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| === dholbach is so excited already. | ||
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| dholbach | Hi everybody! | 05:00 |
|---|---|---|
| dholbach | can everybody, who is here for the Desktop Team meeting state their name? | 05:01 |
| === dholbach is Daniel Holbach | ||
| Nafallo | ChristianBjlevik | 05:01 |
| === seb128 is Sebastien Bacher | ||
| dholbach | i see | 05:01 |
| dholbach | that gives the meeting a more cozy atmosphere | 05:02 |
| dholbach | shall we wait a minute or two? :) | 05:02 |
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| === slomo is Sebastian Drge | ||
| === ogra is OliverGrawert | ||
| dholbach | hi Simira | 05:02 |
| dholbach | hub excuses himself | 05:02 |
| Simira | hi there. I seemed to have dropped into a meeting | 05:02 |
| ogra | where is our jdub ? | 05:02 |
| dholbach | Simira: we were just about to start, interested in the desktop team meeting? | 05:03 |
| dholbach | ogra: good question - some of us ask that ourselves for some days now ;) | 05:03 |
| seb128 | ogra: probably sleeping | 05:03 |
| Simira | dholbach : not really, I'm on a workshop with another job ;) | 05:03 |
| seb128 | I've spoken with him on IRC 2 days ago | 05:03 |
| seb128 | he still have no DSL | 05:03 |
| dholbach | Simira: i see | 05:03 |
| === MarioMeyer is Mario Meyer | ||
| ogra | dholbach, i know he got a new DSL line which was delayed ... but thats a info from beginning of last week | 05:03 |
| dholbach | ok | 05:04 |
| === lllmanulll is Manu Cornet | ||
| === dholbach knows those problems | ||
| ogra | who doesnt :) | 05:04 |
| dholbach | did vuntz say anything? :) | 05:04 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ping | 05:04 |
| dholbach | he just said, he wanted to have the announce on the fridge ;) | 05:04 |
| dholbach | maybe that's why he didnt turn up :) | 05:04 |
| dholbach | ok... let's get going anyways | 05:05 |
| dholbach | seb128 and i were wondering, how we can put more life into the desktop team | 05:05 |
| dholbach | while the announce ot the team itself was a success (look at the bunch of people, and especially upstream people that are in the channel), we thought we might promote the idea a bit more | 05:06 |
| dholbach | we started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/MeetingIdeas with a bunch of ideas | 05:06 |
| dholbach | i personally felt, that we might need a bit more of organisation and places to point people to, where they could help out, since the observation "seb128 does GNOME all alone" is kind of wrong ;) | 05:07 |
| dholbach | i hope we can all agree on that :) | 05:07 |
| seb128 | yeah | 05:08 |
| Nafallo | sure, it's seb128 and dholbach now ;-) | 05:08 |
| seb128 | lol | 05:08 |
| dholbach | haha :) | 05:08 |
| MarioMeyer | lol | 05:08 |
| seb128 | one to break stuff, the other one to fix | 05:08 |
| Nafallo | lol | 05:08 |
| seb128 | and we switch every week :p | 05:08 |
| dholbach | we switch every day to keep it exciting | 05:08 |
| dholbach | or well... :) | 05:08 |
| seb128 | ;) | 05:08 |
| dholbach | do you have any thoughts on this? | 05:09 |
| ogra | i think the prob is that the desktop is in main ... | 05:09 |
| Nafallo | better start making random switches for even more excitement :-) | 05:09 |
| dholbach | initiatives we could start, things you'd expect from the team, ... | 05:09 |
| seb128 | and? | 05:09 |
| ogra | its not as easy as getting your hands on universe packages | 05:09 |
| dholbach | ogra: do you think it'd help to state clearly, that we're happy to sponsor uploads until people are ready for main? | 05:09 |
| ogra | people wont just jump on packages that are in main like they do for universe packages | 05:09 |
| seb128 | you can bug triage, have nice idea, package new stuff, send patches, do artwork (hey lllmanulll), etc | 05:10 |
| ogra | dholbach, absolutely | 05:10 |
| dholbach | ogra: ok, maybe we should make that clearer | 05:10 |
| lllmanulll | Hey :) | 05:10 |
| ogra | dholbach, not clearer, but more public .... shout it out to the world :) | 05:10 |
| === dholbach makes a note :) | ||
