[12:00] <airox> Hi. Is there some utility to change the speedstep of my Pentium III Coppermine ?
[12:00] <ErgoSum> ill kill em all and then let God select them
[12:01] <airox> cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me 419MHz, but my processor is capable of 850MHz.
[12:01] <nickrud> ErgoSum, you could try gplflash
[12:01] <sap> hi, could someone tell me what the equivalent of lspci is for the isa bus?
[12:01] <ispiked> anyone have any experience with synclient not remembering settings after reboot? or is it not supposed to do that?
[12:01] <ErgoSum> nickrud, i cant install i have  aproblem with ./configure
[12:01] <erUSUL> sap, none afaik
[12:01] <nickrud> ErgoSum, what problem? you probably need a -dev package
[12:02] <seth_slackware> I need the  w32codecs xine codecs (Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled.) what packge?
[12:02] <mwe> krak`nix: it looks fine as far as I can tell
[12:02] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[12:02] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[12:02] <lightbright> seth_slackware: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[12:02] <erUSUL> !tell seth_slackware about w32codecs
[12:02] <ErgoSum> nickrud, i installed gcc make etc
[12:02] <krak`nix> mwe: ok thanks, new to cron so just want to make sure :>
[12:02] <pepsi> hi there
[12:02] <sap> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[12:02] <navarone> Anyone else using xchat lose the list of channel users...possibly because of using xfce theme?
[12:03] <LjL> ErgoSum: what is it that you're trying to compile, and what errors does it give on ./configure (paste it in the pastebin)
[12:03] <GigaClon> hello can i get some help
[12:03] <lightbright> can I delete everything from /tmp ?
[12:03] <nickrud> ErgoSum, there are some instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it tells you what extra packages to install
[12:03] <GigaClon> i need to install something on my ubuntu box w/o internet
[12:03] <lightbright> can I delete everything from /tmp ?  is this safe and w\ont break anything?
[12:03] <ErgoSum> oh ill take a look on that wiki thanks
[12:04] <seth_slackware> stop being free sofware zealots
[12:04] <nickrud> ErgoSum, I've seen one person try that on an amd, and it failed. I hope you have better luck
[12:04] <lightbright> GigaClon: if its not on the CD, then you can't
[12:04] <nickrud> seth_slackware, he has an amd64, no flash for it
[12:04] <pepsi> so lets take a vote.. dapper flight 1 cd (from 11/18) daily cd (from today) or daily dvd (from 11/22)?
[12:04] <lightbright> nickrud: can I delete everything from /tmp ?  is this safe and w\ont break anything?
[12:05] <seth_slackware> nickrud: I don't have any clue what that has to due with
[12:05] <GigaClon> I know there is a website that has the breezy debs for downloading linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[12:05] <erUSUL> lightbright, no you can not delete the things under tmp unless you are the owner
[12:05] <Mars^^> Hi i have a little problem
[12:05] <nickrud> lightbright, there's some sockets in use there that I'd personally leave alone
[12:05] <lightbright> ok
[12:05] <nickrud> seth_slackware, sorry, must have skipped thru threads there
[12:05] <erUSUL> lightbright, this things get seleted each shutdown btw
[12:05] <gfish> i installed an mp4 plugin to xmms it makes it crash how do i uninstall the plugin
[12:05] <gnomefreak> GigaClon,  you said you didnt have internet and light was right you cant download anything without a net connection
[12:06] <rmbrain> Can somebody help me here?  Some people say that Linux is secure by default, and that by installing Linux you are basically immune to viruses because it is so secure.  Other people tell me that its not what OS you use, but the security practices you take.
[12:06] <Mars^^> I istalled kubuntu for PC (Intel x86) despite the fact i have AMD athlon 2800+ what schould i do now?
[12:06] <dr_willis> despite?
[12:06] <tritium> Mars^^, enjoy?
[12:06] <GigaClon> im trying to get my winmodem to work
[12:06] <pepsi> Mars^^, that was the right choice
[12:06] <dr_willis> are you having some sort of issue?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> amd 2800+ is a 32bit processer no?
[12:06] <gfish> how do i uninstall a plugin i installed for xmms
[12:07] <Mars^^> amd athlon 64 :] 
[12:07] <pepsi> so either live with it or reinstall
[12:07] <gnomefreak> gfish,  sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[12:07] <erUSUL> rmbrain, the fact is that linux has almost no viruses so you can be more negligent
[12:07] <lightbright> gfish: good question
[12:08] <lightbright> gfish: how did you install it?
[12:08] <rmbrain> erUSUL, so thats like saying you can afford to be lazy?
[12:08] <GigaClon> someone was asking how to install packages without internet, and they got a webaddress of breezy debs
[12:08] <gfish> gnomefreak, so id put sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms-mp4
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Mars^^,  my understanding is that the 64 bit chip will run 32 bit programs
[12:08] <lightbright> gfish: use aptitude to remove things
[12:08] <nickrud> rmbrain, it's both: linux is so small, not a lot of people target it, so the viruses out there are for windows. Plus, you can put yourself wide open to the few who do target linux
[12:08] <gnomefreak> gfish, if thats the package name yes
[12:08] <navarone> how and why would the user list for channel disappear in xchat?
[12:08] <lightbright> gfish: sudo aptitude remove xmms-mp4
[12:08] <LjL> lightbright: don't think that'll do much, if apt-get was used when installing
[12:09] <rmbrain> nickrud, so am i right in saying that its not the OS that you use but the processes that you take to secure that OS?
[12:09] <Stormx2> command to find out where the files of a package are installed to?
[12:09] <darksoul> how many people use wine and how many people use cedega?
[12:09] <erUSUL> rmbrain, is like saying that you do not need antivirus and you are forced to not use ie
[12:09] <pepsi> darksoul, vmware!
[12:09] <Stormx2> darksoul: tried cedega, didn't like it
[12:09] <nickrud> rmbrain, all things being equal, probably true.
[12:09] <lightbright> LjL: really?  if something was installed with apt-get, aptitude cant remove it?  really?
[12:09] <Stormx2> darksoul: I use wine
[12:09] <tritium> Stormx2, dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:09] <darksoul> Stormx2 why?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> aptitude is not a replacement for commands its a different command totally
[12:09] <LjL> lightbright: no, it *can* remove it, it's just not going to have an advantage over removing it with apt-get
[12:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak:  can I delete everything from /tmp ?  is this safe and w\ont break anything?
[12:10] <darksoul> Stormx2 i got some things running on cedega that i never got running on wine.. but yea wine is better at some things
[12:10] <lightbright> LjL: who told you that?
[12:10] <nickrud> aptitude owns apt-get ;)
[12:10] <tritium> aptitude does in fact rock
[12:10] <linkd> so ive heard
[12:10] <GigaClon> apt-get has super cow powers
[12:10] <lightbright> LjL: how do you know for certain that it wont have an advantage over removing it with apt-get?
[12:10] <darksoul> Does gentoo have apt-get commands?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i dont know try it?
[12:10] <nickrud> mooo
[12:10] <linkd> darksoul: no it has emerge.. which is different
[12:10] <mustermann> are the captive drivers pretty safe/stable for ntfs r/w access?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> darksoul, gentoo uses emerge i think
[12:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: too late if I try it and it breaks :P
[12:11] <linkd> darksoul: apt-get is a debian thing
[12:11] <gfish> lightbright, thanks it worked
[12:11] <LjL> lightbright: because it won't know which packages were installed automatically and which ones were installed manually
[12:11] <lightbright> gfish: you are welcome :)
[12:11] <erUSUL> lightbright, i've already answered you. You can not rm anything that you didn't created yourself. Things under tmp are deleted at shutdown
[12:11] <Stormx2> tritium: OK dude, how do I find where it is without a dpkg command, that possible?
[12:11] <darksoul> whats so much better with gentoo anyway... i always seemed to like it but could never get it installed.. anyway whats better on it
[12:11] <lightbright> erUSUL: ah ok thanks!  sorry missed your message
[12:11] <tritium> Stormx2, synaptic can list them too
[12:11] <Stormx2> tritium: Actually, nevermind
[12:11] <darksoul> NoUse: still here eh
[12:11] <Stormx2> tritium: Thanks very much ;-)
[12:12] <tritium> sure :)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> darksoul,  its not so much better than anything its just people perfer it to other distros
[12:12] <darksoul> anyone know what gentoo can do that ubuntu cant do...
[12:12] <gnomefreak> darksoul,  drive you to drink
[12:12] <linkd> darksoul: emerge
[12:12] <linkd> gnomefreak: haha
[12:12] <darksoul> linkd: wtf is emerge anyway
[12:13] <robotgeek> darksoul: ubuntu means, can't use gentoo
[12:13] <gnomefreak> :) well it will
[12:13] <tritium> nevertheless, you can build from source on ubuntu if you so desire
[12:13] <gnomefreak> darksoul,  wanna know about gentoo from gentoo users try #gentoo
[12:13] <xenuhn> hello
[12:13] <xenuhn> need help with fstab
[12:13] <erUSUL> darksoul, the gentoo apt with the diference that it compiles things from source
[12:13] <navarone> gnomefreak> any idea why channel user list is not showing in xchat? Has it been disables somehow or has my theme experiment somehow gone awry? :/
[12:14] <tritium> erUSUL, you can do the same with apt-get
[12:14] <holycow> man oh man
[12:14] <mustermann> anyone using the captive drivers for ntfs?
[12:14] <holycow> looking at some of the stuff running
[12:14] <holycow> gnome-cups-icon uses 57 mb of ram here
[12:14] <holycow> heh
[12:14] <gnomefreak> navarone,  dont know what channel user list?
[12:14] <SCMark> does anyone know how to install mythtv correctly on an ubuntu box?  I've got a hauppauge 350.
[12:14] <xenuhn> have a fat32-partition and want write-rights at startup
[12:14] <erUSUL> trappist, yes but it is not the default
[12:14] <navarone> gnome are you using cli irc client?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> the room list on right hand side?
[12:15] <holycow> the clock-applet uses 20 mb of ram
[12:15] <holycow> wow
[12:15] <NoUse> mustermann I've heard they don't work with ubuntu
[12:15] <navarone> gnome> yes...i don't have it
[12:15] <gnomefreak> navarone, right now im on x-chat 2.6
[12:15] <pepsi> holycow, doesnt mean its actually active
[12:15] <NoUse> !captive
[12:15] <ubotu> I guess captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[12:15] <protok0l> i need help, my sound stopped after an updrade
[12:15] <navarone> gnome> I'm on 2.4.4...but it never disappeared before
[12:15] <holycow> pepsi, *nod* perhaps i am overlooking something, but that doesn't exactly scream out 'lean'
[12:16] <mustermann> well that's a crying shame.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> navarone,  are you talking about the room list on the right hand side of this room?
[12:16] <navarone> gnome> yes...the one you can right click names
[12:16] <tritium> navarone, perhaps you accidentally removed it
[12:16] <navarone> how?
[12:16] <erUSUL> protok0l, have you checked the mixer settings??
[12:16] <tritium> user interaction of some kind
[12:17] <gnomefreak> try expanding the right side of the chat window
[12:17] <x3g5> /quit
[12:17] <waseem> hi, does anyone here know how to configure a wireless connection so that i dont have to continually type in commands everytime i reboot my computer to connect?
[12:17] <protok0l> erUSUL: yes, its all on and turned up
[12:17] <navarone> gnome> window is maxxed
[12:17] <berkes> a pity, it seems the PLF repos are offline.
[12:17] <protok0l> erUSUL: and i reloaded alsa, it made my speakers "click"
[12:17] <tritium> waseem, is it configured for auto in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:17] <snowblink> hi - trying to get 5.10 live CD for Mac to run on an iMac G5. Anyone had any success?
[12:17] <berkes> does anyone know where to get an mplayer repository?
[12:18] <holycow> waseem, just use the system/admin/networking gui
[12:18] <nickrud> navarone, grap the scratchy looking thing on the right side with your mouse, and pull it to the left
[12:18] <tritium> snowblink, it will not work yet on the iMac G5.  Wait for dapper.
[12:18] <snowblink> tritium: okay. Cheers.
[12:18] <holycow> waseem, you can also install wifi-radar that will let you scan for available networks and join manually and set that link up for you
[12:18] <navarone> nickrud> the window is maximized as is it
[12:18] <erUSUL> protok0l,  try aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav
[12:19] <erUSUL> !tell berkes about repos
[12:19] <zephyrus> hey, has anyone been able to install an activex plugin for their firefox?
[12:19] <nickrud> navarone, you can resize the userlist pane till it disappears; you can bring it back by pulling on the vertical bar, and the horizontal lines in the center on the right is a visual aid
[12:19] <gnomefreak> navarone, make you screen smaller and than drag the right side of window
[12:20] <gnomefreak> left side if using gnome x-chat
[12:20] <erUSUL> zenrox, activex in linux? a no way afaik
[12:21] <Juhaz> thank god
[12:21] <Stormx2> erUSUL: Well I got ActiveX working
[12:21] <protok0l> erUSUL: no sound, ne errors either
[12:21] <Stormx2> zephyrus: ActiveX is possible in wine'd IE and also wine'd FireFox
[12:21] <navarone> tried dragging from left but no go. I also went back to basic Human them to see if that helped...nothing
[12:21] <zephyrus> erUSUL: i saw a plugin offered by crossover but it looked kind of expensive
[12:21] <erUSUL> Stormx2, the i do not know too far i'm afraid ;)
[12:21] <erUSUL> then*
[12:22] <gnomefreak> navarone, drag the right side to the right
[12:22] <zephyrus> Stormx2: thanks, I'll look into it
[12:22] <Stormx2> zephyrus: Install wine, then get the sidenet wine config script. Install IE6, and you have it
[12:22] <Stormx2> zephyrus: MS have also released a plugin for gecko-like browsers to enable activeX
[12:22] <Stormx2> zephyrus: But mind, it is NO WHERE NEAR perfect
[12:23] <eatnumber1> how do I get synaptic to download an older version of a file?
[12:23] <navarone> okay...got ti...thanks...thought I was going nuts...:)...again
[12:23] <erUSUL> protok0l, so the sound plays just fine but you can not hear anything? it's weird.
[12:23] <eatnumber1> whenever I set force version, it switches to the version, then switches bak
[12:23] <gar-> robotgeek, thanks it work perfect =) everything
[12:23] <erUSUL> !sound
[12:24] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:24] <gnomefreak> navarone, click on settings than click prefferences than go down and click on user list tell me what is checked
[12:24] <robotgeek> gar-: also try wifiradar
[12:24] <seth_slackware> !sound
[12:24] <protok0l> erUSUL: it was since i recent kernel update
[12:24] <protok0l> stable kernel
[12:24] <navarone> gnome> tis okay...got it sorted
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ok navarone
[12:24] <gar-> robotgeek,  where i can get that
[12:25] <navarone> gnome> almost had kernel panic...;)
[12:25] <seth_slackware> is ubotu a bot?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ok bb later time to go do other stuff
[12:25] <devint_> ahem
[12:25] <berkes> erUSUL: that did not help me find mplayer, unfortunately
[12:25] <dr_willis> uBOTu
[12:25] <robotgeek> gar-: apt cache
[12:25] <gar-> robotgeek, do synaptic have it?
[12:25] <seth_slackware> he PMs me!
[12:25] <dr_willis>  :) yes
[12:25] <robotgeek> gar-: it should
[12:25] <dr_willis> he likes you
[12:25] <zephyrus> Stormx2: well, it's a good start at least.  Thanks for your help
[12:25] <Stormx2> zephyrus: I was told it was impossible too ;-)
[12:26] <gar-> robotgeek, nop i dont have it
[12:26] <erUSUL> protok0l, run aplay -l
[12:26] <mwe> heh
[12:26] <robotgeek> gar-: enable universe, and install wifi-radar
[12:26] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gar- about repos
[12:27] <erUSUL> berkes, mplayer is in multiverse so it should have help you...
[12:27] <gar-> robotgeek, done =)
[12:27] <berkes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto is what I found, but its all hoary stuff
[12:27] <gar-> robotgeek, i have already unverse
[12:27] <Stormx2> berkes; Should work for breezy, then ;-)
[12:28] <davethewave> howdy howdy howdy
[12:28] <robotgeek> gar-: did you run apt-get update?
[12:28] <gar-> yep
[12:29] <mwe> isn't mplayer in multiverse?
[12:29] <berkes> Genegeerd http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-extras/multiverse Packages, which, in EN means like "ignored ..... "
[12:29] <Stormx2> just use BMP, problem solved ;-)
[12:29] <berkes> bmp?
[12:29] <djm62> What meta-format does my menu.lst file need to be in for Ubuntu to auto-update the kernel that boots?
[12:29] <simonvallore> anyone have apache installed or can help me out ?
[12:29] <popey> i have apache installed on ubuntu
[12:30] <atrophic> likewise, go ahead and ask your question
[12:30] <simonvallore> popey can you host the .confs so i can download them
[12:30] <djm62> (ich habe lovely bootsplash now, but why didn't I have it before)
[12:30] <davethewave> 60Hz gives me a head-ache... is there a way to have the option for 75Hz? it isn't in my "system -> Preferences ->screen resolution" it won't let me have anything but 60
[12:30] <popey> uhm, no
[12:30] <popey> sorry
[12:30] <davethewave> dang
[12:30] <simonvallore> why ?
[12:30] <atrophic> what's wrong with the default configs?
[12:30] <simonvallore> i need them please help me
[12:30] <popey> tell us your problem
[12:30] <simonvallore> its not that hard
[12:30] <erUSUL> !tell davethewave about fixres
[12:30] <popey> I know how to do it, I don't want to.
[12:30] <gar-> robotgeek, i installing it =)
[12:30] <robotgeek> gar-: cool
[12:31] <simonvallore> well when i try to reinstall apache it wont replace the frick .confs that i rm -rf'ed
[12:31] <atrophic> our configs have details about our own set up, we'd be glad to help you with yours though
[12:31] <simonvallore> popey ill teach you
[12:31] <erUSUL> berkes, language please...
[12:31] <Stormx2> berkes: Blasphamy!
[12:31] <berkes> djm62: right :) np
[12:31] <ErgoSum> nickrud, i installed the flash plugin like the wiki said but it doesnt appeared in firefox about:plugins
[12:31] <popey> no simonvallore, dont bother, I said, I know how to, I don't want to.
[12:31] <simonvallore> lol i read wrong popey
[12:32] <berkes> sorry for the slip of the tongue :)
[12:32] <Ophiocus> is there a way to check and flag bad sectors in a drive prior to installation with the ubuntu cd?
[12:32] <libben> linkd: when i boot a windowsxp sp2 cd, it prompt for password when im in recover mode, it prompts for administration password. anyone knows the default one? cause i never sat a administrator password in my installs
[12:32] <djm62> simonvallore: shurely you want pastebin?
[12:32] <Stormx2> berkes: Or slip of the finger, as the case may be ;-)
[12:32] <ErgoSum> libben, default is blank
[12:32] <libben> doh =)
[12:32] <libben> brb =)
[12:32] <simonvallore> wtf ? djm62 ?
[12:32] <robotgeek> simonvallore: sudo aptitude purge apache2 && sudo aptitude install apache2
[12:32] <linkd> heh
[12:32] <nickrud> ErgoSum, try copying the plugin from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin (just a guess)
[12:32] <berkes> but indeed, it is considered blasphemy, yet mandriva/suse/etc all manage to ship cds with nvidia, real codecs java, winmodems and so on
[12:33] <mwe> berkes: the free sofware foundation and richard stallman will haunt your dreams
[12:33] <djm62> berkes: it's not blasphemous, it's just not the ubuntu way
[12:33] <berkes> i really really would not mind paying some bucks for that
[12:33] <berkes> and i think stallman is a hippie :)
[12:33] <nickrud> berkes, you pay, and they pay for licenses for nearly all that I would think
[12:33] <ErgoSum> nickrud, the thing ois that the plugins is in mozilla/plugin dir :s
[12:33] <djm62> berkes: you have that option...suse is a good paid-for distro if you like that kind of thing
[12:33] <nickrud> ErgoSum, you tried mozilla?
[12:34] <ErgoSum> i mean mozilla firefox
[12:34] <linkd> i dont mind the trouble of installing support myself. its not too hard. not with ubuntu
[12:34] <erUSUL> berkes, anathema... ;)
[12:34] <berkes> djm62: i chose ubuntu for its good working system, it being apt/debian and all,
[12:34] <berkes> but i surely would embrace a distro that would Just Work
[12:34] <nickrud> ErgoSum, ok. Well, I think it's time to say something about amd64 and gplflash. I've been told it works on PPC, though.
[12:34] <ErgoSum> oh sorry
[12:35] <berkes> whether that is a Stallmanism or not, as long as it works, i beleive ittl reach far more ppl.
[12:35] <ErgoSum> it was on moz plugin dir not in firefox plugin dir
[12:35] <atrophic> berkes, but that takes out all the fun ;)
[12:35] <ErgoSum> let me cp it :P
[12:35] <darksoul> whats that thing called
[12:35] <djm62> berkes: it's partly a matter of hardware choice, but the last time I used a non-debiish system, the package management had surpassed RH7 style rpm
[12:35] <darksoul> gnome-burner?
[12:36] <nickrud> gnome-baker
[12:36] <simonvallore> robotgeek,  much <3 man thanks alot
[12:36] <erUSUL> darksoul, gnome-baker
[12:36] <darksoul> ah thanks
[12:36] <berkes> ive been plugging loads of CDs with friends and all, most of wich gave em back with the message it sucked cause it coulndt even play FooBar media
[12:36] <robotgeek> simonvallore: np
[12:36] <erUSUL> !gnome-baker
[12:36] <ubotu> erUSUL: I give up, what is it?
[12:36] <idiot> I try apt-get install synce and it doesn't find anything, anywhere I can get the *.debs and such?
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-baker
[12:36] <darksoul> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 25 04:29:35 2005
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-baker
[12:36] <darksoul> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 25 04:29:35 2005
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$
[12:36] <TokenBad> if I want to install something but have it overwrite a previous install..how do I do that?
[12:36] <nickrud> !info gnomebaker
[12:36] <berkes> djm62: it surely has, it surpassed not only in hardware support all other linux distros also in ease of use.
[12:36] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 359 kB, Installed size: 1240 kB
[12:36] <erUSUL> darksoul, please do not paste here. see topic
[12:36] <darksoul> did i miss somthing
[12:37] <robotgeek> darksoul: your clock is wrong
[12:37] <berkes> I am merely contemplating about the next step in linuxland :)
[12:37] <darksoul> robotgeek: sorry. clocks 100% right
[12:37] <idiot> I try apt-get install synce and it doesn't find anything, anywhere I can get the *.debs and such?
[12:37] <atrophic> darksoul, is the time zone set properly as well?
[12:37] <berkes> which would be a cdrom that Just Worked with Everything
[12:37] <atrophic> try synchronizing the clock
[12:38] <berkes> and not Just With Good Free Stuff :)
[12:38] <berkes> anyway, in the mean time, i can still not watch the last episode of channel frederator......
[12:39] <protok0l> erUSUL: aplay -l lists 2 hardware devices, i know one doesnt work
[12:39] <protok0l> not sure which
[12:40] <erUSUL> protok0l, maybe know they are configured in reverse order so your apps are playing in the wrong one?
[12:40] <erUSUL> now*
[12:41] <djm62> berkes: in the absolute long run, ABI, API, AOB will stabilise, and co-operation between non-free and free won't be as hard
[12:41] <protok0l> erUSUL: i change them manually in XMMS and it still doesnt play. the equalizer moves normally and no errors
[12:41] <berkes> djm62: what are those TLAs?
[12:41] <djm62> IMHO
[12:42] <djm62> berkes: Application Binary Interface (for making binary plugins/modules), Application Programming Interface (for gluing with source code available), and Any Other Business
[12:43] <MachineScrew> !info seahorse
[12:43] <erUSUL> protok0l, then i'm lost the cards get recognized, proper drivers loaded and no errors are shown...
[12:43] <ubotu> seahorse: (A Gnome front end for GnuPG), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 860 kB, Installed size: 3064 kB
[12:43] <berkes> ah, okay.
[12:43] <ErgoSum> nickrud, well some flash load but others crach my FF :(
[12:43] <djm62> berkes: right now, the linux kernel is a moving target for closed source drivers, but it has to slow down eventually
[12:43] <berkes> but, again: it seems (my) multiverse repositories are broken, anyone here to confirm that?
[12:43] <Meaulnes> anyone use vpnc to connect to a cisco vpn? or anyone have any experience getting the cisco vpn client working?
[12:44] <gnuyen> is there a way to get serpentine to work with mp3s?
[12:44] <Jestre> Meaulnes: I'm using the Cisco client
[12:44] <gnuyen> i have gstreamer0.8 installed
[12:44] <nickrud> ErgoSum, the last option seems to be setting up a chroot where you can run 32bit stuff on your 64; there are instructions floating around the net. Me personally, I keep flash disabled on my 32 ;)
[12:44] <erUSUL> djm62, kernel developers are against stable drivers apis with all their heart
[12:44] <gnuyen> gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:45] <djm62> erUSUL: you mean now, or will all future developers be against them? ;)
[12:45] <berkes> djm62: ATM the moving kernel is not the main issue. I mean, mandrake came with a CD full of closed binary rpms, as long as you bought it, you could buy it for like $10 already. The main issue was that they simply were not allowed to distributre it for Free (as in freedom)
[12:45] <Meaulnes> Jestre: I have gotten the thing working b4 in k/ubuntu ... but for some reason this time it is giving me problem .... during the install it tells me that it cannot make cisco_ipsec.ko
[12:45] <erUSUL> djm62, now and in the future
[12:45] <berkes> djm62: which is why devian/ubuntu chose not to get involved in that at all.
[12:45] <_native_> OAMP 0wnz
[12:46] <oxez> Hi budies
[12:46] <Screevo> Anyone have any success getting nForce 410 boards to work right in 5.10 64Bit?
[12:46] <Meaulnes> Jestre: I have installed the linux-source and linux-headers, as well ass gcc-3.4 and build-essential ....
[12:46] <djm62> erUSUL: I defer to your time travelling skillz, sir
[12:46] <_native_> oxez; your not buddy. ;p
[12:46] <Jestre> Meaulnes: Hmmm... built fine for me on breezy, but I had to patch it for Fedora (since they're using a newer kernel)
[12:46] <nasimuto> Could anyone send me their Gnome's Ubuntu Start button (that nice round ubuntu logo)? - I'd like to put it to my xfce
[12:46] <davethewave> Hello, I tried the site someone gave me for fixres, but now x wont run (I'm in bitchx)
[12:46] <Jestre> Meaulnes: That's all I've got
[12:46] <ErgoSum> any1 knows how to mount a windows partition and dont have problems with character encording?
[12:46] <oxez> _native_, think outside the ()s
[12:46] <oxez> :P
[12:47] <Meaulnes> Jestre: I am running breezy on this thing and I do not recall any problem with breezy before ...
[12:47] <nickrud> davethewave, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , that will get you back where you started
[12:47] <_native_> lol
[12:47] <Meaulnes> argh
[12:47] <_native_> ergh
[12:47] <_native_> frgh
[12:47] <davethewave> ok thanks :D
[12:48] <DK_II> anyone know why I keep getting a red line go across the screen in XChat??
[12:48] <Screevo> Question: If I have an Athlon 64, can I straight install the 32 bit version?
[12:48] <Screevo> To get better driver support, etc?
[12:48] <atrophic> DK_II, because somebody says your name on that line
[12:48] <nickrud> Screevo, yes, for better driver support :)
[12:48] <oxez> Anyone know if OO2 final is in the backports?
[12:49] <Screevo> Will the nForce 410 Just Work (tm) with the 32bit?
[12:49] <Ophiocus> is there a way to check and flag bad sectors in a drive prior to installation with the ubuntu cd?
[12:49] <Screevo> This 64 bit install, I cant get the sound to detect at all.
[12:49] <DK_II> no I know that atrophic its not a sentence its just a plain red line
[12:49] <agtnz> nasimuto: Take a look here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork?highlight=%28artwork%29 Theres a small ico file linked at the end.
[12:49] <nasimuto> agtnz: thanks
[12:49] <atrophic> DK_II, then no, I have no idea. sorry :/
[12:49] <pepsi> DK its the "marker line"
[12:50] <DK_II> oh right first time I see that is it new?
[12:50] <Meaulnes> DK_II: it is a setting somewhere in preferences, it marks something ... took me forever to figure out how to get rid of it the last time I used XChat ...
[12:50] <pepsi> DK_II, right
[12:50] <agtnz> nasimuto: np, i had the same idea :P
[12:50] <Screevo> Anyone know about this nForce 410 chipset? The forums are next to useless for me
[12:50] <DK_II> ok thanks guys I'll have a look in the settings
[12:50] <nasimuto> agtnz: its too small :(
[12:51] <agtnz> nasimuto: Mmm it was ok for my panel size - not sure where to get a bigger one from
[12:51] <DK_II> ah yes show marker line
[12:51] <nasimuto> agtnz: ok, ill try this one. But the gnome one was nice and smooth + huge
[12:51] <Screevo> nForce 410 Sound in 5.10 64 bit. Anyone have any idea?
[12:52] <davethewave> it loaded edubuntu lol
[12:52] <jason> i'm trying to install kde on ubuntu but its not working
[12:52] <Phoul> Would somone help me find some thems and stuff?
[12:53] <erUSUL> djm62, read this from a important kernel developer http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/11/03/
[12:54] <NoUse> !tell Phoul about themes
[12:54] <NoUse> Phoul ubotu sent you some links
[12:54] <nickrud> Screevo, you might find this interesting: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791
[12:54] <davethewave> Jason, there is Kubuntu if you prefer Kde
[12:54] <djm62> erUSUL: I know the current position...I have come to expect linux to outlast the authors
[12:54] <davethewave> not sure how to get them both on the same OS, I know it's possible... i think ;)
[12:54] <oxez> Is it okay to install OO2 final from the official installer from openoffice.org?
[12:55] <oxez> I'll remove the current one in synaptic
[12:55] <Phoul> I noticed
[12:55] <DK_II> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get KDE as well
[12:55] <rave_> apt-get install kde
[12:55] <Phoul> I have kde...
[12:55] <rave_> will be enough
[12:55] <erUSUL> djm62, and this from Linus himself http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5056
[12:55] <Phoul> 0_o
[12:55] <Phoul> i guess you aient talkin to me
[12:55] <Phoul> :P
[12:56] <davethewave> I have to reboot, fixres made X un-startable.. got that fixed but now it loads edubuntu desktop :O
[12:57] <jason> how do i install kde's dependencies
[12:57] <djm62> erUSUL: this still doesn't amount to clairvoyance...in time, things will change.  my prediction is less categorical than yours
[12:57] <nickrud> jason, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gets you kde
[12:58] <erUSUL> djm62, the quote from Linus is about legal issues binary only drivers in linux are alegal (if not ilegal)
[12:58] <davethewave> how come bitchx auto-ignores NickServ for flooding when I ask it for help
[12:58] <jason> can not find kubuntu-desktop package
[12:59] <_native_> tor rocks!
[12:59] <benguin> hi there
[12:59] <davethewave> did you try kde in place of kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <DK_II> you need to unmark some lines in sources.list (#)
[12:59] <_native_> privoxy rocks!
[12:59] <nickrud> jason, are you connected to the net?
[12:59] <benguin> anyone using a HP zx5000 laptop?
[12:59] <davethewave> nickrud... rofl
[12:59] <davethewave> how would he be on irc ;)
[12:59] <LjL> erUSUL: nice guy, that torvalds
[12:59] <nickrud> windows
[12:59] <davethewave> oh i see
[12:59] <jason> how is that done
[01:00] <atrophic> argh, the mail finally turned up my miniPCI wireless card that should just work with ubuntu. But I just realized I don't have a screwdriver small enough to open up the laptop :/
[01:00] <DK_II> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <nickrud> Spent a long time going round and round on that one once :)
[01:00] <LjL> kubuntu-desktop is in main, if his apt-get cannot find it, there's something very wrong
[01:00] <LjL> or, rather, he's never apt-get update'd at all
[01:01] <djm62> erUSUL: how long is your long run? seriously, I'm not speculating out of ignorance: companies want this.  they have money, it will happen one way or another.  Also there will be more stability in the kernel over time, unless they intentionally break compatibility to stop interactions they don't like (remind you of anyone?)
[01:01] <tjj> seeking knowledge on partman recipes during install
[01:01] <LjL> jason: type "sudo apt-get update; sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and see if that works
[01:01] <erUSUL> LjL, well without him (kernel) and stallman (gcc) (among others) you will not be using GNU/Linux systems
[01:02] <LjL> erUSUL: i *would* not, not i *will* not... it's GPL, i can keep using it without them :)
[01:02] <LjL> erUSUL: not that i would *like* that to happen
[01:02] <tjj> I can't seem to get it to create var and tmp partitions
[01:03] <erUSUL> djm62, the gpl is desgned precisaly to keep the things as they are you can turn a BSD into comercial crap but you can not turn the linux kernel into windows
[01:03] <djm62> erUSUL: wtf? I wasn't implying that, or anything like that
[01:03] <djm62> erUSUL: this isn't an ideological thing
[01:03] <tjj> anyone here messed with partman recipes
[01:03] <ErgoSum> any1 knows how to mount a windows partition and dont have problems with character encording?
[01:04] <dr_willis> ErgoSum,  what language you using as your main one?
[01:04] <djm62> erUSUL: although it is an #ubuntu-offtopic thing, come to think of it
[01:04] <Moco> I have been trying to get Super Tux to work for quite some time now. It has compiled successfully, but it says that it can't load the png file black-letters.png.
[01:04] <Moco> I have all the PNG libraries (including the SDL perl PNG library) but it still won't work..
[01:05] <jason> no match
[01:05] <Moco> I have also tried installing it via synaptic pkg manger, but that doesn't work either..
[01:05] <ericz> i',m having a problem with my soundcard... it seems to well... not exist?
[01:05] <erUSUL> djm62, i read lkml sometimes and people there are "faighting" against companies persuing stable APIS
[01:05] <tjj> any one messed with partman recipes
[01:06] <ericz> can anyone help me out, ubuntu is basically telling me my soundcard is non-existant... it worked this morning
[01:06] <djm62> erUSUL: -offtopic if you want to discuss forward (bad to do this in the support channel)
[01:06] <dbyte> does anyone have a link for an up to date breezy sources.list?
[01:06] <cody> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup ndiswrapper on my laptop.  The wiki said after I install my inf file and modprobe ndiswarpper, I can setup my Wlan device under Desktop->Administration->Networking.  But I can't figure out how to do shit with that little util.
[01:07] <erUSUL> djm62, you are right. my bad
[01:07] <atrophic> cody, does ndiswrapper say your hardware is present?
[01:07] <cody> atrophic: Yes.
[01:08] <ericz> my soundcard like doesn't exist according to ubuntu
[01:08] <atrophic> and it shows up in the networking admin?
[01:08] <ericz> it worked perfect earlier today
[01:08] <ericz> can someone help me
[01:08] <cody> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[01:08] <cody> atrophic: No, it doesn't show up in the networking admin.
[01:09] <atrophic> cody, I had the same problem, a restart made it show up. While I'm sure there's a way to make it show up without restarting, I can't tell you what it is ;)
[01:09] <cody> Restarting now.
[01:09] <cody> atrophic: I guess it's been awhile since I used Windows, because I'm not used to having to restart after installing something anymore. :)
[01:10] <atrophic> cody, like I said, I'm sure it's not required, I just haven't used linux for long enough to figure it out ;)
[01:10] <jason> how do i add a new source to sources.list
[01:10] <cody> :)
[01:10] <libben> linkd, now im back from recovery mode, but i couldent get windows to boot. i typed fixmbr after i got into recovery and it fixed something. so now grub wont load anymore. so what do i do now to install grub again so i can get it working with my linux disks_
[01:10] <atrophic> jason, uncomment the source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <_native_> realplayer has serious integration issues under ubuntu.
[01:11] <atrophic> jason, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" will give you an editor
[01:11] <linkd> libben: thats correct
[01:11] <Toran> is there a way I can play some of the games on candystand.com in ubuntu/linux?
[01:11] <linkd> oh wait
[01:11] <linkd> libben: windows still isnt loading/
[01:11] <opnsrc> How do I add a computer icon to the desktop
[01:11] <opnsrc> I have one on one of my logins but not my root and I forgot
[01:12] <Moco> Have you tried running chkdsk from something like BartPE linkd?
[01:12] <libben> nope. it only jumps to NTDLR is missing. earlier i had grub and then i hit enter on windows entry and got that message
[01:12] <orbx> to make Torrent downloads faster i heard you have to open up ports, does anyone know what port setting i would open for BitTorrent
[01:12] <linkd> libben: and linux is on a different drive to windows?
[01:12] <atrophic> opnsrc, right-click and select create launcher?
[01:12] <libben> linkd, yes
[01:12] <linkd> hmm
[01:12] <opnsrc> no
[01:12] <opnsrc> I mean the one that starts on
[01:12] <atrophic> opnsrc, what's the computer icon supposed to do?
[01:13] <opnsrc> it starts with computer
[01:13] <Moco> libben: This has happened to me before and chkdsk from bartPE worked. Takes a while though..
[01:13] <libben> hda and hdb. but i think i planted the linux MBR onto hda
[01:13] <opnsrc> and has the drives listed
[01:13] <cody> atrophic: Hmm, weird.  I'm still not seeing any new devices in my Network settings dialog.
[01:13] <opnsrc> Cd rom, Floppy, FileSystem
[01:13] <nasimuto> is there a volume control manager for IceWM, that can sit neatly in tray and be & act like windows xp/98 volume control ?
[01:13] <ericz> someone help me out, what can i do to get linux to detect/recognize my soundcard.... sound wont work at all and it did fine earlier
[01:13] <jason> what one do i uncomment on?
[01:13] <libben> 2.6.10-4-386
[01:13] <oxez> ericz: what's your soundcard exactly?
[01:14] <libben> pretty old livecd
[01:14] <libben> hooray one
[01:14] <opnsrc> like the one under places/computer
[01:14] <ericz> not entirely sure, but it worked perfect this morning
[01:14] <opnsrc> view your computer storage
[01:14] <ericz> i rebooted and it seems to not work
[01:14] <oxez> ericz: first make sure the modules are properly loaded with lsmod | grep snd
[01:14] <atrophic> cody, does it show up in ifconfig/iwconfig?
[01:14] <Locke> are the US archives open yet?
[01:14] <linkd> libben: im not sure how to repair that. however, this forum thread seems to have a solution u might try http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=10606
[01:14] <ericz> System > Preferences > Sound shows that i have
[01:14] <ericz> no soundcard
[01:15] <cody> atrophic: No.
[01:15] <Moco> I have been trying to get Super Tux to work for quite some time now. It has compiled successfully, but it says that it can't load the png file black-letters.png.
[01:15] <libben> linkd, but if i would want to get to grub menu again? i just type sudo grub-install
[01:15] <Moco> I have all the PNG libraries (including the SDL perl PNG library) but it still won't work..
[01:15] <opnsrc> I know it's under System tools>configuration editor somewhere
[01:15] <linkd> libben: thats pretty much correct yes.
[01:16] <ericz> ubuntu's telling me i dont have a soundcard,
[01:16] <linkd> libben: well.. grub-install /dev/hdX where X is ur harddrive
[01:16] <ericz> what can i do?
[01:16] <cody> atrophic: Did you have to manually add it to /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:16] <atrophic> cody, did you modprobe ndiswrapper and add ndiswrapper to etc/modules?
[01:16] <atrophic> cody, no, I didn't
[01:17] <Ophiocus> how can i make firefox use xmms to open shoutcast playlists?
[01:17] <atrophic> cody, and does "ndiswrapper -l" show the driver installed and hardware present as well?
[01:17] <cody> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[01:18] <pbransford> How can I go about finding libdvdcss and other such... questionable... media stuff?
[01:18] <cody> If I run iwconfig, it lists lo, eth0, and sit0.
[01:18] <pbransford> ?
[01:18] <cody> atrophic: And all three say no wireless extensions.
[01:18] <pbransford> did you do this:
[01:18] <pbransford> depmod -a
[01:18] <ericz> what can i do... ubuntu keeps telling me i have no soundcard
[01:18] <opnsrc> anyone know
[01:18] <ericz> and it work
[01:18] <pbransford> after installing ndiswrapper?
[01:18] <opnsrc> ?
[01:18] <ericz> this morning
[01:18] <nickrud> opnsrc, you mean /apps/nautilus/desktop , I think
[01:19] <pbransford> and make sure you modprobe ndiswrapper as well...
[01:19] <djm62> ericz: what has changed since this morning?
[01:19] <pbransford> then it SHOULD show up
[01:19] <opnsrc> the same place that lets you add the trashcan
[01:19] <ericz> nothing that i know of
[01:19] <ericz> i rebooted
[01:19] <ericz> earlier
[01:19] <cody> pbransford: I just ran depmod -a now, and it's already modprobe'd.
[01:19] <opnsrc> yeah that
[01:19] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:19] <ericz> is there a way to get ubuntu to like
[01:19] <ericz> search for a soundcard
[01:19] <ericz> or something
[01:19] <pbransford> cody, odd. I use ndiswrapper with the same hardware, no issues here
[01:19] <ericz> make it re-detect stuff
[01:20] <pbransford> or at least the same driver
[01:20] <pbransford> bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys right?
[01:20] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:20] <cody> pbransford: This is my first time to ever use any wireless stuff.
[01:20] <cody> pbransford: Yeah.
[01:20] <djm62> ericz: nothing at all has changed? and you know for sure it isn't that the volume is muted?
[01:20] <cody> pbransford: Did you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces manually or anything?
[01:20] <pbransford> nope
[01:20] <cody> feh
[01:20] <ericz> because
[01:20] <cody> Why won't it show up?
[01:20] <pbransford> i didnt even have ubuntu installed all the way and i had it working
[01:20] <ericz> system > preferences > sound
[01:21] <ericz> shows me
[01:21] <ericz> as not having a soundcard
[01:21] <ericz> and i do!
[01:21] <Locke> where can i get XMMS?
[01:21] <pbransford> synaptics
[01:21] <pbransford> or apt-get install xmms
[01:21] <Locke> tried that
[01:21] <Locke> it said it's not available
[01:21] <cody> I'm going to try to restart one more time. :)
[01:22] <pbransford> where can i find libdvdcss? i dont care about patents.
[01:22] <nickrud> !repos
[01:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:22] <pbransford> or dmca...
[01:22] <cody> pbransford: Hmm.. I am using amd64, and I supposedly downloaded the amd64 drivers.
[01:22] <Moco> Paul Bransford, what you are asking to do with libdvdcss is illegal. You are being reported to authorities....  ;)
[01:22] <pbransford> never touched 64bit
[01:22] <InitMass> when trying to burn with k3b i get an error saying "Incorrectly encoded string (g??nget.JPG) encountered." the problem is that i can't search for that file with "find". how do i find this file among thousands of files??
[01:22] <linkd> pbransford: u can apt-get it
[01:22] <pbransford> Moco, then they can have fun getting through my non-us cyphers :P
[01:23] <pbransford> linkd, i need a repo that has it...
[01:23] <linkd> pbransford: just apt-cache search libdvdcss first. tell me if its got libdvdcss2 in there
[01:23] <linkd> or something similar
[01:23] <Moco> Lol. The DMCA is so stupid.
[01:23] <pbransford> linkd, nope
[01:23] <psusi> yes... it is
[01:24] <pbransford> want my apt source file?
[01:24] <linkd> throw it on a pastebin
[01:24] <pbransford> er... how :?
[01:24] <nickrud> InitMass, you should be able to search with g\?\?nget.JPG
[01:24] <psusi> pbransford, http://www.pastebin.com
[01:24] <linkd> http://rafb.net/paste/
[01:24] <Moco> or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:25] <pbransford> aaah! linkd, which one would you prefer?
[01:25] <linkd> so many to choose from
[01:25] <linkd> pbransford: it doesnt bother me
[01:25] <djm62> InitMass: locate nget.J ?
[01:25] <nickrud> oh, too simple ;P
[01:26] <pbransford> http://pastebin.com/438265
[01:26] <pbransford> i think...
[01:26] <_native_> dad; http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries#Accessibility..2A
[01:26] <InitMass> nick_, djm62 thank you. locate worked
[01:27] <pbransford> if i remember there was a wiki page with some french repo...
[01:27] <_native_> my dad RoCk$!
[01:27] <_native_> ;p
[01:28] <The_Libertarian> Any one here use giFT?
[01:28] <nasimuto> is there a volume control manager for IceWM, that can sit neatly in tray and be & act like windows xp/98 volume control ?
[01:28] <linkd> pbransford: this is mine http://pastebin.com/438267
[01:28] <rubem> hi there
[01:28] <gfish> ok ive done something stupid
[01:28] <rubem> which c\c++ ide do you use in ubuntu??
[01:28] <pbransford> booted win95?
[01:28] <gfish> no
[01:28] <linkd> pbransford: somewhere in mine is the lib u want.. just not sure where or how to find out
[01:28] <ClayG> What is a program that can convert an .mpg(already in dvd format a+v) into a dvd and structure it so as well
[01:29] <jason> can some one post there list file thay has gnome and kde installed
[01:29] <_native_> will ubuntu ever include fluxbox themes?, i hate grabin things elsewhere when i could just apt-get. :] 
[01:29] <gfish> i was installing knoquerer and accidently clicked cancel
[01:29] <cody> rubem: emacs
[01:29] <pbransford> linkd, you just have a bitish mirror thats all... same repos (supposedly)
[01:29] <gfish> but some stuff installed and some didnt
[01:29] <_native_> cody; Vi damn you !!
[01:29] <_native_> jk'
[01:29] <cody> heh
[01:29] <nalioth> gfish: so start the process again
[01:29] <gfish> just start it
[01:29] <linkd> pbransford: yea i know but for one time "gotta have it" download itll be alright
[01:30] <_native_> any one using privoxy with ubuntu?
[01:30] <ErgoSum> re
[01:30] <linkd> _native_: yup
[01:30] <nalioth> gfish: you are using synaptic/adept/apt-get , right?
[01:30] <pbransford> ill search for it on the wiki, though...
[01:30] <gfish> nalioth wont it make any difference if i started installing
[01:30] <linkd> pbransford: ok sure :)
[01:30] <gfish> nalioth, i used add aplications
[01:30] <ErgoSum> is it possible to set VLC as default video player?
[01:30] <pbransford> there was a page with info on that, mp3, windows codecs, mplayer, etc
[01:30] <linkd> ErgoSum: for what filetype?
[01:30] <ErgoSum> every video
[01:30] <_native_> linkd; how do i scrub information so that details about my system are not revealed to sites?
[01:30] <nalioth> gfish: then you are fine, just restart the process
[01:30] <linkd> pbransford: u mean restricted formats?
[01:31] <gfish> ok
[01:31] <nickrud> jason, http://pastebin.com/438268 both kde and ubuntu, also xubuntu
[01:31] <pbransford> aha!
[01:31] <pbransford> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28libdvdcss%29
[01:31] <pbransford> yes restricted formats
[01:31] <linkd> pbransford: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:32] <ErgoSum> i cant find the option inside VLC
[01:32] <linkd> _native_: i dunno without reading the privoxy manuals. have u already read that?
[01:32] <ErgoSum> maybe is a gnome option
[01:32] <gfish> nalioth, u saved my ass once again
[01:32] <mossy> i got problem with sound, it comes up /dev/snd : permission denied
[01:32] <mossy> or something
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mossy about sound
[01:32] <pepsi> if us.archive.ubuntu.com is down, can i use archive.ubuntu.com or is it just an alias to us.?
[01:33] <nalioth> mossy: your solution is on or linked from that page ubotu just sent you
[01:33] <nickrud> ErgoSum, you need to do that for each file type; right click a file, select properties, and use the open with tab to select your preferred app
[01:33] <pbransford> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[01:33] <pbransford> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[01:33] <linkd> ErgoSum: i dunno about that cuz there is alot of video formats.. even ones ubuntu doesnt know about. but u can set it for each individual one.. but im not sure how to do that with gnome.
[01:33] <pbransford> thats what i needed
[01:33] <Moco> I have been trying to get Super Tux to work for quite some time now. It has benn compiled successfully, but it says that it can't load the png file black-letters.png.
[01:33] <nalioth> pepsi: yes, use archive.blae
[01:33] <linkd> pbransford: does it work?
[01:33] <jay> HELP!!! Can't locate XML/RAI.pm in @INC  <--- how do i fix this?
[01:33] <ErgoSum> thanks nickrud  linkd :)
[01:33] <LjL> pepsi: it's an alias, as far as i can see. but you can still use the "it." mirrors or  the "fr." mirrors, or a lot of other national mirrors
[01:33] <gfish> nalioth, i installed it and dont like it
[01:33] <linkd> ErgoSum: np
[01:33] <linkd> :)
[01:34] <pbransford> yep
[01:34] <pepsi> how about ca.?
[01:34] <Locke> does anyone know of a good audio converter?
[01:34] <pbransford> it downloaded it and used apt to install
[01:34] <pbransford> succedded
[01:34] <pbransford> gota go
[01:34] <LjL> pepsi: yeah, that too
[01:34] <linkd> pbransford: bye
[01:34] <pbransford> thanks for the help linkd
[01:34] <erUSUL> jay, some background will help us help you
[01:35] <jay> i am trying to install the app located at --> tvtrss.sf.net
[01:35] <Locke> does anyone know of a good audio converter for converting mp3 files to .ogg?
[01:35] <erUSUL> Locke, soundconverter
[01:36] <LjL> Locke: that will make you lose quality noticeably, mind you
[01:36] <ErgoSum> any idea why the full screen in VLC is not a real full screen?
[01:36] <atrophic> how do I add something to the taskbar?
[01:36] <jay> erSUL where can i paste the whole error so u can see?
[01:36] <nasimuto> is there a volume control manager for Xfce, that can sit neatly in tray and be & act like windows xp/98 volume control ? (lol, i always mixup icewm and xfce :/ )
[01:36] <Amaranth> atrophic: right click on a blank area, choose add to panel
[01:36] <bur[n] er> nasimuto: there's a volume panel plugin
[01:37] <opnsrc> Ok, you know how you have those arrows at the bottem right and left of the screen
[01:37] <erUSUL> jay, see topic
[01:37] <opnsrc> on the menu
[01:37] <opnsrc> that hide the menu
[01:37] <opnsrc> how do you make it hide and show the menu faster
[01:37] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:37] <atrophic> Amaranth, will that run the applet or just give me a link to it?
[01:37] <Amaranth> opnsrc: you don't?
[01:37] <SoulPropagation> does anyone know how to install OpenCASCADE?
[01:37] <Amaranth> atrophic: err
[01:38] <opnsrc> I've seen other distributions that let you do that
[01:38] <Amaranth> atrophic: if you add an applet it'll run it, if you add a link to an application it'll give you a link
[01:38] <opnsrc> something to do with eyecandy for Redhat linux or something
[01:38] <atrophic> Amaranth, thanks
[01:38] <jay> erUSUL: done
[01:38] <erUSUL> jay post the url
[01:39] <jay> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5058
[01:39] <bn> hello
[01:40] <Daxie> hi
[01:40] <atrophic> nasimuto, right-click on the taskbar, click add to panel, scroll down to system & hardware, select Volume Control. Is that what you were looking for?
[01:40] <bn> I was wondering if anyone would know how to enable the Disk mounter applet, or the workspace switcher applet.
[01:41] <opnsrc> can't seem to find it
[01:41] <atrophic> bn, right click on panel, select add to panel, both are in there somewhere
[01:41] <nickrud> bn right click an open spot on the panel, and select add to panel.
[01:41] <erUSUL> jay you need to install some xml related perl package but i can not tell you wich :(
[01:41] <mossy> still got no sound
[01:41] <opnsrc> k thanks
[01:41] <mossy> :(
[01:41] <jay> i will install all of them :)
[01:41] <opnsrc> maybe Ubuntu doesn't have that
[01:42] <ErgoSum> any idea why the full screen in VLC is not a real full screen?
[01:42] <mossy> also i cant SU
[01:42] <mossy> root
[01:42] <nalioth> mossy: there is no root account
[01:42] <mossy> when runing adept
[01:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mossy about root
[01:42] <nalioth> mossy: use "kdesu adept"
[01:42] <djm62> ErgoSum: what are the symptoms?
[01:42] <robotgeek> mossy: did you add root user somehow?
[01:43] <mossy> no
[01:43] <mossy> it comes up Su retured an error
[01:43] <ErgoSum> djib, in "full screen" i can see the taskbar and the title menu
[01:43] <robotgeek> mossy: okay, then read the link which ubotu pm'ed you
[01:43] <nasimuto> atrophic: when i right-click on my xfce taskbar - then nothing happens. Taskbar is that bar where i cant see my active programs and trayicons, right ?
[01:43] <Locke> are ogg files still legal?
[01:43] <bn> How do you find the system & hardware, if it is not in the add to panel menu? I only have Applet, Application, Panel, and Special Button
[01:44] <_native_> Locke; why wouldnt they be?
[01:44] <jay> ugh
[01:44] <nalioth> Locke: ogg files will always be legal in format
[01:44] <Moco> Are they still legal?
[01:44] <jay> i really want this app to work
[01:44] <Locke> well, when they first came about, if you converted a mp3 file into ogg, you wouldn't be able to to get sued
[01:44] <Locke> but that was like... 2 years ago
[01:44] <djm62> ErgoSum: are you selecting full screen or maximising?
[01:44] <Moco> I am quite certain ogg's are still legal.
[01:45] <nalioth> Locke: that is not true. if you copy a new music album to ogg, you are illegal
[01:45] <_native_> Locke; its opensource shizzle man
[01:45] <nalioth> Locke: the format is open source and is not 'illegal' or patent encumbered
[01:45] <djm62> nalioth: depending on the country...
[01:45] <erUSUL> jay which app are you trying to compile?
[01:45] <ErgoSum> djm62, ful screen, cause it pops up a new windows but not a full screen window
[01:45] <jay> tvtrss.sf.net
[01:45] <djm62> ErgoSum: what wm are you using?
[01:45] <Locke> like i said, way back when it was a quick loophole, i didn't think it was the same anymore
[01:46] <ErgoSum> djm62, wm?
[01:46] <ErgoSum> window maker?
[01:46] <djm62> window manager
[01:46] <ErgoSum> gnome
[01:46] <SoulPropagation> does anyone know how to install OpenCASCADE?
[01:46] <Locke> how do i change the default for the program that files open up?
[01:47] <_native_> hey did you guys see this? http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/os/0,39024180,39237495,00.htm
[01:47] <nalioth> Locke: right click on them in nautilus and click 'properties'
[01:47] <ErgoSum> Locke, right click propeties - open with
[01:47] <mossy> mmmm
[01:47] <Locke> well, is there any way to change it to where i don't have to do that every time?
[01:47] <mossy> ok
[01:47] <ErgoSum> Locke, only once you have to do that
[01:47] <_native_> guess who got top review.... Ubuntu baby!! YEAH! ;] 
[01:47] <nalioth> Locke: yes, click th box "rmember this selection'
[01:47] <Locke> i don't see a box that says that
[01:47] <nickrud> Locke, you need to use the properties window - that's a permanent change
[01:48] <Locke> and i've had to do that every time i open a file
[01:48] <nickrud> Locke, the properties at the bottom of the right click menue
[01:48] <ErgoSum> djm62, any idea?
[01:48] <psusi> can anyone show me an example of using the -prune switch with find?  it keeps telling me paths must preceed expression no matter where I put it
[01:48] <Locke> k, got it
[01:48] <rubem> anyone know a good c\c++ ide for ubuntu?
[01:49] <djm62> ErgoSum: looks like a problem between vlc and the window manager (hints?).  doesn't happen on my machine
[01:49] <erUSUL> rubem, anjuta, kdevelop, (emacs ;))
[01:49] <ErgoSum> djm62, :S
[01:50] <erUSUL> rubem, vdk builder... etc
[01:50] <PsiDragon> Hello, Quick question: How can I install my dhcp using Ubuntu's installer from a CD ISO, from WITHIN a Debian System?
[01:51] <ColD_7> anyone know how to change the background color when the splash screen appear during the startup? (I don't mean changing the splash screen as i know how)
[01:51] <djm62> ErgoSum: I'll have a wee grep through my vlc config
[01:52] <ErgoSum> k
[01:52] <Ophiocus> PsiDragon, why not use synaptic or apt-get ?
[01:52] <NeoFax12> How do I remove the root password? I had to add it to use Automatix.
[01:53] <PsiDragon> Ophiocus could you give me the terminal entry for apt-get?
[01:53] <nalioth> how can NeoFax12 disable the root account?
[01:53] <djm62> ErgoSum: in ~/.vlc/vlcrc you could look at the video-deco line
[01:54] <djm62> ErgoSum: but I have no idea why yours isn't set by default the same way mine is
[01:54] <ErgoSum> let me see.
[01:55] <SoulPropagation> can anyone help me with installing opencascade?
[01:55] <erUSUL> NeoFax12, edit /etc/shadow and put a * in the second field of the root line
[01:55] <erUSUL> ??
[01:55] <PsiDragon> Ophiocus could you give me the terminal entry for apt-get?  I don't know how to find it
[01:55] <ErgoSum> djm62, #video-deco=1
[01:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell PsiDragon about apt-get
[01:56] <djm62> ErgoSum: that's commented out (the # bit) and you should try making it 0 (at least, it's worth a go)
[01:56] <jay> anyone know what XML-RAI is?
[01:56] <ErgoSum> djm62, ok
[01:56] <djm62> ErgoSum: make that line video-deco=0 in other words :)
[01:57] <ErgoSum> :)
[01:57] <ErgoSum> same problem yet
[01:57] <Ophiocus> erm,. should go like ,..      sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server             *and something like sudo apt-get install dhcpclient
[01:57] <jay> anyone?
[01:58] <ErgoSum> opens a new windows but i can see the task bar and the title bar
[01:58] <jay> i found the cpan page.... but it won't compile
[01:58] <psusi> can anyone show me an example of using the -prune switch with find?  it keeps telling me paths must preceed expression no matter where I put it
[02:00] <djm62> ErgoSum: I'm stumped
[02:00] <ErgoSum> haha
[02:00] <_classic> does any1 know if it's possible to add a directory (which is readable on a pc) to a valid dvd-image?
[02:00] <robotgeek> NeoFax12: can you let me know if that worked?
[02:01] <_classic> i'd like to add a folder with pics to a dvd, besides a movie.. does that compromise the dvd-filestructure?
[02:02] <lightbright> ever since I updated to xchat 2.6.0 I cant ignore anyone! there isnt a ignore option!  any help?
[02:02] <djm62> ErgoSum: your problem is that the wm is insisting on decorating the fullscreen window, maybe you could try a vlc irc room?
[02:03] <nalioth> lightbright: you can't /ignore NICK  at the text entry line?
[02:03] <PsiDragon> ubotu: tell PsiDragon about synaptic
[02:03] <ErgoSum> djm62, is something like this: http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo4zy.png
[02:03] <PsiDragon> :|
[02:03] <lightbright> nalioth: no, it doesnt work!  it says: Usage: IGNORE <mask> <types..> <options..> mask - host mask to ignore, eg: *!*@*.aol.com types - types of data to ignore, one or all of: PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL options - NOSAVE, QUIET
[02:04] <nalioth> lightbright: that is weird
[02:04] <lightbright> nalioth: whenever I type /ignore NICK  it gives me that message!  any ideas?
[02:04] <robotgeek> lightbright: /ignore nick all
[02:04] <lightbright> robotgeek: when I type that it says NICK is ignored, YET I can still see them typing
[02:04] <lightbright> nalioth: am I using a legitmate xchat 2.6.0?
[02:04] <purplefeltangel> hm, can someone help me with a program? it was written in 1998 and it has versions for windows, DOS and mac, plus source code for Unix....im going ot have to compile it myself, arent i?
[02:05] <nalioth> lightbright: idk. where did you get it and what does "help > about xchat" say?
[02:05] <robotgeek> lightbright: oh, i tht irssi.
[02:05] <lightbright> nalioth: I did a apt-get upgrade and it installed!
[02:06] <lightbright> nalioth: what irc program do you use?
[02:06] <N6pfk> My touchpad mouse has stopped working and I have no synaptic module to modprobe?
[02:06] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, yes or use the dos version in a dos emulator/envoirement
[02:06] <nalioth> lightbright: irssi
[02:06] <lightbright> nalioth: maybe from backports
[02:06] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: compiling something is Not For N00bs, hm?
[02:06] <lightbright> nalioth: is irssi better than xchat?
[02:07] <djm62> ErgoSum: have you tried in the preferences dialog?  if you check the advanced button at the bottom right and check the video bit
[02:07] <nalioth> lightbright: they both offer things the other does not
[02:07] <lightbright> robotgeek: why do you use irssi over xchat?
[02:07] <opnsrc> Ok, I have another HD that's fat32
[02:07] <opnsrc> how do I mount it and keep it mounted?
[02:07] <nalioth> lightbright: i like irssi because i can access it from ANYWHERE in the world
[02:07] <opnsrc> every time it starts up for all users
[02:07] <lightbright> nalioth: how do you ignore someone?  through irssi or typing?
[02:07] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, you can try but it's very old it could easily fail
[02:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell opnsrc about easymount
[02:07] <nalioth> lightbright: i type /ignore NICK
[02:08] <opnsrc> thanks
[02:08] <lightbright> nalioth: No candidate version found for irssi
[02:08] <rajasun> lightbright: irssi, bitchx are text clients. Each has its fans and critics. To each his/her own preferences.
[02:08] <robotgeek> lightbright: irssi-text
[02:08] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: i've never compiled anything before.... :/ this isnt really the place to ask how, is it?
[02:08] <_classic> does any1 know if it's possible to add a directory (which is readable on a pc) to a valid dvd-image?
[02:08] <PsiDragon> nalioth: what dhcp installer does Ubuntu's ISO CD installer use?  I need to install it on my Debian system (My Ubuntu GUI didn't work)
[02:08] <nalioth> lightbright: it's called irssi-text and it is already on your system. type 'irssi" at a console
[02:08] <robotgeek> lightbright: plus, it's installed
[02:08] <opnsrc> thanks
[02:08] <lightbright> ok
[02:08] <opnsrc> should I run the script as root?
[02:08] <BudSmoker> anybody ever have problems getting sound out of VLC, it plays the video just fine but I can get any sound..
[02:09] <nalioth> PsiDragon: i'm not sure, but you can grab it from packages.ubuntu.com and try to install it on your debian
[02:09] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, it comes in a tar.gz??
[02:09] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: nope
[02:09] <ubuntu> can someone browse fat32 hard disk through ubuntu ?
[02:09] <nalioth> opnsrc: read the script in a text editor, it has full instructions
[02:09] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog/astfile.htm
[02:09] <ErgoSum> djm62, video bit?
[02:09] <N6pfk> Any idea on how to get my touchpad working?
[02:10] <djm62> ErgoSum: in the preferences window, at the left, the the bit that says video
[02:10] <ErgoSum> yes
[02:10] <PsiDragon> nalioth: Thank You.  Where could I find out what DHCP Installer Ubuntu uses in its ISO CD?
[02:10] <opnsrc> I read it
[02:10] <opnsrc> it said run it
[02:10] <opnsrc> and type own pw
[02:10] <djm62> and there's a checkbox for access to "advanced" settings at the bottom left of the prefs window
[02:10] <nalioth> PsiDragon: i'm not sure, sorry.
[02:10] <ErgoSum> yes
[02:10] <ErgoSum> and then?
[02:11] <PsiDragon> nalioth: Thank You.
[02:11] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, it is a shar file try sh file.shr
[02:11] <djm62> ErgoSum: drag the scroll bar (on the right) down until you see the window decorations checkbox...it might work
[02:12] <ErgoSum> it is unchecked and still the same prob
[02:13] <Knowerrors> whats the best firewall for ubuntu?
[02:13] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: ok, id id that...and it told me tha ta bunch of things were obsolete :/ no what
[02:14] <djm62> ErgoSum: ok, now I'm genuinely out of suggestions :(
[02:14] <ErgoSum> :SS
[02:14] <djm62> ErgoSum: try a vlc channel if you can find one
[02:14] <ErgoSum> in totem i can do a full screen :(
[02:15] <ErgoSum> ok
[02:15] <ErgoSum> ill try
[02:15] <ErgoSum> thanks 4 ur help
[02:15] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, wait i'm dl it now
[02:15] <bitnet> hey all
[02:15] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: ok
[02:17] <bitnet> got one question. is it possible to enable the root account of an Ubuntu 05.4 desktop?
[02:17] <djm62> bitnet: possible but not advisable
[02:17] <robotgeek> bitnet: why do you need to do that?
[02:17] <purplefeltangel> erusul: also it extracted a bunch of stuff into my Home folder...where should i move it??
[02:18] <bitnet> lots of things. one, as a beginner, i want to get control of the different services using as much as possible GUI
[02:18] <robotgeek> bitnet: sure, all is possible thru gui
[02:19] <bitnet> http for instance, mysql, etc
[02:19] <robotgeek> bitnet: even without enabling root
[02:19] <lightbright> when I removed xchat using aptitude, it said it removed xchat and ubuntu-desktop. BUT dont I need ubuntu dekstop?
[02:19] <djm62> bitnet: the command is sudo
[02:19] <rixth> Hey- I know you can't do a direct copy of commerical DVDs, but if you have a DVD-R can you just do a normal disc to disc copy?
[02:19] <Mabus06> how do I set up a network game in freeciv?
[02:19] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell bitnet about sudo
[02:19] <cin_> Does anyone know of any up to date books that can help me understand Linux more? I want to learn to install progs and stuff but the tutorials they come with are no help
[02:19] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, i've tried to compile it myself and it has code errors you won't be able to compile it sorry :(
[02:19] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: so what should i do if i want to use it :/
[02:19] <robotgeek> lightbright: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package,
[02:19] <lightbright> nalioth: when I removed xchat using aptitude, it said it removed xchat and ubuntu-desktop. BUT dont I need ubuntu dekstop?
[02:20] <djm62> lightbright: ubuntu-desktop depends on all the desktop stuff, but not vice-versa...it's shorthand for "install everything I depend upon" (IIRC)
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> cin_,  get a book based on your disrto they are different :( and check all the online tutorials/wiki's first
[02:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: whats a  meta-package?
[02:20] <bitnet> yeap i tried sudo, but i suppose it only works well when i am on a console
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: make sure you install it back when you dist-upgrade
[02:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: what you mean?  I should now type apt-get upgrade?
[02:20] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, try searching for another program. try the dos version with dosbox
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: it's a package which installs other packages, it doesn't contain anything but dependencies
[02:20] <nalioth> lightbright: not until you upgrade to dapper
[02:20] <cin_> Thats what I mean, wiki's and junk are no help...I need one for Ubuntu/ Debian...Maybe BSD I really haven't ventured into BSD yet
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: no, say when you are moving to dapper
[02:20] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL ok
[02:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: so what do I need to do now?
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: nothing
[02:21] <lightbright> robotgeek: so I dont need ubuntu-desktop?
[02:21] <robotgeek> lightbright: not really :)
[02:21] <plagerism> Is it just me or is everyone having problems with latest update of kernel/fglrx drivers??
[02:21] <lightbright> robotgeek: btw, I removed backports from sourceslist and reinstalled xchat and now ignore works
[02:22] <lightbright> im not going to have backports in sources anymore :P
[02:22] <plagerism> Is it just me or is everyone having problems with latest update of kernel/fglrx drivers??
[02:22] <nalioth> lightbright: backports are good, if you know exactly the program you want
[02:22] <Mabus06> how do I set up a network game in freeciv?
[02:23] <lightbright> robotgeek: I also typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <lightbright>  and it seems to be back again
[02:23] <cin_> Um, stupid question, but how do I login as root? sudo root or something?
[02:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell cin_ about sudo
[02:23] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: um what is the command to extract something?? ^^;
[02:23] <lightbright> nalioth: yeah, but xchat I didnt want!  its been changed and a lot of right click features taken out!  so I went back from 2.6.0 to 2.4.4
[02:23] <bitnet> one more please, is there a way or a possibility for my Ubuntu desktop to make use of my Canon Multipass F60 printer and scanner, it has been 3 months now since i totally left Windows that this resource becomes non-performing
[02:24] <nalioth> lightbright: yes, it's not a good ideas to have bp enabled for general use
[02:24] <lightbright> nalioth: I also typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:24] <lightbright> nalioth: I know that now ;)
[02:24] <lightbright> nalioth:  like you said, only if after a partciluar program
[02:24] <Akonkwa> When I boot my computer, gnome and x won't start. Itried startx but it doesn't work. I looked into /var/log/Xorg/.0.log and found "fatal error, could not open font 'fixed' "
[02:25] <Akonkwa> Can anyone help?
[02:25] <luisito> hello
[02:25] <purplefeltangel> how do i extract a .zip file? :/
[02:25] <redguy> bitnet: try looking in linuxprinting.org
[02:25] <lightbright> robotgeek: I typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , was that ok to do now?
[02:26] <robotgeek> lightbright: it will install back xchat, but it was alright
[02:26] <SoulPropagation> purplefeltangel: unzip
[02:27] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, unzip file
[02:27] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: now that its unzipped what do i do with it?
[02:27] <lisa_> hi
[02:27] <Akonkwa> anybody? please?  Can anyone help me? i'm helpless without my gui...
[02:27] <djm62> Akonkwa: have you uninstalled anything forcefully or changed config?
[02:27] <bitnet> Ubuntu is so cool ... trillion thanks to the philanthropic humanoid who propagated this
[02:27] <djm62> Akonkwa: you're never helpless
[02:27] <lisa_> exit
[02:27] <Akonkwa> djm62: I've intalled kino, that's all
[02:28] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, install dosbox (a x86 dos emulator)
[02:28] <djm62> Akonkwa: do you have a console command line?
[02:28] <Akonkwa> djm62: yes, I do
[02:28] <Akonkwa> djm62,  but rihgt now i'm running a live session
[02:28] <djm62> Akonkwa: can you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[02:28] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: but what do i do with the unzipped program files and whatever... where should i put it so that its not running from my Home folder?
[02:28] <cin_> ty robotgeek, got it...I forgot how, I need to get a book to learn my way through bash
[02:29] <Akonkwa> djm62,  i tried that, but it said "no such command"
[02:29] <djm62> (!)
[02:30] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, for now keep them there
[02:30] <Akonkwa> djm62: I shall try again
[02:30] <djm62> Akonkwa: is your system a normal breezy install?
[02:30] <dbyte> anyone know how to speed up dvd playback?
[02:30] <dbyte> i finally got it working, but its kinda choppy
[02:30] <mahangu> does ubuntu work with a standard pcmia GPRS card?
[02:30] <djm62> (or hoary, or anything else normal)
[02:30] <djm62> mahangu: there's a standard?
[02:30] <bitnet> exit
[02:30] <Akonkwa> djm62: it's a hoary install
[02:30] <lightbright> robotgeek: I installed xchat back but not from backports and xchat works great again :)  and then I typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop!  was that ok?  nothing would have broken now when I reboot would it?
[02:30] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: ok :/ but when does "for now' end
[02:31] <robotgeek> lightbright: nope, nothing to worry
[02:31] <lightbright> robotgeek: fantastic :) ty
[02:31] <djm62> dbyte: is dma turned on? try using hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever to do so
[02:31] <cin_> Now, I accessed root and went into cd / now the installation needs me to use gunzip. I tried just typing gunzip and it said "gunzip data not found on terminal" what now? Kinda stumped
[02:31] <Akonkwa> djm62,  I'll try the command you gave me, be back in a few minutes
[02:31] <lightbright> cin_: apt-get install unzip ?
[02:31] <cin_> lemme try
[02:31] <lightbright> cin_: ok
[02:32] <djm62> (btw, where is the non-hacky place to put that hdparm setting for boot?)
[02:32] <cin_> Woo! TY
[02:32] <lightbright> cin_: fantastic :)
[02:32] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: how do you work DOSbox?
[02:32] <lightbright> djm62: non-hacky place? hehe
[02:32] <mahangu> djm62, i think so
[02:33] <erUSUL> run it from a terminal
[02:33] <djm62> lightbright: hacky in the benign derogatory sense
[02:33] <lightbright> djm62: cute :P
[02:33] <lightbright> djm62: btw, its hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever , not hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever :)
[02:34] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, Aplications->Accesories>terminal
[02:34] <dbyte> Djm62 yup its on
[02:34] <cin_> Alright, stumped again. I'm trying to install AIM, if anyone can tell me what do I do at step 4? http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#install2
[02:34] <djm62> lightbright: it's either
[02:34] <lightbright> djm62: I didnt know that, thanks :)
[02:35] <lightbright> cin_: is AIM similar to Gaim?
[02:35] <djm62> cin_: are you sure you want to install that /ancient/ version of AIM?
[02:35] <cin_> o.O Yep, and I guess.
[02:35] <atrophic> cin_, Gaim will get you on aim, and it comes preinstalled
[02:35] <nalioth> lightbright: gaim started out as an aim client
[02:36] <cin_> Oh woops, i forgot it had GAIM >.<
[02:36] <lightbright> nalioth: ah ok! so why would he want to use Aim I wonder
[02:36] <lightbright> cin_:  hehe ;)
[02:36] <mahangu> djm62, any idea?
[02:36] <djm62> mahangu: some gprs cards work
[02:36] <cin_> Does anyone know where I can get a partitioner?
[02:36] <nalioth> lightbright: some folks are unfamiliar with all that linux offers
[02:36] <dbyte> lightbright: any idea on how to speed up playback?
[02:36] <nalioth> cin_: there is one on both the live and install cds
[02:37] <djm62> mahangu: mine very nearly works, but needs proprietary software to send a magic enablement code
[02:37] <cin_> where?
[02:37] <lightbright> dbyte: yes hdparm -d1
[02:37] <nalioth> cin_: which cd are we talking? live or install?
[02:37] <dbyte> lightbright, already done, any other ideas? :)
[02:37] <lightbright> dbyte: you mean playback from DVD?
[02:37] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: well, yes. i have dosbox running already; how do i run my program
[02:37] <lightbright> dbyte: you mean playback from DVD or hard drive?
[02:37] <djm62> dbyte: the other thing is use accelerated video display
[02:37] <cin_> install. I already installed it but need a partitioner for somethin else.
[02:37] <lightbright> nalioth: yes I know
[02:38] <lightbright> cin_: cfdisk
[02:38] <Skullb0x> I've downloaded some .rar files, whats a good program to extract the .iso from the rar files in ubuntu
[02:38] <djm62> unrar?
[02:38] <dbyte> djm62:  glxinfo says DRI is enabled
[02:38] <nalioth> cin_: start the installer and hit ctrl-alt-f1 and type "parted"
[02:38] <dbyte> lightbright: from DVD
[02:38] <djm62> dbyte: but is your video player using that?
[02:38] <Skullb0x> is there any graphical app to unrar?
[02:38] <dbyte> djm62: not sure
[02:38] <nalioth> Skullb0x: sure. file-roller, ark, and on and on
[02:38] <lightbright> dbyte: yes get a faster dvd player! :)  btw, so what I stepped you through earlier, it works now?  your dvd is playing now?
[02:39] <nalioth> Skullb0x: it's built into nautilus (if you have unrar-nonfree or unrar-free installed)
[02:39] <djm62> nalioth: does nautilus handle select-all un whatever
[02:39] <dbyte> lightbright: no, i just started from scratch
[02:39] <lightbright> dbyte: I thought you told me you cant play DVD
[02:39] <mahangu> djm62, proprietry but free download?
[02:39] <lightbright> dbyte: what did you do different?
[02:39] <cin_> o.O i'll just pass...I have Windows and Ubuntu on this system(windows is my dads) so grub is already installed so what if I put in my Debian installer disc, would it detect grub and just add it to the list?
[02:39] <dbyte> lightbright: nothing significant
[02:39] <nalioth> djm62: it should, but depends on the rar
[02:39] <lightbright> dbyte: what steps did you follow this time?
[02:39] <djm62> mahangu: I bought the card, plus windows drivers
[02:39] <dbyte> lightbright: i think the only thing i really did different was not try to play a DVD until i installed a ton of stuff
[02:40] <dbyte> lightbright: something got horked up last time I guess
[02:40] <mahangu> djm62, it's a pcmia card - globetrotter COMBO EDGE
[02:40] <djm62> mahangu: the card itself works ok...I'll get someone to enable it at some point, but it was a "free with" purchase
[02:40] <lightbright> dbyte: what steps did you follow this time?  did you use the steps I gave you, or a differtent method?
[02:40] <dbyte> lightbright: i just went to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and did all the stuff there
[02:40] <lightbright> dbyte: one by one?
[02:41] <dbyte> lightbright: not really
[02:41] <mahangu> djm62, that is your card?
[02:41] <lightbright> dbyte: did you use this:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[02:41] <djm62> mahangu: nope...best you can do for that in particular is google it
[02:41] <dbyte> lightbright: i installed all the gstreamer junk, the libdvdcss through the script, and flash
[02:41] <lightbright> dbyte: how did you install all the gstreamer stuff? 1 by one, or the command I gave?
[02:42] <dbyte> lightbright: then it worked fine, so I went and got libdvdcss 1.2.9 to see if it would help speed it up any
[02:42] <mahangu> djm62, mind linking me to your one?
[02:42] <dbyte> lightbright: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a cut n paste command for it
[02:43] <dbyte> lightbright: dvd playback through xine was working perfect until I started this reinstall...my previous install had been on my laptop for almost 2 years
[02:43] <dbyte> djm62: what video out should I use?
[02:43] <lightbright> nalioth: what was your message?  i didnt see it properly?
[02:44] <djm62> dbyte: depends on your system I think, GL is accelerated
[02:45] <lightbright> nalioth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  tells to install ALL those plugins
[02:45] <nalioth> lightbright: gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse install most (if not all) the gstreamer plugins
[02:45] <djm62> mahangu: http://www.pharscape.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=4&Itemid=53
[02:45] <djm62> mahangu: looks like you're out of luck, the combo has a proprietary interface (hence not a "standard" card)
[02:46] <lightbright> nalioth: what do you mean?  i dont understand
[02:46] <nalioth> lightbright: why type out all that gstreamer-this and gstreamer-that ?
[02:46] <lightbright> nalioth: thats from a website I followed
[02:46] <djm62> lightbright: metapackages again...all they are is dependencies on the /real/ plugins
[02:47] <lightbright> nalioth: whats the short comand then I need?
[02:47] <mahangu> djm62, have you ever tried hooking a GPRS phone up to your IR port?
[02:47] <dbyte> djm62: any idea why it wouldnt let me do fullscreen with opengl?
[02:47] <djm62> dbyte: nope...
[02:47] <nalioth> lightbright: if you install gstreamer0.8-plugins and  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, you'll have all you need
[02:47] <lightbright> nalioth: you mean all I need to type instead is:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:47] <lightbright>   ?
[02:47] <cin_> How do you install GDM themes? I have one thats a tar so do I untar it then stick in usr/share/gdm/themes/~then put it there?
[02:47] <nalioth> i believe the -ffmpeg is redundant, lightbright
[02:48] <djm62> mahangu: nope, never used GPRS, all kinds of poorly-documented bits, ran out of patience
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> lightbright, you know how to use synaptic ?? instead of figuring out what to type just search there ...
[02:48] <lightbright> nalioth: ah ok! i understand , thanks!  So instead of that long command, all I need to type is: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:48] <lightbright> ?
[02:48] <Akonkwa> djm62: I'm back. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" Went through the prompts and when it was over I tried startx and it still didn't work. What should I do?
[02:49] <lightbright> nalioth: instead of:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[02:49] <nalioth> lightbright: i think you are wasting your typeing with the -ffmpeg entry
[02:49] <djm62> Akonkwa: same error?
[02:49] <Akonkwa> djm62: same error :s
[02:49] <lightbright> nalioth: so what do you say is all thats needed then?
[02:49] <nalioth> lightbright: -plugins and -plugins-multiverse
[02:49] <lightbright> nalioth: this website said all that is needed: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[02:49] <cin_> Gah!
[02:50] <nalioth> lightbright: no animals are harmed by installing more gstreamer plugins than are on that page
[02:50] <lightbright> nalioth: so whats the command?  apt-get install  -plugins -plugins-multiverse ?
[02:50] <Akonkwa> djm62: any ideas?
[02:51] <dbyte> AHA
[02:51] <nalioth> lightbright: i'm sorry. i dont like typing out gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse each time i send text, we are on the gstreamer subject and i thought that just referring to -plugins and -plugins-multiverse would make sens
[02:51] <dbyte> got it
[02:51] <djm62> Akonkwa: I don't know what would have happened: maybe aptitude install xfonts-base
[02:52] <dbyte> djm62: sdl couldnt do fullscreen, opengl was slow as molasses, xv works great :)
[02:52] <Akonkwa> djm62: so I should run the command "sudo aptitude install xfonts-base"?
[02:52] <djm62> Akonkwa: yeah, but all these things should be there anyway
[02:53] <lightbright> nalioth: but how would that command also install mjpegtools and totem-xine?
[02:53] <candlelight> is there a doc that describe the command line equivalent to each of the menu option in synaptic package manager?
[02:53] <djm62> Akonkwa: I don't see why your X should be broken
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> candlelight, man apt-get
[02:53] <chms> anyone know why services-admin was changed?
[02:53] <Akonkwa> djm62: is there a way for me to reinstall ubuntu wothout losing what was on the partition?
[02:53] <djm62> Akonkwa: how much data do you have?
[02:53] <nalioth> lightbright: i was only remarking that instead of typing all those individual gstreamer pkgs into the command, 2 gstreamer pkgs would cover all that are needed, you will still need to install xine, and the other things
[02:54] <Akonkwa> djm62 : maybe 1Gb
[02:54] <drdss> Can I stream .pls files from www.shoutcast.com?  like winamp?
[02:54] <nalioth> drdss: of course you can
[02:54] <drdss> nalioth, what prog pls
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Akonkwa, if you have all those on /home partition then ya ... just reinstall / partition and mount /home again
[02:54] <djm62> Akonkwa: in /home  ?
[02:54] <lightbright> nalioth: ok gotit, thanks :)
[02:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell drdss about multimedia
[02:55] <drdss> nalioth, www.shoutcast.com bassdrive jungletrain pls
[02:55] <Akonkwa> djm62,: it's all in home
[02:55] <drdss> nalioth, .pls opens in rythmbox by default, does not play.  save to file and open in xmms, does not work freezes
[02:55] <lightbright> nalioth: so all I need type is:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg    and then  sudo apt-get install faad sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine ?
[02:56] <lightbright> nalioth: is that all thats neeeded then?
[02:56] <nalioth> lightbright: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:56] <Akonkwa> djm62: do you know how I can reinstall ubuntu without erasing /home?
[02:56] <djm62> Akonkwa: not offhand
[02:56] <lightbright> Akonkwa: did you install /home on seperate partition?
[02:56] <Akonkwa> lightbright,  : no
[02:57] <lightbright> Akonkwa: now you know why its a good idea
[02:57] <Akonkwa> lightbright: I mean i'm not sure, I just followed the installtion. does that mean I did not?
[02:57] <drdss> Akonkwa: make a separate /home partition, copy /home to it, then u can reinstall with the cd over the rest
[02:58] <candlelight> wickedpuppy, thanks
[02:58] <gar-> why there some program or management tools that wound load when tu run it for example the login screen setup i want to access i start but dont open close fast
[02:58] <lightbright> Akonkwa: it wont create it unless you told it to
[02:58] <gar-> robotgeek,  are u there
[02:58] <robotgeek> gar-: yes
[02:58] <Akonkwa> drdss: How can I make a separate partition using the terminal?
[02:58] <gar-> robotgeek, i have one new peoblem with alot of aplications
[02:58] <robotgeek> gar-: what?
[02:58] <drdss> Akonkwa, type df -ah to see the partitions... maybe you have /homt
[02:59] <gar-> robotgeek, when i try to start some program it wound load i start i can see the tab but close fast what that can be?
[02:59] <robotgeek> gar-: any program?
[02:59] <Akonkwa> drss: I'm a beginner so I don't quite understand what you meant... ???
