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Knowerrorsso you have both ubuntu and kubuntu installed on the same box12:03
kkathmanfrank23: thats ok...perfectly normal in fact12:04
dareboyhow do u get limewire12:05
naliothdareboy: i'll ask ubotu to send it again12:05
naliothubotu: tell dareboy about restricted12:05
dareboyThis page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.12:06
dareboywat do i do12:06
frank23Knowerrors: actually no, I sort of ripped out the ubuntu only packages after installing kubuntu if I remember correctly12:07
naliothdareboy: you go to the page ubotu sent you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:07
Knowerrorsdinner time, peace and ubuntu :)12:07
dareboyi no but that is wat it said12:08
dareboythe page does not exsist12:08
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naliothdareboy: i just looked at the page.12:09
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dareboythis is wat it says12:13
dareboyThis page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.12:13
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Mars_^Hi12:14
Mars_^I have question12:14
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Mars^Hi12:16
Mars^I have completly noob qyestion12:16
Mars^is it possible to run 32 bit ubuntu version on 64 ?12:16
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apacheloggershould be ... though I haven't tried12:17
MitjaIs there a way in konsole to add Universe repository to apt-get?12:17
apokryphosMitja: yes, use nano and edit /etc/apt/sources.list12:18
Mitjaapokryphos: thx12:18
apacheloggerapokryphos: what's nano?12:19
apokryphosapachelogger: free Pico clone12:19
apokryphosapachelogger: CLI editor12:19
apacheloggerah12:20
apacheloggerthx :-)12:20
Mitjaapokryphos: will it automatically refer to them after I save the file or do I have to rebuild something?12:21
apokryphosMitja: if you uncommented the respective lines in the file, then save and close it, then sudo apt-get update12:21
Mitjaapokryphos: ok, I thought so :)12:21
Mitjahmmm, still ktorrent is not there...12:22
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MitjaI just went through a process of installing ktorrent. I had to (I like it, don't get me wrong) install several libs for the app to work. Is there an automatic way to do this?12:25
MitjaI hear apt-get takes care of dependencies, but I don't know how to use it in such case.12:26
l3mMitja: sudo apt-get install ktorrent12:29
l3mand everything goes automatically12:29
Mitjal3m: nah, didn't work12:29
l3merror?12:29
Mitjal3m couldn't find package12:29
Mitjastill now when it's already installed :)12:29
l3mMitja: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:30
l3mthere you can click yourself a reasonable sources.list12:30
Mitjais it safe to mix ubuntu and kubuntu ?12:30
l3mdownload it, copy it to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update. 12:30
l3mit's the same. yes it's safe12:30
Mitjal3m: k, thanks12:31
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TROGDOR42w00t kubuntu12:34
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Niklas-of-Viennahi12:36
TROGDOR42hi12:36
martini have been using kubuntu for about 12h now and i most say that i didnt thought it should be so damn good12:39
apacheloggerNiklas-of-Vienna: ah, vienna, awesome ;-)12:39
TROGDOR42Yeah, kubuntu is sexy.12:39
martinindeed ;)12:39
TROGDOR42I've tried SuSE, Mandriva...12:39
TROGDOR42Failed to install gentoo and wiped out my entire hard drive by mistake12:40
Filladooops12:40
TROGDOR42Also failed to install Debian.12:40
TROGDOR42But with debian there was no real loss.12:40
Niklas-of-Viennaive been using kubuntu for one month, love it12:40
martini have tried fedora, mandriva and gentoo but i didnt like any of them either12:41
Niklas-of-Viennaim spending lots of time discovering ne things12:41
TROGDOR42Did you succeed at the install of gentoo?12:41
TROGDOR42Man that install's a biatch12:41
martinyes but it took about 10h :)12:41
Niklas-of-Viennaapachelogger: where are you from?12:41
TROGDOR42lol12:42
martinyup i failed alot of times with gentoo12:42
TROGDOR42Yeah12:42
TROGDOR42I will get it eventually, I hope.12:42
martinu will12:42
TROGDOR42I want to get Slackware, but I've heard it doesn't bother to calculate dependencies.12:43
TROGDOR42I don't really need that12:43
martinbtw where u guys from?12:43
TROGDOR42Anybody know when the KDE 3.5 release of Dapper Drake will come out?12:43
TROGDOR42I'm dying to try 3.512:44
kkathmanDapper will be out in about 5 months12:45
kkathmanor so12:45
l3mubotu: tell TROGDOR42 about kde3.512:45
kkathmanKDE 3.5 is available as an RC12:45
kkathmanbut its still pretty buggy12:45
TROGDOR42I'd imagine12:45
kkathmanBreezy was just released, and ubuntu is on a 6- month release cycle roughly12:46
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TROGDOR42I mean the Dapper beta testy thing12:46
kkathmanoh you can use Dapper now if you want12:46
TROGDOR42Yeah, but for KDE 3.5.  I'm just too darn lazy to go through the whole wget thing12:46
TROGDOR42It asks for a password and I dont' know what to put12:47
kkathmanbut you'd probably only want to use it if you want to be an early tester, cuz its at that stage where its kinda a mush12:47
TROGDOR42Yeah, you're probably right12:47
kkathmanif you want kde 3.5 go to kde.org12:47
kkathmanbut just keep in mind its very rough12:48
TROGDOR42Yeah12:48
apokryphoskkathman: why kde.org?12:48
TROGDOR42That's kde's official site is it not?12:48
kkathmanapokryphos:  uhm... well figure kde....kde.org...a good site right?12:48
kkathmanlol12:48
apokryphoskkathman: for getting 3.5 probably not, no12:49
apokryphoskubuntu.org will point you in the direction quicker12:49
kkathman??12:49
kkathmanso you are telling me that kde.org wouldnt be the place you'd want to download kde ??? lol12:49
TROGDOR42What password do you put when it asks for one12:49
TROGDOR42With that Jonathan Riddell Key thing12:49
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martinwhich relative new commercial games are playable under linux without emulation?12:50
kkathmannext thing you know, the best place to get CNN news is NBC.com12:50
kkathmanlol12:50
TROGDOR42lol12:50
apokryphoskkathman: it won't tell you what to put in sources.list, no12:50
kkathmanok12:50
kkathmanshrug12:50
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apokryphosTROGDOR42: no password; it doesn't ask for one12:51
TROGDOR42It did for me...12:51
apokryphosTROGDOR42: did you run the exact command it tells you to?12:51
TROGDOR42Yeah, copied and pasted12:51
apokryphosTROGDOR42: can you pastebin the exact terminal output with the command?12:52
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TROGDOR42Not now, i'm kind of... in... erm...12:52
TROGDOR42This is embarressing.12:52
TROGDOR42windoze.  *goes away and cries*12:53
apokryphosyou can say it12:53
apokryphosgnome12:53
apokryphosheh12:53
TROGDOR42No, i can't stand gnome12:53
apokryphosTROGDOR42: why would you not be able to pastebin from there?12:53
TROGDOR42i'm in windows12:53
TROGDOR42I can reboot though12:53
TROGDOR42I probably should.12:53
apokryphoshttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com12:53
TROGDOR42I'm not using windows for anything anyway12:53
apokryphosoh, you mean you have two computers there?12:54
martinmaybe dualboot12:54
TROGDOR42I dualboot12:54
TROGDOR42But I do have a Linux box12:54
TROGDOR42it's a crappy laptop12:54
apokryphosok, try the command again later :P12:55
TROGDOR42Amazing how much Linux speeds it up.12:55
TROGDOR42People tell me that everybody starts Linux with either Gnome or KDE then switches over to KDE if they use Gnome then switch back to Gnome later12:56
TROGDOR42But i can't imagine switching to Gnome12:56
apokryphosI've only ever heard of a few cases of that12:56
apokryphosI imagine it's pretty rare12:56
TROGDOR42Really?12:56
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TROGDOR42I know two people at school who did that12:56
apokryphoswell, of course12:56
apokryphosKDE is far more popular than gnome, remember12:57
apokryphos(developer and user-wise)12:57
TROGDOR42I don't remember... Having been a Linux user since late September12:58
TROGDOR42I started with Ubuntu and it didn't work, so i moved on to Mandriva12:58
TROGDOR42Then SuSE, then Kubuntu12:58
apokryphoshaven't used Mandriva in over a year, so don't remember it too much.12:58
apokryphosSuSE is a great distro, as is Kubuntu12:59
TROGDOR42SuSE is great, but it seemed a little slow and it didn't work the way I prefered.12:59
apokryphosI find it slightly slower too. The polish it has is very impressive however12:59
TROGDOR42Polish like the language or polish like polish?01:00
apokryphospolish like polish01:00
TROGDOR42Ah01:00
TROGDOR42Yeah, I agree there01:00
apokryphosvery many convenientisms; very usable01:00
TROGDOR42Yup01:00
apokryphosits repositories are however an issue01:00
apokryphosespecially if you come from anything debian-based :D01:00
apokryphoswell, I don't like its whole package management system *that* much either :P. Apt is nice.01:01
apokryphosyes, I know you can use apt with it too 8)01:01
TROGDOR42Yeah01:02
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KiseonikHello. Any way to install Kubuntu to a loop-mounted file from the CD?01:03
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bettseHow do I set my timezone in kubuntu?01:04
bettse!google timezone kubunt01:04
ubotubettse: I don't know, could you explain it?01:04
TROGDOR42Hey are Nvidia graphics cards good in Linux?01:05
apokryphosvery much so, yes01:06
Kiseonikyup01:06
apokryphosnvidia=good; ati=evil01:06
TROGDOR42Good, my ATi blows in Linux.01:06
TROGDOR42Is it easy to get the drivers?01:06
apokryphosyes; ones from the repos are great01:06
Kiseonikwhat about the oficial drivers?01:07
l3mit's the same drivers, just different packaging01:08
TROGDOR42Packages are fun!01:08
l3mtherefore, use the (k)ubuntu ones 01:08
l3mhehe01:08
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l3m!nvidia01:08
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:08
l3malternatively, you can roll your own drivers using m-a: sudo m-a a-i nvidia. you need module-assistant installed though01:09
Kiseonikhmm01:09
Kiseonikwould it hurt much to install the official driver package though?01:10
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TROGDOR42ati's fglrx doesn't help at all.01:10
l3mKiseonik: no, but it doesn't get you anything 01:11
l3mKiseonik: why do you want to install the official drivers? 01:12
KiseonikWhat do you mean it doesn't get you anything?01:12
KiseonikWhy not?01:12
l3mKiseonik: it's the same driver01:12
l3midentical byte by byte01:12
l3mit's just differently ( more conveniently ) packaged if you use apt-get 01:12
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KiseonikIs it more convinient because you could issue one command and it will be installed?01:13
l3mexactly01:13
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l3mKiseonik: and also uninstalled01:13
KiseonikWhy would I want to uninstall the drivers? :D01:13
l3mKiseonik: new drivers? new kernel? 01:14
Kiseonikdoes it also patch the broken glxext.h?01:14
KiseonikNew kernel, reinstall driver :)01:14
l3mKiseonik: well, if you use the official packages it should update the driver automatically, since it will just installed the updated linux-modules-restricted as wsell01:15
KiseonikWhat is linux-modules-restricted?01:15
TROGDOR42Does it bother anybody else that Firefox doesn't come with Kubuntu?01:15
l3mKiseonik: the package which includes the nvidia driver01:16
KiseonikTROGDOR42: you can just install it later on...01:16
l3mTROGDOR42: no. Konqueror is way better than firefox anyway ;)01:16
l3mTROGDOR42: and if you still want it it takes 20 seconds to install it01:16
TROGDOR42I installed it later01:16
KiseonikWhy is that package 'restricted'?01:17
TROGDOR42But Konqueror doesn't have extensions... and I'm used to Firefox01:17
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l3mKiseonik: licensing.. nvidia uses a closed source kernel module01:17
l3mbinary kernel module01:17
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KiseonikI am aware of that fact. Does this package also include other drivers?01:18
l3mKiseonik: i think, i'm not sure though01:18
l3mbut i guess they'd have called it differently were nvidia the only module01:18
l3m;)01:18
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KiseonikThat's what I thought too.01:19
KiseonikAnyway, what I'd love to know is, is there a way to install kubuntu in a loop-mounted filesystem.01:20
TROGDOR42Ehh.. what's a loop-mounted filesystem?01:20
TROGDOR42Ah, actually it looks like UbuntuGuide.org has that01:21
TROGDOR42It says Ubuntu but it works in Kubuntu too, like most other stuff on there01:22
KiseonikI can't find anything relevant on there01:24
TROGDOR42You can't?01:24
Kiseoniknope01:24
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TROGDOR42This isn't it: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning01:24
Kiseonikyes, and that's not what I'm looking for01:25
TROGDOR42Ah, never mind.01:26
KiseonikI'm trying to install Kubuntu ;)01:26
TROGDOR42Yeah, just use a different file01:26
TROGDOR42The Kubuntu ISO01:26
TROGDOR42What OS are you in now?01:26
Kiseoniklinux01:26
TROGDOR42What distro?01:27
KiseonikSlackware01:27
TROGDOR42I've always wondered how slackware is...01:28
TROGDOR42It doesn't have any GUI update stuff, right?01:28
TROGDOR42I don't see the point of that01:28
Kiseonikit does01:28
TROGDOR42It does?01:28
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TROGDOR42How many discs does it need?01:28
Kiseonikthere's a QT frontend to slapt-get01:28
Kiseonik2, but there are 2 source disks01:29
TROGDOR42How many discs to install Slackware?01:29
TROGDOR42So that's 4?01:29
Kiseonik201:29
TROGDOR42huh?01:29
TROGDOR42what do you mean Source Disks?01:29
Kiseonikinstall disk 1, install disk 201:29
Kiseonikdisk 3 and 4 are just the disks with some extras and source tarballs01:29
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TROGDOR42Can you just get those over the network?01:30
TROGDOR42Like a network update kind of thing?01:30
KiseonikYes, you can get the disk images via BitTorrent, http and ftp.01:30
Kiseonikyou can even buy the disks.01:30
TROGDOR42No, I mean like... at the end of the installation just download the stuff on the extra disks instead of burning?01:31
Kiseonikyou can install it if you have the packages on an nfs server01:31
TROGDOR42Oh01:31
TROGDOR42Ok, thanks01:32
Kiseonikyou have slapt-get and swaret for that. plus just browse websites and download.01:32
TROGDOR42Ok.  thanks!01:32
Kiseonikslapt-get is kinda like apt-get01:32
TROGDOR42Ah01:32
TROGDOR42Is Slackware any faster than other distros, like say SUSE or Mandriva, or Kubuntu?01:32
Kiseonik:O01:33
ljlwould would "faster" mean in this context01:33
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Kiseonikfaster? Well, yes. Install Kubuntu on a 400MHZ and slakcware on 2GHz01:33
TROGDOR42Like, boot-up time and load-time for programs01:33
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martinhaha01:33
Kiseonik:)01:33
TROGDOR42lol01:33
ljli don't think you'll find any significant difference in programs load-time between distributions01:33
DjDarkmanhy how do i set my pc to shutdown after a given time?01:34
ljlas for boot time, i don't think it's a reasonable criterion01:34
TROGDOR42I have a 3GHz (this comp) and a 451 laptop01:34
ljlDjDarkman: see /etc/crontab01:34
KiseonikI got my slackware to boot in 45 seconds01:34
TROGDOR42nice01:34
Kiseonikbut it took too long01:34
ljlDjDarkman: or, just type "sleep <number-of-seconds>; halt" in a root shell :)01:34
Kiseoniksince my kernel has to do a SCSI reset on bootup01:34
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DjDarkmank 10x01:35
TROGDOR42Somehow GRUB made my windows skip the loading screen and go to the login screen01:35
martinfreedos is a damn fast OS ;)01:35
TROGDOR42I think that's what happened anyway01:35
TROGDOR42Did that happen to anybody else?01:35
TROGDOR42Windows suddenly loading fast...?01:36
ljlhmm not sure he realized it was number of *seconds* :)01:36
KiseonikI used http://www.bootchart.org/ to see how long the system boots01:36
ljlinteresting tool01:36
apokryphosTROGDOR42: you must be delusional01:36
ljlme, i'd rather not care about boottime and have a decent hibernation mode01:36
Kiseoniktbh, I don't care about boottime nor hibernaton mode01:37
KiseonikI heard about the tool and was curious01:37
TROGDOR42lol, that's what happened! Windows just skips the annoying boot screen where the blue stuff goes across the screen01:37
KiseonikMade a few nice looking graphs.01:37
ljli do care about how long i need to wait before getting to type my password01:37
ljlbut "standard" boot isn't the answer to that problem01:37
KiseonikI take it you have a laptop :)01:37
ljlno, i don't01:38
Kiseonikahh01:38
ljlbut i don't leave my computer on all the time01:38
KiseonikNeither do i01:38
TROGDOR42I hear some people do, that's gotta make a big electric bill01:38
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Kiseonikindeed01:38
ljlwell, *i* do, actually01:38
ljlbut not *this* computer01:38
ljlmy debian box is always on01:39
Kiseonikrouter?01:39
ljlsort of01:39
Kiseonikahh01:39
ljlit's a bit of my "do everything" server01:39
TROGDOR42Debian somehow decided I wanted to install kernel 2.4 and both my computers hate 2.4.01:39
KiseonikI left 2.4 years ago :)01:39
ljland i can leave it on during the night, as it's not in my room and as such doesn't disturb me01:39
ljli've switched to 2.6 some months ago on my debian01:40
KiseonikThe whine of the case and psu fans is sweet sweet music :D01:40
ljlfans? what fans? :)01:40
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TROGDOR42I don't know, maybe I just checked the wrong box in the install or something01:40
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ljli'm running it underclocked with no fans ;)01:40
Kiseonikhah01:40
ljl300MHz instead of 350MHz01:41
Kiseonik:O01:41
TROGDOR42Underclocked? I didn't know there was such thing... Never really thought about it though.01:41
TROGDOR42Why would you underclock?01:41
ljlbecause fans fail? :)01:41
ljland i don't want to be waken up by an alarm at 5 am? ;)01:41
carlos_unetgreetings from Venezuela 01:41
TROGDOR42Venezuela.  That's far.01:41
ljldepends, i guess01:42
KiseonikI'm intruiged, how long does a 300MHz box take to boot :))01:42
ljli suppose it's near venezuela at the very least01:42
Hobbseegreetings from Australia01:42
TROGDOR42Australia... even further.01:42
Hobbseeyeah01:42
Hobbseeand raining01:42
Hobbseebleck01:42
ljlKiseonik: don't really know... it takes a long time lately, but i'm sure there's something timing out during boot... don't have a monitor, and never look at the logs ;)01:42
KiseonikI hope for snow!01:42
Hobbseeheh...snow...none of that here, but further south there is...01:43
TROGDOR42lol I got snow this morning and hated it.01:43
Kiseonikhehe01:43
ljlKiseonik: anyway, it's quite bearable. that box was actually my main box until like 4-5 months ago (when my debian box was a 166MHz)01:43
ljl"no snow there, but further south there is" <-- now that's a sentence that sounds weird to a northern-emispherian :)01:43
Kiseonikand to think my sister was complaining that her 1.4GHz athlon was slow...01:43
TROGDOR42Yeah01:44
Kiseoniklol, true ljl 01:44
ljl(although, actually, there *is* snow in the south here while there is none in the north, but anyway)01:44
TROGDOR42Snow is overrated01:44
KiseonikSnow is squishy!01:44
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TROGDOR42Unless it's that powdery kind.  That stuff is weird01:45
Hobbseeljl: hehe...it does01:45
carlos_unethey ppl, have u tryed automatix?01:45
Hobbsee!automatix01:45
ubotuautomatix is probably an application that automatically installs many popular programs, particularly the proprietary formats that don't ship with most distros by default. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656301:45
TROGDOR42No...01:45
Hobbseenalioth: <carlos_unet> hey ppl, have u tryed automatix?01:45
Hobbseecarlos_unet: nalioth knows a lot about it01:46
carlos_unetThx ppl! damn usefull!01:47
carlos_unetefficient!01:47
TROGDOR42Well, I should be rebooting now.01:48
naliothHobbsee: automatix can break ubuntu01:48
TROGDOR42Been using Windows for too long, needed to use Photoshop.01:48
Hobbseetell carlos_unet that01:48
Hobbseei wasnt the one who asked :)01:48
KiseonikI want to install Kubuntu :|01:49
HobbseeKiseonik: yep01:49
ljlis there a script in kubuntu to make colds go away?01:50
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Hobbseehehe...i wish01:50
Kiseonikcolds?01:51
ljland then what about flu? i'd need one that does01:51
ljlautohealthix01:51
Kiseonik"Send a flushot." "Rabbit, flushot, someone talk to me!"01:51
Hobbseeljl: apt-get moo01:51
ljlHobbsee: i use aptitude, which doesn't have super cow powers ;P01:51
Hobbseeah yes, but that has easter eggs too...01:51
Hobbsee:P01:52
Hobbseeyou dont want super cow powers?01:52
ljlno, but mad cow powers would do01:52
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TROGDOR42You needn't fear, for I am back!01:52
ljlhah, nice, the aptitude egg01:52
Hobbseehehe yeah01:53
TROGDOR42And, as a bonus, I'm in Linux!01:53
Hobbseewoohoo!01:53
Kiseonik:)01:53
TROGDOR42:-D01:53
HobbseeKiseonik: when will you install kubuntu?01:53
KiseonikI'm not even sure its possible :(01:54
TROGDOR42You don't have a cd burner/CDs?01:54
ljlljl@ljlbox:~$ aptitude [etc]      What is it?  It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course.01:54
Kiseoniklol01:54
ljlnow, i don't see why one wouldn't *use* such a program and prefer apt-get instead01:54
Hobbseehehe yeah01:54
KiseonikI have image, i have burner, i have cds and I have a cd burnt already01:54
TROGDOR42So... Why can't you install?01:54
Hobbseei prefer apt-get as well - although if i want the dependancies for something removed, then, and only then, will i use aptitude01:55
KiseonikI have nowhere to install it to :(01:55
ljlHobbsee: but you've gotta know in advance01:55
binusDoes anybody know how to do NAT in shorewall, i was tried to configure it via webmin, but i am stuck :(  yesterday i tried configure via iptables and it doesn't work too :( does anyone have the script to easily configure it?01:55
ljlHobbsee: otherwise, aptitude will have no clue, if the stuff you want removed was installed with apt-get...01:55
Hobbseeljl: what the dependancies are?  aptitude already knows what they are01:55
Hobbseemmm....maybe01:55
Hobbseeoh well lol01:55
ljlHobbsee: yeah but it doesn't know whether they were installed automatically01:55
Hobbseeprobably true01:55
ljli use apt-get on my debian box, 'cause aptitude is *slow* there01:56
ljlbut here i don't need that couple of seconds saved :)01:56
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naliothljl: aptitude can run checksums against all the installed programs 01:57
TROGDOR42Anybody know if Kopete is better than Gaim?01:57
ljlnalioth: nice, an anti-rootkit thing i suppose?01:58
ljlTROGDOR42: no, but emacs is definitely much better than vi01:58
Hobbseei prefer kopete over gaim01:58
Kiseoniklol01:58
naliothljl: wrong word. aptitude can check the depends of all the programs it has been asked to work with01:58
TROGDOR42ljl:what does vi vs Emacs have to do with anything?01:58
Kiseonikflamebait? :)01:59
Hobbseehehe01:59
ljlTROGDOR42: if you have to ask, you will never know :)01:59
Hobbsee!start an editor war01:59
ubotugedit is better than xemacs.01:59
Kiseoniklol01:59
ljlactually nano is better than both01:59
Hobbseei prefer nano as well01:59
TROGDOR42lol01:59
KiseonikI've used pico \o/01:59
TROGDOR42yay nano!01:59
ljlKiseonik: me too01:59
Hobbseeor kwrite, if i really want to wait for another program to open02:00
Kiseonikkwrite is awesome02:00
Kiseonikso is vim in the compatibility mode02:00
ljlHobbsee: in that case, you should use MS Word inside Wine, as trappist has instructed us yesterday02:00
Hobbseeugh!02:00
Kiseonikhaha02:00
Hobbseeif i want ms word, i'll boot to windows!02:00
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TROGDOR42Who would want to PAY for office software!?02:01
Hobbseewhich reminds me, i'll probably have to boot to that miserable crashing operating system today anyway, to print something02:01
TROGDOR42:(02:01
vittorio!w32codecs02:01
ubotuI guess w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/02:01
ljlthe only problem is that it will turn your "creat"s into "create", i suppose, but you can disable auto-spelling02:01
Hobbseeoffice 97 was a nice office suite...02:01
ljlHobbsee: can't print from linux?02:01
TROGDOR42He said his laserjet won't work02:02
Kiseonikw32codecs for mplayer?02:02
Hobbseeljl: my printer is a pain in the neck...02:02
ljlthat'c uncool02:02
HobbseeTROGDOR42: you rememeber back that far?  and it's a deskjet 500, and i'm female02:02
TROGDOR42Ah, sorry02:02
Hobbseeso you're 1/3 right lol02:02
Hobbseeno problems02:02
binusthe problem of this shorewall setting, i can ping router from client of this kubuntu, but i can't ping internet :(02:02
ljlHobbsee: but, linuxprinting says that printer's supported "perfectly"02:03
Hobbseeljl: i might just end up printing to the computer connected via SMB in the other room02:03
Hobbseeyeah, exactly, pity my machine never seems to find it02:03
TROGDOR42CUPS freezes whenever I try to configure my printer02:03
TROGDOR42It worked once, but I changed a setting and it flipped out02:03
Hobbseeeek02:03
ljlthere's an easy solution, don't print ;) who needs stuff inked on a roll of tree?02:04
Hobbseewell, for street directions, i will02:04
Hobbseeunless i manually write them down02:04
ljlhmm i've got a gps for that ;)02:05
Hobbseemmm...i wish02:05
ljli paid it 10002:05
ljli mean, the pda *and* the gps receiver02:05
TROGDOR42wow02:05
ljlboth from ebay, and a pda with barely sufficient hardware... but it works. sometimes.02:05
TROGDOR42*googles how much 100 euros is in USD*02:05
Hobbseehehe...sometimes02:05
HobbseeTROGDOR42: in $au while you're at it, please!02:06
TROGDOR42lol02:06
ljlTROGDOR42: aaag stop this people,  = $! :-P02:06
ljlone euro is about 1.20 dollars02:06
TROGDOR42100 Euros = 118 U.S. dollars02:06
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TROGDOR42100 Euros = 159.978308 Australian dollars02:06
Hobbseenice!02:06
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Hobbseethanks TROGDOR42 02:06
TROGDOR42Yay google!02:06
Hobbseehehe02:06
ljlHobbsee: hmm i would buy it, if it were not for the "08"02:07
Hobbseehttp://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html is a good converter - took me a bit to find it though...02:07
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Hobbseefor the 08?02:07
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TROGDOR42All's you gots to do is type in "XXX currency A in Currency B" and it does it for you.02:07
Hobbseetrue02:07
ljlHobbsee: for the last two digits for the australian dollars figure :)02:07
ljlinstall qalculate, guys02:08
Hobbseeoh, right, yeah02:08
ljlit's actually only packaged for Gnome, but the KDE version compiles a charm02:08
ljl(i've made a backports request anyway)02:08
ljlcool calculator, small embedded algebra system, and kitchen sync too02:09
TROGDOR42kitchen sync?02:09
TROGDOR42Ok where can I find this qalculate of yours? It's not in adept.02:09
ljlwould you even look at a program that doesn't have a kitchen sync included?02:09
ljlactually, it is02:09
ljlit's in universe02:09
Hobbsee!info qalculate02:09
ubotuqalculate: (Powerful and easy to use desktop calculator), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.7.2-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 935 kB, Installed size: 2612 kB02:10
Hobbseeyeah, it's there in apt-get02:10
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ljl!info qalc02:10
ubotuqalc: (Powerful and easy to use command line calculator), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.7.2-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 791 kB, Installed size: 2904 kB02:10
TROGDOR42Ok02:10
ljland then there's "qalculate-kde", which is in Debian unstable and in Dapper, but currently not in Breezy's backports02:10
TROGDOR42Ahh, i screwed up my apt-get02:10
Hobbseeah...02:11
Hobbseei was wondering if there was a kde version02:11
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KnowerrorsIm building a custom kernel using a different config from og Ubuntu, can anyone tell me what parts are needed in kernel config to fully support iptables?02:11
ljlHobbsee: yeah, i compiled it easily02:11
Hobbseecool02:11
TROGDOR42whenever I do apt-get install something it says: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:12
ljlTROGDOR42: you have adept open02:13
TROGDOR42I closed it... Didnt work02:13
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TROGDOR42same error02:13
ljlTROGDOR42: then you're not root02:13
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ljlTROGDOR42: "sudo apt-get ...."02:13
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TROGDOR42Ah, thanks.02:13
Hobbseeoops...02:14
Hobbseewhat'd i miss?02:14
Hobbsee!compile02:14
ubotuI guess compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>02:14
ljlTROGDOR42 not knowing that he needs sudo for apt-get ;)02:14
TROGDOR42Yeah yeah, I'm a Linux n00b, so what?02:14
ljl!autodeb02:14
TROGDOR42;)02:14
