=== WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-220-47.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === mazg [n=mani@dsl-204-76.hive.is] has joined #launchpad === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@84.32.140.183] has joined #launchpad === radix [n=radix@c-67-186-54-77.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === radix [n=radix@c-67-186-54-77.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad [04:31] does SteveA generally disappear for the weekends? [04:32] radix: I haven't really paid attention to that [04:32] radix, likely, as he is paid to work on lp [04:34] right :) === BjornT_ [n=bjorn@84.32.140.183] has joined #launchpad === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@d81-211-236-82.cust.tele2.it] has joined #launchpad === stub [i=stub@sweep.bur.st] has joined #launchpad === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@d81-211-236-82.cust.tele2.it] has joined #launchpad === ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #launchpad === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083F16B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #launchpad === SteveA [n=steve@195.182.78.95] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === Mystilleef [i=tor@tor/session/x-63c4a3548e7a4452] has joined #launchpad === goebelmeier [i=osorkon@tserv05.mops.net] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@81-6-229-211.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === LarstiQ [n=larstiq@cust.7.157.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #launchpad === spiv [n=andrew@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #launchpad === uriel [n=binarydr@green.eye.binarydream.org] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === jblack [i=jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #launchpad === auth00 [i=auth@fiji.grd.sgsnet.se] has joined #launchpad === jordi [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo_away [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === bob2 [i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@203-59-207-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #launchpad === uws [n=mathilda@scrat.hensema.net] has joined #launchpad === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #launchpad === uriel [n=binarydr@green.eye.binarydream.org] has joined #launchpad === auth00 [i=auth@fiji.grd.sgsnet.se] has joined #launchpad === ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@81-6-229-211.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Mystilleef [n=goldenmy@mail.armsteadent.com] has joined #launchpad === stub [i=stub@sweep.bur.st] has joined #launchpad [08:20] oeh! [08:20] someone implemented subscribed bugs in the web interface! === LarstiQ hugs said person, whomever it may be === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #launchpad === dewd_ [n=dewd@201.29.130.84] has joined #launchpad === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-107.131.240.220.lns02-wick-bne.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #launchpad [09:05] stub: ping [09:05] lifeless: pong [09:05] i just nuked 3 corrupt jobs [09:06] you have sftp://chinstraphome/warthogs [09:06] and variations thereupon [09:06] 2 corrupt jobs, and I just fixed bzr-submit-merge on the wiki so others don't have the same problem [09:06] thanks [09:06] whats your x-push-data file contents ? [09:07] chinstrap:/home/warthogs/archives/stub/dists/devel/ [09:07] There seemed to be a missing '/' in bzr-submit-merge. [09:07] hmm [09:07] copied and pasted from my working one [09:07] ah-oops === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #launchpad [09:41] moins all === LarstiQ [n=larstiq@cust.7.157.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@ordo.xlii.org] has joined #launchpad === gml_ [i=gml@dyn-83-156-13-51.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #launchpad === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad [01:14] Hi! Is there any way to view the complete list of specifications? === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #launchpad [01:39] hello [01:40] How come the French translation page in Rosetta lists more packages than the Dutch one? [01:40] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/fr and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/nl === auth00 [i=auth@fiji.grd.sgsnet.se] has joined #launchpad === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #launchpad === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #launchpad === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #launchpad === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable058.