[12:18] <lllmanulll> Hi guys
[12:18] <lllmanulll> I'd like to have your opinions/advice about something
[12:19] <lllmanulll> I'm designing icons for a new "session window" in Ubuntu
[12:19] <lllmanulll> It'll have Reboot, Shut Down, Log Out and Hibernate
[12:19] <lllmanulll> Already have some propositions here :
[12:19] <lllmanulll> http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/session_icons/
[12:19] <lllmanulll> Look mainly at the "Tango" part
[12:20] <lllmanulll> i'm searching for ideas : what symbol to use for Log Out and Hibernate ?
[12:24] <derek[] > your "version 1" illustrations look fine, except for the reboot
[12:25] <lllmanulll_> derek[] : What about the "recycle" type reboot ?
[12:26] <lllmanulll_> Third from the left
[12:26] <lllmanulll_> Actually, the first three are three different versions of "reboot" :)
[12:26] <derek[] > yeah, that one is better
[12:26] <lllmanulll_> Great :)
[12:26] <derek[] > and do you necessarily have to use the glossy 3D look?
[12:27] <derek[] > I'd rather prefer simple
[12:27] <lllmanulll_> Well, I try to comply with the Tango style ?
[12:27] <derek[] > yeah
[12:27] <lllmanulll_> Oh, if you talk about the "Version 1" part, I probably won't use it
[12:27] <derek[] > out of these two, go for the "tango"
[12:27] <lllmanulll_> Right, I agree :)
[12:28] <derek[] > I mean
[12:28] <derek[] > use the illustrations of ver.1
[12:28] <lllmanulll_> And what would you use for "Hibernate" and "Reboot" ?
[12:28] <derek[] > except for the 'reboot'
[12:28] <lllmanulll_> Ah, I see
[12:28] <derek[] > the 'refresh' kind
[12:28] <lllmanulll_> Well, I was told that the "Zzz" part wouldn't be clear to everybody
[12:28] <derek[] > but if you can come up with a new idea, be better. Because this one looks like the 'refresh' in browsers :)
[12:29] <lllmanulll_> People who don't necessarily have a "cartoon" or "comics" culture
[12:29] <derek[] > right
[12:29] <lllmanulll_> Right, but it's color is particular, and it will be used in a very different context
[12:29] <derek[] > but you're not going to use only icons, are you?
[12:29] <derek[] > there'll be text accompanying it?
[12:29] <lllmanulll_> Yes yes
[12:30] <lllmanulll_> I think so
[12:30] <derek[] > then it shouldn't be a problem
[12:30] <lllmanulll_> probably just under the icons
[12:30] <lllmanulll_> right
[12:52] <klepas> ah, hello
[12:57] <derek[] > hallo klepas 
[12:57] <klepas>  how's it going?
[01:15] <derek[] > gut, danke
[01:15] <derek[] > und dir?
[01:17] <klepas> naja. es geht so :)
[01:18] <derek[] > :)
[01:18] <derek[] > naja - ?
[01:20] <klepas> so-so
[01:20] <klepas> :)
[01:22] <artnay> isn't ZzZ more like standby icon?
[01:27] <derek[] > :)
[01:29] <artnay> I mean, when one goes to sleep, he's still active although he is not "active"
[01:29] <artnay> just as when computer goes to standby mode
[01:29] <artnay> but hibernation should be though differently
[01:29] <artnay> +t
[01:30] <artnay> maybe the door theme (logout) could be modified to fit as hibernation icon? or then something totally different
[01:31] <artnay> but if two doors is too much, then neither of those shouldn't be used (door nor ZzZ)
[01:32] <artnay> better suggestions are always welcome, right? ;)
[01:36] <artnay> and to the top of all, that would go against the principle to not have text on icons (which I don't agree _that_ much)
[01:39] <artnay> btw, is humility still under development?
[01:42] <klepas> Not in its original forms
[01:43] <klepas> It is being re-named
[01:43] <klepas> with new things added
[01:43] <klepas> talk to Andyfitz
[01:44] <artnay> I'd like to see it developed more openly, just like tango
[01:44] <artnay> oxygen icons look pretty neat, but the development isn't as open as it is with tango
[03:02] <klepas> moin
[03:04] <derek[] > 'humility' ?
[03:18] <klepas> what about humility :)
[03:24] <derek[] > what is it? :)
[03:24] <derek[] > I know what it is in English :P
[03:24] <derek[] > what were you two talking about?
[03:24] <derek[] > is it some theme?
[04:01] <klepas> no idea
[04:07] <derek[] > o.o
[04:07] <derek[] > you got no idea about it and still you were talking about it?
[04:07] <derek[] > <artnay> btw, is humility still under development?
[04:07] <derek[] > <klepas> Not in its original forms
[04:07] <derek[] > <klepas> It is being re-named
[04:07] <derek[] > <klepas> with new things added
[04:27] <klepas> yea
[04:28] <klepas> that was last i heard about it
[04:28] <klepas> Humility is an icon set
[04:38] <derek[] > k
[04:45] <klepas> I'm off
[04:45] <klepas> it's 2:45 AM here
[04:45] <klepas> nite