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mister_robotoxychix: when i want to do extensive root work, i use "sudo -s" to start a root shell12:00
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lightbrightmister_roboto: thats risky12:00
sladenardchoille: is it sudo that is still asking for your password;  or gksudo (graphical sudo)12:00
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mister_robotolightbright: i agree, if you don't know unix and what you're doing12:00
xychixmister_roboto: i just su... i changed the root pass already, but almost every command i run should run as root12:00
ardchoillesladen: it was sudo in cli, but it doesn't do it now12:00
lightbrightmister_roboto: do you know what you are doing? :)12:00
DShepherdhi lightbright12:01
lightbrightanyway brb in 15mins ;)12:01
DShepherdlightbright: sup?12:01
mister_robotolightbright; been using unix for about 15 yrs12:01
xychixmister_roboto: this install is used as penetrationtesting (hacking) laptop.12:01
sladenardchoille: doesn't ask for a password?   (can I confirm, is that what you wanted?)12:01
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lightbrightDShepherd:  hello :) your clock not showing anymore?12:01
mister_robotolightbright: programming and running it12:01
SanneThe_Isle_of_Mark: ZynAdd runs :) But: you can use it with jack, if you start the jack daemon beforehand. If not, it uses oss emulation. Just so you know.12:01
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lightbrightmister_roboto: ok 15 years wow :) cool12:01
ardchoillesladen: yes, that is what I wanted :)12:01
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lightbrightanyway brb in 15mins :)12:01
maffjui'm trying to install multimedia codecs but ...12:01
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Kelsey23So, if I install KDE in Ubuntu, it won't erase GDM and I can use it along side of Gnome (like I can use XFCE and FluxBox along side Gnome), corect?12:01
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maffjue.g. apt-get install w32codecs gives E: Couldn't find package w32codecs12:01
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_jasonubotu, tell maffju about w32codecs12:02
joefishis kde in the 'core packages' or in universe?12:02
mister_robotoxychix: sorry but don't know offhand the easy ubuntu way to boot straight to text. someone here will know though.12:02
_jason!info kde-desktop12:02
Kelsey23anyone?12:02
joefishmaffju you need to add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list12:02
joefishdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main12:02
xychixmister_roboto: thats booting to another init level :) but at this moment i want root in the gdm12:03
Taliskercan I use apt-cache to search inside the description of packages installed on my system?12:03
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topyliKelsey23: they will both be there, and you can switch between them through the alternatives system12:03
maffjuthanks, I followed http://ubuntuguide.org/ but that wasn't mentioned12:03
mister_robotoxychix: just setting the password on the root account doesn't work?  (haven't tried it)12:03
joefishubotu tell joefish about w32codecs12:03
wickaftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:03
xychixmister_roboto: nope i did that12:03
_jason!info kubuntu-desktop12:03
ubotukubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB12:03
xychixthen it tells me root cannot login on console12:03
Madpilot!tell maffju about ubuntuguide12:04
wickaI wish I could use that, but I can't, because it's i386 and I'm running amd64.12:04
HrdwrBoBwicka: so install i38612:04
mister_roboto!root12:04
ubotusomebody said root was rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:04
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HrdwrBoBeither in a chroot or just in there12:04
wickaI tried.12:04
xychixubotu: sudo /bin/sh :)12:05
ubotuNot a clue, xychix12:05
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wickaIt basically said wrong arch.12:05
mister_robotoxychix: gotta be a config to fix that (console login) but dunno where12:05
blankyget i38612:05
xychixmister_roboto: i'll just kill init op to level 6 (graphical)12:05
blankywhat type of processor do you have12:05
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wickaThe only reason I'm using Linux is because it actually takes advantage of 64-bit.12:05
blankywicka, what cpu do you have12:05
blankyah, that12:05
wickaAthlon 64 3000+12:05
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blankyyou must get x86-6412:05
maffjuthanks12:05
blankyor I THINK its i68612:06
HrdwrBoBblanky: no12:06
mister_robotoxychix: default graphical login in ubuntu is runlevel 212:06
HrdwrBoBno you don't12:06
HrdwrBoBthat's a huge pile of crap12:06
blankyoh yeah, it works anyways I forgot12:06
blankyand yeah12:06
RaydenUnihello12:06
HrdwrBoByou *CAN* run 64bit12:06
RaydenUnidoes ubuntu come with SATA drivers?12:06
HrdwrBoBRaydenUni: yes12:06
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blankybut wicka wants to take advantage of 6412:06
xychixmister_roboto: ugh ... ok  that not normal12:06
xychixi'll figure it out12:06
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mister_robotoxychix: yeah, felt funny to me too at first but that's how it is12:06
HrdwrBoBblanky: yes but there is very little advantage12:06
cliebow_anyone know what pkgs slapd needs for dbd?12:07
RaydenUnii currently have my hard drive partitioned into two parts, both NTFS, any problem installing ubuntu on only one of those?12:07
wickaDon't tell me that.12:07
RaydenUnianything i should be aware of?12:07
blankyyeah, see12:07
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mister_robotoxychix: u can use "runlevel" command to see where you're at12:07
xychix2 indeed12:07
doofyRaydenUni, if you have no free space yea, theres a problem12:07
sethkwicka, HrdwrBoB is correct, you can certainly run the i386 on that hardware12:07
lexhiderWhat's the current gnome default [upstream]  for nautilus? spatial or browser?12:07
Kelsey23what is the apt-get name for KDE, I'm not sure and I refuse to use Synaptic12:07
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RaydenUnii want to format over one of them, cause you can't run NTFS with linux right?12:07
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mister_robotoxychix: gotta go for a bit.  GL12:08
ramza3what is the log for checking the rc[0-6]  services start? I am looking at /var/log/boot and it doesnt exist12:08
doofyRaydenUni, correct.12:08
DShepherdlexhider: for breezy, not sure.. I use browser...12:08
xychixlater12:08
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mymayerwhich is the current best/good latex editor ?12:08
xychixmister_roboto: tnx for the help :)12:08
smolexhider; last I looked, upstream use spatial12:08
RaydenUnii want to format one, and leave the other, cause it has data on it12:08
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doofyRaydenUni, when you are installing you can delete one of the NTFS partitions then allow auto partition to use that free space12:08
sladenmymayer: not sure.  try  lyx12:08
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RaydenUniok, cool12:08
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doofyRaydenUni, just make sure you know which one you are deleting12:09
builder_is there an itunes clone for ubuntu?12:09
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RaydenUnii have never installed linux before and my roommate left leaving me to do it alone :P12:09
samu2mymayer, i just started using kile tonight, and it works fine12:09
Kelsey23what is the apt-get name for KDE, I'm not sure and I refuse to use Synaptic12:09
terrygaohey guys12:09
blankyRaydenUni, wow, you're a genious12:09
RaydenUni?12:09
samu2Kelsey23, isnt that kubuntu-desktop ? and why would you refuse to use synaptic?12:09
ramza3is it messages?12:09
wickaSo here is my question, my friend is using Ubuntu as well, and he got his sound working without doing all this bullshit with the codecs.12:09
doofySynaptic rocks :)12:10
terrygaoubuntu does not work well with KDE12:10
joefishkelsey23 - i think it's just apt-get install kde12:10
wickaSo all I want, is to get my sound card working.12:10
Kelsey23Ok12:10
doofywicka what are you trying to get sound out of?12:10
terrygaotry the kde version of ubuntu12:10
joefishterrygao - why not?  what happens?  i'm new to ubuntu (used to use debian)12:10
blankyKelsey23, it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , it's a metapackage so it's hell to uninstall, just use deporphan (or is it depfoster)12:10
terrygaoit works out of the box12:10
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samu2builder, i think thythmbox and amarok are the most famous ones. i dont think either one really compares either though :)12:10
wickaSB Live 24-bit12:10
terrygaohey joe12:10
blankysup bob12:11
DShepherd!tell Kelsey23 about kde12:11
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joefish! tell joefish about kde12:11
ubotujoefish: Are you smoking crack?12:11
wickadoofy: SB Live! 24-bit12:11
terrygaoubuntu developers made a concious decision to bundle gnome with gnome and some of the configurations will break if you use the kde dm12:11
doofywicka, it should work right out of the box. Are you trying to play music or what?12:11
DShepherd!tell joefish about kde12:11
joefishterrygao: what works out of the box, you mean kde on kubuntu?12:11
ramza3anybody know how the roller service is setup for ubuntu12:11
terrygaoyeah12:11
DShepherdjoefish: no space between ! and joefish12:12
wickadoofy: Well yes, but my main goal is to get the system sounds and Gaim sound effects to work.12:12
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wickaAnd that is the problem, it NEVER works out of the box.12:12
wickaEVER.12:12
ramza3terrygao: is there a /etc/roller.d directory12:12
blanky#gnome is asleep, so I hope you guys know :) , How can I make the icons on my desktop smaller? not individually (stretch) but all of them12:12
doofyKelsey23, if your trying to install KDE with Ubuntu check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%2912:12
InitMasswhich is the best way to get mplayer into Breezy? my gxine dies very often when trying to play wmv files from nautilus. but when opening with gxine from terminal it works just fine. even the same .wvm file works sometimes and sometimes not12:12
wickaI've used at least 3-4 different distros, with two different sound cards and two different onboard chips, and sound has never worked.,12:12
blankywicka: it doesnt right now?12:12
wickaNot at all.12:13
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blankywhat's the name of your sound card12:13
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wickaSoundblaster Live 24-bit12:13
doofyKelsey23, did you check that link?12:13
wickaIn fact, I would go so far as to say I have negative sound.12:13
Sedgeonce i've mounted a secondary hard drive.... how do i make it so i can write to it? :P12:13
wickaThat's how bad it is.12:13
blanky!google soundblaster live 24 ubuntu12:13
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, blanky12:13
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doofySedge, what type of partition is it?12:13
topyliwicka: perhaps your sound card is broken :)12:13
blankyshutup ubotu12:13
Sedgeprimary, ext312:13
wickaIt works in Windows.12:13
samu2would be really nice if people didnt have to worry about kde vs gnome12:14
fredforfaen!dvd12:14
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:14
blankyof course it does12:14
joefishDShepherd ta :)12:14
doofySedge, if its mounted you should be able to write to it12:14
Sedgehrm12:14
solidgrooveblanky system-prefrences-file management-12:14
DShepherdjoefish: no problem12:14
solidgroovezoom level for icons12:14
wickaThere aer reasons why people still use Windows; this is one of them.12:14
blankyfor using dvds try automatix, !google ubuntu automatix12:14
blankysolidgroove, thanks12:14
doofySedge, you can't?12:14
joefishanyone..... what is the easiest way to transcode _into_ wmv files, is there any package that does it?12:14
Sedgenope12:14
topylisamu2: you worry about it? it's not very common you know :)12:14
Sedgei mounted it to /media/storage12:14
wickaI tried to install ALSA (again), and it didn't even work.12:14
InitMasswhich is the best way to get mplayer into Breezy? my gxine dies very often when trying to play wmv files from nautilus. but when opening with gxine from terminal it works just fine. even the same .wvm file works sometimes and sometimes not12:15
wickaGave me some compilier error crap.12:15
doofyare you trying to write to it as a user or as sudo root?12:15
DShepherdjoefish: why would you want to12:15
DShepherd?12:15
Sedgejust as a user12:15
blankywicka12:15
Sedgei want to use it for storage12:15
doofySedge, try it as sudo12:15
Sedgeof whatever files12:15
blankysudo apt-get install build-essential12:15
Sedgei'm using the gui and trying to just copy / paste12:15
blankyif you dont want to type all that type12:15
Kelsey23So I don't want Kubuntu at all, I just want the ability to switch between KDE and Gnome and XFCE, like in a few other distros. Is thid possible in Ubunut?12:15
doofySedge, see if you can cp some files to it using sudo root12:15
blankyalias aptinst='sudo apt-get install'12:15
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blankyaptinst build-essential12:15
blankyKelsey23, you mean switchdesk?12:16
doofyKelsey23, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE12:16
joefishDShepherd - it's actually got good compression... our site www.BallOfDirt.com has video on it, but each one uses its own codecs... so we want to standardize and make the server transcode to a useful format... if it's not wmv then maybe xvid (although that involves installing extra stuff for more users)12:16
wickablanky: doing the first one.12:16
wickaAh that's done now.12:16
blankyKelsey23, you can, just log out and then click sessions and choose yours12:16
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blankywicka, glad it is12:16
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wickaI think I follow.12:16
wickaHold on.12:16
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joefishKelsey23 - the display manager (kdm or gdm for instance) usually offers you the choice if you have the other desktops installed12:17
Sedgeseems to work that way doofy, but i want to be able to do that from the gui, without having to use the CLI12:17
devintis there a way to perform a lossless mp3 to ogg conversion12:17
devint?12:17
aedeswhen I use sudo what pass should I put in? the root?12:17
blankyKelsey23, just log out, click sessions, and choose your choice12:17
DShepherdjoefish: ok i dont know if you will find a program that ubuntu has that transcode to wmv,,, try uncle google12:17
blankychoose your choice, how retarted12:17
blankyKelsey23, NO DONT DO IT12:17
wickaGAH12:17
doofySedge, gotcha alright, just one second12:17
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blankyKelsey23, if you want to switch desktops, just log out, oh you want something faster?12:17
blankylog out IS kinda fast...but you want something like switchdesk you say?12:17
joefishDShepherd - i would prefer to use divx or xvid as a standard, but since the basic user needs to install extra stuff, it's not possible :-/12:17
blankyKelsey23, what window managers do you have installed12:18
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blankyKelsey23, okay, what window managers do you have installed; gnome...12:18
blankyokay12:18
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cryptronhow are the 64bit compatibiliti for amd athlons cpu's12:18
blankyyou're in gnome right now?12:18
pr3vi0uzjust use 3ddesktop thats even faster12:18
joefishdevint - i think by nature mp3 and ogg have subtlely different psycho-acousitc compression algorithms12:18
joefishdevint - the best way would be from very high bitrate mp3 to lower bitrate ogg... or better still from wav12:18
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blankyKelsey23, do you know if you're running GDM for login?12:19
wickaALSA is still not compiling.12:19
blankyKelsey23, I want you to do this: log out, then click sessions and select gnome, that should switch you to gnome12:19
dhashenhi-have a wierd problem where cannot load back into ubuntu after dual boot to xp12:19
mymayersladen: so i want usefull one, not only consol hacking. Syntax highlighting, completition and stuff12:19
blankyif it doesn't/does work, come back and let me know12:19
doofySedge, what directory did you say you had it mounted to?12:19
Vlad1cryptron- I'm useing a 64-bit processor and it works great!12:19
Sedgei mounted it to /media/storage12:19
tritiumdevint, there is no lossless mp3 to ogg conversion at all12:19
blankyKelsey23, you do know what KDE is right? I thought you said you didn't want KDE12:19
devintdamn12:20
wickaVlad1, you're using x86-64 and it's all working fine?12:20
blankyyou just wanted to switch window managers by logging out12:20
Vlad1yes12:20
tritiumlossy -> lossy conversion just gets worse12:20
Sedgeit shows up on the desktop by mounting things in /media i believe12:20
blankyKelsey23, okay so I dont quite understand what you want12:20
wickaI am too and it works, but I have no sound.12:20
infamusanyone here know how to properly install wine?12:20
blankyokay, so what do you want12:20
wickaI can't install what Ubuntu refers to as "the codecs" because they are only available as i386.12:20
blankyinfamus: sudo apt-get install wine ; winecfg12:20
Vlad1wicka- thats usually a sound card issue12:20
joefishinfamus - get crossover office :)12:20
doofySedge, sudo chmod 777 /media/storage12:20
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blankyinfamus, that costs money (do they have cvs?)12:21
joefishinfamus - i spotted it on gnutella recently, if you're too tight to pay the starving geniuses ;)12:21
Vlad1wicka- do you have a sound card or is your sound on the mother board12:21
RaydenUniis there an ubuntu install guide?12:21
Sedgeok doofy12:21
blankyKelsey23, okay that's easy12:21
doofySedge, that will give full permissions to everyone on that directory12:21
wickaVlad1: sound card.12:21
doofySedge, then you should be good12:21
Sedgeaight12:21
Sedgethx doofy12:21
wickaI tried it with my mobo sound, it didn't work either.,12:21
blankyKelsey23, go into gnome, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then while it's installing a window will come up asking you which you want to use12:21
doofySedge, No problem. If you have any other problems feel free to ask :)12:21
blankyjust select GDM like I did :D12:21
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Sedgethanks ;)12:21
joefishinfamus, if you're really stuck i might be able to help... joe@penski.net12:21
Vlad1wicka- the soundcard maynot be compatible with linux, usually when it doesint work, there is no Linux driver for it installed....12:21
Sedgejust trying to get used to how linux (and unix i guess) deal with these sorts of issues12:22
blankyhey how do you do bold text12:22
joefishinfamus - but had a HD failure, so give me a day or two to respond12:22
blankybold12:22
Sedgei dumped windows about 2 weeks ago12:22
blankyWOW12:22
doofySedge, good choice12:22
Vlad1yeah12:22
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Sedgeso far i've been able to do everything fine in linux12:22
wickaI dumped Windows 4 and a half hours ago.12:22
blankyer...ahem12:22
Sedgealbeit with a little learning12:22
wickaAnd I have no sound.12:22
Kelsey23I haven't used Windows in forever :-)12:22
blankywicka: dont worry, we'll help12:22
blankyname of sound card again?12:22
Sedgeonly thing i've run into is my WoW performance is kinda shoddy compared to windows12:22
dhashencan anyone help with boot problem?12:22
wickaSoundblaster Live 24-bit12:22
Kelsey23*nix is what I like :-)12:22
lightbrightblanky: hello :)12:22
Sedgebut i do have an ATI video card12:22
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RaydenUnithe partition screen doesn't make sesne, what is "Configure the Logical Volume Manager?"12:22
Vlad1wicka- does your motherboard have onboard sound?12:22
wickaYeah12:22
blankysup lightbright, I got it to work :P12:23
lightbrightim back, who missed me? :)12:23
joefishSedge: what's the main difficulty encountered so far?12:23
doofySedge, you shold learn quickly. One of the big things in linux is file permissions (thats what you just changed) if you want to read up a little bit on it read http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html12:23
DShepherdKelsey23: really wel you havent missed much :-D12:23
wickaIt seems like the last four times I tried Linux people were douchebags/.12:23
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lightbrightblanky: what to work?12:23
InitMasswhich is the best way to get mplayer into Breezy? my gxine dies very often when trying to play wmv files from nautilus. but when opening with gxine from terminal it works just fine. even the same .wvm file works sometimes and sometimes not12:23
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blankydvd playing :D12:23
wickaHey I managed to get X working by myself though.12:23
blankywicka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930712:23
Sedgeyeah i understand the file permissions model with the XXX and the sticky bit etc...12:23
Vlad1wicka- I'm trying to help you!12:23
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Sedgejust some basic things like mounting drives.. using fstab etc...12:23
wickaYeah I know.12:23
DShepherdKelsey23: been the same way for almost 5 years now :-D12:23
wickaIt's weird.12:23
lightbrightblanky: yipee :)  so what was missing?12:23
blankywicka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930712:23
wickaNobody ever helped...last year.12:23
blankyWICKA YOU RETARD12:23
doofySedge, sounds like you've learned a fair amount12:23
Vlad1wicka- try plugging your speakers into the motherboard sound and see if that works...12:23
awtomlinsoncan anyone recommend any good data recovery software?12:23
blankywicka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930712:23
wickaGuys I'm not talking about you.12:23
blankyI know dude12:24
wickaAnd I am going to that link, thank you.12:24
blankyI'm just telling you the link12:24
Sedge;)12:24
blankyno problem, let me know what happens12:24
Sedgelast time i used linux was about 3 years ago, and i picked up a bit then12:24
lightbrightwicka: be nice and ppl are nice to you!  treat people like a fool, and they wont want to help you12:24
doofyawtomlinson, http://ebcd.pcministry.com/12:24
doofycheck that out12:24
blankyif you need anymore help MSN blankdev@gmail.com AIM msniswaybetter12:24
Sedgebut ubuntu has been far more user friendly than the mandrake 7.2 i was using back then12:24
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lightbrightblanky:  so what was missing?  how did you get the dvd to play?12:24
wickaI wasn't trying to treat anyone like a fool.12:24
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Vlad1ubuntu has been the most user friendly distro I have EVER used.....12:25
QalimasIs it possible to have Xubuntu's (Xfce) windows flash in the taskbar?12:25
wickaI am also eating applesauce, that slows down my response time.12:25
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doofySedge, you having trouble with your ATI card?12:25
joefishawtomlinson: from a hard disk crash?12:25
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blankywicka: if you know spanish, this might be better http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/274712:25
Sedgedoofy, got 3d working, it's great in native linux games, but in WoW my performance is pretty shoddy using opengl12:25
angel_anyone of you guys able to complie and run Proximodo... http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12403512:25
doofySedge, yep. Native games rock. Emulation is eh...12:25
blankylightbright: I restarted...heh12:25
awtomlinsonjoefish, no sure if the hard drive crashed.  i was having xorg issues & would only get a blank screen.  i had to reinstall breezy.  when i mount my /home partition, some of my directories display as an unknown file type with an unknown size12:26
Sedgei had to recompile wine for a wow fix, but that wasn't so bad12:26
Sedgeit runs super stable12:26
wickablanky: I actually took four years of French, but I can't speak that either.12:26
Sedgejust about 50% lower in fps than windows12:26
holycow*ooooo*12:26
blankyhaha, cool. I'm barely learning french12:26
RaydenUniwhen installing ubuntu i am at the "partition discs" page, should i see some partitions already?12:26
lightbrightblanky: so what we did worked, you just needed to restart Ubuntu?12:26
holycowff 1.5 uses gnome chooser!12:26
holycowyey!12:26
wickaBy the way everyone, don't eat apple sauce and use Linux, it's hard.12:26
dhashenanyone please?12:26
blankywicka: just do the bold stuff and replace what you need with your stuff12:26
joefishawtomlinson: i just had a HD go faulty recently12:26
blankydhashen, you're welcome12:26
dhashenthank you12:27
joefishawtomlinson: i rescued a bunch of data, creating an image of the partition separately12:27
blankyjoefish: what brand12:27
QalimasIs it possible to have Xubuntu's (Xfce) windows flash in the taskbar?12:27
doofySedge, what all have you tried native?12:27
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dhashendown some searching on google etc12:27
blankyjoefish, try and zero it, worked for me12:27
joefishblanky: ibm thinkstar (thinkpad laptop one)12:27
dhashenbut can't find this fault12:27
awtomlinsonjoefish, what software did you use to create the image?12:27
blankylightbright: yeah...haha12:27
Sedgewell, i downloaded the demos of Darwinia and Uplink, both great games from what i can see12:27
blankyo...check their site they should have hard drive utitlities12:27
joefishawtomlinson: get the package ddrescue12:27
Sedgewould like to get the full versions, but there's some issues with their website12:27
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joefishawtomlinson: i think it's in universe, you know how to?12:27
dhashenubuntu boots fine until boot into xp, then ubuntu root partition will not boot on next reboot12:27
lightbrightblanky: lol :)12:27
blankytry and find an app that can zero your drive joefish12:27
mweichertall I have to say is ... "wow"12:28
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mweichertthis is a great distro guys!12:28
blankywicka: hows it goin12:28
infamusblanky, that didnt work....12:28
Sedgeand i've got UT2k4 and NwN running perfectly12:28
Sedgewith great performance12:28
blankyyeah, same here sedge, better than with windows...surprisingly12:28
doofySedge, thats awesome12:28
blankyand I have frickin ATI!12:28
blanky9800pro, I think it's cause their drivers are getting better12:28
infamusblanky: i DLed the wine installer zip file frome winehq.org12:28
joefishblanky - i might give that a try, but it makes bad noises too :-/12:28
Sedgeyep ATI here too BlankC12:28
awtomlinsonyeah, i know how to install it, but is it terminal or gui?12:28
Sedgeerr balnky12:28
blankyinfamus12:28
ardchoilleAnyone know where I can find a how-to on building packages/binaries for Ubuntu 5.10?12:28
Sedgeblanky12:28
Vlad1whats wrong with ATI?12:28
doofyblanky, better then with windows?? nice!12:28
blankyinfamus: stop, dont do anything12:28
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infamusblanky: ok12:29
joefishawtomlinson: i managed to recover all my data :D12:29
blankynothing's wrong with ATI, no one ever said there was anything wrong with ATI12:29
wickablanky: I finished my apple sauce and I am starting the steps from Ubuntu Forums.12:29
awtomlinsonif its terminal, i need help12:29
Sedgeyeah my ut2k4 and nwn performance are about double in ubuntu than windows12:29
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Sedgehistorically ATI didn't have decent linux support12:29
Vlad1I like Nvidia12:29
blankyardchoille, what do you mean, compiling apps?12:29
Sedgealthough they are getting better12:29
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joefishawtomlinson: the software is called dd_rescue and there is a good helper problem here http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html12:29
ardchoilleblanky: no, making .deb's12:29
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blankywicka: okay, if anything goes wrong read the replies, they should fix anything12:29
mweicherthey buys, I'm trying to setup a ltsp server over here. I'm just curious - what does ltsp-build-client actually do? I see it's downloading packages.12:29
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blankyardchoille, ah, developer here are we :P I'm not sure bud, sorry, I'm sure the deb command can do it12:29
blankyinfamus hold on bud12:30
blankylet me get you help12:30
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blankyer, why the heck does windows have wine for it12:30
mweichert*guys :)12:30
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joefishawtomlinson: once you have extracted the data from e.g. /dev/hda2 to a file (on another drive of course!) you can then mount that as a loop and do stuff like fsck it12:30
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ardchoilleblanky: not really a dev, but I like to learn as much as I can about the distro I run12:30
foxgamerHi all. How can I tell what my ethernet card is?12:30
infamusblanky: lol, ok, im hangin12:31
Sedgedoofy, chmod 777 /media/storage didn't work for me12:31
Vlad1blanky- those are windows dll's not wine for windows12:31
blankyardchoille, ah, let me get you alink12:31
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Sedgestill can't cut / paste within the gui12:31
DShepherdjoefish: what did you use to recover your data?12:31
blankyinfamus: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb12:31
blankyfollow those instructions12:31
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sethkfoxgamer, lspci will probably show it12:31
mweichertfoxgamer: lspci12:31
blankyinfamus: you ARE running ubuntu right? I mean, cause the zip on taht site is for windows...12:31
Vlad1blanky- i never got that to work for wine12:31
awtomlinsoni'm kinda lost.  anything with a gui?12:31
foxgamerIt doesn't show anything along those lines.12:31
WebMavenGMachine_24: still  no luck.12:31
infamusblanky: yeah im running ubuntu12:31
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doofySedge, sudo chmod 777 /media/storage12:32
lightbrightblanky: so what did we learn?  to REBOOT :)12:32
Sedgeyeah i did sudo12:32
doofysudo is key on that one :P12:32
blankyVlad1, er, what?12:32
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doofySedge, hmm12:32
GMachine_24web: that's ........too bad12:32
Sedgestill no luck12:32
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blankyVlad1, what didnt you get to work bud?12:32
doofySedge, you said that it is ext3?12:32
nightvis1onsup guys12:32
blankylightbright, yeah haha12:32
Sedgeyup12:32
blankysup nightvis1on12:32
Sedgethat's what i formatted it as12:32
WebMavenGMachine_24: running the setup produces a semi-legible screen, which I can navigate, but I think part of the problem is it can't tell I have an LCD.12:32
nightvis1onI am having trouble setting up my wifi network12:32
Vlad1blanky- I followed what it says on wine's website, it still doesint work...12:32
Sedgenot sure what the differences in the filesystems were12:32
RaydenUnii need installation help, when installing and trying to partition. at the page where it says "[!!]  Partition disks" should i see some partitions on there?12:32
nightvis1onanyone set up wifi before?12:32
lightbrightblanky: :)12:32
dhashenblanky:can you help?12:32
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blankydhashen, what's your prob bud?12:33
GMachine_24web: so "x" starts?12:33
doofySedge, you've got me stumped :( ask again someone else may know12:33
wickablanky: "You don't have the compiler that your kernel was built with installed" error12:33
WebMavenGMachine_24: the setup screens have odd non-latin chars as borders all around.12:33
dhashenubuntu will not boot back up after booting into winbugs12:33
aedesI'm using 5.10, and when I type in the root pass for "sudo ls" (a test) and it doesn't accept it, but if I type in the pass for the current user it just quits without running the program and any further attempts to use sudo exit before asking a pass until I terminate the session12:33
blankyVlad1,  so you followed the instructions on http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb but it didnt work?12:33
WebMavenGMachine_24: no.12:33
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Vlad1blanky- yep12:33
aedeshas anyone else experienced this problem?12:33
Sedgedoofy, not a big deal i guess, command line is often faster for moving stuff around... it'd just be nice to know12:33
sklavwhich filesystems sedge?12:33
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lightbrightVlad1: maybe you didnt12:33
blankyhold on Vlad1 are you registere? /query blanky12:33
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GMachine_24web: well it does sound like a graphics problem . . .12:33
doofySedge, I agree12:33
WebMavenGMachine_24:  on startup, the machine tells me that GDM can't start X.12:34
GMachine_24web: right12:34
blankyanyone who has probs and wants help, register yourself and /query blanky12:34
Sedgesklav, my secondary SATA drive is formatted with ext3, mounted to /media/storage, i can't copy / paste from within the gui12:34
blankycause I cant talk to you all at once like this12:34
Vlad1never mind12:34
blankyVlad1,12:34
dhashendual boot setup - reboots fine until boot into winbugs and then won't load root partition12:34
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_jasonaedes, sudo should use the current password12:34
wickablanky: I'm reading the replies but there are like 7 pages.12:34
WebMavenGMachine_24: Not sure how to proceed.12:34
Vlad1blanky- what?12:34
blankywhat was your problem bud? you couldnt find the wine package? or it did install12:34
lightbrightVlad1: user error12:34
blankywicka yeah hold on bud12:34
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nightvis1onI cant get my iwconfig to reckgnize my wireless network12:34
Vlad1NEVER MIND12:34
blankyVlad1, you said you couldnt get wine to work12:34
dhashengoogle and forums show the opposite happening so I don't know how to approach this12:35
blankydhashen, so you cant boot into ubuntu?12:35
dhashenyeah12:35
blankywhen you start your computer it's only windows12:35
blankyhold on man12:35
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joefishwhat is Plan B?12:35
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nightvis1ongrub's not working12:35
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dhashenlooks like winbugs does something to grub12:35
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dhashenbut i don't know what12:35
martin__hi12:35
blankydhashen, hold on man12:36
dhashenok12:36
DShepherdhi12:36
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aedes_jason, ok, and I guess its then caching that I've entered a corrent pass, but it doesn't run the app12:36
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martin__i12:36
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martin__i've got some questions can anyone help?12:36
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_jasonaedes, what apps have you tried12:36
joefishmartin__: go ahead12:36
naliothmartin__: only if you ask them12:36
wickablanky: nm I think I found a fix12:36
nightvis1onI cannot dual boot my windows now that I have installed ubuntu even though they were seperate partitions and it is displayed as a bootable partition at start by grub12:36
nightvis1onits gay12:37
joefishmartin__: around here you just butt in with your question ;)12:37
blankywicka: glad you did bud12:37
aedes_jason, right now I'm tryiong: sudo update-manager12:37
nightvis1onIt says there was a problem configuring my disks12:37
WebMavenGMachine_24: Further suggestions?12:37
tritiumnightvis1on, that's not a nice choice of an adjective12:37
foxgamerlspci doesn't show me any ethernet information, but using ifconfig shows that eth0 and lo are set up12:37
KumaSannightvis1on, what version of MS-Windows?12:37
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blankydhashen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:37
martin__mkay, I'm using a laptop and the first day after installing Ubuntu 5.10 i had the power meter on my panel12:37
nightvis1onsry tritium12:37
lightbrightmartin__: no need to ask if you can ask :P12:37
nightvis1onWindowsXP12:37
GMachine_24web: not really12:37
topylidhashen: grub works? can does it try to boot linux?12:37
lightbrightmartin__: just ask12:37
blankydhashen, read that man, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:37
tritiumnightvis1on, no worries12:37
_jasonaedes, no errors, just a new command line?12:38
blankywicka did you get it to work?12:38
nightvis1onaight12:38
lightbrightDShepherd: do you still see clock on ubuntu boot?12:38
KumaSannightvis1on, yeah, XP is pretty gay :) What does the grub menu.lst say wrt the XP install?12:38
blankyvlad1 you there12:38
martin__but i accidentaly installed a different one, i think for ACPI support, and it all went away12:38
aedes_jason, correct12:38
Sedgeis dma enabled by default for devices in ubuntu?12:38
GMachine_24web: if you have a live install disk of breezy you can try that just to see if there is(are) some conflict(s) -- otherwise, I'd say search and post in the ubuntu forums.12:38
DShepherdlightbright: yeah.. I have tried the fix :)12:38
nightvis1on"wrt"?12:38
Hyper7G'day  -  whats the diff between the install and the live iso's ?12:38
GMachine_24web: if you've had this problem others no doubt have , too12:38
nightvis1onI installed Ubuntu after window12:38
KumaSanSedge, was for me, on Breezy and Dapper12:38
wickablanky: still making the pkg12:38
nightvis1on*windows12:38
lightbrightDShepherd: did it work?12:38
KumaSannightvis1on, wrt, with regard to,12:38
SedgeKumaSan, how can i check12:38
wickaWell I got past that one problem, yeah.12:38
infamusblanky: i follow the instructions up to opening the synaptic manager then clickong settings->repositories but the option to add a repositroty  in custom isnt there12:38
blankywicka: you still following the instructiosn or what?12:38
nightvis1onahh12:38
DShepherdlightbright: I just ctrl+c when I cant wati12:38
KumaSanSedge, sudo hdparm /dev/hda (or whatever drive)12:39
WebMavenok, I'll try the live disk.12:39
dhashenblanky:thank you! will have a look - can you explain why this happens?12:39
_jasonaedes, strange, is it only with gnome apps? can you do "sudo nano"?12:39
blankyinfamus: you're runninb breezy 5.10?12:39
lightbrightDShepherd: so you still see synchronizing clock?12:39
DShepherdyup.....12:39
blankybecause you installed windows after ubuntu...or wait, did you?12:39
blankyI'm not sure man12:39
blankylol12:39
dhashenno12:39
nightvis1onKumasan: It says something about read the manual about configuring disks12:39
martin__there's no icon left in the taskbar, but the power stays on when I'm on battery, but I'd like to know how much power I have left12:39
blankydhashen, you better have a livecd with you man12:39
DShepherdI didnt try the fix though..12:39
dhasheninstalled breezy over winbugs12:39
blankyinfamus: you're runninb breezy 5.10?12:39
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dhashenyeah got that12:39
GMachine_24web: usually there is some fairly straightforward fix . . . you just have to find it.12:39
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SedgeKumaSan, what should the output from that hdparm command be?12:39
Sedgesomething regarding dma?12:39
blankyinfamus: hey dudeyou there...12:40
blankyI have to go...so hurry up12:40
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jonathonhello every time i open mplayer and play a file i get an error about "New_Face failed."12:40
infamusblanky: yeah, im runnin 5.1012:40
blankyclick settings -> repositotires12:40
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aedes_jason, hmm, actually using strace it seems that the program to execute must be setuid root12:40
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Sedge!dma12:40
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infamusblanky im going to to install throught the terminal12:40
KumaSannightvis1on, there should be an entry, something like title           Windows 95/98/Me12:40
KumaSanroot            (hd0,0)12:40
KumaSansavedefault12:40
KumaSanchainloader     +112:40
KumaSan only with XP12:40
lightbrightDShepherd: so you still see synchronizing clock at boot time?12:40
martin__well actually can someone just tell me the command to start the power manager and I"ll put it in startup12:41
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blankyinfamus: then click settings and check 'show disabled repositories'12:41
blankyinfamus: no dude12:41
RaydenUniwtf12:41
blankyinfamus: wait12:41
nightvis1onKumasan: and where is that file located?12:41
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blanky!pastebin12:41
DShepherdlightbright: yes. I didnt try the fix you gave me last time12:41
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:41
RaydenUniubuntu recognizes all 3 partitions with this ide plugged in, but when its only the sata it doesn't see any12:41
blankyinfamus: are you there12:41
aedes_jason, and its any program12:41
blankyinfamus I need you to respond man12:41
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KumaSanSedge,  there should be a listiting of parameters, one of wich is  using_dma    =  1 (on)12:41
KumaSan if dma is enabled12:41
lightbrightDShepherd: you told me you typed it :P12:41
sklavhey someone mentionned that kernel gets updated automatically threw apt-get12:41
sklavthat is not correct12:41
_jasonaedes, hmm don't know, maybe someone else can help12:41
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KumaSannightvis1on, /boot/grub/menu.lst12:42
SedgeKumaSan, yeah i don't have that particular line12:42
sklavthat is 2 times clean install i dont get the latest kernel after an update12:42
definityhi12:42
nightvis1onKumasan:thx, ill check it out12:42
DShepherdlightbright: i did? you sure? well I didnt :)12:42
nightvis1onKumasan: now what should i change the file to read?12:42
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KumaSanSedge,  not at all? odd, is it an ide drive?12:42
definityany one know where i can find some good tutorials for linux?12:42
nightvis1onKumasan: Im assuming what you posted earlier is what I change it to>?12:42
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aedes_jason, also what's weird is that in the strace sudo is writing to stderr, but I don't see anything12:43
SedgeSATA12:43
KumaSannightvis1on, ise there an entry for a windows install, similar to the one I posted?12:43
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nightvis1oni will check12:43
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nightvis1ontwo secs12:43
sklavso what is the proper method to get the kernel to update when running an apt-get upgrade12:43
SedgeKumaSan, i have 2 of them, 160gig Samsung SATA drives12:43
wickablanky: what was that link again?12:43
blankyer, give me your sound card name again12:43
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wickasoundblaster live 24-bit12:43
blankyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930712:43
lightbrightWhen I type apt-get upgrade, why does it say: The following packages have been kept back:12:43
lightbright  linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38612:43
lightbright ?12:43
martin__wow I just helped myself, that's funny12:43
wickaThanks12:44
martin__i've got it12:44
blankymartin__, good job man, not eveyrone has friends12:44
infamusblanky: dont worry, i installed through the terminal and everythinng went smoothly12:44
lightbrightmartin__: well done! :)12:44
blankyinfamus: glad it did12:44
phasegenanyone know of any good programs for converting wma to mp3?12:44
definityanyoen knw where i can get somne good tutorials12:44
KumaSanSedge, I think sata drives are handled as SCSI, and not ide, thus no hdparm stuff. It should be handled directly by the driver, out of my experience there, I don't have any sata drives. sorry12:44
lightbrightcan someone please tell me WHY when I type apt-get upgrade, why does it say: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 ?12:44
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SedgeKumaSan, ok, thx12:44
nightvis1onKumasan: yes12:44
Sedgejust seems the system bogs a bit if i'm doing a large copy and then opening apps etc..12:44
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djm62lightbright: because something they depend upon can't be upgraded?12:45
GMachine_24web: are you still here?12:45
nightvis1onKumasan: I just opened that file and at the bottom there is a similar setup12:45
KumaSanlightbright, something is holding them back, probably an update to some required package that isn't complete yet.12:45
lightbrightdjm62: im asking you :)12:45
lightbrightKumaSan: Update manager wants to download them12:45
KumaSannightvis1on,  does the setup point to the right partition for the windows install?12:45
djm62lightbright: if you're asking me what it is, I couldn't tell you12:45
lightbrightKumaSan: whats the fix?12:45
WebMavenGMachine_24: yes.12:45
infamusblanky: im stupid, what did you want me to do again? my way didnt work12:45
lightbrightdjm62: ok12:46
nightvis1onKumasan: yes Im sure its correct12:46
WebMavenGMachine_24: it looks like the live CD boots fine.12:46
blankyinfamus: how do you know it didn't work12:46
nightvis1onwait12:46
GMachine_24web: read this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94864&highlight=GDM12:46
blankydid you type wine?12:46
KumaSanlightbright,  you can either do a dist upgrade, which will clean up most of that, or wait until it's updated in the manager,12:46
nightvis1onyill check12:46
sklavweird my system wotn upgrade kernel period12:46
pppoe_dudecan i edit /etc/firestarter/inbound/forward to include a line like Unknown, 10000-60000, 192.168.0.121, 10000-60000,12:46
GMachine_24to make sure you have a virtual link from gdm to x12:46
sklavi have to manually select them12:46
KumaSannightvis1on, where does the XP boot bomb out?12:46
blankyinfamus if you want help listen to me12:46
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blankyand respond when I talk to you12:46
blankygo into synaptic12:46
pppoe_dude(as in ports 10000-60000 are to be forwarded)12:46
blankysettings > repositotires12:47
nightvis1onKumasan: im afraid i dont understand your question12:47
blanky*repositories12:47
Astxisteww that's alot of ports :12:47
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KumaSanlightbright, the restricted modules are for things like nvidia binary drivers, and wireless firmware. If you don't need/use them, you can ignore it for now.12:47
lightbrightKumaSan: dist upgrade? but im using 5,1012:47
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blankyclick settings, check Show disabled software resources12:47
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KumaSannightvis1on, you say that XP won't boot? at what stage does it fail?12:47
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nightvis1onKumasan: could you please rephrase your question12:47
martin__ okay that's all fixed, now I'm just curious about a good wifi manager to scan for APs and tell me the signal strength and such, and I want one better than the built in one12:47
xoredwhat do i need for emacs, to do some latex ?12:47
blankythen click okay, then click add on the software repositories window, and click the custom button12:47
sajferhello. my comp freezes at "starting periodic command scheduler" but i can login via ssh. how do i change it or remove it from the startup?12:47
pppoe_dudeAstxist, maybe less ports, but can i do that? like put a range? coz in the gui it doesnt let me12:47
topylisklav: install a metapackage like linux-image-<arch> and it will always depend on the latest kernel12:48
pppoe_dudeAstxist, but later on, after i edit the line, firestarter starts normally..12:48
lightbrightKumaSan: is apt-get upgrade different from apt-get dist-upgrade12:48
lightbright?12:48
WebMavenGMachine_24: OK, thanks.12:48
Astxistpppoe_dude, what prog are you using?12:48
sklavthanlks topyli12:48
KumaSanlightbright, dist upgrade does a bit more than upgrade, it's not just for upgrading from one release of the distro to another, it can clear up other things also12:48
sklavthat is what i wanted to know12:48
KumaSannightvis1on, you said that XP failed to boot, right?12:48
pppoe_dudeAstxist, firestarter12:48
Astxistpppoe_dude, that needs all those ports that is12:48
WebMavenGMachine_24: live cd boot completes, GUI starts up as it should.12:48
nightvis1oncorrect12:48
sklavany reason that is not done by default?12:48
lightbrightKumaSan: should I do a  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:48
lightbright?12:48
fredforfaen!dma12:48
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lightbrightKumaSan: should I do a  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade weekly on Breezy?12:48
phasegenanyone know of any good programs for converting wma to mp3?12:48
Astxistpppoe_dude, but firestarter is a firewall?12:48
pppoe_dudeAstxist, bittornado, doesnt need that many perse12:48
HobbseeAstxist: firestarter is a firewall, yes12:49
Astxistpppoe_dude, it only really needs one12:49
infamusblanky: alright, im listening, im just a headstrong linux n00b thats all12:49
fredforfaen!dma12:49
RaydenUnii have a 10gb drive i'm going to install ubuntu on, should it be LVM?12:49
HrdwrBoBnot sttriclty12:49
C_J_ProI should get a booth down at Canal Days this year and put Ubuntu on display12:49
C_J_Prolol12:49
KumaSanlightbright, yes, dist-upgrade is different, it will pull in other packages, and change things that a simple upgrade won't, if you run it and look at the things it wants to change, then you might clear up the hold on restricted modules12:49
Astxistpppoe_dude, they do that to make blocking hard and avoid other things using ports12:49
lightbrightKumaSan: whats difference between apt-get -u dist-upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:49
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nightvis1onKumasan: As soon as I accept the selection it takes me to screen saying that "I should read about configuring my windows disks"12:49
blankyinfamus: I already typed everything...scroll up12:49
HrdwrBoBthe iptables/netfilter system is the firewall12:49
HrdwrBoBfirestarter is a front end to that12:49
topylilightbright: upgrade will hold packages that would require extra dependencies (new packages) to be installed. dist-upgrade will simply install them12:49
_jasonhow can I open mutliple instances of totem?12:49
KumaSanlightbright, update-manager handles it normally, no need to do it weekly12:49
Astxistpppoe_dude, you can configure the range for bittornado make a smaller one you don't need one that large12:50
pppoe_dudeAstxist, ok... i guess i can just narrow its range to 10 ports12:50
lightbrightKumaSan: so its safe to do a apt-get update and upgrade and dist-upgrade daily without breaking 5.10 breezy?12:50
djk_where can i find libqt3c102-mt ?12:50
HrdwrBoB_jason: I'm not sure if you can12:50
lightbrighttopyli: ok12:50
KumaSannightvis1on, can't help with that I am afraid, I don't do windows.12:50
pppoe_dudeAstxist, nevertheless though, can i put a port range for firestarter?12:50
Astxistpppoe_dude, :)12:50
sklavi would use dist-upgrade on major chamges12:50
Sedgeanyone else have any experience on using SATA drives with ubuntu and slow performance on writes / reads?12:50
lightbrighttopyli:  so its safe to do a apt-get update and upgrade and dist-upgrade daily without breaking 5.10 breezy?12:50
sklavlike lib changes example glibc and so on12:50
pppoe_dudeHrdwrBoB, I am aware of that12:50
KumaSanlightbright,  I wouldn't do a dist-upgrade weekly, unless you know what's happening.12:50
pppoe_dudeAstxist, or i guess i can make 10 seperate entries... k thanks12:51
nightvis1onKumasan: I think its that little section of code that you printed out earlier that i need to properly configure12:51
lightbrightKumaSan: so just a update and upgrade daily?12:51
KumaSanlightbright, updates are fine, upgrades, but dist-upgrade can change some things.12:51
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KumaSanlightbright, yes12:51
Astxistpppoe_dude, well I can seem to use a range without it complaining12:51
_jasonHrdwrBoB, hrmm ok, I'll stick with mplayer then. Thanks12:51
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nightvis1onKumasan: I just need some guidance what to put where im afraid12:51
SedgeKumaSan, what does sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda1 give you for performance numbers?12:51
Astxistpppoe_dude, I'll check it for you just a sec12:51
topylilightbright: normally you just upgrade when you're using a stable version. daily dist-upgrades are only needed on, say, debian sid12:51
KumaSannightvis1on, the only windows system I have here, was 98, and breezy did it fine automatically, but I have it on a seperate HD than the breezy install is.12:51
martin__so anyone know of a good wifi scanner?12:51
lightbrightKumaSan: but the Update Manager wants to do a dist-upgrade all the time! isnt this bad then by default?12:52
Sedgei'm getting 1562mb/sec on cached reads and 54mb/s on buffered disk reads12:52
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xorediam getting that after i install zshrc :12:52
xoredperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:12:52
xored        LANGUAGE = "de",12:52
xored        LC_ALL = (unset),12:52
xored        LANG = "de_DE@euro"12:52
KumaSannightvis1on, are your XP and Breezy installs on diff hard drives?12:52
nightvis1onKumasan: Have you ever worked with wifi on ubuntu?12:52
lightbrighttopyli: if thats the case, WHY then does the Update Manager wants to do a dist-upgrade all the time! isnt this bad then by default?12:52
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nightvis1onno they arent12:52
tritiumplease no pastes, xored12:52
wickaSo now I have sound, but it is choppy and of bad quality.12:52
lightbrighttopyli: new users would simply upgrade using update manager12:52
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KumaSanlightbright, dunno, I just click the little icon, and let it go it's merry way :)12:52
blanky!tell xored about pastebin12:52
topylilightbright: upgrade manager doesn't do that12:52
xoredtritium: ok, sroyy12:52
tritium:)12:52
xoredsorry12:52
lightbrightKumaSan: well that does a dist-upgrade12:52
lovethepirki am going to be a ubunto newbie :)12:53
wickaI get this error when I do the Multimedia Systems Selector.12:53
lightbrighttopyli:  yes it does12:53
KumaSannightvis1on, I use it, It wasn't much work for me, my card was supported12:53
lovethepirkwhy is the install cd only 650mb12:53
KumaSanlightbright, ok12:53
mweichertI think I've found a bug with Ubuntu's client build of LTSP! :-S12:53
blankywicka: got sound yet bud?12:53
wickaPretty much.12:53
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nightvis1onKumaSan: okay...at least you have a working copy12:53
xoredtritium: can you maybe help me ?12:53
blankywicka: :) :) :)12:53
lightbrighttopyli: believe me!   Update manager shows stuff to install that ONLY a dist-upgrade would through CLI12:53
lovethepirkmost netinst cds are 100mb and the full one is 1 gig, isn't that true?12:53
martin__g2g12:53
wickaI have sound, but when I go to the multimedia sound system selector it gives me an error, and the sound is terribly quality.12:53
nightvis1onKumaSan: If I tell you happens, could you diagnose my problem/12:53
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topylilightbright: for me, it has often held packages and adviced to use the "advanced" thingy12:53
tritiumxored, did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?12:53
topylihas this changed lately?12:53
lightbrighttopyli: if I do apt-get upgrade through CLI, it wont install the stuff that Update Manager wants to12:54
KumaSanlightbright,  depends on settings, IIRC, "smart updates" on update manager, are equiv to dist-upgrade12:54
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KumaSannightvis1on, maybe, worth a try12:54
WebMavenGMachine_24: I get starting Gnome Display Manager...      [fail] 12:54
topylilightbright: like all the time?12:54
RaydenUnii have a 10gb drive i'm going to install ubuntu on, should it be LVM?12:54
xoredtritium: its not something with the system. I installed zsh and using it as login shell now. I think iam setting something wrong in the .zshrc12:55
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pppoe_dudeAstxist, its ok... i looked it up on google before, there didnt seem to be anything referring to port ranges, so i tried iptables... but now im just gonna use 10 entries to be on the safe side12:55
lightbrighttopyli: yes12:55
tritiumxored, possibly.  I've not used zsh12:55
KumaSanRaydenUni, as a rule, accept the defaults on the install (unless you are trying to save a partition like a currently installed distro or MS install, in which case,r ead carefully) and you'll be fine12:55
sethkxored, I use zsh.  what is your problem?12:55
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lightbrightKumaSan: is it safe to install the latest kernel?12:55
Astxist-Apppoe_dude, guess you can't12:55
tritiumlightbright, ubuntu package?12:55
RaydenUnii have a 10gb that i am putting the install on, and an 80gb i don't want to touch right now12:55
wickablanky: now it sucks even more because I'm oh so close.12:56
topylilightbright: i think KumaSan is onto something. it probably follows synaptic settings12:56
KumaSanlightbright, you mean the latest packaged kernel? or something from kernel.org?12:56
RaydenUniactually ubuntu installer was having difficulty reading the sata12:56
nightvis1onKumaSan: Everything is supported, ubuntu reckognized the card i was using off the start. I went in to Administrative Tools> Networking> then enabled my wlan0 with my appropriate settings. Then i went back to iwconfig and it tells me that there is no signal, though I know there is DEFINETELY a signal from where I am sitting.12:56
claudioserver irc.freenode.net12:56
claudioserver /irc.freenode.net12:56
sethkxored, zsh is a wonderful shell, but as it is quite complex configuration issues can be subtle12:56
xoredsethk: iam getting a error, wheater my lokalisation is wrong like  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:12:56
lightbrighttritium: what?12:56
claudioserver #/irc.freenode.net12:56
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tritiumlightbright, the latest kernel you're referring to12:56
sethkxored, to start with, compare the environment variables in bash and in zsh.  That will probably show it to you.12:56
nightvis1onKumaSan: I checked ifup, and I dont recieve any packets back12:57
lightbrightKumaSan: Update Manager is showing 4 updates, latest kernel and linux-restricted-modules-38612:57
lightbrighttritium: Update Manager is showing 4 updates, latest kernel and linux-restricted-modules-38612:57
sethkxored, usually if there is an issue it is that people forget the /etc/zshenv is read, in addition to $HOME/.zshrc.  But of course there are other causes12:57
tritiumdo update12:57
RaydenUniwhat does "do not use partition" mean?12:57
tritiumRaydenUni, it means ubuntu won't touch that partition for any reason12:57
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RaydenUnior be able to read it?12:57
sethkxored, do (in both bash and zsh)    export | sort > output.file12:57
sethkxored, then diff the two output files.12:57
RaydenUniright now it has that little lightning bolt on a drive i don't want it to touch12:57
tritiumNot without further configuring post-install12:57
xoredsethk: there is nothing in my .bashrc for language settings.12:57
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KumaSannightvis1on, For me, I insert the card, and the network pops up. but I am running network-manager applet, that might help12:58
xoredsethk:  ok12:58
sethkxored, that's why I mentioned zshenv.  But remember, it may be something _missing_ from .zshrc12:58
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lightbrightam I the only one getting Update Manager to say it wants to install 4 updates, latest kernel and linux-restricted-modules-386 ?12:58
tritiumlightbright, my kerrnel was updated a few days ago12:58
tritiumkernel even12:58
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wickablanky: one guy said to fix the choppy sound you had to lower the sound buffer, where is that at?12:58
nightvis1onKumaSan: ahhh, how can I get a hold of that?12:58
lightbrighttritium: how?  through update manager?12:58
tritiumlightbright, yes12:58
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sethklightbright, I got the kernel update on two systems.12:58
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lightbrighttritium: well thats it then12:58
tritiumthat's normal, lightbright.  It's there for that reason12:58
lightbrightsethk: ok12:59
RaydenUni255mb ext3 /boot and 9.7gb lvm, does that sound about right for a 10 gb drive?12:59
xoredi got it, sethk thank you12:59
tritiumlightbright, you don't want to miss out on security updatees12:59
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tritiumupdates12:59
skapplecan someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?12:59
xoredcan someone tell me what i need for using latext in emacs ?12:59
sethkxored, not sure I helped, but I'm glad you fixed it.12:59
lightbrighttritium: ok but when I type apt-get upgrade from CLI, it says it will hold them back!  YET update manager wants to install them!   so Update Manager does a dist-upgrade doesnt it?12:59
sklav256Megs fro /boot is a bit much12:59
skappleit says it is a tmpfs, but i already have a device labeled tmpfs12:59
KumaSannightvis1on, apt-get install network-manager12:59
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sethkxored, you mean LaTeX?12:59
xoredsethk: yes12:59
tritiumxored, you don't strictly _need_ anything, but auctex and preview-latex are nice additions12:59
nightvis1onbut I dont have internet12:59
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lightbrighttritium: im using kernel 68612:59
nightvis1onso I cant install it01:00
sethkxored, I think the mode for it is in the standard distribution; I don't remember having to load anything additional into emacs.01:00
tritiumlightbright, right, dist-upgrade01:00
lightbrighttritium: im using kernel 686, and 386 is updated!  should I be using 386 kernel instead then?01:00
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xoredtritium: is auctex a addition to emacs or a standalone editor ?01:00
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RaydenUnithis scares me01:00
tritiumlightbright, you have both installed, and if you keep both the 386 and 686 kernels, please get both security updates01:00
lightbrighttritium: is it safe to always do a dist-upgrade because KumaSan said its not01:00
topylixored: it's an emacs major mode01:00
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xoredsethk: tritium : iam a rookiy in latex so it would be nice if the editor would support me as good as possible01:01
tritiumlightbright, if you know what you're doing, yes.01:01
lightbrighttritium: i dont see a 686 kernel update in the Update Manger though!  only the 38601:01
WebMavenGMachine_24: Could the wierd characters be a locale problem?01:01
KumaSanlightbright, no, I said it can be an issue, not that it *will* be01:01
tritiumxored, if you like KDE, kile rocks for editing latex01:01
lightbrightKumaSan: hehe ok :P01:01
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tritiumlightbright, okay01:01
GMachine_24web: perhaps but it's not like anything i've heard before.01:01
wickaGuys, if someone said to lower the sound buffer in the control center, what would they be talking about.01:01
nightvis1onKumasan: how am I supposed to apt-get when i dont have internet?01:01
sethkxored, actually, thinking, I realized that I tried it in slackware, not ubuntu.  Let me see if I can quickly install it.01:01
xoredtritium: does kile works under kubuntu + xfce ?01:01
GMachine_24if you cannot run x can you run anything else?01:01
lightbrighttritium: do you run the 386 or 686 kernel?01:02
skapplecan someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?01:02
skappleit says it is a tmpfs, but i already have a device labeled tmpfs01:02
tritiumxored, yes, but you'll have to install some qt libs01:02
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KumaSannightvis1on, you aren't here on IRC? :)01:02
tritium(they'll be pulled in as dependencies, xored)01:02
nightvis1onthis is a different computer01:02
topylixored: it will work in gnome, but it's a kde app, yes01:02
tritiumlightbright, I run the 686, but still have the 386 installed01:02
KumaSannightvis1on,  have you checked to see if network-manager is already installed?01:02
wickaGuys, if someone said to lower the sound buffer in the control center, what would they be talking about.01:02
xoredtritium:  some is good, 73 MB :)01:02
nightvis1onum01:02
nightvis1onno01:02
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nightvis1onIll check it out01:02
lightbrighttritium: but the update only shows the 386 update!  how come no 686 update?01:02
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER treated me with such complete disrespect, foul language, and name calling, that he is banned01:03
sethkxored, I find a package called "auctex" for using Tex/LaTeX with emacs01:03
wickablanky: if someone said to lower the sound buffer in the control center, what would they be talking about.01:03
blankycall me stupid but I dont see any reason for a home user who wants bleeding edge to try debian anymore, I mean, ubuntu is debian with updates adn stuff01:03
xoredsethk: anyone said use emacs and so on, so thats why ia want a teste :)01:03
tritium(in a PM)01:03
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blankycontrol center01:03
blankyhold on01:03
lightbrighttritium: why do we need to upgrade the 386 kernel if we using 686?01:03
wickaK01:03
xoredsethk: ok, so its an addtion. Thank you01:03
WebMavenYes, but I'm wondering if the wierd rendering of the x setup screens is indicative of another problem.01:03
sethkxored, I'm installing the package now.  The description sounds like exactly what you want.01:03
tritiumlightbright, I don't recall if both were updated or not...01:03
XolutionI'm using an Ubuntu Live CD right now, and is there any way I can open my CD drive?01:03
WebMavenGMachine_24:  Yes, but I'm wondering if the wierd rendering of the x setup screens is indicative of another problem.01:03
lightbrightblanky: hehe I senses a lot of passion in your comment :)01:03
szehnei don't mean to start a flame war here, but what's the most customizable window manager to go with?01:03
xoredsethk: thank you big times01:03
KumaSanblanky, debian Sid still has a butt tonne of packages, far more than Ubuntu. If that's what you like.01:03
GMachine_24web: yeah, it could be somehow on the install the setup was fouled up somehow01:04
blankyyeah I know, but I mean , I dont know01:04
lightbrighttritium: only the 386 is being offered!  so does that mean our 686 is not upgraded and is vurnerable now?01:04
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tritiumxored, auctex is an emacs add-on01:04
KumaSanszehne, csutomizable in what way? by clicking on themes? or running a compiler over some C? :)01:04
tritiumlightbright, not necessarily.  Perhaps only a fix to the 386 kernel was required01:04
blankyI just strongly think ubuntu should merge with debian, it's all the goods of debian plus the speed of canonical, we all know how slow debian dev is slow at making releases01:04
xoredi will try them both, kile and auctex01:04
GMachine_24web: but i'm sort of stumped.01:04
WebMavenGMachine_24: Well, OK. I guess I'll just blow away the existing install after all, but I'm not happy doing it.01:04
GMachine_24web: there's no way to do a reinstall?01:04
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sethkxored, takes a while to install, so be patient.01:04
sethkGMachine_24, sure there is.01:04
nightvis1onKumasan: Whats netkit?01:04
Crys_WinHi all.01:05
skapplecan someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?01:05
skappleit says it is a tmpfs, but i already have a device labeled tmpfs01:05
lightbrighttritium: so we are safe to contiue using 686, or in your opinion, its safer and better to use 386 if that is more supported?01:05
szehnecompiler option... i was thinking kde or gnome, but at the same time i'm thinking blackbox or something else01:05
GMachine_24web: well i meant without her losing a lot of data or something01:05
Crys_WinI have printer issues. Can anyone help?01:05
KumaSanblanky,  most of the Ubuntu stuff is folded back into Debian, it's all good.01:05
sklavblanky ubuntu is to debian as fedora is to redhat enterprise linux01:05
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tritiumlightbright, continue to use 686.  You'll be fine01:05
sethkxored, I always try any available add-ons for emacs, when there is a choice for a particular use.  And of course you have nothing to lose by trying everything available that might help with latex, emacs or not emacs.01:05
lightbrighttritium: ok :)01:05
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blankyKumaSan, yeah I know, especially why they should merge, I mean, there wouldn't be a differnece except for there being more goodness :D01:05
blankyas opensuse is to suse i bet01:05
WebMavenGMachine_24: that's not a problem, the user directory is replicated onto my desktop machine.01:05
KumaSannightvis1on, apt-cache show netkit :) apt-cache show will give you the info on any package in the repositories01:05
sethkxored, nothing to lose and everything to gain by experimenting01:05
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WebMavenSo, I won't lose data, but this does not bode well for upgrading my desktop.01:06
tritiumxored, sethk I started out using kile, tried auctex & preview-latex with emacs, but eventually just ended up using gedit01:06
mweichertI have LTSP running great, except - I have no access to local devices, such as the clients cd-rom or sound card01:06
xoredsethk: really glad to have such help. Iam just using latex and all iam trying for my studings01:06
tritiumxored, LaTeX rocks01:06
KumaSanblanky, no, there are some differences, in philosphy, and in code, although they are fairly minor. But there are a lot of folks who don't like Ubuntu/Canonical, and wouldn't care to work on them.01:06
topylixored: don't forget your all-nigt emax session for tweaking it "just so you like it" :)01:06
wickaSo where would I go to lower the sound buffer.01:06
sklavsomeone should change the title to the room us.archive.ubuntu.com has been up 2 days now01:06
Crys_WinI can see my printer, but I can't connect from a remote windows system. Can anyone help?01:06
sklavhehe01:07
blankyah I guess01:07
blankywicka: you there man01:07
lightbrighttritium: so 686 is also supported and upgraded as 386 is?01:07
wickablanky:yes01:07
WebMavenGMachine_24: does that make sense?01:07
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blankyhold on, is ubuntu part of the DCCA01:07
sklavlightbright, 686 and 386 are different kernel01:07
wickaDCCA?01:07
xoredtritium: , sethk , topyli : iam fresh from windows, but i used linux as secnd system a long time, now as primary. Under windows i used WineEd, it was not bad. But iam glad having all the linux tools now01:07
blankynot you wicka lol01:07
blankyhold on man01:07
KumaSanblanky,  among other things, Debian supports something like 14 architectures, UBuntu focuses on (IIRC) 301:07
blankyim trying to figure it out01:07
tritiumlightbright, like I said, there may not have been an update for the 686 kernel (and it might not have been required)01:07
wickaYeah I was just wondering.01:07
sklavthey are compiled differently so think of them as different01:07
blankyyeah KumaSan you're right01:08
tritiumxored, kile is the closest to winedt01:08
KumaSanBlankC,  no, they aren't part of the DCCA01:08
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blankywicka: I think it means something about looking in your preferences/administration settings01:08
blankyI'm trying to look for it thoug01:08
lightbrighttritium: yes but my question is:  do they support and upgrade the 686 as they do with 386?01:08
sklavapt-get wont update kernel01:08
sklavbut system update will list them01:08
sklavvery interesting01:08
blankyKumaSan, seriously? bastards, if they try to break lose of debian I'm so gone01:08
xoredtritium: emacs is liek a all in one tool like eclipse or ?01:08
WebMavenGMachine_24: it's just that if I can't get this to upgrade, and can't get my desktop to upgrade, then although I won't lose *data*, I will lose configuration, if you understand what I mean.01:08
KumaSanblanky, ?01:09
xoredtritium, sethk : you can just get anything for emacs. like it looks01:09
tritiumxored, yeah, it's an all-in-one and more tool, and I very much dislike it01:09
WebMavenBut, oh well.01:09
sklavvim is king01:09
tritiumlightbright, yes, in the event of a security problem with the 686 kernel, they'll definitely update it01:09
sklav;)01:09
lightbrighttritium: ?01:09
xoredtritium: why ?01:09
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blankyKumaSan, haven't you noticed more people are making things for ubuntu than debian, I mean, er...that didn't come out right: people are starting to write apps more towards ubuntu, and that's why DCCA kicked in, to ensure compatibility01:09
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lightbrighttritium: ok thats all I will ask :)01:09
lightbrighttritium: thanks again01:09
sklavlightbright, they are different packages01:09
blankyand look at ubuntu, it's not part of it, I'm gonna go post on the forums whe I can01:10
tritiumlightbright, :)01:10
afabianI wouldn't recommend using emacs as more than a text editor.  Kind of slow and kludgy.  The newsreader gnus built on emacs is top-notch, though.01:10
lightbrightsklav: yes01:10
lightbrightsklav: i understand that01:10
xoredsklav: yes vim is powerfull, iam using it for a month now and every day learing new stuff01:10
skappleam i supposed to have a device labeled 'none' using /dev as it's directory as a tmpfs?01:10
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lightbrighttritium: ok last question about this :) promise ;)  What exactly is the difference between the 386 and 686?01:10
tritiumxored, just personal preference.  Plently of people love it.01:10
sklavthe way they are compiled01:11
KumaSanblanky, DCCA looks a lot more political to me, which is one reason I haven't cared too much about it. I get enough politics in my life already. Ubuntu is bringing in more stuff, more people, that's good, and Debian benefits directly from that.01:11
sklavlightbright, its the way they are compiled01:11
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tritiumlightbright, they are optimized for different processors01:11
xoredtritium: kile looks like WinEd, and WinEd is commercial..01:11
SanneI like to load a module at startup, is it right to put it in /etc/modules?01:11
blankyYeah that's cool I just still want the packages to ensure compatibility, that way there's more stuff for everyone01:11
nightvis1onKumaSan: sorry about that01:11
tritiumxored, but kile is not commercial01:11
nightvis1onKumaSan: im back now01:11
blankyinstead of having 90 distros based on debian and they all cant be compatible01:11
blankyif you know what i mean01:11
sklavand a 686 kernel will not work on a system that only supports 386 compile flags01:11
KumaSanblanky, the fact that some things come in first for Ubuntu is fine by me, that's what the developers wanted to work on01:11
KumaSannightvis1on, no problem01:11
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lightbrighttritium: what processors is the 386 optimized for?  im using a Intel 800CPU01:12
xoredtritium: i know, thats what i tried to say. Its much better but not commercial.01:12
lightbrightsklav: why are they compiled differently?01:12
f3aryou can use 386 with the intel 80001:12
tritiumlightbright, for the Intel 386 ;)01:12
sklavlightbright, for optimization01:12
KumaSanblanky, distros fit different users, dsl is debian based, but is aimed at a totally different segment than Linspire or Ubuntu.01:12
GMachine_24web: i do know what you mean but i reconfigured this comp in no time and it was easier than with warty01:12
tritiumxored, :)01:12
nightvis1onKumaSan: so I didny find anything to do with what you said01:13
f3aris there a quicktime alternative for ubuntu?01:13
tritiumlightbright, the 386 is rather old.  Newer processors have newer features, etc.01:13
sklav686 cpu for example has new instruction sets that the 386 doesnt01:13
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lightbrighttritium: im using an Intel 800, should I be using 386 or 686 kernel?01:13
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lightbrightsklav: im using the 686 kernel atm, but should I?  i got a intel 80001:13
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Taliskeris there a package for kernel 2.6.2 and above somewhere?01:13
_jasonf3ar, mplayer plays .mov iirc01:13
xoredtritium: like eclipse :) As all discussing 686. I`ve switched to 686 on my breezy with an AMD64. Is there a problem ?01:13
sklavexample pii is a 386 kernel and P4 686 kernel01:13
sklavwhats intell 80001:13
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sklavis it a p3 80001:13
tritiumxored, well, there are amd-specific kernels you can use01:13
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xoredtritium: are there for 64bit only ?01:14
tritiumyes, xored01:14
lightbrightwhich kernel is optimized for my 800 CPU is what im trying to ask :)01:14
f3ar_jason, i'm having trouble installing mplayer you think you can help?01:14
xoredtritium: iam not going to use 64bit, as there not enaugh support yet01:14
sklavis it a p3 cpu01:14
tritiumlightbright, most current machines can use the 686 kernel01:14
sklava pentium 301:14
tritiumxored, not a bad decision01:14
varsendaggerf3ar, what is going on with mplayer?01:14
Taliskeris there a package for kernel 2.6.2 and above somewhere?01:14
lightbrighttritium: is my 800 a 386 or 686 processor?01:14
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KumaSannightvis1on, not sure If I can help beyond that I am afraid. I haven't had any problems with wifi, but I know that some have. It seems to vary greatly depending on what cards. All I can suggest is to try a couple of liveCDs like Knoppix, and Ubuntu Live, and see if they work, and if so, try and duplicate their settings.01:15
sklavits a 68601:15
jacqueshey everyone01:15
sklavyour 800mhx p3 is a 686 cpu01:15
tritiumlightbright, 686.  386 was released like in 1992 or so01:15
sethkxored, I have the mode loaded, it looks ok at first glance01:15
xoredtritium: if you would need to emulate windows for some programms, lets say photoshop or flash or others, what would you use ?01:15
GMachine_24ok i'm -out-01:15
lightbrightsklav: its not a p3, its the Intel cheap version01:15
xoredsethk: you mean auctex ?01:15
musterm4nn386 in 87ish.01:15
KumaSanlightbright,  686 is a subset of 386,01:15
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tritiumxored, personally, I'd probably use wine and winetools from winehq.com01:15
sklavits still a 68601:15
sklavits a celeron01:15
sethkxored, right.  auctex includes latex-mode for emacs01:15
lightbrightKumaSan: a subset?01:15
WebMavenwhat is the difference between the options "Erase Entire disk" and "Erase Entire disk and use LVM" ?01:15
sklavthe only difference less cache01:15
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xoredsethk:  do i load it in emacs itself ?01:16
sklavceleron 800MHZ is a trimmed down P3 80001:16
tritiumxored, it will auto-load in eamcs01:16
jacquesI just installed 5.10, never used Linux before, and, am having problems playing mp3s...01:16
lightbrightsklav: yes a Celeron 800 is what I have!  ok, i will keep using the 686 kernel, thanks :)01:16
f3arvarsendagger, i download the ubuntu package and after that.......i'm going to check right now actually01:16
tritiumemacs, at least when you open a .tex file01:16
sklavno prob01:16
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xoredtritium: what about crossover ?01:16
KumaSanlightbright, 386 instruction set will run on a 686, but the 686 includes some instructions that won't work on the 386, basic set theory :)01:16
tritium!tell jacques about mp301:16
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lightbrightsklav: ok ty for your help01:16
TaliskerOK, is there a good guide for upgrading ubuntu to 2.6.2?01:16
xoredtritium: sethk big thanky guys01:16
sklavnp01:16
varsendaggerf3ar, you shold just use synaptic01:16
lightbrightKumaSan: ok :)01:16
sethkxored, np, hope it helped at least a bit.01:17
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xoredsethk: sure01:17
tritiumKumaSan, then you had your subset comment backwards ;)01:17
f3arvarsendagger, synaptic won't work01:17
KumaSanTalisker, the std kernel for Breezy is 2.6.12 IIRC, 2.6.2 is quite old, is this a hand rolled one?01:17
lightbrightsklav: so I should get better performance using the 686 kernel, so i will keep using that then01:17
xoredse no its time to set up wine01:17
sklavyes lightbright01:17
sklavthat is what i want01:17
tritiumgood choice, lightbright01:17
lightbrightsklav: :)01:17
varsendaggerwhy not01:17
lightbrighttritium: thanks :)01:17
xoredsethk: and try to run the windows tools wich are not ported right now01:17
varsendaggerare you using breezy?01:17
Talisker  :\01:17
_KoN_New to linux, installed Ubuntu 5.04. I'm trying to get NWN working but i'm haveing troubles, can anyone help?01:17
jacquesNeverwinter Nights?01:18
blanky_KoN_, get a NWN installer01:18
dducko_KoN_, I can01:18
blankylet me get you one01:18
_KoN_yep, never winter nights01:18
f3arvarsendagger, yes im using breezy....when it prompts for the root password....i enter it and nothing happpens01:18
dduckoNah, Installers suck.. do it the old fashion way, works better..01:18
lightbrighttritium: why does ubuntu come standard with the old 386 kernel and not the 686 seeing the 386 was written for 1992 provessors?01:18
xored_KoN_: first thing you got to lear : POost the question, post not "can i ask201:18
sethkxored, I've never been happy with wine, although mostly I think because I don't like windows in the first place.  :)01:18
jacquesYa, how would one go about installing that?01:18
blanky_KoN_, click here http://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/01:18
dduckoInf fact Im gettting ready to do it right now _KoN_01:18
varsendaggerf3ar, just use your password01:18
tritiumblanky, I hope that's not warez you're providing01:18
f3arvarsendagger, I DO01:18
f3arsorry about caps01:18
KumaSanf3ar, there is no root password by default, it's asking for *your* password most likely01:18
varsendaggeror use the command line apt-get and atp-cachesearch features01:19
lightbrightsklav: can you answer that perhaps?01:19
WebMavenAnyone? What is the difference between the options "Erase Entire disk" and "Erase Entire disk and use LVM" ?01:19
xoredsethk: hehe, yes but i need to use it, as i need some commercial tools. Photoshop and so on, until i get used to gimp01:19
nightvis1onhey guys01:19
_KoN_i've tried the method on bioware, but its not working01:19
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nightvis1onim sutch a geek01:19
tritiumjust double-checking, as I'm not a gamer01:19
KumaSanWebMaven, one uses LVM on the disk, and one doesn't :)01:19
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f3arvarsendagger, sorry about the caps...but i put in my password and still nothing happpens...01:19
sethkxored, oh, I know, and there are windows tools I have to use as well from time to time.01:19
xoredsethk: Then i hopefully can run my Borland c++ 5 Builder under wine01:19
lightbright_KoN_: whats NWN?01:19
sklavok here is the answer lightbright 686 cpu's are backward compatible01:19
nightvis1onther is no spoon -The matricks01:19
tritiumlightbright, to support more hardware01:19
blankytritium, click on it, see for yourself01:19
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WebMavenKumaSan: Yes, but what are the pros/cons?01:19
tritiumgot to go folks...01:19
sklavso they will work with 386 kernel01:19
dducko_KoN_, Which disk do you have?01:19
tritiumblanky, just making sure01:19
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xoredtritium: good night01:19
_KoN_Never Winter Nights01:19
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sklavbut the 386 cpu's are not forward compatible01:19
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nightvis1onwho here has girlfreinds?01:19
sethkxored, haven't tried borland.  In fact, I haven't used borland in about 10 years, as I recall.01:19
varsendaggeruse sudo apt-get install mplayer nad01:19
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lightbrighttritium: so the 369 kernel supports more hardware than the 686 kernel?01:20
nightvis1onwho has girlfreinds01:20
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blanky_KoN_, I already told you. You need a linux installer, click here tritium blanky, I hope that's not warez you're providing01:20
nightvis1oni have a hot girlfreind01:20
tritiumyes, lightbright01:20
sethkxored, not because there is anything wrong with it, just because the jobs I've done haven't called for it.01:20
nightvis1onthat runs linix01:20
blankyhttp://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/01:20
sklavso safe bet it to use 386 by default because compatibility is more likely01:20
xoredsethk: Iam using 5 c++ for low cost commercail devopment01:20
nightvis1onon her computer01:20
lightbrighttritium: ok night :)01:20
tritiumgood night01:20
dduckoJust the Original  Campaign?  Platinum DVD?01:20
xoredsethk:  the editor of borland, is to say it in friendly words, bad01:20
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nightvis1onmy girl freins soo hot she uses c++ to inhanse her pictures she sent me01:20
KumaSanWebMaven, LVM allows you to add and remove HDs to your system, without messing up the install, but takes more admin to set up the volume groups and such, If you aren't going to be adding HD space, don't sweat it.  If you are running a server, it's probably worth looking into.01:20
sethkxored, doesn't have a plugin architecture, so you can use a different editor?01:20
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f3arvarsendagger, i sudo apt-get install mplayer and nothing happens...01:21
xoredsethk: not at all01:21
rel_ishnightvis1on: haha what01:21
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WebMavenKumaSan: thank you. Seems contraindicated for this laptop.01:21
_KoN_thanks, i'll start looking for something more helpfull than what bioware gives -out-01:21
xoredsethk: this would be geat ...01:21
_jasonubotu, tell f3ar about mplayer01:21
sethkxored, too bad.01:21
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KumaSanWebMaven, yeah, not much point on a laptop.01:21
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varsendaggeruse sudo apt-get update01:21
xoredsethk: you thin of eclipse mayve01:21
lightbrightsklav: I think I got it now after tritium's explantion! so the 386 kernel supports more hardware , and the 686 kernel supports more optimization?01:21
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sethkxored, not really thinking of anything, just asking as I haven't looked at it for so long01:21
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sklavyes01:21
lightbrightsklav: was that yes for me?01:22
rel_ishnightvis1on: if that was supposed to be a joke about boobs, I think you could have done much better, and also you could have probably tried to spell more than 3 words correctly...01:22
skapplecan someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?01:22
blankynightvis1on, wtf are you talking about lol01:22
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sethkskapple, freed memory that hasn't been reclaimed yet01:22
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KumaSanlightbright, yes, the 386 kernel will run on 386./486/586 and AMD, Cyrix, etc, the 686 won't run on all that01:22
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rixthubotu, tell blanky about lol01:22
xoredsethk:  :) I think the linux user himself ist just used to that plugin-development, as it just shows, thats the way to go01:22
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sethkskapple, linux uses a lazy algorithm to reclaim memory, which means that it isn't reclaimed until it is needed.01:22
rel_ishblanky: I think he was trying to talk about boobs, like a C cup bra, maybe? uuh perhaps?01:22
rixthDammit. Wrong trigger.01:22
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blankyrixth, I know that haha01:22
WebMavennightvis1on: Who cares?01:23
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sklavbut i recommend you look into something like A++ pdf as it will go into more details about different architectures01:23
rixthblanky, I'll get the right one :)01:23
sklavlightbright, but i recommend you look into something like A++ pdf as it will go into more details about different architectures01:23
Red-Soxhow do you turn off file sharing?01:23
rixthubotu, tell blanky about aolbonics01:23
rixthOh I can't be bothered. =/01:23
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lightbrightKumaSan: ok so 686 doesnt support as much hardware, yet if a persons hardware works with the 686, they should use it as its optimized better for more performance!  Ok I got it :)01:23
sklavthe version of the answer you got is simplified but accurate for its means01:23
blankyaolbonics, ew01:23
lightbrightsklav: where can I get the A++ pdf?01:23
Pablo!aolbonics01:23
ubotuPablo: Bugger all, i dunno01:23
blankylol01:24
rel_ishblanky: my blankets name is blanky...01:24
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KumaSanlightbright,  pretty much, although the improvements are often more theoretical than actual :)01:24
sklavthe unoffical way do a search on a p2p network01:24
blankyrel_ish, that's hot01:24
sklavor just purchase a book at a book store01:24
Pabloubotu, tell Pablo about aolbonics01:24
rel_ishblanky: I'm holding it right now, I'm so immature01:24
sklavps a search on google.com for A++ will give you pleanty of links01:24
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blankyrel_ish, lol01:24
lightbrightKumaSan: so the 386 processors were made in around 1992?  and the 486 around 1995?  and today they are 686?01:24
Red-Soxdoes anyone know?01:24
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lightbrightKumaSan:  hehe ok ;)01:24
blankyi used dducko tape on that dude01:25
rel_ishblanky: I even sewed a little face on the corner01:25
Dr_WillisRed-Sox,  Hmm disable samba?01:25
WebMavenRed-Sox: what kind of file-sharing do you mean?01:25
KumaSanlightbright,  well, that's about when they were released, b ut you can still buy 386 class CPUs,e specially for embedded stuff, they run cooler, and are a lot cheaper01:25
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blankyrel_ish, that's nice, I upgraded mine with cyber blanky hacks01:25
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Red-SoxWebMaven: over the internet, i guess01:25
blankyit can move and stuff01:25
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rel_ishblanky: omg, sweet, what kind of games does it have?01:25
sklavKumaSan, the only things shipping with 386 cpu's are toasters :) hehe01:25
WebMavenRed-Sox: are you running a file-sharing client of some kind?01:25
Red-SoxWebMaven: all i know is someone got my IP and could see all my files01:26
f3arvarsendagger, sudo apt-get update isn't doing anything either01:26
WebMavenAh.01:26
lightbrightKumaSan: ok but my Celeron 800 is a 68601:26
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blankyit has a category called 'in bed', but I dont wanna list those...01:26
Red-SoxWebMaven: over the net01:26
WebMavenSo, you have samba running.01:26
KumaSansklav, Hey , don't knock the embedded market, it's a lot bigger than the PC market :)01:26
sklavKumaSan, i know01:26
Red-SoxWebMaven: okay, I dont want it running!01:26
KumaSanlightbright, correct, it's a 686 class CPU01:26
sklavi was just joking01:26
rel_ishblanky, hahaha awwesome, now I desire to upgrade mine01:26
Red-SoxWebMaven: how do you stop it?01:26
KumaSansklav, :)01:26
Red-SoxWebMaven: killall samba?01:26
lightbrightKumaSan:  i understand, thanks for the learning01:26
WebMavenIt would be unusual for that to be running on it's own, did you turn something on like printer sharing?01:26
KumaSanlightbright, np01:27
sklavNees to get a AMD 64 or intel 6401:27
varsendaggerf3ar, what is it telling you01:27
Red-SoxWebMaven: i think so01:27
lightbright:)01:27
Red-SoxWebMaven: yes01:27
blankywhat was that new service where it's linux online, in a website, so it wasnt live or anything but isntead you went to a website and you could use it01:27
Red-SoxWebMaven: but I dont need it01:27
blankyi forgot what it's called01:27
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f3arvarsendagger, nothing happens at all...doesnt say anything01:27
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needlz_does anyone know a programm which can help me to setup a free email service for friends with 2 or 3 domains to choose?01:27
f3arits as if i was entering it in xchat...i just see what i typed01:27
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sklavneedlz_, postfix / squirrelmail / apache / php401:27
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sklavand dovecot01:27
sklavis all you need01:28
WebMavenWell, you should be able to turn it off, and maybe (if you don't need to access printers or files on other machines on your LAN) just uninstall samba.01:28
varsendagger"/msg it to me please01:28
sklavpractically work out of the box01:28
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t1n_m4nHey, I have just ndiswrapper'd my WPC54G and it took fine, but when I type modprobe ndiswrapper, then ifup wlan0, it says that wlan0 is an unknown interface... any ideas?01:28
Red-SoxWebMaven: k01:28
needlz_sklav: mh ok, thx01:28
needlz_lemme check dovecot :)01:28
edgarwhere do i go to setup my orinoco based wifi usb in breezy badger?01:28
foxgamerHi all. I am just wondering whether it is possible to set up a radeon x300 graphics card in the 64bit version?01:28
sklavdovecot is simple01:28
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sklavneed complex cyrus-imapd01:29
WebMavenRed-Sox: I would also suggest investing in a firewall. I like the Linksys ones myself.01:29
Red-SoxWebMaven: i tried sudo apt-get remove samba. but nothing happened01:29
sklavI use shorewall01:29
Red-Sox!01:29
ubotuRed-Sox: Are you on ritalin?01:29
needlz_sklav: what i was looking for is something like freemails.ch01:29
sklavand its awesome01:29
lightbrightwhats the '-u' switch do here?  apt-get -u dist-upgrade01:29
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buckyis this your charity? http://www.cncf.org/noble_circle/view_circle.asp?id=18501:29
t1n_m4n!tell lightbright about man01:29
NobleArcbah, stupid highlight.01:30
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cozHello All01:30
lightbrightt1n_m4n: hehe ok, I get the hint :)01:30
t1n_m4n^^01:30
cozHas anyone here tested NEROlinux01:30
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sklavoh sorry needlz_ i thought you wanted to setup something that could do it01:30
NobleArcNeroLINUX is awful.01:30
cozwy is that01:30
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sklavgoing to watch harry potter01:31
sklavhehe01:31
sklavi love that series01:31
cozSo why is NeroLinux so bad?01:31
KumaSananyone know how to make xchat play a sound when a msg refers to my nick?01:31
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t1n_m4nAnyone have any idea why I don't have wlan0 as an interface, but ndiswrapper -l shows driver present, hardware present? I modprobe'd ndiswrapper allready...01:31
WebMavensklav: did you read the latest one?01:31
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edgarwhere do i go to setup my orinoco based wifi usb in breezy badger?01:31
brdwebNobleArc: actually I would say it's the 2nd or 3rd best burning suite for linux. But k3b works better and is open source01:31
sklavWebMaven, yes i have01:32
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KumaSanedgar, network manager worked for me,01:32
NobleArcI love K3B.01:32
sklavi have the whole series on books01:32
cozI am using gnomebaker right now and like that01:32
jacqueshey guys, Ive read the wiki, and... Im still not sure how to make it possible to play mp3s...01:32
