=== sven-tek_ [n=sven-tek@p508E6BAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === KurtKraut [n=ktk@space.sbyte.org] has joined #edubuntu === kelley_ [n=kelley@hlfxns01bbf-142068207218.ns.aliant.net] has joined #edubuntu === veda [n=veda@168.243.218.38] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] hi [12:31] is there any localized version of edubuntu in spanish? [12:32] you can install any language post install ... [12:33] we support all languages ubuntu supports [12:36] great! [12:36] tnx [12:37] if you dont have net access to install the language, try the dvd, it contains all 90 languages :) [12:38] :-P [12:38] I'll try both [12:38] thanks again [12:38] (the CD only contains the english language packs, you need to grab additional langs from the net... not enough space there) [12:38] youre welcome :) === _kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.112.101] has joined #edubuntu === noah [n=noah@computer.cc.columbia.edu] has joined #edubuntu [02:10] neither the front page nor the faq mentions how edubuntu differs from regular ubuntu... seems like a slightly glaring omission... [02:11] "educational software (such as GCompris and the KDE education suite)" -- is that it? === KurtKraut is now known as kurtkraut === Nancy_ [n=nancy@ppp-69-223-50-245.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_inkscape === kurtkraut is now known as KurtKraut === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@hmb-11-2.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === KurtKraut is now known as kurtkraut === ^eniac^ [n=eniac@212.124.89.173] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.97.63] has joined #edubuntu === neoandertal [i=GCSCbQqZ@200.223.211.100] has joined #edubuntu [06:30] any brazilian here? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@toronto-HSE-ppp4229947.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego [n=cafuego@i.am.cafuego.geek.nz] has joined #edubuntu [07:31] mornin'! [07:31] morning [07:31] can anyone tel me how I can tweak screen resolutions for clients? === zakame [n=zak@203.215.86.76] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === pc22 [n=hejj@222.126.13.162] has joined #edubuntu [09:07] shalom davix [09:11] morning guys [09:11] hello [09:11] re: broken packages during installation. and wont fix broken packages. do i have to redownload installer? [09:18] pc22: did you md5sum check your cd image before burning it? [09:18] no [09:19] how do i do it [09:19] it could be that something went wrong with the cd download [09:19] did you download to a windows or a linux machine? [09:19] in linux you just type "md5sum cdimage.iso" [09:19] windows [09:19] in xp? [09:19] i'm not sure how to do it in windows, i think there is information about it on the wiki... [09:19] highvoltage, u using edubuntu? [09:19] i'll see if i can find it. [09:19] yep. [09:20] cool [09:20] actually my iso is edubuntu [09:22] pc22: look at http://wiki.edubuntu.org/Checksum?highlight=%28md5sum%29 [09:23] there's a link on the bottom of the page to winmd5sum, a program that lets you check ISO's under Windows [09:24] i have a homenetwork [09:24] what can edubuntu do for me? for the kids? ;) [09:27] highvoltage, how do i compare? [09:35] sorry, been on phone. [09:35] compare the md5sums? [09:35] in linux i just type "md5sum filename.iso" [09:35] i suppose the windows one will work similar. [10:16] highvoltage its done [10:16] perfect [10:16] now trying to isntall === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.97.63] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === Katsumoto [n=teraflop@bbned225-210-100.dsl.hccnet.nl] has joined #edubuntu [12:09] ogra: hi there. i'm working on some edubuntu documentation for future tuxlab rollout. will the lts.conf file still be fully supported in future versions of ubuntu ltsp? [12:10] sure [12:10] see mdz's changelog, there are a lot more options supported already [12:11] highvoltage, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/ relies on lts.conf ;) [12:11] excellent! [12:11] (or will, once its implemented) [12:12] ogra: is this what you're talking about? [12:12] http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLtsConfParams?action=show&redirect=EdubuntuLtsParams [12:12] or where can i find mdz's changelog? [12:12] nope, that are the breezy config options we support ... [12:13] in his bzr branch, install bzr and bzrk, then do a bzr viz with his url... wait, have to look it up === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-79-66-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [12:15] ogra: don't worry, i have enought to keep me busy with for now :) [12:15] i'll check out bzr again a bit later. [12:15] bzr viz http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/bazaar/ltsp/main/ [12:15] thats the command :) [12:16] omg, i don't have bzr installed yet [12:16] deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./ [12:16] grab it from there [12:17] and bzrk ... thats a neat gui [12:32] ogra: thanks for the packaging help. the Replaces and dpkg-divert magic worked well :) [12:32] great :) [12:33] ogra: the game I was packaging looks *really* good now, with those updates [12:33] great, rhrow it on revu then ;) [12:33] *throw [12:35] ogra: I can't :( I need to dfsg the source for revu, and siretart canned the data packs because upstream won't write a license [12:35] that says anything other then "non-commercial use only" [12:35] bah [12:36] ogra: It's also "not good" to load about 1GB of data packs to revu O:-) [12:36] ugh, 1GB ? [12:37] ogra: That's a lot of textures, models - for Doom, Heretic and Hexen [12:37] ah [12:38] ogra: The screenshots on my page need to be replaced, it looks better now - I'm doing the hexen updates now, and heretic tommorow [12:40] ogra: apparently I've been told in some places eg Germany, that if it isn't explicitly permitted, then it is forbidden [12:40] that is why the data packs where rejected [12:40] yup... [12:41] where it is opposite