[12:00] <guydebord> The wireless is configured with wlan  IEEE 802.11g
[12:00] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: please dont use the <enter> key for puntucation
[12:01] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  would changing the scan rates and altering the xorg.conf file the same way you would for a monitor not also effect the res in a virtual machine?
[12:02] <strokey> Any ubuntu pro here? What can help me with the fear of the installer? ;o
[12:02] <nalioth> thewayofzen: i'm not too familiar with VMs
[12:02] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  neither am i but it stands to reason that it likely would function the same way..
[12:02] <Agamotto> Hallo all
[12:02] <gnomefreak> strokey,  stick the cd in and run it nothing to fear
[12:02] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  res is res and all u know?
[12:02] <bur[n] er> strokey: drink a beer or smoke a bowl ;)
[12:02] <GlobeCoder> Seveas
[12:02] <GlobeCoder> what if i just reinstall it? :F
[12:02] <strokey> i can do them 2
[12:02] <strokey> but i mean the partitions ;x
[12:02] <DuDE27> little request for dapper/breezy-backports :) new mplayer cvs version which depends on GTK-2
[12:02] <gnomefreak> strokey,  if you installed windows you can install ubuntu
[12:02] <strokey> can it auto make them? ;d
[12:02] <Zedugh> gimmulf, vga should work but only with lower color depth (8?) and 640x480, not sure what the correct (non-proprietary) driver is, but could give "radeon" a try
[12:02] <GlobeCoder> is there an optional way to just reinstall the stuff you want to
[12:03] <Agamotto> Anyone here know/use software under linux that converts .avi and other video formats to the one used on regular DVD players?
[12:03] <strokey> gnomefreak: i know i can, ive done it twice, i just lost access to my windows drive both times :d
[12:03] <navarone> stroky> resize existing partion and then let ubuntu install in freespace you made
[12:03] <nalioth> thewayofzen: it's a virtual machine, try it
[12:03] <frank23> Agamotto: google for  tovid
[12:03] <gnomefreak> strokey, how many hard drives?
[12:03] <thewayofzen>  Agamotto  im going to guess transcode.. from what nalioth showed me the other day.
[12:03] <strokey> gnomefreak: 1, no partitions
[12:03] <Agamotto> frank23:  Thank you
[12:03] <Agamotto> Two ideas... even better
[12:03] <GlobeCoder> who made ubuntu?
[12:04] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  :) i dont have a VM i was trying  reason out a fix for GlobeCoder .. even though hes "not that stupid" ;)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ok that leaves me out ive never attempted to resize any of my drives
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> The_wow
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> thewayofzen *
[12:04] <frank23> Agamotto: np
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> dont be like that
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> what i meant was
[12:04] <gnomefreak> GlobeCoder,  there are a  bunch of people that make ubuntu its a whole team
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> i know you cant get scan rates with a screenshot
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> -_-
[12:04] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: please write in complete sentences
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> i meant to get a screenshot
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> of what i see.
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> ..
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if this time its fixed brb
[12:04] <navarone> stroky> easiest thing is to buy a new drive even 40gb would be cheap. Install that and let ubuntu take over whole drive...:)
[12:04] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  you can get the RESOLUTION with a screenshot.  1024x864 is not your scan rates
[12:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GlobeCoder about enter
[12:05] <GlobeCoder> nalioth, i alreayd stopped
[12:05] <GlobeCoder> ffs
[12:05] <strokey> navarone: im so broke i can hardly afford my own bread
[12:05] <randy> Well "apt-get build-dep gnomebaker" didn't seem to do anything.  Nothing was installed.
[12:05] <guydebord> Ok, wireless problems. First open Network settings properties. ITs ok that ethernet interface and wireless interface are both active right?
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> randy,  check your current dir. I thought that installed stuff there. (the source)
[12:07] <GlobeCoder> thewayofzen
[12:07] <GlobeCoder> you got msn?
[12:07] <navarone> stroky> then let installer make the current one smaller. The space you take from the primary could be used for ubuntu. But defrag windows first if it is installed...back up any data and after partion is resized allow installer to install on "largest freespace" and that would be the space you freed up
[12:07] <Weng> base-config base-config/late_command string cd /var/apt ; wget --reply=yes http://192.168.1.1/sources.list ; apt-get apache2 ; apt-get tftpd-hpa ; cd / ; wget -r -nH http://192.168.1.1/spawn/ ; reboot
[12:07] <randy> Dr_Willis:  Nope.  nothing there.  Reading package lists... Done...Building dependency tree... Done. and then I'm back at the prompt.
[12:08] <Weng> err
[12:08] <strokey> navarone: so resize partiton to say, 90 gigs
[12:08] <Weng> wrong window
[12:08] <Weng> and that's wrong
[12:08] <strokey> and ubuntu will install on the rest?
[12:08] <navarone> stroky> what is curretn hard drive size?
[12:08] <strokey> 114gb
[12:08] <strokey> i have 0 partitions , does that make it easier? ;o
[12:08] <gigio83> hi, i'm new ther
[12:09] <gigio83> aby of you can help me???
[12:09] <gigio83> any
[12:09] <navarone> Yes strokey...I installed ubuntu on new 250 gb...partioned for windows and left 14 gb for ubuntu
[12:09] <tiramisu> gimmulf: hora
[12:09] <strokey> so partition 100 gigs and its all good
[12:09] <gimmulf> ;>
[12:09] <strokey> ?
[12:09] <Agamotto> strokey:  You could try four partitions.  One for Win, the second for you music and games under Win.  Third for root, and fourth for /home of your linux
[12:09] <gigio83> i have a problem with gnome desktop
[12:09] <Ophiocus> is there a way to resize partitions without loosing data during the installation process
[12:09] <linkd> gigio83: whats the problem?
[12:09] <gigio83> i don't view normal ion of "mycomputre, trash & other"
[12:10] <gigio83> ion = icon
[12:10] <tiramisu> please help gimmulf with his problem
[12:10] <strokey> Agamotto: that sounds far too complicated, i only want to try and get internet on linux :x
[12:10] <gimmulf> tiramisu: why its solved
[12:10] <gimmulf> :)
[12:10] <strokey> its never worked for me before and apparently it needs to be install for ndiswarpper to wrok
[12:10] <navarone> Stroky...you put in the size you want the windows area to be...100gb and that will free up the space for ubuntu. But like I said defrag first so no windows data is trapped on linux part
[12:10] <nalioth> gigio83: if you ask a question
[12:10] <Zedugh> gimmulf, how'd you fix it?
[12:10] <strokey> so defrag
[12:10] <strokey> install ubuntu?
[12:10] <strokey> ;o
[12:10] <Agamotto> strokey: Fair enough
[12:10] <gigio83> i don't view normal icon of "mycomputre, trash & other"???
[12:10] <gigio83> in Gnome
[12:11] <gimmulf> Zedugh: to old radeon drivers with X.org
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> gigio83,  Huh?
[12:11] <gimmulf> gotto apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:11] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Is this something that has happened recenly, or have you just installed?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> gigio83,  theres a little trash can at the bottom right - in the task bar.
[12:11] <gigio83> i have just install
[12:11] <gigio83> ubuntu
[12:11] <gigio83> before i have debian for 1 year
[12:11] <navarone> strokey> Agamotto is right. I hard a fat32 partition on primary drive...and a larger one on the new drive. Primary fat is for music shared between os's and the secondary fat32 is for possibly backing up my systems
[12:11] <tiramisu> gimmulf: stay away from those drivers!!!
[12:11] <tiramisu> de r dliga
[12:12] <nalioth> gigio83: did install from a cd, or upgrade from a previous version of ubuntu?
[12:12] <gigio83> from cd
[12:12] <gp> Unzip .ZIP files in Ubuntu?
[12:12] <gigio83> yes the trah at right i viewed
[12:12] <tiramisu> gp: unzip
[12:12] <linkd> lol
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> gp,  the 'unzip' command can do that. :P amazing eh?
[12:12] <GlobeCoder> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9913/lll0ne.png
[12:12] <GlobeCoder> how to fix?
[12:12] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Ubuntu handles the displaying of icons a bit differently.  You can add these icons to your panels.  Find an empty place in your panel, right click, and add object
[12:12] <gigio83> but my computer icon isn't
[12:13] <Zedugh> gimmulf, you might want to check out package xorg-driver-fglrx for accelerated ati driver
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> gigio83,  so are you saying its messed up? or  perhaps you are just expting a  windows clone. :P
[12:13] <gigio83> eh eh
[12:13] <navarone> Globe> look like you need new vid drivers
[12:13] <gimmulf> Zedugh:  that was the one i got
[12:13] <benplaut> ^^what he said
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> i got my system so tweaked - not even sure what the gnome/ubuntu defaults are any more.
[12:13] <GlobeCoder> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9913/lll0ne.png
[12:13] <GlobeCoder> how to fix?
[12:13] <tiramisu> gimmulf: why not the newer ati-drivers?
[12:13] <Lovecraft> wasaaaaaaaa cauross
[12:13] <Agamotto> gigio83:  It has been moved to the menu item called Places
[12:13] <Zedugh> gimmulf, ok then
[12:14] <Lovecraft> ahh puros gringos en esta weaaaaaaaaa
[12:14] <gigio83> i'm accustomed to gnome debian desktop
[12:14] <Agamotto> gigio83: Italiano?
[12:14] <Lovecraft> gringos culiaos .. chupen la que cuelgaaaaaaaa
[12:14] <Lovecraft> ajajaja
[12:14] <gigio83> yes
[12:14] <apokryphos> English only in here
[12:14] <Lovecraft> ^
[12:14] <strokey> navarone: i dont get it, why would i need all that? :x
[12:14] <gigio83> ciao agamotto
[12:14] <Agamotto> Ah, leave him alone he is doing ok with his english
[12:14] <corvax> walmart has a laptop onsale tommorrow $378  for wireless it says 54g 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM/SpeedBooster support
[12:14] <capacitacion> esos que peds
[12:15] <corvax> im trying to find out
[12:15] <corvax> if ill be able to get it working
[12:15] <corvax> with ndiswrappers
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  cool... goo bad im broke. :P what brand?
[12:15] <corvax> or natively
[12:15] <navarone> strokey> you dont...but a fat 32 partion would allow you to transfer files to the windows side
[12:15] <corvax> but not sure what chipeset it uses
[12:15] <GlobeCoder> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9913/lll0ne.png
[12:15] <GlobeCoder> how to fix?
[12:15] <navarone> Globe...dl new vid drivers
[12:15] <tiramisu> wtf!!!!
[12:16] <corvax> hp
[12:16] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: stop spamming
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> im not spamming, im trying to get help
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ffs
[12:16] <gigio83> i have another problem: a window error message at start
[12:16] <tiramisu> yeah by being a total jerk
[12:16] <corvax> the only specs i could find
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  it turion based? hp and compaq  have some dang near identical low end laptops
[12:16] <corvax> are here
[12:16] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: please be civil
[12:16] <corvax> http://www.infobama.com/bargain/laptop.html
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> wtf
[12:16] <navarone> Globe> if your video is messsed up try getting new vid drivers
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...........
[12:16] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: last warning
[12:16] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: try to change the rez or driver
[12:16] <Agamotto> gigio83: benvenuto al nostro posto piccolo
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> ....
[12:17] <gigio83> Error activating XKB configuration.
[12:17] <gigio83> It can happen under various circumstances:
[12:17] <gigio83> - a bug in libxklavier library
[12:17] <gigio83> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[12:17] <gigio83> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[12:17] <gigio83> X server version data:
[12:17] <corvax> semperon i guess
[12:17] <gigio83> The X.Org Foundation
[12:17] <gigio83> 60802000
[12:17] <gigio83> If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> lmao
[12:17] <gigio83> - The result of xprop -root | grep XKB
[12:17] <linkd> outoh
[12:17] <guydebord> Funny, just installed XChat on my windows laptop and there is no Join Server option.  How can I join ubuntu channel?
[12:17] <tiramisu> guydebord: /join #channel
[12:17] <gigio83> Agamotto: grazie
[12:17] <nalioth> gigio83: please dont paste in here
[12:17] <rixth> That might've been my least most painful Linux install ever.
[12:17] <_native_> w00t!
[12:17] <gigio83> sorry
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> how can i change the resolution?
[12:17] <rixth> Everything just worked(tm)
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> since i can barely see the menu
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> guydebord,  theres server stuff in the menus. you can set what channels to autojoin
[12:17] <_native_> ah ha ;] 
[12:18] <rixth> GlobeCoder, I told you FFS!
[12:18] <gigio83> but is my error
[12:18] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: in you xorg.conf file
[12:18] <psyke> hi, does anyone know if the r128 driver supports "AGPMode"? I only have 8mb video memory, but I cannot get dri on resolutions >1024x768. Can I increase the AGP aperture with this driver?
[12:18] <corvax> i see best buy has on for $379 too with the celeron m
[12:18] <navarone> rixth> it's a nice change eh?
[12:18] <nalioth> corvax: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:18] <GlobeCoder> tiramisu, how can i access that, its on virtual hd?
[12:18] <michuk> l
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  i dont see it at the walmart.com :P
[12:18] <GlobeCoder> rixth, it doesnt work what you told me
[12:18] <GlobeCoder> -_-
[12:19] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: y'all talk about black friday in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  i got a Low end Compaq V2311 laptop. was like $500 - its not bad linux wise.
[12:19] <rixth> navarone, totally. THe graphical boot process is somewhat... dissapointing?
[12:19] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: look in the /etc/ dir
[12:19] <rixth> GlobeCoder, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  ubuntu 5.10 seems to work a lot better in laptops
[12:19] <Agamotto> gigio83:  /join #ubuntu-it per supporto in Italiano
[12:19] <GlobeCoder> ...nvm
[12:19] <navarone> rixth> I find that bringing network interface up takes so long that it goes to text boot screen...lol
[12:19] <GlobeCoder> this linux is weird lmao
[12:19] <linkd> :/
[12:20] <nalioth> navarone: welcome to the club
[12:20] <tiramisu> yes!
[12:20] <tiramisu> finally, total noob
[12:20] <Sanne> kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 is running, thanks to all who helped with the suggestion.
[12:20] <corvax> walmart one se here http://walmart.richfx.com.edgesuite.net/catalog_walmart/electronics_flyer_2005/index.aspx?banner=No%20Rebates.%20%20No%20Hassles.%20Just%20Unbeatable%20Prices.&eDate=Effective%20Friday,%20Nov.%2025,%205am%20-%2011am&rfx_dontcache=&drpStoreID=2228&store=555%20Hubbard%20Ave./Suite%2012%2CPittsfield%2CMA%2C1201&zip=1201
[12:20] <corvax> ugh
[12:20] <tiramisu> gah
[12:20] <apokryphos> tinyurl.com :)
[12:20] <corvax> lmao
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[12:20] <rixth> nalioth, don't
[12:21] <nalioth> corvax: this channel is for ubuntu help, not advertising
[12:21] <nalioth> corvax: please join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss black friday, there are many who will join you there
[12:21] <rixth> Hmmm yeah, I'm sure he benefits from posting links to Walmart.
[12:21] <corvax> hey im not "advertising"
[12:21] <corvax> i asked a question
[12:21] <tiramisu> yes you are
[12:21] <tiramisu> i know you work there
[12:22] <corvax> im awaiting an answer
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> im sure many people got no idea what you mean by 'black friday' also.
[12:22] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: then join #ubuntu-offtopic with corvax and i'll explain it
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> took me a min or to to reaize what ya ment. :p
[12:22] <Stormx2> Pablo: Like black sabbath ;-)
[12:22] <tiramisu> gimmulf: hr r du ju bland vnner
[12:22] <corvax> i asked if anyone knew what chipset it used
[12:22] <corvax> because i want to use it with ubuntu
[12:23] <tiramisu> corvax: ever tried google?
[12:23] <Sanne> I need to disable a module from getting loaded (sym53c8xx, scsi adapter with Symbios Logic chip). I put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist, but it gets loaded nevertheless. Do I have other options?
[12:23] <corvax> and if i cant get wireless to work
[12:23] <Agamotto> Pablo:  It is an American expression for the day that retailers finally make money, ie.  are 'in the black.'
[12:23] <Pablo> oh
[12:23] <corvax> google is your friend is the new RTFM
[12:23] <Pablo> thanks Agamotto
[12:23] <mjk64> Pablo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_friday
[12:23] <Zugwrack> Hey everyone...I am running PowerPC and am wondering if there are libs or filesystem stuff that need to be installed to be able and mount my /dev/hda3 partition as hfs? I am installed on /dev/hdb, but need read access to some files on the primary drive...
[12:23] <nalioth> corvax: they will both work with ubuntu. the toshiba from bb will work with native drivers, the HP with ndiswrapper
[12:23] <corvax> which usually means i dont know
[12:23] <tiramisu> Zugwrack: yeah, like module hfs
[12:24] <corvax> well nalioth ill take your word for it
[12:24] <corvax> thank you
[12:24] <Agamotto> Zugwrack:  hfs module/s need to be loaded in the kernel... after that, perhaps some hfs tools
[12:24] <corvax> does the hp use broadcom?
[12:24] <nalioth> corvax: if you join #ubuntu i'll send you links to show you everything
[12:24] <nalioth> corvax: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:25] <navarone> nalioth...i looked around to see if I was in right channel...<s>
[12:25] <Zugwrack> tiramisu, Agamotto: Thanks...so you are saying I can just modprobe them? Or I still need to use synaptic to install first?
[12:25] <gigio83> i have a window error title "Error activating XKB configuration" can you help me
[12:25] <Agamotto> Synaptic would be easiest
[12:25] <arnducky> Watchoo smilin 'bout, Willis?!
[12:25] <Zedugh> i looked, don't see any hfs packages in the repos
[12:26] <PinTo> i cant remember who was helpin me b4....but i downloaded a Bz2 file..now i have extracted it i have file that says pakages...wot do i do with it?
[12:26] <corvax> maybe this channel should be  ubuntu-help?  it implies general  but the topic indicates otherwise
[12:26] <arnducky> Zedugh, as in to read Apples HFS ?
[12:26] <nalioth> Zedugh: hfs for what?
[12:26] <Zugwrack> Nevermind...I just modprobed and grepped it...lsmod shows it is loaded now.
[12:26] <Agamotto> PinTo:  dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
[12:26] <jefferson> asdf
[12:27] <PinTo> Agamotto i dont think dpkg works for some reason
[12:27] <PinTo> command unknow
[12:27] <navarone> Agamotto> Any experience using ghost 4 linux from freshmeat/sourceforge? I am thinking of using it to backup my oper-sys's...anyone
[12:27] <Agamotto> Zugwrack:  You should be able to mount/unmount the hfs volumes now
[12:27] <mjk64> Damn! During installation, I accidentally answered one question wrong in the "Configure apt"-dialog, and now I cannot repeat that configuration! FSCK it! Any hints for the command line or so? dpkt-reconfigure apt doesn't work, says "apt is not fully installed"
[12:27] <Weng> which question was it?
[12:27] <Agamotto> navarone:  Yes, I have used it with an external hd, but I haven't tried anything like DVDs to backup yet
[12:28] <Agamotto> PinTo:  What disto are you running?
[12:28] <mjk64> Weng: I think "do you want to use backported software", but not sure
[12:28] <mjk64> Weng: Anyway, I wanted a *clean* install this time :-(
[12:28] <Zedugh> had to reload repos, Zugwrack, you might want to check out packages hfsplus and/or hfsutils
[12:28] <nalioth> navarone: search newsforge.com for the article on g4l, they had a good one a month or so ago
[12:29] <Weng> mjk64: I don't even remember that being an option, and I've installed like 80 times in the past few days.
[12:29] <navarone> Agamotto> Okay...I was going to use it to backup to fat32 partition on second drive. I had it for windows backup but made it too small...however the compression in ghost may help...any pointers in usage offhand?
[12:29] <mjk64> Weng: :-)
[12:29] <Agamotto> navarone:  Run it, choose a medium level of compression, and go have a bowl or two of soup
[12:29] <mjk64> Weng: I started installation using "expert" for maximum control - and now I have to discover that I do *not* have maximum control, damnit! Why can't I just restart that !%%& dialog?
[12:29] <navarone> soup...? <s>
[12:30] <Weng> ahhh
[12:30] <Agamotto> navarone:  Takes longer to consume than cereal usually :)
[12:30] <gigio83> nobody have a reply?
[12:30] <vbgunz> anyone know how to restart the mouse?
[12:30] <Weng> mjk64: you should be able to just pound on "go back" and it'll give you a menu eventually where you can move to whatever step you want
[12:30] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Yep got it thanks...now the next problem is that I use a different username when booted to OS X...not sure if I create that username in Ubuntu I will be able to su as that user and access my /home folder...anyone know?
[12:30] <Weng> you may have to go back to a step before it, though.
[12:31] <mjk64> Weng: No chance. :-(
[12:31] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Unfortunately, that can be caused by many things.  What were you trying to do?
[12:31] <navarone> Agamotto> are the utilities for cleaning and such included and executable from menu?
[12:31] <Agamotto> navarone: Yes
[12:31] <mjk64> Weng: Older items like "Set up users and  passwords" don't work anymore, either. :-((
[12:31] <strokey> im going to go install ubuntu, while installing, can anyone tell me what to do with 150 ubuntu cds? ><
[12:31] <navarone> ty
[12:31] <levander> I've got a hung cdrecord process.  I can't even kill it with -9.  Anybody know what to do to kill it?
[12:31] <gigio83> agamotto: can i contact you in private?
[12:31] <navarone> strokey> distribute...<s>
[12:31] <Agamotto> strokey:  give them to friends
[12:31] <strokey> they dont wnat them
[12:31] <levander> levander: Anything I can do with the CD drive?
[12:31] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Yes, you may
[12:31] <Weng> strokey: Either give them away, or tile a room with them
[12:31] <strokey> i asked for 5
[12:31] <strokey> :x
[12:32] <Weng> If you have a local computer recycling organization, go "donate" them :P
[12:32] <nalioth> strokey: have an install party
[12:32] <Niklas-of-Vienna> hi fredd
[12:32] <mjk64> What is this "%&?%? I hate it ... I hate unnecessary restrictions! That's why I'm using Linux, goddamnit! And now I'm restricted as in Windows :-((
[12:32] <vbgunz> I have a problem where sometimes after idling on Ubuntu and letting the screensaver come up for a bit and logging back in, the mouse doesn't work. How do I restart the mouse?
[12:32] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, only if the numerical userid's are the same on both systems, and then I'm still not sure with hfs
[12:32] <nalioth> Weng: not that! hand them out to your local LUG, the univesitry, the libraries, etc
[12:33] <Weng> nalioth: Don't knock us computer recyclers :P
[12:33] <strokey> i might adress them
[12:33] <strokey> to random people in toulouse
[12:33] <levander> vbgunz: not that this is a great solution, but if it's a USB mouse, you could try unplug/plug back in
[12:33] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: hmmm...interesting..guess it can't hurt to try though...thanks..I assume you are PPC too?
[12:33] <strokey> oh and btw
[12:33] <guydebord2> okay two lptps connected
[12:33] <vbgunz> levander: it is a usb mouse and I tried that... It doesn't come back :(
[12:33] <strokey> does anyone have any ideas to get my usb wireless stick working without ndiswrapper?
[12:33] <strokey> so i can try as soon as i install
[12:34] <vbgunz> I am sure there is a way to restart the mouse... I usually always have a terminal on screen at least on one of my desktops... I just don't know how to restart the mouse... Anybody have any idea how to restart the mouse? Please, any help is appreciated!
[12:34] <Zedugh> No, but have mounted other distro partitions with files owned by same user name, and know the fs stores the uid, not the name
[12:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to ubuntu@brokenladder.com ?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> strokey,  check the ubuntu wiki's for your specific card/brand?  if it needs ndiswrapper.. then it needs it. :P end of story.
[12:34] <gigio83> Agamotto: receive my private message?
[12:34] <bluefire> I am wondering, how do you upgrade through the terminal?
[12:35] <strokey> Dr_Willis: i currently cant access any websites right now
[12:35] <strokey> thats why im asking :x
[12:35] <Moco> Hello, all. When I try "sudo apt-get source gcc-2.95" it returns "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:35] <Moco> " What does that mean?
[12:35] <strokey> rd
[12:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Moco about repos
[12:35] <strokey> i dont know if it needs it, ive never really put much effort into it
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> strokey,  you are online now.. :P   catch 22? or are we missing some details?
[12:35] <strokey> im on windows
[12:35] <nalioth> Moco: enable your source repos, following those instructions
[12:35] <Agamotto> gigio83:  No, I did not.  We aren't allowed as unregistered users.  Please join me on #nicechat
[12:35] <Moco> Which instructions
[12:36] <gigio83> ok
[12:36] <guydebord2> Im trying to configure my wireless connection. I have ubuntu with GNOME. ndiswrapper is unpackaged. First I deactivate all connections
[12:36] <nalioth> Moco: look at your private messages
[12:36] <mcjerry> I have an amd64 i need to run in i32 mode, could someone please send me link where to get 2.6.15 kernel
[12:36] <Moco> Oh, thanks.
[12:36] <strokey> Agamotto: make some random name and do /msg nickserv register thisisarandompass
[12:36] <Agamotto> BBIAB
[12:36] <holycow> hey all
[12:36] <TROGDOR42> lol good luck Guydebord2... that''s hard has heck
[12:37] <strokey> ok bye, im off to install ubuntu
[12:37] <strokey> ;o
[12:37] <TROGDOR42> w00t!
[12:37] <TROGDOR42> may the force be with you strokey
[12:37] <strokey> may good luck be on my side and i get the inet just magiccly ;o
[12:37] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Yep you must be right..I tried creating my username...su'ed and it won't let me access my documents folder...dang it...
[12:37] <GTroy> Guydebord2: do you know if you have the .inf driver?
[12:38] <guydebord2> The thing is the wireless connection already has been set up and works at a freinds house
[12:38] <TROGDOR42> That's odd
[12:38] <Moco> How do you check pms?
[12:38] <guydebord2> I just want to configure it to my own IP
[12:38] <Moco> Pm's
[12:38] <Moco> Ahh, nvm..
[12:38] <GTroy> guydebord2: you've used wireless at home right?
[12:39] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, can you cd to your hfs partition and ls?
[12:39] <guydebord2> yes
[12:39] <mjk64> FSCKing Ubuntu installer ... I guess the Debian installer wouldn't let me re-configure already configured items, either ... So I have to repeat the whole Ubuntu installation again tomorrow. :-(  Anyway, thanks all for your help!
[12:39] <GTroy> guy: can you tail /var/log/syslog?
[12:40] <kkko> how do i join the bug-report channel?
[12:40] <TROGDOR42> i believe it's /join #ubuntu-bugs
[12:40] <kkko> thanks!
[12:41] <guydebord2> no permission denied. Have to be in root no?
[12:41] <GTroy> yeah
[12:43] <guydebord2> Gtroy command not found after sudo
[12:43] <GTroy> hmmm
[12:44] <Zedugh> Zugwrack? (as root) cd to your hfs documents folder and ls -ln
[12:44] <GTroy> have you modrpobed ndiswrapper?
[12:44] <GTroy> I have to every time I boot up
[12:44] <GTroy> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:44] <guydebord2> what
[12:44] <GTroy> yep
[12:44] <guydebord2> whats modprobe commmand
[12:45] <thom__> does ubuntu use alsa?
[12:45] <GTroy> loads ndiswrapper
[12:45] <GTroy> i think
[12:45] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Sorry..yes I can get there and see everything...I just don't have access to /Users/<myusername>/Documents
[12:45] <GTroy> can't use ndiswrapper without it
[12:45] <thom__> how do i restart or reconfigure sound
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> thom__,  yes.
[12:45] <gimmulf> What should i do to fix the bug that the menu doesnt get any software on it in fluxbox?
[12:45] <thom__> i tried alsaconf
[12:45] <thom__> or is it alsaconfig
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> - /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:46] <thom__> trouble is mt game sound went off on bzflag
[12:46] <thom__> ok
[12:46] <tommy> if i recall correctly, i had to compile from source to get alsaconf on ubuntu
[12:46] <thom__> usually i have to restart it
[12:46] <GTroy> guydebord2: you'll have to activate your connection too
[12:46] <nomed> hi all
[12:46] <thom__> thanks doc
[12:46] <guydebord2> ok
[12:46] <nomed> how can i customize the usplash image?
[12:46] <Moco> Thanks so much. It works!
[12:47] <nomed> i tried following the infos on the wiki ..
[12:47] <Moco> @ ubotu & nalioth
[12:47] <nomed> but it seems the image need to be on a particular format i can't fugure out
[12:47] <kkko> has anyone managed to play embedded media, and if so, what did you use?
[12:47] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, if you sudo ls -ln, the 2nd and 3rd columns will be the numerical ids of the owning user and group, you need to have/create a user and group with those specific numerical ids on you ubuntu system and su to that user
[12:47] <gimmulf> I just started fluxbox but theres no items on the menu?
[12:47] <thom__> Dr_Willis: that dont work,
[12:47] <nomed> 16 color PNG ... and i have such image but it doesn't work
[12:48] <thom__> Dr_Willis: says restart method is depreciated
[12:48] <Sparky_> Hello everyone
[12:48] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Ok thanks for the patience...I am just learning :-O
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> try stoping it and then starting it. :P
[12:48] <thom__> some things seem more difficult in ubuntu
[12:48] <thom__> ok
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> or just reboot. :P thats the standard 'windows' answer.
[12:49] <gimmulf> I just started fluxbox but theres no items on the menu? someone know what to do?
[12:49] <TROGDOR42> Ugh
[12:49] <thom__> Dr_Willis: says use alsa-utils initscript, so ill try that
[12:49] <Sparky_> Anyone have any experience with HP Laserjet 1000 printers and Kubuntu 5.10??
[12:49] <kkko> hello?
[12:49] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, np, if you use the gui user admin tool, the advanced tab lets you specify the numerical ids you want (if not already in use)
[12:49] <TROGDOR42> By the way windows haters spell it "Windoze"
[12:49] <TROGDOR42> ;)
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Winedos
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:50] <TROGDOR42> lol
[12:50] <Sparky_> Trog: but what if you're 'windows tolerant'? LOL
[12:50] <kkko> microsoft windows (tm)
[12:50] <GTroy> guydebord2: tell me if it works :P
[12:50] <guydebord2> tried modprobe saw nothing. wireless still not working
[12:50] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Yep up on that..I saw when I created the username Ubuntu defaults to 1001 whereas some Linux systems default to 500 or 501...but I was able to get the uid now..so I will be able to get access....yeah yeah
[12:50] <TROGDOR42> Well...
[12:50] <thom__> i still cant restart sound
[12:50] <TROGDOR42> You spell it however the hell you want
[12:51] <Weng> Windows, Linux, BSD, they're all the same damn crap. The difference is in the level of support and the pricetag.
[12:51] <thom__> is restarting sound disabled or something
[12:51] <Sparky_> trogdor, yup
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> WIndows has support?
[12:51] <tommy> sudo killall alsa
[12:51] <tommy> try that
[12:51] <thom__> ok
[12:51] <TROGDOR42> I am somewhat tolerant, meaning i'll play counterstrike in windows
[12:51] <Sparky_>  windows=high price, higher price for support...
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> amazing how little support ive ever gotten from the 'official' support stuff from  the companies  :P
[12:52] <Stormx2> I GOT MY UBUNTU CDS TODAY :D
[12:52] <thom__> tommy: ok so i kill it, says no process killed
[12:52] <Sparky_> plays 'Renegade Paintball' in windows and uses his work e-mail and the help-ticket system, since they're all active X based and Mozilla/Firefox or Konqueror won't run them..
[12:52] <TROGDOR42> Yeah, ship it is amazing, eh?
[12:52] <tommy> then its not running
[12:52] <guydebord2> im still here though
[12:52] <tommy> just type
[12:52] <tommy> alsa
[12:52] <Weng> Heh, I always find it amusing how much stuff I've had to learn about Linux/BSD/whatever over the years by sitting there screaming at my workstation
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> #1 answer "Try some random reinstall/twiddle, and hope it works"
[12:52] <tommy> that should start it
[12:52] <Weng> because something wouldn't work quite right
[12:52] <gimmulf> I just started fluxbox but theres no items on the menu? someone know what to do? how do i get fluxbox reading my config again from terminal.
[12:52] <GTroy> no solution yet eh?
[12:52] <thom__> alsa command not found
[12:53] <Weng> Windows, shit tends to either work right or not work at all. Linux/BSD, it'll KIND OF WORK
[12:53] <Weng> which is more of a bitch than not working at all.
[12:53] <thom__> tommy: maybe its not using alsa
[12:53] <Zedugh> thom_, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[12:53] <thom__> k
[12:53] <tommy> hmm, and /etc/init.d/alsa start didnt work either?
[12:54] <niterider> hello
[12:54] <navarone> gimmulf> try  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87351
[12:54] <tommy> oh beat me to it
[12:54] <guydebord2> Does anyone know what the WEP key is in Network Settings, Wireless interface properties
[12:54] <thom__>  Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead.
[12:54] <thom__>  * Setting up ALSA...
[12:54] <niterider> is there a working version of skype for breezy
[12:54] <apokryphos> !skype
[12:54] <ubotu> well, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:54] <thom__> i guess it worked
[12:54] <niterider> k
[12:56] <thom__> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[12:56] <thom__>  works, thanks now i got game sound
[12:56] <Sparky_> anyone have any hints on how to get a lj1000 working?
[12:56] <gimmulf> could you give me that ubuntuforums url again please about the fluxbox stuff
[12:56] <navarone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87351
[12:57] <Ophiocus> how can i resize a partition before installing ubuntu?
[12:57] <TROGDOR42> Knoppix
[12:57] <rixth> Does totem-xine not exist anymore?!
[12:57] <Sparky_> Ophiocus, use FIPS.
[12:57] <GTroy> guydebord2: it's best to echo it to /etc/network/interfaces
[12:57] <syngin_jkh> wireless support anyone or can someone can tell me if the latest ubuntu supports dell d610 wirless drivers
[12:57] <rixth> Ophiocus, use the partitioner on the Ubuntu CD...
[12:58] <Ophiocus> can i resize without loosing data?
[12:58] <Zedugh> Ophiocus, backup data first, just in case
[12:58] <rixth> Ophiocus, you can. But there are no guarantees it will work.
[12:58] <rixth> I would not risk it.
[12:58] <TROGDOR42> I made that mistake once
[12:59] <TROGDOR42> That's the kind of mistake you only make once.
[12:59] <Zedugh> i've resized fat32 down ( after defrag ) successfully, but wouldn't w/o backup, or on a critical system
[12:59] <Administrador_> thanks gTroy. I think Ill give up for now.  Hasta luego
[12:59] <mwe> real men don't do backups. they cry when they loose everything :)
[01:00] <SPCcrow> Is there an easy way to setup mod_php using Ubuntu repos?
[01:00] <tommy> Is there anyway i can configure gnome-power-manager to read the time remaining on my battery?
[01:00] <tommy> cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state returns: "present rate:      unknown"  which i assume is the problem
[01:00] <kent> Is there an easy way to make a newly added iptables rule   to be activated upon next boot?
[01:01] <Stormx2> Guys, how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[01:01] <TROGDOR42> Oooh-Boon-Too
[01:01] <nalioth> kent: once you save them, the iptables are saved until you change them
[01:01] <TROGDOR42> Emphasis on boon
[01:01] <SPCcrow> oo- boon- too
[01:01] <Stormx2> I've always pronouced it You-Bunt-Ooh
[01:01] <Stormx2> sure showed me.
[01:01] <nasimuto> What happens if i remove all things Gnome under synaptics package manager (i have fluxbox) ?
[01:02] <nasimuto> it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop aswell
[01:02] <rixth> nasimuto, it is just a metapackage
[01:02] <kent> nalioth, what do you meen with once I save them?  Will it be activated on next boot if I run "sudo iptables-save" now?
[01:02] <dooglus> /bnt/
[01:02] <rixth> nasimuto, it won't actaully remove the dekstop
[01:02] <tommy> ubuntu-desktop is fine the remove
[01:02] <nasimuto> cool
[01:02] <nasimuto> thanks
[01:02] <tommy> to remove*
[01:02] <nalioth> kent: once you configure and save your iptables. they'll be as you left them until you change them again. in 5 minutes or 5 years
[01:02] <TROGDOR42> There's a faq thing on the Ubuntu support that says how to pronounce it
[01:03] <tommy> for it being ubuntu bug day, #ubuntu-bugs sure is dead
[01:03] <faust> Found what might be an annoyance to many..
[01:03] <Agamotto> faust:  do tell
[01:03] <dooglus> TROGDOR42: URL?
[01:03] <slew> hi. i just got a used computer and it seems to have two bioses. one that came with the mobo and another that pops up during the boot process. how do i remove this second bios?
[01:03] <faust> It seems dhcpcd isn't in the default 5.10 install, yet the boot process needs it.
[01:04] <faust> After booting, I've had to run dhclient manually after I reinstalled. I installed dhcpcd, and everything suddenly works.
[01:04] <TROGDOR42> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation/view?searchterm=
[01:04] <kent> nalioth, still, I dont understand if you meen it will be activated upon next boot.  Its my desktop and time to time I shut it down and dont want to reload them every time.
[01:04] <nalioth> kent: it will be the way you save it forever. 10,000 reboots from now, if you havent changed it, it will be the same
[01:05] <kent> nalioth, great! Thanks.
[01:05] <moshe> does rhthymbox still choke on large collections?
[01:05] <slew> its that 10,001 boot that ya gotta look out for =] 
[01:05] <abeck> I want to leave my ubuntu computer on without a mouse or a monitor, but I can't seem to get the remote vnc to work unless I am logged in.
[01:05] <abeck> What's up with that?
[01:05] <Zedugh> slew, some video cards and some scsi adapters (and other stuff) have their own bios. You probably don't want to remove it (and can't), unless you remove the device.
[01:05] <slew> Zedugh, seems though that an os cant see a harddrive
[01:05] <slew> when ubuntu is installed
[01:05] <Sparky_> btw..anyone know the Atlanta/Detroit score?
[01:06] <TROGDOR42> Sparky, let me introduce you to my friend.  His name is google.  ;)
[01:06] <Zedugh> slew, which os can't see which harddrive?
[01:06] <abeck> Is any one familiar with VNC?
[01:06] <Sparky_> trog, I was testing to see if anyone in the room was listening.I've asked a question about printing several times..
[01:07] <abeck> I guess I will try the wiki
[01:07] <TROGDOR42> Printing?
[01:07] <Sparky_> abeck depends on what you mean about ' know anything about vnc'
[01:07] <slew> Zedugh, this computer is prolly going to be my mothers machine. im trying to install winxp on it for her. it gets thru the preinstall but when its time to select a partion it says no hard drive is installed
[01:07] <slew> even the mobo bios says theres no harddrive
[01:07] <Sparky_> trogdor, specifically HP LJ 1000..
[01:07] <TROGDOR42> I have an HP Deskjet 5150 and it works fine under Linux
[01:07] <slew> so im thinking theres something on the mbr, although grub is loaded but it never asked me where i wanted to load it.
[01:08] <rixth> Does totem-xine not exist anymore?! How can I get totem that does not use gstreamer?
[01:08] <Sparky_> trogdor, I have a LJ 1000, and no matter what I do, I've been uble to get it to work--I even tried loading the firmware to the printer.
[01:08] <Ophiocus> ok so am gonna do this, start installation and then use fips?
[01:08] <dura> Is anyone having trouble using any of the community-based repositories?
[01:09] <Sparky_> dura, some problems, yes..had to try installs 2-3 different times today.
[01:09] <dura> I'm having trouble on both x86 and x86_64.
[01:09] <TROGDOR42> Hmm...
[01:09] <dura> I'm just trying to update...
[01:09] <dura> Do apt and the update manager use different sources.list files?
[01:09] <Red-Sox> who can help me w/ gmail FS?
[01:09] <dooglus> abeck: I'm familiar with VNC
[01:10] <dura> Red-Sox, No one can until you ask a question abou tit...
[01:10] <dura> about it heh
[01:10] <Sparky_> hm..just did an update..no problems..
[01:10] <Zedugh> slew, install winxp before ubuntu, not sure how you use less than the full disk (never installed xp), but i know in the past i could with 98. winxp almost certainly wont like a drive partitioned by other os
[01:10] <TROGDOR42> lol you said tit :O
[01:10] <Sparky_> Redsox: what do you need to know?
[01:10] <Red-Sox> okay, well, how do you, use set, up mount gmail fs
[01:10] <dura> Zedugh, Actually, it doesn't matter much as long as it's a FAT32 or NTFS partition.
[01:10] <dooglus> Red-Sox: what's 'set'?
[01:11] <Red-Sox> dooglus: set it up
[01:11] <Sparky_> zedugh, it will ask you how big of a partition you want to use.
[01:11] <dooglus> Red-Sox: set what up?
[01:11] <Red-Sox> dooglus: gmail fs
[01:11] <Sparky_> Redsox: what mail reader?
[01:11] <dura> so, does the update manager use a different sources.lost then apt does?
[01:11] <TROGDOR42> What is this gmail fs you speak of...?
[01:11] <dura> It allows you to mount a gmail email account.
[01:11] <dooglus> dura: it uses the same one
[01:11] <dura> I thought google stopped that
[01:11] <dooglus> Red-Sox: I tried it.  It's very slow.
[01:12] <dura> dooglus, Alright. Because when I do apt-get update I see alot more sources then I have enabled.
[01:12] <zzer> who may helpme to setup my cloak?
[01:12] <TROGDOR42> Why don't you just use Thunderbird?
[01:12] <griffin_> hello, anyone know if the ATI Rage is older or newer that the Radeon 8500?
[01:12] <dura> Anyone know when the ATi AMD64 drivers will be out for 5.10 ?
[01:12] <dooglus> dura: I don't think you do.  apt-get update updates all the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and no more
[01:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to ubuntu@brokenladder.com ?
[01:13] <Red-Sox> dooglus: i dont care how slow it is, i only have 1.6 gb of space left
[01:13] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: you can do that yourself:  "cat /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us | mail ubuntu@brokenladder.com"
[01:13] <dura> dooglus, Right... so wouldn't those same sources show up in the prefs. for the update manager? I have 4 sources uncommented in sources.list, but when I do apt-get update I see it hit about 15.
[01:13] <dooglus> Red-Sox: burn some CDs or DVDs
[01:13] <Red-Sox> dooglus: good idea
[01:14] <Zedugh> dura, i don't remember which, but in the docs for fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, there is some info about the format of the partition table (and zeroing some bytes?), that is done differently than dos fdisk, and dos/win will not like the resulting partition table. So a disk can be partitioned to have a fat partition, and still not be usable by dos/win. BTW, slew, the fat (oh ntfs) partition needs to be 1st
[01:14] <dooglus> dura: you'll see 'security', 'updates' and base for each repo
[01:14] <dlfg> griffin: if i recall correctly the rage 128 came out before 8500
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: well.... i dont know of what to burn
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: its filled up with programs
[01:14] <dooglus> Red-Sox: burn the porn
[01:14] <dura> Zedugh, Interesting...
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: im 12
[01:14] <rubem> Hi there...
[01:14] <dooglus> Red-Sox: in that case delete it before your Mum finds it
[01:14] <dura> dooglus, Yeah I do. But all the community maintained sources are broken.
[01:14] <dura> ;|
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: i dont have any
[01:15] <Sparky_> trogdor, because  I need the calendar function in kmail. Thunderbird I use to read my broadband ISP mail.
[01:15] <dura> I can't even install mp3info so I can use mp32ogg
[01:15] <rubem> I've downloaded the jdk via apt-get, how do I configure the JAVA_HOME?
[01:15] <abeck> abeck slaps his beek and shleeeps out of the room.
[01:15] <TROGDOR42> Ah
[01:15] <dooglus> Red-Sox: it's not a good idea to move programs to a gmail file system
[01:15] <dooglus> Red-Sox: you should leave files which apt-get installed where they are.
[01:15] <Agamotto> ouch
[01:16] <Agamotto> Why would someone use Gmail to hold files????
[01:16] <dura> Also, the wiki page for the AMD64 driver howto says at the top that they are available for 5.10, and then about 4 lines dows it says they aren't lol.
[01:16] <dooglus> dura: paste your sources.list and the output of apt-get update to the pastebin.
[01:16] <Red-Sox> dooglus: okay
[01:16] <rubem> ??????
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> guys, play this url in your gmplayer or gxine http://libsyn.com/media/frederator/Channel_Frederator_5.m4v
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's awesome!
[01:16] <slew> Zedugh, thanks. im not planning on keeping ubuntu on this drive, i just wanted to be sure the drive would work. =] 
[01:16] <dura> dooglus, How do I do that? /tell pastebin foo ?
[01:16] <rixth> Once again, does totem-xine not exist anymore?! How can I get totem that does not use gstreamer?
[01:16] <Zedugh> slew, dura: I don't know for a fact how the ubuntu-installer-partitioner handles it, it might work, but it might not
[01:17] <Agamotto> ritxth:  There is a package for it in synaptic
[01:17] <dura> Zedugh, I usually boot a Mandrake CD to partition/resize NTFS.
[01:17] <slew> Zedugh, well i know ubuntu installs fine.
[01:17] <Agamotto> Mandrake discs are usually very good for that, yes
[01:17] <dura> It's just handy...
[01:17] <rcmiv> how do I disable "synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org.." boot option?
[01:17] <slew> its just the inferiour product that is microsoft cannot
[01:17] <dura> Especialy when all you have is a stupid restore CD for windows.
[01:17] <slew> see the drive =] 
[01:18] <Agamotto> rcmiv:  Turn off the time service
[01:18] <dura> But now I don't bother with windows so :)
[01:18] <dura> dooglus, How do I send stuff to the pastebin?
[01:18] <dooglus> dura
[01:18] <dooglus> !paste
[01:18] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:18] <dura> Ahh ok
[01:18] <dura> Let me do that brb
[01:18] <rcmiv> Agamotto: thank you
[01:18] <Sparky_> bbiab
[01:18] <Sparky_> exit
[01:19] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: it's very reminscent of the triplets of belleville
[01:19] <ricky_ds> Hi, how can I install gnucash on ubuntu?
[01:19] <Zedugh> slew, dura: ya, i've used knoppix and some other liveCDs to resize, and slew, i guess it doesn't matter if you're not keeping ubuntu on the system, but if you install ubuntu (or any linux) first, then the win install will clobber the mbr, and you'll have to reinstall grub/lilo.
[01:19] <dooglus> ricky_ds: "sudo apt-get install gnucash"
[01:19] <dura> dooglus, I'll paste just the erros from apt-get update.
[01:19] <slew> Zedugh, yes, i know this. =] 
[01:19] <ricky_ds> dooglus, why doesn't it appear in the software to install? Note that I've activated the Universe repository
[01:20] <dura> !paste Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:20] <dura> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:20] <dura> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <dura> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:20] <ubotu> dura: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:20] <dura> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:20] <dura> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:20] <dura> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:20] <Red-Sox> is there a psp video converter for linux?
[01:20] <rixth> Red-Sox, mencoder would be your best bet
[01:20] <apokryphos> dura: don't paste in here please
[01:20] <dura> I didn't try to...
[01:20] <Red-Sox> rixth: thank you
[01:20] <dura> sorry about that
[01:21] <dura> I was trying to use pastebin
[01:21] <Zedugh> dura, this happened to me earlier today, waited awhile (10-15 min) tried again, no problems
[01:21] <dura> dooglus, PM me and I'll paste it there.
[01:21] <rixth> apokryphos, he doesn't know what a pastebin is
[01:21] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[01:21] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:21] <dooglus> dura: type !paste and follow what ubotu tells you
[01:21] <dura> Zedugh, This has been happening since yesterday morning.
[01:21] <dura> !paste
[01:21] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:21] <dura> heh
[01:21] <rixth> apokryphos, are you a MOTU?
[01:21] <dura> If it worked I could
[01:22] <dura> ! paste
[01:22] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:22] <apokryphos> rixth: nope
[01:22] <dooglus> dura: it works
[01:22] <nalioth> dura: please stop that
[01:22] <rixth> apokryphos, okay- thanks. I've been googling & I can't find any trace of where totem-xine has been removed.
[01:22] <dura> I'll spam it in #flood
[01:22] <apokryphos> rixth: sorry?
[01:22] <ricardo> hi am new in ubuntu
[01:22] <Red-Sox> ricardo: welcome
[01:22] <ompaul> dura, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:22] <ricardo> how i configure my monito??
[01:22] <rixth> apokryphos, just interesting- sure I can find it somewhere.
[01:23] <Red-Sox> ricardo: are you in gnome?
[01:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ricardo about fixres
[01:23] <apokryphos> rixth: you're looking for totem-xine?
[01:23] <ricardo> yes
[01:23] <rixth> ricardo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:23] <apokryphos> ricardo: what's wrong with the one in the repos?
[01:23] <rixth> apokryphos, yeah. It is no longer in apt.
[01:23] <ricardo> whe i do taht i have problems to enter to the grphic form
[01:23] <apokryphos> !info totem-xine
[01:23] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 776 kB, Installed size: 4492 kB
[01:23] <apokryphos> rixth: sure it is
[01:24] <ricardo> i trie whit xorg but is the same
[01:24] <rubem> I've downloaded the jdk via apt-get, how do I configure the JAVA_HOME?????
[01:24] <rixth> At thats it. I just reinstalled & forgot to update my sources.list
[01:25] <dura> dooglus, Do I enter my name in (at pastebin) or yours?
[01:25] <dura> Not much for instructions there heh
[01:25] <dura> At paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:26] <sklav> hey anybody else experience issue with the latest kernel not being installed?
[01:26] <dura> And I've never seen/heard of pastebin before either.
[01:26] <Zedugh> dura, what IRC client r u using?
[01:27] <dura> Xchat
[01:27] <sklav> gamata
[01:27] <sklav> oops wrong window
[01:27] <ricardo> how i configure my monito??
[01:27] <Zedugh> brb in xchat
[01:27] <ricardo> i have a lot of problemes
[01:28] <dura> ricardo, Try X -configure to autoconfig xorg.
[01:28] <ricardo> i try but
[01:28] <ricardo> when i try to enter to the graphic mode i have an error
[01:28] <dura> ricardo, If it doesn't work, use a text editor to edit xorg.conf either in roots /home or in /etc/X11/
[01:28] <sklav> what type of vidcard?
[01:28] <ricardo> i only can enter whit 640 x 480
[01:28] <dura> ricardo, Google for the specs on your monitor.
[01:29] <ricardo> is a IBM E74
[01:29] <dura> ricardo, Email me your corg.conf file and I'll change it for you.
[01:29] <ricardo> GARPCHI CARD INTEL
[01:29] <sklav> its his videocard the issue
[01:29] <dura> xorg.conf*
[01:29] <ioboss> waht means ioboss@ioboss-machine:/usr/src$ sudo make xconfig
[01:29] <ioboss> make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'.  Stop.
[01:29] <sklav> intergrated?
[01:29] <dura> Zedugh, back?
[01:29] <ioboss> ioboss@ioboss-machine:/usr/src$ sudo make menuconfig
[01:29] <ioboss> make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop.
[01:29] <ioboss> :|
[01:29] <Zedugh> yub
[01:29] <Zedugh> oops, yup
[01:29] <Ophiocus> during installation,. if i tell the formater to resize
[01:29] <ricardo> DURA , WHAT IS YOR EMAIL???
[01:29] <dura> Zedugh, I pointed firefox to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:30] <dura> ricardo, duralinux at gmail dot com
[01:30] <sklav> dura, is your vidcard intergrated?
[01:30] <dura> sklav, No... it's a Radeon 9600 Pro
[01:30] <dura> Mobile
[01:30] <sklav> ah ok
[01:30] <dura> I had the ATi drivers working great in Gentoo
[01:30] <Ophiocus> during installation,. if i tell the formater to resize will i loose any data on the resized partition?
[01:30] <dura> AMD64 Gentoo that is.
[01:30] <dura> Ophiocus, Possibly...
[01:30] <sklav> did you install unsopported linux modules?
[01:31] <Zedugh> dura, i've only viewed pastes, not yet pasted, following along to learn
[01:31] <sklav> i had similar issue with my nvidia
[01:31] <ricardo> DURA ACEPT
[01:31] <dura> Zedugh, Hehe alright. Do I enter my name in that box at the top?
[01:31] <dura> ricardo, Can't... not registerd.
[01:31] <rubem> I've downloaded the jdk via apt-get, how do I configure the JAVA_HOME??????
[01:31] <sklav> ok i be back i have to go shovel snow
[01:31] <Zedugh> dura, i dont know
[01:31] <Zedugh> !pastebin
[01:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:31] <nalioth> ricardo: you cannot send priv msgs on this network unless you register your nick
[01:31] <sklav> set JAVA_HOME="/your/path/to/java"
[01:31] <dura> Zedugh, Got an email address I can send the output to?
[01:32] <sklav> if that works
[01:32] <ricardo> OHHHH
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dura about register
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ricardo about register
[01:32] <sklav> add it to your .bashrc
[01:32] <ricardo> what was yor email?
[01:32] <rubem> sklav: if I do this, it will not be persistent
[01:32] <dura> I don't want to register.
[01:32] <sklav> i know
[01:32] <rubem> sklav: and where the apt-get installs the JDK?
[01:32] <dura> ricardo, duralinux at gmail dot come
[01:32] <sklav> usually /usr/java if not mistaken
[01:33] <sklav> but you could do a search
[01:33] <dura> Zedugh, Guess not lol
[01:33] <Zedugh> dura, what is your question?
[01:33] <rubem> sklav: no...
[01:33] <rubem> sklav: not in /usr/java
[01:34] <dura> Zedugh, I'm having trouble with the community maintained sources. It's posted on paste.ubuntulinux.nl search for dura. I pasted it under that ID.
[01:34] <sklav> do a whereis java on a command line
[01:34] <rubem> sklav: found it! /ust/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/
[01:34] <sklav> or locate java
[01:34] <dura> I pasted the output of apt-get update and also sources.list.
[01:34] <sklav> oops
[01:34] <sklav> forgot the lib
[01:34] <rubem> forget?
[01:34] <sklav> i type /usr/java
[01:34] <ricardo> ok i seend the mail
[01:35] <sklav> i meant /usr/lib/java
[01:35] <rubem> sklav: are you sure???
[01:35] <sklav> yeah
[01:35] <sklav> im looking at it now
[01:35] <Zedugh> dura, what were you doing to get this?
[01:35] <rubem> sklav: it is the same structure of the normal jdk instalation
[01:35] <dura> Zedugh, I added some sources that were listed in the preferences of the update manager, and I typed sudo apt-get update is all.
[01:35] <sklav> yeah like on redhat and other linux's
[01:36] <dura> They were working until Tuesday.
[01:36] <Zedugh> dura, ok hold on
[01:36] <dura> Zedugh, Alright
[01:36] <rubem> sklav: where do i configure the envorioment variables?
[01:36] <dura> ricardo, Are you sending me that file?
[01:36] <dooglus> dura: leave the name blank if you like
[01:36] <ricardo> yes
[01:36] <sklav> add it to your .bashrc
[01:36] <Ophiocus> posibly aint good enough, i need certainty
[01:36] <dura> dooglus, I already pasted it. I put dura in the name box.
[01:36] <rubem> sklav: at home?
[01:37] <sklav> yes
[01:37] <Hobbsee> dura: find the link, and paste it in here...
[01:37] <sklav> or in the one in /etc for global
[01:37] <dura> Ophiocus, Then go to http://www.google.com/linux and look for yourself.
[01:37] <dura> Hobbsee, Alright
[01:37] <dura> brb
[01:37] <dooglus> dura: I missed that.  I was watching irrelevant crappy cartoons for some reason
[01:37] <dura> dooglus, lol
[01:37] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: why did I just watch those stupid cartoons?
[01:37] <jack-> anyone ever tried to get ubuntu running under virtual pc on a mac?
[01:37] <dura> Hobbsee, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5015
[01:37] <dima202> Hello, has anyone here successfuly installed http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[01:37] <dima202> ?
[01:38] <dura> jack-, Not on a Mac... works with VMWare though.
[01:38] <rcmiv> just a note - managing services and boot options is made even easier using BUM - get with synaptic
[01:38] <jack-> dura: i know..but vpc seems to be tricky :~
[01:38] <dooglus> dura: looks like you've got a corrupted release file in your apt cache
[01:38] <dima202> It is a theme like osx for gnome : MacOS-X Aqua Theme
[01:38] <dura> dooglus, Is that what's causing the md5sum error?
[01:39] <dooglus> dura: does "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" fix it?
[01:39] <dura> dooglus, Let me try it and see
[01:39] <dooglus> !md5err
[01:39] <ubotu> dooglus: I give up, what is it?
[01:39] <dooglus> what was the bot's trigger for this one?
[01:39] <dima202> Does anyone here use a nice clone of max osx aqua theme?
[01:39] <jack-> !virtualpc
[01:39] <ubotu> jack-: Are you smoking crack?
[01:40] <jack-> ubotu: who the fuck told you?
[01:40] <ubotu> jack-: Are you smoking crack?
[01:40] <jack-> :<
[01:40] <nasimuto> what would be a good file manager for fluxbox ?
[01:40] <ricardo> dura you have the file???
[01:40] <dooglus> nasimuto: rox?
[01:40] <dura> dooglus, No... now I have alot more erros and output lol
[01:40] <jack-> nasimuto: use worker
[01:40] <dura> ricardo, Let me go check
[01:40] <dooglus> dura: paste your sources.list
[01:40] <nalioth> jack-: let us be respectful in here
[01:40] <nasimuto> thanks
[01:40] <dura> dooglus, on the site?
[01:40] <dooglus> dura: yes
[01:41] <dura> ok
[01:41] <dima202> If anyone here uses a MACOSX AQUA THEME, please tell me where I can download a working one. I tried this one http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548  but it doesn't work like pictured
[01:41] <dura> hang on
[01:41] <jack-> nalioth: smoking crack is disgusting, criminalized everywhere, and definitely not nice
[01:41] <Zedugh> dooglus, he did: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5015
[01:41] <cupp221> how do you set your root password (or change to root) in ubuntu?  i cant access my root account
[01:41] <nalioth> dima202: that is fake. it doesnt work.
[01:41] <Em`Zee> Does anyone know how I can make the command "tail -f" beep every time a new line is written to the target file?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> !tell cupp221 about root
[01:41] <nasimuto> cupp221: sudo passwd
[01:41] <jack-> get your bot to excuse and i'll be glad to do the same :p
[01:41] <dima202> nalioth, As I suspected ! :( Why is it still up there??? :(((
[01:41] <nalioth> jack-: yes, but some of dont appreciate the vulgarities
[01:41] <jack-> ;)
[01:41] <nalioth> dima202: that'd be up to the gnome-look.org folks
[01:41] <dima202> nalioth, The icons works though
[01:42] <Zedugh> dura, the first 2 lines of your paste say 'Failed to fetch ....', but those files are there and I can get them
[01:42] <Sparky_> re all..
[01:42] <jack-> anyway nalioth, do you have any clue about ubuntu on virtualpc?
[01:42] <jack-> so weird..
[01:42] <nalioth> jack-: the bot does not curse or use vulgarities
[01:42] <dooglus> dura: last I heard, the us. mirror was fsck'ed.  remove the 'us.' from sources.list
[01:42] <nalioth> jack-: it should run just fine on VPC
[01:42] <dura> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5016
[01:42] <jack-> fails at partitioning/mounting / as /target..
[01:42] <jack-> really wack
[01:43] <dooglus> dura: "sudo sed -i sed 's/us[.] //g'
[01:43] <Em`Zee> Does anyone know how I can make the command "tail -f" beep every time a new line is written to the target file?
[01:43] <cupp221> how can you set permissions if root is disabled in ubuntu?
[01:43] <jack-> no idea how i could fix that :~
[01:43] <Zedugh> dura, like dooglus said, the us mirror gave me errors earlier today, but its working for me now
[01:43] <Sparky_> cupp sudo
[01:43] <dima202> How can I delete themes I created in "themes"????
[01:43] <dura> Zedugh, Well they aren't for me... and haven't been since Tuesday.
[01:43] <Lirx> #ubuntu
[01:43] <strokey> the force was with me
[01:43] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: question is Breezy still requiring extra files to be installed for rhythmbox to play internet mp3 streams? If so what is the link?
[01:44] <Zedugh> dura, well do as dooglus suggests...
[01:44] <strokey> But now i have another problem, anyone here experianced with linux can pm me? :D
[01:44] <dooglus> Em`Zee: tail -f <whatever> | sed 's/^/^G/'  (where ^G is a control G character)
[01:45] <dooglus> strokey: you're asking in a linux channel if anyone's experienced with linux?
[01:45] <nasimuto> lol
[01:45] <strokey> there could be poeple like me, who arnt experianced
[01:45] <strokey> :D
[01:45] <Lirx> I need some help. I recently installed kubuntu on a pentium one laptop. It loads just fine, but when it gets to the desktop, the font and stuff kinda suck. I need to switch it to 1024x768, but the only choice on config is 800x600. Also, when i try to login to konsole, i can type in my username, but when it asks for the pw, i cant tye anything in..the keyboard doesnt work
[01:45] <Sanne> strokey, if you keep your problem in the channel, others could also benefit from a solution.
[01:45] <dooglus> strokey: there are hundreds of people here.  probably a few of them are 'experienced'.  what's up?
[01:45] <strokey> i just installed ubuntu
[01:46] <strokey> im not on ubuntu now as i have exactly the same problem as i useally have, but this time ive decided to fix it!
[01:46] <dooglus> strokey: that's not necessarily a problem...
[01:46] <nasimuto> Lirx: if shadow passwords are enabled then you cant see anything you type in the password field
[01:46] <Lirx> oh
[01:46] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:46] <Lirx> and how can i fix the graphics problem
[01:46] <Lirx> :/
[01:46] <fevoldj2> What is the command to load the php5 module for apache in Ubuntu?
[01:46] <thompa> my game sound shuts down and i have to rstart alsa
[01:46] <nasimuto> i have no idea
[01:46] <strokey> dooglus: can we pm? ;o
[01:46] <nasimuto> is there anything like msconfig for ubuntu ?
[01:46] <dooglus> nasimuto: I don't think shadow passwords means what you think it means
[01:47] <dooglus> strokey: a/s/l?
[01:47] <cupp221> im trying to set permissions for this file, but it says im not the owner... it belongs to root... so how can i set it so my user can access it?
[01:47] <Sanne> lol
[01:47] <strokey> depends what you are
[01:47] <strokey> !
[01:47] <nasimuto> i'd really like to scim my startup list
[01:47] <ubotu> strokey: No idea
[01:47] <nasimuto> my laptop boots 5 minutes !
[01:47] <strokey> o_O
[01:47] <ricardo> i posten my xorg in http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5017
[01:47] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Thanks..couldn't remember to save my woo hoo ya know? heh
[01:47] <Hobbsee> cupp221: chown
[01:47] <Sparky_> cupp sudo -s
[01:47] <Hobbsee> that too
[01:47] <Lirx> could someone help me with a screen config issue>
[01:47] <Lirx> ?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> !xfcg
[01:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Hobbsee
[01:47] <thompa> nasimuto: whats the laptop?
[01:48] <dooglus> cupp221: "sudo chmod" will let you set permissions.  "sudo chown" will let you change the ownership
[01:48] <Hobbsee> !tell Lirx about xcfg
[01:48] <Lirx> I wanna change it to 1024 x 768, but all that comes up on config is 800x600
[01:48] <Lirx> x--config?
[01:48] <Lirx> ;x
[01:48] <ricardo> taht is also my problem
[01:48] <Lirx> lol
[01:48] <thompa> nasimuto: maybe its slowing on finding a network
[01:48] <ricardo> try whit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:48] <nasimuto> thompa: no, its everything
[01:49] <nasimuto> it loads like 30-40 processes
[01:49] <xfree> if i want to install opera 8.5 above opera 8.0 what i have , how can i do that with dpkg ?
[01:49] <nasimuto> i was lazy, so i installed default ubuntu
[01:49] <cupp221> thx ill try that
[01:49] <arnducky> dooglus, and su will allow you to not have to type sudo again and again and again and...
[01:49] <Lirx> can someone tell me how to use 1024x768 display if all that shows up is 800x600 on options
[01:49] <dima202> I don't understand. I can't install mplayer on ununtu
[01:49] <Sanne> Lirx, might this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:49] <felix_> what UID should bve the main user ?
[01:49] <nasimuto> thompa: nasimuto: whats the laptop? <- HP Omnibook XE2, 600 Mhz, 64mb ram, 4mb vid
[01:49] <dima202>  first it doesn't like my gcc version so I put that ignore
[01:50] <dooglus> arnducky: 'su' only works if you have set a root password.  most people haven't
[01:50] <dima202> ANd then it failed to ./configure
[01:50] <gerard_21> hi
[01:50] <ricardo> dura my xorg is on http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5017
[01:50] <Zedugh> felix_: it will normally be 1000
[01:50] <dima202> Why doesn't mplayer like ubuntu????
[01:50] <felix_> ok
[01:50] <arnducky> dooglus, first thing I did post-install, but tell me why Ubuntu doesbn't at least give you the option?
[01:50] <thompa> nasimuto:  you might want to try a smaller distro for that
[01:50] <Lirx> to run commands on that page, saane, should i use konsole?
[01:51] <gerard_21> huh?
[01:51] <dura> I still get the MD5Sum mismatch error with the US sources.
[01:51] <thompa> nasimuto:  ram should be at least 128
[01:51] <dooglus> arnducky: it does.  "sudo passwd" lets you set the root password.
[01:51] <felix_> but then , why all my home dir is 755 and owned by root ? i cant do anything
[01:51] <Sanne> Lirx,  yes
[01:51] <dima202> Nope, ubuntu doesn't even have mplayer in package selection
[01:51] <Lirx> k
[01:51] <dima202> Even the non gui
[01:51] <dooglus> arnducky: there's no need to set it - sudo is enough.
[01:51] <nasimuto> thompa: no, i just need to delete the services, i dont need, from startup
[01:51] <Xen> in what ways is ubuntu superior to debian?  I'm currently using it but looking for something more whole out of the box.
[01:51] <gar-> Zedugh, at last i could get  the wireless up
[01:51] <arnducky> pheh  __ I hope you're not another Ubuntu developer...
[01:51] <dura> So, if I disable all those US sources, how the hell am I going to have any package choices to install from?
[01:52] <dura> Is there a list of apt sources somewhere?
[01:52] <nasimuto> Xen: ubuntu is more user friendly and has a better dev architecture and legal system or whatknot
[01:52] <arnducky> Not having a root password is just braindead
[01:52] <Lirx> Sanne, what do i type to get to the konsole
[01:52] <Lirx> thers like the shell
[01:52] <Lirx> and another one..
[01:52] <Zedugh> gar-, hoorah!!!
[01:52] <gar-> now time to upgrade
[01:52] <gar-> Zedugh,  im on X-chat
[01:52] <felix_> why all my home dir is 755 and owned by root ? i cant do anything
[01:52] <Sanne> Lirx, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:52] <Parkway> Anyone have a clue what this means?  Been trying to install a MUD client.  configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[01:52] <gar-> Zedugh,  you would know how easy wast to setting up the wireless
[01:53] <Zedugh> gar-:, yes
[01:53] <Kiseonik> Any way to install kubuntu/ubuntu on a loop-mounted filesystem?
[01:53] <thompa> nasimuto: your ram should be 128 min
[01:53] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: The only one it can't find is this one...I have multiverse enabled in synaptic ---> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[01:53] <gar-> Zedugh,  just a simple program
[01:53] <nasimuto> thompa: fluxbox currently runs without problems
[01:53] <dura> No one knows?
[01:53] <thompa> nasimuto: so its just gnome?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> !tell dura about repos
[01:54] <gar-> Zedugh,  now how do i upgrade to breezy
[01:54] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2breezy
[01:54] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:54] <nasimuto> thompa: yes, in gnome everything took 5 minutes to load and it was monsterlaggy
[01:54] <Xen> nasimuto, it still has all the nifty stuff that makes debian itself great doesn't it?
[01:54] <nasimuto> Xen: indeed
[01:54] <felix_> WH
[01:54] <dooglus> Parkway: you meed to install build-essential?
[01:54] <nasimuto> i was a debian user once
[01:54] <gar-> Hobbsee, thanks
[01:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus you didn't think those cartoons were good?
[01:54] <Lirx> how do i exit ubuntu kernal
[01:55] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I can'tremember
[01:55] <felix_> Awhat IS This ??      my 'home dir' is 'impossible to read'  and is -quite weirdly- having now a 311 perm
[01:55] <kiko> hey guys
[01:55] <thompa> nasimuto: i know it says 32m min, but i dont think you can run gnome on that fast enough
[01:55] <kiko> one question
[01:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to ubuntu@brokenladder.com ?
[01:55] <kiko> where do "ip route" commands go in ubuntu?
[01:55] <Zedugh> Zugwrack: i have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse in synaptic (and installed)
[01:55] <Parkway> dooglus: erm where's that?
[01:55] <nasimuto> thompa: thats ok, i like fluxmore much more than gnome anyways
[01:55] <dooglus> Parkway: use synaptic
[01:55] <Sparky_> tried the Gnome version of Ubuntu..found it too slow.. switched to Kubuntu for the superiour calendar in KContact and found that KDE was faster..
[01:55] <nasimuto> fluxbox even
[01:56] <Parkway> ok
[01:56] <Zedugh> gar-: what simple program?
[01:56] <dooglus> Parkway: system->synaptic
[01:56] <Parkway> thanks
[01:56] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: hmmm..when I did a search it acted like it couldn't find it....
[01:56] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, r u using the us repos? ie: us.archive...
[01:56] <thompa> nasimuto: recommended min for gnome  128 megabytes
[01:56] <thompa> 
[01:56] <thompa> 2 gigabytes
[01:56] <thompa> sorry
[01:57] <nasimuto> thompa: i have no need for resource hogging window systems
[01:57] <jack-> use fluxbox then
[01:57] <darksoul> what do they call it...cedga..
[01:57] <jack-> or xfce
[01:57] <Nino> hi all
[01:57] <Xen> nasimuto, what made you decide to switch?
[01:58] <darksoul> whats the website for cedga
[01:58] <Hobbsee> BROKEN_LADDER: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5020
[01:58] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[01:58] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[01:58] <jack-> !cedega
[01:58] <Zedugh> fluxbox or other boxen, or if you like start buttons icewm
[01:58] <darksoul> Xen: i switched since windows was being shit..
[01:58] <nasimuto> Xen: actually, i switched from Win 98SE to ubuntu on my laptop
[01:58] <Nino> would it be posssible to get some help with GCC??
[01:58] <Zugwrack> Zugwrack: I would presume
[01:58] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: I would presume
[01:58] <dima202> IS THERE a good MACOSX theme for Gnome?
[01:58] <Zugwrack> Let me look
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Nino: try in #GCC
[01:59] <Nino> when i try to make a file i get gcc 3.4: command not found
[01:59] <Xen> I just wish gaming was easier on linux.
[01:59] <jack-> dima202: if you want aqua looks, just install osx-x86 in a vm
[01:59] <nasimuto> Xen: a long time ago i was running on debian. But since i develop all my software for windows - i switched to XP Pro corp. Currently i have XP pro corp on my desktop and ubuntu+fluxbox on my laptop
[01:59] <jack-> heh
[01:59] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: yes that is the case
[01:59] <Xen> nasimuto, I know the feeling
[01:59] <dima202> jack-, can you please explaing? Where do I get osx-x86 and what is vm?
[01:59] <Zedugh> some people seem to have had problems with them today. your repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list (just FYI). you might try "sudo apt-get update" to re-sync your package info
[01:59] <Xen> .NET is difficult to use in any linux os
[01:59] <nasimuto> indeed
[02:00] <nasimuto> its crap
[02:00] <nasimuto> so i use wxwindows
[02:00] <felix_> i CAnnot acess my Home dir...please help ??
[02:00] <Nino> thanks Hoobsee ill try there :)
[02:00] <nasimuto> xen: im currently aiming toward multiplatform programming, so I'll probably switch fulltime to linux in 2008 or so
[02:00] <dooglus> felix_: what happens?
[02:00] <Zedugh> felix_, what do you mean your home directory is 755, do you mean the permissions, or the uid?
[02:00] <dooglus> felix_: "sudo chown $USER:$USER ~" will fix it
[02:01] <felix_> dooglus, i dont know ; its a fresh breezy install , my home dir is 311 , and has a 'red X' on it
[02:01] <jack-> dima202: from apple, for $$
[02:01] <jack-> a vm is a virtual machine
[02:01] <jack-> !vmware
[02:01] <ubotu> jack-: Are you on ritalin?
[02:01] <jack-> ubotu: Yes, what else
[02:01] <ubotu> I don't know, jack-
[02:01] <Xen> nasimuto, wxwindows?
[02:01] <jack-> ubotu: I know you don't know
[02:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jack-
[02:01] <Zedugh> felix_, do what dooglus said, and see...
[02:01] <dima202> jack-, no no no, I am looking for a theme.. .for gnome
[02:01] <nasimuto> Xen: its a GUI programming library for C++
[02:01] <Nino> i think theyre all asleep on GCC lol, im trying to install my wireless card if anyones willing to give a hand :)
[02:01] <nasimuto> Xen: www.wxwindows.org
[02:02] <dura> Where is a good place to find more sources to add to sources.list?
[02:02] <dura> For amd64...
[02:02] <nasimuto> btw, a friend of mine wants to know: How easy is it to install 32bit apps to 64bit ubuntu ?
[02:03] <felix_> Dooglus, it didnt change anything
[02:03] <dooglus> felix_: ls -ld ~
[02:03] <jack-> nasimuto: installing isnt the problem at all
[02:03] <nasimuto> nice
[02:04] <jack-> but your 64bit box will get frustrated and throw 32 bits in the bin
[02:04] <jack-> you dont want that right?
[02:04] <nasimuto> lol
[02:04] <jack-> ;)
[02:04] <felix_>  dooglus : drwxrwxrwx  15 felix felix 4096 2005-11-24 19:59 /home/felix
[02:04] <ricardo> dura are you there???
[02:04] <snowowl> Is limewire crashing for anyone with a fully updated 5.10
[02:04] <ricardo> you see my file?
[02:04] <dura> ricardo, Yeah. Looking at that now
[02:05] <ricardo> ok thaks
[02:05] <dooglus> felix_: that's owned by you.  what's the problem?
[02:05] <nasimuto> recommend some good file managers. im currently exploring rox
[02:05] <coz> I have video problem and would appreciate help with this
[02:05] <nasimuto> it must be a low-resource manager and windowslike
[02:05] <snowowl> coz - what the deal wit your prob
[02:05] <coz> I have an gforce fx 5200 pci not agp video card
[02:05] <gnomefreak> server was up for a little while today :(
[02:05] <Nino> is there anyother way to install my wireless card without using this GCC stuff [linux virgin] 
[02:05] <redguy> nasimuto: try gentoo
[02:06] <felix_> a close look at the home dir...it says that its owned by root, and 311  (a 'propriety' right click on the folder)
[02:06] <coz> But I can't figure out how to edit the xorg file
[02:06] <nasimuto> redguy: gentoo is a linux distro
[02:06] <Zedugh> gar-, what program?
[02:06] <coz> here is the file http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pY03sC20.html
[02:06] <redguy> nasimuto: gentoo is a file manager as well
[02:06] <nasimuto> wow
[02:06] <nasimuto> thx
[02:06] <snowowl> try this "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:07] <gar-> yeah upgrading now
[02:07] <snowowl> be careful coz
[02:07] <coz> I know how to get to the file I don't know what to put in the file
[02:07] <Zedugh> gentoo the distro and gentoo the file manager are not related
[02:07] <dooglus> felix_: "ls -ld ~" *is* a close look at your home directory - and it shows it's owned by you with 777 permissions.
[02:07] <nasimuto> gentoo is like worker, i'd like a more rox/explorer like interface
[02:07] <coz> thanks for th note of cuation but I have already broken this 5 times and recovered
[02:07] <coz> I need a real solution to this
[02:07] <felix_> dooglus http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5021
[02:07] <Xen> ubuntu uses x.org instead of xfree86?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> isnt rox a desktop envorernment?
[02:08] <Amaranth> yes
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Xen,  yes
[02:08] <snowowl> I really don't know the problem - but If you describe it i can tell you exactly what to put
[02:08] <redguy> Xen: nearly no distro uses xfree86 anymore
[02:08] <coz> I have tried the forumn pages and they all say about the same thing without any reference to the xorg editing
[02:08] <Xen> wow
[02:08] <coz> or very little about it
[02:08] <dooglus> felix_: that's not your home directory, that's /home
[02:08] <gnomefreak> coz,  its a grafical configure
[02:08] <Xen> I've typed nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 a million times on Debian 3.1 :S
[02:08] <felix_> dooglus, sorry, a missunderstandi9ng then..
[02:08] <redguy> hehe
[02:08] <Knowerrors> Im building a custom kernel using a different config from og Ubuntu, can anyone tell me what parts are needed in kernel config to support iptables?
[02:08] <coz> gnomefreak what does that mean exactly?
[02:08] <dooglus> felix_: fix that with: "sudo chmod 755 /home; sudo chown root:root /home"
[02:09] <felix_> thats directory, and it /home ..so..
[02:09] <redguy> you miss it? :-)
[02:09] <Xen> is x.org faster/more stable/more efficient or something?
[02:09] <mitja> Please help anyone. I rebooted from konsole and now I have only console, no KDE!
[02:09] <dooglus> felix_: but how did you fuck things up this badly in the first place?
[02:09] <Amaranth> Xen: It's like XFree86 but better in every way.
[02:09] <snowowl> be specific coz what is the problem
[02:09] <folki> hi all
[02:09] <pppoe_dude> is it safe to use my gpg keys on Psi?
[02:09] <felix_> dooglus, its a fresh install... didint do nothing special
[02:09] <felix_> its really weird
[02:09] <Sanne> nasimuto: you might like Xfe: http://freshmeat.net/projects/xfe/
[02:09] <Xen> cool
[02:09] <Amaranth> Xen: Seeing how it's a fork of XFree86 that actually has people working on it it'd have to be. :)
[02:09] <dooglus> felix_: really?  that is odd
[02:09] <redguy> Xen: AFAIK xfree86 pepole changed their licence
[02:09] <coz> Ok when the nvidia drivers are installed I cannot get into the system.
[02:09] <coz> I have to uninstall the drivers
[02:09] <gnomefreak> coz,  its not text it is grafical (colors) kinda spelled out for you but it would be a good idea to know your moniter,mouse,things like that including video card
[02:10] <Mitja> snowowl: are you talking to me?
[02:10] <nasimuto> Sanne: thank you, thats just what i needed :)
[02:10] <dooglus> felix_: perhaps it's a special feature that only exists in the french version.  retaliation for garlic, perhaps
[02:10] <felix_> dooglus is there a way to chmod it -r ?
[02:10] <coz> but the problem is inthe xorg files refering to the chipset intel driver  shown here     http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pY03sC20.html
[02:10] <felix_> haha
[02:10] <dooglus> felix_: -r?  whatchu mean?
[02:10] <Sanne> nasimuto: you're welcome :)
[02:10] <felix_> in fact, i'm from canada.
[02:10] <snowowl> ok, you should have said that - have you commented out the "load glcore" and "load dri" lines
[02:10] <felix_> recursive
[02:10] <Mitja> How do I init KDE from console? I'm locked out!
[02:10] <felix_> the desktop folders are still lock
[02:10] <Zedugh> felix_, /home is not your home, its the home of all users. Your home is /home/felix
[02:11] <dooglus> felix_: maybe that's what you did...  -r means "remove read".  "-R" means recursive.
[02:11] <Mitja> startx and startkde won't work
[02:11] <felix_> arrr
[02:11] <dura> ricardo, Sent
[02:11] <redguy> Mitja: not sure if I understood you correctly, but you might try sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart
[02:11] <dura> Try that and see if it works. If not, I'll try something else.
[02:11] <snowowl> in fact all you really have to do is this at the command line - one sec
[02:12] <Mitja> redguy: thanks, will do
[02:12] <felix_> DESKTOP is in the /home/username, and i did the chmod for /home..but the Desktopfiles  are still locked..
[02:12] <snowowl> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[02:12] <coz> If someone would look at this file and tell me what it is I have to change to get the video card working    http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pY03sC20.html
[02:12] <gar-> how i can get the mp3 plugin ????
[02:12] <dooglus> felix_: DESKTOP is /home/felix/Desktop
[02:12] <Quenyar> any way I can trick ubuntu into giving me a higher screen resolution with an old Matrox Millenium video card?
[02:12] <felix_> thats what i said
[02:13] <redguy> coz: how about setting "UseFBDev" to false ?
[02:13] <[Kismet] > Hi! How can I get shown the fps when I tun glxgear?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> what is hotline?   kinda scared to ask
[02:13] <RedRose> how do i launch a program in bash so that it will run til it's finished or killed?
[02:13] <coz> I haven't tried that but it still refers to the onboard video and not the card
[02:13] <dura> coz, Try disabling the onboard video in the BIOS first.
[02:14] <Zedugh> Kismet, something like glxgears --print-fps
[02:14] <snowowl> coz - try changing line 2 to this "Drivier nvidia"
[02:14] <coz> I did that
[02:14] <felix_> thanks dooglus
[02:14] <coz> that doesn't help
[02:14] <felix_> a -R worked well..
[02:14] <medgno> [Kismet] , glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[02:14] <felix_> much better than -r ..
[02:14] <felix_> ;P
[02:14] <faust> Heh.. this is screwed. That sound that's played when you launch a game from the applications menu in gnome blocks the sound for the game in some cases.
[02:14] <snowowl> erase line 6
[02:14] <snowowl> no - comment it out
[02:14] <faust> So far I've found it to disable sound in Supertux and Planet Penguin Racer.
[02:14] <coz> I think the identifiier has to change as well, no?
[02:15] <snowowl> not really thats just text
[02:15] <snowowl> ID string
[02:15] <Zedugh> RedRose, append " &" to the command
[02:15] <redguy> coz, snowowl but BusID should change...
[02:16] <snowowl> change line 5 to "BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:16] <redguy> coz: what happens whem you turn off onboard video i BIOS?
[02:16] <root__> redguy: thanks, but that didn't help :(
[02:16] <root__> I still can't get into desktop
[02:16] <darksoul> !ati
[02:16] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:16] <_native_> redguy; you die!!
[02:16] <coz> well actually there is a pci or agp switch I use the pci switch for the card and of course cannot get into the system on reboot
[02:16] <Zugwrack> What is the preferred method of connecting to a windows machine from ubuntu? A smbclient? Is there a gnome gui for one?
[02:16] <_native_> redguy; jk ;p
[02:17] <root__> I'm running irssi from console
[02:17] <root__> oops
[02:17] <redguy> _native_: O_o
[02:17] <faust> and from a user he shouldn't have too :)
[02:17] <_native_> root__; irrsi is tha shizznit.
[02:17] <dura> So, are the ATi drivers available or not available for 5.10?
[02:17] <snowowl> That disables the onboard video adapter - I Think
[02:17] <dura> It says yes and no on the wiki.
[02:17] <faust> dura: I installed ati drivers on my fresh setup today.
[02:17] <darksoul> !sources
[02:17] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:17] <redguy> !tell dura about ati
[02:17] <Mitja> redguy: I'm back
[02:18] <redguy> Mitja: did it work?
[02:18] <Mitja> redguy: no
[02:18] <dura> Red-Sox, I tried on a fresh install too. No go...
[02:18] <faust> Dura: xorg-fglrx-drivers
[02:18] <coz> I know what disbale onboard video in the bios but the problem is in the xorg file
[02:18] <Mitja> redguy: was here just before as root_
[02:18] <faust> then you just sudo fglrxsetup and reboot
[02:18] <dima202> Is there superkaramba for GNOME?????
[02:18] <dooglus> does anyone know how to get the touchpad to work in ubuntu?
[02:19] <Mitja> redguy: what's my next step. I don't want to reinstall the whole thing.
[02:19] <snowowl> hey - coz did you try the "nv" driver
[02:19] <faust> dooglus: you mean the synaptics touchpad on most laptops?
[02:19] <redguy> coz: but when you disable your card in BIOS you can do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <dura> E: Couldn't find package xorg-fglrx-drivers
[02:19] <faust> That should work as default like a PS/2 mouse.
[02:19] <dura> Because I can't enable any sources heh.
[02:19] <dooglus> faust: I don't know if it's synaptics or not.  it's silver, with a serated bit on the right
[02:19] <redguy> Mitja: can you tell me what actually happened that you don't have X?
[02:20] <faust> dura: I'm an idiot..
[02:20] <dura> dooglus, I have two AMD64 laptops with synaptics touchpads, and they both work fine without any work.
[02:20] <faust> It's xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:20] <dura> faust, Nah...
[02:20] <dooglus> faust: it kind of works - I can use it to move the pointer, and to click, but it won't scroll, or honour any of the other settings in xorg.conf
[02:20] <stone_> I can't connect the Win2K Server printer to ubuntu,anybody may help me?
[02:20] <redguy> dura: read what ubotu told you
[02:20] <Mitja> redguy: I was in normally running in desktop mode and wrote "reboot" in konsole.
[02:20] <faust> dooglus: the scroll part, you can pretty much give up on that so far :)
[02:20] <dooglus> dura: I'm used to being able to use the right-hand edge of a touch pad to work the scrollbars.
[02:20] <redguy> Mitja: and the system rebooted?
[02:20] <Mitja> redguy: It rebooted and when it came back it gave login: in console
[02:20] <dura> redguy, I've been there and read it. Ever notice how it says on the wiki page that the drivers are both available and not available for AMD64?
[02:20] <dooglus> faust: whatu mean?
[02:21] <dura> dooglus, Yeah I am too... it that works also.
[02:21] <faust> dooglus: when it comes to X, I'm happy to get basic scroll mice working.
[02:21] <redguy> dura: they're propably not... :-)
[02:21] <dooglus> dura: so what if it doesn't? how do you fix it?
[02:21] <faust> There is some magic method, but it eludes me.
[02:21] <Mitja> redguy: I logged in and here I'm running irssi :)
[02:21] <snowowl> dima - its called gDeskletes
[02:21] <dura> dooglus, Hang on...
[02:21] <snowowl> or something of that flavor
[02:21] <dooglus> I'm pretty sure the synaptics driver just isn't loaded
[02:21] <redguy> Mitja: can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere?
[02:22] <umberleigh> hi. are there any multi-protocol p2p clients available in ubuntu's software repositories?
[02:22] <dooglus> I think basic 'move and click' functionality works without the driver.  none of the settings in xorg.conf make any difference
[02:22] <Mitja> redguy: I don't know how to do that
[02:22] <redguy> umberleigh: mldonkey
[02:22] <Nilbus> Ubuntu's 64bit os is multi-lib, right?
[02:22] <dima202> checking for kde-config... not found
[02:22] <dima202> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[02:22] <dima202> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[02:22] <nalioth> dima202: install kde-devel
[02:22] <umberleigh> redguy: really? i thought that was just for the edonkey network
[02:22] <redguy> Mitja: what happened when you did what I told you?
[02:23] <redguy> umberleigh: no, it' multi protocol, not sure which protocols it can use though
[02:23] <dima202> nalioth, and I can use it under gnome?
[02:23] <Mitja> redguy: as if kdm was already running. It said Stopping kdm. Then Starting kdm back again.
[02:23] <dura> dooglus, http://kerneltrap.org/node/1582
[02:23] <nalioth> dima202: of course you can
[02:23] <umberleigh> redguy: cheers. shall check it out
[02:23] <dooglus> dura: thanks
[02:23] <Moco> I have tried using the repos, but i still can't get gcc version 3.0 in synaptic. I have tried compiling gcc-3.0 from source but I get errors..
[02:23] <dura> That's the howto I used to get it working in Gentoo.
[02:23] <dima202> nalioth, Awesome man! THanks
[02:23] <dura> dooglus, np
[02:24] <Mitja> redguy: and then console back again, no gui
[02:24] <Victorjiang> is the bug day over?
[02:25] <redguy> Mitja: and what about the console under alt-f7? you can change consoles in text mode in case you didn't know (alt-f1 to alt-f8)
[02:25] <nalioth> Moco: gcc-3.0 is not in the repos, do you mean gcc-2.95  ?
[02:25] <dima202> nalioth, kdebase-dev also good?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> gcc 3.4?
[02:25] <dooglus> dura: problem is, I already had 'evdev' loaded, and the kernel is the standard one, which I know works with the touchpad on my laptop at home
[02:25] <Nilbus> Anyone have a 64bit Turion?  What wireless chip does it have?  Is it supported natively like Centrino's?
[02:25] <nalioth> dima202: sure is
[02:25] <Moco> I got that and installed it, but the mplayer ./cinfigure said it was unsupported..
[02:25] <Moco> ./configure
[02:26] <Mitja> redguy: could I post it on the internet through console?
[02:26] <Mitja> redguy: like in pastebin?
[02:26] <dima202> nalioth, THanks, installing
[02:26] <redguy> Mitja: If you have your mouse working in the console, yes
[02:27] <ricardo> dura
[02:27] <nalioth> Moco: install gcc-3.4, please
[02:27] <ricardo> i resolve my probelm
[02:27] <gar-> woot long time is taking the update
[02:27] <Moco> Allright... Doing it now...
[02:27] <ricardo> but thak
[02:27] <Nino> how do you install Gcc 3.4?
[02:27] <redguy> Mitja: you would have to have a text www browser (elinks perhaps)
[02:27] <Nino> wait i have 3.4 lol
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Nino,  you can install it from synaptic or apt-get gcc 3.4 i think
[02:28] <redguy> Mitja: or maybe try to read the logfile, the lines with EE signify errors
[02:28] <Mitja> redguy: I don't. However, these two errors are at the end of the file you requested: EE Problem parsing the config file. EE Error parsing the config file.
[02:28] <Nino> im doing that but its still spazing out saying Gcc3.4 Command not found :(
[02:29] <Mitja> redguy: Just realized: it might have been my mistake. I was adding some gamma values and probably didn't write them down correctly.
[02:29] <Moco> Nalioth, it is installing 3.4 now...
[02:30] <redguy> Mitja: hmmm, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <redguy> Mitja: it should rebuild your xorg.conf file
[02:30] <Mitja> redguy: I would rather delete those gamma values...
[02:30] <Mitja> by hand
[02:30] <gnomefreak> gcc 3.4 may be in the build-essentials i cant remember if it has 4 or 3.4
[02:31] <Mitja> redguy is there an internet client I can run in console?
[02:31] <Moco> Yess! MPlayer install is working. Thanks!
[02:31] <redguy> 3.4
[02:31] <redguy> Mitja: you mean a www browser?
[02:31] <Mitja> redguy: kinda
[02:31] <redguy> Mitja: several, elinks or lynx for example
[02:31] <redondos> How can I change the default video player on my system? I assume, using update-alternatives, but I can't find the name in /etc/alternatives. Also, `update-alternatives --all` never prompted me to select a video player.
[02:32] <Victorjiang> ubotu: is the bug day over?
[02:32] <ubotu> Victorjiang: Wish i knew
[02:32] <Nino> how do i find which version of ubuntu i hve?
[02:32] <redguy> gnomefreak: for regular browsing, or in extreme situations only?
[02:32] <Mitja> redguy: commands not found on neither of them
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Victorjiang,  if you mean the us.archive server no its kinda working but not real great
[02:33] <xfree> Nino, uname -a
[02:33] <gnomefreak> regular
[02:33] <redguy> Mitja: you would have to install them first; sudo apt-get install elinks for example
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Redguy: define extreame situations please
[02:33] <Nino> but like breezy etc whats that?
[02:34] <Moco> Is MEncoder part of MPlayer or a seperate project?
[02:34] <xfree> Nino, on simple way if it 2.6.9 its hoary and if it 2.12.x its breezy
[02:34] <Madpilot> Nino: Breezy is just the nickname for the current stable version of Ubuntu
[02:34] <redguy> gnomefreak: hmm extreme was a bad word... to rephrase my question: you use it by choice or as a necessity?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> choice
[02:35] <Nino> 2.6.12-9-386
[02:35] <nalioth> Moco: it's part of mplayer
[02:35] <Moco> Good.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> i enjoy them sometimes they are faster and less bs on them
[02:35] <strokey> breezy badger has to be the best name ever
[02:35] <gnomefreak> Nino,  thats breezy kernel
[02:35] <Nino> it came on a free cd from mums work lol
[02:35] <nalioth> Moco: i recommend you run ./configure --help and see all the variables you can switch on or use
[02:35] <xfree> Nino, than its breezy :) i think there are other way
[02:35] <bimberi> Mitja: are you wanting to pastebin something from the console? There's a script that will do that...
[02:36] <redguy> gnomefreak: true...
