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| veda | hi | 12:31 |
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| veda | is there any localized version of edubuntu in spanish? | 12:31 |
| ogra | you can install any language post install ... | 12:32 |
| ogra | we support all languages ubuntu supports | 12:33 |
| veda | great! | 12:36 |
| veda | tnx | 12:36 |
| ogra | if you dont have net access to install the language, try the dvd, it contains all 90 languages :) | 12:37 |
| veda | :-P | 12:38 |
| veda | I'll try both | 12:38 |
| veda | thanks again | 12:38 |
| ogra | (the CD only contains the english language packs, you need to grab additional langs from the net... not enough space there) | 12:38 |
| ogra | youre welcome :) | 12:38 |
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| noah | neither the front page nor the faq mentions how edubuntu differs from regular ubuntu... seems like a slightly glaring omission... | 02:10 |
| noah | "educational software (such as GCompris and the KDE education suite)" -- is that it? | 02:11 |
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| neoandertal | any brazilian here? | 06:30 |
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| cafuego | mornin'! | 07:31 |
| juliux | morning | 07:31 |
| cafuego | can anyone tel me how I can tweak screen resolutions for clients? | 07:31 |
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| pc22 | shalom davix | 09:07 |
| highvoltage | morning guys | 09:11 |
| pc22 | hello | 09:11 |
| pc22 | re: broken packages during installation. and wont fix broken packages. do i have to redownload installer? | 09:11 |
| highvoltage | pc22: did you md5sum check your cd image before burning it? | 09:18 |
| pc22 | no | 09:18 |
| pc22 | how do i do it | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | it could be that something went wrong with the cd download | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | did you download to a windows or a linux machine? | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | in linux you just type "md5sum cdimage.iso" | 09:19 |
| pc22 | windows | 09:19 |
| pc22 | in xp? | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | i'm not sure how to do it in windows, i think there is information about it on the wiki... | 09:19 |
| pc22 | highvoltage, u using edubuntu? | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | i'll see if i can find it. | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | yep. | 09:19 |
| pc22 | cool | 09:20 |
| pc22 | actually my iso is edubuntu | 09:20 |
| highvoltage | pc22: look at http://wiki.edubuntu.org/Checksum?highlight=%28md5sum%29 | 09:22 |
| highvoltage | there's a link on the bottom of the page to winmd5sum, a program that lets you check ISO's under Windows | 09:23 |
| pc22 | i have a homenetwork | 09:24 |
| pc22 | what can edubuntu do for me? for the kids? ;) | 09:24 |
| pc22 | highvoltage, how do i compare? | 09:27 |
| highvoltage | sorry, been on phone. | 09:35 |
| highvoltage | compare the md5sums? | 09:35 |
| highvoltage | in linux i just type "md5sum filename.iso" | 09:35 |
| highvoltage | i suppose the windows one will work similar. | 09:35 |
| pc22 | highvoltage its done | 10:16 |
| pc22 | perfect | 10:16 |
| pc22 | now trying to isntall | 10:16 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: hi there. i'm working on some edubuntu documentation for future tuxlab rollout. will the lts.conf file still be fully supported in future versions of ubuntu ltsp? | 12:09 |
| ogra | sure | 12:10 |
| ogra | see mdz's changelog, there are a lot more options supported already | 12:10 |
| ogra | highvoltage, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/ relies on lts.conf ;) | 12:11 |
| highvoltage | excellent! | 12:11 |
| ogra | (or will, once its implemented) | 12:11 |
| highvoltage | ogra: is this what you're talking about? | 12:12 |
| highvoltage | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLtsConfParams?action=show&redirect=EdubuntuLtsParams | 12:12 |
| highvoltage | or where can i find mdz's changelog? | 12:12 |
| ogra | nope, that are the breezy config options we support ... | 12:12 |
| ogra | in his bzr branch, install bzr and bzrk, then do a bzr viz with his url... wait, have to look it up | 12:13 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: don't worry, i have enought to keep me busy with for now :) | 12:15 |
| highvoltage | i'll check out bzr again a bit later. | 12:15 |
| ogra | bzr viz http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/bazaar/ltsp/main/ | 12:15 |
| ogra | thats the command :) | 12:15 |
| highvoltage | omg, i don't have bzr installed yet | 12:16 |
| ogra | deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./ | 12:16 |
| ogra | grab it from there | 12:16 |
| ogra | and bzrk ... thats a neat gui | 12:17 |
| Yagisan | ogra: thanks for the packaging help. the Replaces and dpkg-divert magic worked well :) | 12:32 |
| ogra | great :) | 12:32 |
| Yagisan | ogra: the game I was packaging looks *really* good now, with those updates | 12:33 |
| ogra | great, rhrow it on revu then ;) | 12:33 |
| ogra | *throw | 12:33 |
| Yagisan | ogra: I can't :( I need to dfsg the source for revu, and siretart canned the data packs because upstream won't write a license | 12:35 |
| Yagisan | that says anything other then "non-commercial use only" | 12:35 |
| ogra | bah | 12:35 |
| Yagisan | ogra: It's also "not good" to load about 1GB of data packs to revu O:-) | 12:36 |
| ogra | ugh, 1GB ? | 12:36 |
| Yagisan | ogra: That's a lot of textures, models - for Doom, Heretic and Hexen | 12:37 |
| ogra | ah | 12:37 |
| Yagisan | ogra: The screenshots on my page need to be replaced, it looks better now - I'm doing the hexen updates now, and heretic tommorow | 12:38 |
| Yagisan | ogra: apparently I've been told in some places eg Germany, that if it isn't explicitly permitted, then it is forbidden | 12:40 |
| Yagisan | that is why the data packs where rejected | 12:40 |
| ogra | yup... | 12:40 |
| Yagisan | where it is opposite here, unless explicitly forbidden, it is permitted | 12:41 |
| Yagisan | and obviously where upstream for the data packs too (they are mirrored all over the net - but can't be in ubuntu :( ) | 12:42 |
| Yagisan | For kicks, I should try to get it running as a local app | 12:42 |
| ajmitch_ | I think the usual convention is redistribution is forbidden unless otherwise allowed | 12:43 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch_: Yep, I'm still trying to convince upstream to write a decent license, I don't really want to do a msttcorefonts type package | 12:44 |
| ajmitch_ | the only way stuff can get into multiverse is if we have redistribution, that's not just a special grant to ubuntu | 12:45 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch_: Most packs have redistribution that isn't a special grant, but I have to get a forum post for it - it's not in a license | 12:46 |
| ajmitch_ | which doesn't cut it | 12:46 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch_: It's a pain in the neck to have to save the forum post, it really should be in a license file. Anyway hows things going ? | 12:49 |
| ajmitch_ | things are going well enough, how are you? | 12:49 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch_: I'm very busy, the new baby is taking up lots of time, and my mother-in-law has just been diagnosed with cancer :( | 12:50 |
| ajmitch_ | oh dear :( | 12:50 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch_: I'm trying to get 1000 paper cranes folded and posted to her as soon as possible | 12:51 |
| ajmitch_ | ouch, good luck | 12:51 |
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| Yagisan | ajmitch_: It's supposed to grant her a wish (at least that's the story), so tomorrow I'm off to get more paper | 12:52 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch_: It sucks, she's a non-smoker, non-drinker, does everything right, and she still got cancer. | 12:53 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: i get: | 01:14 |
