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Lord_Athur	hi!, my name is Alejandro, I've been here a lot of times but now	12:11
Lord_Athur	I'd like to be a member of the edubuntu community, what should I do?	12:12
Lord_Athur	is there anyone?	12:14
Lord_Athur		12:20
Lord_Athur	the web of edubuntu says that you'd like new members	12:25
Lord_Athur	is this truth?	12:26
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Lord_Athur	won't anybody answer me?	12:30
bdoin	too late, the leaders are probably asleep.	12:30
Lord_Athur	mmm	12:30
Lord_Athur	bdoin, what time is it in your country?	12:31
bdoin	I am in france and it's 24:30	12:31
bdoin	in south africa, it should be the same or later	12:31
Lord_Athur	ooo	12:32
Lord_Athur	is not the time in my country	12:32
Lord_Athur	I'm in the south of America	12:32
Lord_Athur	and in is 20:32	12:32
Lord_Athur	I think that this explain everything	12:33
Lord_Athur	:P	12:33
mhz	Lord_Athur: hola	12:33
Lord_Athur	hi	12:33
Lord_Athur	hola	12:34
Lord_Athur	:P	12:34
mhz	hehe	12:34
mhz	dia viernes, a esta hora... normalmente te psasara esto	12:34
Lord_Athur	creo que no me fij en eso	12:34
mhz	pero puedes hacer ping a quien necesites	12:34
bdoin	bye*	12:34
Lord_Athur	adems no soy muy bueno en el ingls	12:34
mhz	bdoin: bye	12:34
Lord_Athur	bye bd	12:34
mhz	Lord_Athur: no problem	12:34
Lord_Athur	:P	12:34
mhz	Lord_Athur: como puedo ayudarte?	12:35
Lord_Athur	mhz, de donde eres?	12:35
mhz	Chile	12:35
Lord_Athur	ap ok	12:35
mhz	y tu?	12:35
Lord_Athur	tambin	12:35
Lord_Athur	:P	12:35
Lord_Athur	santiago	12:35
Lord_Athur	bueno, tengo 15 aos y estoy con la distribucin ubuntu	12:35
Lord_Athur	y estoy instalando edubuntu	12:36
Lord_Athur	pero quisiera participar activamente	12:36
mhz	bienvenido!	12:36
Lord_Athur	gracias	12:36
Lord_Athur	:P	12:36
mhz	iras manana al CDSL?	12:36
Lord_Athur	no tena idea de ese evento	12:36
Lord_Athur	:)	12:36
mhz	Por que deseas usar edubuntu?	12:36
Lord_Athur	eso te demuestra mi falta de informacin	12:36
mhz	Lord_Athur: ojala puedas ir	12:37
mhz	Lord_Athur: muchas veces no nos enteramos pues hay MUCHO sucediendo	12:37
Lord_Athur	porque soy estudiante y simpatizo con las herramientas tecnolgicas que tienen que ver con la educacin	12:37
Lord_Athur	:)	12:37
Lord_Athur	adems me gustan los ordenadores	12:38
Lord_Athur	pero no los juegos que ellos tengan, ms bien sus sistemas operativos y programas	12:38
Lord_Athur	y tambin creo que elinteractuar con trosen ingls me puede acercar ms a Ubuntu y su espritu	12:40
Lord_Athur	mhz, tienes Edubuntu, verdad?	12:41
mhz	sip	12:41
mhz	Lord_Athur: en edubuntu ay mucho por hacer	12:41
mhz	hay	12:42
Lord_Athur	eso creo	12:43
Lord_Athur	a pesar de tener buenas intenciones...	12:43
Lord_Athur	creo q para haer una presentacin en una sala de clases debe exister edubuntu-live	12:44
Lord_Athur	en mi liceo no dejan hacer intervenciones a los sistemas operativos	12:44
Lord_Athur	y por ende edubuntu no presta un servicio muy bueno en ese sentido	12:44
mhz	lo mismo digo, pero de haber -es muy probable- solo sera descargable	12:45
Lord_Athur	si	12:45
mhz	donde estudias?	12:45
Lord_Athur	Liceo Lastarria, de providencia	12:45
mhz	y hay mas gente que use GnuLinux?	12:45
Lord_Athur	eso creo	12:46
Lord_Athur	de hecho hay bastantes estudiantes	12:46
mhz	Lord_Athur: para ser "miembro" de cualquier equipo, debes decidir:	12:46
Lord_Athur	pero no parece haber una sincronizacin entre nosotros	12:46
Lord_Athur	dime	12:46
mhz	a) sere voluntario de vez en cuando cuando en vez	12:46
mhz	b) sere voluntario y aceptare objetivos	12:47
mhz	c) sere voluntario y fanatico evangelizador	12:47
Lord_Athur	prefiero C	12:47
mhz	dpendiendo de la que escojas es la forma	12:47
mhz	PERFECTO!	12:47
Lord_Athur	:)	12:47
mhz	enonces, visita LaunchPad, crea un usuario, con el podras editar cualquier pagina en Ubuntu	12:48
Lord_Athur	creo tener ya un usuario	12:48
mhz	teniendo cuenta en LP, podras sumarte a los equipos oficiales	12:48
Lord_Athur	:)	12:48
mhz	presionando +join link	12:48
mhz	Idealmente, escribe un resumen de tus expectativas y contribuciones	12:49
mhz	en tu home page del wiki y de LP	12:49
mhz	y seras aprobado por c/leader de equipo	12:49
Lord_Athur	ok	12:50
mhz	en tu wiki, incluye tus objetivos	12:50
mhz	basicamente, en estas comunidades se valora mucho los compromisos realizados con exito, los intentos y las caidas. Valoramos mucho la contribucion, la opinion y el espiritu de participar para mejorar	12:51
Lord_Athur	es entonces el tipo de comunidad en la que quiero ingresar	12:51
mhz	Yo, el martes 22 recien fui aceptado como miembro "oficial" de la comunidad ubuntu. (creo que soy aun el unico chileno y latinoamericano en esa categoria). Claro que sucedio despues de casi 6 meses de bastante trabajo	12:52
Lord_Athur	tendr que escribir objetivos en ingls?	12:52
Lord_Athur	felicidades	12:52
mhz	no necesariamente	12:52
mhz	muchas gracias	12:52
mhz	Lord_Athur: dentro de mis objetivos es la administarcion de una mailing-list en castelano para edubuntu	12:53
mhz	ahora, siendo miembro oficial, puedo hacerlo	12:53
Lord_Athur	vaya yo creo estan en unas 5 mailing list de buntu	12:53
Lord_Athur	digo ubuntu	12:53
mhz	sino, hubieramos dependido de que alguno de los espanoles para ello (y de momento no se han presentado en este proyecto)	12:54
Lord_Athur	cuenta para eso conmigo	12:54
mhz	gracias!	12:54
Lord_Athur	:)	12:54