here, unless explicitly forbidden, it is permitted [12:42] and obviously where upstream for the data packs too (they are mirrored all over the net - but can't be in ubuntu :( ) [12:42] For kicks, I should try to get it running as a local app [12:43] I think the usual convention is redistribution is forbidden unless otherwise allowed [12:44] ajmitch_: Yep, I'm still trying to convince upstream to write a decent license, I don't really want to do a msttcorefonts type package [12:45] the only way stuff can get into multiverse is if we have redistribution, that's not just a special grant to ubuntu [12:46] ajmitch_: Most packs have redistribution that isn't a special grant, but I have to get a forum post for it - it's not in a license [12:46] which doesn't cut it [12:49] ajmitch_: It's a pain in the neck to have to save the forum post, it really should be in a license file. Anyway hows things going ? [12:49] things are going well enough, how are you? [12:50] ajmitch_: I'm very busy, the new baby is taking up lots of time, and my mother-in-law has just been diagnosed with cancer :( [12:50] oh dear :( [12:51] ajmitch_: I'm trying to get 1000 paper cranes folded and posted to her as soon as possible [12:51] ouch, good luck === Orbman [i=grant@85-210-15-53.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:52] ajmitch_: It's supposed to grant her a wish (at least that's the story), so tomorrow I'm off to get more paper [12:53] ajmitch_: It sucks, she's a non-smoker, non-drinker, does everything right, and she still got cancer. === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.93.238] has joined #edubuntu [01:14] ogra: i get: [01:14] W: GPG error: http://people.ubuntu.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B0B7481B1F44842D [01:14] how do i import that key into apt again? [01:14] or should i just disable the gpg checking [01:15] just igrnore it for now ... it will install anyway and jbailey is ubuntu dev, you can trust him :) === ajmitch_ sort of trusts him ;) [01:17] you can download his key from the keyserver and run: sudo apt-key add [01:17] i can't install bzr because of some package problems. my punishment for being on dapper :) [01:17] which problems? [01:17] i'm on dapper too... [01:17] works fine here [01:17] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [01:17] livesupport-libs: Depends: unixodbc but it is not going to be installed [01:17] Depends: unixodbc (>= 2.2) but it is not going to be installed [01:18] ah, totaly unrelated to bzr [01:18] oh. ok. === highvoltage does an apt-get -f install ; apt-get install bzr and see what happens [01:23] ogra: would load balancing or clustering software be of interest to you with edubuntu ? It looks like openmosix has a working 2.6 release now [01:24] not for dapper [01:24] ogra: but in general yes ? (I'll mention dapper for requests/suggestions for dapper) [01:25] we havent decided yet if we will include something along this lines ... at ubz we only talke about load balancing cluster solution... [01:26] but if you can provide a working solution that doesnt contain evil kernel patching .... [01:27] ogra: :( needs "evil" kernel patching [01:27] i suspected this ... [01:27] ogra: but then, the ubuntu kernel looks nothing like vanilla ... [01:27] ask in #ubuntu-kernel how likely it might be that we'll have it in any of our kernel packages [01:28] but we only accept patches that are announced to eventually go upstream afaik [01:28] it might not be vanilla now :) [01:29] ogra: oh, then this will never get accepted. linus and openmosix project lead want to keep them separate [01:33] oh my god, my 21 month old daughter has worked out how to open the 3 locks on the door to my office [01:34] my pc's won't be safe now [01:49] re === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:01] i wish i had more time to play with ubuntu ltsp. [02:01] same here [02:01] ogra: if you put SCREEN_01=shell with ultsp, do you get a local shell on the terminal like with ltsp.org? [02:02] i think it was 07, but yes ... look in the mailing list, mdz once posted someting about it === Yagisan needs a new power supply for more ltsp tinkering === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #edubuntu [02:19] hi [02:28] hi lucasvo === kurtkraut is now known as KurtKraut === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [02:44] ogra: that wiki page said that SWAP_SERVER is implemented but not tested, does that use NBD or NFS? === KurtKraut [n=ktk@space.sbyte.org] has left #edubuntu ["Fui] [02:45] highvoltage, there is no nfs swap in kernel 2.6 [02:46] so it needs to be NBD :) [02:48] aaaah [02:48] that explains why ltsp.org still uses 2.4 kernels. [02:49] highvoltage: what work are you doing with ltsp ? [02:50] Yagisan, he's Mr. tuXlabs [02:51] I see. so will we be seeing some ltsp improvements ? [02:52] highvoltage, ltsp.org uses 2.6 as well in the 4.2 branch [03:01] interesting. i think i'll stick with the ubuntu ltsp from now on though ;) [03:01] except for the ltsp 4.1 that we'll use until we install dapper in all the schools. [03:02] the cool thing is, that gives me a good excuse to work on edubuntu docs in work time :) [03:02] but now i need to go home. [03:03] bye ogra and Yagisan. [03:03] ciao highvoltage === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu [03:31] Yagisan, oh, btw, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/multiarch/ [03:31] lets see if mdz accepts it now... === raoulduke [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] thanks ogra - I was having a very late dinner [03:42] G'day mhz [03:43] hey [03:43] how's your in-laws? [03:43] mhz: My mother in-law has been diagnosed with cancer :( [03:43] ooops :( [03:44] i'm truly sorry [03:44] Yagisan, sorry to hear that [03:44] thanks mhz, neurogeek [03:44] how bad? [03:45] she got the news 2 days before my son was born, and didn't tell us until my wife was out of the hospital [03:45] mhz: I don't know. She has an operation in December [03:46] mhz: I'm making 1000 paper