| highvoltage | W: GPG error: http://people.ubuntu.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B0B7481B1F44842D | 01:14 |
| highvoltage | how do i import that key into apt again? | 01:14 |
| highvoltage | or should i just disable the gpg checking | 01:14 |
| ogra | just igrnore it for now ... it will install anyway and jbailey is ubuntu dev, you can trust him :) | 01:15 |
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| ogra | you can download his key from the keyserver and run: sudo apt-key add <keyfile> | 01:17 |
| highvoltage | i can't install bzr because of some package problems. my punishment for being on dapper :) | 01:17 |
| ajmitch_ | which problems? | 01:17 |
| ogra | i'm on dapper too... | 01:17 |
| ogra | works fine here | 01:17 |
| highvoltage | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 01:17 |
| highvoltage | livesupport-libs: Depends: unixodbc but it is not going to be installed | 01:17 |
| highvoltage | Depends: unixodbc (>= 2.2) but it is not going to be installed | 01:17 |
| ajmitch_ | ah, totaly unrelated to bzr | 01:18 |
| highvoltage | oh. ok. | 01:18 |
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| Yagisan | ogra: would load balancing or clustering software be of interest to you with edubuntu ? It looks like openmosix has a working 2.6 release now | 01:23 |
| ogra | not for dapper | 01:24 |
| Yagisan | ogra: but in general yes ? (I'll mention dapper for requests/suggestions for dapper) | 01:24 |
| ogra | we havent decided yet if we will include something along this lines ... at ubz we only talke about load balancing cluster solution... | 01:25 |
| ogra | but if you can provide a working solution that doesnt contain evil kernel patching .... | 01:26 |
| Yagisan | ogra: :( needs "evil" kernel patching | 01:27 |
| ogra | i suspected this ... | 01:27 |
| Yagisan | ogra: but then, the ubuntu kernel looks nothing like vanilla ... | 01:27 |
| ogra | ask in #ubuntu-kernel how likely it might be that we'll have it in any of our kernel packages | 01:27 |
| ogra | but we only accept patches that are announced to eventually go upstream afaik | 01:28 |
| ogra | it might not be vanilla now :) | 01:28 |
| Yagisan | ogra: oh, then this will never get accepted. linus and openmosix project lead want to keep them separate | 01:29 |
| Yagisan | oh my god, my 21 month old daughter has worked out how to open the 3 locks on the door to my office | 01:33 |
| Yagisan | my pc's won't be safe now | 01:34 |
| juliux | re | 01:49 |
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| highvoltage | i wish i had more time to play with ubuntu ltsp. | 02:01 |
| jsgotangco | same here | 02:01 |
| highvoltage | ogra: if you put SCREEN_01=shell with ultsp, do you get a local shell on the terminal like with ltsp.org? | 02:01 |
| ogra | i think it was 07, but yes ... look in the mailing list, mdz once posted someting about it | 02:02 |
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| lucasvo | hi | 02:19 |
| juliux | hi lucasvo | 02:28 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: that wiki page said that SWAP_SERVER is implemented but not tested, does that use NBD or NFS? | 02:44 |
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| ogra | highvoltage, there is no nfs swap in kernel 2.6 | 02:45 |
| ogra | so it needs to be NBD :) | 02:46 |
| highvoltage | aaaah | 02:48 |
| highvoltage | that explains why ltsp.org still uses 2.4 kernels. | 02:48 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: what work are you doing with ltsp ? | 02:49 |
| ogra | Yagisan, he's Mr. tuXlabs | 02:50 |
| Yagisan | I see. so will we be seeing some ltsp improvements ? | 02:51 |
| ogra | highvoltage, ltsp.org uses 2.6 as well in the 4.2 branch | 02:52 |
| highvoltage | interesting. i think i'll stick with the ubuntu ltsp from now on though ;) | 03:01 |
| highvoltage | except for the ltsp 4.1 that we'll use until we install dapper in all the schools. | 03:01 |
| highvoltage | the cool thing is, that gives me a good excuse to work on edubuntu docs in work time :) | 03:02 |
| highvoltage | but now i need to go home. | 03:02 |
| highvoltage | bye ogra and Yagisan. | 03:03 |
| ogra | ciao highvoltage | 03:03 |
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| ogra | Yagisan, oh, btw, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/multiarch/ | 03:31 |
| ogra | lets see if mdz accepts it now... | 03:31 |
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| Yagisan | thanks ogra - I was having a very late dinner | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | G'day mhz | 03:42 |
| mhz | hey | 03:43 |
| mhz | how's your in-laws? | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | mhz: My mother in-law has been diagnosed with cancer :( | 03:43 |
| mhz | ooops :( | 03:43 |
| mhz | i'm truly sorry | 03:44 |
| neurogeek | Yagisan, sorry to hear that | 03:44 |
| Yagisan | thanks mhz, neurogeek | 03:44 |
| mhz | how bad? | 03:44 |
| Yagisan | she got the news 2 days before my son was born, and didn't tell us until my wife was out of the hospital | 03:45 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I don't know. She has an operation in December | 03:45 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I'm making 1000 paper cranes for her and I hope to post them as soon as possible | 03:46 |
| mhz | hmm, I have no clue what to say or do to help | 03:46 |
| Yagisan | mhz: Japanese think that if you make 1000 paper cranes, you can be granted a wish | 03:47 |
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| Yagisan | mhz, can't even fly there to be with here, because of the newborn baby | 03:48 |
| Yagisan | s/here/her | 03:48 |
| SatanGolga | hmm, what the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu, i think they look pretty similar? | 03:49 |
| ogra | edubuntu is built around LTSP | 03:50 |
| Yagisan | SatanGolga: (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu are the same system, but with different default configurations | 03:50 |
| ogra | it adds most of kdeedu and tux4kids to the desktop | 03:50 |
| ogra | and has different artwork | 03:50 |
| SatanGolga | aha, ok | 03:50 |
| SatanGolga | i use ubuntu atm | 03:51 |
| Yagisan | SatanGolga: It's more targeted at an educational setting, but if you have kids, it's also good for home | 03:51 |
| SatanGolga | heh, ok | 03:52 |
| SatanGolga | btw, congrats to the baby :) | 03:53 |
| Yagisan | SatanGolga, thanks :) | 03:53 |
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| Yagisan | night all | 04:50 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 04:57 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, | 04:57 |
| mhz | hi Lord_Athur | 04:57 |
| Lord_Athur | may I tell you something by query? | 04:57 |
| mhz | sure | 04:58 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, can you say the name of the book about Python? | 04:59 |
| Lord_Athur | I'd like to buy it | 04:59 |
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| mhz | hmmm, let me look | 04:59 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 05:00 |
| Lord_Athur | hey | 05:00 |
| mhz | buy it? not download it? | 05:00 |
| Lord_Athur | download :p | 05:00 |
| Lord_Athur | hey you have not answer the query yet | 05:00 |
| Lord_Athur | ... | 05:00 |
| ogra | its even packaged and installed by default ;) diveintopython is the name | 05:00 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 05:01 |
| Lord_Athur | thanks | 05:01 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, contesta el privado | 05:02 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 05:02 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: How to Think like a Computer Scientist, Learning with Python | 05:02 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: no tengo pregunta tuya a mi url? | 05:03 |
