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| \sh | elmo: please sync debtags-edit from unstable, dropping ubuntu-changes ok, thx | 12:15 |
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| lamont-away | openjade:/home/lamont/dapper/libgtk-java-2.6.2/doc/FAQ.sgml:1:57:W: cannot generate system identifier for public text "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN" | 01:36 |
| lamont-away | openjade:/home/lamont/dapper/libgtk-java-2.6.2/doc/FAQ.sgml:1:57:E: reference to entity "ARTICLE" for which no system identifier could be generated | 01:36 |
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| StevenK | daniels: ping | 02:01 |
| lamont-away | daniels: xserver-xorg-driver-sis needs -ffunction-section love too... where do you want diffs sent when I fix them? | 02:12 |
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| jdub | are there testing versions of l-r-m for new X and/or 2.6.15? | 02:48 |
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| crimsun | elmo: please sync grace and libmath++ from Sid (ok to override Ubuntu changes), thanks | 03:31 |
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| floam | daniels: any headway on #20052 | 04:15 |
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| pepsi | well hi there | 04:31 |
| === pepsi visits the HelpingWithBugs wiki page to figure out how to get gnome-app-install to not segfault | ||
| pepsi | really i just want some source so i can compile it | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | pepsi, g-a-i is written in python | 04:34 |
| pepsi | well ill be | 04:34 |
| pepsi | ok | 04:34 |
| pepsi | hmf.. was hoping for some C :( | 04:35 |
| Burgundavia | we are a little python mad around here | 04:35 |
| Burgundavia | why would you want C over Python? | 04:36 |
| pepsi | cause i dont know python :) | 04:36 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 04:36 |
| Burgundavia | good time to learn | 04:36 |
| pepsi | interesting that its a gui app | 04:36 |
| pepsi | i wasnt aware that you could do that | 04:36 |
| crimsun | there are python bindings for virtually everything | 04:36 |
| pepsi | hrm | 04:45 |
| pepsi | im sure there are more files for development than just what gets distributed though | 04:45 |
| pepsi | how can i find that? :) | 04:45 |
| Burgundavia | pepsi, you can find the deb source, but with python you already have everything | 04:46 |
| pepsi | hrm | 04:47 |
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| pepsi | alrighty.. if everything i need is in this here .py file, i guess its on to learning python for me :) | 04:49 |
| Burgundavia | pepsi, I haven't looked at g-a-i but that should be most of what you need | 04:50 |
| pepsi | oh theres some fun stuff like a .glade file in the source package | 04:57 |
| Burgundavia | that defines the interface | 04:57 |
| pepsi | right | 04:57 |
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| psusi | bootchart shows how much processing and IO is going on during boot... is there a way to find out exactly which files are being accessed? | 05:11 |
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| yi | daniels: any progress on the evdev issue? | 05:39 |
| Burgundavia | poor daniels, getting pinged by some many people | 05:40 |
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| pepsi | ok this python thing calls some C bindings | 05:47 |
| pepsi | can i print | 05:47 |
| pepsi | er can i print to stderror from those bindings? | 05:47 |
| pepsi | then i get back to C, you see :) | 05:48 |
| ispiked | dmwaters should tell us what servers are going to stay up. | 05:52 |
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| sivang | Morning sundayers | 09:40 |
| crimsun | 'morning, sivang | 09:41 |
| === fabbione yawns | ||
| sivang | morning fabbione | 09:41 |
| sivang | hmm, just upgraded again - got "no sockets available" error for cardmgr, known? | 09:42 |
| fabbione | sivang: yes | 09:43 |
| sivang | fabbione: k, cool | 09:43 |
| fabbione | there is a pcmcia* transition going on afaik | 09:43 |
| sivang | fabbione: ah I see, also loads of packages synaptic can't upgrade, I wonder if a dist-upgrade would do that | 09:43 |
| fabbione | dunno | 09:44 |
| fabbione | didn't upgrade yet | 09:44 |
| sivang | oh! I just recalled someone said something about Kamion replacing cardmgr or so | 09:44 |
| fabbione | exactly | 09:45 |
| StevenK | fabbione: Do you recall why GLw support was killed out of mesa? | 09:46 |
| StevenK | cardmgr being replaced with what? udev? | 09:47 |
| Mithrandir | pccardmgr, iirc | 09:48 |
| fabbione | StevenK: no sorry.. that's a daniels question. I *think* it was to remove duplication since the code was getting more and more the same | 09:49 |
| StevenK | fabbione: I've pinged daniels, but you were talking so I thought I'd ask you anyway. | 09:49 |
| fabbione | StevenK: daniels is VAC for a week or so | 09:50 |