mhz	de momento, en edubuntu, de vez en cuando viene arkan0x y pitux	12:55
mhz	ambos de Chile	12:55
mhz	arkan0x es del CDSL (y estudiante univ. de la chile)	12:55
Lord_Athur	CDSL???	12:55
mhz	pitux es estudiante de la USACH	12:55
mhz	www.cdsl.cl	12:55
mhz	yo, soy miembro de www.tecnocimiento.cl	12:56
mhz	y pitux cordina www.matematicaslibre.cl	12:56
Lord_Athur	que bien	12:57
mhz	cando seas miembro oficial, (habiendo sido sujeto de invitacion y evaluacion del CommunityCouncil) puedes hacerte cargo de responsabilidades en distintos desarrollos (comunitarios o tecnicos)	12:57
mhz	de lo contrario, para liderar algun proyecto deberas tener una especie de padrino	12:57
mhz	como te dije, donde quieras llegar, como todo en la vida, depende de ti solamente.	12:58
Lord_Athur	sip , es verdad	12:58
mhz	por mi parte, me engorgullece muchisimo que seas otro chileno en este "voluntariado por mejorar las cosas"	12:58
Lord_Athur	gracias	12:59
Lord_Athur	donde me dijiste que creara la pgina de inicio?	12:59
mhz	al menos, en este canal, la preocupacion principal son dos: desarrollo y soporte edubuntu y la otra: generacion de comunidades educativa	12:59
Lord_Athur	ya acabo de hacer mi usuario LP	12:59
mhz	tanto en launchpad como en el wiki	12:59
mhz	te doy referencias: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/MauricioHernandez y https://launchpad.net/people/mhz	01:01
mhz	Lord_Athur: debo encargarme de la cena :(	01:01
mhz	vuelvo como en 50 minutos	01:01
mhz	estaras?	01:02
mhz	podras ir al CDSL manana para la install fest?	01:02
Lord_Athur	sip	01:02
mhz	genial!	01:02
Lord_Athur	pestan en la web las especificaciones?	01:03
mhz	nos vemos al rato	01:03
Lord_Athur	direcciones y todo	01:03
mhz	sip	01:03
mhz	sip	01:03
Lord_Athur	bien	01:03
Lord_Athur	te espero	01:03
mhz	de todos modos, probablemente arkan0x esta por llegar aca	01:03
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Lord_Athur	bye	01:03
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Lord_Athur	hi	01:34
zakame	greetz Lord_Athur	01:46
Lord_Athur	hi	01:54
Lord_Athur	zakame hello	01:54
Lord_Athur	:)	01:54
Lord_Athur	hey	01:58
Lord_Athur	zakame,	01:58
Lord_Athur	I've instaled edubuntu from ubuntu	01:58
Lord_Athur	but when this starts I can see "ubuntu" instead of "edubuntu"	01:59
Lord_Athur	what does this mean?	01:59
zakame	hmmm, edubuntu comes from ubuntu, after all :)	02:00
Lord_Athur	yes	02:01
Lord_Athur	but in my father's computer edubuntu says edubuntu (not ubuntu)	02:02
zakame	was your computer a new edubuntu install, or an upgrade?	02:03
Lord_Athur	the computer of my father and mine are upgrade	02:04
Lord_Athur	I've installed this with apt-get	02:05
zakame	where do you see this? on the login screen?	02:06
Lord_Athur	not	02:06
Lord_Athur	in the screen but after of boot and before the login screen	02:07
Lord_Athur	:)	02:07
zakame	in grub?	02:07
Lord_Athur	jajjaa	02:08
Lord_Athur	si	02:08
Lord_Athur		02:08
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arkan0x	mhz_dinner, ping !	02:28
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arkan0x	mhz_dinner, ping !	02:28
arkan0x	mhz, ping	02:28
mhz	pon	02:28
mhz	pong	02:28
arkan0x	ya	02:29
mhz	arkan0x: Lord_Athur es chileno!	02:29
arkan0x	tell me	02:29
arkan0x	hi Lord_Athur !	02:29
arkan0x	how are you ? Lord_Athur xD	02:29
arkan0x	mhz, tell me	02:29
mhz	Lord_Athur: maybe if you reboot, you'll see edubuntu	02:30
Lord_Athur	hi arkan0x	02:30
Lord_Athur	I've done it mhz	02:30
mhz	arkan0x: para el installfest, probablemente tendremos cobertura de chilevision	02:30
Lord_Athur	but this does not change	02:30
mhz	Lord_Athur: hmmm	02:30
arkan0x	mhz, duh !	02:30
Lord_Athur		02:30
mhz	Lord_Athur: y tu /etc/apt/source.list, que tiene comentado?	02:31
arkan0x	mhz, pero es confirmado ? avisaste pala lista ?	02:31
mhz	no todavia, prefiero que sea sorpresa por si acaso	02:31
arkan0x	mhz, yo no prefiero que sea sorpresa	02:31
mhz	por que?	02:31
arkan0x	pq tu sabes como estan las cosas	02:31
mhz	no?	02:32
arkan0x	mhz, yo dejaria eso pa la feria de tecn libres	02:32
arkan0x	onda un reportaje/nota de ubuntu/edubuntu	02:32
mhz	ahhh, bueno, es que el tipo queria ver edubuntu trabajando	02:32
arkan0x	mhz, oks	02:32
mhz	y ademas queria ver el el installfest	02:32
arkan0x	okis	02:32
mhz	entonces pense que era mejor matar 2 pajaros de un tiro	02:33
arkan0x	igual avisa pala lista	02:33
mhz	okey	02:33
arkan0x	mhz, manana llegas como alas 10-11?	02:33
Lord_Athur	a que lista se refieren?	02:33
mhz	a la del cdsl	02:33
mhz	arkan0x: sip	02:33
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, www.cdsl.cl	02:33
arkan0x	mhz, rlz	02:33
mhz	arkan0x: y te puedo enviar el papel?	02:33
arkan0x	mhz, al mail	02:34
mhz	demas, pero alcanzaras a imprimirlo?	02:34
arkan0x	osea , si es una pagina ,claro , imprimo por30	02:34
mhz	ooo	02:34
arkan0x	si es algo mas cuatico	02:34
arkan0x	depende	02:34
arkan0x	mhz, tengo laser b/n	02:34
mhz	te propongo lo siguiente (estaba trabajndo en las tarjetas de tc)	02:35
mhz	dejame pegarle la repasada al papel de ubuntu y te lo mando en 30 mins?	02:35
arkan0x	okz	02:35
mhz	gracias!	02:35
mhz	arkan0x: oye..	02:35
arkan0x	mhz, oigo	02:35
mhz	que crees que seria lo problemeatico respecto a chilevision?	02:35
arkan0x	que el cdsl no es un ente representativo del software libre en chile , osea se pretende eso , pero como que siento que todavia no tenemos un piso ,osea en chile no siento que alguna agrupacion sea representativa ..	02:37