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #launchpad === dewd [n=dewd@201.29.130.84] has joined #launchpad === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083D12E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [06:21] hmm, I don't see a distinction between Serbian in Cyrillic and Latin anywhere === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-82-136.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [07:50] <\sh> guys, is it possible to have the support tracker tool on launchpad to work as well for teams, like an "RFP" tracker for MOTU? [07:51] <\sh> let's say, I select the "MOTU" team, and file a support ticket for having "shiny-software-5.0" packaged for universe? [07:51] \sh: does the moto have something like that currently? [07:51] <\sh> sivang: well...a wiki page [07:52] <\sh> UniverseCandidates..which is for this purpose a but degenerated...we thought about using RT but if there is something like a support tracker in LP...why not using this [07:52] <\sh> s/but/bit/ [07:52] \sh: if it supports the notion of group assignments of requests and has sufficient enough emailing interface , ofcourse [07:53] <\sh> sivang: yes..but https://launchpad.net/people/motu/+tickets doesn't show up anything to create a ticket :) [07:54] Hi! Is there any way to view the complete list of specifications? [07:55] \sh: hmm, maybe we need it to be a "motu" product? :) [07:55] <\sh> shawarma: all approved, or actually all? [07:55] \sh: either. [07:55] \sh: seems issues are only registered against a product, not a team [07:55] <\sh> shawarma: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs [07:55] \sh: I'd really like to take a look at all the Ubuntu Server specs to see if there's anything I can work on, but I can only view the 10 newest. [07:55] <\sh> sivang: jepp...product or distro [07:56] <\sh> shawarma: see the url [07:56] \sh: We need to ask Bjorn about that then [07:56] \sh: How on earth did you find that? [07:56] <\sh> shawarma: well..I used it when I was in the reviewing team during UBZ :) [07:56] \sh:I've been clicking everywhere, but never been able to find anything but the 10 most recently added. [07:57] \sh: Well, thank you! [07:57] <\sh> shawarma: to see even the assignees https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specstable [07:58] <\sh> shawarma: you're welcome..even when i'm totally clueless...as I had to read a couple of minutes ago ;) === radix [n=radix@c-67-186-54-77.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === bercik [n=Obywatel@eaw192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #launchpad [08:01] hey [08:01] when I get e-mail with activation?:p [08:01] \sh: so, basically you'd want it to be possible to open a ticket on a team, that's not necessarily associated with a product or distribution? [08:02] BjornT_: you're here? :-) [08:02] <\sh> BjornT_: that's what I thought about...well..thinking of MOTU it belongs to distro ubuntu ... but is in need of this feature :) [08:02] when I get e-mail with activation?:p sorry for my englisch ;p [08:02] sivang: of course :) [08:02] english ;p [08:05] \sh: yeah, although i would guess that if someone request support to MOTU, it's always about ubuntu. the same is probably true for most teams. [08:06] <\sh> BjornT_: yes, right, but this is special..it's a type of debians "RFP" or "ITP" [08:06] <\sh> process [08:06] BjornT_: why does it make a difference? I would think that being able to open a ticket against a team would be possible without having to associate it with a distro product [08:06] <\sh> so to have a package to hit ubuntu, it needs to go to universe first... [08:09] bercik: it was immediate for me [08:11] \sh: i'll have to think about it will fit into the changes to the support tracker that will happen. could you file a bug about it (or better, create a spec ;), so i won't forget it? [08:12] <\sh> BjornT_: sure...but not today..let me do it tomorrow :) [08:12] \sh: sure, thanks :) [08:12] <\sh> BjornT_: spec to launchpad product? or ubuntu? [08:12] \sh: launchpad [08:13] <\sh> BjornT_: k...you'll get your spec :) [08:18] BjornT_: are you also working on the spe tracker? [08:18] sivang: well, it does make a difference some difference, as how to implement it. my point was that you probably don't need to have the possibility to associate with both a product/distribution and a team, which makes it somewhat easier. [08:19] BjornT_: I had the same though :) we could be following ticket against ---->team---[assoc. with $DISTRO] . [08:19] sivang: i hope not :) actually, i'm probably going to be the one implementing email notifications for it. [08:20] BjornT_: email interface for the spec tracker you mean? [08:20] yeah [08:21] https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/SpecTrackerEmailInterface [08:21] (it's only a rough braindump so far, though) [08:22] anyway, re: tickets against team, those tickets could be indirectly assoc. with a distro through the team assoc