varsendaggerf3ar, is it working?01:32
WebMavent1n_m4n: try depmod01:32
cozbut Nero uses GEAR as it's burning engine which is top of the line01:32
chabecause nero doesn't know how to make linux apps01:32
sklavWebMaven, there should be a cool fight seen with voldermort on goblet of fire01:32
t1n_m4nokay one second01:32
f3arvarsendagger, nope01:32
brdwebcoz: that's the other one that's worth mentioning01:32
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lightbrightis it a good idea to daily do apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean ?01:32
edgarKumaSan: so u didnt need the terminal or anything? because im setting this up for my gf over the phone01:32
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lightbrightedgar: is "you"01:33
needlz_sklav: http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/screenshots.htm...maybe you can use it too :)01:33
f3arvarsendagger, none of the System apps are even loading...i see the "starting.....whatever" but no windows appera01:33
f3arappear*01:33
cozWell I can't afford GEAR for linux and I was hoping that nero worlked well on ubuntu01:33
KumaSanNo, I didn't, but my card was supported without need for ndiswrapper or anything, just plugged it in, and away it went.01:33
WebMavenafter you do modprobe ndiswrapper, do lsmod to see if it 'took', and then depmod to write the changes.01:33
t1n_m4nYup, that did it.  Thanks alot WebMaven01:33
lightbrightKumaSan: is it a good idea to daily do apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean ?01:33
varsendaggerhmm anyone know what's happengin with f3ar system?01:34
WebMavent1n_m4n: you are very welcome.01:34
lightbrightt1n_m4n: try using man ;)01:34
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t1n_m4npoo... wait... WebMaven, it didn't work.01:34
edgarthanks01:34
KumaSanlightbright, nah, it just clears up old package files, run it once a week or month, or if you get a little tight on space01:34
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t1n_m4nWebMaven, I see wlan0 in iwconfig, but I still can't ifup wlan001:34
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f3arvarsendagger, i cant even open up the users and groups to set up a new account01:34
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lightbrightKumaSan: ok but im setting up a script that does update and upgrade daily!  would it hurt to add clean and autoclean to the daily run script?01:35
sklavlightbright, your starting to sound like a troll01:35
sklavhehe01:35
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varsendaggerf3ar, reeboot01:35
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DShepherdsklav: a troll? how so?01:35
jacqueshow do i to the terminal?01:35
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DShepherdlol01:35
lightbrightsklav: how rude :(01:35
sklavwell he is asking simple questions multiple times after receiving multiple answers01:35
f3arvarsendagger, this isnt the first time this has happened...i just booted up before entering this channel...01:36
WebMavent1n_m4n: on my laptop, there is a stupid little button that turns the wifi on and off 9and an associated light). Could yours have something similar?01:36
sklavand now he is writing a script01:36
DShepherdsklav:  oh.. ok01:36
sklavhehe01:36
DShepherdlol01:36
KumaSanlightbright, hurt? no, you might wind up having to d/l a  package again once in a while, but that's about it.01:36
lightbrightsklav: im new to Linux and ubuntu and learning a lot, by asking questions, sorry if that bothers you :(01:36
sklavdoesntbother me01:36
sklavat all01:36
lightbrightKumaSan: ok thank you01:36
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sklavim just stating something i noticed no disrespect whatsoever01:36
KumaSanjacques, applications->accessories->terminal01:36
t1n_m4nWebMaven, I'm using a pcmcia card.  No button ^^; The weird thing is that ndiswrapper sees it, iwconfig sees it, and ifconfig sees it.  I need ifup to get dhcp for it, although.01:37
sklavim one for asking questions01:37
sklavand lots of them01:37
lightbrightsklav: i love getting different ideas from different people!  I have received to class feedback and help here, the most helpful people I ever met are in this channel!  And I never had anyone be bothered until you01:37
toddHi all, needs some help setting up ubuntu server with two NICs. Have a compaq with onboard NIC and Netgear NIC. Onboard card works fine, but cant get second card to work. Works with Knoppix so it not the hw. Any ideas?01:37
sklavhehe01:37
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sklavif i was bothered would i have answered?01:37
lightbrightsklav: dont worry, I wont ask you anymore questions01:37
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lightbrightbrb01:38
mweichertcan someone tell me if gnome menus are user-specific?01:38
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varsendaggerf3ar, what did you do?01:38
mweichertfor example, can I change the menu that each user sees?01:38
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sklavmweichert, its possible01:38
f3arvarsendagger, what do you mean...01:38
KumaSantodd, do an lspci and see if the card is identified, also, boot knoppix and look at the modules it loads, it may simply need the module added to the whitelist01:38
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sklavbut you would have to store that info in /etc/skel01:38
t1n_m4nWebMaven, I got it.  I used Networking in the System Menu.  The gui front end solved it for me.  I feel like a cheating nub, but I have wireless.01:39
KumaSanmweichert, yes, they can be different for each user.01:39
t1n_m4nWebMaven, it added auto wlan0 to my /etc/networking/interfaces01:39
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Dr_Willissklav,  isent /etc/skel just used when a NEW user is made? as a 'default' home dir?01:39
toddlspci does detect the card as National Semiconductors DP83815, same as Knoppix01:39
t1n_m4nthat allowed ifup to pick up on it. ^^01:39
sklavi know Dr_Willis01:39
sklavim mentionning it as option01:39
sklavalready created users would need the files copied to home directories01:40
varsendaggerf3ar, in order for you to loose your administrative utilitie you must have deleted something01:40
sklavi dont know of a more efficient way01:40
Taliskeris it possible to split an ext3 partition into two partitions?01:41
t1n_m4nWhat does the err : "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" mean? I get it when trying to start a terminal.01:41
KumaSansklav, sabayon, it's kinda cool. Lets you make profiles, and such01:41
sklavi used it last week to be honest but i thought it was a remote X viewer01:41
sklavhehe01:41
KumaSanskapple, :)01:42
f3arvarsendagger, i dont know what i may have deleted but nothings working anymore heh this sucks01:42
KumaSaner sklav, :)01:42
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sklavlol01:42
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zapada2Does anyone have a keygen for the latest linuxant drivers?01:42
sklavi thinks it time to eat01:43
sklavim hungry01:43
KumaSanf3ar, what's the problem?01:43
varsendaggerf3ar, i would look around and see if i could find apt01:43
varsendaggeror somehting like that in /usr/bin01:43
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f3arKumaSan, i can't run any of the admin apps such as Upadge, Synaptic, Users and Groups, etc...not even Add Applications01:43
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f3arvarsendagger, look around where...01:44
KumaSanf3ar, sudo doesn't work anymore?01:44
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f3arKumaSan, nope01:44
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sklavf3ar, i had similar issue01:44
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varsendaggerf3ar, nevermind ask these guys01:45
f3arsklav, were you able to fix it01:45
sklavsudoers file is probably missing your username in there01:45
sklavi was able to fix it01:45
f3arvarsendagger, thanks man01:45
nightvis1on my computer is over refreshing and my bios is staling can any one help me?01:45
KumaSanf3ar, but you can log in fine with your username password right?01:45
sklavbut i changed roots password because i had to logon01:45
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sklavor you can try logging into linux single01:45
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sklaveasy nightvis1on01:46
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sklavyour going to get banned01:46
bobcat?01:46
bimberi!ops01:46
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f3arKumaSan, yeah i can log in normally with my user/pass01:46
f3arsklav, how can i replace the sudoers file...if that is the problem..01:46
sklavf3ar, did you change or delete the initial user account?01:46
sklavyou need to add the following01:46
f3arsklav, no01:46
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sklavrestart the system in single mode01:47
sklavaka failsafe01:47
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bimberinalioth: tks :)01:48
sklavmake sure you have the following %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL01:48
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synackuatormy celery box just goes blank after the ubuntu breezy loading splash screen... any ideas?01:48
sklavand make sure your username is part of the admin group01:48
KumaSanf3ar, when did you add a root passwrd?01:48
sklavsynackuator, what videocard?01:48
f3arKumaSan, i dont think i added one...01:49
synackuatoran original ATI all in wonder 16mb01:49
synackuatori can go to the fail safe mode to get a prompt, but X won't start01:49
KumaSanf3ar, what did you change that started this?01:49
sklavsynackuator, i had the same issue01:49
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sklavi filled a bug report01:49
xulini01:49
sklavyou got further than me01:50
f3arKumaSan, nothing that i know of...i have been trying to install mplayer without any luck01:50
xulinis have a little problem with firefox ..01:50
sklavi could not get past the install part "partitioning"01:50
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jacquescan someone help figure out how to play mp3's01:50
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KumaSanf3ar, start up a terminal, and run sudo ls, see what error pops up01:50
Dr_Willis!mp301:50
ubotuto enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:50
xulini install gxine and mplayer but .. is it possible to choose with one is used in firefox ?01:50
jacquesIve ready the wikis and such, yet I still cant get it to play01:50
jacquesIve already read the wiki on restricted formats01:50
Dr_Willisjacques,  then clarify the problem.01:50
f3arnothing happens01:50
f3arKumaSan, nothing happens...01:51
Dr_Willisthats telling us nothing. :P01:51
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jacquesThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins01:51
KumaSanf3ar, you don't get a request for a paswword?01:51
f3arKumaSan, nope01:51
sklavjacques, does it skip threw all the files?01:51
threeseashate to say it but breezy really shouldn't be getting the press it has laterly -- regarding being ready for business use..01:51
TheHello01:51
KumaSanf3ar, does the ls command run?01:51
jacquesive only selected one mp3 file01:51
Dr_Willisrun a mp3 player from the shell. see if any errors pop up.01:51
The_Isle_of_MarkWhat is a good midi player for ubuntu?01:51
synackuatorsklav: you're sure it's the video card?01:51
f3arif i only enter 'ls' yes01:51
jacquessorry DrWillis, but, how do I do that?01:52
f3arKumaSan, but if i enter sudo ls, nothing happens01:52
sklavsynackuator, i tried 3 different ati 8meg AGP cards01:52
KumaSanThe_Isle_of_Mark, timidity01:52
sklavsame issue01:52
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sklavi installed my nvidia issue is gone01:52
sklavgo to ubuntu.bugzilla.org01:52
wsmithI would very much like to be able to burn an audio cd from a collection of mp3s without using the command line. Which package(s) would provide such functionality?01:52
foxgamerI have just made changes to my xorg.conf file. Is there a way I can 'reload' this without restarting the computer?01:52
sklavand do a search for ati01:52
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sklavthere are some fixes posted there01:53
Dr_Willisjacques,  open up a terminal.. run xmms, or beep-media-player or whatever mp3 player ya want fby typing its name01:53
sklavfor your particular issue01:53
sklavsomething about vga=74101:53
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sklavtry that in grub01:53
sklavvga=74101:53
TheI'm new at this   Can I get some advice on installing Opera01:53
synackuatorsklav: ok thanks, i'll look into that01:54
The_Isle_of_MarkKumasan is it in the repos?01:54
Ubuntutroubletrying to install breezy getting stuck at this ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ tried disabling some irq's no change01:54
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KumaSanf3ar, sounds odd, look in /var/log/auth.log for errors01:54
xoredcan i use gimp making Design for commercial uses ?01:54
bimberiubotu tell The about opera01:55
sklavOk guys im off01:55
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sklavthe wife is looking for a lawyer heheh01:55
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Travistyhey all, I have a question about suspending and hibernating. I used to be able to hibernate from my shut down menu (breezy) but now the option is gone. How can I get it back?01:55
KumaSanThe_Isle_of_Mark, yes,  for Breezy and Dapper, don't know about Hoary01:55
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f3arKumaSan, Nov 24 12:08:13 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=  user=f3ar01:56
f3arNov 24 12:09:32 localhost sudo:     f3ar : command not allowed ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/f3ar ; USER=root ; COMMAND=validate01:56
f3arNov 24 12:09:42 localhost sudo:     f3ar : command not allowed ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/f3ar ; USER=root ; COMMAND=validate01:56
f3arNov 24 12:14:05 localhost gdm[6874] : (pam_unix) session closed for user f3ar01:56
KumaSanTravisty, it's an issue with /etc/defaults/acpi-support,01:56
lightbrightsklav: hehe01:56
Travistywhy would it go away if I had it?01:56
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The_Isle_of_MarkKumaSan, it is in breezy, thanks :)01:56
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neoplasticityanyone know what the lowest level editor01:57
KumaSanf3ar, are you currently logged in as root? or f3ar?01:57
lightbrightTravisty: perhaps something was installed that removed it?01:57
xoredcan i use gimp making Design for commercial uses ?01:57
neoplasticityon ubuntu is?01:57
neoplasticityvi01:57
neoplasticityisn't working01:57
aeon17xxored: why not?01:57
kethinovafter installing ubuntu, i installed KDE as well. but it cluttered up my GNOME menu something fierce. how can i remove, say, kde-games, without removing KDE itself? (i like to play with KDE on occasion, but not its games.)01:57
lightbrightTravisty: can you right click and chose Add to Panel?01:57
f3arf3ar01:57
xoredaeon17x:  Lizens issues. Just asking01:57
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KumaSanTravisty, look at the file I listed, and uncomment the line it tells you to. Then restart acpi, or reboot01:57
_jasonneoplasticity, try pico or nano01:57
f3arKumaSan, logged in as f3ar01:57
Travistywhat would you like me to add?01:58
synackuatorare .dmg files mac specific binaries or what?01:58
samu2kethinov, heh, i have the same problem01:58
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KumaSanf3ar, the log seems to suggest that you are root, what does whoami tell you?01:58
samu2the menus are a total mess after i installed kubuntu-desktop01:58
f3arKumaSan, it tells me that i'm f3ar01:58
Dr_Willissynackuator,  disk 'image' files - yes - sort of.01:58
lightbrightTravisty: also try right click on the word System in toolbar and Edit Menu01:58
kethinovsamu2, the problem seems that apt won't remove kde-games without removing all of kde. this seems wrong to me01:58
lightbrightTravisty: maybe you can add it again there01:59
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samu2kethinov, im sure theres a way to do it. i just havent been bothered to find out how.01:59
make100hey folks i got a problem just installed ubuntu.... but when the loginscreen shold appear there only is black screen......01:59
kethinovsamu2, maybe some kind of argument can be passed to apt to ignore the deps?01:59
f3arKumaSan, brb01:59
lightbrightTravisty: not sure, sorry01:59
samu2kethinov, maybe, i prefer synaptic.01:59
christus_aevumOkay, I'm an uber linux newb. Is there a way to install .rpm packages, or is there something else I need to do?01:59
Dr_Willismake100,  try alt-ctrl-F1 - and see if ya can get to the shell. X may need reconfiguring.02:00
synackuatorDr_Willis, o i see.  do you know if they can be opened in linux or extracted or whatever?02:00
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make100ahhh oki will try02:00
make100thx02:00
Dr_Willissynackuator,  not that ive ever seen/tried/.heard about.02:00
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Taliskercan any of you recommend a good, solid, backup utility?02:00
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make100any other suggestions if that not work ?02:00
TravistyI understand adding stuff to that menu, But I used to have the option available under System - Logout02:00
samu2kethinov, maybe you can remove the kubuntu-desktop package without removing the dependent files. and then remove all packages you dont need separately.02:00
Dr_WillisTalisker,  'mondo/mindi' is handy for some people.02:00
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f3arKumaSan, i just logged out...tried to log in as root but i dont know the password...02:00
Abysmaleveing all.. anyone here running ubuntu of a mac??02:00
f3arKumaSan, i guess this means that i dont have root yet...02:00
Dr_WillisAbysmal,  i was a few mo. ago. Not any more.02:01
TaliskerI only want it to cram my entire system as it is into a single file, and the reextract it to a new partition so it'll work just as though nothing ever happened02:01
KumaSanTravisty, as I said, uncomment the line in /etc/defaults/acpi-support02:01
bimberimake100: what's your video card?02:01
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Taliskerdoes that kinda tool exist, or will I have to reinstall?02:01
lightbrightTalisker: I use rsync and works great02:01
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halibutcan you install ubuntu from the live cd?02:01
Taliskerrsync? K02:01
bimberihalibut: no02:01
lightbrightTartaros: ah then you need tar02:01
Dr_Willishalibut,  not at this thime.02:01
make100bimberi ati x60002:01
KumaSanf3ar, forget root, if you didn't set a root password, you don't have access to a root account, Ubuntu does admin by sudo.02:01
bimberiubotu tell make100 about ati02:01
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KumaSanf3ar, now try running sudo ls, and see whaat error shows up02:02
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Taliskerlightbright, I don't need to cram it across the network, only to a diffrent drive02:02
bimberimake100: the link ubotu just sent you should tell you about installing updated ati drivers02:02
f3arKumaSan, no error...nothing at all02:02
bimberimake100: ... something else you could try :)02:02
make100didnt get anything02:02
lightbrightTalisker: i use rsync to make a mirror copy of hda to hdb!  yet you can also use tar, eg>  tar -lcv /|tar --exclude /mnt -C /mnt -x02:02
ubuntuhello02:02
bimberi!ati02:02
ubotuati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1002:02
christus_aevumIs there any documentation on what packages I need to download when I'm trying to install software from sourceforge?02:02
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christus_aevum.rpm is not working02:02
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bimberimake100: ^^^^^02:02
lightbrightTalisker: rsync works best for me02:02
make100ahh there something came02:03
Abysmaldr_willis.. I just got the latest 5.10 and cant get my mac to boot into it.. i used the chooser to select what I wanted to boot.. it flashes an orange screen but goes right back to the chooser.. what am i doing wrong??02:03
Taliskerlightbright, that command you issued basically shoves all my system into a tarball?02:03
lightbrightbimberi:  hello there :)02:03
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zapada2why dont i have make?02:03
bimberihi lightbright :)02:03
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rcmiv+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++02:03
RedRoseis there anyway, VIA a network conenction, that i can control my GUI? not VNC, but manipulate the actually GUI that's up?02:03
KumaSanf3ar, then something serious is borked,  without access via sudo you can't change config files for the system. You can try booting in single user mode, and runing visudo from the console.02:03
zapada2i get error: bash: make: command not found... .whtf02:03
lightbrightTalisker: i use rsync to make a mirror copy of hda to hdb!  it works great and I can even then boot ubuntu off the other hard drive :)02:03
bimberizapada2: not installed by default - sudo aptitude install build-essential02:03
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Dr_WillisAbysmal,  the chooser? Ive never dual-booted on my mac. so it alwyas booted straight to linux.02:03
lightbrightTalisker: isnt that what you wanted?  into a file?02:03
zapada2bimberi, tanks02:04
f3arokay, i guess i'll just reinstall02:04
Taliskerthe question is02:04
KumaSanRedRose, x2x02:04
bimberizapada2: np :)02:04
rcmivsorry...cat...02:04
make100Note: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are not available in Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10)02:04
Taliskerif I'll just tar it all and then extract it on another partition02:04
make100damn am i doomed ?02:04
Abysmaldr_willis.. the option button on boot = chooser..02:04
KumaSanRedRose,  assuming both systems are running X02:04
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f3arKumaSan, thanks for the help...i'm going to reinstall now...i'll be back02:04
KumaSanf3ar, 'l02:04
Taliskerwill it boot properly? [assuming lilo has been reconfigured, of course] 02:04
KumaSanf3ar, 'k02:04
lightbrightTalisker: you will need tar for that02:04
bimberimake100: not sure, reconfiguring X is still worth a try02:04
make100Note: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are not available in Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10)02:04
TravistyKumanSan - I didn't see acpi-support under /etc/default02:04
Abysmalanyone else know how to get the live cd to boot on a mac??02:04
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bimberimake100: ctrl-alt-f1, log in, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:05
Taliskerso what I need to do is to tar my enire fs and then untar it after I split the partition?02:05
KumaSanTravisty, do you have acpi installed? maybe it was removed in the upgrade for some reason?02:05
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lightbrightbimberi: does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  recongifure video card?02:05
zapada2bimberi, i ram that, but i still dont have make02:05
RedRoseKumaSan:Ummm, Well Via A Browser, I Want TO Control My Desktop On Linux From Windows02:05
lightbrightTalisker: why not do as I do?  make a mirror copy?02:06
KumaSanTravisty, acpi-support is the pakage name02:06
bimberilightbright: drivers for it, yes02:06
TaliskerI don't know how to and tarring seems simpler02:06
lightbrightbimberi: ok02:06
TaliskerIs there any real benefit in mirroring it?02:06
RedRoseKumaSan:Got It... x2VNC02:06
bimberilightbright: as well as for keyboard, mouse, monitor02:06
RedRoseTY02:06
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lightbrightTalisker: rsync is more reliable and easier02:06
lightbrightbimberi:  cool02:06
bimberizapada2: really?  did it install something?02:06
KumaSanRedRose, there's a java VNC plugin IIRC, and Linux will work with the rdesktop protocol (same setup that MS-Windows uses for it's remote dektop) if there's a client for the browser for that/02:06
TravistyKumoSan: I have acpi-support installed02:06
cliebowhow do i find what pkg contains samba.schema?02:06
lightbrightTalisker: simply format hdb and mount it02:07
RedRoseKumaSan:Got It... X2VNC02:07
lightbrightTalisker: then rsync everything from hda to hdb02:07
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jnymohi yell02:07
KumaSanRedRose, yep, that'll work too :)02:07
zapada2bimberi, 'couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials"02:07
jnymoyall, rather02:07
lightbrightTravisty: need help wit the command?02:07
KumaSanTalisker, then try reinstalling acpi-support, maybe the file got deleted for some reason.02:07
bimberizapada2: build-essential (no s) :)02:07
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zapada2ah ok :)02:08
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lightbrightTalisker: how big is your source hard drive?02:08
slewjnymo, what brand?02:08
jnymoswisher sweets02:08
Talisker120 gigs, only 5 gigs of data tho :)02:08
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Talisker"tar -lcv /|tar --exclude /mnt -C /mnt -x"02:08
lightbrightTalisker: ok and how big is ytoue destination hdb drive?02:08
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Taliskerwhat doe that -C and -x do when attributed to --exclude?02:09
slewwhats a good system monitor program for gnome?02:09
Talisker27 gigs02:09
Taliskerabout 7 free gigs02:09
lightbrightTalisker: i thought your hdb was empty02:09
Taliskernope02:09
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cyphaseanyone have experience with rtl8180 wireless cards?02:09
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lightbrightTalisker:  whats on it and what filesystem?02:09
Taliskerfiles02:09
Taliskerbackups02:09
Taliskerfat3202:09
KumaSanlater all.02:10
The_Isle_of_Markanyone know why I can't play midi files through alsa?02:10
lightbrightTalisker: ah ok02:10
Travistylightbright: the issue is I lost the ability to hibernate my laptop from the logout menu. I have acpi installed02:10
jnymowas there a point, a few months ago, when ubuntu's package repositories got funky, and everyone had to fix their local configs? cause mine got funky a month or two ago, and now synaptic always tells me "cannot stat package" or something02:10
The_Isle_of_MarkI am not a linux multimedia guru02:10
lightbrightThe_Isle_of_Mark: I cant either02:10
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lightbrightTravisty: ask bimberi02:10
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lightbrightif anyone knows, bimberi  will :)02:10
lightbrightKumaSan: wb :) we missed you02:11
cyphaseAnyone have experience with rtl8180 wireless cards?02:11
lightbright:P02:11
Travistyok, Will do.02:11
TaliskerK02:11
TaliskerI have enough free space02:11
Taliskeris my setting rsyncable?02:11
bimberilightbright: rubbish!02:11
The_Isle_of_Markcyphase yeah02:11
bimberilightbright: :)02:11
lightbrightbimberi:  ;)02:11
The_Isle_of_Markcyphase use ndiswrapper02:11
lightbrightbimberi:  no need to be modest02:12
cyphaseThe_Isle_of_Mark, it isn't working02:12
lightbright:)02:12
F-Lazerdamn this is hard, took me over 15 min to figure out how to install apache02:12
The_Isle_of_Markcyphase while I am working on other things I can help you02:12
jonathonhello how do i add my hdparm settings to the boot?02:12
lightbrightF-Lazer: and now its easy the next time :)02:12
jnymodamn.. maybe I should buy some ubuntu service. anyone know of a really cheap help service for ubuntu?02:13
The_Isle_of_Markcyphase send a private chat and we can work on it02:13
F-Lazeryupp, now i just need to figure out how to start it and lay up a web page02:13
lightbrightF-Lazer: many things are hard at first, then once that has happened, its easy :)02:13
TravistyBimberi: I need some help! Lightbright says that you might know.02:13
The_Isle_of_Markcyphase using one with ndis right now02:13
bimberilightbright: i think you're perception of my knowledge diverges from reality :) (maybe i just type confidently)02:13
lightbrightjonathon: sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf02:13
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jonathonok02:13
lightbrightbimberi:  hehe ;)02:13
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F-Lazerim betting thats gonna take a couple of weeks *new to linux*02:13
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jonathonis gedit or nan better02:14
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lightbrightjonathon: i prefer gedit because im new :)02:14
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Taliskerwhat flag do I use for tar to set the output file?02:14
lightbrightjonathon: experts like vim I have heard :)02:14
The_Isle_of_Markcyphase, still there?02:14
The_Isle_of_Markvim is the best!02:14
The_Isle_of_Markthere I said it02:14
gggHi, I have just installed "sensors" but it didnt updated the kernel modules it needs to work, modules such as support for i2c, etc. How can I do to create and use kernel modules, once I have allready a working Ubuntu linux installation??02:14
TravistyBimberi: so the issue is I lost the ability to hibernate my laptop from the logout menu. I have acpi-support installed.02:15
lightbrightjonathon: what do you want to change to hdparm?02:15
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jonathonlightbright: i find nano very simple to work in the console so i keep it in x too02:15
bimberiTravisty: -c02:15
lightbrightThe_Isle_of_Mark: hehe ;)02:15
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The_Isle_of_Mark!midi02:16
ubotumethinks midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo02:16
lightbrightjonathon: why do you want to edit the hdparm file?02:16
bimberiTravisty: sorry, i've little knowledge of acpi02:16
jonathonlightbright: im trying to get my hdparm settings to not reset everytime i reboot02:17
Travistyok, thank you for at least hearing my plea. I have gone through the forums and am lost. This is a needed feature and I don't much care for suspend2.02:17
lightbrightjonathon: for what drive?  hda hdc?02:17
jonathon/dev/hda02:17
Taliskerlightbright, is it normal for tar -lcP to show me the entire contents of the files it's compressing?02:17
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jonathoni think i have to add it to my rc scripts02:17
lightbrightTalisker: not sure sorry02:18
lightbrightTalisker: man tar02:18
gggHi, I have just installed "sensors" but it didnt updated the kernel modules it needs to work, modules such as support for i2c, etc. How can I do to create and use kernel modules, once I have allready a working Ubuntu linux installation??02:18
TaliskerI tried that02:18
lightbrightjonathon: type this: hdparm /dev/hda02:18
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lightbrightjonathon: does it say DMA is On?02:18
bimberiTravisty: k, sorry i can't help :|02:18
jonathonyes dma is on02:18
jonathonbut i want other features too02:19
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jonathonlightbright: dma is enabled by default02:19
lightbrightjonathon: then you dont need to add it02:19
jonathonthere is more settings than that02:19
lightbrightjonathon: what other features?02:19
jonathonoh never mind i worked it out02:20
bob832if i setup ssh to access my machine remotely, do i need to install firestarter?02:21
lightbrightjonathon: :)02:21
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Taliskerlightbright, I give up, tar is'nt work properly, could you help me with that rsync?02:21
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bimberibob832: no02:21
lightbrightTalisker: rsync will copy file by file, mirror image02:21
bob832simple answer:  thanks02:21
lightbrightTalisker: thats what I do and works great for me!  is that what you want?02:21
TaliskerYeah02:22
bimberibob832: np :) (and nick completion nearly got me again :) )02:22
TaliskerI want it to copy my entire root directory to /media/oldfiles/Backup202:22
Taliskerhow do I do that?02:22
lightbrightTalisker: ok type: from root of source hard drive: rsync -avxH / /mnt02:22
lightbrightTalisker: first mount hdb to /mnt02:22
Taliskercan't I use the current mountpoint?02:23
kovudoes anyone know if i can explicitly tell the gnome control center (or nautilus) which character encoding it should use?02:23
lightbrightTalisker: mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt02:23
lightbrightTalisker: sorry, type this: mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt02:23
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Taliskerwhat's wrong with the current mount point?02:23
kghey02:23
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lightbrightTalisker:  where is it mounted now?02:23
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jnymoanybody ever bought one of those canonical support deals?02:24
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kgI had ruby1.8 installed, i installed ruby1.9, then removed ruby1.8, the link ruby -> ruby1.9 is gone, how do I make it appear again? except manually linking?02:24
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kgI mean, what's the 'proper' way?02:24
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wsmith\02:24
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Agrajagsudo ln -s /usr/bin/ruby1.9 /usr/bin/ruby02:24
bimberijnymo: anyone who has wouldn't need to come here :)02:25
jnymovery true.. this many speaks truth02:25
kgAgrajag: yes, I know how to link files. But the package manager can do stuff when installing packages. Stuff I might not know about.02:25
lightbrightTalisker: ok type from root of source hard drive: rsync -avxH / (placeofmount)02:25
Agrajagso force-reinstall ruby1.902:25
jnymos/many/man02:25
kgAgrajag: that's a bit aggresive02:26
Agrajagor try dpkg-reconfigure on it02:26
navarones/many men/many women...<s>02:26
kgAgrajag: this did not work02:26
gggHi, I have just installed "sensors" but it didnt updated the kernel modules it needs to work, modules such as support for i2c, etc. How can I do to create and use kernel modules, once I have allready a working Ubuntu linux installation??02:26
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kghmm, package irb needs ruby1.8, so I guess it's back to 1.8 anyway :<02:27
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jnymois there a place I can get a whole new sources.list file? with some nice extra repositories already in it? I think mine is messed up. :(02:27
bimberi!easysource02:28
ubotumethinks easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:28
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bimberijnymo: ^^^02:28
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jnymoaaawesome02:28
navaroneggg> take a look at this thread may hold the answer  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lm-sensors02:29
Madpilotggg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto02:29
samu2oh theres an easysource thingy these days. thats nice.02:29
lightbrightTalisker: how did it work out?02:29
bimberijnymo: it is :)02:29
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navaronewhenever I see the word "wiki" I tyhink of hula dancers...lol02:29
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navaroneidky02:29
jnymoomfg.. thats like.. the greates thing.. ever02:31
navaronebimberi...does the easy source provide repos that may have unstable deb?02:31
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wickedpuppynavarone, you want unstable debs ? why ?02:31
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IXIguys what is the command on unbuntu to get root access for th elive cd? isnt it sudo su?02:32
wickedpuppyIXI, sudo -s02:32
IXIwickedpuppy, thought so02:32
navaronewicked...I was wondering so as to avoid them02:32
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navaroneIf I choose i386..will it still provide for k7 arch?02:33
wickedpuppynavarone, btw easy source is a configurator ... look at the bot description02:33
navaroneI am there now wicked02:33
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Kerrhow can i get hardware rendering with my nvidia card?02:34
gggthanks02:34
wickedpuppyKerr, installed the driver yet ?02:35
Kerrcurrently using nv.02:35
Kerrmigrated from sarge 'cause of a hdd crash02:35
The_Isle_of_Mark!midi02:35
ubotumidi is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo02:35
wickedpuppy!nvidia02:35
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:36
Kerrthanks02:36
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TravistyAnyone have any ideas on how to fix this issue with AmaroK???02:36
TravistyCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:02:36
Travistyklauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'.02:36
Travisty.02:36
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kvanttihi! some guy gave me the address for the link which contains the solve for wolfenstein et no sound problem in ubuntu. are you still there? i need to get that address again, thanks.02:37
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wickedpuppykvantti, what does it look like  ? part of it ?02:38
lightbrightTalisker: how did it work out with rsync?02:38
wickedpuppywe can probably guess02:38
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kvanttiwickedpuppy i have no idea. i was very tired yesterday..02:38
laszlokTravisty: are you trying to play an audio cd?02:38
wickedpuppykvantti, perhaps firefox remembers02:38
kvanttiwickedpuppy i even didn't have a look at it. i'l try to find it myself..02:39
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Travistyno, I receive that error when ever I launch AmaroK.02:39
JBBAokay...i'm really new to linux.. how do i get something to install through a tgz file or folder or whatever?02:39
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laszlokTravisty: try using a different engine02:40
jnymoso.. do you guys go with all the repositories on that list? or just some?02:40
laszlokTravisty: you'll probably get better help if you ask in #amarok02:40
JBBAdoes anyone know?02:40
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wickedpuppyJBBA, you don't use source file ... check out system -> admin -> synaptic02:41
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Alinuxhowto make Gnome more faster?02:41
ubuntuhey02:41
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JBBAthankyou very much02:41
ubuntuhey guys02:41
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ubuntuim new02:41
wickedpuppyAlinux, get more ram02:41
ubuntuplz help02:41
bimberinavarone: (sry, got called away) as it says, some of the repositories "should only be used with caution and if you know what you are doing!"02:41
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wickedpuppyubuntu, i can see .. ask in one line02:41
Alinuxwickedpuppy, 51202:41
lightbrightbye everyone :)02:41
ubuntuok02:42
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AlinuxI have a laptop02:42
wickedpuppyAlinux, so is mine ... its fine here02:42
JBBAthen what do i do in there?02:42
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ubuntui am trying to run or download aim or something so i can get on my screen name but im running on a LIVE-CD and i dont know if this is possible02:42
wickedpuppyAlinux, p4 2 gig ... 512 ram02:42
TravistyI get the same error when changing engines. I'll ask in the AmoroK channel. Thanks02:42
wickedpuppyJBBA, install whatever you want to02:42
Siph0nubuntu: just use Gaim?02:42
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Siph0nubuntu: it comes with it i think?02:42
wickedpuppyubotu, gaim should be in the live cd02:42
ubotuwickedpuppy: I give up, what is it?02:42
jnymoubuntu: you'll have to to it again, each time you reboot02:43
ubuntuok i opened it02:43
chem199I have a question about a problem I am having installing ubuntu, does anyone here think they can help me?02:43
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Alinuxwickedpuppy, 2700 MZ, my question is there some ways to get gnome faster?02:43
JBBAwhat i wanted wasn't in there...i'm looking for thunderbird02:43
ubuntui know im just testing ubuntu out before i partition02:43
eric_Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?  Is it working for you right now?02:43
Alinuxwithout hardware upgrade.02:43
wickedpuppychem199, ask ... if nobody answers then nobody knows02:43
ubuntuok im in "gaim"02:43
cyphaseThe_Isle_of_Mark02:43
ubuntubut how do i log onto my aim account?02:43
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navaronebimberi> thanks...i got one made with the basic ones and one or two extras...but I think just switching to almost all ca archives may help...I just saved to text file...no hurry to much around yet...its late and I want to be thinking clearly...<s>02:43
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wickedpuppyAlinux, get more ram or use xfce , fluxbox ... gnome is sluggish ...02:43
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wickedpuppyubuntu, create an account ?02:44
pr3vi0uzu have too add the acoount for  which u wanna use  like aim,yahoo.msn02:44
chem199I am installing ubuntu breezy, and after I type in my username and password it hangs at 25% and never moves, can anyone shed some light on how to fix this?02:44
Alinuxor use puppy linux ? :D02:44
ubuntuok i typed in my screen name and password and protocol "AIM/ICQ"02:44
wickedpuppyAlinux, up to you ...02:44
zapadacan someone please send me a 56k modem that doesnt need drivers?02:44
ubuntuwhat is an alias?02:44
meherencan som1 tell me how to move file using command line?02:44
bimberinavarone: :).  Best to only have the non-ubuntu repos enabled for installs, not (dist-)upgrades02:44
cyphaseThe_Isle_of_Mark, you there?02:44
wickedpuppymeheren, mv02:44
dabaRubuntu: ctrl+a, then click "add" select your account, input login information, and then get the account online.02:45
ubuntuim lucky i found this program02:45
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wickedpuppychem199, your user name and pasword ... which part of the install ?02:45
dabaRubuntu: it is a nickname. instead of your sign in name.02:45
jvaignomebaker stalls while burning audio.. >:(02:45
navaronebimberi> I don't go for major changes..I am a firm beliwver in if it aint broke...leave it02:45
JBBAwhat i was looking for wasn't in there02:45
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chem199the last part02:45
ubuntucan it just be ubuntu02:45
wickedpuppyJBBA, what are you looking for ?02:45
dabaRmeheren: ubotu will tell you02:45
JBBATHunder Bird02:45
meherensoo for an example if i wass to move /home/test to /home/meheren/ the i would type mv /home/test /home/meheren/?02:45
wickedpuppyJBBA, thunder bird is definitely in repos02:45
bimberinavarone: you too eh :)02:45
chem199wickedpuppy: if i try to restart it says there is no os on the computer02:45
JBBAokay02:45
ubuntui love this os02:46
eric_Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?  Is it working for you right now?02:46
ubuntuive been windows all my life02:46
jvaii never thought gnomebaker would stall the whole hoary, i had to hard reset02:46
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wickedpuppyJBBA, search for mozilla02:46
ubuntui dont get any of this yall are talking about02:46
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JBBAokay thnx02:46
navaronebimberi...my win2k setup has survived 2 years or more with no major troubles...I only install the programs that time has taught me to trust02:46
wickedpuppyubuntu, the switch will take some times to get used to ... be patient02:46
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ubuntuok i tried to log in and it said incorrect nickname or password02:47
ubuntuim pretty sure my pass is right..02:47
dabaRjvai: you can try k3b, or nautilus burns data cds and dvds too.02:47
wickedpuppyubuntu, then your username is wrong02:47
pingsweptHi all. Is there a way that I can verify a burned iso image? I've verified the iso file using md5sum, but I can't get any machine to boot off the CD. (I can browse the disk and read the few text files, though.)02:47
ubuntuis that the username i am logged in as?02:47
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jvaino, k3b,, i want all gnome apps02:47
dabaRwhat alias?02:47
ubuntuyes02:47
dabaRjvai: ok, cool, feel free to do as you please.02:47
ubuntui think i am in "root"02:47
dabaROK, are you asking about an alias in gaim, ubuntu?02:48
wickedpuppyubuntu, what does root got to do with aim ?02:48
bhearsumevery time i use aptitude it wants to remove a TON of core packages. i've tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but that doesn't change anything.02:48
bhearsumits only aptitude that does it, not apt-get02:48
ubuntui dont know.. im not good at this02:48
dabaRbhearsum: use sudo apt-get remove to remove single packages.02:48
pr3vi0uzpingswept is  it being burned as Image ?02:48
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bhearsumdabaR: i'm not removing packages...i'm trying to get aptitude to STOP trying to remove most of my system02:48
ubuntuprotocol = aim screenname = thisis1crazyboy password = (mypass) and alias = what02:48
dabaRbhearsum: it is a feature.02:48
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bhearsumi know its a feature.02:49
navaronebhearsum> I had similar concerns today when trying to remove bittorrent...it listed ubuntu-desktop as something it had to remove...<?>02:49
dabaRbhearsum: ok, then, what are you asking?02:49
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bhearsumnavarone: bittorrent..hmm. i did recently install that02:49
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bhearsumdabaR: i'm trying to get it to stop doing that02:49
pingsweptpr3vi0uz: I believe so. It comes out looking like a normal CD with a hierarchy of files, rather than a data CD with one big .iso file on it.02:49
wickedpuppyubuntu, you leave alias blank02:49
ubuntuoh02:49
dabaRbhearsum: why, that is what it does. use apt-get for the other task.02:49
bhearsumdude.02:49
bhearsumnevermind.02:49
KnowerrorsAnyone here ever use Linspire?02:49
Howdy125I removed evolution and it removed my desktop.02:49
wickedpuppyubuntu, i can't help ya much there ... i only use gaim for icq and msn02:49
Alinuxsimple aptitude howto ?02:50
Howdy125Knowerrors, I have02:50
navaronebhearsum> does it list ubuntu-desktop to be removed because bittorrent is part of default packages installed and it considers itself part of it?02:50
wickedpuppyKnowerrors, wrong channel ? #linspire02:50
dabaRAlinux: ask what you would like to know, I can tell you a few things...02:50
ubuntuWICKED!!02:50
dabaROr others too02:50
ubuntuTY !!!!!!!02:50
ubuntuIT WORKED!!02:50
KnowerrorsI went to # linspire, pretty dead in there02:50
wickedpuppyok ok .. pls don't shout02:50
ubuntuok 1 more question02:50
bhearsumnavarone: it just has a huge list of packages to remove02:50
ubuntusorry wicked02:50
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bhearsumnavarone: is there any way to find out what package is causing it?02:50
dabaRbhearsum: is ubuntu-desktop one of the packages?02:51
KnowerrorsHowdy125: how does the speed of Linspire compare to ubuntu?  I heard its was slow to boot and desktop speed lagged compared with most linux distros02:51
bhearsumno02:51
navaronebhearsum> I figures as much when i look at the dependencies...I wisely left it I think...lol02:51
eric_Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?02:51
ubuntuwell.. do you think that my internet connection is slow just in ubuntu or is it just because im on a live cd?? cuz i am on DSL and pages take awhile to load02:51
dabaRbhearsum: is your question maybe why it is doing that?02:51
bhearsummy question is how to get it to stop doing taht02:51
AlinuxdabaR, I use the main apt-get commands so I heard about dselect and aptitude, dselect is not simple for me... so I would like to learn basical thinks in aptitude.02:51
bhearsumthat, rather02:51
dabaRok02:51
Howdy125Knowerrors, Linspire is very slow compaired to Ubuntu.02:51
wickedpuppyubuntu, live cd ... cd is slower than harddisk .. :P02:52
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The_Isle_of_Markgah, you work in an environment for years and never configure sound...then you want midi playback and BANG brick wall...who can help me get this stinking midi to work?02:52
ubuntuok so its not my internet?? if i were to install ubuntu onto my c drive it would run beter02:52
SCMarkAlinux: you should try synaptic02:52
navaronedabaR>I was saying how when trying to uninstall bittorrent in synaptic it tells me it has to remove ubunut-desktop...with no mention of bittorrent I might add...weird02:52
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wickedpuppyubuntu, definitely ...02:52
ubuntuP.S. - sorry about my name..02:52
ubuntu(its lovely but im a noobie)02:53
AlinuxSCMark, yes I know, but I would like to learn something non gui :)02:53
dabaRAlinux: well, aptitude can be used similar to apt-get. When you know a package name, you can type: sudo aptitude install packageName. To remove,  sudo aptitude remove packageName. to search aptitude search packageName. YOu can also type in just sudo aptitude, and use the graphical interface.02:53
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dabaRnavarone: not really weird. Here is how it works, Alinux you listen to this part too.02:53
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Alinuxdabar very similar to apt-get :)02:53
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wickedpuppyAlinux, man aptitude ? :P02:54
infamusok all i have wine installed, and cannot find it to run it in any of my folders at all, does anyone know the default location i should go to run it? or is there something more sinister i need to do02:54
The_Isle_of_Markcan anyone help me troubleshoot my midi playback?02:54
SCMarkAlinux: just type "?" in aptitude02:54
Alinuxwickedpuppy, man after simple howto ok :)02:54
dabaRWhen a package is installed with aptitude, aptitude remembers what packages were installed as dependencies. Then when you remove the package with aptitude, it removes all installed dependencies that came with it.02:54
steven_hey everyone... i am a little puzzled about something.  i downloaded the java jdk 1.5 verison (bin) from the sun site.  i used the fakeroot to create a deb java package.  After i installed the package, I went to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun and typed in java -version.  i was expecting to see java verison '1.5....'; but, i get java verison 1.4.2.  Does anyone know why this is the case?02:54
kvanttiwhat about the support for dvb-t standard digital television card support in ubuntu? i wonder if any european user here owns and runs that kind of hardware?02:54
wickedpuppyinfamus, just type wine ? if you got it from the repos and installed it via apt-get02:54
agabus_i need some help with modprobe. i am trying to setup my new wireless adapter for my laptop. but long story short since i messed up some of the configuration before hand i have some trouble.02:54
jnymook.. I have this question.. it's a little long winded though..02:54
AlinuxdabaR, reat...I'm copyng :)02:55
Alinuxgreat02:55
wickedpuppysteven_, ls -l java ... what you get ?02:55
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navaronedabaR> does that mean it can break dependencies of other packages?02:55
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jnymoerm.. firrst.. whats that xchat command to make commands go into the chat?02:55
dabaRubuntu-desktop is a package that is really only a list of dependencies. When you remove any package that is its dependency, it gets removed too, as it can not be on the system any more, as one of its dependencies is uninstalled.02:55
wickedpuppyjnymo, you don't paste here ... pastebin02:55
agabus_when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper i get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found". could someone please help me load ndiswrapper into the modprobe.02:56
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dabaRIf you ever install ubuntu-desktop with aptitude, and then try to uninstall  one of the packages that came with it, all other packagfes that came with it will be pulled with ubuntu-desktop, using the first rant rule above.02:56
jnymowickedpuppy: I know, but thats directly related to my problem.. that xchat command used to work, but now it doesn't02:56
kvanttii am going to get a ads hybrid card for christmas. i hope i can make it run..02:56
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wickedpuppyjnymo, copy paste will do02:56
dabaRinfamus: just type wine programName in a terminal.02:56
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navaronedabaR> I am just gonna leave it... I gave ubuntu 14 gb fora  reason...<s>02:57
wickedpuppynavarone, i give it all my HD02:57
infamusdabaR: thanks02:57
AlinuxdabaR, aha.. good... everything clear.02:57
agabus_anyone? im sure its something simple...02:57
SCMarkis it possible to open the latest quicktime movies with mplayer?  I know VLC can02:57
jnymowickedpuppy: I have nothing to copy and paste.. its just that many things on my desktop that sent commands to bash are now broken because the paths in bash are messed up or something...02:57
Ep|phanyhi i installed gstreamer0.8-mad so i could use mp3 filles with amorok but now i cant control the volume and when i click the sound icon it tells me theres nothing registered and i have to run gst-register02:57
dabaRjnymo: /exec -o command02:57
Ep|phanyanyone have any ideas?02:57
dabaRjnymo: #flood02:57
kvanttinavarone i got ubuntu on a 160 gb partition. it will really get crowded when i get that mpeg2 enconding dvb-t card ;)02:57
dabaRI have an idea, unrelated to your qeustion./02:57
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ubuntuwickidpuppy: how do i go to this server02:58
steven_ ls -l java*02:58
steven_total 002:58
steven_lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-11-26 23:43 javaws -> ../bin/javaws02:58
navaronewickedpuppy> I have win2k on primary drive and some windows partions set up on second drive and ubuntu using the free space... I found that way easier to do. The auto partitioning worked great02:58
jnymohi02:58
ubuntui dont even know how i got here in the first place.. i accidentally clicked somethin and popped up here02:58
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wickedpuppyubuntu, what ? you are in this server now02:58
dabaREp|phany: gst0.8-register02:58
jnymook.. that worked02:58
ubuntuwel yea but if i have to leave02:58
navaronelol@kvanti02:58
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ubuntucan i ... put it in favs or something?02:58
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Bac9tali: ping02:58
wickedpuppyubuntu, go to X-chat -> Server list02:58
malvwindows and ubuntu report different times02:59
nickrudEp|phany, gst-register-0.802:59
malvhow do I fix this?02:59
dabaRnickrud: ^;)02:59
kvanttinavarone i'm just a hardware freak ;)02:59
Ep|phanyis it in synaptic?02:59
dabaRnickrud: really?02:59
nickruddabaR, I was reading your aptitude tutorial :)02:59
trygvexorg question for you all:  if I'm getting very thin white lines very briefly appearing on the left border of the screen and at least the right (possibly also left) border of windows, especially when moving the mouse around, should I be troubleshooting the mouse itself, the video driver, or something else entirely?02:59
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Ep|phanynevermind02:59
HrdwrBoBtrygve: video driver02:59
varsendaggeranyone use afterstep 2.x?02:59
jnymoI just did an /exec -o echo hi .. and it worked02:59
dabaRnickrud: youres is right, anyhow...02:59
WebLOCHHey guys, anyone here do any database modelling?  Im looking for a suitable linux tool that will let me visually design/map/create a database...03:00
niggpieDoes anyone here use GmailFS?03:00
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paxmasteris there a way to encrypt files in a command line03:00
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AndreLtRhow can iinstall it with windows without destroying the xp data please?03:00
nickruddabaR, you were busy, I just did a quick backstop for you, hope you didn't mind03:00
ivanhi, i have just upgraded to breezy and now i cant login to gnome03:00
ubuntuso i just add what names i want03:00
dabaRnickrud: remember that choosing of default java program?03:00
trygveoh, and occasionally when I first go to move the mouse, it sometimes shoots back and forth across the screen (horizontally, only, no vertical movement at all), and usually registers a fair few scrolling, clicking, and right clicking events in the process03:00
dabaRHow it is run...03:00
Ep|phanyokay i can adjust the volume threw the icon now but its still showing it as having an X03:00
ubuntuis this the default ubuntu server?03:00
nickrudupdate-alternatives ?03:00
kvanttiso, does someone run a dvb-t card in ubuntu?03:00
nickrudupdate-alternatives --config java, you mean?03:00
jnymowickedpuppy: but it all started when I did an autoupdate and bash wanted to update.. after the update it told me that it wanted to make a new bashrc.. and i was like "hell naw" cause of all the work I put into making it work with java and whatnot.. well, then stuff stopped working03:01
dabaRyes. steven_ try that what nickrud said above.03:01
dabaRpaxmaster: search the wiki about gpg, maybe there...03:01
Ep|phanyi ran gst-register-0.8 but i still cant adjust the volume03:01
jnymomy paths still worked.. while working /from/ bash.. but the desktop was not accessing bash's paths right03:01
dabaRAndreLtR: install ubuntu is it?03:01
Ep|phanyis there anyway i can restore defaults?03:01
AndreLtRquit03:01
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AlinuxdabaR, I'm in aptitude, how can I search a package to have detiled output?03:02
dabaRivan: why cant you?03:02
wickedpuppyjnymo, bash should not move from /bin ?03:02
ivani can't type my username in gdm :'(03:02
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Alinuxand ho can I rip in mp3 format with sound-juicer?03:02
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KnowerrorsDoes anyone know of a Breezy Extras CD, with all the multimedia plugins, codecs, fonts etc that Easy Ubuntu and Automatix download?  I need one to give to a dialup modem user for ubuntu03:02
dabaRAlinux: I dont use it in teh graphical mode, try the ? key as someone suggested, it has its manual built in.03:02
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trygveokay, so I should have clarified, *how* should I go about troubleshooting my video problem, then?  any pointers on getting started?03:03
AlinuxI have only wav ogg and flac formats03:03
wickedpuppyKnowerrors, use of automatix is not encouraged03:03
nickrudEp|phany, I'd suggest using the preferences of the volume control to try controlling a different mixer slider.03:03
dabaRAlinux: mp3 is a non-free format, and more lossy than the free ogg format. try that one, it is good.03:03
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mweicherthow can I implement user profiles on linux, like done in windows?03:03
Ep|phanynickrud i did that it doesnt work though03:03
jnymowickedpuppy: it didn't move, and desktop apps were reaching bash.. but it's like they could execute commands that bash depended on the path for..03:03
theCorepaxmaster: first you need to have gpg key, then you can encrypt your file with 'gpg --encrypt FILE'03:03
AlinuxdabaR, I know, but I have mp3 player ...not ogg :(03:03
dabaRivan: can you type any user name?03:03
jnymowickedpuppy: s/could/couldn't03:03
AlinuxI know that ogg is better.03:03
fulldwhat's file sharing client that works out of the box with ubuntu and is not amule (assuming the user has already set up mp3 support)03:03
ivandabaR: nothing, just spaces and >>>03:03
wickedpuppyjnymo, forget desktop apps ... try them in commandline and see what error you get03:03
nickrudEp|phany, try running alsa-mixer and see if you can control the volume there03:04
navaroneKnowerrors> I think you can burn the cached packages to a cd and give to your friend if that would be easier...<?>03:04
dabaRKnowerrors: just download the packages, and burn as data CD, and give him.03:04
jnymowickedpuppy: from the commandline, everything works fine03:04
Knowerrorswickedpuppy: yeah, I heard that before, that was just an example, I just need a cd with some of those packages to get the ubuntu system for them complete03:04
steven_wow that worked.  i don't know how you guys figure this stuff out... i have been racking my brain for a few hours03:04
dabaRtrygve: what is the video problem?03:04
trygvebecause those little white lines when moving the mouse, I can live with.  but the brief spaz-fest that sometimes happens when I go to move the mouse is intolerable03:04
Ep|phanynickrud how do i run alsa-mixer03:04
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dabaRsteven_: we come here often, and see the issue over and over.03:04
WebLOCHEp|phany, from the console type alsa-mixer03:04
wickedpuppyjnymo, then right click on the apps ... check their command see they are same as what you typed on the command line03:04
steven_lol03:04
jnymowickedpuppy: wow.. theres a lot of traffic in here03:04
nickrudEp|phany, type alsamixer in a terminal03:04
trygvedabaR:  "oh, and occasionally when I first go to move the mouse, it sometimes shoots back and forth across the screen (horizontally, only, no vertical movement at all), and usually registers a fair few scrolling, clicking, and right clicking events in the process"03:04
navaroneepiphany> go to terminal and type alsamixer03:04
Knowerrorsnavarone: Im on dialup modem too03:04
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jnymowickedpuppy: k.. will do.. thanks03:05
dabaRmweichert: what is a user profile in windows?03:05
navaroneKnowerrors> ouch...I feel for you...was on 56k for four years03:05
Travistywhat is the recomendation on converting aac (m4p) to mp3?03:05
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KnowerrorsdabaR: I can go to a university lab and download burn a cd iso there, but not packages, because univeristy runs windows03:05
varsendaggeranyone able to record audio with rosegarden?03:05
trygveubuntu detected and set it up as a ProSavage video controller, which is certainly possible, I'm not sure.  it's integrated on the motherboard03:05
neoplasticityis there a way to pick which packages?03:05
wickedpuppyKnowerrors, download the packages ... burn as data03:05
neoplasticityare installed?03:06
mweichertdabaR: sorry, I used the wrong term. I'm looking for a GPO equivalent03:06
wickedpuppyneoplasticity, synaptic03:06
asproTravisty: AFAIK jHymn cant get rid of the drm from itunes 6 downloaded tunes03:06
dabaRtrygve: this happens often?03:06
The_Isle_of_Markha! stinking modules not loading take that! now the midi works!03:06
trygvevery03:06
neoplasticityi mean on first install?03:06
dabaRmweichert: what is gpo?03:06
wickedpuppyneoplasticity, synaptic03:06
Ep|phanynickrud if i adjust master volume it works03:06
neoplasticitybecause i dont have the hard drive space03:06
mweichertdabaR: Group Policy Object03:06
WebLOCHAnyone know of any decent database modelling tools ?03:06
trygveI'd say at least once every 5min of normal usage03:06
Ep|phanyso is there like a plugin i deleted or something?03:06
neoplasticityi dont have access to synaptic until the install is done03:06
jnymodabaR: its the home folder that is created in c:/documents and settings/03:06
neoplasticityand the install fails03:06
mweichertdabaR: I want users only to be able to perform specific tasks03:06
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neoplasticitybecause i dont have the disk space03:07
neoplasticitysee the conundrum?03:07
wickedpuppyneoplasticity, oh you mean pre install ... eh ah ... you need no more than 5 gig03:07
nickrudEp|phany, I'm not sure :) I can usually get my sound to work, but I don't always understand what I've done.03:07
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neoplasticityi have 1.6 gigs03:07
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trygvebut it's only when first moving the mouse from rest, if I keep it moving, even slightly, there's no problem, but if I'm typing and then reach over to take the mouse, it might spaz out, click a few things unintentionally, change window focus, create new folders on the desktop, etc03:07
trygveall sorts of annoying stuff03:07
neoplasticityi dont want gnome03:07
neoplasticityor gimp03:07
neoplasticityor open office03:07
dabaRmweichert: system>admin>users and groups.03:07
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kvanttimweichert you can define user rights in the system/administration/users and groups tool rights section03:07
wickedpuppyneoplasticity, server install then03:07
dabaRWebLOCH: for ERDs?03:07
neoplasticityi just need xfce and firefox03:07
nickrudneoplasticity, then when you install, select the server install03:07
WebLOCHdabaR, yeah that would do for now03:08
WebLOCHdabaR, been searching the repos but not finding much, just db libs lol03:08
dabaRKnowerrors: packages.ubuntu.com03:08
neoplasticitydoes server install give x windows?03:08
bimberineoplasticity: no03:08
wickedpuppyneoplasticity, nope btw xfce is not in the install cd i think03:08
Knowerrorswickedpuppy: his computer is 466mhz 256mb ram, plus hes used to windows, should I go with Kubuntu, Ubuntu, or Xubunut?03:08
dabaRneoplasticity: server install.03:08
jnymoanyone got that qemu accelerator installed on ubuntu?03:08
mweichertkvantti: I noticed that... but I'm looking for more control. I want users to only have the ability to run 5 particular applications03:09
dabaRWebLOCH: dia.03:09
nickrudneoplasticity, no, you would do apt-get install x-window-system-core to get basic X functionality.03:09
wickedpuppyKnowerrors, whats the difference ? ubuntu will do :P you can change to anyother later03:09
nickrudand apt-get install twm :)03:09
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WebLOCHdabaR, ty shall try it out03:09
trygveso, any suggestsion dabaR, or others?03:09
trygveor am I on my own here =)03:09
anton_Hiya peoples03:10
trygveevenin' anton03:10
anton_Is there a way I can have Breezy output my sound in mono rather than stereo?03:10
dabaRtrygve: never heard before.03:10
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WebLOCHdabaR, lol this is nice, but i was hoping for something to do backlground work for me03:10
HedgeMageAlinux: what player?03:10
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trygvewell thanks anyway, dabaR03:10
dabaRWebLOCH: what is bg work?03:11
Alinuxmp3 player03:11
HedgeMageAlinux: never mind, I wasn't scrolling, didn't realize how old that convo was...03:11
dabaRWebLOCH: dia is very good, just get a hang of it.03:11
Alinuxmagnex :)03:11
WebLOCHdabaR, i just wanted something with dialogs where i add fields then drag lines etc lol03:11
WebLOCHdabaR, rather than s omething where i do all the data model logic myself03:11
HedgeMageAlinux: I haven't heard of that one... was just curious because many do handle ogg now03:11
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WebLOCHdabaR, no doubt, it looks pretty handy actually, i wont be removing it03:11
AlinuxHedgeMage, I would like rip mp3 format from sound-juicer :)03:11
AlinuxHedgeMage, I know :(03:12
HedgeMageAlinux: I'm not familiar with sound juicer... I have used grip, though, which handles both mp3 and ogg03:12
anton_You see, my problem is that I only own one speaker, and mp3s that use multiple channels don't sound right...03:12
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AlinuxHedgeMage, I know goobox too.. more intuitive then grip03:12
nickrudAlinux, the manual for sound-juicer has instructions for setting up mp3 ripping at the end of the preferences section.03:13
Alinuxgrip is powerfull but not simple.03:13
Alinuxnickrud, ah...just a moment03:13
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mweichertwant I want to be able to do I think, is add multiple groups to a file or directory03:13
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mweichertand then set the permissions for each group03:13
dhonnhelp my Applications menu doesnt work03:14
dhonnplaces and systems work though03:14
HedgeMageAlinux: I find grip amazingly simple, but I'm used to doing it in CLI ;)03:14
_jasondhonn, have you restarted X?03:14
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dhonnyeah03:15
dhonnit hasnt worked in days03:15
_jasondhonn, does ALT+F1 do anything?03:15
dhonni click it it shows really fast03:15
dabaRdhonn: what is doesnt work mean?03:15
dhonnthen it disappears03:15
dabaRok03:15
anton_the best menus are Places and System anyways ;)03:15
os2macwith reference to the ubuntu live CD is there a list of boot options somewhere?/03:15
Alinuxnickrud, wooow :)03:16
dabaRdhonn: have you tried adding a new custom menu bar, by right clicking the panel>add to panel?03:16
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AlinuxI did... simple very very simple :)03:16
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nickrudAlinux, ;)03:16
Alinuxnickrud, thank you ubu-bro :)03:16
dhonnyeah03:16
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Alinuxnickrud, finally GREATE!03:16
retershould i switch to breezy?03:17
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os2macanyone?03:17
dabaRreter: thats not a great question.03:17
dhonni added a menu bar and a main menu03:17
reterhi dabar03:17
mweichertaha, linux ACLs!03:17
dhonnthey both dont work03:17
dhonnjust Places and System work03:17
dabaRos2mac: most likely on the cd, cause, that is what boots the options...03:17
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reterdabar, i have hoary right now and i just wonder if breezy would be lighter on my computer since my laptop is a bit old03:17
os2maclooked... there are no text files to speak of...03:18
dabaRreter: likely not. try a different window manager, ubotu will tell you some tips in pm.03:18
Knowerrorswickedpuppy: "... use of automatix is not encouraged" Why is that?03:18
os2macI would have expected something like knoppix....03:18
anton_breezy certainly SOUNDS lighter than hoary...03:18
reterdabar, what good is breezy?03:18
infamusis there a way to have higher resolutions than 1024X768?03:19
nickrudos2mac, f2 - f10(?) at initial startup of the install has the options available, so the text is there somewhere03:19
bimberios2mac: Press F1 at the boot prompt03:19
dabaRreter: another non-answerable question.03:19
reterok03:19
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f3arvarsendagger, you there?03:19
reterthanks for the help then03:19
dabaRubotu: tell infamus about fixres03:19
dabaRsure03:19
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varsendaggerf3ar, yeah03:20
varsendaggerwhat up?03:20
os2macI am on an installed kubuntu system... I am doing research for another friend.... who want's to use the live CD first... I don't have his computer...and don't want to reboot mine....03:20
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os2macdoes anyone know where I can find them online?03:20
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mweicherthow do I get ACLs in ubuntu?03:20
_jasonos2mac, find what?03:20
f3arvarsendagger, i reinstall ubuntu 5.10 breezy...and i'm trying to install mplayer...03:21
f3arim in synaptic right now03:21
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f3arvarsendagger, however there is no mplayer package to be found03:21
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binaMaybe you are missing some mirror03:21
anton_okay, last time - does anyone know how I can get mono sound output in ubuntu?03:21
_jasonubotu, tell f3ar about mplayer03:21
dabaRf3ar: ad multiverse: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html03:21
binaon the /etc/apt/source file03:21
Trashcanwheres that crazy bob guy03:22
varsendaggerf3ar, send me your /etc/sources.list03:22
dabaR/etc/apt/sources.list03:22
os2maca list of the boot options available....03:22
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dabaRmweichert: what is acl?03:22
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mweichertaccess control lists03:23
os2maceww... acl's03:24
duke3zhi-- i've destroied my repository sources.list.  ooohhh noooo03:24
f3arvarsendagger, i think i got it..03:24
dabaRis it a linux thing?03:24
dabaR!easysource03:24
ubotumethinks easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:24
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duke3zthank you ubotu03:24
os2mac!live CD boot options03:24
ubotuos2mac: I don't know, could you explain it?03:24
Knowerrorswickedpuppy: "...use of automatix is not encouraged" why is that?03:24
MrPocketsif i have a USB flash drive, but i unmounted it03:24
MrPocketshow to i remount it?03:24
varsendaggerf3ar, you got it?03:24
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os2mac!live CD03:25
ubotuos2mac: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:25
bimberios2mac: have a look in the isolinux directory on the LiveCD, particularly f5 to f7.txt03:25
wickedpuppyKnowerrors, cause it installs things without asking for user first ... thats what its supposed to do btw03:25
Ep|phanyis there a way to reinstall audio drivers?03:25
dabaR f3ar out of curiosity, what instructions page did you use?03:25
mweichertos2mac: can you help me get acls on ubuntu?03:25
dabaRMrPockets: put it in again.03:26
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Knowerrorswickedpuppy: thx03:26
KnowerrorsAnyone know a good cheap place to get PC100 SDRAM?03:26
lexhidershould installing ubuntu-calendar give me new entries in the "change desktop background" dialog?03:26
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dabaRKnowerrors: google does.03:26
wickedpuppymeheren, acl is no more than rwxrwxrwx ?03:26
os2macmweichert... I don't know enough about acl's on linux to help you03:26
meheren?03:27
wickedpuppyhttp://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-7/node27.html03:27
mweichertos2mac: thanks anyhow03:27
wickedpuppyoh03:27
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f3arvarsendagger, not yet03:27
wickedpuppywrong name ... lol03:27
Ven0mSevenXhi03:27
Ven0mSevenXhow do i figure out what my root password is?03:27
f3ardabaR, i'm using yours03:27
varsendaggerf3 what is up?03:27
wickedpuppymweichert, you mean rwx rwx rwx right ?03:27
meherenany1 no how to add a cursor theme under breezy?03:27
varsendaggerf3ar,03:27
Ep|phanyanyone know if its possible to reinstall the audio drivers/03:27
Ep|phany?03:27
Ven0mSevenXis it the same as my account password?03:27
dabaRf3ar: and you got fixed with that? that was for my assignment in technical writing in school...:)03:28
misfit_toymeheren, art.gnome.org03:28
duke3zUBOTU you rule dude,  thanks on the sources list thingy03:28
ubotu:)03:28
KnowerrorsdabaR: yeah, tried google, just tryin to narrow it down by word of mouth for good reputable ram dealers03:28
meherenok03:28
lexhider.03:28
misfit_toymeheren, then click FAQ03:28
steven_okay guys i have another java related question....  i am using the Eclipse IDE, but I want to just compile (javac) from the bash screen.  However, I get javac: command not found; when I try to compile my java file....  Does anyone know how i go about I guess create some sort of symbolic link so i can use javac from any place in the filesystem???03:28
meherenok03:28
SCMarkhow do I increase the subtitle size in totem03:28
meherenthx03:28
wickedpuppyVen0mSevenX, use sudo03:28
Ven0mSevenXoh yeah03:28
f3ardabaR, nice...yeah its working....although is mplayer universer or multiverse (non-free)03:28
Ven0mSevenXthat's right03:28
Ven0mSevenXthanks wicked03:28
pingsweptVen0mSevenX: same as your account password03:28
dabaRf3ar: the latter.03:28
dabaRf3ar: also visit the page ubotu told you about in pm.03:29
Ep|phanyanyone know why i cant control the pc speaker volume? i used to beable to but i installed this gstream mad and i cant anymore03:29
mweichertwickedpuppy: I mean, I want the ability to give group 'a': rwx,  group 'b': rw, group 'c': rx03:29
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wickedpuppymweichert, no idea about that one03:29
n0dldoes anyone know how to view the time in cli?03:29
wickedpuppysteven_, you got no javac ?03:29
bimberin0dl: date03:30
f3ardabaR, awesome thanks alot...its working...that page is very easy to understand03:30
dabaRsteven_: you installed a jre, or a jdk?03:30
pingsweptmweichert: what are you trying to do?03:30
f3arvarsendagger, thanks for the help as well, this is a great community03:30
steven_well, i am able to compile in Eclipse, so i have to have the java compiler, right?03:30
wickedpuppyn0dl, guess ? if i were you i type date or time ... obvious choices03:30
pingsweptn0dl: date03:30
dabaRf3ar: it is a product of 3 months of listening to tech writing class, and some feedback from the prof.03:30
dabaRf3ar: thanks for the compliment.03:30
wickedpuppysteven_, yes you got j2sdk1.5 i remember ... steven_ chek ya /etc/alternatives/javac03:30
steven_ok03:31
dabaREp|phany: how is it that you can not? did you ask in #kubuntu about amarok?03:31
wickedpuppysteven_, probably a link problem03:31
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ISOcratescan someone help me get my wireless card working with my airport express (which is using 128-bit WEP encryption)?03:31
meherenart.gnome.org doesn't say how does any1 no how to get my already installed cursors working?03:31
mweichertpingswept: I have several groups of users... the developer group can launch administrative programs, however, the payroll group can only launch evolution, firefox, and openoffice.03:31
mehereni downloaded cursors how do i use them?03:31
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dabaRISOcrates: airport express the router from apple?03:32
Ep|phanydabar i can adjust the master volume but i cant adjust the pc speaker volume03:32
misfit_toymeheren, click on the FAQ on the right side of the art.gnome.org, it tells you how to do everything03:32
dabaREp|phany: in amarok?03:32
Ep|phanyeverywhere03:32
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ISOcratesdabaR: yeah, that's the one03:32
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Ep|phanyeven in volume control03:32
pingsweptmweichert: I see. Can't be done with normal unix permissions, I don't think, which is probably why you were asking about acls.03:32
dabaRISOcrates: and...your wireless works on other routers?03:32
Ep|phanyno matter how hi or low i put the volume for pc speaker it doesnt change03:32
wickedpuppymweichert, http://acl.bestbits.at/ <-- check out this page03:32
meherenno not how to do cursors03:33
dabaREp|phany: what is pc speaker volume, is that the beeps?03:33
ISOcratesdabaR: i can get it to work with no encryption but i can't get it to work with WEP03:33
Ep|phanyno03:33
meherenmisfit_toy it tells everything but cursors03:33
kvanttiUSIcrates check out your router setup, and confirm that uPNP is active03:33
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SCMarkanyone know how to incease subtitle font sizes in totem?03:33
dabaREp|phany: yes.03:33
Ep|phanyi have a notebook so its the speakers built into it03:33
dabaR:)03:33
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misfit_toymeheren, try http://gnome-look.org03:33
kvanttiSC ar03:33
meherenok03:33
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steven_okay, i guess i have a problem here.  I don't have javac in the /etc/alternatives directory.03:33
dabaRISOcrates: did you read the wireless wiki page? ubotu will tell you the URL in pm.03:33
Ep|phanydoes anyone know if its possible to reinstall sound drivers?03:33
mweichertpingswept: yeah... I've heard that there ACLs can be implemented though03:34
ISOcratesdabaR: cool, how did you active that?03:34
varsendaggerf3ar, you bet03:34
dabaREp|phany: as far as I know(afaik) the pc speaker means the beeps, not the speakers built  into the computer;03:34
dabaRISOcrates: he will tell you that as well.03:34
kvanttihttp://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=10601                   this is THE 5.1 system. and on christmas eve, it is all mine :)03:35
misfit_toymeheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7769403:35
mweichertwickedpuppy: yeah, looked there... I guess all I probably need is coreutils, as kernel-2.6 seems to support ACLs by default. I03:35
pingsweptmweichert: http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/17103:35
varsendagger--i am in the process right now to get internet tv working from winamp03:35
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ISOcratesdabaR: thanks, i'll check that page out.  hopefully it will help03:35
wickedpuppymweichert, thats my thought too ... 2.6 is supported03:35
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dabaRISOcrates: its a clue...:)03:35
misfit_toymeheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7769403:36
f3arvarsendagger or dabaR, i just installed mplayer-586 i'm running a p4...synaptic installed everything...no in order to run it i would have to 'Add Applications' first, correct?03:36
SCMarkanyone?  bigger subtitle font sizes?  anyone?03:36
wickedpuppyf3ar, no ... synaptic will download + install mplayer03:36
varsendaggerf3 i would install gmplayer if i wer you03:36
mweichertokay, next question :) how do I patch a deb file? :D03:36
varsendaggerf3ar,  i would install gmplayer if i wer you03:36
dabaRf3ar: Apps>Sound & Video>Mplayer maybe.03:37
kvanttif3ar in order to mplayer run even if it is installed from synaptic, you need to copy a ttf font from any standard truetype as subfont.ttf in your mplayer home dir. also, it is very useful to install a "all" codec pack from the mplayer home site..03:37
steven_i get the following when i do a locate on the javac:  steven@jupiter:~/workspace/Test$ locate javac03:37
steven_/usr/share/doc/ant/manual/OptionalTasks/javacc.html03:37
steven_/usr/share/doc/ant/manual/CoreTasks/javac.html03:37
steven_/usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/javacc.vim03:37
steven_/usr/share/vim/vim63/compiler/javac.vim03:37
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wickedpuppysteven_, pls don't paste here pls ....03:37
wickedpuppy!pastebin03:37
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:37
steven_oops03:37
dabaRya, use that page.03:38
steven_sorry03:38
kvanttif3ar i still have problems with some formats, but the startup problems are gone for me with that kind of installation03:38
Trashcananyone know what might cause an ubuntu server install to sit at 6% for 2 hours while it 'retrieves' tons of packages (slowly)?03:38
dabaRsteven_: do you have the .bin file on your comp still?03:38
misfit_toymeheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7769403:38
Ep|phanyanyone know if its possible to reinstall sound drivers from ubuntu?03:38
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wickedpuppysteven_, btw ... your problem is bash is not finding javac ... you can just add the path to j2sdk1.5 bin in bash ... or fix the /etc/alternatives/javac path03:38
f3ardabaR, okay i just didnt see in apps>sound/video03:38
dabaRmisfit_toy: I hope you know you posted that 3 times already:)03:38
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f3arnow i'm going to install the mozilla plugin03:38
meherensry03:39
mehereni was getting the dog03:39
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misfit_toydabaR, yes, trying to help *someone else*03:39
misfit_toydabaR, don't get me started03:39
dabaRf3ar: try mplayer in a terminal, and, usually, you want to go with opening files in mplayer, not opening mplayer itself.03:39
dabaRno, eh?03:39
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wickedpuppydon't version the channel sophie_03:39
f3ardabaR, gotcha, its working/installed...just need the plugin to work03:40
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ajmitch_sophie_: please, don't do that03:40
dabaRf3ar: the plugin is called usually w32codecs, and you can get it probably where ubotu tells you in pm.03:40
Ep|phanyis there anyway i can return my sound drivers to defualt?03:40
sophie_ajmitch_: do what sorry im trying a script called verstats03:40
dabaRf3ar: oh, oh, no, that is not that plugin.03:41
ajmitch_sophie_: I suggest you don't then :)03:41
defendguinsi there anyone here who like the brown ubuntu theme?03:41
Trashcanlol03:41
defendguins/si/is03:41
wickedpuppysophie_, don't try any scripts here ... try it in empty channel ?03:41
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Nikyosophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net03:41
mjr3303:41
jsauergreat program called automatix (google for it) can install various codecs for you automatically, and also install a lot of other useful apps...03:41
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defendguinso one out of 200 in the channel03:41
wickedpuppyjsauer, pls don't recommend automatix03:42
synackuatorzenrox: ok how do I use this tcl plugin now?03:42
seth_k|lappyjsauer, automatix should not be used; it breaks systems03:42
jsaueri've had good results... is there something bad with it?03:42
dabaRf3ar: that one is called mozilla-mplayer, or so.03:42
Dr_Willisdefendguin,  most of us dont worry about themes.03:42
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seth_k|lappyjsauer, it enables root, which breaks the GUI config tools. And some other bad things03:42
jsauerah03:42
seth_k|lappyjsauer, our own robotgeek is fixing it up03:42
dabaRdefendguin: and most ignore polls.03:42
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sophie_Sorry all for the query script03:43
bbrownls03:43
seth_k|lappyand he is going to release a fork, called "EazyBreezy", jsauer03:43
bbrownls03:43
bbrownpwd03:43
seth_k|lappywhich will be safe to use03:43
sethkwickedpuppy, why?  I don't use it, I'm just curious about your comment03:43
defendguinheh03:43
seth_k|lappysethk, see my comments03:43
jsauercool... thanks.03:43
sethkseth_k|lappy, hey, not only are you uing my first name, you've got my initial also.  :)03:43
Dr_Willisjsauer,  theres some.... interesting discussion of it in the forums. :P be sure to put on your fireproof undies befor reading them :P03:43
wickedpuppyi am confused03:43
dabaRbbrown: try the terminal instead of irc.03:43
bbrownq03:43
wickedpuppytwo sethk ...03:43
seth_k|lappysethk, tch, I stole seth@ubuntu.com first; I win :)03:43
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seth_k|lappywickedpuppy, /me = Seth Kinast03:44
seth_k|lappyhim != Seth Kinast :P03:44
wickedpuppyanyway sethk read seth_k|lappy's explaination on automatix above ... it break things03:44
bbrowndabaR: yea, I am doing IRC by proxy03:44
sethkseth_k|lappy, yes, I scrolled up and saw it.03:44
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bbrownquit03:44
seth_k|lappyDr_Willis, the forums are so corrupt :P censorship is the norm. You won't find any of that discussion left03:44
bbrownquit03:44
bbrowndope03:44
Dr_Willisseth_k|lappy,  heh - how sad.03:45
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seth_k|lappyDr_Willis, we're going to bring it up at CC, so maybe something will be done :)03:45
jsauerFYI... I've been a Fedora user for years and have switched over to breezy... it's been great. very good notebook support...03:45
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wickedpuppyjsauer, i was fedora users for years too ... and it does support notebook well ...03:46
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wickedpuppymy notebook in any case03:46
Dr_Willisseth_k|lappy,  i even read through the script - i could just about write what it does.  But then again I had all the things it did.. allready done.  :P03:46
sethkwickedpuppy, recently I've loaded two laptops that worked out of the box with ubuntu and failed with fedora03:46
f3ardabaR, im having some trouble installing the codecs03:46
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AbdulSpiegelcan anyone help me out?03:46
Dr_WillisIve had VERY good luck with Ubuntu 5.10 and my TUrion based Laptop.03:46
f3ardabaR, can i pm you03:46
dabaRf3ar: specify them.03:46
beekayi am having a problem manually upgrading hoary03:46
seth_k|lappyDr_Willis, exactly... those who know how to fix the things that break by enabling root, won't use Automatix... it's the new users that use it, and then their system gets hosed03:46
dabaRf3ar: more people more knowledge...03:46
sethkAbdulSpiegel, well, unless we are psychic, we don't know until you tell us what you need03:46
AbdulSpiegellol03:47
ISOcratesdoes anyone know what file has the info that tells what wireless network to connect to on startup?03:47
jsaueri have breezy on a thinkpad r40 and suspend to ram works fine... still trying to get it to work on a compaq x1000 however... upon resuming, the mouse is all random and messed up03:47
AbdulSpiegeltrue03:47
AbdulSpiegelokay03:47
wickedpuppysethk, something like that can happen to any distro ... go #fedora and they can tell you about how ubuntu break their laptops :P03:47
beekaywhen i do sudo apt-get upgrade, it gets to the end and says that there is a GPG error and that there were invalid signatures03:47
beekaydoes anyone know how i can fix that03:47
wickedpuppy!gpgerror03:47
ubotuwickedpuppy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!03:47
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Dr_Willisseth_k|lappy,  i can honestly say ive done about everything I can think of to break ubuntu and havent done it yet. :P03:47
beekaythanks03:47
wickedpuppy!gpg error03:47
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, wickedpuppy03:47
sethkwickedpuppy, sure, but I'm just saying that my recent experience favors ubuntu over fedora03:47
beekay!gpgerror03:47
wickedpuppyah heck03:47
f3ardabaR, i think its working...let me figure it out...just a sec03:47
dabaR!gpgerr03:47
ubotumethinks gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal03:47
synackuatorcan anyone tell me how to use my TCL system info script?03:47
navaronelol03:47
bimberi!gpgerr03:48
jsaueris there an easy way to "undo" what automatix has done? without doing a reinstall?03:48
beekay!gpgerro03:48
ubotubeekay: I give up, what is it?03:48
beekayblah03:48
beekay!gpgerr03:48
wickedpuppyjsauer, unautomatix ? :P ... no such thing03:48
Dr_Willisjsauer,  apt-get remove the stuff it installed for 90% of it.03:48
wickedpuppybeekay, i think its enough ?03:48
seth_k|lappyjsauer, yeah... I forget what robotgeek found out03:48
seth_k|lappybut basically sudo passwd -l root03:48
seth_k|lappyand restoring /etc/apt/sources.list03:48
WebLOCHdabaR, Any other DB Modelling suggestions?03:48
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seth_k|lappyand removing the stuff it installed by hand, since it doesn't install things properly in some cases03:49
beekay!gpgerror03:49
ubotuWish i knew, beekay03:49
dabaRWebLOCH: that one is fine.03:49
beekay!gpg error03:49
ubotubeekay: I don't know, could you explain it?03:49
dabaRbeekay: please stop, he said it above.03:49
f3ardabaR, i did 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer' however totem is still trying to play the .mov's on http://www.apple.com/trailers/03:49
jsauerdang... the only reason I went with it was for the latest openoffice... guess I can go through the script and undo it step by step... might be quicker to just do a reinstall...03:49
WebLOCHdabaR, its not a db modeller, its a diagram editor, missing out the modelling part which I was rather keen on03:49
f3ari should reboot? or is there a quicker way03:49
beekayoh im an idiot03:49
dabaRf3ar: thats cause it is the default plugin... no reboots except for kernel changes in GNU/Linux.03:50
xulinnanuit03:50
wickedpuppyWebLOCH, graphics apps are rare on linux ... i been bitching for dreamweaver clone and visio clone03:50
dabaRWebLOCH: what is a modelet, a case tool?03:50
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seth_k|lappywickedpuppy, inkscape is working on becoming more like visio... their new version has connectors03:50
navaronewickedpuppy...how about nvu...I think that's the name of it03:50
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dabaRWebLOCH: ILl model your database, Im reading that stuff now...:)03:50
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seth_k|lappyick navarone, nvu != dreamweaver or even close ;)03:51
wickedpuppyseth_k|lappy, inkscape yah ... i been trying it out :P03:51
beekayhmm is there any reason i cant install the packages: linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-38603:51
WebLOCHdabaR,  cool if you want to03:51
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sethkthere's kivio, although it is underwhelming03:51
WebLOCHwickedpuppy, I wouldnt want a dreamweaver clone or a visio clone, but a simple db modeller would b e nice... have you tried NVU ?03:51
deadcatcan ubuntu ppc live cd bootup on oldworld mac?03:51
dabaRWebLOCH: write out the specs, and send me the pastebin with it...03:51
f3ardabaR, how can i set mplayer to default instead of totem03:51
kvanttican someone give the address for the nickserv faq site03:51
navaroneseth> I wouldn't know a wysiwyg from a hole in the wall...<s>03:52
f3ardabaR, is the in firefox or something else03:52
AbdulSpiegeldoes anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??03:52
WebLOCHdabaR, i couldnt do that buddy, i might aswell do it myself in that instance03:52
wickedpuppykvantti, /msg nickserv help03:52
dabaRf3ar: I am not 100% sure. try starting with about:config in the address bar.03:52
bimberiWebLOCH: DBDesigner4 might be worth a look - http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/03:52
WebLOCHdabaR, just wanted pretty pre-rendered stuff done for me for documentation and some sql generated scripts03:52
WebLOCHbimberi, thanks03:52
seth_k|lappydoes Umbrello do DB mockups? Or just code schema03:52
jsauerwickedpuppy, have you tried dia ... not that polished yet, but similar to visio03:52
bimberiWebLOCH: np :)03:52
AbdulSpiegeldoes anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??03:52
dabaRkvantti: /msg nickserv help. have you tried that?03:52
_jasonubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy03:53
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infamuswhenever i try to change directories to one of my mounted NTFS hard drives, linux doesnt want to recognize the space in "program files"03:53
wickedpuppyjsauer, dia is not visio ... its general drawing stuff .. yes i tried it ... too ashamed to show it to my friends who use visio03:53
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wickedpuppyinfamus, use \03:53
odie5533How secure are the packages in the universe and multiverse?03:53
wickedpuppyodie5533, i am using them03:53
Dr_Williscd 'Program Files'03:53
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itsonlymehi03:54
dabaRwickedpuppy: welll, I never used visio, and for a modelling tool(drawing models) dia is great, I find.03:54
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f3arDoes anyone know how to change Mplayer to the default player for Firefox, as opposed to Totem?03:54
dabaRodie5533: quite secure, but, not as the ones in main.03:54
wickedpuppydabaR, i don't use visio to model ... i need to draw uml diagrams and use cases ... you know those project management stuff03:54
dabaRpah...03:54
dabaRthats analysis.03:55
dabaRand design.03:55
dabaRgantt and pert are pm.03:55
dabaRanyhow...03:55
WebLOCHwickedpuppy,  you need to check out Poseidon then03:55
jsauerwould be nice to export objects out of visio as svg's, then use something like inkscape03:55
infamuswickedpuppy: for the entire path? because the directory im trying to get to is /media/hda1/Program Files/Gravity/RO03:55
seth_k|lappywickedpuppy, Umbrello is great at UML03:55
dabaRother ones too. But, there are UML diagrams in dia, and I find they work fine. For _drawing_ diagrams.03:55
dabaRuse  /media/hda1/Program\ Files/Gravity/RO03:56
infamusdabaR: ah, thanks03:56
ISOcratesdoes anyone know what file tells what wireless network to connect to on startup?03:56
itsonlymeI am trying to install the ivtv module as per the mythtv wiki guide.  I ran into a problem when I modprobed the new module "FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ivtv/ivtv.ko): Invalid module format"   Anyone know how to fix this?03:56
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wickedpuppyah k03:56
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wickedpuppythanks guys for the suggestions :P03:56
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dabaRitsonlyme: type sudo uname -r in a terminal.03:57
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WebLOCHahh umbrello seems to do db erds too03:57