[03:00] <drdss> Seriously now what program for .pls from www.shoutcast.com, rythmbox, xmms, gstreamer do not work
[03:00] <robotgeek> gar-: your errors should mostly logged be in ~/.xsession-errors
[03:00] <purplefeltangel> hey, does anyone in here know the name of that program that partitions ntfs?
[03:00] <gar-> robotgeek, look i try to open login screen setup from System Menu ask me for pass i put it but notting happen it wound't open
[03:00] <Akonkwa> drss  : I should first type " df -ah" and then ?
[03:00] <robotgeek> drdss: do you have the codecs
[03:00] <drdss> Akonkwa, check out "man fdisk" and if you don't understand that, don't mess iwth your partitionz
[03:00] <scanwinder> im getting a  dependency problem  with apt in ubuntu breezy with libgtk2.0-dev depending on libpango1.0-dev, libcairo2-dev and libxcursor-dev . and none of those 3 packages will install......anyone know howto resolve this? do i need to change my repositories?
[03:00] <drdss> robotgeek, hwich codecs please
[03:00] <robotgeek> drdss: mp3
[03:01] <Akonkwa> drdss: Okay thanx
[03:01] <drdss> robotgeek, seriously apt-get or synaptic tell me
[03:01] <Akonkwa> drdss: just one more thing, how do I copy a file in the terminal?
[03:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell drdss about mp3
[03:01] <robotgeek> gar-: moment
[03:02] <djm62> Akonkwa: cp oldfilename /new/file/location/newname
[03:02] <gar-> robotgeek, ok let me know how to check for the errors
[03:02] <drdss> robotgeek, seriously it's free... http://www.shoutcast.com  it's not restricted I want to play
[03:02] <djm62> Akonkwa: the command is cp.  cp oldfile newfile
[03:02] <robotgeek> drdss: mp3 is, you need a decoder
[03:02] <gar-> drdss, what u try to do with shoutcast? i know alot about it
[03:02] <Akonkwa> DjaFollah, : thanx
[03:03] <drdss> gar-, I want to play it
[03:03] <Akonkwa> djm62,  thanx
[03:03] <DjaFollah> Akonkwa, de nada
[03:03] <DjaFollah> ;)
[03:03] <Akonkwa> DjaFollah,  lol
[03:03] <drdss> gar-, I want to associate the correct player with http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5932&file=filename.pls
[03:03] <gar-> drdss,  you need a decoder fist mp3 decoder install xmms or mplayer it will download the decoders
[03:03] <drdss> gar-, rythmbox xmms and gstreamre dont wokr
[03:03] <Akonkwa> i meant djm62
[03:03] <robotgeek> gar-: type in a terminal 'sudo gdmsetup'
[03:04] <crazymill> hey
[03:04] <robotgeek> drdss: enable universe, multiverse. then 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg'
[03:04] <Jaymill> I need some help with an install
[03:04] <gar-> robotgeek, Could not access GDM configuration file.
[03:04] <Jaymill> for a complete linux newbie
[03:04] <robotgeek> gar-: you are using gnome, right?
[03:04] <gar-> robotgeek, nope lol kubuntu
[03:04] <liable> xmms can do strems, just click on the stream and wammo
[03:04] <jsherring> hi....i'm having trouble playing videos from cnn.com
[03:05] <drdss> gar-, I have plugins and ffmpeg but the multi is not in synaptic... lemme enable
[03:05] <robotgeek> gar-: hmm, one sec
[03:05] <gar-> drdss,  what u try to do stream file over net or just listen to it?
[03:05] <Jaymill> hey, can anyone help me with an install?
[03:05] <drdss> gar-, streammmmm
[03:05] <drdss> gar-, streammmmm http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5932&file=filename.pls
[03:05] <Madpilot> Jaymill: installing what?
[03:05] <Mabus06> can ANYONE help me to start a freeciv game that friends can connect to?
[03:06] <gar-> drdss,  use the shoutcast supositorius it will automatic stream from the fordel
[03:06] <Jaymill> ubuntu
[03:06] <Jaymill> itself
[03:06] <Jaymill> complete newbie
[03:06] <Jaymill> :)
[03:06] <robotgeek> gar-: i am not sure, ask in #kubuntu too
[03:06] <Madpilot> Jaymill: dual boot w/ Win, or by itself on a computer?
[03:06] <gar-> robotgeek, ok
[03:06] <Jaymill> by itself
[03:06] <Jaymill> having trouble from the bat
[03:06] <Jaymill> with the iso image
[03:06] <gar-> robotgeek, but the same problem is on gnome to
[03:06] <jsherring> firefox crashes with a "Segmentation Fault" if i use mozilla-totem (xine), and it's choppy if i use mozilla-mplayer
[03:06] <Madpilot> Jaymill: you need to burn the ISO to CD, then install from the CD
[03:06] <drdss> liable, no it just freezes seriously click http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5932&file=filename.pls
[03:07] <Jaymill> I can't boot from the CD
[03:07] <Jaymill> it won't let me
[03:07] <drdss> gar-, how do i use the shotucast positories
[03:07] <djm62> Jaymill: you need to enable booting from CD in your BIOS
[03:07] <Jaymill> try telling it to boot from CD during boot, but it goes to windows anyway
[03:07] <Jaymill> already dome
[03:07] <Jaymill> done*
[03:07] <Madpilot> Jaymill: double check your BIOS settings
[03:07] <Jaymill> ok
[03:07] <robotgeek> gar-: you are trying to configure the login screen in kde (basically kdm). i hope you did not enable the root user
[03:07] <cin_> Does anyone know how to change a file into a tar?
[03:07] <DRAGON_Ultra> you may have a bad burn
[03:07] <drdss> Jaymill, take your id out of the bios startup
[03:08] <Jaymill> ?
[03:08] <Jaymill> that last one confused me
[03:08] <gar-> robotgeek, im no stupid i dont use root lol
[03:08] <gar-> robotgeek, is no only login screen is alot of appls
[03:08] <Madpilot> Jaymill: I think he meant to remove your hard drive from the boot sequence
[03:08] <robotgeek> gar-: any application just crashes?
[03:08] <Madpilot> so that it's forced to boot from the CD
[03:08] <liable> drdss: dud link, mplayer doesnt like it either.
[03:08] <djm62> Jaymill: have you burnt the ubuntu image correctly? if so, make sure that your computer checks for CD boot first (before HD)
[03:09] <gar-> robotgeek, alot of the they crash they dont even start i see the tab after that nutting
[03:09] <Jaymill> doing that now
[03:09] <Jaymill> ok
[03:09] <drdss> liable, please try any link at http://www.shoutcast.com send me
[03:09] <Jaymill> ok, trying again
[03:09] <Jaymill> hey, it worked
[03:09] <Jaymill> :)
[03:09] <Corrupter> whats a good CD burning program?
[03:09] <Madpilot> Corrupter: in Ubuntu?
[03:10] <djm62> Corrupter: nautilus will burn .iso and data CDs
[03:10] <gar-> Corrupter, i think toast dont know if suported by ubuntu
[03:10] <liable> drdss: the first one worked
[03:10] <djm62> Corrupter: (nautilus, the standard gnome file manager)
[03:10] <Jaymill> thanks guys
[03:10] <djm62> Corrupter: otherwise, gnome-baker
[03:10] <Jaymill> should be good from here
[03:10] <robotgeek> gar-: i am not quite sure what's causing the issue, check 'gedit ~/.xsession-errors'
[03:10] <threeseas> Jaymill: consider not using LVM
[03:10] <drdss> liable, cmon ill go to pastbin copy it to me cmon
[03:11] <drdss> liable, what program
[03:11] <Jaymill> LVM?
[03:11] <Madpilot> Corrupter: in Ubuntu, Nautilus does nicely, K3B also, and Serpentine for music CDs
[03:11] <gar-> robotgeek, i canot open that
[03:11] <Corrupter> alright
[03:11] <liable> drdss: worked in xmms
[03:11] <threeseas> Linux volume manager
[03:11] <Elsan> Is there any way to have more than ONE application use the sound device? This and the refresh rate are like my only problems with Ubuntu.
[03:11] <liable> drdss: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3281&file=filename.pls
[03:11] <Jaymill> installing over windows
[03:11] <robotgeek> gar-: hmm, i dunno
[03:11] <Jaymill> going to reformat
[03:11] <gar-> robotgeek, now is open let me see
[03:11] <robotgeek> gar-: kk
[03:12] <threeseas> JayMill: it will promot you at one point with the default setting to use LVM
[03:12] <Madpilot> Jaymill: are you just reformatting your entire HD to install Ubuntu?
[03:12] <walde> hmm, just playing around with luks, but there is one thing I dont understand. Does cryptdisk use automatically lukfs when reading the crypttab with option 'none'? Or do I have to enter all encryptionoptions manually?
[03:12] <navarone> Madpilot> I put balnk cd-r in and it mounts and asks me what I want to burn...after choosing and selecting file(s) it goes about it's business and i don't know if it's gnomebaker or whatever doing the actual burning. I'm just happy it works so seamlessly...<s>
[03:12] <Jaymill> yes
[03:13] <drdss> liable, it only wants to go in rythmbox and it doesnt work
[03:13] <kapputu> does Ubuntu support plug and play (pray)?
[03:13] <kapputu> I put in a wireless card. Is it supposed to detect it?
[03:13] <robotgeek> kapputu: it's called hotplugging, yes
[03:13] <djm62> kapputu: pcmcia? yes it should do
[03:13] <kapputu> ok it didn't
[03:13] <kapputu> or atleast I don't know if it did
[03:13] <scanwinder> im getting a  dependency problem  with apt in ubuntu breezy with libgtk2.0-dev depending on libpango1.0-dev, libcairo2-dev and libxcursor-dev . and none of those 3 packages will install......anyone know howto resolve this? do i need to change my repositories?
[03:13] <threeseas> by using LVM its much harder to recover or access your stuff should something happen down the road... by not using LVM you can access the data via a knoppix or even a ubuntu live CD
[03:13] <drdss> liable, xmms just freezes ///
[03:13] <djm62> kapputu: didn't detect it, or didn't configure it?
[03:13] <liable> drdss: try putting the address in xmms manually
[03:14] <liable> drdss: hrm
[03:14] <robotgeek> kapputu: 'dmesg | less' would help. so does 'lspci | less'
[03:14] <coldrain> hh
[03:14] <robotgeek> kapputu: or lshw
[03:14] <djm62> kapputu: after you insert it, dmesg
[03:14] <liable> drdss: you have mplayer?
[03:14] <drdss> liable, i tried copy link location, and i tried saving to a file... it doesnt like it.  and it tries rythmbox
[03:14] <DRAGON_Ultra> ubuntu live cd works great here
[03:14] <gar-> robotgeek, i dont see notting on it like look like a error
[03:14] <djm62> if only ubuntu had google earth :(
[03:14] <coldrain> 
[03:14] <robotgeek> gar-: i am not sure why every app just closes down.
[03:15] <threeseas> JayMill: the advantage of using LVM is that it automaticall resizes partitions, etc... as needed.... but for a single user... such advantage is outweighted
[03:15] <drdss> liable, installing 1 of 12 mplayer
[03:15] <ignashoo> newbie here... i need help with the installing it...
[03:15] <gar-> robotgeek, found one
[03:15] <gar-> (gdmsetup:9401): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:15] <gar-> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:15] <gar-> Could not access GDM configuration file.
[03:15] <purplefeltangel> SUPERUSER!
[03:15] <coldrain> 
[03:15] <navarone> djm62>try earth3d
[03:15] <kapputu> what am I looking for after I type dmesg?
[03:15] <purplefeltangel> coldrain: no chinese, sorry
[03:15] <djm62> navarone: ooh, cheers
[03:15] <coldrain> who is chinese
[03:15] <navarone> djm62>it is not as develeoped as google earth...but nice
[03:16] <purplefeltangel> coldrain: try #ubuntu-zh
[03:16] <djm62> coldrain: this is an english-speaking room
[03:17] <threeseas> ignashoo: installing ubuntu in what way?
[03:17] <sethk> djm62, sljer 3;oire aljl;jd
[03:17] <threeseas> ignashoo: by itself only or dual boot
[03:17] <gar-> robotgeek, i just put my new nvidia 2 go driver is look awersome also videos and games run smooth =)
[03:17] <coldrain> Thank you
[03:17] <luisito> how can I set an icon for the trash on the desktop?? please..
[03:18] <jsherring> can anyone help me with a crashing mozilla when playing videos?
[03:19] <purplefeltangel> where is the help topic for macromedia flash?
[03:19] <lightbright> how can I install a reliable and good download manager for Firefox please?
[03:19] <robotgeek> gar-: i'm ppc only. :)
[03:19] <gar-> robotgeek, ppc?
[03:19] <robotgeek> gar-: powerpc, apple
[03:20] <gar-> robotgeek, what is that?
[03:20] <milksteak> jsherring, what you using to play the videos?
[03:20] <lightbright> any help?
[03:20] <Jaymill> threeseas: so I should NOT use LVM correct?
[03:20] <gar-> robotgeek, ah lol u not using a pentium machine?
[03:20] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell lightbright about DownloadManager
[03:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: I didnt get any message
[03:20] <milksteak> lightbright, I just use wget
[03:20] <sethk> Jaymill, you should only use LVM if the complexity of LVM is justified.  It rarely is.
[03:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadManager
[03:20] <djm62> navarone: what's a detailed map to scan on earth3d? (that is damn cool btw, thanks)
[03:20] <threeseas> Jaymill: in my humble opinion and recent ecperience - I'd been better off without it
[03:20] <lightbright> milksteak: how you integrerate into firefox?
[03:20] <Madpilot> !tell purplefeltangel about flash
[03:20] <Jaymill> ok thank you
[03:21] <milksteak> hah
[03:21] <robotgeek> lightbright: that integrates with wget
[03:21] <milksteak> lightbright, I don't
[03:21] <milksteak> well
[03:21] <gar-> robotgeek, there is aprogram that emulate windows programs right?
[03:21] <jsherring> milksteak, firefox segfaults when i use mozilla-totem
[03:21] <drdss> gar-, liable nalioth, system test of the soundcard working?
[03:21] <robotgeek> gar-: wine
[03:21] <lightbright> robotgeek: thanks
[03:21] <milksteak> jsherring, tried the mplayer plugin?
[03:21] <gar-> robotgeek, it is work with ubuntu?
[03:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gar- about wine
[03:22] <navarone> djm62> I have only played around a bit. From what i gather you choose a map and then apply the markers and such for cities and points of interest. But like I said I have not played with it much so maybe take a look on google or forums
[03:22] <jsherring> yes, it plays, but it's very choppy
[03:22] <milksteak> jsherring, link me to the video you're trying to play
[03:22] <jsherring> milksteak, and i'm pretty sure it's not a bandwidth issue, tho i can't say for sure
[03:22] <Jaymill> robotgeek: what is this obotu thing you keep saying lol
[03:22] <jsherring> milksteak, okay, just a sec
[03:22] <Jaymill> robotgeek: is it an irc bot or something?
[03:23] <navarone> Jay>yes
[03:23] <robotgeek> Jaymill: yes
[03:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Jaymill about ubotu
[03:23] <Jaymill> robotgeek: pretty sweet
[03:23] <theacolyte> I just installed 5.10 on a new machine, and it boots fine up til it gets to the graphical login, where if I press the session button it crashes (hard locks, can't switch screens,etc) and when I log on sucessfully it just sits there with the brown background indefinately, I can still use the mouse.
[03:24] <lightbright> robotgeek:i installed it but it is not available in firefox!  any ideas
[03:24] <robotgeek> lightbright: there's an extension also, restart firefox after you install it
[03:24] <jsherring> milksteak, the address is http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/politics/2005/11/25/schneider.political.leftovers.affl
[03:24] <purplefeltangel> sometimes in flash the video freezes, and sound never plays.... i have tried the fixes listed on the wiki for tshi but it does not work; any help?
[03:25] <lightbright> robotgeek: I did restart but gwget is not available
[03:25] <luisito> how can I set an icon for the trash on the desktop?? please..
[03:25] <lightbright> does anyone know how to get Firefox to see and use gwget?
[03:25] <robotgeek> lightbright: did you install the firefox extension? fireget or something, from the same site
[03:26] <talios> lightbright, theres an extension for firefox on the gwget site, but its not triggering the extension installer for some reason ( wrong mime type on the server ) - you'll have to download and install it manually
[03:26] <lightbright> talios: ah ok
[03:26] <lightbright> robotgeek: thanks for your help
[03:26] <robotgeek> lightbright: np
[03:27] <threeseas> oops! deleted my trashcan in trying to disconnect it from the bottom bar
[03:27] <threeseas> how do I get it back
[03:27] <threeseas> ?
[03:27] <purplefeltangel> luisito: go to applications> system tools> configuration editor and go to /apps/nautilus/general
[03:28] <Fujitsu> !info
[03:28] <purplefeltangel> luisito: er, sorry, /apps/nautilus/desktop
[03:28] <luisito> purplefeltangel, ;) thank you !
[03:28] <nasimuto> Where can i add a command that would be executed in startup ?
[03:28] <purplefeltangel> luisito: no problem
[03:30] <bereaved1> purplefelt: is there any way to do that from the shell?
[03:30] <_classic> how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:32] <jay> any ideas why rhythmbox displays only 1 mp3 from my ipod when i have WAAAAYYY more
[03:32] <mrkoje> does anyone know of a good iax2 softphone for linux?
[03:32] <lightbright> how come some ISO gnomebaker or k3b doesnt read as an ISO?  Only ms windows and Nero does!  How come?
[03:32] <jonathon> hello
[03:32] <purplefeltangel> ok, ubuntuwiki says, "to get firefox to open a new tab when you click a link edit such and such file", but the file is read-only....how do i change this?
[03:32] <lightbright> when I burn a DVD or CD-RW, should I chose Joliet and Rock Ridge, or just Rock Ridge?
[03:33] <theacolyte> I just installed 5.10 on a new machine, and it boots fine up til it gets to the graphical login, where if I press the session button it crashes (hard locks, can't switch screens,etc) and when I log on sucessfully it just sits there with the brown background indefinately, I can still use the mouse. I can't force GDM to quit.
[03:33] <jonathon> there is a program which converts debs into apt its something like cleaninstall makeinstall or something anyone know what its called
[03:33] <lightbright> theacolyte: check your memory
[03:33] <lightbright> theacolyte: then check your hard drive
[03:33] <theacolyte> It boots fine in single user mode
[03:34] <theacolyte> And I previously had CentOS on this box, wanted to try Ubuntu out
[03:34] <lightbright> jonathon: alien
[03:34] <lightbright> theacolyte: I used CenOS and no more :P
[03:34] <theacolyte> The way that it looks I'll be going back, just wanted to give it a try
[03:34] <nalioth> theacolyte: how old or new is the machine?
[03:34] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: when I burn a DVD or CD-RW, should I chose Joliet and Rock Ridge, or just Rock Ridge?
[03:35] <theacolyte> It's a p4 3 ghz 1gb ram
[03:35] <theacolyte> sata drives
[03:35] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what????
[03:35] <liable> theacolyte: try switching to vt1 and stopping gdm
[03:35] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: Ill repeat!  when I burn a DVD or CD-RW, should I chose Joliet and Rock Ridge, or just Rock Ridge?
[03:35] <theacolyte> I can't even switch to vt1 =/
[03:35] <nalioth> liable: his machine freezes, no switching possible
[03:35] <nalioth> theacolyte: is it using new new new technologies?
[03:35] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: uhhh........... i don't know.....i've never burned a DVD or CD-RW on ubuntu.... :/
[03:35] <liable> bugger.. do it before you log in..
[03:35] <Fujitsu> Can the machine be pinged from a remote machine?
[03:35] <theacolyte> No, regular ddr400 and socket 478
[03:36] <jonathon> lightbright: i dont think thats what im after
[03:36] <theacolyte> It's got a wireless adapater that I haven't set up quite yet
[03:36] <Fujitsu> Ahh.
[03:37] <lightbright> jonathon: ok
[03:37] <lightbright> jonathon: theres no such thing as deb to apt-get
[03:37] <jonathon> lightbright: the program that im after works at the time u compile
[03:37] <jonathon> hello
[03:38] <_classic> how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:38] <opnsrc> how do i change my root  password
[03:38] <opnsrc> sudo pw
[03:38] <opnsrc> ?
[03:38] <ZeZu> a question i have gone over many times, what is the best portable GUI library ?
[03:38] <lightbright> opnsrc: its same as username
[03:39] <opnsrc> ???
[03:39] <opnsrc> I don't know how to change username either
[03:39] <Madpilot> !tell opnsrc about root
[03:39] <opnsrc> still new to linux
[03:39] <opnsrc> No I have Root enabled
[03:39] <ZeZu> anyone have suggestions ?
[03:39] <opnsrc> I figured it out
[03:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell opnsrc about root
[03:39] <opnsrc> the pw is currently the same as my login pw
[03:39] <nalioth> opnsrc: root is not necessary
[03:39] <robotgeek> opnsrc: how did you enable root?
[03:39] <opnsrc> but I just want to change it
[03:39] <purplefeltangel> how do i change a file from read-only?
[03:39] <opnsrc> I forgot
[03:39] <opnsrc> just set a pw
[03:39] <opnsrc> but now it works
[03:39] <opnsrc> I can login as root
[03:39] <robotgeek> opnsrc: sudo != root
[03:40] <opnsrc> No
[03:40] <opnsrc> I mean, literally, I can login as root
[03:40] <opnsrc> root
[03:40] <varsendagger> if one gets banned form a channel waht can they do?
[03:40] <opnsrc> a root GUI
[03:40] <sethk> opnsrc, me too
[03:40] <robotgeek> opnsrc: as a root user
[03:40] <Madpilot> opnsrc: you don't need root, and none of the graphical utils will work w/ root in Ubuntu...
[03:40] <opnsrc> Yeah
[03:40] <sethk> varsendagger, cry?
[03:40] <opnsrc> I know
[03:40] <opnsrc> Well I use it for setting stuff
[03:40] <lightbright> opnsrc: you are new to Linux?
[03:40] <opnsrc> Like settings
[03:40] <jonathon> Anyone know the program that converts ur debs into apt files for easy management its called something like cleaninstall anyone know it
[03:40] <opnsrc> Yeah, kinda
[03:40] <liable> varsendagger: apoligise and ask to be unbanned/
[03:40] <sethk> varsendagger, you could contact the freenode mavens, if you really want to make an issue, but it is not likely to get you anywhere
[03:40] <nalioth> opnsrc: root is disabled in ubuntu for a very good reason.
[03:40] <purplefeltangel> varsendagger: go on a mass murder spree!!!
[03:40] <opnsrc> I just forgot how to change the pw
[03:40] <pepsi> !yaboot
[03:40] <ubotu> pepsi: Wish i knew
[03:40] <opnsrc> Yeah, and I enabled it
[03:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jonathon about checkinstall
[03:40] <Fujitsu> jonathon: apt uses debs!
[03:40] <varsendagger> how do i apologize?
[03:40] <sethk> varsendagger, most channels clear that list frequently anyway
[03:41] <opnsrc> I know not to run applications on it
[03:41] <opnsrc> like X - chat
[03:41] <liable> varsendagger: /msg the op
[03:41] <purplefeltangel> how do i change a file from read-only??
[03:41] <lightbright> opnsrc: seeing you are new to Linux, who on earth told you to log in as root?
[03:41] <nalioth> opnsrc: there is NO reason for a 'root' account. sudo can do all superuser things you need
[03:41] <varsendagger> ahh
[03:41] <opnsrc> I know
[03:41] <liable> purplefeltangel: man chmod
[03:41] <robotgeek> opnsrc: did you enable the root user?
[03:41] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: chown 777 filename for example
[03:41] <opnsrc> Yeah
[03:41] <opnsrc> But I forgot how to change the pw
[03:42] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what?
[03:42] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: chmod 444 file etc
[03:42] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what does the number do?
[03:42] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I mean chmod
[03:42] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: 7 = r+w+x
[03:42] <_classic> lightbright: chmod - change file access permissions
[03:42] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what?
[03:43] <theacolyte> I guess I'll just have to get my wifi adpater working to see if I can ssh into it when it's in GDM and try to troubleshoot it that way
[03:43] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: what?
[03:43] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what does the number do???
[03:43] <sethk> purplefeltangel, it is really best to not use the number
[03:43] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: read Linux for Dummies book about permissions before you tamper with them
[03:44] <sethk> purplefeltangel, you should do things like  chmod g+rw   filename
[03:44] <liable> theacolyte: try booting into single (edit grub) and remove gdm for know
[03:44] <lightbright> sethk: I use the numbers because I remmber them easier :)
[03:44] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel: try "man chmod" or man chown in a terminal
[03:44] <sethk> lightbright, they are error prone and very much the wrong way to do things
[03:44] <opnsrc> ok, how do I change the pw for my user?
[03:44] <theacolyte> Yeah I could try that as well same difference I guess hehe
[03:44] <theacolyte> doing that now
[03:44] <sethk> opnsrc, passwd username
[03:44] <sethk> opnsrc, as root
[03:44] <opnsrc> thanks
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> uhhhh.....
[03:44] <nalioth> sethk: there is no root account
[03:44] <lightbright> sethk: error prone?  you mean theres a bug in Linux that I can enter 7 and it doesnt do it?
[03:44] <sethk> nalioth, untrue
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> wow, conflicting information. :D
[03:44] <Madpilot> nalioth: he set one...
[03:44] <opnsrc> I have to start learning these commands
[03:44] <opnsrc> Linux rules
[03:44] <sethk> lightbright, absolutely error prone.
[03:45] <opnsrc> very stable OS, way better than windows
[03:45] <lightbright> sethk: error prone?  you mean theres a bug in Linux that I can enter 7 and it doesnt do it?
[03:45] <sethk> lightbright, agreement with that is directly proportional to experience in unix.
[03:45] <sethk> lightbright, no, I mean there is a bug in every human being and you will use the wrong number
[03:45] <_classic> how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:45] <sethk> lightbright, that's why the symbols were added, in 1974
[03:45] <Corrupter> can i get realvnc with apt-get?
[03:45] <lightbright> sethk: how come nobody else I have heard say there is a bug in linux's chmod using numbers?
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, because you didn't here me say it either
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, I said it is error prone
[03:46] <lightbright> sethk: how exactly it is error prone?  what you mean exactly pls?
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, take absolutely any text on software practices, and in the first few sentences you will find the words "do not use literal numbers"
[03:46] <Corrupter> does anyone know how to get realvnc?
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, you type in the wrong number, because you are doing a calculation in your head
[03:46] <opnsrc> I also have another question. When I switch from root to my regular user it asks for a pw, but when switching from the regular user back to root it doesn't
[03:46] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: um, id id what you said and now its an "exectuable text file," and it will elt me change, but it will not let me save.
[03:46] <lightbright> sethk: you mean if I enter for example chmod 777 filename, Linux can make an error?
[03:46] <opnsrc> Actually, I want the reverse to be true
[03:46] <sethk> Corrupter, you can install from the tarball,  Not sure about packages
[03:47] <ts2> What is the difference b/w Ubuntu and Debian? Is this explained somewhere?
[03:47] <sethk> lightbright, no, _you_ can make an error
[03:47] <Corrupter> sethk: no way to get it with apt-get?
[03:47] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I didnt tell you to do anything!  I gave examples
[03:47] <sethk> lightbright, of course I suppose it is theoretically possible that linux _could_ make an error  :)
[03:47] <nalioth> opnsrc: it sounds like you've compromised your system already
[03:47] <opnsrc> heh
[03:47] <sethk> Corrupter, I don't know of one, but I don't know everything.  :)
[03:47] <akonkwa> How can I install the cdrdao package?
[03:47] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: well way to fuck up a linux n00b.
[03:47] <opnsrc> No, just learning how to use it
[03:47] <apokryphos> sethk: impossible :P
[03:47] <lightbright> sethk: ah heheh!  so user error not Linux error :)
[03:47] <opnsrc> I didn't install anything on it
[03:47] <sethk> lightbright, yes, absolutely
[03:47] <opnsrc> Look, if I first login to root it asks for a pw
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I gave an example, not the command
[03:48] <nalioth> opnsrc: well, what you just described is entirely a security problem
[03:48] <Madpilot> opnsrc: you might want to reinstall the whole thing, then, and not mess with the root stuff in future...
[03:48] <Quequeg> lightbright, I think you should patch cmhod so that you can use 24-bit binary permissions.  Much cooler.
[03:48] <opnsrc> but unless I logout of root, if I switch over to another display and switch back, it doesn't ask
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I have a website for you to read before you do anything
[03:48] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: ok, what.
[03:48] <sethk> Quequeg, hey, why not 64  :)
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[03:48] <sethk> Quequeg, we can rewrite chmod again  :)
[03:48] <opnsrc> meaning I have to log out of root in order for it to ask
[03:48] <opnsrc> (no I'm sure it's just a setting)
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: and try this too: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.htm
[03:49] <opnsrc> BTW thanks everyone
[03:49] <sethk> opnsrc, out of the box, that's what happens.  You can only enter the root password when logged in as a normal non-root user
[03:49] <sethk> opnsrc, but, if you install in expert mode that's not true
[03:49] <lightbright> Quequeg: i am not a developer!  ask sethk , I believe he may be a contributer
[03:49] <kismet> does using apt-get screw up the Synaptic Package Manager?
[03:49] <sethk> kismet, it doesn't
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: the second site doesnt work, and id ont want to build my own distro! i want to make a read-only file *not* read-only so that sound will work in flash.
[03:49] <sethk> kismet, installing without using packages makes the database inconsistent with the machine
[03:49] <apokryphos> kismet: Synaptic is a front-end to APT
[03:50] <Quequeg> lightbright, I was joking that people use the number because they're cool, so binary would be *cooler*/more elite.  (sarcasm)
[03:50] <opnsrc> oh, it can't be changed
[03:50] <sethk> purplefeltangel, chmod a+w
[03:50] <opnsrc> uhm..... well thanks
[03:50] <sethk> chmod a+w filename
[03:50] <akonkwa> How can I install the cdrdao package?
[03:50] <theacolyte> disabled gdm via update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[03:50] <nalioth> akonkwa: use synaptic
[03:50] <apokryphos> akonkwa: fire up synaptic and select it for installation
[03:50] <sethk> akonkwa, I believe that's part of the cd write tools package
[03:51] <sethk> akonkwa, search for it in the package manager
[03:51] <jsherring> milksteak, any ideas? i get segfaults when i view any videos via firefox
[03:51] <jabbahut> Kinda new at this... Is there any benefit to compiling my kernel over just running the default installed 386 kernel? I'm on a Thinkpad with a P3.
[03:51] <sethk> akonkwa, in advanced mode
[03:51] <akonkwa> sethk: I've searched for it in synaptic, but I don't find it..
[03:51] <purplefeltangel> sethk: it still wont let me save it.
[03:51] <sethk> jabbahut, no, not really
[03:51] <theacolyte> jabbahut: you may see a difference, but it wouldn't be much
[03:51] <purplefeltangel> sethk: what should i do??
[03:51] <akonkwa> sethk : Ohj, I see
[03:51] <theacolyte> and it wouldn't be worth the days of recompiling
[03:51] <sethk> purplefeltangel, I didn't hear the entire story.  tell me what's happening again?
[03:51] <liable> jabbahut: no benifit really.
[03:52] <theacolyte> Ok -- I'm at the login screen without gdm in non-single user mode
[03:52] <jabbahut> cool - thanks guys
[03:52] <theacolyte> I'm thinking hte problem may lie within the xconfig itself
[03:52] <liable> theacolyte: startx?
[03:52] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ok. i want to make a file not read-only, so that i can edit it to make sound work in flash, and i did whatever lightbright told me to do, and now it gives me this message telling me it's an "executable text file" and it will let me edit hte file, but not save it.
[03:53] <sethk> purplefeltangel, oh, that's why you don't want to be using numbers.  :)
[03:53] <opnsrc> From what I'm reading it's safer to have a root pw
[03:53] <opnsrc> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26115.html
[03:53] <sethk> purplefeltangel, do   chmod a-x filename
[03:53] <akonkwa> sehtk : Ho do I get advanced mode?
[03:53] <opnsrc> Because if you don't, people can use sudo to compromise your system just with a regular user pw
[03:53] <opnsrc> but if you have one it'll ask for one first
[03:53] <sethk> akonkwa, file/advanced, after you do system/add applications
[03:53] <nalioth> opnsrc: the forums can be written into by anyone, it dosnt mean it's advisable
[03:53] <Corrupter> anyone know where to get realVNC for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <theacolyte> liable: greyscreen with an X, no WM loaded
[03:54] <theacolyte> can't switch screens again
[03:54] <theacolyte> geforce 6800 btw
[03:54] <ispiked> Corrupter: IIRC it's in synaptic.
[03:54] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ok, it doesnt display the "executable tex tfile" thing now but it still wont let me save it....now what?
[03:54] <liable> theacolyte: so its locked up?
[03:54] <burner> opnsrc, people can compromise if they have a user password of a user that has sudo privelege
[03:54] <theacolyte> liable: yes
[03:54] <liable> theacolyte: reconfigure x, try nv
[03:54] <sethk> purplefeltangel, sounds like it still isn't writable by you.   try:   chmod a+w filename
[03:54] <liable> theacolyte: or vesa
[03:54] <opnsrc> how do I get rid of sudo privelage?
[03:55] <_classic> i've been googling for the last 4hrs. how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:55] <opnsrc> or at least make it ask for a root pw first
[03:55] <liable> theacolyte: check logs, Xorg and .xsessionerrors
[03:55] <theacolyte> yup, gonna check that now
[03:55] <burner> opnsrc, users & groups... look in the checkboxes for "administrative tasks"
[03:55] <burner> opnsrc, and it's not advisable to have a root pw
[03:55] <nalioth> opnsrc: i think you are on your way to a broken machine. ubuntu is designed the way it is for a reason.
[03:55] <purplefeltangel> sethk: still doesnt work
[03:56] <purplefeltangel> how do i ignore a user?
[03:56] <robotgeek> purplefeltangel: /ignore nick
[03:56] <akonkwa> sehtk : I don't seem to have this potion. should I mention that I use hoary?
[03:56] <opnsrc> heh
[03:56] <purplefeltangel> robotgeek: i did that and it gave me an error and the person isnt ignored :/
[03:56] <opnsrc> why is it bad to have a root pw/
[03:56] <opnsrc> ?
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, it isn't, unless you abuse it
[03:57] <nalioth> opnsrc: because it's unnessary and makes it easier to hose your box
[03:57] <opnsrc> I don't plan to
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, the sudo command let's you restrict root access to specific commands
[03:57] <theacolyte> Well, it looks like it's using NV. Detected the card flawlessly. xsession-errors just shows some tcp connection problems (Non configured lan adapter)
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, so you are somewhat protected from yourself, _if_ you set it up carefully
[03:57] <theacolyte> GOing to try to reconfigure now
[03:57] <opnsrc> anywho, the only way to learn how to use a system is by ruining it
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, but if sudo can do everything that su can do, then sudo is actually worse
[03:57] <opnsrc> I've ruined windows so many times before I learned how not to
[03:58] <theacolyte> Is there a handy xorg configuration editor, or am I hacking at it with vi
[03:58] <sethk> opnsrc, my philosophy:  back up, then go to town  :)
[03:58] <opnsrc> I have mostly everything backed up on Cd's already
[03:58] <sethk> theacolyte, there are several, actually
[03:58] <liable> theacolyte: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:58] <sethk> opnsrc, have a production machine and a play machine
[03:58] <opnsrc> exactly
[03:58] <liable> theacolyte: dont hand edit otherwise dpkg wont work
[03:58] <sethk> opnsrc, if you are backed up, then all you risk is your time (to reinstall or revert or whatever)
[03:59] <opnsrc> I want to learn how to use linux
[03:59] <theacolyte> Never even used a debian based linux distro before, hehe, new(ish) territory
[03:59] <sethk> opnsrc, bang away.
[03:59] <JohnP789> I'm setting up a system for my little kid.  How can I disable all but one button on a per-user basis?
[03:59] <opnsrc> exactly
[03:59] <purplefeltangel> sethk: it still will not let me save that file; what should i do?
[03:59] <sethk> opnsrc, on my commercial products, I always have two builds.  The real build, and what I call the sandbox build
[03:59] <opnsrc> when I become good at this stuff I won't need to worry about now having a root pw
[03:59] <sethk> purplefeltangel, try   sudo chmod a+w  filename
[03:59] <opnsrc> not *
[03:59] <purplefeltangel> sethk: thats what i just did and it didnt work....
[04:00] <opnsrc> Linux is unix based right?
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, which editor are you using?
[04:00] <opnsrc> I want to buy a book or something
[04:00] <purplefeltangel> sethk: gedit
[04:00] <sethk> opnsrc, no, it's a unix look alike
[04:00] <SuperID> I've been told on #kdevelop that the version of kdevelop that I'm using (2.1) is woefully out of date, but according to synaptic I cannot upgrade.   Is there any way to get a current ver of kdevelop without too much pain?
[04:00] <opnsrc> I thought linux was built on unix
[04:00] <theacolyte> that's basically blaspheme opnsrc :P
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, some editors won't let you write if the file was read only when you started
[04:00] <opnsrc> Like Win98Se was built on DOS
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, I'd copy the file, paste it into some other file, and go to the command line and use cp
[04:00] <opnsrc> (ok, beter than how Win98SE was built)
[04:00] <purplefeltangel> sethk: what?
[04:00] <theacolyte> opnsrc: Some people would even get angry about someone saying that
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, I mean copy as in copy and paste
[04:00] <opnsrc> well sorry, I have no idea
[04:01] <opnsrc> That I could offend someone
[04:01] <sethk> purplefeltangel, open up some file in gedit that you can write to, copy and paste the text from the other.
[04:01] <purplefeltangel> sethk: yes.
[04:01] <Fushi> hehe
[04:01] <theacolyte> hehehe
[04:01] <opnsrc> sheesh
[04:01] <opnsrc> what's wrong with Unix?
[04:01] <purplefeltangel> sethk: but what about the command line??
[04:01] <opnsrc> I hear it's a solid OS
[04:01] <akonkwa> Where can i find a downlaod of  the JRE?
[04:01] <nalioth> sethk: please join us in #ubuntu-nun
[04:01] <burner> SuperID, try the 3.5rc1 repository of Kubuntu
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell akonkwa about javadebs
[04:01] <sethk> purplefeltangel, after you save your new file, say it is file2, then you do   cp file2 /path/to/file/you/couldn't/change
[04:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell akonkwa about javadebs
[04:02] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ah ok
[04:02] <Moco> Dang. I am trying to get Super Tux to work, but when I run "sudo super tux" it starts and then says that it can't load blackletters.png. I have all the png librarie installed.
[04:02] <theacolyte> opnsrc: http://www.google.com/search?q=history+of+linux
[04:02] <zapada_> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem?
[04:02] <burner> SuperID, sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[04:02] <SuperID> burner:   by adding a repository ?
[04:02] <burner> SuperID, try without another repository first
[04:02] <Phoul> Hello people is teher real player for ubuntu?
[04:02] <SuperID> burner:   k, thx
[04:02] <Moco> Yes Phoul
[04:02] <Phoul> How do i get it moco?
[04:03] <Phoul> I looked in synaptic
[04:03] <Phoul> Its not in there
[04:03] <burner> !tell phoul about realplayer
[04:03] <Moco> One sec.. Let me find it..
[04:03] <purplefeltangel> sethk: THANK YOU
[04:03] <purplefeltangel> sethk: it worked :DDDD
[04:03] <Ron_o> Phoul: yes..
[04:03] <Moco> What burner?
[04:03] <sethk> purplefeltangel, good.  :)
[04:03] <zapada_> !tell zapda about dialup modems
[04:03] <Ron_o> in synaptic package manager.
[04:03] <zapada_> !tell zapada about modems
[04:03] <Phoul> moco why does it say restricted?
[04:03] <zapada_> ffs
[04:03] <Phoul> in the URL
[04:03] <burner> Phoul, go to the URL :P
[04:03] <Moco> I don't know..
[04:03] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ....but sound still isn't working in flash. :/
[04:03] <ts2> How do you say HUMANITY in German?
[04:03] <sethk> purplefeltangel, that's a much more complicated thing
[04:04] <burner> purplefeltangel, you make the symlink like the wiki says?
[04:04] <sethk> :)
[04:04] <opnsrc> thanks
[04:04] <purplefeltangel> burner: what?
[04:04] <opnsrc> theacolyte thanks
[04:04] <burner> !tell purplefeltangel about flash
[04:04] <zapada_> !tell zapda about firefox
[04:04] <purplefeltangel> burner: i read that page and i did the thing it said and sound still isnt working.
[04:04] <burner> purplefeltangel, check that link and look for the "sound problems"
[04:04] <purplefeltangel> burner: it doesnt work.
[04:04] <Moco> Does the "!" mean do NOT ?
[04:04] <Discipulus> !tell me about firefox
[04:04] <yer> hey guys, im a debian kinda guy, but i just setup  a friend with ubuntu because ive been reading the ubuntu forums and it looks beter suited to the less "power" users..
[04:04] <yer> so my question is
[04:04] <burner> Moco, correct
[04:04] <zapada_> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem?
[04:05] <duncanm> hmm
[04:05] <Moco> Ok..
[04:05] <opnsrc> I still want to fix this thing where, if a root session is open anyone can login w/o a pw
[04:05] <yer> is there a good guide for ati drivers
[04:05] <yer> for like a 9800xt
[04:05] <duncanm> so i think i got an upgraded nvidia-glx the other day
[04:05] <burner> purplefeltangel, u have more than one sound card?
[04:05] <duncanm> i just restarted my machine and X stopped working, says the 'nvidia' module cannot be found
[04:05] <purplefeltangel> burner: dont think so
[04:05] <gee_cee0> hey just wondering, how would i share folders and allow other users with windows read/write?
[04:05] <klaxian> i just installed ubuntu onto one partition on my hard drive - another partition has windows on it and i want to dual-boot
[04:05] <Moco> Make a samba share gee_cee0
[04:05] <SuperID> burner:   worked perfectly, ty :)
[04:05] <gee_cee0> i downloaded samba
[04:05] <zapada_> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem?
[04:06] <klaxian> the grub configuration i'm trying isn't working
[04:06] <burner> SuperID, np
[04:06] <gee_cee0> and i shared the floder
[04:06] <klaxian> can anyone help?
[04:06] <gee_cee0> folder
[04:06] <liable> klaxian: dont they have instructions at the site?
[04:06] <gee_cee0> buy when the other computer tries to access the shared folders in my computer
[04:06] <Moco> Go to System-> Administration -> Share Folders
[04:06] <sethk> klaxian, what's happening?
[04:06] <klaxian> liable: yes, but that didn't work for me
[04:06] <burner> klaxian, what's the prolem?
[04:06] <Ron_o> klaxian, checkout the wiki.ubuntu site.
[04:06] <Moco> Ok, what is going on then gee_cee0?
[04:06] <gee_cee0> it comes up with a window: connect to localhost.localdomain
[04:06] <zapada_> <!HELP ALERT!> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem? <!HELP ALERT!>
[04:06] <klaxian> sethk: it says unable to boot device
[04:06] <klaxian> Ron_o: ok i will
[04:06] <gee_cee0> username and password
[04:07] <gee_cee0> no idea what to put in there
[04:07] <burner> gee_cee0, using samba?
[04:07] <gee_cee0> yea
[04:07] <zapada_> <!HELP ALERT!> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem? <!HELP ALERT!>
[04:07] <KingOfCyber> Hi all, the lower part of my gnome panel disappeared! How can i revive it?
[04:07] <burner> gee_cee0, and how are you 'connecting' to the other computer?
[04:07] <duncanm> weird
[04:07] <akonkwa> what do I do, once i've donwloaded th JRE package?
[04:07] <gee_cee0> double clicking... its in the same workgroup
[04:07] <yer> screw it. ill just fucking google it
[04:07] <burner> gee_cee0, i'd open nautilus... type "ctrl+l" and then type "smb://computername"
[04:07] <sethk> klaxian, that's too broad to say much about.   Can you post your grub.conf on a paste bot?
[04:07] <Moco> I forget the command, but you have to go in the terminal and do something like sudo samba password =
[04:07] <Moco> then enter password
[04:08] <gee_cee0> nautilus?
[04:08] <burner> !tell yer about ati
[04:08] <yer> thnx
[04:08] <burner> yer, quit bein whiny ;)
[04:08] <burner> gee_cee0, nautilus == file manager
[04:08] <gee_cee0> o ok :s
[04:08] <theacolyte> This just isn't healthy!
[04:09] <klaxian> i checked the wiki and i can't find anything to solve my problem...i have windows installed on one partition, but i can't boot to it from grub
[04:09] <yer> hahah burner
[04:09] <burner> klaxian, get an error?
[04:09] <gee_cee0> what does smb://othercomputername do?
[04:09] <burner> klaxian, sure you have the right partition selected?
[04:09] <klaxian> burner: yes i believe i do, but i tried a few
[04:09] <burner> gee_cee0, opens a samba connection to taht PC of course
[04:09] <purplefeltangel> whtop.
[04:09] <burner> gee_cee0, similar to \\othercomputername in windows
[04:09] <klaxian> burner: fdisk -l shows my windows partitions
[04:09] <gee_cee0> doesnt do anything
[04:09] <klaxian> burner: should be hda5 or hd0,4
[04:09] <klaxian> burner: right?
[04:10] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know any sound fixes for flash other than what it says in the Wiki because i have t ried that and it does not work
[04:10] <burner> hda5 == your windows?
[04:10] <theacolyte> try using the IP of the machine
[04:10] <gee_cee0> oh it works
[04:10] <klaxian> burner: yes -- NTFS
[04:10] <Moco> Dang. I am trying to get Super Tux to work, but when I run "sudo super tux" it starts and then says that it can't load blackletters.png. I have all the png libraries installed.
[04:10] <theacolyte> like \\10.0.0.5, etc
[04:10] <burner> klaxian, u can't have windows on a logical drive
[04:10] <gee_cee0> burner: now what
[04:10] <burner> klaxian, that's why it doesn't work
[04:10] <opnsrc> are there any login preferences
[04:10] <burner> gee_cee0, now browse and be happy ;)
[04:10] <gee_cee0> i  meant
[04:10] <opnsrc> For a user
[04:10] <klaxian> burner: ah, i remember that now...
[04:10] <gee_cee0> how to access my shares from a windows box
[04:10] <klaxian> burner: what do you suggest?
[04:10] <duncanm> hmm
[04:10] <klaxian> burner: i can't really delete windows at this point
[04:11] <Moco> Yeah, there is some command in the terminal where you set your SMB username/pass
[04:11] <klaxian> burner: although i'd like to
[04:11] <Moco> Can't remember though..
[04:11] <burner> gee_cee0, awww... from windows to linux?  on the iwndows box... do start, run, \\linuxcomputername
[04:11] <gee_cee0> ok... 1 sec
[04:11] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know any sound fixes for flash other than what it says in the Wiki because i have t ried that and it does not work
[04:11] <Moco> He needs help with the password and username combo I think..
[04:11] <burner> gee_cee0, also... open a term in linux and type "sudo smbpasswd -a username" to add a samba username and password :)
[04:11] <gee_cee0> it gives that window
[04:11] <Moco> That's the command I was thinking of. ;0
[04:11] <Moco> ;)
[04:11] <gee_cee0> connect to localhost.localdomain
[04:11] <duncanm> anyone know why i'm seeing this? (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[04:12] <gee_cee0> ahh
[04:12] <burner> gee_cee0, that's ok... can you try your linux username and password there?
[04:12] <gee_cee0> doesnt work
[04:12] <Moco> You have your monitor working duncanm?
[04:12] <gee_cee0> tried already lol
[04:12] <burner> gee_cee0, use that smbpasswd command then ;)
[04:12] <gee_cee0> kk doing it now
[04:12] <klaxian> burner: any way to move the NTFS partition to a physical partition?
[04:12] <Moco> You have to "sudo smbpasswd -a username" in terminal
[04:12] <liable> theacolyte: no luck?
[04:12] <burner> klaxian, as far as I know... windows likes to be on /dev/hda1 as well :\
[04:13] <gee_cee0> burner: whats the exact format of the command again?
[04:13] <burner> klaxian, u could try using gparted to move stuff around, but that might not work so well if your drives are very full
[04:13] <Moco> "sudo smbpasswd -a username"
[04:13] <gee_cee0> was it sudo smbpasswd -a john 12345
[04:13] <gee_cee0> no password?
[04:13] <burner> gee_cee0, nope... no password
[04:13] <gee_cee0> kk
[04:13] <klaxian> burner: i had debian installed on hda1 before and it was working fine
[04:13] <Phoul> Guys im reading the page
[04:13] <klaxian> burner: i'll see what i can do with qtparted
[04:13] <burner> klaxian, windows worked from a logical partition?
[04:13] <Phoul> And i added alot of the sources except for the horray one
[04:14] <Phoul> And i havnt found realplayer yet
[04:14] <gee_cee0> ok i set the password things
[04:14] <burner> klaxian, or... it was a physical... just not /dev/hda1?
[04:14] <gee_cee0> now i use that?
[04:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phoul about realplayer
[04:14] <Moco> Now try \\Computername
[04:14] <Moco> From your windows box
[04:14] <gee_cee0> omg it works lol
[04:14] <Phoul> I READ THAT!
[04:14] <gee_cee0> thanks guys
[04:14] <klaxian> burner: it may have been physical, just not hda1 - can i move it to a physical partition with qtparted?
[04:14] <moksha> ahh, free ubuntu cd bliss
[04:14] <Moco> np ;)
[04:14] <burner> Phoul, read harder ;) there's a direct download link
[04:14] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know any sound fixes for flash other than what it says in the Wiki because i have t ried that and it does not work
[04:15] <burner> gee_cee0, np :)
[04:15] <burner> klaxian, sure can
[04:15] <burner> klaxian, assuming you don't have them all used up of course :)  if you do... move linux to a logical... linux doesn't care :)
[04:15] <BigMonkey> Wierd problem: when I burn a self-created audio file (.wav) with K3B, it assigns the disk an arbitrary name, one I don't recognize.
[04:15] <Davethewave> I did apt-get update and upgrades, this last boot took forever.. does that mean something broke?
[04:16] <Moco> What burner are you using, BigMonkey?
[04:16] <burner> BigMonkey, give it a name specifically...
[04:16] <burner> Moco, he said k3b ;)
[04:16] <Moco> Oops.
[04:16] <BigMonkey> I did.  In both places. Give it a name
[04:16] <burner> Davethewave, not necessarily
[04:16] <SPCcrow> what is the best program to use to view wmv files in ubuntu?
[04:16] <klaxian> burner: yes, all are used up...i will try to move them
[04:16] <gee_cee0> next question guys out of interest, is it possible to access my shares from the windows box without entering a user/pw?
[04:16] <BigMonkey> Is perhaps Sound Juicer assigning an arbitrary name.
[04:17] <progbliss> What environment variables do I need to change when doing a cross-compile from amd64 to 32-bit, and what do I need to change about them?
[04:17] <burner> SPCcrow, debateable... works with totem, vlc, xine, mplayer, kaffeine, etc.
[04:17] <Davethewave> also, I go to System, then Administration, then Disks.. and nothing happens
[04:17] <burner> SPCcrow, just make sure you have w32codecs
[04:17] <burner> Davethewave, using dapper?
[04:17] <Quequeg> gee_cee0, map the share as a 'network drive' in explorer
[04:17] <SPCcrow> burner: have tried vlc, mplayer, totem and nothing will play, i think it might be a configuration issue, but i couldnt get it to work...
[04:17] <SPCcrow> burner: im sure i do, how can i check??
[04:17] <Davethewave> oh, the disks manager just launched, guess it was being slow
[04:18] <korhalf> Why do i get a black screen when trying to start up X?
[04:18] <Davethewave> it used to be fast, before the upgrades
[04:18] <burner> SPCcrow, open a term... apt-cache policy w32codecs
[04:18] <gee_cee0> Quequeg: ok... does that mean that any updates to my shares will appear in that network drive?
[04:18] <SPCcrow> ok
[04:18] <korhalf> i have a ati radeon 9550 with an nvidia nforce2 board
[04:18] <korhalf> i turned the internalagpart option to off
[04:18] <klaxian> burner: i suppose i have to boot from CD to use qtparted to move the partitions, right?
[04:18] <korhalf> and i still cant start it up..and i need 3d acceleration for Wolfenstein ET
[04:18] <Quequeg> gee_cee0, yes.  You might have to do a view/refersh, but it's as much 'real-time' as your other method.
[04:18] <SPCcrow> burner: should i sudo before it?
[04:18] <burner> klaxian, advisable to... got a livecd to do that?
[04:19] <burner> SPCcrow, no need
[04:19] <klaxian> burner: no, but i can download one...does gnoppix have gparted?
[04:19] <SPCcrow> <-- is a dumba**
[04:19] <Discipulus> Wow, it got quiet in here
[04:19] <burner> klaxian, i'd advise kanotix :)  qtparted is better than gparted
[04:19] <korhalf> Can anyone help?
[04:19] <Davethewave> how do I check the message log.. I forgot
[04:19] <nalioth> klaxian: use the ubuntu liveCD
[04:20] <klaxian> nalioth: ah, good idea :)
[04:20] <korhalf> Davethewave: sudo cat /var/log/messages | less
[04:20] <burner> korhalf, u checked the ati wiki page I assume?
[04:20] <korhalf> burner: indeed.
[04:20] <korhalf> burner: it doesnt inform me too much
[04:20] <burner> the ubuntu livecd has gparted?
[04:20] <manji> hey, i need help configuring php in apache, specifically on ubuntu...can anyone help?
[04:20] <Davethewave> kk
[04:20] <korhalf> burner: it seems nobody has this black screen hanging error
[04:20] <BigMonkey> Has anybody else had this 'arbitrary name' on burned audio happen?
[04:20] <SPCcrow> is w32codecs in the multiverse repos?
[04:20] <opnsrc> Uhm... by default Ubuntu responds to port scans that the ports are closed
[04:20] <gandalf> after using tar -cjvpf to make a bkup. do I use the r switch alone or whti the rest of the last to add to that tar ?
[04:20] <burner> korhalf, heh... other than that page, i have no idea :\  I only have a radeon 7000
[04:20] <burner> !w32codecs
[04:20] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:20] <korhalf> burner: but it works for you lol
[04:20] <burner> there you go SPCcrow :)
[04:21] <opnsrc> Is FTP login / any form of external login enabled by default?
[04:21] <opnsrc> If so I want to disable it
[04:21] <korhalf> burner: what are some edits that you did to your config?
[04:21] <korhalf> burner: and do you have 3d acceleration?
[04:21] <SPCcrow> burner: thanks...
[04:21] <psusi> opnsrc, no
[04:21] <burner> korhalf, it works... but a radeon 7000 is arse... i can't even run warcraft3 at a decent speed
[04:21] <opnsrc> good
[04:21] <opnsrc> is there a way I can run a firewall?
[04:21] <burner> korhalf, i do
[04:21] <sethk> ganadist, no dash with tar.  dash with tar is an error, although it is tolerated.  that's the root of your confusion
[04:21] <opnsrc> Or at least stealth ports by default
[04:21] <psusi> opnsrc, no need
[04:21] <burner> opnsrc, check out firestarter
[04:21] <opnsrc> okk
[04:21] <manji> hey can anyone help with getting postgresql to qork with php on ubuntu?
[04:21] <opnsrc> thanks
[04:21] <theacolyte> liable: I got it to work via VESA
[04:22] <zerozader> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu on a system of mine, and I've got a couple questions. :-)
[04:22] <gandalf> do I need to add anything besides -r to add files to a tar ?
[04:22] <theacolyte> Definately a video card incompatibility, which is odd, I have a GeForce 6800 -- when I get my WiFI up I'll update the drivers and give it a whirl
[04:22] <psusi> it's only polite to reject connection attempts to closed ports... it's closed so it doesnt' really help anyone attack you..
[04:22] <SPCcrow> burner: should i put main/universe/ or multicerse at the end in sources.list
[04:22] <BigMonkey> burner, any idea about this k3b thing?
[04:22] <zerozader> 1) How do I customize my destop (add the trash, home directory, etc.) 2) Is there an easy utility to configure "Internet Connection Sharing"?
[04:22] <Davethewave> maybe I will restart again, see if it clears up.. it's acting like it has to read every-thing 200 times hehe
[04:22] <burner> SPCcrow, w32codecs is not in a repository... did you check that link? :P
[04:23] <burner> BigMonkey, none sorry :\
[04:23] <SPCcrow> was going to add that to sources.list
[04:23] <burner> BigMonkey, try serpentine :)
[04:23] <nalioth> SPCcrow: it is not a repository, it is a direct download
[04:23] <burner> SPCcrow, follow the link
[04:23] <SPCcrow> thanks..
[04:23] <BigMonkey> burner - have you ever heard of the problem?
[04:23] <burner> BigMonkey, never... check bugzilla?
[04:24] <Phoul> Guys i have realplayer just when i click on a stream i need it to open with real player in firefox how do i do this
[04:24] <Phoul> Because it wont run in totem
[04:24] <korhalf> burner: where would Option MonitorLayout go
[04:25] <Skullb0x>  identify k0r3dump
[04:25] <korhalf> burner: the wiki actually does mention my problem, seem slike theres a COUPLE of solutions so
[04:25] <burner> Phoul, real player works in totem for me :)  but what you need to do is change the preferences of firefox to open .smil or .rm files with realplayer
[04:25] <BigMonkey> burner - thanks, will try both.
[04:25] <SPCcrow> burner: its dpkg -i ::deb:: right?? sorry, not used to debian systems...
[04:25] <burner> SPCcrow, sure is
[04:25] <Phoul> Burner its a wma file tho...
[04:25] <Phoul> Its odd
[04:25] <Skullb0x> i have just connected my 40 gig removable drive to this computer.. it says my user doesn't have write permission only read.. how do i enable him write permissions?
[04:25] <burner> Skullb0x, is it formatted NTFS?
[04:25] <Phoul> Like the url for its odd
[04:25] <Skullb0x> burner, i believe so yes
[04:25] <Phoul> But the file that i want to open with it is a wma
[04:26] <korhalf> burner: what gui? and also, o you know where Option MonitorLayout would go?
[04:26] <burner> Phoul, get w32codecs
[04:26] <SPCcrow> burner: why do you want a "fancy gui"?
[04:26] <logical_mark> Hey guys, I want to take a video and encode it for quicktime playback. What program can do that under linux?
[04:26] <burner> korhalf, i don't
[04:26] <Phoul> w32codecs?
[04:26] <burner> SPCcrow, so newbs can double click .deb files and away it goes ;)
[04:26] <logical_mark> Phoul was that for me?
[04:26] <korhalf> fuck, does anyone know where Option MonitorLayout goes?
[04:26] <burner> !tell Phoul about w32codecs
[04:26] <korhalf> can someone grep their xorg.conf file at least.
[04:26] <SPCcrow> but that takes the fun out of your life eh?
[04:26] <Skullb0x> i did chown username /media/drive, but i still don't have write permissions
[04:26] <burner> korhalf, google is your friend for this one ;)
[04:27] <opnsrc> There are no options to choose whether switching from one active user to another requires a pw or not?
[04:27] <burner> opnsrc, it always requires a password unless you're root
[04:27] <chazz> Does anyone know why the kernel might not install properly while installing Ubuntu 5.10? I mean, its just trying to 'install' it right? Not load it up or anything..?
[04:28] <sethk> burner, unless an account has no password, but that still can't be selected.  :)
[04:28] <Skullb0x> i only have deb-src dr-x------
[04:28] <opnsrc> Doesn't seem logical
[04:28] <Phoul> burner what do they do?
[04:28] <opnsrc> but thanks
[04:28] <opnsrc> Root should require one
[04:28] <Skullb0x> er i only have dr-x------  permissions to the drive
[04:28] <burner> Phoul, lets you play wma files of course
[04:28] <Phoul> mmmm
[04:28] <Phoul> Okay
[04:28] <sethk> opnsrc, why would you want to be able to switch accounts without the password?
[04:28] <robotgeek> opnsrc: root is god. root can do anything :)
[04:28] <SPCcrow> "got root?"
[04:28] <andrew> Hi
[04:28] <opnsrc> active accounts
[04:29] <andrew> I'm having locale problems after my dist-upgrade
[04:29] <opnsrc> and I want there to be a pw to switch to root
[04:29] <burner> Skullb0x, chmod it   "chmod +rw /mount/point"
[04:29] <Phoul> Uhh burner?
[04:29] <duncanm> anyone using the nvidia drivers here?
[04:29] <opnsrc> As I said, when first logging in there is
[04:29] <opnsrc> but once it's active, if you switch to another account and switch back there is none
[04:29] <Phoul> do i do like apt-get install w32codecs?
[04:29] <opnsrc> I remember somewhere there are login options
[04:29] <andrew>  can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[04:29] <andrew>  | Any help for fixing the locale? Perl bitches about it too
[04:29] <burner> Phoul, did you even follow that link?
[04:29] <SPCcrow> !w32codecs
[04:29] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:29] <burner> sheesh
[04:29] <Phoul> mMmm
[04:29] <opnsrc> (but if you switch back to the other account from root, it asks)
[04:29] <Phoul> Okay
[04:30] <nalioth> burner: please dont advise permission changes on directories not owned by the user
[04:30] <burner> nalioth, it was owned by him.. he chowned it
[04:30] <chazz> ok actually I checked dmesg and it has bad media errors, but I had k3b verify the data and the md5 matched up.. and I haven't had problems with burning cds or reading them on this particular drive at any previous time..
[04:30] <nalioth> burner: i didnt see the directory involved , which one was it?
[04:31] <nalioth> burner: no no. Skullb0x has a fstab issue, not a permission issue
[04:31] <duncanm> hey nalioth, can you help me with a question about the nvidia drivers?
[04:31] <burner> nalioth, got me ;)  i didn't ask... i am guessing his/her usb drive is formatted NTFS rather than anything else
[04:31] <nalioth> burner: changing the perms in /media/* won't work
[04:32] <burner> nalioth, it works temporarily
[04:32] <duncanm> hey jdub?
[04:32] <nalioth> burner: no it doesnt, cuz the mounted drive still has been mounted with no-entry perms
[04:32] <Phoul> ARG i downloaded it and unpacked it with the dpkg -i thing and i still cant open the wma and i know the wma works to!
[04:33] <burner> nalioth, possibly... but not necessarily... could just be the mount point itself is b0rkd
[04:33] <nalioth> Phoul: microsoft changes their codecs all the time
[04:33] <burner> Phoul, try opening it with totem?
[04:33] <Phoul> I did tho
[04:33] <nalioth> burner: usually problems in /media/ or /mnt/ are in the fstab, not system perms
[04:33] <burner> Phoul, do you have "totem-xine" ??
[04:33] <burner> nalioth, very true... i'll say it... you're right, i'm wrong ;)
[04:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone else have problems with wifi radar hanging?
[04:34] <nalioth> burner: it's not about being right, using "chmod" on those dirs can damage the box
[04:34] <logical_mark> Phoul was that for me?
[04:34] <opnsrc> I just found out my DSL modem allows https logins
[04:34] <logical_mark> Hey guys, I want to take a video and encode it for quicktime playback. What program can do that under linux?
[04:34] <burner> nalioth, i hear ya
[04:34] <korhalf> burner, this sucks.
[04:34] <opnsrc> thanks to the ubuntu port scanner
[04:34] <korhalf> burner, i give up lol, no 3d acceleration
[04:35] <nalioth> logical_mark: you'll need libquicktime1 for sure, but i dont know any video encoding programs
[04:35] <burner> logical_mark, kino
[04:35] <BrownMan> Hey, does anyone want to give me a walkthrough about changing your desktop theme?
[04:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone else have problems with wifi radar hanging?
[04:35] <logical_mark> burner, thanks I will check it out!
[04:36] <logical_mark> nalioth, you're always here to help! Thanks again!
[04:36] <logical_mark> later guys
[04:36] <burner> BrownMan, open "theme" and pick a new one ;)
[04:36] <BrownMan> No like
[04:36] <BrownMan> building your own from art.gnome.com
[04:36] <BrownMan> org
[04:36] <burner> BrownMan, download... drag 'n' drop .tar.gz file onto "themes"
[04:36] <duncanm> anyone using nvidia-glx here?
[04:36] <BrownMan> What is a .tar.gz file?  Is that like a .zip?
[04:36] <korhalf> burner, hate ATI
[04:37] <duncanm> it stopped working after i upgraded
[04:37] <burner> speaking of wifi apps... has anyone tried nm-applet?  aka network-manager
[04:37] <burner> BrownMan, sure is... you'll notice all themes you download from art.gnome.org are that way
[04:37] <BrownMan> Good intel, thanks
[04:38] <DaSkreech> How do I use Dapper?
[04:38] <DaSkreech> :-D
[04:38] <DaSkreech> !usplash
[04:38] <ubotu> I heard usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[04:38] <burner> DaSkreech, msg ubotu from now on :P
[04:38] <darkheart> Can you not play mp3s with the Live CD?
[04:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> so everyone has wifi-radar working correctly? or do you use something else?
[04:38] <burner> darkheart, nope
[04:38] <nalioth> darkheart: you can, but you have to enable mp3 first
[04:39] <DaSkreech> burner: It useful info for all :-)
[04:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darkheart about mp3
[04:39] <d03boy> yo dudes, i upgraded to breezy and now I get xorg problems when I boot up but I cant view the log because it sends me to some prompt and causes some wierd visualizatino problems
[04:39] <Tedd> Anybody know about speaker systems and linux
[04:39] <darkheart> nalioth Thanks. Hehe, it's for a friend (I don't have the trouble of deciding which OS I want to use ;)
[04:39] <andrew> ubotu: tell andrew about mp3
[04:39] <Tedd> I have four speakers, and all the plugs are in correctly but only two are working right
[04:40] <burner> andrew, /msg ubotu mp3
[04:40] <andrew> Yeah I have to register :P
[04:41] <Tedd> ANybody have an idea?
[04:41] <DaSkreech> I do
[04:42] <Quenyar> trying to install jre for firefox, faq says fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin and my 5.10 system responds bash: fakeroot: command not found
[04:42] <Brunellus> how do I get the gnome bug reporting application to use my ISP's SMTP server isntead of sendmail??
[04:42] <DaSkreech> What if we were to add in a device module that returned the HID strings to users so they could submit info
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Quenyar about javadebs
[04:42] <opnsrc> thanks everyone
[04:42] <nalioth> Quenyar: command not found = "install missing command"
[04:42] <d03boy> Quenyar: you need to install fakeroot
[04:43] <Phoul> Burner
[04:43] <Phoul> Thanks a bunch
[04:43] <Phoul> :)
[04:43] <fanopnaic> does anybody remember the HOWTO for ubuntu on old/slow hardware (I recall it mentioned to use IceWM)
[04:43] <sbtoddd> hi everyone, I have a stupid intel i810 integrated video card and am trying to get upower to work. its installed and everything but I dont see an image. I even tried the video=i810fb since vga=xxx dont work cuz it dont support vesafb. I have debugging from running "sudo upower boot" that says /dev/fd0 doesnt exist and such. Any ideas?
[04:43] <Brunellus> Evolution has just crashed, and I want to send a bug report.  Gnome is offering to prepare one for me.  I know this will fail, because it will use sendmail and not the SMTP server.  how do I get it to file a successful bug report?
[04:44] <MikeStyle> Hi everyone, i was wondering how to set up transparencies/shadows in gnome?
[04:44] <burner> fanopnaic, best bet is to use the "server" install and add apps from there... xubuntu-desktop might work well
[04:44] <Tedd> DaSkreech: ?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Tedd: Well it's an idea
[04:44] <burner> Tedd, DaSkreech was being fecetious
[04:44] <MikeStyle> i was wondering how to set up transparencies/shadows in gnome?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> The Device info is rubbish in Ubuntu
[04:44] <Tedd> Oh, weak.
[04:45] <burner> MikeStyle, we heard you the first time i think
[04:45] <cedric> how do i had the backports repositories
[04:45] <burner> !backports
[04:45] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[04:45] <Quenyar> OK, did that (installed fakeroot) now it responds  line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[04:45] <cedric> thx :)
[04:45] <Brunellus> ! bug reports
[04:45] <ubotu> Brunellus: I give up, what is it?
[04:45] <burner> Quenyar, when fakeroot didn't work, you installe that... now take a guess ;)
[04:45] <burner> sorry Brunellus
[04:46] <Brunellus> I have a hard time believing that *nobody* files bug reports
[04:46] <Nikyo> How do I make XMMS the default Media Player in Ubuntu?
[04:46] <burner> Quenyar, why are you building java anyway when a package exists?
[04:46] <sbtoddd> anyone?
[04:46] <B_166-ER-X> my bro, on breezy ubuntu wants to read a dvd , but all player says its scrambled/encrypted, seems we need a libdvdcss , but its not in the repos ?
[04:46] <d03boy> I will stab you in the eye.
[04:46] <nalioth> Brunellus: most users (new to *nix) have no clue what a bug report is (unless it's on the evening news)
[04:46] <burner> Nikyo, right click .mp3 file... properties, open with tab
[04:46] <MikeStyle> ....?
[04:46] <opnsrc> ubuntu supports IPv6?
[04:46] <Brunellus> nalioth:  see, I want to file a bug report.  I really do.  really.
[04:46] <fanopnaic> burner: well, thanks.
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Brunellus:
[04:46] <nalioth> d03boy: may we help you with that?
[04:47] <burner> !tell B_166-ER-X about dvd
[04:47] <Quenyar> burner :  package name, please
[04:47] <Nikyo> For audio streams?
[04:47] <Brunellus> DaSkreech: what?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[04:47] <cedric> aw sweet now using 2.6.12
[04:47] <DaSkreech> ?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> How?
[04:47] <seth_k|lappy> B_166-ER-X, you'll need to do this:
[04:47] <seth_k|lappy> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[04:47] <seth_k|lappy> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[04:47] <opnsrc> how do I find out if I have an IPv6 address?
[04:47] <opnsrc> Or how do I use it?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[04:48] <justin_> hi
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Ah better
[04:48] <insmod0> If you question if you have one, you don't.
[04:48] <d03boy> Can anyone tell me what to do if I upgrade to breezy and then end up having xorg errors?
[04:48] <UncleD> I'm currently using Trubuntu, the new dev project with the KDE mods and wanted to see if anyone had info on the latest packet dissasembly base structure for HTTPS modules
[04:49] <Skullb0x> anyone able to apt-get --build source wine to work when trying to install wine on the x64 version of ubuntu
[04:49] <cedric> when will xubuntu be available on cds
[04:49] <justin_> i need someone to tell me step by step how to extract a splitted up ace compressed file
[04:49] <UncleD> opnsrc, if you dont know whether or not you have an ipv6 address, you wont find out by scanning your harddrive.
[04:49] <justin_> i need the deb for it too
[04:49] <UncleD> youll need to config it on named too
[04:49] <cafuego> Skullb0x: Any reason why that should work? At all?
[04:49] <nalioth> Skullb0x: it's "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" and then "sudo apt-get -b source wine
[04:50] <nalioth> justin_: install unace-nonfree
[04:50] <DaSkreech> opnsrc: try typing ipconfig on the terminal
[04:50] <Quenyar> can anyone point me to a procedure to install java for firefox on 5.10 that works and doesn't ask me to build java when a package exists?
[04:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Quenyar about javadebs
[04:50] <Brunellus> DaSkreech:  yeah, but that doesn't help me directly
[04:50] <burner> Quenyar, did you get my message?
[04:50] <Brunellus> I'm not talking about "what to do if I find a bug"
[04:50] <cafuego> nalioth: there is no amd64 wine
[04:50] <nalioth> Quenyar: please check your private msgs
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Brunellus: Ah what are you trying to do?
[04:50] <cafuego> nalioth: and thuse no source either
[04:50] <Brunellus> I'm talking about "how do I get the bug reporting app to file a bug"?
[04:50] <nalioth> cafuego: he's building from source
[04:50] <B_166-ER-X> seth_k|lappy libdvdread3 wont change anything... its still complaining about libdvdcss , i'm trying to find it on the page provided by uboto
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Ah
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Don't know never used it :)
[04:50] <seth_k|lappy> B_166-ER-X, there are two steps
[04:50] <Brunellus> the GNOME bug app does the backtrace and formats everhthing
[04:51] <seth_k|lappy> B_166-ER-X, notice the second step I pasted
[04:51] <Brunellus> so I want to forward a bug with real backtraces
[04:51] <Brunellus> instead of
[04:51] <seth_k|lappy> B_166-ER-X, it downloads and installs libdvdcss2
[04:51] <nalioth> cafuego: you gotta be kidding me, i can build wine on my powerpc
[04:51] <Brunellus> "OMFGZ, EVOLUTION IS TEH SUK"
[04:51] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[04:51] <cafuego> nalioth: Does it actually run anything? 'apt-cache search wine' only gets me 'xwine'.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Poin taken
[04:51] <skaja> how can i do a apt-get on ubuntu using a debian cd to install things
[04:51] <DaSkreech> I think it should dump the data somewhere
[04:51] <zcat[1] > ummm.. wine is a wrapper, you might be able to build wine on a ppc but can you make Wintel software run under it?
[04:51] <Brunellus> yeah, DaSkreech
[04:52] <psusi> skaja, you don't
[04:52] <DaSkreech> possibly in your home dir
[04:52] <cafuego> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:52] <Brunellus> but it wnats to use sendmail to forward it to the right place
[04:52] <nalioth> cafuego: i've run both build-dep and -b source on wine and it's running fine
[04:52] <purplefeltangel> my friend says that Esound will make sound work in Flash....will this work?
[04:52] <Brunellus> and because I am a lazy bastard
[04:52] <cafuego> No such beasty. Amd64 wouldn't be able to do the 32bit calls without a chroot anyway
[04:52] <nalioth> cafuego: it probably WONT work, but it should build
[04:52] <psusi> skaja, you need the ubuntu packages
[04:52] <Brunellus> I want to use the nice, convenient, bug reporting tool the gnome devs have givenme
[04:52] <burner> purplefeltangel, try it... run "esd"
[04:52] <Skullb0x> even doing "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" and then "sudo apt-get -b source wine" I still get an error and it craps out
[04:52] <Brunellus> and I really don't want to have to report a bug on the bug reporter
[04:52] <Brunellus> because then it's just silly
[04:52] <purplefeltangel> burner: it is already installed?
[04:52] <cafuego> Skullb0x: it won't _run_ anwyay, so building it is pointless.
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Not really sure
[04:53] <Skullb0x> so there's no way of getting windows apps to run in Linux?
[04:53] <burner> purplefeltangel, of course... it's how you get sound out of gnome and rhythmbox and other such apps
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Gimmie a few
[04:53] <nalioth> Skullb0x: not on amd64 linux, not really
[04:53] <cafuego> Skullb0x: You can run wine on a 32bit chroot under the 64bit system.
[04:53] <burner> purplefeltangel, chances are it's running if rhythmbox works
[04:53] <zcat[1] > on amd64 they should still run just fine as 32bit ?
[04:53] <Skullb0x> cafuego, how do i do that?
[04:53] <cafuego> if you need windoze apps, wipe and install i386 Linux.
[04:53] <purplefeltangel> burner: yeah. i dont think this guy has any idea what hes talking about.
[04:53] <psusi> Ummmm... wine runs on amd64 I'm prety sure
[04:53] <d03boy> how do I use this crazy wiki thing? I dont want to search, i jus twant a list of allt eh pages
[04:53] <cafuego> psusi: No, it doesn't.
[04:54] <psusi> why not?
[04:54] <burner> purplefeltangel, see if it's running first :)  run 'gnome-system-monitor' to see processes
[04:54] <cafuego> Don't ask me, I didn't author it.
[04:54] <Quenyar> burner which one should I choose, the sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+09. or the sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+up.?  When I have downloaded them, what do I to to install it?  When that is done, do I follow the remaining step in the faq for installing the firefox plugin?
[04:54] <cafuego> I just know it doesn't run when I try it <heh>
[04:54] <zcat[1] > can you not mix 64bit and 32 bit code?
[04:54] <TechGeek> hi every one
[04:54] <d03boy> Quenyar: the 1.5 is the latest version and is backwards compatible
[04:54] <cafuego> zcat[1] : No, you can't.
[04:54] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. 'k
[04:54] <burner> Quenyar, sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re.....deb
[04:54] <Skullb0x> would i386 ubuntu run as quick as 64ubuntu
[04:54] <cafuego> zcat[1] : Well, not as easily as you might assume anuwau
[04:54] <DaSkreech> d03boy: Try More actions -> Local Site map
[04:54] <psusi> cafuego, you can run it in a chroot can't you?
[04:55] <nalioth> Skullb0x: of course
[04:55] <cafuego> Skullb0x: For pretty much any day-to-day tasks yes.
[04:55] <psusi> zcat[1] , not in one process you can't
[04:55] <d03boy> DaSkreech: thanks, I will have your children.
[04:55] <Skullb0x> so then i386 is the way to go
[04:55] <TechGeek> I am new to unbuntu ( actually I have ran Mandrake/mandraive for a while ) I was thinking of going to gentoo ...but installing it has been not easy @ all ...so I am trying unbuntu
[04:55] <justin_> im having an error
[04:55] <justin_> E: Couldn't find package unace-nonfree
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Take them please
[04:55] <Nikyo> I figured it out.. xmms is in /usr/bin.. now I just made it the default plyer for shoutcast audio streams, cool!
[04:55] <cafuego> Skullb0x: 64bit would be faster if you did a LOT of compiling or ran a large sql server.
[04:55] <zcat[1] > so you can't run 32 bit wine under 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:55] <cafuego> zcat[1] : Not without a 32bit chroot, no.
[04:55] <burner>  justin_ did you try just using hte package "unace" ?
[04:55] <Skullb0x> so i gotat download and install i386 then!
[04:56] <justin_> sorry..what?
[04:56] <TechGeek> I have 2 main questions ...1st . is it easy to do updates ( or have them done automatically as in windows) ? and 2nd is dual booting easy as with lilo/grub ?
[04:56] <purplefeltangel> burner: ok, it isnt running..... :/
[04:56] <purplefeltangel> burner: i tried to run esd but it gave me an error
[04:56] <zcat[1] > hmm.. ok.
[04:56] <dazvid> TechGeek, 1. Yes. 2. Yes. :)
[04:56] <purplefeltangel> burner: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[04:56] <TechGeek> dazvid: thank you :)
[04:56] <Bac9> tali: ping
[04:57] <burner> wow.. beats the crap outta me purplefeltangel... anyone else?
[04:57] <TechGeek> is it okay if I just stay here and idel ? and ask random unbuntu question if I need help and I cant find it on the web ?
[04:57] <dazvid> TechGeek, a little icon appears in the notify area, and tells you to update. You just enter your password, and click "Update!" and it does everything for you
[04:57] <psusi> what is the point of having seperate /lib64 and /lib32 if you can't install 32bit software on a 64 bit system?
[04:57] <burner> TechGeek, seems to be the trend ;)
[04:57] <TechGeek> dazvid; awesome ...thanks !! :)
[04:57] <Brunellus> DaSkreech:  want to see a screenshot of where it all goes wrong?
[04:57] <TechGeek> burner: okay I wanted to ask some server/chan's dont like people ideling in their rooms
[04:57] <purplefeltangel> burner: rhythmbox isnt working, but itw as before....
[04:57] <logical_mark> nalioth, I tried kino but it wont let me add a quicktime movie to the storyboard to encode...
[04:58] <purplefeltangel> burner: but i dont know hat i did to make it work....
[04:58] <burner> purplefeltangel, esd was prolly running before ;)
[04:58] <purplefeltangel> burner: yeah
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Brunellus: Takes too long to describe?
[04:58] <purplefeltangel> so how come it was working then but not now?
[04:58] <burner> purplefeltangel, again... beats me... restart? ;)
[04:58] <nalioth> logical_mark: i'm not much on video editing/authoring
[04:58] <purplefeltangel> burner: ok.... :/
[04:58] <sethk> TechGeek, of course you can idle.  In my opinion both of those things are easy.  In fact, you don't have to do anything; ubuntu sets up dual boot if windows is installed first, and sets up the update thing
[04:58] <Brunellus> DaSkreech:  quicker just to show you, since you've never seen the bugbuddy app before, allegedly
[04:58] <Brunellus> http://static.flickr.com/29/66987246_5cc3076827_o.png
[04:59] <Brunellus> note where it says "mail setup" and "use sendmail directly"
[04:59] <burner> logical_mark, http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/06/1836210
[04:59] <zcat[1] > use mencoder and convert all your clips to the correct format (dvi?) perhaps?
[04:59] <TechGeek> sethk: awesome :)
[04:59] <Brunellus> is there any way to point sendmail to my SMTP server?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Right and you don't have a pop3 email I take it?
[04:59] <Brunellus> DaSkreech, yes I do
[04:59] <zcat[1] > I wanted to use kino myself, but it was too much work!!
[04:59] <burner> Brunellus,  save to a file and send manually?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> SMTP sorry
[04:59] <Brunellus> not on this box
[05:00] <Brunellus> I use my ISP's smtp server
[05:00] <Brunellus> burner:  yeah, but it seems bloody useless to have a nice app like that and then jsut have me send an e-mail bug report again.
[05:00] <sethk> Brunellus, you point your mail tool at the smtp server.  not sendmail
[05:00] <burner> Brunellus, at least it generates the report :\
[05:00] <Sparky_> Hi All..
[05:00] <burner> lol @ sethk
[05:00] <Brunellus> ok sethk.  how would I do that?
[05:01] <mc|amb> hi, could someone tell me how to access my windows (ntfs) partition?
[05:01] <sethk> Brunellus, in all the mail clients I've used, there is a place for configuring send, and you add the mail server.  just exactly like in windows
[05:01] <G2k> hey guys what program can i use to record audio?
[05:01] <Brunellus> sethk: what if the bug *is* the mail client?
[05:01] <zcat[1] > G2k, audacity
[05:01] <burner> G2k, Sound Recorder?
[05:02] <Projext> G2k: audacity
[05:02] <Sparky_> me|amb: try mounting it.
[05:02] <sethk> Brunellus, since there are many mail clients, use another one.
[05:02] <burner> just a guess ;)
[05:02] <G2k> thnx
[05:02] <G2k> i'll give it a try
[05:02] <purplefeltangel> burner: well evidently it is working now because it made the most HORRIBLE noise when i logged in.
[05:02] <mc|amb> Sparky_ : thats what I meant, sorry
[05:02] <purplefeltangel> scared the crap out of me.
[05:02] <williak> hello everone. I am a ubuntu fan but I'm having install problems. Can someone help?
[05:02] <TechGeek> okay I got a stupid question while this ISO Downloads, how is unbuntu compared to gentoo ( every one I know who has gentoo raves about it ) personally I learned Mandrake/mandriva and rave abotu that, suse comes in second by I want to try something that is a bit more of challenge( dont ask what that means please)
[05:02] <burner> purplefeltangel, good :)
[05:03] <purplefeltangel> burner: buuuut..... sound is still not working in flash.
[05:03] <Sparky_> TechGeek: Ubuntu isn't much of a challenge, technically..
[05:03] <nalioth> williak: ask your question to the channel
[05:03] <zcat[1] > TechGeek, there's no challenge in ubuntu, it's the most working distro I ever tried.
[05:03] <Brunellus> ok better question.  has anyone here *ever* used the bug report app?
[05:03] <mc|amb> what's the commando for mounting a NTFS partition??
[05:03] <purplefeltangel> burner: and now sound isn't working at all!
[05:03] <purplefeltangel> burner: it's like when i run firefox and/ or flash, esd stops running....
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mc|amb about easymount
[05:03] <Sparky_> me|amb: try using the mount command to mount the hard drive partition that is your NTFS partition
[05:03] <mc|amb> nalioth, thnks
[05:04] <zeeky> hello?
[05:04] <Nikyo> heelo
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Shhhhh
[05:04] <Sparky_> hello zeeky
[05:04] <DaSkreech> We are trying to sleep
[05:04] <zeeky> hey it aint dead
[05:04] <zeeky> cool
[05:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:04] <logical_mark> burner, how do I install a .tar.gz file? I just downloaded the latest version of kino
[05:04] <DaSkreech> 586 dead people
[05:04] <nalioth> logical_mark: you dont install it, you build it
[05:04] <williak> Evertime i try to install ubuntu it corrupts my partitions. I have 3 OS on one drive: Win98, Winxp and BeOS
[05:05] <zeeky> ok i did the 1st part of the install of ubuntu
[05:05] <logical_mark> nalioth, how do I build it?