arkan0x	pero como pa salir en la tele	02:37
arkan0x	es como mucha carne pa gato chico	02:37
arkan0x	quizas en el cdsl piensan que es bacan	02:37
mhz	arkan0x: y eso seria negativo? que pasa si con eso llega mas gente de "verdad" a colaborar?	02:37
arkan0x	pero esa es mi vision	02:37
arkan0x	mhz, puede ser	02:38
mhz	arkan0x: totalmente de acuerdo	02:38
Lord_Athur	arkan0x, me registr en cdsl pero el e-mail que reciv esta vaco	02:38
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, ?? , yap deja revisar	02:38
Lord_Athur	gracias	02:38
mhz	arkan0x: y se vera mal si chilevision va pa una nota sobre ubuntu? me refiero, se vera mal que sea en el CDSL?	02:38
arkan0x	mhz, nu	02:39
arkan0x	mhz, pero bueno , ojala que resulte bien y ke se haga mas difusion	02:39
mhz	ah, entonces mejor que sea sorpresa. Asi, si llega el tipo y la camara, genial! y en el cdsl se dan cuenta que estamos haciendo las cosas con mas ganas. Si no llega... nunca hubo dano :)	02:40
arkan0x	mhz, esque siento ese temor , pq la gente que conozco del mundo SL en chile , pa ellos el cdsl como nu pasa na	02:40
arkan0x	mhz, demas	02:40
mhz	ni un problema	02:40
mhz	arkan0x: por eso siempre trato de que hagamos cosas juntos. Se que tu SI haces las cosas.	02:40
mhz	y me da lata que te desgastes porque otros no dan la talla	02:41
Lord_Athur	arkan0x, mhz, esto me suele pasar al adherirme a una lista o algo parecido, ser un problema de mi mail?	02:41
mhz	o sea, concuerdo en que es necesario hacer las cosas porque te das cuenta que es necesario, y que si uno no lo hace... entonces quien?	02:41
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, quieres un mail gmail ?	02:41
mhz	Lord_Athur: enviame un mail a mhz@tecnocimiento.cl	02:42
mhz	Lord_Athur: o un gmail es seguro sin problemas	02:42
Lord_Athur	ok	02:42
Lord_Athur	entonces usar mi cuenta gmail	02:43
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, a ok	02:43
Lord_Athur	:)	02:43
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, pero no te registres de nuevo	02:43
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, te cambio la passwd yo	02:43
arkan0x	y te la envio	02:43
Lord_Athur	ok	02:43
Lord_Athur	te doy mi mail por privado?	02:43
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Lord_Athur	gracias arkan0x	02:57
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, eres de stgo ?	02:58
Lord_Athur	si	02:58
Lord_Athur	y tu igual, verdad?	02:58
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, sipos	02:58
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, para que participes con nosotros en el cdsl	02:58
Lord_Athur	si	03:00
Lord_Athur	maana en el encuentro me presentar	03:00
Lord_Athur	adems ya casi termina el colegio	03:00
Lord_Athur	:)	03:00
Lord_Athur	tu vas en la universidad segn mencion mhz	03:00
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, sep	03:01
Lord_Athur	actualic mis datos en la poag de cdsl, ahora los mail me llegarn a gmail, verdad?	03:01
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, nop , osea la idea es participar ,osea ir al cdsl para que te inscribamos en la lista de correo	03:02
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, puedes utilizar la web para crear contenido , hacer consultas en tu blog , etc	03:02
Lord_Athur	entiendo	03:02
Lord_Athur	maana ir a la reunin	03:03
Lord_Athur	de cdsl	03:03
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, aunque los avisos siempre se publican en la web y en la lista	03:03
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, es un install fest	03:03
Lord_Athur	ok	03:03
Lord_Athur	jajaja	03:03
Lord_Athur	entiendo	03:03
Lord_Athur	pero....	03:03
Lord_Athur	a que se refiere install fest?	03:03
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, festival de instalacion	03:03
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, llevas tu pc y te instalamos linux	03:04
arkan0x	osea , instalamos linux	03:04
arkan0x	"juntos"	03:04
Lord_Athur	ap ok	03:04
Lord_Athur	pero ya tengo instalado linux	03:04
Lord_Athur	:S	03:04
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, van a ver charlas/demos	03:04
Lord_Athur	por eso ir :)	03:05
arkan0x	de software grafico y de edubuntu	03:05
Lord_Athur	adems quiero empezar a participar	03:05
Lord_Athur	en esto de edubuntu	03:05
Lord_Athur	:)	03:05
mhz	Lord_Athur: bienvenido a edubuntu	03:05
mhz	Lord_Athur: tecnocimiento en Chile dese hacer el EdubuntuChileanTour	03:06
Lord_Athur	gracias	03:06
Lord_Athur	:)	03:06
mhz	para eso estamos organizando una base de datos de cerca de 1000 colegios	03:06
Lord_Athur	mhz, me das el enlace a la pag de tecnocimiento por favor?	03:06
mhz	para invitar profesores y alumnos a conocer edubuntu y hacer "trabajo de evangelizacion"	03:06
mhz	www.tecnocimiento.cl	03:07
Lord_Athur	est en la nmina el mo?	03:07
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, cual colegio ?	03:07
mhz	Lord_Athur: si quieres, estara :D	03:07
Lord_Athur	Lastarria	03:07
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, pinguino xD	03:07
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, nonon	03:07
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, pitufo x	03:07
mhz	hehehehe	03:07
Lord_Athur	jajjaa	03:08
Lord_Athur	su	03:08
Lord_Athur	si as nos dicen	03:08
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, por la camisa azul	03:08