| Lord_Athur | en tu wiki | 05:03 |
| mhz | ogra: hehehe | 05:03 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz en tu wiki? | 05:03 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: www.thinkpython.com | 05:04 |
| mhz | url donde tu pusiste tu summary | 05:05 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, ok pero me refera al privado que abr por Xchat | 05:05 |
| Lord_Athur | que summary? | 05:06 |
| Lord_Athur | no cacho naa | 05:06 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 05:06 |
| mhz | parece que no nos vemos en query | 05:07 |
| Lord_Athur | eso creo | 05:07 |
| Lord_Athur | !! | 05:07 |
| Lord_Athur | how can I talk to "bash" (leo)? | 05:08 |
| mhz | tienes una url para tu summary? | 05:08 |
| Lord_Athur | la de wiki q te coment no ma | 05:08 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: hehehe, ni idea. Podrias mandar un mail a arkan0x, tal vez? | 05:08 |
| Lord_Athur | 05:09 | |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 05:09 |
| Lord_Athur | :) | 05:09 |
| Lord_Athur | estaba "buena" la cabra argentina | 05:09 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 05:09 |
| Lord_Athur | osea saba arto de distros | 05:09 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: se que arkan0x tiene contaxcto regular con bash | 05:09 |
| Lord_Athur | pero no entend cual es su proyecto | 05:09 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: indeed | 05:09 |
| Lord_Athur | ap ok | 05:09 |
| mhz | difusion de FLOSS para multimedios (Vj's and Dj's) | 05:10 |
| Lord_Athur | ap ok | 05:10 |
| Lord_Athur | debe tener su pgina wiki para leerle ms | 05:10 |
| Lord_Athur | te la di? | 05:11 |
| mhz | si tiene, pero no la he buscado aun | 05:11 |
| mhz | creo que el colectivo se llama 'troyano' | 05:11 |
| Lord_Athur | ap ok | 05:11 |
| mhz | y su url deberia incluir .ar | 05:11 |
| mhz | :d | 05:11 |
| Lord_Athur | oye | 05:11 |
| Lord_Athur | abre una ventana de privado para mostrarte algo porfa | 05:11 |
| Lord_Athur | parece q la tienes deshabilitada | 05:12 |
| Lord_Athur | 05:14 | |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, It'd be better if we talk only in Enlgish | 05:14 |
| Lord_Athur | la otra vez unos gringos se enojaron | 05:14 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 05:14 |
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| Lord_Athur | jajaja | 05:16 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, did you see my own wiki page? | 05:17 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: ok, let's stay tuned in english here | 05:17 |
| mhz | yup | 05:17 |
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| mhz | and I already gave you some comments in 'query'. Could you see them? | 05:17 |
| mhz | hakuna matata? | 05:18 |
| mhz | :) | 05:18 |
| hakuna | yo guys | 05:18 |
| mhz | hey | 05:18 |
| hakuna | greetz | 05:18 |
| mhz | welcome | 05:18 |
| hakuna | thx | 05:19 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, I cannot see them | 05:19 |
| mhz | hmmm, weired | 05:19 |
| Lord_Athur | write the comments in my wiki page | 05:19 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 05:19 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: sure you have no other windows open but 'tabs' instead? | 05:19 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: i'll re open a query | 05:20 |
| Lord_Athur | I've got in other tab connection with the CL server | 05:20 |
| mhz | did you get the query? | 05:20 |
| Lord_Athur | no | 05:20 |
| Lord_Athur | 05:21 | |
| Lord_Athur | q lata | 05:21 |
| mhz | he | 05:21 |
| Lord_Athur | do I close the tab | 05:21 |
| Lord_Athur | ? | 05:21 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: what irc server do you use? irc.freenode.neT? | 05:21 |
| mhz | yup | 05:21 |
| Lord_Athur | mmm | 05:21 |
| mhz | now? | 05:21 |
| Lord_Athur | In the server list the server is called "Ubuntu server" | 05:22 |
| mhz | uh | 05:22 |
| mhz | more strange | 05:22 |
| Lord_Athur | it is the same that I used to talk to you the last friday | 05:22 |
| Lord_Athur | and then we did not have any problems | 05:22 |
| mhz | indeed | 05:22 |
| mhz | well, anyways, | 05:22 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur hice una lista y dej el texto mas abajo por si alguien lo quiere leer | 05:22 |
| mhz | mhz exacto! bien hecho | 05:22 |
| mhz | mhz salvo.... los wikis usan CamelCase que es muy util para estandares de buscar paginas faciles de meorizar | 05:22 |
| mhz | mhz por ende, AlejandroLeon no sera igual a recordar alejandroleonv | 05:22 |
| mhz | mhz y ademas, si alguien edita una pagaina wiki y quiere qu se linkee a la tuya, escribiria blablablabls AlejandroLeon | 05:23 |
| mhz | mhz y asi, al guardar su pagina, se crearia el autolink a la tuya :D | 05:23 |
| === mhz apologyzes to all guys who dont like pasted content :) | ||
| ogra | i dont care about pasted content ~5 lines if i can read it :p | 05:23 |
| Lord_Athur | I will see this details now | 05:23 |
| Lord_Athur | do I change the wiki page name? | 05:24 |
| mhz | ogra: thx for your always good understanding ;) | 05:24 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: you could 'rename it' with 'MoreActions' | 05:24 |
| Lord_Athur | ap ok | 05:24 |
| Lord_Athur | can I write its name with capital letter? | 05:25 |
| Lord_Athur | the A & L | 05:25 |
| mhz | my suggestion is: AlejandroLeon | 05:25 |
| mhz | that is what we call CamelCase | 05:26 |
| Lord_Athur | I've just downloaded the PDF version of the book | 05:26 |
| mhz | o LetraCamello | 05:26 |
| Lord_Athur | ni idea | 05:26 |
| mhz | ogra: I'd be happy to help with HowToThinkLikeAComputerScientist, Learning with Python from Ubuntu :D | 05:27 |
| mhz | ogra: i will create the StudyPackages Group in LP. Do i need to be 'listed in memeber list'? | 05:27 |
| ogra | nope, you only need a LP account afaik | 05:28 |
| mhz | cool | 05:28 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, look the new name of the wiki page | 05:28 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: cool | 05:29 |
| Lord_Athur | >:P | 05:29 |
| Lord_Athur | hey | 05:29 |
| mhz | thx for the effort | 05:29 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, my mail account is alejandroleonvega@gmail.com | 05:29 |
| Lord_Athur | si se van a juntar como comunidad | 05:29 |
| mhz | okis | 05:29 |
| Lord_Athur | me avisas | 05:29 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 05:29 |
| mhz | por supuesto | 05:30 |
| Lord_Athur | I've to put the room in order | 05:30 |
| Lord_Athur | bye everyone | 05:30 |
| mhz | de hecho, te estare ingresando como mimebro de la ML en castellano, once jdub can create it | 05:30 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: c ya later | 05:30 |
| Lord_Athur | 05:31 | |
| Lord_Athur | puedes decir en espaol las ltimas 2 lineas? | 05:31 |
| Lord_Athur | no cache nada | 05:31 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 05:31 |
| mhz | ML = mailing list | 05:31 |
| Lord_Athur | jajja | 05:31 |
| Lord_Athur | jejeje ok | 05:32 |
| Lord_Athur | chau | 05:32 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi everyone | 06:19 |
| Lord_Athur | I've got a problem | 06:19 |
| Lord_Athur | i deleted any files and folders | 06:20 |
| Lord_Athur | abut I cannot delete this from the Trash | 06:20 |
| Lord_Athur | 06:22 | |
| Lord_Athur | is there anybody? | 06:22 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: me | 06:24 |
| mhz_lunch | can you rephrase your prob? | 06:24 |
| Lord_Athur | I downloaded any source of firefox and gaim | 06:25 |
| Lord_Athur | when I deleted these files and folders | 06:25 |
| Lord_Athur | there were not any problems but | 06:26 |
| Lord_Athur | when I tried of delete this from the trash | 06:26 |
| Lord_Athur | I could not | 06:26 |