| fabbione | StevenK: no problem.. i just don't know the answer :) | 09:50 |
| StevenK | Blah. | 09:50 |
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| fabbione | StevenK: just call -$(MAKE) clean | 09:51 |
| fabbione | it will fail gracefully if Makefile is not there | 09:51 |
| StevenK | But if the Makefile doesn't exist, this package calls ./configure | 09:51 |
| StevenK | So it runs ./configure for clean and then again for building. | 09:51 |
| fabbione | crap | 09:51 |
| StevenK | Exactly what I thought. | 09:52 |
| fabbione | that's similar to what i have to do with redhat-cluster-suite | 09:52 |
| fabbione | but the configure is neither sane or evil | 09:52 |
| StevenK | It runs -$(MAKE) distclean | 09:52 |
| fabbione | it's some hacked up shell script... | 09:52 |
| === StevenK ponders adding test -f Makefile && to the front. | ||
| === StevenK goes to think about it while he gets called away. | ||
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| pitti | Hi | 10:34 |
| siretart | hey Martin! | 10:36 |
| pitti | Riddell: ping | 10:36 |
| fabbione | hi pitti | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | hi | 10:36 |
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| pitti | Hi siretart, fabbione, ajmitch | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | so, are we getting rid of python 2.3 dependencies & packages now? :) | 10:38 |
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| ajmitch | doko_: I've got a list of zope packages to merge, holding off until I know what the 2.3 vs 2.4 situation is | 10:39 |
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| siretart | elmo: please sync gnomemm from unstable, overriding ubunut changes. thnx | 10:54 |
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| Riddell | pitti: hi | 11:03 |
| siretart | elmo: please sync gxmms from unstable, overriding ubuntu changes | 11:05 |
| Mithrandir | uhm, did we rename ff to deer park? | 11:08 |
| sivang | Mithrandir: just like debian did, AFAICT | 11:10 |
| Mithrandir | heh, 'k | 11:11 |
| siretart | elmo: please sync hamlib from unstable, overriding ubuntu changes | 11:11 |
| sivang | Mithrandir: it was VERY weird to me as well :) | 11:11 |
| \sh | moins | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | hi \sh | 11:11 |
| sivang | moins \sh, ajmitch , Mithrandir | 11:11 |
| \sh | well..it's raining, it's colde...and I have a very nice headache...good morning world | 11:12 |
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| \sh | s/colde/cold/ | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | elmo: please sync rdiff-backup from sid, dropping ubuntu changes thanks | 11:12 |
| sivang | \sh: but it's sunday :) Imagine yourself you would have had to be at work now, as I am now | 11:12 |
| Burgundavia | sivang, you mean they renamed the source package to deerpark? | 11:13 |
| \sh | sivang: well, it's less then 4 weeks to x-mas | 11:13 |
| infinity | ajmitch : Yes, we're trying to get rid of python2.3 in mina. | 11:13 |
| infinity | ajmitch : main, too. | 11:13 |
| ajmitch | infinity: right, I think zope 2.x was being dropped back to universe, so those packages could be untouched if we wanted | 11:14 |
| infinity | ajmitch : zope2.x has already been punted to universe. We did it at UBZ. | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | I'll wait for doko's info on it | 11:14 |
| sivang | Burgundavia: not yet, but s/firefox/deer park/ branding all over the prog | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | wonderful | 11:15 |
| Burgundavia | sivang, ah | 11:15 |
| Burgundavia | sivang, Mozilla's trademark chickens are coming home.... | 11:15 |
| sivang | Burgundavia: something related to moz's licnese , or TM rules don't really recall | 11:15 |
| sivang | ;) | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | sivang: and it shows up in epiphany too | 11:16 |
| === sivang fires epiphany | ||
| ajmitch | like when it asks to save passwords | 11:16 |
| Burgundavia | we had better publicize that well so that people don't wonder where FF went | 11:16 |
| infinity | Are you sure it's not just named Deer Park during the beta period? | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | I assumed it was | 11:17 |
| infinity | That was my assumption. | 11:17 |
| Lathiat | as did i | 11:17 |
| sivang | infinity: worth a check | 11:17 |
| infinity | I'm pretty sure that's the case. | 11:17 |
| sivang | infinity: seems you are right. damn rumors spreader :) | 11:18 |
| \sh | let's spread rumours without any checks...and on the 1st if April...we will call all people who believed in those rumours "fools" ;) | 11:18 |
| Burgundavia | infinity, but 1.5 is about to become stable | 11:18 |
| \sh | s/if/of/ | 11:18 |
| infinity | Burgundavia : About to. It isn't currently. | 11:18 |
| infinity | Burgundavia : Rebranding the Mozilla source is VERY easy. I assume upstream will rebrad last thing before release. | 11:18 |