cranes for her and I hope to post them as soon as possible [03:46] hmm, I have no clue what to say or do to help [03:47] mhz: Japanese think that if you make 1000 paper cranes, you can be granted a wish === SatanGolga [i=SatanGol@c-3172e253.38-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #edubuntu [03:48] mhz, can't even fly there to be with here, because of the newborn baby [03:48] s/here/her [03:49] hmm, what the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu, i think they look pretty similar? [03:50] edubuntu is built around LTSP [03:50] SatanGolga: (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu are the same system, but with different default configurations [03:50] it adds most of kdeedu and tux4kids to the desktop [03:50] and has different artwork [03:50] aha, ok [03:51] i use ubuntu atm [03:51] SatanGolga: It's more targeted at an educational setting, but if you have kids, it's also good for home [03:52] heh, ok [03:53] btw, congrats to the baby :) [03:53] SatanGolga, thanks :) === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089FFEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [04:50] night all === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-79-66-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:57] hi [04:57] mhz, [04:57] hi Lord_Athur [04:57] may I tell you something by query? [04:58] sure [04:59] mhz, can you say the name of the book about Python? [04:59] I'd like to buy it === sankarshan is now known as sm|afk [04:59] hmmm, let me look [05:00] ok [05:00] hey [05:00] buy it? not download it? [05:00] download :p [05:00] hey you have not answer the query yet [05:00] ... [05:00] its even packaged and installed by default ;) diveintopython is the name [05:01] ok [05:01] thanks [05:02] mhz, contesta el privado [05:02] :P [05:02] Lord_Athur: How to Think like a Computer Scientist, Learning with Python [05:03] Lord_Athur: no tengo pregunta tuya a mi url? [05:03] en tu wiki [05:03] ogra: hehehe [05:03] mhz en tu wiki? [05:04] Lord_Athur: www.thinkpython.com [05:05] url donde tu pusiste tu summary [05:05] mhz, ok pero me refera al privado que abr por Xchat [05:06] que summary? [05:06] no cacho naa [05:06] xD [05:07] parece que no nos vemos en query [05:07] eso creo [05:07] !! [05:08] how can I talk to "bash" (leo)? [05:08] tienes una url para tu summary? [05:08] la de wiki q te coment no ma [05:08] Lord_Athur: hehehe, ni idea. Podrias mandar un mail a arkan0x, tal vez? [05:09] [05:09] ok [05:09] :) [05:09] estaba "buena" la cabra argentina [05:09] :P [05:09] osea saba arto de distros [05:09] Lord_Athur: se que arkan0x tiene contaxcto regular con bash [05:09] pero no entend cual es su proyecto [05:09] Lord_Athur: indeed [05:09] ap ok [05:10] difusion de FLOSS para multimedios (Vj's and Dj's) [05:10] ap ok [05:10] debe tener su pgina wiki para leerle ms [05:11] te la di? [05:11] si tiene, pero no la he buscado aun [05:11] creo que el colectivo se llama 'troyano' [05:11] ap ok [05:11] y su url deberia incluir .ar [05:11] :d [05:11] oye [05:11] abre una ventana de privado para mostrarte algo porfa [05:12] parece q la tienes deshabilitada [05:14] [05:14] mhz, It'd be better if we talk only in Enlgish [05:14] la otra vez unos gringos se enojaron [05:14] xD === hakuna [n=hakuna@u2-128.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] jajaja [05:17] mhz, did you see my own wiki page? [05:17] Lord_Athur: ok, let's stay tuned in english here [05:17] yup === hakuna [n=hakuna@u2-128.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #edubuntu [05:17] and I already gave you some comments in 'query'. Could you see them? [05:18] hakuna matata? [05:18] :) [05:18] yo guys [05:18] hey [05:18] greetz [05:18] welcome [05:19] thx [05:19] mhz, I cannot see them [05:19] hmmm, weired [05:19] write the comments in my wiki page [05:19] :P [05:19] Lord_Athur: sure you have no other windows open but 'tabs' instead? [05:20] Lord_Athur: i'll re open a query [05:20] I've got in other tab connection with the CL server [05:20] did you get the query? [05:20] no [05:21] [05:21] q lata [05:21] he [05:21] do I close the tab [05:21] ? [05:21] Lord_Athur: what irc server do you use? irc.freenode.neT? [05:21] yup [05:21] mmm [05:21] now? [05:22] In the server list the server is called "Ubuntu server" [05:22] uh [05:22] more strange [05:22] it is the same that I used to talk to you the last friday [05:22] and then we did not have any problems [05:22] indeed [05:22] well, anyways, [05:22] Lord_Athur hice una lista y dej el texto mas abajo por si alguien lo quiere leer [05:22] mhz exacto! bien hecho [05:22] mhz salvo.... los wikis usan CamelCase que es muy util para estandares de buscar paginas faciles de meorizar [05:22] mhz por ende, AlejandroLeon no sera igual a recordar alejandroleonv [05:23] mhz y ademas, si alguien edita una pagaina wiki y quiere qu se linkee a la tuya, escribiria blablablabls AlejandroLeon [05:23] mhz y asi, al guardar su pagina, se crearia el autolink a la tuya :D === mhz apologyzes to all guys who dont like pasted content :) [05:23] i dont care about pasted content ~5 lines if i can read it :p [05:23] I will see this details now [05:24] do I change the wiki page name? [05:24] ogra: thx for your always good understanding ;) [05:24] Lord_Athur: you could 'rename it' with 'MoreActions' [05:24] ap ok [05:25] can I write its name with capital letter? [05:25] the A & L [05:25] my suggestion is: AlejandroLeon [05:26] that is what we call CamelCase [05:26] I've just downloaded the PDF version of the book [05:26] o LetraCamello [05:26] ni idea [05:27] ogra: I'd be happy to help with HowToThinkLikeAComputerScientist, Learning with Python from Ubuntu :D [05:27] ogra: i will create the StudyPackages Group in LP. Do i need to be 'listed in memeber list'? [05:28] nope, you only need a LP account afaik [05:28] cool [05:28] mhz, look the new name of the wiki page [05:29] Lord_Athur: cool [05:29] >:P [05:29] hey [05:29] thx for the effort [05:29] mhz, my mail account is