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[04:36] cause i dont know python :) [04:36] ah [04:36] good time to learn [04:36] interesting that its a gui app [04:36] i wasnt aware that you could do that [04:36] there are python bindings for virtually everything [04:45] hrm [04:45] im sure there are more files for development than just what gets distributed though [04:45] how can i find that? :) [04:46] pepsi, you can find the deb source, but with python you already have everything [04:47] hrm === mahangu [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] alrighty.. if everything i need is in this here .py file, i guess its on to learning python for me :) [04:50] pepsi, I haven't looked at g-a-i but that should be most of what you need [04:57] oh theres some fun stuff like a .glade file in the source package [04:57] that defines the interface [04:57] right === psusi [n=phreak@103.202.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asipos [n=chatzill@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] bootchart shows how much processing and IO is going on during boot... is there a way to find out exactly which files are being accessed? === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-18-121-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C18307.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [i=stub@sweep.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Phoul [n=colin@S0106004005b748fa.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yi [n=yi@c-67-168-191-82.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] daniels: any progress on the evdev issue? 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[09:43] sivang: yes [09:43] fabbione: k, cool [09:43] there is a pcmcia* transition going on afaik [09:43] fabbione: ah I see, also loads of packages synaptic can't upgrade, I wonder if a dist-upgrade would do that [09:44] dunno [09:44] didn't upgrade yet [09:44] oh! I just recalled someone said something about Kamion replacing cardmgr or so [09:45] exactly [09:46] fabbione: Do you recall why GLw support was killed out of mesa? [09:47] cardmgr being replaced with what? udev? [09:48] pccardmgr, iirc [09:49] StevenK: no sorry.. that's a daniels question. I *think* it was to remove duplication since the code was getting more and more the same [09:49] fabbione: I've pinged daniels, but you were talking so I thought I'd ask you anyway. [09:50] StevenK: daniels is VAC for a week or so [09:50] StevenK: no problem.. i just don't know the answer :) [09:50] Blah. === StevenK ponders making speech-dispatcher not run make clean if the Makefile doesn't exist. [09:51] StevenK: just call -$(MAKE) clean [09:51] it will fail gracefully if Makefile is not there [09:51] But if the Makefile doesn't exist, this package calls ./configure [09:51] So it runs ./configure for clean and then again for building. [09:51] crap [09:52] Exactly what I thought. [09:52] that's similar to what i have to do with redhat-cluster-suite [09:52] but the configure is neither sane or evil [09:52] It runs -$(MAKE) distclean [09:52] it's some hacked up shell script... === StevenK ponders adding test -f Makefile && to the front. === StevenK goes to think about it while he gets called away. === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61D43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-143-5.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:34] Hi [10:36] hey Martin! [10:36] Riddell: ping [10:36] hi pitti [10:36] hi === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] Hi siretart, fabbione, ajmitch [10:38] so, are we getting rid of python 2.3 dependencies & packages now? :) === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:39] doko_: I've got a list of zope packages to merge, holding off until I know what the 2.3 vs 2.4 situation is === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-120-93.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@137.163-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] elmo: please sync gnomemm from unstable, overriding ubunut changes. thnx === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487D0C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-170-53.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-170-53.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:03] pitti: hi [11:05] elmo: please sync gxmms from unstable, overriding ubuntu changes [11:08] uhm, did we rename ff to deer park? [11:10] Mithrandir: just like debian did, AFAICT [11:11] heh, 'k [11:11] elmo: please sync hamlib from unstable, overriding ubuntu changes [11:11] Mithrandir: it was VERY weird to me as well :) [11:11] <\sh> moins [11:11] hi \sh [11:11] moins \sh, ajmitch , Mithrandir [11:12] <\sh> well..it's raining, it's colde...and I have a very nice headache...good morning world === zeedo [n=zeedo@80.68.92.188] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:12] <\sh> s/colde/cold/ [11:12] elmo: please sync rdiff-backup from sid, dropping ubuntu changes thanks [11:12] \sh: but it's sunday :) Imagine yourself you would have had to be at work now, as I am now [11:13] sivang, you mean they renamed the source package to deerpark? [11:13] <\sh> sivang: well, it's less then 4 weeks to x-mas [11:13] ajmitch : Yes, we're trying to get rid of python2.3 in mina. [11:13] ajmitch : main, too. [11:14] infinity: right, I think zope 2.x was being dropped back to universe, so those packages could be untouched if we wanted [11:14] ajmitch : zope2.x has already been punted to universe. We did it at UBZ. [11:14] I'll wait for doko's info on it [11:14] Burgundavia: not yet, but s/firefox/deer park/ branding all over the prog [11:15] wonderful [11:15] sivang, ah [11:15] sivang, Mozilla's trademark chickens are coming home.... [11:15] Burgundavia: something related to moz's licnese , or TM rules don't really recall [11:15] ;) [11:16] sivang: and it shows up in