| === sivang thanks infinity for preventing him from being 1's april fool. | ||
| siretart | elmo: please sync imms from unstable, overriding ubuntu changes | 11:19 |
| pitti | Riddell: could you teach libakode-dev to not use jack? | 11:19 |
| sivang | infinity: how come it's easy? I've heared everything else is not...;-) | 11:19 |
| pitti | Riddell: or is that explicitly wanted? | 11:19 |
| infinity | siretart : Oh, dude. Was it you that requested a sync of a library that has a different name in Ubuntu and Debian? | 11:19 |
| siretart | infinity: if you are talking about avifile, yes | 11:20 |
| infinity | siretart : You need to hand-merge that, not sync it, otherwise you'll be missing the "replaces: libfooc2" to make it overwrite the Ubuntu lib. | 11:20 |
| infinity | siretart : Unless the Debian maintainer has put that Replaces in there for you. | 11:20 |
| siretart | *selfslap* | 11:20 |
| siretart | infinity: you are right, I knew why I was asking ubuntu-devel first.. | 11:21 |
| siretart | I'm on it | 11:21 |
| infinity | siretart : Probably best to get a Conflicts/Replaces in the Debian package anyway, but for now, you can't use a package without it. | 11:21 |
| \sh | elmo: don't listen to siretart avifile sync, thx | 11:21 |
| siretart | elmo: \sh is right, I was wrong about that avifile sync | 11:22 |
| Mithrandir | siretart: in which case, you can now hand-merge it and upload, since the sync will then fail (if elmo is reading it consecutively rather than reading through and removing it) | 11:22 |
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| siretart | Mithrandir: thats what I mean with 'I'm on it'.. yes | 11:23 |
| infinity | siretart : And by "hand merge", I mean "take the Debian source, and add the conflict/replace"... No need to do any other "merging". | 11:23 |
| Mithrandir | siretart: go faster! ;-P | 11:23 |
| siretart | infinity: yes. I doing it right now | 11:23 |
| infinity | siretart : Especially if you file a wishlist bug in Debian asking for them to add the conflict/replace there as well, so you can sync it later. | 11:23 |
| === siretart runs | ||
| \sh | Mithrandir: got my whishlist request for ravel? :) | 11:24 |
| siretart | err, stop | 11:24 |
| Mithrandir | \sh: yes, but I'm on my way out now, so I won't do it for another few hours. | 11:24 |
| siretart | Replaces: libavifile0.7, libavifile0.7c102, libavifile-0.7c102 | 11:24 |
| siretart | Conflicts: libavifile0.7, libavifile0.7c102, libavifile-0.7c102 | 11:24 |
| siretart | this is in the debian package I requested the sync from | 11:24 |
| siretart | new binary package name is libavifile-0.7c2 | 11:25 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: no...don't do it now...I just realised, there wasn't any yesterday...so play in the snow on the 1st advent | 11:25 |
| siretart | infinity: this should be fine, shouldn't it? | 11:25 |
| infinity | siretart : What was the old libname in Ubuntu? | 11:25 |
| \sh | without the c2 when it was before c102 | 11:25 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: any chance you could take a look at my sane-backends merge tomorrow? I think it's sane, but you've looked at it before, and I'm not sure I do all the right things at the right places. | 11:26 |
| infinity | siretart : You need to Conflict/Replace libavifile-0.7 as well. | 11:26 |
| siretart | infinity: it is currently libavifile-0.7 | 11:26 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: sure, no problem; I don't have a scanner, though, but I should still know the mods I made | 11:26 |
| siretart | ah, the '-' matters. okay.. | 11:26 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: thanks, great. I'll just ping you when I'm at work tomorrow, since I don't have the package here, nor access to the machine from here. | 11:27 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: yes, that's fine | 11:27 |
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| pef | hello | 11:33 |
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| === siretart uploads avifile | ||
| Riddell | pitti: the archives are mixed up for akode, there's a new version got lost somewhere along the way and we need elmo to fix it | 11:39 |
| pitti | Riddell: ok, so you wouldn't mind dropping jack support? | 11:40 |
| slomo | elmo: please sync haskell-cabal and sablevm from debian/unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped | 11:45 |
| siretart | hm. avifile got accepted, but it builds new binary packages. shouldn't it be in NEW? | 11:46 |
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| infinity | siretart : It's not new source, only new binaries, so it's accepted, will get built, then the binaries will get stuck in NEW. | 12:16 |
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| slomo | elmo: and please sync gnome-gpg and kaffe from debian unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped | 12:18 |
