[12:05] <amu> lrwxrwxrwx  1 jr jr   22 2005-11-24 04:40 kde-i18n -> /home/jr/src/kde-i18n/
[12:07] <amu> Riddell: ping 
[12:10] <\sh_away> grmpf
[12:10] <\sh_away> dsl reload
[12:12] <\sh> amu: when do u have time to have a drink? :)
[12:13] <amu> sat. in essen ?
[12:14] <\sh> amu: ok..in the evening we wanted to meet with the gentoo guys for dinner...
[12:15] <\sh> amu: and send me your realname, fingerprint, keyid and all uids from the key..for the ubuntu keysigning party :)
[12:15] <\sh> to sh@linux-server.org :)
[12:16] <amu> keysigning ? whatis that :)
[12:16] <\sh> some stupid idea of some strange people :)
[12:18] <amu> hehee i've enough keys for next 1000years ;)  
[12:18] <amu> you write status reports ? 
[12:18] <\sh> only for me..and the packages i've uploaded...i need to write things down to not forget...
[12:19] <\sh> tomboy is a totally cracking tool for that
[04:59] <spstarr_home> can we fix artsd to obey shutting up when I tell it to suspend itself? :(
[05:00] <spstarr_home> hmm artswrapper
[07:23] <viviersf> ridell is always gone if you need him
[07:28] <viviersf> can some1 print me the contents of /etc/kderc
[08:13] <Tm_T> sure
[08:14] <Tm_T> http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/temp/kderc.txt
[08:31] <viviersf> i copied /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings to /usr/share/impi-default-settings
[08:31] <viviersf> and changed the url in kderc
[08:31] <viviersf> but 
[08:31] <viviersf> when the user gets created
[08:31] <viviersf> his kde is totally skrewed
[08:32] <viviersf> any ideas
[08:32] <Tm_T> nope
[08:33] <Tm_T> viviersf: maybe file rights in /usr/share/impi-default-settings are incorrcet
[08:36] <viviersf> i checked that
[08:36] <viviersf> ill boot impi cd
[08:36] <viviersf> and fiddle again
[12:16] <viviersf> any1 know where kaffeine stores settings about the engin it uses ?
[12:18] <freeflying> ~/.kde
[12:18] <viviersf> erm
[12:18] <viviersf> yes
[12:18] <viviersf> ~/.kde/share/config
[12:18] <viviersf> but
[12:19] <viviersf> i need the physical setting
[12:20] <viviersf> cos i dont have kaffeine-gstreamer installed
[12:20] <viviersf> and on 1st run of kaffeine it gives error
[12:21] <freeflying> have you installed xine
[12:21] <amu> ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine
[12:22] <amu> ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc
[12:51] <viviersf> i fixed it tghx
[12:52] <viviersf> ok i didnt lol
[12:53] <viviersf> basicly i want to change kubuntu-default-settings to use xine
[12:53] <viviersf> cos there is no gstreamer for kaffeine on impi
[12:57] <amu> you know about archive.kubuntu.de kubuntu.de/archive/ i just setup't it :D
[12:58] <amu> kaffeine-gstreamer_0.7.1-1.2kubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:58] <amu> kaffeine-xine_0.7.1-1.2kubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:38] <jjesse> how was bug day yesterday?
[01:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: ping
[01:51] <Tonio_> hy everyone
[01:51] <Riddell> Tonio_: yo
[01:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: I wanted to thank you for the revuing
[01:52] <Tonio_> I have personnal problems to resolv actually
[01:52] <freeflying> Riddell:hi
[01:52] <Tonio_> I may not have the possibility to add any correction before a week...
[01:53] <Riddell> Tonio_: a week is fine
[01:53] <Riddell> or maybe someone else will fix them all first :)
[01:53] <freeflying> Riddell: how abou skim  , i reload it today
[01:54] <Riddell> freeflying: cool, I'll take a look today
[01:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: well it is not that long, but I'm not in the mood to do any informatics actually...
[01:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: In fact, we add decided with my girlfriend to get married two month ago
[01:55] <freeflying> Riddell; the font I told with you yestoday are in breezy now 
[01:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: planned the date 2 weeks ago
[01:55] <Tonio_> and she is now about to leave me.....