maddash!w32codecs03:57
ubotuw32codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/03:57
WebLOCHwickedpuppy, check out poseidon and umbrello03:57
itsonlyme2.6.12-10-68603:57
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dabaRitsonlyme: ok, thats good, you have the right kernel it seems.03:58
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wickedpuppyposeidon is pretty ex :P03:59
sethkubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy03:59
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sethkwhy isn't ubotu responding to that?04:00
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misfit_toysethk, valium04:00
dabaRwhat does he tell you?04:00
AbdulSpiegeldoes anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??04:00
AbdulSpiegelthe synthax04:00
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itsonlymeInitially I ran make and got a gcc3.4 error not found.  A slightly more adavened linux user/friend of mine suggested creating a symlink from gcc4 to gcc3.4.  which allowed make to compile the driver.  Thats when I got the error the first time.  I apt-get'ed gcc3.4 and removed the symlink and tryed again.  Same result.  Did I screw it up entirely?04:00
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Dr_WillisAbdulSpiegel,  i know its covered in the ubuntu wikis :P04:00
sethkdabaR, my fault, I was looking in the wrong place.04:01
misfit_toyAbdulSpiegel, there is a whole walk thru on that at http://ubuntuforums.org04:01
AbdulSpiegeli dont got a cd tho04:01
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mmilohello04:01
odie5533As an ubuntu user, am I at risk to a rootkit?04:01
Dr_Willisitsonlyme,  have ya  'apt-get install build-essentials' yet?04:01
misfit_toyAbdulSpiegel, it's done over the 'net, you don't need a cd04:01
itsonlymeyes04:01
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infamuswickedpuppy: OMG ragnarok Online runs so freakin slow! i cant believe there arent good drivers for the ati radeon 7000 physical04:01
mmilowhats a rootkit?04:01
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dabaRmmilo: it is something you dont want.04:02
mmiloi see04:02
misfit_toyinfamus, ati is not a good linux card, they don't play well with open source, they are buttheads.04:02
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mmilowell im just running the ubuntu live disk i got in the mail04:02
dabaRmmilo: google for more info. it is a hacker tool(dunno myseklf)04:02
WebLOCHwickedpuppy, what do you mean by poseidon being ex ?04:02
mmilohavent used linux before04:02
WebLOCHwickedpuppy, what does ex mean?04:02
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f3aryo dabaR I'm not having any luck getting this mozilla-mplayer to work...any ideas? it's installed but still won't play04:02
WebLOCHwickedpuppy, excellent, exciting, excremential04:02
f3arapple.com/trailers is what i'm using to test it04:02
wickedpuppyexpensive04:03
misfit_toyWebLOCH, excrutiating?04:03
dabaRodie5533: as much as anyone else, isntall programs only from the official, and community supported repos.04:03
mmilojust curious are there any good open source vector apps out there?04:03
mmilolike adobe illustrator04:03
vince_first time to use linux.. what is the command to install a .sh file in terminal?04:03
WebLOCHwickedpuppy, theres a community licence which is free and provides all of the UML stuff you could need04:03
FushiDo you need a compiler to install gcc?04:03
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Dr_Willisvince_,  what are you trying to install?04:03
vegoswhen i play mpg files ubuntu restarts and i have to log back in, can anyone help04:03
misfit_toyvince_,  "sh file.sh"04:03
vince_crossover office04:04
vince_yes04:04
sethkFushi, yes04:04
Mr-Falkorthere should be a program that helps people like me to get rid of the computing addiction04:04
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Dr_Willisvegos,  you mean X crashes and gdm restarts back up?04:04
sethkFushi, you can cross compile one on another architecture04:04
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KnowerrorsAnyone know of a good drafting program for ubuntu04:04
vegosdr,  yes04:04
misfit_toyMr-Falkor, it's called "chicks 1.01"04:04
dabaRvince_: does that   program not come with tech support?04:04
itsonlymeI think build-essential isntalls gcc4, while make was expecting 3.404:04
Knowerrors?04:04
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Dr_WillisKnowerrors,  'qcad' perhaps04:04
vince_of course, but not on sunday night04:05
vegosDr, do you recognize this problem04:05
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vince_i guess a .sh file is not a common file extension in linux04:05
misfit_toyitsonlyme, what are you installing?04:05
Mr-Falkormisfit_toy, Im damn serious :) I've got a gf04:05
FushiSo I need a compiler to install a compiler...grr that was the whole reason I was install gcc >_>04:05
Dr_Willisvegos,  X is crashing for some reason. Most likely a video-card issue.04:05
misfit_toyvince_, it's a very common thing .sh04:05
FushiThanks04:05
itsonlymethe ivtv drivers for mythtv04:05
f3ardabaR, just so you know...i'm stupid i was using firefox and not mozilla hahaha04:06
misfit_toyMr-Falkor, what do ya need man?04:06
dabaRf3ar: nono, fx is part of mozilla.04:06
Mr-Falkormisfit_toy, help04:06
vince_how do i install it, misfit?  thanks for your help04:06
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Dr_Willisvince_,   its just a 'shell script' - installing programs with .sh or .bin files/self installing executables - is somewhat rare.04:06
dabaRvince_: it is. chmod +x file.sh && sudo ./file.sh04:06
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misfit_toyMr-Falkor, with?04:06
vegosdo you know how i can trouble shoot this problem04:06
dabaRvince_: that above is your ticket to a broken system if that is not a safe package.04:06
Mr-Falkormisfit_toy, get rid of my computer addiction, I feel like crap without a computer04:06
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vince_ty dabar04:07
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itsonlymemisfit_toy: the ivtv kernel mod for mythtv  sorry for the double, hit enter too fast04:07
varsendaggerf3ar, is ubuntu the first linux distro you've used04:07
dabaRvince_: take care when installing programs that way.04:07
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vince_chmod, doesn't that just change the permission?04:08
wethionIs Enlightenment 16 or 17 in Ubuntu?  And where can I see a listing of all packages available in Ubuntu?04:08
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cozhey guys in which file are screen savers kept?04:08
misfit_toyMr-Falkor, oh, seriously then? hmmm, that's becoming a common thing, if you really need help I'd call your doctor and hook up with someone to talk to IN PERSON04:08
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f3ardabaR, so you know mozilla-mplayer isn't working in firefox, however it is working in mozilla browser04:08
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dabaRvegos: well, first thing to ask yourself is: what program opens when I try opening an mpg file?04:08
duke3zis it ok to send a small video error in here?04:08
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duke3z  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the04:08
duke3z         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,04:08
duke3z         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.04:08
dabaRf3ar: again, that is cause fx has totem as default, and mozilla does not.04:08
kevmanI'm running the Emu10k1 sound driver. Is there any way I can use it to record sound?04:08
f3arvarsendagger, yes it is...i've used knoppix before...but ubuntu is my first install and attempt04:08
misfit_toyitsonlyme, myth stuff? why don't you ask in #myth first, they are really on the ball about mythtv04:09
dabaRduke3z: sudo aptitude install binutils?04:09
duke3zwhere the heck do you install binutils?04:09
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duke3zi'll runit04:09
wethionIs there a place I can view all packages available in Ubuntu?04:09
f3ardabaR, yeah exactly heh, now i need to figure out how to get mplayer working in fx04:09
cozdoes someone know which location screensavers are kept04:09
jtan325i'm trying to run some java stuff, but I get a NoClassDefFoundError04:09
itsonlymeThanks, I forgot they were there...  :)04:09
jtan325would this have to do with java classpath?04:09
wethioncoz: did you try xscreensaver?04:10
cozno thanks04:10
dabaRjtan325: why dont you paste your java program into paste.ubuntulinux.nl?04:10
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duke3zdabar Thank You Sir04:10
dabaR$2004:10
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duke3zright 004:11
jtan325dabaR, i think the java program is legit04:11
jtan325it works on my school servers04:11
froguzhello everybody04:11
Xenguywethion: run 'synaptic'  ?04:11
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dabaRjtan325: I think roses are red.04:11
jtan325but now i am trying to run the program (actually, a project) on my local machine04:11
wickedpuppyjtan325, is it a packaged ? then classpath would be my first guess04:11
froguzi have a very tricky question, so i hope somebody can help me04:11
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itsonlymethanks to everybody who helped!04:12
jtan325i can just do "-cp"?04:12
jtan325it is packaged04:12
wethionXenguy: I'm not running Ubuntu, I'm thinking of trying it out on my daughter's system, but I want to be sure it has all of the packages I need before I spend the time.04:12
wickedpuppyjtan325, then check ya classpath settings04:12
froguzi need to rebuild an hdlist file from a centos cd install using ubuntu04:12
jtan325what should the classpath settings be?04:12
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jtan325or can i just use "-cp" and specify the folders where the project files are04:12
cozok checked xscreensaver and that's not what i want04:12
varsendaggerf3ar, i'm asking because i've used mandrake and debian 3.1 and i *struggled* to get mplayer and gdesklets and gnome-sudoku running04:13
jtan325or do i also have to specify where the JRE's are04:13
wethioncoz: what are you looking for?04:13
jtan325or something...04:13
Xenguywethion: is there anything in particular you need?04:13
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coz I want the location of the separate screen savers in ubuntu04:13
dabaRjtan325: try #java, if you wont go along with my questions, and noone else answers.04:13
froguzsince ubuntu doesn't have genhdlist, is there a way to to that ?04:13
wickedpuppyjtan325, it should point to the dir above the package settings ... and .04:13
wethionXenguy: for starters, Enlightenment instead of Gnome.04:13
jtan325dabaR, i would paste it, but the program is actually a project, with dozens of files04:13
jtan325and alot of the code we didn't right04:13
jtan325write04:13
Siph0nis there ne way find can find a string in any file in a dir?04:13
jtan325it's a school project04:13
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cozwethion I want to do alittle editing of a few of them and need to know where each one is located04:13
wethionXenguy: is there a bloot I can query here?04:14
varsendaggerwethion, do you use E16?04:14
dabaRjtan325: then, you need to run the file including the package, so like, java org.MainMethodClass04:14
Xenguywethion: E is available in Ubu, yes04:14
Xenguywethion: ubotu04:14
wethionvarsendagger: Yes.04:14
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Xenguywethion: /msg ubotu keyword04:14
ChocoPandahelloo?04:14
dabaRwethion: bloot bot?04:14
dabaRok, ya.04:14
froguzany who has rebuild a red hat based install cd????04:14
wethionXenguy: Kk. thanks.04:14
varsendaggerwethion, so do i, it is a bit hard to configur04:14
Xenguywethion: np04:14
RexQuestion: I'm having issues connecting to a windows computer over a network in Ubuntu. I think I should use Places-> Connect to server -> server type "Windows Share". Is this correct?04:15
ChocoPandaer..im new to linux...seeking some enlightment04:15
f3arvarsendagger, oh well i'm looking to get gdesklets working as well...whats gnome-sudoku?04:15
dabaRRex: sounds right...:)04:15
XenguyChocoPanda: ask away04:15
wethionvarsendagger: not hard at all.. but I've been dicking around with E for years now.04:15
ChocoPandahow come there is only one selection for the resolution in ubuntu 5.10?04:15
froguzChocoPanda, are you chilean?04:15
dabaRubotu: tell ChocoPanda about fixres04:16
ChocoPandanope...04:16
dabaRChocoPanda: it is related to your monitor. read the pm from ubotu.04:16
RexdabaR: I thought so, but I'm not getting anywhere that way. I specify my windows computer's IP address, and I did enable sharing files and printers in Windows, but I'm still not sure this isn't a Windows problem.04:16
pingsweptChocoPanda: are you using a flat panel monitor?04:16
ChocoPandaoh..i missed that just now04:16
ChocoPandanope04:16
wethioncoz: if you have xscreensaver installed, or another screensaver package, the name of the screensaver can be used in a locate query.04:16
froguzChocoPanda, your nick is a very famous icecream here04:16
wethionas in locate kumpaa04:16
pingsweptChocoPanda: what is the resolution you're seeing?04:17
wethioncoz: as in 'locate kumpaa'.04:17
froguzplease, i need some heeeeeeelp!!!04:17
f3arvarsendagger, what do you use for security purposes?04:17
ChocoPandathe lowest one04:17
ChocoPanda640x480..i think04:17
pingsweptYeah, that's low.04:17
wethionfroguz: that is a sure way to *not* get help.  ask your quesion, and if someone is available to assist, they will.04:17
dabaRRex: do you know the IP addresses for both machines?04:17
Rexyes04:17
dabaRRex: do you have a router?04:18
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ChocoPandaah.. thanks for the help guys04:18
pingsweptChocoPanda: not sure what to tell you.04:18
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arg|bxhiyas04:18
ChocoPandaim gonna go read the linux for dummies book now..04:18
froguzhow can i rebuild a hdlist file from centos install cd using ubuntu??04:18
RexdabaR: My internet is provided by my university, so I could be connected to a router at some point. However, I know the IP of both computers and the internal and external IPs are the same.04:18
Dr_WillisChocoPanda,  ewww.. get better books then that.04:18
cliebowhi: what do i need to do to get samba.schema04:18
XenguyChocoPanda: good place to start if you have the book04:19
ChocoPandalol i'll try04:19
sethkChocoPanda, usually that means that your monitor has not been identified, so it assumes you have a monitor that can do only 64004:19
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ChocoPandathanks sethk~ cya04:19
benplautare there any cli rss readers out there that output info in a ticker form?04:19
sethkChocoPanda, all you have to do is go into the dialog for resolution and tell it that your monitor can do, whatever it can do04:19
varsendaggergnome-suduko is a game for sudoku04:19
dabaRRex: can you ping from one machine to the other?04:20
giany911does any 1 know how can i ...add channels ..to fav like open at startup in xchat?04:20
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arg|bxi'm trying to install ubuntu, its fails when installing the kernel04:20
Dr_Willisgiany911,  under the server list. has autojoin section :P04:20
giany911ty04:21
RexdabaR: Yes, both machines can ping the other04:21
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Dr_Willisgiany911,  #ubuntu,#linux,#HotLinuxBabes04:21
varsendaggerf3ar, i don't have anything other than a hardware firewall04:21
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dabaR|food|patieRex: read the pm from ubotu is best I can do.04:22
sethkvarsendagger, a hardware firewall is the best thing you can have.04:22
kvanttimaybe you traditional gamers might enjoy the site www.happypenguin.org                 this site really has content04:23
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crexoris there an faq anywhere for using the airport card in an ibook + ubuntu live?04:23
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varsendaggerwethion, how do you configure the pagers and whatnot, do you configure stuff manually or do you use some kind of enlightnement configuration tool?04:23
dabaR|food|patiecrexor: airport extreme?04:23
crexoryea04:23
kvanttisethk yeah seth, just before i switched to ubuntu, my windowz soft firewally had reported 0 intrusion attempts through my buffalo airstation firewall. i feel extremely safe these days04:23
fosoriohi.. I just installed 5.04.. is there a way to upgrade to 5.10 without reinstalling?04:24
dabaR|food|patiecrexor: it is impossible to use those with any GNU/Linux distro. Only apple has teh drivers, in OSX.04:24
crexorah04:24
dabaR|food|patieubotu: tell fosorio about breezy04:24
varsendaggerforosio there is a wiki for upgrading isnt there>04:24
dabaR|food|patiefosorio: read the pm.04:24
kvanttifosorio apt-get update, atp-get distro-upgrade                    make sure to edit your installation sources from synaptic before this!04:24
crexorhow about my usb wireless card04:24
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crexorhas prism2 chip04:24
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fosoriook.. thanks04:24
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kvantticrexor that chip should be supported. i remember seeing prism support somewhere04:25
dabaR|food|patieubotu: tell crexor about wireless04:25
varsendaggerwethion, no answer?04:25
crexoroo i like it04:25
crexorthank you much.04:25
dabaR|food|patiecrexor: I dont know whether it will work.04:25
Rexdamn04:25
froguzhow can i rebuild a hdlist file from centos install cd using ubuntu??04:25
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varsendaggerseth_k|lappy, what do you use for security?04:26
seth_k|lappyvarsendagger, security?04:26
badmacktuckanyone in here have any idea why, when transferring files from an xp share, samba only transfers at like 300kBps04:26
seth_k|lappyI don't use a virus scanner or firewall04:26
wickedpuppyvarsendagger, i use a guard dog04:26
kvantticrexor use the console to cd to /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless and see if there is a prism driver there04:26
seth_k|lappyno viruses for Linux that I care about, and I don't have any ports open for a firewall to protect04:26
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Chainsaw_MasterI just installed a normal install instead of expert04:27
andhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5148   Does this matter? lol04:27
Chainsaw_Masterhow do I get actual root access?04:27
kvantticrexor those drivers are the one your system has stored without downloading necessary04:27
wickedpuppyChainsaw_Master, sudo -s04:27
andChainsaw_Master:  sudo04:27
varsendaggeri think linux is securtity enough04:27
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Chainsaw_MasterI want reall access, I want su -04:27
kvanttiChainsaw_Master sudo -i from console enables you to have full root access04:27
seth_k|lappyand, how can you stand to use that nick... doesn't it get annoying to be pinged every 2sec04:27
Chainsaw_Masterthanks04:27
andseth_k|lappy:  Not really.04:28
andseth_k|lappy:  I've also been 'the' and 'it' before.04:28
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wickedpuppyand, why not try help ?04:28
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seth_k|lappyhaha04:28
andhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5148     But how do I fix this?!04:28
towshebaHell0 Channel04:28
wickedpuppyyour name will be called every 20 sec04:28
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towshebaIs some one willing to help me with blckbox universe?04:29
stockis there an ubuntu equivilent to gentoo's 'glsa-check' or freebsd's 'portaudit'?04:29
benplautand why not?04:29
towshebablackbox*04:29
Dr_Willistowsheba,  help in what way?04:29
dabaR|food|patietowsheba: did you ask the #blackbox, and what help is it?04:29
andwickedpuppy:  Because this place is helper...er..04:29
towshebaoh no sorry04:29
towshebaI have not04:29
towshebaI did not relise there was one04:30
towshebathnk you04:30
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dabaR|food|patieand: I would have definitely tell us what causes the error.04:30
giany911does any1 know a similar program to superkaramba?04:30
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arg|bxok, the installer is giving me a list of ONE kernel to install.. when i select it, it tells me linux-386 cannot be installed, and to check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log (which never seems to get created)04:30
duke3zwhere do i read about starting up ubuntu without Xserver?04:30
anddabaR:  when I open Synaptic04:30
varsendaggertowsheba, what is up i use flux --- basically the same thing04:30
arg|bxso whats going on here?04:31
anddabaR:  Or do an apt-get04:31
Dr_Willisgiany911,  gnome has 'gesklets'04:31
dabaRand: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin, please.04:31
stockduke3z, you can probably just update-rc.d -f gdm remove (or whatever it is that's starting x)04:31
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anddabaR:  No wait..hold on..I think I might have fixed it04:31
dabaRand: good work.04:31
duke3zam still trying to install nvidia driver04:31
stockso, asked another way, is there a program i can get that will check all the packages i've installed via apt agaisnt ubuntu's security announcements?04:31
dabaRubotu: tell duke3z about nvidia04:32
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duke3zbut my tears are blurring my vision lol04:32
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anddabaR:  Had to apt-get update... let's see if it helped04:32
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towshebaI have checked in to the #blackbox channel but no one is alive atm04:32
dabaRtowsheba: they need time.04:32
dabaRtowsheba: but, shoot...04:32
andWOOT I FIXED IT04:32
bimberistock: just enable the ubuntu-security repositories and stay updated against them04:32
towshebaone second04:33
badmacktuckis there are firewall installed and running by default in breezy? i cant remember.04:33
towshebagot pm04:33
Chainsaw_Masteris anyone with a solid and not very customized /etc/apt/sources.list kind enough to paste it somewhere and link me?04:33
stockbimberi, so comment out the rest of the stuff in sources.list?04:33
wickedpuppy!sources.list04:33
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:33
arg|bxany got any idea about this kernel thing?04:33
bimberistock: no, apt should be set up to prioritise packages in that repository04:34
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bimberistock: ... set up by default that is (no action required)04:34
varsendagger## distribution.04:34
varsendaggerdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted04:34
varsendaggerdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted04:34
varsendagger## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'04:34
varsendagger## repository.04:34
varsendagger## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu04:34
varsendagger## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to04:34
varsendagger## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in04:34
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stockhow will i know if something is updating because it's security related, as opposed to something new?04:34
bimberiargh!04:34
varsendagger## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security04:34
varsendagger## team.04:34
dabaRbadmacktuck: yes, but it is open completely.04:34
varsendaggerdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted04:34
varsendaggerdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted04:34
Dr_Willis:)04:34
varsendaggerdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted04:34
varsendaggerdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted04:34
varsendaggerdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe04:34
varsendaggerdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe04:34
Toma-oh dear04:35
Dr_WillisOh My.04:35
nickrudmaybe that should scroll by now and then :)04:35
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Dr_Willis:P04:35
varsendaggerChainsaw_Master, did you get that?04:35
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dabaRvarsendagger: we dont do that, remember?04:35
badmacktuckdabaR, im trying to figure out why my transfers to/from shares on my network  are sooo slow.04:35
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badmacktuckdabaR, any ideas?04:35
varsendaggerdabaR, do waht04:35
Toma-varsendagger: you know what a priavte message is?04:35
dabaRvarsendagger: we dont paste in the channel.04:35
Toma-private even04:35
varsendaggeri thought i did a /msg04:35
Dr_WillisLOL. :P04:36
wickedpuppyLOL04:36
varsendaggersorry guys04:36
Toma-you might have done the first line.04:36
bimberivarsendagger: use /query <nick>04:36
dabaRbadmacktuck: what does the network look like, network is just a name, the layout differs.04:36
varsendagger----- jumps of a tall building04:36
arg|bxcan anyone help with the installer?04:36
Chainsaw_Masteryep04:36
Chainsaw_Masterthanks :)04:36
dabaRvarsendagger: good work:)04:37
dabaRarg|bx: why do you choose a kernel, I never did during install.04:37
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arg|bxdabaR: expert install because of pre-existing partitions04:37
badmacktuckdabaR, the two comps are my breezy install with a 3com 10/100 and an xp box with marvell gigabit card. all connected using cat5e and a zyxel  5 port gigabit switch04:37
WebLOCHdabaR, where are you studying erds/databasing at the moment?  I would be interested in your reference materials if they are not private.04:37
dabaRarg|bx: on breezy?04:38
arg|bxdabaR: yes04:38
kvanttiarg|bx have a look at the install information from the boot: menu your installer displays, and see if you need to give speciel parameters for the installer that match your hardware.04:38
WebLOCHbadmacktuck, its sexy isnt it?  Breezy knows about your gigabit.  It knows allllll about your gigabit.04:38
arg|bxit never creates the logfile i'm supposed to look at04:38
dabaRWebLOCH: well, not atm, but this term, UofW. They are not private, the prof notes. I can even get you the book in e fornmat that Iscanned onto my web site.04:38
WebLOCHooh04:38
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WebLOCHdabaR, just about any format is good, I like to keep ahold of good ref materials04:39
badmacktuckWebLOCH, thats the problem. it doesnt becuase the breezy box is not gigabit04:39
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arg|bxkvantti: i don't have any particular problems with debian or knoppix on the same hardware04:39
WebLOCHbadmacktuck,  harsh luck buddy04:39
kvanttiarg|bx ubuntu is a different system. just a hint.04:39
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badmacktuckWebLOCH, time to get a new card methinks04:39
arg|bxkvantti: aye, to a point. not so much so that the d-i should not create a log file04:39
WebLOCHbadmacktuck, depends on if you need it or not, but if you got the cash spare, no reason not to!04:40
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Toma-arg|bx: why are u using the expert install?04:40
bimberiarg|bx: the normal install will still let you choose partitions04:40
ChocoPandayo04:40
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badmacktuckWebLOCH, is there a chipset i should look for. never bought networking equipment for linux04:40
indigirl1man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system     why am i getting this error?04:41
kvanttiarg|bx my point is, that you could try to look those F-menu items. the installer could bug with your hardware, for example my rt2500 is not identified by the installer, but the system detects it just fine..04:41
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kvanttiarg|bx and kernel is very hardware related04:41
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WebLOCHbadmacktuck, i have two onboard gigabit adapters ill check them now04:41
dabaRarg|bx: what is the partition layout?04:41
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badmacktuckWebLOCH, thank you sir04:41
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arg|bxdabaR: what info do you want to know? there are 21 partitions...04:42
jeff303can someone explain what dist-upgrade is, when upgrading to breezy?  is it a meta package?04:42
indigirl1jeff303: not a package, it's just a command to apt-get04:42
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stockhow can i list all installed packages?04:42
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jeff303indigirl1: but that comes after changing the repositories to point to breezy, then marking upgrade, yes?04:42
kvanttijeff303 dist-upgrade is a predefined "script" the aptitude uses which allows you to upgrade your distribution without having to "install" anything04:42
indigirl1stock: dpkg -l04:42
stockoh, thanks04:42
rixthWhat do you do if apt-get seg faults apart from cry?04:42
dabaRarg|bx: you dont need to run "expert" install to manually edit the partition tables. the default "enter" install doees that too.04:42
bimberistock: dpkg -l | grep ii04:43
arg|bxbimberi: so it will use partitions i created for it, without disturbing existing ones, in normal install mode?04:43
stockah, okay, that makes more sense04:43
indigirl1jeff303: thats true yes. and first do a     apt-get update04:43
arg|bxi also don't want ubuntu writing lilo04:43
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jeff303indigirl1:  same as running the auto-update gui, correct?04:43
kvanttijeff303 but you must have your sources defined in synaptic, since it wont work if it does not know where to get the material04:43
indigirl1jeff303: in synaptic, yes right04:43
bimberiarg|bx: yes, just choose manual partitioning when asked04:43
jeff303indigirl1:  ok thanks04:43
dabaRbadmacktuck: that sounds fine, but I dont know how samba really works, but I would not expect the protocol itself to slow down considerably. You can flush your iptables rules. sudo iptables --flush. That makes sure you dont have some firewall thing set up. Otherwise, if you have checked both computers for firewalls, likely a hardware issue.04:44
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treitternice.. just got a giant bag of Ubuntu love :)04:44
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stockif the computer is headless, but acts as an xserver for clients, i don't need all the xserver-* packages, do i?04:44
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jeff303I followed the instructions on the wiki which said to change the "main restricted" us repository from hoary to breezy04:44
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bimberiarg|bx: ... and specify which ones you want as /, /boot (or whatever)04:44
jeff303kvantti: sorry meant that for you04:44
indigirl1jeff303: yes just change all occurences of the word hoary to breezy04:44
Alex`Woohoo, I installed Ubuntu 5.01 on my 12 year old mac clone w/64MB RAM, 2GB HD, and a 210MHz 604e.04:45
badmacktuckdabaR, thank you. someday i hope to be answering questions in here04:45
kvanttijeff303 yes, and you can just go ahead and define the updates and security too while you are at it04:45
dabaRjeff303: that is right, dist-uipgrade is a command line command, and not for synaptic.04:45
Alex`Firefox even ran on that thing, I was impressed.04:45
dabaRbadmacktuck: I answer even though I dont have a clue mostly:P...04:45
arg|bxbimberi: right, thats what i've done with the expert install. it did whine about "rather strange layouts" on some of the partitions, but none of the ones i want it involved with04:45
kvanttijeff303 i have the updates and security defined to official, which is "main restricted" i think04:45
badmacktuckhahaha04:45
Rex_dabaR: I got disconnected. We had just established that I could ping both computers from the other. Any other ideas?04:45
jeff303so, are the dist-upgrade and changing repositories in synaptic mutually exclusive, or do I need to do them both?04:46
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dabaRformer04:46
indigirl1jeff303: same place, /etc/apt/sources.list04:46
bimberiarg|bx: ah, k, i'm also wondering if it could be a bad CD (or burned from a bad ISO)04:46
dabaRif done properly.04:46
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indigirl1jeff303: synaptic just grabs its info from that file04:46
kvanttijeff303 you must do both to get it done, but the system is basically under the same subsystem04:46
dabaRtreitter: what payments did you have to make(customs...)04:46
kvanttijeff303 since04:46
indigirl1jeff303: only do one really04:47
treitterdabaR: I didn't pay anything04:47
bimberiarg|bx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto (although if you're playing with partitions you'll probably know most of that :) )04:47
pussfellerwhy is xine saying it cant play mp3s?04:47
WebLOCHbadmacktuck, the first is an intel PCIe Gigabit LAN, the other is Marvel 88E800104:47
arg|bxbimberi: well, i *did* merely assume that the iso was ok :)04:48
arg|bxnot realy pleased that i had to burn it to disk in the first place04:48
dabaRtreitter: we are working on convincing the Croatian customs authorities to allow for free entry of that into Croatia(well, Im not there, but ubuntu users from there are)04:48
jeff303ok makes more sense, thanks everybody04:48
bimberiarg|bx: :)04:48
indigirl1pussfeller: xine the frontend needs plugins to play files. looks for a xine-mp3 plugin package (or something similar)04:48
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indigirl1!starter guide04:49
ubotuindigirl1: Syntax error in line 104:49
kvanttiarg|bx if you download is giving errors, you can get those free shiny inst discs from shipit.ubuntu.com04:49
indigirl1!starter-guide04:49
ubotuindigirl1: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:49
indigirl1!starterguide04:49
uboturumour has it, starterguide is http://help.ubuntu.com/04:49
indigirl1pussfeller: check the installer guide for info like that, it is very helpful04:49
badmacktuckWebLOCH, thanks, duly noted. im out for the night.04:49
kvanttiarg|bx and do use md5sum to confirm your iso anyway.04:49
arg|bxkvantti: well, its kubuntu actually04:49
WebLOCHbadmacktuck, sleep well04:49
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arg|bxhmm, the packages file seems to fail verification :/04:50
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etzerdhello all04:50
FushiHeyo04:50
kvanttiarg|bx on my system, the kde desktop crashed after 3 minutes of usage, so i really dont trust kubuntu04:50
etzerdis this ubuntu chanel?04:50
rixthOkay, I tried to ask a 'smart' question but got ignored. Please guys- I'm needing help here! == apt-get is segfaulting. I have rebooted, reseated my memory, still faults. What should I try now?04:50
indigirl1etzerd: of course04:50
FushiYes this is:o04:51
arg|bxkvantti: hmm, that doesn't sound nice04:51
indigirl1rixth: does synaptic give a helpful error message?04:51
rixthindigirl1, I use the commandline, and no, it does not04:51
stockis it only apt-get that segfaults?04:52
kvanttiarg|bx ubuntu has given me 1 crash in 5.04, and that was by the help system. talk about reliability..04:52
rixthReading package lists... Done04:52
rixthSegmentation faulty tree... 50%04:52
rixthNot helpful at all!04:52
treitterdabaR: I'm sure there are other countries require customs fees. I wonder how those countries are handled04:52
stockhmmm04:52
stockis that a segfault?04:52
arg|bxkvantti: aye, whereas debian hasn't crashed on me in 5 years....04:52
arg|bxsave for kdm being a bit stupid from time to time04:52
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dabaRarg|bx: well, the system here is not crashing either...04:53
fizzlehey i got ubuntu but when i installed it before it ran slow because i only have 128mb of memory. is there any way to free memory to make it run smoother?04:53
kvanttiarx|bx have a shot with ubuntu. the kde is something i think which is more windows-accustomed people by the looks of it.04:53
Rex_Anyone else have any ideas how I can access a Windows folder that I think I'm sharing over the network under Ubuntu, or why the "Places" -> "Network servers" dialog doesn't seem to be working for this?04:53
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arg|bxkvantti: i develop a kde app :)04:54
kvanttifizzle since the minimun is 96, i believe you are running at the edge of ram. i would buy something like 512 if i were you04:54
Xenguyfizzle: you can try running xfce4 for a leaner desktop environment, but those bloated apps like OOo will never run fast on older hardware unforutnately04:54
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arg|bxhow do i get the regular installer to forget about the network interface?04:54
indigirl1rixth: one post from google search says works for them:   delete /var/cache/apt/*.bin04:54
fizzlekvantti; yeah i agree but RDRAM costs too much for me04:54
fizzleim on a p4 1.5ghz04:54
fizzlei usually use fluxbox but for some reason fluxbox locks up in ubuntu04:55
dabaRarg|bx: forget how? there is an option.04:55
stockrixth, http://hamsterrepublic.com/james/linux/index.php04:55
stockthe answer seems to be there04:55
dabaRfizzle: use openbox, if you will.04:55
Xenguyfizzle: that sounds like sufficient hardware to me04:55
dabaRfizzle: it is in universe.04:55
indigirl1rixth: i searched google.com/linux for segmentation faulty tree. you might want to try that for more info04:55
arg|bxdabaR: it wants me to choose one of eth0, eth1 or usb04:55
rixthWow! Much love for indigirl1!04:55
Xenguyfizzle: anyway, xfce4 is worth a look04:55
rixthThanks!04:55
kvanttiarg|bx when it has attempted dhcp configuration, you can select "do not configure at this time" and a tweak to make that possible is to disconnect your dsl modem from the interface, which makes the config impossible04:55
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dabaRkvantti: what what what?(kyle's mom) no, you can have it all connected.04:56
arg|bxkvantti: you're right, i must have been too quick on the enter key :)04:56
indigirl1rixth: sounds like that worked then04:56
rixthindigirl1, sure did. thank you04:57
indigirl1great04:57
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kvanttidabaR well at least it can be done by disallowing the configuration with the option04:57
benguinhi there04:57
dabaRkvantti: that part yes.04:57
benguinanyone has a laptop with an ATI IXP soundcard?04:58
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indigirl1benguin: i do. toshiba satellite04:58
kvanttidabaR i only use wlan and the setup is a bit different for me..04:58
benguinhi indigirl1 ..04:58
benguinindigirl1: do you use skype on linux?04:58
indigirl1benguin: no have not tried it on linux04:58
snausagesskype is so bad on ubuntu04:58
benguinI am having a few problems with audio on my Pavilion ZX5000.04:58
snausagesand probably every other distro04:58
indigirl1benguin: be specific04:59
benguinI have followed the alsa-esd howto to support multiple programs with sound simultaneously04:59
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benguini am, indigirl1 .. just laying the background04:59
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benguinI also have a winmodem, that i don't use..04:59
benguinbut alsa picks up that device as a sound card04:59
arg|bxok, partitionner running...05:00
benguinloads the snd_atiixp_modem driver05:00
dabaRbenguin: if you post in one line, that is better, cause then anyone can read it...05:00
indigirl1benguin: you probably know winmodems are notorious in linux.05:00
benguinkoay dabaR05:00
benguinand indigirl1 : yes, i know. I don't use that modem.05:00
arg|bx..and whining about strange layouts on my debian partitions...05:00
varsendaggerarg|bx, why the debate between ubuntu and debian?05:01
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arg|bxvarsendagger: debate?05:01
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indigirl1benguin: if esd is a sound server you may want to try without that for testing05:01
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benguinokay, all in one line. when i call someone or receive a call in skype, the person at the other end can hear me cleanly. I cannot hear the other end, however. I get loads of noise on my headphone or speaker output.05:01
jnymoare there less troden ubuntu channels?05:02
benguinindigirl1: i do not run esd. I did a killall esd before testing.05:02
arg|bxjnymo: that depends on what a troden is05:02
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jnymoarg|bx: traffic05:02
indigirl1benguin: have you tried it with different people?05:02
pussfellerso why doesnt xine play mp3s anymore, i thot 32codecs gave xine mp3 power05:02
benguinindigirl1: yes i have05:03
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arg|bxjnymo: ahh. well, busy is better than silent :)05:03
indigirl1pussfeller: use xmms to play mp305:03
jnymoarg|bx: very true..05:03
rixthOne more question. How can I get the address bar back in Nautilus? It has dissapear. I miss being able to type "smb://hostname"05:03
indigirl1pussfeller: w32codecs is not for mp3 files i dont think05:03
pussfelleri need xine as an engine for amarok05:03
indigirl1pussfeller: i think amarok can use other engines05:04
kvanttia little of a hint. if you are low on cash and need a 5.1 system, the zalman theatre 6 5.1 headset is about 30-40 bucks..05:04
dabaRpussfeller: read pms from ubotu05:04
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kvanttii really find this hardware to be excellent..05:04
pussfelleri know, i want xine , gstreamer not good yet05:04
benguinindigirl1: one additional thing, if it is of any value: I have used skype under hoary. without problems.05:04
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kvanttipussfeller try out vlc..05:04
pppoe_dudelol... #windows05:04
reteri am having trouble with synaptic. it is not taking my passwords. what do i need to do?05:04
pussfelleri have lame and all that05:04
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towshebaHell0 again05:04
pppoe_dudereter, u mean when you open it up?05:05
n0dlpppoe_dude: hey whats happenin its me n0odl305:05
indigirl1reter: why does synaptic need a password?05:05
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n0dlpppoe_dude: how do i fix keys again?05:05
pppoe_duden0dl, wasap?05:05
pppoe_duden0dl, lol u seriuos?05:05
indigirl1benguin: try an earlier version of skype maybe05:06
reterindigirl1, i dont know why it needs a password. it always ask for one and then it rejects it05:06
pppoe_dudereter, you prolly enabled a root account, try from a commandline: gksu synaptic05:06
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reterpppoe_dude, yes when i try to open it05:06
n0dlpppoe_dude: yeah i dont know where i put my notes05:06
benguinindigirl1: okay, will do.05:06
indigirl1reter: to become root maybe. thats not a problem with synaptic.05:06
n0dlpppoe_dude: what was the command? gpgkeyserve05:06
benguinindigirl1: wondering if this is just skype or the soundcard itself05:06
pppoe_duden0dl, is it with the same server?05:06
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indigirl1reter: set your root passwd      sudo passwd root05:07
indigirl1reter: on the command line05:07
reterunknown id gksu05:07
indigirl1benguin: not the soundcard because you said it worked earlier05:07
kvanttii wonder where one enables 5.1 output in the vlc setup. the program is crowded with options and i cant find that option..05:07
n0dlpppoe_dude: no but i just want to know it for refrence if you dont mind ^-^05:07
arg|bxbimberi: i have no idea why it was stopping before, the simple installer seems to have gone right on by the kernel installation...05:07
pppoe_duden0dl, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys [key number] 05:07
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benguinindigirl1: yeah i know.. maybe the alsa or something.. oh well. thanks for the help.05:08
pppoe_dudeapt-key add ~/pubring.gpg05:08
indigirl1benguin: try without alsa05:08
arg|bxhopefully it hasn't trompped on the mbr05:08
indigirl1benguin: try out oss05:08
kvanttibenguin you can install gnome-alsamixer which is much better than the default mixer tool05:08
pppoe_duden0dl, *apt-key add ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg05:08
benguinindigirl1: why oss, may i ask?05:08
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indigirl1benguin: i wonder if you have volumes too high. look around in alsamixer for mutes and volumes05:08
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pppoe_duden0dl, all as root or with sudo05:08
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benguinkvantti: thanks, will check05:08
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indigirl1benguin: try oss to see if alsa is a problem05:09
benguinindigirl1: checked everything. volumes are as normal as it can be05:09
pppoe_dudereter, why don't you just use apt-get?05:09
benguinindigirl1: i load the alsa oss emulation module. is that enough?05:09
arg|bxmolasses uphill running05:09
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indigirl1benguin: emulation sounds like a bad word. you want pure stuff when testing or troubleshooting05:09
bimberiarg|bx: k, that's strange but good i guess :)05:10
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benguinindigirl1: okay, i don't have OSS compiled in this kernel. will check it out.05:10
n0dlpppoe_dude: cool thanx. have you ever heard of polyphasic sleep?05:10
indigirl1reter: yea try apt-get instead. its much more responsive05:10
pppoe_duden0dl, whats that?05:10
sethkbenguin, you want to use the OSS compatibility part of ALSA.  Don't compile OSS into the kernel05:11
n0dlpppoe_dude: its when you sleep 15-30 every four hours instead of sleeping 8 hrs strait05:11
pppoe_dudeanyone noticed with firefox 1.0.7 the following bug?: pressing the back button twice quickly results in a crash05:11
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benguinsethk: thats what i did05:11
arg|bxbimberi: i guess, but after you mentioned verifying the iso i asked the d-i to check the cd integrity.. it failed instantly..05:12
indigirl1benguin: thats right. no need to recompile kernel. you dont want the outdated stuff.05:12
rixthn0dl, Don't I remember you coming into #ubuntu yesterday with the nickanme 'RICK_JAMES_BITCH'?05:12
sethkbenguin, just making sure.  OSS is still there, and that would definitely be a mistake.  :)05:12
kvanttisethk the oss is not active if you don't select it as output method. is there some reason not to have oss available?05:12
indigirl1benguin: sorry if i told you wrong05:12
benguinindigirl1: thats why i was kinda confused with ODD05:12
benguinOSS rather05:12
pppoe_duden0dl, interesting... i bet it results in more dreaming.... but prolly needs a lot of determination05:12
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n0dlrixth: that wasnt me that was bored2k05:12
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n0dlpppoe_dude: lol well imma try it out now05:12
sethkkvantti, I think there are probably cases where oss is the default and the newer ALSA interface is better.05:12
pppoe_dudelol05:12
sethkkvantti, so if oss is available you don't get the optimal result05:13
bimberiarg|bx: ah, but it's installing anyway?05:13
rixthn0dl, he had the same hostname & username as you...05:13
benguinindigirl1,sethk: no pure OSS support at all in this kernel. I have alsa compatibility modules loaded05:13
pppoe_dudeyo you guys should see #windows... its hilarious05:13
indigirl1benguin: amarok is kde based right? i remember having sound problems with kde stuff. i would unload kde05:13
benguinsnd_pcm_oss05:13
arg|bxbimberi: yes05:13
sethkbenguin, that should do it05:13
benguinindigirl1: i use gnome. no trace of kde here05:13
pppoe_dudebut i guess out of respect i shouldnt say that05:13
n0dlrixth: sorry that wasnt me that was bored2k trust me05:13
n0dlrixth:  you can go to ubuntu forums and ask05:13
n0dlif you want05:13
rixthn0dl, nope I believe you05:13
kvanttisethk so it improves quality if oss is not available? that is very strange since the audio system should not use oss in any way if alsa is selected to my intuition atleast05:14
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indigirl1benguin: well if sound in other apps works and skype doesnt then i would go after skype cause thats your problem. try an earlier version of skype05:14
n0dlrixth: have you heard of polyphasic sleep by any chance?05:14
Ep|phanyanyone here know how i can reinstall audio drivers?05:14
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bimberiarg|bx: well that's ... um ... interesting :)05:14
benguinindigirl1: I will post something in the skype forum, see what happens05:14
sethkkvantti, My memory may not be correct on this, so check it out.  There are apps that do things themselves rather than let the audio system do it for them.  This is an error, of course, but such apps exist.05:14
pppoe_dude"I cant05:14
pppoe_dude, i'm not a major windows guy :)"05:14
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benguinindigirl1, sethk: just was wondering if anyone else has the same problem05:15
arg|bxbimberi: well, it could be the d-i doesn't do the verification properly after the installer has started05:15
sethkbenguin, you can be certain that lots of other people have the same problem, absolutely.05:15
kvanttii have this problem that i keep waking up at 3-4 am every now and then..but do talk about medicine in #ubuntu-offtopic i believe :)05:15
arg|bxbimberi: i tried to run it a second time but it wouldn't admit the cd was an ubuntu cd05:15
benguinsethk: that'd make me happy, in a kinda sadistic way. maybe they'll fix it soon.05:15
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ecobuntu!javadebs05:16
ubotuI heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/05:16
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benguinsethk: my desktop has SB Live!, runs breezy too. No problems with skype there.05:16
indigirl1Ep|phany: why would you reinstall drivers?05:16
sethkbenguin, you would have to search for a long, long time to find a problem that other people don't have and you do.05:16
pppoe_duden0dl, polyphasic sleep will prolly do some damage, as your brain wouldn't get a chance to enter crucial stages of sleep05:16
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pppoe_duden0dl, your immune system gets a boost during deep sleep, which unfortunately you wont reach that way ;)05:16
sethkpppoe_dude, what?  I can't concentrate on such a long sentence, because of my sleep disruption05:16
arg|bxyay, nice to see it asked before eating the mbr :)05:17
kvanttippoe_dude yeah something is obviously wrong with me too since i feel extremely tired all the time but i still cant sleep05:17
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alekzhow can i change a profile in firefox ?05:17
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towshebaHell0..once again05:17
pppoe_dudekvantti, have you tried turning your computer off :P?05:17
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towshebaNo one is alive in #fluxbox and I wanted to know if there is any one willing to help me with the fluxbox right click menu05:18
kvanttippoe_dude hehehe i have played ancient domains of mystery for the last 8 years so not very often ;)05:18
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TheBeasttowsheba: you cd ~/.fluxbox and you edit the "menu" file which is present in that directory according to your needs05:18
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towshebathnk you05:19
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arg|bxerr, checking all filesystems :(05:19
threeseaswhat other type of things can cause ubuntu installed to freeze up besides acpi and powernowd ?05:19
pppoe_dudeits fun to experiment with sleep tho... www.lucidity.com05:19
TheBeastyou most likely already have some entries, so follow the syntax05:19
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kvanttiso is it really true that ext3 does not fragmentate at all..?05:20
TheBeast[exec]  (THIS IS MY COOL ENTRY) {/usr/bin/firefox}05:20
castdoes ubuntu ship with xen support?05:20
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Ep|phanyanyone know how to reinstallthe defualt audio drivers?05:20
TheBeastit'll launch firefox05:20
pppoe_dudekvantti, it probably does to a lesser extent, but theres no apparent way to defragment it05:20
towshebaDamnit I need to quit closing things05:20
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indigirl1alekz: change it how? like create a new one? create a new linux user and login from that username05:20
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indigirl1threeseas: anything can cause a freeze05:21
towshebacd ~/ .fluxbox is what you said correct? TheBeast:05:21
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indigirl1Ep|phany: what do you mean by reinstall? and why would you want to?05:22
kvanttippoe_dude so that would mean that the need to not reinstall ubuntu ever is not that black and white?05:22
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WebLOCHnighty all05:22
leilsonOla05:22
trigg3rhello05:22
WebLOCHthanks again dabaR05:22
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indigirl1kvantti: reinstall will rarely fix a problem. thats just avoiding the problem05:22
trigg3rquick q: how do you access samba shares from the CLI?05:22
majykanyone have any problems where their sound card was working fine then just stopped working (5.10)?05:22
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towshebawell it would help is my bbconfig package was not broken :P05:23
pppoe_dudekvantti, i think that ext3 is self-maintaining, and when you run fsck, delete files, add new files, etc... it repairs itself to a certain extent05:23
castmajyk: changed the kernel?05:23
Ep|phanywell see what happened was i installed this gstream0.8-mad thing so i could use mp3s in amorok but when i did that it uninstalled something and now i can only change the volume on master and not the volume for pc speakers and the sound icon shows it as mute05:23
majykcast, I haven't changed anything05:23
indigirl1majyk: tons of people have had that problem im sure05:23
threeseasindigirl1: in other words ubuntu is no where near as stable as other distrobutions?05:23
Ep|phanyindigirll read the above05:23
indigirl1threeseas: of course its as stable. its based on debian05:23
kvanttippoe_dude allright that relieved much05:23
indigirl1Ep|phany: thats not a driver problem05:24
majykI get no errors trying to play music, I just get no sound. I've looked at the mixer and it is not muted05:24
castindigirl1: yes but is it based on debian stable? ;)05:24
trigg3rany takers please? how can I access SMB shares via CLI?05:24
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aedestrigg3r, smbclient05:24
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Ep|phanyindigirll what type of problem is it?05:24
trigg3raedes: this is all CLI?05:24
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pppoe_dudemajyk, is esd running? i think its a bit buggy... try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, then sudo esd&05:24
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threeseasindigirl1: not correct, I've run other debain based distros and never have I had so many freeze and lockup problems05:25
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kvanttippoea_dude fsck warns me that it should not be run since my part is mounted, so could you explain me how it would be possible to run it safely?05:25
towshebaso any one here seen the syphany os unique desktop?05:25
tritiumthreeseas, ubuntu is stable05:25
towshebait is quite a bute05:25
indigirl1threeseas: it just depends what causes the freezes. be specific what youre doing when they happen05:25
choudeshtowsheba, yes.05:25
kvanttiubuntu is superior in it's stability. in crash in 5.04 for me05:25
pppoe_dudekvantti, sure, do you have root enabled?05:25
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trigg3raedes: hold on, gonna try that out..thanks!05:26
kvanttippoea_dude i just use sudo -i . would the command be unmount dev/hda2?05:26
castkeep in mind people stable is a relative term, one persons stable is anothers testing. as ubuntu shows05:26
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indigirl1Ep|phany: software problem. youre not locked into amarok and gstreamer. there are tons of ways to play mp3 files. xmms, mp3blaster, alsaplay. alsamixer can adjust your volumes. just try other programs if youre stuck.05:26
boa-chani installed sshd, i just don't know how to run it. can annyone lend me a hand.05:26
pppoe_dudekvantti, no you should restart the system in single user mode (init 1 as root... you can try sudo init 1 - warning it will close everything)05:26
majykpppoe_dude, when I restart alsa-utils I get an error saying it cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing, but it does restart it05:26
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Ep|phanyindigirll its not a problem with software its a problem trying to adjust the volumefor everything05:27
pppoe_dudekvantti, then umount / and fsck /dev/hda05:27
kvanttippoe_dude thanks for the basic05:27
indigirl1boa-chan: there must be a tutorial for that. also look in /usr/share/doc/sshd for help.05:27
majykpppoe_dude, forget that, I forgot sudo05:27
indigirl1boa-chan: and maybe there is a sshd-doc package for more documentation05:28
boa-chantheres nothing under /doc for sshd05:28
kvanttithese tunes at shoutcast.com digitally imported/ambient chillout really rock..i dont really see why someone has to have that 100 gig mp3 collection..05:28
threeseasubuntu live has no problem with using its acx wireless driver on my system, by the installed ubuntu can't ... lock up/freeze have been addressed by disabling acpi and powernowd and on the ubuntu forums board there seems to be other things that can cause it. I don't find these sort of lockup problems being discussed on distros like knoppix, college linux or even outright debain...05:29
indigirl1boa-chan: apt-get install sshd-doc     if that package exists05:29
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boa-chank05:29
boa-channope05:29
boa-chandoesnt05:29
boa-chanheh05:29
pppoe_dudedoesnt ubuntu stability depend heavily on the kernel? so i think it's unfair to call ubuntu (or any other distro for that matter) "unstable"05:29
dabaRno not really.05:29
threeseasI still have lockups, but it seems to takle less time before it happens05:30
dabaRdepends on how you define stability.05:30
indigirl1Ep|phany: where do you adjust sound from? inside amarok or from a mixer program? i would suggest using a mixer program, for example alsamixer, or something similar05:30
kvanttiyeah, a software that is at version 10 is rarely unstable..but gnome is much stable than kde to my experience, and every piece of software is a part of the system..so stability does not depend solely on the system ever05:30
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sophie_pppoe_dude: stability is a lot often related to configuration05:30
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Toma-what speed does a 802.11b wifi transfer at? in bytes05:30
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boa-chanhaw05:31
boa-changet wireless g05:31
boa-chanso much faster05:31
Toma-yes. but i have a b.05:31
mpm2not for internet boa-chan05:31
indigirl1Toma-: 11mbits/sec maybe05:31
boa-chanb are maxed at 11 mbps i think05:31
kvanttiToma- i believe that 11 meg is maximum..i got 54 meg 11g ..05:31
Toma-info plz not an opinion05:31
Toma-hmmm ok05:31
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boa-chanmpm2, im referring to lan speed.05:31
Toma-thanks :)05:31
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castpppoe_dude: of course it does. the stability of a system is the sum of its parts, if any part is unstable that renders the whole system unstable. thus its just to call the system unstable, and fwiw there are other kernels around ;), not to mention more tried versions then 2.605:31
pppoe_dudesophie_, true, however usually you can still render a different distro "unstable" by making a similar configuration... i think it boils down to the ideas in the distro05:32
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reteri am trying to upgrade to breezy and it told me that it needs 476mb from archives. what do i do?05:32
PirogethIs there a howto somewhere on how to compile an ubuntu kernel with GRSEC?05:32
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mpm2I guess most people here are informed, but so many people are deceived by advertising to believe that the 'g' standard will give them faster internet05:32
reterit is unable to upgrade until it gets 476mb free from archives05:32
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indigirl1kvantti: the tunes from the bb program are pretty cool. and i think its just midi!05:32
pppoe_dudecast, so we're really talking about the system being unstable "out-of-the-box"?05:32
threeseaslook thru the ubuntu forums board... compair what you find there with other distro decussion - I wish ubunti was more stable than it apparently is, as there are things I do like about it... but its not helping to promote it (as media stories recently have) as being business ready --- doesn't give a good impression for linux in general...05:32
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dabaRreter: that is the upgrade, use the Internet.05:33
Toma-pppoe_dude: are u trolling?05:33
tritiummpm2, the speed increase is between the wireless card and the router05:33
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angryBeaverhi - I have a weird problem - my desktop is shifted over about 4 pixels or so.  I'm on a laptop with 1024x768 native res.  Is there a way to shift the screen?05:33
dabaRpah, that threeseas sentence is a stupid one.05:33
kvanttimpm2 for me the antennea and ubuntu is the key to good performance..windows if at all comparable gave me 25% strenght, and on the ubuntu drivers, the reliability is much better. also make sure to enable frame bursting if possible05:33
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PirogethI am trying to figure out how to apply GRSec to the ubuntu kernel. Is there a guide somewhere on how to add grsec to ubuntu?05:34
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dabaRjust completely a selfishly put sentence, as if we care about his "business needs"05:34
pppoe_dudeToma-, not really... just trying to be a bit philosophical... which could be in your terms considered "trolling"05:34
tritiumhe's just trolling, dabaR05:34
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dabaRright05:34
angryBeaverhi - I have a weird problem - my desktop is shifted over about 4 pixels or so.  I'm on a laptop with 1024x768 native res.  Is there a way to shift the screen?05:34
Toma-philosophy in a help channel... :)05:34
boa-chanlol05:34
boa-chani've seen worse05:34
Toma-angryBeaver: have you tried using your monitor?05:34
boa-chanand i got sshd to run05:34
boa-chanthanks05:34
boa-chanand mpm205:34
indigirl1Pirogeth: im guessing youve tried a search for   ubuntu grsec   at google.com/linux05:34
boa-chanwifi g is faster for lan speeds05:34
boa-channot internet speeds05:35
Pirogethindigirl1: i have, and had no luck so far =/05:35
angryBeaverno - don't have a monitor where I am right now05:35
kvanttithis channel is about the community and aid in the community. what would opinions and phisolophy not be if not aid on the intellectual part of the ubuntu system?05:35
Toma-and yes, my b wifi is only for connecting to the net. no lan fun here05:35
pppoe_dudenice... the term 'trolling' was used in the same time period in two different cases just now05:35
boa-chanheh05:35
boa-chanthen b is more than enuf05:35
boa-chanbut i must use g05:35
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mpm2anyone experienced with getmail??05:36
angryBeaveris there somewhere you can tweak display settings other than just the resolution and standard stuff05:36
boa-chani use it to transfer tsuff from my server pc05:36
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boa-chanwhich is over 1 gb05:36
boa-chanerr05:36
angryBeaverit's a laptop, so I can't adjust it there05:36
boa-chan1tb*05:36
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Toma-angryBeaver: with the xorg.conf file, but dont go tweaking stuff you dont understand, otherwise it will leave your laptop in ruins05:36
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boa-chanheh05:37
DavidLeeRothis a driver for the ATi Radeon X700 included in the ubuntu cd?05:37
boa-chanhe could gry his lcd too05:37
boa-chanfry05:37
ubuntu???05:37
angryBeaverIt's a laptop - there aren't any controls for the display05:37
boa-chanDavidLeeRoth, http://www.ati.com05:37
indigirl1angryBeaver: xvidtune    maybe, although its warning is scary05:37
tritiumDavidLeeRoth, yes, fglrx05:37
varsendaggeranyone get xmms-mplayer plugin working?05:38
tritiumboa-chan, there are fglrx packages.  No need for going to ati's website05:38
kvanttiDavidLeeRot the generic radeon drivers should work, as x11 drivers has support for my card as well as many others05:38
angryBeaverIt's an old compaq that I've revived from Windows ME Hell05:38
DavidLeeRoththank you all05:38
DavidLeeRothYANKEE ROSE05:38
boa-chantritium, ok.05:38
sethkDavidLeeRoth, I have a laptop with radeon, it works reasonably well05:38
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indigirl1DavidLeeRoth: install the fglrx driver i think05:38
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choudeshangryBeaver, Windows ME Hell? I think Hell would have been much nicer.05:38
pppoe_dudegnome-video-thumbnailer takes up a lot of resources05:38
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kvanttii got excellent performance with my nvidia card and i dont see that x11 is any poorer than forceware05:39
angryBeaverchoudesh, true.  very true05:39
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alex__Can someone help me with a network permissions problem?05:39
tritium!tell DavidLeeRoth about ati05:39
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indigirl1alex__: dont ask to ask just ask05:39
Reiddoes anyone know how to configure an xserver?05:39
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DShepherdhey05:39
alex__I have a share on a windows machine with music and the such. I can't seem to get write permissions from this machine05:40
indigirl1Reid: be specific. configure what how?05:40
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pppoe_dudeReid, what kind of configuration are you looking for?05:40
Toma-alex__: what network protocol u using?05:40
Reidi'm not sure05:40
alex__Samba05:40
aedessome one needs to make an anjuta package for Ubuntu05:40
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Reidit errors out and says 'run drm again when xserver is configured correctly05:40
Reid'05:40
benguinhi again05:40
castaedes: well get to work ;p05:40
paxmasterhow could I make my ati working so my brother will use linux05:40
_jasonaedes, isn't there one?05:41
benguinindigirl1, sethk : just to report back in.. using an older version of skype solved the problem05:41
indigirl1paxmaster: ati works on ubuntu05:41
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indigirl1benguin: lol. cool05:41
_jasonaedes, I think I just isntalled it a few minutes ago05:41
paxmasterhe only like to play05:41
angryBeaverubuntu is great05:41
benguinindigirl1: thats what you call an UP-grade05:41
benguinlol05:41
paxmasterso how could I configure it05:41
indigirl1benguin: you told me the solution in your own words. i just repeated it back to you.05:41
DShepherdpaxmaster: oh you want the various games to work as well05:41
sethkbenguin, that's good to know; I have to use skype next month when my software is installed on the manufacturing floor in Taiwan, so I appreciate the information05:41
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dabaRwhat is that apt-get command to clear out ../apt/cache/archives?05:41
alex__I mounted my share via fstab and mount -a... I can read it fine but I cant make any changes05:41
benguinindigirl1: yeah well, i believe in progress.. hehe. thanks though.05:42
paxmasteri have cedega05:42
benguinsethk: no problems... next target.. software suspend205:42
bimberi!info anjuta05:42
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ubotuanjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB05:42
paxmasterinstall05:42
angryBeaveris it difficult to network ubuntu with a windows machine?05:42
benguinindigirl1: indy racing?05:42
angryBeavergoing thru the same router05:42
sethkbenguin, tougher target, good luck.05:42
bimberiaedes: it's in the universe repository05:42
castdabaR: have you looked at man apt-get and apt-get help?05:42
benguinubotu: what happened to anjuta205:42
ubotubenguin: I give up, what is it?05:42
Toma-alex__: samba isnt my forte :(05:42
dabaRcast: oh yeah.05:42
indigirl1benguin: dog's name05:42
paxmastersome one can guide me or just show a howto05:42
benguinseth, ubotu: software suspend2 almost works.. it's an issue with apic in my laptop.05:43
Reidokay does anyone know why i'd get an error stating 'failed to start the xserver'?05:43
benguinubotu: in windows terms: hibernation05:43
ubotubenguin: Not a clue05:43
alex__Is it possible to set up another protocol with Windows?05:43
castalex__: i suggest ftp ;p05:43
bimberiaedes: if you have breezy - Applications -> Add Application -> Programming -> More Programs -> Anjuta IDE05:43
benguinubotu: like, shutting down your comp so that your work remains where they were next time you start it up.05:43
ubotubenguin: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:43
indigirl1Reid: lots of possible reasons05:43
bimberiubotu tell benguin about yourself05:43
indigirl1Reid: that error message is very general05:44
benguineh! lol05:44
benguinindigirl1: gotcha :)05:44
Reidalright would it be a problem with the ati card?05:44
Reidsorry i'm relatively new to linux05:44
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sethkReid, it could be, but it could be a million other things also05:44
sethkReid, you have to look at the X log05:44
tritiumReid, first places to look are at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:44
sethkReid, which is I believe /var/log/X.something05:45
Pirogeth=/05:45
mpm2I'm getting an error when trying to use the getmail I installed on Hoary with synaptic that it can't find the Python module getmailcore, that appears to be installed in the correct location... anyone have a clue as to how to troubleshoot this?05:45
ubuntuI am on Live, but I can't see my hdd with my favourite mp3s05:45
sethkReid, usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:45
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dabaRcast: how come you have a fsf/member/cast mask?05:45
sethkReid, although occasionally the 0 might be 105:45
Reidsethk what am i looking for in those files?05:45
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sethkReid, at the end of the file, it will tell you why it shut down05:45
castdabaR: associate member :>05:46
Reidalright...05:46
dabaRcast: I see }:-)05:46
indigirl1for some silly reason my root partition is mounted readonly. how do i remount it readwrite? or do i have to reboot?05:46
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tritiumReid, in the log file, look for any errors, indicated by (EE)05:47
sethkindigirl1, that means that something went wrong during boot and the boot didn't complete05:47
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pppoe_dudeindigirl1, hmm... try sudo mount -a?05:47
F-Lazeranyone that want to help set up a webpage with apache2?05:47
sethkindigirl1, that's a serious problem, generally.  You have to track it down.05:47
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Reidalright,my laptop lost power, i'm rebooting and getting the same error05:47
sethkindigirl1, it is very unlikely that it will allow you to remount read/write, but even if it will, that's not what you need to be doing.05:47
castwhat would happen if you mounted over the top of /?05:47
dabaRF-Lazer: help in what way...05:47
Reidnow opening log file05:47
pppoe_dudecast, you wouldnt be able to do that05:47
benguinowright, im outta here for now .. thanks a bunch people.05:47
benguinnight05:47
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pppoe_dudecast, if / was mounted on already05:48
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F-Lazerwell, never done this before so, show how to do and stuff like that05:48
indigirl1i had some inode errors yesterday. i think its this resurfacing.05:48
Reidokay the error is radeon(0): driscreeninit filed disaling dri05:48
castindigirl1: manpage has remount option05:48
F-Lazeri've tryed a couple of times, but i never get it to work05:48
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dabaRF-Lazer: did you install apache2?05:49
Reidis there any way to fix that?05:49
F-Lazeryupp, its installed05:49
sethkReid, hm.  that sounds perhaps like dri support is missing from the kernel05:49
pppoe_dudeso anyone notices constant/intermittent harddisk activity in breezy? i think it has to do with ext3... but i'm sure theres some variable that i can cchange05:49
dabaRF-Lazer: and you would like us to help you write HTML?05:49
sethkReid, is this a standard installation?05:49
indigirl1Reid: maybe comment out the dri line in your x config file05:49
varsendagger-watching streaming tv with mplayer?05:50
F-Lazerisnt there complete forums n stuff u just download?05:50
Reidi had to put in the command linux vga=771 for laptop moniter compatibility05:50
varsendagger-watching streaming tv with mplayer05:50
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Reidbut other than that yes05:50
kvanttiF-Lazer basic html tutorials are very common on the web. and apache configuration should be explained on the website in completion05:50
dabaRF-Lazer: there is. start with what ubotu sends you.05:50
sethkReid, I had to do that on install also on my radeon box05:50
indigirl1Reid: this error and the vga thing are unrelated05:51
sethkReid, once installed, it was ok05:51
kvanttiF-Lazer also search for apache in the ubuntu forums..05:51
F-Lazerhavent got that far... i barely got it to install05:51
F-Lazerim totally new to this05:51
sethkReid, you chose the default kernel to install?05:51
Reidyes05:51
F-Lazertried on a win pc too but i cant figure it out05:51
sethkReid, strange.  You can try removing the dri module from /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:51
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sethkReid, before you make any changes to that file, back it up.05:52
sethkReid, there is also an apt-get command that reconfigures X.  Try that also.05:52
cast/dev/hda3             6.5G  574M  5.6G  10% /mnt/hda305:52
cast/dev/hda1             6.5G  574M  5.6G  10% /mnt/hda305:52
kvanttiF-Lazer type the command /join #apache ..seems to be a very popular channel05:52
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sethksomeone, tell Reid that magic apt-get incantation?05:52
F-Lazeri've read faq and support pages.. but they are so complicated anf filled with holes05:52
indigirl1i cant even read a manpage about remount. lol. man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system05:52
sethkindigirl1, of course05:52
F-Lazerok05:52
pppoe_dudeindigirl1: lol, do a init 005:53
sethkindigirl1, but I told you, mount/remount is totally irrelevant05:53
sethkindigirl1, you have to look at /var/log/messages, and/or dmesg, and see what happened and fix it.05:53
indigirl1sethk: ill probably run an e2fsk or whatever that program is to fix any errors05:53
castindigirl1: use zcat|less?05:53
dabaRF-Lazer: you can write "localhost" in your browser and press enter, taht will atke you to your home page of your computer. Other than that, you have to think of what exactly you want set up, and then ask us how to set it up.05:53
sethkindigirl1, highly unlikely to work.  but you can try.05:53
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slashx1896Hello05:54
Reidthere is no file /etcx11/xorg.conf05:54
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sethkReid, you are missing a slash05:54
sethkReid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:54
varsendaggeris there a wiki on playing streaming TV on ubuntu?05:54
castahh nvm. zcat|less is fugly05:54
sethkReid, also, capital X.  pay attention05:54
kvanttivarsendagger check out the MythTV software05:54
Reidsorry05:54
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Reidsethk: what if permission denied?05:55
indigirl1pppoe_dude: init 0 translates to reboot05:55
aruany idea why when I go to update the progress window pops up then immediatly closes?05:55
pppoe_dudeindigirl1, yes i was gonna tell you init 1 then init 2, but i wasn't sure if that remounts /05:55
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sethkReid, use sudo05:55
indigirl1pppoe_dude: i think root partition remains mounted05:55
varsendaggerkvantti, have you gotten anything05:56
Reidsethk: sudo?05:56
sethkReid, as in   sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:56
sethkReid, but don't forget to back up the xorg.conf file first05:56
pppoe_dudeindigirl1, you can always try... that used to happen to me when i e2fsck'd my hda, and then i got stuck and couldn't remount... so maybe best bet is to reboot05:56
sethkReid, but I think I'd try the X reconfig first.05:56
kvanttivarsendagger no, i plan on using it with a dvb-t usb device after christmas..but it looks like the soft for you is mythvideo which is found in the synaptic05:56
sethksomeone?  the apt-get command too reconfigure the X server?  (Sorry if I missed someone saying it earlier)05:57
indigirl1sethk: dpkg-reconfigure foo05:57
tritiumsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:57
sethktritium, thanks, I'll write it down this time.  People need it and I always ask.  :)05:57
tritium:)05:58
Reidthanks tritium05:58
varsendaggerkvantti, i wanted soemthign exactly like winamp's streaming tv service, and guess what, i  made it work!!!!!!05:58
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kvanttivarsendagger it's a digital television hybrid card and i was happily surprised when i found that those devices are allready supported..good for us :)05:58
pppoe_dudehmm apparently theres isnt even a remount manpage05:58
pppoe_dudeor a remount command05:58
sethkpppoe_dude, there is no remount.  it is just mount05:58
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pppoe_dudeya05:58
sethkpppoe_dude, you can use mount to remount05:58
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crimsunremount is an _option_ to pass to mount05:59
choudeshanyone on the unbuntu dev list? Anyone get a msg from 'Christopher Houdeshell'?05:59
aruso the update app isn't really for updating, it's just for looks?05:59
sethkpppoe_dude, but that's not her problem.  her problem is _why_ the remount failed.05:59
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pppoe_dudemount -a remount05:59
varsendaggeris there a ubuntu developer in here?05:59
castsethk: she'll realise that soon enough when she remounts rw only to have something break at a later time ;p05:59
castpppoe_dude: -a or -o?05:59
crimsunvarsendagger: what's the issue?05:59
pppoe_dudesethk, yes05:59
sethkcast, that's what concerns me.  :)06:00
pppoe_dudecast i guess it would be -o06:00
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pppoe_dude"option"06:00
kvanttihey crimsun, is there plans for a modern fps like cube to be added to the synaptic? that game is open source, and i have long wondered why there is no modern fps games found in the synaptic..06:00
casthave the fun of nix is shooting yourself in the foot :)06:00
varsendaggercrimsun, i just got streaming video to work and i want to write a wiki06:00
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casts/have/half06:00
pppoe_dudehey can i use mount -o remount to remount my ext3 to ext2?06:00
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froguzsomebody can tell me how to rebuild a hdlist file from a CentOS Install CD under ubuntu??06:01
crimsunvarsendagger: wiki.ubuntu.com is open for any registered user.06:01
sethkpppoe_dude, nah, only to ntfs06:01
varsendaggeri wanted to know if i would be stepping on any toes06:01
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aedesare there more video codecs for ubuntu?06:01
crimsunkvantti: what's the license?06:01
kvantticrimsun let me see06:01
crimsunvarsendagger: nope, feel free to go ahead and edit it06:01
dabaRcast: I would have expected more from a person with that mask. re: "half the fun of nix "06:01
kvantticrimsun the site is: http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/06:01
sethkvarsendagger, write away.  if there isn't already one in the wiki, then it will be appreciated, I'm quite sure.06:02
varsendaggergreat06:02
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sethkvarsendagger, of course be as exact as possible and don't overgeneralize (that is, beyond your specific configuration) if possible.06:02
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crimsunkvantti: it _may_ be able to be included in universe due to the zlib license but certainly won't be in main for Dapper06:03
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sethkvarsendagger, say, this worked for me with these parameters (and give _all_ the relevant parameters), and then perhaps "I believe this will work for other configurations"06:03
castdabaR: in my world nix roughly means unix like, which includes gnu, bsd, i don't see the problem?06:03
sethkvarsendagger, in other words, be a bit conservative.06:03
kvantticrimsun of course :) thankyou06:03
crimsunkvantti: if you would like to see it in Ubuntu, please add it to the list of candidates that we track for universe/multiverse06:03
jeff303after completing the hoary->breezy upgrade, after restarting, right after "uncompressing linux" I saw something like "FATAL: module EXT2 not found" or something like that... but everything seemed to work; should I be worried?06:03
dabaRcast: maybe that is so. Good.06:03
kvantticrimsun is that list in the wiki since i do not have any dev contacts?06:04
luisitohello people06:04
crimsunjeff303: nothing to worry about if your system boots (and by default it would use ext3)06:04
crimsunkvantti: yes06:04
varsendaggerok ok thankyou06:04
pussfelleris there a way with wget to dl all the links on a page?06:04
castnix06:05
castahh oops. sloppy focus died for a while06:05
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pppoe_dudepussfeller, i think you'd need permissions to list directory structure06:05
towshebaok Im back again for the 20th time tonight06:05
towsheba:(06:05
castdabaR: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Anix&sourceid=mozilla&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 i dont think im too far wrong :)06:05
crimsunpussfeller: yes, wget has a "follow" mode06:06
kvantticrimsun is there some kind of identifier for the page you can give me..i am in the CategoryDocumentation section. or a link, please?06:07
pppoe_dudesudo rm -rf / :P06:07
luisitoI have 2 questions before I go to sleep. 1- Can it be possible to have the windows menus on the panel (like Mac) in Gnome? (I know kde does).   2- Can I open a *.sit file in linux?06:07
towshebaIn xterm I type 'fluxconf' to get the fluxbox configuration tool but I get a error message Segmentation fault06:07
crimsunkvantti: please start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates06:08
sethktowsheba, run it under strace, see what it does just before it dies06:08
pppoe_dudeluisito, yes: window-selector. it's an applet in gnome-panel06:08
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towshebasethk, how exactly would I go about that?06:08
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kvantticrimsun thanks06:08
sethktowsheba, if you would normally do fluxconf, do:    strace -ff fluxconf06:08
dabaRcast: OK, the thing why I said that is that usually people say nix to refer to linux, dunno, Im just new.06:08
sethktowsheba, actually -f will do06:09
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sethktowsheba, strace -f fluxconf06:09
towshebak thnx06:09
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sethktowsheba, that will print out each O/S call the program invokes06:09
kvantticrimsun i discovered that cube is allready a candidate. it looks like the word has gotten around :)06:10
pppoe_dudehow can i stop intermittent harddisk activity? it happens every 2 seconds... seems to subside a bit if i enable laptop-mode06:10
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dabaRpppoe_dude: sure its not the computer working?06:10
luisitopppoe_dude, thanks, I have that. But I mean the menus of the application window. Like mac, when you select the window the menu of that window is shown in the panel.06:10
pppoe_dudedabaR: I'm sure. its very uniform and intermittent at a constant rate06:11
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pppoe_dudeluisito, oh.. like file edit etc..? i dont think thats possible06:11
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castdabaR: i should have probably said unix-like but im lazy. naming things correctly is fairly important else confusion ensures :)06:11
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dabaRhehe:)06:11
kvantticrimsun if not all parts of the software are open source, would that mean that the un-parts will be in multiverse, or could it hinder the process?06:11
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Crys_WinHey, people.06:12
dabaRcast: sweet, wanna /j #ubuntu-offtopic for a short  interview?:) I just have some questions...06:12
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crimsunkvantti: which parts aren't open?06:13
kvantticrimsun the network code06:13
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The_Isle_of_Markkvantti, where can one find a .deb?06:13
crimsunkvantti: yes, the license will be a hindrance06:13
kvantticrimsun so more waiting..well, atleast we got wolfenstein et and it actually has a good installer :)06:14
dabaRkvantti: code that is non free and only available in binary format goes to multiverse06:14
luisitopppoe_dude, that is what I am talking about :P . I find that way better than all the menus in each window. It saves space and look better.06:14
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crimsunwe may not be able to distribute cube at all if the license doesn't allow it06:15
towshebaok Im on my desktop this time :P (winxp)06:15
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towshebasethk: I tried strace -f fluxconf06:16
kvanttiThe_Isle_of_Mark if you are talking about the source, it is: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cube/cube_2005_08_29_src.zip?download06:16
sethktowsheba, ok, and?06:16
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towshebaand theres tones of no such files and dir listed here06:16
sethktowsheba, that's normal for an strace06:16
towshebakilled by SIGSEGV it says06:16
sethktowsheba, all you care about are the last few lines06:16
sethktowsheba, what happens just before the SIGSEGV?06:16
towshebano such file or directory06:17
towshebais what it says06:17
sethktowsheba, for what file?06:17
kvanttiThe_Isle_of_Mark we are talking about a highly unconventional and advanced engine. i i am interested to see what the "open" status will produce in the future06:17
towshebaSeg,emtation failt06:17
towshebaand all of them are missing06:17
towshebaim not sure how06:17
towshebaafter the 3rd render06:17
towshebathe rest are missing06:17
sethktowsheba, all I want is the last06:18
towshebathat is the last06:18
towshebawant me to c/paste the last 3 lines/06:18
towsheba?*06:18
kvanttiwow i just love this sounds at digitally imported's ambient chillout stream. all you electronica people, tune in right now! =)06:18
sethktowsheba, I meant the last filename06:18
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sethktowsheba, we may need to add more strace arguments.  Do this:   strace -o some-file-name -f -s 1024 fluxconf06:20
sethktowsheba, that will put the output into a file (replace some-file-name with a real filename) and you can paste it to a pastebot06:20
towsheba|64bittuhm..06:20
towsheba|64bittui dont know06:20
towsheba|64bittuone second06:20
sethktowsheba, the -s 1024 means keep 1024 bytes of any data in a call.06:20
towsheba|64bittuk then06:20
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testmeHi, can anyone help me with a problem with Evolution 2.4.1?06:21
FujitsuProbably.06:22
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towsheba|64bittuI get a segmentation fault06:22
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testmeFujitsu - there's a menu to the right of Help, that's about 1.5 characters wide... can't rewally tell what it's about, but it seems that after I clicked it, my Send/Recieve button stopped working, and even que'd messages aren't being sent!06:23
varsendaggerhow do i sign the ubuntu policy?06:23
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prashantHI all06:24
Fujitsuvarsendagger: You need GPG, just download it and sign the file!06:24
germancitoHi everybody06:24
Fujitsutestme: Who knows.06:24
linuxboyFujitsu: whats the ubuntu policy?06:24
germancitosome one here using nmapfe???06:24
varsendaggerFujitsu, do i apt-get it?06:24
Fujitsuvarsendagger, the policy, you mean?06:25
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prashanti am having a problem with my keyboard and mouseeeeee.         some leeeeeeeetters are too sticky06:25
testmeFujitsu - do you have a menu to the right of Help in Evolution?06:25
FujitsuNo, I don't...06:25
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FujitsuWhat version of Ubuntu are you running?06:25
prashantmouse : the synaptic scrrrrrrrrrroll does not wwwwwwwwwwork06:26
testme5.1006:26
prashantdapper drrrrrrrrrrake06:26
testmeevolution 2.4.106:26
FujitsuAhh, I am only using 5.04, with an earlier version of Evolution.06:26
varsendaggerFujitsu, physically? with gimp or how?06:26
FujitsuMy 5.10 CDs only arrived today, and I am about to install it...06:26
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varsendaggeri read the policy06:27
_texasim runnin 5.1006:27
testmeprashant - you can click in the package window, and type to get around... xscr would take you to xscreensaver, for example06:27
_texasgot problems with my graphics06:27
testmethanks anyway, Fujitsu06:27
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Fujitsuvarsendagger: No, with the GNU Privacy Guard. You have to generate a key, sign the policy, upload the key to the Ubuntu servers, and then upload the signed policy to the website.06:27
FujitsuJust wait a second...06:27
FujitsuI will post instructions momentarily.06:28
testmethere are tutorials if you have never used PGP or GPG before06:28
FujitsuOnce the Ubuntu machine beside me finishes setting itself up.06:28
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FujitsuProbably good to follow a tutorial in order to set up and generate keys, yes.06:28
Fujitsusudo apt-get install gpg will install it.06:28
FujitsuAnd....06:28
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AgamottoHallo all06:29
_texasanyone using Kubuntu 5.10 having Graphical issues? im having glitches bounce all over my screen06:29
Fujitsu*struggles to remember how to generate a key*06:29
FujitsuHello Agamotto.06:29
Agamotto_texas:  Only when I change resolutions very quickly06:29
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testme                                           do you know your graphics card, texas?06:29
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_texasNvidia Gerforce MX40006:29
varsendaggerFujitsu, thankyou06:29
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testmedid you try checking the wiki?06:30
_texasim new to linux and dont know what the Wiki is06:30
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Killer_Smurf!wiki06:30
FujitsuMy computer is too slow.06:30
otep!gpg06:30
ubotugpg is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/874606:30
FujitsuHeh\06:31
Agamotto_texas:  wikipedia is a freeform encyclopedia06:31
testmehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ for the Ubuntu wiki06:31
pppoe_dudewhat is the main difference between xfree86 and xorg?06:31
Lokadinhey why does gtk-gnutella complain that it is firewalled?/ when i am connected directly to dsl and don't have iptables06:31
FujitsuOf course, the family computer is not allowed to have Linux on it, is it :roll:06:31
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FujitsuInstalling Packages: 78%06:31
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Lokadinhey why does gtk-gnutella complain that it is firewalled?/ when i am connected directly to dsl and don't have iptables06:32
testmeis there something like /afk for irc?06:32
AgamottoFujitsu:  The family likes the weekly virus updates eh?06:32
Agamottotestme:  yes, type /away06:32
Lokadinhey why does gtk-gnutella complain that it is firewalled?/ when i am connected directly to dsl and don't have iptables06:32
testmethanks!06:32
cafuegopppoe_dude: the licence.06:32
Lokadincafuego: ? me06:32
mpm2anyone know the correct syntax for defining the prefix in a python setup script?  I'm trying to patch a broken install script06:32
castLokadin: surely you'll have iptables, id check sudo iptables -L just to make sure there are no rules06:33
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Lokadincast: kk06:33
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Lokadincast: oh wow, damn thanks06:34
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MadpilotLokadin: install Firestarter from the repos to manage your firewall, if you need to let something thru it - I had to explicitly open my bittorrent ports...06:34
LokadinMadpilot: o okay thanks :D06:35
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RedRoseis there a program to monitor my bandwidth? or how much data is going in and out of MY PC?06:36
castRedRose: sure is. i use iptraf for that06:36
moribuscan't connect to wpa-psk network. docs say ask for help.06:36
moribussudo /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf  -ieth1 -Dhostap returns this kinda stuff:06:36
moribusioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported06:36
moribusioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address06:36
moribusioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address06:36
cafuegoOh how I love LTSP; my amd64 is out of commission, but the crusty old laptop, 21" screen and apple keybd work fine :-)06:36
liableeven ifconfig shows what has been in/out since its been up..06:36
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crimsunliable: Breezy? Dapper?06:37
RedRosecrimsun:Both06:37
RedRosejust type ifconfig and it will tell the amount of packet's that's been in/out since the devices first connection06:37
liablecrimsun: err, misfire :)06:37
crimsunliable: sorry, that was directed at moribus06:38
liablenp06:38
moribus5.10, don't recall the cute name ;-)06:38
crimsun"Breezy"06:39
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moribuscrimsun: Breezy06:39
liablevegmocam?06:39
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pppoe_dudeis there a way to set a limit (%) on how much processor time a process can use?06:40
crimsunmoribus: what version firmware? Is it in monitor mode?06:40
moribuscrimsun: don't know. how do I tell??06:40
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gee_cee0hi06:40
moribuscrimsun: a link to docs is fine...06:40
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crimsunmoribus: would be in dmesg output. Note that the hostap driver requires at least firmware version 1.7.0 for the station and for the device to be in managed mode06:41
liablepppoe_dude: man nice?? dunno if its what you actually want..06:41
gee_cee0im having a problem ith GRUB06:42
szandoranyone have any luck getting a soundblaster live usb external to work under breezy?  it locks up when I try to play through it06:42
_texasAuthentication failure with SU command , can i reset the password or set it for the first time?06:42
n0dlbbl06:43
pppoe_dudeliable, isnt nice for prioritizing?06:43
linkd_texas: run: sudo passwd root06:43
pppoe_dudei wanna set say the limit for xine to use a maximum of 30% of total cpu06:43
gee_cee0GRUB Loading stage1.5... and crashes06:43
linkd_texas: there is an article somewhere on the ubuntu wiki about why root is disabled and how to set/unset the password. but i have no mouse atm so i cant really go looking.. or at least not pasting my results06:44
