)
[07:11] <Badm4n> what should or where i can get preference about HOWTO make secure my ubuntu ?
[07:11] <god> Pegasos989:  and buy computers for 600 people and have one gigantic LAN Party.
[07:11] <Pegasos989> :O
[07:11] <Pegasos989> cheap comps
[07:11] <gnomefreak> Badm4n,  if your asking about a firewall there is a firewall wrote into the kernel
[07:11] <god> Pegasos989:  Lol. I guess, yeah.
[07:11] <Impi> god and Pegasos989: Don't forget the money you need to spend to have 600 friends in the first place :P
[07:11] <Pegasos989> :P
[07:11] <eatnumber1> whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when it is installing the packages, it gives me some weird error
[07:11] <nalioth> god: Pegasos989: Impi: y'all discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:11] <god> Impi:  I have tons of friends.
[07:12] <eatnumber1> and I can never get ubuntu to install correctly
[07:12] <Shadikka> But, one question: Is it possible to install Ubuntu without the WinXP HDD on and then install XP without the Ubuntu HDD on and then configure GRUB to boot XP also?
[07:12] <god> nalioth:  Yes mother.
[07:12] <binus> redguy: i still can't ping internet / pc router ip
[07:12] <Pegasos989> nalioth, okayokay. :(
[07:12] <Impi> god: Didn't mean to imply you didn't
[07:12] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  error that looks like us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:12] <Impi> nalioth: ok
[07:12] <onispawn> god: not sure what to tell you on that one. seems like the way your initializing your window is making it crash. you should try debugging it, and making sure all the values are what you expect them to be
[07:12] <Impi> Oh yes, time for a serious question. How do I get Grub to boot up to WinXP first by default?
[07:12] <god> onispawn:  Alright. Thanks.
[07:12] <Shadikka> Impi, grub.lst?
[07:12] <eatnumber1> gnomefreak: no, the error is like the installer crashes, and I see a grey screen with alot of texe
[07:12] <onispawn> god: you know how to debug Im assuming?
[07:13] <eatnumber1> text*
[07:13] <Shadikka> eurh, menu.lst I mean
[07:13] <binus> redguy: i can do ping to the mikrotik pc router ip (192.168.2.1) from this kubuntu (where i need to set the NAT for the client)
[07:13] <Impi> Shadikka, where do I modify that?
[07:13] <Pegasos989> I dunno much about linux firewalls. Can someone please tell me if these are safe to do? http://dcgui.berlios.de/doc/manual.html#networking-firewall Just a few command changing iptables and such I thinks.
[07:13] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  did you burn the cd after downloading it?
[07:13] <Shadikka> Impi, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:13] <Impi> ah, thanks
[07:13] <god> onispawn:  Yeah.
[07:13] <Shadikka> np.
[07:13] <eatnumber1> gnomefreak: yes... but im sure its a valid cd, i did a md5 check on the ISO and on the cd
[07:13] <onispawn> god: alright. good luck
[07:14] <god> onispawn:  The error says glutMainLoop..
[07:14] <eatnumber1> and I used the installer
[07:14] <eatnumber1> to check it
[07:14] <god> onispawn:  So, it's happening the second time around, or on the loop func?
[07:14] <PinTo> l o i have a problem compileing my kernel
[07:14] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  what speed did you burn it?
[07:14] <PinTo> can ne 1 help plz
[07:14] <eatnumber1> 48x
[07:14] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  reburn it at the lowest possible speed
[07:14] <eatnumber1> but the installer said the media was valid
[07:14] <Badm4n> gnomefreak, and every1 ... i mean make my ubuntu secure with a services... which 1 is needed and which 1 are vulner and unNeeded
[07:14] <sklav> for all those worried ;)
[07:15] <PinTo> i cant "make-kpkg clean
[07:15] <redguy> binus: hmm lest's try one last thing
[07:15] <sklav> us.archives.ubuntu.com is back
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ty sklav
[07:15] <PinTo> but i can make clean
[07:15] <onispawn> god: its happening in the glut loop fuction
[07:15] <Impi> alright, time to go reinstall! (cue scary Jaws-style music) (also cue a dozen people groaning at the lameness of the previous comment)
[07:15] <gnomefreak> brb let me change sources again
[07:15] <onispawn> god: some point after you turn your application over to glut
[07:15] <onispawn> god: it might be a call back function error
[07:16] <binus> redguy: yes.. i'm waiting for it :) /me pray it will works
[07:16] <redguy> binus: in $IPT --table filter --append INPUT --in-interface ! $WAN_IF --jump ACCEPT change "! $WAN_IF" to "$LAN_IF"
[07:16] <god> onispawn:  I inster glutIdleFunc and now it has the error there.
[07:16] <god> onispawn:  insert*
[07:16] <eatnumber1> gnomefreak: im booting ubuntu live so I can reburn it at 1x
[07:17] <PinTo> and this doesnt work at all "make-kpkg --revision=786:MyKernel2.6.14 kernel_image" n e 1 know there correct binary
[07:17] <redguy> binus: as I've said, I'm no iptables guru, but this line looks kindof suspicious
[07:17] <onispawn> god: would you be willing to send me your source so I could look at it?
[07:17] <PinTo> and this doesnt work at all "make-kpkg --revision=786:Kernel2.6.14 kernel_image" n e 1 know there correct binary
[07:17] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  i have burned tham as high as 8 but they say burn at slowest
[07:17] <god> onispawn:  Yeah just a sec.
[07:17] <eatnumber1> gnomefreak: but still, since it said the media was valid, dosent that mean that there isent any problems with it?
[07:18] <god> onispawn:  It's been a while since I ever made a program..so yeah.
[07:18] <PinTo> going once
[07:18] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  there can be issues when burning too fast i dont make the rules i just know them :(
[07:18] <PinTo> going twice
[07:18] <binus> redguy: it didn't works :( ok thanks mate... i will try ask in other channel :) thanks!
[07:19] <nalioth> eatnumber1: if the md5sums check on the iso, burn it as slow as you can, there have been issues with high-speed burns in some cases
[07:19] <god> onispawn:  I'll put it on pastebin
[07:19] <PinTo> instead of using "make-kpkg --revision=786:Kernel2.6.14 kernel_image" n e 1 got another suggestion
[07:19] <redguy> binus: np. look into shorewall if you won't manage with this
[07:19] <eatnumber1> nalioth: the md5sum checked the iso AND the cd
[07:19] <onispawn> ok
[07:19] <god> onispawn:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d5003
[07:19] <PinTo> one that relevant to ubuntu 5.10
[07:20] <nalioth> eatnumber1: i'm just reporting what we've seen in here. perhaps try it in another machine/drive
[07:20] <binus> redguy: ok :)
[07:20] <eatnumber1> nalioth: and I used the ubuntu installer's check disc finction which said the disc was valid
[07:20] <eatnumber1> nalioth: its the only 64bit comp i have
[07:20] <nalioth> eatnumber1: ok then, might be the hardware
[07:20] <PinTo> i have had to modify the guide a few times but i'am stuck on this one
[07:20] <sklav> be back later all
[07:21] <PinTo> <-----second day ubunoob
[07:21] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  the iso might be good but if the burn got interuppted by something like your disk drive or left a file in download and never burned it it will cause that problem burning it at slower speed is how its fixed unless its a hardware issue
[07:22] <binus> redguy: do you have the script for setting shorewall easily
[07:22] <PinTo> i cant belive i follow an a ubuntu guide and it never works consistantly
[07:23] <eatnumber1> gnomefreak: k3b checked the md5hash of the actual CD after it burned it. Also, ubuntu's installer has a check cd function which said it was valid
[07:23] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1, k3b checks the md5 before the copy not after it just verifies the copy was made
[07:24] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1,  look man im not gonna argue with you if you dont want to reburn it dont ok but me and nalioth  have told you to see if it fixes it
[07:24] <eatnumber1> ah, ok... but the installer in expert mode has a check cd function too
[07:24] <eatnumber1> srry, i diddent mean to be arguing
[07:25] <gnomefreak> eatnumber1, so do most other distros and not one have i found to be very accurate
[07:26] <eatnumber1> any particular writing mode I shud burn it with?
[07:26] <PinTo> can some1 help me
[07:26] <nalioth> eatnumber1: the mode where you can enjoy a hot cuppa cocoa while it burns, lol
[07:26] <gnomefreak> iso eatnumber1  let it pick the mode for you just change the write speed
[07:26] <eatnumber1> k
[07:26] <gnomefreak> lol nalioth
[07:27] <eatnumber1> ok, its burning
[07:27] <PinTo> so close but so far away
[07:27] <djm62> ok, no ubuntu polish room?
[07:27] <gnomefreak> sit back and wait for now :) it might be a while
[07:27] <PinTo> i have my kernel setup for my machine alls i need to is compile it...and lnk kernel image
[07:27] <nalioth> djm62: #ubuntu-pl
[07:28] <god> gnomefreak:  I noticed it takes like a year to burn a CD on linux that would take me 2 minutes on windows. Lol
[07:28] <strokey> Anyone here experianced enough with ndiswrapper to help a complete noob to linux and stuff to help install it?
[07:28] <djm62> nalioth: doesn't appear to be set up :-/
[07:28] <PinTo> i cant belive this new kernel supports all my bits
[07:28] <total_assault> hey, ubuntu mount my windows parition when installing, but now I can't access it since it belongs to root and tells me i dont have permission?
[07:28] <El_Che> strokey: use nerolinux?
[07:28] <nalioth> djm62: there may be no polish users there
[07:28] <PinTo> including modem man wot ablast
[07:28] <strokey> El_Che?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> god,  if i had to guess its the size and the type of burning your doing but your right k3b is a bit slow
[07:28] <god> total_assault:  use sudo.
[07:28] <El_Che> pretty fast here
[07:28] <skapple> can someone tell me why gnomebaker might freeze in the middle of burning an audio cd?
[07:28] <PinTo> stupid guides
[07:28] <strokey> El_Che: i have 0 clue what your talking about :E
[07:29] <god> skapple:  Maybe it's not freezing and just sitting htere.
[07:29] <total_assault> god: i want to access it all the time withou sudo in order to play media files
[07:29] <El_Che> strokey: it's the windows nero burning programma, a linux version
[07:29] <nalioth> total_assault: it's a permissions issue in your fstab
[07:29] <god> total_assault:  Then enable root like me.
[07:29] <gnomefreak> there is nerolinux but i dont think its avalible through the repos
[07:29] <strokey> and why would i need that?
[07:29] <skapple> god: why would iot just be sitting there
[07:29] <nalioth> god: that is not the problem with total_assault
[07:29] <coz> hello all and happy thankgiving to thoses in the US
[07:29] <El_Che> gnomefreak: payware
[07:29] <coz> guys I have a problem
[07:29] <El_Che> you can download a trial to test it out though
[07:29] <nalioth> god: there is not a reason ever to enable the root account
[07:30] <coz>  I ran the update manager and blindly updated
[07:30] <ernstp> cool, r300 dri up and running on dapper!
[07:30] <god> nalioth:  I like to do things for no reason. I enabled mine.
[07:30] <nalioth> total_assault: join #ubuntu-offtopic and we'll help you with it
[07:30] <gnomefreak> El_Che,  even worse than finding it in repos :(
[07:30] <total_assault> nalioth: where is fstab config file located please
[07:30] <god> nalioth:  I'm always on my root.
[07:30] <ernstp> about 60 fps in supertux with opengl, not too bad
[07:30] <coz> now I have this blue xubuntu instead of ubuntu at boot
[07:30] <total_assault> nalioth: k
[07:30] <god> skapple:  My Audio CD took like 20 minutes.
[07:30] <nalioth> god: that is fine. please dont advise your habits in #ubuntu
[07:30] <coz> hwo do I change this?
[07:30] <PinTo> total assault even i know that
[07:30] <PinTo> <------second day
[07:30] <PinTo> i could help u
[07:30] <onispawn> god: ok. I see a few errors you have
[07:30] <El_Che> gnomefreak: when finding out your burner doesn't work on k3b, you don't have much choice
[07:31] <god> nalioth:  Couldn't he then just sudo cp the media files and then sudo chmod?
[07:31] <god> onispawn:  Where?
[07:31] <onispawn> god: first one you never initalized glut
[07:31] <PinTo> the blind leading the blind
[07:31] <Zugwrack> Is there a known problem with the DVD breezy for PPC? Mine won't boot using any of the usual methods regarding macintosh
[07:31] <god> onispawn:  THAT'S IT. I forgot that. Haha.
[07:31] <god> onispawn:  It' sbeen about 4 months. lol
[07:31] <El_Che> gnomefreak: it's now included in some samsung burned. legally
[07:31] <binus> btw, how to check my iptables setting? is that iptables -L but i don't see any NAT settings :( ? i just found: ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
[07:31] <nalioth> god: this is a common problem we see here all the time. it is a fstab permission issue
[07:31] <onispawn> god: second. you need to return a value
[07:31] <gnomefreak> El_Che,  ubuntu has a few burning software in its repos like gnomebaker and a few command line burners
[07:31] <nalioth> god: and no amount of sudo or su or root account will change it w/o editing the fstab
[07:31] <god> onispawn:  Yeah. the returning usually doesn't affect cpp programs. so I forget it sometimes.
[07:31] <benplaut> i woke up this morning, and my grub splash was gone, replaced by an ugly one
[07:31] <benplaut> w3rd
[07:31] <coz> gnomebaker is great!
[07:31] <onispawn> god: 3rd. you should always have a reshape callback with glut
[07:31] <PinTo> total assault its in the ubuntu guide under mount ntfs...there is a section there that involves editing Fstab
[07:32] <god> nalioth:  Mine mounted my windows drives wehn I installed. It looked like he said that.
[07:32] <god> onispawn:  I've never used a reshape.
[07:32] <coz> any way to get rid of the blue xubuntu druing boot?
[07:32] <PinTo> the unofficial ubuntu guide
[07:32] <onispawn> god: and at the end of your display callback you need to do a glutSwapBuffer(); followed by a glutPostRedisplay();
[07:32] <nalioth> god: but since you use your own practices, you never noticed the permissions, most likely
[07:32] <skapple> god: seems like it should be faster
[07:32] <PinTo> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:32] <gnomefreak> coz: the splash screen?
[07:32] <nalioth> PinTo: the ubuntuguide is wrong.
[07:33] <gnomefreak> PinTo,  that is not right
[07:33] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[07:33] <onispawn> god: reshape is good since it lets you adjust your application to the size of the window.
[07:33] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[07:33] <nalioth> PinTo: the ubuntuguide has broken hundreds of ubuntu boxes, it is old and out of date
[07:33] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[07:33] <PinTo> why not gnomefreak
[07:33] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  got there already
[07:33] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:33] <god> onispawn:  Are you sure it's glutSwapBuffer?
[07:33] <nalioth> PinTo: if you use ubuntuguide, you should not expect it to work on breezy
[07:33] <gnomefreak> PinTo,  it is not updated regulary
[07:34] <onispawn> god: glutSwapBuffers();
[07:34] <PinTo> gnome i didnt know but there is section there about fstab
[07:34] <PinTo> if he is using ubuntu
[07:34] <PinTo> sorry
[07:34] <Mystery> hello, i need some help, i've dual booted windows XP and ubuntu, in ubuntu i want to be able to read from the partitions held by windows, ubuntu seems to of already mounted the partitions but when i try to open them it gives me an error saying that i don't have permision to access them =\
[07:34] <god> onispawn:  Alright. What do I put in again for glutInit()?
[07:35] <ubuntulnx> is there any way to install mplayer without making it default player within firefox?
[07:35] <god> onispawn:  The parameters
[07:35] <keyes> hello
[07:35] <onispawn> god: glutInit(&argc, argv);
[07:35] <gnomefreak> PinTo,  weather ther is or isnt if ubuntuguide screws up his pc it looks bad on us. so keep everything nice we refer ppl to the official guide or the one in your breezy menu
[07:35] <onispawn> god: just pass what you get from main into it
[07:35] <keyes> how can I boot the Ubuntu Install CD from a floppy (old computer) ?
[07:35] <jair> alguien ke hable espaol?
[07:35] <god> onispawn:  sample: freeglut_display.c:54: glutSwapBuffers: Assertion `fgStructure.Window != ((void *)0)' failed.
[07:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[07:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:36] <onispawn> god: just a sec. I will give you a template I always use for glut
[07:36] <eedge> is 128kbps good for MP3s?
[07:36] <eedge> well, is it OK...
[07:36] <god> onispawn:  Alright. Thanks.
[07:36] <eedge> because, the setting up for lame encodes at like 320kbps.
[07:36] <coz> after update I now have blue xubuntu during boot can I get rid of this and go back to ubuntu
[07:36] <eedge> and the sizes are stupid.
[07:36] <PinTo> gnome freek where is the official guide?
[07:36] <eedge> my media player only has 20gb :P
[07:37] <eedge> lol
[07:37] <zoltan> BenC: OK - rebooted with BIOS enabled APIC with MPS table v1.4. Boot process hung and kyb was frozen - had to hit reset. Last msg was:  [4294668.946000]  PNP: PS/2 controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M]  at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12  -  I've just noticed that I can update to 2.6.12-10-686-smp  -  should I, or only after we've sorted this out?
[07:37] <PinTo> i need it
[07:37] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[07:37] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[07:37] <PinTo> !ubuntuguide
[07:37] <PinTo> didnt werk
[07:37] <TokenBad> when trying to install a file and it says no zlib found..whats that mean?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> hold on pinto
[07:37] <clast> Happy Thanksgiving!
[07:38] <coz> happy thainkgiving clast
[07:38] <zoltan> Ah shit - wrong chatgroup
[07:38] <coz> zoltan why is that?
[07:38] <benplaut> w3rdness gone \o/
[07:38] <gnomefreak> PinTo, Official Ubuntu Guide
[07:38] <gnomefreak> shoot
[07:38] <ubuntulnx> is there any way to install mplayer without making it default player within firefox?
[07:39] <coz> after blindy running update manager I now have "xubuntu" during boot can I get rid of t his?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> PinTo, http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/popularwebsites.htm go there and find the link that says official ubunt uguide
[07:39] <benplaut> btw, anyone know why mono would be taking up about 30% of my ram as the day goes on, constantly getting bigger? i only have it set to index $HOME, which isn't very big\
[07:39] <PinTo> thnk gnomefreak : )
[07:39] <benplaut> *only have beagle set...
[07:39] <gnomefreak> yw PinTo
[07:41] <zoltan> coz : cos I was chatting to BenC on kernel but forgot to switch back there after re-boot
[07:41] <coz> I see
[07:41] <TokenBad> ok I fixed the zlib now it says something about the libxml2 headers now being found...whats that mean?
[07:42] <coz> OK Guys after blindly running update manager I now have the "Xubuntu" during boot can I change this?
[07:42] <binus> how to install webmin with apt-get? apt-get install webmin didn't work
[07:42] <god> onispawn:  You still there
[07:43] <gnomefreak> coz: install gnome-art than inside gnome art you will see a splashscreen downloader download and install the one you like
[07:43] <Ck`> Asalam Alay kom Zama roryanoo awo Girl Prnganoo
[07:43] <onispawn> god: yea sorry
[07:43] <coz> No no not splash screen
[07:43] <Ck`> i need help
[07:43] <god> onispawn:  Alright.
[07:43] <coz> this is booting screen when everything is being set up
[07:43] <Ck`> how i will configure my Network ?
[07:43] <aquarius> I can't get the vncserver to start. The log says "_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2", which I think means that it's looking for a font server and not finding it. Does ubuntu use a font server by default?