[05:05] <zcat[1] > you don't build it, you go find the same package in synaptic.
[05:05] <nalioth> logical_mark: yes, you should look to synaptic first
[05:05] <zeeky> and when it dose the 2nt part it brings up some weird screen
[05:05] <Nikyo> have a good day/night all, thanks for being here, later. :-)
[05:05] <TechGeek> okay thanks zcat and Sparky_
[05:05] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Ever used the bug app?
[05:05] <burner> logical_mark, kino isn't available via apt-get?
[05:05] <zeeky> might be a gfx error or somthin
[05:05] <logical_mark> nalioth, I did, but it has an earlier version of kino
[05:05] <nalioth> DaSkreech: i have not
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Hmm Me either
[05:06] <nalioth> logical_mark: then join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you
[05:06] <logical_mark> burner, its the older version that is available in SPM
[05:06] <burner> logical_mark, awww... try the kubuntu 3.5 rc1 repository?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Should upgrade to dapper and give it a go :)
[05:06] <cedric> is there any place where i could install more ubuntu themes? ... i know how to change it... im just woundering if i can get more
[05:07] <cafuego> art.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <cafuego> art.gnome.org
[05:07] <cedric> thank you
[05:07] <logical_mark> burner, no I didnt but I dont knwo how to add that repository
[05:07] <zeeky> hey dose anyone know the refresh rate ububtu uses on the 2nt part of the install?
[05:07] <nalioth> cedric: install gnome-art from synaptic
[05:07] <burner> what version of kino do you need logical_mark ?
[05:08] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me fix sound problems on flash?
[05:08] <burner> purplefeltangel, it still doens't work?
[05:08] <purplefeltangel> burner: nope
[05:08] <zeeky> dose anyone here have ubuntu working on there comp?
[05:09] <llODxCOll> me
[05:09] <burner> lol@zeeky
[05:09] <Sparky_> zeeky: yup..Kubuntu here..
[05:09] <purplefeltangel> uhh, i would assume most of us.
[05:09] <Projext> no none of do we just like idling in channels
[05:09] <Projext> and by that i mean yes
[05:09] <zeeky> aww
[05:09] <williak> i don't. I can't install. Ubuntu install keeps corrupting partitions
[05:09] <zeeky> ya'll are leveing me out of the anti windows fun
[05:09] <zeeky> T_T
[05:10] <nalioth> zeeky: no we are all solaris users
[05:10] <purplefeltangel> go into #windows-xp :P
[05:10] <zeeky> lol
[05:10] <zeeky> i cant get ubuntu to work
[05:10] <zeeky> so i'm in here
[05:10] <zeeky> and i choldent find a #fr00b channal
[05:10] <burner> zeeky, google.com or wiki.ubuntu.com might be better than IRC
[05:10] <Sparky_> has a dual-boot setup on two of his computers...XP and Kubuntu. No problems except printing..and it's the fault of the printer, not Kubuntu..
[05:11] <zeeky> bah
[05:11] <zeeky> pepole here dont help
[05:11] <llODxCOll> i cant get my printer to work either
[05:11] <zeeky> i'm going to #stoned
[05:11] <llODxCOll> you never aksed anything
[05:11] <zeeky> i did
[05:11] <burner> zeeky, they help when you ask a question
[05:11] <llODxCOll> excactly
[05:12] <Sparky_> Burner, I've got a stupid printer--HPLJ1000. They're not supported under most flavors of Linux.. LOL
[05:12] <zeeky> i asked what is the refersh rate in the 2nt partof the install
[05:12] <burner> zeeky, can you get to a terminal?  ctrl+alt+f2?
[05:12] <zeeky> part of
[05:12] <zeeky> i cant install it
[05:12] <burner> zeeky, try using "server" install and then install ubuntu-desktop post-install
[05:12] <cafuego> zeeky: Normally when setting up X you can leave that response field blank.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> williak: Whats going on?
[05:13] <zeeky> ok i'll try that
[05:13] <llODxCOll> GAYSEX
[05:13] <burner> zeeky, actually... listen to cafuego first
[05:13] <williak> i tried to install ubuntu 3 times. each time it corrupted my partitions
[05:13] <cafuego> llODxCOll: try #troll
[05:13] <burner> cafuego > burner
[05:13] <d03boy> what are some sweet palm pilots that I should look at to get for xmas? I dont want a windows based one because windows sucks ass
[05:13] <zeeky> lol
[05:13] <seth_k|lappy> d03boy, Tungsten C is what I have
[05:13] <seth_k|lappy> it works perfectly in Ubuntu
[05:13] <d03boy> thanks
[05:13] <burner> d03boy, tungsten e is what i have :)
[05:13] <Sparky_> williak: try to keep your windows partitions under 8GB total.
[05:14] <cafuego> d03boy: I have a writing pad and pen, works fine in all weather conditions.
[05:14] <d03boy> cool
[05:14] <cafuego> (and they've NEVER crashed)
[05:14] <seth_k|lappy> haha
[05:14] <DaSkreech> What format is beos? Just for my curiosity
[05:14] <seth_k|lappy> or run out of battery life, cafuego ?
[05:14] <williak> none of them are over 8gb. Is it a problem to install ubuntu in the midddle of HD
[05:14] <cafuego> DaSkreech: does not compute
[05:14] <burner> cafuego, but it can't connect to wifi hotspots to download email :)
[05:14] <cafuego> seth_k|lappy: nope
[05:14] <Tedd> Can anyone help me? I have four speakers, all plugs in the right places, and only two work.
[05:15] <williak> Beos is EB it is foregn to windows and Linux
[05:15] <Tedd> Never happened on windows, just kinda irritating.
[05:15] <billgates> lol hi i luv windows
[05:15] <billgates> hehe
[05:15] <DaSkreech> cafuego: The BEos Parition on williak's hard drive
[05:15] <cafuego> Of, BeFS you mean?
[05:15] <billgates> lol whut is a ubuntu
[05:15] <beginxattraction> Hey, I have installed KDE onto Ubuntu, and wanted to know where I could find the repositories that I needed to add in order to have the same apt-get as Knoppix does...
[05:16] <cafuego> probably object oriented journaling
[05:16] <burner> beginxattraction, don't do that... knoppix uses debian... ubuntu and debian are not advisable to mix
[05:16] <williak> detail: I'm trying to install ubuntu between windows and Beos
[05:16] <beginxattraction> burner, well can you atleast tell me where I can download super karamba?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> so Windows 95, Windows Xp, Blank space, Beos
[05:17] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me get sound to work on flash
[05:17] <Davethewave> my system acts extreamly slow after i apt-get update and upgrade, I can't figuer out the problem, do I need to format? also what could have caused this?
[05:17] <williak> daskreech: yes
[05:17] <cafuego> williak: beos can provbably read/write FAT32... apart from that...
[05:17] <burner> !tell beginxattraction about repositories
[05:17] <burner> beginxattraction, check yer messages
[05:17] <pepsi> im trying to unmount a partition but it says its busy
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Far as I can recall you should always in stall beos last
[05:17] <nasimuto> how can i give 'user' root rights ?
[05:17] <pepsi> how do i found out why?
[05:17] <williak> cafuego: yes it can. Beos is not the problem
[05:17] <pepsi> nothing shows up in lsof
[05:17] <DaSkreech> nasimuto: Add them to the sudoers file
[05:18] <burner> nasimuto, give that "user" sudo privelege via the checkbox in "users and groups" that allows administrative tasks
[05:18] <DaSkreech> williak: What's the corruption that you are getting?
[05:18] <Quequeg> Davethewave, does 'top' show anything hogging CPU or memory?
[05:18] <oxez> Anyone have a Gravis Gamepad pro working? It's plugged to my soundcard (sb live! emu10k1). I can use "cat /dev/input/js0", and a lot of text appear even if I don't press a button. But if I press buttons on my controller the text stop displaying.. I'm just trying to get it running with zsnes
[05:18] <burner> !tell nasimuto about sudo
[05:18] <Tedd> Can anyone help me? I have four speakers, all plugs in the right places, and only two work.
[05:18] <Davethewave> no
[05:18] <Sparky_> Tedd: sounds driv ers...
[05:18] <cafuego> williak: Well, it's proprietary (and niche) so finding others that can read ITS partition format is probably not going to be easy.
[05:18] <cedric> nalioth thx gnome-art sound like a great deal
[05:19] <williak> during install partition utility ask me to select partitions. I do a manual partition.
[05:19] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me get sound to work on flash
[05:19] <Tedd> Sparky_: Those will work?
[05:19] <williak> I select partitions that used to hold redhat linux but i format them.
[05:19] <cafuego> williak: The kernel *should* be able to mount and at least *read* BEFS partitions.
[05:20] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Flash and ubuntu is an oft asked question. have you checked Google?
[05:20] <klaxian> burner: hey there again
[05:20] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: yes
[05:20] <williak> after selecting partitions. system writes to disk. Then trines to install grub.
[05:20] <burner> hola klaxian
[05:20] <cedric> wow many lib depends on this
[05:20] <nalioth> cedric: glad to help
[05:20] <Madpilot> cafuego: I can't see "befs" mentioned in man mount...
[05:20] <williak> grub install fails and partitions are corrupt
[05:20] <klaxian> burner: i guess gparted can't move an ntfs partitions from logical to primary partitions
[05:21] <klaxian> burner: any other ideas?
[05:21] <Sparky_> williak: where are you installing GRUB?
[05:21] <burner> klaxian, qtparted ;)
[05:21] <Davethewave> is there a way to "system restore" without formating?
[05:21] <cafuego> Madpilot: CONFIG_BEFS_FS=m
[05:21] <burner> klaxian, qtparted deals with NTFS partitions a lot better than gparted
[05:21] <klaxian> burner: haha i've always used that, but someone suggested the ubuntu live CD and it doesn't have qtparted ;)
[05:21] <williak> i tried to install it in a partition i created called /boot
[05:21] <cedric> what is those ruby thing? that's not the first time i saw them
[05:21] <beginxattraction> can someone tell me the text to put into a terminal to install a tarball?
[05:21] <burner> klaxian, i know :\  that's why i suggested kanotix ;)
[05:21] <klaxian> burner: haha ok
[05:21] <Sparky_> williak: Have you tried installing it in the MBR?
[05:21] <sethk> Davethewave, you can install without reformatting, but that isn't quite the same
[05:21] <burner> klaxian, though I'm not 100% sure that qtparted can do it without data loss either
[05:22] <DaSkreech> williak: Where is that parition?
[05:22] <klaxian> burner: that's not too comforting :-P
[05:22] <burner> klaxian, it will tell you if it's going to lose data ;)
[05:22] <williak> i have partitionmagic in MBR. Won't grub overwrite it?
[05:22] <klaxian> burner: wonderful
[05:22] <Sparky_> williak: yes it will.
[05:22] <burner> williak, it will... but partitionmagic blows donkey nutz
[05:22] <Madpilot> cafuego: ah, OK. I was just scanning man mount out of curiousity
[05:23] <williak> can grub see beos. I don't want to lose anything.
[05:23] <burner> williak, yes
[05:23] <Sparky_> williak: Yes.
[05:23] <burner> williak, http://sxs.thexdershome.com/administration/grubbeos.html
[05:23] <williak> i have 4 other os partitions on 3 other dirves will grub see those?
[05:23] <cafuego> williak: Yes, grub can boot pretty much anything (in on x86 anyway)
[05:23] <cafuego> williak: yes
[05:23] <burner> williak, yes
[05:23] <DaSkreech> williak: If absolute worse comes you can use a Windows CD an restore the Windows Boot loader and get back in there
[05:24] <d03boy> after I upgraded to breezy from hoary my GUI no longer works because of my xorg config... anyone know how I can fix this? Isnt there default settings that will work or something?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Which allows you to put back partition magic
[05:24] <Davethewave> how come I can't get my CD out of the drive, and a program is asking me to insert the second disk
[05:24] <cafuego> williak: grub basically uses the bootloader in the other partitions to bootstrap whatever is installed there
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Right
[05:24] <williak> thank you all. I will try again.
[05:24] <DaSkreech> burner: Hey! It's magic!!
[05:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:24] <Davethewave> I push eject, it just blinks the light and ignores me
[05:24] <cafuego> DaSkreech: *I* am magic, *it* is not.
[05:24] <chiehchen> Davethewave: you got to unmount/eject it from the desktop.
[05:24] <cafuego> Davethewave: It's probably mounted
[05:25] <williak> PM has been good to me. It can probably see Ubuntu if i get it loaded. I never had a problem with red hat though
[05:25] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Right whats up now?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: how did you install flash?
[05:25] <andrew> I'm trying out kubuntu on my desktop. Problem: My main cd rom drive eject button doesn't work, and when I shutdown kubunto I can't get the cd out. Is there a command I can give or something? any suggestions?
[05:25] <Davethewave> ahh
[05:25] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: uh, i dont remember. XD
[05:25] <andrew> kubuntu live cd
[05:25] <sally_> how do I set the default umask to 002 instead of 022
[05:25] <sally_> for all users, system-wide
[05:25] <beginxattraction> okay, im about to install super-karamba via tarball (I use KDE, no I don't have Kubuntu) what do I need to put into terminal to install it?
[05:25] <burner> sally_, by editing /etc/fstab
[05:25] <cafuego> sally_: umask 002 in /etc/profile
[05:25] <DaSkreech> andrew: Pretty much not while you are running from it I think
[05:25] <Madpilot> andrew: you need to shut it down from the menu, then it will eject the CD itself
[05:25] <burner> whoa... nevermind
[05:26] <intelikey> sally_ in /etc/profile i would think
[05:26] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Umm Right.
[05:26] <burner> /etc/profile ??? wtf is umask then?
[05:26] <luisito> I have a question about the toolbars... how I can change the icons of the toolbar?? I have seen some GTK2.x of clearlooks in Gnome-look but I don't get those icons when I download the themes.
[05:26] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: have you looked at restricted Formats?
[05:26] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: well i installed it like a week and a half ago
[05:26] <andrew> madpilot: I did it by that means. but it didn't eject it. Knoppix will, but kubuntu doesn't
[05:26] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: yes, tried everythin ghtere
[05:26] <burner> luisito, what toolbar?
[05:26] <cafuego> sally_: You can also check for the DIR_MODE option in /etc/adduser.conf
[05:26] <cafuego> burner: 'man umask'
[05:26] <Madpilot> andrew: i've only ever used the Ubuntu LiveCD, that's how it works. Kubuntu can't be that different?
[05:26] <burner> yea yea... ok cafuego
[05:27] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: What sound card do you have?
[05:27] <andrew> madpilot: well I'll keep messing with it. I've shutdown from the menu 3 times and no eject yet. Thanks for your efforts though!
[05:27] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: soundblaster
[05:27] <sally_> intelikey, burner, cafuego ... thanks, that's what I was looking for
[05:28] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: And all other sounds are peachy?
[05:28] <llODxCOll> how do you ban someone from messaging you on here?
[05:28] <llODxCOll> ?
[05:28] <llODxCOll> how do ban someone from messageing me on here
[05:28] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: yes
[05:28] <llODxCOll> HOW
[05:28] <llODxCOll> DO
[05:28] <llODxCOll> I
[05:28] <llODxCOll> BAN
[05:28] <luisito> burner, the normal window toolbars
[05:28] <llODxCOll> SOMEONE
[05:28] <cafuego> !ops
[05:28] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[05:28] <llODxCOll> ON
[05:28] <llODxCOll> HERE
[05:28] <Sparky_> OdxCO: Ignore them
[05:28] <cafuego> llODxCOll: stop spamming
[05:28] <llODxCOll> HOW
[05:28] <llODxCOll> THE
[05:28] <bthornton> I'm trying to backup ~20G of data to DVD-Rs.  Does anyone know if either tar or zip will create multi-volume archives such that each file is roughly the size of a DVD?
[05:28] <llODxCOll> HELL
[05:28] <llODxCOll> DO
[05:28] <llODxCOll> I
[05:28] <llODxCOll> BAN
[05:28] <burner> luisito, define "normal window toolbars"  in nautilus? firefox? gnome-panel?
[05:28] <purplefeltangel> llODxCOll shut up!!!
[05:28] <llODxCOll> SOMEONE
[05:28] <llODxCOll> ON
[05:28] <bthornton> "man tar" said to pass the 'M' argument, but doesn't give any more info than that (i.e. how to specify volume size?)
[05:28] <llODxCOll> HERE
[05:28] <andrew> madpilot: is there a way to make it stop the boot process when it shows the help index? maybe a way I can make it boot from the drive? then I will be able to open that drive
[05:28] <cafuego> !ops
[05:28] <intelikey> umask = user mask  it tells the system what permissions to set on newly created inodes   for umask=022    777 - $umask  = 755  or   666 - $umask = 644
[05:28] <Projext> how do you not flood channel is a better question
[05:29] <luisito> burner, sorry, nautilus toolbar
[05:29] <Davethewave> suppose it's format time, third time in three days.. hehe
[05:29] <burner> thank you nalioth :)
[05:29] <cafuego> nalioth: cheers
[05:29] <zerozader> How do I customize my desktop (Ex. add the trash, home directory, GNOME default icons)?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Hooray!
[05:29] <burner> luisito, did you try changing the "icon theme" not just the gtk theme?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> hi williak
[05:29] <bthornton> thanks nalioth
[05:29] <williak> hey, what was that website address about grub?
[05:29] <burner> williak, http://sxs.thexdershome.com/administration/grubbeos.html
[05:29] <nalioth> bah, trolls. we hatesss them
[05:30] <williak> thanks. now is there any way to save text in mirc?
[05:30] <intelikey> who trolled ?
[05:30] <burner> zerozader, open "gconf-editor" go to "apps -> nautilus -> desktop"
[05:30] <bthornton> ironically, that's the first time I've ever seen that on freenode
[05:30] <oxez> Okay, I managed to get my game controller to work, but only as root? When I run it as 'oxez' zsnes tell me "ZSNES cannot find any joystick". Any ideas? I think I should add myself to a certain group, but I'm not sure of which one
[05:30] <burner> williak, highlight... then paste elsewhere
[05:30] <Davethewave> trolls are fake ... at least .. I never saw one :P
[05:30] <gar-> do any here have sussefull installed planetshift on breezy please let me know
[05:30] <williak> that's lame but it will have to do. thanks.
[05:30] <nalioth> cafuego: anyway, i guess that fella got his answer
[05:31] <Madpilot> andrew: on my machine, the CD drives get power right after boot, so you can pop it open while the BIOS is still waking up and pull the CD
[05:31] <intelikey> Davethewave hasn't been around irc for very long
[05:31] <gar-> robotgeek, you there?
[05:31] <cafuego> nalioth: <heh> the joys of experiential learning ;-)
[05:31] <zerozader> burner: Thanks!  Something I should've known...brain farts suck lol.
[05:31] <luisito> burner, ok, excellent
[05:31] <robotgeek> gar-: yeah, just came in
[05:31] <robotgeek> cafuego: hi
[05:31] <gar-> robotgeek, do you know how to install planetshift on breezy?
[05:31] <robotgeek> gar-: i have no clue of what you are talking about, sorry
[05:32] <andrew> madpilot: ok thanks. I'll try that. Thanks again for your help
[05:32] <gar-> robotgeek, lol ok is a game i have some problem installing it
[05:32] <nalioth> cafuego: dont forget the fermented hops fuel he runs on
[05:32] <robotgeek> lol
[05:32] <cafuego> nalioth: he's no bender!
[05:32] <intelikey> cafuego   'experiential learning' = 'trial and reformat method'   most of my education came that way  :)
[05:33] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75237.html
[05:33] <purplefeltangel> daskreech thanks i will try that
[05:33] <intelikey> burner = local troll  ???
[05:34] <Mabus06> my sound is incredibly choppy when I play doom3 on ubuntu. What could be the issue?
[05:34] <intmainvoid> Anyone really good at PHP Syntax?
[05:34] <Davethewave> is ubuntu going to have a system-restore-like feature in the future?
[05:34] <luisito> burner, but when I set a XFCE Gtk it change the toolbar icons but I maintain the theme of Icons I like for folders, filetypes, etc..
[05:34] <Mabus06> #gamers
[05:34] <intmainvoid> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5059    It says there is an unexpected '{' token at line 168.
[05:34] <Madpilot> intmainvoid: #php is probably the place to ask that
[05:34] <DaSkreech> intelikey: More Like a smaller type.. A gnome troll
[05:34] <intmainvoid> Madpilot:  I'm in there
[05:34] <intmainvoid> NEvermind
[05:34] <xerophyte> how do you boot the ubuntu system  into signle mode i mean i append 1 to the grub boot its still boot in normal mode
[05:34] <intmainvoid> they helped. Didn't see anyone was tlaking
[05:35] <xerophyte> oh recovery mode hmmm ..
[05:35] <burner> luisito, i think icon themes override gtk themes
[05:36] <jwlittle> I just picked up a new amd64 x2 and nvidia 6600 le and i cant get ubuntu x86 or 64 to run..Right before I'd get the login screen at boot it freezes...just white noise on the screen
[05:36] <andrew> Madpilot: I got my drive bay open. Thanks again for all your suggestions. I really liek the help this community provides. I hope one day I have the knowledge to pass on.
[05:37] <ardchoille> When I find an app I like, what do I look for as far as a package? Can I use a .deb (can ya tell I am a noob to Ubuntu?)
[05:37] <Davethewave> is it possible that my adding Multiverse and Universe as sources is what caused my system to be so slow
[05:37] <Madpilot> Davethewave: I doubt it; extra sources don't automatically install stuff or anything like that
[05:37] <gar-> do anyone here have run planetshift on breezy please let me know thanks
[05:37] <Venson> jwlittle: disable legacy USB support in the BIOS? ....is it the hp a1250n system you're talking about?
[05:37] <burner> Davethewave, how is it "slow" boot time?  moving windows around?  net?
[05:38] <Davethewave> because that's about all I did, then I apt-update apt-upgrade.. then it's super slow to boot and slow to open some programs
[05:38] <jwlittle> no..homebuilt
[05:38] <tony_> hey has anybody else in here installed webmin on ubuntu before?
[05:38] <jason> i need a little help with changing grub to lilo
[05:38] <burner> Davethewave, any idea what your processor usage is like?  or RAM usage?
[05:38] <Madpilot> Davethewave: the only thing I can see extra sources slowing down is the searching in Synaptic, because it's looking thru more databases...
[05:39] <chiehchen> yeah.. installed webmin on ubuntu before...
[05:39] <intelikey> jason edit /etc/lilo.conf   and  'sudo lilo '
[05:39] <burner> Davethewave, did you see what packages were upgraded?
[05:39] <Davethewave> and I have an amd 2200 (1.8Ghz) 512 ram
[05:39] <tony_> well I installed webmin, but it won't let me log in
[05:39] <burner> Davethewave, and what's the usage like? :P
[05:39] <tony_> so I used the change password script to make sure the password is what I thought it was
[05:39] <jwlittle> is there a way to boot directly into the command line so I can install new nvidia drivers?
[05:39] <tony_> and it still won't let me login
[05:40] <tony_> any ideas of what to check?
[05:40] <williak> which boot loader is better GRUB or LILO?
[05:40] <burner> williak, grub!
[05:40] <nalioth> jwlittle: you can open a terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:40] <DaSkreech> williak: Grub
[05:40] <Davethewave> cpu 2.0-6.0 % memory 177.3 swap 12.2
[05:40] <chiehchen> tony_: the username/password is not setup for webmin
[05:40] <jwlittle> how can i open up a terminal? I cant even get to the login screen?
[05:41] <intelikey> williak better ?   it depends on what you want it to do.
[05:41] <luisito> burner, I find the Icons I saw at Gnome-look, they are the Tango Project Icons, now I'm having what I saw there. :)
[05:41] <chiehchen> tony_: got to edit /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf (I am not sure the name..)  let me check
[05:41] <tony_> the installation script says that it copies root and its pass to the password file, and a quick vi of the file shows that it does
[05:41] <tony_> yeah that's the file
[05:41] <Davethewave> in gnome, I don't have kde... not sure what xfce is :p
[05:41] <mrkoje> jwlittle: try hitting "ctrl+alt+f+f1"
[05:41] <tony_> and it contains "root: (a hash)"
[05:41] <burner> luisito, :)  for the record, tango is a lot more than just the icon theme from gnome-look, but whatever, if it works
[05:41] <chiehchen> tony_: the problem is that if you don't have root password... then, that account is locked..
[05:41] <tony_> but I do...
[05:42] <Madpilot> Davethewave: a 2200 w/ 512 should be OK, but not blazing
[05:42] <burner> Madpilot, he said it slowed down though
[05:42] <nalioth> jwlittle: boot into 'rescue' mode (and preface your sentences with someons nick, please)
[05:42] <tony_> and just to make sure that was working I ran webmin's change password script to make sure it had what I thought it did
[05:42] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: ok, i am doing what the thread linked says, but there is no "asound" folder...
[05:42] <mrkoje> Jwlittle: you can open up 6 different shells using f1-f6 and you can use f7 to get back to the x server
[05:42] <Davethewave> yeah it was fast, then got slow
[05:42] <burner> tony_, going to webmin via http://localhost?
[05:42] <Davethewave> did it yesterday too, format fixed it :P
[05:42] <gee_cee0> why is it that when i share my folder using samba, my whole account's folder get shared as well?
[05:42] <tony_> yeah https://localhost:10000
[05:42] <jwlittle> Thanks all
[05:42] <cafuego> woo, i got off the ground in flightgear ;-)
[05:42] <chiehchen> tony_: but you can't login with the root password?
[05:42] <Quequeg> Davethewave, did you upgrade your kernel without upgrading an nvidia proprietary video driver?
[05:42] <tony_> nope
[05:43] <luisito> burner, man! this Icons are the best I have saw. It fits excellent with the UI.
[05:43] <tony_> is there a way to add another user, to see if that works?
[05:43] <chiehchen> tony_: yes, you can do it manually...
[05:43] <tony_> k
[05:43] <tony_> one second I'll try that
[05:43] <Davethewave> I did install the nvidia driver thats in synaptic
[05:43] <jameswilliams> say I downloaded a .deb package... how do I install it?
[05:43] <burner> luisito, http://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.png
[05:43] <Davethewave> perhaps a remove?
[05:43] <chiehchen> tony_: /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[05:43] <tony_> oh, and is the https:// what's hosing this, perhaps?
[05:44] <gee_cee0> how can i stop sharing my whole user folder?
[05:44] <sally_> I have umask set to 002 in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile but when I create a file as root through sudo it has permissions of 755 not 775, does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:44] <chiehchen> tony_: just copy the line from /etc/shadow into /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[05:44] <DaSkreech> jameswilliams: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:44] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Huh?
[05:45] <intelikey> gee_cee0 define 'user folder '   please
[05:45] <gee_cee0> /home/john
[05:45] <ardchoille> so, any .deb package is ok to install in Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[05:45] <gee_cee0> whole thing get shared
[05:45] <burner> ardchoille, if you like headaches :)
[05:45] <intelikey> gee_cee0 samba share ?
[05:45] <gee_cee0> yea
[05:45] <eno> help a total n00b who wants to type 'startx' a lot out!  How do I set Ubuntu to boot to a command prompt?
[05:46] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75237.html says to go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753 and do what it says, but theres no "asound" folder.
[05:46] <ardchoille> burner: ok, what do I do if the app I want isn't on the Ubuntu repos?
[05:46] <burner> gee_cee0, sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf and comment out the whole [homes]  section
[05:46] <gee_cee0> burner: i had problems running .deb installed packages
[05:46] <tony_> nope... and it just blocked me for too many access failures
[05:46] <DaSkreech> eno: try man inittab
[05:46] <burner> ardchoille, if it's built for ubuntu... it would work
[05:46] <Davethewave> hmm.. I need to reboot :P thanks for the help all :) if removing nvidia drivers doesn't help, I suppose I will just format again (that always gets it to work) ;)
[05:46] <tony_> I set the blocked_time to 0, but that seems ineffective
[05:46] <burner> ardchoille, if it's made for debian... it 'may' work
[05:46] <tony_> how do I get it to block me for a very short amount of time?
[05:47] <chiehchen> tony_: restart webmin?
[05:47] <tony_> restarting it does nothing
[05:47] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Do you have alsa installed?
[05:47] <eno> Daskreech: thans
[05:47] <gee_cee0> burner: how do u run a .deb installed package?
[05:47] <tony_> there's a file somewhere that's keeping track of who's denied or not
[05:47] <burner> run a .deb installed package?
[05:47] <nalioth> ardchoille: please only use ubuntu pkgs, using others can cause your box to cease functions
[05:47] <burner> wtf does that mean
[05:47] <tony_> only thing that works so far is uninstalling webmin and reinstalling it
[05:47] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: um, i think so. theres a folder called "alsa"
[05:47] <intelikey> gee_cee0 maybe   http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba  can explain it for you if not come back and we'll see what we can do.
[05:47] <burner> ardchoille, u can always get the source of an app... compile it... and make your own .deb
[05:48] <burner> ardchoille, it's not an easy task though
[05:48] <ardchoille> nalioth: ok, that's good advice.. I will do that. However, how do I install an app that doesn't have an ubuntu package?
[05:48] <chiehchen> tony_: there is one file.. i forgot which one is it...
[05:48] <tony_> yeah I've been looking for the deny file all night
[05:48] <tony_> it's driving me nuts
[05:48] <ardchoille> burner: ah hah, ok, thanks
[05:48] <nalioth> ardchoille: it is preferred to find an ubuntu pkg, but if you search high and low and come up short, compiling is better than a non ubuntu pkg
[05:49] <mcadory> tony_: steering wheel in pants?
[05:49] <tony_> lol
[05:49] <ardchoille> nalioth: ok, thank you for that info :)
[05:49] <luisito> burner, great Desktop man! :) I like the "lookin' good" desktops, for me that is like a mania. but it has to be fast too, not weird things that make things slow the graphics like transparencies. so far I don't like transparencies because of that.
[05:49] <mrkoje> BURNER
[05:50] <chiehchen> tony_: i think it will timeout and let you in again... :)
[05:50] <chiehchen> tony_: did you check /etc/webmin/miniserv.users?
[05:50] <tony_> one would hope...
[05:50] <tony_> yeah
[05:51] <tony_> and the other conf file... I set the timeout from "300" to "0"
[05:51] <chiehchen> tony_: does it have correct root username and password in it?
[05:51] <tony_> it has the correct username
[05:51] <tony_> the password I dunno cause it's a hash
[05:51] <chiehchen> tony_: and this won't let you in?
[05:51] <tony_> nope
[05:51] <chiehchen> tony_:or does it said you "do not have access to modules"?
[05:52] <tony_> it says "invalid login"
[05:52] <tony_> what it looks like to me is that the webmin cgi pages can't find the users file to try to log me in
[05:52] <tony_> so it always says bad password and kicks me out
[05:52] <Selekta> any itunes clones with ipod support out there?
[05:52] <chiehchen> tony_: maybe create another normal user to test....
[05:52] <intelikey> incorrect auth mech ?
[05:53] <nalioth> Selekta: use gtkpod
[05:53] <tony_> did that... have a new user called "tony"
[05:53] <tony_> copied over the password info
[05:53] <Selekta> using winxp at the moment, have used ubuntu before, but changed back due to shcool and needing certain software, schools over, time to go back :D
[05:53] <tony_> nada
[05:53] <burner> luisito, thanks :)  i appreciate a good lookin one too
[05:54] <chiehchen> tony_: denyfile=\.pl$   (that's from miniserv.conf) should be the file for blocking.
[05:54] <luisito> burner, why I can't change the Gnome-panel icons freely like I used to do in Hoary? I only can change the icons with the ones in /usr/share/pixmaps/      :-/  !?!?
[05:54] <firestorm> Hi. I had free space and created a new linux partition in fdisk. However, my system uses hotplug and didn't create a /dev/hda3 device at boot time so I cannot mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3 even though I've created the partition. I tried mknot /dev/hda3 b 3 3  but mkfs.ext3 says: no such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size. I also tried /etc/init.d/hotplug restart. Any hints?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Right
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Ed time
[05:55] <DaSkreech> bed even
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Night all
[05:55] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Sorry mate. I have to be up tomorrow
[05:55] <Selekta> a few things have changed since i've swapped over....what's duel monitor support like?
[05:55] <tony_> k it just timed out and let me in again
[05:55] <DaSkreech> purplefeltangel: Look into the folder a little bit more and don't be afraid to google while waiting for help on here
[05:56] <tony_> wait a minute
[05:56] <purplefeltangel> daskreech: ok
[05:56] <purplefeltangel> thx
[05:56] <tony_> in the miniserv.conf file it says the host is "ubuntu"
[05:56] <xerophyte> why could not i login as root to the ubuntu from the login screen
[05:56] <tony_> should I be going to http://ubuntu:10000?
[05:56] <burner> luisito, click "browse" to find other icons ;)
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xerophyte about root
[05:56] <chiehchen> tony_: no https://localhost:10000 should be correct
[05:57] <tony_> hmm
[05:57] <chiehchen> tony_: its strange.. for me... i just tried to have wrong login 3 times and blocked me out... i just restarted webmin and it worked again!
[05:57] <tony_> btw my conf file as no "denyfile" line
[05:57] <chiehchen> tony_: did you restart webmin by /etc/init.d/webmin restart  ??
[05:57] <tony_> yeah
[05:58] <chiehchen> tony_: you are using Breezy right?
[05:58] <theCore> I would need help for configuring my madwifi driver for WEP, can someone help me?
[05:58] <chiehchen> tony_: seems like we got different webmin version
[05:58] <tony_> and whenever I do that I get an error that it can't kill the process cause the process didn't exist but then it starts up again
[05:58] <tony_> I'm using breezy, yes
[05:59] <tony_> which is odd, cause obviously the process did exist if I was able to see the login screen at all
[05:59] <luisito> burner, no man, I do that and I can't select any other from another folder, that is the strange thing, It appears like an unavailable item wich I can't select  !?!?
[05:59] <bob_4_a_day> ps and see if its running now
[05:59] <luisito> sorry, I mean which
[06:00] <burner> luisito, u can select another 'folder' and then that folder loads the icons in it for you to click on
[06:01] <tony_> arghh
[06:02] <chiehchen> tony_: you are using root access for all these steps right?
[06:02] <tony_> yes
[06:02] <tony_> through sudo
[06:02] <tony_> although when trying to login to the thing I use the "tony" username
[06:02] <chiehchen> tony_: maybe webmin never got restarted since there was an error...
[06:02] <chiehchen> tony_: your configuration never got updated...
[06:02] <tony_> just in case it matters that root is locked
[06:02] <tony_> well it does eventually reset the lockout
[06:03] <tony_> so I can see the login now
[06:03] <tony_> now my problem is why it always says "Login failed."
[06:03] <chiehchen> tony_: normally, after you restart webmin, the lock should be gone...  if it is not.. that means restart is not done.
[06:03] <tony_> k
[06:03] <gee_cee0> intelikey: thanks... commented out the homes section of smb.conf and it works fine
[06:03] <gar-> robotgeek, how you can change the permission of a directory and everything on it?
[06:03] <chiehchen> tony_: so miniserv.users never got read correctly...  so you can never login..
[06:04] <chiehchen> tony_: maybe restart ubuntu to see if this can solve this
[06:04] <robotgeek> gar-: chmod
[06:04] <tony_> this is what I get
[06:04] <tony_> /etc/webmin/stop: line 4: kill: (10909) - No such process
[06:04] <purplefeltangel> i r ur mother
[06:04] <mcadory> gar-: chmod -
[06:04] <mcadory> gar-: chmod -R
[06:04] <gar-> robotgeek,  yes but what is the exact command sudo chmod -R 775 /fordel like that?
[06:04] <wastrel> hello folks- i have a gpg error when i apt-get update - anything to be concerned about?
[06:04] <tony_> allright I'll try a restart
[06:04] <tony_> do I need to reboot or just logout and back in?
[06:04] <chiehchen> tony_: look into the log...
[06:04] <luisito> burner, oh my God!!, I'm an animal, what a stupid detail I missed!!!. I loosed the touch man, I loosed the touch! :DD
[06:05] <chiehchen> tony_: maybe what ever you changed in configuration broke the setup..
[06:05] <robotgeek> gar-: yup
[06:05] <chiehchen> tony_: maybe the best to reboot s
[06:05] <burner> luisito, don't beat yerself up over it ;)  it's all good
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> omg asl
[06:05] <cafuego> luisito: 'lost'
[06:06] <wastrel> nobody on the gpg error?
[06:06] <tony_> k
[06:06] <tony_> brb after a reboot
[06:06] <klaxian> burner: ok well i'm 0 for 2
[06:06] <mcadory> wastrel: add some lines to your sources.list lately?
[06:06] <burner> klaxian, qtparted doesn't do it either?
[06:06] <klaxian> burner: qtparted couldn't move an ntfs partition from a logical one to a primary
[06:07] <burner> klaxian, sorry man... i'd say wipe it and reinstall xp onto a primary :)
[06:07] <wastrel> mcadory, haven't touched it for months
[06:07] <klaxian> burner: this was working with the same partitions before though with debian
[06:07] <klaxian> i just installed ubuntu onto the debian one instead
[06:07] <luisito> cafuego, thank you. burner: sorry my english ;P
[06:07] <burner> klaxian, that seems crazy that it was working before... what error do you get from grub?
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> luisito: what language do you speak?
[06:08] <klaxian> burner: error 12: invalid device or something - also it says unrecognized file system type
[06:08] <beginxattraction> I have Ubuntu and REALLY want KDE without messing up everything, and I am out of cd's... is there any way I can get Kubuntu without burning a cd??
[06:09] <klaxian> burner: do you think by chance i configured grub wrong?  i followed the ubuntu howto
[06:09] <burner> beginxattraction, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <beginxattraction> burner, thanks
[06:09] <gee_cee0> burner: is that all u need to change ubuntu to kubuntu?
[06:09] <mrkoje> burner: this pm is important
[06:09] <burner> klaxian, ubuntu didn't make it automatically?
[06:09] <luisito> purplefeltangel, spanish man!
[06:09] <klaxian> burner: no it didn't
[06:09] <bob_4_a_day> gee_cee0 what is kubuntu ?
[06:09] <nalioth> gee_cee0: that is all
[06:09] <purplefeltangel> luisito: oh. my spanish es el sucko.
[06:09] <burner> mrkoje, pm?  try bur[n] er
[06:09] <beginxattraction> Kubuntu is KDE ubuntu
[06:10] <mrkoje> burner: no you
[06:10] <burner> gee_cee0, yes
[06:10] <klaxian> burner: i thought it was odd too
[06:10] <burner> mrkoje, blow me :)
[06:10] <klaxian> burner: but i can mount it in ubuntu and see all my windows files
[06:10] <mrkoje> burner: ok fine... I'll just tell ya in here.
[06:10] <burner> klaxian, u have chainloader +1 in the menu.lst right?
[06:10] <purplefeltangel> i am toos exy for my shirt
[06:10] <luisito> purplefeltangel, sorry, sucko?
[06:10] <klaxian> burner: yes
[06:11] <purplefeltangel> luisito: it means im horrible at spanish.
[06:11] <wastrel> ! warty
[06:11] <ubotu> somebody said warty was short for warty warthog which is the first release of ubuntu
[06:11] <mrkoje> burner: http://burner.ath.cx/phpmyadmin/index.php
[06:11] <mrkoje> burner: blow you... ok  its wide open
[06:11] <burner> lol
[06:11] <burner> no worries
[06:11] <burner> i have nothing set up locally ;)
[06:11] <misfit_toy> !tovid
[06:11] <ubotu> tovid is probably possibly the greatest video encoder, with a GUI, located at http://tovid.sourceforge.net
[06:11] <purplefeltangel> !your mom
[06:11] <ubotu> purplefeltangel: What?
[06:11] <mrkoje> burner: still not good practice
[06:12] <burner> mrkoje, u admin your box, i'll do mine ;)
[06:12] <misfit_toy> that sounds like marriage
[06:12] <klaxian> burner: can i paste you my config privately so i don't clutter the channel?
[06:12] <tony_> ok I is back
[06:12] <burner> klaxian, or use pastebin
[06:12] <burner> klaxian, that way others can help
[06:12] <tony_> rebooting got me "in", now I have a "You do not have access to any modules."
[06:12] <luisito> purplefeltangel, oh! jejejje. English is much more easy. Not too much grammatical laws like spanish.
[06:12] <klaxian> burner: never used that before
[06:12] <burner> !pastebin
[06:12] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:13] <chiehchen> tony_: ok.. got to edit /etc/webmin/webmin.acl
[06:13] <tony_> there should be the samba module at least
[06:13] <tony_> k
[06:13] <chiehchen> tony_: that is the access control thing
[06:13] <luisito> purplefeltangel, but english is very confusing sometimes. :P
[06:14] <dragonbyte> anyone know if ubuntu will have kernel source for 2.6.12 soon?
[06:14] <wastrel> !breezy
[06:14] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:14] <chiehchen> tony_: ubuntu team got to make this thing work more smoothly...
[06:14] <tony_> lol
[06:14] <purplefeltangel> luisito: yeah, i bet.
[06:14] <tony_> ok I's in that file
[06:14] <dragonbyte> or why the kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4.5 but it ships with gcc 4.0.2 :(
[06:14] <gee_cee0> what are the advantages of using kubuntu over ubuntu?
[06:15] <burner> gee_cee0, amarok is faster :)
[06:15] <ooPo> kernel has problems compiling with gcc4
[06:15] <tony_> and it says "root: acl change-user servers webmin webminlog inetd samba"
[06:15] <theCore> dragonbyte: for stability
[06:15] <dragonbyte> gee_cee0: as i understand it kubuntu is just kde
[06:15] <Daemon> is there a separate channel for draper bugs / questions?
[06:15] <gee_cee0> burner: amarok?
[06:15] <chiehchen> tony_: you are loggin in with root?  or the tony user?
[06:15] <burner> !amarok
[06:15] <ubotu> well, amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[06:15] <klaxian> burner: ok i posted the end of the config
[06:15] <dragonbyte> gee_cee0: and ubuntu is gnome, that is the only difference i know of
[06:15] <bob_4_a_day> ooPo is it a kernel or gcc issue ?
[06:15] <tony_> I was logged in as tony
[06:15] <burner> klaxian, link?
[06:15] <jknife> hey
[06:15] <gee_cee0> burner: haha i see
[06:15] <dragonbyte> gcc 4.0.2 cant compile the kernel?
[06:15] <tony_> fixed it though
[06:15] <tony_> ok cool I'm in!
[06:15] <klaxian> burner: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5060
[06:15] <chiehchen> tony_: ok.. cool.. :)
[06:16] <wastrel> my foot is a sleep
[06:16] <gee_cee0> dragonbyte: i meant, what are the differences between GNOME and KDE?
[06:16] <wastrel> asleep
[06:16] <ooPo> kernel or gcc? a little of both :)
[06:16] <tony_> lol and all of this was to make setting samba up easier...
[06:16] <dragonbyte> gee_cee0: personal taste mostly
[06:16] <bob_4_a_day> 0,o
[06:16] <dragonbyte> gee_cee0: GNOME vs KDE is a flame war waiting to start in most cases :)
[06:16] <burner> klaxian, take out the "makeactive" ?
[06:16] <chiehchen> tony_: lol...  yeah..  ubuntu really got to get this easier ...
[06:17] <jknife> gee_cee0, A LOT... try em both.. i found gnome to be a lilfaster.. kde has more eyecandy
[06:17] <burner> klaxian, and add a boot
[06:17] <klaxian> burner: ok...
[06:17] <gee_cee0> dragonbyte: oh haha i see
[06:17] <klaxian> burner: brb while i restart to test
[06:17] <dragonbyte> gee_cee0: very rough and not entirely accurate description.  KDE is more windows like and GNOME is closer to CDE from Solaris
[06:17] <gee_cee0> jknife: hmm ok thanks i will
[06:17] <theCore> dragonbyte: it would work , but it would involve an unnecessary risk
[06:17] <gee_cee0> dragonbyte: ohhh
[06:18] <jknife> dragonbyte, umm gnome is more like Windows to me
[06:18] <dragonbyte> theCore: well I need to hand compile some modules, what would you suggest as the best route?
[06:18] <tony_> I hate samba, btw
[06:18] <tony_> it's fickle...
[06:18] <mrkoje> tony whats wrong with your samba
[06:18] <tony_> it'll work just fine and then one day decide to quit
[06:18] <logical_mark> Hey how do I login as root? I tried from the login screen but it says that is not allowed
[06:18] <mrkoje> tony: have you used swat
[06:18] <burner> !tell logical_mark about sudo
[06:18] <jknife> logical_mark, you cant
[06:18] <mrkoje> tony: i recommend that to everyone
[06:18] <dragonbyte> jknife: Sun did alot of work with GNOME, the whole java desktop thing for example
[06:18] <tony_> I'll use swat if I can get it to work
[06:18] <dragonbyte> jknife: really gnome/kde is all about how you tweak it in the end
[06:19] <Comrade_Vladimir> hey can some one help me with the win32 codecs?
[06:19] <tony_> I do one thing at a time and webmin was first
[06:19] <burner> Comrade_Vladimir, what's the problem?
[06:19] <jknife> everything *nix is how you tweak it
[06:19] <logical_mark> burner, I need to move a file into the directory of apache, which I just installed
[06:19] <logical_mark> but I dont own it
[06:19] <burner> logical_mark, sudo
[06:19] <theCore> dragonbyte: go with your preferences, personally i would just install build-essential pkg
[06:19] <tweek> Hello
[06:19] <dragonbyte> jknife: my favorite was seeing the Windows XP linux box.  I want to say it was done with KDE but it may have been GNOME
[06:19] <gee_cee0> guys, newb question but, when someone says something in red letters is that a /msg?
[06:20] <wastrel> anyone know why i'm getting GPG errors in my apt-get update, and whether or not i should be concerned about it?
[06:20] <tweek> I just installed ubuntu, and it never gave me an option to set my root pass, wtf?
[06:20] <dragonbyte> jknife: looked and behaved just like WinXP cept for a few program differences
[06:20] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell tweek about sudo
[06:20] <ooPo> your root password is the same as your user password
[06:20] <jknife> i have a problem...
[06:20] <bur[n] er> ooPo: that's not necessarily true
[06:20] <jknife> i installed Kylix3 yesterday.. and well "/usr/share/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/share/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:20] <jknife> "
[06:20] <bur[n] er> ooPo: more correct would be that there is no root password
[06:20] <ooPo> in the default install, isn't it?
[06:20] <ooPo> fair enough
[06:21] <dragonbyte> theCore: what is build-essential pkg for?
[06:21] <Comrade_Vladimir> burner it says Couldn't open audio.
[06:21] <Comrade_Vladimir> Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. when i play a file
[06:21] <liable> !b-e
[06:21] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[06:21] <bob_4_a_day> !root
[06:21] <ubotu> root is, like, totally, rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:21] <bur[n] er> dragonbyte: gives you the tools to compile stuff
[06:21] <tweek> Thanks robotgeek
[06:21] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: is this your user that you set up in the initial install?
[06:21] <dragonbyte> well I didnt know 4.0.2 had problems with the kernel
[06:21] <tony_> ok it wants the path to the samba password file...
[06:21] <dragonbyte> i was just gunna grab the latest kernel and build from scratch
[06:21] <tony_> vhere iz deess?
[06:21] <omar-> im trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop but i think the cd rom isnt working on it, is there another way i can install it?
[06:22] <dragonbyte> what kind of problems does 4.0.2 have?
[06:22] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: does any audio play?  what type of file is it that you think win32 codecs is the problem for?
[06:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> burner and bur[n] er r u the same?
[06:22] <liable> omar-: floppies?
[06:22] <jknife> omar-, yes.. install debian-stable... and upgrade to ubuntu
[06:22] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: yes
[06:22] <dragonbyte> omar-: in theory you could start with debian proper network boot/install floppy
[06:22] <DShepherd> hey
[06:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> bur[n] er its a mp3
[06:22] <omar-> i got the ubuntu cd
[06:22] <jknife> i installed Kylix3 yesterday.. and well "/usr/share/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/share/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference"
[06:22] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: using what app?
[06:22] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: u don't need w32codecs for mp3
[06:23] <theCore> dragonbyte: its a collection of all the pkg you need for building software
[06:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> yes you do
[06:23] <klaxian> bur[n] er: are you burner also?
[06:23] <omar-> can the whole cd be copied onto a usb? i have a 2 gb flash drive
[06:23] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: no you don't
[06:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> and beep but allthe others too
[06:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok then whats the problem
[06:23] <nalioth> omar-: yes it can
[06:23] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: u need gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:23] <omar-> ok then i`ll try that
[06:23] <theCore> dragonbyte: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential' , to install it
[06:23] <bur[n] er> !tell Comrade_Vladimir about mp3
[06:23] <bur[n] er> klaxian: yeah... i'm the same
[06:24] <DShepherd> is ubuntu the best linux out there? :-D
[06:24] <dragonbyte> is aptitude any different than apt-get/dpkg?
[06:24] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok how do i no if i have it
[06:24] <klaxian> bur[n] er: cool...well it didn't work
[06:24] <bur[n] er> klaxian: i was playing with xchat for a bit ;)
[06:24] <bur[n] er> klaxian: http://burner.ath.cx/menu.lst.txt
[06:24] <nalioth> dragonbyte: aptitude offers a few different features than apt-get
[06:24] <bob_4_a_day> theCore you do know that it is more chars to type aptitude than apt-get   :)
[06:25] <HappyFool> dragonbyte: it's a bit cleverer with removing unused dependencies, and i believe it keeps a log of what it does. it doesn't have 'build-dep' though
[06:25] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: did you ever install it?  if not, you don't have it... but otherwise, u can use synaptic
[06:25] <bur[n] er> !tell Comrade_Vladimir about synaptic
[06:25] <dragonbyte> neat
[06:25] <theCore> bob_4_a_day: aptitude build dep better
[06:25] <dragonbyte> i always just used deborphan
[06:25] <wastrel> Should I be concerned that apt-get update is giving me GPG errors?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> wastrel: not really
[06:25] <HappyFool> !gpgerr
[06:25] <ubotu> it has been said that gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[06:25] <bob_4_a_day> k
[06:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell wastrel about gpgerr
[06:25] <nalioth> wastrel: nothing to worry about
[06:26] <klaxian> bur[n] er: so basically remove all my options...?  the other thing i found is:  map (hd0,4) (hd0,0)
[06:26] <bur[n] er> klaxian: mine works ;)  work from that
[06:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> i have used synaptic burner
[06:26] <klaxian> bur[n] er: and rootnoverify (hd0,2)
[06:26] <ubuntu-noob> is there a package of skype that will work on ubuntu breezy
[06:26] <wastrel> okey dokey
[06:26] <wastrel> thx
[06:26] <bur[n] er> noverify?  i don't have that crap klaxian
[06:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> con i get on ur channel and paste something
[06:26] <klaxian> bur[n] er: ok i will try it...but yours is on a primary partition
[06:26] <ubuntu-noob> i tried from skype it don't work
[06:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ubuntu-noob about skype
[06:27] <bur[n] er> klaxian: very true... tried googling?
[06:27] <misfit_toy> ubuntu-noob, there is a good howto on that at http://ubuntuforums.org, just search for skype
[06:27] <ubuntu-noob> k
[06:27] <wastrel> what's skype?
[06:27] <misfit_toy> wastrel, VOIP
[06:27] <klaxian> bur[n] er: yes, that's where i found the map and norootverify options
[06:27] <misfit_toy> !voip
[06:27] <ubotu> I don't know, misfit_toy
[06:27] <misfit_toy> lol
[06:27] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell wastrel about skype
[06:27] <jknife> whats been added to the repo since last night?
[06:27] <NoUse> !skype
[06:27] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:27] <ubuntu-noob> i was just hoping it mightta been one already made, i'll do that, thank you, i read up
[06:27] <bur[n] er> klaxian: i dunno bout that stuff :\
[06:27] <wastrel> it should mention that skype is voip
[06:28] <wastrel> the ubot entry
[06:28] <vector> anyone here familure with ndiswrapper
[06:28] <vector> ?
[06:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> bur[n] er? can i and u
[06:28] <klaxian> bur[n] er: The "map" lines under the Windows 98 section are essential for getting your installation to work. These are the magical lines that trick Windows into believing that it's installed on the first partition of the first disk
[06:28] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: ?
[06:28] <nalioth> vector: just ask the channel your question
[06:28] <klaxian> bur[n] er: sounds like what i need, eh?
[06:28] <vector> ok well i compiled installed ndiswrapper
[06:28] <vector> everything looks good
[06:28] <wastrel> i'm going to upgrade to breezy
[06:29] <wastrel> tra-la tra-la
[06:29] <bur[n] er> klaxian: worth a shot i'd say :)
[06:29] <klaxian> bur[n] er: ok...i'll brb while i reboot
[06:29] <vector> root@mustang:~# ndiswrapper -l
[06:29] <vector> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:29] <vector> bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present
[06:29] <vector> root@mustang:~#
[06:29] <vector> but
[06:29] <bur[n] er> !tell vector about enter
[06:29] <Comrade_Vladimir> bur[n] er just go to ur channel for a sec
[06:29] <tweek> robotgeek, how would I stop it from taking packages from the disc and start getting them from the online repositories
[06:29] <vector> wlan0 does not exist
[06:29] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: my channel? wtf?
[06:29] <robotgeek> tweek: how new are you to linux?
[06:29] <tweek> new to ubuntu
[06:29] <nalioth> vector: please read channel /topics when you enter irc channels (pasting is rude)
[06:30] <tweek> I used debian before
[06:30] <vector> ok
[06:30] <vector> sorry
[06:30] <vector> i apologize
[06:30] <vector> now... does anyone have any idea why wlan0 is not there?
[06:30] <wastrel> Tweek just edit /etc/apt/sources-list
[06:30] <bur[n] er> vector: also... use more than one word per line instead of 6 lines for little text
[06:30] <wastrel> your repositories are pointing to the cd atm, comment out those lines and add the online repositories
[06:30] <tweek> wastrel, I was thinking that but had no list of repositories
[06:31] <Comrade_Vladimir> bur[n] er type /join #bur[n] er
[06:31] <vector> yes... i got the msg
[06:31] <wastrel> tweek breezy?
[06:31] <theCore> vector: you don;t have the proper driver
[06:31] <tweek> no
[06:31] <wastrel> hoary then?
[06:31] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: no ;)  msg me if you want
[06:31] <robotgeek> tweek: open up /etc/apt/sources.list in your favourite editor,prefix sudo  and comment out the cdrom line
[06:31] <tweek> yea
[06:31] <tweek> ok
[06:31] <bob_4_a_day>   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary)
[06:31] <bob_4_a_day> tweek ^
[06:31] <nalioth> bur[n] er: Comrade_Vladimir is not registered and cannot priv msg folks
[06:31] <vector> i dont? how do you know that?.... its the one my laptop manufacturer gave me
[06:31] <ttrygve> so I just plugged in a ntfs formatted usb drive, and it automounted read-*write* ... is that normal?  I thought mounting ntfs rw was inadvisable?
[06:31] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any sidebars for linux? like the longhorn sidebar
[06:31] <theCore> vector: do you have a usb wireless adapter, or something like that ?
[06:32] <bur[n] er> nalioth: i assumed as such... but there's only so much help I give for playing mp3s ;)
[06:32] <nalioth> ttrygve: it usually is, something makes no sense with that
[06:32] <tweek> Thanks bob_4_a_day, robotgeek , wastrel
[06:32] <HappyFool> ttrygve: can you actually write to the disk?
[06:32] <robotgeek> tweek: have fun
[06:32] <vector> theCore, no... im on a gateway m350wvm laptop...
[06:32] <nalioth> bur[n] er: send your fan club !register
[06:32] <bur[n] er> lol... will do nalioth
[06:32] <ttrygve> I haven't tried yet, I'm rsync'ing the contents to a backup dir now.  I only noticed how it was mounted after starting
[06:32] <vector> theCore, it says hardware present?!?!
[06:32] <mrkoje> vector: it's a built in pci-e card right?
[06:32] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok i dont know how to do that nalioth yes i am
[06:33] <Comrade_Vladimir> i didnt identify yet
[06:33] <ttrygve> once that backup's complete, I'll be happy to test with it, though, as I don't care about the contents of the drive as soon as this rsync is done
[06:33] <arnducky> *^#$ing Intel USB PocketCam is making Ubuntu freeze everytime I try to capture video from it....
[06:33] <vector> mrkoje, um.... i dont know if its pci-e... but its built in
[06:33] <theCore> vector: do you how to pastebin ?
[06:33] <vector> theCore, no
[06:33] <jay> anyone use rthythmbox
[06:33] <nalioth> ubuntu: tell vector about paste
[06:33] <bur[n] er> Comrade_Vladimir: #bur[n] er it is
[06:33] <bur[n] er> jay: of course
[06:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vector about paste
[06:34] <misfit_toy> jay, no, why?
[06:34] <theCore> !paste
[06:34] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> #bur[n] er andrew@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[06:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> Password:
[06:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> Reading package lists... Done
[06:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> gstreamer0.8-plugins is already the newest version.
[06:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:34] <HappyFool> heh
[06:34] <misfit_toy> ooh boy
[06:34] <Selekta> what's 5.1 surround support like on ubuntu?
[06:34] <jay> i have an ipod connected to it with like 15 to 20 mp3's on it rhythmbox only sees 1
[06:34] <vector> theCore, um ok
[06:34] <nalioth> vector: go to the pastebin, and paste your stuff, bring us back the URL
[06:34] <bur[n] er> lol... some people
[06:34] <tweek> ubuntu is way faster than debian :<
[06:35] <vector> paste what?
[06:35] <jay> any ideas burner
[06:35] <ttrygve> man, that (apt-get install gstreamer*) must be the most frequent advice in here ... there's got to be a better way to bring the Restricted Formats documentation to peoples' attention
[06:35] <bur[n] er> jay: use banshee :)
[06:35] <jay> banshee wont start
[06:35] <bur[n] er> jay: banshee is a lot better with ipods at this time
[06:35] <nalioth> vector: anything over 1 line you'd like to share with folks in here
[06:35] <bob_4_a_day> sounds like your deb wasnt setup correctly tweek
[06:35] <bur[n] er> jay: any error?
[06:35] <tweek> bob_4_a_day, it was
[06:35] <vector> theCore, what would you like pasted?
[06:36] <theCore> vector: paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network'
[06:36] <lu> #ubuntu.es/
[06:36] <ekimus> hi, anyone has good recommendations for dedicated servers from some hosting company? shouldn't be much more than 55 USD (49 EUR)
[06:36] <bur[n] er> ttrygve: u can always say "ubotu: tell blah about Restricted"
[06:36] <robotgeek> NeoFax12: you can disable the root user by 'sudo passwd -l root'
[06:36] <nalioth> bur[n] er: when comrad_vladimir comes back, advise him of "universe and multiverse", please
[06:36] <lu> #ubunto.es
[06:36] <jay> burner go here   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5062
[06:37] <HappyFool> i think it's #ubuntu-es --- try /join #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <nalioth> lu: may we help you? marque "/j #ubuntu-es"
[06:37] <lu> thanks a lot
[06:37] <wastrel> "hella"
[06:37] <bob_4_a_day> ekimus tell them to visit M$.com   then come back and talk price
[06:37] <ttrygve> well, that's cool, but I was thinking of bringing it to people's attention without them having to come in here first.  like say, a dialog box explaining why (a little better, anyway) when totem tells them it can't play an mp3
[06:37] <vector> theCore, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5063
[06:37] <tweek> I don't suppose anyone knows how to make a Windows filesystem visable in ubuntu? :<
[06:37] <bur[n] er> nalioth: no worries, i'm helping... i gave in
[06:37] <tweek> ntfs
[06:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tweek about easymount
[06:38] <mrkoje> tweek: are you trying to mount a windows share from your ubunto machine?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> jay: try the latest version of banshee I think
[06:39] <bob_4_a_day> !ntfs
[06:39] <jay> i did apt-get install banshee
[06:39] <ekimus> bob_4_a_day: what?
[06:39] <jay> so whatever breezy has
[06:39] <bur[n] er> jay: check yer msgs :)
[06:39] <ttrygve> ubotu: tell ttrygve about easymount
[06:39] <theCore> vector: okay, then paste the output of 'sudo iwconfig'
[06:39] <vector> ok
[06:39] <wastrel> i'm upgrading to breezy
[06:39] <wastrel> what's banshee?
[06:40] <tweek> mrkoje, no
[06:40] <tweek> nalioth, thanks
[06:40] <vector> theCore, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5064
[06:40] <bur[n] er> wastrel: music player
[06:40] <vector> its at the bottom
[06:41] <theCore> vector: okay, it's a driver problem
[06:41] <vector> ok so i have the wrong driver?
[06:41] <GTroy> !repos
[06:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:42] <tweek> ubotu, tell tweek about nvidia drivers
[06:42] <ryu> testin,testing
[06:42] <tweek> :O
[06:42] <tweek> he doesn't know :(
[06:42] <theCore> vector: you just don't have them, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[06:42] <nalioth> tweek, you need to register
[06:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tweek about register
[06:42] <mattsm> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu not pause if a network connect is not connected? I am using a laptop with and sometimes I used ethernet... if the connection is down I want to skip that interface. Any ideas?
[06:42] <tweek> I need to identify :] 
[06:43] <ryu> .................................
[06:43] <Tweek888> ubotu, tell tweek about nvidia drivers
[06:43] <vector> um
[06:43] <wastrel> mattsm, really irritating eh?
[06:43] <ooPo> stop pauses by hitting ctrl-c
[06:43] <mattsm> wastrel: yes
[06:43] <wastrel> mattsm, you can hit ctrl-c
[06:43] <sethk> mattsm, if you aren't using dhcp it doesn't pause
[06:43] <ryu> llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[06:43] <Tweek888> meh, he still doesn't know :] 
[06:43] <vector> theCore, i think 5.10 i just got it
[06:43] <mattsm> sethk: well I use DHCP and I use different networks
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tweek888 about nvidia
[06:44] <Tweek888> nalioth, is this for compatible with hoary?
[06:44] <bob_4_a_day> wastrel that used to kill init at that early stage of the startup process, are you sure it's safe to ^C while booting ?
[06:44] <nalioth> Tweek888: it should be, yes
[06:44] <sethk> mattsm, details, details
[06:44] <wastrel> bob_4_a_day, it works on my lappy
[06:44] <nalioth> bob_4_a_day: only use ^C for the things you dont want to load
[06:44] <wastrel> skips the network init pause and continues booting
[06:45] <jknife> whats the place holder pkg for kde(installs it w/one pkg)
[06:45] <eatnumber1> can someone help me setup vnc to allow remote connections from browser (port 5800 connections)
[06:45] <technomanc1> wastrel: i do that all the time too
[06:45] <bob_4_a_day> then init has been changed.   that's good.
[06:45] <mattsm> sethk: i take it there is no other way?
[06:45] <theCore> vector: you will need ndiswrapper
[06:46] <Tweek888> cool thanks nalioth
[06:46] <nasimuto> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops <- I have HP Omnibook XE2 DC - should i install that custom laptop version ?
[06:46] <sethk> mattsm, you can set the interface to not come up at boot time
[06:46] <sethk> mattsm, then bring it up manually when you want to use it.
[06:46] <sethk> mattsm, but AFAIK you can't make it smart
[06:46] <sethk> nasimuto, I  always install the stock version first
[06:47] <nalioth> nasimuto: does your model match waht is on that page?
[06:47] <sethk> nasimuto, I've found that frequently the fixes for a laptop from the previous version get into the mainline code
[06:47] <vector> theCore,  um yeah... i have it and loaded that driver with it...
[06:47] <eatnumber1> can someone give me a hand setting up either ubuntu, or vnc to allow remote desktop connections on the java applet on port 5800?
[06:47] <nasimuto> nalioth: no, it doesnt even match the model family
[06:47] <sethk> nasimuto, in that case, you absolutely want to try the normal install first
[06:48] <nasimuto> ok
[06:48] <nalioth> nasimuto: then no. use the regular install disk
[06:48] <nasimuto> sethk: i ask this because after activating xfce4-sensors (hardware sensors) the whole xfwdm froze
[06:48] <bur[n] er> nasimuto: doesn't look like the same model to me
[06:48] <theCore> vector: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/ndiswrapper
[06:49] <eatnumber1> can someone give me a hand setting up either ubuntu, or vnc to allow remote desktop connections on the java applet on port 5800?
[06:49] <mattsm> sethk: thats not exacally what I am looking for, but thanks for the help
[06:49] <no> how can i view if any user are spy in my pc?
[06:49] <no> i got one
[06:49] <sethk> mattsm, I don't think what you are looking for exists, but keep looking in case I'm wrong
[06:49] <no> how can i delete he
[06:50] <d03boy> yo dudes, I need some uber duber help
[06:50] <bur[n] er> eatnumber1: if you're not tied to a java applet based vnc, u can use vino and a vnc client on port 5900
[06:50] <nasimuto> where can i get ubuntu desktop wallpapers ? (i mean the ubuntu official, that was in the gnome release)
[06:50] <d03boy> I followed the wiki to upgrade from hoary to breezy and it failed miserably... i cant load X now
[06:50] <bur[n] er> d03boy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:50] <nalioth> no: perhaps you would like to habla espanol aqui #ubuntu-es o portugues aqui #ubuntu-br
[06:50] <eatnumber1> bur[n] er i need one with a java applet
[06:51] <bur[n] er> eatnumber1: if you find one, let me know ;)
[06:51] <d03boy> bur[n] er: that doesnt work , i end up getting some error
[06:51] <eatnumber1> bur[n] er: lol
[06:51] <mattsm> sethk: you can run scripts, like pre-up and post-down
[06:51] <mattsm> sethk: so if something fails, it won't load the interface
[06:51] <mattsm> sethk: but it is hackish
[06:51] <Black_Hat> hey guys...so ive got a bit of a problem
[06:51] <d03boy> bur[n] er: and it still shows up as the hoary version
[06:51] <bur[n] er> d03boy: did you dist-upgrade?
[06:51] <vector> ok well i have a question.... i have installed and used ndiswrapper... it is not working correctly... it did not create a wlan0 for me... can anyone help me please?
[06:51] <d03boy> bur[n] er: yes
[06:51] <trygve> could I make a minor suggestion to whoever has control over ubotu ... could he be made to accept messages from unregistered users (http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg)
[06:52] <Black_Hat> i got ubuntu's gui working...apparent there is a bug in ubuntu that will cause gnome to hang when loading if the date is not set correctly, but now...im trying to insta
[06:52] <sethk> mattsm, anything you are going to try/find is going to be hackish
[06:52] <wastrel> ctrl-c is the best solution for now unfortunately
[06:52] <bur[n] er> trygve: nope... it's a freenode setting... not an ubotu setting
[06:52] <Black_Hat> install a prism2 module, and even when i give it the path of the module to install it tlels me that it cannot find the module
[06:52] <d03boy> bur[n] er: i think it actually ended up having a few errors (I have no idea why though)
[06:52] <wastrel> it works good fortunately
[06:52] <nalioth> trygve: it was done before, but abuse happened
[06:52] <trygve> really?  that sucks
[06:52] <Black_Hat> any ideas of what i can do?
[06:52] <trygve> the bot was abused?
[06:52] <sethk> trygve, why not just register?
[06:52] <trygve> was it hacked?  or just spammed like the freenode page says is the problem?
[06:52] <bur[n] er> d03boy: try another dist-upgrade
[06:53] <wastrel> i imagine people put inaccurate info in the bot
[06:53] <wastrel> dunno the real story tho
[06:53] <trygve> oh, I'm about to do that, too, but it just seemed to make sense to make it easier for people to get helpful information
[06:53] <d03boy> bur[n] er: ok, i'll see how it works, bbiab
[06:53] <vector> when i do a 'modprobe ndiswrapper' o get opperation not permitted
[06:53] <bur[n] er> vector: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[06:53] <trygve> I was originally logging in with gaim, and couldn't figure out why I couldn't msg people
[06:54] <trygve> it wasn't until I switched to xchat that I started seeing the messages telling me why & what to do about it
[06:54] <bur[n] er> trygve: the client makes no difference
[06:54] <nalioth> trygve: immense hordes of spambots have caused all this unfriendliness
[06:54] <vector> bur[n] er, yeah i am sudo -s right now
[06:54] <no> i got a spyware in my linux , how can  i delete it?
[06:54] <jknife> ??
[06:54] <trygve> I know the client doesn't matter to my ability send msg's, but I didn't see the message explaining why until I switched
[06:54] <jknife> no, how did you do that>
[06:54] <jknife> ?*
[06:54] <bur[n] er> lol @ no
[06:54] <Madpilot> no: I doubt you've got spyware...
[06:54] <no> i got one
[06:55] <bur[n] er> trygve: aww
[06:55] <no> how can i remove it
[06:55] <HappyFool> no: why do you think you have spyware?
[06:55] <no> a spy-user its on my pc
[06:55] <no> :S
[06:55] <jknife> if you did you go down in linux histroy as the FIRST person to admit it
[06:55] <trygve> it was just a suggestion, I figured it might help some people
[06:55] <bur[n] er> no: how did you find this "spy-user"
[06:55] <trygve> didn't mean to cause a fuss
[06:55] <vector> bur[n] er, any other ideas....
[06:55] <bur[n] er> vector: nope
[06:55] <no> becouse i accept a .mp3 and i open it and no problem , few minutes later the song play alone and a lot of windows began to open
[06:55] <vector> anyone?
[06:55] <nalioth> trygve: no fuss, it was done before, but as you know, one loser spoils it for everyone
[06:56] <sethk> no, this may be the dawn of a new age
[06:56] <bob_4_a_day> no what ever you do, do not    'rm $HOME/* -rf '    cause that will remove all customization and any thing that is "user installed" includint spy/mal/ware.
[06:56] <opiate> how do you change the ports on gnome-btdownload?
[06:56] <HappyFool> no: what sort of windows?
[06:56] <trygve> so, this may be a dumb question, but what's it matter if a *bot* receives spam?  was it eating up too many cpu cycles?
[06:56] <sethk> not doing rm -fr with _any_ expression with an * in it is a good idea  :)
[06:56] <HappyFool> trygve: there were bots generating spam ;)
[06:56] <sethk> zsh has a feature which will stop, wait ten seconds, and ask if you really mean it.
[06:56] <nalioth> opiate: read this and start gnome-torrent accordingly http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[06:56] <bur[n] er> opiate: good question... if you find out, let me know... otherwise use ktorrent :)
[06:56] <no> bob_4_a_day,  can u explain me i didnt understand i dont speak good english , can u explain with basic words please
[06:57] <no> :D
[06:57] <trygve> okay ... but why's that mean this one can't *receive* messages?
[06:57] <sethk> actually ask, and wait ten seconds before processing any answer
[06:57] <nalioth> bur[n] er: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[06:57] <sethk> to get rid of the automatic "yes" reflex
[06:57] <bob_4_a_day> no no
[06:57] <trygve> nevermind, it's unimportant, I was just curious
[06:57] <vector> does anyone here know how to use ndiswrapper?
[06:57] <HappyFool> no: what sort of windows opened? browser windows?
[06:57] <bur[n] er> nalioth: i think technically gnome-torrent is a seperate app
[06:57] <nalioth> bur[n] er: it doesnt matter, the flags work for any of em
[06:57] <no> HappyFool, firefox
[06:58] <bur[n] er> nalioth: fancy... i never knew :)
[06:58] <HellDragon> hi
[06:58] <HellDragon> KDE and GNOME are include with Ubuntu?
[06:58] <vector> well i thank you guys for all the help
[06:58] <sethk> no, that doesn't sound like spyware or trojan behavior.  More likely an out of control browser app
[06:58] <nalioth> bur[n] er: that is, any of em based on bittorent code (not sure about azureus)
[06:58] <bur[n] er> no:  can i have that mp3?
[06:58] <rixth> Why doez azureus not work? Ahh. All ports are open. The port tester says it is open too.
[06:58] <sethk> HellDragon, depends on what you mean by included
[06:58] <WolfManz611> does the latest live cd play mp3 files?
[06:58] <HellDragon> on the CDs :P
[06:59] <sethk> HellDragon, gnome is always installed
[06:59] <HellDragon> and KDE?
[06:59] <sethk> HellDragon, you can choose to install kde, or not
[06:59] <rixth> WolfManz611, doubt it
[06:59] <theCore> no, what your native language ?
[06:59] <HellDragon> yay
[06:59] <sethk> HellDragon, but, there is also a kubuntu cd with kde already installed
[06:59] <no> bur[n] er,  i removed it
[06:59] <logical_mark> hey does anyone know a good "All-In-One" package to install that will setup apache, php, mySQL, and phpMyAdmin?
[06:59] <no> theCore,  spanish
[06:59] <rixth> logical_mark, LAMP
[06:59] <bur[n] er> no: if you ever get it again, i want it ;)
[06:59] <sethk> logical_mark, webadmin
[06:59] <no> but in the spanis room , noone help me
[06:59] <sethk> logical_mark, does exactly that
[06:59] <sethk> logical_mark, plus a bunch of other servers and things
[06:59] <bur[n] er> WolfManz611: no
[07:00] <bur[n] er> WolfManz611: there are legal issues
[07:00] <sethk> logical_mark, has a nice plug in architecture, with many stable available plugins
[07:00] <no> bur[n] er,  ok
[07:00] <HellDragon> brb i'll dl ubuntu with windows(and ill remove Debian(too hard))
[07:00] <WolfManz611> ok that make sence
[07:00] <theCore> no: okay, then explain what exactly is happening
[07:00] <logical_mark> sethk, thanks, what about rixth suggestion of LAMP?
[07:00] <sethk> logical_mark, I used it to set up email plus web mail, and webmail includes php
[07:00] <no> becouse i accept a .mp3 and i open it and no problem , few minutes later the song play alone and a lot of windows began to open
[07:00] <sethk> logical_mark, I don't know it well
[07:01] <sethk> logical_mark, so I can't compare
[07:01] <sethk> logical_mark, but I've not heard anything bad about it
[07:01] <rixth> logical_mark, LAMP = linux, apache, php (the p cann also mean python or perl, so look out)
[07:01] <logical_mark> rixth thanks
[07:01] <theCore> no, i think the mp3 is the problem
[07:01] <HappyFool> no: what mp3 player are you using?
[07:01] <logical_mark> I'll look into both guys thanks a ton
[07:02] <Locke> how do i uninstall KDE?
[07:02] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-php4 mysql phpmyadmin
[07:02] <no> xmms
[07:02] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: or php5 of course
[07:02] <logical_mark> bur[n] er, I did that but I don't know how to configure apache to use php and such
[07:02] <theCore> theCore: try to make a new user, see if it's solve the problem
[07:02] <Locke> is there any way to uninstall KDE and everything that came with it?
[07:03] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: uncomment the 2 lines in "AddType" that have .php in them in the file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[07:03] <logical_mark> bur[n] er, also I only installed apache not apache2, which I am unfamillar with
[07:03] <HappyFool> no: were you using firefox at the same time?
[07:03] <Locke> anybody?
[07:03] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: err... /etc/apache/httpd.conf then
[07:03] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: that's all... i swear
[07:03] <no> yeas
[07:04] <Black_Hat> guys
[07:04] <HappyFool> no: it is more likely the web-page you were browsing. I don't think an mp3 file can cause browser windows to open
[07:04] <Black_Hat> i cant get this module to load
[07:04] <HappyFool> no: can you tell us what website you were on?
[07:04] <no> ok i hope
[07:04] <bur[n] er> Locke: short answer... no... long answer... sudo apt-get remove k* :)  though that may do a lot more harm than good
[07:04] <bur[n] er> no: you don't have spyware
[07:04] <no> now , i cant, becouse i close it
[07:05] <Locke> *sigh*
[07:05] <no> i hope
[07:05] <Locke> it's driving me nuts
[07:05] <bur[n] er> Locke: u can go through synaptic to remove it all
[07:05] <Locke> there are about 5000000000000 programs that i DON'T want and i don't want to uninstall everything manually
[07:05] <robotgeek> Locke: you can try removing kdebase, that should take care of most of the stuff
[07:05] <HappyFool> no: i agree with bur[n] er. I strongly doubt you have any spyware.
[07:05] <jknife> there is a way to remove a pkg and all it deps but i forgot
[07:05] <no> ok cool
[07:05] <no> thanbks 4 ur help boys
[07:05] <no> :P
[07:05] <nalioth> Locke: open synaptic and search for kdebase and kdelibs
[07:06] <bob_4_a_day> an mp3 might be a good place to put it though......
[07:06] <mrkoje> no, tiene muy feliz dia acciones de gracias?
[07:06] <logical_mark> bur[n] er, how do I restart apache to see if that worked?
[07:06] <Locke> well, i typed in remove k* and it popped up with more filest hani  knew i had
[07:06] <no> mkoje que?
[07:06] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart
[07:06] <no> mrkoje,  que?
[07:07] <Locke> lol, thats why, it IS every file i have on my computer
[07:07] <nalioth> amigos, habla espanol en #ubuntu-es, por favor
[07:07] <mrkoje> tu tienes feliz dia acciones de gracias?
[07:07] <bur[n] er> Locke: i was totally kidding ;)
[07:07] <logical_mark> bur[n] er, I have never seen the invoke command. Could you point me to where I can learn more about it
[07:07] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: man invoke-rc.d
[07:07] <Locke> hey, i ain't too smart
[07:07] <Locke> gotta level with me
[07:08] <nalioth> Locke: read what i typed, please
[07:08] <bur[n] er> Locke: listen to nalioth
[07:08] <Locke> i am
[07:08] <logical_mark> bur[n] er, thanks, also, now that I uncommented those lines, it keeps asking me to download files that are .php
[07:08] <Locke> nalioth: so what do you want me to do, just uninstall everything that comes up in the search?
[07:09] <tjcracker> is there a command like ipconfig for linux
[07:09] <technomanc1> tjcracker: ifconfig, sort of
[07:09] <nalioth> Locke: no, just those two and kdesdk kdeaddons
[07:09] <technomanc1> ifup and ifdown are also handy
[07:09] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: u didn't do the right one then ;)
[07:09] <nalioth> Locke: and that should take care of most things
[07:09] <bur[n] er> logical_mark:    AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[07:09] <logical_mark> lol - thanks bur[n] er
[07:10] <Locke> naloith: i have kdebase, kdebase - data, kdebase bin, kdebase such and such
[07:11] <bur[n] er> Locke: all of them
[07:11] <jay> how do i get mplayer on ubuntu
[07:11] <bur[n] er> !mplayer
[07:11] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:12] <jknife> !kernel-source
[07:12] <ubotu> jknife: I give up, what is it?
[07:12] <gnugeek> please help, How do I write Multisession CDs on Ubuntu
[07:12] <jknife> !kernel source
[07:12] <ubotu> jknife: I give up, what is it?
[07:12] <bur[n] er> jknife: please msg ubotu
[07:12] <gnugeek> anyone here?
[07:12] <nalioth> jknife: what are you after?
[07:12] <jknife> kernel-source
[07:12] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:12] <gnugeek> please help, I need to write multisession cd
[07:13] <nalioth> jknife: in your synaptic, search for "linux-source"
[07:13] <theCore> gnugeek: we heard the first time
[07:13] <gnugeek> mr burner can you burn?
[07:13] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:13] <Amaranth> gnugeek: get gnomebaker
[07:13] <jknife> i dont like synaptic..  i use a terminal and apt-get
[07:13] <gnugeek> I can do it in cdrecord, but I want GUI
[07:13] <bur[n] er> gnomebaker does multi-session?
[07:13] <bur[n] er> jknife: apt-cache search linux-source
[07:13] <jknife> ty
[07:13] <gnugeek> to show off my friends that ubuntu can do same things as xp
[07:13] <Madpilot> gnugeek: K3b does multisession, I think
[07:14] <jknife> try k3b
[07:14] <theCore> gnugeek: that it's GnomeBaker
[07:14] <gnugeek> k3b spoils gnome's smoothness
[07:14] <gnugeek> how to do it in gnome baker
[07:14] <Madpilot> K3B doesn't crash; Gnomebaker does (for me, at least...)
[07:15] <bur[n] er> gnomebaker works here
[07:15] <gnugeek> so should i "apt-get install k3b" and try it in it?
[07:15] <bur[n] er> gnugeek: try gnomebaker & graveman first
[07:15] <bur[n] er> gnugeek: so you don't spoil gnome's smoothness ;)
[07:15] <gnugeek> I'm on graveman and gnomebkare
[07:15] <_SD_Keo> Does ubuntu's kernel support network bridging?
[07:15] <gnugeek> but I cant find multisession buttion
[07:15] <gnugeek> button^
[07:16] <tony_> could somebody walk me through installing swat?
[07:16] <gnugeek> is on-the-fly multisession?
[07:16] <tony_> I've installed it but going to localhost:901 gets me nothing...
[07:16] <theCore> gnugeek: lol , that because there's no  multisession buttion
[07:16] <Belutz> gnugeek, maybe you have to burn it using tao mode
[07:16] <jknife> there shipping kubuntu and ubuntu in one set next release?
[07:17] <gnugeek> in graveman I've the button but it is not highlighted
[07:17] <Black_Hat> can someone help me figure out what the hell is wrong that i cannot load this module?
[07:17] <Belutz> gnugeek, if you have spare money, you could get NeroLinux :p
[07:18] <snausages> k3b is great, come on
[07:18] <gnugeek> I can risk! I've some mirrors who will provide that
[07:18] <Locke> i'm supposed to be uninstalling that says everything with kdebase in it, right?
[07:18] <theCore> gnugeek: in gnomebaker, you import session
[07:18] <Amaranth> jknife: i believe they're trying to make combined live/install cds so instead of sending you an ubuntu live cd and an ubuntu install cd they can send you an ubuntu cd and a kubuntu cd
[07:18] <gnugeek> but I'm GNU's best friend
[07:18] <Belutz> yup, but k3b and gnomebaker is great
[07:18] <Black_Hat> guys...
[07:18] <Black_Hat> puhleese
[07:18] <nalioth> Locke: yes, kde* will probably get rid of most of it
[07:19] <gnugeek> ls
[07:19] <jknife> ahh ok
[07:19] <gnugeek> sorry^
[07:19] <tony_> hey could someone help me with swat plz?
[07:19] <jknife> Amaranth, i dont see why they couldn't they could do what knoppix did
[07:20] <Amaranth> jknife: different needs
[07:20] <bur[n] er> jknife: you'd think so ;)  but totally different
[07:20] <varsendagger> jknife, it's because there is more to a ubuntu distro than a base knoppix
[07:20] <jknife> "apt-get install kde" install's 3.5 right?
[07:20] <varsendagger> jknife, it'd be nice
[07:20] <bur[n] er> jknife: nope
[07:21] <jknife> i have to have it set to dapper?
[07:21] <bur[n] er> jknife: again, nope
[07:21] <bur[n] er> jknife: kubuntu.org
[07:21] <jknife> "KDE 3.5 RC 1 Released with Kubuntu Packages"
[07:21] <jknife> change my sources
[07:21] <bur[n] er> jknife: yep
[07:21] <jknife> damn
[07:21] <jknife> k
[07:23] <tony_> could someone please help me debug a swat install?
[07:24] <mrkoje> tony_: whats your problem?
[07:24] <tony_> I installed swat, and then you're supposed to change the inetd.conf file, and services and then go to localhost:901
[07:24] <tony_> the two conf files didn't need to be edited because swat was arleady there
[07:25] <tony_> but going to localhost:901 gets me nothing
[07:25] <tony_> "connection refused"
[07:25] <tony_> what gives?
[07:26] <technomanc1> tony_: never used swat, but you could try "/etc/init.d/swat start"
[07:26] <tony_> k
[07:26] <technomanc1> that's how it works for many similar services, anyway
[07:26] <jknife> swat? the game?>
[07:26] <technomanc1> samba web admin tool
[07:26] <bur[n] er> swat - the webmin tool
[07:26] <jknife> well... ok then
[07:27] <tony_> ok a quick tour thorugh /etc/init.d reveals there's no swat there :-(
[07:28] <tony_> can I just move /usr/local/samba/sbin/swat
[07:28] <tony_>  over?