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moribuscrimson: the station is a dlink airplus *extreme* (emphasis mine) which claims to have a 2.37 version firmware. My card is in managed mode. Do I meet specs? Seems so to me...06:44
cafuegopppoe_dude: see 'ma ulimit'06:44
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castsurely sudo passwd would do the deed?06:44
castor sudo bash instead of su perhaps06:45
_texasthanks link06:45
moribuscafuego:No manual entry for ulimit on breezy...06:45
pppoe_dudemoribus, cafuego yes06:46
castmoribus: its a bash built in, use help ulimit06:46
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TreeStumphi06:46
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moribuscast: :-)06:47
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TreeStumpy cant i get ubuntu to recognise my RAID array?06:47
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TreeStump??06:49
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cafuegoTreeStump: Using some win-raid highpoint or promise thing?06:49
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cafuegopppoe_dude: Then you need to find other ulimit docs ;-)06:49
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TreeStumpi have a promise SATA RAID stripe and it is partititoned06:49
cafuegoyeah, that's WinRaid. Linux doesn't support that without proprietaryd rivers.06:50
TreeStump200gb for WinXP and i have 20gb set for Ubuntu but it wont recognize it...06:50
Lokadinsay i deleted iptables but my gtk-gnutella still complains that it's being firewalled06:50
TreeStumpok06:50
TreeStumpanyways i can get around it ?06:50
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castcafuego: so is that the raid equiv of a winmodem? [i dont know anything about raid since im poor] 06:51
cafuegoTreeStump: is there already data on the array?06:51
Dr_WillisLokadin,  you aint behind any router?06:51
TreeStumpyeah there is06:51
cafuegocast: yeah. must be avoided.06:51
moribuscrimsun: how do I check the firmware version on my card06:51
moribus?06:51
LokadinDr_Willis: direct connection to dsl modem06:51
TreeStumpcan be reformatted, but i prefer not to06:51
cafuegoTreeStump: Then you'll need to find a driver from the promise website that matches up with an Ubuntu kernel.06:52
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_texasok dumb question, how do i change directories in Terminal06:52
TreeStumpive looked for Drivers for my RAID for linux but not succeeded so far06:52
cafuegocast: in-kernel software raid (via the md driver) is by far better, faster, more reliable.06:52
crimsunmoribus: did you look in dmesg output?06:52
Lokadinso how does ubuntu filter my ports with no firewall? :'(06:52
castLokadin: nmap localhost and see if it really does06:52
Lokadinkk06:52
cafuegolocalhost is 127.0.0.106:53
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cafuegonmapping that is pointless.06:53
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Dr_Willischeck 'iptables -l' also  (I thjink)06:53
cafuegoiptables -L06:53
LokadinDr_Willis: did, there is no iptables06:53
_texastrying to install Nvidia drivers and dunno how to get the the desktop folder in Terminal06:53
germancito How can I run an application in gnome without checking the "run in terminal" box in the applications menu?06:53
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Lokadini'll nmap my inet address06:54
castOHHH06:54
sethkgermancito, start a terminal, and type the name of the program06:54
moribuscrimsun: only info there is mac addr, "Atmel at76c50x wireless V 0.96" and "SMC 2632W-V2 ..."06:54
castmy bad @ cafuego / Lokadin06:54
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_texastrying to install Nvidia drivers and dunno how to get the the desktop folder in Terminal06:54
castthought he was running a gtk app that connected from/to localhost....*stopped reading at gtk-*06:54
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blunted!fstab06:55
Lokadinit looks like ubuntu is filtering because i can't see anything other then my sshd open06:55
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.06:55
Dr_Willis_tester_,  its the Desktop folder in you home dir. :P06:55
cafuegoLokadin: What do you think NEEDS to be open then?06:55
Lokadincafuego: my gtk-gnutella 6347 smtp and all the other services i'm running06:55
germancitosethk, I've done that, but what I want is just to run tha program from the applications menu, without any terminal06:56
Lokadini scanned my ip from my own computer so there is no way the dsl provider is doinng so06:56
Lokadinas in filtering06:56
_texashow do you change to a certain Directory like /home/user/Desktop06:56
cafuegoLokadin: smtp only listen on lo by default.06:56
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Lokadincafuego: well how about gtk-gnutella?06:57
_texasin Konsole06:57
cafuegoLokadin: if the other apps are listening, 'netstat -nap' should pick 'em up. if not, they're just not listening.06:57
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Dr_Willis_texas,  it may be time to go read a basic bash 101 tutorial. 'cd /whever/whatever'06:57
Agamotto_texas:  cd /(name of dir)06:57
Madpilot!tell _texas about cli06:57
Lokadincafuego: yea it's just gtk-gnutella and sshd that are listening on my ip but i mean that should be enough06:57
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Dr_Willis_texas,  what are you trying to do/install anyway?06:58
_texasthanks guys, sorry im a noob06:58
cafuegoLokadin: ... coz byd efault Linux doesn't filter or firewall *anything*06:58
_texasNvidia driver doc06:58
Dr_Willis_texas,  you HAVE read the ubuntu binary driver wiki? its like a 3 line cut/paste job.06:58
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Lokadincafuego: well why can't i see gtk-gnutella ?:(06:59
Mabus06How do you make a shortcut to a folder?06:59
cafuegoLokadin: if you don't see it, it's not listening for connections.06:59
Lokadincafuego: yes it is, because netstat says it is, and gtk-gnutella says that it's being blocked by a firewall06:59
Lokadinonly can't see it in nmap06:59
moribusMabus: what do you mean shortcut?07:00
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cafuegoLokadin: gtk-gnutela is possibly retarded then.07:00
jtprattwhat's the best utility to or way to ssh to server on the Internet?07:00
cafuegojtpratt: How about 'ssh' ?07:01
Dr_Willisjtpratt,  you mean the 'ssh' client?07:01
Lokadincafuego: that's just abusive ad homeniem07:01
Lokadinomg07:01
Lokadinoi07:01
cafuegoLokadin: Well, ignore me then.07:01
moribusjtpratt: from the command line, ssh. from the desktop: places->connect to server07:01
Dr_Willisjtpratt,  then for windows theres. 'puty' and 'winscp'07:01
jtprattwell, wanted an xwindows client for ssh telnet to my web server at a shared how07:01
Fujitsuputty, you mean>07:01
jtprattusually use putty on windows box07:01
jtprattwhat do I use on ubuntu?07:01
Fujitsussh in a terminal.07:02
SyntuxWhy I cannot remove firefox without removing ubuntu-desktop, beagle, galeon ?07:02
cafuegojtpratt: Applications -> Accessories -> Termina. type 'ssh user@remotehost'07:02
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FujitsuAhah. I believe the question is why would you want to remove firefox?07:02
MadpilotSyntux: because lots of things use the FF rendering engine07:02
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AgamottoFujitsu: personal taste07:02
Dr_Willisand its the best browser out. :P07:02
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SyntuxMadpilot,  actually I messed up some of main configuraiton of firefox, so I want to reinstall it, and ERASE previous configurations07:03
FujitsuAhh07:03
FujitsuHrm.07:03
SyntuxMadpilot, any workground?07:03
FujitsuDelete the profile, I guess.07:03
kestasrm -rf ~/.mozilla07:03
MadpilotSyntux: delete your /.firefox or whatever the profile is07:03
FujitsuThat would do it, yes07:03
jtprattssh in terminal works perfect, thanks!07:03
Fujitsu.mozilla or .firefox. I never can remember.07:03
Syntuxkestas,  Fujitsu , Madpilot Actually I messed up /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res07:04
FujitsuAhh07:04
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FujitsuThat could be more of a problem.07:04
Syntuxnothing within the profile folder07:04
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SyntuxFujitsu, not real messing up thougt, just installed some form enhancer widgets, and now I don't want it07:04
kestasId look up some files on apt-get07:04
kestasthere should be some reinstallation or reconfiguration mechanism07:04
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moribussyntux: use synaptic, select reinstall package, see if it helps you07:05
kestasnever had to reinstall anything myself so I wouldnt know07:05
moribusI wouldn't delete .mozilla07:05
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Syntuxmoribus, it doesn't help :(07:05
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FujitsuOr you could forcibly remove it, then reinstall it immediately afterwards, if Synaptic doesn't do it.07:05
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kvanttinow that was strange07:05
jhealeyhello all07:06
FujitsuNot really advisable, but it should work.07:06
kestasthis is your own fault though :P shouldnt have been messing around outside of your home folder unless you know exactly what youre doing or things get screwed up07:06
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nekostarthis kinda really sux07:06
jhealeywhat sux?07:06
kestasvacuum cleaners suck07:06
kestasperhaps he was talking about vacuum cleaners?07:07
moribussyntux: try mv .mozilla .mozilla-backup. see if it works then07:07
jhealeymaybe07:07
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jhealeyor just new to irc and bewildered, with nothing sensible to say07:07
jtprattanyone know where I can find a good tutorial on the filesystem and where to find things?07:07
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moribusman find07:08
jtprattbesides man pages07:08
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moribusjt: man find is the best think one could know on a *nix command line07:08
kestasjtpratt, see the linux doc project07:08
moribusseriously07:08
Dr_Willisinfo find07:08
kestasit should have a doc on the linux filesys layout07:08
Dr_Willis:)07:08
jhealeyis that ldp.org?07:09
kestas(but it does change from dist to dist)07:09
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kestasI think tldp.org, but Id google it07:09
jtprattfor example, I know I have tons of documentation and ebooks and tutorials installed, and have no idea where they are07:09
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jtprattI don't know where most binaries are installed07:09
kestasoh well for that use find or locate07:09
jtprattor where icons go07:09
jtprattetc...07:09
nekostaris anyone up who keeps logs?07:10
kestasif you want to know where things go see tldp, if you want to know where something is use a search tool07:10
jhealeyconfirmed, it is www.tldp.org07:10
nekostaror is this chan logged?07:10
towsheba I cannot download repository index with the latest fluxbox07:10
towshebaany sugestions?07:10
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nekostari need something i said under this nick or starscalling a few weeks ago07:10
moribusjtpratt: google linux standards base07:10
towshebaI am in gnome at the moment07:10
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nekostar!_!07:10
ubotunekostar: Do they come in packets of five?07:10
Syntuxmoribus, do you think keeping the current firefox, but  installing a standalone one to /opt would hurt?07:10
f3aris Synaptic Package Manager specific to Ubuntu?07:10
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towshebaum...07:10
nekostarno its in debian too f3ar07:10
jtprattthx.07:11
f3aroh cool nekostar07:11
towshebaAny one?07:11
kvanttibye all..see you later07:11
f3arlate07:11
moribussyntux: how would you install to /opt?07:11
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f3aris there a way to get a os x like dock instead of the application/places/system bar?07:12
vaioubuntuif i dont have the gcc command available to me. or the ./configure or make, what do i need to do?07:12
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mark_looking for confirmatin of a bug in Hoary: try "vmstat 2 | awk ' {print}' "07:12
kestasvaioubuntu, to do what?07:12
vaioubuntumy aim is to use a program called checkinstall to make sourcecode into ubuntu packages07:13
Syntuxmoribus,  d/l from mozilla, tar and link to desktop07:13
kestasvaioubuntu, well install gcc, make, autoconf, whatever else you need07:13
vaioubuntuthis is the first time ive used linux.  i have no idea of what and where with linux.  can i get gcc, make, etc with the add application program?07:14
cafuegomark_: what's that supposed to do?07:15
mark_it should just echo the vmstat output every second07:15
Madpilotvaioubuntu: there's thousands of packages in the Ubuntu repos, you can probably get 99% of what you want w/o compiling a thing. What apps are you looking for?07:15
cafuegomark_: 'vmstat 2' does that07:15
cafuegoWhy would you pipe it into awk?07:15
moribussyntux: should be fine. however, I am fan of using intended software to get tasks done. When I select "remove" for firefox, I don't get all those dependancies. Is somthing else borked? How did you break firefox in the first place??07:16
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mark_I was trying to strip out columns , look for changes, etc07:16
vaioubuntui need to compile programs to make my touchpad work better.  a hack to get a widescreen resolution.  a couple custom buttons found on the laptop.  and, and this isnt important, the motion eye camera07:16
cafuegomark_: I don't think awk gets that input until vmstat flushes the buffer; so not until vmstat exists.07:17
vaioubuntumost important are the widescreen, touchpad, and ive had trouble with the wireless card not playing nice with dhcp07:17
cafuegoexits even07:17
mark_but simplified the action to just {print} and found that I wasn't07:17
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mark_I tried the same on a Knoppix installed system and it worked07:17
nekostareh07:17
nekostarso yeha07:17
Agamottovaioubuntu:  the resolutions should be as easy as changing the values in your xorg.conf file07:17
nekostaris this chan logged somewhere??07:17
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Syntuxmoribus,  Now it's solved, I just had to remove some CSS files from that directory.07:18
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vaioubuntuthere is an entry that i just type differently?07:18
vaioubuntuand how do you address someone specific on the irc channel?  i see what you type to me in red and my name in front07:18
vaioubuntuor are you just doing that07:18
agilmanare there any applications to burn CDs in ubuntu?07:18
agilmanlike k3b for KDE... ?07:19
tony_how do I install packages from .deb files that I have downloaded?07:19
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nekostarthat is an action with /me stuffthere07:19
nekostarthe other is just ppl saying your name07:19
Agamottovaioubuntu:  You just type their nick: then whatever afterwards07:19
casttony_: one would look at man dpkg07:19
nekostaralso there is :07:19
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tony_k07:19
Agamottotony_:  dpkg -i packagename.deb07:19
Agamottoagilman:  Almost as many as the number of your appendages07:20
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vaioubuntuagamotto can you be more specific about the xorg.conf change?07:20
agilmanif I do 'apt-get install kde' will that work OK?07:21
agilmanor do I have to do something extra?07:21
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moribusagilman: have you considered kubuntu?07:21
agilmanmoribus, I neeed KDE now...07:22
agilmanI dont have time to download another CD07:22
cafuegoagilman: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'07:22
tony_and is there a way to get dpkg to try to find all the needed dependancies for me as well?07:22
agilmanthanks buddy07:22
cafuegoagilman: That'll fetch the whole thing.07:22
cafuegoAnd make your desktop ugly and slow ;-)07:22
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nekostararg07:22
Lockei'm having a problem with my sound07:23
agilmanI use xfce personally07:23
nekostarwhat was that chaps name07:23
agilmanbut I need some KDE apps07:23
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cafuegoagilman: Just apt-get install those apps, whatever they need will be pulled in too.07:23
moribussudo apt-get -s <app>07:23
moribuswoops07:23
Lockewhenever i have 2 things making sound (a song and gAIM) the music skips, so every time i get an IM it messes up my song07:23
moribusinstall <app>07:24
agilmanawesome07:24
moribus-s will "simulate"07:24
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Lockeanyone have any ideas?07:24
boa-chanwhen i try to play something in xmms, it says it cant open audio07:24
boa-chanbut nothing else is using it07:24
moribusagilman: I think you'll find that through dependancies, you'll have to install most of KDE anyway.07:24
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agilmanmoribus, yes, I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:25
Lockeyeah, that really helps... none07:25
moribusagilman: well, kubuntu-desktop is guranteed install the whole shebang.07:25
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Lockedoes anyone have ANY idea's?07:26
navaroneare your speakers turned on?07:26
Lockeobviously... if my song is skipping and i know it07:26
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navaroneWell you never said that07:27
moribusagilman: for fun, you can see this : sudo apt-get -s install k3b, which installs kde/qt core, plus the program07:27
SilentOutcasthello07:27
agilmanmoribus, whats qt ?07:27
moribusthe programming library that kde depends on07:27
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AgamottoLocke:  Using Gnome?07:28
SilentOutcastcan anyone tell me if ubuntu supports Lucent winmodems07:28
moribusor, a "special magic program that KDE needs" for the lay person ;-)07:28
Lockeagamotto: yes07:29
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navaroneAnyone using rhythmbox? I am wondering if you can make new folders in the sidepane and drag and drop titles from the library to sort them? Is that a feature?07:30
AgamottoLocke:  System -> Prefs -> Sound - turn off the enable sound server startup button07:30
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AgamottoSilentOutcast:  It isn't likely.  Search google for linmodems, and check there07:31
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LockeAgamotto: and now i have no sound...07:32
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tony_also, on xmms 0% volume = silence, but everything else = full volume.  Anybody have that happen to them?07:32
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AgamottoLocke:  Restart X, then things should be fine07:32
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towsheba I cannot download repository index with the latest fluxbox07:34
towshebaI am in gnome at the moment07:34
towshebacan some one please help me07:34
agilmanhmm, your /etc/apt/sources.list is messed up?07:34
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agilmantowsheba, want my sources.list?07:34
towshebahow would i know?07:35
towshebaplease07:35
Lockeagamotto: that still didn't do anything07:35
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towshebawww.freeuploader.com << if you think it will upload it here07:35
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towshebaLocke: what do you think I should do?07:35
boa-chancan somebody help me with this error07:35
boa-chanhttp://pastebin.com/44061207:35
Locketowsheba: whats your problem?07:36
AgamottoLocke:  Now that is odd.  Solves the problem for me on every computer I have tried it on.  I am currently listening to shoutcast via XMMS and still getting my background pings, bongs, etc...07:36
agilmantowsheba, http://67.170.178.242/sources.list07:36
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towshebathnx07:36
agilmansave that list07:36
Lockeagamotto i still GET them, it's just that when they play, my song starts skipping07:36
agilmanyou know where to put it, right?07:36
towshebano LOL07:36
agilmanoh boy :)07:37
AgamottoLocke:  I wonder if you might have a short in the sound card....07:37
agilmantowsheba, save that file in /home/<your user name>07:37
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Lockei JUST bought it07:37
Lockemy onboard card wouldn't work07:37
agilmantowsheba, then do 'sudo -i'07:38
towshebathat link is broke :(07:38
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agilmanhttp://67.170.178.242/sources.list07:38
agilmanhmm07:38
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AgamottoLocke:  Hmmmm, now that is odd07:39
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Lockei doubt it's the fact that my computer is a piece of crap... lol07:39
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Lockecuz i can run programs and my songs don't skip, but when the program makes a sound it starts to jump in the song07:39
navaroneLock did you disable onboard sound? That may (or not) be a problem07:39
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Locke... how can i do that? (either way it's saving system recourses, so i might as well)07:40
Myrttihow do I check what locales are installed to my system?07:40
MyrttiI've forgotten how07:40
AgamottoLocke:  Your system BIOS07:41
Lockemeh, i have a crappy compack with 0 BIOS controls07:41
Lockei can't even change my boot priority07:41
towshebaagilman: that link does not work07:41
navaroneLocke> you either do it thru bios or thru jumpers on the motherboard. Check your mb manual if you have one or the website for  accurate info07:41
AgamottoLocke:  try holding down F2 during boot07:41
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Lockei know how to get into bios07:42
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Lockeit just won't let me disable it07:42
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AgamottoLocke:  eh?  Odd, but possible07:42
Lockelike i said07:42
agilmantowsheba, one sec, let me load it up to another server07:42
Lockethis thing is a compaq07:42
Lockeit's made to be (almost) idiotproof07:42
tony_ on xmms 0% volume = silence, but everything else = full volume.  Anybody have that happen to them?07:42
towshebathnx agilman07:42
Lockeso if you start snooping around and don't know what your doing, you can't cause harm07:42
AgamottoLocke:  Nah, then it would be a Mac07:42
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navaroneLocke> do you have any manuals for hardware (motherboard)?07:43
agilmantowsheba, http://www.angelfire.com/empire/wargame/sources.list07:43
Lockeno, i saw this thing at a yard sale and thought "hmmmm, this would be perfect for Linux)07:43
navaroneWhat processor?07:43
Locke450 k6-207:43
AgamottoFairly decent07:43
agilmantowsheba, save that file to /home/<your user name>07:44
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towshebaLOL07:44
towshebadur im a damb asshat07:44
towshebaI had wireless on07:44
towshebaand eth0 plugged in07:44
towshebaG-ZUS07:44
towshebaXD07:44
Lockei have a good idea how to disable my onboard sound card07:44
navaroneLocke are you able to get into machine to try motheerboard jumpers...once you get an idea where the jumpers are...?07:44
Lockestab it with a screw driver07:44
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Lockei could try, but i'm very lazy at the moment07:45
Lockei'll try it as a last resort07:45
Lockewhen every other possibility is exhausted07:45
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navaronemaybe the only way07:45
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Lockewhat about giving my priority of my sound card to my media player, is that possible?07:45
diemanheh, saved by aptitude again07:46
diemanaptitude install '~ilinux-image-.*|~ilinux-headers-.*|~ilinux-restricted-modules-.*'07:46
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diemanmmmm07:46
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pinkisntwellwhy everything on my desktop looks so big? i have 1024*768 as resolution and i can't go any higher even though I have the nvidia driver installed07:46
Lockechange the size of the files on your desktop... lol07:47
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navaroneLocke...I don't know about your situation but I turned off the sound preview feature...where you hear a portion of song when mouse is on file...<shrug>07:47
jeff303anyone here use Eclipse IDE w/Java on Breezy?07:47
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pinkisntwellwhy can't I go any higher? this is not a joke07:48
intelikeylag lag lag   i'm lagging.....  8 seconds of lag.... lag lag lag07:48
navaronepinkisnt>I think the gnome desktop is just a bit...chunkier than the other desktop os'es07:48
Myrttihave you tweaked your xorg.conf yet07:48
Lockewhy did they name the device manager HAL... thats just asking for trouble...07:48
pinkisntwellno I haven't07:48
Lockei'm sorry dave... i'm afraid i can't allow you to enable that device...07:49
HrdwrBoBLocke: it's called that in other OSes too07:49
Agamottointelikey:  At least you aren't on Mars, the lag would be around 3 minutes07:49
AgamottoLocke:  Inside joke in the computer industry07:49
intelikeyhal=hardware aplaction layer07:49
HrdwrBoBabstraction07:49
Lockei know what it stands for07:49
intelikeyhehhe yeah Agamotto :)07:49
Lockei'm just saying07:49
Lockecome up with a better acronym07:50
intelikeyHrdwrBoB yes   my typing is like my connection it is lagging07:50
Lockei just checked my hardware manager, when i install a new sound card my old sound card is automatically turned off, so thats not the problem...07:51
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AgamottoLocke:  Why?  You don't like obfuscatory descriptive practices in relation to written communications?07:52
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slashx1896hey all, is ubuntu like a desktopbased version of debian or something?07:52
LockeAgamotto: ummm... no?07:52
pinkisntwellhow can I get a resoltution higher than 1024*76807:52
pinkisntwell?07:52
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Agamottoslashx1896:  bingo07:52
Lockeget a better graphics card07:52
towshebaagilman: I restarted the system07:53
towshebabecause I could only go to certain pages on the web07:53
towshebaI think thats the proble07:53
towshebaI tried going to ubuntulinux.org and it would not take me07:53
slashx1896kk cool i have debian but its to confusing for me07:53
towshebabut it would to pastebin07:53
Lockepinkisn'twell: go to system>preferences>Screen Resolution07:53
slashx1896wat u know ubuntu just finsihed burning to a cd07:53
pinkisntwellLocke: what are you talking about? I've got a 5200, should I get a super 3d card to run my desktop for god's sake?07:53
Lockepinkisntwell: it was a joke, calm down07:54
Lockepinkisntwell: read above, i just told you how to get higher resolution07:54
pinkisntwellok, i went there and it only goes as high as 102407:54
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Agamottopinkisntwell:  That may be the limit for your card/monitor setup07:55
Lockepinkisntwell: what type of monitor do you have?07:55
LockeAgamotto: i doubt it's his card, because it's not EXTREMELY bad07:55
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mrfed87i'm looking to change my nick07:55
mrfed87oh, no, never mind.07:55
SilentOutcastcan anyone tell me if there is any customs problems or fees for ordering a free cd in NEW YORK State in the USA07:55
mrfed87I got one free07:56
mrfed87no fees07:56
Lockesilentoutcast: i don't see why there would be, i ordered one in Florida07:56
mrfed87I am from upstate NY07:56
Lockeactually i ordered like 2007:56
SilentOutcastnice thanks07:56
SilentOutcastim ordering right now07:56
SilentOutcastcan't wait to try this out07:56
AgamottoLocke:  Greedy guts07:56
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LockeAgamotto: no, just need to spread the word my friend07:56
slashx1896hey,im installing ubuntu rite now, and i got a network autoconfig failed error07:57
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LockeAgamotto: everyone is too lazy to download Linux, and i'm too poor to buy CDs to burn it, so just get a bunch of free ones and give them out07:57
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AgamottoLocke:  Fair enough07:57
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slashx1896can anyone help me?07:58
Madpiloti just got an order of 60 Ubuntu CDs, I'm going to hand them out at work - I work at the local public library07:58
The_Isle_of_Markis there an nfs share browser in ubuntu?07:58
LockeAgamotto: i treat my CDs like gold, i'll still have MY copy for years07:58
AgamottoI save most of my bother by subscribing to Linux Format.07:58
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LockeLinux Format?07:58
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navaronethere was someone here earlier today claiming he was shipped 215...lol07:58
Agamottolinuxformat.couk07:58
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Agamottolinuxformat.co.uk, that should be07:58
navaroneAgamotto are you in uk?07:59
Lockeit might be possible... but i doubt it07:59
dduckoI have heard of more, so very very possible.07:59
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Agamottonavarone: Nah, I wish07:59
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infamuswhere is the best place to find themes for ubuntu?07:59
slashx1896u wish?07:59
Lockewhen running opera, i get a libjvm.so and a libawt.so error, any idea's?07:59
dduckognomelook.org ?08:00
Lockejust type in Linux Themes08:00
Lockein google08:00
AgamottoYes, I like the UK, despite the current value of the pound08:00
slashx1896ic08:00
Lockei'm quite content being in th eUS08:00
navaroneLocke> Lots of computer magazine have coverdisks. Before I settle on ubuntu i was gonna try the new Mandriva. The magazine was like 34 bucks though...<s> I've used PC Foramt and Linux Format...both excellent mags08:00
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infamusthere are a few, but when i try installing the themes in the theme manager i keep getting "file is invalid" errors from the .cfg files08:00
slashx1896can someone help me with installing ubuntu? (partition)08:00
AgamottoI find most brits to be well mannered in public compared to most(not all) Americans08:00
The_Isle_of_Markanyone know of an nfs browser for ubuntu?08:01
Lockenfs?08:01
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dduckoslashx1896, better luck just asking the question08:01
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LockeThe_Isle_Of_Mark: nfs?08:01
slashx1896i dontnow what parittion method i should do?08:01
AgamottoLocke:  Novell/Network File System08:01
Lockeah08:01
Lockeno idea, lol08:01
infamusslashxl896: what do you need help with?08:01
Agamottoslashx1896:  LVM, with one partition as /, and one as /home08:02
Lockei just use Opera cuz its 50 times faster than firefox on my system08:02
slashx1896LVM?08:02
slashx1896oo08:02
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The_Isle_of_Markubuntu has the places menu but it only sees samba shares, what gives?08:02
infamusslashxl896: well it all depends, do you have windows running on your PC already?08:02
towshebayay08:02
Lockebut i keep getting errors with Opera and i have to use terminal to start it >_<08:02
towshebanow downloading packages :D08:02
navaroneOpera has a lot of nice features...but the ones I used are avaialble as extensions08:02
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slashx1896infamus:i have windows and debian, and i want to replace debian with ubuntu08:02
towshebadamnit its still the fluxbox 0.9.1208:03
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Lockeyes... fluxbox doesn't update often...08:03
towsheba0.9.14 is the one I need08:03
towshebai have the deb08:03
towshebabut it gives me a error08:03
Lockejust apt-get it08:03
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towshebacould not download all repository indexes08:03
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infamusslashxl896: simple, if you have the ubuntu install disk burned, format the partition with debian on it and install ubuntu in that partition08:03
towshebahowso?08:04
navaroneI may not use xmms any more...now that I have figured how to import my mp3 into Library...d'oh>08:04
towshebaLocke:how so?08:04
slashx1896i have the ubuntu install disk running rite now08:04
towshebaapt-get *debhere*08:04
navaroneLibrary of rhthymbox that is08:04
Locketowsheba: go to terminal and type in sudo apt-get install fluxbox08:04
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towshebak08:04
slashx1896i have 2 choices, erease enitre disk (hda) or erease and use LVM08:04
towshebathe deb has to be in root correct?08:04
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Lockedon't even worry about the deb, you can install directly from terminal08:04
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dduckoIs you windows on a different Harddrive>08:05
Agamottoslashx1896:  erase, use LVM, and set two partitions, one for /, and one for /home08:05
navaroneslash do you have windows any where on disk...adn do you want  to keep it? If not use entire disk08:05
Lockethats the beauty of apt-get... all you have to know is the name...08:05
slashx1896i only have 1 hd08:05
kehttp://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?shots/ikaro_fluxbox2.jpg <-- What's that monitoring app out on the right?08:05
towshebagkrellm08:06
towshebaits called gkrellm08:06
towshebaI believe thats #208:06
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Locketowsheba: did it work?08:06
slashx1896agmotto: it already has one for /,should i make another for /home?08:06
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towshebaim trying it now08:06
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Agamottoslashx1896:  Yes, it makes backups and recovery much easier08:06
MasterObi-WanK_hello08:06
towshebapermission denied and unable to lock the list directory08:07
towsheba:(08:07
slashx1896how do i create a new one?08:07
Lockehave you enabled universal repositories?08:07
MasterObi-WanK_any knows how to fix the video and sound for the Intel 915gm chipset with an 12.1 inch lcd  on a Asus W5 laptop ?08:07
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towshebayes08:07
towshebaill try it again08:07
mark_how can I get ubuntu to print out status info every 2 seconds (as my knoppix box08:07
mark_ does?)... try: vmstat 2 | awk '$1 ~ /[0-9] +/{if ($12>max) {max=$12};print "#"NR"-", $12, max} ; {print}'08:07
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slashx1896Agmotto: how do i create another one for /home?08:08
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Hobbseeslashx1896: you'd have to either use the install cd, and create another one there, or use gparted, and then mount the new partition as /home in /etc/fstab08:08
AgamottoYou tell it to create a partition, give the size you want, select /home as the mount point08:09
mark_or simply:  vmstat 2 | awk ' {print}'08:09
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Lockeis there any way to change the system name?08:09
vladuz976is there something like mathmathica for linux?08:09
towshebaw00t08:09
towshebaits going locke :D08:09
slashx1896im on the partition disks, screen of the ubuntu installer, where it says This isanoverview of your currenttly configured... blahblahblah08:09
sherwinhello guys!i have already install samba, when i try to access my ubuntu machine, i can't see the filders from my win machine. how do i share ubuntu folders to winbox?08:09
towshebaif I was a girl I would hug you08:09
MasterObi-WanK_how can I get the lastest Xorg , fetching it from a repository ?08:09
towshebabut im not so i wont08:09
towshebabut thnx08:09
towshebaoh damnit08:09
Locketowsheba: lol, no problem, i've had the same problem08:10
towshebait installed 0.9.1208:10
Locketowsheba: ?08:10
Lockelol08:10
towshebai need .1408:10
towshebai have the deb for 1408:10
towshebaso ima give that ago again08:10
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Hobbseeslashx1896: hit manual partition, and go from there08:10
Hobbseeslashx1896: create a new partition, (you might have to resize another one), and mount it as /home - it's one of the options08:11
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navaroneHobb> does he resize his current / partition and use the new space for home?08:11
Siorai*drops jaw* wow08:11
slashx1896not an option, optinons are, configure software raid, confuigure logical voulme manager, guided paritiong and help on partitiong08:11
Locketowsheba: well, what is the big difference between .12 and .14?08:11
SioraiI had no idea the ubuntu project was so gigantic08:11
towsheba.14 actually works08:11
towsheba.1208:11
towshebathe menus dont show in ubuntu08:11
towshebayou get xterm08:11
towshebarestart08:11
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towshebaand exit08:11
towshebai had 14 before08:12
towshebabut for somereason08:12
towshebaits not working now08:12
Locketowsheba: well, give me the deb for it and i'll figure out a way08:12
intelikeySiorai yeah it is nearly as big as debian   :)08:12
towshebak then08:12
towshebaone second08:12
intelikey!enter08:12
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!08:12
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Madpilotintelikey: beat me to it :P08:12
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mark_cafuego: you still here?08:13
SioraiIntelikey I'm on FC4 right now, not very happy with it. Driving me nuts, I don't even have sound atm.08:13
Lockeintelikey: who are you writing that to?08:13
towsheba_one second locke08:13
Subsonixhow is it possible to retain the channel topic even is no one is in there any more?08:13
Subsonixhere on freenode08:13
AgamottoFedora can be very annoying.  If I wanted things hidden from me, I would own a Mac08:13
slashx1896Hobbsdee, i dont have a create new partition option08:13
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intelikeySubsonix chanserv08:14
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slashx1896Hobbsee*08:14
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SioraiSo farr thoguh, I love the community that you guys have here, a buddy of mine, KVidell, told me about the Ubuntu project, looks awesome, can hardly wait to try it. hehe08:14
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AgamottoSioari:  Namaste08:14
onkarshindeSiorai: What other distros have you tried before?08:15
intelikeysubsonix /msg chanserv help08:15
towsheba_http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73608.deb << here you are locke08:15
MadpilotLocke: ubotu is our resident bot08:15
Madpilot!tell Locke about ubotu08:15
Lockei know what ubotu is08:15
navaroneSiorai> take a look a t this article...a guy explains his installation of ubuntu on his worklplace desktop and his experiences  http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5557.html    <-- Maybe interesting08:15
SioraiAgamotto Namaste to you as well : )08:15
Lockemadpilot: i was wondering who you were telling !enter TO08:15
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towsheba_http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73608.deb << here you are locke08:15
MadpilotLocke: towsheba08:15
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towshebayes08:16
SioraiAgamotto,  I'm very surprized someone in here knows that term, :)08:16
AgamottoSiorai:  You have just captured much of the thought behind Ubuntu08:16
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towshebaMadpilot?08:16
MasterObi-WanK_how can I get the lastest Xorg file ?08:16
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onkarshindeSiorai: Are you Indian?08:16
kvidellno one talk to Siorai, he's a _loser_ ;-P08:16
Hobbseeslashx1896: do you have any free space?08:16
Sioraionkarshinde,  I've tried FC4, a teeny bit of SUSE, and Knoppix, of the three, Knoppix was my choice08:16
Locketowsheba: alright, give me a minute08:16
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pinkisntwell isnt there some way to make things smaller on gnome?08:17
Subsonixintelikey: what do you mean exactly? the guard option?08:17
The_Isle_of_Markfedora = wannabe debian08:17
Locketowsheba: so do you know anything about gkrellm or whatever it is?08:17
towsheba_thnk you very much08:17
slashx1896hobbsee, no and its installing the basesystem rite now08:17
Hobbseeah ok08:17
towshebai dont know what I would do without my flux08:17
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Sioraionkarshinde,  no, I learned it from an old aol chatroom called Spiritual Insights back in like, 99-00 or something08:17
The_Isle_of_Mark!win32codecs08:17
ubotusee !w32codecs08:17
kvidell<3 Siorai.08:17
towshebahas any one installed the aol server4?08:17
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The_Isle_of_Mark!w32codecs08:18
intelikeySubsonix you asked how a topic could be kept without anyone in a channel,  the answer it 'chanserv'08:18
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/08:18
AgamottoLocke:  It is a system monitor applet, has all sorts of plug ins and whistles08:18
Subsonixintelikey: i have registered the channel with chanserv, doesn't help08:18
Subsonixintelikey: so you need to be more specific08:18
LockeAgamotto: well... where does it save to, cuz i just installed it and i hate opening things with terminal08:18
intelikey /msg chanserv help topic08:18
towshebayou can go to accesories then system and gkrellm is in there08:18
towshebaso terminal is not needed08:19
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Subsonixintelikey: No help available on topic08:19
AgamottoNot sure.  It may not show up in our lists until your next boot of x08:19
Lockegeuss i have to restart X for it to show up08:19
Agamottoopen a termina for now and type gkrellm08:19
Agamottoshould just pop up somewhere on the screen08:20
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Lockei know08:20
drbyteheh, any motu packagers here?08:20
Lockei did that, i just hate having to open things with terminal, cuz then i have to have 2 tabs open08:20
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SioraiI'm still amazed that someone has the "Siorai" name on the forums, I swear, I own this name on like half the forums on the internet, battle.net, aim, even gmail08:20
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AgamottoI have eight open right now08:20
taliosdrbyte, try #ubuntu-motu08:21
intelikeySubsonix i'm not familear with freenodes chanserv but the one on chatjunkies you 'set' the topic and have chanserv 'watch' the channel for you.   the online help should tell you how. Subsonix08:21
varsendaggerok so i'm in the wiki doing the gpg key thing and the sent me a huge garble of code, how do i decode it?08:21
AgamottoSiorai:  I can understand that.  I have been using Agamotto for over... 18 years now08:21
os2macanyone  having trouble logging into wiki?08:21
intelikeybrb08:21
SioraiI came up with this one, because Siorai, is greek, it means Eternal08:21
Sioraiaim = eternlloveoflife08:22
nekostari see the w32deb link is dead for breezy08:22
varsendaggeros2mac, kinda, i'm having trouble doing the gpg thing08:22
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Locketowsheba: what distro did you have this version of fluxbox on?08:22
os2macI like mine just because of the dog turning the head sideways look I imagine people get when they see it the first time.08:22
towsheba_the latest ubuntu08:22
Locketowsheba: hmmm...08:23
towsheba_i installed it08:23
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towsheba_and in the menu i accidently hit metacity08:23
towsheba_i hated meta08:24
towsheba_so i restarted08:24
Subsonixhave you read the thing about Gnubuntu on www.ubuntux.org?08:24
towsheba_and the login and everything was in console mode08:24
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jirwinhello08:24
towsheba_i could not do anything to change it back08:24
Locketowsheba: how did you install it the first time?08:24
os2macvarsendagger: I am trying to login to wiki and it won't take my passwd08:24
towsheba_so i just reinstalled ubuntu08:24
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jirwinis there anyway to set my eth0 to take priority over my wireless ath008:24
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towsheba_just added it to the synptec08:24
varsendaggerTo confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.   <--- how the heck do i decrypt the message?08:24
towsheba_synaptic08:24
jonathonhello08:25
Locketowsheba: have you tried doing that again?08:25
varsendaggeros2mac, have you loged in before?08:25
towsheba_Yes08:25
towsheba_but the difference now08:25
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towsheba_is theres no ubuntu logo next to it08:25
blue-frogjirwin, /etc/network/interfaces08:25
towsheba_and its .1208:25
towsheba_not .1408:25
towshebagets on my nurves08:25
jonathonive never had to do my own kernel before but im running i386 kernel and i want to get a better kernel can i get it from the apt-get?08:26
Locketowsheba: hmmmm... i don'08:26
towsheba.12 does not work properly with ubuntu08:26
Locket know, i'm having a problem getting it08:26
Agamottojonathon:  What is your kit?08:26
jonathonagamotto: what do you mean by my kit08:26
jirwinblue-frog, what am I looking for in there08:26
os2macvarsendagger:no.... but I just created my account on launchpad as it instructs08:27
jirwinprimary network interface?08:27
Agamottojonathon: processor, mobo, etc08:27
towshebaill take a screenshot the next time i get a error08:27
jonathon5.04 hoary?08:27
jonathonok08:27
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not_benh1howdy all08:27
SioraiI love how winders savvy I am and yet, nearly everything in this room flies right over my head, bloody interesting though...08:27
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mark_os2mac: ya, I'm not able to get a response from the wiki08:27
varsendaggeri'm at the same point08:27
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nowayIs it possible to mount an iso file so that it boots when I restart my computer, just like if I had a cd?08:27
naliothSiorai: it wont take long before this stuff is hitting you in the face08:27
jonathonmy computer is a laptop its a 3.2ghz thats about all i really know08:27
os2macsiorai.... don't feel bad I am a Unix admin and I don't know what they are talking about half the time.08:28
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varsendaggernalioth, To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.   <--- how the heck do i decrypt the message?08:28
AgamottoSiorai:  You will learn in time... I am still quite new at many things, but after 20 years of using computers, I can translate most things into workable layterms08:28
Siorainalioth: I'm sure.. hah, but I love it all, every last bit08:28
blue-frogjirwin, in that file change the order of ath0 and eth0 should do what you want to obtain08:28
navaroneSiorai> http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5557.html  <-- try this link to read about one guy's experience installing ubuntu at work08:28
LockeAgamotto: you wouldn't have any idea's would you?08:28
jonathoni started using linux yesterday for the first time ever08:28
Agamottojonathon:  Most likely a Pentium 4 or M?08:28
Sioraios2mac,  thought linux arch. was simliar to Unix?08:28
jonathonit took me 9hours to successfully compile mplayer with all the stuff that goes with it08:29
os2macno mind you that I must temper my statement by saying that I am a Trusted Solaris sysadmin so it's not like anything you will ever see on the street.... it's only used by governments and banks.08:29
navaroneSiorai> linux works on macs too08:29
AgamottoLocke:  Sorry, what was the question again?08:29
jonathonits a p408:29
mark_ ... and http://launchpad.net/ seems down too08:29
Siorainavarone,  PPC right?08:29
AgamottoAhhh, you want the 686 kernel from synaptic then08:29
Sioraithat's IBM's proc, correct?08:29
LockeAgamotto: he's having trouble installing fluxbox 0.9.14, we've tried installling through aptitude, but thats not the latest version08:29
jonathonagamotto: its a 3,2ghz p4 with 512mb ram that is shared with the 9100 mob radeon08:29
navaroneI guess so Siorai...lol08:29
os2macSiorai and similar is the operational word.... there are a bunch of things you can do in Linux that you can't do on a traditional Unix distro... even down to the command level.08:30
AgamottoLocke:  Hmmm, search freshmeat for .0.9.14 with deb?08:30
os2macthere are command switches for just about everything that only exist in Linux.08:30
jonathonagamotto: the kernel that is currently installed is the i386, i must assume it will run faster if i get the p4 kernel?08:30
towshebai hope it works08:30
LockeAgamotto: he has the deb, but i don't know how to isntall stuff very well...08:30
Agamottojonathon:  Some things will, most smaller tasks won't notice much08:30
AgamottoLocke:  ahh, so the incantation of dpkg  -i has been done?08:31
jonathonagamotto: so my next question is the images that are on apt-get for i686 kernels08:31
navaronejohnathon...I have upgraded from default i386 to 686 and finally k7 for my amd08:31
varsendaggerjonathon, you should apt-cache search mplayer and and apt-get it08:31
LockeAgamotto: that was giberish to me, lol08:31
Sioraios2mac,  well, I don't really know either one, so, I'm still kinda learning the ropes, but I do a lot of command line junk in winders, so, i'm nto commandlinephobic08:31
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jonathonvarsendagger: its too later its already compiled08:31
os2macLocke: did you sacrifice your goat? :)08:31
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varsendaggerwith gui?08:32
jonathonyes with everything08:32
AgamottoLocke:  In a terminal, go to the dir that the file was downloaded to, and type dpkg -i nameoffile.deb08:32
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varsendaggerimpressive, that is three days you'll never get back08:32
jonathoni evern got the win32 codecs to run too ;P08:32
AgamottoLocke:  Litterally, DePacKaGe -i(nstall) program.deb08:32
jonathonit wasnt 3 days.. there is some pretty intellegent people i had helping me in the mplayer irc08:33
jonathonit was like 9 hours08:33
varsendaggeri gave up twice it took 30 seconds to apt-get it08:33
SioraiAgamotto does #ubuntu have a stats page?08:33
Agamottojonathon:  Yes, you were asking about the i686 packages?08:33
os2macSiorai: lemme say this about that... I take great amusement in the fact that MS started out by stripping all the networking features out of UNIX and making it a standalone OS (that's where DOS came from) and they have spent the last 20 or 30 years putting all that stuff right back in again to suppor t internet/networking....08:33
LockeAgamotto well it's working for me so far...08:33
varsendaggerwith gmplayer08:33
AgamottoSiorai: I have no idea08:33
Locketowsheba: get it working? cuz i just did08:33
jonathonagamotto: yes will i damage my machine if i get it? im pretty new to linux (yesterday installed)08:33
Agamottojonathon:  Nah, at worst, you will have a new entry in your bootloader that might flake out08:34
navaronevarsendagger> io did the same with stellarium...installed enuff new compiling software and still no dice...so fired up synaptic and voila08:34
windexi need help.  every time that I ./configure a package and then go to "make install" it says that "make" is an unknown command?  Sorry, I'm a linux newbie.08:34
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Sioraios2mac,  I've never been a fan of winders, since the first time I messed around with 3.1...08:34
jonathonyou should check out this program i found08:34
Locketowsheba: hello?08:34
jonathoncheckinsall08:34
Agamottowindex:  Proper steps are 1. configure 2. make 3. make install08:34
jonathoninstall08:34
navaronewindex> dl build-essentials package08:34
varsendaggeraplications like apt-get nad emerge are the way of the future08:34
syngiuncan I ask help questions here?  I searched the forums and I cant find my answer...08:35
jonathoni wanted to install gentoo08:35
os2macVarsendagger: guess I am not writing my LiveCD boot options wiki tonight then huh?08:35
Sioraios2mac,  the way I saw it, if an NES could translate code into picture on a screen instantly, why couldn't windows do it?08:35
jonathonbut i didnt work out so good08:35
windexthanks, i'll try that08:35
Seveasjonathon, apt-get install gentoo08:35
jonathonreally?08:35
varsendaggeros2mac, or my mplayer streams08:35
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Seveas!info gentoo08:35
jonathonbs?08:35
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ubotugentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 728 kB, Installed size: 2336 kB08:35
Seveasthere...08:35
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AgamottoGentoo is not for beginners08:36
Siorai!info stats08:36
navaroneAgamotto...I'm thinking Weird Science ...if you are from that era...lol08:36
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os2macSiorai:I must admit that the more recent versions are "getting there" I actually like XP Pro.... but the reason I am running Linux is because it's easier to translate commands at the end of a work day.08:36
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Siorainavarone !! Oingo Boingo = my favorite ban08:36
[Jonne] small question for anyone using dapper: is it 'safe' to do apt-get dist-upgrade now? I was waiting because i read about some problems with x08:36
Locketowsheba: helloooooooooo08:36
Agamottonavarone: Yep, I built three MSX computers back in those days08:36
jonathonyeah i didnt think that would be true08:36
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Seveasjonathon, it is08:37
varsendaggerSeveas, can you help me decode my gpg fingerprind deal for loging into wiki?08:37
navaroneSiorai> TherSpecials one of mine...hence the name from Guns of navarone08:37
jonathongenoo in apt is just a damn file manager08:37
Sioraios2mac,  I've had some pretty high success with XP Pro, I don't have a whole lot of complaints really,08:37
towshebaLocke: http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73609.jpg08:37
Seveasvarsendagger, you don't need gpg to login08:37
blue-frog[Jonne] , safe if you want to do testing and filing bugs. not if you want to work with your ubuntu..08:37
Locketowsheba: working?08:37
syngiunI followed the getting started guide for 5.10 and now every web browser and email prog don't even start...  I get the "startimg firefox" box in the bottom panel, limewire does connect tho...08:37
Siorainavarone,  how much Boingo have you herd?08:37
towshebahttp://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73609.jpg << flux works but not properly08:37
towshebalook at the menu http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73609.jpg << once again08:38
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navaroneSiorai...not a lot. I wasn't a new waver type...lol08:38
[Jonne] ok then08:38
Seveassyngiun, which "getting started" guide?08:38
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Seveassyngiun, if it was ubuntuguide.org: you're screwed and probably better reinstall08:38
os2macSeveas: wiki doesn't seem to be accepting passwd's atm.... at all.08:38
Sioraihaha, I was only born 21 years ago, so I never really got to see em in their 'prime' so to speak, but I really do lvoe them, Danny Elfman is a god, navarone08:39
Locketowsheba: :-\ i'm out of idea's let me log out and see if it works right for me08:39
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syngiunhttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html08:39
towshebaok thnk you :D08:39
os2macSiorai: I saw them in concert for Deadman's Party.....08:39
AgamottoSiorai:  You should have been around London in 1981... much music08:39
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Seveassyngiun, that ought to work08:39
MasterObinWanKsyngiun, whats the url for the 5.10 guide ?08:39
jonathonwhat does smp mean in regards to a kernel08:39
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Seveasjonathon, symettric multiprocessing08:40
varsendaggerSeveas, i am halfway in the process of getting the gpg so i can upload packages and sign the agreement, hyave you done that?08:40
navreethi, I am running 64bit breezy... but I can't install azureus... any ideas? [I have universe and multiverse selected] 08:40
Agamottojonathon:  multiple processors, which you don't have08:40
Sioraios2mac,  bastard!  I would have loved to have seen em... ;)08:40
syngiunfirefox worked prior, I went thru the entire guide, rebooted, then no web or email08:40
Seveasvarsendagger, ah that part, of course :)08:40
varsendagger-- i jsut want to take care of it before i go to bed08:40
jonathonok great guys08:40
os2macSiorai: I couldn08:40
Seveasvarsendagger, lol, I just woke up :)08:40
navreetE: Package azureus has no installation candidate08:40
SioraiAgamotto,  Yeah, although now, I'm a candy raver08:40
jonathoni have that hyperthreading thing tho08:40
varsendaggeri'm in montana U08:40
os2mac't hear for three days afterware08:40
Seveasnavreet, azureus is not in there :)08:40
Seveas!azureus08:40
ubotumethinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo08:40
Agamottovarsendagger:  What part of Montana?08:40
SioraiHahaha awesome08:41
Seveasvarsendagger, the netherlands ;)08:41
varsendaggerbozocity08:41
varsendaggercool08:41
MasterObinWanKsyngiun, whats the url for the 5.10 guide ?08:41
towshebause Rodi or DDL - p2p/bitt suck08:41
Sioraiutorrent is fantastic08:41
syngiunI even uninstalled the firestarter packages,  still no web or mail08:41
varsendaggerAgamotto, where are you08:41
syngiunhttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html08:41
os2macvarsendagger I used to live in Coeur D'alene, ID08:41
varsendaggercool08:41
varsendaggeros2mac,08:41
SioraiDDL ?08:41
Agamottovarsendagger:  Moline, Illinois, USA.  Find Chicago, then go 240km due west until you hit Iowa08:42
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varsendaggerSeveas, can you help me decode the code that the launchpad peopel sent me08:42
syngiunI tried to re-install firefox, still no wev08:42
syngiunweb08:42
Seveasvarsendagger, you can do that with gpg08:42
varsendaggercool08:42
Seveasif you use evolution, that even should be done automatically08:42
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navaronetowsheba> have you heard of mlmonkey? Have looked a ttheir site but dowload pages seesm to be down...not a good sign08:43
Seveasotherwise just save it to a file and do gpg --decrypt < /path/to/file08:43
Locketowsheba: working fine for me08:43
jonathonam i going to need to do anything or when apt-get is done my new kernel will be done just change my bootloader?08:43
towshebamlmonkey no08:43
johnnybezakhey guys, is there somewhere i can get windows media codecs for ubuntu, I know they're restricted just wondering if their was some where unofficial that I could get them08:43
towshebaoh god damn you locke XD08:43
towshebalol08:43
Seveasjonathon, apt-get takes care of the bootloader, you just need to reboot08:43
towshebaif I were to setup ssh server or remote dtop08:43
navaronetowsheba> supposed no be multinetwork compliant p2p client08:44
jonathonjohnnybezak: www.mplayerhq.hu08:44
Agamottojonathon: You shouldn't have to do anything but reboot to get into the new kernel08:44
towshebayou want to connect?08:44
Locketowsheba: lol, /msg me so we don't bother everyone else08:44
jonathonok awessome08:44
sabmannubotu tell johnnybezaj about w32codecs08:44
towshebaaim : lovedanimosity08:44
jonathonwhy wasnt linux this easy las time i TRIED!!08:44
syngiunjohnny  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:44
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SioraiI don't like Rodi for one simple reason08:44
Agamottojonathon:  If anything goes nuts, reboot back into the i386 kernel08:44
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os2macSeveas:I am trying to get onto the wiki to add a page but it won't take my launchpad login.... just my email address... and when I go to my user prefs page it says its the wrong passwd when i tried to save...even though tha the passwd I used to login with...08:45
johnnybezaksyngiun: read my post please I said that I'm aware that they are restricted08:45
SioraiThe same reason why Azureus isn't as good... Java...08:45
Locketowsheba: ok... still not working?08:45
os2macSeveas: any ideas/08:45
sabmannubotu tell johnnybezak about w32codecs08:45
Agamottojonathon:  Things have improved in the last three years, especially with the likes of UBuntu08:45
towshebano08:45
Seveasos2mac, cay you still login at launvhpad.net?08:45
towshebamsn : iamcloacked@hotmail.com08:45
Locketowsheba: how did you install it?08:45
syngiunjohnny  follow the instructions on that url,  it tells you how and gives you a link...  RTFM!!!08:45
jonathoni would so wish to have gentoo instead though08:45
towshebawith synaptec08:45
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navaronejonathon>last linux install I did mess my partion table some how. Maybe fragmented windows partion b4 install<shrug> I got network card to run fianlly did a urpmi auto select to do updates and I think hosed the setup trying to dl too much...lol08:46
slashx1896yay i finnaly have ubuntu running!08:46
johnnybezakdoes anyone know of debs that are PPC for the win32codecs?08:46
Locketowsheba: how do i open folders in fluxbox... lol08:46
os2macSeveas: yes with my email address....08:46
towshebaterminal08:46
towshebacd08:46
towshebaor you get fileman08:47
jonathonlol08:47
Locketowsheba: ... and you want this over gnome... WHY?08:47
The_Isle_of_Markgood job slashx189608:47
jonathonmy partitions on my hd were a mess08:47
towshebabecause its better08:47
towshebatrust me08:47
jonathoni have like 9 partitions for windows08:47
towshebatry it out08:47
Seveasos2mac, the wiki gets its login info directly from launchpad...08:47
towshebahttp://themes.org <<<08:47
slashx1896i dont have internt tho...08:47
Locketowsheba: whats the command to show files?08:47
syngiunjohnny  enable universe and multiverse in synaptic,  search for w32codecs08:47
Seveasso if launchpad works, the wiki should too08:47
towshebatransparancy terminals/shells :D08:48
slashx1896well my interent on ubuntu isnt working08:48
towshebait comes in handy08:48
jonathonyou can download the codecs from www.mplayerhq.hu like i said08:48
towshebaespecially when running alot of windows in one workspace ( wifi cracking)08:48
Lockewhats the command to show files in a directory?08:48
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towshebals08:48
towshebals /dir/dir******08:48
Subsonixhave you read the thing about Gnubuntu (a new Ubuntu derivative) on www.ubuntux.org?08:48
Locketowsheba: what directory is the file in?08:48
Locketowsheba: the deb08:48
navaronejonathon> my windows partion has errors as we speak. On fat32 not ntfs so chkdsk no work...Partition Magic complains when it loads and then exits...but it still runs fine <knock wood>08:48
towshebaHome08:49
navreetSeveas, thanks08:49
AgamottoWell, I must away.  Time to pass out for a few hours.08:49
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Locketowsheba:?08:49
os2macSeveas: and it will let me login... just won't let me save my preferences..... the name is set to my wiki name and not my email address....08:49
towshebaLocke: home08:49
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os2macand returns an error that says password is invalid.08:49
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slashx1896can someone help me get interent on ubuntu?08:49
syngiunwhat could be in the 5.10 getting started guide that would cause web browsers and email clients to not even start...08:49
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syngiun???08:49
varsendaggerSeveas, i'm getting no vaild open gpg data found08:50
towshebahome/towsheba/ << flux .14 deb is located08:50
Locketowsheba: alright, open up a terminal and type dpkg -i filenam.deb08:50
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towshebak08:50
BeleysYop08:50
syngiunwhat does that mean when web and email progs won't start, but limewire runs fine......?????08:50
navaronetowsheba> is flex like xfce...where you can choose session at login?08:51
navaroneflux rather08:51
Lockenavarone: yes08:51
Seveasvarsendagger, post a screenshot of the mail on the pastebin08:51
johnnybezakjonathan: will they work with gstreamer?08:51
deFrysksyngiun, usually pebkac08:51
SeveasdeFrysk, :)08:51
slashx1896Can someone please help me, i dont have ineternet on ubuntu.. i dont know why i dont though..., my connecton is fine08:52
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navaronexfce installed a few interesting goodies. Like fstab mount manager...nice thing to have08:52
towshebaoh dur dur dur08:52
towshebaim a f*cktard08:52
navaroneslash> are you ona winmodem?08:52
towshebaim trying to run i38608:52
towshebaon a amd6408:52
os2macslash: what kind of connection? wired or wireless?08:52
towshebaXD08:52
slashx1896wireless08:52
Locketowsheba: ... wow08:52
towshebathats why it messed up last time08:52
syngiundeFrysk   fu a$$hole08:52
jirwinok, so I want to be able to use my wireless, but when I come to my desk and plug in to my ethernet cable, I want it to use that instead08:53
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towshebait installed for what ever reson08:53
towshebathen it jacked up08:53
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towshebathis time it caught it08:53
jirwinany ideas? running breezy08:53
towshebanow to find 64bit flux :-S08:53
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mrkojeslashx, goto the shell and type   ifconfig08:53
mrkojesee if your network cards are set up08:53
Seveastowsheba, flux as in fluxbox?08:53
Locketowsheba: you got AIM?08:54
navaronejirwin are you docking a notebook?08:54
towshebaaeonflux - alexander the great08:54
towshebaXD08:54
towshebano fluxbox08:54
towshebai mean yes fluxbox08:54
towshebadont listen to me any one08:54
slashx1896mrkoje, shell meaning terminal?08:54
towshebai tried installing i386 to amd6408:54
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jirwinnavarone, not docking, but when I come to my desk, I would like to use my gigabit08:54
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Locketowsheba: do you have AIM?08:54
mrkojeslashx, yes08:54
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towshebayes08:54
towshebaaim name 1 : lovedanimosity08:54
towshebaaim name 2 : nietforgotten08:55
towshebamsn : iamcloacked@hotmail.com08:55
Sioraiwoweezers08:55
towshebayahoo : iamcloacked@yahoo.com08:55
slashx1896mrkoje, ok i tpyed it08:55
Ce_DreakuHello, does anybody know what software should I look for in Ubuntu if I need a DJ Mixing utility like Virtual DJ for example?08:55
towshebagmessenger : iamcloacked@gmail.com08:55
slashx1896how can i tell if there setup?08:55
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Locketowsheba: are you on any of them?08:56
ElBaronowhat's the next release called, and is it stable yet?08:56
ElBaronoI mean, relatively stable08:56
varsendaggerhow do i take a screenshot ctrl prtscrn? or do i need soething else08:56
Ce_DreakuHello, does anybody know what software should I look for in Ubuntu if I need a DJ Mixing utility like Virtual DJ for example? or at least please recomend a good mp3 player08:56
slashx1896mrkoje, i typed ifconfig in the terminal, now how do i tell if the cards are set up?08:56
navaronevarsendagger...System/Screenshot08:56
ElBaronoce_dreaku: xmms08:56
SeveasElBarono, The Dapper Drake and it's unstable08:56
SeveasCe_Dreaku, that'll not suffice08:57
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os2macSeveas: any ideas about wiki?08:57
Seveasxmms is not really a dj-ing tool08:57
Seveasos2mac, not really08:57
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ElBaronoit's a good mp3 player though08:57
Ce_Dreakuis there any such dj-ing tool?08:57
Seveasyes there is08:57
Ce_Dreakuhey good mp3 player will do08:57
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SeveasI can't remember the name :S08:57
navaroneaudacity?08:57
Ce_DreakuI don't think so08:58
Ce_Dreakuaudacity is something else08:58
ElBaronodbmix - DJ mixer for digital audio streams08:58
Ce_Dreakuit's more of an editing tool08:58
Ce_Dreakubut how do I install dbmix? I tried but couldn't get it to work08:58
Ce_Dreakuwhat is the corect command line?08:58
slashx1896uhm?08:58
ElBaronogjay - An automatic and learning DJ for xmms08:58
ElBaronopytone - Music jukebox with advanced features for DJs and a text-mode user interface08:58
navaronedreaku...if you r adventurist you can check out projects in freshmeat or sourceforge...but quality varies08:58
slashx1896What do i do after i type 'ifconfig'?08:59
jirwinslashx1896, for what?08:59
slashx1896jirwin, see if my network cardsare set up08:59
jirwinifconfig will show you08:59
SioraiJust exactly how much financial backign DOES sourceforge have anyway?08:59
varsendaggerthanks08:59
slashx1896i dont understand how to read it and see if they are setup08:59
giany911how can i mount an image ? ... iso ? in ubuntu ?09:00
varsendaggerSiorai, 1 million dollars09:00
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honeyhaloooooooo09:00
Seveasgiany911, mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint09:00
Ce_Dreakugood question, I think there is a nero linux application that can do that also09:00
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giany911seveas ty09:00
Sioraivarsendagger for costs of admin, server, electricity, etc09:01
Sioraithat would go very fast...09:01
SeveasSiorai, please take off-topic discussions somewhere else09:01
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giany911how about a .mdf?09:01
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giany911ce_dreaku ...esti roman ?09:01
Seveasmaybe bchunk can convert it ti iso giany91109:02
giany911ok ty09:02
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slashx1896jirwin; it looks like they are but i cant tell09:02
Mabus06!it09:02
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...09:02
giany911ce_dreaku esti roman bre?09:02
Mabus06giany911, what language are you speaking?09:03
giany911mabus06 romanian :)09:03
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giany911i asked some one if he's from romania too09:03
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Mabus06aye09:03
giany911;)09:03
Seveasgiany911, please etick to english in her so we can be sure you're not swearing ;)09:04
Seveasstick*09:04
giany911seveas ok sorry09:04
slashx1896ok can someone help me on geting interent on ubuntu, im kinda confused...09:04
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DAVIDSapa09:05
giany911?09:05
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NAiLHi all... I've tried getting sound to work for a couple of hours now. It's a via AC97 device, recognized and module loaded. No matter what I do, I can't get *any* sound. Anyone got any ideas?09:06
os2macOK I just don't understand.... I must be an id10t.....09:06
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giany911did u check the volume ?09:06
slashx1896im the one here whos an idiot...09:06
giany911i got the same card and i hv sound09:06
SioraiNAiL, I have the same problem on FC309:06
NAiLgiany911: yeah, I've tried maxing everything09:07
Sioraierm, that is to say, FC4.... exactly the same problem, it sucks *pouts*09:07
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NAiLno joy :-\09:07
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giany911nail .. do know then i hv the same i got a via k7vt2 and my sound works fine09:07
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slashx1896i cant read and understand ifconfig and see if my cards are setup...09:07
giany911dont know :)09:07
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varsendaggerwhere is the ubuntu pastebin?\09:07
Myrttierm, how can I check which locales are installed?09:07
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bob_4_a_day!paste09:08
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text09:08
mike_douglasI have this really odd bug affect Xorg in dapper. Colors from windows beneath the current one seem to be leaking through, but only when black is displayed.09:08
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mike_douglasseems to be a device driver problem, as it doesn't show up in screenshots09:08
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giany911has any1 tried to install nfs mw on ubuntu ?09:09
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mike_douglasany Ubuntu Xorg devs I can talk to?09:10
slashx1896i cant do shit on ubuntu till iget me internet on it.. but im to confused rite now....09:10
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giany911slashx1896 did u activate eth0 ?09:10
slashx1896huh09:10
slashx1896i just got ubuntu installed like 30 minsago.. so i dont know much09:11
slashx1896wats eth0?09:11
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pc22re: broken packages during installation. and wont fix broken packages. do i have to redownload installer?09:11
giany911System ->  Administration -> Networking -> click on eth0 and activate09:11
os2macslash1986: that is your wired ethernet adaptor.09:11
giany911slashx1896 got that?09:12
slashx1896yea  its activated09:12
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giany911so u got net:)09:12
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slashx1896no i dont09:12
giany911then how are u speaking with me ?09:12
giany911on irc ?09:12
slashx1896im on a different computer09:12
giany911ow09:12
giany911wait09:12
slashx1896i have a laptop and a desktop rite next to eachother09:13
NiklasH_1orkhi, anyone else having problems starting firefox on breezy?09:13
giany911go to ... networking again09:13
slashx1896the desktop is running ubuuntu09:13
slashx1896ubuntu09:13
slashx1896ok09:13
giany911go to networking again09:13
giany911then click on etho and properties09:13
slashx1896ok09:13
giany911check enable this conn ... the on configuration select dchp09:13
giany911*dhcp09:14
slashx1896ok09:14
giany911now ok09:14
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giany911and u must hv net09:14
giany911works ?09:14
slashx1896Activating interface "eth0"09:14
giany911yea09:14
giany911thats what is supposed to say09:14
slashx1896i know09:14
slashx1896lol09:14
giany911:)09:14
slashx1896il tell u when its done..09:15
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giany911ok09:15
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bob_4_a_dayturn the collid-a-nick very slowly.....09:15
slashx1896done09:15
slashx1896now lets c if i got net09:15
giany911got net ?09:15
giany911try google ..09:15
drumlineI got milk09:15
giany911:))09:15
giany911lol09:15
slashx1896www.google.com could not be found. please chekc nmane and try again09:16
slashx1896o.O09:16
giany911fam09:16
giany911dam09:16
giany911go to networking again09:16
slashx1896ok09:16
giany911and .. u know what ip and gateway u must hv ?09:16
slashx1896yea09:16
giany911put them manually09:16
pc22hello giany91109:16
giany911hi ..09:16
slashx1896i cant under DHCP09:16
giany911ho09:17
giany911no09:17
giany911static ip instead of dhcp09:17
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pc22911 pls09:17
giany911pc22 ?09:17
varsendaggerSeveas, can i just give you my screenshot for the gpg problem?09:17
pc22re: broken packages during installation. and wont fix broken packages. do i have to redownload installer?09:17
pc22i meant ubuntu09:17
slashx1896ok09:17
giany911synaptic?09:17
giany911ubuntu is broken ?09:17
slashx1896still no net, this time when i go to google nothing happens09:18
pc22i downloaded a new installer09:18
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varsendaggerslashx1896, is this a new problem?09:18
pc22i want to install to a new comp09:18
slashx1896last time it said google not found, now it doesnt do anything09:18
giany911slashx1896 then .. i out of ideas ..try wiki09:18
bob_4_a_dayvarsendagger: it is a new install so i'd guess it was.09:18
NAiLSiorai: I got sound now ;)09:19
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slashx1896wiki?09:19
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z0rzWhat c compiler is installed on ubuntu?09:19
varsendaggermy dsl dumps so every f hours or so i hve to change it back09:19
bob_4_a_daygcc09:19
SioraiNAiL,  awesome stuff, how'd you get it to work?09:19
NAiLSiorai: I had to change the number of channels to 6 (Why beats me, but now I have music)09:19
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bob_4_a_dayz0rz: you need to install built-essential09:19
varsendaggeri had the change the /etc/resolv.conf    just to 4.2.2.109:20
mike_douglasbuild-essential09:20
slashx1896giany911: wiki?09:20
giany911http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html09:20
bob_4_a_day!b-e09:20
varsendaggeror rather nameserver 4,2,2,109:20
ubotuIf you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.09:20
giany911go to networking ..and i think u will find something there09:20
varsendaggeror rather nameserver 4.2.2.1 ahhh09:20
giany911slashx189609:20
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giany911u must add dns for the ip to work09:20
giany911slashx1896 u know what dns u got ?09:20
slashx1896under network settings should there be a loctation? (on the top)09:21
z0rzbob .. why wasn't that installed by default?09:21
giany911slashx1896 do u know your dns ? ... u must 2 i think09:21
slashx1896nope09:21
giany911do u hv same provider on the desktop as on the laptop ?09:21
slashx1896yea09:21
bob_4_a_dayz0rz: i had nothing to do with building the install iso's09:21
slashx1896there both using simular wireless cards, both conncted to same router09:22
z0rzI assumed you didn't.. but I was hoping you (or someone else) would have a logically explanation of why that wasn't included09:22
varsendaggermsg Seveas, i can't find a pastebin that's up can i send you the jpg09:22
giany911slashx1896 wireless ?09:22
slashx1896yes09:22
giany911well i dont know how to configure that09:22
bob_4_a_dayz0rz: the answer i got on it was "anyone needing a c compiler can surely install the extra package"09:22
slashx1896o.O09:22
z0rzI see09:23
giany911in that list .. with etho u got any thing else there?09:23
slashx1896Modem09:23
giany911thats all ?09:23
slashx1896yeah09:23
giany911well u should see the wifi card09:23
slashx1896and under dns i have 1 dns server09:23
giany911u are not using etho09:24
z0rzwoot.. working nicely.. thanks bob09:24
giany911u are using a wireless card ....09:24
bob_4_a_daynp09:24
slashx1896yeah...09:24
giany911..well i dont know how to help u :(09:24
slashx1896aw, its ok, il find someone else09:24
bob_4_a_day!wifi09:24
ubotuwifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:24
bob_4_a_dayslashx1896:  go there   ^09:25
slashx1896that for wireless cards?09:25
giany911yep09:25
slashx1896k09:25
bob_4_a_dayyessir09:25
HowardDrakewhich wireless chipset are you using for your card?09:25
HowardDrakesorry if I missed that part09:25
w0rd54!tvinfo boondocks09:25
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, w0rd5409:25
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slashx1896HowardDrake: me?09:26
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HowardDrakeyes09:26
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kzmAnybody know how to list functions imported by a binary?09:26
afbhow do i open the dvd drive?09:27
slashx1896i dont know what chipset im using09:27
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kzmSimilar to ldd, but showing each function, not just the .so09:27
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afbit is /dev/hdc09:27
kzmafb, eject button?09:27
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HowardDrakewhat's the manufacturer and model?09:27
mrgahi all09:27
slashx1896linksys09:27
slashx1896and..09:27
afbkzm, doesn't open when i hit that button09:27
TheBeasthello09:27
slashx1896i can findout the model09:27
slashx1896hold on09:27
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yatesyafb: make sure its unmounted first09:27
kzmafb, is it mounted?09:27
afbhow?09:27
HowardDrakeif its linksys you're running a Broadcom chipset09:27
mrganeed command for flasing DNS09:27
yatesyumount09:27
slashx1896here09:27
kzmafb, type 'mount' and see if it is listed09:27
afbumount /dev/hdc?09:28
bob_4_a_daykzm ltrace might be able to get that for you with a pipe through grep09:28
HowardDrakenot a Linux friendly chipset09:28
slashx1896Linksyswirelss pci card, model : WMP11 ver 2.709:28
kzmbob_4_a_day, hmm...I didn't want to run it, if it could be avoided.09:28
TheBeastthe installation guide says "On the first boot after installation, the end user will be asked to select a language, keyboard layout, time zone configuration, and create the first user account."09:28
afbit is listed on mount09:28
TheBeastI have an user accound but nothing showed up09:28
TheBeasthelp09:28
TheBeast:)09:28
mrganeed command for flashing DNS09:28
afbi've never used linux09:28
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kzmafb, umount /media/dvd (or wherever it is)09:28
yatesymrga: what the hell is "flashing" dns?09:28
bob_4_a_daykzm i don't know then09:28
afbk, thx09:28
kzmafb, or 'umount /dev/dvd'09:28
mrgamy network is to slow09:29
bob_4_a_dayparse the sourse maybe09:29
kzmafb, it may not work, if a process is holding open a file on it.09:29
HowardDrakeare you having problems setting it up with ndiswrapper?09:29
kzmafb, look up 'fuser', which can tell you which process it is.09:29
mrgaand i have dsl 1,5/1 mb09:29
mrgaand i can open any web09:29
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TheBeastHell with ubuntu09:29
mrgaonly if is ip09:29
TheBeastgood night09:30
slashx1896HowardDrake: whats nidswrapper?09:30
naliothSeveas: are you here?09:30
mrgafor google is 77.95. .......09:30
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mrgai tray firefox and mozila but same story09:31
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HowardDrakendiswrapper is what you use to wrap a Windows driver for use in Linux09:31
afbhmm...09:31
afbtrying to get vlc to play a dvd09:32
HowardDrakesince there are no real native linux drivers for that card09:32
afbanyone done this?09:32
slashx1896ok how do i get it on my desktop (the one running ubuntu atm)09:32
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mrganeed command for this " [ Network Stats ]  Device: eth0 | Hostname: ms012 | Data: In: 141793063 (135.2 Mb)  Out: 262560424 (250.3 Mb)"09:32
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HowardDrakewell download the windows drivers09:32
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viviersfafb, you installed dvdread3 and dvdcss and dvdnav ?09:32
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slashx1896on my laptop or desktop?09:32
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afbviviersf, no... i didn't know about those...09:33
viviersfkk09:33
slashx1896i guess laptop, cause i cant dl on desktop with out internet :P09:33
HowardDrakewhichever machine is running Linux09:33
viviersfafb, private09:33
slashx1896oo09:33
agilmantowsheba, sorry, I was away for an hour09:33
slashx1896well my laptop is running windows xp, and m desktop is running ubuntu09:33
mrgayatesy09:33
bob_4_a_dayslashx1896: if you have no network access on the desktop, then you will have use the lappy for the dl and copy it over....09:33
agilmantowaseba, actually I tried going to bed, but ... insomnia09:33
afbviviersf, i dont see those in the package list and i got universe and multiverse added...09:34
agilmantowsheba, did you figure it out?09:34
viviersfwait09:34
HowardDrakethanks for the assist Bob09:34
slashx1896so dl the ndiswrapper on my laptop?and burn to a cd and transfer over to the desktop?09:34
bob_4_a_dayget the driver too no need in burning two cds09:35
HowardDrakeno09:35
HowardDrakeyou need to get ndiswrapper running on your desktop09:35
HowardDrakendiswrapper is a package09:35
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HowardDrakehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=ndiswrapper+HOWTO09:36
HowardDrakecheck this out09:36
slashx1896shouldi get 1.5 since 1.6 is testing still09:36
towshebawow09:36
HowardDrakeyeah09:36
HowardDrakego with stable09:37
towshebathat laststep workspace is the best :D09:37
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towshebadoes not look like much when you google for it09:37
towshebabut once you install it09:37
towshebait r0x09:37
giany911any1 tried to install nfs mw on ubuntu ?09:37
oggIf I create a partition for ubuntu, and install ubuntu on it beside winxp on a ntfs-partition. Is there any possibilities to erase this linuxpartition, merge to one partition and make it ntfs later?09:37
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oggdont know the name of the ubuntupartition. ext3..09:38
giany911ogg if u merge 2 partitions ..its the risk of loosing the stuff on them09:38
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mjrogg, yes; remove the ubuntu partition and extend the ntfs partition into the space09:38
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oggok09:38
oggthanks09:38
oggthis is possible with partition magic?09:39
bob_4_a_dayogg yes you can delete a linux partition and reclaim the space for M$ windows if you like.09:39
giany911yes09:39
slashx1896so download ndiswrapper, and put it on cd, and download my driver from linksys website and put on same cd?09:39
bob_4_a_daysure09:40
ogganyone running breezy on a thinkpad T41?09:40
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ogggosh, bought a ibm thinkpad t41. its so sweet. totaly silent.09:40
slashx1896do i get driver from linksys website or from my pci card cd?09:41
HowardDrakeI tend to get the website09:41
bob_4_a_daycheck both09:41
HowardDrakemore up-to-date driver09:41
z0rzwtf... make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.09:42
z0rzI just ran make config btw09:42
z0rzafter I ran ./configure09:42
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kubuntitohello09:42
afb[00000270]  dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source:09:42
afb[00000269]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'09:42
afb[00000260]  main playlist: nothing to play09:42
kubuntitodoes anybody use thunderbird ?09:42
z0rznope09:42
kubuntitowhat do u use z0rz  ?09:42
z0rzthat's of the past.. you must be the only one09:42
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z0rzThunderbird09:43
bob_4_a_daybeets me z0rz, look for any docs in the dir.09:43
giany911dam theres no support for my tuner under ubuntu09:43
z0rzit's freaking eggdrop09:43
kubuntitoi can't send e-mails and i don't know why09:43
z0rztry changing your search terms from ubuntu to debian09:43
kubuntitoi can get them but not send any09:43
z0rzimap or pop3?09:43
slashx1896wow my driver hassnt been updates since november 200209:44
kubuntitopop309:44
afbanyone have any ideas on problem with my dvd playback?09:44
HowardDrakeyou're still running an ancient 802.11b card09:44
kubuntitobut that is for get them09:44
slashx1896yeah..09:44
z0rzwhat email servers are you using?09:44
HowardDrakeanother option is get a 802.11g card that is more Linux compatible09:44
kubuntitoi thing something is wrong with the smtp configuration or something like, but i don't know what's the problem09:44
kubuntitosmtp.gmail.com09:45
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HowardDrakeNetgear uses Atheros which is much better supported under Linux09:45
kubuntitoand pop.gmail.com09:45
slashx1896cant do that atm, is it requried? or can ijust stick with my 802.11b card09:45
bob_4_a_dayz0rz: what version of eggdrop ?09:45
HowardDrakeno09:45
HowardDrakejust a suggestion09:45
slashx1896ok09:45
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z0rzhttp://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1328509:45
z0rz1.6.17 I belive09:45
HowardDrakeare you running Breezy or Hoary?09:46
bob_4_a_day1.6.17-3 (breezy)09:46
bob_4_a_dayjust apt-get it09:46
kubuntitoi followed that z0rz09:46
z0rzDid you change your port to 587?09:46
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kubuntitoexactly the same steps09:46
kubuntitoyes and i put TSL09:47
kubuntitoTLS*09:47
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kubuntitowhat can i do z0rz  ?09:48
kubuntitouh09:49
kubuntitois so strange09:49
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kubuntitoi fix it09:50
kubuntitogood09:50
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kubuntito:)09:50
z0rzwhat was wrong?09:51
HowardDrakein a related query regarding Thunderbird, how can I set it so any mailto: links open it instead of Evolution?09:51
slashx1896ok my driver and ndiswrapper are being burned to a disc09:51
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kubuntitoi put as @gmail.com09:51
kubuntitoand u only need the user...09:52
z0rznewb09:52
z0rz;)09:52
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kubuntitosometimes we don't should do whatever we read09:52
kubuntitosure z0rz  :))09:52
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kubuntitoi used gmail webpage for get the mail in gentoo with e17 last week :))09:53
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z0rz$ make config09:54
z0rzmake: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.09:54
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z0rzCan anyone help me (that's when installing eggdrop 1.6.1709:54
kubuntitomake ./config09:54
slashx1896HowardDuke: i have both ndiswrape and my driver on my desktop pc09:54
kubuntito;)09:54
slashx1896now what?09:54
HowardDrakedid you grab ndiswrapper as a tar.gz or as a deb?09:54
bob_4_a_dayz0rz: why do you not install the deb ?09:54
slashx1896tar.gz09:55
z0rzbecause when I did I couldn 't find the .conf09:55
z0rzeggdrop.conf that is09:55
slashx1896i think09:55
slashx1896it says its tar.tar09:55
HowardDrakeslash, are you running breezy or hoary?09:55
kubuntitobut i think u don't need make any .configure before09:55
slashx1896uhm?09:55
slashx1896i dunno09:55
kubuntitoanyway make a ls -la and tell me if there are any config ...09:56
bob_4_a_dayslashx1896: uname -r09:56
HowardDrakethanks bob09:56
z0rz$ make ./config09:56
z0rzmake: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.09:56
slashx18962.6.12-8-386, i get that when i type uname -r09:56
z0rzIf I knew where the eggdrop.conf file was then I could just install it with the deb09:56
HowardDrakeyou're running Breezy09:57
slashx1896ok09:57
HowardDrakeso actually you might not need the ndiswrapper file09:57
slashx1896just the driver?09:57
HowardDrakeTry going into Synaptic09:57
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HowardDrakeyup09:57
slashx1896k09:57
slashx1896where is synaptic?09:57
HowardDrakebreezy probably has a recent enough version of ndiswrapper already there09:57
HowardDrakeUnder the System menu09:58
HowardDrakeAdministration, and then select Synaptic09:58
slashx1896synaptic package manager09:58
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slashx1896ok09:59
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HowardDrakethats it09:59
slashx1896now what do i do while im insynaptic?09:59
bob_4_a_dayz0rz:  install and  'sudo find / -name "*eggdrop*" '09:59
HowardDrakedo a search for "ndiswrapper"10:00
z0rzI did a locate eggdrop and I didn't see the .conf10:00
kubuntitomake a updatedb10:00
kubuntitofirst10:00
z0rzI did10:00
trygveanyone know anything about running rsync in daemon mode?10:00
slashx1896it found10:00
kubuntitoso strange10:00
slashx1896nidswrapper-utils10:00
z0rzand running eggdrop said no .conf file10:00
slashx1896nidwrapper-utils*10:00
slashx1896ugh ccant type lol10:00
HowardDrakeI got it10:01
trygvenope =p10:01
HowardDrakeSelect that10:01
slashx1896ok10:01
HowardDrakeand the -source one too10:01
slashx1896only 1 came up10:01
HowardDrakeok10:02
slashx1896and mark for installation?10:02
HowardDrakeyup10:02
slashx1896ok10:02
z0rzalright I'm installing now10:02
slashx1896now hit apply?10:02
z0rzusing synaptic10:02
bob_4_a_dayhey do you think ndiswrapper would let me use a winmodem ?10:02
z0rzDude I think it's gonna work this tie10:03
z0rzI typed eggdrop and it said make sure you eidt your config file compeletely10:03
slashx1896howardDrake: after i mark for installaton do i hit apply?10:03
z0rzYes slash10:03
slashx1896ok10:03
slashx1896just makin surel ol10:03
slashx1896lol*10:03
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slashx1896ok its done10:03
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z0rzok I found the example eggdrop.conf ... but where do I put it?10:04
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bob_4_a_day~10:05
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slashx1896HowardDuke: Its done being installed, now what do i do?10:05
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HowardDrakewell we're most of the way there10:06
z0rzI don't think so bob10:06
slashx1896ok10:06
slashx1896now how do i wrap my driver or w/e?10:06
HowardDrakeone sec while I verify procedure10:07
slashx1896alrite10:07
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MAPDhi10:07
HowardDrakeI usually use Atheros chipsets10:07
MAPDneed help please10:07
HowardDrakeso I never go through this10:07
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slashx1896o ok10:07
MAPDfirst the sources.list gives me errors10:07
MAPD:\10:07
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HowardDrakeHey Bob, try http://www.linmodems.org/10:07
MAPDand second to go to the net on linux i need to set a static ip gateway and nameserver but im  not able to add a nameserver10:07
MAPDplease help10:08
qashey guys ... i wrote a bash script, but always when i execute it there is always online "sh-3.00#" and i have to type "exit" before it will be executed...10:08
MAPDbut i need to fix10:08
MAPDthe internet10:08
MAPDto configure the nameserver10:08
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MAPDi need to set 3 ips10:09
MAPDi can only set 210:09
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bob_4_a_dayqas pastebin the script and ill give it a look.10:10
bob_4_a_day!paste10:10
ubotuhmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:10
HowardDrake:-D10:10
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HowardDrakeactually I prefer to play frozen bubble while waiting10:10
slashx1896lol i dont have that10:11
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slashx1896and i give up on blackjack i lost 5 times ina row10:11
slashx1896lol10:11
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HowardDrakeas soon as you get your wireless running get it10:11
qasbob_4_a_day, http://pastebin.com/44070510:11
slashx1896as soon as you finsih helping me i will ;)10:11
giany911hooray i made my tuner work :D finally10:11
bob_4_a_daylooking10:12
HowardDrake:-D10:12
Shastaoanyone know anything about easy Japanese input from a US keyboard in linux?  I'd like to have something similar to Global IME for windoze if possible.10:12
slashx1896wow this robot game is pritty messed up10:12
bob_4_a_dayqas  your first line is ' /bin/sh '    should  be  '#!/bin/sh '10:13
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slashx1896hows it goin Drake?10:13
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HowardDrakecoming along10:13
slashx1896ok10:13
HowardDrakeI'm talking to my gf in China as well10:14
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iveqyhello, I need some help, my tft monitor is only displaying 640*480 @ 60 Hz, and I can't change it...10:14
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slashx1896o ok, take ur time.. just hope i can get interent soon... i dont hacve this laptop for long10:14
HowardDrakeyou should have it within the hour10:14
qasbob_4_a_day, yeah ... thx. that was it ... but where is the difference?10:14
slashx1896alrite10:14
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slashx1896need it before 7 estn10:15
HowardDrakewell I'm in the EST too10:15
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slashx1896cool10:15
bob_4_a_daywith #!   it tells the system that it is a bash script   with out the  #!  it executes a bash shell   and when you close it continuse to execute the commands in the script.10:16
HowardDrakelate night job hunting and such10:16
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cozmorning all or afternoon10:16
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DRAGON_Ultramorning10:16
HowardDrakehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91732&highlight=ndiswrapper+HOWTO10:16
HowardDrakethis is a great walkthrough10:16
bob_4_a_dayqas                   ^10:17
HowardDrakejust sub your driver for the belkin one10:17
Steilis there a way to stop the "unable to eject media" or whatever popup when right click unmounting a usb drive?10:17
qasbob_4_a_day,  hmm?10:17
bob_4_a_daywith #!   it tells the system that it is a bash script   with out the  #!  it executes a bash shell   and when you close it continuse to execute the commands in the script.10:17
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cozSteil I have the same problem with one of my flash drives, but I ususally ignore that10:18
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Steilcoz: Yeah, it's fun to ignore, but if theres a way to turn it off I bet we'll both be happier :)10:18
cozmyone flash drive was manufactured in europe and it gives me just alittle trouble here10:19
cozwell i see it as an indicator of the media not the OS10:19
slashx1896ug my cd drive wont open...10:19
HowardDrakelovely10:19
bob_4_a_dayanother one......   that has got to be a bug....10:20
slashx1896o nvm10:20
slashx1896lol10:20
cozslashx1896 get a paper clip10:20
slashx1896ifixed it lol10:20
samu2slashx1896, mines been stuck a long time already10:20
slashx1896myne wasnt stuck  i was just being stupid10:21
HowardDrakeit happens to all of us10:21
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slashx1896didnt know i had to rite click on my disk and hit eject... ll10:21
slashx1896lol10:21
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HowardDrakewe all learn10:21
cozslashx make a shortcut key  for the keyboard to open it10:21
slashx1896brb10:21
cozI would like to find another shortcut key to close it as well10:21
cozI assigned the windows key to open the cd tray10:22
bob_4_a_daycommand to close is 'eject -t /dev/blah'10:22
patrickubhi10:22
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cozreally? can that be assigned a shortcut key?10:22
bob_4_a_dayyep10:23
cozOK! how would I do that?10:23
Soniumdoes anybody know wich version of x.org ubuntu uses?10:23
bob_4_a_dayjust change blah to what ever device yours is..... mine is /dev/hdd10:23
cozlet me try10:23
bob_4_a_day!info xserver-xorg10:24
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ubotuxserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB10:24
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cozhow would I add this item to the shorcut list?10:24
coz or is there another application for this?10:24
Corrupterhow do i change the permissions on files in terminal?10:24
cozchown10:24
cozchown -R10:25
SteilCorrupter: chmod10:25
bob_4_a_dayCorrupter: 'man chmod'10:25
cozchown -R user name /file location10:25
Steilcoz: Thats for owner, not permissions :)10:25
cozI realixe that it is quick10:25
bob_4_a_daycoz he didn't ask to own them just mod them10:25
cozowning is better!! lol10:25
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Corrupterok... lol, how do i change persmissions on a file that only root can change without using terminal?10:26
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bob_4_a_daysudo in the term.... without a term    alt+f210:27
slashx1896back10:28
HowardDrakewb10:28
cozhow set shortcut key for cd tray close?10:28
slashx1896HowardDuke: cd /media/cdrom0/drivers/ doesnt work10:28
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Soniumif a new version of x.org comes out will there be packages available?10:28
CaptainMorgandoes emacs typically print color or no?10:29
HowardDrakeit wouldn't for you10:29
slashx1896o what do  i put in?10:29
HowardDraketry browsing to the CD-ROM10:29
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slashx1896ok10:29
slashx1896im browsing it now10:30
cozIs it possibel to add a shortcut key sequence to the keyboard shortcut key list?10:30
Corrupteri don't understand this chown thing10:30
HowardDrakeyou should have the zip file for the drivers10:30
crimsunMasterObinWanK: ask the bot here.10:30
bob_4_a_dayyes coz10:30
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cozchown -R allows you to own what is otherwise a root owned file10:30
cozbob_4_a_day OK but how?10:30
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Corrupterit says invalid application -- r10:31
[nige] anyone know how to setup tvtime10:31
slashx1896nope10:31
coznot --r,  -R10:31
slashx1896but i have the setup10:31
[nige] and tel it what card to use?10:31
Corrupterthats what i did10:31
Corrupterchown -r10:31
bob_4_a_daycoz i don't use gnome, do you want me to walk you through the steps in kde ?10:31
cozchown -R username /file/location10:31
cozsorry I use gnome10:31
cozbut go ahead10:31
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Corrupterstill says invalid operation10:32
slashx1896HowardDrake, shoudl i install th driver?10:32
HowardDrakeno10:32
HowardDrakeoh wait10:32
cozare you logged in as root on the terminal?10:32
Corrupteryes10:32
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slashx1896shold i zip all th files for the driver into 1?10:32
cozchown space -R10:32
cozspace username space /File/lication10:33
HowardDrakeno10:33
SnakeChompDont know if this is the right spot, but I have a gnoppix 1.2 beta1 live cd that refuses to work at all on the laptop I tried to boot it onto. Console services fail to start, and the X server fails to load its keyboard module leaving me with a rather unuseful system.10:33
Corrupterinvalid operation10:33
HowardDrakeif they're unzipped thats perfect10:33
slashx1896yeah its unzipped10:33
cozyou did su root right10:33
slashx1896what do i do with the files?10:33
Corrupteryes10:33
SnakeChompIs there anything I could be doing about this or should I just get one of the previous cds?10:33
cozCorrupter is  you did su rooot then password, and spelled everything correctly it should work10:34
Corrupterchown -r10:34
HowardDrakeexcellent10:34
Corrupterinvalid option10:34
cozNO10:34
cozchown -R10:34
cozcapitol R10:35
slashx1896HowardDrake, what do i do now?im confused10:35
HowardDrakesorry10:35
HowardDrakedo you have a terminal window open10:35
bob_4_a_dayCorrupter: why are you owning recursively anyway ?10:35
slashx1896yes10:35
Corruptertoo few options, lol10:35
bob_4_a_dayCorrupter: why are you owning recursively anyway ?10:35
cozOK example10:35
HowardDrakeok10:35
Corrupterbob_4_a_day: i don't know!10:35
Corrupterbob_4_a_day: everyone is telling me to10:36
HowardDrakewhat folder are the drivers located in on the CD-ROM?10:36
cozchown -R my name /usr/share/icons10:36
bob_4_a_daywell dont.10:36
cozyou don't have to corruptor10:36
Corrupterthat works10:36
bob_4_a_dayCorrupter: what are you trying to get to happen there ?10:36
Corrupterfix it all10:36
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slashx1896CD-RW/DVDR Drive: WMP11V2710:36
slashx1896o wait10:36
Corrupteralright, next question, how do i put Opera into my applications10:36
giany911how can i see if a tv tuner remote has been loaded?10:37
slashx1896thats the card cd rom not the one i downloaded from the site10:37
slashx1896hold on10:37
bob_4_a_dayfix what Corrupter ?10:37
HowardDrakethat will work10:37
slashx1896o ok10:37
HowardDrakesince the drivers haven't been updated for 3 years10:37
Corrupteri fixed it10:37
slashx1896lol10:37
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Corrupteri'm just tyring to put Opera in my applications10:37
slashx1896il get a new one when iget the chacne to10:37
bob_4_a_dayok i give up......10:37
slashx1896ok now what?10:37
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cozbob_4_a_day how about that walkthrough for the shortcut key?10:38
kubuntitowhich program do u use for programm ?10:38
kubuntitoprogramming10:39
HowardDrakein the terminal, type in 'ls /media/cdrom0'10:39
MadpilotCorrupter: adding Opera to the menus is easy10:39
Madpilot!tell Corrupter about opera10:39
slashx1896ok10:39
bob_4_a_daymenu > configuration > system > kde > pariferals > keyboard     select shortcut keys      select edit10:39
bob_4_a_daycoz ^10:39
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cozgot I will try something on gnome10:39
cozgot it10:39
Corruptermadpilot: that didn't help, i already have it installed, but it's not in my menu10:40
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cozno edit on gnome that I can see10:40
cozlet me look again10:40
boa-chanumm10:40
boa-chanafter running ./confgiure10:40
boa-chanmake doesnt work10:40
boa-chanroot@ubuntu:~/Desktop/MPlayer-1.0pre7try2# make10:40
boa-chanbash: make: command not found10:40
MadpilotCorrupter: go and read the wiki page, there's a section on adding Opera to your menus...10:40
bob_4_a_daycoz maybe right click on a shortcut   that also works in kde10:40
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crimsunboa-chan: apt-get build-dep mplayer-58610:40
coznope no editiing shortcut keys other than the keysequence itself10:40
slashx1896HowardDuke: i got some stuff inblue text then some other stuff in greentext, thegreentexted ones seem to be fils10:41
coz I cannot add cloe cd tray to the list10:41
cozclose10:41
crimsunboa-chan: make sure you have the main, universe and multiverse repos enabled10:41
boa-chanhmm10:41
boa-chanunder snaptic ?10:41
crimsunyes10:41
bob_4_a_dayprobably can in ~/.gnome<blah>10:41
cozI will have to see if there a a utility for this in gnome10:41
HowardDrakeblue ones are folders10:42
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giany911how can help me with my tv tuner remote10:42
slashx1896ok10:42
slashx1896now what do ido?10:42
giany911who ops :)10:42
cozthanks anyway bob_4_a_day10:42
boa-chancrimsun,10:42
boa-chanmake still doesnt work10:43
reteri am trying to upgrade to breezy and several error messages came up10:43
boa-chani did what you said too10:43
boa-chanisnt make not working a problem with gcc10:43
HowardDrakewhat are the folder names?10:43
bob_4_a_dayok that does it.   i'm gona install ubuntu one more time with gnome just to see if this damn gnome is as unconfigurable as everyone makes it sound......10:43
reterthen i did apt-get -f install and more error messages showed up10:43
reterwhat do i do now?10:43
slashx1896Autorun Manual and Utility10:43
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HowardDrakeso it's probably on the root10:44
HowardDrakethats good10:44
ilba7rwhat is the command to know what program is using a specific port say 883410:44
HowardDrakedo an 'ls /media/cdrom0/*.inf'10:44
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crimsunboa-chan: did you install build-essential in addition to running ''apt-get build-dep mplayer-586''?10:44
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boa-chancrimsun10:45
Shastaocan anyone recommend something easy to use for Japanese input with a US keyboard?10:45
boa-chanim not worrying about apt get right now10:45
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boa-chanim trying to get make to work10:45
slashx18962 files came up10:45
HowardDrakeand they are?10:45
bob_4_a_daywell here goes a working system with no errors,,,,,   be back in about 30 minutes with errors needing help .....    heh ;/10:45
crimsunboa-chan: install the 'build-essential' package.10:45
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samu2Shastao, you can use this uim thing, it wasn't too easy to find out what packages to install though.10:45
crimsunboa-chan: then execute ''apt-get build-dep mplayer-586''10:45
slashx1896wmp11nds.inf and wmp11v2y.inf10:45
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Shastaodoes it work at all like global IME for windoze?10:46
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samu2yeah, it's quite similar10:46
xoredhow to delete a save xsession ? When i login into xfce he still shows me the 2 sessions10:46
slashx1896wmp11v27.inf *10:46
MasterObinWanKcrimsun, I can not get my resolution fixed10:46
Shastaois there a guide or anything on installation?10:46
HowardDrakeok10:46
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HowardDrakethen type in 'cd /media/cdrom010:47
crimsunMasterObinWanK: /msg ubotu fixres10:47
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giany911who can help me configure lirc?10:47
slashx1896ok10:47
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Shastaohmm, I found a page on ubuntuforums about uim, but the poster uses gnome.  I use kde10:48
samu2Shastao, i think i meant scim10:48
slashx1896now what do i type?10:49
samu2Shastao, anyway, i still think it's a bit messy compared to the win IME, and I think you have to do some extra messing around to get it to work with something like openoffice.10:49
samu2Shastao, i just googled for something like "japanese input ubuntu" and installed all the packages that the page that came up told me to.10:50
HowardDrakethen 'sudo ndiswrapper -i wmpv27.inf'10:50
Shastaoah.10:50
HowardDrakewell I got the name wrong but you get the gist10:50
slashx1896lol yea wmp11v27.inf10:50
HowardDrakeyup10:51
slashx1896Password:10:51
HowardDrakewhatever your logon password is10:51
[nige] anyone got tvtime to work?10:51
samu2I'm actually trying it out again now just to see how it worked, and I can't even type the kanji for nihongo.10:51
boa-chanoh10:52
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slashx1896ok10:52
boa-chanhow do you write japanese on irc using linux10:52
boa-chanive never figurerd that out10:52
slashx1896installingwmp11v2710:52
HowardDrakeok10:52
giany911who can help me configure lirc :((10:52
aimlessi have a kinda complicated problem.10:52
slashx1896host:/media/cdrom0$10:53
HowardDrakeyou're back at the prompt10:53
aimlessI set up my mx510 using some tutorial on the forum, and i installed windows on a vmware virtual machine. how can i get my mx510 working as an mx510 in windows?10:53
HowardDrakethen do 'sudo ndiswrapper -l'10:53
slashx1896installed ndis drivers10:54
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slashx1896wmp11v27    driver present, hardware present10:54
HowardDraketada10:54
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samu2boa-chan, if you manage to install this scim input system you might get it to work. Right now it has trouble recognizing what I try to type.10:54
zhongduhanghello10:55
HowardDrakenow 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'10:55
aimlesswho's having ndiswrapper problems?10:55
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HowardDrakeI've been helping slashx189610:55
aimlessah10:55
bephi,10:55
HowardDrakeI think we've got it10:55
bepHello10:56
slashx1896Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper10:56
aimlesstook me three days to figure out how to work ndiswrapper properly if you include manually editing the /etc/network/interfaces file10:56
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bepsomebody that speak spanish10:56
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MAPD.ws 6111310:56
samu2Can I remove openoffice1 now that breezy installed OO2 for me? And if so, what package(s) should I remove?10:56
HowardDrakewe're almost done10:56
MAPDoops10:56
HowardDrakeand in 2 hours10:56
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bepa moment please10:56
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aimlesssamu, go into synaptic and search open office10:56
slashx1896ok10:56
giany911lirc .. who can help me :((10:57
HowardDrakenow 'sudo ndiswrapper -hotplug'10:57
samu2aimless, yeah, but i dont wanna remove any packages that OO2 needs by accident10:57
aimlessyou won't10:57
slashx1896ok10:57
dpuppsomeone was asking about japanese in irc? 10:58
samu2aimless, think i just might10:58
aimlessah well10:58
HowardDrakecool, I might need Mandarin in about 2 weeks10:58
boa-chansamu2, whats the package name for scim10:58
bepAlguien habla espaol?10:58
boa-chanor w/e it was10:58
samu2there are a lot of packages called openoffice something10:58
slashx1896now what?10:58
Madpilotsamu2: you can remove all the basic OOo1 packages; if in doubt leave them10:58
HowardDrakewhat did you get?10:58
samu2boa-chan, i dont remember what i installed, i just googled for it.10:59
dpuppbep, yo hablo espan~ol.10:59
Madpilot!es10:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:59
slashx1896nothing happend just gave me another prompt10:59
boa-chani installed and ran the daemon10:59
boa-chanbut like10:59
boa-chandoes it have a gui10:59
dpuppthere we go :)10:59
boa-chanor something10:59
HowardDrakeit already did it10:59
slashx1896ok10:59
samu2boa-chan, well there's this language bar thing that you should be able to display by right-clicking where you are inputting text and changing the input method11:00
boa-chanon irc ?11:00
HowardDrakeso now you go 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'11:00
bephola, como cambio de servidor11:00
samu2boa-chan, for example11:00
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dpuppbep, /join #ubuntu-es11:00
slashx1896ok11:00
dpuppeso te cambiara de cannal.11:00
bepok. muchas gracias11:00
bepya logr abrirlo.   Es la primera vez que entro a un canal IRC11:01
HowardDrakenow add these 2 lines to the bottom11:01
HowardDrake'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'11:01
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boa-chansamu2,11:01
boa-chanwhere does the gui show up11:01
HowardDrake'auto wlan0'11:01
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slashx1896under auto eth0?11:01
HowardDrakeyeah11:01
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HowardDrakeand leave a blank line11:02
HowardDrakeI like the cleanliness of it11:02
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slashx1896so do i11:02
HowardDrake:)11:02
bepno hay problema si me quedo curioseando11:02
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samu2boa-chan, somewhere on the screen. im not really an expert on using it, i can barely get it to work myself.11:02
HowardDrakeThen Ctrl-X11:02
boa-chanmine doesnt even show up at all11:02
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HowardDrakeand say yes to saving it11:03
boa-chanare you using gnome ?11:03
samu2yeah11:03
boa-chando you have a run on your gnome11:03
dpuppbep, no hay problemas, pero en este canal se habla mas el ingles. en el cannal #ubuntu-es se habla espan~ol.  por mi, eres bienvenido. pero no se de los otros.11:03
samu2maybe you need to relogin or something11:03
slashx1896ctrl x didnt do anytthing11:03
bepOk.    De donde eres?11:03
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boa-chansamu11:03
thebigearlHi @ all ! has anyone a idea howto install Ubuntu onto a USB-Stick ?11:04
boa-chanis there a run function on ur gnome11:04
HowardDrakesorryt11:04
samu2a run function?11:04
boa-chanyeh11:04
HowardDrakegot pico confused with gedit11:04
boa-chanlike run an ap11:04
slashx1896o ok11:04
HowardDrakedo Ctrl-S to save11:04
slashx1896what do i do then?11:04
HowardDrakeand Ctrl-Q11:04
slashx1896k11:04
HowardDraketo quit11:04
Shastaois there a way how I can pass say an SSH session running in an X shell (mrxvt to be specific) to a terminal?  I need to restart X but I don't want to lose my ssh connection.11:04
slashx1896ok11:05
slashx1896now wat11:05
samu2boa-chan, umm yeah. you can run apps.11:05
boa-channo i mean11:05
boa-chana run fuction11:05
HowardDrakenow all you need to do is 'sudo ifup wlan0'11:05
boa-chanwhere you type something in11:05
boa-chanand hit enter11:05
boa-chanand it runs it11:05
slashx1896ok11:06
HowardDrakeand you should be up11:06
samu2boa-chan,  you can do that in a terminal11:06
boa-chanyeh i know11:06
slashx1896should i try going to google now?11:06
aimlessMy router randomly refuses my connection attempts until I reboot. I use ndiswrapper, any ideas on getting around this problem?11:06
HowardDrakeyeah11:06
dpuppbep, en este cannal se hace ayuda technica. para reducir "ruido" se habla en el cannal #ubuntu-offtopic11:06
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boa-chani cant get scim to even show up11:06
boa-chanlol11:06
bepYo soy colombiano11:06
slashx1896yay!!!11:06
HowardDrakeI am good ;)11:06
slashx1896yes,yes u are11:07
HowardDrakenow all I need is a job :-D11:07
slashx1896:D11:07
aimlessanyone?11:07
bepouuuppsss11:07
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Sonderbladeis there an ubuntu package for bash-completion?11:07
HowardDrakeI'm pondering aimless11:07
HowardDrakehey slash, what city are you located in?11:08
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slashx1896walled lake michigan11:08
aimlessuhh ok11:08
slashx1896you?11:08
MadpilotSonderblade: do you mean bash tab-completion?11:08
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HowardDrakePhilly11:08
slashx1896kool11:08
boa-chansamu2,11:08
HowardDrakeyeah11:08
boa-chanwhat does this thing look like11:08
HowardDrakeI have a guru friend in Detroit11:08
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HowardDrakeand it looks like you're logging in on your new machine11:09
slashx1896_:D11:09
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SonderbladeMadpilot: yes, extended bash tab-completion11:09
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slashx1896_<--- me on desktop (ubuntu)11:09
boa-chanLaunching a SCIM process with x11...11:09
boa-chanGTK Panel of SCIM 1.0.211:09
boa-chanStarting as daemon ...11:09
boa-chani just cant see it11:09
boa-chanlol11:09
slashx1896<-- me on laptop (windows xp)11:10
HowardDrakecool11:10
MadpilotSonderblade: I've never had it not work (yet)11:10
aimlessahh, i want a laptop :(11:10
SonderbladeMadpilot: there's a bash-completion rpm but I haven't found any deb11:10
HowardDrakenow you can update your linux box11:10
pawanaimless: if you can't ping, reload the network bits with a script - is a workaround. How frequently does it happen?11:10
HowardDrakeactually I do have a Linux laptop11:10
HowardDrakebut its ancient11:10
slashx1896drake do u have msn or aim?11:10
HowardDrakegaim11:10
LassegsIs this the right place to get some help for my Ubuntu Laptop?11:10
HowardDrakeso AIM and yahoo11:10
aimlesspawan once a day at least. i can ping, but when i try to connect in firefox, it says 'connection refused by 192.168.1.1'11:10
HowardDrakelinksys router?11:11
MadpilotSonderblade: you'll have to ask someone who uses bash a lot more - sorry11:11
aimlessHowardDrake: yes, wrt54g11:11
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slashx1896wats ur screen name drake11:12
HowardDrake:-d11:12
pawanaimless: you reboot the router or your machine?11:12
HowardDrakeyahoo or aim?11:12
aimlesspawan: my machine11:12
slashx1896aim11:12
HowardDrakeI was thinking of a router firmware update11:12
HowardDrakehowardtdrake11:12
aimlessthat might work11:12
HowardDrakecheck your routers firmware11:12
aimlesshow11:12
HowardDrakeor you could go truly linux11:12
HowardDrakeand try using OpenWRT or HyperWRT11:13
soundrayACPI question: My /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty. Does this mean my board isn't supported?11:13
HowardDrakebasically linux for the router :-d11:13
aimlessi'm afraid I'd mess it up and be without a router11:13
pawanaimless : have you tried reloading the network bits without rebooting the machine?11:13
LassegsOk, anyone wanna spare 15 minutes to help me fix my minijack outlet on my ubuntu laptop, please msg11:13
aimlesspawan: i don't know how11:13
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pc22how do u network linux to linux?11:13
aftertafpc22:  tcp/ip11:14
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soundraypc22: Ethernet11:14
slashx1896ok i gotta get off this laptop11:14
pawanaimless: how did you get the network bits going? You can probabably kill it off with an ifconfig eth0 down, but probably best to reverse the order in which you built the stuff up. Then reload again.11:14
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HowardDrakeaimless what about a ifdown eth011:15
pawanaimless: and then see if it works. If it does, well, then you can script it.11:15
aimlesspawan: i just have it on auto at boot11:15
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HowardDrakefollowed with a ipup?11:15
HowardDrakeifup11:15
aimlesshuh11:15
aimlessi've never had to do any commands or anything, i just put 'auto wlan0' and 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' in my /etc/network/interfaces' file11:16
sherzhi I have trouble with konqi and media files look here11:16
sherzhttp://sherz.pastebin.com/44074311:16
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pawanaimless : does ndiswrapper work at boot by itself?11:16
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pawanaimless : ah. ok11:16
pc22soundray, i meant how do i see other pc's folders11:16
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sherzI have also trouble to play medias in ff 1,511:17
aimlesspawan: yes, ndiswrapper works by itself at boot11:17
j-a-pAm I being heard?11:17
aimlessyes j-a-p11:17
pc22i have a network now of ubuntu pcs but iwant to see their files too11:17
j-a-paimless: thank you.11:17
pawanaimless : so I would figure out how to restart your networking stuff. Probably /etc/init.d/networking restart    - see if that does it11:17
pawanaimless : if it does, then it's a glitch in the ndis or windows driver11:18
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aimlesspawan, should i sudo?11:18
_mosshow do i get latest KDE11:18
_mosserrr sorry11:18
_mosswrong room11:19
soundraypc22 be with you in a sec11:19
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pawanaimless : you can even test it out now. (yes, you need root to: /etc/init.d/networking restart11:19
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scofieldhello11:19
pc22soundray, thanks11:19
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ubuntu_noobhi hi.11:20
pawanif you are still connected, and the command gave no funny error type output, then the thing restarted without a problem.11:20
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pawanaimless : in which case you can try it when the connection dies.11:20
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holycowanyone here use quanta plus?11:21
samu2How do you grab a screenshot in ubuntu?11:21
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holycowis it possible to preview a php include for example?11:21
pawanaimless : and if you are feeling really inspired, you can even build a script to test for when connectivity has gone, and restart it automatically.11:21
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soundraypc22, I take it you have the low-level stuff all connected. Tried pinging?11:21
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pc22yeah there is a connection11:22
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HowardDrakegotta run11:22
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soundraypc22, in System-Administration, there is a section "Shared Folders"11:22
Madpilotholycow: running an Apache/PHP/MySQL stack is easy enough on an Ubuntu machine, if you want to watch PHP in action11:23
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pawansoundray: shared folders works over samba?11:23
pc22soundray, with internet. i print using cups. but i want to see folders of the other pc11:23
soundraypc22, declare your shares in there. If you have Breezy, it'll tell you if you need any extra packages installed.11:23
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slashx1896_good nite all, and thanks drake for the help11:23
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holycowMadpilot, of course, i'm testing out the wysiwyg functionality of quanta11:23
pc22cool, u have time to walk me through?11:23
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soundraypc22, shared folders sets up Samba as well as NFS.11:23
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sherzok I want to install the ne RC of ff it is better to remove the old before ?11:24
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pawanaimless looks like he got disconnected ;-)11:24
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pc22we use samba even for linux to linux?11:25
stevejesushey guys11:25
stevejesusday 2 with the new 64bit laptop.  this is so fantastic11:25
ubuntu_noobi've got a question about getting libdvdcss installed, to be more exact, something with compiling is going wrong.  anyone know much about installing libdvdcss?11:25
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soundraypc22, either that or NFS11:25
kvidellubuntu_noob: uh.. apt-get install libdvdcss2 usually works for me.11:25
kvidellthere areason you can't do that?11:26
pc22ok11:26
pawanpc22: there are other ways. nfs is the old unixy way.11:26
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stevejesusubuntu_noob, i just built it an hour ago on my new laptop, but it work ok.  what kind of errors are you getting?11:26
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soundraypc22, I personally use ssh and scp for practically everything.11:26
ubuntu_noobkvidell, mm.  i think i tried that, but i'll try again.  though, i should know how to compile stuff, someday too, if i'm ever to get the hang of linux.11:26
sherzHow can  I remove ff extension by hand ?11:26
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sherzbecause I get always the message the the will removed after restart but nothing happend11:27
pc22whats the graphical way?11:27
soundraypc22, but then my machines are all pretty much standalone.11:27
stevejesusyou guys should pick up cxoffice 5.0.  it works so well and so fast in 64-bit.  its worth it just for the flash and shockwave plugins for 64-bit browsers11:27
ubuntu_noobstevejesus:  the compile error i get is ...'checking for C compiler default output file name... configure:  error:  C compiler cannot create executables...11:27
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stevejesusflash in cxoffice 5 is so good11:27
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boa-chansamu2, do you know how to kill scim ?11:27
stockubuntu_noob, for most software it's just, tar xzfv software.tar.gz; cd software; ./configure; make; sudo make install11:27
stockso not a lot to compiling stuff on your own11:28
stevejesusubuntu_noob, the lazy kix   sudo apt-get install gcc*11:28
stevejesusfix*11:28
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stevejesusif any of you guys need good flash in ubuntu 64, get cxoffice 511:28
ubuntu_noobstevejesus:  hmm.  just gcc?  i thought i got all i needed a moment ago, i'll give that another shot.11:28
redguystevejesus, ubuntu_noob: or is it sudo apt-get install build-essential11:29
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kvidellmm... actually, in addition to or instead of stevejesus' recomendation, ubuntu_noob, try apt-get install build-essential11:29
kvidellthat'll get you everything.11:29
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ubuntu_noobkvidell; redguy:  ok, i'll give that a try.11:29
pc22what do i do now?11:30
stevejesussudo apt-get install libdvdread311:30
stevejesus     sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh11:30
stevejesusthat what i did, as per the wiki11:30
bachstudiesAfter updating Ubuntu 5.10, the boot splash screen now shows kubuntu. Does anyone know how to fix this?11:31
ubuntu_noobah.  good deal.  the build-essential looks like it got me what i needed to ./configure11:31
holycowbachstudies, remove the usplash kde artwork11:31
kofjhello11:31
bachstudiesholycow, thanks very much...although I have no idea how it got there in the first place!11:32
soundraypc22, decide between NFS and Samba (supported well in Ubuntu) or look up 'network file systems ubuntu' on Google.11:32
holycowbachstudies, lol sounds weird indeed, i found out the hard way my self11:32
j-a-pAnyone know how to make a boot disk with support for Wireless, USB and DHCP?11:32
stevejesusbachstudies, i have the same thing, but on purpose.  i installed ubuntu, and then installed kubuntu-desktop via apt.  then ofcouse i told it to use kdm instead of gdm11:33
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stevejesusbachstudies, you just need to re-enable gdm and you will be fine11:33
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xoredhow to delete a save xsession ? When i login into xfce he still shows me the 2 sessions11:34
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soundrayj-a-p, what's wrong with Ubuntu Live?11:34
bachstudiesholycow, when I try to remove the kubuntu part of usplash it also tells me i have to remove KDE desktop which I don't really want to do11:34
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bachstudiesstevejesus, how do you re-enable gdm?11:34
stevejesusbachstudies, just re-enable gdm11:35
stevejesusthats all11:35
holycowbachstudies, its okay, that is just a fake meta package11:35
j-a-psoundray: I need to enable a USB Wireless dongle - I'm trying to get a Diskless LTSP Thin Client going.11:35
holycowkde desktop just pulls in all the other kde packages, if you uninstall that you uninstall nothing else11:35
bachstudiesholycow, great thanks11:35
holycowbachstudies, that is why that package is there, because you have kde desktop installed11:35
pc22soundray, i guess i start with samba11:36
bachstudiesbut i installed that ages ago...and the ubuntu boot splash was on yesterday. Suddenly today, it isn't!11:36
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stevejesusbachstudies, i believe the config file is in /etc/sysconfig.desktop11:37
stevejesusbachstudies, from there it will be self-explanitory11:37
ubuntu_noobyay. dvd works11:37
viper111hello guys11:38
soundraypc22, good choice. Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19280 and other forum threads for more guidance.11:38
aimless`i got a kernel panic when i hit enter pawan11:38
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soundrayj-a-p, I'd look on the LTSP sites for help with that.11:39
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viper111i need dome help about 2 laptops having wireless net cards having ip add in the same range but they are not seing wach other  (ubuntu OS) does any 1 have an idea about ??11:39
ubunturafayeee11:39
soundrayviper111, are you using an access point?11:40
LassegsMy minijack outlet on the Intel-hda soundcard isnt working at all. ive read the wiki on ubuntulinux.com, it doesnt say anything, ive played around with alsamixer, but that didnt help. i dont know what to do? please help11:40
pc22soundray, i have a static ip internal network11:40
stevejesusalright, now to fool ndiswrapper on my x64 and hopefully, i will be able to use this acer wireless card11:40
viper111soundray, no11:40
viper111:D11:40
soundrayviper111, have you set wireless-mode to ad-hoc?11:41
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kvidellit's only B, but it's nice.11:42
viper111soundray, no how can i do that11:42
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aimless`wine is being stupid11:42
aimless`i get this error when i type wine or try to run things with wine11:43
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stevejesusanyone here have any experience with the SiS sound on these new Aces?  the output it SO low.11:43
aimless`aimless@what:~$ wine11:43
aimless`wine: chdir to /home/aimless/.wine/wineserver-what : No such file or directory11:43
aimless`i could probably make the directory, but it would just give me another error.11:43
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redguyaimless`: tried running winecfg?11:44
soundrayviper111, I can't give you detailed help, but you need the wireless-tools package.11:44
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viper111ok i'll try to search for it rite??11:45
soundrayviper111, just apt-get install wireless-tools11:45
stevejesusviperIII, after you install wireless tools, there are all sorts of things that you can do with the iwconfig command11:45
viper111soundray, its installed11:45
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soundrayviper111, read the docs. Start with /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian11:46
onkarshindeMy dad's laptop runs hoary currently. I want to test its bluetooth but I don't have any other bluetooth device. Can the testing be done with some kine of loopback or similar thing?11:46
viper111soundray, 10x man for ur help i'll read it11:46
Seveasonkarshinde, no11:46
Seveasand bluetooth is only sort-of working in breezy with the dapper gnome-bluetooth packages...11:47
aimless`err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '../drive_c'11:47
soundrayIf /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty, does it mean my sensors aren't supported?11:48
onkarshindeSeveas: It is HP laptop and I installed HP Custom CD of hoary on it. Anyway, I will upgrade it once I have broadband connection at my hometown. Or will have to bring laptop to my worktown11:48
aeon17xsoundray: it means your sensor don't exist AT ALL =P11:48
soundrayaeon17x, the BIOS shows temps, though.11:49
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soundrayIs there a way to supply motherboard info to the ACPI subsystem, so it'll find the sensors?11:51
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redguysoundray, aeon17x: i seem to have a similar situation11:52
jerihello11:52
soundrayredguy, what's your board?11:52
onkarshindejeri: Hi11:53
jerijavascript:runMClick('irc://irc.101-freedom.org/pluto');11:53
jerijoin/efnet11:53
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redguysoundray: hmm, an old MSI. gonna check11:54
soundrayredguy, MSI here, too. Have you tried mbmon?11:54
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j-a-psoundray: Already done that - useless.11:55
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jerihelp?11:55
redguysoundray: erm, not even a msi, I've got an ecs k7s5a11:55
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aimless`Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". <----i get that when i typed winecfg11:56
soundrayredguy, I have temp readouts working on another machine with that precise board.11:56
aimless`is that bad?11:56
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redguysoundray: hyrm, but my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty as well11:56
soundrayredguy, ... with mbmon11:57
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redguysoundray: will check11:57
soundrayj-a-p, is it a CD you want to boot from?11:58
soundrayj-a-p, the best way to build a specialized boot CD is to download Knoppix and modify that according to your needs.11:59
soundrayj-a-p, lots of info on the web about the subject.11:59
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soundrayj-a-p, DSL is a slimmed down variant of Knoppix, but it only runs 2.412:00
soundrayj-a-p, still you might get your dongle working with it.12:01
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ubuntusalve12:06
JBBAI can't get ubuntu to open ANY of the admin feature from the toolbar and i'm not even getting prompted for a password , any ideas12:06
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Br|ce'lo12:06
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JBBAAnyone at all....?12:07
soundrayJBBA, does sudo work on the command line?12:07
JBBAi dunno let me see...the terminal you mean?12:08
soundrayJBBA, yes12:08
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JBBAwhen i type sudo it shows stuff about the usage12:08
JBBAwhat do i do then?12:09
redguyJBBA: try 'sudo ls' for example12:10
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JBBAthen it shows something that says password and it wont let my type anything12:11
Br|ceJBBA: because it doesn't show little stars doesn't mean you can't type12:11
kofjja ,du hast Recht.   you should type your root password12:11
JBBAno it wont type at all12:11
Br|ceJBBA: just type your password then press enter12:11
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soundrayJBBA, it'll let you type, it just won't echo for security.12:12
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redguyJBBA just enter your password and hit enter12:12
krak`nixanyone know how i can change the number of desktops12:12
JBBAokay that worked should that fix it?12:12
krak`nixwithout using the panel addon12:12
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JBBAOkay that didn't help the thing still wont pull up it will start to then it just dissapears12:13
soundrayJBBA, type gksudo xlogo and see if it opens a password dialog12:13
JBBAkay12:13
JBBAno it dosen't pull up one12:14
JBBAoh...wait12:15
JBBAnope none12:15
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soundrayJBBA, is gksu installed?12:15
JBBAdoes ubuntu 5.10 come with it?12:15
soundrayJBBA, it normally does.12:16
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JBBAokay. then where would i look to see if i have it....i'm relly new to linux12:16
soundrayJBBA, type dpkg -l gksu12:16
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soundrayJBBA if the last line starts with ii, then it is installed.12:16
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JBBAit said it failed to find it12:17
soundrayJBBA, okay, do 'sudo apt-get install gksu'12:17
JBBAis that an l or an I12:17
lypanovI12:18
onkarshindeJBBA: l as in language12:18
onkarshindeI suppose12:18
soundrayJBBA, onkarshinde, no ii as in 'install/installed' (dpkg -l output)12:19
onkarshindeJBBA: How many users have you created?12:19
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soundrayonkarshinde, irrelevant as long as he hasn't got gksu installed.12:19
JBBAi have two and i want to deleat the other one and stay on this one12:19
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JBBAand it is installed12:20
redguysoundray: why would't he have it installed?12:20
Crackboh12:20
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soundrayredguy, he said it "failed to find it"12:20
JBBAit is installed i typed the wrong thing12:20
onkarshindesoundray: May be he is trying from the one is not a sudoer. I was going to say that. But it seems opposite12:20
soundrayredguy, onkarshinde, I see.12:20
Cracko my gad12:21
JBBAWHO HOO IT IS INSTALLED I TYPED THE WRONG THING12:21
JBBAit is!!!!112:21
JBBAwhat do i do now?12:21
onkarshindeJBBA: Is the current user you are logged in as the first user created during login process?12:21
JBBAyes12:21
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redguyJBBA: what groups this user is in ?12:22
JBBAJared Bash12:22
boa-chansamu2, you get it working ?12:22
onkarshindeJBBA: What admin task do you want to accomplish?12:22
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JBBAi want to deleat the other user ...and i want to get it to pull up the admin tasks it wont even open them12:22
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soundrayJBBA, to answer redguy's question, type groups12:23
JBBA...ummmm.... i got gksu xlogo to work12:24
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redguyhrm, which brings another question: is there any place in which ubuntu usergroups are explained12:24
JBBAi was typing the wrong thing12:24
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samu2boa-chan, no, i dont really need it to work right now. so i cant be bothered to try and solve it for myself either.12:25
onkarshinderedguy: Not sure. But this is not about groups I suppose. If the user is listed in /etc/sudoers then he can do admin task. This is my opinion.12:25
JBBAand it keeps telling me wrong password12:25
boa-chani got something working12:25
boa-chantell me if this come sin12:25
boa-chan12:25
onkarshindeJBBA: Which password are you typing?12:25
JBBAthw password i set for this account12:25
redguyboa-chan: I see some wierd characters...12:26
boa-chanlol12:26
JBBAits chineese12:26
boa-chanyou need the right charset12:26
boa-chanits japanese actually12:26
JBBAOh12:26
onkarshindeJBBA: Ok. Just do this once. 'less /etc/sudoers |grep username' Insert current username in place of username.12:27
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AstxistI can see it!12:27
boa-chanheh12:27
mjrboa-chan,  12:27
Astxistand it looks cool, but I have no idea what it says12:27
boa-chan./charset iso-2022-jp12:27
boa-chanmjr use this form12:27
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mjrumm, I think I formed that verb-form a bit incorrectly, but anyway :)12:27
boa-chan12:27
boa-chanit's the correct form for that12:28
mjrindeed12:28
redguyJBBA: type groups and see if group 'admin' is listed12:28
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boa-chan12:28
JBBAall it says is jaredb12:28
boa-chan12:28
kwtm1Kombanwa, minasan.  Seems like we're going for the East Asian languages tonight.12:29
redguyso I have japanese fonts in my system?12:29
Mabus06weird, I thought I didnt have that language pack12:29
Mabus06I dont know if thats Japanese redguy12:29
boa-chanohayou gozimasu kwtm112:29
boa-changozaimasu*12:29
onkarshindeJBBA: Please do as I said regarding that /etc/sudoers file12:29
JBBAit said no file or directory12:29
boa-chanim tryping in japanese12:29
boa-chansamu2, you want the program im using?12:29
boa-chanboa-chan  <-- can anyone understand that?12:30
redguyJBBA: well, that's your problem propably.12:30
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Mabus06I could have sworn I went through expert install and didn't install unneeded things like japanese....12:30
onkarshindeJBBA: Then first 'slocate sudoers' and then use that path. This is somewhat tidious, but I don't remember exact path to that file12:30
kwtm1How do I set up my deb sources so that it will recognize a directory on my hard drive as a potential source of deb pkgs?  For example, if I've downloaded a bunch of deb packages, or dpkg has automatically downloaded a bunch of packages into /var/cache/apt as part of installation, and I stick it under ~/zip/debs or something?12:31
bringfriedhelo friends, may I intrude?12:31
redguyJBBA: the user you created during the install is the other user, isn't it?12:31
boa-chanjapanese is needed12:31
boa-chanheh12:31
JBBAno12:31
mjrboa-chan,    12:31
Mabus06bringfried, never ask to ask a question. Ask it.12:31
boa-chani think  iused some wrong kanji12:31
boa-chani said12:31
boa-chanwatashi no senmon wa nihongo desu yo.12:31
kwtm1boa-chan: I think it says "watashi ... somebout nihongo desu ... ne?  "12:31
boa-chanmy kanji is weak12:31
boa-chani never used ne12:31
bringfriedI am new aut ubuntu- for that amtter at linus and have many questions12:31
boa-chanheh12:31
Mabus06boa-chan, your japanese makes as much sense to me as the screwed up characters I'd see if I didn't have japanese installed. ;-)12:31
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mjrmy kanji is _very_ weak. I did recognize the "watashi" tho :)12:31
kwtm1mjr said " iie, wakarimasen"?12:31
boa-chanlol12:32
boa-chani know12:32
mjrkwtm1, yes12:32
onkarshindeboa-chan: mjr: #ubuntu-offtopic please12:32
boa-channo, i don't understand12:32
boa-chanheh12:32
mjrthough yeah, this is really -offtopic stuff12:32
redguyonkarshinde: 1. /etc/sudoers isn't system readable. 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo says that users in the admin group are able to use sudo12:32
Mabus06bringfried, just ask them12:32
mjrI'll stop here now12:32
soundrayonkarshinde, slocate won't show /etc/sudoers12:32
boa-chanyeh12:32
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Glossaryhow can i force my cd rom to eject from console???12:32
bringfriedI need a printer driver and don't know where to find the proper one.12:32
boa-chan12:32
onkarshindesoundray: And why not?12:32
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soundrayonkarshinde, to a non-privileged user12:32
Glossaryhow can i force my cd rom to eject from console???12:33
samu2boa-chan, that works12:33
boa-chanyou want the app ?12:33
redguyJBBA: what is dislayed when you enter 'groups the_oteher_user'12:33
Mabus06bringfried, try looking on the website of your printer's vendor (ie: lexmark)... that isn't really a ubuntu related question ;-)12:33
soundrayonkarshinde, anyway I suspect his /etc/sudoers is okay, given that sudo ls worked.12:33
onkarshindeJBBA: Most probably the user in which you have logged in doesn't have admin privileges. So log in to another user you have, assign admin privileges to this user and then delete another user. (kind of confused, isn't it;-))12:33
JBBAyes...12:34
JBBAokay let me try that12:34
bringfriedmy printer is a lexmark Z13. Thea oofer drivers for red har and suse bur nor foe ubuntu. Is it possible to use one of these?12:34
xoredhow to delete a save xsession ? When i login into xfce he still shows me the 2 sessions12:34
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onkarshindebringfried: Didn't Ubuntu auto detect it?12:34
Mabus06Yes, bringfried12:34
Mabus06Get alien to convert debian packages to ubuntu.12:34
Glossaryhow can i force my cd rom to eject from console???12:35
Br|ceeject /dev/hdc12:35
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Mabus06Glossary, we heard your question the first time, wait until someone knows12:35
boa-chantype eject12:35
onkarshindeMabus06: You mean convert rpm to deb using alien12:35
boa-chanon a terminal12:35
Mabus06Oh, well there you go12:35
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Br|ce(provided that hdc is your driver)12:35
Mabus06errr, yeah lol12:35
samu2boa-chan, the app?12:35
Glossary Mabus06 Br|ce  this doesnt work.. it wont eject12:35
boa-chanthat im using for input12:35
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redguyGlossary: eject /dev/cdrom12:35
Mabus06Glossary, I just tried it and it owrked12:35
bringfriedNo ubuntu did not autodetect it. This perticular printer isn't even listed in the drivers list.12:35
Mabus06How do you close it again?12:35
boa-chanGlossary, right click on cdrom icon, hit eject12:36
Mabus06bringfried, is it a dell printer?12:36
Br|ceGlossary: did "eject" throw you any error ?12:36
bringfriedNo, et is a Lexmark Z1312:36
Mabus06after typing "eject" what closes it again?12:36
redguybringfried: tried looking in linuxprinting.org?12:36
Mabus06z13 should be installed on ubuntu I thought.12:36
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soundrayMabus06, mounting should close the drive.12:37
redguyMabus06: eject -t /dev/cdrom12:37
martinjh99Morning - Which package do I need to install for php in Apache 1 server??12:37
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bringfriedlinuxprinting.org. Good idea. will try it12:37
Mabus06thanks redguy12:37
Mabus06kind of a neat, pointless trick but thanks12:37
Mabus06lol12:37
keUhm12:37
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boa-chananyone got a xmms xchat script12:38
keIsn't fluxbox in apt?12:38
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onkarshindebringfried: Instead install foomatic, if it is not installed already.12:38
] SW[Shadow-Awayhey i need help with installing ubantu12:38
soundrayke, yes it is in universe12:38
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] SW[Shadow-Awayhow do i create a completely new partition without destroying anything else?12:39
] SW[Shadow-Awayi want it at about 5gb12:39
] SW[Shadow-Awaythats all12:39
onkarshindebringfried: Exactly what you want to know : http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z1312:39
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onkarshinde] SW[Shadow-Away: Ubuntu installer can resize your existing partition.12:39
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Uzaiyarouha12:39
Uzaiyarobut i want to create a completely new one12:40
Uzaiyaroleaving the other one untouched12:40
redguyUzaiyaro: you got free space?12:40
kevinzi have a question not about ubuntu. That is why do some other distribution use shell other than bash? i feel bash so good.12:40
Uzaiyarothink so12:40
kesoundray, uhm, how do I get that?12:40
Uzaiyaro(CPU) 1-AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+, 1802MHz (0% Load) .:. (RAM) usage: 500/768MB (65.10%) .:. (GFX) RADEON 9600 PRO SEC Family (Microsoft Corporation), (Display) 1280x1024/32bit/60Hz12:40
Uzaiyaro(OS) Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), (uptime) 1h 13m 26s .:. (HDDs) 15.8GB/55.9GB(28.3%) free12:40
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Uzaiyaro(HDDs) (showing free space), C:\ (INSERT SPAM HERE) 15.8GB/55.9GB(28%) (Local total) 15.8GB/55.9GB (28.3%)12:40
Uzaiyarothat enough?12:40
redguy!tell Uzaiyaro about pastebin12:41
mulderenough what?12:41
onkarshindeUzaiyaro: No. This is free space on your existing partition. We are talking about unpartitioned space12:41
soundray!tell ke about repositories12:41
Uzaiyaro[ubotu]  redguy wants you to know: pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:41
Uzaiyarowell there is 8mb12:41
Uzaiyaroi try to resize that but nothing happens12:42
ke!sources12:42
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:42
soundrayke, read the message from ubotu12:42
keThanks12:42
bringfriedok. friends. I will say good bey here and have a look!12:42
soundrayke, you're too fast...12:42
onkarshindeUzaiyaro: Of course it is not sufficient. So you can move data from one of your existing partitions to another one. And delete that partition to create unpartitioned space.12:42
ke!sources12:42
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:42
keOk, thanks mate12:42
Uzaiyaroso12:43
Uzaiyarosorry im a complete nob at this12:43
Uzaiyaroso what ur saying12:43
Uzaiyarois to delete the 8mb one?12:43
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onkarshindeUzaiyaro: Read my reply ^^^12:43
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onkarshindeUzaiyaro: Consider you have 4 partitions in windows, C, D, E, F. One of them is at least 5 GB (eg. F). Move whatever data is on F to some another partition, say C. Delete F from Windows XP's Computer Manager tool12:45
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ke!universe12:45
ubotufrom memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list12:45
Uzaiyarok12:45
onkarshindeUzaiyaro: You have 5 GB of unpartitioned space. When you start installing Ubuntu, you can use this unpartitioned space to install Ubuntu.12:45
Uzaiyaroi have 2 partitions, one i dont know what it is its 8mb and the other, its 55.9gb12:46
Uzaiyarothat must be the cache12:46
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stan_can anyone help me with permissioons please?12:46
jhaaUzaiyaro buy a new hd?12:46
stan_I think I've just destroyed all my music12:46
Br|cetoo bad12:47
Uzaiyarojhaa: no12:47
jhaayou should be able to get used 20GB hd for less than 2012:47
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Uzaiyaroi just wanna create a seperate partition, i dont know how to do it in ubuntu setup12:47
redguyUzaiyaro: you have to rezise your partition then12:47
jhaaok :)12:47
onkarshindeUzaiyaro: That is what I was saying. You have just one partition. SO you will have to resize it. Ubuntu installer can do this for you. If you are not comfortable then use some tool like Partition Magic, although I would not recommend Partition Magic12:47
Uzaiyarook12:47
redguyUzaiyaro: where do you want to create a new partition? your windows partition takes up your entire drive!12:48
Uzaiyaronot entirely12:48
onkarshinderedguy: resize.12:48
Uzaiyaroi have 15gb free space12:48
redguyonkarshinde: darn, missed that :-)12:48
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Uzaiyaroso after i resize then what do i do for a new partition?12:49
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onkarshindeUzaiyaro: Right. But that space is free in already partitoned drive. You will have to create partition out of that. For that you need resizing.12:49
redguyUzaiyaro: you have 15GB free space *on* your windows partition12:49
stan_here'smy media drive ended up as root so I typed:12:49
stan_stan@mitx:~$ sudo chmod -R 666 /media/hdb112:49
onkarshindeUzaiyaro: After rezise, in installer itself you can just ask it to auto partition the 15 GB space.12:49
stan_& now nothing opens12:49
Uzaiyarook12:50
Uzaiyarothanks for the help12:50
keJust to get an overview.. What should one do after installing ubuntu? Add more sources to apt etc...?12:50
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stan_ke: after you have installed ubuntu you might want to try automatix12:51
stan_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656312:51
stan_it installs loads of media codecs & much needed apps :)12:51
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KASIHELP , need some info , can i install ubuntu with windows xp already on my system ???12:51
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keGreat, stan_, thanks :)12:52
redguyKASI: yes12:52
onkarshindeKASI: Sure you can. How much partitions do you have? Only one? Use Ubuntu's installer to resize that partition.12:52
stan_no problem - good luck :)12:52
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stan_it takes a while so you might want to get some tea & biscuits ready12:52
Chand|hi12:52
KASIi have 4 , and one containing windows xp wat i am using now #12:52
Chand|anyone on dapper ?12:53
ajmitch_Chand|: yes12:53
HobbseeChand|: yes12:53
stan_just breezy here12:53
Chand|i got many errors with totem (xine or gstreamer backend)12:53
Chand|i didnt find any report on bugzilla12:53
redguyKASI: then it's even easier. Delete one of your partitions and install ubuntu in there12:54
onkarshindeKASI: Then your biggest problem is solved. Just free up one of the partitions and delete it.12:54
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onkarshindeChand|: Read the topic.12:54
kbrooksQuestion for everyone.12:54
KKhow to enable dual channel sound support ??12:54
Chand|oh, sorry12:54
Chand|thx12:54
kbrooksI may be offtopic, so if I am, tell me to go next door12:55
onkarshindekbrooks: Go on12:55
KASIu mean i should format and even delete any single partition and then ubuntu will make it again to be installed on ?12:55
Chand|ok, i'll post a new bug12:55
Mabus06I tried to install wine before but I must have gotten an error or something partway through, as thats what it says when I try to install winetools12:55
onkarshindeKASI: Yup.12:55
KKhow to have multiple channel sound support ??12:55
Mabus06How do I uninstall it so I can reinstall, or conitnue with my installation?12:55
KKdoes ubuntu have one ??12:55
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Mabus06KK, does your sound card have it?12:56
KKyeah12:56
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KKworks fine in windoze12:56
xoredhow to install mplayer codecs under kubuntu ?12:56
onkarshindeKK: I suppose you don't need to enable it. What are you trying to do exactly? Do you have multichannel speaker system?12:56
Mabus06KK, well if your sound drivers are working properly then it should work right?12:56
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kbrooksIs "open  source"  / "free" software necessarily great? for example, i used non free (or is that commercial?) software to boot a LiveCD because qemu wouldnt do it properly.12:56
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KASIso can i access my other partitions in ubuntu to transfer or play some media files like mp3's etc ?12:56
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atrophicwhat's a command that will list all the directories in the current folder, but not anything else?12:57
onkarshindeKASI: First finish your job of installing Ubuntu. I am sure you will have many more questions and you will come back here.12:57
Mabus06I tried to install wine before but I must have gotten an error or something partway through, as thats what it says when I try to install winetools. How do I either undo that installation or continue with it?12:57
kbrooksAnyone?  :)12:57
KKMabus06: i am gettin error while playin some music files when gaim is running12:57
KASIok thanx12:57
onkarshindeatrophic: I suppose ls -d should do.12:57
RobbsterLo all. I need to compile Putty for Breezy (some custom enhancements). Where do I get the source for the ubuntu version?12:57
Mabus06oh, KK, that could be because gaim plays sounds12:57
atrophiconkarshinde, I thought so too, but it doesn't... just shows one line with a single dot on it12:58
kbrooksRobbster, apt-get source12:58
onkarshindekbrooks: You mean qemu on windows didn't work properly, right?12:58
KKMabus06: error that my sound card has not been configured properli12:58
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Robbsterkbrooks: as opposed to apt-get install ?12:58
onkarshindeatrophic: Are there any subdirectories?12:58
Mabus06KK, make sure you have the right drivers installed then.12:58
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atrophiconkarshinde, yes12:58
onkarshindeRobbster: And why do you need putty?12:59
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KKMabus06: my sound card has been detected by default by ubuntu12:59
KKMabus06: and drivers too12:59
KKMabus06: got by default12:59
Robbsteronkarshinde: custom gov't crap. They use a putty specific key and I therefore need putty to work with them. :(12:59
Mabus06KK, make sure you have the latest ones... just because it was "detected" doesn't mean you have the right one12:59
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KKwhere to get ??01:00
onkarshindeKK: Then this is not about multi channel support. Go to meny System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector and select alsa instead of OSS or ESD01:00
KKwhat does this do ??01:00
KKand why am i gettin that problem ??01:01
onkarshindeKK: ALSA is 'Advanced Linux Sound Architecture', a sound framework providing sharing of sound card between applications, and drivers are also quite good.01:01
KKyeah i know that...01:02
atrophiconkarshinde, ls -l */ does the trick though, thanks01:02
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onkarshindeatrophic: Hey, Did you try 'ls -D'?01:02
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KKonkarshinde: when im trying to test..im gettin an error that construction of pipeline for alsa has failed01:03
onkarshindeKK: Since you first launched gaim hwich uses default sound system, that is ED in most cases, it blocked sound card.01:03
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qt2hullo hullo o>01:03
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onkarshindeKK: One more thing. Go to terminal and type command 'killall esd'. Also disable sound server startup from Preferences->Sound menu.01:04
onkarshindeqt2: What is that?01:04
atrophiconkarshinde, that lists more than just the directories.  'ls -d */' works though01:05
KKonkarshinde : why ??01:05
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kbrooksonkarshinde, no, i didnt mean on windows01:05
kbrooksi meant on ubuntu01:05
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KKonkarshinde: im not gettin sounds on gaim when xmms is being played01:06
onkarshindekbrooks: Then I don't know. I actually never used any emulator to test linux. I just stopped using Windows (and that was almost 2 years ago.01:06
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onkarshindeKK: ESD blocks your sound card. There is some workaround, But I don't know about it.01:07
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qt2onkarshinde: what is what? :P01:07
KKonkarshinde: how to get to know abt it ??01:07
onkarshindeKK: 'man esd' perhaps01:08
KKonkarshinde: i did what u asked me to do01:08
KKonkarshinde: killall esd and disable sound server startup...01:08
KKonkarshinde: what effect does that have ??01:08
qt2ESD is on of the few major problems left with ubuntu imho.01:08
qt2KK: there is a lot of esd info on the forums.01:08
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ximi am downloading the new ubuntu, the breezy badger, what is the difference01:09
KKqt2 : where are the forums ?? url ??01:09
Happufnew gnome for example01:09
oNe^somewheredoes any1 know much about streaming here ?01:09
onkarshindeKK: It stops ESD daemon. You may try restarting GAIM.01:09
Hobbsee!ubuntuforums01:09
ubotuHobbsee: Bugger all, i dunno01:09
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onkarshindexim: Tell me what you are, a user or developer or a geek? And I will tell differences.01:10
oNe^somewhereor how to install oddcast properly01:10
onkarshindeoNe^somewhere: What do you want to do?01:10
yatesywhy can't you be a user and a geek? :/01:10
oNe^somewherei want to dj from my pc01:10
ximuser, for the most part i am bored with windows and tried a few linux's and i love ubuntu01:10
Renskiand a developer01:10
KK!ubuntuforums01:10
ubotu[ubuntuforums]  at http://ubuntuforums.org/01:10
ximtrying to learn it still though01:10
onkarshindeyatesy: geek is superset, or rather universal set01:11
Renski<--user, developer, and geek01:11
yatesyheh01:11
nubbeI use ALSA and have some problems with gnome system sounds (cliping), no problem with xmms or totem or real. Any thoughts?01:11
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reterhow can i upgrade to breezy when i keep getting these error messages?01:11
qt2KK: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.ubuntuforums.org/&ei=1POKQ7DOE8n-4AHC5egv&sig2=PeCXRfpZVG5i-uSJYGMYkw01:11
qt2ack01:11
qt2KK: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/01:11
qt2lol01:11
Hobbsee!forum01:12
ubotuit has been said that forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org01:12
redguy!tell reter about pastebin01:12
reterpastebin is down01:12
qt2nubbe: probably something to do with ESD.01:12
onkarshindexim: Lots of Changes, Gnome 2.12.1, lots of updated applications.01:12
qt2reter: http://www.nomorepasting.com/01:12
oNe^somewhereonkarshinde,  i already dj from my windows system ...now i want to be able to do it from linux01:13
ximthanks, i will probably be camping here alot reading and learning off you guys01:13
nubbeqt2, is ESD used even if I have chosen ALSA?01:13
onkarshindexim: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/newsitems/release51001:13
redguyreter: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ then01:13
qt2xim: thats what 95% of the people here are doing ;)01:13
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onkarshindeoNe^somewhere: Sorry, can't help you. I don't know much about it.01:13
qt2nubbe: yep, alsa is the sound system, esd is the sound server.01:13
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nubbeqt2, k01:15
onkarshindeGreat news http://www.ubuntulinux.org/newsitems/newmedia Must read bu Ubuntu lovers01:15
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KKqt2: dint find any possible answer in the forums01:16
KKqt2: the problem is that...i am not gettin sounds in gaim while xmms is playing01:16
Robbstererm, installed the src with apt-get, now where is it?01:17
KKqt2: is not this a possible problem with dual channel ?01:17
reterhere are the error messages http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/515301:17
onkarshindeKK: What is output plugin in xmms?01:17
Kamping_Kaiseronkarshinde: cool news01:17
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KKonkarshinde: oss01:18
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Kamping_Kaisero_0 KK this could be confusiing ;)01:18
onkarshindeKK: Try changing to ALSA01:18
onkarshindereter: Which Ubuntu? 5.04 or 5.10?01:18
reter5.9401:18
reter0401:19
KKonkarshinde: wow!! working!!01:19
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ximand the only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu is one is kde and the other is gnome?01:19
williamguys I tried to follow the instructions to install Firefox 1.5rc3 and it didnt work so I did a complete removal of firefox and re-installed and now it wont come up01:19
onkarshindereter: And what are you trying to install?01:19
reterbreezy01:19
onkarshindexim: Yup.01:19
onkarshindereter: How?01:19
reterapt-get dist install01:19
reterbut i get error messages01:19
reterthen i tried apt-get -f install and i get more error messages01:20
onkarshindereter: apt-get dist-upgrade is correct way. It should solve all the problems.01:20
retersorry that is what i meant01:20
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reterapt-get dist-upgrade01:20
onkarshindereter: Have you already changed your sources.list to reflect Breezy repositories and Breezy CD?01:20
reteryes01:20
Robbsterwhere will the ubuntu source packages get installed to?01:21
reteri dont have the breezy cd01:21
Kamping_KaiserRobbster: working directory IIRC01:21
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retershould i get the breezy cd will that make it better?01:21
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onkarshindereter: Then you will have to download less packages. If you already have it then it is good. If not then continue as I said, since you in middle of upgrade01:22
Kamping_Kaiserreter: if you have the correct internet repos, shouldnt need a cd01:22
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onkarshindeRobbster: I suppose somewhere in /usr/src. I am not sure though.01:23
kvanttihi there..i wonder if anyone knows that site for solving the no sound problem under ubuntu in enemy territory..i once heard it, but cant remember01:23
pinkisntwellwhy is ubuntu gui so slow?01:23
reterhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5153 as i pointed out on here i get error messages when i try dist-install01:23
kvanttipiknisntwell maybe your hardware is not top notch???01:23
onkarshindepinkisntwell: How much memory?01:23
Kamping_Kaiserkvantti: try the forums?01:23
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pinkisntwell512MB ram, nvidia fx520001:24
onkarshindereter: That is why, I asked you for apt-get dist-upgrade01:24
Robbsteronkarshinde: nothing in /usr/src.01:24
Kamping_Kaiserpinkisntwell: i don't find it slow as a rule :O01:24
pinkisntwellcompared to windows it's literally night and day01:24
onkarshindeRobbster: I already said not sure about is.01:24
williamguys I tried to follow the instructions to install Firefox 1.5rc3 and it didnt work so I did a complete removal of firefox and re-installed and now it wont come up01:24
Robbsteronkarshinde: It installed to the working directory01:24
reteronkarshinde, i have done it 3 times already and i get error messages01:24
onkarshindepinkisntwell: I don't think it is slow. I also have 512 DDR RAM01:25
Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: using apt?01:25
pinkisntwellplus I can't get resolution bigger than 1024*768 and some emulators I tried cant get decent framerate on snes games01:25
williamyeah01:25
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randabispinkisntwell: you probably don't have your video setup correctly01:26
williamthe little tutorial made me link a bunch of stuff but Ive since marked it for complete removal01:26
Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: try --purge remove01:26
onkarshindereter: How much space is left on / directory? Try 'df -h'01:26
pinkisntwellbut the driver is installed01:26
randabisare you sure?01:26
pinkisntwellyes01:26
onkarshindepinkisntwell: Resolution you can add in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:26
williamKamping_Kaiser,  on top of apt-get?01:27
Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: yeh, apt-get --purge remove01:27
pinkisntwelli checked xorg.conf and it's got more resolutions but they wont show up in the gui config01:27
pinkisntwellplus it's already going slooow, i dont want to use it with a bigger resolution01:28
onkarshindepinkisntwell: What is your monitor size?01:28
reterFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on01:28
reter/dev/hda1             2.9G  2.8G     0 100% /01:28
retertmpfs                  62M     0   62M   0% /dev/shm01:28
reterdf: `/.dev': No such file or directory01:28
reternone                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  55% /dev01:28
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pinkisntwell15"01:28
onkarshindereter: Please use pastebin when you paste more than 2 lines. Anyways. First do 'sudo apt-get clean' then 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'01:29
onkarshindepinkisntwell: I don't know whether 15" monitor will support higher resolution.01:29
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williamKamping_Kaiser, I even re-installed firefox gnome support.. I mean when I click on the icon it becomes busy and then goes away01:30
Kamping_Kaiserwould anyone else find it desturbing if Xorg was using a config file from my home directory? not the one in /etc/X11/ ?01:30
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onkarshindewilliam: Try launching from termianl using command 'firefox' see if you get any error.01:30
reterits telling me to run apt-get -f install01:30
williamI get an Error onkarshinde, where can I paste it?01:31
Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: make sure you don't have any running in the background01:31
pinkisntwellit does support up to 1280x960 in windows01:31
Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: i had a person with 72 copies of openoffice on a server i admin01:31
Kamping_Kaiserbecause i twouldnt appear, so he clicked again01:31
onkarshindewilliam: some pastebin.01:31
williamnope no firefox loaded01:31
williamchecked top01:31
williamis there any other browser on Ubuntu?01:32
onkarshindereter: then do so. And see if it tries to uninstall anything.01:32
williamcause I cant get to pastebin on Firefox :P01:32
onkarshindewilliam: There is epiphany, and galeon (both not installed by default)01:32
Kamping_Kaiserrofl01:32
zelevwhi guys...i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and can dig, nslookup without any problems...nevertheless Firefox wont work...it can connect to websites if i give it the ip address but not by fqdn...where can i fix this? THANK YOU01:32
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Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: use #flood01:32
onkarshindewilliam: may be you can twy elinks or w3m (text browsers, if they are installed)01:32
qt2so, could someone recomend me a wifi card thats cheap, good, and complatible with ubuntu?01:32
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williamok I pasted it into #flood its weird01:33
ke5.04 = hoary?01:33
atrophicmy linksys wpc11 works well, but not right out of the box01:33
atrophicke, yes01:33
keOk01:34
onkarshindezelevw: May be something related to ipv6. You may have to change some option in firefox using its about:config. Not sure what the option is.01:34
zelevwonkarshinde: il have a look there...gracias01:34
pinkisntwellzelevw: you need to configure dns, do you know how to do it?01:34
williamKamping_Kaiser, did ya get to see it?01:34
onkarshindezelevw: pinkisntwell may be correct.01:34
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Kamping_Kaiserwilliam: no sorry, i was trying to help soeone in kubuntu801:35
BurgerMannHi :).. where would the X configuration file be?01:35
zelevwpinkisntwell...i can dig and nslookup..i checkd in network and have the right dns addresses01:35
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pinkisntwelland only firefox isnt working? did you try other internet apps?01:35
BurgerMannxorg.conf I guess ?01:35
onkarshindeBurgerMann: /etx/X11/xoprg.conf01:36
zelevwxchat works...email wont connect...gaim wont either01:36
aftertafzelevw:  search for IPv6 in about:config ans set it to true01:36
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spermixhello01:36
onkarshindewilliam: which version of firefox are you trying to load? How did you install it?01:36
williamI did the tutorial off the wiki for 1.5RC301:37
williambut it didnt work01:37
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onkarshindewilliam: Lets continue it in #flood01:37
spermixonly english speek ?01:37
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williamk01:38
spermixitanliano?01:38
spermixitaliano?01:38
BurgerMannonkarshinde: thanx bud :)01:38
zelevwaftertaf: network.dns.disableIPv6 was set to false...fixed!  THANK YOU01:38
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JimmyJoHallo01:38
JimmyJospricht hier jemand deutsch?01:38
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basi just upgraded to breezy and even though i have xfonts-artwiz installed they dont show up anymore in xlsfonts.. any ideas?01:38
basanyone else having the same problem?01:39
spermixnein01:39
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aftertaf!de01:39
ubotufrom memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de01:39
aftertafzelevw:  and does it change anything?01:39
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qt2zelevw: does gaim work?01:40
zelevwaftertaf: YES...FIREFOX works now...thank you... any ideas on how i can get Evolution to connect?  is there any way to disable ipv6 altogher?01:40
DRAGON_Ultramine does01:40
kbrooksi'll blog now...01:40
zelevwqt2: gaim doesnt work01:40
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TenPlus1Hi folks...01:41
drcodehi all01:41
zelevwaftertaf: can i delete ff00::0, fe00::0 , etc...?01:42
drcodeany one know irc channel of netcat?01:42
JimmyJocan somebody help me01:42
TenPlus1Has anyone had any luck configuring an ASUS WL-138g wireless card yet ???01:42
wickedpuppydrcode, i don't think netcat will have its own channel01:42
JimmyJoT-sinus 154 Data II HELP ME PLEASE01:43
onkarshindeJimmyJo: If you will state your question. Only crying for help wont get you any help.01:44
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JimmyJook sorry when i want to install the driver with ndiswrapper i became the message that the driver is invalid01:44
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TenPlus1Q.) I boot Ubuntu Live CD 5.10 on my bro's pc and it wont boot... does it support SATA01:44
mirakin theory in wich file should I add the PATH variable values ? .bash_profile or .bashrc ?01:44
onkarshindeJimmyJo: Which card?01:45
JimmyJo T-sinus 154 Data II01:45
JimmyJousb01:45
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drgrebornhello. Could soemone help me out with a pcmcia question on Kubuntu?01:45
JimmyJoi use the driver from the original install cd01:45
qt2zelevw: you want to disable ipv6, correct?01:45
zelevwqt2: yessir01:45
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jszHi, Im using Ubuntu server mode install and I just install ipmasq to share my connection01:45
jszdoes that mean it's firewalled too?01:45
jszor do I need to install seperate firewall?01:46
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onkarshindemirak: I don't remember which one is for wht exactly, but one is for login shell config and other is not. For example opening terminal from desktop is not a login shell.01:46
qt2zelevw: mind if i pm you?01:46
JimmyJohave you any idea01:46
mirakah01:46
zelevwqt2: pm?01:46
mirakonkarshinde: I added the path in /etc/profile ...01:46
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qt2zelevw: private message01:46
zelevwqt2: sure01:46
drgrebornThe pcmcia card is an EDIMAX sdl-4103dl, the cd comes with a linux driver but I have some doubts on installing it. Perhaps someone has the same problem and can help me out? Sorry.01:46
onkarshindemirak: That will enable that particular path for all users01:47
qt2zelevw: k, check pm. ;)01:47
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JimmyJoits a usb t-sinus 154 Data II01:47
JimmyJow-lan adapter01:47
onkarshindeJimmyJo: Have you checked on http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/01:47
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JimmyJoyes01:48
drgrebornIs it common to have the /pcmcia-cs/ folder missing?01:48
onkarshindeJimmyJo: Try asking in forums.01:49
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aftertafdrgreborn:  treid dpkg-reconfigure pcmcia-cs ?01:49
qt2Could someone recomend me a wifi card thats cheap, good, and complatible with ubuntu?01:50
drgreborni cant connect to the net01:50
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drgrebornaftertaf: I cant connect to the net. is it possibel to do dpkg through the cd?01:50
TenPlus1qt2: pci or pcmcia ?01:50
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JimmyJoi do01:51
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belouwhy my ubuntu do not recognize the 'make' command ?01:51
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drgrebornaftertaf: perhaps i show you the readme file of th cd and perhaps you can tell me how to do it?01:51
_jasonbelou, install build-essential package01:51
Kamping_Kaiserhi aftertaf01:51
qt2TenPlus1: pci/pcie01:52
belou_jason, ok01:52
aftertafdrgreborn:  if the package is installed already, you can do it that way.... look on your cd, and with synaptic, is rhe package installed?01:52
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aftertafhi Kamping_Kaiser  :)01:52
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:52
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tomek_jojkl01:53
TenPlus1qt2: most Belkin or LinkSYS are pretty good01:53
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belou_jason, is it in the install menu?01:54
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onkarshindebelou: you will have to install it from synaptic or apt-get01:54
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belouonkarshinde, soo i need root pasword but the installation has not asked me to enter it01:56
qt2TenPlus1: what about netgear?01:56
Kamping_Kaiserhas anyone else come accross this problem? phpmyadmin not uninstalling? http://Kubuntu.pastebin.com/44084001:56
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zelevwdoes anyone know the root password in ubuntu 5.10? thx01:56
Kamping_Kaiser!tell zelevw about root01:57
thoreauputic!ootsudo01:57
ubotuthoreauputic: Do they come in packets of five?01:57
thoreauputic!rootsudo01:57
ubotuwell, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:57
TenPlus1qt2: NetGear and LinkSYS make good pci wi-fi cards that can be cheap and linux compat. the newer ones come with linux drivers and should already be supported01:57
belouok01:57
Kamping_Kaiserhi thoreauputic01:57
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thoreauputichi KK :)01:57
zelevwkamping_kaiser: thank u01:57
onkarshindebelou: This is where sudo somes in picture. The first user you created has some admin privileges using sudo' Typing a command 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' should to.01:57
Kamping_Kaiser:) np01:57
kbrookshttp://kbrooks.ath.cx/blog/01:57
belouonkarshinde, what a weird thing01:58
kbrooksAnyone like my latest blog entry?01:58
qt2TenPlus1: thank you very much.01:58
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qt2TenPlus1: so you're saying pretty much any negear/linksys card available at say, the local best buy, should work with ubuntu?01:59
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onkarshindebelou: No, It is not weird. Consider you are running as root and your system gets compromised through some open port, then it is open to one who hacks it.02:00
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TenPlus1qt2: should... check the ubuntu website for hardware compatibility if your unsure02:00
qt2TenPlus1: k.02:00
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drgrebornquestion: I can do the apt-get build essential from the cd?02:01
drgreborn*can I do ?*02:01
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thoreauputicdrgreborn:  sudo apt-get build-essential - and yes I think it's on the CD from memory02:02
thoreauputicoops02:02
thoreauputicsudo apt-get install build-essential02:03
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onkarshindedrgreborn: If you are sources.list has a CD entry into it, then apt-get will know what packages to install from CD.02:03
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mamoruhello. Is there a sound equalizer in ubuntu?02:03
belouonkarshinde, so i never log has root, just 'su', it is just disturbing for the first time of use02:03
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thoreauputicBeleys: you get used to it quite quickly :)02:04
TenPlus1is their an easy way to install Flash and Java without using console ???02:04
triablo_how to start-up ubuntu whitout gnome, only the console ?02:04
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thoreauputicbelou: sorry nick complete error02:04
triablo_how to start-up ubuntu whitout gnome, only the console ?02:05
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triablo_how to start-up ubuntu whitout X, only the console ?02:05
thoreauputictriablo_: stop repeating02:05
sexcopter8000mhi, i want to play the video clips on this site: http://psp.weebls-stuff.com/ but i get no sound. can anyone advise me what audio codec is needed and how to get it?02:05
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onkarshindebelou: If you are too tired of doing sudo every time, then there is 'Root Terminal' in Applications->System Tools02:06
belouthoreauputic, no problem, searching for cairo.pc in ubuntu for now02:06
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belouonkarshinde, cool stuff thanks02:06
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thoreauputictriablo_: one way is to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to false02:07
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onkarshindesexcopter8000m: I suppose they are mp3.02:07
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beloui'm searching for cairo-xcb.h does it come in one ubuntu package?02:07
thoreauputictriablo_: you can just comment out the line in that file - same effect02:08
onkarshindebelou: May be you will have to dev package for cairo02:08
drgrebornok how do I install the pcmcia-cs into kubuntu?02:08
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belouonkarshinde, i have : libcairo-dev02:09
drgrebornthere doesn't seem to be any folder in my /usr/lnux/02:09
sexcopter8000monkarshinde, but i can play mp3 no probs02:09
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GerrathWhat is the difference between /etc/modutils and /etc/modprobe.d ?  I have read several places were /etc/modprobe.d is where you put entries for mod-init-tools?  How do you know is something is loaded with the mod-init-tools?02:09
triablo_i installed the driver for my video card, and I want to load the fglrx module in kernel, the startx02:10
thoreauputic!ati02:10
ubotufrom memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1002:10
triablo_thats why I need the console02:10
onkarshindesexcopter8000m: Perhaps it asks for quicktime. May be you can try installing mozplugger which allows you opening files inside FF using external applications.02:10
GerrathI've looked at entries in both directories and they look like the same type of data.02:11
thoreauputictriablo_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:11
drgrebornoh one more thing is it possible to show the "home folder" etc on the desktop on KDE? Like in gnome?02:11
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pinkisntwellamybody know why suddenly video acceleration works for me? i mean suddenly, it wasn't working yesterday, now it does02:12
sexcopter8000monkarshinde, well i can normally play quicktime also without problems... :s02:12
sexcopter8000mis there not a programme to find codec info about a video file?02:12
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onkarshindesexcopter8000m: quicktime on linux?02:12
drgrebornonkarshinde: could i shwo you the readme for the linux driver for my pcmcia card? and maybe you could walk me through it? So sorry.02:12
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sexcopter8000monkarshinde, .mov files play fine, yes02:12
onkarshindesexcopter8000m: 'file -i filename' should give you mime type02:13
Gerrathahh, I think I understand it now, /etc/modutils is for Kernel 2.4 and /etc/modprobe.d is for kernel 2.6, is this correct?02:13
GerrathUbuntu has both kernels so it needs both directories.02:13
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triablo_what do i have to edit in gdm gdm ?02:13
sexcopter8000monkarshinde, "/home/james/Desktop/M4V10022.MP4: application/octet-stream02:13
sexcopter8000m"02:13
thoreauputicGerrath: Ubuntu doesn't have kernel 2.4.*02:14
onkarshindesexcopter8000m: Gerrath, Ubuntu doesn't have both kernels. It has only 2.6.02:14
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onkarshindesexcopter8000m: I suppose for mp4 you will have to install w32codecs.02:14
drgrebornis Kdevelepor inside of the cd-rom when I try to apt-get it?02:15
onkarshinde!tell sexcopter8000m about w32codecs02:15
Gerraththoreauputic, onkarshinde I thought it had the option to install the older 2.4 kernel.02:15
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drgrebornonkarshinde: are the various codecs in the cd-rom or I have to wait till the laptop pcmcia problem is resolved first?02:15
Gerraththoreauputic, onkarshinde I think it is in the repository, correct?02:16
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sexcopter8000monkarshinde, ok i'll try that, but i followed the instructions in the restricted formats wiki when i installed breezy02:16
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thoreauputicGerrath: not as far as I know02:16
onkarshindedrgreborn: which codecs are you trying about?02:16
Gerraththoreauputic, onkarshinde:  Well that was not my main question, was I correct in saying that /etc/modutils is for 2.4 and /etc/modprobe.d is for >=2.602:16
onkarshindeGerrath: I don't know.02:17
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triablo_thoreauputic: what do i have to edit in gdm to start-up ubuntu whitout X ?02:17
onkarshindeGerrath: Ubutnu never had any 2.4 kernel. Not in warty even.02:17
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thoreauputictriablo_: you don't = I already told you02:17
synapHeya, guys, how do I become root in Ubuntu ?02:18
triablo_I'm confused02:18
onkarshinde!tell synap about sudo02:18
Gerrathonkarshinde, I just did a quick apt-cache search, it is in the repository.02:18
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thoreauputictriablo_: one way is to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment the line out with a #02:18
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synapty02:19
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drgreborn /msg nickserv set unfiltered on02:19
thoreauputictriablo_: but to kill X, which I think is what you want, you just do  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:19
triablo_aha-thanx02:19
TaliskerK02:20
drgrebornonkarshinde: the avi codecs, mp4, etc.02:20
Taliskerwhenever I try to make a package I get: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no02:20
Taliskerconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.02:20
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onkarshinde!tell drgreborn about w32codecs02:20
onkarshindedrgreborn: They are not in CD, neither in official repos.02:21
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drgrebornonkarshinde: ok how bout the pcmcia issue?02:21
Taliskererr... excuse me?02:21
TaliskerC compiler won't compile02:21
Taliskerit's kinda urgent to fix that02:22
onkarshindedrgreborn: Sorry, I know nothing about it.02:22
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onkarshindeTalisker: Have you installed package build-essential?02:23
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Taliskerbuild essential?02:23
Juhazin other words, no02:23
onkarshindeTalisker: Yup. Do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'02:24
drgrebornhmm.02:24
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drgrebornaftertaf: are you around?02:24
aftertafdrgreborn:  use the cd and adept, or type sudo apt-get install pcmcia*02:25
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drgrebornaftertaf: I'm asking bout the pcmcia thing, sorry. ><;02:25
drgrebornoh anyone knows how to get subversion?02:25
drgrebornis it on the cd-rom? so sorry02:25
Kamping_Kaiseri doubt it's on disc02:25
drgreborn*shiku shiku*02:26
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drgrebornok then loosk like gonna have to stick with cvs02:26
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thoreauputicTalisker: install the build-essential package02:27
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thoreauputicTalisker: we told you what to do to fix it02:27
thoreauputic!info build-essential02:27
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB02:27
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thoreauputic!info subversion02:27
ubotusubversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB02:27
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thoreauputic!test02:27
ubotuFailed.02:27
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mamoru!equalizer02:28
ubotumamoru: Are you smoking crack?02:28
mamorunope02:28
mamoruis there a sound equalizer in ubuntu?02:28
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drgrebornhang on. the !info for svn states its in breezy?02:28
drgrebornbut its not in the cd?02:28
onkarshindemamoru: equilizer is not an essential package in an OS. It should be part of your media player02:28
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onkarshindedrgreborn: May be it is on DVD02:28
thoreauputicdrgreborn: in breezy it's in main02:28
drgrebornmain?02:29
drgrebornoh u mean repository.02:29
thoreauputicthe "main" repository02:29
mamoruonkarshinde, thx, i'll take a look once again02:29
drgrebornso i have no choice then? my eth candt be used.02:29
cmugdoes anyone run glquake in 5.10? i have problems running the binary02:29
drgrebornthanks thoreauputic02:29
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KASIhi again , i have installed UBUNTU just now , but i cannot connect to the internet02:30
mamorui use rhythmbox, but it gives me too much BASS02:30
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mamoruhowever its the same too much BASS when i play mp3-files in other applications02:30
Kamping_KaiserKASI: any more info?02:30
KASImodem is working fine , it dial , it makes those internet sounds then it disconnects itself02:30
mamoruit was OK before my brother used the computer02:30
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drgrebornaftertaf: the pcmcia-cs is installed. but the readme file has a slightly diff directory structure then what I see.02:31
KASIits a US ROBOTICS 56K FAXMODEM02:31
frogzooKASI: tail -f /var/log/messages02:31
KASIwats this ? i am a beginner for ubuntu :)02:31
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KASIat the moment i am on windows xp , not on ubuntu , cuz can't connect through there02:32
frogzooKASI: /var/log/messages is where system messages get logged - there will be a description of your ppp session02:32
ubuntu_noobhi all, i got a samba/home network related question, would this be the place to go?02:32
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frogzooubuntu_noob: even better if you're running ubuntu ;)02:32
michuk/var/log/syslog is even more destriptive in debian based distros02:32
ubuntu_noobof course.  *grin*02:32
drgreborn!tell aftertaf02:32
KASIok but how can i access them just now , cuz i am not using ubuntu at the moment02:32
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frogzooKASI: dunno - you've got me there for sure02:33
onkarshindeKASI: How did you start dialup? using which command?02:33
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frogzooKASI: configuring ppp dialup is pretty straightforward - click on the network icon top right - and select configure02:33
ubuntu_noobeverything works on my network, per se, i'm simply trying to share a folder on my ubuntu machine.  when i hit that machine from anywhere else it gives me the usual login handshake, but no matter what combination of username, domain, password, etc, i can't seem to get access to my machine.  and, i'm pretty sure the password/login is right.  :)02:34
jsz_KASI: pppconfig02:34
jsz_sudo pppconfig02:34
frogzooKASI: your problem REALLY sounds like authentication is failing - there's different auth schemes for ppp, & it's important to figure out the right one02:34
KASIno commands , just through the network settings i configured my dialup information and it auto detected my modem and it is working fine , but when those internet connection sounds complete it disconnects itself , can't login to my internet account02:34
jsz_KASI, make sure you specify the correct DNS02:35
KASIyeah auth problem exactly , but how to configure it ?02:35
frogzoojsz_: no DNS required - configd by ppp, or should be02:35
KASIthere r no DNS settings for my ISP , they say we r a direct connection and we dont need any DNS settings02:35
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onkarshindeKASI: Use 'sudo pppconfig' instead. Then use 'pon yourisp' to start the connection. You can see log with 'plog -f' so that you now if there is any error.02:36
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frogzooKASI: double click on the network icon top right - then select "ppp0" -> configure - you should be good to go then02:36
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moss_how do i install gtk202:37
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KASIok i must write all this in a paper and logon to ubuntu and start working on thse solutions02:37
moss_?02:37
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KASIi also have another question too , i want to access my other partitions in which i have media files like mp3's etc , how can i access them ?02:37
onkarshindemoss_: What do you mean exactly?02:38
onkarshinde!tell KASI about btfs02:38
moss_checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.                                                                            0) were not met.02:38
onkarshinde!tell KASI about ntfs02:38
thoreauputicmoss_: GTK 2 is installed by default - do you mean development/ compilation libraries?02:38
onkarshindemoss_: are you compiling something?02:38
moss_yes02:39
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KASITHANX02:39
onkarshindemoss_: you need to install gtk2 development package02:39
moss_ok02:39
moss_whats the apt-get for that?02:39
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thoreauputicmoss_:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev (or search in synaptic)02:39
jesseHELP! I accidentally threw my desktop in the trash and then emptied the trash: Is there any way to get this very important info back??02:39
moss_oh02:40
moss_is it libgtk2-devel02:40
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moss_?02:40
thoreauputicjesse: I think you are out of luck02:40
drgrebornI cant seem to reset the time in my Kubuntu. when I try to change it, it ask for my password then dissaperas.02:40
thoreauputicmoss_: ubuntu dev packages are -dev not -devel02:40
onkarshindemoss_: libgtk2.0-dev02:40
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drgrebornIs this a problem with the kcontrol?02:40
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moss_ok02:40
jesseno special person to call who can magically get all the info from the hard disk??02:41
CosmoDadhi, can anyone of your hear both ALSA and OSS sound streams using the OSS-Emulation? if say, would you mind sharing asound.conf/.asoundrc files?02:41
moss_thx02:41
onkarshindeGood bye everybody. Enjoy Ubuntu.02:41
drgrebornbye thanks for the help02:41
KASIbye thanks for the help02:41
CosmoDadhear both streams *at the same time* I mean...02:42
thoreauputicCosmoDad: it's kind of application-specific - if the app doesn't do alsa, it grabs /dev/dsp and nothing else can play02:42
thoreauputicCosmoDad: or if you start an OSS only app when sound is in use, it throws an error ( audacity fo instance )02:43
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frogzoojesse - double click trash & restore -e asy02:43
CosmoDadthoreauputic: shouldn't that be handled by the OSS emulation of ALSA?02:43
CosmoDadthoreauputic: I mean, what's the emulation good for if all OSS-only applications just grab the device exclusively?02:44
thoreauputicCosmoDad: I don't know enough to answer that properly02:44
moss_anyone know a good benchmarking program02:44
moss_for seeing system performance?02:44
drgrebornsay when i do "gcc -DCARDBUS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes02:44
drgreborn-O6 -c rtl8139.c -o realtek_cb.o -I/usr/src/linux/pcmcia-cs-3.0.9/include/"02:44
thoreauputicCosmoDad: all I know is that I canrun alsa output apps simultaneously, but not OSS only apps like audacity or skype02:45
drgrebornit says the rtl8139.c is not foound02:45
drgrebornbut i'm in the flder already02:45
moss_Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:02:45
moss_ klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.02:45
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frogzoodrgreborn: if you can 'cat rtl8139.c' it should work02:45
CosmoDadthoreauputic: same here, but as long as nobody can explain to me what oss emulation is actually good for I resist giving up on this issue :)02:45
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thoreauputicCosmoDad: you need a guru like crimsun to explain it :) I don't understand it myself02:46
CosmoDadthoreauputic: alright thanks for trying :)02:47
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thoreauputicCosmoDad: good luck :)02:47
ubuntu_noobdo i need any extra samba tools to enable and configure file sharing on my ubuntu box?02:47
frogzoo!samba02:47
ubotuI heard samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:47
drgrebornfrogzoo: so i add the cat in front of the rtl8139.c ?02:48
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frogzoodrgreborn: no no - just try it from a shell prompt to see if you can read the file02:48
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Knight_LordThe most amazing thing just happened. I just installed Ubuntu but i don't recall it to ask for the root password!02:51
Kamping_Kaiser!tell Knight_Lord about root02:51
drgrebornI have this error "-Wstrict-prototypes02:52
drgreborn   -O6 unrecognised command line option"02:52
Knight_LordKamping_Kaiser ok so i have sudo access by default?02:52
Kamping_Kaisercorrect02:52
Knight_LordKamping_Kaiser sudo su - is my friend :-P02:52
Kamping_KaiserKnight_Lord: use sudo -i02:52
Knight_LordKamping_Kaiser ok thanks for the help02:52
Kamping_Kaiserfull root env02:52
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apokryphosHas anyone got successfully got cgi scripts to be executable in /var/www? Most indications seem to imply that just uncommenting a line in apache2.conf should do it, but it doesn't seem to work02:53
drgrebornfrogzoo:whats this mean?  "-Wstrict-prototypes02:53
drgreborndrgreborn    -O6 unrecognised command line option"02:53
kvanttihas someone solved the problem that causes wolfenstein et to give no sound in ubuntu?02:53
Kamping_Kaiserkvantti: try the forums02:54
Knight_LordKamping_Kaiser i just installed Ubuntu in my laptop, and coming from Debian i'm pleasently surprised. My touchpad works without installed anything02:54
pontkvantti, kill esd ?02:54
Kamping_KaiserKnight_Lord: it's a nice distro, but it does have it's quirks02:54
Knight_LordKamping_Kaiser debian or ubuntu?02:54
Kamping_Kaiserknowing how apt- works before starting helps a lot :)02:55
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frogzoodrgreborn: man gcc :)02:55
Kamping_KaiserKnight_Lord: ubuntu02:55
jesseFrogzoo when I double click trash I get 2 trash windows.. Where is Restore?02:55
aeon17xjesse: Restore doesn't exit.02:55
aeon17x*exist02:55
Knight_LordKamping_Kaiser such a nice Gnome theme i might even consider switching from WindowMaker to Gnome02:55
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frogzoojesse are your files in there? just drag to desktop?02:55
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Kamping_KaiserKnight_Lord: i havent changed it from default in the 10 months or so i have used it02:56
Kamping_Kaiserwhatever they put in seems to be fine02:56
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Bob332im installing ubuntu and its asking me to erase entire disk and use LVM, whats LVM?02:56
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Kamping_KaiserBob332: don't bother with lvm02:56
Kamping_KaiserLogical Volume Management02:56
thoreauputicBob332: if you don't know, you don't want it02:57
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frogzoogxine or totem for choice? which is better?02:57
ookami__i typed "uptime" and its showing the details......... but its also showing 3 users. How do i find out what users they are? i only remember setting up 2users. My self and my gf (account which has not been used) any ideas?02:57
kvanttilk02:57
kvanttiol02:57
kvanttipon what is esd?02:57
drgrebornfrogzoo: I cant find it in the man. Googling throws up nothing02:58
thoreauputicfrogzoo: wrong question - totem-xine or gxine would be a better comparison02:58
pontookami__, Perhaps your logged on once and your gf twice ?02:58
frogzooBob332: lvm is the logical volume manager - you shouldn't need it typically - do you have a spare partition(s)?02:58
Kamping_Kaiserookami__: the users are logged in users. your gdm session and (probably) 2 terminals02:58
pontookami__, who02:58
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frogzooookami__: who02:58
ookami__ok.02:58
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ookami__who shows ookami :0, pts/0 , pts/102:58
frogzooookami__: these will be terminals02:58
tonymahoonhey everybody02:59
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pontpts/0 is a psydo terminal02:59
pont:0 is x02:59
pontso gdm and two terminals02:59
thoreauputics/psydo/pseudo02:59
pont:P02:59
taliPSYCHE!! Terminals :P02:59
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ookami__I see. no idea what it really means though.03:00
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pontme spell good !!!03:00
thoreauputicookami__: if you close a terminal, the count will go down to 203:00
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theD3viLdoes ubuntu has udev or devfs?03:01
thoreauputicookami__: each terminal counts as a user03:01
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thoreauputicudev03:01
markus__HI03:01
ookami__thoreauputic, nice. didnt know that. Thanks. it makes more sense now.03:01
theD3viLthoreauputic, 4.10 too ?03:01
thoreauputicookami__: :)03:01
thoreauputictheD3viL: not sure - I think it used udev but don't quote me ;)03:02
ookami__one more question...I launched GKrellM.... and its showing i have 15/15 mail. but i click the icon and it does nothing. (i dont remember setting up mail....)03:02
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theD3viLthoreauputic, kk...tnx03:02
markus__hi, i have a FS prob?03:02
jendawhat prob?03:02
Bob332frogzoo, i dont have a spare partition, what would be the advantage of LVM03:02
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Kamping_Kaiserthoreauputic:  :)03:02
aris[glande] hello people03:02
ookami__err 15/15/03:02
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doctormohello aris03:02
markus__i use ext3 for root and now it has a IMAGIC FLAG SET03:02
drgrebornfrogzoo: the compilitaion gives some errors03:02
aris[glande] I am looking for an installation image of 5.04 that fits on one or two 1.44 disks. any idea ?03:03
theD3viLthoreauputic, uh..and .. can i install 4.10 and then upgrade to breezy ?03:03
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thoreauputictheD3viL: yes, you can03:03
markus__and i dont know how to fix it, fsck.ext303:03
topylithoreauputic: you can now install breezy! ;-)03:03
Kamping_KaisertheD3viL: yes, but not cleanly03:03
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Kamping_Kaiseraris[glande] : good luck03:03
frogzoomarkus__: ext3 for root is stock standard - what's this magic flag though?03:04
aris[glande] argh :/03:04
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GreenCultbuenos dias a todos03:04
thoreauputictopyli: oh, I've had breezy for several weeks due to variuos people's generosity in sending me discs :)03:04
aris[glande] there are some info abouts network installation with pxe03:04
ookami__Anacron job 'cron.daily' on Navi ? ...any ideas?03:04
aris[glande] but the laptop is too old and has no pxe support03:04
topylithoreauputic: i know :)03:04
frogzoodrgreborn: then you're could be compiling the wrong version driver for your setup I'd guess03:04
theD3viLthoreauputic, what about depencies problems ?03:04
thoreauputictopyli: but now I can give some away03:04
thoreauputictheD3viL: taken care of by apt03:04
markus__while booting the system says i have to log in as root user and fix it manually. ive done this but the problem is still there03:05
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thoreauputic!tell theD3viL about breezy03:05
arioch_does anyone here know anything about compiling wine and dealing with errors in the make process?03:05
drgrebornfrogzoo: can I sho the errors?03:05
topylithoreauputic: yeah, distributed mine out in a seminar03:05
sss_lrmarkus__, display problem?03:05
thoreauputictheD3viL: you might want to upgrade to hoary then breezy03:05
Kamping_Kaiserif you have the bandwidth03:05
markus__no03:05
Kamping_Kaiser450M~ per update03:05
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redguycan anyone tell me if http://lists.zerezo.com/video4linux/msg00674.html appliest to ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel as well? Where I could check it? (I would need the kernel source, but what if it's included in some ubuntu specific patch?)03:06
sss_lrarioch_, there is wine package for ubuntu03:06
markus__only a my ext3 has a imagic flag set at inode 1023833303:06
theD3viLthoreauputic, k .. tnx.. but..hm...where goes exemple: OOo 1.4 .. and then upgraded to 2.0 .. where goes 1.4? removed ?03:06
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: yes - I haven't heard of anyone directly going from warty to breezy03:06
Kamping_Kaiserniether03:06
frogzoomarkus__: fscking root is a bit tricky - easiest would be to boot from a recovery disk, eg RIP, and run fsck.ext3 /dev/hdxxx from there03:06
frogzooyour problem is that you can't fsck while the partition is mounted03:06
markus__why?03:06
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markus__and what is a IMAGIC FLAG03:07
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nightswim!sudo03:07
ubotusudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:07
doyleyhmm03:07
frogzoomarkus__: I think it just means the file system is dirty - you didn't shutdown properly03:07
doyleyanyone help me? :)03:07
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markus__yes one time03:07
Knight_LordEnergy management is working =-O. I'm bewildered03:07
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LjLfrogzoo: what about  shutdown -F -r ?03:08
thoreauputicmarkus__: if you fsck while a partition is mounted, it is dangerous because it might change during the procedure, and be corrupted (in simple terms)03:08
doyleymy screen is split in half :\03:08
kvanttidamn, this enemy territory gives me 0 errors which people describe all the time in the et forums, and my problem is just 0 sound..there was a solve for this, and if the person which told me about it could give me the link, i would greatly appreciate03:08
markus__i try now03:08
markus__l8er03:09
LjLmarkus__:  shutdown -F -r03:09
frogzooLjL: problem is, he can't boot up in the first place03:09
LjLfrogzoo, markus__ : where does booting stop?03:09
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frogzooLjL: I think it was as soon as the fsck of /03:10
frogzooie nowhere03:10
LjLthat's bad03:10
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arioch_Can one patch the ubuntu wine package that is found in the repository?03:11
LjLi would use SMART too to check for any hardware failure03:11
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frogzooLjL: he brought it on himself - just powered off from the sounds of things03:11
LjLfrogzoo: i "just power off" quite often, and never got something like that03:12
Knight_LordHow do i get mplayer or something like that in ubuntu?03:12
LjLfrogzoo: (yeah, i know "just powering off" isn't quite recommended)03:12
Knight_Lordapt-cache search mplayer didn't prove very successful03:12
frogzooLjL: well one of these days...03:12
grenlanautomatix rocks btw03:12
LjLfrogzoo: ext3 is journaled, it shouldn't get the filesystem in such a messy state even after a hard poweroff03:13
grenlani am quite new and the lack of codecs was driving me insane lol03:13
thoreauputicKnight_Lord: you need the multiverse repository03:13
thoreauputic!info mplayer-58603:13
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB03:13
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LjLfrogzoo: say "one of these years" anyway, 'cause i've been running Debian with ext3 on my server for about four years, and i often just turned the power off ;)03:13
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panzarhi03:14
panzarmplayer can't find any fonts in the font-path.03:14
panzarwhere should i point the font-path, please?03:14
LjLfrogzoo: anyway, i'm not really advocating hard power-offs, mind you, just saying they aren't supposed to mess your filesystem to such a bad state03:14
thoreauputic!info mplayer-fonts03:15
ubotumplayer-fonts: (Fonts for mplayer), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 3.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1305 kB, Installed size: 7172 kB03:15
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panzarah, thanks thoreauputic03:15
fc123:))03:16
fc123im  in03:16
fc123yessssssssssssssssssssssss03:16
CosmoDadthoreauputic: concerning ALSA, OSS-emulation, and dmix: I figured it out. If you wanna read it yourself, go to http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin and search for the first point in the "Additional Info" section03:16
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thoreauputicCosmoDad: ah thanks :)03:16
CosmoDadthoreauputic: basically, the dmix device requires ALSA-aware applications. OSS-only apps can only be made to work with dmix by using the aoss wrapper03:17
thoreauputicCosmoDad: so it's possiblr?03:17
thoreauputicaha03:17
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CosmoDadthoreauputic: unfortunately, the version of skype in ubuntu has this bug that makes it segfault when loading via aoss03:17
topylipanzar: the mplayer-fonts package advertises itself as "non-mandatory", but mplayer doesn't seem to work without it. i'd call it a dependency bug but the package is totally unsupported so there's nowhere to file bugs to :)03:17
thoreauputicCosmoDad: the joys of closed source - we have to hope they fix it since we can't03:18
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CosmoDadthoreauputic: yeah this sucks bad ass since skype is so popular03:18
markus__hi03:18
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fc123skype wont  work on  ubuntu??03:19
fc123did i hear it  right??03:19
markus__i call with skype under ubuntu03:19
tumiwhy not?03:19
CosmoDadfc123: no03:19
fc123i try  t    dl  it   hour ago03:19
CosmoDadfc123: skype is an example for an application that won't work with aoss03:20
fc123i cant install   skype03:20
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belouhow do i use cairo-gtk-engine?03:20
thoreauputic!skype03:21
CosmoDad!tell fc123 about skype03:21
ubotuskype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:21
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thoreauputicCosmoDad: :)03:21
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frogzoo!skype03:22
ubotuI heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:22
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osfameronis that esd and skype issue fixed in Breezy?03:23
sss_lrarioch_, sorry the packages are fine i guess are using breezy?03:23
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fc123what is  taht??03:24
fc123i miss   that url03:24
fc123about  skype03:24
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sss_lrarioch_, able to see my reply/03:25
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frogzoo!tell fc123 about skype03:25
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fc123tnx   frogzoo03:25
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Bob332is ubuntu server basically a debian server?03:26
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frogzooBob332: all the packages are still Ubuntu packages, not Debian...03:27
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Bob332frogzoo, so are the packages the same03:27
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frogzoono, they're not03:27
frogzooprobably very similiar, but definately not 100% compatible03:28
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sss_lrarioch_, able to see03:28
Bob332frogzoo, so are there fewer packages03:28
RawplayerMI03:28
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arioch_yes03:28
arioch_I am trying to message you, but you don't respond03:28
sss_lrarioch_, same case with me too...lol03:29
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fc123hehehehehehehe:)03:30
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fc123just  finish reading  eh03:30
arioch_sss_lr, hmm, how to fix that?03:30
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apanssonhello, i need some help..03:30
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apanssoni want to connect my Nvidiacard to my TV03:31
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fc123is  ubunto can suppoirt  webcams??03:31
apanssonhow do i do that?03:31
sss_lrarioch_, pakages are ok i guess r u using breezy?03:31
arioch_sss_lr, yes03:31
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sss_lrarioch_, apt-get update && apt-get install wine03:32
sss_lrarioch_, if error tell me what error03:32
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arioch_sss_lr, will I be able to patch it to work with World of Warcraft?03:32
sss_lrarioch_, may be i never tried that03:33
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AzeulHello all i wonder if any of you kind souls can help me03:33
AzeulI'm attempting to get ubuntu to recognise my battery status03:34
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Azeuli have followed the steps from the wiki, but theres a PROBLEM03:34
aris[glande] what problem ?03:34
Azeulwhen i attempt to do the /.iasl bit03:35
george_hi03:35
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Azeulmy terminal all the text in it, including the title turn into symbols03:35
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penguinzdrhow can i make ubuntu packages from source?03:36
mjrAzeul, try giving the "reset" command on the terminal03:36
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Azeulok, well that kinda sorted it03:36
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Azeuli can now read any text i type, but i canse see the code thats gone previous03:37
sss_lrarioch_, http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/101-World-of-Warcraft-working-in-Linux-with-WINE.html03:37
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penguinzdrhow can i make ubuntu packages from source?03:37
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fc123hmm03:37
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fc123anybody knows  how can i   make  an image   of my  ubuntu??03:38
fc123and  restore it later  when it  crashes??03:38
fc123anybody knows  how can i   make  an image   of my  ubuntu??03:38
aris[glande] it doesn't crash :)03:38
fc123naaaaaaaaaaaaahhh03:38
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fc123] save it on   CD and retoe it again??03:39
fc123hehehehe03:39
sss_lrarioch_, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb03:39
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penguinzdrhow can i make ubuntu packages from source?03:39
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fc123?03:39
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fc123plsssss:)03:39
apokryphosPenguin: good guide/links at http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide03:40
sss_lrpenguinzdr: use alien03:40
Mabus06no spamming fc12303:40
ari_uboto tell me about repositories03:40
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Azeulhmm03:41
fc123sorry03:41
GreenCultaaaaaa <-- it's a spamming??03:41
penguinzdrsss_lr, and whats alien?03:41
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sharkethello03:41
fc123did  i??03:41
Azeulwhen i compile the thing with the ./iasl i'm meant to et a .hex file and a .aml file03:41
fc123hi shark03:41
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Azeulbut i only have the .hex03:41
sss_lrpenguinzdr: apt-cache show alien03:42
sharkethow can i install plugins for mozilla from linux ?03:42
sharkethello erki  estonian :D03:42
erkihi03:42
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erkican any1 help me?03:42
linuxgeek2yup03:42
sharketlinuxgeek2:  do u know hwo ?03:42
apokryphospenguinzdr: another way is to just use checkinstall, so ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && configure && checkinstall03:42
penguinzdrok, i will try with both03:43
ari_is uboto dead?03:43
erkiI need to delete file that is in a directory on NTFS HDD i have mounted my NTFS drive, but i cant delete any files there. i can open them.03:43
ari_it doesn't answer03:43
erkihelp please03:43
apokryphos!test03:43
ubotuStop poking me!03:43
Kamping_Kaise1ari i doubt it03:43
Kamping_Kaise1are you registered/?03:43
fc123hehehhe;)03:43
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linuxgeek2huh ?03:44
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fc123ubuntu is no.103:44
ari_kamping, do I need to be registered to use uboto?03:44
fc123suse  is  only  2nd03:44
erkitheres a virus in windows/system32 and i wanna delete it in Ubuntu :)03:44
apokryphosari_: yes03:44
erkii have mounted this NTFS drive03:44
fc123:))))))))))03:44
sharketthen ?03:44
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sharketremove it03:44
erkii cant03:45
fc123lolo erki03:45
sharketwhy03:45
apokryphos!tell ari_ about register03:45
ari_thanks apok03:45
erkiit says items on my NTFS drive are protected03:45
mjrerki, you can't write on an ntfs drive in Linux (without going through some pains to do so)03:45
ccc_erki: ntfs under linux is read only03:45
erkibut delete?03:45
Kamping_Kaise1erki: you cant write *safely*03:45
erki:/03:45
Kamping_Kaise1erki: delete is write03:45
TaliskerAre there older version of packages in the repos or do I have to get and install them myself?03:45
erkioh ok..03:45
sharketmjr: how can i install plugis to mozilla from linux ?03:45
Kamping_Kaise1you just write it out of existance03:45
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erkiwhat are the pains ? :D03:46
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Kamping_Kaise1erki: 90% or something chance of data loss.....03:46
Kamping_Kaise1(last i used it anway)03:46
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Glossaryhow can i install my soundcard driver?03:46
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erkiOk,  thanks for info03:47
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erkigoodbye03:47
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ubuntu;l03:49
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fc123hahahahahaha:))))))03:50
Kamping_Kaise1o_003:50
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penguinzdrhow long it takes an average compiling?03:51
matej_Will system work faster if i install kernel k7? I have AMD Athlon XP and right now have kernel-386?03:51
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Kamping_Kaise1matej_: yes03:51
Kamping_Kaise1in theory03:51
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aris[glande] fc123, you're wanting to save your personnal documents, or your complete setup ?03:51
Kamping_Kaise1matej_: in some cases the extra optomisations will be a godsend, for wordprocessing, probably not03:51
penguinzdrhow long it takes an average compiling?03:52
matej_Kamping_Kaise1, k..ill install it03:52
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aris[glande] Penguin, average compiling of what ?03:52
blue-frogPenguin, 30 sec to few hours...03:52
thoreauputicPenguin: there's no such thing as an "average" compiling03:52
aris[glande] a complete system on gentoo can take 2 days of compiling with an athlon6403:52
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penguinzdrcompiling of BMP/Audacious03:52
aris[glande] and the software I develop takes 30 seconds03:52
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aris[glande] penguinzdr, try, and then you'll know03:53
blue-frogpenguinzdr, try it u'll tell us...03:53
aris[glande] generaly it's not very slow03:53
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aris[glande] openoffice takes a whole day03:53
aris[glande] but ooo is huge03:53
penguinzdri have a 1.8 GHz processor. will it take one day?03:53
penguinzdri mean BMPO03:53
penguinzdrwithout O03:53
aris[glande] more likely half an hour03:53
MagicFabHelo03:54
MagicFab(Hello) :)03:54
aftertafaris[glande] :  ca glande ca glande :)03:54
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penguinzdraris[glande] , what software do you devel?03:54
aris[glande] aftertaf, it's my second nature03:54
aris[glande] penguinzdr, a ssh library03:54
aftertafari_:  hehe me 2, grave ;)03:55
penguinzdrwow03:55
Knight_Lord?Is there any ubuntu tool to change sources.list?03:55
sharketnano03:55
MagicFabIf any Colombians are lurking around, or if you know of any, please visit / invite them to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam03:55
aftertafKnight_Lord:  test editor or synaptic...03:55
sharketvi , kate03:55
sharket:D03:55
Kamping_KaiserKnight_Lord: synaptic/kynaptic/adept03:55
aftertaf*text03:55
aris[glande] Knight_Lord, synaptics does that03:55
aftertaf!tell Knight_Lord about apt03:55
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aris[glande] i'm installing ubuntu on a cdromless laptop03:56
Knight_LordBut editing by hand is still fine right?03:56
aris[glande] by upgrading the older debian install03:56
Kamping_KaiserKnight_Lord: sure03:56
penguinzdryay! compiled for ten minutes!03:56
Kamping_Kaiseri do ;)03:56
Knight_Lordok03:56
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wolfihi03:56
wolfiwhats up?03:56
Kamping_Kaiseraris[glande] : you might be doing what I'm about dto do with this imac - Sarge install then dist-upgrade to Breezy ;)03:56
Kamping_Kaiserhi wolfi03:57
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:57
aris[glande] i'm going to upgrade to hoary03:57
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aris[glande] because my download quota is low and I don't have a breezy i386 cd at hand03:57
aris[glande] only an amd6403:57
Kamping_Kaiseraris[glande] : afaik there is no ubuntu install floppies03:58
Kamping_Kaiserif there are some tell me about them ;)03:58
aris[glande] it sucks03:58
aris[glande] in fact03:58
aris[glande] it's possible to load a floppy that loads a kernel through pxe03:58
aris[glande] (etherboot)03:58
blue-frogaris[glande] , do you have network connection on your laptop?03:58
aris[glande] then, there is pxe installation support right into ubuntu03:58
aris[glande] blue-frog, only through pcmcia03:58
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blue-frogaris[glande] , and a working linux installed?03:58
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aris[glande] I have a working sarge. i'm removing unusuful packages (gnome, x, kde)03:59
matej_Can i install every program with WINE? ... program not a game...03:59
aris[glande] then i'm going to change sources03:59
aris[glande] and cross my fingers03:59
Kamping_Kaisermatej_: no03:59
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matej_Kamping_Kaiser, what about03:59
blue-frogaris[glande] , then get ubuntu iso on your laptop and install from hard disk03:59
Bob332i just loaded ubuntu live, how do i start a gui, i tried startx and it gave errors saying xauth. error while loading shared libraries04:00
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Kamping_Kaisermatej_: you cant install *every* program, you can install *some* programs04:00
aris[glande] blue-frog, the hard disk is too small... and i couldn't boot on the image04:00
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jack-anyone here who happens to have gShield? the download link on their homepage is dead04:00
blue-frogaris[glande] , hard disk space is one thing, booting on image is just a little trick to do04:01
jack-need some simple iptables frontend/wrapper for my wannabe admins04:01
shajiKamping_Kaiser , hi ..i still didnt get my splash screen working.I installed ubuntu-desktop and usplash aswell .But system tries to display an image and suddenly fails04:01
Kamping_Kaiserjack-: firestarter?04:01
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sladenshaji: fails, /how/04:01
aris[glande] explain me, how may I boot on the cdrom image with the ubuntu kernel ? (which is embedded into the iso image itself)04:01
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Kamping_Kaisershaji: shaji can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.list into pastebin?04:02
jack-fn~Kamping_Kaiser: is firestarter a gui thing or pure scripts as well?04:02
blue-frogaris[glande] , http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/sans_cd04:02
centrebulletwhat file do I have to edit to add modules to be loaded on boot?04:02
thoreauputicjack-: gui'04:02
jack-damn04:02
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Kamping_Kaiserjack-: firestarter is a gui04:02
jack-thx anyway..got gnome-lokkit etc already04:02
Kamping_Kaiser!firestarter04:02
ubotuhmm... firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic04:02
jack-need something thats curses based or pure scripts04:02
thoreauputiccentrebullet: add them to /etc/modules04:02
KASICould not lookup internet address for. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly . It maybe possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts .... wat is this, wat should i do ?04:02
shajiKamping_Kaiser , currently  i am working from a different machine04:03
jack-for a server without x1104:03
topylijack-: you set it up with the gui. you don't have to look at it again after that :)04:03
Kamping_Kaisershaji: oh, ok04:03
jack-doesnt matter..no x11, no gui04:03
jack-dont want to have to install x11 just for a remote window04:03
topylijack-: oh yeah04:03
Kamping_KaiserKASI: have you chaged your hosts file?04:03
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blue-frogaris[glande] , froom 1.2 u need to retrieve vmlinuz and initrd.gz04:03
aris[glande] i see04:03
trappistjack-: ipkungfu04:03
jack-pure script?04:03
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KASIKamping_Kaiser  NO04:03
trappistyeah04:03
jack-thx, let me check04:03
aris[glande] it would be a really good solution if I had enough space for a 650mb partition04:04
blue-frogaris[glande] , i know the site is in franch but command lines are command lines...04:04
Kamping_Kaisershaji: check your line looks like this `kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-686 root=/dev/hdb3 ro quiet splash` with the splash bit04:04
centrebulletOk and what file under etc holds the network card info?04:04
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aris[glande] blue-frog, i speak french :)04:04
Kamping_KaiserKASI: if you type ifconfig do you have loopback?04:04
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thoreauputiccentrebullet: /etc/network/interfaces04:04
centrebulletthanks04:05
KASIi don't know , i am not currently logged in to ubuntu , cuz the internet is not working on that , i am on windows now to ask for help04:05
blue-frogaris[glande] , if u don't have 650 Mb in your laptop, am not sure that u will be able to install much of ubuntu..04:05
aris[glande] blue-frog, but thanks for the hint, i'll try this solution if the debian-upgrading does not work04:05
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aris[glande] blue-frog, i have 2.2gb but i have it on a single partition, i'm not able to cut it down04:06
penguinzdrwow audacious is cool04:06
aris[glande] and I don't want to have a 650mb partition left apart after the install04:06
Kamping_KaiserKASI: it's one of 2 thinkgs, you have no loopback, or your hosts file is wrong IIRC. I'll go with the former04:06
KASIi've been trying to make the internet work on that but its still not working , can't even open a single website04:06
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KASIwats the former ?04:06
Kamping_Kaiserloopback04:06
KASIhow can i get loopback04:07
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KASIi have freshly installed ubuntu and am a beginner04:08
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villerhi!04:08
Kamping_KaiserKASI: in ubuntu, if you type 'ifconfig' in a terminal and it says 'lo' on the first few lines your ok with that, if it's missing 'lo', then add the lines `auto lo` and `iface lo inet loopback`04:08
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MenZa`KASI: Welcome to the world of Ubuntu :)04:08
villerhow can i become root so that i could do root stuff in nautilus too?04:08
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blue-frogKASI, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html04:09
KASIi just can't understand why r we going towards the difficult operating systems ?04:09
KASIwhere is the terminal ?04:09
thoreauputicKASI: accessories (in breezy)04:09
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KASIterminal is a programme right04:10
thoreauputicKASI: it's only difficult because you aren't used to it yet :)04:10
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Mabus06can anyone give me a one line explanation of the difference between KDE and GNOME?04:11
KASIif i copuld only get my internet work on ubuntu , that would be a million dollar relief04:11
villerhow can i become root so that i could do root stuff in nautilus too?04:11
KASIcould*04:11
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Mabus06I'll help you for half of that, KASI.04:11
_jasonkde looks prettier04:11
|mp|anyone any ideas about this bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017704:11
louieare there any known problems with dhcp in dapper?04:11
blue-frogMabus06, look and feel...04:11
Kamping_KaiserMabus06: Gnome is mac, KDE is Windows04:11
Kamping_Kaiserviller: you don't generaly04:11
KASIthanx04:11
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Kamping_Kaiserviller: try gksudo nautilus04:12
KASIso can u tell me wat should i do now04:12
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oshHow can I configure my cups printer through the cups-web-interface? The root password is unset and that's the only one that allows login, isnt' it? Where does cups look for authentication? Is it in /etc/passwd(shadow) or does it use it's own files, like webmin?04:13
Mabus06viller, if you really want to you can enable your root account and simply login as it at the login screen04:13
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aris[glande] osh, they say you should not use the web interface04:13
oshI don't have any X installed on this machine which is why I'd like to be able to use the web-interface.04:13
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aris[glande] only the gtk one04:13
aris[glande] ah04:13
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aris[glande] osh, edit the /etc/cups/cups.conf or cupsd.conf04:13
aris[glande] and add ALLOW FROM lines everywhere04:14
villermabus06: how do i do that?04:14
aris[glande] then, disable the "restricted users" thing only04:14
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Mabus06viller, I dont know how to do that after installation, I did it during installation04:14
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osharis[glande] : If there is a "server" distribution of ubuntu one should be able to use the non-gui tools. Methinks. Thanks for the answers. I'll go do that now. =)04:14
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ibrasili tried to update my ubunto but the process was not successfully, now i tried 'apt-get -f install' becouse the perl and perl-modules is broken but half system was removed, how to fix this?04:17
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Mabus06lol sounds pressing, ibrasil04:18
derek[] anyway to format a fat32 partition into ext3 on windows?04:19
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Kamping_Kaiserderek[] : not through Windows04:19
derek[] dang04:19
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arioch_has anyone been sucessful in running World of Warcraft in wine using the repository version of wine?04:19
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Kamping_Kaiserderek[] : stuff like partition magic does it, but Windows wont04:20
derek[] i got partition magic.. it does only ext204:20
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villeri have /home on another partition, how do i paste something to root??04:20
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derek[] cp filename /root/ ?04:20
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Kamping_Kaiserviller: paste to root?04:21
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Kamping_Kaiserderek[] : new partition magics do ext3 I'm sure of it04:21
Kamping_Kaiserbut why anyway?04:21
Kamping_Kaiserleave space and the partitioner will fill it04:21
villerkamping_kaiser: i mean / not /root04:21
derek[] cuz I'm afraid if I may format the wrong partition while installing ubuntu04:21
villeri know partition magic does ext3, I have done it myself04:22
derek[] viller, which ver.?04:22
villerderek[] : don't know :D04:22
Kamping_Kaiserviller: sudo cp ~/file /blah04:22
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muskI am having trouble with my WPC-11 linksys laptop PMCMCIA card.04:22
Kamping_Kaiserderek, leave 5 gig free space, ubuntu will use the right bit :)04:22
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Syx-Theloo04:23
Syx-Tvre-un roman pe aici04:23
Syx-T?04:23
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villerkamping_kaiser: i get: cp: omitting directory '...'04:23
blue-frogderek[] , how many partition do u have, which one do u want to use to install ubuntu?04:23
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Kamping_Kaiserviller: -a or -r04:23
derek[] 4 partitions04:23
derek[] want to install on the first two04:23
Syx-Tcan someone tell me how can I compile and ron a program made in c++ ?04:23
villerkamping_kaiser: man cp?04:23
muskWhat is a known good wifi pcmcia card for ubuntu?04:24
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blue-frogderek[] , do u keep windows?04:24
derek[] yeah04:24
Kamping_Kaiserviller: or cp --help04:24
derek[] have to04:24
derek[] gotta run flash04:24
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derek[] i'm a designer04:24
indypendesomeone know a 64bit ubuntu's wiki or howto?04:24
Kamping_KaiserSyx-T: get the build-essentaial package04:24
villerkamping_kaiser: -r is for recursive, i don't know english that well, is that the right option?04:24
derek[] unless there's a flash like program for linux :)04:25
Syx-TI have make and gcc04:25
Kamping_Kaiserviller: that means it will copy everthing in the directory04:25
blue-frogderek[] , so u tell me windows right now is installed on the last 2 partitions, are u sure?04:25
villerkamping_kaiser: thanks04:25
Kamping_Kaiserviller: np04:25
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sdakotahi04:25
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:26
sdakotahow do I get the number of lines outputted by a command (like dir) ?04:26
Kamping_Kaisersdakota: |wc -l04:26
frogzooderek[] : sudo fdisk -l          just to be sure04:26
Kamping_Kaisersdakota: `ls |wd -l`04:26
sdakotaor can I get the number of files ending at .something ?04:26
Kamping_Kaiserthat's a pipe04:26
Kamping_Kaisersdakota: `ls *something |wd -l`04:26
sdakotals -o | wd -l04:26
Syx-Theloo04:26
Syx-T?04:26
sdakotathat gives one line more, but that doesn't metter04:26
sdakotamatter*04:27
skorahello Syx-T04:27
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frogzoos/wd/wc04:27
Syx-Tnobody can help04:27
skorahello oldguy04:27
Syx-T?04:27
skorawith04:27
Kamping_KaiserSyx-T: did get build-essentials?04:27
oldguyhey all: i just enabled ldap using ubuntu docs...and cant sudo..04:27
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derek[] <blue-frog> derek[] , so u tell me windows right now is installed on the last 2 partitions, are u sure?04:28
derek[] yeah04:28
Syx-Tnot iet, is making another update nou04:28
Syx-Tjust a sec04:28
derek[] <frogzoo> derek[] : sudo fdisk -l          just to be sure04:28
derek[] I'm on windoze at the moment04:28
blue-frogderek u have a weird installation...04:28
sdakotaKamping_Kaiser, wd: command not found04:28
oldguythere was a line in docs suggesting adding a line to /etc/pam.s/sudo..but that in breezy refers back to common-auth04:28
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derek[] blue-frog, yeh.04:28
Kamping_Kaisersdakota: wc04:28
oldguyskora: hi btw04:28
Kamping_Kaiseroh, my bad04:28
frogzooderek[] : disk manager should show file system type of each partition04:28
Kamping_Kaiserwc - Word Count04:28
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blue-frogderek[] , u'd better install windows properly cause u may have surprises otherwise...04:29
hussamanybody here knows how to get dazuko kernel module to work on breezy?04:29
sdakotaKamping_Kaiser, thanks04:29
Kamping_Kaisernp04:29
frogzoo!dazuko04:29
ubotufrogzoo: No idea04:29
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osharis[glande] : You don't happen to have  a link on how to do that cups-thingy as I can't really deal with it right now. My baby is crying and I'll have to prioritize that.04:29
frogzoo!cups04:30
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, frogzoo04:30
derek[] blue-frog, surprises after installing linux?04:30
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blue-frogderek[] , yes, u'd better have windows using the first partition and install linux afterwards04:30
aris[glande] hmm i don't have any link04:30
aris[glande] i hacked that myself to debug my printing problems04:31
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Knight_LordWhen i changed from ati to fglrx driver my resolution went from 1200x800 to 1024x768. How to correct this?04:31
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sdakotahow to do $var1-$var2?04:31
osharis[glande] : Too bad. Thanks anyway. I'll figure it out eventually I think.04:31
sdakotait outputs the string "var1-var2" here04:31
sdakotaI mean, in bash...04:32
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fzwarthi all. am looking for someone who can help me with an ubuntu breezy cd order/shipping question04:32
centrebulletCan someone tell me why everytime I try to run anything under System-->Admin my mouse cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs?04:32
derek[] blue-frog, well then I'll have to download a lot of updates for windows once again.. which is a pain and my internet connection has a download limit per month04:32
Kaiser_Sleepsgood luck with questions everyone. have fun04:32
blue-frogoldguy, u need to add lines in common-auth common-account common-session common-passwd04:32
ubuntuhi04:32
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sdakotahow to do $var1-$var2 in bash?04:33
dcshi , got a prob , NETWORKING is not opening , why ?04:33
oldguyblue-frog yes i did..to the letter04:33
ubuntuin spanish04:33
_jason!es04:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:33
skoradcs, did a sudo prompt come up04:33
blue-frogderek[] , can't remember exactly but windows may have put some stuff on the first partition, so if u put unix on it u won't be able to boot windows04:33
dcsnothing comes up04:33
skorawhat version are you using04:33
ubuntu#ubuntu-es04:33
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centrebulletCan someone tell me why everytime I try to run anything under System-->Admin my mouse cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs?04:34
derek[] blue-frog, boot.ini ?04:34
dcs5.1004:34
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skorahmm.04:34
dcscursor goes to busy and then nothing runs04:34
soundrayIs there a way to make Gnome/Metacity show the window dimensions during a resize?04:34
sdakotasoundray: how to do $var1-$var2 in bash?04:34
dcsi keep on double clicking networking but its dead04:34
centrebulletdcs: yeah04:34
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sdakotasoundray: hi, by the way =D04:34
skoradcs, can you even see a list of programs in networking ?04:34
_jasonsdakota, have you tried google?04:35
blue-frogderek[] , maybe, whatever windows needs to boot, if it's on the first parttion and u format it u'll get nowhere then...04:35
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derek[] ..04:35
soundraysdakota, hi, $[$var1-$var2] 04:35
sdakota_jason: I followed a little bash tutorial a few days ago - but can't remember04:35
derek[] blue-frog, thanks for warning04:35
sdakotasoundray: thanks!04:35
blue-frogoldguy move to #bluefrog04:35
fzwartdoes anyone know of an email adress/phone number for contact concerning large ubuntu breezy shipping orders?04:35
dcsi am not talking abt the menu , i am talking abt the real NETWORKING programme , i need to edit my internet settings , configure my modem04:35
centrebulletnothing will run for me under System-->Admin my mouse cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs?04:35
derek[] who's this oldguy you're talking to?04:35
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blue-frogderek[] , someone who needs help04:36
derek[] i don't see him speaking here04:36
sdakotasoundray: /usr/local/sbin/countcompile: line 3: 44-: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "-")04:36
skoradcs, that sounds strange....i don't know. I'd try to see if there's a report about it on bugzilla04:36
oldguyderek{}: i was up i n MOntreal with the ltsp crew04:36
oldguythe oldguy04:36
dcsok thanx04:36
skorafzwart, see https://shipit.ubuntu.com/04:36
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centrebulletAnyone have any ideas why I cannot run anything under System-->Admin?04:36
blue-frogoldguy, move to #bluefrog it will be quieter...04:37
derek[] oldguy, ok04:37
skorafzwart, do you have any questions regarding that ?04:37
oldguylike /join04:37
fzwartskora: i did, but i have a question that's not answered there unfortunately04:37
skorawhat is it04:37
blue-frogoldguy, yes04:37
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dcsubuntu is a good thing for low blood pressure patients , there blood can fly in no time lolz04:37
soundraysdakota, it works here...04:37
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sdakotaodd04:37
fzwarti do, about a specific delivery time to a location in the netherlands for 400 cd's04:37
skorawere the cd's already ordered04:38
fzwartand i'm wondering if it's possible to get the order in time to add the cd to a christmas packet for all employees of the organisation i work for04:38
fzwartno not yet04:38
Syx-TKamping_Kaiser and now?04:38
skorammk04:38
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fzwarti know i'm late , just hoping i'm not too late :(04:38
skorahow much time do you need04:38
sdakotasoundray: sec04:38
skorathem by04:38
fzwartapprox december 15th04:38
oldguyblue-frog: i did /join #bluefrog04:39
oldguyoops04:39
sdakotasoundray: I've got a bash file with 5 lines - gives the error at exact that line, so...04:39
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Syx-Thelloi04:39
Syx-T?04:39
skorafzwart, might be cutting it close...04:39
fzwartyeah, was afraid of that04:39
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soundraysdakota, do you want to pastebin the script?04:39
fzwartbut thought it doesn't hurt to ask if it's possible :)04:39
skorabut if you haven't already, i'd definitely try emailing info@shipit.ubuntu.com and explain your situation to them04:39
afonitanyone familiar with using rsync?04:40
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fzwartok, thank you for the information04:40
skorawelcome :)04:40
Syx-TKamping_Kaiser are you here?04:40
skoragood luck.04:40
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soundrayafonit, I've used it, familiar would be an exaggeration.04:40
sdakotasoundray: first line is #!/bin/bash, next two lines execute a command (`ls *.o | wc -l`), then comes the line "numleft=$[$numo-$numc] ", then it just echoes $numleft...04:40
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Syx-Tcan someone tell me how can I compile and ron a program made in c++ ?04:41
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belouSyx-T, yep04:41
afonitsoundray, do you know which flag to use to get it to delte what has been delted?  ie, in main directory folder a and folder b, rsync, now you have a,b on backup, now if you delete b then do rsync, a,b is still on backup, but only folder a is on main,04:41
Syx-Tbelou: how?04:41
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soundraysdakota, are you sure $numo and $numc are numeric?04:41
soundrayafonit, --delete04:41
Syx-TI have kaht2.c04:41
afonitnot sure how to sync them (the main and the backup) to always reflect the deltedtions, as well as the additions04:41
sdakotasoundray: numo=`ls *.o | wc -l`04:41
sdakotasoundray: think so...04:42
afonitsoundray, isn't delete to deltee a specific file?04:42
Bob332does anyone run ubuntu server on production systems/04:42
afonitok, I will experiment though04:42
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soundrayafonit, no. man rsync04:42
belouso do : gcc -o pouet kaht2.c04:42
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sdakotasoundra: wc returns a number, it's probably captured or outputted as a string - how do i make an integer out of it?04:42
afonitsoundray, ok, i will continue to read, thanks for the timp04:42
soundraysdakota, numo=$(ls *.o | wc -l | tr -d " ") ?04:42
sdakotasoundray: i'll try that04:43
kvanttii wonder if someone knows what to do to get punkbuster for linux enabled for enemy territory? i have used the pbsetup tool, but it says that punkbuster is not enabled for enemy territory..any hints (sorry about off-topic)04:43
sdakotasoundray: still error04:43
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sdakotasoundray: but nevermind, it's not that important.04:43
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sdakotasoundray: I just wanted to see how many files still needed to be compiled in the directory.04:44
soundraysdakota, give me a minute to try over here. I'm sure it'll come in handy...04:44
sdakotasoundray: ok =) thanks04:44
afonitsoundray - awesome, that worked, how does it keep track of what was deleted, is that the os or the rsync keeping track?04:44
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centrebulletOk I'm using Synaptic and want to remove apm but when I mark for removal it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well.  Is there any way to remove packages regardless of dependencies that might be broken?04:44
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soundrayafonit, rsync compares the trees on both sides before syncing.04:45
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afonitsoundray, thanks again04:46
ruzzarHi04:46
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ruzzarIst da jemand04:46
mamoruHello! Is there a text editor for ubuntu, where I can switch the encodings?04:46
Bob332can someone TELL me the default root password on new install04:47
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mamoruBob332, there is no root in ubuntu on new install04:47
MocoI am using totem to play a DVD movie that I made and burned to DVD. It acts as though it is an audio CD, and doesn't show video. What's going on?04:47
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belouBob332, there is no root04:47
ruzzarHello Whats your name04:47
Bob332mamoru, lol04:47
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mamoruBob332, you should use 'sudo'04:48
linkdBob332: u do root operations thru sudo.04:48
martysera04:48
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Bob332linkd, ok04:48
linkdBob332: u can enable root if u *must* (not recommended!) sudo passwd root04:48
linkdbut sudo works fine :D04:48
soundraysdakota, I cannot reproduce the problem. Maybe work around it by piping the subtraction to bc04:48
Bob332linkd, so does my first user have sudo rights to do everything04:48
soundraysdakota, ie., echo $numo-$numc | bc04:48
mamoruBob332, yes, he should04:49
linkdBob332: thats correct04:49
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martysera04:49
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soundrayCan I make evince open with a particular window geometry?04:49
linkdsudo is suid'd meaning when u run sudo it runs with root privledges and executes the commands u disire04:49
Bob332linkd, do you use the server option on any servers? production?04:49
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martyqualcuno saprebbe dirmi come si configurano i temi per gkrellm??04:49
sdakotasoundray: Ok, I'll try04:49
_jasonsoundray, you may have to look into using devilspie for that04:49
linkdBob332: server option? i dont run ubuntu on production servers anyhow04:49
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ruzzarHi martii how are you?04:50
linkdi gotta run to my lecture now anyway so... bye04:50
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jkelly2005i need some help please, i need to install flash for firefox, how can i do it?04:50
soundray_jason, ah, nice one, thank you...04:50
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ruzzarwie bitte04:50
Mocokelly, go to the flash player website and download the tarball.04:51
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aris[glande] Moco, isn't there some kind of autoinstall plugin into firefox ?04:51
aris[glande] or even a package into universe04:51
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_jasonjkelly2005, install flashplayer-mozilla04:51
MocoMaybe so... I installed mine from source.04:51
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theD3viLhi...back .. i have installed ubuntu.. hm..but there isnt beep-media-player in reprosity? wtf? must i add something ?04:52
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_jason!info beep-media-player04:52
ubotubeep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB04:52
jkelly2005i dont think i can install it, im running ubuntu on power pc.04:52
_jasontheD3viL, have you enabled universe repo?04:53
theD3viL_jason, i didnt edit source.list ..04:53
_jasonubotu, tell theD3viL about repos04:53
theD3viL_jason, i figure out..didnt see "#"04:53
_jasontheD3viL, enable the universe repo for BMP04:53
Mabus06!wine04:54
MocoI am using totem to play a DVD movie that I made and burned to DVD. It acts as though it is an audio CD, and doesn't show video. What's going on?04:54
MocoI have libdvd and such, and it isn't encrypted.04:54
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ruzzarHi yvonne bist du da04:54
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ruzzarHi zuen04:55
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efbiedoes someone knows how i can record a gnome session with vnc2swf ?04:57
theD3viL_jason, everything i can choise in synaptic repos .. is STABLE?04:57
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MocoYou have to veiw it over a VNC connection i think04:58
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nick_my adsl connection connected through my router keeps disconnecting and reconnecting, any ideas?04:59
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mintonmanhi05:00
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jsteidlhi05:00
fyrmedicme?05:00
mintonmanI'm in the right place to get some help with ubuntu?05:00
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fyrmedicsupposedly05:01
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mintonmanthere are lots of people here - can some of you answer technical questions - or all asking them!05:01
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frogzoomintonman: just ask - if someone can help, they will05:02
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j-a-pWho's the thin client expert here?05:03
yapycckyhello everyone, i've a question: is normal that in DEvice Manager, when i focus on Processor (and not only that) Under Device i've just "Unknown"05:03
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yapycckysorry for terrible english05:03
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Knight_LordHow can i enable ssh and ftp on my box?05:03
CosmoDadKnight_Lord: install ssh-server and some ftp server05:04
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m0r0nDo you know the command to delete files with certain content? This command doesnt work: find . -type f -name "*.txt" | grep "d" -exec rm -rf {} 2&>/dev/null \;05:05
Knight_LordCosmoDad i'm getting connection refused05:05
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mintonmanOK - I've two (older) machines, both hooked up, via ethernet cable, to a wireless router/switch, both with recently installed ubuntu - one the default install and one the server install. I want them to be able to see each other, and for the server to act as a file (and also print) server. Should I install samba on each (I will want to occasionally connect in my wireless XP laptop), or better to use something else???05:05
CosmoDadKnight_Lord: you mean when you try to connect to the ssh server or when you try to install the server package?05:05
ubuntu_noobis there a better way to install jre for mozilla (ie. through apt) rather than downloading and manually installing from java.com?05:05
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Knight_LordCosmoDad with the normal ftpd it was not working05:06
Knight_LordCosmoDad but it worked with proftpd05:06
theD3viLWhere to get codecs ?05:06
_jasontheD3viL, which ones05:06
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TrackilizerHey guys.05:07
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aris[glande] did you start it ?05:07
CosmoDadm0r0n: what about: find . -type -f -name "*.txt" -exec grep "d" {} && rm -fr {} \;05:07
TrackilizerJust wanted to ask how to delete "Grub" without a DOS diskete.05:07
aris[glande] Trackilizer, fdisk can do that I believe05:07
m0r0nCosmoDad, find: invalid argument `-f' to `-type'05:08
CosmoDadKnight_Lord: aris[glande] 's question is letigimate05:08
TrackilizerEr... what should i do?05:08
CosmoDadm0r0n: sorry -type f05:08
Knight_LordCosmoDad it was not on init.d05:08
Knight_LordCosmoDad but it's working now no problem05:08
giany911does any1 use weather on their start bar ?05:08
CosmoDadKnight_Lord: ok05:08
aris[glande] giany911, i look by my window05:09
CosmoDadgiany911: you mean the gnome panel applet?05:09
theD3viL_jason, w32codecs..05:09
aris[glande] it's rainy and cold05:09
_jasonubotu, tell theD3viL about w32codecs05:09
m0r0nCosmoDad, find: missing argument to `-exec'05:09
Trackilizeraris, what is it i should do?05:09
giany911cosmodad yes nvm ..i didnt know how to choose my location but i got it05:09
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aris[glande] Trackilizer, 2s05:09
CosmoDadaris[glande] : there's an error in your panel applet, it's actually sunny!05:09
theD3viL_jason, why evil?05:09
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lanehi all, i have a quick question05:10
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_jasontheD3viL, I didn't write it but I would assume because they are proprietary05:10
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giany911cosmodad .. do u know where can i get more applets?05:10
CosmoDadm0r0n: maybe you need (escaped?) quotes around the exec part, or remove the " around the 'd', play with it05:10
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CosmoDadgiany911: sorry no clue05:10
theD3viL_jason, what means proprietary? sry.. bad english05:10
laneis it possible to have a global menubar?05:10
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ubuntu_noobanyone familiar with java, jre, and the rest (installing it, mind you)?05:11
giany911cosmodad ok ty05:11
_jasontheD3viL, not open source, microsoft owns them and doesn't share05:11
CosmoDadubuntu_noob: you could install blackdown's implemention of java05:11
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lane@ubuntu_noob - what do you need to know?05:11
theD3viL_jason, eh...good then..05:11
CosmoDadubuntu_noob: it's in the rep05:11
histerikbonjour tou le monde05:11
LjL!anyone05:11
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>05:11
_jason!fr05:11
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais05:11
histerikok05:11
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lane@Anyone: Is it possible to have a global menubar?05:12
sklavest bien on parle le francais dans ubuntu :)05:12
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CosmoDad!tell ubuntu_noob about java05:13
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laneI want my file/edit menus on the top panel instead of in the application (a.k.a. mac os style)  Can I do this?05:13
LjLLane: yes, in KDE. no, in Gnome.05:14
aris[glande] lane, i doubt it's possible05:14
efbieah, i started a vnc server but gnome isn't running in it, how do i run gnome in the vnc server ?05:14
aris[glande] LjL, possible in kde ?05:14
LjLaris[glande] : definitely possible05:14
lanethat sucks, i thought gnome was supposed to be more like mac os and kde like windows05:14
LjLaris[glande] : tho, of course, it only works with kde apps05:14
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mintonmanhow do I set up samba with a workgroup name so windoze can see files on my ubuntu machine?05:15
LjLLane: i don't think that makes sense05:15
lanewell, thems the brakes i guess05:15
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aris[glande] none of them look like mac05:15
lanenot exactly, no05:15
LjLaris[glande] : KDE with the right theme looks a lot like a mac, though :)05:15
lanebut holistically (sp?) in a default install wouldn't you agree?05:15
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LjLaris[glande] , Lane: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/pix/ssp/0.7/bonafide/standardalifinder0rh.jpg05:16
ubuntu_noobmintonman there's a ubunto page on setting that up, but i didn't write it down.  someone else pointed me there.05:16
TrackilizerHow can i not remove but re-install GRUB?05:16
LjLLane: in a default install, neither of them looks nearly like Mac imho. they both remind of windows a little05:16
CosmoDadTrackilizer: sudo aptitude reinstall grub05:17
lanenice screen shot05:17
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melonipoikahi all, when i mount a cdrom or usb hard disk, i can't see then in the desktop (i can see my windopws drive when i mount it) how can i repair this?05:17
TrackilizerCosmoDad, that will install GRUB on master drive?05:17
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frogzooTrackilizer: sudo grub-install05:18
CosmoDadTrackilizer: use grub-install for that05:18
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TrackilizerI tried that, but i get "command not found"05:19
LjLlane: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.shtml here's the gallery for those screenshots. note that the program required to obtain that look (except for icons, i think) is packaged in Ubuntu05:20
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Impotencecan someone give me a hand with my soundcard05:21
Impotence?05:21
rendoI'm trying to run a MUD on 5.10 and when I try the startup I get this. bash: ./startup: bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory05:21
rendo What can I do to get it to work?05:21
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oshhow can I get my [several nasty cursewords]  printer/cups, to stop printing my [the cursewords again]  job? The driver was wrong and now it's just printing gibberish. Resetting the printer doesn't work and stopping the job from cups doesn't either.05:22
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oshthe printer sais it doesn't accept jobs and I can "Cancel job" until my face turns blue. Doesn't stop the fscking printer from wasting paper anyway. :-(05:23
rendoAnyone....? :/05:24
gimmulf Is there anyone in here with experience on running dual monitors(big screen) with an new ATI card, im using 2 different types of monitors but cant figure out how to set different resolutions on them05:24
LjLosh: rm -r -f /var/spool/cups/*      don't try this at home :-)05:24
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priichrendo, have you installed csh ?05:24
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frogzooosh - the printer is printing from it's own memory05:24
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rendoI dunno.05:24
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rendoProbably not.05:25
oshfrogzoo: I was thinking that too, but resetting the printer should purge that, but still it just keeps on printing.05:25
rendoI thought it came base installed....05:25
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priichrendo, you can install it with synaptic if the universe repository is added05:25
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LjLrendo: aptitude install csh05:25
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LjLrendo: ubuntu comes with bash05:25
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rendoI just did that LjL and it did the same thing.05:25
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Trackilizer"sudo grub-install" doesn't seem to work, i get "command not found"05:26
rendoWhere in synaptic do I find csh?05:27
LjLrendo: please, "cat <yourprogram> | head -1", and tell me the result05:27
LjLrendo: if you installed it already using the command line, it's installed already in synaptic as well05:27
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oshLjL: clearing the spool did it. thanks.05:27
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LjLosh: sometimes bad manners are effective ;)05:28
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CosmoDadTrackilizer: do you have grub installed at all?05:28
rendo#!bin/csh -f05:28
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chris__is anyone running the dapper flight #1 cd that has rhythmbox installed05:28
CosmoDadTrackilizer: if not, do that05:28
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Impotencecan anyone help me with my soundcard?05:28
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Impotenceit wont make any sound :>05:28
LjLrendo: that's wrong. change the first line of you program to say   #!/bin/csh -f05:28
rendoLjL: Did the same thing again05:29
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TrackilizerCosmoDad, I do have GRUB istalled but ater uninstalling Fedora core4 i get a GRUB error, so i can't choose between Ubuntu and winxp.05:29
TrackilizerI'm using the live Cd05:29
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LjLrendo: can you paste me again the error it gives please?05:30
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rendobash: ./startup: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory05:30
gohHi may I know the command to get to the blue screen to configure screen resolution?05:30
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CosmoDadTrackilizer: what's the result of "whereis grub-install" ?05:30
LjLrendo: type "ls -l /bin/csh", does it show it?05:30
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LjLrendo: (are you sudo your "sudo aptitude install csh" succeeded?)05:31
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LjLs/sudo/sure05:31
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TrackilizerCosmoDad, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo whereis grub-install05:31
Trackilizergrub-install:05:31
rob_pgoh:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
rendoErr.05:31
rendoNo.05:31
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rendoSays resource tempoarily unavailable.05:31
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LjLrendo: then close Synaptic or whatever package manager you've open, and try again05:32
CosmoDadTrackilizer: apparently, the ubuntu live CD doesn't come with grub-install05:32
thrushTrackilizer: thats a little odd05:32
Zim_256Help, i can't change the permissions of the partition HDA2 (Fat32, win98)05:32
ecobuntuTrackilizer: use a knoppix cd05:32
CosmoDadTrackilizer: type grub -- will it enter the grub shell?05:32
rendoCouldn't find any package matching "csh".  However, the following05:32
rendopackages contain "csh" in their description:05:32
rendo  bash openssh-client openssh-server05:32
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LjLrendo: enable the universe repository05:32
rendoHow?05:32
TrackilizerNope.05:32
LjL!tell rendo about repos05:33
TrackilizerNothing happens.05:33
Trackilizerecobuntu, what should i do once i boot into knoppix?05:33
CosmoDadTrackilizer: go get knoppix05:33
LjLrendo: in few words, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment all the lines saying "universe"05:33
TrackilizerShould i comeback into here once i have knoppix?05:34
gohrob_p: tks!05:34
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LjLrendo: if you also want to enable "multiverse" (could come useful), then do follow the instruction ubotu gave you05:34
thrushTrackilizer: yes easy fix from knoppix05:34
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TrackilizerSo, what should i type once I'm in knoppix?05:34
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LjLrendo: once done, type "sudo apt-get update", and then try installing csh again05:35
TrackilizerSee you guys in a bit, Im booting into knoppix05:35
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oshI don't get it. I just don't. I have no active jobs. I've deleted /var/spool/cups/*, I've removed the printer (from cups), I've reset the printer (nothing in memory) but still it just keeps sprouting out papers. I fscking hate printers now.05:36
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aris[glande] osh, I had same problem05:36
aris[glande] your printer doesn't stop outputing garbage ?05:36
LjLosh: perhaps you've got something sending trash to the printer then... are you sure you chose the correct driver in cups?05:36
osharis[glande] : So you jackhammered the fscker out of existance?05:36
Zim_256Anybody can help me?05:37
sklavosh your probably using the wrong driver05:37
aris[glande] did you manage to print anything right with ubuntu ?05:37
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sklavthat happened to me a while ago05:37
oshLjL: I probably did choose the wrong driver, but I've deleted that now so where does the garbage come from?05:37
rendoTHANK YOU LJL05:37
rendoI EFFING LOVE YOUR BALLS05:37
aris[glande] osh, i had that problem... good driver. worked in gentoo, not in ubuntu05:37
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LjLrendo: ?!05:37
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aris[glande] I managed to make it work by deactivating EPP support into bios05:37
sklavosh which printer if i may ask?05:38
skullb0xby default, in ubuntu, is graphics exceleration on? so I can watch DVD's withjout them being laggy?05:38
oshsklav: Some old HP Laserjet 4L.05:38
aris[glande] osh, the remaining garbage comes from the // output buffer05:38
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sklavskuosh try selecting postscript printer05:38
artashi05:38
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sklavosh try selecting postscript printer05:38
aris[glande] pity, there is not a single application able to flush the buffer05:38
artasi have problem05:38
LjLrendo: i'm not sure if you're trying to insult me, are you?05:38
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SeveasLjL, he already left :)05:39
artasi install g+=05:39
Zim_256Help, i can't change the permissions of the partition HDA2 (Fat32, win98). I boot in root but i can't change the Write permission for anybody but root05:39
artasg++05:39
sklavLjL, i thiunk he loves you05:39
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artashow can i run it??05:39
Seveas!tell Zim_256 about mountwinows05:39
Seveas!tell Zim_256 about mountwindows05:39
aris[glande] artas, g++05:39
artaswhere is it?05:39
aris[glande] artas, g++ is a compiler, not an IDE05:39
artasyes05:39
__filip_when i start ubuntu today all my "desktops" was gone, i meen the 4 you can choose. Somebody know how i can get them back?05:39
artasaaa05:39
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Seveasartas, sudo apt-get install build-essential05:40
CosmoDadZim_256: Fat32 doesn't support owner/access permissions, you'll have to define it globally in /etc/fstab05:40
aris[glande] install kdevelop or anjuta05:40
artasthx05:40
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LjLSeveas: please, try to have universe enabled in Dapper... don't you all see the effect it does on people?! =)05:40
SeveasLjL, impossible05:40
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CosmoDad__filip_: reinstall the virtual desktop gnome panel applet05:40
Seveasubuntu will not ship with community-supported repositories enabled by default05:41
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sklavSeveas, is there a reason for that?05:41
Guest_172hi there! where can i download a snapshot of 6.04?05:41
aris[glande] is there a metapackage that represents the whole packages installed by default on hoary ?05:41
sklavi mean cant it be an option in the installer05:41
LjLSeveas: no, you could give a VERY easy wait to enable them, tho! otherwise, people will keep going crazy as soon as i tell them to edit /etc/apt/sources.list!05:41
sklavdo you want to have unsupported packages available?05:41
SeveasLjL, it IS very easy05:41
LjLSeveas: people must be scared of editors or something05:41
bert_dbhow can i activate numlock in boottime?05:41
Seveasgnome-app-install will automagically do it if you select a universe app...05:42
aris[glande] no it is *not*05:42
Seveasaris[glande] , yes it is :)05:42
aris[glande] the procedure to add new sources, even under synaptics, isn't trivial05:42
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sklavSeveas, debian used to have an option like that a while back in the installer05:42
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Seveasaris[glande] , in dapper that'll be somewhat easier: no more sources.lit05:42
aris[glande] it is not clear that the alredy existing lines are for the cdrom05:42
LjLaris[glande] : not trivial, but definitely easy... i mean, for adding *universe* is easy, since it's just commented out05:42
aris[glande] and you should add one05:42
skullb0xis there any other browser  besides nautilus that will allow me to do smb://ip/ and let me browse my network for shared folders?05:42
LjLSeveas: uh?!05:42
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Seveasskullb0x, konqueror probably05:43
SeveasLjL, sources.list.d/05:43
sklavkonqueror can do it05:43
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Seveasso adding things becomes easier, as well as removing05:43
aris[glande] you should not have to manualy edit a file for a functionnality that 90% end users want05:43
LjLSeveas: oh my godness, you're scaring me05:43
ecobuntuanyone know where i can find a good list of radio stations to use rhythmbox with?05:43
LjLSeveas: i mean, by all means make it easy for people, but please don't make it hard for me =)05:43
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rem_eco -> streamtuner05:44
sklavLjL, have you ever used yum?05:44
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sklavits the same idea05:44
SeveasLjL, sources.list will still be used if you create one05:44
rem_aptitude05:44
Seveasbut the default will be sources.list.d05:44
LjLsklav: no. actually, yes, once.05:44
TrackilizerHere i am again... so what should i do?05:44
ecobuntustreamtuner?  is that another program?  i think rhythmbox is fine05:44
sklavwell it uses the same principal05:44
Seveassklav, but worse05:44
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TrackilizerI do i remove grub?05:44
sklavall you habve to do is example have a file named universe and inside the file the url for apt05:44
sklavworse?05:45
sklavhehe05:45
aris[glande] it would be cool to have a big icon into synaptics "WANT MORE APPLICATIONS?" and it explains the universe thing when you click on05:45
sklavwhat is the point then?05:45
Zim_256david@ubuntu:~$ sudo bash winmac_fstab05:45
Zim_256Password:05:45
Zim_256Sorry, try again.05:45
Zim_256Password:05:45
Zim_256bash: winmac_fstab: No existe el fichero o el directorio05:45
aris[glande] and you just click "ok" and have universe added05:45
Zim_256:(05:45
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thrushecobuntu: streamtuner uses xmms, much better app for internet radio imho05:45
TrackilizerI'm in Knoppix now, so what command should i use to remove GRUB?`05:45
sklavpersonnaly i would if i could add an option during install where there is a checkbox for universe05:45
ecobuntuTrackilizer: i'm googling it right now....05:45
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priichLjL, but you can enable them without editors, in systems/administration/add applications  and goto settings/repositories....05:45
Seveasaris[glande] , ***gnome-app-install does that without button***05:45
thrushTrackilizer: u want to reinstall grub right?05:46
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Seveasand g-a-i is what most new users will use (it's applications -> add applications)05:46
Trackilizerreinstall or remove.05:46
TrackilizerDon't care05:46
thrushTrackilizer: what partion is your ubuntu on?05:46
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ecobuntuanyone running dapper flight cd #1?05:46
Trackilizerhd605:46
ecobuntuwhat's the MOTU irc called?05:46
thrushTrackilizer: ok type sudo grub in terminal05:47
TrackilizerBut GRUB is on the master partition.05:47
TrackilizerWhich is hd105:47
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thrushTrackilizer: not on mbr?05:47
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TrackilizerYes! i think it's on mbr.05:47
sklavhda1 and mbr are differtent05:47
Seveasmbr is the first few sectors of hda05:48
Seveasnot hda105:48
LjLpriich: i see, i don't use gnome, so i don't know about that kind of things05:48
ecobuntugrub is usually on the mb05:48
ecobuntur05:48
DrBairdoes anyone know if its possible to run 2 xservers at the same time off one video card? I'm using the binary nvidia driver if it makes a diference05:48
TrackilizerOk, i really don't want ot sound stupid but i don't know which drive it's on, it's on the drive Ubuntu suggested on boot.05:49
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aris[glande] DrBair, there is a way to do that with nvidia05:49
ecobuntuTrackilizer: it's on the Master Boot Record05:49
aris[glande] if you have 2 screens05:49
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aris[glande] but in fact you start X onces05:49
aris[glande] with 2 "desktops"05:49
aris[glande] you should read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/*05:49
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PDanihi05:49
Trackilizerecobuntu, so how do i remove it?05:50
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DrBairaris[glande] :  I'm trying to get two completely independent X servers going05:50
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soundrayDrBair, aris[glande] , you can start multiple X servers on one and the same videocard-monitor combination.05:50
aris[glande] with same hardware ? same card/screen ?05:50
aris[glande] woaw05:50
Trackilizerroot# grub05:50
Trackilizergrub> uninstall05:50
TrackilizerWill that work?05:50
PDaniare there somewhere ubuntu cd-isos containing the whole repository05:50
ecobuntuTrackilizer: i think you need to run grub-install05:50
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aris[glande] i don't see where it can be useful but good05:51
PDaninot just the bootable install-cd05:51
ecobuntuTrackilizer: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2689.html05:51
priichLjL, i prefer vi or emacs and a console myself but since some people prefer visual aides then i guess it's good it's a good thing taht it is there for them.05:51
soundrayDrBair, go to System Administration Login Screen Setup05:51
DrBairaris[glande] :  soundray: I'm trying to get both monitors going with 2 keyboards and two mice so I can have two users logged on at the same time05:52
Knight_LordIs it possible to have workspace sensitive icons in gnome?05:52
ecobuntuTrackilizer: i think you just need to run grub-install (hd0)05:52
Knight_LordI mean icons that just show up in certain workspaces05:52
aris[glande] DrBair, ok, that can be done with only 1 x server05:52
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aris[glande] with nvidia thingy05:52
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aris[glande] just configure both screens, keyboard, mice05:52
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_jasonis there any way to fix sound not being in sync in flash animations?05:53
aris[glande] and tell which one goes to which other05:53
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DrBairaris[glande] :  you mean with the twinview?05:53
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aris[glande] hmm i'm not sure05:54
aris[glande] i think twinview implies xinerama, which is not what you want05:54
aris[glande] go read the nvidia documentation05:54
fastedgood evening05:54
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DrBairaris[glande] :  I think there might be a way around that actually... thanks for the idea, that may be the ticket05:55
xxenondoes crontab outputs logs ? (what it started, at what time, with commands outputs, etc..)05:55
sklavevening ? you must be in australia05:55
sklavhehe05:55
soundrayaris[glande] , with twinview, you have to turn Xinerama off.05:55
Seveassklav, it's evening in europe too..05:55
sklavHehe05:55
sklavtrue05:55
sklavim greek05:55
Seveas3:55 in australia ;)05:55
sklavand i should know that05:55
aris[glande]         Option "TwinView"05:55
aris[glande] I have that in my xorg.conf05:55
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aris[glande] and I'm using xinerama05:55
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bert_dbhow can i activate numlock in boottime?05:56
soundrayaris[glande] , well, you're lucky then.05:56
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aris[glande] soundray, nope. it's the goodway (tm) to do so05:56
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soundrayaris[glande] , okay, I'll keep out of this. Hope you can help DrBaird.05:57
giany911how can i hv tv time always on top ?05:57
aris[glande] Appendix P. Configuring Multiple X Screens on One Card05:57
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aris[glande] zcat /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz  | less05:58
soundraygiany911, click the left upper window icon and select "On top"05:58
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giany911soundray ty i knew i saw it somewhere:)05:59
Seveasaris[glande] , hint: zless05:59
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_ParaibA_...05:59
sklavSeveas, is it hard to build a deb package?06:00
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aris[glande] Seveas, thx :) less under gentoo detected itself when I was reading a .gz06:00
Seveassklav, not very06:00
sklavi only have experience with rpm06:00
Seveasaris[glande] , that is evil :)06:00
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Seveas(although vim does the same)06:00
sklavim thinking to maybe start doing some package maintenance for ubuntu06:00
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rochvellonhello?06:02
sklavhi06:02
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rochvellonhi there...06:02
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soundrayaris[glande] , man lessfile06:02
rochvellonI have a doubt... What are the minimum system requirements for (k)Ubuntu?06:03
sklavgood question ... i have not met them yet06:03
aris[glande] a computer, 1gb hard disk and 16mb ram i'd say06:03
sklavbut give me a sec and i will see if i can get my hand on that info for you06:03
BlueEagleHow do I re-set all the gnome configurations to the defaults?06:03
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rochvellonok, thanks skalv06:03
BlueEagleI've messed them up pretty badly :(06:03
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thrushrochvellon: have fun running kde on 16mb ram :)06:04
Agrajag16 mb? only if you plan on using no gui at all06:04
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BlueEagles/badly/bad/06:04
rochvellonaris[glande] , are you sure that only 16 mb?06:04
AgrajagI'd say more like 128 if you want to use gnome or KDE06:04
aris[glande] rochvellon, without gfx obviously06:04
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maffjuis it possible to mount iso-images (i used to use daemontools in windows)?06:05
rochvellonoh, ok...06:05
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aris[glande] maffju, yep, it's easy06:05
giany911maffju06:05
maffjuhow?06:05
rochvellonyes06:05
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afabian_I noticed that there isn't an MTA running on my system.  On Debian, I'm used to occasionally getting emails from the package tools, at very least.  Ubuntu doesn't do that?06:05
Agrajagmaffju: mount -t iso9660 image.iso /mnt/mountpoint -o loop06:05
aris[glande] sudo -s mount /path/to/cd.iso /media/cdrom -o loop,ro06:05
aris[glande] argh06:05
maffjuAgrajag: thanks06:05
aris[glande] you were faster :(06:05
rochvellonyou can also get the equivalet of daemon tools for linux, forgot the name...06:05
BlueEaglearis[glande] : You can (in theory) run a server on 16 mb, but that would be limited to an ftp server with 1 login at a time or simple file sharing with samba (or rather nfs if at all possible)06:05
maffjuaris[glande] , thanks06:05
giany911can any1 help me configure lirc?06:06
rochvellonok... thanks!06:06
rendoI have another question concerning the MUD I'm trying to run.  I get this error with my makefile les.o track.o update.o -lcrypt06:06
rendo/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz06:06
rendocollect2: ld returned 1 exit status06:06
rendo.  It's concerning the zlib files for compression and I don't know where they are to install or whatever, help please?06:06
aris[glande] BlueEagle, really depends what you do06:06
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aris[glande] rendo, apt-get install zlib-dev (or) libz-dev06:06
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wyawc2000Hello,everyone.06:06
wyawc2000I first in here....06:07
StRHi all06:07
rendoPackage libz-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:07
rendoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:07
rendois only available from another source06:07
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wyawc2000who will chatting with me.?06:07
StRI have php4 installed with breezy, how can I install both php4 and php5 to work together in the same machine?  thanks06:07
Agrajagrendo: zlib then06:07
BlueEagleStill I need help with resetting the gnome settings. I tried removing the gnome and nautilus directories, but I am still missing the taskbar panel at the bottom :(06:07
Seveaswyawc2000, this is not a chat channel, this is a support channel for Ubuntu06:08
_jasonis there any way to fix sound not being in sync in flash animations?06:08
rendoE: Couldn't find package zlib-dev06:08
B_166-ER-X3 pc linked to each other by a rj45 ADSL hub,  is there a way to make a network ? i heard about samba ?06:08
Seveasrendo, zlibqg-dev06:08
Seveasrendo, zlib1g-dev06:08
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rendoSame thing couldn't find it.06:08
Seveas_jason, yeah, kick some asses at macromedia06:08
rendooh sorrt06:08
wyawc2000Thank you. I know. Now, i using UBu..06:08
Agrajagrendo: you can use apt-cache search <package> to find what you need, also06:08
rendoIt didn't find any of them :(06:09
Agrajagright, but searching for zlib found zlib1g-dev06:09
jouni_Trying to compile kino 0.8 ./configure goes fine until checking for dirname... no configure: error: You need this function to compile kino06:09
wyawc2000I don't know how i can install Jdk in Ub..06:09
gimmulfHi, isnt there Wine for amd64? :(((06:09
Seveas!info zlib1g-dev06:09
ubotuzlib1g-dev: (compression library - development), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 394 kB, Installed size: 576 kB06:09
Agrajaggimmulf: Doubt it.06:09
robotgeekjouni_: sudo apt-get build-dep kino06:10
rendoHrm.... it won't find it :/06:10
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wyawc2000When i install Jdk1.5, the prompt is: you have jre..06:10
wyawc2000help me..06:11
Seveas!info j2sdk-1.406:11
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sklavwyawc2000, check /usr/lib/jre or /usr/lib/java/jre06:12
rendoSorry06:12
rendoPackage zlib1g-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:12
rendoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:12
rendois only available from another source06:12
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wyawc2000Thank you ,sklav...06:12
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wyawc2000sklav, i find in /usr/lib/jvm ---java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0.     but i want to install JDK1.5, how can i do??06:16
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Seveas!tell wyawc2000 about javadebs06:16
jouni_robotgeek  brilliant try, but same error again06:17
wyawc2000sklav, i first use ub, and i don't know what is -gcj??06:17
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wyawc2000avadebs??   what?06:17
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robotgeekjouni_: i have no clue about a dirname (or even what it is, sorry)06:17
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Seveaswyawc2000, ubotu sent you a message06:18
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jouni_dirname comes with core-utils package man dirname. I still can't understand it06:19
wyawc2000thank  you ...06:19
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jouni_I am using hoary does it matter?06:21
musikwhat is this gnubuntu about? plz clarify??06:21
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wyawc2000whether i can add this address in my resource list??  Or, i download my need package?06:21
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johnsie2khow to run a .sh. file?06:22
johnsie2k!.sh06:22
ubotujohnsie2k: Bugger all, i dunno06:22
johnsie2k! .sh06:22
gimmulfHow do i set the enviorment to compille in 32bit?06:22
ubotuI don't know, johnsie2k06:22
gimmulfwhen running amd6406:22
johnsie2k!sheel script06:22
ubotujohnsie2k: Do they come in packets of five?06:22
robotgeekjouni_: sh script.sh or ./script.sh06:22
Zukero i have a question regarding the license on gnome's icon...06:22
trappistjohnsie2k: chmod +x filename.sh then ./filename.sh06:22
Zukero i wanted to know if I could use a few icons in a program under BSD license...06:22
robotgeekjohnsie2k: sh script.sh or ./script.sh06:22
johnsie2kthanksript06:22
robotgeekjouni_: sorry, tab completiong error06:23
johnsie2kthantk06:23
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wyawc2000And i also want to know, how to add enverioument to my jdk?? what file?  /etc/profile??06:23
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wyawc2000sklav,..And i also want to know, how to add enverioument to my jdk?? what file?  /etc/profile??06:24
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felipe_wyawc2000, add the repositories here /etc/apt/sources.list06:25
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jouni_robotgeek ./install-sh: no input file specified.06:25
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johnsie2kwhich opyion? cedega_head_userinstall or cvscedga_head?06:25
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trappistwyawc2000: I do it in my /etc/profile06:25
robotgeekjouni_: ignore that, it was for someone else06:25
londonboi2k3Hi guys, could you tell me where the java package is for breezy? and the other packeges that seem to be missing in Breezy06:25
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trappistwyawc2000: oops, actually I do it in my ~/.bash_profile06:26
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, have you enabled the multiverse/universe repos?06:26
londonboi2k3yes06:26
_jasonubotu, tell londonboi2k3 about javadebs06:26
robotgeekanybody know what player to use to play midi files? i',m looking to try some cellphone ringtones :)06:26
_jasonlondonboi2k3, what other pacakges are you missing?06:26
johnsie2kwhich profile should i download for cedega?06:26
johnsie2kheaduserinstall or head?06:27
londonboi2k3azureus is missing too :)06:27
wyawc2000in slackware, i add in /etc/profi, but in ub, i don't know.   I will try.. ..06:27
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robotgeekubotu: tell londonboi2k3 about azureus06:27
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londonboi2k3robotgeek, thanks06:27
spikebikeubotu: tell spikebike about azureus06:28
wyawc2000how to add address in sources.list, :   http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/06:28
sbishop_is there a way to not let updatedb run, ever?06:28
_jasonwyawc2000, you just download the .deb and install it with: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb06:28
johnsie2kubotu: tell johnsie2k about azureus06:28
