[12:00] <mister_roboto> xychix: when i want to do extensive root work, i use "sudo -s" to start a root shell
[12:00] <lightbright> mister_roboto: thats risky
[12:00] <sladen> ardchoille: is it sudo that is still asking for your password;  or gksudo (graphical sudo)
[12:00] <mister_roboto> lightbright: i agree, if you don't know unix and what you're doing
[12:00] <xychix> mister_roboto: i just su... i changed the root pass already, but almost every command i run should run as root
[12:00] <ardchoille> sladen: it was sudo in cli, but it doesn't do it now
[12:00] <lightbright> mister_roboto: do you know what you are doing? :)
[12:01] <DShepherd> hi lightbright
[12:01] <lightbright> anyway brb in 15mins ;)
[12:01] <DShepherd> lightbright: sup?
[12:01] <mister_roboto> lightbright; been using unix for about 15 yrs
[12:01] <xychix> mister_roboto: this install is used as penetrationtesting (hacking) laptop.
[12:01] <sladen> ardchoille: doesn't ask for a password?   (can I confirm, is that what you wanted?)
[12:01] <lightbright> DShepherd:  hello :) your clock not showing anymore?
[12:01] <mister_roboto> lightbright: programming and running it
[12:01] <Sanne> The_Isle_of_Mark: ZynAdd runs :) But: you can use it with jack, if you start the jack daemon beforehand. If not, it uses oss emulation. Just so you know.
[12:01] <lightbright> mister_roboto: ok 15 years wow :) cool
[12:01] <ardchoille> sladen: yes, that is what I wanted :)
[12:01] <lightbright> anyway brb in 15mins :)
[12:01] <maffju> i'm trying to install multimedia codecs but ...
[12:01] <Kelsey23> So, if I install KDE in Ubuntu, it won't erase GDM and I can use it along side of Gnome (like I can use XFCE and FluxBox along side Gnome), corect?
[12:01] <maffju> e.g. apt-get install w32codecs gives E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[12:02] <_jason> ubotu, tell maffju about w32codecs
[12:02] <joefish> is kde in the 'core packages' or in universe?
[12:02] <mister_roboto> xychix: sorry but don't know offhand the easy ubuntu way to boot straight to text. someone here will know though.
[12:02] <_jason> !info kde-desktop
[12:02] <Kelsey23> anyone?
[12:02] <joefish> maffju you need to add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <joefish> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[12:03] <xychix> mister_roboto: thats booting to another init level :) but at this moment i want root in the gdm
[12:03] <Talisker> can I use apt-cache to search inside the description of packages installed on my system?
[12:03] <topyli> Kelsey23: they will both be there, and you can switch between them through the alternatives system
[12:03] <maffju> thanks, I followed http://ubuntuguide.org/ but that wasn't mentioned
[12:03] <mister_roboto> xychix: just setting the password on the root account doesn't work?  (haven't tried it)
[12:03] <joefish> ubotu tell joefish about w32codecs
[12:03] <wicka> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[12:03] <xychix> mister_roboto: nope i did that
[12:03] <_jason> !info kubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[12:03] <xychix> then it tells me root cannot login on console
[12:04] <Madpilot> !tell maffju about ubuntuguide
[12:04] <wicka> I wish I could use that, but I can't, because it's i386 and I'm running amd64.
[12:04] <HrdwrBoB> wicka: so install i386
[12:04] <mister_roboto> !root
[12:04] <ubotu> somebody said root was rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:04] <HrdwrBoB> either in a chroot or just in there
[12:04] <wicka> I tried.
[12:05] <xychix> ubotu: sudo /bin/sh :)
[12:05] <ubotu> Not a clue, xychix
[12:05] <wicka> It basically said wrong arch.
[12:05] <mister_roboto> xychix: gotta be a config to fix that (console login) but dunno where
[12:05] <blanky> get i386
[12:05] <xychix> mister_roboto: i'll just kill init op to level 6 (graphical)
[12:05] <blanky> what type of processor do you have
[12:05] <wicka> The only reason I'm using Linux is because it actually takes advantage of 64-bit.
[12:05] <blanky> wicka, what cpu do you have
[12:05] <blanky> ah, that
[12:05] <wicka> Athlon 64 3000+
[12:05] <blanky> you must get x86-64
[12:05] <maffju> thanks
[12:06] <blanky> or I THINK its i686
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> blanky: no
[12:06] <mister_roboto> xychix: default graphical login in ubuntu is runlevel 2
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> no you don't
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> that's a huge pile of crap
[12:06] <blanky> oh yeah, it works anyways I forgot
[12:06] <blanky> and yeah
[12:06] <RaydenUni> hello
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> you *CAN* run 64bit
[12:06] <RaydenUni> does ubuntu come with SATA drivers?
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> RaydenUni: yes
[12:06] <blanky> but wicka wants to take advantage of 64
[12:06] <xychix> mister_roboto: ugh ... ok  that not normal
[12:06] <xychix> i'll figure it out
[12:06] <mister_roboto> xychix: yeah, felt funny to me too at first but that's how it is
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> blanky: yes but there is very little advantage
[12:07] <cliebow_> anyone know what pkgs slapd needs for dbd?
[12:07] <RaydenUni> i currently have my hard drive partitioned into two parts, both NTFS, any problem installing ubuntu on only one of those?
[12:07] <wicka> Don't tell me that.
[12:07] <RaydenUni> anything i should be aware of?
[12:07] <blanky> yeah, see
[12:07] <mister_roboto> xychix: u can use "runlevel" command to see where you're at
[12:07] <xychix> 2 indeed
[12:07] <doofy> RaydenUni, if you have no free space yea, theres a problem
[12:07] <sethk> wicka, HrdwrBoB is correct, you can certainly run the i386 on that hardware
[12:07] <lexhider> What's the current gnome default [upstream]  for nautilus? spatial or browser?
[12:07] <Kelsey23> what is the apt-get name for KDE, I'm not sure and I refuse to use Synaptic
[12:07] <RaydenUni> i want to format over one of them, cause you can't run NTFS with linux right?
[12:08] <mister_roboto> xychix: gotta go for a bit.  GL
[12:08] <ramza3> what is the log for checking the rc[0-6]  services start? I am looking at /var/log/boot and it doesnt exist
[12:08] <doofy> RaydenUni, correct.
[12:08] <DShepherd> lexhider: for breezy, not sure.. I use browser...
[12:08] <xychix> later
[12:08] <mymayer> which is the current best/good latex editor ?
[12:08] <xychix> mister_roboto: tnx for the help :)
[12:08] <smo> lexhider; last I looked, upstream use spatial
[12:08] <RaydenUni> i want to format one, and leave the other, cause it has data on it
[12:08] <doofy> RaydenUni, when you are installing you can delete one of the NTFS partitions then allow auto partition to use that free space
[12:08] <sladen> mymayer: not sure.  try  lyx
[12:08] <RaydenUni> ok, cool
[12:09] <doofy> RaydenUni, just make sure you know which one you are deleting
[12:09] <builder_> is there an itunes clone for ubuntu?
[12:09] <RaydenUni> i have never installed linux before and my roommate left leaving me to do it alone :P
[12:09] <samu2> mymayer, i just started using kile tonight, and it works fine
[12:09] <Kelsey23> what is the apt-get name for KDE, I'm not sure and I refuse to use Synaptic
[12:09] <terrygao> hey guys
[12:09] <blanky> RaydenUni, wow, you're a genious
[12:09] <RaydenUni> ?
[12:09] <samu2> Kelsey23, isnt that kubuntu-desktop ? and why would you refuse to use synaptic?
[12:09] <ramza3> is it messages?
[12:09] <wicka> So here is my question, my friend is using Ubuntu as well, and he got his sound working without doing all this bullshit with the codecs.
[12:10] <doofy> Synaptic rocks :)
[12:10] <terrygao> ubuntu does not work well with KDE
[12:10] <joefish> kelsey23 - i think it's just apt-get install kde
[12:10] <wicka> So all I want, is to get my sound card working.
[12:10] <Kelsey23> Ok
[12:10] <doofy> wicka what are you trying to get sound out of?
[12:10] <terrygao> try the kde version of ubuntu
[12:10] <joefish> terrygao - why not?  what happens?  i'm new to ubuntu (used to use debian)
[12:10] <blanky> Kelsey23, it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , it's a metapackage so it's hell to uninstall, just use deporphan (or is it depfoster)
[12:10] <terrygao> it works out of the box
[12:10] <samu2> builder, i think thythmbox and amarok are the most famous ones. i dont think either one really compares either though :)
[12:10] <wicka> SB Live 24-bit
[12:10] <terrygao> hey joe
[12:11] <blanky> sup bob
[12:11] <DShepherd> !tell Kelsey23 about kde
[12:11] <joefish> ! tell joefish about kde
[12:11] <ubotu> joefish: Are you smoking crack?
[12:11] <wicka> doofy: SB Live! 24-bit
[12:11] <terrygao> ubuntu developers made a concious decision to bundle gnome with gnome and some of the configurations will break if you use the kde dm
[12:11] <doofy> wicka, it should work right out of the box. Are you trying to play music or what?
[12:11] <DShepherd> !tell joefish about kde
[12:11] <joefish> terrygao: what works out of the box, you mean kde on kubuntu?
[12:11] <ramza3> anybody know how the roller service is setup for ubuntu
[12:11] <terrygao> yeah
[12:12] <DShepherd> joefish: no space between ! and joefish
[12:12] <wicka> doofy: Well yes, but my main goal is to get the system sounds and Gaim sound effects to work.
[12:12] <wicka> And that is the problem, it NEVER works out of the box.
[12:12] <wicka> EVER.
[12:12] <ramza3> terrygao: is there a /etc/roller.d directory
[12:12] <blanky> #gnome is asleep, so I hope you guys know :) , How can I make the icons on my desktop smaller? not individually (stretch) but all of them
[12:12] <doofy> Kelsey23, if your trying to install KDE with Ubuntu check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29
[12:12] <InitMass> which is the best way to get mplayer into Breezy? my gxine dies very often when trying to play wmv files from nautilus. but when opening with gxine from terminal it works just fine. even the same .wvm file works sometimes and sometimes not
[12:12] <wicka> I've used at least 3-4 different distros, with two different sound cards and two different onboard chips, and sound has never worked.,
[12:12] <blanky> wicka: it doesnt right now?
[12:13] <wicka> Not at all.
[12:13] <blanky> what's the name of your sound card
[12:13] <wicka> Soundblaster Live 24-bit
[12:13] <doofy> Kelsey23, did you check that link?
[12:13] <wicka> In fact, I would go so far as to say I have negative sound.
[12:13] <Sedge> once i've mounted a secondary hard drive.... how do i make it so i can write to it? :P
[12:13] <wicka> That's how bad it is.
[12:13] <blanky> !google soundblaster live 24 ubuntu
[12:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, blanky
[12:13] <doofy> Sedge, what type of partition is it?
[12:13] <topyli> wicka: perhaps your sound card is broken :)
[12:13] <blanky> shutup ubotu
[12:13] <Sedge> primary, ext3
[12:13] <wicka> It works in Windows.
[12:14] <samu2> would be really nice if people didnt have to worry about kde vs gnome
[12:14] <fredforfaen> !dvd
[12:14] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:14] <blanky> of course it does
[12:14] <joefish> DShepherd ta :)
[12:14] <doofy> Sedge, if its mounted you should be able to write to it
[12:14] <Sedge> hrm
[12:14] <solidgroove> blanky system-prefrences-file management-
[12:14] <DShepherd> joefish: no problem
[12:14] <solidgroove> zoom level for icons
[12:14] <wicka> There aer reasons why people still use Windows; this is one of them.
[12:14] <blanky> for using dvds try automatix, !google ubuntu automatix
[12:14] <blanky> solidgroove, thanks
[12:14] <doofy> Sedge, you can't?
[12:14] <joefish> anyone..... what is the easiest way to transcode _into_ wmv files, is there any package that does it?
[12:14] <Sedge> nope
[12:14] <topyli> samu2: you worry about it? it's not very common you know :)
[12:14] <Sedge> i mounted it to /media/storage
[12:14] <wicka> I tried to install ALSA (again), and it didn't even work.
[12:15] <InitMass> which is the best way to get mplayer into Breezy? my gxine dies very often when trying to play wmv files from nautilus. but when opening with gxine from terminal it works just fine. even the same .wvm file works sometimes and sometimes not
[12:15] <wicka> Gave me some compilier error crap.
[12:15] <doofy> are you trying to write to it as a user or as sudo root?
[12:15] <DShepherd> joefish: why would you want to
[12:15] <DShepherd> ?
[12:15] <Sedge> just as a user
[12:15] <blanky> wicka
[12:15] <Sedge> i want to use it for storage
[12:15] <doofy> Sedge, try it as sudo
[12:15] <Sedge> of whatever files
[12:15] <blanky> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:15] <Sedge> i'm using the gui and trying to just copy / paste
[12:15] <blanky> if you dont want to type all that type
[12:15] <Kelsey23> So I don't want Kubuntu at all, I just want the ability to switch between KDE and Gnome and XFCE, like in a few other distros. Is thid possible in Ubunut?
[12:15] <doofy> Sedge, see if you can cp some files to it using sudo root
[12:15] <blanky> alias aptinst='sudo apt-get install'
[12:15] <blanky> aptinst build-essential
[12:16] <blanky> Kelsey23, you mean switchdesk?
[12:16] <doofy> Kelsey23, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE
[12:16] <joefish> DShepherd - it's actually got good compression... our site www.BallOfDirt.com has video on it, but each one uses its own codecs... so we want to standardize and make the server transcode to a useful format... if it's not wmv then maybe xvid (although that involves installing extra stuff for more users)
[12:16] <wicka> blanky: doing the first one.
[12:16] <wicka> Ah that's done now.
[12:16] <blanky> Kelsey23, you can, just log out and then click sessions and choose yours
[12:16] <blanky> wicka, glad it is
[12:16] <wicka> I think I follow.
[12:16] <wicka> Hold on.
[12:17] <joefish> Kelsey23 - the display manager (kdm or gdm for instance) usually offers you the choice if you have the other desktops installed
[12:17] <Sedge> seems to work that way doofy, but i want to be able to do that from the gui, without having to use the CLI
[12:17] <devint> is there a way to perform a lossless mp3 to ogg conversion
[12:17] <devint> ?
[12:17] <aedes> when I use sudo what pass should I put in? the root?
[12:17] <blanky> Kelsey23, just log out, click sessions, and choose your choice
[12:17] <DShepherd> joefish: ok i dont know if you will find a program that ubuntu has that transcode to wmv,,, try uncle google
[12:17] <blanky> choose your choice, how retarted
[12:17] <blanky> Kelsey23, NO DONT DO IT
[12:17] <wicka> GAH
[12:17] <doofy> Sedge, gotcha alright, just one second
[12:17] <blanky> Kelsey23, if you want to switch desktops, just log out, oh you want something faster?
[12:17] <blanky> log out IS kinda fast...but you want something like switchdesk you say?
[12:17] <joefish> DShepherd - i would prefer to use divx or xvid as a standard, but since the basic user needs to install extra stuff, it's not possible :-/
[12:18] <blanky> Kelsey23, what window managers do you have installed
[12:18] <blanky> Kelsey23, okay, what window managers do you have installed; gnome...
[12:18] <blanky> okay
[12:18] <cryptron> how are the 64bit compatibiliti for amd athlons cpu's
[12:18] <blanky> you're in gnome right now?
[12:18] <pr3vi0uz> just use 3ddesktop thats even faster
[12:18] <joefish> devint - i think by nature mp3 and ogg have subtlely different psycho-acousitc compression algorithms
[12:18] <joefish> devint - the best way would be from very high bitrate mp3 to lower bitrate ogg... or better still from wav
[12:19] <blanky> Kelsey23, do you know if you're running GDM for login?
[12:19] <wicka> ALSA is still not compiling.
[12:19] <blanky> Kelsey23, I want you to do this: log out, then click sessions and select gnome, that should switch you to gnome
[12:19] <dhashen> hi-have a wierd problem where cannot load back into ubuntu after dual boot to xp
[12:19] <mymayer> sladen: so i want usefull one, not only consol hacking. Syntax highlighting, completition and stuff
[12:19] <blanky> if it doesn't/does work, come back and let me know
[12:19] <doofy> Sedge, what directory did you say you had it mounted to?
[12:19] <Vlad1> cryptron- I'm useing a 64-bit processor and it works great!
[12:19] <Sedge> i mounted it to /media/storage
[12:19] <tritium> devint, there is no lossless mp3 to ogg conversion at all
[12:19] <blanky> Kelsey23, you do know what KDE is right? I thought you said you didn't want KDE
[12:20] <devint> damn
[12:20] <wicka> Vlad1, you're using x86-64 and it's all working fine?
[12:20] <blanky> you just wanted to switch window managers by logging out
[12:20] <Vlad1> yes
[12:20] <tritium> lossy -> lossy conversion just gets worse
[12:20] <Sedge> it shows up on the desktop by mounting things in /media i believe
[12:20] <blanky> Kelsey23, okay so I dont quite understand what you want
[12:20] <wicka> I am too and it works, but I have no sound.
[12:20] <infamus> anyone here know how to properly install wine?
[12:20] <blanky> okay, so what do you want
[12:20] <wicka> I can't install what Ubuntu refers to as "the codecs" because they are only available as i386.
[12:20] <blanky> infamus: sudo apt-get install wine ; winecfg
[12:20] <Vlad1> wicka- thats usually a sound card issue
[12:20] <joefish> infamus - get crossover office :)
[12:20] <doofy> Sedge, sudo chmod 777 /media/storage
[12:21] <blanky> infamus, that costs money (do they have cvs?)
[12:21] <joefish> infamus - i spotted it on gnutella recently, if you're too tight to pay the starving geniuses ;)
[12:21] <Vlad1> wicka- do you have a sound card or is your sound on the mother board
[12:21] <RaydenUni> is there an ubuntu install guide?
[12:21] <Sedge> ok doofy
[12:21] <blanky> Kelsey23, okay that's easy
[12:21] <doofy> Sedge, that will give full permissions to everyone on that directory
[12:21] <wicka> Vlad1: sound card.
[12:21] <doofy> Sedge, then you should be good
[12:21] <Sedge> aight
[12:21] <Sedge> thx doofy
[12:21] <wicka> I tried it with my mobo sound, it didn't work either.,
[12:21] <blanky> Kelsey23, go into gnome, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then while it's installing a window will come up asking you which you want to use
[12:21] <doofy> Sedge, No problem. If you have any other problems feel free to ask :)
[12:21] <blanky> just select GDM like I did :D
[12:21] <Sedge> thanks ;)
[12:21] <joefish> infamus, if you're really stuck i might be able to help... joe@penski.net
[12:21] <Vlad1> wicka- the soundcard maynot be compatible with linux, usually when it doesint work, there is no Linux driver for it installed....
[12:22] <Sedge> just trying to get used to how linux (and unix i guess) deal with these sorts of issues
[12:22] <blanky> hey how do you do bold text
[12:22] <joefish> infamus - but had a HD failure, so give me a day or two to respond
[12:22] <blanky> bold
[12:22] <Sedge> i dumped windows about 2 weeks ago
[12:22] <blanky> WOW
[12:22] <doofy> Sedge, good choice
[12:22] <Vlad1> yeah
[12:22] <Sedge> so far i've been able to do everything fine in linux
[12:22] <wicka> I dumped Windows 4 and a half hours ago.
[12:22] <blanky> er...ahem
[12:22] <Sedge> albeit with a little learning
[12:22] <wicka> And I have no sound.
[12:22] <Kelsey23> I haven't used Windows in forever :-)
[12:22] <blanky> wicka: dont worry, we'll help
[12:22] <blanky> name of sound card again?
[12:22] <Sedge> only thing i've run into is my WoW performance is kinda shoddy compared to windows
[12:22] <dhashen> can anyone help with boot problem?
[12:22] <wicka> Soundblaster Live 24-bit
[12:22] <Kelsey23> *nix is what I like :-)
[12:22] <lightbright> blanky: hello :)
[12:22] <Sedge> but i do have an ATI video card
[12:22] <RaydenUni> the partition screen doesn't make sesne, what is "Configure the Logical Volume Manager?"
[12:22] <Vlad1> wicka- does your motherboard have onboard sound?
[12:22] <wicka> Yeah
[12:23] <blanky> sup lightbright, I got it to work :P
[12:23] <lightbright> im back, who missed me? :)
[12:23] <joefish> Sedge: what's the main difficulty encountered so far?
[12:23] <doofy> Sedge, you shold learn quickly. One of the big things in linux is file permissions (thats what you just changed) if you want to read up a little bit on it read http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html
[12:23] <DShepherd> Kelsey23: really wel you havent missed much :-D
[12:23] <wicka> It seems like the last four times I tried Linux people were douchebags/.
[12:23] <lightbright> blanky: what to work?
[12:23] <InitMass> which is the best way to get mplayer into Breezy? my gxine dies very often when trying to play wmv files from nautilus. but when opening with gxine from terminal it works just fine. even the same .wvm file works sometimes and sometimes not
[12:23] <blanky> dvd playing :D
[12:23] <wicka> Hey I managed to get X working by myself though.
[12:23] <blanky> wicka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[12:23] <Sedge> yeah i understand the file permissions model with the XXX and the sticky bit etc...
[12:23] <Vlad1> wicka- I'm trying to help you!
[12:23] <Sedge> just some basic things like mounting drives.. using fstab etc...
[12:23] <wicka> Yeah I know.
[12:23] <DShepherd> Kelsey23: been the same way for almost 5 years now :-D
[12:23] <wicka> It's weird.
[12:23] <lightbright> blanky: yipee :)  so what was missing?
[12:23] <blanky> wicka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[12:23] <wicka> Nobody ever helped...last year.
[12:23] <blanky> WICKA YOU RETARD
[12:23] <doofy> Sedge, sounds like you've learned a fair amount
[12:23] <Vlad1> wicka- try plugging your speakers into the motherboard sound and see if that works...
[12:23] <awtomlinson> can anyone recommend any good data recovery software?
[12:23] <blanky> wicka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[12:23] <wicka> Guys I'm not talking about you.
[12:24] <blanky> I know dude
[12:24] <wicka> And I am going to that link, thank you.
[12:24] <blanky> I'm just telling you the link
[12:24] <Sedge> ;)
[12:24] <blanky> no problem, let me know what happens
[12:24] <Sedge> last time i used linux was about 3 years ago, and i picked up a bit then
[12:24] <lightbright> wicka: be nice and ppl are nice to you!  treat people like a fool, and they wont want to help you
[12:24] <doofy> awtomlinson, http://ebcd.pcministry.com/
[12:24] <doofy> check that out
[12:24] <blanky> if you need anymore help MSN blankdev@gmail.com AIM msniswaybetter
[12:24] <Sedge> but ubuntu has been far more user friendly than the mandrake 7.2 i was using back then
[12:24] <lightbright> blanky:  so what was missing?  how did you get the dvd to play?
[12:24] <wicka> I wasn't trying to treat anyone like a fool.
[12:25] <Vlad1> ubuntu has been the most user friendly distro I have EVER used.....
[12:25] <Qalimas> Is it possible to have Xubuntu's (Xfce) windows flash in the taskbar?
[12:25] <wicka> I am also eating applesauce, that slows down my response time.
[12:25] <doofy> Sedge, you having trouble with your ATI card?
[12:25] <joefish> awtomlinson: from a hard disk crash?
[12:25] <blanky> wicka: if you know spanish, this might be better http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/2747
[12:25] <Sedge> doofy, got 3d working, it's great in native linux games, but in WoW my performance is pretty shoddy using opengl
[12:25] <angel_> anyone of you guys able to complie and run Proximodo... http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124035
[12:25] <doofy> Sedge, yep. Native games rock. Emulation is eh...
[12:25] <blanky> lightbright: I restarted...heh
[12:26] <awtomlinson> joefish, no sure if the hard drive crashed.  i was having xorg issues & would only get a blank screen.  i had to reinstall breezy.  when i mount my /home partition, some of my directories display as an unknown file type with an unknown size
[12:26] <Sedge> i had to recompile wine for a wow fix, but that wasn't so bad
[12:26] <Sedge> it runs super stable
[12:26] <wicka> blanky: I actually took four years of French, but I can't speak that either.
[12:26] <Sedge> just about 50% lower in fps than windows
[12:26] <holycow> *ooooo*
[12:26] <blanky> haha, cool. I'm barely learning french
[12:26] <RaydenUni> when installing ubuntu i am at the "partition discs" page, should i see some partitions already?