alejandroleonvega@gmail.com [05:29] si se van a juntar como comunidad [05:29] okis [05:29] me avisas [05:29] :P [05:30] por supuesto [05:30] I've to put the room in order [05:30] bye everyone [05:30] de hecho, te estare ingresando como mimebro de la ML en castellano, once jdub can create it [05:30] Lord_Athur: c ya later [05:31] [05:31] puedes decir en espaol las ltimas 2 lineas? [05:31] no cache nada [05:31] xD [05:31] ML = mailing list [05:31] jajja [05:32] jejeje ok [05:32] chau === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_lunch === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === hakuna is now known as hakuna_matata === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === Belutz [n=Belutz@ubuntu/member/belutz] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:19] hi everyone [06:19] I've got a problem [06:20] i deleted any files and folders [06:20] abut I cannot delete this from the Trash [06:22] [06:22] is there anybody? [06:24] Lord_Athur: me [06:24] can you rephrase your prob? [06:25] I downloaded any source of firefox and gaim [06:25] when I deleted these files and folders [06:26] there were not any problems but [06:26] when I tried of delete this from the trash [06:26] I could not [06:26] do you understand??? [06:26] :P [06:27] ogra: I emailed mako last week about my name not being listed in LP. To me the only big deal here (is not big at all, yet important) is that I included a link to that URL in an article laready sent to a magazine. If i'm not there, then I become a lier :D Could you ping him somewhere else? [06:27] only on -devel as you did already .... [06:27] he'll anwer as soon as he's around ... [06:28] at least he normaly does [06:28] Lord_Athur: yup, I understand [06:28] ogra: okis [06:28] q hago tonces? [06:28] Lord_Athur: via command line? podrias? [06:28] nop [06:28] osea (esto lo dir en espaol) [06:29] descargu el cdigo de gaim y firefox, pero no lo pude borrar [06:29] lo borr con un cdigo (Como root) [06:29] Lord_Athur: pero podrias hacer $ cd .Trash/ [06:30] y hacer rm -rf en * en ese dir? [06:30] pero ahora los archivos en la papelera no pueden ser borrados [06:30] ok [06:30] es ese el comando??? [06:31] me dice que no es un directorio [06:31] calmao [06:32] nop [06:32] alejandro@N:~$ cd .trash/ [06:32] bash: cd: .trash/: No existe el fichero o el directorio [06:32] Lord_Athur: $ ls -la .Trash [06:32] Lord_Athur: .Trash no .trash [06:33] alejandro@N:~$ cd .Trash/ [06:33] alejandro@N:~/.Trash$ dir [06:33] a firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.dsc Projects [06:33] Artista\ desconocido firefox_1.0.7.orig.tar.gz gaim-1.5.0.orig SPE\ 0.7.5.calejandro [06:33] carpeta\ sin\ ttulo gaim-1.5.0 gaim_1.5.0.orig.tar.gz usr [06:33] config.log gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff gaim-devel-1.5.0-0.fc2.i386.rpm workspace [06:33] firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.diff.gz gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz libgaim-remote.so [06:33] alejandro@N:~/.Trash$ [06:33] me aparecieron de distiontos colores [06:33] sip, algunos directorios y otros archivos [06:34] sip [06:34] Cmo los borro? [06:34] ahora, simplemente con un $ rm -rf lo_que_desees [06:34] pero [06:34] pongo el directotio Trash completo o en el cada archivo? [06:34] dame un ejemplo [06:34] :P [06:35] okis.. [06:35] rm -rf firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc [06:36] Lord_Athur: despues de escribir rm -rf fire [06:36] puedes presionar TAB TAB y te autocompletara cn opciones === mhz_lunch is taking daughter to school === mhz_lunch is now known as mhz_school === mhz_school BBL [06:40] mhz_school, [06:40] no puedo borrarlos todos === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [06:40] Lord_Athur: $ ls -la * [06:40] a? [06:41] root@N:~/.Trash# ls -la [06:41] total 6340 [06:41] drwx------ 2 alejandro alejandro 4096 2005-11-28 14:39 . [06:41] drwxr-xr-x 39 alejandro alejandro 4096 2005-11-28 14:15 .. [06:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 alejandro alejandro 187558 2005-11-27 14:59 gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff [06:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35182 2005-09-29 05:55 gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz [06:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 988 2005-09-29 05:55 gaim_1.5.0-1ubuntu3.dsc [06:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6117488 2005-08-24 08:50 gaim_1.5.0.orig.tar.gz [06:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 alejandro alejandro 113765 2005-11-27 14:42 gaim-devel-1.5.0-0.fc2.i386.rpm [06:41] pero ya estoy como root [06:42] estan siendo usados????? [06:43] kill? [06:43] que hago mhz_school ? === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [06:46] Is there other Spanish user here? === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [06:52] mhz_school, === davix [n=lama@85-64-144-208.barak-online.net] has joined #edubuntu === davix [n=lama@85-64-144-208.barak-online.net] has left #edubuntu ["i] === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [06:57] === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-187.