=== Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-10834.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] args... libghemical0 *is* evil :( [12:19] why is that [12:20] it links agains c++ and is being built by g++-3.4... and g++-3.4 is not only used by libghemical0 but also gets drawn in by one build-depends which is some fortran stuff [12:20] and still I don't have much of a clue [12:20] ouch [12:21] at least i now know where ghemicals random segfaults come from *g* [12:21] Is this for the MOTUScience team? [12:21] oh, is there a MOTUSciences team? === Kyral falls down [12:22] wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUScience [12:22] he, seems i missed that ;) [12:23] at least I know where to call for help now... thx Kyral :) [12:24] Hey its led by two newbies :P [12:25] *g* [12:28] lol [12:28] sistpoty: delegate ;) === Kyral looks confused [12:28] sistpoty: probably something to talk to azeem about anyway [12:28] ajmitch: i will :) [12:29] Well, we have a MOTU on the team, but AFAIK LJ and I have done the most work [12:53] sistpoty: can't do much about the fortran stuff in ghemical [12:54] sistpoty: however, the new ghemical version doesn't segfault anymore, I put up breezy packages at people.debian.org/~mbanck/ubuntu-breezy [12:54] azeem: do you know whether fortran stuff is c only or using c++ as well? [12:55] c only? [12:57] azeem: i just tried to figure out if the fortran-libs need to be compiled with gfortran to get rid of gcc-3.4 [12:58] azeem: if these don't depend on any specific c++-stuff, it should be safe to leave them as is [12:58] I don't think they depend on c++ stuff [12:58] that's good :) [01:01] azeem: for your new packages: will libghemical be compiled with g++4? [01:02] yes [01:03] azeem: ok, then I guess I'll wait for these to hit unstable and request a sync... ok? [01:03] sure [01:03] cool, thx :) === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] sistpoty: see, delegation is great ;) [01:06] ajmitch: it is, thx for the introduction :) === mitsuhiko is now known as notmisuhiko === notmisuhiko is now known as mitsuhiko === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62873.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] ajmitch: do you think we should bump standards-version for a merge (if appropriate and there are other changes as well)? [01:24] only if it's reasonable to do so [01:24] if it were the only change I woudn't :) [01:24] & if you do the proper upgrade check [01:25] hm... i personally wouldn't even if i did other changes, to keep the delta as small as possible... but I'm just thinking of sponsoring an upload for zakame === jamessan|nyc [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] I'd stay away from making the change usually === edoardo__ is now known as edoardo [01:58] can someone please push libiptcdata from REVU? [01:58] it as lost its vote because I updated the distribution field === Gazer [n=gazer@adsl-teco-200-59-120-122.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-204-45.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] hub: i just took a glimpse at libiptcdata... please check the -dbg library, which has strange contents [02:29] hub: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.0 [02:30] hub: otherwise it's really nice :) [02:30] still awake, sistpoty ? :) [02:30] ajmitch: yep... but not for long [02:35] hub: and another thing: the -doc package installs to /usr/share/gtk-doc/... intended? === zkl|laptop [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] sistpoty: oh [02:45] crap [02:45] sistpoty: that is where the upstream installs [02:45] sistpoty: the docs [02:46] hub: maybe you could change this ;) [02:47] ok, now i really need some sleep... gn8 everyone [02:51] make sense === laszlok [n=laszlok@134.117.187.217] has joined #ubuntu-motu === laszlok [n=laszlok@134.117.187.217] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zkl|laptop [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-214-59.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-67-183-143-91.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@hmb-11-2.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-136-248.