itself. Does that sound sane? [08:24] BjornT_: hmm, I need to make some time and help you out with that rough braindump. maybe add some ideas etc.. [08:24] sivang: yeah, that sounds sane. [08:24] sivang: that would be really great [08:28] BjornT_: I had some ideas back then, maybe I can refine and use my spare moments tomorrow at work to add them. Also, do you know if you could inherit email interface of support/malone trackers and just change syntax and semantics? [08:29] <\sh> sivang: why? [08:29] \sh: what why? :) [08:29] <\sh> Also, do you know if you could inherit email interface of support/malone trackers and just change syntax and semantics? [08:30] <\sh> the syntax can stay like it is...the status fields has to be changed :) [08:31] \sh: ah, that's actually waht I meant. but to allow greater flexiabilty (ouch, here is that word again) you might want to have better extended semantics for support tickets that a bug tracker might not support or expose [08:32] not support/expose by design, that is [08:32] <\sh> sivang: well...actually a support ticket is a subview of a bug ticket..everything what a support ticket can have, could be filed even in a bug ticket... [08:33] <\sh> sivang: IMHO !! :) [08:34] :-) [08:34] <\sh> .oO(I have no clue!) [08:34] <\sh> I should trademark this statement [08:34] sivang: yeah, the support email interface will probably be similar to malone's. [08:34] \sh: LOLO [08:35] <\sh> BjornT_: but get rid of the gpg signed email for filing bugs/support tickets... [08:35] \sh: you sound like bddebian [08:36] but, thinking in general terms, what about things like price quotes per ticket, departments invovled, status (which is basically different from a bug status) etc.. [08:36] ajmitch: what, about trademarking? :) [08:36] as I see it, a support ticket might sometime have more data over a bug - [08:36] LarstiQ: no, the 'I have no clue' thing [08:36] <\sh> BjornT_: or think a bit more complicated: if it's a gpg signed mail, which identifies user X which is in team A and is able to change the status and some other stuff for the bug/support ticket, then allow him to do it...if there is no gpg signed mail, drop all action keywords [08:36] ajmitch: yeah, that is what I mean [08:37] \sh: i'll see what i can do. it requires some discussion, but i think it should be possible to file a bug without having a gpg key. [08:38] <\sh> BjornT_: well..the possibilty must be given, to send always a gpg signed mail to create a special report with action keywords in it, to file it directly to a special assignee or set a status != new [08:38] <\sh> anyways back to my merges :) [08:38] <\sh> which i'm doing without a clue ,) [08:40] a bug should ideally be a technical description of a technical system specific problem. While a support ticket need not always result in a bug. [08:41] \sh: why do you keep saying you have no clue? you seem to have more clue then everybody else. The fact I don't say I have no clue doesn't make me less clueless [08:41] \sh: yeah, something like that. when i have time i will bring it up with the others for discussion. === sivang .oO(Thinks about what he just said....) [08:41] <\sh> sivang: read ubuntu-devel ml...then u know why :) [08:42] \sh: I wish I could :-( pitti's server has been hacked and we need to wait for monday so the server farm compnay will restore a backup :...-( [08:43] <\sh> sivang: say this again? hacked? pittis server? [08:43] err ops /me runs [08:43] actually that was a lie [08:43] <\sh> didn't he install the latest security patches? [08:43] :) [08:43] <\sh> hehe...I'll tease him with this :) [08:43] well, it was mostly a DoS [08:43] \sh: please don't, I don';t know if I was supposed to tell about it :) [08:43] <\sh> sivang: I know how it feels to be hacked [08:43] <\sh> sivang: well..it's logged now :) [08:44] <\sh> but do not worry [08:44] \sh: I really don't understand what people have to be hacking with piware.de, such a wonderful server with a wonderful name [08:44] <\sh> sivang: hackers don't do this..these are scriptkiddies === sivang really hates those crackers / chaous havoking people [08:44] yes [08:44] that is why I said crackers :-) [08:44] sivang: you just announced it on a publically logged channel :P [08:45] erm [08:45] <\sh> not even crackers...crackers are cracking copy protection [08:45] <\sh> or phreaking.. === sivang erases eveybody's memory in this channel [08:47] (and logs) === radix [n=radix@c-67-186-54-77.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #launchpad === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable058.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-55-1.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #launchpad === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-55-1.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #launchpad