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [07:08] re === mhz_school is now known as mhz [07:13] ogra: COOL! you were ahead! http://umeet.uninet.edu/ === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has left #edubuntu ["Verlassend"] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [07:14] ogra: COOL! you were ahead! http://umeet.uninet.edu/ [07:14] whoops [07:14] klicked wrongly :) [07:14] oh, i'm already listed ? [07:15] yup === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-174-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [07:17] JaneW, seen http://umeet.uninet.edu/umeet2005/english/prog.html ? [07:19] ogra: I am appliying for a talk, too. [07:19] great [07:19] ogra: can I know what you would do yours about? [07:19] so i d not repeat stuff [07:20] edubuntu [07:20] LOL === mhz *sighs* [07:23] ogra: i already read that part. your talk: "about edubuntu" Do you have something I ckeck so i do not repeat stuff. Mine also covers some aspects of edubuntu, indeed. But is oriented to social areas more than ITC [07:23] ict [07:23] i have no talk yet, but i agreed to talk about all aspects of edubuntu [07:24] i'll write a german talk before the weekend (i speak at linuxtag in essen on saturday evening), i was planning to just translate that one ... [07:25] oh, ok, thx [07:25] i'll make it public once its there ... [07:26] talking about talk [07:26] i'm going to give a talk about edubuntu === ^eniac^ [n=eniac@212.124.89.173] has joined #edubuntu [07:26] but i'm still confuse what should i present [07:26] <^eniac^> hi all! [07:26] Belutz: what's on your mind? [07:27] mhz, the goodness of edubuntu for education for the young human beings [07:27] so what's your doubt? [07:28] mhz, it's my first time to give a talk [07:28] mhz, and it's a debian conference [07:28] make a introduction about ubuntu, what it means etc... and then point out the differences that make edubuntu ... [07:29] ogra, there will be 2 sessions, first about ubuntu and second is edubuntu [07:29] and dont forget to mention that its debian derived ;) [07:29] ogra, of course :) [07:29] so drop the first part :) [07:29] ogra, can't drop the first part [07:30] from the edubuntu talk i mean [07:30] oh i see [07:30] ogra, what's the benefits of edubuntu compare to skolelinux? [07:30] none ... [07:30] rather compare to k12ltsp [07:31] the question and answer sessions scares me :( [07:31] Belutz: when will this be? [07:31] skolelinux targets the enterprise/municipality ... [07:31] mhz, desember 3rd, in University of Indonesia. RMS will be the guest speaker via teleconference [07:31] ogra, i see [07:31] we only provide an option for k12ltsp users yet ... it will take some time until we can provide something to skole users [07:32] Belutz: then please do mention Gnu/Linux :D [07:32] at least 1-3 releases [07:32] mhz, of course :D [07:32] please dont [07:32] ? [07:32] why? [07:32] not at a debian conference ... [07:32] hmm, ok [07:32] because you will be dragged into political discussions if you start this [07:33] be careful with the political stuff ... [07:33] we are not bound to gnu with edubuntu ... [07:33] there could also be a edubuntu with bds or solaris kernel [07:33] *bsd [07:33] ogra, why edubuntu use gnome instead of kde? [07:34] *by default [07:34] or there will be kedubuntu? :p [07:34] because i'm all alone with development and can make use of the strength of the ubuntu team for gnome [07:34] nope, kedubuntu isnt planned ... that would have to be a community driven project [07:34] ogra, i see, so that's ok to give them a reason like that? [07:35] +abut its trivial to install kubuntu-desktop on edubuntu [07:35] s/+abut/but [07:35] additionally i dont have any clue about KDE :) [07:35] hehehe [07:35] hehehe [07:36] if RMS is there... sure you'll get some political discussion :) [07:36] and kubuntu is also mainly developed by only one person... so i couldnt grab ressources there [07:36] mhz, i will try to avoid it [07:36] wise [07:39] i'll ask a lot more to you later ogra :) [07:40] thats fine ... will repare me for my talks ;) [07:40] *prepare [07:40] :) === Nancy_ [n=nancy@ppp-69-223-86-216.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:43] Belutz: and if you can wiki your talk, educooler [07:44] mhz, i will, i'll upload the slides [07:44] thx [07:44] :) [07:59] ogra: juliux: not traced text for SVG files uploaded [07:59] juliux: those are CD versions [07:59] for x86 [07:59] nice [07:59] ogra: we kept x86 version based on what you think [07:59] fine ... [08:00] i'm not strictly against changing it, but if you change any texts, please discuss it on the mailing list first ... [08:00] juliux: as soon as I can finish edubuntu invitations (for school talk/demo), I'll work on the diff AMD and PPC, plus one DVD version [08:01] ogra: i know. but so far, we needed to kill that 'to do' and as those texts are now 100% editable... anyonce can do it :) [08:01] ok === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:11] hi [08:15] mhz, thanks a lot [08:15] yw, juliux [08:15] Lord_Athur: regrese [08:15] at first hi mhz [08:15] Lord_Athur: sorry I had to leave [08:16] juliux: yup, hi, :D [08:16] mhz, [08:16] do not worry [08:16] I delete everything in the trash [08:16] :P [08:16] Lord_Athur: some of your files were not possible to be deleted by you [08:17] because they were root's [08:17] to rm -rf root permision files, you need to do: [08:17] a) sudo rm -rf the_files === b3ar [n=b3ar@151.56.32.68] has joined #edubuntu [08:17] or enter as root [08:17] :p [08:17] thanks mhz [08:17] yup [08:17] ok [08:17] you knew that? [08:17] + o - [08:18] ahh? [08:18] ok [08:18] mas o menos [08:18] xD [08:19] mhz, [08:19] I've put in the wiki page the things that I think, and maybe someone will read it, but [08:19] How can I express my "opini"? [08:20] digo opinin [08:20] :p [08:20] en que sentido? [08:21] osea [08:21] yo quiero aportar ideas [08:21] decir cosas [08:21] y todo [08:21] mientras aprendo a programar [08:21] Cmo lo hago=? [08:21] como me meto a la comunidad [08:21] ? [08:21] Qu tengo q hacer para llegar a decidir cosas? [08:21] ejemplo, por fa. [08:21] etc [08:22] mira [08:22] tengo un PC como el pik.. [08:22] y con GNOMe no me funciona bn [08:22] me gasta mucho recurso [08:22] y creo q todos los estudiantes deben tener (si tienen PCs) "no buenos" [08:23] y por ende Edubuntu no sirve [08:23] osea [08:23] no me sirve [08:23] ah, para eso estan las listas [08:23] Cmo le digo a alguien que cambien algunos programas como OPENOFFICE.org por otros? [08:23] Lord_Athur: talk to ogra [08:23] in IRC [08:23] o que usen Xfce (es super choro) [08:23] oki [08:23] but [08:23] who is ogra? [08:24] what I do is I do not install edubuntu (all) [08:24] I install 'server', then I apt-get install edubuntu-server [08:25] ok [08:25] but who is ogra? [08:25] ? [08:25] is he spanish? [08:25] nope [08:25] is part of the edubuntu comunity? [08:25] or [08:25] only a developer? [08:26] only a developer [08:26] *g* [08:26] *g*?? [08:26] *grin* [08:26] a qued clarito [08:26] xD [08:26] ok ogra [08:26] i built edubuntu .... [08:26] Lord_Athur: ogra is Mr.Edubuntu [08:26] ap ok [08:27] bakn [08:27] :P === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] then ogra how can I give to the edubuntu team the thing that I think? [08:28] mhz, [08:28] el wn no me va a enternder [08:28] digo entender [08:28] Lord_Athur: he will [08:28] ogra, do you have the .odp file of the edubuntu_talk.pdf you gave me before? [08:28] nope === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] xD [08:28] Belutz, sadly my openoffice is totally broken ... [08:28] ogra, ok :) [08:29] Lord_Athur: this channel is to discuss how we want edubuntu to be [08:29] he only thing i could save was the pfd between two breakages [08:29] ok [08:29] Lord_Athur: so whatever your ideas are, give them here [08:29] ok [08:29] wow it's 2.30 am [08:29] or on the edubuntu mailing list [08:29] Lord_Athur: or to the ML [08:29] what is it? [08:29] it has a wider audience [08:30] give me the web page to add my mail to the mailing list [08:30] http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel [08:30] thanks [08:30] Lord_Athur: subscribe toedubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [08:30] Lord_Athur: subscribe to edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [08:30] from...? [08:30] Lord_Athur: from? [08:30] just use the webpage [08:31] ok ogra [08:32] Lord_Athur: however, even when I understand your conerns about GNOME for Chilean educational PCs, it is GNOME because ogra is the one working on building this. [08:32] not really [08:32] we had a summit where gnome was decided ... [08:32] who decided it? [08:32] maybe if he could have more help from devel guys (probably you) we would have more options [08:33] the ~30 people at the summit [08:33] who can they decide? [08:33] ogra: I know about the summit. I almost cut a leg to be there :D [08:33] we had a lot teachers and school admins as well as people from other edu distros there [08:33] ok [08:33] what may I do for to be a member? [08:33] we'll have another one for dapper+1 [08:34] Lord_Athur: as I know we have a very Latinamerican diff, we could work on a community project to develop a light edubuntu [08:34] mhz, q es dapper+1? [08:34] yes [08:34] mhz, I think I'd be the best [08:34] since this release wont change much (we have to support it for 5 years, so only polishing is allowed) we didnt think it would make sense to have another one for dapper [08:34] Lord_Athur: however, lighter desktop is not difficult if you just do not install GNOME and choose windowmaker or other desktop [08:35] Lord_Athur: you 'are a member' when you participate [08:35] in IRC and ML [08:35] to build or own distro for education (one for latinamerican education) is a good idea [08:35] ok [08:35] yup, but not a good idea to disperse efforts [08:36] so, I propose to you we help here, [08:36] for that I want to give ideas for edubuntu [08:36] we motivate more people needing lighter desktop integration with edubuntu [08:37] and we help ogra integrate our contribution to his [08:37] ogra, how much time does the ML page need to send a mail to the mail? [08:37] I've registered my mail [08:37] Lord_Athur: just few seconds [08:37] maybe q minute [08:37] it sends a confirmation mail to you immediately [08:37] but I have not recived anything [08:37] you will [08:37] ok [08:37] Lord_Athur: which @mail? [08:38] gmail [08:38] gmail i guess? [08:38] guess? [08:38] not the egyptian thing? [08:38] q es eso en espaol? [08:38] usaste gmail, creo? [08:38] si [08:38] pero [08:38] no me llega la confirmacin [08:38] hmmm [08:39] Lord_Athur: I am trying to reach jdub, a guy who could provide us with a ML in spanish [08:39] maybe [08:39] gmail saved it in other folder [08:39] so far, I have not contacted him successfully [08:39] ok [08:39] I'd be better [08:39] sip! [08:39] mhz, he has no online connection yet, he just moved house [08:40] try to mail him [08:40] I know many teachrs and students I have talked about edubuntu do not want to collaborate because they are afraid of english [08:40] ogra: duh! [08:40] yes, I remember [08:40] now [08:40] you mentioned that to me last week [08:40] afraid? [08:40] q es eso? === mhz has so many thing in head he forgets [08:41] Lord_Athur: afraid= temerosos [08:41] ok [08:41] yo soy afraid para el ingls [08:41] pq soy malo en eso [08:41] saq 5.4 [08:41] xD [08:41] final anual [08:41] :S [08:41] ogra: sorry to forget stuff [08:42] dont worry, happens to everybody ;) [08:42] Lord_Athur: your english is not bad [08:42] [08:42] absolutely not [08:42] my theacher does not think so [08:42] well [08:42] Lord_Athur: the most important thing is you're making an effort [08:42] yes [08:42] its good enough that i can understand it as a german ... [08:42] :P [08:43] teachers tend to evaluate other stuff over the real effort to 'communicate'. I can speak english or any language with "hands" and "drawings". [08:43] that needs to be evaluated as well [08:44] Lord_Athur: plus, you are still in school, so wait a couple of months helping here and you'll feel your english is much better [08:44] yes [08:44] :P [08:44] and I love her [08:45] I did not need to say that [08:45] jajjaa [08:45] ogra, [08:45] if not, ask juliux (he's german too) and he used to complain his english sucked (i didnt think so). Now his english seems to be lot betta, right ogra? [08:45] yup [08:45] :D [08:45] noticeable [08:45] mhz, now you can understand what i mean [08:45] LOL === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:45] this keyboardlayout is crap, it doesn't work :( [08:45] I haven't recived my notification of the ML yet! [08:46] juliux: not really! but your grammar is excellent! :D === mhz just kidding [08:46] mhz, what should i say now? [08:46] that you are happy to be here trying to understand Chilean sense of humour! [08:46] Lord_Athur, i havent seen your subscription notification either yet ... (i get a copy if people subscribe) [08:47] ooops [08:47] ogra, what does this mean? [08:47] just wait a moment... probably the listservers are just busy [08:47] juliux: i hope you have sense of humour. One of the german guys I used to IRC a lot was xorAxAx (#moin channel). his houmour was excellent! [08:47] maybe [08:47] :S [08:48] I've to go [08:48] mhz, sure i understand it [08:48] :S [08:48] bye [08:48] Lord_Athur: c ya [08:48] bye [08:48] juliux: cool [08:48] :) [08:48] mhz, atm i have do some work here [08:49] okis [08:49] np [08:49] mhz, so i cann't chat very much [08:50] i see === Orbman_ [i=grant@85-210-38-224.