[07:43] <Ck`> khar bachoo
[07:44] <gnomefreak> oh ok coz i dont think you can ive never done it
[07:44] <Ck`> za darogh na wam .. i m using Fedora Core 4 . help me in that .. da spi zamongaoo stasoo ba hm kar razi khair de ghum ma kawa ajat bako razi
[07:44] <coz> well update manager put it on therfore it can taken off so if anyone knows how plese let me know
[07:44] <onispawn> god: type /dcc get onispawn
[07:44] <Whisky_> How do I share a folder with someone? Like i want to share a folder /home/chimi/folder/ with another user
[07:44] <god> onispawn:  No such DCC Offer.
[07:45] <binus> Whisky_: from lan?
[07:45] <Ck`> yes
[07:45] <Ck`> from Lan .. da khar baheyaa from LAn
[07:46] <god> onispawn:  Why don't you just put it on pastebin?
[07:46] <onispawn> god: yea Im going to do that now
[07:46] <god> onispawn:  Alright.
[07:46] <Ck`> Whisky_,  tara vel chee kanzal ma ko .. no tasoo mata da o wayeen che tasoo pa Kanzalooo pe ghay sa ?
[07:47] <Dylan_> why is Linux secure by default?  Isn't there any more securing to be done to assure yourself?
[07:47] <binus> Ck`: what are u talking about?
[07:47] <Ck`> i m talking abt the Lan <---
[07:47] <Ck`> how do i share a folder ?
[07:47] <eedge> whats a good CD ripper apart from sound juicer?
[07:47] <yassine> hello
[07:47] <nalioth> eedge: grip
[07:47] <god> !hug
[07:47] <ubotu> ubotu gives god a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[07:47] <PinTo> can ne 1 tell me why "make-kpkg clean" doesnt work?
[07:47] <god> Yes.
[07:47] <TokenBad> ok I fixed the zlib now it says something about the libxml2 headers now being found...whats that mean?
[07:47] <eedge> would it be possible to run grip AND sound juicer at the same time?
[07:48] <yassine> what is the default root psssword?
[07:48] <PinTo> but "make clean" does
[07:48] <nalioth> TokenBad: install libxml2*-dev
[07:48] <PinTo> does it matter
[07:48] <nalioth> yassine: there is none
[07:48] <eedge> becuase I cant seem to start two instances of sound juicer...
[07:48] <Whisky_> yassine: There is no default root password.
[07:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yassine about root
[07:48] <redguy> !tell yassine about root
[07:48] <Ck`> how do i share a folder ?
[07:48] <Whisky_> You set one when installing, this is not WinD0z3
[07:48] <redguy> darn
[07:48] <Ck`> how do i share a folder ?
[07:48] <redguy> whoa, ubotu's kindof smart :-)
[07:48] <yassine> but when I leave empty it does not let me log
[07:49] <yassine> is it root or Root or ROOT ?
[07:49] <onispawn> god: http://pastebin.com/437340
[07:49] <gepatino> Ck`, you could use nfs or samba
[07:49] <gepatino> Ck`, are the client machines running only windows?
[07:50] <dark_shev> somebody can helpme with aceleration  3d in ati rx9550?
[07:50] <Pegasos989> yassine, you never log in as root
[07:50] <onispawn> god: it has some garbage output in the display function
[07:50] <nalioth> yassine: it's "sudo"
[07:50] <Pegasos989> yassine, if you need to use root use sudo in terminal
[07:50] <Dylan_> is there any more securing of linux to be done besides installing it with all the default settings turned on?
[07:50] <god> onispawn:  Alright thanks.
[07:51] <onispawn> god: have fun
[07:51] <Pegasos989> Dylan_, update ;D
[07:51] <yassine> as a very beginner I do not understand what is sudo?
[07:51] <Dylan_> Pegasos989, im being serious
[07:51] <Pegasos989> Dylan_, and maybe install firestarter or some other firewall. That is all that I have done
[07:51] <Dylan_> Pegasos989, where is a Security Settings dialog or whatever....there's Group Policy n stuff in Windows.
[07:51] <Dylan_> Pegasos989, are you a linux n00b?
[07:51] <ProN00b> i got dual head with 2 graphic cards, first geforce4ti4200 on agp and an second is a shit-old ati on pci, now if i drag a video (3d too) window from the geforce to the ati screen it becomes black or blue (video works in x11 mode through) so i think overlaying of video might be fucked, can anyone help me with that ?
[07:52] <nalioth> yassine: ubotu sent you a private message, if you read it, it will explain
[07:52] <Pegasos989> Dylan_, kind of, but I have asked here around several times that what to do and that is all that I was told to
[07:52] <yassine> yeah, thanx
[07:53] <TokenBad> one error after another
[07:53] <dark_shev> pron00b i got dual head with 2 graphic cards, first geforce4ti4200 on agp and an second is a shit-old ati on pci, now if i drag a video (3d too) window from the geforce to the ati screen it becomes black or blue (video works in x11 mode through) so i think overlaying of video might be fucked, can anyone help me with that ?<<i need help with 3d acceleration
[07:53] <slide> Anyone know what -ac does when used on X? "X :1 -ac"
[07:53] <nalioth> TokenBad: it sounds like you need more -dev pkgs
[07:54] <coz> after update manage I now have "xubuntu" for the sett up boot screen can I get ubuntu back?
[07:54] <onispawn> god: oh yea.. the window is setup so (0,0) is the bottom left corner
[07:54] <Dylan_> Seveas, besides actually installing a linux operating system and leaving all default settings on (because im new to linux) ... is there any command line tweaking or security tweaking to do to assure myself that i wont get hit with anything?
[07:55] <ProN00b> no, dark_shev i rather need help with getting video overlay working on the ati
[07:55] <graabein> excuse me, how do i check to see if ive got all dependencies covered for an app?
[07:55] <TokenBad> any nzb programs that work on ubuntu?
[07:55] <coz> after having run the update manager I now have "Xubuntu" for the boot scrren. Can I get the ubuntu boot screen back?
[07:55] <devint> Can anybody tell me why exactly ext3 never gets fragmented?
[07:55] <nalioth> TokenBad: knzb works for me
[07:56] <graabein> what is nzb?
[07:56] <TokenBad> nalioth, get it from apt-get or from website?
[07:56] <PinTo> TTFN
[07:56] <nalioth> TokenBad: it is only availabe from its homepage
[07:56] <TokenBad> ok
[07:57] <TokenBad> cool
[07:57] <nalioth> graabein: it is a file format in xml that is used with nntp
[07:57] <TokenBad> it in english to i hope?
[07:57] <graabein> alright, nntp = ?
[07:57] <Sgep> !backports
[07:57] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[07:57] <stjepan> I am buying a new computer. What do you recommend? 64bit or 32bit?
[07:58] <graabein> i looked it up on wikipedia
[07:58] <drcode> hi all
[07:58] <drcode> how I can start breezy xserver from console?
[07:58] <drcode> startx still working?
[07:59] <nalioth> TokenBad: yes, it is
[07:59] <dark_shev> proN00b, do you can helpme with acceleration 3d in ati card?
[07:59] <TokenBad> what was the program to handle bz2 files again?
[07:59] <djm62> TokenBad: bunzip
[08:00] <SPCcrow> how can i "downgrade" my gcc from 4.0.2 to 2.95.x or 3.x?
[08:00] <djm62> TokenBad: or tar -xjvf
[08:01] <ProN00b> no, dark_shev, but i think if you search for it on the ubuntu forums, there will be countless tutorials
[08:01] <nalioth> SPCcrow: on a case by case basis?
[08:02] <SPCcrow> nalioth: I am trying to install MPlayer on Ubuntu, but it requirs gcc-2.95.x or gcc-3.x
[08:02] <nasso> how can i play all movies in a folder, recursively and randomly?
[08:02] <yassine> how to run rpm files?
[08:02] <SPCcrow> nalioth: and the most updated on ubuntu is 4.0.2
[08:02] <TokenBad> bah...knzb gives error on ./configure
[08:03] <nalioth> SPCcrow: mplayer is available in the repos
[08:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SPCcrow about mplayer
[08:04] <dooglus> is there a vnc viewer app somewhere in the default breezy install?
[08:04] <TokenBad> nalioth, knzb gives error on ./configure
[08:04] <gepatino> yassine, you cant 'run' rpm files, you could install them
[08:04] <onispawn> yes the repo verion of mplayer is much eaiser than trying to compile it
[08:04] <TokenBad> think its cause I am using gnome
[08:04] <nalioth> TokenBad: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:05] <nalioth> dooglus: there is one installed by default in ubuntu
[08:05] <yassine> gepatino, how to install them please?
[08:05] <nalioth> dooglus: i believe it's calle "remote desktop'
[08:05] <dooglus> nalioth: is it available from the menus?
[08:05] <gepatino> yassine, you could use alien to convert the rpm file to a deb package
[08:05] <nasso> there has to be a program available that can make a playlist of videos adn shuffle it!!!
[08:05] <dooglus> nalioth: I've used 'remote desktop' to set up a vnc server in the past.  is it a client too?
[08:05] <nasso> damn linux! ;)
[08:05] <gepatino> yassine, then do dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:06] <yassine> gepatino, what is alien?
[08:06] <spudse> how can I mount a local directory in another local directory on the same filesystem?
[08:06] <gepatino> yassine, or to install it in one step, do: alien -i package.rpm
[08:06] <RedRose> how do i erase an alias entry?
[08:07] <gepatino> yassine, its a program
[08:07] <nalioth> dooglus: i believe so
[08:07] <gepatino> yassine, to manage packages other than debs
[08:07] <yassine> wher can I find it?
[08:07] <RedRose> how do i erase an alias entry?
[08:07] <SPCcrow> how can i tell if i am using hoary or warty?
[08:07] <yassine> bash: alien: command not found
[08:07] <dooglus> nalioth: I can't find it.  system->prefs->remote-desktop seems to be just setting up the server
[08:08] <RedRose> how do i erase an alias entry?
[08:08] <vinicius> RedRose, try "help alias"
[08:08] <nalioth> dooglus: search synaptic for vnc viewer, i believe there is one installed by default
[08:08] <dooglus> RedRose: edit .bashrc .  "alias l='ls-l'" for instance
[08:08] <dooglus> nalioth: it's installed.  but I can't find it in the menus
[08:08] <gepatino> yassine, open a console or a terminal and type it
[08:09] <yassine> I did that
[08:09] <gepatino> yassine, the comand should bi something like: sudo alien -i package.rpm
[08:09] <yassine> it says bash: alien: command not found
[08:09] <gepatino> yassine, in that case... try: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:10] <nalioth> yassine: what pkg are you trying to get?
[08:10] <yassine> realplayer
[08:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yassine about realplayer
[08:11] <bungle> hi all
[08:11] <bungle> anyone help me to play DVD's in Ubuntu 5.10
[08:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bungle about dvd
[08:12] <SPCcrow> ubotu: tell SPCcrow about dvd
[08:13] <vinicius> ubout: tell vinicius about modem
[08:13] <gepatino> ubotu, tell gepatino about beer
[08:13] <gepatino> ;)
[08:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vinicius about msg the bot
[08:14] <eatnumber1> ubotu: tell eatnumber1 about mkv
[08:15] <drcode> hi all
[08:15] <woozleboy> has anyone had any luck installing 5.1 on a sun ultra 2? The install cant detect any drives when I try it ( drives are working fine )
[08:15] <drcode> somthing happend to ubuntu servers?
[08:15] <drcode> I cant use apt-get
[08:15] <drcode> it cant connect
[08:15] <polpak> drcode: yeah, I had that problem earlier also
[08:15] <polpak> drcode: I haven't tried in a while
[08:16] <drcode> k
[08:16] <gepatino> drcode, have you tried with different repositories?
[08:16] <drcode> no
[08:16] <drcode> what to put
[08:16] <drcode> a min
[08:16] <nasso> is it possible to play directories recursively with mplayer?
[08:16] <drcode> a min
[08:16] <drcode> let me try again
[08:16] <nasso> or any other player?
[08:16] <polpak> nasso: music or movies?
[08:17] <lukins> how do i install a new font?
[08:17] <fatehaze> Is there a difference between DDR ram and DDR-I?
[08:17] <yassine> gepatino, I installed it, now how to find it? It is not in the Applications menu
[08:17] <vinicius> ubotu: tell vinicius about modem
[08:18] <nalioth> vinicius: you need to be registered, then you can talk to ubotu via /msg
[08:19] <TheMuffenMann> whats up people
[08:19] <polpak> !font install
[08:19] <ubotu> hmm... font install is mkdir /usr/local/share/fonts, drop the fonts in there.  cd /usr/local/share/fonts, then "mkttfdir" and "mkfontdir", then add a FontPath entry to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
[08:19] <pirx> hi! when i want to apt-insall certain packages ubuntu wants to read them from the CD. how do i make it always install from the net?
[08:19] <hav0k> i was trying to set up java like the wiki said, but now, firefox won't even run.
[08:20] <polpak> pirx: comment the cd repo in /etc/apt/sources.lisg
[08:20] <ingvildr> pirx remove the cd entry from synaptic
[08:20] <polpak> pirx: err sources.list
[08:20] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to get the windows key to work as a modifier key in gnome??
[08:20] <polpak> hav0k: you must have done something wrong ;p
[08:20] <pirx> ingvildr: ah thanks! i looked there before but missed that it was the very first line:)
[08:21] <hav0k> polpak, i did exactly what the wiki said
[08:21] <MaCa> Anyone knows what are the list of possible values on can use to preesed kbdconfig during a live-cd initialization?
[08:21] <hav0k> and now ive gone back and tried to undo it, but that didnt work either
[08:21] <TheMuffenMann> anyone else here use fluxbox?
[08:21] <nickrud> burner, I use gconf to assign actions to the start key combos, is that what you're after?
[08:21] <faisal> hello i need help about Real Player Installation RPM Package in Ubuntu Linux
[08:21] <faisal> plz anyone can help me
[08:21] <yassine> where can I find installed programs?
[08:22] <hav0k> faisal, you downloaded a .rpm file?
[08:22] <faisal> i tying several times to run RPM package in ubuntu but failed it will opened in archieve manager
[08:22] <polpak> !realplayer
[08:22] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:22] <ingvildr> yassine: in synaptic
[08:22] <yassine> what is the equivalent of "Program Files"?
[08:22] <faisal> yes i downloaded xmms.rpm
[08:22] <nickrud> yassine, nothing :)
[08:22] <TheMuffenMann> archive manager doesnt support .rpm format
[08:22] <nalioth> yassine: there is no equivalent
[08:22] <hav0k> faisal, you have to apt-get install alien and change it to .deb
[08:22] <faisal> then how i will run it
[08:22] <nalioth> TheMuffenMann: rpm is not an archive. waht pkg are you wanting?
[08:23] <yassine> so how can I find my programs
[08:23] <gepatino> yassine, alien is a command line tool
[08:23] <TheMuffenMann> i dont want anything, i was telling faisal
[08:23] <faisal> i am new to linux plz can you tell me in detail
[08:23] <nalioth> yassine: in the applications menu
[08:23] <polpak> yassine: installed programs can appear in many different parts of your file system. Typically the binary files will be either under /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin
[08:23] <TheMuffenMann> i know its not an archive
[08:23] <yassine> I installed realplayer, where it is?
[08:23] <gepatino> yassine, command line programs usually don't appear on the applications menu
[08:23] <nickrud> yassine, it should be in the menu, if it installed correctly
[08:23] <polpak> yassine: how did you install it?
[08:23] <faisal> xmms-1.2.10-1.i386.rpm --------------------------------- how to install it
[08:23] <TheMuffenMann> faisal
[08:23] <nalioth> faisal: xmms is available in the repos, use synaptic to install it  System > admin > synaptic
[08:23] <TheMuffenMann> if you want xmms,
[08:23] <nickrud> faisal, you can apt-get install xmms
[08:23] <bur[n] er> nickrud: i'm having problem doing that because when i hit the window key... it goes to "super_L" right away without allowing a key with it
[08:23] <TheMuffenMann> just do
[08:24] <gepatino> yassine, you were talking about realplayer.... sorry i thought it was about alien
[08:24] <TheMuffenMann> sudo apt-get install xmms
[08:24] <polpak> !xmms
[08:24] <ubotu> methinks xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[08:24] <yassine> sudo alien -i RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm
[08:24] <hav0k> yeah, that too
[08:24] <gepatino> yassine, well... open a terminal and type realplayer
[08:24] <faisal> hi
[08:24] <yassine> doesn't work
[08:25] <TheMuffenMann> when i used gnome, i had to use the eSound plugin for XMMS, but now that i use fluxbox, i have to use OSS for xmms
[08:25] <faisal> yes
[08:25] <nickrud> bur[n] er, I've seen that in the keyboard shortcuts pref; you need to use gconf-editor, and go to /apps/metacity. Type <Super> where you want the super key to be used
[08:25] <bur[n] er> nickrud: i'm usign a generic 104-key PC layout as well :\
[08:25] <ratto> where can i find a list of avaliable apt packages
[08:25] <yassine> says bash: realplayer: command not found
[08:25] <bur[n] er> nickrud: that doesn't work if the win key isn't a modifier :\  nevermind
[08:25] <TheMuffenMann> try the ubuntu universe
[08:25] <faisal> Ok guys , tell me only one thing how to play multimedia file sin ubuntu
[08:25] <TheMuffenMann> do a 'sudo apt-get update' first though
[08:25] <nickrud> bur[n] er, it works, I've been doing it for a long time
[08:25] <bur[n] er> nickrud: but your winkey is a modifier I'm sure :P
[08:25] <polpak> faisal: movies you use totem, music use rythembox
[08:25] <nalioth> ratto: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <polpak> faisal: should be undere "Applications->Sound& Video"
[08:26] <bur[n] er> nickrud: i can do it on my other PC just fine, just not on this one... even if I edit gconf-editor as you suggest
[08:26] <fatehaze> How could are the windows emulators, speed wise?
[08:26] <polpak> faisal: If you want to play MP3 files please read the restricted formats Wiki
[08:26] <faisal> totem is not playing any thing even mp3 files
[08:26] <RedRose> if i belong to 2 groups, which do i have premissions over ?
[08:27] <polpak> faisal: totem generally is for movies
[08:27] <RedRose> jcarter@wargames$ groups
[08:27] <RedRose> employees wheel
[08:27] <faisal> but it playing
[08:27] <fatehaze> Say I'm looking to run an older game like Half-Life on pretty decent hardware, what percentage of normal framerate could I expect?
[08:27] <faisal> not
[08:27] <nickrud> bur[n] er, take a look at prefs-keyboard; under Layout options, you'll find Super mapped to Win key (default). Check that if needed
[08:27] <TheMuffenMann> use XMMS for music, and Totem for movies
[08:27] <hav0k> hmm, ive never had luck with totem
[08:27] <polpak> RedRose : you have group permissions for either
[08:27] <bur[n] er> nickrud: i tried that too :\  oh well
[08:27] <hav0k> totem-xine i think
[08:27] <fatehaze> Anywhere near 100%?
[08:27] <TheMuffenMann> yeh..i had to fuck with some shit to get it to work, but then i reformatted so that got lost
[08:27] <nickrud> bur[n] er, try swapping keyboards :)
[08:28] <eatnumber1> i like amaroK for music
[08:28] <TheMuffenMann> i dont really watch movies on my machine anyways
[08:28] <polpak> fatehaze: if you are using an Nvidia card, and have the proper 3d drivers loaded the performance is equivalent if you are using wine
[08:28] <NaTeek> hallo
[08:28] <vinicius> My modem could not be detected by Ubuntu Hoary or Breezy just after instalation. I read some resources that tells to use setserial. However I don't know the UART of my modem. Can anyone help me?
[08:28] <TheMuffenMann> and i use gtk-gnutella for p2p
[08:28] <polpak> fatehaze: But wine is not an emulator
[08:28] <linuxboy> My gnomebaker doesn't burn audio cds. I copy from one cd to another, it reads the first. Opens the tray, closes the tray and fails
[08:29] <TheMuffenMann> gnomebaker? what the fuck..thats just about the gayest name for a piece of software i have ever heard
[08:29] <polpak> TheMuffenMann: I use Rhythmbox for music
[08:29] <yassine> ok, another linux distribution that is NOT for human beings :(
[08:29] <TheMuffenMann> sounds like one of those easy box ovens
[08:29] <TheMuffenMann> easy bake*
[08:29] <polpak> yassine: ?
[08:29] <Jemt> Greetings. Does 'fdisk' display ALL partition types? My HDD contains an IBM Recovery Partition and it is not listed - And I'm not sure whether it is because I have removed it or it is just not listed
[08:29] <regeya> what's not for human beings, yassine?
[08:30] <yassine> I can't even know where software are installed
[08:30] <fatehaze> Really?  It's that good?
[08:30] <polpak> yassine: you installed it via RPM
[08:30] <fatehaze> What about modern games, such as HL2?
[08:30] <yassine> sudo alien -i RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm
[08:30] <nalioth> TheMuffenMann: please respect us with your language choices
[08:30] <HappyFool> Jemt: i think it should display everything on a harddrive
[08:30] <linuxboy> TheMuffenMann: almost as bad as your nick :P
[08:30] <RedRose> polpak:ok, because in groups, i'm under wheel, which is group 0... does that mean i have semi-root permissions?
[08:30] <benplaut> btw, anyone know why mono would be taking up about 30% of my ram as the day goes on, constantly getting bigger? i only have beagle set to index $HOME, which isn't very big\
[08:30] <TheMuffenMann> heh, fuck off noob
[08:30] <Jemt> HappyFool: Not to good :)
[08:30] <vinicius> yassine, do you need to know where the software are installed?
[08:31] <Jemt> HappyFool: I just lost my recovery partition then. Oh well - it only contained Windows :)
[08:31] <regeya> yassine: ?
[08:31] <eatnumber1> guys, whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when installing packages I get some weird error
[08:31] <yassine> yes
[08:31] <nalioth> yassine: now "sudo dpkg -i filennem_of_converted_realplayer.deb
[08:31] <yassine> to run them
[08:31] <yassine> to make links on the desktop
[08:31] <HappyFool> Jemt: you must use sudo with it
[08:31] <regeya> yassine: why?
[08:31] <yassine> ...
[08:31] <polpak> yassine: sudo alien -ql RealPlayer10GOLD
[08:31] <HappyFool> Jemt: as in, 'sudo fdisk -l'
[08:31] <nalioth> yassine: you need to isntall the deb pkg first
[08:31] <regeya> hoboy.
[08:31] <nalioth> polpak: yassine hasnt installed the deb alian made
[08:31] <Jemt> HappyFool: I'm running as root :)
[08:31] <HappyFool> Jemt: ah
[08:31] <regeya> yassine: "for human beings" != "you don't have to learn anything"
[08:31] <skullb0x> Just installed ubuntu, love it so far, one thing.. i have an NTFS SATA Drive in this box as well, how do i mount it
[08:31] <eatnumber1> its like a grey screen with text that fills up the screen
[08:31] <RedRose> polpak:ok, because in groups, i'm under wheel, which is group 0... does that mean i have semi-root permissions?
[08:32] <yuri> hello fellow ubuntuers. I need some help.
[08:32] <HappyFool> Jemt: then it should be showing all the partitions; guess you're out of luck
[08:32] <Jemt> HappyFool: Well, thanks, mate :)
[08:32] <hav0k> skullb0x, ive got the same problem
[08:32] <regeya> yassine: even Windows and OS X require *some* learing
[08:32] <yassine> I know
[08:32] <skullb0x> would it be the same as mounting an IDE ?
[08:32] <hav0k> yuri, what?
[08:32] <eatnumber1> it says things like [   505.575220]  CR2: 000000002a3ab170
[08:32] <TheMuffenMann> quit askin questions and go read up on it fuck
[08:33] <regeya> TheMuffenMann:
[08:33] <yuri> I am trying to access a shared folder on another computer running windows; when i go into networking i can see "windows network" but not the shared folder. I did not have this prob with 5.04
[08:33] <RedRose> TheMuffenMann:Watch You Language... Read The Rules...
[08:33] <yassine> TheMuffenMann, what is this irc channel for then?
[08:33] <eatnumber1> guys, whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when installing packages I get some weird error
[08:33] <regeya> TheMuffenMann: if you can't be a decent human being, please go away.
[08:33] <eatnumber1> its like a grey screen with text that fills up the screen
[08:33] <eatnumber1> it says things like [   505.575220]  CR2: 000000002a3ab170
[08:33] <yassine> and what are you doing here
[08:33] <regeya> hooray
[08:34] <regeya> yassine: TheMuffenMann is gone. :-)
[08:34] <eatnumber1> any ideas?
[08:34] <faisal> is there anybody can help me to install .rpm in ubuntu plzzzzzzzzzzzzz ????????????????????????/
[08:34] <polpak> yassine: don't bother with the rpm. just follow the wiki
[08:35] <faisal> WIKI WILL WHAT GUIDE ME
[08:35] <polpak> yassine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b
[08:35] <regeya> ah
[08:35] <hav0k> yuri, i do not know.  it works for me when i go under places>network servers.   i see the computers on the network and can look in each of their shared collections
[08:35] <HappyFool> faisal: please don't shout
[08:35] <polpak> faisal: what rpm?
[08:35] <HappyFool> !tell faisal about alien
[08:35] <mjk64> Mornin (or whatever your time of the day is :-)
[08:35] <yuri> its just blank inside when i open it... I cannot see the other comp
[08:35] <hav0k> hmmm
[08:36] <faisal> me boring with linux
[08:36] <mjk64> A stupid question: Where can I find the Ubuntu 5.10 installation manual?
[08:36] <Jemt> mjk64: Try www.ubuntulinux.com
[08:36] <hav0k> yuri, it might have something to do with the way you set up the network...
[08:36] <polpak> mjk64: the getting started guide?
[08:36] <eatnumber1> anyone?
[08:36] <polpak> faisal: ?
[08:36] <eatnumber1> any help?
[08:36] <HappyFool> !tell mjk64 about install
[08:36] <regeya> 1:30pm on thanksgiving day (yes, I'm a USian)
[08:36] <Jemt> ^^
[08:36] <polpak> eatnumber1: what was the question?
[08:36] <bungle> hi all
[08:36] <yuri> ill play around with it. im sure the problem is my own error.
[08:36] <eatnumber1> polpak, whenever I install ubuntu, after reboot when installing packages I get some weird error
[08:37] <eatnumber1> polpak: its like a grey screen with text that fills up the screen
[08:37] <mjk64> Jemt: Hmmm ... looks like www.ubuntulinux.org - where I have searchd hi and lo for it, to no avail. :-/
[08:37] <regeya> stupid mid-week holiday; nobody in my family is off today, so I'm fortifying my breezy machine with enhanced versions of media libs
[08:37] <eatnumber1> polpak: it says things like [   505.575220]  CR2: 000000002a3ab170
[08:37] <bungle> my ubuntu says it it doesnt recognise the archive type for .deb files?
[08:37] <hav0k> yuri, probably
[08:37] <mjk64> A-Haaa!
[08:37] <Jemt> mjk64: Give me a sec - I'll find it for you
[08:37] <polpak> eatnumber1: sounds like a bad install disk? I haven't seen that before
[08:37] <mjk64> HappyFool: Thanks!
[08:37] <mjk64> Jemt: Got it! HappyFool told me via ubotu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[08:37] <HappyFool> bungle: what command is that?
[08:37] <nalioth> bungle: you use dpkg on deb files. what are you wanting to do?
[08:38] <tonio_> how would you delete a file that is read only
[08:38] <Jemt> mjk64: Great. Enjoy :)
[08:38] <tonio_> or locked
[08:38] <eatnumber1> polpak: i checked the disc, and i even burned another at 2x... same thing
[08:38] <HappyFool> err, what command gives that error, i meant
[08:38] <Jemt> tonio_: sudo rm file
[08:38] <hav0k> eatnumber1, maybe you could look around the special install menu... maybe that has something to do with it.  i dont know
[08:38] <tonio_> thanks
[08:38] <bungle> wanting to play dvd and trying to install the libraries
[08:38] <benplaut> disk manager correctly reports that /home is a 13gb partition, and says that it has 5.0gb free, however when i sudo nautilus over to home and rt+click, properties, it says only 2.7gb are used... huh?!
[08:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bungle about dvd
[08:38] <mjk64> HappyFool: Now where the fsck can one find the installation manual from the many web pages? It's a mystery to me %-)
[08:38] <yassine> polpak, it says :dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/local': directory is not empty
[08:38] <mjk64> Jemt: =)
[08:38] <nalioth> yassine: stop where you are
[08:38] <HappyFool> mjk64: that's a bit of a catch-all page, i believe
[08:38] <polpak> yassine: ????
[08:38] <nalioth> yassine: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:39] <onispawn> haha.. you dont want to delete that directory
[08:39] <eatnumber1> havok: i did, and i tried installing it with a different kernel version
[08:39] <tonio_> how would i delete a directory
[08:39] <onispawn> that is really bad
[08:39] <tonio_> that has been locked
[08:39] <yassine> this : sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[08:39] <eatnumber1> havok: it diddent crash, but it froze at 85%
[08:39] <polpak> tonio_: If you are certain you want to.. rm -r directory
[08:39] <HappyFool> tonio_: what directory is it?
[08:39] <hav0k> eatnumber1, ohh, ive actually heard of other people running into this same problem... i think on the message boards maybe
[08:40] <mjk64> HappyFool: Yes, seems so ... I had no problem finding the installation manual for Debian and thought it would be as easy with Ubuntu ...
[08:40] <HappyFool> mjk64: how's Installation/386 look to you?
[08:40] <yassine> I am trying to follow the wiki to install realplayer
[08:40] <Sgep> Bye all; disconnecting for Thanksgiving
[08:40] <HappyFool> mjk64: oh, that manual
[08:40] <rsa> Is there a protocol here to ask for help, or do I just jump in?
[08:40] <hav0k> eatnumber1, so you might want to look around there
[08:40] <HappyFool> um
[08:40] <mjk64> HappyFool: Checking it ...
[08:40] <yassine> and I got that message
[08:40] <bungle> i have the library file how do i use it?
[08:40] <PatrikJohansson> How can i change the owner a a folder???
[08:40] <eatnumber1> hav0k: ok, thx
[08:40] <topyli> bungle: to play dvds on linux, you have to crack them first. for this, there is a libdvdcss library. see the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki
[08:40] <tonio_> it is just a folder that i accidently made while installing something
[08:40] <tonio_> now i cant delete it
[08:40] <topyli> !tell bungle about restricted
[08:41] <polpak> tonio_: is it not owned by you?
[08:41] <mjk64> HappyFool: Oh ... the manual is ... err ... well ... a *little* short. :-}
[08:41] <tonio_> Cannot move "/home/tonio...rapper-1.5" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder
[08:41] <mjk64> Okay, so I have to ask here, since it's not in the manual: What the fsck does "Configure a multiseat system" mean? Multi-user?
[08:41] <tonio_> that is what it says
[08:41] <yuri> blah. stupid me. I put the wrong domain in. network works fine now
[08:42] <mrtwister> hi.. is mysql5 available in any ports (backports) for 5.10?
[08:42] <rsa> Does anyone in here know why I can't add more than 4 languages to my keyboard layout?
[08:42] <bur[n] er> nickrud: i lied... the gconf-editing does work for <super> but... I still can't get the "open home directory" as it doesn't seem to be in gconf-editor... any ideas?
[08:42] <mjk64> PatrikJohansson: chown <owner> <folder>
[08:42] <yassine> Help please
[08:42] <polpak> yassine: I believe that's just a warning, not an error
[08:42] <polpak> yassine: though I'm not sure why you would've gotten it
[08:42] <ravensa> anybody know how to get multichannel sound working on SB live card in Xmms?
[08:43] <HappyFool> tonio_: maybe use Applications -> System tools -> Run as different user, and run 'nautilus' as root
[08:43] <polpak> HappyFool: he just left =p
[08:43] <HappyFool> mjk64: at a guess, your guess is correct
[08:43] <nickrud> bur[n] er, a sec, I've got that mapped somewhere I think
[08:43] <HappyFool> mjk64: you can always add users later
[08:43] <HappyFool> polpak: doh!
[08:44] <mjk64> HappyFool: Oh, I love guessing %-) (After all, I chose "expert", so I'm expected to know what a multiseat system is :-}
[08:44] <yassine> ah, it is intalled, but I'd like to add it to the menu
[08:44] <yassine> or on the desktop
[08:44] <topyli> why oh why do people still use xmms, this i don't understand. i used to like it 7 or 8 years ago
[08:44] <nalioth> yassine: check your menu, it may already be there
[08:44] <HappyFool> mjk64: ah ;)
[08:44] <ravensa> what should I use then?
[08:44] <nalioth> yassine: if it isnt, right click on the sound and video menu and add it
[08:45] <iveqy> topyli: so what do you prefer instead?
[08:45] <krypto_> hav0k, any luck mounting the other SATA drive?E
[08:45] <ravensa> I'm used to winamp...
[08:45] <Tips> yupi yai yiii
[08:45] <nickrud> bur[n] er, I must have used the keyboard preference for that, it's mapped to a multimedia key.
[08:45] <iveqy> ravensa: sounds like xmms is best for u if u r used to winamp
[08:45] <topyli> ravensa: i like rhythmbox. if you want an xmms kind of basic player, i would use beep-media-player or maybe muine
[08:46] <rsa> How may I receive assistance?
[08:46] <krypto_> whats a p2p program that uses the same network as bearshare for Linux?
[08:46] <mjk64> HappyFool: Googling for this sentence revealed package description for multiseat-udeb, which says: "This udeb does base configuration for a multiseat (multiple simultaneous users) system."
[08:46] <mossy> hi
[08:46] <polpak> yassine: applications->system tools->application menu editor
[08:46] <Tips> hey dudes, how about a "music creation" distribution? anyone knows?
[08:46] <HappyFool> mjk64: hmm
[08:46] <topyli> krypto_: gtk-gnutella
[08:46] <veki> where I can find codecs for video playback for Ubuntu Hoary for powerpc?
[08:46] <mossy> how do i remove kdm so i can use the standard x one?
[08:46] <HappyFool> mjk64: some sort of thin-client thing
[08:47] <nalioth> rsa: ask a question
[08:47] <yassine> ok, I got it, thank you all :)
[08:47] <ravensa> I'm willing to try new stuff... wil the 5.1 audio work in rythmbox?
[08:47] <polpak> rsa: ask your question .. someone will answer
[08:47] <mossy> how do i remove kdm so i can use the standard x one?
[08:47] <bungle> cant open .deb files
[08:47] <yassine> It was a difficult beginning :)
[08:47] <mjk64> HappyFool: Sheesh, 246 Google hits for "multiseat system" vs. 58,300 hits for "multiuser system". I guess "multiseat" is African. %-)
[08:47] <HappyFool> mjk64: err, that was supposed to be a question
[08:47] <rsa> How do I add more than 4 languages to my keyboard layout?
[08:47] <polpak> yassine: glad to help
[08:47] <Tips> hey ravensa do you create music with some distribution of linux?
[08:47] <yuri> Network Printing Q: there is a printer attached to a win2k comp on my network. When I go into sys>admin>Printing>add Network printer it lets me choose the other comp but there is nothing under the "printers"
[08:47] <topyli> mossy: apt-get install xdm, and apt-get remove kdm
[08:47] <nickrud> bur[n] er, it's under /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/keybindings
[08:47] <mossy> thx
[08:47] <SPCcrow> is there a command with apt-get that will install all the suggested packages as well?
[08:47] <polpak> yassine: you should read the getting started guide
[08:48] <nalioth> SPCcrow: use aptitude instead of apt-get
[08:48] <yassine> yes
[08:48] <rsa> After I add the fourth language, the Add button goes dim
[08:48] <mossy> coudlnt find xdm
[08:48] <mossy> is what is says
[08:49] <nalioth> !info xdm
[08:49] <ubotu> xdm: (X client - xdm), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.99.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 556 kB
[08:49] <ravensa> I just want the front and back channels playing
[08:49] <nalioth> mossy: enable your universe and multiverse repos
[08:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mossy about repos
[08:50] <polpak> yuri: first make sure your firewall is allowing traffic from your lan
[08:50] <mossy> ok
[08:50] <mossy> will try
[08:50] <mossy> i got kubuntu
[08:50] <bungle> how do i open a .deb file please?
[08:50] <polpak> yuri: you need to allow certain ports in order to browse the network
[08:51] <mossy> sorry wrong window
[08:51] <polpak> bungle: you generally don't
[08:51] <polpak> bungle: you install it
[08:51] <yuri> i can already browse the network, i just fixed that prob
[08:51] <bungle> how polpak?
[08:51] <polpak> bungle: a deb file is a package for installing software
[08:51] <bungle> says archive type is not supported
[08:51] <polpak> bungle: you don't open it via the archive manager
[08:51] <polpak> bungle: you use dpkg
[08:51] <nalioth> bungle: what are you trying to install? there is nothing you should be using a deb for to get dvd working
[08:51] <szronik> I can't do a apt-get install build-essential because of package dependencies, what gives?
[08:52] <bungle> how?
[08:52] <aftertaf> bungle dpkg -i installs it
[08:52] <aftertaf> szronik: whats the error?
[08:52] <nalioth> aftertaf: polpak: hold up. something makes no sense with bungle
[08:52] <bungle> the libdvdcss file has downloaded as a .deb file
[08:52] <[DK] A-Torsten> I have a c and a d drive... Ive have deletede all on my d... Is it posible for me to installe ubuntu on this, or will it be installed with windows on c ?
[08:52] <faisal> hi
[08:52] <nalioth> bungle: then you missed something
[08:52] <bungle> like what?
[08:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bungle about libdvdcss2
[08:52] <Count> how do I have a windows Driver CD to work on Ubuntu?
[08:52] <aftertaf> Count: are you sure you need to?
[08:52] <szronik> aftertaf: The following packages have unmet dependencies: ...libc6-dev...g++...make...dpkg-dev
[08:53] <shiba> hi
[08:53] <aftertaf> szronik: have you enabled universe, or messed with sources.list?
[08:53] <topyli> bungle: don't download stuff from the web and try to install it like windows users. just use apt-get
[08:53] <polpak> yuri: did you choose a windows printer SMB ?
[08:53] <szronik> aftertaf: sources.list - is this for repositories? If so, yes. I don't know what universe is.
[08:54] <yuri> yes I did
[08:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell szronik about repos
[08:54] <mcjerry> i tried updating to latest kernel from vanilla source. I have two sata hard drives, sda and sdb, the cd install sees both drives and can access both drives, after compiling and installing new kernel, i can see both drive, but cannot access the 2nd drive. What is wrong?
[08:54] <krypto_> anyone know how to mount a SATA drive containig a windows partition on it?
[08:54] <krypto_> its NTFS
[08:54] <yuri> under "Host" it gives me an option to choose the right comp. after i select it, there is nothing under the "printer" tab
[08:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell krypto_ about ntfs
[08:55] <aftertaf> thx nalioth  ;)
[08:55] <bungle> how do i use apt get?
[08:55] <polpak> yuri: then my guess is that your user isn't allowed access to the printer
[08:55] <infralite> apt-get install foobar
[08:55] <infralite> don't forget to sudo!
[08:55] <nubuntu> every time i start up VLC I get the little alert "cannot set locale to "." Quite annoying, and it should be easy to remove, but I cant find anything
[08:55] <mcjerry> krypto_: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions
[08:55] <aftertaf> bungle: you can type man apt,
[08:55] <bungle> ok thanks infralite
[08:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bungle about synaptic
[08:56] <topyli> bungle: oh my. please read some documentation. like system -> help
[08:56] <aftertaf> !tell bungle about apt
[08:56] <yuri> but its the administrator login of that comp...
[08:56] <aftertaf> bungle: and read those links from us (from ubotu...)
[08:56] <mcjerry> krypto_ the 5.10 starter guide howto will help you
[08:56] <bungle> I am having no luck sorry guys
[08:56] <rsa> Question: How can I add more than 4 languages to keyboard layout?
[08:56] <bungle> I only want to play a dvd :-)
[08:57] <bungle> why is it so difficult?
[08:57] <polpak> bungle: well you need to learn to install programs
[08:57] <bungle> I know
[08:57] <topyli> bungle: i see what you mean. but you need to learn how to install stuff in ubuntu
[08:57] <polpak> bungle: read the getting started guide
[08:57] <szronik> bungle: Well, I'm trying to get my DVD player to work with my Graphics card in order to watch a DVD :P
[08:57] <nalioth> bungle: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:57] <polpak> bungle: it will help
[08:57] <szronik> bungle: Regular DVD player, not computer.
[08:57] <orrala> hello ppl
[08:57] <aftertaf> bungle: join like nalioth said, he'll help you with less clutter ;)
[08:57] <FireRabbit> Does anyone remember if the "restricted" section is enabled by default on Breezy or not?
[08:58] <polpak> FireRabbit: I don't think it is
[08:58] <polpak> FireRabbit: you have to enable it
[08:58] <FireRabbit> ok, thanks
[08:58] <mossy> err
[08:58] <mossy> it didnt work
[08:59] <polpak> mossy: ??
[08:59] <orrala> anybody can help me with mono?
[08:59] <sklav> what up
[08:59] <sklav> ;)
[08:59] <mossy> change from kdm to x one
[08:59] <rsa> can someone help me install languages onto my keyboard?
[08:59] <topyli> mossy: did you install xdm and uninstall kdm?
[08:59] <bigo> spanish  channel ???
[08:59] <mossy> yes
[09:00] <orrala> sometimes mono turns off suddenly (sorry about my english)
[09:00] <sieste> hello
[09:00] <mossy> kdm still installed
[09:00] <mossy> tho
[09:00] <mcjerry> can someone help me with a kernel compile issue?
[09:00] <nickrud> mossy, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm , and select xdm
[09:00] <topyli> mossy: can't be if you uninstalled it. it must still be running in memory. just kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:00] <orrala> for ex. when i try to import a visualNET project
[09:00] <sieste> i have a canon pixma MP110 but i don't know to mahe it working. some body can help me
[09:01] <mossy> ok
[09:01] <mossy> bbiab
[09:01] <mossy> :P
[09:01] <benplaut> what is ~/.local?
[09:01] <RedRose> is there any way for ubuntu to interact with my cell phone(Motorola)?
[09:02] <nickrud> benplaut, it's where gnome (and kde?) keeps your custom menu info
[09:02] <topyli> benplaut: ~ means your home directory. so ~/.local is a hidden file (see the dot?) in your home dir
[09:02] <RedRose> is there any way for ubuntu to interact with my cell phone(Motorola)?
[09:02] <aftertaf> Reddoes it have bluetooth?
[09:03] <benplaut> thanks nickrud
[09:03] <rsa> can someone help me install languages onto my keyboard?
[09:03] <RedRose> nope, it's a USB Cord
[09:03] <b3nw> is it possible to make it so my screen doesn't go black every 3 mins when on battery power?, i have xscreensavor settings all set to off.
[09:03] <nickrud> benplaut, brain fart here: custom mime-type <---> application relations, rather
[09:03] <aftertaf> b3nw: check bios settings too.
[09:03] <b3nw> mmm
[09:03] <soundray> rsa, do you mean international layouts?
[09:03] <aftertaf> RedRose: no idea then
[09:03] <aftertaf> try apt-cache search motorola
[09:03] <nubuntu> every time i start up VLC I get the little alert "cannot set locale to "." Quite annoying, and it should be easy to remove, but I cant find anything
[09:03] <topyli> RedRose: bluetooth and infrared are your best bets. almost no phone works with their proprietary cable connections
[09:03] <Tha_Hill> maybe tru infrared
[09:04] <rsa> soundray, yes
[09:04] <soundray> rsa, are you running Gnome?
[09:04] <Weng> I'm setting up an ubuntu deployment server on an internet-isolated network, and I'd like to have access to the entire package repository. First, how the hell big is it, and second, what's the easiest way to grab the whole damned thing?
[09:04] <rsa> soundray, yes
[09:04] <aftertaf> apt-proxy i believe
[09:04] <rsa> soundray, I am able to add 3 in addition to English, but I need more
[09:05] <benplaut> stop it!
[09:05] <benplaut> stop it, i say!
[09:05] <benplaut> i've deleted you 4 times, now go away!
[09:05] <Weng> This server is losing it's damn mind, it's already loading 2 gigs of stuff into RAM on every boot, and if I can fit it, the damned package repository is next.
[09:06] <soundray> rsa, which config tool are you using?
[09:06] <topyli> benplaut: what are you talking about? if there are users who bother you, just /ignore them
[09:06] <benplaut> topyli: no, a 3gb file :P
[09:06] <topyli> heh
[09:06] <rsa> soundray, System->Preferences->Keyboard
[09:06] <benplaut> ...and there are about four .Trashes to deleted it from :/
[09:07] <szronik> I get the following error when trying a repository fix: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_1%3a0.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl', which is also in package libofx0c102
[09:07] <Zugwrack> Hey everyone...where do I set the default terminal window width? I looked under the profile settings and made changes to color, etc. but didn't see an option to set term width
[09:07] <krypto_> im ubuntu i read the sites for mounting NTFS volumes.. Except i get an error saying mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[09:07] <soundray> rsa, What happens if you try and add more than three?
[09:07] <cocox> hi guys, im trying to format a floppy disk by shell scripts... i make a "sudo mkfs /media/floppy0" everything seems to be allright but when i try to mount the disk using "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" gives me an error ... by the way my floppy disk is new.. plz help
[09:07] <ajmitch_> szronik: yes, known problem in universe for hoary->breezy :(
[09:07] <topyli> Zugwrack: does apt-get -f install work?
[09:07] <rsa> soundray, the Add button dims
[09:07] <ajmitch_> szronik: you can remove it, upgrade, and then reinstall gnucash
[09:08] <aftertaf> szronik: youll need to type this: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3_all.deb
[09:08] <mossy> err
[09:08] <mossy> stil no luck
[09:08] <mossy> installed xdm
[09:08] <mossy> removed kdm
[09:08] <Zugwrack> topyli: Huh? Fresh install..just trying to adjust the terminal window width?
[09:08] <mossy> xdm did nothing
[09:08] <Enquest> Ok I'm trying to play a file form vrtnieuws.be http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/nieuws/overzicht/nnII_nieuws_politiek/index.shtml but firefox or mplayer crashes after 5 seconds it plays... Can somebody check if he has this too?
[09:09] <aftertaf> szronik: you get that?
[09:09] <szronik> aftertaf: Trying it now...
[09:09] <linuxboy> My gnomebaker doesn't burn audio cds. I copy from one cd to another, it reads the first. Opens the tray, closes the tray and fails...
[09:09] <aftertaf> hehe ok
[09:09] <topyli> Zugwrack: sorry, i was talking to somebody else, my tab completion must have failed me :)
[09:09] <Zugwrack> topyli: NP...
[09:09] <aftertaf> szronik: you gone to dapper?
[09:10] <Weng> oh, sweet. You can connect to the mirrors with FTP :P
[09:10] <soundray> rsa, I can reproduce it, but I don't know why that happens.
[09:10] <aftertaf> Weng: oh yeah :)
[09:10] <Zugwrack> topyli: Do you have a quick reply to my query?
[09:10] <rsa> soundray, I see, should I report this as a bug of some sort?
[09:10] <topyli> Zugwrack: normally though, you can pass something like --width and --height commands to all X programs
[09:10] <soundray> rsa, do you have just one physical keyboard?
[09:10] <Weng> It's gonna be a PITA to sync this system back up to the current release
[09:10] <rsa> soundray, yes
[09:10] <szronik> aftertaf: dapper?
[09:10] <rsa> soundray, its a laptop kezboard
[09:10] <mossy> soooo whgy didnt xdm work?
[09:10] <Weng> Since we don't have internet access anywhere on the production floor (security shit)
[09:10] <mossy> what have i missed?
[09:10] <rsa> keyboard
[09:11] <Zugwrack> topyli: Ok thanks..will look at the shortcut icon settings..thanks!
[09:11] <Enquest> and?
[09:11] <szronik> aftertaf: It didn't work, I think that gnucash is the culprit.
[09:11] <nick_> off topic: what is bluetooth?
[09:11] <soundray> rsa, is the base layout US?
[09:11] <sdog> when trying to log in I get stuck on nautilius .. , looks liks .. where do I disable that ?
[09:11] <Zugwrack> clear
[09:11] <topyli> Zugwrack: no, my irc client (like yours probably)  just have tab completion so i don't have to write complete weird nicks :)
[09:11] <ajmitch_> aftertaf: szronik did say it was libofx2, not firefox :)
[09:11] <FireRabbit> Okay, I redid this page and it's actually accurate now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:11] <Weng> Meh, the whole system is going on a cart anyway, I'll just wheel it into the elevator and plug into the public network jacks in the lobby.
[09:11] <aftertaf> szronik: really? weird. /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3_all.deb
[09:11] <cocox> hi guys, im trying to format a floppy disk by shell scripts... i make a "sudo mkfs /media/floppy0" everything seems to be allright but when i try to mount the disk using "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" gives me an error ... by the way my floppy disk is new.. plz help
[09:11] <szronik> ajmitch_: Yeah, so you say I need to uninstall and reinstall Gnucash?
[09:11] <gsnedders> what permissions would I need to set on /var/www to give the user "geoffrey" write access?
[09:12] <rsa> soundray, I believe so.  It's set to Generic 104-key PC, with US English as default
[09:12] <ajmitch_> aftertaf: why do you suggest firefox, when the problem is not related?
[09:12] <ajmitch_> szronik: or you can do the --force-overwrite with libofx2
[09:12] <aftertaf> i didnt, i copied and pasted.... or thought i did.
[09:12] <anton_> hello
[09:12] <FireRabbit> that procedure is *way* too complicated though
[09:12] <FireRabbit> that whole thing should be automated
[09:12] <sieste> hey nobody knows how to install a canon pixma mp110 on my laptop ?
[09:13] <mossy> errrr
[09:13] <aftertaf> ajmitch_: hmm. i got pwned by my irc client and my clipboard ;)
[09:13] <anton_> can someone past the original sources.list file for breezy bagger for me?
[09:13] <mossy> how do i removed kdm and install xdm? :P
[09:13] <aftertaf> FireRabbit: which one? :P
[09:13] <szronik> ajmitch_: Something is really not working too well. I read the Adding Repositories WIKI and I edited the sources.list accordingly and I keep getting errors witha lmost every apt-get I do.
[09:13] <FireRabbit> huh?
[09:13] <anton_> I edited it and I lost my backup
[09:13] <aftertaf> !tell anton_ about sources
[09:13] <FireRabbit> the whole procedure of insalling and enabling an acellerated X video driver should be automated
[09:13] <aftertaf> FireRabbit: yeah
[09:14] <anton_> thank you
[09:14] <londonboi2k3> oooo, just discovered Gaim can use irc ;)
[09:14] <aftertaf> but it seems that us. archives are down right now...... just in case ;)
[09:14] <aftertaf> lol londonboi2k3
[09:14] <ajmitch_> szronik: that problem you reported is something known, it wasn't quite fixed right before release
[09:14] <Weng> Don't look down to me :P
[09:14] <mossy> no help?
[09:14] <topyli> mossy: try something like "sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager"
[09:15] <benplaut> londonboi2k3: it works, but xchat still is so much better for the purpose ;)
[09:15] <szronik> ajmitch_: Yeah but I just changed the sources.list and I have "Couldn't stat source package..." about 8 times
[09:15] <londonboi2k3> its cool, since I used to use xchat just to log on to irc, and use msn
[09:15] <szronik> ajmitch: Need to find a new sources.list for my distro.
[09:15] <rsa> soundray, the Help says something about a Keyboard Switcher Manual, but I don't know where such a manual exists
[09:15] <ajmitch_> szronik: because after you change sources.list, you need to do apt-get update
[09:15] <benplaut> extracting a 600mb ISO from a bz2... this is going to take forever :/
[09:15] <topyli> szronik: you didn't run apt-get update?
[09:15] <mcjerry> can anyone help me with a sata drive issue?
[09:15] <aftertaf> !tell szronik about sources
[09:15] <krypto_> dmesg | tail says device :sda2 is not an NTFS-fs nor Fat Filesystem.. is there any way inside Linux to find out what file system it is
[09:15] <szronik> I didn't run apt-get update :) You're right, ajmitch, topyli.
[09:16] <mossy> OK
[09:17] <mossy> There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager
[09:17] <mossy> (/usr/bin/startkde). Nothing to configure.
[09:17] <mossy> mossy@MrMoss:~$
[09:17] <whitynz> Anyone got a howto: on how to resize a reiserFS drive... I spent ages last night trying to do it
[09:17] <mcjerry> krypto_ boot to install cd and let partitioner setup tell you then reboot without saving changes
[09:17] <TokenBad> is there a way to search a system for a file on ubuntu?
[09:18] <szronik> ajmitch: I did a 'sudo apt-get remove gnucash' and I got "gnucash-common...depends gnucash but it is nto gonig to be installed. E: Unmet dependencies...
[09:18] <_native_> TokenBad; yes places-> search
[09:18] <cocox> hi guys, im trying to format a floppy disk by shell scripts... i make a "sudo mkfs /media/floppy0" everything seems to be allright but when i try to mount the disk using "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" gives me an error ... by the way my floppy disk is new.. plz help
[09:18] <soundray> rsa, sorry, can't find that either.
[09:18] <nalioth> krypto_: "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:18] <_native_> TokenBad; or slocate or find
[09:18] <soundray> rsa, maybe it's vaporware...
[09:18] <TokenBad> thanks _native_
[09:19] <rsa> soundray, yes, perhaps
[09:19] <_native_> TokenBad; np
[09:19] <mcjerry> nalioth, after I updated to new kernel, i can no longer enable sdb1 which is 2nd sata drive, why?
[09:19] <nalioth> mcjerry: i know nothing about kernels, is your fstab set up correctly?
[09:20] <topyli> szronik: so, add gnucash to the command line. apt-get remove gnucash gnucash-common
[09:20] <soundray> rsa, I think I found it, it's actually called Keyboard Indicator Manual
[09:20] <_native_> mcjerry; did you do a custom config or did you use the stock ubuntu config?
[09:20] <mcjerry> yes, all drives work correctly 2.6.12-9-386
[09:20] <mcjerry>  kernel
[09:20] <mossy> topyLi: any luk?
[09:20] <soundray> rsa, under Help in the panel applet context menu.
[09:20] <TokenBad> hmm
[09:20] <TokenBad> its not finding the file
[09:20] <maddash> I'm using kernel 2.6.12-9-386 right now; can someone guide me through upgrading to 2.6.12-10-686? I've already installed the necessart packages; I just can't get LILO to boot to the newer kernel...
[09:21] <topyli> mossy: what do you mean? i'm always lucky :)
[09:21] <_native_> maddash; lilo why aren't you using grub fool? ;] 
[09:21] <mossy> lol
[09:21] <mossy> i did that, said nothing to configure
[09:21] <Weng> grub? real men use obscure-ass setups that require syslinux
[09:22] <_native_> maddash; run lilo /sbin/lilo
[09:22] <mcjerry> _native_ i imported the cofiguration of the running kernel
[09:22] <topyli> mossy: it means you only have one session manager installed. which, i guess, is xdm
[09:22] <maddash> _native_: b/c installing grub always affects my MBR,  instruct it to install to /dev/sda5
[09:22] <_native_> maddash; did you update the lilo.conf ?
[09:22] <mossy> but i got kdm installed
[09:22] <gnome_away> maddash,  grub isnt booting to the new kernel on my system either
[09:22] <mossy> aswell
[09:22] <mossy> cuz xdm wont load
[09:22] <mjk64> What the hell is the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" (both some 2.4 kernels, I guess)? The installer offers me these and a linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 kernel.
[09:22] <_native_> mcjerry; ahh what kernel version did you upgrade 2?
[09:22] <maddash> _native_: yeah; I edited the fields, "image=...." under "default=linux"
[09:22] <topyli> mossy: i have no idea why kdm is showing up _if_ you uninstalled it _and_ have killed the kdm process
[09:22] <mcjerry> _native_: follwed howto trying to update to 2.6.14
[09:23] <rsa> soundray, I'm sorry, could you tell me how to get there?
[09:23] <szronik> topyli: why do I need to write gnucash gnucash-common?
[09:23] <topyli> mossy: it's practically impossible :)
[09:23] <woozleboy> has anyone installed 5.1 on a sun ultra 2? Im getting a disk not found error during the install.
[09:23] <_native_> maddash; but did you run /sbin/lilo afterwards?
[09:23] <topyli> szronik: well, if apt says you have to uninstall both, then do it
[09:23] <maddash> _native_: i also changed the "initrd=..." field - the only prob here is that LILO doesn't display any boot menu, so it's impossible for me to tell if my modifications to lilo.conf had any effect
[09:23] <maddash> _native_: no; I'll get to that now.
[09:23] <mossy> right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here
[09:23] <soundray> rsa, right click panel, Add-to-panel, scroll down to Utilities, select Keyboard Indicator, click Add.
[09:23] <gnome_away> _native whats the fix for the new kernel under grub?
[09:24] <topyli> szronik: you might as well file a bug because that's what it is
[09:24] <asymptonic> qeqe: I just upgraded a laptop from hoary to breezy.  Afterward, Firefox has no/invisible fonts, so no text appears in web pages or the user interface.
[09:24] <_native_> mcjerry; the latest kernel has new options so you may need to go back and add the missing config option.
[09:24] <asymptonic> Any ideas?
[09:24] <soundray> rsa, right click the new item in the panel, select Help.
[09:24] <szronik> topli: Okay, thank you.
[09:24] <_native_> maddash; thats why, you must run /sbin/lilo after changes to lilo.conf to update it.
[09:24] <szronik> topyli: removing gnucash and gnucash-common caused gstreamer setup (?)
[09:24] <mcjerry> _native_ what config options pertain to sata drive detection?
[09:24] <mossy> topli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here
[09:25] <_native_> maddash; but it may be something else
[09:25] <topyli> sx
[09:25] <maddash> _native_: "lilo /sbin/lilo" isn't going through; the output tells me about the proper usage of "lilo" cmd.
[09:25] <topyli> szronik: this is very very strange. you system must be very messed up
[09:25] <soundray> rsa, there's nothing relevant in there, though.
[09:25] <_native_> mcjerry; exactly idont know off the top of my head but there is the help option for everthing in the kernel config.
[09:25] <rsa> soundray, thanks, fuond it
[09:25] <rsa> soundray, right, just looked through it
[09:25] <szronik> topyli: It says "Setting up...libmms, gstreamer, slib" etc.
[09:26] <ajmitch_> szronik: that's fine
[09:26] <szronik> topyli: I DID attempt to install the codecs a few days ago but it didn't work
[09:26] <_native_> maddash; no run /sbin/lilo NOT lilo /sbin/lilo ;] 
[09:26] <Weng> Did I give you permission to skip the ZSNES package?
[09:26] <ajmitch_> szronik: they didn't complete successfully before, so the config step is running now
[09:26] <Weng> No, I certainly did not
[09:26] <mcjerry> _native_ thanks will try recompile, reinstall new kernel.
[09:26] <Weng> ZSNES is the most important thing in the entire damned repository
[09:26] <szronik> ajmitch: Ah, ok :)
[09:26] <_native_> mcjerry; your welcome. ;p
[09:26] <topyli> szronik: do apt-get -f install with no packages as arguments, and let it work itself out
[09:26] <bolsh> Anyone successfully ubunting on a mac mini?
[09:27] <soundray> rsa, you'd probably have to change the source to allow more keyboard groups.
[09:27] <mcjerry> _native_ after install new kernel, ran nvidia driver install.....everything but drives work
[09:27] <bolsh> With the USB keyboard & mouse?
[09:27] <Weng> bolsh, if I were, I wouldn't admit it.
[09:27] <Weng> :P
[09:27] <bolsh> :p
[09:27] <topyli> heh
[09:27] <intmainvoid> Hmm
[09:27] <Zugwrack> How do I get ubuntu to read changes I made to fstab? Other than reboot of course...
[09:27] <intmainvoid> Alright I need help
[09:27] <bolsh> Zugwrack: mount -a
[09:27] <_native_> hey i have some great links to kicka** podcasts anyone want some?
[09:27] <bolsh> Zugwrack: Unless it was changes
[09:27] <mcjerry> _native_ could not startx with new drivers in 2.6.12-9
[09:27] <rsa> soundray, ya, sounds like it.  Sounds weird, considering Debian doesn't have this issue
[09:27] <topyli> Zugwrack: remount everything
[09:27] <bolsh> fstab gets read by mount when it's called
[09:28] <Zugwrack> bolsh: thanks...I just edited and saved it with vi
[09:28] <Almindor> why is mozilla package broken?
[09:28] <intmainvoid> I was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:28] <_native_> mcjerry; all i can say is "do over!" ;] 
[09:28] <aftertaf> intmainvoid: installed build-essential?
[09:28] <bungle> !dvd
[09:28] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:28] <soundray> rsa, does it not? That's interesting. Maybe you can steal the binary from a Debian package.
[09:28] <Zugwrack> topyli: Ok will refresh my memory using man mount to see how to refresh the fstab read...
[09:28] <bungle> !dvd factoid info
[09:28] <ubotu> bungle: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:28] <intmainvoid> aftertaf:  Yeah
[09:28] <mcjerry> _native_, if new kernel install does not fix prob this time, how boot to old kenel and startx without reinstall?
[09:28] <mossy> topli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here
[09:28] <maddash> _native_: cool lilo executed fine; how do I get it to display a boot menu?
[09:29] <MarcN> Anyone get handbrake to work on ubuntu?   Just adding the private repository for debian/sid doesn't cut it.
[09:29] <_native_> maddash; have you not restarted yet?
[09:29] <topyli> Zugwrack: this is safe only if you don't have many users logged in and all of them writing to your filesystems
[09:29] <Almindor> mozilla package anyone?
[09:29] <Almindor> is it me only?
[09:29] <MarcN> handbrake is a nice gui for dvd ripping.  Works fine in debian/sid
[09:29] <rsa> soundray, good idea.  I'll see what I can dig up.  I appreciate your help. Thank you
[09:29] <soundray> rsa, cheers.
[09:29] <maddash> _native_: gotcha
[09:30] <Zugwrack> topyli: NP no just a standalone macintosh with me attempting to learn Linux
[09:30] <aftertaf> Marcdunno... tried acidrip?
[09:30] <_native_> mcjerry; you want to get to a shell and comment new kernel entry in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
[09:30] <_native_> mcjerry; can you get to the shell ?
[09:30] <gnome_away> can i go into my /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the kernel only?
[09:31] <mcjerry> yes, grub still list old entry as boot option and can get to a shell, but cannot startx on old kernel
[09:31] <_native_> mcjerry; crap!
[09:32] <mcjerry> _native_ yup
[09:32] <mossy> topli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here
[09:32] <_native_> mcjerry; get to the shell and reinstall the old kernel
[09:32] <intmainvoid> So can anyone help me here?
[09:33] <intmainvoid> I was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:33] <gnome_away> new kernel is in my grub menu.lst but wont boot to it is there a way to fix this?
[09:33] <mcjerry> _native_ will try that and also try keeping stock nvidia drivers without installing new drivers.
[09:33] <_native_> mcjerry; do apt-cache search kernel    and install the one that you had.
[09:33] <mcjerry> ok
[09:33] <soundray> gnome_away, is the new kernel in the first section starting with 'title'?
[09:33] <nalioth> intmainvoid: isntall build-essential
[09:34] <gnome_away> yes soundray
[09:34] <soundray> gnome_away, and do you have a line 'default 0' near the top?
[09:34] <gnome_away> soundray, right under "end default options"
[09:34] <_native_> mcjerry; or apt-cache search kernel|grep 2.6.
[09:34] <intmainvoid> nalioth:  not working. I already have the newest build-essential
[09:35] <nalioth> intmainvoid: then idk what it could be
[09:35] <gnome_away> soundray,  yes default 0
[09:36] <mcjerry> _native_ 'do over'd' tis morning, updating to new kernel now, will be awhile
[09:37] <soundray> gnome_away, is the hiddenmenu line commented?
[09:37] <_native_> mcjerry; cool
[09:37] <gnome_away> its commented out
[09:37] <gnome_away> just checked again yes soundray  its commented out
[09:37] <soundray> gnome_away, when you boot and see the grub menu, is the first entry highlighted?
[09:38] <gnome_away> yes but its not ubuntu its sarge i was gonna also see how to change boot order while i was in here
[09:38] <ss> can anybody help with samba
[09:38] <sklav> hey guys
[09:38] <intmainvoid> Can anyone else help me?
[09:38] <Vertyg0> hi
[09:38] <mossy> bbuab
[09:39] <Vertyg0> how to work with .patch files ?
[09:39] <sklav> is there a reason why runlevel 3 has graphical interface?
[09:39] <sklav> is this intentional?
[09:39] <nickrud> sklav, 2,3,4 & 5 are all identical in ubuntu
[09:39] <sklav> not exactl6y
[09:39] <gnome_away> hoild on let me see how many kernel entries i have
[09:40] <sklav> 2 3 4 have 6 tty while 5 only has 1 tty
[09:40] <soundray> gnome_away, if you leave it to update-grub to manage your boot menu, it should automatically boot the most recent kernel.
[09:40] <ss> does anybody know why samba doesn't start automatically in breezy?
[09:40] <sklav> my question is why does runlevel 3 have a graphical interface
[09:40] <soundray> gnome_away, sarge or breezy or whatever.
[09:40] <gnome_away> how do i use update grub?
[09:40] <_native_> http://www.binrev.com/radio/ great!
[09:40] <sklav> its common knowlodge that runlevel 3 usually has no X
[09:40] <soundray> gnome_away, enter 'update-grub'
[09:40] <intmainvoid> I was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:41] <gnome_away> ok brb
[09:41] <_native_> ss; yes you must enable it in the system->admin-> services
[09:41] <soundray> gnome_away, but it runs automatically when you install one of the linux-image-2.* kernels.
[09:41] <sklav> intmainvoid, make sure you install required gcc packages
[09:41] <soundray> gnome_away, sorry, sudo update-grub
[09:41] <intmainvoid> sklav:  I have all of the gcc. I'm a C++ programmer.
[09:41] <gnome_away> i ran it just now and it found the new one im gonna try to reboot
[09:41] <slide> Is there any kind of xsudo program?
[09:41] <Chousuke> Err.
[09:42] <nickrud> sklav, that's a redhatism, I believe
[09:42] <slide> That asks for the password in a dialogue box?
[09:42] <Chousuke> My log of this channel is 300MB in size.
[09:42] <soundray> slide, gksudo
[09:42] <slide> thanks
[09:42] <mjk64> soundray: Can you tell me the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" the installer offers me?
[09:42] <Chousuke> stop speaking, people!
[09:42] <Chousuke> :(
[09:42] <gnome_away> before i reboot how do i change defaul os to ubuntu?
[09:42] <sklav> nickrud, bsd suse all have it also even debian has it
[09:42] <nalioth> Chousuke: use bzip2 on it, that'll take it down a few waist sizes
[09:42] <nickrud> sklav, no, debian does not
[09:42] <_native_> gnome_away; easy
[09:42] <sklav> init 3 on my debian system has no X running
[09:43] <soundray> gnome_away, man grub-reboot
[09:43] <sklav> and i never modified it
[09:43] <Chousuke> nalioth: yeah, I know
[09:43] <gnome_away> ok ty
[09:43] <Chousuke> rm -rf is even more effective :P
[09:43] <nalioth> Chousuke: i archive mine once a week
[09:43] <Chousuke> I don't need to keep #ubuntu logs :/
[09:44] <_native_> later guys its turkey time!!! :-)
[09:44] <soundray> Chousuke, ll lv t th vwls t sv spc
[09:44] <Chousuke> auto-log is just being evil :)
[09:44] <Chousuke> anyway.
[09:44] <fdsdf> errr
[09:44] <Chousuke> how can I stop a log in irssi ;P
[09:44] <nalioth> Chousuke: disable logging
[09:44] <sklav> check the preferences
[09:44] <fdsdf> still wont work
[09:44] <Chousuke>  /log close #ubuntu.log doesn't work :/
[09:44] <fdsdf> xdm wont load
[09:44] <nalioth> Chousuke: you can disable loggins in the config file
[09:45] <Chousuke> I want to log some channels.
[09:45] <gnome_away> grub-reboot man page was not helpfull at all it says the "entry number" is the order well no entry numbers in grubs menu list
[09:45] <ss> _native_: Thank you very much
[09:45] <sklav> gnome_away, default 0
[09:45] <sklav> is the first entry
[09:45] <sklav> default 1 is 2nd entry and so on
[09:46] <nalioth> Chousuke: you can disable logging for certain channels, irssi is very configurable
[09:46] <dude> wenas?
[09:46] <Vertyg0> choudesh: just type /log off in this windows
[09:46] <Chousuke> nalioth: I know.
[09:46] <soundray> gnome_away, 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl'
[09:46] <gnome_away> sklav,  default 0 is the only one in there and it boots libranet by default even though ubuntu kernels are at top of list
[09:46] <Chousuke> but it doesn't seem like I can stop it from autologging just #ubuntu
[09:46] <soundray> gnome_away, subtract 1
[09:47] <sklav> are they commented?
[09:47] <dude> tengo una pregunta
[09:47] <gnome_away> soundray,  so take 0 out and add a -1 to it?
[09:47] <Weng> Can I get a difinitive answer on exactly how large the package repositories are?
[09:47] <nalioth> !es
[09:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:47] <aftertaf> Weng: dont think one person actually knows that.
[09:47] <Chousuke> meh.
[09:47] <fdsdf> do i just give up
[09:47] <soundray> gnome_away, no, the command just tells you which is which, except that it is off by one.
[09:47] <Weng> Well, I'll know soon enough...
[09:47] <fdsdf> and use kdm?
[09:47] <Weng> Maybe.
[09:47] <aftertaf> Weng: hehe ;)
[09:47] <aftertaf> let us know
[09:47] <Weng> Yeah.
[09:48] <Chousuke> I just rm -rf'ed ~/irclogs/freenode* :P
[09:48] <Weng> I'll tell you this much
[09:48] <sklav> default -1?
[09:48] <Weng> It's SCARY large.
[09:48] <sklav> im not sure about that option
[09:48] <soundray> gnome_away, 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v0'
[09:48] <Weng> 5 gigs thus far for just w, x, y, z alphabetically under universe.
[09:48] <gnome_away> ok and the one i want to boot to is number 1 and if i take 1 away it still ends me up at 0 where it is set at now
[09:49] <Vertyg0> Chousuke: next time rm -rf /root :D
[09:49] <LjL> Weng: wait till you get to "g" and "k"
[09:49] <ajmitch_> Weng: you're probably getting all architectures
[09:49] <Weng> Yeah, I am
[09:49] <sklav> gnome_away, 0 =1 1 =2 2 =3
[09:49] <gnome_away> sklav,  yes that i know
[09:49] <sklav> so start counting 0 1 2 3 4 5
[09:49] <Weng> because Filezilla is too stupid to have an option to ignore amd64 and powerpc
[09:49] <sklav> ok
[09:49] <soundray> gnome_away, what are you running right now?
[09:49] <sklav> so you want which 1?
[09:49] <sklav> first in the list
[09:50] <gnome_away> what i am saying is the default menu says 0 ubuntu should be 0 but its libranet
[09:50] <Chousuke> Vertyg0: only if you sudo rm -rf /
[09:50] <Weng> Once it's on my local system, I can axe the other architectures easy
[09:50] <gnome_away> ubuntu i want as primary default boot
[09:50] <Pegasos989> How did I change the password of my user again? :)
[09:50] <sklav> is it loading the proper kernel?
[09:50] <Weng> but remotely, I only have what my brokeassed tools give me.
[09:50] <Pegasos989> !password
[09:50] <ubotu> Pegasos989: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:50] <aftertaf> Weng: didnt apt-proxy give you any luck?
[09:50] <gnome_away> sklav,  no it wasnt as of this morning
[09:50] <sklav> gnome_away, paste you grub.conf somewher so i can see it
[09:51] <fdsdf> passwd? :P
[09:51] <gnome_away> ok
[09:51] <Weng> apt-proxy would error out, because my only debian and ubuntu boxen are sitting on an internet-isolated network
[09:51] <soundray> gnome_away, if you've got multiple Linux installations, maybe you should have each one install its own bootloader in the root or boot partition.
[09:51] <Weng> Gotta do this the ghetto way.
[09:51] <soundray> gnome_away, then you can have one master bootloader that just chainloads the distribution you want.
[09:51] <sifi> is there some way to check if smp is supported by the arch? arch only output the architecture but not if smp is supprted
[09:51] <aftertaf> Weng: argh :)
[09:51] <Pegasos989> thanks, fdsdf . xD
[09:52] <fdsdf> np
[09:52] <earthen> has anyone gotta samba SWAT working in ubuntu 64
[09:52] <Weng> All this in the name of giving away a few thousand ubuntu-laden machines.
[09:52] <Red-Sox> * #Red-Sox_away :Erroneous Nickname
[09:52] <gnome_away> heres the grub list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5010
[09:52] <Red-Sox> what is that^
[09:53] <cafuego> sifi: 'uname -a'
[09:53] <aftertaf> Weng: a good cause ;)
[09:53] <soundray> gnome_away, HTH. Gotta go.
[09:55] <sklav> gnome_away, try default 0 instead of default               0
[09:55] <sklav> put 1 space after default and then zero
[09:55] <sklav> and get rid of savedefault
[09:55] <gnome_away> ok ill try it
[09:55] <mjk64> Can no-one explain to me the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" in the Ubuntu 5.10 installer? It's so essential, someone on this channel /must/ know!
[09:55] <sklav> as it might be loading libranet
[09:55] <gnome_away> save default is on all of the bootable kernels tho
[09:56] <Weng> aftertaf: Well, we've been handing out machines at the rate of about 100/yr loaded with Mandrake for the past 10 years
[09:56] <aftertaf> mjk64: linux-386 is a metapackage, it brings in all that is *good* for a 386 kernel
[09:56] <sifi> cafuego, yes, but uname does not have a command to just show if smp is supprted or not AFAIK, man checked
[09:56] <mjk64> aftertaf: So linux-image-386 installs less (modules or whatever)?
[09:56] <sklav> i dont have it on my grub.lst
[09:56] <aftertaf> mjk64: and image is the kernel package itself ( i think)
[09:56] <Weng> But now that our donations have increased to twenty times their normal level, we have to figure something else out
[09:57] <aftertaf> mjk64: yeah but better ti get the metapackage... it is also automatically updated and depends on latest kernel....
[09:57] <anton_> who do I  retrieve and import the signing key for cipher funk?
[09:57] <Weng> As of right now, there are 800 Pentium 3 700MHz/128mb/20gb machines sitting on the production floor waiting for an OS.
[09:57] <gnome_away> sklav,  get rid of save default on all kernels or just the newest ubuntu kernel?
[09:57] <Weng> All from one doner.
[09:57] <aftertaf> Weng: wow, nice :)        no way to get a net connectuionon there and apt away
[09:57] <mjk64> aftertaf: So linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 is older than linux-(image-)386?
[09:58] <mjk64> aftertaf: linux(-image)-386 = bleeding edge, linux(-image)-2.6.12-9-386 = "stable"?
[09:58] <Weng> Nope. And I don't think our landlords would appreciate our raping the shared internet connection like that, anyway.
[09:58] <LjL> mjk64: yeah the current kernel is -10
[09:58] <mjk64> LjL: Ah, okay!
[09:58] <sklav> all the older 1's
[09:58] <aftertaf> mjk64: not older, but when a new 386 kernel is released, you wont get it auto with an upgrade but you will with linux-386
[09:58] <gnome_away> 2.6.12-10
[09:58] <aftertaf> dapper has 2.6.14 right now
[09:59] <gnome_away> ok brb gonna try to reboot
[09:59] <anton_> who do I  retrieve and import the signing key for cipher funk?
[09:59] <anton_> i need my win32 codecs
[09:59] <mjk64> aftertaf, LjL: Thanks for your explanations! I feared no-one would know here, which would be *very* ... err .. disturbing. %-)
[09:59] <Weng> And the greatest damn thing is that the whole operation is self-sustaining, since we break down everything slower than 300MHz as scrap
[09:59] <aftertaf> mjk64: hehe i fugured it out all by myself ;)
[09:59] <Weng> In steel alone, we almost profit
[10:00] <mjk64> aftertaf: Your nerves must be ruined now. :-)
[10:00] <aftertaf> Weng: good on you guys ;)
[10:00] <Weng> CPU-derived gold... Well, we sent off a drum of CPUs on Tuesday, and we should get about $300 back from it.
[10:00] <aftertaf> mjk64: hehe.. getting there ;) but a good learning curve
[10:00] <slide> Im launching a program with gksudo and i need to get the pid of the launched program, i dont see anything in the man page for gksudo, and in the bash script $! only gets the pid of gksudo, not the program it launches
[10:01] <aftertaf> slide and ps -A shows nothing?
[10:01] <Weng> Operators of other computer recycling programs would kill us if they saw the stuff we break apart and melt down.
[10:01] <slide> aftertaf, im trying to get it using a script
[10:01] <anton_> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[10:01] <aftertaf> slide: argh.
[10:01] <mjk64> aftertaf: Actually, I hate losing the good Debian documentation and support for gaining the faster Ubuntu release cycles, but I'll nevertheless give it a try on my test machine. :-)
[10:01] <anton_> how do I fix that/
[10:01] <Weng> While they're scraping for Pentiums, we won't even use most P2's
[10:01] <nickrud> slide, can't you use pidof, since you know the program name in the script?