[02:36] <Nino> and breezy comes with GCC3.4? any idea what the GCC3.4 command not found is about?
[02:36] <Moco> Allready make && make installed
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> Nino, lsb_release -a
[02:36] <navarone> gnomefreak> I have been playing with icons. I have gnome estra icons installed and I know how to select them, but are there any other locations which have suitable files for use as icons? I mean beyond /usr/pixmaps/other...? Or are there other icon pakages available in synaptic?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Nino,  i think default is gcc 4.0
[02:37] <xfree> wickedpuppy, new thing on my lib :) thank you
[02:37] <Moco> Hopefully I can install acidrip after this... Had trouble doing it under cygwin.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> xfree, if you wish cat /etc/issue
[02:38] <gnomefreak> navarone,  for gnome i dont think there are any other icons unless you want to build your own :) as for locations i dont think there is but i dont play with my icons often
[02:38] <navarone> gnomefreak> okie thnx
[02:38] <xfree> Nino, read on ubuntufourm.org about how to install vmware i think this what you try to do "something need gc3.4"
[02:38] <stimpie> My nautilus crashes when trying to too thumbnaile a  .ogg file
[02:38] <bimberi> Mitja: "wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin" then "chmod +x pastebin" then "cat <yourfile> | ./pastebin"
[02:39] <xfree> wickedpuppy, my hero of this day :) wow
[02:39] <Nino> thanks for the help xfree, i have no notion what im doing tho lol
[02:39] <gnomefreak> navarone, im not sure but have you checked gnome.org for icon themes?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> art.gnome.org
[02:40] <xfree> Nino, whay you ask about gcc 3.4?
[02:40] <Nino> im trying to install ieee80211 but when i "make" the file im getting an error saying that it cant make it
[02:41] <Mitja> bimberi: thanks :)
[02:41] <navarone> gnome> I have gnome-art installed...that that access same files?
[02:41] <bimberi> Mitja: np :)
[02:41] <Xen> is it possible to burn the livecd image to a dvd and use that?
[02:41] <Xen> because all I have is a DVD-RW
[02:42] <dima202> hmmm
[02:42] <Moco> Yes, xen
[02:42] <Nino> shall i paste the errors?
[02:42] <dima202> nalioth, I am still getting error
[02:42] <dima202> Making install in superkaramba
[02:42] <dima202> make[2] : Entering directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : Entering directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[02:42] <dima202> /bin/sh ../../admin/mkinstalldirs /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/superkaramba
[02:42] <dima202> mkdir -p -- /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/superkaramba
[02:42] <gnomefreak> yes but they might have a link to icons on the page i dont remember and im getting there i had to re-instasll ubuntu :(
[02:42] <dima202> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/doc/HTML': Permission denied
[02:42] <Moco> The image should work fine
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : *** [install-nls]  Error 1
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <Madpilot> !tell dima202 about pastebin
[02:42] <dima202> make[2] : *** [install-am]  Error 2
[02:42] <dima202> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <Moco> I  have done that with other live cds
[02:42] <faust> Hmm.. anyone here know how to make mplayer use -vo xv as default?
[02:42] <dima202> make[1] : *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[02:42] <dima202> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc'
[02:42] <Xen> ok
[02:42] <dima202> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[02:42] <gnomefreak> dima202,  please dont paste in here
[02:42] <dima202> dima@ubuntu:~/Desktop/superkaramba$
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> tell dieman_ about pastebin
[02:42] <gnomefreak> dima202,  use pastebin to paste please
[02:42] <stimpie> dima202 dont spam
[02:43] <dima202> ooh
[02:43] <dima202> Sorry, forgot about pastebin
[02:43] <nasimuto> is there any way i can distribute some computing load off of my ubuntu laptop to my win xp desktop ?
[02:43] <xfree> Nino, because the kernel build with gcc 3.4 than that what i informed you about to do "vmware how to" its the same problem
[02:43] <faust> nevermind. found it myself.
[02:43] <dima202> stimpie, I am not spamming?
[02:43] <nasimuto> eg. shared computing
[02:43] <nalioth> dima202: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please before you are banned for pasting
[02:43] <rixth> EVERY keypress I make gets logged to /var/messages. I get THOUSANDS of these:
[02:43] <rixth> Nov 25 14:42:52 bear kernel: [4304054.659000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:43] <dooglus> faust: stcik 'vo=xv' in ~/.mplayer/config
[02:43] <Nino> xfree may i pm you?
[02:43] <Moco> dima202, I think he means you are making to many posts..
[02:43] <Moco> too many
[02:43] <gnomefreak> navarone, yes there is an icon link on that page
[02:43] <xfree> Nino, ok
[02:43] <Mitja> redguy: pasted through console: pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5023
[02:44] <Mitja> this is so exciting :D
[02:44] <Madpilot> dima202: a long paste like that counts as spamming...
[02:44] <RazorJack> Hey Guys, running a PVR-250 on 5.10 ubuntu.... in normal boot, kernel from the install CD the card is recognized as a PVR-150 and DOES NOT WORK, if I boot to recovery mode... it works fine. any ideas?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> navarone,  look at these http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/
[02:45] <navarone> gnomefreak> Yes I see...but mostly icon sets from themes that don't interest me much...<s> I was looking for cartoon and more symbolic type icons...not folder pics and such
[02:45] <ale3hs> hello, is it possible to connect my motorolla v975 throu usb in ubuntu?
[02:45] <ale3hs> an easy way
[02:45] <redguy> Mitja: hyrm, this seems to be a kernel .config
[02:45] <Moco> Have you tried?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> navarone,  im sorry i was using  a  text browser i wasnt able to tell what they were
[02:46] <Mitja> redguy: well, you asked for it. Would you like me anything else to paste?
[02:46] <navarone> gnomefreak> np...thanks for taking the time
[02:46] <gnomefreak> navarone,  not a problem im here to help
[02:48] <X2K4Y> hey all
[02:49] <mitja> redguy: back, having some experiments with irssi
[02:50] <rixth> How do I check the syslog again?
[02:50] <redguy> mitja: actually I wanted to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[02:50] <xfree> is there a way to know what the last thing i do on apt-get -synaptic- upgrade install ?
[02:50] <mitja> redguy that was that file
[02:50] <mitja> redguy but I can always paste it again
[02:50] <Zugwrack> I can't connect to my windows smb shares...keeps telling me the password is incorrect...I know this is not the case...I have the Ubuntu ip and name in the windows hosts file...anything else I can do?
[02:51] <mitja> redguy: hang on
[02:51] <redguy> mitja: then the link might have been bad
[02:52] <Nino> how do i save txt in linux so thati can view it on a pc?
[02:52] <ralph_nader> hey, have I come to the right place for a basic ubuntu question?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Nino, save as .txt
[02:52] <redguy> ralph_nader: maybe
[02:52] <Nino> k thanks
[02:52] <mitja>   redguy: sorry, something wrong was pasted-don't have a clue. Here's a new link: pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5027
[02:52] <matthew> how do i get my ntfs partition to automatically mount on startup (the instructions on ubuntuguide.org don't work)
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Nino, open office can save as .doc or export to pdf ... pls check those out
[02:53] <Nino> *spot the noobe!!!!*
[02:53] <Nino> lol
[02:53] <redguy> mitja: well, it is right there
[02:53] <ralph_nader> can you tell me what the minimum cpu requirements are to run 5.10 reasonably well?
[02:53] <redguy> mitja: Parse error on line 73 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <gar-> %72 upgrade =)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> ralph_nader, min ?? sheesh ... whats ya system ? then we tell ya if you can run or not
[02:54] <mitja> redguy: I know, I've "mored" it
[02:54] <Nino> sure you cant move stuff from linux to a NTFS pendrive
[02:54] <umberleigh> in bash, how do i execute 2 commands on the same command line with the 2nd command starting without waiting for the first to complete?
[02:54] <mitja> redguy: it's the gamma settings most likely
[02:54] <redguy> mitja: propably
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> umberleigh, #bash
[02:55] <ralph_nader> wickedpuppy:  say an intel 800mhz
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> ralph_nader, thats way higher than min ....
[02:55] <redguy> mitja: you might want to do a backup of any file you alter, so that you can easily undo your changes in case something goes not the way you wanted it to
[02:55] <Zugwrack> umberleigh: command && command
[02:56] <dooglus> umberleigh: Zugwrack is telling you lies :)
[02:56] <redguy> Zugwrack: not true
[02:56] <mitja> redguy: yeah, for sure ;)
[02:56] <skullb0x> i just installed amsn from apt-get, where does it install to, and where do i add my plugins to?
[02:56] <umberleigh> Zugwrack: that waits for 1 command to complete before the 2nd starts
[02:56] <ralph_nader> wickedpuppy: OK, how about a 133mhz?
[02:56] <redguy> umberleigh: foo &; bar
[02:56] <dooglus> umberleigh: it onlyruns the 2nd command if the 1st one retuns a zero exit status, too
[02:56] <Zugwrack> uhhh..yeah..just checkin....if you know that then you know the answer to your first question
[02:57] <dooglus> umberleigh: the correct answer is foo & bar
[02:57] <glyn_> I know this isn't the right place to ask this, but is Accutane a steroid?
[02:57] <glyn_> maybe someone can tell me somewhere I can get an answer using Linux
[02:57] <glyn_> all I have is GAIM and Xchat
[02:57] <dooglus> glyn_: do you have "apt-get"?
[02:57] <glyn_> yes
[02:57] <Zugwrack> glyn: How about WebMD..that might be a good place to start...
[02:58] <ralph_nader> glyn_: you lucked out, i'm a pharmacist and no, it is a vitamin a derivative (on my shelf behind me)
[02:58] <dooglus> glyn_: so "apt-get install lynx", then use lynx to google it
[02:58] <redguy> holy shoot, I was wrong too
[02:58] <nasimuto> gnite
[02:58] <Moco> Ralph Nader's a pharmacists too?!!?
[02:58] <glyn_> thanks ralph_nader
[02:58] <Zugwrack> night nasi:
[02:58] <ralph_nader> in my store as i type
[02:59] <ralph_nader> and it's a nasty drug, and $$$ too
[02:59] <Moco> Wow. Sorry about the whole election thing.
[03:00] <mustermann> hey ralph, prilosec vs. prevacid?  big difference in effect?
[03:00] <nalioth> y'all take the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:00] <dr_willis> :P
[03:01] <redguy> bye cruel world!
[03:01] <dooglus> redguy: don't worry
[03:01] <ralph_nader> mustermann: shouldn't be, they're cousins of each other.  sorry about the off topic.
[03:01] <Nino> why cant i save stuff on my pendrive?
[03:01] <umberleigh> what's the escape sequence for a newline in bash?
[03:01] <mustermann> thanks ralph.
[03:01] <navarone> Nino> writing to ntfs is not fully supported I think
[03:01] <Nino> starting to wonder why i changed to linux lol
[03:02] <gnomefreak> umberleigh,  isnt it \n?
[03:02] <mustermann> any wine users?  which override dll's are "musts'?
[03:02] <dr_willis> I wonder why people still use windows. :P
[03:02] <trincamckee> hi there
[03:02] <ralph_nader> so does anyone think i can run 5.10 on a 200mhz intel box?
[03:02] <gar-> gnome =/
[03:02] <umberleigh> gnomefreak: i'm a noob. :s
[03:02] <navarone> Nino> can you change pendrive format to fat32...fat32 is writable in linux
[03:02] <dooglus> umberleigh: what are you trying to do?
[03:02] <gar-> i dont like gnome but i dont have no me choice until i finnish upgrade :P
[03:02] <dr_willis> ralph_nader,  yes.. but you will want a very minimal window manager.
[03:02] <trincamckee> ralph_nader, no problem with that
[03:02] <trincamckee> i have my p200 runing ubuntu as well
[03:03] <trincamckee> but with xfce
[03:03] <dr_willis> it tool forever to install on my P100 :)
[03:03] <dooglus> !universe
[03:03] <Nino> navarone thanks ill give that a go
[03:03] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:03] <dr_willis> yea - that xubuntu variant with xfce replaceing gnome maybe worth looking into.
[03:03] <umberleigh> dooglus: find a quick work around to run mlnet and kmldonkey at the same time.
[03:03] <ralph_nader> trincamckee:ok that's what i needed to know.  thanks!
[03:03] <gar-> %90 =)
[03:03] <dooglus> umberleigh: you don't need an escaped newline for that, do you?
[03:04] <umberleigh> dooglus: it doesn't seem to work if i put mlnet in the background with a &
[03:04] <threeseas> my ubuntu breezy system got screwed and now only boots to a shell and won't allow me to run some binaries -- is there a way to start up the nautilus gui?
[03:04] <Cope57> < recently built pc with AMD64 cpu. Installed Ubuntu64 and could not get internet. I then tried the liveCD Ubuntu64 and still no Internet. Reinstalled Simply Mepis with no problems of Internet connection. Now the question is, what do I need to do to get Ubuntu64 to connect to Internet? Hardware is always found, but does not connect, even after many attempts.
[03:04] <dooglus> umberleigh: alias runboth="nohup mlnet & nohup kmldonkey &"
[03:04] <ZeroDni> hey I was wondering if anyone knew any good documentation on comparing the turn around time for security vulnerabilities in Ubuntu or other Debian base Linuxs and windows I have found some reports but they are about red hat and I dont believe red hat shows a good example of Linux because of a lot of their Microsoft practices thanks
[03:04] <dr_willis> threeseas,  try 'startx' yet?
[03:05] <navarone> Nino> unless you need pendrive for mobility reasons you could make a small fat32 partition and use that to transfer files backa nd forth
[03:05] <umberleigh> dooglus: thanks. i'll give it a try
[03:05] <threeseas> dr_willis: yes and get a can't execute binary message
[03:05] <dr_willis> threeseas,  sounds bad to me....
[03:05] <glyn_> ralph_nader:aren't lots of steroids vitamin derivatives?
[03:06] <Nino> im moving from my laptop to my desktop
[03:06] <threeseas> dr_willis: and due to the LVM I can't use knoppix to access and backup the drive
[03:06] <navarone> Nino> is the desktop set up with os yet?
[03:06] <brownie17> hey can someone help me? i am using rhythmbox and it was displaying all my music, but it seems when i put more music into it, it kicks out an old song
[03:07] <threeseas> is there a way to mount the ubuntu lvm
[03:07] <dr_willis> threeseas,  sounds VERY bad to me. But there may be some live cd that can handle the LVM -  no clue on that. never used it. sorry
[03:07] <Nino> the laptops got XP/Linux and the desktops got XP
[03:08] <Blissex> threeseas: would this help: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/LVM2
[03:08] <navarone> Nino> why not just do a fresh install of ubuntu on desktop?
[03:08] <threeseas> would a reinstal of breezy would over write the old system completely?
[03:09] <Nino> cus i have no notion of linux figureed id mess around with the laptop installation first
[03:09] <Nino> cant even get wireless card working :(
[03:09] <Nino> been trying for 2 days
[03:09] <Blissex> Nino: wireless cards are a mess. You got to get one that is known to work. Most don't.
[03:09] <Blissex> Nino: you can get cheapo 11b USB sticks that are known to work well for like US$20 or similar.
[03:10] <Blissex> Nino: for a list on these: http://tinyurl.com/adhwx
[03:10] <Nino> its the Intel Pro 2200BG a few ppl have got it to work, i was nearly finished the tutorial but it wont make the ieee80
[03:10] <navarone> Nino> It is pretty easy. Most trouble comes with partitioning and bootloader...but you can install on desktop and get installer to resize windows partion(if you don't have freespace available) and install in the space you create.
[03:10] <Blissex> Nino: thats one of the few that work well...
[03:11] <Cope57> :-/
[03:11] <brownie17> everyone, i have just realised the absalute and complete beauty of amaroK!!! it is good as!
[03:11] <Nino> yeah thats what i did on the laptop, repartitioned 7GB for it
[03:11] <Blissex> Nino: I am somewhat surprised that the 2200BG does not ''just work''.
[03:11] <spikebike> does ubuntu have a minimal install?  If so how big is it?
[03:11] <navarone> Nino> I got new drive and set up partions for windows and left 14 gb for ubuntu...that should alst...lol
[03:12] <Nino> well it kinna did but it didnt let me connect so i figured it was an out of date driver
[03:12] <navarone> Nino> how are you connected on desktop? ethernet?
[03:12] <Nino> wireless
[03:12] <Nino> on the desktop
[03:13] <navarone> Nino> sry...can't help on wireless...I have so many wires around me I even wear cords
[03:13] <Cope57> <[03:13] <Nino> LMAO!
[03:13] <trincamckee> hey guys where can i delete xsession entries? http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg
[03:13] <trincamckee>  , as u see i have a duplicated xfce entrie, i tried to delete the desktop file under /usr/share/xsession but didnt work...
[03:13] <trincamckee> any clue?
[03:14] <Nino> is there anyway to reset ubuntu?  or just do a fresh install?
[03:14] <conn> hi, when I try to use a resolution of 1280x1024 or greater, glxgears, glxinfo etc. give segfaults. I think it's a problem with the r128 driver, can someone help?
[03:14] <navarone> Nino> I would do afresh install...and maybe use pendrive to backup system when satisfied
[03:15] <navarone> Nino> assuming drive is big enough
[03:15] <Nino> 512MB but its not writing to it and its FAT32
[03:15] <navarone> hmm
[03:15] <fevoldj2> is there mcrypt for php5 in ubuntu?
[03:16] <navarone> dunno anything about removable drives either...<sheesh I am useless> <s>
[03:16] <witless> how do i copy a music cd from the ubuntu desktop?
[03:17] <navarone> witless> are the files on the desktop?
[03:17] <Nino> heh we all cant know everything lol
[03:17] <Nino> gonna reinstall now
[03:17] <witless> navarone: they're on a music cd
[03:17] <Nino> *fingers crossed*
[03:17] <trincamckee> witless, try gnomebaker
[03:17] <dr_willis> or K3b
[03:17] <navarone> witless...you have to rip tracks first
[03:17] <witless> is there a method that's integrated into the desktop?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know if there is something like k-stars for gnome?
[03:17] <witless> navarone: i thought there was a way to do it in one shot similar to an iso
[03:18] <navarone> gnomefreak...I dunno about like k-stars...but try stellarium...it is gui tho
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ty navarone
[03:18] <navarone> witless> if you simply want to copy whole cd you use copy I guess
[03:18] <witless> navarone: i tried that, get "not valid iso 9660 format" error when i try to write it
[03:18] <witless> (to a blank cd)
[03:19] <navarone> gnomefreak...it is an amazing little prog...quite stylish...but not long on extended info
[03:19] <gnomefreak> navarone,  does it run in 2d?
[03:19] <navarone> gnome...google and look at screenshots...it is quite nice visually
[03:19] <ctcecil> navarone what proggy are you two discussing i just entered...
[03:19] <navarone> stellarium
[03:20] <navarone> gnome...i have another one in mind but it must be compiled from srcs
[03:20] <fevoldj2> Hi
[03:20] <navarone> gnomefreak> i will get addy for prog
[03:20] <fevoldj2> It looks like Ubuntu does not have a package for libmcrypt-php5 and I need it. Is there a way I can get it?
[03:20] <ctcecil> astronomy; wow definatly not my field, heh
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ty navarone
[03:21] <gar-> upgrading in progress =)
[03:21] <ajmitch_> fevoldj2: php5-mcrypt
[03:22] <gnomefreak> gar-,  are you using us.archives.ubuntu.com repos?
[03:22] <umberleigh> anyone know why this would be compaining 'no such file or directory': umberleigh@tessa2:~/old_home/bin$ $PATH = $PATH:/home/umberleigh/old_home/bin
[03:22] <fevoldj2> Yeah that's what I meant. The package does not exist.
[03:22] <navarone> gnomefreak> http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/index.html
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ty mav
[03:22] <gnomefreak> navarone,  even
[03:23] <gwark> is dvd::rip ubuntu native ?
[03:23] <navarone> gnomefreak> np
[03:24] <fevoldj2> ajmitch: it isn't in the repository and I have all the repos enabled.
[03:24] <fevoldj2> Is there a .deb I can get from somewhere else for it?
[03:25] <intmainvoid> !tell intmainvoid about sex
[03:25] <intmainvoid> ubotu said: i dunno what is 'sex'.
[03:25] <ubotu> okay, intmainvoid
[03:25] <gnomefreak> intmainvoid, lol im guessing that doesnt work
[03:25] <intmainvoid> =) Sorry ubotu. Just seeing.
[03:25] <conn> quick question, I've upgraded to the dapper dev release, and I'm having an issue with Xorg. Is it safe to report bugs to bugzilla using dapper? (this problem was in breezy too)
[03:26] <intmainvoid> Can anyone help me with my OpenGL? Nobody in #opengl is helping
[03:26] <vbgunz> anyone know of an easy way to back up my DVD home movies to MPG? I do not wish to make one GIGANTIC MPG file... I would like the individual cuts to remain seperate... Any ideas?
[03:26] <intmainvoid> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5028
[03:26] <gnomefreak> conn,  type /topic     :(
[03:27] <slide> Im launching a second X server ("X :1") inside a bash script, does anyone know how to get the pid of it? Im using gksudo to launch it actually, so $! wont work.
[03:27] <conn> gnomefreak: thx, but this is a prob with breezy, it's related to the r128 driver in Xorg
[03:27] <Nino> heres hoping i havnt just overwrote my windows install lol
[03:28] <gnomefreak> conn,  if using breezy you can config the xorg files
[03:28] <navarone> gnomefreak> that xephem is pretty hefty eh? lol
[03:28] <gnomefreak> navarone,  it is im gonna look more at it in morning
[03:28] <ctcecil> can i upgrade from hoary to breezy without a cd and without losing anything (like my wireless configuration that took forever to get working)
[03:28] <Nino> brb beer time
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, yes you can
[03:28] <ctcecil> gnomefreak >> is it difficult?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, no its not there is a great wiki guide to upgrading but i lost it in reformat
[03:29] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[03:29] <ctcecil> ALSO how can i remove the root account password, i enabled it before i because familiar with sudo
[03:29] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:29] <M3t4lBoy> hello
[03:29] <M3t4lBoy> waaaa
[03:29] <gnomefreak> there you go
[03:29] <M3t4lBoy> my first try Ubuntu Live
[03:29] <ctcecil> thanks gnomefreak
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ctcecil about upgrade please
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ywe
[03:30] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy-
[03:30] <intmainvoid> Can anyone help me with my OpenGL? Nobody in #opengl is helping
[03:30] <intmainvoid> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5028
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> waaa... the first one to detect my network card AND my sound card... without mentioning my graphic card....
[03:30] <pablo928> What version?
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> 5.1
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> just received in the mail :D
[03:30] <gnomefreak> intmainvoid,  try in #ubuntu-offtopic they might beable to help
[03:30] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy- Are you going to install?
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> got 5 of them... gonna share for sure... it work so good
[03:31] <navarone> ctceil> I think this is what you need...but I am not certain  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76629.html
[03:31] <M3t4lBoy> probably ;) I'll need another HD so I can still play my windows games
[03:31] <ctcecil> gnomefreak i ran into a problem already with pre upgrade saying ubuntu base qabd desktop are newest and it wants to to run apt-get -f install
[03:31] <navarone> ctcecil rather
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, hold please
[03:31] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy- If you have the room on hhd, you can do a  dual boot.
[03:32] <Nino> beer + choc digestives = happy nino :)
[03:32] <ctcecil> thanks gnomefreak.
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> I only have 8Go left ... not enough (I download too...)
[03:32] <Nino> so what are the advantages of linux over XP?
[03:32] <Agrajag> it's not $200
[03:32] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy- Yes, looks like you need 2nd drive.
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> but I already tried Debian and Redhat... but Ubuntu is the only one who actually detected EVERYTHING
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> that rocks
[03:32] <Nino> true lol
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> yup pablo lol
[03:32] <witless> is there a way integrated into the gnome desktop to duplicate an audio cd?  i tried "copy cd", but writing the resulting iso to cd gave me "invalid iso 9660 format" errors
[03:32] <ctcecil> this apt-get -f install is removing all kinds of stuff... wtf?
[03:33] <navarone> Nino> free...secure...and did I mention free...?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  dwhat happened when you ran that command?
[03:33] <zcat[1] > XP isn't $200 either.. it's free with every computer
[03:33] <gnomefreak> no ctc
[03:33] <Agrajag> zcat[1] : ahahahahhahaahahahhaa
[03:33] <Agrajag> ahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah
[03:33] <Agrajag> oh mna
[03:33] <ctcecil> gnomefreak its doing alot of Removing...
[03:33] <Agrajag> oh
[03:33] <gnomefreak> dont run -f anything
[03:33] <Agrajag> free
[03:33] <Agrajag> aahahhahahaa
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  hit cntl+c
[03:33] <Nino> we likes free stuff!
[03:33] <glick> anyone here ever use icarus verilog?
[03:33] <Agrajag> zcat[1] : you pay for windows whne you purchase the computer.
[03:33] <zcat[1] > free/unavoidable - you pay the same no matter what OS you want
[03:33] <ctcecil> gnomefreak it was apt-get and it told me to itself
[03:33] <Agrajag> zcat[1] : not true
[03:34] <zcat[1] > in fact you pay more if you want a box without windows usually..
[03:34] <Agrajag> some places will sell you a computer with no OS, or with linux or freedos installed
[03:34] <Nino> XP came preinstall on my laptop but i got windows on desktop via "other means"
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  what you want to run is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <ctcecil> gnomefreak : great so i just screwed myself for a new re-install
[03:34] <Agrajag> or you can always make your own, it's not rocket surgery.
[03:34] <pppoe_dude> is it safe to run gnunetd as root? it seems to be giving me a permission error
[03:34] <ctcecil> yeah i did that which told me to apt-get -f
[03:34] <gnomefreak> no you didnt ctcecil
[03:34] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : if I wanted to buy a copy of XP to run on this machine - which I bought w/o an OS - it would cost me $400 Cdn for XP Pro...
[03:34] <ctcecil> now apt get is giving an error.
[03:34] <threeseas> is there any way at all to access the lvm from a ubuntu breezy live cd? I'd like to back it up to dvd before reinstalling --- man this sucks
[03:34] <ctcecil> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <ctcecil> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  what error?
[03:34] <pablo928> zcat[1] - unfortunately very few manufacturers off the option of no os.
[03:35] <Nino> i wish dell would offer an option of "no shite"
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  ok run sudo dpkg --configure -a and let me know what it does
[03:35] <Mitja> oh, man I like it so much internet in console! it asks you about every cookie!
[03:35] <rcmiv> winXP is not free
[03:35] <zcat[1] > if you want to buy a pre-built machine from any big retailer, no-os generally costs more than Windows. Weird, but true..
[03:36] <pablo928> Does anyone know of a laptop that ships with no os?
[03:36] <rcmiv> heh
[03:36] <threeseas> when installing breezy, do I recall the option to not use LVM?
[03:36] <Mitja> pablo928: sure, you can get them in Slovenia
[03:36] <ctcecil> Setting up alot of stuff, gnomefreak
[03:36] <navarone> zcat> it sounds like you are saying people have to pay not to have windows instaled...:/
[03:36] <gnomefreak> threeseas,  it gives you the option to use lvm in the partion stage
[03:36] <Nino> is linux better for java programming?
[03:36] <ctcecil> locales, etc
[03:36] <zcat[1] > which just goes to prove that simply installing Windows makes your hardware less valuable
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  good
[03:36] <ctcecil> Nino -- YES. ITS BETTER FOR EVERYTHING! =] 
[03:36] <Nino> i think we need to use linux next year in university
[03:36] <Agrajag> Nino: the JVM should act the same in any OS
[03:37] <threeseas> thanks
[03:37] <Nino> true
[03:37] <holycow> and eclipse works everywhere
[03:37] <Davey> shame it blows
[03:37] <gnomefreak> Nino, better is a personal opion but they act pretty much the same from platform to platform eclipse is already in your ubuntu repos :)
[03:37] <Nino> just discovered eclipse its fantastic!!!
[03:37] <ctcecil> now the apt-get for ubuntu-desktop gave ALOT of unmet dependencies, so i DID infact screw myself.
[03:37] <Nino> the stepthrough function is fantastic
[03:37] <ctcecil> gnomefreak^
[03:38] <holycow> *shrug* there are enough people out there to disagree with ya, it all depends on how your framing the answer
[03:38] <Nino> is it really?  ill have to hoke it out
[03:38] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  if you screwed yourself you would know cause you wouldnt beable to recover
[03:38] <ctcecil> it gave 3 pages of "Depends: "
[03:39] <ctcecil> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:40] <gnomefreak> apt-get -f install what?
[03:40] <ctcecil> it says run it by itself E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:40] <zcat[1] > apt-get -f install (nothing)
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ok run that with sudo ctcecil
[03:41] <zcat[1] > "with no packages" -- you speak english?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> its safe :)
[03:41] <ctcecil> gnomefreak -- i did, and thats what REMOVED everything
[03:42] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, i just ran it and it didnt ask me to remove anything
[03:42] <zcat[1] > hmm.. if it's removing lots of stuff your sources.list must be very broken
[03:42] <ctcecil> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:42] <ctcecil> and it listed about 30 packages including libgconf, libgnome, libgtk
[03:43] <psusi> ctcecil, you running dapper?
[03:43] <ctcecil> and im sure it would've listed many more if they hadnt already been removed.
[03:43] <ctcecil> no.,
[03:43] <ctcecil> hoary
[03:43] <psusi> hrm...
[03:43] <zcat[1] > I'd let it go ahead and remove them. How bad can it get? :-)
[03:43] <psusi> why can't you just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to reinstall all the removed stuff?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> psusi,  he can
[03:44] <Sparky_> re all..
[03:44] <ctcecil> psusi -- my apt-get is being weird, I did that and its saying it depends on all this stuff to install
[03:44] <zcat[1] > It's probably trying to remove them because they're the wrong packages.
[03:44] <holycow> what is the max ram a 32 bit os can address?
[03:44] <ctcecil> !upgrade
[03:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:45] <Knorrie> holycow: 2^32?
[03:45] <ctcecil> lol i just try to run firefox
[03:45] <ctcecil> and it's been removed.
[03:45] <ctcecil> great.
[03:45] <Sparky_> ok..that was fun..NOT
[03:45] <holycow> ctcecil, so install it back on
[03:46] <ctcecil> Cant. The dependencies are removed. apt-get complains about them
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop see what it says
[03:46] <ctcecil> gnomefreak: i did that earlier when you asked and told you about the 3 pages of unmet dependencies it was complaining about
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, that was with ubuntu-base
[03:47] <ctcecil> gnomefreak: aparently not i just ran just with ubuntu-desktop and it does the same
[03:47] <ctcecil> zcat[1]  my apt-get is being gay and is complaining about dependencies without installing them itself
[03:47] <gnomefreak> zcat[1] ,  he said he did it i thought thats why ff isnt there
[03:48] <Sparky_> bbiab
[03:48] <navarone> gnomefreak> could this problem be caused by repos being unavailable?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  are you using us.archive.ubuntu.com repos?
[03:48] <ctcecil> zcat[1]  i did do that and it removed EVERYTHING
[03:48] <ctcecil> gnomefreak, yes i just redid my repos
[03:48] <gnomefreak> navarone, use de instead of us than run sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <psusi> ctcecil, apt-get will install other packages that this one depends on automatically
[03:49] <ctcecil> psusi - thats what i thought, but its not
[03:49] <ctcecil> psusi - its just complaining about dependencies
[03:49] <zcat[1] > 'complaining' means what?
[03:49] <ctcecil> the only thing i see to fix this now is re-installing with my hoary cd
[03:49] <ctcecil> holdon ill paste it
[03:49] <psusi> odd... maybe your sources.list is weird?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> ill bbl a lil later i got to take meds
[03:49] <ctcecil> Wait, i cant, firefox wont install
[03:50] <holycow> brb
[03:50] <ctcecil> psusi where is sources list located i forgot
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <ctcecil> nvm
[03:50] <ctcecil> lol. sudo: gedit: command not found
[03:50] <ctcecil> this is rediculous
[03:50] <ctcecil> vi works
[03:51] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, did you run that in vi or terminal?
[03:52] <ctcecil> i ran it in terminal
[03:52] <ctcecil> obviously gedit has been removed
[03:52] <strokey> i need some help guys
[03:52] <ctcecil> but vi is still available
[03:52] <strokey> i installed ndiswrapper with apt-get
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, is that the only os on that pc?
[03:52] <strokey> and then did ndiswrapper -i <my wirelesss .inf file>
[03:52] <strokey> what do i do now? :E
[03:52] <ctcecil> gnomefreak what are you talking about
[03:52] <psusi> ctcecil, in /etc/apt
[03:53] <ctcecil> gnomefreak my ubuntu?
[03:53] <theCore> strokey: what is your wireless chipset?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, is that the only operating system on that computer
[03:53] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:53] <strokey> theCore: im not sure
[03:53] <ctcecil> psusi i just replaces my sources.list with my backup and still no cigar.
[03:53] <Nino> reintalled and my wireless card is there WOOHOO!!!
[03:53] <strokey> zcat[1] : thanks for the help! :_:
[03:53] <theCore> strokey: what is the model then?
[03:53] <ctcecil> gnomefreak : im dual booted with windows, but i rarely ever touch it.
[03:53] <strokey> yakumo quickWLAN USB
[03:54] <ctcecil> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[03:54] <psusi> ctcecil, you did an apt-get update right?
[03:55] <theCore> strokey: the brand ?
[03:55] <strokey> yakumo
[03:55] <ctcecil> psusi yes and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop still is giving dependency errors
[03:55] <nickrud> ctcecil, you have a line like deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted also, right?
[03:55] <theCore> strokey: yakumo ????
[03:55] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, the fastest way i can think of at 10pm would be to use the install disk to recover but i dont think you can with ubuntu or re install it than from there dont do the updates or nothing just use the instructions on that page
[03:55] <ctcecil> nuckrud - yes
[03:55] <strokey> theCore: that is what i said
[03:55] <odin> Is 660 the right permission for all users read only?
[03:55] <brownie17> can someone tell me how i can edit text sizes and stuff like that in KDE?
[03:56] <Hmmmm> hi guys, anyone familiar with gnump3d?
[03:56] <theCore> strokey: i never heard this brand ... but anyway  lets try 2 fix it ;)
[03:56] <zcat[1] > I've tried to use ndiswrapeprs several times; most windows drivers I think don't follow the standard and do all kinds of funky system calls of their own just to make things work.
[03:56] <zcat[1] > .. which means they'll never work anywhere but windows
[03:56] <ctcecil> hopefully ill be back tonight?
[03:56] <strokey> theCore,ok
[03:56] <strokey> they have a site
[03:56] <strokey> www.yakumo.com
[03:57] <ctcecil> thanks for atleast trying psusi, gnomefreak
[03:57] <nickrud> ctcecil, put just the line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.list, do a sudo apt-get update, and try again.
[03:57] <theCore> strokey: is the brand of your computer, right ?
[03:58] <strokey> theCore
[03:58] <strokey> no
[03:58] <theCore> strokey: yakumo* is the brand of your computer, right ?
[03:58] <strokey> yakumo is the wireless USB stick i have
[03:58] <theCore> strokey: okay ... i see
[03:58] <strokey> ive given it the .inf file my install cd has
[03:58] <strokey> i just need to know what to do next ;o
[03:58] <theCore> strokey: i know what you must do
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> is the jabber.org server down?
[03:59] <brownie17> who will help me with basic stuff in KDE?
[04:00] <brownie17> someone bloody help me
[04:00] <atrophic> brownie17, ask your question
[04:00] <cheryl> hahahaha
[04:00] <brownie17> atrophic, i want to know how to change text size and stuff in KDE
[04:00] <theCore> strokey: do that in your term : cd /the_dir_you_put_the_wlan_drivers_into/
[04:00] <theCore> strokey: sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf (fill out your own drivers for bcmwl5.inf)
[04:01] <strokey> ive done that
[04:01] <theCore> strokey: sudo ndiswrapper -l (shows if the driver is installed)
[04:01] <atrophic> brownie17, I can't help you, I use gnome. Somebody should be able to answer the question though. Are you using kde on ubuntu?
[04:01] <cheryl> hello
[04:01] <theCore> strokey: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:01] <brownie17> atrophic, yes
[04:01] <theCore> strokey: sudo dmesg (shows that the card is installed (hopefully))
[04:02] <dr_willis> kde has a very well done 'font selection/windows perferances' tools.
[04:02] <matthew> iv'e downloaded the restricted format deb package (and installed it) - how do i stream asx files (which app do i use?)
[04:02] <theCore> strokey : do you follow ?
[04:02] <strokey> yuh
[04:02] <strokey> but im on windows
[04:02] <pppoe_dude> gnunet doesnt seem to be working for me
[04:02] <strokey> so im writing it down
[04:02] <brownie17> dr_willis, where?
[04:02] <theCore> strokey: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan (shows all APs surrounding you)
[04:02] <dr_willis> brownie17,  check their  perferances/control panel menu items.
[04:03] <pppoe_dude> whats a good anonymous p2p file sharing system other than gnunet?
[04:03] <theCore> strokey: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:03] <strokey> theCore: i have all that written down
[04:03] <pppoe_dude> maybe one that behaves well with firewalls/NAT
[04:03] <theCore> strokey: then configure your card with
[04:04] <zcat[1] > amule ?
[04:04] <Nino> wireless still isnt working can anyone coni
[04:04] <Nino> *can anyone confirm theintel 2200BG works with ununtu without needing to install anyting else?
[04:04] <pppoe_dude> zcat[1] , amule is slow (very)
[04:04] <cheryl> hehehehehehe
[04:04] <pppoe_dude> and i dont think its anonymous
[04:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to ubuntu@brokenladder.com ?
[04:04] <theCore> strokey: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid name_of_AP (the name you found by using iwlist wlan0 scan)
[04:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> i lost mine
[04:05] <theCore> strokey: iwconfig wlan0 enc <key> (fill out your WEP key (if you have one))
[04:05] <pppoe_dude> BROKEN_LADDER, y'd you get banned from #math?
[04:05] <ebrgy> hi..
[04:05] <theCore> strokey: sudo dhclient wlan0 (gets a dynamic IP adress)
[04:05] <ebrgy> hi..assl pls.
[04:05] <theCore> strokey: sudo ping -c 3 www.google.com (tests the connection)
[04:06] <ebrgy> hi..
[04:06] <theCore> strokey: that all
[04:06] <ebrgy> hi
[04:06] <ebrgy> hi..
[04:07] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5029
[04:07] <Bac9> tali: ping
[04:07] <theCore> strokey: if you need wpa follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31418&highlight=wpa
[04:07] <intmainvoid> Anyone want to help me? =D
[04:08] <strokey> theCore i cant view websites atm
[04:08] <strokey> :E
[04:08] <theCore> strokey : do you need wpa ?
[04:08] <strokey> wpa?
[04:09] <theCore> strokey : wpa encryption
[04:09] <mcadory> intmainvoid: just ask
[04:09] <strokey> i dont use encryption on my wireless network
[04:09] <dunstabulos> strokey: how is your wireless network protected?  does it use WEP or WPA or something else?
[04:09] <intmainvoid> mcadory:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5028   Why won't it draw?
[04:10] <Antioch> Is nexenta related to ubuntu at all_
[04:10] <strokey> dunstabulos: nothing
[04:11] <strokey> its just a router ;o
[04:11] <theCore> intmainvoid: it a quite tough question you should post it in a opengl newsgroup or something similiar
[04:11] <Nino> can i jump on the wireless bandwagon, intel pro 2200BG + unsecured network
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> 2
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> ruiop[
[04:11] <intmainvoid> theCore I tried that before and you were going to help me.
[04:11] <theCore> strokey: so your okay
[04:11] <strokey> so i do all that
[04:11] <strokey> and it should connect?
[04:11] <mcadory> intmainvoid: i agree with theCore
[04:12] <theCore> intmainvoid: I don't have the OpenGL dev libaries
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks dude bimberi
[04:12] <dunstabulos> strokey: yup
[04:12] <theCore> intmainvoid: so I can't compile it
[04:12] <zenlunatic_> whats a good nes emulator?
[04:12] <JonnyRo> Anyone here using the banshee player?  On my system banshee freezes up indefinately when loading an 8 gig folder for import
[04:13] <Nino> strokey what card do you have?
[04:13] <theCore> strokey: yep
[04:13] <kvantti> i have problems with the bittornado client..the opensuse torrent worked fine yeasterday but now the client tells me it can't listen
[04:13] <JonnyRo> i'm trying to figure out if i'm doing something wrong
[04:13] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: np :)
[04:13] <kvantti> zenlunatic zsnes
[04:13] <pppoe_dude> is jabber.org down?
[04:13] <zenlunatic_> kvantti: NES emulator
[04:13] <zenlunatic_> kvantti: not s
[04:13] <JonnyRo> pppoe_dude, i'm logged into it right now
[04:14] <drcode> any one have idea why after 10 min , static route I put is gone ?
[04:14] <strokey> Nino
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, my guess would be that dhclient3 is still running
[04:14] <intmainvoid> !huggggg
[04:14] <strokey> Yakumo QuickWLAN USB
[04:14] <ubotu> intmainvoid: I give up, what is it?
[04:14] <intmainvoid> (
[04:14] <intmainvoid> =(
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, and wiping it out every time it refreshes
[04:14] <Nino> ah right
[04:14] <drcode> I Have dhcpclient
[04:14] <drcode> it come by defult
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, you cant use static routes with dhcp
[04:14] <drcode> I See
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, at least not easily
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, just hardcode your ip address
[04:14] <adeen> does anyone know what bitdepth Breezy ships with by default, or how to find out?
[04:14] <drcode> I will uninstall it
[04:15] <drcode> I use static IP address
[04:15] <theCore> intmainvoid: see, even the bot give up
[04:15] <JonnyRo> drcode, no need to uninstall, just use static ip from the network control panel, then reboot
[04:15] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:15] <drcode> I have static IP address
[04:15] <drcode> not dhcp
[04:15] <adeen> sorry, display colour depth
[04:15] <intmainvoid> theCore:  I don't get it. It's exactly the same as the thing that I modded it from. all I got rid of was the extra functions. Lame
[04:15] <JonnyRo> drcode, if dhclient isnt running, then that's not why your static routes disappear
[04:16] <drcode> k
[04:16] <drcode> so any idea?
[04:16] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:16] <drcode> JonnyRo,  I can send what I installed
[04:16] <JonnyRo> drcode, just do this.  ps -A | grep dhclient
[04:16] <JonnyRo> drcode, if it's not running, then i have no idea why your routes are disappearing
[04:16] <dunstabulos> adeen look in your xorg.conf
[04:16] <drcode>  2974 ?        00:01:21 dhclient3
[04:16] <drcode> it is running
[04:16] <drcode> strange
[04:16] <RedRose> the shadow file houses the password, right?
[04:16] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:17] <dunstabulos> adeen: it should have a section on the display giving the colour depths
[04:17] <theCore> intmainvoid: can you compile the original
[04:17] <JonnyRo> drcode, yea, usually that wouldnt be running unless dhcp was configured in your ubuntu network control panel
[04:17] <drcode> I Use xfce
[04:17] <intmainvoid> theCore:   Yeah
[04:17] <RedRose> the shadow file houses the password, right?
[04:17] <intmainvoid> theCore: It draws and everything, tool.
[04:17] <drcode> is there gui in console that I can config network?
[04:17] <benguin> hello
[04:17] <drcode> so jonmasters U seggest to uninstall it ?
[04:17] <JonnyRo> drcode, there is a file called /etc/network/interfaces
[04:17] <Bac9> tali: ping
[04:17] <drcode> k
[04:18] <gar-1> !upgrade
[04:18] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:18] <JonnyRo> drcode, you have to configure that file in a text editor for static
[04:18] <theCore> intmainvoid: pastebin the original, I will try again
[04:18] <drcode> a min
[04:18] <JonnyRo> drcode, view the man page, by typing man interfaces
[04:18] <RedRose> the shadow file houses the password, right?
[04:18] <benguin> RedRose: it does, but encrypted
[04:18] <intmainvoid> theCore:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5030
[04:18] <pbransford> I enabled the root account... can I get ubuntu to stop asking MY password and ask for Root's instead?
[04:18] <benguin> anyone uses skype here?
[04:19] <drcode> k
[04:19] <JonnyRo> pbransford, have you set a different password for root already?
[04:19] <dunstabulos> pbransford: sudo visudo
[04:19] <nickrud> pbransford, no, sudo always uses the user's password
[04:19] <drcode> I Have this line
[04:19] <drcode> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:19] <Madpilot> pbransford: all the graphical tools are designed to be used w/ sudo
[04:19] <dunstabulos> lets you edit the sudoers file
[04:19] <pbransford> Yes, I set the root password
[04:19] <RedRose> benguin:i know it's encrypted, MD5 right?
[04:19] <drcode> to switch it to iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:19] <pbransford> I do not wish to use sudo at all if I can
[04:19] <drcode> to switch it to #iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:19] <theCore> intmainvoid: i will do my best
[04:20] <dunstabulos> pbransford: this may not be recommended, however
[04:20] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, you actually need to comment that line and add a few others, all the info you need is in the interfaces man page
[04:20] <gar-1> Zedugh: you there?
[04:20] <drcode> or this auto eth0
[04:20] <RedRose> benguin:i know it's encrypted, MD5 right?
[04:20] <Zedugh> gar-1, yup
[04:20] <nickrud> pbransford, then, use su, that will ask for your root password and give you a root login
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, see line 33 of the manual page
[04:20] <intmainvoid> theCore: Thanks..
[04:20] <benguin> RedRose: just checked, doesnt looklike md5
[04:20] <drcode> after that I can restart my interface with out reboot?
[04:20] <benguin> so, I'm really not sure
[04:20] <gar-1> Zedugh: i did the upgrade but the desktop dont come out after the reboot what can i do?
[04:20] <pbransford> nickrud, all the graphical tools ask for MY password. I don't want that.
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, probably yea
[04:20] <RedRose> then what does it look like?
[04:20] <psusi> RedRose, MD5 is a hash algorithm, not an encryption algorithm
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, but i havent done it before
[04:20] <gar-1> Zedugh: the X dont come out
[04:20] <drcode> how?
[04:20] <kcskyl> hi could anyone help me with installing a PDA software to my ubuntu?
[04:21] <kcskyl> thanks in advance!
[04:21] <RedRose> ah... so the password is hashed, then encrypted?
[04:21] <nickrud> pbransford, that's how sudo works.
[04:21] <gar-> Zedugh: any clue?
[04:21] <kcskyl> any help would be appreciated.
[04:21] <dunstabulos> pbransford: you can change membership of the wheel group
[04:21] <kcskyl> :)
[04:21] <Nikyo> I just installed a Yamaha PCI sound card, but Unbuntu 5.10 system still has no sound, is there a manual way to do this, please..
[04:22] <benguin> kcskyl: what pda and what software?
[04:22] <dunstabulos> pbransford: hence limiting the use of sudo
[04:22] <bimberi> s/wheel/admin/
[04:22] <drcode> k
[04:22] <drcode> thanx alot
[04:22] <RedRose> benguin: ah... so the password is hashed, then encrypted?
[04:22] <Zedugh> gar-, login to the console, and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:22] <drcode> I Will do reboot after
[04:22] <JonnyRo> drcode, good luck
[04:22] <tawy> is there aplace where i can get help with setting up mynetwork? laptop>wrt54g->dsl modem-> net...  ?
[04:22] <dunstabulos> bimberi: ty
[04:22] <benguin> RedRose: I know its encrypted, but not all the details; sorry
[04:22] <gar-> ok and them i tell u
[04:22] <bimberi> dunstabulos: np (an ubuntu difference) :)
[04:22] <dunstabulos> bimberi: will teach me to type without thinking
[04:22] <RedRose> benguin:It's Ok, Ty for the help...
[04:22] <drcode> oopsss..
[04:22] <drcode> I forget
[04:22] <drcode> this is my internet card
[04:22] <intmainvoid> Shit, I have to go. See you later. theCore: Uhm..I'll only be gone for a couple..hours...?
[04:23] <dunstabulos> bimberi: i mostly use debian, but some ubuntu also
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, sorry 'bout the late response
[04:23] <intmainvoid> See you
[04:23] <drcode> so I MAST use DHCP
[04:23] <bimberi> dunstabulos: ah :)
[04:23] <drcode> I Am in cable modem
[04:23] <atrophic> tawy, what part do you need help with?
[04:23] <thompa> i noticed my game sound works if i type killall esd, do i need this?
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, went to go get my PDA...it's a tungsten E plam
[04:23] <benguin> RedRose: you;re welcome
[04:23] <drcode> so in dhcpclient I can fix static route?
[04:23] <theCore> intmainvoid: no prob
[04:23] <benguin> kcskyl: have the same thingy here
[04:23] <gar-> Zedugh: how do i open that dont have to be gedit? in console?
[04:23] <bimberi> pbransford: who is "they"
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, awesome!
[04:23] <nickrud> thompa, that's a pretty common solution for playing games
[04:23] <pbransford> if i removed myself from wheel, I can still "su" right? and what will those graphical toosl do? just plain out not work?
[04:23] <tawy> atrophic, im having issues getthing the outside workd to see my router so i can log in remotely.,.. i think i might have something misconfigured.
[04:23] <Zedugh> gar-, try 'less <filename>'
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, it's an awesome PDA...just can't install it to my computer...
[04:23] <gar-> ok
[04:23] <pbransford> bimberi, anyone but me... call me paranoid :)
[04:24] <nickrud> pbransford, yes, and yes
[04:24] <whitynz> Anyone had any luck in resizing a reiserFS partition?
[04:24] <tawy> atrophic, http://69.58.15.201:8080 (but people are saying its not accessivbe) is?
[04:24] <benguin> kcskyl: whats up?
[04:24] <thompa> nickrud: does esd need to be running?
[04:24] <drcode> ./join #ipatables
[04:24] <benguin> kcskyl: what errors?
[04:24] <kcskyl> benguin, can you tell me how you installed it?
[04:24] <RedRose> Does Anyone Know What Kind Of Encryption The Shadow File Uses?
[04:24] <kcskyl> benguin, I have no idea where to start...
[04:24] <kcskyl> benguin, i though the install program would run automatically...
[04:24] <nickrud> thompa, it depends on the game :) a sec, I'll give you a link that makes esd play more nicely with non-gnome apps
[04:25] <Nikyo> Unbuntu 5.10, Yamaha PCI Sound Card, is there a app to make this work, please..
[04:25] <drcode> how I can use static route add and dhcpclient in one interface
[04:25] <pbransford> Is there any way to get my system to use something else, like blowfish, for password hashes?
[04:25] <mcadory> kcskyl: system>preferences>palmosdevices
[04:25] <kcskyl> mcadory, oh okay
[04:25] <benguin> kcskyl, yup.. mcadory has it
[04:25] <navarone> drcode> i think oyu missed your stop
[04:25] <thompa> nickrud: ok thanks,
[04:25] <atrophic> tawy, check your pm?
[04:25] <zenlunatic_> whats a good NES emulator?
[04:26] <benguin> kcskyl, the device is usually /dev/ttyUSB1
[04:26] <whitynz> nickrud, have you got it selected in your sound properties?
[04:26] <JonnyRo> pbransford, any specific reason you would want to use blowfish?
[04:26] <nickrud> thompa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary , the "general fix" ; this works on breezy as well
[04:26] <kcskyl> benguin, can you tell me what you mean by that?
[04:26] <thompa> nickrud: thanks
[04:26] <RedRose> Does Anyone Know What Kind Of Encryption The Shadow File Uses?
[04:26] <JonnyRo> pbransford, if your wanting to up the paranoia level, just go straight to kerberos
[04:26] <benguin> kcskyl, proceed with the tool and you'll know:)
[04:26] <kcskyl> mcadory, i've actually tried that before...and didn't seem to get anything except an empty folder
[04:26] <JonnyRo> pbransford, besides, blowfish is an encryption algorithm, not a hash tool
[04:26] <jesse_cool5> zenlunatic_, try zsnes ive used it before
[04:26] <benguin> bbl
[04:27] <zcat[1] > hmm. where is w32codecs ?
[04:27] <Howdy125> dvdrip
[04:27] <navarone> mmmm...hash tool
[04:27] <zenlunatic_> jesse_cool5: it works for nes games (not talking about snes games)
[04:27] <JonnyRo> zcat[1] , you'll have to download those from mplayerhq.hu, they arent in any repository
[04:27] <Madpilot> !tell zcat[1]  about w32codecs
[04:27] <RedRose> navarone:?
[04:27] <zcat[1] > they used to be :(
[04:27] <jesse_cool5> zenlunatic_, oh my mistake
[04:27] <pbransford> kerberos is broken... not safe to use
[04:27] <mcadory> kcskyl: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77387.html
[04:28] <navarone> Redrose> I'll see your "?" and raise a "!"
[04:28] <JonnyRo> pbransford, which version of kerberos do you consider broken?
[04:28] <pbransford> JonnyRo, not to spoil your fun... but SuSE 10 defaults to using blowfish for passwords...
[04:28] <jesse_cool5> zenlunatic_, have you tryed TuxNES?
[04:28] <JonnyRo> pbransford, does it use a sitewide key to do this?
[04:28] <pbransford> not sure
[04:29] <JonnyRo> pbransford, i stand corrected.  I didnt know blowfish could be used to generate a hash
[04:29] <kcskyl> mcadory, did you get all the software to run okay on your ubuntu?
[04:29] <kcskyl> mcadory, all the PDA software, i mean
[04:29] <pbransford> JonnyRo, im not sure how its done, but it lets me choose "MD5", the other common hash (forgot) and Blowfish
[04:29] <navarone> is png the atandard format for gnome desktop backgrounds?
[04:30] <pbransford> navarone, yea but jpgs and bmps draw fine in my experience
[04:30] <zcat[1] > didn't w32codecs and libdvdcss use to be in multiverse?
[04:30] <bimberi> pbransford: sorry, got called away, I just want to make sure that you know that sudo only works for the account created during install, other users don't get it by default
[04:30] <JonnyRo> zcat[1] , yea
[04:30] <JonnyRo> zcat[1] , or backports, i cant remember
[04:30] <navarone> phramford> as long they are proper resolution...??
[04:30] <nickrud> hoary backports, for a while
[04:30] <pbransford> bimberi, thats fine but still...
[04:30] <pbransford> oh well
[04:30] <pbransford> :D
[04:31] <mcadory> kcskyl: yup and with an old school palm iiix.  so i know it should work for you.  you probably need to read that link i just pasted.
[04:31] <pbransford> well, set my repos to breezy, now all i need is a good 2-3 hours to download it all
[04:31] <jesse_cool5> is there any good software to help me learn italian?
[04:32] <zcat[1] > and another three hours to answer 'N' whe it wants to replace all your old config
[04:32] <kcskyl> mcadory, oh okay.  Thanks!
[04:32] <nickrud> pbransford, I was just thinking, and you might be able to change the .desktop's for the admin guis to gksu. Might be some gotchas there, tho
[04:33] <pbransford> any way to force a refresh of my power source? i plugged in the AC about 10 minutes ago and everything thinks im still on battery
[04:33] <zcat[1] > dist-upgrade is slow and painful. I think it'd have been easier to backup my /home and do a clean install
[04:34] <GigaClon> can I get some in finding out what device is my modem
[04:34] <AceB747> anyone know why ubuntu locks up right after it installs grub?
[04:34] <kcskyl> mcadory, for some reason, i'm not seeing the option for /dev/ttyUSB1...all i see are /dev/pilot and /dev/ttyS0...can you tell me why this is the case?
[04:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> check this out ya'll..hilarious http://www.artcurry.com/Media/Video/Finals/SSA%20Final.avi
[04:35] <whitynz> Anyone had any luck in resizing a reiserFS partition?
[04:35] <kvantti> just how do i run azureus..the command azureus in the dir does nothing..do i need to chmod +x something?
[04:35] <gteppel> This may sound like a silly question, but I don't know much about wifi techonlogy. Is it possible to connect to a wireless device that is using wifi? For example my wired box is connect to a wirless router that has four wired connections also. My wife has her ibook and I'd like to connect to it from my wired desktop. Is this even possible?
[04:35] <GigaClon> kvantti, it should have made a menu entry
[04:36] <AceB747> kvanti, go in the azuerus director and type ./azuerus
[04:36] <kvantti> cool i got it now
[04:36] <kvantti> GigaClon had to run it from the gui
[04:36] <zcat[1] > gteppel: should be; just find out what IP the laptop got given.. wired and wireless are all just IP connections..
[04:36] <kcskyl> mcadory, i read over the website you gave me, and i think i could follow all the directions except i'm not seeing the option /dev/ttyUSB1 for some reason...  thanks for helping me with this, i'm a complete computer illiterate
[04:37] <AceB747> has anyone else besides me had problems with the intall locking up?
[04:37] <benoy> hi everyone
[04:37] <benoy> can anyone tell me how I can get the latest codecs for totem or vlc?
[04:38] <misguided> hey folks...
[04:38] <zcat[1] > AceB747: have installed Breezy on about five different boxes so far, never had it lock up yet.. so 'no'
[04:38] <intelikey> !tell benoy about codecs
[04:39] <misguided> question:  is there a way to disable hotplug on the live cd?  "live nohotplug" doesn't work for some reason
[04:39] <kvantti> GigaClon very nice software in linux too. the bittornado failed in downloading, azureus works
[04:39] <zcat[1] > codecs: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:39] <jesse_cool5> benoy, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[04:39] <GigaClon> can i get help getting my modem detected and dialing
[04:39] <AceB747> zcat, i wonder what the problem is with the install then
[04:39] <kcskyl> mcadory, are you still there?
[04:39] <intelikey> GigaClon what kind of modem ?
[04:39] <zcat[1] > where's it hang?
[04:40] <mcadory> kcskyl: run "ls /dev/USB*" in a terminal while the device is plugged into the usb port and the palm is in the cradle.
[04:40] <pbransford> wtf! 'cat'ing /proc/acpi/... tells me that my battery is discharging, and ac is offline...
[04:40] <pbransford> but the lights on the laptop say my battery is charging...
[04:40] <kcskyl> mcadory, oh okay
[04:40] <pbransford> tried to restart both acpid and acpi-support in /etc/init.d but no change
[04:40] <GigaClon> don't have the exact name its a Conexant modem that came with my Dell Inspiron 5100
[04:41] <kvantti> btw, does gnome have a start menu folder like windows?
[04:41] <kcskyl> mcadory, it says "ls: /dev/USB*: No such file or directory"
[04:41] <benoy> I know that there is a starter guide for ubuntu ver. 5.04 is there one for 5.10
[04:41] <benoy> ?
[04:41] <paladinew> when I log into a failsafe gnome session, how do I get back into the normal GUI when I'm done?  What command do I type ?
[04:41] <mcadory> kcskyl: sorry: run "ls /dev/ttyUSB*" in a terminal while the device is plugged into the usb port and the palm is in the cradle.
[04:41] <kvantti> benoy just try installing your hardware and proceed to software installation .. worked fine for me as a tutorial
[04:42] <kvantti> benoy but then again, i have excellent kinetic learning skills
[04:42] <kcskyl> mcadory, it gave me an arrow ">"
[04:42] <mcadory> kcskyl: no quotes.
[04:42] <kcskyl> mcadory: right :)
[04:42] <benoy> are you talking about "add applications"? kvantti
[04:42] <benoy> ?
[04:43] <kcskyl> mcadory, same error...no such file or directory
[04:43] <mcadory> kcskyl: device powered up?
[04:43] <jesse_cool5> how does ubuntu go about writing to a ntfs partition? still ruin it most of the time?
[04:43] <GigaClon> is there a way to make my lcd turn off on lid close
[04:43] <misguided> does anybody know about hotplug???
[04:43] <kcskyl> yup
[04:43] <kcskyl> mcadory, yup
[04:43] <kcskyl> mcadory, i put it in hotsync,
[04:43] <mcadory> kcskyl: jsut a sec.
[04:44] <kcskyl> mcadory, and then typed that command in and got "/dev/ttyUSB0" and "/dev/ttyUSB1"
[04:44] <GigaClon> nm found the wiki page
[04:44] <kcskyl> mcadory, sorry...should've done that before
[04:44] <zcat[1] > about hotplug: if you unplug a USB sound device while it's playing, Breezy gives you quite an impressive Oops! and you have to reboot before USB will work again.
[04:44] <paladinew> what is the command to get back into default session when I'm logged into a failsafe terminal ??
[04:44] <nickrud> benoy, the help tool has the faqguide/starter guide
[04:44] <zcat[1] > .. found that out yesterday :)
[04:44] <misguided> i need to know how to disable hotplug on boot of a live cd...
[04:45] <pbransford> stupid HP. cant even conform to acpi
[04:45] <mcadory> kcskyl: one of those is the device node you need to point gnomepilot to in order to sync.
[04:45] <nickrud> paladinew, just type exit in the terminal, it should take you back to the login screen
[04:45] <intelikey> zcat[1]  file a bug on that.
[04:46] <kcskyl> mcadory: can you walk me through that?  have no idea how to do that
[04:46] <paladinew> nickrud: what about when I first turn my pc on and it goes directly to a failsafe terminal ?
[04:46] <kcskyl> mcadory, sorry for being such a pain
[04:46] <jesse_cool5> how does ubuntu go about writing to a ntfs partition? still ruin it most of the time?
[04:46] <nickrud> paladinew, then you probably have other problems
[04:46] <zcat[1] > I probably should.. but I have bigger bugs to fry first.. mplayer's streaming is broken still..
[04:46] <mcadory> kcskyl: no prob. try lsusb
[04:46] <melodramatic>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Honneur
[04:46] <melodramatic> lol
[04:46] <melodramatic> god damn
[04:46] <kvantti> benoy oh yeah forgot that
[04:46] <strokey> theCore
[04:46] <AceB747> how can i lsmod to find my ethernet card driver?
[04:46] <strokey> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper made my ubuntu -really- laggy
[04:47] <jesse_cool5> melodramatic, lol hopefully you change that now
[04:47] <kvantti> benoy i mean how do i add a link to the start menu
[04:47] <melodramatic> sure ;)
[04:47] <paladinew> nickrud: do you know if there is a command to bring up the GUI prompt ?
[04:47] <intelikey> misguided i'm not sure you can but you could kill it as soon as the boot process is finished
[04:47] <kcskyl> mcadory: thanks!  i did that and got "Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000"
[04:47] <strokey> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan , said my thing doesent support scan
[04:47] <kvantti> benoy not how do i add, i use synaptic
[04:47] <strokey> sudo ndiswrapper -l said the device was instaled
[04:47] <strokey> :|
[04:47] <nickrud> paladinew, does typing exit get you back to the login screen?
[04:47] <plb> hrm is totem-xine able to play bin/cue files (vcd) without mounting like mplayer
[04:47] <kvantti> benoy got that too
[04:47] <paladinew> nickrud: testing, brb
[04:47] <misguided> intelikey: "starting hotplug subsystem" stalls.
[04:48] <mcadory> kcskyl: now point gnomepilot to that device.
[04:48] <kcskyl> mcadory: ?
[04:48] <kcskyl> mcadory:  sorry...
[04:48] <zcat[1] > does ubotu know anything about libdvdcss? how would I ask?
[04:49] <theCore> strokey: yes ?
[04:49] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh
[04:50] <strokey> read up theCore
[04:50] <ale3hs> I want to install SKYPE .. so if I download the rpm package for Debian how I install it in Ubuntu??
[04:50] <Yodabunny> hello
[04:50] <zcat[1] > a google search has lead me to the "penguin liberation front" -- I also managed to stumble on Jon Johansen's blog along the way, not surprisingly :)
[04:50] <Yodabunny> how do I tell X I'm switching video cards in Ubuntu?
[04:50] <theCore> strokey: read up ?
[04:51] <bimberi> ale3hs: are you running breezy?
[04:51] <intelikey> misguided yeah i have a box with on usb and every *nix that boots by default does that,  but if i wait until it has error looped through all the ram it crashes that process and continues boot as normal.   takes longer with more ram and more swap space.   only about 11 minutes here.    well long story short, after i install i always have to edit /etc/init.d/usb so that it doesn't do that. misguided
[04:51] <Yodabunny> Just tried it and it wouldn't start X
[04:51] <theCore> strokey: ok I catched
[04:51] <zcat[1] > http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - for stuff like dvdcss, someone tell ubutu about it?
[04:51] <ale3hs> bimberi, yes
[04:51] <nickrud> ale3hs, don't use the debian one, use the one ubotu just messaged you about
[04:51] <kcskyl> mcadory: can you tell me how i could point the gnomepilot to that device?
[04:51] <bimberi> ale3hs: breezy packages for skype are available via http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:51] <mcadory> kcskyl:  run the system>preferences>palmosdevices.  that is the gnomepilot wizard to setup the device for your palm and you just determined the device to use.  read that link i sent earlier.  it explains all of this.
[04:51] <ale3hs> nickrud, thanx
[04:51] <kvantti> it seems that icons are png's but what are the properties for the file that need to apply
[04:51] <kvantti> meaning, size, color depth
[04:52] <ale3hs> thanx bimberi 2
[04:52] <kvantti> the azureus icon file found in the dir is not accepted as icon..it is png though
[04:52] <theCore> strokey: I lost the post from the history , so you will need rewrite it
[04:52] <zcat[1] > don't use skype!! use gizmo (gizmoproject.org) it's heaps better!
[04:52] <IcemanV9> is seveas.ubuntulinux.nl = backports?? if not, then what it is?
[04:52] <strokey> k
[04:52] <zcat[1] > sorry, that might be gizmoproject.com..
[04:53] <Madpilot> !backports
[04:53] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[04:53] <Madpilot> IcemanV9: see ubotu ^^^
[04:53] <intelikey> misguided you could try adding ' hotplug=0 '  to the boot command.  but it probably wont help either....
[04:53] <muszek> hi, I rebooted to make new kernel version work and it won't boot (I'm on a liveCD now).  It says that disk hdd 2,0 doesn't exist...
[04:53] <muszek> could anyone please help me?
[04:53] <misguided> intelikey: yeah, i tried 'nohotplug' and it had no effect
[04:54] <muszek> I remember having to mess a tiny bit with grub after moving to breezy
[04:54] <evilX> i need help
[04:54] <evilX>  how emule a program of windows in my ubuntu
[04:54] <IcemanV9> thks Madpilot, but what's seveas.ubuntulinux.nl as well?
[04:55] <zenlunatic_> i keep adding universe to my repositories in synaptic but it doesn't add it.  for example i go back in synaptic and universe isn't showed up.  why?
[04:55] <nickrud> Madpilot, do you know if backports are going thru ftpmasters this time?
[04:55] <Madpilot> IcemanV9: I think it's a collection of misc. stuff
[04:55] <evilX>  how emule a program of windows in my ubuntu ??
[04:55] <N6REJ> Madpilot, I have a question... my son inadvertently hooked up the printers to the main server instead of the "workstation" that is going to be the print server.  Now the server knows all about the printers.  Am I going to mess anything up by swapping them back where they belong while the server is up?  And what will I need to fix?
[04:55] <kcskyl> mcadory: i think i see what you mean, but the /dev/ttyUSB1 still does not show up under Port in the gnomepilot...
[04:56] <Tedd> Q: Fonts. Where can I install them/can I install the same ones in Linux as Windows?
[04:56] <Madpilot> N6REJ: i've never done any Linux network or printer stuff, sorry...
[04:56] <Topslakr> i did a 5.10 server isntall, installed kubuntu-desktop and then tightvncserver. It fails to start with an error about font fixed not being found. the xfonts pkgs are installed... any ideas?
[04:56] <IcemanV9> k, thks again :)
[04:57] <kcskyl> mcadory: all i see are "/dev/pilot" , "/dev/ttyS0", "/devttyS1" , ...
[04:57] <Tedd> Anybody know about linux fonts?
[04:57] <N6REJ> Madpilot, ok, last q for now.... I know I"m supposed to have sound in Xchat but it doesn't have any sounds... is there some package I need to install?  I hear the bootup sound
[04:57] <kcskyl> mcadory: oh, and "/dev/ttyqe"
[04:57] <mcadory> kcskyl: you can type it in.
[04:57] <Madpilot> !tell Tedd about fonts
[04:57] <Madpilot> N6REJ: I don't use XChat either ;)
[04:57] <nickrud> Tedd, you can take the fonts directly from windows, and drop them in /usr/local/share/fonts, or the .fonts directory in your home
[04:57] <Tedd> God, that's a handy function.
[04:57] <Tedd> nickrud: Thanks.
[04:58] <Topslakr> but what do  you do if ubuntu can't find font fixed?
[04:58] <N6REJ> well poop LOL
[04:58] <evilX> Q: how i do to run a program of windows in my ubuntu ??
[04:58] <zenlunatic_> my repositories wont' update
[04:58] <Bicchi> i need a program that was modified a few days ago and the latest version is not on the ubuntu repositories. Is there a workaround this problem.
[04:58] <intelikey> !tell evilX about wine
[04:58] <N6REJ> nickrud, nice to know that...
[04:59] <evilX> tnx :)
[04:59] <zcat[1] > Bicchi: install from cvs ?
[05:00] <nickrud> Tedd, N6REJ you may also need to run sudo fc-cache, or open the fonts preference dialog for the new fonts to register.
[05:00] <muszek> bye
[05:00] <iamkirk> guys , i have "cedega.deb" on desktop... what do i type in a terminal to install it ?
[05:00] <zcat[1] > kids these days; when I first started on linux, we had to unpack and compile -everything- !!
[05:00] <moo> dpkg -i cedega.deb
[05:00] <jsgotangco> sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb
[05:00] <kcskyl> mcadory: could you tell me how you know if the PDA's been installed?  thanks!
[05:01] <Bicchi> zcat[1] : but does that affect in any way apt-get and what it thinks its the latest version
[05:01] <Tedd> nickrud: When I tried to extract it said I don't have permissions.
[05:01] <zcat[1] > Yeah, it'll break what apt knows abouit. apt-get remove the old one first I guess
[05:01] <mcadory> kcskyl: sync up.
[05:01] <Tedd> Would the sudo fc-cache fix that problem?
[05:01] <nickrud> Tedd, you mean into /usr/local/fonts?
[05:01] <mcadory> kcskyl: try some sample data.
[05:02] <nickrud> Tedd, you mean into /usr/local/share/fonts?
[05:02] <Tedd> Yeah.
[05:02] <nickrud> Tedd, you need to use sudo to copy into that dir
[05:02] <Tedd> Can I extract them somewhere else and it would work?
[05:02] <N6REJ> nickrud, I have an interesting little problem with one of my partitions in ubuntu.  I have my windows drive partitioned off into several drives much like I do with linux.  the thing is it "mounts" '/windows/C' but does not mount '/windows/D'  says something about a bad filesystem and that perhaps its an extended partition.
[05:02] <Tedd> No clue what that means, sorry.
[05:02] <nickrud> Tedd, yes, you can put them into $HOME/.fonts
[05:02] <Madpilot> Tedd: just create a dir called .fonts
[05:02] <Tedd> OK.
[05:03] <theCore> strokey: so what you wanted ?
[05:03] <zcat[1] > N6REJ: you probably want /dev/hdb5 rather than /dev/hdb2
[05:03] <Tedd> Madpilot: It would work, eh?
[05:03] <nickrud> N6REJ, I know little about partitioning, and next to nothing about windows partitions
[05:03] <Madpilot> Tedd: the bot should have sent you a msg w/ a URL - the URL goes thru the whole deal w/ adding fonts
[05:03] <Tedd> It did. Sorry. I forgot about it.
[05:03] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , how'd you see that?
[05:03] <Madpilot> Tedd: yes, $HOME/.fonts works
[05:03] <Tedd> I just copied them, let me ttry them out in GIMP.
[05:03] <kcskyl> mcadory: shouldn't i be seeing what's in my PDA in the MyPilot folder?
[05:03] <iamkirk> kirk@UbuntuBox:~$ sudo dpkg -i cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb
[05:03] <iamkirk> dpkg: error processing cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb (--install):
[05:03] <iamkirk>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:03] <iamkirk> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:03] <iamkirk>  cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb
[05:04] <zenlunatic_> synaptic won't add repositories
[05:04] <zcat[1] > 'or something like that'
[05:04] <strokey> theCore: can we pm? this is hard with all the chatting?
[05:04] <kcskyl> mcadory: i my PDA says that the "HotSync operation is complete", but nothing seems to be inside my MyPilot/del folder or even in the /MyPilot folder
[05:04] <zcat[1] > whatever the drive is, if '2' is an extended partition then '5' will probably be a real partition inside it
[05:04] <zcat[1] > fidks -l /dev/hdb will tell you where the yall are
[05:04] <nickrud> iamkirk, is cedega.deb in the directory you're running dpkg in?
[05:05] <zcat[1] > s/hdb/hdwhatever
[05:05] <iamkirk> no , its on the desktop
[05:05] <mcadory> kcskyl: did you set up the conduits correctly?
[05:06] <jesse_cool5> with game how do you set your own display picture?
[05:06] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , look here please ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5031
[05:06] <jesse_cool5> gaim*
[05:06] <kapputu> what's the emacs package name?
[05:08] <nickrud> iamkirk, then, dpkg -i ~/Desktop/cdega....
[05:08] <Bac9> tali: ping
[05:08] <zcat[1] > N6REJ: can you paste "fdisk -l /dev/hda" for me.. or just change /dev/hda2 to /dev/hda5 and I bet it'll work :)
[05:08] <kcskyl> mcadory: i'm pretty sure i did, but no file is showing up yet
[05:08] <iamkirk> ok , thanks a lot
[05:08] <iamkirk> when i finish updating ill try that
[05:09] <psusi> is there somewhere else to report bugs with dapper or just use bugzilla?
[05:09] <kcskyl> mcadory: i set all of them up as "Copy from pilot", and i have alot of stuff in my pilot at the moment
[05:09] <yuma> hello
[05:09] <kapputu> what's the emacs package name?
[05:09] <zenlunatic_> is there a universe and multiverse in ubuntu?
[05:09] <nickrud> Topslakr, it's been a while, but I think you need to go to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, and sudo mkfontdir . You may need to restart X
[05:09] <IcemanV9> yes zenlunatic_
[05:09] <Tedd> madpilot, nickrud: thanks. I got it working.
[05:09] <tritium> No dock sockasm in the clossroom...
[05:09] <zenlunatic_> i mean is there a universe and multiverse in breezy
[05:09] <N6REJ> zcat[1] ,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5032
[05:09] <Tedd> Tritium: Absolutely.
[05:09] <tritium> Tedd, heh
[05:09] <Tedd> Pink Floyd is somewhere between Jimi Hendrix and Jesus.
[05:10] <tritium> :)
[05:10] <yuma> can i add some tcl so if someone private message to me the tabs can flash
[05:10] <Tedd> In fact, they're right between. There's really not that much of a middle-ground there.
[05:10] <yuma> like mirc
[05:10] <mcadory> kcskyl: i don't have my palm set up my machine here. it's at work. so I can't remember what is in the MyPilot folder.  try googleing for futher help.  sorry
[05:10] <Tedd> Well, guys, I'll see you around. Who knows, maybe I'll idle here later! To your dismay of course.
[05:10] <Tedd> Thanks for all the help.
[05:10] <Tedd> Later.
[05:10] <tritium> See you Tedd
[05:10] <Em`Zee> Hmm
[05:11] <Tedd> Lates, Tritium. You'll see me around sometime.
[05:11] <zenlunatic_> IcemanV9: then why won't it add those repositories for me?
[05:11] <zcat[1] > /dev/hda5           12837       13152     2538238+   7  HPFS/NTFS  <- this is your windows D: ..
[05:11] <tritium> Good deal.
[05:11] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , ok, cool.. I'll change it .. brb.
[05:11] <Tedd> ...I'm still here?
[05:11] <Tedd> .........I closed the connection window.....
[05:11] <Tedd> Well hot damn, that's pretty handy!
[05:11] <Tedd> ...to gamesurge!
[05:12] <IcemanV9> zenlunatic_: you'll have to modify /etc/apt/source.list to get it
[05:12] <zcat[1] > I think.. anyhow. perhaps not..
[05:12] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , will I need to reboot?
[05:12] <IcemanV9> !tell zenlunatic_ about repos
[05:12] <\\char> zenlunatic... there's also another way you can add them using synaptic... easier than editing source.list (i'm a newbie, in case you can't tell)
[05:13] <kapputu> how do I find how much free space I have?
[05:13] <Topslakr> df
[05:13] <N6REJ> kapputu,  sudo df -h
[05:13] <zcat[1] > hmm.. D: will be one of /dev/hda3 or /dev/hda5 I think.. your partitioning is a bit of a mess :)
[05:14] <kcskyl> mcadory: thanks alot for your help thus far...i had no previous knowledge about pointing the gnomepilot to the /dev/ttyUSB0 before...i wouldn't have been able to figure that out on my own...
[05:14] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , sorry.
[05:14] <N6REJ> I changed /etc/fstab to 5 and then mount -a and it complained.
[05:14] <mcadory> kcskyl: welcome.  happy googling.
[05:15] <Em`Zee> Hey, does anyone know how I can write a beep character into a terminal command?
[05:15] <Em`Zee> Control+G does nothing
[05:15] <zcat[1] > yeah, probably try /dev/hda3
[05:15] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , k
[05:15] <zcat[1] > not sure what hda5 is, it looks quite small
[05:17] <kcskyl> mcadory: i just got my memo to download to my computer!  yey!
[05:17] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , its 3.  5 is my windows "temp" drive.
[05:18] <zcat[1] > Em`Zee: echo -en "\007"  I think (or was it -En ?)
[05:18] <Em`Zee> /echo -en "\007"
[05:18] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , its complaining about /dev/hda4 not /windows/D
[05:18] <Em`Zee> hmm
[05:18] <SuperID> I'm trying to compile a prog that needs Qt headers and libraries.   I can't find the right package to install.  google leads me to think that it is qt-devel but I can't find that
[05:19] <Em`Zee> zcat[1] ; I'm trying to put it into a sed string
[05:19] <mcadory> kc: cool.  then it is working.  keep experimenting and you'll get it all together.  remember to read up first and ask for clarification once you get stuck.
[05:19] <nalioth_zZz> SuperID: search in synaptic for libqt*-dev
[05:19] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5033
[05:19] <zcat[1] > /dev/hda4 isn't a partition
[05:20] <zcat[1] > sorry, it's not somewhere you can put a filesystem..
[05:20] <kapputu> hhow do I improve performance on a PIII - 850 with 256MB RAM
[05:20] <benplaut> how do i check whether or not dma is enabled on a cd drive?
[05:20] <kapputu> GUI is extremely slow
[05:20] <Em`Zee> kapputu; Don't use X =P
[05:20] <kapputu> Em`Zee, I mean with Ubuntu
[05:20] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , /dev/hda4       /dos            vfat    quiet           0       0
[05:20] <kapputu> XP was definitely faster than this
[05:20] <kapputu> Warty was fast too
[05:21] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , is it setup wrong or something?
[05:21] <Em`Zee> How big is your swap?
[05:21] <pluffsy> hello
[05:21] <kapputu> it became slow after I upgraded to hoary
[05:21] <subterrific> .who
[05:21] <zcat[1] > N6REJ: yes, there's no filesystem on /dev/hda4, it's a partition that only holds other partitions..
[05:21] <Em`Zee> kapputu; Did you repartition?
[05:21] <pluffsy> My email account only holds 30MB but I would like to have access to all my email from a server. Can I somehow relay the emails from the 30MB server to my own ubuntu server?
[05:22] <kapputu> Em`Zee, no I installed it on my primary partition
[05:22] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , then I've got it named or built wrong.  Let me reboot into windows so I can see what I was thinking.
[05:22] <kapputu> there is no Windows
[05:22] <versipolis> kapputu, install fluxbox or xfce4
[05:22] <kapputu> I think the swap is between 512 - 640
[05:22] <kapputu> I forget exactly
[05:22] <Em`Zee> Mmmm xfce.
[05:22] <zcat[1] > nah, leave windows. Windows will have no idea where the partitons are
[05:22] <Jestre> pluffsy: Check out fetchmail
[05:23] <mahangu> kapputu, xfce4++
[05:23] <kapputu> versipolis, what's the point? I like Gnome
[05:23] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , ok... I THINK I built that partition for dos games
[05:23] <N6REJ> either that or samba share
[05:23] <pluffsy> Jestre: Hmm I'm an idiot. I'm just reading the kathedral and the baazar. I should have thought of that :)
[05:23] <kapputu> can I install it using apt?
[05:23] <pluffsy> Jestre: and thanks
[05:23] <Jestre> pluffsy: Absolutely :)
[05:23] <Jestre> On both accounts
[05:23] <pluffsy> hehe
[05:23] <mahangu> how can I tell evolution not to d/l attachments?
[05:24] <zcat[1] > you have one "vfat" partition which is /dev/hda2, and two in Windows XP which are /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda3 -- I gather /dev/hda5 is your windows swap?
[05:24] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , yes.
[05:24] <kapputu> and how do I free up space??
[05:24] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , don't really want to mount that.
[05:24] <zcat[1] > ok.. actually there's a nice script that will find them all for you :)
[05:24] <N6REJ> k
[05:25] <N6REJ> brb kids are going crazy
[05:25] <versipolis> kapputu, youre ram- processor poor u could cut out gdm and few other apps but in the end youre still using gnome on a piii with 256mb ram..
[05:25] <zcat[1] > can't remember the url anyhow.. someone else here will know it :)
[05:26] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , what does the script do?  maybe I can google it?
[05:26] <mahangu> anybody ever got gmailpop setup on thunderbird?
[05:26] <zcat[1] > finds all your windows partitions and sets them up properly for linux ..
[05:27] <N6REJ> oh ic... ok.. ty.
[05:27] <versipolis> kapputu, btw those are the specs on my desktop I use fluxbox and have a cheap video card runs great
[05:27] <nickrud> kapputu, there's a few tricks ... one is to run gconf-editor and look for /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources, and check it
[05:28] <IcemanV9> versipolis: you just installed server and then install fluxbox later?
[05:28] <nickrud> kapputu, another is /apps/panel/global/enable_animations, and uncheck it
[05:28] <IcemanV9> i have an old box that i could try with fluxbox :)
[05:29] <moo> anyone know how to exempt programs from being skinned by the WM when using wine/cedega?
[05:29] <versipolis> IcemanV9, that would have been the smart thing to do but I just had to see the new gnome. I just removed gdm from init.d and now do the old startx at bootup
[05:29] <nickrud> kapputu, and, the best one is, is add some memory :)
[05:29] <IcemanV9> versipolis: ah. alright.
[05:30] <SuperID> nalioth_zZz,  you were exactly right (plus I needed the mt libs/headers) ... thx
[05:30] <kapputu> nickrud, hmm why don't I have to do this for XP?
[05:30] <kapputu> and why was it good with Warty?
[05:31] <MrTallen> hi, can anyone tell me how to get my mouse 'thumb' (button 2) to make FireFox go 'back' (to last page same as the 'backspace' key) ?
[05:31] <nickrud> kapputu, I personally find breezy's gnome faster now than hoary's, and didn't run warty. XP, I have no opinion on since I run it once a month or so
[05:32] <synackuator> can anyone tell me what exactly the LVM partition (installer) option is, i can't find it in the wiki
[05:32] <kapputu> I'm not sure if firefox is hogging all the memory then
[05:32] <kapputu> I'm getting extremely irritated with firefox hogging memory when I have it running for a long time
[05:33] <kapputu> what's the command to check memory usage?
[05:34] <kapputu> top right?
[05:34] <nalioth_zZz> kapputu: free
[05:34] <nalioth_zZz> kapputu: use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase
[05:34] <nickrud> I upped this 800 p3 to 512, and gnome runs well. Compared to the 1mhz machines I used to run, it's very nice.
[05:34] <kapputu> which of these is like firefox?
[05:35] <theCore> synackuator: that should awser your question: http://rage.selfip.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:35] <kapputu> I mean gives me an experience similar to firefox?
[05:35] <synackuator> theCore, thx
[05:35] <durt> galeon
[05:35] <kapputu> and is there a way to free up memory?
[05:35] <durt> but opera beats them all
[05:35] <kapputu> closing down applications doesn't seem to have helped now
[05:35] <nickrud> kapputu, epiphany is very like firefox
[05:35] <IcemanV9> opera is kinda of ugly
[05:36] <kapputu> right I have 5 MB of free memory
[05:36] <IcemanV9> but it does work though
[05:36] <jesse_cool5> whats the command to reset the sound?
[05:36] <mahangu> jesse_cool5, killall esd
[05:36] <jesse_cool5> mahangu, thank you
[05:37] <mahangu> jesse_cool5, np
[05:37] <kapputu> not sure what's taking up all the memory
[05:37] <kapputu> right now I have Xchat, gaim, a gnome terminal open
[05:37] <mahangu> kapputu, have you tried looking for memory leaks?
[05:37] <kapputu> and I'm using 180MB
[05:37] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just installed Firestarter, however, when its on, I get no net access, anybody tell me how to use it to properly configure things?
[05:37] <kapputu> mahangu, how do I do that?
[05:38] <mahangu> kapputu, brb, but someone here will tell you
[05:39] <kapputu> brb, will try out xfce4
[05:39] <mahangu> why did he quit?
[05:39] <mahangu> has he finished apt-getting it?
[05:39] <jesse_cool5> when trying to play a cd in cdplayer i just push play it flashes pause and then changes back to play
[05:39] <versipolis> sony disk? :P
[05:40] <jesse_cool5> no
[05:41] <kapputu> xfce has a OS X theme?
[05:42] <synackuator> kapputu of course
[05:42] <synackuator> it's total pr0n
[05:42] <SoulPropagation> root@laptop:~/Desktop/opencascade # ./install.csh    Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Preparing Java(tm) Virtual Machine... /tmp/isjtzIoYH/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:43] <dhonn> help! my Applications menu doesnt show anything!??
[05:43] <durt> what a cool name BenC!
[05:43] <La_PaRCa> hey kinds. I am trying to modify the wine config file but I cant seem to find it!
[05:44] <SoulPropagation> apt-get install winecfg
[05:44] <La_PaRCa> SoulPropagation, and then what?
[05:44] <SoulPropagation> run it
[05:44] <kapputu> is there a xfce channel?
[05:44] <SoulPropagation> #xfce
[05:44] <La_PaRCa> SoulPropagation, already did. what I need to config aint there
[05:45] <SoulPropagation> /join #wine
[05:45] <theCore> SoulPropagation: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[05:45] <nickrud> dhonn, do ls /usr/share/applications , that's where your menu entries come from. If it isn't empty, just do a pkill gnome-panel in a terminal. They should come back up.
[05:46] <dhonn> its all there
[05:46] <zenlunatic_> i installed visualboyadvance but i can't run it and its not in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/
[05:46] <dhonn> it shows it all for a split second then it like colapses
[05:47] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, how did you install it? dpkg or compile?
[05:47] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: pkg
[05:47] <ibh> hi all
[05:47] <Knowerrors> !firestarter
[05:47] <ubotu> [firestarter]  Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[05:47] <nickrud> zenlunatic_, doing dpkg -L visualboyadvance (assuming it's a deb) will show you all the files in the package
[05:47] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: apt-get
[05:47] <ibh> i have problem with 5.10 installation !
[05:47] <kapputu> what's the command to invoke a terminal?
[05:47] <kapputu> I'm adding a launcher
[05:47] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, was the apt-get complete? did it break?
[05:47] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: gterm
[05:48] <ibh> i got this message "The installation process fails while trying to install the initrd-tools package"  can any 1 help ?
[05:48] <mahangu_> ibh, that's not a helpful support request - tell us WHAT is wrong with it
[05:48] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: excuse me. gnome-terminal
[05:48] <kapputu> SoulPropagation, in xfce?
[05:48] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: yeah.
[05:48] <mahangu_> ibh, are you installing from a ShipIt cd or a downloaded iso?
[05:48] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: oh its capital not all lower
[05:48] <ibh> download
[05:48] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, what?
[05:48] <kapputu> I can't drag and drop applications to the panel?
[05:49] <mahangu_> ibh, did you check your md5sum against the official md5sum?
[05:49] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: its VisualBoyAdvance for binary not visualboyadvance
[05:49] <mahangu_> bites mau have been lost in transit
[05:49] <ibh> no
[05:49] <versipolis> i think i just installed freebsd on the wrong partition and erased breezy..
[05:49] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, i was just getting there
[05:49] <ibh> how can i  check it ?
[05:49] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, next time do man -f Vis*
[05:49] <mahangu_> and man -f vis*
[05:50] <ibh> mahangu : is it a problem of bad download ?
[05:50] <mahangu_> ibh, im not psychic, but it may well be
[05:50] <mahangu_> ibh, are you on linux currently?
[05:50] <ibh> no i am on WIN XP sp 2
[05:51] <mahangu_> ibh, im sorry im not sure how to check an md5 sum of a file on xp
[05:51] <mahangu_> you'll need to google that
[05:51] <ibh> ok how can i do it on linux ?
[05:51] <mahangu_> then compare it with the value in the file "MD5SUM" on the server from where you downloaded your iso
[05:51] <ibh> because i have ubuntu 5.04
[05:52] <ibh> i can switch to it
[05:52] <mahangu_> ibh, command line is easy
[05:53] <Amaranth> ibh: run `md5sum file.iso`
[05:53] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: do you know any good nes emulators for ppc?
[05:53] <mahangu_> md5sum <filename>
[05:53] <ibh> i see
[05:53] <ibh> thanks
[05:53] <La_PaRCa> Hey, I cannot find the wine config file anywhere in my system. Any ideas where it might be=?
[05:53] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, no sorry, not a console fan :)
[05:53] <ds[de] > ibh: i can send you the file for it if you want (for windows)
[05:53] <ibh> i found some win md5 chechker
[05:53] <mahangu_> ibh, ok great
[05:53] <mahangu_> check the md5 of the iso
[05:53] <mahangu_> and compare it to the server you downloaded from
[05:53] <jesse_cool5> how can i add a link to the terminal in the write click menu
[05:53] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, what window manager is this? gnome?
[05:54] <jesse_cool5> mahangu, yes this is for gnome
[05:54] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, if so, it's a little complicated - what I do is put a neat link on my panels
[05:54] <mahangu_> next to my trash icon
[05:54] <mahangu_> or on top, next to my applications list
[05:54] <mahangu_> that way, even if the desktop is covered i have access to my term
[05:55] <jesse_cool5> mahangu, in the last version of ubuntu it had it.
[05:55] <jesse_cool5> but ill guess i just link it in the bar
[05:55] <sells> anyone in here use an ibook
[05:55] <tritium> sells: Hey Steve
[05:55] <sells> tritium: hey Mike
[05:55] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, ive been using it since hoary, and no, it didnt have it
[05:55] <sells> tritium: what is up
[05:55] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, other wms like xfce do have it tho
[05:55] <tritium> sells, not much.  you?
[05:55] <sells> tritium: I am getting an ibook tomorrow
[05:55] <ale3hs> xqzme, how I resize the video in mplayer ?? cozit plays the actual size even if I do it full screen
[05:56] <tritium> sells, nice!
[05:56] <sells> tritium: what ya think about em
[05:56] <ds[de] > jesse_cool5 if you do an sudo apt-cache search nautilus terminal you'll find sth that should solve your problem
[05:56] <mahangu_> ale3hs, i guess that's a problem with a media file
[05:56] <tritium> sells, they're nice, but you won't be able to use the airport extreme
[05:56] <kapputu> how do I minimize windows in xfce4?
[05:56] <jesse_cool5> ds[de] , ill try that
[05:56] <sells> tritium: why
[05:57] <ale3hs> mahangu, no way.. it has to be something with the video output options
[05:57] <tritium> sells, it's not supported
[05:57] <mahangu_> ale3hs, what is the file? codec i mean
[05:57] <sells> tritium: with linux
[05:57] <tritium> sells, right
[05:57] <mahangu_> kapputu, depends on where your theme puts the buttons
[05:57] <kapputu> is there a channel for xfce4?
[05:57] <ale3hs> mpg
[05:57] <ale3hs> mahangu, mpg
[05:57] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: /join #xfce
[05:57] <mahangu_> kapputu, #xfce
[05:57] <sells> tritium: honestly arent both linux and tiger based on unix
[05:57] <tritium> yes
[05:58] <SoulPropagation> if you go back far enough, so is windows
[05:58] <pluffsy> night
[05:58] <sells> tritium: can i still do the chat deal on the ibook
[05:58] <nickrud> ale3hs, try mplayer -vo xv <filename>
[05:58] <sells> without linux
[05:58] <tritium> sells, with Mac OS X, yes
[05:58] <mahangu_> guys
[05:58] <sells> tritium: cool
[05:58] <mahangu_> can we take that talk over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:58] <sells> tritium: the wife broke down and said it is cool
[05:58] <ale3hs> nickrud, how i pass this option to gmplayer ??