ubotu[autodeb]  an EXPERIMENTAL program to automate building (configure, compile, install) of source tarballs. It's based on !CheckInstall and !AutoApt, and can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Autodeb02:14
ljl:)02:14
Hobbseeright...i never remember the order lol02:14
TROGDOR42I've only been using Linux for a few months.02:14
Hobbseeljl: you want me to try that?02:14
TROGDOR42I'd like to try that myself02:15
ljlHobbsee: heh if you want! but hold on, i'm uploading a newer version02:15
ljlworks much faster02:15
Hobbseeok02:15
Hobbseebah...i think i should learn to do it manually lol02:15
TROGDOR42Yeah, I should too02:15
TROGDOR42I only use stuff I can apt-get02:16
HobbseeTROGDOR42: i can probably send you a deb of it lol02:16
ljlHobbsee: there isn't much to learn... as ubotu said, tar, cd, configure, make, make install (or checkinstall)02:16
Hobbseethe one that i'm about to create02:16
ljlHobbsee: the rest is all hunting for dependencies02:16
Hobbseeyeah, i know - i just never remember the order02:16
Hobbseetrue02:16
Hobbseedammit02:17
KnowerrorsHobbsee: any help on the iptables info in kernel config please?  I no longer have my original ubu kernel config to refer to02:18
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TROGDOR42Why does it say "This APT has Super Cow Powers" when you type apt-get in the terminal?02:18
HobbseeKnowerrors: got no idea, if you can point me to a config file, i can paste mine for you...02:18
HobbseeTROGDOR42: an easter egg...02:18
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TROGDOR42Ah.02:18
Hobbseetrying ./configure again lol02:19
Hobbseechecking for CLN - version >= 1.1.0... no02:19
Hobbsee*** Could not run CLN test program, checking why...02:19
Hobbsee*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the02:19
Hobbsee*** exact error that occured. This usually means CLN was incorrectly installed02:19
Hobbsee*** or that you have moved CLN since it was installed. In the latter case, you02:19
Hobbsee*** may want to edit the cln-config script: /usr/bin/cln-config.02:19
ljlok, new autodeb uploaded, try it if you want, with some due care (tho i don't think it'll do anything too bad, just don't interrupt it while it's installing packages)02:19
ljlyou need libcln-dev or something02:20
Hobbseei just got that...02:20
ljloh, you need to compile libqalculate too, by the way (it's written on the site, but you might not know if you got a source .deb or something...)02:21
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Hobbseehah02:21
Hobbseeso i should try that first...02:21
ljlyeah02:21
TROGDOR42Anybody know how to get an IntelliMouse's extra 2 buttons to work?02:21
TROGDOR42Linux somehow thinks one of them is an extra scroll-wheel click and the other is a right click.02:22
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ljldunno, i've got a quite standard mouse02:22
TROGDOR42Anybody?02:24
ljlHobbsee: anyway, i suggest that you do try auto-apt, even if you don't try autodeb... it will get your dependencies for you while you configure -- even though it will ask about a *lot* of dependencies that aren't really needed, you must learn to learn which ones are the real ones02:24
ljl(for example, DECNet services and Fortran compilers most probably *aren't* it ;)02:24
Hobbseemmm02:25
Hobbseelol02:25
ljlalso, don't forget to use "checkinstall" instead of "make install". that way you'll be able to remove the installed stuff at any time02:25
Hobbseeyeah, was already going to do that02:26
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ljlone of the things that my autodeb tries to do is to avoid those stupid auto-apt dependencies02:26
Hobbseechecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool02:26
Hobbseeall right, where's this autodeb lol?02:26
Hobbsee!autodeb02:26
ubotuautodeb is, like, totally, an EXPERIMENTAL program to automate building (configure, compile, install) of source tarballs. It's based on !CheckInstall and !AutoApt, and can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Autodeb02:26
ljlbasically, autodeb lets ./configure fail, and then only cares about the *last* missing dependency before it failed -- that way, it'll take longer, but you won't have fortran compilers installed =)02:26
Hobbseeljl: you said there was a newer versoin?02:27
ljlyes, but it's there, i've just uploaded it02:28
Hobbseeok, cool02:28
ljlthe site hasn't changed, but it's there02:28
ljli wasn't actually going to upload it until later (there's still one missing feature i'd like), but anyway02:28
ljl(namely, the missing feature is installing the *runtime* dependencies the program needs, and listing them in the generated .deb package)02:28
ljlbut i'm having some problems with spurious dependencies currently02:29
Hobbseeah ok02:29
TROGDOR42!info Cygwin02:29
TROGDOR42Mmm, crap02:30
ljlHobbsee: even though it doesn't install them, it will list them anyway, so you'll have an idea what needs to be installed for the program to run02:30
KnowerrorsHobsee: finally figured out how to get your kernel .config ...02:30
KnowerrorsType "uname -r" at konsole02:30
naliothTROGDOR42: cygwin is a WINDOWS program02:30
TROGDOR42Yeah02:31
TROGDOR42But it's Linux related, figured it might work.02:31
Knowerrorsthen sudo cp /boot/config-"kernel name" .config02:31
ljl"!info" only lists packages that are in the Ubuntu repositories02:31
TROGDOR42Got it.02:31
KnowerrorsHobbsee: then dcc me the .config , Gratzie :)02:31
TROGDOR42BRB I gotta find a CD to burn Klax on.02:31
TROGDOR42BRB!02:32
Knowerrorsnalioth, you ever build a custome kernel on ubuntu?02:32
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naliothKnowerrors: i do not deal with the kernel02:32
TROGDOR42Back!02:34
Hobbseeljl: i have to untar the file first?02:34
Knowerrorsnalioth: Ive learned alot doing kernel compiles, done about 4 on ubuntu, and 6 or so on debian, got my system runnin faster and better hardware support02:35
ljlHobbsee: no02:36
Hobbseeok, cool02:36
ljlHobbsee: the site says you have to, but in the new version you don't need to02:36
HobbseeKnowerrors: ok, grabbing that02:36
ljlHobbsee: only, look in your /tmp/ dir after you're finished, 'cause i'm not deleting many files i create there02:36
Hobbseeljl: right..02:38
HobbseeKnowerrors: dcc'ing the file, not sure if i allow that though...02:38
Knowerrorsit failed :(02:38
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HobbseeKnowerrors: how's this?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/502302:39
Hobbseeljl: no configure script02:40
ljlHobbsee: if you've never run auto-apt before, it will take some longish time to create the database... but it's a database worth having anyway02:40
Hobbseeyeah, did that02:40
ljlHobbsee: hm? check that it hasn't removed your qalculate source dir02:41
ljlHobbsee: i thought i'd commented that out, but02:41
Hobbseedoing the libqalculate02:41
Hobbseefirst02:41
ljlHobbsee: have you run it using the .tar.gz or the directory, in the end?02:41
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ljlHobbsee: check what's in autodeb-libqalculate-something/autodeb-configure.log02:42
ljlno don't do it, that's no use02:43
Hobbseeah, absolutely nothing02:43
Hobbseeboth dont work - same error02:43
ljlnot a kind of error i'd have been expecting...02:44
Hobbseeyou want the full error?02:44
ljlno, i know it02:44
ljlNo configure script was found. Your program may have to be configured in non-standard ways.02:45
Hobbseeljl: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5024 for the entire thing02:45
Hobbsee:)02:45
naliothljl: does auto-apt get perl modules?02:45
ljlnalioth: if configure checks for their presence, then yeah02:45
KnowerrorsHobbsee: that helped, thx, pouring over it now02:45
Kiseonikwell02:46
ljlnalioth: if they're only looked for when you first run the perl program, then use auto-apt when running the perl program02:46
Kiseoniki'm gonna try to install kubuntu soon02:46
naliothljl: unfortunately, quite a lot of perl modules aren't available in the repos02:46
ljlHobbsee: oh, wait, you've used the wrong parameters ;)02:46
ljlnalioth: in that case, auto-apt won't be able to do a thing...02:46
TROGDOR42Good luck, Kiseonik.02:46
Kiseonikthanks :)02:46
Kiseonikbyeeee02:46
ljlHobbsee: you must "./autodeb.sh whatever.tar.gz"02:47
Hobbseeah....02:47
ljlHobbsee: and then, when it asks for the package name, just type "libqalculate"02:47
ljlHobbsee: (or accept the default, if it's reasonable)02:47
Hobbseeah...i see lol02:47
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Hobbseeljl: sudo sh ./autodeb.sh libqalculate-0.9.0.tar.gz02:48
ljlnalioth: but, i believe there was some kind of perl-module-auto-fetcher... never been into perl, so i don't really remember, but02:48
ljlHobbsee: no don't sudo02:48
Hobbseehave to - otherwise it wont let you02:49
ljlHobbsee: i guess you haven't marked it as executable -- "chmod +x ./autodeb.sh"02:49
ljland then just "./autodeb.sh libqalculate-0.9.0.tar.gz"02:49
Hobbseehehe - you'd be right02:49
Hobbseeyou couldnt have told me that earlier lol?  i didnt see that in the wiki...02:49
ljlHobbsee: i'll add it... but it ain't something specific to my script, it's valid for every file you intend to execute in linux ;)02:50
Hobbseemmm...true02:50
Hobbseei thought .sh scrips were automatically executable02:50
ljlHobbsee: it's just that, when the file is .tar'ed (or .deb'ed), the permissions will be set automatically by tar or dpkg02:50
KnowerrorsHobbsee: weird, that page I went to for the paste has terrible font problems on Firefox, but Konq is fine02:51
Hobbseeyou're speaking to linux newbies here - compiling newbies, anyway02:51
ljlno, they aren't... the first line ( "#!/bin/sh" ) specifies that they are shell scripts, but they're not executable until you tell them to be02:51
Hobbseeah ok02:51
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Hobbseeto see this program, why the heck didnt i just boot to dapper?02:51
naliothljl: yes, i'm trying to help Hobbsee with it in #kubuntu-offtopic 02:52
ljlif you type "sh autodeb.sh", it will execute it even if it is *not* executable, because in that case it's simply used as a parameter to "sh"02:52
Hobbseeah...yes, that's how i did it earlier, i remember now02:52
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TROGDOR42Wow, this is dead.03:08
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naliothstep lively03:09
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yannzIs it possible to use debian packages in kubuntu?03:11
TROGDOR42Not... really03:11
Blissexyannz: yes, sure it is not totally obvious though which ones...03:11
TROGDOR42Yeah03:11
Blissexyannz: so it is something only if you really understand the dependency system.03:12
Blissexyannz: the only easy thing is this: Debian Sarge is almost completely compatible with Hoary. The situation with Breezy is however a bit more complicated.03:12
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TROGDOR42Hoary doesn't like my computer, so I have no choice but to use Breezy03:13
yannzah, ok.03:13
yannzi really just want quakeforge in. .. =)03:13
yannzthere is a repository for debian, but I haven't found any for kubuntu (and yes, i use breezy)03:13
connhi, when I try to use a resolution of 1280x1024 or greater, glxgears, glxinfo etc. give segfaults. I think it's a problem with the r128 driver, can someone help?03:14
naliothyannz: please dont use debain pkgs, they can break your ubuntu03:15
TROGDOR42Alien works doesn't it?03:15
yannznalioth, ok. promise. =)03:15
naliothTROGDOR42: it is advised not to install ANY non ubuntu binary pkgs03:15
TROGDOR42Tarballs work though, right?03:15
naliothTROGDOR42: compiling ones own files (provided they arent in the repos) and using checkinstall is the most useful way, yes03:17
TROGDOR42Ok, thanks.03:17
Blissexyannz: Quakeforge from etc/sid should be OK with Breezy...03:18
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Blissexyannz: or actually, download the Debian source deb and recompile it under Breezy.03:19
naliothyannz: you can put debian SOURCE repos in your sources.list and have your apt-get build debian packages safely for you03:20
yannzoh, clever.03:20
TROGDOR42I'm getting tired.  But I refuse to go to bed unless somebody with authority tells me to, that's for n00bs.03:24
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naliothTROGDOR42: take your skunk-sack-sharing-arse to bed03:25
TROGDOR42I said with authority ;)03:25
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fevoldj2hi03:25
TROGDOR42Hi.03:25
naliothwhat kind of authority do you want?03:26
fevoldj2Why is the php5-mcrypt module missing from the repositories?03:26
fevoldj2I am having trouble finding it.03:26
TROGDOR42Maybe, say, my mom's03:26
naliothah, external authority over the power plug03:26
TROGDOR42Yeah03:27
TROGDOR42Only lack of electricity will enable me to sleep.03:28
TROGDOR42Hey what's the command to untar something? like... "tar -somelettershere"  what are those letters...?03:30
ljltar -x -f filename03:31
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TROGDOR42Ok03:31
ljlor tar -z -x -f filename.tar.gz, as a handy shortcut03:31
yannz=}03:32
yannzhandy.03:32
yannztar zxvf filename.tar.gz could be even more handy.03:32
ljland very non-conformant to parameter conventions ;)03:33
ljlgive hypens what belong to hypens03:33
yannztar is the rebel.03:34
TROGDOR42lol03:34
ljlwell ar and unrar do about the same03:34
yannzbut really, you could say tar -zxvf some.. 03:34
yannz:)03:34
ljl(and lha too, i guess... don't remember using it on linux, but i suppose the syntax is the same as on amigaos)03:34
ljlyeah, not sure that would be conformant either though, unless you take "-zxvf" as a single option -- in which case, the man page should list all the possible combinations ;)03:35
naliothTROGDOR42: you can use tar xvzf or xvjf (bzip2) no need for all the - signes03:35
TROGDOR42Ok03:35
ljlTROGDOR42: not if you want my personal deity to drop a tremendous spell on you, though, no03:36
TROGDOR42Don't worry ljl, i'm using the -'s03:36
ljl;)03:36
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_SparkyEvening all..03:52
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brownie17hey, how do i change text size and stuff03:56
brownie17anyone here helping people?03:57
brownie17this is easy03:57
brownie17damnit, someone help me04:00
ClayGSiup04:00
ClayGsup04:00
ClayGText size on what? Like your desktop and everything in general?04:00
brownie17hi04:00
brownie17yeahj04:00
ClayGask in the screen size/ resolution?04:00
brownie17if possibl04:00
brownie17e04:00
ClayGheh same thing pisses me off, seems like I could barely read it was so small04:01
brownie17mines massive!04:01
brownie17:o04:01
ClayGDo you want to change the screen size / resolution ? Or just the actual fonts (icons and everything else would remain the same)?04:01
brownie17fonts] 04:01
brownie17please04:01
brownie17do you know?04:01
ClayGsystem>preferences>fonts04:03
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brownie17theres no preferences optino04:06
brownie17ClayG, why is there no preferences option?04:07
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KnowerrorsHey all, just installed firestarter, which installed gksu, and now synaptic won't start up, any ideas?04:10
ClayGI think it's because I'm looking in gnome04:11
ClayGlol04:11
ClayGgive me a minuute04:11
Knowerrorsadept won't start up now either04:11
ClayGlemme get into kde brb04:11
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Knowerrorsadept won't run, or synaptic04:23
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Knowerrorsadept: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN15KCo                                           nfigSkeleton9ItemInt6411setPropertyERK8QFariant04:23
Knowerrorsany ideas on what happened here?04:24
troysomething got borked - can you run aptitude?04:24
Knowerrorsno04:24
Knowerrorscan't run synaptic or adept, but apt works fine04:24
KnowerrorsI don't have aptitude, I think, is that a cli or gui?04:27
troywhat does this give you $ldd /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 | grep qt04:27
troyaptitude is cli04:27
KnowerrorsI installed kde headers and related depends a couple hours ago...04:28
Knowerrorslibqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0xb7239000)04:28
Knowerrorsis what that command gives me04:28
Knowerrorsand Aptitude works fine04:29
naliothKnowerrors: have you installed opera or skype or some other non ubuntu pkg?04:29
Knowerrorsnope, not recently04:29
naliothwell, it doesnt have to be recent, to be screwing you04:30
troythis is going beyond my knowledge of debian... /me runs and hides behind freebsd ports04:30
KnowerrorsSynaptic was working fine up until about an hour ago04:30
KnowerrorsI installed Firestarter, as well as kdelibs and kdeheaders and such, I was going to build ksmoothdock and needed those04:31
Knowerrorsthx for listening troy :)04:31
KnowerrorsIm afraid maybe I installed kdelibs/headers for kde3.5 without realizin it, as I had backports/extras/plf turned on04:32
Knowerrorsbut don't know for sure, don't think I did that stupid of a thing04:33
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Knowerrorswhoa, got synaptic working by typing sudo synaptic at comman line04:34
troysynaptic should not be affected by broken kde, it uses gtk afaik04:34
troyKnowerrors: what do you get for kde version when you do, for example: $kstart -v04:35
Knowerrorsbut adept still won't work with sudo adept04:35
Knowerrorsor kdesu apdept04:35
troyor $ kde-config --version04:35
Knowerrorskstart: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN15KConfigSkeleton9ItemInt6411setPropertyERK8QFariant04:36
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Knowerrorssudo synaptic works, but gksu synaptic or kdesu synaptic won't work04:37
troydoes  /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3  exist?04:38
troyso much for that... :P04:39
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Knowerrorsthx troy04:40
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naliothKnowerrors: use the command line and "sudo apt-get install --reinstall adept"04:45
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Knowerrorsok, what about synaptic?  (only) way I can launch that is cli sudo synaptic...04:46
Knowerrorsand qtparted won't launch either04:48
ClayGnalioth, what is the command to download file.r00-file.r99 on thissite.com using username : user and password : password?04:50
ClayGin cli?04:50
davethewaveis there a repository list out there that has many many pre-added software links? like wine, ndiswrapper, firefox etc.. all pre-made so I can be lazy and not edit my sources list?04:50
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KnowerrorsClayG: wget url or file... don't know about the username/pass, try man wget04:53
KnowerrorsI mean wget url of file04:54
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Bicchii need a version of a program that was build a few weeks ago and the one that ubuntu has on the repositories is from a few months ago. Do i have to wait until the next releaes of ubuntu to get a newer version of the program?04:55
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thompahi!, how can i switch back to kdm?05:06
thompacan i just uninstall gdm?05:08
thompa!kdm05:08
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, thompa05:08
thompafound it05:09
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masterlokican someone tell me howto set my own lP (i.e. not via DHCP)?05:10
nalioththompa: open a konsole and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and choose the one you want05:10
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davethewavemy clock says 20, isnt there only 12, then it starts all over?05:11
naliothdavethewave: 2359 is the top number05:11
kkathmandavethewave: yer probably set to military time05:11
naliothdavethewave: that's 11:59 pm05:12
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thompathanks i foundit05:13
thompai like kde more, there are more configuration tools like for sound, gnome seems to have little05:13
naliothnight05:14
kkathmannight nalioth_zZz :)05:14
thompathanks nalioth05:15
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MoSiAci've been having some troble with networking and i was wondering if anyone is available to help me run through some quick things 05:16
kkathmanMoSiAc: what kinds of trouble?05:17
MoSiAcwell my wired and wireless connections start off disabled, and when i try to enable them it enables them for about a second and then redisables them05:17
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kkathmanhmm05:17
kkathmanprobably LeeJunFan can help you with that, I cant05:17
kkathmanother than just checking the obvious things05:18
MoSiAcand its gotten to the point when i try to enter admin mode to change a setting i put in my password but it doesn't let me in anymore05:18
LeeJunFanWhat did I just walk into?05:18
MoSiAci'm having what should be a simple network issue but seems to be a big problem and i don't know why heh05:18
kkathmannothing LeeJunFan  someone needs some help with their network05:18
MoSiAci've been reading the forums to try and figure something out but so far nothing has really worked for me05:19
kkathmanMoSiAc: I take it that you have checked the eth0 and all that05:19
MoSiAcyeah 05:19
LeeJunFanMoSiAc: can you re-explain your symptoms - for me?05:20
MoSiAcsure, i just installed kubuntu and i've been trying to get either wired or wireless acess working, i assumed that i would have some beginning trouble with wireless so i've been trying to get wired up but both my wired and wirless connections are disabled and when i orinigally tried to enable them the wireless one would activate momentariy and then disable again, now its at the point where when i try to click the administer button and put in 05:22
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LeeJunFanDid you wired not get setup during install?05:25
MoSiAcnope05:25
MoSiAcits strange because when i installed ubuntu before it did but not kubuntu05:25
kkathmanMoSiAc: if you just installed kubuntu.... you may need to do the Adept updates first...to enable the Administrator mode05:25
LeeJunFanAre you on broadband - do you have a router that serves DHCP?05:26
LeeJunFankkathman: that will be hard w/o network :)05:26
MoSiAcyeah my router allows dhcp and i turned off all security like the guide said until i got things going05:26
kkathmanahh yah..true :)05:27
LeeJunFanMoSiAc: okay, try opening console and run 'sudo dhclient eth0' first of all I guess, that will try to config the card from the DHCP your router gives out.05:27
LeeJunFans/console/konsole05:28
MoSiAcwow i'm a moron and apparently missed that step05:28
MoSiAcheh05:28
LeeJunFanMoSiAc: did it work?05:28
MoSiAcyeah05:28
kkathmanMoSiAc: thats what I was referring to before05:28
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kkathman[22:19:35]  <kkathman> MoSiAc: I take it that you have checked the eth0 and all that05:29
MoSiAcmy bad i thought i had done that but i guess not because that got me going05:29
LeeJunFanMoSiAc: well, you shouldn't have to do that all the time manually, so you do still need to change a file.05:29
kkathmanlol05:29
kkathmanthats ok... I was not very clear...and should have been05:29
MoSiAcheh np i'm still getting used to this 05:29
LeeJunFan /etc/network/interfaces - you need a line like 'auto eth0' and another one 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'05:30
LeeJunFanso fire up 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' to edit that file to make those changes. There very well may be a GUI for this somewhere but I'm old school so bear with me.05:30
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kkathmanLeeJunFan:  there is, but you have to be admin mode to do it05:31
MoSiAchehe thats ok heh05:31
MoSiAci added those lines05:31
kkathmanand the kubuntu install disk has a broken admin mode05:31
MoSiAclets see if that works in05:31
LeeJunFan!repos05:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource05:32
LeeJunFanMoSiAc: check the info ubotu just spewed, you'll want to edit your repositories and do your updates.05:32
MoSiAcok05:32
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LeeJunFanMoSiAc: once your updates are done and you log out/in of kde you should have working admin mode.05:33
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MoSiAcok that edit got my network to auto load so i'm one step closer now to modify for updates05:34
KnowerrorsHey all, just installed Firestarter, however, when its on, I get no net access, anybody tell me how to use it to properly configure things?05:35
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alanddl3m:  I got the sound working on my kids' computer.  But not the way I expected.05:50
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_brenthi05:50
alanddkubuntu live did not find the sound either so I did not install it.05:50
_brentanyone awake?05:50
mosiac!easysource05:51
ubotuwell, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:51
_brentCan anyone help me out with information on installing my wifi card?05:51
alanddThen, I found a reference to the driver I needed, es1688.  All I had to do was 'modprobe es1688' and the FC4 had sound!  Adding a sound alias in modules.conf made it permanent.05:51
alanddl3m: I was impressed with the kubuntu live and was glad I had an excuse to try it.  I'll have to install it on my test box and play there someday.  For now, I'll keep the FC4 install on the kids' computer since I have other things to do this weekend.05:53
_brentAnyone?05:53
alandd_brent, I am not experienced with wifi cards but I might be a good ear.  05:53
alanddWhat's your issue?05:53
_brentWell this is a bear.. Its a broadcom gadget.05:53
_brenti have tried loading my driver with ndiswrapper... but it still doesnt recognize the hardware05:54
_brentI dont know what else to do05:54
LeeJunFan!ndiswrapper05:54
ubotu[ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:54
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alanddUgh!  I was gonna suggest ndiswrapper when you alread typed it.  I'm afraid that is out of my league then.05:55
_brentlol Well thanks anyway.05:55
alanddDo you get anything at all?05:55
_brentNadda.05:55
_brentError.. error ... error05:55
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xtacocorexsince there is more activity again, i installed a bunch of fonts and they aren't showing up in any lists in kde, is there anyway to refresh the font server?05:56
alanddAny hope of a Linux supported wifi card as a gift?  ;^)05:57
xtacocorexmy installation method worked in hary05:57
_brentheres another question-05:57
_brentI installed teamspeak VOIP software, but dont know how to make a link for it in my toolbar05:57
_brentlol.. i dunno.. That will be my next purchase i guess.05:58
_brentAbout Team Speak- I dont even know where it installed to.05:58
xtacocorexhmm, it seems that my xorg.conf file didn't have FontPath"unix/:7100" in the files section05:59
_brentxta- Im a super noob so I couldnt even begin to help you.05:59
xtacocorex_brent: type locate teamspeak in a terminal window05:59
_brenthmm.. Thats funny.. It lists the files but doesn't look like they were installed.06:00
xtacocorex_brent: nothing in /usr?06:00
alanddgood luck, _brent.  I just had to report my sound solution to l3m.  Must be off.06:01
_brentno.. /opt and /home06:01
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chaoticgeekhello all06:01
_brentok.. Thanks take care!06:01
xtacocorex_brent: /opt is where the binary is, or should be if it compiled correctly06:01
xtacocorex_brent: you want a link to it on kicker (the bar at the bottom)06:02
chaoticgeekhow is everyone doing?06:02
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xtacocorexchaoticgeek: i'm doing good, stuffed after a large thanksgiving meal though06:03
KnowerrorsHi all, can anybody help me with firestarter?06:03
_brentxta: Not quite sure if I understand..06:03
xtacocorex_brent: i remember you saying you wanted a button for it or something similiar06:04
_brentyes.06:04
_brentI dont know how to start the application06:04
xtacocorex_brent: you do need to add the location of the executable in your PATH variable06:04
_brentthats the problem.. When I do locate- the only files I see are .htm and .gif06:05
_brentno executables?06:05
xtacocorex_brent: oh06:05
xtacocorex_brent: that could be a problem06:05
_brentyea.. thus- It didnt install correctly..?06:05
_brentshould I retry?06:05
xtacocorex_brent: i would assume not, yes definately retry06:05
xtacocorex_brent: i don't have teamspeak, so i can't help you with the installation06:06
xtacocorexKnowerrors: i'd help with firestarter, but i don't have it installed06:06
xtacocorexis ubotu a bot on the server that answers questions?06:07
xtacocorexi've seen it being used the last couple of days and am intrigued06:08
Knowerrorsyeah06:08
Knowerrorsdo you use a firewall program xtacocorex ?06:08
xtacocorexKnowerrors: no, i should though06:09
xtacocorexKnowerrors: if i did, i'd probably get shorewall06:09
xtacocorexKnowerrors: just because my team used it in a cyber defense competition and i could get easy help configuring it06:09
_brenthaha!  I found the executable06:10
_brenthow do i link it?06:10
xtacocorex_brent: nice, where is it at?06:10
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_brent./opt/TeamSpeak2RC206:10