[12:26] <lightbright> blanky: so what we did worked, you just needed to restart Ubuntu?
[12:26] <holycow> ff 1.5 uses gnome chooser!
[12:26] <holycow> yey!
[12:26] <wicka> By the way everyone, don't eat apple sauce and use Linux, it's hard.
[12:26] <dhashen> anyone please?
[12:26] <blanky> wicka: just do the bold stuff and replace what you need with your stuff
[12:26] <joefish> awtomlinson: i just had a HD go faulty recently
[12:26] <blanky> dhashen, you're welcome
[12:27] <dhashen> thank you
[12:27] <joefish> awtomlinson: i rescued a bunch of data, creating an image of the partition separately
[12:27] <blanky> joefish: what brand
[12:27] <Qalimas> Is it possible to have Xubuntu's (Xfce) windows flash in the taskbar?
[12:27] <doofy> Sedge, what all have you tried native?
[12:27] <dhashen> down some searching on google etc
[12:27] <blanky> joefish, try and zero it, worked for me
[12:27] <joefish> blanky: ibm thinkstar (thinkpad laptop one)
[12:27] <dhashen> but can't find this fault
[12:27] <awtomlinson> joefish, what software did you use to create the image?
[12:27] <blanky> lightbright: yeah...haha
[12:27] <Sedge> well, i downloaded the demos of Darwinia and Uplink, both great games from what i can see
[12:27] <blanky> o...check their site they should have hard drive utitlities
[12:27] <joefish> awtomlinson: get the package ddrescue
[12:27] <Sedge> would like to get the full versions, but there's some issues with their website
[12:27] <joefish> awtomlinson: i think it's in universe, you know how to?
[12:27] <dhashen> ubuntu boots fine until boot into xp, then ubuntu root partition will not boot on next reboot
[12:27] <lightbright> blanky: lol :)
[12:27] <blanky> try and find an app that can zero your drive joefish
[12:28] <mweichert> all I have to say is ... "wow"
[12:28] <mweichert> this is a great distro guys!
[12:28] <blanky> wicka: hows it goin
[12:28] <infamus> blanky, that didnt work....
[12:28] <Sedge> and i've got UT2k4 and NwN running perfectly
[12:28] <Sedge> with great performance
[12:28] <blanky> yeah, same here sedge, better than with windows...surprisingly
[12:28] <doofy> Sedge, thats awesome
[12:28] <blanky> and I have frickin ATI!
[12:28] <blanky> 9800pro, I think it's cause their drivers are getting better
[12:28] <infamus> blanky: i DLed the wine installer zip file frome winehq.org
[12:28] <joefish> blanky - i might give that a try, but it makes bad noises too :-/
[12:28] <Sedge> yep ATI here too BlankC
[12:28] <awtomlinson> yeah, i know how to install it, but is it terminal or gui?
[12:28] <Sedge> err balnky
[12:28] <blanky> infamus
[12:28] <ardchoille> Anyone know where I can find a how-to on building packages/binaries for Ubuntu 5.10?
[12:28] <Sedge> blanky
[12:28] <Vlad1> whats wrong with ATI?
[12:28] <doofy> blanky, better then with windows?? nice!
[12:28] <blanky> infamus: stop, dont do anything
[12:29] <infamus> blanky: ok
[12:29] <joefish> awtomlinson: i managed to recover all my data :D
[12:29] <blanky> nothing's wrong with ATI, no one ever said there was anything wrong with ATI
[12:29] <wicka> blanky: I finished my apple sauce and I am starting the steps from Ubuntu Forums.
[12:29] <awtomlinson> if its terminal, i need help
[12:29] <Sedge> yeah my ut2k4 and nwn performance are about double in ubuntu than windows
[12:29] <Sedge> historically ATI didn't have decent linux support
[12:29] <Vlad1> I like Nvidia
[12:29] <blanky> ardchoille, what do you mean, compiling apps?
[12:29] <Sedge> although they are getting better
[12:29] <joefish> awtomlinson: the software is called dd_rescue and there is a good helper problem here http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html
[12:29] <ardchoille> blanky: no, making .deb's
[12:29] <blanky> wicka: okay, if anything goes wrong read the replies, they should fix anything
[12:29] <mweichert> hey buys, I'm trying to setup a ltsp server over here. I'm just curious - what does ltsp-build-client actually do? I see it's downloading packages.
[12:29] <blanky> ardchoille, ah, developer here are we :P I'm not sure bud, sorry, I'm sure the deb command can do it
[12:30] <blanky> infamus hold on bud
[12:30] <blanky> let me get you help
[12:30] <blanky> er, why the heck does windows have wine for it
[12:30] <mweichert> *guys :)
[12:30] <joefish> awtomlinson: once you have extracted the data from e.g. /dev/hda2 to a file (on another drive of course!) you can then mount that as a loop and do stuff like fsck it
[12:30] <ardchoille> blanky: not really a dev, but I like to learn as much as I can about the distro I run
[12:30] <foxgamer> Hi all. How can I tell what my ethernet card is?
[12:31] <infamus> blanky: lol, ok, im hangin
[12:31] <Sedge> doofy, chmod 777 /media/storage didn't work for me
[12:31] <Vlad1> blanky- those are windows dll's not wine for windows
[12:31] <blanky> ardchoille, ah, let me get you alink
[12:31] <Sedge> still can't cut / paste within the gui
[12:31] <DShepherd> joefish: what did you use to recover your data?
[12:31] <blanky> infamus: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[12:31] <blanky> follow those instructions
[12:31] <sethk> foxgamer, lspci will probably show it
[12:31] <mweichert> foxgamer: lspci
[12:31] <blanky> infamus: you ARE running ubuntu right? I mean, cause the zip on taht site is for windows...
[12:31] <Vlad1> blanky- i never got that to work for wine
[12:31] <awtomlinson> i'm kinda lost.  anything with a gui?
[12:31] <foxgamer> It doesn't show anything along those lines.
[12:31] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: still  no luck.
[12:31] <infamus> blanky: yeah im running ubuntu
[12:32] <doofy> Sedge, sudo chmod 777 /media/storage
[12:32] <lightbright> blanky: so what did we learn?  to REBOOT :)
[12:32] <Sedge> yeah i did sudo
[12:32] <doofy> sudo is key on that one :P
[12:32] <blanky> Vlad1, er, what?
[12:32] <doofy> Sedge, hmm
[12:32] <GMachine_24> web: that's ........too bad
[12:32] <Sedge> still no luck
[12:32] <blanky> Vlad1, what didnt you get to work bud?
[12:32] <doofy> Sedge, you said that it is ext3?
[12:32] <nightvis1on> sup guys
[12:32] <blanky> lightbright, yeah haha
[12:32] <Sedge> yup
[12:32] <blanky> sup nightvis1on
[12:32] <Sedge> that's what i formatted it as
[12:32] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: running the setup produces a semi-legible screen, which I can navigate, but I think part of the problem is it can't tell I have an LCD.
[12:32] <nightvis1on> I am having trouble setting up my wifi network
[12:32] <Vlad1> blanky- I followed what it says on wine's website, it still doesint work...
[12:32] <Sedge> not sure what the differences in the filesystems were
[12:32] <RaydenUni> i need installation help, when installing and trying to partition. at the page where it says "[!!]  Partition disks" should i see some partitions on there?
[12:32] <nightvis1on> anyone set up wifi before?
[12:32] <lightbright> blanky: :)
[12:32] <dhashen> blanky:can you help?
[12:33] <blanky> dhashen, what's your prob bud?
[12:33] <GMachine_24> web: so "x" starts?
[12:33] <doofy> Sedge, you've got me stumped :( ask again someone else may know
[12:33] <wicka> blanky: "You don't have the compiler that your kernel was built with installed" error
[12:33] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: the setup screens have odd non-latin chars as borders all around.
[12:33] <dhashen> ubuntu will not boot back up after booting into winbugs
[12:33] <aedes> I'm using 5.10, and when I type in the root pass for "sudo ls" (a test) and it doesn't accept it, but if I type in the pass for the current user it just quits without running the program and any further attempts to use sudo exit before asking a pass until I terminate the session
[12:33] <blanky> Vlad1,  so you followed the instructions on http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb but it didnt work?
[12:33] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: no.
[12:33] <Vlad1> blanky- yep
[12:33] <aedes> has anyone else experienced this problem?
[12:33] <Sedge> doofy, not a big deal i guess, command line is often faster for moving stuff around... it'd just be nice to know
[12:33] <sklav> which filesystems sedge?
[12:33] <lightbright> Vlad1: maybe you didnt
[12:33] <blanky> hold on Vlad1 are you registere? /query blanky
[12:33] <GMachine_24> web: well it does sound like a graphics problem . . .
[12:33] <doofy> Sedge, I agree
[12:34] <WebMaven> GMachine_24:  on startup, the machine tells me that GDM can't start X.
[12:34] <GMachine_24> web: right
[12:34] <blanky> anyone who has probs and wants help, register yourself and /query blanky
[12:34] <Sedge> sklav, my secondary SATA drive is formatted with ext3, mounted to /media/storage, i can't copy / paste from within the gui
[12:34] <blanky> cause I cant talk to you all at once like this
[12:34] <Vlad1> never mind
[12:34] <blanky> Vlad1,
[12:34] <dhashen> dual boot setup - reboots fine until boot into winbugs and then won't load root partition
[12:34] <_jason> aedes, sudo should use the current password
[12:34] <wicka> blanky: I'm reading the replies but there are like 7 pages.
[12:34] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: Not sure how to proceed.
[12:34] <Vlad1> blanky- what?
[12:34] <blanky> what was your problem bud? you couldnt find the wine package? or it did install
[12:34] <lightbright> Vlad1: user error
[12:34] <blanky> wicka yeah hold on bud
[12:34] <nightvis1on> I cant get my iwconfig to reckgnize my wireless network
[12:34] <Vlad1> NEVER MIND
[12:34] <blanky> Vlad1, you said you couldnt get wine to work
[12:35] <dhashen> google and forums show the opposite happening so I don't know how to approach this
[12:35] <blanky> dhashen, so you cant boot into ubuntu?
[12:35] <dhashen> yeah
[12:35] <blanky> when you start your computer it's only windows
[12:35] <blanky> hold on man
[12:35] <joefish> what is Plan B?
[12:35] <nightvis1on> grub's not working
[12:35] <dhashen> looks like winbugs does something to grub
[12:35] <dhashen> but i don't know what
[12:35] <martin__> hi
[12:36] <blanky> dhashen, hold on man
[12:36] <dhashen> ok
[12:36] <DShepherd> hi
[12:36] <aedes> _jason, ok, and I guess its then caching that I've entered a corrent pass, but it doesn't run the app
[12:36] <martin__> i
[12:36] <martin__> i've got some questions can anyone help?
[12:36] <_jason> aedes, what apps have you tried
[12:36] <joefish> martin__: go ahead
[12:36] <nalioth> martin__: only if you ask them
[12:36] <wicka> blanky: nm I think I found a fix
[12:36] <nightvis1on> I cannot dual boot my windows now that I have installed ubuntu even though they were seperate partitions and it is displayed as a bootable partition at start by grub
[12:37] <nightvis1on> its gay
[12:37] <joefish> martin__: around here you just butt in with your question ;)
[12:37] <blanky> wicka: glad you did bud
[12:37] <aedes> _jason, right now I'm tryiong: sudo update-manager
[12:37] <nightvis1on> It says there was a problem configuring my disks
[12:37] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: Further suggestions?
[12:37] <tritium> nightvis1on, that's not a nice choice of an adjective
[12:37] <foxgamer> lspci doesn't show me any ethernet information, but using ifconfig shows that eth0 and lo are set up
[12:37] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, what version of MS-Windows?
[12:37] <blanky> dhashen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:37] <martin__> mkay, I'm using a laptop and the first day after installing Ubuntu 5.10 i had the power meter on my panel
[12:37] <nightvis1on> sry tritium
[12:37] <lightbright> martin__: no need to ask if you can ask :P
[12:37] <nightvis1on> WindowsXP
[12:37] <GMachine_24> web: not really
[12:37] <topyli> dhashen: grub works? can does it try to boot linux?
[12:37] <lightbright> martin__: just ask
[12:37] <blanky> dhashen, read that man, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:37] <tritium> nightvis1on, no worries
[12:38] <_jason> aedes, no errors, just a new command line?
[12:38] <blanky> wicka did you get it to work?
[12:38] <nightvis1on> aight
[12:38] <lightbright> DShepherd: do you still see clock on ubuntu boot?
[12:38] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, yeah, XP is pretty gay :) What does the grub menu.lst say wrt the XP install?
[12:38] <blanky> vlad1 you there
[12:38] <martin__> but i accidentaly installed a different one, i think for ACPI support, and it all went away
[12:38] <aedes> _jason, correct
[12:38] <Sedge> is dma enabled by default for devices in ubuntu?
[12:38] <GMachine_24> web: if you have a live install disk of breezy you can try that just to see if there is(are) some conflict(s) -- otherwise, I'd say search and post in the ubuntu forums.
[12:38] <DShepherd> lightbright: yeah.. I have tried the fix :)
[12:38] <nightvis1on> "wrt"?
[12:38] <Hyper7> G'day  -  whats the diff between the install and the live iso's ?
[12:38] <GMachine_24> web: if you've had this problem others no doubt have , too
[12:38] <nightvis1on> I installed Ubuntu after window
[12:38] <KumaSan> Sedge, was for me, on Breezy and Dapper
[12:38] <wicka> blanky: still making the pkg
[12:38] <nightvis1on> *windows
[12:38] <lightbright> DShepherd: did it work?
[12:38] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, wrt, with regard to,
[12:38] <Sedge> KumaSan, how can i check
[12:38] <wicka> Well I got past that one problem, yeah.
[12:38] <infamus> blanky: i follow the instructions up to opening the synaptic manager then clickong settings->repositories but the option to add a repositroty  in custom isnt there
[12:38] <blanky> wicka: you still following the instructiosn or what?
[12:38] <nightvis1on> ahh
[12:38] <DShepherd> lightbright: I just ctrl+c when I cant wati
[12:39] <KumaSan> Sedge, sudo hdparm /dev/hda (or whatever drive)
[12:39] <WebMaven> ok, I'll try the live disk.
[12:39] <dhashen> blanky:thank you! will have a look - can you explain why this happens?
[12:39] <_jason> aedes, strange, is it only with gnome apps? can you do "sudo nano"?
[12:39] <blanky> infamus: you're runninb breezy 5.10?
[12:39] <lightbright> DShepherd: so you still see synchronizing clock?
[12:39] <DShepherd> yup.....
[12:39] <blanky> because you installed windows after ubuntu...or wait, did you?
[12:39] <blanky> I'm not sure man
[12:39] <blanky> lol
[12:39] <dhashen> no
[12:39] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: It says something about read the manual about configuring disks
[12:39] <martin__> there's no icon left in the taskbar, but the power stays on when I'm on battery, but I'd like to know how much power I have left
[12:39] <blanky> dhashen, you better have a livecd with you man
[12:39] <DShepherd> I didnt try the fix though..
[12:39] <dhashen> installed breezy over winbugs
[12:39] <blanky> infamus: you're runninb breezy 5.10?
[12:39] <dhashen> yeah got that
[12:39] <GMachine_24> web: usually there is some fairly straightforward fix . . . you just have to find it.
[12:39] <Sedge> KumaSan, what should the output from that hdparm command be?
[12:39] <Sedge> something regarding dma?
[12:40] <blanky> infamus: hey dudeyou there...
[12:40] <blanky> I have to go...so hurry up
[12:40] <jonathon> hello every time i open mplayer and play a file i get an error about "New_Face failed."
[12:40] <infamus> blanky: yeah, im runnin 5.10
[12:40] <blanky> click settings -> repositotires
[12:40] <aedes> _jason, hmm, actually using strace it seems that the program to execute must be setuid root
[12:40] <Sedge> !dma
[12:40] <infamus> blanky im going to to install throught the terminal
[12:40] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, there should be an entry, something like title           Windows 95/98/Me
[12:40] <KumaSan> root            (hd0,0)
[12:40] <KumaSan> savedefault
[12:40] <KumaSan> chainloader     +1
[12:40] <KumaSan>  only with XP
[12:40] <lightbright> DShepherd: so you still see synchronizing clock at boot time?
[12:41] <martin__> well actually can someone just tell me the command to start the power manager and I"ll put it in startup
[12:41] <blanky> infamus: then click settings and check 'show disabled repositories'
[12:41] <blanky> infamus: no dude
[12:41] <RaydenUni> wtf
[12:41] <blanky> infamus: wait
[12:41] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: and where is that file located?
[12:41] <blanky> !pastebin
[12:41] <DShepherd> lightbright: yes. I didnt try the fix you gave me last time
[12:41] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:41] <RaydenUni> ubuntu recognizes all 3 partitions with this ide plugged in, but when its only the sata it doesn't see any
[12:41] <blanky> infamus: are you there
[12:41] <aedes> _jason, and its any program
[12:41] <blanky> infamus I need you to respond man
[12:41] <KumaSan> Sedge,  there should be a listiting of parameters, one of wich is  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[12:41] <KumaSan>  if dma is enabled
[12:41] <lightbright> DShepherd: you told me you typed it :P
[12:41] <sklav> hey someone mentionned that kernel gets updated automatically threw apt-get
[12:41] <sklav> that is not correct
[12:41] <_jason> aedes, hmm don't know, maybe someone else can help
[12:42] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:42] <Sedge> KumaSan, yeah i don't have that particular line
[12:42] <sklav> that is 2 times clean install i dont get the latest kernel after an update
[12:42] <definity> hi
[12:42] <nightvis1on> Kumasan:thx, ill check it out
[12:42] <DShepherd> lightbright: i did? you sure? well I didnt :)
[12:42] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: now what should i change the file to read?
[12:42] <KumaSan> Sedge,  not at all? odd, is it an ide drive?
[12:42] <definity> any one know where i can find some good tutorials for linux?
[12:42] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: Im assuming what you posted earlier is what I change it to>?
[12:43] <aedes> _jason, also what's weird is that in the strace sudo is writing to stderr, but I don't see anything
[12:43] <Sedge> SATA
[12:43] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, ise there an entry for a windows install, similar to the one I posted?
[12:43] <nightvis1on> i will check
[12:43] <nightvis1on> two secs
[12:43] <sklav> so what is the proper method to get the kernel to update when running an apt-get upgrade
[12:43] <Sedge> KumaSan, i have 2 of them, 160gig Samsung SATA drives
[12:43] <wicka> blanky: what was that link again?
[12:43] <blanky> er, give me your sound card name again
[12:43] <wicka> soundblaster live 24-bit
[12:43] <blanky> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[12:43] <lightbright> When I type apt-get upgrade, why does it say: The following packages have been kept back:
[12:43] <lightbright>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:43] <lightbright>  ?
[12:43] <martin__> wow I just helped myself, that's funny
[12:44] <wicka> Thanks
[12:44] <martin__> i've got it
[12:44] <blanky> martin__, good job man, not eveyrone has friends
[12:44] <infamus> blanky: dont worry, i installed through the terminal and everythinng went smoothly
[12:44] <lightbright> martin__: well done! :)
[12:44] <blanky> infamus: glad it did
[12:44] <phasegen> anyone know of any good programs for converting wma to mp3?
[12:44] <definity> anyoen knw where i can get somne good tutorials
[12:44] <KumaSan> Sedge, I think sata drives are handled as SCSI, and not ide, thus no hdparm stuff. It should be handled directly by the driver, out of my experience there, I don't have any sata drives. sorry
[12:44] <lightbright> can someone please tell me WHY when I type apt-get upgrade, why does it say: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 ?
[12:44] <Sedge> KumaSan, ok, thx
[12:44] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: yes
[12:44] <Sedge> just seems the system bogs a bit if i'm doing a large copy and then opening apps etc..
[12:45] <djm62> lightbright: because something they depend upon can't be upgraded?
[12:45] <GMachine_24> web: are you still here?
[12:45] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: I just opened that file and at the bottom there is a similar setup
[12:45] <KumaSan> lightbright, something is holding them back, probably an update to some required package that isn't complete yet.
[12:45] <lightbright> djm62: im asking you :)
[12:45] <lightbright> KumaSan: Update manager wants to download them
[12:45] <KumaSan> nightvis1on,  does the setup point to the right partition for the windows install?
[12:45] <djm62> lightbright: if you're asking me what it is, I couldn't tell you
[12:45] <lightbright> KumaSan: whats the fix?
[12:45] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: yes.
[12:45] <infamus> blanky: im stupid, what did you want me to do again? my way didnt work
[12:46] <lightbright> djm62: ok
[12:46] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: yes Im sure its correct
[12:46] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: it looks like the live CD boots fine.
[12:46] <blanky> infamus: how do you know it didn't work
[12:46] <nightvis1on> wait
[12:46] <GMachine_24> web: read this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94864&highlight=GDM
[12:46] <blanky> did you type wine?
[12:46] <KumaSan> lightbright,  you can either do a dist upgrade, which will clean up most of that, or wait until it's updated in the manager,
[12:46] <nightvis1on> yill check
[12:46] <sklav> weird my system wotn upgrade kernel period
[12:46] <pppoe_dude> can i edit /etc/firestarter/inbound/forward to include a line like Unknown, 10000-60000, 192.168.0.121, 10000-60000,
[12:46] <GMachine_24> to make sure you have a virtual link from gdm to x
[12:46] <sklav> i have to manually select them
[12:46] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, where does the XP boot bomb out?
[12:46] <blanky> infamus if you want help listen to me
[12:46] <blanky> and respond when I talk to you
[12:46] <blanky> go into synaptic
[12:46] <pppoe_dude> (as in ports 10000-60000 are to be forwarded)
[12:47] <blanky> settings > repositotires
[12:47] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: im afraid i dont understand your question
[12:47] <blanky> *repositories
[12:47] <Astxist> eww that's alot of ports :
[12:47] <KumaSan> lightbright, the restricted modules are for things like nvidia binary drivers, and wireless firmware. If you don't need/use them, you can ignore it for now.
[12:47] <lightbright> KumaSan: dist upgrade? but im using 5,10
[12:47] <blanky> click settings, check Show disabled software resources
[12:47] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, you say that XP won't boot? at what stage does it fail?
[12:47] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: could you please rephrase your question
[12:47] <martin__>  okay that's all fixed, now I'm just curious about a good wifi manager to scan for APs and tell me the signal strength and such, and I want one better than the built in one
[12:47] <xored> what do i need for emacs, to do some latex ?
[12:47] <blanky> then click okay, then click add on the software repositories window, and click the custom button
[12:47] <sajfer> hello. my comp freezes at "starting periodic command scheduler" but i can login via ssh. how do i change it or remove it from the startup?
[12:47] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, maybe less ports, but can i do that? like put a range? coz in the gui it doesnt let me
[12:48] <topyli> sklav: install a metapackage like linux-image-<arch> and it will always depend on the latest kernel
[12:48] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, but later on, after i edit the line, firestarter starts normally..
[12:48] <lightbright> KumaSan: is apt-get upgrade different from apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:48] <lightbright> ?
[12:48] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: OK, thanks.
[12:48] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, what prog are you using?
[12:48] <sklav> thanlks topyli
[12:48] <KumaSan> lightbright, dist upgrade does a bit more than upgrade, it's not just for upgrading from one release of the distro to another, it can clear up other things also
[12:48] <sklav> that is what i wanted to know
[12:48] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, you said that XP failed to boot, right?
[12:48] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, firestarter
[12:48] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, that needs all those ports that is
[12:48] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: live cd boot completes, GUI starts up as it should.
[12:48] <nightvis1on> correct
[12:48] <sklav> any reason that is not done by default?
[12:48] <lightbright> KumaSan: should I do a  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:48] <lightbright> ?
[12:48] <fredforfaen> !dma
[12:48] <lightbright> KumaSan: should I do a  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade weekly on Breezy?
[12:48] <phasegen> anyone know of any good programs for converting wma to mp3?
[12:48] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, but firestarter is a firewall?
[12:48] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, bittornado, doesnt need that many perse
[12:49] <Hobbsee> Astxist: firestarter is a firewall, yes
[12:49] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, it only really needs one
[12:49] <infamus> blanky: alright, im listening, im just a headstrong linux n00b thats all
[12:49] <fredforfaen> !dma
[12:49] <RaydenUni> i have a 10gb drive i'm going to install ubuntu on, should it be LVM?