etherclearOkay folks, my ubuntu system suffered power failure, the admin account was running at the time.  Now, subsequent attempts at logging into said account fail. The filesystem *seems* fine, as I can log into all the user accounts and operate normally. I'm not sure what is wrong with X. My ~/.xsession-errors file tells me 'Unable to read ICE authority file: /home/*****/.ICEauthority (this pointing to my admin account). Is there a way to recover the account06:29
etherclear? Is X the problem? Any Ideas on what may have happened are welcome as well. Thx06:29
ooPodelete the .ICEauthority file?06:29
_jasonetherclear, delete/rename the iceauthorite file06:29
etherclearmmk06:29
wyawc2000ok , thank you , _jason..    if i want to add it to source.list  , how do?06:30
trappistsbishop_: comment out /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate06:30
sbishop_stellar, thanks06:30
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johnsie2k!azureus06:30
ubotuazureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo06:30
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_jasonwyawc2000, not sure06:31
Guvnori need a quick help on installing 5.10 on a iMac, one of the all-in-one models, which I think were all G306:31
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wyawc2000ok.  ...06:32
londonboi2k3me again :) The flashplayer-mozilla plugin is also not in the repos :(06:32
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deFrysk!tell londonboi2k3 about flash06:33
londonboi2k3 ubotu: tell londonboi2k3 about flashplayer-mozilla06:33
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_jason!info flashplayer-mozilla06:33
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB06:33
wyawc2000in my system have "java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0" , i also can install sun java?06:33
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_jasonubotu, tell wyawc2000 about multijava06:33
TrackilizerJust wanted to say i solved the Grub problem, thanks for all the help guys.06:33
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TrackilizerSee ya.06:33
deFrysk!tell wyawc2000 about multijava06:33
trappistwyawc2000: yes06:34
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sklav!tell sklav about sklav06:34
deFryskshit I am getting rusty :s06:34
sklavhehe06:34
londonboi2k3 ubotu: tell londonboi2k3 about gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse06:35
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wyawc2000I know, thank you everyone.06:36
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, are you having trouble finding these files?06:36
londonboi2k3_jason, yeah I was trying to be cleaver and using the bot ;)06:37
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, once you are registered you can just pm the bot and use the syntax: info packagename.  But these things should be available to you if you have enabled multiverse.  Are you using synaptic or apt?06:37
etherclearokay rming the .iceauthority didnt do it, I still can't log into the account06:38
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londonboi2k3_jason, I have enabled them and im using apt, I uncommented the lines in the sources.list file06:38
_jasonetherclear, still says not enough permissions?  what are the permissions on the file that is there and who is the woner?06:38
_jasonowner*06:38
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, did your do: sudo apt-get update?06:39
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londonboi2k3_jason, yep :)06:39
vbgunzanyone know how to make first connections to a Windows share lightning fast? It currently takes me about 30 seconds to connect to a Windows share. After connecting the connection will sort of stay open for about another 2 minutes meaning I can close ou the share and access it lightning fast in under about 2 minutes. After that time elapses though it takes another 30 seconds to access it again :(06:39
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etherclear_jason Its not a permissions problem, it says 'unable to read'06:39
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ubuntuHI @ ALL06:40
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cazyHullo peeps06:40
londonboi2k3_jason, basiccly I am following the instructions on ubuntuguide, for the old 5.04, im using 5.10 with breezy repos06:40
_jasonlondonboi2k3, would you mind pastebinning your sources.list?06:40
etherclear_jason the account has access I believe, re-checking06:40
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londonboi2k3_jason, sure06:40
_jason!ubuntuguide06:40
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.06:40
aedeshow do I have ubuntu default try to login to an sm share as the current user/pass? or can I put the default in a config somewhere?06:40
_jasonetherclear, someone was having a similar problem a few days ago and it turned out that file was owned by root but it should be owned by the user06:41
etherclear_jason okay, looking into it :)06:41
cazyrandom question: anyone ever had Kerberos auth working, Im getting issues with encryption types and adding the odd omain user to the sudoers list06:41
londonboi2k3_jason, paste bin address http://pastebin.com/44114006:41
wyawc2000just now, i update eclipse, but the system prompt : out of memory.    i have 2G memory..    and / have 9g,  /home 8g.   Why?06:42
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johnsie2k!cedega06:42
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/06:42
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etherclear_jason you are right root has control of it, ty06:43
trappistaedes: use the option credentials=filename - for the format, man smbmount06:43
_jasonlondonboi2k3, you don't have mutliverse enabled06:43
londonboi2k3_jason, oh /slaps myself06:43
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, notice how your lines with mutliverse say "breezy-backports" instead of "breezy"06:43
aris[glande] hey06:43
NewUbuntuI'm having a small problem.  zlib.a isn't located in /usr/bin how do I get it there?06:43
aris[glande] what's the name of the app that generates /boot/grub/menu.lst ?06:43
londonboi2k3_jason, so they need to say just breezy06:43
_jasonlondonboi2k3, on lines 29 and 30 change "breezy-backports" to "breezy"06:44
cazysheesh; that was one BREEZY badger, got to remember prawns don't agree with my bowls :-P06:44
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, then you are going to have some repetition in there06:45
_jasonlondonboi2k3, you may want to use source-o-matic to create a new one if you aren't comfortable cleaning it up06:45
_jasonubotu, tell londonboi2k3 about easysource06:45
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londonboi2k3_jason, its cool I cant clean it, is it lines 38 39 that need to go?06:45
londonboi2k3_jason, can clean it i mean :)06:46
aedestrappist, smbmount doesn't even seem to be installed06:46
trappistaedes: you are talking abount samba shares, right?06:46
aedesyes06:46
trappistsudo apt-get install smbfs06:47
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aedesand really its more general, in that I want automatic smb authentication (not just for shares)06:47
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, okay easiest way may be for you to jsut add "multiverse" to lines 19 and 20.  Then leave 29 and 30 for backports.  I believe lines 38 and 39 can be disabled.06:47
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aedestrappist, I'm sure I don't need that since I can view them through the browser already, but I have to enter a pass06:47
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trappistaedes: ah, I'm not sure I know enough about samba to help you there, but you'll probably need to set up a samba domain controller to authenticate against.06:48
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londonboi2k3_jason, thanks, have now cleaned it06:49
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_jasonlondonboi2k3, k, make sure it works then I'm off to lunch06:49
aedestrappist, that might be one way of going about it, but another would be for ubuntu to automatically try to auth with the current user/pass06:49
aedesor a specified one06:49
NewUbuntuI'm having a small problem.  zlib.a isn't located in /usr/bin how do I get it there??06:49
londonboi2k3_jason, yep its all working now, thanks for you help and have a good lunch ;)06:49
_jasonlondonboi2k3, yw and thanks06:50
afabianNewUbuntu, zlib.a looks like a static version of the zlib library.  It .. wouldn't go in /usr/bin for any good reason.  man 7 hier06:50
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DuDE27hi, are there any drivers for the brother mfc 860?06:51
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NewUbuntuWell what can I do about it then?  My Makefile keeps saying -lz is missing.06:52
wyawc2000in my gaim, it isn't QQ, but i want to add it in Gaim , how do????06:52
NewUbuntuAnd if I remove -lz from my Makefile, it gives me missing deflate for compression06:52
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NoUseNewUbuntu what are you trying to compile?06:52
ardchoilleWTF?  --> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z46s6E19.html06:52
NewUbuntuA MUD.06:52
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NoUseNewUbuntu are they no suitable ones in synaptic?06:53
NewUbuntuNot that I can see.06:53
NoUseNewUbuntu which one are you compiling?06:53
Zukeroardchoille : i guess root can do ANYTHING06:53
NewUbuntuIt's smaug based.06:54
ardchoilleZukero: I noticed on Fedora that root cannot alter a read only file06:54
NoUseNewUbuntu there are a few different muds in synaptic, if you are new to ubuntu you probably shouldn't be compiling stuff06:54
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boa-changetting an error06:54
boa-chanon this06:54
boa-chanhttp://pastebin.com/44115806:54
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NewUbuntuIt compiled fine on windows with cygwin and not it won't on Linux :/06:55
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NoUseNewUbuntu you probably need dev zlib packages06:55
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boa-chananywho06:56
boa-chanif someone could look at that error fo rme06:56
bambooHi, I'm installing svn on a fresh ubuntu system but I can't seem to find libapache2-svn06:56
boa-chanthanks06:56
NewUbuntuI tried getting those zlib1g-dev right? It said it's in some other package or something.06:56
tanja!w32codecs06:56
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/06:56
NoUse!info zlib1g-dev06:56
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ubotuzlib1g-dev: (compression library - development), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 394 kB, Installed size: 576 kB06:56
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NoUseNewUbuntu try again and pastebin the specifc error message06:57
tanjaFor what is used libdvdcss ?06:57
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NoUsetanja decrypting DVDs for viewing06:57
NewUbuntupastebin?06:57
NewUbuntuwhat's that?06:57
NoUse!tell NewUbuntu about pastebin06:57
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boa-chaneveryone on linux should have heard of pastebin06:58
NewUbuntuI did it I think.06:58
afabianNewUbuntu, there's a howto on compiling software.  The -lz in the makefile, I *believe* tells the linker to look for libz.a in the library include paths.  It can get messy, sometimes, finessing include paths for libraries and headers, and adapting for library naming differences and such.06:59
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boa-chananyone able to help me ?07:00
NewUbuntuI know afabian, that's what I mean, it's not located where it needs to be so it won't compile properly.07:00
wyawc2000how to change rpm to .deb package???07:00
afabianThe older the code is, the worse it is.07:00
NoUseNewUbuntu your sources.list is messed up, get the sources file ubotu is about to send you07:00
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chrissturmhow do i reconfigure grub after moving the /boot/ directory to another partition? i already purged and reinstalled it, but i still get a grub> prompt at startup, instead of a list of kernels. is this documented somewhere?07:01
afabianNewUbuntu, man ld will tell you how to mess with the include path.  (-I to the compiler, I think, gets passed on to the linker.)  Get the package with the library, look at the actual name of the library in /usr/lib, try adapting the -l accordingly.  There's something weird about zlib, I usually have to mess with that one a little when I compile stuff.  It's been a while.07:02
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cocoxhi there, im trying to start a service but my shell tells me "command not found" any suggest ?07:02
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manveruhey guys, someone knows what happened with alsaconf in ubuntu?07:02
NoUseNewUbuntu just fix your sources.list and install zlib1g-dev and you should be fine07:02
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afabiancocox, use the /etc/init.d/script interface.07:02
afabian/etc/init.d/service start07:02
NewUbuntuHow do I fix my sources? :/07:02
Oetzicocox: try to find command manual07:02
NewUbuntuI'm so dumb :(07:02
tidineed to open a busness card done in a draw program07:02
mamoruhi! what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met"07:02
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NoUseNewUbuntu I told you, get the ones ubotu sent you07:03
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Oetziand look whether the path is in your searchpath07:03
NoUseNewUbuntu copy the one ubotu links to over your current /etc/apt/sources.list07:03
ubuntuwhat are ubuntu's system requirments?07:03
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NoUseubuntu there aren't any official ones I don't think, what is your machine?07:04
Guilehi all, installed ubuntu on a machine with no internet connection, and it doesn't let me run any command using sudo, complaining about a unable to lookup my machinename: getbyhostname(). any ideas?07:05
ubuntuthing is, i'm runing it un a 2.6GhzP4 and its perfect but i need to install it un a 333Mhz PCeleron with 128Mb ram07:05
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cocoxafabian, Oetzi ubuntu have any command similar to service ?07:05
mamoruubuntu, http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02.html07:05
pravnaplavusa89who is a from SERBIA???07:05
bambooany ideas on how I get dav_svn installed on breezy?07:05
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cocoxafabian, i dont have any "script interface" at my /etc/init.d directory ...07:06
pravnaplavusa89ima li hrvataaaaaaa07:06
pravnaplavusa89?07:06
pravnaplavusa89srba07:06
pravnaplavusa89slovenaca?07:06
soundrayubuntu, I was running Ubuntu on a Celeron 300 with 192 MB RAM. With Xubuntu, it worked reasonably well, but I turned it into a thin client since.07:06
pravnaplavusa89:)07:06
Mitjapravnaplavusa89: slovenaca07:07
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ubuntuwhat do you mean with a "thin client"07:07
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thrushGuile: hostname command responds with computer name right?07:07
afabiancocox, cron is a daemon, there's an /etc/init.d/cron .. which you can use like /etc/init.d/cron restart.  I assume you mean "service" in a RedHat or Windows-eqsue sense, which UNIX is more likely to call a daemon.  There should be a script in /etc/init.d if it starts at boot.07:07
NoUseubuntu you might look into xubuntu, its based on xfce which is lighter than gnome, if you search wiki.ubuntu.com you'll find some info07:07
Guilethrush: yes07:07
cocoxafabian, Oetzi sorry the real question is .. im trying to use the "SERVICE" command but it seems not to be here in ubuntu07:07
soundrayubuntu, all the applications run on a beefier terminal server. The Celeron machine just displays the X Window output.07:07
ubuntuok07:08
intelikeyany idea why x would only start for root ?07:08
ubuntuim lookin at the xubuntu  wiki07:08
soundrayubuntu, probably a good place to start.07:08
Oetzicocox: oh i see07:08
afabiancocox, never heard of it.07:08
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Guiletrying to look for info on the wiki but I'm on a 56k connection :(07:09
intelikeyi get this fatal error; xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root07:09
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Oetzicocox: you are right there is no service command like fedora has07:09
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cocoxOetzi, yeah man i dont know maybe ubuntu have a similar command07:10
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chrissturmhow do i reconfigure grub after moving the /boot/ directory to another partition? i already purged and reinstalled it, but i still get a grub> prompt at startup, instead of a list of kernels. is this documented somewhere?07:10
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intelikeycocox what did SERVICE do in fc# ?07:10
afabianUbuntu uses SysV style runlevels, like most major Linux distributions (including Fedora), update-rc.d is a command-line management tool, used in conjunction with looking at the scripts in /etc/rc?.d07:10
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pravnaplavusa89ima neko da se razumemo na srpski???07:11
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aj_ok i messed up my ubuntu installation07:11
boa-changood job07:11
afabianI don't really like SysV-style init scripts, but... well, I'm not going to run Slackware, or write my own, so that ends that.07:11
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aj_i tried to install cairo from cvs and now everything gtk is broken is there a way to just re-install all breezy packages?07:11
misthello i request backup! ive rebooted my system and now i cant login anymore.. i just can start the console and start some applications .. like xchat and synaptics.. i paste the consoleoutput in the next seconds plz standby.07:11
cocoxintelikey, you mean fc# ( fedora core x ) ?? well if yes.. this command is used for stop or start a service07:11
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thrushGuile: if u cat /etc/hosts is your hostname presetn on same line as 127.0.0.1?07:12
Mabus06when somoene downloads a file from you via a p2p program is there a way to detect their ip address?07:12
tanjaMabus06, yes07:12
cedrichi! i was woundering how can i receive my hotmail email, into evolution07:12
Oetziintelikey: it's somehow like a daemon managment07:12
aedestanja, not necessarily07:12
djm62My laptop had a slight regression under breezy: the default for acpi sleep changed to none, it works perfectly with /etc/defaults/acpi changed.  How and to whom should I report it?07:12
misthave to close the xchat because i just have one console brb!07:12
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aj_is there a channel for dapper?07:12
aedeswell it depends if Mabus06 means the ultimate recipient or not07:12
intelikeycocox yes ub has a command for that.07:12
tanjaaedes, you can always detect ip when some file sending you or reciving07:13
infamusanyone here use GTK+ for their desktop themes?07:13
cocoxintelikey, can u plz tell me what is it ?07:13
Oetziand it do the same as /etc/init.d/DAEMONNAME start/stop...07:13
Mabus06tanja, how07:13
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Guilethrush: IIRC, cat returns 127.0.0.1 localhost07:13
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intelikeycocox no cause i don't recall it,  but i have seen it.07:13
kooolwhat can be used to copy DVDs, also with CSS? Thanks07:13
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Guilethrush: installed as dual boot, I'm on windows now :|07:14
aedestanja, not with some ip trickery (but it would require quite a bit of control of the network)07:14
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mamoruhi! what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met". Are there any packages i must install?07:14
aj_does anyone know how to use apt to do a dist-downgrade kinda thing i want to downgrade to breeezy i tried to use dapper and things are even worse07:14
aedesMabus06, try;  netstat -tp07:14
thrushGuile: not sure how u will edit that withou sudo but it needs to read like:127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost    hostname07:14
arpanhi, i have a hp deskjet 656C and am on breezy.07:14
boa-chanisnt breezy newer than dapper07:14
aj_no07:14
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intelikeyaj_ down grade?07:14
boa-chanyou sure07:14
aj_dapper is 6.0.407:14
Oetzidowngrade to breezy???07:14
boa-chanis that beta07:14
thrushGuile: try livecd and mount ubuntu partiion to edit07:14
trappistcocox: there's no 'service' command - you just /etc/init.d/servicename action07:14
mamoruboa-chan, dapper is not out yet07:14
boa-chanoh07:15
arpani need to print something urgently but am unable to do so07:15
boa-chan:)07:15
mamoruofficialy07:15
afabianaj_, you have to restore your last backup.07:15
arpancan anyone help?07:15
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pravnaplavusa89svi se tornjajte osim SRBA I HRVATA I SLOVENACA:P07:15
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aj_lol i didn't know i was backing anything up07:15
boa-chanenglish please07:15
arpanwhen i ask my printer to print a test page even that dont work!!!07:15
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intelikeytrappist there is a command tho.....  wish i remembered the name.....07:15
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sobersabrehi. which kernel image should I boot with for IntelD CPU ?07:15
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sobersabreD=dual07:15
infamus!tell infamus about GTK+07:15
afabianaj_, if you didn't do it manually, you don't have a backup.  It was kind of a joke.  Downgrading isn't supported.07:15
Guilethrush: will try windows software to read the ext3 partition07:15
HappyFoolintelikey: invoke-rc.d ?07:16
ompaularpan, have you set up the printer?07:16
arpani think so07:16
intelikeyyeah invoke07:16
infamus!tell infamus about GTK07:16
intelikeyhehhe07:16
aj_oh so i'm screwed?07:16
aj_basically i can't start gdm07:16
mamoru!tell mamoru about GTK+07:16
arpani went thru the new printer sh*t07:16
aj_can't install kdm07:16
aj_gdm broke in breezy hoping dapper would at least let me login07:16
mamoru!tell mamoru about GTK07:16
infamusanyone here use gtk for thier themes?07:16
mamoru!tell mamoru about gdk07:16
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cocoxOetzi, trappist, intelikey, afabian, thnx u guys i got it... for start a service in ubuntu i should do for example if my service is "squid" i should do "sudo squid start" thnx u all!!07:16
intelikeycocox man invoke-rc07:16
ompaularpan, less langu*ge, more work, start here ->  system -> administration -> printing07:17
mamoruhi! what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met". Are there any packages i must install?07:17
St-lilo, ;)07:17
trappistcocox: that's not analogous to service07:17
afabianaj_, I'm not too sure.  I used Debian for a while, then Ubuntu.  I think the package tools expect increasing version numbers and don't go back.  You could try changing your sources list back and doing a dist-upgrade or something.. but... I'm not even sure it would downgrade any packages.07:17
trappistcocox: if the 'squid' executable takes 'start' as an option, that's fine07:17
Mabus06aedes, is it the foreign address column?07:17
aj_yeah someone mentioned about putting some stuff in /etc/apt/preferences07:18
arpanompaul, shud i go thru adding a new printer afresh???07:18
sobersabre] 07:18
aj_i just don't get it07:18
ompaularpan, well tell me what is in there for a start07:18
aj_gdm comes up but the cursor just keeps spinning07:18
ompaularpan, does that show a printer?07:18
afabianaj_, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html  it looks like you could pin packages or something.  the results would likely be unpredictable, because..well, downgrading isn't supported. =)07:18
aj_and i don't have any errors in /var/log07:18
sobersabrehas anybody answered my q. about the CPU and image ?07:18
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arpanno, i had created it a while ago07:18
aj_is there a way to re-install breezy without formatting?07:19
ompaularpan, then you don't have a printer, so click on new printer07:19
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cocoxintelikey, there is not any command called "invoke-rc"07:19
ompaularpan, is it a usb printer?07:19
arpanya07:19
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intelikeyanyone got a clue why i get this fatal error; xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root       when startx by user ?07:19
afabianaj_, yeah.  could leave extra junk on your system, but you have the option of not formatting partitions during the install.07:19
aedesMabus06, yes07:19
intelikeycocox add .d07:19
arpanbut how should i know what number the usb is?07:19
xaduxhello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this happend?07:19
intelikeycocox man invoke-rc.d07:19
ompaularpan,  okay, have you started that tool and chosen the add click on the add a printer?07:19
Mabus06aedes, the value isn't in a clear form to me, is it in hexidecimal or something?07:19
aj_ok i think thats my only option unless i start compiling everything from source which could get messy with apt and everything07:20
arpanyes ompaul07:20
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ompaularpan, does it detect a printer?07:20
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cocoxintelikey ok now i got it thnx u !!!07:20
arpanu mean under 'use detected a printer'?07:20
ompaularpan, yes and also is the printer local?07:20
arpanno, ompaul it dont07:20
cdubyais there anyway to setup an unsupported inkjet as a printer for Breezy that is setup via CUPS on an OS X box?07:21
arpanya, i have only 1 machine at home07:21
ompaularpan, so is the local button or network button pressed?07:21
intelikeycocox there is another command for adding/removing services methinks07:21
ompaularpan, it should be local07:21
arpanlocal07:21
aedesis there a way to find out what files a package installed?07:21
xaduxhello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this happend?07:21
sobersabreguys is there a pentium D supporting kernel image for ubuntu ? ( 64 bit )07:21
sobersabre?07:21
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cocoxintelikey really ? what is it ?07:21
trappistcocox: try this: alias service="invoke-rc.d"07:21
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intelikeyyou would ask....07:21
arpanwhat should i choose under 'use another print by specific port?07:21
sobersabreI can see only 1 CPU. this should be 2 I think07:21
arpanompaul, what should i choose under 'use another print by specific port?07:22
ompaularpan, we have to do something so can you do forward ? ;-0-07:22
ompaularpan, we have to do something so can you do forward ? ;-)07:22
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pravnaplavusa89CKAPIIIIIIIIIIIIII07:22
M`u`t`eHEY ALL07:22
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trappistaedes: dpkg -L packagename07:22
arpanbut ompaul it was working earlier! that is the last time i had installed it07:22
M`u`t`ei tried to play amp3 it said it needs a plugin , where can i get packages ?07:22
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xaduxhello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this happend?07:23
intelikeycocox maybe update-rc.d07:23
trappist!tell M`u`t`e about mp307:23
ompaularpan, if it did not show in that previous box then it is not available, and you would not be here07:23
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M`u`t`ethanx , is there any universal package with all ubuntu packages etc ?07:23
cocoxtrappist, intelikey ok guys thnx u for your time! i will check this others commands man :)07:24
concept10Anyone have success with Opera on breezy?  My install will looks for plugins every start.07:24
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villerhi07:24
ecobuntuwow dapper is crazy right now07:24
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villercould someone give me an example of the chmod command, i can't use it myself :S im so bad07:24
ecobuntumy firefox is called Deer Park...lol07:24
boa-chanlol07:25
ompaulecobuntu, is the name for a devel version of ff07:25
thrushviller: chmod 777 -fr / :)07:25
trappistthrush: don't do that07:25
thierryecobuntu : crazy how? dapper is in devlopement right now... it's normal that strange thing happens...07:25
villerthrush: whats fr?07:25
trappistviller: don't do it.07:25
thrushviller: syntax was wrong anyway07:25
ompaulviller, no do not do that07:25
thrushdont do that I was just kidding07:25
trappistthrush: not funny.07:25
villerompaul; trappist; thrush: -r is right?07:25
trappistno, -R07:25
arpanompaul, if i ignore the options there and go to the next stage (by hitting forward),  and i choose hp then deskjet 656C, it pops up a driver07:26
xadux hello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some07:26
xadux               days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this07:26
xadux               happend?07:26
villerit was funny07:26
aj_yeah dapper isn't even ready for beta testing really i just installed it to see if i could fix something i apparently broke07:26
arpanshould that help us?07:26
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villerif you're he admin of this place you prolly see my ip and then h4x0r to my comp right :)07:26
ecobuntuthierry: i know...i guess i mean fun...cause i like it when things don't work automatically and i get to play to get things to work :)07:26
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cdubyaM`u`t`e, you mean for the mp3 support? I got it by doing something like this: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins07:26
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ecobuntuompaul: i see...that's a fun name for it07:26
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thierryecobuntu : don't forget to submit patch of your work...07:27
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M`u`t`ethanx , do i need to download it , or is it already available in ubuntu ?07:27
intelikeyviller (n=viller@84-50-165-205-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee  <--- that ip ?07:27
ompaulecobuntu, talk to mozzilla :)07:27
xaduxcan anybody help me?07:27
thierryecobuntu : if you fix broken stuff this can help developper (if your not already one)07:27
ompaularpan, so choose that07:27
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ecobuntuthierry: it's not really broken...i.e. upgrading to 2.6.15 i need to run sudo modprobe orinoco_cs to get my wireless to work etc.07:28
ompaulmozzerilla hmmm07:28
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thierryxadux : don't know... maybe you have some bad option turned on when adding the new user07:28
ecobuntuthough gdebi is broken07:28
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wyawc2000I have download sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.  And the next how do...07:28
mistcan someone help me.. when i try to login or when i try to make "startx" it says its already running on display 0 .. what can i do.. consoleoutput says i should remove /tmp/.X0-lock when i do "rm -r /tmp/.X0-lock" and try it again to login it does not work again.. :(07:28
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villerintelikey: :D07:28
SEXYGIRLHI07:29
xaduxthierry: for example, what option do you thing could be wrong?07:29
thierryecobuntu : k... but check for a ubuntu bug about that... just telling it in bugzilla could help fixing it and making other people wireless like yours work like magic07:29
SEXYGIRL:))07:29
thierryxadux : don't know07:29
mistiam using ubuntu breezy badger07:29
villeri did some chmoding and now i can't see panels in metacity XDXD07:29
aj_hi pravna07:29
xaduxok man, thanks07:29
SEXYGIRLHI07:29
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aj_lol07:29
ubuntubrasnet.org07:29
villeri can see windows but not panels07:29
ubuntu:S07:29
wyawc2000This is my first use ub. so i ask a basic question..  how install sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.07:29
aj_lay off the caps07:29
ompaulecobuntu, talking about dapper would be better in #ubuntu-offtopic as this is a support channel for released stuff - supporting dapper and making people even think about dapper at this time is not appropriate unless they are developers and can understand the risk07:29
Smofhey all. I use Arson to rip/burn CDs, but right now I can only rip songs into .wav format, it says it can't do .mp3 cos I don't have an encoder. Tried to find something in the package manager but I don't really know what I'm looking for. any suggestions?07:29
mamoru!tell mamoru about anjuta07:30
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ecobuntuompaul: ok i'll stop :)07:30
Mabus06aedes, sorry what did you say? i dced07:30
ompaulecobuntu, thanks :)07:30
ecobuntunp07:30
wyawc2000only tell me the common, and how to set his environment...07:30
ecobuntui understand ;)07:30
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_jasonmamoru, what's your question about anjuta?07:30
mamoruwhat is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met". Are there any packages i must install?07:30
SEXYGIRLAJ -PVT:))07:31
intelikeyanyone got a clue why i get this fatal error;' xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root '  on ub 5.4  when i startx as user ?07:31
djm62mamoru: you need the gtk -dev packages07:31
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djm62mamoru: I'd recommend apt-get build-dep gaim (or some other gtk prog)07:32
intelikeycan anyone help me trubble shoot this ?07:32
djm62intelikey: have you chmod-ed the x binary?07:32
intelikeythis is a fresh install07:32
ecobuntuintelikey: maybe you need to reconfigure x?07:32
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soundrayintelikey, it looks like your X installation hasn't completed.07:32
mamorudjm build-dep gaim?07:33
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intelikeyx runs for root just fine tho07:33
mamorudjm62, build-dep gaim?07:33
soundrayintelikey, first do a dpkg --pending --configure for sanity.07:33
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wyawc2000I have download sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.  And the next how do... how to set environment??07:33
djm62mamoru: installs the packages you need to compile gaim (and hence, probably whatever project you want to do)07:33
intelikeydone07:33
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intelikeyno error07:33
mamorudjm62, thx, gonna try07:33
intelikeysoundray  ^07:33
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djm62intelikey: how come you have root on a fresh install?07:34
Siph0nhey, im havin some trouble trying to find a string from a file in a directory... ne ideas?07:34
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wyawc2000Why no there is no person tell me.....??07:34
wyawc2000I have download sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.  And the next how do... how to set environment??07:34
intelikeycause i wanted to set the root password djm62,  so i did07:34
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Seveaswyawc2000, sudo dpkg -i sun*.deb07:35
Seveasand done :)07:35
djm62ah, ok, I thought the install was broke07:35
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cdubyawhat's the name of the kde print manager package?07:35
intelikeydjm62 i don't think so.07:35
wyawc2000Thank you.. and how to set environment?07:35
SnakeChompI just did an install of 5.10, but it never asked me for the root password, and I have no clue what it is. how can I remedy this situation07:35
mamorudjm62, oh yes, it told me that i must download 14.1 MB of archives :O07:35
intelikeybut x wont run for users  only root07:35
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soundrayintelikey,  ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/X should show -rwsr-sr-x as permissions. Does it?07:36
djm62mamoru: only the once ;)07:36
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_jasonubotu, tell SnakeChomp about root07:36
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intelikey-rwsr-sr-x  1 root root 7664 2005-04-05 11:06 /usr/X11R6/bin/X07:36
mamoruubotu, what is dapper?07:36
ubotumamoru: what are you talking about?07:36
NoUsemamoru ubotu is a bot07:37
NoUse!dapper07:37
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake07:37
Seveas!drake07:37
ubotumethinks drake is a dragon07:37
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|Wanted|Ciao a tutti07:37
mamoruthx, got it07:37
|Wanted|hello all07:37
Seveas|Wanted|, stick to english in here07:37
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Mabus06aedes, sorry what did you say? i dced07:38
Dasnipa!badger07:38
ubotubadger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom! mushroom! http://www.badgerx3.com07:38
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intelikeysoundray anything else ?07:38
soundrayintelikey, thinking...07:38
Siph0nso ne ideas how to search a directory for a string in a file?07:38
zAo^how can I see the URL of a pkg using apt?07:38
intelikeyx will run without sudo wont it ?07:38
|Wanted|excuse me Seveas07:39
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zAo^yes infamus07:39
soundrayintelikey, it should normally.07:39
mamoruintelikey, it should07:39
SeveaszAo^, apt-cache policy $package07:39
zAo^thnx Seveas07:39
soundrayintelikey, did you do a server install?07:39
djm62intelikey: did any error messages come up during the install?07:39
SeveasSiph0n, grep 'string' /path/to/dir/*07:39
aj_does anyone here know how to fix a gdm issue where it the screen flashes and the cursor just spins07:39
zAo^Seveas, and full URL? :$07:39
Siph0nthanx07:40
SeveaszAo^, eh right07:40
aj_if i try to do startx it will just show the gnome screen but nothing happens really and closes out of X07:40
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intelikeysoundray yeah had too.  space is limited.  but on reboot when it configured everything i apt-got gnome and x07:40
Seveasapt-cache show | grep ^File07:40
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djm62aj_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would be a good first try07:40
soundrayintelikey, did you apt-get install x-window-system-core ?07:40
Seveasbut you need to combine these 2 :)07:40
MitjaDoes anyone know if there's a log of apt activities?07:41
SeveasMitja, there isn't - unless you used aptitude07:41
MitjaI uninstalled too much and now I have no desktop.07:41
intelikeydjm62 no errors but this xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root error.07:41
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djm62intelikey: nothing during install?07:41
MitjaSeveas: yes, Adept07:41
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Echelon-H#xchat07:41
christian_hello there07:41
intelikeysoundray it isn't missing files.  gnome runs for root.07:41
cocoxanyboidy knows if is necesary to use SAMBA for share an internet connection between a linux (squid proxy server) and a windows (client) ??????07:41
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Seveascocox, samba and connection sharing are totally unrelated07:42
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MitjaSeveas: I used gui - adept, does that keep a log?07:42
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intelikeysoundray or maybe i should just say   'yes'07:42
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SeveasMitja, no idea, I don't use adept07:42
djm62Mitja: you could install ubuntu-desktop07:43
djm62Mitja: that depends on everything you need for a desktop07:43
Mitjadjm62: thanks07:43
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wyawc2000i have been install sun*.deb,  but when i compile it can through, but exe couldn't..07:43
cocoxSeveas, really ? so how can me windows pc (192.168.1.3) view my proxy server(192.168.1.2) in my own network ?07:43
MitjaI would like to know where install log is anyway.07:43
djm62Mitja: or pick whatever X app you like and install that, and all the dependencies to make it run will be pulled in07:43
ecobuntu!tell wyawc2000 about javadebs07:43
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wyawc2000it prompt  java commond couldn't find..07:43
wyawc2000i have download...07:44
peadothi07:44
soundrayintelikey, you said you were using startx - does X by itself give you the same error?07:44
Seveascocox, by connecting to it...07:44
wyawc2000and installed..07:44
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wyawc2000just now..07:44
peadotneed german unbuntu support... anyone maybe?07:44
Seveas!de07:44
ubotuI heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de07:44
intelikeysoundray yep    xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root07:44
Smofso can anyone tell me an mp3 encoder I might need? Or should I already have one?07:44
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ecobuntuwyawc2000: and it wouldn't work?07:44
MitjaWhere does apt keep its uninstall log?07:44
Seveas!no de <reply> is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de07:44
ubotuSeveas: okay07:44
cocoxSeveas, sure i know but my windows pc cant see the proxy.. i make a ping between and nothing happens.. :(07:44
peadot#ubuntu-de07:44
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Seveaspeadot, /join #ubuntu-de07:45
peadothmmpf... ok, i'm also new to irc... *g*07:45
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wyawc2000yes. my java couldn't exe file..07:45
Seveaswyawc2000, what was the error?07:45
peadotthx, bye fellas07:45
wyawc2000javac hello.java can through .. but java hello, it prompt couldn't find java commond..07:45
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djm62Smof: you want gstreamer0.8-plugins07:46
soundrayintelikey, was your non-root user created with all the proper groups?07:46
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djm62Smof: I think07:46
justmeErm.. I know this sounds like a total newbie question but I am a total newbie ;) How do you change your screen resolution in KDE? I went to the desktop and chose the configure option, display and the only options are 640x480 or lower. I downloaded Xorg which someone said would help but I'm kinda lost now.07:46
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Mitjadjm62: lol, 512 MB off the net!07:46
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djm62Mitja: wow! is most of it not cached? (on your disk still)07:46
zwalkertdoes anyone here use ximian under ubuntu to connect to a microsoft exchange server?07:47
Mitjadjm62: I don't know anything about cache.07:47
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Mitjadjm62: I guess apt is set up the way it installs everything from the net.07:47
wyawc2000i run : update-alternatives --config java, and selected it..07:47
intelikeysoundray djm62 mamoru   i found it.         /  mounted  'nosuid'   hehhe it was ignoring +s    :)07:47
cdubyawyawc2000, have you tried to run the file with the full path and see if that works.....?07:47
Mitjadjm62: How should I point it to cache?07:48
djm62intelikey: you might want to file a bug if it installed like that07:48
soundrayintelikey, arrgh!07:48
xoredi installed eclipse but he says, i have no JVM. But i installed JDK5 before, and my other Programms can be started by "java -jar name"07:48
|Wanted|i have a problem (how all)07:48
intelikeythere was options on how to mount the partition and i set that....07:48
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wyawc2000full path??  how to run?  Sorry, i don't know...07:48
intelikeyit is an install choice,  and if you choose it you can't use any suid stuff.....07:49
Smofthanks djm6207:49
cocoxi configured SQUID in my ubuntu(proxy) for share internet connection with my windows(client) pc but the windows pc cant see the proxy.. any ideas ??07:49
cdubyawyawc2000, did you install the .deb or what, sorry, I missed that....07:49
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wyawc2000i install the .deb.07:49
djm62Mitja: normally apt secretes .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives when it downloads them, even if you uninstall.  so you might have some being downloaded and others downloaded07:49
intelikeyway cool.... now i wonder if i can work around this or will have to change the mount option  ???????07:49
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cdubyawyawc2000, open a shell and type which java07:50
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nick01I can't use that update tool- it doesn't fit on screen at 800x600 :(07:50
wyawc2000java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java  /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz07:51
intelikeyand of course like everyone else that installed hoary  my sound doesn't work.....  :)07:51
MitjaAre there any other console editors besides nano?07:51
cdubyak,07:51
nick01any way to make it install the updates ?07:51
djm62nick01: hold down alt and drag from the middle of the window until you can see the "maximise" button07:51
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cdubyawyawc2000, /usr/bin/java java_file_name.....will it run the file you're trying.....07:51
intelikeyhmmmm wonder how i can find out what this on board sound is ?07:51
wyawc2000ok..waited..07:52
mamorudjm62, it worked!07:52
cdubyawyawc2000, without the file extension....07:52
ecobuntunick01: you could use the terminal and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:52
nick01tks :)07:52
djm62nick01: holding down alt lets you drag windows from anywhere (I know the pain of low res in a hi res world ;) )07:52
gimmulfWhere do i get the "radeon" driver?07:52
nick01works07:52
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ecobuntunick01: you could also try to shrink the window07:52
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nick01maximizing worked07:52
tidiwhy low res?07:52
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nick01laptop07:53
intelikeywhat kind of tool is there to detect   on-board sound  ?07:53
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intelikey!ati07:53
ubotuwell, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:53
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soundrayintelikey, lspci ?07:53
fevoldj2Hi07:54
fevoldj2How do I configure webmin in Ubuntu?07:54
intelikeysoundray it doesn't show anything,  done checked there.07:54
wyawc2000Sorry, it also prompt: r  oot@edubuntu:/usr/bin# java hello07:54
wyawc2000         bash: java: command not found07:54
intelikeythat was my first guess.07:54
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soundrayintelikey, is it enabled in the BIOS?07:54
intelikeyyeah07:54
soundrayintelikey, and you didn't choose any weird options on install?.... just checking.07:55
intelikeywas working with linux before i installed this flavour07:55
intelikeysoundray :)07:55
Siph0nso if the makefile is trying to connect to a website to download a file and install it, where do u think that website is stored? the current website is down, but there is a mirror i know works....07:55
wyawc2000 bash: java: command not found07:55
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soundrayintelikey, you could boot Knoppix and see if it detects your sound chip.07:56
AndiMhi guys! could someone on (K)Ubuntu Breezy please do a dpkg --get-selections >/tmp/breezy_selections.log and mail me that file? (andi AT A HOST CALLED lisas.de). I'm doing a cross-grade from Debian Sarge and want to make sure to get everything right... Thanks!07:56
intelikeynosuid is not so weird         goodness!07:56
sigsome odd reason when I try to run firefox it never opens07:56
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drakeisduckAndiM: best place to ask that is #kubuntu07:56
sig /usr/bin/firefox: line 221: /home/joe/.mozilla/firefox/1s945ane.default/ver: Read-only file system07:56
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AndiMdrakeisduck: thanks :)07:56
drakeisducknp07:56
intelikeysoundray i don't have a knoppix cd tho and dialup 'slowdem' connection...07:56
sigCould not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/joe/.gnome2_private/': Read-only file syste07:57
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Siph0noh yea i tryed the grep command to try and find where the url is... but no luck....07:57
sandrohello07:57
wyawc2000cdubya  , how to solve it?? help me??07:57
soundrayintelikey, can you find out your motherboard type?07:57
djm62sig: did you change the mount options for the filesystem that /home is on?07:57
cdubyawyawc2000, that's weird.07:57
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intelikeyold.... ibm 300pl   what ever they had in them07:58
SeveasAndiM, ubuntu-desktop is what you need :)07:58
cdubyawyawc2000, can you do a which java for me again?07:58
SeveasAndiM, and for kubuntu: kubuntu-desktop07:58
sandrois anyone willing to answer a noob question ^^?07:58
intelikeylet me do some looking......07:58
soundrayintelikey, or google for the names of some of the devices that lspci does detect.07:58
AndiMSeveas: oh, didn't know that that meta package already contains everything essential...07:58
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cdubyawyawc2000, have you installed the .deb more than once by chance?07:59
wyawc2000/usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java          /usr/share/java             /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz07:59
intelikeyyou mean like the maxtor graphics ?07:59
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SeveasAndiM, the Ubuntu installer installs ubuntu-base, (k)ubuntu-desktop and a bootloader :)07:59
Seveas(ao you need ubuntu-base too)07:59
Seveas so*07:59
wyawc2000sudo dpkg -i sun*.deb , only once..07:59
soundrayintelikey, s/maxtor/matrox/ ?07:59
sandrodoes anyone know why my keyboard layout wont change... i want to use the finnish layout07:59
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AndiMSeveas: oooook, that helps a LOT. thanks!07:59
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soundrayintelikey, no, I mean the board devices.08:00
sandrodoes anyone know why my keyboard layout wont change... i want to use the finnish layout08:00
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intelikey:  that is.08:00
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sandro...08:01
ompaulsandro, system - administration - keyboard <-- is that any use to you?08:01
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sandroive tried that ompaul08:02
sandro...08:02
intelikeyi found it   ' Crystal SoundFusion Audio  by Cirrus Logic   CS4235 '08:02
cdubyawyawc2000, what are you using for your java files.....are you just writing them in a text editor, or using an IDE?08:02
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SeveasAndiM, Ubuntu also has really nice kernel metapackages: linux-{386,686,k7,ppc,amd64-generic,amd64-xeon}08:02
donzasandro: did you choose at the install finnish keyboard layout?08:02
Seveaspick your architecture :)08:02
intelikeynow what kind of module does that take ?08:02
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AndiMSeveas: no need, been self-compiling almost for decades on Debian ;) (my Debian install is 9 years old, BTW)08:03
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wyawc2000i using vi, only a simple "hello.java" file.08:03
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soundrayintelikey, possibly snd-cs428108:03
sandrodonza, i couldnt, or there was no difference >*08:03
mememeok, im stumped. how does one install mod_python in ubuntu? :$08:03
guillaumeHi all08:04
mememei've run sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-python2.4 ..08:04
wyawc2000it can through compile , but couldn't run..08:04
SeveasAndiM, I'd recommend to just install one to be on the safe side :) (Ubuntu has some patches you need)08:04
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[cro] smileyhi all08:04
guillaumebye all08:04
ompaulsandro, please stop with the extra noise, >> << and wait a minute or two, have you  installed the additional language settings also?08:04
mememebut I cannot figure out what to do next :)08:04
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ompaulsandro, system administration language selector,08:05
sandroompaul, i havent installed any other language settings08:05
cdubyawyawc2000, the only reason I ask is that I ended up downloading jdk 5.0 and just installing it in my home dir, then pointing Eclipse at it to use it as the installed JRE. Works like a champ. Just wondered if you were using anything like that....08:05
donzabtw.. how do you change the gnome calendar to start week from monday?08:05
AndiMSeveas: arrrrgh, gotta hate those non-upstream-only patches... (but I really hope Ubuntu is quite active in getting them merged)08:05
intelikeysoundray i tried snd-4236  and it installed but something is still not right.08:05
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ClayGhas anyone seen adryel around?08:05
SeveasAndiM, as active as possible08:05
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intelikeyalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory08:06
ClayGand has anyone used a thumb drive to run ubuntu?08:06
intelikeydo i need to also make a device node ?08:06
SeveasClayG, about a dozen of them...08:06
Seveasah, to run08:06
Seveasnvm08:06
intelikeyi thought modprobe would do that08:06
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ClayGDo you know what the speed is like?08:06
soundrayintelikey, where did you find that?08:06
sandroompaul, ill try if changing the language helps08:06
intelikeyfind what ?08:07
intelikeythe driver ?08:07
mamoruoh man, it's still stuck :((((08:07
ompaulsandro, I have no other really useful ideas08:07
soundrayintelikey, yes.08:07
ClayGSeveas, do you know anyone first hand that does? That I could ask a question about it to?08:07
intelikeymodprobe snd-<tabkey>08:07
intelikey:)08:07
mamoruwhat package do i need to install under ubuntu to get the GTK+-2.0 header files?08:07
gimmulfHo do i execute an .run ?08:07
SeveasClayG, sorry, no08:07
Seveasgimmulf, shoot it08:07
sandroompaul, thank you anyway ^^08:08
gimmulfSeveas:  shoot it?08:08
wyawc2000ok. i try . thank you ?  but i don't know how to add JRE to my Eclipse..08:08
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mememecould anyone please point me to some resource on how to install mod_python under ubuntu?08:08
wyawc2000I have been download Eclipse 3.108:08
Seveasyou wanted to execute it, right? Shooting is efective, you might try hanging or electrocuting08:08
gimmulfSeveas:  come on :)08:08
[cro] smileyi get this message in KDevelop when i try to execute simple program: "/bin/sh: konsole: command not found ***Exited with status: 127***08:08
Seveas;)08:08
djm62mamoru: libgtk2.0-dev08:08
[cro] smileywhat is the problem08:08
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soundrayintelikey, after module insertion check dmesg | tail for errors.08:08
wyawc2000I need to download which file?08:08
Seveasgimmulf, chmod +x bla.run; ./bla.run08:08
trappistmememe: libapache-mod-python2.4 for example08:08
Coburnplease tell me how to start at startup fbpanel and i desk in blackbox????08:08
Coburnhow to save my config08:09
gimmulfthanks Seveas08:09
ClayGIn a book i read, It said you could create panels that would handle only certain programs.  I took this to mean you could have one panel only for the firefox instances, while another panel will show the programs. Is this possible?08:09
Seveas[cro] smiley, sudo apt-get install konsole08:09
mamorudjm62, thx, gonna try08:09
Coburnplease08:09
ClayGIt did not tell how to though :(08:09
[cro] smileythanx Seveas08:09
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intelikeysoundray i don't see any errors....08:09
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mememetrappist, i installed it, but i dont know what to do after that. I thought i could just add a <Directory ..> or LoadModule but i only get error msgs when restarting apache08:09
mememedon't08:10
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janimoro08:10
equilibriusmind7hello08:10
cdubyawyawc2000, go here and click on Accept....then the self-extracting (not the rpm....the .bin file)......https://jsecom16.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=B2AAAEDB25FA3002737965BD2ECA609E08:10
mamorudjm62, OUCH! This package is already installed on my system!08:10
djm62mamoru: I thought it would be...08:10
soundrayintelikey, it's probably not enough to install the driver module.08:10
xoredcan someone help me with my Eclipse. He says there is no JVM there, but when he checks testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...not found, this is there and working..08:10
trappistmememe: I know how to install it (which is what you asked) but I don't know how to use it08:10
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mamorudjm62, man this is crazy08:10
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mememetrappist, ah.. ok, cool. thanks for the pointer anywho :)08:11
cdubyawyawc2000, that's if you want to use something Eclipse, where you can point it to which JRE you want to use, though....08:11
Coburnplease tell me how to start at startup fbpanel and i desk in blackbox????08:11
djm62mamoru: have you tried logging out and back in?08:11
Coburnplease08:11
SeveasCoburn: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.08:11
mamorudjm62, nope, should i?08:11
intelikeywell installing the module also installed about 12 other modules related to sound soundray08:11
donzahas anyone messed with gnome clock/calendar widget? i'd like to change calendar week to start from monday...08:11
xukunis there something like photoshop for linux?08:11
mamoruxukun, try gimp08:11
djm62mamoru: can't hurt...I forget where the environment things get set08:11
donzagimp is ok08:11
mememeheyo.. does anyone know how to get mod_python WORKING under ubuntu? :) (I have installed libapache-mod-python2.4)08:11
intelikeybut alsamixer errors out with 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory'08:12
Seveasmememe, a2enmod mod_python08:12
mamorudjm62, should i just Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or sudo reboot?08:12
xukunmamoru, thanks08:12
equilibriusmind7is there any way to get paltalk working on kubuntu? aside from wine08:12
[cro] smileyThanx Seveas it works now. What is the difference betwean Konsole and Terminal?08:12
wyawc2000i have a file : jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin...08:12
Seveasmememe, and then restart apache08:12
djm62mamoru: if I were you, System-> log out08:12
cdubyawyawc2000, if you want, you can just use synaptic and make sure that multiverse and universe are enabled, then go to the Development section and 1.4.2 jdk is there.....08:12
Seveas[cro] smiley, konsole is the kde version of the terminal08:12
djm62mamoru: then when gdm or whatever appears, log in08:12
trappistequilibriusmind7: paltalk is win32.  if you want to use it in linux you're going to need some kind of virtualization... like wine08:13
mamorudjm62, ok, gonna try08:13
[cro] smileyoh :)08:13
intelikeyeeeek    * Setting up ALSA...08:13
intelikeyamixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory08:13
equilibriusmind7thank's08:13
mememeSeveas, "This module does not exist!"08:13
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cdubyawyawc2000, what do you get when you do java --version08:13
yacoob:)08:13
intelikeyabout 10 lines of that error ^08:13
yacoobAny hints on using tvout with fglrx? So far, I've got the picture, but it's black&white, and a bit too small...08:13
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Seveasmememe, which package did you install?08:13
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mememeSeveas, "sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-python2.4"08:14
soundrayintelikey, do you have /dev/dsp ?08:14
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wyawc2000long ago, i download jdk1.5.bin08:14
Seveasah, apache108:14
cdubyawyawc2000, yes, but what does the system tell you when you do java --version?08:14
Seveasapache2 is much nicer, a2enmod is apache2 specific - for apache 1 you need to manually edit the config to load mod_python08:15
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intelikeyyep dsp   dsp1  dsp2  dsp308:15
soundrayintelikey, oops, that's a lot...08:15
londonboi2k3hi guys, are there any GUI apps for converting mp3 > ogg?08:15
mememeSeveas, ah.. oops! I do run apache2 .. :)08:15
wyawc2000it prompt : not find java08:15
mamorudjm62, same sheath, gtk/gtk.h - no such file or directory08:15
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Seveasmememe, then remove libapache-mod-python and install libapache2-mod-python08:16
ClayGIs there any app that can handle converting .avi to a dvd?08:16
AndyRhi all08:16
ClayGtovid can but I lose audio08:16
cdubyawyawc2000, kinda what I thought....;)08:16
wyawc2000i do: ./jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin08:16
soundrayintelikey, anyway, bypassing mixer stuff, do you want to try a 'cat file.wav >/dev/dsp' (replace file.wav with your favorite Nine Inch Nails song)08:16
intelikeybut cat urandom > dsp    no sound so something is bork08:16
soundrayintelikey, okay...08:16
mememeSeveas, you caught me in the act :) many, many thanks :) Is it not weird that it installs without complaining about an apache1 dependency? Or am I just not seeing something?08:17
mamorulooks like i'll have to download the tarball from gtk.org :(((08:17
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Seveasmememe, maybe you have apache installed too now :)08:17
mamorubut will it work under ubuntu?08:17
soundrayintelikey, would you post your lspci output on pastebin?08:17
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djm62mamoru: I'm not sure why it isn't working, but I don't think downloading the tarball is the solution08:17
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intelikeylet me #flood08:17
detrahello ... I have been running ubuntu for 2 days now, and I am getting pissed about that my sound only works at one thing at a time. How can I fix that ?08:17
djm62mamoru: can you compile a gtk hello world from the command line?08:17
Seveasmememe, at least apache-common (which might be provided by apache2 too, dunno)08:18
intelikeyit's short08:18
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intelikeysound /j #flood please  ?08:18
mamorudjm62, i don't have gtk/gtk.h08:18
mememeSeveas, haha, possibly :)08:18
mememeSeveas, there is apache2-common methinks08:18
trappistdetra: I hear that complaint about 20x/day in here.  I'm gonna hang out this time and pay attention to the answer.08:18
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mememeSeveas, and yes.. I did have apache-common installed now :)08:19
soundrayintelikey, okay.08:19
Dr_Willisdetra,  whats your sound card? and what programs you using to test this?08:19
trappistdetra: I know the answer is going to involve a sound daemon like artsd or esound, but that's about all I know.08:19
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mamorudjm62, speaking more pessimistically, i don't have /usr/include/gtk at all08:19
Smofcan anybody suggest a good download client, please?08:19
Seveasmamoru, libgtk2.0-dev is what you need08:19
djm62mamoru: one second08:20
detraDr_Willis, I got a soundblaster pci!08:20
SeveasSmof, wget08:20
Dr_WillisSmof,  for downloading what?08:20
mamoruoh, sht!08:20
mamorudjm62, solved08:20
mamorudjm62, the directory was called gtk-2.008:20
ClayGSmof, I like Kget+konqueror. It's the best I've found and is *almost* as good as Flashget08:20
trappistdetra: you shouldn't have that problem with a soundblaster (they do hardware mixing)08:20
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djm62mamoru: :) all is well08:20
intelikeysoundray like i said eariler it's not listed in that.08:20
trappistmamoru: libgtk1.2-dev08:20
Dr_Willisdetra,  if the programs are all set to use the sound-server programs - they shoulld mix fine.08:20
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intelikey and that was      /exec -o lspci   right here in the irc client.08:21
Dr_WillisI got a Soundblaster Audigy2zs :P08:21
Siph0nwhere is the zlib package at??? :)08:21
trappistmamoru: or libgtk2.0-dev08:21
mamorutrappist, Seveas, it's all ok.08:21
xukunI need same kind of image viewer programm which makes possible to just press next to see the next picture on the directory08:21
detraDr_Willis, is it because I run default sound drivers ?08:21
mamorutrappist, Seveas, it's all ok, I have solved the problem, thank you!08:21
Smofdr_willis, mp3s and mpegs08:21
soundrayintelikey, it gives me a better idea of your hardware, though.08:21
trappistmamoru: tell me!08:21
djm62xukun: f-spot?08:21
intelikeyk08:21
soundrayintelikey, it's apparently on the ISA bus (even if onboard)08:21
SeveasSiph0n, zlib1g08:21
trappistSiph0n: try zlib1g08:21
intelikeyyeah08:21
Siph0no k thanx :)08:21
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Dr_Willisxukun,  ive twiddled with several - and use 'irfanview' with wine normally :P i got to scan through several 100 pictures at a time and get rid of the trash.. space = keep, del=delate with irfanview. :P08:22
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soundrayintelikey, that means you may need to play around with module parameters.08:22
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Siph0nzliblg doesnt work ? :( am i missing a site in sources.list perhaps?08:22
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justmedoes anyone, anyone at all know how to open the GUI for Xorg?08:22
SeveasSiph0n, zlib1g is installed by default08:22
Dr_WillisSmof,  you rfering to  Peer2Peer network client? or a web-browser assistant type client?08:22
mememeSeveas, Ok, works like a charm now, thanks again!08:22
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Dr_Willisjustme,  what? ya need to give some more details. that made.. like no sence.08:23
djm62justme: what do you mean? xorg is a display server...it doesn't have GUI of its own08:23
mamorutrappist, i thought the header files are in '/usr/include/gtk', but they were in '/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/'08:23
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apietsemarang08:23
mamorutrappist, too trivial08:23
soundrayintelikey, just looking at http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Alsa-sound-5.html ...08:23
trappistheh08:23
hansderhow do i upgrade hoary hedgehog to breezy badger?08:23
Smofpeer2peer I think. I used to use Gnucleus on Windows so something like that would be good as I fear change08:23
Seveas!breezy08:23
Siph0noh :( cause im getting /usr/include/zlib.h must be installed on the buildsystem... hmmm maybe i try sometin first08:23
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:23
intelikeyhmmm bumber....     why didn't ub add 'sndconfig' to the repos08:23
Seveas^== hansder08:23
hansder!breezy08:24
Siph0nmy /usr/include/ directory dont have a zlib.h file tho....08:24
trappistintelikey: I'm curious about that myself08:24
justmeI need to get the stupid thing to change the screen resolution. I just installed Breezy and the crappy thing is stuck at 640x something so you can't even fit the entire menues on the screen. Why this is the defualt I have no idea.08:24
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hansderthx08:24
trappistjustme: sounds like you might be short a driver08:24
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justmeIt won't let me change it in the display manager of KDE so I need to have a direct GUI to Xorg itself or somehow get the system to give me the option to change the resolution.08:25
soundrayintelikey, your solution could be in section 5.3, last para.08:25
Mabus06how do you close an unresponsive program running in WINE?08:25
justmeIt worked fine until I upgraded to Breezy.08:25
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cdubyawyawc2000, so the system basically isn't seeing any installed jre/jdk/jvm08:25
justmeTo close a stuck program I usually open system monitor and kill it with that.08:25
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trappistmamoru: killall wineserver, killall wineloader08:25
djm62justme: ah-ha, you should have your old xorg.cong08:26
djm62justme: xorg.conf08:26
mamorutrappist, ?08:26
trappistoops08:26
trappistMabus06: killall wineserver, killall wineloader08:26
mamoru:)08:27
Mabus06where is system monitor justme ?08:27
justmeI had to reinstall and format. for some reason it couldn't contact the upgrade servers so I used the Breezy CD.08:27
Mabus06it's still there trappist08:27
wyawc2000i take hello.java in my uncompress :/home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin.   run:  javac hello.java ,it through. run: java hello, fail.08:27
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djm62justme: oh...did you have to do anything to get hoary working?08:27
trappisttab complete is dangerous in a channel with 650 people08:27
cdubyawyawc2000, if you get into a shell and type env, what does it say in the line that says PATH=08:27
Kyrallol08:27
trappistMabus06: ps aux | grep wine08:27
wyawc2000but run: ./java hello.   the result show..08:27
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soundrayIs there a utility to create NTFS file systems?08:28
justmeSorry, it's Sytem then Performance Monitor08:28
intelikeyhow hard is it to use alien and install an rpm ?08:28
Seveassoundray, yes, it's called windows08:28
justmeIt has a running proccess tab you can kill anything from.08:28
Seveasintelikey, alien -i filename.rpm08:28
Seveasdone.08:28
Mabus06didn't work trappist, but thanks anyway, someone in #winehq helped me08:28
Kyralsoundray: I think GParted/QtParted can08:28
cdubyawyawc2000, so you're having to tell the system to run the executable java08:28
soundraySeveas, I thought that classified as Malware.08:28
Seveassoundray :)08:28
trappistMabus06: what'd they say?08:28
intelikeyk08:28
fevoldj2How do I configure webmin in ubuntu?08:28
cdubyawyawc2000, have you added it to the path by chance?08:28
Seveasif you don't use windows, you don't need ntfs08:28
fevoldj2The only thing I can find is for the version you compile08:28
soundrayKyral, thanks, I'll check it out.08:28
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Mabus06killall -9 preloader08:28
mamorupeople, what is the command for searching the files?08:28
Seveasmamoru, slocate08:29
Kyralmamoru: locate08:29
Kyralor that08:29
Mabus06errr08:29
Kyralor Beagle :D08:29
Mabus06killall -9 wine-preloader08:29
Kyral!beagle08:29
ubotufrom memory, beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto08:29
mamoruwhich one?08:29
wyawc2000env:         PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin08:29
trappistsoundray: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/man/mkntfs.html08:29
Siph0nso if i have zliblg , why dont i have the zlib.h file? :)08:29
mamoruor both?08:29
justmeWhen I installed Hoary I had to install Xorg then someone gave me a command which let me configure it. Xserver or something that was done in the command prompt. I don't know what that was, hence my problem.08:29
trappistMabus06: ah08:29
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wyawc2000i don't now how to add ...08:29
SeveasSiph0n, because that's in zlib1g-dev08:29
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soundraytrappist, cool, thanks.08:29
BooZeeanybody knows freenet6 ?08:29
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AgrajagSiph0n: because that's in zlib1g-dev08:30
Kyralmamoru: Beagle is very powerful for searching your personal stuffs08:30
Agrajagoh wow, beaten08:30
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Kyralmamoru: but if you need to search the system files use slocate08:30
gimmulfHow do i change so i compille in a 32bit enviorment? (using amd64)08:30
djm62justme: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:30
Siph0nk sweet :)08:30
cdubyawyawc2000, I used something like export PATH=/home/chris/jdk-1.5.04/bin:$PATH.....but YMMV.....I've not messed with the $PATH var too much.....08:30
justmegimmulf, Carefully.08:30
djm62justme: with sudo before it08:30
mamoruKyral, thx, got it. 'locate' is a symlink to 'slocate' :)08:31
mamoruor smthng similar08:31
Kyrallol it is?08:31
gimmulfjustme:  what :)08:31
justmeYes! thats it!08:31
cdubyawyawc2000, biggest trick is to get the /bin dir in the PATH methinks....08:31
soundraytrappist, I'm impressed, it's packaged even.08:31
Kyralmamoru: it usually updates every night08:31
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justmeThanks!08:31
justmeQUIT08:31
Kyralbut to force it to update run sudo slocate -u /08:31
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trappistsoundray: yeah most distros package ntfsprogs08:31
mamoruKyral, unfortunately at night my PC is usually down08:31
Siph0nAgrajag and Seveas: thanx! :) works08:31
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afonitanyone with experince in using rsync?08:32
KyralWouldn't anacron do that then..08:32
mamoruKyral, so it is slocating -u now...08:32
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wyawc2000Yes. i find in /usr/bin , the java icon different  /home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin/  java icon..08:32
wyawc2000how to set my path..08:32
intelikeywhat do you do when alien does this  ' conflicting packages - not installing sndconfig'08:32
intelikey??08:32
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wyawc2000now , i use /home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin08:32
intelikeyErrors were encountered while processing:08:33
Kyralwyawc2000: if you put it in ~/bin then open up .bashrc you should see an option for adding in a ~/bin into the PATH08:33
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gimmulfHow do i change so i compille in a 32bit enviorment? (using amd64)  Need to get Wine running on my amd6408:33
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trappistgimmulf: I don't run amd64 but I'm pretty sure you're going to need a 32 bit chroot08:34
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gimmulftrappist:  whats that08:34
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intelikeywhere does alien put .deb files ?08:34
SeVeNhi all08:34
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Kyralthe working dir IIRC08:35
intelikeyhmmm nothing there...08:35
cdubyawyawc2000, then maybe try export PATH=/home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin:$PATH08:35
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SeVeNanyone knows if i have any trouble installing a 686 kernel image on my P4?08:35
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Seveasintelikey, alien -i puts no debfile anywhere, it installs immediately08:35
SeVeNi'm currently running a 386 kernel08:35
iamsthithahey what packages in synaptic are the X headers?08:35
SeveasSeveas, 686 is recommended for that cpu :)08:35
Seveasiamsthitha, xlibs-dev08:35
Kyrallol08:35
SeveasSeVeN*08:36
nekronsomeone can help me? i want to install the beep media player, but in apt i can't find..08:36
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Kyralnekron: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player08:36
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nekroni want to know a mirror where i can find the beep08:36
SeVeNSeveas, yes i thought so, but its easy to install or do i have to recompile?08:36
KyralIts in Universe08:36
KyralI think08:36
SeveasSeveas, sudo apt-get install linux-68608:36
Seveasreboot08:36
Seveasdone08:36
iamsthithathanks08:36
SeVeNSeveas, thank you that's all i needed to know :)08:36
wyawc2000I have add this in my shell..08:36
intelikeySeveas or in this case doesn't install it at all08:36
Seveasmwaaaaaaaaaah i keep talking to myself08:37
Kyralnekron: Do you have Universe enabled?08:37
SeVeNSeveas, and don't be afraid to talk to yourself :P08:37
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drakeisduckha ha ha08:37
holy_cowheh08:37
holy_cowjoker08:37
robotgeekubotu: tell nekron about repos08:37
cdubyawyawc2000, what does java --version report?08:37
iamsthitha:\08:37
nekronKyral, i don't know.. how i see this?08:37
afonitnekron, settings > repositiories > add the univers repositories, in synaptic08:37
Kyralubotu should have just told you08:37
ubotuKyral: Are you on ritalin?08:37
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Kyral.....shaddup08:37
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Seveas:)08:37
robotgeekKyral: lol08:37
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wyawc2000it also show :  bash: java: command not found08:37
soundrayintelikey, did you look at the URL I posted?08:38
KyralHow the heck does the bot know I am on Ritalin08:38
krogothhow do I make an init script run on startup?08:38
intelikeysorry no i missed it soundray08:38
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krogothI know about the symlinks, but I can't find the program ubuntu uses to manage them...08:38
cdubyawyawc2000, k08:38
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soundrayintelikey, it's great to see how much you value my input.08:38
Kyralkrogoth: no program "manages" symlinks08:38
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wyawc2000I have no method..08:38
soundrayintelikey, http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Alsa-sound-5.html, section 5.3, last paragraph.08:39
krogothreally?08:39
jimmouzHello, I have Pb of installation for the pilot of my chart wifi WG311v208:39
Kyralkrogoth: yah08:39
cdubyawyawc2000, sorry, I wish I could help you more.....my experience in that is limited to knowing how to setup Eclipse and/or NetBeans, then just pointing it where I need to......08:39
krogothI haven't had to do this manually since I've started using linux08:39
wyawc2000no way. it too patient..08:39
Kyralkrogoth: do what?08:39
krogothI don't know what runlevels to make it start in and what order it has to be in08:39
Kyralah08:39
Kyralboot sequence08:39
krogothis ubuntu really that far behind?08:39
KyralI thought you meant symlinks in general08:39
wyawc2000NetBeans, it also can run in ub?08:39
Kyralsudo apt-get install bum08:39
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djm62krogoth: update-rc.d08:40
krogothoh, right08:40
krogothhow could I miss that?08:40
djm62krogoth: just like debian08:40
intelikeysoundray i would have thought you would have been glad that i was trying to fix the thing rather than setting waiting on you like 'some' do.     but i was going to look....     it helps when i actually see the url...08:40
djm62krogoth: but runlevels, like debian are a little different08:40
krogothso... update-rc.d start dhcpd?08:40
Kyrallol I thought he meant symlinks themselves lol08:40
cdubyawyawc2000, yep, but Eclipse is way faster....and I like it's interface better personally....08:41
wyawc2000I only want have a environment to do java .08:41
djm62krogoth: what are you trying to achieve?08:41
soundrayintelikey, did you see it now?08:41
krogothI know how init finds things08:41
krogothbut it looked like I had to do all that myself08:41
krogothI want to run a dhcp server08:41
Kyralwyawc2000: You on 64 bit right?08:41
cdubyawyawc2000, then why not just use the Add Application method off the Applications menu?08:41
intelikeyyes08:41
robotgeekjimmouz: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ that might help you08:41
djm62krogoth: you want to run it, or you want to set it to run on boot?08:41
cdubyawyawc2000, go to Development...08:41
robotgeekubotu: tell jimmouz about wireless08:41
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cdubyawyawc2000, then check Eclipse....08:41
krogothI'll have to reboot, and I forget to run things...08:41
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Kyralkrogoth: do what i do08:42
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wyawc2000i have eclipse. how to configure it .. When i run Eclipse, it show : A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)08:42
wyawc2000must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine08:42
wyawc2000was found after searching the following locations:08:42
wyawc2000/home/wyawc2000/Eclipse/eclipse/jre/bin/java08:42
wyawc2000'java' in your current PATH08:42
Kyralmake a bash alias containing all the commands you need to start08:42
Kyralthen run it when you login lol08:42
Paradossodoes anyone use the soulseek network here?08:42
stimpieI have a problem with my clock, its running too fast.08:42
cdubyawyawc2000, install it, then when you launch Eclipse the first time and it finishes starting, go to Window > Preferences > Java > Installed JREs and add the one you installed....08:42
krogoththat sounds like a lot of work to run one package that comes with ubuntu...08:42
Kyralwhat package?08:43
KyralYou can file a bug to fix it08:43
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krogothif it says system startup links already exist, does that mean it should be running?08:43
wyawc2000my eclipse is needn't install. it run ...when i clicked : eclipse.. how i configure it..08:43
Kyralkrogoth: try BUM08:43
djm62krogoth: yes08:44
anavimhow do I add twm to my login screen's selections?  it doesn't autodetect it like the other WM's08:44
wyawc2000my computer is not 64 bit ..08:44
krogoththis should be in the services manager anyways...08:44
Kyralkrogoth: ....08:44
djm62krogoth: but it may not be configured how you want it08:44
krogoththat's funny, because I can't find the process08:44
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KyralTry BUM, jeez08:44
KyralServices Manager is a JOKE compared to BUM08:44
intelikeysoundray Seveas mamoru djm62 and anyone i missed.... thanks for all the input.   i'll be back around in the morning or some time.08:44
krogothit would be great if it actually listed all the services available08:44
Kyralwhat BUM?08:45
cdubyawyawc2000, Window > Preferences > Java > Installed JREs. Click on Add, then point it to the location of your java exe (home/wyawc2000/jdk-1.5.xx/bin)08:45
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KyralIt lists everything it can find in the bootscripts area, IIRC08:45
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timteIs it possible to get a Sony handycam (usb) to work in ubuntu?08:45
krogoththe services manager08:45
Kyralwebcam?08:45
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Kyralkrogoth08:45
Kyraldid you try installing bum?08:46
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timteKyral: video camera08:46
krogothit doesn't look like I need it08:46
Kyralkrogoth: you are trying to start something on boot right?08:46
mamoruoh, man, it took me all night long, but after creating 4 symlinks and changing compiler and linker settings in Anjuta, i have finally compiled the gtk hello world08:46
krogothit was already set up08:46
krogothit just wasnt starting08:46
wyawc2000Ok. I have find my mistake about my eclipse..08:46
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djm62krogoth: if you do ls /etc/rc2.d is dhcpd included?08:46
cdubyawyawc2000, you get it?08:46
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krogothyes, it's there08:47
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djm62krogoth: and if you do /etc/init.d/dhcpd start, does it give you any error messages?08:47
wyawc2000I find it show: miss JRE. So I copy JDK-JRE to Eclipse. And then it can start. and can work..08:47
wyawc2000Hehe, thank you...08:47
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cdubyawyawc2000, np, glad it works for you. :)08:48
krogothit did, but I think I fixed it08:48
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djm62krogoth: if it doesn't, then dhcpd is set up and running, and it will run on boot next time you boot08:48
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krogothit has a process now08:48
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djm62krogoth: then all is well08:49
SnakeChompI am trying to ./configure taglib because apt-get doesn't know what it is, but I get this error. onfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:49
SnakeChomp. What could be causing this?08:49
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Alvin`Hmm... Does anybody here know how to change the resolution to 1280x1024 via terminal, my monitor can take it, but it doesn't show up on the list.08:49
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krogothindeed08:49
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wyawc2000A, now 03:49. i must quit , and go to sleep. Tomorrow i have class.08:50
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wyawc2000Thank you everyone.. Bye...08:50
nicks68Is there anyway You can user jackd on 2 soundcard at the same time?08:50
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slashx1896Hey all08:50
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jfletcherhey, I've managed to fuck up my firefox -- was following a guide to install java on firefox + using ln command, + now it just trys to load + goes away...08:51
soundrayAlvin`, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'08:51
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trappistSnakeChomp: sudo apt-get install g++08:51
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duraFYI: The community sources for apt are working again.08:51
slashx1896is gnutella the same kinda thing as limewire?08:51
soundrayAlvin`, prepend sudo08:51
timteWill every damn device get the same name if I put them in the same usb port?08:51
jfletcherlimewire IS a gnuttela client08:52
SnakeChomptrappist, sigh, wish that would have been taken care of when i installed gcc08:52
duraslashx1896, Yeah kind of.08:52
trappisttimte: yes08:52
duraExcept LimeWire uses Java...08:52
timtetrappist: good08:52
jfletcher^08:52
Q_Continuumthe DVD archive contains the whole installation so one wouldn't have to connect to a archive, correct?08:52
slashx1896how do i connect to a server? the server it has when i start up gnutella doesnt work08:52
jfletcherhey, I've managed to fuck up my firefox -- was following a guide to install java on firefox + using ln command, + now it just trys to load + goes away...08:52
trappistSnakeChomp: well there's a c compiler and a c++ compiler - no reason when you install one to assume you want the other too08:52
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durajfletcher, Launch it from a terminal and see what erros show up.08:53
drakeisduckjfletcher: what's it tell you when you run it from the terminal?08:53
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jfletcherINTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager08:54
jfletcherSystem error?:: Success08:54
jfletcherdura:08:54
epikhlo08:54
jfletcherdrakeisduck:08:54
slashx1896whats a good server to connect to on gnutella?08:55
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drakeisduckjfletcher: reinstall firefox?08:55
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durajfletcher, ?08:56
drakeisduckjfletcher: installing java via a .deb package you shouldn't need to mess around with firefox to get the plugin to work08:56
jfletcherdrakeisduck: I have, same thing08:56
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drakeisduck!tell jfletcher about javadebs08:56
durajfletcher, Remove the symlink )ln command) that you made.08:56
jfletcherhow?08:56
durajfletcher, What was the command you typed that uses the ln command/08:57
jfletcherwhats the "reverse" ln08:57
drakeisduckjfletcher: use the rm command08:57
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jfletcherok..08:57
drakeisduckjfletcher: then install the java deb package from that link08:57
sewwhow do i get the sound in totem videoplayer to stop lagging behind??08:57
duraThe syntax for ln is ln -s(f) source destination08:57
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duraSo, rm destination08:57
epikhave any person who know how to be root on ubuntu live cd ?08:57
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drakeisduckepik: type sudo08:57
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drakeisduckepik: there is no default password08:57
jfletcherdura: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29//libjavaplugin_oji.so  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/08:57
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epikthanks08:58
jfletcherdrakeisduck: i'm hoary, does it matter?08:58
durajfletcher, So, rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/08:58
jfletcherdura: thx08:58
drakeisduckjfletcher: i don't think it should08:58
durasudo rm that is...08:58
jfletcherthx both you guys =] 08:58
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jfletcherI'll install that deb too08:58
iamsthithahey08:58
drakeisduckjfletcher: if it does...just remove it...you know how to install a deb package?08:58
Alvin`epik: sudo passwd08:58
Alvin`<enter any password>08:58
Alvin`<enter desired password>08:58
Alvin`<re-enter>08:58
Alvin`su08:58
Alvin`<enter password you entered before>08:58
iamsthithais there an experimental repository for apt?08:58
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jfletcherdrakeisduck: yeah08:59
robotgeekAlvin`: why are you enabling root?08:59
Kawerdoesn't ubuntu live cd autoconfig wireless networks ? or do i have to do it myself?08:59
drakeisduckok08:59
jfletchersudo dpkg -i package.deb08:59
drakeisduckyup08:59
jfletcher=] 08:59
robotgeekubotu: tell Kawer about wireless08:59
mindmedichas anyone had success running "skype" with "esddsp"?08:59
drakeisduckjfletcher: and if it doesn't work remove with synaptic or dpkg remove package08:59
duraewwww esd08:59
Kawernice08:59
Alvin`robotgeek: he asked how to be root, so I told him ;(08:59
Alvin`;)08:59
jfletcherokay08:59
robotgeekAlvin`: you use sudo, not root08:59
jfletcherdura: it won't let me rm, it's a dir, i tryed also rmdir + it says "not empty"09:00
robotgeekubotu: tell epik about sudo09:00
Alvin`robotgeek: I know, but I'm simply answering his question09:00
iamsthithaey!09:00
epikthks ALVIN09:00
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Alvin`*winner*09:00
paxmasteruse the -r09:00
Alvin`No problem.09:00
robotgeekepik: you probably don't need to enable root for anything09:00
Alvin`You never need to09:01
Alvin`Only to rescue your system09:01
Kawerrobotgeek: it there a if-you-aint-a-geek manual ? :09:01
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robotgeekKawer: what wireless card do you have?09:02
Kawernetgear09:02
Mabus06robotgeek, I came across a script that did commands that required root, and even if you put sudo at the beginning, the password timed out partway through09:02
robotgeekKawer: do you know which one?09:02
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robotgeekMabus06: you can do a sudo -i to get a root shell, and execute it there09:03
Kawerrobotgeek: nop .. but ill come back tomorrow then ill know it09:03
epikrobotgeek ?09:03
robotgeekepik: what command are you using to mount?09:03
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epikrobotgeek : i use mount only !!09:03
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epikor mkdir  , then mount /hda1 /home/ubuntu/x09:04
robotgeekepik: then sudo will work, read the link ubotu sent you09:04
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Mabus06Hey, if I catch someone connecting to my wireless router, what can I do to them?09:04
Kyralnothing09:04
w0rd54I have a laptop I'm installing ubuntu on, it is freezing on "loading ide-cdrom" can I disable the ide-cdrom modules at boot so it can continue after this step? thanks in advance09:04
djk_Mabus06: send them horseporn ;)09:04
KyralYou should have WEP encryptions09:04
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robotgeekepik: please don't /msg me09:05
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Mabus06yes but if they connect to my internet and are *on* my network, what can i do and how?09:05
robotgeekepik: just ask in here09:05
w0rd54any suggestions?09:05
gimmulfHow do i setup chroot to run 32bit applications on my  amd64? found an howto on the forum for Hoary but guess that wont work on my Breezy09:05
epikrobotgeek : what do you want i do whit ubotu ?09:06
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robotgeekepik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:06
epikok09:06
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Mabus06so what can I do to computers I dont want on my network other than encrypting?09:07
Mabus06when they're already connected09:07
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peterz___Hi,09:08
NoUse!chroot09:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457509:08
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epikthanks09:08
epikbye09:08
epik+09:08
peterz___I have a problem with my dhclient3 setup, it doesn't set the default route, anybody any idea what's misconfigured?09:08
robotgeekMabus06: use access control/mac address auth09:08
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Mabus06robotgeek, I mean what can I do *to* computers that try to steal my internet ;)09:09
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sewwhow do i get the sound in totem videoplayer to stop lagging behind??09:09
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anavimMabus06: turn off your router09:09
visik7hi09:09
visik7where can I find the patch of grub for quiet boot ?09:09
robotgeekMabus06: http://www.bash.org/?20247709:10
slashx1896Can someone help me with gnutella? or do i have to go to a dif room for that09:10
Mabus06anavim, that doesn't keep me on the internet, or teach them to stop trying09:10
drakeisduckvisik7: just edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and add the word 'quiet' on the kernel line09:10
anavimMabus06: that's the best you can do, legally... and when it comes up again, they'll be blocked out if you set up macid filtering09:10
visik7drakeisduck: the messages before the kernel boot09:10
visik7drakeisduck: like the line of grub that I ran09:10
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drakeisduckvisik7:  yes...were the kernel line is at the bottom of that file add the word quiet09:11
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drakeisduckwere/where09:11
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Sturekhi09:11
Mabus06robotgeek, that was funny but not very explaining09:11
YoniHi all..09:11
Mabus06:D09:11
YoniJust a q...09:11
YoniDo you know if Bluefish can load files from an FTP server?09:11
anavimMabus06: if you had more time on your hands, you could set up your router to forward all requests by unwanted visitors to only one site  :)09:11
robotgeekMabus06: well, all you can do is mac id filtering09:11
Yoni( I want to edit some PHP script that found on another pc @ my LAN.... )09:11
Mabus06robotgeek, I can't access their computer?09:12
SturekI have a pretty stupid problem.....my panels got screwed up....there's just one drawer on one of them, nothing else, and they don't respond at all....how can I set them back to default ?09:12
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TIRHello09:12
zAo^lo TIR09:12
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visik7drakeisduck:  I already have the quiet at the kernel line infact I got no mesg running the kernel but before the boot it prints some output of grub conf09:12
visik7and I want to remove it09:12
slashx1896what is a good gnutella server to connect to?09:12
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drakeisduckvisik7: how much output like a few lines?  cause you can't remove all of it09:13
TIRI'm trying to install kubuntu_amd64 and it seem that installs okey, but when it try to run it cannot09:13
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drakeisduckvisik7: do you have a splashscreen?09:13
TIRThe grub is trying load root as /dev/sda109:13
visik7drakeisduck: yes09:13
zookoSo I just installed openoffice.org2 (because someone sent me a MS Word file), and I can't seem to find any binary executable.09:13
anavimhow do I log in as a twm session from gdm?09:13
drakeisduckvisik7: then it's probably as quiet as you can get it09:13
robotgeekMabus06: make sure only your computer can connect?09:13
zookoIs this the brave new world where I have to write "java OpenOffice2" or something instead of executing a file to launch the app?09:13
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cdubyaoowriter...?09:14
visik7drakeisduck: but why grub prints out the conf of the kernel boot options09:14
m0rphenehow can i make my own keyboard layout_09:14
visik7it's useless09:14
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visik7before switching in fb09:14