alistairhi everyone06:11
xtacocorex_brent: if you want the icon on the desktop, i'd right click on the desktop and then select create new and then go to link to application06:11
_brenti want it in my toolbar...06:11
mosiacwell i wanna thank you guys for getting my network going i'll continue working on the wireless alone and if i get stuck i'll be back heh later06:11
_brent.. *K munu06:12
_brentmenu06:12
alistairi tried enabling shaddows, and it tells me that i need an x-org file >  6.8 06:12
alistairhow can I get this?06:12
xtacocorex_brent: ah, kmenu, right click on the kmenu icon and then go to menu editor06:12
alistaircan someone please help me..?  :)06:13
xtacocorexalistair: what shadows are you talking about, i am only able to use menu dropshadows due to being on a laptop with a crappy graphics card06:14
alistairKDE windows shaddows06:14
xtacocorexalistair: the ones using composite?06:15
alistairi think so06:15
alistairyes06:15
alistairit was a "composite manager failure"06:15
xtacocorexalistair: have you checked the forums?06:15
alistairi couldn't find anything...06:16
xtacocorexalistair: hmm, i remember trying to install it once, but i got the same error06:16
_brentxta- I am saving my menu info but still do not see it...06:16
xtacocorex_brent: it should pick up right away06:17
_brentdoesnt.06:17
xtacocorex_brent: how did you add it?06:18
_brentright clicked on interent... then selescted the icon and pasted the command06:18
_brent..then hit save06:18
xtacocorexalistair: i'd try google and see if you could find an irc server for xorg stuff06:18
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xtacocorex_brent: hmm, internet is a menu, so you need to make an item in that menu for teamspeak06:19
_brentyes I chose make new item06:20
xtacocorex_brent: oh, my bad on the wrong assumption06:20
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_brentwait... I bet i have toclse the ditor first06:21
xtacocorex_brent: did it work after closing it?06:22
_brentdamnit. No.06:22
xtacocorex_brent: damn06:22
_brentjeeeeeeeeeez??!?06:24
xtacocorex_brent: that should have worked06:24
_brentit doesnt do anything.. I tried creating a new subfolder too- nothing06:24
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_clinthi all06:25
_brenti have ubuntu insallted.. but I use KDE environment06:26
_brentis THAT a problem?06:26
_clintno06:26
xtacocorex_brent: i don't think it would be06:26
_brentme either...06:26
_clintI installed kubuntu, however I am going install gnome,,06:26
_clintsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:26
_clintI like the kubuntu blue . :-)06:26
_brentClint: I am refering to creating new folders and executables in the k menu06:27
_brentMine wont work.06:27
_clintanyone here, know about configuring so screensavers will be right. for some reason on my laptop, has been a real big deal with ubuntu for mp3, and mpeg and when I put the cd on ubuntu would lag06:27
_clintoh sorry m806:28
_brentits cool.06:28
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clint-i guess I will do, sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg gstreamer0.8-mad  and that should take care of things06:30
clint-I'm looking at site06:30
clint-and says, killall artsd to restart sound server, and will also have to restart amarok and kaffeine06:30
_brentmhy god. i cant believe this wont work.06:30
clint-m8,  I have been working with so   many different linux systems and even unix pc bsd kde on freebsd, and freebsd6.0, debian 3.1 solid base,  xandros, and it takes alot of patience, I even isntalled Mandriva 2006, always seems to be some negative about 106:33
clint-don't get discourage, it helps to read documentation, on linux and configuratin06:33
clint-configuration*06:33
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clint-anyone know where to find the universe repositories?06:38
xtacocorexclint-: you need to enable them in your sources.list file06:39
clint-the universe repository* sorry about that06:39
clint-k, is there a quick way I can do that, I'l listen06:39
clint-looking on kubuntu site and all, and trying to figure out how06:39
xtacocorexclint-: what package manager do you use?06:39
_joe_how can i get a peer 2 peer06:40
clint-well I just installed kubuntu again, because when I put a data cd mpeg or mp3 in ubuntu, it would take along time to read and lag06:40
_brentok.. next question- Do I need to load some sound drivers for my new Ubuntu install?06:40
_joe_you should be able to find all sound drivwers on synaptic06:40
clint-I been through alot of disributions , and debian as well, havn't had a reall fun time06:41
_joe_try pclinuxos06:41
clint-no thanks06:41
_joe_its beta but its awesome06:41
clint-I don't want an rpm base linux :-)06:41
_joe_have you tried it06:41
clint-yes I have06:41
_joe_didn't like it?06:41
clint-and many others, and thought about creating my own usb flas live :)06:41
clint-knoppix and phlak are the ones I like :-)06:42
_joe_are you kde or gnome06:42
clint-I like both :-)06:42
_joe_kde is awesome06:42
clint-gnome-look and kde-look.. I open my windows,, :)06:42
_joe_gnome is ...06:42
clint-PC  BSD is something else.. gnome is easy on the resources06:42
xtacocorexclint-: the sources.lst file is in /etc/apt, uncomment the lines that have universe at the enddd06:43
clint-PC BSD was the fastest I ever got into, but I don' have time for unix right now :-)06:43
clint-k06:43
_joe_hell either one is easier on resources then windows xp06:43
_joe_lol06:43
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clint-yep06:43
viviersfi dont like bsd06:43
viviersfto much of an hassle for desktop06:43
xtacocorexclint-: there is also an updated sources.list that is different than the cd06:43
xtacocorex!sources.list06:43
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:43
clint-I have quite a few operating systems. platforms whatever you want to call them that i mess with joe06:43
_joe_kubuntu doesn't like peer 2 peer06:44
_joe_as do i06:44
_joe_my wife hates it06:44
_brentjoe: how do I find out which sound driver I should use?06:44
clint-I'm  not worried about running peer to peer on kubuntu, aka kde on ubuntu06:44
_joe_lol06:44
clint-I have another system , that I help others on filetopia.. :)06:44
_joe_kde+ubuntu=kubuntu06:44
clint-yep I know :-)06:45
clint-sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:45
clint-it quite easy :)06:45
_joe_i usualy use my 98 pc for peer2peer06:45
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clint-however, ubuntu wanted to be a biatch, and lag when I put data cd in, mpeg and mp3, any reason why?06:45
_joe_thats what gates is good for solitair and porn06:45
_joe_lol06:45
clint-if I could solve that, I would go back to ubuntu, and then just install the kde packages06:46
_joe_yea ubuntu doesn't like mp3s06:46
clint-this my motto, and i got it from lynucs site. "In a wolrd without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?"  it makes perfect sense :-)06:46
_joe_lol06:47
_joe_i like that06:47
crimsun_joe_: did you install the necessary libraries to play mp3s?06:47
clint-k, what should I do m806:47
clint-I'm all eyes, and ready to console06:47
_joe_i did now06:47
_joe_but it still don't like em06:47
xtacocorexclint-: what is m8?06:47
clint-can't I just do a sudo install yada yada, I would rather do that method06:47
crimsun_joe_: what did you install?06:47
clint-mate, 06:47
xtacocorexclint-: the sudo apt-get should work06:48
_joe_hold on06:48
clint-k06:48
xtacocorexclint-: that's what i thought, but i wasn't sure06:48
sophie_clint-: yada package does not exist06:48
clint-I like that method, it been teachin me to not be lazy and I like it06:48
clint-its figure of speech I use, I'm in USA, maybe that make a difference :-)06:48
_joe_k3b,akode,flac...06:48
xtacocorexclint-: i'm glad you mentioned that because i was just about to ask how the weather was in australia06:49
clint-well yeah I will use flac after I get my dam mp3's to work!06:49
clint->_<06:49
clint-now back to you xtacocorex , I'm listening . sorry we was interupted :-)06:49
xtacocorexclint-: tis all good06:49
_joe_juk, gstreamer0.806:49
crimsun_joe_: but did you install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg?06:49
clint-thats what I am asking! argh >_<06:50
clint-can't I just do a sudo with those packages !06:50
_joe_yea 06:50
xtacocorexclint-: yes06:50
clint-gee thats all I needed to knw06:50
clint->_<06:50
_joe_they work now its just a bitch to get them there06:50
_joe_lol06:50
clint-there?06:50
_joe_to working06:51
_joe_finally got it tot work06:51
_joe_thats what i'm saying06:51
clint-so why does kubuntu not have mp3 and mpeg and dvd support, gee isn't that something for an OS06:51
_joe_i want to get wine but mysynaptic won't get it06:51
clint-but sony has it to where a rootkit can be installed on a windows system, gee isn't that nice06:51
xtacocorexclint-: i think it deals with the fact that those are proprietary06:52
_joe_lol06:52
clint-userability06:52
xtacocorexclint-: i read about that in the paper the other day06:52
_joe_how does that work clint06:52
clint-I will design custom system for kubuntu to go nicely on laptops and have the mp3 , dvd and all06:52
clint-1 day I am designing Zoo Linux06:52
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xtacocorexclint-: nice06:52
xtacocorexclint-: if you want dvd to work, you need to install dvdread06:53
clint-yeah, when I study all the books and stuff I got, I'm going to  Robert Morris for Computer science06:53
_joe_clint where you at in us06:53
clint-IL06:53
_joe_nebraska here06:53
clint-been busy with School and everything, and the laptops they got us, gee let me tell you its been alot of fun, not06:54
_joe_so far in the sticks they have to pipe in the sunshine06:54
clint-I think about Suse, I just don't like there green theme :-)06:54
clint-ic06:54
xtacocorex_joe_: it blistering cold in the middle of nebraska?06:55
clint-I was messing with Debian 3.1 sarge, but it drove me crazy06:55
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clint-so I can just do, sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg gsreamer0.8-mad ?06:56
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xtacocorexclint-: yes06:56
clint-and then, killall artsd,and restart amarok and kaffeine06:56
clint-?06:56
_joe_i grew up in anchorage this is like summer time to me06:56
xtacocorexclint-: i think that should work06:56
clint-k06:56
xtacocorex_joe_: i've always wanted to go do alaska06:57
clint-don't have to worry about adding anything to config files which I don't have alot of patience for at the time. :DDDD06:57
clint-:P06:57
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_joe_alaska is cold06:57
_joe_lol06:57
_joe_nebraska is hot06:57
_joe_lol06:57
clint-yeah, its 16 degrees here, and I Don't even have an insulated loft, 06:57
xtacocorexclint-: for full dvd support: install libdvdread3 and then cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples and run the install-css.sh script06:58
clint-hey ty alot xtac06:58
_joe_its like 27 here and i'm wearing shorts06:58
xtacocorexclint-: np06:58
xtacocorexit's about 20 here in iowa with a pretty decent wind06:58
clint-ah06:59
clint-hi neighbor :)06:59
_joe_we're all nieghbors06:59
_joe_this is the midwest nieghborhood06:59
xtacocorextis true, my parents drove out from lincoln today for thanksgiving at my place 07:00
clint-I really appreciate the help, and i willl offer support to the kubuntu/ubuntu community as well, if all goes well , I wil convince my college into running it, my friends already amazed at what I get into07:00
_joe_are u in counciltucky07:00
_joe_lol07:00
xtacocorexno, ames, ia07:00
clint-Happy late thanksgiving guys07:00
xtacocorexbut i do know people from counciltucky07:00
_joe_i saw pinkfloyd in ames07:00
_joe_in 9407:00
_joe_or 95 07:00
frank23how can I view a dvd from the .iso file?07:00
_joe_hell it coulda been yesterday07:00
_joe_lol07:00
clint-hey xtacocorex , can I do this hing, 1 at a time07:01
xtacocorexhaha07:01
_joe_it was smokey there07:01
xtacocorexclint-: the install?07:01
clint-mount it I would presume frank07:01
clint-Alcohol 120% sure makes that easy :D07:01
frank23clint-: can you mount a dvd?07:01
_joe_lol07:01
clint-on windows I can :P07:01
_joe_lol07:01
clint-still teaching myself alot m8 on linux07:01
_joe_windows07:02
clint-even been with it for 1 year , and half, but I am jus familar with a couple things :-)07:02
xtacocorex!mount iso07:02
ubotuxtacocorex: I give up, what is it?07:02
_joe_i'm learning linux aswell07:02
_joe_the hard way07:02
clint-lol07:02
clint-I go books and everything07:02
_joe_as do i07:02
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xtacocorexclint-: did you get the gstreamer installed?07:02
_joe_but i can't read07:02
_joe_lol07:02
frank23clint-: alcohol makes a virtual drive though. in linux that exists also but I don't have it setup07:02
xtacocorex!mount07:03
ubotufrom memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f07:03
clint-I am going take, TechSmith Camtasia, or like xvidcap, and with audio maybe, teach people how to use and configure linux07:03
clint-as well as to install and configure operating systems :-)07:03
_joe_got tired of windows systems07:03
_joe_they're to easy07:03
clint-I manage them joe07:03
clint-linux is my fun toy :-)07:04
xtacocorex!iso07:04
ubotuI haven't a clue, xtacocorex07:04
_joe_i build combines07:04
clint-unix, that will come later07:04
_joe_linux is my toy aswell07:04
clint-or maybe not at all :P07:04
clint-its a file system that I don't have the patience for, but let me tell you its fast as hell07:04
_joe_i have a book called unix in a nutshell07:04
clint-yea, I got tons07:05
clint-80 O'reilly books, tcp/ip , unix, java, perl, linux, xml,  web, oracle, and so many more, Building Wireless community networks.. intrusion Detection, I"m into alot of it , its the desire m8,, desire07:06
_joe_the box said "requires 98 or better" so i installed linux07:06
clint-lol07:06
clint-good 107:06
_joe_you can use that 07:06
_joe_its open source07:06
clint-good move I should say :P07:06
_joe_lol07:06
clint-me, i figured to myself, why have a nice laptop with an OS that is 40% stable compared to a system that is 90% stable, thats just how i view windows and linux, however I do use them both for my purposes, 07:07
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_joe_like i said windows has its purposes07:08
_joe_porn and solitaire07:08
_joe_lol07:08
clint-I didn't like the fact that , they installed windows 98 on the laptops, had fat 32, then made a  system recovery , with having to have 4 cd images, I was stupid for making the cd back ups.. but , oh well , we sometimes do stupid things07:08
_joe_yea i know all about stupid, i'm married07:09
_joe_lol07:09
clint-I called Acer, and they said I couldn't even speak to the engineers, so I could find out the full specs on my hardware, I am going file a lawsuit against them, since I am in warranty :-)07:09
_joe_if a man speaks speaks in the forest and a woman can't hear him is he still wrong?07:10
clint-Lawyers* Attorneys have away of getting things done.. :-)07:10
clint-lol07:10
clint-make it a cave :-)07:10
_joe_for them selves07:10
_joe_so i won't be wrong in a cave07:11
clint-joe I am going instal those packages07:11
_joe_lol07:11
clint-nope lol07:11
_joe_cool07:11
_joe_i got to find a cave07:11
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clint-yeah, hope it go well for me07:11
_joe_good luck07:11
clint-Wireless will be a spring project I think :D07:11
clint-I don't care if I have it too much, I already know how unsecure wireless networks are07:11
_joe_go synaptic and search dvd burning, cdburning and mp3s07:12
clint-i have the internet at my home , and at school/college, we have really nice desk with IBM Centre's07:12
_joe_see what it gives you07:12
_joe_thats what i do07:12
clint-I am just going to the sudo apt-get install method*07:12
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_joe_hey my yahoo id is joe6880107:13
_joe_hit me up sometime07:13
clint-I am training myself to be more of a power user, because I am going set up a fluxbox on kubuntu07:13
_joe_cool07:13
clint-yeah, I have many goals mate07:13
_joe_lol07:13
_joe_i have but one07:14
clint-lol07:14
_joe_live free07:14
clint-cool :)07:14
_joe_oh and screw a stipper07:14
_joe_lol07:14
clint-lynucs has some really inspiring screenshots07:14
_joe_lynucs?07:14
_joe_is that kde07:14
clint-yep07:14
_joe_i'll check it out07:14
clint-its a site where they have screenshots posted07:14
_joe_that would be where07:15
clint-have you even messed with www.kde-look.org or www.gnome-look.org07:15
clint-changing your system around for themes is alot of fun07:15
_joe_yea 07:15
clint-cool07:15
_joe_i'm just not into gnome muxch07:15
_joe_much*07:15
_joe_one of these days i'll learn to type07:16
clint-its cool, I was in kDE alot, and liked it, but then I read how gnome utilizes the resources better. 07:16
clint-its just all about preference, I don't limit myself to 1 thing07:17
clint-and never will07:17
clint-I use windows you see, so I can work with Rhinoceros  3d, Maxon, cad programs like that m8. and Autodesk 3ds max, ya know07:17
_joe_i have another box with ubuntu on it07:17
_joe_its ok07:17
clint-my fun stuff :-)07:17
_joe_but i prefer this one with kubuntu07:18
clint-would you laugh if I told you, I have a book on installing debian to xbox07:18
clint-:07:18
clint-:D07:18
clint-thats a gag :-)07:18
_joe_i've heard of that07:18
_joe_thats like a big kick in the sack to old bill07:18
_joe_lol07:18
_joe_if i had an xbox i'd do it07:19
clint-lol07:19
_joe_but i have a ps207:19
clint-yea07:19
clint-I don't even have an xbox or want 107:19
clint-:-)07:19
_joe_i have no need for 107:19
clint-I prefer ps over xbox microsoft. thats just me :-)07:19
_joe_they say worldwide playstation is the leader07:19
_joe_ps2 is reverse comp07:20
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clint-let me install those packages and see what I get k lo07:20
_joe_cool07:20
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clint-dam it07:23
clint-it won't let me sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg07:23
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_joe_try synaptic07:24
clint-so I should isntall that right?07:24
_joe_thats what i have07:24
_joe_it works for me07:25
clint-how did you install it m807:25
_joe_of couse this box has only been online for abotu a week07:25
_joe_synaptic07:25
clint-yeah07:25
clint-I got 5.10 version m807:25
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_joe_not sure07:26
clint-i'll figure it out, no worries07:26
_joe_cool07:26
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clint-I'm just going update the adept updater now07:29
clint-so no worries m8, I'll play with it, I taking laptop down stairs where its warm07:29
clint-I have a really fast connection07:30
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Lirx1Hey is anyone here familiar with damn small linux??07:57
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Lirx1i really need some help07:57
Lirx1is anyone familair with damnsmall linux ? :/07:58
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fatejudgerI switched Kaffeine to xine a couple of weeks ago, and now I can't switch it back to Gstreamer in Konq08:25
fatejudgerI have switch it to gstreamer in the player itself, but Konq doesn't register the changes08:25
fatejudger*I can08:25
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fatejudgeris there any way to change it to gstreamer?08:25
crimsunjust uninstall kaffeine-xine08:29
fatejudgercrimsun: well that's kind of stupid, I need to use xine sometimes08:29
fatejudgercrimsun: gstreamer is kind of flaky sometimes08:29
fatejudgercrimsun: damn, gstreamer can't play anything08:32
fatejudgercrimsun: well, anything over the web08:32
fatejudgerI even have gnomevfs08:32
Tm_Tkaffeine yuk08:36
fatejudgerKaffeine is great08:36
fatejudgerwhat's wrong with Kaffeine?08:36
Tm_Ta) crashy  b) eats resources too much08:37
Tm_Ttwo biggest08:37
Tm_Tand hmm, can't use mplayer08:37
Tm_Tmy choice is kmplayer08:38
kkathmanhey Tm_T :)08:40
Tm_Thullo08:40
kkathmanKaffeine was the best choice for me when I played music on music on my box, but I used xine as the engine 08:40
Tm_Tbah, dishes ->08:40
kkathmanbut when I stopped it, it never stopped running and I had to kill it08:41
fatejudgergstreamer is much better, but has poor web support08:50
fatejudgersomeone needs to port gnomevfs over to KDE08:51
fatejudgerso that system:/ works08:51
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jass3hhello, i have a question about konqueror ... its sending my cdrom to "hdd" when i go to "media:/"09:03
jass3hwhat gives?09:03
kkathmanjass3h: what do you mean that its sending your cdrom to HDD?09:04
jass3hwhen i try to edit the system settings > disk & filesystems, it wont let me modify my optical drive, but fstab is ok09:04
jass3hkkathman: i mean when i type "media:/hdd" it somehow sends me to my cdrom, even though it is mouted at /media/cdrom009:05
kkathmanahh are you administrator mode?09:05
kkathmango to a konsole, and do an cd /media  then do an ls and see what you see09:06
jass3hjust floppy, cdrom, and the winxp mount points09:06
jass3hkkathman: im trying to get kde to point to cdrom, but it wont let me09:07
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kkathmanwhen you are in konqueror and go to file mode, does your cdrom show up separately?09:07
DjDarkmanhy ,how can i make my kubuntu ,to read files that contain words with accents?09:08
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jass3hfile mode?09:09
jass3hsorry kkathman 09:09
Tm_Tfatejudger: KDE has kioslaves09:10
kkathmanyah.you can run konq in file mode09:10
Tm_Tfatejudger: and there's fuse09:10
kkathmanjust go to the "address line" and type /  and that will take you to root09:10
Tm_Tfatejudger: so I really don't see the point to have gnomevfs09:10
jass3hkkathman: ok, then what?09:11
DjDarkmanhow can i read files that contain characters like these   ?09:11
kkathmanjass3h: do you see cdrom as a "folder" on the list under root?09:12
kkathmanthats what Mine says09:12
jass3hyep09:12
kkathmanok thats good09:13
jass3hits just a soft link to /media/cdrom09:13
kkathmanthats right09:13
kkathmanok09:13
kkathmanno when you go to system settings, disk&filesystems, check and see if its "greyed" out09:13
jass3hsee if what is greyed out? the entry for my optical drive?09:14
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kkathmanjass3h: see if your optical disk is greyed out09:14
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jass3hits there, missing the mount point, type, and enabled field entries like the other devices have09:16
DjDarkmannobody knows how can i read files that contain characters like these   ?09:16
jass3hand i cannot modify, delete, enable, or disable it09:16
kkathmanok09:16
kkathmanwell..you can09:16
jass3heven after i login as root09:16
kkathmanits set to hdc right?09:17
jass3hhdd09:17
kkathmanas the device09:17
kkathmanright mine too09:17
jass3hhdd09:17
jass3hoops, double enter there09:17
kkathmanI think thats ok actually09:18
kkathmanbecause thats the way mine is set also09:18
jass3hinterestingly wierd09:18
kkathmanyah09:18
kkathmanbrb must reboot.09:18
fatejudgerTm_T: kioslaves?09:18
fatejudgerTm_T: you need gnomevfs to view streaming content off the internet09:18
Tm_Tnah09:19
Tm_Tnever used it09:20
Tm_Tstill can stream audio and video09:20
Tm_Tin and out09:20
DjDarkmannobody knows how can i read files that contain characters like these   ?09:21
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kkathmanok back09:22
kkathmanthats a bit irritating for me..09:22
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kkathmanI think samba has issues09:23
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jass3h?09:24
jass3hoooooooook09:24
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DjDarkmannobody knows how can i read files that contain characters like these   ?09:25
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Tm_TI can read those files just fine09:29
DjDarkmanbut why can u read them and i don`t09:30
DjDarkman?09:30
DjDarkmanwhen i look at them they look like this K?ve.wav09:30
DjDarkmanfor exmale09:30
Tm_Toh09:31
DjDarkmandoes it has something to do wih those files are on a vfat partition?09:32
Tm_Tmaybe09:32
Tm_TI think propably09:32
Tm_Thave you tried any filesin ext2/309:32
DjDarkmani couldn` copy them... to my ext partitions09:33
DjDarkmanbut i think xmms reads them09:33
Tm_Tuh09:33
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gar-i want to install kubuntu on ubuntu how to please09:35
Tm_Tsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:35
gar-ok09:35
gar-it say canot find the pkg09:36
gar-Tm_T, any idea?09:37
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_davidhello09:38
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Tm_Tgar-: sudo apt-get update09:40
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gar-yes09:44
gar-i forgot i have to upgrade to 5.10 breezy09:44
gar-let see it dont mess my wireless card09:44
gar-because i try already09:44
gar-because it say i need gcc-3.4 but when i try to install i want to do a net install and when that happen i dont have the network lol09:45
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Tm_T:p09:46
Tm_Tawwwway ->09:46
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mpmaanyone use eclipse?09:56
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dooglushi.  is there a KDE version of the gnome update notifier, so I can tell when I need to apply updates?10:12
insanekanedooglus: nope :/10:17
dooglusinsanekane: so what do people do?  use the gnome one?  or just not worry about security?10:17
insanekanedooglus: we come to #kubuntu and look at the topic :)10:18
dooglusinsanekane: wow10:19
dooglusthere was a big kernel fix a few days ago, in case anyone didn't notice.10:19
l3m dooglus actually, you can just run adept10:19
dooglusI'm new to KDE.  Is there a keyboard shortcut for switching tabs in Konsole?10:20
l3myes. you can look at and change all the shortcuts in Settings->Configure Shortcuts10:21
dooglusand where are the man pages in KDE?  "man adept" doesn't find it10:21
l3mdooglus: kde tools ususally have some pages in the kde handbook10:21
l3mdooglus: just click on help in the menu10:22
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dooglusl3m: ok.  I see the help center.  then what, search?10:22
l3mdooglus: oh i just see that they didn't include any documentation for adept ;(10:24
l3mkynaptic is probably better documented10:24
dooglusI clicked 'search', it asked me if I wanted to build an index.  I told it yes, and it showed me the KDE Crash Handler.10:24
l3mi get a message that adept doesn't have docs..10:24
l3mhmm10:24
l3manyway, if you just want to update, click on "fetch updates", "commit changes"10:25
dooglusI tried building the index again.  this time it didn't crash, but tells me "htdig failed"10:25
l3mforget the index. kubu people didn't include adept docs, as it seems ;(10:25
naliothdooglus: imho, i'd use synaptic10:25
l3mi prefer console tools ( apt-get, apt-cache, apt-file ) anyway10:26
dooglusl3m: me too.  then you can run them from a crontab automatically10:26
l3mindeed ;)10:27
naliothdooglus: so why are you in a feather about adept and upgrade indicators?10:28
dooglusnalioth: I'm not in a feather (whatever that is) but I'd like the desktop I use to be able to keep up with security updates without me poking it to do so every day10:29
dooglusyou can't really expect end users to run a package manager regularly to check for security updates.  that's why gnome has its update notifier and windows too10:30
naliothdooglus: your k/x/ubuntu SHOULD hit the servers once a week, no matter what DE you use10:30
dooglusit might hit the servers, but how does it communicate to the user that something needs to be done?10:30
naliothdooglus: that has not yet been addressed in kubuntu10:31
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gar-?10:35
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CyberMadhow to choose KDE Start Menu without mouse? because the mouse can't move.. but the keyboard is ok10:38
dooglusCyberMad: alt-f110:39
Tm_Tctrl-esc?10:40
CyberMadi will try it10:42
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GTroyif I've installed kubuntu-desktop, do I get to decide if I want to use kde?10:44
naliothGTroy: of course you do10:44
Tm_TGTroy: in login: session ;)10:44
naliothGTroy: you choose at the login screen under "sessions"10:44
GTroyvery cool10:44
GTroyjust what I was looking for10:45
GTroynalioth: I helped someone with their wifi today10:45
GTroyfelt good to finally give some help10:45
naliothGTroy: be careful, you help people, you tend to learn stuff10:45
GTroyI'll keep that in mind ;)10:45
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afterhomewindow switching :)10:50
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CyberMadhow to configure PPPoE on linux?10:57
aftertaf!pppoe10:58
ubotupppoe is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE10:58
aftertafCyberMad:  ^^^^10:58
CyberMadthanks :)10:58
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chxhi. is there a DC++ client besides Valknut/DCgui?11:12
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puckmanNot said this in aaaages11:27
=== puckman LOVES his Kubuntu install.