epiphany too === sivang fires epiphany [11:16] like when it asks to save passwords [11:16] we had better publicize that well so that people don't wonder where FF went [11:16] Are you sure it's not just named Deer Park during the beta period? [11:17] I assumed it was [11:17] That was my assumption. [11:17] as did i [11:17] infinity: worth a check [11:17] I'm pretty sure that's the case. [11:18] infinity: seems you are right. damn rumors spreader :) [11:18] <\sh> let's spread rumours without any checks...and on the 1st if April...we will call all people who believed in those rumours "fools" ;) [11:18] infinity, but 1.5 is about to become stable [11:18] <\sh> s/if/of/ [11:18] Burgundavia : About to. It isn't currently. [11:18] Burgundavia : Rebranding the Mozilla source is VERY easy. I assume upstream will rebrad last thing before release. === sivang thanks infinity for preventing him from being 1's april fool. [11:19] elmo: please sync imms from unstable, overriding ubuntu changes [11:19] Riddell: could you teach libakode-dev to not use jack? [11:19] infinity: how come it's easy? I've heared everything else is not...;-) [11:19] Riddell: or is that explicitly wanted? [11:19] siretart : Oh, dude. Was it you that requested a sync of a library that has a different name in Ubuntu and Debian? [11:20] infinity: if you are talking about avifile, yes [11:20] siretart : You need to hand-merge that, not sync it, otherwise you'll be missing the "replaces: libfooc2" to make it overwrite the Ubuntu lib. [11:20] siretart : Unless the Debian maintainer has put that Replaces in there for you. [11:20] *selfslap* [11:21] infinity: you are right, I knew why I was asking ubuntu-devel first.. [11:21] I'm on it [11:21] siretart : Probably best to get a Conflicts/Replaces in the Debian package anyway, but for now, you can't use a package without it. [11:21] <\sh> elmo: don't listen to siretart avifile sync, thx [11:22] elmo: \sh is right, I was wrong about that avifile sync [11:22] siretart: in which case, you can now hand-merge it and upload, since the sync will then fail (if elmo is reading it consecutively rather than reading through and removing it) === herzi [n=herzi@c138037.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] Mithrandir: thats what I mean with 'I'm on it'.. yes [11:23] siretart : And by "hand merge", I mean "take the Debian source, and add the conflict/replace"... No need to do any other "merging". [11:23] siretart: go faster! ;-P [11:23] infinity: yes. I doing it right now [11:23] siretart : Especially if you file a wishlist bug in Debian asking for them to add the conflict/replace there as well, so you can sync it later. === siretart runs [11:24] <\sh> Mithrandir: got my whishlist request for ravel? :) [11:24] err, stop [11:24] \sh: yes, but I'm on my way out now, so I won't do it for another few hours. [11:24] Replaces: libavifile0.7, libavifile0.7c102, libavifile-0.7c102 [11:24] Conflicts: libavifile0.7, libavifile0.7c102, libavifile-0.7c102 [11:24] this is in the debian package I requested the sync from [11:25] new binary package name is libavifile-0.7c2 [11:25] <\sh> Mithrandir: no...don't do it now...I just realised, there wasn't any yesterday...so play in the snow on the 1st advent [11:25] infinity: this should be fine, shouldn't it? [11:25] siretart : What was the old libname in Ubuntu? [11:25] <\sh> without the c2 when it was before c102 [11:26] pitti: any chance you could take a look at my sane-backends merge tomorrow? I think it's sane, but you've looked at it before, and I'm not sure I do all the right things at the right places. [11:26] siretart : You need to Conflict/Replace libavifile-0.7 as well. [11:26] infinity: it is currently libavifile-0.7 [11:26] Mithrandir: sure, no problem; I don't have a scanner, though, but I should still know the mods I made [11:26] ah, the '-' matters. okay.. [11:27] pitti: thanks, great. I'll just ping you when I'm at work tomorrow, since I don't have the package here, nor access to the machine from here. [11:27] Mithrandir: yes, that's fine === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] hello === ctd [n=ctd@unaffiliated/ctd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMoSnail is now known as slomo === siretart uploads avifile [11:39] pitti: the archives are mixed up for akode, there's a new version got lost somewhere along the way and we need elmo to fix it [11:40] Riddell: ok, so you wouldn't mind dropping jack support? [11:45] elmo: please sync haskell-cabal and sablevm from debian/unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped [11:46] hm. avifile got accepted, but it builds new binary packages. shouldn't it be in NEW? === pitti_ [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D07E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] siretart : It's not new source, only new binaries, so it's accepted, will get built, then the binaries will get stuck in NEW. === jsz [n=diego@59.Red-80-36-85.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] elmo: and please sync gnome-gpg and kaffe from debian unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped === kyncani [n=kyncani@lns-bzn-1-82-250-16-243.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mahangu [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C18307.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@p54896997.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-085-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Valandil is now known as Valandil|work === ctd [n=ctd@unaffiliated/ctd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mahangu_ [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ctd [n=ctd@unaffiliated/ctd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.229.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xTina [n=xTina@dslb-084-056-134-007.