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> not sttriclty
[12:49] <C_J_Pro> I should get a booth down at Canal Days this year and put Ubuntu on display
[12:49] <C_J_Pro> lol
[12:49] <KumaSan> lightbright, yes, dist-upgrade is different, it will pull in other packages, and change things that a simple upgrade won't, if you run it and look at the things it wants to change, then you might clear up the hold on restricted modules
[12:49] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, they do that to make blocking hard and avoid other things using ports
[12:49] <lightbright> KumaSan: whats difference between apt-get -u dist-upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:49] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: As soon as I accept the selection it takes me to screen saying that "I should read about configuring my windows disks"
[12:49] <blanky> infamus: I already typed everything...scroll up
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> the iptables/netfilter system is the firewall
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> firestarter is a front end to that
[12:49] <topyli> lightbright: upgrade will hold packages that would require extra dependencies (new packages) to be installed. dist-upgrade will simply install them
[12:49] <_jason> how can I open mutliple instances of totem?
[12:49] <KumaSan> lightbright, update-manager handles it normally, no need to do it weekly
[12:50] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, you can configure the range for bittornado make a smaller one you don't need one that large
[12:50] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, ok... i guess i can just narrow its range to 10 ports
[12:50] <lightbright> KumaSan: so its safe to do a apt-get update and upgrade and dist-upgrade daily without breaking 5.10 breezy?
[12:50] <djk_> where can i find libqt3c102-mt ?
[12:50] <HrdwrBoB> _jason: I'm not sure if you can
[12:50] <lightbright> topyli: ok
[12:50] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, can't help with that I am afraid, I don't do windows.
[12:50] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, nevertheless though, can i put a port range for firestarter?
[12:50] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, :)
[12:50] <sklav> i would use dist-upgrade on major chamges
[12:50] <Sedge> anyone else have any experience on using SATA drives with ubuntu and slow performance on writes / reads?
[12:50] <lightbright> topyli:  so its safe to do a apt-get update and upgrade and dist-upgrade daily without breaking 5.10 breezy?
[12:50] <sklav> like lib changes example glibc and so on
[12:50] <pppoe_dude> HrdwrBoB, I am aware of that
[12:50] <KumaSan> lightbright,  I wouldn't do a dist-upgrade weekly, unless you know what's happening.
[12:51] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, or i guess i can make 10 seperate entries... k thanks
[12:51] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: I think its that little section of code that you printed out earlier that i need to properly configure
[12:51] <lightbright> KumaSan: so just a update and upgrade daily?
[12:51] <KumaSan> lightbright, updates are fine, upgrades, but dist-upgrade can change some things.
[12:51] <KumaSan> lightbright, yes
[12:51] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, well I can seem to use a range without it complaining
[12:51] <_jason> HrdwrBoB, hrmm ok, I'll stick with mplayer then. Thanks
[12:51] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: I just need some guidance what to put where im afraid
[12:51] <Sedge> KumaSan, what does sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda1 give you for performance numbers?
[12:51] <Astxist> pppoe_dude, I'll check it for you just a sec
[12:51] <topyli> lightbright: normally you just upgrade when you're using a stable version. daily dist-upgrades are only needed on, say, debian sid
[12:51] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, the only windows system I have here, was 98, and breezy did it fine automatically, but I have it on a seperate HD than the breezy install is.
[12:51] <martin__> so anyone know of a good wifi scanner?
[12:52] <lightbright> KumaSan: but the Update Manager wants to do a dist-upgrade all the time! isnt this bad then by default?
[12:52] <Sedge> i'm getting 1562mb/sec on cached reads and 54mb/s on buffered disk reads
[12:52] <xored> iam getting that after i install zshrc :
[12:52] <xored> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:52] <xored>         LANGUAGE = "de",
[12:52] <xored>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:52] <xored>         LANG = "de_DE@euro"
[12:52] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, are your XP and Breezy installs on diff hard drives?
[12:52] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: Have you ever worked with wifi on ubuntu?
[12:52] <lightbright> topyli: if thats the case, WHY then does the Update Manager wants to do a dist-upgrade all the time! isnt this bad then by default?
[12:52] <nightvis1on> no they arent
[12:52] <tritium> please no pastes, xored
[12:52] <wicka> So now I have sound, but it is choppy and of bad quality.
[12:52] <lightbright> topyli: new users would simply upgrade using update manager
[12:52] <KumaSan> lightbright, dunno, I just click the little icon, and let it go it's merry way :)
[12:52] <blanky> !tell xored about pastebin
[12:52] <topyli> lightbright: upgrade manager doesn't do that
[12:52] <xored> tritium: ok, sroyy
[12:52] <tritium> :)
[12:52] <xored> sorry
[12:52] <lightbright> KumaSan: well that does a dist-upgrade
[12:53] <lovethepirk> i am going to be a ubunto newbie :)
[12:53] <wicka> I get this error when I do the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[12:53] <lightbright> topyli:  yes it does
[12:53] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, I use it, It wasn't much work for me, my card was supported
[12:53] <lovethepirk> why is the install cd only 650mb
[12:53] <KumaSan> lightbright, ok
[12:53] <mweichert> I think I've found a bug with Ubuntu's client build of LTSP! :-S
[12:53] <blanky> wicka: got sound yet bud?
[12:53] <wicka> Pretty much.
[12:53] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: okay...at least you have a working copy
[12:53] <xored> tritium: can you maybe help me ?
[12:53] <blanky> wicka: :) :) :)
[12:53] <lightbright> topyli: believe me!   Update manager shows stuff to install that ONLY a dist-upgrade would through CLI
[12:53] <lovethepirk> most netinst cds are 100mb and the full one is 1 gig, isn't that true?
[12:53] <martin__> g2g
[12:53] <wicka> I have sound, but when I go to the multimedia sound system selector it gives me an error, and the sound is terribly quality.
[12:53] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: If I tell you happens, could you diagnose my problem/
[12:53] <topyli> lightbright: for me, it has often held packages and adviced to use the "advanced" thingy
[12:53] <tritium> xored, did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[12:53] <topyli> has this changed lately?
[12:54] <lightbright> topyli: if I do apt-get upgrade through CLI, it wont install the stuff that Update Manager wants to
[12:54] <KumaSan> lightbright,  depends on settings, IIRC, "smart updates" on update manager, are equiv to dist-upgrade
[12:54] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, maybe, worth a try
[12:54] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: I get starting Gnome Display Manager...      [fail] 
[12:54] <topyli> lightbright: like all the time?
[12:54] <RaydenUni> i have a 10gb drive i'm going to install ubuntu on, should it be LVM?
[12:55] <xored> tritium: its not something with the system. I installed zsh and using it as login shell now. I think iam setting something wrong in the .zshrc
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> Astxist, its ok... i looked it up on google before, there didnt seem to be anything referring to port ranges, so i tried iptables... but now im just gonna use 10 entries to be on the safe side
[12:55] <lightbright> topyli: yes
[12:55] <tritium> xored, possibly.  I've not used zsh
[12:55] <KumaSan> RaydenUni, as a rule, accept the defaults on the install (unless you are trying to save a partition like a currently installed distro or MS install, in which case,r ead carefully) and you'll be fine
[12:55] <sethk> xored, I use zsh.  what is your problem?
[12:55] <lightbright> KumaSan: is it safe to install the latest kernel?
[12:55] <Astxist-A> pppoe_dude, guess you can't
[12:55] <tritium> lightbright, ubuntu package?
[12:55] <RaydenUni> i have a 10gb that i am putting the install on, and an 80gb i don't want to touch right now
[12:56] <wicka> blanky: now it sucks even more because I'm oh so close.
[12:56] <topyli> lightbright: i think KumaSan is onto something. it probably follows synaptic settings
[12:56] <KumaSan> lightbright, you mean the latest packaged kernel? or something from kernel.org?
[12:56] <RaydenUni> actually ubuntu installer was having difficulty reading the sata
[12:56] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: Everything is supported, ubuntu reckognized the card i was using off the start. I went in to Administrative Tools> Networking> then enabled my wlan0 with my appropriate settings. Then i went back to iwconfig and it tells me that there is no signal, though I know there is DEFINETELY a signal from where I am sitting.
[12:56] <claudio> server irc.freenode.net
[12:56] <claudio> server /irc.freenode.net
[12:56] <sethk> xored, zsh is a wonderful shell, but as it is quite complex configuration issues can be subtle
[12:56] <xored> sethk: iam getting a error, wheater my lokalisation is wrong like  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:56] <lightbright> tritium: what?
[12:56] <claudio> server #/irc.freenode.net
[12:56] <tritium> lightbright, the latest kernel you're referring to
[12:56] <sethk> xored, to start with, compare the environment variables in bash and in zsh.  That will probably show it to you.
[12:57] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: I checked ifup, and I dont recieve any packets back
[12:57] <lightbright> KumaSan: Update Manager is showing 4 updates, latest kernel and linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:57] <lightbright> tritium: Update Manager is showing 4 updates, latest kernel and linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:57] <sethk> xored, usually if there is an issue it is that people forget the /etc/zshenv is read, in addition to $HOME/.zshrc.  But of course there are other causes
[12:57] <tritium> do update
[12:57] <RaydenUni> what does "do not use partition" mean?
[12:57] <tritium> RaydenUni, it means ubuntu won't touch that partition for any reason
[12:57] <RaydenUni> or be able to read it?
[12:57] <sethk> xored, do (in both bash and zsh)    export | sort > output.file
[12:57] <sethk> xored, then diff the two output files.
[12:57] <RaydenUni> right now it has that little lightning bolt on a drive i don't want it to touch
[12:57] <tritium> Not without further configuring post-install
[12:57] <xored> sethk: there is nothing in my .bashrc for language settings.
[12:58] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, For me, I insert the card, and the network pops up. but I am running network-manager applet, that might help
[12:58] <xored> sethk:  ok
[12:58] <sethk> xored, that's why I mentioned zshenv.  But remember, it may be something _missing_ from .zshrc
[12:58] <lightbright> am I the only one getting Update Manager to say it wants to install 4 updates, latest kernel and linux-restricted-modules-386 ?
[12:58] <tritium> lightbright, my kerrnel was updated a few days ago
[12:58] <tritium> kernel even
[12:58] <wicka> blanky: one guy said to fix the choppy sound you had to lower the sound buffer, where is that at?
[12:58] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: ahhh, how can I get a hold of that?
[12:58] <lightbright> tritium: how?  through update manager?
[12:58] <tritium> lightbright, yes
[12:58] <sethk> lightbright, I got the kernel update on two systems.
[12:58] <lightbright> tritium: well thats it then
[12:58] <tritium> that's normal, lightbright.  It's there for that reason
[12:59] <lightbright> sethk: ok
[12:59] <RaydenUni> 255mb ext3 /boot and 9.7gb lvm, does that sound about right for a 10 gb drive?
[12:59] <xored> i got it, sethk thank you
[12:59] <tritium> lightbright, you don't want to miss out on security updatees
[12:59] <tritium> updates
[12:59] <skapple> can someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?
[12:59] <xored> can someone tell me what i need for using latext in emacs ?
[12:59] <sethk> xored, not sure I helped, but I'm glad you fixed it.
[12:59] <lightbright> tritium: ok but when I type apt-get upgrade from CLI, it says it will hold them back!  YET update manager wants to install them!   so Update Manager does a dist-upgrade doesnt it?
[12:59] <sklav> 256Megs fro /boot is a bit much
[12:59] <skapple> it says it is a tmpfs, but i already have a device labeled tmpfs
[12:59] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, apt-get install network-manager
[12:59] <sethk> xored, you mean LaTeX?
[12:59] <xored> sethk: yes
[12:59] <tritium> xored, you don't strictly _need_ anything, but auctex and preview-latex are nice additions
[12:59] <nightvis1on> but I dont have internet
[12:59] <lightbright> tritium: im using kernel 686
[01:00] <nightvis1on> so I cant install it
[01:00] <sethk> xored, I think the mode for it is in the standard distribution; I don't remember having to load anything additional into emacs.
[01:00] <tritium> lightbright, right, dist-upgrade
[01:00] <lightbright> tritium: im using kernel 686, and 386 is updated!  should I be using 386 kernel instead then?
[01:00] <xored> tritium: is auctex a addition to emacs or a standalone editor ?
[01:00] <RaydenUni> this scares me
[01:00] <tritium> lightbright, you have both installed, and if you keep both the 386 and 686 kernels, please get both security updates
[01:00] <lightbright> tritium: is it safe to always do a dist-upgrade because KumaSan said its not
[01:00] <topyli> xored: it's an emacs major mode
[01:01] <xored> sethk: tritium : iam a rookiy in latex so it would be nice if the editor would support me as good as possible
[01:01] <tritium> lightbright, if you know what you're doing, yes.
[01:01] <lightbright> tritium: i dont see a 686 kernel update in the Update Manger though!  only the 386
[01:01] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: Could the wierd characters be a locale problem?
[01:01] <KumaSan> lightbright, no, I said it can be an issue, not that it *will* be
[01:01] <tritium> xored, if you like KDE, kile rocks for editing latex
[01:01] <lightbright> KumaSan: hehe ok :P
[01:01] <tritium> lightbright, okay
[01:01] <GMachine_24> web: perhaps but it's not like anything i've heard before.
[01:01] <wicka> Guys, if someone said to lower the sound buffer in the control center, what would they be talking about.
[01:01] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: how am I supposed to apt-get when i dont have internet?
[01:01] <sethk> xored, actually, thinking, I realized that I tried it in slackware, not ubuntu.  Let me see if I can quickly install it.
[01:01] <xored> tritium: does kile works under kubuntu + xfce ?
[01:01] <GMachine_24> if you cannot run x can you run anything else?
[01:02] <lightbright> tritium: do you run the 386 or 686 kernel?
[01:02] <skapple> can someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?
[01:02] <skapple> it says it is a tmpfs, but i already have a device labeled tmpfs
[01:02] <tritium> xored, yes, but you'll have to install some qt libs
[01:02] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, you aren't here on IRC? :)
[01:02] <tritium> (they'll be pulled in as dependencies, xored)
[01:02] <nightvis1on> this is a different computer
[01:02] <topyli> xored: it will work in gnome, but it's a kde app, yes
[01:02] <tritium> lightbright, I run the 686, but still have the 386 installed
[01:02] <KumaSan> nightvis1on,  have you checked to see if network-manager is already installed?
[01:02] <wicka> Guys, if someone said to lower the sound buffer in the control center, what would they be talking about.
[01:02] <xored> tritium:  some is good, 73 MB :)
[01:02] <nightvis1on> um
[01:02] <nightvis1on> no
[01:02] <nightvis1on> Ill check it out
[01:02] <lightbright> tritium: but the update only shows the 386 update!  how come no 686 update?
[01:03] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER treated me with such complete disrespect, foul language, and name calling, that he is banned
[01:03] <sethk> xored, I find a package called "auctex" for using Tex/LaTeX with emacs
[01:03] <wicka> blanky: if someone said to lower the sound buffer in the control center, what would they be talking about.
[01:03] <blanky> call me stupid but I dont see any reason for a home user who wants bleeding edge to try debian anymore, I mean, ubuntu is debian with updates adn stuff
[01:03] <xored> sethk: anyone said use emacs and so on, so thats why ia want a teste :)
[01:03] <tritium> (in a PM)
[01:03] <blanky> control center
[01:03] <blanky> hold on
[01:03] <lightbright> tritium: why do we need to upgrade the 386 kernel if we using 686?
[01:03] <wicka> K
[01:03] <xored> sethk: ok, so its an addtion. Thank you
[01:03] <WebMaven> Yes, but I'm wondering if the wierd rendering of the x setup screens is indicative of another problem.
[01:03] <sethk> xored, I'm installing the package now.  The description sounds like exactly what you want.
[01:03] <tritium> lightbright, I don't recall if both were updated or not...
[01:03] <Xolution> I'm using an Ubuntu Live CD right now, and is there any way I can open my CD drive?
[01:03] <WebMaven> GMachine_24:  Yes, but I'm wondering if the wierd rendering of the x setup screens is indicative of another problem.
[01:03] <lightbright> blanky: hehe I senses a lot of passion in your comment :)
[01:03] <szehne> i don't mean to start a flame war here, but what's the most customizable window manager to go with?
[01:03] <xored> sethk: thank you big times
[01:03] <KumaSan> blanky, debian Sid still has a butt tonne of packages, far more than Ubuntu. If that's what you like.
[01:04] <GMachine_24> web: yeah, it could be somehow on the install the setup was fouled up somehow
[01:04] <blanky> yeah I know, but I mean , I dont know
[01:04] <lightbright> tritium: only the 386 is being offered!  so does that mean our 686 is not upgraded and is vurnerable now?
[01:04] <tritium> xored, auctex is an emacs add-on
[01:04] <KumaSan> szehne, csutomizable in what way? by clicking on themes? or running a compiler over some C? :)
[01:04] <tritium> lightbright, not necessarily.  Perhaps only a fix to the 386 kernel was required
[01:04] <blanky> I just strongly think ubuntu should merge with debian, it's all the goods of debian plus the speed of canonical, we all know how slow debian dev is slow at making releases
[01:04] <xored> i will try them both, kile and auctex
[01:04] <GMachine_24> web: but i'm sort of stumped.
[01:04] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: Well, OK. I guess I'll just blow away the existing install after all, but I'm not happy doing it.
[01:04] <GMachine_24> web: there's no way to do a reinstall?
[01:04] <sethk> xored, takes a while to install, so be patient.
[01:04] <sethk> GMachine_24, sure there is.
[01:04] <nightvis1on> Kumasan: Whats netkit?
[01:05] <Crys_Win> Hi all.
[01:05] <skapple> can someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?
[01:05] <skapple> it says it is a tmpfs, but i already have a device labeled tmpfs
[01:05] <lightbright> tritium: so we are safe to contiue using 686, or in your opinion, its safer and better to use 386 if that is more supported?
[01:05] <szehne> compiler option... i was thinking kde or gnome, but at the same time i'm thinking blackbox or something else
[01:05] <GMachine_24> web: well i meant without her losing a lot of data or something
[01:05] <Crys_Win> I have printer issues. Can anyone help?
[01:05] <KumaSan> blanky,  most of the Ubuntu stuff is folded back into Debian, it's all good.
[01:05] <sklav> blanky ubuntu is to debian as fedora is to redhat enterprise linux
[01:05] <tritium> lightbright, continue to use 686.  You'll be fine
[01:05] <sethk> xored, I always try any available add-ons for emacs, when there is a choice for a particular use.  And of course you have nothing to lose by trying everything available that might help with latex, emacs or not emacs.
[01:05] <lightbright> tritium: ok :)
[01:05] <blanky> KumaSan, yeah I know, especially why they should merge, I mean, there wouldn't be a differnece except for there being more goodness :D
[01:05] <blanky> as opensuse is to suse i bet
[01:05] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: that's not a problem, the user directory is replicated onto my desktop machine.
[01:05] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, apt-cache show netkit :) apt-cache show will give you the info on any package in the repositories
[01:05] <sethk> xored, nothing to lose and everything to gain by experimenting
[01:06] <WebMaven> So, I won't lose data, but this does not bode well for upgrading my desktop.
[01:06] <tritium> xored, sethk I started out using kile, tried auctex & preview-latex with emacs, but eventually just ended up using gedit
[01:06] <mweichert> I have LTSP running great, except - I have no access to local devices, such as the clients cd-rom or sound card
[01:06] <xored> sethk: really glad to have such help. Iam just using latex and all iam trying for my studings
[01:06] <tritium> xored, LaTeX rocks
[01:06] <KumaSan> blanky, no, there are some differences, in philosphy, and in code, although they are fairly minor. But there are a lot of folks who don't like Ubuntu/Canonical, and wouldn't care to work on them.
[01:06] <topyli> xored: don't forget your all-nigt emax session for tweaking it "just so you like it" :)
[01:06] <wicka> So where would I go to lower the sound buffer.
[01:06] <sklav> someone should change the title to the room us.archive.ubuntu.com has been up 2 days now
[01:06] <Crys_Win> I can see my printer, but I can't connect from a remote windows system. Can anyone help?
[01:07] <sklav> hehe
[01:07] <blanky> ah I guess
[01:07] <blanky> wicka: you there man
[01:07] <lightbright> tritium: so 686 is also supported and upgraded as 386 is?
[01:07] <wicka> blanky:yes
[01:07] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: does that make sense?
[01:07] <blanky> hold on, is ubuntu part of the DCCA
[01:07] <sklav> lightbright, 686 and 386 are different kernel
[01:07] <wicka> DCCA?
[01:07] <xored> tritium: , sethk , topyli : iam fresh from windows, but i used linux as secnd system a long time, now as primary. Under windows i used WineEd, it was not bad. But iam glad having all the linux tools now
[01:07] <blanky> not you wicka lol
[01:07] <blanky> hold on man
[01:07] <KumaSan> blanky,  among other things, Debian supports something like 14 architectures, UBuntu focuses on (IIRC) 3
[01:07] <blanky> im trying to figure it out
[01:07] <tritium> lightbright, like I said, there may not have been an update for the 686 kernel (and it might not have been required)
[01:07] <wicka> Yeah I was just wondering.
[01:07] <sklav> they are compiled differently so think of them as different
[01:08] <blanky> yeah KumaSan you're right
[01:08] <tritium> xored, kile is the closest to winedt
[01:08] <KumaSan> BlankC,  no, they aren't part of the DCCA
[01:08] <blanky> wicka: I think it means something about looking in your preferences/administration settings
[01:08] <blanky> I'm trying to look for it thoug
[01:08] <lightbright> tritium: yes but my question is:  do they support and upgrade the 686 as they do with 386?
[01:08] <sklav> apt-get wont update kernel
[01:08] <sklav> but system update will list them
[01:08] <sklav> very interesting
[01:08] <blanky> KumaSan, seriously? bastards, if they try to break lose of debian I'm so gone
[01:08] <xored> tritium: emacs is liek a all in one tool like eclipse or ?
[01:08] <WebMaven> GMachine_24: it's just that if I can't get this to upgrade, and can't get my desktop to upgrade, then although I won't lose *data*, I will lose configuration, if you understand what I mean.
[01:09] <KumaSan> blanky, ?
[01:09] <xored> tritium, sethk : you can just get anything for emacs. like it looks
[01:09] <tritium> xored, yeah, it's an all-in-one and more tool, and I very much dislike it
[01:09] <WebMaven> But, oh well.
[01:09] <sklav> vim is king
[01:09] <tritium> lightbright, yes, in the event of a security problem with the 686 kernel, they'll definitely update it
[01:09] <sklav> ;)
[01:09] <lightbright> tritium: ?
[01:09] <xored> tritium: why ?
[01:09] <blanky> KumaSan, haven't you noticed more people are making things for ubuntu than debian, I mean, er...that didn't come out right: people are starting to write apps more towards ubuntu, and that's why DCCA kicked in, to ensure compatibility
[01:09] <lightbright> tritium: ok thats all I will ask :)
[01:09] <lightbright> tritium: thanks again
[01:09] <sklav> lightbright, they are different packages
[01:10] <blanky> and look at ubuntu, it's not part of it, I'm gonna go post on the forums whe I can
[01:10] <tritium> lightbright, :)
[01:10] <afabian> I wouldn't recommend using emacs as more than a text editor.  Kind of slow and kludgy.  The newsreader gnus built on emacs is top-notch, though.
[01:10] <lightbright> sklav: yes
[01:10] <lightbright> sklav: i understand that
[01:10] <xored> sklav: yes vim is powerfull, iam using it for a month now and every day learing new stuff
[01:10] <skapple> am i supposed to have a device labeled 'none' using /dev as it's directory as a tmpfs?
[01:10] <lightbright> tritium: ok last question about this :) promise ;)  What exactly is the difference between the 386 and 686?
[01:10] <tritium> xored, just personal preference.  Plently of people love it.
[01:11] <sklav> the way they are compiled
[01:11] <KumaSan> blanky, DCCA looks a lot more political to me, which is one reason I haven't cared too much about it. I get enough politics in my life already. Ubuntu is bringing in more stuff, more people, that's good, and Debian benefits directly from that.
[01:11] <sklav> lightbright, its the way they are compiled
[01:11] <tritium> lightbright, they are optimized for different processors
[01:11] <xored> tritium: kile looks like WinEd, and WinEd is commercial..
[01:11] <Sanne> I like to load a module at startup, is it right to put it in /etc/modules?