| Lord_Athur | do you understand??? | 06:26 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 06:26 |
| mhz_lunch | ogra: I emailed mako last week about my name not being listed in LP. To me the only big deal here (is not big at all, yet important) is that I included a link to that URL in an article laready sent to a magazine. If i'm not there, then I become a lier :D Could you ping him somewhere else? | 06:27 |
| ogra | only on -devel as you did already .... | 06:27 |
| ogra | he'll anwer as soon as he's around ... | 06:27 |
| ogra | at least he normaly does | 06:28 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: yup, I understand | 06:28 |
| mhz_lunch | ogra: okis | 06:28 |
| Lord_Athur | q hago tonces? | 06:28 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: via command line? podrias? | 06:28 |
| Lord_Athur | nop | 06:28 |
| Lord_Athur | osea (esto lo dir en espaol) | 06:28 |
| Lord_Athur | descargu el cdigo de gaim y firefox, pero no lo pude borrar | 06:29 |
| Lord_Athur | lo borr con un cdigo (Como root) | 06:29 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: pero podrias hacer $ cd .Trash/ | 06:29 |
| mhz_lunch | y hacer rm -rf en * en ese dir? | 06:30 |
| Lord_Athur | pero ahora los archivos en la papelera no pueden ser borrados | 06:30 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 06:30 |
| Lord_Athur | es ese el comando??? | 06:30 |
| Lord_Athur | me dice que no es un directorio | 06:31 |
| Lord_Athur | calmao | 06:31 |
| Lord_Athur | nop | 06:32 |
| Lord_Athur | alejandro@N:~$ cd .trash/ | 06:32 |
| Lord_Athur | bash: cd: .trash/: No existe el fichero o el directorio | 06:32 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: $ ls -la .Trash | 06:32 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: .Trash no .trash | 06:32 |
| Lord_Athur | alejandro@N:~$ cd .Trash/ | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | alejandro@N:~/.Trash$ dir | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | a firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.dsc Projects | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | Artista\ desconocido firefox_1.0.7.orig.tar.gz gaim-1.5.0.orig SPE\ 0.7.5.calejandro | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | carpeta\ sin\ ttulo gaim-1.5.0 gaim_1.5.0.orig.tar.gz usr | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | config.log gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff gaim-devel-1.5.0-0.fc2.i386.rpm workspace | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.diff.gz gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz libgaim-remote.so | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | alejandro@N:~/.Trash$ | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | me aparecieron de distiontos colores | 06:33 |
| mhz_lunch | sip, algunos directorios y otros archivos | 06:33 |
| Lord_Athur | sip | 06:34 |
| Lord_Athur | Cmo los borro? | 06:34 |
| mhz_lunch | ahora, simplemente con un $ rm -rf lo_que_desees | 06:34 |
| Lord_Athur | pero | 06:34 |
| Lord_Athur | pongo el directotio Trash completo o en el cada archivo? | 06:34 |
| Lord_Athur | dame un ejemplo | 06:34 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 06:34 |
| mhz_lunch | okis.. | 06:35 |
| mhz_lunch | rm -rf firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc | 06:35 |
| mhz_lunch | Lord_Athur: despues de escribir rm -rf fire | 06:36 |
| mhz_lunch | puedes presionar TAB TAB y te autocompletara cn opciones | 06:36 |
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| Lord_Athur | mhz_school, | 06:40 |
| Lord_Athur | no puedo borrarlos todos | 06:40 |
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| mhz_school | Lord_Athur: $ ls -la * | 06:40 |
| Lord_Athur | a? | 06:40 |
| Lord_Athur | root@N:~/.Trash# ls -la | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | total 6340 | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | drwx------ 2 alejandro alejandro 4096 2005-11-28 14:39 . | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | drwxr-xr-x 39 alejandro alejandro 4096 2005-11-28 14:15 .. | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | -rw-r--r-- 1 alejandro alejandro 187558 2005-11-27 14:59 gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35182 2005-09-29 05:55 gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 988 2005-09-29 05:55 gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.dsc | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6117488 2005-08-24 08:50 gaim_1.5.0.orig.tar.gz | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | -rw-r--r-- 1 alejandro alejandro 113765 2005-11-27 14:42 gaim-devel-1.5.0-0.fc2.i386.rpm | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | pero ya estoy como root | 06:41 |
| Lord_Athur | estan siendo usados????? | 06:42 |
| Lord_Athur | kill? | 06:43 |
| Lord_Athur | que hago mhz_school ? | 06:43 |
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| Lord_Athur | Is there other Spanish user here? | 06:46 |
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| Lord_Athur | mhz_school, | 06:52 |
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| mhz | ogra: COOL! you were ahead! http://umeet.uninet.edu/ | 07:13 |
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| mhz | ogra: COOL! you were ahead! http://umeet.uninet.edu/ | 07:14 |
| ogra | whoops | 07:14 |
| ogra | klicked wrongly :) | 07:14 |
| ogra | oh, i'm already listed ? | 07:14 |
| mhz | yup | 07:15 |
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| ogra | JaneW, seen http://umeet.uninet.edu/umeet2005/english/prog.html ? | 07:17 |
| mhz | ogra: I am appliying for a talk, too. | 07:19 |
| ogra | great | 07:19 |
| mhz | ogra: can I know what you would do yours about? | 07:19 |
| mhz | so i d not repeat stuff | 07:19 |
| ogra | edubuntu | 07:20 |
| mhz | LOL | 07:20 |
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| mhz | ogra: i already read that part. your talk: "about edubuntu" Do you have something I ckeck so i do not repeat stuff. Mine also covers some aspects of edubuntu, indeed. But is oriented to social areas more than ITC | 07:23 |
| mhz | ict | 07:23 |
| ogra | i have no talk yet, but i agreed to talk about all aspects of edubuntu | 07:23 |
| ogra | i'll write a german talk before the weekend (i speak at linuxtag in essen on saturday evening), i was planning to just translate that one ... | 07:24 |
| mhz | oh, ok, thx | 07:25 |
| ogra | i'll make it public once its there ... | 07:25 |
| Belutz | talking about talk | 07:26 |
| Belutz | i'm going to give a talk about edubuntu | 07:26 |
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| Belutz | but i'm still confuse what should i present | 07:26 |
| ^eniac^ | hi all! | 07:26 |
| mhz | Belutz: what's on your mind? | 07:26 |
| Belutz | mhz, the goodness of edubuntu for education for the young human beings | 07:27 |
| mhz | so what's your doubt? | 07:27 |
| Belutz | mhz, it's my first time to give a talk | 07:28 |
| Belutz | mhz, and it's a debian conference | 07:28 |
| ogra | make a introduction about ubuntu, what it means etc... and then point out the differences that make edubuntu ... | 07:28 |
| Belutz | ogra, there will be 2 sessions, first about ubuntu and second is edubuntu | 07:29 |
| ogra | and dont forget to mention that its debian derived ;) | 07:29 |
| Belutz | ogra, of course :) | 07:29 |
| ogra | so drop the first part :) | 07:29 |
| Belutz | ogra, can't drop the first part | 07:29 |
| ogra | from the edubuntu talk i mean | 07:30 |
| Belutz | oh i see | 07:30 |
| Belutz | ogra, what's the benefits of edubuntu compare to skolelinux? | 07:30 |
| ogra | none ... | 07:30 |
| ogra | rather compare to k12ltsp | 07:30 |
| Belutz | the question and answer sessions scares me :( | 07:31 |
| mhz | Belutz: when will this be? | 07:31 |
| ogra | skolelinux targets the enterprise/municipality ... | 07:31 |
| Belutz | mhz, desember 3rd, in University of Indonesia. RMS will be the guest speaker via teleconference | 07:31 |