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@66.190.110.85] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mahangu__ [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kozz [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] elmo : I'd love it if I stopped getting unaccept spam. :/ [02:56] Kamion, mdz: if you're there, could you please promote libgnome-vfsmm-2.6-1c2a and libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a to main? [02:57] so im chasing a bug either with firefox or python-gnome2-extras (the python bindings for gtkembedmoz) that makes embedded mozilla browsers segfault [02:57] huhu dholbach! [02:57] hi siretart :) === mahangu__ [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@210.213.77.185] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] hi zakame [03:13] hi dholbach :-) === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] <\sh> moins dholbach [03:16] <\sh> dholbach: are u working on libgconfmm-2.6 [03:17] infinity: please give-back rep-gtk on i386 if not already happenend and failed again [03:17] slomo : I just gave back the world about 20 seconds ago. You're too late. [03:17] infinity: ok ;) thanks === \sh hugs infinity for this action :) [03:18] \sh: it's not on dokos list [03:18] <\sh> dholbach: it's uninstallable [03:18] Picky, picky. [03:18] \sh: that's because of binary packages, which were not promoted yet [03:18] <\sh> gnarf...that's why i'm sitting on some bugs [03:19] <\sh> but good to know :) [03:19] :) [03:19] <\sh> think I' [03:19] <\sh> m too fast for this time :) [03:19] and i think, i'm out for a dogwalk... see you later guys :) [03:20] <\sh> dholbach: have fun [03:20] you too :) === kozz [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:21] <\sh> well...I' [03:21] \sh: after libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a is promoted, gconfmm2.6 should just require a rebuild - feel free to do so (force new gtkmm in build-deps) [03:21] <\sh> ll rock again on merges === dholbach gives \sh a less responsive return-key [03:22] <\sh> well... [03:22] <\sh> yes [03:22] :-) [03:22] hrm.. a package doesnt know how to find a library.. how can i give it a hand in doing so? [03:22] <\sh> dholbach: gtkmm2.4 is installable :) [03:22] \sh: but the library package is in universe [03:23] <\sh> dholbach: i'll wait...i have a lot of time and a bunch of other packages to work on :) and a cool tomboy documentation of things which are not fixed [03:23] :-) [03:23] right, have fun then :) [03:23] *wave* === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:31] whops. devscripts ftbfs [03:32] <\sh> siretart: shame on you ,) [03:32] hey, it wasn't me! [03:33] <\sh> siretart: fix it :) [03:33] <\sh> siretart: you have the power...use the source, luke :) [03:35] \sh: mmh. seems to be some perl libdb bindings not at recent enough versions. has potential to break quite a lot.. hmmm === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D07E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === splinux [n=splinux@213.162-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === splinux [n=splinux@213.162-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Quitte"] [03:54] hi [03:54] this here package is looking for a library in /usr/local/lib/mozilla-firefox instead of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox where it actually resides [03:55] i dont knwo how decides where to look [03:55] which package? [03:56] python2.4-gnome2-extras [04:01] <\sh> infinity: why the hell I should go the NM way? [04:02] <\sh> infinity: or the motus in total? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@p54896997.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alef-null [i=alef0@M985P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alef-null is now known as alef0 === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable058.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@Toronto-HSE-ppp3640981.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:30] heylo === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DA12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === frans-th [i=frans-th@61.5.65.252] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:41] When is the next flight due? [04:42] <\sh> elmo: please sync gnotime , gsmlib from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx === herz1 [n=herzi@d094088.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [04:59] elmo: please sync sablevm, haskell-cabal, gnome-gpg, kaffe, sawfish, libnss-ldap from debian/unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped === psusi [n=phreak@103.202.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:07] <\sh> elmo: please sync libmath++ , pdftk , piuparts , libccaudio , devilspi from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx [05:07] \sh, devilspie? [05:07] <\sh> yes [05:08] \sh, don't make poor elmo guess then. :) [05:08] <\sh> elmo: [UPDATE:] please sync libmath++ , pdftk , piuparts , libccaudio , devilspie from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx [05:08] <\sh> HiddenWolf: i don [05:08] \sh grins [05:08] :) [05:08] <\sh> 't want to...and this enter key should be somewhere else [05:08] \sh: thank you :) [05:08] \sh, i'm pretty sure it's usually in the same spot. [05:18] <\sh> well...one letter missing can sometimes be a big issue ,) === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rubenv [n=lambda1@ip-83-134-126-79.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:28] bootchart lists the amount of cpu and IO during boot... is there a way to find out what files that IO is for? [05:29] psusi, check the source of the processes run. === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D07E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:31] Ummm... I'm not going to read throuhg a million lines of code ;) [05:32] maybe strace? hrm... === Danten [n=danten@h63n1c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-devel [05:32] time for the daily dapper upgrades === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === BenC_ [n=bcollins@richmond-209-163-125-167.