[07:28] <technomanc1> no, i don't think that would help
[07:28] <bur[n] er> nope
[07:28] <tony_> damn
[07:28] <technomanc1> did you try running it directly
[07:28] <technomanc1> ?
[07:28] <bur[n] er> restart webmin?
[07:28] <tony_> it's not webmin
[07:28] <mrkoje> is there a chkconfig for ubuntu?
[07:29] <bur[n] er> no?  oh, i have no idea then ;)
[07:29] <tony_> yeah I've tried running it directly
[07:29] <mrkoje> tony_: you need to make sure that swat is running
[07:29] <Terminus> mrkoje, update-rc.d
[07:29] <mrkoje> Terminus: Thanks...  former fedora user
[07:30] <Terminus> mrkoje, cool. i haven't touched redhat since rh9. :)
[07:30] <BaZo> hi everybody
[07:30] <tony_> when I try to run it directly it does something like it's working
[07:30] <tony_> but system monitor says it's not :-(
[07:30] <tony_> oh wait scratch that
[07:30] <BaZo> can sbd tell me the sysreq for ubuntu 5.1? coulnd find them....
[07:30] <tony_> it's there
[07:30] <tony_> ok so the service is running...
[07:30] <Terminus> tony_, i don't think swat has it's own daemon. i think it's a bunch of cgi scripts on apache.
[07:31] <tony_> it's supposed to run under inetd
[07:31] <Terminus> oh... hehe. my bad.
[07:31] <tony_> which is weird... ubuntu had a inetd.conf already
[07:31] <tony_> but I see no inetd daemon on the process list
[07:31] <tony_> nor can I find the file to run it directly
[07:32] <mrkoje> terminus: i just looked at the man... can I use the update-rc.d to just list all services and their run levels? Like chkconfig --list
[07:32] <mrkoje> terminus: I don't see much
[07:33] <HappyFool> mrkoje: you can try something like rcconf or bum to do that
[07:33] <mrkoje> HappyFool: gracias
[07:34] <tony_> so uhh how would I check what's wrong with inetd?
[07:34] <jknife> i updated my sources to include kubuntu and not kde wont install due to unmet depends... (kde depends on kdesdk but kdesdk won't be installed)
[07:35] <blanky> is there an easy way to install cedega cvs on ubuntu/debian based systems?
[07:36] <Hobbsee> blanky: follow the tutorial on it?
[07:36] <blanky> Hobbsee, can you please point me to it?
[07:36] <HappyFool> jknife: try installing 'kubuntu-desktop'
[07:36] <tony_> ???
[07:37] <HappyFool> jknife: afaik there are no kubuntu-specific repos -- it should be in Ubuntu's 'main' repository
[07:37] <blanky> :) Thanks Hobbsee
[07:37] <Hobbsee> blanky: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[07:37] <Tedd> !tell tedd about repositories
[07:37] <blanky> I already googled myself lol but couldnt find
[07:37] <HappyFool> tony_: 'sudo netstat -ltp' might be useful
[07:37] <blanky> ah, that one, I tried it but it didn't work, oh well I'll try again
[07:38] <Hobbsee> that's the only one i know of, but it doesnt mean that there are more out there
[07:39] <jknife> kubuntu-desktop worked.. not it will keep gdm as my login manager right?
[07:39] <jknife> now*
[07:39] <tony_> k
[07:39] <bur[n] er> jknife: it prompts you
[07:39] <Hobbsee> jknife: it will, unless you install kdm, then it will prompt you
[07:39] <bur[n] er> kdm comes with kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <Hobbsee> does it?  it didnt use to
[07:39] <tony_> ok it isn't listening on 901
[07:39] <tony_> arghh
[07:39] <bur[n] er> no?  maybe i'm blowin smoke ;)
[07:40] <jknife> you are a burner
[07:40] <_SD_Keo> How do I set up a network bridge in ubuntu?
[07:40] <Hobbsee> jknife: try it, and tell us the results lol
[07:40] <bur[n] er> jknife: for sure... and a NORML supporter :)
[07:40] <makkk> anyone know much about power management? My system seems to be backwards. When i plug in the power cord, the screen becomes dimmer, when i unplug it, it becomes brighter
[07:40] <tony_> ok so I installed "inetutils-inetd" which should use the same conf file
[07:40] <jknife> 4min left of d/ls.. god i love cable
[07:41] <tony_> right?
[07:41] <d03boy> gah! dist-upgrade keeps failing on me
[07:41] <tony_> lol jknife: I love cable too
[07:41] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: it's included ;)  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/kubuntu-desktop
[07:41] <tony_> we live in the middle of nowhere so I have a 5 meg connection all to muhself!
[07:41] <d03boy> once it gets to unpacking/install kdevelop it has some problems--not sure what the problems are though
[07:41] <Hobbsee> bur[n] er: right, ok, i know it wasnt in hoary
[07:41] <Hobbsee> i stand corrected
[07:41] <bur[n] er> makkk: unplug... dim your screen... plug in... lighten your screen... it will remember this
[07:42] <_SD_Keo> How do I set up a network bridge in ubuntu?
[07:42] <makkk> bur[n] er, you mean do it manually?
[07:42] <bur[n] er> makkk: yeah
[07:42] <makkk> wow. it works
[07:42] <makkk> very interesting
[07:42] <jknife> lol
[07:42] <makkk> thanks
[07:43] <bur[n] er> np :)
[07:43] <jknife> point gotos bur[n] er
[07:43] <holycow> http://www.motionmountain.net/  <-- this should be a good test for evince
[07:43] <holycow> 1200 page pdf
[07:43] <holycow> >_<
[07:43] <d03boy> can someone solve my problem before I have to murder my cat :\
[07:44] <jknife> kubuntu-desktop does include kdm
[07:44] <Hobbsee> jknife: i stand corrected
[07:44] <jknife> i just saw it d/l it
[07:44] <bur[n] er> jknife: nice thing about kde 3.5 is that it works with gdm :)  u can actually shut down the pC from kde while using gdm :)
[07:44] <jknife> 2 points for bun-bun
[07:44] <_SD_Keo> No it's not samba, I want to use eth1 and eth0 together.
[07:44] <jknife> bur[n] er,
[07:44] <jknife> srry bun-bun no points for u
[07:44] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy nah, kill that cat and then we'll work on it.
[07:44] <jknife> thay fixed that?
[07:45] <d03boy> i lied, i dont have a cat, i hate cats
[07:45] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: i think u can do stuff like that with ipmasquerading ?
[07:45] <jknife> whew.. i was annonyion in the prev versions
[07:45] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: firestarter is a gui to do it :)
[07:45] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy what error ?
[07:45] <tony_> ok umm so I have inetutils-inetd installed now
[07:45] <tony_> how do I tell which config file it's pulling from?
[07:45] <_SD_Keo> bur[n] er, sounds inserting
[07:45] <d03boy> bob_4_a_day: im not even sure..... it ended up having an errorcode(1) though... whatever that is
[07:45] <jknife> ITS ASKING ME!!1 YAY!!!
[07:46] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: http://www.fs-security.com/  <---does internet connection sharing  (sudo apt-get install firestarter)
[07:46] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy what command has errorcode 1 ?
[07:46] <_SD_Keo> or I could use this nifty synaptic
[07:46] <Brunellus_> I have lm-sensors and I've decided I want to use the ISA isntead of SMBus. how do I change that
[07:46] <Brunellus_> or how do I remove lm-sensor and all the kernel modules it loads?
[07:47] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: or that... your call :)  I'm curious how well or not well it works for you, so let me know! :)
[07:47] <d03boy> bob_4_a_day: i beleive its actually the apt-get dist-upgrade thats having the error, but I think its due to the kdevelop package not being able to be installed
[07:47] <jknife> well im out.. ttyl
[07:47] <_SD_Keo> bur[n] er, I'll try it
[07:47] <Brunellus_> anybody?
[07:48] <Hobbsee> Brunellus_: er, sudo aptitude remove imsensors?
[07:48] <bur[n] er> d03boy: apt-get -f install ??
[07:48] <d03boy> tried that, it ends up with problems
[07:48] <Gent> is there a separate channel for PPC support?
[07:49] <bur[n] er> d03boy: problems being?  something about blah exists in package blah?
[07:49] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy all repos are right ?
[07:49] <d03boy> bob_4_a_day: i copied and pasted from the wiki... so I'm assuming they are right
[07:49] <Gent> anyone?
[07:50] <Brunellus_> will I also need to remove sensors.conf?
[07:50] <d03boy> bur[n] er: i'm not even sure, I'd have to check again which takes a few minutes
[07:50] <Madpilot> Gent: this is it - there are a few PPC users around, usually
[07:50] <bur[n] er> Gent: ubuntu-ppc?
[07:50] <Gent> Yeah
[07:50] <Insane> Hi
[07:50] <Hobbsee> Brunellus_: not sure
[07:50] <bur[n] er> d03boy: i'd say keep doing apt-get -f install until you get no errors... then apt-get dist-upgrade till no errors
[07:51] <Gent> basically looking to share the home directory between the two... but Ubuntu won't see the FS properly if I format UFS in OS X, so I wanted to format UFS in Ubuntu and see if OS X would see it
[07:51] <Gent> but it doesn't appear to have the mkfs for UFS, and I can't find it anywhere in the apt sources
[07:51] <Insane> I am so glad! I am finally getting ubuntu to upgrade....very easy...considering
[07:51] <bur[n] er> Gent: can OS X see ext3 partitions?
[07:51] <d03boy> bur[n] er: ive done it a few times and i'm pertty sure its the same errors...... but i'll try doing it a few times to make sure
[07:51] <Gent> not without a special driver
[07:51] <pbransford> ok i have an odd request...
[07:51] <Hobbsee> d03boy: can you post the output of what fails and all that to pastebin?
[07:51] <Gent> and I'm not sure how mature the hfsplus driver is, last time I could only mount read only with the hfsplus driver
[07:51] <yh> Gent: hformat ?
[07:51] <bur[n] er> Gent: so why not use a "special" driver?
[07:51] <yh> Gent: ja, still only read-only
[07:52] <Gent> bur[n] er, not sure how stable it is
[07:52] <d03boy> Hobbsee: not unless I can get networking and lynx to work or something
[07:52] <Gent> yh, what's hformat?
[07:52] <pbransford> I have a script in /etc/init.d (responds to start, stop, restart) that I want run at startup along with networking
[07:52] <d03boy> Hobbsee: do you know where i can find th elog?
[07:52] <pbransford> how do i do that?
[07:52] <d03boy> Hobbsee: if I can find the log I can just put it on another shared drive i have
[07:52] <Hobbsee> d03boy: it should just say what was kept back, and didnt upgrade itself
[07:52] <yh> Gent: looks like a mkfs for HFS
[07:52] <yh> Gent: from the man page: "hformat - create a new HFS filesystem and make it current"
[07:52] <Gent> just regular HFS?
[07:52] <Gent> not hfs+ ?
[07:52] <Gent> can linux read/write HFS?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> Gent: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/  <-that can mount ext2/3 in OS X
[07:53] <varsendagger> SWAT, hey fubutu!!!!
[07:53] <Insane> Can I ask a question? I have a Nvidia video card, FX 5200, and I don't exactly know how to intstall it. I need to so by screen resolution can be set above 1024 x whatever.
[07:53] <pbransford> I used "http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/" - I tested it out and the script works perfect. its in /etc/init.d/firewall.sh
[07:53] <Gent> bur[n] er, but as a home partition? or is it a separate app that does it once I'm in?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> !tell Insane about nvidia
[07:53] <d03boy> Hobbsee: im pretty sure thats not the case... i think its an abornal error... i dont think it actually ever finishes
[07:53] <pbransford> permissions are the same as all the other files in there
[07:53] <bur[n] er> Gent: i guess I don't know... you could just mount it anywhere... then symlink the home dir to that new location?
[07:53] <yh> Gent: good question, I am not sure
[07:53] <Insane> k. Thanks!
[07:54] <yh> sounds like your problem is that you've gotta have the partition mounted when OS X boots eh
[07:54] <Gent> I mean, there's different ways to go, but I need it 100% automated and as stable as possible
[07:54] <Hobbsee> d03boy: what doesnt seem to be upgrading?  there's got to be some way that you know it's failing
[07:54] <Gent> yh, I do, OS X can read/write HFS, HFS+, and UFS
[07:54] <themachine> are there any good programming irc channels? like C or Java?
[07:54] <Gent> it's just a matter of what's the best for Linux
[07:54] <d03boy> Hobbsee: it gets an error when unpacking/installing kdevelop
[07:54] <yh> Gent: I would imagine that UFS support in linux is better than the first two
[07:55] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: error being?
[07:55] <yh> but I am definitely not an authority on this one
[07:55] <yh> (or anything really) : P
[07:55] <Hobbsee> d03boy: sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[07:55] <Gent> that's what I thought, but I have no way to format it UFS in Ubuntu PPC
[07:55] <bur[n] er> er... d03boy, error being?
[07:55] <trygve> so, I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage & http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, but is there a way to get ubotu itself to list the factoids it knows about?
[07:55] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: it's kdevelop3 ;)
[07:55] <yh> Gent: really
[07:55] <Hobbsee> d03boy: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 then lol
[07:55] <d03boy> Hobbsee: tried that, same error (if i remember correctly)
[07:55] <Gent> not from what I can see
[07:55] <bur[n] er> d03boy: sudo apt-get remove kdevelop3 :)
[07:55] <Hobbsee> then paste what you get from the terminal into pastebin...
[07:55] <d03boy> i think i tried that too, i'll try it again
[07:56] <Insane> Another question...I am upgrading through terminal.....all these upgrades to breezy are like 400 MB, and I want to know whether these upgrades will aply themselves automatically or not. I used these instructions, via terminal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:56] <d03boy> Hobbsee: I cant paste because i cant get into X
[07:56] <Hobbsee> ah, i see, yes
[07:56] <bur[n] er> Insane: they will
[07:56] <Hobbsee> Insane: yes, it will be automatic
[07:56] <Insane> Thank you, bur[n] er and Hobbsee
[07:56] <bur[n] er> Insane: coming from hoary right?
[07:56] <bam_> anyone got an "alternative" idea for a widow manager for ubuntu
[07:56] <Insane> Yes
[07:56] <Gent> if I could get ubuntu to format that, I'm fairly sure I'd be fine
[07:57] <bur[n] er> Insane: you're all good then :)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> bam_: gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox?
[07:57] <varsendagger> bam Fluxbox
[07:57] <d03boy> Insane: i hope you dont have the same problems as I do :O
[07:57] <Insane> I JUST installed Hoary when I realised it was one of my older CD's I am using
[07:57] <yh> Gent: it sounds like even UFS might be iffy
[07:57] <varsendagger> xfce is good for the beginer
[07:57] <bam_> tried flux, didnt suit well
[07:57] <bur[n] er> bam_: gnome, kde, fluxbox, xfce, windowmaker, pekwm, matchbox, icewm
[07:57] <bur[n] er> bam_: xubuntu-desktop :)
[07:57] <bam_> hmmm matchbox...
[07:57] <Insane> So, it is a fresh installation of Hoary, which i am upgrading. No other packages installed
[07:57] <Gent> Why's that?
[07:58] <bam_> havent tried that one yet
[07:58] <d03boy> Hobbsee, bur[n] er: what do you suggest I do first?
[07:58] <yh> Gent: I'm just reading some things that suggest UFS support in linux is iffy too
[07:58] <Hobbsee> d03boy: find some way to copy the error, and to save what is in the terminal, on your machine
[07:58] <d03boy> ok... i'll be back in a little while
[07:58] <bur[n] er> d03boy: using irssi on that machine?
[07:59] <Insane> How many upgraed thingys are there, if you installed fresh from Hoary, with no extra packagaes? I am at Get: 96
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: if you are, we can all join #flood :)
[07:59] <yh> Gent: are you running Tiger?
[07:59] <d03boy> bur[n] er: no i just booted into windows
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: bleh
[07:59] <d03boy> bur[n] er: i'll see if i can install irssi
[07:59] <yh> (or planning on it)
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: irssi-text
[07:59] <Gent> yeah, I'm running tiger
[07:59] <d03boy> bur[n] er: ok, be back soon i hope
[07:59] <Hobbsee> d03boy: should already be there
[07:59] <d03boy> k
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: /server irc.freenode.net
[07:59] <bob_4_a_day> Insane probably about 300
[07:59] <yh> Gent: ok, then ext2/ext3 seems like a no go
[07:59] <Insane> kk
[07:59] <Madpilot> Insane: you're upgrading to Breezy? there are lots of them...
[08:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:00] <Insane> Well, now I am at 110
[08:00] <Hobbsee> bur[n] er: isnt it /connect irc.freenode.net?
[08:00] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: i bet that works too... mines all in a ~/.irssi/config ;)
[08:00] <Hobbsee> hehe nice
[08:00] <Insane> Got my ADSL line a month ago, so this is going fairly fast...compared to what i was used to
[08:00] <yh> Gent: I would try hformat in linux
[08:01] <yh> on a partition
[08:01] <Insane> Package number 140
[08:01] <yh> try reading and writing to it for a while, running off of it, etc.
[08:01] <holycow> okay thats it.  totem mozilla plugins are getting removed
[08:01] <yh> not sure if you have to mess with Tiger to make sure it doesn't turn it into hfs+
[08:01] <holycow> its amazing that they can be packaged when they don't work
[08:01] <bob_4_a_day>  /servchan irc.freenode.net #ubuntu 6667
[08:02] <Gent> let me try and format it as HFS again using the tiger CD
[08:02] <Gent> and see if I can get linux to mount it read/write
[08:03] <bob_4_a_day> any fs that can use permissions like ext2 and wont die if power fails like vfat doesnt  ????
[08:04] <trygve> holycow: I did the same thing
[08:04] <bob_4_a_day> i want linux on vfat with inode perms
[08:04] <Insane> oh wait...I just noticed something....I am on package 160...and it is only 16%.....at least te thing says it will take about 2h 51m...is that timer correct, because the windows timer couln't count
[08:04] <Gent> from what I've read OS X doesn't like the hformatted partitions
[08:05] <bob_4_a_day> Insane "correct" no.   but a guess, yes.
[08:05] <Gent> WTF...
[08:05] <bob_4_a_day> Insane it will be in the neighbourhood
[08:05] <Gent> now I can't format this as HFS
[08:05] <Insane> But to the windows timer, at least on my PC, it considered 1 second to be 2 1/2 minutes...
[08:05] <Madpilot> Insane: it's passingly accurate - better than the Windows one, IIRC
[08:06] <Insane> It was frustrating
[08:06] <bob_4_a_day> yeah
[08:06] <yh> Gent: ?
[08:06] <Gent> yah?
[08:07] <Insane> Are there like templates availible to change the ubuntu linux look? Or themes....or anything....should probably wait until after the upgrade before doing anything, though...
[08:08] <Madpilot> !tell Insane about themes
[08:08] <yh> Gent: something acting up?
[08:08] <linkd> Insane: you have windows managers.. u have gtk themes. both influence the overall look of the system
[08:08] <phillijw> okie dokie
[08:08] <bob_4_a_day> file system question,      can linux be installed on vfat ?
[08:08] <d03boy> now... to switch consoles its alt+fsomething?
[08:09] <bob_4_a_day> yep
[08:09] <tony_> hey I'm having a really crappy time trying to get samba working
[08:09] <bam_> anyone got matchbox running/
[08:09] <linkd> d03boy: alt+fn where n is a number
[08:09] <d03boy> k
[08:09] <bob_4_a_day> 1-6
[08:09] <tony_> would someone be willing to vnc to my box and help me through it?
[08:09] <Insane> Oh my soul..i just noticed that you are using a bot to tell me about themes....lazy
[08:09] <Gent> yeah, I thought I could format HFS from the tiger disk
[08:09] <Gent> I can't
[08:09] <linkd> Insane: efficent :P
[08:09] <linkd> Insane: since the same question may have been asked hundreds of times
[08:09] <bob_4_a_day> unless you have enabled more consoles, you only have 1-6 by default.
[08:10] <Madpilot> Insane: very effecient ;)
[08:10] <Insane> lol
[08:10] <Madpilot> *efficient, even
[08:10] <teja> join  #ubuntuforums
[08:10] <yh> Gent: only hfs+ ?
[08:11] <teja> #join ubuntuforums
[08:11] <trygve> teja: try "/join #ubuntuforums" =p
[08:11] <Gent> yeah, looks like it
[08:11] <linkd> teja: i think u mean /join ?:P
[08:11] <Gent> do you know if ubuntu ppc is supposed to read/write hfsplus by default?
[08:11] <teja> I am new to IRc
[08:11] <Bollenator> teja, and you probably want #ubuntu
[08:12] <d03boy> ok, first things first: when I run a dist-upgrade first thing I get is unmet dependencies
[08:12] <linkd> teja: np. to join a channel you type "/join #channelname"
[08:12] <yh> Gent: it only reads I believe
[08:12] <Gent> according to everything I read it does, but it didn't work for me
[08:12] <yh> maybe I'm wrong
[08:12] <teja> ok
[08:12] <trygve> Bollenator: he's already in #ubuntu, I don't think he was trying to join again =p
[08:12] <linkd> lol
[08:12] <Bollenator> yeah, kinda figgered that one after sending :S
[08:12] <trygve> =)
[08:12] <Daemon> is there a channel for dapper drake edition?
[08:13] <Bollenator> hehe
[08:13] <Gent> I know it has an issue seeing the partitions if case-sensitivity is enabled
[08:13] <trygve> gent, do you know a solution for that?
[08:13] <Gent> no
[08:13] <Gent> I wish I did
[08:13] <trygve> I've got an hfsx (case sensitive hfs+) drive I've been trying to get access to
[08:13] <trygve> ahh, one can hope =)
[08:13] <yh> hmm
[08:14] <Gent> try, does ubuntu ppc come with read/write for hfs+?
[08:14] <yh> Gent: do you have an hfsplus partition you want to test on?
[08:14] <yh> Gent: it looks like if you use "hpmount" you can write to it
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Daemon: not that i know of, i think it's this one
[08:14] <d03boy> if anyone said anything to me, i missed it
[08:14] <Gent> I need it to come up in fstab though
[08:14] <yh> heh
[08:14] <yh> good point
[08:15] <Gent> I'm erasing home as HFS+ again
[08:15] <trygve> what is hpmount, yh?
[08:15] <d03boy> now im running: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[08:15] <Daemon> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20039 <- I get this bug, wondering what to try to fix it
[08:16] <bob_4_a_day> good calender/calculator ?     to calculate dates of cosmic events ???
[08:16] <Hobbsee> Daemon: use the run command (alt+f2) and type the program name
[08:17] <dumbhead> can someone tell me how to upgrade from hoary to breezy using the iso image without burning a CD-rom
[08:17] <Daemon> Hobbsee: that's what I'm using to get around it currently, only bug upgrading so far
[08:17] <trygve> ooh, alt-f2, that's a good one to know, thanks!
[08:17] <bob_4_a_day> anyone know of one ?
[08:17] <Hobbsee> Daemon: nice
[08:17] <Gent> Who would have thunk sharing a partition for /home between the two would be so difficult....
[08:18] <trygve> is there a listing somewhere of other keyboard shortcuts?  I'm a shortcut junkie, always looking for new ones
[08:18] <Daemon> dumbhead: you can mount an iso image directly, not sure of the exact commands
[08:19] <dumbhead> Daemon: i have the iso image mounted
[08:19] <dumbhead> what next
[08:19] <dumbhead> Daemon: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /<filename> /mountpoint is the command in case you need to know
[08:19] <Gent> hrm
[08:19] <Gent> this looks like it's working now
[08:19] <Gent> strange
[08:19] <bob_4_a_day> dumbhead  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:20] <dumbhead> thanks, i am checking that
[08:20] <yh> Gent: what worked?
[08:20] <Gent> hfsplus with read/write
[08:20] <Gent> looks like it's working in ubuntu
[08:20] <yh> ah
[08:20] <Madpilot> trygve: go System menu --> Prefs --> Keyboard Shortcuts (you set them there too)
[08:21] <Gent> must have just been a permission thing before
[08:21] <Gent> ... that sucks
[08:21] <varsendagger> hey i just tried Argonium
[08:21] <varsendagger> it is slow on my machien  - i have crap for a graphics card but i should be able to run a quake2 engine
[08:22] <trygve> gent, you got it working??
[08:22] <Gent> yeah
[08:22] <trygve> that's regular hfsplus, though, not hfsx, right?
[08:22] <nalioth> bob_4_a_day: please be respectful
[08:22] <Gent> does ubuntu make a group per user?
[08:22] <Gent> right, regular hfsplus journaled
[08:22] <trygve> oh, okay
[08:22] <bob_4_a_day> well if i cant make / crash proff one way i'll try another,   i'll set / to mount ro by default.....
[08:22] <nalioth> trygve: what  are we doing with hfs+ ?
[08:23] <Gent> I thought I had set up something on this for right click
[08:23] <Gent> apparently not
[08:23] <trygve> well, I have an hfsx disk (case-sensitive journaled hfsplus) that I'd like to be able to at least get read access to, but I haven't been able to get working
[08:23] <bob_4_a_day> but what will i do with mtab ?????
[08:24] <trygve> gent, as I understand, is trying to share a /home partition with osx (I think?)
[08:24] <Gent> yeah
[08:24] <Pegasos989> My CD/DVD drive won't open. Can I somehow force eject from ubuntu
[08:24] <Gent> and I'm pretty sure I just pulled it off 100%
[08:24] <nalioth> trygve: i dont advise that at all
[08:24] <Hobbsee> Pegasos989: "eject" in a terminal
[08:24] <trygve> well, tell gent, he's the one doing it =)
[08:25] <nalioth> trygve: the hfs+ in modern OSX is very fragile and linux doesnt know how to take care of it properly (short form, you may lose data)
[08:25] <sls> Pega you can use the umount -l to unmount busy devices
[08:25] <nalioth> trygve: sorry, i just got back in the chair
[08:25] <sls> like a Cd/DVD with open files on it
[08:25] <Pegasos989> Hobbsee, Doesn't help. It just prints one new line and waits on it (can't give new commands) and the drive won't open... Do I need to boot?
[08:25] <nalioth> Gent:  the hfs+ in modern OSX is very fragile and linux doesnt know how to take care of it properly (short form, you may lose data)
[08:25] <Gent> yeah, I saw that
[08:25] <makkk> help, my system is borked badly. my gnome session wont start up. it gives an error: "_IceTransTransnoListen: ubable to find transport: tcp"
[08:25] <trygve> I just have an external drive that I cloned off an osx machine which is, sadly, no longer mine.  I cloned the drive so I'd still have my data (and could clone it back to my next mac, when I get one (as soon as those intel macs come out =)
[08:26] <Hobbsee> Pegasos989: hmmm....try umount /dev/hdc then eject
[08:26] <trygve> but I discovered only too late that ubuntu can't read the hfsx partition
[08:26] <Gent> I suppose I'll just have to be a massive test case
[08:26] <Gent> but so far it's working excellent
[08:26] <trygve> so I'm plotting to borrow a friend's ibook so I can swap my data to my ipod, reformat this drive as regular hfsplus, and then swap it back
[08:26] <sls> Pegasos989: try umount -l
[08:26] <nalioth> trygve: it can read it just fine, i use to automount my shared hfs+ partition all the time, til my dumb self finally lost data
[08:27] <Pegasos989> sls, bash: unmount: command not found
[08:27] <Pegasos989> :D
[08:27] <Gent> nalioth, how long ago was that?
[08:27] <Gent> maybe some bugs got worked outs ince
[08:27] <nalioth> Pegasos989: umount
[08:27] <trygve> nalioth: I've mounted and read hfsplus partitions as well, the problem is mine is *hfsx*
[08:27] <Pegasos989> k
[08:27] <nalioth> Gent: about a month and a half ago
[08:27] <Gent> yeah, so maybe some bugs got worked out since ;)
[08:27] <Gent> how much data did you lose?
[08:27] <Pegasos989> Hobbsee, umount: /dev/hdc is not mounted (according to mtab)
[08:27] <nalioth> Gent: 27gb
[08:28] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[08:28] <trygve> the *case-sensitive* version of apple's hfsplus is a different fs type
[08:28] <technomanc1> have to wonder why they left the "n" out of umount
[08:28] <technomanc1> does it really save that many keystrokes?
[08:28] <sls> Pegasos989: sorry umount
[08:28] <Gent> I don't know, this looks like it's working too well to have issues
[08:28] <navarone> nalioth>any back ups?
[08:28] <Gent> I'm not gonna be doing heavy writes or anything
[08:28] <Gent> and actually, I just mv'd the whole user's home dir back to hfs+ in Linux and OS X is reading it fine
[08:28] <sls> Pegasos989: e.g. sudo umount -l /media/cdrom
[08:29] <sls> Pegasos989: or wherever it is mounted
[08:29] <Pegasos989> Hmmh. I put in a CD, it showed it for a while and then suddenly it didn't show me even the whole cd rom drive and the friggin' drive won't open
[08:29] <bob_4_a_day> technomanc1 heh   and now preclude it with 'sudo '   :)  lol
[08:29] <Pegasos989> sls, umount: /media/cdrom: not mounted
[08:30] <trygve> Pegasos989: "sudo eject /dev/cdrom"
[08:30] <sls> Pegasos989: ok, type mount (see what is mounted)
[08:30] <TGM> As stupid as this may sound. How do you install things that didn;t come with the OS? I've gone out and found a few programs here and there for Linux Ubuntu and sometimes Debian since it's debian based but I can't figure out how to install a one of them for the life of me. Help?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> TGM: run synaptic, and pick what you want from there.  make sure you have the extra repos
[08:30] <bob_4_a_day> i hope someone has filed a bug ont the cdrom errors in breezy.     i see that same problem every day here.
[08:31] <Hobbsee> !tell TGM about repos
[08:31] <TGM> I have
[08:31] <sls> TGM: dpkg -i (pakage name)
[08:31] <sls> TGM: then apt-get update
[08:31] <Madpilot> TGM: there's thousands of applications in the repos, available thru Synaptic or Install Applications
[08:32] <Pegasos989> sls, a few hard drives, usb device and some system things I dunno (proc, sysfs, devpts, several tmpfs). No cd drive there :/
[08:32] <TGM> I can;t find any of the install applications, but I've figured out synaptic
[08:32] <bob_4_a_day> !+repos
[08:32] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:32] <trygve> TGM: if, after adding the universe & multiverse repositories, you can't find what you want in synaptic, you can install something by hand with dpkg if you find a .deb installer, and if you can only find a .rpm, you can convert that to a .deb with "alien".  if you can only find a tarball, follow the programs own instructions
[08:32] <Madpilot> TGM: at the bottom of the Applications menu, you'll have Add Applications
[08:32] <sls> Pegasos989: check your IDE cable and that everythin is pluged in well.
[08:32] <trygve> but synaptic is the preferred method and will make your life much easier
[08:32] <Madpilot> TGM: you can't run Synaptic & Add Apps at the same time, though
[08:33] <arnducky> Hmmm, where can I ask questions about configuring Bluetooth in Ubuntu?
[08:33] <Pegasos989> sls, do I need to turn off computer for that?
[08:33] <sls> Pegasos989: also your CD power cable may be loose
[08:33] <sls> Pegasos989: yes you do! please do not touch anythin in the pc when it is pluged in.
[08:34] <trygve> heh
[08:34] <Pegasos989> sls, the scary thing is, that my cd drive gets power, but even the button in it won't eject cd
[08:34] <Pegasos989> k
[08:34] <Pegasos989> So... booting -->
[08:34] <TGM> Madpiolot: I have a Run applications at the bottom of my applications menu, and I'm not entirely sure how to use it
[08:35] <trygve> I was once working inside a powered off (but still plugged in) computer, trying to troubleshoot a boot problem, and realized my hand resting on the bottom of the case had current running through it!
[08:36] <sls> trygve: considder yourself lucky!
[08:36] <dumbhead> bob_4_a_day: thanks
[08:36] <dumbhead> added deb file:/mnt/ubuntu/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[08:37] <trygve> why's that sls?
[08:37] <dumbhead> to my sources.list file and it has started the upgrade
[08:37] <sls> trygve: because there is enough current in a pc to harm you... plus the surge can damage parts in the pc
[08:38] <skple> where is sources.list?
[08:38] <technomanc1> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <sls> nite nite people...
[08:39] <trygve> true.  thankfully what I felt only seemed comparable to a 9v battery (far more pleasant than the time I accidentally took 120V across the chest)
[08:39] <Madpilot> TGM: just start it - w/o Synaptic running - and have a look thru it, the interface is fairly straightforward
[08:39] <sls> time to sleep
[08:39] <trygve> I don't play with electricity anymore
[08:39] <trygve> though, in this case, it did kill the video card
[08:39] <trygve> but the system otherwise seemed to come out okay, iirc
[08:40] <Mabus06> how do I set up dual boot?
[08:40] <harris> you have to partition your hard disk
[08:41] <nalioth> Mabus06: ubotu has msg'd you
[08:41] <Mabus06> when
[08:41] <harris> and then install the new os on the new partition
[08:41] <nalioth> Mabus06: check your PMs
[08:41] <harris> befoe you install the new OS
[08:41] <harris> or have some unallocated space free
[08:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell harris about dualboot
[08:42] <Insane> isn't is suppoed to be !tell harris about dualboot
[08:42] <Insane> !tell harris about dualboot
[08:42] <harris> I didn't ask lol
[08:43] <harris> i was helping out mabus06
[08:43] <Insane> Just saying.....
[08:43] <harris> no worries.
[08:43] <Insane> because someone did itwrongly
[08:43] <harris> that's a good function though still
[08:43] <HappyFool> Insane: you mean you think they did it wrongly ;) ubotu knows its name
[08:43] <Mabus06> so wait
[08:43] <Mabus06> I need to have windows installed first before ubuntu?
[08:44] <HappyFool> Mabus06: that is easiest
[08:44] <MrFarts> where are the openssl and bdb libraries in Ubuntu ?
[08:44] <harris> mabus06 what OS's are you duel booting?
[08:44] <Insane> i ave dual boot, but I also have two hard drives...lol
[08:44] <Mabus06> windows 2000 and breezy
[08:44] <harris> is windows 2000 already installed?
[08:44] <MrFarts> anyone ?
[08:44] <nalioth> Insane: either use !tell NICK about FACTOID or "ubotu, tell NICK about FACTOID"
[08:44] <d03boy> ok, I have the error in teh other terminal but I dont know how to get it in this one :|
[08:44] <HappyFool> MrFarts: libssl-dev, probably
[08:45] <Mabus06> no windows is not installed yet
[08:45] <TGM> Whenever I try to use the Run Application I browse, sellect the file that I want to run and it either takes me to thr archive manager or it says it can;t display the item due to there being to default action for that location D:
[08:45] <HappyFool> MrFarts: i would guess something similar for bdb (berkley database?)
[08:45] <MrFarts> HappyFool, nope
[08:45] <Mabus06> breezy is
[08:45] <HappyFool> MrFarts: use 'apt-cache search <stuff>-dev'
[08:45] <Pegasos989> !mount
[08:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:45] <MrFarts> libssl-dev works
[08:45] <MrFarts> bdb doenst
[08:45] <Mabus06> I have breezy on one partition, and /home is the bulk of my drive, on another partition, harris
[08:46] <MrFarts> HappyFool, thanks
[08:46] <harris> then your going to have to get qptparted and make a nfts partition for win 2000
[08:46] <makkk> is anyone in the mood for helping me configure my sound card? it will be exciting
[08:46] <Mabus06> qptparted?
[08:46] <harris> but you have to boot it off a boot disc
[08:46] <bob_4_a_day> guys ext# and reiser crash if you loose power, if this happens very many times you have a completely broken fs.   i need something that can stand pulling the plug on a running system.   any sujestions ?
[08:47] <harris> there's a linux system restore disc that comes in handy for that.
[08:47] <nalioth> Mabus06: qtparted can resize your ntfs partitions, no reinstalling necessary
[08:47] <glyn> what's the easiest way to get JRE for linux?
[08:47] <d03boy> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/blablabla/kdevelop3bla.deb (--unpack)
[08:47] <bob_4_a_day> !jre
[08:47] <ubotu> bob_4_a_day: Are you on ritalin?
[08:47] <bob_4_a_day> !java
[08:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:48] <HappyFool> !javadeb
[08:48] <ubotu> from memory, javadeb is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[08:48] <HansZwolle> d03boy: apt-get -f install
[08:48] <d03boy> : trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevelopblablabla', which is also in package kdevelop3-doc
[08:48] <d03boy> HansZwolle: thast what this is from
[08:48] <glyn> thanks
[08:48] <MrFarts> HappyFool, this sucks
[08:48] <HansZwolle> damn :/
[08:48] <nalioth> d03boy: why are you direct dpkging that, why not use synaptic or adept?
[08:48] <MrFarts> HappyFool, there is only db2, no  db4 or 3
[08:48] <Mabus06> nalioth, would /home be on a ntfs partition or no?
[08:48] <HappyFool> MrFarts: it looks like berkley db is in libdb4.2
[08:48] <d03boy> nalioth: this is the error from apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[08:48] <makkk> can someone help me with sound on my system?
[08:48] <HappyFool> MrFarts: that's what subversion uses, anyway
[08:48] <MrFarts> HappyFool,  i don't have libdb4.2 in that list ...
[08:48] <nalioth> Mabus06: no you have to have home on something writable by linux, preferably NOT fat32
[08:49] <MrFarts> libdb4.2-ruby1.6 - Interface to Berkeley DB for Ruby 1.6
[08:49] <MrFarts> libdb4.2-ruby1.8 - Interface to Berkeley DB for Ruby 1.8
[08:49] <MrFarts> libdb4.2-tcl - Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries for TCL [module] 
[08:49] <HappyFool> MrFarts: you're running breezy?
[08:49] <HansZwolle> hmm in this case, I always try apt-get remove kdevelop3bla
[08:49] <MrFarts> yeah
[08:49] <HappyFool> nooo
[08:49] <HansZwolle> and then dist-upgrade
[08:49] <Davethewave> anyone know much about ndiswrapper in ubuntu? I sort of ran into a problem
[08:49] <HansZwolle> and then, if possible, install that pkg again
[08:49] <harris> marbus0: grab this, burn it as a bootable disc, boot off the cd and run qtparted and work from there
[08:49] <MrFarts> i don't see libdb4.2 anywhere there
[08:49] <harris> http://www.sysresccd.org
[08:49] <nalioth> MrFarts: please dont paste in here
[08:49] <HappyFool> your search term is incorrect then
[08:49] <MrFarts> nalioth, three lines ?
[08:49] <HappyFool> MrFarts: anyway, there is a libdb4.2-dev
[08:49] <nalioth> harris: the live Ubuntu cd works fine
[08:49] <MrFarts> Happuf, i search for bdb
[08:50] <MrFarts> searched
[08:50] <d03boy> when I try removing kdevelop3 I get dependency errors.............
[08:50] <nalioth> MrFarts: read the /topic please
[08:50] <harris> ya that will work to, but I didn't know if he had the live cd or not
[08:50] <MrFarts> nalioth, it's not down for me
[08:50] <HappyFool> MrFarts: libdb4.2-dev is in main
[08:50] <nalioth> MrFarts: type /topic
[08:50] <harris> this file is smaller then downloading the live cd so i thought i might save him some time this way but your right
[08:50] <glyn> heh I get fast DLs on Ubuntu...64 megs in 2 minutes
[08:51] <MrFarts> nalioth, again, you're going to get anal over 3 lines ?
[08:51] <HappyFool> if you can't find it, your sources.list is incorrect or the repository mirror you're using is broken
[08:51] <MrFarts> nalioth, if you think that it's necessary to go to pastebin for 3 lines, ok
[08:51] <nalioth> MrFarts: there are approximately 600 people in here , do you know what 3 x 600 is?
[08:51] <MrFarts> nalioth, 1x600 is also a big number
[08:52] <MrFarts> not everyone talks at the same time
[08:52] <d03boy> farts, I am in terminal with only 80chars on a line, it takes up lots of space
[08:52] <nalioth> MrFarts: it's channel policy, and pasting into channels is rude
[08:52] <MrFarts> nalioth, i see, but kicking someone after he pastes into the channel is perfectly civil
[08:53] <MrFarts> nalioth, note that i'm using xchat so i don't even *see* the whole topic
[08:53] <nalioth> MrFarts: do not get all worked up about it, some ops BAN
[08:53] <Hobbsee> MrFarts: absolutely, that's also channel policy
[08:53] <MrFarts> Hobbsee, so call it that
[08:53] <d03boy> MrFarts: type /topic
[08:53] <MrFarts> Hobbsee, but it's a bit hypocritical to say that i'm being rude
[08:53] <d03boy> does anyone know how I can see what teh full name of a package is that is installed?
[08:53] <bob_4_a_day> MrFarts you can see the whole topic by pointing at it  or by typing /topic
[08:53] <arnducky> Can somebody help me create a bluetooth pair?  Ubuntu can see my device, and it can see ubuntu but I can't find anywhere in the UI where I can put in a key and/or configure Bluetooth authentication.
[08:54] <nalioth> dooglus: in synaptic
[08:54] <MrFarts> d03boy, i could have been told that *before* i was kicked
[08:54] <nalioth> d03boy: ins synaptic
[08:54] <it> People use 'it' a lot in their speech.
[08:54] <MrFarts> but it's ok, IRC is patholofical
[08:54] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy apt-cache show blah
[08:54] <Madpilot> is there a basic audio editor in the repos? I need to chop the last 60sec off a .ogg file...
[08:54] <cycom> MrFarts: It's the rules of the channel in which you are a guest.  Abide by them, or get your help from somwhere else.
[08:54] <d03boy> thanks bob
[08:54] <zcat[1] > is audacity a 'basic' audio editor?
[08:54] <glyn> I get this when I try to extract a tar tar: ./usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/demo/plugin/applets/Blink/Blink.class: Not found in archive
[08:54] <nemik> has anyone gotten a canon i-series printer to work?
[08:54] <nalioth> Madpilot: audacity
[08:54] <Hobbsee> hehe - i like the bit about having to ask about dapper meaning you shouldnt be using it
[08:54] <_SD_Keo|LAPPY|> bur[n] er, if you're around, thanks for the hint on firestarter =) works freakin' great
[08:55] <zcat[1] > or if you're sure it's exactly 60 seconds sox will do it
[08:55] <bob_4_a_day> it no they dont just ask no if it or no is used more .... :)
[08:55] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : is that command line?
[08:55] <harris> _SD_keo what was the hint?
[08:55] <d03boy> gar! why the hell does apt-get refuse to remove kdevelop? dependency problems?!
[08:55] <zcat[1] > yeah, sox is command line "sox infile outfile trim 60"
[08:55] <bigfoot1> to evolution users: how do i remove all my personal data (contacts, calendar appointments, etc)?
[08:55] <_SD_Keo|LAPPY|> he namedropped firestarter for a firewall/ics, works great
[08:56] <zcat[1] > (from memory.. might be trim 0 60 ..
[08:56] <zcat[1] > )
[08:56] <d03boy> this is gosh damn rediculous
[08:56] <bob_4_a_day> zcat[1]  for sox use 'play'
[08:56] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : that'll do, I need to loose the last 62 seconds exactly
[08:56] <harris> gottcha, cool
[08:56] <it> Anyone want to help me with installing wine?
[08:56] <TGM> Whenever I try to use the Run Application I browse, sellect the file that I want to run and it either takes me to thr archive manager or it says it can;t display the item due to there being to default action for that location so I'm still quite clueless as to how to install things that didn't come in packages in synaptic.
[08:56] <MrFarts> it, what's the problem
[08:56] <glyn> hmm I downloaded the tars from that javadeb link
[08:56] <MrFarts> it, apt-get install wine :)
[08:56] <glyn> and the java chat still won't work
[08:56] <nalioth> glyn: tars?>
[08:56] <it> MrFarts:  I don't know how to install it from Synaptic
[08:56] <it> I tried that, MrFarts
[08:56] <MrFarts> no there >
[08:56] <Hobbsee> glyn: did you install them?  they should have been .deb
[08:56] <nalioth> it: do you have universe adn multiverse repos enabled?
[08:57] <MrFarts> it, if you need to compile: untar; ./configure; make; make install
[08:57] <Madpilot> TGM: are you still running Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary)?
[08:57] <bob_4_a_day> it set your repos.
[08:57] <it> nalioth:  I think so.
[08:57] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[08:57] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:57] <focker> you just need to add the repo to your sources.list
[08:57] <glyn> they were .deb
[08:57] <nalioth> it: wine is in the repos, check your settings
[08:57] <TGM> I beleive so.
[08:57] <glyn> but I get a tar error tar: ./usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/demo/plugin/applets/Blink/Blink.class: Not found in archive
[08:57] <TGM> I know it's hoary
[08:57] <focker> you can just go to winehq and get the repo it lists there
[08:57] <glyn> those are only for breezy?
[08:57] <Madpilot> TGM: OK, sorry. 5.04 doesn't have the Add App that 5.10 - Breezy - does. Just use Synaptic, and upgrade to Breezy soon
[08:58] <harris> anyone use any other distrubtion other then ubuntu?
[08:58] <Madpilot> !tell TGM about breezyupgrade
[08:58] <MrFarts> harris, not any more
[08:58] <harris> lol
[08:58] <it> Well okayer I have the repos in Synaptic and I can get winetools and stuff like libwine and libwine-dev but no wine
[08:58] <MrFarts> harris, what's the question ?
[08:58] <bob_4_a_day> harris yes
[08:58] <MrFarts> harris, everything sucks; ubuntu sucks a little less
[08:58] <glyn> is the javadeb only for breezy?
[08:58] <focker> I used fedora before this
[08:58] <harris> just curious, wonder if anyone could reccomend anything
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !tell it about wine
[08:58] <Hobbsee> it: there's an extra repo to get it from
[08:59] <harris> so far, from the ones i've tried, i think ubuntu is my favorite
[08:59] <focker> me too
[08:59] <d03boy> this is driving me nuts, I have no idea what to do
[08:59] <nalioth> d03boy: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you
[08:59] <harris> but there are so many, i thought I would get some feedback from people
[08:59] <focker> what are you trying to do d03boy?
[08:59] <d03boy> dist-upgrade that continually fails
[08:59] <glyn> what's the easiest way to get JRE for ubuntu hoary?
[09:00] <d03boy> anyone know how to toggle between channels with irssi?
[09:00] <pepsi> alt-n
[09:00] <focker> I would try just formatting the partitions and just installing it clean
[09:00] <linkd> harris: ive tried afew major ones and some not-so-major and ubuntu is my true love <3
[09:00] <pepsi> alt-1, 2, 3
[09:00] <harris> linkd what were the not-so-major ones you tried?
[09:00] <nalioth> d03boy: meta+window number
[09:00] <focker> if you set up your partitions right then you won't even loose your stuff
[09:01] <linkd> d03boy: there are like.. loads of ways. alt+n if alt is enabled as a metakey. otherwise esc+n will work. also /win n will work
[09:01] <nalioth> pepsi: it's not alt in some cases
[09:01] <d03boy> gotcha
[09:01] <harris> i'm looking for a non-mainstream distro to trip-boot with
[09:01] <glyn> what's the easiest way to get JRE for ubuntu hoary?
[09:01] <harris> just to fuck around with
[09:01] <pepsi> nalioth, speaking of alt
[09:01] <linkd> d03boy: and finially.. ctrl+N for "next" and ctrl+P for "previous"
[09:01] <MrFarts> harris, www.distrowatch.com
[09:01] <nalioth> glyn: follow the links
[09:01] <glyn> I did
[09:01] <harris> ya I know about the site, but you don't get user feedback from there
[09:01] <glyn> didn't work
[09:01] <harris> word of mouth style
[09:01] <bob_4_a_day> harris linux is linux the distros seem to be mainly a package management system and some custom configs..... that's about all the diff
[09:01] <MrFarts> harris, just go to the very bottom of the list
[09:01] <MrFarts> harris, you will get the most obscure linux ever
[09:02] <MrFarts> harris, BIG LINUX
[09:02] <glyn> what do I do once I download the .deb?
[09:02] <MrFarts> that's wht you want
[09:02] <pepsi> im using a mac keyboard and my i want to switch the alt and command keys so that alt isnt next to control
[09:02] <glyn> I tried extracting the data.tar.gz  and control.tar.gz
[09:02] <pepsi> i dunno what the hell command is mapped to
[09:02] <Hobbsee> glyn: sudo dpkg -i filename<tab>
[09:02] <glyn> and java doesn't work still
[09:02] <harris> ya I guess bob_4_a_day
[09:02] <pepsi> xkeycaps shows it as like #=# or something
[09:02] <glyn> ah okay
[09:02] <MrFarts> harris, it's in portugese
[09:02] <MrFarts> harris, you can't go wrong
[09:03] <harris> hahahahah i'm checking it out as we speak
[09:03] <pepsi> is there any way to _really_ switch the keys around?
[09:03] <bob_4_a_day> pepsi yep  keytables
[09:03] <pepsi> i got it to work my making a new keymap, but vmware doesnt agree with me when i do that
[09:03] <harris> the logo is fucking funny as helll
[09:03] <pepsi> i think vmware might steal the keyboard at some lower level or something
[09:03] <bob_4_a_day> yeah it may
[09:04] <Hobbsee> harris: language
[09:04] <harris> english
[09:04] <pepsi> i think i just need a better keyboard
[09:04] <Hobbsee> haha not
[09:04] <glyn> when I try to dpkg the .deb for JRE it tells me I have dependency problems
[09:04] <MrFarts> harris, you could always install some weird BSD too
[09:04] <Hobbsee> glyn: post the error to pastebin?
[09:04] <zcat[1] > netbsd!!
[09:04] <focker> even the BSDs use a lot of the same programs
[09:04] <harris> bsd might be a bit over my head at this point in time
[09:05] <focker> FreeBSD uses gnome
[09:05] <MrFarts> harris, it's about as difficult/easy to configure as linux
[09:05] <focker> so I don't think it would be that big of change
[09:05] <harris> i've never used bsd before so i'm speaking out of my ass right now
[09:05] <zcat[1] > i ran fbsd for a year. it's different than linux but not ness. harder.
[09:06] <linkd> i dont like bsd.. i dont know why. dont ask. i get into alot of fights with probsd people so ill shush
[09:06] <pepsi> heh, i got netbsd to install on some ancient hardware that i found in the alley
[09:06] <pepsi> it was awesome
[09:06] <bob_4_a_day> Hobbsee he seems not to take a hint
[09:06] <bam_> i wanna see a fight
[09:06] <Gent> hrm... now I seem to have another issue
[09:06] <bam_> go ahead bash bsd
[09:06] <focker> lol'
[09:06] <crimsun> (straying into -offtopic territory)
[09:06] <glyn> okay hobbsee
[09:06] <zcat[1] > less apps and harware supported.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> bob_4_a_day: clearly
[09:06] <glyn> I pasted it under jacked the ripper, hobbsee
[09:06] <Hobbsee> glyn: got a link to it?
[09:06] <Gent> is anyone else here yet running ubuntu PPC on a mac?
[09:07] <focker> I would like to try that
[09:07] <pepsi> Gent, i just helped my friend install it tonight
[09:07] <MrFarts> linkd, YOU ARE GAY BSD IS THE BEST OVER. LINUX IS NOTHING. BSD FOREVER
[09:07] <glyn> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5069
[09:07] <pepsi> i had to ssh to her like a million times
[09:07] <linkd> MrFarts: mmmk
[09:07] <Gent> pesi, I'm beyond installing it...
[09:07] <focker> haha
[09:07] <pepsi> we were fighting with yaboot
[09:07] <Hobbsee> glyn: cool
[09:07] <nalioth> Gent: lots of us run powerpc ubuntu
[09:07] <crimsun> bsd is clearly offtopic. quit it.
[09:07] <MrFarts> linkd, BSD IS 31337
[09:07] <zcat[1] > screw yahboot, use bootx
[09:07] <ISOcrates> hey guys. .  does anyone know how to configure a gamepad for fceu?
[09:07] <ISOcrates> or nestra?
[09:07] <nalioth> MrFarts: please save that for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <Gent> I've got it installed, got my home directory shared between the two... but if I play an mp3 through the system speakers it's a really low volume
[09:07] <pepsi> doesnt bootx require you have macos installed?
[09:07] <Hobbsee> !javadeb
[09:07] <ubotu> from memory, javadeb is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:07] <Gent> if I plug in headphones it's fine
[09:08] <zcat[1] > yeah, it does
[09:08] <nalioth> pepsi: it does.
[09:08] <bigfoot1> hi guys, i have an old pocket pc. how do i sync it with my breezy pc?
[09:08] <zcat[1] > i have a really tiny macos8 partition
[09:08] <Hobbsee> glyn: you want this one - http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb you got the wrong deb...
[09:08] <Gent> anyone know what could be causing that?
[09:08] <zcat[1] > I think redhat's default /boot partiton is bigger than my os8 :)
[09:09] <Gent> and what's really weird is the gnome sounds, like the little clicks and stuff, play at proper volume
[09:09] <glyn> hobbsee: oh thanks
[09:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Gent about sound
[09:09] <Gent> it just seems to be totem... or maybe gstreamer doing it
[09:09] <nemik> bigfoot1, i tried the same. gave up after a while. it is not easy
[09:09] <pepsi> theres a zillion different volume controls
[09:09] <bigfoot1> nemik! hi
[09:09] <bob_4_a_day> Gent 'sudo alsamixer '  set as you like.
[09:10] <harris> ubotu: tell harris how to woo a fair female
[09:10] <bigfoot1> i'm close to giving up. but I think i'm making bit of progress now and then.
[09:10] <nemik> bigfoot1, from #php on quakenet?
[09:10] <zcat[1] > that reminds me.. I need to write up a bug report, latest kernel broke my friend's four-soundcard config :)
[09:10] <bigfoot1> nemik: no
[09:10] <bigfoot1> nemik: what software do we need to snync?
[09:11] <crimsun> zcat[1] : please do. It works fine here on my 3-card config.
[09:11] <nemik> bigfoot1, np, just asking. i tried for a while but never worked. i tried with evolution and a sync program. hang on, i'll find you the tutorials i saw
[09:11] <MrFarts> zcat[1] , why does he have 4 soundcards ?
[09:11] <bigfoot1> nemik. thans
[09:11] <bigfoot1> thanks
[09:12] <zcat[1] > 'cos he's a nut.
[09:12] <bob_4_a_day> brb
[09:12] <glyn> hobbsee:I get a similar error
[09:12] <Hobbsee> glyn: the error this time, to the pastebin?
[09:12] <glyn> version of libasound2 on system is too old, and libc6 version this old
[09:12] <nemik> bigfoot1: this is what a follwed. didn't work on getting the contacts to my computer or computer calendar entries to my ppc: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936&highlight=ipaq
[09:13] <focker> has anyone gotten a palm to sync with ubuntu
[09:13] <zcat[1] > one for yasr screen reader and regular sound, one recording radio 24/7, one for doing other recording (eg converting talking books) and a USB FM transmitter so he can listen to stuff when he's doing other things..
[09:13] <glyn> hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5071
[09:14] <zcat[1] > it's quite a complex setup.
[09:14] <doojin> hi
[09:14] <doojin> Anyone who played deadhunt?
[09:14] <Hobbsee> glyn: you on hoary or breezy?
[09:14] <glyn> Hobbsee: Hoary
[09:14] <Hobbsee> ah...
[09:14] <nelo> Resume hibernate on a laptop does not work, the system restarts, but instead on going to restart point a flashing cursor comes up and sits there, any ideas if this could be address?
[09:15] <zcat[1] > and the msot recent kernel messed up /dev/mixer2, it all came right when I rolled back to the earlier kernel, so I think there's a bug somewhere
[09:15] <Hobbsee> glyn: try http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:15] <nemik> has anyone gotten a canon printer to work? especially an i-series?
[09:15] <glyn> that's the same one Hobbsee
[09:15] <glyn> err
[09:16] <Hobbsee> glyn: no it isnt, that's the hoary one...
[09:16] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:16] <Madpilot> nemik: have you checked the wiki's printer page?
[09:16] <Madpilot> !printer
[09:16] <ubotu> it has been said that printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:16] <glyn> alright
[09:16] <nalioth> focker: come back and ask me next week, i have a palm on order
[09:16] <penguinzdr> why i can't start the theme module from preferences menu?
[09:16] <nemik> thanks madpilot, i'll check
[09:16] <glyn> what the hell
[09:16] <nemik> !printer
[09:16] <glyn> my download started going at 3300 KB/sec
[09:16] <glyn> lol
[09:16] <toresbe> glyn: internal proxy?
[09:17] <glyn> no heh
[09:17] <mccbaka> is anyone familiar with Evolution? How can I remove the "contacts"/"calendars"/"tasks" bars?
[09:17] <pepsi> firefox seems to start downloading before you pick a location to save the file, but doesnt account for the time you took to choose the location
[09:17] <penguinzdr> why i can't start the theme module from preferences menu?
[09:17] <lundlund> Hello all. I just installed Breezy in the server configuration and I'm having a hard time figuring out the proper way to configure the network with a static IP. I'm fairly new to this distro.
[09:17] <pepsi> so if yo take ages to pick a place to save it, it will start out at  like 150M/sec
[09:18] <penguinzdr> wtf i can't even start theme module from command line!
[09:18] <crimsun> lundlund: you'd set the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:19] <nelo> Hello, Resume hibernate on a laptop does not work, the system restarts, but instead on going to restart point a flashing cursor comes up and sits there, any ideas if this could be address?
[09:19] <crimsun> lundlund: ''man 5 interfaces'' for examples
[09:19] <lundlund> Thanks!
[09:19] <penguinzdr> please help me!
[09:19] <glyn> that one worked, thanks
[09:20] <pepsi> i just recently found out that the setserial package lets me specify an /etc/serial.conf file so that i can pick which /dev/ttySx file is assigned to each port, and how the port gets setup at boot
[09:20] <pepsi> before i had to do setserial 10 times every time i booted
[09:20] <Madpilot> with sox, if I wanted to cut everything after 3min48sec off "16 - Track 16.ogg", what would my command line look like? (the man page is a typical man page, not much good...)
[09:20] <pepsi> but
[09:20] <Rotan> i hate windows
[09:21] <Rotan> i hate using it
[09:21] <Rotan> i REALLY do
[09:21] <pepsi> how does the kernel decide how the port gets setup if you dont explicitly tell it?
[09:21] <mrkoje> Rotan: I hate trying to fix windows
[09:21] <TGM> I didn't mind useing wondows. It just didn't like me.
[09:21] <linkd> i like that.. "trying"
[09:21] <Rotan> i really mind it
[09:21] <pepsi> would it be the job of the pci card driver to decide how to automagically setup the serial port?
[09:21] <TGM> I grew up useing it at home, at school I use Macintosh
[09:21] <zcat[1] > I love windows, it's a constant supply of easy cash jobs removing viruses and spyware..
[09:22] <focker> lol
[09:22] <mrkoje> linkd: thats how it is. I am trying to remote fix a winxp machine right now over vnc...
[09:22] <TGM> and I'm ready for a change so I decided to try this and now it seeming isn;t liking me much either x.X
[09:22] <intelikey> hehhe they didn't have computers when i was in school
[09:22] <mrkoje> zcat[1] : No kidding... im doing that now
[09:22] <Rotan> i'd rather have to panic when i open up my networking configs and delete everything than sit there and... TWEAK things
[09:22] <kapputu> what's the command to invoke the xfce file manager? It's not starting up for some reason
[09:22] <it> I got an error about my C compiler while compiling wine
[09:22] <Rotan> find workarounds...
[09:22] <mrkoje> when I was in school we had the apple II3
[09:22] <mrkoje> IIe
[09:22] <linkd> kapputu: nox
[09:22] <Rotan> basically, use a broken operating system
[09:22] <linkd> er
[09:22] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : you run one of those shops that charges $45 for antivirus/antispyware stuff?
[09:22] <zcat[1] > we had an Apple//
[09:22] <linkd> kapputu: rox rather
[09:22] <Rotan> i LOVE apple IIs
[09:23] <zcat[1] > Sorry, Apple ] [
[09:23] <Rotan> we had this game.. "snake racer" or something...
[09:23] <mrkoje> rotan: I was thinking about picking one of those up on ebay... pretty cheap and get the oregon trail game
[09:23] <mrkoje> lol... memories
[09:23] <it> I got an error about my C compiler while compiling wine
[09:23] <Rotan> :)
[09:23] <Rotan> memories...
[09:23] <linkd> it: might help if u gave abit more detail
[09:23] <focker> oregon trail was a beautiful game
[09:24] <penguinzdr> yes! i only needed to kill gnome-theme-manager.
[09:24] <intelikey> why compile wine ?
[09:24] <Rotan> buy nothin but ammo
[09:24] <it> linkd, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:24] <mrkoje> focker: hell ya it was :)
[09:24] <focker> lol
[09:24] <Rotan> the injuns will help you out
[09:24] <intelikey> install it synaptic
[09:24] <it> intelikey I tried that already. I'm doing it cvs.
[09:24] <focker> haha
[09:24] <zcat[1] > "apt-get install build-essentials"
[09:24] <intelikey> k
[09:24] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:24] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[09:24] <mrkoje> thats what we should do... figure out how to port oregon trail to linux
[09:24] <pepsi> no s on build-essential
[09:24] <it> zcat[1] :  I've done that every day since I installed Ubuntu
[09:24] <focker> yeah I always sucked at the hunting
[09:25] <Rotan> is there real support for my MS 5-button IntelliMouse?
[09:25] <pepsi> i have a side button
[09:25] <focker> that would be awesome
[09:25] <pepsi> what the hell do you do with extra buttons?
[09:25] <mrkoje> I always got the fever, and my wagon always crashed in the river
[09:25] <Rotan> something that has been bothering me... it doesn't seem to know what to do with the side buttons
[09:25] <it> pepsi:  Click them to be annoying.
[09:25] <focker> lol
[09:25] <pepsi> exactly
[09:25] <Rotan> web browsing, forward and back
[09:26] <zcat[1] > Get a 104 button mouse, then you won't need to switch between mouse and keyboard at all..
[09:26] <Rotan> in gaming... you'd besurprised what you want bound to your mouse that you usually can't fit
[09:26] <Rotan> like voice com
[09:26] <Madpilot> Rotan: I think you can get it working - search the wiki
[09:26] <nelo> Hello, Resume hibernate on a laptop does not work, the system restarts, but instead on going to restart point a flashing cursor comes up and sits there, any ideas if this could be address?
[09:26] <Rotan> click-n-talk
[09:26] <pepsi> games are bad for you
[09:26] <Pegasos989> !mount
[09:26] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:26] <Rotan> coke is better
[09:26] <pepsi> isnt that obvious?
[09:27] <Hentai^XP> pepsi is crap
[09:27] <mrkoje> coke is my blood
[09:27] <Hentai^XP> coke is crap, drpepper is crap
[09:27] <TGM> I like Pepsi
[09:27] <pepsi> cartoon porn on windows is crap
[09:27] <TGM> they make Mt, Dew
[09:27] <TGM> and Mt. Dew is god.
[09:27] <Hentai^XP> indeed
[09:27] <mrkoje> cartoon porn
[09:27] <mrkoje> haha
[09:28] <Hentai^XP> or root beer
[09:28] <focker> I like diet mt dew
[09:28] <TGM> as do I
[09:28] <it> Sooooo about this whole wine thing
[09:28] <TGM> all the caffeine without the callories :D
[09:28] <TGM> Wine hates me too
[09:28] <it> why doesn't it recognize my C compiler?
[09:28] <TGM> that or it's my disk drive
[09:28] <it> Do I have to get gcc?
[09:28] <intelikey> offtopic
[09:28] <bigfoot1> nemik: is there no official tutorial from the sync-software makers themselves?
[09:29] <focker> you need to install the build-necesstial package
[09:29] <intelikey> it build-essential
[09:29] <TGM> My mom is gonanlend me another disk drive just to test it out
[09:29] <it> I have done build-essential
[09:29] <TGM> because It only read my CD's on rare occasions
[09:29] <nelo> it what is build-essential?
[09:29] <pepsi> it, you have to be more specific than "it doesnt recognize" your compiler
[09:29] <it> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:29] <it> that's what it said.
[09:30] <focker> it has gcc and some other stuff you need to compile
[09:30] <focker> c and C+=
[09:30] <focker> c++
[09:30] <it> I have all the build-essential stuff and then some.
[09:30] <focker> if you want to build anything from source you need it
[09:30] <Rotan> question here... who here knows the difference between "linux" and "gnu/linux"... and of those people, who backs the fsf, who backs the osi, and who just doesn't care?
[09:30] <it> Didn't you just hear me?
[09:30] <it> I have dont build-essential
[09:30] <it> and then some
[09:30] <pepsi> Rotan, who cares?
[09:30] <Rotan> i do
[09:30] <pepsi> ok
[09:31] <zcat[1] > I think I have a C# compiler too now.. snd123 wanted a whole lot of mono stuff to work..
[09:31] <pepsi> well i dont
[09:31] <Rotan> that's why i'm asking
[09:31] <focker> C# yuck
[09:31] <Rotan> did you miss the "who just doesn't care" part?
[09:31] <pepsi> Rotan, no, thats why i responded the way i did
[09:31] <Rotan> oh
[09:31] <Rotan> ...
[09:31] <Rotan> ok
[09:31] <mrkoje> gnu/linux linux fsf... whatever
[09:31] <Rotan> ...
[09:31] <intelikey> !enter
[09:31] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:31] <nalioth> it: it's a bug in GCC
[09:32] <Hentai^XP> Rotan neutral
[09:32] <Rotan> sorry, ubotu
[09:32] <crimsun> Rotan: quickly, GNU/Linux proponents advocate the FSF; Linux proponents don't care. However, it's not always so clear-cut...
[09:32] <mrkoje> haha as long as sco doesnt get the source for the linux 2.7 kernal lol
[09:32] <it> focker:  This is what it says when I build-essential: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:32] <zcat[1] > I stumbled into Jon Lech Jonsen's blog [so sue me]  while I was looking for libdvdcss .. and ended up playing with some other stuff he's written..
[09:32] <stu669> morning
[09:33] <Rotan> i know the difference, i wanted to narrow the field of respondents to the second question by presenting the first
[09:33] <focker> what is the message you get when trying to compile?
[09:33] <lundlund> Anyone have any idea what mon cherie means in French?
[09:33] <Rotan> what else has he written, zcat[1]  ?
[09:33] <it> focker:  checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:33] <zcat[1] > I really want to see him sue Sony for copyright infringement too, that would be so funny
[09:33] <linkd> lundlund: my friend. or something similar
[09:33] <zcat[1] > snd123 -- sound player in C#
[09:33] <linkd> lundlund: like my love or something
[09:34] <intelikey> lundlund my cabage
[09:34] <focker> go into synaptic and search for build-essential
[09:34] <it> intelikey:  I should chou was cabbage.
[09:34] <focker> you are missing some dev packages
[09:34] <lundlund> Girl just said it to me in an SMS
[09:34] <focker> like kernel headers
[09:34] <lundlund> I'm going to take it as a good sign
[09:34] <it> lundlund:  I think it's friend.
[09:34] <linkd> heh
[09:34] <it> lundlund:  why don't you check http://babelfish.altavista.com ?
[09:35] <intelikey> lundlund yeah i don't like cabage but the french seem too
[09:35] <focker> it make sure you have the kernel headers installed
[09:35] <it> focker:  How do I check if they are?
[09:35] <focker> search for kernel header in synaptic
[09:35] <focker> and search for build-esstenial
[09:36] <focker> I am sure you are missing it
[09:36] <it> linux-kernel-headers is installed
[09:36] <focker> I got that exact error before I installed it
[09:36] <it> focker:  What else do I need to be installed?
[09:36] <miki> hello people
[09:36] <HappyFool> the package should be linux-headers-386 (or -686, or whatever)
[09:36] <intelikey> it build-essential
[09:37] <lundlund> "My Darling" according to Google and some web pages
[09:37] <miki> guys,how can install the Opera browser on my Ubuntu OS?
[09:37] <focker> it: make sure you have lib6-dev
[09:37] <HappyFool> !tell miki about opera
[09:37] <focker> it I mean libc6-dev
[09:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell miki about opera
[09:37] <miki> yes,please...
[09:37] <pepsi> ubotu is shy
[09:37] <ubotu> pepsi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:37] <HappyFool> heh. check your private messages ;)
[09:38] <miki> hehe
[09:38] <nalioth> miki: look at your private messages
[09:38] <miki> comeon now,i dont eat anybody...
[09:38] <pepsi> ?!
[09:38] <focker> it: if that doesn't work try dpkg-dev
[09:38] <HappyFool> build-essential should give you libc6-dev
[09:38] <linkd> mrkoje: nonono. dont do that
[09:38] <it> Same error.
[09:38] <focker> yeah it should
[09:38] <linkd> mrkoje: just install linux on it
[09:39] <focker> shoot
[09:39] <mrkoje> lol
[09:39] <ubuntu> hi
[09:39] <Madpilot> miki: you should have had at least one msg from the bot w/ Opera information
[09:40] <miki> guys, its my fist time here
[09:40] <miki> and im dumb,as u can see
[09:40] <ubuntu> i wanna knoe if i install linux on a seaperate hard disk will it interfere with my Xp
[09:40] <miki> where can i see the private messages?
[09:40] <Madpilot> !opera
[09:40] <focker> ubuntu: no it won't
[09:40] <linkd> ubuntu: it will not
[09:40] <ubuntu> ok
[09:40] <ubuntu> thankyou
[09:40] <Madpilot> miki: if you're using xchat, there should be new buttons sprouting across the top of the screen somewhere
[09:41] <Madpilot> miki: failing that, just go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[09:41] <it> Damnit! I have to go into safe mode to get on MSN. Lame!
[09:41] <zcat[1] > or along the bottom?
[09:41] <it> I need webcam capabilities.
[09:41] <miki> ok, i got it
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> oh no, firefox wont start--  it doesn't even give an error when run from terminal.  What do I do?
[09:42] <it> the MSN servers just went down.
[09:42] <d03boy> I would get rid of windows completely if I could get my webcam to work in linux
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> what kind do you have?
[09:43] <it> d03boy:  I would too..and if I could get WC3.
[09:43] <d03boy> i forget, some really cheap one from best buy
[09:43] <mrkoje> tiglionabbit: I just had a similiar problem with firefox in windows
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> it: get w3c?
[09:43] <it> tiglionabbit:  to work on linux.
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> what do you mean?
[09:43] <it> WarCraft 3.
[09:43] <Hobbsee> it: msn servers seem semi-working here
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> w3c is world wide web consortium
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> oh =P
[09:44] <it> Hobbsee: maybe I should try..you know..reconnecting again
[09:44] <zcat[1] > i guess that doesn't help thought :)
[09:44] <Hobbsee> it: might be an idea, i just did
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> darn it what do I do about firefox?
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> I tried purging it and reinstalling it
[09:45] <focker> what is wrong with firefox?
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> it will not start
[09:45] <zcat[1] > w3c is a very simple browser..
[09:45] <zcat[1] > and the web consortium.
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> it gives no error message when run from terminal even
[09:45] <intelikey> focker it's ugly ?
[09:45] <focker> lol
[09:45] <focker> crap
[09:46] <TGM> I love Firefox. Best Web Browser I have yet to try
[09:46] <it> TGM, tru dat.
[09:46] <zcat[1] > rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox  perhaps?
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> hmm, but purge should have gotten rid of that, right?
[09:46] <intelikey> yeah
[09:46] <focker> should have but you should look
[09:46] <zcat[1] > should have.. perhaps..
[09:47] <focker> try whereis firefox
[09:47] <focker> and delete anything it returns
[09:47] <focker> then install it again
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> um but I already did a purge, focker
[09:47] <zcat[1] > find / -name *firefox* -exec rm {} \;
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> grah
[09:47] <zcat[1] > perhaps not :)
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> wtf
[09:48] <focker> just install a different browser then
[09:48] <tiglionabbit> but I like firefox
[09:48] <darksoul> why was WinEnforcer banned
[09:48] <intelikey> whereis wont find configs
[09:48] <it> I don't get it! my MSN won't connect.
[09:48] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: rename your ~/.mozilla-firefox or ~/.firefox
[09:48] <zcat[1] > I'd check there's no .mozilla/firefox directory befor anything else..
[09:48] <Madpilot> the latest release of Opera - 8.51 - works great on Breezy :)
[09:48] <focker> that's true
[09:49] <zcat[1] > .firefox, or whatever.. not sure where it goes
[09:49] <intelikey> ls -A
[09:49] <focker> tig: does any other app not work
[09:49] <D-> hello
[09:49] <tiglionabbit> focker: no..   what should I try?
[09:49] <tiglionabbit> yelp works
[09:50] <D-> whats ups with the new update that says no sources were changed just some auto backport ?
[09:50] <zcat[1] > "lynx" is nice.. very fast.
[09:50] <yaoming> hi all!
[09:50] <TGM> blarg, these upgrades are slow x.X
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> zcat[1] : I need javascript
[09:50] <intelikey> elinks
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> and images
[09:50] <zcat[1] > does elinks do javascript?
[09:50] <intelikey> yes
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> =\
[09:50] <zcat[1] > cool!
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> you serious?
[09:51] <intelikey> yes
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> grah, I don't get this, why can't I start firefox?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > that it does javascript, probably.. that you should use it.. probably not.
[09:51] <focker> tig: it doesn't give you any errors?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > open a terminal and try starting it there. it might give an error.
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> nope, no errors in the terminal
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> I said that long ago
[09:52] <intelikey> apt-cache show elinks
[09:52] <nalioth> zcat[1] : idk about elinks, but links2 does javascript and graphics
[09:52] <zcat[1] > oh, sorry.. didn't read that
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> nick@kamek:~$ firefox
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> nick@kamek:~$
[09:52] <yaoming> i added this line to my menu.lst:splashimage=(hd0,10)/boot/grub/ubuntu.xpm.gz
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> hey
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> if I run it as root it runs
[09:53] <intelikey> tiglionabbit 'which firefox '
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> wtf, why
[09:53] <yaoming> but when i boot my pc all i see is a black screen with a blinking caret
[09:53] <zcat[1] > did you try 'rm -rf .mozilla/firefox/' ?
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> yes!
[09:53] <zcat[1] > hmm.. ok
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> I already said that, zcat[1] 
[09:53] <focker> tig: does it have the correct permissions set?
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> uh...
[09:53] <yaoming> who can tell whats wrong with my menu.lst?
[09:53] <yaoming> i added this line to my menu.lst:splashimage=(hd0,10)/boot/grub/ubuntu.xpm.gz
[09:53] <yaoming> but when i boot my pc all i see is a black screen with a blinking caret
[09:53] <yaoming> who can tell whats wrong with my menu.lst?
[09:54] <tiglionabbit> hmm, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2005-11-26 00:41 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:54] <intelikey> tiglionabbit 'ls -l `which firefox` '
[09:54] <nalioth> yaoming: please dont repeat so often
[09:54] <yaoming> sorry
[09:54] <tiglionabbit> I guess i should chmod it.  But how'd it get that way?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2005-11-23 12:22 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:54] <focker> that's really strange
[09:55] <zcat[1] > That's normal..
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> it is?
[09:55] <focker> really
[09:55] <focker> ?
[09:55] <HappyFool> symbolic links take on the permissions of their target
[09:55] <intelikey> now ls -l /lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:55] <Daemon> yaoming: is the splash made correctly?
[09:55] <intelikey> no
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> intelikey: hm why?
[09:55] <Daemon> and I take it if you remove the splace entry it works?
[09:56] <zcat[1] > -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 11170 2005-10-11 04:31 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:56] <intelikey> to see the real permissions of the executable
[09:56] <yaoming> yes
[09:56] <zcat[1] > (mine works.. if yours is the same it might work too :-)
[09:56] <lundlund> when I do sudo apt-get upgrade it tell me that linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 have been held back. Why is this?
[09:56] <kapputu> why doesn't mplayer play files over smb?? Do I need to install anything to play .wmv files?
[09:56] <D-> can any one explain me this new update which says no sources were changed ?
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 11170 2005-10-10 08:31 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:56] <intelikey> it is not a permission error
[09:56] <intelikey> that is world exec
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> what are you talking about?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> and how come I can run it as root but not as me?
[09:57] <intelikey> lock file probably
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> what?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> please explain
[09:57] <zcat[1] > hmm .. lock file should have been in .mozilla/firefox/ which has been rm'd twice already
[09:58] <tiglionabbit> yup
 and how come I can run it as root but not as me?   <intelikey> lock file probably   <---- maybe in /var/run   if not in your home.....   but the permissions are not the reason
[09:58] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: use sudo -i
[09:58] <zcat[1] > also lockfile would pop up a dialog saying it's already in use
[09:59] <yaoming> Daemon:if i insert a # before the line (splashimage=(hd0.10)~~~),it normally works.
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: it's not good practice to run firefox as root though-- it even warns me against it
[10:00] <tiglionabbit> any ideas?
[10:00] <intelikey> yaoming then there is something wrong with that line.   fix that line and you have fixed grub
[10:00] <tiglionabbit> drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 4096 2005-11-26 00:50 /tmp/
[10:00] <yaoming> Daemon:my /boot partition was mounted on hda11
[10:01] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: if you've renamed your ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla-firefox
[10:01] <bigfoot1> i deleted/uninstalled the evolution2 packages (because I wanted to get rid of all my personal data), but when I reinstalled the evolution 2 packages, my data are still there. help
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: hm?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > nalioth, It's .mozilla/firefox -- I already asked twice :)
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> I haven't renamed anything.  I've deleted it many times
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> trying to fix this
[10:01] <focker> bigfoot: rm .evoltution
[10:02] <intelikey> yaoming 'sudo fdisk -l '  should list all partitions   and 'mount '  should give all mount information.
[10:02] <bigfoot1> where's the mailing list for ubuntu users? I want to send them an email for help
[10:02] <yaoming> intelikey:thanks ,i try this
[10:03] <nalioth> bigfoot1: lists.ubuntu.com, iirc
[10:03] <focker> hey bigfoot1: rm -rf ~.evolution
[10:03] <bigfoot1> focker, that will remove my personal data (contacts, calendar appointments, etc) too, yes?
[10:03] <intelikey> .evolution   or   .evolution*    :)
[10:04] <yaoming> intelikey:by the way ,how to open DMA?
[10:04] <nalioth> bigfoot1: it will, yes.
[10:04] <focker> it should
[10:04] <focker> that's where it all should be
[10:04] <bigfoot1> intelikey: what do you mean by your last comment?
[10:04] <Rotan> omg
[10:04] <Rotan> i just found the ubuntu artwork fiasco
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> okay that's weird, it works now.  This is what I did, but it makes no sense to me either-   sudo -i; firefox; (it says
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> (firefox-bin:9576): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[10:05] <intelikey> bigfoot1 that it may be  .evolution2 or something   i don't know....  like  .xchat  changed to .xchat2
[10:05] <bigfoot1> focker: what i really want to do is just start off with a clean slate with evolution2 (none of my personal data from a previous sync). Is there a more efficient way to clear evo2 of my data?
[10:05] <Rotan> :)
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> then I kill firefox, then get out of sudo -i, and run it again and it works as me..
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> random fiddling =\
[10:06] <intelikey> bigfoot1 when rm'ing config dirs  ending with * is not bad practice
[10:06] <focker> tig: wow that's strange
[10:06] <tiglionabbit> but I guess nalioth was correct.  Running it under sudo -i fixed it
[10:06] <zcat[1] > tiglionabbit, something else occured to me (although you've already fixed it) -- killall firefox-bin  might have fixed it.. old firefox that hasn't quite quit, but the new firefox process still sees it running?
[10:06] <bigfoot1> focker, nalioth: i'm on evo2, so should the command still be "rm -rf ~.evolution" or should it be something like "rm -rf ~.evolution2"?
[10:07] <Rotan> anyone know if the nude artwork is still available?
[10:07] <focker> bigfoot1: maybe evolution2
[10:07] <Rotan> :)
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> zcat[1] : I'd done that--   I did ps aux | grep firefox and killed the process it returned
[10:07] <intelikey> bigfoot1 just add a *  and it will cover either
[10:07] <zcat[1] > ahhh, ok..
[10:07] <Rotan> and is this fiasco why i have seen so much nude+ubuntu themed wallpapers?
[10:07] <focker> bigfoot1: you can check by ls -a ~
[10:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bigfoot1 about cli
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> Rotan: it's uh, humanity
[10:08] <nalioth> bigfoot1: in your terminal, type "ls -al "
[10:08] <Rotan> ?
[10:08] <intelikey> just add *
[10:08] <intelikey>    just add *
[10:08] <Rotan> whaddo you mean, tiglionabbit?
[10:08] <intelikey>  lalla  la la la
[10:09] <intelikey>               just add *
[10:09] <zcat[1] > humanity == almost-nude people
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> lol
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> ya
[10:09] <nalioth> somebody hit intelikey's reset button
[10:09] <viviersf> tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile <---- wtf is that ?
[10:09] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i did "ls -al" i found 2 relevant things: .evolution and evolution2. which?
[10:09] <nalioth> bigfoot1: rename both of them
[10:09] <frank23> Rotan: look for ubuntu-calendar-* packages
[10:09] <bigfoot1> nalioth:  i don't want to rename. I want to remove.
[10:10] <frank23> Rotan: look for november is my favorite
[10:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: do as you wish
[10:10] <bigfoot1> nalioth: i want to, but i don't know how to go about doing so.
[10:10] <ubuntu> hola
[10:10] <Rotan> :)
[10:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: read the cli blurb ubotu sent you
[10:11] <nalioth> bigfoot1: it is very interesting reading
[10:11] <zcat[1] > zcat@xena:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-calendar
[10:11] <bigfoot1> intelikey: i'm hearing you. i did rm -rf ~.evolution*". what is that supposed to do? I want to remove my evo2 data, not rename them.
[10:12] <bigfoot1> nalioth: i just read the cli blurb you told uboto to send me.
[10:12] <nalioth> bigfoot1: that command you keep printing will do nothing but bad things
[10:12] <nalioth> bigfoot1: rm ~/.evo*
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: that should be ~/.evolution/*
[10:12] <bigfoot1> what bad things, nalioth?
[10:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: command syntax is very important. esp when using destructive commands
[10:13] <cubex> hello everyone
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> =P isn't it a little silly to use the -r option and a wildcard in the same expression?
[10:13] <bigfoot1> do i do "rm ~/.evo*" (as nalioth says) OR "rm ~/.evolution/*" (as tiglionabbit says)?
[10:13] <yintelike> nalioth you wont beleave this.   you said somebody hit me reset button  so i did.
[10:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: do both.
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: it doesn't matter, they'll both do the same thing as long as you use the -r option
[10:14] <bigfoot1> nalioth: ok.
[10:14] <cubex> does anybody know which package owns the file /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/volatile/nvidia.ko ?
[10:14] <bigfoot1> thank you for your patienc.
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> just do "rm -r ~/.evolution
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> "
[10:14] <cubex> i tried dpkg -S nvidia.ko, but it didn't find anything
[10:14] <cubex> how can i figure this out?
[10:14] <sklav> Hi guys
[10:14] <sklav> w
[10:14] <zcat[1] > cubex, restricted-modules
[10:14] <meme_> hello
[10:14] <nalioth> cubex: install apt-file, run "sudo apt-file update" and then use apt-file to search
[10:15] <sklav> anybody familiar with spamassassin and bayesian training?
[10:15] <yintelike> wont apt-cache search find it too
[10:15] <cubex> nalioth, zcat[1]  thanks a lot guys, i'll try it :)
[10:15] <meme_> i need help on creating GDM Themes
[10:15] <bigfoot1> i did "rm ~/.evo*" but i still have a folder called evolution2, which has some files and subfolders.
[10:15] <cubex> yintelike nope, it searches for packages
[10:15] <sklav> im curious as to when you train it certain email do you still have to keep them or can they be deleted?
[10:15] <cubex> anyway, thanks again
[10:16] <meme_> does anyone know where "greeter.dtd" is located  ?
[10:16] <meme_> anyone
[10:17] <meme_> plz
[10:17] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ 'find /usr -name greeter.dtd '
[10:17] <meme_> k wait...
[10:18] <sklav> so is anybody any good at spamassassin?