| Belutz | ogra, i see | 07:31 |
| ogra | we only provide an option for k12ltsp users yet ... it will take some time until we can provide something to skole users | 07:31 |
| mhz | Belutz: then please do mention Gnu/Linux :D | 07:32 |
| ogra | at least 1-3 releases | 07:32 |
| Belutz | mhz, of course :D | 07:32 |
| ogra | please dont | 07:32 |
| mhz | ? | 07:32 |
| Belutz | why? | 07:32 |
| ogra | not at a debian conference ... | 07:32 |
| Belutz | hmm, ok | 07:32 |
| ogra | because you will be dragged into political discussions if you start this | 07:32 |
| ogra | be careful with the political stuff ... | 07:33 |
| ogra | we are not bound to gnu with edubuntu ... | 07:33 |
| ogra | there could also be a edubuntu with bds or solaris kernel | 07:33 |
| ogra | *bsd | 07:33 |
| Belutz | ogra, why edubuntu use gnome instead of kde? | 07:33 |
| Belutz | *by default | 07:34 |
| Belutz | or there will be kedubuntu? :p | 07:34 |
| ogra | because i'm all alone with development and can make use of the strength of the ubuntu team for gnome | 07:34 |
| ogra | nope, kedubuntu isnt planned ... that would have to be a community driven project | 07:34 |
| Belutz | ogra, i see, so that's ok to give them a reason like that? | 07:34 |
| ogra | +abut its trivial to install kubuntu-desktop on edubuntu | 07:35 |
| ogra | s/+abut/but | 07:35 |
| ogra | additionally i dont have any clue about KDE :) | 07:35 |
| mhz | hehehe | 07:35 |
| Belutz | hehehe | 07:35 |
| mhz | if RMS is there... sure you'll get some political discussion :) | 07:36 |
| ogra | and kubuntu is also mainly developed by only one person... so i couldnt grab ressources there | 07:36 |
| Belutz | mhz, i will try to avoid it | 07:36 |
| mhz | wise | 07:36 |
| Belutz | i'll ask a lot more to you later ogra :) | 07:39 |
| ogra | thats fine ... will repare me for my talks ;) | 07:40 |
| ogra | *prepare | 07:40 |
| Belutz | :) | 07:40 |
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| mhz | Belutz: and if you can wiki your talk, educooler | 07:43 |
| Belutz | mhz, i will, i'll upload the slides | 07:44 |
| mhz | thx | 07:44 |
| Belutz | :) | 07:44 |
| mhz | ogra: juliux: not traced text for SVG files uploaded | 07:59 |
| mhz | juliux: those are CD versions | 07:59 |
| mhz | for x86 | 07:59 |
| ogra | nice | 07:59 |
| mhz | ogra: we kept x86 version based on what you think | 07:59 |
| ogra | fine ... | 07:59 |
| ogra | i'm not strictly against changing it, but if you change any texts, please discuss it on the mailing list first ... | 08:00 |
| mhz | juliux: as soon as I can finish edubuntu invitations (for school talk/demo), I'll work on the diff AMD and PPC, plus one DVD version | 08:00 |
| mhz | ogra: i know. but so far, we needed to kill that 'to do' and as those texts are now 100% editable... anyonce can do it :) | 08:01 |
| ogra | ok | 08:01 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 08:11 |
| juliux | mhz, thanks a lot | 08:15 |
| mhz | yw, juliux | 08:15 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: regrese | 08:15 |
| juliux | at first hi mhz | 08:15 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: sorry I had to leave | 08:15 |
| mhz | juliux: yup, hi, :D | 08:16 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, | 08:16 |
| Lord_Athur | do not worry | 08:16 |
| Lord_Athur | I delete everything in the trash | 08:16 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 08:16 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: some of your files were not possible to be deleted by you | 08:16 |
| mhz | because they were root's | 08:17 |
| mhz | to rm -rf root permision files, you need to do: | 08:17 |
| mhz | a) sudo rm -rf the_files | 08:17 |
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| Lord_Athur | or enter as root | 08:17 |
| Lord_Athur | :p | 08:17 |
| Lord_Athur | thanks mhz | 08:17 |
| mhz | yup | 08:17 |
| mhz | ok | 08:17 |
| mhz | you knew that? | 08:17 |
| Lord_Athur | + o - | 08:17 |
| mhz | ahh? | 08:18 |
| mhz | ok | 08:18 |
| Lord_Athur | mas o menos | 08:18 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 08:18 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, | 08:19 |
| Lord_Athur | I've put in the wiki page the things that I think, and maybe someone will read it, but | 08:19 |
| Lord_Athur | How can I express my "opini"? | 08:19 |
| Lord_Athur | digo opinin | 08:20 |
| Lord_Athur | :p | 08:20 |
| mhz | en que sentido? | 08:20 |
| Lord_Athur | osea | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | yo quiero aportar ideas | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | decir cosas | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | y todo | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | mientras aprendo a programar | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | Cmo lo hago=? | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | como me meto a la comunidad | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | ? | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | Qu tengo q hacer para llegar a decidir cosas? | 08:21 |
| mhz | ejemplo, por fa. | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | etc | 08:21 |
| Lord_Athur | mira | 08:22 |
| Lord_Athur | tengo un PC como el pik.. | 08:22 |
| Lord_Athur | y con GNOMe no me funciona bn | 08:22 |
| Lord_Athur | me gasta mucho recurso | 08:22 |
| Lord_Athur | y creo q todos los estudiantes deben tener (si tienen PCs) "no buenos" | 08:22 |
| Lord_Athur | y por ende Edubuntu no sirve | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | osea | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | no me sirve | 08:23 |
| mhz | ah, para eso estan las listas | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | Cmo le digo a alguien que cambien algunos programas como OPENOFFICE.org por otros? | 08:23 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: talk to ogra | 08:23 |
| mhz | in IRC | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | o que usen Xfce (es super choro) | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | oki | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | but | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | who is ogra? | 08:23 |
| mhz | what I do is I do not install edubuntu (all) | 08:24 |
| mhz | I install 'server', then I apt-get install edubuntu-server | 08:24 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:25 |
| Lord_Athur | but who is ogra? | 08:25 |
| ogra | ? | 08:25 |
| Lord_Athur | is he spanish? | 08:25 |
| ogra | nope | 08:25 |
| Lord_Athur | is part of the edubuntu comunity? | 08:25 |
| Lord_Athur | or | 08:25 |
| Lord_Athur | only a developer? | 08:25 |
| ogra | only a developer | 08:26 |
| ogra | *g* | 08:26 |
| Lord_Athur | *g*?? | 08:26 |
| ogra | *grin* | 08:26 |
| Lord_Athur | a qued clarito | 08:26 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 08:26 |
| Lord_Athur | ok ogra | 08:26 |
| ogra | i built edubuntu .... | 08:26 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: ogra is Mr.Edubuntu | 08:26 |
| Lord_Athur | ap ok | 08:26 |
| Lord_Athur | bakn | 08:27 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 08:27 |
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| Lord_Athur | then ogra how can I give to the edubuntu team the thing that I think? | 08:28 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, | 08:28 |
| Lord_Athur | el wn no me va a enternder | 08:28 |
| Lord_Athur | digo entender | 08:28 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: he will | 08:28 |
| Belutz | ogra, do you have the .odp file of the edubuntu_talk.pdf you gave me before? | 08:28 |
| ogra | nope | 08:28 |
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| Lord_Athur | xD | 08:28 |
| ogra | Belutz, sadly my openoffice is totally broken ... | 08:28 |
| Belutz | ogra, ok :) | 08:28 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: this channel is to discuss how we want edubuntu to be | 08:29 |