Lord_Athur	arkan0x, de que colegio eras?	03:08
Lord_Athur	si	03:08
arkan0x	INBA	03:08
Lord_Athur	por la camisa	03:08
mhz	Lord_Athur: ademas seria bueno si pudieras ayudarnos con EdubuntuSoftwareList y con EdubuntuStudyPackages	03:08
Lord_Athur	INBA?	03:08
mhz	ambos conceptos son paginas del wiki.edubuntu.org/	03:08
arkan0x	barros arana	03:08
Lord_Athur	ok	03:09
Lord_Athur	:)	03:09
mhz	con EdubuntuSoftwareList, necesitamos conocer para que edades serian utiles las palicaciones (algunas son obvias, pero es mejor especificalras)	03:09
mhz	y saber tambien si..	03:09
mhz	son factibles de cruzar con el curriculum o plan de estudio	03:10
Lord_Athur	eso creo	03:10
mhz	o sea, ej: Kalzium, tabla periodica, quimica, util para 2 y 3 medio?	03:10
mhz	coasa asi	03:10
Lord_Athur	pero mhz creo que para todo eso es fundamental tener un edubuntu live	03:10
Lord_Athur	mhz, la tabla periodica se usa entre 1 y 4	03:11
Lord_Athur	:)	03:11
Lord_Athur	toda la enseanza media segn los planes de estudio regulares	03:11
Lord_Athur	:)	03:11
mhz	demas, pero todavia no podra ser. Sera muy pronto eso si. Y si con tecnocimiento logramos hacer lo que tenemo splaneado, entonces nosotros mismo podremos hacer ese edubuntu live	03:11
Lord_Athur	:)	03:11
Lord_Athur	quisiera aprender a programar en linux	03:12
mhz	pero por ahora... esperar y trabajar en prepara material para evangelizar	03:12
mhz	deberias empezar por python	03:12
mhz	hay un libro escrito por un profe super choro, especialmente disenado para ensenar a quien no sabe programar	03:12
mhz	y basa toda su ensenanza desde python	03:13
Lord_Athur	maana me das el nombre	03:13
Lord_Athur	del libro	03:13
Lord_Athur	:)	03:13
mhz	np	03:13
Lord_Athur	?	03:13
mhz	"como pensar como un cientifico de la computacion desde python	03:13
mhz	Lord_Athur: np = no problem	03:13
Lord_Athur	a ok	03:14
Lord_Athur	yo antes programaba en VB para win	03:14
Lord_Athur	:P	03:14
Lord_Athur	jajaja	03:14
mhz	ya es una base	03:14
Lord_Athur	era "bsico"	03:14
Lord_Athur	jajaja	03:14
Lord_Athur	eso creo	03:14
mhz	que tambien puedes listar en tu homepage	03:14
Lord_Athur	saip	03:15
Lord_Athur	digo si	03:15
Lord_Athur	:P	03:15
Lord_Athur	creo que hay mucho que decir	03:15
Lord_Athur	mucho que hablar para mejorar ubuntu, kubuntu y edubuntu	03:15
mhz	demas	03:16
Lord_Athur	breezy no trae "mail"	03:16
Lord_Athur	me gusta escribir mails desde la terminal	03:16
mhz	pero es preciso definir las batallas, una a una, paso a paso	03:16
Lord_Athur	si	03:16
mhz	quizas porque 'mail' no era prioritario, no se.	03:16
mhz	en #ubunut-devel se reunen todos los encargados de programar y desarrollar tecnicamente	03:17
Lord_Athur	tal vez	03:17
Lord_Athur	han de hablar ingls	03:17
Lord_Athur	:S	03:17
mhz	sip	03:17
Lord_Athur	adems	03:18
Lord_Athur	los repositorios que trae la instacin de ubuntu, k y edu son muy malos	03:18
Lord_Athur	casi nunca encuentro los paquetes	03:18
Lord_Athur	que busco	03:18
mhz	arkan0x: Lord_Athur: estare revisando el "panfelto" de ubuntu de manana. beepeen me si me necesitan. arkan0x seria prudente habilitar tu 'beep' de XChat :D	03:19
mhz	Lord_Athur: pero has editado tu source.list?	03:19
Lord_Athur	no con breezy	03:19
mhz	ahh	03:19
Lord_Athur	he tenido malas experiencias al cambiar el source	03:20
Lord_Athur	:S	03:20
mhz	descomenta todos los pares de lineas universe y multiverse	03:20
mhz	y deja descomentadas las lineas de 'estable'	03:20
mhz	para seguridad	03:20
Lord_Athur	en el fondo.. descomento todo	03:21
mhz	luego update y busca los paquetes que deseas.	03:21
arkan0x	mhz, ??>> osea mas rato me envias el documento >	03:21
arkan0x	?	03:21
mhz	ccasi todo, si	03:21
mhz	ahora mismo estoy en eso :)	03:21
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Lord_Athur	mhz_editing,	03:22
Lord_Athur	espera	03:22
Lord_Athur	no tienes un enlace a una lista de soruces?	03:22
Lord_Athur	bueno mejor lo hablamos maana	03:22
Lord_Athur	Hasta luego arkan0x: mhz_editing:	03:22
Lord_Athur	bye	03:22
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mhz_editing	ogra: hey	03:54
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mhz_editing	arkan0x: ya	04:16
arkan0x	al maile	04:17
mhz_editing	arkanox at gmail dot com	04:18
arkan0x	yeah!	04:18
mhz_editing	avisame como se ve, pls	04:18
arkan0x	mhz_editing, podria ser pdf ? ,eske no tengo instalado en arch oo2	04:20
arkan0x	me pase a arch por este rato , taba montando un repositorio de arch	04:21
mhz_editing	hehehe, np	04:21
mhz_editing	w8	04:21
mhz_editing	yap	04:24
arkan0x	oks	04:24
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mhz_editing	cool	04:28
arkan0x	mhz_editing, :( problemas con la tipografia	04:29
arkan0x	no se ve bien	04:29
mhz_editing	chico? gande?	04:29
mhz_editing	logo feo?	04:29
arkan0x	y recien imprimi algo con tipografia comun	04:29
arkan0x	mhz_editing, no	04:29
arkan0x	algunas letras no se ven vien	04:30
arkan0x	los logos estan guenos	04:30
mhz_editing	ejemplo?	04:30
arkan0x	es por la fuente utilizada	04:30
mhz_editing	:(	04:30
mhz_editing	a que hora te levantas manana?	04:31
arkan0x	mmm cmo alas 9	04:31
mhz_editing	es que ahora debo ponerme a imprimir tarjetas	04:31
arkan0x	mhz_editing, okz	04:31
mhz_editing	tan tarde?	04:31
mhz_editing	:)	04:31
arkan0x	voy a ir a ubuntu para cambiar la tipografia	04:31
mhz_editing	si no, podria, una vez sepa como me salen las tarjetas, volver a trabajr en esto	04:32
arkan0x	mhz_editing, nnonn	04:32