GTroyhey puckman what's up11:28
puckmanMy system!11:29
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GTroyon kubuntu now11:29
puckmanYeah, Amarok is the app that made me switch11:29
GTroywhat are some other cool apps?11:29
puckmanIt plays mod files11:29
GTroyoooh11:29
puckmanthe IM client is cool but is missing some features I need so still use gaim11:30
puckmanthe mail client is very nice11:30
puckmanKate, the text editor is very solid11:30
puckmanOf course you need to install VLC11:30
dipnlikpuckman: what is vlc?11:35
puckmanYou dont know???11:36
dipnlikno11:36
puckmanVideo Lan media player.11:36
dipnlikhm11:36
puckmanVery good11:36
puckmanplays almost anything.11:36
dipnlikwell, i had no problems with mplayer yet :)11:36
puckmanavi, mp4, quicktime, divx11:36
dipnlikjust curious. is it possible to install ubuntu from a kubuntu hoary CD? (I mean, no trace of KDE?)11:36
puckmanand has a plugin for firfox11:36
puckmanShould be11:37
puckmankde is just the windows manager with some extra apps right?11:37
puckmanSo switch off all kde stuff at install and you should be ok11:37
dipnlikpuckman: then I'll have no KDE but still no gnome. I mean, what do I need to apt-get to have all the gnome stuff that comes in ubuntu?11:38
puckmandunno off my head.11:39
puckmanI reckon it is WAY faster just to download the gnome version of ubuntu11:39
puckmanits only a 600mb  disc image11:39
dipnlikpuckman: it'll cost a CD :)11:40
puckmantrue11:40
dipnlikpuckman: and with net install I can use the system while downloading the rest11:40
puckmanthats why you should download it where you work and burn a cd there :P11:40
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dipnlikmp3blaster :)11:41
dipnlikpuckman: no CD burner here :|11:41
puckmandarn11:41
dipnliksad11:41
puckmansorry cant help you, still a linux newbie11:41
dipnlikno problem11:42
puckmanI can use linux because of the good work of the ubuntu and kde guys who make nice gui tools for noobs like me11:42
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osorghoBN11:45
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l3mdipnlik: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is want you want ( but not what you need, that would be kubuntu-desktop ;) )11:50
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dipnlikl3m: thanks a lot11:59
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dipnlikIs e17 (enlightenment's new version) available on the repos?12:11
crimsunnope.12:12
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sfazruzshi guys!12:35
sfazruzsdo anyone know kubuntu software or prog for avi or wmv files?12:35
dragonkhkaffeine ?12:36
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carstenhi! I want to install the real player. i am using adept for installing. should i use the package "realplay" or "realplayer" ?12:40
manveru!realplayer12:41
ubotu[realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:41
manveru!info realplay12:42
manveruthere is no realplay according to ubotu12:42
afterhomecarsten: id install vlc and plugins for rm media instead;12:42
insanekane!info realplayer12:42
uboturealplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB12:42
insanekane!help12:43
kinfoAvailable commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status12:43
sfazruzs!winamp12:43
ubotuhmm... winamp is use XMMS or Beep Media Player (BMP) instead (Winamp for linux doesn't work on Ubuntu)12:43
carstenmanveru: i just installed "realplay" . strange12:44
manveruinteresting :)12:44
insanekanethis BMP ... is it a GNOME thingy ?12:44
carstenist version 10. it seems to work12:44
insanekanequestion, if Restricted Formats are not allowed in the main distro, then wouldn't it be anti-user friendly ?12:46
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manveruit is a legal thing12:46
afterhomehi Hobbsee 12:47
Hobbseehi afterhome 12:47
sfazruzs!anti virus12:48
ubotusfazruzs: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:48
sfazruzs!virus12:48
ubotusfazruzs: Syntax error in line 112:48
Hobbsee!antivirus12:50
ubotuNo idea, Hobbsee12:50
Hobbseesfazruzs: you're looking for an antivirus program?12:50
manveruwtf is a virus? ;)12:51
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Hobbseehehe12:51
Hobbseemanveru: it's somethign that happens on windows12:53
sfazruzsthen what the hell is f-prot and clamav and aegis-virus scanner about?12:54
sfazruzsisn't it anti-virus software?12:54
Hobbseethey are12:55
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Hobbseenone of the windows viruses work on linux12:55
Hobbseeand there are only a few linux ones12:55
Hobbseesearch on ubuntuforums.org if you want the full story about it12:55
Hobbseeit's something that's asked about a lot12:55
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sfazruzswhich games is the best for kubuntu?12:56
Hobbseedepends on which ones you like :P - very hard to pick one in particular12:57
sfazruzsfor u?12:57
Hobbseei like kpat, and planet penguin racer12:57
Hobbseekpat is otherwise known as patience, as part of kdegames12:58
carstenafterhome: can you please tell me what the name of the vlc rm plugin package is ? i cant find it !12:58
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sfazruzshow to make shortcut icon?01:00
Hobbseesfazruzs: on your desktop?01:01
naliothmorning Hobbsee 01:02
Hobbseeevening nalioth 01:02
berkesmy koffice will not run properly, is this a known issue? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/437679 is the error01:02
berkesbasically it is nagging about MimeTypes01:03
berkessfazruzs: in linux you make them, using ln. but thats commandline magic. 01:04
berkestype #ln into your conq address bar and youll get a nice manpage on this great command01:04
carstendoes anyon know how the rm plugin for vlc is called?01:04
sfazruzsok thanx..let say if for "start menu"?01:06
berkessfazruzs: you cannot make a symlink to a start menu, since that is not a location01:06
berkesallright no answer yet: here is the error koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kword's desktop file. Check your installation !01:07
sfazruzsoh,okies..i accidently deleted a shortcut link that is my firefox..01:07
sfazruzsso,how do i create a new one at my start menu?01:08
berkessfazruzs: aah. rightklick on the start menu01:08
berkesyoull find a menu editor, that is a nice tool to fix this01:08
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Hobbseekappfinder will work, too01:13
sfazruzsok..then,how do i find firefox exe file?01:13
Hobbseeshould be /usr/bin/firefox01:13
Hobbseeotherwise just put "firefox" and it will find it01:13
berkessfazruzs: the command which does it too: which firefox01:14
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naliothHobbsee should be a professor of kde01:14
Hobbseeheh01:14
berkesbut, sfazruzs, firefox is a littlebit of a biatch to install, 01:14
berkessfazruzs: the one you need is a script called mozilla-firefox01:15
Hobbseeberkes: where'd you try and install it from?  was fairly simple when i last did it01:15
Hobbseesudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox firefox01:15
Hobbseesfazruzs: alt+f2, type kappfinder, then hit scan, and tick the box marked mozilla firefox, then hit apply <-- simplest way of doing it01:16
sfazruzsi dont have ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html....01:16
Hobbseesfazruzs: yes, because you use kubuntu - set your home page to be something else01:17
Hobbseeedit, preferences, in firefox01:17
sfazruzsi see..01:17
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sfazruzsthx guys..01:20
sfazruzsset already:)01:20
Hobbseeno problems :)01:20
berkesHobbsee: just from the normal repos. Hobbsee, im in #koffice now, some very odd stuff seems to go on in (my) kubuntu01:20
Hobbseeberkes: right01:21
Hobbseeberkes: even from the main site to use one of the RC's is pretty easy01:21
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berkesSo, Hobbsee, thanks for your help too. Its an odd problem, and I will keep an eye on the bugtracker to see if others come across this too. It sounds like something went wrong somewhere with a sudo or so.01:30
Hobbseeor a chown01:30
Hobbseecould well be01:30
berkeswell, I personally never touched anything in there01:31
berkesso it must have happened when I did something else. 01:31
naliothusing chown when you dont know the problem can create many more horrible problems01:31
berkescould be because I installed klik, and it failed, then i ran it as sudo: 01:31
berkesnalioth: i never used chown nor chmod :) well, only now, to give me back my perms :)01:32
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Hobbseei never know quite what's happening...01:32
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spkhave i to change any option to burn a boot cd from k3b?01:34
Hobbseespk: just make sure you're burning a data cd, and that it's got the image button ticked01:36
naliothspk: if the iso is mastered as a bootable image, you dont have to touch anything in k3b. just burn the iso01:37
spkthx nalioth 01:38
spkthx Hobbsee 01:38
spk:-)01:38
Hobbseeno problems01:39
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rohanhi all01:39
Hobbseehi rohan 01:39
rohanhi Hobbsee 01:39
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rohanany problems with the kde rc1 packages ?01:40
rohanknown problems, i mean01:40
Hobbsee!kde3.5problems01:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5problems is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems01:40
Hobbseesome, yes01:40
Hobbseehere, not too many01:40
rohanlol, that for 3.5 beta101:40
rohani am talking about rc101:40
Hobbseerohan: check the bottom of it01:40
Hobbseethe page hasnt been renamed01:41
Hobbseetrust me - it's got rc1 at the bottom :P01:41
rohanok, sorry :)01:41
Hobbseeno problems - only reason i know that without looking is that i've edited that page a fair few times01:41
nalioth3.5 has gone gold, haven't y'all heard?01:41
rohangold ? meaning ?01:42
Hobbseenalioth: really?01:42
Hobbseewhere'd you hear that?01:42
naliothon the tech news sites?01:43
afterhomegone gold?01:43
naliothkde.org01:43
Hobbseenalioth: link?01:43
Hobbseeah01:43
Hobbseewonder why it's not on their rss feed yet01:43
Hobbseenalioth: link - i dont see it01:43
spkif the buring is choppy it means that i have to enable the DMA?01:43
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nalioththe news story i read said "kde 'quietly' announces kde 3.5 final"01:44
naliothRiddell: do you know anything about that?01:44
afterhomelol its final then?01:44
Hobbseenalioth: rc2 is in source form, nothing about a final01:44
rohannalioth: link link01:45
naliothlet me find the news link01:45
Hobbseenot all the packages are there on the rc2 bit yet, either01:45
Riddellftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/  no 3.5 there01:45
naliothhttp://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-nl&m=11326156521371001:45
naliotheverybody go read it01:45
naliothquick 01:46
naliothquick01:46
HobbseeRiddell: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/kde/unstable/3.5-rc2/src/ is all i see01:46
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Riddell3.5 is tagged though01:46
Hobbseewhat's tagging mean?01:46
Riddelland infact I have packaged if people running breezy want to test01:46
Hobbseei've never understood that bit01:46
RiddellHobbsee: it means it's marked in SVN01:46
Hobbseeooh yes please lol!01:46
Hobbseeas a major release?01:47
Hobbseeas in, not to be updated further?01:47
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Riddellit can be updated, but only for critical updates01:47
Hobbseeah ok, i see01:47
rohanRiddell: hey, we want to test !01:47
Hobbseehehe01:47
afterhomewe wanna update too.01:47
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RiddellHobbsee: where is that?01:50
HobbseeRiddell: what, the kde3.5 wiki page?  with all the problems?01:50
Hobbsee!kde3.5problems01:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5problems is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems01:50
Hobbseeor the annoucement?01:51
Riddelloh, that's beta01:51
Riddelldeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35rc2 breezy main01:51
Riddellplease test and let me know of any problems01:51
apokryphosamd64 too? Nice01:52
rohanRiddell: now that rc2 is out, how long do you think is it, before 3.5 final ?01:52
HobbseeRiddell: RC1 feedback is at the bottom, i've had this discussion with someone else already lol01:52
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Riddellrohan: "whenever he has enough packages", so test these then I'll upload to ktown and he'll have packages :)01:53
Hobbsee130 upgrades, nice01:53
afterhomeRiddell: no dapper repos yet ;P01:53
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rohanRiddell: ok :)01:53
Hobbseelooking forward to dapper repos...01:53
Riddellafterhome: dapper doesn't seem to be building anything or I would upload01:53
rohananyone know of a best method to remove gnome completely ?01:53
Hobbseereformat :P01:53
Hobbseeno, dont do that01:53
Hobbseelol01:53
afterhomeHobbsee: beat ya. 278 updates01:54
Hobbseesheesh!01:54
apokryphosRiddell: who do we owe all the great 64-bit packs too? Really great to have them being released at the same time as of late :D01:54
Hobbseewhat'd you update from?01:54
apokryphos*to01:54
afterhomeHobbsee: rc1 and dapper ;)01:54
Hobbseetogether?01:54
Riddellrohan: remove libgtk201:54
afterhomeHobbsee: yup01:54
Riddellafterhome: my uber fast amd64 with go faster LEDs01:54
Hobbseehmmm...ok then01:54
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Hobbseeheh01:55
rohanRiddell: ok. but then i will lose stuff like firefox .. and may have some lefotver libs01:55
Hobbseewish this had go faster LED's01:55
Hobbseerohan: just grab it again, it'll cope :P01:55
apokryphosRiddell: oh you got one? Nice :)01:55
Riddellrohan: probably indicates that removing all of gnome is not what you want to do then01:55
apokryphosrohan: leftover libs can be easily handled with debfoster/deborphan -- but the firefox in ubuntu's repos uses gnome libs01:56
rohanHobbsee: lol, ok. or i will use synaptic.01:56
rohanapokryphos: ok.01:56
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rohanRiddell: yes... i am not yet a qt purist :(01:56
HobbseeRiddell: in #kubuntu-devel, kubuntu is spelt wrong in the topic :P01:56
apokryphosHobbsee: your chance to fix it ;-)01:57
Hobbseeooh can i?01:57
Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee :) hi apokryphos ;)01:57
Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser!01:57
apokryphoshey01:57
Kamping_Kaiserhi :)01:57
apokryphosKamping_Kaiser: how's it going? 8)01:57
apokryphosHobbsee: yup01:57
Kamping_Kaisernot bad mate, self? (online, so it's not all bad :D)01:58
afterhomeHobbsee: youve been promoted again ;)01:58
Hobbseeexcellent...i thought that was ops only01:58
Hobbseefixed it :)01:58
Hobbseeafterhome: ooh have i? 01:58
Kamping_Kaiserhi afterhome01:58
afterhomelol01:58
afterhomehi Kamping_Kaiser 01:58
Hobbseei'd like ops too lol, but this is good for now01:58
apokryphosKamping_Kaiser: good. Weekend! How could I possibly feel down? ;-)01:58
Hobbsee1 min 40....01:59
afterhomebanging it down with snow here right now01:59
Kamping_Kaiser;) you could have a meeting both days lik eme01:59
apokryphosHobbsee: that only applies when channel mode is set to +t 01:59
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Hobbseethink i have them turned off01:59
apokryphosHobbsee: your IRC client should show it, but if not: /mode #channel02:00
Hobbseei see02:00
Hobbseeoh, that...yes02:00
Hobbseeunpacking....02:01
Hobbseewhat's the command to restart kde, if you dont want to reboot?02:01
Hobbseekillall kdm?02:01
dipnlikHobbsee: ctrl alt backspace?02:01
Hobbseenah, i think there's an actual command that's got something to do with kdm...02:02
Hobbseebut i'll try that first02:02
apokryphossudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart02:02
Kamping_Kaiseryour thinking /etc/init.d/kdm restart02:02
Kamping_Kaisermm. what he said ;P02:02
Hobbseeyeah, that's it02:02
Kamping_Kaisero_002:02
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Kamping_Kaiser;)02:03
rohanapokryphos could have used screen02:03
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Hobbseeoh02:03
HobbseeUnpacking replacement umbrello ...02:03
HobbseeErrors were encountered while processing:02:03
Hobbsee /var/cache/apt/archives/libcvsservice0_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb02:03
HobbseeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:03
apokryphosme too02:03
apokryphoshttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43772502:03
apokryphosRiddell: 8)02:03
rohanthere have to be more errors02:03
rohanonly that much ?02:04
Hobbseeyes02:04
apokryphosif you select to install it manually you get more output (see pastebin)02:04
Kamping_Kaiserheh. 64s02:04
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Kamping_Kaiserdpkg it ;)02:04
apokryphosinstalling it isn't a problem; Riddell just asked for testing, so he may wanna know :P02:05
Hobbseesecond try at upgrade, and it seems to upgrade...02:05
apokryphoss/installing/getting around it/02:05
l3m apokryphos dpkg -i --force-overwrite <packagename>02:05
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:05
apokryphosl3m: as I said, it's easy to get around 8)02:05
Kamping_Kaiserstop distracting me from work :P02:05
HobbseeRiddell: you know that kdebase is broken, i take it?02:05
apokryphosHobbsee: how?02:06
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HobbseeRiddell: apokryphos http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43772802:06
apokryphosHobbsee: you don't have kubuntu-desktop installed?02:07
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: try apt-get -f install02:07
Hobbseeer...for some reason, i didnt02:07
apokryphosand you should be doing dist-upgrade02:07
apokryphos(but with k-desktop first)02:07
afterhomeaha..... :)02:07
Hobbseeyeah, doing that now lol02:07
Kamping_Kaiserew, you don't upgrade :S02:07
rohanoh, i cant install kde rc2 if i dont have kde already ? i am on pure gnome atm02:08
apokryphosalso, kdebase doesn't actually come with kubuntu-desktop02:08
apokryphosit selects only various parts of it (IIRC)02:08
rohanRiddell: when you have time, can you please make amarok 1.3.6 / 1.3.5 with xine engine ?02:08
apokryphosthings like kpersonalizer aren't installed etc02:08
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Hobbseestill broken...02:08
apokryphosrohan: it already does have; see the announcement02:09
rohanapokryphos: not the xine engine, iirc02:09
apokryphosyup, it's there02:09
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rohan*checks*02:09
afterhomewhat is the real diff between an upgrade and a dist-upgrade?02:09
Hobbseeback in a sec, i hope02:09
Kamping_Kaiserafterhome: dist-upgrade wont break your system ;)02:09
Kamping_Kaiserafterhome: dist-upgrade resolvs dependancies02:10
Kamping_Kaiserk Hobbsee02:10
afterhomeohhh.02:10
afterhomek02:10
rohanarghh.. on kubuntu site alt-d takes me to download page!02:10
apokryphosafterhome: good description in the man page02:10
afterhomedont care anyway. dapper X is broken right now :)02:10
Kamping_Kaiser 5.1 .:Software Installed on the Server:. 02:10
Kamping_KaiserUbuntu "Breezy" Server 5.10, or Debian 3.1 ("Sarge").   02:10
Kamping_Kaiserafterhome: is it?02:10
afterhomeyes sir it is ;)02:11
Kamping_Kaiserlol. i wont find out for 2 or 3 days02:11
apokryphosrohan: hm, alt+d is duplicate window isn't it?02:11
Kamping_Kaisermy ISP mirror every 3 days02:11
afterhomethey mirror? you cant get it direct?02:11
rohanapokryphos: on firefox, it is "select address bar"02:11
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Kamping_Kaiserafterhome: yeh, they mirror. fast connection, and unmetered02:11
Kamping_Kaiserwb Hobbsee02:11
Kamping_Kaiser*hugs*02:11
Hobbseeright, well that updated02:11
apokryphosrohan: ah, no; that's F6 on Konq02:12
Hobbsee*hugs Kamping_Kaiser in return*02:12
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:12
rohanapokryphos: ok. i dont use konq :)02:12
Hobbseenow, what are we testing?02:12
apokryphosrohan: very easy to change :)02:12
rohanapokryphos: yes, but its the site thats the problem02:12
HobbseeRiddell: what would you like tested?02:12
afterhomekde? :P02:12
Hobbseewell, der lol02:13
Hobbseeanything in particular?02:13
apokryphosrohan: what url exactly?02:13
rohanapokryphos: kubuntu.org02:13
Hobbseeeven force install of kdebase doesnt work02:13
afterhomeubotu: cigarette02:13
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but afterhome needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)02:13
afterhomeubotu: good bot02:14
ubotu:)02:14
apokryphosrohan: hm, no... Ctrl+D is duplicate window. Alt+D isn't assigned anything -- on k.org it doesn't download anything for me. Weird :/02:14
Kamping_Kaiserafterhome:  :)02:14
afterhomehehe02:14
Hobbseealt d for me now goes to #kde02:14
rohanapokryphos: alt-d02:14
afterhomea first for me... ssh to home and connect via irsii :)02:14
afterhomemuchas fun02:14
apokryphosrohan: letters in kde shortcuts aren't case sensitive :)02:15
Hobbseehaha02:15
Hobbseenice02:15
Hobbseemedia:// bug is still there02:15
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afterhomethats what makes kde great!02:16
Hobbseebut the drag and drop bug is fixed - yay!02:16
rohanapokryphos: dude, its a kubuntu.org problem. try pressing ctrl-d in kubuntu.org window in firefox02:16
afterhomelike gnome crashing on boot nad having no panel or foot to click on... makes it what it is ;)02:16
rohanoops02:16
Hobbsee!kde3.5problems02:16
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5problems is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems02:16
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Kamping_Kaiser!lart afterhome02:17
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Kamping_Kaiser:P02:17
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Hobbseeoops, wrong chan lol02:17
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Kamping_Kaiserlol02:18
Hobbseeput it in kubuntu offtopic first...02:18
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afterhomebot!02:18
RiddellHobbsee: that it installs and works02:19
rohanapokryphos: dude, its a kubuntu.org problem. try pressing ctrl-d in kubuntu.org window in firefox02:19
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naliothaftertaf: you should hope it's not a bot in #kubuntu 02:19
apokryphosrohan: ctrl+d now? I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm saying I can't reproduce it02:19
HobbseeRiddell: seems to, media:// bug is still there02:19
rohanoh my god02:20
aftertafwhat do you mean nalioth ?02:20
RiddellHobbsee: which bug?02:20
rohani am going crazy02:20
rohanapokryphos: i am sorry, i meant alt-d02:20
apokryphosyup, don't see it02:20
rohanstrange02:20
rohani am in gnome, using firefox02:20
naliothaftertaf: this is #kubuntu. i've yet to see one of the current infestation of spambots in here02:20
apokryphoshoorah! Kopete "Identity" bug not there :D02:20
aftertafoh...; lol yeah;02:20
rohanits logical, that alt-d takes to download, but its irritating all the same02:20
aftertaflooked like one though.02:20
HobbseeRiddell: hard drives dont show up in media:// but they do in /media02:21
naliothaftertaf: lots of users have seemingly random nicks02:21
apokryphosrohan: Alt+D is not assigned any shortcut in Konqueror by default02:21
RiddellHobbsee: yes, that's expected, I'll look into it at some point02:21
aftertafto assume randomness is to pretend to have knowledge of the said person..... ;) true02:21
apokryphosahh! You mean Ctrl, and then D02:21
apokryphosyou guys are talking about accesskeys, not Konqueror shortcuts02:21
rohanapokryphos: i dont use konq. i am sure that kubuntu.org is programmed to be that way. its alt-d in firefox02:21
HobbseeRiddell: open up konq, go to storage media, brings up empty window as media:/ yet /media/ (the same location, i expect) brings up the correct partitions, etc02:21
apokryphosrohan: Ctrl, and then D takes you to download area of kubuntu.org because that's the accesskey assigned to the anchor tag02:22
rohanapokryphos: maybe kubuntu.org doesnt capture keystrokes for konq, or konq doesnt support that feature02:22
rohanapokryphos: yes.02:22
Riddellmedia:/ and /media are very different02:22
HobbseeRiddell: also, they're thinking that this is only relevant to the kubuntu packages of 3.5 - http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116078 not sure if you want to try and sort that out at some point02:22
rohanapokryphos: thats what .. 02:22
Hobbseeare they?02:22
rohanapokryphos: its alt-d in firefox02:22
apokryphosrohan: it's not a konqueror shortcut :D02:22
apokryphosok02:22
rohanand ctrl-d crashes firefox02:22
rohanarghhh!02:23
apokryphos:-O02:23
aftertaf /media is a mount point.02:23
aftertafand a directory02:23
apokryphosrohan: stick to opera/konqueror :P02:23
rohanapokryphos: :)02:23
Hobbseeah, true02:23
apokryphosKopete in 3.5 has webcam support? I thought it didn't make it in, in time :-O02:23
Hobbseelooks like it does, not tried it though02:24
aftertafyayyyyyyy02:24
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apokryphosvery very cool02:24
Hobbseehas nudges and buzzes, too02:24
aftertafhow msn !02:24
Hobbseewhich dont shake the entire screen - yay to kopete!02:24
aftertafyay02:24
aftertaflol02:24
Hobbseethat always annoys me when i have to use msn lol...always...02:24
apokryphosand smooth scrolling :D02:24
aftertaf:me sings away bug bug squish squish02:24
Hobbseethat too02:24
Hobbseehehe02:24
Hobbseeguess bug day is over around now...02:25
apokryphosRiddell: any chance of eventually getting "smooth scrolling in all apps". Tried suse the other day which had it and it made for a good experience :)02:25
Hobbseeseeing as  it's the 26th now02:25
rohanapokryphos: smooth scrolling ? whats that ?02:25
rohanis kde rc2 so broken that i mustnt use it ?02:25
rohanbecause i am tempted02:25
Hobbseerohan: doesnt seem broken here02:25
apokryphosit's not broken really at all02:25
rohananyone read my "scrap kubuntu" message on sounder ?02:26
apokryphosas coolo said -- "rock solid"02:26
Hobbseeyou see a couple of people here who have just updated, who are freely chatting, and not cursing, so it probably means it's pretty good02:26
Hobbseeyeah02:26
rohanapokryphos: ok. 02:26
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rohani will install kde rc2 then02:26
Riddellapokryphos: I can look into it but I've heard their patch has beasties02:26
shirasehi there02:26
rohanHobbsee: lol02:26
Hobbseethe only way i knew it had updated was by changing the Kmenu icon back to the original, instead of the butterfly that was there before02:26
rohananyone read my "scrap kubuntu" message on sounder ? and anyone agree with me ?02:27
Hobbseehey shirase 02:27
shiraseHobbsee could you help me...i'm trying to install the ati-driver under 6.04 dapper02:27
apokryphosRiddell: oh ok. And one other random point: in normal Konq, when you hit F2 (rename), it really shouldn't highlight the extension too, I think. Konq seems to have this right in Right-Click -> Properties, but it was missed for normal rename :-O02:27
Hobbsee!ati02:27
ubotufrom memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1002:27
Hobbseeshirase: i doubt i could help - i dont have an ati card, but i know others here do02:28
Riddellapokryphos: KDE happily accepts all patches :)02:28
shiraseubotu i don't have a running xserver... it won't start02:28
ubotushirase: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:28
rohanRiddell: lol02:28
apokryphosI've seen a patch for it somewhere I think; I'll try to track it down02:29
aftertafshirase: you on dapper by any chance?02:29
shiraseaftertaf yes02:29
Hobbseeaftertaf: indeed, that was originally there02:29
aftertafshirase: x is borked in dapper right now.02:29
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Kamping_Kaiserlol02:30
shiraseaftertaf so there's no chance to get my ati crad up?02:30
Kamping_Kaiserwe doing the 7 transition?02:31
naliothubotu: tell shirase about yourself02:31
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aftertafKamping_Kaiser: i think so02:32
Hobbseeexcellent - akregator now starts on boot - it didnt seem to before when i installed and upgraded straight to rc102:32
Kamping_Kaiserhm. thought it wasnt for a while02:32
Kamping_Kaiserand bugger02:32
Kamping_Kaiseri just got x working right, now it's going to break :|02:32
Hobbseelol02:33
aftertafyay02:33
aftertafomg   thunder and snow and lightning02:33
aftertafwhy do i have an hour's drive home ?? :/02:33
Hobbseeaftertaf: try coming home in a hot air baloon or something?02:33
Hobbseeeek02:34
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: you can comme over here02:34
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aftertafwould like to.....02:36
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: invite everyone over for dinner or something lol02:36
Hobbseeanyway, must go to bed, before i fall asleep at the computer, and type interesting things with my forehead....02:36
Kamping_Kaiseryour all invited02:37
Hobbseenight all...02:37
Kamping_Kaiserok bye Hobbsee02:37
Hobbseeoh goody - send me a plane ticket? 02:37
Hobbsee:P02:37
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: I'll drop by on my way home from NZ :P02:37
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Hobbseeoh goody :P02:37
Hobbseemake sure you get the right state - new south wales lol02:37
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Hobbseenight!02:38
aftertafwork? saturday? that sux02:38
Riddellso who has rc2 installed? and were there any problems?02:38
Kamping_Kaiseryeh02:38
aftertafme, but no X so cant say.....02:39
Kamping_Kaiserbut it could be sunday, because it's today for 9 minutes ;)02:39
aftertafRiddell:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libKTTSD_Lib.la', which is also in package kttsd02:40
Riddellaftertaf: what is trying to overwrite?02:40
apokryphosRiddell: check my pastebin above02:41
apokryphospastebin down *again* :/02:42
naliothapokryphos: which one? there's hundreds02:42
apokryphosnalioth: .com02:42
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aftertafksayit and kttsd Riddell 02:43
rohanbtw, anyone know why my .fluxbox/startup file is not exec-ed on login on ubuntu ? 02:43
rohanit works on slackware and arch02:43
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mrmarcelhi02:49
Kamping_Kaiserhi mate02:49
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phimichallo02:59
xtacocorexubotu: help with mount02:59
xtacocorexwell that didn't work02:59
xtacocorexgood morning phimic02:59
Kamping_Kaiserhi xtacocorex, hi phimic02:59
xtacocorexgood morning Kamping_Kaiser03:00
phimicit is possible to append a custom dsdt on the kernel comman line or must i rebuild a initial ramdisk?03:00
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xtacocorexphimic: you lost me after dsdt03:00
Kamping_Kaisernot sure phimic03:00
Kamping_Kaiserxtacocorex: whatd o you need help with?03:00
Kamping_Kaiser*do you03:00
xtacocorexKamping_Kaiser: nope, i'm just chilling now and was testing out the help bot to see how to better use it03:01
Kamping_Kaiserah cool03:01
Kamping_Kaiserhm. it's always scary when your 130$ off buget03:02
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yannzyou have to put the $-sign in front of your money, so they don't spill.03:02
xtacocorexhaha03:03
Kamping_Kaiserheh03:03
xtacocorex!ubotu03:05
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.03:05
xtacocorexnice, a whole help guide on the bot03:05
Kamping_Kaiseryep. it's cool03:06
xtacocorexi forgot how to mount iso images and someone asked last night so i tried using the bot to tell them, but the only think i knew was the ! command03:07
Kamping_Kaiserheh03:08
Kamping_Kaiser!!03:08
ubotu! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me03:08
xtacocorexhaha03:08
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Kamping_Kaiser;) bit a lag there03:09
xtacocorexwhen did they start using the bot?03:09
Kamping_Kaisernot sure. at least 9 months ago, that's when i started coming here a lot03:10
Kamping_Kaisermake that 10 months03:10
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xtacocorexreally, i haven't seen it until yesterday03:11
xtacocorexand i just remembered a question03:11
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:11
xtacocorexi got the 6000+ fonts from kde-apps and i put them in subdirectories based on starting letter of the font, so arial would go in folder a03:11
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xtacocorexi made an installer script that would copy all the fonts to /usr/share/fonts03:12