| lllmanulll | I'll ask you guys about the stuff I did yesterday in a while, if there's nothing else to talk about :p | 05:11 |
| dholbach | i thought, that maybe with a bit more of organisation (like description of workflow, ie: what to do, when upgrading a package, ...) might help with that too (to lower the entry point) | 05:11 |
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| dholbach | hey vuntz_ | 05:12 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: we started without you already | 05:12 |
| seb128 | hi vuntz_ | 05:12 |
| vuntz_ | hi | 05:12 |
| vuntz_ | sorry for being late | 05:12 |
| dholbach | what would you all like to see from the desktop team? or do in the desktop team? | 05:12 |
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| dholbach | does the MeetingIdeas page give you ideas, answer questions? | 05:13 |
| === mvo michael vogt and late | ||
| ogra | what is " own Wiki table (apart from UniverseCandidates" ? | 05:13 |
| dholbach | ogra: ah yes... i wanted to have a gnome/ubuntu-desktop specific table of stuff we take care of and we want to see ASAP | 05:14 |
| ogra | does that mean NEW sftware or software that should move into the default desktop ? | 05:14 |
| dholbach | might move into the default desktop at some stage | 05:14 |
| ogra | ah, yes | 05:14 |
| dholbach | for example marlin (a sound editor) is still bumpy, but i'd really like to see it - so if we as a team could try to get it in (and working together with upstream), that'd be great | 05:14 |
| === dholbach feels like in the UbuntuAndUpstream-BOF again. | ||
| ogra | heh | 05:15 |
| dholbach | so you all see everything you want from the desktopteam going already? :) | 05:16 |
| dholbach | once we're big enough as a team, we could even take more care of the gnome part of universe | 05:17 |
| vuntz_ | well, I think the team just needs a bit more organization, but in the end, we don't want too much organization (I guess) | 05:17 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: it does, i agree with you | 05:17 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: can you think of something that should be better defined? | 05:18 |
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| dholbach | seb128: do you think the point about making the desktop specs more "accessible" to people from the desktop team makes sense? | 05:19 |
| vuntz_ | dholbach: have permanent links of bugs to triage | 05:19 |
| vuntz_ | dholbach: have lists of easy bugs to fix | 05:19 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: yeah, that'd be great | 05:19 |
| vuntz_ | lists of easy tasks to do | 05:19 |
| seb128 | dholbach: how accessible? | 05:19 |
| vuntz_ | it's also a matter of showing that it's easy to contribute :-) | 05:20 |
| dholbach | seb128: 'accessible' like bits of specs, where people can help out | 05:20 |
| seb128 | we started alist of tasks | 05:20 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: ++ | 05:20 |
| dholbach | yeah, i think that's a good start | 05:20 |
| dholbach | did everybody know about DesktopTeam/TODO? :) | 05:20 |
| ogra | nope | 05:20 |
| vuntz_ | not me | 05:20 |
| seb128 | I put some stuff here which would be useful | 05:20 |
| seb128 | than we want to do | 05:20 |
| seb128 | but what we don't do yet because we are too busy | 05:20 |
| seb128 | ie: stuff nice to contribute | 05:21 |
| seb128 | like splitting totem to make a mozilla binary package :) | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | nope | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | and getting the menuicon back :-P | 05:21 |
| seb128 | ? | 05:21 |
| === Nafallo hides* | ||
| seb128 | we have no such bug | 05:21 |
| lllmanulll | I agree about the "easy things to do", and with this kind of list, I would certainly contribute much more :) | 05:21 |
| dholbach | ReturnOfTheMenuIcons-BOF :) | 05:21 |
| vuntz_ | hey lllmanulll :-) | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | seb128: I haven't filed it yet :-) | 05:22 |
| seb128 | lllmanulll: I've a special task for you, you started on it | 05:22 |
| seb128 | lllmanulll: the new gnome-session logout dialog seems a perfect job for you :) | 05:22 |