[10:18] <meme_> no luck
[10:18] <meme_> no results bob
[10:18] <meme_> :(
[10:18] <darksoul> anyone use gentoo here
[10:18] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ 'find /etc -name greeter.dtd '    sorry maybe in
[10:19] <meme_> sure
[10:19] <sklav> try the following
[10:19] <NoUse> darksoul I used to, but you might find some more proficient gentoo users in #gentoo
[10:19] <sklav> find /* -name greeter.dtd
[10:19] <meme_> nope again
[10:20] <meme_> wud that srch my entire disk sklav?
[10:20] <sklav> meme_, is it even installed?
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> that will dump lots of error crap to the screen sklav
[10:20] <sklav> yes meme
[10:20] <sklav> yes for dev
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> yes with many errors
[10:20] <meme_> well...i hv gdm
[10:20] <sklav> yes and no
[10:20] <darksoul> NoUSe: meh.. im prob going to stick with ubuntu? why... here.. ill put it in the clear... 11 hours later 10$ less. not installed. 2 reinstalls. grub = a little son of a......
[10:20] <TigerAC3> I just put a nic in my box, and it is listed using lspci.  How do I set it up? Right now my internet connection is though my usb cable modem.
[10:20] <david__> hello, i have a problem with the new kernel in ubuntu: the cpu consumption is always at 100%
[10:20] <meme_> i am tryin to make my own gdm theme
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> and it may error out rather than going on.....
[10:21] <bob_4_a_day> did you check /etc like i said ?
[10:21] <meme_> all i want is to 'get the output of "fortune" displayed as Welcome text' in the greeter
[10:21] <meme_> yes bob
[10:21] <meme_> no results
[10:22] <eugi> hi everybody
[10:22] <soci0path> how do I get a list of frequently used programs to show up in the menu?
[10:22] <sklav> so nobody using bayesian filter with spamassassin?
[10:22] <bob_4_a_day> one other place i'd look is /lib  but that may error also
[10:22] <eugi> can anyone help me to configure an Epson Printer?
[10:22] <eugi> on Ubuntu
[10:23] <meme_> i'll try that bob...
[10:23] <sklav> try this meme_  'sudo find / -name greeter.dtd'
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> cups ?
[10:23] <sklav> that should eliminate error on screen
[10:23] <arnducky> Is anyone else having nasty problems with making KDE Bluetooth softeare create a pair?   Both devices can see each other but Ubuntu ignores pairing (connection) attempts.
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> sklav nope.
[10:23] <sklav> it works for me
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> try it and see.
[10:23] <sklav> i just did
[10:23] <meme_> trying
[10:24] <bob_4_a_day> then they have drastically changed find .
[10:24] <eugi> can anyone help me to configure an Epson Printe
[10:24] <sklav> if the sudo part fails
[10:24] <sklav> su - root
[10:24] <david__> hello, i have a problem with the new kernel in ubuntu: the cpu consumption is always at 100%
[10:24] <sklav> and then try the search
[10:24] <sklav> david__, which kernel?
[10:24] <bob_4_a_day> all older 'find' commands ran on / would error on everything you didn't have perms for.
[10:24] <sklav> and if you return to the previous does the same issue happen?
[10:25] <sklav> i know\
[10:25] <david__> the last digit is .10
[10:25] <sklav> that is why i asked him to su or sudo
[10:25] <david__> and .9 works perfectly
[10:25] <bob_4_a_day> su - root      :)
[10:25] <bob_4_a_day> not on a default ubuntu you wont
[10:25] <sklav> i know
[10:25] <sklav> ;)
[10:25] <nalioth> sklav: we dont use su here, sudo -i works well
[10:25] <sklav> that is why i mentionned sudo
[10:25] <sklav> old habit
[10:26] <sklav> su - root has been my friend
[10:26] <meme_> guys...' sudo find / -name greeter.dtd'  also returned no results :(
[10:26] <bob_4_a_day> !root
[10:26] <ubotu> hmm... root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:26] <meme_> wat do i do
[10:26] <sklav> i know
[10:26] <sklav> i found out the hard way about root account
[10:26] <sklav> and first account created is an admin account
[10:26] <d03boy> no password? doesnt that mean anyone could easily become root?
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> d03boy: no
[10:27] <sklav> on linux no password mean no login most of the time
[10:27] <meme_> bob
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> it means nobody can become root unless they are on the sudoers list
[10:27] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ if you have used 'find / -name blah ' and it returned without any output then blah is not on your computer, or find is not fixed it is broken.
[10:27] <d03boy> ok
[10:27] <meme_> k
[10:28] <meme_> or can it be that greeter.dtd is inside some archive ?
[10:28] <sklav> so spamassassin gurus on tonight?
[10:28] <eugi> can anyone help me to configure an Epson Printer??PLEASE
[10:28] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ you can try 'sudo find / -name *blah* '   and if it is a broken find that should work anyway.
[10:29] <meme_> have u ever tried to make a gdm theme bobo?
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> bobo?
[10:29] <meme_> sorie bob
[10:29] <Pegasos989> !mount
[10:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:29] <sklav> !spamassassin
[10:29] <ubotu> sklav: I give up, what is it?
[10:29] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ the asterisks are supposed to be there in the command i gave.   and no i dont play with gui much
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> add partitions to your filesystem?  That sounds very misleading
[10:30] <bob_4_a_day> why ?
[10:30] <meme_> ohhh
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> how about make partitions accessible?
[10:30] <TigerAC3> I just put a nic in my box, and it is listed using lspci.  How do I set it up? Right now my internet connection is though my usb cable modem.
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> if I read that and didn't know what mount did, I'd think it was a partitioning program
[10:30] <bob_4_a_day> mounting other partitons on the filesystem you have is what is actually happening.
[10:31] <sklav> tiglionabbit, look in /etc/network/interface
[10:31] <bigfoot1> regarding sending email to the ubuntu email list: is there a way to spam-proof your email address? I understand that they post/archive the emails onto ubuntu.org
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> sklav: me what?
[10:31] <sklav> your asking about your NIC card
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> I didn't ask anything
[10:31] <meme_> will the ** make it search inside archives ?
[10:31] <sklav> my mistake
[10:31] <sklav> im half asleep
[10:32] <sklav> im looking for spamassassin info
[10:32] <bob_4_a_day> no it will expand the search to include anything that contains that string.
[10:32] <sklav> and im getting frustrated
[10:32] <meme_> k
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> well gnite
[10:32] <nalioth_zZz> sklav: uncle google will help you when these lazy folks will not
[10:32] <meme_> sklav i wish i cud help but i am a n00b
[10:32] <sklav> nalioth_zZz, ive been googling for a week
[10:32] <sklav> the answer are contradicting
[10:33] <nalioth_zZz> sklav: then you should probably be teaching us
[10:33] <Toma-> sklav: what is ure problem?
[10:33] <sklav> after training bayes
[10:33] <sklav> can emails be deleted
[10:33] <totti> what is your name
[10:33] <Toma-> what?
[10:33] <bob_4_a_day> search for  firefox on ~  might return nothing but searching for  *firefox* would find .mozilla-firefox   as well as anything else with 'firefox' in the name
[10:33] <sklav> some posts say no and others say yes because older email that are trained will start creating false positives on odler date stamps
[10:33] <sklav> and so on
[10:34] <bob_4_a_day> meme_  ^
[10:34] <meme_> yes
[10:34] <Toma-> sklav: have you asked in other channels?
[10:34] <meme_> bob
[10:34] <bob_4_a_day> search for  firefox on ~  might return nothing but searching for  *firefox* would find .mozilla-firefox   as well as anything else with 'firefox' in the name
[10:34] <sklav> yes on spamassassin
[10:34] <sklav> but im waiting
[10:34] <sklav> now
[10:34] <meme_> ya got that
[10:34] <bob_4_a_day> k
[10:34] <Toma-> sklav: try on #linux, slackware and fedora. lots of guru's in those channels
[10:35] <kestas> is there any way to get a google toolbar for gnome?
[10:35] <bob_4_a_day> just trying to put the tools in your hands so you can build what you want......
[10:35] <sklav> i will leave it for tommorow i guess
[10:35] <sklav> its 4:35am here
[10:36] <sklav> and in 2 hours i will be officially up 24 hrs straight
[10:36] <sklav> hehe
[10:36] <booom> hi all
[10:36] <Toma-> good work!
[10:36] <linkd> hi booom
[10:36] <Toma-> :)
[10:36] <bob_4_a_day> new englanders .....
[10:36] <booom> need help for network
[10:37] <bob_4_a_day> sure i need some help for network booom
[10:37] <booom> i have D-Link 504T
[10:37] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[10:37] <omeg> Hi everybody. How would I take a screenshot of something that I'm doing? (Not a screenshot of the desktop, but one of a context menu somewhere.)
[10:37] <Toma-> booom: whats the problem?
[10:38] <booom> i dont have exit to net
[10:38] <sexcopter8000m> omeg, if you press alt and the print screen key, it'll take a screenshot of the window in focus
[10:38] <Toma-> booom: you cant connect to the net?
[10:39] <booom> yes
[10:39] <Toma-> whats the error?
[10:39] <booom> sorry my english is bad
[10:39] <booom> :(
[10:39] <omeg> aha. I tried print screen, but it wouldn't work somehow.
[10:39] <linkd> ah.. D-Links.. i have one of those. they keep overwriting resolv.conf. means it acts like u cant connection.. cuz u cant resolve
[10:39] <booom> no any connection
[10:39] <linkd> *connect
[10:39] <cubex> hello
[10:40] <linkd> unfortunately i dont know the solution either. i dont use D-Link products anymore.
[10:40] <bob_4_a_day> and if you press alt+printscreen+B it will reboot your box   :)
[10:40] <omeg> Doesn't seem to work
[10:40] <cubex> zcat[1]  turns out that linux-restricted-modules doesn't contain nvidia.ko
[10:40] <omeg> I can't paste anything in GIMP.
[10:40] <cubex> zcat[1]  is there any other way to search?
[10:40] <omeg> So it either did not take the screenshot or GIMP is faulty
[10:41] <sexcopter8000m> omeg, for me in ubuntu, when i press the print screen key it brings up a window with options to save the image etc...
[10:41] <linkd> GIMP can "accquire" screenies itself omeg
[10:41] <bob_4_a_day> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:41] <Toma-> cubex: apt-file search nvidia.ko
[10:41] <linkd> File > accquire
[10:41] <cubex> Toma- where is apt-file? universe?
[10:41] <omeg> sexcopter8000m: that does work, but not when I've just clicked a drop-down menu.
[10:41] <Madpilot> omeg: there's a gnome screenshot util that's always running - it doesn't pop up when you hit the Print Screen button?
[10:41] <Toma-> cubex: maybe
[10:41] <Toma-> !info apt-file
[10:41] <ubotu> apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.7ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[10:42] <linkd> the print screen key thing is a gnome thing.
[10:42] <Toma-> correwct-a-mundo
[10:42] <cubex> thanks, i'll check
[10:42] <omeg> Madpilot: it does, but not when I've got a drop-down menu open.
[10:42] <linkd> omeg: file > acquire > screenshot :)
[10:42] <linkd> omeg: you can "time" screenshots
[10:42] <linkd> with like a delay
[10:43] <bob_4_a_day> cant do that with a menu open either
[10:43] <linkd> in GIMP that is
[10:43] <omeg> Aha
[10:43] <omeg> That works
[10:45] <yamiLuceid> Hello anyone experienced with totem-xine? ><
[10:45] <locomorto> yamiLuceid: whats wrong?
[10:45] <sklav> later all
[10:46] <yamiLuceid> Well whenever I try playing mkv or ogm files (they have subtitles and audio tracks included) I'm unable to switch subtitles or audio tracks
[10:46] <yamiLuceid> It's dimmed
[10:46] <linkd> omeg: if ur interested in getting rid of the GIMP tab on ur taskbar in ur screenies. 2 things u can do. either open GIMP on a seperate desktop. or use another screenie tool.. like scrot. that has a timer on it also.
[10:46] <linkd> omeg: bit of pointless extra info there
[10:48] <yamiLuceid> Already spent hours googling about it, all I see are people happoly enjoying their totem-xine working perfectly ><
[10:48] <yamiLuceid> happily*
[10:48] <bob_4_a_day> gimp     thats kinda crippled isn't it
[10:48] <linkd> cippled?
[10:48] <linkd> *crippled
[10:49] <ulisse> hello people
[10:50] <ulisse> what is the difference between the kernel recovery mode and the normal one?
[10:50] <yamiLuceid> locomorto? ><
[10:51] <ulisse> I have a pc hanging on login with normal mode, but it works if I run gdm from recovery mode
[10:51] <locomorto> yamiLuceid: try using vlc
[10:51] <yamiLuceid> Is there any other way?
[10:52] <bob_4_a_day> resent upgrade ulisse ?
[10:52] <ulisse> fresh install, bob_4_a_day
[10:54] <bob_4_a_day> haven't seen that yet.    with upgrade some have been having to 'rm ~/.X* ~/.I* '    but not on a fresh install....
[10:54] <Toma-> yamiLuceid: have you installed all the needed plugins?
[10:55] <renato> ciao
[10:55] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, the pc is a 64bit one, but I installed ubuntu32, could it be related?
[10:56] <bob_4_a_day> ulisse if you know anything about cli you can see what it's doing by booting and when it asks for login hit alt+f1 and login there  kill gdm and startx manually to see what errors out.
[10:56] <yamiLuceid> Toma-, I'm pretty sure I have
[10:56] <Toma-> yamiLuceid: do you get any output in the terminal?
[10:56] <yamiLuceid> I followed the ubuntuguide about codecs
[10:57] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, when I get the login screen I can't hit any key, it freezes abruptly.
[10:57] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, is it the same if I startx from recovery mode?
[10:57] <ronaldinho> you are pig
[10:58] <bob_4_a_day> it could be 64bit is kinda over my head     i hear about people running 32bit ub on k7's but i know nothing about k7
[10:58] <Toma-> ahh bbl
 bob_4_a_day, is it the same if I startx from recovery mode? <--- no
[10:58] <ronaldinho> where do you live
[10:58] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day,  I'll try via ssh from another pc...
[10:58] <bob_4_a_day> k
[10:59] <bob_4_a_day> ronaldinho whom ?
[11:00] <ronaldinho> can you speak indonesian?
[11:00] <topyli> is building mono and beagle from debian sources something a mortal could actually do? i've never tried to build mono
[11:00] <bob_4_a_day> no ronaldinho
[11:01] <mamoru> hello. I've got a problem with sound under ubuntu, please help me. When I login as the first user the sound works OK. If I create another user (adduser foo), the sound doesn't work for the new user. It still works for the first user.
[11:01] <ronaldinho> if you can not, you are verrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy stupid
[11:01] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, I think it freezes the kernel itself, 'cause it do not react on ssh request...
[11:01] <bob_4_a_day> !info mono
[11:01] <ubotu> mono: (Mono CLI (.NET) runtime), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[11:01] <bob_4_a_day> !info beagle
[11:01] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[11:01] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: 1.1.8 is broken
[11:01] <ronaldinho> do you know bali?
[11:01] <bob_4_a_day> ah.
[11:01] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: it makes beagled crash
[11:02] <bob_4_a_day> !info mono hoary
[11:02] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[11:02] <bob_4_a_day> !info beagle hoary
[11:02] <mamoru> !info sound
[11:02] <Hoxzer> !info mysql
[11:02] <bob_4_a_day> !register
[11:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register
[11:03] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: also, beagle 1.1.2 is out and in debian unstable, so i might as well build that too. I'll see if the dependencies allow me to get a sane build environment
[11:03] <ProN00b> how do i give nautilus preview support for xvids
[11:04] <bob_4_a_day> yeah i was just checking the repos to see if i could see any reason for building,  you say it's broken.   that is reason enough.
[11:04] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: if it works for others, nice for them. i'll try the build :)
[11:05] <bob_4_a_day> sure
[11:05] <topyli> the beagle wiki says people should upgrade if they have problems
[11:05] <mamoru> hello. I've got a problem with sound under ubuntu, please help me. When I login as the first user the sound works OK. If I create another user (adduser foo), the sound doesn't work for the new user. It still works for the first user.
[11:05] <ronaldinho> do you h
[11:06] <ProN00b> how can i give nautilus preview support for xvid files ?
[11:06] <bob_4_a_day> ProN00b right click one maybe ?
[11:06] <ProN00b> no ? -_-
[11:06] <ronaldinho> done you have a wife
[11:07] <ronaldinho> done you have a wife ?
[11:07] <bob_4_a_day> mamoru can you add the new user 'foo' to group sound  ?
[11:07] <crimsun> ronaldinho: that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, how ?
[11:10] <bob_4_a_day> man groupadd
[11:13] <topyli> mamoru: you can also use the pointy-clicky tool in system  -> admin -> users&groups
[11:13] <mamoru> i have done the following:
[11:13] <bob_4_a_day> pointy-clicky-thingy's  hah
[11:14] <mamoru> man groupadd, sudo groupadd sound, man usermod, sudo usermod -G sound foo
[11:14] <mamoru> should work now?
[11:14] <cyhatch> Em, what do I add to my apt's sources.list so that I can upgrade from 4.10 packages to 5.04 from a CD?
[11:15] <bob_4_a_day> looks like
[11:15] <bob_4_a_day> !upgrade
[11:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:16] <cyhatch> Thanks.
[11:17] <bob_4_a_day> gimp = crippled
[11:17] <bob_4_a_day> 	Crippled /Crippled/ (kr?pp'ld), a. Lamed; lame; disabled; impeded. "The crippled crone." Longfellow. 
[11:17] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, it didn't help, gonna try the topyli method system -> admin -> users&groups
[11:18] <bob_4_a_day> yeah pointy clicky thingy  :)
[11:19] <atlasiatko> hi
[11:19] <topyli> heh
[11:19] <bob_4_a_day> pointy-clicky-thingy's  hehhe
[11:19] <atlasiatko> i have a question do you know somthing like turbo pascal but for linux with grphic editor ??
[11:21] <brosioz> http://www.dimi.uniud.it/~montana/exams/c20040323BDI.ps
[11:21] <brosioz> ops sorry
[11:22] <topyli> hmm. the mono build is making a record on compiler warnings :)
[11:22] <bob_4_a_day> gcc is the compiler but as to the grphic editor, that would be a pointy-clicky-thingy which i don't do atlasiatko
[11:23] <bob_4_a_day> topyli what would be a turbo-pascal alike app ?
[11:23] <topyli> atlasiatko: maybe you're looking for something like anjuta: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/
[11:23] <topyli> i have no idea what turbo pascal is like =)
[11:24] <tom> how can i change the default terminal emulator? it is gnome-terminal at the moment, but i want aterm as the default terminal emulator
[11:24] <atlasiatko> its like a hmm text editor ;P
[11:25] <mamoru> yes, the pointy-clicky stuff worked. It looks like i shouldn't add the group 'sound' - the related group had already exist.
[11:25] <bob_4_a_day> vim-enhansed
[11:25] <mamoru> the group is called 'audio'
[11:25] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, i am reinstalling the 46 bit version, but it hangs on "configuring gsfonts"... what could I do?
[11:25] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, topyli thanx a lot!
[11:26] <bob_4_a_day> sorry audio not sound,   i should know that.
[11:26] <bob_4_a_day> pebcak my end......
[11:26] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, but you taught me the new command-line command 'groupadd', so thanks a lot!
[11:26] <cyhatch> tom: Do you mean "Preferred applications" under "Desktop Preferences"?
[11:26] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[11:27] <tom> cyhatch: yeah. thanks
[11:29] <rixth> Ubuntu's version of flex is EIGHT YEARS out of date FFS.
[11:29] <Madpilot> is there any way to get gEdit to print or display in w/ the page in landscape mode?
[11:29] <BB_wild> hi, how i can power off my sreensaver in console mode???
[11:29] <bob_4_a_day> mamoru there is also groupdel if you need it now   lol
[11:29] <mamoru> yeah, thanks :)
[11:30] <BB_wild> do u know that?
[11:30] <bob_4_a_day> screensaver in console mode ?????  never heard of any such thing......   are you sure that is not bios apm  or something ?
[11:30] <rixth> !tell BB_wild about u
[11:31] <BB_wild> im spanish and my english is bad xD
[11:31] <robotgeek> Madpilot: display?
[11:31] <Mr_Milenko> Well im 6'5" 350lbs.. full grown beard nicley trimmed...
[11:31] <bob_4_a_day> ! tell me about screen saver in console mode
[11:31] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, bob_4_a_day
[11:31] <Mr_Milenko> Also i like long walks in the park... and i love to play boggle
[11:31] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[11:32] <robotgeek> Madpilot: printing, i can understand. what's displaying a text file in landscape mode?
[11:32] <Madpilot> robotgeek: never mind, I think i've got it sorted
[11:33] <mamoru> i suppose the question is about the command-line command for disabling the screensaver
[11:33] <BB_wild> my screensavers give me  problems
[11:33] <BB_wild> i want power off in text mode
[11:33] <bob_4_a_day> but in console mode there is no screensaver,  at least not that i know anything about
[11:34] <bob_4_a_day> BB_wild bios
[11:34] <bob_4_a_day> BB_wild bios   apm settings
[11:34] <bob_4_a_day> that is all there is.
[11:34] <BB_wild> ya
[11:34] <BB_wild> but
[11:34] <BB_wild> that give me problems too
[11:34] <BB_wild> :(
[11:35] <topyli> !info lockvc
[11:35] <ubotu> lockvc: (Screensaver to lock your Linux console(s)), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4.0.5-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 42 kB, Installed size: 224 kB
[11:35] <mamoru> BB_wild,  you want a command for disabling screensaver?
[11:35] <topyli> :)
[11:35] <BB_wild> yeeah
[11:35] <bob_4_a_day> do you mean you want to know how to turn the computer off from the cli
[11:35] <BB_wild> yes mamoru
[11:35] <topyli> killall xscreensaver
[11:36] <robotgeek> sudo shutdown -h now
[11:36] <bob_4_a_day> oh i get it.  you locked your self out ......no...... that's not it....  or you cant sudo either.
[11:37] <mamoru> BB_wild, use 'killall xscreensaver', as topyli says
[11:37] <mamoru> BB_wild, to enable screensaver again, type 'xscreensaver &' in the terminal again.
[11:37] <bob_4_a_day> BB_wild /j #ubuntu-es  ?
[11:38] <bob_4_a_day> !es
[11:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:39] <bob_4_a_day> what the crap is orbit ?
[11:40] <mamoru> some kind a chewing gum?
[11:40] <Elektrochelovek> !boost
[11:40] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Elektrochelovek
[11:40] <topyli> damn, i should log in to a faster machine for compiling big stuff. this mono biuld is taking forever
[11:40] <bob_4_a_day> i know everything gui depends on it but have no clue what it is.
[11:40] <BB_wild> jeje thanks to all, solucionado! :)
[11:40] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[11:41] <orbx> how do you access a ext3 partitioned hard drive via the terminal?
[11:41] <linkd> orbx: do you know where its mounted?
[11:41] <orbx> linkd > what do you mean "mounted"
[11:41] <topyli> orbx: mount it, use it :)
[11:41] <orbx> its /dev/hdb
[11:41] <bob_4_a_day> sudo mount /dev/hd?# /mountpoint      assumes it is not yet mounted......
[11:42] <ulisse> orbx, man mount
[11:42] <orbx> is that mount
[11:42] <orbx> ok
[11:42] <orbx> whats mount point do?
[11:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell orbx about windowsdrivers
[11:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell orbx about windowsdriver
[11:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell orbx about windowsdrives
[11:42] <topyli> orbx: typie "mount" and it will tell you what is mounted and what is not
[11:42] <bob_4_a_day> it is a directory that you want the partition to appear on
[11:42] <linkd> robotgeek: its ext3
[11:42] <linkd> orbx: make a directory in /media or so and mount to that directory
[11:42] <robotgeek> linkd: that script will work
[11:43] <orbx> no its not mounted
[11:43] <ulisse> orbx, try to see what partitions are in the disk with "cat /proc/partitions"
[11:43] <orbx> how do i man hdb
[11:43] <robotgeek> orbx: follow that link, download the script to automagically detect and mount partitions
[11:43] <ulisse> and find the one you want to mount
[11:44] <orbx> its just one big ext3 partition
[11:44] <topyli> orbx: does the drive have many partitions or just one?
[11:44] <orbx> one
[11:44] <robotgeek> orbx: sudo fdisk -l
[11:44] <topyli> orbx: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[11:44] <ulisse> orbx, so it is hdb1
[11:44] <bob_4_a_day> orbx are you sure ?         man man       then  man mount     then    type  mount        then type   fdisk -l
[11:44] <[Yoni] > Hi all
[11:45] <bob_4_a_day> ulisse it probably is #1 but could be any number.....
[11:45] <orbx> sorry i quit by mistake
[11:45] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: he said it's just one big partition
[11:45] <mamoru> lol!!!! http://bash.org/?11185
[11:45] <robotgeek> orbx: :)
[11:45] <[Yoni] > Where can I find a tutorial about how to compile by my own a kernel + modules & everything for linux begginers? ( I want to learn how to compile for better perfomance )
[11:46] <linkd> lol
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> topyli i can make one partition on an hd and have it be #5   duh
[11:46] <robotgeek> [Yoni] : check the wiki, it has lots of links to compiling stuff
[11:46] <orbx> i am getting a media hd ready for the xbox360, so basicly windows needs to read it. What would i convert the hd to?
[11:46] <topyli>  k
[11:46] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: true enough :)
[11:46] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, I got the 64 bit one working!
[11:46] <Mr_Milenko> orbx: lol...
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[11:46] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > what?
[11:46] <Mr_Milenko> Xbox 360 is the biggest peice of crap out there right now
[11:46] <MistaED> orbx: do you know what format the xbox 360 hard drives are set to?
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> You should have waited about a month or so
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> and for windows to read it..
[11:47] <MistaED> like the original was fatx, a hacked up fat32 thing, but surely the xbox 360 has journalising now
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> NTFS or FatX
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> erm
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> FAT
[11:47] <[Yoni] > kk, I will...
[11:47] <orbx> MistaED > no no, it reads windows partitions, so you can play media on tv from comoputer
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> as of yet we dont know what filesystem the 360 uses..
[11:47] <MistaED> cool
[11:47] <orbx> so NTFS?
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> yes orbx
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> for your PC
[11:48] <MistaED> hope it's FATX still, for the rest of us
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> dont try to put an HDD in the 360
[11:48] <orbx> or fat32
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> also you need Windows MCE
[11:48] <topyli> orbx: if fat32 would do, it would be better (you could better access it on linux boxen)
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> The media functions are used in conjunction to Windows Media Center
[11:48] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > no, you don't put the hd in the 360, it reads the hd from your home network
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> your screwed if you dont have it..
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> i know orbx
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:48] <orbx> ok
[11:49] <bob_4_a_day> orbx i'm going to give you a list of commands you should type to learn about mounting partitions and using linux cli     'man man ' <--- how to use the manuels  'man mount '  <--- learning about mounting file systems     'man fdisk '  <--- learning about working with or idintifying partitions
[11:49] <MistaED> needing MCE is just silly IMO, although you can see from their point of view the 360 would just kill their own product MCE in one swoop
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[11:49] <orbx> thanks bob
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> MistaED: the media functions suck in the 360
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> Xbox Media Center blows it out of the water
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> ;)
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> thank god for mplayer..
[11:50] <MistaED> i'll stick to my xbmc-enabled xbox for now
[11:50] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[11:50] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > no x360 is the king
[11:50] <Mr_Milenko> Think what you like orbx..
[11:50] <orbx> MistaED > yea i might put linux on my xbox now
[11:50] <Mr_Milenko> Xbox 360's media center is a pile of shit.
[11:51] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > a proven fact your wrong.
[11:51] <Mr_Milenko> Yeah ok
[11:51] <MistaED> sony PS3's CEO said they will have linux supported... just what kind of support is the question =/
[11:51] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > please don't go off topic ;) but your wrong
[11:51] <Mr_Milenko> Whatever you say kid
[11:51] <robotgeek> please keep non ubuntu talk in #offtopic
[11:51] <bob_4_a_day> guys.    that is offtopic.     and we all know that every mama crow's little crow is always the blackest crow.
[11:51] <Mr_Milenko> hmm
[11:51] <MistaED> :O
[11:51] <orbx> *Looks at preorder
[11:52] <bungle> woo the island is a wikid movie
[11:52] <cafuego> people who pay money to MS for anything have no right to an option here. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:52] <robotgeek> cafuego: *opinion*
[11:52] <cafuego> robotgeek: yeah, well, YOU try that with lotsa beer in ya ;-)
[11:52] <linkd> :|
[11:52] <Mr_Milenko> cafuego: its people like you that piss me off about this community..
[11:53] <orbx> microsoft is good for somethings, bad for OS
[11:53] <cafuego> Mr_Milenko: It's people who whine about unrelated crap that annoy me.
[11:53] <robotgeek> Mr_Milenko: he was being funny
[11:53] <linkd> lets not start to comment on the windows OS. thatll only start a conflict
[11:53] <cafuego> Mr_Milenko: '/ignore cafuego' if you object.
[11:53] <orbx> cafuego > windows OS is better than ubuntu
[11:53] <Mr_Milenko> ROFL
[11:53] <orbx> no lol thats a joke
[11:53] <linkd> ok that changed quickly..
[11:53] <robotgeek> orbx: again, please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <orbx> i use ubuntu
[11:54] <topyli> i use ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <orbx> which is better debian or ubuntu?
[11:54] <bob_4_a_day> orbx i'd sujest drop it or go to #ubuntu-offtopic  pdq.
[11:55] <Mr_Milenko> id say ubuntu... updated more
[11:55] <orbx> okie
[11:55] <orbx> bob_4_a_day > no, that was a ubuntu related topic.
[11:56] <bob_4_a_day> last time i checked trolling was still frowned on here........
[11:56] <orbx> ok sorry
[11:56] <topyli> orbx: that was a distro war related topic
[11:56] <orbx> topyli > i know
[11:57] <orbx> do you copy to a empty fat32 one partitioned hard drive with mv?
[11:58] <Mr_Milenko> you can
[11:58] <Mr_Milenko> yes
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> you copy with cp   you move with mv
[11:58] <linkd> orbx: cp -R /media/fat32_mountpoint would work better :P
[11:58] <linkd> yar
[11:58] <orbx> ok how do i create dir, would it be
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> mkdir
[11:58] <linkd> mkdir new/dir
[11:59] <orbx> mkdir media /dev/hdb1/
[11:59] <bob_4_a_day> no
[12:00] <Madpilot> orbx: no, that already exists
[12:00] <orbx> oh ok
[12:00] <orbx> can you use cd
[12:00] <orbx> to set current DIR to new hd?
[12:00] <kevor> what's the program called in ubuntu to make partitions?
[12:00] <Madpilot> orbx: I thought you wanted to mount this harddrive?
[12:01] <kevor> the graphical one
[12:01] <topyli> oh. i have to shy away from building beagle 0.1.2. too many dependencies to build
[12:01] <topyli> maybe the mono upgrade will be enough to fix things :)
[12:02] <wobster> hi everyone. can I install breezy with a hoary install-cd? like, changing the version during installation or similar?
[12:02] <bob_4_a_day> orbx think --->      sudo mkdir /media/<something>   &&   sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/hdb1 /media/<something>  && cp -R /path/to/origenal/files  /media/<something>
[12:03] <bob_4_a_day> wobster if you are familear with linux cli    install server and then upgrade
[12:03] <bob_4_a_day> !upgrade
[12:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:03] <robotgeek> wobster: you can install the base system, then follow the upgrade to breezy
[12:04] <wobster> alright. thank you two
[12:04] <bob_4_a_day> np
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !libstlport4.6
[12:05] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !libstlport
[12:05] <ubotu> Not a clue, Elektrochelovek
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !libstl
[12:05] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !no_shot
[12:05] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: I give up, what is it?
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !no_shit;D
[12:05] <robotgeek> Elektrochelovek: what are you trying to do
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> !info libstlport4.6
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> !info libstlport
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> no package....
[12:06] <robotgeek> please apt-cache it, it's faster
[12:06] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[12:06] <topyli> Elektrochelovek: /msg ubotu and read the help
[12:06] <topyli> it has help doesn't it?
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> yeah robotgeek but i'd nave to install ub to do it that way.....
[12:06] <Madpilot> topyli: ubotu's help isn't very helpful...
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> s/nave/have
[12:07] <Elektrochelovek> parse error
[12:07] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell bob_4_a_day about search
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> i noticed Madpilot
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> lol
[12:07] <Elektrochelovek> ubotu: tell Elektrochelovek about ubotu
[12:07] <mamoru> Elektrochelovek, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libstlport&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> robotgeek mmmm <bob_4_a_day> wants you to know that would also require installing ubuntu lol
[12:08] <robotgeek> bob_4_a_day: not packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[12:08] <Elektrochelovek> mamoru, but whet i apt-get install libstlport4.6 it says "Package libstlport4.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  robotgeek wants you to know: hmm... search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename"   <---- well all that would...
[12:09] <robotgeek> bob_4_a_day: i know, i referred tou to packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[12:10] <mamoru> Elektrochelovek,      /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:10] <bob_4_a_day> yes yes we've been there now......
[12:11] <akonkwa> I'm trying to install the JRE, following the steps of the starter guide. when I try to use the command "fakeroot", it says "command not found". Any ideas?
[12:11] <mamoru> Elektrochelovek, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:11] <Elektrochelovek> got it
[12:11] <Elektrochelovek> ;] 
[12:11] <robotgeek> akonkwa: sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[12:11] <Elektrochelovek> mamoru, i'm Lithianian, not russian;] 
[12:11] <akonkwa> robotgeek,  thanx
[12:11] <ke> Haha
[12:11] <mamoru> Elektrochelovek, no problem, braliukas :)
[12:12] <Elektrochelovek> ;DDD
[12:13] <bob_4_a_day> now there's a nick that conjures up bad images......  SignOff GeekBRA: #ubuntu (Client Quit)
[12:13] <Elektrochelovek> oh, riga;] ]  braliukas
[12:15] <akonkwa> robotgeek : when I try this command "sudo fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" it says , "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found" do you know what this means?
[12:15] <robotgeek> akonkwa: moment
[12:16] <robotgeek> akonkwa: are you following the wiki article on java?
[12:16] <akonkwa> robotgeek, : No the official starter guide
[12:17] <topyli> akonkwa: you didn't install any of the build environment. install the build-essential and java-package packages
[12:18] <akonkwa> topyli,: Hi again :) . How exactly do I do this?
[12:18] <robotgeek> akonkwa: sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common
[12:18] <prophessor> Hola
[12:18] <bob_4_a_day> and build-essential
[12:18] <topyli> akonkwa: you install packages with apt-get or the clickity-click package manager
[12:19] <Hobbsee> topyli: lol @ the clickity-click package manager!  I like it!
[12:19] <akonkwa> robotgeek,: So does that mean that " sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common" has installed java on my computer?
[12:19] <bob_4_a_day> pointy clicky thingy
[12:20] <Hobbsee> nah, clickity-click package manager is better :P
[12:20] <Hobbsee> otherwise known as synaptic
[12:20] <orbx> bob_4_a_day > how do i check if i have mounted the hd correctly?
[12:20] <robotgeek> akonkwa: instead of all that, you can also install it from a .deb package
[12:20] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell akonkwa about javadebs
[12:20] <topyli> Hobbsee: we could change the menu entry to be "Clickety-Click Package Manager". the tooltip could say "Install packages with the pointy clicky thingy"
[12:20] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:20] <Hobbsee> now that'd be fun
[12:21] <Hobbsee> that'd give me a reason to download synaptic again!
[12:21] <bob_4_a_day> orbx if you read the man page on mount you would know.    'mount '   will list all mounted fs's
[12:21] <topyli> Hobbsee: file a wishlist bug for the dapper deveopment team :)
[12:22] <robotgeek> orbx: you still stuck at mounting?
[12:22] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[12:22] <orbx> robotgeek > i still suck at linux :(
[12:22] <akonkwa> Can I install debian packages on ubuntu hoary?
[12:23] <robotgeek> orbx: no problem, everyone goes through the same phase
[12:23] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: it's not recommended
[12:23] <orbx> robotgeek > although i have mysql installed now :)
[12:23] <bob_4_a_day> akonkwa yes.... but it will probably break things.
[12:23] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: some packages yes, some no
[12:23] <topyli> akonkwa: not really. use the source repositories and build ubuntu packages from them
[12:23] <robotgeek> akonkwa: if you are talking about the java package, it's built for breezy
[12:23] <MistaED> does anyone know what dapper drake's default iconset/theme will be? possibly the tango suite?
[12:24] <robotgeek> orbx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ,download the linked script. it will detect and add all the relevant entries. very automagic
[12:25] <akonkwa> robotgeek : I'm talking about a glgo client for playing go , that uses opengl. I have the choice between rpm, deb, tar.gz or package. Wich one shoul I choose? and why?
[12:25] <bob_4_a_day> automatic    yuch !
[12:25] <Earthpig> anyone know how to disable fbcon on bootup? it looks like mkinitramfs hard-codes it to load on bootup.
[12:25] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: you can try the .deb, that will be the easiest to install, otherwise go the .tar.gz and compile it
[12:26] <akonkwa> Hobbsee: but won't it break things?
[12:26] <DRAGON_Ultra> morning all
[12:26] <resistor> yup
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> Earthpig maybe add 'nofbcon' to the commandline for the kernel ?
[12:26] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: the deb could, the .tar.gz wont
[12:27] <akonkwa> Hobbsee: An how do I compile it exactly, once I've got it?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !tell akonkwa about compile
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !tell akonkwa about checkinstall
[12:29] <bob_4_a_day> Earthpig there is probably a 'pointy clicky thingy' for configuring the boot time processes.....
[12:29] <Earthpig> I can't find it ;)
[12:30] <topyli> akonkwa: the glgo web page does advertise ubuntu compatibility of their debs
[12:30] <Earthpig> as far as i can tell, mkinitramfs just hard codes all the modules from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/initrd into the boot.
[12:30] <mips> Hi,
[12:30] <Earthpig> that includes fbcon
[12:30] <bob_4_a_day> i'd help ya look but that would require that i install ub
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> i don't even use an initrd.
[12:32] <Earthpig> bob: the standard kernels use it.
[12:32] <Earthpig> technically, initramfs, not initrd (anymor)
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> havent used an initrd in ages....
[12:33] <dpupp> help... im having an issues here logging in. i went to install k3b, and something went wrong... now, i cant log in. its saying something about my session lasted less than 10 sec. ... warning\; unable to read ICE authority file /home/ookami/.iceauthority
[12:33] <robotgeek> akonkwa: what are you trying to compile/install anyways?
[12:34] <MistaED> hey is it possible with mount to get an .iso file and be able to add files to it? like a rw iso?
[12:34] <HappyFool> dpupp: do you have a text login now ?
[12:34] <linkd> MistaED: i think ud need a specific ISO editor for that
[12:34] <blendor> Bonjour
[12:34] <HappyFool> MistaED: i don't think so
[12:34] <dpupp> i happyfool, i can get one..
[12:34] <bob_4_a_day> dpupp 'rm ~/.*authority* '   and try again.
[12:34] <arnducky> Does anyone want to read my multisync + bluetooth bug report?
[12:35] <blendor> dites, c'est dans QUELLE FICHIER QU'ON PEUT ENCORE DEFINIR DES VARIABLES D'ENVIRONNEMENTS ( UN NIVEAU GLOBAL (ALL USERS) ?
[12:35] <robotgeek> arnducky: sure
[12:35] <blendor> Oups
[12:35] <MistaED> or chown the ICE file to your username
[12:35] <HappyFool> dpupp: login, and remove ~/.ICEauthority
[12:35] <blendor> Dsol pour les majuscules
[12:35] <dpupp> happyfool, doing right now...
[12:35] <HappyFool> dpupp: something like 'sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority' ought to work
[12:35] <MistaED> so is it ok to remove it?
[12:35] <robotgeek> blendor: #ubuntu-fr
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> yes
[12:35] <blendor> robertbb, ok, i have forget, sorry
[12:35] <blendor> i go on the french channel.
[12:36] <robotgeek> blendor: np :)
[12:36] <akonkwa> robotgeek: I'd like to try to compile/install it , just to learn how it is done
[12:36] <robotgeek> akonkwa: which one, java?
[12:36] <akonkwa> robotgeek: No, the glgo client
[12:37] <robotgeek> akonkwa: ah, kk. np, we'll help u thru it
[12:37] <dpupp> happyfool! you are not officially a god in my books ;)
[12:37] <robotgeek> DRAGON_Ultra: please fix your client
[12:37] <akonkwa> robotgeek; thanx
[12:37] <dpupp> thanks!
[12:37] <arnducky> ubotu, tell arnducky about pastebin
[12:38] <akonkwa> robotgeek: right now I've installed build-essential, cvs, and subversion (that's what they said on the wiki)
[12:38] <arnducky> !pastebin dammit
[12:38] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, arnducky
[12:38] <robotgeek> arnducky: also try /msg ubotu pastebin
[12:38] <HappyFool> dpupp: np
[12:38] <robotgeek> akonkwa: link?
[12:38] <arnducky> robotgeek, no nicksrv reg'n remember?
[12:38] <arnducky> !pastebin
[12:38] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:39] <Hobbsee> !tell arnducky about register
[12:39] <akonkwa> robotgeek, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingEasyHowTo?highlight=%28compiling%29
[12:39] <robotgeek> akonkwa: link to glgo client would also help
[12:39] <bob_4_a_day> what fs is initrd ?  ramfs mounts but shows no inodes.....
[12:40] <arnducky> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5076
[12:40] <bob_4_a_day> like i said i havent played with an initrd in ages
[12:40] <arnducky> servogeek?
[12:40] <akonkwa> robotgeek: Ah ok, sorry about that. here goes:http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/glgo/download.html
[12:41] <MistaED> hey does someone here know where I could find a configuration program or the conf file for gnome-volume-manager?
[12:41] <robotgeek> arnducky: nice
[12:41] <MistaED> i'd like to add the option to sync for removable storage and have UDF cd's mount :D
[12:42] <robotgeek> akonkwa: it's python based, you won't need to compile
[12:42] <Xanthus7> Question
[12:43] <Earthpig> bob: initrd under Debian was cramfs. the new initramfs is a cpio.gz archive.
[12:43] <akonkwa> robotgeek: So what will I have to do?
[12:43] <robotgeek> akonkwa: getting the file, one sec
[12:43] <Xanthus7> anyone know why I cannot download the 5.10 dvd
[12:44] <mamoru> how to play .wmv files?
[12:44] <Ankka> mamoru: you need w32codecs
[12:44] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mamoru about w32codecs
[12:44] <dpupp> to fix a program that didnt install right, or to reinstall the same program, is there any special options one must specify in the command?
[12:44] <bob_4_a_day> yah  but cram errors out.....
[12:44] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm
[12:45] <robotgeek> dpupp: sudo aptitude purge <pkg> && sudo aptitude install <pkg>
[12:45] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe i'll rm it and make another and if it wont mount ill rm it and quit....
[12:47] <topyli> dpupp: apt-get install --reinstall foo. but why would it install right this time if it's the same package? :)
[12:47] <robotgeek> akonkwa: do you want a oneliner? :)
[12:47] <mamoru> should i dpkg -i w32blablabla ?
[12:47] <akonkwa> robotgeek: what's a one liner?
[12:48] <arnducky> robotgeek, why do I get the feeling that you aren't saying 'nice' because there is an obvious solution... =o\
[12:48] <bob_4_a_day> well i guess i can't mount an initrd...... hehhe oh well i don't use it anyway.
[12:48] <robotgeek> akonkwa: it's pretty easy to install, it's one line
[12:49] <robotgeek> arnducky: my only interest was cause i wrote the Multisync article on the wiki. :(
[12:49] <akonkwa> robotgeek: Ok, go ahead
[12:49] <robotgeek> akonkwa: can we do this in a query?
[12:49] <topyli> robotgeek: oh, there's a multisync article?
[12:49] <robotgeek> topyli: it's just horribly outdated
[12:50] <dpupp> topyli, because i did something wrong the first time.. :)
[12:50] <arnducky> Not a coincidence then, that we've met, is it.
[12:50] <dpupp> so to record mp3 to cda (audio cd) it appears i need a plugin... but none of the programs are saying which plugin... anyone have an idea?
[12:51] <arnducky> (of the thousands of Ubuntu geeken and hundreds of developers that I could have offered to show that bug bitchingness to, you were here tonight...)
[12:51] <robotgeek> akonkwa: if you have the .gz file, all you need to do is tar -zxf file.tar.gz , and sudo ./install
[12:52] <robotgeek> arnducky: were you following that article ?
[12:52] <NaTeek> Hallo.
[12:52] <akonkwa> robotgeek, Ok thanx
[12:52] <arnducky> robotgeek, do you have any idea how I might get my Bluetooth adapter to shake hands with my cellphone the way it should do?
[12:52] <NaTeek> Is anybody using screem?
[12:52] <robotgeek> you mentioned that they were talking?
[12:52] <bob_4_a_day> nice.... grub-install errors out with '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.'
[12:52] <arnducky> robotgeek, I'm not shure which article you mean -- I read several tonight before trying multisync.
[12:53] <robotgeek> arnducky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultisyncHowto
[12:53] <arnducky> BBIAB -- feeding time int he duckypond (must satiate the meat so I can keep on hacking for another 72 hours -- hah!)
[12:53] <akonkwa> robotgeek,: What do you mean by sudo /.install exactly?
[12:53] <NeoRc> hi room
[12:54] <robotgeek> akonkwa: sudo ./glGo.install
[12:54] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: probably typing that command in a console, once you've cd'd to the directory it created when you unpacked the .tar.gz
[12:54] <akonkwa> Ok, Isee
[12:54] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: it doesn't create one. it does have an uninstall script tho
[12:54] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:57] <jozefj> hi just install ubuntu for 3 days now, need help on totem movie player.. anyone wants to help me?
[12:57] <crimsun> jozefj: what issue(s)?
[12:58] <jozefj> how to play dvd or mp3
[12:58] <jozefj> and to mount vcd
[12:58] <ProN00b> jozefj, install vlc, its better than totem
[12:58] <linkd> jozefj:
[12:58] <MistaED> what happened to the gtk2 build of vlc?
[12:59] <linkd> jozefj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats might be worth a read for u
[12:59] <bob_4_a_day> what line do i add for cdrom boot in grub ?
[12:59] <MistaED> for me it looks motif
[12:59] <jozefj> ij
[12:59] <jozefj> ok
[12:59] <robotgeek> MistaED: it's gtk1, gtk2 is in backports
[12:59] <jozefj> how to install vlc?
[12:59] <crimsun> MistaED: I disabled it for Breezy final due to UTF-8 parsing issues in that version of vlc and wxwidgets2.6.
[12:59] <robotgeek> jozefj: enable universe, and install from synaptic
[12:59] <MistaED> ah
[01:00] <bob_4_a_day> anyone boot a cdrom from grub ?    howto ?
[01:00] <refuze2looze> how can i limit my upload bandwidth?
[01:00] <crimsun> robotgeek: I'm not going to discuss it; it has been rehashed for months on end. :-) Read the changelog.
[01:00] <jozefj> im really new on linux
[01:00] <jozefj>  anyone i could pv to ask basic question?
[01:00] <robotgeek> crimsun: i don't really care. full screen works wonderfully
[01:01] <robotgeek> jozefj: you are in the right place. ask away
[01:01] <crimsun> When 0.8.4 hits Sid, we'll merge it
[01:01] <robotgeek> neat, i'll wait
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> jozefj just ask,  don't ask to ask....
[01:02] <jozefj> ok
[01:02] <jozefj> im downloading vlc
[01:02] <jozefj> what is gnome and gtk?
[01:02] <jozefj> i think gnome is the desktop right?
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> yep
[01:02] <crimsun> jozefj: you probably want the "pretty" GTK+ 2 version in breezy-backports
[01:03] <jozefj> ok.. u lost me there
[01:03] <bob_4_a_day> gtk = gnu tool kit  ?
[01:03] <jozefj> pretty? in breezy-backporrts?
[01:03] <mjr> bob_4_a_day, actually, GIMP toolkit :)
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> gimp tool kit    ok
[01:04] <MistaED> jozefj: it means that videolan version will blend in well with your interface/theme
[01:04] <mjr> bob_4_a_day, though, in the end, it's GNU Image Manipulation Program ToolKit :)
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> gimp is a crippled right ?
[01:04] <jozefj> ok
[01:04] <mjr> bob_4_a_day, not in this context :)
[01:04] <robotgeek> jozefj: gnome is your environment. gtk is a library for display. gtk1 < gtk2
[01:04] <jozefj> so i should have the gtk+ 2 version, is that it?
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[01:04] <jozefj> ooo ok
[01:05] <jozefj> library as in themes?
[01:05] <robotgeek> jozefj: well, for display of text boxes,menus etc
[01:06] <goki_> when I build a package from source, I get an x86_64 package, even though I am building on amd64
[01:06] <goki_> is there anything I can do about that?
[01:06] <lord_rob> Hi ! Can Ubuntu install CD be used as a debian sid installer directly ?
[01:06] <sven> when I'm working in Ubuntu I cannot open the disk manager, it keeps on loading
[01:06] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm all the gtk i have installed here is 'libgtk+1.2'
[01:06] <sven> it only works when I restarted and then open the diskmanager
[01:06] <goki_> ill be back
[01:06] <MistaED> goki_: i'm pretty sure x86_64 = amd64
[01:06] <goki_> oh
[01:06] <lord_rob> goki_: x86_64 = amd64
[01:06] <jozefj> where can i have this gtk +2 ... and to download the vlc..
[01:07] <goki_> Then how come when I try to install that package, it fails?
[01:07] <MistaED> they just call it amd64 still as amd created the 64 arch originally and intel copied
[01:07] <goki_>  package architecture (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)
[01:07] <MistaED> goki_: not sure, maybe it's some other reason?
[01:08] <SirKillalot> how do I ignore package collisions with dpkg?
[01:08] <goki_> It seems to have built some amd64 packages elsewhere, I think
[01:08] <MistaED> goki_: maybe you'll need to rename the makefiles from x86_64 to amd64, *shrugs*
[01:08] <goki_> but they don't match the version I used
[01:08] <goki_> MistaED, nah that can't be right
[01:09] <goki_> plus I suspect the arch will be in the packages as well
[01:09] <ibh> hi all
[01:09] <ibh> i am having ubutno 5.10 and i am not able to run .bin file !
[01:09] <MistaED> other distros are calling their arch x86_64 whereas debian (and possibly other non-deb distos) calls it amd64
[01:09] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm seems moz and xchat are both depending on libgtk  so  maybe i'll remove it anyway......
[01:09] <ibh> it gives error
[01:10] <ArDz> ibh, u've to extract it throught ur terminal
[01:10] <ibh> i am using the terminal !
[01:11] <robotgeek> ibh: what are you trying to install? mostly you extract bin files by ./file.bin
[01:11] <jozefj> anyone can help me here>
[01:11] <peter__> hi i got a pretty dumb question! How do i get gdesklets to start along with the rest of the system
[01:11] <robotgeek> jozefj: what is your issue?
[01:11] <peter__> ?
[01:11] <peter__> I am uing the latest ubuntu
[01:11] <robotgeek> peter__: you just add it your gnome-session, System -> Prefs -> Sessions
[01:11] <ibh> it gives this error "while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:11] <ibh> "
[01:11] <peter__> uhh THANKS!!!
[01:12] <bob_4_a_day> !b-e
[01:12] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[01:12] <robotgeek> ibh: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[01:12] <bob_4_a_day> ibh ^
[01:12] <tech_guy_one> i git my ubuntu cd today, how do i install it without losing my xp install, i have patition magic... :(
[01:12] <HappyFool> ibh: install the libstdc++5 package
[01:12] <goki_> hm, the dpkg-architecture stuff at the start of the build script returns x86_64-linux-gnu
[01:13] <ibh> ok thanks i am installing it now
[01:13] <jozefj> i want to intsall vlc but then i should install it through 'advanced' .. im now in synaptic package manager
[01:13] <ibh> but why it did not come with ubuntu 5.10 !?
[01:13] <jozefj> i dont know what tod o
[01:13] <sven> Can someone help me installing mplayer? I cannot get it from the Add Applications because of repositories and through app-get it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:13] <sven>   mplayer-586: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[01:13] <sven>                Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or
[01:13] <sven>                         svgalib-dummyg1 but it is not installable
[01:13] <robotgeek> sven: please don't paste here
[01:13] <sven> sorry
[01:13] <HappyFool> ibh: it's an older c++ lib
[01:14] <ibh> now its working thank u all
[01:14] <robotgeek> jozefj: did you enable the repos?
[01:14] <MistaED> jozefj: i sent you a query on what to do
[01:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell jozefj about repos
[01:14] <bob_4_a_day> tech_guy_one make some free space and let the installer on the cd do the rest.....    and there is more info on the http://ubuntu.com
[01:14] <robotgeek> jozefj: check your pm
[01:15] <ibh> i was installing RealPlayer for linux
[01:15] <jozefj> ok maybe my question should be this; im really new with linux.. how do i know what i need to know about ubuntu?
[01:15] <robotgeek> ibh: nice
 i dont want all the free space for linux, lets say i ave 15gb free in e: i want to give it only 6 gb
[01:15] <tech_guy_one> can i do that ?
[01:15] <bob_4_a_day> it will ask
[01:15] <robotgeek> jozefj: there is a help guide which will help you start off
[01:15] <bob_4_a_day> and yes you can.
[01:15] <robotgeek> jozefj: System -> Help
[01:16] <robotgeek> jozefj: it will tell you how to do basic tasks with your ubuntu machine
[01:16] <bob_4_a_day> !grub
[01:16] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:17] <jozefj> ok will try
[01:17] <bob_4_a_day> tech_guy_one  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows,  read this first might save a headach
[01:17] <jozefj>  but just to cofirm
[01:18] <jozefj> so totem player cant play dvd and mp3, should install vlc. but have to learn first how to install it with package manager
[01:18] <jozefj> is it true?
thnx
[01:18] <robotgeek> jozefj: yes
[01:18] <robotgeek> jozefj: totem can play mp3 and other stuff if you install a few more packages
[01:18] <bob_4_a_day> !codecs
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:19] <m_akys> hello, do you know any gnome applet for mail notification?
[01:19] <robotgeek> m_akys: there's a mail notification applet, you need to configure it first
[01:19] <sunshine82> im tryin to follow these instruction but i dont know where gnome-audio-profiles-properties is i did a search in sypatic and found gnome media but i dont knnow what to do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping?highlight=%28CD%29%7C%28RIPPER%29
[01:19] <m_akys> i can't find it
[01:19] <robotgeek> m_akys: System -> Prefs -> Mail Notification
[01:20] <ADjuster> is GNOME using a CORBA-like architecture????
[01:20] <m_akys> I got ubuntu 5.10 and I don't have that mail notification program
[01:21] <robotgeek> m_akys: can you open up synaptic, and install the mail-notification package?
[01:22] <m_akys> I'm installing it
[01:22] <bob_4_an_hour> so at the grub prompt [esc]  E  ; howto boot cdrom device /dev/hdb ?  anyone
[01:22] <robotgeek> m_akys: cool
[01:22] <sven> can someone help me with mplayer?
[01:22] <akonkwa> I have a creative audigy platinum sound card, with a front panel that allows firewire connectivity. Does anyone know wher I can find driver for this?
[01:22] <m_akys> ok, I'm going to cinfigure it
[01:22] <m_akys> thanks
[01:22] <bob_4_an_hour> come on grub ????
[01:22] <goki_> ok...when I do the build from source, it makes some nice amd64 debs in the directory above the one I build in, then an x86_64 package I can't use in the directory I am in
[01:23] <goki_> but the versions in the parent directory are marked as the same version I have installed, so then it nags me to install old version
[01:23] <lord_rob> nobody knows if ubuntu install cd can be used to net-install debian sid ?
[01:23] <robotgeek> sven: is it not there in the repositories?
 im at the patitioner and it says only 8.2 mb free, and 4.3 gb in ntfs partition, in the ntfs about 3 gb is free, but this is saying its full
[01:24] <sven> robotgeek, no, I changed the sources.list through the wiki, alot of multimedia players are available now, but mplayer stays grayed out
[01:24] <bob_4_an_hour> lord_rob it can give you a linux console..... and net access.   so in the linux world yes it can but dont ask me how.....
[01:25] <ibh> what is the best player for : rm , ram files ?  because realplayer is not able to run it :(
[01:25] <robotgeek> sven: did you include backports? mplayer is in multiverse
[01:25] <robotgeek> ibh: unfortunately, those can only be played by realplayer
[01:26] <sven> robotgeek: apt-get works :) thanks anyway
[01:26] <tech_guy_one> is there a guide i can follow to install ubuntu ?
[01:26] <lord_rob> bob_4_an_hour: it's well known that ubuntu installer is a modified version of a recent snapshot of debian installer ...
[01:26] <robotgeek> sven: np
[01:26] <bob_4_an_hour> tech_guy_one :)   free space for a partition and free space on a parition are not the same....
[01:26] <robotgeek> tech_guy_one: yes, there is
[01:26] <bob_4_an_hour> !install
[01:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
 damn, ok, so i use partion magic and make it unallocated space, linux will use that
[01:27] <robotgeek> tech_guy_one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:27] <robotgeek> nm
[01:27] <bob_4_an_hour> yep
 got it, thnx
[01:27] <tech_guy_one> illread it up and come back here
[01:27] <tech_guy_one> if i have questions
[01:27] <robotgeek> tech_guy_one: good luck
thnx
[01:29] <RealOerkel> tag
[01:29] <jozefj> what is breezy and hoary? what do they do?
[01:29] <RealOerkel> german people here??
[01:30] <robotgeek> jozefj: hoary was ubuntu 5.04. breezy is ubuntu v 5.10
[01:30] <bob_4_a_minute> ok someone else can be bob for a while   i'm like gondy, i'm outa here....  done went and all that rah
[01:30] <robotgeek> !de
[01:30] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[01:30] <sven> robotgeek: do you happen to know why the diskmanager keeps loading after I use some programs in Ubuntu, when I use it after a reboot it works.. ( I just reinstalled Ubuntu without solving the issue )
[01:30] <tech_guy_one> is 6 gb enough or do i need to give it more ? im not a hardcore linux user, i just want to learn it...
[01:30] <RealOerkel> @ubotu
[01:30] <RealOerkel> ok
[01:30] <jack-> techguy
[01:30] <jack-> way too much ;p
[01:30] <robotgeek> tech_guy_one: more space is never a problem :)
 hehe...
[01:31] <robotgeek> sven: diskmanager, in windows?
 can i see windows drives in ubuntu and vice-versa ?
[01:31] <sven> robotgeek: no in Ubuntu ofcourse :)  Disks
[01:32] <ubuntu> Hey.. dunno if this is the right place, but I have Mandrake 10 installed on one partition, and I want to remove it to install UBUNTU. But the mandrake thing has added a boot selector in the boot sequence, and I am afraid if I remove the mandrake partition, I will get trouble in my boot, as the sw will be gone. any ideas?
[01:32] <robotgeek> tech_guy_one: ntfs is a problem. AFAIK, write access is still beta
[01:32] <jack-> dont use it
[01:32] <robotgeek> sven: i don't know what disk manager, you mean the ones which put icons on your desktop?
[01:32] <jack-> it will mess up your filesystem
 chuck writing, can i read mp3's that are in my ntfs ?
[01:33] <jozefj> how do i know which ubuntu im wearing? do i need to install breezy or not?
[01:33] <sven> robotgeek: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:33] <ccc_> tech_guy_one: you can read from ntfs w/o problems
 thats good to hear... and can i read the ubuntu FS in xp ?
[01:34] <jack-> jozefj, try "uname -r"
[01:34] <Lord_Athur> hi
[01:34] <adragon> Hey.. dunno if this is the right place, but I have Mandrake 10 installed on one partition, and I want to remove it to install UBUNTU. But the mandrake thing has added a boot selector in the boot sequence, and I am afraid if I remove the mandrake partition, I will get trouble in my boot, as the sw will be gone. any ideas? Please PM me
[01:34] <robotgeek> sven: it keeps running all the time?
[01:35] <jack-> adragon: repetition wont help you here
[01:35] <adragon> jack-: sorry....
[01:35] <sven> robotgeek: yep, it just keeps saying: starting Disks
[01:35] <MistaED> tech_guy_one: what i've done is made the main storage partition on my pc to be ext3 or ext2, and just used www.fs-driver.org so that windows could read/write to it as well
[01:35] <ProN00b> im suposed to have a over 6 gb of data on my ubuntu disk of which only 700mb is in my home dir, how can i find out where the biggest files are ?
[01:36] <jack-> cd / && du -h
[01:36] <jonmasters> du -sh /*
[01:36] <MistaED> it beats FAT32 as you can have files >4gb, that and ext2/3 is superior in it's own right
[01:36] <sunshine82> im gettin this error now ound Juicer could not extract this CD.
[01:36] <sunshine82> Reason: Could not create GStreamer encoders for New MP3 Profile
[01:36] <sunshine82> what does it mean
 so ubuntu can install in ext3 ?
[01:36] <m_akys> I can't select SSL in mail notification. May I need some package?
[01:36] <sunshine82> im usin this instruction  :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping?highlight=%28CD%29%7C%28RIPPER%29
[01:36] <tech_guy_one> and windows can read it using a driver from www.fs-driver.org ?
[01:36] <MistaED> yeah ext3 seems to be ubuntu's default format
[01:37] <jack-> reiserfs > ext3 though
[01:37] <MistaED> yes, but i don't recommend writing to it from windows
[01:37] <jack-> but there's no windows tool yet
[01:37] <MistaED> windows doesn't have a good reiserfs driver yet
[01:37] <fortran01> what does 0xffffff00UL mean as a subnet mask? thanks
[01:37] <MistaED> yea
[01:37] <adragon> guess noone has an answer to me.. well..thanx anyway for your time..
[01:37] <jack-> adragon, just install ubuntu
[01:37] <jonmasters> fortran01: It means /24 or 255.255.255.0
[01:37] <jack-> it does its own grub/lilo setup, no need to worry
[01:38] <jonmasters> fortran01: Or that only the nearest 254 hosts are on the same subnet.
[01:38] <fortran01> jonmasters: is that a hex
 so ill make a 8 gb ext3 partition, install ubuntu in it, and get a driver from the site and i can read ext3 in windows, 'i wint write to it from windows' then im fine ?
[01:38] <jonmasters> fortran01: Yes.
[01:38] <fortran01> jonmasters: what is UL?
[01:39] <jonmasters> Anything beginning 0x is hex. If it says "UL" at the end then that means Unsigned Long, or unsigned 32 bits.
[01:39] <MistaED> tech_guy_one: what i do is have 6gb windows ntfs, 6gb ubuntu ext3 + 1gb swap, then the rest is ext3
[01:39] <fortran01> jonmasters: ahh.thank you so much
[01:39] <adragon> jack-: just let it overwrite the mandrake?.. That should work, you think?= Also in the boot sequece...
[01:39] <MistaED> if you will write to ext3 from windows, know this: unix write permissions will be ignored, and there is no journalising
 ok thanks, im off to install it now...
[01:40] <adragon> jack-: gotta go.. but thanx..
[01:40] <kitsune> Howdy everyone
[01:40] <tech_guy_one> thnaks for ur help guys!
[01:40] <kitsune> Could someone help me out for one minute?
[01:40] <tech_guy_one> ill be back
[01:40] <tech_guy_one> :)
[01:40] <mx-r> hello, I just installed ubuntu 5.10. attached my SATA HDD, under Administration -> Disks it is present but how can I mount it and access files?
[01:40] <robotgeek> kitsune: sure, just state your problem
[01:40] <jim> can someone give me the standard path in command lines. say the app I want to install is on my desktop, what's the command: sudo /??/??
[01:41] <kitsune> Well, I have downloaded teh Install disc, but I can't get it to boot in CD-ROM drive
[01:41] <robotgeek> jim: you install it by generally executing a script, so 'sudo script.sh'
[01:41] <sven> kitsune: you set up the bios so that it will boot from the cd-drive?
[01:41] <kitsune> Yepp, I've done that
[01:41] <robotgeek> jim: sudo ./script.sh
[01:41] <jim> what's the rest of it?
[01:41] <sven> kitsune: does it give an error, does it even try to boot?
[01:42] <robotgeek> jim: what are you trying to install?
[01:42] <jim> real player
[01:42] <kitsune> well, at teh startup, it says: "Boot from CD Drive:.... Failure"
[01:42] <robotgeek> jim: chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:42] <sven> kitsune: dit you try a disc of which you are sure it boots or tried a different drive if available
[01:42] <ProN00b>  /proc is 515M and /usr is 4.6G is that too much ?
[01:42] <jim> can I leave the file on my desktop?
[01:43] <robotgeek> jim: sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin will install it
[01:43] <m_akys> robotgeek: mail-notifications seems not work
[01:43] <robotgeek> m_akys: what issue are you having?
[01:43] <m_akys> I'm triying to check my gmail account
[01:43] <robotgeek> m_akys: hmm, one sexc
[01:44] <HappyFool> ProN00b: /proc is virtual; i wouldn't worry about it
[01:44] <kitsune> Sven: Yeah, I've burned it in 3 different ways: I've tried creating a "data disc", I've tried creating a "bootable disc" and I've loeaded the .iso file in Deamon and then draged all the files and burned thoose
[01:44] <gnomefreak> m_akys,  i know the gmail one doesnt work well never did for me :(
[01:44] <sven> kitsune: you need to open the iso file in Nero, then it recognizes it and burns it bootable
[01:44] <sven> kitsune: do you have a program that burns iso files?
[01:44] <kitsune> how do I open the iso file in Nero?
[01:44] <jfletcher> kitsune: shipit.ubuntu.com ;)
[01:45] <sven> open nero
[01:45] <sven> then choose open file
[01:45] <kitsune> sven: ah, didn't know I could do that
[01:45] <m_akys> ok, i tried to check it through pop3 but i can't select TLS support
[01:45] <sven> kitsune: no problem
[01:45] <robotgeek> m_akys: i am going to check if there is a bug on that
[01:45] <kitsune> jfletcher: hehe, yeah, that has crossed my mind
[01:45] <jfletcher> =] 
[01:45] <jim> when I do chmod it says can't access  ... no file or such directory
[01:45] <lucasvo> my evolution crashes all the time :(
[01:45] <kitsune> sven: okay, thanks alot
[01:45] <HappyFool> ProN00b: my /home is 12G and /usr is 1.9G
[01:45] <jozefj> what does repositiories means?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> kitsune, in nero if you go into the prefferences there is a way to burn iso image
[01:45] <kitsune> I'll try it
[01:45] <leagris> kitsune, when you open the cd, do you see the .iso file or do you see varieus files and dirctories ?
[01:45] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/438598 < whenever I hit the scrollbar evolution crashed
[01:45] <jfletcher> I got like 200 cd's - just hand them around college aswell as having pleanty of spares :)
[01:45] <robotgeek> jim: change to the directory in which you downloaded realplayer
[01:46] <m_akys> robotgeek: thanks
[01:46] <jim> when I do sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin it says no such file or directory
[01:46] <MistaED> jfletcher: i found 20 x86 to be pleanty :P
[01:46] <gnomefreak> !nero
[01:46] <ubotu> gnomefreak: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:47] <jim> robotgeek, that's what I'm trying to figure out, what would be the way to write the path
[01:47] <mx-r> could somebody quick help me? I enabled a partition, created a directory in /mnt where I mount it but cannot access it as a regular user. what permissions do I have to set for /mnt/E for example?
[01:47] <leagris> lucasvo, I'v found Evolution is quite unstable and randomly crash. If you don't need such things as Exchange OSA connector you may have much stability with Thunderbird.
[01:47] <kitsune> Okay, so I should burn it as a CD image?
[01:47] <globalbug> how to add....?  printer jobs icon on desktop
[01:47] <jfletcher> MistaED: I only got about 5 left, people on my computer course love it, just about everyone in my college knows about it now ;) (thats 9000 people)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> leagris,  im glad to see im not the only one that doesnt like evolution :)
[01:48] <atrolinux> Where is the default desktop background found on the ubuntu system?  I'd like to find it in case I want to change it back
[01:48] <lucasvo> leagris: do you know how I can export evolution mails to thunerbird? is there good gpg interface in thunderbird?
[01:48] <sven> kitsune: when you choose open file? it's the button that shows a folder with an arrow pointing out it imediatly gives you the burn screen and you can start burning.
[01:48] <MistaED> jfletcher: whoa, awesome
[01:48] <gnomefreak> atrolinux,  if you have ubuntu you have it in desktop backgrounds
[01:48] <atrolinux> gnomefreak, where is that?
[01:48] <sven> kitsune: second button from the left in Nero
[01:48] <robotgeek> lucasvo: gpg interface is good in both.
[01:49] <jfletcher> MistaED: was gonna just issue all my computers with it, coz them cases look nice + professional compared to a burnt CD -- coz all my computers I build come with linux,, dont provide them to newbs ;] 
[01:49] <gnomefreak> atrolinux,  right click desktop and click change background
[01:49] <kitsune> sven: yeah, in Nero, I chosed "open file", selected the ubunto install iso, then a dialog poped up with some options saying "CD image" is this correct?
[01:49] <robotgeek> lucasvo: there are some scripts which convert from evolution to thunderbird, ask uncle google
[01:49] <jfletcher> kitsune:  yeeee bro
[01:49] <lucasvo> robotgeek: ok
[01:49] <jfletcher> sounds right, never used nero though
[01:49] <leagris> lucasvo, I didn not look at importing evolution mails to thunderbird thoug you may search the web and find it. As for gpg inegration to thunderbird that is called enigmail and is fully integrated. Even support gpgmime messages where gpg signature and content are provided as mime parts instead of the old embeded separator trick.
[01:50] <kitsune> jfletcher, okay, then I'll be right off Burning
[01:50] <kitsune> Thank you guys!
[01:50] <jfletcher> kitsune: you can sue me for the 50 pence your CD cost if it goes wrong ;)
[01:50] <gnomefreak> just change the settings its so much easier i just wish i still had the wiki on it
[01:50] <atrolinux> gnomefreak, thanks, but sadly it's not actually what I needed.  I'm needing the path to it, so I can set it in a shell script if my database of random images is down, etc.  I was just trying to make the question easier to understand ;)  Do you know the path to it?
[01:51] <ccc_> mx-r: try: chmod 777 /mnt/E/
[01:51] <kitsune> jfletcher: hehe, okay, I'll remember that
[01:51] <MistaED> jfletcher: i'm a small-time converter, but when i convert, i have them all pre-packaged with codecs, bunch of themes, fonts, etc. so it can do just about anything
[01:51] <gnomefreak> atrolinux, sorry man i dont
[01:51] <mx-r> ccc_, still permission denied. I guess it could be something that has to do with groups because user is root and group is root
[01:51] <MistaED> i just need to make an end-all dvd with all the right .debs and other files on it, for the dial-up users :)
[01:52] <jfletcher> MistaED: Yeh, I used to do that with Gentoo, make a rar instead of fucking around with that shitty 30 hour install
[01:52] <sven> kitsune: yep, go ahead and burn it :)
[01:52] <Astxist> ebil dial up
[01:52] <robotgeek> m_akys: there is a bug filed for gmail. it's fixed in the source, but it's yet to make it's way to the repos
[01:52] <jfletcher> did mean I had the same shiit motherboard for like 3 years
[01:53] <gnomefreak> i remember installing gentoo i dont think i will ever forget that :(
[01:53] <m_akys> robotgeek: ok, but why i can't select SSL/TLS for a pop account?
[01:53] <atrolinux> anybody else know the path to desktop backgrounds?
[01:53] <m_akys> a just install openssl
[01:53] <mx-r> ccc_, well, I can access it under Disks via enabling and then click on browse but I want to give access to all users not only to sudo
[01:53] <Astxist> I remember printing the install guide for gentoo I don't think my printer will ever forget that
[01:54] <m_akys> robotgeek: maybe I must reboot
[01:54] <robotgeek> m_akys: no, even i can't choose
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Astinus, lol i had to pcs in same room so i didnt have to do that :)
[01:54] <dpupp>  where do i see system uptime ?
[01:54] <m_akys> robotgeek: I think that we need an optional library
[01:54] <robotgeek> m_akys: checking
[01:55] <Astxist> dpupp, open the terminal and type 'uptime'
[01:55] <lucaas> does anyone know if theres a good video editing software for linux?
[01:55] <HappyFool> type 'uptime' in a terminal
[01:55] <gnomefreak> if that is the command for that im soooooooooo goona hurt myself :(
[01:56] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrrr and i couldnt remember that :( brb not enough coffee i guess
[01:56] <m_akys> robotgeek: do you have openssl installed?
[01:56] <robotgeek> m_akys: SSL was disabled because of a license issue, it should be solved soon
[01:56] <Astxist> lol
[01:56] <robotgeek> m_akys: it doesn't matter, as it was compiled without ssl support
[01:56] <m_akys> robotgeek: ok
[01:57] <m_akys> robotgeek: and another mail notification that supports gmail? :)
[01:57] <robotgeek> m_akys: lemme check
[01:57] <xerophyte> i am testing my Ubuntu in the vmware .. when i first installed i setup the screen resolutio to really big .. now i need to scroll the vmscreen  .. how can i reset the screen resolution to decent value
[01:57] <robotgeek> m_akys: sudo apt-get install gmail-notify
[01:58] <m_akys> robotgeek: but is it integrated with gnome?
[01:58] <m_akys> robotgeek: i'm installing
[01:59] <robotgeek> m_akys: apparently, yes
[01:59] <m_akys> robotgeek: cool
[02:00] <robotgeek> m_akys: http://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/screenshots/screenshot02.jpg
[02:00] <m_akys> robotgeek: works well
[02:00] <robotgeek> m_akys: good for you :)
[02:00] <m_akys> robotgeek: thanks a lot
[02:00] <robotgeek> m_akys: no problem, glad to help
[02:00] <gnomefreak> robotgeek, thats the one that i cant get to work on ubuntu :(
[02:01] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: what?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> it keeps giving me a log-in failure
[02:01] <gnomefreak> and it doesnt go away :(
[02:01] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: mail notification/gmail notify?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> yes robotgeek
[02:01] <jozefj> help, i cannot install vlc. it said that i have to change some preference in the repositories , a lot of line saying depends:  liba52-0.7.4  but it is not installable.. what is it?
[02:02] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: which one of the two?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> theres 2?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> robotgeek, the one in synaptic i get and give it my gmail address and password and it cant it gives me failed to login and it just keeps going hard as hell to get it to stop :(
[02:03] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: try using gmail-notify then, the newer version of mail-notification works well
[02:04] <gnomefreak> robotgeek, ok i will grab it now and see
[02:05] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: cool
[02:07] <gnomefreak> robotgeek,  under user name do i put just everything before @gmail.com? or the whole address?
[02:07] <PQ47> Hi
[02:07] <soci0path> how do I get a list of frequently used programs to show up in the menu?
[02:07] <sven> robotgeek: do you know how I can setup the tv-out that it fits the screen? Because I don't know its horizontal and vertical refresh rates.
[02:07] <sven> robotgeek: I have installed the ati drivers
[02:08] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: without
[02:09] <robotgeek> sven: i am not sure, i've not done it
[02:09] <gnomefreak> one more question robotgeek can i add the other gmail addresses i have?
[02:09] <sven> robotgeek: well it sucks :)  cannot find anything on the internet aswell
[02:09] <gnomefreak> btw :) itr works
[02:09] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: i am not sure about that, sorry
[02:09] <sabmann> when I try to run totem I get an error: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[02:10] <SatanG> hi, why wasnt i asked to make a root password during the installation?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> robotgeek,  its ok  thanks man :)
[02:10] <sven> can anyone help me with setting up the tv-out with ATi drivers?  I can't find the right values for the tv...
[02:10] <sabmann> but i'm definitely not using any totem isntances
[02:10] <timmow> hi does anyone know how to enable web management of cups?
[02:10] <sabmann> *instances
[02:10] <gnomefreak> SatanG, "root" password is user password you use sudo not su
[02:10] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell SatanG about sudo
[02:11] <xerophyte> how do you change the default screen resolution ?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell SatanG  about root
[02:11] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:11] <robotgeek> xerophyte: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg'
[02:12] <sabmann> xerophyte, or try  system>preferences>screen resolution
[02:12] <SatanG> ok, thanks
[02:13] <madness> hi, can anyone tell me how I might change the sensitivity of my trackpad to clicks when I press down on it to move the mouse cursor (or turn off that functionality full stop)
[02:13] <xerophyte> robotgeek, does that works with xorg.conf just wondering
[02:13] <madness> (and more importantly, will anyone)
[02:13] <madness> :P
[02:13] <robotgeek> xerophyte: yes, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <timmow> madness: It involves changing properties of the synaptics driver
[02:14] <timmow> madness: is that enabled in your xorg.conf?
[02:14] <xerophyte> robotgeek, can i simpley edit that file if so what am i trying to edit there current resolution is 1856x1392 i wanna change to 1024x768 because my VMware screen is small
[02:14] <madness> timmow: checking now.
[02:15] <mustard5> anyone had any issues with xorg after the latest kernel updates?
[02:15] <mustard5> just curious as something went totally wacky on ubuntu install today
[02:15] <madness> timmow: yes - I'll check docs for that before asking further. thanks.
[02:16] <aquiles> hello
[02:16] <gnomefreak> mustard5,  nope but you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to fix it
[02:16] <timmow> madness: I remember you need an option to enable shmconfig I think
[02:16] <robotgeek> xerophyte: sure you can :)
[02:16] <lucas_> hi
[02:16] <aquiles> anyone can help me to set up my wireless conection?
[02:17] <timmow> madness: then you can use a program called synclient to dynamically change the touchpad options, until you find something you like then you can add it to xorg.conf
[02:17] <feugan3333> Hi all. Anyone know a command that I can use to rename a lot of directories containing whitespace to names not containg whitespace?
[02:17] <lucky_lucas> is there a p2p programm like kazaa for ubuntu?
[02:17] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I would have thought so too, but when I did that, switching to vesa drivers, I was still in trouble.  I had to boot up in 386 kernel, instead of K7, and that seems to have fixed it.  I'm now deciding whether I want to tackle getting nividia-glx working again. :)
[02:18] <timmow> aquiles: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[02:18] <welp> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog!!!
[02:18] <timmow> feugan: sounds like a perl thing :)
[02:18] <aquiles> ok, thank you
[02:18] <welp> sorry....
[02:19] <gnomefreak> mustard5, sorry i didnt knwo you were using a k7 :(
[02:19] <madness> timmow: thanks.  looks sane, I'll try it later.
[02:19] <gnomefreak> !k7
[02:19] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[02:19] <mustard5> gnomefreak, thats ok. It should all work the same.
[02:20] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I mystified as to what went wrong.
[02:20] <timmow> feugan3333: http://www.pigstye.net/article.php/20021122075650404
[02:20] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I'll try reinstalling nvidia-glx and see if I can get it all working again.
[02:20] <SatanG> hmm, why isnt there a "Run application" under Applications?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> mustard5, i assuming you compiled the k7 kernel since it wasnt an option that im aware of for the i386 update
[02:21] <mustard5> SatanG, alt + f2 in breezy
[02:21] <feugan3333> timmov: I think your right, There is the rename command which is perl.
[02:21] <feugan3333> timmov: Hey thanks
[02:21] <mustard5> gnomefreak, k7 kernel is available through synaptic package manager
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh oops mustard5  thank you
[02:21] <lucky_lucas> can someone give me the name of a filesharing programm under ubuntu
[02:21] <mustard5> gnomefreak, its cool ;)
[02:21] <lucky_lucas> please
[02:22] <robotgeek> lucky_lucas: gtk-gnutella
[02:22] <lucky_lucas> i dont find it
[02:22] <mustard5> lucky_lucas, you may need to enable extra repositories then
[02:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell lucky_lucas about repos
[02:22] <lucky_lucas> ok
[02:22] <mustard5> heh
[02:23] <blendor> Bonjout
[02:23] <gnomefreak> good luck mustard5
[02:24] <blendor> Est-ce que qqn  pas une petite ide d'un projet sous linux libre et utile (mais ne touchant pas le multimdia) que je pourrais raliser ?
[02:24] <blendor> J'ai vraiment pas d'ide
[02:24] <blendor> mais je sais qu'il en faut surement ...
[02:24] <robotgeek> !fr
[02:24] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:25] <blendor> ubotu, sorry
[02:25] <ubotu> blendor: Are you smoking crack?
[02:25] <blendor> i have forget
[02:25] <blendor> no ;-)
[02:25] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell blendor about u
[02:25] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell blendor about ubotu
[02:25] <mustard5> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:25] <jack-> ubotu: die
[02:25] <ubotu> jack-: Are you smoking crack?
[02:26] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell jack- about botabuse
[02:26] <jack-> :~
[02:27] <feugan3333> ubotu: MAXIMIZE!
[02:27] <ubotu> feugan3333: No idea
[02:27] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi
[02:27] <robotgeek> feugan3333: ubotu is a bot. please don't abuse him
[02:28] <Gorth-> ubotu: tell me about sources
[02:28] <jack-> ubotu: tell robotgeek about robotgeek
[02:28] <FJ_Sanchez> I have a lot of files with a similar filename NAMEsomethingXXXXX.xxx and I would like the something part, how can I do this?
[02:28] <FJ_Sanchez> This part is the same in all files
[02:29] <feugan3333> robotgeek: I though maybe he was related to the robots on BeastWars.
[02:30] <timmow> FJ_Sanchez: what do you want to do with the something part, and what is the same in all files?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu knows about robotgeek?
[02:30] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I don't know
[02:30] <SatanG> why do i get:
[02:30] <SatanG> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary -i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SatanG,  the us repos are down use de
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> SatanG: it's a regular thing
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> the us mirrors suxor
[02:31] <SatanG> how do i change the mirrors?
[02:31] <FJ_Sanchez> For example: FileWindows1.txt FileWindows2.txt, I want delete the Windows in all files
[02:31] <FJ_Sanchez> I think awk and sed could be the solution, but I cannot use it
[02:31] <jack-> ubotu: tell gnomefreak about robotgeek
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SatanG, if you go into your sources list and change the us to de it will fix the issue
[02:31] <SatanG> ah, thx :)
[02:31] <gnomefreak> omg :)
[02:31] <timmow> FJ_Sanchez: perl will do it
[02:32] <jack-> ;)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> teaching bots bad habits
[02:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:32] <jack-> not really :)
[02:32] <Ugel> I'm trying to play a DVD and Totem says "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" However, the closest thing to libdvdcss I can find (libdvdread3) is already installed.
[02:32] <timmow> FJ_Sanchez: http://www.evolt.org/article/Renaming_Files_with_Perl/17/351/
[02:32] <FJ_Sanchez> ...
[02:32] <robotgeek> jack-: very clever, but i would imagine you would be that way too after 14+ hours at the term
[02:33] <FJ_Sanchez> Okey, thank you
[02:33] <jack-> no offense, robotgeek ;)
[02:33] <timmow> FJ_Sanchez: then use the regex s/Windows//g
[02:33] <jack-> but i guess i wouldnt even be chatting then
[02:33] <robotgeek> Ugel: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:34] <FJ_Sanchez> Oh I see
[02:34] <FJ_Sanchez> Thankyou
[02:35] <Ugel> robotgeek: Didn't seem to work
[02:35] <SatanG> sorry, but where do i change the serverlists?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> SatanG, 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:35] <Ugel> robotgeek: Same error message
[02:36] <robotgeek> Ugel: all i can do is point you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell SatanG about sources
[02:36] <robotgeek> jack-: i take the hint, i'm leaving :)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Ugel about restricteds
[02:37] <gnomefreak> damn s
[02:37] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: it's the same page :)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[02:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:37] <robotgeek> later folks
[02:37] <Ugel> Well, that's what I did and it didn't fix the problem
[02:39] <FJ_Sanchez> timmow, it doesn't work....
[02:40] <jay> anyone know how to tell amarok where to put my podcast
[02:40] <jay> s
[02:40] <Balduran> hello
[02:41] <melonipoika> hi, anyone can tell me a link to download automatix for ubuntu 5.10?