[01:55] <Tonio_> nothing to understand except she is a girl
[01:55] <Tonio_> drives me crazy...
[01:57] <Riddell> Tonio_: crivvens. been there too, seen it happen recently lots too.  we still love you
[01:57] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee 
[01:57] <Riddell> hi \sh 
[01:57] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell 
[01:57] <\sh> hey Riddell 
[01:57] <Riddell> freeflying: in breezy? how so?
[01:57] <jjesse> morning everyone :)
[01:57] <\sh> this channel I forgot after my dircproxy restart
[01:58] <freeflying> Riddell: they are ttf-arphic-uming and ttf-arphic-ukai
[01:59] <amu> usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lattr
[02:01] <Tm_T> hug day :)
[02:01] <jjesse> i though hug day was the 24th?
[02:02] <\sh> Riddell: if kde3.5 build on the buildds...do u demote kde3.4 to universe?
[02:02] <\sh> hey amu good morning
[02:02] <amu> -lattr what was it ?  
[02:02] <amu> hey \sh 
[02:07] <amu> libattr1-dev :) brr my brain coredumps
[02:17] <Riddell> amu: it's to do with access control lists
[02:18] <Riddell> amu: I fixed kde-i18n in that archive (which is now moved to kde35rc2)
[02:18] <Riddell> \sh: 3.4 will be superceded by 3.5, same as any new package
[02:19] <amu> Riddell: hi :)
[02:19] <Riddell> yo amu baby
[02:19] <\sh> Riddell: yeah...i'm sometimes stupid
[02:19] <amu> Riddell: yep found it, thanks for fixing it, unfortunately i've no rights permissions are jr.jr :)   
[02:21] <amu> Riddell: pls add libattr1-dev as builddep in kdelibs 
[02:22] <Riddell> amu: ok
[02:25] <amu> Riddell: do you need an 3.5 breezy live?  
[02:26] <Riddell> amu: yes please :)
[02:27] <amu> 2 isos german + english ?   
[02:28] <freeflying> amu: may add chinese ?
[02:30] <amu> the thing is this: if you pressed it and deliver to the users localized images, the boot is about 25sec. faster, you just boot without any user aktion, that really rocks, but you need a bit more discspace    
[02:30] <amu> freeflying: if you test it, no prob 
[02:31] <amu> freeflying: we did it with the last gnome-live cd, people like such a solution  
[02:31] <freeflying> amu: i can test it , as for support chinese ,you'd like add some package s
[02:33] <amu> freeflying: great! do you have a meta-package with your extra packages?       
[02:33] <freeflying> amusure we have
[02:35] <amu> gimme 6h .. i'm still in office and have boring work to do :D
[02:38] <jjesse> grin i'm in the office as well, i've been looking at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19804 and i downloaded the dvd and it worked cna i close it?
[02:41] <amu> :D funny, he say nothing where it fails 
[02:42] <viviersf> how do i change firefox from using : file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[02:42] <viviersf> by default
[02:42] <jjesse> so what should i do w/ the bug?
[02:42] <viviersf> so that all users will use a different one
[02:43] <amu> jjesse: Mark bug as NEEDINFO
[02:43] <jjesse> thanks amu
[02:44] <amu> ... and ask him where it stops,fails 
[02:45] <jjesse> haven't worked much w/ bugzilla before i don't see where i can change status?
[02:45] <amu>  Leave as UNCONFIRMED   
[02:45] <amu>  confirm  Confirm bug (change status to NEW)  
[02:45] <amu>  accept  Accept bug (confirm bug, change status to ASSIGNED)  
[02:45] <amu>        and make me the owner 
[02:45] <amu>  needinfo  Mark bug as NEEDINFO  
[02:45] <amu>  upstream  Mark bug as UPSTREAM 
[02:46] <amu> login, mark needinfo  Mark bug as NEEDINFO, write in the input box, thx4reporting, but i need more information about your bug, ..... 