| ogra | he only thing i could save was the pfd between two breakages | 08:29 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:29 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: so whatever your ideas are, give them here | 08:29 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:29 |
| Belutz | wow it's 2.30 am | 08:29 |
| ogra | or on the edubuntu mailing list | 08:29 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: or to the ML | 08:29 |
| Lord_Athur | what is it? | 08:29 |
| ogra | it has a wider audience | 08:29 |
| Lord_Athur | give me the web page to add my mail to the mailing list | 08:30 |
| ogra | http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | 08:30 |
| Lord_Athur | thanks | 08:30 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: subscribe toedubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 08:30 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: subscribe to edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 08:30 |
| Lord_Athur | from...? | 08:30 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: from? | 08:30 |
| ogra | just use the webpage | 08:30 |
| Lord_Athur | ok ogra | 08:31 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: however, even when I understand your conerns about GNOME for Chilean educational PCs, it is GNOME because ogra is the one working on building this. | 08:32 |
| ogra | not really | 08:32 |
| ogra | we had a summit where gnome was decided ... | 08:32 |
| Lord_Athur | who decided it? | 08:32 |
| mhz | maybe if he could have more help from devel guys (probably you) we would have more options | 08:32 |
| ogra | the ~30 people at the summit | 08:33 |
| Lord_Athur | who can they decide? | 08:33 |
| mhz | ogra: I know about the summit. I almost cut a leg to be there :D | 08:33 |
| ogra | we had a lot teachers and school admins as well as people from other edu distros there | 08:33 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:33 |
| Lord_Athur | what may I do for to be a member? | 08:33 |
| ogra | we'll have another one for dapper+1 | 08:33 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: as I know we have a very Latinamerican diff, we could work on a community project to develop a light edubuntu | 08:34 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, q es dapper+1? | 08:34 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 08:34 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz, I think I'd be the best | 08:34 |
| ogra | since this release wont change much (we have to support it for 5 years, so only polishing is allowed) we didnt think it would make sense to have another one for dapper | 08:34 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: however, lighter desktop is not difficult if you just do not install GNOME and choose windowmaker or other desktop | 08:34 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: you 'are a member' when you participate | 08:35 |
| mhz | in IRC and ML | 08:35 |
| Lord_Athur | to build or own distro for education (one for latinamerican education) is a good idea | 08:35 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:35 |
| mhz | yup, but not a good idea to disperse efforts | 08:35 |
| mhz | so, I propose to you we help here, | 08:36 |
| Lord_Athur | for that I want to give ideas for edubuntu | 08:36 |
| mhz | we motivate more people needing lighter desktop integration with edubuntu | 08:36 |
| mhz | and we help ogra integrate our contribution to his | 08:37 |
| Lord_Athur | ogra, how much time does the ML page need to send a mail to the mail? | 08:37 |
| Lord_Athur | I've registered my mail | 08:37 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: just few seconds | 08:37 |
| mhz | maybe q minute | 08:37 |
| ogra | it sends a confirmation mail to you immediately | 08:37 |
| Lord_Athur | but I have not recived anything | 08:37 |
| mhz | you will | 08:37 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:37 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: which @mail? | 08:37 |
| Lord_Athur | gmail | 08:38 |
| mhz | gmail i guess? | 08:38 |
| Lord_Athur | guess? | 08:38 |
| mhz | not the egyptian thing? | 08:38 |
| Lord_Athur | q es eso en espaol? | 08:38 |
| mhz | usaste gmail, creo? | 08:38 |
| Lord_Athur | si | 08:38 |
| Lord_Athur | pero | 08:38 |
| Lord_Athur | no me llega la confirmacin | 08:38 |
| mhz | hmmm | 08:38 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: I am trying to reach jdub, a guy who could provide us with a ML in spanish | 08:39 |
| Lord_Athur | maybe | 08:39 |
| Lord_Athur | gmail saved it in other folder | 08:39 |
| mhz | so far, I have not contacted him successfully | 08:39 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:39 |
| Lord_Athur | I'd be better | 08:39 |
| mhz | sip! | 08:39 |
| ogra | mhz, he has no online connection yet, he just moved house | 08:39 |
| ogra | try to mail him | 08:40 |
| mhz | I know many teachrs and students I have talked about edubuntu do not want to collaborate because they are afraid of english | 08:40 |
| mhz | ogra: duh! | 08:40 |
| mhz | yes, I remember | 08:40 |
| mhz | now | 08:40 |
| mhz | you mentioned that to me last week | 08:40 |
| Lord_Athur | afraid? | 08:40 |
| Lord_Athur | q es eso? | 08:40 |
| === mhz has so many thing in head he forgets | ||
| mhz | Lord_Athur: afraid= temerosos | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | yo soy afraid para el ingls | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | pq soy malo en eso | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | saq 5.4 | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | final anual | 08:41 |
| Lord_Athur | :S | 08:41 |
| mhz | ogra: sorry to forget stuff | 08:41 |
| ogra | dont worry, happens to everybody ;) | 08:42 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: your english is not bad | 08:42 |
| Lord_Athur | 08:42 | |
| ogra | absolutely not | 08:42 |
| Lord_Athur | my theacher does not think so | 08:42 |
| Lord_Athur | well | 08:42 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: the most important thing is you're making an effort | 08:42 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 08:42 |
| ogra | its good enough that i can understand it as a german ... | 08:42 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 08:42 |
| mhz | teachers tend to evaluate other stuff over the real effort to 'communicate'. I can speak english or any language with "hands" and "drawings". | 08:43 |
| mhz | that needs to be evaluated as well | 08:43 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: plus, you are still in school, so wait a couple of months helping here and you'll feel your english is much better | 08:44 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 08:44 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 08:44 |
| Lord_Athur | and I love her | 08:44 |
| Lord_Athur | I did not need to say that | 08:45 |
| Lord_Athur | jajjaa | 08:45 |
| Lord_Athur | ogra, | 08:45 |
| mhz | if not, ask juliux (he's german too) and he used to complain his english sucked (i didnt think so). Now his english seems to be lot betta, right ogra? | 08:45 |
| ogra | yup | 08:45 |
| mhz | :D | 08:45 |
| ogra | noticeable | 08:45 |
| juliux | mhz, now you can understand what i mean | 08:45 |
| mhz | LOL | 08:45 |
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| lucasvo | this keyboardlayout is crap, it doesn't work :( | 08:45 |
| Lord_Athur | I haven't recived my notification of the ML yet! | 08:45 |
| mhz | juliux: not really! but your grammar is excellent! :D | 08:46 |
| === mhz just kidding | ||
| juliux | mhz, what should i say now? | 08:46 |
| mhz | that you are happy to be here trying to understand Chilean sense of humour! | 08:46 |
| ogra | Lord_Athur, i havent seen your subscription notification either yet ... (i get a copy if people subscribe) | 08:46 |