xtacocorexsince i reinstalled on sunday, i can't see them system wide03:12
xtacocorexit worked in hoary and breezy before i screwed it up last friday03:13
Kamping_Kaiserrun ls -lh on the dirs and check they are are read+executealb03:13
xtacocorexin /usr/share/fonts or in the folder that i have in my home directory?03:14
Kamping_Kaiser /usr/share/fonts03:14
xtacocorexjust -rwx------03:15
Kamping_Kaisertry `ls -lh /usr/share/fonts`03:15
xtacocorexthat was for folder /usr/share/fonts/a03:15
Kamping_Kaiserwho owns the directory?03:15
xtacocorexmy xorg.conf file didn't have the line: FontPath  "unix:/7100" so i added that03:16
xtacocorexroot owns in03:16
Kamping_Kaiserthat's probably the problem then03:17
Kamping_Kaiseryou want at least 555 on that dir, maybe 75503:17
Kamping_Kaiser(if you want root to write)03:17
xtacocorexi just checked the font wiki and it said something about enabling bitmap fonts with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig03:18
xtacocorexshould i run that03:18
naliothxtacocorex: do you have those types of font?03:18
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xtacocorexnalioth: they're ttf03:18
xtacocorexi just saw that section in the wiki so i'm going to try to chown them according to that03:19
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naliothxtacocorex: then you dont need to dpkg anything03:20
xtacocorexnalioth: ok03:21
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carsteni try to compile scummvm and i get an error message "sudo apt-get build-dep scummvm" -> "couldnt open /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_source_Sources - open"03:28
naliothcarsten: "sudo apt-get update"03:28
carstennalioth: i think we both talked yesterday?03:29
naliothcarsten: i'm sure we have.03:29
carstennalioth: my dsl line broke down, and i fell asleep waiting for it to come back up :(03:29
naliothcarsten: that doesnt sound good03:30
xtacocorexubotu tell xtacocorex about chmod03:30
xtacocorexthat was another test of the bot03:31
carstenbut it is all fixed now. and the torrents run as smooth as ever :)03:31
naliothcarsten: that sounds better03:31
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naliothxtacocorex: did the bot tell you to not msg yourself?03:31
xtacocorexyeah03:31
Riddellkdeaccessibility should be fixed, you'll need to update and rm /var/cache/apt/archive/ksayit*03:32
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carstenwhoever made kubuntu, he really impressed me. Yesterday I put my old 120 GB PATA drive in an external Firewire Case, and powered it up and connected it to my firewire controller, and Kubunut automatically found the device, and I could access all files, there was no problem. (the HD was formatted with NTFS) .. impressive03:37
TROGDOR42Nice03:37
carstenthe powerbook of a friend of mine was not able to accomplish that.03:37
TROGDOR42That would probably apply to Ubuntu as well03:37
carstenTROGDOR42: guess so. but i never used the non-k version03:38
TROGDOR42carsten:Yeah, I can't stand GNOME03:38
carstenTROGDOR42: i hve nothing against gnome. I just like this KDE all in one idea. even if it is a performance hog (so i've been told)03:39
TROGDOR42carsten: I don't mean I have something against GNOME, just that I prefer KDE.03:40
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carstenTROGDOR42: i see. I am basically a Linux Noob. I am using a fli4l router like 3 years now and it has a galactical uptime. no crashes, no problems, perfect. I always played with the thought of using linux, but the only distro i tried (a lot of times) was suse. and i was never very happy with it, because it never ran like i  wanted it to.. oh "sudo apt-get build-dep scummvm" just finished03:42
carstennow : "auto-apt run ./configure" in the scummvm folder, right?03:44
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naliothcarsten: sound's good to me03:47
TROGDOR42carsten:  How long have you been using Linux then?03:48
carstennalioth: he created config.h and config.mak. no errors. now i should use checkinstall ? right?03:48
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naliothcarsten: try make03:48
naliothcarsten: and then "sudo checkinstall"03:48
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carstenTROGDOR42: as an cheap flexible internet router ? 3 1/2 years i guess (syslinux..) as a full blown desktop replacement for xp (tries = 20 all suse) but now with never come back option. my xp partition on this new HD is 4.5 GB in size. all the rest 195GB is all kubuntu03:49
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TROGDOR42Nice03:50
TROGDOR42I've only been using Linux since Septemberish03:50
=== l3m luuuuuuuves linux ;)
carstenTROGDOR42: so, i always tried suse on some old boxen, like real old hardware. where sometimes memtest failed. and all that. now i only have kubuntu. I told myself. "no excuses, lets do this", okay, tring make now "./make" ?03:51
TROGDOR42Anybody know how I can get Windoze Media Player capabilities in Linux (Konqueror and/or Firefox)03:51
l3mmake03:51
l3mno ./03:51
naliothcarsten: just "make"03:52
l3m./command = execute command in local directory03:52
naliothcarsten: ./make will fail03:52
l3mbut make is a system program, e.g. it's in /bin, /usr/bin or so 03:52
l3mand therefore doesn't need ./ 03:52
l3m;)03:52
carsteni see. ./ only for executables (or scripts) in the current dir. like .03:52
naliothcarsten: ./ is for things NOT in your path03:53
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TROGDOR42Anybody know how to get Windoze media working in Linux?03:54
TROGDOR42I can't play movie trailers and stuff...03:54
l3mmplayer03:54
l3m!w32codecs03:55
ubotuI heard w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/03:55
l3m!mplayer03:55
ubotu[mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106103:55
TROGDOR42Thank you03:55
l3mmplayer with w32codecs will play everything ;)03:55
carstenTROGDOR42: i learned a lot in this week. like, how i can change monitor frequencies. how to update my kubuntu. how to update the video driver, how to install stuff via adept and via debian .deb files. and now i am learning how to compile all the source. i think that this is really important to know in the *nix world, and THE biggest difference to WIN.03:55
naliothl3m: "almost" everything03:55
TROGDOR42Can I apt-get the w32 codecs?03:56
naliothubotu: tell TROGDOR42 about w32codecs03:56
l3mnalioth: well more than windows media player can play ;)03:56
naliothl3m: but not all microsoft codecs03:56
l3mTROGDOR42: seveas apt source is broken atm03:56
l3mTROGDOR42: but you should be able to get it over cipherpunk03:57
l3mhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:57
carstenokay. make seemed to work, i cant see any errormessages, i try "sudo checkinstall" now03:57
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carstenhmm he asks me : "Should I create a default set of package docs?  [y] :" ? i think yes is fine?03:58
xtacocorexgot my font problem fixed, it was the permissions that were wrong03:58
nalioth_zZzcarsten: yes is fine03:59
aftertafwell dapper is stil borked.04:00
carstenhehe, now i should write my description for the package. 04:00
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aftertafno X fun for me04:00
TROGDOR42Well, it's like mega-beta now04:00
nalioth_zZzaftertaf: irssi is do bomb, man04:01
aftertafi gather that ;)04:01
TROGDOR42Where do I put this list I got from SourceOMatic?04:01
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aftertafxinit connection error : refused...04:01
nalioth_zZzaftertaf: if you run irssi in a screen session, you'll never havta worry about loggin off of irc, or ghosts or anything like that04:01
carstenWOW i think i just made my OWN .deb package. 04:02
nalioth_zZzTROGDOR42: /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
nalioth_zZzcarsten: you did you did04:02
mtupperhey all, i am a newbie and had a wierd thing happen to me that I dont know how to fix... the panel disappeared!  can anybody tell me how to get it back?04:02
TROGDOR42nanolith_zZz: Thanks04:02
nalioth_zZzcarsten: key words: "your own"04:02
aftertafnalioth_zZz: hehe04:02
carstennalioth_zZz: thanks, i think i just have to install the deb file now.04:02
nalioth_zZznight all04:02
TROGDOR42Gnight04:03
nalioth_zZzcarsten: checkinstall did it for you04:03
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nalioth_zZzcarsten: all you have to do is put the .deb away somewhere for safe keeping04:03
carstennalioth_zZz: youre right, ist already installed ! WOW. that was not too hard ! Now i compile everything Muhahahar (evil laugh)04:03
nalioth_zZzcarsten: i'll see you later, in CarstenOS04:04
nalioth_zZzb4n04:04
TROGDOR42b4n04:04
carstenhehe b4n?04:04
carstenbeforen?04:04
TROGDOR42bye for now i believe.04:06
carstenTROGDOR42: ahh thx, i didnt know that.04:06
TROGDOR42lol04:06
carsteni just started scummvm ! it works. now all i have to do is copy the games from this old harddrive04:07
aftertafwhats the sed command again to change a string in a text file?04:07
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l3ms/orig/new/04:10
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l3mlike in vi04:10
TROGDOR42BRB04:10
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aeon17xWhy is KWrite not included in the menus? I always see Kate around, but I had to create a shortcut for KWrite.04:18
l3mbecause kwrite is crap and only in kde for historical reasons. use kate ,)04:19
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bl3ssingwhy can't I get into the Adept software, even I've typed my root password in the right way ...? They told me that I  the ATP Database will be opened in read-only mode ... :(04:20
bl3ssinghelloooooooooooooooooo, is there anybody there?04:21
bl3ssingor ... eveyrbody's sleeping?04:21
bl3ssing:-))04:21
TROGDOR42That happened to me, but I forgot how I fixed it.04:22
bl3ssinglol TROGDOR42 04:22
bl3ssing:-)04:22
bl3ssingI need an answer, not an excuse ... or forget thing ... Hahahha04:22
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bl3ssingwhy can't I get into the Adept software, even I've typed my root password in the right way ...? They told me that I  the ATP Database will be opened in read-only mode ... :(04:22
TROGDOR42Try using apt-get04:22
carstenbl3ssing: i had the problem too04:22
carstenbl3ssing: there is an crashed adept process in your system04:23
bl3ssingso ... many people has the same pbs ... How should we fix this? Cause it doesn't hear it very well ...04:23
bl3ssingwhat can I do carsten ?04:23
carstenbl3ssing: open a console and enter "ps -efa | grep adept"04:23
bl3ssingshould I ... delete my adept?04:23
bl3ssingok ...04:23
bl3ssingand than?04:23
l3mbl3ssing: because you have to enter your user password, nto your root pw04:23
carstenbl3ssing: no, jsut kill it04:23
l3mbl3ssing: there is no root04:23
l3m;)04:23
l3m!sudo04:23
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:23
l3mubotu tell bl3ssing about sudo04:24
carstenbl3ssing: enter "kill <number>"04:24
bl3ssingsorry, I have kubutu, not ubutu.04:24
bl3ssing:-)04:24
l3mcarsten: i don't thing his adept crashed04:24
bl3ssingwhich number carsten ?04:24
TROGDOR42Kubuntu is just like Ubuntu04:25
carstenokay. i am not sure about this04:25
carstenwhat did "ps -efa | grep adept" say?04:25
TROGDOR42Just KDE instead, so anything on UbuntuGuide.org that isn't about GNOME applies to Kubuntu04:25
l3mkubuntu IS ubuntu, actually, except for some defaults like the DE ;)04:25
carstenmore then 1 result?04:25
bl3ssingHOW CAN i ENTER MY USER PASSWORD INTO MY ROOT PW? l3m ?04:26
TROGDOR42huh?04:26
TROGDOR42When it comes up with that window asking for a password, just put in your user pw04:26
bl3ssingcarsten, I didn't try with ps -efa|grep adept ... yet04:26
l3mbl3ssing: you don't04:27
carstenbl3ssing: dont be afraid ps only shows processes.04:27
l3mbl3ssing: please don't scream04:27
l3mbl3ssing: did you read what ubotu told you to? 04:27
l3mi guess not. please read that ;)04:27
bl3ssingno04:27
bl3ssinghow can I read ...?04:27
bl3ssingwhere from?04:27
l3mubotu tell bl3ssing about sudo04:27
LjLbl3ssing: i'm not sure what you're doing, but if you're simple trying to kill a process called "adept", "killall adept" will do04:27
LjLbl3ssing: (or "sudo killall adept", more likely in the case of adept)04:27
bl3ssingshall I do this .. LjL ?04:28
l3mLjL: he doesn't. he just entered his root password instead of user password, and didn't read the RootSudo text i gave him04:28
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l3m!sudo04:28
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:28
l3m^^ bl3ssing read this!04:28
LjLl3m: hmm and why does he have a root password to start with?04:28
l3mLjL: dunno, but if you install kubuntu with "expert" you get asked for one... 04:28
LjLaw04:29
bl3ssingthere's nothing about ADEPT?04:29
bl3ssingthere...04:29
TROGDOR42adept is Kubuntu only i believe.04:29
TROGDOR42can i do one of deze:04:29
TROGDOR42!adept04:29
ubotuAdept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html04:29
l3mbl3ssing: no, but about why you don't have to use your root password04:29
bl3ssingmy root password is the same with user password04:29
bl3ssingshall I change them?04:29
bl3ssingor ...?04:29
bl3ssingI mean ... my user password should be different than the root one?04:30
LjLwell you shouldn't *have* a root password in the first place, not sure if removing it now will make things as they would have been if you just started without having one, thought04:30
bl3ssingor ...?04:30
LjLbl3ssing: your root password should definitely be different from your user password. however, in ubuntu, you're simply supposed to *not have* a root password04:31
l3mbl3ssing: whenever a graphical admin tool in kubuntu asks you for the password, type in your user password04:31
bl3ssingreally LjL ? wow ... can I be a root without having a password? than ... how can I install any software when I'll need it on my computer, if I won't be a root one? 04:31
LjL!sudo04:31
ubotuI heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:31
LjL!root04:31
uboturoot is probably rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:31
l3mLjL: i pasted himi that link4 times alreadya04:31
l3mhe is not able to read it, it seems04:31
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LjLl3m: anyway, i'm not sure using his user password in adept (and stuff) will work now that he's got a root password set04:32
bl3ssingl3m, can't you see that LjL is so kind and ... he's not sending me just trying by myself to find the info I need to ..., but he's actually making me understanding that I'll need to do some basically things, than ... perhaps I'll go for reading...?04:33
bl3ssing:-)04:33
LjLl3m: actually, i think it will rather *not* work04:33
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bl3ssingok LjL , I'll remove my root pass04:33
bl3ssing:-)04:33
LjLbl3ssing: no, wait04:33
bl3ssingk04:33
bl3ssingI'll be waiiting04:33
LjLbl3ssing: first thing, try running "sudo ls" in a shell04:33
bl3ssingk04:33
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LjLbl3ssing: and be sure that it works04:33
l3mbl3ssing: don't remove anything04:33
bl3ssingok ...04:33
bl3ssing:)04:33
l3mbl3ssing: just read the SuDO text and use sudo from now on04:34
bl3ssingk guys, I won't remove anything.04:34
l3mit's so simple04:34
l3m!sudo04:34
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ubotumethinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:34
bl3ssingbut ... l3m, I'm not so good in shell04:34
l3m^^ this text. read it. fully04:34
bl3ssingI need to know a lots of commands ... and I'm just a newbie04:34
LjLl3m: there is a page somewhere on the wiki, which says that if you enable the root password, you'll have problems accessing KControl and programs using kdesu04:34
bl3ssingI use linux only since 1 week04:34
l3mbl3ssing: this has nothing to to with shell usage04:34
bl3ssingso ...? :-(04:34
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jonoRiddell, ping04:34
l3mLjL: it's not true. i have root enable (expert install, as mentioned before), and everything works just fine04:34
Riddellgood afternoon jono04:34
jonoRiddell, hows things?04:34
bl3ssingLjL, , that's a very good info you're saying ... I didn't know about this ... :_((04:34
bl3ssingwhat can I do now?04:35
Riddellgroovy04:35
bl3ssing:-(004:35
l3mbl3ssing: did you read the RootSudo text?04:35
jonoRiddell, so, can I pester you to come to LUGRadio Live 2006 to do a talk and an exhibition stand for kde or kubuntu?04:35
l3mif the answer is no, don't ask anything until you read it.04:35
Riddelljono: certainly can04:35
LjLl3m: from the RootSudo page ("enabling the root account"): "Note: This is not recommended! It will break all the GUI admin tools"04:35
jonoRiddell, what would you like to talk about?04:35
bl3ssingshall I use this command to disable my root account?   ....      sudo passwd -l root04:35
bl3ssing?04:35
LjLl3m: it may work for you, but it definitely does break for some other people04:36
bl3ssingyes l3m, still ...04:36
l3mLjL: no. you just have to add the user to sudoers04:36
Riddelljono: when is it?04:36
jonoRiddell, 22nd and 23rd july 200604:36
l3mbl3ssing: enter this in your konsole: grep <yourusername> /etc/sudoers 04:36
LjLl3m: the user is already in sudoers by default, with a normal install... and what that page's talking about is a normal install04:36
Riddelljono: that's 8 months away?  this is forward planning is it not?04:37
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bl3ssingok guys. May I know what to do right now, pls?04:37
jonoRiddell, this is gonna be big :P04:37
l3mbl3ssing: enter this in your konsole: grep <yourusername> /etc/sudoers 04:37
jonoRiddell, two days, three rooms, a big party on the sat night, more speakers, more exhibits....04:37
bl3ssingI don't want whenever I'm ready to install/uninstall any software, to retype for 10000 times my root pass ...04:37
LjLl3m: no, he would need "sudo grep <username> /etc/sudoers"04:37
bl3ssingk04:37
LjLl3m: /etc/sudoers is read protected ;)04:37
l3mLjL: oh04:38
jonoRiddell, so I can note you down for a talk and exhibition stand?04:38
l3mbl3ssing: did you get an error message?04:38
Riddelljono: yes, I'll talk about KDE 4 and Kubuntu Dapper04:38
jonoRiddell, wicked :)04:38
Riddelland exhibit the same04:38
bl3ssingI've typed this command as LjL  said: "sudo grep <username> /etc/sudoers04:39
bl3ssingthere's no error04:39
bl3ssing:-)04:39
LjLbl3ssing: and what does it say?04:39
bl3ssingnothing at all04:39
LjLbl3ssing: "<username>" would be your own username, mind you ;)04:39
jonoRiddell, do you want a dual KDE/Kubuntu stand or seperate ones?04:39
LjLbl3ssing: "sudo grep bl3ssing /etc/sudoers", if bl3ssing is your usename04:39
l3mLjL: he's in sudoers04:40
Riddelljono: make it a KDE stand with kubuntu, and probably there will be an ubuntu stand with kubuntu as well04:40
l3mLjL: otherwise sudo grep wouldn't work04:40
LjLl3m: guess so, since sudo worked ;)04:40
l3mhehe04:40
jonoRiddell, cool04:40
LjLl3m: depends, maybe he's in a root shell04:40
l3mexactly hehe04:40
l3mLjL: hmm right04:40
l3mthis is kind of funny04:40
l3m;)04:40
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bl3ssingthere's nothing appearing here ...04:41
LjLbl3ssing: be sure that your username is in /etc/sudoers... when you're sure, i think you're safe either disabling the root account or changing its password04:41
LjLbl3ssing: well, try "sudo cat /etc/sudoers"04:41
l3mbl3ssing: ok. type "visudo" 04:41
LjLand see if your username appears04:41
l3mand then copy the line with root ALL and so, and replace "root" in the copied line with your username04:41
bl3ssing# /etc/sudoers04:41
bl3ssing#04:41
bl3ssing# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.04:41
bl3ssing#04:41
bl3ssing# See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.04:41
bl3ssing#04:41
bl3ssing# Host alias specification04:41
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bl3ssing# User alias specification04:41
bl3ssing# Cmnd alias specification04:41
jonoRiddell, cheers pal, job done :)04:41
l3mbl3ssing: STOP04:41
LjLno pasting here please04:41
bl3ssing# Defaults04:42
bl3ssingDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn04:42
bl3ssing# User privilege specification04:42
l3mbl3ssing: use the paste bin04:42
bl3ssingroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL04:42
LjLuse the pastebin or the #flood channel04:42
jonoRiddell, incidentally, keep up the awesome work :)04:42
bl3ssing# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges04:42
jonolater04:42
bl3ssing%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL04:42
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bl3ssingthis has appeared04:42
bl3ssing:-(04:42
bl3ssingsorry04:42
bl3ssingpaste bin?04:42
bl3ssingwhat is this l3m ?04:42
l3mread the topic04:42
LjLbl3ssing: look at the channel topic04:42
l3mbl3ssing: it's really hard to use linux when you don't read 04:42
LjLbl3ssing: anyway, you're not a sudoer, so do as l3m said04:42
bl3ssingl3m, I'm listening ... 04:43
l3mbl3ssing: type "visudo" and add this line: username ALL=(ALL)ALL04:43
bl3ssingsorry for the paste ... without the bin ..04:43
xtacocorexto jump on this topic, i don't have my root account activated and i'm not listed in /etc/sudoers and sudo still works for me04:43
l3mand username is obviously your actual username, not the string "username" ;)04:43
LjLxtacocorex: hey, you're right04:43
LjLi'm not a sudoer either04:43
LjLbut the admin groups is a sudoer04:44
bl3ssingdone l304:44
bl3ssingl3m, 04:44
LjLand i suppose we're in the admin group04:44
bl3ssingI've done it l3m ...04:44
bl3ssingwhat now?04:44
bl3ssing:-)04:44
xtacocorexLjL: i think that's how it defaults04:44
TROGDOR42g2g04:44
bl3ssingthanks for helping me.04:44
bl3ssingTROGDOR42, thanks for help.04:44
TROGDOR42Bye all04:44
LjLl3m: did you know this? perhaps he could have just added himself to "admin"04:44
=== kkathman-zzzzz is now known as kkathman
bl3ssingbye TROGDOR42 04:44
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l3mbl3ssing: now paste your /etc/sudoers into the pastebin04:44
l3mjust to be sure04:45
LjLdidn't even check my /etc/sudoers =)04:45
l3mand then try adept again04:45
xtacocorexdoes bl3ssing know about pastebin?04:45
LjLthis "admin" group idea isn't bad i think... avoids making people edit /etc/sudoers, which is a good thing (even though visudo should make that almost foolproof)04:46
LjLxtacocorex: now he does04:46
bl3ssingshall I write instead of username ... bl3ssing (if this is my username on my computer)?04:46
l3myes04:46
bl3ssingxtacocorex, I don't know, but I'll find it .. since l3m told me about the website where I can find it ... it is about http://kubuntu.pastebin.com04:46
xtacocorexbl3ssing: just wanted to make sure you got the info04:46
bl3ssinglol xtacocorex, l3m said something about that I have to read something to use linux. Otherwise ... :-(04:47
bl3ssingso I'm listening ... to him.04:47
bl3ssingor her?04:47
bl3ssing!04:47
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, bl3ssing04:47
xtacocorexbl3ssing: you'll learn that google and irc will become your friends04:48
l3mbl3ssing: i meant reading in general, like e.g. irc channel topics and links that friendly people like me and LjL give you ;)04:49
kkathmangood morning all (at least from my location) :)04:49
carstenmorning. 04:49
bl3ssing:-)04:50
xtacocorexcarsten: you get your mp3 stuff figured out last night?04:50
LjLkkathman: 16:50 here, but i woke up 1:50 hours ago, so good morning ;)04:50
bl3ssingthanks l3m; God bl3ss both of you and not only, but the others as well. I've really found here a lots of very very kind people ... Thanks to everyone.04:50
carsteni have a new question :) I have a folder with a lot of files like SQ1.san and i want all of them renamed to iw sq1.san . how can i accomplish that?04:50
LjLcarsten: i would write a script04:51
carstenxtacocorex: yeah, i used XMMS he played shoutcast streams just fine04:51
bl3ssingl3m, pastebin is that editbox where you can leave your text and ... than, your username can be typed ... and so on?04:51
l3mbl3ssing: yes04:51
l3mbl3ssing: and after you did that, you can paste a single link here in the chat, and we can all see all the text you've pasted there04:51
carstenLjL:  is there a website which explains how to write scripts ?04:51
l3mcarsten: www.python.org04:52
l3m;)04:52
LjLcarsten: try "for (( i = 1 ; i < MAX ; i++ )); do mv SQ${i}.san sq${i}.san; done"   where MAX is the maximum digit in your filenames04:52
bl3ssingoh, ok.04:52
LjLcarsten: google for "bash scripting", and click on the first link you find04:52
bl3ssingthanks l3m ...04:52
carstenl3m: i think that is a bit overkill for just renaming some files.04:52
LjLcarsten: that's a good guide04:52
bl3ssinghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43781504:52
bl3ssingwow ...04:52
bl3ssingthat's cool people.04:52
l3mcarsten: it's a lot easier to use python than bash scripts 04:52
bl3ssingwho was thinking about this idea? that's amazing ...04:52
l3mcarsten: especially if you don't know bash04:52
LjLbl3ssing: there is a missing space between (ALL) and ALL04:53
l3mbl3ssing: now try adept with your user password04:53
kkathmanl3m very true on the python thing btw04:53
=== l3m writes all his scripts in python
bl3ssingI've already done LjL  ... the space = available.04:54
=== LjL knows no Python (or Perl for that matter)
Stelepython rocks04:54
Stelei use it for everything too04:54
Steleeven an embedded scripting language in my apps04:54
=== kkathman is just learning python, but its a quick skill, very similar to most other languages I know
l3mi can't wait till there's a useable pysh ( bash replacement with py ) ;()04:54
carstenLjL: cool thanks, i can program a little bit (C / C++) and if I understand your skript correctly it will only rename the SQxx.san files. now I have more files in there additionally the files are not all called SQ3.san some are called sq3A.san I think i will take a look at python04:55
Riddelll3m: someone working on that?04:55
LjLkkathman: sure but, i won't learn a language until i've got enough motivation... just saying "ok, now i'll sit here and learn python" doesn't work for me04:55
l3mRiddell: there were some tries but i'm afraid all were given up early04:55
l3m;(04:55
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carstenthe guys at #scummvm tell me to use zsh. 04:55
l3mcarsten: check out mmv for quick multiple file renames04:55
l3mcarsten: sudo apt-get install mmv04:55
kkathmanLjL: I understand, but if you know C++ or PHP its a breeze to learn04:56
Steleyeah Python is so much easier to learn04:56
Steleprobably the easiest language to learn04:56
bl3ssingl3m, it is not working ... I 04:56
bl3ssingI'm not even asked for the root pass04:56
bl3ssing:(04:56
LjLcarsten: hmmm you could do this "for File in SQ*.san; do mv ${File} sq`cut -b 3- ${File}`; done"04:56
l3mLjL: well before you start writing a bash script, take the time and do it in python, and you'll never look back04:57
LjLcarsten: try this in a test directory first, though, not sure it's right04:57
l3mbl3ssing: press CTRL-ESC04:57
LjLkkathman: i know C, very little C++ and no PHP... though i'll have to learn PHP, as it's needed in a school project i must do04:57
bl3ssingl3m ... done. A new window has appeared. What can I do with it?04:57
jjesse504:57
l3mbl3ssing: hmm on second thought, close that window and press ALT-TAB until you find your open adept04:58
l3m;)04:58
bl3ssingthere's no Adept.04:58
bl3ssingI've pressed on Alt_Tab ...04:58
bl3ssingand nothing ...04:58
LjLcarsten: it was wrong, in fact... this seems to be correct:   for File in SQ*.san; do mv ${File} sq`echo ${File} | cut -b 3-`; done04:58
kkathmanLjL: I learned PHP over a Christmas holiday, then coded a site in the next 2 months...its a very nice language to learn, and lots of depth to it04:59
l3mbl3ssing: hmm maybe carsten was right from the beginning. type "ps ax | grep adept" in console04:59
LjLkkathman: though as far as i understand it, it's mostly (if not wholly) confined to HTML scripting, isn't it?04:59
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kkathmanLjL: but honestly the one thing I learned that really made be ultraproductive in web development was CSS04:59
l3m;)05:00
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kkathmanLjL: yes its a web -based language 05:00
bl3ssingl3m,  ... can you check this link pls?05:00
bl3ssinghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43783105:00
LjLkkathman: must say web development isn't something very exciting for me... but i'll have to learn some, as this project implies writing a database and a site using PHP (we must basically replicate eBay)05:00
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l3mbl3ssing: ok, you have an open kdesu window somewhere05:01
LjLkkathman: (it's a Database course)05:01
bl3ssingcarsten, .. that's great that you're a kubuntu EXPERT!!! God make you SUPER-EXPERT!05:01
kkathmanLjL: php + MySQL I imagine05:01
bl3ssinghow can I kill that kdesu window?05:01
l3mbl3ssing:  type alt-tab until you find that window. it's a window where you're asked for your password05:01
newzhi@all05:01
l3mbl3ssing: don't kill it. enter your pw 05:01
LjLkkathman: MySQL or PostgreSQL, that's the two they're teaching us... but we're actually free to use whatever we prefer05:01
bl3ssingthere's no window05:02
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bl3ssingmaybe it is another bug?05:02
bl3ssingor ...?05:02
bl3ssingI can't find it.05:02
l3mbl3ssing: there is one somewhere05:02
kkathmanLjL: I chose MySQL because there is so much written for it and PHP, plus, its the 2nd most widely used DB in the world now05:02
l3mbl3ssing: maybe you minimized it? 05:02
LjLkkathman: PHP is also optional, we can use whatever scripting language we like. of course, using MySQL/PostgreSQL and PHP will help, as they're the reference at school05:02
bl3ssingI've only the x-chat ...and the konsole now.05:02
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l3mbl3ssing: ok. what you do now: type "kill -9 8588" 05:03
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kkathmanLjL:  php5 is the best implementation to date, as it is heavily object-oriented05:03
l3mbl3ssing: you did log into kde with your user name, not with root, right? 05:03
kkathmanbut most hosts only support php4 right now...thats changing tho05:03
bl3ssingl3m ... will you be so kind checking this ... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43783405:03
bl3ssingright l3m.05:03
bl3ssingI want to log as a root.05:03
bl3ssinghow can I do it?05:03
LjLkkathman: yes, they've adviced us to use version 5. hope ubuntu has it (haven't checked yet), though i'll probably be using Debian for the final presentation05:03
LjLbl3ssing: just don't. type "sudo -i" to enter a root shell, or "sudo <command>" to execute a command as root05:04
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kkathmanLjL: For PHP, I'd suggest using Xampp, as it will install php5, MySQL, and apache painlessly on your system and set up your testing server with phpmyadmin05:05
l3mbl3ssing: don0t05:05
l3mbl3ssing: just believe me, you do not want to login as root anywhere05:05
LjLkkathman: hm will have a look at it, though i'm so used to Debian...05:05
kkathmanLjL: follow this:  http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html05:05
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os2maclogging in as root... is a BAD idea05:05
l3mbl3ssing: and type "kill -9 8588" in your console05:05
kkathmanbl3ssing: we have advised you many times not to log in as root05:06
bl3ssingbut l3m, why am I asked to type my root pass all the time I'm installing/uninstalling and htere's so many time I lose my time only by searching for the reason why I can't get into ADEPt ..05:06
bl3ssing:-(((05:06
l3mbl3ssing: if you would have listened to what many people in this channel said to you, you'd have solved the problem a long time ago. 05:06
kkathmanbl3ssing: for safety, more things are done to ruin a system by not realizing you are in root05:06
LjLbl3ssing: it should be asking for your *user* password, not your *root* password. if it isn't, then your ubuntu's still broken05:07
l3mbl3ssing: kubuntu NEVER asks you for your root password05:07
kkathmanl3m: the secret to learning, is to listen to others that have experience that you do not.05:07
kkathmanyes?05:07
bl3ssingyeas kkathman 05:07
bl3ssingyou're perfectly right.05:07
l3mkkathman: i know that ;) 05:07
kkathmannot you per se :)05:07
bl3ssingwell ... I'll be ears/eyes ...05:07