[01:11] <blanky> Yeah that's cool I just still want the packages to ensure compatibility, that way there's more stuff for everyone
[01:11] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: sorry about that
[01:11] <tritium> xored, but kile is not commercial
[01:11] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: im back now
[01:11] <blanky> instead of having 90 distros based on debian and they all cant be compatible
[01:11] <blanky> if you know what i mean
[01:11] <sklav> and a 686 kernel will not work on a system that only supports 386 compile flags
[01:11] <KumaSan> blanky, the fact that some things come in first for Ubuntu is fine by me, that's what the developers wanted to work on
[01:11] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, no problem
[01:12] <lightbright> tritium: what processors is the 386 optimized for?  im using a Intel 800CPU
[01:12] <xored> tritium: i know, thats what i tried to say. Its much better but not commercial.
[01:12] <lightbright> sklav: why are they compiled differently?
[01:12] <f3ar> you can use 386 with the intel 800
[01:12] <tritium> lightbright, for the Intel 386 ;)
[01:12] <sklav> lightbright, for optimization
[01:12] <KumaSan> blanky, distros fit different users, dsl is debian based, but is aimed at a totally different segment than Linspire or Ubuntu.
[01:12] <GMachine_24> web: i do know what you mean but i reconfigured this comp in no time and it was easier than with warty
[01:12] <tritium> xored, :)
[01:13] <nightvis1on> KumaSan: so I didny find anything to do with what you said
[01:13] <f3ar> is there a quicktime alternative for ubuntu?
[01:13] <tritium> lightbright, the 386 is rather old.  Newer processors have newer features, etc.
[01:13] <sklav> 686 cpu for example has new instruction sets that the 386 doesnt
[01:13] <lightbright> tritium: im using an Intel 800, should I be using 386 or 686 kernel?
[01:13] <lightbright> sklav: im using the 686 kernel atm, but should I?  i got a intel 800
[01:13] <Talisker> is there a package for kernel 2.6.2 and above somewhere?
[01:13] <_jason> f3ar, mplayer plays .mov iirc
[01:13] <xored> tritium: like eclipse :) As all discussing 686. I`ve switched to 686 on my breezy with an AMD64. Is there a problem ?
[01:13] <sklav> example pii is a 386 kernel and P4 686 kernel
[01:13] <sklav> whats intell 800
[01:13] <sklav> is it a p3 800
[01:13] <tritium> xored, well, there are amd-specific kernels you can use
[01:14] <xored> tritium: are there for 64bit only ?
[01:14] <tritium> yes, xored
[01:14] <lightbright> which kernel is optimized for my 800 CPU is what im trying to ask :)
[01:14] <f3ar> _jason, i'm having trouble installing mplayer you think you can help?
[01:14] <xored> tritium: iam not going to use 64bit, as there not enaugh support yet
[01:14] <sklav> is it a p3 cpu
[01:14] <tritium> lightbright, most current machines can use the 686 kernel
[01:14] <sklav> a pentium 3
[01:14] <tritium> xored, not a bad decision
[01:14] <varsendagger> f3ar, what is going on with mplayer?
[01:14] <Talisker> is there a package for kernel 2.6.2 and above somewhere?
[01:14] <lightbright> tritium: is my 800 a 386 or 686 processor?
[01:15] <KumaSan> nightvis1on, not sure If I can help beyond that I am afraid. I haven't had any problems with wifi, but I know that some have. It seems to vary greatly depending on what cards. All I can suggest is to try a couple of liveCDs like Knoppix, and Ubuntu Live, and see if they work, and if so, try and duplicate their settings.
[01:15] <sklav> its a 686
[01:15] <jacques> hey everyone
[01:15] <sklav> your 800mhx p3 is a 686 cpu
[01:15] <tritium> lightbright, 686.  386 was released like in 1992 or so
[01:15] <sethk> xored, I have the mode loaded, it looks ok at first glance
[01:15] <xored> tritium: if you would need to emulate windows for some programms, lets say photoshop or flash or others, what would you use ?
[01:15] <GMachine_24> ok i'm -out-
[01:15] <lightbright> sklav: its not a p3, its the Intel cheap version
[01:15] <xored> sethk: you mean auctex ?
[01:15] <musterm4nn> 386 in 87ish.
[01:15] <KumaSan> lightbright,  686 is a subset of 386,
[01:15] <tritium> xored, personally, I'd probably use wine and winetools from winehq.com
[01:15] <sklav> its still a 686
[01:15] <sklav> its a celeron
[01:15] <sethk> xored, right.  auctex includes latex-mode for emacs
[01:15] <lightbright> KumaSan: a subset?
[01:15] <WebMaven> what is the difference between the options "Erase Entire disk" and "Erase Entire disk and use LVM" ?
[01:15] <sklav> the only difference less cache
[01:16] <xored> sethk:  do i load it in emacs itself ?
[01:16] <sklav> celeron 800MHZ is a trimmed down P3 800
[01:16] <tritium> xored, it will auto-load in eamcs
[01:16] <jacques> I just installed 5.10, never used Linux before, and, am having problems playing mp3s...
[01:16] <lightbright> sklav: yes a Celeron 800 is what I have!  ok, i will keep using the 686 kernel, thanks :)
[01:16] <f3ar> varsendagger, i download the ubuntu package and after that.......i'm going to check right now actually
[01:16] <tritium> emacs, at least when you open a .tex file
[01:16] <sklav> no prob
[01:16] <xored> tritium: what about crossover ?
[01:16] <KumaSan> lightbright, 386 instruction set will run on a 686, but the 686 includes some instructions that won't work on the 386, basic set theory :)
[01:16] <tritium> !tell jacques about mp3
[01:16] <lightbright> sklav: ok ty for your help
[01:16] <Talisker> OK, is there a good guide for upgrading ubuntu to 2.6.2?
[01:16] <xored> tritium: sethk big thanky guys
[01:16] <sklav> np
[01:16] <varsendagger> f3ar, you shold just use synaptic
[01:16] <lightbright> KumaSan: ok :)
[01:17] <sethk> xored, np, hope it helped at least a bit.
[01:17] <xored> sethk: sure
[01:17] <tritium> KumaSan, then you had your subset comment backwards ;)
[01:17] <f3ar> varsendagger, synaptic won't work
[01:17] <KumaSan> Talisker, the std kernel for Breezy is 2.6.12 IIRC, 2.6.2 is quite old, is this a hand rolled one?
[01:17] <lightbright> sklav: so I should get better performance using the 686 kernel, so i will keep using that then
[01:17] <xored> se no its time to set up wine
[01:17] <sklav> yes lightbright
[01:17] <sklav> that is what i want
[01:17] <tritium> good choice, lightbright
[01:17] <lightbright> sklav: :)
[01:17] <varsendagger> why not
[01:17] <lightbright> tritium: thanks :)
[01:17] <xored> sethk: and try to run the windows tools wich are not ported right now
[01:17] <varsendagger> are you using breezy?
[01:17] <Talisker>   :\
[01:17] <_KoN_> New to linux, installed Ubuntu 5.04. I'm trying to get NWN working but i'm haveing troubles, can anyone help?
[01:18] <jacques> Neverwinter Nights?
[01:18] <blanky> _KoN_, get a NWN installer
[01:18] <dducko> _KoN_, I can
[01:18] <blanky> let me get you one
[01:18] <_KoN_> yep, never winter nights
[01:18] <f3ar> varsendagger, yes im using breezy....when it prompts for the root password....i enter it and nothing happpens
[01:18] <dducko> Nah, Installers suck.. do it the old fashion way, works better..
[01:18] <lightbright> tritium: why does ubuntu come standard with the old 386 kernel and not the 686 seeing the 386 was written for 1992 provessors?
[01:18] <xored> _KoN_: first thing you got to lear : POost the question, post not "can i ask2
[01:18] <sethk> xored, I've never been happy with wine, although mostly I think because I don't like windows in the first place.  :)
[01:18] <jacques> Ya, how would one go about installing that?
[01:18] <blanky> _KoN_, click here http://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/
[01:18] <dducko> Inf fact Im gettting ready to do it right now _KoN_
[01:18] <varsendagger> f3ar, just use your password
[01:18] <tritium> blanky, I hope that's not warez you're providing
[01:18] <f3ar> varsendagger, I DO
[01:18] <f3ar> sorry about caps
[01:18] <KumaSan> f3ar, there is no root password by default, it's asking for *your* password most likely
[01:19] <varsendagger> or use the command line apt-get and atp-cachesearch features
[01:19] <lightbright> sklav: can you answer that perhaps?
[01:19] <WebMaven> Anyone? What is the difference between the options "Erase Entire disk" and "Erase Entire disk and use LVM" ?
[01:19] <xored> sethk: hehe, yes but i need to use it, as i need some commercial tools. Photoshop and so on, until i get used to gimp
[01:19] <nightvis1on> hey guys
[01:19] <_KoN_> i've tried the method on bioware, but its not working
[01:19] <nightvis1on> im sutch a geek
[01:19] <tritium> just double-checking, as I'm not a gamer
[01:19] <KumaSan> WebMaven, one uses LVM on the disk, and one doesn't :)
[01:19] <f3ar> varsendagger, sorry about the caps...but i put in my password and still nothing happpens...
[01:19] <sethk> xored, oh, I know, and there are windows tools I have to use as well from time to time.
[01:19] <xored> sethk: Then i hopefully can run my Borland c++ 5 Builder under wine
[01:19] <lightbright> _KoN_: whats NWN?
[01:19] <sklav> ok here is the answer lightbright 686 cpu's are backward compatible
[01:19] <nightvis1on> ther is no spoon -The matricks
[01:19] <tritium> lightbright, to support more hardware
[01:19] <blanky> tritium, click on it, see for yourself
[01:19] <WebMaven> KumaSan: Yes, but what are the pros/cons?
[01:19] <tritium> got to go folks...
[01:19] <sklav> so they will work with 386 kernel
[01:19] <dducko> _KoN_, Which disk do you have?
[01:19] <tritium> blanky, just making sure
[01:19] <xored> tritium: good night
[01:19] <_KoN_> Never Winter Nights
[01:19] <sklav> but the 386 cpu's are not forward compatible
[01:19] <nightvis1on> who here has girlfreinds?
[01:19] <sethk> xored, haven't tried borland.  In fact, I haven't used borland in about 10 years, as I recall.
[01:19] <varsendagger> use sudo apt-get install mplayer nad
[01:20] <lightbright> tritium: so the 369 kernel supports more hardware than the 686 kernel?
[01:20] <nightvis1on> who has girlfreinds
[01:20] <blanky> _KoN_, I already told you. You need a linux installer, click here tritium blanky, I hope that's not warez you're providing
[01:20] <nightvis1on> i have a hot girlfreind
[01:20] <tritium> yes, lightbright
[01:20] <sethk> xored, not because there is anything wrong with it, just because the jobs I've done haven't called for it.
[01:20] <nightvis1on> that runs linix
[01:20] <blanky> http://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/
[01:20] <sklav> so safe bet it to use 386 by default because compatibility is more likely
[01:20] <xored> sethk: Iam using 5 c++ for low cost commercail devopment
[01:20] <nightvis1on> on her computer
[01:20] <lightbright> tritium: ok night :)
[01:20] <tritium> good night
[01:20] <dducko> Just the Original  Campaign?  Platinum DVD?
[01:20] <xored> sethk:  the editor of borland, is to say it in friendly words, bad
[01:20] <nightvis1on> my girl freins soo hot she uses c++ to inhanse her pictures she sent me
[01:20] <KumaSan> WebMaven, LVM allows you to add and remove HDs to your system, without messing up the install, but takes more admin to set up the volume groups and such, If you aren't going to be adding HD space, don't sweat it.  If you are running a server, it's probably worth looking into.
[01:20] <sethk> xored, doesn't have a plugin architecture, so you can use a different editor?
[01:21] <f3ar> varsendagger, i sudo apt-get install mplayer and nothing happens...
[01:21] <xored> sethk: not at all
[01:21] <rel_ish> nightvis1on: haha what
[01:21] <WebMaven> KumaSan: thank you. Seems contraindicated for this laptop.
[01:21] <_KoN_> thanks, i'll start looking for something more helpfull than what bioware gives -out-
[01:21] <xored> sethk: this would be geat ...
[01:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell f3ar about mplayer
[01:21] <sethk> xored, too bad.
[01:21] <KumaSan> WebMaven, yeah, not much point on a laptop.
[01:21] <varsendagger> use sudo apt-get update
[01:21] <xored> sethk: you thin of eclipse mayve
[01:21] <lightbright> sklav: I think I got it now after tritium's explantion! so the 386 kernel supports more hardware , and the 686 kernel supports more optimization?
[01:21] <sethk> xored, not really thinking of anything, just asking as I haven't looked at it for so long
[01:21] <sklav> yes
[01:22] <lightbright> sklav: was that yes for me?
[01:22] <rel_ish> nightvis1on: if that was supposed to be a joke about boobs, I think you could have done much better, and also you could have probably tried to spell more than 3 words correctly...
[01:22] <skapple> can someone tell me what it means if i have a device labelled none using 2.7 of 5.0 mb on my system monitor?
[01:22] <blanky> nightvis1on, wtf are you talking about lol
[01:22] <sethk> skapple, freed memory that hasn't been reclaimed yet
[01:22] <KumaSan> lightbright, yes, the 386 kernel will run on 386./486/586 and AMD, Cyrix, etc, the 686 won't run on all that
[01:22] <rixth> ubotu, tell blanky about lol
[01:22] <xored> sethk:  :) I think the linux user himself ist just used to that plugin-development, as it just shows, thats the way to go
[01:22] <sethk> skapple, linux uses a lazy algorithm to reclaim memory, which means that it isn't reclaimed until it is needed.
[01:22] <rel_ish> blanky: I think he was trying to talk about boobs, like a C cup bra, maybe? uuh perhaps?
[01:22] <rixth> Dammit. Wrong trigger.
[01:22] <blanky> rixth, I know that haha
[01:23] <WebMaven> nightvis1on: Who cares?
[01:23] <sklav> but i recommend you look into something like A++ pdf as it will go into more details about different architectures
[01:23] <rixth> blanky, I'll get the right one :)
[01:23] <sklav> lightbright, but i recommend you look into something like A++ pdf as it will go into more details about different architectures
[01:23] <Red-Sox> how do you turn off file sharing?
[01:23] <rixth> ubotu, tell blanky about aolbonics
[01:23] <rixth> Oh I can't be bothered. =/
[01:23] <lightbright> KumaSan: ok so 686 doesnt support as much hardware, yet if a persons hardware works with the 686, they should use it as its optimized better for more performance!  Ok I got it :)
[01:23] <sklav> the version of the answer you got is simplified but accurate for its means
[01:23] <blanky> aolbonics, ew
[01:23] <lightbright> sklav: where can I get the A++ pdf?
[01:23] <Pablo> !aolbonics
[01:23] <ubotu> Pablo: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:24] <blanky> lol
[01:24] <rel_ish> blanky: my blankets name is blanky...
[01:24] <KumaSan> lightbright,  pretty much, although the improvements are often more theoretical than actual :)
[01:24] <sklav> the unoffical way do a search on a p2p network
[01:24] <blanky> rel_ish, that's hot
[01:24] <sklav> or just purchase a book at a book store
[01:24] <Pablo> ubotu, tell Pablo about aolbonics
[01:24] <rel_ish> blanky: I'm holding it right now, I'm so immature
[01:24] <sklav> ps a search on google.com for A++ will give you pleanty of links
[01:24] <blanky> rel_ish, lol
[01:24] <lightbright> KumaSan: so the 386 processors were made in around 1992?  and the 486 around 1995?  and today they are 686?
[01:24] <Red-Sox> does anyone know?
[01:24] <lightbright> KumaSan:  hehe ok ;)
[01:25] <blanky> i used dducko tape on that dude
[01:25] <rel_ish> blanky: I even sewed a little face on the corner
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  Hmm disable samba?
[01:25] <WebMaven> Red-Sox: what kind of file-sharing do you mean?
[01:25] <KumaSan> lightbright,  well, that's about when they were released, b ut you can still buy 386 class CPUs,e specially for embedded stuff, they run cooler, and are a lot cheaper
[01:25] <blanky> rel_ish, that's nice, I upgraded mine with cyber blanky hacks
[01:25] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: over the internet, i guess
[01:25] <blanky> it can move and stuff
[01:25] <rel_ish> blanky: omg, sweet, what kind of games does it have?
[01:25] <sklav> KumaSan, the only things shipping with 386 cpu's are toasters :) hehe
[01:25] <WebMaven> Red-Sox: are you running a file-sharing client of some kind?
[01:26] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: all i know is someone got my IP and could see all my files
[01:26] <f3ar> varsendagger, sudo apt-get update isn't doing anything either
[01:26] <WebMaven> Ah.
[01:26] <lightbright> KumaSan: ok but my Celeron 800 is a 686
[01:26] <blanky> it has a category called 'in bed', but I dont wanna list those...
[01:26] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: over the net
[01:26] <WebMaven> So, you have samba running.
[01:26] <KumaSan> sklav, Hey , don't knock the embedded market, it's a lot bigger than the PC market :)
[01:26] <sklav> KumaSan, i know
[01:26] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: okay, I dont want it running!
[01:26] <KumaSan> lightbright, correct, it's a 686 class CPU
[01:26] <sklav> i was just joking
[01:26] <rel_ish> blanky, hahaha awwesome, now I desire to upgrade mine
[01:26] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: how do you stop it?
[01:26] <KumaSan> sklav, :)
[01:26] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: killall samba?
[01:26] <lightbright> KumaSan:  i understand, thanks for the learning
[01:26] <WebMaven> It would be unusual for that to be running on it's own, did you turn something on like printer sharing?
[01:27] <KumaSan> lightbright, np
[01:27] <sklav> Nees to get a AMD 64 or intel 64
[01:27] <varsendagger> f3ar, what is it telling you
[01:27] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: i think so
[01:27] <lightbright> :)
[01:27] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: yes
[01:27] <blanky> what was that new service where it's linux online, in a website, so it wasnt live or anything but isntead you went to a website and you could use it
[01:27] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: but I dont need it
[01:27] <blanky> i forgot what it's called
[01:27] <f3ar> varsendagger, nothing happens at all...doesnt say anything
[01:27] <needlz_> does anyone know a programm which can help me to setup a free email service for friends with 2 or 3 domains to choose?
[01:27] <f3ar> its as if i was entering it in xchat...i just see what i typed
[01:27] <sklav> needlz_, postfix / squirrelmail / apache / php4
[01:27] <sklav> and dovecot
[01:28] <sklav> is all you need
[01:28] <WebMaven> Well, you should be able to turn it off, and maybe (if you don't need to access printers or files on other machines on your LAN) just uninstall samba.
[01:28] <varsendagger> "/msg it to me please
[01:28] <sklav> practically work out of the box
[01:28] <t1n_m4n> Hey, I have just ndiswrapper'd my WPC54G and it took fine, but when I type modprobe ndiswrapper, then ifup wlan0, it says that wlan0 is an unknown interface... any ideas?
[01:28] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: k
[01:28] <needlz_> sklav: mh ok, thx
[01:28] <needlz_> lemme check dovecot :)
[01:28] <edgar> where do i go to setup my orinoco based wifi usb in breezy badger?
[01:28] <foxgamer> Hi all. I am just wondering whether it is possible to set up a radeon x300 graphics card in the 64bit version?
[01:28] <sklav> dovecot is simple
[01:29] <sklav> need complex cyrus-imapd
[01:29] <WebMaven> Red-Sox: I would also suggest investing in a firewall. I like the Linksys ones myself.
[01:29] <Red-Sox> WebMaven: i tried sudo apt-get remove samba. but nothing happened
[01:29] <sklav> I use shorewall
[01:29] <Red-Sox> !
[01:29] <ubotu> Red-Sox: Are you on ritalin?
[01:29] <needlz_> sklav: what i was looking for is something like freemails.ch
[01:29] <sklav> and its awesome
[01:29] <lightbright> whats the '-u' switch do here?  apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[01:29] <bucky> is this your charity? http://www.cncf.org/noble_circle/view_circle.asp?id=185
[01:29] <t1n_m4n> !tell lightbright about man
[01:30] <NobleArc> bah, stupid highlight.
[01:30] <coz> Hello All
[01:30] <lightbright> t1n_m4n: hehe ok, I get the hint :)
[01:30] <t1n_m4n> ^^
[01:30] <coz> Has anyone here tested NEROlinux
[01:30] <sklav> oh sorry needlz_ i thought you wanted to setup something that could do it
[01:30] <NobleArc> NeroLINUX is awful.
[01:30] <coz> wy is that
[01:31] <sklav> going to watch harry potter
[01:31] <sklav> hehe
[01:31] <sklav> i love that series
[01:31] <coz> So why is NeroLinux so bad?
[01:31] <KumaSan> anyone know how to make xchat play a sound when a msg refers to my nick?
[01:31] <t1n_m4n> Anyone have any idea why I don't have wlan0 as an interface, but ndiswrapper -l shows driver present, hardware present? I modprobe'd ndiswrapper allready...
[01:31] <WebMaven> sklav: did you read the latest one?
[01:31] <edgar> where do i go to setup my orinoco based wifi usb in breezy badger?
[01:31] <brdweb> NobleArc: actually I would say it's the 2nd or 3rd best burning suite for linux. But k3b works better and is open source
[01:32] <sklav> WebMaven, yes i have
[01:32] <KumaSan> edgar, network manager worked for me,
[01:32] <NobleArc> I love K3B.
[01:32] <sklav> i have the whole series on books
[01:32] <coz> I am using gnomebaker right now and like that
[01:32] <jacques> hey guys, Ive read the wiki, and... Im still not sure how to make it possible to play mp3s...
[01:32] <varsendagger> f3ar, is it working?
[01:32] <WebMaven> t1n_m4n: try depmod
[01:32] <coz> but Nero uses GEAR as it's burning engine which is top of the line
[01:32] <cha> because nero doesn't know how to make linux apps
[01:32] <sklav> WebMaven, there should be a cool fight seen with voldermort on goblet of fire
[01:32] <t1n_m4n> okay one second
[01:32] <f3ar> varsendagger, nope
[01:32] <brdweb> coz: that's the other one that's worth mentioning
[01:32] <lightbright> is it a good idea to daily do apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean ?
[01:32] <edgar> KumaSan: so u didnt need the terminal or anything? because im setting this up for my gf over the phone
[01:33] <lightbright> edgar: is "you"
[01:33] <needlz_> sklav: http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/screenshots.htm...maybe you can use it too :)
[01:33] <f3ar> varsendagger, none of the System apps are even loading...i see the "starting.....whatever" but no windows appera
[01:33] <f3ar> appear*
[01:33] <coz> Well I can't afford GEAR for linux and I was hoping that nero worlked well on ubuntu
[01:33] <KumaSan> No, I didn't, but my card was supported without need for ndiswrapper or anything, just plugged it in, and away it went.
[01:33] <WebMaven> after you do modprobe ndiswrapper, do lsmod to see if it 'took', and then depmod to write the changes.
[01:33] <t1n_m4n> Yup, that did it.  Thanks alot WebMaven
[01:33] <lightbright> KumaSan: is it a good idea to daily do apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean ?
[01:34] <varsendagger> hmm anyone know what's happengin with f3ar system?
[01:34] <WebMaven> t1n_m4n: you are very welcome.
[01:34] <lightbright> t1n_m4n: try using man ;)
[01:34] <t1n_m4n> poo... wait... WebMaven, it didn't work.
[01:34] <edgar> thanks
[01:34] <KumaSan> lightbright, nah, it just clears up old package files, run it once a week or month, or if you get a little tight on space
[01:34] <t1n_m4n> WebMaven, I see wlan0 in iwconfig, but I still can't ifup wlan0
[01:34] <f3ar> varsendagger, i cant even open up the users and groups to set up a new account
[01:35] <lightbright> KumaSan: ok but im setting up a script that does update and upgrade daily!  would it hurt to add clean and autoclean to the daily run script?
[01:35] <sklav> lightbright, your starting to sound like a troll
[01:35] <sklav> hehe
[01:35] <varsendagger> f3ar, reeboot
[01:35] <DShepherd> sklav: a troll? how so?
[01:35] <jacques> how do i to the terminal?
[01:35] <DShepherd> lol
[01:35] <lightbright> sklav: how rude :(
[01:35] <sklav> well he is asking simple questions multiple times after receiving multiple answers
[01:36] <f3ar> varsendagger, this isnt the first time this has happened...i just booted up before entering this channel...