[10:01] <aftertaf> mjk64: ubuntu is sort of debian, so all learned is useful ;)
[10:02] <slide> aftertaf, im trying to launch a second X
[10:02] <mjk64> aftertaf: Thank god. 8-)
[10:02] <anton_> ...
[10:02] <cafuego> i didn't do anything, don't thank me
[10:02] <aftertaf> mjk64: and debian benefits from the faster dev cycle too ;)
[10:02] <aftertaf> lol cafuego nice
[10:02] <MrPockets> J #mirc4dummies
[10:04] <sklav> do kernels get updated thew apt-get by doing an upgrade?
[10:05] <linkd> a dist-upgrade.. they do
[10:05] <sklav> i see some people are running 2.6.12-10
[10:05] <sklav> and im at 2.6.12-9
[10:05] <mjk64> What is LTSP, anyway? ubotu-factoid for that is less useful.
[10:05] <benplaut> is it safe to delete the beagle logs?
[10:05] <sklav> linux terminal server project = LTSP
[10:05] <mjk64> sklav: Aaaah! Thanks!
[10:05] <yi> anyone using the cvs snapshots of xorg here?
[10:05] <agtnz> anton_:  the key is here ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys hold on a sec
[10:07] <sklav> ok using apt how can one see what updates are available without having to install them?
[10:07] <linkd> normally u just attempt to and it lists them without u having to accept them
[10:07] <FireRabbit> -s
[10:07] <linkd> or that
[10:07] <lips> hi all when i start synaptic it gives me error message stating that one paskeg is corupted and i should repair it. how this can be done?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> still no choice for 2.6.12-10 :( and libranet is still default
[10:08] <sklav> gnomefreak, how many hdd's do you have
[10:08] <gnomefreak> 2
[10:08] <sklav> hda and hdb?
[10:08] <cafuego> sklav: 2.6.12-9 -> 2.6.12-10 was an automatic upgrade.
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ubuntu on hda and libranet on hdb
[10:08] <cafuego> sklav: It had security fixes and you should have it too
[10:09] <sklav> i dont cafuego
[10:09] <sklav> and i jsut ran and apt-get update
[10:09] <nubs0r> I want to create a file to iterate thru directories inside this one directory and cat af ile called history..then grep for a certain word
[10:09] <anton_> how do I use this key?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> cafuego, its in my /boot/grub/menu.lst as 2.6.12-10 but doesnt give me that choice at boot
[10:09] <nubs0r> but not all the directories have a history file, so i need some testing of some sort
[10:09] <cafuego> sklav: Enable the breezy-security and breezy-updates repositories.
[10:09] <nubs0r> because this original line i wrote doesnt work
[10:09] <nubs0r> for x in .; do cd $x && cat history | grep -i "linux"; done
[10:09] <gfish> can someone help im having problems with xmm
[10:09] <sklav> i have
[10:09] <gfish> *xmms
[10:09] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Then the grub you think you're using isn't the one in the MBR.
[10:09] <sklav> i get all updates
[10:09] <Pygi> gfish: what problems?
[10:09] <nubs0r> so how do i fix that up to test if the directory has a file called history in its contents before catting it and grepping for a certain keyword?
[10:10] <agtnz> anton_: Hmm I'm trying to find the commands to import that key - maybe someone else knows. I'll keep looking :)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> cafuego, ok so how do i use the one in MBR without reinstalling everything?
[10:10] <gfish> Pygi, i can only play music with it when no other sonds are playing
[10:10] <anton_> thank you agtnz
[10:10] <cafuego> nubs0r: find . -name history -exec grep -i linux {}\;
[10:11] <cafuego> nubs0r: That finds all files called history and greps them for "linux"
[10:11] <nubs0r> cafuego, lol thats easier than writing a shell script
[10:11] <nubs0r> thanks
[10:11] <sklav> cafuego, what do you issue for a kernel update? is it in an exempt list?
[10:11] <nubs0r> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[10:11] <Parkway> Anyone here ever install TinyFugue?
[10:11] <Weng> The entire repository is 12gb.
[10:11] <levander> I've got a cdrecord command that's hung.  Can't even kill it with -9.  Anybody know how to kill it?
[10:12] <cafuego> sklav: You install a NEW ernel if it's a version upgrade, security ones are automatic.
[10:12] <gfish> Pygi, i think i know why but i dont know how to sort it
[10:12] <mjk64> nubs0r: leave a space before \;
[10:12] <sklav> then i dont have it
[10:12] <sklav> and all repos you mentionned are uncommented except for the mutliverse
[10:12] <benplaut> anyone know why beagle would be taking about 300mb of ram? my $home is only about 4gb
[10:13] <agtnz> anton_: I think the easiest way is to download the release.keys file then run 'gpg --import release.keys' from a terminal
[10:13] <cafuego> benplaut: mono is (*!@(!(#
[10:14] <gfish> Pygi, say if msn made a sound then it wouldnt let me play because gaim has a sound at the same time
[10:14] <nubs0r> mjk64, do you happen to know what flag to specify to get grep to print the few couple lines before and after the match
[10:14] <benplaut> cafuego: agreed, but nothing else works for beagle :(
[10:14] <cafuego> benplaut: That roughtly translates to "inefficient and a resource hog"
[10:14] <benplaut> yeah
[10:14] <cafuego> benplaut: Mine on occasion peaks at 1GB
[10:14] <mjk64> nubs0r: -A(fter), -B(efore), -C(after + before)
[10:14] <gnomefreak> well thanks i guess i will reinstall it
[10:14] <Parkway> Hmm..how do I compile/install a program when there's no make or install command?...
[10:14] <mjk64> nubs0r: grep -C3 prints 3 lines before and after the matching line.
[10:15] <cafuego> benplaut: I'm fairly sure the only way to have it use less ram is to completely disable it.
[10:15] <benplaut> hrm
[10:15] <anton_> hmm I did that and it still doesnt work for some reason
[10:15] <zenlunatic> how do you use tor in ubuntu?
[10:15] <Pygi> Parkway: first off all you need to use sudo
[10:15] <benplaut> btw, what do you guys like better - newton, or tomboy?
[10:16] <Parkway> Tried that heh
[10:16] <gfish> can i get some help with xmms
[10:16] <anton_> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[10:16] <anton_> still get that error
[10:16] <Parkway> make: command not found
[10:16] <Pygi> gfish: sorry, can't help. don't know what's the problem :/
[10:16] <sklav> does linux-image need to be installed?
[10:16] <gfish> Pygi, it says its being used
[10:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gfish about sound
[10:17] <agtnz> >>> Can anyone help anton_ ? ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys is the url of the key file - how do we get that imported so no GPG error on update?
[10:17] <nalioth> gfish: ubotu may have a solution for you
[10:17] <Parkway> Also recommended to run ./configure but I get a funky error when I do that
[10:17] <zenlunatic> anyone use tor on windows?
[10:17] <sklav> how do i clear the apt db
[10:17] <nalioth> anton_: wget ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys  && sudo apt-key add release.keys
[10:17] <sklav> and rebuild it?
[10:17] <nickrud> agtnz, you use apt-key, I'm not sure about the synxax
[10:17] <nalioth> agtnz: _: wget ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys  && sudo apt-key add release.keys
[10:18] <agtnz> thanks nalioth, nickrud :D
[10:18] <nickrud> sklav, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[10:18] <nickrud> apt-get update
[10:18] <bungle> where is my wastebasket??
[10:19] <sklav> ok i will try it
[10:19] <i_m_meen> hello
[10:19] <i_m_meen> is anyone using vim embedded in kdevelop?
[10:19] <gfish> nailoth thank you
[10:21] <anton_> gpg: can't open `realease.keys': No such file or directory
[10:21] <agtnz> anton_: typo
[10:21] <anton_> heh
[10:21] <anton_> woops
[10:21] <sorush20> hi
[10:21] <gfish> nalioth, ubtou had the perfect solution thanks so much
[10:22] <zeus_> HI
[10:22] <anton_> thanks a lot agtnz
[10:22] <anton_> its working great
[10:22] <zeus_> I HAVE ONer problem with me linux
[10:22] <sorush20> I have messed up my computer again..
[10:22] <sklav> cafuego, the only way i see the newer kernel is if i do apt-get install linux
[10:23] <nalioth> gfish: any time, share the love (help someone)
[10:23] <phasegen> anyone know of a good (meaning easy) program for converting wma to mp3?
[10:23] <agtnz> anton_: great :)
[10:23] <ioboss> where i can find kernel source?
[10:23] <gfish> nalioth, im a noob i wouldnt know where to start
[10:24] <sklav> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[10:24] <iguana> get the CD's
[10:24] <ioboss> thanx
[10:24] <gfish> nailoth, i jumped in at the deepend and got rid of windows all together
[10:24] <phasegen> kernel source is easy, open synaptic and search for kernel
[10:24] <sorush20> I install kubuntu from scratch, then using the not so stright forward partitioning tool I belive that I chose the option which allowed me to partition the freespace and leave the data on the current hda1 and install to the new hda1, but now all my data is missing anyway I can get the data back?
[10:25] <nalioth> gfish: help where you can, is all
[10:25] <benplaut> lets see how fast this solaris kernel really is >:)
[10:25] <sklav> oh well i will force it to install
[10:25] <pirx> how can i find out which package contains some certain command/file?
[10:26] <arnducky> howto get security updates from the official ubuntu repos automatically?  Would ya'll recommend editing crontab.weekly or is there some other Ubutuized way like security updates triggered by a listening Inetd bound server or e-mail notification or something?
[10:26] <arnducky> (e.g something like Symantec LiveUpdate(tm) or Wupdate)
[10:28] <JoKo> Hi
[10:28] <remission> i have a newbie question: how can i get umbuntu to mount my extra ntfs volume on boot... (instead of the auto mount)
[10:28] <nickrud> pirx, you can search for things like that on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <pepperpot> How good are the xorg drivers for Nvidia? Should I install NVidia's proprietary drivers if I want to use GL?
[10:28] <sklav> what is default kernel name when you do uname -a?
[10:28] <ricky_ds> Hi folks, I modified the colors of the happy gnome login so that it fits better to the color scheme of ubuntu. I'd like to share it with people and get some feedback. Anyone want to try it?
[10:28] <sklav> i have the following 2.6.12-9-386
[10:29] <nickrud> sklav,  2.6.12-9-686 (haven't rebooted yet)
[10:29] <JoKo> One of my friends has just installed Ubuntu for amd64... The thing is that his system boots fine, X.org loads also fine, but no session manager appears... Just a blank screen.. Could anyone help?
[10:29] <lemics_> @rick_ds did zou test it with gdmthemetester ?
[10:29] <sklav> nickrud, the new kernel is not even in my menu.lst
[10:29] <Mitja> us.archive.ubuntu.com is no longer down
[10:29] <ricky_ds> lemics_, what is that gdmthemetester?
[10:30] <sklav> i had to force it by doing apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[10:30] <pirx> nickrud: thanks!
[10:30] <cafuego> 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (am VERY special)
[10:30] <lemics_> it test the login theme for errors
[10:30] <nickrud> sklav, it showed up in mine, and as the default
[10:30] <ricky_ds> lemics_, note that I just changed the colors within the svg, nothing else, so I don't think there would be any issue. The feedback I'd like is more about the colors, if I caught the correct colors or if they can be improved?
[10:30] <sklav> i think something is wrong with my system
[10:31] <lemics_> on ubuntu just download xnest
[10:31] <nickrud> sklav, did you hand edit it at any time?
[10:31] <mjk64> Why does Ubuntu 5.10 not offer installation of GRUB in the installer? Any reason for that? I've been using grub for a long time with no problems (except for a few missing features compared to LILO).
[10:31] <cafuego> sklav: You can marginally improve performance by picking a kernel suited to your cpu as well (as opposed to the generic 386 kernel)
[10:31] <sklav> yeah when i first installed it
[10:31] <cafuego> mjk64: It does, unless you use LVM.
[10:31] <Shark27> hi! how can I configure my broadcom 4401? Now it doesn't work :(
[10:31] <sklav> cafuego i have a sempron 3200+
[10:31] <Red-Sox> my name is faded in the user list in x-chat!
[10:31] <nickrud> sklav, you may have changed it enough that the postinst won't touch it anymore
[10:32] <cafuego> sklav: So a -k7 kernel then :-)
[10:32] <sklav> yeah
[10:32] <mjk64> cafuego: D'oh! *That* was the limit I read about somewhere! Yeah, I'm using LVM. Damn ... hm ... hmmm ...
[10:32] <sklav> nickrud, i just added vga=0x317
[10:32] <mjk64> cafuego: :-)
[10:32] <sklav> for a smaller font
[10:32] <sorush20> why isnt' the Konversation colouring this chat?
[10:32] <nickrud> sklav, I didn't: that must have been enough :)
[10:32] <sorush20> like gaim
[10:33] <JoKo> One of my friends has just installed Ubuntu for amd64... The thing is that his system boots fine, X.org loads also fine, but no session manager appears... Just a blank screen.. Could anyone help?
[10:33] <cafuego> ouuucoeK is SOOO a spambot
[10:33] <sklav> that so sucks
[10:33] <Shark27> could anyone help me?
[10:33] <ganoosh> when i boot i get a grub command line, when i try to boot it says the kernel needs to be loaded first, how do i load the kernel?
[10:33] <fr33mind> When I open a session in VNC (breezy is client) to a windows 2000 vnc server, I can't double-click.  It was working in Debian...
[10:33] <mjk64> cafuego: Can I boot my newly set-up Ubuntu later from the install CD? Like "expert root=/dev/whatever" or so?
[10:34] <maxx_730> Hey
[10:34] <cafuego> mjk64: Yeah, should work just fine.
[10:34] <maxx_730> Anyone know what package in synaptic to install to get the original ubuntu usplash again?
[10:34] <cafuego> mjk64: Actually, with lvm, maybe not. Depends.
[10:34] <r4ik> have to check
[10:34] <mjk64> cafuego: Okay, then I'll skip boot loader installation for now, because I think Debian installed GRUB *plus* LVM!
[10:34] <mjk64> cafuego: I'll just give it a try =)
[10:34] <cafuego> mjk64: You can certainly boot the cd with 'rescue' and have it scan for partitions (and/or lvm/raid)
[10:35] <Red-Sox> oh
[10:35] <mjk64> cafuego: Ah, great!
[10:35] <c0p> hi im tryinig to compile drivers for my rtl8180 card, and i get the following errors: http://pastebin.com/437422 . latest kernel headers are installed...
[10:35] <mjk64> C-64 r0xx000000000000000000r!
[10:35] <mjk64> %-)
[10:36] <maxx_730> My rtl8180 card works out of the box?
[10:36] <Seveas> mjk64, rofl
[10:36] <jah_raztah> i just complied mplayer with gtk2
[10:36] <mjk64> :-)
[10:36] <sklav> how does 1 purge a package again
[10:36] <c0p> i need these drivers compiled
[10:36] <Seveas> mjk64, there's a beep-media-player plugin for sid tunes ;)
[10:36] <sklav> i forgot :(
[10:36] <c0p> i have it working with ndiswrapper
[10:36] <c0p> but..
[10:36] <Seveas> sklav, dpkg -P
[10:36] <jah_raztah> but the how to doesn't show how tog et the mozilla-mplayer to works
[10:36] <c0p> need them compiled for injection
[10:36] <sklav> thanks Seveas
[10:36] <ricky_ds> lemics_, you can have a look at it here: http://pastebin.com/437487 just save the code as background.svg and copy it to/usr/share/gdm/themes/happygnome(-list)
[10:37] <Red-Sox> why is my name faded in x-chat?!?
[10:37] <Seveas> jah_raztah, you don't need to compile mplayer...
[10:37] <jrsims> happy thanksgiving
[10:37] <mjk64> Seveas: beep-media-player? I'm using my own curses frontend to sidplay. :-) But I'll check out that beep-stuff anyway, thx!
[10:37] <Seveas> Red-Sox, because you're fading away from us :)
[10:37] <ricky_ds> Seveas, lol
[10:37] <Seveas> mjk64, it's only in my repo
[10:37] <Red-Sox> Seveas: im not kidding
[10:37] <Red-Sox> lol,
[10:37] <r4ik> mine to can anybody read this/
[10:37] <Seveas> I'll have to fix up the package before submutting it :)
[10:37] <mjk64> Seveas: Where's that?
[10:37] <Seveas> mjk64, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:37] <c0p> Seveas, do you know why id get the following erros when trying to compile rtl8180 drivers ~ http://pastebin.com/437422
[10:37] <sorush20> why isnt' the Konversation colouring this chat?
[10:38] <Seveas> in breezy-extras
[10:38] <jah_raztah> Seveas, I kno but the mplayer on ubuntu repos are gtk 1
[10:38] <maxx_730> Noone knows what package to install to get the original ubuntu usplash again?
[10:38] <ricky_ds> Red-Sox, so that you can spot your text more easily among all others?
[10:38] <incog> ubuntu, the proof that you cant polish a turd
[10:38] <Seveas> maxx_730, usplash
[10:38] <mjk64> Seveas: thx
[10:38] <Shark27> Anyone has problem with bcm4401?
[10:38] <nalioth> gfish: i'll let you in on a secret: you help people and end up learning a lot
[10:38] <Red-Sox> ricky_ds: in the user list
[10:38] <incog> just use windoes xp, problem solved
[10:38] <maxx_730> Seveas: Tried that already, still get the kubuntu usplash eventhough i removed it completely already
[10:38] <cafuego> Lots of people have lots of problems with broadcoms of many kinds.
[10:39] <gfish> nalioth, thanks for the advice
[10:39] <c0p> incog stop flaming
[10:39] <HansZwolle> dpkg --reconfigure usplash
[10:39] <maxx_730> thanks
[10:39] <lemics_> thats right cafuego
[10:39] <ricky_ds> Red-Sox, ah, sorry. don't know then
[10:39] <incog> who am i flaming?
[10:39] <maxx_730> Ill try that
[10:39] <Red-Sox> k
[10:39] <sklav> later all
[10:39] <ganoosh> when i boot i get a grub command line, when i try to boot it says the kernel needs to be loaded first, how do i load the kernel?
[10:39] <Seveas> maxx_730, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:39] <nalioth> incog: you should try to be civil in here please
[10:40] <incog> try cp /dev/zero /dev/mem
[10:40] <incog> nalioth, shut up
[10:40] <incog> prick
[10:40] <c0p> ...
[10:40] <szronik> I get a "Cannot open resource for writing" error in Totem.
[10:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell incog about coc
[10:41] <Seveas> sigh
[10:41] <Zedugh> last night, someone wanted to know how to edit contents of initrd.img-..... files, u here now?
[10:42] <Red-Sox> my name is faded in the server list
[10:42] <PinTo> l o
[10:42] <PinTo> i need some help
[10:42] <selinium> Seveas:  what is i with the 'people' coming to flame ubuntu?
[10:43] <Seveas> selinium, jealousy
[10:43] <abortion> Linux is a form of mental sickness; a security blanket left over from the childhood of the Computer Age. The sooner "Tux" and his travelling freak show pack it up and move on, the better.
[10:43] <Astxist> Red-Sox, you're probably marked as away
[10:43] <Red-Sox> oh
[10:43] <nickrud> Red-Sox, you can set the color in preferences, I think your name is 31 on that color list
[10:43] <abortion>  Linux is an OS where files have no association to programs; all configuration and settings are stored "wherever" in text files that grow to be megabytes long; most shell commands are so abstractly named that you would never be able to use them without knowing how they work.. or first reading its "manual page".