| ogra | what about "ship activeX control dlls with wine" *g* | 05:22 |
| vuntz_ | also, I'm wondering how much the desktop team should work with upstream | 05:22 |
| vuntz_ | ie, how much new development should be done | 05:22 |
| ogra | i guess wine will enter main at some point ... | 05:22 |
| lllmanulll | seb128: All right, perfect :) | 05:22 |
| seb128 | lllmanulll: you really want to work on this? would be great | 05:23 |
| vuntz_ | (or if it's a "package, triage bugs & fix bugs" team) | 05:23 |
| seb128 | lllmanulll: that's probably much easier than the add to panel | 05:23 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: the development depends on how much people are contributing | 05:24 |
| lllmanulll | seb128: No problem | 05:24 |
| seb128 | rock | 05:24 |
| vuntz_ | dholbach: right :-) | 05:24 |
| lllmanulll | seb128: I guess it would be quite easy, yeah | 05:24 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: if somebody wants to hack gnome-panel to do $SOMETHING_CRAZY, we could push it into ubuntu to get people testing it and we'd contribute it upstream - i think that makes sense | 05:24 |
| mvo | in general we do not too much development. but some HIG experts would be very welcome IMO :) | 05:25 |
| dholbach | (as an example) | 05:25 |
| lllmanulll | seb128: Huh, let me make sure : it's just a very simple dialog with four or five buttons with icons, and "OK" and "Cancel", right ? :) | 05:25 |
| Nafallo | mvo++ | 05:25 |
| dholbach | mpt is unfortunately in holidays | 05:25 |
| dholbach | i think he'd have had some ideas on this | 05:25 |
| dholbach | i just created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/NewSoftware | 05:25 |
| vuntz_ | seb128/lllmanulll: note that markmc wanted to move the dialog to the panel | 05:25 |
| seb128 | lllmanulll: let's discuss that later on -desktop, but that's a real panel with 2 areas for the 2 kinds of actions (like windows has 2 buttons) and the icons here to do that | 05:25 |
| seb128 | vuntz_: what dialog? accept lllmanulll's work upstream? | 05:26 |
| vuntz_ | seb128: logout dialog | 05:26 |
| seb128 | oh, ok | 05:26 |
| seb128 | doesn't matter where the code is | 05:26 |
| seb128 | :) | 05:26 |
| seb128 | yeah | 05:27 |
| seb128 | I agree with mvo | 05:27 |
| seb128 | an usuability team would rock | 05:27 |
| dholbach | did you all know about UsabilityWishlist? | 05:27 |
| seb128 | somebody to ping when you get usuability/HIG bugs and I've not clue about this | 05:27 |
| lllmanulll | dholbach: Huh, no | 05:27 |
| dholbach | :) | 05:27 |
| seb128 | not "no clue", but are not good at designing :) | 05:27 |
| Nafallo | dholbach IS the wiki-master :-) | 05:27 |
| mvo | usability team++ | 05:28 |
| lllmanulll | Yeah | 05:28 |
| lllmanulll | But that's a lot of teams :) Couldn't usability issues be given to the Desktop team ? Or is this a totallly weird idea ? :) | 05:28 |
| dholbach | a subteam, like some people who "have a clue" and enjoy doing HIG/usabilty? | 05:29 |
| mvo | yeah, let's make it only one team for now | 05:29 |
| dholbach | i met a guy here in berlin, who'd enjoy working on this | 05:29 |
| dholbach | as ogra said: we should raise awareness of the team | 05:30 |
| lllmanulll | I would love working on usability issues too | 05:30 |
| dholbach | i think there are a lot of people using ubuntu, who would care about the desktop and love working on this | 05:30 |
| seb128 | would be nice to have a different list or something like GNOME guys do | 05:30 |
| seb128 | so you can Cc: usuability-list on a bug to get their opinion | 05:30 |
| dholbach | sounds good, as soon as we have some more people for this | 05:31 |
| dholbach | shall we start DesktopTeam/Organisation and dump our ideas there? | 05:32 |
| dholbach | as we don't have a gobby session here ;) | 05:32 |
| Nafallo | why don't we? :-) | 05:32 |
| dholbach | because the wiki saves stuff more securely than gobby? :-p | 05:33 |
| ogra | bah | 05:33 |
| === ogra will write a main inclusion report for gobby over the weekend and add it to edubuntu-desktop :p | ||
| Nafallo | oki. I have only used it once so... ;-) | 05:34 |
| Nafallo | ogra: yay! :-) | 05:34 |