trappistzooko: try oowriter209:14
drakeisduckviski7:  how many lines are you talking about like 5?09:15
gimmulfHow do i setup chroot to run 32bit applications on my  amd64? found an howto on the forum for Hoary but guess that wont work on my Breezy09:15
Sturekhelp.....please09:15
Mabus06robotgeek, okay I will explain... my other computers have trouble connecting to my router whenever I start doing encryption or anything similar. But unencrypted, this one pesky neighbor keeps using my net. So I'd rather just do something like what that topic said, lol09:15
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TIRgimmulf did you have problems installing?09:15
drakeisducksturek: what's your problem?09:15
TIRI cannot09:15
robotgeekMabus06: i gotta run now, maybe later?09:15
Sturekmy panels got screwed up....there's just one drawer on one of them, nothing else, and they don't respond at all....how can I set them back to default ?09:15
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anavimMabus06: mac id filter09:15
Mabus06robotgeek, you're the boss09:16
zookotrappist: thanks!09:16
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gimmulfTIR:  well i did: expecting much as it's pre-beta and it does look very firefox clone like but not too bad. However I went to a website with flash and got the customary "Click here to install flash" banner at the top of the window and out of boredom decided to try it (not expecting it to work) but it said "found Macromedia Flash plugin, click here to install", and after it installed the plugin all of a sudden the flash page (which didn'09:16
hedonickMabus06: you could start with making the router only accept know MAC numbers09:16
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Mabus06anavim, okay I heard you before, thanks, but as I said I was wanting to know how to put or retrieve files from their computer.09:16
gimmulfsorry sorry sorry09:16
BooZeewhat's "gcc" ?09:16
Alvin`gnu compiler collection09:16
anavimMabus06: I'm not going to tell you how to do illegal things, sorry09:16
TIR...09:16
drakeisduckBooZee:  man gcc09:16
EicenHello.. I have a problem installing ubuntu.  when the installer gets to "Installing apt" i gets to 25%, and freezes.. whats wrong ?09:17
gimmulfTIR:  i did: sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap and then sudo mkdir /chroot/  now the howto tells me to do:  sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf to Add this line: hoary /chroot09:17
gimmulfbut i use Breezy09:17
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duraWhy do I get 'command not found' when trying to use cd ?09:17
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duraMakes no sense...09:17
TIRYes I'm trying to install it but I cannot run after install09:17
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duraLike, sudo cd /home/foo: cd: command not found.09:18
TIRIn the grub line of root try to load at /dev/sda109:18
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zookoHm.  Except oowriter2 appears to do nothing on my machine -- nothing happens, nor does it exit.09:18
TIRI think it's not detecting my sata disk09:18
Mabus06there are virtually no internet laws in Canada, anavim :P09:19
nicks68Is there anyway You can user jackd on 2 soundcard at the same time?09:19
Mabus06identify theft isnt even illegal here09:19
anavimMabus06: hmmm... maybe I should move to canada  :D09:19
_jasonanavim, so your identity can get stolen? 0_o09:19
Mabus06if you're a hacker you wouldn't be the first09:19
EicenHello.. I have a problem installing ubuntu.  when the installer gets to "Installing apt" i gets to 25%, and freezes.. what could be wrong ?09:19
anavimMabus06: no, just a programmer09:19
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NoUsedura did you mess with your PATH variabl?09:20
zookoOh, I see.  I was waiting for the new gcj runtime or something.  Eventually a word processor did indeed pop up.09:20
Mabus06yes, "network security" guys are the same people as the hackers anyway. Just words.09:20
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kbrookshttp://kbrooks.ath.cx/blog/09:20
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zookoWhere "eventually" means 1m27s after I typed "oowriter2".  Sheesh.09:20
anavimMabus06: yeah, no one agrees on what hacker means... :P09:20
w0rd54y009:20
Paradossohi everybody09:20
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w0rd54anyone have an idea how to disable ide-cdrom support on bootup?09:20
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levanderI just had to remove the motherbard and replug everything back in.  Now the USB mouse/keyboard works in BIOS menu, but not once Linux is loaded.  Anybody got a suggestion for where to look to start fixing this?09:20
w0rd54during install09:20
ParadossoI need a powerful yet light on resources bittorrent client09:20
trappistzooko: yeah nobody ever accused ooorg of being fast or lightweight09:21
zookoOh good, it cached, or something, and on subsequent startups it works.09:21
w0rd54Paradosso: bittornado09:21
cdubyazooko, you on an older box? comes up just fine here....09:21
Paradossowhich do you advise?09:21
trappistParadosso: btdownloadcurses09:21
Paradossow0rd54, isn't it the one shipped with the default ubuntu install?09:21
cdubyacdubya, that's in a manner of timeliness for OO.org, I mean....09:21
cdubyaheh09:21
levanderParadosso: you've tried configuring bittorrent to make minimum use of the network?  Or, it's other resources you're concerned about?09:21
Paradossolevander, concerned on RAM mainly (have 256)09:21
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levanderParadosso: w0rd54 had a recommendation09:22
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trappist14:21 <trappist> Paradosso: btdownloadcurses09:22
zookocdubya: I'm on an Athlon64.  Only first launch took 87 seconds.  Subsequent launches were fine.09:22
w0rd54Paradosso: bittornado is a good client, can be obtained from www.bittornado.com09:22
Paradossois bittornado/btdownloadcurses capable of making torrents? I am concernerd with invite-only sites, ratios, ecc09:22
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Paradosso(I currently use btdownloadcurses via screen)09:23
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trappistzooko: I think there's a service for it similar to the one msoffice uses to keep chunks of the program in memory for faster startups09:23
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sdakotaanyone here knows how to magically make a p2 as fast as a p4 ?09:23
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anavimsdakota: switch to a lighter-weight window manager?  :D09:24
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misfit_toysdakota, $$$09:24
sewwhow do i install the right soundcard drivers???09:24
NoUsesdakota wave your wallet at it09:24
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sdakotaanavim: it's purely console ^^09:24
trappistParadosso: that's how real men do it09:24
pr3vi0uz does Ubuntu have  this binutils im trying too install nvidia drivers ?09:24
zmotHi, whenever I try to ./configure anything in the terminal, it always says at the end: "configure error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses" Or it says something with libraries etc! - Anyone experence that? Anyone that have a solution? :/09:24
NoUsezmot what are you trying to compile?09:24
sdakotamisfit_toy, NoUse: That's the problem - the computer hardware is too old for p4 and I don't have enough money for a brand new complete p409:24
djm62zmot: apt-cache search curses | grep dev09:25
Eicencan anybody help me a bit with installing ubuntu ?09:25
anavimsdakota: use your cli skills to get $50 for a chip/motherboard upgrade  ;)09:25
trappistzmot: sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev09:25
zmotthx, trying09:25
misfit_toysdakota, sometimes more RAM will make a huge difference, how much do you have now?09:25
sdakotaanavim: Brilliant!09:25
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sdakotaanavim: Just... Who needs my cli skills and wants to pay me $50 for that o.O09:25
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ParadossoI still am not sure whether there is a difference between bittornado and btdownloadcurses09:26
sdakotamisfit_toy: 128 MB, but about 1 GB of swap...09:26
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mikuldose anyone know anything about input/output error?09:26
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NoUsesdakota swap doesn't speed anything up09:26
djm62sdakota: more RAM will make you much more comfy09:26
misfit_toysdakota, if you double that to 256 or more, you might be a lot happier ;)09:26
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sdakotadjm62, misfit_toy, how much do you guess 128 mb ram is in euros?09:27
misfit_toysdakota, I have no clue09:27
mister_roboto"double" that to "256 or MORE"   I like that09:27
antoni0hi all09:27
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djm62sdakota: ummm, 10-to-2009:27
sdakotamister_roboto, lol!09:27
djm62sdakota: maybe not so much09:27
mister_roboto:)09:27
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Artemis3-_-09:27
antoni0im using ubuntu, i wanna know if exists another IRC client like Xchat, BitchX :), somebody knows?09:27
zmottrappist: "Errors were encountered while processing: xfingerd"09:28
misfit_toyantoni0, irssi09:28
kbrooksantoni0, a lot09:28
NoUseantoni0 you can search synaptic for that09:28
sdakotadjm62, that's not so expensive... will it actually make things like compiling, and running programs like apache, etc, faster?09:28
antoni0where script is the best for unix systems?09:28
misfit_toysdakota, yes09:28
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sdakotagreat o.O09:28
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Sturekdoes nobody know, how to reset the GNOME panels ?09:28
misfit_toyantoni0, http://tldp.org09:28
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RancidLMhey all09:29
bojarenHi everyone.09:29
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antoni0there's some IRC Client, whit oper functions?09:29
misfit_toySturek, killall nautilus09:29
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sdakotaand untill what much MB will that go faster all the time? can I upgrade it to 1 GB to make it rlly fast or do I actually need CPU updates for that?09:29
djm62sdakota: yep, compiling programs is very ram intensive09:29
zmottrappist: got a solution? :(09:29
dampjamIs there good support for the tablet pen/monitor being sold for "tablet pcs"09:29
misfit_toysdakota, the more RAM you have the way better you will be09:29
soundraysdakota, 128MB modules are getting rare. You should be able to get a 256MB one for around 25 Euros.09:29
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djm62sdakota: eventually you must reach a limit, but it's pretty high09:29
sdakotasoundray: then 1 GB is getting quite expensive though. 100 euros is a bit much...09:29
NoUsezmot what are you trying to compile?09:30
RancidLMi made a script that mounts and unmounts drives.. but its needs my sudo password.. is there a way i can make a link for this script but pops up the GUI password prompt?09:30
sdakotaI mean, for a server, ...09:30
djm62sdakota: I have 512M on here, and it's OK09:30
Stureknope....I even restarted.....I mean the panels....like Taskbar and stuff....09:30
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dampjamRancidLM: man sudo... just make it not require a password09:30
djm62RancidLM: I think the prompt is gksudo09:30
soundraysdakota, the relationship isn't linear for per-module prices.09:30
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RancidLMdjm62, dampjam   thanks :)09:30
alpheehi09:31
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bojaren  ?09:31
sdakotaso if I just pay around 10,- I can make the server have around double speed?09:31
sdakotabojaren: that looks odd09:31
bojarenoops..09:31
bojarenIt's Korean...I'm looking for other Korean who is using Ubuntu. :)09:32
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djm62!korean09:32
ubotudjm62: I don't know, could you explain it?09:32
NoUsesdakota double ram doesn't make it double speed, it will be faster with more ram though09:32
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sdakotaok09:32
butcherbirdcoughs09:32
sdakotaThanks !09:33
sdakotaI gtg now09:33
sdakotaBye =)09:33
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pr3vi0uz how would  i go by installing this file binutils_2.15-6_i386.deb?09:34
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dapperisdrakepr3vi0usz: sudo dpkg -i *.deb09:34
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Seveaspr3vi0uz, ewwww NO09:35
pr3vi0uz thank you sir dapperisdrake09:35
NoUsepr3vi0uz is there a reason you aren't using apt/synaptic?09:35
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SeveasDON'T09:35
dapperisdrakenp09:35
Seveasthrow it out09:35
pr3vi0uz:P09:35
GoClickCan I use the livecd to erase a hard drive? (zero wipe) ?09:35
SnakeChompI am trying to mount an NTFS partition as read only, but when I try to cd into it, i get "permission denied". I'm using sudo mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sda2 /windows09:35
SnakeChomp. What am I doing wrong?09:35
SeveasNEVER manually install binutils/glibc or other core parts09:35
pr3vi0uz im just looking for this  binutils09:35
gimmulfAnyone who like to help/or know where to learn setting up a nice 32bit enviroment for 32 bit aplications on my Breezy using Amd64 cpu?09:35
Seveaspr3vi0uz, DO NOT install that deb09:35
NoUsepr3vi0uz sudo apt-get install binutils09:35
gimmulfAnyone who like to help/or know where to learn setting up a nice 32bit enviroment for 32 bit aplications on my Ubuntu Breezy using Amd64 cpu?09:35
duraI wish there was a LimeWire .deb...09:35
Seveasbinutils is installed by default at the correct version for ubuntu09:35
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ubuntuDamn how can I join the #debian chan ?09:36
pr3vi0uz not in mine  im trying too install a nvdia driver09:36
Seveasubotu, /join #debian09:36
ubotuSeveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:36
maddashcan someone tell me the command that undos "openbox --replace"?09:36
Seveasubuntu*09:36
ubuntuIt keeps forwarding me right here09:36
dapperisdrakesorry i didn't recognize the file he was trying to install09:36
dduckoubotu tell dura about limewire09:36
jendazmot! Why leave so fast? :)09:36
dapperisdrakebecause yo uname is ubuntu09:36
Seveasubuntu, then change your nickname...09:36
dapperisdrakeyou need to change your nick09:36
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maddashin other words, get rid of openbox and restore metacity?09:36
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glouStill can't :'(09:37
Seveasyou have ubuntu as ident09:37
Seveasso disconnect, change your ident and retry09:37
glouOk :D09:37
glouHave a nice day09:37
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LjLSeveas: uh... nice guys the #debian guys09:37
rdancerhow do i enque multiple mp3 files for playback (in nautillus)?09:37
bluefoxicyman09:37
duraI tried running LimeWire from the 'other' package. First it tells me it found the java exe, then it tells me it's the wrong version of java installed, THEN it tells me it can't fine the java exe.09:38
SeveasLjL :)09:38
duraVia ./runLime.sh09:38
bluefoxicySeveas:  shipit sends via ups?09:38
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Seveasbluefoxicy, possibly09:38
dduckodura, did you install Sun Java?09:38
dduckoubotu tell dura about java09:38
duradducko, Yes09:38
duraI don't want the bot to tell me about jack.09:38
bluefoxicySeveas:  so the UPS tractor-trailor up the street, now separate tractor and trailor and a Fedex truck, would slow my delivery?09:38
duraI only asked why there isn't a .deb in a repository some where.09:38
duraGTK-Gnutella is getting more worthless by the day in case no one has noticed.09:39
Seveasbluefoxicy, :)09:39
NoUsedura you really should read what the bot sends you09:39
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Seveasmaybe it IS your delivery ;)09:39
NoUsedura he links to a java deb09:39
duraI don't need the java deb... I asked about a LimeWire .deb.09:39
dura:|09:39
bluefoxicySeveas:  Fedex-UPS Collisions seem to be common these days; perhaps somebody is hinting they want a merger09:40
dduckodura Limewire is a cinch to install if you follow that, as quick as a deb almost.09:40
Seveasbluefoxicy :)09:40
NoUsedura you're problem isn' limewire, you don't have java set up properly09:40
duraLimeWire does't get installed.09:40
bluefoxicydducko:  why would you want limewire?  gtk-gnutella connects to the same network09:40
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duraIt get's unzipped and ran with a script.09:40
Seveasdura, -ENOSUCHTHING09:40
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LjLSeveas: ENOENT09:40
duraNoUse, Java works fine with everyhting else I have installed.09:40
bluefoxicydura:  try gtk-gnutella, it and limewire and bearshare and shareza and morpheus all use the same network and get the same results09:40
NoUsedura is the java executable in your PATH?09:41
duraYes09:41
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SeveasLjL, I try to keep it a bit readable ;)09:41
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Seveasand it's -ENOENT :)09:41
NoUsedura then you are doing something wrong09:41
duraBefore Ubuntu, I used Gentoo (since .99alpha) for 3-4 years.09:41
LjLSeveas: ok, ok :)09:41
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bluefoxicydura:  before ubuntu, I used hardened gentoo.09:42
dduckobluefoxicy, Mostly because I hate the UI.09:42
duraI've ran into other Ubuntu-specific issues too.09:42
duraMostly small stuff...09:42
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durabluefoxicy, Why did you switch?09:42
bluefoxicydura:  I wanted to get closer to ubuntu and try to manipulate them into integrating hardening features09:43
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djk_will ubuntu run on a p2-400 ?09:43
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durabluefoxicy, Ever looked into bastille-linux?09:43
keYes09:43
keIt will09:43
jcoledjk_: memory?09:43
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duradjk_, Yep...09:44
bluefoxicydura:  most of the stuff breaks near nothing; there's workarounds for the rest.  I had like 40 packages (10 of which were ibm-java, sun-java, blackdown-java, etc) that I had to chpax around :)09:44
djk_jcole: 320mb..09:44
bluefoxicydura:  bastille is nothing.09:44
jcoledjk_: you're fine09:44
skullb0xwill ubuntu intsall a .deb file?09:44
durabluefoxicy, It's not nothing no... it's handy for some.09:44
dduckoskullb0x, yes09:44
glouphIs there any way to know what are the different partitions using ubuntu live cd ?09:44
duraskullb0x, man dpkg09:44
NoUseskullb0x thats what apt-get and synaptic uses09:44
bluefoxicydura:  I'm talking about shit that would take, say, the SSH off-by-one error that allows injection of root shell into ssh, and have SSH crash upon exploit rather than give a root shell, even though we don't know yet that that vulnerability exists09:44
duraglouph, mount? df -Th ?09:44
jcoleskullb0x: apt-get remove {package name}09:45
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durabluefoxicy, Yeah... lol09:45
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jcoleskullb0x: apt-get remove --purge {package name}09:45
jcole^^^ if you want to also remove the config files09:45
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glouphOk dura thank you09:45
bluefoxicydura:  stack smash protection, data/code separation (code is Read/executed, not changed; data is read/written, not run as code), address space layout randomization, etc.09:45
skullb0xits just that i installed gtk-gnutella from apt-get and it says its an old version, and apt-get update didn't update my sources for gtk-gnutella09:45
pr3vi0uzi have a question09:45
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NoUsepr3vi0uz probably best to ask it09:46
durabluefoxicy, I was just reading something on stack smashing today.09:46
bluefoxicydura:  phrack 46.14 "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit"?09:46
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pr3vi0uz hehe  NoUse  i was getting too the question sir :) im trying too install this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run09:47
durabluefoxicy, I think that's was it yeah lol09:47
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bluefoxicydura:  :)09:47
duraYep it was09:47
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NoUsepr3vi0uz you know that there are nvidia drivers in synaptic right?09:47
pr3vi0uzoh nope i didnt  :P09:47
NoUse!tell pr3vi0uz about nvidia09:47
duraAnyway... bbiab... I should eat something today.09:47
NoUsepr3vi0uz try the wiki intructions09:48
bluefoxicydura:  the protection for that btw is to have the compiler insert a canary before the return/stack frame pointer in the stack, and check it before return, which causes very small overhead but otherwise doesn't interfere with non-buggy applications09:48
bluefoxicyit crashes the program if you write past the end of the highest-order buffer in a stack frame though ;)09:48
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Seveasbluefoxicy, canarys in my pc?09:50
Seveasoh my09:50
SeveasI might have to feed them :)09:50
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pr3vi0uzthanks NoUse :)09:51
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nemesisdoes anyone know of any good vpn client ?utility that I can pull off of ubuntus repository09:51
DShepherdhey09:51
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jonohi all09:52
jonowhat is the ubuntu equivilent of /etc/modprobe.conf ?09:52
trappistnemesis: openvpn09:52
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bluefoxicySeveas:  lol.09:52
nemesisis it gui based?09:52
bluefoxicySeveas:  check gcc 4.109:52
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trappistnemesis: gui *based*?  I don't think there is such a thing.09:52
trappistnemesis: most guis are just front-ends for console apps09:53
aris[glande] hey, is there a way I can find out the names of every package installed into the computer that does *not* belong to the package list actually into /etc/apt/source.list ?09:53
jono#anyone?09:53
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nemesisokay well let me give it a try09:53
nemesisthanks09:53
aris[glande] jono, /etc/modules ?09:53
SnakeChompis there some package I need to decode mp3 streams that isnt installed by default?09:53
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NoUse!tell SnakeChomp about mp309:53
Seveasaris[glande] , check the 'obsolete or locally created' section in aptitude09:54
soundrayjono, /etc/modutils/ (directory)09:54
trappistjono: maybe you want /etc/modprobe.d/*09:54
Seveas(or maybe even synaptic)09:54
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jonohmm09:54
aris[glande] Seveas, aptitude is cmd line util ?09:54
jonoI am reading FC4 instructions09:54
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Seveasaris[glande] , yeah09:54
aris[glande] i don't have X installed. I installed the ubuntu on top of a debian install09:54
Seveasjono, Ubuntu isn't FedoraCrap409:54
aris[glande] and well, it worked.09:54
jonoSeveas, I know, but its still Linux09:54
Seveasinstructions for FC4 may (will) not work09:55
jonoI need to specify module aliases09:55
gimmulfWhich java package should i get for my amd64 Breezy system?09:55
aris[glande] i just had issues when upgrading the pcmcia-cs when under 2.409:55
jonoSeveas, no, they will work, but the locations will be different09:55
homerhaha I'm using the Internet!!09:55
EsersToday received Ubuntu cds09:55
Mabus06okay jono, you put that guru Seveas in his place ;)09:55
EsersHas anyone installed ubuntu as the second os with xp?09:55
trappistjono: /etc/modutils/*09:55
Gdp_usrlami did esers09:55
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Mabus06!dualboot09:56
SnakeChompE: Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate =(09:56
ubotudualboot is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo09:56
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Seveasjono, ergo: they won't work...09:56
aris[glande] Esers, i did too09:56
Mabus06esers ^09:56
trappistaris[glande] : if you know how to find out where a package came from we can prolly do a bash one-liner09:56
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EsersOk09:56
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EsersThe ubuntu partition tool is not that great (i don't like it!)09:57
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aris[glande] trappist, in fact, I think there are still some packages left from the previous debian system09:57
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EsersHow about making ext3 and swap partitions in windows?09:57
Gdp_usrlammost of the people here probably did it Esers09:57
gimmulfWhich java package should i get for my amd64 Breezy system? is the jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin good or should i get that blackhawk something?09:57
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NoUseSnakeChomp did you enable the repos you need?09:57
aris[glande] gimmulf, take the jre one09:57
Gdp_usrlamit usefull enough09:57
gimmulfoki aris[glande] 09:57
Mabus06how do I find out info about people who are connected to my unsecured wireless network?09:57
poningruEsers: there will be a better partitioning tool in express09:57
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SnakeChompNoUse, probably not? lol09:58
gimmulfaris[glande] :  it isnt in the respitorys right?09:58
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aris[glande] don't know09:58
NoUseSnakeChomp it's in the link ubotu sent you09:58
EsersU think that manual partition etc?09:58
EsersBecause i was there and i didn't understand a .... :( ( YEAH STUPID YWAH WHATEVER)09:58
EsersTb yeah09:58
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EsersBecause i don't want to lose data09:59
Esers:(09:59
Mabus06how do I find out info about people who are connected to my unsecured wireless network?09:59
aris[glande] find people with laptops in your street09:59
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aris[glande] and shot them with a good gun before they can defend themselves09:59
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EsersMaybe someone knows a good manual for installing ubuntu as second os10:00
Esers?10:00
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Mabus06dude10:00
Mabus06I JUST10:00
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Mabus06linked you to one10:00
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Mabus06!dualboot10:01
ubotufrom memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo10:01
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anav1mMabus06, tcpdump10:02
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EsersOk another question10:03
Mabus06errr, and how do I refine that data anavlm?10:03
EsersIf i have a 40 gb hdd10:03
EsersAnd i resize it to 30 gb10:03
EsersWon't i lose something?10:03
jrattner1How can i SYNC a windows mobile device in linux?10:03
thenukeEsers: no if you have 30gb or less data in it?10:03
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EsersYeah10:04
EsersHmmz...10:04
EsersRigh10:04
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Esers:(10:04
anav1mMabus06, grep for just their IP address10:04
EsersMandriva install for all! ;)10:04
EsersOk off i go then10:04
Impotencehey, can someoen give me a hand mounting a ntfs drive?10:04
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Seveas!ntfs10:05
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Seveas!+\ntfs10:05
ubotuNot a clue, Seveas10:05
Seveas!+ntfs10:05
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.10:05
Impotenceanyone? NTFS in ubuntu10:05
Impotenceim only looking for read10:05
nekronsomeone uses amaroK?10:05
jrattner1Is there any news group that I can ask about syncing my pda smart phone and linux10:05
Impotenceas i know the write is unstable10:05
soundrayImpotence, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /mnt/mountpoint10:06
cdubyaImpotence, read the wiki....worked like a charm here......10:06
nekroni can't play files.. i don't know what engine i must use..10:06
Impotencelol, good idear10:06
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U-tonhello10:06
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ompaulImpotence, can you look at the text that ubotu put on the screen it may be of some advantage to you10:06
Impotencebtw, im running off a live cd10:06
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giova90please speack italian10:06
ompaul!it10:07
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:07
ompaulgiova90,    >>> /join #ubuntu-it <<10:07
U-tonare there any experts regarding sound problems online?10:07
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Impotenceas in sound not working?10:08
butcherbirdImpotence, one way: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/something10:08
Impotencecos i have the same10:08
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sobersabrehello. which kernel image best fits to work on Pentium4 D ?10:08
Mabus06lol Impotence10:08
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Mabus06I doubt your two problems are the "same"10:08
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ompaulU-ton, one persons expert is anothers basic, state the problem and then see what is said, btw please name your sound card10:08
Mabus06just because you both have the same generic symptom of "my sound isnt working"10:08
ardchoilleThis is the first distro that I have seen gdesklets installed and work correct the first time10:08
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Shadowflarehey10:08
ompaulMabus06, is there any chance you could be right :-)10:09
Impotenceerr..... the fact that ubuntu dont recognise my sound card/s [i have 2, it cant find ther] 10:09
soundraysobersabre, one that ends in -686-smp10:09
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ompaulImpotence, turn one off in the bios and then try again10:09
U-toni want tu use my (cheap) hauppauge tv card with bt87x chipset10:09
sobersabreisn't it an emt64 processor ?10:09
Shadowflarecan someone help me with the live cd?10:09
U-tonlsmod lists the drivers but no sound with zapping10:09
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Shadowflareit keeps stopping at language configuartion10:10
sobersabresoundray. isn't p4 D a 64-bit CPU ?10:10
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nightynahello10:10
P8ntKidHow do i kill conky?10:10
Mabus06a gnu10:10
Mabus06gun10:10
ompaulkillall programname as invoked10:10
jfletcherkillall -910:10
nightynaanyone using an IBM w/ embedded security10:10
Impotenceok...... im gona get lol'ed @ for this, ive lost the console..... where is it :)10:11
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Mabus06applications>accessories>terminal   impotence10:11
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smoImpotence, I think it moved from System Tools to Accessories10:11
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nightynahello10:11
ompaulImpotence, applications accessories terminal - or ctrl alt F1-610:11
mrimberthi OneSeventeen10:11
sobersabrenightyna what are you talking about ?10:11
nightynaim trying to setup the subsystem chip10:11
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Mabus06ompaul, ah, don't torture him with teletypes yet! :D10:12
HeleneHello10:12
Mabus06ompaul, he won't know how to come back!10:12
sobersabrewhat is ibm w/ embedded security ?!10:12
OneSeventeenhi, any chance someone knows if there is an ubuntu package that enables the oracle functions in PHP?10:12
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HeleneI'd like to know how to record an audio stream (radio broadcast) , live or time-shifted10:12
nightynaIBM Laptop with the embedded security subsystem chip10:12
ompaulMabus06, okay so just in case10:12
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sobersabrenightyna finger reader ? or the "disk lock" ?10:13
nightynaI have a T42 and cannot find the right package to enable the chi[10:13
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ompaulImpotence, so you can do ctrl+alt+f7 to return from the land of ctrl alt10:13
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nightynanah10:13
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SilentOutcastDoes ne one know why you have to order at least 5 ubuntu cds10:13
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smoHelene, it's far from point'n'click, but mplayer has a -dumpstream function that can be very handy10:13
DuDE27<nightyna> anyone using an IBM w/ embedded security10:13
Mabus06SilentOutcast, to spread them I would guess10:13
nightynathis is a chip that holds encrypted passwords for webforms10:13
DuDE27http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki10:13
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ompaulSilencer, cos the idea is that you spread the love10:13
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SilentOutcastk10:14
nightynadude should i look at that site10:14
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Helenesmo: tx. I just found out about streamtuner - will try it10:14
ompaulSilencer, sorry that was for someone else10:14
DuDE27yeah you should10:14
theD3viLHow can i do partitions so i can install winxp and ubuntu together? ..10:14
sobersabrenightyna I don't know what it does. is it int the linux HCL ?!10:14
DuDE27otherwhise i wouldn't paste it ;)10:14
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nightynaYes I believe so10:14
nightynadoes that mean it's installed by default10:14
shad0w1eis there any way to do a chmod -R where only the directories get an X but not the files?10:14
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nightynaThanks Dude 2710:14
Seveasshad0w1e, chmod +X instead of +x10:15
sobersabre"believe" is not the thing people use with computer... I don't believe. i either know or don't know10:15
nightynaI'll look at that10:15
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shad0w1eSeveas, thanks10:15
ompaultheD3viL, if you have to do that do MS first and ubuntu second it is just a little saner and if you want a good ubuntu system give yourself at least 6G but more is better10:15
bluefoxicySeveas:  my /var/lib/apt/lists keeps getting periodically emptied by something.10:15
BadMackTuckanyone know how well the new kernel works with centrino hardware? i heard that 2.6 included drivers for it.10:15
bluefoxicySeveas:  Ideas?10:15
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bluefoxicySeveas:  the machine often has no network connection.10:15
Seveasbluefoxicy, apt bug10:16
bluefoxicySeveas:  mm.  From not being plugged in?10:16
Seveasupdate-manager will kill your locally cached lists if it tries to update without net connection10:16
verden01can anyone tell me what packages i can install with the "backports repository"?10:16
Seveas(apt-get update too)10:16
bluefoxicySeveas:  ah.  VERY annoying.10:16
Seveasbluefoxicy, indeed10:16
theD3viLomaru, nono, i wanna just install it both, dont matther which one first, just tell me with which program do partition?10:16
bluefoxicySeveas: Kill it.10:16
Seveasfixed in dapper though :)10:16
bluefoxicy:)10:16
bluefoxicyyay!10:16
bluefoxicySeveas:  is dapper a hellhole right now?10:16
Seveasworse10:17
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DShepherdlol10:17
bluefoxicyor did you guys actually manage to get the developing-but-not-breaking thing going?10:17
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Alex`ack10:17
smoSeveas, that's incredibly handy (chmod +X), thanks; I've been using find -type d for *years*10:17
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shad0w1eSeveas, but I only want user and group to have X, not others10:17
TheBeastcan someone please tell me how to list all installed packages along with their versions?10:17
Alex`The manpage for sources.list repeatedly says "uri" instead of "url" (eye instead of ell). :|10:17
ompaulbluefoxicy, , if it is not it will be - it is in early stages can you take that to #ubuntu-offtopic :) after all this is support for the released badger10:17
Seveasbluefoxicy, Ubuntu development: for 2 months the developers go crazy and break everything while implementing new funky things, then 2 monts of stabilizing and 2 months of polish10:18
bluefoxicySeveas:  I'm majorly against the idea that development should equate to anally raping a stable platform with a bunch of broken shit, then taking the hiroshimaesque result and trying to fit the pieces back together.10:18
soundrayTheBeast, dpkg -l10:18
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Seveasshad0w1e, chmod -R ug+X10:18
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Seveasor since it's messed up already: chmod -R o-X10:18
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djm62My mp3 player (sigmatel MSCN Music Player) is no longer mounted automatically as "usb mass storage" in breezy: any tips for fixing/reporting?10:18
shad0w1eSeveas, thanks!10:18
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shad0w1eSeveas, actually its not,10:18
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shad0w1ewow, worked like a charm!10:19
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bluefoxicySeveas:  ok, is there a way for me to KEEP a dhcp lease?!10:19
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bluefoxicySeveas:  my laptop likes to get a lease for 192.168.1.106, then 10 minutes later change its ip to .107, then the next day to 108. . . . . it's on 116 now.10:20
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bloody_maryhi there everyone!10:20
sobersabrebluefoxicy do you own DHCP server ?10:20
bluefoxicysobersabre:  linksys router.10:21
gimmulf_how do i enable java in firefox? i downloaded and installed jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin10:21
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bluefoxicysobersabre:  I thought dhcp allowed you to take a lease you have and request an extension on it10:21
pepsiyou have to tell it where the java plugin is10:21
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bloody_maryhelp: mounting an additional ntfs drive?10:21
soundraygimmulf_, Sun won't support firefox plugins in 64-bit.10:21
sobersabrebluefoxicy no. after 1/2 lease time client attempts to reget a new lease.10:21
bluefoxicysobersabre:  "Hi, I'm 192.168.1.107.  Could you let me not become 192.168.1.108?"10:21
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gimmulf_soundray: what should i get then?10:22
bluefoxicysobersabre:  after half lease time the client gets a new lease with an incrimented IP.10:22
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sobersabrebluefoxicy no10:22
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SnakeChompMy master mixer doesn't actually effect playback of BMPx which so far is the only media progrma i've goten anything to play in. Why isn't the system mixer level effecting its output?10:22
soundraygimmulf_, I'd like to solve that myself. Currently, I'm getting by without Java plugins.10:22
bluefoxicysobersabre:  I was trying to run apt-get over ssh and it froze, I look and my IP went from 192.168.1.115 to 192.168.1.11610:22
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sobersabrethe client is supposed to say "hi, i am alive, please increase my lease.10:22
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sobersabre"10:22
SnakeChompmuting it doesnt make a difference either10:22
bluefoxicysobersabre:  yes, I want taht10:22
Kyral!prelink10:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink10:22
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bloody_maryplease someone, i need help mounting and using a additional hdd i added to my pc...10:22
bluefoxicysobersabre:  mine started on .104 and has now reached 116 over the course of a couple months.10:23
shad0w1eok thanks a BUNCH! Seveas, cya people10:23
sobersabrebluefoxicy what u said seems like connectivity problem.10:23
bluefoxicysobersabre:  I unplug/replug the machine often; it's a laptop.10:23
sobersabreand not like dhcp server problem.10:23
bluefoxicysobersabre:  dhcp client problem?10:23
sobersabrelook at the dhcp logs on the router.10:23
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bluefoxicysobersabre:  it sounds like it might be requesting a new lease, instead of an extension on the same IP10:23
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mp3guyis there a command to check the amount of free space on the root hard drive?10:23
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sobersabreno, maybe there's some connectivity problem and dhcp thinks your old IP is till taken, so it giveth you a newe IP.10:24
BadMackTucksometimes the linksys routers tend to hold onto clients after they have disconnected. at least mine does10:24
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bluefoxicysobersabre:  ah10:24
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sobersabreBadMackTuck this sounds like a badly configured DHCP server.10:24
BadMackTuckso, to fix it (i was having other issues) i had to go static for everyone10:24
aris[glande] static ip adress in dhcp config is often useful10:24
aris[glande] too bad my hard router doesn't make it10:24
sobersabrebluefoxicy afaik, linksys routers are running linux. and I know there's a firmware with shell access over the internet for belkin routers, which are based on the same hardware.10:25
BadMackTucksobersabre: cisco screwed it up in the newest firmware release. you can manually edit a lot of the stuff on the router10:25
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bluefoxicysobersabre:  heh.10:25
sobersabreBadMackTuck this sounds nice.10:25
TheBeastI have some strange dependencies here. I'm trying to uninstall apmd via apt-get remove --purge apmd, but apt-get also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop which I don't think it's related to apmd10:25
TheBeastany clue?10:25
iamsthithawhat's the X11 headers package called?10:25
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sobersabreI wish I had a shell on my wifi router.10:25
BadMackTucksobersabre: only one linksys is linux the wrt54g i think10:26
aris[glande] BadMackTuck, that's true ?10:26
sobersabreI'd create 2 local nets.10:26
aris[glande] BadMackTuck, i updated my firmware not so long ago10:26
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BadMackTuckaris[glande] : from my experience yes10:26
aris[glande] but it's a befw11s4 v310:26
BadMackTuckaris[glande] : its the 1.5 firmware isnt it?10:26
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aris[glande] an old beast ...10:26
sobersabreI wonder which kernel it runs... any ideas ?10:26
sobersabrewhat uname -a prints ?10:26
aris[glande] 1.45.10 Apr 15 200410:27
SeveasTheBeast, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which can be safely remove, just make sure you have it installed when you upgrade to dapper10:27
aris[glande] the latest advised firmware10:27
sobersabre:)10:27
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sobersabreis dapper already usable ?10:27
TheBeastSeveas may I ask you what's dapper?10:27
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sobersabreTheBeast: next release of ubunt, i guess...10:28
bluefoxicySeveas:  i'll hold off on dapper until gnome 2.14 is in beta.10:28
TheBeastsobersabre oh:)10:28
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Seveas!dapper10:28
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake10:28
aris[glande] they just released the new xorg10:28
aris[glande] it *will* bug10:28
bluefoxicySeveas:  i'm looking forward to firefox 1.5, thunderbird 1.5, and gnome 2.1410:28
Seveasit *does* bug :)10:28
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sobersabredoes anybody know of some gnome applet or tool to suspend to ram/ or standby my laptop ?10:28
Seveasbluefoxicy, FF1.5 is not that special10:28
navaroneSeveas> doe sthat mean it's okay to uninstall bittorretn...I had same dependency issue with ubuntu-desktop when trying to remove it...?10:28
Seveasnavarone, correct10:28
DShepherdbluefoxicy: I an using firefox now on ubuntu. Running if from a folder.. pretty nice it is10:28
bluefoxicySeveas:  red hat btw has openoffice.org running with free java, we need :)10:29
bluefoxicyDShepherd:  as am I10:29
navaroneokay...thnx10:29
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DShepherdI am*10:29
Seveasbluefoxicy, so does Ubuntu10:29
bluefoxicySeveas:  the auto-update feature of FF1.5 is good, it updates extensions MUCH better than current firefox.10:29
bluefoxicySeveas:  the current firefox can BREAK if you try to install a new version of an installed extension.10:29
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helpmeHello10:30
DShepherdbluefoxicy: there is one issue I dont like.. the reording of tabs, it bugs out sometimes10:30
BadMackTuckaris[glande] : just go static addressing, its easy if you dont plug into a bunch of different nets all the time10:30
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Seveasbluefoxicy, as if FX isn't broken enough already ;)10:30
ssmithsmithsr9310:30
aris[glande] BadMackTuck, i have tons of network hardware10:30
DShepherdbluefoxicy: you need to run it under another profile, then the current firefox wont break10:30
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bluefoxicySeveas:  extensions also have new interfaces that let them do things safely; the old interfaces could create massive race conditions and other ugly things :)10:30
aris[glande] i worked too long without a dhcp10:30
_jasonis there a command that will produce the same output as a double-tap of the tab button for auto-completion lists?10:30
Seveasssmith, if that was your nickserv pass, reset it with /msg nickserv set password new_pass10:30
navaronebluefoxity> does current Firefox have a translation panel extension? I use extension in win2k...not sure what version in windows...but my ff in ubuntu is standard install version...10:30
helpmeokay...is there any way in the world to not have to just use the programs that are in the synaptic package manager? like can't i just download something off the internet that is for linux and install it?10:30
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[Kismet] /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 4109732010:31
Seveashelpme, sure10:31
BadMackTuckaris[glande] : that sucks. good luck with that10:31
helpmeokay...HOW10:31
Seveas[Kismet] ,  /msg nickserv set password new_pass10:31
bluefoxicyDShepherd:  no, I mean, if you run firefox 1.0, install MyExtension 0.9, then install MyExtension 1.0, if MyExtension doesn't clean its old version up Firefox could fuck the install up and break the extension and possibly itself fatally.10:31
Seveashelpme, download, unpack, read instructions10:31
_jason[Kismet] , you probably want to change your password now10:31
[Kismet] I think so :)10:31
bluefoxicyDShepherd:  in FF1.5, Firefox says "I have MyExtension 0.9.  When you restart I'll remove it and install 1.0"10:31
DShepherdbluefoxicy: oh sounds scary10:31
helpmeokay thanks very much i'm new to linux...REALLY NEW you might see me fairly often....:)10:32
bluefoxicyBIG difference.10:32
ssmithNewbie to Ubuntu10:32
DShepherdbluefoxicy: great10:32
aris[glande] BadMackTuck, i'll stick with the random' dhcp right now. it just annoys me because openssh always bitch about wrong public keys10:32
helpmeum...btw where can i get unpack?10:32
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ssmithNot sure of how to use this IRC channel10:32
bluefoxicySeveas:  oh neat we do, I didn't notice that.10:32
aris[glande] (I have 5 or 6 different openssh servers at home :) )10:32
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DShepherdssmith, typing is a way to start10:32
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BadMackTuckthats five or six more than i have10:32
Xenguyhelpme: occasionally you might want to manually download a .deb file and install with 'dpkg -i', but mostly you *want* the convenience of synaptic or apt-get10:33
ssmithOk, thanks10:33
Seveashelpme, if you are new to linux, just stick to what synaptic gives you10:33
ssmithtrying to set up kids pc w/ Ubuntu10:33
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Seveasit has over 17000 packages10:33
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mp3guywhere can i get w32codecs and libdvdcss2?10:33
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Seveas!dvd10:33
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl10:33
Seveas!w32codecs10:33
ubotuwell, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/10:33
bluefoxicySeveas:  Ubuntu needs a SimpleNaptic or something.10:33
ssmithNormally I am RH person, but too bloated Ubuntu quicker10:33
gimmulf_soundray: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin10:33
Seveasbluefoxicy, such as applications -> add applications?10:33
bluefoxicySeveas:  screw having 17000 packages; give me "Office" "Grahics" "Games"10:33
helpmei have the capagbilitilies to learn what i need to do so just tell me please...how do you do the dpkg command.....what would you type for example10:33
ssmithhow do I install Java10:34
aris[glande] hmm, no package for nocatauth :(10:34
Seveasbluefoxicy, I repeat the last sentence :)10:34
dapperisdrake!javadebs10:34
ubotuhmm... javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/10:34
[Kismet] Which patches are made by ubuntu breezy to vanillia kernel?10:34
ssmithcannot fine fakeroot command10:34
Seveasssmith, sudo apt-get install fakeroot10:34
Seveasssmith, sudo apt-get install java-package (for make-jpkg)10:34
Xenguyhelpme: dpkg -i packagename10:34
helpmelike the filename?10:34
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Xenguyhelpme: yes10:35
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helpmethanksmuch10:35
dapperisdrakeyankees sucks10:35
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Red-Soxhi10:35
Red-Soxfor some reason, FireFox wont open for me! Opera works fine, though10:35
oshSince every selection I've done so far has been wrong. What's the correct cups-driver for a HP LaserJet4L? It's connected via the serial port.10:35
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Seveasprinter on serial10:36
Seveaswoah...10:36
TheBeastserial?10:36
TheBeastmaybe parallel10:36
Seveasosh, the add printer thing in the menu will suggest a driver10:36
Seveastake that one10:36
oshSeveas: Right, not serial. Paralell.10:36
_jasonRed-Sox, you may have an instance of firefox already running, try: killall firefox-bin10:36
soundraygimmulf_, will that ruin my 1.5 installation, though?10:36
soundraygimmulf_, I mean j2sdk1.510:37
oshSeveas: I'm not in  X here. I'm doing the cups-web-gui.10:37
Seveasosh, ah, sec10:37
Seveasfor my laserjet 5l it uses ljet410:38
Seveasmight very well apply to the 4l too10:38
soundraySorry, I forgot, who was asking about a kernel for Pentium D CPUs earlier?10:38
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Red-Sox_jason: thank you so so so so much!10:38
Seveas<strike>might very well apply to</strike> works for the 4l too10:38
_jasonRed-Sox, yw10:38
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bluefoxicyaww10:38
gimmulf_soundray:  im not sure10:38
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bluefoxicyI was trying to make llvm compile the linux kernel ;)10:38
bluefoxicyit cried :)10:38
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Seveas:)10:39
Seveasapt-get install tissue10:39
Seveas;)10:39
glouphIs there some way I can access my debian file system using the ubuntu live CD ?10:39
oshSeveas: So I should select the "AppSocket/HP JetDirect" in the setup menu?10:39
glouphTo backup my files10:39
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bluefoxicyglouph:  mount it10:40
Seveasosh, -ENOCLUE (never used the cups web thing and I sure as hell am not a printer guru)10:40
glouphI tried but it says "already mounted or busy"10:40
bluefoxicywhat command did you use10:40
glouphI did mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mnt/oldfs but it doesnt work :|10:40
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bluefoxicydev sda?10:41
bluefoxicyyou used a whole hard disk unpartitioned?10:41
glouphYes10:41
glouphUh10:41
bluefoxicyrather than sda1?10:41
Paradosso!mplayer10:41
ubotuI heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106110:41
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Xenguyaj_: I would get several 2nd opinions on your question10:41
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Paradosso!msttcorefonts10:41
soundrayglouph, bluefoxicy, it should mount existing partitions automatically.10:41
soundrayglouph, I get desktop icons for all my partitions when I boot Ubuntu live.10:41
ubotumethinks msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first10:41
helpmei tried to use  that command yall told me and it said i needed super user privilages10:41
butcherbirdglouph, type 'mount' showing already mounted?10:41
DShepherdglouph: try sudo10:41
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Seveasomg, who F*ed up ubotu10:41
ubuntuany suggestions for a laptop???  no to expensive may be betwen 600 and 900 dollars10:41
Paradosso!screen10:41
ubotuI guess screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935   and   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen)  AND  http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/10:41
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oshSeveas: Ok, I've done some crap now. Let's see if that works. Might you tell me how I can see which printer driver it uses?10:42
glouph'moun't doesn't show it already mounted10:42
Seveasmsttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first10:42
Seveas!no msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first10:42
ubotuokay, Seveas10:42
glouphI sudo'ed10:42
matrix-ubuntuhi10:42
[Kismet] Can I  use SATA HD as root for my kernel if I remove initrd?10:42
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matrix-ubuntui just installed ubuntu10:42
matrix-ubuntuhow to i install gcc10:42
bluefoxicy!no!  Bad bot!10:42
ubotubluefoxicy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:42
Seveas[Kismet] , removing initrd is always bad10:42
glouphsoundray, you are lucky :|10:42
bluefoxicy!botsnack10:42
ubotu:)10:42
Seveas!lart bluefoxicy10:42
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matrix-ubuntuhello10:43
ajmitch_Seveas: stop playing with the bot10:43
Seveasmatrix-ubuntu, sudo apt-get install build-essential10:43
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Seveasajmitch_, :)10:43
thoreauputicSeveas: msttcorefonts - I think your correction  still has a typo10:43
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[Kismet] Seveas, why removing initrd is always bad? Even if I recompile my own kernel?10:43
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ajmitch_Seveas: I'd hate to have to call an op to kick you :)10:43
thoreauputicSeveas: ah sorry - misread10:43
trappistSeveas: why is removing initrd always bad10:43
Seveasajmitch_, you ARE an op iirc10:43
bluefoxicySeveas:  you know you can have the same trade name as another company if you're in different technology fields, right?10:43
ajmitch_Seveas: sure :)10:43
hav0kdoes anyone know anything about gDesklets?10:43
[Kismet] hav0k, whay you want to know?10:43
bluefoxicySeveas:  i.e. Hershey's Creamery, Hershey's Chocolate?  Different companies, not affiliated.10:44
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helpmeit said i needed super user pricilages...how do i get those....i'm the admin of my computer10:44
oshSeveas: You da man. Now it works. Thanks for the pointers. =)10:44
_jasonubotu, tell helpme about sudo10:44
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hav0ki made it so the tray icon wouldnt show up, but now i dont know how to go back and configure it10:44
bluefoxicySeveas:  ponder:  Trojan Anti-Virus?  :D10:44
DShepherdhelpme: use sudo before the command10:44
Seveasosh, glad I could help and that it actually worked instead of mess up more :)10:44
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gimmulf_Is the amd64 ubuntu dist called Hoary?10:44
bluefoxicygimmulf_:  breezy.10:45
Seveasgimmulf_, Hoary is the old version, Breezy is the latest10:45
gimmulf_oki10:45
bluefoxicygimmulf_:  I recommend dapper.  *hides*10:45
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ubuntumatrix-ubuntu,    check this out   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8029510:45
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Red-Soxhow do you PM ubotu?10:45
SeveasRed-Sox, the same way as you PM any other person or bot10:46
bluefoxicyRed-Sox:  Ubotu will automatically pm you if you a/s/l it.10:46
dapperisdrakeRed-Sox: /msg ubotu <question>10:46
helpmeokay it worked thnx for the help....10:46
Red-Soxoh10:46
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bluefoxicygimmulf_:  you do know I was kidding about dapper, right?  :)10:46
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trappistSeveas: why is removing initrd always bad?10:47
bdb84hello10:47
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Seveastrappist, you need it for booting...10:47
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bluefoxicytrappist:  because it has the sata/ide drivers to control your physical hard disk10:47
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trappistSeveas: generally only if your fs drivers are compiled as modules10:48
hav0k[Kismet] , do you know anything about gDesktlets?10:48
Seveastrappist, ubuntu uses minimalistic kernels with a lot in modules10:48
[Kismet] hav0k, try to ask10:48
Seveasincluding IDE drivers and all filesystems10:48
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hav0ki made it so the tray icon wouldnt show up, but now i dont know how to go back and configure it10:49
Seveashav0k, gdesklets --shell10:49
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Seveasan change it back :)10:49
[Kismet] Seveas, ok I know that, but if I compile my own kernel there is no need for the initrd, isn't it?10:49
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seifeWhy when i click on updates icon it tells me this Unable to get exclusive lock10:49
seifeThis usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first10:49
Seveas[Kismet] , unless you want usplash10:49
babagjust installed ubuntu and have no mouse or keyboard function.10:49
trappist[Kismet] : if you make sure you have everything you need to boot compiled in10:49
hav0koh, thanks Seveas10:49
ClayGany simple straight forward port scanners like ultrascanner?10:49
ClayGbut for nix?10:49
matrix-ubuntui am tryin to install libdbnet1.7 i get this error http://pastebin.com/44148110:50
Seveasseife, close synaptic, apt-get or whatever installer is open10:50
ClayGthat will let you scan ranges?10:50
ClayGgui10:50
trappistClayG: nmap10:50
SeveasClayG, nmap10:50
trappistClayG: there's like a dozen gui frontends for nmap10:50
babaghow does one get around that kind of problem?10:50
ClayGanything better than nmapfe?10:50
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trappist'better' is pretty much personal taste10:50
ClayGwoudl you tell me one besides nmapfe?10:50
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ClayGa name of one10:50
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seifeSeveas, there is not of them opened10:51
seifeThe problem is, when i was instaling, on the final lap, like 70% my comp just got too hot and went off.10:51
[Kismet] Seveas, usplash is the only patch done by ubuntu to the vanillia kernel?10:51
seifeWhen i turned up, i dunno why i could get into ubuntu, lolz10:51
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sladen[Kismet] : usplash is userspace.  no patch!10:52
ubuntumatrix-ubuntu,  check this is call automatix  This is a graphical interface for installation of a lot of apps on UBUNTU BREEZY   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8029510:52
ssmithSeveas;  I cannot sudo apt-get install java-package : package not found:  Why?10:52
rdancerwhy can't totem handle video/mpeg nor audio/x-ac3 in the default install?10:52
Seveas[Kismet] , it's not a kernel patch, it's early userspace10:52
trappistClayG: http://pages.infinit.net/rewind/10:52
Seveasssmith, enable multiverse10:52
Siph0nhey.... is there a quick howto to set up a bluetooth mouse in ubuntu? i tryed searching the forum, but no luck :(10:52
ClayGtrappist, thanks10:52
seifeSeveas, any suggest?10:53
ssmithSeveas, multiverse is under synaptic?10:53
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Seveasssmith, yes10:54
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londonboi2k3Hi guys, does anyone know if TV tuner cards can be used under linux and what software I would need to use10:54
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londonboi2k3oh and im using the hybrid+fm pci avertv card10:55
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butcherbirdlondonboi2k3, have u looked at mythtv?10:55
seifeSeveas, any suggest?10:56
londonboi2k3butcherbird, no, what is it?10:56
DShepherdssmith: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse <-- tells you how to enable multiversse10:56
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[Kismet] londonboi2k3, which kind of TV tuner? DVB? or Analog Television? For DVB you can use Kaffeine or Xine10:57
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matrix-ubuntuso when when i want to install software i do sudo ./configure10:57
SeveasNO10:57
SeveasNEVER run configure or make as root10:57
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duckduckduckonly run make install as root10:57
keikoz1...10:57
Enneican an ex-Slackware newb ask a silly question?10:57
definityhey evreyone10:57
keikoz1where is the pbl telling gnight ???10:57
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londonboi2k3[Kismet] , its DVB, im in the UK and its a AVerTV Hybrid+FM10:57
definityhow do you list all the command in konsole?10:57
keikoz1fuck10:57
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definityis there a way10:57
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cyberdurand10:58
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definityany one know?10:58
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[Kismet] londonboi2k3, so I think that the best choice will be Kaffeine. MythTV instead is a project that transform your machine to a Media Center10:58
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_jasondefinity, tap tab twice10:58
bluefoxicyWhy the heck is ssh -X working to 192.168.1.50 but not .11610:59
bluefoxicyboth ubuntu breezy10:59
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bluefoxicy$DISPLAY isn't getting set >:|10:59
definitythanks jason :)10:59
londonboi2k3[Kismet] , ok, but how do I get it working? is there drivers that I need or anything like that10:59
[Kismet] londonboi2k3, whit Kaffeine you'll get automatic scanning of the channel for the "known location"10:59
gimmulf_h, i've installed blackdown and the java plugin for FF is at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so  but i cant find "java" option in the Extensions10:59
DaveRagAnyone been able to install the integrated wireless card in the Dell Inspiron 9200 laptop for Ubuntu?10:59
[Kismet] londonboi2k3, are you using breezy?11:00
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londonboi2k3[Kismet] , im using dapper on this pc, like finding bugs ;)11:00
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Enneiis it possible to install a .deb Ubuntu package and have all the dependencies?11:00
Enneiresolved...?11:00
duckduckduckit's not an extension it's a plugin11:00
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rdancershould totem *not* handle AC3 and MPEG streams by default? what am i doing wrong??11:01
[Kismet] londonboi2k3, ok so you have to "dmesg | grep dvb" and report the bugs11:01
[Kismet] sorry I mean report the output :)11:01
l3mi'm trying to get my ati card's tv out to work with ubuntu, but no matter what i try, it's always black and white on the tv. the same tv works fine with another computer with an nvidia card. i used fglrx drivers, downloaded with apt. any ideas?11:01
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xoredwhat is mean by "x- includes ?11:02
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[Kismet] Stupid question: which are the difference between root (hd0,0) command inside GRUB and the root=/dev/sda7 param give to the kernel?11:02
xoredwhat is mean by "x- includes" X-server inludes, but where are they normaly located ?11:03
dcmDoes anyone have success with sound in Breezy - mine worked with Hoary, but silence in Breezy11:03
LMX2hmm, what was the command to bring forward stopped proceses?11:03
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davroIm using ubuntu breezy, gtk-gnutella show that the version is somewhat old and should be upgraded, could this be upgraded using apt, or is the a better P2P app than this ?11:04
[Kismet] dcm sure mine was working with hoary and breezy11:04
LMX2dcm, does any output(esd/alsa/oss) plugin work or none?11:04
[Kismet] LMX2 fg11:04
LMX2[Kismet] , ah, thanks11:05
dcmNothing works - the sound card is detected, drivers show as loaded, sound is not muted.11:05
DaveRagMy Inspiron 9200 wireless card looks like it gets a IPv6 address but not a IPv4 add (i can detect the networks fine)11:05
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[Kismet] LMX2 instead you can us "bg &" to let run on background11:05
divineomegaHi. I'm using the very latest version of Ubuntu and I can't add any more applications? They are grayed out.11:05
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[Kismet] DaveRag, have you tryed with "ifconfig" command?11:06
LMX2[Kismet] , how do you mean, bg command &?11:06
djm62in breezy, my sigmatel MSCN Music Player no longer mounts automatically as Usb Mass Storage: how can I change this, and where can I report it11:06
Siph0ni almost got bluetooth working... but when i do the hidd --connect <mac address> , it says Cant get device information: Success11:06
Siph0nne ideas? it says success but it isnt workin :)11:06
djm62(when I try to mount it, I get something about UDI)11:06
DaveRag[kismet]  yeah that's the command that tells me i have only a ipv6 add11:06
LMX2dcm, try running alsamixer in a terminal and see if the masterm, headphone or pcm sliders are muted11:07
[Kismet] Siph0n, is hidden or discoverable the BT device?11:07
Red-Soxin the ubuntu forums, why does it say 5 cups of ubuntu for someone who only has 3?11:07
[Kismet] DaveRag, and have you tryed with ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 (assuming that eth0 is the interface without IPv4)11:08
Siph0n[Kismet] : what u mean hidden or discoverable? its a bluetooth mouse11:08
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dcmI ran als mixer - no master volume shows up, nor pcm. Headphones are not muted - but I've tried the headset both muted and not.11:08
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GNAMGNUBUNTU RULEZ!11:08
DaveRag[kismet]  it says permission denied11:08
GNAMis gnubuntu withous apache?11:08
Marthi all11:08
GNAMwithout11:08
[Kismet] LMX2 for example if you do sudo synaptic and then you press CTRL+Z so synaptic is stoped and then try with "bg &" to see what happen11:09
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MartIm sure you all get this all the time... but anyone have 2 mins to spare, nice easy question11:09
[Kismet] LMX2, you'll get synaptic running and the prompt working11:09
LMX2[Kismet] , ah, i see, thanks11:09
[Kismet] DaveRag, try with sudo before the command11:09
thoreauputicMart: just ask, don't ask to ask11:09
Martlol11:09
thoreauputic:)11:09
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Martright... extreamly new to linux11:10
LMX2dcm, thats weird, the first slider isnt master?11:10
Martinstalled fine. after login i get a very tiny sqaure of colours11:10
dcmno, the first slider is bass.11:10
[Kismet] Siph0n, the BT device can be see by only certain device that are already paired with them in that case the are in "hidden" mode11:10
MartI guess its the drivers for for my graphics11:10
DaveRag[kismet]  ok well now it displays that address but connection still doesn't work...11:10
Martbut i cannot install the run file for graphics as i get the error i need binutils11:11
Siph0n[Kismet] : so how do i see if my dongle is paired with the mouse?11:11
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LMX2dcm, hmm, you can use the right/left cursor to check if there any master/pcm sliders11:11
Martwhich i cannot find or install11:11
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ParadossoI need a simple yet powerful HTML editor to manage my site under ubuntu. Which one do you advise?11:11
R0bNychow can I get Xubuntu on my ubuntu ? and also kubuntu :)11:11
Martwhere do i find it... how do i install it into the right place11:11
ClayGtrappist during ./configure when trying to get knmap working I got an  error11:12
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[Kismet] Siph0n, I haven't had a BT mouse before, you should read the manual of the BT mouse. Anyway my are just guessing for solution of your trouble11:12
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ClayGdo you have time to take a quick look?11:12
Siph0nk kool :)11:12
Siph0nthink i got it11:12
ClayGor anyone for that matter, I dont yet have the compiling down pat11:12
dcmI've tried that - I even went so far as to put hoary back on - sound worked right off the bat. Put Breezy back on and no sound, no master slider, no pcm slider.11:12
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[Kismet] DaveRag, which test have you done to understand that network is not working?11:12
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dcmAccording to the various commands, the EV1938 is there, the ens_1371 drivers are loaded.11:13
ClayGhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/gyuFau12.html11:13
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seifeSomeone help me configuring my wireless network please..11:13
nishiroyatoi want to configure speedstep settings for my laptop.  ive read something about GNOME 2 panel but dont know how to open it or access it or if its even what im looking for11:14
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djm62seife: describe your network, your card, and how far you've got11:14
ParadossoHi everybody, I need a simple yet powerful HTML editor to manage my site under ubuntu. Which one do you advise?11:14
helix_Paradosso, bluefish11:14
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EsersGOT IT11:15
Esershave ubuntu11:15
MartTrying to install nvidia graphics drivers i get the error that it cannot find binutils in my "ID" anyone know a way past11:15
Esersclaps hands jumps up11:15
thoreauputicParadosso: if you want WYSIWYG, nvu - if not there are lots of others like bluefish (or even vim ;) )11:15
Martor where to get binutils... all this in the recovery console11:15
Eserssays: UBUNTU ROCKS!11:15
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thoreauputic!info nvu11:15
Esersbut problems! How to gain access to windows hard drives?11:15
ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB11:16
oxezMart: what if you try 'sudo apt-get install binutils' ?11:16
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LMX2dcm, sorry, mi clueless, try searching the forums11:16
bluefoxicyin dapper, anyone know the problem with libpangocairo?11:16
oxezwoo11:16
LMX2dcm, im*11:16
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Esersanyone11:16
butcherbirdEsers, example: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever11:16
nishiroyatohow can i access the CPU frequency panel in Gnome?11:16
dcmThanks, I tried the forums - it seems there are lots of users with different sound cards with no sound in breezy.11:16
Martokey just to warn you... i have no idea what you just typed!11:17
bluefoxicyrhythmbox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string11:17
butcherbirdEsers, type sudo fdisk -l to get the partition info, hda1 or hda2 etc11:17
Martthankyou though, I can find out what sudo means11:17
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Esersfor examp if my win c: is hdc1 then: sudo mount -o unmask=0000 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc11:17
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Esers?11:17
butcherbirdEsers, should work11:17
djm62mart: sudo allows you to do a command with administrator privileges11:17
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Esersok i'll give it a try11:17
Esersp.s. no problems with ntfs?11:18
Martahh... i see11:18
alex4084__#sucre11:18
bluefoxicyah, it needs newer glib.11:18
Martsorry, litterly the fist time ive ever install or even looked at linux :P11:18
butcherbirdEsers, that is a format for ntfs but it wont allow u to write11:18
butcherbirdEsers, only read11:18
LMX2Esers, you probably need to tell it what filetyp it is with: -t ntfs11:18
Esersyeah tha i know11:18
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djm62Mart: hope you aren't finding it too jarring ;)11:18
Esersjust know that fact that using writing tools you can fuck up your hd11:18
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LMX2Esers, also, add the ,ro after umask=000011:19
Marthaha11:19
Martbeautiful pun11:19
afabianI installed XP on FAT32.  I keep windows around 'just in case.'11:19
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Martthanks for the help... linux on another partition, so g'buy :)11:19
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fabiobSomebody with problems with galeon, in dapper?11:20
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Paradoxxwhat remote login software would you all recommend?11:20
Esersgot back11:20
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djm62Paradoxx: ssh, or vnc11:20
Red-Soxfabbione: im not sure, but I dont think you are supposed to talk about dapper here11:21
afabianParadoxx, openssh!11:21
Eserssudo mount -o unmask=0000 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc = /mnt/winc does not exist11:21
Esers????11:21
NoUseEsers have you created that directory?11:21
Paradoxxgui wise?11:21
IcemanV9sudo mkdir /mnt/winc11:21
Esersoh ok!11:22
Esersthanks11:22
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djm62Paradoxx: it depends...vnc will give you a gui from anywhere with java, ssh will give you a gui from anywhere with X11:22
Eserspermmision denied!11:22
londonboi2k3Hello guys, does anyone here run a radeon 9200 ati card on ubuntu? I cant seem to get mine to work with the xorg drivers11:22
djm62Paradoxx: ssh doesn't depend on X, or even graphics11:22
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NoUselondonboi2k3 I dont think that card is supported by the xorg drivers, you probably need the ati drivers11:23
NoUse!ati11:23
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1011:23
Esersis in ubuntu root pass the same as user?11:23
IcemanV9Esers: with sudo?!?11:23
blue-frogdjm62, can i pm you about ssh and X?11:23
Esersno with mkdir11:24
NoUseEsers root is disabled in ubuntu, you just use sudo11:24
londonboi2k3in xorg.cof, its got the driver as ati, should it be radeon? NoUse, it is perfectly supported, I used it with breezy, but since using dapper its not working :)11:24
sobersabredoes anybody in here use Pentium4 D (64-bit) CPU ?11:24
Esersok11:24
Esersthe11:24
djm62blue-frog: you could do, but I'd prefer you discussed in channel11:24
NoUselondonboi2k3 thats probably due to dapper11:24
Esershow to create the directory in mnt11:24
Esers?11:24
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NoUseEsers sudo mkdir /mnt/winc11:24
Eserswith sudo?11:24
Esersok!11:24
Esers:D11:24
Esersthanks!11:24
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djm62(apart from anything else, I'm waiting for an answer)11:24
[Kismet] Esers, just need the right to create the directory11:24
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Esersbeen using mandriva so....11:24
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londonboi2k3NoUse, yeah this is quite possible, just wanted to have some fun and try to break it (dapper) :)11:25
seifeSomeone help me to get wireless network working please please please11:25
[Kismet] Esers, so you  probabily need to use the command sudo before the mkdir11:25
NoUselondonboi2k3 from what I've heard, dapper doesn't need much help breaking itself11:25
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djm62seife: I asked you a while ago to describe the network, your card, and how far you've got11:25
blue-frogdjm62, ok but it's not a ubuntu question... what do you need to activate in ssh conf to launch X on computer 2 when accessing computer 1?11:25
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londonboi2k3NoUse, well I am not having many problems with it, everything works perfectly so far, only one bug report11:25
londonboi2k3:)11:26
Esers$ sudo mount -o unmask=0000 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc11:26
Esersmount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /mnt/winc busy11:26
Esersmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc1 is mounted on /media/hdc111:26
Eserskrists@ubuntuhome:~$11:26
Esers???11:26
SeveasEsers, whatever the problem is: DON'T PASTE11:26
Esersok ok11:26
oxezEsers: umount /mnt/winc11:26
oxezEsers: with sudo11:26
oxezhm nvm, sudo umount /media/winc , sorry11:26
seifedjm62, im using a Intersil Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset, i set DHCP, and ssid, and i still dont have wireless internet11:27
Esersok11:27
Esersand then again mount?11:27
seifedjm62, i want internet with wireless11:27
Lord_AthurI'm editing the settings of my user in wiki, but what does "User CSS URL" correspond to?11:27
IcemanV9well, Esers, it IS mounted at /media/hdc1 .. look in there :)11:27
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ssmithquestion for installing java to firefox11:27
djm62seife: did you set essid, THEN dhcp ?11:27
[Kismet] Hi have 2 network interface on my laptop eth0 and eth1 how can I ensure that eth0 will be every time the same physical interface?11:27
Eserspermission denied11:27
SeveasLord_Athur, leave it empty :)11:27
ssmithcreate symbolic link?11:27
Comrade_Vladimircrimsun r u on?11:27
djm62seife: is your card detected correctly?11:27
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DShepherdEsers: sudo command11:27
Eserswhat sudo11:27
DShepherd!sudo11:28
ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:28
Eserssudo /media/hdc1 ?11:28
[Kismet] !kernel11:28
fabiobEsers, look in /media/hdc111:28
Esersto gain permanent access11:28
Comrade_Vladimirhow long does it usually take to get the ubuntu disks in the mail11:28
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IcemanV9[Kismet] : hm, you might want to check the file > /etc/network/interfaces11:28
opnsrcI inserted a DVD in my drive and ti loaded Totem Movie player and it didn't play11:28
thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir: mine took about 6 weeks11:28
Seveas!no sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:29
ubotuSeveas: okay11:29
opnsrcIt just sat there and did nothing with a blank screen. How do I fix it, do I need to add drivers, regions, or anything?11:29
Comrade_Vladimirjeez11:29
Comrade_Vladimirwhere do u live11:29
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opnsrcit *11:29
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seifedjm62, i just clicked on activate but nothing tells me like windows "wireless lan detected" etc..11:29
fabiobopnsrc, try movie -> play disc11:29
thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir:  .au11:29
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[Kismet] IcemanV9, I've already looked there... :(11:29
djm62seife: can you open a terminal?11:29
opnsrcI tried11:29
opnsrcit says playing11:29
opnsrcbut it's not11:29
DShepherdEsers: sudo  command  /media/hd**11:29
thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir: I don't think where you live has much influence on the time11:29
Comrade_Vladimiri live in north america part time so longer huh11:29
LoevborgIs dictionary.reference.com painfully slow for you, too? e.g. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=treachery11:29
Comrade_Vladimiryea travel time11:30
Esers:(11:30
oxezEsers: yea sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc11:30
djm62seife: and type iwconfig and ifconfig11:30
djm62to get quick diagnostics11:30
IcemanV9[Kismet] : ah. i don't know what else to say .. hope someone else do :(11:30
fabiobopnsrc, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?11:30
opnsrcGT Streamer11:30
[Kismet] where can I find information related to udev?11:30
opnsrcGSTreamer11:30
opnsrcsorry11:30
Esers:(11:30
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fabiobopnsrc, try to install totem-xine, it is more complete atm11:31
oxez!tell [Kismet]  about udev11:31
Eserssometimes linux ir just pain in the ass!11:31
trappist[Kismet] : do the two cards use the same driver, or no?11:31
opnsrcok thanks11:31
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fabiobopnsrc, np11:31
[Kismet] trappist, no11:31
dbarbi1can anybody get resume to work after installing the ati driver?11:31
opnsrcIf I install a new kernel, one made for the 686 instead of the one I have on there for the 38611:31
[Kismet] trappist, they are using different driver11:31
opnsrcwill it automatically choose the one for the 686 after installation?11:31
trappistKimppa: load the drivers in the desired order (first will be eth0) in /etc/modules11:31
devintIs there a way to freaking get bayesian filtering or something in evolution? I'm tired of manually marking all my mail as junk, I need to train a filter11:31
opnsrc(even though both are installed)?11:31
zeeblesomeone suggest a place to grab a good sources.list after a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.1011:31
DShepherdEsers: people say that when they lack knowledge, I guess you are new... so your forgiven. Dont say that11:32
oxezopnsrc: you can choose which one you want to boot with with GRUB11:32
oxezwhen you reboot11:32
DShepherdagain*11:32
opnsrcI don't know how to do that11:32
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opnsrcI don't even have Grub installed11:32
trappistdevint: I believe spamassassin can be made to work with evolution11:32
oxezopnsrc: are you sure?11:32
mrkojehow do I edit my $path file11:32
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djm62blue-frog: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config set X11Forwarding to Yes11:32
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opnsrcOr maybe11:32
afabiandevint, I haven't used evolution, but I imagine it can read from standard UNIX spools or maildirs.  Set up an MTA and use spamassassin or dspam.11:32
opnsrcBut it's not a GUi then11:32
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opnsrcit just boots11:32
oxezopnsrc: nah11:32
djm62blue-frog: on the machine that you ssh into11:32
oxezopnsrc: when you boot your computer, do you see a screen where you can select which OS to boot?11:33
opnsrcnope11:33
oxezdo you have more than one OS on your computer?11:33
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opnsrcyeah, but each one is on a different HD11:33
kjonI have problems with e2fsck. It says that some of my files have duplicate blocks and a message like <file metadata> appears. What does that mean? Are my files damaged?11:33
opnsrcI just switch from the Bios11:33
oxezoh ok11:33
oxezopnsrc: I'd try to install the new kernel, and reboot11:33
opnsrcMy question is will it automatically use the best kernel for my processor11:34
opnsrceven though synpatic shows many are installed11:34
oxezyou will have to choose which one to boot11:34
dbarbi1does anyone have sleep/resume working after installing the ati video driver?11:34
opnsrcHow do I do that/11:34
opnsrc?11:34
oxezopnsrc: Did you reboot since you installed the other kernels?11:34
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opnsrcNope, they're still installing11:34
kjonAny hints with e2fsck please... I need to save my anime T-T11:34
opnsrcWill it ask?11:34
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oxezopnsrc: Then, once they're installed, reboot and you'll probably see a screen with multiple kernels11:35
opnsrcCool11:35
oxez'probably' :P11:35
opnsrcWill that screen always come up or just the first time?11:35
oxezAlways11:35
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oxezBut, you can remove other kernel afterwards11:35
opnsrcThanks11:35
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djm62seife`: is it working?11:36
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kjonanyone can help me???11:36
seifedjm62, help :'(11:36
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Comrade_Vladimiris there a ctrl alt del like function on ubuntu11:36
seifedjm62, its activated11:36
seifebut i dont have wireless internet11:37
matrix-ubuntui am tryin to save a file on usr i get error no permission11:37
oxezComrade_Vladimir: yes, check out Automatix in the forums11:37
seifedjm62, know what i mean?11:37
noobs_piss_me_ofcontrol alt backspace11:37
matrix-ubuntui am the admin11:37
djm62seife: still not specific enough11:37
noobs_piss_me_oflogs you out11:37
seifedjm62, whats ur question11:37
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oxezComrade_Vladimir: that little app configures ctrl-alt-del for you11:37
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djm62seife: can you right click on the background and bring up a terminal?11:37
Esers:( why can' t ubuntu mount win hdd by default!?!?!? :(11:37
oxezEsers: it does..11:38
seifedjm62, ok know what.11:38
djm62seife: (not nice, but easier to describe on irc)11:38
oxezWhat's your /etc/fstab line?11:38
Esersyeah it does but u can' t use them11:38
matrix-ubuntui am tryin to save a file on usr i get error11:38
noobs_piss_me_ofcontrol alt f2 is terminal11:38
butcherbirdEsers, it should but I dont think it handles ntfs well always11:38
DShepherdoxez: it doesnt11:38
Eserseven mandrake 10 did11:38
Esersthis is newer11:38
oxezDShepherd: ?11:38
opnsrccool, thanks11:38
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noobs_piss_me_ofits the kernel11:38
matrix-ubuntui am tryin to save a file on usr i get error  any ideas why11:38
Comrade_Vladimiroxez no just the task manager?11:38
DShepherdIt doesnt mount on initial install11:38
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DShepherdyou have to edit the fstab.. or mount it your self11:39
djm62seife: oh, then type ifconfig11:39
seifedjm62, what do i have to type,11:39
oxezDShepherd: oh yes11:39
Esersok how can i get access to the mouted hdd11:39
Esers?11:39
djm62seife: and iwconfig11:39
Esersthey are mounted in media11:39
Esersbut no permission11:39
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[Kismet] Esers, have you tryed the GUI from Administration -> Disks11:39
butcherbirdEsers, u need the umask option11:39
oxezEsers: look at my fstab line: /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 011:39
oxezIf you're using NTFS you'll just be able to read that partition, no write access (dangerous)11:40
Esersi KNOW!11:40
Esersi just need to read11:40
oxezThen that line will do it11:40
Esershow to get to fstab11:40
cdubyaEsers, just curious, but did you follow the docs on the wiki?11:40
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Esersfound a forum11:40
cdubyaI was in the same boat, and followed those verbatim and it worked without a hitch.11:40
Esers1000 and 1 answer11:41
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Esersnone worlds11:41
cdubyaI added the line in /etc/fstab..../dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       011:41
seifedjm62, check11:41
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matrix-ubuntuhow do i get root permissions11:41
warrengdoes anybody think it's a little odd that uninstalling evolution (the e-mail program) also tries to uninstall ubuntu-desktop ?11:41
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butcherbirdEsers, sudo gedit /etc/fstab11:41
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blue-frogEsers, change your fstab, then sudo umount /media/hdc1, then sudo mount -a11:41
warrengas does xchat?11:41
cdubyaEsers, mkdir /media/windows, then chown root11:42
KraelocWoot! Got my breezy discs!11:42
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djm62warreng: ubuntu-desktop depends on everything, but nothing depends on ubuntu-desktop11:42
NoUse!tell matrix-ubuntu about root11:42
djm62warreng: it's a meta-package, no need for alarm11:42
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blue-frogmatrix-ubuntu, sudo11:42
DShepherdwarreng: so you should be kool11:42
warrengdjm62: when i mark xchat/evolution for uninstallation, it says it's going to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well11:42
seifedjm62, read private msg.11:42
Esersok have opened the fstab11:42
Eserswhat next11:42
Esers?11:42
duckduckduckwarreng: that's ok11:43
djm62seife: I have11:43
duckduckduckwarreng: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package11:43
djm62and replied11:43
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syndIs there a reason why when I VNC to my Ubuntu box from my OS X box, that I get an odd screen with an X for a cursor?11:43
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Radiobuzzhello11:43
stefan_tag11:43
cdubyaEsers, do you know what dev the ntfs partition is?11:43
Esers/dev/hdc111:43
Esersyeah11:43
RadiobuzzI have a question11:43
cdubyak11:43
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cdubyaso that last command I pasted here...use it, except change the /dev designation to the right one for your winders partition11:44
warrengand why does evolution-data-server uninstall gnome-applets, gnome-panel, natulius.... etc???11:44
Esers/dev/hdc1       /media/hdc1     ntfs    defaults        0       0  <- as i understand have to change something in this line11:44
Eserswhat?11:44
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Radiobuzzfive Ubuntu copies have arrived today at my house, however I can't install it nor use the LiveCD because it tells me that a file is corrupt, this is happening with every CD I got :S11:44
blue-frogEsers, default by umask=00011:44
mustermannsynd - sounds like x-windows without a WM.11:44
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cdubyaEsers, hang on a sec....11:45
cerinhello11:45
oxezRadiobuzz: did you order the cds for the right arch?11:45
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oxezhi11:46
Radiobuzzright arch? Sorry, my english is not very good, what do you mean?11:46
cerincan someone help me with installing Gnoppix 1.0 from a liveCD?11:46
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pinkisntwellwhy is gnome so slow compared to windows xp?11:46
noobs_piss_me_ofwtf?11:46
Sioraithe right archtechure, what kind of processor do you have Radiobuzz  ?11:46
oxezdo you have the right kernel for your processor?11:46
cdubyaEsers, the biggest difference is that your line has the word defaults in it, where mine has this....nls=utf8,umask=022211:46
sexcopter8000mis there an easy way to see how many files are on a given partition?11:46
noobs_piss_me_ofhow big is your swap?11:46
cdubya!ntfs11:47
RadiobuzzI have an Intel Pentium IV11:47
syndmustermann: But I've got a WM running on the box that has the VNC server running11:47
cerinanyone?11:47
warrengand how do i install php5 and mysql5 ?11:47
Radiobuzzand yes, supossedly these are the correct versions for it11:47
oxezpinkisntwell: Do you still have the 386 kernel?11:47
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Radiobuzzoh... wait...11:47
blue-frogcerin, try #gnoppix...11:47
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cerinon what server blue-frog?11:47
noobs_piss_me_offreenode11:48
oxezcerin: is gnoppix like knoppix?11:48
pinkisntwellwhat's that? i installed ubuntu from the cd, didnt change the kernel11:48
cdubyaEsers, did you do this.....ln -s /media/windows ~/Desktop/11:48
oxezif yes, go in #knoppix11:48
blue-frogcerin, don't know have a look at their webpage11:48
noobs_piss_me_ofexactly11:48
noobs_piss_me_ofjust w/ gnome11:48
oxezpingswept: what's your processor?11:48
Radiobuzzyes, I ordered the right CDs11:48
oxezpingswept: nvm, bad tab nick11:48
Esersnop doesn' t work :(11:48
pingsweptoxez: hey what?11:48
pingsweptAh, right.11:48
oxezpinkisntwell: what's your processot?11:48
oxezsorry :P11:48
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pingsweptNO worries.11:48
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blue-frogEsers, change your fstab, then sudo umount /media/hdc1, then sudo mount -a11:49
pinkisntwellathlon xp 200011:49
cdubyaEsers, did you sudo mount -a11:49
pinkisntwell512 MB ram11:49
oxezpinkisntwell: install the -k7 kernel11:49
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pinkisntwellwhat's that?11:49
oxezpinkisntwell: that made a HUGE difference for me11:49
EsersTHANKS!!!!11:49
oxezpinkisntwell: go in synaptic, and install linux-k711:49
cdubyanp11:49
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Radiobuzzso, any suggestions?11:50
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nekroni installed the kubuntu-desktop and my gnome brokes.. why?11:52
opnsrcwhats the difference from the 686 and 686 smp kernel?11:52
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Comrade_Vladimirdeath?11:52
oxezhm, why does mplayer depends on xmms?11:52
nick01ubotu, tell nick01 about ati11:52
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warrengis there a dotdeb equivalent for ubuntu? where i can get latest packages like php5 and mysql5?11:53
DShepherdwhat do I need to play wmv files11:53
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cdubyaDShepherd, mplayer works, methinks......at least it does on mine....:)11:54
ale3hsI got Gaim 1.5.0 ..when u block somebody, there is any way to unblock him ??11:54
warreng? restricted formats11:54
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DShepherdcdubya: totem wont play mine, is the format covered in restricted formats11:54
DShepherd?11:55
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warrengubotu, restricted formats?11:55
uboturestricted formats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'11:55
opnsrcn/m11:55
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Ribsale3hs: tools menu -> Privacy11:55
thoreauputicDShepherd: install totem-xine and get the codecs11:55
thoreauputicDShepherd: the restricted formats wiki will help11:56
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Comrade_Vladimirno it wont11:56
thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir: yes it will11:56
thoreauputic:)11:56
Comrade_Vladimirits not much help when ever i get referred to it11:56
thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir: if you folow it everything works fine11:57
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thoreauputicwhat was your problem?11:57
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RadiobuzzBTW, the option to check the cds integrity also fails11:57
djm62in breezy, my "Sigmatel MSCN Music Player" generic usb-stick mp3 player is no longer auto-mounted as usb-mass-storage: how can I fix it, and where can I report it11:57
Comrade_Vladimirnot for java it didnt work just ask the numerous people who helped me and see thoreauputic11:58
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DShepherdthoreauputic: ok.. I did already.. well I think I did11:58
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ale3hsribs still I dont see the way11:58
thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir: maybe the wrong URLs for java? They keep changing...11:58
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thoreauputic!javadeb11:58
ubotujavadeb is, like, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/11:58
martinchoHow can I make that my serial port mouse works on ubuntu?11:58
djm62I can manually mount it as /dev/sda, but it refuses to automount although it shows up in gnome11:58
Ribsale3hs: Tools menu -> Privacy... Select the account you used to block your friend, select his username, then click remove.11:59
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Comrade_Vladimirno it just doesnt work thoreauputic11:59
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thoreauputicComrade_Vladimir: I have java running here - did you do the update-alternatives --config java step ?11:59

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