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| infinity | elmo : I'd love it if I stopped getting unaccept spam. :/ | 02:55 |
| dholbach | Kamion, mdz: if you're there, could you please promote libgnome-vfsmm-2.6-1c2a and libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a to main? | 02:56 |
| pepsi | so im chasing a bug either with firefox or python-gnome2-extras (the python bindings for gtkembedmoz) that makes embedded mozilla browsers segfault | 02:57 |
| siretart | huhu dholbach! | 02:57 |
| dholbach | hi siretart :) | 02:57 |
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| dholbach | hi zakame | 03:12 |
| zakame | hi dholbach :-) | 03:13 |
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| \sh | moins dholbach | 03:15 |
| \sh | dholbach: are u working on libgconfmm-2.6 | 03:16 |
| slomo | infinity: please give-back rep-gtk on i386 if not already happenend and failed again | 03:17 |
| infinity | slomo : I just gave back the world about 20 seconds ago. You're too late. | 03:17 |
| slomo | infinity: ok ;) thanks | 03:17 |
| === \sh hugs infinity for this action :) | ||
| dholbach | \sh: it's not on dokos list | 03:18 |
| \sh | dholbach: it's uninstallable | 03:18 |
| infinity | Picky, picky. | 03:18 |
| dholbach | \sh: that's because of binary packages, which were not promoted yet | 03:18 |
| \sh | gnarf...that's why i'm sitting on some bugs | 03:18 |
| \sh | but good to know :) | 03:19 |
| dholbach | :) | 03:19 |
| \sh | think I' | 03:19 |
| \sh | m too fast for this time :) | 03:19 |
| dholbach | and i think, i'm out for a dogwalk... see you later guys :) | 03:19 |
| \sh | dholbach: have fun | 03:20 |
| dholbach | you too :) | 03:20 |
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| \sh | well...I' | 03:21 |
| dholbach | \sh: after libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a is promoted, gconfmm2.6 should just require a rebuild - feel free to do so (force new gtkmm in build-deps) | 03:21 |
| \sh | ll rock again on merges | 03:21 |
| === dholbach gives \sh a less responsive return-key | ||
| \sh | well... | 03:22 |
| \sh | yes | 03:22 |
| dholbach | :-) | 03:22 |
| pepsi | hrm.. a package doesnt know how to find a library.. how can i give it a hand in doing so? | 03:22 |
| \sh | dholbach: gtkmm2.4 is installable :) | 03:22 |
| dholbach | \sh: but the library package is in universe | 03:22 |
| \sh | dholbach: i'll wait...i have a lot of time and a bunch of other packages to work on :) and a cool tomboy documentation of things which are not fixed | 03:23 |
| dholbach | :-) | 03:23 |
| dholbach | right, have fun then :) | 03:23 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 03:23 |
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| siretart | whops. devscripts ftbfs | 03:31 |
| \sh | siretart: shame on you ,) | 03:32 |
| siretart | hey, it wasn't me! | 03:32 |
| \sh | siretart: fix it :) | 03:33 |
| \sh | siretart: you have the power...use the source, luke :) | 03:33 |
| siretart | \sh: mmh. seems to be some perl libdb bindings not at recent enough versions. has potential to break quite a lot.. hmmm | 03:35 |
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| pepsi | hi | 03:54 |
| pepsi | this here package is looking for a library in /usr/local/lib/mozilla-firefox instead of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox where it actually resides | 03:54 |
| pepsi | i dont knwo how decides where to look | 03:55 |
| siretart | which package? | 03:55 |
| pepsi | python2.4-gnome2-extras | 03:56 |
| \sh | infinity: why the hell I should go the NM way? | 04:01 |
| \sh | infinity: or the motus in total? | 04:02 |
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| zul | heylo | 04:30 |
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| HiddenWolf | When is the next flight due? | 04:41 |
| \sh | elmo: please sync gnotime , gsmlib from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx | 04:42 |
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| slomo | elmo: please sync sablevm, haskell-cabal, gnome-gpg, kaffe, sawfish, libnss-ldap from debian/unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped | 04:59 |
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| \sh | elmo: please sync libmath++ , pdftk , piuparts , libccaudio , devilspi from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx | 05:07 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh, devilspie? | 05:07 |
| \sh | yes | 05:07 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh, don't make poor elmo guess then. :) | 05:08 |
| \sh | elmo: [UPDATE:] please sync libmath++ , pdftk , piuparts , libccaudio , devilspie from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx | 05:08 |
| \sh | HiddenWolf: i don | 05:08 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh grins | 05:08 |
| HiddenWolf | :) | 05:08 |
| \sh | 't want to...and this enter key should be somewhere else | 05:08 |
| zakame | \sh: thank you :) | 05:08 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh, i'm pretty sure it's usually in the same spot. | 05:08 |
| \sh | well...one letter missing can sometimes be a big issue ,) | 05:18 |
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| psusi | bootchart lists the amount of cpu and IO during boot... is there a way to find out what files that IO is for? | 05:28 |
| HiddenWolf | psusi, check the source of the processes run. | 05:29 |
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| psusi | Ummm... I'm not going to read throuhg a million lines of code ;) | 05:31 |
| psusi | maybe strace? hrm... | 05:32 |
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| psusi | time for the daily dapper upgrades | 05:32 |
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| \sh | elmo: please sync gtkmathview , gtodo-applet , guifications , guppi from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx | 06:21 |
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| \sh | elmo: please sync hk-classes from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes | 07:58 |
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| fabbione | jbailey: ping? | 08:19 |
| \sh | evening fabbione | 08:20 |
| fabbione | hi \sh | 08:20 |
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| slomo_ | elmo: please sync python-xlib from debian/unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped | 08:39 |
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| ajmitch | elmo: please sync pyparsing from debian unstable, dropping ubuntu changes thanks | 08:42 |
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| Mithrandir | jamesh: around? | 09:29 |
| Mithrandir | jamesh: regarding pkg-config and Requires.private. Would it make sense for it to include the -I cflags from private packages? | 09:30 |
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| \sh | ok..start to go to bed...and sorry for spamming -changes ;) | 09:38 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh, how many merge bugs did you fix today? | 09:38 |
| \sh | HiddenWolf: most of the merges...but I'm waiting for elmo to sync a buch | 09:41 |
| \sh | bunch | 09:41 |
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| HiddenWolf | \sh, congrats. :) | 09:41 |
| \sh | HiddenWolf: oh well no...more then 200 packages left....a lot of work to do | 09:42 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh, work has a tendency to keep piling up. Still, nice job, for a sunday. | 09:42 |
| \sh | HiddenWolf: yesterday I did more ,) | 09:42 |
| HiddenWolf | \sh, yesterday was not a sunday. | 09:43 |
| HiddenWolf | day of rest, you know. ;) | 09:43 |
| \sh | but this is all not important...at least we are done when 2nd of feb is hitting us | 09:43 |
| \sh | and then there will be another round of unmet deps...brrr | 09:43 |
| HiddenWolf | 2nd of feb? | 09:44 |
| \sh | w.u.c/DapperReleaseSchedule | 09:44 |
| \sh | "Remaning Upstream merges completed" | 09:44 |
| \sh | remaining even | 09:45 |
| ogra | not renaming ? :p | 09:45 |
| \sh | ogra: BAH | 09:46 |
| ogra | heh | 09:46 |
| \sh | ogra: u see...I'm just completly confused | 09:47 |
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| ogra | \sh, get some sleep | 09:47 |
| \sh | ogra: one cigarette close to sleep | 09:47 |
| \sh | ogra: how is edubuntu coming along? | 09:49 |
| ogra | restuctured ldm today ... | 09:49 |
| ogra | i hope mdz likes it now :) | 09:49 |
| \sh | :) | 09:49 |
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| ogra | and i'm starting to hate kino... somehow its totally broken and keeps the CD from being ready | 09:50 |
| \sh | kino? | 09:50 |
| \sh | kde app? | 09:50 |
| ogra | heh, nope | 09:50 |
| HiddenWolf | unfortunatly not. | 09:50 |
| HiddenWolf | it's a gtk app in bad taste. ;) | 09:50 |
| ogra | luckily not | 09:50 |
| \sh | hmmm...laptops burning after I told email client to mark 2000 mails as read | 09:51 |
| \sh | but no crash...nice...good kmail | 09:51 |
| === HiddenWolf hands \sh a firehose | ||
| \sh | ok...done for today...good night people | 09:54 |
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| sistpoty | elmo: please sync openc++ from unstable, ubuntu override ok | 10:10 |
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| tseng | Diziet: ping | 10:27 |
| tseng | Diziet: alot of stuff seems to be ftbfs because nsServiceManagerUtils.h isnt shipped in the headers in firefox-dev, it looks at first glance like a build system question than a packaging question (you include all of /usr/include/mozilla-firefox) | 10:29 |
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| ajmitch | elmo: please sync bicyclerepair from sid, dropping ubuntu changes thanks | 10:54 |
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