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Loevborg [n=loevborg@d4-84.dip.axsp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A631C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:21] <\sh> elmo: please sync gtkmathview , gtodo-applet , guifications , guppi from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes ok, thx === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-82-136.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang -> back === salborin [n=salborin@alborini.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === salborin [n=salborin@alborini.plus.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-139-134.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-174-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yi [n=yi@c-67-168-191-82.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsz [n=diego@59.Red-80-36-85.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:58] <\sh> elmo: please sync hk-classes from unstable, dropping ubuntu changes === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] jbailey: ping? [08:20] <\sh> evening fabbione [08:20] hi \sh === Loevborg [n=loevborg@d4-84.dip.axsp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-254.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === grover [n=grover@216-99-218-29.dsl.aracnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] elmo: please sync python-xlib from debian/unstable... ubuntu changes can be dropped === du2br [i=nobody@200.231.31.238] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:42] elmo: please sync pyparsing from debian unstable, dropping ubuntu changes thanks === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62219.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-120-93.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-120-93.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@d83-177-237-149.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjcc [i=pat@14.Red-213-97-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjcc [i=pat@14.Red-213-97-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [n=rpGirl@214.84-48-74.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:29] jamesh: around? [09:30] jamesh: regarding pkg-config and Requires.private. Would it make sense for it to include the -I cflags from private packages? === zer0cubed [n=zer0cube@ip24-252-29-204.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sethbc [n=sethbc@adsl169.230.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:38] <\sh> ok..start to go to bed...and sorry for spamming -changes ;) [09:38] \sh, how many merge bugs did you fix today? [09:41] <\sh> HiddenWolf: most of the merges...but I'm waiting for elmo to sync a buch [09:41] <\sh> bunch === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-093-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] \sh, congrats. :) [09:42] <\sh> HiddenWolf: oh well no...more then 200 packages left....a lot of work to do [09:42] \sh, work has a tendency to keep piling up. Still, nice job, for a sunday. [09:42] <\sh> HiddenWolf: yesterday I did more ,) [09:43] \sh, yesterday was not a sunday. [09:43] day of rest, you know. ;) [09:43] <\sh> but this is all not important...at least we are done when 2nd of feb is hitting us [09:43] <\sh> and then there will be another round of unmet deps...brrr [09:44] 2nd of feb? [09:44] <\sh> w.u.c/DapperReleaseSchedule [09:44] <\sh> "Remaning Upstream merges completed" [09:45] <\sh> remaining even [09:45] not renaming ? :p [09:46] <\sh> ogra: BAH [09:46] heh [09:47] <\sh> ogra: u see...I'm just completly confused === muadda [n=muadda@gar31-3-82-234-50-167.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] \sh, get some sleep [09:47] <\sh> ogra: one cigarette close to sleep [09:49] <\sh> ogra: how is edubuntu coming along? [09:49] restuctured ldm today ... [09:49] i hope mdz likes it now :) [09:49] <\sh> :) === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] and i'm starting to hate kino... somehow its totally broken and keeps the CD from being ready [09:50] <\sh> kino? [09:50] <\sh> kde app? [09:50] heh, nope [09:50] unfortunatly not. [09:50] it's a gtk app in bad taste. ;) [09:50] luckily not [09:51] <\sh> hmmm...laptops burning after I told email client to mark 2000 mails as read [09:51] <\sh> but no crash...nice...good kmail === HiddenWolf hands \sh a firehose [09:54] <\sh> ok...done for today...good night people === GmanAFK is now known as Gman === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable058.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.144.193.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] elmo: please sync openc++ from unstable, ubuntu override ok === Psylon [n=kirt@c-67-185-22-32.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-139-134.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] Diziet: ping [10:29] Diziet: alot of stuff seems to be ftbfs because nsServiceManagerUtils.h isnt shipped in the headers in firefox-dev, it looks at first glance like a build system question than a packaging question (you include all of /usr/include/mozilla-firefox) === alef0 [i=alef0@M985P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #ubuntu-devel ["(void*)"] === xhaker [n=xhaker@luna.sublimesp.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] elmo: please sync bicyclerepair from sid, dropping ubuntu changes thanks === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MenZa` [n=menza@0x50a1605a.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-55-1.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === torkel_ is now known as torkel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-085-061.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-55-1.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel