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| Diablo-D3 | I'm streaming live: http://svn.atheme.org:10000/broadband.ogg | 01:34 |
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| raphink | Riddell, \sh_away : you're around? | 01:51 |
| raphink | I'm writing a script that would do something of an emerge-like command on debian systems | 01:55 |
| raphink | anyone wanna try it ? ;) | 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | raphink: stfu. | 01:55 |
| raphink | Diablo-D3: wanna try? | 01:55 |
| raphink | ;) | 01:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | I wonder when archive will get these debs | 02:49 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 08:35 |
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| Tonio_ | morning | 10:11 |
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| Tm_T | hm, where's kdelibs4c2 package in dapper? | 10:48 |
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| Tm_T | ok, no adept, no amarok... let's see if I can compile and use Kopete :p | 11:05 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: it's replaced by kdelibs4c2a | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | hum | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | so some packages haven't updated yet(?) | 11:08 |
| freeflying | sure | 11:08 |
| Tm_T | :p | 11:08 |
| Tm_T | it's just, my whole kde is in one big mess now =) | 11:08 |
| Tm_T | no kdm | 11:08 |
| Tm_T | maybe I start to compile kde myself ;) | 11:11 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: you only need compile the kde-style-lipstik | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | eh | 11:16 |
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| Tm_T | great, now electricity was cut out | 11:35 |
| Tm_T | I need ups | 11:36 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hi | 11:36 |
| freeflying | Riddell: hi | 11:37 |
| Riddell | hi freeflying | 11:37 |
| freeflying | Riddell: when will all kde3.5 package in dapper | 11:38 |
| Tm_T | let's see if I cancompile amarok | 11:42 |
| Tm_T | I can, without arts engine \o/ | 11:42 |
| Riddell | freeflying: soon | 11:45 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: why withour arts? | 11:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: pong! | 11:45 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: looks like I can't install some arts related dev packages | 11:46 |
| Tm_T | so configure leaves arts support | 11:47 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: what can't you install? | 11:47 |
| Tm_T | dunno, my kde is now quite mess, I'm trying to collect stuff back together | 11:48 |
| Tm_T | I tell as soon as I know more | 11:48 |
| Tm_T | E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied. | 11:49 |
| Tm_T | when doing apt-get build-dep amarok | 11:49 |
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| Tm_T | ok, I can compile workin amarok | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | <3 | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | checking arts/artsmodules.h presence... no | 11:54 |
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| Tm_T | humm | 11:54 |
| Tm_T | what package provides that one? | 11:54 |
| Tm_T | apt-file returns none | 11:56 |
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| Tm_T | have to install nvidia drivers -> | 12:45 |
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| \sh | Riddell: why is the layout and style of 3.5rc2 in dapper different then in breezy? | 01:11 |
| Riddell | \sh: no kde-style-lipstik yet | 01:12 |
| Riddell | and no kubuntu-default-settings | 01:12 |
| \sh | Riddell: no...even the panel is different... | 01:31 |
| Riddell | \sh: panel layout is governed kubuntu-default-settings (which won't install because no kde-style-lipstik) | 01:32 |
| \sh | k | 01:33 |
| \sh | bbl meeting | 01:33 |
| freeflying | Riddell: many package need recompile accord to kdelibs4c2a | 01:42 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: yes, they're waiting on cdbs being fixed. also akode has got lost in the archives and kdepim is stuck in NEW for review | 01:43 |
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| Riddell | tvo: I think this one is for you http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20176 | 01:53 |
| tvo | Riddell: yup, it's one of the bugs I already heard about in #kubuntu-nl. That's why I want to make a separate google suggest searchbar for dapper | 01:56 |
| tvo | so users can optionally disable the gs bar and (re)enable the normal searchbar | 01:56 |
| Riddell | should thye be separate? wouldn't just an option to turn off be better? | 01:57 |
| tvo | well, another option would be to make a bar including features of the "normal" searchbar _and_ gs features | 01:59 |
| tvo | but I want to get rid of the patch which keeps breaking, so even if it will be 1 multifunctional searchbar, I'd rather fork the old one | 02:00 |
| Riddell | eventually we should get this into KDE trunk | 02:00 |
| tvo | yep, that's another reason to clean it up a bit.. | 02:01 |
| tvo | anyway, I think I'll rewrite the thing for dapper asap | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | whee | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | dapper is a mess now :p | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | do my best to get things working here -> | 02:04 |
| tvo | heh | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | hmm, let's see if I can compile kdepim | 02:06 |
| Tm_T | atleast KDE upgrades messed some of my options | 02:09 |
| Tm_T | kde related options and settings | 02:09 |
| Tm_T | uff, and no kmix :o | 02:11 |
| tvo | I'm on breezy now, last time I tried to upgrade my dapper install debsig segfaulted | 02:13 |
| tvo | also I'm too lazy to add it to my grub menu.lst, so I can only chroot into it | 02:13 |
| Tm_T | =) | 02:13 |
| Tm_T | I have only this dapper | 02:13 |
| Tm_T | soo... | 02:13 |
| tvo | hmm, yeah.. | 02:14 |
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| Tm_T | and now amarok doesn't work =) | 02:16 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: see Riddell's message as above | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | ehm | 02:24 |
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| Tm_T | let's see if recompile&&install fixes amarok | 02:53 |
| Tm_T | nah | 02:54 |
| Tm_T | segmentation fault immediately | 02:54 |
| Tm_T | full recompile then | 02:55 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: can you compile amarok now? | 02:56 |
| Tm_T | yes I can, with xine and gst engines | 02:59 |
| Tm_T | but amarokapp executable segfaults | 03:00 |
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| Tm_T | yup | 03:03 |
| Tm_T | nope, can't get it running | 03:04 |
| Tm_T | and can't install juk | 03:04 |
| Tm_T | hum hum hum, what I'll use to play music... | 03:05 |
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| Riddell | Tm_T: ogg123 working great for me | 03:08 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: heh, I use mp3blaster :) | 03:08 |
| Tm_T | maybe I'm just too used with amaroK and easyness of it | 03:08 |
| Tm_T | I used to do ~10 albums queue | 03:09 |
| Tm_T | now I know why people doesn't usually use "bleeding edge" =) | 03:10 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: me too , now skim on my desktop can not run | 03:14 |
| Tm_T | heh | 03:15 |
| Tm_T | if I even try to do anything screensaver related -> kdesktop crashes | 03:16 |
| freeflying | Riddell: what's the difference between kdelibs4c2 and kdelibs4c2a | 03:16 |
| Riddell | freeflying: libstdc++ got rebuilt with a new option which means some libraries have a new ABI and are no longer compatible so had to be renamed, kdelibs4c2a is the new one | 03:19 |
| Riddell | we now need to rebuild all the packages that depend on kdelibs to be built against kdelibs4c2a | 03:19 |
| Tm_T | hmh, my "extra" hd isn't here | 03:20 |
| Tm_T | I thought to set up breezy in it | 03:20 |
| freeflying | Riddell: i recompile skim against kdelibs4c2a, it won't woks | 03:20 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ah, so my amarok segfaults might be kdelibs4c2a ABI related issue? | 03:26 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: it would need to be recompiled | 03:30 |
| Tm_T | already done twice | 03:31 |
| Tm_T | I try again with clean mulimedia dir -> | 03:32 |
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| Tm_T | nope | 04:33 |
| Tm_T | can't get amarok working now at all :p | 04:33 |
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| Tm_T | would someone ping me when juk is installable please, thanks -> | 05:24 |
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| Tm_T | hum, kdesktop crashed: 1, kicker crashed: 5 | 07:18 |
| Tm_T | :p | 07:18 |
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| Tm_T | hey, no pine in ubuntu?! | 07:42 |
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| Riddell | Tm_T: pine is non-free, it's probably in multiverse | 08:41 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: heh, not in dapper | 08:46 |
| Tm_T | dunno about breezy | 08:46 |
| Tm_T | but I downloaded package from their webpage | 08:47 |
| Tm_T | errh, so I can't set composite shadow off from one window/app ? | 08:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: you 'can' | 08:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | just probably not with any current compositing tool | 08:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: 3.5rc* built packages are in dapper now, btw | 08:58 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: umm, I know, I put them there | 09:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: yeah, but didnt you upload those earlier? | 09:00 |
| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: heh, sad though | 09:02 |
| Tm_T | so I disabled whole shadow thing | 09:02 |
| Tm_T | caused more irritation than fun | 09:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, its a pita | 09:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a neat toy, but I want full hardware acceleration | 09:02 |
| Tm_T | just if I get nvidia working in dapper | 09:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean | 09:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I HAVE A RADEOn | 09:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | THE ULTIMATE IN RENDERING POWAH! | 09:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | FFFEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAR THE RADEON! | 09:03 |
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| Diablo-D3 | DUUUN DUN DUN DUN DUNNNNNN DDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH </theme song> | 09:05 |
| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: calm down | 09:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: you really know how to kill the party, dont you? | 09:06 |
| Tm_T | yes | 09:27 |
| Tm_T | hmm, some upgrades, let's see if juk can be installed now | 09:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | juk sucks, use amarok | 09:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | then again, amarok is broken too =/ | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | and I can compile amaroK just fine, but it segfaults :p | 09:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | so can't use it :p | 09:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | actually, I've been using an experimental player lately | 09:32 |
| sebas | Diablo-D3: You could send the author an email, stating that his work sucks. wheeler@kde.org | 09:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | audacious | 09:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fork of the old bmp tree | 09:33 |
| Tm_T | yhh | 09:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the guy behind it fixed the mp3 engine, so it sounds even better than mad | 09:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | mp3s are actually /good sounding/ with this thing | 09:34 |
| Tm_T | no juk :( | 09:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: if you try out aud, use the svn version | 09:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm trying to add stuff to make it more amarok like, though | 09:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | though I may end up just going ahead and making my own amarok-like media player | 09:36 |
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| Tm_T | :p | 09:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, I like the amarok interface | 09:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just dont like the internals | 09:37 |
| Tm_T | heh | 09:37 |
| Tm_T | ok, where's that app then? | 09:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://audacious-media-player.org/ | 09:37 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: when you build svn, tell me if it compiles for you or not | 09:40 |
| Tm_T | sure | 09:41 |
| === Diablo-D3 thinks he may have found TEH BUG | ||
| Tm_T | X crashed =) | 09:43 |
| Tm_T | "X caught signal 11" | 09:43 |
| Tm_T | wheee | 09:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | 09:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | okay, nm, aud builds | 09:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | my local copy was whacked | 09:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I love how it has a ton of native plugins | 09:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | it can do a bunch of game music formats | 09:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | and does wma now | 09:44 |
| Tm_T | http://audacious-media-player.org/SVN <- in trunk there there's no audacious-devel directory | 09:47 |
| Tm_T | uhh | 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | er,what? | 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | works for me | 09:47 |
| Tm_T | nothing :p | 09:48 |
| Tm_T | http://svn.atheme.org/audacious/trunk/ | 09:48 |
| Tm_T | look there | 09:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah? | 09:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | audacious-devel is the local dir it gets put in -_- | 09:48 |
| Tm_T | aaah! | 09:49 |
| Tm_T | sorry | 09:49 |
| === Diablo-D3 is streaming live! http://svn.atheme.org:10000/broadband.ogg.m3u | ||
| Riddell | \sh: cdbs compiled. woo | 10:03 |
| \sh | Riddell: congrats :) I saw your two uploads :) | 10:03 |
| Riddell | actually that was the 7th upload, but never mind | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | hum | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: juk is installable soon then? | 10:09 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: no, that's waiting on akode, goodness knows when that'll get fixed | 10:11 |
| Tm_T | haha | 10:12 |
| Tm_T | ok | 10:12 |
| Tm_T | and uhm, kdemultimedia-dev is the package that is needed to get arts engine in amaroK | 10:18 |
| Riddell | I might just upload a new akode and see if that fixes everything | 10:20 |
| Riddell | ooh, elmo says he fixed it | 10:21 |
| Riddell | and it's in the archives! | 10:21 |
| Tm_T | :o | 10:23 |
| Tm_T | that's good? I mean good good? | 10:24 |
| \sh | Riddell: do u happen to know if anyone is using firebird? | 10:24 |
| \sh | Riddell: as in database? | 10:24 |
| \sh | Riddell: especially in combination with hk-classes? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | \sh: I don't know anyone doing so. qt isn't compiled against firebird since it's in universe | 10:26 |
| \sh | Riddell: ok well...firebird is only compiled on i386 and not on the other 2 main archs...so I wonder if I should remove the whole firebird support from hk-classes or just not include for amd64 and powerpc | 10:27 |
| Riddell | \sh: may as well just do it on i386 | 10:27 |
| \sh | so leave i386 but not the others... | 10:28 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:29 |
| Riddell | Build-Depend: firebird [i386] , ... | 10:29 |
| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: I cant use unsermake to compile it, right? | 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | probably not. | 10:30 |
| Tm_T | I thought so | 10:31 |
| Tm_T | and make output is mostly unreadable | 10:31 |
| Tm_T | compared to unsermake output | 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, blame xmms on that | 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | xmms has some of the worst make scripts known to man | 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | bmp never cleaned them up much, and aud hasnt either. | 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | hey Riddell | 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | libkcddb1 does compile | 10:33 |
| Tm_T | AAAH! | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | I see... gnome file dialog... | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | hmm, or is it gtk? | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | anyway, painnnn | 10:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its whatever you have installed | 10:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a gtk app, but gnome regularly takes that over =( | 10:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wish they'd put the old dialog back | 10:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | or emulate kde's | 10:37 |