[02:41] <Balduran> i have a problem with my network at home... here is a little picture which describes my situation, the only thing that changed is that i have no installed ubuntu on the desktop pc : http://balduran.de/images2/room.jpg
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> melonipoika, use of automatix is not encouraged
[02:42] <melonipoika> ok, i have used it before and i think it works prety well... any sugesting insted of it?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> installing individual apps would be the better choice
[02:42] <Talisker> excuse me
[02:42] <FJ_Sanchez> Okey, timmow I used the rename tool that comes with GNU/Linux distros
[02:42] <FJ_Sanchez> Thanks ;)
[02:42] <Talisker> a friend of mine asked me to ask you to unban him
[02:42] <Balduran> 3 month ago i had a script which done some commands and then all signals from the TP card gone to the BNC card
[02:43] <Talisker> you see, he's another innocent victim of your sporadic random banning system
[02:43] <melonipoika> yes.. but it is harder and i had some problems installing skype and so on..
[02:43] <azure> hello there
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> melonipoika, we can't force you not to use it of course ... its your choice .. but it installs things that user may not may not want automatically ...
[02:43] <Talisker> since he's Israeli, if you'll not releas him at once we'll declare you all antisemites
[02:43] <Talisker> err...actually we won't, but plz unban him
[02:43] <Talisker> his nickname is H0lyd4wg
[02:44] <Earthpig> maybe we are? :)
[02:44] <azure> i need some help i have ubuntu 5.10 with Open office 2.0 ....... oo doesnot open for me it shuts down
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> Talisker, i don't remember ops banning people for fun ....
[02:44] <melonipoika> ok, but do you know the link? i asume the risk :)
[02:44] <ke> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:44] <crimsun> Talisker: why was he banned?
[02:44] <Talisker> I did'nt say ops ban people for fun
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> !automatix
[02:44] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, an application that automatically installs many popular programs, particularly the proprietary formats that don't ship with most distros by default. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[02:44] <Talisker> it just that sometimes people get randomly banned
[02:44] <melonipoika> thanks
[02:44] <Talisker> It happened to me once as well
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> np melonipoika :P
[02:44] <Talisker> one shiny morning I just could'nt enter this chan
[02:45] <sdakota> hello
[02:45] <azure> could any one help me
[02:45] <Delvien> anyone know where the lid.sh file is stored?
[02:45] <melonipoika> sorry, i tryed that one and it dosn't run, it is saying that it is for breezy and wont run in horay... but i just installed 5.10!
[02:45] <sdakota> in ubuntu installation, when i get a question for ip, i need to fill in network ip -- but how to tell ubuntu that the public ip has to be something else ?
[02:45] <crimsun> Delvien: /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[02:45] <jay> anyone know how to tell amarok where to put my podcast
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> melonipoika, you got breezy ? try cat /etc/issue ...
[02:46] <melonipoika> sorry?
[02:46] <Delvien> thanks
[02:46] <Talisker> so, if anyone could please unban the guy
[02:46] <melonipoika> i ma newbie in linux, how do i try it?
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> melonipoika, run it in terminal and see the output
[02:46] <crimsun> Talisker: that's so utterly vague
[02:46] <azure>  i need some help i have ubuntu 5.10 with Open office 2.0 ....... oo doesnot open for me it shuts down after i click it
[02:46] <sdakota> in ubuntu installation, when i get a question for ip, i need to fill in network ip -- but how to tell ubuntu that the public ip has to be something else ?
[02:46] <melonipoika> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> melonipoika, then the script is screwed
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:47] <Talisker> crimsun, it's not me to blame
[02:47] <Alex[RM-UK] > Hey
[02:47] <Talisker> There's something fscked up with your bots
[02:47] <gnomefreak> azure, sounds like it is crashing other than uninstalling it and reinstallling it i dont know a way to fix it
[02:47] <crimsun> the bots don't do any banning.
[02:47] <Alex[RM-UK] > Is there a different file browser than Konquer?
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ... the bot can't ban
[02:48] <Talisker> so I don't know what's messed up
[02:48] <Talisker> but it does happen
[02:48] <crimsun> the ops don't ban randomly
[02:48] <melonipoika> ok, so then i should install everything manually i guess...
[02:48] <sdakota> Alex[RM-UK] , Yes, Firefox for example, www.getfirefox.com
[02:48] <Talisker> he was'nt banned for doing anything
[02:48] <SatanG> dont find other serverlists than us, what does the german look like?
[02:48] <crimsun> if it's in place, it's there for a good reason
[02:48] <Alex[RM-UK] > file browser, not tinternet
[02:48] <sdakota> in ubuntu installation, when i get a question for ip, i need to fill in network ip -- but how to tell ubuntu that the public ip has to be something else ?
[02:48] <Talisker> he was in base [he's a soldier]  for two weeks, and when he got home he was banned
[02:48] <sdakota> Alex[RM-UK] , Dunno about that
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> melonipoika, i strongly suggest it :P
[02:48] <grogoreo> hi
[02:48] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[02:48] <gnomefreak> SatanG, use de i think its denmark
[02:49] <Talisker> man, don't gimme that, that channel has a history of improper banning
[02:49] <crimsun> Talisker: all this does nothing to actually say what hostmask was actually banned.
[02:49] <Delvien> anyone know how to run the command sudo dpms off when i close the lid of my laptop? xset dpms force off does not work
[02:49] <gnomefreak> SatanG, the reason i say use de is i am using it so i know it works
[02:49] <jfletcher> Does anybody know the package name of the mp3 id3 tag development lib?
[02:49] <grogoreo> could someone please give me the command for reconfiguring the xserver on breezy?
[02:49] <Talisker> [H0lyD4wg]  (n=fakename@bzq-218-240-214.red.bezeqint.net): constructor-dude
[02:49] <SatanG> like deb http://archive.ubuntu.de/ubuntu breezy main restricted?
[02:49] <jfletcher> grogoreo: just edit xorg.conf
[02:49] <crimsun> grogoreo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:50] <jfletcher> Does anybody know the package name of the mp3 id3 tag development lib?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:50] <grogoreo> jfletcher, I've replaced it with a faultly config
[02:50] <sdakota> in ubuntu installation, when i get a question for ip, i need to fill in network ip -- but how to tell ubuntu that the public ip has to be something else ?
[02:50] <grogoreo> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:50] <gnomefreak> grogoreo,  your welcome
[02:50] <jfletcher> grogoreo: ah, then use crimsun + gnomefreak's ways
[02:50] <Balduran> i have a problem with my network at home... here is a little picture which describes my situation, the only thing that changed is that i have no installed ubuntu on the desktop pc : http://balduran.de/images2/room.jpg
[02:50] <jfletcher> Does anybody know the package name of the mp3 id3 tag development lib?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> grogoreo, btw .. that command is in that xorg.conf ... read the comments on the top of the file
[02:51] <grogoreo> crimsu, thanks as well
[02:51] <vbhanu> I have two users vbhanu and vbhanu1 belonging to group1 and group2 groups,
[02:51] <vbhanu> now i want to make a file accessible to both of them
[02:51] <vbhanu> but i cannot add vbhanu to group2 or vbanu1 to group2
[02:51] <Talisker> crimsun, it's n=fakename@bzq-218-240-214.red.bezeqint.net
[02:51] <crimsun> jfletcher: libid3-3.8.3-dev
[02:51] <vbhanu>  how do i do that
[02:51] <jfletcher> crimsun: thanks alot mate.
[02:51] <SatanG> gnomefreak, W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.de breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.de_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:52] <vbhanu> sorry got to go, will be back in a short time, ignore/leave a message for the messages above
[02:52] <gnomefreak> SatanG,  why is the de in the middle it should be where the us was just take us out and put de in its place
[02:52] <gnomefreak> SatanG,  hold on i will paste mine in pastebin so you can see it
[02:53] <Alex[RM-UK] > For GTK2 support and configuration tools:
[02:53] <Alex[RM-UK] > - GTK2 2.2 or later
[02:53] <Alex[RM-UK] > what packe do I need for this?
[02:53] <Alex[RM-UK] > package*
[02:53] <grogoreo> hmm, for some reason know Gnome is buggered up! It is not rendering anything right
[02:53] <crimsun> Talisker: something more descriptive than 'fakename' for an ident would be helpful
[02:53] <sdakota> Alex[RM-UK] , aptitude search gtk2
[02:53] <Talisker> that's what /whois gives me
[02:53] <sdakota> in ubuntu installation, when i get a question for ip, i need to fill in network ip -- but how to tell ubuntu that the public ip has to be something else ?
[02:54] <Alex[RM-UK] > sdakota, thanks
[02:54] <gnomefreak> oh well guess he didnt need it :(
[02:55] <Alex[RM-UK] > hey, what is AutoConf ?
[02:55] <Alex[RM-UK] > and AutoMake?
[02:55] <Talisker> H0lyD4wg, I guess now would be a good time to tell crimsun about your ban and how you got it, for some reason he's under the impression that all bans are just and no mistakes are made
[02:55] <Alex[RM-UK] > will they insatll aa progam for you?
[02:56] <sdakota> Alex[RM-UK] , They will try to guess how to configure/install a program based on hardware and some settings
[02:56] <H0lyD4wg> i don't know how i got this ban. it's been a long time since the last time i been here
[02:56] <Alex[RM-UK] > ah cool
[02:56] <crimsun> H0lyD4wg: your IP falls under a spambot netmask. There's nothing that can be done about that.
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> Alex[RM-UK] , those are dev tools .... pls google them ... no they won't install programms ... apt-get or synaptic or dpkg will install apps for you
[02:56] <Talisker> hehe, bot's don't ban, huh?
[02:56] <crimsun> Talisker: every single ban in this channel is set by a living person.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> Talisker,  ubotu can not ban anyone :)
[02:57] <Talisker> but you do use a spambot to screen ranges of IP's
[02:57] <Alex[RM-UK] > whats that Copy Dump website? whre I can copy text to for you lot to read an error
[02:57] <_TomB> What does it mean when apt says "The following packages have been kept back:"
[02:57] <crimsun> Talisker: no, there are spambots that join and part this channel.
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> Talisker, we do NOT use spambots ... :P
[02:58] <Talisker> anyway, if it's a knowen issue, you should check first and argue later, that is all
[02:58] <Talisker> C'ya
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> he should be banned ..
[02:58] <Alex[RM-UK] > whats that Kubuntu Copy Dump website? so I can copy error's for you to read and help me?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[02:58] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:59] <Alex[RM-UK] > thanks,
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> no problemo
[02:59] <Alex[RM-UK] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5083
[02:59] <melonipoika> hi, i'm having problems when isntalling multimedia support...
[03:00] <Alex[RM-UK] > can someone help me fix this error? It wont do Make
[03:00] <melonipoika> when i do " sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg"
[03:00] <melonipoika> i get the error that can't find pakkage gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:00] <melonipoika> i have universe and multiverse repositories
[03:01] <coz> hello all
[03:01] <coz>  have any of you tried CrossOver office?
[03:01] <Astxist> melonipoika, try sudo apt-get update
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> coz, yes i have
[03:01] <coz> WOW what do you think?
[03:01] <melonipoika> ok
[03:01] <Astxist> melonipoika, then try again
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> coz, what i think ? well ... i don't use photoshop .. so no use to me
[03:02] <Alex[RM-UK] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5083 < ---- can someone help me, I get this error when I do Make
[03:02] <coz> wickedpuppy did you try MS office install?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> Alex[RM-UK] , what are you trying to compile ?
[03:02] <Alex[RM-UK] > Erm...metatheme
[03:02] <melonipoika> the same error...
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> coz, yes ... it does install well ... unless you try latest and greatest
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:02] <Astxist> melonipoika, try apt-cache search gstreamer
[03:03] <Astxist> melonipoika, see if it's actually in the list
[03:04] <melonipoika> no, it is not..
[03:04] <Alex[RM-UK] > wickedpuppy, any idea?
[03:04] <no> what???????
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> Alex[RM-UK] , no ... i can't see the page ... my connection is max out ... shared broadband .. lol
[03:04] <Alex[RM-UK] > ahhhh,
[03:05] <melonipoika> no, sorry, i'm saying that it is not, i didn't wanted to talkt to you :)
[03:05] <Alex[RM-UK] > Can anyone help me with me error? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5083
[03:05] <Astxist> melonipoika, maybe you're after gstreamer0.8-plugins?
[03:05] <melonipoika> i'm trying to follow the installing software howto in the ubuntu wiki
[03:06] <melonipoika> i want the plugins to play mp3 and so on
[03:06] <LjL> !tell melonipoika about restrictedformats
[03:06] <H0lyD4wg> any idea why the newly-installed font isn't usable even after "xset fp rehash", stopping gdm, starting gdm, and even rebooting?
[03:07] <LjL> H0lyD4wg: a wild guess, but perhaps you should run defoma?
[03:07] <Alex[RM-UK] > Anyone? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5083 :(
[03:07] <melonipoika> LjL, doing that is where i get my errors... any idea?
[03:07] <LjL> melonipoika: unless i see the errors, no
[03:07] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : that's a strange error. try running make under auto-apt
[03:08] <LjL> !tell Alex[RM-UK]  about autoapt
[03:08] <LjL> !tell Alex[RM-UK]  about auto-apt
[03:08] <melonipoika> LjL, it is not possible to find the pakage "gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"
[03:08] <LjL> melonipoika: then you don't have the multiverse repository enabled, you should add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <robotgeek> melonipoika: if you are trying to use automatix, it probably screws up cause u have the words hoary in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <Astxist> melonipoika, gedit /etc/apt/sources/list and check if it's there
[03:09] <H0lyD4wg> LjL, i'm trying it now, but shouldn't the font be made available after i installed it?
[03:09] <Astxist> *gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[03:09] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, I just installed Auto-Apt, so how do I use it to do make?
[03:09] <robotgeek> melonipoika: though, since it enables the root account, i would not recommend it
[03:09] <LjL> H0lyD4wg: haven't the slightest idea, honestly. when i installed the MS fonts (yeah, i did) using the official package, they were set-up automatically
[03:09] <Astxist> melonipoika, you'll need sudo to change if of course
[03:10] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : first thing, you should run "sudo auto-apt update", which will take a while
[03:10] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : when that's finished, "auto-apt run make" inside your source directory
[03:10] <tux-rox> Anyone know a good program that extracts songs from an iPod and on to the hard drive?
[03:10] <sdakota> Alex[RM-UK] , Why do you want to use auto-apt
[03:10] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : that should prompt you about any missing packages that your make is requiring
[03:10] <Alex[RM-UK] > sdakota, I don't kno
[03:11] <sdakota> Alex[RM-UK] , Apt-get is automatically too
[03:11] <H0lyD4wg> LjL, well, defoma-reconfigure finished running and "vga" still isn't available.
[03:11] <robotgeek> melonipoika: enabling root account will kill all the gui admin tools
[03:11] <LjL> sdakota: uh?
[03:11] <sdakota> in ubuntu installation, when i get a question for ip, i need to fill in network ip -- but how to tell ubuntu that the public ip has to be something else ?
[03:11] <Kzar[dot] net> Hi folks
[03:11] <goki_> is the eclipse jdt package broken?
[03:11] <candlelight> just now I installed some updates to ubuntu, a message told me to reboot the system -- I thought linux doesn't need a reboot for update?
[03:11] <Kzar[dot] net> Anyone has MIDI sound support with an I810 Intel chipset ?
[03:11] <sdakota> LjL / Alex[RM-UK] , apt-get can do things automatically too, you don't need to use auto-apt for that.... >.<
[03:11] <Kzar[dot] net> Cause I don't...
[03:11] <LjL> candlelight: usually, it doesn't. it may sometimes
[03:12] <sdakota> I gtg, bye
[03:12] <LjL> sdakota: what can it do automatically?
[03:12] <LjL> bau
[03:12] <LjL> bah
[03:12] <robotgeek> melonipoika: you here?
[03:12] <bluefoxicy> I question just why on my laptop the screen saver comes on while i'm typing
[03:13] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, It came up with exactly the same error
[03:13] <Alex[RM-UK] > god damm I hate how linux installs programs
[03:13] <melonipoika> yes
[03:13] <melonipoika> sorry
[03:13] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : and it didn't ask for any package?
[03:13] <Alex[RM-UK] > so complicated ><
[03:13] <Alex[RM-UK] > ermmmm
[03:13] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : that's *not* how linux installs programs
[03:13] <robotgeek> melonipoika: if you are new to linux, i would not recommend enabling the root account
[03:13] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : programs are supposed to be installed from packages, if you *decide* to install programs from source, you can't blame ubuntu ;)
[03:13] <melonipoika> ok
[03:14] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : anyway, give me the URL to that tarball you're trying to compile, i'll try here
[03:14] <melonipoika> so what is the problem with automatix then?
[03:14] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, no, didn't ask for packages
[03:14] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, lol, let me find it. I downloaded it a while ago and forgot about it
[03:14] <AlinuxOS> hello :) how can I fix a package to don't upgrade?
[03:14] <AlinuxOS> exclude from upgrading I mean.
[03:14] <candlelight> LjL, what kind of updates will need a reboot? I'm learning to use ubuntu as a server, hopefully no downtime.
[03:15] <Zho> anybody know how to make ubuntu support the non-unicode character? my xmms display the character incorrectly...
[03:15] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13010
[03:15] <LjL> candlelight: usually, you're asked to reboot when a new version of the C standard library is installed, or things like that.
[03:15] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, the first one in the screenshot is the one im after, it's all included in that one MeteaTheme. looks well nice!
[03:15] <goki_> ah never mind, eclipse is trying to run under gcj
[03:16] <melonipoika> actually, ins synaptic almost all my repositories are for ubunty 5.04, is this normal? (i'm running 5.10)
[03:16] <robotgeek> melonipoika: does it say breezy?
[03:17] <melonipoika> no, horay
[03:17] <AlinuxOS> hello :) how can I fix a package to don't upgrade? exclude from upgrading I mean.
[03:17] <Zho> !tell Zho about unicode
[03:18] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : it compiled file for me
[03:18] <LjL> s/file/fine
[03:18] <Delvien>  Anyone know what exact scrpit is run when the lid of a laptop is opened?
[03:18] <melonipoika> if i choose edit in repositories, i can see this url: http://www.bunkus.org/ubuntu/hoary/
[03:19] <melonipoika> should i choose other one for brezy
[03:19] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL,  just my bloody luck. I can never get *anything* to run on Linux ><
[03:19] <melonipoika> ?
[03:19] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : have you tried "make distclean; ./configure; make", just to be sure?
[03:19] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell melonipoika about sources
[03:19] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL,  i'll try now
[03:20] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, !!!!!
[03:20] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, it worked...sort of!
[03:20] <gnomefreak> lol@sort of
[03:20] <Alex[RM-UK] > with a few errors, let me paste bin it lol
[03:20] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : err, did you do "./configure" last time before you compiled? :)
[03:21] <Alex[RM-UK] > yes :P
[03:21] <stratovarius> guys I need help to configure samba.I've already read lotta how too but I 've always the same problem. pc with win sees my pc with linux but it doesnt see my shared folders.who can help me?
[03:22] <melonipoika> ok, thanks, i change the source.list file, i hope it will work now
[03:22] <crimsun> sigh, they're getting more creative.
[03:22] <LjL> crimsun: using real-looking nicknames, you maen?
[03:22] <stratovarius> here is my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5084
[03:23] <gnomefreak> i didnt see any bots :(
[03:23] <crimsun> LjL: and idents and hostmasks.
[03:23] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5087
[03:23] <sandis> HI! Every time I try to mount my floppy drive, a mount error comes up: Unable to mount selected volume. Error: Given UDI is not mountable volume. Is something wrong with my floppy drive?
[03:23] <sandis> And what is UDI?
[03:23] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : but, man, that's actually the same error as before ;)
[03:24] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, the other error had more,
[03:24] <melonipoika> ! automatix
[03:24] <ubotu> [automatix]  an application that automatically installs many popular programs, particularly the proprietary formats that don't ship with most distros by default. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[03:24] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, what does this line mean:libtool: link: cannot find the library `'
[03:24] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : look, if you want, i can just send you the whole compiled tarball
[03:24] <Alex[RM-UK] > that would be exelent
[03:24] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : i haven't a clue
[03:25] <Aradorn> hrm... stupid box just rebooted into 640x480 reso
[03:25] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, what do I do with the tatball afterwards...god im such a noob
[03:25] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : "sudo checkinstall" (install checkinstall first) should do it
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Alex[RM-UK] , ive been using linux for 8months or longer and still havent compiles a tar yet and dont have a clue how
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:26] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : can you give me an email address that accepts files around one and a half megabytes?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> gmail :)
[03:26] <bDerrly> i just upgraded to dapper and cannot startx (error loading keyboard and mouse driver), anyone run into this?
[03:26] <bDerrly> i take that back, i've been using dapper and just did an apt-get upgrade
[03:26] <LjL> gnomefreak: i was asking about an address *he has* :)
[03:27] <SatanG> gnomefreak, thx, it worked :)   where did i read about sudo that ubuto sent me?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> bDerrly, dapper is too new not many people are using it because of that reason also thats why the /topic refers to dapper users
[03:27] <ClayG> anyone know a good mp3 search site?
[03:27] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL, ... sudo checkinstall, just did it but what does it do?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell SatanG  about sudo
[03:28] <candlelight> hi, i tried to remove "finger" from ubuntu, then it says it'll need to remove acpi-support, gnome-nettool, powermanagement-interface and ubuntu-desktop, why?
[03:28] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : err, you shouldn't have done it now, as you *do not* have the program currently compiled right now...
[03:28] <gnomefreak> SatanG, anytime here to help :)
[03:28] <Alex[RM-UK] > LjL,  Ahh yes
[03:28] <LjL> Alex[RM-UK] : anyway, it installs the program. it's the same as "make install" (which is the usual way to install programs from source), except that it creates an Ubuntu package too, so you can remove the program later if you desire
[03:29] <Alex[RM-UK] > oooo nice nice,
[03:29] <david__> How do I enable a Scroll Wheel   on my usb mouse
[03:29] <bDerrly> gnomefreak, c'mon now, i'm not asking how to use dapper...i'm asking if anyone else has done an upgrade today and their xserver died on them
[03:29] <bDerrly> david__, Option ZAxisMapping "4 5" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the mouse section
[03:29] <bDerrly> it should already be configured though
[03:30] <crimsun> bDerrly: does the X server not start at all?
[03:30] <bDerrly> crimsun, nope
[03:30] <crimsun> bDerrly: or is it just gdm
[03:30] <david__> ok thanx
[03:30] <bDerrly> either gdm or startx both die
[03:30] <gnomefreak> bDerrly, i understand that all i am saying is that not many people are using it
[03:30] <crimsun> bDerrly: what about xinit ?
[03:30] <melonipoika> ok, now automatix is running perfectly... but i cannot understand why the repositories were for horay isnted of been for breezy...
[03:30] <david__> I just pluged it in... it works but not scroll wheel,should I restart?
[03:30] <crimsun> gdm will fail because /usr/X11R6/bin/X no longer exists
[03:31] <crimsun> you can kludge around that by changing instances of that to /usr/bin/Xorg
[03:31] <robotgeek> melonipoika: you might want to lock the root account, with 'sudo passwd -l root'
[03:31] <Aradorn> whats the config file that stores what resolutions you can use?
[03:31] <Stevie[Belgium] > Hello is there someone who can explain me how I can install realplayer plugin for firefox?
[03:31] <melonipoika> has anyone succed installing kiax on ubuntu?
[03:31] <LjL> Aradorn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:32] <Aradorn> k thought so
[03:32] <melonipoika> robotgeek, thanks
[03:32] <Aradorn> some reason when i upgraded the kernel its only allowing me to boot into 640x480 =\
[03:32] <bDerrly> crimsun, hmmm, that doesn't seem very smart to bork gdm like that  :)
[03:32] <LjL> !tell Stevie[Belgium]  about RestrictedFormats
[03:32] <bDerrly> crimsun, even considering that however, X still doesn't start with startx...
[03:33] <bDerrly> crimsun, or xinit
[03:33] <araka> hi everyone
[03:33] <araka> anyone
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi araka
[03:34] <mx-r> need help - is there some firewall that comes by default with ubuntu? i get NAT error on testing a port although it should be open.
[03:34] <araka> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[03:34] <SatanG> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper1.5 but u cant use make distclean, make, make install?
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> mx-r: iptables is part of the kernel, but by default it allows everything
[03:34] <LjL> SatanG: you're missing a part, that's "make distclean; ./configure; make; sudo checkinstall"
[03:34] <mx-r> hmm, ok...
[03:35] <araka> i am just totally new to linux stuffs...so what may do i need to know
[03:35] <mx-r> Kamping_Kaiser, then I will just look once more to check the config...
[03:35] <mx-r> Kamping_Kaiser, hmm, now it somehow worked out. it just took longer to probe the port. the app was azureus by the way - it first seemed that it did not get past the port test
[03:36] <LjL> SatanG: anyway, ndiswrapper apparently is a kernel modules, which complicates things more than a little
[03:36] <SatanG> LjL, huh? it doesnt work
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> mx-r: hm. havent heard that one before, but good you worked it out
[03:36] <zeeky> hello
[03:36] <Ethan> ubot is not there ....
[03:36] <ripoff> hi
[03:36] <lord_rob> Does Ubuntu enable a firewall by default for external internet access ?
[03:37] <LjL> SatanG: no, i suppose it doesn't, 'cause kernel modules cannot be compiled just like normal programs
[03:37] <LjL> SatanG: i can't help you here, except for...
[03:37] <zeeky> hey do you know how to make a rpm a deb?
[03:37] <LjL> !tell Satang about ndiswrapper
[03:37] <melonipoika> is there any benefict when patching the kernel with con kolivas patches?
[03:37] <lord_rob> zeeky: alien
[03:37] <zeeky> wait
[03:37] <zeeky> lol i joined wrong channal
[03:37] <araka> hi Kamping_Kaiser ..am just new to linux so what could be next...i just installed ubuntu
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zeeky  about alien
[03:37] <mx-r> Kamping_Kaiser, the thing simply was that usually Azureus does this quickly - if port is not open it says NAT error, when its fine it says OK. now it did not do anything for longer time but the second time I tried it worked out. first thought that there might be some firewall
[03:38] <SatanG> oh, i see
[03:38] <Pennywise^> Hi
[03:38] <zeeky> hi
[03:38] <vbhanu> I have two users vbhanu and vbhanu1 belonging to group1 and group2 groups,
[03:38] <bDerrly> crimsun, i've got /usr/X11R6/bin/X so gdm isn't dying there.  it has to do with the keyboard and mouse drivers...
[03:38] <vbhanu> now i want to make a file accessible to both of them
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> mx-r: i havent use azeurus, so i don't know
[03:38] <vbhanu> but i cannot add vbhanu to group2 or vbanu1 to group2
[03:38] <vbhanu>  how do i do that
[03:38] <crimsun> bDerrly: then you're not encountering the normal issue.
[03:38] <vbhanu> neither do i want to create a new group
[03:38] <bDerrly> heh, hooray  ;-)
[03:39] <Pennywise^> I've a question... i'm running ubuntu and I'm going to install windows xp... after the install how can i restore the boot manager? I don't have a floppy drive... can I create a boot disk with my usb-pendrive?
[03:39] <bDerrly> Pennywise^, use a rescue disc and install grub again
[03:40] <Pennywise^> bDerrly, as i said I dont have a floppy drive :(
[03:40] <juliux> hi is here somebody who have an hp nx6110 ?
[03:40] <bigfoot1> I was given advice to "pkill evolution-data-server-1.4 ". How exactly do I go about doing this?
[03:40] <bDerrly> Pennywise^, the ubuntu disc or knoppix will work fine
[03:40] <sad157> Hello
[03:40] <sad157> I have a problem with Gtk
[03:40] <SatanG> LjL, thats how to set it up, but u dont know how i install it?
[03:40] <Pennywise^> bDerrly, I'm running ubuntu.. with the installation cd is possible to boot into my os?
[03:40] <araka> guys, how can i obtain an unofficial ubuntu app on cd
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, type it in terminal
[03:41] <araka> add on i mean
[03:41] <sad157> http://benny.saitti.net/gtk.png how in the earth that font is so small and how can I easily change it back normal size?
[03:41] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy: ah! thank you!!!
[03:41] <bDerrly> Pennywise^, i'm almost certain it is, i haven't used the ubuntu disc as a rescue disc in quite some time but i'm sure you can
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, you do know what it does right ? :P
[03:42] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy: not really. but i was told to do that to get rid of my data on evo2. (I'm wanting a clean slate on evo2 before i syny my pda)
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Pennywise^,  im pretty sure if you have a live cd you can use it to fix grub im not sure about install disk
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, won't it be wiser to find out what it does before typing it ?
[03:42] <LjL> SatanG: as far as i can understand, it's *already* installed (perhaps an older version than the one you were trying, though). installing it "manually" will be a pain, as you will have to recompile the kernel, i suppose
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> i mean ... for all you care the command could be for wiping out the whole harddisk
[03:42] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy: well i thought pkill sounded similar to xkill, so i'm not very worried.
[03:42] <SatanG> lol, ok
[03:43] <SatanG> thx anyway
[03:43] <Pennywise^> gnomefreak, then, if i boot a livecd... I will mount the root partition, and how can i reinstall grub?
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, okie then :P
[03:43] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy: if the command were something like rm or rf with a */ or /* then I'd probably confirm, but pkill sounded not that harmful
[03:44] <gnomefreak> Pennywise^, ok maybe i didnt understand something i thought you installed xp and than lost grub you were trrying to fix grub to boot to both oses
[03:44] <LjL> bigfoot1: try kill -9 1
[03:44] <Pennywise^> gnomefreak, yes, you have understood ;) sorry for my poor english
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> LjL, you can't kill init ... but you already knew that right :P
[03:45] <david__> I still cant get my wheel mouse to work
[03:45] <Pennywise^> gnomefreak, the question is: after I've installed winxp, and after i've boot the livecd... how can i make grub work again?
[03:45] <LjL> wickedpuppy: i didn't think of that honestly... but i did think that, without a "sudo", that wouldn't have done much anyway :)
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> LjL, even root can't kill init :P
[03:45] <Madeye> isn't there anyway to open safari ebooks on linux?
[03:46] <SatanG> is there another way than ndiswrapper?
[03:46] <sad157> pennywise, boot into your Linux with reascue disc and run grub. should be that easy?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Pennywise^,  to fix grub you shouldnt have to mount anything if both oses are installed it should just  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst go in and add winxp info to the grub list or if thats too hard reinstall ubuntu and it should find xp and allow you to boot to it
[03:46] <LjL> wickedpuppy: what about for (( i=1; i<65536; i++ )); do sudo kill -s 9 $i; done   then?
[03:47] <Pennywise^> Ok guys, i'll try in this way
[03:47] <bDerrly> LjL, oooh, that should be a fun one!
[03:47] <Pennywise^> many thanks!
[03:47] <sad157> am I really only one with problems caused by Gtk and fonts
[03:47] <LjL> actually, that might not work, because it could kill itself before it's killed the rest of the system
[03:48] <LjL> but, hey, that's called "giving a chance"
[03:48] <luisito> hello people
[03:48] <Duro_De_Peinar> nos dias voz
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> !es
[03:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:48] <LjL> don't think it's the right language
[03:49] <gnomefreak> im thinking its not spanish :(
[03:49] <psychocat> it is, he just mispelled one word
[03:49] <gnomefreak> im not sure tho
[03:49] <david__> how do I get an mouse wheel to work?
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> oh
[03:49] <gnomefreak> oh
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> thats not french either
[03:49] <Pennywise^> gnomefreak, the last question ;) but there isn't a way to install grub on my pen drive and run boot from it? (my motherboard does support boot through usb-devices)
[03:49] <LjL> psychocat: ah ok
[03:49] <LjL> wickedpuppy: and it's not italian
[03:49] <psychocat> he's asking for voice
[03:49] <viller> hi
[03:49] <gnomefreak> Pennywise^, i dont know
[03:49] <luisito> which is the name of  the configuration file for all the boot settings of ubuntu?
[03:49] <LjL> there's only pt left :)
[03:50] <gnomefreak> pt?
[03:50] <LjL> portuguese
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ah
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> david__, may i suggest that you paste ya xorg.conf on the pastebin and ask someone to look see if its right ?
[03:50] <viller> should /boot/grub/device.map have partitions listed in it or just hard drives?
[03:50] <Pennywise^> gnomefreak, ok, thx ;)
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> !pt
[03:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> Pennywise^,  sorry wasnt able to help more
[03:50] <LjL> why is the bot a woman when speaking portuguese?
[03:50] <david__> how do I do that?
[03:50] <viller> should /boot/grub/device.map have partitions listed in it or just hard drives?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu is a female now? you people confuse me :(
[03:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gnomefreak
[03:51] <ogra> robotgeek, but i can answer you here ;)
[03:51] <rob_p> LjL:  I wondered the same thing.  I just assumed it was after seeing that!  :-)
[03:51] <robotgeek> ogra: thanks
[03:51] <LjL> gnomefreak: i don't know, "she" said "obrigada", that's feminine
[03:51] <viller> should /boot/grub/device.map have partitions listed in it or just hard drives?
[03:51] <SatanG> how to solve: apt-get update
[03:51] <SatanG>  --> E: Type 'eb' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:51] <SatanG>   ?
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> david__, gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... copy the thing and paste onto the pastebin
[03:51] <ogra> robotgeek, the apps have gksudo in their .desktop files so enabling a root password only helps on console ...
[03:51] <viller> should /boot/grub/device.map have partitions listed in it or just hard drives?
[03:51] <robotgeek> ogra: so it basically leaves you with 2 superusers
[03:52] <david__> ok but where is the pastebin?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> SatanG, eb isnt a country code where did you get it from :(
[03:52] <cro-smiley> hi all
[03:52] <ogra> robotgeek, indeed you could edit all the .desktop files (which hold the menu entries) but that would be reverted on upgrades
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell david__ about pastebin
[03:52] <viller> should /boot/grub/device.map have partitions listed in it or just hard drives?
[03:52] <ogra> robotgeek, nope, it leaves you with a sudo account and you have additionally enabled the root account ...
[03:52] <robotgeek> ogra: but the gksudo will work with the user's password
[03:52] <ogra> robotgeek, yup
[03:52] <viller> should /boot/grub/device.map have partitions listed in it or just hard drives?
[03:53] <maffju> viller: just hard drives afaik
[03:53] <Xenguy> Gnome Q: how can I list *all* apps in *all* workspaces?  Do I need an extra plug-in?
[03:53] <ogra> robotgeek, imho its totally pointless to enable root ... (others might disagree here :) )
[03:53] <robotgeek> ogra: so, it just makes the system inherently more vulnerable
[03:53] <robotgeek> ogra: i'm of the same opinion, but i need to know so that i can tell others :)
[03:54] <cro-smiley> does anyone know where can i find analog clock for Ubuntu?
[03:54] <viller> does the partition where i install grub need to be in a xfs filesystem?
[03:54] <ogra> robotgeek, it shouldnt make the system more vulnerable ... its just useless ...
[03:54] <gnomefreak> cro-smiley, synaptic  i thought i saw one yesterday
[03:55] <robotgeek> ogra: agreed. and a sudo passwd -l root will restore normalcy :)
[03:55] <SatanG> gnomefreak, apt-get update
[03:55] <SatanG> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:55] <SatanG> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:55] <robotgeek> SatanG: prefix sudo
[03:55] <bDerrly> SatanG, sudo
[03:55] <gnomefreak> SatanG, sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <psychocat> viller: no, it can even be an NTFS file system
[03:55] <david__> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5088 ... my mouse hase 2 buttons and a scroll wheel... the scrole wheel can be pushed to be used as a middle button
[03:55] <SatanG> ohhh, its hard to get used
[03:55] <ogra> robotgeek, yup
[03:55] <robotgeek> ogra: appreciate your help
[03:55] <LjL> eb = elbonia
[03:55] <ogra> robotgeek, youre welcome :)
[03:56] <gnomefreak> LjL,  still never heard of it :(
[03:56] <bowubuntu> hehee
[03:56] <LjL> gnomefreak: i was just kidding :) "elbonia" is a fictionary country in Dilbert, at least in the italian translation
[03:56] <gnomefreak> LjL,  oh ok lol sorry
[03:56] <robotgeek> ogra: i pretty much hang in here 12 outta 24 hours. it was kinda redundant asking in here :)
[03:57] <mtupper> hey all, so real rookie ? here, how do I get a more updated package on my package list?  more specifically, wine is not working and someone on the #wine channel recommended reinstalling v. 0.9.2 instead of what Synaptic installed which was v. 0.0.20050725-0 ???
[03:57] <ogra> robotgeek, yes, but we dont pam the -dev channel with support stuff ;)
[03:57] <ogra> *spam
[03:57] <psychocat> LjL: it's on the english version too, lol
[03:57] <robotgeek> ogra: agreed, my bad.
[03:57] <ogra> dont worry
[03:57] <robotgeek> ogra: the question is, how do i find someone to bug. lol
[03:58] <viller> i get this error when installing grub 'xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem
[03:58] <viller> '
[03:58] <ogra> robotgeek, look in -dev and ping the people in here might work i guess ...
[03:58] <LjL> psychocat: well, i supposed so, but couldn't be sure, never read the english version (though i should, as i have some hundred megabytes of saved comics in english ;)
[03:58] <robotgeek> ogra: good idea. tht shud work
[03:58] <psychocat> LjL: holy cow
[03:59] <cool_guy20> hey everyone..i want to know how to disable identd/authd..
[03:59] <LjL> psychocat: well my Debian server is downloading the new strips every night... there's a program specifically to download comics
[03:59] <LjL> psychocat: i mean, a program in the Debian reps
[03:59] <cool_guy20> its interfering with my username in xchat...
[04:00] <LjL> psychocat: it's "dailystrips" and i've found it in the ubuntu reps as well :)
[04:00] <psychocat> LjL: i get the dilbert comic sent to my work pc everyday.
[04:00] <LjL> psychocat: i have them on my debian
[04:00] <LjL> psychocat: i have them on my debian's internal webserver
[04:00] <psychocat> LjL: nice :)
[04:00] <Balduran> can somebody help me with a network problem?
[04:01] <rob_p> cool_guy20:  Are you running an auth server?  If not, then there's nothing to disable.
[04:01] <psychocat> Balduran: just ask away
[04:01] <cool_guy20> rob_p: i dint setup anything like that myself...
[04:02] <Balduran> psychocat: i want that  1 network card send the signals that it gets to another card..
[04:02] <kakei> any idea of why when i try to install ubuntu i get http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7008/ubuntu0352kt.jpg i have try with ubuntu and ubuntu64
[04:02] <fredux> hello, comment je fais pour dsinstaller un programme ?
[04:02] <bob31984> can anyone help me with getting my usb external hard drive working? i have modprobe'd some modules but i'm sort of stabbing in the dark here
[04:03] <Cole> balduran: are you trying to set up the computer as a gateway? or something to that affect?
[04:03] <Balduran> Cole:  http://balduran.de/images2/room.jpg << the desktop pc is now a ubuntu pc... i need internet on the network.. i think i need something like ip forwarding maybe??
[04:04] <LjL> psychocat: put them on the webserver so that the rest of my family could read them too, but they're too lazy to learn enough english to understand comics ;-\ i should find an handwriting-OCR and a decent machine translator... hey, perhaps i'll have them in 20 years or so :)
[04:04] <rob_p> cool_guy20:  There isn't an auth server installed/enabled by default so unless you installed and enabled one, you don't have one.  An exception to that would be a NAT server, which provides your Internet connectivity, having an auth server on it.
[04:04] <cool_guy20> rob_p: oh..ok thanks
[04:05] <rob_p> cool_guy20:  I could hit your port 113 to see if auth services are being offered if you like.
[04:06] <cool_guy20> rob_p: i connect from behind  a proxy server..so i guess that might be the thing..
[04:06] <Zedugh> fredux: 'sudo apt-get remove <package>' (leaves config files), or 'sudo apt-get purge <package>' (removes all files for package)
[04:06] <nceterval> Hello, after nothing but a reboot my Breezy machine is no longer connecting to the network.  No hardware changes were made, I'm sure it is a software problem.  Attempts to ping the machine from others in the network find it 'unreachable'.  Is there some sort of service I might have foolishly disabled, a module to be loaded, or something?
[04:06] <six66power> hello i just installed ubuntu for the first time and im trying to network with my windows pc for file and printer sharing, can someone help me with this
[04:07] <XIII> hi
[04:07] <hzg> hi
[04:07] <six66power> hello
[04:07] <augustin> hello
[04:07] <_moss> is it safe to upgrade from i386 to i686*
[04:07] <augustin> anyone using alltray here ?
[04:07] <rob_p> cool_guy20:  Ahh.  Then it's very possible it's configured to provide auth service.  Any chance of having the admin use a NAT friendly ident server?  I think oidentd is one which supports it.  Anyway, good luck with it.
[04:07] <_moss> using adept* ?
[04:08] <Cole> balduran: i'll be honest.. thats out of my realm of knowledge.. i know its duable.. but i've never done it
[04:08] <cantona> _moss: how?
[04:08] <XIII> i installed breezy 5.10 , i found my windows opens as a folder per window not in the same window so it opens so much windows what can i do?
[04:08] <_moss> is it safe to upgrade to i686 kernel using adept from i386?
[04:08] <cool_guy20> rob_p: thanks for the help
[04:09] <rob_p> cool_guy20:  np
[04:09] <cantona> _moss: yes
[04:09] <_moss> it wont break anything?
[04:09] <augustin> when i use alltray, the window just disappears and i can't find the minimized version anywhere... what am i missing ? where do they go ? i'm confused...
[04:09] <six66power> any one know about networking with a windows pc?
[04:09] <XIII> rob_p can u help in that?
[04:10] <_moss> how do i edit grub
[04:10] <Alex[RM-UK] > Hey,
[04:10] <_moss> ?
[04:10] <Alex[RM-UK] > im following a guide ant it says:
[04:10] <Alex[RM-UK] > As there is no KDE Control Center any more, there's no LooknFeel. So where would Behavior be?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> i386-i686 is a processer speed dependsing on your intel chip you get closest too it?
[04:10] <Alex[RM-UK] > where would behavior be?
[04:10] <psychocat> _moss: what do you want to do?
[04:10] <_moss> remove i386 from grub
[04:11] <psychocat> _moss: you want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[04:11] <_moss> ok
[04:11] <XIII> ppl, i need help in that it confuses me
[04:11] <_moss> 1 more thing, if i get a USB network adapter (wireless) will it work straight away?
[04:12] <augustin> when i use alltray, the window just disappears and i can't find the minimized version anywhere... what am i missing ? where do they go ? i'm confused...
[04:12] <gnomefreak> XIII, is you ask you shall recieve :)
[04:12] <gnomefreak> maybe*
[04:12] <XIII> i did
[04:12] <XIII> i installed breezy 5.10 , i found my windows opens as a folder per window not in the same window so it opens so much windows what can i do?
[04:12] <nceterval> Alex[RM-UK] : KDE Control Center is reachable via command 'kcontrol', I believe.
[04:12] <gnomefreak> huh????
[04:12] <candlelight> hi, qmail is not in ubuntu repository?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> !qmail
[04:12] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you smoking crack?
[04:13] <hzg> i installed ubuntu and xp in one machine,but i want to delete grub.  how to do?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> yes :(
[04:13] <gnomefreak> hes so mean to me
[04:13] <rob_p> XIII:  I'm guessing it's maybe in Nautlis --> Edit --> Preferences somewhere...
[04:13] <Zedugh> moss, re USB wireless adaptor, look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28wifi%29
[04:14] <stratovarius> hey who can tell me a good how to to create a ftp server?
[04:14] <XIII> hzg u should adjust the linux root dev as bootable from the ubuntu setup cd
[04:14] <gnomefreak> XIII, do you mean they are not tabbed?
[04:14] <nkolas20> i'm trying to edit a file using the GUI and it wont let me because i dont have the permission. how can i change without using the cli?
[04:14] <XIII> no, i mean every click opens a new window gnomefreak
[04:14] <Ethan> nkolas20: cli?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> XIII,  so does mine :(
[04:15] <nkolas20> command line
[04:15] <XIII> it's ok, anyway what is the solution u think?
[04:15] <stratovarius> nobody can help me?
[04:15] <XIII> i can't find it in this new copy
[04:15] <Zedugh> nkolas20, use cli ( a term ) to start gui editor, in term type 'sudo gedit <filename>'
[04:15] <Ethan> nkolas20: you could start a gui program from the cli
[04:16] <ketaset> is there a dpkg command to query which packages depend on a particular package?
[04:16] <LjL> ketaset: dpkg --info, i think'
[04:16] <XIII> gnomefreak is there a way to solve that?
[04:16] <nkolas20> thanks
[04:17] <gnomefreak> read what rob_p  said lil ways up from here
[04:17] <_moss> :)
[04:17] <_moss> lot quicker on i686
[04:17] <XIII> i did but i have no nautlis here
[04:17] <_moss> than i386
[04:18] <gnomefreak> XIII, what desktop are you using?
[04:18] <XIII> gdm
[04:18] <gnomefreak> nautlis is the file system for gdm XIII
[04:18] <gnomefreak> it might be for kde too but i not sure on kde
[04:19] <dooglus> nautilus is a file manager, not a file system. ubuntu uses ext3 as its file system by default
[04:19] <gnomefreak> file manager i think its called
[04:19] <candlelight> during installation, i tried to specify "var/log" for lvm but it couldn't generate the volume, how to create such mount point without using command line?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> dooglus,  i was fixing it
[04:19] <dooglus> gnomefreak: so i see :)
[04:19] <dooglus> kde uses konqueror
[04:20] <gnomefreak> i re read it after i typed it and said sh*t thats not right
[04:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:20] <psychocat> _moss: I'm not sure on that. I'm sure you'll have to do some configuration to get it to work.
[04:20] <dooglus> you don't have to run nautilus when you run gnome.  I don't.
[04:21] <gnomefreak> dooglus, but you do have to have a file manager right?
[04:21] <dooglus> gnomefreak: no, I don't use them.  I don't see any benefit from having some program draw little pictures of all my files.
[04:21] <psychocat> you can do it by cli
[04:21] <dooglus> gnomefreak: if I want to see a list of my files, I type "ls"
[04:21] <XIII> noway, i can't find it in this version
[04:22] <gnomefreak> oh ok well im assuming since his problem is too many windows open than he is running something
[04:22] <psychocat> he's running nautilus
[04:23] <gnomefreak> XIII, open your home folder and click edit than click prfferences and look for it in there
[04:23] <XIII> do u use breezy gnomefreak?
[04:24] <Zedugh> XIII, edit>preferences>behavior, uncheck 'always open in brower windows'
[04:24] <gnomefreak> XIII,  yes i do have breezy
[04:24] <XIII> open it and try to find it gnomefreak then tell me
[04:24] <Zedugh> XIII, edit>preferences>behavior, uncheck 'always open in brower windows'
[04:25] <XIII> it's not like the older version
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Zedugh, just told you XIII  where to find it
[04:25] <XIII> Zedugh it's not the problem as it's already unchecked from the begining
[04:26] <Zedugh> XIII, im on breeay, gnome, and it controls the windows behavior for me
[04:26] <psychocat> XIII: try killall nautilus after it, just in case the changes aren't happening right away
[04:26] <XIII> i need to open the folders in the same window not to open each folder in a diffirent window
[04:26] <Madeye> guys, i'm plugging new HDD, now with gparted do I have to create it as primary or extended, and for filesystem ext2 or ext3 ? NOTE: it will be used as extra storage for linux only
[04:27] <gnomefreak> XIII,  i dont think folders will open in same window but files will
[04:27] <XIII> i mean not to open a NEW WINDOW
[04:27] <psychocat> Madeye: primary and you can do either file system
[04:28] <Madeye> psychocat, what's the difference between them? and is it going to be auto mounted? How to access it later?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> XIII, ok look FOLDERS open in differetn WINDOWS. FILES will open in same WINDOW i have mine set the same way with it unchecked and thats what happens
[04:28] <Zedugh> Madeye, you need to start with a primary (if you only want 1 partition, then 1 primary) , then, your choice of ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc
[04:29] <cubex> hello everyone
[04:29] <cubex> how can i disable AGPGART and use nvidia-agp instead?
[04:29] <XIII> never i got a solution from this server really i'm so stupid to think i could find an answer here, really shit
[04:29] <cubex> i think agpgart is loaded on startup, right?
[04:29] <psychocat> Madeye: you'll have to enter the information into /etc/fstab for it to automount every time
[04:29] <Alex[RM-UK] > I just downloaded Baghira, but the images files are .png.V ... why the V?
[04:29] <cubex> i need to enable AGP FastWrites, maybe get some more FPS :)
[04:30] <augustin> when i use alltray, the window just disappears and i can't find the minimized version anywhere... what am i missing ? where do they go ? i'm confused...
[04:30] <cubex> the /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status says i have AGPGART loaded and FastWrties is disabled
[04:31] <luisito> how I change the kubuntu boot style back to the ubuntu boot style?
[04:32] <kitsune> Howdy, anyone there who maybe canhelp me out?
[04:32] <psychocat> Madeye: google for the differences.  lot to type :)
[04:33] <imajuchi> does any one knows or have a cannon multifunction printer f80 working in ubuntu
[04:33] <psychocat> kitsune: just ask your question
[04:33] <imajuchi> or if you have any info on how can i set up my f80 printer
[04:34] <gnomefreak> how do you run the abs guide?
[04:34] <psychocat> imajuchi: check linuxprinting.org
[04:34] <Madeye> psychocat, i'm getting this
[04:34] <kitsune> I've got this problem, I can't connect to the internet, although I can acces the network and router
[04:34] <imajuchi> thank you psychocat
[04:34] <Madeye> Error while creating /dev/hdb1
[04:34] <Madeye> Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list.
[04:35] <psychocat> Madeye: what systax did you use
[04:35] <Madeye> psychocat,  i'm using gParted.
[04:35] <iamkirk> Unable to Eject Media umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:35] <iamkirk> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:35] <iamkirk> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[04:35] <iamkirk> anyone help me ?
[04:36] <iamkirk> im trying to install cs on cedega
[04:36] <Amaranth> iamkirk: and cedega locked your drive
[04:36] <Amaranth> iamkirk: kill cedega and you can eject
[04:37] <psychocat> Madeye: so you have hdb selected
[04:37] <BenDrake> hola
[04:37] <psychocat> Madeye: what did you do next
[04:38] <cubex> guys please, how can i disable agpgart from loading?
[04:38] <cubex> i need to load nvidia-agp instead, but i'm not sure why
[04:38] <cubex> err, not sure how
[04:38] <kitsune> Can anyone help me? I can't acces the internet in ubuntu, but I could in Win 98 and XP...
[04:38] <psychocat> cubex: you may have to reconfigure the x server
[04:38] <BenDrake> i was wondering, is gnome the only WM for ubuntu?
[04:38] <Madeye> psychocat, create new -> primary -> ext3
[04:38] <cubex> psychocat but it has nothing to do with x
[04:38] <BenDrake> what kind of connection do you have kitschd
[04:38] <cubex> psychocat it's a kernel module
[04:38] <BenDrake> er.. kitsune rather
[04:39] <psychocat> cubex: you may have to recompile, not sure though
[04:39] <kitsune> I've got ADSL
[04:39] <cubex> psychocat why would i need to recompile it?
[04:39] <kitsune> BenDrake, I connect via a router
[04:39] <Zedugh> cubex, from where did you get nvidia-agp?
[04:39] <BenDrake> kitsune open a konsole window
[04:39] <caonex> how long does it take to receive the cds, once they have been sent to the shipping company? Mine were sent to the company on 8-22-05 and still have not gotten them, is this normal?
[04:40] <cubex> Zedugh nvidia-glx
[04:40] <BenDrake> kitsune: then run pppoeconf
[04:40] <cubex> Zedugh actually, linux-restritcted-modules
[04:40] <Zedugh> cubex, yes, but from where did you download nvidia-agpx
[04:40] <Zedugh> nvidia-agp*
[04:40] <cubex> Zedugh i got it from that package, linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:41] <kitsune> Bendrake, pppoeconf? how do I do that?
[04:41] <kitsune> just type it in the terminal?
[04:41] <BenDrake> kitsune: do you have a terminal open?
[04:41] <cubex> Zedugh i added nvidia-agp to /etc/modules and it loads just fine, but it's useless if agpgart is loaded on boot
[04:41] <BenDrake> kitsune: u have to be SU
[04:42] <kitsune> okay
[04:43] <BenDrake> kitsune: enter your info.. username and pass... then just keep hitting enter to till its done  :)
[04:43] <topyli> cubex: perhaps editing /etc/hotplug/blacklist might help
[04:43] <gnomefreak> is there a way to run the abs guide (advanced bash scripting guide)
[04:44] <BenDrake> oooh, I may have missed it.. but is gnome the only window manager for ubuntu?:
[04:44] <topyli> to run it? it's a bash guide, not a bash script :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> BenDrake, nope there are alot
[04:44] <BenDrake> oooooooh, gravy
[04:44] <cubex> topyli that's what i did right now, i'm trying it out
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Topyli yes that i know but i would like to open it so i can read it
[04:45] <cubex> topyli the only problem is that agpgart is loaded whenever *any* module that depends on it is loaded
[04:45] <gnomefreak> typeing abs-guide in terminal doesnt work and thats what synaptic calls it
[04:45] <topyli> cubex: oh of course. hrm
[04:45] <kitsune> Bendrake, I'm back, it didn't work, its said "not connected"
[04:46] <cubex> topyli i don't think there's a way to completely remove agpgart without recompiling the kernel
[04:46] <Zedugh> cubex, is your motherboard based on an nvidia chipset?
[04:46] <cubex> Zedugh yep, nForce3
[04:46] <gnomefreak> BenDrake,  as a matter of fact im installing xfce window manager in ubuntu as we speak
[04:46] <erisco> why do i have all these duplicate files with a "~" at the end? how can i stop these from being made?
[04:46] <cubex> topyli i don't think there's a way to completely remove agpgart without recompiling the kernel
[04:46] <BenDrake> hmmmm.... did you enter your username and pass correctly?
[04:46] <cubex> topyli sorry
[04:46] <kitsune> yeah
[04:47] <cubex> guys, i just added amd64_agp and agpgart to the end of /etc/hotplug/blacklist... it worked =)
[04:47] <Zedugh> cubex, have you tried 'lsmod | grep nvidia'?
[04:47] <kitsune> well, when I typed "Su", it wanted my password, but I couldn't input one
[04:47] <cubex> Zedugh yeah, i need to load both nvidia and nvidia-agp in order to get this to run
[04:47] <topyli> cubex: yeah well, that would work
[04:47] <BenDrake> whoah... u have to be superuser.....
[04:47] <gnomefreak> kitsune,  su is not active in ubuntu use sudo infront of the command
[04:47] <cubex> thanks a lot for the tip
[04:48] <cubex> i'm going to play more with my ubuntu desktop
[04:48] <BenDrake> ooh, that could be the reason.. sorry kitsune
[04:48] <cubex> thanks guys
[04:48] <cubex> see you later
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !su
[04:48] <ubotu> No idea, gnomefreak
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !sudo
[04:48] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:48] <kitsune> gnomefreak, so I should so should input "!sudo pppoeconf" ?
[04:49] <BenDrake> no
[04:49] <BenDrake> just "sudo pppoeconf
[04:49] <BenDrake> er  "sudo pppoeconf"   rather..
[04:49] <thak> join #ltsp
[04:49] <misfit_toy> does anyone know how to make the nvidia-settings stay on next reboot? I've googled and can't seem to find anything on that.
[04:49] <kitsune> okay, thx, be right back, thx
[04:49] <BenDrake> no quotes when you enter it.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> kitsune, same as a su command but instead of doing the su your command would look like 'sudo apt-get install .........'
[04:50] <mcfergus> hi
[04:51] <mcfergus> apparently your last kernel update makes the kernel die with "kernel panic: unable to mount VFS on node blah blah "
[04:51] <mcfergus> I can't boot anymore, is there any solution to this ?
[04:51] <BenDrake> hm, i have ubuntu installing on my laptop..  wonder if I should install it on my desktop...
[04:52] <sziszi> hi all
[04:52] <kitsune> I'm back, it just said the same again: "the access concentrator of your provider did not respont, please check your network and cables"
[04:52] <sziszi> i recently installed ubuntu and i have a problem with DVI display
[04:52] <sziszi> i wonder if anyone can help me out with this
[04:53] <sziszi> i have no image when i switch to the console
[04:53] <Zedugh> kitsuni, adsl or cable, pppoe/pppoa or other?
[04:53] <sziszi> and only with DVI connection
[04:53] <BenDrake> back..
[04:53] <kitsune> ADSL, well, I connect via a standard network cable to a router
[04:54] <gnomefreak> wb BenDrake
[04:54] <BenDrake> ubuntu run alright on a p3500 w/256mb ram?
[04:54] <BenDrake> thanks gnomefreak
[04:54] <Ethan> how do I install flash?
[04:54] <Ethan> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla said not found....
[04:55] <Ethan> and I guess i have multiverse
[04:55] <gnomefreak> BenDrake,  i dont see why not but linux depends on hardware your hardware may not be same as mine so hard for me to say
[04:55] <BenDrake> ahhh, ic.. i have mandrake 10.1 on it now.. and ubuntu installing on my 1.8 laptop
[04:55] <dylan_> i get this error when doing a sudo hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdd:  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[04:55] <dylan_> what does that mean?
[04:55] <BenDrake> kitsune: hows your pppoe coming?
[04:56] <Zedugh> kitsune, you probably have pppoe, and need to 'logon to your provider', need a pppoe client, or in your router, use admin functions to have your router sign in for you
[04:56] <Zedugh> kitsune, you need to know the pppoe userid/password your provider wants you to sign in as
[04:56] <kitsune> zedugh, I should log onto the router?
[04:56] <HappyFool> dylan_: i get that too; my /dev/hdc is a dvd-rom, and doesn't support certain operations
[04:56] <Zedugh> kitsune, yes, l
[04:56] <HappyFool> dylan_: you should still be able to enable DMA etc etc
[04:56] <kitsune> pppoe? but I've never heard of it before...
[04:57] <BenDrake> its like having dialup, without the dialup
[04:57] <dylan_> HappyFool, i can only enable DMA using bootmisc.sh...is something wrong?  hdparm.conf does NOTHING.
[04:57] <BenDrake> kitsune: er? ppp-over-ethernet.. as opposed to a modem
[04:57] <kitsune> Bendrake, oh
[04:57] <cifer> hmm i cant set my desktop resolution on something higher then 1024x768
[04:57] <kitsune> I see
[04:57] <BenDrake> did you open pppoeconf yet?
[04:57] <HappyFool> dylan_: hdparm.conf has fairly fussy syntax
[04:57] <kitsune> what does pppoa mean then?
[04:58] <dylan_> HappyFool, can you help at all?
[04:58] <Zedugh> kitsune, its point-to-point protocol over ethernet ( instead of ppp over dialup)
[04:58] <kitsune> Bendrake, yes
[04:58] <HappyFool> dylan_: you can put it up on the pastebin (paste.ubuntuliux.nl) and I'll see if it looks ok
[04:58] <kitsune> it said: "the access concentrator of your provider did not respont, please check your network and cables"
[04:58] <BenDrake> okay, and you input your info right.. bla@blanet.net er whatever
[04:58] <dylan_> HappyFool, ill do that under the name dylan_
[04:58] <BenDrake> ooh, than its your router..
[04:58] <dylan_> HappyFool, Firefox tells me that web site does not exist
[04:59] <BenDrake> what else is plugged into your router?
[04:59] <kitsune> Bendrake, I don't have that kind of info, I have never had to log in....
[04:59] <HappyFool> dylan_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ -- i'm viewing it right now
[04:59] <HappyFool> oh
[04:59] <HappyFool> i typed it wrong before, sorry
[04:59] <dylan_> thats weird.
[04:59] <HappyFool> i type liunx
[05:00] <dylan_> HappyFool, its up! ;)
[05:00] <Zedugh> kitsune, if you setup your connection  on a winbox, (using cd from provider) it happened "automagically"
[05:00] <BenDrake> hmm, maybe its not the "new"dsl..... you have to contact your provider for the info.. otherwise your network connection should be active on its own via dchp.. am i right?
[05:00] <opnsrc> I downloaded xboard-4.2.7.tar.gz
[05:01] <opnsrc> I extracted the directory in it to xboard-4.2.7
[05:01] <Zedugh> kitsune, if your router is connected to adsl modem, there should be an IP address for your modem, you can open it (with browser), and look for signon page, and also possibly test page that tests basic connection to provider
[05:01] <opnsrc> Read the readme file and it says type ./configure
[05:01] <opnsrc> then type make
[05:01] <kitsune> Bendrake, I have no idea. In windows, I just have to open explorer, and internet works right away
[05:01] <opnsrc> I typed ./configure it did something, then I typed make and it says
[05:01] <HappyFool> dylan_: hmm. looks ok
[05:01] <kitsune> I don't even have to do anything with my router...
[05:01] <BenDrake> hmm, did you set up your own windows box?
[05:01] <opnsrc> bash: make: command not found
[05:02] <Madeye> guys If i burn some files on DVD can CD reader read it?
[05:02] <opnsrc> How do i fix it?
[05:02] <HappyFool> dylan_: i've done something a bit different, though
[05:02] <kitsune> Zedugh, yeah, I can log onto my router
[05:02] <dylan_> HappyFool, whats that?
[05:02] <kitsune> Bendrake, what do you mean?
[05:02] <HappyFool> dylan_: i changed /etc/default/hdparm
[05:02] <Zedugh> kitsune, you should also be able to log on to your adsl modem
[05:02] <opnsrc> Doesn't Ubuntu come with a compiler?
[05:02] <BenDrake> did you order your internet?
[05:02] <HappyFool> dylan_: i have a line   harddisks="/dev/hdc" and a second line "hdparm_opts="-d1"
[05:02] <kitsune> I don't have an ADSL modem, it's built into my router
[05:02] <BenDrake> gah?
[05:03] <kitsune> Bendrake, dunno, so long time ago
[05:03] <HappyFool> dylan_: the comments tell you what to do -- you can probably figure it out. let me know if not
[05:03] <BenDrake> are you sure its adsl?
[05:03] <ardzeii> opnsrc: Install make. :)
[05:03] <kitsune> Yepp
[05:03] <HappyFool> dylan_: however, the /etc/hdparm.conf *should* still work
[05:03] <Zedugh> kitsune, ok, is there any 'test' or 'diagnostic'  pages on your router?
[05:03] <BenDrake> who is your isp?
[05:03] <Oetzi> hi can anyone tell where in boot-process bluez-utils are started
[05:03] <kitsune> Maybe, I'll go and check, be right back
[05:03] <kitsune> Bendrake, Telia
[05:04] <BenDrake> i donno..  hmmmm..
[05:04] <Oetzi> because i removed them from bootprocess some time ago but now i need them
[05:04] <dylan_> HappyFool, ok thanks...ill find out
[05:05] <Oetzi> the script os still in /etc/init.d/ but neither rcconf nor bum shows them to enable
[05:05] <dylan_> HappyFool, need i reboot after changing the files?
[05:05] <opnsrc> Where can I download make?
[05:05] <HappyFool> dylan_: i'm not sure how else you'd test it
[05:06] <ardzeii> Through Synaptic.
[05:06] <ardzeii> opnsrc: Through Synaptic.
[05:06] <dylan_> HappyFool, ok then ill be right back!
[05:06] <Oetzi> so if someone can tell me the number in bootprocess i can insert them manual
[05:06] <kitsune> Zedugh, I ran all teh tests I could, pinged my computer etc. Everything worked good
[05:06] <Zedugh> kitsune, any test to test your connection to your provider?
[05:07] <kitsune> nope
[05:07] <BenDrake> what are the reccomended specs for ubuntu?
[05:07] <ardzeii> kitsune: Tried pinging others aside from your computer? Like, uhh, try pinging google. :)
[05:07] <kitsune> Zedung and Bendrake, If it's a clue, I remember having the same problem with mandrake long ago, Konqueror worked great, but Opera and Mozzila didn't...
[05:07] <Zedugh> kitsune, any page like 'configure pppoe', 'configure signon', 'configure connection', 'setup', etc
[05:07] <chemaFPA> How to request another IP with DHCP in linux terminal, like "ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew in windows"
[05:07] <chemaFPA> ?
[05:08] <kitsune> Zedugh, yeah, the're is like 12 of them
[05:08] <kitsune> dunno what to configure though
[05:08] <kitsune> when it has always worked good before...
[05:08] <BenDrake> u cant use the net at all on your ubuntu box right?
[05:09] <kitsune> Bendrake, no, except the LAN works, and accessing the router
[05:09] <vbhanu> what is POSIX?
[05:09] <graabein> yo!
[05:09] <BenDrake> ooh my... im not sure..
[05:09] <vbhanu> what do we mean by POSIX compliant unix systems
[05:10] <Zedugh> kitsune, pretty sure you hardware/cables are ok, you need to configure to login to your provider.
[05:10] <HappyFool> dylan_: any luck?
[05:10] <dylan_> HappyFool, DMA is apparently enabled according to hdparm, but i think that's because of my editing of the bootmisc.sh
[05:10] <HappyFool> dylan_: ah
[05:10] <kitsune> Zedugh, okay, well, I guess I will have to go and look for the papers for my ISP
[05:10] <Zedugh> kitsune, you need to know the type of authentication they use, and your userid/password, or whatever info your provider requires
[05:10] <HappyFool> vbhanu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posix
[05:10] <mcfergus> apparently your last kernel update makes the kernel die with "kernel panic: unable to mount VFS on node blah blah ". I can't boot anymore, is there any solution to this ?
[05:11] <opnsrc> it says you must run it through root user
[05:11] <kitsune> but as I said before: "If it's a clue, I remember having the same problem with mandrake long ago, Konqueror worked great, but Opera and Mozzila didn't..." Shouldn't the problem be with teh ports or something?
[05:11] <opnsrc> Uhm..... sudo synaptic ?
[05:11] <BenDrake> brb, going to icewm.. whoot
[05:11] <dylan_> HappyFool, well thanks for your help, HappyFool ... may i implore your help just once more?
[05:11] <opnsrc> yep
[05:11] <HappyFool> dylan_: sure
[05:11] <kitsune> What ports does Mozilla and Fire Fox use?
[05:11] <ardzeii> opnsrc: Yeah. There's also a menu item for synaptic. Found under System -- Admin.
[05:11] <Zedugh> kitsune, probably not, probably your problem before is not related to this
[05:12] <mcfergus> kitsune, any ports
[05:12] <chemaFPA> Some manual about network config based in DEBIAN/UBUNTU?
[05:12] <kitsune> OKay, i'LL TRY TO FIND TEH PAPERS, BE BACK LATER
[05:12] <opnsrc> what is make under?
[05:12] <kitsune> Sorry, caps lock
[05:12] <dylan_> HappyFool, im trying to configure my Network Proxy in GNOME.  I went to System - Preferences - Network Proxy and selected automatic configuration, typed in http://192.168.0.1 , the URL of my router... gtk-gnutella still says im firewalled... i want everything to work properly becasue apparently Gaim gets mad @ me too whenever i attempt to send or receive files via Send File or Direct Connect.
[05:13] <ardzeii> opnsrc: Try searching for make.
[05:13] <HappyFool> dylan_: um
[05:13] <Zedugh> kitsune, you can install/look at package pppoeconf, but you router probably will do it for you, if you know how to configure it
[05:13] <Ethan> Hi
[05:13] <jeff_> hey guys
[05:13] <opnsrc> there it is
[05:13] <opnsrc> thanks
[05:13] <HappyFool> dylan_: isn't that only for http proxies?
[05:13] <jeff_> im having a problem with the 'calendar' section of evolution
[05:13] <ardzeii> opnsrc: Happy to help. :)
[05:14] <Ethan> I am trying to install flash but the *.deb is not found and I gess I have the multiverse....
[05:14] <dylan_> HappyFool, i dont know what kind of proxy i have..
[05:14] <kitsune> Zedugh, Okay, I'll see what I can find
[05:14] <dylan_> HappyFool, im new to this
[05:14] <opnsrc> great
[05:14] <opnsrc> thanks
[05:14] <opnsrc> I also added gnuchess
[05:14] <HappyFool> dylan_: i think the correct terminology for your router is 'gateway'
[05:14] <erUSUL> dylan_, you have to enable nat in the router. it has nothing to do with proxy setttings dsl and the like routers usually does not run proxys.
[05:14] <HappyFool> ah-ha
[05:14] <HappyFool> someone who knows, thank goodness
[05:15] <opnsrc> now it says no targets specified
[05:15] <opnsrc> or no makefile fonud
[05:15] <dylan_> erUSUL, can you help me do so?
[05:15] <opnsrc> Uhm.... I tried make install
[05:15] <HappyFool> opnsrc: what are you trying to compile/install?
[05:15] <opnsrc> xboard
[05:15] <HappyFool> isn't xboard in the repos?
[05:16] <sabmann> when I try to run totem I get an error: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. But i'm definitely not using totem..
[05:16] <opnsrc> I can't find it
[05:16] <opnsrc> it's a chess game
[05:16] <HappyFool> opnsrc: it's in the 'universe' repository
[05:16] <HappyFool> !tell opnsrc about repos
[05:16] <ardzeii> opnsrc: Try to configure it first. If it doesn't need configurations, try make, then make install.
[05:16] <dooglus> I click the 'system' menu, then 'preferences', and then, before I can move down to find the thing I want, both menus close again.  what could be closing them?
[05:16] <opnsrc> I tried ./configure
[05:16] <dylan_> erUSUL, im logged into my router
[05:16] <erUSUL> dylan_, i do not know the exact problem. which programs you have problems with??
[05:16] <HappyFool> compiling it will be much more effort than just installing xboard from universe
[05:16] <HappyFool> you'll need x development libs etc etc
[05:17] <dylan_> erUSUL, gtk-gnutella and Gaim
[05:17] <opnsrc> thanks
[05:17] <dylan_> erUSUL, maybe more, but i dont know at this time
[05:17] <erUSUL> dylan_, i do not know wich router do you have so i can not know how to enable nat in it and open ports in the firewall. this is something you will have to read in docs
[05:18] <ardzeii> opnsrc: I agree with HappyFool. You're better off installing it through Synaptic (if you're having problems compiling it).
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[06:01] (xjlittle/#ubuntu) spazzz: scroll down to Desktop and Windows
[06:01] (herzi/#ubuntu) mp3guy: there are two: and as i don't own that notebook, i'm not a fan of trial and error
[06:01] (spazzz/#ubuntu) ardzeii i got an error once about it failing or something, accidentally didn't hit save and it's been gone since
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) llODxCOll: then you've miscopied the url
[06:02] (xjlittle/#ubuntu) spazzz: choose show desktop
[06:02] (llODxCOll/#ubuntu) i copied and pasted it
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) llODxCOll: don't copy the bracket at the end
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) err
[06:02] (spazzz/#ubuntu) where is this again?
[06:02] (ardzeii/#ubuntu) spazzz: Then right click on the panel, choose Add to Panel, then add the Show Desktop icon.
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) oh, that's only in my version
[06:02] (llODxCOll/#ubuntu) it redirects me to wiki.ubuntu.com/sshhowto
[06:02] (Xenguy/#ubuntu) Hi - does anyone know Ubuntu's GNOME desktop well enough to answer this interface question: how can I list *all* apps in *all* workspaces?  Do I need an extra plug-in or not?
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) llODxCOll: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/SSHHowto
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) llODxCOll: ah, my apologies
[06:02] (xjlittle/#ubuntu) spazzz: right click on the toolbar on the bottom of the page
[06:02] (spazzz/#ubuntu) aah
[06:02] (spazzz/#ubuntu) thanks
[06:02] (HappyFool/#ubuntu) llODxCOll: i translated it in my head, sorry
[06:02] (ogami1972/#ubuntu) ok- the three erros are: "failed to find mixer element ADC", "sample format not available" and "failed to open pcm device (hw:2,0)"
[06:03] (xerophyte/#ubuntu) i am just wondering how can i  upgrade the FC4 box to fedora i have lots of data on the box so just wondering is there any ways to do it :(
[06:03] (llODxCOll/#ubuntu) ok thanks
[06:03] (qjimbo/#ubuntu) Basically, I need to move ubuntu to another harddrive
[06:03] <qjimbo> preferebly having the root inside another folder if thats possible
[06:03] <qjimbo> but I don't know where to start @_@
[06:04] <needvpn> I have a standard ubuntu installation.  How can I get a program to run whenever a USB device (a mass storage device) is connected to the computer (I want to automatically copy the data off it)
[06:04] <ogami1972> beb back
[06:05] <dooglus> Xenguy: see the little row of horizontal lines just to the left of the window list at the bottom of the screen?  right-click it and say preferences.  you can then tick 'show windows from all workspaces'
[06:05] <Xenguy> dooglus: checking...
[06:06] <qjimbo> oh yeah, thats pretty cool
[06:06] <stratovarius> guys why cant I create a link to a folder?
[06:06] <erUSUL> qjimbo, another folder???
[06:06] <skaja> how do i install cvs
[06:06] <skaja> err and download
[06:06] <m_akys> I can't copy original DVDs with k3b. It says: Cannot copy encrypted dvds
[06:06] <dooglus> stratovarius: you can only use symbolic links when linking to folders
[06:06] <dooglus> stratovarius: hard links are only for files
[06:07] <HappyFool> skaja: sudo aptitude install cvs
[06:07] <m_akys> anyone knows how to solve it?
[06:07] <qjimbo> erUSUL: yeah I want to move / into a folder on /dev/hda instead of /dev/hdb
[06:07] <stratovarius> dooglus:I gotta create a link to a folder in an other folder
[06:07] <qjimbo> and then configure grub to boot from it
[06:07] <stratovarius> how can I do?
[06:07] <erUSUL> qjimbo, you mean another partition.
[06:07] <qjimbo> I'll happily leave the swap partition on dev/hdb though
[06:07] <qjimbo> yeah
[06:07] <dooglus> stratovarius: "ln -s /folder/you/want/to/link/to /where/you/want/the/link"
[06:07] <feugan3333> erUSUL: chroot was the command I was looking for :-)
[06:07] <llODxCOll> someone wants to access my ssh server from the internet and i need to set that up step by step...can someone tell me how
[06:08] <stratovarius> dooglus tnx
[06:08] <m_akys> I can't copy original DVDs with k3b. It says: Cannot copy encrypted dvds. I need help
[06:09] <erUSUL> !tell m_akys about dvd
[06:09] <dooglus> !tell m_akys about how to become a l33t pirate
[06:09] <qjimbo> XD
[06:09] <idiot> m_akys i have the same problem
[06:09] <HappyFool> heh
[06:09] <HappyFool> aar, matey
[06:09] <idiot> !tell m_akys about how to become a l33t pirate
[06:09] <popey> YARRRRRR!
[06:09] <idiot> lol
[06:09] <idiot> Ill tell u
[06:09] <idiot> apt-get install vobcopy
[06:09] <xjlittle> llODxCOll: if it isn't exposed to the internet you will need to forward port 22 to the ssh server
[06:09] <idiot> it gets the css encryption from the disc
[06:10] <llODxCOll> how do i do that
[06:10] <xjlittle> llODxCOll: if it is exposed they simply need to connect to the public ip
[06:10] <dooglus> I was playing with "knockd" yesterday.  that works quite nicely.  you can get it to only expose port 22 after a secret 'port knock' has been received :)
[06:10] <qjimbo> llODxCOll: you'll have to access your routers control panel
[06:11] <qjimbo> if you have a router
[06:11] <llODxCOll> how?
[06:11] <m_akys> idiot: I have my original DVD and I want a backup of it, but I can't do it with k3b
[06:11] <xjlittle> llODxCOll: you'll have to read your router's manual-different for all makes of routers
[06:11] <qjimbo> well on my router I go to 192.168.0.1
[06:11] <qjimbo> from a web browser
[06:11] <dooglus> llODxCOll: http://www.portforward.com/ is very good for getting help with port forwaring
[06:11] <erUSUL> qjimbo, boot from a live cd and mount the to partitions and then copy eveything from one to another '(cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)
[06:11] <llODxCOll> ok
[06:11] <erUSUL> ' will do the trick then update all things fstab grub etc to boot from the other partition
[06:12] <qjimbo> ooh right
[06:12] <stratovarius> dooglus: i'm tring to add a link in a ftp server so I linked a folder to /home/ftp but if I connect to my ftp server and I try to open that link it says me: 550 failed to change directory.how could I solve the problem?
[06:12] <dooglus> stratovarius: try in a shell to cd through the link.  does that work?
[06:13] <dooglus> stratovarius: just "cd /home/ftp" and see if you can see the files you're trying to share
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> stratovarius,  ftp servers often have a security 'feature' where they will NOT follow 'links'
[06:13] <stratovarius> dooglus:i dworks
[06:13] <erUSUL> stratovarius, for security reasons ftp server won't let you change directories or follow links
[06:14] <stratovarius> isnt there a way to solve this rpoblem?
[06:14] <dooglus> stratovarius: what FTP server is it?
[06:14] <stratovarius> i cant copy all the files to share in a new dir
[06:14] <stratovarius> vsftpd
[06:14] <dooglus> stratovarius: check the config file for the work 'link'
[06:14] <stratovarius> ok I'll check
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - read the docs for the ftp server :P
[06:15] <qjimbo> so erUSUL, how would I reconfigure grub to boot ubuntu from a folder called 'ubuntu' on /dev/hda?
[06:15] <qjimbo> so it would like, see that folder as the root
[06:15] <stratovarius> dogglus: i check in the /etc/vsftpd.conf file but there is no line with link as word
[06:16] <Projext> anyone with a wrt54g know the default router ip
[06:17] <dooglus> stratovarius: I don't see it either.
[06:17] <stratovarius> dooglus: so what do I have to do?
[06:17] <dooglus> stratovarius: perhaps vsftpd is using an account which can't cd to that place.  try making the permissions more - um - permissible?
[06:18] <feugan3333> Projext: think its 192.168.1.1
[06:18] <Projext> thanks
[06:18] <dooglus> stratovarius: what login are you using when connecting to the ftp server? anon?  or what?
[06:18] <stratovarius> dogglus: root is the proprietary of the dir to share.cant 'be that the problem?
[06:18] <feugan3333> Projext: or 192.168.0.1 :-)
[06:18] <stratovarius> dooglus:anonymous
[06:19] <dooglus> stratovarius: I doubt if being owned by root would be the problem, so long as the dir is readable and executable by others. and the files are readable by others
[06:19] <stratovarius> dooglus:they are
[06:19] <dooglus> stratovarius: I'm trying it now.
[06:19] <feugan3333> Does anyone know how I could completely reinstall a package (eg grub)
[06:19] <stratovarius> ok
[06:20] <shingoki> 64 bit ubuntu has lots of weirdness, right? it's not just me?
[06:20] <dooglus> stratovarius: it fails for me too.  hang on a while & I'll see wha\t's happening
[06:20] <shingoki> like, stuff not running because it can't find the libraries, even though they are there?
[06:20] <feugan3333> 64 bit software has lots of weirdness
[06:20] <stratovarius> dooglus: tnx 4 the help I'll wait 4 u
[06:21] <shingoki> So I can just install the 32 bit version instead?
[06:21] <shingoki> I think I might do that
[06:22] <dooglus> stratovarius: I think what's going on is that the server is running inside a "chroot"
[06:22] <dooglus> stratovarius: so the /home/strat/... folder you're linking to doesn't exist, effectively
[06:23] <feugan3333> This is an interesting message from apt-get:
[06:23] <feugan3333> Need to get 0B/356kB of archives.
[06:23] <feugan3333> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[06:23] <Seveas> feugan3333, that's a quite normal message
[06:23] <erUSUL> qjimbo, you have to think about partitions not folders. grub uses (hd0,0) for /dev/hda1 and (hd1,1) for /dev/hdb2 from that you can figure out what to put in menu.lst to boot from the partition you want. this is fairly advanced stuff if you are not comfortable doing it you better not do it
[06:23] <nalioth> feugan3333: it's a top secret physics anomoly known only to linux users. SSSHHHH
[06:23] <Seveas> it means that the new version of what you are installing is as large as the old one
[06:24] <qjimbo> eep
[06:24] <Seveas> oop
[06:24] <stratovarius> dooglus:how to solve?
[06:24] <qjimbo> XD
[06:25] <Xenguy> dooglus: thanks for that tip.  It works for me, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for (I'd like to have the task bar list only apps in a given workspace, then be able to invoke separately a complete list of all apps, as in xfce4 or wmaker middle-click)
[06:26] <dooglus> stratovarius: that's what's happening.  while connected to the ftp server, run "for i in $(pgrep vsftpd); do ls -l /proc/$i/root; done".  you'll see one of the processes has a root of /home/ftp.  perhaps you can ask the ftp server not to chroot.  it's more of a security risk that way though.  alternatively, maybe you can ask it to chroot to the dir you want to share instead...
[06:26] <feugan3333> I don't suppose that its possible to umount the cdrom while using the live cd, is it?
[06:27] <El_Che> idd
[06:27] <stratovarius> dooglus: I cant understand.what should I do?
[06:27] <erUSUL> feugan3333, why would you want to do so?
[06:28] <dooglus> stratovarius: I'm still looking.  just a moment.
[06:28] <stratovarius> ok
[06:28] <dooglus> Xenguy: there's a 'window list' app or something which you can 'add to panel' after right-clicking on a bit of empty panel.  i don't use it, but it might be what you want
[06:29] <feugan3333> erUSUL so I can insert my Breezy install cd
[06:29] <xjlittle> feugan3333: are you wanting to reinstall or rescue your existing system?
[06:29] <erUSUL> feugan3333, why would you want to do so? (mount the install cd) ;)
[06:29] <Xenguy> dooglus: thanks again for your tip; I will double-check on that
[06:30] <feugan3333> Because I'm reinstalling grub, from a chroot terminal and it asking me to insert the install cd but the live cd is still in the drive :-)
[06:31] <ogami1972> ok- i'm really close to sorting this sound thing out- my current error is "Warning- alsa_setup(): sample format not available for playback: invalid argument"
[06:31] <cifer> hmm what do i need to run 32bit software with amd64 system?
[06:31] <feugan3333> I'm supposed to be the one asking the questions!
[06:31] <moox> Why using sound under linux is very complicated ? arts, gstreamer, xine, oss, alsa, etc... ?
[06:31] <feugan3333> :-)
[06:31] <mwe> on my laptop I have a windows partition and a ubuntu partition. now I want to get rid of the windows partition and have one large partition for ubuntu. is that possible without reinstalling?
[06:31] <erUSUL> feugan3333, disable the cd from sources.lst do an update and install from inet
[06:31] <ogami1972> and "warning: alsa_setup( hw:0,0)-failed to open pcm device: device or resource busy"
[06:32] <feugan3333> erUSUL, good idea.
[06:32] <qjimbo> :( inside menu.lst "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash" I bet if I changed it to "/ubuntu/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1" it wouldn't work and same with  "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1/ubuntu" >_< I'm gonna have to rumage through loads of config stuff for this I bet
[06:32] <dooglus> stratovarius: do you only want to share one directory?
[06:32] <stratovarius> dooglus: yes I do
[06:32] <xjlittle> cifer: running 32 bit on amd 64 "just works" for me
[06:32] <dooglus> stratovarius: edit /etc/vsftpd.conf and add a line at the end saying anon_root=/home/chris/Desktop
[06:32] <jesus> lk
[06:32] <dooglus> (or whatever dir you want to share)
[06:33] <erUSUL> feugan3333, asking i was able to find the right solution XD
[06:33] <jesus> hello
[06:33] <dooglus> stratovarius: then "sudo invoke-rc.d vsftpd restart"
[06:33] <dooglus> stratovarius: (to restart the ftp server - don't know if you need to, but it won't hurt)
[06:34] <erUSUL> qjimbo, you have to put the (hdx,x) that correspond to the partition mounted under ../ubuntu
[06:34] <feugan3333> erUSUL: I'll be amazed if this works :-)
[06:34] <qjimbo> yeah I have done
[06:35] <stratovarius> dooglus
[06:35] <dooglus> Xenguy: it's called "Window Selector", not "Window List"
[06:35] <stratovarius> done all u said
[06:35] <dooglus> stratovarius?
[06:35] <qjimbo> I've noticed hd(0,0) is the drive it boots from, even if it's technically IDE1
[06:35] <feugan3333> Thanks you all for your help.
[06:35] <stratovarius> I did what u said now do I have to open my server ftp?