[02:47] <chmj> viviersf: look at the ubuntu-artwork package 
[02:48] <viviersf> chmj, i want firefox to load : about:blank
[02:48] <jjesse> amu: sorry i am logged in but i cannot change the status or mark it for need more info
[02:49] <Riddell> viviersf: ask Diziet how to change the default homepage
[02:49] <Riddell> he's the firefox man
[02:50] <viviersf> :/
[02:51] <Riddell> jjesse: point them to http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MediaIntegrityCheck
[02:51] <Riddell> jjesse: ask ogra for editbeastie privilages
[02:52] <jjesse> ok is he on #ubuntu-bugs? or?
[02:52] <Riddell> jjesse: should be
[02:53] <amu> Mid-air collision detected! :)
[02:53] <apokryphos> kubuntu's own wiki :-O
[02:53] <apokryphos> we should link to that directly from the navigation 8)
[02:58] <jjesse> Riddell: just given edit rights from ogra
[03:00] <Riddell> jjesse: I closed that beastie.  but plentymore for you to fix :)
[03:00] <jjesse> grin can you tell that it is the day after thanksgiving and i'm stuck at work
[03:01] <jjesse> out of 85 employees at work 65 are off today :(
[03:02] <jjesse> still new to bugzilla, looking at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12427 i think this is specific to his machine, any thoughts
[03:08] <amu> jjesse: ... and you have still time for a chat :) wow where do you work, they need someone more ;) 
[03:09] <amu> Riddell: is there a reason why you builded native packages? 
[03:11] <jjesse> amu: i'm a network admin for a community bank
[03:11] <jjesse> so like the whole loan department is out :)
[03:12] <jjesse> and yes i have time to chat
[03:16] <amu> cool, do they use kubuntu on their desks ? 
[03:18] <\sh> Riddell: kubuntu express is not approved, right?
[03:21] <freeflying> Riddell: scim's IMengine need up-to-date release in dapper
[03:21] <freeflying> Riddell: or it will not work 
[03:21] <Riddell> freeflying: ok, can you prepare that and put it on revu?
[03:22] <freeflying> Riddell: I know that minghua are activly here , may he works on it 
[04:38] <amu> Riddell: packages/not-kde35/ ? 
[04:40] <Riddell> amu: that's old
[04:40] <Riddell> amu: use kde35rc2 (which secretly is kde 3.5)
[04:43] <freeflying> Riddell: are kde3.5 in dapper now ? 
[04:44] <amu> Riddell: arts/kdelibs/kdebase are ready  
[04:44] <Riddell> freeflying: 3.5 just failed in dapper, I need to work out why now
[04:46] <freeflying> Riddell:will scim-1.4.2 backport to breezy?
[04:47] <Riddell> should do
[05:43] <jpatrick> Riddell: poke
[05:55] <Riddell> jpatrick: hi
[05:57] <jpatrick> No news on my package?
[05:57] <Riddell> umm, wibble.  I will do revu today.  promise
[05:59] <jpatrick> Riddell: are there any RC2 packages (been built, need building) ?
[06:00] <Riddell> jpatrick: for breezy yes
[06:01] <Riddell> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35rc2 breezy main
[06:01] <Riddell> testers wanted
[06:01] <jpatrick> I'm on Dapper
[06:01] <Riddell> jpatrick: with any luck I'll upload it to dapper today
[06:02] <Riddell> but kdeprint has an evil random compile error that's appeared
[06:03] <jpatrick> hmm...
[06:03] <jpatrick> Might break my X
[06:06] <jpatrick> So this is the final?
[06:06] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, unless there's any major problems
[06:06] <Riddell> rc2 for once is actually a release candidate :)
[06:10] <jpatrick> Riddell: is it okay to talk about those packages on KubuntuForums?
[06:12] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, so long as you call them rc2
[06:13] <Riddell> jpatrick: and make clear they're still in testing and havn't been announced 
[06:20] <jpatrick> Riddell: okay
[06:51] <jpatrick> Riddell: YaP: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1023
[06:52] <Riddell> woo
[06:52] <jpatrick> wow
[06:53] <jpatrick> diff looks bad :/
[06:55] <pef> hello
[06:55] <jpatrick> hi pef
[07:13] <amu> Riddell: cant find the diff in kdepim 
[07:13] <Riddell> amu: URL?