[10:43] <abortion> Linux is an operating system of inconsistancy.
[10:43] <abortion> Theres over a thousand distributions of linux, and over a billion different modified versions of it. Programs come shipped as source code that you must compile and configure (by way of large scripts that attempt to figure out how your system is running.. since nothing is standard).
[10:43] <selinium> Seveas: do something about this tw@
[10:43] <PinTo> i downloaded some pakages ...when i extracted them there isnt any deb/rpm files just folders...how do i go about installing these?
[10:44] <nalioth> Red-Sox: please ask an informative question
[10:44] <Red-Sox> abortion: okay, this channel is for ubuntu support
[10:44] <PinTo> do i have to patch them in ?
[10:44] <selinium> Seveas, CHeers!
[10:44] <nalioth> PinTo: what pkgs are you after?
[10:45] <PinTo> kernel-package....all the stuff needed to compile a kernel
[10:45] <Red-Sox> well.... how do you unmark yourself from away
[10:45] <lemics_> gcc
[10:45] <Seveas> Red-Sox, /away
[10:45] <mjk64> cafuego: Damn, now I know why there was an ext3 FS on that small partition I deleted for Ubuntu - that was /boot from a previous Debian installation so that I could use GRUB with an LVM-root. ARGH! %-)
[10:45] <PinTo> i need to compile a kernel so i can set up my ADSL
[10:45] <mcjerry> is it necessary that i import the current kernel config or not? if i don't when i reboot does it redetect everything?
[10:46] <Zedugh> i have to say it: abortion, linux is not for people who want their computer as easy to use as their microwave or tv remote, and who don't want to give up control of there hardware and software to some big-brother entity.
[10:46] <Seveas> Zedugh, this is not an advocacy channel
[10:46] <Seveas> and he left already
[10:46] <Astxist> heh
[10:47] <Zedugh> ok
[10:47] <Astxist> Zedugh, no point responding to ppl like that
[10:47] <PinTo> i just need to know how do i go about installing these all the packages r from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ but i aint familiar with this process
[10:47] <mcjerry> when updating to ne kernel, is it absolutely necessary to import the current config?
[10:48] <nalioth> PinTo: open synaptic
[10:48] <PinTo> yeah
[10:48] <ganoosh> how do i load the kernel in grub?
[10:48] <nalioth> PinTo: select all
[10:48] <cafuego> It's not even absolutely necessary to build you own kernel. It's not recommended either if you ask _that_ question.
[10:48] <PinTo> yeah
[10:48] <nalioth> PinTo: do what comes natural
[10:48] <Weng> Hrm
[10:48] <Weng> Okay
[10:48] <Weng> ....
[10:49] <Weng> So I have 16 gigs of RAM
[10:49] <Weng> and a 15 gig /pool
[10:49] <Xsylotte> q: how to set-up PPPoE connection in ubuntu 5.0.4 ?
[10:49] <PinTo> thanx m8
[10:49] <mcjerry> cafuego, dvb card drivers in current kernel causing dmesg errors, have to update kernel, but that causes other issues,,,
[10:49] <mcjerry> want new kernel without complete reinstall
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: ok, you can build one from a kernel.org source tree.
[10:50] <kaleissin> anyone experts at getting sound to work here tonight?
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: 1) fetch and unpack tarball.
[10:50] <Weng> I only have one contiguous 16gb HDD, though.
[10:50] <Weng> And that's got the OS on it.
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: 2) sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 kernel-package libncurses5-dev
[10:50] <mcjerry> got those
[10:50] <mcjerry> wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.14.tar.bz2
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: Cool, cd into the source tree, run 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[10:51] <mcjerry> that is kernel i got
[10:51] <cafuego> mcjerry: The latest is 2.6.15 actually
[10:51] <Weng> SCSI is the devil's tool :P
[10:51] <mcjerry> k, where get it?
[10:51] <Cyro11> is there anyone over here who talks spanish?
[10:51] <cafuego> wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[10:51] <kaleissin> Scsi nice
[10:51] <cafuego> !es
[10:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:51] <Cyro11> ok
[10:51] <Cyro11> thank you
[10:52] <Spudchat> hi anyone have any ideas on how to back up my dvds?
[10:52] <kaleissin> Spudchat, duplicate e'm?
[10:52] <cafuego> No, maybe I lie, and maybe Ubuntu dapper has just "invented" a .15
[10:52] <mjk64> Spudchat: On other DVDs? ;-)
[10:52] <Spudchat> yeah
[10:52] <cafuego> mcjerry: Never mind, use .14
[10:52] <Spudchat> preferably yes on other dvds
[10:52] <Seveas> ubotu, obey!
[10:52] <ubotu> Yes master seveas
[10:52] <kaleissin> dd from old dvd to harddrive
[10:52] <nickrud> Spudchat, dvdrip
[10:52] <kaleissin> then dd to new drive?
[10:53] <mcjerry> is .15 stable
[10:53] <Seveas> no
[10:53] <cafuego> mcjerry: No, use .14
[10:53] <mcjerry> k
[10:53] <cafuego> mcjerry: Did you unpack it?
[10:53] <Seveas> on Breezy, use .12
[10:53] <mcjerry> yep
[10:53] <Seveas> use Ubuntu packages unless you have a very good reason
[10:53] <cafuego> Seveas: he needs updated dvb drivers
[10:53] <ivo> hello
[10:53] <Seveas> that's a good reason :)
[10:53] <cafuego> ivo: mogge
[10:53] <ivo> who can help me with a webcam problem?
[10:53] <Seveas> !tell ivo about ask
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: get a flashcard-reader
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: move card from camera to reader
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: plug in reader
[10:54] <cafuego> mcjerry: Alright, back to the initial plan :-) Cd into the kernel source dir, run 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[10:54] <ch0c0bn> hi. is this channel using UTF-8 ? (should be, isn't it)
[10:54] <Seveas> kaleissin, *webcam*
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: problem solved
[10:54] <cafuego> mcjerry: That will make the build process use the correct compiler version.
[10:54] <Seveas> ch0c0bn, yes
[10:54] <ch0c0bn> thx
[10:54] <Xsylotte> q: how to set-up PPPoE connection in ubuntu 5.0.4 ?
[10:54] <mcjerry> caruego, prob after install with current cnfg is sdb1 my 2nd sata drive will not enable
[10:54] <binze> is it possible to install ubuntu remotely - over the existing Mandrake installation?
[10:54] <Seveas> Xsylotte, sudo pppoeconfig
[10:54] <mcjerry> it was all working fine b4 update
[10:55] <cafuego> mcjerry: Then run 'cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config'
[10:55] <Xsylotte> k Seveas
[10:55] <cafuego> mcjerry: Did you already build a new kernel before?
[10:55] <mcjerry> am going through kernel install right now
[10:55] <lemics_> or use rp-pppoe
[10:55] <Seveas> mako, you're cured again? :)
[10:55] <mcjerry> cafuego ;do over'd
[10:55] <cafuego> the 'pppoe' package *is* rp-pppoe.
[10:55] <Weng> binze: Yes, but your system has to support netboot and you have to be willing to sit there and scream for a few hours because the documentation was written like 6 versions ago
[10:55] <amcclure> Hi... I just installed ubuntu under vmware, and for some reason (even though i didn't set this as an "alllowed" resolution) it started up in 1920x1200, and when i try to set the screen resolution to anything else in GNOME the screen goes crazy garbage
[10:56] <amcclure> but my monitor doesn't even support 1920x1200
[10:56] <amcclure> Do you have any idea what might be happening here?
[10:56] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me fix flash sound/ video problems?
[10:56] <lemics_> zes siree
[10:56] <binze> weng: how do i check if my system supposrt netboot? i have no physical access to it
[10:56] <ivo> question: i have a webcam and ubuntu see's the webcam, but when i want to start getting images from the webcam, linux frezes completly! I got the driver from the company, so does someone know howcom?
[10:56] <Weng> binze: Oh, you don't have physical access. Then that's not going to happen, either, since you have to change settings on the DHCP server for it's network
[10:56] <ganoosh> how do i load a kernel in grub?
[10:57] <Chousuke> ivo: likely a bug in the driver.
[10:57] <purplefeltangel> flash will not play sounds and with some videos the animation stops....how can if ix this?
[10:57] <Spudchat> allright i installed dvdrip but what should my default database directory be?
[10:57] <Seveas> kernel /path/to/kernel param1 param2 param3 etc...
[10:57] <Seveas> ^-- gana
[10:57] <Seveas> ganoosh*
[10:57] <ganoosh> what would be the path to the kernel i know it's on /dev/hdb1 but that's about it
[10:57] <ivo> Chousuke: can i do something about it?
[10:58] <Seveas> first root (hd1,0)
[10:58] <Seveas> then kernel /boot/linux-version-something
[10:58] <Seveas> etc...
[10:58] <Seveas> abd dont forget initrd
[10:58] <ColD_7> purplefeltangel, there is a solution in the help that come with ubuntu
[10:58] <Chousuke> ivo: besides taking the source and fixing it, not much. :/
[10:59] <Chousuke> or maybe you can find what the driver conflicts with.
[10:59] <purplefeltangel> colD_7: ok thx
[10:59] <ganoosh> what do i do with initrd?
[10:59] <Seveas> load it ...
[10:59] <ganoosh> what exactly is it though?
[10:59] <ganoosh> lol sorry i'm new to linux
[10:59] <mcjerry> cafuego, this imports current config right? mcjerry: Then run 'cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config'
[10:59] <ciga> hi
[11:00] <gfish> what can i use to put music on my ipod
[11:00] <ciga> I cannot mount an other iso with mount. it says: 'mount: could not find any free loop device'. what should I do?
[11:00] <lemics_> man initrd
[11:01] <mcjerry> cafuego, here is prob. 2.6.12-9 running now, seeing all sata drives, but when i update to new kernel, i can see my 2nd drive, but cannot access it or enable it
[11:01] <amcclure> how do i find out what version fo x i am using
[11:01] <amcclure> i have ubuntu 5.10 and i don't seem to have an xserver-xfree86 pacage
[11:02] <mcjerry> use xorg
[11:02] <cafuego> amcclure: xserver-xorg (6.8.something)
[11:02] <cafuego> amcclure: xfree86 changed its licence so something non-free.
[11:03] <gimmulf> Hi, i really would like to have some help. Just installed ubuntu but X doesnt start, im in terminal now and not used to beeing here but i've used ubuntu before.  Im having an Radeon X800 Pro Pci Express card.  Error when trying to startx:  (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"  Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found  Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libGLcore.a:m_debug
[11:03] <amcclure> ok
[11:03] <Zedugh> amcclure, ubuntu uses Xorg, but to see your version, in a term type sudo X -version
[11:03] <mcjerry> cafuego: read above post and see if problem related to new kernel with config import
[11:03] <cafuego> gimmulf: Those are not errors. Paste the whole think to a pastebin website.
[11:03] <gimmulf> cafuego: i dont even know how to paste and stuff from terminal
[11:03] <cafuego> mcjerry: The -10 or the self-compiled one?
[11:04] <gimmulf> cafuego:  shall i dcc the error file?
[11:04] <gimmulf> maybe
[11:04] <cafuego> gimmulf: That's pointless, I can't do dcc.
[11:04] <gimmulf> ahha hmmm
[11:04] <mcjerry> cafuego: current is 2.6.12-9-386 from cd install
[11:05] <gimmulf> cafuego: do youwant to see the Xorg.log?
[11:05] <mcjerry> it works
[11:05] <damotor> hi
[11:05] <cafuego> mcjerry: I wonder if you should give the 2.6.15 kernel from dapper a try...
[11:05] <damotor> can you tell me what's the version of the driver for the ipw2200 wireless card that comes with breezy?
[11:05] <mcjerry> cafuego: will try, nothing to lose, what is link?
[11:05] <cafuego> mcjerry: Hold on ...
[11:06] <gfish> what do i use to put music on my ipod
[11:06] <nalioth> gfish: gtkpod
[11:06] <mcjerry> cafuego: I can update the kernel, the process itself I can do, but I have had same problem with sata drive whether running amd64 or 386
[11:07] <gimmulf> cafuego: What shoyuld i put on a pastebin site?
[11:07] <gimmulf> xorg.log`?
[11:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i use unrar to decompress a .rar file?
[11:07] <gfish> nalioth, thanks do u use this personally and is it good
[11:07] <mjk64> BROKEN_LADDER: unrar blah.rar
[11:07] <Cybercool> Chousuke: (i am ivo from 5 minutes ago)i tried it again and i get a view errors, do you want to help me
[11:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh nm
[11:07] <gfish> nalioth i dont wanna screw my ipod
[11:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> mjk64 i had to type unrar e
[11:07] <cafuego> mcjerry: You running ia32 Ubuntu on and amd64?
[11:07] <Chousuke> Cybercool: I don't think I can :/
[11:07] <nalioth> gfish: thousands of linux users use it
[11:08] <carlo> ciao a tutti
[11:08] <Chousuke> Cybercool: I have zero knowledge about webcams.
[11:08] <mjk64> BROKEN_LADDER: Damn, mixed it up with unzip, sorry
[11:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego lol
[11:08] <Qalimas> can anyone here aid me in a dual monitor task?
[11:08] <nalioth> gfish: i dont have an ipod, would you send me a nano to see how gtkpod works?  :)
[11:08] <gfish> nalioth, ill get it now thwn
[11:08] <Chousuke> Cybercool: I just game you whatever generic advice I had :)
[11:08] <Cybercool> Chousuke: do you have knowledge of: insmod: can't read 'videodev'
[11:09] <mcjerry> cafuego: can get amd64 running fine, but vdr, xine, and other issues, must run i32 to overcome and want to get it working prior to chroot
[11:09] <gimmulf> cafuego: What shoyuld i put on a pastebin site?
[11:09] <Chousuke> Cybercool: hm
[11:09] <cafuego> mcjerry: Yeah, I know. Just maiign sure I give you the right kernel :-)
[11:09] <Chousuke> Cybercool: do you have v4l loaded? or whatever it was.
[11:09] <Chousuke> video4linux
[11:10] <cafuego> mcjerry: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-3-k7_2.6.15-3.3_i386.deb
[11:10] <Cybercool> Chousuko: how can i check>
[11:10] <ciga> I can see only 0 in my /dev/loop/? Is this the reason I can only mount 1 iso file?
[11:10] <dabaR> Hi. How do I find out what files are in my classpath for Java?
[11:10] <Cybercool> Chousuko: i have also 2 other errors, i will paste them here, if you have the time?
[11:10] <cafuego> gimmulf: Ideally the whole contents of the .xsession-errors file.
[11:11] <mcjerry> cafuego: loading now
[11:11] <nalioth> Cybercool: please dont paste anything in here, use a pastebin
[11:11] <gimmulf> cafuego:  how do i copy everything in a file in vim and how do i paste?
[11:11] <Cybercool> sorry, what is the pastebin?
[11:11] <gimmulf> from links
[11:12] <dabaR> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:12] <gimmulf> cafuego:  the /etc/X11/Xsession file?
[11:13] <Cybercool> !pastebin insmod: can't read 'videodev': No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cybercool> insmod: can't read 'usbcore': No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cybercool> insmod: can't read 'usb-ehci': No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cybercool> insmod: error inserting './vm301.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[11:13] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Cybercool
[11:13] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[11:13] <dabaR> he didnt read:)
[11:13] <PinTo> could n e 1 tell me how i install these pakages? or a howto i downloaded a "tar" pakage then extracted it but there aint no deb/rpm files in there just folders
[11:14] <nalioth> Cybercool: i asked you not to paste in here
[11:14] <PinTo> how do i go about installing these?#
[11:14] <alessandro_> hi
[11:14] <nalioth> PinTo: what are "these" ?
[11:14] <mcjerry> cafuego: have it dloaded, not sure this way
[11:14] <gfish> nalioth, uve been alot of help today thanks, by any chance do u know how to author avis or xvids to dvd ?
[11:15] <PinTo> i downloded some development pakages cos they arent in n e of my repos..for compiling a kernel
[11:15] <guydebord> can anybody read this message? Ive been having problem ever since the anti spam measures.
[11:15] <amcclure> *scratches head* I installed ubuntu under vmware. Then I shut it down and started it up again, and now when i start up the ubuntu virtual machine a little underscore appears on the screen and everything freezes
[11:15] <PinTo> so i DLed them from ubuntu.org
[11:15] <nalioth> gfish: dvdauthor
[11:15] <amcclure> nothing seems to happen, it jsut stays iwth the underscore showing
[11:15] <amcclure> do you have any idea what might be happening
[11:15] <Seveas> PinTo, ubuntu.org is not related to the linux distribution
[11:16] <agtnz> guydebord: yep man fire away
[11:16] <nalioth> PinTo: ALL the pkgs you need for kernel developement are in the repos
[11:16] <amcclure> i fiddled wit the hardware settings a little while it was shut down
[11:16] <navarone> Seveas> Any experience using Ghost for Linux. I dl'ed iso and am considering using it to backup both os'es...
[11:16] <gfish> nalioth, are you serious
[11:16] <guydebord> Ok.  Other problem know I can`t see the other users.  Is that another security measure?
[11:16] <PinTo> nalioth i dont have kernel-pakage in there or linsecurses.dev and some other stuff
[11:17] <nalioth> PinTo: they certainly do
[11:17] <gp> How can I stop my computer from changing 'resolv.conf' on start-up?
[11:17] <PinTo> i dont
[11:17] <Seveas> PinTo, then correct your sources
[11:17] <PinTo> i only have 3 repos
[11:17] <Seveas> !tell PinTo about sources
[11:17] <faust> I'm having a slight problem with ubuntu 5.10 here. Fresh install (ran an expert install, so I wouldn't be deprived of my beloved root account). When I booted up after install, the networking didn't work. Entered root and ran dhclient manually. So, now that's up.
[11:17] <mjk64> Err ... how the fsck do I scroll back in rescue mode in 5.10? Framebuffer mode is activated.
[11:17] <purplefeltangel> how do i move an application into a different group?
[11:18] <PinTo> the only repos i have r what was installed by default i aint got no internet connection
[11:18] <nalioth> purplefeltangel: group of what?
[11:18] <faust> But whenever I try to enter any of the administrative features in Gnome, I get a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens.
[11:18] <Seveas> gp, wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[11:18] <faust> Tried both root password and current user password.
[11:18] <purplefeltangel> nalioth: on the applications menu
[11:18] <nalioth> PinTo: how are you talking to us now?
[11:18] <nalioth> purplefeltangel: right click on the menu
[11:18] <PinTo> windows
[11:18] <purplefeltangel> nalioth: thx
[11:18] <nalioth> PinTo: ah. well then
[11:18] <PinTo> so i DLed the pakages manualy
[11:18] <Seveas> PinTo, why do you need kernel development stuff?
[11:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell PinTo about sources
[11:18] <PinTo> from official site so know the stuffs good
[11:18] <Seveas> PinTo, and please try to type understandable english...
[11:18] <gimmulf> how do i search for software using apt-get?