| mhz | ooops | 08:47 |
| Lord_Athur | ogra, what does this mean? | 08:47 |
| ogra | just wait a moment... probably the listservers are just busy | 08:47 |
| mhz | juliux: i hope you have sense of humour. One of the german guys I used to IRC a lot was xorAxAx (#moin channel). his houmour was excellent! | 08:47 |
| Lord_Athur | maybe | 08:47 |
| Lord_Athur | :S | 08:47 |
| Lord_Athur | I've to go | 08:48 |
| juliux | mhz, sure i understand it | 08:48 |
| Lord_Athur | :S | 08:48 |
| Lord_Athur | bye | 08:48 |
| mhz | Lord_Athur: c ya | 08:48 |
| ogra | bye | 08:48 |
| mhz | juliux: cool | 08:48 |
| Lord_Athur | :) | 08:48 |
| juliux | mhz, atm i have do some work here | 08:48 |
| mhz | okis | 08:49 |
| mhz | np | 08:49 |
| juliux | mhz, so i cann't chat very much | 08:49 |
| mhz | i see | 08:50 |
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| mhz | actually, I shouldn't be chatting either but i am too irresponsible | 08:50 |
| === mhz back to SVG working on invitations | ||
| === mhz is now known as mhz_design | ||
| mhz_design | ogra: should we encourage people not to design thise or we are ok. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21314645/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18687643/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21548673/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21808983/ | 08:55 |
| ogra | i'm not sure if half naked girls are really what we want :) | 08:56 |
| mhz_design | i mean, from our Coduct of Conduct, we should try to help others not to. | 08:56 |
| mhz_design | :) | 08:56 |
| mhz_design | ogra: you mean either clothes off or dont design them? | 08:56 |
| ogra | thats nothing for edubuntu | 08:57 |
| ogra | and ubuntu already had its flamewars about naked people | 08:57 |
| mhz_design | ok | 08:57 |
| mhz_design | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18840276/ is that germany? | 08:58 |
| ogra | why do you think its called CCCP then ? | 08:58 |
| mhz_design | duh! | 08:58 |
| ogra | :) | 08:59 |
| mhz_design | hadn't read it, just looked at it | 08:59 |
| mhz_design | :) | 08:59 |
| ajmitch_ | morning | 09:11 |
| mhz_design | Belutz: check this for your talk http://www.deviantart.com/view/18841400/ | 09:16 |
| mhz_design | ajmitch_: morning | 09:16 |
| Belutz | mhz_design, thanks :) | 09:17 |
| mhz_design | you should have accpetance by debian people when they see that | 09:17 |
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| ^eniac^ | hi all! | 09:25 |
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| ^eniac^ | Spacey, can i use the "apt-get source" command for "deb" packets? | 09:27 |
| ^eniac^ | eniac@eniac-linux:~> apt-get source /windows/D/eniac/projects/edubg/alevt/alevt 1.6.1+kanotix3.diff.gz | 09:30 |
| ^eniac^ | Reading Package Lists... Done | 09:30 |
| ^eniac^ | Building Dependency Tree... Done | 09:30 |
| ^eniac^ | E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list | 09:30 |
| ^eniac^ | why? | 09:30 |
| ^eniac^ | the same error is for the deb packets... | 09:31 |
| mhz_design | ogra: I am starting a mail to jdub about ML | 09:32 |
| ogra | ok | 09:32 |
| mhz_design | ogra: I am bit lost.. | 09:32 |
| ogra | why ? just request a list ... | 09:32 |
| mhz_design | ogra: should I request for a edubuntu-cl or edubuntu-la or edubuntu-es? | 09:33 |
| ogra | jdub is a nice guy, dont be worried | 09:33 |
| mhz_design | or we could have all linked together? | 09:33 |
| ogra | i think either -es or -cl | 09:33 |
| ogra | i think -es makes most sense, it covers all spanish speaking people | 09:33 |
| mhz_design | yup | 09:33 |
| mhz_design | so, es will be. | 09:33 |
| ogra | ^eniac^, you need to tell apt where the source packages are ... a deb is not a source package, its a binary | 09:34 |
| ^eniac^ | oooooooooooo | 09:35 |
| ^eniac^ | :-) | 09:35 |
| ogra | a source package is made of 3 parts ... | 09:35 |
| ogra | a .dsc file, a diff.gz file and a orig.tar.gz file | 09:35 |
| ^eniac^ | I am LAMER with mostly L! | 09:35 |
| ogra | the orig.tar.gz file contains the source as you would download it from for example sourceforge ... | 09:36 |
| ^eniac^ | ok | 09:36 |
| ogra | the diff.gz file contains the packaging info to make a deb out of the soure | 09:36 |
| ^eniac^ | I have and other packets... | 09:36 |
| ^eniac^ | I am LAMER with mostly L! | 09:37 |
| ogra | and the dsc file contains the info which orig.tar.gz and dsc files belong together to build adeb | 09:37 |
| ogra | *a deb | 09:37 |
| ogra | look at http://packages.ubuntu.com ,search for any package, scroll down to the bottom if you are at the package page ... there you'll find these 3 files | 09:38 |
| ogra | ^eniac^, see the bottom of this page for example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/alevt | 09:39 |
| ^eniac^ | i have other resource, but w will download also from this... | 09:39 |
| ogra | especially the line starting: "Source Package: alevt, Download:" | 09:39 |
| ^eniac^ | http://kanotix.com/files/debian/ | 09:39 |
| ogra | you cant use this with apt ... | 09:41 |
| ^eniac^ | why? | 09:41 |
| ^eniac^ | i am beginner, sorry... | 09:41 |
| ^eniac^ | I am stupid... | 09:41 |
| ogra | because apt works with repository, the above is not a repository | 09:41 |
| ogra | for apt you need to uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:42 |
| ogra | then just do: apt-get source alevt | 09:43 |
| ogra | it will download and unpack the source package for you in the current dir ... | 09:43 |
| ogra | then you just can do: cd alevt-1.6.1 and work on the source | 09:44 |
| ogra | oh, and after changing the sources.list file you need to run: sudo apt-get update, so apt knows you changed something | 09:45 |
| ^eniac^ | 10x | 09:45 |
| ogra | if you want to work manually with the three files i explained above (without using apt) , install the package dpkg-dev, then you can download the three files and run: dpkg-source -x alevt_1.6.1-7.dsc in the dir the files are ... it will unpack it for you and you can again do cd alevt-1.6.1 | 09:48 |
| ^eniac^ | i wand to make one distro | 09:49 |
| ^eniac^ | but I am beginner... | 09:49 |
| ogra | a whole distro ? | 09:49 |
| ^eniac^ | no, with graphic interface and education programs | 09:50 |
| ^eniac^ | education distribution for bulgarian stufents and schools... | 09:50 |
| ogra | so you just want to change the selection of software ? | 09:51 |
| ^eniac^ | yes, and i also want to translate the software... | 09:52 |
| ogra | did you conside to just tweak ubuntu/edubuntu to your needs ? | 09:55 |
| ogra | rosetta offers a nice interface for translators .... | 09:58 |
| ogra | and tweaking a ubuntu/edubuntu CD is very easy | 09:58 |
| mhz_design | ^eniac^: what features would that distro have? | 09:59 |
| ogra | ^eniac^, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo | 10:00 |
| ^eniac^ | I don't have pereferendces: ubuntu/edubuntu/debian ot knoppix | 10:00 |
| ogra | use this customization howto above and just submit your translations for the packages you want in your distro | 10:03 |
| ogra | thats way easier than learning how to make a complete distro on your own | 10:03 |
| ogra | ^eniac^, https://launchpad.net/rosetta | 10:04 |
| ^eniac^ | 10x for the link! | 10:04 |
| ^eniac^ | for the links | 10:05 |
| ogra | :) | 10:05 |
| mhz_design | .oO(ogra is Mr. Edubuntu 10x) | 10:06 |
| ^eniac^ | Yes | 10:06 |
| mhz_design | ogra: you'll need a wider biz card | 10:07 |
| mhz_design | or your last names will not fit | 10:07 |
| mhz_design | :D | 10:07 |
| ogra | but not even me would be able to build a whole distro on my own ... :) | 10:07 |
| mhz_design | .oO(ogra is Mr. Edubuntu 9x) | 10:07 |
| mhz_design | hehehe | 10:07 |
| ^eniac^ | ehehhe | 10:07 |
| ogra | *g* | 10:07 |
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| Lord_Athur | Hi | 11:19 |
| Lord_Athur | ogra | 11:20 |