[01:36] <WebMaven> t1n_m4n: on my laptop, there is a stupid little button that turns the wifi on and off 9and an associated light). Could yours have something similar?
[01:36] <sklav> and now he is writing a script
[01:36] <DShepherd> sklav:  oh.. ok
[01:36] <sklav> hehe
[01:36] <DShepherd> lol
[01:36] <KumaSan> lightbright, hurt? no, you might wind up having to d/l a  package again once in a while, but that's about it.
[01:36] <lightbright> sklav: im new to Linux and ubuntu and learning a lot, by asking questions, sorry if that bothers you :(
[01:36] <sklav> doesntbother me
[01:36] <sklav> at all
[01:36] <lightbright> KumaSan: ok thank you
[01:36] <sklav> im just stating something i noticed no disrespect whatsoever
[01:36] <KumaSan> jacques, applications->accessories->terminal
[01:37] <t1n_m4n> WebMaven, I'm using a pcmcia card.  No button ^^; The weird thing is that ndiswrapper sees it, iwconfig sees it, and ifconfig sees it.  I need ifup to get dhcp for it, although.
[01:37] <sklav> im one for asking questions
[01:37] <sklav> and lots of them
[01:37] <lightbright> sklav: i love getting different ideas from different people!  I have received to class feedback and help here, the most helpful people I ever met are in this channel!  And I never had anyone be bothered until you
[01:37] <todd> Hi all, needs some help setting up ubuntu server with two NICs. Have a compaq with onboard NIC and Netgear NIC. Onboard card works fine, but cant get second card to work. Works with Knoppix so it not the hw. Any ideas?
[01:37] <sklav> hehe
[01:37] <sklav> if i was bothered would i have answered?
[01:37] <lightbright> sklav: dont worry, I wont ask you anymore questions
[01:38] <lightbright> brb
[01:38] <mweichert> can someone tell me if gnome menus are user-specific?
[01:38] <varsendagger> f3ar, what did you do?
[01:38] <mweichert> for example, can I change the menu that each user sees?
[01:38] <sklav> mweichert, its possible
[01:38] <f3ar> varsendagger, what do you mean...
[01:38] <KumaSan> todd, do an lspci and see if the card is identified, also, boot knoppix and look at the modules it loads, it may simply need the module added to the whitelist
[01:38] <sklav> but you would have to store that info in /etc/skel
[01:39] <t1n_m4n> WebMaven, I got it.  I used Networking in the System Menu.  The gui front end solved it for me.  I feel like a cheating nub, but I have wireless.
[01:39] <KumaSan> mweichert, yes, they can be different for each user.
[01:39] <t1n_m4n> WebMaven, it added auto wlan0 to my /etc/networking/interfaces
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> sklav,  isent /etc/skel just used when a NEW user is made? as a 'default' home dir?
[01:39] <todd> lspci does detect the card as National Semiconductors DP83815, same as Knoppix
[01:39] <t1n_m4n> that allowed ifup to pick up on it. ^^
[01:39] <sklav> i know Dr_Willis
[01:39] <sklav> im mentionning it as option
[01:40] <sklav> already created users would need the files copied to home directories
[01:40] <varsendagger> f3ar, in order for you to loose your administrative utilitie you must have deleted something
[01:40] <sklav> i dont know of a more efficient way
[01:41] <Talisker> is it possible to split an ext3 partition into two partitions?
[01:41] <t1n_m4n> What does the err : "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" mean? I get it when trying to start a terminal.
[01:41] <KumaSan> sklav, sabayon, it's kinda cool. Lets you make profiles, and such
[01:41] <sklav> i used it last week to be honest but i thought it was a remote X viewer
[01:41] <sklav> hehe
[01:42] <KumaSan> skapple, :)
[01:42] <f3ar> varsendagger, i dont know what i may have deleted but nothings working anymore heh this sucks
[01:42] <KumaSan> er sklav, :)
[01:42] <sklav> lol
[01:42] <zapada2> Does anyone have a keygen for the latest linuxant drivers?
[01:43] <sklav> i thinks it time to eat
[01:43] <sklav> im hungry
[01:43] <KumaSan> f3ar, what's the problem?
[01:43] <varsendagger> f3ar, i would look around and see if i could find apt
[01:43] <varsendagger> or somehting like that in /usr/bin
[01:43] <f3ar> KumaSan, i can't run any of the admin apps such as Upadge, Synaptic, Users and Groups, etc...not even Add Applications
[01:44] <f3ar> varsendagger, look around where...
[01:44] <KumaSan> f3ar, sudo doesn't work anymore?
[01:44] <f3ar> KumaSan, nope
[01:44] <sklav> f3ar, i had similar issue
[01:45] <varsendagger> f3ar, nevermind ask these guys
[01:45] <f3ar> sklav, were you able to fix it
[01:45] <sklav> sudoers file is probably missing your username in there
[01:45] <sklav> i was able to fix it
[01:45] <f3ar> varsendagger, thanks man
[01:45] <nightvis1on>  my computer is over refreshing and my bios is staling can any one help me?
[01:45] <KumaSan> f3ar, but you can log in fine with your username password right?
[01:45] <sklav> but i changed roots password because i had to logon
[01:45] <nightvis1on>                          v
[01:45] <nightvis1on> v
[01:45] <sklav> or you can try logging into linux single
[01:45] <nightvis1on> v
[01:45] <nightvis1on> vv
[01:45] <nightvis1on> vv
[01:45] <nightvis1on> vsdfs
[01:45] <nightvis1on> dfsd
[01:45] <nightvis1on> fd
[01:45] <nightvis1on> d
[01:45] <nightvis1on> d
[01:45] <nightvis1on> d
[01:45] <nightvis1on> d
[01:46] <nightvis1on> d
[01:46] <nightvis1on> d
[01:46] <sklav> easy nightvis1on
[01:46] <nightvis1on> d
[01:46] <nightvis1on> d
[01:46] <nightvis1on> d
[01:46] <sklav> your going to get banned
[01:46] <bobcat> ?
[01:46] <bimberi> !ops
[01:46] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[01:46] <f3ar> KumaSan, yeah i can log in normally with my user/pass
[01:46] <f3ar> sklav, how can i replace the sudoers file...if that is the problem..
[01:46] <sklav> f3ar, did you change or delete the initial user account?
[01:46] <sklav> you need to add the following
[01:46] <f3ar> sklav, no
[01:47] <sklav> restart the system in single mode
[01:47] <sklav> aka failsafe
[01:48] <bimberi> nalioth: tks :)
[01:48] <sklav> make sure you have the following %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:48] <synackuator> my celery box just goes blank after the ubuntu breezy loading splash screen... any ideas?
[01:48] <sklav> and make sure your username is part of the admin group
[01:48] <KumaSan> f3ar, when did you add a root passwrd?
[01:48] <sklav> synackuator, what videocard?
[01:49] <f3ar> KumaSan, i dont think i added one...
[01:49] <synackuator> an original ATI all in wonder 16mb
[01:49] <synackuator> i can go to the fail safe mode to get a prompt, but X won't start
[01:49] <KumaSan> f3ar, what did you change that started this?
[01:49] <sklav> synackuator, i had the same issue
[01:49] <sklav> i filled a bug report
[01:49] <xulin> i
[01:50] <sklav> you got further than me
[01:50] <f3ar> KumaSan, nothing that i know of...i have been trying to install mplayer without any luck
[01:50] <xulin> is have a little problem with firefox ..
[01:50] <sklav> i could not get past the install part "partitioning"
[01:50] <jacques> can someone help figure out how to play mp3's
[01:50] <KumaSan> f3ar, start up a terminal, and run sudo ls, see what error pops up
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[01:50] <ubotu> to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:50] <xulin> i install gxine and mplayer but .. is it possible to choose with one is used in firefox ?
[01:50] <jacques> Ive ready the wikis and such, yet I still cant get it to play
[01:50] <jacques> Ive already read the wiki on restricted formats
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  then clarify the problem.
[01:50] <f3ar> nothing happens
[01:51] <f3ar> KumaSan, nothing happens...
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> thats telling us nothing. :P
[01:51] <jacques> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[01:51] <KumaSan> f3ar, you don't get a request for a paswword?
[01:51] <f3ar> KumaSan, nope
[01:51] <sklav> jacques, does it skip threw all the files?
[01:51] <threeseas> hate to say it but breezy really shouldn't be getting the press it has laterly -- regarding being ready for business use..
[01:51] <The> Hello
[01:51] <KumaSan> f3ar, does the ls command run?
[01:51] <jacques> ive only selected one mp3 file
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> run a mp3 player from the shell. see if any errors pop up.
[01:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> What is a good midi player for ubuntu?
[01:51] <synackuator> sklav: you're sure it's the video card?
[01:51] <f3ar> if i only enter 'ls' yes
[01:52] <jacques> sorry DrWillis, but, how do I do that?
[01:52] <f3ar> KumaSan, but if i enter sudo ls, nothing happens
[01:52] <sklav> synackuator, i tried 3 different ati 8meg AGP cards
[01:52] <KumaSan> The_Isle_of_Mark, timidity
[01:52] <sklav> same issue
[01:52] <sklav> i installed my nvidia issue is gone
[01:52] <sklav> go to ubuntu.bugzilla.org
[01:52] <wsmith> I would very much like to be able to burn an audio cd from a collection of mp3s without using the command line. Which package(s) would provide such functionality?
[01:52] <foxgamer> I have just made changes to my xorg.conf file. Is there a way I can 'reload' this without restarting the computer?
[01:52] <sklav> and do a search for ati
[01:53] <sklav> there are some fixes posted there
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  open up a terminal.. run xmms, or beep-media-player or whatever mp3 player ya want fby typing its name
[01:53] <sklav> for your particular issue
[01:53] <sklav> something about vga=741
[01:53] <sklav> try that in grub
[01:53] <sklav> vga=741
[01:53] <The> I'm new at this   Can I get some advice on installing Opera
[01:54] <synackuator> sklav: ok thanks, i'll look into that
[01:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Kumasan is it in the repos?
[01:54] <Ubuntutrouble> trying to install breezy getting stuck at this ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ tried disabling some irq's no change
[01:54] <KumaSan> f3ar, sounds odd, look in /var/log/auth.log for errors
[01:54] <xored> can i use gimp making Design for commercial uses ?
[01:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell The about opera
[01:55] <sklav> Ok guys im off
[01:55] <sklav> the wife is looking for a lawyer heheh
[01:55] <Travisty> hey all, I have a question about suspending and hibernating. I used to be able to hibernate from my shut down menu (breezy) but now the option is gone. How can I get it back?
[01:55] <KumaSan> The_Isle_of_Mark, yes,  for Breezy and Dapper, don't know about Hoary
[01:56] <f3ar> KumaSan, Nov 24 12:08:13 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=  user=f3ar
[01:56] <f3ar> Nov 24 12:09:32 localhost sudo:     f3ar : command not allowed ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/f3ar ; USER=root ; COMMAND=validate
[01:56] <f3ar> Nov 24 12:09:42 localhost sudo:     f3ar : command not allowed ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/f3ar ; USER=root ; COMMAND=validate
[01:56] <f3ar> Nov 24 12:14:05 localhost gdm[6874] : (pam_unix) session closed for user f3ar
[01:56] <KumaSan> Travisty, it's an issue with /etc/defaults/acpi-support,
[01:56] <lightbright> sklav: hehe
[01:56] <Travisty> why would it go away if I had it?
[01:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> KumaSan, it is in breezy, thanks :)
[01:57] <neoplasticity> anyone know what the lowest level editor
[01:57] <KumaSan> f3ar, are you currently logged in as root? or f3ar?
[01:57] <lightbright> Travisty: perhaps something was installed that removed it?
[01:57] <xored> can i use gimp making Design for commercial uses ?
[01:57] <neoplasticity> on ubuntu is?
[01:57] <neoplasticity> vi
[01:57] <neoplasticity> isn't working
[01:57] <aeon17x> xored: why not?
[01:57] <kethinov> after installing ubuntu, i installed KDE as well. but it cluttered up my GNOME menu something fierce. how can i remove, say, kde-games, without removing KDE itself? (i like to play with KDE on occasion, but not its games.)
[01:57] <lightbright> Travisty: can you right click and chose Add to Panel?
[01:57] <f3ar> f3ar
[01:57] <xored> aeon17x:  Lizens issues. Just asking
[01:57] <KumaSan> Travisty, look at the file I listed, and uncomment the line it tells you to. Then restart acpi, or reboot
[01:57] <_jason> neoplasticity, try pico or nano
[01:57] <f3ar> KumaSan, logged in as f3ar
[01:58] <Travisty> what would you like me to add?
[01:58] <synackuator> are .dmg files mac specific binaries or what?
[01:58] <samu2> kethinov, heh, i have the same problem
[01:58] <KumaSan> f3ar, the log seems to suggest that you are root, what does whoami tell you?
[01:58] <samu2> the menus are a total mess after i installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <f3ar> KumaSan, it tells me that i'm f3ar
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> synackuator,  disk 'image' files - yes - sort of.
[01:58] <lightbright> Travisty: also try right click on the word System in toolbar and Edit Menu
[01:58] <kethinov> samu2, the problem seems that apt won't remove kde-games without removing all of kde. this seems wrong to me
[01:59] <lightbright> Travisty: maybe you can add it again there
[01:59] <samu2> kethinov, im sure theres a way to do it. i just havent been bothered to find out how.
[01:59] <make100> hey folks i got a problem just installed ubuntu.... but when the loginscreen shold appear there only is black screen......
[01:59] <kethinov> samu2, maybe some kind of argument can be passed to apt to ignore the deps?
[01:59] <f3ar> KumaSan, brb
[01:59] <lightbright> Travisty: not sure, sorry
[01:59] <samu2> kethinov, maybe, i prefer synaptic.
[01:59] <christus_aevum> Okay, I'm an uber linux newb. Is there a way to install .rpm packages, or is there something else I need to do?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> make100,  try alt-ctrl-F1 - and see if ya can get to the shell. X may need reconfiguring.
[02:00] <synackuator> Dr_Willis, o i see.  do you know if they can be opened in linux or extracted or whatever?
[02:00] <make100> ahhh oki will try
[02:00] <make100> thx
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> synackuator,  not that ive ever seen/tried/.heard about.
[02:00] <Talisker> can any of you recommend a good, solid, backup utility?
[02:00] <make100> any other suggestions if that not work ?
[02:00] <Travisty> I understand adding stuff to that menu, But I used to have the option available under System - Logout
[02:00] <samu2> kethinov, maybe you can remove the kubuntu-desktop package without removing the dependent files. and then remove all packages you dont need separately.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Talisker,  'mondo/mindi' is handy for some people.
[02:00] <f3ar> KumaSan, i just logged out...tried to log in as root but i dont know the password...
[02:00] <Abysmal> eveing all.. anyone here running ubuntu of a mac??
[02:00] <f3ar> KumaSan, i guess this means that i dont have root yet...
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Abysmal,  i was a few mo. ago. Not any more.
[02:01] <Talisker> I only want it to cram my entire system as it is into a single file, and the reextract it to a new partition so it'll work just as though nothing ever happened
[02:01] <KumaSan> Travisty, as I said, uncomment the line in /etc/defaults/acpi-support
[02:01] <bimberi> make100: what's your video card?
[02:01] <Talisker> does that kinda tool exist, or will I have to reinstall?
[02:01] <lightbright> Talisker: I use rsync and works great
[02:01] <halibut> can you install ubuntu from the live cd?
[02:01] <Talisker> rsync? K
[02:01] <bimberi> halibut: no
[02:01] <lightbright> Tartaros: ah then you need tar
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> halibut,  not at this thime.
[02:01] <make100> bimberi ati x600
[02:01] <KumaSan> f3ar, forget root, if you didn't set a root password, you don't have access to a root account, Ubuntu does admin by sudo.
[02:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell make100 about ati
[02:02] <KumaSan> f3ar, now try running sudo ls, and see whaat error shows up
[02:02] <Talisker> lightbright, I don't need to cram it across the network, only to a diffrent drive
[02:02] <bimberi> make100: the link ubotu just sent you should tell you about installing updated ati drivers
[02:02] <f3ar> KumaSan, no error...nothing at all
[02:02] <bimberi> make100: ... something else you could try :)
[02:02] <make100> didnt get anything
[02:02] <lightbright> Talisker: i use rsync to make a mirror copy of hda to hdb!  yet you can also use tar, eg>  tar -lcv /|tar --exclude /mnt -C /mnt -x
[02:02] <ubuntu> hello
[02:02] <bimberi> !ati
[02:02] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:02] <christus_aevum> Is there any documentation on what packages I need to download when I'm trying to install software from sourceforge?
[02:02] <christus_aevum> .rpm is not working
[02:02] <bimberi> make100: ^^^^^
[02:02] <lightbright> Talisker: rsync works best for me
[02:03] <make100> ahh there something came
[02:03] <Abysmal> dr_willis.. I just got the latest 5.10 and cant get my mac to boot into it.. i used the chooser to select what I wanted to boot.. it flashes an orange screen but goes right back to the chooser.. what am i doing wrong??
[02:03] <Talisker> lightbright, that command you issued basically shoves all my system into a tarball?
[02:03] <lightbright> bimberi:  hello there :)
[02:03] <zapada2> why dont i have make?
[02:03] <bimberi> hi lightbright :)
[02:03] <rcmiv> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[02:03] <rcmiv> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[02:03] <RedRose> is there anyway, VIA a network conenction, that i can control my GUI? not VNC, but manipulate the actually GUI that's up?
[02:03] <KumaSan> f3ar, then something serious is borked,  without access via sudo you can't change config files for the system. You can try booting in single user mode, and runing visudo from the console.
[02:03] <zapada2> i get error: bash: make: command not found... .whtf
[02:03] <lightbright> Talisker: i use rsync to make a mirror copy of hda to hdb!  it works great and I can even then boot ubuntu off the other hard drive :)
[02:03] <bimberi> zapada2: not installed by default - sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Abysmal,  the chooser? Ive never dual-booted on my mac. so it alwyas booted straight to linux.
[02:03] <lightbright> Talisker: isnt that what you wanted?  into a file?
[02:04] <zapada2> bimberi, tanks
[02:04] <f3ar> okay, i guess i'll just reinstall
[02:04] <Talisker> the question is
[02:04] <KumaSan> RedRose, x2x
[02:04] <bimberi> zapada2: np :)
[02:04] <rcmiv> sorry...cat...
[02:04] <make100> Note: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are not available in Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10)
[02:04] <Talisker> if I'll just tar it all and then extract it on another partition
[02:04] <make100> damn am i doomed ?
[02:04] <Abysmal> dr_willis.. the option button on boot = chooser..
[02:04] <KumaSan> RedRose,  assuming both systems are running X
[02:04] <f3ar> KumaSan, thanks for the help...i'm going to reinstall now...i'll be back
[02:04] <KumaSan> f3ar, 'l
[02:04] <Talisker> will it boot properly? [assuming lilo has been reconfigured, of course] 
[02:04] <KumaSan> f3ar, 'k
[02:04] <lightbright> Talisker: you will need tar for that
[02:04] <bimberi> make100: not sure, reconfiguring X is still worth a try
[02:04] <make100> Note: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are not available in Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10)
[02:04] <Travisty> KumanSan - I didn't see acpi-support under /etc/default
[02:04] <Abysmal> anyone else know how to get the live cd to boot on a mac??
[02:05] <bimberi> make100: ctrl-alt-f1, log in, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:05] <Talisker> so what I need to do is to tar my enire fs and then untar it after I split the partition?
[02:05] <KumaSan> Travisty, do you have acpi installed? maybe it was removed in the upgrade for some reason?
[02:05] <lightbright> bimberi: does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  recongifure video card?
[02:05] <zapada2> bimberi, i ram that, but i still dont have make
[02:05] <RedRose> KumaSan:Ummm, Well Via A Browser, I Want TO Control My Desktop On Linux From Windows
[02:06] <lightbright> Talisker: why not do as I do?  make a mirror copy?
[02:06] <KumaSan> Travisty, acpi-support is the pakage name
[02:06] <bimberi> lightbright: drivers for it, yes
[02:06] <Talisker> I don't know how to and tarring seems simpler
[02:06] <lightbright> bimberi: ok
[02:06] <Talisker> Is there any real benefit in mirroring it?
[02:06] <RedRose> KumaSan:Got It... x2VNC
[02:06] <bimberi> lightbright: as well as for keyboard, mouse, monitor
[02:06] <RedRose> TY
[02:06] <lightbright> Talisker: rsync is more reliable and easier
[02:06] <lightbright> bimberi:  cool
[02:06] <bimberi> zapada2: really?  did it install something?
[02:06] <KumaSan> RedRose, there's a java VNC plugin IIRC, and Linux will work with the rdesktop protocol (same setup that MS-Windows uses for it's remote dektop) if there's a client for the browser for that/
[02:06] <Travisty> KumoSan: I have acpi-support installed
[02:06] <cliebow> how do i find what pkg contains samba.schema?
[02:07] <lightbright> Talisker: simply format hdb and mount it
[02:07] <RedRose> KumaSan:Got It... X2VNC
[02:07] <lightbright> Talisker: then rsync everything from hda to hdb
[02:07] <jnymo> hi yell
[02:07] <KumaSan> RedRose, yep, that'll work too :)
[02:07] <zapada2> bimberi, 'couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials"
[02:07] <jnymo> yall, rather
[02:07] <lightbright> Travisty: need help wit the command?
[02:07] <KumaSan> Talisker, then try reinstalling acpi-support, maybe the file got deleted for some reason.
[02:07] <bimberi> zapada2: build-essential (no s) :)
[02:08] <zapada2> ah ok :)
[02:08] <lightbright> Talisker: how big is your source hard drive?
[02:08] <slew> jnymo, what brand?
[02:08] <jnymo> swisher sweets
[02:08] <Talisker> 120 gigs, only 5 gigs of data tho :)
[02:08] <Talisker> "tar -lcv /|tar --exclude /mnt -C /mnt -x"
[02:08] <lightbright> Talisker: ok and how big is ytoue destination hdb drive?
[02:09] <Talisker> what doe that -C and -x do when attributed to --exclude?
[02:09] <slew> whats a good system monitor program for gnome?
[02:09] <Talisker> 27 gigs
[02:09] <Talisker> about 7 free gigs
[02:09] <lightbright> Talisker: i thought your hdb was empty
[02:09] <Talisker> nope
[02:09] <cyphase> anyone have experience with rtl8180 wireless cards?
[02:09] <lightbright> Talisker:  whats on it and what filesystem?
[02:09] <Talisker> files
[02:09] <Talisker> backups
[02:09] <Talisker> fat32
[02:10] <KumaSan> later all.
[02:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone know why I can't play midi files through alsa?
[02:10] <lightbright> Talisker: ah ok
[02:10] <Travisty> lightbright: the issue is I lost the ability to hibernate my laptop from the logout menu. I have acpi installed
[02:10] <jnymo> was there a point, a few months ago, when ubuntu's package repositories got funky, and everyone had to fix their local configs? cause mine got funky a month or two ago, and now synaptic always tells me "cannot stat package" or something
[02:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> I am not a linux multimedia guru
[02:10] <lightbright> The_Isle_of_Mark: I cant either
[02:10] <lightbright> Travisty: ask bimberi
[02:10] <lightbright> if anyone knows, bimberi  will :)
[02:11] <lightbright> KumaSan: wb :) we missed you
[02:11] <cyphase> Anyone have experience with rtl8180 wireless cards?
[02:11] <lightbright> :P
[02:11] <Travisty> ok, Will do.
[02:11] <Talisker> K
[02:11] <Talisker> I have enough free space
[02:11] <Talisker> is my setting rsyncable?
[02:11] <bimberi> lightbright: rubbish!
[02:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cyphase yeah
[02:11] <bimberi> lightbright: :)
[02:11] <lightbright> bimberi:  ;)
[02:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cyphase use ndiswrapper
[02:12] <lightbright> bimberi:  no need to be modest
[02:12] <cyphase> The_Isle_of_Mark, it isn't working
[02:12] <lightbright> :)
[02:12] <F-Lazer> damn this is hard, took me over 15 min to figure out how to install apache
[02:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cyphase while I am working on other things I can help you
[02:12] <jonathon> hello how do i add my hdparm settings to the boot?
[02:12] <lightbright> F-Lazer: and now its easy the next time :)
[02:13] <jnymo> damn.. maybe I should buy some ubuntu service. anyone know of a really cheap help service for ubuntu?