[06:35] <cifer> hmm i thought there is a special command ... i cant start cedega coz of 64bit ...
[06:35] <ogami1972> is there an "alsa_setup" file? if so where?
[06:36] <dooglus> stratovarius: you edited the conf file and restarted the ftp server?  that should be all you need to do.
[06:36] <huggys> Anyone know much about Presario 1700 laptops
[06:36] <dooglus> stratovarius: you can remove the link from /home/ftp using "rm".  it won't use /home/ftp anymore
[06:36] <erUSUL> ogami1972, you can writte your own .alsarc check alsa-project.org
[06:37] <stratovarius> dooglus:im trying to connect to my ftp server with firefox
[06:37] <dooglus> stratovarius: try using the command-line "ftp localhost" first
[06:37] <ogami1972> i have- i will again- it's just not very user-friendly- assumes i know alot more about linux than i do
[06:37] <softwarepirate> Hello.
[06:38] <stratovarius> dooglus: ftp> ls
[06:38] <stratovarius> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
[06:38] <stratovarius> 150 Here comes the directory listing.
[06:38] <stratovarius> lrwxrwxrwx    1 0        0              18 Nov 26 17:09 Audio -> /mnt/windows/Audio
[06:38] <stratovarius> 226 Directory send OK.
[06:38] <dooglus> stratovarius: it's looking like you didn't edit the .conf file correctly, or didn't restart the ftp server.
[06:39] <softwarepirate> ...
[06:39] <dooglus> stratovarius: do a "tail -3 /etc/vsftp*" and pastebin it.
[06:39] <stratovarius> dooglus:pvt so I dont paste here ad I send u a link of my config
[06:39] <dooglus> stratovarius: pvt is ok
[06:40] <huggys> If anyone is familiar with laptop drivers can you please direct chat with me
[06:40] <kismet> when you install a package, how do you know where it goes? I mean, I just installed VSFTPD, but can't find it or it's config files
[06:40] <juliux> hi all
[06:40] <softwarepirate> Can someone help me? Um xvidtune, dont work.
[06:40] <HappyFool> kismet: try 'dpkg -L vsftpd'
[06:40] <juliux> i have a problem with gutenprint as you can see here http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/656 can someone help me ?
[06:40] <HappyFool> kismet: synaptic also lists the files (can't remember where)
[06:40] <xerophyte> how do i turn the ssh on the desktop do i have to remove the file /etc/ssh something or is there any standard way to enable it
[06:42] <kismet> HappyFool: thanks =)
[06:44] <luisito> I have breezy installed, later I installed the kubuntu-desktop, later on, one day when I powered on the pc  it shows the kubuntu startup boot image instead the ubuntu one. How I change that to ubuntu's default?
[06:46] <cifer> is there any way to run cedega when i have a 64bit system? (the package is for i386 system only)
[06:46] <f_newton> has ubuntu breezy got a java yet?
[06:47] <blanky> what happens when you have a tar.gz that you're not supposed to build, instead it has a folder called usr, and inside one called bin, lib, etc., do you just put the files in those folders in the corresponding folders on your pc?
[06:47] <walde> I am just playing around with luks. Is there a way to mount a device with luks-support via cryptdisks-script?
[06:48] <softwarepirate> Can anyone help me learn how to align my screen in ubuntu?
[06:48] <blanky> what happens when you have a tar.gz that you're not supposed to build, instead it has a folder called usr, and inside one called bin, lib, etc., do you just put the files in those folders in the corresponding folders on your pc?
[06:48] <blanky> in nautilus how can I make it have an address bar
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  its like some alt-a or some key combo.
[06:49] <f_newton> hmmmm...
[06:49] <blanky> :(
[06:49] <blanky> blanky what happens when you have a tar.gz that you're not supposed to build, instead it has a folder called usr, and inside one called bin, lib, etc., do you just put the files in those folders in the corresponding folders on your pc?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  not seen a way to make it always use the address bar.
[06:50] <blanky> ah, can you answer my previous question, if you can?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> as for your tar.gz.. i'd be VERY suspect at a program thats distributed in such a way
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> you can perhaps cd to / and untar it fom there and stuff MAY go in the right spots.
[06:51] <Lewis> Hello
[06:51] <blanky> about that, if I do that, it wont override the folders with the folders I have right, but instead just put the files in the folder
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  correct.
[06:51] <blanky> okay, thanks
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> if it actually deleted the folders and  did it that way.. it'd be like the old BEOS (which was a BIG annoyance)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:52] <blanky> :) thanks buddy!
[06:52] <difeta> I'm sshed into my box, how can I load a proram on tha active X display?
[06:52] <Lewis> I need help - i want to install ubuntu, as my perminant OS, as it is faster, and better than MS, but, the only draw-back, is, i have a broadband connection, and, the CD that installs the modem driver (thompson speedtouch330) is a .exe file, and wont install on linux
[06:53] <Lewis> i have asked my ISP about this, and they dont know what i mean...
[06:53] <Elsan> Can anyone tell me of a good free download manager for Ubuntu/Firefox?
[06:53] <Lewis> i asked a friend. and i was told to ask you guys
[06:54] <Lewis> Can antbody help me please?
[06:54] <Lewis> *anybody
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> I used Prozilla ages ago.. then ya got curl, and wget.. and front ends to them
[06:54] <HappyFool> Lewis: a good place to start is wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> I cant think of any NON-Free ones. :P
[06:54] <Lewis> OK, i'll check it out...
[06:54] <asimon> Lewis: There is a speedtouch HOWTO in the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44763 , maybe that will help you
[06:55] <mcfergus> Lewis, check out http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net
[06:55] <SGershon> !codec
[06:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, SGershon
[06:55] <mcfergus> wish it helps
[06:55] <Knight_Lord> Does ubuntu has all the packages of debian?
[06:55] <HappyFool> Lewis: hmm, this looks useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo
[06:55] <HappyFool> Knight_Lord: many
[06:56] <softwarepirate> Can anyone tell me how to align my screen?
[06:56] <Knight_Lord> HappyFool i'm thinking on replacing the debian on my laptop by ubuntu
[06:56] <SGershon> HiddenFly, how it was that I ask ubotu to help me in private? I forgot...
[06:56] <HappyFool> Knight_Lord: i'd recommend checking on packages.ubuntu.com for packages of particular interest
[06:57] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[06:57] <justin_> is there anything else i have to do?
[06:57] <Knight_Lord> HappyFool ok thanks
[06:57] <griffin_> I found some help installing my lexmark z600 in ubuntu, on a personal website for debian.  It should really be in the wiki...how does that get done without plagarizing?
[06:57] <blanky> hey guys
[06:57] <blanky> I was running something in cedega, but it didnt work so I did CTRL ALT DEL to kill the process, but now my whole desktop is in that resolution
[06:57] <HappyFool> griffin_: e-mail the author of the page for permission. maybe he's already got notice releasing the text on his site
[06:58] <blanky> is there something else I must've done? is there a way to minimize a window (like windows key in windows)
[06:58] <Lewis> what is a .deb file?
[06:58] <Knight_Lord> HappyFool does Ubuntu also works with a system like unstable testing stable?
[06:58] <griffin_> HappyFool: good idea, I will follow that up
[06:58] <HappyFool> Knight_Lord: i'm not too familiar with debian, but i don't think ubuntu is the same
[06:58] <SGershon> Quick question: How it was that I ask ubotu to help me in private? I forgot...
[06:59] <psychocat> ubuntu is derived from debian
[06:59] <ardzeii> SGershon: Send him a private mesage.
[06:59] <ardzeii> "him".
[06:59] <HappyFool> Knight_Lord: we generally recommend people use the latest stable release (currently breezy). The development release is really intended for developer and bug-hunters
[06:59] <blanky> you /msg tell bot something
[06:59] <Lewis> how do i open a .bed file in Microsoft XP?
[06:59] <Lewis> *.deb
[07:00] <Xenguy> dooglus: 'window-selector' is the right idea - thanks again.  It would be nice if it identified the workspace numbers also, but this is 'good enough' :-)
[07:00] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[07:00] <justin_> justin_ is there anything else i have to do?
[07:00] <Elsan> Can anyone tell me of a good free download manager for Ubuntu/Firefox with a WORKING pause feature?
[07:00] <william> where is that list of the latest repositories? and what file do I need to edit to change them again...
[07:00] <Knight_Lord> Lewis you don't
[07:00] <Lewis> oh
[07:00] <HappyFool> Lewis: a .deb file is a debian package file; it's how software is distributed for ubuntu (and debian, etc.). Why do you want to open it in XP ?
[07:00] <psychocat> william: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <HappyFool> !tell william about repos
[07:01] <Lewis> because it says so in the instructions
[07:01] <Lewis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo
[07:01] <dooglus> Xenguy: good :)
[07:01] <blanky> guys, is there a way to minimize a window with a key?
[07:01] <blanky> I tried windows key but no luck
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <ardzeii> Lewis: Reading the debian package's metadata is as far as I have encountered. Why would you open it in Windows, anyway?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <ardzeii> Wow.
[07:01] <justin_> ?
[07:01] <Knight_Lord> Lewis why does it say?
[07:01] <blanky> !kick justin_
[07:01] <ubotu> blanky: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:01] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[07:01] <justin_> justin_ is there anything else i have to do?
[07:02] <Lewis>  Download the modem firmware from [WWW]  the Alcatel web site and unpack it with the [WWW]  firmware extractor. If this looks complex, you can just download and install [WWW]  an unofficial firmware package (e.g.: dpkg -i speedtouch-firmware_0.3012k.deb).
[07:02] <Rawplayer> RE
[07:02] <Lewis> it says that ^^
[07:02] <blanky> also, it's cause I was running a game in cedega, something happened so I did CTRL+ALT+DEL, killed 'wine' process, but now I have this weird resolution
[07:02] <HappyFool> Lewis: they mean to do that in ubuntu ;)
[07:02] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[07:02] <justin_> justin_ is there anything else i have to do?
[07:02] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[07:02] <justin_> justin_ is there anything else i have to do?
[07:02] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[07:02] <justin_> justin_ is there anything else i have to do?
[07:02] <Lewis> oh
[07:02] <justin_> anyone i've setup openssh-server and forwarded port 22 but when the remore user tries to connect it just hangs there
[07:02] <Lewis> right
[07:02] <HappyFool> justin_: please don't repeat yourself
[07:02] <justin_> justin_ is there anything else i have to do?
[07:02] <HappyFool> aargh
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  yea - that sucks.. may have to exit out of X
[07:02] <sybariten> quick question
[07:02] <sybariten> can i somehow prevent ubuntu from starting up that brown gnome login screen?
[07:03] <blanky> Dr_Willis, thanks doctor! :)
[07:03] <sybariten> i do the three finger salute to exit X, but it goes back to login screen all the time
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> sybariten,  disable the gdm service
[07:03] <sybariten> i need this in order to have the screen turned off physically ....  it never turns off in X
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> sybariten,  then login and use 'startx' as ya want.
[07:03] <Knight_Lord> justin_ how did you forwarded the port?
[07:03] <varsendagger> hello
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> turning off in X is an apci/screensaver/power setting in the control panels.
[07:03] <justin_> through the internet
[07:04] <justin_> i connected to my ip
[07:04] <sybariten> and this machine needs to run all day all night, so i probably save a few kilowatts by not having the screen use any power
[07:04] <nalioth> justin_: explain the pasting please?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> sybariten,  could just hit the power button on the monitor.
[07:04] <justin_> and the sttings were all right thee
[07:04] <Knight_Lord> justin_ what software, what comand line?
[07:04] <justin_> lynksys router
[07:04] <justin_> idk commandline?
[07:04] <ale3hs_> hello, my sound was ok, and i reboot linux and know says that "failed to construct pipeline" ..I dont have a clue whats goin on.. anyone can help how I can fix the sound?
[07:04] <sybariten> Dr_Willis: is that the same as disabling the gdm service ?
[07:04] <navarone> sybariten> if you want a terminal without x started press ctrl-alt-<backspace> to get to login and then pres ctrl+alt+F1 button to get to text login and login there...no x started
[07:04] <Knight_Lord> justin_ then it's a linksys problem
[07:04] <varsendagger> i have Fubuntu  and i have another partition ready for another os, what should i put on there?
[07:04] <william> How can I get Firefox RC3 installed on my Ubuntu system?
[07:04] <blanky> doctor doctor! if I log out to login screen will that work?
[07:04] <blanky> or must I restart
[07:05] <wegstar> how can I install ncurses?
[07:05] <justin_> are you sure/
[07:05] <nalioth> wegstar: it should be installed
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> sybariten,  no gdm = no X fancy login.  just a console man!
[07:05] <psychocat> william: check the wiki for ubuntu, there's a how to for it
[07:05] <nalioth> justin_: did you read the /topic when you came into the channel?
[07:05] <sybariten> navarone: i think that is what i did the last time i started this machine! it ran nicely for 30 days or something, and now i cant figure how the hell i got into a pure console that time. I had to move it from one wardrobe to another, and tonight i finally took the bull by its horn and move the whole shebang
[07:06] <justin_> no?
[07:06] <qjimbo> well it seems booting linux from a folder on a harddisk is impossible, amazing something that seems so simple is so hard
[07:06] <SGershon> It is just me, or imdb.com doesn't load movie pages on linux firefox? What could be the reason?
[07:06] <sybariten> however, when i do ctrl-alt-backspace, i get a login promopt in shell for like a few seconds, and then it goes back to X
[07:06] <sybariten> theres some kinda loop there
[07:06] <nalioth> justin_: the /topic asks that you not paste in here, it's considered rude and disruptive
[07:06] <william> which Wiki psychocat ?
[07:06] <justin_> woops
[07:06] <wegstar> nalioth: but when I try to compile a ncurses program it says that ncurses.h or something isn't found..
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> sybariten,  yes.. thats the GDM service restarting.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> sybariten,  ya could just do a alt-ctrl-F1 and get to the console. :P
[07:06] <nalioth> wegstar: ah, you need libncurses<something>-dev
[07:07] <wegstar> ok
[07:07] <sybariten> AAAAAAH!
[07:07] <qjimbo> Dr_Willis: like something you see here buddy? XD
[07:07] <sybariten> i've been trying only alt-F1 i believe, (this time) !
[07:07] <sybariten> i probably did alt-ctrl-F1 the other time ... that should work from the X login prompt ?
[07:07] <psychocat> william: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[07:07] <felipe_> hola
[07:07] <felipe_> hola
[07:08] <wegstar> ook.. I got it, thanks
[07:08] <felipe_> hola
[07:08] <blanky> hola felipe_ , por favor ve a #ubuntu-es
[07:08] <blanky> Alli hablan espaol
[07:08] <felipe_> ya
[07:08] <justin_> what do you people do for a living
[07:08] <varsendagger> --- i'm an electrician  i hate it
[07:09] <ale3hs_> please someone, I have problem with my sound card, and I dont know how to fix it
[07:09] <varsendagger> ale3hs_, what's going on?
[07:09] <varsendagger> i battled with my soundcard yesterday and won
[07:09] <varsendagger> justin_, what do you do?
[07:09] <nalioth> justin_: you can have your general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:10] <nalioth> varsendagger: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:10] <ale3hs_> varsendagger, my sound was ok, and when I reboot, says a problem with pipeline
[07:10] <justin_> i live with my mom
[07:10] <sybariten> Dr_Willis, navarone: thank you!!
[07:10] <sellout_> when the system first reboots (this is a breezey install) what scripts does it run on boot?
[07:10] <justin_> in the basement
[07:10] <navarone> sybariten> np
[07:10] <justin_> i sit and look at porno all day
[07:10] <justin_> basically
[07:10] <sellout_> my network wasn't up so the second part of the install failed
[07:10] <justin_> and do this
[07:10] <psychocat> thanks nalioth
[07:11] <ale3hs_> varsendagger, the only thing I did before i reboot was to change the sound from OSS to alsa
[07:11] <varsendagger> sorry i was encouraging him.... not really i'm not going to apoligize,
[07:11] <psychocat> ale3hs_: why did you change it?
[07:11] <ale3hs_> varsendagger, and when I was test it, it freezed.. but the I changed back to OSS
[07:11] <navarone> ale3hs> try changing back to oss and see if it helps
[07:12] <ale3hs_> psychocat, coz I could play to videos 2gether and to have sound in both
[07:12] <varsendagger> ale3hs_, yeah what navarone said
[07:12] <ale3hs_> navarone, I did that .. still nothing
[07:12] <varsendagger> hmmm
[07:12] <ale3hs_> navarone, except if i have to reboot again to work
[07:13] <varsendagger> you might need to rebot it again
[07:13] <navarone> ale3hs> possiblt...but I dont see linux requiring extenisive rebooting for something like sound...maybe wrong in this case tho...try
[07:13] <psychocat> ale3hs_: you could also try the alsa wrapper for OSS , might work for that
[07:14] <jeff_> hey guyds
[07:14] <jeff_> im having a problem with the calendar section in evolution
[07:14] <ale3hs_> psychocat : alsa wrapper 4 OSS ??
[07:14] <jeff_> can anyone help?
[07:14] <psychocat> yep
[07:14] <varsendagger> jeff_, what's happening?
[07:15] <ale3hs_> psychocat, how can i sent something to my sound device ?? to check if it works?
[07:15] <navarone> Anyone have experience using text filters...? The ones you pass text thru to make funny ouput...like Swedish chef? I want to try to see how it works but cannot figure how to direct file to go thru filter and make output file...any1?
[07:15] <psychocat> go back to using alsa and apt-get the alsa-oss wrapper.  maybe that'l work for what you need
[07:15] <jeff_> varsendadder: everything in evolution works fine, but when i click the calendar, it crashes
[07:15] <william> Okay, I just tried to install Firefox 1.5rc3 well it didnt work.. so I removed firefox from the system using apt-get remove firefox... then I re-installed but now firefox wont work, it starts to run then stops
[07:16] <varsendagger> william you probably need to change a config file for mozilla firefox
[07:16] <navarone> willaim> go to synaptic and remove any pakages that still have config files...basically choose complete removal..that may be the cause
[07:16] <varsendagger> --- other than that i don't know
[07:16] <psychocat> ale3hs_: you could go to system -> preferences -> sound and play a sound
[07:16] <dueyfinste1> How do you mount a USB disk in amaroK? I am using Gnome, not Kubuntu. I tried:
[07:16] <dueyfinste1> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usbdisk
[07:16] <william> well when I type firefox in terminal it says "error loading shared librarys"
[07:16] <william> ohh ok
[07:17] <william> thanks
[07:17] <williak> hey everyone. I'm making progress on getting ubuntu running on my system. I had success but now I get grub error 17. can someone help?
[07:17] <psychocat> dueyfinte1: did you mkdir for /media/usbdisk?
[07:17] <ale3hs_> psychocat, it doesnt see my sound card
[07:18] <jeff_> varsendagger: you there man/
[07:18] <jeff_> ?
[07:18] <Lewis> This coding thing for the internet connection on ubuntu is hard
[07:18] <Lewis> :(
[07:18] <gimmulf> Hi, i would like to have fluxbox for Ubuntu with Xinerama compilled into, could someone help me with this
[07:18] <krabador> great!!!!
[07:19] <krabador> i'm here witha livecd !!!!
[07:19] <williak> so am I. The Grub boot loader is not working
[07:20] <Lewis> does anybody have any other websites, with instructions to help with connecting to the internet, using a speedtouch330  modem for ubuntu?
[07:20] <dueyfinste1> psychocat: no how do you do that?
[07:20] <SGershon> krabador, how nice! Everything's working out-of-the-box? Audio, video, network?
[07:20] <Lewis> as the current ons a re hard
[07:20] <Lewis> *are
[07:20] <dueyfinste1> psychocat, how do you mkdir? for /media/usbdisk
[07:20] <psychocat> dueyfinste1: open a terminal and type 'sudo mkdir /media/usbdisk
[07:20] <krabador> SGershon : yes, all right!!! only a problem with mounting ntfs partition...
[07:21] <psychocat> dueyfinste1: without the ' at the beginning
[07:21] <CRS2117> I'm having a look for linux codecs, but I can't find anything on synaptic or automatix, and a google search for the one I wanted (Indeo) was a rpm
[07:22] <HappyFool> CRS2117: have you tried w32codecs?
[07:22] <ArDz> CRS2117, http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/
[07:22] <psychocat> ale3hs_: try this on a console and see what you get: alsamixer -c 0
[07:22] <CRS2117> no, not yet. Thankyou!
[07:22] <dueyfinste1> psychocat: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/usbdisk': File exists
[07:22] <HappyFool> !tell CRS2117 about w32codecs
[07:22] <HappyFool> they're not in the official repos, unfortunately
[07:22] <psychocat> dueyfinste1: ok so it's been created
[07:22] <SGershon> !codecs
[07:22] <ubotu> I heard codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:23] <CRS2117> Also, using the divx version I got from automatix, I'm getting a weird image error, is anyone else getting this, or is it because of the graphics card? (Sis745 AGP I think, something obscure)
[07:23] <Lewis> i'm going to try this new code that i found...whole reformat...but i'm not confident it will work...
[07:23] <myggan> I've messed up my fstab. I have to boot in recovery mode but the / system is only RO. So I can't restor my fstab. plz help me
[07:23] <ale3hs_> psychocat, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:0: No such file or directory
[07:23] <moaltmann> ALL: why does the installer (5.10) not check whether enough disk space is available? instead it simply quits to the console. This has rather large usability implications (esp. for newbies).
[07:24] <ale3hs_> psychocat, is like i dont have a sound device
[07:24] <HappyFool> moaltmann: probably best to file a bug (bugzilla.ubuntu.com)
[07:24] <psychocat> ale3hs_: yeah, that's what it looks like
[07:24] <varsendagger> jeff_, sorry
[07:24] <david__> tach
[07:24] <ale3hs_> psychocat, soo?
[07:24] <psychocat> ale3hs_: have you tried the forums, maybe something will come up there
[07:25] <moaltmann> HappyFool: i think i will -- unless someone submitted one, i'm just incredibly astonished. Ubuntu is not the most mature but definately a serious player in the linux world!
[07:25] <ale3hs_> psychocat, no, but there is any room in freenode that they deal with sound problems?? u know.. with alsa etc
[07:25] <williak> where is grub.conf after ubuntu 5.10 install
[07:25] <psychocat> ale3hs_: i don't know, sorry :(
[07:26] <Howdy125> myggan, sudo gedit
[07:26] <myggan> Howdy125, can't start GNOME
[07:26] <myggan> just shell
[07:27] <ale3hs_> psychocat, ubuntu has any hardware detector to check if it can see my sound card ?? it is integrated u know
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ale3hs_ about sound
[07:27] <varsendagger> gimmulf, what are you having trouple with? fluxbox or xinerama
[07:27] <ale3hs_> nalioth, thanx I ll check
[07:27] <Howdy125> myggan, what do you boot to ?
[07:28] <gimmulf> varsendagger:  im not having any troubles but im gonna use 2 screens which require Xinerama to work good
[07:28] <Lewis> i'm going to reformat now
[07:28] <Lewis> bye
[07:28] <myggan> Howdy125, ubuntu (recovery)
[07:28] <devilz> what is breezy and what is warty?
[07:29] <psychocat> ale3hs_: system -> administrator -> device manager
[07:29] <gimmulf> Which is the best image viewer, gqview?
[07:29] <nalioth> gimmulf: what is the best water to drink?
[07:29] <gimmulf> :)
[07:29] <Howdy125> myggan, can you use apt-get after booting recovery ?
[07:29] <navarone> ale3hs_>try in terminal aplay -l   this will list sound devices
[07:30] <myggan> Howdy125, yes
[07:30] <Xenguy> devilz: breezy == current Ubuntu version; warty == old 2nd last version
[07:30] <ale3hs_> navarone: aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[07:30] <ale3hs_> how that can be possible?
[07:31] <ale3hs_> I just reboot linux, before was everything ok
[07:31] <B166er> i'm on IRSSI and in recovery mode, i need help..please; i did a reboot and the X server wont load anymore (breezy normal install)
[07:31] <Howdy125> myggan, apt-get install mc .. then type mc to run it .. find the file you want to edit and press F4 to edit it then F2 to save it ..
[07:32] <B166er> although, at the startup, its was a 'xubuntu' splash screen... whats that ?
[07:32] <myggan> Howdy125, thx alot! Will try
[07:32] <Howdy125> myggan, ..yw ..good luck ...
[07:32] <navarone> ale3hs> is your soundcard a usb one or pci?
[07:33] <B166er> help ..
[07:33] <psychocat> navarone: it's built into the mb
[07:33] <navarone> ahh
[07:33] <matrice64> has anybody used quicktime 4 linux on breezy ?
[07:34] <Howdy125> myggan, you might have to do .. sudo mc .. to get right access .. I'm not sure ..
[07:34] <Slackwise> Yea, anyone know how to get MOV's playing in gstreamer?
[07:34] <B166er> can someone help me put a finger on my problem ? i cannot load the X server anymore, on a breezy ubuntu, altough since my last try, the splash screen shows xubuntu
[07:34] <myggan> Howdy125, I don't have Write permission even with sudu. Can I use atp-get and put it someware else?
[07:35] <nalioth> matrice64: is that anything to do with libquicktime1 ?
[07:35] <nalioth> Slackwise: install libquicktime1
[07:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Slackwise about multimedia
[07:35] <matrice64> nalioth, I'm not sure I'm trying to find out before I install it
[07:35] <matrice64> I want to view quicktime file formats
[07:35] <nalioth> matrice64: the reason i ask, i've never hear of quicktime for linux, got a link?
[07:36] <adamy> i have ubuntu and i wanna have an ssh server on it, how do i do that?
[07:36] <Amaranth> quicktime 4 wouldn't play anything now anyway
[07:36] <Amaranth> !info openssh-server
[07:36] <ubotu> openssh-server: (Secure shell server, an rshd replacement), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 190 kB, Installed size: 512 kB
[07:36] <matrice64> nalioth, http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3
[07:36] <nictuku> adamy, sudo aptitude install ssh
[07:37] <varsendagger> i've gotten mov to play with mplayer
[07:37] <nalioth> matrice64: i believe you'll be on your own with that one
[07:37] <matrice64> :P
[07:37] <Howdy125> myggan,  thats the only option I can think of .. I'm sure someone here has another short of using another distros livecd ..
[07:37] <nalioth> matrice64: but thank you for the link
[07:37] <a> Hm
[07:38] <myggan> Howdy125, thx for your time!
[07:38] <Howdy125> myggan, yw
[07:38] <B166er> helppp please, i still cannot load X,    the error message says 'no screen found'
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell B166er about fixres
[07:39] <psychocat> !fixres
[07:39] <ubotu> well, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:39] <pinkisntwell> how can i resize ntfs to install linux on my hd? i tried using gparted from the ubuntu livecd and it doesnt work
[07:39] <B166er> i'm on IRSSI
[07:39] <B166er> forget about web sites..
[07:39] <B166er> :\
[07:39] <nalioth> pinkisntwell: you'll need to install qtparted on the livecd. then qtparted can resize for you
[07:39] <dooglus> pinkisntwell: I had this problem last week.
[07:39] <psychocat> lynx
[07:39] <pinkisntwell> ok
[07:40] <Slackwise> nalioth: Thank you. totem-xine it is. :D
[07:40] <pinkisntwell> i tried to install but i get errors
[07:40] <pinkisntwell> let me see
[07:40] <dooglus> pinkisntwell: it turned out there was a small corruption on the ntfs partition.  the linux resize tools won't touch it until you fix it.  go back to windows and run "chkdsk /f" - don't miss the /f
[07:40] <pinkisntwell> did it work ok for you? did it keep all your data?
[07:40] <nalioth> pinkisntwell: you'll need to enable the universe repository and install qtparted on the livecd
[07:40] <ale3hs> hey guys, about the sound problem I had, I just open multimedia center, changed back OSS ..still didnt work on test, but I save it .. and I reboot linux ..and now its alright.. but why alsa and oss modules need reboot to take effect?
[07:40] <psychocat> B166er: you can still browse. use a text browser
[07:40] <B166er> but, there is something weird, that might be my problem : the splash screen is now 'xubuntu' instead of ubuntu
[07:40] <nalioth> pinkisntwell: it works the same was as a hard drive install (apt-get does)
[07:40] <dooglus> nalioth: qtparted didn't work for me.  it'sbest to fix the error first
[07:40] <bpuccio> B166er: want me to copy and paste to you in a PM?
[07:40] <nalioth> dooglus: i believe pinkisntwell's problems are ignorance of the tools required
[07:41] <psychocat> B166er: links2
[07:41] <dbyte> does anyone know if ubuntu will have a package for the 2.6.12-10 kernel source soon?
[07:41] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095
[07:41] <HedgeMage> btw, hi nalioth
[07:41] <it> Help meee
[07:41] <HedgeMage> :)
[07:41] <pinkisntwell> i'm trying to install qtparted with synaptic and i get: qtparted:
[07:41] <pinkisntwell>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[07:41] <nalioth> HedgeMage: good morning!
[07:41] <navarone> ale3hn> no idea...have you recently upgraded kernel?
[07:41] <psychocat> pinkisntwell: install libqt3
[07:41] <pinkisntwell> why doesnt it do it on its own?
[07:41] <dooglus> nalioth: he's saying gparted failed, so it's likely there's a problem with the filesystem
[07:41] <nalioth> dbyte: the kernel source is available now.
[07:41] <HedgeMage> nalioth: it's only taken me five years with the man to get him onto Linux 8)
[07:41] <B166er> i cannot even open other instance of the terminal, i'll have to quit here, and then lose the webadress, wich is, not cool.
[07:42] <Zirland> What is code name for 6.04 Ubuntu?
[07:42] <dbyte> nalioth what is the package name? I can only find 2.6.11
[07:42] <nalioth> dooglus: gparted does not have the ntfs capability. qtparted uses ntfsprogs and gparted does not
[07:42] <dooglus> nalioth: failenough
[07:42] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095   Help. I've done build-essential and stuff but why doesn't it work?
[07:42] <nalioth> dbyte: search for kernel-source
[07:42] <psychocat> B166er you can open another terminal window, alt+f2
[07:42] <moaltmann> HappyFool: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15328 but no real action...
[07:42] <dooglus> fair*
[07:42] <qjimbo> ZIrland: No idea, but I bet it'll be toasty tortoise or something random like that :p
[07:42] <B166er> psychocat, i know but its not working anymore, maybe because of the bug or i dont know
[07:43] <dbyte> nalioth: doh nevermind, found it, what is the difference between linux-tree-2.6.12 and linux-source-2.6.12?
[07:43] <zuen> what's the easiest way to run a cmd upon booting up the system? i need it to goto the background something like 'synergyc -f foobar &'
[07:43] <nalioth> dbyte: i'm not sure, i dont play in trees
[07:43] <psychocat> B166er: ah ok, i don't know what else to tell you sorry.  maybe somebody else can
[07:43] <mrhyd3> anyone running ubuntu on MS virtual server?
[07:43] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095   Help. I've done build-essential and stuff but why doesn't it work?
[07:43] <dbyte> nalioth: now if i build the kernel off of this i lose my ubuntu splash screen boot dont I?
[07:44] <B166er> and you think that 'fixvideoresolution' is my problem ? even i i have the xubuntu instead of ubuntu splash screen, and its the first time it does this
[07:44] <nalioth> dbyte: i'm not really knowledgable about splash screens, but i think you can change the splash w/o recompiling the kernel
[07:44] <nalioth> B166er: yes, the fixres is universal
[07:44] <dbyte> nalioth well i changed kernels earlier and i lost it
[07:45] <B166er> i'll try..
[07:45] <nalioth> dbyte: i think there is a program to change the splashes
[07:45] <navarone> dbyte>Sytem>Preferences/Splash Screen...uncheck "show splash screen"
[07:45] <dbyte> navarone: that is different
[07:45] <navarone> okie
[07:45] <dbyte> navarone: that is the gnome splash, not boot splash
[07:46] <HedgeMage> Anyone know how good/bad ATI Radeon mobile support is under Ubuntu?  They tend to be a PITA on most distros I've tried...
[07:46] <dbyte> HedgeMage: works for me
[07:46] <pinkisntwell> help, i cant install qtparted
[07:47] <dbyte> HedgeMage: ubuntu xorg was why I switched
[07:47] <nalioth> HedgeMage: they either work well or as you've found on your own
[07:47] <root__> whats the web browser again ? lynx2 does not work
[07:47] <HedgeMage> dbyte: thanks
[07:47] <psychocat> links2
[07:47] <dbyte> HedgeMage: since my stupid mobility garbage ati horsepoo pigshit of a card works great :)
[07:47] <root__> uh
[07:47] <root__> thx
[07:47] <nalioth> root__: just use 'links' (you may need to install it)
[07:47] <dbyte> HedgeMage: and I just did a clean ubuntu install and it works with DRI out of the box :)
[07:48] <nalioth> dbyte: please respect us with your language choices
[07:48] <dbyte> HedgeMage: havnt really pushed it to see how well it works, but ultimately its working with 3d accel at boot
[07:48] <dbyte> nalioth: sorry, kinda emotional about that one...took me almost a year and a half of owning this laptop before 3d accel finally worked under any kernel/xfree/xorg combo
[07:49] <ale3hs> how I configure to open the wma links with xine and no with totem?
[07:49] <ale3hs> and why the totem is the default player in ubuntu.. it sucks
[07:49] <HedgeMage> dbyte: well, hubby finally wants to try Linux... but, he's a gamer, so that sort of stuff is important
[07:50] <bDerrly> i'm stuck: dpkg: error processing cupsys-driver-gimpprint (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:50] <bDerrly> i cannot dpkg --configure, i cannot dpkg -r or dpkg -i that package
[07:51] <bDerrly> i can't find a log of what exactly it is barfing on...
[07:52] <MrPockets> how does one go about installing a mouse or cursor theme?
[07:52] <Jose_nix> hello
[07:53] <gema> alguien entiende castellano?
[07:53] <Jose_nix> hola ?
[07:53] <Decibel> i was wondering are there any way to change console colors in tty?
[07:53] <Jose_nix> yo
[07:53] <Jose_nix> :D
[07:53] <Decibel> Yo entiendo
[07:53] <gema> hola Decibel
[07:53] <Decibel> hola
[07:53] <gema> de donde eres?
[07:53] <Jose_nix> I have a problem maybe someone please could help me ?
[07:53] <Poseidon> what's good with using LVM when installing?
[07:53] <Decibel> gema: de finlandia.. pero vivo en fuengirola.. que te cuentas?
[07:54] <HedgeMage> hi Decibel
[07:54] <B166er> okay, i tried with Links2 to go on the wiki web site provided by ubotu, but its still not helping,  'this version does not proved ssl ect..support'
[07:55] <B166er> still need serious help
[07:55] <myggan> I want a pre configured dist that I can have on my USB-stick and boot from. What dist should I have?
[07:55] <gema> no se como va esto del chat
[07:55] <B166er> myggan try DSL
[07:55] <nalioth> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <dbyte> HedgeMage: uhm...i dunno about gaming with it
[07:56] <dbyte> HedgeMage: the ati mobility cards arent that hot to begin with really
[07:56] <myggan> B166er,  May I have a grafical interface on DSL?
[07:56] <B166er> yes..
[07:56] <Alex> Oh my gowsh. It's HedgeMage! Aaaahhh!
[07:56] <qjimbo> some games work on linux natively, like the Unreal Tournament series and the sims (I think)
[07:57] <B166er> i cannot load X, / xubuntu instead of ubuntu usplash, and its saying no screens found ..
[07:57] <dbyte> I tried running unreal tournament on mine, it worked great for X ammount of time before biting it
[07:57] <B166er> help here ?
[07:57] <Alex> qjimbo: http://www.simsbox.com/sims_linux.htm <-- it shipped with Mandrake 8.1, nonetheless 8)
[07:57] <qjimbo> otheriwse you could try buying Cedega which lets you run some windows games inside Linux fairly well, but ntohings as good as actually running them in windows
[07:57] <dbyte> but that was also before i switched to the latest xorg
[07:57] <apokryphos> B166er: reconfigure your X;  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <Alex> fwiw I get better performance in Ut2k4 in Linux than Windows.
[07:58] <MFen> hello
[07:58] <gema> que lio
[07:58] <HedgeMage> Alex: hi there
[07:58] <Jose_nix> May it can be my ntfs partition ( windows xp ) be in /dev/hdc3 ?
[07:58] <B166er> ok
[07:58] <B166er> i'll try
[07:58] <Jose_nix> I think it only could be in /dev/hda
[07:58] <gema> hay que ser un p.. guru pa chatear?
[07:58] <Jose_nix> someone
[07:58] <Jose_nix> could help me
[07:59] <psychocat> gema: por favor usa #ubuntu-es, es en espanol.
[07:59] <SGershon> !es
[07:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:59] <Jose_nix> I'm trying to mount my windows parttion
[07:59] <Jose_nix> .8
[07:59] <Jose_nix> :(
[07:59] <qjimbo> Jose_nix: ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[07:59] <Jose_nix> please help
[07:59] <MFen> it's spelled all
[07:59] <pinkisntwell> what does this mean?
[07:59] <pinkisntwell> C compiler cannot create executables
[08:00] <HellDragon> youpi sa marche
[08:00] <HellDragon> et en plus mes trucs sont plus enorme
[08:00] <qjimbo> Jose_nix: you can only read from NTFS though, unless you use the rather experimental NTFSmount which I've found corrupts big files when copying them over, not ideal
[08:00] <jeff_> varsendagger: do you know what may help me?
[08:00] <listner> hi
[08:00] <it> pinkisntwell:  try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:00] <qjimbo> Bye then :p
[08:00] <jeff_> varsendagger: my evolution crashes when i try to see the calendar
[08:00] <DarK_LoRd> Hi, has anyone had this problem before? > File system seems to have fatal corruptions.Running with--rebuild--tree is required. fsck failed Please
[08:00] <DarK_LoRd> repair manually.Control Dwill exit from this shell and contiue system startup.
[08:01] <DarK_LoRd> continue*
[08:01] <DarK_LoRd> excuse the spelling mistakes, i copy n pasted it from a forum :p
[08:01] <mp3guy> i installed ubuntu, then later put on KDE, my firefox has really small fonts, and some formatting trouble, is there something i need to install/uninstall to fix this problem?
[08:02] <nalioth> DarK_LoRd: please see the /topic
[08:02] <griffin_> #new
[08:03] <MrPockets> so will someone run me through installing a mouse package?
[08:03] <it> pinkisntwell:  Did that help?
[08:03] <qjimbo> what sort of mouse package?
[08:03] <DarK_LoRd> does the past script run on winblowz?
[08:03] <pinkisntwell> downloading
[08:03] <stratovarius_> how to register the nick?
[08:03] <pinkisntwell> what does it do?
[08:03] <DarK_LoRd> because i'm using winblowz now, my ubuntu box wont boot up properly
[08:04] <it> pinkisntwell:  Alright. So that should help then if it's downloading =)
[08:04] <scrooch> hi
[08:04] <it> pinkisntwell:  Gives you all your compilers and stuff that are essential. lol
[08:04] <P8ntKid> What is the comand to remove a whole directory? Like, when i try to do. "rmdir .freecraft" it gives me an error saying the directory isnt empty.
[08:04] <B166er> okay...ehh, i did the dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg... but its still not working, still no screens found
[08:04] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: rm -r directory/
[08:04] <chapium> rm -rf, use with caution
[08:04] <it> P8ntKid:  rm dir -R
[08:04] <pinkisntwell> are you sure that qtparted will work ok? i'm trying to compile it from source since i cant do it from the repositories
[08:04] <B166er> and still need serions help
[08:05] <it> pinkisntwell:  all that build-essential does is install thinks. It doesn't take things out.
[08:05] <varsendagger> strat type "/nickserv help"
[08:05] <idiot> rm -rf (removes directories), rm -r (removes files)
[08:05] <idiot> the end.
[08:05] <varsendagger> jeff_, are you there?
[08:05] <sdakota> Hi
[08:05] <stratovarius_> dooglus:u there?
[08:05] <it> idiot:  I've always done rm dir/ -R
[08:05] <idiot> -_-
[08:05] <idiot> i've always done rm -rf
[08:06] <it> I guess they both work
[08:06] <sdakota> me too
[08:06] <idiot> ;)
[08:06] <jeff_> varsendagger: yeah im here
[08:06] <idiot> and I've done, cp -rf, or cp -r
[08:06] <MrPockets> qjimbo, a theme for the cursor
[08:06] <pinkisntwell> i'm tired of this
[08:06] <mrhyd3> is there a way to get apt-get not to try to look for the CD?
[08:06] <B166er> i cannot load X, / xubuntu instead of ubuntu usplas, and no screen found.. crying for help now.
[08:06] <pinkisntwell> it still doesnt work, it gives some other error
[08:06] <it> pinkisntwell:  Mine is also saying that my C compiler cannot create executables but I've done build-essential.
[08:06] <stratovarius_> dooglus: sorry connection problems. how to register my nick to chat in pvt?
[08:06] <qjimbo> oh right, never heard of such a thing, sorry MrPockets
[08:06] <HappyFool> mrhyd3: yip. in synaptic you can disable the cd source
[08:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stratovarius_ about register
[08:06] <it> pinkisntwell:  Damnit.
[08:06] <varsendagger> did you get my /msg?
[08:07] <pinkisntwell> i guess nothing works
[08:07] <sdakota> little question... my server has a local ip and an internet ip, and I want it to use the internet ip for apache, vhcs, and all other things
[08:07] <Xanthus7> Question please
[08:07] <MrPockets> qjimbo, thanks anymater friend.
[08:07] <P8ntKid> chapium: Why use with caution?
[08:07] <pinkisntwell> why do they include gparted in the livecd if it doesnt work?
[08:07] <HappyFool> mrhyd3: or you can comment out the 'deb cdrom' line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <psychocat> MrPockets:  did you install it or do you need to know how
[08:07] <HappyFool> mrhyd3: if you do edit sources.list, remember to run 'sudo apt-get update' afterwards (if you use synaptic, it should be automatically done)
[08:07] <Xanthus7> I am trying to do a fresh clean install of 5.10 I get to the point of remove disk and when it reboots on grub I get error 17
[08:07] <MrPockets> i need to know how
[08:07] <MrPockets> i have the package i just dont know what to do
[08:08] <psychocat> MrPockets: it's tar.gz right?
[08:08] <it> pinkisntwell:  Yeah try a sudo 'apt-get update' also.
[08:08] <stratovarius_> who can give me the whole command to indentify?
[08:08] <chapium> P8ntKid: rm -rf can delete a lot without prompt.  Especially if you put a * after it
[08:08] <it> without quotes.
[08:08] <MrPockets> psychocat, yes
[08:08] <sdakota> HappyFool: Hi, That's a long time ago!
[08:08] <katrine> hi
[08:08] <psychocat> MrPockets: system -> preferences -> cursor selection -> install new theme
[08:08] <psychocat> MrPockets: system -> preferences -> cursor selection -> install theme
[08:09] <P8ntKid> chapium: Its just some folders in my home directory that i made.
[08:09] <Varanger> hi
[08:09] <mrhyd3> HappyFool: Should of known that, thank you!
[08:09] <Xanthus7> What is error 17 when grub is booting
[08:09] <HappyFool> hi sdakota
[08:09] <Varanger> When I want to look for a text in a file, I do this: cat file | grep text
[08:09] <sdakota> HappyFool: DaZjorz (i changed nick, DaZjorz is too much camel, egoistic, breezah, etc....)
[08:09] <MrPockets> but you see there is no cursor selection
[08:09] <psychocat> Xanthus7: did you google it?
[08:09] <Varanger> is there any way to do it with a single command?
[08:09] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095   Here is what I get when I run wineinstall.
[08:09] <HappyFool> sdakota: ah-ha :)
[08:10] <MrPockets> just mouse. and theres no theme installation option under that
[08:10] <mrhyd3> hard getting used to deb pckage system when i was on gentoo
[08:10] <MrPockets> and its a   .tar.bz2   file
[08:10] <idiot> xanthus7; i believe it means that it grub cannot mount your partition with /boot on it, I had problems with this before I had to get a liveCD and edit everything and reinstall grub
[08:11] <Xanthus7> One more thing linksys wireless card during install said it could not find my network which all I have is cable modem wirless
[08:11] <Xanthus7> it is asking for an ip address now would that be my router ip or my isp's ip
[08:11] <chapium> anyone try ubuntu with a d-link wireless card?
[08:11] <psychocat> MrPockets: sudo apt-get install gcursor
[08:11] <varsendagger> jeff_,  send me msg when you get back
[08:11] <Ethan> This is not really related to ubuntu but can we change the video program used by firefox? If yes, how?
[08:11] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095
[08:12] <MrPockets> "couldnt find package gcursos"
[08:12] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095
[08:12] <psychocat> MrPockets: gcursor
[08:12] <jeff_> varsendagger: im here, im just putting the terminal output on pastebin
[08:12] <B166er> wow, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked this time : but i've done the impossible ! i was ROOT in GUI
[08:13] <MrPockets> couldnt find gcursor
[08:13] <it> B166er:  ...I'm always root...
[08:13] <it> B166er: lol.
[08:13] <psychocat> MrPockets: you have to have the universe repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <B166er> ubuntu technically, doest not let one log as root
[08:14] <qjimbo> it: that doesn't sound like a very secure way to go :p
[08:14] <it> B166er:  Well I'm root. It cautions me and everything whenever I run something important.
[08:14] <it> qjimbo: Do you think I don't have a secure password on it?
[08:14] <B166er> i dont want to be though.
[08:14] <qjimbo> it: doesn't matter
[08:14] <MrPockets> meaning?
[08:14] <it> qjimbo:  Matters to me. I like being root rather than typing sudo apt-get install build-essential every day.
[08:14] <qjimbo> it: it means if a malicious program is run it can totally screw you over as opposite to only screwing over files your user can access
[08:15] <varsendagger> great
[08:15] <it> qjimbo:  I'd rather just type su if I need to do something off of root.
[08:15] <psychocat> MrPockets: meaning you have to add the universe repositories so apt-get can install the package
[08:15] <jeff_> varsendagger: this is what i got trying to run evolution from terminal: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/438877
[08:15] <nalioth> it: ubuntu has the root account disabled for a reason
[08:16] <it> nalioth:  I've been told this a billion jillion times but I really don't care. It's my own choice.
[08:16] <MrPockets> are you willing to guide me through that?
[08:16] <qjimbo> it: oh right, I thought you logging into gnome as root
[08:16] <jeff_> varsendagger: evolution opened but i had the same problem with the calendar section
[08:16] <psychocat> MrPockets: sure, i'll message you
[08:16] <it> qjimbo:  I'm on gnome right now..as root.
[08:16] <MrPockets> thank you
[08:17] <jeff_> varsendagger: you there man?
[08:17] <it> nalioth:  Maybe if people would help me figure this out then I'd leave.
[08:17] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095  I can't figure out why it won't make executables.
[08:17] <varsendagger> jeff_, yeah
[08:17] <INfamUS> hello all
[08:17] <Ethan> I thought we couldn't used root in gui login ?
[08:18] <jeff_> varsendagger: ok
[08:18] <INfamUS> is there an absolute LINUX noob irc channel for ubuntu?
[08:18] <scrooch> I have a nvidia1 card... I apt-getted everything correctly and did a nvidia-config enable
[08:18] <scrooch> still i can't modprobe nvidia
[08:19] <qjimbo> infamus: well I think this is it :p
[08:19] <varsendagger> INfamUS, i think you are in it, thgese guys are really helpful don't be afraid to ask
[08:19] <INfamUS> lol, ok
[08:19] <misfit_toy> why do the settings from "nvidia-settings" not stay on a reboot? is there an nvidia specific .conf file somewhere?
[08:19] <scrooch> oops... i think it just modprobed just fine... brb restarting X
[08:19] <scoperesolution> anyone tried using cedega with ubuntu?
[08:20] <INfamUS> i chose ubuntu as my first linux os version because it seems the most user friendly, for me at least
[08:20] <it> Anyone tried helping me a little?
[08:20] <Ethan> very good distro :p
[08:20] <scoperesolution> it: what's up?
[08:20] <INfamUS> i dont have it installed yet, and was wondering just how to do so
[08:20] <it> scoperesolution:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5095 I get this when I try to install wine
[08:20] <Ethan> do you have cd?
[08:20] <Ethan> you can download them or command them
[08:21] <qjimbo> yeah I used the SHipIt thing to get mine \o/
[08:21] <INfamUS> i already have a linux partition ready on my HDD and am DLing the installation to burn to a CD
[08:21] <qjimbo> came after 3 weeks though :p
[08:21] <varsendagger> nalioth, could you look at this paste bin http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/438877  this is jeff_'s problem, it looks like there is a problem with GLib or camel but i can't tell
[08:21] <Ethan> the installation (no expert) is really simple
[08:21] <scoperesolution> it: did you get it from the repo?
[08:21] <INfamUS> mainly i was wondering what it takes to install ubuntu
[08:21] <it> scoperesolution:  I did CVS because the repo wasn't working
[08:21] <qjimbo> it's very easy infamus
[08:21] <varsendagger> INfamUS, about an hour
[08:21] <scoperesolution> it: do apt-get install wine
[08:22] <scoperesolution> at cmd line
[08:22] <it> INfamUS:  Yeah pretty much you have to tell it your name and username and stuff
[08:22] <scoperesolution> and see if that works
[08:22] <qjimbo> you just follow the instructions, and if you've partitioned already it's nothing
[08:22] <Ethan> you said you allready have a partition
[08:22] <nalioth> varsendagger: looks like dodgy code to me
[08:22] <INfamUS> i bought Corel linux and it doesnt want to install from boot up
[08:22] <it> scoperesolution:  package wine is not abailavle.
[08:22] <qjimbo> infamus: are you on broadband or dialup?
[08:22] <purplefeltangel> whenever i open more than one window in Gaim they collapse into one button like on Windows XP....how do i stop that??
[08:22] <scoperesolution> you need to update your repos
[08:22] <INfamUS> my pc restarts every time
[08:22] <it> available*
[08:22] <varsendagger> what does dodgy code mean?
[08:22] <INfamUS> broadband
[08:22] <qjimbo> ah well that should be fine then
[08:22] <Ethan> that means you allready have a linux installed or another OS ? Do you want to have more than 1 OS?
[08:22] <scoperesolution> I had no problems getting it from apt
[08:22] <INfamUS> qjimbo: broadband
[08:23] <qjimbo> since broadband works out the box usually
[08:23] <INfamUS> cool
[08:23] <it> scoperesolution:  I have the source all CVS'd onto my compy
[08:23] <qjimbo> it's dialup and winmodems and evil you have to watch out for
[08:23] <nalioth> varsendagger: not written well, etc
[08:23] <it> scoperesolution:  just when I run wineinstall I get that error
[08:23] <INfamUS> another question i had, is it possible to install from WITHIN windows XP?
[08:23] <varsendagger> nalioth, his evolution is crashing when he opens claender
[08:23] <evian> I am going over to my dad's house to install Ubuntu for him. He only has a modem for internet though. I would like to burn CDs with packages on them from package repositories, but I'm not sure how to download them and get all the right dependency packages needed too. What should I do?
[08:23] <varsendagger> any sugestions?
[08:24] <it> INfamUS:  I'm thinking not. I bet the boot discs were made to work with motherboards instead of OS's
[08:24] <nalioth> varsendagger: it could be anything, more information is needed
[08:24] <INfamUS> it: thanks
[08:24] <dooglus> evian: install everything you need on a clean install at home, then back up /var/cache/apt/archives onto CD
[08:24] <INfamUS> im afraid i will have the same problems i had when trying to install corel linux
[08:24] <varsendagger> jeff_, talk to nalioth he might know
[08:24] <scoperesolution> it: well I would say do a repo update and see if that helps, something seems to be missing or your gcc compiler is bad
[08:24] <chapium> i'm thinking about eventually installing ubuntu.  Does anyone here have any small problems that bugged you about the distro?
[08:25] <scoperesolution> it: you could always apt-get gcc again
[08:25] <varsendagger> chapium, i didn't like how gnome looked in the begining
[08:25] <chapium> i've used fedora, but certain little things (plus a broken package updater) bugged me to death
[08:25] <scoperesolution> anyone use cedega?
[08:25] <it> scoperesolution:  already newest version it says.
[08:25] <dooglus> varsendagger: the distro's great, but the IRC channel sucks :)
[08:26] <evian> thanks dooglus, but I think my archive space there is limited to like 600 megs or something? I forget how to raise that limit. Although I guess I could do one CD at a time couldn't I... ok
[08:26] <evian> thanks dooglus
[08:26] <it> dooglus: You could say that again.
[08:26] <scoperesolution> it: then you messed something up, it should be able to create exe's, you could always make a simple c program to test the compiler
[08:26] <scoperesolution> or you could steal one I have written already
[08:26] <varsendagger> dooglus, are you talking about ubuntu ?
[08:26] <Ethan> INfamUS: what was your problem? The install cd is a boot cd.
[08:26] <it> scoperesolution:  my C++ works, but I'm not much a C programmer yet.
[08:26] <INfamUS> anyone have any clue why my PC restart when i try and instal Corel Linux from a bootable installer CD?
[08:26] <it> scoperesolution:  I almost daily make C++ programs...
[08:27] <scoperesolution> it: and they compile just fine?
[08:27] <it> scoperesolution:  Yeah.
[08:27] <scoperesolution> it: what do you need wine for first off?
[08:27] <chapium> INfamUS: does it ever boot into it?
[08:27] <scoperesolution> you might be better off with the program I am looking into right now
[08:27] <dooglus> varsendagger: I'm just being silly
[08:27] <INfamUS> I bought corel Linux
[08:27] <it> scoperesolution:  I need it so I can run my old windows stuff...my windows went corrupt and explorer.exe stops responding after the login screen.
[08:27] <Ethan> INfamUS: you could give more info lol, you have installed it succesfully?
[08:28] <misfit_toy> why do the settings from "nvidia-settings" not stay on a reboot? is there an nvidia specific .conf file somewhere?
[08:28] <scoperesolution> well wine is crap
[08:28] <Ethan> restart during the install or after, and when?
[08:28] <varsendagger> ohhh i asked about getting another distro running on another parltition of mine
[08:28] <it> scoperesolution:  I don't think so. I've seen it run Counter Strike and stuff.
[08:28] <scoperesolution> no you might have seen winex
[08:28] <purplefeltangel> whenever i open more than one window in Gaim they collapse into one button like on Windows XP....how do i stop that??
[08:28] <scoperesolution> or cedega
[08:28] <it> scoperesolution:  Well fine, what would you reccomend?
[08:28] <mp3guy> since upgrading to breezy, vlc looks very ugly, any remedy to this problem?
[08:29] <INfamUS> the instructions said to put the CD in and restart, and the install would start from there, but every time it finishes detecting hardware, it restarts my PC and spits the CD out of the drive
[08:29] <chapium> hmmm
[08:29] <chapium> since you bought corel linux, maybe they have a support line you have paid for?
[08:29] <scoperesolution> well first off try booting off a live cd and see if you can get wine running, you might just need to reinstall ubuntu, or go to www.transgaming.com
[08:30] <INfamUS> bah, thier support is to basically tell me if i cant get it working to just use windows
[08:30] <chapium> get your money bakc
[08:30] <INfamUS> oh i already have
[08:30] <chapium> i see
[08:31] <chapium> so, the software on the corel cd reboots after it "inspects hardware"
[08:31] <INfamUS> but the same principal for installing ubuntu applies right? burn the CD pop it in and install from boot?
[08:31] <Ethan> so the install doesn't work, that is?
[08:31] <INfamUS> basically
[08:31] <qjimbo> heh well I used to think Madrake/Mandriva was the easiest linux, but now I'd say ubuntu,s imply because it doesn't use the outdated RPM package system
[08:31] <chapium> what are you installing this on?
[08:31] <qjimbo> never tried Corel though
[08:31] <Ethan> there is generally 2 steps 1 first basical install reboot and full install (that is how is working Ubuntu)
[08:32] <INfamUS> an MS-DOS type screen pops up saying its initializing the graphical install and then the PC shuts down
[08:32] <nalioth> INfamUS: make sure your iso is md5 correct and burn it at the slowest burn speed you have
[08:32] <dsacode> Hello! I'm looking for WM/DE.. Most of my time i'm busy with kernel development, so i use only xterm-s and emacs; but i want something more fancy and low-resource (not KDE/GNOME).. Can you advice me something?
[08:32] <chapium> ah
[08:32] <bur[n] er> INfamUS: this may be a silly question, but why not try ubuntu?
[08:32] <Ethan> he is
[08:32] <Ethan> :p
[08:32] <chapium> if you can look for instructions to skip the graphical install
[08:32] <INfamUS> i am
[08:32] <bur[n] er> i read a lot about corel... my mistake
[08:32] <INfamUS> ive scoured the web and looked at loads of linux versions, ubuntu seems to be the best for me
[08:33] <bur[n] er> ubuntu is the best for many ;)
[08:33] <chapium> if you can get to a boot prompt, try somehting like linux -fb or -noapc or something like that
[08:33] <INfamUS> i just have apprehensions about the install because of my run in with Corel
[08:34] <bur[n] er> INfamUS: ubuntu != corel
[08:34] <INfamUS> im starting to wonder if it a hardware issue
[08:34] <gimmulf> Hi, im getting errors when trying to ./compille fluxbox from source, check: http://pastebin.com/438909
[08:35] <INfamUS> burner: what do you mean ubuntu != corel?
[08:35] <bur[n] er> INfamUS: they aren't the same
[08:35] <nalioth> gimmulf: install "build-essential"
[08:35] <popicu> hi
[08:35] <gimmulf> ahha
[08:35] <nalioth> gimmulf: also, type "sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox"
[08:35] <INfamUS> burner: ah, thank god
[08:35] <chapium> INfamUS:  try ubuntu itself and see if you have the same problem.  Corel's installer might be different or have a certain quirk
[08:35] <matid> Do anyone know how to change TTL of forwarded packets without having to recomplie kernel with TTL TARGET modules of netfilter?
[08:36] <Ethan> I don't know about Corel but Ubuntu install is easy
[08:37] <Ethan> Do you have ever tried Linux?
[08:37] <INfamUS> chaplum: I will, im just wondering if its a hardware issue i overlooked, i removed and trashed every WIN(insert product here) hardware a while ago, but im not sure if my ATI 3d card is a problem
[08:37] <Ethan> You could used a live CD as a beginning
[08:37] <chapium> INfamUS: have you tried http://support.corel.com/scripts/rightnow.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=754345
[08:37] <INfamUS> ive used linux once
[08:37] <sagaito> Hi...
[08:37] <sagaito> hola
[08:37] <bur[n] er> INfamUS: what kind of ati card?
[08:37] <nalioth> sagaito: howdy
[08:37] <INfamUS> radeon 7000 64mb PCI
[08:37] <Ethan> id you can't use a live cd there is a problem :D that could be a good test lol
[08:38] <bur[n] er> INfamUS: works fabulously :)
[08:38] <bur[n] er> then you have to download two cds though Ethan... that's not coo
[08:39] <Ethan> or command them....
[08:39] <sagaito> Nali--: fine...  hello from mexico... Saludos desde mexico..
[08:39] <Ethan> I have a lot of them, me....
[08:39] <INfamUS> the live CD works beutifully
[08:40] <bur[n] er> INfamUS: install it already ;)
[08:40] <Ethan> so the hardware detection should not be the problem
[08:40] <INfamUS> wicked
[08:40] <INfamUS> burner: the download is at 48%
[08:40] <chapium> anyone know what distro corel is based off of... if any?
[08:41] <INfamUS> Chaplum: i didnt find any nifo in that site link
[08:41] <crafteh> I accidently apt-get removed something that removed all my ssh things... I apt-get installed ssh, but my Eclipse still can't use ssh for some reason (the command definitely seems to work from the command line)... any ideas? Is there a log where I can see what exactly it had removed?
[08:41] <asonjay99> hi, i am having trouble with mplayer...i installed it and hat not but it wont play vidoes in fire fox...the littel bar comes up but it doens play anything
[08:41] <Ethan> debian it seems
[08:41] <Ethan> like ubuntu lol
[08:41] <drcode> any one mybe using palm with evo2?
[08:41] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5098   I was trying to install winex and this is what happened.
[08:42] <INfamUS> yeah, its Debian
[08:42] <Ethan> Seems like it is dead too....
[08:42] <crafteh> Is there a log anywhere that lists all the remove/installs for apt?
[08:42] <nalioth> crafteh: dpkg keeps a log, but i'm not sure where it is kept
[08:42] <arvind> I'm running amd64 and there is no w32codec
[08:42] <arvind> or where do i get my w32codec
[08:42] <Ethan> you can use synaptic too
[08:43] <Ethan> ubotu, wincodecs?
[08:43] <asonjay99> hi, i am having trouble with mplayer...i installed it and hat not but it wont play vidoes in fire fox...the littel bar comes up but it doens play anything
[08:43] <ubotu> Ethan: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:43] <crafteh> nalioth, ok- thanks
[08:43] <Ethan> lol
[08:43] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5098   I was trying to install winex and this is what happened.
[08:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ethan about w32codecs
[08:43] <chapium> INfamUS: looks like corel doesnt acknowledge a linux distro anymore
[08:43] <misfit_toy> !nvidia-settings
[08:43] <ubotu> misfit_toy: I give up, what is it?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> !tell arvind about w32codecs
[08:43] <misfit_toy> why do the settings from "nvidia-settings" not stay on a reboot? is there an nvidia specific .conf file somewhere?
[08:43] <Ethan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[08:44] <asonjay99> ubotu: tell asonjay99 about w32codecs
[08:44] <INfamUS> chaplum, i ran into that too
[08:44] <it> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5098   I was trying to install winex and this is what happened.
[08:44] <asonjay99> GRR
[08:44] <it> ubotu:  tell it about winex
[08:44] <bur[n] er> winex is deprecated
[08:44] <bur[n] er> cedega reaplaces it
[08:44] <emilye> who are you?!
[08:44] <it> alright I was trying to install it ,right
[08:44] <it> and I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5098
[08:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Anyone around have AOL?  I want to test if I can send email to AOLers.
[08:45] <bur[n] er> it: why not use cedega instead?
[08:45] <asonjay99> why isnt mplayer working in firfer fox.... cn anyone help me
[08:45] <emilye> WHO ARE YOU WHAT IS THIS!
[08:45] <it> bur[n] er:  I was going to but I was redirected to winex...
[08:45] <it> Fine I'll try again
[08:45] <INfamUS> paulproteus: try infamoustherhero@aol.com
[08:45] <misfit_toy> emilye, hearing the voices again?
[08:45] <sabmann> ubotu: tell sabmann about eclipse
[08:45] <bur[n] er> lol @ misfit_toy
[08:46] <emilye> wha? who the heck are you poeple
[08:46] <asonjay99> why isnt mplayer working in firfer fox.... cn anyone help me
[08:46] <Ethan> ?
[08:46] <sabmann> !tell sabmann about eclipse
[08:46] <it> bur[n] er:  When I go to the Cedega CVS Tree it goes to the WineX CVS tree.
[08:46] <evian> emilye: we are gnomes that help you with your computer
[08:46] <bur[n] er> sampan: /msg ubotu eclipse
[08:46] <[linner] > greeting everyone
[08:46] <paulproteus|lapt> INfamUS: Thanks, I'll mail you right away.
[08:47] <bur[n] er> it: why cvs and why not use a full release?
[08:47] <emilye> WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON
[08:47] <Ethan> ???
[08:47] <asonjay99> why isnt mplayer working in firfer fox.... cn anyone help me
[08:47] <it> bur[n] er:  1) I'd have to subscribe to something. 2) I like CVS a lot better.
[08:47] <bur[n] er> asonjay99: we heard you the first 4 times
[08:47] <emilye> please tell me what is go ing on
[08:47] <nalioth> asonjay99: please dont repeat so often
[08:47] <Ethan> emily your are using irc lol
[08:47] <asonjay99> then why hasnt anyone naswere dme
[08:47] <pepsi> no answer means "i dunno":
[08:47] <asonjay99> poop
[08:48] <nalioth> emilye: please watch the CAPS, this a help channel for Ubuntu linux
[08:48] <Ethan> asonjay99: there is a plugin for Mplayer
[08:48] <it> asonjay99:  Mine doesn't even play movies. Be quiet. =)
[08:48] <bur[n] er> asonjay99: because 1.) no one knows and 2.) you asked about ten times
[08:48] <asonjay99> 4 times
[08:48] <bur[n] er> my mplayer firefox plugin works ;)
[08:48] <bur[n] er> even on firefox 1.5
[08:48] <paulproteus|lapt> INfamUS: Tell me when you get the mail I just sent.
[08:48] <asonjay99> what did you do to get it to work
[08:48] <asonjay99> anyting special?
[08:48] <_moss> how do i install soap?
[08:49] <emilye> oh I can"t seem to find IM sorry by
[08:49] <_moss> [19:47]  [DCOP]  Error: You need SOAP::Lite package installed. Try apt-get install libsoap-lite-perl.
[08:49] <_moss> but it doesnt work
[08:49] <it> bur[n] er:  do you understand why I don't get a pre-packaged thing?
[08:49] <Ethan> apt-get install libsoap-lite-perl
[08:49] <Ethan> lol
[08:49] <_moss> dont work
[08:49] <bur[n] er> it: cause it costs money?
[08:50] <it> bur[n] er:  Right. CVS tree does not.
[08:50] <Ethan> moss : and using synaptic?
[08:50] <_moss> i got KDE
[08:50] <gimmulf> Anyone has fluxbox package with Xinerama compilled into
[08:50] <bur[n] er> it: it's $5 a month for 3 months... seems like it would be worth it to me, but to each their own
[08:50] <Ethan> _moss there is an equivalent on kde
[08:50] <it> bur[n] er:  I'm 15 years old. I don't have a job or anything so I couldn't even pay that.
[08:50] <_moss> adept
[08:50] <varsendagger> bur[n] er, that's pretty cool
[08:50] <pepsi> _moss, did you add universe to your repositories?
[08:50] <_moss> no
[08:51] <bur[n] er> varsendagger: ?
[08:51] <pepsi> oh
[08:51] <_moss> i know how to do it tho
[08:51] <varsendagger> it, i know kids who can make like 100 a day
[08:51] <it> varsendagger:  Yeah but I'm not one of them.
[08:51] <Asturio> what ist the ubuntu way of reconfiguring X?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:51] <bur[n] er> it: you could always sell drugs? ;)
[08:52] <it> bur[n] er:  Been there, done that.
[08:52] <paulproteus|lapt> Asturio: Yup.
[08:52] <bur[n] er> Asturio: it is
[08:52] <chapium> so...
[08:52] <sdakota> What do you think of the plan to get some Ubuntu Support Helpdesk, that people that have more money then knowledge can get help from, so people who help get payed and can pay their needed programs ^^ it's just exchanging knowledge for money ^^ what'you all say?
[08:52] <aru> when I go to update, the status window pops up then closes before downloading anything, anyone else have this problem?
[08:52] <Asturio> bur[n] er: thanx
[08:52] <chapium> my cdrom is on the frits.. Is there another way to install ubuntu? (say floppy plus fat internet connection)
[08:53] <woutertje> Hi, I recompiled my kernel but after that I couldn't use nvidia anymore (Those drivers mismatch the X drivers or something) so I have to use NV but they are unstable (atleast with my GPU)
[08:53] <bur[n] er> chapium: prolly easier to just find another cdrom somewhere
[08:53] <woutertje> any solution?
[08:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chapium about smartboot
[08:53] <pepsi> !smartboot
[08:53] <ubotu> somebody said smartboot was If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:53] <sdakota> ubotu: tell me about smartboot
[08:53] <pepsi> hrm
[08:53] <pepsi> heh
[08:53] <varsendagger> it go was some windows charge 1 per window
[08:53] <pepsi> see everyone wanted to know :D
[08:54] <chapium> holy cow, there is a bot in here
[08:54] <chapium> sweet
[08:54] <bur[n] er> nalioth: that smartboot thing is neat :)
[08:54] <varsendagger> ubotu: tell me about smartboot
[08:54] <pepsi> its already right in the channel
[08:54] <jode> Anyone having problems installing the add-on cd?
[08:54] <chapium> pepsi: thanks
[08:54] <bur[n] er> for the record, instead of spamming the channel with bot stuff... you all can just "/msg ubotu help"
[08:55] <varsendagger> sorry
[08:55] <pepsi> no
[08:55] <pepsi> everyone else does it, so i refuse to msg ubotu
[08:55] <sdakota>  <-- looks like a strange ASCII language o.O
[08:55] <woutertje> ubotu: tell me about smartboot
[08:55] <sdakota> pepsi: agreed
[08:55] <bur[n] er> that's why i drink coke... blasted pepsi
[08:55] <woutertje> Hi, I recompiled my kernel but after that I couldn't use nvidia anymore (Those drivers mismatch the X drivers or something) so I have to use NV but they are unstable (atleast with my GPU)
[08:55] <woutertje> any solution?
[08:55] <it> sdakota:  Looks like chinese to me. Lol
[08:56] <Asturio> sdakota: That looks like chinese
[08:56] <Asturio> woutertje: You new do reconfigure nvidia
[08:56] <sdakota> then HydraIRC probably don't understand these chars,.. I see it as a , then a |, then a , then a a with a 0 above it, then 1/4, then an euro sign o.O
[08:56] <chapium> someone needs to give ubotu a boost of confidence
[08:57] <qjimbo> HydraIRC is awful :p
[08:57] <paulproteus|lapt> Just like a Windows program, not to expect UTF-8.
[08:57] <chapium> "I guess synaptic is bla bla bla"
[08:57] <it> HAha 
[08:57] <Asturio> How to do this the ubuntu way?
[08:57] <sdakota> qjimbo: it's better then shitty mirc
[08:57] <qjimbo> true
[08:57] <it> sdakota:  I like X-Chat. =D
[08:57] <sdakota> paulproteus|lapt, agreed
[08:57] <qjimbo> I used XChat in Windows when I was on windows
[08:57] <Asturio> it: What does that means?
[08:57] <nalioth> sdakota: please respect us with your language choices
[08:57] <bur[n] er> irssi > mirc, hydraIRC, & Xchat
[08:57] <Woutertje|2> Asturio: how do i reconfigure nvidia?
[08:57] <sdakota> it: X-Chat isn't free. =(
[08:57] <Asturio> I use Gaim :=
[08:57] <it> Asturio:  I don't know. My chinese friend isn't online.
[08:57] <Asturio> )
[08:57] <sdakota> nalioth, huh ?
[08:58] <qjimbo> the oldest version on their page is I think
[08:58] <qjimbo> oldest WIn32 version
[08:58] <sdakota> Asturio, Gaim isn't for Windows
[08:58] <sdakota> ..Right?
[08:58] <pepsi> sure it is
[08:58] <nalioth> sdakota: let's leave the vulgarities in the locker room
[08:58] <Slackwise> gaim runs on windows just fine.
[08:58] <qjimbo> yeah it is but it's awful
[08:58] <sdakota> o.O
[08:58] <chapium> i'm using gaim in winders right now
[08:58] <qjimbo> like having capslock enabled makes you type ! instead of 1
[08:58] <qjimbo> on gaim
[08:58] <sdakota> gaim was already awful in Linux - wonder what it's like in Windows then o.O
[08:58] <popicu> help plz
[08:58] <chapium> its a lot better than its .6* days
[08:58] <qjimbo> XD
[08:58] <it> sdakota:  I <3 gaim.
[08:59] <Asturio> sdakota: duno... i though we are ubuntu :)...
[08:59] <INfamUS> woohoo, 76% downloaded, heres hopin im alive to see the end of it\
[08:59] <sdakota> Asturio, Ofcourse, sorry, but we were talking about windows clients, and I said hydrairc was the best
[08:59] <popicu> how i install  RealPlayer10GOLD.bin ?
[08:59] <felipe_> Does anyone knows where is the option in evolution to download only email headers?
[09:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell popicu about realplayer
[09:00] <sdakota> popicu: chmod 777 RealPlayer10GOLD.bin; ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[09:00] <Asturio> sdakota: Oops... didn't read that...
[09:00] <chapium> popicu: run run away!
[09:00] <qjimbo> oh yeah there's an odd thing I've noticed in ubuntu, in that when typing, I have a bad habit of enabling caps lock for even single letters,in ubuntu it seems a bit slower than windows at seeing when I've disabled capslock so I end up typing THe instead of The etc.
[09:00] <chapium> popicu:  you should be able to run it with sh or ./
[09:00] <qjimbo> I've adjusted to it now though, but it's a bit odd
[09:00] <it> qjimbo:  some times that happens to me except when I press the shift key I hold it too long.
[09:00] <chapium> popicu: what sdakota said
[09:00] <sdakota> qjimbo: You use caps lock to type capitals? o.O I mostly use shift for that o.O
[09:00] <qjimbo> yeah it's a bad habit :p
[09:01] <it> qjimbo:  I just need to take my finger off sooner. lol
[09:01] <qjimbo>  but holding down keys on the keybaord never feels very natural
[09:01] <qjimbo> I prefer to hit it ^^
[09:01] <sdakota> popico: but programs like REalPlayer are usually on the apt database too.
[09:01] <it> qjimbo:  Damn winex..
[09:01] <sdakota> popico: Use Synaptic to search for RealPlayer, then install it like that -- if you use apt to install programs, they are automatically updated when a new version come out =)
[09:01] <nalioth> sdakota: not so. there are a few not included due to legal reasons
[09:01] <sdakota> it: It's called Cedega now
[09:02] <mwe> on my laptop I have a windows partition and a ubuntu partition. now I want to get rid of the windows partition and have one large partition for ubuntu. is that possible without reinstalling?
[09:02] <it> sdakota:  No. I'm cvs'ing winex. not cedega.
[09:02] <popicu> don`t work
[09:02] <nalioth> mwe: not so easily, but you can use the use-to-be-windows space in ubuntu seamlessly
[09:02] <it> sdakota:  and it won't install.
[09:02] <sdakota> it: winex is renamed... is there still a winex now ?
[09:02] <it> sdakota...yeah...
[09:02] <it> sdakota:  http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[09:02] <mwe> nalioth: yes
[09:03] <sdakota> it: uuh, Cedega is freely available from their CVS - but it's still Cedega, not WineX on that ;)
[09:03] <mwe> nalioth: like make it a partition for /usr maybe?
[09:04] <it> sdakota:  I don't care hwat it's named. I care if it will install or not and it's not installing so I really kind of want it to install.
[09:04] <nightvision> sup guys
[09:04] <chungaroo> i'm having trouble with my sound
[09:04] <oofnik> hey can someone help me with auto mounting USB devices? it worked in hoary, i just upgraded to breezy and it doesn't want to work...
[09:04] <nightvision> I have a problem
[09:04] <sabmann> totem player isn't workinpppp/quit
[09:04] <sabmann> sry
[09:04] <nightvision> I have a problem with installing Ubuntu
[09:05] <oofnik> what is it doing nightvision
[09:05] <sdakota> nightvision, what's the problem?
[09:05] <nightvision> I am now rebooting without the cd
[09:05] <sdakota> it: there is a program that automatically downloads the newest version from CVS and installs it
[09:05] <nightvision> and it says "preparing for installation"
[09:05] <nalioth> mwe: no. make it a partition that symlinks into your /home/mwe/
[09:05] <it> sdakota:  What is the problem?
[09:05] <nightvision> and it just sits there and does nothing....for hours
[09:06] <sdakota> nightvision: you don't have the installation cd in the drive, and it says "preparing for installation"?
[09:06] <popicu> what video player  to use on my ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:06] <sdakota> it: thought you had a problem o.O
[09:06] <it> sdakota:  I DO. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5098
[09:06] <nightvision> I pressed f4 to see what was appeneing and it says it was trying to installing "xresprobe"
[09:06] <oofnik> nightvision did you try to just re burn the cd
[09:07] <nightvision> sdakota:I had already installed all of the stuff on the cd
[09:07] <nightvision> the base system, extra files, etc.
[09:07] <sdakota> it: you have x86? or 64 bits?
[09:07] <nightvision> x86
[09:08] <sdakota> nightvision: well... if you want to be sure if the problems are in the packages, you can use the netinstall...
[09:08] <popicu> what video player  to use on my ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:08] <nightvision> netinstall?
[09:08] <sdakota> popicu: I used one ... but I can't remember the name.....
[09:08] <nightvision> I havent heard of that
[09:08] <mwe> nalioth: what do you mean? I don't quite follow.
[09:08] <_native_> dude its like this sudo ./reaplayer enter that simple
[09:08] <it> sdakota:  I have 64
[09:08] <_native_> the synaptic way sucks
[09:08] <nightvision> sdakota: I think I am going to start from scratch again
[09:08] <sdakota> nightvision: it's a very small cd, that fetches all files from the internet - I used it because the cd drive in the server is ***** up... but there seems to be none for breezy...
[09:09] <nalioth> mwe: when you get rid of your windows, you can convert that space into ext3 filesystem
[09:09] <nightvision> to see if it will help
[09:09] <sdakota> it: I guessed that.
[09:09] <sdakota> it: Ehh.... Sec
[09:09] <_native_> it installs it under /usr/bin when it should be under /usr/local/
[09:09] <nightvision> sdakota:Im going to re-install now brb
[09:09] <sdakota> it: #error You need to define a CONTEXT for your CPU
[09:09] <chapium> _native_: why does synaptic sux?
[09:09] <nalioth> mwe: you can then change or add the fstab to mount it in /mnt.  from /mnt/your_new_partition  you can symlink that into your $HOMEDIR
[09:09] <chapium> ah
[09:09] <sdakota> nightvision: good idea
[09:09] <it> sdakota:  How and where do I do that?
[09:10] <mwe> nalioth: yes
[09:11] <sdakota> it: Not sure... The CVS repository isn't updated that much, I think you have three choices
[09:11] <sdakota> it: Or you purchase the real version of Cedega, or you ask your question in #cedega, or you leave it
[09:11] <sdakota> it: Or you do it in the underground way - but I'm not going to ... hint you more about that ;)
[09:12] <Stormx2> Hey all!
[09:12] <it> sdakota:  I know what you mean.
[09:12] <_native_> sup Stormx2
[09:13] <sdakota> Hiya, Stormx2
[09:13] <sdakota> I'm gonna watch CSI guys, See you later =)
[09:14] <_native_> sdakota; CSI rulez..
[09:14] <_native_> :] 
[09:15] <sdakota> _native_, I like your taste ^^
[09:15] <INfamUS> ok, the download is done and im gonna go get some gas, i prolly WILL be back with a load of question
[09:15] <oofnik> so does anyone have an idea why breezy refuses to auto mount my USB stuff like hoary did?
[09:16] <_native_> oofnik; check your preferences->removable media settings.
[09:17] <_native_> where can i get good used laptops?
[09:17] <_native_> wait thats ot.
[09:20] <iamkirk> so.... how is it a fellow can update his drivers ?
[09:22] <it> Is there a support channel for wine?
[09:22] <oofnik> _native_ everything looks ok
[09:22] <whitynz> what kind of drivers iamkirk
[09:23] <iamkirk> video
[09:23] <|mp|> is there a binary package for usb speedtouch modem, or does one need to do as said here: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/??
[09:23] <whitynz> nvidia?
[09:23] <iamkirk> ati
[09:23] <alban__> Hello, I've just installed Ubuntu 5.04 and I can't launch synaptic, gdmsetup or other from the "System" menu (it says "child terminated with status 1"). In fact, I am not in the sudoers.
[09:23] <whitynz> uh haven't done ati
[09:23] <nalioth> it try #wine
[09:23] <whitynz> so pass
[09:23] <iamkirk> i use an ati mobility 9000
[09:24] <it> nalioth:  Says I don't have channel operator access to [#wine] 
[09:24] <alban__> I believed that the first user is in sudoers (?)
[09:24] <bDerrly> should i be using "en_US" or "en_US.UTF-8" for my $LANG?
[09:24] <nalioth> it ok, then there's nobody there, try #winehq
[09:24] <LjL> alban__: the first user created is a member of the "admin" group, which in turn is in /etc/sudoers
[09:25] <nightvision> sdakota:I got it to work!
[09:25] <nightvision> :P
[09:25] <_native_> oofnik; what kind of device or devices
[09:25] <_native_> ?
[09:25] <sdakota> nightvision: Nice =)
[09:25] <nightvision> thx
[09:25] <oofnik> _native_ anything i try, CF card, mp3 player, usb2 hard drive.. they all worked under hoary
[09:26] <tga> any idea on what's the best way to sync Evolution data between two machines?
[09:26] <LjL> alban__: just try typing "sudo cat /etc/sudoers". if you can read that file (using your user's password of course), then you're a sudoer
[09:26] <_native_> oofnik;  i have no idea sad to say i have none of those devices.. it sucks ;[
[09:26] <alban__> LjL, I am in the group "adm" but there is no mention of adm or admin in /etc/sudoers
[09:26] <martman> could i change my sources file to a ubuntu mirror and "upgrade"
[09:26] <martman> without apt hell?
[09:27] <SGershon> Hi.
[09:27] <oofnik> _native_ hah thanks anyway.. i'm having second thoughts about breezy, there are some weird things going on i'm not so happy about..
[09:27] <nalioth> martman: where are you coming from?
[09:27] <mister_roboto> I installed grub with Suse Linux a long time ago. Now I boot Ubuntu on another partition but the grub menu is still on the Suse partition. I want to abandon that partition and have grub run from the Ubuntu one. Any idea how I can reconfigure it?
[09:27] <alban__> LjL, I use "su" to read /etc/sudoers
[09:27] <martman> nalioth stable
[09:27] <LjL> alban__: uh? you use "su"? but then you've enabled the root account
[09:27] <LjL> alban__: but, wait, you're using hoary?
[09:28] <alban__> enabled ?
[09:28] <LjL> alban__: the root account is disabled by default in ubuntu
[09:28] <alban__> I use 5.04
[09:28] <SGershon> I have a "sda1" icon on my Desktop, htat when clicked says: The folder contents could not be displayed.
[09:28] <ZzeCoOl> Hello  i have unrar installed and im trying to unrar moulti rar files but doesnt working
[09:28] <ZzeCoOl> any clue?
[09:28] <LjL> alban__: which, if i'm not mistaken, is Hoary, which means that you "just installed" an obsolete version ;)
[09:28] <nalioth> martman: this is the safest way (least headaches). back up your homedir and read this >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[09:28] <SGershon> It is very annoying. How can I change the location it ispointing at?
[09:28] <martman> nalioth thanks
[09:28] <alban__> oh :-(
[09:28] <SGershon> And why I don't have permissions to see the contents?
[09:28] <LjL> 5.04 is hoary, isn't it?
[09:29] <dooglus> ZzeCoOl: "unrar-nonfree" is better
[09:29] <_native_> oofnik; just learn the area of usb and ubuntu im sure its just a minor misconfig or somthing. reasearch udev, hal, gnome-volume-manager, and d-bus and you'll know your shizzle. ;] 
[09:29] <mister_roboto> SGershon: mount points are defined in /etc/fstab.
[09:29] <ZzeCoOl> dooglus:  with this i can unrar using anrchive manager?
[09:29] <LjL> alban__: you could upgrade to breezy (the current version), but maybe you're better of reinstalling from scratch, YMMV
[09:29] <martman> nalioth ok, not exactly what i was lookng for lol
[09:30] <dooglus> ZzeCoOl: I don't know.  I don't use GUIs for that kind of thing
[09:30] <LjL> alban__: anyway, let me understand, you have a root password in ubuntu?
[09:30] <Ykstort> Oi!
[09:30] <Lewis> hi, i cam in earlier with the internet connection problem on ubuntu, well, it doesn't work :(
[09:30] <Ykstort> Why isn't the Human theme availiable anywhere
[09:30] <Lewis> *came
[09:30] <Ykstort> The GNOME one
[09:30] <alban__> LjL, yes I booted from the CD 5.04 and typed "expert"
[09:30] <oofnik> _native_ thanks i will check it out
[09:30] <LjL> alban__: aaaagh
[09:30] <SGershon> mister_roboto, I see. And sda1 is probably my WinXP partition, right?
[09:30] <nalioth> martman: i think you'll have package version wars any other way
[09:31] <InitMass> where do i find info about mirrors for multiverse?
[09:31] <alban__> LjL, and I set a password for me and for root
[09:31] <ZzeCoOl> dooglus:  so the cmd is unrar e "*.rar"?