arkan0x	mhz_editing, aora imprimi de nuevo	04:32
arkan0x	y salio bien	04:32
arkan0x	xD	04:32
mhz_editing	???	04:32
mhz_editing	me estay?	04:32
mhz_editing	:D	04:32
arkan0x	eske lo hize primero con evince , y dp con gpdf	04:32
arkan0x	mhz_editing, no , no te estoy ....	04:32
mhz_editing	ahhh	04:32
mhz_editing	entonces si sale ok?	04:32
arkan0x	mhz_editing, recuerda estoy en archlinux , lo ultimo...	04:32
mhz_editing	arkan0x: rlz	04:33
mhz_editing	voy a la impresora y vuelvo altiro	04:33
arkan0x	ppor ende , unstable, mas encima toy con archlinux testing ...	04:33
arkan0x	peor aun xD	04:33
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mhz_printing	hehehe	04:33
arkan0x	mhz_printing, !	04:38
arkan0x	mhz_printing, !	04:38
arkan0x	mhz_printing, problema , difucion es difusion !	04:38
arkan0x	imprimi 7 xD asi	04:38
arkan0x	ejje	04:38
arkan0x	mhz_printing, modifica porfa lo de difusion ,	04:42
arkan0x	del pdf	04:42
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mhz_printing	hey	05:02
mhz_printing	arkan0x: estas?	05:08
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mhz	re	05:46
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khermans	My client is failing to connect -- error on boot is "Sending ProxyDHCP request to 192.168.1.3..."	08:43
khermans	it doesnt do anything after that	08:43
khermans	i already replaced the /etc/ltsp/dhcp config from 192.168.0	08:43
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Yagisan	re	11:36
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Lord_Athur	Hola	12:19
Lord_Athur	hello	12:20
Lord_Athur	jejeje	12:22
Lord_Athur	arkan0x, aren't you sleeping?	12:22
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, nop ,pero working	12:23
Lord_Athur	ap ok	12:23
Lord_Athur	may a carry to the install fest any instalation cd of ubuntu?	12:23
Lord_Athur	I won't install it, but maybe other...	12:24
Lord_Athur	:P	12:24
Lord_Athur	arkan0x, have you got your own homepage in wiki?	12:35
arkan0x	Lord_Athur, nop	12:36
Lord_Athur	tienes el enlace a la de mhz?	12:36
arkan0x	tecnocimiento.cl	12:40
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Lord_Athur	ok	12:41
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mhz	hi	12:59
Yagisan	G'day mhz	01:00
mhz	Yagisan: hey happy and tired gifted daddy	01:00
Yagisan	mhz: not so happy - wife is getting bad news about her parents	01:01
Yagisan	mhz: One seems very sick	01:01
mhz	Yagisan: ooops, sorry to hear that	01:01
mhz	what's the prob?	01:02
Yagisan	mhz: I'm not sure yet - but my wife is in tears - so it is not good	01:02
mhz	man, I am truly sorry.	01:05
mhz	difficult sitiations call for extreame solutions	01:05
mhz	is praying a solutions for you?	01:06
mhz	I mean, is faith a way to face things?	01:06
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Yagisan	mhz: I am not a religious person, so that doesn't work for me. I hope too find out the exact details of what is wrong soon	01:11
Yagisan	mhz: as she is on the phone to her parents now	01:11
mhz	oh, ok, I see. I am not a religious person either, but I always see details that remind me there's something else.	01:18
mhz	:)	01:18
spacey	mhz, your that MauricioHernandez guy?	01:26
spacey	or am i confusing people here	01:26
mhz	spacey: yup	01:26
mhz	i am	01:26
spacey	did you read my mail at list?	01:27
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mhz	spacey: could you be more spceific ? :D	01:27
spacey	the studypackagestuff	01:28
spacey	at edubuntu mailinglist	01:28
spacey	i replied at your thread	01:29
mhz	oooohhh	01:29
mhz	so far, I have 8 mails regarding that	01:30
mhz	what is your email address?	01:30
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mhz	so far, Mallory and Herman, and the rest are latinamerican folks	01:31
mhz	ogra: morning?	01:31
spacey	i'm Herman	01:32
spacey	sorry	01:32
mhz	duh!, no wonder I couldnt find your match :D	01:32
spacey	forget that you can't see it on my nick	01:32
mhz	yup	01:32
mhz	I am no running from CIA so I can use my name :D	01:32
spacey	hehe	01:33
spacey	same here	01:33
mhz	spacey: indeed, I am looking at sourceforge	01:33
mhz	schoolforge	01:33
spacey	uh	01:33
mhz	sorry	01:33
spacey	y	01:33
mhz	sorry	01:33
mhz	schoolforge	01:33
spacey	but they only state that they do content, they don't seem to have it	01:33
spacey	and we can just use their stuff if they have	01:33
mhz	I remember I saw the project long time ago	01:33
spacey	;p	01:33
mhz	yup	01:34
spacey	i'll see what comes up tonight	01:34
spacey	off to work now.	01:34
spacey	cya	01:34
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Lord_Athur	hi	01:34
Lord_Athur	mhz,	01:34
Lord_Athur	buen da	01:34
mhz	that is why I proposed this edubuntu project. I had visited many sites and none providing real contents	01:34
mhz	Lord_Athur: hi there	01:34
Lord_Athur	hi	01:35
mhz	spacey: thx anyways, please jump in and lets work 2gether	01:35
mhz	Lord_Athur: estoy por cerrar mi tarro y arreglar cosasa para ir al CDSL	01:35
mhz	iras?	01:35
mhz	ogra: my today biz cards include 'edubuntu' logo. I hope it's ok	01:36
ogra	mhz, sure	01:36
ogra	hi btw	01:36
mhz	ogra: and if needed, I can upload the SVG tonite (it is letter size for 10 biz cards each sheet)	01:36
mhz	hehehe	01:36
mhz	ogra: so, did you read my pinging questions about responsibilities and Launchpad group for study packages?	01:37
=== ogra has company cards from canonical so he doesnt really care ...