[02:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cyphase send a private chat and we can work on it
[02:13] <F-Lazer> yupp, now i just need to figure out how to start it and lay up a web page
[02:13] <lightbright> F-Lazer: many things are hard at first, then once that has happened, its easy :)
[02:13] <Travisty> Bimberi: I need some help! Lightbright says that you might know.
[02:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cyphase using one with ndis right now
[02:13] <bimberi> lightbright: i think you're perception of my knowledge diverges from reality :) (maybe i just type confidently)
[02:13] <lightbright> jonathon: sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:13] <jonathon> ok
[02:13] <lightbright> bimberi:  hehe ;)
[02:13] <F-Lazer> im betting thats gonna take a couple of weeks *new to linux*
[02:14] <jonathon> is gedit or nan better
[02:14] <lightbright> jonathon: i prefer gedit because im new :)
[02:14] <Talisker> what flag do I use for tar to set the output file?
[02:14] <lightbright> jonathon: experts like vim I have heard :)
[02:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cyphase, still there?
[02:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> vim is the best!
[02:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> there I said it
[02:14] <ggg> Hi, I have just installed "sensors" but it didnt updated the kernel modules it needs to work, modules such as support for i2c, etc. How can I do to create and use kernel modules, once I have allready a working Ubuntu linux installation??
[02:15] <Travisty> Bimberi: so the issue is I lost the ability to hibernate my laptop from the logout menu. I have acpi-support installed.
[02:15] <lightbright> jonathon: what do you want to change to hdparm?
[02:15] <jonathon> lightbright: i find nano very simple to work in the console so i keep it in x too
[02:15] <bimberi> Travisty: -c
[02:15] <lightbright> The_Isle_of_Mark: hehe ;)
[02:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !midi
[02:16] <ubotu> methinks midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:16] <lightbright> jonathon: why do you want to edit the hdparm file?
[02:16] <bimberi> Travisty: sorry, i've little knowledge of acpi
[02:17] <jonathon> lightbright: im trying to get my hdparm settings to not reset everytime i reboot
[02:17] <Travisty> ok, thank you for at least hearing my plea. I have gone through the forums and am lost. This is a needed feature and I don't much care for suspend2.
[02:17] <lightbright> jonathon: for what drive?  hda hdc?
[02:17] <jonathon> /dev/hda
[02:17] <Talisker> lightbright, is it normal for tar -lcP to show me the entire contents of the files it's compressing?
[02:17] <jonathon> i think i have to add it to my rc scripts
[02:18] <lightbright> Talisker: not sure sorry
[02:18] <lightbright> Talisker: man tar
[02:18] <ggg> Hi, I have just installed "sensors" but it didnt updated the kernel modules it needs to work, modules such as support for i2c, etc. How can I do to create and use kernel modules, once I have allready a working Ubuntu linux installation??
[02:18] <Talisker> I tried that
[02:18] <lightbright> jonathon: type this: hdparm /dev/hda
[02:18] <lightbright> jonathon: does it say DMA is On?
[02:18] <bimberi> Travisty: k, sorry i can't help :|
[02:18] <jonathon> yes dma is on
[02:19] <jonathon> but i want other features too
[02:19] <jonathon> lightbright: dma is enabled by default
[02:19] <lightbright> jonathon: then you dont need to add it
[02:19] <jonathon> there is more settings than that
[02:19] <lightbright> jonathon: what other features?
[02:20] <jonathon> oh never mind i worked it out
[02:21] <bob832> if i setup ssh to access my machine remotely, do i need to install firestarter?
[02:21] <lightbright> jonathon: :)
[02:21] <Talisker> lightbright, I give up, tar is'nt work properly, could you help me with that rsync?
[02:21] <bimberi> bob832: no
[02:21] <lightbright> Talisker: rsync will copy file by file, mirror image
[02:21] <bob832> simple answer:  thanks
[02:21] <lightbright> Talisker: thats what I do and works great for me!  is that what you want?
[02:22] <Talisker> Yeah
[02:22] <bimberi> bob832: np :) (and nick completion nearly got me again :) )
[02:22] <Talisker> I want it to copy my entire root directory to /media/oldfiles/Backup2
[02:22] <Talisker> how do I do that?
[02:22] <lightbright> Talisker: ok type: from root of source hard drive: rsync -avxH / /mnt
[02:22] <lightbright> Talisker: first mount hdb to /mnt
[02:23] <Talisker> can't I use the current mountpoint?
[02:23] <kovu> does anyone know if i can explicitly tell the gnome control center (or nautilus) which character encoding it should use?
[02:23] <lightbright> Talisker: mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt
[02:23] <lightbright> Talisker: sorry, type this: mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[02:23] <Talisker> what's wrong with the current mount point?
[02:23] <kg> hey
[02:23] <lightbright> Talisker:  where is it mounted now?
[02:24] <jnymo> anybody ever bought one of those canonical support deals?
[02:24] <kg> I had ruby1.8 installed, i installed ruby1.9, then removed ruby1.8, the link ruby -> ruby1.9 is gone, how do I make it appear again? except manually linking?
[02:24] <kg> I mean, what's the 'proper' way?
[02:24] <wsmith> \
[02:24] <Agrajag> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/ruby1.9 /usr/bin/ruby
[02:25] <bimberi> jnymo: anyone who has wouldn't need to come here :)
[02:25] <jnymo> very true.. this many speaks truth
[02:25] <kg> Agrajag: yes, I know how to link files. But the package manager can do stuff when installing packages. Stuff I might not know about.
[02:25] <lightbright> Talisker: ok type from root of source hard drive: rsync -avxH / (placeofmount)
[02:25] <Agrajag> so force-reinstall ruby1.9
[02:25] <jnymo> s/many/man
[02:26] <kg> Agrajag: that's a bit aggresive
[02:26] <Agrajag> or try dpkg-reconfigure on it
[02:26] <navarone> s/many men/many women...<s>
[02:26] <kg> Agrajag: this did not work
[02:26] <ggg> Hi, I have just installed "sensors" but it didnt updated the kernel modules it needs to work, modules such as support for i2c, etc. How can I do to create and use kernel modules, once I have allready a working Ubuntu linux installation??
[02:27] <kg> hmm, package irb needs ruby1.8, so I guess it's back to 1.8 anyway :<
[02:27] <jnymo> is there a place I can get a whole new sources.list file? with some nice extra repositories already in it? I think mine is messed up. :(
[02:28] <bimberi> !easysource
[02:28] <ubotu> methinks easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:28] <bimberi> jnymo: ^^^
[02:28] <jnymo> aaawesome
[02:29] <navarone> ggg> take a look at this thread may hold the answer  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lm-sensors
[02:29] <Madpilot> ggg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[02:29] <samu2> oh theres an easysource thingy these days. thats nice.
[02:29] <lightbright> Talisker: how did it work out?
[02:29] <bimberi> jnymo: it is :)
[02:29] <navarone> whenever I see the word "wiki" I tyhink of hula dancers...lol
[02:29] <navarone> idky
[02:31] <jnymo> omfg.. thats like.. the greates thing.. ever
[02:31] <navarone> bimberi...does the easy source provide repos that may have unstable deb?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> navarone, you want unstable debs ? why ?
[02:32] <IXI> guys what is the command on unbuntu to get root access for th elive cd? isnt it sudo su?
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> IXI, sudo -s
[02:32] <IXI> wickedpuppy, thought so
[02:32] <navarone> wicked...I was wondering so as to avoid them
[02:33] <navarone> If I choose i386..will it still provide for k7 arch?
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> navarone, btw easy source is a configurator ... look at the bot description
[02:33] <navarone> I am there now wicked
[02:34] <Kerr> how can i get hardware rendering with my nvidia card?
[02:34] <ggg> thanks
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Kerr, installed the driver yet ?
[02:35] <Kerr> currently using nv.
[02:35] <Kerr> migrated from sarge 'cause of a hdd crash
[02:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !midi
[02:35] <ubotu> midi is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> !nvidia
[02:36] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:36] <Kerr> thanks
[02:36] <Travisty> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this issue with AmaroK???
[02:36] <Travisty> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:36] <Travisty> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'.
[02:36] <Travisty> .
[02:37] <kvantti> hi! some guy gave me the address for the link which contains the solve for wolfenstein et no sound problem in ubuntu. are you still there? i need to get that address again, thanks.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> kvantti, what does it look like  ? part of it ?
[02:38] <lightbright> Talisker: how did it work out with rsync?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> we can probably guess
[02:38] <kvantti> wickedpuppy i have no idea. i was very tired yesterday..
[02:38] <laszlok> Travisty: are you trying to play an audio cd?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> kvantti, perhaps firefox remembers
[02:39] <kvantti> wickedpuppy i even didn't have a look at it. i'l try to find it myself..
[02:39] <Travisty> no, I receive that error when ever I launch AmaroK.
[02:39] <JBBA> okay...i'm really new to linux.. how do i get something to install through a tgz file or folder or whatever?
[02:40] <laszlok> Travisty: try using a different engine
[02:40] <jnymo> so.. do you guys go with all the repositories on that list? or just some?
[02:40] <laszlok> Travisty: you'll probably get better help if you ask in #amarok
[02:40] <JBBA> does anyone know?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, you don't use source file ... check out system -> admin -> synaptic
[02:41] <Alinux> howto make Gnome more faster?
[02:41] <ubuntu> hey
[02:41] <JBBA> thankyou very much
[02:41] <ubuntu> hey guys
[02:41] <ubuntu> im new
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, get more ram
[02:41] <ubuntu> plz help
[02:41] <bimberi> navarone: (sry, got called away) as it says, some of the repositories "should only be used with caution and if you know what you are doing!"
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, i can see .. ask in one line
[02:41] <Alinux> wickedpuppy, 512
[02:41] <lightbright> bye everyone :)
[02:42] <ubuntu> ok
[02:42] <Alinux> I have a laptop
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, so is mine ... its fine here
[02:42] <JBBA> then what do i do in there?
[02:42] <ubuntu> i am trying to run or download aim or something so i can get on my screen name but im running on a LIVE-CD and i dont know if this is possible
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, p4 2 gig ... 512 ram
[02:42] <Travisty> I get the same error when changing engines. I'll ask in the AmoroK channel. Thanks
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, install whatever you want to
[02:42] <Siph0n> ubuntu: just use Gaim?
[02:42] <Siph0n> ubuntu: it comes with it i think?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> ubotu, gaim should be in the live cd
[02:42] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I give up, what is it?
[02:43] <jnymo> ubuntu: you'll have to to it again, each time you reboot
[02:43] <ubuntu> ok i opened it
[02:43] <chem199> I have a question about a problem I am having installing ubuntu, does anyone here think they can help me?
[02:43] <Alinux> wickedpuppy, 2700 MZ, my question is there some ways to get gnome faster?
[02:43] <JBBA> what i wanted wasn't in there...i'm looking for thunderbird
[02:43] <ubuntu> i know im just testing ubuntu out before i partition
[02:43] <eric_> Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?  Is it working for you right now?
[02:43] <Alinux> without hardware upgrade.
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> chem199, ask ... if nobody answers then nobody knows
[02:43] <ubuntu> ok im in "gaim"
[02:43] <cyphase> The_Isle_of_Mark
[02:43] <ubuntu> but how do i log onto my aim account?
[02:43] <navarone> bimberi> thanks...i got one made with the basic ones and one or two extras...but I think just switching to almost all ca archives may help...I just saved to text file...no hurry to much around yet...its late and I want to be thinking clearly...<s>
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, get more ram or use xfce , fluxbox ... gnome is sluggish ...
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, create an account ?
[02:44] <pr3vi0uz> u have too add the acoount for  which u wanna use  like aim,yahoo.msn
[02:44] <chem199> I am installing ubuntu breezy, and after I type in my username and password it hangs at 25% and never moves, can anyone shed some light on how to fix this?
[02:44] <Alinux> or use puppy linux ? :D
[02:44] <ubuntu> ok i typed in my screen name and password and protocol "AIM/ICQ"
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, up to you ...
[02:44] <zapada> can someone please send me a 56k modem that doesnt need drivers?
[02:44] <ubuntu> what is an alias?
[02:44] <meheren> can som1 tell me how to move file using command line?
[02:44] <bimberi> navarone: :).  Best to only have the non-ubuntu repos enabled for installs, not (dist-)upgrades
[02:44] <cyphase> The_Isle_of_Mark, you there?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> meheren, mv
[02:45] <dabaR> ubuntu: ctrl+a, then click "add" select your account, input login information, and then get the account online.
[02:45] <ubuntu> im lucky i found this program
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> chem199, your user name and pasword ... which part of the install ?
[02:45] <dabaR> ubuntu: it is a nickname. instead of your sign in name.
[02:45] <jvai> gnomebaker stalls while burning audio.. >:(
[02:45] <navarone> bimberi> I don't go for major changes..I am a firm beliwver in if it aint broke...leave it
[02:45] <JBBA> what i was looking for wasn't in there
[02:45] <chem199> the last part
[02:45] <ubuntu> can it just be ubuntu
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, what are you looking for ?
[02:45] <dabaR> meheren: ubotu will tell you
[02:45] <JBBA> THunder Bird
[02:45] <meheren> soo for an example if i wass to move /home/test to /home/meheren/ the i would type mv /home/test /home/meheren/?
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, thunder bird is definitely in repos
[02:45] <bimberi> navarone: you too eh :)
[02:45] <chem199> wickedpuppy: if i try to restart it says there is no os on the computer
[02:45] <JBBA> okay
[02:46] <ubuntu> i love this os
[02:46] <eric_> Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?  Is it working for you right now?
[02:46] <ubuntu> ive been windows all my life
[02:46] <jvai> i never thought gnomebaker would stall the whole hoary, i had to hard reset
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> JBBA, search for mozilla
[02:46] <ubuntu> i dont get any of this yall are talking about
[02:46] <JBBA> okay thnx
[02:46] <navarone> bimberi...my win2k setup has survived 2 years or more with no major troubles...I only install the programs that time has taught me to trust
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, the switch will take some times to get used to ... be patient
[02:47] <ubuntu> ok i tried to log in and it said incorrect nickname or password
[02:47] <ubuntu> im pretty sure my pass is right..
[02:47] <dabaR> jvai: you can try k3b, or nautilus burns data cds and dvds too.
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, then your username is wrong
[02:47] <pingswept> Hi all. Is there a way that I can verify a burned iso image? I've verified the iso file using md5sum, but I can't get any machine to boot off the CD. (I can browse the disk and read the few text files, though.)
[02:47] <ubuntu> is that the username i am logged in as?
[02:47] <jvai> no, k3b,, i want all gnome apps
[02:47] <dabaR> what alias?
[02:47] <ubuntu> yes
[02:47] <dabaR> jvai: ok, cool, feel free to do as you please.
[02:47] <ubuntu> i think i am in "root"
[02:48] <dabaR> OK, are you asking about an alias in gaim, ubuntu?
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, what does root got to do with aim ?
[02:48] <bhearsum> every time i use aptitude it wants to remove a TON of core packages. i've tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but that doesn't change anything.
[02:48] <bhearsum> its only aptitude that does it, not apt-get
[02:48] <ubuntu> i dont know.. im not good at this
[02:48] <dabaR> bhearsum: use sudo apt-get remove to remove single packages.
[02:48] <pr3vi0uz> pingswept is  it being burned as Image ?
[02:48] <bhearsum> dabaR: i'm not removing packages...i'm trying to get aptitude to STOP trying to remove most of my system
[02:48] <ubuntu> protocol = aim screenname = thisis1crazyboy password = (mypass) and alias = what
[02:48] <dabaR> bhearsum: it is a feature.
[02:49] <bhearsum> i know its a feature.
[02:49] <navarone> bhearsum> I had similar concerns today when trying to remove bittorrent...it listed ubuntu-desktop as something it had to remove...<?>
[02:49] <dabaR> bhearsum: ok, then, what are you asking?
[02:49] <bhearsum> navarone: bittorrent..hmm. i did recently install that
[02:49] <bhearsum> dabaR: i'm trying to get it to stop doing that
[02:49] <pingswept> pr3vi0uz: I believe so. It comes out looking like a normal CD with a hierarchy of files, rather than a data CD with one big .iso file on it.
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, you leave alias blank
[02:49] <ubuntu> oh
[02:49] <dabaR> bhearsum: why, that is what it does. use apt-get for the other task.
[02:49] <bhearsum> dude.
[02:49] <bhearsum> nevermind.
[02:49] <Knowerrors> Anyone here ever use Linspire?
[02:49] <Howdy125> I removed evolution and it removed my desktop.
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, i can't help ya much there ... i only use gaim for icq and msn
[02:50] <Alinux> simple aptitude howto ?
[02:50] <Howdy125> Knowerrors, I have
[02:50] <navarone> bhearsum> does it list ubuntu-desktop to be removed because bittorrent is part of default packages installed and it considers itself part of it?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, wrong channel ? #linspire
[02:50] <dabaR> Alinux: ask what you would like to know, I can tell you a few things...
[02:50] <ubuntu> WICKED!!
[02:50] <dabaR> Or others too
[02:50] <ubuntu> TY !!!!!!!
[02:50] <ubuntu> IT WORKED!!
[02:50] <Knowerrors> I went to # linspire, pretty dead in there
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> ok ok .. pls don't shout
[02:50] <ubuntu> ok 1 more question
[02:50] <bhearsum> navarone: it just has a huge list of packages to remove
[02:50] <ubuntu> sorry wicked
[02:50] <bhearsum> navarone: is there any way to find out what package is causing it?
[02:51] <dabaR> bhearsum: is ubuntu-desktop one of the packages?
[02:51] <Knowerrors> Howdy125: how does the speed of Linspire compare to ubuntu?  I heard its was slow to boot and desktop speed lagged compared with most linux distros
[02:51] <bhearsum> no
[02:51] <navarone> bhearsum> I figures as much when i look at the dependencies...I wisely left it I think...lol
[02:51] <eric_> Hey does anyone here use GmailFS?
[02:51] <ubuntu> well.. do you think that my internet connection is slow just in ubuntu or is it just because im on a live cd?? cuz i am on DSL and pages take awhile to load
[02:51] <dabaR> bhearsum: is your question maybe why it is doing that?
[02:51] <bhearsum> my question is how to get it to stop doing taht
[02:51] <Alinux> dabaR, I use the main apt-get commands so I heard about dselect and aptitude, dselect is not simple for me... so I would like to learn basical thinks in aptitude.
[02:51] <bhearsum> that, rather
[02:51] <dabaR> ok
[02:51] <Howdy125> Knowerrors, Linspire is very slow compaired to Ubuntu.
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, live cd ... cd is slower than harddisk .. :P
[02:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> gah, you work in an environment for years and never configure sound...then you want midi playback and BANG brick wall...who can help me get this stinking midi to work?
[02:52] <ubuntu> ok so its not my internet?? if i were to install ubuntu onto my c drive it would run beter
[02:52] <SCMark> Alinux: you should try synaptic
[02:52] <navarone> dabaR>I was saying how when trying to uninstall bittorrent in synaptic it tells me it has to remove ubunut-desktop...with no mention of bittorrent I might add...weird
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, definitely ...
[02:52] <ubuntu> P.S. - sorry about my name..
[02:53] <ubuntu> (its lovely but im a noobie)
[02:53] <Alinux> SCMark, yes I know, but I would like to learn something non gui :)
[02:53] <dabaR> Alinux: well, aptitude can be used similar to apt-get. When you know a package name, you can type: sudo aptitude install packageName. To remove,  sudo aptitude remove packageName. to search aptitude search packageName. YOu can also type in just sudo aptitude, and use the graphical interface.
[02:53] <dabaR> navarone: not really weird. Here is how it works, Alinux you listen to this part too.
[02:53] <Alinux> dabar very similar to apt-get :)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Alinux, man aptitude ? :P
[02:54] <infamus> ok all i have wine installed, and cannot find it to run it in any of my folders at all, does anyone know the default location i should go to run it? or is there something more sinister i need to do
[02:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> can anyone help me troubleshoot my midi playback?
[02:54] <SCMark> Alinux: just type "?" in aptitude
[02:54] <Alinux> wickedpuppy, man after simple howto ok :)
[02:54] <dabaR> When a package is installed with aptitude, aptitude remembers what packages were installed as dependencies. Then when you remove the package with aptitude, it removes all installed dependencies that came with it.
[02:54] <steven_> hey everyone... i am a little puzzled about something.  i downloaded the java jdk 1.5 verison (bin) from the sun site.  i used the fakeroot to create a deb java package.  After i installed the package, I went to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun and typed in java -version.  i was expecting to see java verison '1.5....'; but, i get java verison 1.4.2.  Does anyone know why this is the case?
[02:54] <kvantti> what about the support for dvb-t standard digital television card support in ubuntu? i wonder if any european user here owns and runs that kind of hardware?
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> infamus, just type wine ? if you got it from the repos and installed it via apt-get
[02:54] <agabus_> i need some help with modprobe. i am trying to setup my new wireless adapter for my laptop. but long story short since i messed up some of the configuration before hand i have some trouble.
[02:54] <jnymo> ok.. I have this question.. it's a little long winded though..
[02:55] <Alinux> dabaR, reat...I'm copyng :)
[02:55] <Alinux> great
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> steven_, ls -l java ... what you get ?
[02:55] <navarone> dabaR> does that mean it can break dependencies of other packages?
[02:55] <jnymo> erm.. firrst.. whats that xchat command to make commands go into the chat?
[02:55] <dabaR> ubuntu-desktop is a package that is really only a list of dependencies. When you remove any package that is its dependency, it gets removed too, as it can not be on the system any more, as one of its dependencies is uninstalled.
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, you don't paste here ... pastebin
[02:56] <agabus_> when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper i get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found". could someone please help me load ndiswrapper into the modprobe.
[02:56] <dabaR> If you ever install ubuntu-desktop with aptitude, and then try to uninstall  one of the packages that came with it, all other packagfes that came with it will be pulled with ubuntu-desktop, using the first rant rule above.
[02:56] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: I know, but thats directly related to my problem.. that xchat command used to work, but now it doesn't
[02:56] <kvantti> i am going to get a ads hybrid card for christmas. i hope i can make it run..
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, copy paste will do
[02:56] <dabaR> infamus: just type wine programName in a terminal.
[02:57] <navarone> dabaR> I am just gonna leave it... I gave ubuntu 14 gb fora  reason...<s>
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> navarone, i give it all my HD
[02:57] <infamus> dabaR: thanks
[02:57] <Alinux> dabaR, aha.. good... everything clear.
[02:57] <agabus_> anyone? im sure its something simple...
[02:57] <SCMark> is it possible to open the latest quicktime movies with mplayer?  I know VLC can
[02:57] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: I have nothing to copy and paste.. its just that many things on my desktop that sent commands to bash are now broken because the paths in bash are messed up or something...
[02:57] <Ep|phany> hi i installed gstreamer0.8-mad so i could use mp3 filles with amorok but now i cant control the volume and when i click the sound icon it tells me theres nothing registered and i have to run gst-register
[02:57] <dabaR> jnymo: /exec -o command
[02:57] <Ep|phany> anyone have any ideas?
[02:57] <dabaR> jnymo: #flood
[02:57] <kvantti> navarone i got ubuntu on a 160 gb partition. it will really get crowded when i get that mpeg2 enconding dvb-t card ;)
[02:57] <dabaR> I have an idea, unrelated to your qeustion./
[02:58] <ubuntu> wickidpuppy: how do i go to this server
[02:58] <steven_>  ls -l java*
[02:58] <steven_> total 0
[02:58] <steven_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-11-26 23:43 javaws -> ../bin/javaws
[02:58] <navarone> wickedpuppy> I have win2k on primary drive and some windows partions set up on second drive and ubuntu using the free space... I found that way easier to do. The auto partitioning worked great
[02:58] <jnymo> hi
[02:58] <ubuntu> i dont even know how i got here in the first place.. i accidentally clicked somethin and popped up here
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, what ? you are in this server now
[02:58] <dabaR> Ep|phany: gst0.8-register
[02:58] <jnymo> ok.. that worked
[02:58] <ubuntu> wel yea but if i have to leave
[02:58] <navarone> lol@kvanti
[02:58] <ubuntu> can i ... put it in favs or something?
[02:58] <Bac9> tali: ping
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu, go to X-chat -> Server list
[02:59] <malv> windows and ubuntu report different times
[02:59] <nickrud> Ep|phany, gst-register-0.8
[02:59] <malv> how do I fix this?