[09:31] <_native_> oofnik; i have some great links that explain how ubuntu handles devices. if you want me to paste em in the pastebin.
[09:31] <LjL> alban__: having a root account enabled breaks things. installing as "expert" prompt for a root account password
[09:31] <SGershon> How can I see that sda1 partition?
[09:31] <oofnik> _native_ yeah please that would be nice
[09:31] <_native_> ok pasting now. ;] 
[09:31] <mister_roboto> SGershon: no idea. what is the file type in /etc/fstab? do a 'man fstab' to see how to configure mount points
[09:31] <oofnik> _native_ i'm reading the man page on udev now
[09:31] <mister_roboto>  I installed grub with Suse Linux a long time ago. Now I boot Ubuntu on another partition but the grub menu is still on the Suse partition. I want to abandon that partition and have grub run from the Ubuntu one. Any idea how I can reconfigure it?
[09:32] <LjL> alban__: if i were you, i would reinstall using a Breezy CD. that said, you can upgrade to breezy and disable the root account
[09:32] <dooglus> ZzeCoOl: I use "x" not "e"
[09:32] <SGershon> mister_roboto, "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw)
[09:32] <SGershon> "
[09:32] <gib8> hi i wanna install an *.deb
[09:32] <alban__> LjL, but I have some data on my hard disk I don't want to lose. I believed that "expert" was the only way not to destroy my data. Was I wrong ?
[09:32] <dooglus> ZzeCoOl: then you get the files put in the right place, in sub-folders
[09:32] <mister_roboto> SGershon: yep, sounds like windows (ntfs)
[09:32] <gib8> and its for kde and says i should install kdelibs4 but i alredy have installed it
[09:33] <gib8> knows someone an hint?
[09:33] <LjL> alban__: yes, my HD is full of stuff (both in other partitions *and* in the partition where Ubuntu is), i did not install as "expert", and i did not lose a thing
[09:33] <Ykstort> I can't find Ubuntu's "Human" theme for GNOME anywhere :(
[09:33] <SGershon> Do you know how to read (even write maybe) from/to windows partitions from ubuntu?
[09:34] <LjL> SGershon: if those windows partitions use NTFS, you can not (or should not, anyway) write to them
[09:34] <sophie_> SGershon: what type of partition ntfs or fat32
[09:34] <LjL> SGershon: you can definitely read from them, easily
[09:34] <SGershon> ntfs
[09:34] <sophie_> LjL: I've heard ntfs write support is getting better
[09:34] <LjL> !tell SGershon about ntfs
[09:34] <mister_roboto> SGershon: if you go to a root shell, like with "sudo -s" can you "cd /media/sda1" and read it?
[09:34] <alban__> LjL, ok, thank you for your help. I will install the last ubuntu
[09:34] <Ykstort> Linux write support is pretty much experimental still
[09:34] <INfamUS> what do i need to do to install umbutu from download?
[09:34] <SGershon> LjL, sophie_ , ntfs
[09:34] <SGershon> mister_roboto, I'll try
[09:34] <LjL> sophie_: could be, but i wouldn't recommend it yet
[09:34] <INfamUS> whets the next setep after DLing it
 I can't find Ubuntu's "Human" theme for GNOME anywhere :(
[09:36] <LjL> SGershon: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdXX /place/to/mount    is the quick way, but that will only give read access to root
[09:36] <LjL> SGershon: if you want to read the filesystem as a normal user, follow the instructions in ubotu's link
[09:36] <iamkirk> anyone know where i can find a driver for an ati mobility radeon 9000 vid card ?
[09:36] <Ykstort> Edit /etc/fstab
[09:36] <Ykstort> do man fstab to find out what to change
[09:36] <SGershon> Yes, you are all right: using root I can see the files.
[09:36] <SGershon> I'll see htat link ow.
[09:37] <mister_roboto> iamkirk: xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[09:37] <oofnik> i'll be back
[09:37] <iamkirk> mister , could you clarify ? :P
[09:38] <LjL> SGershon: specifically, i think typing "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdXX /place/to/mount -o fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000" will do the trick (i've built this command line using the info from that site ubotu gave you)
[09:38] <mister_roboto> iamkirk: i think that's the driver for that card. i have it in my laptop and it just installed after auto-detect during install
[09:38] <Kerstin> cheers everyone..
[09:38] <mxktmdude> hello everyone, im thinking about using ubuntu, but have a few questions.. one is, deos it use apt-get for packages? and do i have access to all the packages which are accesible to debians package list?
[09:38] <Ykstort>  <Ykstort> I can't find Ubuntu's "Human" theme for GNOME anywhere :(
[09:38] <iamkirk> do you have any problems playing any games roboto ?
[09:38] <mister_roboto> ati!
[09:38] <LjL> mxktmdude: question 1: yes, question 2: almost
[09:39] <mister_roboto> iamkirk: sorry, don't play games on my laptop but the opengl screensavers all work and are fast
[09:39] <gimmulf_> i havent made a package of it
[09:39] <LjL> mxktmdude: specifically, as far as question 2 is concerned, ubuntu is synced with Debian Unstable every 6 months, so (save exceptional cases perhaps) you get all of Debian's packages that were in Debian at worst 6 months ago
[09:39] <Ykstort> OI!
[09:39] <iamkirk> the reason i am looking is because when try play counterstrike the game loads , music and such , but it doesnt show video... the screen just goes white slowly
[09:39] <Ykstort> I WANT HUMAN GNOME THEME BITCHES!
[09:39] <LjL> mxktmdude: on the other hand, Ubuntu also includes some packages that aren't in debian
[09:39] <gimmulf_> I just compilled fluxbox with Xinerama how do i make my computer using it, i tried logging out into gdm , choosed fluxbox and logged in but its still my old fluxbox version
[09:39] <gimmulf_> i havent made a package of it
[09:39] <gimmulf_> just make install
[09:40] <mxktmdude> LjL: i see, i dont think thats that bad then
[09:40] <mister_roboto> iamkirk: have you tried looking at the ubuntu wiki or maybe ATI's web site?
[09:40] <sophie_> LjL: /help chii
[09:40] <mister_roboto> iamkirk: sorry, don't know any more
[09:40] <LjL> mxktmdude: on the other hand, not that you must *NOT* use debian repositories or packages in Ubuntu, unless you know what you're doing really really well
[09:40] <sophie_> LjL: /help
[09:41] <LjL> sophie_: ?
[09:41] <erUSUL> gimmulf, uninstall the old one
[09:41] <sophie_> LjL: irssi is acting up sorry
[09:41] <gimmulf_> erUSUL:  and then make install again?
[09:41] <mister_roboto> I installed grub with Suse Linux a long time ago. Now I boot Ubuntu on another partition but the grub menu is still on the Suse partition. I want to abandon that partition and have grub run from the Ubuntu one. Any idea how I can reconfigure it?
[09:41] <erUSUL> gimmulf, no need
[09:41] <mxktmdude> LjL: i was kinda worried as someone said to me that ubuntu was kinda branching away into its own sort of package list and therefore limiting on available packages
[09:42] <induma> wenas!
[09:42] <induma> alguien que hable espaol??
[09:42] <_native_> who
[09:42] <LjL> mxktmdude: well, in a way, that's true. some developers create Debian packages of their software, even though these packages don't end up in the official Debian repositories.
[09:42] <erUSUL> induma, por favor vete a #ubuntu-es este canal es en ingls
[09:43] <gimmulf_> erUSUL:  are you sure? i just compilled it in /home/myuser/fluxboxdir
[09:43] <LjL> mxktmdude: you won't be able to use those packages in Ubuntu (or, you might, if you're lucky and brave enough to try)
[09:43] <induma> gracias, no sabia que existia ;)
[09:43] <|mp|> instaled 5.10, first boot was fine, but second time booting failed and stopped with this meesage:  /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off - ???
[09:43] <mxktmdude> LjL: i run fc4 so im kinda in the situation of wanting a debian distro that has better package management so i dont break my system so much on dependencies etc lol
[09:44] <SGershon> LjL, site is empty?
[09:44] <erUSUL> gimmulf, the one you compiled is in /usr/local and the one you instaled is in /usr that's why it get run
[09:44] <LjL> mxktmdude: well, my personal opinion is that ubuntu could be well suited for what you're looking for
[09:44] <gimmulf_> ahha ok erUSUL
[09:44] <gimmulf_> thanks
[09:44] <erUSUL> gimmulf, np
[09:44] <LjL> SGershon: what site? the one ubuntu gave you?
[09:44] <SGershon> LjL, it says that there is no wiki entry with this name...
[09:44] <Eliasz> hey all, im thnking of switching to ubuntu on my desktop PC, i want to run apache, shorewall, ssh, unrealirc and fluxbox, will i be able to get this hassel free with ubuntu?
[09:44] <LjL> SGershon: but, there is
[09:44] <SGershon> Weird, right?
[09:45] <LjL> SGershon: aah it's trimming the link i think
[09:45] <LjL> SGershon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:45] <gib8> hi does ubuntu also have testing versions? becouse i need some newer libraries for some programs
[09:45] <SGershon> ;)
[09:45] <SGershon> thanks!
[09:45] <mxktmdude> alright, i guess that answers it.... off to download the iso and clean the computer
[09:45] <mxktmdude> thanks everyon
[09:45] <mxktmdude> e
[09:45] <chris_> Hey ppl
[09:46] <LjL> gib8: wes, the current version under development is Dapper. but it's not "testing" like in the Debian sense. read the topic please.
[09:46] <SGershon> LjL, now its fine...
[09:46] <Eliasz> hey all, im thnking of switching to ubuntu on my desktop PC, i want to run apache, shorewall, ssh, unrealirc and fluxbox, will i be able to get this hassel free with ubuntu?
[09:46] <chris_> Im a new user to linux and I'm looking for some aid....
[09:46] <gib8> LjL, ah sorry i will read :)
[09:46] <Tauop> hi
[09:47] <mister_roboto> chris_: just ask your question. if someone knows they will answer
[09:47] <Tauop> who knows how I can make a phone call with my modem to speak with someone on the tel network ?
[09:47] <chris_> Can anyone tell me how I can make make my gfx card display more than 60hz modes?
[09:47] <Tauop> (without using skype)
[09:47] <chris_> My eyes are wearing out ;)
[09:47] <erUSUL> !tell chris_ about fixres
[09:48] <erUSUL> chris_, read what ubotu told you
[09:48] <gimmulf_> Hmmm when i uninstalled fluxbox now i cant choose the one i compilled from GDM
[09:48] <dducko> Eliasz, All of those, except unrealirc are in the pacackage manager
[09:48] <chris_> Thanks erUSUL ;)
[09:48] <gimmulf_> erUSUL: the compilled fluxbox wont appear in gdm
[09:49] <dducko> Eliasz, if you can get a deb or source of unrealirc should work just fine
[09:49] <Eliasz> thanx dducko, i have been using gentoo for the last couple months on both computer, now switching PC to ubuntu, maybe, b4 i was on debian, is this similar to debina, can i use apt?
[09:49] <dducko> yes
[09:50] <Eliasz> sweet deal, dlig live cd to check it otu
[09:50] <Eliasz> out
[09:50] <dducko> well im off to work, have fun everyone
[09:50] <Eliasz> 650 kb.s...w00t
[09:50] <Eliasz> thanx dducko
[09:50] <Lewis> i need help with ubuntu
[09:50] <Lewis> :(
[09:50] <Tauop> me too
[09:50] <_native_> ask your question then
[09:51] <Lewis> :)
[09:52] <spotswoode> I am upgrading from hoary (5.04) to breezy (5.10) any issues with NVIDA?
[09:52] <spotswoode> NVIDIA
[09:53] <gimmulf_> How do i get this /usr/local/bin/startfluxbox'  into GDM?
[09:53] <erUSUL> gimmulf_, read here http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_add_fluxbox_to_gdm
[09:53] <gimmulf_> great thanks
[09:53] <santi2005> alguien que hable en espaol
[09:54] <erUSUL> gimmulf_, googl is your friend
[09:54] <erUSUL> santi2005, por favor vete a #ubuntu-es este canal es en ingls
[09:54] <foampeace> hello
[09:54] <foampeace> does k3b not convert the mp3 to cd format before the burn?
[09:54] <mlalkaka> hi everyone. where's gnome's run application dialog in ubuntu? i dont see it anywhere in the menu.
[09:54] <johnclark> hello guys, is their somebody with experience about nxserver and AMD64 here???
[09:54] <GHead> if you choose "audio" format it does this automatically..
[09:55] <nalioth> foampeace: my k3b does
[09:55] <apokryphos> foampeace: you need k3b-mp3, and you have to tell it that you want an audio disc
[09:56] <albert> hello tonight's my first time on internet through Linux (Ubuntu distribution)
[09:56] <foampeace> nalioth: ok thanks
[09:56] <mister_roboto> albert: congratulations :)
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> thx to anywhow told me to dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg, it worked , tough i still have the xubuntu usplash
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> i've become uxubuntu whitout knowing it
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> weird
[09:57] <jorgg> When i try to use the Bittorrent program installed with breezy i cant get connection, it times out every time. Is there a way to configure or do something about it?
[09:57] <johnclark> hello guys, is their somebody with experience about nxserver and AMD64 here???
[09:57] <Lewis> well, i need help with the internet on ubuntu, i have broadband, with a DSL modem (speedtouch 330) but the driver CD for the modem, is a .exe file, and wont work on linux, i have tried a few coding stuff from different websites, but i am too 'stupid' to do that, so, is there an easier way of getting online, without editing code?
[09:57] <GMachine_24> Does anyone know a place to see the full work-around of the Skype-Debian(ubuntu) problem involving the error message concerning skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[09:57] <GMachine_24>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[09:57] <mister_roboto> !nxserver
[09:57] <ubotu> mister_roboto: Not a clue
[09:57] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: the splash has nothing to do with what software you use
[09:58] <B_166-ER-X> nalioth , well, i'm breezy -basic- install... and after my last reboot, my usplash is 'xubuntu'
[09:58] <B_166-ER-X> i'm trying to see why
[09:58] <mister_roboto> johnclark: if you can't get an answer here, you might try #kubuntu too (I have no clue)
[09:58] <LjL> Lewis: Package: "speedtouch", Description: userspace driver for the Alcatel Speedtouch USB ADSL Adapter
[09:58] <LjL> Lewis: this might be it
[09:58] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: did you install xubuntu-desktop  ?
[09:58] <Lewis> ok
[09:59] <Lewis> LjL, what shall i do?
[09:59] <albert> my default site www.planet.nl uses flash...I succeeded in installing the flashplayer, but I don't see any letters/fonts in the flash parts of the site. Any clue?
[09:59] <B_166-ER-X> i just did a synaptic search ; no, , no xubuntu desktop installed
[09:59] <B_166-ER-X> bu 'xubuntu usplash' and 'art' are
[10:00] <B_166-ER-X> weird
[10:00] <LjL> Lewis: well, i don't even have a DSL so i don't know for sure, but you should try installing that package (which won't necessarily be too easy, as you don't have a connection -- but download pool/universe/s/speedtouch/speedtouch_1.3.1-1_i386.deb  from any mirror, and then try running "sudo dpkg -i speedtouch_1.3.1-1_i386-deb")
[10:01] <erUSUL> Lewis, check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28769.html
[10:01] <moox> hi there ! I have installed java in /opt and Eclipse too (sun jvm). How can I change the "path" variable into GNOME to use this programs ? Actually I have to launch them thru a shell
[10:02] <nalioth> moox: add them to your path
[10:03] <mister_roboto> moox: add it to your ~/.bashrc  (export PATH=$PATH:<whatever>) and log back in
[10:03] <erUSUL> moox, you need to edit your .bashrc or .bash_profile and set export PATH=$PATH:/opt/whatever
[10:03] <mlalkaka> where is gnome's run application dialog in ubuntu?
[10:03] <nalioth> mister_roboto: there is no need to log out, just "source ~/.bashrc
[10:03] <thomerz> hi, i have an compaq nx8220, and my wlan led doesn't work, has anybody an idea what i can do?
[10:03] <apokryphos> mlalkaka: alt+f2 is always easiest
[10:03] <mister_roboto> yes, he can just source it but it might add extra stuff to the end :)
[10:03] <nalioth> moox:  there is no need to log out, just "source ~/.bashrc"
[10:03] <mister_roboto> if he's already appending things.   no harm though
[10:05] <moox> but the path in .bashrc is correct ! But it seems "not loaded" by gnome
[10:05] <sdakota_away> "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse"
[10:06] <erUSUL> moox, i quite do not understand you. You want a gnome menu entry for eclipse?
[10:07] <nalioth> moox: then you'll probably have to log out for gnome to recognize the change
[10:07] <moox> nalioth, I add them to .bashrc a few days ago
[10:07] <chris_> Has anyone ever had the problem that you dont get prompted to enter a password for user root when installing ubuntu?
[10:07] <moox> erUSUL, Yes, a gnome menu entry and an icon on my desktop
[10:07] <chris_> I can get on as root..
[10:07] <chris_> cant
[10:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chris_ about root
[10:08] <nalioth> chris_: ubuntu uses the 'sudo' model for superuser tasks
[10:08] <chris_> lol thanks. I'm a total n00b by the way
[10:08] <cafuego> chris_: feature, not bug
[10:08] <gimmulf> etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/  <---  why doesnt that dir exist
[10:08] <gimmulf> the vsession dir
[10:08] <chris_> So I cant log in to gnome with the root user?
[10:08] <jorge_> cause...it's outdated
[10:09] <LjL> cafuego: choice, not feature :)
[10:09] <jorge_> deprecated
[10:09] <erUSUL> moox, then use smeg for the menu and your right mouse button for the desktop icon... ;)
[10:09] <LjL> chris_: no, you can't and you shouldn't, even in a distribution that supports it
[10:09] <cafuego> chris_: indeed. But then, there is no need to.
[10:09] <gimmulf> jorge_:  whats it called
[10:09] <nalioth> gimmulf: are you looking for /usr/share/xsessions/   by chance?
[10:09] <erUSUL> gimmulf, in ubuntu is /etc/gdm/Sessions
[10:09] <jorge_> i dont know im just kidding lol
[10:09] <jorge_> sorry man
[10:09] <gimmulf> thanks
[10:09] <gimmulf> im following a man
[10:09] <moox> erUSUL, yeah but the problem is eclipse doesn't find my JVM after search in path. My path is correct !
[10:10] <karma_> http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/screenshots/shot_11-07-00_090358.jpg <-- can someone tell me E and gkrellm theme used at that screenshot?
[10:10] <chris_> thanks guys ;)
[10:10] <chris_> very helpful
[10:10] <nalioth> moox: what java are you using?
[10:10] <erUSUL> moox, if the path is correct it should find it
[10:10] <cafuego> moox: you more likely need to set JAVA_HOME than path, perhaps.
[10:10] <moox> nalioth, sun jvm
[10:10] <nalioth> moox: is java in your path correctly?
[10:11] <LjL> chris_: use "sudo command" whenever you have to run a command as root. use "sudo -i" if you want a root terminal (but use it sparingly).
[10:11] <cafuego> moox: did you install java via the recommended method? (via make-jpkg?)
[10:11] <moox> nalioth, Yes. When I type "java" in a shell, it find the program.
[10:11] <moox> cafuego, no, I installed it with .bin given by sun
[10:12] <cafuego> moox: That's most likely your problem then.
[10:12] <cafuego> moox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:12] <mlalkaka> apokryphos, thanks. are there any other ways to access it?
[10:12] <moox> There is the gnome error after clic on the eclipse icon : A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[10:12] <moox> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[10:12] <moox> was found after searching the following locations:
[10:12] <moox> /opt/eclipse/jre/bin/java
[10:12] <moox> 'java' in your current PATH
[10:12] <cafuego> eclipse is ALSO precompiled, so shouldn't be in /opt.
[10:12] <moox> but java is in my path !!
[10:12] <nalioth> moox: type 'java -version' in the shell
[10:12] <jorgg> When i try to use the Bittorrent program installed with breezy i cant get connection, it times out every time. Is there a way to configure or do something about it? Do bittorrent need special ports to opened?
[10:12] <cafuego> Why don't you trash all of those and just install the packages?
[10:12] <moox> java version "1.5.0_05"
[10:12] <moox> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_05-b05)
[10:12] <moox> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_05-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[10:12] <ElderGuardian> hello fellow 'bunters :)
[10:12] <apokryphos> mlalkaka: what were we talking about again?
[10:13] <moox> cafuego, packages compiled with gcj ?
[10:13] <mlalkaka> apokryphos, about the run application dialog
[10:13] <cafuego> moox: They run fine for me, any reason they wouldn't for you?
[10:13] <mlalkaka> apokryphos, lol sry i was afk
[10:13] <erUSUL> jorgg, try the official one
[10:13] <lightbright> hello
[10:13] <moox> cafuego, because I use others java applications and I need sun jvm...
[10:13] <jorgg> erUSUL: what is the name of that? where to download?
[10:14] <ElderGuardian> hey, I'm running 5.04, can anyone tell me why I should switch to 5.10???
[10:14] <cafuego> moox: That's why I told you about the wiki. Go look at that page.
[10:14] <apokryphos> mlalkaka: not sure what the gnome menu is like as I don't use it, but I imagine there would be (if not, right-click?)
[10:14] <LjL> ElderGuardian: you probably shouldn't, if it works for you
[10:14] <lightbright> is there a way to drag my icons from taskbar and/or icons frommenu to Desktop?  So that the Desktop has the icons on it?
[10:14] <moox> cafuego, ok, I'm going to read it. Thanks guys
[10:14] <LjL> ElderGuardian: although, i'm not sure how long security updates for your version will be out
[10:14] <ElderGuardian> LjL, point well taken :)
[10:14] <ElderGuardian> plus I like Ubuntu a lot
[10:14] <cafuego> moox: With that done, the prebuilt ubuntu eclipse packages will work just dandy.
[10:15] <mlalkaka> apokryphos, ok. i just got a reply in ##gnome. i have to add a panel applet. thanks for the short-cut key though.
[10:15] <lightbright> ElderGuardian: Why would you upgrade from Win 3.11 to Windows Xp?
[10:15] <erUSUL> jorgg, sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[10:15] <__a> j #ubuntu
[10:15] <ElderGuardian> lightbright, is the difference b/n 5.04 and 5.10 that big?
[10:15] <lightbright> cafuego: hello :) is there a way to drag my icons from taskbar and/or icons frommenu to Desktop?  So that the Desktop has the icons on it?
[10:15] <LjL> lightbright: well, i don't think it's nearly like that ;)
[10:15] <lightbright> ElderGuardian: yeah because of security updates :)
[10:15] <lightbright> LjL: ;)
[10:15] <ElderGuardian> well, a poor analogy then
[10:16] <ElderGuardian> lightbright, WinXp is pretty bad when it comes to security
[10:16] <lightbright> ElderGuardian: name one person who has never made a poor analogy
[10:16] <cafuego> lightbright: You can drag icons from the Applications menu to the desktop.
[10:16] <jorgg> erUSUL: looks like thats the version Im using, could the need of a open port in my router be the problem?
[10:16] <lightbright> ElderGuardian: have you ever made a poor analogy?
[10:16] <lightbright> cafuego: how can I drag icons from the taskbar to Desktop?
[10:16] <cafuego> lightbright: "not"
[10:16] <erUSUL> jorgg, yes it could be you have to open the apropiate ports
[10:17] <ElderGuardian> lightbright and LjL, I'm going to bittorrent the new release now
[10:17] <LjL> lightbright: by... dragging them? :)
[10:17] <lightbright> cafuego: so only way is to drag from applications menu?
[10:17] <chris_> Sorry, can anyone tell me how I open a readonly textfile with sudo priviledges...?
[10:17] <cafuego> lightbright: As far as I can tell, yes.
[10:17] <LjL> ElderGuardian: you can upgrade from hoary
[10:17] <apokryphos> chris_: gksudo gedit sometextfile.txt
[10:17] <cafuego> lightbright: You could also right-click and choose 'Add launcher...' but that takes far longer.
[10:17] <LjL> ElderGuardian: you don't have to reinstall from scratch using a boot CD
[10:17] <ElderGuardian> with apt-get?
[10:17] <LjL> ElderGuardian: yes
[10:17] <lightbright> ElderGuardian: seeing you yourself have made a bad analogy in the past, dont accuse someone else of doing something you are guilty of yourself :)  fair? ;)
[10:17] <jorgg> erUSUL:  is there a place in linux to open/close ports?
[10:18] <lightbright> ElderGuardian: :)
[10:18] <LjL> !tell ElderGuardian about breezy
[10:18] <lightbright> cafuego: ok ty :)
[10:18] <cafuego> jorgg: Ports are closed unless opened by an application.
[10:18] <MenZa`> Hi
[10:18] <ElderGuardian> LjL, I am going to be afk now thanks to the link you provided :)
[10:18] <erUSUL> jorgg, if you donot installed a firewall tool there is not firewall configurated by default
[10:18] <ElderGuardian> peace to you all.
[10:18] <MenZa`> I've just installed kubuntu-desktop (from a ubuntu terminal) - do I just reboot to launch KDE?
[10:19] <jorgg> cafuego: so program skhould deal with it self? dont need to open ports in firewall or something like that?
[10:19] <LjL> MenZa`: no need to reboot
[10:19] <jorgg> okay i see
[10:19] <cafuego> MenZa`: No. Logout, choose KDE from the sessions menu on the login window.
[10:19] <LjL> MenZa`: just logout from X and login again
[10:19] <lightbright> MenZa`: was it about 140mb?>
[10:19] <MenZa`> lightbright: Didn't take a long time :)
[10:19] <cafuego> jorgg: No, if an application listens on a port (with a number over 1024) it should do that all by itself.
[10:20] <lightbright> MenZa`: i tried it on modem :) hehe
[10:20] <mister_roboto> cafuego: and under 1024 too :)
[10:20] <cafuego> mister_roboto: only when run as root.
[10:20] <jorgg> cafuego: okay thanks
[10:20] <mister_roboto> caguego: but it still opens the port ;)
[10:21] <LjL> mister_roboto: does it?
[10:21] <mister_roboto> LjL: sure.  just enable telnet or ANY service under 1024
[10:22] <mister_roboto> or start a web server
[10:22] <LjL> mister_roboto: but if i "enable" telnet, that will be run as root
[10:22] <LjL> all stuff that's run as root
[10:22] <mister_roboto> LjL: yes, but the port is still open is all I am saying
[10:22] <dragonbyte> i need some help with the ubuntu kernel please.  I am trying to install vmware and it needs to compile some modules
[10:22] <arne> my ubuntu did not play mp3, why?
[10:22] <LjL> mister_roboto: no, when running the service as root, it isn't...
[10:23] <dragonbyte> but ubuntu installs gcc-4.0 and the kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4
[10:23] <LjL> mister_roboto: i mean, when NOT running it as root
[10:23] <cafuego> dragonbyte: You will need 'gcc-3.4' and 'kernel-headers-($uname -r)'
[10:23] <freek> anyone here using evolution with a remote ics calendar file?
[10:23] <mister_roboto> LjL: actually, root has to open the port but the process can then switch ownership to another uid
[10:23] <Kzar[dot] net> Hi, I didn't succeed in enabling MIDI sound support on my i810 chipset laptop... any idea ?
[10:24] <dragonbyte> cafuego: i cant find a kernel-headers package that matches the 2.6.12-10-k7 kernel
[10:24] <LjL> mister_roboto: yes but if you *start* the process from a user other than root, the port won't open.
[10:24] <gimmulf> where is the new dir for : /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/ ? forgot...
[10:24] <LjL> mister_roboto: and that's what cafuego was saying
[10:24] <mister_roboto> LjL: ok, I missed that part
[10:25] <qjimbo> hmm this is odd
[10:25] <mister_roboto> LjL: thought he was just talking about the port being open if an app is listening on it. there is no restriction to be over 1024 for that to be true
[10:25] <dylan_> why isnt there any viruses for linux?  if linux's popularity grows, would there be more viruses?
[10:25] <gimmulf> where is the new dir for : /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/ ? forgot...
[10:25] <Kzar[dot] net> dylan_, don't troll please.
[10:26] <Echelon> Is there a specific task that i must use to install development tools on ubuntu?
[10:26] <erUSUL> gimmulf,  /etc/gdm/Sessions/
[10:26] <LjL> mister_roboto: no, sure. but an app that's running unpriviledged can only open ports above 1024
[10:26] <qjimbo> I copied my /usr folder to my other harddrive, then renamed the old /usr to /usrold, then created a symlink from /usr to the new location (/media/data/ubuntu/usr) and with most things it works, but with some stuff it fails =/
[10:26] <nalioth> dylan_: as long as users use *nix properly, there shouldn't be too many virusses aimed at them
[10:26] <erUSUL> gimmulf, just take a look around... ;)
[10:26] <mister_roboto> LjL: agreed. i'm not arguing on that point :)
[10:26] <Kzar[dot] net> Echelon, depends on what kind of languages you use for dev
[10:26] <dragonbyte> cafuego: wait...linux-headers not kernel-headers :) found it i think
[10:27] <Echelon> Kzar[dot] net, well, i'm looking to compile some c code, and i have yet to come across the packages i need
[10:27] <dylan_> Kzar[dot] net, i wasnt trolling, nor were my intentions
[10:27] <LjL> Echelon: install build-essential
[10:27] <Echelon> i come across the error" checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:27] <Kzar[dot] net> Echelon, the right package is build-essential
[10:27] <Echelon> ah
[10:27] <Echelon> thanks :)
[10:27] <dragonbyte> anyone know what version the orinoco drivers are in 2.6.12-10?
[10:28] <Kzar[dot] net> dylan_, there is already some linux virii, and theer will be more and more.
[10:28] <gimmulf> erUSUL:  that one isd outdated
[10:28] <Echelon> Kzar[dot] net, LjL, thanks lots :)
[10:28] <zurn> help!
[10:28] <MenZa`> zurn: huh?
[10:28] <qjimbo> whats the problem zurn?
[10:28] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, I'm using orinoco drivers but don't know how to retrieve version number...
[10:29] <j813> hi, how do I install .deb files?
[10:29] <zurn> trying to install ndiswrapper!
[10:29] <chris_> Hola again. I've seen that I can download drivers from ATI for linux for my x800xt. Is this a total impossibility for a new linux user to manage?
[10:29] <zurn> when I get to the make command I get an error
[10:29] <qjimbo> it's not too hard chris
[10:29] <qjimbo> there's a tutorial
[10:29] <qjimbo> hold on let me find it
[10:29] <chris_> k
[10:30] <zurn> anyone?
[10:30] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, what is this error ?
[10:30] <zurn> make: command not found
[10:30] <Echelon> zurn, are you using the default kernel?
[10:30] <hedge> Does anyone have a solution for the ndiswrapper not working after compiling a vanilla 2.6.14 kernel?
[10:31] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, install the packaque build-essential
[10:31] <qjimbo> chris_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=20&pp=10
[10:31] <gimmulf> sudo: gdm-restart: command not found   -- shouldnt that work?
[10:31] <qjimbo> whoops make that http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[10:31] <zurn> default kernel yes
[10:31] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:31] <Echelon> there's an ndiswrapper package for the default kernel
[10:31] <hedge> gimmulf, /ect.init.d/gdm start/stop
[10:31] <chris_> qjimbo: Thanks man appreciate it
[10:31] <introdoos> question>> i have WinXp installed on my primary HD and ubuntu on the secondary HD. How do i modify 'Grub(loader)' in such a way that it waits for 9 seconds and then start WinXP unless i move press the arrow keys and select Ubuntu manually?
[10:31] <Echelon> im going to pop out for a bit, take it easy.
[10:31] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, installing!
[10:32] <qjimbo> introdoos: oh you'd want to open the menu.lst file and change the default option
[10:32] <erUSUL> hedge, you need to patch the kernel. vanilla does not come with ndiswraper. you at least need to recompile ndiswraper
[10:32] <erUSUL> hedge, and do not forget to choose 8k stacks in kernel config
[10:32] <dpupp> what do i need to get midi working? i want to be able to load a midi in totem without error.
[10:32] <hedge> introdoos,  modify the /boot./grub/menu.lst
[10:32] <DsM> what do you all reccomend to use for web browsing... firefox seems slow at rendering pages
[10:32] <qjimbo> introdoos: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst from the terminal
[10:32] <introdoos> ok.. thanks a lot :)
[10:33] <ScreaminIke> I'M RUNNIN UBUNTU
[10:33] <hedge> I tried recompliling the ndiswrapper and modprobe fails
[10:33] <qjimbo> COngrats
[10:33] <ScreaminIke> THROUGH DIALUP
[10:33] <Kzar[dot] net> ScreaminIke, great ! :)
[10:33] <ScreaminIke> WHOOO!
[10:33] <dragonbyte> cafuego: uhm...i have linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 and linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7 but vmware says it cant make modules that can be inserted because of unresolved symbosl
[10:33] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net,  ok the make command works now, but I get a buch of errors
[10:34] <qjimbo> I forgot that using dialup means you can only use capital letters on IRC
[10:34] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, errors or warnings ?
[10:34] <DsM> anyone know where to get other desktop themes for ubuntu that look good?
[10:34] <hedge> erUSUL, is there a ndispatch I can add to the vanilla kernel, if so would you know where I can obtain such a patch?
[10:34] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[10:35] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, and such
[10:35] <Kzar[dot] net> DsM,  www.happypenguin.org
[10:35] <qjimbo> DsM: http://themes.freshmeat.net/
[10:35] <j813> how can I search for a file in apt? :)
[10:35] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[10:35] <erUSUL> hedge, find the homepage of ndiswraper (google) and look there
[10:35] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, ok, you need the kernel sources
[10:35] <zurn> i downloaded them....
[10:35] <hedge> zurn,  your looking for linux-tree
[10:36] <DsM> hey im using the defualt... gnome... do you recommend me changing to KDE or something? it seems to load webpages slowly
[10:36] <PinTo> where did u lot learn all these commands cos i've been lookin at some guides and they cover about 1
[10:36] <PinTo> %
[10:36] <hedge> erUSUL,  I downloaded it from there already does /apply work for the uncompiled source?
[10:36] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net,  sorry, nope I did'nt
[10:37] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net,  so I can find this in Synaptic?
[10:37] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn,  install the kernel-source packaqe
[10:37] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, kernel-source-2.6.11?
[10:37] <hedge> zuen, Synaptic-yes
[10:37] <qjimbo> this is so wierd, everything apart from Gnome's pixmaps work with my /usr -> /media/data/ubuntu/usr symbolic link, anyone know why?
[10:37] <erUSUL> hedge, i've never used ndiswrapper myself i do not know
[10:37] <hedge> zurn,  Synaptic-yes
[10:37] <dragonbyte> can anyone help me with this kernel compile issue?
[10:38] <zurn> hedge, thx!
[10:38] <hedge> :P
[10:38] <PinTo> dragonbyte wish i could
[10:38] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, ask
[10:38] <PinTo> i have had compile issues of my own...then had to format ...i installed off same disk but it didnt wrok the same after ?
[10:38] <navarone> dragon> i can't even get new xchat to compile...lol
[10:39] <dylan_> Kzar[dot] net, do you think that if linux were to be as popular as windows that it will have as many viruses?
[10:39] <Kzar[dot] net> dylan_, of course yes.
[10:39] <dragonbyte> I have linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 installed, i am running on linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7, but vmware compiles its modules against the headers and gets unresolved symbols
[10:39] <PinTo> linux has a mind of its own
[10:39] <navarone> dylan> base number of users increases then it becomes bigger target
[10:39] <Bl4cKOuT> salve...
[10:39] <dspstv> hi all, im getting a irq11: nobody cared error message at boot time, it suggest booting with a irqpoll option could someone explain me whats going on there?
[10:39] <Kzar[dot] net> navarone, I agree
[10:39] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, I installed the kermel source and I get the same error!
[10:39] <PinTo> i think my last installation Scrwd up somewhere without n e prompts
[10:40] <dragonbyte> fort knox is a big target, but that doesnt mean its easier to hold up fort knox than your local Kmart
[10:40] <chris_> How do I know my kernel version?
[10:40] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, hey, you know a good linux virus ? Ido: sudo rm -rf /
[10:40] <navarone> kzar> I would hope that whe that hhappens that Linux users would be a bit more savvy when it comes to security and protection
[10:40] <PinTo> an error message would be nice under these circumstances
[10:40] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: hardly a virus
[10:40] <erUSUL> dspstv, kernel bug or bad hardware...
[10:40] <Bl4cKOuT> there are italian?
[10:40] <zurn> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[10:40] <Kzar[dot] net> navarone, new Linux users aren't
[10:41] <erUSUL> chris_, uname -a
[10:41] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: any ideas?
[10:41] <PinTo> zurn its probably something realy important that u missed out
[10:41] <zurn> PinTo, like??
[10:41] <chris_> thanks erUSUL
[10:41] <dspstv> erUSUL, thanks...o si guess ill chill about it..
[10:41] <PinTo> zurn dunno just install everything and then try it
[10:41] <navarone> Kzar> I have only used maybe 4 distros and mostly have experience as a home user in windows...but I was always pretty mindful of security even <or especially> in windows
[10:41] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, hey, that was an exemple. Imagine I put a Cedega .deb package with this comment as post-install script and throw it on edonkey networks...
[10:42] <PinTo> then again dont do that
[10:42] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, i do not know... maybe vmware module is incompatible with the ubuntu kernel. i've never installed it myself
[10:42] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: thats still not a virus
[10:42] <PinTo> i thaught linux was bullet proof?
[10:42] <apokryphos> not from bugs 8)
[10:42] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: iloveyou.txt.vbs isnt a virus its a "User stupidity trick"
[10:42] <zurn> PinTo, install all the kernel sources?
[10:42] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, of course not but that's the idea that it can makes damages to many ubuntu users :)
[10:43] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net,  any ideas?\
[10:43] <PinTo> maybe your missing a pakage ...i dunno
[10:43] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: If I trick you into running rm -Rf / or format c: or whatever, its a stupid user trick, not a virus
[10:43] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: virus, worm, etc have fairly specific technical definitions the media completly ignores when talking about things of that nature
[10:43] <navarone> Pinto> only os that would be bullet proof would be one based on etchasketch...shake to reboot...<s>
[10:43] <PinTo> maybe u havent copied the kernel to the correct directory...or u have ahave typo
[10:43] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, yes. Then making a virus installed form a .deb (that it's handled by root user) is easy.
[10:44] <PinTo> who's knows MAN
[10:44] <HedgeMage> This may be a dumb question, but here goes anyway... I'm helping hubby do an ubuntu install (his first time on Linux)... he's planning to run some windoze games via cedega... will these (32 bit) windows games run on 64-bit ubuntu?
[10:44] <dooglus> dylan_: to read about how viruses have a hard time spreading on Linux, see here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[10:44] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: www.google.com define computer virus
[10:44] <nalioth> Kzar[dot] net: there are checksums in place with the dpkg / apt-get system. if you install strange debs, you get what you get
[10:45] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: you are still talking about stupid user tricks not real a real virus/worm
[10:45] <Kzar[dot] net> nalioth, anyone can makes a .Deb
[10:45] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, yes I do :)
[10:46] <nalioth> Kzar[dot] net: yes and your point? i covered that with my previous sentence
[10:46] <rat> #ubundu-it
[10:46] <erUSUL> Kzar[dot] net, but not everybody can put the deb in ubuntu servers and signed with the gpg key of ubuntu
[10:47] <qjimbo> is there a way of telling gnome to look somewhere else for pixmaps?
[10:47] <PinTo> how come help in ubuntu only gives u have of the command when summat goes wrong....it has me guessing for hrs
[10:47] <ngoagr> hello!! can anyone help me with xine??? iam trying to play a divx movie that i have but it gives me an error of  : audio codec mpeg layer 2/3.   and it doesn't have sound.....
[10:47] <Kzar[dot] net> nalioth, first, it's easy to spread a package that contain nasty stufs. Ok, that is not a virus as it can't spread itself.
[10:47] <dragonbyte> has anyone else had problems gettling linux-image/linux-headers for 2.6.12-10-k7 to match up?
[10:47] <PinTo> half*
[10:47] <kkathman> hi need some help on troubleshooting the network on my box please :)
[10:47] <qjimbo> Kzar[dot] net: Yeah that'd be a trojan
[10:48] <Kzar[dot] net> qjimbo, right.
[10:48] <qjimbo> Sub7 for Linux XD that'd be evil
[10:48] <dragonbyte> trojans have far less to do with the OS then they do with the user
[10:48] <erUSUL> !tell ngoagr about mp3
[10:48] <kkathman> anyone here have experience in troubleshooting network probs?
[10:48] <ngoagr> hmm!
[10:49] <sarcar> kkathman, just ask, then probably someone may help ;)
[10:49] <nalioth> dragonbyte: what is the problem with the source?
[10:49] <PinTo> the last one was after this type /etc/lilo.conf when i had to type /usr/etc/lilo.conf man that sucks
[10:49] <dragonbyte> nalioth: i dunno, when i compiled the vmnet etc modules it comes back saying unresolved symbols
[10:49] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, some libs may have security issues unknow actually. the more people migrate to Linux, the more chance they could be discovered.
[10:49] <PinTo> too many loose ends
[10:49] <kkathman> I have network connected, other machines have internet on the network. One linux box has eth0 set ok, params ok, but no connection to internet for some reason
[10:50] <PinTo> RANT over
[10:50] <nalioth> dragonbyte: oh. i thought you had other troubles
[10:50] <Kzar[dot] net> Ok, most if not all linux softwares are open sources
[10:50] <dragonbyte> nalioth: well the vmware installer says the headers dont match the running kernel
[10:50] <erUSUL> kkathman, maybe nameserver issues
[10:50] <dspstv> if im getting a No DHCPOFFERS received, i have a network listening under ubuntu..will this error only mean u have problems in the DHCP server  side or could it be some network card problem in the client?
[10:50] <nalioth> dragonbyte: the running kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4. install that and try again
[10:50] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net,  any ideas?
[10:51] <dragonbyte> nalioth: yup, if i try with 4.0 it wont even try the compile
[10:51] <kkathman> erUSUL in my internet settings the DHCP and DNS server are both set to what they should be
[10:51] <Kzar[dot] net> dspstv, is your Ubuntu the DHCP server ? then is there a firewall on it ?
[10:51] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: user base doesnt really = virus vulnerability
[10:51] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, sorry but not really
[10:52] <nalioth> Kzar[dot] net: take your virus talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:52] <erUSUL> dragonbyte,  Make sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules directory. /lib/modules/VERSION/build have to link to /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version>
[10:52] <dspstv> Kzar[dot] net, no my ubunto is just a client
[10:52] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, users base expension means linux developpers expension means linux hackers base expension means...
[10:52] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: there is
[10:52] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: flawed reasoning
[10:52] <lamp_> is ubuntu going to kde
[10:53] <PinTo> Dragonbyte u need a kernel howto ?
[10:53] <zurn> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[10:53] <zurn>  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[10:53] <dragonbyte> PinTo: no, i just want to avoid building a new kernel altogether, woudl rather stick with the packaged one and headers
[10:53] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: most users aren't developers for one
[10:53] <erUSUL> zurn, kernel source must be in /usr/src/linux-...
[10:53] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, I agree, only a part of them are.
[10:54] <PinTo> right   ..i need a new kernel but things keep getting in the way
[10:54] <bahblahblahbah> hi
[10:54] <dragonbyte> Kzar[dot] net: and that still doesnt mean more viruses
[10:54] <Kzar[dot] net> dragonbyte, so it's mathematic: grow the user base will grow the developpers base
[10:54] <zurn> erUSUL,  get this error when I try sudo make
[10:54] <nalioth> dragonbyte: Kzar[dot] net: y'all take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:54] <erUSUL> zurn, what are you triyng to do?
[10:54] <bahblahblahbah> How does linux use access API?
[10:54] <PinTo> how can 2 installations off the same disk on the same computer be different ?
[10:54] <zurn> erUSUL, install ndiswrapper
[10:54] <Kzar[dot] net> nalioth, hey, I didn"t introduced that topic :) Ok, EOT for me.
[10:54] <dragonbyte> i'm just gunna drop it, I gotta get this nonsense working, dont wanna spend all day defeating myths :)
[10:55] <bahblahblahbah> How does linux access API?
[10:55] <erUSUL> zurn, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[10:55] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: the link in /lib/modules is there pointing to /usr/src like it should
[10:55] <nalioth> erUSUL: the wiki on ndiswrapper didnt help?
[10:55] <erUSUL> bahblahblahbah, ?? acces API??
[10:55] <zurn> erUSUL, been there, i'm trying what they are saying...
[10:55] <DsM> anyone know why browsing the web would seem slower than in windows
[10:55] <bahblahblahbah> like Windows Programs uses DLL to use API's
[10:56] <bahblahblahbah> use*
[10:56] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, you are missing some packages.
[10:56] <bahblahblahbah> so how does LInux use API's?
[10:56] <navarone> dsm> are you using firefox?
[10:56] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net, what packages?
[10:56] <Kzar[dot] net> bahblahblahbah, that's libraries.
[10:56] <DsM> navarone, yeah
[10:56] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, kernel souces !
[10:56] <erUSUL> zurn, why you need to compile it you run a custom kernel ?
[10:56] <Kzar[dot] net> zurn, no ?
[10:56] <bahblahblahbah> so how does Linux programs access library functions?
[10:56] <zurn> Kzar[dot] net,  I installed them!
[10:57] <ScreaminIke> mmmm
[10:57] <navarone> dsm> try this: in firefox addressbar type about:config    tehn go down to network section and find entry for ipv6...right click and toggle to false...may speed things up
[10:57] <erUSUL> bahblahblahbah, in linus shared libraries use .so (shared object) extension
[10:57] <ScreaminIke> external modem
[10:57] <Kzar[dot] net> bahblahblahbah, by using functions provided by thoses libraries
[10:57] <zurn> erUSUL, no! i'm just following the steps...i'm a complete newb here
[10:57] <PinTo> right could some1 be a big help. and point me in the direction where i can find out information on all the apps in ubuntu eg.fstab lilo
[10:57] <bahblahblahbah> how does it load shared libraries?
[10:57] <navarone> dsm> then restart firefox
[10:58] <cafuego> bahblahblahbah: via ldso, the shared library loader.
[10:58] <bahblahblahbah> thx
[10:58] <bahblahblahbah> :)
[10:58] <cafuego> bahblahblahbah: Though if coded in a modular fasion, an app can call the dlopen() function and load a library that way too.
[10:58] <Kzar[dot] net> bahblahblahbah, applications must have been compiled with the right libraries headers
[10:58] <CarstenP> I look for a tool for video converting? any ideas?
[10:58] <dooglus> can someone help me get my touchpad working please?
[10:58] <ScreaminIke> carstenp what do you mean converting?
[10:58] <bahblahblahbah> what's a modular fashion?
[10:58] <bahblahblahbah> :?
[10:58] <Kzar[dot] net> CarstenP, vlc
[10:58] <dooglus> it moves and clicks but doesn't do any of the advanced stuff it should.
[10:59] <erUSUL> zurn, if you install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` you gat ndiswraper for your kernel
[10:59] <cafuego> bahblahblahbah: I think you should go and ask on #c :-)
[10:59] <bahblahblahbah> thx
[10:59] <bahblahblahbah> :)
[10:59] <CarstenP> ScreaminIke: from avi for example to an DVD format?
[10:59] <cafuego> they're more technically oriente.
[10:59] <erUSUL> zurn, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:59] <CarstenP> Kzar[dot] net: vlc can convert?
[10:59] <Kzar[dot] net> CarstenP, of course it can.
[10:59] <ScreaminIke> carstenp, to rip a dvd, you may use thoggen...
[10:59] <qjimbo> I never knew VLC could convert :O
[10:59] <ScreaminIke> but as far as getting it bak to dvd... i don't know
[10:59] <Kzar[dot] net> vlc is powerfi
[10:59] <Kzar[dot] net> powerfull.
[10:59] <CarstenP> ScreaminIke: no i try to CREATE a DVD from some AVI files.
[11:00] <cafuego> 'powerful'
[11:00] <ScreaminIke> oh, no shit
[11:00] <DsM> navarone, ok i see a disable ipv6 and it is false... is that it
[11:00] <ScreaminIke> listen to these guys
[11:00] <bahblahblahbah> one more questions: in ASM calls are the same as Windows right? push arguments and return location then jump to the location in the shared library?
[11:00] <ScreaminIke> vlc
[11:00] <cafuego> DsM: Yep. Set it to 'true'.
[11:00] <zurn> erUSUL,  thx!
[11:00] <CarstenP> ScreaminIke , Kzar[dot] net : Thanks i will try VLC !
[11:00] <navarone> dsm> sorry...the disable should be toggled true...that's what mine is at now...sry
[11:00] <cafuego> bahblahblahbah: No idea, too low-level for me.
[11:00] <DsM> ok
[11:00] <erUSUL> bahblahblahbah, assembler for x86 is assembler x86 no matter the os
[11:00] <erUSUL> zurn, np
[11:00] <Kzar[dot] net> CarstenP, vlc may not be the right tool too.
[11:01] <cafuego> erUSUL: Yes, but Linux runs on a lot of non-x86 arches as well.
[11:02] <dragonbyte> I can compile the vmmon and vmnet modules, but when it trys to insert them it gets -1 Unresolved Symbols...How can I fix this?
[11:02] <qjimbo> cafuego: well he said the same as windows, not the same as any other architecture
[11:02] <qjimbo> though I see what you mean now
[11:02] <qjimbo> the last bit
[11:02] <qjimbo> *hides*
[11:03] <erUSUL> dragonbyte, it may be a bug of vmware go ask in #vmware
[11:03] <ubuntu> join #34
[11:03] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: its not a vmware bug, its a module insertion problem, I have had this working before
[11:04] <qjimbo> yeah I had problems installing VMware
[11:04] <dragonbyte> erUSUL: something is going wrong in the compile against linux-headers linux-image 2.6.12-10-k7
[11:04] <dragonbyte> qjimbo: did you get it working?
[11:04] <qjimbo> but I installed it, then uninstalled, then reinstalled and it sorted itself out
[11:04] <qjimbo> yeah
[11:04] <dragonbyte> qjimbo: uninstalled vmware?
[11:04] <qjimbo> but I don't know what went wrong in the first place
[11:04] <qjimbo> yeah
[11:04] <qjimbo> you run the installer
[11:04] <qjimbo> and it uninstalls
[11:04] <qjimbo> if it's installed
[11:04] <DsM> navarone, wow.. that works alot better.... do you think i should try KDE or is gnome good/better?
[11:05] <dspstv> how can i know how much ram a machine has?
[11:05] <ngoagr> erUSUL   i went to the site that u refert about the codecs (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats) but still having the same problem
[11:05] <dspstv> phisical
[11:05] <ngoagr> any help??
[11:05] <qjimbo> dspstv: go to a terminal and type "free" and press enter
[11:05] <dspstv> nice
[11:05] <dspstv> thanks
[11:06] <chris_> If I run something in the terminal window it locks up that terminal until the application is closed. Whats the command to run in "separate memory"?
[11:06] <qjimbo> no prob
[11:06] <varsendagger>  chris_ you can just put a & after it
[11:06] <varsendagger> startx &
[11:06] <erUSUL> chris_, run it with & after it
[11:06] <chris_> ah, I thought it was a #...thanks ;)
[11:07] <hedge> one more time, can anyone direct me to some instructions (possibly) on how to patch a vanilla kernel with ndiswrapper?
[11:07] <navarone> dsm> I stick with gnome...i find kde to cluttered and flashy for my taste
[11:07] <qjimbo> yeah I prefer Gnome
[11:07] <dragonbyte> what packages does cc1plus come in?
[11:08] <qjimbo> but people keep raving about the latest KDE so iunno which is best
[11:08] <hedge> navarone, don't forget buggy...:)
[11:08] <gimmulf> When i start gdm it seems like it aint using my new xorg.conf
[11:08] <navarone> hedge> I used kde in Mandrake 8.1-9.2 and always had probs with ppp daemon quitting on me...:/
[11:08] <gimmulf> i simply logout from fluxbox when i've edited xorg.conf but it doesnt use it
[11:08] <DsM> navarone, kewl i really like ubuntu thus far...
[11:08] <hedge> I run kde and find it ok but many bugs regarding the Admin mode
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> i LOVE ubuntu
[11:09] <dspstv> qjimbo i odnt see how to know how many ram chips a machine has with that free command. do you have an idea on how to know that?
[11:09] <erUSUL> gimmulf, Crtl + Alt + BackSpace
[11:09] <cafuego> qjimbo: Try both for a week (Gnome and KDE) then pick the one you like best.
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> i can't stay in windows for more than a coupla days anymore, or i get hives
[11:09] <gimmulf> oki erUSUL
[11:09] <myk3> hey
[11:09] <gimmulf> thanks
[11:09] <myk3> im trying to install gyach
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> know what made me decide on gnome?
[11:09] <TGM> What's the easiest way to update from Hoary to Breezy?
[11:10] <erUSUL> !breazy
[11:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, erUSUL
[11:10] <erUSUL> !breezy
[11:10] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:10] <navarone> lol
[11:10] <qjimbo> dspstv: hmm not sure about that one, I'm not sure if you can get that much detail
[11:10] <TGM> Awesome, thanks!
[11:10] <dspstv> k
[11:10] <ScreaminIke> the different desktops have different task-bars
[11:10] <ScreaminIke> so the two windows open in desktop 1 don't display in desktop 2
[11:10] <qjimbo> dspstv: on windows, there's a program called Cpuz, dunno if there's a linux equivalent
[11:10] <ScreaminIke> it's nice
[11:11] <dspstv> it tells me 155megas i wonder how that could be divided?
[11:11] <ScreaminIke> habla espaol?
[11:11] <navarone> Screamin> they do in kde?
[11:11] <cafuego> dspstv: 128 + 64 minus 32 used as video ram, probably.
[11:11] <ScreaminIke> yea they do
[11:11] <ScreaminIke> by default, they are minimized
[11:11] <ScreaminIke> but they are there
[11:11] <dspstv> cafuego, sounds like it..yea
[11:11] <ScreaminIke> cluttering the taskbar
[11:12] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: you wish a spanish speaking channel?
[11:12] <ScreaminIke> no
[11:12] <navarone> screamin> seem to defeat the purpose of seperate workplaces if everything is still shown in taskbar no matter what workplace you are on...
[11:12] <ScreaminIke> ubotu NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, erUSUL
[11:12] <ubotu> ScreaminIke: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:12] <qjimbo> dspstv: There's "cat /proc/meminfo"
[11:12] <DsM> ok i know this isnt the place for this.... but..... im not used to x-chat... how can i do the equivalent of a '/list <search string>' to find channels that have that string in it
[11:12] <qjimbo> still doesn't give the divisions though
[11:12] <dspstv> qjimbo, there you go..thats it
[11:12] <dspstv> )
[11:13] <dspstv> merci again
[11:13] <qjimbo> really? thats good ^^
[11:13] <navarone> dsm...go to windows cahnnel list and put in filter and enter
[11:13] <DESiBELi> hey how can i change linux login welcome message?
[11:13] <cafuego> DESiBELi: edit /etc/motd
[11:13] <cafuego> DESiBELi: Or /etc/issue
[11:14] <cafuego> issue is pre-login, motd is post-login
[11:14] <navarone> dsm> in windows/Channel List type <search term> in Regex field and enter or refresh list
[11:14] <gimmulf> gdm is still aint using my new xorg.conf, i have tried ctrl+alt+del at the gdm login screen :/
[11:14] <gimmulf> very wierd
[11:14] <plasticdoc> Hello, anyone here able to help with a Dapper Applications Menu problem?
[11:14] <cafuego> If ya can't fix problems, don't run dapper.
[11:15] <mrkoje> hello /all
[11:15] <SoulPropagation> http://ethan.homedns.org/ubuntu.svg what do y'all think of mah logo?
[11:15] <Azmodan> I have a friend who is trying to use the LiveCD but even if his BIOS is set up to boot on the CD, the screen just tells it tries to boot from CD, the drive revs but it still boots Windows from HD.  Can he create a boot floppy ?
[11:15] <tauno> Is there a good app for copying documents?  Like, scanning straight to the printer?
[11:15] <SoulPropagation> Azmodan: sounds like the CD isn't working
[11:15] <navarone> I'm betting next release will be termed "Philantrophic Pheasant:...any takers...<s>
[11:15] <plasticdoc> cafuego:  Well usually I can solve them, but this one is different...
[11:16] <gimmulf> Getting this in my Xorg.log  (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!  (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad)  (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available    :(
[11:16] <Azmodan> SoulPropagation, the CD works to read stuff from it in Windows.
[11:16] <gimmulf> any suggestions?
[11:16] <tauno> SoulPropagation, sounds like either the CD or drive is bad.
[11:16] <SoulPropagation> Azmodan: maybe the booty part is messed up.
[11:17] <Azmodan> SoulPropagation, that's why I'd like to try the boot floppy thing.
[11:17] <navarone> Azmodan> did your friend burn image to cd or doa data burn and put the iso on cd?
[11:17] <SoulPropagation> Azmodan: no, the actual plastic thing. try burning another
[11:17] <Azmodan> navarone, shipit
[11:17] <navarone> ahh
[11:18] <gimmulf> Anyone know howto see what config X uses when starting it?
[11:19] <navarone> cafuego> maybe you need #ubuntu-large print
[11:19] <krak`nix> Is there a media player similar to amaroK, but designed for Gnome?
[11:19] <varcoder> I'm not sure, I enjoy using MPlayer myself.
[11:19] <lillpelle> gimmulf: have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I have a line. (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:19] <SoulPropagation> krak`nix: gmplayer
[11:20] <varcoder> SoulPropagation, how is gmplayer? I've never heard much about it.
[11:20] <gimmulf> lillpelle:  it shows the correct one :/
[11:20] <gimmulf> lillpelle: it says: (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"   and thats my new config, but ive added dual screens stuff + xinerama things. Still get same configuration as before with same res on both screens (clone desktops)
[11:21] <SoulPropagation> varcoder: good, but i haven't played around with it much
[11:21] <krak`nix> hmm do you have a url?
[11:21] <krak`nix> or is it mplayer? i dont see a 'gmplayer' anywhere
[11:21] <varcoder> SoulPropagation, alright.
[11:21] <SoulPropagation> krak`nix: it's part of mplayer
[11:21] <_menza> Wow
[11:21] <krak`nix> oh :(
[11:21] <gimmulf> getting some errors in that log though lillpelle  (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed! (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available
[11:22] <navarone> cafuego> i have dl'ed a compiled xchat 2.6 because I could not get compile and make to work. Should I uninstall xchat first? Will I need to reinstall gnome-xchat afterwards and is it safe to install debs compiled by a stranger?
[11:22] <krak`nix> im looking more for a standalone music player
[11:22] <krak`nix> with nice playlist and collection features like amarok
[11:22] <qjimbo> xmms?
[11:22] <lillpelle> gimmulf: hmm, I don't know what can be wrong, never tried xinerama... :(
[11:22] <qjimbo> rhythmbox?
[11:22] <navarone> krak> have you tried xmss?
[11:22] <SoulPropagation> krak`nix: yeah, xmms is great for music
[11:22] <varcoder> xmms.
[11:22] <SoulPropagation> krak`nix: it's the winamp of linux
[11:22] <qjimbo> yeah bad thing about xmms is no media library
[11:23] <krak`nix> ya, i was just going to say
[11:23] <krak`nix> xmms is more like winamp
[11:23] <qjimbo> I love Winamp 5's media lib
[11:23] <SoulPropagation> i hate libraries
[11:23] <SoulPropagation> i just stick all my music in the same folder
[11:23] <qjimbo> really?
[11:23] <krak`nix> im looking for something with a library type thing :p
[11:23] <qjimbo> lol omg
[11:23] <krak`nix> amarok's is -very- nice
[11:23] <varcoder> SoulPropagation, that's very untidy.
[11:23] <varcoder> :p
[11:23] <qjimbo> I've never used it
[11:23] <cafuego> krak`nix: rhythmbox
[11:23] <qjimbo> and amarok is on linux?
[11:23] <SoulPropagation> varcoder: it's all in the same place
[11:23] <krak`nix> but sometimes i get weird errors because im not using kde i guess
[11:23] <krak`nix> ya amarok is a linux player
[11:24] <qjimbo> yeah
[11:24] <fissy> try muine :D
[11:24] <qjimbo> hmm
[11:24] <navarone> qjimbo> when I relax with music I am usually using file browser anyway to start songs...however it would be nice if xmss provided a right click menu to enqueue files to playlist
[11:24] <qjimbo> I mean I thought Gnome was supposed to let KDE stuff run now
[11:24] <krak`nix> i was using muine for awhiile and was really liking how simple it was
[11:24] <qjimbo> yeah
[11:24] <krak`nix> but it kept locking up when i would leave it play over night
[11:24] <fissy> that's unfortunate
[11:25] <myk3> can someone help me
[11:25] <myk3> ?
[11:25] <navarone> krak> i couldn't get amarok to play ball in gnome either...that's why i use xmss...suit my needs
[11:25] <fissy> we can try
[11:25] <myk3> im trying to install gyach
[11:25] <qjimbo> yeah I'm using XMMS right this second
[11:25] <qjimbo> listening to the spiderman 2 soundtrack, how cool am I
[11:25] <apokryphos> qjimbo: using xmms? Very uncool
[11:25] <varcoder> SoulPropagation, yeah, depending on the genres of music you enjoy listening to, I mean if its only rock then it's satisfactory.. but if its all mixed up its quite irksome..
[11:25] <navarone> qjimbo> I usually will place xmss and file browser in 2nd workplace and just go back and forth as I need
[11:26] <varcoder> For me however.
[11:26] <krak`nix> i wish amarok wasnt specific to kde, its such a nice program :(
[11:26] <qjimbo> oooh
[11:26] <qjimbo> I thought you were just mistyping xmms
[11:26] <qjimbo> XD
[11:26] <apokryphos> krak`nix: you can use it on gnome just fine
[11:26] <krak`nix> certain things dont work though
[11:26] <krak`nix> im using it right now ;9
[11:26] <SoulPropagation> krak`nix: same
[11:26] <apokryphos> like what?
[11:27] <krak`nix> mm when i try and browse folders
[11:27] <myk3> anyone
[11:27] <myk3> ?
[11:27] <krak`nix> says could not find program kfmclient
[11:27] <fissy> myk3, what's the problem you're having with gyach?
[11:28] <myk3> i am trying to install it and i get errors
[11:28] <qjimbo> what errors?
[11:28] <apokryphos> krak`nix: that's a bug; if you have time, try to report it.
[11:28] <myk3> where can i post them?
[11:28] <fissy> send me a private message
[11:28] <fissy> with the errors
[11:28] <myk3> k
[11:28] <SoulPropagation> http://ethan.homedns.org/ubuntu.svg what do y'all think of mah logo?
[11:28] <myk3> i think i deleted the damn pkg
[11:28] <myk3> hold on a sec
[11:28] <varcoder> krak`nix, yes, you should post the bug on bugzilla, get the right people to sort it out. :)
[11:28] <qjimbo> hmm haven't got an svg viewer on here SP
[11:29] <cyphase> can you mount a .img file in linux?
[11:29] <wastrel> hello
[11:29] <erUSUL> myk3, in pastebin
[11:29] <wastrel> i'm upgrading to breezy
[11:29] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[11:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:29] <myk3> im re-downloading it now
[11:29] <fissy> cyphase, normally img files are just renamed iso files
[11:29] <qjimbo> yeah cyphrase I think you can, not sure how offhand though
[11:29] <cyphase> k, thanx
[11:30] <krak`nix> well its because im using gnome i think
[11:30] <qjimbo> cyphase: http://steinsoft.net/index.php?site=Programming/Articles/linux-mountiso
[11:30] <krak`nix> the program is based on kde or something, same error when i try and launch links from it
[11:30] <korhalf> sup
[11:30] <myk3> fissy i sent it to you
[11:31] <eternalist> man im so bored with linux...
[11:31] <eternalist> i just set up samba with my other comps and xbox and im out of thigns to do
[11:31] <wastrel> i wish i were bored
[11:31] <_cw_> To install my videocard drivers I'm supposed to input this: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:31] <fissy> myk3, i haven't recieved it. right click on me and open dialog window, then paste it into there
[11:31] <erUSUL> cyphase, mount /tmp/*.img /mnt -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0
[11:31] <wastrel> there's always things that get screwed up
[11:31] <_cw_> what is my kernel varsion exactly?
[11:31] <eternalist> wastrel, well theres one thing i have that i need to get working..and thats my 3d acceleration with my ati chip.
[11:31] <Swedish_Chef> can i load additional drivers during normal ubuntu setup?
[11:31] <wastrel> forexample why can't i print?
[11:31] <_cw_> what do I type?
[11:31] <eternalist> _cw_, uname to check
[11:31] <Swedish_Chef> from a floppy, that is
[11:32] <jack-> uname -r
[11:32] <myk3> eternalist ur xbox moded?
[11:32] <wastrel> eternalist that's easy with ubuntu there's howtos
[11:32] <myk3> if so what dash u use
[11:32] <pepsi> should i use LVM or not?
[11:32] <_cw_> eternal: yea but what out of that string should I put in there
[11:32] <eternalist> _cw_, uname -r to be exact like jack stated
[11:32] <eternalist> myk3, yea i use xbox media center
[11:32] <myk3> fissy i sent it again
[11:32] <erUSUL> _cw_,  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:32] <myk3> yea me to
[11:32] <fissy> cw, you could do it in synaptic, if you've got the latest 686 kernel you'd want the latest 686 restricted module set
[11:32] <eternalist> wastrel, its not easy..i follow them, but i get a black screen and X hangs
[11:32] <_cw_> srUSIl ah...a variable....
[11:32] <myk3> eternalist: i use the new XBMC with the built in dvd player
[11:33] <eternalist> myk3, oh theres a new one?
[11:33] <eternalist> i gotta upgrade then eh
[11:33] <eternalist> from the usual places..
[11:33] <qjimbo> AHA I fixed my pixmap problem!
[11:33] <qjimbo> I didn't copy across the permissions
[11:33] <myk3> yea its good
[11:33] <jack-> xbmc still gets updated like every 2 weeks
[11:33] <myk3> umm yea
[11:33] <lightbright> qjimbo: Well DOne! :)
[11:33] <eternalist> myk3, unless you mind uploading it somewhere so i can grab it
[11:33] <myk3> lol
[11:33] <myk3> fissy
[11:33] <myk3> i guess u cant hear me
[11:33] <myk3> lol
[11:33] <myk3> umm
[11:33] <Tronex> Hi there
[11:33] <lightbright> jack-: you have a 360?
[11:33] <qjimbo> lol thanks lightbright ^^
[11:33] <lightbright> qjimbo: :)
[11:33] <jack-> nah
[11:33] <myk3> what distro u useing
[11:33] <myk3> ?
[11:34] <eternalist> jack-,  i understand, but there isnt GREAT leaps of improvement between the nightly releases and whatever else.
[11:34] <fissy> me? ubuntu
[11:34] <jack-> true that
[11:34] <myk3> u know the uk server
[11:34] <myk3> ?
[11:34] <Tronex> Does anyone know a good online rpg game for linux?
[11:34] <jack-> but sometimes there's decent new stuff
[11:34] <erUSUL> !enter
[11:34] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:34] <_cw_> erUSUL: I get this: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary -amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:34] <_cw_> sorry for flooding...
[11:34] <Tronex> my g/f plays project entropia on a windows ws, but i cannot get it to work with wine...
[11:34] <myk3> how do i register?
[11:34] <cyphase> is there a tool to format hard drive image file?
[11:35] <logical_mark> Hey guys what is a good linux alternitive for Partiotion Magic?
[11:35] <jack-> qtparted
[11:35] <logical_mark> thanks jack
[11:35] <jack-> np
[11:35] <Tronex> gparted
[11:35] <fissy> myk3,  probable /m nickserv register $password
[11:35] <fissy> but its years since i did it
[11:35] <erUSUL> _cw_, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:35] <jack-> gparted = gnome
[11:35] <jack-> qtparted = any desktop
[11:35] <_cw_> erUSUL: What does that do?
[11:35] <myk3> it says im registered
[11:36] <qjimbo> Tronix: You could try buying Cedega (commercial Wine designed for gaming), or you could do a search for rpg games on sourceforge.net, there's quite a few I think
[11:36] <fissy> then /m nickserv identify $password to be 'logged in'
[11:36] <lisette> why can't i choose terminus from the gnome font selector after i've installed the font?
[11:36] <Tronex> thought about buying cedega... tried the cvs version and didnt get it to work either unfortunately.
[11:36] <erUSUL> _cw_ upgrade your installed packages just to make sure you are up to date
[11:37] <wastrel> "hello"
[11:37] <tescoil> Is there something like a little "run program" dialog in ubuntu, or do you gotta launch all command lines from terminal?
[11:37] <_cw_> righto, thanks. You guys in here are so helpful. Never saw anything like it ;)
[11:37] <myk3> fissy: http://pastebin.com/439096
[11:37] <eternalist> jack-, qtparted uses the qt libs..or basically KDE type shit
[11:37] <Tronex> good question tescoil ;-)
[11:37] <eternalist> jack-, why use either anyway, just use cfdisk
[11:37] <qjimbo> yeah I was thinking of cfdisk
[11:37] <erUSUL> tescoil, you can add a comand promt to the panel
[11:38] <varcoder> I prefer fdisk, I don't understand why people have a hard time with it.
[11:38] <tescoil> hm, okay.
[11:38] <wastrel> there's a keyboard shortcut for popping up a run dialog
[11:38] <logical_mark> Hey how do I mount a SATA drive?
[11:38] <Tronex> erUSUL, thanks man... didnt come up with this myself ;-)
[11:38] <qjimbo> varcoder: it's the commandlinephobia people have
[11:38] <wastrel> i forget what it is tho, i always have a terminal running
[11:38] <varcoder> qjimbo, heh, okay.
[11:39] <myk3> fissy: did u get that
[11:39] <myk3> ?
[11:39] <HedgeMage> myk3: did you get my last before I disconnected?
[11:39] <wastrel> tescoil, alt-f2 opens a run dialog
[11:39] <fissy> myk3, yes, i'm just compiling it myself
[11:39] <myk3> ook
[11:39] <myk3> thnk
[11:40] <Knowerrors> what is the ubuntu auto udate manager called?  I want to install it to kubuntu to handle security updates
[11:40] <champa> !w32codecs
[11:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:40] <HedgeMage> myk3: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup  (if you haven't already seen it)
[11:40] <fissy> myk3, works fine for me
[11:40] <myk3> fissy: this is what i went to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82567&highlight=gyach
[11:40] <tescoil> wastrel, now that's what I'm talking about
[11:40] <ZeZu> is ubuntu installer on more than one disc ?
[11:40] <tescoil> thanks.
[11:40] <ZeZu> i want to reinstall it and i only see one cd
[11:40] <qjimbo> yeah there's only one
[11:41] <ZeZu> great ;)
[11:41] <ZeZu> ty
[11:41] <qjimbo> pretty good going really
[11:41] <_cw_> erUSUL, Now I get this error instead: chris@gamma:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-"uname -r" xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:41] <_cw_> _cw_ Reading package lists... Done
[11:41] <_cw_> _cw_ Building dependency tree... Done
[11:41] <_cw_> _cw_ E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-uname -r
[11:41] <qjimbo> considering my old copy of SuSE 6.4 had 6 disks @_@
[11:41] <fissy> myk3, to install i did this: downloaded latest file from the website, right clicked on the tar.gz and chose extract. then opened a terminal and cd to the newly extracted folder of stuff
[11:41] <logical_mark> Hey how do I mount a SATA drive?
[11:41] <wastrel> tescoil, view/modify keyboard shortcuts in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts   go crazy :] 
[11:41] <fissy> myk3, then you need to compile the software run ./configure --prefix=/usr
[11:41] <myk3> what pkg did u use
[11:41] <myk3> ?
[11:41] <erUSUL> _cw_, is tis caracter ` not this "
[11:41] <fissy> myk3, then: make
[11:41] <erUSUL> this*
[11:42] <lightbright> where do I extract an app and then how do I then add it to the Applications/Internet Menu?
[11:42] <fissy> myk3, then: make install
[11:42] <_cw_> erUSUL, tried that too
[11:42] <_cw_> erUSUL, same error
[11:42] <varsendagger> anyone know how to find urls for internet TV?
[11:42] <lightbright> is it in /bin ?
[11:42] <fissy> myk3, i didn't use a package as such, i used http://www4.infi.net/~cpinkham/gyach/code/gyach-0.9.4.tar.gz
[11:42] <myk3> thnx
[11:42] <myk3> ill try it
[11:43] <guydebord> HAve a question concerning laptop with panoramic screen.  Installed ubuntu with GNOME desktop on an ACER aspire 1410 with a 1280 x 800 screen.  THe screen is all streched out horizontally.
[11:43] <tescoil> that problem solved, anyone know of a drag-and-drop mp3 to wav converter?
[11:43] <erUSUL> _cw_,  is not the single quote either ' is this `
[11:43] <lightbright> where do I extract an app and then how do I then add it to the Applications/Internet Menu?
[11:43] <_cw_> erUSUL, oh... lemme try ;)
[11:43] <guydebord> Cant find the correct resolutions in settings in preferences either.
[11:43] <dooglus> tescoil: audacity?
[11:44] <_cw_> erUSUL, Yay! ;) Thanks
[11:44] <erUSUL> _cw_, '` can you see the difference? i use a spanish keyboard and i have it with ^ and [
[11:44] <besfred> where can i define the media player that is launched when pressing a multimedia key?
[11:44] <besfred> in gnome, that is
[11:44] <guydebord> I tried changing setting in the rebooting screen but froze the computer. Any ideas? I saw an ubuntu laptop channel too.
[11:45] <navarone> guy> thats a weird resolution...is it because it's a laptop?
[11:45] <tescoil> dooglus, not what I had in mind.  Something where you could drag say ten or twenty files, click, queue them through mpg321 -w
[11:45] <guydebord> yes.
[11:45] <tescoil> or something like that.
[11:45] <guydebord> it has a really wide screen
[11:45] <myk3> fissy what does this mean?    ./configure --prefix=/usr
[11:45] <myk3> where usr means my user name?
[11:45] <DsM> ok how can i make xp my default OS in grub? i cannot find grub.conf anywhere
[11:45] <fissy> it means run the program called configure in the present directory with the option prefix=/usr
[11:45] <tescoil> If I was handier with gui widgets I'd whip it up myself, but figure trivial enough someone else has done it already anyway.
[11:46] <dooglus> DsM: it's /boot/grub/menu.conf
[11:46] <logical_mark> Hey could anyone point me to how to mount a SATA Hard drive?
[11:46] <philliph> do you use an smp kernel for hyperthreading?
[11:46] <DsM> thanks dooglus
[11:46] <fissy> myk3, no, just copy and paste "./configure --prefix=/usr" without the quotes and press enter
[11:46] <myk3> o ok
[11:46] <myk3> k
[11:46] <myk3> when i do make i get a error
[11:46] <fissy> what's the error?
[11:46] <DsM> dooglus, no that does not exist
[11:46] <guydebord> THe exact specifications are 15.4" WXGA (1280 x 800)
[11:46] <erUSUL> myk3, no is the folder. (i prefer using /usr/local for compiled things though)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:47] <dooglus> DsM: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:47] <wastrel> eew gedit
[11:47] <DsM> thanks gnomefreak
[11:47] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:47] <tescoil> myk3. like that you don't have make on board?
[11:47] <myk3> why is that
[11:47] <myk3> no it is trying
[11:47] <wastrel> it's a sad state of affairs that everyone is using gedit anymore :[
[11:47] <gnomefreak> gedit=gnome edit :(
[11:48] <dooglus> wastrel: good idea.  let's start an editor war.
[11:48] <tescoil> BRING BACK TECO.
[11:48] <fissy> vi sucks
[11:48] <tescoil> We need an editor where every sequence of ASCII is a command.
[11:49] <dooglus> tescoil: that's the case in GNU Emacs
[11:49] <fissy> nooooo
[11:49] <fissy> every sequence of UTF-16
[11:49] <DsM> dooglus, how do i know which number to put for win XP (sorry im used to the graphical admin for grub)
[11:49] <myk3> i dont even think the  ./configure --prefix=/usr worked
[11:49] <dooglus> DsM: 3
[11:49] <DsM> dooglus, how do you know that?
[11:49] <ardchoille> Firefox won't connect to any sites. In Fedora I had to add "alias net-pf-10 off" to /etc/modprobe.conf to get FF to connect. What do I do in Ubuntu 5.10 to connect?
[11:49] <fissy> myk3, set up the nickname registration so you can copy and paste me the output a bit quicker
[11:50] <myk3> k
[11:50] <dooglus> DsM: 0 is ubutu; 1 is recovery mode; 2 is memtest; 3 is XP
[11:50] <myk3> i tried and it said my password was wrong
[11:50] <tescoil> TECO remains the best editor for coding UNICAL.
[11:50] <Tronex> Anyone know a great linux online game (client-based)?
[11:50] <dooglus> DsM: (usually)
[11:50] <fissy> unical sucks, use intercal ;-)
[11:50] <navarone> tronex> try scorched3d...
[11:51] <DsM> dooglus, it shows that i have 2 kernels listed
[11:51] <theconartist> Tronex, americas army, ut2k4
[11:51] <navarone> tronex>or bztank...or is it bzflag...? not sure
[11:51] <tescoil> excuse me, i meant intercal.
[11:51] <Tronex> Hehe... already tried. Great graphics, smooth gameplay and advanced 3D... just unfortunately not my type of game. ;-)
[11:51] <dooglus> DsM: ok, maybe 5 then?
[11:51] <SoulPropagation> ut2k4 is for linux? o-o woooooo
[11:51] <dooglus> DsM: you get a regular and a recovery mode for each kernel, plus memtest.
[11:51] <theconartist> SoulPropagation, yes
[11:51] <Tronex> bzflag it is. Its similar to scorched3d
[11:51] <dooglus> DsM: basically, counting starts from 0
[11:51] <SoulPropagation> theconartist: like i said, woooooo
[11:51] <DsM> can i delete the older kernels in the list?
[11:52] <theconartist> i still think americas army is better
[11:52] <dooglus> DsM: better to uninstall them, or they'll keep coming back
[11:52] <ardchoille> What do I need to do to get Firefox to connect to a site? It times out on all sites.
[11:52] <navarone> dsm...you can use synaptic to delte old kernels once you see that they are stable
[11:52] <richard> 101352
[11:52] <theconartist> my favorite game so far
[11:52] <besfred> where in ubuntus gnome can i define the media player that is launched when pressing a multimedia key?
[11:52] <myk3> fissy it keeps telling me that my nick is allready registerd
[11:52] <dooglus> DsM: whenever a kernel gets updated the boot.lst gets re-written
[11:52] <lisette> where can i find the msttcorefonts package?
[11:52] <DsM> do i have to do anything after i finish editing this file besides reboot to see if it worked?
[11:52] <dooglus> !msftcorefonts
[11:52] <ubotu> dooglus: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[11:53] <myk3> fissy im gonna change my nick
[11:53] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:53] <fissy> maybe your nick is already registered ;-) paste the output of ./configure --prefix=/usr on pastebin then
[11:53] <DsM> navarone, how do i use synaptic?
[11:53] <navarone> dsm> synaptic is where you install the programs
[11:53] <mwe> hmm
[11:53] <pepsi> should i use LVM?
[11:53] <lightbright> where are the Icons stored?
[11:53] <navarone> dsm>system/admin/synaptic
[11:53] <DsM> navarone, under add applications?
[11:54] <guydebord> HAve a question concerning laptop with panoramic screen.  Installed ubuntu with GNOME desktop on an ACER aspire 1410 with a 1280 x 800 screen.  THe screen is all streched out horizontally.
[11:54] <DsM> ahhhh
[11:54] <DsM> ok
[11:54] <fissy> wb Mchipser
[11:54] <DsM> navarone, after i edit the menu.lst do i have to do anything else?
[11:54] <Knowerrors> Anyone here try or heard of SimpleKDE (www.simplekde.org) , Im about to compile and install it
[11:54] <fissy> guydebord, what resolution does the gnome preferences think you're using?
[11:54] <navarone> dsm> you can uninstall thru synaptic and all the editing is done for you
[11:55] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-about-logo.png
[11:55] <julesv> julesv pops a couple of chillers and has a draw and he's listenin to beethovens 9th sym
[11:55] <lightbright> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:55] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:55] <DsM> navarone, i mean when im done selecting the defualt
[11:55] <Mchipser> fissy
[11:55] <Mchipser> u there
[11:55] <Mchipser> it is Myk3
[11:55] <fissy> hi
[11:56] <navarone> dsm> I have upgraded from i383 to i686 and then to k7 for my amd processor...and no probs...grub is editted automatically
[11:56] <julesv> he's feelin like he's chillin on the nautilus, with captain nemo
[11:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont have a folder  usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-about-logo.png
[11:56] <guydebord> good question.  Know the command+
[11:56] <Euse> anyone know , how can i play counter strike in linux?:(:(: please i wanna kill a terrorist!!
[11:56] <navarone> dsm? sry...didn't realize you meant that...my bad
[11:56] <Tronex> isnt there any nice online rpg for linux available? like anarchy online or project entropia?
[11:56] <philliph> SHould i be using an smp kernel for hyper threading
[11:56] <BlueNinja> I'm having an installation problem...
[11:57] <fissy> guydebord, if you go on System> Preferences> Screen resolution, it should tell you
[11:57] <darren> Can anybody tell me how I can install and run a .run file?
[11:57] <julesv> no talkin, just rockin slow n snoozin low, sleepin sound on a submarine
[11:57] <DsM> navarone, ok where under synaptic is hte old kernel?
[11:57] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I created a link to limewire in menu and want to add an icon to it!  How do I do this?
[11:57] <guydebord> 1024 x 768
[11:57] <piksi> hi, anyone here with some knowledge on kernel compiling? i'm compiling the newest vanilla stable kernel and getting this error http://pi-xi.net/kernelpanic.jpeg... i haven't compiled it with initrd
[11:57] <DsM> navarone, sorry im slow at this
[11:57] <guydebord> ANd the settings I want arent there
[11:57] <ardchoille> Anyone in this channel have any experience in Linux?
[11:57] <lightbright> ardchoille: we are all beginners
[11:57] <guydebord> I tried changing setting in the rebooting screen but froze the computer. Any ideas? I saw an ubuntu laptop channel too.
[11:58] <julesv> dreamin about whales n penguins in the long boat
[11:58] <ardchoille> lightbright, well, I guess I am in the wrong channel then
[11:58] <Euse> anyone know , how can i play counter strike in linux?:(:(: please i wanna kill a terrorist!!
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lightbright, right click it in menu and add to launcher once there if you right click it and go to properties than click the icon it will give you choices
[11:58] <Knowerrors> What is the Ubuntu Update program called, the one that behaves similar to Windows Update, has a little icon that comes up in the corner for auto security updates?
[11:58] <piksi> Euse: go to #cedega
[11:58] <zapada2> what kernel version does Ubuntu 5.10 have?
[11:58] <piksi> Knowerrors: it's a gnome program
[11:58] <fissy> guydebord, in the rebooting screen? also, please mention my name in messages so i can see you
[11:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it opens to pixmaps folder
[11:58] <darren> Can anybody tell me how I can install and run a .run file?
[11:58] <piksi> zapada2: afaik 2.6.12-10
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  those are the icons
[11:58] <ardchoille> if I can't connect to any websites, then I can't learn anything about Ubuntu
[11:58] <topyli> Knowerrors: update-notifier IIRC
[11:58] <zapada2> piksi, by default?
[11:59] <piksi> zapada2: well i had -9 but it updated to -10 with apt-get
[11:59] <BlueNinja> I can't get my computer to recognize the ubuntu cd. What's wrong?
[11:59] <julesv> strummin again on his tortoise mandolin, sippin sweet grog
[11:59] <DsM> navarone, i dont see how i can tell where my old one is
[11:59] <zapada2> ty
[11:59] <piksi> anyone else here compiling their own kernel?
[11:59] <navarone> dsm> when you fire up synaptic chose "status" at bottom left and then click installed tos ee all installed packages...scroll down to where "linux" entries begin and find kernel you want to uninstall. I find selecting the approp image file will then select all relevant files as well
[11:59] <darren> gnomefreak, do you have any knowledge of .run files?