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] hey LJ [04:44] Hi Kyral [04:45] how goes it [04:49] well, kinda busy right now. I finally heard from the guy who made the original Packaging Guide right after I just had it put in the doc team repo. Oh, and I spent 3 1/2 hr at Walmart getting a flat tire fixed >:-( === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] lol [04:51] ah, the fun of walmart [04:52] well, at least it was free [04:52] my wife was about to go ballistic [04:53] lol [04:53] she had had enough of Walmart after the 1st hour :-) === ajmitch has only recently had the joy of visiting walmart [04:54] since we 'sadly' don't have them in NZ ;) [04:54] then I got home and my brother from WA called and said that the graphics card I got with him didn't work [04:55] lol [04:55] oh and the memory we got didn't work either [04:56] morning guys [04:56] hey andrew [04:56] all I can say is the Dell Dimension 3000 is no fun [04:56] hey magnon [04:56] my laptop should be back soon so I can get work done again [04:56] silly apple [04:57] Wheee, my first merge has been uploaded! [04:57] But I'm not whitelisted, so I didn't see the mail. :-( [04:57] ajmitch: so, I want to become an ubuntu 'member' [04:58] ajmitch: and then MOTU [04:58] lifeless: excellent.. [04:58] I've wikied my obvious stuff up [04:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobertCollins [04:58] argh. stupid outlook. why on earth does it decide to download every single email from an imap server_ [04:59] probably your IMAP ids changed [04:59] lifeless: you have the advantage of having been drinking with the CC & TB members :) [04:59] first time I added the account, so no [04:59] magnon: in which case its at a minimum scanning the headers, and possibly more depending on your settings [04:59] ajmitch: true, but there is due process [05:00] magnon: If it didn't, then it couldn't create a massive 1GB file of all your stuff -- and loose it all it when it hits a bad sector on the disk :-) [05:00] ajmitch: putting in 'been drinking with Mark' isn't /exactly/ a 'contribution' [05:00] Heh, it could work in your favour. :-) [05:00] lifeless: I never configure, I assume sane defaults. And it downloads everything, which is insane :) [05:00] StevenK: ;) [05:00] no, but being a DD can probably help [05:01] lifeless: if you've got time & are willing to help out in general, we're mainly doing merges at the moment === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] ajmitch: anyway, you're closer to this bit of the process than I am regularly : am I in the right ballpark, or should I put in a dedicated weekend or two bugfixing not-stuff-I-maintain ? [05:01] ajmitch: I am happy to help out in general, for sure. [05:02] a bit of time getting some fixes in will work in your favour [05:02] mako has been turning people away that have done lots, but over a short time [05:02] for ubuntu membership [05:03] see, maybe I'm being harsh, but I fix lots of bugs: often before they hit ubuntu ;) === dereks_ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] but I'm not claiming those as contributions, it seems wrong to me to do so. [05:03] which is good, but it depends whether they see that :) [05:03] yah [05:03] I'm going to skip this CC meeting and put my name down for the next one. [05:03] Then we'll see what Mako has to say. :-) [05:03] Membership? [05:04] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember [05:04] I know what it is [05:05] I was asking if StevenK was going for it [05:05] heh, the ? was ambiguous then [05:05] I plan to go for it the soonest I don't have class during a Meeting [05:06] at the moment there's nothing else I can go for, except fixing more bugs & getting new things in [05:06] Kyral: Not this meeting (which is 6/12), but the one after [05:06] yah === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] Can I close Malone bugs in an upload? [05:43] A'la: (Closes: #235433) in the changelog for Debian. === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] StevenK: no, hasn't been coupled yet (I do miss that feature) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] crimsun: So noted. I'll note the bug number in the changelog anyway. === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trash[impersonat [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] yo yo [07:05] hi [07:14] Oh. The debdiff between ntop 3.0-3ubuntu1 and ntop 3.2ubuntu1 is 7Mb. === StevenK really ponders the necessity of that before throwing it to Launchpad. === StevenK ponders a debdiff between 3.2-1 and 3.2-1ubunt1, which is much smaller. === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] I think the smaller debdiff is probably more useful [07:33] just as a guess === zakame [n=zak@203.215.86.76] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] hello [07:38] StevenK: I would always post the debdiff between debian and new ubuntu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] hey minghua :D how's the merging? [07:43] zakame: I didn't do much with merging last week [07:44] zakame: I got the scim package in Debian ready for the libstdc++ transition though === hunger [n=hunger@p54A607E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] woo === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun merges vlc 0.8.4.debian-1 === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] slomo_: ping, got a sec for hardware-monitor? :) === talios [n=amrk@203-211-76-226.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === drbyte [n=byte@fedora/byte] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] hello MOTUs [08:21] i have a problem with one of your packages *grin* [08:22] ooh [08:27] gforge [08:27] its got a dependency loop [08:28] can you fix it? :) a debdiff or two might make motus jump for joy :p [08:29] hmm. if you guys are willing to help (i'm really a fedora developer, not a DD), i'll take a gander in a bit [08:29] cool! [08:31] ok, well, i'll be fiddling with it today/tmrw then [08:31] drbyte: is there already a bug filed? [08:32] minghua: i haven't actually checked. i found this last week, but i've had a lot of work to do since then. i have a few moments now, so i'm about to be checking [08:37] drbyte: thanks. if you file a bug that explain the situation clearly, I think it won't be hard for some MOTU to get a patch out even if you can't [08:37] checking https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gforge [08:37] minghua: i'm sure i can get a patch out... i just have to learn a bit about these magical debian/rules and what not ... [08:37] i'm used to spec files [08:39] drbyte: The problem is more than likely in debian/control. [08:39] StevenK: see, toldja its new [08:39] i've got some stuff to do atm, i'll come back later and prod ok. thanks [08:56] err, is libmagick6-dev dropped? I've got a b-d to it from nip2, won't build === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] there's libmagick9-dev which seems to replace 6, but libvips10-dev needs 6 === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] never mind... === talios [n=amrk@203-211-76-226.ue.woosh.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] morning [09:45] morning [09:45] vlc_0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu1 uploaded :)) [09:47] hi [09:47] somebody has some time to review motutools ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1036 === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0F29.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] hello [09:54] re daniel [09:55] hey crimsun :) [09:56] heya dholbach :) [09:56] hey zakame :) === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-18-110.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] hi [10:06] morning ajmitch ;) hi * [10:06] has anybody heared about OpenC++? [10:07] morning all === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60882.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] er === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] morning all [10:12] hi Tonio_ [10:12] hi zakame === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=ngazer@ADSL-200-59-74-42.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] <\sh> moins [11:01] hey \sh === ajmitch waits for the merge upload flood [11:02] crimsun: seen keybuk's mail about wpasupplicant? [11:03] ajmitch: n'yet, doing work stuff atm [11:03] k [11:04] <\sh> ajmitch: oh well...I'm since 5:00 UTC in the office...and already worked...waiting now for one more meeting and after that I'm going home and sleep... [11:04] *ouch* === ajmitch only stayed at office until 6:30pm [11:04] ajmitch: thanks [11:04] & that was late for me, because I was moving an install of our app from 1 server to another [11:05] <\sh> ajmitch: lets wait for elmo...he has to do a lot of syncs for me :) [11:05] yeah, I've seen a huge list you asked for ;) [11:05] I'm taking things easy at the moment, sorry [11:06] <\sh> ajmitch: no problem at all...I was just burning ,) === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d094088.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] do we all agree on dropping http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUPackages ? === siretart agrees [11:12] yes [11:12] it's very obsolete [11:12] done [11:13] dholbach: while you are at it, I think the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps is obsolete, too [11:13] about the only thing I used it for was noting what packages I cared for in debian [11:13] and we should move to a MOTU/* structure :) [11:13] dholbach: I think we should drop the lower part (as noted on the page) [11:13] but noone would look at MOTUPackages to know to not trample on my packages ;) === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] ajmitch: I think we should have something like http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ajmitch@debian.org for universe [11:14] <\sh> well...I will write a spec today (later this day) for bjornT_ to have a support tracker system related to teams. [11:14] hi \sh [11:14] \sh: that would be awesome [11:14] siretart: something like that [11:14] siretart: sounds ok, to drop it... we just need a way to say "i work on this" or "this patch needs review" [11:14] \sh: if we can get it related to default bug assignment ,it would be great [11:15] dholbach: malone! [11:15] maybe we should have a tag on malone for that [11:15] well [11:15] RequestedReview or something [11:15] we basically need a list of malone bugs [11:15] <\sh> ajmitch: well...first of all....the support tracker should handle "UniverseCandidates" requests by ubuntu/ubuntu users [11:15] non motus should imo attach debdiffs to malone bugs, which are linked in one central place [11:15] \sh: then we need a way to filter [11:15] <\sh> ajmitch: secondly for unmet deps...we should use malone... [11:15] perhaps we can script something small on tiber for that [11:16] \sh: I agree [11:16] dholbach: filtering what exactly? [11:16] <\sh> dholbach: which is on the todo of LP guys...because filtering is just not working because of the load [11:16] malone works much much better than the wiki, even with its flaws [11:16] <\sh> dholbach: right now, I can't encourage people to use the "PendingUpload" flag...because we never find it again [11:16] \sh, siretart: \sh wants to put UniverseCandidates on the support tracker - i just said, that we *then* needed filtering [11:17] dholbach: filtering in malone works by creating a new group for the task, and assigning bugs to that group === dholbach wonders who will be in the MOTUReviewers team :( [11:17] <\sh> dholbach: u know that support tracker is something else...and it's not possible right now, to file support request against a team...that's what we have to change [11:17] dholbach: I will [11:17] dholbach: I think we should to it both for .debdiff attachments and for UniverseCandidates [11:17] dholbach: thats easy [11:17] dholbach: some days I'd rather review stuff than burn through merges ;) [11:17] dholbach: the group ubuntu-developers will be in the MOTUReviewers Team [11:18] siretart: i don't think they want to be bothered by those "bugs" === ajmitch creates yet more merge work for MOTUs [11:18] dholbach: they will be not [11:18] dholbach: it is to get this list: http://launchpad.net/people/motureviewers/+assignedbugs [11:19] dholbach: thats the only reliable way for filtering bugs in malone for now [11:19] please list all the new teams on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTeams [11:20] ubuntu-developers will not be bugged by this list. in fact, it does not matter who joins this team. it is just for bug sorting === siretart is currently at work, but I will look after this this evening [11:20] thanks [11:20] if nobody does first [11:20] if nobody does earlier [11:20] siretart: and yes, the lower part of universeunmetdeps seems ready to go [11:20] does anyone object on the approach? [11:20] siretart: no [11:20] ok [11:21] siretart: we can't argue with a main uploader ;) [11:21] ajmitch: sorry? [11:21] don't worry, I was just kidding [11:21] (I mean, all 4 persons in this discussion are main uploads) [11:21] main uploaders [11:21] yep [11:21] ok [11:22] a good number of MOTUs are now [11:22] I think thats good [11:22] yes [11:22] it shows we're not just 2nd rate hacks :) [11:23] and that we do have a clue, even \sh :) [11:23] <\sh> hehehe [11:23] :) === ajmitch wonders when his upload will be acknowledged by katie [11:24] ubuntu