[02:59] <dabaR> nickrud: ^;)
[02:59] <kvantti> navarone i'm just a hardware freak ;)
[02:59] <Ep|phany> is it in synaptic?
[02:59] <dabaR> nickrud: really?
[02:59] <nickrud> dabaR, I was reading your aptitude tutorial :)
[02:59] <trygve> xorg question for you all:  if I'm getting very thin white lines very briefly appearing on the left border of the screen and at least the right (possibly also left) border of windows, especially when moving the mouse around, should I be troubleshooting the mouse itself, the video driver, or something else entirely?
[02:59] <Ep|phany> nevermind
[02:59] <HrdwrBoB> trygve: video driver
[02:59] <varsendagger> anyone use afterstep 2.x?
[02:59] <jnymo> I just did an /exec -o echo hi .. and it worked
[02:59] <dabaR> nickrud: youres is right, anyhow...
[03:00] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, anyone here do any database modelling?  Im looking for a suitable linux tool that will let me visually design/map/create a database...
[03:00] <niggpie> Does anyone here use GmailFS?
[03:00] <paxmaster> is there a way to encrypt files in a command line
[03:00] <AndreLtR> how can iinstall it with windows without destroying the xp data please?
[03:00] <nickrud> dabaR, you were busy, I just did a quick backstop for you, hope you didn't mind
[03:00] <ivan> hi, i have just upgraded to breezy and now i cant login to gnome
[03:00] <ubuntu> so i just add what names i want
[03:00] <dabaR> nickrud: remember that choosing of default java program?
[03:00] <trygve> oh, and occasionally when I first go to move the mouse, it sometimes shoots back and forth across the screen (horizontally, only, no vertical movement at all), and usually registers a fair few scrolling, clicking, and right clicking events in the process
[03:00] <dabaR> How it is run...
[03:00] <Ep|phany> okay i can adjust the volume threw the icon now but its still showing it as having an X
[03:00] <ubuntu> is this the default ubuntu server?
[03:00] <nickrud> update-alternatives ?
[03:00] <kvantti> so, does someone run a dvb-t card in ubuntu?
[03:00] <nickrud> update-alternatives --config java, you mean?
[03:01] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: but it all started when I did an autoupdate and bash wanted to update.. after the update it told me that it wanted to make a new bashrc.. and i was like "hell naw" cause of all the work I put into making it work with java and whatnot.. well, then stuff stopped working
[03:01] <dabaR> yes. steven_ try that what nickrud said above.
[03:01] <dabaR> paxmaster: search the wiki about gpg, maybe there...
[03:01] <Ep|phany> i ran gst-register-0.8 but i still cant adjust the volume
[03:01] <jnymo> my paths still worked.. while working /from/ bash.. but the desktop was not accessing bash's paths right
[03:01] <dabaR> AndreLtR: install ubuntu is it?
[03:01] <Ep|phany> is there anyway i can restore defaults?
[03:01] <AndreLtR> quit
[03:02] <Alinux> dabaR, I'm in aptitude, how can I search a package to have detiled output?
[03:02] <dabaR> ivan: why cant you?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, bash should not move from /bin ?
[03:02] <ivan> i can't type my username in gdm :'(
[03:02] <Alinux> and ho can I rip in mp3 format with sound-juicer?
[03:02] <Knowerrors> Does anyone know of a Breezy Extras CD, with all the multimedia plugins, codecs, fonts etc that Easy Ubuntu and Automatix download?  I need one to give to a dialup modem user for ubuntu
[03:02] <dabaR> Alinux: I dont use it in teh graphical mode, try the ? key as someone suggested, it has its manual built in.
[03:03] <trygve> okay, so I should have clarified, *how* should I go about troubleshooting my video problem, then?  any pointers on getting started?
[03:03] <Alinux> I have only wav ogg and flac formats
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, use of automatix is not encouraged
[03:03] <nickrud> Ep|phany, I'd suggest using the preferences of the volume control to try controlling a different mixer slider.
[03:03] <dabaR> Alinux: mp3 is a non-free format, and more lossy than the free ogg format. try that one, it is good.
[03:03] <mweichert> how can I implement user profiles on linux, like done in windows?
[03:03] <Ep|phany> nickrud i did that it doesnt work though
[03:03] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: it didn't move, and desktop apps were reaching bash.. but it's like they could execute commands that bash depended on the path for..
[03:03] <theCore> paxmaster: first you need to have gpg key, then you can encrypt your file with 'gpg --encrypt FILE'
[03:03] <Alinux> dabaR, I know, but I have mp3 player ...not ogg :(
[03:03] <dabaR> ivan: can you type any user name?
[03:03] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: s/could/couldn't
[03:03] <Alinux> I know that ogg is better.
[03:03] <fulld> what's file sharing client that works out of the box with ubuntu and is not amule (assuming the user has already set up mp3 support)
[03:03] <ivan> dabaR: nothing, just spaces and >>>
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, forget desktop apps ... try them in commandline and see what error you get
[03:04] <nickrud> Ep|phany, try running alsa-mixer and see if you can control the volume there
[03:04] <navarone> Knowerrors> I think you can burn the cached packages to a cd and give to your friend if that would be easier...<?>
[03:04] <dabaR> Knowerrors: just download the packages, and burn as data CD, and give him.
[03:04] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: from the commandline, everything works fine
[03:04] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: yeah, I heard that before, that was just an example, I just need a cd with some of those packages to get the ubuntu system for them complete
[03:04] <steven_> wow that worked.  i don't know how you guys figure this stuff out... i have been racking my brain for a few hours
[03:04] <dabaR> trygve: what is the video problem?
[03:04] <trygve> because those little white lines when moving the mouse, I can live with.  but the brief spaz-fest that sometimes happens when I go to move the mouse is intolerable
[03:04] <Ep|phany> nickrud how do i run alsa-mixer
[03:04] <dabaR> steven_: we come here often, and see the issue over and over.
[03:04] <WebLOCH> Ep|phany, from the console type alsa-mixer
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> jnymo, then right click on the apps ... check their command see they are same as what you typed on the command line
[03:04] <steven_> lol
[03:04] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: wow.. theres a lot of traffic in here
[03:04] <nickrud> Ep|phany, type alsamixer in a terminal
[03:04] <trygve> dabaR:  "oh, and occasionally when I first go to move the mouse, it sometimes shoots back and forth across the screen (horizontally, only, no vertical movement at all), and usually registers a fair few scrolling, clicking, and right clicking events in the process"
[03:04] <navarone> epiphany> go to terminal and type alsamixer
[03:04] <Knowerrors> navarone: Im on dialup modem too
[03:05] <jnymo> wickedpuppy: k.. will do.. thanks
[03:05] <dabaR> mweichert: what is a user profile in windows?
[03:05] <navarone> Knowerrors> ouch...I feel for you...was on 56k for four years
[03:05] <Travisty> what is the recomendation on converting aac (m4p) to mp3?
[03:05] <Knowerrors> dabaR: I can go to a university lab and download burn a cd iso there, but not packages, because univeristy runs windows
[03:05] <varsendagger> anyone able to record audio with rosegarden?
[03:05] <trygve> ubuntu detected and set it up as a ProSavage video controller, which is certainly possible, I'm not sure.  it's integrated on the motherboard
[03:05] <neoplasticity> is there a way to pick which packages?
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, download the packages ... burn as data
[03:06] <neoplasticity> are installed?
[03:06] <mweichert> dabaR: sorry, I used the wrong term. I'm looking for a GPO equivalent
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, synaptic
[03:06] <aspro> Travisty: AFAIK jHymn cant get rid of the drm from itunes 6 downloaded tunes
[03:06] <dabaR> trygve: this happens often?
[03:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ha! stinking modules not loading take that! now the midi works!
[03:06] <trygve> very
[03:06] <neoplasticity> i mean on first install?
[03:06] <dabaR> mweichert: what is gpo?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, synaptic
[03:06] <Ep|phany> nickrud if i adjust master volume it works
[03:06] <neoplasticity> because i dont have the hard drive space
[03:06] <mweichert> dabaR: Group Policy Object
[03:06] <WebLOCH> Anyone know of any decent database modelling tools ?
[03:06] <trygve> I'd say at least once every 5min of normal usage
[03:06] <Ep|phany> so is there like a plugin i deleted or something?
[03:06] <neoplasticity> i dont have access to synaptic until the install is done
[03:06] <jnymo> dabaR: its the home folder that is created in c:/documents and settings/
[03:06] <neoplasticity> and the install fails
[03:06] <mweichert> dabaR: I want users only to be able to perform specific tasks
[03:07] <neoplasticity> because i dont have the disk space
[03:07] <neoplasticity> see the conundrum?
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, oh you mean pre install ... eh ah ... you need no more than 5 gig
[03:07] <nickrud> Ep|phany, I'm not sure :) I can usually get my sound to work, but I don't always understand what I've done.
[03:07] <neoplasticity> i have 1.6 gigs
[03:07] <trygve> but it's only when first moving the mouse from rest, if I keep it moving, even slightly, there's no problem, but if I'm typing and then reach over to take the mouse, it might spaz out, click a few things unintentionally, change window focus, create new folders on the desktop, etc
[03:07] <trygve> all sorts of annoying stuff
[03:07] <neoplasticity> i dont want gnome
[03:07] <neoplasticity> or gimp
[03:07] <neoplasticity> or open office
[03:07] <dabaR> mweichert: system>admin>users and groups.
[03:07] <kvantti> mweichert you can define user rights in the system/administration/users and groups tool rights section
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, server install then
[03:07] <dabaR> WebLOCH: for ERDs?
[03:07] <neoplasticity> i just need xfce and firefox
[03:07] <nickrud> neoplasticity, then when you install, select the server install
[03:08] <WebLOCH> dabaR, yeah that would do for now
[03:08] <WebLOCH> dabaR, been searching the repos but not finding much, just db libs lol
[03:08] <dabaR> Knowerrors: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <neoplasticity> does server install give x windows?
[03:08] <bimberi> neoplasticity: no
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> neoplasticity, nope btw xfce is not in the install cd i think
[03:08] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: his computer is 466mhz 256mb ram, plus hes used to windows, should I go with Kubuntu, Ubuntu, or Xubunut?
[03:08] <dabaR> neoplasticity: server install.
[03:08] <jnymo> anyone got that qemu accelerator installed on ubuntu?
[03:09] <mweichert> kvantti: I noticed that... but I'm looking for more control. I want users to only have the ability to run 5 particular applications
[03:09] <dabaR> WebLOCH: dia.
[03:09] <nickrud> neoplasticity, no, you would do apt-get install x-window-system-core to get basic X functionality.
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, whats the difference ? ubuntu will do :P you can change to anyother later
[03:09] <nickrud> and apt-get install twm :)
[03:09] <WebLOCH> dabaR, ty shall try it out
[03:09] <trygve> so, any suggestsion dabaR, or others?
[03:09] <trygve> or am I on my own here =)
[03:10] <anton_> Hiya peoples
[03:10] <trygve> evenin' anton
[03:10] <anton_> Is there a way I can have Breezy output my sound in mono rather than stereo?
[03:10] <dabaR> trygve: never heard before.
[03:10] <WebLOCH> dabaR, lol this is nice, but i was hoping for something to do backlground work for me
[03:10] <HedgeMage> Alinux: what player?
[03:10] <trygve> well thanks anyway, dabaR
[03:11] <dabaR> WebLOCH: what is bg work?
[03:11] <Alinux> mp3 player
[03:11] <HedgeMage> Alinux: never mind, I wasn't scrolling, didn't realize how old that convo was...
[03:11] <dabaR> WebLOCH: dia is very good, just get a hang of it.
[03:11] <Alinux> magnex :)
[03:11] <WebLOCH> dabaR, i just wanted something with dialogs where i add fields then drag lines etc lol
[03:11] <WebLOCH> dabaR, rather than s omething where i do all the data model logic myself
[03:11] <HedgeMage> Alinux: I haven't heard of that one... was just curious because many do handle ogg now
[03:11] <WebLOCH> dabaR, no doubt, it looks pretty handy actually, i wont be removing it
[03:11] <Alinux> HedgeMage, I would like rip mp3 format from sound-juicer :)
[03:12] <Alinux> HedgeMage, I know :(
[03:12] <HedgeMage> Alinux: I'm not familiar with sound juicer... I have used grip, though, which handles both mp3 and ogg
[03:12] <anton_> You see, my problem is that I only own one speaker, and mp3s that use multiple channels don't sound right...
[03:12] <Alinux> HedgeMage, I know goobox too.. more intuitive then grip
[03:13] <nickrud> Alinux, the manual for sound-juicer has instructions for setting up mp3 ripping at the end of the preferences section.
[03:13] <Alinux> grip is powerfull but not simple.
[03:13] <Alinux> nickrud, ah...just a moment
[03:13] <mweichert> want I want to be able to do I think, is add multiple groups to a file or directory
[03:13] <mweichert> and then set the permissions for each group
[03:14] <dhonn> help my Applications menu doesnt work
[03:14] <dhonn> places and systems work though
[03:14] <HedgeMage> Alinux: I find grip amazingly simple, but I'm used to doing it in CLI ;)
[03:14] <_jason> dhonn, have you restarted X?
[03:15] <dhonn> yeah
[03:15] <dhonn> it hasnt worked in days
[03:15] <_jason> dhonn, does ALT+F1 do anything?
[03:15] <dhonn> i click it it shows really fast
[03:15] <dabaR> dhonn: what is doesnt work mean?
[03:15] <dhonn> then it disappears
[03:15] <dabaR> ok
[03:15] <anton_> the best menus are Places and System anyways ;)
[03:15] <os2mac> with reference to the ubuntu live CD is there a list of boot options somewhere?/
[03:16] <Alinux> nickrud, wooow :)
[03:16] <dabaR> dhonn: have you tried adding a new custom menu bar, by right clicking the panel>add to panel?
[03:16] <Alinux> I did... simple very very simple :)
[03:16] <nickrud> Alinux, ;)
[03:16] <Alinux> nickrud, thank you ubu-bro :)
[03:16] <dhonn> yeah
[03:16] <Alinux> nickrud, finally GREATE!
[03:17] <reter> should i switch to breezy?
[03:17] <os2mac> anyone?
[03:17] <dabaR> reter: thats not a great question.
[03:17] <dhonn> i added a menu bar and a main menu
[03:17] <reter> hi dabar
[03:17] <mweichert> aha, linux ACLs!
[03:17] <dhonn> they both dont work
[03:17] <dhonn> just Places and System work
[03:17] <dabaR> os2mac: most likely on the cd, cause, that is what boots the options...
[03:17] <reter> dabar, i have hoary right now and i just wonder if breezy would be lighter on my computer since my laptop is a bit old
[03:18] <os2mac> looked... there are no text files to speak of...
[03:18] <dabaR> reter: likely not. try a different window manager, ubotu will tell you some tips in pm.
[03:18] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: "... use of automatix is not encouraged" Why is that?
[03:18] <os2mac> I would have expected something like knoppix....
[03:18] <anton_> breezy certainly SOUNDS lighter than hoary...
[03:18] <reter> dabar, what good is breezy?
[03:19] <infamus> is there a way to have higher resolutions than 1024X768?
[03:19] <nickrud> os2mac, f2 - f10(?) at initial startup of the install has the options available, so the text is there somewhere
[03:19] <bimberi> os2mac: Press F1 at the boot prompt
[03:19] <dabaR> reter: another non-answerable question.
[03:19] <reter> ok
[03:19] <f3ar> varsendagger, you there?
[03:19] <reter> thanks for the help then
[03:19] <dabaR> ubotu: tell infamus about fixres
[03:19] <dabaR> sure
[03:20] <varsendagger> f3ar, yeah
[03:20] <varsendagger> what up?
[03:20] <os2mac> I am on an installed kubuntu system... I am doing research for another friend.... who want's to use the live CD first... I don't have his computer...and don't want to reboot mine....
[03:20] <os2mac> does anyone know where I can find them online?
[03:20] <mweichert> how do I get ACLs in ubuntu?
[03:20] <_jason> os2mac, find what?
[03:21] <f3ar> varsendagger, i reinstall ubuntu 5.10 breezy...and i'm trying to install mplayer...
[03:21] <f3ar> im in synaptic right now
[03:21] <f3ar> varsendagger, however there is no mplayer package to be found
[03:21] <bina> Maybe you are missing some mirror
[03:21] <anton_> okay, last time - does anyone know how I can get mono sound output in ubuntu?
[03:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell f3ar about mplayer
[03:21] <dabaR> f3ar: ad multiverse: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[03:21] <bina> on the /etc/apt/source file
[03:22] <Trashcan> wheres that crazy bob guy
[03:22] <varsendagger> f3ar, send me your /etc/sources.list
[03:22] <dabaR> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <os2mac> a list of the boot options available....
[03:22] <dabaR> mweichert: what is acl?
[03:23] <mweichert> access control lists
[03:24] <os2mac> eww... acl's
[03:24] <duke3z> hi-- i've destroied my repository sources.list.  ooohhh noooo
[03:24] <f3ar> varsendagger, i think i got it..
[03:24] <dabaR> is it a linux thing?
[03:24] <dabaR> !easysource
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:24] <duke3z> thank you ubotu
[03:24] <os2mac> !live CD boot options
[03:24] <ubotu> os2mac: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:24] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: "...use of automatix is not encouraged" why is that?
[03:24] <MrPockets> if i have a USB flash drive, but i unmounted it
[03:24] <MrPockets> how to i remount it?
[03:24] <varsendagger> f3ar, you got it?
[03:25] <os2mac> !live CD
[03:25] <ubotu> os2mac: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:25] <bimberi> os2mac: have a look in the isolinux directory on the LiveCD, particularly f5 to f7.txt
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> Knowerrors, cause it installs things without asking for user first ... thats what its supposed to do btw
[03:25] <Ep|phany> is there a way to reinstall audio drivers?
[03:25] <dabaR>  f3ar out of curiosity, what instructions page did you use?
[03:25] <mweichert> os2mac: can you help me get acls on ubuntu?
[03:26] <dabaR> MrPockets: put it in again.
[03:26] <Knowerrors> wickedpuppy: thx
[03:26] <Knowerrors> Anyone know a good cheap place to get PC100 SDRAM?
[03:26] <lexhider> should installing ubuntu-calendar give me new entries in the "change desktop background" dialog?
[03:26] <dabaR> Knowerrors: google does.
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> meheren, acl is no more than rwxrwxrwx ?
[03:26] <os2mac> mweichert... I don't know enough about acl's on linux to help you
[03:27] <meheren> ?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-7/node27.html
[03:27] <mweichert> os2mac: thanks anyhow
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> oh
[03:27] <f3ar> varsendagger, not yet
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> wrong name ... lol
[03:27] <Ven0mSevenX> hi
[03:27] <Ven0mSevenX> how do i figure out what my root password is?
[03:27] <f3ar> dabaR, i'm using yours
[03:27] <varsendagger> f3 what is up?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, you mean rwx rwx rwx right ?
[03:27] <meheren> any1 no how to add a cursor theme under breezy?
[03:27] <varsendagger> f3ar,
[03:27] <Ep|phany> anyone know if its possible to reinstall the audio drivers/
[03:27] <Ep|phany> ?
[03:27] <Ven0mSevenX> is it the same as my account password?
[03:28] <dabaR> f3ar: and you got fixed with that? that was for my assignment in technical writing in school...:)
[03:28] <misfit_toy> meheren, art.gnome.org
[03:28] <duke3z> UBOTU you rule dude,  thanks on the sources list thingy
[03:28] <ubotu> :)
[03:28] <Knowerrors> dabaR: yeah, tried google, just tryin to narrow it down by word of mouth for good reputable ram dealers
[03:28] <meheren> ok
[03:28] <lexhider> .
[03:28] <misfit_toy> meheren, then click FAQ
[03:28] <steven_> okay guys i have another java related question....  i am using the Eclipse IDE, but I want to just compile (javac) from the bash screen.  However, I get javac: command not found; when I try to compile my java file....  Does anyone know how i go about I guess create some sort of symbolic link so i can use javac from any place in the filesystem???
[03:28] <meheren> ok
[03:28] <SCMark> how do I increase the subtitle size in totem
[03:28] <meheren> thx
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> Ven0mSevenX, use sudo
[03:28] <Ven0mSevenX> oh yeah
[03:28] <f3ar> dabaR, nice...yeah its working....although is mplayer universer or multiverse (non-free)
[03:28] <Ven0mSevenX> that's right
[03:28] <Ven0mSevenX> thanks wicked
[03:28] <pingswept> Ven0mSevenX: same as your account password
[03:28] <dabaR> f3ar: the latter.
[03:29] <dabaR> f3ar: also visit the page ubotu told you about in pm.
[03:29] <Ep|phany> anyone know why i cant control the pc speaker volume? i used to beable to but i installed this gstream mad and i cant anymore
[03:29] <mweichert> wickedpuppy: I mean, I want the ability to give group 'a': rwx,  group 'b': rw, group 'c': rx
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, no idea about that one
[03:29] <n0dl> does anyone know how to view the time in cli?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> steven_, you got no javac ?
[03:30] <bimberi> n0dl: date
[03:30] <f3ar> dabaR, awesome thanks alot...its working...that page is very easy to understand
[03:30] <dabaR> steven_: you installed a jre, or a jdk?
[03:30] <pingswept> mweichert: what are you trying to do?
[03:30] <f3ar> varsendagger, thanks for the help as well, this is a great community
[03:30] <steven_> well, i am able to compile in Eclipse, so i have to have the java compiler, right?
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> n0dl, guess ? if i were you i type date or time ... obvious choices
[03:30] <pingswept> n0dl: date
[03:30] <dabaR> f3ar: it is a product of 3 months of listening to tech writing class, and some feedback from the prof.
[03:30] <dabaR> f3ar: thanks for the compliment.
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> steven_, yes you got j2sdk1.5 i remember ... steven_ chek ya /etc/alternatives/javac
[03:31] <steven_> ok
[03:31] <dabaR> Ep|phany: how is it that you can not? did you ask in #kubuntu about amarok?
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> steven_, probably a link problem
[03:31] <ISOcrates> can someone help me get my wireless card working with my airport express (which is using 128-bit WEP encryption)?
[03:31] <meheren> art.gnome.org doesn't say how does any1 no how to get my already installed cursors working?
[03:31] <mweichert> pingswept: I have several groups of users... the developer group can launch administrative programs, however, the payroll group can only launch evolution, firefox, and openoffice.
[03:31] <meheren> i downloaded cursors how do i use them?
[03:32] <dabaR> ISOcrates: airport express the router from apple?
[03:32] <Ep|phany> dabar i can adjust the master volume but i cant adjust the pc speaker volume
[03:32] <misfit_toy> meheren, click on the FAQ on the right side of the art.gnome.org, it tells you how to do everything
[03:32] <dabaR> Ep|phany: in amarok?
[03:32] <Ep|phany> everywhere
[03:32] <ISOcrates> dabaR: yeah, that's the one
[03:32] <Ep|phany> even in volume control
[03:32] <pingswept> mweichert: I see. Can't be done with normal unix permissions, I don't think, which is probably why you were asking about acls.
[03:32] <dabaR> ISOcrates: and...your wireless works on other routers?
[03:32] <Ep|phany> no matter how hi or low i put the volume for pc speaker it doesnt change
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, http://acl.bestbits.at/ <-- check out this page
[03:33] <meheren> no not how to do cursors
[03:33] <dabaR> Ep|phany: what is pc speaker volume, is that the beeps?
[03:33] <ISOcrates> dabaR: i can get it to work with no encryption but i can't get it to work with WEP
[03:33] <Ep|phany> no
[03:33] <meheren> misfit_toy it tells everything but cursors
[03:33] <kvantti> USIcrates check out your router setup, and confirm that uPNP is active
[03:33] <SCMark> anyone know how to incease subtitle font sizes in totem?
[03:33] <dabaR> Ep|phany: yes.
[03:33] <Ep|phany> i have a notebook so its the speakers built into it
[03:33] <dabaR> :)
[03:33] <misfit_toy> meheren, try http://gnome-look.org
[03:33] <kvantti> SC ar
[03:33] <meheren> ok
[03:33] <steven_> okay, i guess i have a problem here.  I don't have javac in the /etc/alternatives directory.
[03:33] <dabaR> ISOcrates: did you read the wireless wiki page? ubotu will tell you the URL in pm.
[03:33] <Ep|phany> does anyone know if its possible to reinstall sound drivers?