| === Diablo-D3 builds krita. | ||
| Diablo-D3 | oh wow | 10:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | unsermake has sexy output | 10:40 |
| Tm_T | yes | 10:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | AND A PERCENTAGE THINGY | 10:41 |
| \sh | Riddell: forget about this...amd64 is explicit mentioned in firebird2 control file as build target...so something else is wrong | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: one thing, can I change font colours? | 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: define font colors | 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you mean on any skinned dialog, thats up to the winamp theme | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | hum, default skin, and playlist is almost unreadable | 10:44 |
| Tm_T | and oh so small mainwindow | 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the winamp legacy for you. | 10:44 |
| Tm_T | yuk | 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | no kidding. | 10:44 |
| Tm_T | I miss my amaroK | 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | I miss amarok too =( | 10:44 |
| Tm_T | hum so I can' control easily playlist font colours? | 10:45 |
| Tm_T | +t | 10:45 |
| Tm_T | where's all my fantastic winamp skins! | 10:46 |
| === Tm_T made several awesome skins in his youth | ||
| Diablo-D3 | heh | 10:46 |
| Tm_T | and those ar far more usable than this default skin | 10:50 |
| Tm_T | readable I mean | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont care for the winamp design at all | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | me neither | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | but, like I said, winamp legacy | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I could kick the xmms developers for trying to clone winamp | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | /bad idea/ | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | one thing I don't understand | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | why I can't use awesome kwin to handle windows?! | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | because bill gates hates you? | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | I mean audicious ain and playlist window in this case ;) | 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh | 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | winamp legacy. | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | hate it | 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hate how window managers work in X anyhow | 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | we have 1383582590823590 window managers, and they all suck. | 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | and none of them are built into the server, either. | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | well, kwin is best I've ever used | 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | what we need, is a fully programmable window manager that can fucking do anything | 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | any possible imaginable thing, no matter how retarded or totally awesome, should be able to be done. | 10:53 |
| Riddell | seaLne: fancy hosting the next akademy at strathclyde? | 11:02 |
| Tm_T | ? | 11:03 |
| Tm_T | what? where's that? | 11:03 |
| seaLne | i'd sort of thought about it but i wasn't sure how it would work out as it would need to be during the summer and the aniversary would be after that | 11:03 |
| seaLne | and the halls of residence are full with pipers for the glasgow piping thing which is at some point in august i think | 11:04 |
| seaLne | ah 7-13th aug so that rules out the first half of august | 11:09 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ^ | 11:09 |
| Riddell | seaLne: before that is fine | 11:19 |
| Riddell | seaLne: previously we've done it late in august which apparantly is the time americans go back to uni | 11:19 |
| seaLne | so they can't go? is that what the complaint was about then? | 11:22 |
| Tm_T | here univs and polytechnics start in late aug and month from that | 11:23 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: where is here? | 11:27 |
| Tm_T | strathclyde? | 11:27 |
| Tm_T | ah | 11:27 |
| Tm_T | sorry | 11:28 |
| Tm_T | I mean here in Finland | 11:28 |
| seaLne | Riddell: is it a case of a proposed venue decides the dates or is the dates decided by "kde" | 11:30 |
| Riddell | seaLne: venue decides dates | 11:30 |
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| seaLne | not sure how i could arrange ~25k of sponsorship eith | 11:42 |
| Riddell | seaLne: there are other more expereinced KDE people for doing that sort of thing | 11:45 |
| Riddell | seaLne: do you know how much strathclyde would charge? | 11:45 |
| seaLne | no, but they are money grabbers | 11:46 |
| seaLne | suppose i could ask around | 11:46 |
| seaLne | i'm not sure if the dept could get away with just booking rooms.... | 11:46 |
| Riddell | 24 hours a day for 8 days :) | 11:47 |
| seaLne | there are halls of residence on campus so ~5min from anywhere on campus that it would be held and right next to the city center of course | 11:48 |
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| seaLne | it would be cool for it to be in scotland tho | 11:50 |
| Riddell | certainly would | 11:51 |
| Riddell | and glasgow has a good LUG for support | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | hum, flight to scotland from here... something like 40e usnig ryanair I think | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | using | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | anyway, sleep I get -> | 11:52 |
| === Riddell too | ||
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