has spoilt me with quick response times [11:25] argh [11:25] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [11:25] (Exit status 2) [11:25] f-spot_0.1.3-2_i386.changes has bad PGP/GnuPG signature! [11:25] signed with wrong key === ajmitch tries again [11:30] sigh, I forgot that debian doesn't clean the ftp queue after a bad upload === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] Heh === StevenK giggles at ajmitch. [11:34] ajmitch: jennifer on spohr is only every 20 minutes. [11:34] StevenK: after a few hundred uploads to ubuntu, where you can upload as fast as you want, it spoils you === StevenK is still waiting to be spoilt. ;-P [11:35] you'll get your turn === StevenK works on another merge. [11:35] ajmitch: Did you hear/see? offlineimap is in dapper. [11:35] Well, my offlineimap. [11:37] well done :) [11:40] But my address wasn't whitelisted, so I missed getting spoken to by Katie. === StevenK wuvs Katie. [11:40] I'm sure you didn't miss much [11:40] But ... but ... but ... my first message from the Ubuntu DAK install! [11:40] (Katie is part of the reason I started Linda, btw.) [11:41] just bug elmo each day to whitelist you :) [11:42] That may involve my key accidently disappearing from the keyring. :-) === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] heh [11:43] ok. no lunch for today [11:43] then you could have the fun of getting a new key & bugging elmo all over again === StevenK shivers. [11:45] hi === StevenK notes pingus doesn't need any work at all. [11:45] we've managed to get lots of syncs [11:45] which means a lighter workload next time round [11:45] yup, it seems [11:45] ajmitch: So I just ask elmo to sync pingus from unstable? [11:46] StevenK: if the ubuntu changes can be dropped, and the debian package works ok, then a MOTU can ask him [11:46] I think he ignores requests from non-MOTUs [11:46] Awww. === StevenK pouts. [11:46] Let me try the straight Debian packages. [11:46] it's an incentive to become onw [11:46] s/onw/one/ [11:47] Of course, but I don't want to get smacked down on my first attempt. [11:48] I'm going to create a motureviewers launchpad group now, okay? [11:48] oooh [11:48] Whee. [11:49] siretart: ok [11:49] will we need to join it, or is the group just a formality? [11:49] hm. it needs a contact email adress [11:49] universe-bugs :-P [11:49] another mailing list on tiber [11:50] StevenK: thats the problem: universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com is taken by the motu group === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:50] StevenK: and lp does not allow to use the same email address by 2 groups [11:50] Right. A sync isn't going to work. [11:50] okay, I'll create another mailling list on tiber, as ajmitch suggests [11:51] StevenK: good thing you didn't ask for one then [11:51] Well, geez, I was going to try building it first. [11:51] What do you think I am, a Mandrake developer? :-P [11:52] ah, mandrake.. === ajmitch has fond memories of that [11:52] *spit* === captain_cr [n=tehwa@203-214-45-75.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [11:53] StevenK: it was what drove me to debian === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] RedHat 7.0 sucking so hard drove me to hamm/slink. [11:54] I never installed it, I was on RedHat 6.{1,2} at the time. [11:54] I stayed with mandrake right through till potato [11:54] Dear me. [11:55] ajmitch: When did you become a DD? [11:56] start of this year [11:56] so I'm quite new :) [11:57] Received application: 2001-12-11 [11:58] azeem: yes, I went on hold for a little while === StevenK looks his up. [11:58] iirc you even sponsored 1 or 2 of my uploads [11:58] Received application: 2001-07-12 [11:58] ajmitch: me? I remember some gnu.net stuff or whatever that is called, yeah [11:59] yeah [11:59] or gnuenterprise? [11:59] dotgnu [11:59] right [11:59] jbailey sponsored most of my gnu enterprise uploads === StevenK tries to stop getting distracted by pingus and fix his wifes machine. [12:01] StevenK: before to test the package before requesting a sync [12:01] eh [12:01] s/before/be sure/ [12:02] azeem: It doesn't build anyway, so the point is moot. [12:02] ah [12:07] ajmitch: please proofread https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReviewers [12:10] siretart: looks good [12:10] :) [12:11] appreciate your work you -> appreciate the work you [12:12] my orthography really