[07:14] <amu> kde352rc2/pool-breezy/kdepim
[07:14] <Riddell> hmm, wonder where that went.  hang on
[07:14] <amu> thanks
[07:19] <Riddell> amu: uploaded
[07:19] <amu> hmm another problem 
[07:19] <amu> -rw-r--r-- 1 amu amu   351696 2005-11-25 12:21 kdelibs_3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1.diff.gz
[07:19] <amu> -rw-r--r-- 1 amu amu 18792812 2005-11-25 12:22 kdelibs_3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1.tar.gz
[07:19] <amu> -rw-r--r-- 1 amu amu 18793989 2005-11-25 12:22 kdelibs_3.5.0-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
[07:19] <amu> -rw-r--r-- 1 amu amu 18651833 2005-11-25 12:23 kdelibs_3.5.0.orig.tar.gz
[07:20] <amu> -rw-r--r-- 1 amu amu 18651833 2005-11-25 12:23 kdelibs_3.5.orig.tar.gz
[07:20] <Riddell> ah yes, I might have broken the version number in changing between rc2 and 3.5.0 or something
[07:20] <amu> 2 times same archive, 1 with an diff and as nativ packages 
[07:20] <Riddell> does the diff/dsc work?
[07:21] <Riddell> the rest are obsolete
[07:21] <amu> yep, they work .... i'm bit suprised, why there are 3 tar's   
[07:22] <amu> .. compared them with my sources it matches ... 
[07:22] <amu> but diffent names :) 
[07:23] <amu> different even 
[07:25] <amu> hmm, better i restart the build with your diffs and the origrinal packages from ktown, i dont like native packages :)
[07:27] <amu> this packages ( from kde35rc2 ) include the missing builddep, which i told your earlier today?  
[07:27] <Riddell> amu: I think it does yes
[07:29] <amu> btw. still no news from opi, who want sponsor the ppc buildd :)  
[07:30] <amu> the tag dapper in the breezy backports is fine for you?     
[07:30] <Riddell> backports?
[07:31] <amu> i build the packages of course first for my system, which is breezy :) 
[07:33] <Riddell> oh, you mean having dapper in the changelog first line?
[07:33] <Riddell> that should be changed, I forgot for a few I think
[07:43] <amu> Riddell: i setup'ed today archive.kubuntu.de which is browsable at kubuntu.de/archive   
[07:44] <amu> i'm not sure if you can use them in general, is there an easy way to merge between kubuntu.org and .de ? 
[07:45] <amu> maybe we do work twice :)   
[07:46] <Riddell> amu: can't I just make kubuntu.org's archive writable by you then you can upload your .debs there?
[07:49] <amu> Riddell: should be no problem, remember we spoke earlier times about this, my goal was 1 offical backports tree ( which is supported by the community )    
[07:50] <Riddell> amu: should be writable by you now
[07:52] <amu> yep   
[07:54] <amu> ok, i'll merge them into it, after i checked quality of the packages
[07:54] <Riddell> thanks
[07:56] <amu> another thing, webpages, setuped joomola, which comes from mambo, it#s an free forc, our webteam maintains the pages, i'm sure you and other can save work if the teams handle news and such stuff for their own  
[07:58] <Riddell> www.ubuntu.com is moving to moin
[08:01] <amu> and with "moin" :) cool name, you have also different user levers, like a group of blogger can just blog, newsposters, editors, docwriters?      
[08:02] <Riddell> no idea
[08:05] <jjesse> Riddell: bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13557 referes to a Kubuntu daily build from 08-15-05 should it stay open?
[08:07] <Riddell> I'd say that can be closed quite safely now
[08:57] <jjesse> just upgraded to kde 3.5rc w/ no issues
[08:59] <Riddell> jjesse: breezy?
[08:59] <jjesse> Riddell:  yeah breezy
[08:59] <jjesse> working on re downloading latest flight of dapper and will go to 3.5rc2
[08:59] <jjesse> meant 3.5rc on my breezy build
[09:05] <jjesse> gah 3.5rc2 on breezy build