kkathmanl3m: that wasnt directed AT you... but to support you :)05:07
jonabytehello everyone...anyone get stuck installing at 50% testing network repository?05:08
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l3m;)05:08
kkathmanl3m but you kno that :)05:08
LjLbl3ssing: i suggest you test that your sudo *works correctly*, and when you're 100% sure it does, disable the root account05:08
l3mhrhr05:08
bl3ssinghow can I test it ... LjL ?05:08
l3mbl3ssing: the only problem is that you think you're asked for the root pw when in fact, you're asked for your user pw05:08
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bl3ssingI'll check it right now ... if you're telling me the way I have to check it?05:08
l3mbl3ssing: so, if kubuntu asks you for a password, ENTER THE USER PASSWORD05:08
l3mbl3ssing: and NEVER LOG IN AS ROOT ANYWHERE05:09
l3msorry for screaming05:09
bl3ssingk, I see l3m ...05:09
LjLbl3ssing: be sure you're *not* in a root shell. type "cat /etc/sudoers", that *MUST* give you an error. if it does, then type "sudo cat /etc/sudoers", it should ask for a password, and you should enter your *user* password05:09
kkathmanhehe05:09
bl3ssingthat's ok; anyway I can't hear you. :-))05:09
LjLbl3ssing: if it works (i.e. the /etc/sudoers file is shown), your sudo is working05:09
l3mLjL: he is in a root shell05:09
l3mall the time05:09
kkathmanbl3ssing: thats what we are afraid of05:09
LjLl3m, bl3ssing: then open a non-root shell05:09
bl3ssingyou're right05:09
bl3ssingI have an error05:09
bl3ssingPermission denied.05:09
bl3ssing:-)05:09
LjLbl3ssing: that's fine, now try with sudo05:10
bl3ssingl3m, I'm not.05:10
bl3ssing:-)05:10
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xtacocorex!forums05:11
bl3ssingwhat shall I try with sudo?05:11
LjLbl3ssing: remember it is asking for *your* password. IF AND ONLY IF it works, then you can type "sudo passwd -l root" to disable your root account05:11
LjLbl3ssing: "sudo cat /etc/sudoers". again, read what i wrote ;)05:11
bl3ssingk05:11
bl3ssing:-)05:11
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xtacocorex!ubotu05:11
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.05:11
bl3ssingLOL LjL  ... I pay a lot of attention at what you're typing LjL ... really.05:12
bl3ssing:)05:12
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LjLbl3ssing: hope so, 'cause if you do this wrong, you may end up locked out of your box...05:12
bl3ssingheheeh05:12
_ismaelhay alguien?05:12
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LjL!es05:12
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:12
xtacocorex!forum home05:13
ubotuxtacocorex: I don't know05:13
carstenhmmm i need to change my nick, i am not allowed to join #python if i am not identified, and carsten belongs to someone else05:13
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bl3ssingafter I've typed the sudo passwd -l root ... it has appeared here this message: Password changed.05:13
bl3ssingwhat should I do now?05:13
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LjLbl3ssing: nothing. now, if all is well, should should simply be able to type your *own* user password whenever Adept (or whatever) asks for a password05:13
xtacocorexubotu listvals forum05:14
bl3ssingthanks LjL ...05:14
bl3ssingI'll do it right now ...05:14
bl3ssinghope it's works ...05:14
LjLhope it's not MS Works05:14
bl3ssingnot ...05:14
bl3ssingit isn't working.05:14
ninHerhi all05:15
LjLno? is "sudo adept", from the shell, working?05:15
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bl3ssingand ... it is not appearing that windows where I should have inserted my pass ...05:15
bl3ssing:-(05:15
bl3ssingshall I try from the shell?05:15
LjLyes05:15
bl3ssingnope05:15
bl3ssingthe same05:15
bl3ssing:-(05:15
LjL"ps aux | grep adept"05:15
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LjLsee if anything appears there05:15
l3mbl3ssing: yes, that's because you didn't do what i told you three times to do in the last 10 minutes: namely, type "kill -9 8588" 05:16
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bl3ssingI've done it l3m ...05:16
bl3ssingtwice05:16
LjLbl3ssing: "sudo kill -9 8588"05:16
bl3ssingI'll do it third time right now, ok?05:16
bl3ssing:-)05:16
bl3ssingk05:16
clint-hi everyone, I'm going try opera for ubuntu on kubutu. should work.. : |05:16
l3mLjL: well he used to be in a root shell ;) 05:16
l3mLjL: according to what he posted05:16
l3min pastebin05:16
LjLl3m: suppose he's not anymore, as i've had him disable root...05:16
clint-still got to get me mp3, and mpeg, and dvd support in, and I will probably add the gnome packages05:16
LjLclient-: ask ubotu about RestrictedFormat to have mp3 and stuff working05:17
clint-hi bl3ssing , and l3m 05:17
clint-clint*05:17
LjLclint-: and, yes, opera for ubuntu will work on kubuntu, they're the same distribution05:17
LjLsorry05:17
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clint-i tried to just do the sudo apt-get install akode-mpeg gstreamer8.0-mad05:17
kkathmanclint-: be sure to get the static deb for Opera :)05:18
clint-but that didn't work, however I did update the adept on kubuntu 5.10, but maybe I need to install the synaptic05:18
bl3ssinghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43784705:18
clint-ty05:18
clint-static deb?05:18
clint-np05:18
bl3ssinghellow clint- ... 05:18
kkathmanclint-: yes05:18
clint-hi05:18
bl3ssingwhat can I do right now?05:19
LjLbl3ssing: i'm not sure what's wrong with adept. what does "ps aux | grep adept" tell you?05:19
clint-anyone want to help , with me tryin to get mp3 support , dvd, and some more video conifguration, and if time, wireless support for broadcom, its internal wlan05:19
bl3ssingI'll show you LjL in a minute.05:19
bl3ssing:-)05:19
LjL!tell clint- about wireless05:19
clint-so use the static over the buntu?05:19
clint-ubuntu* and yes I know there the same build lol05:20
bl3ssingsure clint, I'll help you. :-) If you'll wait a little bit since my Adept is not working. I'll have to ifgure out ... and than... working with you together cause I'll need my video configuration as well.05:20
clint-np05:20
clint-I'm in Computer Science at Robert Morris college in Peoria, IL05:20
clint-thanks you LjL 05:20
bl3ssingLjL,  ... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43785305:20
clint-:)05:20
kkathmanclint-: opera download: http://downloads.planetmirror.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/static/opera-static_8.50-20050916.1_qt_en_i386.deb05:21
kkathmanthen just dpkg -i that file05:21
clint-k05:21
LjLbl3ssing: hmmm try tying "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" and see what it says05:21
clint-i was messsing with debian 3.1 sarge. let me tell yo.. alot of work :P05:21
LjLclint-: for mp3, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg 05:22
bl3ssingLjL, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43785605:22
bl3ssing:-(05:22
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clint-k 1 sec05:22
LjLbl3ssing: oh, ok. you've probably killed adept at the wrong time, or something.  just type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:22
clint-hey all, I really appreciate your assistance, 05:23
clint-I read as well, however I just got up :P05:23
LjL:)05:23
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Lirxis anyone here familiar with damn small linux ?05:23
LjLbl3ssing: when you're done, i think Adept will now start correctly05:23
clint-its live cd Lirx , maybe usb as well05:24
LirxI'm trying to install it to the hard drive05:24
Lirxi'm having a big problem05:24
clint-ic05:24
LirxI'm basically trying to format05:24
clint-I use PHLAK , been studying it, just ncase I need it for defense :-)05:24
Lirxits an old laptop and i installed kubuntu05:24
clint-ic05:24
Lirxbut didnt like it so i put DSL in and booted up05:25
Lirxinstalled05:25
clint-are you wanting to erase the hard drive full with zero's?05:25
LirxI want EVERYTHING to be gone05:25
clint-k05:25
Lirxso i can boot up the live cd05:25
Lirxand install DSL05:25
clint-I use Winteranls , and UBCD, and other firmware utilities m805:25
Lirxbut CFDISK gets a critical error05:25
clint-I'll help you05:25
LirxYay!05:25
Lirxif i completely wipe the HD, will i be able to install DSL?05:26
Lirxfrom the live cd?05:26
clint-I'm really into the hardware management, support, forensic aspect of computing, internet security m8, so I know I will be a help here :)05:26
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Lirxyay05:26
The_ServantHi everybody!05:26
xtacocorexLirx: have you checked the DSL forums?05:26
clint-lol05:26
LirxYes..05:26
clint-hi xtacocorex 05:26
LirxI've been on google05:26
Lirxall night05:26
xtacocorexclint-: good morning05:26
clint-morning :)05:26
The_ServantIs there someone who can help me how to contact the kubuntu-dev canal (they are in secret mode)05:26
clint-Lirx: 05:26
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clint-your DSL line should already be on, and probably configured for DCHP05:26
LirxYea05:27
clint-DHCP05:27
clint-:P05:27
Lirxhow do i erase the drive05:27
clint-its morning still :P05:27
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LirxLike i wanna erase grub too05:27
clint-i know05:27
Lirxand install grub from DSL05:27
clint-you need firmware software05:27
clint-fdisk is bs05:27
clint-whats your hard drive05:27
Lirx4 gig05:27
Lirxits a 265 mhz pent 105:27
clint-unless you want to download ultimate boot cd05:27
clint-Its a very good cd to have05:28
Lirxi'll google  it05:28
Lirxbut i can i erase everything from dsl live05:28
Lirx?05:28
clint-I got out of using floppy drives to erase hard drives, after a couple monhts into studying05:28
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dipnlikwhat file should I use to configure xterm? ~/.Xresources , ~/.Xdefaults , or something else?05:28
clint-I just don't have the hardware tools yet, to analyze hard drives and run diagnostics, and choosing erase formats05:29
clint-1 , going to install some plugins05:29
Lirxis there a way to format from DSL05:29
LjLbl3ssing: any luck?05:29
Lirxor do i need to download another prog05:29
clint-lol, yeah there is a way to network format and recover05:30
bl3ssingI hope so LjL 05:30
clint-however I havn't done it yet lol05:30
Lirxhow...05:30
bl3ssingnot yet ... still upgrading it ...05:30
LjLbl3ssing: oh05:30
bl3ssingbut it is working ... I mean the upgrade-ing ...05:30
LirxI cant go in to cfdisk05:30
clint-:-)05:30
bl3ssinganyway, in about 3 h brb ... I've to leave right now cause I have the choir repetitions ... :) Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah ... AMEN! :) god bless all of you.05:31
CarstenPif anyone is interested: lowercase skript : for i in *;do mv "$i" "`echo $i|tr [A-Z]  [a-z] `";done          (from _sev in #scummvm)05:31
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYis it possible to get the cpu load of a procces ? (its for stats with graphs)05:31
CarstenPrm *05:31
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: ps aux will tell you05:31
CarstenPforget that05:31
CarstenPwrong window sorry05:31
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: you can then write a script to keep stats, if you like05:31
Lirxclint05:31
LirxAny ideas?05:31
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYok05:31
Lirxi'm on the DSL live desktop at the moment05:31
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYic like with a grep and awk05:31
bl3ssingLjL, still 10% of upgrading ...05:32
bl3ssingthan I'll try to restart my computer, and ... than ... my adept ...05:32
bl3ssingI hope it will work ...05:32
clint-k05:32
clint-how this, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-mutiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg05:32
LjLbl3ssing: you shouldn't need to restart05:32
xtacocorexclint-: should work05:33
clint-oh and, xtacocorex  was telling me on dvd, how to get it to read and everything. I write that down in text kate, sorry x, I was tired last nite bud05:33
xtacocorexclint-: ah yes05:33
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: yes, exactly...  ps aux | grep kdesktop | head -1 | awk '{ print $4 }'        should be fine05:33
xtacocorexclint-: you want it again?05:33
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clint-most of commands stick in my memory like new.. :P05:33
Lirxclint05:33
Lirxhow can i format05:34
clint-ye05:34
Lirxwith DSL05:34
clint-lirx give me sec05:34
Lirxk05:34
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: (of course, you shouldn't use kdesktop, that was just what i was trying it with ;)05:34
clint-lol I have not network formatted or recovered yet05:34
mornfallCarstenP: ARGH!05:34
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clint-I have tools, for windows , I just not that far yet m805:34
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYi understand, thnx, is there any "limit" my load may have05:34
clint-lool05:34
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYsometimes i have 2.3005:34
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYthat looks allot05:35
clint-ubcd should have some tools though05:35
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYbut 2.30 doesnt mean %05:35
mornfallCarstenP: i was all that time wondering why you are acting so weird... dude, taking others' people registered nicks is not nice (tm)05:35
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^rob^hi05:35
Lirxclint05:35
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY:   rm "$1"; while true; ps aux | grep $2 | head -1 | awk '{ print $4}' >>"$1"; sleep $3; done      could be a script that takes a filename as first argument and a process name as second argument, and logs CPU usage for the process every third-argument seconds05:35
clint`yea05:35
Lirxyou cant help then?05:35
Lirx;/05:35
clint`m8 I am tryin get help,, :-)05:36
Lirxoh ok05:36
Lirxlol05:36
CarstenPmornfall: LOL, but I didnt choose the Nick. Konversation just used choose it for me05:36
xtacocorexi think CarstenP changed from carsten due to that nick being taken on #python05:36
clint`what exactly are you trying to do Lirx 05:36
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: "2.30" basically means your processes would need 2.30 times the speed of your current processor in order to not be cpu-bound05:36
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYnice LjL ;)05:36
^rob^i am trying to backup some data - daily - on a dvd - is mkisofs enough to backup 4.Gb ? - or do i have to use growisofs too?05:36
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: at least that's as far as i understand it05:36
xtacocorexmy bad for the reiteration there05:36
CarstenPxtacocorex: you can only join #python with aregistered nick05:36
xtacocorexCarstenP: ah05:37
CarstenPand i couldnt register carsten05:37
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l3mKonversation takes the system user name as default05:37
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYnot be cpu-bound means >1.00 = cpu is now the bottleneck05:37
xtacocorexCarstenP: i remember that from a while ago05:37
CarstenPxtacocorex: carsten is my username on this system, and also my first name05:37
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: there's a "do" missing after "while true;" in my script05:37
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYi noticed :)05:37
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: yes, >1.00 means the CPU is the bottleneck, that's my understanding of it at least05:38
^rob^nobody used mkisofs here?05:38
xtacocorexCarstenP: cool05:38
clint`brb05:38
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYok, LjL really big thnx!!!!!, now i can experiment further ;)05:38
LjL^rob^: yes, i do, for burning cds. never did anything fancy with it though05:38
^rob^LjL: did you backup on a dvd?05:38
Lirxclint: i'm trying to remove all files left from kubuntu, and uninstall grub. Then i want to install grub and DSL from the live cd.05:38
LjL^rob^: no, i don't have a dvd writer05:38
LirxSo i need to completely format from the live cd05:38
^rob^ok05:38
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l3mCarstenP: btw you can tell Konversation to identify you everytime you join freenodes. saves you from /msg nickserv 'ing 05:39
kkathmanLirx: you dont "install" anything from the live CD :)05:39
kkathmanits just runs05:39
l3mLirx: you can just erase the hd during the kubuntu install, if that's what you want05:39
CarstenPl3m: any idea where i can set that?05:40
kkathmanl3m: but you cant install anything from the live cd can you?05:40
LirxI'm trying to install05:40
Lirxdamnsmalllinux05:40
Lirxand nobody in the damnsmalllinux channel was alive05:40
kkathmanLirx: oh well then just erase and remake the partition then05:40
bl3ssingIt's working LjL ... thanks man for help. God bless you my friend.05:41
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thompai have a question about kde 3.5 rc105:41
LjLBFA|WoRsTeNBoY: oh but, wait a moment, that was *load average*, not "ps" output, that i was talking about... "ps" outputs a percentage, even though i think the semantics are similar, and you could get more than 100% (though i'm less sure of this than of the load average thing)05:41
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l3mCarstenP: Settings->Configure Konversation->Accounts05:41
LjLbl3ssing: ;-)05:41
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l3merrr05:41
Lirxkkat05:41
kkathmanDSL is nice, good for, say , a file server05:41
LirxI cant get to cfdisk05:41
l3mCarstenP: i mean File->Serverlist05:41
l3msorry05:41
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYic, ill google it up05:41
BFA|WoRsTeNBoY*further05:42
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LjLCPU usage is currently expressed as the percentage of time spent running during the entire lifetime of a process. This is not ideal,05:42
LjLand it does not conform to the standards that ps otherwise conforms to. CPU usage is unlikely to add up to exactly 100%.05:42
l3mCarstenP: File->ServerList->Edit-> Identity Edit05:42
thompawill kde 3.5 rc1 be eventually a 3.5 update if i got it installed?05:42
federico_luHello everybody! I have sounds lags on my system, using Kubuntu Breezy Badger, to give an example: when a popup comes up, sometimes the corresponding sound needs 3 or more seconds to come up05:43
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federico_luis this problem known / a solution available?05:43
l3mfederico_lu: don't use arts05:43
federico_luas far as I know I'm using alsa05:43
thompaanybody know if 3.5 will just show as an updated when its in the repos?05:44
CarstenPl3m: okay, and where do i enter my password?05:44
LjLthompa: i guess we'll find it in breezy-backports sooner or later, so you should expect it there05:44
federico_luyes, I am using alsa.05:44
jpatrickthompa: there'll be another repo for Breezy05:45
LjLthompa: but it's not even in Dapper now, so don't hold your breath05:45
LjLthompa: in the meanwhile, i suppose it'll be found at the kubuntu.org repository, as 3.5RC1 is right now05:45
l3mCarstenP: Auto-Identify: Service is nickserv, password your pW05:45
thompaLjL: im running 3.5 rc1 now,05:45
jpatrickLjL, thompa: RC2 is almost ready05:45
kkathmanthompa: please remember that kubuntu and KDE are not exactly the same thing, so if you are looking for a stable system, just leave the RC's alone and when kde3.5 is available you'll get it through a standard upgrade05:46
federico_luhmm I'm confused now, a ps shows this line: "/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f" ... is Alsa = Arts ?05:46
LjLthompa: well i suppose the first place you'll find 3.5-final in will still be kubuntu.org. don't think it will just show up as an update anyway05:46
thompajpatrick: does this mean my rc1 will update to rc2 and so on?05:46
jpatrickthompa: no05:46
kkathmanhey jpatrick :)05:46
CarstenPl3m: thanks, testing now05:46
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LjLthompa: no, you'll have to manually add the rc2 repository05:46
jpatrickkkathman: hello05:47
thomparight05:47
kkathmanthompa: once you start playing with unofficial things out of kubuntu, its up to you to update them05:47
LjLthompa: same will happen (i suppose) for final, until it gets included in backports05:47
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jpatrickkkathman: did you see my post?05:47
claudiuhi all05:47
CarstenPit worked !05:47
jpatrickLjL: Final's there: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.5-rc205:48
jpatrickor RC205:48
kkathmanjpatrick: post regarding what?05:48
jpatrickkkathman: KVIRC05:48
LjLjpatrick: but i was speaking of ubuntu packages05:48
claudiujust upgraded tu kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 and nvidia wont load anymore - is there something i should have done /05:48
thompajpatrick: thanks, is it usually a smooth transition from rc1 to rc2 to final or do i have to uninstall things?05:48
LjLthompa: "usually"? :)05:49
kkathmanjpatrick: no I didnt, can you point me that way?05:49
thompaok thanks05:49
Filladodoes anyone know anything in detail about how Linux manages RAM?05:49
jpatrickkkathman: isn't it http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1828.0 ?05:49
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jpatrickFillado: it uses a lot to speed up apps05:50
claudiuhey nvidia module doesnt work anymore for me05:50
kkathmanahhhh thank you!!! I will read that :)05:50
FilladoI got that - was just wondering why KSysGuard was reporting VM usage for separate apps, let at the bottom in total it was using 12MB :\05:51
thompaLjL: im only asking, because back when i ran suse some years ago, i tried a beta kde and had to remove everything manually, was a nightmare.05:51
kkathmanjpatrick: yah, I knew that one, but Adept's use of Preferences apparently is broken (i.e. doesnt exist at this time)05:51
bl3ssingI'll say Good bye to anyone ... brb in 2 h ... maybe 3.05:51
Fillado*yet05:51
jpatrickkkathman: I thought Adept used Apt05:51
LjLthompa: remove the previous version, you mean? that's not usually the case in ubuntu, though you definitely *can* have installation/dependency problems with beta releases05:51
thompaok 05:51
kkathmanjpatrick: I created that file  but Adept still doesnt see kvirc as a "keep"05:52
claudiuanyone can help with a messy kernel upgrade ?05:52
jpatrickkkathman: update?05:52
xtacocorexclaudiu: did you get the restricted modules package when you upgraded?05:52
jpatrick(refresh)05:52
claudiuwell yes but xorg-log says http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43788805:53
kkathmanjpatrick: now I didnt put that Pin-Priority in there05:53
thompaive had only one small issue with rc1 and that was that system settings changed on the panel, but i just put it back05:53
kkathman1 sec05:53
xtacocorexclaudiu: does your xorg.conf file look for nvidia or nv when it loads modules05:54
thompai keep trying gnome, but there seem much fewer confguration options than kde, sound for one.] 05:54
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xtacocorexclaudiu: i don't have an nvidia card, but i know that sometimes it has to be set to nv to work 05:54
claudiuxtacocorex: i got to kde only with nv because nvidia fails05:54
claudiuxtacocorex: i suspect something related with the kernel upgrade05:55
xtacocorexclaudiu: probably05:55
claudiuxtacocorex: maybe this deb stuff needs something to reconfigure05:55
CarstenPfor me nv didnt work, but nvidia did work05:55
xtacocorexclaudiu: maybe05:55
claudiuxtacocorex: i did reconfigured nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-k705:56
claudiuthis debian style is a mystery for me05:56
thompaclaudiU: have you checked your xorg.conf05:56
thompai had a problem there with resolution that caused nvidia problems05:57
claudiuthompa: i switched to nv for the time until i get a solution, but i have no hardware accel for games05:57
kkathmanjpatrick: that Pin-Priority made all the difference :)05:57
thompais glx enabled in xorg.conf?05:58
kkathmanjpatrick: added that, and now Adept just ignores it :)05:58
claudiuthompa: I have Load "glx"05:58
jpatrickkkathman: :D05:58
kkathmanjpatrick: thank you very much sir :)05:58
claudiuthompa: anything else05:58
thompaits not hashmarked right?05:58
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claudiuthompa: dont know but xorg-log says http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43788805:59
jpatrickkkathman: sir?05:59
thompadont mean to sound dumb, but theres no "#" in front of the glx line?05:59
thompaok let me look06:00
kkathmanjpatrick: uhm...you are a ma'am ?  if so, I am sorry for the misindentification :)06:00
claudiuthompa: it shouldnt be, right ?06:00
jpatrickkkathman: it's my age06:00
thomparight06:00
_scott_If you are trying to enable glx its real easy .... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings ... then type ... sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:00
kkathmanjpatrick: funny, my oldest son's name is Jason Patrick Kathman :)06:00
kkathmanhehe06:00
thompaive always had problems with some cards 06:01
jpatrickkkathman: see my profile on the forums06:01
claudiuthompa: maybe i should do glex enable again after kernel upgrade ?06:01
kkathmanjpatrick: when you help someone, you are indeed entitled to respect :)06:01
thompapost your xorg.conf file..06:01
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thompaclaudiu: post xorg.conf, i bet your resolution is off06:02
jpatrickkkathman: okay :)06:03
thompaclaudiu: no its not resolution sorry06:03
claudiuthompa: kde started ok before this kernel upgrade, i replaced nvidia with nv just to get to konversation06:03
thompatry installing nvidia from scratch06:03
claudiuthompa: so there is no problem with my xorg.conf06:03
claudiuthompa: you mean the original thing ?06:04
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murr!ati06:05
ubotuwell, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:05
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thompaclaudiu:  Failed to load module "nvidia" thats your first problem06:05
claudiuthompa: i think the problem is the linux restricted modules06:05
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claudiuthompa: modprobe nvidia works ok btw ---- strange06:06
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thompaclaudiu: did you compile your own kerenl or something?06:06
thompakernel06:06
claudiuthompa: nope - just a lazy bastard - tired of using gentoo for over a year 06:07
claudiucan anyone guide me to downgrade to breezy ?06:07
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thompaclaudiu: sorry mate, id either install nvidia from scratch or use the ub untu kernel06:08
claudiuthompa: i use the ubuntu kernel, mate 06:09
csalsbanybody aout there that can help with streaming media06:09
thompaclaudiu: uninstall nvidia then try reinstalling06:10
devilz_can someone tell me how what should i to sources.list06:10
kkathmanclaudiu: how did you move from your previous kernal?06:10
devilz_to have latest stable versions of packages06:10
claudiukkathman: i used synaptic :)06:10
claudiukkathman: update and upgrade06:10
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYcan you think of bogomips as a simple benchmark value for an processor ?06:10
kkathmanclaudiu: no dist-upgrade?06:10
claudiukkathman: synaptic does dist-upgrade, i guess06:11
kkathmanclaudiu: no it really doesnt06:11
claudiukkathman: i want to try a kernel downgrade ? how can i do it ?06:12
kkathmanclaudiu: you were on breezy right??  And you were just trying to move from the -9 to the -10 kernal?06:12
claudiukkathman: its a 2.6.12-10-k7 currently and was a 2.6.12-9-k706:12
kkathmanok06:13
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claudiukkathman: so it was a breezy kernel ? 06:13
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kkathmanyou might try doing a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if that solves your problem...I have nvidia (i386) and my upgrade was flawless06:13
kkathmanclaudiu: yes it was a linux kernal upgrade06:14
claudiukkathman: i know - currently i am using dapper in sources.list06:15
claudiukkathman: anyway modprobe nvidia works http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43792806:15
claudiukkathman: can you guide me to downgrade and LOCKUP the version of my kernel ?06:16
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_clintback all, lost connection for some odd reason06:16
kkathmanclaudiu: ohhhh you are dapper?? Well, I cant help you on that :)06:17
claudiukkathman: sorry i live on the edge. i just cant refrain to06:18
_clinthey , so I do sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-mutiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg06:18
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claudiukkathman: dont play with my feelings, i really want to learn this deb packaging system06:19
_clintlol06:19
_clintme as well :-)06:19
_clintI got the Debian Bible lmao06:19
_clintonly if I could master Debian 3.1 :P06:20
jpatrickclaudiu: you want to make packages?06:21
CarstenPis there any possibility to see the temperature of the cpu?06:21
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claudiujpatrick: i want to learn how to install things, and usual management stuff06:22
[Codice_Alpha] apt06:22
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_clinthey claudiu , this might help you, its a diferent version of debian, but it helps me a bit06:23
_clinthttp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CCYNFH4GUV8U331LLXRVTAH1D06:23
_clinti sent it to myself , using yousendit06:24
_clintyour more than welcome to download it as well if you want06:24
claudiu_clint: thanks clint you made my day06:24
_clintnp06:24
_clintI am studying to configure linux systems with laptops better, for the multimedia support, hardware, security, performance, etc06:24
_clintits hard telling, who knows if I will go back to Debian 3.1 Sarge after I get done with reading alot of the debian GNU/Linux Bible :)06:25
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_clintits just getting the right configuration that a person wants, is what makes them happy06:26
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devilz_hi06:26
_clintoh btw claudia06:26
_clintits 677 pages long06:26
devilz_does anyone know how to install kde on ubuntu06:26
devilz_?06:26
_clintyep devilz_ 06:26
devilz_i installed kde-desktop06:26
devilz_and kde06:26
_clintopen a terminal06:26
devilz_kde-core06:26
devilz_and now i rebooted but06:27
devilz_still got uubntu06:27
devilz_and gnome06:27
_clintand type in,, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop06:27
devilz_i did06:27
kkathman_clint: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/06:27
kkathmanits all on line06:27
kkathmannice06:27
claudiu_clint: btw something just removed my adept when upgraded ?!?!?06:27
_clintyeah kkathman , I go tthat as well, but its not the debian bible :)06:27
devilz__clint, i did that but still aint working;*06:28
devilz_;06:28
devilz_;(06:28
CarstenPany idea how i can show the current cpu temperature?06:28
_clintI still have to get mp3 support and dvd in my laptop with kubuntu, ubuntu would lag on when I put mp3 and mpeg in :P06:29
kkathman_clint: why are you in kubuntu if you are a debian tech ?06:29
_clintlol I'm no debian tech06:29
_clintlmao06:29
_clint:)06:29
pinucsetCarstenP take a look at the bios06:29
kkathmanjust wondered why you wouldnt be in a debian channel 06:29
_clintlol06:29
_clintI don't care to go there :-)06:29
CarstenPpinucset: Yeah but that would require a restart.06:29
_clintubuntu and kubuntu stand by there humanity to others.. :-)06:29
kkathmanyou'll find that there are SIGNIFICANT differences between (k)ubuntu and debian06:30
CarstenPpinucset: isnt there some tool for it?06:30
_clintyes I know lol06:30
kkathman_clint: just didnt want you to get TOO dependent on that "bible" of yours06:30
_clintyou'll find out that there are significant differeneces in what people decide to do with there free time :)06:30
manuliteif i can't download kubuntu can i get it off the shelf somewhere close to Zimbabwe?06:30
_clintI like it here.. ty :)06:30
kkathman_clint:  well, try and do things "ubuntu" way, not debian then06:31
kkathmanhehe06:31
_clintlol06:31
_clintits still built on debian :-)06:31
kkathman_clint: loosely06:31
_clint:P06:31
_clinthey, want to help me with something m806:31
_clintso I just type this, to get the mp3, mpeg support I need right?06:32
_clintsudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-mutiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg06:32
_clint? :|06:32
kkathmanI'd use apt-get since aptitude has bugs06:32
_clintah06:32