[05:58] <tritium> sells, congrats
[05:58] <mahangu_> ale3hs, how does the video play in another player, like xine?
[05:58] <sells> tritium: thanks, so what is new on your end
[05:59] <Amaranth> mahangu_: We're in low-traffic mode at the moment, a small ammount of off-topic conversation is okay, it makes it look like people are actually here. :)
[05:59] <nickrud> ale3hs, gmplayer -vo xv <filename> if that works, you can add it to a config file so gmplayer will always use it
[05:59] <ale3hs> mahangu, w8 to check
[05:59] <mahangu_> Amaranth, ok, it just gets confusing
[05:59] <tritium> sells, just working a lot
[05:59] <sells> tritium: my win hard drive went tits up and thank goodness to linux, I am backing up all my music back to pc
[05:59] <sells> tritium: from ipod
[06:00] <mahangu_> sells, using a livecd?
[06:00] <tritium> backups are good :)
[06:00] <sells> mahangu: no, why
[06:00] <sells> tritium: yeap, definately in this case
[06:00] <ale3hs> nickrud, Xv: could not grab port 69
[06:00] <ale3hs> Could not find free Xvideo port - maybe another process is already using it.
[06:00] <mahangu_> sells, nope, just wondered, since that's what livecds are most used for :)
[06:00] <sells> mahangu: thanks
[06:01] <ale3hs> nickrud, same error with totem.. but I dont have another vid aplic
[06:01] <pztak> for some reason, my computer skips *a lot* when i play dvds... this never happened before in windows.. any suggestions?
[06:01] <sells> tritium: I definately am spoiled for xmas: i got a new ipod as well
[06:01] <Amaranth> !dma
[06:01] <Amaranth> !tell pztak about dma
[06:01] <nickrud> ale3hs, well, that's really odd; I don't know why that would be locked up. a sec or many.
[06:01] <sells> tritium: also, not kidding, got a new f-150: and getting promoted to E8
[06:01] <tritium> congrats, sells
[06:02] <ibh> mahangu_]   i found the md5 is different :(
[06:02] <sells> tritium: been a good month
[06:02] <ibh> do i have to download it again
[06:02] <tritium> glad to hear that
[06:02] <jesse_cool5> also is it possible that i can save all my packages to a cd and give it to a friend?
[06:02] <mahangu_> ibh, try the bit-torrent
[06:02] <kapputu> how do I tab through the windows in xchat?
[06:02] <mahangu_> kapputu, ctrl + tab
[06:02] <mahangu_> it hovers over each tab, hit enter to go there
[06:02] <Ophiocus> can i install ubuntu over a lan? with another ubuntu machine on it
[06:03] <nickrud> ale3hs, do grep XVideo /var/log/Xorg.0.log, do you get any output?
[06:03] <Amaranth> mahangu_: you can just use tab, at least on windows
[06:03] <mahangu_> Amaranth, nope, in windows and now gnome for me
[06:03] <kapputu> mahangu_, how do I bring focus to the text box?
[06:03] <mahangu_> i need to hit enter
[06:03] <Knowerrors> Hi all, can anybody help me with firestarter?
[06:03] <mahangu_> else it just highlights
[06:03] <pztak> Amaranth, thanks
[06:03] <ale3hs> nickrud, cannot believe that .. I just downloaded a movie and I cannot watch it
[06:03] <ale3hs> shit
[06:03] <mahangu_> kapputu, after i hit enter the focus shifts back to the text box
[06:04] <Amaranth> mahangu_: I'm in windows right now and tab works
[06:04] <mahangu_> Amaranth, wierd man, never did for me
[06:04] <mahangu_> at least now im sure on this port it doesnt
[06:04] <Amaranth> mahangu_: i've got silverex 2.6.0
[06:04] <pbransford> Is there a way to launch a program in a terminal, but have it output somewhere else and NOT terminate when i close the terminal? re-access is not needed, the program provides telnet access
[06:04] <mahangu_> Amaranth, i was using a silverex version too
[06:05] <nickrud> ale3hs, I get (II) Loading extension XVideo  from the grep, do you?
[06:05] <Amaranth> pbransford: program > /path/to/log/file &
[06:05] <kapputu> xfce is awesome
[06:05] <kapputu> thanks guys
[06:05] <mahangu_> pbransford, execuite it with <command> &
[06:05] <mahangu_> sorry yeah
[06:05] <kapputu> will get rid of kubuntu
[06:05] <ale3hs> nickrud,  xqzme?
[06:05] <mahangu_> Amaranth, is right
[06:05] <Amaranth> pbransford: then run 'exit' instead of closing the window
[06:05] <kapputu> what's the apt command to remove packages?
[06:05] <Amaranth> kapputu: sudo apt-get remove package
[06:05] <kapputu> Amaranth, why does it free only 36.9 kb??
[06:06] <jesse_cool5> is it possible to save my packages to a cd and give it to my friend so he can install the all
[06:06] <pbransford> thanks
[06:06] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, for example
[06:06] <nickrud> ale3hs, from grep XVideo /var/log/Xorg.0.log , to see if the XVideo extension is even loaded by X
[06:06] <Amaranth> kapputu: you're uninstalling a metapackage
[06:06] <kapputu> Amaranth, how do I remove the dependencies too?
[06:06] <La_PaRCa> Does anyone know where I can find a wine IRC channel?
[06:06] <Amaranth> kapputu: metapackages don't have anything in them, they just depend on other packages to make a cohesive unit
[06:06] <kapputu> or whatever it's caleld
[06:06] <Amaranth> kapputu: get aptitude and run sudo aptitude remove <package>
[06:06] <kapputu> *called
[06:07] <kapputu> Amaranth, same thing
[06:07] <kapputu> only 36.9 kb removed
[06:07] <kapputu> freed
[06:07] <JonnyRo> Anyone here use banshee in ubuntu?
[06:07] <JonnyRo> i've been having lots of problems with it
[06:07] <Amaranth> kapputu: err, i dunno then
[06:07] <JonnyRo> t just sits there forever trying to import my music files
[06:08] <Amaranth> JonnyRo: it is beta software
[06:08] <kapputu> well I got rid of kubuntu-desktop but I don't know how to free up the space taken up the packages that came along with it
[06:08] <nickrud> kapputu, try apt-get -s remove libqt3-mt (-s simulates)
[06:09] <kapputu> nickrud, no effect. The disk space is not getting freed.
[06:09] <kapputu> it did remove the packages though
[06:10] <nickrud> kapputu, well, it only simulated it, it didn't actually perform the removes
[06:10] <pbransford> I did what you said, but its outputing to the terminal instead of the file
[06:10] <kapputu> sorry, I go into these doofus modes
[06:10] <kapputu> and don't use my brain sometime
[06:10] <nickrud> kapputu, if you're happy with what would be removed, do it without the -s
[06:10] <pbransford> and it did not return me to a command prompt
[06:10] <mcc> How in ubuntu do i change the screen resolution from the command line?
[06:11] <pbransford> whats that program that runs a process in the background outputting to program.out?
[06:11] <ale3hs> nickrud, same problem
[06:11] <kapputu> not sure why ubuntu needs like 4Gig
[06:11] <nickrud> kapputu, you also need to remove arts, and maybe there's a few other things left lying around, but not many
[06:11] <Amaranth> mcc: xvmc
[06:11] <kapputu> nickrud, is there a way to get a list?
[06:11] <nickrud> ale3hs, did the grep say that the XVideo extensions were loaded
[06:11] <ale3hs> yes
[06:11] <ale3hs> (II) Loading extension XVideo
[06:11] <ale3hs> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[06:11] <nickrud> kapputu, the apt-get -s remove should provide a list
[06:11] <mcc> thanks
[06:12] <SoulPropagation> root@laptop:~/Desktop/opencascade # ./install.csh    Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Preparing Java(tm) Virtual Machine... /tmp/isjtzIoYH/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:12] <cwillu> Question:  setting swappiness to a low value is pretty common advice;  is it considered good advice, or merely popular?
[06:12] <ale3hs> nickrud, (II) Loading extension XVideo
[06:12] <ale3hs> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[06:12] <nickrud> ale3hs, then, I'm not sure what's going on
[06:13] <kapputu> so why does ubuntu take up 3 Gig on my machine?
[06:14] <kapputu> Is there a way to free up unwanted stuff
[06:14] <nickrud> ale3hs, basic X I know, but the ports it wants, and why, is over my head.
[06:14] <bur[n] er> kapputu: use syanptic and remove stuff
[06:14] <kapputu> bur[n] er, going through the gui is a pain
[06:14] <kapputu> I'd rather use the cmd-line
[06:14] <bur[n] er> kapputu: apt-get remove blah if you prefer :P
[06:14] <cwillu> kapputu, I also think packages get cached, don't quite know where offhand though
[06:15] <SoulPropagation> root@laptop:~/Desktop/opencascade # ./install.csh    Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Preparing Java(tm) Virtual Machine... /tmp/isjtzIoYH/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (oh, i forgot to add - i did install java how the web guide said)
[06:15] <bur[n] er> kapputu: to clear cached packages... apt-get clean
[06:15] <kapputu> cwillu, aah that'd be a nice thing to know
[06:15] <cwillu> but are you really so short on disk space?  120gigs is what, 90 bucks now?  :)
[06:15] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: Please don't repeat yourself.
[06:15] <cwillu> what bur[n] er said :p
[06:15] <bur[n] er> 120 can be as low as about $30 these days with rebates
[06:15] <kapputu> cwillu, I'm using a laptop
[06:15] <cwillu> heh... as if anybody sends those it :)
[06:16] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: Make sure libstdc++6 is installed.
[06:16] <alekz> hi, HVD units are supported by ubuntu ?
[06:16] <kapputu> and I have a ubuntu installation on another partition
[06:16] <kapputu> of course I do need to get rid of that
[06:16] <SoulPropagation> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[06:16] <cwillu> fair enough;  "apt-get clean" was it?
[06:16] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: Then the installer sucks.
[06:16] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: It's probably designed to only work with RHEL4.
[06:16] <kapputu> yeah cwillu
[06:16] <kapputu> bur[n] er, thanks man I freed up 500MB
[06:16] <SoulPropagation> maybe i can ln some sos?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> kapputu: np
[06:17] <kapputu> is there a way I can change the default installation to some other drive or something?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> kapputu: when removing packages... use --purge as well to clean up configs
[06:17] <Quenyar> Anybody know how to tell evolution to collect mail but leave it on the remote server?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> Quenyar: check the box that says leave mail on server ;)
[06:17] <kapputu> I'm increasingly beginning to like xfce for the UI and performance
[06:18] <kapputu> bur[n] er, thanks I'll keep that in mind
[06:18] <synackuator> does the regular SMP kernel support dual cores such as the X2?
[06:18] <Amaranth> synackuator: yeah
[06:18] <bur[n] er> Xfce needs thunar to mature to draw a desktop and then I'd consider it :)
[06:18] <kapputu> where are the other drives mounted?
[06:18] <Amaranth> synackuator: dual cores is more or less two cpus on one chip so the smp stuff is the same
[06:18] <kapputu> ok got it
[06:19] <cwillu> kernel.vm.swappiness:  any opinions?
[06:19] <sellout_> quick question about ubuntu installation
[06:19] <Quenyar> thanks bur[n] er - just missed that
[06:19] <sellout_> I have a system with no cdrom and some really bad acpi problems with my current old debian setup
[06:19] <ale3hs> nickrud, I will just close the X and login again.. maybe some program use my video device and I dont know what it is
[06:19] <kapputu> bur[n] er, what'd you suggest otherwise?
[06:20] <sellout_> I managed to get it to boot (this once) and I'm wondering if there's a initrd/kernel  combo I could download and then boot with grub to begin a fresh install
[06:20] <mahangu_> I have Ubuntu installed on one partition, and Deb 3.1 on the other. I want to install Kubuntu over the deb partition, but will it hijack my GRUB?
[06:20] <nickrud> ale3hs, hopefully that's it.
[06:20] <bur[n] er> kapputu: as a Window Manager?  I use Gnome (metacity)
[06:20] <kapputu> bur[n] er, what's metacity?
[06:20] <viviersf> mahangu_, nope
[06:20] <viviersf> kapputu, its a windowmanager gnome uses
[06:20] <bur[n] er> kapputu: google is your fried
[06:20] <mahangu_> viviersf, no i mean, the file that the MBR reads will become /kubuntu_part/boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[06:20] <SoulPropagation> Amaranth: yeah, it's designed for redhat-based systems (not just RHEL)
[06:21] <bur[n] er> friend even
[06:21] <mahangu_> and not /ubuntu_part/boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:21] <viviersf> mahangu_, why do you want ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[06:21] <TobyK> hi! quick question - if I want to give the group permission to create files in a directory, what do I do? I've trie chmod g+rwx but it's not working
[06:21] <viviersf> just go into ubuntu and say
[06:21] <viviersf> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:21] <sellout_> if I just pull the initrd/kernel from the ubuntu netboot package and boot them with grub, am I golden?
[06:21] <mahangu_> viviersf, for kicks :) im also making room for a dapper install
[06:21] <viviersf> then just log into what you want
[06:21] <mahangu_> viviersf, ah
[06:21] <mahangu_> yes
[06:22] <mahangu_> so i might make that partition dapper then
[06:22] <viviersf> yeh
[06:22] <viviersf> good choice
[06:22] <kapputu> viviersf, how do I install metacity ??? I don't have a lot of RAM - 256 to be precise on a P III 850 which is why I switched to xfce
[06:22] <viviersf> cos you are just gonna waste space otherwise
[06:22] <mahangu_> viviersf, yeah - i just downloaded the iso for nothing then
[06:22] <viviersf> kapputu, dont use metacity clean
[06:22] <kapputu> how do I make other partitions writeable??
[06:22] <Khain3> how long does it usually take to get ubuntu cd's ? because according to the ship it page they were 2005-10-14: 3 CDs (sent to shipping company) and it says it takes 4- 6 weeks but so far its been over 6 weeks
[06:22] <viviersf> its not very "usable"
[06:22] <viviersf> gnome plugs into it
[06:22] <kcskyl> i've installed ubuntu on two of my laptops and would like to switch back to Xp for one of them, but i can't get it to boot from CD...it keeps taking me to grub...could anyone help me with this?
[06:22] <kcskyl> thanks in advance!
[06:22] <viviersf> rather use metacity / fluxbox / openbox etc
[06:23] <mike100> anyone here know about problems with Apache/PHP on Breezy?
[06:23] <pztak> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on another machine and I keep getting; "Build LTSP chroot - Installation step failed" any ideas why? (i have it do a network install from the ubuntu server).. ?
[06:23] <mahangu_> viviersf, can i use gparted to safely expand my ubuntu parition?
[06:23] <dura> FVWM ownz.
[06:23] <kapputu> viviersf, why fluxbox instead of xfce?
[06:23] <mahangu_> viviersf, /query?
[06:23] <mike100> I'm getting this Firefox dialog like, "What do you want to do with this PHP file?" instead of loading it.
[06:23] <viviersf> kapputu, nope just dont use metacity
[06:23] <TobyK> directory permissions anyone?
[06:23] <viviersf> mahangu_, sure :)
[06:23] <nickrud> I cried when sawmill died.
[06:23] <dura> TobyK, What's the trouble/
[06:23] <TobyK> hi! quick question - if I want to give the group permission to create files in a directory, what do I do? I've trie chmod g+rwx but it's not working
[06:24] <SoulPropagation> TobyK: try doing chmod -R mode location
[06:24] <alekz> hi, HVD units are supported by ubuntu ??
[06:24] <kapputu> viviersf, I don't understand
[06:24] <TobyK> what mode for "create" permission?
[06:24] <kapputu> viviersf, can you give me some pointers to learn more about this?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> TobyK: man chmod
[06:24] <dura> TobyK, man chmos && man chown
[06:24] <TobyK> i tried that was the most unhelpful page
[06:24] <mike100> Got an Apache question on Breezy. Anyone takers?
[06:24] <dura> chmod
[06:24] <viviersf> kapputu, whats the exact problem ?
[06:24] <ale3hs> nickrud, now its ok
[06:25] <viviersf> you dont want to use gnome / kde cos your pc is slow ?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> mike100: it's always easier to just ask the question
[06:25] <kcskyl> can anyone help me boot from grub?
[06:25] <nickrud> ale3hs, there's a research project for you :)
[06:25] <kcskyl> boot cd-rom
[06:25] <dura> Is there a ubuntu AMD64 channel by chance?
[06:25] <versipolis> kcskyl, what exactly do you need to do?
[06:26] <kapputu> viviersf, I'm using xfce now but would like to use Gnome
[06:26] <kcskyl> versipolis, i have ubuntu on two of my computers, and would like to put Xp on one of them
[06:26] <kapputu> though I don't know if I have enough resources to run GNOME
[06:26] <Knowerrors> Can anybody help with firewall setup?
[06:26] <mike100> In Hoary, I was just fine with PHP4 and Apache. Now I'm in Breezy and my PHP broke. I had to uninstall it and reinstall it. I got it to work for like one day and then after a reboot, it broke. I reinstalled PHP5 and Apache2 but Firefox still asks me what I want to do with a PHP file. I'm stuck.
[06:26] <kcskyl> versipolis, i found there there are compatibility issues with ubuntu that i just could not take care of
[06:26] <versipolis> kcskyl, u want ubuntu and xp on one of the comps or just xp?
[06:26] <ale3hs> nickrud, ok now a research project for you.. I switch off limewire when i log out the X.. and I relogin and I saw that I lost all my downloads in limewire
[06:27] <kcskyl> versipolis, just xp.  thanks for your response!
[06:27] <SoulPropagation> mike100: sounds like a prob with apache, go to #apache
[06:27] <viviersf> kapputu, ah :) type this : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <mike100> Knowerrors, I can help. Do you want to just build a simple firewall to keep out like 50% of the bad stuff?
[06:27] <sellout_> are there dapper install images around?
[06:27] <ale3hs> nickrud, that means about 10 movies that was already finished
[06:27] <sellout_> I just want the initrd and kernel
[06:27] <mahangu_> sellout_, yes
[06:27] <kapputu> viviersf, I already have GNOME
[06:27] <Corrupter> i've got a quick question
[06:27] <versipolis> kcskyl, this a laptop or desktop?
[06:27] <kapputu> viviersf, it's slow
[06:27] <nickrud> ale3hs, use I'd use gtk-gnutella, not limewire, if I were inclined to that kind of thing.
[06:27] <kcskyl> versipolis, everytime i try to boot from cd, i am taken to GNU GRUB
[06:27] <sellout_> mahangu_: and i should just be able to boot the kernel/initrd from grub ala command line right?
[06:27] <kcskyl> versipolis, this is a laptop
[06:28] <kapputu> viviersf, how do I make another partition writeable?
[06:28] <ale3hs> nickrud, is it same servers?
[06:28] <nickrud> ale3hs, yes
[06:28] <mahangu_> sellout_, sorry dintfollow
[06:28] <viviersf> kapputu, what partition type ?
[06:28] <mahangu_> *didn't
[06:28] <sellout_> mahangu_: I just want the kernel/initrd so that I can boot them via grub and install over my existing system
[06:28] <kapputu> viviersf, ext3
[06:28] <sellout_> mahangu_: which doesn't have netboot or a cdrom
[06:28] <Corrupter> if i have 2 hard drives, can i make one an extension of my root partition?
[06:28] <versipolis> kcskyl, some of the new laptops have wierd options to boot from cd like tap 'c' key at startup. what kind of laptop?
[06:28] <ale3hs> nickrub, and gnutella is okay?? it saves the trasnefer list and everything ok?
[06:29] <kapputu> wait I can edit /etc/fstab right?
[06:29] <ale3hs> you recomment it?
[06:29] <kcskyl> viviersf, I am taken to a GNU GRUB with no "boot from CD" option.  i have a toshiba portege 3110ct
[06:29] <mahangu_> sellout_, ive never done that mate,sorry
[06:29] <kcskyl> indeed a very old computer
[06:29] <Corrupter> does anyone know
[06:29] <Corrupter> ?
[06:29] <sellout_> mahangu_: do you know where the initrd/kernel for dapper are
[06:29] <Knowerrors> mike100: I was hoping for some program that would guide me through it, just something to allow webbrowsing, irc, im, ssh, email
[06:29] <sellout_> mahangu_: not the entire iso
[06:29] <nickrud> ale3hs, yes, I'd recommend it strongly, if I were inclined to do that kind of thing (disclaimer for the logs)
[06:29] <kapputu> sometimes it feels good just to have a command-line, you can get so much done
[06:30] <mahangu_> sellout_, im just downloading the iso, i can tar and email you when i get it
[06:30] <viviersf> kafeine, in the mount options for the hdd in /etc/fstab , just put a : rw
[06:30] <viviersf> in
[06:30] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: and how do you expect to get XP running if the darn thing can't even boot up from a CD
[06:30] <ale3hs> nickrud, i was using linux a lot, but not for the last 3-4 years .. and i dont know whats going on
[06:30] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation, exactly...i'm trying to boot up from a CD right now
[06:30] <Corrupter> ... anybody?
[06:30] <sellout_> mahangu_: if I don't find it before you're done, sure ;>
[06:30] <kapputu> what does the 'noauto' option do in /etc/fstab?
[06:31] <mahangu_> sellout_, good luck - btw, you want dapper for testing, correct?
[06:31] <kapputu> ok I forgot the command to restart changes to the partition made in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <SoulPropagation> SoulPropagation: if it's that old, it probably can't run XP without going potty all over itself, so to speak
[06:31] <nickrud> ale3hs, there's been a lot of changes in that time, true. Stuff has dropped by the wayside (bye bye, galeon) and others have gotten a lot of attention.
[06:31] <sellout_> mahangu_: I just want something than my 7 year old debian install
[06:31] <mahangu_> sellout_, so go for breezy
[06:32] <mahangu_> dapper is still in development - very early development
[06:32] <odin> What could cause a directory to be enterable by a given user in a shell, but not in gnome?
[06:32] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation, i ran win 2000 no prob, and i read an ariticle that says that it should work with XP
[06:32] <sellout_> if it boots, and can run samba I'm happy
[06:32] <versipolis> kcskyl, u need to set bootup options in the computer bios tell it to boot from cd first try: with laptop OFF
[06:32] <versipolis> press & hold ESC key while powering on then hit F1 when prompted then PgDn
[06:32] <sellout_> which I know it will
[06:32] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: wrong
[06:32] <SoulPropagation> XP is much more resource-intensive.
[06:32] <ale3hs> nickrud, I was using gentoo but I got sicked with the compiling.. ubuntu I must confess rocks
[06:32] <kapputu> ok I forgot the command to restart changes to the partition made in /etc/fstab
[06:32] <sellout_> mahangu_: I'm interested to see where this whole ubuntu thing is going I used debian for a long long time
[06:33] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation, Yes.  I understand that.
[06:33] <mahangu_> sellout_, so breezy is your best bet!
[06:33] <mahangu_> :)
[06:33] <kapputu> mahangu_, help?
[06:33] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: there's nothing 2000 can't do that XP can
[06:33] <SoulPropagation> XP is just 2000 with a bunch of toys'
[06:33] <mahangu_> kapputu, reboot?
[06:33] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: nothing at all?
[06:33] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: nope
[06:33] <kapputu> mahangu_, no there is a command
[06:33] <nickrud> ale3hs, I started with debian a few years ago, and ubuntu has put a nice polish in spots
[06:33] <mahangu_> why are we talking about winblows in here?
[06:33] <sellout_> mahangu_: well I was interested in the software discovery features of the new installer
[06:33] <mahangu_> kapputu, after you edit /etc/fstab just restart
[06:34] <ale3hs> nickrud, however I have so many programs and I cannot unistall it coz of the dependecies.. thats a bit silly the managment with the dependecies
[06:34] <mahangu_> sellout_, breezy discovers too?
[06:34] <SoulPropagation> mahangu_: don't insult other operating systems. everything's good for something
[06:34] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: problem is i don't have a hundred dollars to buy 2000...
[06:34] <kapputu> no mahangu_ you don't need that
[06:34] <mahangu_> kapputu, ok my bad then
[06:34] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: i only have XP
[06:34] <siriuskr> okay i have windows on 1 drive and linux on the other i formated the linux drive and the boot loader is still on my windows drive but now i can't boot into windows ??? gives me grub error 17 ???
[06:34] <kapputu> I just found out that the changes take effect immediately
[06:34] <bur[n] er> kcskyl: so use ubuntu :P
[06:34] <mike100> Knowerrors, then I suggest using lokkit, and I prefer the command-line version, not gnome-lokkit.
[06:34] <kapputu> but previously you needed a command to do that
[06:34] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: there should have been an install CD that came with your machine
[06:34] <sellout_> mahangu_: I run a network of linux machines/windows that do RDP into win2k servers
[06:34] <kapputu> in warty I mean
[06:34] <mahangu_> kapputu, /etc/init.d/mountall.sh ?
[06:34] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: i purchased a used machine...didn't come with 2000
[06:34] <mike100> Knowerrors: Have you tried lokkit?
[06:34] <SoulPropagation> you could also download a pirated copy of 2000 and install it with the CD-key on the bottom of your computer
[06:34] <sellout_> mahangu_: i like this software rollout stuff they speak off
[06:35] <kapputu> sellout_, can you get me a VPN client 4.0.3 for linux?
[06:35] <ale3hs> nickrud, haha debian was a big joke... u should be a proffesor in programming to install it.. it had so many mistakes
[06:35] <sellout_> mahangu_: and it's just my home FS that I'd be switching over
[06:35] <nickrud> ale3hs, the best advice I could give is to learn aptitude's interactive mode, you can easily trace down dependencies and weed them out.
[06:35] <versipolis> kcskyl, not really on topic but all u have to do in xp is disable some services u dont need. start-run-services.msc and start disabling and stopping stuff
[06:35] <mahangu_> sellout_, i see
[06:35] <siriuskr> okay i have windows on 1 drive and linux on the other i formated the linux drive and the boot loader is still on my windows drive but now i can't boot into windows ??? gives me grub error 17 ???
[06:35] <Fushi> siriuskr: Fdisk /MBR
[06:35] <Kumasan> Using the GNOME filechooser, to save files, etc, how do you configure it to allow you to select directories beginning with a . ?
[06:35] <mahangu_> sellout_, ok well good luck, but dapper is far from stable
[06:35] <sellout_> kapputu: 4.0.3 vpn client?
[06:35] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, i would if you can help me get my PDA to work properly on my ubuntu :)
[06:35] <kapputu> sellout_, yes
[06:35] <bur[n] er> kcskyl: what kinda pda?
[06:35] <sellout_> mahangu_: I've run debian 'testing' since god knows when
[06:35] <siriuskr> ? /MBR ?
[06:35] <nickrud> ale3hs, no, not mistakes, just a different approach.
[06:35] <sellout_> mahangu_: if it breaks after a apt-get dist-upgrade I just wait a day or so
[06:36] <sellout_> kapputu: sorry please explain 4.0.3
[06:36] <kcskyl> versipolis, the esc trick didn't work...
[06:36] <nickrud> ale3hs, and, you're essentially running debian at the moment :)
[06:36] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, Tungsten E
[06:36] <Knowerrors> mike100: nope, haven't heard of it... is it pretty easy?
[06:36] <ale3hs> nickrud, where are u from ?? a differend approach that u had to edit every single file to have things working
[06:36] <kcskyl> versipolis: it took me to the same Grub window
[06:36] <sellout_> kapputu: as in ubuntu 4.0.3? and for what VPN backend
[06:36] <bur[n] er> kcskyl: I had one of those!!!  it works out of the box!
[06:36] <mahangu_> sellout_, good point! ;-)
[06:36] <siriuskr> Fushi MBR ?      also i need to keep everything i had on that disk like it was
[06:36] <versipolis> kcskyl, u need to get into bios not sure what key you will need to use
[06:36] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, you mean the calendar, music, and powerpoint?
[06:36] <ale3hs> nickrud, yea but 3 years later ..it has been improved
[06:37] <sellout_> mahangu_: samba is all I really care about, well actually the wife since all her audio/video on the xbox streams from the debian server
[06:37] <kcskyl> versipolis: yeah...couldn't figure that out myself...
[06:37] <versipolis> kcskyl, try tapping 'C' at startup toshiba like to put that in most bios
[06:37] <viviersf> kapputu, noauto makes that the partition isnt auto mounted at boot time
[06:37] <pztak> the linux-k7 kernel is for amd (gateway) machines?
[06:37] <kcskyl> versipolis: i tried that...still grub
[06:37] <mike100> Knowerrors: lokkit is extremely easy. Just apt-get install lokkit (and if that's not available, then do "sudo /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the universe lines temporarily, then do "sudo apt-get update", then try "sudo apt-get install lokkit")
[06:37] <nickrud> ale3hs, yeah, the approach was, don't get in the way of the administrator. But, true, I installed debian early on, looked at the command prompt, and installed mandrake. I went back about a year later.
[06:37] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, did you get the word document, powerpoint, and calendar to work from your PDA to your ubuntu???
[06:38] <viviersf> kapputu, to "commit" the changes unmount the partitions your changed and mount em again
[06:38] <ale3hs> nickrud, I got a serious question to test ur skills.. I got an acer travel mate.. so there is any way to set up my pen ??
[06:38] <mike100> Knowerrors: lokkit is a good starting point. And it generates a file on the hard drive -- I forgot where, but it's under the /etc directory where you can see the actual "iptables" statements it uses to do its work.
[06:38] <nickrud> ale3hs, not a clue.
[06:38] <Knowerrors> mike100: dowloading it right now
[06:39] <ale3hs> nickrud, and a second more important, can I connect my motorolla V975 to linux?? there is any software ?
[06:39] <sellout_> does anyone else have a dapper install initrd/kernel lying around?
[06:39] <nickrud> but, if I was looking for a clue, I'd start at the ubuntu laptop pages and http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html
[06:39] <Knowerrors> mike100: will lokkit automatically write to the iptables config file?
[06:40] <mike100> Knowerrors: yep
[06:40] <mike100> Knowerrors: From there, I eliminated lokkit and started using the iptables script it gave me. I went to Usenet newsgroups and asked for advice on improving it and got some good advice.
[06:40] <ale3hs> nickrud, I have to write a java application for motorolla and I need to conect it somehow
[06:40] <kcskyl> bur[n] er:?
[06:41] <sellout_> wow the ubuntu www site doesn't make it easy to find a download of anything but "release'
[06:42] <onkarshinde> sellout_: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <Knowerrors> hmm, lokkit didn't really ask questions...
[06:42] <onkarshinde> sellout_: What do you want to download? And why do you want to download from site?
[06:42] <ale3hs> goodnite guys ..and good luck with the problems ;) ..see ya
[06:43] <guidan> hi, wants a good dvd copy for ubuntu?
[06:43] <sudhir> hi I m facinf problem while installing modem
[06:43] <sudhir> device 1014:0576
[06:43] <onkarshinde> sudhir: What kind of modem is it?
[06:43] <sellout_> onkarshinde: I want to download a initrd/kernel for the installer set
[06:43] <sudhir> its Intel onboard modem
[06:44] <sellout_> onkarshinde: I have a machine with no netboot and no removeable media that I would like to install dapper on
[06:44] <sellout_> onkarshinde: so a initrd/kernel would let me do it from grub
[06:45] <moua> can anyone login to http://billing.yahoo.com ? it don't works for me :(
[06:45] <sudhir> I dont see it in pci.ids
[06:45] <onkarshinde> sudhir: First imp thing. Don't use dapper. Second thing. If yours is new computer then there is high chance that the modem is Smartrlink. Can you paste output of lspci into pastebin?
[06:45] <mahangu_> moua, i fail to see what that has to do with ubuntu
[06:46] <SoulPropagation> moua: it's not a ubuntu problem
[06:47] <ben_underscore> hey all, i just installed 5.10 and quite a few of the gnome desktop icons are missing, such as from nautilus and the task bar. anyone seen this before?
[06:47] <moua> in what channel should i go for that problem ?
[06:47] <sudhir> sorry onkar , but i didnt get what do u mean my dapper
[06:47] <sudhir> my =by
[06:47] <rob_p> moua:  The page loads but that's all I can tell you since I don't have a login.
[06:48] <moua> After the login page i get a blank page :(
[06:48] <onkarshinde> I thought you wanted to install dapper drake (6.04 unstable). Anyways. Can you tell me which modem is it by output of lspci
[06:48] <rob_p> moua:  I guess contact yahoo customer service...
[06:48] <moua> ok :/
[06:48] <pztak> in the 2nd part of install, while configuring the packages, it had some problem, and quit, now i only see a login screen.. how do i relaunch that configuration?
[06:48] <snausages> hey all, is there any way to disable font smoothing in the terminal?
[06:48] <Corrupter> can anyone answer a question?
[06:49] <La_PaRCa> Exactly how well is dapper working right now...?
[06:49] <onkarshinde> Corrupter: You seems to be the person with most question in this channel. Anyway, go on.
[06:50] <onkarshinde> !tell La_PaRCa about topic
[06:50] <sudhir> onkar plz chek -->http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5034
[06:50] <La_PaRCa> I didnt ask how to install it. I just wanna know if its in a mildly recognizable shape so I can post _any_ results to the laptop testing team.
[06:51] <rob_p> Corrupter:  I can answer lots of questions but it probably won't help you... not unlike your question's ability to help us understand what you need help with :-)
[06:51] <pc22> #games
[06:51] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the screen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:51] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, I understand that X is not exactly stable right now, so probably not
[06:52] <Corrupter> well i was here 20 minutes ago and was completely ignored, so figured it would be a good idea to ask before wasting my time] 
[06:52] <pztak> in the 2nd part of install, while configuring the packages, it had some problem, and quit, now i only see a login screen.. how do i relaunch that configuration?
[06:52] <alekz> how can i change my mouse icon ?
[06:52] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, oh, ok. Thanks. I will have to get an extra laptop from my company to test on then.
[06:53] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the sceen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:53] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, there's been 4 uploads of xorg in the last week :)
[06:53] <benoy> hi, i just tried to install java using the method shown in the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide in Syster>help bup when I type in the command:**dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb** my terminal says  ** dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:53] <benoy>   ** What should I do?
[06:53] <Corrupter> if i have a second hard drive, would i be able to extend my root partition onto it?
[06:53] <rob_p> Corrupter:  Yeah, it can seem that way from time to time depending on who happens to be available.  Maybe nobody with a solution was listening.  Don't give up man!
[06:53] <pc22> how do i know my resources? my RAM?
[06:53] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, oh, if its _that_ bad then what I need is more bandwidth.
[06:53] <onkarshinde> pztak: You will have to reconfigure packages in which there was a problem. But anyways. If you see login screen that means mostl things are alright.
[06:53] <nickrud> lol
[06:53] <onkarshinde> pc22: top
[06:53] <mike100> Knowerrors: Did you install gnome-lokkit or just lokkit. The lokkit will have checkboxes to choose. Gnome-lokkit, I recall, did not.
[06:53] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the sceen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:53] <pztak> onkarshinde, i dont know which ones caused the problem.. stuff like 'man' though are missing
[06:53] <sudhir> onkarshinde : did u check the link
[06:54] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, you need to subscribe to dapper-changes
[06:54] <pztak> onkarshinde, as well as X
[06:54] <pc22> onkarshinde, any other?
[06:54] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, I need to do many things... Ive been meaning to get involved and adopt a couple of orphan packages and do the laptop testing and what not... Havent quite gotten to it.
[06:54] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the sceen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:55] <Corrupter> see? lol...
[06:55] <La_PaRCa> What I _really_ need to do right now tho, is take.a.piss.
[06:55] <onkarshinde> sudhir: Yes I did. There is something called sl-modem. Search it in synaptic. See if it works with your modem
[06:55] <onkarshinde> pztak: Can you login to computer?
[06:55] <Fushi> Corrupter: I'm not sure how to, sorry
[06:55] <rob_p> LoneWolf071:  Nobody has an answer for you at the moment...  No sense in spamming the channel!
[06:56] <onkarshinde> pc22: Isn't that command sufficient?
[06:56] <pztak> onkarshinde, yes, but in console
[06:56] <Fushi> Corrupter: Maybe link /root to that hd or part?
[06:56] <LoneWolf071> rob_p, Sorry...
[06:56] <pc22> i want to know my processor too
[06:56] <Corrupter> and how do i do that?
[06:56] <onkarshinde> pztak: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor
[06:57] <rob_p> Corrupter:  Did you partition your drive in such a way that the root partition is separate from /usr and /var, etc?
[06:57] <onkarshinde> pztak: Sorry, that was for pc22
[06:57] <SoulPropagation> so i have this program that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - i know i have libstdc++ installed, so what should i make a link of to fake libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?
[06:57] <Corrupter> i haven't even put it in yet
[06:57] <onkarshinde> pc22: System Monitor or Device Manager. Search in menus
[06:57] <sudhir> onkar plz chek -->http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5034
[06:58] <La_PaRCa> LoneWolf071, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the default resolution from there. I dont have better advise on a better tool since I dont use fluxbox.
[06:58] <Vivaldi> hello
[06:58] <Vivaldi> what's Flight-1 Dapper Testing CD ?
[06:58] <pztak> onkarshinde, it's ok, any ideas on how to get this to work.. i've never had so much trouble installing ubuntu on a machine.. i've run it through installation way too many times..
[06:59] <onkarshinde> pztak: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:59] <onkarshinde> sudhir: I did look into it. It seems you didn't read my reply.
[06:59] <La_PaRCa> PabloEscobar_, wow, thats an offensive nickname
[07:00] <PabloEscobar_> La_PaRCa-> why ??
[07:00] <onkarshinde> sudhir: There is a driver sl-modem. Search in Synaptics
[07:00] <La_PaRCa> PabloEscobar_, cuz im colombian...
[07:00] <La_PaRCa> Unless your name _actually_ is pablo escobar, in which case I am sorry.
[07:00] <Fushi> heh
[07:00] <PabloEscobar_> La_PaRCa-> heh, didn't know, I'm nowhere near Col., but O've seemed to use that nick for a couple of years
[07:01] <Madpilot> Vivaldi: see the /topic regarding Dapper
[07:01] <La_PaRCa> PabloEscobar_, ok
[07:01] <SoulPropagation> La_PaRCa: how is that at all offensive?
[07:02] <pztak> onkarshinde, it says package isn't installed.. i get the feeling that more than one packages didn't get installed.. why can't i just rerun the part2 of install that launches on boot? does it erase itself?
[07:02] <SoulPropagation> so i have this program that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - i know i have libstdc++ installed, so what should i make a link of to fake libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?
[07:02] <La_PaRCa> SoulPropagation, Pablo Escobar was a renowned colombian drug dealer. And its associated with a bad image of my country. I dont think its a name to so lightly throw around.
[07:02] <onkarshinde> pztak: Do one thing then. 'sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop' This will install the packages needed.
[07:03] <pztak> onkarshinde, ok, trying, once it's done, what do i do?
[07:03] <SoulPropagation> La_PaRCa: ah
[07:03] <SoulPropagation> that sucks.
[07:03] <onkarshinde> pztak: Reboot. :-D
[07:04] <pztak> onkarshinde, will do. any ideas on why the installation would have problems on a fresh new install? is it a sign that's something's wrong with the harddrives or something?
[07:05] <onkarshinde> pztak: No it may be sign that CD is not properly burnt, or simply failure of CDROM drive
[07:05] <sudhir> Onkar : thanks , let me try
[07:05] <onkarshinde> sudhir: still there?
[07:05] <pztak> onkarshinde, but the cd wasn't in.. it was in the second part of the install.. where it says to remove the cd.. (after the first reboot in the install)...
[07:06] <ke> pztak, you should burn the CD at a lower speed.. Try 24x
[07:06] <onkarshinde> pztak: May the packages wasn't copied properly to har disk's tmp area. Leave the reason. See if my suggestion solves your problem
[07:06] <ke> I had the same problem
[07:06] <SoulPropagation> so i have this program that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - i know i have libstdc++ installed, so what should i make a link of to fake libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?
[07:06] <La_PaRCa> pztak, it has happened to me before... maybe your partition wasnt big enough to install _and_ cache the packages from the cd
[07:07] <sudhir> met me reboot and check
[07:07] <onkarshinde> SoulPropagation: What program is it?
[07:07] <pztak> La_PaRCa, the partition was 7gb for / and 80gb for /home..
[07:07] <NoUse> pztak what kind of problems are you having? Some problems have to do with bad RAM
[07:07] <sudhir> apt-get installed new kernel :( :)
[07:07] <ke> pztak, my was 30 gb... So just burn it at 24x :)
[07:07] <ke> It will work
[07:07] <pztak> NoUse, during install, i had problems with using the cd for base system, so i set it up to use the mirrors
[07:07] <ke> <-- out for breakfast
[07:07] <NoUse> pztak oh ok, yeah thats a CD problem, did you verify the ISO when you downloaded it?
[07:08] <onkarshinde> sudhir: What did you try to install? Did you updated system recently? Kernel has been updated recently
[07:08] <NoUse> !tell pztak about verify
[07:08] <pztak> NoUse, then with the chroot environment being configured.. and lastly with part2 failing to configure
[07:08] <opiate> anyone have any problems with firefix or anyother browser when using a java chat text box? nothing shows up as i type?!?!
[07:09] <pztak> NoUse, i burnt the cd twice.. and i've burnt ubuntu install cds before that worked on other machines..
[07:09] <nickrud> opiate, I had that problem once, I changed the monospace font
[07:09] <PabloEscobar_> La_PaRCa-> I didn't mean any offence to anyone, just I've used to that nickname (I'm Paul -> Hence Pablo :) )
[07:10] <EerieShadow> hello everybody
[07:10] <La_PaRCa> hey, whats the name of that capplet that tells you the speed of your network connection?
[07:10] <NoUse> pztak then yeah try burning it a slower speed
[07:10] <nickrud> netspeed?
[07:11] <d03boy> can anyone tell me how to get write permissions for a mounted fat32 partition?
[07:11] <EerieShadow> is there a way to set my laptops' resolution to 1280x768? wide screen
[07:11] <EerieShadow> ?
[07:11] <pztak> NoUse, i wrote it at speed '4' in gnomebaker
[07:11] <d03boy> /dev/hda5       /mnt/fat32      vfat    noauto,user,umask=0     0       0
[07:12] <NoUse> d03boy edit your /etc/fstab file and make umask=0000
[07:12] <d03boy> ok
[07:12] <NoUse> pztak I would verify the ISO image, otherwise it could be a problem with the drive
[07:13] <opiate> nickrud: what did you change it to?
[07:14] <BoneE> how do i impove my system speed
[07:14] <pztak> NoUse, the md5 checksums verify...
[07:14] <intelikey> umask=0 should work.....
[07:14] <pztak> NoUse, the cd-drive or hard-drive?
[07:14] <BoneE> when i run vidz prog it lags
[07:14] <nickrud> opiate, it was a while ago, and I was actually going for the backspace but hit enter (I blame the cat) since I can't reproduce what i did
[07:14] <jesse_cool5> is there anything i need to install to be able to listen to shoutcast streams?
[07:15] <EerieShadow> anyone? how to setup widescreen resolutions in ubuntu?
[07:15] <nickrud> jesse_cool5, get streamtuner and beep-media-player, it's a decent combo
[07:15] <opiate> nickrud: thanks anyways :)
[07:15] <jesse_cool5> nickrud, ok thanks
[07:15] <onkarshinde> BoneE: Do you mean video? What program are you using? Running from CD directly? Have you enabled dma?
[07:16] <BoneE> i run xine
[07:16] <BoneE> everything is on
[07:16] <BoneE> i have a 2.56ghz P4 1gb ram
[07:16] <onkarshinde> jesse_cool5: If you have links of streams then Beep media player is sufficient. Else you need streamtuner
[07:17] <jesse_cool5> onkarshinde, ok i already have the urls
[07:19] <onkarshinde> BoneE: Have you enabled dma?
[07:19] <BoneE> yes
[07:19] <jesse_cool5> i really like the add programs feature
[07:19] <BoneE> thats the werid part
[07:19] <onkarshinde> BoneE: Then I don't see any improvement chance then.
[07:20] <BoneE> even when it runs off the hd
[07:22] <jesse_cool5> is there a way for me to take all the bandwith from the other computers in the network?
[07:23] <d03boy> anyone know that plugin/whatever that makes gimp look like photoshop
[07:23] <La_PaRCa> d03boy, its not a plugins, its a fork of the gimp called gimpshop
[07:24] <onkarshinde> d03boy: I don't know about any plugin but there is something called gimpshop which seems to be fork of gimp
[07:24] <intelikey> d03boy what they said ^
[07:25] <d03boy> not supported by ubuntu it looks like
[07:25] <gee_cee0> hi
[07:25] <jesse_cool5> hi
[07:25] <gee_cee0> anyone willing to help a noob?
[07:25] <jesse_cool5> depends
[07:25] <gee_cee0> umm... on what?
[07:26] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: We all are provided you state your problem clearly.
[07:26] <jesse_cool5> what you need help with
[07:26] <Fushi> Just ask the question bud :)
[07:26] <gee_cee0> ok
[07:26] <gee_cee0> im not sure how u compile a basic c program
[07:26] <gee_cee0> i heard something along the lines of gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:26] <gee_cee0> but doesnt seem to work
[07:27] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: Then first install package build-essential
[07:27] <gee_cee0> installed
[07:27] <gee_cee0> i got gcc
[07:27] <gee_cee0> but no such file or directory found is the error message
[07:27] <gee_cee0> when i go gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:28] <thrice`> gcc -o hello.c?
[07:28] <gee_cee0> same result
[07:28] <gee_cee0> looks like this
[07:28] <gee_cee0> glen@useless:~$ gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:28] <gee_cee0> gcc: hello.c: No such file or directory
[07:28] <gee_cee0> gcc: no input files
[07:28] <gee_cee0> glen@useless:~$
[07:28] <thrice`> you want to compile it?
[07:29] <transgress> umm is there a hello.c?
[07:29] <gee_cee0> yes
[07:29] <gee_cee0> in desktop yes
[07:29] <transgress> are you in desktop?
[07:29] <gee_cee0> ls says Desktop
[07:29] <thrice`> gcc -c hello.c -o hello
[07:29] <Fushi> nope lol
[07:29] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: then you will have to do cd Desktop first.
[07:29] <threeseas> why is it that ubuntu live can connect via wireless but ubuntu installed cannot?
[07:29] <transgress> pwd should say desktop
[07:29] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: 'cd Desktop'
[07:29] <gee_cee0> um ok
[07:29] <thrice`> he needs -c to compile it though!
[07:30] <Toma-> threeseas: different startup scripts
[07:30] <jesse_cool5> threeseas, lol
[07:30] <gee_cee0> ahh i see
[07:30] <thrice`> gee_cee0, work?
[07:30] <gee_cee0> yea it printed hello world
[07:30] <d03boy> so is there a repos thing for gimpshop for ubuntu ro do I need to make my own package using dpkg?
[07:31] <threeseas> second question: why cannot ubuntu live access the installation hard drive (even when it is not lvm)???
[07:31] <Tedd> Who knew I'd be back! I did.
[07:31] <Tedd> Can anybody help me with BlueFish
[07:31] <siriuskr> gah i just lost everything i had on windows because of linux's boot loader lol so i guess im gona format and install linux :P i got a 64bit cpu should i use the 64bit one or the 32 bit ubuntu ?
[07:32] <jesse_cool5> 64
[07:32] <d03boy> siriuskr, are you aware that you can reinstall the windows bootloader?
[07:32] <Tedd> 64 obviously
[07:32] <siriuskr> how ?
[07:32] <Fushi> fdisk /mbr :o
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> d03boy, seems its not on the repos... you can a. get the sources and compile or b. get an rpm and use alien to turn it into a .deb, then use dpkg to install it
[07:32] <d03boy> siriuskr, what version of windows?
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> d03boy, I would recommend b
[07:32] <siriuskr> xp
[07:32] <sudhir> siriuskr : did not use free space fasture of ubuntu while partion
[07:32] <d03boy> La_PaRCa, ok
[07:32] <siriuskr> im reinstalling windows over the old install ill at least get all of my files i hope
[07:33] <Fushi> just get rid of grub
[07:33] <d03boy> siriuskr, boot from the winxp cd and go into the console recovery mode. Use the command fixmbr or fixboot
[07:33] <siriuskr> i screwed the partitions do3boy
[07:33] <Fushi> Wont fdisk /mbr work too?
[07:33] <siriuskr> it wont let me do that just reboots when i try that
[07:33] <d03boy> siriuskr, im pretty sure fixboot will put your winxp partition back  but not linux oens
[07:33] <Tedd> Rrrg
[07:34] <jesse_cool5> Fushi, im pretty sure fdisk isnt in xp
[07:34] <Fushi> in a boot flopy it is :P
[07:34] <siriuskr> the reason i asked which version 64 or 32 cause i wasn't sure if everything driver/program wise was working for 64 bit\
[07:34] <Tedd> Rrrrrg
[07:34] <Tedd> Hmm
[07:34] <Tedd> BlueFish isn't writing over my file
[07:34] <Tedd> files
[07:34] <siriuskr> im using 32 bit now on 2 computers lol
[07:34] <Tedd> Can anybody help me out
[07:35] <Tedd> Bluefish won't write over my .php file, it only makes it x.php~
[07:35] <guupsta> hi
[07:35] <Tedd> So if it's admin.php, it makes another file completely called admin.php~
[07:36] <guupsta> anyone know repositories for these? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs I'm running breezy
[07:36] <threeseas> the prase ubuntu has been getting lately is not good the promotion of linux in general -- seeing how ubuntu breezy has some pretty serious problems.....
[07:36] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[07:36] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:36] <Tedd> Anybody help meh?
[07:37] <Madpilot> guupsta: see ubotu ^^^
[07:37] <somedude> what up ubuntu dudes
[07:37] <Tedd> !bluetooth
[07:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Tedd
[07:37] <guupsta> Madpilot: k. thanks
[07:37] <Tedd> :(
[07:37] <somedude> is ubuntu better than debian
[07:37] <relbs_> Tedd: what do you need to know about bluetooth?
[07:37] <BoneE> ubuntu is base on debian
[07:37] <Tedd> It doesn't write over my files
[07:37] <Tedd> So if it's admin.php, it makes another file completely called admin.php~
[07:37] <Madpilot> Tedd: where are the files? If they're in root, it won't & can't
[07:38] <rcmiv> you know, it's brown.  like the earth.  brown, and nice.
[07:38] <Tedd> They're in desktop/important/v3
[07:38] <Madpilot> Tedd: that's in your own user directory?
[07:38] <Tedd> Yessir.
[07:38] <Madpilot> the files ending in ~ are just backups - it should be writing them and writing to the actual file at the same time
[07:38] <somedude> so ubuntu has everything debian has plus more?
[07:39] <Tedd> oh
[07:39] <Tedd> Really.
[07:39] <Tedd> Hmm
[07:39] <Tedd> Is there a way to turn off backing it up
[07:39] <Slackwise> somedude: Ubuntu == ++Debian
[07:39] <somedude> i think ill have to try it
[07:39] <somedude> im so sick of fedora
[07:39] <Tedd> I reccomend it
[07:39] <Tedd> It's nice
[07:39] <somedude> fedora blows
[07:39] <Tedd> ....
[07:39] <Tedd> SOMEDUDE
[07:39] <Madpilot> Tedd: I think so, have a look in Bluefish's options
[07:39] <Tedd> YOU'RE USING FEDORA?
[07:39] <Slackwise> somedude: It puts Debian to shame.
[07:39] <somedude> i wanted to like fedora
[07:39] <Slackwise> Even though it /is/ Debian.
[07:39] <relbs_> what package do I install/configure to get chinese language support for GTK programs?  Firefox can display chinese text fine, but if I try to use a gtk program (i.e. pydict), the chinese text isn't displayed properly
[07:39] <Tedd> SOMEDUDE.
[07:39] <Tedd> WHAT
[07:39] <Tedd> POSESSED YOU
[07:39] <Tedd> TO DO THAT.
[07:39] <Tedd> Why are you doing that!?
[07:39] <wmon> is there a safe way to upgrade the gnome?
[07:39] <Madpilot> Tedd: enough with the caps, please!
[07:40] <ajmitch_> Tedd: enough caps
[07:40] <Tedd> Sorry. Fedora is like one step above suicide.
[07:40] <somedude> i donno i thought it would be good practice incase i work at a place that uses redhat enterprise
[07:40] <ajmitch_> Tedd: that's a nice opinion, not everyone shares it, it's a great way to incite flamewars
[07:40] <wmon> cause debian's is so old
[07:40] <Tedd> I can't understand why they would do that to themselves. Anywho.
[07:40] <ajmitch_> Tedd: so please don't trash other distros here
[07:40] <Tedd> Teh 'k. Sorry.
[07:40] <somedude> ya thats why i switched from debian like 2 years ago
[07:41] <wmon> Fedora's cool because it has a recent version of Gnome
[07:41] <somedude> debian got too antique for me
[07:41] <Madpilot> wmon: Ubuntu 5.10 includes the newest Gnome, if that's what you mean - 2.12.something...
[07:41] <wmon> oh
[07:41] <wmon> but..
[07:41] <Tedd> Ah, there we go. Backups turned off, Madpilot thanks.
[07:42] <Madpilot> no problem. Off to blow things up in ET...
[07:42] <Tedd> Now I just have to figger out whether or not there's a way to change the background.
[07:42] <Tedd> Staring at black on white is murderous.
[07:42] <n0dl_> how do i mount a usb device
[07:42] <n0dl_> like a digital camera
[07:43] <d03boy> when I run Gimp from the menu nothing happens
[07:44] <d03boy> actually it says "Starting Gimp Image editor" then it disappears
[07:44] <Toma-> n0dl: plug it in, run gtkam
[07:44] <strokey|> d
[07:44] <n0dl_> Toma-,  is gtkan a package
[07:45] <Toma-> n0dl: yes
[07:46] <SoulPropagation> let's say i'm trying to install a package, and it depends on thingomatic-old. but thingomatic-old has been replaced by thingomatic-new. what do i do?
[07:46] <Toma-> file a bug
[07:46] <Toma-> SoulPropagation: what is this hingomatic?
[07:46] <poningru> oh wait I cant do that yet...
[07:47] <gee_cee0> ?
[07:47] <poningru> dont worry about it
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> Toma-: well in my case thingomatic-old is kdelibs4 and thingomatic-new is kdelibs4c2
[07:48] <Toma-> kdelibs4...
[07:48] <brlancer> on all of my ubuntu boxes, it takes forever to mount nfs shares exported from other systems
[07:48] <n0dl_> toma- its not detecting my camera
[07:49] <Toma-> there is some apt magic config you can change but i forget how
[07:49] <sudhir> plz help me installing modem
[07:49] <gee_cee0> really?
[07:49] <brlancer> forever == "greater than a minute, when other systems mount immediately"
[07:49] <Toma-> n0dl: is it coming up in dmesg?
[07:49] <n0dl_> Toma-: dmesg?
[07:49] <coz> morning all
[07:49] <gee_cee0> evening
[07:49] <sudhir> whenever I tried to detect modem, its not detecting
[07:49] <coz> have any of ou had trouble with changing resolutions in ubuntu?
[07:49] <n0dl_> Toma-,  i found the exact model number on the list
[07:50] <sudhir> afternoon
[07:50] <n0dl_> sony cybershot dsc w1
[07:50] <durt> nite all
[07:50] <coz> nite durt
[07:50] <Toma-> n0dl: open up a terminal and run dmesg
[07:50] <n0dl_> dmesg
[07:50] <n0dl_> oh whoops
[07:51] <Toma-> hehe
[07:51] <n0dl_> Toma-,  it says device scan complet
[07:51] <Toma-> also n0dl make sure you have libgphoto2-2 installed and gphoto2
[07:51] <n0dl_> yeah it shows up
[07:51] <n0dl_> sudo synaptic
[07:51] <marcus> i dont want to sound stupid, but i just switched from windows, is there a way i can access my second hard drive that is still in ntfs format?
[07:51] <Toma-> hehe
[07:51] <n0dl_> oh crap
[07:51] <n0dl_> whoops
[07:51] <sudhir> plz check --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5034
[07:51] <n0dl_> lol
[07:51] <Toma-> n0dl: lucky someone didnt type "Password:" :D
[07:52] <sudhir> marcus : mount it
[07:52] <dekela> Hi People
[07:52] <dekela> I am looking for the link to the unofficial ubuntu breezer user guide
[07:52] <marcus> sudhir: it wont delete any contents on it will it?
[07:52] <Tedd> Urr. Anyone know Gedit well?
[07:52] <sudhir> marcus : no
[07:53] <sudhir> ntfs is readonly
[07:53] <d03boy> can I upgrade glibc to 2.3.4 with apt?
[07:53] <marcus> sudhur, thats fine with me, it is all just media anyways, i was just sick and tired of windows and needed a change
[07:53] <melong> dldld
[07:53] <melong>   ??
[07:54] <melong>      ?????
[07:54] <SoulPropagation> !kr
[07:54] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: What?
[07:54] <SoulPropagation> !kr!
[07:54] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: I haven't a clue
[07:54] <n0dl_> Toma-,  it still cant detect it
[07:54] <SoulPropagation> !ubuntu-kr
[07:54] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: Are you smoking crack?
[07:54] <sudhir> marcus : yep open ur fstab
[07:54] <n0dl_> even after libghoto and gphoto
[07:55] <dekela> hey gurus
[07:55] <sudhir> marcus : sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:55] <carlos> hola a todos cual es el canal ubuntu en espaol
[07:55] <dekela> anybody knows what is the link to the unofficial guide for breezer?
[07:55] <Madpilot> !es
[07:55] <marcus> ok ill try this lol i feel like an idiot
[07:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <Toma-> n0dl: my brother has a cybershot and his just plugged in and worked :S you havent changed any hotplug settings have you?
[07:55] <morzel> dekeal: i know a good unofficial guide in hungarian
[07:56] <morzel> :D
[07:56] <sudhir> marcus : np even I am idiot too :)
[07:56] <n0dl_> Toma-,  not that i know of
[07:56] <dooglus> apt-get update fails for me: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:56] <Madpilot> dekela: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:56] <dooglus> is the gb mirror broken?
[07:57] <n0dl_> Toma-,  you sure theere is nothing else i need?
[07:57] <dekela> Madpilot, Thank
[07:57] <marcus> sudhir:  i just know nothing about this, ive grown up with crappy windows all my life, my boss just showed ubuntu to me the other day, i thought i'd give it a shot, i just dispise microsoft
[07:57] <Toma-> i didnt install anything to get the camera to work
[07:57] <carlos> gracias
[07:58] <jv_> hello everybody!
[07:58] <wmon_> I didn't quit..
[07:58] <jv_> i have a question..how will i view the shared folders in a network?
[07:59] <dooglus> jv_: 'network servers' on the 'places' menu
[08:00] <sudhir> marcus : even I shifted 2 weeks before
[08:00] <jhentux> am using ubuntu 5.10, where can i find the terminal?
[08:00] <jv_> thanks!
[08:00] <sudhir> marcus : and yet to configure modem
[08:00] <n0dl_> can someone help me with gtkam
[08:00] <n0dl_> for some reason its not accepting my camera
[08:00] <wmon_> there's a terminal icon in the top panel (it's a monitor looking thing)
[08:01] <gee_cee0> hmm how do u colour ur nick?
[08:01] <jesse_cool5> jhentux, applications, acsesories
[08:01] <jhentux> firefox, evolution and help icon only.
[08:01] <jesse_cool5> jhentux, you have to ad that icon yourself
[08:02] <wmon_> sorry, I went the the menu jesse_cool5 and dragged it there myself
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> is there an equivalent for apt on mac os X?
[08:02] <jhentux> jesse_cool5, thanks
[08:02] <marcus> sudhur:  yeah i havnt set up anything else yet either, i know my printer doesnt work but i figured i would work on that after i can get to my 2nd hard drive, i still cant figure this out
[08:03] <jhentux> how about the root password. when i installed ubuntu it didnt ask me what i want for the root password
[08:03] <jv_> what is the appropriate program for playing mp3 files here?
[08:03] <davethewave> anyone know how to connect to a windows share? it keeps saying I need to login to access my network but I type in my password, it keeps asking me for it
[08:03] <jesse_cool5> jhentux, just type sudo before the command
[08:03] <gee_cee0> but does ubuntu include a root account at all?
[08:03] <aftertaf> jv_:  beep media, xmms, noatun, rhythmbox etc.....
[08:03] <aftertaf> !tell gee_cee0 about sudo
[08:03] <dooglus> gee_cee0: these's a root account, yes
[08:03] <Madpilot> gee_cee0: no, it uses sudo
[08:04] <jv_> ok, thanks..
[08:04] <dooglus> gee_cee0: the password is locked.  that's all.
[08:04] <Fushi> init 1 you get root o.O
[08:04] <Madpilot> jv_: you'll need to add support for mp3 - Ubuntu can't ship with it
[08:04] <gee_cee0> ohh... so can u actually log in as root?
[08:04] <jv_> how?
[08:04] <Madpilot> !tell jv_ about root
[08:04] <jesse_cool5> jv_, download the w32codecs
[08:04] <Fushi> Yeah I can lol
[08:04] <dooglus> Fushi: you sure?  I thought you got a prompt to enter the root password.
[08:04] <Madpilot> !tell jv_ about mp3
[08:04] <NoUse> !tell jv_ about mp3
[08:04] <Madpilot> jv_: sorry, wrong tell... ;)
[08:05] <jv_> np
[08:05] <Fushi> Well you have to sudo init 1
[08:05] <jesse_cool5> !tell jesse_cool5 about !tell
[08:05] <dooglus> Fushi: even then...
[08:05] <d03boy> how do I install glibc 2.3.4+
[08:05] <jhentux> jesse_cool5, how will i use the add applications under the applications menu then? if i click the icon it will ask for a password.
[08:06] <dooglus> jhentux: type your password, not root's
[08:06] <Fushi> By default, root it your password I belive though?
[08:06] <jv_> how can i download w32codecs?from a browser?
[08:06] <Tedd> can somebody help me
[08:06] <Tedd> with GEdit
[08:06] <guestish> hi
[08:06] <aftertaf> re dapper: anyone else cant start x after xorg updates?
[08:06] <jesse_cool5> jv_, use synaptic after you have respoitory
[08:06] <davethewave> anyone have a link for info on how to access a windows share?
[08:07] <aftertaf> davethewave:  with sambe?
[08:07] <Fushi> What kind of share, you mean like //name/$c
[08:07] <aftertaf> !tell davethewave about samba
[08:07] <guestish> whats the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[08:07] <Tedd> !gedit
[08:07] <ubotu> Tedd: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:07] <Madpilot> jv_: the bot should have sent you a msg - check that for all the details
[08:07] <Tedd> Urg.
[08:07] <guestish> ubotu: who owns you?
[08:07] <ubotu> cafuego
[08:07] <guestish> mmm
[08:08] <davethewave> ty
[08:08] <davethewave> :)
[08:08] <Tedd> Sounds delicious.
[08:08] <guestish> ubotu: what are you?
[08:08] <ubotu> guestish: I think you lost me on that one
[08:08] <Madpilot> Tedd: what's up with Gedit?
[08:08] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:08] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:08] <guestish> !blootbot
[08:08] <ubotu> Not a clue, guestish
[08:08] <guestish> dang
[08:08] <guestish> cool
[08:08] <strokey|> anyone here use zd1211wifi with ndiswrapper
[08:08] <guestish> you guys got a blootbot or w/e its called
[08:08] <Tedd> Well, the syntax highlighting wasn't working for bluefish for some reason and it idn't have what I need neway
[08:09] <aftertaf> guestish:  right on ;)
[08:09] <Tedd> And for smoe reason the syntax highlighting for Gedit isn't wokring either
[08:09] <marcus> can anyone help me access my ntfs hard drive??
[08:09] <SoulPropagation> does anyone know how to install opencascade?
[08:09] <guestish> aftertaf: this seriously feels exactly like the debian channel
[08:09] <Madpilot> Tedd: HTML files? PHP? java? what?
[08:09] <Tedd> PHP.
[08:09] <guestish> aftertaf: even the ubuntu installer is the same o_O
[08:09] <guestish> aftertaf: er, as debian, lol
[08:09] <Madpilot> I'm not sure Gedit does PHP; Bluefish should... I haven't done a lot of PHP stuff...
[08:10] <mrkoje> Hello everybody! What is the best way to install 3rd party software? I can't seem to find them using apt-get
[08:10] <jesse_cool5> marcus, http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ have a look there
[08:10] <guestish> Madpilot: gedit is just an editor w/ syntax highlighting, it doesnt do anything
[08:10] <guestish> Madpilot: well i suppose it edits...
[08:10] <Tedd> It has the syntax higlight option for PHP
[08:10] <aftertaf> guestish:  ubuntu is basically a debian with sugar coating
[08:10] <guestish> mrkoje: um...dont is the best option
[08:11] <Tedd> but it's not highlighting
[08:11] <marcus> jesse_cool5:  thank you!
[08:11] <Madpilot> guestish: I know... Tedd was asking about it's highlight, that's all
[08:11] <guestish> aftertaf: what sugar coating?
[08:11] <guestish> Madpilot: ah, missed that
[08:11] <aftertaf> guestish:  each new ubuntu release starts as debian unstable current version
[08:11] <guestish> Tedd: and you manually set it to PHP
[08:11] <Madpilot> aftertaf: "polish", not sugar coating
[08:11] <Tedd> ?
[08:11] <dooglus> aftertaf: I thought it was a chocolate coating
[08:11] <guestish> aftertaf: ya, i know, but i was wondering what the sugar coating/polish was
[08:11] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  depends on what... tho if not in apt, then get some .deb packages.
[08:11] <mrkoje> guestish: What are you talking about don't? Here is an example: I want to install a IAX2 softphone
[08:11] <brlancer> mrkoje: like what? if it's in an apt repository, then that's the best way
[08:11] <guestish> Tedd: how did you tell gedit to syntax highlight php style?
[08:12] <aftertaf> guestish:  the shiny UI, friendlier and works out of the box...;
[08:12] <brlancer> if it's only available as a tarball somewhere, you have to fetch it manually
[08:12] <guestish> mrkoje: 3rd party drivers can be tricky to install and are not recomended unless you wanna really learn how
[08:12] <guestish> aftertaf: shiny UI?
[08:12] <Tedd> Sonovabitch.
[08:12] <Tedd> Thanks
[08:12] <Tedd> I just figured it out
[08:12] <aftertaf> user interface
[08:12] <guestish> Tedd: yeah, np
[08:12] <jv_> i haven't receive msg..is there an easier way?sorry im just new in Linux..im exploring..
[08:12] <mrkoje> brlancer: Iaxcomm is a IAX2 softphone... its not listed in my repos
[08:12] <guestish> aftertaf: looks the same to me...
[08:12] <Tedd> After you said 'set it' I thought the view might d somethin'
[08:12] <Tedd> thanks
[08:12] <mrkoje> another example would be AMsn
[08:12] <guestish> mrkoje: drivers are handled at the kernel level, which you can only access as root
[08:13] <aftertaf> guestish:  yeah but stuff just works (tm), whereas in debian you grind away for hours before it wiorks ;)
[08:13] <mrkoje> Guestish: Im not installing any drivers for hardware
[08:13] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[08:13] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[08:13] <guestish> aftertaf: not really...the installer is the same, the package frontends are the same...its all the same...
[08:13] <aftertaf> guestish:  true, but not true... ;)
[08:13] <guestish> mrkoje: for programs ubuntu uses a format called "deb" to package them and installing 3rd party debs is anything but recomended
[08:13] <guestish> aftertaf: heh, ubuntu even uses debian-installer, i seen no sugar coating =p
[08:14] <aftertaf> guestish:  give a sarge cd to a n00b and he wont have X and automounting usb drives on install
[08:14] <mcc> does anyone know... my mac supports these "local" domain names, like "mymac.local", which anyone on the same subnet can access.
[08:14] <guestish> aftertaf: yes he will...
[08:14] <mcc> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to support these?
[08:14] <mrkoje> is ubuntu uses debian
[08:14] <davethewave> the site says "open the Computer menu, then click on "network" I don't have a computer menu, just Applications, Places, System
[08:14] <guestish> mrkoje: its a subset
[08:14] <aftertaf> guestish:  I didnt ;)
[08:14] <guestish> aftertaf: this before or after D-I?
[08:14] <dooglus> mrkoje: amsn is in the repositories
[08:14] <jv_> ok il download it..
[08:14] <aftertaf> giestD-I ?
[08:14] <d03boy> davethewave, try them all
[08:14] <mrkoje> dooglus: Do I have to add repositories to find it
[08:14] <guestish> aftertaf: debian-installer, what you use to install debian/ubuntu
[08:14] <dooglus> mrkoje: you need to enable the 'universe' repository to get it, yes
[08:15] <dooglus> !universe
[08:15] <ubotu> [repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[08:15] <mrkoje> dooglus: thanks
[08:15] <aftertaf> guestish:  i havent installed debian since woody... things may have changed
[08:15] <guestish> mrkoje: a "repository" is a website w/ all the software, it must be accessable in order to get software
[08:15] <guestish> aftertaf: if you installed ubuntu you basically installed sarge with the new installer...
[08:15] <guestish> aftertaf: hence my question
[08:15] <guestish> :)
[08:16] <guestish> not that sarge w/ an installer is a bad thing
[08:16] <gar-> hmmm
[08:16] <dooglus> davethewave: it's called 'places'
[08:16] <aftertaf> guestish:  oki.... :)
[08:16] <gar-> i cant upgrade i get alot of problem =/
[08:16] <guestish> mcc: um, i dont know what mac os X uses for networking, but if its samba, nfs or even apple talk ( i think) its possible to set it up
[08:16] <guestish> aftertaf: =D
[08:17] <guestish> mcc: just gotta figure out which
[08:17] <jhentux> am trying to install nvidia driver, it says i don't have ld installed.
[08:17] <aftertaf> whats the webmin text file i can edit to change which IPs can access my machine remotely?
[08:17] <guestish> jhentux: you need to be root...
[08:17] <mcc> guest, i think it's "zeroconf"
[08:17] <guestish> aftertaf: dont use webmin
[08:17] <aftertaf> jhentux:  try the nvidia factoid
[08:17] <pztak> on a laptop, how can i 'turn off' the lcd.. make it go black?
[08:17] <aftertaf> !tell jhentux about nvidia
[08:17] <guestish> mcc: zeroconf is a conf tool, as it states in the name
[08:17] <mcc> guest: it's normal tcp/ip. it is just that it has some kind of thing where machines can automatically discover each other's names on the same network
[08:17] <jhentux> aftertaf, what's that?
[08:17] <wmon_> g'night all
[08:17] <guestish> mcc: though i could be mistaken, and tcp/ip is a lower level then the protocol
[08:17] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[08:17] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:18] <threeseas> can someone tell me what files I'm looking for to determine how to get wlan to work on the installed ubuntu -- like it does on the live cd?
[08:18] <Madpilot> jhentux: see above ^^^
[08:18] <jesse_cool5> !ati
[08:18] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:18] <aftertaf> guestish:  im on ssh to it right now, and i wanna check out a couple of things, buit i get blocked from work.
[08:18] <guestish> threeseas: depends on the card's chipset...
[08:18] <jhentux> guestish, i typed sudo sh NVIDIA.....
[08:18] <guestish> aftertaf: change the port from the default 22
[08:18] <davethewave> it didn't work, it just keeps asking for my login info, and I enter it.. then it asks again *loop*
[08:18] <aftertaf> jhentux:  try the ubuntu packages, not the website ones.....
[08:18] <guestish> jhentux: read the nvidia howto, if you still have questions come back
[08:18] <jv_> i already downloaded w32codecs.deb..what's next?it can't open through archive manager..
[08:18] <aftertaf> guestish:  eh?
[08:18] <aftertaf> jv_:  you dont... you use dpkg
[08:18] <intmainvoid> Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:19] <guestish> aftertaf: sounds like they are blocking port 22, just change ports on the server
[08:19] <Madpilot> guestish: remember that Ubuntu uses "sudo" rather than a root user
[08:19] <aftertaf> jv_:  dpkg -i yourdebfile.deb
[08:19] <guestish> Madpilot: all ends up in the same place
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> whats the name of the package that has the basic stuff to build programs from source?
[08:19] <aftertaf> guestish:  nope not that. i AM on ssh to it,
[08:19] <gar-> do ubunto have qmake or qt???? or is supported
[08:19] <crimsun> build-essential, La_PaRCa
[08:19] <jv_> you mean i'l to the terminal like dos prompt in windows?
[08:19] <threeseas> guestish: the cards chipset is the same.... the only thing changing is they method of booting --- from live CD or installed
[08:19] <guestish> aftertaf: then why do you need webmin?
[08:19] <jv_> you mean i'l go to the terminal like dos prompt in windows?
[08:19] <aftertaf> jv_:  oh yeah :] 
[08:19] <intmainvoid> Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:19] <guestish> threeseas: and this chipset is...?
[08:19] <gar-> !qt
[08:19] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[08:19] <guestish> threeseas: (hint, use lspci)
[08:19] <aftertaf> guestish:  i wanna check out some stuff remotely, with a gui ;)
[08:19] <guestish> aftertaf: mm, webmin isnt a gui
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: its a lousy way of configuring things :)
[08:20] <davethewave> I will file a bug :)
[08:20] <jv_> what directory can i find the downloaded file?
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: vi and nano all the way
[08:20] <jesse_cool5> jv_, depends where you downloaded it to
[08:20] <Fushi> lol
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: its not a hair, using webmin is like using a crutch with the top as a spike
[08:20] <aftertaf> jv_:  depends where you d/led to.. try your home directory
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: anything breaks and your dead =P
[08:21] <jv_> whats the default directory for that?
[08:21] <guestish> jv_: ~
[08:21] <threeseas> guestish: acx 111
[08:21] <guestish> jv_: its to the left of 1
[08:21] <jesse_cool5> jv_, have a look on your desktop can you see the icon?
[08:21] <benoy> is there a way for totem to play wmv files?
[08:21] <aftertaf> guestish:  right now i dont have X on my home pc anyway. i wanted to check some things out thats all.
[08:21] <intmainvoid> Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:21] <guestish> threeseas: sadly you gotta use ndiswrapper
[08:21] <gar-> do ubuntu have qmake or qt???? or is supported
[08:21] <guestish> !tell threeseas about ndiswrapper
[08:22] <guestish> gar-: sure, download and install them
[08:22] <Madpilot> benoy: it will, yes
[08:22] <Madpilot> !tell benoy about restricted
[08:22] <threeseas> guestish: so the live cd uses the ndiswrapper?
[08:22] <guestish> aftertaf: im just sayin, either use a real gui or use a console and edit text files, dont use webmin, just my opinion
[08:22] <guestish> threeseas: i would assume so, but i dont know for sure
[08:23] <mrkoje> that worked great!
[08:23] <guestish> aftertaf: your comp, do w/e you think is best
[08:23] <mrkoje> however for software that isn't in the repos I guess I will just have to compile my self
[08:23] <mrkoje> or figure out some other way of installing it
[08:23] <guestish> mrkoje: yes and no
[08:23] <mrkoje> guestish: please go on
[08:23] <guestish> mrkoje: be very careful, installing 3rd party software has a tendency to screw up machines, i know, i've done it, lol
[08:24] <intmainvoid>  Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:24] <guestish> mrkoje: keep EVERYTHING seperate, all 3rd party and ubuntu software
[08:24] <guestish> mrkoje: usually most people use /usr/local, but it really doesnt matter, im sure there are some guides on it
[08:24] <mrkoje> guestish: where should I install it....   usr/local
[08:24] <siriuskr> xorg configer command ????
[08:24] <mpm23> I've been happily using Ubuntu for about 11 months now, but was wondering if a more experienced user could explain to me the purpose of converting a program from source to debian package, what's the reasoning behind that?
[08:24] <threeseas> guestish: actually before my system got crapped out I was using the ndiwrapper but I also had to remove the acx driver installed as a default -- which is supposed to work for the chipset
[08:24] <jesse_cool5> intmainvoid, your probably better off making a post in the forums then sitting here asking the same question over and over
[08:24] <mrkoje> guestish: Thats where I have been installing the software is usr/local
[08:24] <siriuskr> x org configure comand what was it ?
[08:24] <guestish> threeseas: if you found a driver, use it
[08:24] <intmainvoid> jesse_cool5:  I'm kind of doing both.
[08:24] <benoy> how would I install vlc?
[08:24] <jhentux> is there a tutorial or ebook that i can download about ubuntu? suse have so with freebsd. but i didnt try those. this is my first time with linux. tnx
[08:25] <guestish> mrkoje: um, ubuntu software (debs) install in /usr iirc...could be wrong
[08:25] <mrkoje> guestish: got that tip out of the fc2 for dummies book
[08:25] <jesse_cool5> intmainvoid, ok then
[08:25] <La_PaRCa> siriuskr, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:25] <guestish> jhentux: i can give you a very large debian one which would be similar except in very specialized circumstances
[08:25] <Madpilot> jhentux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:25] <mrkoje> guestish: cool... thanks for the help
[08:25] <mrkoje> guestish: Im somewhat proficient in linux... just not that adept at using package managers :(
[08:25] <threeseas> guestish: you would know how I might deterime what driver this live cd is using???
[08:26] <gar-> guestish,  there is one thing i dont undestand about the installation
[08:26] <d03boy> upgrading to breezy is going to take a while :|
[08:26] <guestish> jhentux: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[08:26] <guestish> mrkoje: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[08:26] <La_PaRCa> yes it is
[08:26] <guestish> mrkoje: read up :)
[08:26] <rob_p> bye
[08:26] <guestish> threeseas: er, the only thing i can say is boot up the cd and take a look at lsmod and see if anything looks wlan driverish
[08:27] <mpm23> exit
[08:27] <mrkoje> guestish: I'll have to read the debian part... hey I do know it was created by Debrah and Ian
[08:27] <mrkoje> hence DebIan
[08:27] <guestish> mrkoje: cool
[08:28] <guestish> mrkoje: er, this one is better: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[08:28] <strokey|> meh, i dont think im ever gonne get internet on linux :_:
[08:28] <guestish> strokey|: wireless?
[08:28] <strokey|> yea
[08:28] <strokey|> i have the drivers installed with ndiswarpper
[08:28] <guestish> strokey|: open xterm
[08:28] <strokey|> but when i activate it, linux goes -really- laggy
[08:28] <mrkoje> guestish: thanks
[08:28] <strokey|> and crashes when i boot down
[08:29] <strokey|> xterm?
[08:29] <guestish> strokey|: you in gnome?
[08:29] <guestish> strokey|: type: alt f2
[08:29] <mrkoje> guestish: Im new to apt...have been using yellow dog on fedora for a while though
[08:29] <guestish> strokey|: once the run prompt is open type in xterm and click run
[08:29] <guestish> mrkoje: well that guide should help w/ basic syntax
[08:30] <guestish> mrkoje: the second one
[08:30] <strokey|> guestish: i cant be on irc in linux, i have no internet :E
[08:30] <guestish> strokey|: okay, well then i guess write this down or something
[08:30] <strokey|> so just press alt+2f2
[08:30] <strokey|> f2
[08:30] <strokey|> and click run?
[08:30] <guestish> strokey|: alt   f2, run xterm, type in lspci, look for your card and write down the entire line
[08:30] <mrkoje> ya
[08:31] <guestish> strokey|: then come back and type it into irc
[08:31] <jv_> aftertar: what's next?i unpacked the deb file..i tried to open the mp3 file but something wrong again..
[08:31] <guestish> strokey|: i need to know the chipset =\
[08:31] <strokey|> i think i have that somewere
[08:31] <guestish> strokey|: ndiswrapper works very badly, but theres a chance your chipset has native linux drivers
[08:31] <jv_> do i need to restart the computer?
[08:32] <guestish> strokey|: madwifi and hostap has some good drivers for a good number of cards
[08:32] <strokey|> its not some linksys/realtek thing tho
[08:32] <siriuskr> what was that one ati driver called fglx or something ???
[08:32] <guestish> strokey|: hurry up though...im going to bed soon..
[08:32] <strokey|> ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11b/g USB WLAN chipset
[08:32] <threeseas> guestish: lsmod shows acx-pci  and I know its installed (I'm running from the live cd here) but I need to figure out how to get it to work on the installed.... shrug
[08:32] <strokey|> thats the chipset
[08:33] <guestish> threeseas: if its just detecting it improperly "modprobe acx-pci" should work...
[08:33] <siriuskr> what was that one ati driver called fglx or something ???
[08:33] <intelikey> ok maybe i'm caught up now....
[08:33] <mpm23> any pros here tell me the reason for installing via dpkg versus make and .configure?
[08:33] <Madpilot> sirexas: fglrx
[08:33] <siriuskr> k
[08:34] <guestish> strokey|: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zd1211wifi
[08:34] <strokey|> read that
[08:34] <guestish> strokey|: just follow those instructions and you should be good
[08:34] <strokey|> no worky
[08:34] <strokey|> get lots of errors while compiling
[08:34] <guestish> it didnt work w/ the native linux drivers?
[08:34] <guestish> strokey|: you need to install build-essential
[08:34] <strokey|> ive instaleld that
[08:35] <strokey|> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[08:35] <strokey|> i did that
[08:35] <intelikey> mpm23 i don't recon myself a pro but if the package is in the repos you will find it much easier and often works better than trying to compile it your self,  but it is your software.
[08:35] <guestish> strokey|: install gcc-3.4
[08:35] <strokey|> did that too
[08:35] <guestish> strokey|: and do export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before compiling
[08:35] <strokey|> well, install gcc
[08:35] <strokey|> do that in console? ;d
[08:35] <guestish> strokey|: gcc is 4.0, you need to use 3.4
[08:35] <guestish> strokey|: yes, in console
[08:35] <strokey|> oh
[08:35] <strokey|> maybe thats were i went wrong
[08:35] <strokey|> ;o
[08:35] <guestish> strokey|: says in the errata section
[08:36] <davethewave> I dunno, samba don't work.. are there alternatives to samba?
[08:36] <guestish> strokey|: only works w/ 5.04 due to gcc issue...
[08:36] <guestish> strokey|: gcc is tricky like that
[08:36] <guestish> strokey|: it likes to break stuff every version chance
[08:36] <strokey|> so just
[08:36] <strokey|> CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before compiling
[08:36] <guestish> strokey|: change*
[08:36] <strokey|> straight into console?
[08:37] <rcmiv> samba don't work...idiot
[08:37] <guestish> strokey|: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:37] <guestish> strokey|: make sure /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is installed first
[08:37] <guestish> strokey|: i think its just sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:38] <guestish> man the ubuntu website is slow today..
[08:38] <intelikey> hmmm an idiot ?
[08:38] <rcmiv> sorry but ...idiot
[08:38] <strokey|> ill go try that now guestish
[08:38] <guestish> strokey|: gl
[08:38] <strokey|> brb ;d
[08:38] <guestish> rcmiv: you cant get samba to work?
[08:39] <mpm23> intelikey thanks, I was thinking of things where it's not in the repos but I can find a guide online (forums, wiki) for turning the source into a debian package for installation with dpkg... I was wondering what I gained by doing it so that apt-get is aware of it versus a manual make & ./configure...
[08:39] <guestish> rcmiv: i'd try smbfs, i perfer it personally (mounts a virtual fs)
[08:39] <intelikey> mpm23 the ability to use apt to remove or upgrade it later
[08:39] <siriuskr> how to update from command line ?
[08:40] <guestish> siriuskr: sudo apt-get update
[08:40] <siriuskr> thanks
[08:40] <guestish> siriuskr: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[08:40] <guestish> mmm...docs...
[08:40] <guestish> i hate'm, but they're neccesary
[08:41] <guestish> tis life
[08:41] <siriuskr> gosh dammit i hate atis crap on linux
[08:41] <intelikey> a doc burning ?
[08:41] <mpm23> ok intelikey thanks again, I guess it makes sense, but I don't know how apt-get could upgrade something that's not a part of the repos anyway, I guess the removal argument is the best argument I can grok right now...
[08:41] <Madpilot> siriuskr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:41] <guestish> mpm23: it cant...
[08:41] <guestish> mpm23: it can remove, but not upgrade
[08:42] <siriuskr> xserver never starts from a fresh install on this x800 card with the basic drivers so i have to do it from command line and i forgot what i did last time to get it working
[08:42] <intelikey> you would use the same process and make the update a .deb  maybe ?
[08:42] <guestish> siriuskr: startx /usr/bin/gnome-session
[08:42] <mpm23> guestish and how would you remove something that you installed from source without dpkg? is there a way?
[08:42] <Madpilot> siriuskr: the command-line rescue stuff is on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:42] <guestish> intelikey: dpkg installs .debs, apt-get installs from repositories
[08:42] <guestish> mpm23: remove the files manually
[08:43] <guestish> mpm23: this is why there are packaging systems with central databases
[08:43] <intelikey> that you could set file://blah
[08:43] <guestish> intelikey: setting up a local repository is overkill for installing a deb
[08:43] <guestish> intelikey: or w/e else you were thinking
[08:43] <guestish> intelikey: just use deb
[08:43] <guestish> er, dpkg
[08:44] <guestish> mpm23: or like i said earlier, install everything from source SEPERATELY from everything else so if all else fails just prune the whole tree...
[08:44] <mpm23> guestish ok thanks, what's your take on the value of a deb versus a source code filemanually?  (As in Sun's Java conversion from bin to debian on the wiki)
[08:44] <intelikey> i agree but it but that was not the point.  the question was what advantage would there be in making a .deb -vs- make
[08:45] <d03boy> you can uninstall a deb if I understand correctly
[08:45] <aftertaf> guestish:  do you know what the file is that i can edit via ssh for webmin access?
[08:45] <siriuskr> it says cannot find package when i type sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ...
[08:45] <guestish> aftertaf: if you couldnt tell yet i dont use webmin...
[08:45] <guestish> d03boy: yep...
[08:45] <guestish> mpm23: ?
[08:46] <intelikey> with most tarballs you can use make uninstall also..... so if uninstall is the only advantage, there isn't one.
[08:46] <guestish> mpm23: a deb is a binary package, a source deb is a source package if thats what you mean
[08:46] <guestish> intelikey: make uninstall is unreliable
[08:46] <gar-> is there any good wireless management program for ubuntu???
[08:46] <guestish> intelikey: ???
[08:46] <guestish> intelikey: and wtf are you talking about, deb and make are two completely different tools used for two completely different things
[08:47] <siriuskr> it says cannot find package when i type sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ...
[08:47] <intelikey> you don't know
[08:47] <guestish> intelikey: i dont know what?
[08:47] <gar-> anyone know any good program for manager the wireless connection example scan for ssid
[08:47] <guestish> intelikey: do you even know what a deb IS?
[08:47] <mrkoje> siriuskr:  have you enabled universe repositories?
[08:47] <guestish> gar-: man iwlist
[08:47] <mrkoje> that was my problem earlier
[08:47] <onispawn> gar-: iwlist <dev> scan
[08:47] <guestish> gar-: in a console
[08:47] <siriuskr> mrkoje: and to do this from command line how ?
[08:47] <intelikey> what i'm talking about.
[08:48] <guestish> intelikey: i dont actually
[08:48] <gar-> but im trying to look one with graphical interface
[08:48] <mrkoje> ask guestish: Im not sure what the config file is
[08:48] <mrkoje> hold on
[08:48] <onispawn> gar-:prismstumbler, kismet. but they dont work with all wireless cards
[08:48] <guestish> siriuskr: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[08:48] <mpm23> guestish intelikey was trying to help me with my question which was this: I'm installing Sun's Java and on the wiki there's a place that describes how to build a deb from the sourcecode... I was wondering what the advantage of building the deb file is versus just using make and intelikey suggest (I think) that perhaps the advantage lay in the simple power to use dpkg to remove the whole thing at a later date...
[08:48] <guestish> siriuskr: read the /etc/sources.list section
[08:48] <skazza> ciao
[08:49] <mrkoje> siriuskr: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[08:49] <mrkoje> strokey| meh, i dont
[08:49] <guestish> mpm23: theres a tool called jpkg (iirc) that you use
[08:49] <strokey> guestish
[08:49] <gar-> onispawn, im working with a rt2500 wireles usb adapter
[08:49] <mrkoje> thats what guestish gave me to look over..
[08:49] <guestish> mpm23: and java is distrubted binary only...
[08:49] <strokey> if i think it was you who helped me :E
[08:49] <guestish> strokey: ya, it was, any luck?
[08:49] <strokey> nope
[08:49] <guestish> mrkoje: useful isnt it? :)
[08:49] <strokey> it says, package could not be found
[08:49] <guestish> strokey: dang...
[08:49] <strokey> with apt-get install
[08:49] <onispawn> gar-: I dont know what cards they support. you can look on google, or just try them
[08:49] <guestish> strokey: well you have no internet
[08:49] <mrkoje> guestish: of course
[08:50] <strokey> i can make it access my windows drive tho! ><
[08:50] <guestish> strokey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/devel/gcc-3.4
[08:50] <guestish> strokey: use a floppy, usb key, or a cd
[08:50] <guestish> strokey: most likely usb key or a cd would work best
[08:50] <guestish> strokey: dvd even if you can
[08:50] <strokey> its like, 4mb
[08:50] <guestish> strokey: dont forget the dependencies
[08:50] <iluciv> Hi I want to be able to access some old ide drives I have (I'll be plugging in and trying to look at their contents to see if I should delete or backup) can anyone hep
[08:51] <strokey> guestish: which one(s) do i download?
[08:51] <ssdo_> hello
[08:51] <guestish> strokey: everything with a red circle to the left of it till there are no circles left
[08:51] <mpm23> guestish, yes I'm in the process of converting that using jpkg... I didn't mean for the query to last this long, I was simply trying to understand Why it's important to convert it to a deb rather than installing it as-is
[08:51] <strokey> all 5 of them!?
[08:51] <strokey> :O
[08:51] <wezzer> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/0,39023100,39237495,00.htm
[08:51] <guestish> mpm23: because you can uninstall it and debian packages need it for dependency issues
[08:51] <wezzer> ubuntu won :)
[08:52] <ssdo_> i am in ubuntu using enlightenment 16 as wm because of low ram. is there any docker or launcher i can use in e16?
[08:52] <guestish> mpm23: its gonna ask you to install java if it doesnt know its installed ( you used the install script instead of the deb file)
[08:52] <Corrupter> what are some good User Interfaces?
[08:52] <iluciv> mounting fat/vfat partitions shouldn't be hard eh
[08:52] <guestish> mpm23: get what im saying?
[08:52] <guestish> iluciv: should automount...
[08:52] <mpm23> guestish... thanks that answers everything.
[08:52] <guestish> mpm23: np, glad your question got answered...
[08:53] <iluciv> thats what I thought but it is there picked up by the os just inaccessable
[08:53] <guestish> iluciv: drives could be dead
[08:53] <iluciv> not in fstab or
[08:53] <boris> hi all. i can't find xorgcfg under breezy ? What can I do ?
[08:53] <guestish> iluciv: check cfdisk
[08:53] <devnul> free internet is the best internet...
[08:53] <mpm23> :-) thanks to everyone in here helping you all make this the most oustanding software in the world!
[08:54] <guestish> iluciv: it'll give you a list of the partitions and their types
[08:54] <guestish> iluciv: if you get nothing then theres nothing there =\
[08:54] <guestish> test
[08:54] <gar-> how do i load a insmod automatic when boot
[08:55] <guestish> well that was fun
[08:55] <gar-> im trying to load a driver automaticaly and them load the device when boot
[08:55] <iluciv> guestish: do you mean just cfdisk in terminal cause I just get fatal error cannont open disk drive or do I have to specifiy a particular hdddisk
[08:55] <guestish> iluciv: gotta specify the disks
[08:55] <guestish> iluciv: it'll give you a partition list
[08:55] <guestish> iluciv: btw, dont overwrite the partition table
[08:56] <benguin> hey guys and gals.. anyone use a HP zx5000 class laptop here?
[08:56] <guestish> iluciv: you'll hate yourself if you do that
[08:56] <guestish> !laptops
[08:56] <ubotu> guestish: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:56] <guestish> !laptop
[08:56] <ubotu> I heard laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[08:56] <guestish> ubotu: you arent a friendly bot are you?
[08:56] <ubotu> guestish: I think you lost me on that one
[08:56] <iluciv> lol I think I know what that does
[08:56] <guestish> !tell benguin about laptop
[08:56] <guestish> iluciv: =D
[08:56] <guestish> iluciv: well then you're set
[08:56] <rob_p> boris:  Use, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" instead of xorgcfg.
[08:57] <benguin> thanks
[08:57] <guestish> its so quiet...
[08:57] <guestish> benguin: np
[08:57] <boris> rob_p, thx, i did, but i'd like to know where is xorgcfg gone. i used it once and found it quite usefull
[08:57] <benguin> although this laptop isnt there .. yet
[08:58] <guestish> benguin: man that sucks...