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:50] actually, I shouldn't be chatting either but i am too irresponsible === mhz back to SVG working on invitations === mhz is now known as mhz_design [08:55] ogra: should we encourage people not to design thise or we are ok. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21314645/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18687643/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21548673/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21808983/ [08:56] i'm not sure if half naked girls are really what we want :) [08:56] i mean, from our Coduct of Conduct, we should try to help others not to. [08:56] :) [08:56] ogra: you mean either clothes off or dont design them? [08:57] thats nothing for edubuntu [08:57] and ubuntu already had its flamewars about naked people [08:57] ok [08:58] http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18840276/ is that germany? [08:58] why do you think its called CCCP then ? [08:58] duh! [08:59] :) [08:59] hadn't read it, just looked at it [08:59] :) [09:11] morning [09:16] Belutz: check this for your talk http://www.deviantart.com/view/18841400/ [09:16] ajmitch_: morning [09:17] mhz_design, thanks :) [09:17] you should have accpetance by debian people when they see that === ^eniac^ [n=eniac@212.124.89.173] has joined #edubuntu [09:25] <^eniac^> hi all! === Orbman_ [i=grant@85-210-38-224.dsl.pipex.com] has left #edubuntu [] === Orbman [i=grant@85-210-38-224.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:27] <^eniac^> Spacey, can i use the "apt-get source" command for "deb" packets? [09:30] <^eniac^> eniac@eniac-linux:~> apt-get source /windows/D/eniac/projects/edubg/alevt/alevt 1.6.1+kanotix3.diff.gz [09:30] <^eniac^> Reading Package Lists... Done [09:30] <^eniac^> Building Dependency Tree... Done [09:30] <^eniac^> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list [09:30] <^eniac^> why? [09:31] <^eniac^> the same error is for the deb packets... [09:32] ogra: I am starting a mail to jdub about ML [09:32] ok [09:32] ogra: I am bit lost.. [09:32] why ? just request a list ... [09:33] ogra: should I request for a edubuntu-cl or edubuntu-la or edubuntu-es? [09:33] jdub is a nice guy, dont be worried [09:33] or we could have all linked together? [09:33] i think either -es or -cl [09:33] i think -es makes most sense, it covers all spanish speaking people [09:33] yup [09:33] so, es will be. [09:34] ^eniac^, you need to tell apt where the source packages are ... a deb is not a source package, its a binary [09:35] <^eniac^> oooooooooooo [09:35] <^eniac^> :-) [09:35] a source package is made of 3 parts ... [09:35] a .dsc file, a diff.gz file and a orig.tar.gz file [09:35] <^eniac^> I am LAMER with mostly L! [09:36] the orig.tar.gz file contains the source as you would download it from for example sourceforge ... [09:36] <^eniac^> ok [09:36] the diff.gz file contains the packaging info to make a deb out of the soure [09:36] <^eniac^> I have and other packets... [09:37] <^eniac^> I am LAMER with mostly L! [09:37] and the dsc file contains the info which orig.tar.gz and dsc files belong together to build adeb [09:37] *a deb [09:38] look at http://packages.ubuntu.com ,search for any package, scroll down to the bottom if you are at the package page ... there you'll find these 3 files [09:39] ^eniac^, see the bottom of this page for example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/alevt [09:39] <^eniac^> i have other resource, but w will download also from this... [09:39] especially the line starting: "Source Package: alevt, Download:" [09:39] <^eniac^> http://kanotix.com/files/debian/ [09:41] you cant use this with apt ... [09:41] <^eniac^> why? [09:41] <^eniac^> i am beginner, sorry... [09:41] <^eniac^> I am stupid... [09:41] because apt works with repository, the above is not a repository [09:42] for apt you need to uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list [09:43] then just do: apt-get source alevt [09:43] it will download and unpack the source package for you in the current dir ... [09:44] then you just can do: cd alevt-1.6.1 and work on the source [09:45] oh, and after changing the sources.list file you need to run: sudo apt-get update, so apt knows you changed something [09:45] <^eniac^> 10x [09:48] if you want to work manually with the three files i explained above (without using apt) , install the package dpkg-dev, then you can download the three files and run: dpkg-source -x alevt_1.6.1-7.dsc in the dir the files are ... it will unpack it for you and you can again do cd alevt-1.6.1 [09:49] <^eniac^> i wand to make one distro [09:49] <^eniac^> but I am beginner... [09:49] a whole distro ? [09:50] <^eniac^> no, with graphic interface and education programs [09:50] <^eniac^> education distribution for bulgarian stufents and schools... [09:51] so you just want to change the selection of software ? [09:52] <^eniac^> yes, and i also want to translate the software... [09:55] did you conside to just tweak ubuntu/edubuntu to your needs ? [09:58] rosetta offers a nice interface for translators .... [09:58] and tweaking a ubuntu/edubuntu CD is very easy [09:59] ^eniac^: what features would that distro have? [10:00] ^eniac^, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo [10:00] <^eniac^> I don't have pereferendces: ubuntu/edubuntu/debian ot knoppix [10:03] use this customization howto above and just submit your translations for the packages you want in your distro [10:03] thats way easier than learning how to make a complete distro on your own [10:04] ^eniac^, https://launchpad.net/rosetta [10:04] <^eniac^> 10x for the link! [10:05] <^eniac^> for the links [10:05] :) [10:06] .oO(ogra is Mr. Edubuntu 10x) [10:06] <^eniac^> Yes [10:07] ogra: you'll need a wider biz card [10:07] or your last names will not fit [10:07] :D [10:07] but not even me would be able to build a whole distro on my own ... :) [10:07] .oO(ogra is Mr. Edubuntu 9x) [10:07] hehehe [10:07] <^eniac^> ehehhe [10:07] *g* === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:19] Hi [11:20] ogra [11:20] hello [11:22] Lord_Athur: i [11:22] hey [11:23] is free to get a canonical mail account? [11:24] I'd like to have one [11:24] jajjaa [11:24] :P [11:24] Lord_Athur: me too :D [11:24] I guess/suppose you have to show contribution to ubuntu [11:25] and that means more than "willing to contribute" but "contributing in real" [11:25] yes [11:25] you are right [11:26] mhz_design, si me equivoco en alguna cosa de ingls, me dices porfa [11:26] :P [11:26] mhz_design, tell me [11:27] np [11:27] tell me your plain [11:28] plain? [11:28] well [11:28] you asked to me [11:29] about what I want to do [11:29] I've supposed you'd tell me something [11:29] any project to participate [11:30] or anything similar [11:30] Lord_Athur: in a few minutes, I hope you can join EdubuntuChile team in launchpad or EdubuntuStudyContent [11:30] Lord_Athur: but dont do it now because i'm having some problems [11:31] with launchpad group creation [11:31] ok [11:31] thanks [11:32] np [11:32] Lord_Athur: you could start rviewing the edubuntu pages in the wiki [11:33] search for all pages starting with Edubuntu.... [11:33] yes [11:33] I'm in it [11:34] basically now, EdubuntuSoftwareList (not gnome forced :D ) needs to know if you can use it spanish [11:35] ogra: I have created EdubuntuChile and EdubuntuStudyContent in LP, unsuccessfully. Sure I don't need to be approved as member? === Orbman [i=grant@85-210-45-93.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:37] mhz_design, no entend la ltima linea que me escribistes [11:37] escribiste [11:38] mhz_design, sorry, i'm about to go to bed ... https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile looks ok to me [11:38] EdubuntuSoftwareList necesita 2 cosas: traduccion al castellano y verificar que funcionen en castellano [11:38] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-study-content too [11:38] ok [11:39] ogra: ok, but I get errors when I am request to confirm that I am the one who wants to create them [11:40] what's the official page of Edubuntusofwarelist? [11:40] oh and for EdubuntuSoftwareList, you dont need to list khelpcenter ... [11:40] its ony there because the other apps dont work without it [11:40] ogra: ok [11:41] mhz_design, [11:41] Lord_Athur: ? por que preguntas? [11:41] me dijiste [11:41] que revisara [11:41] y quisiera empezar por all [11:41] kmessedwords was renamed recently and glife had to be dropped because of gtk1 [11:41] si pero porque preguntas si es oficial? [11:41] so it will change a bit for dapper [11:41] no, me refera a la pag [11:41] ogra: good to know that [11:42] no, me refera a la pag osea al enlace [11:42] ahhh [11:42] es que ando leyendo las pag de wiki con ttulos de edubuntu [11:42] y estoy aqui [11:42] Lord_Athur: todos los CamelloCaseCamello se refieren a que estan en el wiki [11:43] que es camellocasecamello? [11:43] si usas el nombre de la pagina tal cual te la doy y la pones despues de wiki.edubuntu.org/ [11:43] daras con la pagina [11:43] Lord_Athur: mala memoria tienes [11:43] recuerdas cuando hablamos de AlejandroLeon [11:44] en vez de alejandroleon [11:44] ?> [11:44] sip [11:44] :P [11:44] que distraido fui [11:45] ok, wiki, lo que usamos en edubuntu y otros sitios, usan PalabraPalabra para definir una URL [11:45] de este modo, es mucho mas facil acordarse en vez de ~56/%er%^ simbolos y numeros [11:46] entiendo y se todo eso, pero [11:46] an no entiendo que tiene q ver la palabra camellocase... [11:46] :P [11:47] ah, porque imaginate un camello con joroba :D [11:47] AlejandroLeon [11:47] MauricioHernandez [11:47] ArribaAbajo [11:47] MayuculaMinuscula [11:47] etc [11:48] jajajajaja [11:48] estoy leyendo los wiki de ttulo eduntu [11:48] :D [11:48] con camellos y todo [11:48] xD [11:49] estoy en la lista de software [11:51] pero la pag de EdubuntuChile no existe al parecer [11:54] ? [11:54] cual? [11:54] EdubuntuChile [11:54] cual? [11:54] url [11:54] note that launchpad doesnt use wiki format [11:54] sipo [11:54] camello [11:54] !! [11:54] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile [11:54] ap [11:54] ogra: yup, I know [11:54] ok ogra [11:55] Lord_Athur: como te dije... wiki.edubuntu.org/ ahi pones los camellos :) [11:55] no en LP [11:55] mhz_design, and i see nothing wrong with the team, you obviously own it and will be able to change everything [11:55] sip [11:56] can I login in this page mhz_design ? [11:56] ogra: okis, i'm in #launchpad now, just in case there are some probs for people trying to join [11:56] ogra: np, I can handle it, go to bed! :D [11:56] night then :) [11:56] ogra: sleep with eeduangels [11:56] can I login in this page (https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile)mhz_design ? [11:57] sure, join [11:57] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-chile/+join ;) [11:57] LOL!!! [11:57] xD [11:57] ogra: can't help helping [11:57] pero no saba se lo habas habilitao po mhz_design, me dijiste q estabas en eso [11:57] [11:57] i'm really gone now :) [11:58] np [11:58] ogra: don't go :D [11:58] Lord_Athur: aun estoy en eso [11:58] ap ok [11:58] vale [11:58] Lord_Athur: no me preguntaste si estaba listo, solo si podias [11:58] :D [11:58] np [11:59] :P