mhz	hehehehe	01:37
mhz	well, that's diff :D	01:37
=== mhz spent 3 hours between designing them, printing them, cut them, etc
ogra	i think its ok if everyone who is in the edubuntu launchpad team can also print cards ...	01:37
ogra	so put them up if you want	01:38
ogra	there seems to be no svg version of the CD cover ...	01:38
mhz	yup, and you gotta be motivated to do spend 3 hours (1.5 hour only cutting them)	01:38
ogra	could you upload one ?	01:38
ogra	you can go to a copy shop, the do it for you ;)	01:38
ogra	(at least here)	01:38
mhz	ogra: yup, there's only SVG version (old with little text mistakes compared o the one in breezy) in the old wiki page EdubuntuCdCoverAndSlip	01:39
ogra	nope, thats a png ... you just named it svg	01:39
mhz	ogra: yup, but it was 01:30 AM when I started and I have to save each penny for EdubuntuChileanTour	01:40
mhz	ogra: wrong :D	01:40
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Lord_Athur	bye to everyone	01:40
Lord_Athur	:)	01:40
ogra	mhz, dont get it to me, get it to the wiki ;)	01:41
mhz	http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuCdAndSlip?action=AttachFile	01:41
ogra	all .svg attachment are pngs there	01:41
mhz	ogra: nope, I have just downloaded SVG from that url I just gave you	01:44
mhz	:)	01:44
ogra	i only get pngs from it, no matter what i try	01:44
mhz	weired	01:44
ogra	and others apparently too	01:44
mhz	and you see all this listing?	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (720.3 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverV1.svg	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (32.4 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverV2.png	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (118.4 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverV2.svg	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (205.4 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdCoverWithWorldV2.svg	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (1162.6 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdSlipV1.svg	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (181.2 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdSlipV2.png	01:45
mhz	* [get \| view] (741.8 KB) attachment:edubuntu_CdSlipV2.svg	01:45
ogra	oh, sorry, i used the links from the page...	01:45
mhz	ahhh	01:45
mhz	see?	01:45
ogra	how are users supposed to get the svgs `	01:45
ogra	?	01:45
mhz	I know, I know u r right	01:45
mhz	it is just that as Pablo was supposed to provide the last corrections (his text versions were traced so nobody could actually change text to avoid font printing diff)	01:46
mhz	I waited and waited to upload the last editable text SVG versions	01:47
ogra	why should someone change the text ?	01:47
mhz	ok, I'll upload old ones in the meantime	01:47
mhz	hmmmmmm, don't know. But we had based our ideas on hoary texts, not breezy	01:48
ogra	isnt that the text JaneW approved ?	01:48
mhz	and there are some slight diff	01:48
mhz	like "for your PC version"	01:48
mhz	the back text? yes	01:48
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mhz	the text on the cd label? yup, but she also mentioned a change in "free to copy" part	01:48
mhz	and someonel else pointed the "for your PC version" instead of "x86 version"	01:49
ogra	then please change it in the version, but i''m not happy with people makiong random changes to the text	01:49
mhz	those minimal text diff, I could not edit becuase of the "traced" texts	01:49
ogra	PC version is confusing ...	01:50
mhz	sighs	01:50
mhz	I am just a volunteer	01:50
ogra	macintoshes are power PCs	01:50
mhz	EXACTLY!	01:50
ogra	so please leave the architecture as is	01:50
mhz	I did not want to change it either, but...	01:50
ogra	its the same on the breezy covers afaik	01:50
mhz	really?	01:50
mhz	now tyou tell men? :D	01:51
mhz	now ou tell me? :D	01:51
mhz	ahhhh	01:51
ogra	i didnt know you were changing it	01:51
mhz	EKBD	01:51
mhz	okis	01:51
ogra	please discuss such changes on the mailing list, dont just silently make them	01:51
mhz	so I will change the "free to copy" thing JaneW asked me	01:51
ogra	i want to be able to know if i have a ppc, x86 or amd64 CD i install from	01:52
mhz	ogra: now I know. I am kind of shy sometimes (only sometimes)	01:52
ogra	there must be a way to distinguish them	01:52
mhz	:)	01:52
mhz	yup, indeed	01:52
mhz	okis, so, in the meantime, i'll upload those old versions and tonite, I'll upload new version "free to copy" thing	01:53
ogra	yup	01:53
mhz	http://www.gnuskole.dk/	01:56
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ogra	i think fabbione works with them	01:58
mhz	oh, I understood nothing, only the name	01:59
mhz	files at home, people can proceed	02:00
mhz	ogra: I am leaving for the InstallFest and did I mention TV will be there ?	02:01
mhz	ogra: so, did you read my pinging questions about responsibilities and Launchpad group for study packages?	02:01
ogra	yup, you did :) ggod luck	02:01
mhz	thx	02:01
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ogra	mhz, yes, i dont understand whats your prob with it ... the project needs someone to be responsible for it...	02:02
mhz	ogra: no problem at all	02:02
ogra	so thats why jane asked if you take that responsibility	02:02
mhz	just ignorant about ubuntu procedures	02:02
mhz	I can take responsibilities, no problem	02:02
mhz	wondering if organizing group work means I also have to crate a group in LaunchPad? or it is only needed via wiki, etc.	02:03
ogra	since the packages will be separate for now (or do you think you can make it in the next 6 weeks before UVF ?) i dont think you need to match any ubuntu procedures yet	02:03
ogra	it would be cool to have a launchpad team for it ...	02:04
ogra	so you can track who is committed to the project	02:04
mhz	oohh, I see. That info I didnt know it.	02:04
mhz	LP/ yup, i thought so but I had to ask before, or no?	02:04
ogra	upstream version freeze means there will be no new upstream versions of packages	02:04
=== mhz remembers ogra "suffered" that sindrom :D
ogra	this is around mid/end of january ... i'd have to look it up in the release schadule, there is the xact date	02:05
mhz	okis, so I have more info for my talk now.	02:05
mhz	thx for clarifying that to me	02:05
mhz	BTW, edubuntu was 57 yeasterday at distrowathc :(	02:06
ogra	we are fully bound to the ubuntu release schedule ...	02:06
mhz	no problem, I think it has its positiveness	02:06
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mhz	ogra: have a nice day	02:06
mhz	bye	02:06
ogra	you too :)	02:07
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lucasvo	why is kubuntu-artwork-usplash a dependency of kubuntu-desktop?	03:38
crimsun	-ECHANNEL?	03:39
lucasvo	I want to have edubuntu usplash and not kubuntu, how can I set the bootsplash?	03:39
lucasvo	crimsun: ?	03:39
crimsun	install edubuntu-artwork-usplash	03:39
ogra	lucasvo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`	03:39
ogra	after installing edubuntu-artwork-usplash indeed	03:40
crimsun	yep, gotta run that step	03:40
ogra	there was no usplash upgrade option in breezy and reconfiguring linux-image from another package on upgrades is evil ... so you have to run it manually ...	03:41
lucasvo	ogra: the problem is I installed the kubunut-desktop because I would like to have kde but I can't remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash...	03:41
ogra	dapper has a usplash upgrade option without touching the linux-image package	03:41
lucasvo	lucasvo@lama:~$ dpkg --list \| grep usplash	03:41