| dholbach | Nafallo: it trashed a couple of specs at UBZ :) | 05:34 |
| ogra | dholbach, thats a user error :) | 05:35 |
| mvo | ogra: ... | 05:35 |
| dholbach | yeah, sorry, it was my mistake to not save every minute :) | 05:35 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 05:35 |
| ogra | *grin* | 05:35 |
| Nafallo | ogra: implement auto-saving before MainInclusion to make it dholbach-friendly aswell? :-) | 05:36 |
| ogra | hehe | 05:36 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Organisation | 05:36 |
| ogra | Nafallo, if $USER == 'somekindofholbach' autosave on ? | 05:37 |
| Nafallo | lol | 05:37 |
| mvo | ogra: will you fix "close button closes on all clients without saving and asking" too first? | 05:37 |
| dholbach | IS_DHOLBACH_USING_THIS=1 gobby works normally | 05:37 |
| ogra | mvo, probably ... | 05:38 |
| ogra | :) | 05:38 |
| ogra | i'll look at it ... i want it for edubuntu so i'll probably have to do the fixes | 05:39 |
| ogra | dholbach, Organisation looks good ... | 05:39 |
| ogra | so far | 05:40 |
| lllmanulll | So what's the decision about usability ? Create a new list/team ? I'd *love* to participate :) | 05:40 |
| dholbach | we should start with the ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com list | 05:41 |
| dholbach | and the team as it is | 05:41 |
| seb128 | I'm for creating the tools now | 05:41 |
| seb128 | I don't agree | 05:41 |
| lllmanulll | All right, I vote for seb128 ! | 05:41 |
| lllmanulll | :-p | 05:41 |
| dholbach | :) | 05:41 |
| seb128 | usuability is something that is useful for desktop guys | 05:41 |
| dholbach | it's just that there is ~0 traffic on ubuntu-desktop@ | 05:41 |
| seb128 | but need to be created because desktop guys often are not usuability expert | 05:42 |
| seb128 | or don't care | 05:42 |
| seb128 | or are not good at designing stuff | 05:42 |
| seb128 | and usuability guys probably don't want to follow all the technical discussions | 05:42 |
| seb128 | right, which is a different topic | 05:42 |
| ogra | seb128, we'll need the people first ... | 05:42 |
| seb128 | I tend to think than people come when the thing exist | 05:43 |
| ogra | make a call for help to the mailing lists at first step | 05:43 |
| seb128 | and don't come to force you to create it | 05:43 |
| dholbach | look at the motu business - we STILL have no mailing list - do you think we'd get it for ubuntu-usability@ faster? :) | 05:43 |
| ogra | get people in to show there is momentum ... | 05:43 |
| === vuntz_ wonders why his name appears in Organisation ;-) | ||
| ogra | than ask for a list | 05:43 |
| ogra | vuntz_, because you talked about the topic nextto it ;) | 05:44 |
| seb128 | vuntz_: what do you think? Creating a list first which will encourage enthousiastic people to subscribe, or other way? | 05:44 |
| seb128 | trying to get people using -desktop to start | 05:44 |
| seb128 | and moving if there is enough of them | 05:44 |
| vuntz_ | I'd say it's better to have only one list at the beginning | 05:44 |
| seb128 | k | 05:44 |
| seb128 | so let's use -desktop for it | 05:44 |
| seb128 | you guys win | 05:44 |
| vuntz_ | and I'm a bit afraid that we ask too much to usability people if they are only 2 or 3 | 05:45 |
| === dholbach hugs seb128, so he's not unhappy any more | ||
| vuntz_ | (that's what's happening in GNOME for bugs...) | 05:45 |
| seb128 | I'm not unhappy | 05:45 |
| dholbach | *nod* | 05:45 |
| seb128 | but I tend to think that usuability guys will not subscribe to a technical list | 05:45 |
| === lllmanulll has to go but no matter when the usability list is created, I will be glad to contribute :) | ||
| ogra | is the -desktop list a technical list ? | 05:46 |
| seb128 | is supposed to be yep | 05:46 |
| ogra | i havent seen any technical stuff there yet | 05:46 |
| seb128 | the ubuntu-devel of the desktop team | 05:46 |
| dholbach | lllmanulll: super, have a nice day :) | 05:46 |
| seb128 | no, there is virtually no discussion atm | 05:46 |
| seb128 | we use IRC most of the time :) | 05:46 |
| lllmanulll | Cheers :) | 05:46 |
| vuntz_ | what about asking the people who will be in the usability subteam ? | 05:47 |
| seb128 | yeah | 05:47 |