[08:58] <benguin> i have a kinda specific question anyway
[08:58] <guestish> boris: well im sure you could download it from somewhere
[08:58] <benguin> trying to get suspend2 working
[08:58] <guestish> benguin: ask away!
[08:58] <rob_p> boris:  Not installed by default I'm afraid!  However, you could probably go and get it.
[08:58] <guestish> benguin: give the channel all the juicy details
[08:58] <benguin> and the io_apic thing is being a pain
[08:58] <strokey> guestish
[08:58] <guestish> benguin: ew, apic
[08:58] <benguin> i actually posted in the forum today
[08:58] <guestish> strokey: mm?
[08:58] <strokey> if i have a cd floppy
[08:58] <boris> rob_p, okay, i'll try that. But I don't understand why it's gone with breezy
[08:58] <strokey> what do i do once im in linux? ;x
[08:59] <gar-> guestish,  do u know how i can load a .ko driver and bring up the devices on boot????
[08:59] <guestish> strokey: uh, should show up on the desktop, just drag the files somewhere...
[08:59] <guestish> strokey: then its sudo dpkg -i <instert deb names here>
[08:59] <strokey> and then? apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?
[08:59] <akonkwa> Hi everybody
[08:59] <benguin> basically.. no selecting io_apic option in the kernel makes it work..
[08:59] <strokey> oh ;o
[08:59] <guestish> strokey: then its sudo dpkg -i <insert path to deb names here>
[08:59] <rob_p> boris:  I just did an apt-cache search for it and it doesn't even return any results... perhaps it's been depreciated?
[08:59] <guestish> strokey: second one
[08:59] <benguin> but that ruins audio/usb and more weird stuff
[08:59] <gar-> guestish,  do u know how i can load a .ko driver and bring up the devices on boot????
[08:59] <guestish> gar-: if you ask once more you're going on ignore...
[09:00] <benguin> enabling io_apic makes everything okay.. but no suspend2
[09:00] <gar-> sorry them
[09:00] <gar-> bah
[09:00] <strokey> on that webpage guestish
[09:00] <strokey> theres all them files
[09:00] <iluciv> guestish: would a command like "cfdisk -P hdd1" print the partition table of the desired drive??
[09:00] <boris> rob_p, yep, did that too. No information on the web site  : (
[09:00] <guestish> heh
[09:00] <strokey> then "download gcc 3.4"
[09:00] <guestish> gar-: sec
[09:00] <strokey> cant i just get that?
[09:00] <guestish> iluciv: dunno
[09:00] <guestish> strokey: you need gcc-3.4 and everything it depends on
[09:00] <intelikey> gar- put it in /etc/modules  maybe ?
[09:00] <strokey> so that
[09:01] <strokey> and all the onces with red next to them>
[09:01] <gar-> try that already notting happen
[09:01] <iluciv> guestish:ah it keeps giving me fatasl errors
[09:01] <akonkwa> Does anyone know if I can find a straght forward video editing tool like Windows Movie maKer? Basically what I would like to be able to do is : copy a dv film on my computer using firewire, then cut different scenes, and  maybe add on a audio track
[09:01] <guestish> iluciv: er, yeah, drive is dead...
[09:01] <guestish> strokey: yup
[09:01] <aftertaf> akonkwa:  kino. i use it fine
[09:02] <intelikey> gar- uf you can load it via modprob  or insmod  script it and stick it in the init scripts
[09:02] <aftertaf> akonkwa:  firewire & all the tralala.
[09:02] <guestish> gar-: nonono, stick it in /etc/modules
[09:02] <guestish> gar-: just the name, make sure its in the module path though
[09:02] <akonkwa> aftertaf: thanx
[09:02] <guestish> gar-: the file
[09:02] <aftertaf> ;)
[09:02] <gar-> this what i have alias rausb0 rt2570 on /etc/devices
[09:02] <strokey> sudo dpkg -i desktop
[09:02] <strokey> and it would install .debs on desktop?
[09:02] <akonkwa> aftertaf: where can I find Kino?
[09:03] <guestish> strokey: um...no?
[09:03] <strokey> eh
[09:04] <gar-> any clue
[09:04] <strokey> what would i write then, if they were all on desktop
[09:04] <guestish> strokey: read up on dpkg docs
[09:06] <drcode> I have using dhcpclient for internet and I also have lan , if I put static route, the dhcp client take it off
[09:06] <drcode> any idea what I can do?
[09:06] <akonkwa> aftertaf: where can I find Kino?
[09:06] <guestish> strokey: its cd <path to desktop> then dpkg -i *.deb (to install all packages in the current directory)
[09:06] <guestish> strokey: but you need to learn to use dpkg...
[09:06] <aftertaf> !info kino
[09:06] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 725 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[09:07] <guestish> well night all!
[09:07] <guestish> :)
[09:07] <aftertaf> night guestish  ;
[09:07] <aftertaf> akonkwa:  in synaptic....
[09:07] <aftertaf> akonkwa:  or type sudo apt-get install kino
[09:08] <gar-> guestish, is telling me to do this Create and edit 'ifcfg-rausb0' file in /etc/sysconfig but there is sysconfig on etc
[09:08] <akonkwa> aftertaf: thanx
[09:08] <guestish> strokey: http://linuxreviews.org/man/dpkg/
[09:08] <guestish> gar-: g'night, and g/l w/ your problem
[09:08] <gar-> wow
[09:08] <gar-> thanks
[09:12] <drcode> any one can do ping www.opensync.org
[09:12] <drcode> I cant get to there web site
[09:13] <intelikey>  Welcome to OpenSync - A synchronization framework
[09:13] <drcode> yes
[09:14] <drcode> I do ping OPensync and no lack
[09:14] <intelikey> i didn't ping it i opened it with a browser.
[09:16] <smelly_> i installed fluxbox after a fresh install of ubuntu, and i was wondering how to get fluxbox to be my default windowmanager
[09:16] <smelly_> i got rid of gdm in all the rc dirs
[09:16] <smelly_> but i forget how to get the startx script to work
[09:16] <intelikey> .wmrc
[09:17] <tiago> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu today, if some one has the time to guide me threw configuring xorg?
[09:19] <tiago> when i open xorg.conf its empty, is that normal?
[09:19] <wezzer> nope
[09:19] <tiago> im using 5.10
[09:20] <intelikey> sure seeing that the file that x uses is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:20] <dooglus> smelly_: 'startx fluxbox'?
[09:20] <smelly_> will that create the .xinitrc file in my home dir?
[09:21] <dooglus> smelly_: nope
[09:21] <smelly_> from the basic install, it doesnt have a .xinitrc file
[09:21] <tiago> oh thanx intelikey, i found it where you said
[09:21] <mrkoje> tiago: how are you looking at the file
[09:21] <intelikey> smelly_  echo 'fluxbox' > .wmrc        then startx
[09:22] <tiago> i was typing "sudo gedit xorg.conf"
[09:22] <intelikey> :)
[09:22] <tiago> im a linux nub, i was trying to see if i knew the command
[09:22] <smelly_> thx
[09:22] <mrkoje> tiago: if you use   #: vim whateverfile/xorg.conf then you will just end up creating a file called xorg.conf in whatever directory your in
[09:22] <mrkoje> tiago: It won't write the file if you don't save it though
[09:23] <tiago> ok cool
[09:23] <dooglus> tiago: cd to /etc/X11 first
[09:23] <mrkoje> tiago: yup :)
[09:23] <tiago> lol i could allways do it using the gui
[09:23] <tiago> every one allways shows me the hard way, when there is a gui way :P
[09:23] <dooglus> tiago: the gui is the hard way in my opinion.
[09:24] <dooglus> tiago: since it changes whenever the gui changes
[09:24] <tiago> windows has made me stupid xD
[09:24] <mrkoje> tiago: if your using a command line editor such as vi, vim etc... make sure you save the file as   /etc/X11/xorg.conf also
[09:24] <dooglus> there are so many different gui file selectors
[09:24] <tiago> im used to adapting to my ever changing desktop environment :P
[09:24] <mrkoje> tiago: that really doesn't apply if your already in the directory... but if you open it while in a different directory then you will have problems
[09:25] <La_PaRCa> tiago, plus, its easy for us to explain the CLI way
[09:25] <tiago> ok brb guys thanx for the help :)
[09:25] <tiago> yes im sure it is :P lol your all bloody to smart for your own good ;) jk
[09:25] <mrkoje> tiago: I wish
[09:26] <mrkoje> I AM SICK of poorly written windows programs
[09:26] <mrkoje> they are all crap!!!!!!!
[09:26] <mrkoje> uggh... trying to fix a windows xp machine via vnc... mucho problemas
[09:27] <tiago> oh one final question
[09:27] <mrkoje> tiago: shoot
[09:27] <tiago> after i enable composit in xorg will it work with gnome?
[09:27] <gar-> one question why the GLIB is not intalled and i want to know how to install it
[09:27] <tiago> i have never done it in gnome before
[09:28] <intelikey> without glibc your pinguin would sufficate
[09:28] <topyli> tiago: i don't think it matters which desktop you are using
[09:29] <tiago> how come it wont let me edit xorg.conf?
[09:29] <mrkoje> tiago: try sudo
[09:30] <mccbaka> is "apt-cache search blah" the normal way of searcing for "blah" related packages in ubuntu?
[09:30] <tiago> im using the gui :S
[09:30] <intelikey> why doesn't ubotu have a search function ?    to search for packages, it has an info function, but no search ?????
[09:30] <mrkoje> tiago: ok, make sure you have permissions
[09:30] <mrkoje> tiago: what gui editor are you using?
[09:31] <blackswan> hi all
[09:31] <penguinzdr> hi
[09:31] <tiago> gnome
[09:31] <intelikey> tiago so use sudo gedit blah
[09:31] <tiago> gedit
[09:31] <mrkoje> tiago: try this from a command line....   ~#: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:32] <topyli> tiago: you should still use sudo. open a terminal, do sudo edit <drag&drop your xorg.conf into the terminal>
[09:32] <mrkoje> that way it will open up with su privledges
[09:32] <tiago> sweet thanx bro
[09:32] <intelikey> or the alt+f2 run command
[09:32] <blackswan> i need info how much of space i need for ubuntu in gb
[09:32] <mrkoje> tiago: I have no clue about your x11 gnome composit problem
[09:32] <blackswan> download ubuntu dvd
[09:32] <topyli> blackswan: about 3G i think
[09:33] <blackswan> ok ths
[09:33] <topyli> blackswan: plus of course room for your data
[09:33] <_carlos_> hola cual es ubunuto espa?ol??
[09:34] <intelikey> blackswan server install minimum 300m  full install maximum 7g  so something in between
[09:34] <penguinzdr> _carlos_,  #ubuntu-es
[09:34] <_carlos_> ok
[09:34] <_carlos_> thanks
[09:34] <mrkoje> hola carlos
[09:34] <blackswan> ok i `m new
[09:34] <mrkoje> feliz dia acciones de gracias
[09:36] <ironwolf> seeing "The root node is not cycle master capable..." when connecting an ipod to a breezy 2.6.12-10-386 any ideas?
[09:37] <gar-> feliz ati tambien
[09:37] <rockin_stan> anybody here, who can tell me where to find the headers for 2.6.12?
[09:37] <Mulder> is there a list of ubuntu kernel patches somewhere
[09:37] <penguinzdr> yay! http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03068#0
[09:38] <jmspeex> The ondemand cpufreq governor seems broken (for me at least) in the kernel shipped with Breezy
[09:38] <yaoming> is there everybody tell me how to disable IPv6?
[09:38] <mrkoje> gar, hables espanol tambien?
[09:38] <ironwolf> rockin_stan sudo apt-cache search `uname -r`
[09:38] <ironwolf> rockin_stan: install that package.
[09:38] <aftertaf> ive done what the samba factoid says but i can't get to connect to a windows share on the network... i get smb access debnied.
[09:38] <aftertaf> can anyone help?
[09:38] <dooglus> when I close this laptop's lid, nothing happens other than that the wireless connection gets broken.  can I stop it trying to hibernate or whatever it tries to do?
[09:39] <mccbaka> are apt-get and apt-cache the correct way to interface with the package system in ubuntu?
[09:39] <mrkoje> aftertaf:  Its all about permissions and firewalls!
[09:39] <dooglus> mccbaka: yes.  or synaptic, aptitude, debfoster, etc.
[09:39] <yaoming> is there everybody tell me how to disable IPv6?
[09:39] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  hehe i get this in dmesg:           smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[09:39] <mrkoje> aftertaf: 1st make sure your firewall on the windows machine is allowing connections
[09:39] <yaoming> is there everybody tell me how to disable IPv6?plsssssssssssss
[09:40] <rockin_stan> ironwolf, would be too easy ;) in my repos there are only the headers for 2.6.11 ...
[09:40] <dooglus> yaoming: youshouldn't need to
[09:40] <mrkoje> aftertaf: eek
[09:40] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  hehe i think its cos of ntfs
[09:40] <yaoming> dooglus:why?
[09:40] <Mulder> yaoming, compile it out of the kernel if it's built in, otherwise unload the module
[09:40] <mrkoje> aftertaf: i guess... I have ntfs on my windows shares and its fine
[09:41] <dooglus> yaoming: IPv6 shouldn't break anything
[09:41] <SoulPropagation> how do i theme Qt from Gnome?
[09:41] <mrkoje> aftertaf: Have you gotten any windows shares to work?
[09:41] <ironwolf> rockin_stan: apt-get update ?
[09:41] <aftertaf> nope
[09:41] <mccbaka> doog: ok thanks. i must confess though, i am somewhat perplexed. i see this package listed on the website, but, it does not appear under apt-cache search. http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/admin/libnss-mdns
[09:41] <yaoming>  sometimes i can access some site like ubunt.com. sometimes i cant access it,i think IPv6 bug this.
[09:41] <mccbaka> like i type apt-cache search libnss-mdns and nothing happens
[09:41] <mrkoje> aftertaf: have you tried using SWAT
[09:41] <Adross> ahoy. My set up used to be a pata hardrive had grub on it and this booted into my computer. This was a golden time, I time of menu's and mouses. The hdd has since gone, leaving me with my big harddrive, on which everything is installed, but no mbr
[09:41] <Mulder> yaoming, that wont be an ipv6 bug
[09:41] <rockin_stan> ironwolf, fine idea thanks, but this is first thing after booting...
[09:41] <mccbaka> do you know why this might be?
[09:41] <Akonkwa> I have a major problem: I just rebooter my pc, and now ubuntu will not automatically start nautilus at launch, and when I try starting it, it prompts "cannot open window"  No I'm using a live cd. Can anyone help?
[09:42] <Adross> is there any way, through the live distro, that i can place grub on the big hdd?
[09:42] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  nope,
[09:42] <dooglus> mccbaka: yes.
[09:42] <dooglus> !universe
[09:42] <ubotu> repositories is probably How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[09:42] <rockin_stan> Adross, of course
[09:42] <yaoming> but i  still can ping the site i cant access in firefox
[09:43] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  getting it now.
[09:43] <mrkoje> aftertaf: ok, well assuming that you do have folders on your windows machine shared and your firewall configs are set right my best advice is to try SWAT
[09:43] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  i do have all that.
[09:43] <mrkoje> aftertaf: SWAT saved my sanity
[09:43] <rockin_stan> !tell Adross about grub
[09:43] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  what is it?
[09:43] <mrkoje> aftertaf: Samba Web Admin Tool
[09:43] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  for accessing windows shares too?
[09:44] <mrkoje> aftertaf: another thing I found odd is that besides smbd and nmbd, I also had to run winbind
[09:44] <joo> malang
[09:44] <pnm> hello
[09:44] <Akonkwa> can anyone help me? please?
[09:44] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ask away
[09:44] <mrkoje> aftertaf: it will set up smb client and daemon on your computer
[09:44] <Akonkwa> I have a major problem: I just rebooter my pc, and now ubuntu will not automatically start nautilus at launch, and when I try starting it, it prompts "cannot open window"  No I'm using a live cd. Can anyone help?
[09:44] <joo> yes i can
[09:44] <Adross> thankyou rockin_stan, you truly are rocking...stan
[09:44] <threeseas> acx wlan driver works on the live breezy but not on the installed breezy (on my system) ......
[09:46] <mrkoje> aftertaf: I think you may also need a "SMB USER" to be the same exact user that is on your windows machiens
[09:46] <Corporal_Clegg> hey guys its Tiago, the guy who was editing xorg.conf...
[09:46] <mrkoje> aftertaf: I apologize but it has been a little while since I had to last screw around with samba. Good thing is I guess is once you get it up it stays working :)
[09:46] <Corporal_Clegg> im in windows now... lol
[09:46] <threeseas> its strange --- it seems to be able to access all it needs to --- just not all at the same time
[09:46] <dooglus> aftertaf: if you just want to access a remote windows share, you don'tneed samba or anything like that.
[09:47] <mrkoje> Corporal_Clegg: Hey... are you in the military?
[09:47] <Corporal_Clegg> yup i done some thing stupid and killed xorg
[09:47] <dooglus> aftertaf: you can just mount the share using "mount -t cifs"
[09:47] <Corporal_Clegg> no
[09:48] <Corporal_Clegg> i was wondering if some one could help me reserect my ubuntu?
[09:48] <mrkoje> Corporal_Clegg:  if you killed X11 then you can still fix it! good thing about linux is that x11 is just another service
[09:48] <var> cp /etc/X11/xorc.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf   Corporal_Clegg
[09:48] <aftertaf> dooglus:  can you expand on that?
[09:48] <Corporal_Clegg> i have full access to my ext3 partition in windows
[09:48] <threeseas> iwconfig shows all but the access point --- and iwlist shows the access point
[09:48] <Akonkwa> So... nobody has the answer to my problem :( ?
[09:48] <Corporal_Clegg> if there is some where i can upload my xorg.conf file and some one could take a look at it for me?
[09:49] <dooglus> aftertaf: I wish I could, but I don't have my laptop with me.
[09:49] <mrkoje> Corporal_Clegg: eeek I don't know if thats a good way to edit files... im no expert in that thing though
[09:49] <aftertaf> dooglus:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
[09:49] <aftertaf> arghh!!!!!
[09:49] <var> copy  /etc/X11/xorc.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf    Corporal_Clegg
[09:49] <Corporal_Clegg> ok
[09:49] <dooglus> aftertaf: it's something like "sudo mount -t cifs -o password= //server/sharename /media/winshare"
[09:49] <aftertaf> ok ;)
[09:50] <Corporal_Clegg> so xorg.conf~ was the backup?
[09:50] <var> Corporal_Clegg: that'll put you back like you was 'for you got like you is.
[09:50] <Corporal_Clegg> lol
[09:50] <Corporal_Clegg> thanx bro
[09:50] <aftertaf> hang on a sec.....    how do you reference unc paths?
[09:50] <var> akneethyme
[09:51] <aftertaf> got me slashes backwards
[09:51] <Corporal_Clegg> maybe one of you could help me set up composit insted of doing it my self?
[09:51] <Corporal_Clegg> lol
[09:51] <dooglus> aftertaf: use / not \
[09:51] <viviersf> does any1 know how you can create a partition table on n new hdd using parted ?
[09:52] <dooglus> aftertaf: I don't know if you need to "sudo modprobe cifs" or whether that happens automatically
[09:52] <aftertaf> argh! still not working
[09:52] <dooglus> aftertaf: what happens now?
[09:52] <dooglus> aftertaf: do a pastebin?
[09:52] <aftertaf> still no banana.
[09:53] <dooglus> aftertaf: is that the error message?
[09:53] <aftertaf> lol
[09:53] <dmg|lnx> how do i get root in ubuntu?  i type in su but it says wrong password..??
[09:53] <aftertaf> pastebinning now
[09:53] <aftertaf> !sudo
[09:53] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:53] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell dmg|lnx about root
[09:54] <Akonkwa> Thanks anyway :)
[09:54] <dmg|lnx> subterrific: Authentication failure
[09:54] <dmg|lnx> Sorry.
[09:54] <mpma> Anyone use eclipse?  I"m having a hard time telling it where Sun's Java is, it won't recognize /usr/lib/j2sdk*/bin/java as an executable, and on first load started using the one that came with my install... despite my having run the update-alternatives --config command...
[09:55] <Corporal_Clegg> How to enable Composite extension?
[09:56] <aftertaf> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5035    mount windiows share problem
[09:57] <intelikey> someone knows how to get fetchmail to put mail in a directory rather than in a database file  ?
[09:57] <dooglus> aftertaf: what if you miss out the -o password=password bit?
[09:58] <intelikey> hehhe plain text database at that...
[09:59] <Robbster> lo all. Are there packages for openoffice 2 for breezy available?
[10:00] <intelikey> hmmm so fetch mail is just writing all emails as >> mail     is there a way to get it to make seperate .eml .html  or .txt files  ?
[10:00] <intelikey> or am i gona have to sctipt that too ?
[10:01] <dooglus> aftertaf: install package "smbfs" - it might help.  and try "sudo modprobe cifs" too
[10:01] <ulisse> hello tribe
[10:02] <Robbster> lo ulisse
[10:02] <ulisse> what happens if I update directly from Warty to Breezy?
[10:02] <nalioth_zZz> ulisse: your system is most likely going to become unusable
[10:03] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell ulisse about breezy
[10:03] <j813> hi, how do I install themes?
[10:04] <mccbaka> hi-- i tried installing the "ssh-krb5" package, and it said it was about to unnstall "ubuntu-standard". I don't think that's what i want. could it be sshd is already installed on my ubuntu, just not turned on?
[10:04] <nalioth_zZz> mccbaka: have you tried to install openssh-server  ?
[10:05] <mccbaka> *ah*
[10:05] <mccbaka> thanks
[10:05] <Robbster> j813: Have you got the theme files (typically .tar.gz files?)
[10:06] <mrkoje> aftertaf: I did what doogles said about installing the smbfs on my laptop and doinga  modprobe cifs and it worked fine
[10:06] <ulisse> nalioth, ubotu: I'll try to upgrade and then eventually I'll do a fresh install (no risks, I have my data on a separate partition)
[10:06] <ulisse> I'll make you know...
[10:07] <nalioth> ulisse: i wish you success, too many folks have not seen it with a warty > breezy upgrade
[10:07] <cion> hey all is it possible to make rhythmbox to play mp3?
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cion about mp3
[10:07] <j813> Robbster: yes
[10:08] <pnm> nalioth: what's the success rate like with hoary -> breezy?? I'm dist-upgrading now :S
[10:08] <cion> ok another question sound juicer extracts at 0.5X that's like 120 minutes for a cd is that normal?
[10:08] <ulisse> pnm, for me (on another system) it was flawless
[10:08] <Robbster> Desktop->preferences->theme will give you the theme preferences window. Click on the 'Install Theme' button. :)
[10:08] <j813> how about Icons?
[10:09] <Robbster> j813: Icon theme? I'd imagine that they are installed in the same way. Don't actually know.:/
[10:09] <j813> ok
[10:09] <pnm> cion: I find that has happens to me sometimes, but it's not normal.. is the cd old or scratched?
[10:09] <nalioth> pnm: if you have an ubuntu system and have only used ubuntu pkgs, the upgrade from hoary > breezy is just fine
[10:09] <cion> no it's new man
[10:10] <pnm> nalioth: ah, excellent
[10:10] <Robbster> cion: could also be the rom drive. I've had similar problems with an older or cheaper drives.
[10:10] <dooglus> how do kubuntu users know when there are updates to apply?  I don't see an equivalent to the gnome update notifier
[10:10] <nalioth> pnm: it's just that a lot has changed between warty and breezy and the upgrade path isn't too clean
[10:11] <cion> i have a laptop asus so i'ts a combo rom drive
[10:11] <pnm> nalioth: aha.. I'm glad I started with hoary now..
[10:12] <j813> how can I change my Monitor driver?
[10:12] <Akonkwa> Does Nautilus depend on X?
[10:13] <nalioth> Akonkwa: yes it does
[10:14] <Akonkwa> nalioth: Do you now what the prompt "IO error 104 "means?
[10:14] <fp> #mandriva
[10:14] <Akonkwa> nalioth: Nautilus doesn't launch at startup anymore, and for no reason, and now 4im using a live cd
[10:14] <lymz> what program can i use to convert flac to mp3 and ogg?
[10:15] <dooglus> Akonkwa: nautilus depends on libx11-6
[10:15] <nalioth> Akonkwa: i am unfamiliar with that error or problem
[10:16] <dooglus> Akonkwa: what happens if you try running nautilus from a terminal inside GNOME?
[10:16] <Akonkwa> dooglus: How do I get inside gnome?
[10:16] <dooglus> Akonkwa: gnome is the default desktop environment
[10:17] <nalioth> when you boot your computer normally, do you get a gui login, Akonkwa ?
[10:17] <dmg|lnx> so when i go to install something and it asks for root password, what do i do?  my login password isnt working
[10:17] <Akonkwa> dooglus: When my computer boots, instead of getting the login screen , I get some sort of terminal prompt
[10:17] <dooglus> dmg|lnx: it doesn't ask for the root password
[10:17] <Akonkwa> nalioth: I don't get the gui login anymore
[10:17] <Akonkwa> nalioth: I don't know why
[10:17] <nalioth> Akonkwa: do you remember the last thing you may have installed?
[10:18] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  did you install kino?
[10:18] <Akonkwa> nalioth: I think it was Kino
[10:18] <Akonkwa> aftertaf: yes
[10:19] <nalioth> well what a coincidence. aftertaf take it away, please
[10:19] <aftertaf> nalioth:  what did i do?
[10:19] <redeeman> hello
[10:19] <nalioth> aftertaf: you guessed Akonkwa's problem at the same time Akonkwa said wht the problem might be. hopefully you've seen this
[10:19] <redeeman> anyone here know if ubuntu has some kind of contrib server where it's possible to get hosting?
[10:20] <redeeman> i just created a package of wine 0.9.2 patched to work with world of warcraft, and i figure it might be useful to people
[10:20] <aftertaf> nalioth: noe, he was on before asking about video editing software... i told him kino, which i use
[10:20] <redeeman> video editing - there is also cinelerra
[10:20] <aftertaf> i have no idea about an issue where kino breaks X, though...
[10:20] <aftertaf> redeeman:  for a desktop pc?
[10:20] <redeeman> aftertaf: i heard it's good
[10:21] <aftertaf> redeeman:  me too, but bneeds a lot of resources
[10:21] <Akonkwa> nalioth : do you know what the problem could be?
[10:21] <redeeman> well doesent that depend on the codecs?
[10:21] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ok, you'll need to logon to the console first. you're on a live cd now, right?
[10:21] <Akonkwa> aftertaf: yes
[10:22] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ok... write down some stuff then, and make sure you note it right, then reboot and try.....
[10:22] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ready?
[10:22] <Akonkwa> aftertaf: ok
[10:22] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  when it boots up... if you see any errors about why X fails, note them. Then login using your user account.
[10:22] <vniki> hola  atodos
[10:23] <aftertaf> Akonkwa: did you instal ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[10:23] <frankie_> anyone know the package needed for mp3 stuff?
[10:23] <ILyuha> hello all, what boot loader is used in Ubuntu?
[10:24] <Akonkwa> aftertaf: Ubuntu, but then, while trying to fix the problem, I installed kdm also
[10:24] <aftertaf> ahhhhhhhhh
[10:24] <aftertaf> ok.
[10:24] <J_Element> any one here can help how to install my sound card driver ! its a  built in sound driver
[10:24] <borup> ILyuha: grub
[10:24] <J_Element> card*
[10:24] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ok..... when logged in, type startx         If X starts ok, then come see us from your X session;)
[10:25] <frankie_> how do I enable mp3 support for ubuntu?
[10:25] <aftertaf> !tell frank23 about mp3
[10:25] <ILyuha> borup: thx
[10:25] <aftertaf> !tell frankie_  about mp3
[10:25] <Akonkwa> aftertaf: i've tried that and it doesn't work
[10:25] <aftertaf> sorry frank23 :)
[10:25] <nalioth> Akonkwa: it it DOESn't start, type irssi and come see us from there
[10:25] <Terminus> J_Element, is the module for the sound card loaded? what does `lsmod|grep snd` give you?
[10:25] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ok.... then type it again and write down the error.......
[10:26] <Akonkwa> nalioth, aftertaf , I'll try that
[10:26] <borup> ILyuha: by default anyway - you can choose to install lilo instead
[10:26] <aftertaf> then Akonkwa, type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and try startx again......
[10:26] <redeeman> so... anyone know where i could get the wine package which supports WoW hosted?
[10:26] <lymz> can i transcode my flac albums to mp3 and ogg?
[10:26] <aftertaf> nalioth:  is irssi on ubuntu preconfigured to come here?
[10:26] <J_Element> it gives nothing
[10:26] <J_Element> Terminus : it gives nuttin
[10:26] <nalioth> aftertaf: what if Akonkwa is running gdm?
[10:26] <aftertaf> nalioth:  true, but he said he did install kdm.
[10:27] <Akonkwa> Yes, I have both
[10:27] <Terminus> J_Element, ok. what does `lspci -v` give you? please paste in a pastebin.
[10:27] <Akonkwa> :s
[10:27] <aftertaf> or, if the kdm thing says dont exist, then Akonkwa, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and try startx again......
[10:27] <J_Element> a lot :D
[10:27] <nalioth> aftertaf: and yes, irssi is default in ubuntu
[10:27] <J_Element> i saw my sound card
[10:27] <Terminus> J_Element, that's why i told you to paste it. :)
[10:27] <J_Element> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[10:27] <J_Element>         Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device e203
[10:27] <J_Element>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
[10:27] <J_Element>         Memory at ff43c000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] 
[10:27] <J_Element>         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[10:27] <aftertaf> nalioth:  do you know what file i can edit to give myself webmin access from a certain IP ?
[10:27] <Akonkwa> nalioth,  aftertaf  Ok I'll be leaving now, I hope Im back in  a couple of secs
[10:28] <aftertaf> Akonkwa:  ok, good luck
[10:28] <nalioth> aftertaf: i'm unfamiliar with webmin
[10:28] <aftertaf> d'oh
[10:28] <tucoz> Hi, I wonder if it is important to keep the apt-get downloaded files in var/cache/archives
[10:28] <nalioth> J_Element: please read the /topic, it is considered rude to paste into irc channels (except those designated for pasting, like #flood)
[10:28] <J_Element> ubotu,  pastebun
[10:28] <ubotu> J_Element: What?
[10:28] <Terminus> J_Element, ok, maybe it's too new to have drivers available yet. i haven't had any experience with an ICH6.
[10:28] <J_Element> ubotu,  pastebin
[10:28] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:29] <J_Element> hrm
[10:29] <tucoz> that should have been /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:29] <J_Element> but what does it mean ! what i pasted
[10:29] <j813> guys how can I install with .run installer? ie games
[10:30] <tucoz> j813, maybe with sh
[10:30] <irvin> j813, sh <filename>.run
[10:30] <j813> how bout .bin?
[10:30] <j813> thanks BTW
[10:30] <frankie_> thanks
[10:30] <irvin> j813, same i think
[10:30] <J_Element> last time i was here some one helped me out with this 3 line command to install the driver :S
[10:30] <nalioth> afterhome: aftertaf ?
[10:31] <J_Element> but i had to reinstall ubuntu ! and all as lost :S
[10:31] <Terminus> J_Element, see if your sound card is supported at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix
[10:31] <afterhome> irssi power :)
[10:31] <afterhome> yep nalioth :)
[10:32] <[nige] > anyone got xinerama working with an Ati Raedon 9550 / 9600
[10:32] <gwark> i have a 9550 .. what is xinerama ?
[10:32] <liable> !xinerama
[10:32] <ubotu> liable: Are you on ritalin?
[10:32] <liable> ubotu: stupid bot
[10:32] <ubotu> stupid liable
[10:32] <afterhome> irssi is nice :)
[10:33] <[nige] > xinerama, allows you to use the dual headed feature of your card so that you can maximise to 1 desktop only
[10:33] <Terminus> gtg. kernel update.
[10:33] <[nige] > you use a "big desktop" 1 driver as opposed to 2 drivers for 2 displays
[10:33] <J_Element> TerminX,  i dont think spotted it there
[10:34] <J_Element> terminus* : i dont think i saw my driver listed
[10:34] <J_Element> what does that mean ?
[10:34] <gwark> [nige]  what's the command for it .. i'll see if it runs
[10:34] <[nige] > umm
[10:34] <[nige] > I am not sure
[10:34] <gwark> [nige]   looks to be installed ok
[10:34] <[nige] > its seems to ve installed on my compo
[10:35] <[nige] > the best way to discribe is its a plugin for X :)
[10:35] <scarlet> wow, it seems like half of australia is now here
[10:36] <Aegir> Heheheh
[10:36] <afterhome> got a nice workaround for my webmin problem....
[10:36] <Aegir> We will take over the net some day, scarlet
[10:36] <afterhome> i just used lynx to login locally via ssh and added my work ip to the access list :)
[10:36] <[nige] > brb
[10:36] <scarlet> Aegir, I thought we already had. We're just not letting on.
[10:36] <[nige] > I am going to manually restart x
[10:36] <gwark> [nige]    i cant say ... i enter xinerama into console, and nothing ... but is is installed ok
[10:36] <[nige] > yer its a pluging into x
[10:36] <gwark> so it appears ... sorry not to be of more help
[10:37] <[nige] > gwark, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/index.html
[10:37] <[nige] > BRB
[10:37] <Aegir> scarlet, *g*
[10:37] <maruchan> hello, i just got a SATA drive.. can i install it and ubuntu will recgonize it
[10:38] <vniki> hi, someone uses mythtv
[10:38] <gwark> ahhh [nige]  im not using multiple monitors ... .yet
[10:38] <scarlet> gwark, I don't think he heard you
[10:38] <[nige] > nope not working yet
[10:39] <gwark> ahhh [nige]  im not using multiple monitors ... .yet
[10:39] <gwark> scarlet  cheers :)
[10:39] <[nige] > ah okay
[10:39] <[nige] > i am on dual 17"
[10:39] <afterhome> nalioth: and dapper again.... X broken right now?
[10:40] <[nige] > bbs
[10:40] <[nige] > my gldrivers have gone weird
[10:41] <intelikey> mail handeling Q.   does procmail support maildir format ?
[10:41] <J_Element> ubotu,  fstab
[10:41] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[10:41] <GTroy> anyone know why kubuntu has a dapper release, but ubuntu doesn't
[10:41] <nalioth> afterhome: yes X is broken in dapper atm
[10:42] <kapputu> fluxbox seems to need a learning curve
[10:42] <kapputu> xfce is better
[10:42] <afterhome> nalioth: ok. long live irssi then ;)
[10:43] <kapputu> what's irssi?
[10:43] <afterhome> !info irssi
[10:43] <kapputu> !info irssi
[10:43] <nalioth> kapputu: irssi is a console irc client
[10:43] <[nige] > hmmm
[10:43] <[nige] > weird...
[10:43] <intelikey> hmmm bot off line
[10:43] <nalioth> !info irssi-text
[10:43] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9+0.8.10rc5-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[10:44] <nalioth> y'all have to ask the bot in the correct fashion
[10:44] <afterhome> nalioth: true, im new to irssi.
[10:44] <[nige] > chaning my xorg.conf kills the ati drivers oddly enough all I did was add Option                  'Xinerama' 'true' under ServerLayout
[10:44] <aftertaf> but i know xchat :)
[10:45] <nalioth> afterhome: you get to know irssi, you'll ditch xchat
[10:45] <intelikey> so saying irssi-text implies there is a gui version,  is there ?
[10:45] <aftertaf> nalioth:  could well do
[10:46] <nalioth> intelikey: there used to be a gui frontend for irssi, but the gui has fallen into neglect
[10:46] <afterhome> nalioth: once i get to know the shortcuts....
[10:46] <intelikey> mail handeling Q.   does procmail support maildir format ?
[10:47] <nalioth> afterhome: irssi.org is a very good site for documentation
[10:47] <intelikey> anyone kinw ?
[10:47] <intelikey> o
[10:50] <pawan> using aptitude to install moinmoin-common makes it want to remove moin. Is that a bug?
[10:51] <iluciv> how do you use dapper :P
[10:52] <talios> iluciv, if you have to ask - don't.
[10:52] <talios> you're safer :)
[10:53] <iluciv> just jokes
[10:55] <intelikey> anyone have an  /etc/procmailrc  file ?
[10:56] <robotgeek> intelikey: i've been wanting to use procmail for a while now
[10:57] <robotgeek> intelikey: i already use fetchmail for everything, that's the next thing to do
[10:57] <lhj> hello! everybody!
[10:57] <robotgeek> lhj: howdy
[10:58] <phin3as> Hello lhj.
[10:58] <intelikey> well i'm using it via fetchmail but i don't have any rc files on it and the docs i've got have no examples
[10:58] <robotgeek> intelikey: uncle google has a lot of examples on all possible configurations
[10:59] <linshu> hello
[10:59] <intelikey> i want to change its behaviour to use maildir in place of that mbox file.
[10:59] <lhj> hello!
[10:59] <J_Element> ubotu,  alsa
[10:59] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[10:59] <intelikey> robotgeek yeah ?    hmmm got a url on it ?
[11:00] <robotgeek> intelikey: hmm, one sec
[11:00] <gwark> is ubuntu's xchat shareware like the windows version ??
[11:01] <intelikey> shareware ?
[11:01] <intelikey> lol
[11:01] <gwark> didnt think so  ;))
[11:01] <phin3as> gwark, no.
[11:01] <devnul> Is there a way to chane the applications menu icon to the gnome foot.
[11:01] <robotgeek> intelikey: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/procmail-maildir.html
[11:01] <intelikey> k
[11:01] <phin3as> It's freeware, practically all software included on ubuntu is open source.
[11:02] <phin3as> There are things however like VMWare that are ported to linux but aren't open source.
[11:02] <gwark> xchat is a $$ thing in windows... but yes, thankyou phin3as , intelikey  :)
[11:02] <linshu> I think  linux is very good
[11:03] <gwark> love linux no more piracy ;)))
[11:03] <phin3as> gwark, there is a free version of xchat. www.silverex.info
[11:03] <phin3as> That's for windows.
[11:03] <linshu> hello
[11:04] <scarlet> gwark, if you get a "registered" copy of x-chat for windows, you can copy it completely legally wherever you want
[11:04] <scarlet> gwark, you cannot break the law by copying it, even if they are charging it
[11:05] <scarlet> gwark, xchat for windows is still GPL, it cannot be made non-gpl
[11:05] <pawan> intelikey: man procmailex ?
[11:06] <gwark> ;] 
[11:06] <pawan> short tutorials:  http://perlcode.org/tutorials/procmail/proctut/
[11:06] <pawan> nancy's well-honed quick start: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/
[11:07] <pawan> Timo's site is a bit like swimming in molasses, but pops up on all the search engines: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/proctips.html
[11:07] <pawan> using aptitude to install moinmoin-common makes it want to remove moin. Is that a bug?
[11:07] <intelikey> pawan yessir, ty
[11:07] <ivo_> hello
[11:08] <ivo_>  Question: I have a webcam and when i connect is lsusb see's it and dmesg has it also. When i look in gnome meeting, it also detects de webcam. but when i want to get images from the webcam whole linux is stuck. Can someone help me?
[11:08] <iluciv> I'm bored
[11:08] <iluciv> ] and vacant
[11:08] <cafuego> !info moin
[11:08] <ubotu> moin: (MoinMoin - a Python clone of WikiWiki), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 854 kB, Installed size: 4816 kB
[11:08] <cafuego> !info moinmoin
[11:08] <cafuego> hmm
[11:09] <intelikey> !info moinmoin-common
[11:09] <ubotu> moinmoin-common: (Python clone of WikiWiki - common data), section net, is optional. Version: 1.3.4-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 709 kB, Installed size: 13288 kB
[11:09] <cafuego> different versions
[11:09] <pawan> I mean, ubuntu uses it for its forums. It's gotta be well packaged ;-)
[11:10] <pawan> cafuego: so, install (moin|moin-common) then add python ?
[11:10] <ivo_> did anyone see m question?
[11:10] <sneaky> how can i install wine
[11:10] <ivo_> sneaky apt-get install wine
[11:11] <phin3as> sneaky apt-get install wine
[11:11] <cafuego> pawan: mod_python maybe
[11:11] <cafuego> how did I go it; hold on
[11:11] <sneaky> and then?
[11:11] <phin3as> ...
[11:11] <chiehchen> to install newest version of wine..
[11:11] <cafuego> I have 'python2.3' and 'moin'.
[11:12] <sneaky> i installed wine  how can i open it?
[11:12] <chiehchen> you can insert winehq source under /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <cafuego> sneaky: wine ./windows_app.exe
[11:12] <ivo_> sneaky then you have wine isntalled
[11:12] <chiehchen> you can also get winetools from www.winehq.org page...  its a nice tool to use
[11:13] <chiehchen> you can use that to install stuff
[11:14] <phin3as> intelikey then a livecd is for you :)
[11:14] <intelikey> oh that stuff    hehhe  nm
[11:14] <ivo_> who can help me with my webcam problems please?
[11:16] <Badm4n> hello
[11:16] <phin3as> Hello, Badm4n.
[11:16] <Badm4n> is apt-get ( ubuntu 5.10 ) can get themes for my gnome ?
[11:16] <phin3as> www.gnomelook.com
[11:16] <ivo_> www.gnome.org
[11:17] <daaku> anyone know of a good general purpose osd program? (simple text would be enough) - xosd works, but the font rendering is a little outdated ;)
[11:17] <ivo_> also
[11:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell Badm4n about themes
[11:17] <Badm4n> phin3as: is gnomelook.com can be installed by apt-get ? or using manual like rpm tarbal ?
[11:17] <pawan> vrms stuff
[11:17] <Badm4n> ubotu gnome themes
[11:17] <pawan> No non-free packages installed on kewl!  rms would be proud.
[11:17] <ubotu> Badm4n: I haven't a clue
[11:17] <phin3as> Sorry www.gnome-look.com
[11:17] <chiehchen> get Art Manager for themes
[11:18] <chiehchen> it downloads from art.gnome.org directly and installs for you.
[11:18] <ivo_> what to do if youre webcam crashes linux?
[11:18] <phin3as> art.gnome.org is another one..
[11:18] <phin3as> (G2G
[11:18] <phin3as> later)
[11:18] <Badm4n> art manager ?
[11:18] <chrisx1> how do i mount my USB device till i get my Breezy disk from my dads?
[11:18] <Badm4n> using apt-get install art-manager
[11:18] <Badm4n> ?
[11:19] <N6REJ> I'm not real thrilled with evolution... it seems buggy... but when I use synapitic to remove it it wants to remove alot of gnome apps.  What do I do?
[11:19] <Badm4n> very well i got msg from ubotu apt-get install gnome-art
[11:19] <Badm4n> thx
[11:19] <intelikey> N6REJ maybe not remove it but not use it ?
[11:19] <N6REJ> morning intelikey !
[11:20] <intelikey> hey
[11:20] <ivo_> who can help me with my problem, webcam crashes ubuntu
[11:20] <N6REJ> intelikey: can I change the email app that is started by that button?
[11:20] <chiehchen> alot of gnome stuff depends on evolution... if you don't want to use it.. probably just leave it alone...
[11:20] <pawan> chrisx1: modprobe usbcore uhci_hcd scsi_mod
[11:20] <chiehchen> are you planning to use other apps?
[11:20] <chrisx1> my cam does to ivo_
[11:20] <N6REJ> intelikey: I'm a bit overwhelmed by the standard breezy desktop... feel lost.
[11:21] <sneaky> i installed wine how can i open it?
[11:21] <pawan> chrisx1 : I think that's the bunch of modules you need. Then fdisk -l to see what sda you have
[11:21] <pawan> then mount
[11:21] <chrisx1> ok
[11:21] <ivo_> chrisx1: what webcam do you have, which driver?
[11:21] <chiehchen> there is no interface to open... for wine
[11:21] <gwark> sneaky  wintools is a good start
[11:21] <sneaky> ?
[11:21] <chrisx1> pc cam 602a
[11:21] <gwark> winetools
[11:21] <chrisx1> no drivers for linux tho
[11:21] <intelikey> N6REJ i don't know about gnome, but in kde you can just right click and preferances to change what an icon/button does
[11:21] <chiehchen> you need to get get winetools... like gwark said...
[11:21] <mrkoje> speaking of wine is there a way to emulate windows apps... install them and everything with out running a virtual windows... or havin a dual boot system?
[11:21] <N6REJ> chiehchen: well, I could use it if I understood it better I guess.  Like the todo list is great, but it talks about a web interface for the calendar and such, which is perfect, but I don't see how to integrate that.
[11:21] <chiehchen> www.winehq.org
[11:21] <sneaky> how i do that?
[11:21] <sneaky> i checked winehq
[11:22] <ivo_> chrisx1: what do you see in dmesg when you connect the webcam?
[11:22] <sneaky> iand did it but now i wanna open the program
[11:22] <csezol> I installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and i changed to kdm.. ( i did not want to, i wasnt attent enough ) How can i change back to gdm as my default login manager ?
[11:22] <gwark> sneaky  cedega will do a lot of it for you however
[11:22] <chrisx1> i dont unplugg it it was plugged in during installation
[11:22] <chrisx1> but i use gnome meeting
[11:22] <chrisx1> and it freezes
[11:22] <NedPrint> hello
[11:22] <ivo_> chrisx1: how did you install it
[11:23] <NedPrint> I have been trying to find a printer that is compatible with Linux, they all have either Windows XP or OSX on the box
[11:23] <NedPrint> how do I know if its compatible with ubuntu?
[11:23] <chrisx1> i aint:S
[11:23] <irvin> NedPrint, www.linuxprinting.org
[11:23] <intelikey> sneaky 'wine /media/<your-windows-partition>/<some-dir>/notepad.exe '
[11:23] <chrisx1> pawan,  Its not on there
[11:23] <N6REJ> intelikey: oh, I need an app to administrate the server.  Use putty or what?  IS there a nice graphical terminal for intranet?
[11:23] <pawan> chrisx1: huh? you were talking about a webcam? I gave you the hints for a flashdrive :-/
[11:23] <chrisx1> yer
[11:23] <csezol> NedPrint, it is.. my Canon PIXMA iP1000 had drivers for macosx and windoze
[11:23] <chrisx1> i talkin to u bout flashdrive
[11:23] <csezol> NedPrint, and it works
[11:24] <ivo_> chrisx1: can you connect youre webcam to youre usb and type dmesg in a console, and paste the ruler from the detected webcam
[11:24] <csezol> NedPrint, my ol' Lexmark Z25 worked too
[11:24] <ivo_> chrisx1: than i can see what type of webcam you have
[11:24] <csezol> I installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and i changed to kdm.. ( i did not want to, i wasnt attent enough ) How can i change back to gdm as my default login manager ?
[11:24] <intelikey> N6REJ not being a network anything i don't really know... maybe netadmin for mozilla or something
[11:25] <ivo_> chrisx1: my webcam needs the driver spca5xx, and it see's the webcam but everytime i want to use it, ubuntu crashes
[11:25] <N6REJ> intelikey: I feel very stupid about now... like a fish out of water.
[11:25] <pawan> chrisx1: do: lsmod | grep scsi       and      lsmod | grep usb         do you get output for both?
[11:25] <chrisx1> pawan, Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[11:25] <chrisx1> scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[11:25] <chrisx1> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[11:25] <chrisx1> USB Mass Storage support registered.
[11:25] <chrisx1> usb-storage: device found at 3
[11:25] <chrisx1> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[11:25] <chrisx1>   Vendor: Yifang    Model: EM201s EasyMp3    Rev: 0100
[11:25] <chrisx1>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 04
[11:25] <chrisx1> hub 1-0:1.0: port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
[11:25] <chiehchen> sneaky: you mean you can't run winetools?
[11:25] <NedPrint> ok so epson
[11:26] <NedPrint> will I have to use the Command line
[11:26] <pawan> chrisx1: watch it with the pasting
[11:26] <intelikey> N6REJ or are you talking about vnc / ssh / telnet type of thing ?
[11:26] <N6REJ> NedPrint: Epson Stylus R200 works outa the box
[11:26] <NedPrint> or can I set up my printer using a GUI?
[11:26] <chrisx1> pawan, sorry and yes it does give outputs
[11:26] <pawan> chrisx1 : then fdisk -l   should  show sda or sdb or something.
[11:26] <ivo_> pawan, do you know about crashing linux with webcam?
[11:27] <N6REJ> intelikey: I don't know.  I've got two workstations here that are going to periodically have to allow me to make changes, install packages, etc, on the server.  In Xp I used Tectia SSH client and it worked great.  I don't want tohave to resort to webmin just to adminstrate the box.
[11:27] <pawan> ivo_ : nope
[11:27] <pawan> chrisx1: run fdisk -l as root.
[11:27] <selinium> N6REJ, take a look at freenx
[11:27] <ex-parrot> how likely am I to be able to use a patch designed for the 2.6.0 kernel in the latest ubuntu kernel source?
[11:27] <chrisx1> pawan,  can i paste the outputto u in pm?
[11:27] <selinium> N6REJ, or ssh if you want to use command line
[11:27] <pawan> !ubotto pastebin?
[11:27] <ubotu> pawan: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:27] <intelikey> oh N6REJ yeah, that's vnc/ssh  look into both of those.
[11:28] <csezol> !ubotu gdm
[11:28] <ubotu> csezol: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:28] <csezol> !ubotu xdm
[11:28] <ubotu> csezol: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:28] <N6REJ> selinium: what is the gnome client for SSH?
[11:28] <pawan> !ubotu pastebin?
[11:28] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:28] <selinium> N6REJ, frrenx! :)
[11:28] <intelikey> N6REJ ssh for windows came from where ?   :)
[11:28] <selinium> N6REJ,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX  :)
[11:29] <pawan> !ubotu ubotto?
[11:29] <ubotu> pawan: What?
[11:29] <selinium> N6REJ, what computers are you connecting?
[11:29] <N6REJ> darn, this beep is quiet~
[11:29] <N6REJ> my intranet
[11:29] <csezol> I installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and i changed to kdm.. ( i did not want to, i wasnt attent enough ) How can i change back to gdm as my default login manager ?
[11:29] <selinium> N6REJ, all ubuntu?
[11:29] <topyli> 
[11:29] <N6REJ> yes
[11:29] <ex-parrot> csezol, apt-get remove kdm ?
[11:29] <topyli> woops
[11:29] <pawan> chrisx1: anyway, paste to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:29] <N6REJ> 2 workstations and 1 server
[11:29] <chrisx1> k
[11:30] <N6REJ> selinium: one of the ws is mine.
[11:30] <londonboi2k3> csezol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:30] <topyli> N6REJ: ssh is just ssh. you can use nautilus for file transfers and such though
[11:30] <selinium> N6REJ, so use freenx for Gnome gui access to remote machines
[11:30] <N6REJ> selinium: how much of a load will it put on the server?
[11:30] <chrisx1> pawan, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5040
[11:31] <maruchan> can anyone help me.. i just installed a sata drive.. what do i have so i can see the new hd
[11:31] <kvantti> another surprise of the linux world..i really like this app called d4x .. pleasing :)
[11:31] <selinium> N6REJ, your server? was it installed as a server or just a standard install?
[11:31] <N6REJ> selinium: as as server.. its running breezy server, but I added the desktop
[11:31] <kvantti>  maruchan try searching for sata in the synaptic and see if anything is referred to sata as "required"
[11:32] <NedPrint> ok it looks like the whole Epson stylus series has great support
[11:32] <gwark> k3d on my system wont install due to dependancies it wont install ..... 1st time thats happened ... is gnomebaker just as good just for burning (no ripping)
[11:32] <irvin> NedPrint, and HP too!
[11:32] <kvantti> NedPrint yeah my friend's epson worked out of the box too
[11:32] <N6REJ> topyli: so what is the gui ssh client?  I can't find it.
[11:32] <NedPrint> ok I will pick up an epson tomarrow
[11:32] <selinium> N6REJ, OK, it will add the same kind of load as you would expect with the server running Gnome...
[11:32] <NedPrint> i just didn't want to have to deal with those peoplein the store
[11:33] <NedPrint> they know nothing about Linux
[11:33] <ivo_> N6REJ, do you want to gui file transfer?
[11:33] <topyli> N6REJ: i don't understand. gui ssh sounds too strange :)
[11:33] <NedPrint> thanks a lot guys :)
[11:33] <selinium> topyli, I think he means something like freenx
[11:33] <chrisx1> pawan, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5040
[11:33] <intelikey> N6REJ are you the one with the sudoers question two days ago.... ?
[11:33] <N6REJ> ivo_: yes frequently... Normally I use sftp and ssh from windows using tectia ssh client.
[11:33] <Badm4n> i have 1 more problem ... my printer server running @ WinXP HP Deskjet 3920 and it has been detected by my ubuntu 5.10 when i add printer... but i cant use test printpage... why is that ?
[11:33] <torc> I wonder if ubuntu is as conservative as debian in adopting new kernels and technologies?
[11:33] <N6REJ> intelikey: nope
[11:33] <intelikey> k
[11:33] <ivo_> N6REJ: you can use server in places in the gnome menu
[11:33] <kvantti> NedPrint of course they don't because linux wont give any money for the store. when i mentioned about ubuntu to a salesman i know he just said that "my business is to make money"
[11:34] <selinium> N6REJ, you know you can ssh directly in a term?
[11:34] <ivo_> N6REJ: there you can setup a grafical ssh connection
[11:34] <intelikey> those who not  ^    ?
[11:34] <selinium> ivo_, Are yes, i see!
[11:34] <N6REJ> selinium: well, hmmm never thought about it.
[11:34] <kvantti> NedPrint he found the idea that ubuntu would allow more sales without os'ses bundled he seemed just .. unattracted to the idea
[11:35] <N6REJ> selinium: the server is an Athlon XP 1700 with 512 mg pc2700 ram.
[11:35] <selinium> N6REJ, what do you want to do, you can use nautilus to browse via ssh, or you can just use standard ssh in a term, or if you want to be able access a remote machine as if you are standing in front of it, use freenx.
[11:36] <NedPrint> yeah I love Ubuntu Linux
[11:36] <intelikey> nice box to just set there all day
[11:36] <N6REJ> my ws is an AMD 64 Semperon with 1G ddr 400
[11:36] <NedPrint> I am amazed at the quality of free software
[11:36] <topyli> torc: not at all. depends on your version of debian of course. unstable is not what i'd call conservative
[11:36] <NedPrint> I have been amazed by the abilities of free software
[11:36] <kvantti> NedPrint try installing d4x for fun and have a look at one of the most attractive gui's i have found, ever. it's a good download manager
[11:36] <NedPrint> Evolution is a great e-mail client
[11:37] <intelikey> what's the other box N6REJ ?
[11:37] <NedPrint> ok
[11:37] <NedPrint> ill apt it
[11:37] <brosioz> hi
[11:37] <brosioz> anyone known any utils like plextor tools or nero utils that check the integrity of dvd the errors and make statistics ?
[11:37] <N6REJ> selinium: ok, scenario..... I need to install tikiwiki on the server, I download it and now need to transfer it to the server and start configuring.  In XP all I do is open tectia SSH client, log in, open sftp and viola!
[11:38] <N6REJ> intelikey: my workstation? the wifes? or the server?
[11:38] <selinium> N6REJ, then open a term type scp files to dest
[11:39] <maruchan> i just noticed that it coms up when i look at the disk manger
[11:39] <maruchan> do i have to partion it?
[11:39] <N6REJ> selinium: ok.  so let me see if I know how to do this.. brb.
[11:39] <NedPrint> currently i am installing Americas Army
[11:39] <topyli> N6REJ: if it's a linux box with sshd running, you can just ssh in, and/or use nautilus to transfer files to it
[11:39] <rindolf> Hi all! My hard-disk got corrupt or something. I'm running from Knoppix. Trying to mount the main XFS partition causes the mount process to hang. Even xfs_check hangs (!). A different partition on the same hard-disk can be mounted perfectly.
[11:39] <N6REJ> topyli: yes, they are all ubuntu breezy boxes!
[11:40] <pawan> chrisx1 : beats me. Maybe you should rmmod the usb and scsi mods an try again.
[11:40] <selinium> N6REJ, an easier way would be to click PLACES/CONNECT TO SERVER/ and create a network link. Then you can click on it and act on it in nautilus as if it was the same machine
[11:40] <scarlet> NedPrint, how the us military ever thought they'd be able to recruit linux geeks I'll never know.
[11:40] <topyli> N6REJ: then you have no worries at all
[11:40] <NedPrint> exactly
[11:40] <NedPrint> I am not interested in Joining the army
[11:40] <NedPrint> but its a 3d shooter
[11:40] <NedPrint> at the right price FREE
[11:40] <kvantti> NedPrint ever heard of cube?
[11:40] <chrisx1> pawan, how?
[11:41] <kvantti> NedPrint it's gorgeous
[11:41] <intelikey> hmmm hehe ssh is not even installed here.....
[11:41] <StarQuake> does anyone know how to reset the personal gnome menu created with smeg?
[11:41] <NedPrint> cube?
[11:41] <N6REJ> ok, lets slow down, I'm getting confused :D lol..Nautilus, ok, but no command line functions in nautilus right?
[11:41] <irvin> chrisx1, what's the problem?
[11:41] <pawan> rmmod usb_storage
[11:41] <pawan> etc
[11:41] <scarlet> NedPrint, it's like doom 2 with a higher framerate
[11:41] <chrisx1> irvin, Trying To Mount My Flash drive
[11:41] <kvantti> NedPrint just a sec i'l show you some screenshots
[11:41] <scarlet> sorry, that was mean
[11:41] <selinium> N6REJ, make sure you have sshd install on remote machines.
[11:41] <ola> what is going on ??
[11:41] <kvantti> NedPrint http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
[11:41] <N6REJ> selinium: yes, I do, openssh
[11:41] <pawan> then yank out the usb flash drive, shake it vigourously ;-)
[11:41] <topyli> N6REJ: no, to run commands you'll have to log in to the server with ssh of course
[11:42] <selinium> N6REJ, if you want to run backups between the machines take a look at rsync
[11:42] <irvin> chrisx1, doesn't automount?
[11:42] <kvantti> NedPrint i'm just dying to get it running with my gf 6600 gt but no luck yet. tell me someday if you get interested and give it a shot
[11:43] <N6REJ> selinium: this is my first week with breezy as my workstation.... so I'm getting lost.  Everything seems so big and .......hidden.  Like in 'applications/internet/' there is a terminal network client program... I would think that would do it but it doesn't work.
[11:43] <chrisx1> im on hedgehog release till i get other disk
[11:43] <chrisx1> n no it doesnt automount
[11:43] <pawan> chrisx1: do an lsmod to check the scsi and usb modules are out the kernel, then modprobe them into the kernel again. Maybe last time the thing went glitchy.
[11:43] <Badm4n> i have 1 more problem ... my printer server running @ WinXP HP Deskjet 3920 and it has been detected by my ubuntu 5.10 when i add printer... but i cant use test printpage... why is that ?
[11:43] <selinium> N6REJ, pm
[11:43] <selinium> ?
[11:43] <N6REJ> selinium: k
[11:43] <chrisx1> sci_mod?
[11:43] <kvantti> N6REJ the key at first is the synaptic package manager. and if you try out installing mplayer and a game called adom i found these two cakes really good tutorials
[11:43] <chrisx1> *scsi
[11:44] <pawan> chrisx1: make sure the flash drive is in before you modprobe
[11:44] <kvantti> N6REJ in basic usage skills
[11:44] <topyli> N6REJ: the terminal server client is for connecting to windows terminal servers
[11:44] <kvantti> N6REJ of course, they are the finest imho ;)
[11:44] <NedPrint> that is a great looking game!
[11:44] <N6REJ> oh
[11:44] <scarlet> kvantti, I've run cube with a 6600GT for what it's worth. It runs very smooth but generally looks the same as it usually does.
[11:44] <pawan> chrisx1: assuming nothing else is scsi, yes, rmmod them and the usb stuff.
[11:44] <kvantti> NedPrint yeah
[11:45] <NedPrint> so do Linux users download the "Unix tar" file?
[11:45] <NedPrint> someone should make this into a Deb
[11:45] <kvantti> scarlet What did you exactly do to get it running, i have tried chmodding the named files and told the config file to do linux and i586 but i just get a shot of blank black screen and then nothing
[11:46] <chrisx1> pawan, done
[11:46] <scarlet> kvantti, I did it through gentoo before I switched to ubuntu. A simple "emerge cube" did it for me
[11:46] <topyli> NedPrint: get the tarball and make a deb :)
[11:46] <chrisx1> theres usb core hold on
[11:46] <kvantti> scarlet is emerge something you use in ubuntu?
[11:46] <chrisx1> shall i rmmod that?
[11:47] <NedPrint> how does one do that?
[11:47] <chrisx1> *rmmod
[11:47] <scarlet> kvantti, nope, it's a gentoo thing
[11:47] <NedPrint> how do you make a deb?
[11:47] <kvantti> scarlet yeah i guessed. damn
[11:47] <topyli> NedPrint: if it
[11:47] <topyli> oops
[11:47] <scarlet> kvantti, it's like apt only far more flexible and based on source tarballs
[11:47] <holycow> heh
[11:47] <holycow> billiardgl has really come along as a game
[11:47] <holycow> veeeery slick
[11:47] <NedPrint> if it?
[11:47] <NedPrint> this is alien to me
[11:47] <pawan> chrisx1: I hope your keyboard isn't usb ;-)
[11:48] <NedPrint> how does one transform a tarball into a deb?
[11:48] <chrisx1> it aint
[11:48] <chrisx1> lolz
[11:48] <chrisx1> :P
[11:48] <kvantti> scarlet right now i'm gonna leave opensuse downloading for the weekend and give my friend a good blast of freedos, xp sp2 pro and opensuse sunday :)
[11:48] <topyli> NedPrint: if you're still talking about the game, you would have to write the control files and all, as adviced in the debian new maintainers guide
[11:48] <chrisx1> my usb ethernet card is
[11:48] <NedPrint> ahh
[11:48] <chrisx1> :)
[11:48] <chrisx1> lolz
[11:48] <topyli> NedPrint: too much work, considering that the game has a perfectly fine installer anyway
[11:48] <NedPrint> well I think I am a bit new to this whole Linux thing for htat
[11:48] <NedPrint> really/
[11:48] <rindolf> Hi all! My hard-disk got corrupt or something. I'm running from Knoppix. Trying to mount the main XFS partition causes the mount process to hang. Even xfs_check hangs (!). A different partition on the same hard-disk can be mounted perfectly.
[11:49] <_Rappy_> I'm adding a Header and a Footer in a OOo document. To make it not display on the first page, can I tell it to do so via Paragraph Styles (can't find it) or do I have to adda diffrent header with no content on the first page?
[11:49] <NedPrint> I am downlaoding cube now
[11:50] <kvantti> NedPrint let's get together for a game _if_ i find a person who get's it running in ubuntu someday
[11:50] <NedPrint> I hope I can get it running
[11:50] <NedPrint> you said something about an intaller?
[11:50] <NedPrint> how does one install a tar.gz file
[11:50] <NedPrint> that is alien to me
[11:50] <NedPrint> I have only installed Sh
[11:50] <NedPrint> deb
[11:50] <NedPrint> and RPM via Alien
[11:50] <kvantti> NedPrint it's like zip, just untar it
[11:51] <scarlet> NedPrint, tar xzf <filename>
[11:51] <rem_> tar -zxf for ex ..
[11:51] <kvantti> NedPrint you have archive manager installed doubleclick and select extract
[11:51] <NedPrint> ok
[11:51] <kvantti> NedPrint no need to go console :)
[11:52] <lookingglass> where do i find the packages after i installed them from synaptic package manager?
[11:52] <lookingglass> i dont see them on my gnome desktop
[11:52] <intelikey> "doubleclick and select extract"  ?    never heard of that
[11:52] <NedPrint> what do I do now
[11:52] <NedPrint> it has something that says cube unix
[11:52] <kvantti> lookinggloss look in usr/bin or usr/games for the executables, you can the create icons of them for you to use as shortcuts
[11:52] <NedPrint> and its a little gear shell script icon
[11:53] <NedPrint> but nothing happens when I click on it
[11:53] <lookingglass> kvantti, ok...
[11:53] <intelikey> NedPrint look for files with all caps names and read them.
[11:54] <kvantti> NedPrint i think i could try to find a install tutorial for us
[11:54] <intelikey> like README.TXT    or   INSTALL
[11:54] <NedPrint> ok
[11:54] <NedPrint> I found it
[11:54] <NedPrint> it one paragraph long
[11:55] <NedPrint> and basically says clients function like the win32 client
[11:55] <Badm4n> sorry for repeat
[11:55] <Badm4n> i have 1 more problem ... my printer server running @ WinXP HP Deskjet 3920 and it has been detected by my ubuntu 5.10 when i add printer... but i cant use test printpage... why is that ?
[11:55] <intelikey> check for other docs in there
[11:55] <kvantti> NedPrint read the part about chmodding
[11:55] <intelikey> all caps named
[11:55] <lookingglass> kvantti, nothing happens when i click on the executables... :(
[11:56] <kvantti> lookinglass you should edit the mentioned config script and put linux and i586 as your preferences
[11:56] <NedPrint> I already did that
[11:57] <NedPrint> that is the first thing I did
[11:57] <NedPrint> it doesn't work
[11:57] <NedPrint> when I click on them
[11:57] <kvantti> lookingglass that's all the info they give on it in the file and i too get only a black blank flash and then nothing
[11:57] <NedPrint> they make the screen go black for a second
[11:57] <NedPrint> then gome right back
[11:57] <lookingglass> :(
[11:57] <NedPrint> thats my problem too
[11:58] <NedPrint> the important thing is I have lots of vodka to keep me warm during this dark period :)
[11:58] <NedPrint> if I had money
[11:58] <NedPrint> I would put a bound out on Debing this package
[11:58] <kvantti> it has got to work since debian is mentioned as supported. i also have the nvidia-glx drivers (x11) and acceleration works
[11:58] <NedPrint> it looks so cool
[11:58] <NedPrint> so do I
[11:58] <topyli> NedPrint: i just downloaded the game. if you run cube_unix from the terminal, you will see that it complains about missing libsdl
[11:58] <NedPrint> celestia runs fine
[11:58] <kvantti> it would be something appealing for people if we had it in synaptic
[11:59] <kvantti> synaptic lacks a modern fps game
[11:59] <NedPrint> indeed
[12:00] <kvantti> now for a little break .. brb
[12:00] <NedPrint> poopysticks!
[12:00] <NedPrint> it does the black screen thing
[12:00] <scarlet> w00t, I got it compiled for amd64
[12:00] <topyli> kvantti: seems like a non-free game, so debian/ubuntu are not likely to have it
[12:01] <irvin> nexuiz is a great fps game
[12:01] <topyli> NedPrint: installed libsdl-image1.2 and libsdl-mixer1.2 and the game runs
[12:01] <intelikey> NedPrint the 'standard' process for compiling from source is 'open a terminal & enter the source directory && (after reading the docs) type ./configure  &&&  make   &&&&  sudo make install '   assuming that each step finishes without error you have then installed your first package from source...... not that everything will finish without error....    first you will need to install the rest of the gcc compiler, install buil
[12:01] <NedPrint> when I type cube_unix
[12:02] <NedPrint> it says command not found
[12:02] <intelikey> are you listening ?
[12:02] <neoxan_> huhu
[12:02] <topyli> NedPrint: it's not in your path. specify the full path to the executable, like /ned/Desktop/Downloads/cube_unix
[12:04] <kvantti> topyli too bad
[12:04] <NedPrint> ok it runs now
[12:04] <NedPrint> and it runs great!
[12:04] <wickedpuppy>  /j #java
[12:05] <lookingglass> anyone knows a good GUI IDE for LISP Beginners on GNOME (Ubuntu)
[12:05] <kvantti> topyli oh i did that too..i mentioned the dir, not the exe. thank's dude
[12:05] <lookingglass> ubotu tell me about lisp
[12:06] <topyli> kvantti, NedPrint: the sucky thing is you'll have to be in the cube directory to run it. so, i wrote a script that changes to /opt/cube and put it in /usr/local/bin. now i can run it by just saying 'cube'
[12:07] <soci0path> is there a way to make the start menu show a list of the last 10 programs I've used?
[12:07] <NedPrint> good idea
[12:07] <topyli> soci0path: not that i know of
[12:07] <intelikey> there is in kde... it does by default.... err last 5 default but it's adjustable.
[12:08] <soci0path> yeah... there has got to be a way...
[12:09] <jason> hello
[12:09] <intelikey> it can be toggeled between most recent and most common also
[12:09] <kvantti> topyli can you up me the script? i will edit it to match my system and use it as a tutorial since the only darned thing i know is.bat
[12:10] <Badm4n> i have 1 more problem ... my printer server running @ WinXP HP Deskjet 3920 and it has been detected by my ubuntu 5.10 when i add printer... but i cant use test printpage... why is that ? ( sorry for re typing )
[12:11] <liable> Badm4n: in cups admin page?
[12:11] <intelikey> hmm .bat scripts  with all the goto 's and  :addresses    yes i remember those....
[12:12] <Badm4n> but the status is "ready"
[12:12] <kvantti> intelikey i have used them in up to xp for example, as a adom roller and mwave dsp that i had device switcher :)
[12:12] <lookingglass> when a new version of ubuntu comes up, how do we upgrade?
[12:12] <liable> lookingglass: worry about that next year.
[12:12] <GTroy_> anyone willing to try gnomemeeting?
[12:12] <lookingglass> do we lose the old settings for programs... etc...
[12:13] <Fanskapet> lookingglass: totally depends on the software
[12:13] <kvantti> lookingglass the only thing you loose is outdated system files
[12:13] <kvantti> lookingglass what come's to dependencies is another thing
[12:13] <mirak> where a strored passwords ?
[12:14] <kvantti> mirak etc/passwd was mentioned somewhere
[12:14] <intelikey>  /etc/shadow
[12:14] <liable> or /etc/shadow
[12:14] <mirak> kvantti: there is nothing that looks like passords
[12:14] <mirak> ok
[12:14] <topyli> kvantti: it's just three lines: 1. #!/bin/sh 2: cd /opt/cube 3: ./cube_unix
[12:14] <topyli> kvantti: don't use the numbers of course
[12:15] <liable> !lose me
[12:15] <ubotu> liable: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:15] <locke__> for some reason when i type in su in the command line and type in my password it tells me authentication failure
[12:15] <locke__> any idea's?
[12:15] <mirak> what is the algorithm used to create the password signature ?
[12:15] <liable> locke__: yes, use sudo, not su.
[12:15] <intelikey> so it puts the executable in /opt   thats odd, why'd they do that ?
[12:15] <Akonkwa2> When i launch my computer, gnome won't start anymore, I do'nt have any gui, just a terminal logon promt. When I log on, and try to start X, it raises an error. Smae goes when Itry to start nautilus or kde. Can anyone help?
[12:15] <topyli> locke_: because su will try to switch to root, which is disabled
[12:15] <irvin> locke_, did you set the root password?
[12:15] <mirak> digest
[12:15] <kvantti> topyli do i need to mod the file somehow, and if i move it to usr/bin, will i be able to run cube anywhere then?
[12:16] <locke__> it asked me fora  password, so i typed on in, now it won't let me
[12:16] <NedPrint> well I have it running
[12:16] <NedPrint> but I cannot get it to link to the desktop at all
[12:16] <intelikey> !root
[12:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:16] <topyli> kvantti: where i cd to /opt/cube, you will cd to wherever cube is
[12:16] <locke__> i have to be root to unmount my windows partition from my desktop, but it won't let me do su
[12:16] <locke__> grrrrr
[12:16] <topyli> kvantti: you will also need to chmod the file to be executable: chmod +x /usr/bin/cube
[12:17] <Akonkwa2> Can anyone help?
[12:17] <irvin> locke__,  sudo umount doesn't work
[12:17] <spiderbatdad> I hane not been able to install ubuntu. As windows boots, Ubuntu should install in that environment?
[12:17] <penguinzdr> is AMD Duron i686?
[12:17] <aeon17x> penguinzdr: Yes.
[12:17] <penguinzdr> wooohooo
[12:17] <topyli> spiderbatdad: no, you will have to boot from the ubuntu install cd
[12:18] <pawan> spiderbatdad : you have to make your machine boot from cd. which means tweak the bios.
[12:18] <lookingglass> can i instal debian packages on ubuntu?
[12:18] <intelikey> !root
[12:18] <ubotu> methinks root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:18] <Akonkwa2> lookingglass: yes
[12:18] <scarlet> kvantti, NedPrint, whoever else: I've got cube up, who wants to be fragged first
[12:18] <topyli> lookingglass: sometimes they may work
[12:18] <spiderbatdad> I've tried over and over to boot from cd but windows loads
[12:18] <kvantti> i still cant get it to run
[12:18] <lookingglass> oh ok...
[12:18] <aeon17x> lookingglass: and sometimes they might break your system...
[12:18] <NedPrint> I am still trying to link the bastard to my desktop
[12:19] <penguinzdr> aeon17x: are you reallly sure?
[12:19] <pawan> spiderbatdad : select the boot from cd option in your bios. ask a geeky kid to show you how.
[12:19] <kvantti> spiderbatdad you will have to go to your system setup from the memory test screen (information there on how to) and make your cd as a boot option
[12:19] <topyli> lookingglass: installing packages intended for other systems should be your absolutely last option
[12:19] <Akonkwa2> When i launch my computer, gnome won't start anymore, I do'nt have any gui, just a terminal logon promt. When I log on, and try to start X, it raises an error. Smame goes when I try to start nautilus or kde. Can anyone help?
[12:19] <aeon17x> penguinzdr: That's what it says in my Help > About in XChat.
[12:19] <topyli> :)
[12:19] <chrisx1> How Do i mount my usb device?
[12:19] <irvin> penguinzdr, search synaptic for kernel
[12:19] <spiderbatdad> I know how and have done so still wont boot
[12:20] <spiderbatdad> iso bad?
[12:20] <aeon17x> penguinzdr: if you're still not sure, consult Uncle Google :)
[12:20] <penguinzdr> aeon17x: are you too with duron?
[12:20] <Akonkwa2> topyli: I thought ubuntu was a debian?
[12:20] <irvin> penguinzdr, look for the kernel descriptions, i think amd is -k7 (feel free to correct me)
[12:20] <topyli> Akonkwa2: no, only debian is debian
[12:20] <aeon17x> penguinzdr: Yeah, I'm on a Duron right now.
[12:20] <spiderbatdad> IBM thinkpad t30
[12:20] <Akonkwa2> topyli,  Ok I see... ;)
[12:20] <intelikey> chrisx1 probably something like 'sudo mount /dev/sda /media/disk '
[12:20] <penguinzdr> aeon17x: thank you very much
[12:20] <kvantti> spiderbatdad i just press del on memory test, go to advanced setup and make floppy boot one, cd0 boot two and hd0 as three. like this, your system will test for floppy and cd before booting windows
[12:20] <scarlet> kvantti, on a 6600gt, cube gives fpss between 200 and 400
[12:21] <Akonkwa2> topyli,: could you help me with a problem?
[12:21] <topyli> Akonkwa2: ubuntu will have different library versions than debian. dependencies will break. some scripts won't work
[12:21] <spiderbatdad> thanks...off to try again.
[12:21] <topyli> Akonkwa2: it totally depends on the problem
[12:22] <chrisx1> intelikey, mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist
[12:22] <Akonkwa2> topyli: When i launch my computer, gnome won't start anymore, I do'nt have any gui, just a terminal logon promt. When I log on, and try to start X, it raises an error. Smame goes when I try to start nautilus or kde.
[12:22] <intelikey> chrisx1 what kind of device you looking for ?
[12:22] <kvantti> scarlet aargh
[12:22] <scarlet> Akonkwa2, what error
[12:22] <topyli> Akonkwa2: you used to have gdm? the graphical login?
[12:22] <irvin> chrisx1, dmesg | grep sd
[12:22] <chrisx1> its USB MP3 player
[12:22] <scarlet> kvantti, that's at 1280x1024
[12:23] <scarlet> kvantti, at 640x480 it's around 500
[12:23] <Akonkwa2> scarlet: IO error 104
[12:23] <kvantti> scarlet i find that the best resolution on my system too, got xp 2200+ thoroughbred and one gig ddr400 veritech
[12:23] <Akonkwa2> topyli: I used to have gdm, the grapgical login
[12:23] <intelikey> mmmm that should automount.  unplug and replug it one time.
[12:23] <chrisx1> i have
[12:23] <chrisx1> where will it mount to?
[12:24] <intelikey> some place in /media
[12:24] <irvin> could you paste lsusb
[12:24] <kvantti> chrisx1 your desktop should have an icon =)
[12:24] <topyli> Akonkwa2: well, X is broken somehow. try to reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:24] <chrisx1> it doesnt
[12:24] <kevind> hey guys, bit of a problem, someone tried to install libc6-dev which seems to have broken/removed part of locales... so now everythings a bit screwed. and i cant seem to reinstall locales cause its looking for a dependancy (glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14) and when i try install glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 it just tries libc6 and says its already installed
[12:25] <irvin> chrisx1, could you paste what lsusb says
[12:25] <topyli> Akonkwa2: what kind of error messages do you get? X errors also leave logs in /var/log
[12:25] <kvantti> chrisx1 maybe the system does not understand your player as removable media. i have had 0 problems with my minolta g600
[12:25] <chrisx1> chris@ubuntu:~$ lsusb
[12:25] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 3334:1701
[12:25] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:25] <chrisx1> chris@ubuntu:~$
[12:25] <Akonkwa2> topyli: So basically I should logon ithout the gui, and do "sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:26] <Akonkwa2> topyli: I'm not sure how to get to /var/log without the gui :s
[12:26] <topyli> Akonkwa2: yeah, if you don't want to read the logs and find out what exactly is wrong :)
[12:26] <NedPrint> YES, I finally Got the Bastard to link to the desktop!!!!!!!
[12:26] <intelikey> kevind theres a command, maybe 'dpkg-reconfigure -a '  but you need to make sure thats it.
[12:26] <NedPrint> Is this game totally free?
[12:26] <irvin> chrisx1, does dmesg  | grep hd has output?
[12:26] <irvin> chrisx1, does dmesg  | grep sd has output?
[12:26] <scarlet> Akonkwa2, tail /var/log
[12:26] <bigfoot1> how do i open a .m4v file?
[12:26] <topyli> Akonkwa2: cd /var/log. list the files with ls, read them with less
[12:26] <kvantti> NedPrint it's open-source so it is something like ubuntu
[12:27] <kvantti> topyli really dont know what you meant with non-free
[12:27] <topyli> Akonkwa2: i'll look what the exact log file is, hold on
[12:27] <kevind> intelikey, for which package?
[12:27] <Badm4n> the procedure of art-manager [12:27] <NedPrint> Nice
[12:27] <Badm4n> but i cant click the install tab
[12:27] <NedPrint> does it run this well on other Operating systems?
[12:27] <Badm4n> its appears gray ( unclick able )
[12:28] <NedPrint> becuase it runs extremely smoothly
[12:28] <intelikey> if that's the command, it's system wide.  checks deps and reconfigures all
[12:28] <NedPrint> on ubuntu
[12:28] <Akonkwa2> topyli: Ok. What is less? a terminal based text reader?
[12:28] <topyli> Akonkwa2: probably /var/log/Xorg.0.log has the most recent errors
[12:28] <kevind> intelikey, this wont break any existing configs will it?
[12:28] <topyli> Akonkwa2: yes, less is a pager for long files and command outputs
[12:28] <intelikey> kevind i'm not sure that is the right command.   man dpkg first.
[12:29] <kevind> intelikey, it is, dpkg-reconfigure -all
[12:29] <NedPrint> thanks for guiding me through the install of Cube
[12:29] <intelikey> k there you go
[12:29] <kvantti> running cube's linux_client gives me the error "undiscovered sdl library" (1.2 or 12.0) and the cube_unix script does nothing "not recognized as command" i have done chmod +x on all and the config file is in order, what next?
[12:29] <Akonkwa2> topyli,: so when I'm in the right directory , I should type " less Xorg.0.log"?
[12:30] <chrisx1> i think its not gunna work eh/
[12:30] <chrisx1> *?
[12:30] <chrisx1> SCSI device sda: 249600 512-byte hdwr sectors (128 MB)
[12:30] <intelikey> and i promise you nothing about existing configs.....
[12:30] <kevind> intelikey, that didnt help
[12:30] <chrisx1> dc sorry
[12:30] <intelikey> eeek  ;/    that's not good.
[12:30] <topyli> akonwa
[12:30] <Animal> Can someone help me with getting splitscreen to work? i have laptop and i pissed at this smal screen
[12:30] <chrisx1> SCSI device sda: 249600 512-byte hdwr sectors (128 MB)
[12:30] <chrisx1>  is in dmesg | grep sd
[12:31] <kvantti> NedPrint thank's for the being the one who heard about it, and outsmarted me in  an hour =)
[12:31] <kevind> intelikey, did a few then started complaining about the locales not being set
[12:31] <Akonkwa2> topyli: I'm using a live session, I'll try that, than I'll come back to tell what errors I've read... thanx
[12:31] <intelikey> did it error out ?
[12:31] <NedPrint> do you have it working yet?
[12:31] <topyli> akonkwa2: sorry, my keyboard just broke :(
[12:31] <kvantti> NedPrint nope
[12:31] <irvin> chrisx1, mkdir /home/chris/temp
[12:31] <Animal> Can someone help me with getting splitscreen to work?
[12:31] <Akonkwa2> topyli,: no problem at all
[12:32] <Akonkwa2> topyli: :)
[12:32] <irvin> chrisx1, mount /dev/sda1 /home/chris/temp
[12:32] <kevind> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[12:32] <kevind> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:32] <kevind>         LANGUAGE = "en_IE:en",
[12:32] <kevind>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:32] <kevind>         LANG = "en_IE.UTF-8"
[12:32] <kevind>     are supported and installed on your system.
[12:32] <kevind> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[12:32] <topyli> Akonkwa2: not to you it isn't =)
[12:32] <NedPrint> did you chmod +X the cube_unix within the cube folder?
[12:32] <chrisx1> irvin, have done..?
[12:32] <kvantti> NedPrint chmod +X ? +x ...
[12:32] <NedPrint> plus x
[12:32] <NedPrint> sorry
[12:32] <kvantti> NedPrint this is why i don't do dev
[12:32] <kevind> it shows that a bunch of tiems
[12:32] <Akonkwa2> topyli,: so when I'm in the right directory , I should type " less Xorg.0.log"?
[12:32] <irvin> chrisx1, does mount has any errors?
[12:32] <NedPrint> ok
[12:32] <NedPrint> if you did that
[12:33] <NedPrint> then go to your cube folder
[12:33] <chrisx1> nope
[12:33] <NedPrint> in the console and type ./cube_unix
[12:33] <topyli> Akonkwa2: yeah, and scroll down untill you find errors
[12:33] <kevind> can apt-get ignore dependancies?
[12:33] <kvantti> NedPrint it tells me libsdl is not found
[12:33] <intelikey> kevind yes that is saying they are not installed.  but that won't stop the rest of the reconfig process.     when it is finished you should be able to apt-get install locals
[12:33] <Akonkwa2> topyli: I'm using a live session, I'll try that, than I'll come back to tell what errors I've read... thanx
[12:33] <NedPrint> OK
[12:33] <Corrupter> where can i get automatix at?
[12:33] <NedPrint> go to synaptic
[12:33] <NedPrint> and do a search for libsdl
[12:33] <chrisx1> irvin, it had no errors
[12:33] <NedPrint> install it
[12:34] <NedPrint> then try again
[12:34] <irvin> chrisx1, how did you mount it?
[12:34] <fabsmad> I'd like CDs auto mount for all users (without the need to become root). What can I do?
[12:34] <Corrupter> where can i get automatix at?
[12:34] <kevind> intelikey, same as before ::  locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 E: Broken packages
[12:34] <kvantti> NedPrint i have all 1.2 libs installed!
[12:34] <topyli> kevind: apt-get never ignores them but you can force dpkg to do so. it's probably the worst idea ever to do so
[12:34] <intelikey> kevind yes it can.    man apt-get and use the force
[12:34] <NedPrint> do you have libsdl1.2debian?
[12:34] <kvantti> NedPrint should i try debian-all?
[12:35] <NedPrint> no
[12:35] <NedPrint> just do debian
[12:35] <NedPrint> thats the one I have
[12:35] <intelikey> !info glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14
[12:35] <NedPrint> and it works fo rme
[12:35] <NedPrint> so give it a shot
[12:35] <NedPrint> oh
[12:35] <NedPrint> and make sure you have libsdl-console
[12:35] <intelikey> ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Package 'glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14' does not exist. <---
[12:35] <NedPrint> libsdl-gfx1.2
[12:35] <NedPrint> and libsdl-erlang
[12:35] <mahangu> what is the ubuntu startup command that mounts my disks?
[12:36] <mahangu> where can I find it?
[12:36] <kvantti> NedPrint the shiny shipit cd is rolling through my compucase door =)
[12:36] <mahangu> /etc/init.d/xxx <-- where in that?
[12:36] <intelikey> !info hoary glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14
[12:36] <NedPrint> do you have broadband kvantti?
[12:36] <intelikey> !info glibc
[12:36] <intelikey> the bot broke ?
[12:37] <crimsun> !info libc6 hoary
[12:37] <NedPrint> if you have broadband, I would remove the CD as a repository
[12:37] <NedPrint> and just use the network repository
[12:37] <NedPrint> it will keep you from getting old packages
[12:37] <fabsmad> CDs don't auto mount. I have to become root to do it. How can I change this situation?
[12:37] <topyli> NedPrint: all it complained to me about were libsdl-image1.2 and libsdl-mixer1.2
[12:37] <kvantti> NedPrint yes i do but the cd seems to contain the updated libs since it asked for them
[12:37] <NedPrint> and also make it so you don't ever have to putthe CD int the drive
[12:37] <gar-> if there anyway i can download the linux-headers for breezy kernel and install offline????
[12:37] <fabsmad> Have I to edit fstab?
[12:37] <NedPrint> ok
[12:37] <kvantti> NedPrint got console too now, will try
[12:37] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 (hoary), Packaged size: 4708 kB, Installed size: 15416 kB
[12:37] <NedPrint> ok
[12:38] <NedPrint> make sure you have the packages that topyli mentioned as well
[12:38] <kvantti> NedPrint libstdc but i think i can handle it
[12:38] <fabsmad> ciao
[12:38] <intelikey> kevind you using hoary right ?
[12:38] <NedPrint> remember you can never have to many libraries
[12:38] <gar-> is there any way i can download the 5.10 linux headers and install offline???
[12:38] <intelikey> : 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 (hoary)
[12:38] <NedPrint> well I have to hit the hay
[12:39] <intelikey>  Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy)
[12:39] <NedPrint> its 3:39 AM Pacific Standard time
[12:39] <NedPrint> and I am finally getting sleep
[12:39] <NedPrint> good night my friends
[12:39] <gar-> here is 6:39am
[12:39] <gar-> woooot
[12:39] <NedPrint> and Kvantti, good luck, I wish I could help more, but I have to be at work in 5 hours
[12:39] <NedPrint> good night
[12:39] <intelikey> kevind you are using hoary, correct ?
[12:40] <gar-> i update to breezy and is everything mess up
[12:40] <kevind> yes hoary the 64bit version
[12:40] <gar-> 64bit nice
[12:40] <intelikey> kevind you are using ubuntu 5.04 hoary hedgehog, correct ?
[12:41] <intelikey> ah 64 bit
[12:41] <intelikey> sorry i missed your answer
[12:41] <bimberi> gar-: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <gar-> thanks
[12:41] <chrisx1> umm
[12:41] <Badm4n`Makan> hello after i download art-manager
[12:41] <Badm4n`Makan> what should i do
[12:41] <intelikey> kevind you didn't try to install the package for breezy did you ?
[12:42] <ivo_> chrisx1 do  you have the webcam working?
[12:42] <chrisx1> na
[12:42] <kevind> intelikey, no all installs have been from apt which is pointing at hoary repositorys
[12:42] <intelikey> hmm ok
[12:43] <intelikey> well all i know to tell you is force it.
[12:43] <gar-> bimberi, wow to hard to loook in that place
[12:43] <encompass> sorry but this is probably a common question
[12:44] <encompass> what is the default root password?
[12:44] <intelikey> !root
[12:44] <ubotu> from memory, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:44] <gar-> rofl
[12:44] <encompass> umm, so when it asks for a password?
[12:44] <gar-> encompass, you have to go to the regular user and open root console and type passwd them put you new pass
[12:44] <encompass> what do I do
[12:44] <bimberi> gar-: ?, using the search function?
[12:44] <Chousuke> apuse your own
[12:44] <Chousuke> -ap
[12:44] <Chousuke> :P
[12:44] <encompass> passwd
[12:44] <intelikey> type your password
[12:45] <encompass> thanks
[12:45] <gar-> :P
[12:45] <Chousuke> don't enable root :/
[12:45] <gar-> bimberi, there is not search in there
[12:45] <encompass> I jsut want to work with my settings, new to ubuntu been with linux for aobut 5 years now
[12:45] <quantum> yeah this cube thing really "did the job" total crash of my system
[12:45] <BockBilbo> hello
[12:45] <encompass> debian and gentooo so this is very new to me
[12:46] <Chousuke> encompass: Ubuntu is quite like Debian
[12:46] <gar-> wait brb kubuntu finnish install
[12:46] <Chousuke> just get used to sudo :)
[12:46] <intelikey> Chousuke ?   what have you got against setting the root passowrd?
[12:46] <quantum> i think the amount of hardware might be too much for my 300w power
[12:46] <bimberi> gar-: http://packages.ubuntu.com ? yes there is
[12:46] <Chousuke> intelikey: What purpose does it serve?
[12:46] <gar-> bimberi, i dont see it
[12:46] <Chousuke> sudo works.
[12:46] <quantum> gf 6600 gt eat's lots of wats
[12:46] <BockBilbo> ive formatted my HD and i get this error when booting the ubuntu kernel:  " insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/initrd/vesafd.ko': no such file or directory"
[12:47] <quantum> i am kvantti by the way, and my ghost is here too :)
[12:47] <ookami> is this command correct? im having issues moving a file... sudo mv gsg_deskpets.tar.gz ~/var/www/
[12:47] <gar-> bimberi, uppps never mind i found it
[12:47] <BockBilbo> ... i think it is something related with ismod.. does someone know where can i fix it?
[12:47] <Chousuke> intelikey: why would you want to enable a security risk (everyone knows "root" is a superuser) and remember another password? :p
[12:47] <intelikey> ookami if you have a var/www/ in your home dir it is.
[12:47] <ookami> no, its before my home dir...
[12:48] <ookami> thats the problem... i dont know how to get it to go before my home dir intelikey
[12:48] <ElvenProgrammer> i'm following the guide to install jre, does it work for jdk as well?
[12:48] <quantum> do you know if linux opengl is more power-consuming then windows..if this makes any sense
[12:49] <ookami> how do i move a file to a spot before my home dir? ......
[12:49] <quantum> ookami i think you just cp it to /
[12:49] <intelikey> Chousuke cause i like to keep my user passwd short.  but i don't want a short passwd for root access.   so i set root passwd with stringth enough to not get hacked and remove sudo   .
[12:49] <quantum> ookami like cp /home/
[12:49] <quantum> like cp * or cp file /home/
[12:49] <ookami> quantum, i tried, but it says i dont have permittion...
[12:49] <Chousuke> intelikey: I see.
[12:49] <quantum> ookami do a sudo cp file /home/
[12:50] <quantum> ookami or sudo -i if you plan on doing lots of superuser work
[12:50] <intelikey> quantum /home/ is not ~
[12:50] <ookami> quantum, i do, but its thinking that the specified folder is in my home dir when its not...
[12:50] <intelikey> quantum /home/ is not $HOME
[12:50] <quantum> intelikey no but he said before home dir, and /home/ is before any user home dir
[12:50] <intelikey> ~ = $HOME = /home/<username>
[12:51] <intelikey> yeah
[12:51] <ookami> so what is root? i mean, if home is ~ root = ?
[12:51] <intelikey> ok
[12:51] <Chousuke> root = /
[12:51] <ookami> 
[12:51] <intelikey> root = /root/
[12:51] <Chousuke> and root's homedir is ~root/
[12:51] <ookami> ok. got it.
[12:51] <intelikey> err root account is /root/
[12:51] <Chousuke> or most commonly /root/
[12:51] <intelikey> root dir is /
[12:52] <ookami> haha! simple enough... delete the ~ :) thanks
[12:52] <encompass> umm, my wireless card doesn't work in ubuntu but it does in debian
[12:52] <Chousuke> in general, ~<user> is a shortcut to <user>'s home directory
[12:52] <encompass> I have the rtl8180 card
[12:52] <quantum> encompass are you sure you have the drivers installed? my rt2500 is running fine
[12:52] <spacey> Chousuke, ~/
[12:52] <ookami> awesome! :) thanks people. your a great help as usual one day i will be able to help others just like you do.