claudiu_clint: how do you like gstreamer performance with divx 06:33
_clintwell someone suggested that06:33
LjLis there anything equivalent to gconf for kde?06:33
_clintin here06:33
kkathmanand gstreamer can be very picky too06:33
_clintI don't like divx really :-)06:33
LjLi mean to the gconf editor, i know the configuration structure isn't the same in kde06:33
kkathmanLjL: dunno...whats gconf ??06:33
_clintits just primarly for my mp3's , and mpeg music videos until I get into using flac, and mp4a06:33
kkathman_clint: what player?06:33
LjLkkathman: well it's kind of like the windows registry editor, gnome has this gconf database that's basically like the windows registry (a little less cluttered tho)06:34
_clintvlc is nice, and other things.. when I am on windows, I use my other high end software, but shame on sony, thats why I didnt' install the server management, I already knew they was up to something with rootkits :P06:34
CarstenPLjL: why do you answer me in #ubuntu but not here ? :)06:35
_clintI guess I could just use Sony Sound Forge 8, or Acid Pro 5, and convert the mp3's into flac or into vorbis files :P06:35
kkathman_clint: in most kde players, like amarok and kaffeine, the xine engine is much more reliable06:35
_clintyeah I like the xine engine  :-)06:35
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LjLCarstenP: 'cause i'm doing other things besides looking at IRC, and i missed you here ;)06:35
_clintXandros was nice for that, but I didnt' like it because it wasn't that open06:35
claudiujpatrick: can you tell me if there are going to be updates and backports for breezy ?06:36
CarstenPLjL: sorry, okay, thanks for your help06:36
LjLCarstenP: anyway, look at ksensors if you're using kde06:36
_clintI also have tried, Fedora Core 1, Fedora Core 4 was nice on laptop , accept synaptic touchpad support was off, FreeBSD 6.0, and PC BSD KDE on FreeBSD, mandriva 2006, I been up and down kkathman 06:36
LjLCarstenP: but i guess you'll have to configure lm-sensors from the shell anyway, as ksensors use lm-sensors06:36
_clintthis Laptop is new, and thats why probably giving me such a hard time :(06:37
kkathmanFedora core is so bloated tho06:37
_clintI been familar with the linux system for over a year now, but no where near to where I need to be yet, have bee way to busy with redoin windows systems for people :P06:37
_clintand College 06:37
kkathmanI'd never install Fedora, because its just too much stuff to remove :)06:38
_clintlol06:38
jpatrickclaudiu: updates for what?06:38
_clinti agree :-)06:38
_clinthey kkathman 06:38
claudiukkathman: yeah kubuntu is tops06:38
_clintwell you havn't seen tops yet claudiu 06:38
_clintPC BSD you should see that :D06:38
freqmodhello, does anyone know how to install xorg headers on kubuntu breezy, for compiling X programs?06:38
kkathmanthe old RedHat 9 was a nice install, but didnt recognize all hardware :(06:39
LjLfreqmod: sudo aptitude install xlibs-dev06:39
_clintits just the dam keyboard layout what is a biatch, fastest system I have ever been on, its KDE on FreeBSD06:39
claudiu_clint: ummm what do you have in mind ?06:39
_clint>_<06:39
CarstenPLjL: looks like i dont have lm-sensors, i will apt-get it . thanks06:39
_clintk, i just got to get me mp3 and mpeg working, then I go from there :D06:39
kkathman_clint: Fedora?? fast??? lol  I didnt experience that06:39
claudiujpatrick: for breezy man. i want to erase dapper. does this mean i will see kde35 in july 2006 ? 06:39
_clintkkathman: 06:39
_clintI didn't say fedora fast, I said PC BSD fast :)06:40
claudiujpatrick: i mean if i stick with breezy06:40
_clintthe install took 12 minutes on this Acer Aspire 3610 :-)06:40
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TROGDOR42Hi all.06:40
kkathmanohhh yah06:40
kkathmantrue06:41
_clinthee06:41
TROGDOR42My friend is trying to get AOL dialup working on Ubuntu, can anybody help?06:41
kkathmankinda like DSL06:41
_clintbut unix is a different story, I'm working on it though, just taking 1 day at a time with college and all and life :)06:41
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freqmodLjL: thx, it worked after i fixed sources.apt06:41
TROGDOR42anybody know how to get AOL working on Ubuntu?06:43
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kkathmanTROGDOR42: ewwww AOL...why? lol   there is so much more in the world :)06:43
kkathmanAOL wont work on Linux06:43
_clintyes, i have to agree with kkathman 06:44
kkathmancuz AOL only provides windows based system installs that I know of06:44
TROGDOR42It's not me it's a friend06:44
TROGDOR42Should I tell him to screw off and get better internet ;)06:44
kkathmantell your friend to grow up  to use the internet :)06:44
NeoFax12does anyone know of a way to mirror the debs on one kubuntu system to another?06:44
kkathmanhehe06:44
jpatrickclaudiu: yes06:44
_clinttell him netzero if he want fast dial up06:44
jpatrickclaudiu: very soon06:44
_clintor get into broadband06:44
NeoFax12By that I mean have to systems setup exactly the same06:44
_clintdial up = analog transmissions,  broadband, = digital broadband06:45
CarstenPokay i called "sudo sensors-detect" and he found some sensors, and changed the etc/modules06:46
CarstenPbut when i now call sensors, he tells me .. No sensors found. do i have to reboot for the changes in /etc/modules to take affect?06:47
LjLCarstenP: yeah, but you can just modprobe the relevant modules instead06:47
LjLCarstenP: sensors-detect gave you a list of modules that it needs06:47
LjLCarstenP: do "sudo modprobe <module>" for each of them06:47
CarstenPLjL: okay i will modprobe i2c-i801 then06:48
CarstenPokay, i had to sudo it06:49
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kkathmanLjL: Hey on that sensor note.. I have a superkaramba theme that doesnt see my sensors for CPU, Fan, etc...will that approach help me?06:51
Meaulneshello all ... anyone here using konversation as an IRC client?06:51
CarstenPLjL: hmm it worked. but  "sensors"  can only shows me the type of RAM i have ... no CPU temperature :( perhaps my mainboard chipset is TOO new06:51
LjLkkathman: never used superkaramba, but as far as i know, almost all sensor programs use lm-sensors as a backend, so i think you should try06:51
kkathmanLjL: lm-sensors?06:52
LjLCarstenP: perhaps, it worked "automagically" for me...06:52
LjLkkathman: yeah, lm-sensors is the package, then "sensors-detect" is the program to configure it06:52
NeoFax12Meaulnes: Yes, I am06:52
CarstenPkkathman: yeah the command ist "sensors" but before you have to scan for them06:52
LjLCarstenP: are you sure you modprobe'd all the relevant modules?06:52
kkathmanLjL: is lm-sensors a standard package or do I need to install it?06:52
LjLkkathman: install06:53
LjLkkathman: it's in main06:53
MeaulnesNeoFax12: I really like this client and it is my first time using it, but I am trying to DCC get a file from a friend and it always seems to time out. If I switch to KSIrc or irssi, it doesn't time out.06:53
MeaulnesNeoFax12: have you had any problems ever with DCC get?06:53
kkathmanLjL: yeah I just installed06:54
NeoFax12No. Actually I find it very stable.  It normally is faster for me than mIRC06:54
Meaulnesheh I haven't used mIRC in years ...06:54
MeaulnesI used to be an xchat junkie, but I thought it was getting bloated ...06:55
CarstenPLjL: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/437964 i think i did all correct ?06:55
Meaulnesoh well ... it is weird ...06:55
Meaulnesthis is a very nice client tho06:55
kkathmanLjL: I'm running the sensors-detect...but its asking to load rivatv - but not to load it if its in the kernal...do you know>?06:55
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NeoFax12It is great for D/Ling anime06:56
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LjLCarstenP: Driver `to-be-written' (should be inserted):06:56
LjLCarstenP: this does make me suspect that your motherboard may not yet be supported...06:57
NeoFax12I can have multiple IRC channels open and multiple D/L going.  mIRC does not have this capability06:57
MeaulnesNeoFax12: yeah ... this DCC thing has me stumped06:57
LjLkkathman: no idea, you're best of ignoring that i think06:57
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CarstenPLjL: oh okay, then i will wait for the next kubuntu version. funny thing is that when i was installing kubuntu the installer told me sth about CPU - temperature Threshold. So i change my CPU-fan, and i wanted to know if all is fine now :) and i thought, if the installer knows it, kubuntu itseld should know it06:59
LjLCarstenP: oh well, you know, kubuntu is sensing temperature perfectly here, but the installed never asked me anything about it... :-)06:59
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kkathmanLjL: yah lm-sensors didnt help06:59
kkathmanoh well06:59
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NeoFax12CarstenP: That CPU Threshold is from ACPI not lm-sensors07:01
MeaulnesNeoFax12: have you ever seen this, "[Error]  No DCC download running on port 1024"07:01
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Meaulnesi just now noticed that07:01
NeoFax12Meaulnes: No, but does your firewall block that port?  If so, unblock it and see if it works.07:02
CarstenPNeoFax12: so is there a way to read this acpi data, or does it only say when it is too warm?07:02
kkathmanLjL: well it updated my modules, I guess I should reboot?07:02
kkathmanor can I reload modules ?07:03
LjLkkathman: modprobe add the modules that it listed07:03
LjLadd=all07:03
NeoFax12CarstenP: Gkrellm will read the ACPI data.  However, it is very limited as the ACPI spec only covers somethings.  Fan speed I don't think is one of them.07:03
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CarstenPNeoFax12: Gkrellm is that a package?07:05
libbenanyone knows if there is a beta for oxygen icons?07:05
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jpatricklibben: no07:05
NeoFax12CarstenP: Yes, it is.  It is really neat as it monitors all kinds of things not just temps and such07:05
kkathmanLjL: well crap  that doesnt work either :)07:06
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kkathmanI wonder if I have to reboot to get the sK theme to work07:06
LjLksensors monitors temperature, fans speed and voltages07:06
LjLkkathman: dunno...07:06
kkathmanjpatrick: do you know anything about lmsensors?07:07
jpatrickkkathman: no :(07:07
jpatrickkkathman: if i wanted to know my temperature07:07
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jpatrickkkathman: I'd use a SuperKaramba theme07:08
kkathmanjpatrick: thats what Im useing07:08
kkathmanbut its not seing my Fans/Temp07:09
kkathmanjpatrick: I did an install of lmsensors07:09
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kkathmanjpatrick: and then did a sensors-detect and thought I did the right installs07:11
jpatrickkkathman: is there a man page for it?07:11
os2macis there a KDE theme for Ubuntu07:12
kkathmanlemme check07:12
kkathmanjpatrick: no07:12
LjLos2mac: sorry=07:12
kkathmanos2mac: huh???07:12
os2macI use Kubuntu.... and I am tired of the blue.07:12
jpatrickkkathman: info page?07:13
LjLos2mac: sudo aptitude install kde-artwork07:13
kkathmanos2mac: www.kde-look.org07:13
LjLos2mac: sudo aptitude install kdeartwork, actually07:13
kkathmanLjL: be careful about recommending aptitude, honestly, it has bugs ok?07:13
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kkathmanos2mac: please dont use aptitude is doesnt report or work with everything quite yet07:14
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LjLkkathman: look, it's Debian's default and recommanded package manager; i'm (definitely) not the only one recommending it; if the bugs are *so* serious, it should be removed from Ubuntu07:14
kkathmanLjL: I am asking you please, dont tell people to use it, its broken...and ALL ubuntu pages use apt-get07:15
LjLand, don't tell me packages like adept or kynaptic don't have bugs, pelase07:15
nxv_hi, what am i missing to get my dvbt running in kaffeine. channels are displayed. but grey. kaffeine-xine is installed. what else do i have to do?07:15
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os2macI don't use aptitude I use adept07:15
LjLkkathman: ok, i'm just going to tell people "install <package>" then. if they ask me how, i'll say i can't reply07:16
kkathmanthats kewl :)07:17
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os2macso anyway does anyone know where I can get the offical desktop background for ubuntu without downloading Gnome?07:18
os2macand it's not on art.ubuntu.com.... I looked.07:19
CarstenPwow, thanks for the kaffeine xine idea.07:19
nxv_o2mac: u want just the deskto background?07:19
nxv_CarstenP: is it working for u?07:19
os2macyeah... thanks all.07:19
CarstenPi just installed it, and i must say that it plays more videos than vlc and mplayer07:19
CarstenPnxv_: yeah, but i dont have a dvb-t card07:20
nxv_hm okay, anyone else who could tell me how to get my dvb-t card running with kaffeine?07:20
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NeoFax12nxv_: Is the card recognized by the kernel?  If so, what is the /dev for it?07:23
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jjessein order to get amaork to see my music cds and add them to my collection, which folder do i want it to scan?07:28
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hussamis kde 3.5 rc2 out?07:36
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Riddellhussam: yes07:37
kkathmanhussam: I think its out 07:37
kkathmanthought I havent seen it in the kubuntu chan topic07:37
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kkathmanthought=tho07:38
hussamRiddell: is this it http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35rc2/ ?07:38
Riddellpackages are still testing, all testers welcome deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35rc2 breezy main07:38
Riddellhussam: yes07:38
hussamhow stable is it on breezy?07:38
Riddelldunno, that's why I need testers :)07:38
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_clintim' going to read up, looks like a lot of useful information07:39
hussamdoes it have hal integration and the admin mode fix ported from breezy's 3.4.3 ?07:39
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hussamRiddell: does it have the fixes for admin mode that went into breezy-update for 3.4.3 ?07:42
_clintk back. so rather sudo install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-mutiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg07:43
Riddellhussam: it has hal and I put the admin mode fix into KDE SVN so yes it has that too07:46
_clintRiddell: 07:47
_clintyou know the easiest way to add mp3 support, mpeg, dvd into kubuntu bud07:47
hussamRiddell: brilliant. I'll download the packages07:47
Riddell_clint: see kubuntu.org/faq.php for mp307:48
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Riddellsee restricted formats for dvd07:48
libbeni wish i could install a linux dist into a folder that it thinks is a partition. and u would see it in one window in ur desktop. like the one for osx. where u can see a linux dist inside a window. but that requiered alot of hacking and knowledge07:48
_clintalready have07:48
_clint:-)07:48
_clintlibben: 07:48
libben?07:48
_clintParagon Hard Disk Manager will let you gain access to files :D07:49
_clint;)07:49
_clintdrag and drop and all :-)07:49
_clintso will VMware :P07:49
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_clintwell i am going study everything I can, and I will do this07:52
claudiulibben: vmware maybe ?07:53
libbenRiddell: why wont katapult catch up with path? ive made a symlink to /usr/local/bin/azureus and i can tab it in terminal and it starts and all are good. but when i try in katapult it wont get tabbed or pop the azureus png image.07:53
Riddelllibben: katapult doesn't search the path07:54
_clintclaudiu: , not so much a maybe, you can run pretty much any operating system inside windows and do the same on linux and unix07:54
libbenso how does it knows when a knew program is installed?07:54
_clint;)07:54
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hussamRiddell: I added the repo and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop. it also held back kdebase07:55
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notechhi07:55
notechneed some help.. :)07:56
libbenRiddell: how does it know when a new program is installed then?07:56
Riddelllibben: it looks at .desktop files in /usr/share/applications, same as k-menu07:57
_clintit sure seems there is always something that works right with a linux system, and then something don't work right07:57
libbenso if i want it to pop in katapult i need to create my own file there?07:58
hussamRiddell: also something about removing libkcal2a 07:58
_clintcheck this out, isn't this something07:58
hussamRiddell: most importantly it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop07:58
_clintUbuntu Linux [1]  is a Debian-based, desktop Linux distribution whose name 07:58
_clint means "humanity to others." The philosophy behind this GNU/Linux 07:58
_clint distribution and the great selection of packages make you feel good that 07:58
_clint you're using it. The lack of multimedia support, however, leaves your 07:58
_clint digital media desires unsated.07:58
Riddellhussam: that's fine, libkcal is renamed07:59
_clint:P07:59
Riddellhussam: I'm not sure why it's removing kubuntu-desktop, I'll look into it07:59
_clintsorry about that long line08:00
hussamRiddell: another thing kdebase won't upgrade "Depends: libkonq4 (>=4:3.5.0-0ubuntu1) but 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1 is to be installed"08:00
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hussamRiddell: notice the differnce between 0ubuntu1 and 0ubutnu0breezy108:01
Riddellhussam: hang on08:01
_clintoh I found something to help08:01
_clintand now that I have found this , I will be able to offer high velocity support, and I will use techSmith CAmtasia 3.0, and record in realtime, with audio and video on how to work with linux systems.. full screen vmware style :D08:03
Riddellhussam: try apt-get update and dist-upgrading again08:03
hussamok08:03
_clintyep that help :)08:03
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_clinthussam08:03
_clintperfom these commands in console, 08:03
_clintsudo apt-get update08:03
_clintsudo apt-get upgrade08:03
_clintsudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:04
hussam_clint: yes I know that08:04
_clintk08:04
_clint:P08:04
_clintI found it to nicely refresh things :-)08:04
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devilz_does anyone know where i can change grub theme08:05
devilz_?08:05
_clintI was looking on installing the mplayer, and it says, its more than likely with x or ou x be the only media player you need lol08:06
_clintgraphical?08:06
_clint->  www.kde-look.org  www.gnome-look.org08:06
devilz_graphic yes08:06
_clint2 of my favorite :)08:06
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l3m yes. when you have mplayer, why use an inferior player ,)08:08
NeoFax12devilz_: /boot/grub/menu.lst08:08
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devilz_NeoFax12, and where can i get themes08:09
devilz_?08:09
_clintwell thats just it, you want something done right, you have to read and do it yourself :-)08:09
_clintthus what I am doing08:10
NeoFax12Grab the debian ones08:11
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ShoCHey, im having a bit of trouble getting wine onto my system  im using Konatix, first time user of Linux today anyone able to help me?08:15
libbenanyone knows wich version of kbear is the newest?08:16
libbencant get to his site, mysql errors08:16
_clinttime for me to do some reading and more reading I guess :)08:19
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devilz_NeoFax12, well i dont have any clue08:19
devilz_::D08:19
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devilz_i just want to change background of grub :D08:19
jpat|awaylibben: kftpgrabber is much better08:20
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libbenjpat|away: and compared to kasablanca?08:20
jpat|awaylibben: kftpgrabber is the best imo08:21
_clintdevilz_: , hos that helping do you know how to mess with that :-)08:21
devilz_no08:21
devilz_:D08:21
_clintlol08:21
fevoldj2Has anyone seen raphink around?08:21
_clintXD08:21
_clintits easy08:21
devilz_i'd like to have it like suse08:21
devilz_its very nice08:21
_clint:-)08:21
raphinknot in a long time fevoldj2 08:22
_clintI might try open suse :-)08:22
libbenjpat|away: any official deb for kubuntu for it? is it make install the only way for it?08:22
fevoldj2there we go08:22
jpat|awaylibben: I made08:22
jpat|awayone08:22
devilz__clint, yay :D08:22
devilz_ubuntu its ok08:22
libbenthat uses the correct folders and all that for kde/kubuntu?08:22
jpat|awaylibben: let me find it08:22
devilz__clint, its just hard to change grub picture :D08:23
jpat|awaylibben: here's the deb: http://www.whoiam55.at.preempted.net/public/jpatrick/08:23
Meaulnesanyc chance someone could help me figure out why I cannot find ndiswrapper-utils?08:23
_clintlol08:24
fevoldj2Hi, I'm trying to uninstall webmin, but when I attempt to do so, the packages fail to uninstall and become broken.08:24
_clintnot really :-)08:24
_clintdevilz, you should see Acronis Disk Director Suite 908:25
_clint;)08:25
devilz_what is that08:25
libbenjpat|away: i assume it is configured for the right paths in kubuntu?08:25
jpat|awaylibben: yes08:25
jpat|awaylibben: it was built for Kubuntu08:25
libbenso its installed to /usr/local/ ? and a exec to /usr/local/bin?08:25
jpat|awaylibben: --prefix=/usr08:26
jpat|awaylibben: like all packages I make08:26
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_clinthey devilz_ 08:27
devilz_ya?08:27
libbenlol08:27
libbenkdebase is not install08:27
libbenwtf08:27
jpat|awaylibben: sorry about that08:28
devilz__clint?08:29
libbenjpat|away: so what? i need to install kdebase? isnt it just a meta package?08:29
_clintguess what I'm going try :P08:30
jpat|awaylibben: it's just the nucleus of KDE08:30
fevoldj2Hi, I'm trying to uninstall webmin, but when I attempt to do so, the packages fail to uninstall and become broken.08:30
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devilz__clint, grub background ?=)08:31
libbenjpat|away: yeah, but isnt all that allready installed08:31
jpat|awaylibben: it is08:31
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_clintdevilz_:  this should work, 08:36
jpat|awaylibben: it work?08:36
_clinthttp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ for open suse netinstall08:36
_clint:)08:36
devilz_yes08:36
libbenyeah i got it installed right now. but i had some weird experience while i was looking at the kde base packages.08:36
libbeni dident choose to install them08:36
libbenand i dident hit aply changes08:37
_clintwhat you got installed08:37
libbenand all suddenly kdebase is installed and kftpgrabber works08:37
libbenit does not pop in katapult though =(08:37
_clinthey devilz_ , that should work right?08:37
devilz_yes08:37
_clintwhy have you tried it08:37
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jpat|awaylibben: nope works here08:38
libbenwell it popped in katapult after restarting it, but whooa... upscaled icon08:38
jpat|awayyep :(08:38
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devilz__clint i used suse08:39
devilz_1 day ago08:39
devilz_:D08:39
kkathmandevilz_: suse....why did you switch?08:40
jpatrickkkathman: Kubuntu's nicer08:41
devilz_becouse hardisk i used for suse it was so loud i needed to change it08:41
devilz_:D08:41
_clintand?08:41
_clintlol :|08:41
LatemIf I want to have windows XP on my master HD, and kubuntu on my 2nd (slave) HD, can I do this, and keep the windows bootloader (NTLOADER or whatever it called), or will I have to put GRUB?08:42
Latemive never done dual boot in any shape or form before08:42
_clintyes latem08:42
devilz__clint, now i'm using just kubuntu08:42
_clintdevilz_:  I have tried many08:42
Latemsorry _clint  i worded my question badly, yes I can do it; or yes I'll have to puyt GRUB?08:43
_clintyou don't have to install your boot loader to the other hard drive08:43
devilz__clint, and which you like most08:43
devilz_?08:43
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_clintno comment08:43
_clintthis dam laptop, its hard getting the right 1 for it, its a 2005 and a biatch :-)08:44
devilz_hehe08:45
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_clintheck I dont' even know anymore devilz_ 08:46
LatemI understand that I dont need a boot loader on my slave.  if I have Windows XP on my master already; and I put a second HD in and install Kubuntu on it; the Kubuntu installer will replace NTLOADER with GRUB AFAIK. Is there a way to keep NTLOADER, and after Kubuntu installation it will have 2 options (XP and Kubuntu)?08:46
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Latemmaybe i dont understand how booting works =[08:47
devilz_brb08:47
_clintyou can change in bios , what  hard driveyou want to boot08:48
_clinthd0/ hd1  hd2 / hd3 etc08:48
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libbenhow do i fix so i can boot my winxp drive again?08:52
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libbeni have it mounted in linux. and all that. but i cant get it to boot from grub08:52
libbenthink it got a beating from bootloader08:52
KnowerrorsAnybody here using firestarter? I need help with it please...08:53
libbenbut what happends if i try to fix it? wont linux and grub get removed?08:53
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gsuveganyone use katapult ?08:54
_clintlibben: 08:54
jpatrickgsuveg: me08:54
_clintwhat hard drive is win xp on08:54
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CarstenPwhat is katapult?08:54
jpatrickCarstenP: oh my08:55
jpatrickCarstenP: item launcher for KDE08:55
_clintyou know, you can install Acronis Disk Director Suite 908:55
_clintit has a graphical OS Selector08:55
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jpatrickCarstenP: Press Alt-F2 and type 'katapult'08:55
libben_clint: hda08:55
libbenand linux on hdb08:56
gsuvegjpatrick: me dont in katapult list the skype, but is path08:56
libbenbut i dont wich one has the bootloader08:56
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gsuvegjpatrick: have you idea ?08:56
jpatrickgsuveg: you can't see Skype in it?08:56
gsuvegdont08:57
libbengsuveg: killall katapult08:57
gsuvegon konsole can i start it08:57
gsuveglibben: and ?08:57
libbenand alt+f208:57
oshany idea on why workrave will be updated? There's a version that doesn't require the gnomelibs now I think.08:57
libbentype katapult08:57
libbenand try again08:57
jpatrickgsuveg: katapult looks for .desktop files08:57
gsuveglemme see08:58
gsuvegjpatrick: i have it in menu08:58
libbenanyone wanna guide me some?09:01
libbenon my earlier Q about xp drive09:01
libbenjust a few lines up09:01
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libben_clint got dissconected09:01
gsuvegjpatrick: funny. its in kde menu, but dont in katapult09:01
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libbengsuveg: it looks for special desktop files in /usr/somewhere/bla/blah09:01
gsuveglibben: ah. right09:02
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libben[19:57]  <Riddell> libben: it looks at .desktop files in /usr/share/applications, same as k-menu09:03
gsuveglibben: thanks09:04
gsuvegand what is the std dir ?09:04
libbenjpatrick: how can i create my own .desktop file?09:05
libbeni wanna make a azureus one =)09:05
jpatricklibben: look in /usr/share/applications09:05
libbenjpatrick: i have09:06
libbenbut what? i just copy one and edit its content?09:06
jpatricklibben: yeah09:06
jpatricklibben: they're just text files09:07
libbenor i can create one in the menu editor? and it will pop up in menu and then pop into katapult09:07
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jpatrickmaybe09:07
kkathmanjpatrick:  you use katapult?09:07
libbenwell, menu editor would place a desktop file when i create one? well that would be the logical thing =)09:08
bl3ssinglhello everyone09:08
jpatrickkkathman: SVN verison09:08
kkathmanjpatrick: I tried it, and just never really found it that useful, but I started using ksmoothdock and love it09:08
jpatrickkkathman: I like KXDocker for docks09:09
jpatrickkkathman: which is why I made a package for it: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=102509:09
kkathmanjpatrick: yah.. I think they are similar right?09:10
kkathmanI just happened upon ksmoothdock first I guess :)09:10
jpatrickKXDocker is more like the Mac OSX one09:10
kkathmanjpatrick: parabolic?09:10
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devilz_(hd0,5) i dont understand this09:10
jpatrickkkathman: has a few more thingys09:11
jpatrickplugins etc09:11
kkathmanjpatrick: ksmoothdock seems to have everything I need, plugins, and customization..but I'll take a look :)09:11
kkathmanjpatrick: is the repos version the most current?09:11
kkathmanprolly not09:12
jpatrickkkathman: out-dated verison in repos- mine (lastest) being reviewed09:12
wobsterif I'd simply install kde on ubuntu .. would that result in kubuntu?09:12
gsuveghm09:12
jpatrickwobster: yes09:12
notechneed some help.. :)09:12
jjessewobster: install kubuntu-desktop09:12
gsuvegwhree search desktop files the katapult ?09:12
wobsteralright. thanks09:12
kkathmanjpatrick: I dont like parabolic tho...if its parabolic, icck09:12
gsuvegusr/share/applnk/Internet isnt good09:13
Knowerrorshow do kxdocker, ksmoothdocker, kooldock compare ?09:13
notechcould someone help me plz :)09:13
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jpatrickKnowerrors: KoolDocks feature lacking imo09:13
kkathmanjpatrick: which one is the best to dowload...the tar.gz ?09:14
Knowerrorsso ksmoothdocker is best of the 3?09:14
jpatrickKnowerrors: your opinion09:14
wobsternow that I'm here: I think I messed up my package-db when upgrading from hoary to breezy. for example I got some kernel-image in the database but synaptic says it wouldnt actually exist and synaptic totally locks up the X server with 100% cpuload when I select that for deinstallation. can I do something about it?09:14
kkathmanKnowerrors: I use ksmoothdock, its nice, but has a few graphical quirks occasionally09:14
jpatrickkkathman: the tar.gz has the source, but there's a way to make a deb with the files09:15
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gsuvegwhere search desktop files the katapult ?09:15
notechneed some help configure vga card,if someone could help me,contact me thank u.09:15
KnowerrorsI tried kxdocker, used ALOT of cpu, I have Athlon xp 1800, and it was close to 90% cpu while rolling across the kxdocker icons09:16
bl3ssinghas need for speed any game for linux?09:16
libbengsuveg: just right click on Kmenu on the left bottom09:16
libbenand choose menu editor09:16
libbenand make a new entry in there09:16
libbenand it will pop in katapult after u killed it and restarted it09:16
jpatrickKnowerrors: only thing that put me off was that it would remove the network folders09:16
gsuveglibben: not09:16
libben?09:17
gsuveglibben: skype is in kde menu, but isnt in katapult after reload09:17
gsuvegskype desktop is in usr/share/applnk/Internet/skype.destop09:17
Knowerrorsjpatrick: any way to improve resource usage/perfomance of kxdocker?09:17
libbenwhat was the command to update the db? 09:18
jpatrickkkathman: get the tar and compile09:18
libbenso locate will find what i want09:18
jpatrickKnowerrors: nope :(09:19
gsuveglibben: hmm. have you idea ?09:19
libbenmaybe. u could try make a new entry, that is named skype2 and then enter same values and then save it and kill and restart katapult09:20
jpatrickkkathman: will be in Dapper probably end of weekend (I hope)09:20
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gsuveglibben: hmm?09:23
libbenhows it going?09:24
libbenworking?09:24
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bl3ssingcan anybody help me again? I can't watch my mpeg/wmv/avi/asf/div movies! :-( 09:24
CarstenPbl3ssing: what player are you using?09:25
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notechHi,i googled for any sites related to my vga card,find some but don't know how to configure my card,could someone help me?09:27
bl3ssingwhich is the best ...? CarstenP ?09:27
notechsite i found: http://who.is.free.fr/wiki/?IGP%20340M09:27
bl3ssingI have a lots ... but I want to find it the best!09:27
gsuveglibben: not09:27
l3mbl3ssing: mplayer 09:28
CarstenPi found that kaffeine is very good.09:28
CarstenPif you install the kaffeine-xine plugin09:28