[11:19] <Seveas> gimmulf, apt-cache search
[11:19] <nalioth> gimmulf: man apt-get will help you lots
[11:19] <gfish> how do i author dvds
[11:19] <mcjerry> cafuego: have file downloaded, have not compiled in this way before, what next>
[11:19] <PinTo> seveas so i can connect by adsl
[11:19] <nalioth> gfish: you grab dvdauthor and visit the dvdauthor homepage and read
[11:19] <Seveas> PinTo, sudo pppoeconfig
[11:19] <Seveas> done
[11:19] <PinTo> base install no good
[11:19] <gfish> nalioth, thanks once again
[11:19] <gimmulf> Wierd apt-cache search links2 wont find anything
[11:19] <Seveas> !info links2
[11:20] <PinTo> i need to build specific modules
[11:20] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[11:20] <cafuego> !find links2
[11:20] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[11:20] <PinTo> its pppoa
[11:20] <Seveas> !tell gimmulf about universe
[11:20] <PinTo> ATM
[11:20] <Seveas> pppoa :/
[11:20] <cafuego> PinTo: That's already in the kernel. What are you talking about?
[11:20] <tony_> hi, could someone tell me what file is edited when doing a 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'?
[11:20] <gimmulf> where is sources.list?
[11:20] <Seveas> tony_, are you using warty?
[11:20] <Seveas> !tell gimmulf about sources
[11:20] <cafuego> tony_: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:20] <tony_> Seveas: yes
[11:21] <PinTo> allz i need do is compile a kernel
[11:21] <frank23> gimmulf: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <Seveas> tony_, /etc/XF86config-4
[11:21] <PinTo> base install no good
[11:21] <cafuego> tony_: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[11:21] <Seveas> cafuego, indeed
[11:21] <guydebord> Any one know where to find the windows manager in GNOME desktop?
[11:21] <cion> hey all how do i use a webcam on ubuntu?
[11:21] <gimmulf> Seveas: that only gave me www links :)
[11:21] <cafuego> Seveas: It's in X11, no?
[11:21] <gimmulf> thanks frank23
[11:21] <Seveas> guydebord, it's called metacity
[11:21] <PinTo> i'm avin a bad day
[11:21] <Sanne> Hello, I have an Athlon Thunderbird 1000 Mhz, is it right that I should be running a k7 kernel?
[11:21] <Seveas> cafuego, I'ma filthy liar too :)
[11:21] <cafuego> Sanne: yes
[11:21] <Sanne> cafuego,  thanks
[11:21] <cafuego> Seveas: it's genetic with _our_ people ;-)
[11:21] <Seveas> Sanne, sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[11:21] <frank23> Sanne: yeah k7 for amd
[11:22] <Seveas> cafuego, *g*
[11:22] <Sanne> thanks all, will install :)
[11:22] <faust> Whenever I try to enter any of the administrative features in Gnome, I get a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens. Tried both the regular user password and the root password.
[11:22] <cion> hey all how do i use a webcam on ubuntu?
[11:22] <faust> What could be wrong?
[11:22] <guydebord> Can I access this through desktop or do I have to operate in terminal?
[11:22] <Seveas> faust, try in a terminal: gksudo synaptic
[11:22] <Seveas> what happens?
[11:22] <faust> Wait a sec. the laptop froze during logout.
[11:23] <Seveas> guydebord, what do you want with the windowmanager?
[11:23] <Seveas> it's teher
[11:23] <Seveas> it's responsible for all windows
[11:23] <Seveas> s/teher/there/
[11:23] <PinTo> is there a distro out there that has all the repositories on installation disc?
[11:23] <tony_> this is strange then. i thought it was XF86Config-4 so i renamed it and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again and it didn't complain about missing file and picked up my old settings from somewhere.
[11:23] <defendguin> where can i look ath the changelog for all the recent updates?
[11:23] <Seveas> tony_, auto-detected settings, not old settings
[11:24] <felipe_> weee, I finnaly received de breezy cds after two months and two days :D
[11:24] <PinTo> just incase yer Scwd
[11:24] <cafuego> !dstats
[11:24] <guydebord> Just change my window preferences so that they minimize into the panel instead of disapearing.
[11:24] <cafuego> aiyee!
[11:24] <carsten> how can i unzip bz2 files?
[11:24] <tony_> Seveas: right, where are they stored then?
[11:24] <guydebord> I can retreive with Alt tab but its a hassle
[11:24] <cafuego> carsten: via bunzip2
[11:24] <Seveas> carsten, bunzip
[11:24] <carsten> cafuego: thanks
[11:24] <cafuego> of bzcat
[11:24] <cafuego> s/f/r/
[11:24] <Seveas> tony_, *autodetected*
[11:24] <carsten> Seveas: thanks
[11:24] <Seveas> so not stored
[11:24] <guydebord> Windows preferences is useless
[11:24] <tony_> Seveas: :)
[11:25] <Seveas> guydebord, add the window list to your panel
[11:25] <tony_> Seveas: i see, i thought you meant from the intial install
[11:25] <PinTo> would i gbe able to write these files to disc and them through synaptic CDROM?
[11:25] <Seveas> that has *nothing* to do with the windowmanager
[11:25] <PinTo> load*
[11:25] <Seveas> PinTo, no
[11:25] <gimmulf> cafuego:  was it the /etc/X11/Xsession i should paste?
[11:25] <Zedugh> guydebord, do you still have the panel at the bottom of the screen?
[11:25] <cafuego> gimmulf: No, it was not.
[11:26] <cafuego> gimmulf: it was ~/.xsession-errros
[11:26] <PinTo> Seveas u must know what i mean tho about the folders?
[11:26] <gimmulf> thanks
[11:26] <PinTo> no deb/rpm just folders with amkefiles in there
[11:26] <Seveas> PinTo, I have no idea
[11:26] <tony_> Seveas: if i've renamed /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, should dpkg-reconfigure recreate it?
[11:26] <guydebord> great thanks. Little difference to get used to
[11:26] <Seveas> PinTo, then download .deb files
[11:26] <Seveas> tony_, yes
[11:26] <carsten> what is the correct parameter to de-tar tar files tar -xvf blah.tar ?
[11:26] <ColD_7> help needed, how can i extract an rar file in ubuntu?
[11:26] <Seveas> carsten, yes
[11:26] <PinTo> like i tried but its like not werkin
[11:27] <faust> Seveas: running gksudo synaptic produces a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens.
[11:27] <carsten> Seveas: thanks again
[11:27] <Seveas> and for .tar.bz2 files: tar jxvf blah.tar.bz2
[11:27] <faust> No error messages, nothing in terminal, nothing.
[11:27] <Seveas> faust, no output in the terminal?
[11:27] <faust> Nothing at all.
[11:27] <tony_> Seveas: thanks
[11:27] <faust> It also seems that dhclient isn't run on boot. I have to run it manually after starting.
[11:27] <gimmulf> cafuego:  i doesnt seem to have that dir
[11:27] <Seveas> faust, did it work before?
[11:27] <faust> Seveas: Clean install.
[11:28] <Seveas> faust, did you do a server or expert install?
[11:28] <faust> expert install, following pretty much the steps I would in a debian install.
[11:28] <Seveas> yeah, then sudo isn't setup
[11:28] <faust> ah
[11:28] <PinTo> this is where i'am gettin my pakages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/ some1 must be familiar with these
[11:28] <Seveas> you know how to setup sudo?
[11:29] <faust> No. Got an url for a good howto?
[11:29] <Seveas> hang on
[11:29] <Seveas> what does 'id' give you?
[11:29] <frank23> PinTo: why don't you just use synaptic instead?
[11:29] <PinTo> no internet
[11:30] <Seveas> PinTo, then download *THE DEB PACKAGES* from there
[11:30] <Seveas> and not the tarballs
[11:30] <PinTo> i'll check it i think they all tar balls
[11:30] <Seveas> *sigh*
[11:30] <Seveas> would I tell you to download debs if there aren't any?
[11:31] <r3tex_> what is better, mozplugger or mplayer-plugin?
[11:31] <Seveas> faust, what does 'id' give you?
[11:31] <Seveas> r3tex_, mplayer
[11:31] <faust> uid=1000(willy) gid=1000(willy) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),1000
[11:31] <PinTo> yeah they're all tarballs
[11:31] <faust> Took some time to type, that's all. Using the winblows rig to ask for help.
[11:31] <nalioth> PinTo: then you're in the wrong place. click on your arch type at the bottom
[11:32] <nalioth> PinTo: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <r3tex_> Seveas:  ok =)
[11:32] <Seveas> faust, right, sudo addgroup --system admin && sudo adduser willy admin
[11:32] <frank23> PinTo: look at the Download section of any packages
[11:32] <cion> hey i have a question is it possible to remove 386 kernel after having installed 686 kernel?
[11:32] <gp> How do I know if I use UpDown networking?
[11:32] <Zedugh> PinTo, you are on the internet now. you are downloading src tarballs from the internet. I understand you don't have a ubuntu system working yet, that's what you're trying to do. Download the debs (not the source) for what you need from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[11:32] <frank23> cion: yeah you can remove it with synaptic
[11:32] <Seveas> faust, and use the standard sudoers file, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5013
[11:32] <PinTo> yeah gz
[11:33] <Seveas> PinTo, how blink are you?
[11:33] <faust> Hmm.. running that command produced no output at all.
[11:33] <PinTo> yeah but i'm new
[11:33] <faust> and now nothing happens when I run administrative tools. Not even a password prompt.
[11:34] <Seveas> PinTo, ffs, it's right there
[11:34] <cion> do i compromise anything by doing such operation?
[11:34] <guydebord> does anybody know if I can log into freenode from another laptop with MS Window
[11:34] <Seveas> see your private chat
[11:34] <Seveas> for an example
[11:35] <Seveas> guydebord, sure
[11:35] <rixth> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu. Where is the configuration for the layout of Gnome's panel?
[11:35] <Zedugh> PintTo, you believe you cannot install without a custom kernel because you have some unusual hardware? Maybe, maybe not, what is so unusual about your hardware
[11:35] <rixth> Is there a single file?
[11:35] <TokenBad> whats a good newsgroup program for ubuntu?
[11:36] <Seveas> TokenBad, pan
[11:36] <TokenBad> thanks Seveas
[11:36] <Seveas> rixth, it's in gconf
[11:36] <faust> Seveas: After running the commands you gave me, and editing the sudoers file so it matches the one in the example, I still get nothing happening.
[11:36] <PinTo> TTFN
[11:36] <frank23> TokenBad: pan  works for me
[11:36] <Seveas> faust, does 'id' say you're in the 'admin' group?
[11:37] <faust> 4(adm)
[11:37] <rixth> Yes but how can I export it?
[11:37] <outrages> http://www.anakata.hack.se/www.linux.se_0610_0800_deface/ : KILL THEM ALL!!
[11:37] <faust> Seveas: no, it doesn't.
[11:37] <rixth> 'anakata' is the owner of ThePirateBay.org, he is also from Sweden. Same guy?
[11:37] <Seveas> faust, then something went wrong with the earlier commands
[11:38] <Seveas> does the admin group exist?
[11:38] <Seveas> if so: sudo adduser willy admin
[11:39] <adrianoc> please, where i found for "Automatix" ?
[11:39] <sorush20> guys where is that auto setup script?
[11:39] <sorush20> for the mplayer etc?
[11:39] <faust> Seveas: the group admin does not exist in the /etc/group file
[11:40] <Seveas> faust, then let's go the quick route
[11:40] <DuDE27> hi anyone know if there is a possibility to make the notification area in the gnome panel transparent?
[11:40] <Seveas> replace %admin with willy in in /etc/sudoers
[11:40] <faust> Done.
[11:40] <gp> Seveas:  I ran through the Wiki - now I am getting 'Connection Refused' messages from ubuntu sites?
[11:41] <faust> Now it works. Thanks :)
[11:41] <fevoldj2> Hi
[11:41] <Seveas> gp, hm
[11:41] <faust> The group adm, has that replaced admin?
[11:41] <Seveas> faust, no
[11:41] <faust> Because that's there, and I'm a member of it.
[11:41] <Seveas> they serve different purposes
[11:41] <fevoldj2> I installed the php5 module for apache2 and apache 2, but apparently there are problems with php
[11:41] <faust> ok
[11:41] <fevoldj2> =(
[11:42] <Seveas> fevoldj2, such as?
[11:42] <gp> Seveas: Was that a thinking 'hm'; or a command, or something?
[11:42] <Seveas> a thinking
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> i installed ubuntu, is it possible to change the resolution it uses after ive installed it?
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> i installed ubuntu, is it possible to change the resolution it uses after ive installed it?
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> oops
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> sorry
[11:42] <Seveas> the sites work for me, which site in specific is failing?
[11:42] <Seveas> !tell GlobeCoder about fixres
[11:42] <fevoldj2> Well just not being able to open a php page. it prompts to download the php file rather than loading it.
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> thanks
[11:43] <Zedugh> !tell Zedugh about fixres
[11:44] <gp> Seveas: The au.archives.ubuntu.com site works when I 'apt-get update', but not when I 'apt-get install ..'  (111 Connection Refused)
[11:44] <Mirith> Hey, i have a question about an install, i'm trying to install daimonin, and i'm following their instructoins on how to install, the first command after untaring it, being sh ./configure  except its giving me a cannot guess build type error  any suggestions?
[11:44] <Seveas> gp, try another one then :)
[11:44] <gp> Seveas: Also when I use firefox to try and access the 'packages.ubuntu.com'
[11:44] <GlobeCoder> ok i dont understand anything about that.
[11:44] <Seveas> gp p.u.c works here..
[11:45] <soundray> Mirith, apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:45] <Mirith> yah got it
[11:45] <GlobeCoder> I dont understand anything about that help thing on the resolution fix thing.
[11:45] <gp> Seveas:  Nevermind, thanks.  I still had the 's' in after the 'http(s)'
[11:45] <Mirith> well hmm i contributed the wrong problem to the next stage
[11:46] <Seveas> :)
[11:46] <foomanchew> help with SB Live in Breezy ?
[11:46] <Mirith> hmm... thanks for your help guys
[11:46] <rixth> Reinstalling now. Hope to be back within an hour. (though something will inevitably go wrong)
[11:46] <foomanchew> help with SB Live in Breezy ????
[11:46] <foomanchew> not getting any sound
[11:47] <gimmulf> cafuego: finally i got the file up: http://pastebin.com/437554
[11:47] <guydebord> do I join freenode through windows messager?
[11:47] <Seveas> guydebord, not
[11:47] <Seveas> use mirc on windows
[11:47] <gnomefreak> guydebord,  i would sure hope not
[11:47] <GlobeCoder> can someone help me step to step in lowering the resolution on ubuntu?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Seveas,  mirc isnt free you can get x-chat free on windows
[11:48] <rixth> GlobeCoder, go to the system menu, then preferences, then screen resolution
[11:48] <Seveas> gnomefreak, nope
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> rixth lmfao
[11:48] <Seveas> it's payware too on windows
[11:48] <fevoldj2>  Are there any configuration changes I need to make for php5 to get it to work with apache?
[11:48] <guydebord> the thing is I am currently using a spanish MS desktop so its kinda confusing
[11:48] <fevoldj2> I've installed both with adept
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> Seveas
[11:48] <rixth> GlobeCoder, why funny?
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> i dont get it on the help.
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> rixth.. lol
[11:49] <gp> Is the flashplayer-mozilla package not availiable for AMD64?
[11:49] <guydebord> directly through explorer then?
[11:49] <Killer_Smurf> Seveas Chatzilla works too
[11:49] <rixth> gp, no
[11:49] <rixth> Pfft. Reinstall. Back later.
[11:49] <foomanchew> help with setting up SB Live please
[11:49] <Seveas> gp, macromedicrap does not want to support amd64
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Seveas,  hold on im getting you the x-chat download site
[11:50] <Weng> If I'm specifying commands to be run in a preconfiguration file, they're run as root, right?
[11:50] <jkl-> could anyone help me with setting up static routing?
[11:50] <faust> Are the system tools supposed to start damn slow, or is it just me that's happening to?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> free x-chat http://www.silverex.org/download/
[11:52] <thewayofzen> free xchat  apt-get install xchat :)
[11:52] <Weng> And I knew I should have brought home more test deployment systems.
[11:52] <soundray> thewayofzen, you missed part of that thread.
[11:52] <Weng> Waiting an hour after making a change to know if it worked or not is a PITA
[11:52] <gnomefreak> thewayofzen,  for windows that command doesnt work in DOS  :)
[11:52] <thewayofzen> soundray and gnomefreak  apparently so :)
[11:52] <Mirith> ahahah... Blimp vs the Golden Gate Bridge... guess whose winning!
[11:52] <Weng> the blimp.
[11:52] <randy> Hey all.
[11:53] <Mirith> I <3 Thanksgiving james bond
[11:53] <Weng> James Bond is the ultimate badass.
[11:53] <Mirith> he is
[11:53] <jkl-> Mirith: what does "<3" mean?
[11:53] <randy> Anyone able to compile gnaomebaker on breezy?  configure can't find GNOME.  I installed build-essential, gnome-devel and x-window-system-dev.
[11:53] <Mirith> its a heart emoticon
[11:53] <Weng> It means he's less than three thanksgiving james bonds.
[11:54] <Seveas> randy, apt-get install gnome
[11:54] <jkl-> Mirith: ahhh ;)
[11:54] <Seveas> Weng, pfftopic talk elsewhere
[11:54] <Seveas> randy, apt-get install gnomebaker
[11:54] <gimmulf> cafuego:  did you see the errors?
[11:55] <randy> Seveas: I guess I could do that but I'd really like to compile it.  I'm stuborn.
[11:55] <apokryphos> randy: also note that the best way to satisfy depends (if and when you can), is using apt; simply apt-get build-dep package
[11:55] <sproingie> randy: apt-get build-dep gnomebaker
[11:55] <gimmulf> Does anyone understand theese erros im getting when trying to startx right after a new installation of Ubuntu, im using an Radeon X800 Pro Pci Express cardhttp://pastebin.com/437554
[11:55] <Seveas> randy, in that case: apt-get build-dep gnomebaker
[11:55] <guydebord> Im having some problems configuring my wireless connection.
[11:56] <randy> hmm.
[11:56] <ColD_7> where should i put my downloaded font
[11:56] <GlobeCoder> Seveas
[11:56] <ColD_7> ?
[11:56] <guydebord> It shouldn`t be difficult. Already installed ndiswrapper
[11:56] <GlobeCoder> can you tell me how to fix the dam resolution step by step?
[11:56] <ColD_7> i cant find the font:/// as mentioned in the help
[11:56] <GlobeCoder> i dont understand anything from that help
[11:56] <guydebord> In fact the wireless already work at the place I had it configured.
[11:57] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder, do you know the scan rates of your monitor?
[11:57] <sproingie> ColD_7: ~/.fonts
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> scan rates?
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> O.o
[11:57] <guydebord> The problem is configuring it to my own IP
[11:57] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  the horizontal and vertical scan rates of the model of monitor you have
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> how can i find out?
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> but
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> hold on
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> ill get u a screenshot of what i see
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> well
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> its like
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> over wide
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> really over wide
[11:58] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  for example i have a Dell 1025tm Trinitron monitor.  its scan rates are Hor 85  and Vert 120
[11:59] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  a screenshot will not help me.  you need to use google or the manual that came with your monitor to find out what the SCAN RATES in Hz are for your monitor
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> im trying to run it in microsoft virtual pc
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> i dont mean for the scan rates
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> lmfao
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> im not that dumb
[11:59] <vbgunz> Happy Thanksgiving All!
[11:59] <ArDz> its thanksgiving?
[11:59] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  then perhaps you need to ask your question with all the information involved so that people know what you are trying to do
[11:59] <Zedugh> gimmulf,  in your xorg.conf file, device section, what driver is specified for your video card?
[11:59] <jkl-> still 1 min to thanksgiving :P
[11:59] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder, good luck.
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> ...
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> lmao..
[11:59] <gimmulf> Zedugh:  ati, i've also tried "vga"