| seb128 | dholbach: make a point to send a mail about bringing usuability people to the desktop team | 05:47 |
| seb128 | like 'call to voluntars" | 05:47 |
| dholbach | YESSIR | 05:47 |
| ogra | a real dholbach announce please :) they seem to attract people ;) | 05:48 |
| ogra | (see the bugdays) | 05:48 |
| dholbach | merci beaucoup | 05:48 |
| seb128 | with a nut of vuntz_ with it | 05:48 |
| === dholbach blushes and curtseys | ||
| seb128 | so it's perfect :) | 05:48 |
| ogra | yeah | 05:48 |
| dholbach | TODO-ed it (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/TODO) | 05:49 |
| seb128 | cool | 05:49 |
| ogra | yay | 05:49 |
| seb128 | dholbach: should be keep the DONE points on a table to show what we have done? | 05:49 |
| seb128 | or just drop them | 05:49 |
| dholbach | seb128: that sounds good - i always just dropped them | 05:50 |
| dholbach | but we will do that | 05:50 |
| === dholbach changes | ||
| seb128 | dholbach: I've changed | 05:50 |
| dholbach | and because the lists will be sooo long in the end, we will print them as books and they'll bestsellers | 05:50 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 05:50 |
| seb128 | :) | 05:50 |
| vuntz_ | <seb128> we use IRC most of the time :) | 05:51 |
| dholbach | good point | 05:51 |
| vuntz_ | seb128: btw, we might need to change this | 05:51 |
| ogra | dholbach, make it a requirement for all ubuntu books to put them in as appendix A | 05:51 |
| vuntz_ | (if we want more people to contribute) | 05:51 |
| seb128 | yeah | 05:51 |
| ogra | yup | 05:51 |
| dholbach | yeah, we need to document better | 05:51 |
| vuntz_ | having more discussion on -desktop is a good way to show that the team is alive and well-working | 05:52 |
| dholbach | sometimes, even i have no clue about things to come on (because i'm not chatting to upstream or debian guys all day) | 05:52 |
| seb128 | yeah, let's try to use the list when discussions could interest people | 05:53 |
| === seb128 just mailed about gconf changes :) | ||
| === dholbach saw it already :) | ||
| === ogra too .... | ||
| seb128 | I just sent it to -desktop | 05:53 |
| === Nafallo to | ||
| vuntz_ | seb128: you talked about things that could interest people ;-) | 05:53 |
| === vuntz_ runs | ||
| seb128 | vuntz_: define "people" :p | 05:54 |
| Nafallo | ahh, that's what I was doing! | 05:54 |
| seb128 | do you call yourself people? :) | 05:54 |
| Nafallo | *subscribing* | 05:54 |
| === vuntz_ waits for the mail to see if it's interesting | ||
| vuntz_ | :-) | 05:55 |
| dholbach | that went to u-d-a@ | 05:55 |
| dholbach | :) | 05:55 |
| ogra | and to u-d | 05:55 |
| ogra | and to u-dt | 05:55 |
| ogra | seb128, crossposter :p | 05:56 |
| seb128 | announce and desktop only | 05:56 |
| seb128 | and desktop just because we said we should show we do work :) | 05:56 |
| dholbach | nautilus-actions? | 05:56 |
| dholbach | wow :) | 05:56 |
| seb128 | dholbach: read planet GNOME | 05:56 |
| dholbach | i did | 05:56 |
| seb128 | k | 05:56 |
| dholbach | so what will you guys do next week in your desktop team activities? | 05:58 |
| vuntz_ | hug everyone ? | 05:59 |
| dholbach | sounds good :) | 06:00 |
| vuntz_ | or is it a bad answer? | 06:00 |
| dholbach | i just thought, this might bring up some ideas :) | 06:00 |
| ogra | isnt hugging a good idea ? | 06:00 |
| dholbach | it is :) | 06:01 |
| ogra | i mean, dont we do our regular stuff on desktop packages anyway ? | 06:01 |
| vuntz_ | dholbach: I think I'd like to help people getting involved | 06:01 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: what were you thinking about? | 06:01 |
| vuntz_ | I'm pretty useless since I don't have a lot of time | 06:01 |
| ogra | i.e. i'm fighting with a xscreensaver split into 6 packages .... do you want me to state that here ? | 06:02 |
| vuntz_ | dholbach: well, making an easy-to-find place with easy tasks | 06:02 |
| dholbach | vuntz_: you're not useless, i'm quite happy to have you here | 06:02 |
| vuntz_ | to be honest, this is something I'd like to do for GNOME too :-) | 06:02 |
| dholbach | i very much appreciate this | 06:03 |
| vuntz_ | :-) | 06:03 |