sucks. sorry :( [12:14] dholbach: now you and ubuntu-dev are administrators of that team [12:14] "the study or use of correct spelling", well well, better volcabularly than me :) [12:14] siretart: and you? [12:15] Riddell: :) [12:15] dholbach: and me :) === StevenK struggles to find a working floppy in the house. [12:18] dholbach: what about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToReview - I think that page can be deleted [12:19] oooh yeah, we decided on that MUCH earlier :) [12:19] :) [12:19] done [12:19] great [12:19] motunewpackages too [12:19] how to delete wiki pages, btw? [12:20] there's a dropdown menu [12:20] *selfslap* [12:20] how obvious [12:20] how recent is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseNewPackages ? [12:20] it's needed - i'm not discussing to throw it away :) [12:21] siretart: 'we have now a' is usually 'we now have a' [12:21] siretart: shall I just edit, or are you editing at the moment? [12:21] ajmitch: please edit it, yes [12:21] I'm not editing it atm [12:24] ok, done [12:24] Right. Who last uploaded clanlib? === ajmitch points fingers wildly [12:25] StevenK: problems with it? === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A64396.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] Yes. [12:26] linda is not happy with it? ;) [12:26] ajmitch: Either the libraries don't Provide the packages they Conflict/Replace, or libclanlib-dev's dependancy's need updating. [12:26] libclanlib-dev looks broken.. [12:26] (And there doesn't seem to be Provides anywhere) [12:26] And there *ought* to be. [12:27] why should there be Provides? [12:27] especially when there's an SONAME change [12:27] adding Provides is asking for trouble [12:29] ajmitch: Because the C++ transition says to put them in? [12:29] At least, I think it does. [12:30] I hope not [12:30] ok, libclanlib-dev does depend on 2c2 packages in debian [12:30] so it should depend on the 2c2a packages === StevenK nods. [12:30] When that happens, pingus can be synced. [12:31] ajmitch: You'll fix? [12:31] & then the patch for clanlib can be attached to #339157 [12:31] yeah [12:31] If I had upload rights, I'd do it. [12:33] done, will build, check & upload [12:34] one of the good things is that if we make mistakes, others can happily fix them :) [12:34] assuming they get caught before release === StevenK nods. [12:35] NMUs in debian still carry a bit of a stigma === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] siretart: can we subscribe to motu-reviewers? === dholbach did so === ajmitch is looking for somewhere to subscribe :) [12:47] I'm meaning to the mailing lsit [12:47] ah right [12:47] so that we see when people want stuff reviewed [12:47] instead of checking a page somewhere [12:48] StevenK: clanlib still building.. [12:48] Right. [12:48] I coulda built it faster. :-P [12:48] probably [12:48] I've got a slow box [12:48] ajmitch: I can show off ... [12:49] my box is > 3 years old now [12:50] it still pushes out packages, having 1GB RAM makes it bearable === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.12.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] ajmitch: So's this ... [12:53] ajmitch: of course you can, it is a public mailing list [12:53] siretart: sure, but where do I sign up? :) [12:53] ajmitch: I just linked the listinfo and web archives page [12:54] to MOTUReviewers [12:54] http://tauware.de/mailman/listinfo/motu-reviewers [12:54] ok, I see it now [12:54] I'm just blind === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] so am I [12:55] sometimes ;) [12:58] ajmitch: After clanlib is uploaded, how long does it take to hit the archive? [12:58] StevenK: cron.daily is run every 15 minutes [12:58] Or should I give up on it for tonight? === StevenK pays a little attention to the wriggly puppy on his lap. [12:59] StevenK: usually it takes about 1 or 2h to be on the mirrors, assuming that no NEW love is necessary (and package is not on dep-wait) [12:59] Who'd like pictures? :-) [12:59] wriggly puppy? [12:59] and it'll get uploaded in a few minutes [01:00] Yup. I have a 13 week old Manchester Terrier on my lap at the moment. [01:00] hah, nice :) === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-72-252.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/photos/puppy-151005/ [01:01] Those are a week or so old, and some of the shots are very crappy. [01:01] sweet :) [01:01] very nice [01:02]