lucasvo	ii edubuntu-artwork-usplash 0.1.0-9 edubuntu artwork for usplash	03:41
lucasvo	ii kubuntu-artwork-usplash 5.10-19 kubuntu artwork for usplash	03:41
lucasvo	ii usplash 0.1-22 Userspace bootsplash utility	03:41
lucasvo	lucasvo@lama:~$	03:41
ogra	just remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash	03:41
ogra	it does no harm...	03:42
lucasvo	I last installed kubuntu-artwork-usplash and I can't remove it because it is a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop	03:42
lucasvo	and I want kde	03:42
lucasvo	lucasvo@lama:~$ sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash	03:42
lucasvo	Reading package lists... Done	03:42
lucasvo	Building dependency tree... Done	03:42
lucasvo	The following packages will be REMOVED:	03:42
lucasvo	kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-desktop	03:42
lucasvo	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	03:42
ogra	thats fine	03:43
crimsun	you only need to install edubuntu-artwork-usplash and execute the dpkg-reconfigure command that ogra gave you	03:43
ogra	you wont loose kde	03:43
lucasvo	so what is kubuntu-desktop?	03:43
ogra	a metapackage	03:43
crimsun	(like edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop)	03:43
ogra	it only cares for pulling in all the kde stuff	03:43
lucasvo	aha	03:43
lucasvo	ok	03:43
ogra	you might need it if you onceupgrade the complete system to the next release, but until then its useless	03:44
lucasvo	ogra: ok	03:44
ogra	as well as the other -desktop packages ..	03:44
lucasvo	ogra: what is release of edubuntu dapper?	03:44
ogra	?	03:44
lucasvo	when will it be released?	03:45
ogra	april	03:45
lucasvo	s/what/when/g	03:45
lucasvo	ogra: no exact date available/	03:45
ogra	we always release in april and october	03:45
ogra	look at the release schedule on the iki... i cant remember from the top of my head	03:45
ogra	*wiki	03:45
lucasvo	ok	03:46
lucasvo	ogra: is dapper available for non-developers as an image or package server?	03:47
ogra	sure, but you dont want to try it yet :)	03:47
lucasvo	ogra: whats wrong?	03:48
ogra	you can either change your repositorys to upgrade to dapper ... or grab an image from cdimage.ubuntu.com	03:48
ogra	kernel and hardware detection changes for example	03:48
ogra	the bootprocess gets reworked completely...	03:49
ogra	if you dont know how to solve problems on a very low level you wont be able to boot at one point etc ... if aou feel confident you can work around bugs and breakage, try it ;)	03:49
lucasvo	hm miuubuntu ist stalled on dapper roadmap :(	03:51
ogra	whats miuubuntu	03:54
ogra	?	03:54
lucasvo	ogra: I don't know how to make the "miu" on my keyboard	03:58
ogra	you mean micro ?	03:59
lucasvo	ogra: yes	03:59
lucasvo	the greek letter miu	03:59
ogra	thats idling since hoary ...	03:59
lucasvo	ogra: yes too bad	03:59
ogra	i dont think anybody has time for it ...	03:59
lucasvo	is there any way how to speed it up as a normal user?	03:59
ogra	develop it ;)	04:00
lucasvo	ogra: not as a developer	04:00
ogra	find developers doing it for you would be the alternative then :)	04:00
lucasvo	ogra: make a bounty?	04:01
ogra	if you have the money :)	04:01
lucasvo	ogra: I don't	04:02
lucasvo	ogra: makr shuttleworth has it :D	04:02
ogra	he would bounty it if he would like to put money in it :)	04:02
lucasvo	ogra: too bad that normal users don't write bugreports	04:02
lucasvo	one should make it more easy	04:03
ogra	we have 20000 bugs in bugzilla... do you think they are only written by developers ?	04:03
ogra	normally normal users write bugreports :)	04:03
Yagisan	lucasvo: I write bug reports	04:05
Yagisan	lucasvo: and occasionally, the patch that fixes it too. I'm just a "normal" user	04:06
lucasvo	Yagisan: I do as well,	04:06
lucasvo	but my sister doesn't :D	04:06
lucasvo	and I don't have time to teach her how to do it so one should make a guide	04:07
Yagisan	lucasvo: why ? click report a new bug, type description, click ok - how hard is that ?	04:08
Yagisan	mhz is gone now isn't he ?	04:09
lucasvo	Yagisan: say why one should report bugs, where one should report bugs etc.	04:09
ogra	Yagisan, yup... he does a presentation	04:11
Yagisan	ogra: thanks	04:12
Yagisan	lucasvo: Do we really need to state that if you don't report it, it won't be fixed ?	04:12
Yagisan	lucasvo: it is already documented on the ubuntu.com website	04:13
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lucasvo	ogra: will you teacher administration panel applet work when you will release dapper?	04:25
ogra	depends how many people contribute to it	04:28
ogra	its not my main focus	04:28
lucasvo	is there any way how to open rar files with archivmanager?	04:28
juliux	lucasvo, you have to install unrar i think	04:29
ogra	most likely unrar-nonfree from multiverse	04:29
lucasvo	juliux: thanls	04:31
lucasvo	thanks	04:31
juliux	lucasvo, np	04:31
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu \| Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel \| Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org \| NEXT MEETING: Nov 23 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. \| Edubuntu 5.10 is out, grab it while its hot ! http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ \| Installation help http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes \| Yagisan has a boy !!
=== Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Sat Nov 19 16:35:42 2005
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lucasvo	I would like to have openmosix on ltsp client's	06:22
lucasvo	:D	06:22
lucasvo	if you want to migrate from normal client structure to ltsp you want to keep your old powerful hardware and use it, you don't want to buy a new server...	06:23
ogra	currently we have some rather basic tasks to do... things like clustering have no high priority yet...	06:24
ogra	thats a dapper+1 thing ...	06:24
lucasvo	ogra: are there any dapper+1 name proposals?	06:52
ogra	nope, not yet	06:53
ogra	nobody thinks about dapper+1 now :)	06:53
lucasvo	ogra: a friend has a working openmosix & ltsp server client environnment, but with debian kernel 2.4	06:53
ogra	thats no option... we'll never use 2.4	06:54
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lucasvo	ogra: I first have to try out how to build a normal kernel before building one with openmosix	06:56
ogra	you use kernel-package for ubuntu kernels	06:57
lucasvo	ogra: you mean the source?	06:58
ogra	nope, the package kernel-package has all the tools you need to build a package with the kernel for ubuntu	06:59
ogra	i.e. make-kpkg which is the most essential part	06:59
lucasvo	ogra: when I build my own ltsp kernel, I can disable scsi and ide/sata?	07:02
lucasvo	to speed up booting?	07:02
ogra	doesnt matter if you have no ide controller the modules wont get loaded anyway ...	07:02
ogra	and note that building a kernel right that even works with initramfs is non-trivial ...	07:03
lucasvo	non-trivial, I don't understand?	07:03
ogra	afaik openmosix doesnt work with 2.6 at all... but i might be wrong	07:03
ogra	its a task i wouldnt do	07:03
lucasvo	ogra:it says avaible from CVS	07:04
lucasvo	ogra: but isn't there already the configure-file from the actual kernel in the fs?	07:04
ogra	sure	07:05
ogra	so you can look up whats built in	07:05
lucasvo	ogra: I thought one can copy it to current kernel source and than use make-xconf or whatever it is called, to adjust it?	07:11
ogra	sure	07:11
ogra	but you should use make-kpkg to create a linux-image package ... else you wont get it working with ubuntus initramfs	07:12