| seb128 | that's why you guys should not vote for vuntz for the foundation :) | 06:03 |
| vuntz_ | seb128: I hope they're not Foundation memebers ;-) | 06:03 |
| === dholbach is Ubuntu Desktop Team member :) | ||
| seb128 | ;) | 06:04 |
| vuntz_ | okay, so, I'd like to see this: | 06:04 |
| vuntz_ | everytime something interesting in the desktop is done, a note is added on a wiki page | 06:05 |
| vuntz_ | then, we can make nice summaries so people can see what has been done | 06:05 |
| seb128 | good idea | 06:05 |
| \sh | moins | 06:06 |
| dholbach | that's brilliant, yes | 06:06 |
| vuntz_ | ideally, I'd like to see such a summary every week (or every two weeks) | 06:06 |
| === dholbach hugs vuntz_ | ||
| vuntz_ | the mail would also contain some easy love tasks | 06:06 |
| dholbach | seb128: that will mean, we have to do more work, to make those summaries more exciting | 06:06 |
| === seb128 blinks | ||
| seb128 | I already work like 15 hours/day | 06:07 |
| seb128 | :p | 06:07 |
| vuntz_ | (this is something secret I'm planning to do for GNOME too, btw) | 06:07 |
| === seb128 brb | ||
| ogra | tsk... he sleeps 9h ? thats way to much :) | 06:07 |
| dholbach | * uploaded gnome 2.15.2 | 06:07 |
| dholbach | * had a nice dog walk | 06:07 |
| dholbach | * watched soccer game metz-nancy | 06:07 |
| dholbach | * uploaded new gnumeric | 06:07 |
| dholbach | * watched a nice movie in the cinema | 06:07 |
| dholbach | * did a bug day | 06:07 |
| dholbach | ^ that sounds good :) | 06:08 |
| vuntz_ | metz-nancy | 06:08 |
| vuntz_ | ahahahah | 06:08 |
| vuntz_ | does someone plan to send a summary of the meeting? | 06:08 |
| === dholbach can do that | ||
| vuntz_ | great | 06:09 |
| seb128 | vuntz_: thanks for voluntaring | 06:09 |
| dholbach | have to do that for the a11y meeting anyways | 06:09 |
| seb128 | s/vuntz_/dholbach | 06:09 |
| dholbach | de rien | 06:09 |
| vuntz_ | dholbach: I'm starting to be used to do this too ;-) | 06:09 |
| vuntz_ | anyway, less work for me. I love this :-) | 06:09 |
| dholbach | :) | 06:09 |
| dholbach | i think for a first meeting this went quite well | 06:10 |
| dholbach | less chaotic than i thought ;) | 06:10 |
| seb128 | yeah | 06:10 |
| dholbach | shall we have a meeting in one month of time? | 06:11 |
| Simira | I think maybe trying to blank a cd with cd-record has trashed a lot of my applications and made nothing work... | 06:11 |
| dholbach | (for those that don't enjoy christmas with their family) ;) | 06:11 |
| \sh | uh.. | 06:11 |
| slomo | dholbach: good idea, i'll be more active at that time ;) | 06:11 |
| Nafallo | dholbach: *grin* | 06:12 |
| \sh | 25. december is the birthday of my ex..and anglo-saxons highest xmas day.. | 06:12 |
| dholbach | \sh: you might have missed the smiley | 06:12 |
| \sh | that means in the morning i'm with my little one...in the afternoon ok | 06:12 |
| seb128 | friday 16th? | 06:12 |
| dholbach | sounds good | 06:12 |
| \sh | dholbach: there is no smiley for me...normally i don't celebrate xmas when I'm in single status | 06:12 |
| dholbach | should we have different times? | 06:12 |
| dholbach | to accomodate the australian/american/asian folks? | 06:13 |
| seb128 | hum | 06:13 |
| dholbach | or are we all ok with 16 UTC? | 06:13 |
| seb128 | 9utc? | 06:13 |
| dholbach | 16th, 16 UTC sounds good, doesnt it? :) | 06:14 |
| seb128 | fine with me :) | 06:14 |
| dholbach | ok, i'll put that in the meeting minutes as well | 06:14 |
| dholbach | thank you very much everybody... i really appreciated your ideas and input | 06:14 |
| dholbach | to be honest... in the first few silent minutes, i thought we were doomed :) | 06:15 |
| dholbach | but now i'm quite confident, we'll get a super-duper desktop team rolling | 06:15 |
| seb128 | :) | 06:15 |
| vuntz_ | have to go | 06:16 |
| vuntz_ | see you later | 06:16 |
| seb128 | was a nice meeting | 06:16 |
| seb128 | thanks dholbach | 06:16 |
| seb128 | thanks everybody | 06:16 |
| ogra | thanks daniel | 06:16 |
| dholbach | i enjoyed it | 06:16 |
| dholbach | everybody dismissed :) | 06:17 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 06:17 |
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