[12:52] <Chousuke> spacey: that means your own home
[12:53] <spacey> y
[12:53] <quantum> encompass if i recall correctly, many rtl chipsets are supported
[12:53] <conn> hi, when I try to set my resolution to 1280x1024, 16bit, I get segfaults when running glxinfo, glxgears etc. I have an ATI Mobility M4 (r128), can someone help?
[12:53] <encompass> it tells me 'invalid module format.
[12:53] <Chousuke> y? :P
[12:53] <Badm4n`Makan> even my linksys 11 WUSB 2.4 working
[12:53] <spacey> yes
[12:53] <Chousuke> meh
[12:53] <quantum> encompass modules are .ko files
[12:53] <quantum> encompass search for .ko and you should find the modules home dir
[12:53] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:53] <encompass> which driver are you using quantum
[12:53] <onkarshinde> conn: you may try changing your driver in xorg.conf to r128
[12:53] <quantum> encompass i only needed rt2500.ko so have forgotten the dir
[12:54] <Chousuke>  /lib/modules/`uname -r` or something
[12:54] <Chousuke> nah
[12:54] <encompass> add what do you want me to do when there
[12:54] <BockBilbo> brb
[12:54] <onkarshinde> conn: perhaps 'man r128' will help
[12:54] <Chousuke> linux-`uname -r`
[12:54] <quantum> encompass there is a folder called ?/wireless
[12:54] <encompass> are there drives I should use there?
[12:54] <conn> onkarshinde, I'll try that, but the ati driver loads the r128 module automatically
[12:54] <dreumah> anyone know how to run xlink kai on breezy
[12:54] <dreumah> ??
[12:54] <quantum> encompass you can insmod *.ko to install the driver from the console
[12:55] <brenner> conn: ooi, why 16bit?
[12:55] <dreumah> anyone know how to run xlink kai on breezy
[12:55] <encompass> I did that... that is when it gave me the error
[12:55] <quantum> encompass blah, errors and errors..
[12:55] <chrisx1> how do i mount my flash drive and it doesnt show on fdisk?
[12:56] <conn> brenner, I want DRI accelleration but the card only has 8mb vram
[12:56] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: 'pmount /dev/sda' should do it.
[12:56] <quantum> encompass are you sure you have looked in the /wireless dir? it is in your system, not in the web. those drivers could be incompatible
[12:56] <conn> brenner, 1024x768 is the best res I can get with DRI working and applications not segfaulting, but I want 1280x1024
[12:56] <Robbster> are there (official) installation packages for OpenOffice 2.0
[12:57] <intelikey> <onkarshinde that's what i said to him an hour ago, it doesn't seem to be sda ....
[12:57] <brenner> conn: eek, dare i say it might not even be worth trying?  what card?  i get crappy performance from this 128mb one
[12:57] <bimberi> !ooo2
[12:57] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[12:57] <conn> brenner, it's a Mobility M4, based on the old Rage 128, it's worth it, because it's a laptop
[12:57] <chrisx1> Error: could not determine real path of the device: No such file or directory
[12:57] <encompass> where is the wireless dir?
[12:57] <conn> brenner, under XFree86 dri acceleration works perfectly under the resolution I want, I tested in Knoppix
[12:57] <quantum> encompass see if you can find this dir lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/net
[12:57] <Robbster> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of breezy?
[12:57] <quantum> encompass it is for the most recent kernel
[12:57] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: then try sda1. It has happened with me before. If that even doesn't wok then tell me
[12:58] <chrisx1> it doesnt work
[12:58] <bimberi> Robbster: dvd works live, and has more packages on it (as i understand it)
[12:58] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: Last try. 'pmount /dev/sda /media/usbdisk'
[12:58] <brenner> conn: up to you i guess.  but i can't even get a score from glxgears after 2 mins.  i can't be bothered waiting for one.
[12:59] <chrisx1> Error: could not determine real path of the device: No such file or directory
[12:59] <bimberi> !glxgears
[12:59] <ubotu> it has been said that glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[12:59] <pitti> chrisx1: what do you try to do? (I'm the pmount guy)
[12:59] <conn> brenner, you need to use "-printfps"
[12:59] <ubuntu> yiukj
[12:59] <chrisx1> i dont needa reboot do i?
[12:59] <conn> it changed with Xorg, it doesn't display fps
[12:59] <conn> (by default)
[12:59] <pitti> chrisx1, onkarshinde: /dev/sda is usually wrong, you want sda1 or so
[12:59] <chrisx1> trying to mount my flashdrive
[12:59] <chrisx1> but it doesnt show on fdisk or anythin
[12:59] <encompass> I have the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel
[12:59] <onkarshinde> pitti: He tried sda1 also
[01:00] <pitti> chrisx1: can you please put the dmesg output into a pastebin?
[01:00] <brenner> conn: lol, no wonder.
[01:00] <pitti> chrisx1: or, wait
[01:00] <xadux> hello, how can I have two ipadress in my computer?
[01:00] <pitti> chrisx1: what does 'ls -l /dev/sd*' say?
[01:01] <intelikey> ooooh if that was on this system the list would be 14 pages long
[01:01] <chrisx1> ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[01:01] <brenner> anyone customised gnome much?  how exactly could i change a panel's text colour?
[01:01] <intelikey>  /dev/usb/ ?
[01:01] <quantum> encompass lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[01:02] <quantum> encompass this is the exact place where my rt2500.ko was found
[01:02] <encompass> dang
[01:02] <encompass> well, I think I have to get the newer kernel
[01:02] <encompass> I can't see it
[01:02] <chrisx1> pitti, whats link to pastebin
[01:02] <onkarshinde> encompass: It seems that you haven't updated machine recently. Kernel has been upgraded. What is your exact problem?
[01:02] <quantum> encompass have you used the update manager? or, look the the kernel version 9
[01:03] <quantum> encompass it has the same dir, just replace the version -10-386 with 9-386-
[01:03] <onkarshinde> encompass: Use Synaptic to update kernel.
[01:03] <xadux> hello, how can I have two ipadress in my computer?
[01:03] <Robbster> !ooo2
[01:03] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[01:03] <pitti> chrisx1: there are lots, e. g. http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[01:03] <onkarshinde> encompass: You can just say mark all upgrades
[01:03] <Robbster> ^^^^ are there official packages?
[01:03] <Robbster> ... for ooo2
[01:03] <pitti> chrisx1: or paste.ubuntulinux.org, just as in the topic
[01:03] <onkarshinde> Robbster: Offcial testing packages
[01:04] <bimberi> Robbster: They are as official as it gets atm
[01:04] <Robbster> bimberi: are there serious problems with the packages or are they fairly stable?
[01:04] <jason> i'm trying to install yahoo messanger i keep getting lib errors
[01:04] <bimberi> Robbster: i don't use them sorry (happy with the Breezy ones)
[01:04] <deFrysk> jason, try gaim
[01:05] <chrisx1> pitti its to big for consol
[01:05] <deFrysk> its is better asd looks better
[01:05] <chrisx1> cant get top bits
[01:05] <quantum> jason yeah, gaim supports yahoo too , it is in your system right now
[01:05] <jason> i dont like the way gaim runs
[01:05] <onkarshinde> jason: Do you mean offcial one? They don't even think that there are other distros other than RH and Debian
[01:05] <deFrysk> jason, yahoo massenger is gtk1 and ygly as hell
[01:05] <pitti> chrisx1: I can't believe that
[01:06] <onkarshinde> jason: Further it is way too old. Perhaps not chaged at all for about one year
[01:06] <quantum> deFrysk gaim is sweet.
[01:06] <pitti> chrisx1: ls -l /dev/sd* should only be maybe 2 lines
[01:06] <jason> what does gtk stand for?
[01:06] <Chousuke> GIMP toolkit or something
[01:06] <chrisx1> i told u what that says
[01:06] <pitti> chrisx1: oh, from dmesg? well, the last 50 lines or so are enough
[01:06] <onkarshinde> jason: GIMP's Toolkit
[01:06] <BockBilbo> quantum, when booting the kernel i get an error saying that vesafb.ko isnt in the folder it is supposed to be.. but it is there...
[01:06] <chrisx1> but i was pasting dmeg
[01:06] <chrisx1> *dmesg
[01:06] <pitti> chrisx1: oh, you should talk to me ("pitti: bla") :)
[01:06] <chrisx1> k
[01:06] <pitti> chrisx1: anyway, no /dev/sda1 -> no mounting
[01:07] <deFrysk> jason, the look of gnome 1x is gtk1 the look of gnome 2x is gtk2
[01:07] <BockBilbo> ive read about in some ubuntu forums, and more people have the same problem, though they dont know how to fix it... any idea?
[01:07] <onkarshinde> BockBilbo: Which kernel?
[01:07] <pitti> chrisx1: so you have a kernel problem, please send a dmesg pastebin link
[01:07] <chrisx1> pitti, ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[01:07] <quantum> BockBilbo it really does not have to be in a folder, but if you isnsmod vesafb.ko, it goes to your _system_ .. anyone correct me if i'm wrong. the automation of ubuntu is very functional
[01:07] <BockBilbo> 2.6.12-10-686
[01:08] <chrisx1> pitti: i cant get all the dmesg output
[01:08] <encompass> pitti, if the disk works in windows, reformat the sda disk and it will work
[01:08] <BockBilbo> it also happens with 2.6.12-9-686
[01:08] <BockBilbo> and the 386 versions
[01:08] <pitti> chrisx1: <pitti> chrisx1: oh, from dmesg? well, the last 50 lines or so are enough
[01:08] <dreumah> i am trying to install something and its asking me to be in root
[01:09] <dreumah> how to i do that?
[01:09] <onkarshinde> dreumah: what are you trying to install?
[01:09] <quantum> dreumah sudo -i
[01:09] <dreumah> XLIL
[01:09] <jason> is java set up on ubuntu?
[01:09] <onkarshinde> !tell dreumah about sudo
[01:09] <BockBilbo> quantum, but the thing is that the file is actually in there..
[01:10] <quantum> dreumah that give's you root access, root folder is like the first folder of the tree, the lowest branch
[01:10] <quantum> BockBilbo try giving the file a insmod vesafb.ko
[01:10] <onkarshinde> !tell jason about java
[01:10] <quantum> BockBilbo and i am not an expert you know
[01:10] <BockBilbo> ive tried that quantum
[01:10] <BockBilbo> i get : insmod: error inserting 'vesafb.ko': -1 File exists
[01:10] <dreumah> thank you
[01:10] <BockBilbo> :S
[01:11] <quantum> BockBilbo, so, you could say that the problem is not the file, but the boot process
[01:11] <quantum> BockBilbo and i have no idea on that
[01:11] <chrisx1> pitti, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2Ef37218.nln.html
[01:11] <sorush20> guys in kubuntu I'm unable to view all the partitions on my hdd from the media:/ folder can someone help please.?
[01:12] <BockBilbo> mm i guess..
[01:13] <BockBilbo> :S
[01:13] <pitti> chrisx1: according to that log, your kernel does see the device and partition, but it seems to be a bit shaky
[01:13] <BockBilbo> thanks anyway
[01:13] <pitti> chrisx1: do you have a hub in between, or something?
[01:13] <chrisx1> ya works on windows
[01:13] <nalioth> dreumah: do not enable a root account, read this instead
[01:13] <chrisx1> nope
[01:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dreumah about root
[01:13] <N6REJ> morning nalioth
[01:13] <nalioth> N6REJ: howdy
[01:13] <onkarshinde> nalioth: too late for reply. Already told him
[01:14] <Hobbsee> sorush20: /media/
[01:14] <nalioth> onkarshinde: sorry, i'm always slow
[01:14] <N6REJ> my system is using speaker "beeps" for beep instead of soundcard :(  but login sound plays well
[01:14] <N6REJ> hey Hobbsee sorry, didn't see you at first!
[01:14] <Hobbsee> hey N6REJ
[01:15] <Hobbsee> i'm semi lurking over 4 channels, so that's understandable
[01:15] <chrisx1> pitti, i dont have usb hub in
[01:15] <chrisx1> pitti, but the usb works in windows fine
[01:15] <pitti> chrisx1: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 3 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
[01:15] <pitti> scsi3 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
[01:15] <Zugwrack> Greets all....
[01:15] <pitti> chrisx1: that looks weird
[01:15] <N6REJ> I'm trying to learn how to use the desktop, but its a bit overwhelming... seems like I have no space compared to XP.  I have a 19" monitor and my screen has no room.
[01:15] <fec> can i install windows after ubuntu ?
[01:16] <nalioth> N6REJ: do you have your resolution set correctly?
[01:16] <N6REJ> as high as it will go... 1280 x 1024
[01:16] <N6REJ> @75hz
[01:16] <bimberi> fec: yes, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:16] <chrisx1> the device works fine to listen to music:S
[01:16] <fec> thx bimberi
[01:16] <Zugwrack> N6REJ: Why would that be I have a 17 Apple Display with all the room in the world...
[01:16] <bimberi> fec: np :)
[01:16] <onkarshinde> fec: Sure you can. First make a boot floppy for Ubuntu.
[01:16] <N6REJ> Zugwrack: thats what I don't get... its weird.
[01:17] <fec> thx onkarshinde
[01:17] <encompass> I can't get on my network
[01:17] <Zugwrack> N6REJ:Does your display look correct? What kind of video card?
[01:17] <encompass> can someone help?
[01:17] <chrisx1> pitti, the device works fine to listen to music:S
[01:17] <N6REJ> Nvidia FX5200 AGP 8x with 128mb dram
[01:17] <onkarshinde> encompass: State your problem
[01:17] <encompass> it won't get a dhcp ip address
[01:17] <N6REJ> no, it LOOKS like about 800 x 600
[01:17] <kvantti> kewl but i hope noone saw that =)
[01:17] <Zugwrack> encompass: That is too generic a statement...what do you mean? No internet, no smb connection, no ?
[01:17] <pitti> chrisx1: hm, sorry, no idea any more; you can file a kernel bug and put a link to your dmesg output there
[01:17] <brenner> N6REJ: start customising then ... decrease font size and panel size is what i usually do
[01:17] <pitti> chrisx1: i. e. a bug against 'linux'
[01:18] <marlun> hwo do I install a .deb file I've download from a website instead of the repository?
[01:18] <encompass> know it works I used debian before
[01:18] <chrisx1> how and where pitti
[01:18] <nalioth> N6REJ: do you only have the resolution you desire in the xorg.conf  ?
[01:18] <kvantti> i could go us ap to 2048x1536 =)
[01:18] <bimberi> marlun: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:18] <marlun> bimberi, thanks
[01:18] <dreumah> if an application cant connect to the x server what could be the problem?
[01:18] <bimberi> marlun: yw
[01:18] <encompass> I can see the device jsut fine
[01:18] <pitti> chrisx1: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Ubuntu
[01:18] <N6REJ> thats the highest I have.... wait.. xorg.conf? never looked... let me look
[01:18] <encompass> but it won't work when I try to connect
[01:19] <Zugwrack> encompass: When you installed Ubuntu did you see it say detecting network settings? If so did it get an ip? Best thing to do is just assign a static IP anyway
[01:19] <onkarshinde> encompass: Go to Meny System->Administration->Networking. See if every setting is fine.
[01:19] <liable> encompass: dhclient eth0 (or foo)
[01:19] <encompass> yes, everything is setup fine there
[01:19] <encompass> yup did that
[01:19] <encompass> nothing
[01:19] <encompass> it tries but no fo
[01:19] <kvantti> Zugwrack my rt2500 chipset (he has rt too) is not identified by the install, but it runs after install
[01:19] <encompass> go
[01:19] <Zugwrack> kvantti: K thanks for the info
[01:19] <onkarshinde> dreumah: Which application? What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:19] <marlun> Sometimes shortcuts are added to the applications menu but you need to update the desktop somehow, is there a way to do it with a command?
[01:20] <encompass> I am jsut trying to get the standard eth0 card working
[01:20] <encompass> then wireless
[01:20] <marlun> (you need to update the desktop for the shortcut to apear)
[01:20] <onkarshinde> marlun: You mean you have to update panel. 'killall gnome-panel'
[01:20] <marlun> onkarshinde, ah, yeah =) thanks
[01:20] <Zugwrack> encompass: Go to a term window and do ifconfig eth0 and see what it says
[01:20] <encompass> ok
[01:20] <Zugwrack> encompass: I assume you only have one nic?
[01:21] <encompass> it sees the mac address
[01:21] <brenner> marlun: i think you mean the app menu: killall gnome-panel
[01:21] <encompass> but nothing but 0's otherwise
[01:21] <Zugwrack> encompass: What is is showing as the ip address for the NIC?
[01:21] <marlun> brenner, yeah, onkarshinde allready said that ;P but thanks
[01:21] <kvantti> ifconfig eth0 static inet dhcp would be the console command to get dhcp, or ifconfig static inet 192.168.11.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.11.1 would give me static setup
[01:21] <N6REJ> nalioth: hang on and I'll give you a pastebin.
[01:21] <encompass> I don't see it
[01:21] <liable> encompass: ifconfig eth0 up
[01:21] <liable> encompass: dhclient eth0
[01:22] <encompass> liable did that
[01:22] <brenner> marlun: heh, whoops
[01:22] <encompass> nothing
[01:22] <kvantti> encompass are you sure your dsl modem (+router) is up
[01:22] <encompass> yes, I am on it now
[01:22] <N6REJ> I'd like to turn the overclock on but I don't know how except for in xp
[01:22] <liable> encompass: : then your router doesnt do dhcp, put it in manually or change your router config.
[01:22] <dreumah> i am trying to run XLIL so i can play halo 2 over network
[01:23] <agtnz> I have a question. Is the SVN Cedega (free) the same as the bought Cedega?
[01:23] <N6REJ> for the video card that is.
[01:23] <Zugwrack> encompass: Hmm...may have a borked install for some reason...we are assuming this is a standard NIC? Not wireless or anything like that?
[01:23] <onkarshinde> encompass: Do you mean you are connecting to net with DSL modem? How did you set it?
[01:23] <fec> why no php on synaptic default repositories?
[01:23] <rindolf> Hi all! How can I kill processes that are marked in the D state by ps aux?
[01:23] <encompass> standard dhcp
[01:23] <encompass> nothing fancy
[01:23] <kvantti> N6REJ for nvidia atleast, the synaptic hold's an overclocking soft..if you add the "command line" item in the panel, you have a nifty console line ready to activate a program after install
[01:23] <onkarshinde> fec: There is. It seems that you haven't edited sources.list to enable all of them.
[01:23] <bimberi> fec: php3, php4, php5
[01:24] <fec> thx again onkarshinde and bimberi!
[01:24] <N6REJ> kvantti: huh?
[01:24] <kvantti> NB
[01:24] <encompass> I don't understand why something so simple is not working
[01:24] <Zugwrack> onkashinde: Great point...is there a router in between the dsl modem and your computer?
[01:24] <encompass> it blows my mind here
[01:24] <encompass> sigh
[01:24] <Zugwrack> *onkarshinde*
[01:24] <gwark> is there a instant message program like gaim that has camera support ?
[01:24] <kvantti> N6REJ you can add a command line item to your panel..right click the panel and select add to panel
[01:25] <jason> i just installed java but it wont work in firefox
[01:25] <onkarshinde> gwark: Not yet. Wait for gaim2.0
[01:25] <fec> err, any suggestion on extra repositories? where can i find em?
[01:25] <kvantti> N6REJ if i type gnome-alsamixer in it, it will run gnome-alsamixer..just an example
[01:25] <gwark> onkarshinde   cheers  :)     is it in the making ?
[01:25] <N6REJ> oh, ok... what do I add for nvidia control panel?
[01:25] <encompass> gwark game 2 comming soon
[01:25] <dreumah> onkarshinde i am trying to run XLIL so i can play halo 2 over network
[01:25] <encompass> gaim 2
[01:25] <Hobbsee> gwark: kopete, i think - it's got new webcam support in rc1
[01:26] <Hobbsee> !tell fec about repos
[01:26] <onkarshinde> jason: Perhaps you will have to create link (lunch? -s) to liboji*.so into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins directory.
[01:26] <kvantti> N6REJ if you install the software from synaptic package manager from start menu, you should be able to run the soft which's name is in synaptic (the soft) by typing the name in that panel item
[01:26] <gwark> Hobbsee  thanks :)   whats rcl ?
[01:26] <bimberi> ubotu tell fec about easysource
[01:26] <Hobbsee> gwark: release candidate 1 - not in main repos
[01:26] <Zugwrack> What do I need to install as a bare minimum to get KDE installed...I already have the base Ubuntu installed...
[01:26] <N6REJ> kvantti: ok... is there a package I have to install for the nvidia stuff?
[01:26] <nalioth> jason: how did you install java?
[01:26] <melonipoika> hi all, has anyone seted up nvu in ubuntu?
[01:27] <gwark> ahh so ive to go a hunting to find it Hobbsee ?
[01:27] <kvantti> N6REJ let me see the package name. you have your repositories configured?
[01:27] <melonipoika> jason: use automatix
[01:27] <onkarshinde> gwark: gaim 2 is in development. Should be released by end of year. But we will get to see RC in december first week.
[01:27] <N6REJ> kvantti: yep
[01:27] <fec> thx
[01:27] <carlinhos> #a_estrada
[01:27] <Hobbsee> gwark: give it a week or so, and it should be out, i think teh plan is
[01:27] <N6REJ> kvantti: unless they've changed in 24 hours
[01:27] <Hobbsee> otherwise test out gaim2
[01:27] <encompass> be careful though
[01:27] <kvantti> N6REJ search for nvclock
[01:27] <gwark> thanks guys ;)
[01:28] <jason> i have used this to install http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[01:28] <N6REJ> kvantti: ok... brb
[01:28] <kvantti> N6REJ you would install nvclock and nvclock-gtk for the gui
[01:28] <N6REJ> k
[01:28] <nalioth> jason: well, that doesnt work well
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jason about javadebs
[01:28] <onkarshinde> Hobbsee: That is a dangerous advice. Some developer on #gaim said that it is waste of time trying to build gaim2 with voice and video support
[01:28] <Zugwrack> Is support for iSight vid cams supported in ubuntu?
[01:29] <jason> hay thanks
[01:29] <Hobbsee> onkarshinde: right - i dont use gaim, but was more meaning that if gaim2 had it, it would make sense to try and test out gaim2
[01:29] <nabil> lut
[01:29] <kvantti> i wonder too, if digital television cards are/will be at least supported. i am thinking of bying a hauppauge for christmas
[01:29] <Hobbsee> onkarshinde: i'll try to shut up a bit lol
[01:30] <Kojiro> lut
[01:30] <kevind> does the ubuntu cd have some kind of repair isntallation function?
[01:30] <kvantti> kevind, you can use the boot cd for a rescue mode
[01:30] <bungle_> hi all
[01:30] <bungle_> how do I install java in firefox?
[01:30] <kvantti> kevind look in the information from the boot: line . that is, use the F-keys
[01:31] <Zugwrack> Hey bungle
[01:31] <onkarshinde> !tell bungle_ about java
[01:31] <kevind> kvantti, well i ment more along the lines that very improtant stuff was deleted and i want to add it back in
[01:31] <kvantti> kevind, oh , use synaptic lol
[01:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bungle_ about javadebs
[01:31] <kevind> very important.. core stuff.
[01:31] <kvantti> how many times a second do we say "synaptic"
[01:32] <Zugwrack> kevind: I think that maybe if your system is broken you can boot and hit the tab key..read the options for install..I think a couple are "rescue"
[01:32] <kvantti> kevind well core stuff is like kernel, found, libs, found, config, reinstall
[01:32] <gar-> anyone here know how to mount a ntfs partition thanks
[01:32] <leagris> Can I pick a 2.6.14 kernel from next ubuntu to load it in breezy ?  I need some SATA bugs fixed and 2.6.12-9 suck at SATA
[01:32] <brenner> Zugwrack: is that a webcam?
[01:32] <Zugwrack> gar: mount -t ntfs <blah>
[01:32] <Zugwrack> brenner: Yes..
[01:33] <Hobbsee> !tell gar- about mount
[01:33] <rohan> hi all
[01:33] <Zugwrack> gar: Note you must have a directory created to mount to..
[01:33] <onkarshinde> leagris: you will have to compile whatever kernel you want yourself
[01:33] <onkarshinde> Hi rohan
[01:33] <brenner> Zugwrack: i can't find it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:33] <Hobbsee> gar-: the second link of what ubotu sent you
[01:33] <rohan> whenever i run screen, gnu screen, i get a message saying "could not write to /var/run/utmp" no such process
[01:34] <Zugwrack> brenner: K thanks...it is Firewire..and I don't see it detected it...
[01:34] <kvantti> so, does someone know would a 300 wat power and 6600 gt + a shitload of hardware would be the cause for a total system crash when finally, i got cube active. blank screen - > nothing
[01:34] <gar-> yes is ok now i need to know how to unmounted it lol
[01:34] <brenner> Zugwrack: but that doesn't necessarily mean it won't work
[01:34] <N6REJ> hmmm.... network is all of the sudden slower then heck!
[01:34] <brenner> Zugwrack: just that someone hasn't recorded a success/failure
[01:35] <onkarshinde> gar-: umount
[01:35] <leagris> onkarshinde, then I will break nvidia binary ubuntu package and loos many ubuntu patches. Is ther a guide to building proper ubuntu packaged kernel with non free drivers support ?
[01:35] <onkarshinde> leagris: Sorry, I don't know. Try searching wiki
[01:35] <Zugwrack> brenner: Ok...I will play with it and see what I can find out...I must comment that Breezy is even nicer than Hoary...I can even use my apple keyboard volume keys and such! Detected my external firewire drive, ipod,and firewire DVD burner..all setup without any fuss...too kewl
[01:36] <chrisx1> ivo_,  u there?
[01:36] <korhojoa> wtf.
[01:36] <bungle_> how do I activate infrared?
[01:36] <N6REJ> kvantti: 300w ain't much!  the minute your syset runs outa power things will start crashing.
[01:36] <rohan> leagris: why do you want to compile your own kernel ?
[01:36] <ekimus> hi, anyone could tell me how digitally sign a document in oo.org2? i can't find a way to import it
[01:36] <korhojoa> I'm trying to join #debian, but i get shuffled over here
[01:36] <rohan> onkarshinde: hi :)
[01:36] <kvantti> N6REJ yeah i believe there will no fps gaming until i get that 400 wat
[01:36] <nalioth> gar-: in a terminal, type man mount
[01:37] <rohan> leagris: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[01:37] <kvantti> N6REJ running at the moment dvd-rw, cd-rw 160 gig hdd, throughbred processor, wlan card, 5.1 card, and a syncmaster 957p
[01:37] <N6REJ> kvantti: dont buy a supply based on "stated watts" look at the currents for each individual voltage.  they are playing games these days with wattage figures
[01:37] <leagris> Rubin, beause actual one 2.6.12-9 has critical bugs in SATA ATAPI device and DMA support that prevent me from using my SATA DVD burner and hard drive without system lockup and or slowdown
[01:37] <jason> sell jason about lilo
[01:37] <rohan> leagris: this guide is pretty neat. ^^
[01:38] <gar-> it is mounted but say i dont have permission when i open the folder =/
[01:38] <jason> tell jason about lilo
[01:38] <makao> hey i'm new and testing if its working
[01:38] <N6REJ> hmmm... I can't pastebin or access repository
[01:38] <brenner> Zugwrack: yep.  the under-the-hood improvements were great.  i could finaly enable DMA on this laptop using the new kernel
[01:38] <jason> !tell jason about lilo
[01:38] <leagris> thanks Rubin
[01:38] <leagris> thax rohan
[01:38] <rohan> leagris: hmm.. i am rohan , not Rubin :)
[01:38] <rohan> ok
[01:38] <bungle_> !tell bungle about irda
[01:38] <rohan> np
[01:38] <kvantti> N6REJ i trust on my familiar salesman. i have succesfully ran older directx games in windows, but every now and then there was a crash. he told me this power i am planning on is one of the few FI-approved power's and that means quality
[01:38] <gar-> ah have to be root to access patetic
[01:38] <leagris> blame my tab completion lazyness :)
[01:38] <kvantti> N6REJ this 300 wat i got he said is better then a bad 400 wat which he warned me about
[01:38] <N6REJ> what is it?
[01:39] <nalioth> jason: if you register your self, you can talk to the bot in a private message
[01:39] <rohan> leagris: xchat ?
[01:39] <nalioth> gar-: use sudo
[01:39] <rohan> gar-: sudo -i
[01:39] <gar-> ok
[01:39] <leagris> that's it rohan
[01:39] <kevind> i think this fucking thing removed bash
[01:39] <kvantti> N6REJ the power?
[01:39] <N6REJ> yeah
[01:40] <N6REJ> I'm getting a new one for xmas
[01:40] <kvantti> N6REJ let me screw it open, i am interested the case lol
[01:40] <kvantti> n6REJ orion atx-300pt
[01:41] <Zugwrack> brenner: Here is one solution it appears.... Coriander is a GUI that let you control your 1394 digital video camera interactively. It features SDL display, FTP image posting, file saving, and Real streaming. It is for IIDC cameras, not for consumer grade DV cameras.
[01:41] <gar-> nalioth, still i canot access it from kde only from console
[01:41] <N6REJ> I'll have to look that up.  Are you staying with orion for new one?
[01:41] <nalioth> gar-: can't access what?
[01:41] <gar-> the folder
[01:41] <Zugwrack> nalioth: He was asking about accessing ntfs driver earlier
[01:41] <gar-> when i open the folder that where is supost to be the mount say that i dont have perssion to open
[01:41] <kvantti> N6REJ this is originally a very bad package but i have spent a couple of years building my dream machine from piece to piece. the only things original are the motherboard, processor and power
[01:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gar- about easymount
[01:42] <N6REJ> kvantti: yep, thats the only way... do it a piece at a time.
[01:42] <jason> where is fire fox installed
[01:42] <nalioth> jason: do you have the java debs from gianarros?
[01:42] <gar-> u dont get my point but is ok =)
[01:43] <chrisx1> rebooting
[01:43] <kvantti> N6REJ i recently got a compucase aluminum case which looks so cool with my logitech deluxe and the zalman theatre 6 sitting headset sitting on top of it
[01:43] <onkarshinde> nalioth: I read somewhere that breezy automatically mounts all non-linux partitons. Wasn't that true? I mean why should someone have to manually mount them?
[01:43] <jason> its still downloading
[01:43] <Zugwrack> gar-: You have to find out what the username permissions are for your ntfs drive...then you can create a user under ubuntu with those permissions and it should let you access the folder...I am not sure how file permissions vary on Windows..so this is just how I learned to do it for my macintosh hard drive..but then OS X is on a unix layer
[01:43] <onkarshinde> jason: Why do you need to know?
[01:43] <N6REJ> kvantti: :D
[01:43] <kvantti> N6REJ even my stereo main unit is silver and shiny =)
[01:43] <nalioth> jason: when it is downloaded and you install it, you will have java in your firefox
[01:44] <gar-> okeley
[01:44] <nalioth> onkarshinde: if breezy does mount them, it does it in a horrible fashion
[01:44] <N6REJ> wth.... I can't pastebin, or access repository... keeps timing out :(
[01:44] <djib> hello
[01:44] <djib> I have some questions about distant desktop with ssh or vnc
[01:44] <Zugwrack> nalioth: I thought with firefox being included with the install it would have java already setup?
[01:44] <djib> can I import to my local computer a session on another computer
[01:44] <djib> using ssh -X I can lauch applications
[01:44] <nalioth> Zugwrack: java is illegal to ship with ubuntu
[01:45] <N6REJ> nalioth: why?
[01:45] <djib> but I would like to recover an application already lauchned
[01:45] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Ahh..ok restricted..gotcha..thanks
[01:45] <onkarshinde> djib: Why don't you use vnc?
[01:45] <djib> onkarshinde, yes, that's an idea
[01:45] <Tha_Hill> is their a good howto on installing the nvidia drivers on ubuntu, i did see the kernel-headers installed, does that mean i can just use the nvidia driver package?
[01:46] <djib> but the thing is that I don't want to leave vnc on all the time
[01:46] <JDahl> is the kernel amd64-k8 especially for Athlon64?
[01:46] <djib> so I logged in ssh and lauched vino in export display
[01:46] <melonipoika> i cannot make nvu to open firefox, anyone has any idea?
[01:46] <djib> but it seems that I cannot activate vnc this way
[01:46] <topyli> djib: ssh in, start vnc server, connect the client
[01:46] <gar-> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "0 GB Disk (hda1)".
[01:46] <djib> yes, this didn't work topyli
[01:47] <djib> it ended up saying to log in vnc type in vncviewer localhost.localdomain
[01:47] <topyli> djib: oh, you wanted to connect to the existing session. sorry, i'm illiterate
[01:47] <djib> which obviously won't work
[01:47] <onkarshinde> djib: why don't you keep vnc running?
[01:47] <djib> onkarshinde, well vino doesn't allow only specific users to log in
[01:48] <djib> so I thought that it might not be great for security
[01:48] <onkarshinde> djib: You can use XDMPP (if I am correct). It is somewhere in Applications->System Tools->Terminal Client something like that.
[01:48] <N6REJ> this is too weird... apparently I can chat here but nothing else over the network.
[01:48] <N6REJ> everything was fine earlier.
[01:49] <djib> what is this onkarshinde ?
[01:49] <djib> is it like vnc ?
[01:49] <odin> Is there a way to chmod -r but only have it apply to directories?
[01:49] <leagris> JDahl, amd64-k8 is especially for Athlon64, I use it on an XP3500+ Shuttle SN25P nforce4 chipset. Work like a charm.
[01:49] <onkarshinde> djib: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO.html
[01:49] <djib> thanks
[01:49] <topyli> N6REJ: yes, #ubuntu takes over your irc client. WE ARE TEH ONLY ONE ;)
[01:49] <JDahl> leagris, thanks
[01:50] <cion> hey how do i install a webcam, what's he best software to use a webcam?
[01:50] <dpupp> how do i extract a tar file into a root folder? i tried: sudo tar -x file.tar
[01:50] <N6REJ> topyli: LOL... I've never had this sytem bog down like this... something must be misconfigured! or new kernel is leaky!
[01:50] <dpupp> but that just leaves it hanging there doing nothing
[01:50] <dpupp> or better yet, how do you move many files at once?
[01:50] <odin> dpupp, cp -r
[01:50] <onkarshinde> djib: It may work slight different in ubuntu. You better find out first
[01:51] <kvantti> i wonder if dsl operators can block specifically p2p activity, my torrent functionality is totally dead in both bittorrent and azureus..dont ask me why it might be
[01:51] <topyli> dpupp: you have to use the -f option, or it won't know a filename is about to come up
[01:51] <djib> onkarshinde, but this allows to log in on a distant computer
[01:51] <onkarshinde> dpupp: sudo tar -xvf filename.tar
[01:51] <djib> not to recover an existing session
[01:51] <djib> does it ?
[01:51] <N6REJ> brb, I'm going to shutdown all extra network stuff and see what happens... I can't even access the repositorys
[01:51] <dpupp> thanks. I will try that
[01:51] <onkarshinde> djib: I am not sure about it. But I think it does.
[01:52] <J_Element> if i downloaded a sound driver how do i install it ?
[01:52] <leagris> cion, depond on if your webcam brand has drivers. I use a Philips Toucam740K Pro USB. Load as a regular v4l video device. You may like to use any tv ok video viewer able to deal with v4l. My oprefered one is camstream
[01:52] <onkarshinde> J_Element: And why was there a need to download it? Which sound card?
[01:52] <cion> i have a quickcam
[01:52] <topyli> J_Element: what sort of a sound card makes one to download stuff from the web?
[01:52] <cion> how do i see if it's recognised by ubuntu?
[01:53] <djib> apparently not onkarshinde
[01:53] <J_Element> built in ! intel 915 GAV
[01:53] <djib> anyway
[01:53] <J_Element> i downloaded the driver
[01:53] <J_Element> .deb
[01:53] <progbliss> cion: there might be something in dmesg. That's the case for me. QuickCam here
[01:53] <djib> I'm going to eat now
[01:53] <J_Element> how do i  install :S
[01:53] <djib> see you guys
[01:53] <cion> whats dmesg (sorry im noob)
[01:53] <kvantti> is my nvidia 6600 gt really this good .. the nvidia-settings will only allow me to override antialiasing to 16x =)
[01:53] <leagris> cion, you may try to plug it. Ubuntu comes with many supported dryvers. Some quickcam has ov511 chipset some other chipset. Depend on model. Searching google with linu+webcam+brandname+chipset may let you know if it is supported.
[01:54] <kvantti> time to give cube_unix another shot
[01:54] <onkarshinde> J_Element: can you state your problem with the card? I mean may be there is some configuration issue. I am pretty sure it is already supported
[01:54] <djib> J_Element, sudo dpkg -i package.deb ?
[01:54] <ElvenProgrammer> there are known issues with java and ubuntu?
[01:54] <cion> ok thx all
[01:54] <dpupp> yay! i got it working! http://192.168.0.101/      | now to set up the configuration of apache.
[01:54] <J_Element> its not working
[01:54] <J_Element> i mean its not defined
[01:54] <onkarshinde> ElvenProgrammer: None if you use Sun Java. Don't know about free implementation
[01:54] <J_Element> i cant run any prog ! cuz it says its not configured
[01:55] <topyli> ElvenProgrammer: it works fine. however, java itself is an "issue"
[01:55] <ogra> ElvenProgrammer, in breezy java is in multiverse .... just install it
[01:55] <ElvenProgrammer> onkarshinde: i tryed one of the java examples and it compiles but doesn't run
[01:55] <dpupp> would someone care to check if this page loads for them? http://192.168.0.101/
[01:55] <ElvenProgrammer> dpupp: that's a lan address
[01:55] <dpupp> err wait no.
[01:55] <onkarshinde> ElvenProgrammer: with which java?
[01:55] <dpupp> yeah my bad.
[01:55] <ElvenProgrammer> onkarshinde: java's one
[01:55] <onkarshinde> J_Element: what are you trying to play?
[01:55] <dpupp> http://65.189.185.5 (there we go. try that)
[01:56] <J_Element> any kind of mp3 !
[01:56] <onkarshinde> ElvenProgrammer: And how did you try to run?
[01:56] <J_Element> i just need to play mp3s
[01:56] <leagris> ElvenProgrammer, there are some. I managed to install sun JDSK and have java working as a plugin in my browser. I was unable to get good support for eclipse IDE though.
[01:56] <rob_p> dpupp:  Yes.
[01:56] <onkarshinde> !tell J_Element about mp3
[01:56] <ElvenProgrammer> onkarshinde: java HelloWorldSwing
[01:56] <odin> Is there a way to make panels autohide in gnome?
[01:56] <Zugwrack> What is the program to do screen captures under gnome?
[01:56] <dpupp> everything in the /var/www/ should only have read permitions correct?
[01:57] <onkarshinde> leagris: I am running Eclipse 3.1.1 on Breezy without any problems.
[01:57] <nalioth> dpupp: nobody is gonna hit that page, that is on your internal network
[01:57] <topyli> odin: right click on a panel, choose preferences, click autohide
[01:57] <dpupp> nalioth, i fixed it... corrected the misposted ip...
[01:57] <onkarshinde> ElvenProgrammer: try 'java -cp . HelloWorldSwing'
[01:58] <Zugwrack> !tell Zugwrack about java
[01:58] <topyli> dpupp: it works
[01:58] <onkarshinde> Zugwrack: I don't remember the name, but you can justt press printscreen button on keyboard
[01:58] <nalioth> dpupp: pocket pc games?
[01:58] <odin> topyli, Thank you
[01:58] <dpupp> no, pocket PC themes.
[01:58] <jason> how do i use apt-get
[01:58] <onkarshinde> jason: man apt-get
[01:58] <leagris> onkarshinde, yep, plain Eclipse is ok. I just have problems using eclipse plugins. The problem is the plugins are not packaged and I shoud have to installe them manually. Not a big issue though I appologise.
[01:59] <ElvenProgrammer> onkarshinde: same, i think it's using gij and not the sun one, is that possible?
[01:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jason about apt-get
[01:59] <onkarshinde> jason: you will have to 'sudo apt-get command'
[01:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ElvenProgrammer about multijava
[01:59] <onkarshinde> ElvenProgrammer: No there is no binary named java in gij. What error do you get?
[02:00] <chrisx1> irvin, still dont work
[02:00] <onkarshinde> leagris: You could try eclipse from repos. But it runs horribly slow.
[02:00] <J_Element> it didnt help
[02:00] <J_Element> my sound card is still fricken not configured or define
[02:00] <J_Element> d
[02:00] <onkarshinde> leagris: And then you can always use update manager of eclipse to install plugins.
[02:00] <j813> hi, 5.10 can only play sounds for 1 program at a time?
[02:00] <Zugwrack> onkarshinde: kewl thanks...
[02:01] <ElvenProgrammer> onkarshinde: it seems gij has got a binary called java, nalioth thx for the suggestion
[02:01] <onkarshinde> J_Element: it is not about soundcard. Did you follow instructions on that page? And which player are you using to play mp3s?
[02:01] <brenda> holaaaaaaaaa
[02:01] <Zugwrack> Hey brenda..
[02:02] <progbliss> Is there anything I need to worry about before compiling a 32-bit app on amd64?
[02:03] <onkarshinde> j813: Configure your sound card to use ALSA by default. Use System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector
[02:03] <buildg8s> hello
[02:03] <j813> ok TY
[02:03] <buildg8s> hello
[02:03] <nalioth> progbliss: it'll probably come out the other end a 64 bit app?
[02:03] <buildg8s> help me running my ubuntu as fast as windows OS
[02:03] <buildg8s> help me please
[02:03] <buildg8s> what will I do?
[02:04] <progbliss> nalioth: I can configure it to come out as a 32-bit, configure --host x86
[02:04] <leagris> onkarshinde, I guess I'll have to do it the hard way instead of picking ubuntu packages. That juste makes me scarry to mess ubuntu while instaling third party not packaged. Las time I wrote java code what with vi and running javac on command line :) I am more interested in using eclipse for C/C++, XUL and Luxor or other Xulrener engine. Found some XUL plugin for Eclipse but didn't managed to get it installed.
[02:04] <nalioth> progbliss: then have fun :)
[02:05] <progbliss> nalioth: over your head, huh? Ah well...
[02:05] <brenner> buildg8s: elaborate for a start :P
[02:05] <irvin> buildg8s: why would you want to slow down ubuntu?
[02:05] <jason> i'm using aptitude how do i download/install new items
[02:05] <nalioth> progbliss: i'm a short fella, lots of things are over my head
[02:05] <nalioth> jason: man aptitude
[02:06] <n00blar> Is anyone having problems setting up more than one network profile? I can work just fine with 2 profiles (1 is wireless), but when I try to add the third one (2nd wireless) the settings don't get saved for the third profile.
[02:06] <topyli> jason: if you're running the interactive aptitude, press ? for help
[02:06] <Zugwrack> brenner: I just installed coriander from the repository...Now I have access to my iSight video camera...can you give me the link to add my comments to Ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ava> hallo :)
[02:07] <brenner> Zugwrack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:07] <Zugwrack> brenner: Thanks
[02:07] <brenner> Zugwrack: good on you for contributing
[02:07] <Ava> ist hier zufllig jemand, der einer vollidiotin helfen kann?
[02:08] <bezibaerchen> Ava: wsa gibts kirsten?
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ava - ubuntu-de
[02:08] <nalioth> !de
[02:08] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[02:08] <limguohong91> Hey when i update my Ubunt from 5.0.4 to 5.10 I did not use a CD and when i load the command in Termainla. It shows this
[02:08] <limguohong91>  Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _breezy Hedgehog
[02:08] <limguohong91> Is it normal?
[02:09] <sexcopter8000m> hi, just looking on the forums for breezy backport information. can anyone explain the difference between the breezy extras and breezy backports?
[02:09] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: afaik, there are no breezy backports
[02:09] <guiss> hi, i am trying to use a debian chroot environment in ubuntu, following the instructions of section 8.6.35 in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html. When i put "6:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/chroot /sid-root /sbin/getty 38400 tty6", ubuntu brings that tty black, any workaround?
[02:09] <buildg8s> hello limguohong91
[02:09] <irvin> nalioth: yes there is
[02:09] <buildg8s> is there a way to speed up my ubuntu
[02:09] <limguohong91> Ya buildg8s ?
[02:09] <nalioth> irvin: there are pkgs in backports?
[02:09] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, i added the apt line for backports and got some new updates, so there must be some stuff there, but it didn't looklike much
[02:09] <buildg8s> help me please
[02:09] <irvin> nalioth: lookie here packages.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <buildg8s> is there a way to speed up my ubuntu
[02:10] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, but it sounds like the breezy extras is unsupported... so i wonder what's in it for me to add it
[02:10] <chrisx1> irvin, my flash drive still doesnt work?
[02:10] <chrisx1> do i need to format it?
[02:10] <nalioth> buildg8s: please ask a question and quit bothering folks with needless chatter
[02:10] <irvin> chrisx1: you're using hoary right?
[02:10] <chrisx1> yers
[02:11] <buildg8s> what will I do to speed up my ubuntu
[02:11] <chrisx1> irvin, im on hoary
[02:11] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: There lies your problem. I faced issues with flash disk in hoary. Sometimes it got mounted automaticall, sometimes it didn't
[02:11] <irvin> chrisx1: automounting should work but you said that it was an mp3 player right? have you connected it before in windows?
[02:11] <nalioth> well, i'll be hanged, pkgs ARE showing up in backports
[02:11] <chrisx1> yes irvin
[02:11] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: You can try rebooting with the disk still inserted in USB.
[02:12] <limguohong91> When I go to system > Administarion > Package Manager. It shows this. "Cannot load entry..... Details:Error reading.......:File not found." How can i fix this?
[02:12] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: if i were you, i'd only enable bp and extras for things you know you want
[02:12] <chrisx1> i rebooted like 10/20 mins ago
[02:12] <chrisx1> with usb in
[02:12] <gnomefreak> nalioth, there are a few like the x-chat update was in backport
[02:12] <onkarshinde> nalioth: As you said you are always late. Gnomebaker is updated to 0.5.0 in backports.
[02:12] <irvin> chrisx1: whe you opened it in windows? what type of filesystem was it? fat32?
[02:12] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Also xchat to 2.6.0
[02:12] <apokryphos> svn!
[02:12] <chrisx1> fat32 or fat
[02:12] <buildg8s> hello
[02:12] <nalioth> onkarshinde: better late then never, my friend
[02:12] <buildg8s> help me please
[02:12] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[02:12] <johnnybezak> and gals
[02:12] <rindolf> Hi all!
[02:13] <buildg8s> what will I do to speed up loading my ubuntu
[02:13] <buildg8s> please help me
[02:13] <nalioth> buildg8s: please ask a logical question, and quit spamming the channel. thank you
[02:13] <irvin> chrisx1: mount -t vfat should work but your error was there was no special device sda
[02:13] <rindolf> How do I do a search inside uninstalled package contents (the files contained in them)?
[02:13] <chrisx1> yer
[02:13] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: Why don't you update to breezy instead? It is not more than 1/2 hour work.
[02:13] <j813> I can't eject my CD/ DVD, I have to eject it thru the Desktop. Is this normal?
[02:13] <rindolf> Similar to urpmf in Mandriva?
[02:13] <onkarshinde> buildg8s: increase RAM
[02:13] <buildg8s> what else
[02:13] <onkarshinde> j813: Perfectly normall.
[02:13] <chrisx1> onkarshinde, i am when i get the disk from my dads house unless i can like upgrade from the internet
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> j813,  you mean 'eject' as in hit the button and it pops out?
[02:13] <buildg8s> but it works fine in windows
[02:14] <gnomefreak> j813, its normal i have to do that sometimes
[02:14] <j813> Dr yep
[02:14] <onkarshinde> chrisx1: Upgrade over net.
[02:14] <chrisx1> how?
[02:14] <limguohong91> When I go to system > Administarion > Package Manager. It shows this. "Cannot load entry..... Details: Error reading.......:File not found." How can i fix this, this happen after i update to breezy?
[02:14] <progbliss> buildg8s: are you asking what settings you can change in order to increase speed?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> j813,  the desktop/gnome has accesed it and has it 'locked' - its normal
[02:14] <rony> any one had Xglx working on Ubuntu
[02:14] <buildg8s> yap
[02:14] <j813> oh OK thanks
[02:14] <scanwinder> i just installed vmware in breezy and, it says i need to run the command "/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl"....when i run it, it just sits there with a blank line, anyone know what would cause that?
[02:14] <buildg8s> definitely yes
[02:14] <onkarshinde> j813: the CD?DVD is mounted and drive is locked until you eject it from UI.
[02:15] <buildg8s> progbliss:  yes, definitely
[02:15] <jason> is it me or is ubuntu 5.10 a longer install?
[02:15] <chrisx1> onkarshinde, how??
[02:15] <sabmann> jason, yes
[02:15] <onkarshinde> !tell chrisx1 about upgrade
[02:15] <j813> onkarshinde: that's for Linux in general right?
[02:15] <progbliss> buildg8s: OK, now there's two different things I can try to help you speed up. The video card might not be in use, installing drivers might fix that, or it might be the whole system.
[02:15] <onkarshinde> j813: right.
[02:15] <gnomefreak> jason,  its a little bit longer only cause it has more packages by default
[02:15] <chrisx1> ty
[02:16] <j813> ok TY
[02:16] <korhojoa> so, how do i mount a NTFS usb disk under the live cd?
[02:16] <buildg8s> progbliss: then
[02:16] <rubem> hi there
[02:16] <buildg8s> I have already installed it
[02:16] <korhojoa> read only, though
[02:16] <rubem> does ubuntu comes with GCC?
[02:16] <progbliss> buildg8s: is it just games that are problematic or whole system?
[02:16] <irvin> rubem:  yes
[02:16] <brenner> jason, sabmann, gnomefreak: really?  i didn't get the "setting up" packages scrolling text this time around.  seemed a lot wuicker to me
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> rubem,  apt-get build essentials
[02:16] <brenner> quicker even
[02:16] <onkarshinde> korhojoa: try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /somedir -o ro'
[02:17] <rubem> irvin: damn, I must have deleted!
[02:17] <irvin> rubem:  sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:17] <nalioth> rubem: no it does not, but you can install "build-essential" and get it easily
[02:17] <irvin> rubem: it's not install by default
[02:17] <buildg8s> whole system because as I booted my computer its takes several minutes to load up
[02:17] <rubem> Dr_Willis irvin nalioth thank you all :)
[02:17] <sabmann> brenner, i've got a duron 1600
[02:17] <onkarshinde> rubem: install build-essential
[02:17] <progbliss> alright.
[02:17] <progbliss>  Let me think here...
[02:17] <rubem> "build-essentials" or  "build essentials"
[02:18] <rubem> ?
[02:18] <irvin> rubem:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:18] <irvin> my bad
[02:18] <sabmann> rubem, it's build-essential
[02:18] <sabmann> without the s!
[02:18] <progbliss> buildg8s: going to need a little bit to see what's the first thing to tackle...
[02:18] <rubem> thank you :)
[02:18] <gnomefreak> sabmann, no s
[02:18] <buildg8s> I am new with ubuntu
[02:19] <linuxgeek2> welcome buildg8s
[02:19] <korhojoa> crap
[02:19] <rubem> anyone know a good IDE for C\C++?
[02:19] <korhojoa> sda1 mounted my sata drive
[02:19] <sabmann> rubem, try eclipse
[02:19] <irvin> rubem: gedit
[02:19] <gnomefreak> rubem, anjuta is good for both
[02:19] <buildg8s> and I want to use it longer
[02:19] <sabmann> it's mainly for java but also customisable for c
[02:20] <rubem> I use Visual C++ (don't kill me :) ) ...
[02:20] <sabmann> lol
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> vi :P
[02:20] <irvin> rubem: anjuta would be perfect
[02:20] <buildg8s> but my problem is when I boot with ubuntu it takes several minutes
[02:20] <rubem> irvin I'll try
[02:20] <gnomefreak> i find anjuta easier to use than eclipse but eclipse is a great editor
[02:20] <buildg8s> what will I do to speed up loading
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> find whats taking so long is a start.
[02:21] <sabmann> can i use anjuta for java programming?
[02:21] <cion> hey how can i play wmv videos?
[02:21] <irvin> sabmann: you can try eclipse
[02:21] <rubem> sabmann: use Eclipse :P
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> disable that splash/logo and see what services are starting up and what one is taking so much time.
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sabmann,  yes im pretty sure you can but eclipse for java is better
[02:21] <sabmann> lol i've eclipse already but it's laggy as hell on my duron 1600 mhz:(
[02:22] <gnomefreak> sabmann,  let me look to see if you can
[02:22] <rubem> sabmann, oh yeah, eclipse in linux is preaty slow :(
[02:22] <sabmann> ?
[02:23] <sabmann> tried jedit, but that sucked
[02:23] <ioboss> hi
[02:23] <cion> hey how can i play wmv videos?
[02:23] <progbliss> buildg8s: That's it? Normal, but you can remove extra stuff. I wouldn't try anything just yet, but if you really want to, see where you can remove stuff. I'd read the Gentoo documentation; Gentoo is very customizable. Bear in mind that not all progs in Gentoo are available in Ubunyu. and lastly, do not switch to gentoo. you will hate yourself later.
[02:23] <gnomefreak> sampan, yes you can use anjuta to write in java
[02:23] <ioboss> where i can find 2.6.12-10-k7 kernel source?
[02:23] <j813> am downloading a 3d game it's a .run file, how do I install it? :)
[02:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cion about repeat
[02:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cion about w32codecs
[02:23] <rubem> sabmann, dispite netbeans is horrific, ir runs very well in linux
[02:23] <rubem> ir == it
[02:23] <nalioth> ioboss: open synaptic and search, or packages.ubuntu.com
[02:23] <sabmann> eclipse on *Burp*WINXP*Burp* is running smoothly for me
[02:23] <buildg8s> so what would you recommend to satisfy my needs
[02:24] <gnomefreak> netbeans blows :(
[02:24] <progbliss> buildg8s:  don't ask me. I'll only kill your system 5 times
[02:24] <rubem> sabmann, sorry, english is not my native language, what is smoothly?
[02:24] <rubem> gnomefreak do you use Java 1.5?
[02:24] <buildg8s> lol
[02:24] <sabmann> rubem, it's running without lag... english isn't also my native lang
[02:24] <nalioth> rubem: smoothly is to run without errors
[02:24] <gnomefreak> rubem, 1.4
[02:25] <buildg8s> I thought you give up as I did a while ago
[02:25] <irvin> anyone tried openlaszlo?
[02:25] <maxx_730> Hey
[02:25] <gnomefreak> buildg8s,  system boot faster lose X
[02:25] <rubem> gnomefreak change do 1.5, you'll see the diference
[02:25] <buildg8s> gnomefreak: what is is
[02:25] <buildg8s> what is it
[02:25] <maxx_730> Anyone know how to get the standard ubuntu fonts set again after installing and removing kubuntu-desktop?
[02:25] <maxx_730> These fonts look fugly
[02:25] <rubem> sabmann nalioth living and learning :)
[02:26] <sabmann> lol
[02:26] <gnomefreak> X=grafical desktop
[02:26] <rubem> irvin: i prefer ajax
[02:26] <Zugwrack> brenner: Thats what it is all about no? ;-O)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> rubem, i got java the easy way ;)
[02:26] <rubem> irvin forget!!!!!!
[02:26] <buildg8s> I dont know what your talking about
[02:27] <sabmann> gnomefreak, there's a wiki about getting java 1.5 it's easy!
[02:27] <brenner> Zugwrack: apparently :)
[02:27] <Zugwrack> I am trying to run sudo apt-get install <package_name.deb> is this not how to install a .deb package?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> X= base for gnome, kde,xfce and so on
[02:27] <maxx_730> dpkg -i <name of package>
[02:27] <irvin> gnomefreak: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:27] <Zugwrack> maxx: thanks
[02:27] <maxx_730> to install a .deb package
[02:27] <sabmann> irvin, you're right
[02:27] <progbliss> buildg8s: Lose X, you get command line
[02:27] <gnomefreak> sabmann,  is it upgradale or would i have to lose 1.4 and do a full 1.5?
[02:27] <maxx_730> and remember it needs to be done as root
[02:27] <buildg8s> thanks I will try
[02:28] <[matrim] > hey peeps, I need a hand with switchibng my locale settings
[02:28] <Akonkwa> When I start my computer , gnome won't start, neither does X. Instead of the usual gui login screen, I get a terminal-like prompt. I went in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and found some errors. Can anyone help?
[02:28] <Arnald> How do I install bison?
[02:28] <wezzer> what kind of errors?
[02:28] <maxx_730> Yeah?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Arnald, use synaptic
[02:28] <j813> installing a 3d game it's a .run file, how do I it? :)
[02:28] <ioboss> thnx nalioth
[02:28] <Arnald> hmm, is that the only way?
[02:28] <sabmann> gnomefreak, you can lose 1.4 but I think i've got em both installed.. wait a sec i'll check
[02:28] <Zugwrack> Man I hate it when that happens...no wonder...trying to install a i386 package under macintosh..anyone know if realplayer has a mac .deb file to get it installed?
[02:28] <wezzer> j813: sh ./file.run ?
[02:28] <Cryptid> From where can i download the setup of Java blackdown version ?
[02:28] <Akonkwa> Well, "fatal server error, could not open font 'fixed' "
[02:29] <irvin> j813: chmod +x <filename>.run
[02:29] <gnomefreak> sabmann,  ty
[02:29] <irvin> j813: sh <filename>.run
[02:29] <Arnald> gnomefreak: that's not a good answer for a server!
[02:29] <j813> ok I will try
[02:29] <j813> TY
[02:29] <Cryptid> msg ubotu Java
[02:29] <maxx_730> Zugwrack: You can always compile from source
[02:29] <Cryptid> !Java
[02:29] <Akonkwa> wezzer:  Well, "fatal server error, could not open font 'fixed' "
[02:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:29] <irvin> Arnald: sudo apt-cache search bison
[02:29] <Zugwrack> maxx: K...
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Arnald,  i didnt say anything about a server
[02:29] <Cryptid> !javadebs
[02:29] <ubotu> [javadebs]  Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:29] <wezzer> Akonkwa: umm, sorry, can't help you - did you install new fonts lately?
[02:30] <wezzer> Akonkwa: did x server work properly earlier?
[02:30] <maxx_730> Zugwrack: Thats the problem of using anything non x86; usually no precompiled packages
[02:30] <rubem> anyone know how to put amsn in tray?
[02:30] <sabmann> gnomefreak, I think you can lose 1.4, but no garranty
[02:30] <Akonkwa> wezzer: Yes it did. then I installed kino, and after that I rebooterd and it wouldn't work
[02:30] <ioboss> why there isn't kernel 2.6.12-10-k7
[02:30] <ioboss>  anywhere????????? :(
[02:30] <Arnald> gnomefreak: good job I'm not trying to install on a server then ;)
[02:30] <wezzer> Akonkwa: very strange, I have no idea what might be wrong
[02:31] <wezzer> Akonkwa: I don't if it helps, but try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <maxx_730> But noone knows how to get the standard ubuntu fonts after installing and removing kubuntu-desktop?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ty sabmann  ill look into it when i wake up
[02:31] <Arnald> gnomefreak: sorry, false alarm, my package lists were screwed!
[02:32] <Thirsteh> Guys, I have an AMD64 Athlon CPU, would the 686 or K7?
[02:32] <Thirsteh> kernel be preferred*
[02:32] <[matrim] > how do I set a different locale?
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> k7 IMO, but i hear 686 recomended a lot
[02:32] <MrApex> hi all
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> for a 32 bit distro - ya want the 686   i belive.
[02:32] <sascha_> hello?
[02:32] <sabmann> matrim, maybe administration>language selector
[02:32] <maxx_730> Tirstesh: x86_64 no?
[02:32] <xophEr> Thirsteh, why not k8?
[02:32] <nalioth> Thirsteh: either one will work
[02:32] <ioboss> somebody have 2.6.12-10-k7
[02:32] <ioboss>  kernel version????
[02:33] <MrApex> i need to know something abnout my CPUinfo
[02:33] <xukun> hi all if I try to do /etc/init.d/saslauthd start then I get "
[02:33] <xukun> Starting SASL Authentication Daemon: mkdir: cannot create directory `': No such file or directory
[02:33] <xukun> " any idea's?
[02:33] <maxx_730> If you want to find out what architecture you're using, type 'arch' in the console
[02:33] <MrApex> Is this a nortwood or a prescott processor?
[02:33] <nalioth> ioboss: what are you asking? the source is available via apt-get or direct download from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <MrApex> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[02:33] <MrApex> cpu family      : 15
[02:33] <MrApex> model           : 3
[02:33] <MrApex> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
[02:33] <maxx_730> Just type "arch"
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> MrApex: Prescot i expect
[02:33] <ioboss> nalioth, no, that version no.. :( how i acan do?
[02:34] <nalioth> MrApex: please read and heed the /topic
[02:34] <[matrim] > sabmann, i LACK THAT SELECTION, THATS A PROBLEM..
[02:34] <gnomefreak> [matrim] ,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:34] <MrApex> but SSE3 isnt listed
[02:34] <rubem> anyone know how i optimize gcc compilation in ubuntu?
[02:34] <MrApex>  fxsr sse sse2 ss ht
[02:34] <j813> nice DM with Climate & Weather data on top right > http://www.giannaros.org/public/screen1.jpg     <how is it done? :)
[02:34] <MrApex> is there an app like cpuid for linux
[02:35] <j813> how about CPU temps
[02:35] <Sonderblade> is there no package for adom?
[02:35] <Chousuke> Sonderblade: yes. :P
[02:36] <Sonderblade> Chousuke: where? I can't find it
[02:36] <nalioth> ioboss: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-source-2.6.12
[02:36] <Chousuke> Sonderblade: I meant there is none :P
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> j813,  thats not a "DM" login screen. They are using one of the many "desklet" type tools for the weather report.
[02:37] <Sonderblade> how annoying
[02:37] <Chousuke> Sonderblade: TB doesn't allow it :/
[02:37] <sabmann> j813, google for superkaramba.. it allows you putting desklets on your desktop
[02:37] <Chousuke> someone once created a package, but he was not allowed to distribute it.
[02:37] <nalioth> MrApex: in a terminal "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[02:37] <j813> OK TY guys
[02:37] <irvin> j813: or better yet sudo apt-cache search superkaramba
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> http://linux.softpedia.com/progSearch/SuperKaramba
[02:38] <nalioth> i hate when folks ask and run
[02:38] <Chousuke> Sonderblade: anyway, just download the tar.gz. it does work just fine.
[02:38] <Sonderblade> Chousuke: what? Thats moronic!
[02:38] <j813> yup that wud be easier :)
[02:38] <brenner> nalioth: you like to cuddle after? :)
[02:38] <Chousuke> Sonderblade: I'm not sure if he asked TB for permission.
[02:38] <Chousuke> but by default the licence prohibits repackaging
[02:38] <nalioth> brenner: are you off your ritalin?
[02:38] <chrisx1> what p2p programs are there for ubuntu
[02:38] <Sonderblade> Chousuke: gentoo has an adoom ebuild
[02:38] <ioboss> nalioth, ok, sorry, it's right..
[02:38] <ioboss> thanx
[02:38] <Chousuke> Sonderblade: it doesn't distribute ADOM
[02:39] <Chousuke> only a script to download it.
[02:39] <maxx_730> chrisx1: LimeWire is my favorite p2p app
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  thers a p2p 'wiki' page at the  wiki.ubuntu.com site that compares them all.
[02:39] <brenner> nalioth: nope
[02:39] <Sonderblade> Chousuke: i see, can't apt-get do the same thing?
[02:39] <Chousuke> It can, in a way.
[02:39] <maxx_730> chrisx: Some others too, also in the gnome-app-install app
[02:39] <buildg8s> hello
[02:39] <Chousuke> but someone would have to create an installer package.
[02:39] <Chousuke> and no-one has done that yet.
[02:40] <redeeman> anyone that knows if i can make sed change the first character in a file?
[02:40] <buildg8s> my video card is windows compatible how will I use it in ubuntu
[02:40] <Ophiocus> is there anyway to install ubuntu on a machine via a lan?
[02:40] <buildg8s> is my motherboard also possible to ubuntu compatibility
[02:40] <ookami> where do i find the httpd.conf for apache2 in ubuntu?
[02:40] <j813> buildg8s: wat's your card?
[02:40] <chrisx1> maxx_730, how do i install it cos it needs java, n i always had trouble installing java
[02:41] <buildg8s> ATI radeon
[02:41] <Chousuke> Crystal ball not working ;P
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Ophiocus,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=net+install&titlesearch=Titles
[02:41] <maxx_730> chrisx1: You tried the "install java" section in the ubuntu starter guide?
[02:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chrisx1 about javadebs
[02:41] <j813> buildg8s: sorry dont know I only hav NVidia
[02:41] <chrisx1> ty
[02:42] <ookami> Anyone have any idea where do i find the httpd.conf for apache2 in ubuntu?
[02:42] <buildg8s> how about my motherboard
[02:42] <buildg8s> I am using asrock board is it compatible with linux
[02:42] <Chousuke> Should be.,
[02:42] <buildg8s> ubuntu
[02:42] <liable> buildg8s: guess ggole is your friend there..
[02:42] <Zugwrack> Need some help here...this is the error: configure: error: *** GPLFlash requires libjpeg. I checked and synaptic shows libjpeg62..does it need the dev package?
[02:43] <buildg8s> what do you mean
[02:43] <Sonderblade> Zugwrack: yes
[02:43] <Chousuke> Zugwrack: yes.
[02:43] <Chousuke> :P
[02:43] <rubem> iv
[02:43] <maxx_730> buildg8s: Only if compiling from source
[02:43] <Zugwrack> Sonderblad, Chousuke: Ok then thanks...
[02:43] <Jemt> Greetings. I have an odd problem with my repositories. I haft to perform a 'apt-get update' operation each time I start my computer - otherwise the repositories are corrupted. Why is that ?
[02:43] <rubem> irvin, sorry, which package I have do download to use gcc?
[02:44] <Chousuke> gcc? :P
[02:44] <irvin> build-essential
[02:44] <liable> !b-e
[02:44] <ubotu> liable: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:44] <liable> meh
[02:44] <Chousuke> that works too :)
[02:44] <rubem> thank you
[02:44] <gnomefreak> Zugwrack,  if you use sudo apt-get install <packagename> it will tell you what you need with it
[02:44] <buildg8s> what will I do
[02:44] <Toma-> anyone in here use muse?
[02:44] <buildg8s> do I need to install something
[02:45] <mjk64> Folks, is this okay? The Ubuntu 5.10 installer (booted with "expert") claims "There was a problem installing the selected software" (base s/w has already been installed), and on tty4, I can read: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ny6Y8F41.html
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  i think youve totally lost everyone now. :P
[02:45] <buildg8s> why
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  clarify and restate your problem. May help.
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  i think nalioth  was right hes just spamming the room
[02:46] <Zugwrack> gnomefreak: I am PPC and I can't install flash..I have to compile for alternative solution..thanks though...
[02:46] <irvin> buildg8s: i agree. you completely lost me
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  i was thinking i wasent paying attention. :P but guess not. LOL>
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Zugwrack,  yw sorry bout that
[02:46] <buildg8s> I am using an asrock motherboard and my computer runs slowly
[02:46] <nalioth> Zugwrack: the best you are gonna be able to do is build gplflash from cvs
[02:46] <jabak_> can any one help me how to install my sound card driver if it wasnt auto detected ( running ubuntu 5.04 )
[02:46] <newbiee> can anyone help me plz, i cant install ubuntu :(
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  define "slowly"
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  define "slowly"  and clarify what parts are slow.
[02:47] <Zugwrack> Next small glitch...error is: cannot find X11 development files I am checking and see some devs installed...can anyone tell me which specific dev package to install?
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zugwrack about xincludes
[02:47] <Zugwrack> nalioth: I am following the restricted howto?
[02:47] <brenner> newbiee: need more info
[02:47] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Again thanks
[02:47] <buildg8s> when I booted my computer it takes several minutes to load up
[02:47] <nalioth> Zugwrack: not sure what is on it, i believe it goes into gplflash from cvs
[02:47] <gnomefreak> lol Dr_Willis the question about 5 mins ago was will his motherboard work with ubuntu now its running slow? ubuntu install takes a little longer than 5 minutes
[02:47] <nalioth> buildg8s: it takes several minutes for ALL of our computers to boot.
[02:47] <J_Element> can any one help me how to install my sound card driver if it wasnt auto detected ( running ubuntu 5.04 ) ?
[02:48] <Jemt> Greetings. I have an odd problem with my repositories. I haft to perform a 'apt-get update' operation each time I start my computer - otherwise the repositories are corrupted. Why is that ?
[02:48] <buildg8s> yes I know
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  you should enable the verbose message screens on boot up. and WATCH what it says and see what part is so slow.  it could be waiting for some networking thing or other bit.
[02:48] <chrisx1> how do i install .deb?
[02:48] <pepsi> what the heck is "the open cd"?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  so you are saying its "slow to boot up" not "running slow" once booted.
[02:48] <nalioth> chrisx1: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:48] <newbiee> during installation, hotplug subsystem fails and the system freezes
[02:48] <chrisx1> oo
[02:48] <chrisx1> ty
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> pepsi,  a MUST get download to pass out to your windows friends
[02:48] <buildg8s> but is it normal that when I click something it responds slowly?
[02:48] <nalioth> pepsi: a cd you hand your friends to show them the joys of open source software
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> pepsi,  a collection of GPL tools for windows.
[02:49] <pepsi> hrm
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> buildg8s,  NOW you are describing somthing different. :P what is your processor and chipset.
[02:49] <J_Element> can any one help me how to install my sound card driver if it wasnt auto detected ( running ubuntu 5.04 ) ?
[02:49] <nalioth> pepsi: similar to and including an ubuntu liveCD, but with win32 software on it for the windoes users
[02:49] <buildg8s> P4
[02:49] <chrisx1> how can i install limewire?
[02:49] <pepsi> i know the dvd has like firefox and oo.o on it
[02:49] <liable> !b-e
[02:49] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[02:49] <pepsi> just that stuff?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> The OpenCD is not a 'disrto' last i looked. :P just a bunck of GPL tools and a little installer frontend.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> pepsi the open cd has open office and other packages that are cross platform so you can give to your freinds and see how much better free is that M$
[02:50] <buildg8s> P4 S478 1.8 Ghz
[02:50] <pepsi> i see
[02:50] <nalioth> chrisx1: you can install gtk-gnutella.  it is functionally equal to limewire w/o the java bloat
[02:50] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: today is is an ubuntu liveCD and win32 apps
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> limewire is discussed in the p2p wiki.
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> nalioth,  wowsers. :P they must of really squeezed ouyt some space. or they dumped some stuff.
[02:51] <newbiee> can anyone help me plz, i cant install ubuntu :(...during installation, hotplug subsystem fails and the system freezes
[02:51] <bozel> i can hear music with xmms, but i dont hear anything with gxine
[02:51] <bozel> why_?
[02:51] <buildg8s> download another
[02:51] <buildg8s> ISO
[02:51] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Hmmm..it was only missing one of the 3 xincludes..it still errors out on the same thing as pasted previously..anyone help here...
[02:51] <nalioth> Zugwrack: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you there
[02:51] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Ok
[02:53] <brenner> newbiee: it's possible you might have a bad CD
[02:53] <pepsi> so is the open cd also a livecd or what? why have 2 different things?
[02:54] <newbiee> (its a live cd)i have used it on another pc and works fine
[02:54] <gnomefreak> pepsi: the open cd doesnt have ubuntu on it it has packages thats it'
[02:54] <newbiee> is it possible some services cant start?
[02:54] <nalioth> pepsi: it is a livecd and an installer for win32 F/OSS apps
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  yea - checking on "The Open CD" page now - The Live CD component is now based on Ubuntu 5.10 (the Breezy Badger).
[02:55] <nalioth> pepsi: it is a liveCD so folks can see that linux "aint so bad"
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  but it dosent really mention WHAT that does/means...
[02:55] <pepsi> im just curious why it isnt just part of the normal livecd
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> the open cd page dosent seem to have their docs updated to mention a 'live cd feature'
[02:55] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  oh ok sorry  i thought the live cd for ubuntu would have been a different download
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  if it is -- its not shown on their downloads page.. so they got ME all confused.
[02:56] <pepsi> weird
[02:56] <gnomefreak> lol Dr_Willis
[02:56] <newbiee> hotplug includes services for activating usb, pcmcia etc??
[02:56] <pepsi> i guess ill download it just to see wtf it is
[02:56] <gnomefreak> newbiee,  did you download and burn the cd yourself?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> last i used the open cd - they just had a lot of windows tools on it.  wondering if they have a qemu or some other "run linux under windows" feature now.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  17% done here.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:57] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:57] <newbiee> nope got it from my school
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  http://www.theopencd.org/index.php?option=com_static&staticfile=screenshots-v3.0.html&Itemid=47
[02:57] <pepsi> its a 700MB iso.. pretty big for just a bunch of open source windows apps
[02:58] <newbiee> it works fine in my desktop
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> pepsi,  last i used it (a few mo ago) they had it filled. :P
[02:58] <newbiee> cant install it in my laptop
[02:58] <pepsi> interesting
[02:58] <MikeG> Considering trying Ubuntu. FC4 user now. Is there software pacakages list available?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  it looks almost like a live cd that doesnt need to be booted
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> pepsi,  but it seems they cleaned out some of the older stuff.
[02:58] <LinuxN00bie> /etc/subdoers mode is 0666, should be 0440, so guys i can't sudo, how to fix this??
[02:59] <gnomefreak> MikeG,  packages.ubuntu.com i think is the link
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  i think its BOTH. :P  boot it = live cd.. dont boot = show windows insaller/front end.
[02:59] <brenner> MikeG: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <pepsi> if you didnt set a root password you gotta use single user mode
[02:59] <LinuxN00bie> there's a sendmail: fatal: /etc/mailname: unable to open: file has 2 hard links
[02:59] <MikeG> Thanks gnomefreak
[02:59] <brenner> MikeG: theres a text file available (in tar.gz format too to boot)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Live CD's are such a handy tool. One of those "cool things" that is just sort of advancing at a good pace. and sneaking up on people. :P
[03:00] <wouter> does anyone know how I can get the IPX network protocol?
[03:00] <newbiee> is there a "faisafe" boot option???????
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> constantly amazing windows users with what a 'live cd' can do.
[03:01] <Red-Sox> when I logged in it said it was kubuntu!
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  im assuming you installed kubuntu-desktop on you ubuntu
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  if you install the Kubuntu-desktop packages it changes the splash screen and some things I belive.
[03:02] <pepsi> what is a Drake?
[03:02] <Red-Sox> iv had it installed for a while but that is the first time its ever done it
[03:02] <gnomefreak> drake= development
[03:02] <pepsi> right
[03:02] <mjk64> Dr_Willis: So you just "accidentally" forget an Ubuntu CD labelled "Windows VISTA" near your victim's computer and wait for the first Linux support call from your victim? ;-)
[03:03] <pepsi> but what kind of animal is it
[03:03] <Red-Sox> pepsi: 5.04
[03:03] <brenner> newbiee: iirc, yes. Dr_Willis, can you confirm? failsafe boot for livecd?
[03:03] <wouter> anyone knows anything about IPX support in ubuntu?
[03:03] <LinuxN00bie> jk64 Dr_Willis: So you just "accidentally" forget an Ubuntu CD labelled "Windows VISTA" near your victim's computer and wait for the first Linux support call from your victim? ;-)
[03:03] <LinuxN00bie> pepsi but what kind of animal is it
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dapper drake isnt an animal
[03:03] <Red-Sox> pepsi: a bat?
[03:03] <nalioth> pepsi: a drake is a male duck
[03:03] <LinuxN00bie> wtf
[03:03] <Red-Sox> oh
[03:03] <wezzer> dragon!
[03:03] <Red-Sox> of coaese nalioth knows.
[03:03] <LinuxN00bie> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[03:03] <LinuxN00bie> sendmail: fatal: /etc/mailname: unable to open: file has 2 hard links
[03:03] <gnomefreak> nalioth,  it is?
[03:03] <arnducky> what, what?
[03:03] <irvin> drake is a dragon!
[03:03] <newbiee> is there a boot paramater , during live cd installation, so as to start with minimum hardware detection
[03:03] <irvin> :-)
[03:03] <mjk64> LinuxN00bie: :-) (don't need to quote the whole thing, though =)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> LinuxN00bie,  :P ya got to put a big "Official Use Only" label on it also.
[03:04] <LinuxN00bie> my mouse sux
[03:04] <gnomefreak> my grandmother knew what drake was :(
[03:04] <mjk64> LinuxN00bie: Err wait ... weren't you the one who claimed he'd only see "jk64" instead of my full nickname "mjk64"?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> "DrunkenDrake"
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> "WastedWombat"
[03:04] <LinuxN00bie> mjk64, nope
[03:04] <arnducky> Freaky Frog!!!
[03:04] <arnducky> =oD
[03:04] <mjk64> LinuxN00bie: okay, so your "jk64" a few lines ago was just an accident, good. =)
[03:05] <tck> www.sonysuit.com
[03:05] <LinuxN00bie> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[03:05] <LinuxN00bie> sendmail: fatal: /etc/mailname: unable to open: file has 2 hard links
[03:05] <LinuxN00bie>  anybody wha'ts this???
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> arnducky,  thats not the same as being drunk. :P
[03:05] <tck> shit, wrong window
[03:05] <arnducky> 6.10 release
[03:05] <LinuxN00bie> V-@-@-V
[03:05] <jitsumi> I fucking LOVE ubuntu!!
[03:05] <jitsumi> yeah!
[03:06] <arnducky> 7.04 -- Grumpy Groundhog, finally
[03:06] <pepsi> yeah what happened to grumpy?
[03:06] <LinuxN00bie> groundhog is out?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> i think ubuntu is the only distro that makes sense out of the version numbers
[03:06] <arnducky> D-E-F-G
[03:06] <newbiee> can anyone help me plz, i cant install ubuntu :(...during installation, hotplug subsystem fails and the system freezes
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  Huh?
[03:06] <linuxboy> arnducky: how do you know 7.04 will be grumpy?
[03:06] <LinuxN00bie> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[03:06] <LinuxN00bie> sendmail: fatal: /etc/mailname: unable to open: file has 2 hard links
[03:06] <LinuxN00bie>  can anybody PLEASE help me deal with this?
[03:06] <nalioth> jitsumi: please respect us
[03:06] <gnomefreak> 5.04 = 2005 april
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  they just seem to tack on a # that no one ever uses at the end. :P
[03:07] <gnomefreak> 5.10 = 2005 - oct
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  why not just put a real DATE on the end then. :P
[03:07] <irvin> is anyone running ubuntu on a mac laptop?
[03:07] <pepsi> irvin, surely _somebody_ is ;)
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. Dr
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis,  i dont know this was something i relized while laying in bed
[03:07] <jitsumi> nalioth: sorry, but I really do love ubuntu. I just installed photoshop using wine, and it workes like a charm. And I am a very happy man! :)
[03:07] <nalioth> irvin: lots of us, just ask your question
[03:07] <arnducky> guessing based on that South Africans dude's stated intention to loosely follow the letters of the alphabet (I don't have an y inside info if that's what you're asking)
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  Well at least it has a little logic to it. :P
[03:07] <mrverbos1> is it possible to downgrade from ubuntu to debian?
[03:07] <irvin> i better check LaptopTesting
[03:08] <arnducky> Mark whatsisface
[03:08] <nalioth> irvin: ask your question, i'm sure we can answer it
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  they should just make the version # the 'md5sum'  :P
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: sabdf
[03:08] <irvin> nalioth: on a G4? a friend is bringing his laptop and i'm thinking of installing it with ubuntu
[03:08] <mrverbos1> 
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: shuttleworth
[03:09] <gnomefreak> mrverbos1, why would you want to?
[03:09] <arnducky> that's the ANSI keyboard anagram I meant
[03:09] <arnducky> yeppers
[03:09] <nalioth> irvin: it works great on all g4 macs except for the broadcom wireless chip
[03:09] <ioboss> what is loki games site?
[03:09] <nalioth> irvin: everything works great ootb, save the broadcom silicon
[03:09] <newbiee> can anyone explain what "hotplug subsystem" exactly is??
[03:09] <mrverbos1> gnomefreak: because many important packages i need are either not available or broken
[03:09] <gnomefreak> newbiee,  you answered that your self a while back
[03:10] <irvin> nalioth: it would be my first time to lay hands on a mac :-) i'm really excited!
[03:11] <gnomefreak> mrverbos1, if im not mistaken ubuntu has most if not all the sarge packages and more
[03:11] <nalioth> irvin: visit this page and see your options for wireless dongle. i use a zonet zew2501 with no problems with my G4 ibook
[03:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell irvin about wireless
[03:11] <ke> ubotu: tell ke about wireless
[03:11] <irvin> thanks nalioth!
[03:11] <gnomefreak> mrverbos1,  look at packages.ubuntu.com for a list of ubuntu packages
[03:12] <gnomefreak> brb smoke time
[03:12] <newbiee> is there a way NOT to start hotplug subsystem during installation (..with a boot parameter)??
[03:13] <wolfjb> is there anyway to get the kernel-source for the current (ie 2.6.12-10) binary kernel? I can only seem to find 2.6.11
[03:13] <Silencer> I have a problem with setting up squid and route on ubuntu
[03:13] <Silencer> localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[03:13] <Silencer> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
[03:13] <Silencer> default         192.168.1.5     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[03:13] <Silencer> this is mine routing tables and
[03:13] <wezzer> paste to pastebin please
[03:13] <Silencer> when I put in squid tcp_outgoing_address 10.0.0.1
[03:13] <Silencer> he can
[03:14] <Silencer> he can't seem to find 10.0.0.1 ip address
[03:14] <nalioth> Silencer: please dont paste in here, read the /topic
[03:14] <Silencer> because the default gw is 192.168.1.5
[03:14] <Silencer> o
[03:14] <Silencer> :)
[03:14] <Silencer> sorry
[03:14] <newbiee> in other live cd
[03:15] <newbiee> there is a failsafe option
[03:15] <newbiee> why ubunty doesnt have a similar boot parameter ??
[03:15] <sexcopter8000m> I've just installed a new set of icons, and the speaker icon for the volume control has disappeard. Any ideas how I can restore the old icon for the volume control?
[03:15] <wolfjb> is there anyway to get the kernel-source for the current (ie 2.6.12-10) binary kernel? I can only seem to find 2.6.11
[03:16] <gnomefreak> newbiee, i think you have a bad cd would ask for a new one if given from instructor
[03:16] <Jemt> I have an odd problem with my repositories. I haft to perform a 'apt-get update' operation each time I start my computer - otherwise the repositories are corrupted. Why is that ?
[03:16] <lxuser> hi @ all
[03:16] <nalioth> wolfjb: search packages.ubuntu.com for 2.6.12
[03:17] <irvin> Jemt: we usually update first before anything else
[03:17] <newbiee> thnks i will try that but it would be nice a boot option with min h/w detection
[03:17] <J_Element> crimsun,
[03:18] <gnomefreak> fine ubotu be that way :(
[03:18] <J_Element> can u  help me how to install my sound card driver if it wasnt auto detected ( running ubuntu 5.04 ) ?
[03:18] <Jemt> irvin: ?? That dosn't solve my problem, does it ? :)
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> J_Element,  5.10 proberly has better hardware detection and may set it up better.
[03:18] <Jemt> irvin: Obviously something is not working the way it should
[03:19] <irvin> Jemt: then clean your your repo
[03:19] <J_Element> Dr_Willis, can i upgrade to 5.10 ! or do i have to dl it ?
[03:19] <dmoyne> hello ! : who knows QEmu with DOS ?
[03:19] <irvin> Jemt: sudo apt-get clean?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell J_Element  about upgrade
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> J_Element,  i reccomend backing up your /home if it has imporntant stuff and doing a clean install.
[03:20] <Jemt> irvin: Thanks, I'll try that :)
[03:20] <sabmann> J_Element, why not first try the live cd?
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> dmoyne,  i tend to use 'dosbox' to run dos programs.
[03:20] <irvin> Jemt: man apt-get
[03:20] <J_Element> hrm
[03:20] <J_Element> k
[03:20] <irvin> wb Riddell
[03:20] <mustermann> beginner question - how to add things in the .wine direcftory to the gnome menu?  smeg doesn't show it, and i see no option to turn "hidden" on.
[03:20] <J_Element> but umm when i did the " lspci" command
[03:20] <J_Element> i got this " 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) "
[03:21] <dmoyne>  Dr_Willis : so far I use DosEmu perfect in 32 bit but I want to migrate to 64 bits
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> dmoyne,  no clue there then. I tried 64bit... and gave up on it for now.
[03:21] <chiehchen> mustermann: turn on hidden files by pressing Ctrl-H using file manager
[03:21] <chiehchen> mustermann: or command line   ls -al
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> High Definition Audio  :)  a cheap built in sound chipset is "High Def" :P
[03:21] <dmoyne>  Dr_Willis : thanks
[03:22] <chiehchen> mustermann: for wine apps, they are at ~/bin folder...  you can short cut that folder into your panel.
[03:23] <mustermann> ctrl-h doesn't work in smeg.  how would i add the shortcut to gnome via cli or nautilus?
[03:23] <chiehchen> mustermann: no easy way to get that into the menu with gnome2 since its not using folder structure
[03:23] <chiehchen> mustermann:  don't use smeg... use file manager...
[03:24] <strokey> last night i downloaded gcc-3.4 so i could compile something from http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/devel/gcc-3.4, the guy said download all the ones with the red circle next to them and the actual package
[03:24] <strokey> i have them all in a folder, now what? ;o
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> strokey, what you want to compile ??
[03:25] <nalioth> gnomefreak: its called alacarte nowadays
[03:26] <rubem> help!! firefox gone crazy!!
[03:26] <mustermann> my wine apps are in /home/user/.wine/....
[03:26] <rubem> i can't see the characters!
[03:26] <chrisx1> is there gaim 1.5.0 for debian/ubuntu
[03:26] <nalioth> rubem: use galeon, epiphany or kazehakase
[03:26] <strokey> wickedpuppy: a zd2112 wireless USB driver
[03:26] <rubem> nalioth how can i fix it?
[03:26] <nalioth> rubem: open a terminal and type "sudo install --reinstall mozilla-firefox"
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> strokey, have you installed gcc-3.4 ?
[03:27] <rubem> nalioth:  install: unrecognized option `--reinstall
[03:27] <strokey> wickedpuppy: no , but i downloaded the package(s) from http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/devel/gcc-3.4
[03:28] <strokey> im on windows, how would i be able to transfer it to linux?
[03:28] <strokey> and then be able to install the .deb's
[03:28] <nalioth> crap. rubem my bad, i'm tired. "sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox"
[03:28] <rubem> nalioth... forget, I understud!
[03:29] <rubem> nalioth: thank you :)
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> strokey, eh ah ... now you are on windows ? i am confused ...
[03:29] <rubem> does GD library comes with ubuntu php?
[03:29] <strokey> wickedpuppy
[03:29] <mustermann> thanks chiechen.
[03:29] <strokey> yes, i'm on windows, im dual booting because i cant get on the internet with linx
[03:30] <strokey> useally i try for a few minutes, give up and uninstall, but this time im determind
[03:30] <J_Element> Dr_Willis,if im downloading the upgrades via synaptic package! how large is size of the download
[03:31] <gnomefreak> is ther a way to get "pictures" in your terminal as background not meaning like mine just to sup up termnals?
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> strokey, ok ... now you got to move those .deb to linux ... you can do it in two ways .. you can mount ya windows drive in linux and copy and install or you can put them in usb thumbdrive and open them in linux and install
[03:32] <strokey> well i know how i can mount my windows drive
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> btw you need 3.4 to compile ? can't compile with 4.0 ?
[03:32] <strokey> ive tried, i get lots of errors
[03:32] <strokey> and one guy said i need 3.4
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> strokey, alright then there is no harm trying
[03:32] <strokey> so how would i install all
[03:32] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy,  im sure 4.0 works but i found that using 3.4 is better only cause im used to it so i stuck with it
[03:32] <jsz> hi, I just install Ubuntu in server mode and then installed ipmasq so it shares my net connection, does it serve as a firewall also or do I need to download a firewall?
[03:32] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: some things (like vmware) want the gcc the kernel was compiled with
[03:33] <strokey> theres 6 files
[03:33] <sabmann> gnomefreak, u use gnome-terminal?
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> ah k ...
[03:33] <gnomefreak> i have a bunch of them :(
[03:33] <sabmann> right click on the background then edit current profile.. then look under the tab effects
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> strokey, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:34] <gnomefreak> sabmann,  ok ty i will try
[03:34] <ronaldo_> hello anyone
[03:34] <ronaldo_> i need help
[03:34] <strokey> so if i copy pasted the .deb onto my desktop
[03:34] <strokey> and did that it would install?
[03:34] <nalioth> strokey: yup
[03:35] <strokey> mkay
[03:35] <ronaldo_> hello ??
[03:35] <ronaldo_> anyone can help me ?
[03:35] <nalioth> ronaldo_: hello!
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ok i changed it to a pic that i had and restarted terminal and nothing but its still says to use that pic
[03:35] <nalioth> ronaldo_: only if you ask a questoin
[03:35] <chrisx1> just ask ppl will answer
[03:35] <ronaldo_> hi
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> ronaldo_, no ... if you don't tell us the problem
[03:36] <liable> HOLA
[03:36] <ronaldo_> i installed ubuntu
[03:36] <strokey> nalioth: <file>.deb ?
[03:36] <strokey> or can i do *.deb and it would install all? ;o
[03:36] <beerockxs> I'm having weird problems with fglrx, X locks up after a few seconds after I login, but I can still move the mouse cursor. No errors in the X logfile
[03:36] <sabmann> strange
[03:36] <ronaldo_> but , i didnt set a password to root user
[03:36] <pepsi> thats odd, why are there no breezy cd isos? only dvd
[03:36] <ronaldo_> i just created a user to me ...
[03:36] <chrisx1> ubot tell ronaldo_ about root
[03:36] <chrisx1> grr:P
[03:36] <ronaldo_> sorry ?
[03:36] <chrisx1> did it work?:$
[03:37] <chrisx1> !ubot tell ronaldo_ about root
[03:37] <ubotu> chrisx1: I haven't a clue
[03:37] <nalioth> strokey: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:37] <chrisx1> u suck
[03:37] <chrisx1> :P
[03:37] <sabmann> gnomefreak, look in man pages of your terminal
[03:37] <gnomefreak> is there a place i can get terminal backgrounds to use maybe its the picute
[03:37] <jsz> I hear that root is disabled in Ubuntu
[03:37] <nalioth> pepsi: there are plenty of cd isos, where are you looking?
[03:37] <sabmann> man aterm or man xterm
[03:37] <jsz> Use 'sudo'.
[03:37] <sabmann> man gnome-terminal
[03:37] <pepsi> nalioth, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/
[03:37] <strokey> nalioth: file.deb = file name?
[03:37] <nalioth> pepsi: try www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:38] <nalioth> strokey: yes, that's correct
[03:38] <strokey> ok
[03:38] <strokey> im gonna go try that
[03:38] <fec-> any good s/w that displays RSS on desktop ?
[03:38] <chrisx1> !ubot help
[03:38] <ubotu> chrisx1: Wish i knew
[03:38] <chrisx1> !ubot root
[03:38] <ubotu> chrisx1: I don't know
[03:38] <chrisx1> :@
[03:38] <gnomefreak> whats the command to show what terminal your using?
[03:38] <jsz> You need help?
[03:38] <ronaldo_> i'm from brazil , so sorry about poor english
[03:38] <chrisx1> some1 tell ronaldo_  about root please
[03:38] <nalioth> chrisx1: please dont bother ubotu
[03:39] <jsz> gnomefreak, who
[03:39] <chrisx1> :( was trying to help
[03:39] <nalioth> !tell ronaldo_ about root
[03:39] <gnomefreak> who tells you who is logged in not what terminal im using
[03:40] <chrisx1> how come im downloading updates really slowly from ubuntu?
[03:40] <pepsi> nalioth, ok.. i didnt think to look there i always just user cdimage.