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thak	anyone have any thoughts on what to look for when my thin clients can't even get an ip address from my edubuntu ltsp server?	07:30
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littlepaul	question about https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LTSPHowTo <- is this howto not obsolete now?	08:11
ogra	not for warty and hoary	08:12
ogra	but it should be noted in red and 48pt bold letters that itsn not for > hoary	08:13
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littlepaul	ogra you mean breezy? :)	08:13
ogra	i meant bigger than hoary	08:13
littlepaul	k	08:14
ogra	;)	08:14
littlepaul	ok; breezy uses ltsp 4.13 right?	08:14
ogra	sorry ... programmer	08:14
ogra	nope	08:14
lucasvo	my mouse on ltsp client doesn't work anymore :(	08:14
ogra	breezy uses its own implementation	08:14
littlepaul	i know but which version is this? Or do you have another number convention?	08:15
ogra	yes, breezy ltsp 0.58	08:15
littlepaul	ok	08:15
ogra	ltsp.org is adopting it as ltsp 4.2	08:16
littlepaul	so in near future the differences should be smaller between this implementations?	08:16
ogra	yes	08:16
littlepaul	i will try to write down some german answers - i kind of faq :) but I will need your help; I have read the logfiles of the last 3 weeks and found interesting some questions/answers	08:19
lucasvo	crap! I can't get my mouse on the client to work	08:20
ogra	what did you break ?	08:20
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lucasvo	ogra: just made a new ltsp system	08:27
lucasvo	sudo ltsp-build-client	08:28
lucasvo	ogra: do you know what I could have done wrong?	08:37
lucasvo	ogra: reboot doesn't work	08:37
ogra	is the psmouse module loaded on the client ?	08:38
ogra	(you need to set a root pw in the chroot and log in on console)	08:38
lucasvo	ah yes exactly I need to do this	08:38
lucasvo	that's what I did last time	08:39
ogra	add psmouse to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/modules	08:39
ogra	but i still would like to know why its not getting loaded ...	08:39
ogra	must be a udev/hotplug bug	08:39
lucasvo	yes	08:40
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AstroKing	I have a Grub question with Error 18. I'm a newbie, just so you know. Google said it's something to do with grub being installed beyond the last cylinder of the hard drive (this is an old 10 gig drive on a P2-400mhz.). Is there any way to fix or move grub? I've tried installing this twice and it's the same error.	08:52
ogra	change the LBA setting for your disk in the BIOS	08:53
AstroKing	Can you tell me what LBA stands for?	08:55
ogra	logical block adressing or something similar	08:57
AstroKing	in the BIOS it says size is 528 and cylinders 1024, head 16. it's in AUTO mode, so i'm assuming it's detecting this correctly.	08:57
AstroKing	got it fixed! i did change that setting but also used ultimate boot cd to reinstall grub. it's booting up now..thanks a million, ogra.	09:00
ogra	:)	09:00
lucasvo	ogra: soon you are a millionaire	09:01
ogra	heh	09:01
ogra	nope i dont want to be one ...	09:01
AstroKing	too much taxes, lol	09:01
ogra	i work for one, thats enough ;)	09:02
lucasvo	ogra: communist?	09:02
lucasvo	ogra: lol	09:02
ogra	nope, but for a million you also have to do work for a million ...	09:03
lucasvo	ogra: that is true	09:03
lucasvo	ogra: like get out into space for affrica? :D	09:03
ogra	uuh, i wouldnt want that ... even if its exciting if mark talks about ...	09:04
ogra	if i could just beam into ISS i'd surely go :)	09:04
lucasvo	ogra: is it an unpleasant flight/	09:09
ogra	yes	09:09
ogra	and i got enough with flying to all these conferences	09:10
ogra	i'm not a big fly fan....	09:10
ogra	neither of the insects nor of the activity	09:10
lucasvo	ogra: you go to conferences in london?	09:11
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ogra	the edubuntu summit was there ... beginnig of the year	09:12
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Lord_Athur	heyhi	11:32
Lord_Athur	:)	11:32
Lord_Athur	does anyone have a soures list for edubuntu breezy?	11:33
Lord_Athur		11:37
Lord_Athur	come on!	11:37
bluefrog-10	same as ubuntu	11:37
Lord_Athur	but	11:37
Lord_Athur	with the default lista of sources I cannot install any programs	11:38
bluefrog-10	and what is your default?	11:38
Lord_Athur	mmm	11:38
Lord_Athur	do I write to you a copy of the breezy sources list ?	11:39
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bluefrog-10	synaptic > repositories shows what?	11:39
bluefrog-10	pastebin.com	11:40
Lord_Athur	ok	11:40
littlepaul	bluefrog-10, I read you have made a bash script with menus to install/configure apt-proxy. Can I have a look at it?	11:41
bluefrog-10	sending it to you...	11:41
bluefrog-10	littlepaul, accept the file works or not?	11:42
littlepaul	bluefrog-10, pls send it to littlepaul AT 110-support.de; it didn't worked	11:43
bluefrog-10	i paste it to pastebin.com	11:43
littlepaul	k	11:43
bluefrog-10	just put it in a file and make u+x	11:43
littlepaul	thx	11:44
bluefrog-10	http://pastebin.com/439106	11:45
littlepaul	got it; thx	11:46
bluefrog-10	hum hang on need to send it to u by mail apparently pastebin has a limitation on the number of lines...	11:47
bluefrog-10	don't see all the lines i have in my script	11:47
bluefrog-10	u should have it by mail by now...	11:49
littlepaul	got it; and now I'm also aware about this line limitation :)	11:50
bluefrog-10	just run the script, a menu will appear in your terminal, then it's pretty much straight forward..	11:50
bluefrog-10	it's not the best code written as 4 days before I didn't know anything about bash but so far it's working..	11:51
littlepaul	I will show this script to juliux; we are next week in Essen	11:52
bluefrog-10	littlepaul, and by the way any comment interests me (especially bad ones..)	11:52
juliux	littlepaul, which script?	11:53
bluefrog-10	as it is it's not finished as i need to implementsamb-ldap user management but didn't have time	11:53
littlepaul	the script I got a few minutes ago :) a bash script with menus to install/configure apt-proxy.	11:53
bluefrog-10	but every menu that is implemented so far works ok on a fresh install...	11:53
juliux	hm i don't need apt-proxy, i have a mirror in the lan	11:54
littlepaul	the scripts brings much more than apt-proxy :)	11:55
bluefrog-10	and i found out few days ago that i could do nice boxes with zenity so am going to do that when time will allow me..	11:55
littlepaul	yes zentiy is a nice thing	11:56
bluefrog-10	hum only samba-ldap (no ssl)	11:56
littlepaul	ok	11:56
bluefrog-10	if any can improve the samba-ldap to working with ssl (not difficult, i should have done it) but especially with tls (samba part), I'll be glad, I foun d a lot of theory everywhere on the web but no one with a working example	11:57
bluefrog-10	ldap ssl easy, samba tls another story (at least for me	11:58
littlepaul	:/	11:58
littlepaul	bluefrog-10, did ogra already had look over your script?	11:59
bluefrog-10	i should have put a warning for apt-proxy, use a static address...	11:59
bluefrog-10	no	12:00
bluefrog-10	talk to him once that i waas doing something but he hasn't seen it	12:00
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bluefrog-10	wanted to put it on wiki but i wanted to implement the samb-ldap user management before doing so to give people not a half finished samb-ldap implementation..	12:01
bluefrog-10	littlepaul, you can distribute it if u want it has been done for that purpose anyway...	12:02

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