libbenand u rightclicked on kmenu? and made a new entry and then clicked diskette icon(save) and restarted katapult?09:28
CarstenPand then set the engine away from Gstreamer09:28
libbenwhat was the command to update the db? 09:29
libbenwhat was the command to update the db? so i can use locate properly?09:29
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gsuveglibben: yes. ist inst in katapult. i cant start with it09:30
bl3ssingMedia player (kaffeine? Noatun?)09:31
bl3ssingl3m, ?09:31
Knowerrorsjpatrick: which file on that link you posted is the ubu deb of kxdocker?09:32
KnowerrorsI mean ksmoothdock09:32
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notechany help? :/09:33
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bl3ssingnotech? what's the pb is botthering you?09:34
bl3ssingtell to papa.09:34
bl3ssingLOL09:34
bl3ssinghe's gone ...09:34
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bl3ssingtoo late.09:34
bl3ssinggood morning notech  ... what kind of pb. do you have?09:34
notech:))))09:34
notechhi09:35
bl3ssinghheeehh09:35
bl3ssingare you smilling? to me?09:35
bl3ssingI can see your teeth ...09:35
bl3ssing=))09:35
notechi need to configure my integrated vga card in laptop09:35
bl3ssinghihihi hhoho hehhheh09:35
bl3ssingok09:35
notechi googled and found many sites about it09:35
bl3ssingwhat kind of vga card do you have?09:35
bl3ssingand ...?09:35
notechi dont know how! :/ (i am new to linux)09:35
notechATI igp 345M on Sony Vaio09:36
bl3ssinglol about you being  new. I'm new as well. =))))))))))))))))))09:36
bl3ssinghahaahh09:36
bl3ssingbut ... didn't you install it ... I mean ... didn't the kubuntu installed it automatically?09:36
notechhttp://who.is.free.fr/wiki/?IGP%20340M09:36
bl3ssingcause mine works perfect (of course, it is a different one)09:36
bl3ssing:-)09:36
notechno09:36
bl3ssingthat's sad09:36
notechi dont have 3d acceleration09:36
notechand opengl09:37
bl3ssingdon't you have openGL?09:37
gsuveglibben: hmm. have you more idea ?09:37
bl3ssingthat's bad09:37
bl3ssingyou can't even play a good game. :-)09:37
notechfound this site talking about xorg.. etc.. any ideas?09:37
bl3ssinggsuveg, what kind of idea?09:37
notechi am on kubuntu 5.1009:37
libbennot really. i got my azureus working with just adding it thru menu editor09:37
bl3ssingme too notech 09:37
bl3ssingwell notech09:37
gsuvegbl3ssing: why cant start skype with katapult09:38
bl3ssinghave you tried to install any repository ...?09:38
bl3ssingwhat's katapult gsuveg ? :-)09:38
notechno,dont know how09:38
bl3ssingwell ...09:38
notechis that site bad?09:38
bl3ssing!ubotu say to notech how to install any repositories09:39
ubotuNot a clue, bl3ssing09:39
bl3ssing:-)09:39
gsuvegbl3ssing: why ask if you dont know what is katapult ?09:39
bl3ssingLOL09:39
bl3ssingGRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............09:39
bl3ssingbl3ssing's back...09:39
jpatrickKnowerrors: that's just the source package09:39
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jpatrickKnowerrors: an MOTU will build and upload it later09:40
bl3ssinggsuveg, ther's no pb. using katapult with skype09:40
notechwhat repository i need to install? how?09:40
bl3ssingI know skype's the best messenger ...09:40
bl3ssingbut ... it doesn't mean that it will work with katapult09:41
Knowerrorsjpatrick: whats different with that source vs the one on kde-look.org?09:41
jpatrickKnowerrors: they're both the same09:41
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bl3ssingyou might try the google ... for any solutions. I know this kubuntu channel might bring you more ideas/clues about how to use the skype ... but ... in this case, you'll need to ask the ubuntu ...09:41
alistairhi room09:42
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alistairI've got a problem with my x-org, can someone please help?09:42
gsuvegalistair: ask ;)09:42
alistairWhen I start up, after the nvidia splash, my system instead of loading kdm, hangs on the battery test.09:43
alistairso i press contrl-alt-f109:43
alistairand go to a command line...09:43
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alistairi login and try startx from my user account09:43
alistairbut i get an long error, and the end of it looks like this:09:43
alistair"Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0"09:44
Knowerrorsjpatrick: I tried building using the source from kde-look.org, ./configure, make, sudo make install, didn't seem to install anything09:44
alistairand it has alot fo things like that09:44
alistairand then also in the error is09:44
alistair"Fatal server error:  Caught signal 11.  Server aborting"09:44
jpatrickKnowerrors: don't use just ./configure09:45
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jpatrickKnowerrors: it's "./configure --prefix=/usr"09:45
alistairThe only thing I changed on my x-conf file recently was to enable translucency..09:45
adamti91whos the smartest kubuntu instlal in here09:45
adamti91i need that much help09:45
alistaircan someone help me?09:45
bl3ssingis there any DCC/eMule++ for Kubuntu?09:45
jpatrickadamti91: what?09:46
adamti91install issues09:46
adamti91cant access tty? dropps to shell09:46
gsuvegbl3ssing: are you kiddin?09:46
Knowerrorsjpatrick: thx will try that... exactly as you put it09:46
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CarstenPbl3ssing: i heard of amule and xmule09:46
bl3ssinggsuveg, why shall I be kidding?09:46
jpatrickKnowerrors: first remove what you have installed09:46
adamti91jpatrick09:46
adamti91i pmed you09:46
jpatrickKnowerrors: 'sudo make uninstall'09:46
Knowerrorsjpatrick: how do I do that?09:46
alistair:|  if someone has time, please help.  I need this machine for work.09:47
alistairhttp://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1866.009:47
jpatrickadamti91: really?09:47
KnowerrorsI just trashed the folder jpatrick 09:47
adamti91IMed09:47
adamti91yaeh 09:47
jpatrickKnowerrors: recover it09:47
alistairpm me if u can.  thanks in advance-  fish.  The only thing I changed on my x-conf file recently was to enable translucency..09:47
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alistair<adamti91> whos the smartest kubuntu instlal in here09:47
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alistair<adamti91> i need that much help09:47
alistair<alistair> can someone help me?09:47
alistair<bl3ssing> is there any DCC/eMule++ for Kubuntu?09:47
alistair<jpatrick> adamti91: what?09:47
alistair<adamti91> install issues09:47
alistair<adamti91> cant access tty? dropps to shell09:47
alistair<gsuveg> bl3ssing: are you kiddin?09:48
adamti91??09:48
kinfoi don't understand.09:48
alistair<Knowerrors> jpatrick: thx will try that... exactly as you put it09:48
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alistair<CarstenP> bl3ssing: i heard of amule and xmule09:48
jpatrickflood!09:48
adamti91lol09:48
adamti91jpatrick09:48
adamti91i imed you in IRC09:48
jpatrick:/ oh thank god for that09:48
bl3ssinghelppppppppppppppppppppp09:48
bl3ssingI can't run ADEPT again ... why?09:48
CarstenPbl3ssing: this happens to me sometimes too, sometimes it crashed09:49
bl3ssingI've tried all the commands I know: sudo kill -9 8588; ps aux | grep adept; sudo passwd -l root, but nothing.09:49
jpatrickKnowerrors: simply do: './configure --prefix=/usr' then 'make' (you won't have to recompile) and make install09:49
bl3ssinglol CarstenP 09:49
bl3ssing:-)09:49
jpatrickadamti91: I'm sending you stuff :/09:49
adamti91thanks09:50
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adamti91not getting it09:50
adamti91you  AIM09:50
CarstenPbl3ssing: what does ps aux | grep adept say?09:50
jpatrick:|09:50
jpatrickMy Jabber's: jpatrick@kdetalk.net09:50
adamti91thanks09:50
adamti91ill uh09:50
adamti91go get a jabber i guess09:50
bl3ssingCarstenP,  ... is's saying ... marius   13077  0.0  0.1   3064   756 pts/4    R+   22:50   0:00 grep adept09:51
adamti91yahoo or AIM09:51
adamti91?09:51
jpatricknah09:51
CarstenPthis is the only line?09:51
bl3ssingyeap09:51
bl3ssingthat's right.09:51
CarstenPbl3ssing: then there is no running adept process.09:51
adamti91lemme get my jabber plugin for trill:09:51
bl3ssingbut ... what can I do to be able to run it?09:52
adamti91nvm its pro09:52
bl3ssingcause I can't install my files ...09:52
jpatrickadamti91: Trillian sucks at IRC09:52
adamti91yeh09:52
adamti91its fine in misticrier and other chats09:52
jpatrickKnowerrors: how's it going?09:53
bl3ssingadamti91, why are you speaking so ugly in a public channel?09:53
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bl3ssinggo talk like this when you're alone ... but not here. ;-)09:53
bl3ssingor at least, you got a wall in back of the yard ... :-)09:53
adamti91ugly?09:53
bl3ssingbad ...09:53
bl3ssing:-)09:53
bl3ssinglol09:53
bl3ssingjust kidding.09:53
adamti91ah09:53
adamti91sorry09:53
bl3ssingheheheh09:53
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bl3ssingugly is the yard and wall09:54
bl3ssingI can't run ADEPT again ... why?09:54
bl3ssinghelppppppppppppppppppppp09:54
LjLbl3ssing: what does "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" tell you this time09:54
bl3ssingpls, my chicken has HB509:54
jpatrickbl3ssing: what errors does it give?09:54
bl3ssing:-)09:54
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adamti91mirc wont connect :(09:55
bl3ssingLjL, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43810609:55
bl3ssing:-(09:55
bl3ssingyou're again here to save me.09:55
bl3ssing:-)09:55
jpatrickadamti91: what is the problem?09:56
LjLbl3ssing: so, "ps aux | grep adept" gives you nothing? are you sure you haven't Adept, Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude or something like that already running?09:56
adamti91jpatrick09:56
adamti91anything?09:56
adamti91 [15:47]  adamti91: I install, go through normal blue screen installation uglieness09:56
adamti91 [15:47]  adamti91: then09:56
adamti91 [15:47]  adamti91: restart like it says it will09:56
adamti91 [15:47]  adamti91: and choose kubuntu from grup menu09:56
adamti91 [15:48]  adamti91: and the bar comes up, says loading modules-OK09:56
robotgeekadamti91: what are you trying to do09:56
adamti91[15:48]  adamti91: then09:56
adamti91[15:49]  adamti91: initializing /dev shows09:56
adamti91[15:49]  adamti91: and then it drops to command line entry09:56
robotgeek!ops09:56
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth09:56
adamti91[15:49]  adamti91: and says:09:56
adamti91[15:52]  adamti91: ALERT! /dev/sde3 does not exist09:56
adamti91 dropping to a shell!09:56
adamti9109:56
bl3ssingmaybe I have the aptitude opened09:56
adamti9109:56
adamti91 BusyBox v1.00-pre10 (Debian 20040623-1ubuntu22) built in shell (ash)09:56
adamti91 /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off09:56
bl3ssingI'll try to close all of them.09:56
adamti91and i cant do anything09:57
adamti91any help?09:57
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bl3ssinghow can I see all the processes are opened into my computer?09:57
jpatrickhmm :/09:57
LjLbl3ssing: you can't use a program that accesses APT while another one is running09:57
bl3ssingit is enough the CTRL+ESC key?09:57
LjLbl3ssing: yes, or type "ps aux"09:57
jpatrickadamti91: must be a bad C09:57
robotgeekadamti91: wth are you filling the channel with crap. get a different client?09:57
jpatrickCD*09:57
adamti91huh robotgeek?09:57
LjLadamti91: please read the channel topic09:58
bl3ssingif I want to close any of the processes, how can I do it?09:58
robotgeekadamti91: your client was filling the channel with crap09:58
adamti91i as coppying from my IM that didnt work09:58
adamti91sorry09:58
robotgeekubotu: tell adamti91 about pastebin09:58
LjLbl3ssing: "kill -s 9 ProcessNumber", where "ProcessNumber" is the first column in the "ps aux" output09:59
bl3ssingubotu: tell adamti91 about pastebin09:59
LjLbl3ssing: or, you can just ctrl+esc and kill from there09:59
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bl3ssingkool ... LjL I'll try both of them.09:59
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bl3ssing:-)09:59
adamti91well im off to chance my boot command09:59
adamti91to /dev/hda309:59
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bl3ssingI did it LjL ... easy easy ... I'll start to learn.10:05
bl3ssing:-)10:05
bl3ssingThanks bro ... again.10:05
LjL;)10:05
bl3ssingGod richly bless you.10:05
bl3ssinggr ... many things of to think of here .... ;)10:05
bl3ssingbut it is ok.10:05
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bl3ssingnow ... LjL , can you help me in another thing, pls? I'd love to install my codecs so that I can run the mpeg/mpg/avi/dvi ... files. Can I?10:06
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jpatrickbl3ssing: yes10:06
jpatrickinstall gstreamer-0.8-plugins10:06
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bl3ssingthey are allready installed.10:07
bl3ssingjpatrick, anything else?10:07
bl3ssing:)10:07
bl3ssingthanks for helping me.10:07
LjLbl3ssing: yes, you can, read the RestrictedFormat article, makes it quite easy10:07
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LjLbl3ssing: basically, just install everything that begins with "gstreamer-0.8-" ;)10:08
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LjLbl3ssing: that includes gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse , if you really want most formats... you must have the Multiverse (as well as the Universe) repository enabled, of course10:09
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libbenanyone wanna help me with my xp partition? i had winxp installed before i installed linux on my new 200 gb seagate... now ive mounted windows hda to /media/windows but i cant looad windows from grub. think the grub was overwriting the mbr on my xp drive. and what will happend if i try to fix this? my grub will stop work? and i need livecd to fix it?10:09
Kibouyou can't boot into windows?10:10
libbennope. not when i tried to edit the grub for it.. and i tried all hda,1 hda,0 and so on that my hda had10:12
Kibouso windows doesn't show up in the grub boot loader screen, right?10:13
bl3ssinggreat LjL , I'll do my best.10:13
bl3ssing:)10:13
bl3ssingthanks ...10:13
libbenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/505210:13
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libbenKibou: not in grub no. but ive tried to boot it manually with the right parm10:14
libbeni think its because mbr10:14
Kibouwhat does your menu.lst in /boot/grub say?10:14
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mymayeri just installed kubuntu, iam used to debian. Somehow i have locked me out, he is not accepting my root password rigth after the installation. What to do ? Boot in safe mode and than gain access ?10:16
mymayerDont ask me, what happend. I did the normal installation, no erros. Just login as root is impossible10:16
rob_melbhmm what do I use to login/passwd to kubuntu live cd10:16
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mymayer?10:18
libbenKibou: right now its default one10:18
libbenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/505310:18
robotgeekubotu: tell mymayer about sudo10:18
libbenand this was my partitions http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/505210:18
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Kiboulook at the stuff starting at line 3810:19
Kibouuncomment that and you have an entry for windows in grub10:20
libbenyeah i know.10:20
libbenbut i cant get it to load.10:20
libbeneven when i set the entrys for my drive in there10:20
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jefhelp meh10:20
luxocultaoixx10:20
libbenand i think it has to do with my f**d up mbr on my xp drive. that starts linux also10:20
luxocultahey guys10:20
libbenwell i think i putted the linux mbr on the xp part 10:21
jefI just installed kubuntu. It never asked for root password. whats ze deal10:21
Kibouif grub pops up it's probably on the mbr of the first drive, yea10:21
libbenjef: no root10:21
jef?10:21
libben!tell jef about root10:22
luxocultaif you try to do somrhin g in wich you dont have permissin 10:22
Kiboubut you still should be able to boot windows in grub10:22
luxocultait wil  ask!110:22
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libbenif u look in my partitions table10:22
libbenKibou: ^^ 10:22
libbenwhat should i type in the hd0,1 section10:22
jefno root thats crazy10:23
Kibouhda1 = hd0,010:23
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_martinHelp a nOOb out please... I just installed ScummVM and downloaded "Beneath a steel sky". It seems to have put some package in the var/cache/apt/archives folder. How to I proceed to install or compile the archive or whatever you do to get to work?10:25
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Kibouit's still like in your menu.lst.. just uncomment the windows stuff10:27
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_martinWhat?10:28
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libbenjef u can get root if u want.10:34
Flying_Eaglewhen im hunting a bug in kcontrol and need help. should i ask in #kde-devel or kubuntu-dev?10:34
bl3ssingI'm having a Party, a Party for 2, ... a party, a Party for 2.10:35
bl3ssing:-)10:35
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wtfzorzim likeing kubuntu10:38
CarstenPme too!10:38
wtfzorzshould I selece linux-686 in Adept or just leave it10:39
wtfzorzI used i386 cd iso10:39
wtfzorzselect*10:39
CarstenPi have no idea 10:39
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l3m_martin: the game is in /usr/share/games10:39
l3m_martin: just open scummvm, "add game" and point in to /usr/share/games/....10:40
l3m_martin: err, actuall /usr/games10:41
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seth_k|lappywtfzorz, what proc do you have?10:41
l3m_martin: /usr/games/queen/queen for flight of the amazon queen10:42
l3mand so on10:42
seth_k|lappyFlying_Eagle, I'd try #kde, not #kde-devel10:42
Flying_Eagletheres somebody just helping me in kde-devel10:42
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luxocultahey 10:46
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luxocultai need some help with "Konversation"10:46
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luxocultahow do i see the channels list! sorry !nOOb!10:47
luxoculta?10:47
fatejudgeris Kubuntu going to have the new Gstreamer 0.10 packages as soon as the source is released?10:47
LjLluxoculta: what channel list?10:47
LjLluxoculta: Windows / Channel list for <networks>?10:48
luxocultathe channels list on the "Konverstion" 10:48
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LjLyeah, listing what?10:48
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LjLwhich channels do you want listed?10:48
Riddellfatejudger: in dapper yes10:49
luxocultaall those wich are registered in this server10:49
mayerare that nvidia drivers for a 64bit system only, or just for the AMD64 prozessor ? :NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7676-pkg2.run 10:49
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LjLluxoculta: then it's the command I said. however, be aware that you'll very easily be disconnected10:49
fatejudgerRiddell: what about Breezy?10:50
Riddellfatejudger: no, breezy was released some time ago10:50
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fatejudgerRiddell: well gstreamer 0.8 sucks, and I'm not too sure about getting Dapper10:51
luxocultathanks 10:51
fatejudgerRiddell: isn't Dapper supposed to be very unstable?10:51
LjLfatejudger: until it's released, yeah10:51
Riddellfatejudger: yes (but not as unstable as breezy was during development)10:51
fatejudgerRiddell: I figured that, Breezy was all about adding features, Dapper seems to be more about making them work right10:52
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libbenKibou: when i choose hd0,0 i get NTDLR is missing10:53
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libbenand isnt that a file in c:\ 10:53
libbenanyone knows what to do10:53
libben?10:53
fatejudgerRiddell: Exactly how unstable is Dapper though? Can it be used for normal operations without worrying too much about huge data loss and the like?10:54
robotgeekfatejudger: not recommended if you need support10:54
fatejudgerI can figure most things out on my own10:54
amwhen i run sudo apt-get update10:55
ami get this10:55
amW: GPG error: ftp://fr.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv10:55
amW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:55
fatejudger!gpgerror10:55
ubotufatejudger: Are you smoking crack?10:55
Kibouhmm10:55
fatejudgerdamn, I know that one10:55
LjL!gpgerr10:55
ubotumethinks gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*10:55
fatejudgeryes, there you go10:55
fatejudgerlol10:55
fatejudgerwhy can't they spell it out?10:55
fatejudgerstupid ubotu10:55
fatejudgerI thought gpgerr referred to a wiki entry10:56
LjLubotu no, gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal10:57
ubotuLjL: okay10:57
Riddellfatejudger: flight-1 is fine10:57
MitjaDoes btdownloadcurses sometimes set a device as read only?10:57
libbenanyone knows how i fix my xp partition?10:57
libbenit says NTDLR is missing when i try to boot windows10:57
Mitjalibben: boot with xp cd, press R. then fixboot c: and fixmbr10:58
fatejudgerRiddell: my sound card has pretty bad support in gstreamer 0.8 which I know has been fixed in the devel 0.9 released, so I might try flight-110:58
fatejudgerRiddell: thanks10:58
LjLfatejudger: perhaps we could get it in backports10:58
LjLfatejudger: you should probably try asking, even though it's probably a too big piece of software to be backported10:58
Riddellfatejudger: flight-1 has no gstreamer changes, wait for flight-210:58
fatejudgerRiddell: okay, I will then10:58
fatejudgerLjL: gstreamer being backported would be great10:59
Kiboufixmbr overwrites the mbr and grub gets lost10:59
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fatejudgerLjL: I know I'm not the only one who's mad at gstreamer 0.810:59
amubotu: erm...that didn't really fix it :)10:59
ubotuam: Are you on ritalin?10:59
amah its a bot10:59
fatejudgerlol10:59
LjLfatejudger: well the way to (try to) make it happen is to make a backports request ;-) that is, of course, *after* it's been released in Dapper, since Riddel said it isn't yet..10:59
amfatejudger: yeh that didn't work10:59
fatejudgeram: I think you have to restart or wait a few minutes10:59
amoh ok11:00
fatejudgerLjL: like you said though, I think it's too big to be backported11:00
CarstenPwhat sound kernel module is currently loaded on my machine?11:00
LjLfatejudger: possibly, but trying won't hurt11:00
fatejudgerLjL: you're absolutely right11:01
bl3ssinghow're you people?11:01
ami'll restart then...seems odd though11:01
fatejudgerLjL: is there somewhere you have to make the request?11:01
amnever have to do that before11:01
fatejudgeram: then wait a few minutes11:01
fatejudgeram: apt has to register the changes or something11:01
LjLfatejudger: yes, go to ubuntuforums.org and follow the "Backports" forum, you'll find a specific sub-forum for backports requests11:01
amoh ok11:01
bl3ssingas about me ... I'm ok. Installing my video codecs through Adept. ... Thanks for asking. Has anybody asked me ... anything about how I'm doing? :-))11:01
fatejudgerLjL: ok, I'll remember to do that when 0.10 comes out11:02
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mayerhow to install the kernel-sources ?11:03
LjLsudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.1211:04
wtfzorzI removed i386 kernel and installed k7. How can I remove i386 from grub11:04
LjLwtfzorz: it was removed automatically when uninstalling i386 for me11:04
LjLwtfzorz: but anyway, you may *carefully* edit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:05
libbenMitja: will that screw something up with grub and my linux priority?11:06
wtfzorzdo i need to do anything like w/ lilo11:07
mayerLjL: iam trying to install the Nforce 3 drivers for linux. when i download and run the binary, he fails and says i need the kernel-source. What is to do now ?11:07
Mitjalibben: it might, I can't give you any warranty11:07
LjLwtfzorz: you mean running grub, like you used to run "lilo" after changing the config? if that's what you mean, then the answer is no11:07
wtfzorzgreat11:07
libbenbut then i just boot with livecd? =)11:07
Mitjalibben: probably you won't see grub or anymore after that11:07
Mitja*or lilo11:07
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LjLmayer: i haven't the slightest idea, but installing linux-source-2.6.12 would probably be the most reasonable thing to try11:08
libbenyeah, but that i wont wanna do...11:08
libbeni just wanna be able to boot my xp again11:08
mayerLjL: it didnt work11:08
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wtfzorzi forgot. is the fgl driver for ati in adept ati's or something else11:08
mayerLjL:  how to get my current kernel version ?11:08
LjLmayer: "uname -r"11:08
Mitjalibben: somehow reconfigure grub for it to be able to see windows installation11:08
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Mitjalibben: it will add it to the list11:09
LjLmayer: you could try installing the kernel header... "apt-cache search linux-headers"11:09
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mayerLjL: No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means that the installer will need to compile a new kernel interface.11:09
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mayerLjL: what could that mean ?11:09
Mitjalibben: or forget it, the thing you mentioned is windows thing, not grub's11:09
LjLmayer: look, i've never installed that driver, so i'm just guessing... but that doesn't sound like an error, rather something that's normal11:10
mayeryes11:10
mayerbut then11:10
mayerUnable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.  Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files11:10
mayer         for your kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' rpm installed.  If you know the correct11:10
mayer         kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.11:10
mayerLjL:  SORRY11:10
mayerSORRY11:11
libbenMitja: ?11:11
libbenso what do i do?11:11
mayeri didnt want to do that, iam sorry guys11:11
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LjLmayer: hmm, after installing linux-source, you should have a file /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz211:12
LjLmayer: you must bunzip2 and untar that file, to actually get the sources installed11:12
LjLmayer: cd /usr/src; tar jxf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz211:13
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mayerLjL: wow..what a help. Thank you very much11:14
Mitjalibben: find out if you can reinstall grub after you fix windows loader11:14
mayerLjL: didnt helped11:14
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mayertest11:16
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mymayerLjL: can i pm you for pasting to i think important lines ?11:17
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LjLmymayer: yes, but why not just use the pastebin... or, another alternative is to use the channel #flood11:18
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Aadenanyone know if kubuntu will work correctly w/ ati cards11:19
LjLmymayer: but, really, i don't think i can be of much help with installing that specific driver...11:19
LjLAaden: they say nvidia usually work better, but, yes11:19
LjL!tell aaden about ati11:19
Aadenthank you11:20
Aadenbut get this11:20
LjL?11:21
Aadenw/ my ati card when i have it installed and i install breezy it just freezes me at a black screen when it trys to boot up11:21
Aadenif i take it out11:21
Aadenreinstall11:21
Aadenit works fine 11:21
Aaden=\11:21
LjLhm you'd have to ask to someone else, i have neither an ati nor an nvidia, and know almost zilch about graphics cards...11:22
Aadenoh darn..11:22
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LjLyou could try in #ubuntu as well11:22
Aadenehhh11:22
LjLyeah, i know11:23
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Aadengeez this is really making my day11:25
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am GPG error: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv11:27
amhi guys, still getting these11:27
amany ideas?11:27
amremoved ~.gpg 11:27
ametc..11:28
amran apt-get update11:28
LjLperhaps try with another mirror? maybe the french one is having problems11:28
robotgeek!gpgERR11:28
ubotuwell, gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal11:28
LjLrobotgeek: been through that11:29
amrobotgeek: yeh done that already thanks11:29
robotgeekheh,sorry11:29
amanyone got a european mirror they know is workign ?11:29
LjLit.11:29
LjLis working for me11:29
amhmm11:30
ami'm running PPC could that make a difference ?11:30
LjLjust change all your "fr." into "it." in /etc/sources.list to use it11:30
LjLno idea honestly11:30
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wtfzorzhow can I change icon size11:32
amErr ftp://it.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg11:32
am  PASS failed, server said: Login incorrect.11:32
LjLftp?11:32
goldinohi all11:32
LjLno, use gttp mirrors, am11:32
LjLs/gttp/http/11:33
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amLjL: YAY!! it works11:34
amsilly french :P11:34
wtfzorzthese icons r huge11:34
amtoo busy rioting to maintain their servers11:34
dubettierhi, is it possible to save my config on usb disk or hard disk when I use kubuntu livecd11:35
ninHerhi all11:35
LjLam: ;-)11:35
LjLam: but you should try french *http* mirrors anyway, if they're faster for you... just don't use ftp11:35
libbenLjL: libben: no there is a better way. use a live cd like knoppix or ubuntu live and mount ur partitions, chroot them, then grub-install again to fix ur mbr and install the bootloader11:36
libbeni got that message from ubuntu11:36
libbenanyone in here wanna help me when i boot with livecd?11:36
amLjL: cheers11:36
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mymayerwhich is the best way to mount a partition of my debian server ? using NFS or smb ?11:40
dubettierI want to save my  personnal data somewhere (on a usb key for example), when using kubuntu livecd. Is it possible ?11:40
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darkradhello11:40
darkradanybody help me with mysql ?11:40
darkradneed to install it11:40
darkradhow should i get version 5.0 installed?11:41
darkradcan i use apt-get?11:41
fatejudgerdarkrad: probably11:41
thompais anybody using encryption stuff in kmail, know how to set it up?11:41
CarstenPdarkrad: i would try it11:41
CarstenPdarkrad: perhaps you could use adept?11:41
darkradi added dotdeb repository source11:41
darkradadept?11:41
CarstenPunder system ? the packet manager?11:42
darkradkynaptic11:42
fatejudgerdarkrad: do you use Hoary?11:42
darkradya11:42
fatejudgerdarkrad: you should probably dist-upgrade11:43
darkradhmm11:43
darkradsomething that can be done auto?11:43
fatejudgeryes11:43
darkradhow?11:43
fatejudger!tell darkrad about Breezy11:44
darkradhmm11:51
darkradso if i don'0t have synaptics i can't use the pack manager?11:52
darkradi have kynaptics11:52
Riddellkynaptic in hoary, adept in breezy11:52
darkradya, talking about the breezy upgrade guide11:53
Riddelluse kynaptic11:53
darkradOpen up Synaptic Package Manager 11:53
darkrad Change your repositories to look for Breezy11:53
Riddellalthough it doesn't have a sources.list editor so you'll need to do that by hand or with synaptic11:53
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darkradhow to do that?11:53
oshdarkrad: I did the upgrade dance. Worked like a charm for me. Basically I just replaced the word hoary with the word breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list and typed "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade"11:54
kkathmandarkrad: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes11:54
kkathmanthats all you need to know actually11:54
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darkradok, doing11:58
cl3hello all..  how do I change the sound card in kubuntu?11:58
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Mars^Hi11:59
Mars^I have a little problem11:59
Mars^Cause i have AMD athlon 64 2800+ processor11:59
mymayerwhich is the best/fastes way to mount a partition of my debian server? NFS or smb or smth other? This mount should be like a "real" partition on my desktop machine..12:00
mymayerMars^: is kubuntu freezing ?12:00
cl3is there a way to chg my sound card mod - the nm256 mod is not working?12:01
cl3its an old tp390 laptop12:01
cl3I had vector linux on it and the sound worked with a CS4232 mod..12:02
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