| Lord_Athur | hello | 11:20 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: i | 11:22 |
| Lord_Athur | hey | 11:22 |
| Lord_Athur | is free to get a canonical mail account? | 11:23 |
| Lord_Athur | I'd like to have one | 11:24 |
| Lord_Athur | jajjaa | 11:24 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 11:24 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: me too :D | 11:24 |
| mhz_design | I guess/suppose you have to show contribution to ubuntu | 11:24 |
| mhz_design | and that means more than "willing to contribute" but "contributing in real" | 11:25 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 11:25 |
| Lord_Athur | you are right | 11:25 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz_design, si me equivoco en alguna cosa de ingls, me dices porfa | 11:26 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 11:26 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz_design, tell me | 11:26 |
| mhz_design | np | 11:27 |
| Lord_Athur | tell me your plain | 11:27 |
| mhz_design | plain? | 11:28 |
| Lord_Athur | well | 11:28 |
| Lord_Athur | you asked to me | 11:28 |
| Lord_Athur | about what I want to do | 11:29 |
| Lord_Athur | I've supposed you'd tell me something | 11:29 |
| Lord_Athur | any project to participate | 11:29 |
| Lord_Athur | or anything similar | 11:30 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: in a few minutes, I hope you can join EdubuntuChile team in launchpad or EdubuntuStudyContent | 11:30 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: but dont do it now because i'm having some problems | 11:30 |
| mhz_design | with launchpad group creation | 11:31 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 11:31 |
| Lord_Athur | thanks | 11:31 |
| mhz_design | np | 11:32 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: you could start rviewing the edubuntu pages in the wiki | 11:32 |
| mhz_design | search for all pages starting with Edubuntu.... | 11:33 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 11:33 |
| Lord_Athur | I'm in it | 11:33 |
| mhz_design | basically now, EdubuntuSoftwareList (not gnome forced :D ) needs to know if you can use it spanish | 11:34 |
| mhz_design | ogra: I have created EdubuntuChile and EdubuntuStudyContent in LP, unsuccessfully. Sure I don't need to be approved as member? | 11:35 |
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| Lord_Athur | mhz_design, no entend la ltima linea que me escribistes | 11:37 |
| Lord_Athur | escribiste | 11:37 |
| ogra | mhz_design, sorry, i'm about to go to bed ... https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile looks ok to me | 11:38 |
| mhz_design | EdubuntuSoftwareList necesita 2 cosas: traduccion al castellano y verificar que funcionen en castellano | 11:38 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-study-content too | 11:38 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 11:38 |
| mhz_design | ogra: ok, but I get errors when I am request to confirm that I am the one who wants to create them | 11:39 |
| Lord_Athur | what's the official page of Edubuntusofwarelist? | 11:40 |
| ogra | oh and for EdubuntuSoftwareList, you dont need to list khelpcenter ... | 11:40 |
| ogra | its ony there because the other apps dont work without it | 11:40 |
| mhz_design | ogra: ok | 11:40 |
| Lord_Athur | mhz_design, | 11:41 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: ? por que preguntas? | 11:41 |
| Lord_Athur | me dijiste | 11:41 |
| Lord_Athur | que revisara | 11:41 |
| Lord_Athur | y quisiera empezar por all | 11:41 |
| ogra | kmessedwords was renamed recently and glife had to be dropped because of gtk1 | 11:41 |
| mhz_design | si pero porque preguntas si es oficial? | 11:41 |
| ogra | so it will change a bit for dapper | 11:41 |
| Lord_Athur | no, me refera a la pag | 11:41 |
| mhz_design | ogra: good to know that | 11:41 |
| Lord_Athur | no, me refera a la pag osea al enlace | 11:42 |
| mhz_design | ahhh | 11:42 |
| Lord_Athur | es que ando leyendo las pag de wiki con ttulos de edubuntu | 11:42 |
| Lord_Athur | y estoy aqui | 11:42 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: todos los CamelloCaseCamello se refieren a que estan en el wiki | 11:42 |
| Lord_Athur | que es camellocasecamello? | 11:43 |
| mhz_design | si usas el nombre de la pagina tal cual te la doy y la pones despues de wiki.edubuntu.org/ | 11:43 |
| mhz_design | daras con la pagina | 11:43 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: mala memoria tienes | 11:43 |
| mhz_design | recuerdas cuando hablamos de AlejandroLeon | 11:43 |
| mhz_design | en vez de alejandroleon | 11:44 |
| mhz_design | ?> | 11:44 |
| Lord_Athur | sip | 11:44 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 11:44 |
| Lord_Athur | que distraido fui | 11:44 |
| mhz_design | ok, wiki, lo que usamos en edubuntu y otros sitios, usan PalabraPalabra para definir una URL | 11:45 |
| mhz_design | de este modo, es mucho mas facil acordarse en vez de ~56/%er%^ simbolos y numeros | 11:45 |
| Lord_Athur | entiendo y se todo eso, pero | 11:46 |
| Lord_Athur | an no entiendo que tiene q ver la palabra camellocase... | 11:46 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 11:46 |
| mhz_design | ah, porque imaginate un camello con joroba :D | 11:47 |
| mhz_design | AlejandroLeon | 11:47 |
| mhz_design | MauricioHernandez | 11:47 |
| mhz_design | ArribaAbajo | 11:47 |
| mhz_design | MayuculaMinuscula | 11:47 |
| mhz_design | etc | 11:47 |
| Lord_Athur | jajajajaja | 11:48 |
| Lord_Athur | estoy leyendo los wiki de ttulo eduntu | 11:48 |
| Lord_Athur | :D | 11:48 |
| Lord_Athur | con camellos y todo | 11:48 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 11:48 |
| Lord_Athur | estoy en la lista de software | 11:49 |
| Lord_Athur | pero la pag de EdubuntuChile no existe al parecer | 11:51 |
| mhz_design | ? | 11:54 |
| mhz_design | cual? | 11:54 |
| Lord_Athur | EdubuntuChile | 11:54 |
| mhz_design | cual? | 11:54 |
| mhz_design | url | 11:54 |
| ogra | note that launchpad doesnt use wiki format | 11:54 |
| Lord_Athur | sipo | 11:54 |
| Lord_Athur | camello | 11:54 |
| Lord_Athur | !! | 11:54 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile | 11:54 |
| Lord_Athur | ap | 11:54 |
| mhz_design | ogra: yup, I know | 11:54 |
| Lord_Athur | ok ogra | 11:54 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: como te dije... wiki.edubuntu.org/ ahi pones los camellos :) | 11:55 |
| mhz_design | no en LP | 11:55 |
| ogra | mhz_design, and i see nothing wrong with the team, you obviously own it and will be able to change everything | 11:55 |
| Lord_Athur | sip | 11:55 |
| Lord_Athur | can I login in this page mhz_design ? | 11:56 |
| mhz_design | ogra: okis, i'm in #launchpad now, just in case there are some probs for people trying to join | 11:56 |
| mhz_design | ogra: np, I can handle it, go to bed! :D | 11:56 |
| ogra | night then :) | 11:56 |
| mhz_design | ogra: sleep with eeduangels | 11:56 |
| Lord_Athur | can I login in this page (https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile)mhz_design ? | 11:56 |
| mhz_design | sure, join | 11:57 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile/+join ;) | 11:57 |
| mhz_design | LOL!!! | 11:57 |
| Lord_Athur | xD | 11:57 |
| mhz_design | ogra: can't help helping | 11:57 |
| Lord_Athur | pero no saba se lo habas habilitao po mhz_design, me dijiste q estabas en eso | 11:57 |
| Lord_Athur | 11:57 | |
| ogra | i'm really gone now :) | 11:57 |
| mhz_design | np | 11:58 |
| mhz_design | ogra: don't go :D | 11:58 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: aun estoy en eso | 11:58 |
| Lord_Athur | ap ok | 11:58 |
| Lord_Athur | vale | 11:58 |
| mhz_design | Lord_Athur: no me preguntaste si estaba listo, solo si podias | 11:58 |
| mhz_design | :D | 11:58 |
| Lord_Athur | np | 11:58 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 11:59 |
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