[03:40] <jsz> yes it does
[03:40] <chrisx1> there like 40kB/s
[03:40] <jsz> it tells you the tty you are logged into
[03:40] <nalioth> pepsi: there should be cd isos at both places
[03:41] <gnomefreak> it tells me my name 2 times the time and date and a 0 and a pts/0
[03:41] <pepsi> nalioth, its still kind of odd that breezy cds are missing
[03:41] <pepsi> heh
[03:41] <jsz> I'm trying out this 'plan9' os
[03:41] <jsz> sounds interesting
[03:41] <whyameye> is there a pdf printer driver for ubuntu or for Linux in general?
[03:42] <ronaldo_> ubotu is a bot ?
[03:42] <ubotu> ronaldo_: I haven't a clue
[03:42] <gnomefreak> ronaldo_, yes
[03:42] <Jemt> whyameye: Don't know if there is a "printer" for it. But OpenOffice can do the trick
[03:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ronaldo_ about yourself
[03:42] <Seveas> whyameye, cups-pdf
[03:42] <whyameye> Jemt: the problem is I already have a PDF doc and I want to extract just a page out of it. I don't think OpenOffice will open a PDF
[03:42] <gnomefreak> lol @ bot dating :)
[03:43] <ronaldo_> ty !
[03:43] <ronaldo_> lol!
[03:43] <Seveas> Jemt, that's not what a pdf printer deos...
[03:43] <gnomefreak> ok what command can be used to identify what terminal im using sice who didnt tell me
[03:44] <whyameye> Seveas: how do I install cups-pdf?
[03:44] <gamerz> sudo apt-get install cups-pdf
[03:44] <adrian_> hola
[03:44] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ls -l /proc/self/fd/0
[03:44] <adrian_> hay alguien???
[03:44] <Seveas> !es
[03:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:45] <jason> i cant download packages from aptitude
[03:45] <ronaldo_> hey anyone ... how much a learn about linux , my love about this system grow up !!!
[03:45] <whyameye> gamerz: I did sudo apt-get... and it installed supposedly but I don't see the PDF printer listed...
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Seveas, is there a site for backgrounds for gnome terminal?
[03:46] <gamerz> its propably just a cups plugin
[03:46] <whyameye> gamerz: so how do I use a cups plugin?
[03:47] <gamerz> you have to set the printer with cupsd (print server)
[03:47] <Killoff> hola
[03:47] <Killoff> hay alguien?
[03:47] <nalioth> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:48] <qwerrttyy> hello, I want to sample my music remotely, stream it I think, versus downloading and then playing. How could I do that?
[03:48] <nalioth> qwerrttyy: icecast
[03:48] <strokey> meh
[03:49] <strokey> i think linux is too complicated for me
[03:49] <linuxgeek2> come on strokey
[03:49] <qwerrttyy> nalioth, one thing I want to do is also be able to select which song I want to listen to remotely
[03:49] <linuxgeek2> Never give up
[03:49] <gamerz> strokey its similar to all other os
[03:49] <strokey> linuxgeek2: ive spent ~24 hours
[03:50] <strokey> rebooting, trying new stuff
[03:50] <linuxgeek2> we are all here at ur service. Just give a shout and we are here at ur service to solve problems
[03:50] <strokey> to get my wireless stick to work, and it never works
[03:50] <linuxgeek2> did u read the how to?
[03:50] <strokey> ive read pretty much everything, and got some help from epople in here
[03:50] <strokey> right now im trying a new thing but i need to install gcc-3.4
[03:50] <strokey> and that doesent seem to like me -.-
[03:50] <nalioth> strokey: how do you get your internet?
[03:50] <linuxgeek2> did u install build-essential package
[03:51] <gamerz> apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:51] <spiderbatdad> help
[03:51] <strokey> gamerz: tried that
[03:51] <strokey> nalioth: router with 1 wireless
[03:51] <gamerz> and^
[03:51] <gamerz> what it does
[03:51] <nalioth> strokey: and linux works with the network?
[03:51] <strokey> says the package can not be found
[03:51] <strokey> nalioth: what do you mean?
[03:51] <nalioth> strokey: i'm trying to troubleshoot you
[03:51] <spiderbatdad> how do i change firefox to beta version
[03:52] <strokey> nalioth: ok , but i dient understand the last question
[03:52] <jayakumar2> has anyone been able to dvgrab from a usb connected sony dcr109e handycam with content on minidv tape?
[03:52] <jason> kde is fully installed how do i log in to it
[03:52] <oblib> has anyone used the package 'nvtv'?
[03:52] <nalioth> strokey: if the network works in linux, then "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4" should get you what you want, if it doesn't, your system needs to be looked at
[03:53] <nalioth> jason: at the login screen, click on 'sessions'
[03:53] <strokey> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:53] <strokey> says the package can not be found
[03:53] <linuxgeek2> apt-get update
[03:53] <gamerz> apt-get update before^
[03:53] <pepsi> so.. every time i boot, i have to do `setserial /dev/ttySxx baud_base 1152000 divisor 4` for 8 serial devices (2 4-port PCI cards).. ideally id like the ports to be configured automatically when it identifies the pci card or however it does that.. but for the time being, where do i put a script or which script do i edit to run those commands as root when the computer boots?
[03:53] <strokey> sudo apt-get update?
[03:53] <linuxgeek2> and then sudo ap-tget
[03:53] <linuxgeek2> yes strokey
[03:53] <nalioth> strokey: sounds like you have some diffeculties, can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list to
[03:54] <nalioth> !paste
[03:54] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:54] <linuxgeek2> !fool
[03:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, linuxgeek2
[03:54] <linuxgeek2> !wireless
[03:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:54] <strokey> nalioth: sadly no, i have to reboot to get into linux and then i cant paste to windows drive :/
[03:54] <gamerz> linuxgeek2 , with ubuntu 5.10 im not able to pass the instalation of base system, at the end of the install, it an error to install initrd-tools, ive read the forums try with no-acpi but it not work more
[03:55] <nalioth> strokey: i thought you said your network worked in linux
[03:55] <strokey> i said i dident understand that question
[03:55] <strokey> :E
[03:55] <linuxgeek2> oh gamerz I have no clue
[03:55] <oblib> pepsi, you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh if you want it in a script. Otherwise do system->pref->Sessions and put it in the startup programs section
[03:56] <gamerz> linuxgeek2, ive tried alot a distro, but its one of the firts time i read docs and didnt found :
[03:57] <gnomefreak> when using apt-cache is there something that goes between cache and what your looking for?
[03:57] <strokey> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211
[03:57] <strokey> thats my driver, you think its worth installing that?
[03:57] <linuxgeek2> oh gamerz did u try the ubuntu live cd did it work properly with it
[03:57] <gamerz> yep boot without problems
[03:57] <gamerz> im on it right now
[03:58] <spiderbatdad> cant seem to change versions of firefox on Breezy Badger
[03:58] <linuxgeek2> ok
[03:58] <linuxgeek2> gamerz, so u face problems when u do a hdd install
[03:58] <strokey> brb
[03:58] <gamerz> yes
[03:58] <linuxgeek2> ok.
[03:59] <gamerz> if i found nothing ill just reinstall deb base-sys and update it after on ubuntu
[03:59] <linuxgeek2> Can u post the exact err message u get
[03:59] <linuxgeek2> ?
[03:59] <pepsi> oblib, ok.. id prefer it not be user-specific so the script makes more sense to me.. is /etc/bootmish.sh the best place to put it? what are all the /etc/rcX.d/ scripts?
[03:59] <ronaldo_> ubotu rox !!!
[03:59] <ubotu> ronaldo_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:00] <ronaldo_> lol
[04:00] <linuxgeek2> haha ronaldo_
[04:00] <ronaldo_> linuxgeek2 , where you from ?
[04:00] <linuxgeek2> india
[04:00] <linuxgeek2> and u?
[04:01] <spiderbatdad> can anyone tell me about installing beta version of firefox?
[04:01] <linuxgeek2> huh?
[04:01] <ArKaNjO_BR> i'm from brasil
[04:01] <spiderbatdad> will in run on ubuntu?
[04:01] <linuxgeek2> cool
[04:01] <brenner> gee, that wasn't obvious :)
[04:01] <sabmann> spiderbatdad, there's a ubuntu wiki about
[04:01] <sabmann> howto install it
[04:02] <spiderbatdad> how do I access the wiki (neebie to ubuntu)
[04:02] <sabmann> w8 a sec
[04:02] <jason> !tell jason about kde
[04:03] <chrisx1> anyone have any ideas why gaim wont oad up?
[04:03] <RoNaLdO-BR> clear
[04:03] <Riddell> spiderbatdad: wiki.ubuntu.com, wiki.kubuntu.org, wiki.edubuntu.org
[04:03] <chrisx1> but still has a process
[04:03] <RoNaLdO-BR> hey linuxgeek
[04:03] <spiderbatdad> many thanks
[04:03] <Fikrann> Hello
[04:04] <sabmann> spiderbatdad, go here http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[04:04] <gamerz> "An error was returned
[04:04] <gamerz> while trying to install the initrd-tools package on target system
[04:04] <Fikrann> Is anyone here well versed with the (inner) ways of GNOME? I would like to add a mimetype to it's database...
[04:04] <RoNaLdO-BR> hey linuxgeek2 ldid you have an msn adress ?
[04:04] <gamerz> and it say to see a file on /target/something
[04:05] <gamerz> unable to install initrd-tools. check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log
[04:05] <gamerz> this!
[04:05] <RoNaLdO-BR> hey anyone
[04:05] <RoNaLdO-BR> do i use two apt-get instances ?
[04:05] <LjL> Fikrann: there is an /etc/mime.types, not sure if gnome uses it
[04:06] <LjL> RoNaLdO-BR: ?
[04:06] <Fikrann> LjL, thank you, will look.
[04:06] <linuxgeek2> yes RoNaLdO-BR I use only Yahoo mostly
[04:06] <RoNaLdO-BR> do i cant use two apt-get at the same time ?
[04:06] <LjL> RoNaLdO-BR: you can't use more than one APT program, no
[04:06] <LjL> RoNaLdO-BR: at the same time, i mean
[04:06] <RoNaLdO-BR> oh thanks
[04:07] <jason> do i need antivirus software for linux?
[04:08] <RoNaLdO-BR> no , if your always use programs that you know , that doesnt have malicious code inside
[04:09] <RoNaLdO-BR> sorry about poor english ...
[04:10] <brenner> jason: in general no, windows viruses have no effect on linux machines but some people install one anyway
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> jason, no ... but if you want there is antivirus ... i can tell you i been using linux for 4 or so years and no virus
[04:10] <Fikrann> LjL, sadly that didn't work.
[04:10] <dr_willis> i use wine to run/install spyware - so i can see what it doing to my real windows machines.
[04:10] <dr_willis> :P
[04:10] <fec-> any good s/w that displays RSS on desktop ?
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> brenner: ironicaly, using wine alows you to infect linux system files with doze viri :)
[04:11] <server_newbie> I am working on my firewall & I did a netstat -tap
[04:11] <chrisx1> anyone kno what this means
[04:11] <chrisx1> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[04:11] <chrisx1>         LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en",
[04:11] <chrisx1>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[04:11] <chrisx1>         LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"
[04:11] <chrisx1>     are supported and installed on your system.
[04:11] <LjL> Fikrann: look at the contents of the "shared-mime-info" and "gnome-mime-data" databases, i suspect you'll find what you need there
[04:11] <server_newbie> I see this listing tcp        0      0 localhost.localdo:34622 localhost.localdo:34623 ESTABLISHED-
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> chrisx1: ignore it
[04:12] <chrisx1> ok
[04:12] <dr_willis> set the env variable to be somthing    LC_ALL = (unset)   if ya want.
[04:12] <server_newbie> Do I have a hacker ?
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> perl, right?
[04:12] <chrisx1> Kamping_Kaiser, ty
[04:12] <brenner> Kamping_Kaiser: i guess they have some effect after all
[04:12] <server_newbie> I am working on my firewall & I did a netstat -tap
[04:12] <chrisx1> just wanted to make sure it nothin bad
[04:12] <server_newbie> I see this listing tcp        0      0 localhost.localdo:34622 localhost.localdo:34623 ESTABLISHED-
[04:12] <server_newbie> Do I have a hacker ?
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> server_newbie: no you don't
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> server_newbie: no you don't (see above), and don't spam in the cahnnel
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> *channel
[04:13] <philippe__> i need help to use my cdrom
[04:13] <server_newbie> My bad thanks for help... why is 34623 open ?
[04:13] <jason> my screen is to dark how do i turn it up
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> server_newbie: try `lsof |grep 34623`
[04:14] <brenner> jason: push the buttons
[04:14] <jason> on the monitor
[04:15] <Thorondor> does anyone know a working, graphical svn client for ubuntu?
[04:15] <philippe__> when booting ubuntu says "mounting local filesystems, mount: no medium found'
[04:15] <brenner> jason: ahem, yeah, those ones.
[04:15] <jason> thay are at 100
[04:18] <oblib> pepsi, I really don't know, but I saw bootmisc.sh somewhere and it runs for all users. It's probably not the best solution but no one else said anything.
[04:19] <whyameye> anyone actually get cups-pdf to work?
[04:19] <brenner> jason: did it just go dark, or has it been that way since install?
[04:19] <Thorondor> does anyone know a working, graphical svn client for ubuntu? esvn and rapidsvn both didn't for various reasons.
[04:20] <oblib> has anyone used the package 'nvtv'?
[04:20] <jason> its been that way
[04:20] <whyameye> barring using cups-pdf can I just create a .ps file using a printer driver?
[04:21] <whyameye> seems like there are some permission issues with cups-pdf and I can't seem to figure them out...
[04:21] <chrisx1> is this anything bad?
[04:21] <chrisx1> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[04:21] <chrisx1> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[04:21] <chrisx1> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[04:21] <chrisx1> Selecting previously deselected package xserver-xorg-core.
[04:21] <brenner> jason: *shrug* what driver are you using?
[04:21] <dr_willis> your local settings are wrong/not set for some odd reasin.
[04:21] <dr_willis> but that shouldent break anyting as far as i know.
[04:22] <chrisx1> ok
[04:22] <chrisx1> how do i set it?
[04:22] <oblibsnig> Anyone know how hot an Intel Celeron should be allowed to get?
[04:22] <progbliss> does anyone know what I would use to make 32-bit prog on 64-bit sys?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> chrisx1, have you tried running dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[04:23] <brenner> jason: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[04:23] <pepsi> oblib, actually.. i just noticed that the setserial package not only lets me reconfigure the serial ports, but also configures them at boot time, and apparently i can put my configuration in /etc/serial.conf
[04:23] <brenner> jason: what's the last one in the list
[04:23] <brenner> ?
[04:23] <maxx_730> oblibsnig: Port the app ;-)
[04:23] <oblibsnig> wrong person maxx_730
[04:24] <maxx_730> Oh yeah sorry
[04:24] <oblib> okay pepsi
[04:24] <maxx_730> Quite chaotic always IRC channels :-)
[04:24] <oblibsnig> yeah
[04:24] <progbliss> maxx_730: I'm not about to do that. I haven't even done a hello world for linux.
[04:24] <dr_willis> hmm. where do ya get a list of all the "reconfigure" packages you can reconfigure? ie  dpkg-reconfigure locales   --> what if i couldent rember it was 'locales'
[04:25] <tmjb> hello any got problems with grub and SATA2 4x100MB SW RAID5 /boot ?
[04:25] <progbliss> maxx_730: can't I just cross-compile and expect it to use the 32-bit libs?
[04:25] <maxx_730> progbliss: You can try
[04:25] <strokey> back, so can anyone pm me and give me some help? ;o
[04:25] <maxx_730> progbliss: it wont blow up your pc
[04:25] <gnomefreak> hello world program in bash =echo "hello, world"
[04:26] <jason> you have 400 mb of drive space lol
[04:26] <tmjb> strokey what is the problem
[04:26] <LjL> dr_willis: good question
[04:26] <dr_willis> LjL,  i recall hearing the answer once.. but its one of those things i rarely need to do.
[04:26] <strokey> tmjb: my wireless card, and lots of .deb files ;o
[04:26] <tmjb> strokey: what wireless card
[04:26] <buc> 'sera
[04:27] <strokey> a Yakumo QuickWLAN USB
[04:27] <strokey> zd1211 chipestz
[04:27] <strokey> zydas ;o
[04:27] <buc> i'm trying to install lame encoder on my ubuntu breezy system but i can't find the package in the official reps
[04:27] <tmjb> strokey: anyone got it to work
[04:27] <buc> someone can help me?
[04:27] <arnducky> Is kubuntu supposed to have a 'Quit' button (or menu option) or just a logout button?
[04:28] <strokey> tmjb: yea, there was a tutorial on it onwiki
[04:28] <strokey> but i need gcc-3.4
[04:28] <Ofe> !hoary to breezy
[04:28] <ubotu> Ofe: Are you smoking crack?
[04:28] <strokey> thats were the .deb packages come in :_:
[04:28] <tmjb> strokey: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[04:28] <strokey> tried
[04:28] <arnducky> My ACPI powereswitch doesn't work either, but init 0 does alow keyboard wakep
[04:28] <tmjb> strokey: and
[04:28] <strokey> no package found
[04:28] <tmjb> strokey: what ubuntu
[04:28] <strokey> 5.10
[04:28] <whyameye> Okay I got cups-pdf working. There's some configuration stuff....
[04:28] <arnducky> (S2 state)
[04:29] <Ofe> !no but I'm trying to find the wiki that tells about updating from hoary to breezy with installation CD. ^^
[04:29] <ubotu> Ofe: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:29] <knoppix> hay strokey
[04:29] <strokey> hi
[04:29] <tn> hi
[04:30] <strokey> hi
[04:30] <tmjb> strokey: did u setup additonal repository. /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:30] <tn> i've recently downloaded ubuntu 5.10 and I'd like to know if there is a mean to get the build scripts ?
[04:31] <strokey> tmjb: how would i do that?
[04:31] <tmjb> strokey: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <tmjb>  uncoment
[04:31] <Sionide> i have an external hard disk plugged into my firewire connection - how can i mount it?
[04:31] <tn> I'm trying to figure out how that distro is made and how I could play with it.
[04:31] <Sionide> should it have done it automatically?
[04:31] <tmjb> strokey: or some other editor
[04:31] <humfak> Hi, I just bought a brand new apple powerbook g4 (15in, 167GHz). I wanted to install ubuntu 5.10 on it, but during install tells me that it doesn't know my cd drive (matshita dvd-r uj-846). Can anyone help?
[04:32] <Ofe> !hoary
[04:32] <ubotu> hoary is probably a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[04:32] <tmjb> strokey:u know how to use some console editor on linux
[04:32] <strokey> 167 ghz? :O
[04:32] <Sionide> !firewire
[04:32] <ubotu> Sionide: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:32] <strokey> tmjb: i only installed linux last ngiht after a few hours of failed attems every few months
[04:32] <humfak> forgot the dot, 1.67
[04:33] <brenner> humfak: i've heard of it before.  search the forum while you wait
[04:33] <tmjb> strokey: first learn how to use some edior pico maybe easier for you
[04:34] <tmjb> strokey: login as root type pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:34] <brenner> uh, no need to login as root
[04:34] <brenner> just use sudo
[04:34] <tmjb> ok
[04:34] <tmjb> u can use sudo
[04:34] <brenner> and adding repos can be done using synaptic if you want a GUI
[04:35] <tmjb> brenner: thats right but mybe kids should learn something
[04:35] <gnomefreak> !sources
[04:36] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:36] <humfak> brenner: will do.
[04:36] <brenner> tmjb: probably.  i was just suggesting an alternative
[04:36] <strokey> Its offical, its now been 24hours since i installed ubuntu and i still have no internet on that -.
[04:36] <tmjb> brenner: yeah know ;)
[04:37] <tmjb> brenner:anyone got problems with grub and raid5 on install
[04:37] <strokey> im going to try that soon tmjb
[04:37] <strokey> any other things i can do so i can write it down?
[04:37] <brenner> tmjb: no idea. sorry.
[04:37] <tmjb> brenner: ok
[04:38] <tmjb> strokey: sudo apt-get update
[04:38] <tvo> hi, can anyone tell me what I should write in grub/menu.lst to boot windows from 2nd HD (which i just inserted) ?
[04:38] <pepsi> dr_willis, did you find out how to get the list of reconfigurable packages?
[04:38] <strokey> tmjb: got that
[04:39] <dr_willis> pepsi,  if anyone posted how - i missed it.
[04:39] <dr_willis> :P
[04:39] <dr_willis> pepsi,  i think theres a dir somewhere that has them all. :P
[04:39] <maxx_730> Try to do a google search on if there are drivers for your cd drive
[04:39] <maxx_730> then stick them on a usb stick
[04:39] <maxx_730> Press ctrl+alt+Fx till you get "press enter to activate this console"
[04:39] <maxx_730> And then log in as root and mount the drive
[04:39] <maxx_730> And modprobe the driver on it
[04:39] <maxx_730> Is the only thing i can think of
[04:39] <pepsi> dr_willis, if you use synaptic, if you click the Custom button, "Package with Debconf" lists them, but i would like a non-gui solution
[04:39] <tmjb> strokey: but u can finish all using  synaptic
[04:40] <pepsi> been looking through the dpkg man page and i dont see anything
[04:40] <gnomefreak> tvo,  if you install windows first there shouldnt be a problem it is always recommended to install windows first than linux that way you use grub to boot not windows pos boot loader
[04:40] <Bac9> tali: ping
[04:40] <pepsi> but dpkg-reconfigure can take `--all` as a parameter to mean reconfigure all packages so there must be an easy way to find them
[04:40] <oblib> has anyone used the package 'nvtv'?
[04:41] <tvo> gnomefreak: yeah, I know, it's just that I _need_ windows for 1 night (lan party) and I had it on a spare HD, so I inserted the HD and it boots fine if I change it in bios, I just don't know what to add to menu.lst to not have to change boot device in bios..
[04:41] <strokey> tmjb: what you mean?
[04:42] <dr_willis> pepsi,  ugh.. what custom button? :P
[04:42] <pepsi> on the bottom
[04:42] <dr_willis> ahh there it is.. :P
[04:42] <dr_willis> what a silly place for a button. :P
[04:43] <tmjb> strokey: it is simple synpatic can update,update repos install remove packages what ever very good tool
[04:43] <strokey> oO
[04:48] <brenner> strokey: he's saying synaptic is nifty :)
[04:48] <brenner> strokey: anyway, after you've updated, install the package you want
[04:48] <brenner> sudo apt-get install <package>
[04:48] <brenner> or use synaptic
[04:48] <pepsi> dr_willis, `debconf-show --listowners`
[04:48] <pepsi> :D
[04:49] <strokey> brenner
[04:49] <strokey> gcc-3.4 ?
[04:49] <brenner> if that's what you want, yes
[04:49] <pepsi> dr_willis, maybe pipe that to sort
[04:49] <brenner> strokey: what was your original problem though. i missed it
[04:49] <strokey> well theres lots of .deb files on my desktop what install gcc 3.r4
[04:49] <strokey> 3.4*
[04:49] <strokey> i just dont know how to install them
[04:49] <gnomefreak> strokey, either apt-get install gcc3.4 or apt-get install build-essential
[04:49] <gnomefreak> add sudo to the beginning
[04:50] <dooglus> is it possible to set it so that a user can log in with no password?
[04:50] <brenner> strokey: i repeat, what's your original problem ... what deb files?
[04:50] <dooglus> "man passwd" tells me that "passwd -d" will do that, but it doesn't seem to work
[04:50] <strokey> brenner: theres 6 .deb files
[04:51] <gnomefreak> dooglus,  the guide for ubuntu on the wiki will tell you how to do it
[04:51] <strokey> what install a full gcc 3.4 afaik
[04:51] <dooglus> gnomefreak: url?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[04:51] <ubuntu> Need some help guys
[04:51] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[04:51] <strokey> so i can compile my zd1211 drivers for linux
[04:51] <gnomefreak> the last one in ubotus msg
[04:51] <strokey> cause the ones what i did with build essential
[04:51] <strokey> gave me lots of errors
[04:51] <strokey> :E
[04:51] <ubuntu> How do I mount a ubuntu filesystem under the live cd
[04:51] <ubuntu> I have ubuntu installed but I messed up with grub
[04:51] <ubuntu> now trying to use the live cd to edit a file
[04:52] <ubuntu> how do I mount my ubuntu install filesystem
[04:52] <ubuntu> so I can edit a file
[04:52] <gnomefreak> strokey,  what kind of errors if i may ask?
[04:52] <brenner> strokey: ok, no need to use those.  just install the gcc-3.4 and you should be right as gnomefreak said
[04:52] <dooglus> ubuntu: "sudo mkdir /media/windows; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows"
[04:52] <dooglus> ubuntu: "sudo mkdir /media/windows; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows"
[04:52] <dooglus> sorry.
[04:52] <aeon17x> dooglus: that doesn't mount his Ubuntu filesystem.
[04:52] <ubuntu> it's not windows
[04:52] <KV9U> Has anyone heard of problems with live CD not ablel to boot with newer Athlon 64 HP Media Center PC's?
[04:52] <ubuntu> it's ubuntu
[04:52] <gnomefreak> personally i perfer the build-essentail cause its a meta-package
[04:53] <nasimuto> yesterday i uninstalled & removed all things gnome in synaptics. I selected gnome to be removed and then marked all the dependant packs that synaptics offered to be removed too (including ubuntu-desktop). When i just booted my laptop - there is no Ubuntu logon screen, in fact, X/X11 doesnt even start. Is that because i uninstalled ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:53] <strokey> brenner: with apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?
[04:53] <ubuntu> which filesystem does ubuntu use?
[04:53] <infralite> any
[04:53] <ubuntu> by default
[04:53] <gnomefreak> nasimuto, more than likely yes if that was your only desktop
[04:53] <infralite> ah hmm
[04:53] <infralite> prolly ext3
[04:53] <brenner> yes, although showing us the errors might be better before you do that
[04:53] <ubuntu> I need to sepecify it in mount
[04:53] <infralite> ubuntu: do a -t auto
[04:53] <dooglus> aeon17x: no
[04:54] <nasimuto> gnomefreak: before that i installed fluxbox
[04:54] <dooglus> aeon17x: but it's close :)
[04:54] <dooglus> ubuntu: ext3 by default
[04:54] <gnomefreak> i think fluxbox is part of gnome
[04:54] <dooglus> ubuntu: -t auto should do it
[04:54] <ubuntu> auto doesn't work
[04:54] <dooglus> gnomefreak: were you thinking of this?  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch06.html#id2533780 ?  it doesn't answer my question.  I'm talking about logging in, not sudo'ing
[04:55] <brenner> strokey: use the pastebin in the topic
[04:55] <aeon17x> ubuntu: what was your drive's filesystem?
[04:55] <ubuntu> okat -t ext3 worked
[04:55] <gnomefreak> dooglus, look at 6.8 on that page
[04:55] <strokey> brenner: what for? ;e
[04:55] <Nick1> hello
[04:55] <brenner> strokey: er, to paste the error
[04:55] <gnomefreak> 6.8 says how do i automatic log in gnome (not secure)
[04:55] <pepsi> nasimuto, what package did you remove? "gnome" doesnt depend on ubuntu-desktop and isnt even installed by default
[04:56] <strokey> brenner: the error for apt-get install gcc-3.4 ios
[04:56] <strokey> package cannot be found
[04:56] <forseL> sera
[04:56] <varsendagger> nasimuto, if you type startx /usr/bin/fluxbox that should do it
[04:56] <gnomefreak> strokey, what repos do you have enabled?
[04:56] <Sedge> !java
[04:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:56] <nasimuto> pepsi: u marked Remove all to gnome or gnome-common in the synaptics manager and it showed me a list of things that must be removed with it
[04:56] <gnomefreak> !info build-essentail
[04:56] <Sedge> !javadebs
[04:56] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:56] <strokey> gnomefreak: no idea what you mean
[04:57] <gnomefreak> strokey, you were in your sources list before right?
[04:57] <strokey> gnomefreak: no, i havent been into linux since you said do pico sources.list or whatever
[04:57] <nasimuto> varsendagger: but i'd like to have that neat ubuntu login screen back
[04:57] <pepsi> nasimuto, but ubuntu-desktop isnt dependant upon gnome or gnome-common.. neither of them are installed by default....
[04:57] <pepsi> nasimuto, either way its probably cause you removed gdm
[04:58] <nasimuto> i may have removed gdm
[04:58] <pepsi> install xdm
[04:58] <tmjb> gnomefreak: that is what i said him to do
[04:58] <nasimuto> pepsi: will xdm bring my ubuntu login screen back ?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> strokey, build-essentail is either universe or multi universe so the repository you need will be one of them
[04:58] <pepsi> nasimuto, no because thats in gdm
[04:58] <Sirius_kr> okay im in a command line IRC, xserver is not starting i tried installing fglrx and setting it as the driver in xorg.conf but when i try to startx it says cannot load module ???? any suggestions ????
[04:58] <nasimuto> pepsi: thanks
[04:58] <hagin_> hello one questioin
[04:59] <gnomefreak> strokey,  do me a favor type in term. "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the file into paste bin for me to look at
[04:59] <gnomefreak> no quote
[04:59] <Kzar[dot] net> hagin_: ok, juste one please.
[04:59] <brenner> Sirius_kr: is the module loaded?
[04:59] <Sirius_kr> im not sure
[04:59] <hagin_> how can i add a new resolution to my list?
[04:59] <brenner> Sirius_kr: lsmod
[04:59] <strokey> gnomefreak: i cant do that
[04:59] <brenner> Sirius_kr: and look for fglrx
[05:00] <pepsi> hagin_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:00] <gnomefreak> strokey, why not?
[05:00] <strokey> cause i cant get the intenret not write to my windows drive
[05:00] <strokey> and its dual boot
[05:00] <Sirius_kr> brenner is there a way to stay in irc and switch from command like back and forth cause i dont want to exit this lol
[05:00] <hagin_> where can i read about it_
[05:00] <pepsi> Sirius_kr, alt-Fn
[05:00] <gnomefreak> strokey, are you on windows now?
[05:00] <strokey> yes
[05:00] <Sirius_kr> Fn ?
[05:00] <Sirius_kr> o nvm
[05:00] <ubuntu> hello
[05:00] <gnomefreak> strokey,  ok give me a sec please
[05:00] <brenner> Sirius_kr: or you can use screen
[05:01] <hagin_> pepsi where can i read abotu it?
[05:01] <Sirius_kr> brenner fglrx is in the list
[05:02] <dooglus> gnomefreak: 6.8 is no good - that only works for one user
[05:02] <ubuntu> hey does anyone here know of a better media player other then totem?
[05:02] <brenner> Sirius_kr: how'd you install the driver?
[05:02] <pepsi> hagin_, read about what? reconfiguring xserver-xorg will edit your /etc/X11/xserver.conf file for you
[05:02] <ubuntu> that will work with ubuntu i mean
[05:02] <brenner> ubotu: tell ubuntu about players
[05:02] <hagin_> odes anybody know how can i add new resolution to my list?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> dooglus,  you should beable to set it up for each user
[05:02] <ubuntu> does vlc work with ubuntu?
[05:02] <brenner> ubuntu: sure does
[05:02] <ubuntu> cool : )
[05:02] <gnomefreak> strokey, when is next time you will boot to ubuntu?
[05:03] <pepsi> hagin_, i just told you.. `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` just follow the directions
[05:03] <Sirius_kr> brenner: i used the sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and then ran a command that i was reading out of the documentation that i think loaded the module and then i edited xorg.conf to have the fglrx instaid of the ati
[05:03] <hagin_> pepsi thx i ll try
[05:03] <Topslakr> anyone know the difference between pc2-5300 and pc2-5400 ddr2 ram? Same clockspeed on both...
[05:03] <brenner> Sirius_kr: *nod* seems right...was the doc off the wiki?
[05:03] <strokey> gnomefreak: whenever i feel i got enough commands to play with to give me some sort of chance to have the internet :D
[05:03] <Skwid_>  hum
[05:03] <Sirius_kr> brenner: yup
[05:03] <Skwid_> my terminal displays "The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was .." every second
[05:03] <Skwid_> I cannot even type a command
[05:03] <gnomefreak> strokey, dial up or dsl or cable?
[05:03] <brenner> Sirius_kr: tried restarting?
[05:03] <strokey> dsl
[05:03] <Skwid_> an idea of what is wrong ?
[05:03] <Sirius_kr> brenner: of course :P
[05:04] <brenner> Sirius_kr: maybe read the xorg log for more info?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> dsl and your nic card isnt being detected?
[05:04] <KV9U> I have a question about Ubuntu Live version, can someone help me on this?
[05:04] <Sirius_kr> brenner i had the same problem last time i installed ubuntu on here i got it working somehow with the drivers but i forgot lol
[05:04] <RoNaLdO-BR> uboto
[05:04] <Sirius_kr> the xorg log is where i got the cannot load module error let me read it again
[05:06] <Sirius_kr> brenner: Fatal server error: Module load failure    is what xorg.0.log says
[05:07] <tvo> gnomefreak: I figured out, had to map hd0->hd1 and vice versa, because windows is too dumb to boot from 2nd HD..
[05:07] <ale3hs> xqmze why gnutella says that I am TCP firewalled?? it has to do with my provider or something?
[05:07] <brenner> Sirius_kr: does the ati driver work for you?
[05:08] <Skwid_> no ideas ?? :(
[05:08] <brenner> Skwid_: what caused it?
[05:08] <Sirius_kr> brenner the ati driver is what was installed first and first gave me this error, x will not work with a fresh copy of ubuntu on this system i have to fix the drivers somehow
[05:08] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's an auto login.  how can it automatically log in as more than one user?
[05:08] <brenner> Skwid_: by terminal, you mean gnome-terminal, or your console?
[05:08] <Skwid_> brenner: no idea... it was a couple hours after the install
[05:09] <Skwid_> but my cd drive is empty
[05:09] <KV9U> Looking for help
[05:09] <Skwid_> brenner: humm ... ctrl + alt + f1 etc
[05:09] <brenner> Sirius_kr: use the vesa driver for now
[05:09] <brenner> Sirius_kr: at least you'll get a GUI
[05:09] <brenner> Skwid_: console
[05:10] <Sirius_kr> brenner: so type vesa in the driver part ?
[05:10] <varsendagger> nasimuto, just apt-get gdm again
[05:10] <brenner> Skwid_: dunno, i never heard of that error....search the forum
[05:10] <Skwid_> brenner: oh wait, now that I think about it, it was after i installed a couple apps with synaptics, and in those was k3b
[05:10] <strokey> gnomefreak
[05:10] <strokey> erm
[05:10] <brenner> Sirius_kr: *nod*
[05:10] <Skwid_> could that be it ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> strokey,
[05:10] <strokey> i have a wireless USB stick, i dunno if its been detected or not
[05:10] <strokey> if i do modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:10] <brenner> Skwid_: maybe :)
[05:10] <strokey> it makes my ubuntu real laggy
[05:10] <Skwid_> brenner: ill try
[05:10] <nasimuto> varsendagger: i did, and it works :D
[05:10] <varsendagger> cool
[05:11] <niniel> hi, what is the spanish channel for ubuntu?
[05:11] <brenner> wireless USB stick?  i never even knew they came with wires.
[05:11] <gnomefreak> strokey,  sorry wireless is not me i dont use it and wont use it unless i have to i bought cute lil things that plug in wall to use instead of wireless
[05:11] <varsendagger> i did about the sam thing you did nasimuto except i just installed a server ubuntu and then added programs as i went
[05:11] <brenner> niniel: #ubuntu-es
[05:11] <niniel> thanks!
[05:12] <brenner> yw
[05:12] <gnomefreak> ok who knows about bash scripting?
[05:12] <strokey> gnomefreak: great :D
[05:12] <gnomefreak> lol strokey  sorry man
[05:12] <dman_> ive got a ssh question.. system hoary: ssh server and client installed, pam also installed
[05:12] <rohan> hi all
[05:12] <blah> blah
[05:12] <rohan> i think i am in a major problem
[05:13] <Skwid_> brenner: found a bunch of entries in the forum
[05:13] <gnomefreak> rohan,  wont know till you tell us what is wrong
[05:13] <siriuskr> brenner you froze my computer lol
[05:13] <rohan> my ubuntu / was 7 gb, 3 gb free. i resized it to 10gb. now after reboot, df -h still shows 10gb, and "gparted" shows 10gb with 6gb used up. how ? its ext3 partition. i used gparted from other distro to resize
[05:13] <ubuntu> ok someone mind giving me detailed instructions on how to install vlc
[05:13] <dman_> although i specify no root logins.. ssh server does give me the password prompt when i try to login with root
[05:13] <dman_> thats ok?
[05:13] <blah> bbllllllllllaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:13] <Skwid_> its all with hp pavillions ..
[05:13] <brenner> Skwid_: hopefully they're useful :)
[05:13] <ubuntu> im at the website but im not sure which linux to choose
[05:13] <rohan> gnomefreak: need time to type .. long msf XD
[05:13] <rohan> ubuntu: new to linux ?
[05:13] <ubuntu> yes : P
[05:13] <hagin_> pepsi it does not work
[05:13] <rohan> ubuntu: www.mepis.org --> imo, best for new people
[05:14] <brenner> ubuntu: stop right there
[05:14] <mjk64> I try to install Ubuntu using "expert" (/not/ expert-server), and after reboot, it is only half set-up, i. e. only 350 MB on HD, although this is supposed to install a desktop system. What's wrong?
[05:14] <rohan> gnomefreak: ^^^
[05:14] <gnomefreak> rohan,  i read it
[05:14] <rohan> gnomefreak: ok..
[05:14] <gnomefreak> im thinking right now
[05:14] <rohan> am i screwed ?
[05:14] <brenner> ubuntu: in general, no more need to go hunting around installaing stuff from sites
[05:14] <siriuskr> brenner now it when it goes to the load the GUI like when you first reboot it gives me a curser at the top and thats it nothings happening
[05:14] <rohan> how did the disk space utilization go up suddenly /
[05:14] <strokey> gnomefreak: np , i dont like wireless :(
[05:14] <brenner> ubuntu: enable the universe repository
[05:14] <ale3hs> plz somebody tell me why I am TCP firewalled in nutella??
[05:14] <strokey> but my router is 4 floors down
[05:14] <brenner> ubuntu: and install vlc through there
[05:15] <pepsi> hagin_, ?
[05:15] <gnomefreak> this maybe a stupid question but rohan  why would you try to add another distro to a 10 gig hd?
[05:15] <hagin_> pepsi it does not work
[05:15] <ubuntu> ok im new and have no idea what the universe repository is
[05:15] <pepsi> what doesnt?
[05:15] <dman_> ive got a ssh question.. system hoary: ssh server and client installed, pam also installed
[05:15] <rohan> gnomefreak: oops.. no.. i resized the ubuntu / partition from 7gb to 10gb
[05:15] <dman_> although i specify no root logins.. ssh server does give me the password prompt when i try to login with root
[05:15] <dman_> thats ok?
[05:15] <aeon17x> ubuntu: Start reading the help files then.
[05:15] <hagin_> it sayas that some commands are not compatible
[05:15] <gnomefreak> strokey,  my router is 3 floors downa nd these pawer line adapters are great :)
[05:15] <brenner> siriuskr: you get the rotating thingy?
[05:15] <ubuntu> where are the help files? : P
[05:15] <pepsi> hagin_, what says that?
[05:15] <strokey> gnomefreak: whatcha mean?
[05:15] <brenner> ubuntu: you running breezy?
[05:15] <siriuskr> brenner: no i get nothing lol
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ok rohan  what partion itsself did you resize?
[05:15] <ubuntu> ubuntu 5.10
[05:16] <brenner> ubuntu: yes, that's breezy
[05:16] <ubuntu> ok
[05:16] <siriuskr> brenner and the computer freezes
[05:16] <brenner> ubuntu: system > help
[05:16] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I found the answer.  If you're interested, the last but one post on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12777.html tells how to do it
[05:16] <rohan> gnomefreak: /dev/hdc1 the ubuntu root partition "/"
[05:16] <snowblink> dman_, yes
[05:16] <hagin_> it says that some actions are not compatible
[05:16] <ale3hs> brenner, whats the difference between breezy and hoas (whatever it is called) ??
[05:16] <brenner> ubuntu: then click on the starter guide
[05:16] <gnomefreak> strokey,  they are called powerline adapters plug ethernet into the adapter plug adapter into wall :)
[05:16] <ubuntu> ok thanks! : D
[05:16] <dman_> snowblink, anyway of preventing it?
[05:16] <brenner> ale3hs: hoary was the previous release
[05:16] <pepsi> hagin_, what is "it"? what says that?
[05:16] <dman_> snowblink, if i were to have a root account, would things be different?
[05:16] <brenner> ale3hs: breezy is the latest stable release
[05:17] <hagin_> terminal
[05:17] <brenner> siriuskr: so you get a black screen?  what was the cursor you were talking about?
[05:17] <strokey> gnomefreak: so it runs throuhg power lines?
[05:17] <hagin_> pepsi, terminal
[05:17] <strokey> so theres not many wires rnning throughout the house?
[05:17] <siriuskr> brenner it looks like this   _
[05:17] <snowblink> dman_, man sshd_config
[05:17] <ale3hs> so brenner every ubuntu edition comes with a different name instead v# ??
[05:18] <pepsi> hagin_, that doesnt make any sense to me
[05:18] <snowblink> dman_, PermitRootLogin
[05:18] <gnomefreak> yep strokey  any outlet you want to use :)
[05:18] <siriuskr> brenner is there a way to start back in command like before it trys to start up x ?
[05:18] <strokey> The_wow: awsome
[05:18] <strokey> er
[05:18] <strokey> wow* awsome
[05:18] <hagin_> pepsi ok... forget it
[05:18] <brenner> ale3hs: both.  hoary = 5.04, breezy = 5.10
[05:18] <strokey> um, how does it now which one to go to?
[05:18] <rohan> no one ? i will need to reinstall ubuntu ? :(
[05:18] <brenner> siriuskr: recovery mode i'm afraid
[05:19] <siriuskr> brenner do i need the disk for that ?
[05:19] <brenner> siriuskr: that's weird, the vesa driver is generally regarded as a failsafe
[05:19] <gnomefreak> strokey, the router you will have pc connected to goes into port 1 and the port 2 goes from router to the adapter and so ona nd so forth
[05:19] <brenner> siriuskr: no, it should be in the grub menu
[05:19] <siriuskr> brenner okay ill brb hopefully on that computer :P
[05:19] <strokey> so cable from router > into plug socket > from plug socket into pc ?
[05:19] <brenner> siriuskr: it will drop you into a command line
[05:19] <ale3hs> brenner, do u have any idea if i can run motorolla software in linux to connect my mobile?
[05:20] <brenner> siriuskr: you can change it back to fglrx if you want
[05:20] <brenner> ale3hs: no clue sorry.  check the forum
[05:20] <gnomefreak> you need 2 of them one on main pc and one on other pc and to run 2 pcs the adapters connect to eachother via. power lines
[05:20] <brenner> or the motorola site itself
[05:21] <ale3hs> brenner, motorolla doesnt refer anything about linux .. weird ;)
[05:21] <dman_> snowblink, thanks!! do you know of anyway to tell PAM not to allow logins from root?
[05:21] <strokey> gnomefreak: so , cable from router into pc 1 > pc1 runs cable into power socket > pc 2 plugs something else into a power socket and connects? ;o
[05:21] <mahangu> !w32codec
[05:21] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:21] <gnomefreak> ale3hs, motorolla doesnt support linux
[05:21] <mahangu> twidget, heya
[05:21] <twidget> Hewwo
[05:21] <brenner> ale3hs: yeah, stupid suggestion. sorry. :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> strokey, pc one runs from nic card to router from router to wall adapter  pc #2 runs from nic card to wall adapter
[05:22] <ale3hs> gnomefreak, so not a chance to connect my moto to linux ?? any clue ??
[05:22] <gnomefreak> ale3hs, your phone? router? what?
[05:22] <strokey> gnomefreak: and what are they called?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> powerline adapters or power over ethernet
[05:23] <ale3hs> gnomefreak, phone of course .. I need to write an aplication fot moto's
[05:23] <gnomefreak> strokey,  google powerline adapters they have wired and wireless
[05:23] <snowblink> dman_, You could lock root passwd - default on Uuntu.
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ale3hs,  i dont know about phone call moto and ask or email them but last time i talked to them they said they dont support linux meaning their help is for windows
[05:24] <snowblink> dman_, passwd -l root
[05:25] <Sirius_kr> brenner: okay im back on this computer lol
[05:25] <Kzar[dot] net> ale3hs: Java applications .?
[05:25] <ale3hs> Kzar[dot] net, yes
[05:25] <Sirius_kr> brenner: i guess i can try uninstalling and reinstall fglrx ?
[05:25] <ale3hs> Kzar[dot] net, at least there is any emulator in linux?
[05:25] <brenner> Sirius_kr: i guess. sorry i couldn't help more
[05:25] <Sirius_kr> brenner: how do you unload the module and remove the package ?
[05:26] <Kzar[dot] net> ale3hs: have a llok to Bluetooth, or any USB cable available. Or use the Moto's web cliient to D/L your applis :)
[05:26] <Kzar[dot] net> ale3hs: ask for a Moto's phone emulator to... Moto
[05:26] <bipolar> is there ever going to be an upgrade of mono in breezy?
[05:26] <Goatocausto> hi can anyone help me with some dumb questions please ?? i want to run Xfce, do i need a different linux distro than Ubuntu to do this ??
[05:26] <ale3hs> Kzar[dot] net,  hahaha will u think that will help?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto,  at terminal type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <Kzar[dot] net> ale3hs: sure.
[05:27] <gnomefreak> xubuntu=xfce desktop manager
[05:27] <Goatocausto> ok um
[05:27] <Kzar[dot] net> ale3hs: Java mobiles emulators, well, that depends on the mobile constructor.
[05:27] <Goatocausto> hmn
[05:27] <brenner> Sirius_kr: modprobe -r i think
[05:27] <Goatocausto> there is no "how to" anywhere?
[05:27] <mahangu> how do I install a deb file?
[05:27] <Akonkwa> Gnome and X won't start when I boot my computer. Can anybody help?
[05:27] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: you shouldn't immediately ask people to go to the terminal, type in their root password, and install something.
[05:27] <Kzar[dot] net> and the Java VM builder too.
[05:28] <neiras> woohoo, Ubuntu "Best Linux Desktop for Business": http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/0,39023100,39237495,00.htm
[05:28] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto, i just told you how to
[05:28] <Sirius_kr> brenner so modprobe -r fglrx ?
[05:28] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: does it starts with "startx" ?
[05:28] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: well, not really the root password, but their password nonetheless.
[05:28] <Goatocausto> ok cool
[05:28] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net,  No i doesn't
[05:28] <ale3hs> Kzar[dot] net, i will check it, coz to be honest I asked here without search at all.. I am a bit lazy looking for such things
[05:28] <gnomefreak> that is all you need to type
[05:28] <Goatocausto> sorry i am kinda new to 'nux, but i used mandrake for a bit before and stuff
[05:28] <Goatocausto> ok
[05:28] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: we shouldn't get them to the habit of doing it all the time.
[05:28] <Sirius_kr> brenner: and sudo apt-get remove xorg-drive-fglrx ?
[05:28] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: so have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0/log file
[05:28] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: pastebin it
[05:29] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto, yes you need your password thought he might have known that aeon17x
[05:29] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net : xcan i tell you what I found in it? i wrote it down
[05:29] <Sirius_kr> brenner yea that worked :d
[05:29] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: pastebin it.
[05:29] <brenner> Sirius_kr: actually, maybe you just remove fglrx from /etc/modules
[05:29] <Kzar[dot] net> !pastebin
[05:29] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:29] <dman_> snowblink, it now says "root:*:1....." that is enough (or the same)?
[05:29] <Kzar[dot] net> !topic
[05:29] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net,  What's pastebin?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> aeon17x, i only tell them to use sudo when i know its needed if i dont know its needed it wont prompt for a password if not needed
[05:29] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:30] <Sirius_kr> brenner: then how do i add fglrx back into modules ?
[05:30] <Goatocausto> hmn ok
[05:30] <brenner> Sirius_kr: i'm using this as a reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:30] <seww> ok, i screwed the xorg.conf so i can't use X anymore. How do i change xorg.conf with VI or VIM so i can get into X again?
[05:30] <snowblink> dman_, sudo passwd -S root
[05:30] <mahangu> seww, did you make a backup?
[05:30] <seww> mahangu, nope
[05:30] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: it's not that, I'm just saying the first reply you say to normal people is not to send them to the terminal and type their password.
[05:30] <Sirius_kr> brenner: please copy and paste the load module command if you dont mind
[05:30] <seww> i changed the original
[05:30] <LjL> Swedish_Chef: what about just using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[05:30] <brenner> Sirius_kr: the command in step 2 just appends fglrx to the textfile
[05:30] <Kzar[dot] net> seww: use nano if you now how to use Notepad for Windows
[05:30] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net: How do I copy the text from my Xorg.0.log file?
[05:30] <snowblink> dman_, man passwd
[05:31] <brenner> Sirius_kr: oh, sorry. forgot :)
[05:31] <mahangu> seww, i can give you mine if you like, but what is your video card?
[05:31] <seww> Kzar[dot] net, will that work without X?
[05:31] <Sirius_kr> brenner  :D
[05:31] <gnomefreak> aeon17x,  i did?
[05:31] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: links
[05:31] <brenner> Sirius_kr: this is the load command: echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[05:31] <seww> mahangu, i use a nvidia card
[05:31] <Sirius_kr> brenner thanks
[05:31] <Kzar[dot] net> seww: for sure
[05:31] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: Yes, when you asked him to sudo.
[05:31] <mahangu> seww, sorry then
[05:31] <mahangu> ask around
[05:31] <seww> Kzar[dot] net, ok, will try that
[05:31] <seww> mahangu, haha ok..
[05:31] <seww> gonna try Kzar[dot] net's idea
[05:31] <seww> later
[05:31] <mahangu> later
[05:31] <Kzar[dot] net> seww: nano is a text editor
[05:32] <mahangu> wtf
[05:32] <mahangu> he wanted a text editor?
[05:32] <dman_> snowblink, i was on to u.. reading man passwd now.. ;-)
[05:32] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net: what do you mean by links? I access the Xorg.0.Log file using less. How do I make a link?
[05:32] <Kzar[dot] net> mahangu: "ok, i screwed the xorg.conf so i can't use X anymore. How do i change xorg.conf with VI or VIM so i can get into X again?"
[05:32] <Sirius_kr> okay brb
[05:32] <Sirius_kr> quit
[05:32] <Echelon-H> any idea why XMMS won't work?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> aeon17x,  so i should have told him to use synaptic?
[05:32] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: links is a web browser in console.
[05:32] <gnomefreak> im not understanding what you mean
[05:32] <mahangu> Kzar[dot] net, so he knew about vim but didnt know to do sudo vi <filename>? wierd
[05:32] <gnomefreak> to install you need to use sudo
[05:33] <dman_> snowblink, root L .. so im good i think.. THANKS!
[05:33] <sklav> yisou ellada
[05:33] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: you should've pointed him to a guide.
[05:33] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net: You mean I can browse a site in the console?
[05:34] <snowblink> dman_, np
[05:34] <andream> hi, anybody knows how I can install ubuntu from its livecd?
[05:34] <sklav> Hi guys
[05:34] <andream> I mean install it on the hd
[05:34] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: yes ! you have the choice for a console web browser : links, lynx, links2 (the last one)
[05:34] <strokey> gnomefreak: do you know any sites about them? and do they work on french wires?
[05:35] <Goatocausto> mm it must be a bit annoying having so many questions :S
[05:35] <gnomefreak> aeon17x, guide will tell him to use synaptic or sudo. he wanted to know how to install something i gave him the answer i dont go around asking how new ppl are to linux
[05:35] <gnomefreak> strokey,  i will give you a site or 2
[05:35] <strokey> awsome
[05:35] <Echelon-H> im trying to run XMMS and it just won't do nothing.
[05:35] <Akonkwa> Kzar[dot] net: Ok, i'll try that
[05:36] <sklav> Echelon get mp3 plugin its in universe
[05:36] <Sirius_kr> brenner: what is the command to reconfigure the xorg file in GUI command mode like dpkg or something ?
[05:36] <Echelon-H> no, it's not even starting.
[05:36] <Echelon-H> not even error code.
[05:36] <brenner> Sirius_kr: i'd back up your xorg.conf file first
[05:36] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: once in Pastebin website, you can upload your Xorg.0.log file
[05:36] <sklav> you run it from a konsole window?
[05:36] <aeon17x> gnomefreak: the point is, getting them to type their password is _not_ the first thing they should know.
[05:36] <pepsi> Sirius_kr, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it backs it up for you
[05:36] <andream> anyone?
[05:37] <brenner> pepsi: oh, neat.
[05:37] <gnomefreak> strokey, http://www.google.com/search?q=powerline+adapters&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[05:37] <andream> hi, anybody knows how I can install ubuntu from its livecd?
[05:37] <^rob^> hi
[05:37] <devilz_> hi i have linux partition where i have movies, mp3s
[05:37] <^rob^> does anyone use mkisofs to backup dvd data?
[05:37] <devilz_> id like to use it like a user
[05:37] <strokey> gnomefreak: there expensive T_T
[05:37] <devilz_> how i do that
[05:37] <gnomefreak> aeon17x,  all im saying is either way hes gonna have to type his password if he uses synaptic or term.
[05:38] <spacedman> ahh, its friday afternoon here, so everyone enjoy this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/glagla/54320217/in/set-1177687/
[05:38] <Kzar[dot] net> Akonkwa: use this website : http://pastebin.ca/upload.php
[05:38] <Echelon-H> I don't get it, I can't run XMMS
[05:38] <devilz_> its /home/user/Stuff
[05:38] <gnomefreak> strokey, i payed about 120 for 2
[05:38] <dr_willis> andream,  not at this time as far as i know.
[05:38] <andream> dr_willis, thanks
[05:38] <strokey> gnomefreak: surely i only need 1 tho? seen as im the only one who doesent want wireless in my house hold? ;o
[05:38] <gnomefreak> strokey,  you need atleast 2 one for the pc with router and one for other pc
[05:39] <deeptz> i have downloaded ubuntu for x86 a single cd iso
[05:39] <brenner> Sirius_kr: gtg, good luck!
[05:39] <deeptz> i want gcc
[05:40] <Sirius_kr> brenner: thanks later
[05:40] <deeptz> do i need to get it from apt source
[05:40] <Kzar[dot] net> deeptz: sudo apt-get install build-essentiam
[05:40] <Kzar[dot] net> deeptz: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:40] <devilz_> can someone please help me
[05:40] <Renski> what with devilz_ ?
[05:40] <Sirius_kr> I get a No Screens Found in the xorg.0.log File as the Error anyone mind helping :D ?
[05:40] <devilz_> Renski, how i change permisson of /home/user/moviz
[05:40] <devilz_> so i can see it like a user
[05:41] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: your xorg.conf is screewed.
[05:41] <devilz_> not like a root
[05:41] <Renski> devilz_: do you want the user to 'own' the folder?
[05:42] <deeptz> kzar:can i install build-essentail from the dowloaded CD
[05:42] <Rawplayer> RE
[05:42] <Renski> chown user /home/user/moviz -R
[05:42] <Renski> ^ like that
[05:42] <devilz_> ok
[05:42] <devilz_> ty
[05:42] <Sirius_kr> Okay i changed the driver to the fglrx and now xorg.0.log says load Module Failure ??? The fglrx module is running tho ????
[05:42] <Kzar[dot] net> deeptz: maybe, don't know.
[05:43] <Renski> devilz_: you should learn how permissions work, google for chown and chmod when you have the time
[05:43] <trappist> or man for them
[05:43] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE
[05:43] <Kzar[dot] net> devilz_: just have a try
[05:43] <Renski> yes, man chown, and man chmod brings up the unix manauls for these commands
[05:44] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net:
[05:44] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: what does that do
[05:45] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: that extracts Error lines from your Xorg.0.log file
[05:45] <devilz_> btw guys
[05:45] <devilz_> can you tell me how can i have kde
[05:45] <devilz_> on ubuntu
[05:45] <devilz_> and i want to remove gnome
[05:45] <gnomefreak> is there a run command to runa  script?
[05:45] <Sirius_kr> well it gave me what it looks like is a definition for each error lol
[05:45] <Kzar[dot] net> devilz_: kubuntu :)
[05:46] <devilz_> well with kubunt
[05:46] <devilz_> is it possible to download just kde packages
[05:46] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: it will show you each error xorg has occured.
[05:46] <pepsi> hmf
[05:46] <pepsi> odd
[05:46] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: It also says Duplicate Symbol rol_long found ??
[05:46] <pepsi> control-alt sequences stopped working
[05:46] <devilz_> gnomefreak, sh script :)
[05:47] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: just have a look at first error first.
[05:47] <gnomefreak> no such file or directory :( i saved it
[05:47] <_mars> hi all
[05:48] <_mars> some one play america's army ?
[05:48] <gfish> how do i stop the router changing my ip all the time
[05:48] <gnomefreak> im trying to run this script without cron i saved it as termbackgrounds.sh with anjuta to my home folder http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=77
[05:48] <devilz_> gnomefreak, or you can chmod 755 & ./scrip
[05:49] <devilz_> chmod 755 scipt
[05:49] <gnomefreak> now i just need to run it :(
[05:50] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: it says Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extenstions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": mp sybols found ????
[05:50] <seww> Kzar[dot] net, thanks now it works fine
[05:50] <Sirius_kr> mp = no *
[05:50] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: next one please :)
[05:50] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: same thing but the file is now norm instiad of clip
[05:51] <seww> now i cant play quake3 because it say "Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem", how do i fix that?
[05:52] <gfish> how can i stop my ip changing
[05:53] <JonnyRo> gfish: going to need to be a tiny bit more specific.
[05:53] <gfish> ok
[05:53] <seww> no one plays quake3?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> gfish,  if you have a dynamic ip you need to get it changed to static
[05:53] <JonnyRo> gfish: are you on a local network, or on the internet directly
[05:53] <Kzar[dot] net> seww: duno.
[05:53] <seww> Kzar[dot] net, ok
[05:53] <gfish> JonnyRo, im on a network and everytime i turn the pc on my ip adress changes
[05:54] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: same thing but the file is now norm instiad of clip
[05:54] <trappist> gfish: set up a static lease on your dhcp server
[05:54] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: and the one after that is same thing but the file is now xform instaid of norm
[05:54] <JonnyRo> gfish: do you know what the DHCP address range is for your network?  To configure a static you will want to make sure you are not using an ip in this range, or use a static mapping as trappist suggested (via your MAC address)
[05:54] <JonnyRo> gfish: what router do you have
[05:54] <JonnyRo> gfish: linksys? D-Link?
[05:54] <gfish> JonnyRo, its linksys
[05:55] <JonnyRo> gfish: are you using the stock linksys firmware or OpenWRT(openwrt.org)
[05:55] <gfish> JonnyRo, its stock
[05:55] <JonnyRo> gfish: the stock linksys firmware wont let you specify static mappings, but you can use the web admin panel to figure out what address range it uses
[05:55] <arnducky> OpeWRT ?!?
[05:55] <JonnyRo> gfish: and pick an IP out of that range
[05:55] <strokey> gnomefreak
[05:56] <strokey> thanks for the suggestion of powerline adapters
[05:56] <strokey> they look awsome
[05:56] <JonnyRo> arnducky: now they have a web interface where you can specify static mappings
[05:56] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: then is says Duplicate Symbol rol_long in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o  Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
[05:56] <JonnyRo> arnducky: i never did get the /etc/ethers syntax and all that
[05:56] <arnducky> so you can edit the a WRTG51's actual MAC table directly now?
[05:56] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: then it gives me the Fatal server error: Module load failure
[05:57] <gfish> JonnyRo, ok now what do i do
[05:57] <arnducky> etrez kewl
[05:57] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: where did you get the fglrx drivers ?
[05:57] <Kzar[dot] net> I mean, how have you installed theim ?
[05:57] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:57] <claudiu> just upgraded to kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 and nvidia wont load anymore - is there something i should have done ?
[05:57] <arnducky> only netgear used to support command line ARP before, mayvbe D-Link will follow suit
[05:58] <JonnyRo> gfish: use the network control panel in ubuntu to manually specify an ip out of that range
[05:58] <JonnyRo> gfish: i'll drop into a private message window with you real quick to explai
[05:58] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: oh, so something sucks :-/
[05:58] <Sirius_kr> Kzar[dot] net: ...
[05:58] <arnducky> (for low-end 'SOHO' products I mean -- I don't count Cisco 1800s or even 8xx as low end)
[06:00] <JonnyRo> Most places can get by with a WRT
[06:00] <JonnyRo> I use m0n0walls at work
[06:00] <JonnyRo> m0n0.ch/wall
[06:00] <JonnyRo> badass
[06:00] <JonnyRo> The big killer though is that they dont do vpn with dynamic IP
[06:00] <JonnyRo> For that i use a netgear FVS318, but they are slow as hell
[06:01] <Terminus> claudiu, updated a few hours ago myself... update seems screwed up. had to clean up everything and make sure that the correct version of the restricted modules were installed.
[06:01] <devilz_> so can someone tell me how-to install kde on ubuntu
[06:02] <arnducky> JonnyRo, try the 6xx series
[06:02] <JonnyRo> arnducky: from netgear?
[06:02] <arnducky> yep
[06:02] <Riddell> devilz_: kubuntu.org/faq.php
[06:02] <claudiu> Terminus: seems like this dapper IS tricky, what should we do in order to get latest software versions anyway but without problems like this ?
[06:03] <usuario> what is dapper IS?
[06:03] <arnducky> Netgear RR use aLinux kernel, BTW  =)
[06:03] <Terminus> claudiu, oh... sorry. i don't use dapper. :p
[06:03] <Terminus> claudiu, if you don't like problems, you shouldn't be using dapper.
[06:04] <usuario> what is dapper
[06:04] <Terminus> usuario, the development tree for ubuntu.
[06:04] <arnducky> Dapper Drake is the next release of Ubuntu scheduled for 04.2006 and is in testin gnow.
[06:05] <claudiu> Terminus: i dont want problems, but i would like to get newest versions of kde and stuff, WHAT SHOULD I DO ?
[06:05] <airox> Hi.
[06:05] <seww> how do i get OpenGL to work?
[06:05] <sklav> why the huge names for releases?
[06:05] <arnducky> claudiu, Kubuntu uses 3.4.3 which is pretty new
[06:05] <Terminus> claudiu, using dapper is sort of equivalent to using beta software. go with breezy. even that isn't really perfect.
[06:05] <sklav> what ever happened to single cool names
[06:05] <sklav> :)
[06:06] <Terminus> arnducky, my bad... in my mind i was equating it to sid. hehe
[06:06] <usuario> dapper is used to be compiled?
[06:06] <arnducky> claudiu, OR YOU oopscaps can compile it from source on freedesktop.org if you*must* have the bleeding edge
[06:06] <airox> I've got a CPU speedstep problem. I'm looking at /proc/cpuinfo and see my processor is running at 419MHz, but is supposed to be running at 850MHz. What could be wrong or how would I change this ?
[06:06] <ArDz> dites y'a une cmd pr se logger sur DALnet?
[06:06] <claudiu> Terminus: should i comment out dapper in sources list ? and what next to revert to breezy ?
[06:07] <Amaranth> sklav: 5.10 is a huge name?
[06:07] <seww> how do i get OpenGL to work?
[06:07] <Terminus> claudiu, wouldn't know. i'm no expert. i've never done downgrades before.
[06:07] <arnducky> usuario, gcc4.x is ANSI C the compiler that 5.10 uses
[06:07] <airox> seww: What video card do you got ?
[06:07] <seww> airox, a nvidia
[06:07] <Terminus> seww, if have an nvidia sound card, you need nvidia-glx. otherwise, can't help you.
[06:07] <claudiu> can anyone guide me to downgrade to breezy ?
[06:08] <seww> Terminus, hmm don't know about the soundcard... sitting on a laptop
[06:08] <Amaranth> claudiu: format and reinstall
[06:08] <airox> seww: There a tons of guides on ubuntuforums.org about it. Read one.
[06:08] <Terminus> seww, whoops... vid card i mean. i'm beat. hehe
[06:08] <seww> airox, ok
[06:08] <primoturbo> I need some help, I installed fglrx 8.16.20, it works fine for 3d. However all my video is no pixelated, Totem, Mplayer, VLC. Any ideas?
[06:08] <salva> haaa
[06:08] <salva> hola gente
[06:08] <claudiu> Amaranth: ummm, anyone else ?
[06:08] <airox> seww: I ment vid card also ;)
[06:08] <salva> enas tardeeees
[06:08] <arnducky> Amaranth, can't he jsut change his source.list and revert the versions of all installed packages?
[06:08] <primoturbo> is now*
[06:09] <salva> uops
[06:09] <Amaranth> arnducky: this close to breezy release maybe
[06:09] <salva> this is an english chanel
[06:09] <salva> ups
[06:09] <arnducky> that seems... drastic
[06:09] <salva> i'm lost
[06:09] <salva> hahahah
[06:09] <primoturbo> Did anyone else have pixelated video after installing fglrx driver for ATI cards? I've tried mpeg, avi and real player and they are all pixelated
[06:09] <claudiu> Amaranth: when is dapper going to be released ?
[06:09] <jelle> salva: lol.... it's a big world out there...
[06:09] <arnducky> JonnyRo, re: your nick: are yo a wannabe Romulan?  ;-)
[06:10] <Amaranth> claudiu: Hopefully april of 2006 but they might push it back to may to get more testing done.
[06:10] <salva> yep
[06:10] <salva> sure
[06:10] <salva> but i'm a newbe with ubuntu+sql
[06:10] <salva> i'm looking for some help
[06:10] <airox> Hmm..
[06:11] <Amaranth> salva: Don't ask to ask, just ask your question and see if someone can help. :)
[06:11] <claudiu> Amaranth: maybe i should downgrade me kernel and lock it ? is it possible in ubuntu ?
[06:11] <airox> Starting powernowd again reports me that CPU frequency scaling is not supported.
[06:11] <devilz_> can someone tell me how what should i to sources.list
[06:11] <salva> shit
[06:11] <devilz_> to have latest stable versions of packages
[06:11] <salva> sorry for my english
[06:11] <arnducky> primoturbo, I found the XFree86 and the Gatos drivers to be good with playback
[06:11] <airox> It's a pentium 3.
[06:11] <Amaranth> claudiu: You didn't install the 2.6.15 dapper kernel, did you?
[06:11] <salva> let's go
[06:11] <airox> Laptop.
[06:11] <arnducky> What ATI card do you have?
[06:12] <salva> i'm trying to enter on phpmyandmin trough localhost
[06:12] <salva> but when i'm click the link
[06:12] <arnducky> 2.6.15-1-k7... mmmmm....
[06:12] <Amaranth> devilz_: If you have ubuntu 5.10 (breezy) you have the latest stable versions.
[06:12] <claudiu> Amaranth: its a 2.6.12-10-k7
[06:12] <Amaranth> claudiu: That's the one in breezy, isn't it?
[06:12] <chrissturm> in what package is /etc/init.d/pcmcia ?
[06:12] <salva> just start the download menu of "index.php"
[06:12] <airox> :(
[06:12] <Amaranth> !info linux-k7
[06:12] <primoturbo> arnducky: Do they have 3d support?
[06:12] <ubotu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[06:12] <nillas> anyone knows any ways to install waste in ubuntu?
[06:12] <devilz_> Amaranth, yes but i cannot install few packages
[06:12] <devilz_> for eg skype
[06:12] <Amaranth> err, i don't know how to translate those
[06:13] <devilz_> it says i dont have it
[06:13] <primoturbo> Because the ATI drivers work fine with out 3d but fglrx is good for 3d but get's my videos all pixelated
[06:13] <arnducky> primoturbo, gatos does
[06:13] <Amaranth> devilz_: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[06:13] <primoturbo> where do I get these drivers?
[06:13] <devilz_> no?
[06:13] <devilz_> its default
[06:13] <primoturbo> is there a guide to install them?
[06:13] <Amaranth> !tell devilz_ about repos
[06:13] <Echelon-H> has anyone ever had any success running Ventrilo?
[06:13] <devilz_> Amaranth, but now i; installing kde
[06:13] <devilz_> then i will have kubuntu?
[06:13] <Amaranth> devilz_: ubotu just PMed you what you need.
[06:13] <arnducky> but you're right, primoturbo I ran em under 2D for mpeg stuff
[06:14] <Amaranth> devilz_: If you install kubuntu-desktop you have kubuntu.
[06:14] <claudiu> Amaranth: dont know i guess so ... someone in kubuntu channel says so
[06:14] <devilz_> i'm justa installing it
[06:14] <usuario> How many computers may have the whole world?
[06:14] <devilz_> ;)
[06:14] <manulite> Hello, i'd like to give ubuntu a test drive on my thinkpad which is already running SuSE10, SuSe 9.3 and winxp. I intend to replace Suse9.3 with ubuntu but i wanted to ask whether that will not give me issues
[06:15] <Amaranth> manulite: shouldn't be a problem
[06:15] <Amaranth> hey Davey
[06:15] <dr_willis> manulite,  what kind of issues are you worried about?
[06:15] <salva> no one answer my question?
[06:15] <Davey> Hey Amaranth
[06:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu 5.10 works very well on my laptop
[06:15] <manulite> issues like failing to boot into other OSes after install
[06:15] <Kzar[dot] net> dr_willis: +1 on my nearlly 10 years old laptop
[06:16] <dr_willis> 10 yrs old? tht thing must weigh like 80 lbs.
[06:16] <dr_willis> :P
[06:16] <ArDz> lbs =?
[06:16] <Kzar[dot] net> dr_willis: oh, do you think so ?
[06:16] <navarone> lbs=popunds weight
[06:16] <dr_willis> not sure what that is in Kilo. :P
[06:17] <dr_willis> manulite,  that would be a grub config issue. and should be easially fixed.
[06:17] <manulite> dr_willis: will i need to format the existing partition?
[06:17] <dr_willis> manulite,  which exiting partition?
[06:17] <jenda> Hi again. I tried installing Breezy on a friend's (aged) PC, and it crashed (repeatedly) at 41% of the "loading partitioner" section, the only message being "killed" repeated gazillion times. Any idea please?
[06:17] <usuario> what is the name of the company to make LCDs?
[06:18] <manulite> dr_willis: the one with suse 9.3 which i need to replace?
[06:18] <Kzar[dot] net> dr_willis: oh, ooops, it's only 3 years old
[06:18] <jenda> And I do not think the CD's the problem. It was a shipit, though I only had one on hand so I couldn't really verify that...
[06:18] <Kzar[dot] net> and only weight 2.8 lbs
[06:18] <Kzar[dot] net> Dell X200 :)
[06:18] <devilz_> Amaranth, i just install kde-desktop, kde-core, kde
[06:18] <mz2> is there a specific channel for the development version users?
[06:18] <mauro> hello I have a problem when i installed samba i can see the server but only the other client Why
[06:18] <navarone> manulite> as long as you specify the proper mount point during install ubuntu should affect the partiotns and distro you are over writing
[06:18] <devilz_> and rebooted pc
[06:19] <mz2> the nvidia driver seems to have stopped working
[06:19] <devilz_> and still dont have kubunu
[06:19] <devilz_> kubuntu
[06:19] <mz2> in dapper
[06:19] <claudiu> mz2: same problem here
[06:19] <Amaranth> devilz_: That'll work but it won't be the full kubuntu setup.
[06:19] <Kzar[dot] net> devilz_: kde-desktop doesn"t care for a rightly installer Xorg :)
[06:19] <navarone> devilz> when you boot you should get and option to decide which desktop enviro to use
[06:20] <mz2> claudiu: have you found anything interesting in any logs?
[06:20] <devilz_> hehe
[06:20] <claudiu> mz2: look here...
[06:20] <devilz_> navarone, i dont get it
[06:20] <devilz_> ;(
[06:20] <claudiu> mz2: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/437888
[06:20] <mz2> claudiu: i got the impression that the nvidia module itself would have just been mysteriously zapped away :)
[06:20] <mz2> ok will have a look
[06:20] <Kzar[dot] net> devilz_: so first, repair your Xorg settings
[06:20] <claudiu> mz2: i suspect we should reconfigure something or delete something ....
[06:21] <mz2> claudiu: exactly
[06:21] <mz2> claudiu: i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which didn't fix it
[06:21] <claudiu> mz2: modprobe nvidia works though
[06:21] <devilz_> Kzar[dot] net, how?
[06:21] <usuario> How many nationalities are the users of this channel from?
[06:21] <Kzar[dot] net> devilz_: depnds on what is the error :)
[06:21] <mz2> claudiu: yes, i noticed that too, doesn't seem to give anything nasty to the system log either
[06:21] <claudiu> mz2: i reconfigured nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules - NO LUCK
[06:22] <mz2> crap
[06:22] <manulite> hmm, ok i'll give it a short, later tonight
[06:22] <arnducky> Jenda how much RAM int he target system?
[06:22] <mz2> claudiu: do you wanna try compiling it? :)
[06:22] <jenda> arnducky: I was afraid you'd ask that. :) 64 Megs.
[06:23] <arnducky> that might be why check ubuto.com
[06:23] <claudiu> mz2: hmmm. dont think so. just came here from gentoo. seems like compiling a kernel in ubuntu is a tremedous adventure
[06:23] <johny> hai all
[06:24] <usuario> hi
[06:24] <ubuntu> hi johny
[06:24] <johny> i have a question
[06:24] <johny> does any one have a netopia 3342  ?
[06:24] <devilz_> this is weird
[06:24] <arnducky> claudiu, if you can do it in Gentoo, you know how to read and follow docs...
[06:24] <usuario> what is a netopia 3342?
[06:24] <johny> an adsl
[06:24] <johny> modem.....
[06:24] <mz2> claudiu: didn't mean the whole kernel (and that is very easy in ubuntu as well)
[06:25] <johny> i havent migrated yet cause the computer wont recognize it
[06:25] <claudiu> arnducky: maybe a script would be a great idea for all users from posterity ?
[06:25] <johny> so i wont be able to surf
[06:25] <mz2> just the nvidia 7676 driver (glx part + kernel module) from nvidia.com
[06:25] <jenda> arnducky: Thx - I'll check it out.
[06:25] <ubuntu> have you tried another distro
[06:25] <sklav> johny i had a friend who had that modem the netopia
[06:25] <johny> ??
[06:25] <johny> 3342 ?
[06:25] <johny> what did he do ?
[06:26] <usuario> that can be a hardware problem?
[06:26] <johny> i don't want to saty with XP, but i sure need internet
[06:26] <johny> yep
[06:26] <johny> i had redhat linux 9
[06:26] <devilz_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[06:26] <devilz_> they explained vert poor
[06:26] <johny> installed on my pc
[06:26] <devilz_> very
[06:26] <johny> it didnt reconiize the modem
[06:26] <claudiu> mz2: maybe a kernel downgrade will do it ?
[06:26] <jgw> how do i get around the "installing grub boot loader" hang during breezy install on a sata drive?
[06:27] <sklav> is your modem internal pci and if so what is its chipset?
[06:27] <gfish> JonnyRo, i did what u said whats next
[06:27] <johny> http://www.netopia.com/equipment/pdf/spec/3342.pdf
[06:28] <claudiu> mz2: lets unite our forces
[06:28] <claudiu> :D
[06:28] <johny> those fukers of netopia dont deliver a linux driver
[06:28] <mz2> claudiu: hardly so, the kernel wasn't updated between the boots when it worked and didn't work
[06:28] <ubuntu> hee hee johny
[06:28] <jedediah> Is there an easy way to upgrade from Hoary to Badger?
[06:28] <mz2> the main big thing i at least updated before the mysterious hiccup was a load of X.org packages
[06:28] <claudiu> mz2: didnt quite get it .. say it clearer please
[06:28] <ubuntu> try mepis johny
[06:28] <johny> ?????
[06:29] <johny> what's that ?
[06:29] <ubuntu> www.mepis.org
[06:29] <claudiu> mz2: i am pretty sure it wasnt the xorgs
[06:29] <augustin_> hello
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jedediah about upgrade
[06:29] <claudiu> mz2: i upgraded them AFTER this nvidia problem
[06:29] <usuario> hello augustin_
[06:29] <jgw> how do i get around the "installing grub boot loader" hang during breezy install on a sata drive?
[06:29] <bur[n] er> !tell jedediah about BreezyUpgrade
[06:29] <johny> already there
[06:29] <chrissturm> mz2: i think the nvidia driver isnt compatible to the new modular xorg that dapper has now
[06:29] <mz2> claudiu: that is, no point in downgrading kernel as 1) the kernel module still seems to be loaded, and 2) the kernel package wasn't updated between the bootup time when X still worked with the nvidia driver and the bootup time when it stopped working
[06:30] <jedediah> thanks
[06:30] <augustin_> i have a problem with my WIFI network. my wifi card is supposed to get an IP frmo my router (DHCP), but when i try to bring it up, it says "no DHCPOFFERS received"
[06:30] <gfish> how do i stop my ip adress changing
[06:30] <gnomefreak> yw jedediah
[06:30] <johny> i tipped netopia and only 2 answers came from it
[06:30] <augustin_> anyone knows why ?
[06:30] <claudiu> mz2: you mean you suspect something else ?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> gfish,  how often does it change?
[06:30] <mz2> chrissturm: as far as i understood, breezy already has modular X11 (at least to some extent)
[06:30] <bur[n] er> augustin_: restart your router?
[06:30] <Jonne> small question: what will be improved in xorg 7.0? is there any place i can find that?
[06:30] <gfish> gnomefreak, every time i restart pc
[06:30] <mz2> claudiu: it's X.org, not the kernel.
[06:30] <augustin_> bur[n] er the router works fine for the other 2 Windows workstations
[06:31] <usuario> johny ask the question to the engineers of silicon valley
[06:31] <bur[n] er> augustin_: you sure you're connected to the router on your linux box?
[06:31] <claudiu> mz2: well well shouldnt there be an install log somewhere ?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> gfish, call your isp and find out if they set it to do that
[06:31] <bur[n] er> augustin_: using WEP or WPA by chance?  MAC address filtering?
[06:31] <highvoltage> why does ubunyu have a filesize limit og 2GB?
[06:31] <highvoltage> s/ubunyu/ubuntu
[06:31] <gfish> gnomefreak, its the router what does it
[06:31] <bur[n] er> highvoltage: it doesn't... fat32 does
[06:31] <dr_willis> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/
[06:31] <airox> What is /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq ?
[06:32] <augustin_> bur[n] er i can see the network when i do iwlist, what can i do more, if it doesn't want to give me an IP through DHCP ?
[06:32] <chrissturm> mz2: but yesterdays x update brought the xorg 7 pre release to dapper and i dont know if the properitary nvidia drivers work with that
[06:32] <airox> It reports 850000.
[06:32] <stryker> hello
[06:32] <airox> That's the correct value.
[06:32] <mz2> which is not nice, as there's lots of packages that need to be downgraded, and if you decide to wait for nvidia to release something that's compatible with this thing (or for someone to make a patch somewhere) it can take some time :)
[06:32] <gnomefreak> gfish,  ok the router is changing you ip is this causing a problems runnign something?
[06:32] <augustin_> bur[n] er it's WEP
[06:32] <bur[n] er> augustin_: u need to set up the WEP key if you use one
[06:32] <airox> But still /proc/cpuinfo isn't really showing up the real valuea.
[06:32] <airox> Which to trust ?
[06:32] <augustin_> bur[n] er i have
[06:32] <ubuntu> guys anybody had issues with ubuntu hanging?
[06:32] <mz2> chrissturm: yes, i agree, that is the reason. i was just trying to be a wise arse by saying that it's not the modularity that's strictly new :)
[06:32] <bur[n] er> augustin_: try it without WEP to see if it works :)
[06:32] <augustin_> ok will try
[06:33] <highvoltage> bur[n] er: i have a reiserfs partition, and when i tar to it, i get a message "File size limit exceeded"
[06:33] <gfish> gnomefreak, im using bittornado and i cant get connectable when the router does that
[06:33] <gnomefreak> gfish,  you routers ip address should never change it might mask the pcs ip tho
[06:33] <ubuntu> I have serched the forum and came back with must be bad network card
[06:33] <highvoltage> it did the same with an ext3 volume
[06:33] <chrissturm> mz2: if that helps you to get over the fact that you dont have 3d accel right now, thats fine with me :)
[06:33] <johny> ??? really ?
[06:33] <highvoltage> yes, really.
[06:33] <mz2> chrissturm: yes, just turn the knife in the wound :)
[06:34] <bur[n] er> highvoltage: http://linuxreviews.org/sysadmin/filesystems/
[06:34] <gfish> gnomefreak, the routers ip stays the same it changes my pc's ip
[06:34] <augustin_> bur[n] er i'm not sure how i can disable it on my router though
[06:34] <CarstenP> is there a tool for showing CPU temperature?
[06:34] <stryker> Good morning. I'm trying to install drivers for my wireless card and am having some trouble. Is there someone that could assist me?
[06:34] <chrissturm> mz2: hehe. just wanted to cheer you up :D
[06:34] <LjL> CarstenP: apt-cache search sensor
[06:34] <bur[n] er> augustin_: what kind of router?
[06:34] <PinTo> i managed to compile and install my kernel..but failed on the last step lilo.conf/drub.conf didnt work...now my Os is scwd n e suggestions
[06:34] <gnomefreak> gfish,  there should be a setting in the routers config area normally its the routers ip that is the address you should beable to change that in there if you cant than call them they will walk you throught it
[06:34] <chrissturm> anyone know in what package /etc/init.d/pcmcia is?
[06:35] <augustin_> bur[n] er Wanadoo's Livebox, Inventel chipset (french ISP)
[06:35] <highvoltage> bur[n] er: that doesn't help me much, something i'm missing?
[06:35] <bur[n] er> augustin_: uhhhhh... i have no idea ;)
[06:35] <augustin_> bur[n] er i assumed so =P
[06:35] <LjL> chrissturm: pcmcia-cs
[06:35] <primoturbo> Hey guys, can someone please help me with a video pixelation problem. I have outlined it in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=520009#post520009 and provided a screenshot. Thanks
[06:35] <bur[n] er> highvoltage: i think tar might have a filesize limit... regardless of filesystem
[06:35] <nickrud> chrissturm, dpkg -S  /etc/init.d/pcmcia
[06:35] <aridese> hi guys, i'm having a problem with ubuntu -- whenever X launches, in 5-30 seconds the mouse stops working and the system hangs
[06:35] <Morrowyn> morning
[06:35] <PinTo> why arent these apps ready to go off base install?
[06:35] <jgw> anyone here successfully install breezy on an sata-only system?
[06:35] <gnomefreak> gfish,  this is also not a ubuntu issue #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to ask or try #name of you router  see if they can help
[06:36] <chrissturm> nickrud, thx. i was trying apt-file search but that didnt work
[06:36] <augustin_> bur[n] er is there a way to try using a static IP ? when i tried giving one, it wouldn't ping the gateway either
[06:36] <PinTo> <---needs a format
[06:36] <aridese> jgw: i have, although your mileage may vary if you used a different SATA controller
[06:36] <highvoltage> bur[n] er: aaaah
[06:36] <chrissturm> i removed the pcmcia-cs package but it still got started. maybe i need to purge it :)
[06:36] <PinTo> can some1 help me out
[06:36] <bur[n] er> augustin_: that won't work if you're not authenticated using WEP
[06:36] <aridese> jgw: in my experience, linux doesn't play well with cutting-edge hardware
[06:36] <highvoltage> bur[n] er: i've tarred lots of 9GB files though
[06:36] <jgw> i have an A8N with a VIA SATA controller
[06:37] <jgw> its not cutting edge, its old
[06:37] <augustin_> bur[n] er if i provide the correct WEP key, wouldn't that be enough ? the key is 128 bits, should i specify it somewhere ?
[06:37] <sklav> VIA SATA Controller is not well supoported
[06:37] <usuario> Is there a robot that can be used to prune the trees?
[06:37] <aridese> heh, for linux anything < 3 years == cutting edge :)
[06:37] <sklav> ICH5 is intels sata controller and it works flawlessly
[06:37] <claudiu> mz2: i hereby announce you i will be borrowing a cdrom unit to reinstall ubuntu
[06:37] <bur[n] er> highvoltage: well.. i dunno, i was googling, but 2 gig seems to be a filesystem issue so far... though reiser shouldn't be a problem :\  I'm stumped
[06:38] <aridese> i have a dfi with an nforce4 SATA controller, didnt work for a couple of months until someone decided to support it
[06:38] <bur[n] er> augustin_: you should specify it somewhere.. u can use the "network-admin" tool to do so.. alt+f2, network-admin
[06:38] <sklav> something to do with the SouthBridge chipset and the VIA SATA Controller
[06:38] <augustin_> hmmm... i can smell the odor of reinstallation of ubuntu coming near...
[06:39] <usuario> Is there somebody from Michigan?
[06:39] <sklav> but im going back about 1 year and a half so it might be supported now
[06:39] <aridese> does anyone have an idea why X would hang ~30 seconds after boot?
[06:39] <augustin_> bur[n] er do you know of a way to clean all the network config, tweaking, etc, so that i can start afresh ?
[06:39] <sklav> aridese, i had that issue once and it was related to my Videocard being bad
[06:39] <esher> hi
[06:39] <PinTo> man i 'am haveing a bad day
[06:39] <bur[n] er> augustin_: /etc/network/interfaces is your config file... just try using "network-admin" first though
[06:39] <aridese> sklav: what video card did you have, and how'd you fix it?
[06:39] <esher> how can i setup vncserver to start with kde and not with gnome ? thanx
[06:40] <sklav> aridese i had a savage 4 16megs card and the card was defective
[06:40] <sklav> i changed it
[06:40] <sklav> the replacement worked flawlesslly
[06:40] <aridese> sklav heh i have a nvidia 6800GT 256 megs and i'd be pretty upset if it was defective :)
[06:40] <borgista> A quick question: Are the MadWiFi drivers as current in AMD64 as they are in i386 in Breezy?
[06:40] <aridese> how'd you confirm that it was the video card?
[06:40] <augustin_> bur[n] er the thing is, i had other adapters installed before installing the router, so i'd like to start again with a correct /etc/network/interfaces, without any leftovers...
[06:40] <sklav> aridese
[06:41] <sklav> are you using the nvidia drivers?
[06:41] <sklav> or are u using nv default xord driver?
[06:41] <aridese> i haven't installed them - i think default
[06:41] <sklav> that might be your issue
[06:41] <borgista> A quick question: Are the MadWiFi drivers as current in AMD64 as they are in i386 in Breezy? Or can I use i386 drivers in AMD64?
[06:41] <sklav> the 6800GT works somewhat differently
[06:41] <sklav> i read somewhere you need thye nvidia drivers fo it work properly
[06:41] <PinTo> i cant understand this ...coz i was prompted to add grub to bootloader ?
[06:42] <Kzar[dot] net> does anyone use VLC for streaming out video capture ?
[06:42] <aridese> i see. can i install the nvidia drivers through the package manager?
[06:42] <sklav> just do apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:42] <Kzar[dot] net> (I do, but I juste want to have some other people user experience)
[06:42] <bur[n] er> augustin_: do what ya want ;)
[06:42] <PinTo> i boot ubuntu or xp from the same bootscreen
[06:42] <aridese> ok - thank you very much!
[06:42] <sklav> and it will list all the deps just say Y and you good
[06:42] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[06:42] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:42] <primoturbo> what's a quick way to restart X ?
[06:42] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X
[06:42] <primoturbo> how do I return to it after?
[06:42] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: it does it automagically
[06:42] <LjL> primoturbo: or /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:43] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: if not... 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[06:43] <primoturbo> how come I always go to console
[06:43] <primoturbo> when Id o that
[06:43] <primoturbo> then I have to login
[06:43] <primoturbo> and when I try startx it wont let me
[06:43] <primoturbo> so I have to reboot
[06:43] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: timing must be off... try starting gdm again
[06:43] <LjL> primoturbo: you use startx to start you X?
[06:43] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: gdm == loginn screen and better than startx
[06:43] <primoturbo> okay
[06:43] <LjL> sudo aptitude install gdm
[06:44] <primoturbo> but ctrl alt + backsapce is supposed to restart x ?
[06:44] <primoturbo> not shut it down
[06:44] <sklav> primoturbo, try alt+F7
[06:44] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: right
[06:44] <primoturbo> alt f7?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> startx command brings you into your defaul if you have kde set as default startX will bring you there
[06:44] <ubuntulnx> is there anyway to install the mplayer package without making it the default player?
[06:44] <LjL> primoturbo: no, it's supposed to shut it down, in general. but in ubuntu, it's supposed to restart it, as GDM or KDM will take care of it
[06:44] <primoturbo> I'm on gnome
[06:44] <primoturbo> let me try
[06:44] <plumb> hello...I'm trying to install 5.10 on an older Pentium II with an intel motherboard.  It fails with a debootstrap error 2.  It also suggests looking at the log in .target/var/log/bootstrap.log but no such log exists.  Any suggestions?  TIA
[06:45] <gnomefreak> you can restartx by logging out and back in :(
[06:45] <gfish> how do i stop my router from changing my ip adress
[06:45] <gnomefreak> safest way
[06:45] <sklav> gfish, stop using dhcp
[06:45] <sklav> setup static ip on your system with a default gw using the routers ip
[06:45] <bur[n] er> gfish: use address reservation in your router... or... set a static IP on your computer
[06:46] <Sirius_kr> %_% xorg.0.log -> Error load Module Failure ??  -> lsmod | grep fglrx  says its running ?? fresh install  ( ati Driver doesnt work either )
[06:46] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: that doesn't restart x... logging out that is
[06:46] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er,  why doesnt it? you log out of X and it restarts it
[06:47] <gfish> sklav, will this make any difference to anything at all
[06:47] <bur[n] er> uhh... log out of X?  how do you do that?  you can log out of gnome, but not X
[06:47] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: if you log out of gnome, X is still running... you need to restart gdm or kdm or whatever your login manager is to restart x
[06:47] <ubuntulnx> is there anyway to install the mplayer package without making it the default player?
[06:48] <Sirius_kr> %_% xorg.0.log -> Error load Module Failure ??  -> lsmod | grep fglrx  says its running ?? fresh install  ( ati Driver doesnt work either )
[06:48] <mz2> claudiu: why ever did you even go straight into dapper if you haven't used ubuntu before? :)
[06:48] <ooPo> ctrl-alt-backspace kills X and it'll restart automatically
[06:48] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er,  im sorry i was thinking reboot it came out wrong sorry
[06:48] <primoturbo> ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't restart x for me
[06:48] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: aww :)
[06:48] <primoturbo> when I press it I see a login, text-based
[06:48] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: that gdm restart works right?
[06:48] <primoturbo> then I logged in
[06:48] <primoturbo> nope
[06:49] <primoturbo> i typed gdm
[06:49] <primoturbo> and it said it's already running it
[06:49] <primoturbo> I tried alt f7
[06:49] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  start gdm is the command not just gdm
[06:49] <ooPo> killall gdm, then rerun it
[06:49] <gfish> sklav, will this effect anything
[06:49] <primoturbo> and all it did is switch tty7
[06:49] <primoturbo> okay
[06:49] <Sirius_kr> %_% xorg.0.log -> Error load Module Failure ??  -> lsmod | grep fglrx  says its running ?? fresh install  ( ati Driver doesnt work either )
[06:49] <primoturbo> well anyway I tried startx and I got a black screen
[06:49] <primoturbo> then I rebooted
[06:49] <primoturbo> does yout alt + ctrl + bs restart x?
[06:50] <ooPo> you're trying to run fglrx?
[06:50] <primoturbo> who me?
[06:50] <Sirius_kr> i am
[06:50] <ooPo> both of you :)
[06:50] <primoturbo> not me
[06:50] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: mine does about 50% of teh time
[06:50] <primoturbo> that's messed up
[06:50] <gfish> will turning dhcp off on my router effect anything
[06:50] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  at the black screen you will see login type startx or type start gdm
[06:50] <Sirius_kr> ati doesnt run at all and fglrx gives me stupid errors
[06:50] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: did you try that "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" ??
[06:50] <primoturbo> nope
[06:50] <bur[n] er> primoturbo: it'll work, i promise
[06:51] <primoturbo> alright
[06:51] <ooPo> Sirius: Did you try following this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[06:51] <plumb> Can anybody here help with an Ubuntu install problem?
[06:51] <jenda> arnducky: There is no uboto.com
[06:51] <Sirius_kr> im in a command like ooPo i cant view websites
[06:51] <ooPo> ok
[06:51] <Sirius_kr> line *
[06:51] <ooPo> Sirius: Can you explain what you've done so far, then?
[06:51] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er,  whats the difference between that command and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart command?
[06:52] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: nothing :)
[06:52] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty bur[n] er  :)
[06:52] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: my way, you don't have to type the full path though
[06:52] <primoturbo> did not work
[06:52] <Kzar[dot] net> Sirius_kr: of course you can surf the web without X !! sudo apt-get install links2
[06:52] <primoturbo> it did exactly what ctrl + alt + bs did which is kill x
[06:52] <primoturbo> but nto restart it
[06:52] <yatesy> Kzar[dot] net: pfft, telnet :P
[06:52] <primoturbo> I tried start gdm
[06:52] <gfish> bur[n] er, will turning dhcp off in the router give me a set ip adress and not mess anything up
[06:52] <primoturbo> it said something about bash
[06:52] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  if you are on a black screen than X has shut down
[06:52] <primoturbo> then I did killall gdm
[06:53] <primoturbo> then gdm
[06:53] <Kzar[dot] net> yatesy: pfff... nerd boy :)
[06:53] <primoturbo> and got back
[06:53] <yatesy> :P
[06:53] <Kzar[dot] net> ;-)
[06:53] <Sirius_kr> installed ubuntu i changed repositories to universe did apt-get update then sence ati driver crashes me to command line also i had to apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx then i loaded the module then i change "ati" to "fglrx" in xorg.conf then i Restarted and still nothing.... oopo ?
[06:53] <plumb> hello...I'm trying to install 5.10 on an older Pentium II with an intel motherboard.  It fails with a debootstrap error 2.  It also suggests looking at the log in .target/var/log/bootstrap.log but no such log exists.  Any suggestions?  TIA
[06:53] <ooPo> Sirius: Ok, are you on an amd64?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  typing startx will start X again if it complains about permissions than sudo startx
[06:53] <Sirius_kr> ooPo yes
[06:53] <ooPo> ok, there's a bug with that which can be easily fixed :)
[06:54] <Sirius_kr> ooPo :D how ?
[06:54] <ooPo> wget http://mail3.mpr.org/mlomker/libdri.a.gz
[06:54] <primoturbo> okay that's odd, i did ctrl + alt and backspace and it restarted x this time
[06:54] <gnomefreak> plumb, sounds like a bad download
[06:54] <primoturbo> got me back to login
[06:54] <primoturbo> why doesn't it always work?
[06:54] <Kzar[dot] net> plumb : try boot options like : noacpi noscsi noapic...
[06:54] <ooPo> gunzip it, and copy it to: cp /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
[06:54] <ooPo> you may also have to uncomment int10 module in your xorg.conf
[06:54] <plumb> kzar:  what do these boot options do?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> mine stopped on debootstrap and i found out bad md5
[06:55] <Kzar[dot] net> gnomefreak: yeah, plumb: alwys md5' downloaded files before burn them.
[06:55] <primoturbo> does anyone here use anything other then kde or gnome?
[06:55] <primoturbo> and if so what do you use?
[06:55] <plumb> OK...I;ll check out the md5
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Kzar[dot] net,  i learned that log time ago alot of work trying to install bad checksum :(
[06:55] <plumb> thanks
[06:55] <gnomefreak> xfce primoturbo
[06:55] <Kzar[dot] net> plumb: thoss options disable ACPI from kernel, or SCSI. sometimes of oold hardware taht makes boot freeze/crash
[06:55] <primoturbo> is it good?
[06:56] <primoturbo> and is it fast?
[06:56] <ubuntulnx> is there anyway to install the mplayer package without making it the default player?
[06:56] <Kzar[dot] net> gnomefreak: experience makes stronger :)
[06:56] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  i enjoy it and its lighter than gnome or kde so it should run lil faster
[06:56] <plumb> Kzar: how/where can I add boot options?
[06:56] <primoturbo> gnome and kde seem slow but I have a decent machine 2.0ghz 768 ddr ram 9700 pro
[06:56] <Kzar[dot] net> ubuntulnx: this is the way install do: not making the last stuff becoming the default one.
[06:57] <gnomefreak> primoturbo, fluxbox,blackbox or any other box should be fastest due to no icons or nothing
[06:57] <ooPo> primo: xfce4 is nice and lightweight
[06:57] <Kzar[dot] net> *the last stuff installed
[06:57] <ooPo> and looks nice, too
[06:57] <Kzar[dot] net> ooPo: +1
[06:57] <primoturbo> why is windows xp so much faster?
[06:57] <primoturbo> as far as desktop environment
[06:57] <Kzar[dot] net> primoturbo: because it sucks ?
[06:57] <trappist> huh?
[06:57] <Slackwise> Uhh, Win2K is a whole lot faster than WinXP
[06:57] <Slackwise> And GNOME runs faster than WinXP
[06:57] <primoturbo> it's faster because it sucks?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  now i really have to ask what you mean by faster winxp has more lag to it than anything
[06:57] <primoturbo> no way gnome is not faster then xp
[06:58] <primoturbo> it's much more slugish i've tried it on 5 computer already
[06:58] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  it is so is kde
[06:58] <Slackwise> primoturbo: Fine, then run off and use WinXP. :P
[06:58] <primoturbo> kde is pretty slow also
[06:58] <Sirius_kr> ooPo: Uncomment or Comment Its already uncommented ?
[06:58] <primoturbo> i'm trying to understand why
[06:58] <ooPo> kde/gnome can seem slow if you don't have the proper video drivers installed
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ^5 Slackwise
[06:58] <ooPo> Sirius: comment it out so it doesn't load
[06:58] <primoturbo> gnome is currently using 118mb of ram
[06:58] <primoturbo> while running like 5 programs
[06:58] <primoturbo> windows xp uses about 120 at boot
[06:58] <primoturbo> for me at least
[06:58] <trappist> gnome and kde are gigantic pieces of feature-laden software.  that takes resources.  if you want a really fast desktop, use something lightweight like fluxbox.  if you want gobs of features, use kde or gnome, but don't cry when it's not as fast.
[06:58] <primoturbo> but it still seems faster
[06:59] <tritium> primoturbo, ooPo makes a good point.  Perhaps you've not setup your video drivers
[06:59] <Slackwise> gnomefreak: GNOME is plenty faster than WinXP on a 900MHz. For sure.
[06:59] <primoturbo> I definatley have
[06:59] <primoturbo> I can run doom3
[06:59] <tritium> primoturbo, which video card?
[06:59] <Sirius_kr> ooPo: Do i need to reboot or can i just startx ?
[06:59] <primoturbo> ati 9700 Pro
[06:59] <ooPo> Sirius: you should be able to just startx
[06:59] <tritium> primoturbo, have you setup your fglrx drivers?
[06:59] <Slackwise> And Win2K, is sadly, the fastest GUI I've ever used. @_@
[06:59] <primoturbo> yes I did
[06:59] <primoturbo> I get over 4k in glxgears
[07:00] <Manny> Slackwise, X11 is a horrible mess
[07:00] <tritium> glxgears is not a good metric to use
[07:00] <trappist> no, it's not
[07:00] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  try thinking about this if your xp desktop has no other running apps it could be pretty fast but when you start starting apps with winxp like say norton you will run at snails pace
[07:00] <ooPo> primo: is your cpu running at full speed?
[07:00] <primoturbo> listen I know they are setup because I just ran doom3 with playable framerate
[07:00] <tritium> in fact, it's not really a metric at all
[07:00] <primoturbo> see I don't use norton
[07:00] <trappist> I can get 10k in glxgears if I try, but it's not because my video card is any faster
[07:00] <dura> glxgears is only kind of usefull in full-screen.
[07:00] <Manny> trappist, I'm quoting Keith Packard from GUADEC :)
[07:01] <primoturbo> why are you trying to confince me it's faster
[07:01] <trappist> Manny: when I said no, it's not I meant about glxgears.
[07:01] <Manny> trappist, oh
[07:01] <ooPo> if he's getting over a few thousand fps in glxgears, chances are he's using a decent enough driver to eliminate that possibility
[07:01] <primoturbo> the desktop enviroment is far more sluguish in gnome
[07:01] <jenda> dura: perhaps it's best minimised. then I get most FPS :)
[07:01] <Manny> it has issues like not being monitor hotplug-capable. Architectural issues that result from an old design that didn't take into account developments on the PC
[07:01] <dura> jenda, lol
[07:01] <sirius> ooPo: why couldent you be here last night at 3 am :P thanks a ton
[07:01] <primoturbo> and i have everything setup correctly
[07:01] <ooPo> sirius: take a look at that article if you want to run the latest version too :)
[07:01] <primoturbo> when you minimize or put glxgear in the background u get like a million fps
[07:02] <trappist> primoturbo: again, gnome is huge and crammed full of features, and those require resources.  if you want a hella fast desktop, go with a lightweight window manager like fluxbox.  gnome is not for people whose top priority is a fast desktop.
[07:02] <gnomefreak> primeturbo: i was using that as example anything you have running in background on xp or any otehr desktop manager its gonna slow it down if you look at the running processes for your computer it will list i crap load of them
[07:02] <primoturbo> I'm talking about running it in foreground in the saem window it shows up
[07:02] <Manny> primoturbo, the GL performance should be absolutely comparable to windoze
[07:02] <cion> hey how do i make irc to work with gdesklets?
[07:02] <primoturbo> gl performance is about the same
[07:02] <Manny> windows guys did lot's of optimization, we'll do it as well :)
[07:02] <sirius> ooPo: link ? and also how do i kill f1 desktop which is running irc from a command prompt still i think when i started x from f2 ?
[07:02] <primoturbo> I get maybe 5 or 6 fps less in doom3
[07:02] <ooPo> sirius: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[07:02] <primoturbo> in linux
[07:02] <Manny> primoturbo, but you're talking about responsiveness in general, right?
[07:02] <ooPo> you can ctrl-alt-f1 to return the text mode window
[07:02] <primoturbo> yes
[07:02] <primoturbo> responsivness
[07:02] <ooPo> then alt-f7(I think) to get back into X
[07:03] <Sirius_kr> o neato
[07:03] <trappist> primoturbo: give fluxbox a try.
[07:03] <gnomefreak> hes running doom3 and he wonders why its slow :(
[07:03] <Sirius_kr> quit
[07:03] <primoturbo> umm
[07:03] <primoturbo> not running doom3 atm
[07:03] <primoturbo> listen to what I siad
[07:03] <gfish> can i play flac in ubuntu
[07:03] <ceciacs> ciao
[07:03] <primoturbo> I said I ran it before to test if I setup my video drivers
[07:03] <Manny> primoturbo, I know this feeling. Also take into account that the historic window toolkit is really broken compared to GTK+, for instance, wrt widget size allocations and all. Some things are way cheaper.
[07:03] <Kzar[dot] net> primoturbo: I'm player RtCW while having 620 at glxgears :)
[07:03] <Manny> also, they use hardware acceleration, like the Glitz on MacOS X
[07:03] <cion> ceciacs:ciao
[07:04] <primoturbo> pls I get 125 fps in rtcw
[07:04] <Manny> we're going towards that, widget compositing etc.
[07:04] <Manny> give use some years and we'll hopefully catch up
[07:04] <primoturbo> so the problem is with x in general?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> primoturbo,  you did not state weather you were running doom or not all you said was i get 5 or 6 less in doom
[07:04] <primoturbo> no I said it before
[07:05] <jatos> hi
[07:05] <Manny> of course, there are issues like X11 being a network-oriented canvas, thus we have extremely good remote networking caps, but no high-end performance. There are many server/client calls involved.
[07:05] <trappist> primoturbo: the problem is that gnome is heavier than windows explorer, due to an overabundance of features.
[07:05] <gfish> can i play flac in ubuntu
[07:05] <primoturbo> but the thing is it uses less ram then windows xp
[07:05] <tritium> yes, gfish
[07:05] <primoturbo> and about the same cpu
[07:05] <primoturbo> right now I'm at 1% cpu
[07:05] <primoturbo> and in windows xp about the same
[07:05] <ooPo> Doesn't gnome have a problem currently where rendering fonts is taking up a lot of cpu time?
[07:05] <primoturbo> when I try to run a program
[07:05] <sirius> ooPo: if i remove fglrx and use the ati i will have to do everything from command prompt again cause atidriver doesnt work
[07:05] <gfish> tritium, with xmms
[07:05] <jatos> would anyone mind pasting /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin?
[07:05] <Amaranth> !tell jatos about repos
[07:06] <primoturbo> it's longer to start up then in windows
[07:06] <oblibsnig> How do I fix the kernel nvidia module? I get this error when trying to load X with nvidia driver:Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but
[07:06] <oblibsnig> this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel
[07:06] <oblibsnig> module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version.
[07:06] <primoturbo> like firefox
[07:06] <primoturbo> or gaim
[07:06] <tritium> gfish, yep, there's "xmms-flac"
[07:06] <tritium> !tell primoturbo about enter
[07:06] <gnomefreak> !enter
[07:06] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:06] <ooPo> sirius: well, if you're feeling adventurous someday, print it out and give it a try...
[07:06] <gfish> tritium, how do i get that
[07:06] <sirius> lol
[07:06] <sirius> all i need to do now is get the printer working :(
[07:06] <ooPo> but it only really fixes a problem for widescreen laptop users currently
[07:06] <primoturbo> !tell tritium about life
[07:06] <tritium> gfish, sudo apt-get install xmms-flac
[07:06] <jatos> thanks Amaranth
[07:07] <tritium> primoturbo, don't be rude, now
[07:07] <sirius> ooPo so i really dont need it ?
[07:07] <gfish> tritium, is there 1 for mp4 aswell
[07:07] <ooPo> sirius: not really, no... :)
[07:07] <jatos> I trying to partially convert linspire to ubuntu and I am too lazy to start up ubuntu live and get a sources.list from there
[07:07] <tritium> gfish, not sure
[07:07] <Moder> hi, i am at my friends house, he installed ubuntu 5.10 and cant get synaptic package manager running, it wont even start. it asks for the password but after that nothing happens. how can i fix this?
[07:07] <sirius> ooPo: well then nvm :P
[07:08] <primoturbo> tritium: sorry :)
[07:08] <ooPo> Moder: If you run it from a command line, does it give any errors?
[07:08] <tritium> primoturbo, :)
[07:08] <gnomefreak> where did biff go???????? i know i installed it but i cant find it to configure it :(
[07:08] <Moder> ooPo: havent tried :S
[07:08] <Moder> a sev
[07:08] <primoturbo> is there anyway to disable the minimize animation with the black lines?
[07:08] <Moder> *sec
[07:08] <TonySt> ...Ok, anyone have any ideas on how I work MIDI on my ubuntu box?
[07:09] <Kzar[dot] net> primoturbo: X WM's don't use 3D acceleration.
[07:09] <primoturbo> X WM's? What is that?
[07:09] <Juhaz> primoturbo, no. unless you also want to turn window move/resize to wireframe mode
[07:09] <sirius> where does my slave NTFS drive show up at on here :P ?
[07:09] <Kzar[dot] net> X Windows Managers
[07:09] <oblibsnig> TonySt have you looked on the wiki?
[07:09] <Moder> ooPo: it started just fine, thanks. too easy solution once again :P
[07:09] <primoturbo> Juhaz no I don't want that I had it before, looks bad
[07:10] <TonySt> oblibsnig: indeed I have not
[07:10] <orandic> what would you guys like to see on a site dedicated to ubuntu lovers world wide.  This isn't a dating site but I'm think it should be a collection of art not on the ubuntu site.
[07:10] <oblibsnig> I think there is a guide or two TonySt, or at least on the forums
[07:10] <primoturbo> There is something very odd about gnome, try resizing a window and it lags behind a little
[07:10] <primoturbo> I never get that in windows xp
[07:10] <TonySt> oblibsnig: Yep, looking at the wiki thing now... not sure why I didn't just go there in the first place
[07:11] <primoturbo> I think the way it draws the desktop is flawed or old
[07:11] <ooPo> Moder: Strange, but glad to see it works. :)
[07:11] <gnomefreak> ok who uses biff in here or how do you configure it to a certain mail server?
[07:11] <primoturbo> Can anyone try and help me with this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94987
[07:11] <mikestryke> quick question. Is it possible to use the i386 ISO of Ubuntu on an AMD64 architechture?
[07:11] <tritium> yes, mikestryke
[07:11] <oblibsnig> How do I fix the kernel nvidia module? I get this error when trying to load X with nvidia driver:Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667.
[07:12] <MagicFab> hello
[07:12] <sebuntu> hello
[07:12] <mikestryke> ok thanks. I haven't been able to get the AMD64 version of Ubuntu working properly with my wireless card because of driver compatability issues
[07:12] <MagicFab> I'm going to make a test install of breezy as server
[07:13] <MagicFab> Can I run PHP4 and PHP5 simultaneously using packages ? or should I compile/install manually ?
[07:13] <tritium> oblibsnig, please update & upgrade.  See if you missed an update to nvidia-glx
[07:13] <MagicFab> same question about mySQL
[07:14] <JonnyRo> MagicFab: i wouldnt try to mix the two
[07:14] <mikestryke> does Ubuntu have a burning program built in? and how do I access that program?
[07:14] <tritium> MagicFab, check the package info, and look for what conflicts those packages have
[07:14] <JonnyRo> MagicFab: why not set up virtual servers using Xen or something
[07:14] <Kzar[dot] net> primoturbo: but some X extensions are on the way to : have a look at those demos : http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots
[07:14] <MagicFab> JonnyRo: I have to , for testing purposes
[07:14] <JonnyRo> MagicFab: or qEMU if you really dont care about performance that much
[07:14] <Kzar[dot] net> It's impressive
[07:15] <MagicFab> JonnyRo: wouldn't that be too much hassle (admin of 2 servers instead of one because of 2 pcakages - mySQL and PHP)
[07:15] <oblibsnig> tritium, I did apt-get update, and the apt-get upgrade nvidia-glx, and it did nothing
[07:16] <Terminus> mikestryke, nautilus can. Places -> Home Folder -> Go -> CD/DVD Creator
[07:16] <tritium> oblibsnig, just run sudo apt-get upgrade, with no package name following
[07:16] <mikestryke> thanks Terminus
[07:16] <primoturbo> Kzar[dot] net: Thanks
[07:16] <Terminus> mikestryke, np.
[07:16] <oblibsnig> tritium, just did that, no results either
[07:16] <Kzar[dot] net> primoturbo: and this one : http://vizzzion.org/stuff/xgl_wanking.avi
[07:17] <tritium> oblibsnig, which version of nvidia-glx is installed?
[07:17] <GigaClon> how can find out what /dev my modem is on? the Device manager doesn't work
[07:17] <oblibsnig> tritium, should be 7667. How do I check from a terminal?
[07:17] <kapputu> xfce is very cool
[07:17] <tritium> oblibsnig, apt-cache policy nvidia-gl
[07:18] <tritium> nvidia-glx, rather
[07:18] <oblibsnig> tritium, 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1
[07:18] <gnomefreak> kapputu, thats why they have xubuntu :)
[07:18] <timbalbekov> ^^ nvidia-glx should be default
[07:18] <tritium> oblibsnig, my wife is calling me...need to go...
[07:18] <G3N3SiS> hello
[07:18] <oblibsnig> tritium thanks anyway
[07:18] <tritium> oblibsnig, yes, that's the latest
[07:18] <timbalbekov> how do i see the startup scripts on my system?
[07:18] <timbalbekov> and how do i reset the saved session?
[07:19] <tritium> oblibsnig, there were recent kernel updates.  make sure you have the latest linux-image and linux-restricted-modules (may require a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)
[07:19] <kapputu> gnomefreak, xubuntu? where did that come from?
[07:19] <Goatocausto> hi all um - how do i mount an ntfs partition/drive in ubuntu ?? and also - i made a partition to install ubuntu onto, but it wont let me choose it in the installer [or, what should i do ??] 
[07:19] <tritium> good luck, and bye for now
[07:19] <gnomefreak> kapputu,  from my understanding ubuntu will be realeasing xubuntu on download soon or already is i dont remember
[07:19] <gnomefreak> xubuntu=xfce desktop default
[07:19] <Goatocausto> :D
[07:19] <Goatocausto> cannnt wait for xubuntu
[07:20] <Pygi> sudo apt-get install xubuntu :D
[07:20] <Goatocausto> im tryin to install ubuntu in a tic, just to try and play around with xfce and ubuntu
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto,  install it than its in the repos in ubuntu
[07:20] <G3N3SiS> I have a problem with VMware on Breezy. The Network-Module does not load. Could anybody please help me?
[07:20] <Goatocausto> ok
[07:20] <oblibsnig> tritium, dist-upgrade did nothing
[07:20] <Goatocausto> but gnomefreak, how do i set ubuntu to install on the ext2 partition i want it to go on ??
[07:20] <timbalbekov> whats xbantu?
[07:20] <oblibsnig> tritium, I have tried to keep up on everything
[07:20] <gnomefreak> xfce and xubuntu-desktop are same only xubuntu is a meta package
[07:20] <kapputu> gnomefreak, it's awesome on my P-III 850 with 256MB
[07:20] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, which kernel are you using ?
[07:20] <j4r0d> i search the french channel of ubuntu official ???????????????????
[07:21] <rindolf> Hi all!
[07:21] <[Yoni] > Hello all..
[07:21] <G3N3SiS> 2.6.12-9-k7
[07:21] <j4r0d> i search the french channel of ubuntu official ???????????????????
[07:21] <rindolf> Where do I find the bootup message in Ubuntu?
[07:21] <Kzar[dot] net> j4r0d: salut, c'est #ubuntu-fr ;-)
[07:21] <[Yoni] > If I'm installing ubuntu 5.10 on my Pentium 4 1.4ghz with 512Mb of DDR 226 RAM, should I recompile the kernel?
[07:21] <Kzar[dot] net> rindolf: dmseg
[07:21] <rindolf> Kzar[dot] net: not the kernel ones.
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto,  fdisk maybe? i dont know i use ext and once i install it i dont look back :)
[07:21] <Kzar[dot] net> rindolf: dmesg
[07:22] <rindolf> Kzar[dot] net: the ones that init emits
[07:22] <Kzar[dot] net> rindolf: right.
[07:22] <Goatocausto> mm
[07:22] <Goatocausto> hmn
[07:22] <Goatocausto> no i mean
[07:22] <gnomefreak> !fdisk
[07:22] <ubotu> Not a clue, gnomefreak
[07:22] <Goatocausto> within the actual ubuntu installer... like
[07:22] <Goatocausto> i set my hdd up into one primary and two logical drives
[07:22] <rindolf> Kzar[dot] net: there's nothing of interest there.
[07:22] <Goatocausto> c,h and another
[07:22] <rindolf> Kzar[dot] net: maybe it got lost.
[07:22] <oblibsnig> How do I fix the kernel nvidia module? I get this error when trying to load X with nvidia driver:Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667.
[07:22] <G3N3SiS> AlexMBas: 2.6.12-9-k7
[07:22] <Goatocausto> the last being the one i want ubuntu to go on
[07:22] <Kzar[dot] net> rindolf: I see what you mean.
[07:22] <Goatocausto> but
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Goatocausto,  its a manulal partioner there are a few that linux uses
[07:22] <Goatocausto> it doesnt seem to want to choose it
[07:23] <Goatocausto> ill just remove it and use the ubuntu partitionizer thing and see how i go
[07:23] <[Yoni] > Anybody ?:\
[07:23] <seww> what is the command to execute a *.run file?
[07:23] <GigaClon> how can find out what /dev my modem is on? the Device manager doesn't work
[07:23] <os2mac> can someone email me the ubuntu offical background?
[07:23] <GigaClon> err doesn't tell me
[07:23] <jbpeele> [Yoni] : what are you trying to achieve?
[07:23] <Jemt> Does anyone know how to format a partition with FAT32 using mke2fs ?
[07:23] <KerPlunk> Does Ubuntu has three branches?
[07:23] <KerPlunk> stable/unstable/testing?
[07:23] <seww> what is the command to execute a *.run file?
[07:23] <[Yoni] > btter perfomance..
[07:24] <gnomefreak> os2mac,  offical background?
[07:24] <Firen> how can i login as root in livecd ver :/?
[07:24] <KerPlunk> seww: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run;
[07:24] <Jemt> I want a shared partition for Ubuntu and Windows with a common file system
[07:24] <jenda> Firen: sudo -i, I think
[07:24] <seww> KerPlunk, all of that?
[07:24] <KerPlunk> seww: yes
[07:24] <jbpeele> [Yoni] : I'm not sure how the ubuntu compiles the kernel by default, but if you're after performance I think the answer is obvious
[07:24] <seww> KerPlunk, ok thanks
[07:24] <gnomefreak> os2mac,  go to www.ubuntu.com and look at the screenshots it should be there
[07:24] <os2mac> the brown human ubuntu desktop background.
[07:24] <KerPlunk> Jemt: good luck with that
[07:24] <Tomcat_> Jemt: Doesn't work afaik.
[07:24] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, which vmware version/model are you using
[07:24] <JonnyRo> This battlefield 2 game is addictive
[07:25] <GigaClon> Jemt, use FAT32
[07:25] <JonnyRo> wish they had a linux client for it
[07:25] <landreau_fcna> hello
[07:25] <Tomcat_> Jemt: You'd need a filesystem that works with both Linux and Windows natively....
[07:25] <Firen> jenda: it work, thx
[07:25] <landreau_fcna> im french
[07:25] <GigaClon> like FAT32
[07:25] <Tomcat_> Jemt: Unfortunately, the Windows-native FAT/NTFS have no rights management/no writing support in Linux...
[07:25] <landreau_fcna> ok
[07:25] <Jemt> I know. That's why I suggested FAT32 myself
[07:25] <landreau_fcna> super
[07:25] <jenda> Firen np
[07:25] <Kzar[dot] net> landreau_fcna: alors va sur #ubuntu-fr ;-)
[07:25] <Tomcat_> Jemt: And on the other hand, ext2/ext3/reiser can't be used in Windows natively.
[07:25] <os2mac> Gnomefreak it is... but I want to use the desktop.
[07:25] <Jemt> ...
[07:25] <G3N3SiS> AlexMBas, VMware workstation 5.0.0
[07:25] <Jemt> Does anyone know how to format a partition with FAT32 using mke2fs ?
[07:25] <landreau_fcna> bande de boufon
[07:25] <JonnyRo> Didnt the sysinternals guys make an ext2 driver for windows
[07:25] <gnomefreak> os2mac,  are you using ubuntu?
[07:25] <JonnyRo> Jemt: mkfs.vfat
[07:26] <Goatocausto> Tomcat_
[07:26] <[Yoni] > kk, thanks :)
[07:26] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, can you use vmware-play?
[07:26] <Goatocausto> but how does "insert" linux work then ???
[07:26] <Tomcat_> JonnyRo: Yes, one can use it, but I highly doubt you can boot Windows off ext3 :)
[07:26] <Kzar[dot] net> JonnyRo: yes they do
[07:26] <AlexMBas> or update to 5.5 ?
[07:26] <os2mac> no I am using Kbuntu....
[07:26] <os2mac> s/kbuntu/kubuntu
[07:26] <Tomcat_> Goatocausto: One can always write a layer for everything... but this is Ubuntu, and I don't know of such a thing. :)
[07:26] <Jemt> JonnyRo: I've tryed that. Didn't work. Give me a sec - I'll try again
[07:26] <gnomefreak> os2mac,  it doesnt have the brown background in the desktop section?
[07:26] <Goatocausto> ah ok
[07:26] <Goatocausto> so
[07:27] <JonnyRo> Jemt: you might need to install a package to get that command
[07:27] <G3N3SiS> I don't know, but I need workstation to create them.
[07:27] <Tomcat_> You could also install Linux, then buy VMWare and use Windows in it... that would be a "shared partition" as well.
[07:27] <os2mac> Kubuntu doesn't no
[07:27] <Goatocausto> i could set up ubuntu to read my xp partitions ??
[07:27] <Tomcat_> And you could even run Windows and Linux at the same time. :)
[07:27] <Goatocausto> ahaha
[07:27] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, can you downgrade to kernel 2.6.10 ?
[07:27] <Goatocausto> though i dunno WHY youd want to do that
[07:27] <Goatocausto> actually
[07:27] <gnomefreak> os2mac,  let me check something
[07:27] <Jemt> JonnyRo: Already got it..
[07:27] <Goatocausto> some things might be okay [programs]  that linux doesnt have as good but eh
[07:27] <timbalbekov> what's a good IDE for ubuntu?
[07:28] <GNULinuxer> timbalbekov: Anjuta
[07:28] <Jemt> timbalbekov: Development Environment ?
[07:28] <timbalbekov> yes
[07:28] <timbalbekov> GnuLinuxer: thx ill try it
[07:28] <Jemt> timbalbekov: What language ?
[07:28] <AlexMBas> timbalbekov, monodevelop !!!!
[07:28] <Jemt> timbalbekov: Most people prefer Vim
[07:28] <timbalbekov> english, russian -- something simple
[07:28] <GNULinuxer> Jemt: I do Emacs
[07:28] <timbalbekov> Jemt: vim is a bit oldschool for me
[07:29] <GNULinuxer> timbalbekov: programming langauge
[07:29] <Jemt> I use Bluefish
[07:29] <AlexMBas> timbalbekov, C#, C?
[07:29] <Jemt> And Nano :)
[07:29] <SoulPropagation> timbalbekov: gEdit
[07:29] <timbalbekov> C++
[07:29] <AlexMBas> ajunta
[07:29] <Jemt> Eclipse maybe
[07:29] <AlexMBas> anjuta
[07:29] <GNULinuxer> timbalbekov: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:29] <timbalbekov> ubuntu
[07:29] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS,  can you use 2.6.10?
[07:29] <timbalbekov> gnome :)
[07:29] <G3N3SiS> This would be difficult, because I use the nVidia driver and so on...
[07:29] <GNULinuxer> timbalbekov: then anjuta
[07:29] <kapputu> 24, Male, Single Ubunter looking for Cisco VPN Client 4.0.3 for linux
[07:29] <timbalbekov> ok
[07:30] <jenda> kapputu: I'm a  Cisco VPN Client 4.0 for linux. Wanna dance?
[07:30] <kapputu> hehe
[07:30] <G3N3SiS> Is VMware incompatible with 2.6.12?
[07:30] <kapputu> I need 4.0.3 specifically
[07:30] <kapputu> or lower
[07:31] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, Vmware 5.0.x works perfectly with kernel <= 2.6.10
[07:31] <jenda> Sorry - then I'm not right for you...
[07:31] <gnomefreak> os2mac,  other than screen shots i dont know how you would get it if someone sent you a screen shot you would have their app.
[07:31] <AlexMBas> vmware 5.5.x or new vmware-play works with any 2.6.x kernel
[07:31] <Jemt> JonnyRo: mkfs.vfat /dev/hda3 <= This should work, right? It dosn't. I get this error : Attempting to create a too large file system
[07:31] <G3N3SiS> OK, how can I downgrade to 2.6.10?
[07:31] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, which ubuntu are you using ?
[07:32] <os2mac> surely there is a .jpg or .svg of the background that installs with ubuntu...
[07:32] <Jemt> JonnyRo: I used fdisk to create the table. I have set it as a W95 Fat32 partition (type b)
[07:32] <kapputu> if I have that VPN client my dependence on Windows XP will end
[07:32] <G3N3SiS> AlexMBas, I#m using Breezy Badger
[07:32] <JonnyRo> Jemt: hmm,, wierd.
[07:32] <Jemt> JonnyRo: Trying LBA mode
[07:33] <Jemt> JonnyRo: Didn't work
[07:33] <AlexMBas> you should put the hoary repositories on /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get or use synaptic to download 2.6.10 linux-tree
[07:33] <atripathi> good midnight all
[07:33] <JonnyRo> Jemt: sorry, out of ideas
[07:33] <Jemt> JonnyRo: Ok, thanks anyways :)
[07:34] <atripathi> I need some assistance regarding configuring firestarter
[07:34] <kapputu> ok finally retiring my other Ubuntu installation
[07:34] <navarone> Jempt...you can always let the ubuntu installer partition and format the drive...yes...no?
[07:34] <kapputu> how do I format that drive?
[07:34] <jenda> navarone: yes
[07:34] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, do you know how to add repositories on apt ?
[07:35] <G3N3SiS> yes...
[07:35] <varsendagger> hey how do i get my microphone working, i'm usng fubuntu
[07:35] <AlexMBas> so just add the hoary and download it, that is what I've done here
[07:35] <LathropWells> Ubuntu is best in ZDNET Comparison of linuxes for the business desktop http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/24/1826220&tid=163&tid=106
[07:35] <kapputu> varsendagger, fubuntu = fluxbox?
[07:35] <varsendagger> yeah
[07:35] <AlexMBas> there is an update you can apply on vmware install
[07:35] <AlexMBas> but it is unofficial
[07:35] <AlexMBas> want the link?
[07:35] <gnomefreak> kapputu,  i dont think there is a fubuntu
[07:35] <AlexMBas> it should work
[07:36] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, uh yeah there is, i'm running it
[07:36] <gnomefreak> im thinking flux doesnt have a meta package
[07:36] <gnomefreak> there is?
[07:36] <GigaClon> how can find out what device my modem is on?
[07:36] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, yeah they don't
[07:36] <dr_willis> windowmaker could use a meta-package to install all its dock-applets :P
[07:36] <kapputu> gnomefreak, how do I format an ext3 partition?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> kapputu, you can use the installer that is on the cd or you can use fdisk or a few others and manully format it. if you  are gonna put and os on that drive use the partioner that the os uses its easy
[07:38] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, would like to try the vmware unofficial update ?
[07:38] <G3N3SiS> Yes, if that helps...
[07:39] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, it should work
[07:39] <AlexMBas> let me get the URL
[07:39] <claudiu> mz2: i was used with ~x86
[07:39] <gnomefreak> flux doesnt have a meta package in the sources you have to instll fluxbox than other things
[07:39] <kapputu> gnomefreak, no I'm retiring an earlier installation and I need to format it
[07:39] <IRC_> can somebody help me put mp3 support in rhythmbox on a pc without internet?
[07:39] <blanky> hey guys, i wanna get dialog blocks ( http://www.anthemion.co.uk/dialogblocks/ ), but it's not in synaptic, which one should I download, the RPM and use alien on it, or the debian sarge
[07:40] <gnomefreak> kapputu,  your not putting an os on that pc at all?
[07:40] <Seveas> blanky, sarged
[07:40] <Seveas> -d
[07:40] <Terminus> kapputu, mkfs.ext3
[07:40] <oblibsnig> IRC_ you'd probably need to just copy the necessary files (.deb or whatever) and get then to the harddrive
[07:40] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, get vmware-any-any-update96.tar.gz from http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/
[07:40] <blanky> Seveas did you see the package? it's tar.gz, not deb
[07:40] <atripathi> someon here use firestarter ?
[07:41] <IRC_> oblibsnig: can you tell me what files i need to download?
[07:41] <mrcucmber> I have a small problem I'm using wine to run my accounting package (peachtree) and I'd like to add it in the menu, to get it to run in the shell I type "wine c:\\Program\ Files\\Sage\ Software\\Peachtree\\peachw.exe" with all the '\' to escape spaces, but for the menu I don't think I need to do thoes.. but I'm not entirely sure what it should look like instead
[07:41] <G3N3SiS> AlexMBas, at the moment I'm downloading 2.6.10, so I can try both tips.
[07:41] <oblibsnig> IRC_, no I don't know. Anyone else help him?
[07:41] <G3N3SiS> Thank you very much.
[07:42] <AlexMBas> G3N3SiS, np ... the update should work, though I have not tested it
[07:42] <blanky> Seveas http://www.anthemion.co.uk/dialogblocks/ , the sarge package is a tar.gz with weird stuff in it
[07:42] <trappist> mrcucmber: you can refer to the linux filesystem path, like /home/mrcucumber/.wine/...
[07:42] <Seveas> blanky, sec.
[07:43] <blanky> thanks buddy!
[07:43] <claudiu> mz2: i am going to downgrade my kernel - if it works i`ll let you know
[07:43] <kapputu> gnomefreak, I have two Ubuntus on my machine right now
[07:43] <kapputu> I need to format the drive containing the earlier version
[07:43] <IRC_> can someone tell me how to get mp3 support in rhythmbox on a pc without internet??
[07:44] <JonnyRo> IRC_: it's impossible
[07:44] <caelie> hello
[07:44] <GigaClon> lspci gives my modem as Intel Corp. 828801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller
[07:44] <JonnyRo> IRC_: you'd have to copy over the .deb files manually
[07:44] <jared> whats the easiest way to install ubuntu when the BIOS doesn't boot to CD?
[07:44] <IRC_> jonnyro: thats what im trying to do
[07:44] <Seveas> blanky, just run the installdb script
[07:45] <G3N3SiS> YES!!! The update works! Thanx!
[07:45] <kapputu> I need to get a better understanding of partitions and mounting filesystems etc. Can someone give me pointers? I'm especially looking at how to use another drive for installations etc
[07:45] <blanky> Seveas okay thanks buddy :)
[07:46] <soundray> IRC_: there is a way to generate a list of required packages, which you can then download on another machine. I'll have a look to see if I can dig it up...
[07:46] <gnomefreak> jared,  i think they have a netinstall for ubuntu
[07:46] <G3N3SiS> bye
[07:46] <varsendagger> how do i find out what sound server is being used?
[07:46] <jared> good idea... thanks
[07:47] <mrcucmber> trappis: I have " wine ~/.wine/c/Program\ Files/Sage\ Software/Peachtree/peachw.exe" now
[07:47] <mrcucmber> trappis: which also works in shell, but not in the menu, do I need drop the '\' chars or something?
[07:47] <Kzar[dot] net> GigaClon: argl, a Winmodem...
[07:47] <GigaClon> thought so
[07:47] <Kzar[dot] net> "Winmodem" sucks as they need some modem emulation done by OS.
[07:47] <Khufu> ubuntu installation just failed me (install-cd, not live-cd)... ran out of space on a 2 gig hard drive :~(
[07:48] <Kzar[dot] net> !wiki winmodem
[07:48] <Khufu> but I can't delete any of these files in the /var/cache/apt directory to free up some space because root doesn't have a passwd or something
[07:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kzar[dot] net  about winmodem
[07:48] <LjL> Seveas: me too. but anyway, the issue is moot, since i just received this:    [19:48]  [Notice]  -kkathman- LjL!*n=ljl@62-101-126-215.ip.fastwebnet.it You are being ignored from now on!
[07:48] <necercis> kuhu : use sudo
[07:48] <Kzar[dot] net> !wiki WinModem
[07:49] <necercis> srry  khufu
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Kzar[dot] net, read the pm you got from ubotu
[07:49] <kapputu> how do I configure grub from Ubuntu?
[07:49] <Kzar[dot] net> gnomefreak: yep ! :)
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Kzar[dot] net,  :)
[07:49] <jenda> Khufu: Or you can use 'sudo nautilus' to see it all graphically
[07:49] <Kzar[dot] net> gnomefreak: on #ubuntu-fr, wiki requests are displayed on the chan ;)
[07:49] <necercis> kapputu: pico /boot/menu.lst
[07:49] <kapputu> necercis, any GUI available?
[07:50] <necercis> no i don't think so
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Kzar[dot] net, this bot will give you a wiki in the output if it was configured to know of one
[07:50] <Kzar[dot] net> GigaClon: have a look here : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[07:50] <knightly__> Hey, sorry for this deffinitly newb question that has probally been ask 10^99 times but, what is the difference between the live.iso's and install.iso's??
[07:50] <atripathi> somone using firestarter ?
[07:50] <kapputu> /boot/menu.lst is empty
[07:50] <GigaClon> I have its quite fragmented
[07:50] <GigaClon> :(
[07:50] <gnomefreak> atripathi, nope sorry the firewall works just fine no tweaking for me to use anyway
[07:51] <threeseas> I've reinstalled ubuntu - now trying to compile qt but it can seem to find g++ which I have installed as well
[07:51] <gnomefreak> kapputu, gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:51] <atripathi> thanks for the reply freak. When i start it...my internet is blocked
[07:51] <atripathi> I am trying to reconfigure
[07:51] <Fred|Fr3d> knightly__, install "installs" itself onto your harddrive, removing/resizing any existing windows/linux. live just runs from cd, and leaves other windows/linux stuff well alone.
[07:51] <atripathi> can you help me a little
[07:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell atripathi about firestarter
[07:52] <gnomefreak> atripathi,  ubotu sent you a pm on firestarter
[07:52] <atripathi> thanks but i knew that ;)
[07:52] <Fred> is there an rpm command to extract one file from an archive?
[07:52] <atripathi> i am trying to configure it
[07:53] <atripathi> I already know what it is
[07:53] <soundray> IRC_, still here?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> atripathi,  on that page there should be a how-to
[07:53] <IRC_> soundray: yup
[07:53] <kapputu> where is the mountall script?
[07:53] <atripathi> yeah I installed it using apt-get
[07:53] <Seveas> kapputu, /etc/init.d/mountall.sh
[07:53] <Alex> Seveas: Civil ;P
[07:53] <soundray> IRC_, I cannot find the web site right now, but there is a way of creating a missing packages list with dpkg.
[07:53] <Seveas> Alex, not for spambots
[07:54] <IRC_> soundray: ok thanks
[07:54] <soundray> IRC_, you can copy that list to another machine and run wget over all items.
[07:54] <Seveas> spambots and the a*holes who create them should dir
[07:54] <Fred> is there an rpm command to extract onlu one file from an archive?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> nm atripathi  i thought it gave you the site brb with the site for firestarter
[07:54] <Seveas> die even
[07:54] <Alex> Seveas: :)
[07:54] <atripathi> yeah i already tried my options before asking here....as usual
[07:54] <IRC_> soundray: i got it before on 5.04 then it crashed so i installed 5.10 and i forgot how to do it
[07:54] <kapputu> can I specify that another parition be used as my home directory or something?
[07:54] <kapputu> *partition
[07:55] <Seveas> kapputu, sure
[07:55] <gnomefreak> atripathi,  here you go http://www.fs-security.com/docs.php
[07:55] <atripathi> i will ask u a few simple questions
[07:55] <atripathi> regarding configuration pages
[07:55] <kapputu> Seveas, how do I do that?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> atripathi, that site as a walk-through on firestarter should give you most of what you need to know i say should cause that is what i was told
[07:56] <kapputu> where would I go looking for a Cisco VPN client version 4.0.3 or lower considering that I have already Googled a lot for it
[07:56] <soundray> IRC_, ubotu knows something about this, too, under restricted formats.
[07:56] <soundray> IRC_, do you have that?
[07:57] <IRC_> soundray: ubotu
[07:57] <IRC_> soundray:?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> atripathi,  please dont pm me without asking and i dont use firestarter so i wouldnt be the person to ask.
[07:57] <johnny> how does one stop the loading of X on the command lin?
[07:57] <johnny> err kernel command line
[07:57] <atripathi> nevermind
[07:58] <snausages> i'm trying to change assigned hotkeys for the terminal. alt+left/right changes tabs right now, which is the default, but i want to disable that and have irssi use those hotkeys to switch between windows. can anyone help me out with that?
[07:58] <GarBhaD> hi
[07:58] <soundray> !tell IRC_ about restricted formats
[07:58] <soundray> IRC_: ubotu, your plastic pal who's fun to be with.
[07:58] <GarBhaD> I recently installed ubunto on an old laptop
[07:59] <GarBhaD> and I have some issues with user accounts and passwords
[07:59] <knightly__> Does ubuntu support FluxBox very much, or is it fairly restricted to KDE/Gnome?
[07:59] <IRC_> soundray: whatever it is can it help me?
[07:59] <Khufu> jenda, unfortunately the install broke while configuring gnome because disk space ran out.... i'm deleting a bunch of stuff from the /var/cache dir to free some up...
[07:59] <gnomefreak> snausages,  if you look in the terminals current profile it will allow you to change the key commands
[07:59] <soundray> IRC_, you were looking for MP3 support in Rhythmbox? Yes.
[07:59] <jenda> Khufu: k
[07:59] <Khufu> I hope the configuration continues after I reboot
[07:59] <dr_willis> knightly__,  whats to support. :P its very minimal.
[08:00] <IRC_> soundray: yes on a pc without internet
[08:00] <snausages> gnomefreak: where do i look for that setting in the options?
[08:00] <Khufu> I need to delete the openoffice stuff asap.
[08:00] <gnomefreak> a little too minimal for my liking
[08:00] <snausages> gnomefreak: which tab
[08:00] <gnomefreak> snausages, in the gnome terminal click edit than click current profile
[08:00] <knightly__> dr_willis: exactly, thats why its so great, but will I be able to run my system at a minimalist state, or ubuntu not like that to much?
[08:00] <snausages> gnomefreak: yeah, i'm there
[08:00] <snausages> gnomefreak: now where do i go
[08:01] <gnomefreak> snausages, im sorry click edit than keyboard shortcuts
[08:01] <GarBhaD> well, the thing is that in the "user and passwords" option of the control panel, I removed the administrator rights from 1 user.
[08:01] <dr_willis> knightly__,  disable gdm.. boot to the cosole.. edit your .xinitrc and have a blast. :P
[08:01] <threeseas> anyone know what I need to do to be able to use g++ after snaptic installed it?
[08:01] <GigaClon> is there a fluxbox guide somewhere?
[08:01] <snausages> gnomefreak: gotcha. i think i know how to do it from here, thanks!
[08:01] <Tartaros> anyone know a tool to convert .mov movie file (from my camera) to a series of pictures, or an animated gif?
[08:02] <dr_willis> knightly__,  but some of the ubuntu 'tools' need  gnome
[08:02] <dritt> Hi, could anybody send me this 2 files: webmin.acl and update.conf, Im having trouble installing Webmin and Webmin-core... and I needed to complete the installation and I couldnt find them neither in the .deb file niether in the web
[08:02] <GigaClon> threeseas, did you install build-essential?
[08:02] <GarBhaD> but now nobody can access the "user and passwords" applet, not even me :(
[08:02] <devilz_> doesn anyone know where can i find Grub Themes?
[08:02] <Xen> I need help installing VLC on ubuntu
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Seveas, is there a way to configure biff?
[08:02] <Xen> anybody have a minute?
[08:03] <dr_willis> Xen,  whats the problem?
[08:03] <Seveas> Xen, sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:03] <Seveas> done.
[08:03] <Xen> doesn't work
[08:03] <threeseas> GigaClan: ah... that was what I needed to do...hopefully
[08:03] <GigaClon> when I upgraded to Breezy from Hoary it kept the 3 grub entries from Hoary, how do i delete them
[08:04] <soundray> IRC_, I thing the key may be dpkg --get-selections
[08:04] <nickrud> IRC_, you have to get the file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins0.8/gstreamer0.8-plugins_0.8.11-0ubuntu5_i386.deb somehow for mp3's in rhythmbox
[08:04] <dr_willis> 'dosent work means very little' the install dident work? or the player isent working... not at all? or not 100%
[08:04] <Xen> I get unmet dependencies--dbus-1 and libhal0
[08:04] <quiet> hey guys.. i'm getting this error when I try to start firefox (breezy) : "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager    System error?:: Success"
[08:04] <quiet> firefox does not load...
[08:04] <sirius> is there a Flash player for X86_64 lol sirius@Sirius:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$ ./flashplayer-ins*
[08:04] <sirius> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[08:04] <sirius>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[08:04] <Kirsch> hey guys are there any good wireless ssid switchers?
[08:04] <GigaClon> type the first couple of char of a name and hit tab
[08:04] <sirius> bah sorry
[08:04] <threeseas> GigaClan: thanks
[08:04] <IRC_> nickrud: thanks man ill try it now~!
[08:05] <navarone> tlol
[08:05] <GigaClon> it should help cut down on the miss typings
[08:05] <nickrud> IRC_, sorry, I grabbed the wrong link!
[08:05] <Kirsch> sirius: no, u have to use a firefox 32bit for linux
[08:05] <IRC_> nickrud: o man
[08:05] <IRC_> nickrud: i was about to burn a cd of it
[08:05] <Xen> dr_willis, I get unmet dependencies (dbus-1 and libhal0)
[08:05] <nickrud> IRC_, a sec, I'll get the right one
[08:06] <sirius> Kirsch: the 64 bit ubuntu comes with 64 bit Firefox ?
[08:06] <Xen> dr_willis, if it helps, I'm using the amd64 version of ubuntu 5.10
[08:06] <Khufu> why does ubuntu use apt ? should use an advanced packaging system like rpm
[08:06] <rootz> hi guys
[08:06] <Kirsch> I'd assume so, yes. You'd have to either A) compile it for 32bit or B) download a precompiled 32-bit
[08:06] <nickrud> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins0.8/gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.11-0ubuntu5_i386.deb IRC_ (darn firefox scrolled out from under me again!)
[08:06] <gnomefreak> lol@rpm being advanced
[08:06] <rootz> i can't set my apt to use a proxy auth
[08:06] <navarone> sirius perhaps there a re no 64bit plugins..?
[08:06] <indigirl1> is ntfs necessarily readonly?
[08:06] <rootz> anybody use it here?
[08:06] <snausages> gnomefreak: ok, i disabeled the left/right hotkeys, but i don't know how to assign them to irssi now ;\
[08:07] <johnny> when i press any keys at gdm login screen.. it changes resolution
[08:07] <Kirsch> I don't know how emulation is tho in Ubuntu 64bit, I use Gentoo 64bit and it works nicely there...
[08:07] <adilfulara> hi
[08:07] <fissy>  /obliterate khufu
[08:07] <sirius> i hate Firefox is there a browser similer to IE for linux lol ?
[08:07] <IRC_> nickrud: so then i install that and ill be set
[08:07] <adilfulara> sup peeps
[08:07] <Xen> sirius, firefox is pretty similar :)
[08:07] <indigirl1> sirius: use ie with wine
[08:07] <navarone> sirius> try lynx...<s>
[08:07] <gnomefreak> snausages,  i use the keys that have been given to me i knew where to change than but never did
[08:07] <adilfulara> opera is good
[08:07] <sirius> lol indigirl
[08:07] <Xen> IE on wine is pretty flakey
[08:07] <nickrud> IRC_, yeah, that's the mp3 plugin for the rhythmbox backend
[08:07] <snausages> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[08:07] <Xen> at least it was when I tried it on debian 3.1
[08:07] <adilfulara> opera best
[08:08] <gnomefreak> IE on windows is pretty flakey
[08:08] <Xen> lol
[08:08] <Kirsch> Xen, IE on wine is pointless, it'lll get rendered differently
[08:08] <IRC_> nickrud: thanks ill install it now
[08:08] <Kirsch> IE is flakey
[08:08] <Seveas> opera is almost as bas as IE so it might suit you sirius :)
[08:08] <sirius> k
[08:08] <Xen> Kirsch, I was addressing sirius--I use Mozilla
[08:08] <sirius> Xen isnt Mozilla -> FF ?
[08:08] <Xen> So--anybody know how to get VLC working?
[08:09] <indigirl1> gnomefreak: thats what they want you to think
[08:09] <rmbrain> Has anybody tried Dapper yet?
[08:09] <rmbrain> How is gnome 2.14
[08:09] <adilfulara> ?
[08:09] <Xen> sirius, Mozilla makes both "Mozilla" and "Mozilla Firefox"
[08:09] <SbCl3> does anyone know a gameboy advance emulator that works under ubuntu?
[08:09] <sirius> why ...
[08:09] <Xen> they are different browsers
[08:09] <adilfulara> i prefer opera
[08:09] <quiet> please help guys... i have no firefox as of now..  :\
[08:09] <GigaClon> SbCl3, visual boy advance
[08:09] <SbCl3> is there a deb file somewhere?
[08:09] <adilfulara> beter 4 dialup
[08:09] <GigaClon> SbCl3, check synaptic
[08:10] <indigirl1> how do i mount ntfs read-write?
[08:10] <GigaClon> indigirl1, yo don;t
[08:10] <quiet> hey guys.. i'm getting this error when I try to start firefox (breezy) : "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager    System error?:: Success"
[08:10] <erUSUL> SbCl3,  visualboyadvance
[08:10] <navarone> indigirl>writing to ntfs is not supported...could corrupt
[08:10] <Xen> indigirl1, there is some experimental write support you can enable somehow, but I wouldn't use it on anything important
[08:10] <soundray> quiet, did you have an old version before?
[08:10] <rootz> quiet: rm -rf .mozilla on your home =] 
[08:10] <nickrud> ] 
[08:10] <rootz> save the old first
[08:10] <SbCl3> erUsUL: thanks
[08:10] <erUSUL> indigirl1, you can try captive (at your own risk...)
[08:11] <quiet> soundray, it's f resh install today
[08:11] <rootz> hmm
[08:11] <adilfulara> indigirl u from india?
[08:11] <[Yoni] > Hi all, I want to compile a new kernel, ATM I'm working on Ubuntu 5.10 ( kernel 2.6.12-9 ) & I want to replace it with the latest kernel, 2.6.14.3
[08:11] <rootz> nobody uses apt via proxy here?
[08:11] <indigirl1> what is life without risk
[08:11] <jack-> apt-proxy owns
[08:11] <Seveas> rootz, apt respects the HTTP_PROXY environment variable
[08:11] <quiet> soundray, been searching the forums with no luck
[08:12] <Seveas> alternatively set Acquire :: http :: proxy
[08:12] <[Yoni] > Can I do it? or this kernel will not work well on the ubuntu 5.10? I'm a newbie with linux & want to learn how to compile by my own a kernel...
[08:12] <rootz> Seveas: i'm trying to set apt.conf, but it doesnt work
[08:12] <Xen> VLC--won't let me install it even after adding the deb sources listed on the VLC website (unmet dependencies even after universal libs enabled) any ideas?
[08:12] <rootz> it searchs for user@pass as a domain
[08:12] <Seveas> Xen, sources.list at the pastebin please
[08:12] <sneaky> how can i install java?
[08:12] <soundray> quiet, that's a weird error. You haven't got a full disk or anything?
[08:12] <Seveas> !tell sneaky about java
[08:12] <quiet> no.. it's 11 GB
[08:12] <Xen> Seveas, what?
[08:12] <indigirl1> [Yoni] : find a tutorial one the web (there are plenty)
[08:13] <erUSUL> [Yoni] , you can do it i work with a vanilla 2.6.14
[08:13] <juliux> i has someone allready used gutenprint with ubuntu?
[08:13] <sirius> does Opera Come in x86_64 ?
[08:13] <[Yoni] > What is it vanilla 2.6.14? the nick of the kernel?:\
[08:13] <soundray> quiet, I would agree with rootz's suggestion and mv ~/.firefox and ~/.mozilla out of the way to have firefox reconfigure itself.
[08:14] <primoturbo> Hey guys, what is the default wallpaper folder?
[08:14] <Seveas> sirius, afaik not
[08:14] <erUSUL> [Yoni] , the kernel from kernel.org without ubuntu patches
[08:14] <sirius> bah
[08:14] <primoturbo> Where is ubuntu lagoon ketp?
[08:14] <primoturbo> kept*
[08:14] <primoturbo> I cannot seem to locate it
[08:14] <sirius> Xen is Mozzila Better then FF lol
[08:14] <quiet> soundray, i don't ahve a ~/.firefox
[08:14] <rmbrain> has anybody tried Dapper yet?
[08:14] <jaku> someone has problems with the gnome menu? it crashes if I clic it
[08:14] <Xen> sirius, they're both fine--FF is probably faster
[08:15] <quiet> soundray, removed .mozilla
[08:15] <soundray> quiet, ok
[08:15] <quiet> same error
[08:15] <gnomefreak> nope gnome works great here :)
[08:15] <kapputu> looking for a good PIM on linux
[08:15] <navarone> quiet> if you are using file browser to delete files go to View and select Show hidden files..
[08:15] <SoulPropagation> where are my kernel header files?
[08:15] <quiet> googling looks like it's something to do with java.. but i don't know what
[08:15] <quiet> navarone, no.. CLI
[08:15] <[Yoni] > cool, thanks, will work on it then when I'll back from dinner, thanks again!!
[08:15] <oblibsnig> nvidia help requested: I'm trying to run the nvidia install script and it won't go. It says Unable to find the system utility 'ld'
[08:15] <HappyFool> primoturbo: maybe you mean logo?
[08:15] <oblibsnig> Should I have ld and if so, where did it go?
[08:16] <navarone> quiet: okie
[08:16] <HappyFool> oblibsnig: install 'build-essential'
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ubuntu lagoon is a desktop background
[08:16] <bluefoxicy> ubuntu doesn't have jedit o.o
[08:16] <HappyFool> ah-ha
[08:16] <johnny> argh argh argh
[08:17] <dritt> could anybody help me out??
[08:17] <blue-frog> oblibsnig, any reason u don't use the nvidia driver from ubuntu repository?
[08:17] <kapputu> is there a good PIM for linux apart from Evolution??
[08:17] <oblibsnig> thanks HappyFool
[08:17] <oblibsnig> blue-frog it won't work.
[08:17] <bur[n] er> kapputu: kontact
[08:17] <soundray> quiet, shot in the dark, but maybe apt-get --reinstall install firefox ?
[08:17] <quiet> soundray, did it  :)
[08:17] <blue-frog> oblibsnig, what'sur card?
[08:17] <oblibsnig> blue-frog it gives me a black screen with an unblinking typing cursor in the corner
[08:17] <quiet> didn't help  :\
[08:18] <oblibsnig> GeForce4 440 MX
[08:18] <blue-frog> oblibsnig, what ubuntu nvidia driver did u use?
[08:18] <soundray> quiet, does it happen when you run it as a different user?
[08:18] <erUSUL> !tell dritt about help
[08:18] <sirius> okay Sence Opera WOuld not let me install the X386 Version on my 64 bit version of linux will Firefox let me install the i386 version or am i screwed out of a flash player ?
[08:18] <quiet> soundray, yes.
[08:18] <kapputu> bur[n] er, I use xfce, does it work well?
[08:19] <germancito> Hello everybody, can someone tell me where is the Applications Menu onfiguration file stored and how it's named?
[08:19] <soundray> quiet, beats me.
[08:19] <dura> With Firefox-bin
[08:19] <quiet> soundray, :\  lol.. okay thanks.
[08:19] <benplaut> ok. i have some free time to experiment with... oepnbox, fluxbox, or blackbox? (or other *box?)
[08:19] <ie43> hey, I have a logitech quickcam express camera, Ive set it up on ubuntu before but forgot how, can someone help me please?
[08:19] <devilz_> how can i close ports ipp (631), 32770(sometimes-rpc3) ?
[08:19] <quiet> i'll mess with it some more.
[08:19] <oblibsnig> blue-frog tried both 7667 and 7164 (legacy)
[08:19] <erUSUL> gritt, just ask
[08:19] <dura> devilz_, man iptables
[08:19] <soundray> benplaut: BusyBox!
[08:19] <bur[n] er> kapputu: sure
[08:19] <ie43> hey, I have a logitech quickcam express camera, Ive set it up on ubuntu before but forgot how, can someone help me please?
[08:19] <bur[n] er> kapputu: it's QT based though
[08:19] <blue-frog> oblibsnig, should have tried nvidia-glx (not legacy)
[08:19] <nickrud> sirius, !restricted has some info on flash for amd, feedback would be welcome
[08:19] <benplaut> yeah, right soundray
[08:20] <Meaulnes> anyone has ndiswrapper-tools been removed from breezy?
[08:20] <sirius> nickrud ?? huh
[08:20] <oblibsnig> blue-frog yeah, that's what nvidia-glx is, 7667
[08:20] <benplaut> OK, time's up, i'm going with flux
[08:20] <bur[n] er> kapputu: i use evolution though ;)
[08:20] <soundray> Meaulnes, ndiswrapper-utils
[08:20] <oblibsnig> blue-frog, nvidia-glx-legacy is 7164 or so
[08:21] <kapputu> bur[n] er, evolution is slow on my machine
[08:21] <maruchan> I wondering if someon can help me out, i installed a new sata drive last night.. what do i have to do for my system can see it
[08:21] <bur[n] er> kapputu: what's wrong with thunderbird and teh calendar plugin?
[08:21] <blue-frog> oblibsnig, and prior to this u installed no other nvidia driver, correct? u did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable afterwards?
[08:21] <Meaulnes> soundry, when I filter on ndis in adept, that package does not show up ... I have all of the repositories enabled in sources.list
[08:21] <bur[n] er> s/plugin/extension
[08:21] <IRC_> soundray: whats that thing again? ~cd/Desktop
[08:21] <kapputu> bur[n] er, was not even aware of that
[08:21] <oblibsnig> blue-frog yeah
[08:21] <kapputu> bur[n] er, I just need a 'to do' or notes plugin
[08:21] <blue-frog> oblibsnig, on breezy, correct?
[08:21] <maruchan> i see my new drive in disk manger.. but what do i do form here
[08:21] <maruchan> any help
[08:21] <soundray> IRC_, not sure what you mean.
[08:21] <maruchan> ?
[08:22] <oblibsnig> blue-frog yeah
[08:22] <dr_willis> maruchan,  what are you trying to do with it?
[08:22] <Meaulnes> Package ndiswrapper-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:22] <Meaulnes> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:22] <Meaulnes> is only available from another source
[08:22] <IRC_> soundray: i have to do ~cd/Desktop to change the directory in terminal
[08:22] <kevogod> Has anyone gotten Gens to compile under Ubuntu?
[08:22] <Meaulnes> what does that mean?
[08:22] <maruchan> i just want to save stuff on my hd
[08:22] <navarone> kapputu> you can try gdesklets as well...they may have a desklets for notes or sticky notes...
[08:22] <soundray> IRC_, do you mean 'cd ~/Desktop' ?
[08:22] <Liket> i'm trying to make an init.d script to automatically run a daemon as a non-privileged user.. how can i automate it? 'sudo -u user' asks for password
[08:23] <erUSUL> !tell Meaulnes about sources
[08:23] <soundray> IRC_, cd = change directory ; the rest is the destination
[08:23] <IRC_> soundray: thats t! then i go sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[08:23] <kapputu> bur[n] er, kontact failed under xfce
[08:23] <soundray> IRC_, if your deb is on the Desktop, yes.
[08:23] <SoulPropagation> where are the 2.6.12 headers
[08:23] <IRC_> soundray: sweeet
[08:23] <sirius> nickrud ?? where do i leave feedback
[08:24] <kapputu> a lot of apps don't work well under xfce
[08:24] <soundray> IRC_, MP3s in your ears?
[08:24] <Xenguy> kapputu: I haven't observed that yet
[08:24] <Meaulnes> thanks erUSUL
[08:24] <nickrud> sirius, good question :) I'm not sure how the wiki handles that.
[08:24] <kevogod> I'll ask again, has anyone here gotten Gens to compile under Ubuntu?
[08:25] <rootz> hi guys, ubuntu don't have a xeon smp kernel?
[08:25] <sirius> nickrud ?? gpflash or what ever sucks doesnt work lol just crashes the browser
[08:25] <rootz> i'm using the amd64 version
[08:25] <rootz> i can only se k8-smp
[08:25] <bur[n] er> kapputu: i think mozilla's calendar has a todo list
[08:25] <bur[n] er> kapputu: it failed???
[08:25] <nickrud> sirius, that's what i've heard before :) how about the compiled version?
[08:25] <kapputu> bur[n] er, yeah it didn't start, some problem with connecting to the X server
[08:26] <bur[n] er> kapputu: Xfce has a notes plugin for the panel!
[08:26] <IRC_> soundray: i still need "libid3tag0" and "libmad0"
[08:26] <sirius> nickrud i would have to try and compile sec
[08:26] <rmbrain> I used graveman to burn an audio cd....when I put it in the CD player, the sound fades in and out sometimes...what can i do to make my cd's not do that anymore?
[08:26] <bur[n] er> kapputu: are you trying it from a term?  maybe you should just do "alt+f2, kontact"
[08:26] <rootz> linux-image-amd64-xeon
[08:26] <rootz> this version is smp?
[08:27] <soundray> IRC_, pool/main/libi/libid3tag/libid3tag0_0.15.1b-7_amd64.deb
[08:27] <kapputu> damn even alt+f2 isn't working
[08:27] <Xenguy> ww
[08:27] <kapputu> what the heck
[08:27] <Xenguy> kapputu: ^-F2
[08:27] <erUSUL> IRC_, whay aren't you using synaptic or apt to install mp3 support??
[08:27] <Xen> or if nobody knows about that--getting totem to work with ALSA would be fine too
[08:27] <soundray> IRC_, pool/main/libm/libmad/libmad0_0.15.1b-2.1_amd64.deb
[08:27] <erUSUL> !tell IRC_ about mp3
[08:27] <soundray> IRC_, you need to substitute your arch.
[08:27] <bur[n] er> kapputu: wow, you have issues ;)
[08:27] <SoulPropagation> !kernelheaders
[08:27] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: Not a clue
[08:27] <SoulPropagation> !kernel-headers
[08:27] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: I give up, what is it?
[08:27] <sirius> nickrud Why havent you tried it yet :P ?
[08:28] <nickrud> sirius, I don't have amd
[08:28] <sirius> o
[08:28] <IRC_> soundray: arch?
[08:28] <oblibsnig> erUSUL he's installing to a machine with no internet
[08:28] <soundray> IRC_, i386 or whatever.
[08:28] <kapputu> what's PEBCAK ?
[08:28] <SoulPropagation> hehe
[08:28] <kapputu> ok brb guys
[08:28] <amonkey> is there a package that will let oss apps work on esd? i don't know much about how the sound system works, is there a wrapper for oss>esd?
[08:28] <IRC_> soundray: whew! i though that step was going to be hard :lol:
[08:28] <Xenguy> kampasky_: YDWTK
[08:28] <Xenguy> hah
[08:28] <Xenguy> nm
[08:28] <johnny> anybody know about keyboards related to ubuntu and x11 ?
[08:29] <johnny> i'm definitely having a problem
[08:29] <Xen> can Totem work with ALSA?
[08:29] <ster> xenguy - do you use xen?
[08:29] <sirius> what was the basic build packages get command ?
[08:29] <johnny> Xen, of course it can..
[08:29] <johnny> any gstreamer app can
[08:29] <Xen> johnny, how?
[08:29] <Xenguy> ster: funnily enough, no :-)
[08:29] <Liket> how can i create a startup script to run a daemon as a specific non-privileged user?
[08:29] <sirius> to use make and configure command ?
[08:29] <johnny> set your audio preferences
[08:29] <rootz> does anyone runs amd64 on xeon em64t?
[08:29] <Xen> johnny, where at
[08:29] <Xenguy> ster: but my nick came first historically :P
[08:29] <johnny> Liket, look at start-stop-daemon manpage
[08:29] <johnny> it's under preferences
[08:29] <ster> k
[08:29] <SoulPropagation> Liket: sudo -u username command?
[08:29] <johnny> somewhere
[08:29] <johnny> multimedia system
[08:30] <sirius> nickrud how do i get the build package ? to build programs ?
[08:30] <Liket> johnny: i tried that, but it says nothing about how to run as a specific user
[08:30] <Meaulnes> OK, so I got the supported repositories from the URL from the bot .... but after apt-get update, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils still tells me the package has been obsoleted. Could it be becuase this is a PowerPC processor?
[08:30] <IRC_> soundray: will that also let me edit mp3 tags?
[08:30] <ster> looking to set up xen or wine on ubuntu - work application only windoze
[08:30] <johnny> there are args
[08:30] <johnny> for it
[08:30] <Liket> SoulPropagation: i tried that, but it asks for password, i need something that is automated
[08:30] <johnny> something like chuid
[08:30] <johnny> Liket, there is definitely an option to change the user
[08:30] <johnny> go find it
[08:30] <ster> xen to soon be added to kernel
[08:30] <soundray> IRC_, don't think so. It's just a lib after all.
[08:30] <johnny> so.. who here knows about keyboards? :)
[08:30] <sirius> What is the Get Build Esentals Command or what ever ?
[08:31] <IRC_> soundray: ok thanks i think i got it now
[08:31] <SoulPropagation> johnny: me
[08:31] <ster> what about keyboards?
[08:31] <nickrud> sirius, sudo apt-get install build-essential ; maybe you might not want to do this :)
[08:31] <Xenguy> Xen: I believe that; very tertiary I presume
[08:31] <erUSUL> Meaulnes, ndiswrapper can not work on ppc
[08:31] <Liket> johnny: oh you're right actually :) -c.. thanks
[08:31] <navarone> johnny> Im no Mavis Beaqcon but I'll try...<s>
[08:31] <bur[n] er> Liket: put yourself in the sudo file so it doesn't prompt for a password
[08:31] <johnny> rpessing any key on gdm login svcreen.. makes it change res
[08:31] <Liket> i missed that
[08:31] <Meaulnes> erUSUL, i was afraid of that .... poppy
[08:31] <Liket> burner: /etc/sudoers ?
[08:31] <bur[n] er> Liket: yep
[08:31] <SoulPropagation> johnny: what the hell?! o.o
[08:31] <johnny> ihave a snippet from the logfile if you are interested
[08:31] <ster> what keyboard layout did you choose?
[08:31] <johnny> it's 3 lines
[08:32] <bur[n] er> burner  ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:32] <Liket> thanks all! :)
[08:32] <bur[n] er> Liket: a line like that ^---
[08:32] <ster> any canucks here???
[08:32] <SoulPropagation> ster: why?
[08:32] <holy_cow> well of course
[08:32] <ster> Canadians? nuxusrs?
[08:32] <navarone> ster...yes
[08:32] <Xenguy> ster: all kinds
[08:33] <ster> I'm in nfalls no lug - only nixusr I know
[08:33] <sirius> nickrud compile version doesnt work at all lol
[08:33] <nickrud> sirius, thanks
[08:33] <ster> any nfalls canucks?
[08:33] <sirius> nickrud still need a flash player :P any suggestions
[08:34] <ster> want to set-up LUG nfalls ON CA
[08:34] <kapputu> bur[n] er, what are PEBCAK issues??
[08:34] <navarone> ster> I don't attend user groups myself. When the internet is with you...you havea  large user group to seek support from
[08:34] <bur[n] er> kapputu: google is your friend
[08:34] <ster> problem exists betwixt keyboard and chair
[08:34] <ichigo23> does anyone knows which is the spanish channel of ubuntu?
[08:34] <apokryphos> ichigo23: #ubuntu-es
[08:34] <ptlo> #ubuntu-es ?
[08:34] <ichigo23> ok
[08:34] <ichigo23> thank you
[08:34] <johnny> SoulPropagation, http://pastebin.com/438035
[08:35] <nickrud> sirius, not really, except maybe installing firefox and flashplayer-mozilla in a chroot. There're instructions for that out there somewhere, I think.
[08:35] <kapputu> bur[n] er, how do you know it was me?
[08:35] <ster> in person would be cool - I am fihgting with a mortgage program and its installer - crossover and wine no good - that why I ask bout xen
[08:36] <ster> no official wine pkg for ubuntu?
[08:36] <nickrud> sirius, to be less ambiguous, that's running the 32bit versions in the chroot
[08:36] <Xenguy> ster: xen doesn't do d0ze last I looked
[08:36] <ster> must use deb?
[08:36] <navarone> ster> I know nothing or wine...except that it is made in your region...lol
[08:36] <johnny> ster, you can check it out too..
[08:36] <johnny> i certainly wouldn't mind
[08:36] <Xenguy> haha
[08:36] <johnny> this isn't my box .. i'm trying to fix it for a friend
[08:36] <SoulPropagation> johnny: i can tell you that that's probly not a kb problem
[08:36] <johnny> i normally use gentoo
[08:37] <johnny> but i always install ubuntu for friends
[08:37] <johnny> well.. the log entries seem to say that it it has wrong keyboard mappings..
[08:37] <rootz> i have a dual xeon HT em64t (4 procs), what kernel should use: amd64-smp or amd64-xeon? the xeon version have smp enabled?
[08:37] <ster> set screen rez inside gnome
[08:37] <ster> mine booted to bad video at first - 1280 etc..
[08:37] <sirius> Xen: you running 64 bit ?
[08:38] <johnny> this is not the crux of the problem?
[08:38] <johnny> #
[08:38] <johnny> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
[08:38] <johnny> #
[08:38] <johnny> > Warning:          Multiple interpretations of "NoSymbol+AnyOfOrNone(all)"
[08:38] <johnny> #
[08:38] <Liket> what's a good way to make my custom init.d scripts run at bootup?
[08:38] <Xenguy> sirius: no I'm running cheap 32 :P
[08:38] <Xen> sirius, yes I am
[08:38] <johnny> >                   Using last definition for duplicate fields
[08:38] <navarone> ster> System/Preferences/Screen resolution
[08:38] <johnny> OOP!!
[08:38] <johnny> sorry
[08:38] <ster> when you have four procs - need help?? go back to one
[08:38] <sirius> Xen: does Mozzila support Flash ? for 64 bit or how are you doing flash ?
[08:38] <johnny> thought that was going to be two lines.. like it is in pastebin..
[08:38] <rootz> nobody has this information
[08:38] <ster> I just installed flash in fox to ubuntu badger
[08:39] <rootz> if amd64-xeon kernel has smp enabled?
[08:39] <Xen> sirius, I've just started messing with Ubuntu & AMD64 kernels last night (I've been using Debian 3.1 w/ K7 kernel)
[08:39] <ster> run sh in term. - no prob
[08:39] <johnny> it's like the keys to control the x settings are mapped wrong
[08:39] <sirius> Xen: o lol
[08:39] <ster> sh script in terminal
[08:39] <johnny> like ctrl + alt + bksp
[08:39] <sylvain> salut
[08:39] <navarone> rootz> for smp enabled you need the one marked -smp I would think
[08:40] <ster> restart gnome - not rez change
[08:41] <Xen> sirius, it looks like 64-bit is out for the time being
[08:41] <Xen> sirius, according to the installer
[08:41] <ster> sorry gtg
[08:41] <Liket> what's a good way to make my custom init.d scripts run at bootup? should i just add a symlink of my startup script to /etc/rc2.d ?  what's the default ubuntu (breezy) runlevel?
[08:41] <PinTo> l o i'm trying to get grubconf pakages but its unavailable...does n e 1 have a link
[08:41] <sirius> Xen: yea i saw that, will firefox let you install the 32bit version of it self on AMD64 ?
[08:42] <guestish> mmm...xchat
[08:42] <Xen> sirius, http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=184&threadid=1000183&enterthread=y
[08:42] <SoulPropagation> where are the kernel headers for 2.6.12?
[08:43] <trappist> apt-get install linux-headers
[08:43] <SoulPropagation> ah, thanks
[08:43] <sirius> Xen: o thats neat lol
[08:43] <SoulPropagation> (i was using linux-kernel-headers)
[08:46] <Xen> I set the multimedia thing to use ALSA and I also tried ESD--neither works
[08:46] <jemt_> Hi. I'm trying to mount a samba share (shared on Ubuntu) on my other Ubuntu machine (LiveCD!). This is the command I use : mount -t smbfs -o username=usr,password=psw //ip/folder /mnt/remote   <= What is wrong here? I get this error : Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on ... etc etc
[08:46] <rabies> jemt_: if smbfs isnt installed you'd get those errors...
[08:46] <aarkerio> can I compile my kernel without lost the nice boot splash ?
[08:47] <jemt_> rabies: I thought it was available on the Live CD
[08:47] <jemt_> Bummer
[08:47] <rabies> jemt_: might be, i dunno
[08:47] <jemt_> Okay
[08:47] <rabies> jemt_: just saying if it wasnt then you'd get those errors
[08:47] <jemt_> Ok, IC
[08:48] <Goatocausto> hi all !!
[08:48] <jemt_> Well, got smbclient installed. Don't know if that is any help
[08:48] <Goatocausto> well :) i got Ubuntu running atm and it rocks but still trying to figure out a lot of things :S
[08:48] <rabies> jemt_: smbclient isnt the same thing
[08:48] <rabies> jemt_: btw, if you are sharing from ubuntu to ubuntu use NFS
[08:49] <HappyFool> jemt_: try 'smbclient -L ip -U user%pass' as a test
[08:49] <rabies> !tell jemt_ about nfs
[08:49] <jemt_> HappyFool: Ok :)
[08:49] <rabies> jemt_: samba is for windows compatibility
[08:49] <jemt_> rabies: I know
[08:49] <rabies> kk
[08:50] <Goatocausto> is there a way that i can view/atleast "read" my xp ntfs partition within ubuntu ??
[08:50] <PinTo> TTFN
[08:50] <holy_cow> time to try xfce on this old laptop
[08:50] <jemt_> HappyFool: I got a list of shared ressources :D
[08:50] <rabies> lol
[08:50] <rabies> he quit..
[08:51] <HappyFool> jemt_: and 'locate smbfs.ko' ?
[08:51] <HappyFool> jemt_: also, you can try '-t cifs' instead of '-t smbfs' (i can't remember which is preferred)
[08:51] <jemt_> HappyFool: Result : /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/fs/smbfs/smbfs.ko
[08:52] <jemt_> HappyFool: I'll give it a go .)
[08:52] <rabies> jemt_: so you got the smbfs module, modprobe it and try again
[08:52] <kakei> hi guys im using a Ubuntu 64 live CD but i need to use sudo, but i don't know the password
[08:52] <jemt_> HappyFool: Wohoo, 'cifs' worked !
[08:52] <kakei> how can i know the password if ubuntu never ask
[08:52] <SoulPropagation> http://pastebin.com/438055
[08:52] <jemt_> Thanks alot !
[08:52] <Knowerrors> Anybody here using firestarter? I need help with it please...
[08:52] <jemt_> :D
[08:52] <rabies> kakei: should be a default somewhere...
[08:52] <jemt_> Knowerrors: Firestarter rules :)
[08:53] <HappyFool> jemt_: have fun
[08:53] <jemt_> HappyFool: Thanks :)
[08:53] <SoulPropagation> kakei: the password is ubuntu
[08:53] <HappyFool> kakei: try just enter (blank password)
[08:53] <SoulPropagation> kakei: i think. otherwise do passwd
[08:53] <HappyFool> kakei: i think there's also a root console at terminal 2 (Ctl-Alt-F2)
[08:53] <kakei> Soul : ubuntu isn't the pw, and HappyFool enter isnt neither
[08:53] <arnducky> kakei, # sudu passwd
[08:54] <arnducky> And then use your user passwd
[08:54] <HappyFool> kakei: hrm. and if you start a root terminal ?
[08:54] <HappyFool> or is that not available in breezy?
[08:54] <arnducky> Or if you're totally b0rked just reboot to the recovery kernel
[08:54] <kakei> how can i start a root terminal
[08:54] <Knowerrors> jemt_: I  installed Firestarter, and now if its on, I have 0 net access
[08:54] <HappyFool> arnducky: he's on the live cd
[08:55] <arnducky> HappyFool, Ubuntu does everything with sudo... ohhh I see
[08:55] <jemt_> Knowerrors: Default setup ?
[08:55] <HappyFool> kakei: have you tried Ctl-Alt-F2 yet? you can get back to X with Alt-F7
[08:55] <Knowerrors> jemt_: yes
[08:55] <kakei> i tried already Happy
[08:56] <SoulPropagation> http://pastebin.com/438055
[08:56] <foampeace> hi
[08:56] <SoulPropagation> can anyone help?
[08:56] <jemt_> Knowerrors: That is wierd. Sorry, don't think I can help you. The default setup gives you open access from your computer onto the internet. It blocks trafic the other way
[08:56] <HappyFool> well, i'd boot the livecd in qemu to check but it takes about 30 minutes to get to a prompt
[08:56] <jemt_> afaik
[08:56] <foampeace> how do i make my sound card work for multiple programs?
[08:56] <Goatocausto> hmn so how do i install xfce on here? and?? is there any way i can get to read off my ntfs partition ?
[08:57] <dragonbyte> Hey, I just installed ubuntu breezy and can't get DVD playback to work with xine or totem
[08:57] <dragonbyte> spitting errors about unable to read NAV packet
[08:57] <dragonbyte> mplayer however seems to be able to play the DVD fine
[08:57] <dragonbyte> any ideas?
[08:57] <HappyFool> SoulPropagation: install gcc-3.4
[08:57] <ptlo> SoulPropagation, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638&highlight=vmware
[08:57] <foampeace> dragonbyte: not sure...do you have like gstreamer-dvd
[08:58] <HappyFool> SoulPropagation: ah, maybe my guess is wrong
[08:58] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of a way to make the data transfer from a windows samba share faster?
[08:58] <blue-frog> lsuactiafner, faster than what?
[08:58] <lsuactiafner> its a gigabit network, can do 13m/s but its doing only 3mb/s now
[08:58] <dragonbyte> foampeace, yes
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> and both disks and cpus can support that speeds..
[08:59] <blue-frog> lsuactiafner, all your cards are gigabyte?
[08:59] <foampeace> dragonbyte: totem-gstreamer?
[08:59] <foampeace> dragonbyte: you got the w32 codecs?
[08:59] <dragonbyte> foampeace: yes
[08:59] <foampeace> i think you have to do something in totem to enable the codecs
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> blue-frog : yeh and ftp transfers are 13mb/s
[08:59] <foampeace> theres something in the wiki
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> and scp transfers
[08:59] <dragonbyte> xine-ui and totem-gstreamer
[09:00] <foampeace> dragonbyte: lookup in the wiki about totem codecs
[09:00] <lsuactiafner> just copying from the windows share or to the share is 3mb/s
[09:00] <foampeace> dragonbyte: dragonbyte have you looked there?
[09:00] <yeik2> nas
[09:00] <ironuckles> Hello, I have been experiencing crashing in Ubuntu 5.10. How do I report this?
[09:00] <soundray> lsuactiafner, sounds like a MS Windows problem to me.
[09:00] <rmbrain> does anybody know where i can get the w32codecs?
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> soundray : windows pcs can copy @ 13mb/s
[09:01] <yeik2> ups el canal en spanish?
[09:01] <blue-frog> lsuactiafner, sry don't know then, have u tried looking at samba.org > by example to see if they say anything about it?
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> somewhere samba is doing something wrong
[09:01] <theCore> how do i configure WEP for my atheros wifi card, in breezy ?
[09:01] <arnducky> ubotu, tell rmbrain about restricted
[09:01] <oscarmv> Hey, how do I point  totem to a specific directory to look for codecs?
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> opening samba.org now
[09:01] <dragonbyte> they only thing i have been able to find is a bunch of nonsense about libdvdcss2
[09:01] <dragonbyte> and i have that installed
[09:01] <dragonbyte> and its working since mplayer can play the dvd
[09:01] <foampeace> dragonbyte: maybe this? Commercial DVDs: Commercial DVDs are encrypted with CSS (Content Scrambling System). In order to play most commercial DVDs in Ubuntu you will need libdvdcss2 which is provided in Hoary-Extras. totem, xine-ui, and gxine all support DVD menus and subtitles.
[09:02] <logical_mark> Hey guys. I am using SPM to install Apache, PHP, mySQL, and phpMyAdmin. It downloads 19/25 packages and then asks me to insert the cd, Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release Candidate i386 (20051005)
[09:02] <logical_mark> in drive /cdrom/, and I do but it does not recognize it. I have tried three other official disks that were mailed to me and work in other computers. Does this have to do with the fact that I upgraded to Breezy Badger instead of  a new install?
[09:02] <ironuckles> Totem randomly crashes Linux... How the heck do I report something like this?
[09:02] <dragonbyte> foampeace: no dice, i have libdvdcss2, and mplayer works fine
[09:02] <foampeace> dragonbyte: isnt there an option in totem to enable the codeds
[09:02] <SoulPropagation> !tell yeik2 about es
[09:02] <HappyFool> logical_mark: did you use apt-cdrom to 'add' the cdrom to sources.list ?
[09:02] <dragonbyte> foampeace: no idea really, i was using xine before i decided to just install full blown ubuntu
[09:02] <arnducky> dragonbyte, you could try updating your libdvdnav
[09:02] <lsuactiafner> ironuckles : i think its totem not releasing the graphics card.. totem bug not linux bug
[09:02] <dragonbyte> arnducky: newest, this is a fresh install
[09:03] <rmbrain> ubotu, tell rmbrain about !FreeFormats
[09:03] <HappyFool> ironuckles: take a look at bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:03] <johnny> so.. any ideas?
[09:03] <ironuckles> lsuactiafner, when it crashes, Linux DIES. I have to manually shut down my laptop and reboot
[09:03] <arnducky> scratch on the disc could do that too -- you say it's happening under *all* players?
[09:03] <rmbrain> ubotu, tell rmbrain about FreeFormats
[09:03] <dragonbyte> i went from debian -> knoppix -> ubuntu through sources.list, finally decided to install ubuntu fresh and now all my stuff is broken :(
[09:03] <foampeace> dragonbyte: http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
[09:03] <dragonbyte> arnducky: mplayer plays the dvd fine
[09:03] <logical_mark> HappyFool, no I never did that
[09:03] <lsuactiafner> try mplayer instead of totem
[09:03] <soundray> ironuckles, how do you know it dies?
[09:03] <arnducky> that is *interesting*
[09:04] <HappyFool> logical_mark: how did you upgrade?
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> there is a reason why mplayer is the most downloaded software on freshmeat.net 30% more popular than linux itself
[09:04] <arnducky> Maybe mplayer uses a different library
[09:04] <HappyFool> logical_mark: i mean, using the CD, or via network download?
[09:04] <ironuckles> soundray, it seems that X crashes, and then restarts, then crashes again... ect.
[09:04] <logical_mark> HappyFool: Network download
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> ironuckles : try mplayer.
[09:04] <dragonbyte> and running xine in a terminal i see it get the keys and such
[09:04] <foampeace> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totem_%28media_player%29
[09:04] <dragonbyte> it just keeps saying it cant read the disk, and something about the stupid NAV packet
[09:04] <sirius> Xen if you figure out this crap i cant even install a 32 bit version lol
[09:05] <nickrud> dragonbyte, do you have totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[09:05] <HappyFool> logical_mark: hrm. i recommend removing the cd entry from sources.list and adding the cd using apt-cdrom
[09:05] <dragonbyte> totem-gstreamer
[09:05] <arnducky> lsuactiafner, yeah and that reason is called 'MIME type'  it's the default mpeg plugin/streaming video for Mozilla/Gecko
[09:05] <dragonbyte> and xine-ui
[09:05] <HappyFool> logical_mark: or just omit the cd entirely, and install only from the network (assuming you have the bandwidth)
[09:05] <nickrud> dragonbyte, install totem-xine
[09:05] <N3R0> does anyone know where i can find the deb package of  j2sdk1.4_1.4.2_8?
[09:05] <logical_mark> HappyFool: How should I do that? Yeah I have the bandwidth
[09:05] <nickrud> dragonbyte, it uses xine (and w32codecs) as the backend
[09:05] <johnny> anybody know where i can find the deb package that will fix my eyboard issues? :)
[09:05] <theCore> how do i configure WEP for my atheros wifi card, in breezy ? I was able to do it in hoary, but since upgraded WEP doesn't work ... :(
[09:05] <HappyFool> logical_mark: in sources.list, uncomment the 'deb cdrom:' entry
[09:05] <foampeace> ANyone know why i cant play audio into more then one app at once?
[09:05] <HappyFool> logical_mark: err
[09:06] <arnducky> dragonbyte, does this happen at initialization or midstream?
[09:06] <HappyFool> logical_mark: i mean, comment out (put a # in front of the line)
[09:06] <johnny> foampeace, your soundcard lacks hardware mixing
[09:06] <protok0l> hello all
[09:06] <N3R0> does anyone know where i can find the deb package of  j2sdk1.4_1.4.2_8?
[09:06] <johnny> either use a sound server.. or dxix with alsa
[09:06] <foampeace> johnny: nforce2?
[09:06] <johnny> err dmix*
[09:06] <HappyFool> logical_mark: then run 'aptitude update' and then try your install again
[09:06] <protok0l> i just did the most recent upgrades, and now my sound stopped working. where do i start troubleshooting it?
[09:06] <johnny> yeah.. nforce == no hardware mixing
[09:06] <HappyFool> !tell N3R0 about javadeb
[09:06] <logical_mark> where is sources.list HappyFool?
[09:06] <foampeace> johnny: crap
[09:06] <dragonbyte> arnducky: init
[09:06] <foampeace> johnny: thanks
[09:06] <johnny> foampeace, dmix with alsa should work
[09:06] <arnducky> N3R0, it's on the Sun website, but you can isntall it with Synaptic
[09:06] <dragonbyte> nickrud: ok well totem-xine gives an error about libdvdcss2
[09:06] <HappyFool> logical_mark: ah, sorry. it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <HappyFool> logical_mark: you can also disable the CD in synaptic
[09:07] <foampeace> johnny: say what?
[09:07] <dragonbyte> nickrud: but I have libdvdcss2
[09:07] <johnny> it is default on kernel 2.6.13 , but there is no 2.6.13 in ubuntu yet
[09:07] <arnducky> dragonbyte, did you compile from CVS?
[09:07] <dragonbyte> i havnt compiled anything
[09:07] <johnny> wellk at least not in breezy..
[09:07] <dragonbyte> apt-get
[09:07] <nickrud> I need to buy a dvd player
[09:07] <N3R0> !tell arnducky thanks
[09:07] <johnny> so foampeace you will have to create .asoundrc in your ~/
[09:07] <johnny> there are quite a few tutorials on the alsa site
[09:08] <foampeace> johnny: ok i saw there before...hopefully it will work....no dmix needed then?
[09:08] <dragonbyte> how do I convince totem that libdvdcss is there?
[09:08] <johnny> hmm?
[09:08] <arnducky> dragonbyte, did you install libdvdcss after xine-ui, or before?
[09:08] <johnny> yeah.. you will need dmix ..
[09:08] <dragonbyte> arnducky: both
[09:08] <johnny> err configure dmix
[09:08] <dragonbyte> arnducky: after initially
[09:08] <arnducky> Maybe it's not statically linked anymore, or it's in the wrong path
[09:09] <johnny> unless you have a 2.6.13 kernel
[09:09] <jenda> arnducky: I tried tha URL you gave me on low memory for partitioner, but there is no uboto.com
[09:09] <arnducky> dragonbyte, totem is aPoS -- I never use it -- excpet as a plugin/MIME handler
[09:10] <johnny> there's got to be somebody here who knows more about the X11 setup  :(
[09:10] <logical_mark> HappyFool: That worked perfectly thanks for the help
[09:10] <dragonbyte> arnducky: I cant get xine to work either
[09:10] <arnducky> You have xine-ui or gxine, not just the backend xinelib, right?
[09:10] <johnny> true..
[09:11] <arnducky> Oh, sorry jenda -- that was 'tyop'
[09:11] <dragonbyte> xine-ui
[09:11] <arnducky> And BTW, I looked for awhile and couldn't find a 'system requirements' page int eh FAQ, Install guide or anywhere
[09:12] <jenda> arnducky: hehe... is it ubotu.com? I couldn't find it eithre..
[09:12] <arnducky> ubuntu.com
[09:12] <jenda> arnducky: OH that!
[09:12] <jenda> arnducky: I didn't find it there yet.
[09:12] <HappyFool> dragonbyte: this isn't much help, but DVD's work ok for me with totem-xine.  Have you tried something like 'strace totem' to check if the libs are being loaded correctly ?
[09:12] <arnducky> (or many TLDs have their own translation now: ubuntu.de for ex.)
[09:12] <furryotter> exit
[09:13] <dragonbyte> HappyFool: not really sure what I would be lookin for
[09:13] <arnducky> Yeah, me neitehr, because I was interested in what the minimal hardware requirements for breezy are too.  Did you try the Live CD?
[09:13] <foampeace> will an sblive play multiple sounds?
[09:13] <HappyFool> dragonbyte: for when it opens libdvdcss2, for one
[09:13] <foampeace> johnny: will an sblive have hardware mixing?
[09:13] <dragonbyte> happyfool: well i figured that much :P, it just scrolls a ton of stuff
[09:14] <johnny> no idea
[09:14] <johnny> most likely
[09:14] <johnny> but i've never had one
[09:14] <johnny> if it uses ac97.. then no
[09:14] <jenda> arnducky: the liveCD min req are written on the box. 128. Did'nt have the pationce, it took 30 mins to "create user"
[09:14] <HappyFool> dragonbyte: i see this in an strace output: open("/usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 25    -- which means libdvdcss2 was at least opened correctly
[09:14] <ubuntu> most soundcards dont play multiple sounds
[09:14] <arnducky> I was afraid of that
[09:14] <HappyFool> dragonbyte: i get a bunch of error messages from libdvdnav but the dvd plays ok anyway
[09:14] <jenda> arnducky: Hey! It's on the box! 128 for ubuntu install too...
[09:15] <jenda> arnducky: Alright... no chance for my friend there...
[09:15] <jenda> I can try finding him a diff distro... vector linux looks aluring :)
[09:16] <foampeace> johnny: how can i tell or you by looking here? http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+5.1.&chip=emu10k1&module=emu10k1
[09:16] <arnducky> You see, on the ship-it page it says something about one user giving their 'worthless' 64 MB stick of SDRAM away so the other user might be able to install...
[09:16] <arnducky> jenda, you could try Hoary too
[09:16] <dragonbyte> happyfool: it looks like it loads it correctly
[09:16] <n0dl> can someone help me... I just got a printer (canon s300) how would i go about setting this up?
[09:17] <jenda> arnducky: It had HW problems. I don't remember anymore what it was...
[09:17] <arnducky> jenda, and Sarge will still install on like 24 MB
[09:17] <johnny> SoulPropagation, mv /etc/X11/xkb and reinstalling xkeyboard-config seemd to get me past the gdm login scren
[09:17] <dragonbyte> I cant believe a fresh ubuntu install has destroyed my dvdplayback capabilities
[09:17] <johnny> so that's a good start
[09:17] <protok0l> i just did the most recent upgrades, and now my sound stopped working. where do i start troubleshooting it?
[09:17] <jenda> arnducky: That's worth a try!
[09:17] <SoulPropagation> johnny: well congratulations :)
[09:17] <stratovarius> hey all
[09:17] <arnducky> We should take this to off-topic though since it's no longer ubuntu
[09:18] <stratovarius> who my tell me a good "how to" to configure samba?
[09:18] <jenda> arnducky: no prob - there's no more to discuss :)
[09:18] <HappyFool> dragonbyte: maybe try vlc as an alternative if you don't like mplayer
[09:18] <arnducky>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:18] <stratovarius> *may
[09:18] <foampeace> johnny: says hardware mixxing supported on sblive
[09:18] <arnducky> Well, where is your friend
[09:19] <protok0l> My sound stopped working. Where can I find a troubleshooting guide or similar?
[09:19] <moaltmann> Hello, I have just installed Ubuntu5.10 (i386), after the reboot the install screen installed/confgured further packages and then displayed "There was a problem installing the selected software...". after an erroneous keystroke I was thrown to the console I have the last msg from all consoles but then did a C-M-Del. The reboot went through the graphical startup and dumped me into the console (login). Any suggestions on how to finish the
[09:19] <moaltmann> installation?
[09:19] <dragonbyte> happyfool: I like xine...thats the problem
[09:19] <wobster> is there some repair-method for the pkg-db. I'm afraid I messed it up during hoary->breezy upgrade
[09:19] <stratovarius> nobody can help me?
[09:19] <dragonbyte> HappyFool: and it worked fine before i did a fresh install
[09:19] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  there are DOzens of samba docs/tutorials and books out on the WWW. the ubuntu wikis are the first place to hit however.
[09:19] <dragonbyte> Read error from: Error reading NAV packet. is all I can get
[09:20] <rmbrain> why is it that whenever im done watching a movie with mplayer in mozilla firefox, the Trash comes up in Nautilus?
[09:20] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  samba can be rather complex at times.. and lots of little 'details' dependong on what you want to do with it.
[09:20] <stratovarius> dr_willis I gotta understand a thing only. Does samba have to be installed to windows also?
[09:21] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  No.
[09:21] <dr_willis> samba is the linux  version  of "smb" - which is what windows uses.
[09:21] <dr_willis> SaMBa
[09:21] <dr_willis> to put it in 'simple' terms. :P
[09:22] <stratovarius> dr_willis I gotta configure my ubuntu only without configure windows
[09:22] <infralite> heh
[09:22] <n0dl> does anyone know how i can set up a printer?
[09:22] <cornflake> !xorg
[09:22] <ubotu> xorg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:22] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  depends on what you are doing.  the basic stiff is fairly simple to get going.
[09:22] <dr_willis> !samba
[09:22] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:22] <infralite> stratovarius: places => connect to server => windows share thry that
[09:23] <infralite> "like, totally" haha
[09:23] <SoulPropagation> n0dl: well first you find another printer that yours is interested in and is probably interested in yours, and then invite them both somewhere. at some point, go to the bathroom, and they should be set up by the time you get back :)
[09:23] <ubuntu> not nice soul
[09:23] <n0dl> well... i just need a general process...
[09:24] <sel> hi
[09:25] <moaltmann> ALL: is there a channel specific to installation issues?
[09:25] <linkd> n0dl: have u checked out gnome-cups-manager ?
[09:26] <n0dl> linkd: how would i do that?
[09:26] <sel> i've got a question... What is the name of the function similar to sleep() but with miliseconds as a parametr not seconds
[09:26] <sel> ?
[09:26] <linkd> n0dl: pop open a shell, or w/e and run gnome-cups-manager
[09:26] <linkd> n0dl: then click add printer and follow the wizard
[09:26] <sel> ups... sorry it should be in #c channel...
[09:27] <sel> hehhee
[09:27] <n0dl> linkd, gnome-cups-manager is the command name right? doesnt seem to show up (bash: gnome-cups-manager: command not found)
[09:27] <n0dl> linkd: i have XFCE not gnome is that probably why?
[09:27] <linkd> hmmz. there is the apt package gnome-cups-manager
[09:27] <stratovarius> dr_willis: do I have to do sudo apt.get install samba only to install samba or do I need some other packages?
[09:27] <linkd> n0dl: no i use XFCE, i sitll have it.
[09:28] <linkd> n0dl: but u can apt-get it anyway
[09:28] <phin3as> linkd, you run xfce? I hear it's excellent.
[09:28] <n0dl> linkd: alright me try
[09:28] <linkd> phin3as: i like it.
[09:28] <n0dl> phin3as: it is
[09:28] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  not sure. thats at least the minimal. may want to use synaptic and search for samba - and see what else you see that you may need
[09:28] <stratovarius> ok tnx
[09:28] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  checking the ubuntu samba wiki - is a good idea.
[09:29] <phin3as> Who's ever run colinux? I was thinking about running it on my windows box.
[09:29] <stratovarius> dr_willis: Im looking 4 something in italian
[09:29] <stratovarius> it's simplier to underestood :D
[09:29] <stratovarius> and simplier to avoid problems
[09:29] <dr_willis> phin3as,  i twiddled with it a little. :P ran ok.
[09:29] <stratovarius> *understand
[09:30] <phin3as> dr_willis, hmm. don't go offline, I'm going to download and install it.
[09:30] <dr_willis> phin3as - all i did was follow the docs at their page. :P
[09:30] <Goatocausto> ok this is a dumb question, but, where is best for me to store my files ???
[09:30] <dr_willis> Goatocausto,  "depends"
[09:30] <n0dl> linkd: gnome-cups-manager found my printer! w007 but when i clicked the tab that says "use detected printer" theni click next it goes to some menu that has s100 highlighted
[09:30] <linkd> Goatocausto: generally just on another partition seperate from ur OS partition
[09:31] <Goatocausto> im new to the whole linux thing
[09:31] <dr_willis> the ultimate answer. :P   what files and "where" are yuou refering to?
[09:31] <n0dl> linkd: can i go ahdead and install anyway?
[09:31] <Goatocausto> and runnign a dual boot
[09:31] <logical_mark> Hey guys I run a small website for my high school and want quicktime videos like these to show on the website for people running linux. What is their best option? Or, what would be a better way to encode this video?
[09:31] <Goatocausto> kinda just toying around at the moment to get a hang of things
[09:31] <linkd> n0dl: s100 highlighted? is that a printer model?
[09:31] <phin3as> dr_willis, you can run gentoo on it or something similar can't you?
[09:31] <pinkisntwell> hey people, i'm trying to use gparted from the livecd to resize me xp ntfs partition and it doesn't work, i choose the new size, hit apply and it does nothing. any tips?
[09:31] <Goatocausto> "home" is the bulk of stuff?
[09:31] <linkd> Goatocausto: thats personal files not associated with the system
[09:31] <n0dl> linkd: no my model is s300 but it detected it earlier
[09:32] <Goatocausto> ok great yeah
[09:32] <Goatocausto> kinda like "my documents" i suppose ?
[09:32] <linkd> n0dl: ah, well mine is a 3325 HP printer and it gave me a choice of similar drivers, but not the right ones. so i choose the nearest. if that doesnt work for you, you can always go back, delete the printer setup, and start again and choose a diff driver
[09:32] <linkd> Goatocausto: yea
[09:32] <Goatocausto> i want to install Xfce too to see what thats like
[09:33] <Goatocausto> ok neat
[09:33] <n0dl> linkd: true... thanx for the advice :)
[09:33] <linkd> np
[09:33] <Goatocausto> so sorry for all the dumb questions hey, its like a new ball game but not
[09:33] <phin3as> Goatocausto, www.xfce.org
[09:33] <linkd> Goatocausto: you can just apt-get xfce
[09:33] <linkd> phin3as: ^
[09:33] <Goatocausto> mm yeah i know
[09:34] <Goatocausto> oh ok
[09:34] <Goatocausto> would that be easier or?
[09:34] <phin3as> linkd, yes, he'd have to understand what its like.. he known nothing about it. :)
[09:34] <phin3as> knows*
[09:34] <linkd> phin3as: ok fair point
[09:34] <timbalbekov> hey -- when i mount my windows partition in linux, it mounts under root. how would i give one or two applications root access to the mount?
[09:34] <timbalbekov> i currently run them under root, but thats tedius
[09:35] <varsendagger> !paste
[09:35] <linkd> Goatocausto: apt-get is exetremely easy.. and faster.. because its already been compiled for you
[09:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:35] <timbalbekov> or at least give them read-only access
[09:35] <Goatocausto> heh youre beating me
[09:35] <phin3as> linkd, aye.
[09:35] <Goatocausto> i havent figured out how to even mount my windows stuff yet :(
[09:35] <linkd> Goatocausto: the alternative would be to wait like a day for it to compile :P
[09:35] <Phoul> Will there ever be a e17 relese?
[09:35] <gar-> Question if there any way that i can play or convert to other format a .mkv file????
[09:35] <linkd> Goatocausto: ok i have a good script for finding mac & windows partitions, hold up whilst i upload it
[09:35] <trappist> timbalbekov: put umask=022 and/or uid=1000 in /etc/fstab
[09:35] <Phoul> Like for synaptic?
[09:35] <Phoul> Will there be a e17 relese?
[09:35] <libben> what do i type to update the DB? so i can use locate properly+
[09:35] <timbalbekov> goatse: try running the hard drive manager, setting the mountpoint as /mnt/, and pressing enable
[09:36] <logical_mark> How can I view quicktime video in Mozilla Firefox
[09:36] <logical_mark> ?
[09:36] <timbalbekov> trappist: will try thanks
[09:36] <gar-> Question if there any way that i can play or convert to other format a .mkv file????
[09:36] <Goatocausto> me ?? [timbal]  as to the windows thing?
[09:36] <timbalbekov> yes
[09:36] <linkd> Goatocausto: http://nullnetwork.net/winmac_fstab i cant remember where i found it, but its not my script. its out there somewhere else..
[09:36] <Goatocausto> ok cool
[09:36] <drkwolf> hi, i'm getting this error when tring to a font : xset:  bad font path element (#64), possible causes are:
[09:37] <drkwolf> *to setup
[09:37] <moaltmann> ALL: is this the right place to ask about an installation problem?
[09:37] <stratovarius> guys Im not able to configure samba.who can guide me in a how to?
[09:37] <synd> I need a sources.list
[09:38] <progbliss> OK, whenever I run configure --host i686-linux, I get an error about the compiler not being able to make executable (not exact wording). Assuming a default system, what do I need to do to fix that?
[09:38] <holy_cow> synd, google one
[09:38] <cornflake> how do i downgrade to a stable version?
[09:38] <kakei> hi guys
[09:38] <kakei> why when i tried to install ubuntu64 and ubuntu i get this http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7008/ubuntu0352kt.jpg
[09:39] <gar-> Question if there any way that i can play or convert to other format a .mkv file????
[09:39] <protok0l> !esound
[09:39] <ubotu> Not a clue, protok0l
[09:39] <protok0l> !sound
[09:39] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:39] <synd> !sources
[09:39] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:39] <pinkisntwell> hey people, i'm trying to use gparted from the livecd to resize me xp ntfs partition and it doesn't work, i choose the new size, hit apply and it does nothing. any tips?
[09:39] <kakei> why when i tried to install ubuntu64 and ubuntu i get this http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7008/ubuntu0352kt.jpg
[09:40] <drkwolf> hi, i'm getting this error when tring to a setup a new  font directory -> error : xset:  bad font path element (#64), possible causes are:
[09:40] <varsendagger> hey i have an alsa problem    http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5051
[09:41] <desibeli> how can i update hoarty to breezy?
[09:41] <varsendagger> desibeli, you'll need to get the breezy repos
[09:42] <varsendagger> tell varsendagger about repos
[09:42] <varsendagger> ubotu tell varsendagger about repos
[09:42] <desibeli> varsendagger: where?
[09:42] <varsendagger> just a sec
[09:42] <LjL> varsendagger: "/msg ubotu repos" will work, if you're regged
[09:43] <libben> what do i type to update the DB? so i can use locate properly+
[09:43] <LjL> libben: updatedb
[09:43] <libben> with sudo?
[09:43] <n0dl> linkd: how can i change the paper settings
[09:43] <varsendagger> LjL, thanks
[09:43] <LjL> libben: not sure
[09:43] <moo> whats 1000 x .03?
[09:43] <n0dl> lind: it keeps on staying on american letter... i cant seem to change it to 11x17
[09:43] <drkwolf> hi, i'm getting this error when tring to  a new  fontpath to the fontserver -> error : xset:  bad font path element (#64), possible causes are: ....
[09:44] <varsendagger> ubotu tell desibeli about repos easysource
[09:44] <gar-> how i can play a .mkv file please thanks in advance
[09:44] <n0dl> does anyone know how to change the paper size (in gnome cups manager)?
[09:44] <gar-> !mkv
[09:44] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, gar-
[09:44] <LjL> libben: stop there
[09:44] <linkd> n0dl: not sure, have u tried looking at the properties of the installed printer?
[09:44] <n0dl> yeah
[09:45] <cornflake> !xorg
[09:45] <ubotu> I guess xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:45] <n0dl> linkd: hold on imma try something right now
[09:45] <varsendagger> desibeli, did you get that?
[09:45] <linkd> ok
[09:45] <LjL> libben: type "sudo /etc/cron.daily/slocate", that should be the cleanest way
[09:45] <varsendagger> ubotu tell desibeli about repos
[09:45] <varsendagger> that should do it
[09:45] <foampeace> hi
[09:45] <LjL> libben: it's actually run automatically every day for you
[09:45] <alistair_> i'm kinda a newbee, any ideas where i find info' on the state of draper flight1
[09:45] <progbliss> how do I get wine for amd64?
[09:45] <Sam3773> Hey all, trying to run Ubuntu and get a 'No screens found' error, went through the tutorial on installing nvidia drivers but gedit wont open, throws me a "cannot open display" error :(
[09:45] <cornflake> hello
[09:45] <libben> i think i turned it of LjL
[09:45] <foampeace> how can i get fluxbox to write a default config file...it didnt
[09:45] <gar-> i luv synaptic =)
[09:46] <LjL> alistair_: i'm not sure, but i can tell you that, roughtly, the state is pre-alpha
[09:46] <varsendagger> foampeace, have you entered iinto Fluxbox yet
[09:46] <foampeace> yes im init
[09:46] <dr_willis> foampeace,  check the fluxbox docs there may be a default example.config  in some dir.
[09:46] <foampeace> ok thanks
[09:46] <alistair_> sam3773: try a terminal with nano
[09:46] <LjL> libben: well, then just run "sudo updatedb". the sudo must be ok, as it's executed as root in my cron
[09:46] <Sam3773> ... You sir are a God.
[09:47] <varsendagger> foampeace, what do you need to do? which config file do you need?
[09:47] <alistair_> got one myself you see
[09:47] <desibeli> where was the repos conf located again?
[09:47] <Sam3773> Hehe. :D
[09:47] <blue-frog> Sam3773, move to #bluefrog i'll help if possible..
[09:48] <alistair_> can't remember how i got things going though... off the top of me head
[09:48] <varsendagger> desibeli, in /etc/sources.list
[09:48] <libben> LjL: how can i check if i turned updatedb of?
[09:48] <LjL> libben: you should probably install "slocate", that's what i have installed, it's a package in "main" and it seems to have a cleaner way of working than standard "locate"
[09:48] <cornflake> does anyone know how to downgrade a system? apparently, i upgraded to dapper-drake when it wasn't as stable as i thought it'd be....
[09:48] <ErgoSum> hi all
[09:48] <n0dl> linkd: its strange... i clicked on the settings of the printer and i tried to set the paper region to "11x17" but for some reason it keeps on priting "US letter" size
[09:49] <LjL> libben: i'm not sure what you mean with "turned it off"... "sudo updatedb" should leave it chewing files for a while
[09:49] <alistair_> LjL thanks
[09:49] <libben> not here. did it on a jiffy
[09:49] <libben> like 2 secs or so
[09:49] <desibeli> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <libben> slocate does pop in terminal thou
[09:49] <ErgoSum> why flash doesnt work in firefox under ubuntu 5.10 64bits?
[09:49] <libben> so i guess its installed
[09:49] <n0dl> linkd: should i try to restart/reboot x or the whole systeM?
[09:49] <Goatocausto> is there any quick way to make the size of my onscreen fonts and stuff smaller ???
[09:49] <LjL> libben: try "apt-cache policy slocate", it'll tell you if it's installed
[09:50] <LjL> libben: but if it's installed, then you should definitely have an /etc/cron.daily/slocate
[09:50] <ErgoSum> Goatocausto, System - Preferences - Fonts?
[09:50] <libben> i have LjL i cat it
[09:50] <Goatocausto> hmn
[09:50] <libben> and it showed some thing
[09:50] <libben> s
[09:50] <Goatocausto> but stuff for the gui etc?
[09:50] <linkd> n0dl: it should be fine without the restart. so you coudl always try it but i dont think itll change anything
[09:50] <linkd> n0dl: beyond that your guess is as good as mine
[09:50] <n0dl> linkd: alright... thanx anyway
[09:51] <plumb> quit
[09:51] <moaltmann> after a failed prematurely exited install, i get thrown to the console. how do i finish the install?
[09:51] <cornflake> does anyone ever listen to me?
[09:51] <ErgoSum> why flash doesnt work in firefox under ubuntu 5.10 (64bits)?
[09:51] <linkd> cornflake: whats up?
[09:51] <Sam3773> OK so i managed to finish the Nvidia installation, but i still get a Failed to startx no screens found error
[09:52] <robotgeek> ErgoSum: i think cause they haven't released a FLash Version for Amd64
[09:52] <moaltmann> cornflake: seems like everyone's busy. I'm waiting too ;-)
[09:52] <cornflake> linkd: i'm trying to get my xserver back up, but it's telling that it's missing some modules
[09:52] <ErgoSum> OMG
[09:52] <edo> hi all
[09:52] <linkd> cornflake: what modules?
[09:52] <robotgeek> ErgoSum: you'll have to try gplflash
[09:52] <ErgoSum> mmmmmmm
[09:52] <ErgoSum> ok ill try then
[09:52] <bdoggy> I am using vino on a headless install but it insists on only showing at 640x480, is there anyway to force this to a higher resolution? if i plug my monitor in i can get 1280x1024, but vino wont play ball
[09:52] <cornflake> linkd: mouse, kbd, glcore, i810, v4l
[09:53] <linkd> cornflake: eek, has it ever worked?
[09:53] <cornflake> linkd: yes
[09:53] <WushuMofo> hey everyone
[09:54] <cornflake> linkd: it looks like they were somehow fucked up when i foolishly decided to upgrade to dapper-drake
[09:54] <varsendagger> i made some configurations in ALSA and it sais it cant open pcm device 'default'
[09:54] <navarone> wow...xfce is quite nice...very crisp and clean
[09:54] <linkd> cornflake: oh.. perhaps a downgrade might be a good idea?
[09:54] <cornflake> linkd: yeah, but how do i do that?
[09:54] <robotgeek> cornflake: you upgraded to dapper. you know it's bound to be broken
[09:54] <WushuMofo> nav: I do like xfce, but I switched back to gnome and just made it look the way I wanted
[09:54] <cornflake> robotgeek: thank you mr. obvious
[09:54] <robotgeek> cornflake: :)
[09:55] <edo> help me to install a webcam pls
[09:55] <Simira> what do I use in Breezy/Dapper to discover bluetooth units?
[09:55] <alistair_> Sam3773: check that your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf has a valid sceen section and that Device matches with
[09:55] <linkd> cornflake: well not 100% sure, but i think changing all the repositorys to breezy again. then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:55] <navarone> Wushufu> Yeah I am here wondering why my drives did not automount...lol
[09:55] <dragonbyte> Read error from: Error reading NAV packet.  What can cause this error from gxine?
[09:55] <bdoggy> I am using vino on a headless install but it insists on only showing at 640x480, is there anyway to force this to a higher resolution? if i plug my monitor in i can get 1280x1024, but vino wont play ball
[09:55] <Goatocausto> oh yeah that is something i wanted to ask actually, how do i install a webcam ?
[09:55] <cornflake> linkd: sounds dangerous... better back up the system
[09:55] <alistair_> the Identifier in Device section
[09:55] <WushuMofo> Nav: are you using breezy? or dapper?
[09:55] <linkd> cornflake: backups are always a good idea, but i think it should be alright. then again, im not 100% sure
[09:56] <moaltmann> can anyone help with a failed installation? how do i continue it?
[09:56] <alistair_> Sam7337?
[09:56] <logical_mark> Hey can anyone tell me if it is possible to mount and be able to write to an NTFS partition
[09:56] <Faust> I noticed that the ubuntu d-i doesn't allow extremely small partitions such as aprox 250-500mb like BSDs do.  Does the debian d-i version offer any more leeway?
[09:56] <phin3as> moaltmann, what's wrong with the installation. There has to be a reason why it failed.. if there isn't then we can't help you.
[09:56] <Sam3773> Apparently in the screens thing it's using the intel chip as the device.. Not my Nvidia
[09:56] <moaltmann> phin3as: I have just installed Ubuntu5.10 (i386), after the reboot the install screen installed/confgured further packages and then displayed "There was a problem installing the selected software...". after an erroneous keystroke I was thrown to the console I have the last msg from all consoles but then did a C-M-Del. The reboot went through the graphical startup and dumped me into the console (login). Any suggestions on how to finish the
[09:56] <moaltmann> installation?
[09:56] <cornflake> linkd: good thing i have a copy of knoppix just in case...
[09:56] <fbafelipe> when i try to open some videos, the system complains that the file is with the wrong extension, although MPlayer reconize it, and dont open the video. To watch it i need to go in "Open With", how do I set the system to allow open files even with the wrong extension?
[09:56] <mjr> logical_mark, short answer: no. Long answer: Maybe, but you'll have to put in some work; google for "captive ntfs"
[09:57] <gar-> how i can play a .mkv file please thanks in advance
[09:57] <logical_mark> mjr thanks
[09:57] <linkd> cornflake: \m/
[09:57] <cornflake> linkd: well... i'm gonna try it
[09:57] <ErgoSum> oh... can i find gplflash with synaptic?
[09:57] <phin3as> moaltmann, you might have hardware incompatablities.
[09:57] <Sam3773> I've had this before and forgot how to fix it, i think it involves changing the bus ID but i could never find my Nvidia bus
[09:57] <dr_willis> gar-,  got url to a mkv file? tried xine/mplayer/vlc yet?
[09:57] <pinkisntwell> i installed qtparted from rpm, where is it now? how can i use it?
[09:58] <WushuMofo> so I take it that it's not a wise idea to upgrade to dapper right yet?
[09:58] <blue-frog> logical_mark, u can but if you don't pay attention and don't force a windows filesystem check you will end up with a ruined windows.
[09:58] <gar-> dr_willis, try to install xine no luck try to install mplayer no luck and dont know about vlc
[09:58] <alistair_> so long as the two match the only other thing you have to worry about is driver in the Device section which should be set to nvidia
[09:58] <moaltmann> phin3as: unlikely, live cd works, knoppix worx
[09:58] <blue-frog> logical_mark, create a fat32 that both windows/linucx can read /write is your best choice
[09:58] <dr_willis> gar-,  define 'no luck' - you did install the various w32codecs also ?
[09:58] <theCore> how do i configure WEP for my atheros wifi card, in breezy ? I was able to do it in hoary, but since upgraded WEP doesn't work ... :(
[09:59] <gar-> dr_willis,  let me check i think i did
[09:59] <Sam3773> Woooooooohooooo!
[09:59] <gar-> dr_willis, that is on synaptic right?
[09:59] <alistair_> Sam7337... another trick try taking BusID out *commenting out*
[09:59] <Sam3773> She works :P Just changed the bus ID
[09:59] <phin3as> moaltmann, well try installing knoppix or gentoo off knoppix maybe that'll work.. If it does, then you have a messed up CD.
[09:59] <WushuMofo> wep keys are useless and too easy to crack... I suggest just go with mac address filtering instead.
[09:59] <logical_mark> blue-frog, thanks for the info
[09:59] <Sam3773> Cheers for the help alistair_
[10:00] <moaltmann> phin3as: how would i continue an install
[10:00] <alistair_> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" ?
[10:00] <jgw> wep is the rot13 of the wireless world
[10:00] <gar-> dr_willis,  yes the w32codecs is intalled no luck mean i canot install trowme alot of error
[10:00] <Sam3773> PCI:2:10:0
[10:00] <LinuxN00bie> Hey, NoUse you were right bout the RAM.........
[10:00] <fbafelipe> when i try to open some videos, the system complains that the file is with the wrong extension, although MPlayer reconize it, and dont open the video. To watch it i need to go in "Open With", how do I set the system to allow open files even with the wrong extension?
[10:00] <phin3as> moaltmann, as I said, you probably have a currupted CD if it isn't your hardware, did you download off slow net?
[10:00] <Sam3773> The error gave me that ID but the config was using a different one so i changed it
[10:00] <dr_willis> fbafelipe,  could just rename the file?
[10:01] <alistair_> ahgood good
[10:01] <progbliss> How would I get wine working on amd64 (which doesn't compile to 64-bit)?
[10:01] <dr_willis> i always use "open with" - the dang default video player is totem - i need to leran how to change it some day.
[10:01] <Sam3773> Cheers :D Cya when i get another problem hehe :D
[10:01] <moaltmann> phin3as: yep, i'll do an MD5 check -- however, it's a torrent so it should check itself :-/
[10:01] <dura> progbliss, Install a binary package?
[10:01] <pinkisntwell> can i get some help here?
[10:01] <alistair_> clutching at straws mainly
[10:01] <fbafelipe> dr_willis: it work, but its many files... it would take much time to rename them all...
[10:02] <phin3as> moaltmann, well if your net was slow it'll probably be that. Why didn't you just get a regular iso? instead of the torrent..
[10:02] <fbafelipe> dr_willis: by the way, the file iisn't realy with the worng extension, gnome that "think" it is.
[10:02] <gar-> dr_willis, any idea?
[10:02] <SCMark> how can I reformat a USB stick?
[10:02] <progbliss> dura: Tried that. winehq has a ubuntu-compatible repo for its .debs, but those won't show up in synaptic, making me wary
[10:02] <moaltmann> it is an iso. i simply shared it in a torrent and compared against others.
[10:03] <alistair_> Going to try Flight1... anyone wana wish me luck
[10:03] <moaltmann> phin3as: ^
[10:03] <dragonbyte> HappyFool: hey, vlc opens the dvd fine it seems
[10:03] <alistair_> or won't i need it
[10:03] <dr_willis> fbafelipe,  if its a totally new extension.. i think ya can add it some where.. but i cant rember where.
[10:03] <phin3as> moaltmann, ahh right.
[10:03] <pinkisntwell> can you stop ignoring me people?
[10:03] <moaltmann> phin3as: sorry, wan't explaining well
[10:03] <dr_willis> gar-,  you are saying that xine/mplayer wont install? or wont play that file?
[10:03] <phin3as> moaltmann, I wouldn't know then. :( You should ask a few others, or download straight from the site.
[10:03] <SCMark> I guess I should ask how do I repartition a usb stick
[10:03] <varsendagger> my sound works but my midi does not, any ideas?
[10:04] <phin3as> moaltmann, maybe the link you acquired ubuntu from wasn't really authenticated. There are a whole lot of problems. Just try again.
[10:04] <moaltmann> phin3as: in any case -- if the install would hang, i then choose to reboot, and want to continue the install -- how would i do this?
[10:04] <fbafelipe> dr_willis: i don't know why this happens (probably a bug?), it occurs with videos, in most cases with .wmv
[10:04] <moaltmann> phin3as: or would it do it automagically?
[10:05] <phin3as> moaltmann, you'd have to start from the beggining. You can't quit an install and hope for it to continue after a reboot.
[10:05] <dragonbyte> is libxine/xine broken in ubuntu?
[10:05] <durt> scmark: you can do it with gparted
[10:05] <dr_willis> fbafelipe,  the whole video scene is a huge mess.. too many extensions/codecs/anarchy. :) sadly.
[10:05] <holy_cow> *hmmm*
[10:05] <holy_cow> xfce is pretty cool
[10:06] <moaltmann> phin3as: i see, ubuntu doesnt keep a log of where it last was and continues from there in case of a freeze (esp, during hardwrae detectiion)
[10:06] <WushuMofo> I have a question about an mp3 player...  if one of you cool people with all the knowledge would be so nice as to PM me...
[10:06] <moaltmann> phin3as: i'll do a MD5 check and try again. thanks for your help
[10:06] <phin3as> moaltmann, anytime.
[10:06] <St^Anger^19m> how can i redirect sound to my headset? The sound mixer recognizes my headset but i cant get sound from it
[10:06] <theCore> is there a howto or a wiki on how to install the 686 linux kernel ?
[10:06] <SCMark> durt: cool.  I'll give that a shot
[10:06] <cafuego> theCore: select it in synaptic, install it, reboot, done
[10:07] <Xenguy> holy_cow: yeh, I'm finding it lean and elegant
[10:07] <theCore> cafuego: i tried , but a lost my wifi drivers
[10:07] <HappyFool> theCore: in principle you just install the linux-686 package, and everything should Just Work
[10:07] <holy_cow> Xenguy, i have an old laptop i want to keep on using, gnome is a bit of a hog
[10:07] <HappyFool> ah
[10:07] <Xenguy> holy_cow: that's my hardware too
[10:07] <blue-frog> theCore, synaptic.. you won't gain much though using 686 or 386
[10:07] <holy_cow> Xenguy, have you used enlightenment?
[10:08] <theCore> blue-frog: really ?
[10:08] <Xenguy> holy_cow: no, I never bothered with it
[10:08] <cafuego> theCore: You need then associated linux-restricted-modules-... too.
[10:08] <holy_cow> *nod* me neither i'm going to give it a try after xfce, just to see
[10:08] <theCore> cafuego: which ? that my problem
[10:08] <HappyFool> linux-686 should depend on the appropriate restricted-modules package
[10:08] <yh> holy_cow: have you tried blackbox/openbox/fluxbox ?
[10:08] <Xenguy> holy_cow: best way to find out :-)  I'm not sure if E is still being developed or not tho
[10:08] <holy_cow> yh, no, infact i will add those to my todo list
[10:09] <St^Anger^19m> !headset
[10:09] <ubotu> St^Anger^19m: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:09] <blue-frog> theCore, got fairly new sony laptop and celeron desktop. neverseen a difference between 386 and 686. so i just stick to 386 now (default install)
[10:09] <yh> if you're looking for speed you might wnat to give them a shot
[10:09] <holy_cow> i need something that can run in 128 megs ram on oldie laptop
[10:09] <holy_cow> Xenguy, e17 is supposed to be undergoing dev, yeah good question
[10:09] <cafuego> holy_cow: xfce will run
[10:09] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way to rotate desktop pictures?
[10:09] <Xenguy> holy_cow: maybe it is still active then
[10:10] <dragonbyte> xine, gxine, totem-xine, totem-gstreamer are all complaining about this NAV packet read error, can someone please help shed some light on what this means and what causes it?
[10:10] <bdoggy> holy_cow: or fluxbox
[10:10] <St^Anger^19m> how can i redirect sound to my headset? The sound mixer recognizes my headset but i cant get sound from it
[10:10] <Xenguy> thechitowncubs: most image viewers do that (gthumb? gqview?)
[10:10] <holy_cow> *nod*
[10:10] <bdoggy> St^whatever: is the volume turned up? :)
[10:10] <dr_willis> is it plugged in
[10:10] <thechitowncubs> Xenguy, i mean rotate wallpapers?
[10:10] <thechitowncubs> in gnome
[10:10] <holy_cow> i haveto say that xfce so far seems to give the user a modern experience, on fairly limited hardware
[10:11] <St^Anger^19m> volume is up and turned in
[10:12] <theCore> blue-frog: maybe on a newer machine, but on a older one, like my celeron 533, it would make a difference ...
[10:12] <blue-frog> theCore, i doubt it but u can try. just install 686 from synaptic
[10:13] <thechitowncubs> Anyway to rotate wallpapers in gnome that anyone knows about
[10:13] <thechitowncubs> ?
[10:13] <juliux> hi can someone help me with an epson r200
[10:13] <bdoggy> is there anyway to get my desktop at a higher res via vino? it seems to have downgraded me to 640x480 :(
[10:13] <cafuego> theCore: it will not make any difference you will notice.
[10:14] <thechitowncubs> juliux, whats wrong?
[10:14] <dragonbyte> can someone please help with this DVD thing?
[10:14] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, whats wrong?
[10:15] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: I cant get xine-ui, gxine, totem-xine, or totem-gstreamer to play a dvd
[10:15] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: they all bitch about NAV packet error junk
[10:15] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: but mplayer and vlc can play the DVDs
[10:15] <juliux> thechitowncubs, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200 i make it like it is described there but i cann't print to an cd
[10:15] <theCore> cafuego: okay, you convinced me
[10:15] <yh> hm whoa
[10:15] <thechitowncubs> what do you mean print to a cd?
[10:15] <yh> http://x2.zuavra.net/index.php/8/
[10:15] <juliux> thechitowncubs, i want print on a cd
[10:15] <yh> holy_cow: if you are interested in speed comparisons
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> juliux, i don't understand, does the printer have the capability to print directly on the cd?
[10:16] <juliux> thechitowncubs, yes it have
[10:16] <juliux> thechitowncubs, i will print cds for ubuntu germany
[10:17] <juliux> thechitowncubs, the problem is that i didn't can select in gimp print on a cd
[10:17] <gar-> dr_willis, i found i way i think the repositorios wast not universe so now i downloaded and install mplayer then try and let you know ok
[10:17] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: any ideas?
[10:18] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, searching...
[10:19] <seicosid> i am new to linux can anyone help or where is help available
[10:19] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, i assume you have libdvdcss2 installed
[10:19] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: yup
[10:19] <dr_willis> seicosid,  care to be a little more specific about what ya need info on.
[10:19] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: vlc and mplayer work
[10:19] <blue-frog> seicosid, to do what?
[10:19] <cliebow> tftp prob...netstat shows listening on :::69..daemon.log shows "address family not supported..is it trying to do ipv6?
[10:19] <seicosid> i would like to know how to log in as root
[10:19] <pinkisntwell> hey people, i have installed a package (qtparted) but now i cant run it
[10:19] <nick_> seicosid, su
[10:20] <pinkisntwell> how do i run qtparted
[10:20] <pinkisntwell> ?
[10:20] <nick_> did you do a basic or expert install, seicosid ?
[10:20] <blue-frog> seicosid, don't need to. use sudo
[10:20] <seicosid> basic install
[10:20] <gar-> dr_willis, it work thanks for the advices =)
[10:20] <nick_> !sudo
[10:20] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:20] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, thats odd because i've found that there are 2 things that cause it, not having libdvdcss2 installed or having a dirty/damaged disc
[10:21] <gfish> is there an m4a codec for xmms
[10:21] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: strace seems to show gxine etc loading the stupid dvdcss stuff too
[10:22] <tuxer> hello good afternoon, somebody can help me to setting up a mail server under ubuntu 5.10, please
[10:22] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, strange, if i find anything i'll let you know
[10:22] <thechitowncubs> i recommend reinstalling libdvdcss2
[10:23] <gfish> is there an mp4a codec for xmms
[10:23] <[Yoni] > Hello all
[10:23] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21869&highlight=nav+packet+error
[10:23] <[Yoni] > How can I login to the X as Superuser?
[10:23] <dr_willis> gfish,  been trying to get mpa4 working with vlc today also. :(
[10:23] <n0dl> sudo -i
[10:23] <n0dl> then startx
[10:23] <Fushi> YOu mean gnome?
[10:23] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, Try to open the totem.conf file in your /home/.gnome/ directory, there will be a line quoted, referring to libdvdcss2, unquote this line
[10:23] <[Yoni] > 'cause as regular user i can't move files in X, only via console, & I forgot the command :\
[10:24] <gfish> dr_willis, have u had any luck
[10:24] <tuxer> must activate gdm for root
[10:24] <dr_willis> gfish,  not really
[10:24] <gfish> dr_willis, damm
[10:24] <dr_willis> gfish,  but they do play in mplayer
[10:25] <tuxer> hey yoni but can use sudo mv /etc/files /other/dir
[10:25] <gfish> dr_willis it would have been better in xmms
[10:25] <dr_willis> [Yoni] ,  try the 'mc' file manager. :P loging into X as root is  not a good habbit to get into.
[10:25] <mal1> how do I disable the totem firefox player?
[10:25] <dr_willis> gfish,  i saw a few sites/google hits menting xmms and mp4a -
[10:25] <mal1> doesn't seem to work at all
[10:25] <robotgeek> [Yoni] : why do you want to do that?
[10:25] <tuxer> anybody can help me to configure my own email server, under ubuntu, please
[10:26] <bdoggy> is there anyway to get my desktop at a higher res via vino? it seems to have downgraded me to 640x480 :(
[10:26] <derek_> hey can someone give me a spot to get nice themes
[10:26] <blue-frog> mal1, rm /usr/lib/moz-fire/plugin/lib*
[10:26] <robotgeek> tuxer: i would recommend you to search for guides regarding postfix with debian
[10:26] <blue-frog> mal1, rm /usr/lib/moz-fire/plugin/libtotem*
[10:26] <derek_> for gnome that is
[10:26] <[Yoni] > I need to move some file into the /usr/src
[10:27] <LjL> derek_: gnome-look i suppose
[10:27] <[Yoni] > & as regular user I can't do it on the GUI & in the console I forgot the command :\
[10:27] <robotgeek> [Yoni] : try gksudo nautilus
[10:27] <tuxer> i do it but always had trobles with something
[10:27] <mal1> blue-frog: thanks
[10:27] <derek_> k thanks LjL
[10:27] <tuxer> then i need somebody tell me step by step
[10:28] <derek_> ive down loaded a few but they dont seem to be in the correct format
[10:28] <tuxer> what i've to do
[10:28] <ricky_ds> I installed beagle and even though I set it up to start the service on boot, it doesn't do. Does anyone know why?
[10:28] <derek_> LjL: whats the format they need to be in do you know?
[10:29] <LjL> derek_: if it's like with KDE themes, you just get them as they are, and compile them
[10:29] <derek_> they are in xml with jpgs
[10:30] <LjL> derek_: i think you should read any specific instructions that come with them. there is no standardized packaging system that i know of
[10:30] <timbalbekov> can I chmod a mountpoint so that normal applications can read it? and that i dont have to run them as root?
[10:31] <LjL> timbalbekov: usually not
[10:31] <LjL> timbalbekov: but read this, it's probably relevant to what you want to do
[10:31] <LjL> !tell timbalbekov about ntfs
[10:31] <timbalbekov> thank you
[10:31] <dooglus> does anyone know what script gets run when the laptop lid is closed, or how to stop it running?
[10:32] <LjL> timbalbekov: you *can* mount a FS so that not only root can access it, just not by means of chmod
[10:32] <LjL> dooglus: dunno. a guess is the stuff in /etc/acpi
[10:32] <LjL> dooglus: like /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[10:32] <giard> dapper question, is anyone else having problems where the Applications menus shows for a split second and then disappears?
[10:32] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: well, totem is saying I am trying to play an encrypted dvd without libdvdcss installed
[10:33] <dragonbyte> thechitowncubs: but i uncommented those lines  and its still doing it
[10:33] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell dragonbyte about restrictedformats
[10:33] <thechitowncubs> dragonbyte, alright, sry thats all i got
[10:33] <n0dl> does anyone know how to use cups?
[10:33] <DShepherd> hey
[10:33] <odie5533> Is there a way to ask ubuntu to reconfigure my monitor?
[10:33] <tuxer> nobody knows how to configure my own email server
[10:34] <Tromer> oi galera alguem do brasil?
[10:34] <Tromer> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:34] <tuxer> this stuff is too dificult
[10:34] <gfish> dr_willis, i got it
[10:34] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[10:34] <JonnyRo> IRC_: odie5533 what's wrong with your monitor
[10:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[10:34] <NoUse> n0dl the gnome printer config app is a frontend for cups
[10:34] <NoUse> Tromer stay away from ubuntuguide
[10:34] <timbalbekov> what do fmask and dmask do?
[10:34] <odie5533> JohnnyRo: Its giving me the wrong monitor for one, and also I can't set it to the refresh rate I want
[10:35] <tuxer> don't find nothing what don't tried
[10:35] <timbalbekov> man doesn't cover it
[10:35] <rabies> timbalbekov: google it
[10:35] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: not much help, already installed libdvdcss etc
[10:35] <timbalbekov> ok
[10:35] <JonnyRo> odie5533: are you using a laptop? Or a dual monitor video card
[10:35] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: all the xine engine based players dont seem to be working right
[10:35] <robotgeek> dragonbyte: libdvdread3 too?
[10:35] <odie5533> JonnyRo: neither, just bought a new monitor is all
[10:35] <timbalbekov> it uses the same format as chmod, correct?
[10:35] <dragonbyte> robotgeek libdvdread3, libdvdnav4, even libdvdplay cuz I wasnt sure
[10:36] <JonnyRo> odie5533: what video card do you have?
[10:36] <odie5533> nVidia FX 5900
[10:36] <JonnyRo> odie5533: interesting, usually the nvidia cards work off the bat
[10:36] <robotgeek> dragonbyte: weird
[10:36] <odie5533> It works fine. I just can change the refresh rate
[10:36] <odie5533> *cant
[10:37] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: this has gone a little beyond weird at this point
[10:37] <stratovarius> guys I configured samba on my ubuntu but my pc with windows doesnt recognize my shared folders.who can help me?
[10:37] <tuxer> ok, i undertand nobody know
[10:37] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: this has been 4 hours of trying to make it play a DVD
[10:37] <JonnyRo> odie5533: is it CRT or LCD?
[10:37] <odie5533> JonnyRo: LCD
[10:37] <robotgeek> dragonbyte: did you try ogle?
[10:37] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: vlc and mplayer work
[10:37] <JonnyRo> odie5533: let me guess ,it's stuck at 60mhz and is on DVI
[10:37] <JonnyRo> right?
[10:37] <robotgeek> dragonbyte: then?
[10:37] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: then why cant i get gxine working?
[10:37] <JonnyRo> or 60hz
[10:37] <odie5533> its VGA but it is at 60mHz
[10:37] <odie5533> i dno which
[10:37] <odie5533> 60
[10:38] <robotgeek> dragonbyte: there some dvdmenus package which you might need to install
[10:38] <JonnyRo> odie5533: most flat panel displays are designed to run at 60
[10:38] <JonnyRo> odie5533: are you experiencing screen artifacts that would make you want to switch?
[10:38] <odie5533> JonnyRo: yes
[10:38] <JonnyRo> odie5533: tearing in video games?
[10:38] <dragonbyte> robotgeek: i have libdvdnav installed
[10:38] <odie5533> Don't play them. But moving the mouse and windows I see tearing
[10:38] <durt> a 60mhz display would be amazing ;)
[10:39] <JonnyRo> odie5533: i would look into forcing a synchronous buffer swap
[10:39] <robotgeek> dragonbyte: i just dunno what the issue is, srry
[10:39] <gar-> okey this a hard question anybody here have done to load on boot the rt2750.ko driver for the wireless also bring on the device rausb0 anyone thanks
[10:39] <JonnyRo> odie5533: that's probably more what is going to make the difference
[10:39] <JonnyRo> odie5533: also are you using the stock nvidia drivers with xorg, or the special nvidia package?
[10:39] <robotgeek> gar-: the driver works fine?
[10:39] <gar-> robotgeek, yeap =)
[10:40] <odie5533> JonnyRo: I am using the downloaded nvidia package
[10:40] <gar-> robotgeek, for my wireless usb DWL-G122
[10:40] <robotgeek> gar-: great, the tough part is over then :)
[10:40] <gar-> robotgeek, yes it took me long time to doit but never give up
[10:40] <holy_cow> who was the person that said they used xfce?
[10:40] <robotgeek> gar-: so, all you want to do is to load the module at boot
[10:40] <gar-> robotgeek, yeap
[10:41] <holy_cow> i was just wondering if it was posible to setup xfce like the gnome panels layout and lock it down
[10:41] <durt> i use it holy_cow
[10:41] <holy_cow> hey durt :)
[10:41] <holy_cow> is it possible?
[10:41] <durt> what do you mean "lock it down"?
[10:41] <gar-> robotgeek, for example instead of doing this manual insmod rt2570.ko them ifconfig rausb0 up and them dhclient i want all that auto on boot
[10:41] <carlos> night!
[10:42] <robotgeek> gar-: sure, one thing at a time.
[10:42] <JonnyRo> odie5533: shrug, i'd look into the readme files in /usr/share/doc/ under the package name of the nvidia files
[10:42] <holy_cow> disable the users ability from adding applets, moving menu/panel stuff around and modifying panel preferences basically.  i can lock down all the other stuff
[10:42] <logical_mark> Hey guys I want to write programs for Linux as quickly as I can using Visual Basic or Visual C#. How can I do this?
[10:42] <JonnyRo> maybe there is info that will help you, but i dont expect changing the refresh rate will do much for you
[10:42] <gar-> robotgeek,  also i upgrade to breezy with not problem =)
[10:42] <robotgeek> gar-: cd /etc/modprobe.d/
[10:42] <JonnyRo> odie5533: lcd's are tricky, and many of them are not capable of refreshing fast enough to drop those artifacts
[10:43] <gar-> robotgeek,  im in there now
[10:43] <graiz> hello
[10:43] <varsendagger> hello
[10:43] <dragonbyte> does anyone here have xine playing DVDs?
[10:43] <robotgeek> gar-: sudo gedit rt2750
[10:44] <NoUse> logical_mark Visual Basic doens't count a programming language :-)
[10:44] <JRlinux> Where is monitor refresh data stored on ubuntu?  I don't find XF86Config-4 file...
[10:44] <varsendagger> say i wanted to create a symlink from an old file to a new file how does that work?
[10:44] <gar-> robotgeek,  that for make a new file right because the rt2750 is no there right?
[10:44] <durt> hrm... i dont know holy_cow
[10:44] <graiz> What do people love about Ubuntu? What makes it different from other distributions?
[10:44] <robotgeek> JRlinux: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:44] <robotgeek> gar-: yup
[10:44] <gar-> robotgeek,  done
[10:44] <timbalbekov> graiz: pretty buttons and GUI
[10:44] <holy_cow> durt, no worries, how about setting up panels like in gnome?  i don't like the xfce way ... ?
[10:44] <JonnyRo> JRlinux: the reason you dont find it usually is because the driver uses DDC to automaticaly query the refresh rate from the monitor
[10:44] <logical_mark> NoUse: I know it is not a REAL high level or OOP lang
[10:45] <robotgeek> gar-: put 'alias rausb0 rt2750'
[10:45] <holy_cow> i don't see very many preferences in xfce for panels ... :/
[10:45] <logical_mark> NoUSE: But that is irrelevant to the question
[10:45] <timbalbekov> logical_mark: ditch the BASIC man, get C++. you'll thank us later
[10:45] <NoUse> logical_mark there are projects to try to port visual basic to Linux but its still iffy as far as I know
[10:45] <robotgeek> gar-: if rausb0 is the device
[10:45] <logical_mark> g2g guys thanks
[10:45] <gar-> robotgeek, with the quote '   ' ?
[10:45] <durt> holy_cow, you can run gnome-panel instead if you like
[10:45] <thegrim> can somebody help me with instaling software on ubuntu
[10:45] <robotgeek> gar-: without the quotes
[10:45] <NoUse> !tell thegrim about synaptic
[10:45] <holy_cow> durt, really? oh neat
[10:45] <varsendagger> graiz, the debian backend with a huge knowledable community coupled with a new distro every 6 months
[10:46] <gar-> robotgeek, ok done
[10:46] <NoUse> thegrim the link on synaptic should help
[10:46] <robotgeek> thegrim: System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[10:46] <JRlinux> robotgeek, OK.  JonnyRo , I have no complaints about Ubuntu refresh rates; but my other distro, Mepis, has too low a refresh rate (I get flicker) and I just wondered what Ubuntu was doing to get the rock-steady picture.
[10:46] <thegrim> i try that but nothing happens
[10:46] <varsendagger> graiz, what have you used?
[10:46] <gar-> robotgeek, save?
[10:46] <robotgeek> JRlinux: no clue, i use ppc
[10:46] <NoUse> thegrim synapitc doesn't run?
[10:46] <thegrim> im new on this
[10:46] <robotgeek> gar-: yup
[10:46] <dritt> Hi, could anybody help me out... I have problems with Webmin??
[10:46] <graiz> I've been exploring suse, pclinux, and some others
[10:47] <dr_willis> dritt,  what problem?
[10:47] <blue-frog> dritt, what kind?
[10:47] <durt> holy_cow, or you can apt-get xfce4-goodies and play with all those plugins
[10:47] <gar-> robotgeek, now what
[10:47] <robotgeek> gar-: moment, i'm looking to see if anything else is necessary
[10:48] <dritt> It gets an error because it doesnt find this file: webmin.acl
[10:48] <gar-> robotgeek, ok
[10:48] <JRlinux> "DDC" something that mepis does not use, apparently.
[10:48] <thegrim> where i got  to install the programs i download
[10:48] <blue-frog> dritt, how did u installed webmin?
[10:48] <dr_willis> dritt,  chedk the forum/wikis yet? that file on my system is just a list of users
[10:49] <rabies> JRlinux: that would be an X thing, not a distro thing
[10:49] <NoUse> thegrim you install all apps through synaptic
[10:49] <rabies> JRlinux: DDC is used by X to detect monitor capibilities
[10:49] <robotgeek> gar-: then add 'rausb0' to the the file /etc/modules
[10:49] <dragonbyte> how do i make sure totem/xine can see/use libdvdcss?
[10:49] <thegrim> but i cant find the adobe reader package there
[10:49] <varsendagger> graiz, have you ever heard of apt-get?
[10:50] <robotgeek> gar-: that will automatically load the module at boot (if the module is present in /lib/modules/)
[10:50] <graiz> why do you ask?
[10:50] <timbalbekov> how do i see what start-up scripts my session uses?
[10:50] <gar-> robotgeek, explain dont udestand add rausb0 module where the rausb0 module locate?
[10:50] <varsendagger> i personally think it is why debian systems ar superior to most others
[10:50] <dritt> I install it from synaptic... I actually install webmin first and then webmin-core... and webmin-core appears to be the problem, but it affects webmin itself... I cant log on webmin!!
[10:50] <NoUse> !tell thegrim about repos
[10:50] <JRlinux> rabies, OK, I surely like the job it does.
[10:50] <rabies> JRlinux: so do i...
[10:50] <NoUse> thegrim you need to add the multiverse repository, follow the instruction ubotu sent you
[10:51] <devnul> hmmm....i'm out of things to do....
[10:51] <holy_cow> durt, thanks for the tips
[10:51] <thegrim> wheres that reposutori
[10:51] <cowbud> wtf are the devfs equivs for say /dev/hda7? google isn't helping much.. like /dev/lun/blahblah/disk I forget..
[10:51] <NoUse> thegrim follow the instructions that ubotu sent you
[10:51] <varsendagger> graiz, what do you normally run ? XP
[10:51] <robotgeek> gar-: verify if the module is present in cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[10:51] <JRlinux> Another question-- I have newly installed ubuntu 5.10.  Can I apt-get KDE and have choice of the two systems?  I suspect not-- it is either Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[10:51] <robotgeek> JRlinux: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <gar-> robotgeek, ok
[10:52] <blue-frog> dritt, u mean u can't log on from the webpage? is that all?
[10:52] <graiz> varsendagger: xp 2k xpserver I've daveled with other stuff as well
[10:52] <dritt> yes that is right
[10:52] <robotgeek> gar-: 'cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r) && find ./ -name rt2750.ko'
[10:52] <JRlinux> robotgeek, that would make either available on the same partition, you mean?
[10:52] <blue-frog> dritt, u need to setup the passwd for your user
[10:52] <rabies> JRlinux: kde and gnome take up about 1.5gigs(ish) each
[10:52] <varsendagger> graiz, that's cool, the apt-get system IS the way of the Future
[10:52] <robotgeek> JRlinux: yup
[10:53] <blue-frog> dritt, locate changepass.pl then
[10:53] <JRlinux> Sounds good, thanks
[10:53] <Knowerrors> anyone know of a good irc channel for auto (car) repair?
[10:53] <varsendagger> Knowerrors, when you find one tell me
[10:53] <blue-frog> dritt, ../../changepass.pl /etc/webmin root your-password   then
[10:53] <blue-frog> dritt
[10:53] <varsendagger> also some good layers
[10:53] <varsendagger> lawyers
[10:53] <blue-frog> dritt, restart webmin and log in
[10:54] <moo> anyone have a good link to developing glade apps
[10:54] <Insane> Hello
[10:54] <graiz> varsendagger - took a look at the web page, Doesn't make any sense to me.  Who would use this, how and why?
[10:54] <robotgeek> gar-: if rt2750.ko was the kernel module you built
[10:54] <varsendagger> graiz at the apt-get web page?
[10:54] <dritt> but when I tried to enter to: https://localhost:10000/ it says that the conection was reyectec trying to connect localhost:10000
[10:54] <Insane> I have a question regarding an application which i would like to install...
[10:54] <varsendagger> it-s a little confusing at first
[10:55] <cafuego> Take it as an omen, don't use webmin.
[10:55] <varsendagger> can i ask you how you would get a tetris game running on your computer  --- given that it isn't installed?
[10:55] <gar-> robotgeek, i dont do notting
[10:55] <Insane> I want to ask, there is a sheet music application called rosegarden, and I would like to install it on ubuntu, but how...
[10:55] <graiz> versendagger: www1.apt-get.org - seems to alloe me to search for packages... But how would someone search for a package if they don't know what exists? There's no place to browse, and there is no rating system to tell what is a good package vs. a not-so-good package.
[10:55] <blue-frog> dritt, is webmin running?
[10:55] <robotgeek> gar-: brb
[10:56] <gar-> when i type cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[10:56] <protok0l> hello
[10:56] <rabies> gah, webmin is the devil!
[10:56] <rabies> o_O
[10:56] <blue-frog> dritt, if yes try to connect to https://computer-name:10000
[10:56] <Insane> I want to ask, there is a sheet music application called rosegarden, and I would like to install it on ubuntu, but how...
[10:56] <protok0l> can someone help me find out why my sound broke after an upgrade
[10:56] <Goatocausto> hey all this is a weird question
[10:56] <Goatocausto> but
[10:56] <varsendagger> all you ahve to do is get some good sources and type apt-cache search <package name>
[10:56] <rabies> Insane: use synaptic
[10:56] <Goatocausto> i was trying to install some stuff
[10:56] <varsendagger> Insane
[10:56] <Goatocausto> and it has some "cd" thing saying
[10:56] <Khufu> does ubuntu have an equivalent for gpm ? i can't get my mouse to work
[10:56] <Goatocausto> add etc
[10:57] <varsendagger> Insane, i have it running right now it is killer
[10:57] <gnomefreak> graiz,  try looking at packages.ubuntu.com they are seperated into groups
[10:57] <Insane> Ok..
[10:57] <Insane> I'll look in synaptic
[10:57] <varsendagger> Insane, i ahve a link for you
[10:57] <dritt> ok, I could enter to that site: is something about to find the IP address
[10:57] <varsendagger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:57] <idiot> How can I make a partition fat32(vfat) in console?
[10:57] <idiot> with mk command
[10:57] <varsendagger> Insane,
[10:58] <Insane> yes
[10:58] <crafteh> I don't have the Ubuntu cd right now, but whenever I try to apt-get this package it tells me to insert the cd ... how do I force apt to download it?
[10:58] <varsendagger> you'll need to follow that wiki to get MIDI working
[10:58] <manuel_> hi
[10:58] <gar-> robotgeek, let me know when u back
[10:58] !lilo:*! Hi all. The KDE folks have set up a new channel, #konqueror, for sharing views and information about konqueror, spreading the news about their browser, and helping people to use the browser
[10:58] <gar-> robotgeek, i gonna try a reboot to see if it load it
[10:59] !lilo:*! So if you use konqueror or would like information or help, or want to assist, they ask that you please stop by
[10:59] <dritt> The problem is that I didnt knew my password so I think it get stuck so I tried to uninstall webmin and it tried to uninstall webmin-core and there gets and error because it cant find the webmin.acl file
[10:59] <graiz> verendagger - interesting but still not geared toward consumer use. It has a long way to go to be on par iwth tucows.com or download.com type of site.
[10:59] <blue-frog> dritt, are u at the login page?
[11:00] <crafteh> I don't have the Ubuntu cd right now, but whenever I try to apt-get this package it tells me to insert the cd ... how do I force apt to download it?
[11:00] <varsendagger> crafteh, go to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then ## coment the lines that have CD in them  - it should be abvious when you get it open
[11:00] <graiz> thanks for the pointers.
[11:00] <Goatocausto> someone/anyone help me with how to use the repositories to add applications so i can install them ?!?
[11:00] <devint> does anybody think reiser4 kernel support will be included in the dapper?
[11:00] <rabies> Goatocausto: install synaptic and use its repository config tool
[11:00] <dragonbyte> does anyone know what open("/usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 28
[11:00] <dragonbyte>  in strace means?
[11:01] <Mitja> Does btdownloadcurses sometimes set a device as read only?
[11:01] <crafteh> varsendagger, ah... thanks... didn't realize it would be in there
[11:01] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, what are you trying to run -- what is FF
[11:01] <linkd> Goatocausto: you just need to add a repoistory in /etc/apt/sources.list it should already have a bundle of repos there
[11:01] <robotgeek> varsendagger: prob firefox
[11:01] <varsendagger> crafteh, you bet
[11:01] <varsendagger> ahh
[11:01] <Goatocausto> um
[11:01] <Goatocausto> it has like
[11:01] <gnomefreak> FF=fire fox varsendagger  and im trying to play the sound thats on my website i have tried for like 6 months to get something to play it :(
[11:02] <Goatocausto> software sources - a bunch of cds listed
[11:02] <gfish> can ubuntu run wine
[11:02] <Goatocausto> do i just click "add" for them ?
[11:02] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, this might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:03] <Insane> I have q uestion....I am reading through this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo and I am wondering...why is it so much trouble just to get a midi to play on the PC...
[11:03] <Insane> I havnt tried playing one yet..
[11:03] <erUSUL> gfish, yes
[11:03] <Insane> maybe i wont need to go through all that...
[11:03] <LjL> i don't know, but Timidity is definitely good for playing MIDI
[11:03] <gfish> erUSUL would i be able to run msn and use webcam
[11:03] <LjL> will take more CPU time than your standard soundcard's MIDI interface, but the good side is that you can make it sound much better
[11:04] <varsendagger> Insane, it is just waht needs to be done
[11:04] <Goatocausto> mm
[11:04] <Goatocausto> general midi can sound pretty awesome
[11:04] <Goatocausto> ive done some orrite stuff with it
[11:04] <dritt> I tried to connect to Https://ricardo:10000 and it says the same think.... I was able to connect to Https://ricardo:10000 before but I never log in because I didnt new the password so I just guess 3 times an it get stuck... so I uninstall the application an install it again and I was able to enter to Https://ricardo:10000 again and tried another 3 times and it get stuck again so I tried to uninstall it again and it got an error try
[11:04] <dritt> ing to uninstall webmin-core because it cant find the webmin.acl file.
[11:04] <r34per> Hello
[11:04] <erUSUL> gfish, i do not know never have used wine myself
[11:04] <dragonbyte> does anyone have totem-xine/gxine/xine-ui working in an updated breezy?
[11:04] <r34per> I need some help
[11:04] <r34per> Is there someone here that can help me?
[11:04] <blue-frog> dritt, locate changepass.pl then
[11:04] <varsendagger> is Download.com a better deal than apt-get?
[11:04] <blue-frog> dritt, ../../changepass.pl /etc/webmin root your-password   then
[11:04] <dragonbyte> please help me, I have been trying to get this to play a dvd for over 4 hours now :(
[11:04] <blue-frog> dritt, restart webmin and log in
[11:04] <gfish> erUSUL, ok thanks for the help
[11:05] <Mitja> r34per: best to ask your question :)
[11:05] <r34per> Blue frogt
[11:05] <varsendagger> or tocows.com
[11:05] <rabies> Goatocausto: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[11:05] <r34per> ok
[11:05] <dooglus> LjL: /etc/acpi/lid.sh I expect.  :)  Thanks :)
[11:05] <rabies> varsendagger: no
[11:05] <rabies> varsendagger: and no
[11:05] <nickrud> varsendagger, you want davecentral
[11:05] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, i use xine-ui and totem-gstreamer
[11:05] <dritt> I dont have that file "changepass.pl" in /etc/webmin
[11:05] <varsendagger> what is davecentral?
[11:05] <plazm> hi, which bootloader is used on the livecd of ubuntu ?
[11:05] <rabies> varsendagger: use apt-get
[11:05] <blue-frog> dritt, locate changepass.pl
[11:05] <erUSUL> xine plays dvd's just fine (not much tested)
[11:06] <nickrud> it was the place to go, years ago. It points you to freshmeat now
[11:06] <rabies> plazm: syslinux im sure...
[11:06] <gar-> robotgeek,  u there it did not even load the module =/
[11:06] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: what version of libxine do you have?
[11:06] <r34per> Well, I just installed ubuntu on my other partition. but, I cant get my interenet to work. Im on windows right now. I have one of the wireless usb cards. I have the drivers, but they arent for linux. Any ideas?
[11:06] <robotgeek> gar-: here,
[11:06] <varsendagger> rabies, that's waht i thought that guy said that tocows and downlaod.com was better
[11:06] <blue-frog> dritt, to locate u need to updatedb
[11:06] <varsendagger> i think he was smoking crack
[11:06] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell r34per about ndiswrapper
[11:06] <rabies> varsendagger: whoever he is im sure hes a crack user
[11:06] <gar-> robotgeek, can we do a privite chat?
[11:06] <robotgeek> gar-: where's the file rt2570.ko
[11:06] <blue-frog> dritt, to updatedb u need to sudo...
[11:06] <rabies> r34per: first try and find a linux driver
[11:06] <robotgeek> gar-: kk
[11:06] <varsendagger> apt-get is the best deal in the world
[11:06] <rabies> varsendagger: um...no, but it works well
[11:07] <varsendagger> what's the best deal in the world then?
[11:07] <varsendagger> aside from T&A
[11:07] <rabies> varsendagger: beats me
[11:07] <dritt> ok, I find it in /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl Ill try to log
[11:07] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, 1c2
[11:07] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: did you get all the packages from the regular ubuntu sources?
[11:08] <robotgeek> gar-: if you are not registered, you will not be able to /msg me
[11:08] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: and where did you get your libdvdcss2?
[11:08] <r34per> Ok guys, I will try and find a linux driver
[11:08] <gfish> how do i end a program
[11:08] <gfish> cos xmms has crashed
[11:08] <blue-frog> dritt, /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root your-password
[11:08] <rabies> gfish: sudo kill
[11:08] <erUSUL> !dvd
[11:08] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:08] <rabies> !mplayer
[11:08] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:08] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, yes
[11:09] <varsendagger> rabies, is there a better way to get programs than apt-get?
[11:09] <Knowerrors> varsendagger: irc.efnet.net #cars
[11:09] <BloodHawk> does captive-ntfs work in amd64?
[11:09] <varsendagger> cool
[11:09] <rabies> varsendagger: for ubuntu not that i know of
[11:10] <dritt> it says: Failed to open /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf : No existe el fichero o el directorio
[11:10] <dritt>  Maybe /etc/webmin is not the Webmin config directory.
[11:10] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: do you have seveas in your sources.list?
[11:10] <varsendagger> Knowerrors, did you find a place for lawyers
[11:10] <gfish> i said sudo kill it just listed other things
[11:10] <r34per> Hey guys
[11:10] <r34per> no luck finding the drivers
[11:11] <blue-frog> r34per, boot linux, install ndiswrapper with synaptic (on your cd), copy your-card-windows-driver.inf and .sys somwhere, sudo ndiswrapper -i your-card-windows-driver.inf, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, sudo ndiswrapper -m.  go to system administration networking and see if your card is there.
[11:11] <thegrim> can i use the reposutori to intall tarball packages
[11:11] <eatnumber1> is there any way to set a program to start when the computer boots?
[11:11] <r34per> :O
[11:11] <r34per> wow
[11:11] <gnomefreak> varsendagger,  i did what it said and i ran  cat /dev/sndstat and all info was good still dont play the sites midi tho. :(
[11:11] <r34per> thats a lot
[11:11] <r34per> lol
[11:11] <gfish> how do i kill a crashed program
[11:12] <Knowerrors> varsendagger: nope, try phone book
[11:12] <blue-frog> r34per, it's ndiswrapper-utils by the way...
[11:12] <thegrim> Felipe hablas espanol
[11:12] <gfish> how do i close xmms its crashed
[11:12] <r34per> ah, so its on my installation disc of ubuntu?
[11:12] <blue-frog> yes
[11:12] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, sorry dude what is the site?
[11:12] <Stormx2> Hello world!
[11:12] <eatnumber1> is there any way to set a program to start when the computer boots?
[11:13] <r34per> Ok guys, im going to give it a try
[11:13] <r34per> bbl
[11:13] <gnomefreak> www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc  sound should be on home page should be stairway to heaven
[11:13] <lightbright> r34per: pls come back soon
[11:13] <r34per> light, I sure will
[11:13] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, no i've used a script /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:13] <r34per> probally will need more help
[11:13] <r34per> btw
[11:14] <r34per> ubuntu is a great program
[11:14] <r34per> love the gui
[11:14] <r34per> os*
[11:14] <r34per> lol
[11:14] <r34per> it looks sweet
[11:14] <r34per> brb
[11:14] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: damnit....totem just keeps telling me the DVD is encrypted and cant be read
[11:14] <eatnumber1> is there any way to set a program to start when the computer boots?
[11:15] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, i use xine for dvds
[11:15] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: I cant get xine, totem-xine, gxine to work
[11:15] <lightbright> r34per: :)
[11:15] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: they all throw error
[11:15] <blue-frog> eatnumber1, /etc/rc*.d
[11:15] <lightbright> eatnumber1: yes
[11:15] <gnomefreak> xine unencrypts?
[11:15] <eatnumber1> blue-frog: thx.... is there a gui-based way?
[11:15] <lightbright> eatnumber1: system/administration/services
[11:15] <dragonbyte> libdvdcss unencrypts
[11:15] <dragonbyte> i have libdvdcss installed
[11:15] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, i have to say that i do not use it so much. i've tried only with two or 3 movies
[11:16] <blue-frog> eatnumber1, what kind of program?
[11:16] <dragonbyte> but xine engine based dvd players dont work
[11:16] <trappist> dragonbyte: how did you install it?
[11:16] <eatnumber1> blue-frog: gaim
[11:16] <dragonbyte> trappist: which part?
[11:16] <thegrim> alguien habla espanol
[11:16] <trappist> libdvdcss
[11:16] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, have you used this? /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:16] <eatnumber1> lightbright: theres no way to add to the list of services there
[11:16] <dragonbyte> trappist: this is a fresh ubuntu install
[11:16] <trappist> !tell dragonbyte about libdvdcss
[11:16] <lightbright> eatnumber1: yeah I just noticed, sorry
[11:16] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: yup tried that one, and half a dozen other versions
[11:16] <blue-frog> eatnumber1, when u log out check save current setup (make sure gaim is running...
[11:16] <dragonbyte> trappist: I have installed half a dozen different versions
[11:17] <erUSUL> thegrim, yo, pero esto es un canal en ingls prueba en #ubuntu-es
[11:17] <dragonbyte> trappist: its not libdvdcss missing, its totem/xine not working with libdvdcss right
[11:17] <eatnumber1> blue-frog: ok, thx
[11:17] <trappist> dragonbyte: I know, there's a right and a wrong way to install it.  for some reason apt-get installing it doesn't work.  you have to run the script.
[11:17] <lightbright> eatnumber1: how do you add a program to start at bootime?
[11:18] <dragonbyte> trappist: before or after totem-xine?
[11:18] <lightbright> dragonbyte: whats up?
[11:18] <dragonbyte> lightbright: homicidal rage with ubuntu :)  I did a fresh install today and now I cant get xine based players to work
[11:18] <dragonbyte> lightbright: i have libdvdcss installed, tried via script, and a half dozen apt sources
[11:19] <lightbright> dragonbyte: whats not working?
[11:19] <trappist> dragonbyte: doesn't matter
[11:19] <dragonbyte> lightbright: nothing makes it work, totem-xine bitches about cant read encrpyted dvd, xine-ui/gxine error out on bad NAV packet
[11:19] <blue-frog> lightbright, either check save current setp at log out or system > pref > session > 3rd tab
[11:19] <jack-> or just use vlc
[11:20] <lightbright> dragonbyte: I can get your xine to work
[11:20] <lightbright> dragonbyte: are you willing to follow everry step I tell you wihout question? ")
[11:20] <gnomefreak> lol@insurance
[11:21] <lightbright> dragonbyte: I will help you to get it working
[11:21] <libben> can i reinstall grub after i put in a windows cd and do recovery mode and fix the partitions mbr?
[11:21] <Felipe__> I need to share internet conn through this pc, could someone give me a hand. This pc in connected directly to the cablemodem, the other eth of this pc is connected to a hub, and the other computer is conected to the hub.
[11:21] <linkd> libben: use a lib cd! and yes u can reinstall grub.. with a livecd
[11:21] <erUSUL> libben, yes you can
[11:21] <linkd> *live cd
[11:21] <lightbright> blue-frog: system > pref > session > add program will add programs to startup?
[11:21] <blue-frog> Felipe__, install firestarter
[11:21] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:22] <dragonbyte> lightbright: YES!
[11:22] <lightbright> Felipe__: sudo aptitude install firestarter
[11:22] <blue-frog> lightbright, as described...
[11:22] <N6REJ> does anyone know what a packages I need for spamassassin to run onthe server?
[11:22] <lightbright> dragonbyte: ok FIRST step, change your nick :)
[11:22] <libben> cause when i try to boot my windows xp partition hd0,0 it tells me NTDLR is missing
[11:22] <lightbright> dragonbyte: read for the second step? :)
[11:22] <lightdark> lightbright: sure
[11:22] <libben> is windows recovery cd the only way?
[11:22] <lightdark> lightbright: and what is wrong with my nick? :P
[11:23] <lightbright> lightdark: anything without the dragon or darkness pls :)
[11:23] <_null> Did anyone suceed with installing the xglserver on ubuntu?
[11:23] <libben> cant i fix the mbr on other ways?
[11:23] <Felipe__> what does the firewall gui has todo in internet sharing?
[11:23] <nasimuto> I installed fluxbox and icewm, but only fluxbox is showing up in the session list in my gdm Ubuntu login screen. Why isn't icewm showing ?
[11:23] <blue-frog> lightbright, not when u boot though... when you log in...
[11:23] <lightdark> lightbright: dont like dragons?
[11:23] <lightbright> blue-frog:  ah ok thanks!  great to know
[11:23] <robotgeek> lightdark: thanks for the tab completion hell
[11:23] <varsendagger> nasimuto, you may need to edit the gdm config
[11:23] <blue-frog> Felipe__, install firestarter run it and then u'll tell us...
[11:23] <dbyte> there :)
[11:23] <robotgeek> dbyte: that's much better, ty :)
[11:23] <lightbright> lightdark: i dont like supporting anyone who supports the "dark" side
[11:23] <nasimuto> varsendagger: thanks
[11:23] <erUSUL> Felipe__, it is a gui for iptables who con set forwarding and nat in the machine to do inet sharing
[11:23] <thegrim> erUSUL me podrias ayudar??
[11:24] <dbyte> lightbright: "dark" side?
[11:24] <erUSUL> Felipe__, which not who*
[11:24] <linkd> libben: no there is a better way. use a live cd like knoppix or ubuntu live and mount ur partitions, chroot them, then grub-install again to fix ur mbr and install the bootloader
[11:24] <r34per> hey guys, just to ask. my friend now uses ubuntu as his main os. He is a gamer. he says that in windows, he got 56 fps. now he gets a constant 200 fps. is this true?
[11:24] <erUSUL> thegrim, entra en #ubuntu-es
[11:24] <varsendagger> nasimuto, just a sec
[11:24] <r34per> is linux really better for gaming?
[11:24] <lightbright> r34per: not true
[11:24] <thegrim> ya entre pro nadie me ayuda
[11:24] <nasimuto> varsendagger: ok
[11:24] <dbyte> lightbright: dragons are the guardians of the earths energy in celtic mythos :P anyhoo, on to xine :)
[11:24] <Goatocausto> how do i install/run/whatever a theme i downloaded ?? i have no idea what to do :(
[11:24] <lightbright> r34per: you cant get 200fps
[11:24] <LjL> r34per: to start with, it only runs a fraction of the games that windows runs
[11:24] <libben> i have an old livecd, like 5 months old, that will still do?
[11:24] <lightbright> dbyte: thats your opinion, not fact
[11:24] <dbyte> robotgeek: dont like the dragon either?
[11:25] <r34per> well, I know that
[11:25] <r34per> but
[11:25] <r34per> he plays only 1 game
[11:25] <linkd> libben: yep it should be fine
[11:25] <Goatocausto> haha
[11:25] <r34per> wolfenstein enemy territory
[11:25] <Goatocausto> some gamer then :P
[11:25] <erUSUL> thegrim, he entrado yo ahora pregunta all
[11:25] <N6REJ> robotgeek: is there a howto on spamassassin?
[11:25] <r34per> and your allowed to set max fps to whatever you want
[11:25] <r34per> my brother gets 333 fps capped
[11:25] <Felipe__> ok im installing int
[11:25] <lightbright> r34per: i remeber that game
[11:25] <Felipe__> *it
[11:25] <r34per> hehe
[11:25] <dbyte> lightbright: ok step 2?
[11:25] <robotgeek> dbyte: i dint like lightdark :)
[11:25] <varsendagger> nasimuto, this will help http://www.icims.csl.uiuc.edu/~lheal/doc/gdm/configuration.html
[11:25] <lightbright> dbyte: ok type:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[11:25] <robotgeek> N6REJ: no, i havent really looked.
[11:26] <N6REJ> robotgeek: ok.. np.. ty.
[11:26] <nasimuto> varsendagger: many more thanks :)
[11:26] <lightbright> dbyte: dont questin it, jusyt do it as Phil Nike says :)
[11:26] <lightbright> dbyte: after all that installs, ask me for step 3
[11:26] <varsendagger> you bet
[11:26] <dbyte> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[11:26] <dbyte>   faad ffmpeg lame libdc1394-13 libimlib2 libmjpegtools0 mjpegtools sox
[11:26] <r34per> I constantly play et, everyday. Should I make this switch to unbuntu for gaming?
[11:27] <lightbright> dbyte: so what?  just say yes :P
[11:27] <blue-frog> r34per, what's the result of your wifi usb stuff?
[11:27] <erUSUL> dbyte, please do not paste here...
[11:27] <varsendagger> waht is ET?
[11:27] <r34per> havnt got to try it yet
[11:27] <mjr> r34per, probably not
[11:27] <Goatocausto> how do i install/run/whatever a theme i downloaded ?? i have no idea what to do :( ?????
[11:27] <r34per> downloading the rest of the live cd
[11:27] <r34per> hehe
[11:27] <r34per> et =enemy territory
[11:27] <dbyte> lightbright: I did, I'm just showing the additional things to the dozen or so things I have put on :)
[11:27] <gfish> is there anyway to get wine to work with amd 64 version
[11:27] <dbyte> lightbright: its done
[11:28] <Felipe__> erUSUL, Ok I just intalled the Firestarter, Do I need to do something particular with the wizard that shows at the first start of the firestarter?
[11:28] <robotgeek> gfish: a 32bit chroot, that i know nothing of
[11:28] <blue-frog> Felipe__, follow the wizrad
[11:28] <dbyte> lightbright: next step?
[11:28] <N6REJ> robotgeek: another q.. in applacations > assecories there is a terminal program.  It works great.  HOWEVER, I need two different copys of it.  One I want configured for SSH onto the server the other for local.  right now I have to choose one or the other can't seem to have one copy up at the top near yelp and another in applications menu both configured differently.... any ideas?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> does flash play midi files from browser?
[11:29] <gfish> robotgeek, how would i go about doing that
[11:29] <moo> http://revmoo.home.insightbb.com/desktop.png
[11:29] <robotgeek> gfish: no clue :)
[11:29] <moo> I <3 ubuntu
[11:29] <lightbright> dbyte: ok now type: gst-register-0.8
[11:29] <lightbright> dbyte: after that, ask me for step 4
[11:29] <dbyte> lightbright: step 4?
[11:29] <lightbright> dbyte: you missed step 3?
[11:30] <robotgeek> N6REJ: sure, there's a .desktop file.
[11:30] <Felipe__> Its says eth0 is not ready
[11:30] <lightbright> dbyte: what was the output for step3?
[11:30] <gfish> ok
[11:30] <dr_willis> Felipe__,  not sure  there either. :P was just going to check out the firestarter homepage. It did see my network card however. :P
[11:30] <dbyte> lightbright: registering...blah blah plugins, etc
[11:30] <lightbright> dbyte: if you miss one step it wont work
[11:30] <gfish> robotgeek, im sure google woll
[11:30] <blue-frog> Felipe__, how many ethernet card do you have in your computer?
[11:30] <Felipe__> 2
[11:30] <N6REJ> robotgeek: ok, and what do I do with it other then edit it?  What am I looking for?
[11:30] <blue-frog> Felipe__, are they all configured and running?
[11:30] <dbyte> lightbright: was asking for step 4, not questioning the step number :)
[11:30] <lightbright> dbyte: ok now you need to download w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:30] <robotgeek> N6REJ: cd ~/.local/share/applications
[11:31] <lightbright> dbyte: hey dont give me attitude boy, or you can do this on your own
[11:31] <Felipe__> the eth0 was deactivated im activating it now
[11:31] <dbyte> lightbright: got it installed already, need it reinstalled?
[11:31] <robotgeek> N6REJ: you can add a .desktop file with a your configuration
[11:31] <lightbright> dbyte: how did you install it?
[11:31] <Felipe__> ok now both are running
[11:31] <N6REJ> in that folder?
[11:31] <dbyte> lightbright: sudo dpkg -i  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:32] <lightbright> dbyte: type this and tell me the output on pastebin:  dpkg -l w32codecs
[11:32] <blue-frog> Felipe__, try again the wizard, if it says not running quit fuirestarter and rerun firestarter..
[11:32] <Felipe__> should I assing a static ip to the second eth?
[11:32] <dbyte> lightbright: pastebin?
[11:33] <blue-frog> Felipe__, don't remember but u'd better have staitc IP for your local network yes
[11:33] <lightbright> dbyte: message me the output
[11:33] <dbyte> lightbright: lightbright i picked up that file from the wiki.ubuntu page
[11:33] <lightbright> dbyte: i didnt ask where you got it :P
[11:33] <Felipe__> Ok now the wizar went without trouble
[11:33] <lightbright> dbyte: type this and tell me the output:  dpkg -l w32codecs
[11:34] <Felipe__> do I need to do something to the other pc?
[11:34] <dbyte> lightbright: hrm...you didnt get the /msg?
[11:34] <dbyte> lightbright: lemme try again
[11:34] <lightbright> dbyte: no
[11:34] <blue-frog> Felipe__, gateway is your eth local network
[11:34] <lightbright> dbyte: register your nick first
[11:34] <lightbright> dbyte: or use the paste website
[11:35] <erUSUL> Felipe__, the other pc has to be configured to use the ubuntu as default gateaway
[11:35] <blue-frog> Felipe__, and give a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf as well (for your client)
[11:35] <lightbright> dbyte: now load Totem and tell me what happens
[11:36] <dbyte> lightbright: totem loads fine
[11:37] <lightbright> dbyte: so load something
[11:37] <Felipe__> its working now
[11:37] <dbyte> lightbright: no messages, but on load it says the same thing
[11:37] <dbyte> lightbright: cant read the dvd
[11:37] <lightbright> dbyte: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[11:37] <dbyte> lightbright: source seems to be encrypted, are you trying to play without using libdvdcss2
[11:37] <dbyte> lightbright: what source in sources.list ofr libdvdcss2?
[11:38] <lightbright> dbyte: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[11:38] <seth_slackware> hey
[11:38] <dbyte> lightbright: I installed libdvdcss using the script that comes with libdvdread3
[11:38] <lightbright> dbyte: thats no good
[11:38] <Felipe__> thanks
[11:38] <lightbright> dbyte: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[11:39] <Goatocausto> how do i install/run/whatever a theme i downloaded ?? i have no idea what to do :( ?????
[11:39] <robotgeek> Goatocausto: what theme? for gnome? drag and drop
[11:39] <nickrud> Goatocausto, open system-prefererences-themes, and drop the theme on the window
[11:39] <dbyte> lightbright: ok, libdvdread is installed
[11:39] <libben> linkd: when i think of it: the grub and windows xp partition. The thing u said i could do, chroot and all that reinstall grub, would that really help? whats the diffrence from when i installed the linux system and doing this?
[11:40] <Goatocausto> it just comes in a tar or whatever
[11:40] <nickrud> Goatocausto, the theme manager understands tars
[11:40] <dbyte> lightbright: i dont think i have a source for libdvdcss, just says no candidate found
[11:40] <Goatocausto> oh okay
[11:40] <Goatocausto> ill try it
[11:40] <linkd> libben: itll overwrite the mbr with grub.. thus allowing for dual booting again.
[11:40] <lightbright> dbyte: what country are you in btw?
[11:40] <dbyte> lightbright: us
[11:41] <lightbright> dbyte: is it legal to use that in the USA?
[11:41] <seth_slackware> What packges do I need for totem video plug ins? (.mov and such)
[11:41] <dbyte> lightbright: fair use
[11:41] <lightbright> dbyte: im from Australia where its legal, but is it legal there?
[11:41] <nasimuto> where can i modify my ubuntu startup. To add an extra command for example ?
[11:42] <dbyte> lightbright: to the best of my knowledge they havnt changed their minds again
[11:42] <lightbright> dbyte: i didnt know that!  sorry, i cant help you if its not totally legal to use
[11:42] <libben> linkd: but ive never been able to dual boot with this setup. it was just one disk at first. then a second where i installed linux on. so why should this work when it dident from the installation process, thats my taughts
[11:42] <dbyte> lightbright: initially 2600 got slapped for distrobution, but then eventually it was reversed because its legal for fair use
[11:42] <Goatocausto> ok this is a weird question
[11:42] <dbyte> lightbright: so as long as i play dvds I own its legal
[11:42] <Goatocausto> ive changed the theme and all
[11:42] <Goatocausto> but
[11:42] <linkd> libben: oh.. well u have a different setup to what i imagined. wanna start over explain ur situation and what u wanna do?
[11:43] <Goatocausto> it still keep the colour of a selection of text in firefox for example. the default ubuntu brown !! :S
[11:43] <lightbright> dbyte: whats your objective?  to just play your own DVD's from the DVD drive?
[11:43] <dbyte> lightbright: which is what I am trying to do
[11:43] <dbyte> lightbright: yup
[11:43] <lightbright> dbyte: anything else? :P
[11:43] <dbyte> lightbright: i dont have a dvd burner if thats what your asking :)
[11:43] <lightbright> dbyte: not wanting to copy DVD to hard drive?
[11:44] <dbyte> lightbright: but no, really just after being able to play them
[11:44] <lightbright> dbyte: ok
[11:44] <dbyte> lightbright: dont really have the space for all of that :) dvds are kinda big
[11:44] <ErgoSum> hi all
[11:44] <adrianoc> help-me please ...
[11:44] <adrianoc> CC [M]   /tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/common/task.o
[11:44] <adrianoc> gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:44] <adrianoc> make[2] : *** [/tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/common/task.o]  Error 1
[11:45] <dbyte> lightbright: next step?
[11:45] <lightbright> dbyte: get the latest breezy sourse.list
[11:45] <ErgoSum> i there a way to show mi windows partition without invalid encording?
[11:45] <ErgoSum> lol
[11:45] <libben> well i have an old 40 gb driver wich i partioned to 3 partitions and this is the windows disk. and then i bought a 200 gb disk for linux. and after the installation i couldent boot windowsxp from grub, i tried hd0,0 hd0,1 up to 5. my windows drive is hda so it should be hd0? after i installed linux. and tried to boot xp thru grub, it tells me NTDLR is missing on the partition i think is the C:\ one. i tried all three, but its the NTDLR is m
[11:45] <libben> dows
[11:45] <dbyte> lightbright: where?  I downloaded the install CD yesterday, so I dunno if that is the most current
[11:45] <libben> *^^^ linkd ^
[11:45] <seth_slackware> So I need a quicktime (mov) gstreamer plugin, is there a packge for it, I can't find one
[11:45] <seth_slackware> ?
[11:46] <lightbright> dbyte: go here and copy and paste this:
[11:46] <dbyte> lightbright: i added universe and multiverse to my sources list
[11:46] <lightbright> dbyte: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[11:46] <lightbright> dbyte: overwrite your one totally
[11:46] <nickrud> seth_slackware, your best bet is to switch to totem-xine, and use the w32codecs. gstreamer is not quite up to playing that yet.
[11:46] <linkd> libben: hmm. didnt ubuntu autoconfigure grub for u when it installed?
[11:46] <Topslakr> i'm trying to mount a samba share from the command line. I tried both mount -t smbfs and smbmount with no luck. Does ubuntu do it differently?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> only one problem us.archives.ubuntu.com sources are down
[11:47] <seth_slackware> nickrud: can I safely remove totem and reinstall the totem xine?
[11:47] <erUSUL> libben, you have to fix the nt instalation boot with the win install cd in recovery mode and run fixmbr
[11:47] <dbyte> lightbright: dont change that one at all?
[11:47] <lightbright> dbyte:  done?
[11:47] <lightbright> dbyte: why would you change it?
[11:47] <LjL> Topslakr: you should probably try "-t cifs". anyway, be sure you have "smbfs" installed
[11:47] <nickrud> seth_slackware, yeah, just sudo apt-get install totem-xine, it will replace totem-gstreamer for you.
[11:47] <seth_slackware> k
[11:47] <seth_slackware> Thanks alot
[11:48] <libben> fixmbr is on the cd ?
[11:48] <libben> or is it something to be downloaded?
[11:48] <nickrud> seth_k|lappy, you have the codecs, right (I see slackware)
[11:48] <ErgoSum> ubuntu 64 has lots of problems :S
[11:48] <linkd> libben: fixmbr is onthe win recovery cd
[11:48] <dbyte> lightbright: i just mean uncommenting anything if needed
[11:48] <lightbright> seth_slackware: type this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[11:48] <dbyte> lightbright: didnt change it
[11:48] <delltony> hi anyone have a few mins to help me with a simple bash script? I want to run jhead against all images in a directory and spit out to a file the exif information for each file. but haven't a clue how to do it i have the logic but don't understand how to make it happen.
[11:48] <seth_slackware> lightbright: All ready working on nicks idea
[11:48] <dbyte> lightbright: ok done
[11:49] <lightbright> dbyte: uncomment the last one
[11:49] <ErgoSum> no java no flash on ubuntu 64, :(
[11:49] <dbyte> lightbright: the hoary extras thing?
[11:49] <ErgoSum> i need em
[11:49] <lightbright> dbyte: backports one, the very last line
[11:49] <LjL> delltony: google for "bash scripting", and try the first link. it's a good guide
[11:49] <lightbright> dbyte: finished?
[11:49] <dbyte> lightbright: think we mean the same one backports hoary-extras
[11:50] <dbyte> lightbright: yes done
[11:50] <lightbright> dbyte: now:  sudo aptitude update
[11:50] <ubuntu> hey
[11:51] <lightbright> ubuntu: are you the founder?
[11:51] <ErgoSum> any idea how to make java and flash work on ubuntu 64?
[11:51] <LjL> delltony: or if you want, tell me in a query *precisely* what jhead does (never used it), and what input you have, and what output you want to obtain. i might be able to write it for you
[11:51] <ubuntu> nope
[11:51] <ubuntu> a livecd user
[11:51] <lightbright> ubuntu: your nick suggest it
[11:51] <ubuntu> it's default for livecd
[11:51] <seth_slackware> nickrud: worked great, apt-geted totem-gine, did nothing else and the mov played
[11:51] <dbyte> lightbright: done
[11:51] <lightbright> dbyte: now you can do the install
[11:52] <ubuntu> running off the livecd... and I need to reinstall grub. Anyone know how I can do it? my mbr is messed up, but the grub partition is still there
[11:52] <dbyte> lightbright: done
[11:52] <aimaz> where might i find ubuntu .deb packaging guidelines?
[11:52] <lightbright> ubuntu: CREATE A BOOTABLE GRUB CD
[11:52] <ubuntu> I mean, i need
[11:52] <ubuntu>  arg
[11:52] <ubuntu> I need to install grub to the hard drive
[11:53] <ubuntu> again
[11:53] <Goatocausto> to install icon themes do i just drag that on the theme thing too or???
[11:53] <gnomefreak> apt-get -f install is that a force install?
[11:53] <Goatocausto> you dont "install" grub though
[11:53] <erUSUL> ubuntu, mount the root & boot (if any); chroot to the mount point and run grub-install /dev/hdxx
[11:53] <yohan> i am using openbox, i have a logout button...i wanna make a shutdown one in the menu, is there no command in openbox? what do you guys use?
[11:53] <ubuntu> chroot - that's just chroot <root dir>
[11:53] <ubuntu> ?
[11:54] <erUSUL> yes
[11:54] <ubuntu> thanks
[11:54] <lightbright> dbyte: work now?
[11:54] <yohan> what is the gnome-shutdown program called?
[11:54] <erUSUL> ubuntu, np
[11:55] <n0dl> yohan: you have to edit the xml file
[11:55] <yohan> n0dl: i know how to, but i dont know what the "action" is...do you know?
[11:56] <yohan> n0dl: i need to know which gnome program it is that pops up and asks me if i wanna logout, shutdown or reboot...
[11:56] <dbyte> lightbright: nope
[11:56] <ubuntu> erUSUL, grub-install: command not found
[11:56] <lightbright> dbyte: lol
[11:56] <ubuntu> do I need to apt-get install grub?
[11:56] <n0dl> hmmm... well all i know is that it closes by running a terminal command sudo shutdown -h now
[11:56] <lightbright> dbyte: it works for me, i guess its not meant to work for you then!  accept that and move on
[11:56] <GigaClon> im on windows, where can I download the deb for "linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386"?
[11:56] <erUSUL> ubuntu, you can try
[11:57] <dbyte> lightbright: bout 7 hours ago before i decided to do a clean install of ubuntu it worked
[11:57] <krak`nix> :~$ crontab -l
[11:57] <krak`nix> 0 6 * * * rm -r /home/ted/.Trash/*
[11:57] <krak`nix> does that look right ? :o
[11:57] <dbyte> lightbright: i had originally gone debian -> knoppix -> ubuntu through sources.list manipulation
[11:57] <krak`nix> want to empty the trash daily. 6am
[11:58] <mwe> krak`nix: maybe you want rm -rf
[11:58] <ubuntu> kewl, thanks erUSUL
[11:58] <GigaClon> !debs
[11:58] <ubotu> Not a clue, GigaClon
[11:58] <GigaClon> !breezydebs
[11:58] <ubotu> GigaClon: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:58] <krak`nix> whats -f do?
[11:58] <GigaClon> where can I download breezy debs?
[11:58] <GigaClon> !breezy
[11:58] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:58] <mwe> krak`nix: skip the confirmation request
[11:59] <erUSUL> ubuntu, np
[11:59] <lightbright> dbyte: ok sorry I couldnt help anymore!  because the steps I gave you I used and they worked perfectly!
[11:59] <erUSUL> krak`nix, -f force
[11:59] <ErgoSum> which macromedia employer i have to kill to watch my ubuntu 64 surfing with flash?
[11:59] <dbyte> sigh
[11:59] <krak`nix> ok ill add that
[11:59] <dbyte> guess i will try a fresh install again and see what happens, this is insane
[11:59] <nickrud> ErgoSum, all of them, it appears.
[12:00] <krak`nix> syntax for everything else looks ok though?
[12:00] <ErgoSum> uhhhm