[03:34] <mweichert> pingswept: yeah... I've heard that there ACLs can be implemented though
[03:34] <ISOcrates> dabaR: cool, how did you active that?
[03:34] <varsendagger> f3ar, you bet
[03:34] <dabaR> Ep|phany: as far as I know(afaik) the pc speaker means the beeps, not the speakers built  into the computer;
[03:34] <dabaR> ISOcrates: he will tell you that as well.
[03:35] <kvantti> http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=10601                   this is THE 5.1 system. and on christmas eve, it is all mine :)
[03:35] <misfit_toy> meheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[03:35] <mweichert> wickedpuppy: yeah, looked there... I guess all I probably need is coreutils, as kernel-2.6 seems to support ACLs by default. I
[03:35] <pingswept> mweichert: http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/171
[03:35] <varsendagger> --i am in the process right now to get internet tv working from winamp
[03:35] <ISOcrates> dabaR: thanks, i'll check that page out.  hopefully it will help
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> mweichert, thats my thought too ... 2.6 is supported
[03:35] <dabaR> ISOcrates: its a clue...:)
[03:36] <misfit_toy> meheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[03:36] <f3ar> varsendagger or dabaR, i just installed mplayer-586 i'm running a p4...synaptic installed everything...no in order to run it i would have to 'Add Applications' first, correct?
[03:36] <SCMark> anyone?  bigger subtitle font sizes?  anyone?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> f3ar, no ... synaptic will download + install mplayer
[03:36] <varsendagger> f3 i would install gmplayer if i wer you
[03:36] <mweichert> okay, next question :) how do I patch a deb file? :D
[03:36] <varsendagger> f3ar,  i would install gmplayer if i wer you
[03:37] <dabaR> f3ar: Apps>Sound & Video>Mplayer maybe.
[03:37] <kvantti> f3ar in order to mplayer run even if it is installed from synaptic, you need to copy a ttf font from any standard truetype as subfont.ttf in your mplayer home dir. also, it is very useful to install a "all" codec pack from the mplayer home site..
[03:37] <steven_> i get the following when i do a locate on the javac:  steven@jupiter:~/workspace/Test$ locate javac
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/doc/ant/manual/OptionalTasks/javacc.html
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/doc/ant/manual/CoreTasks/javac.html
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/javacc.vim
[03:37] <steven_> /usr/share/vim/vim63/compiler/javac.vim
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> steven_, pls don't paste here pls ....
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:37] <steven_> oops
[03:38] <dabaR> ya, use that page.
[03:38] <steven_> sorry
[03:38] <kvantti> f3ar i still have problems with some formats, but the startup problems are gone for me with that kind of installation
[03:38] <Trashcan> anyone know what might cause an ubuntu server install to sit at 6% for 2 hours while it 'retrieves' tons of packages (slowly)?
[03:38] <dabaR> steven_: do you have the .bin file on your comp still?
[03:38] <misfit_toy> meheren, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[03:38] <Ep|phany> anyone know if its possible to reinstall sound drivers from ubuntu?
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> steven_, btw ... your problem is bash is not finding javac ... you can just add the path to j2sdk1.5 bin in bash ... or fix the /etc/alternatives/javac path
[03:38] <f3ar> dabaR, okay i just didnt see in apps>sound/video
[03:38] <dabaR> misfit_toy: I hope you know you posted that 3 times already:)
[03:38] <f3ar> now i'm going to install the mozilla plugin
[03:39] <meheren> sry
[03:39] <meheren> i was getting the dog
[03:39] <misfit_toy> dabaR, yes, trying to help *someone else*
[03:39] <misfit_toy> dabaR, don't get me started
[03:39] <dabaR> f3ar: try mplayer in a terminal, and, usually, you want to go with opening files in mplayer, not opening mplayer itself.
[03:39] <dabaR> no, eh?
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> don't version the channel sophie_
[03:40] <f3ar> dabaR, gotcha, its working/installed...just need the plugin to work
[03:40] <ajmitch_> sophie_: please, don't do that
[03:40] <dabaR> f3ar: the plugin is called usually w32codecs, and you can get it probably where ubotu tells you in pm.
[03:40] <Ep|phany> is there anyway i can return my sound drivers to defualt?
[03:40] <sophie_> ajmitch_: do what sorry im trying a script called verstats
[03:41] <dabaR> f3ar: oh, oh, no, that is not that plugin.
[03:41] <ajmitch_> sophie_: I suggest you don't then :)
[03:41] <defendguin> si there anyone here who like the brown ubuntu theme?
[03:41] <Trashcan> lol
[03:41] <defendguin> s/si/is
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> sophie_, don't try any scripts here ... try it in empty channel ?
[03:41] <Nikyo> sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net
[03:41] <mjr> 33
[03:41] <jsauer> great program called automatix (google for it) can install various codecs for you automatically, and also install a lot of other useful apps...
[03:41] <defendguin> so one out of 200 in the channel
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, pls don't recommend automatix
[03:42] <synackuator> zenrox: ok how do I use this tcl plugin now?
[03:42] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, automatix should not be used; it breaks systems
[03:42] <jsauer> i've had good results... is there something bad with it?
[03:42] <dabaR> f3ar: that one is called mozilla-mplayer, or so.
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> defendguin,  most of us dont worry about themes.
[03:42] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, it enables root, which breaks the GUI config tools. And some other bad things
[03:42] <jsauer> ah
[03:42] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, our own robotgeek is fixing it up
[03:42] <dabaR> defendguin: and most ignore polls.
[03:43] <sophie_> Sorry all for the query script
[03:43] <bbrown> ls
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> and he is going to release a fork, called "EazyBreezy", jsauer
[03:43] <bbrown> ls
[03:43] <bbrown> pwd
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> which will be safe to use
[03:43] <sethk> wickedpuppy, why?  I don't use it, I'm just curious about your comment
[03:43] <defendguin> heh
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> sethk, see my comments
[03:43] <jsauer> cool... thanks.
[03:43] <sethk> seth_k|lappy, hey, not only are you uing my first name, you've got my initial also.  :)
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> jsauer,  theres some.... interesting discussion of it in the forums. :P be sure to put on your fireproof undies befor reading them :P
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> i am confused
[03:43] <dabaR> bbrown: try the terminal instead of irc.
[03:43] <bbrown> q
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> two sethk ...
[03:43] <seth_k|lappy> sethk, tch, I stole seth@ubuntu.com first; I win :)
[03:44] <seth_k|lappy> wickedpuppy, /me = Seth Kinast
[03:44] <seth_k|lappy> him != Seth Kinast :P
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> anyway sethk read seth_k|lappy's explaination on automatix above ... it break things
[03:44] <bbrown> dabaR: yea, I am doing IRC by proxy
[03:44] <sethk> seth_k|lappy, yes, I scrolled up and saw it.
[03:44] <bbrown> quit
[03:44] <seth_k|lappy> Dr_Willis, the forums are so corrupt :P censorship is the norm. You won't find any of that discussion left
[03:44] <bbrown> quit
[03:44] <bbrown> dope
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> seth_k|lappy,  heh - how sad.
[03:45] <seth_k|lappy> Dr_Willis, we're going to bring it up at CC, so maybe something will be done :)
[03:45] <jsauer> FYI... I've been a Fedora user for years and have switched over to breezy... it's been great. very good notebook support...
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, i was fedora users for years too ... and it does support notebook well ...
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> my notebook in any case
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> seth_k|lappy,  i even read through the script - i could just about write what it does.  But then again I had all the things it did.. allready done.  :P
[03:46] <sethk> wickedpuppy, recently I've loaded two laptops that worked out of the box with ubuntu and failed with fedora
[03:46] <f3ar> dabaR, im having some trouble installing the codecs
[03:46] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone help me out?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Ive had VERY good luck with Ubuntu 5.10 and my TUrion based Laptop.
[03:46] <f3ar> dabaR, can i pm you
[03:46] <dabaR> f3ar: specify them.
[03:46] <beekay> i am having a problem manually upgrading hoary
[03:46] <seth_k|lappy> Dr_Willis, exactly... those who know how to fix the things that break by enabling root, won't use Automatix... it's the new users that use it, and then their system gets hosed
[03:46] <dabaR> f3ar: more people more knowledge...
[03:46] <sethk> AbdulSpiegel, well, unless we are psychic, we don't know until you tell us what you need
[03:47] <AbdulSpiegel> lol
[03:47] <ISOcrates> does anyone know what file has the info that tells what wireless network to connect to on startup?
[03:47] <jsauer> i have breezy on a thinkpad r40 and suspend to ram works fine... still trying to get it to work on a compaq x1000 however... upon resuming, the mouse is all random and messed up
[03:47] <AbdulSpiegel> true
[03:47] <AbdulSpiegel> okay
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> sethk, something like that can happen to any distro ... go #fedora and they can tell you about how ubuntu break their laptops :P
[03:47] <beekay> when i do sudo apt-get upgrade, it gets to the end and says that there is a GPG error and that there were invalid signatures
[03:47] <beekay> does anyone know how i can fix that
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> !gpgerror
[03:47] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> seth_k|lappy,  i can honestly say ive done about everything I can think of to break ubuntu and havent done it yet. :P
[03:47] <beekay> thanks
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> !gpg error
[03:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, wickedpuppy
[03:47] <sethk> wickedpuppy, sure, but I'm just saying that my recent experience favors ubuntu over fedora
[03:47] <beekay> !gpgerror
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> ah heck
[03:47] <f3ar> dabaR, i think its working...let me figure it out...just a sec
[03:47] <dabaR> !gpgerr
[03:47] <ubotu> methinks gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[03:47] <synackuator> can anyone tell me how to use my TCL system info script?
[03:47] <navarone> lol
[03:48] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[03:48] <jsauer> is there an easy way to "undo" what automatix has done? without doing a reinstall?
[03:48] <beekay> !gpgerro
[03:48] <ubotu> beekay: I give up, what is it?
[03:48] <beekay> blah
[03:48] <beekay> !gpgerr
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, unautomatix ? :P ... no such thing
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> jsauer,  apt-get remove the stuff it installed for 90% of it.
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> beekay, i think its enough ?
[03:48] <seth_k|lappy> jsauer, yeah... I forget what robotgeek found out
[03:48] <seth_k|lappy> but basically sudo passwd -l root
[03:48] <seth_k|lappy> and restoring /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:48] <WebLOCH> dabaR, Any other DB Modelling suggestions?
[03:49] <seth_k|lappy> and removing the stuff it installed by hand, since it doesn't install things properly in some cases
[03:49] <beekay> !gpgerror
[03:49] <ubotu> Wish i knew, beekay
[03:49] <dabaR> WebLOCH: that one is fine.
[03:49] <beekay> !gpg error
[03:49] <ubotu> beekay: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:49] <dabaR> beekay: please stop, he said it above.
[03:49] <f3ar> dabaR, i did 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer' however totem is still trying to play the .mov's on http://www.apple.com/trailers/
[03:49] <jsauer> dang... the only reason I went with it was for the latest openoffice... guess I can go through the script and undo it step by step... might be quicker to just do a reinstall...
[03:49] <WebLOCH> dabaR, its not a db modeller, its a diagram editor, missing out the modelling part which I was rather keen on
[03:49] <f3ar> i should reboot? or is there a quicker way
[03:49] <beekay> oh im an idiot
[03:50] <dabaR> f3ar: thats cause it is the default plugin... no reboots except for kernel changes in GNU/Linux.
[03:50] <xulin> nanuit
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, graphics apps are rare on linux ... i been bitching for dreamweaver clone and visio clone
[03:50] <dabaR> WebLOCH: what is a modelet, a case tool?
[03:50] <seth_k|lappy> wickedpuppy, inkscape is working on becoming more like visio... their new version has connectors
[03:50] <navarone> wickedpuppy...how about nvu...I think that's the name of it
[03:50] <dabaR> WebLOCH: ILl model your database, Im reading that stuff now...:)
[03:51] <seth_k|lappy> ick navarone, nvu != dreamweaver or even close ;)
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> seth_k|lappy, inkscape yah ... i been trying it out :P
[03:51] <beekay> hmm is there any reason i cant install the packages: linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[03:51] <WebLOCH> dabaR,  cool if you want to
[03:51] <sethk> there's kivio, although it is underwhelming
[03:51] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, I wouldnt want a dreamweaver clone or a visio clone, but a simple db modeller would b e nice... have you tried NVU ?
[03:51] <deadcat> can ubuntu ppc live cd bootup on oldworld mac?
[03:51] <dabaR> WebLOCH: write out the specs, and send me the pastebin with it...
[03:51] <f3ar> dabaR, how can i set mplayer to default instead of totem
[03:51] <kvantti> can someone give the address for the nickserv faq site
[03:52] <navarone> seth> I wouldn't know a wysiwyg from a hole in the wall...<s>
[03:52] <f3ar> dabaR, is the in firefox or something else
[03:52] <AbdulSpiegel> does anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??
[03:52] <WebLOCH> dabaR, i couldnt do that buddy, i might aswell do it myself in that instance
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> kvantti, /msg nickserv help
[03:52] <dabaR> f3ar: I am not 100% sure. try starting with about:config in the address bar.
[03:52] <bimberi> WebLOCH: DBDesigner4 might be worth a look - http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/
[03:52] <WebLOCH> dabaR, just wanted pretty pre-rendered stuff done for me for documentation and some sql generated scripts
[03:52] <WebLOCH> bimberi, thanks
[03:52] <seth_k|lappy> does Umbrello do DB mockups? Or just code schema
[03:52] <jsauer> wickedpuppy, have you tried dia ... not that polished yet, but similar to visio
[03:52] <bimberi> WebLOCH: np :)
[03:52] <AbdulSpiegel> does anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??
[03:52] <dabaR> kvantti: /msg nickserv help. have you tried that?
[03:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[03:53] <infamus> whenever i try to change directories to one of my mounted NTFS hard drives, linux doesnt want to recognize the space in "program files"
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> jsauer, dia is not visio ... its general drawing stuff .. yes i tried it ... too ashamed to show it to my friends who use visio
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> infamus, use \
[03:53] <odie5533> How secure are the packages in the universe and multiverse?
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, i am using them
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> cd 'Program Files'
[03:54] <itsonlyme> hi
[03:54] <dabaR> wickedpuppy: welll, I never used visio, and for a modelling tool(drawing models) dia is great, I find.
[03:54] <f3ar> Does anyone know how to change Mplayer to the default player for Firefox, as opposed to Totem?
[03:54] <dabaR> odie5533: quite secure, but, not as the ones in main.
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> dabaR, i don't use visio to model ... i need to draw uml diagrams and use cases ... you know those project management stuff
[03:54] <dabaR> pah...
[03:55] <dabaR> thats analysis.
[03:55] <dabaR> and design.
[03:55] <dabaR> gantt and pert are pm.
[03:55] <dabaR> anyhow...
[03:55] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy,  you need to check out Poseidon then
[03:55] <jsauer> would be nice to export objects out of visio as svg's, then use something like inkscape
[03:55] <infamus> wickedpuppy: for the entire path? because the directory im trying to get to is /media/hda1/Program Files/Gravity/RO
[03:55] <seth_k|lappy> wickedpuppy, Umbrello is great at UML
[03:55] <dabaR> other ones too. But, there are UML diagrams in dia, and I find they work fine. For _drawing_ diagrams.
[03:56] <dabaR> use  /media/hda1/Program\ Files/Gravity/RO
[03:56] <infamus> dabaR: ah, thanks
[03:56] <ISOcrates> does anyone know what file tells what wireless network to connect to on startup?
[03:56] <itsonlyme> I am trying to install the ivtv module as per the mythtv wiki guide.  I ran into a problem when I modprobed the new module "FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ivtv/ivtv.ko): Invalid module format"   Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> thanks guys for the suggestions :P
[03:57] <dabaR> itsonlyme: type sudo uname -r in a terminal.
[03:57] <WebLOCH> ahh umbrello seems to do db erds too
[03:57] <maddash> !w32codecs
[03:57] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:57] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, check out poseidon and umbrello
[03:57] <itsonlyme> 2.6.12-10-686
[03:58] <dabaR> itsonlyme: ok, thats good, you have the right kernel it seems.
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> poseidon is pretty ex :P
[03:59] <sethk> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[04:00] <sethk> why isn't ubotu responding to that?
[04:00] <misfit_toy> sethk, valium
[04:00] <dabaR> what does he tell you?
[04:00] <AbdulSpiegel> does anyone know the apt-get for upgrading from 5.0.4??
[04:00] <AbdulSpiegel> the synthax
[04:00] <itsonlyme> Initially I ran make and got a gcc3.4 error not found.  A slightly more adavened linux user/friend of mine suggested creating a symlink from gcc4 to gcc3.4.  which allowed make to compile the driver.  Thats when I got the error the first time.  I apt-get'ed gcc3.4 and removed the symlink and tryed again.  Same result.  Did I screw it up entirely?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> AbdulSpiegel,  i know its covered in the ubuntu wikis :P
[04:01] <sethk> dabaR, my fault, I was looking in the wrong place.
[04:01] <misfit_toy> AbdulSpiegel, there is a whole walk thru on that at http://ubuntuforums.org
[04:01] <AbdulSpiegel> i dont got a cd tho
[04:01] <mmilo> hello
[04:01] <odie5533> As an ubuntu user, am I at risk to a rootkit?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> itsonlyme,  have ya  'apt-get install build-essentials' yet?
[04:01] <misfit_toy> AbdulSpiegel, it's done over the 'net, you don't need a cd
[04:01] <itsonlyme> yes
[04:01] <infamus> wickedpuppy: OMG ragnarok Online runs so freakin slow! i cant believe there arent good drivers for the ati radeon 7000 physical
[04:01] <mmilo> whats a rootkit?
[04:02] <dabaR> mmilo: it is something you dont want.
[04:02] <mmilo> i see
[04:02] <misfit_toy> infamus, ati is not a good linux card, they don't play well with open source, they are buttheads.
[04:02] <mmilo> well im just running the ubuntu live disk i got in the mail
[04:02] <dabaR> mmilo: google for more info. it is a hacker tool(dunno myseklf)
[04:02] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, what do you mean by poseidon being ex ?
[04:02] <mmilo> havent used linux before
[04:02] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, what does ex mean?
[04:02] <f3ar> yo dabaR I'm not having any luck getting this mozilla-mplayer to work...any ideas? it's installed but still won't play
[04:02] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, excellent, exciting, excremential
[04:02] <f3ar> apple.com/trailers is what i'm using to test it
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> expensive
[04:03] <misfit_toy> WebLOCH, excrutiating?
[04:03] <dabaR> odie5533: as much as anyone else, isntall programs only from the official, and community supported repos.
[04:03] <mmilo> just curious are there any good open source vector apps out there?
[04:03] <mmilo> like adobe illustrator
[04:03] <vince_> first time to use linux.. what is the command to install a .sh file in terminal?
[04:03] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, theres a community licence which is free and provides all of the UML stuff you could need
[04:03] <Fushi> Do you need a compiler to install gcc?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> vince_,  what are you trying to install?
[04:03] <vegos> when i play mpg files ubuntu restarts and i have to log back in, can anyone help
[04:03] <misfit_toy> vince_,  "sh file.sh"
[04:04] <vince_> crossover office
[04:04] <vince_> yes
[04:04] <sethk> Fushi, yes
[04:04] <Mr-Falkor> there should be a program that helps people like me to get rid of the computing addiction
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> vegos,  you mean X crashes and gdm restarts back up?
[04:04] <sethk> Fushi, you can cross compile one on another architecture
[04:04] <Knowerrors> Anyone know of a good drafting program for ubuntu
[04:04] <vegos> dr,  yes
[04:04] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, it's called "chicks 1.01"
[04:04] <dabaR> vince_: does that   program not come with tech support?
[04:04] <itsonlyme> I think build-essential isntalls gcc4, while make was expecting 3.4
[04:04] <Knowerrors> ?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Knowerrors,  'qcad' perhaps
[04:05] <vince_> of course, but not on sunday night
[04:05] <vegos> Dr, do you recognize this problem
[04:05] <vince_> i guess a .sh file is not a common file extension in linux
[04:05] <misfit_toy> itsonlyme, what are you installing?
[04:05] <Mr-Falkor> misfit_toy, Im damn serious :) I've got a gf
[04:05] <Fushi> So I need a compiler to install a compiler...grr that was the whole reason I was install gcc >_>
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> vegos,  X is crashing for some reason. Most likely a video-card issue.
[04:05] <misfit_toy> vince_, it's a very common thing .sh
[04:05] <Fushi> Thanks
[04:05] <itsonlyme> the ivtv drivers for mythtv
[04:06] <f3ar> dabaR, just so you know...i'm stupid i was using firefox and not mozilla hahaha
[04:06] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, what do ya need man?
[04:06] <dabaR> f3ar: nono, fx is part of mozilla.
[04:06] <Mr-Falkor> misfit_toy, help
[04:06] <vince_> how do i install it, misfit?  thanks for your help
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> vince_,   its just a 'shell script' - installing programs with .sh or .bin files/self installing executables - is somewhat rare.
[04:06] <dabaR> vince_: it is. chmod +x file.sh && sudo ./file.sh
[04:06] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, with?
[04:06] <vegos> do you know how i can trouble shoot this problem
[04:06] <dabaR> vince_: that above is your ticket to a broken system if that is not a safe package.
[04:06] <Mr-Falkor> misfit_toy, get rid of my computer addiction, I feel like crap without a computer
[04:07] <vince_> ty dabar
[04:07] <itsonlyme> misfit_toy: the ivtv kernel mod for mythtv  sorry for the double, hit enter too fast
[04:07] <varsendagger> f3ar, is ubuntu the first linux distro you've used
[04:07] <dabaR> vince_: take care when installing programs that way.
[04:08] <vince_> chmod, doesn't that just change the permission?
[04:08] <wethion> Is Enlightenment 16 or 17 in Ubuntu?  And where can I see a listing of all packages available in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <coz> hey guys in which file are screen savers kept?
[04:08] <misfit_toy> Mr-Falkor, oh, seriously then? hmmm, that's becoming a common thing, if you really need help I'd call your doctor and hook up with someone to talk to IN PERSON
[04:08] <f3ar> dabaR, so you know mozilla-mplayer isn't working in firefox, however it is working in mozilla browser
[04:08] <dabaR> vegos: well, first thing to ask yourself is: what program opens when I try opening an mpg file?
[04:08] <duke3z> is it ok to send a small video error in here?
[04:08] <duke3z>   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[04:08] <duke3z>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[04:08] <duke3z>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[04:08] <dabaR> f3ar: again, that is cause fx has totem as default, and mozilla does not.
[04:08] <kevman> I'm running the Emu10k1 sound driver. Is there any way I can use it to record sound?
[04:08] <f3ar> varsendagger, yes it is...i've used knoppix before...but ubuntu is my first install and attempt
[04:09] <misfit_toy> itsonlyme, myth stuff? why don't you ask in #myth first, they are really on the ball about mythtv
[04:09] <dabaR> duke3z: sudo aptitude install binutils?
[04:09] <duke3z> where the heck do you install binutils?
[04:09] <duke3z> i'll runit
[04:09] <wethion> Is there a place I can view all packages available in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <f3ar> dabaR, yeah exactly heh, now i need to figure out how to get mplayer working in fx
[04:09] <coz> does someone know which location screensavers are kept
[04:09] <jtan325> i'm trying to run some java stuff, but I get a NoClassDefFoundError
[04:09] <itsonlyme> Thanks, I forgot they were there...  :)
[04:09] <jtan325> would this have to do with java classpath?
[04:10] <wethion> coz: did you try xscreensaver?
[04:10] <coz> no thanks
[04:10] <dabaR> jtan325: why dont you paste your java program into paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[04:10] <duke3z> dabar Thank You Sir
[04:10] <dabaR> $20
[04:11] <duke3z> right 0
[04:11] <jtan325> dabaR, i think the java program is legit
[04:11] <jtan325> it works on my school servers
[04:11] <froguz> hello everybody
[04:11] <Xenguy> wethion: run 'synaptic'  ?
[04:11] <dabaR> jtan325: I think roses are red.
[04:11] <jtan325> but now i am trying to run the program (actually, a project) on my local machine
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, is it a packaged ? then classpath would be my first guess
[04:11] <froguz> i have a very tricky question, so i hope somebody can help me
[04:12] <itsonlyme> thanks to everybody who helped!
[04:12] <jtan325> i can just do "-cp"?
[04:12] <jtan325> it is packaged
[04:12] <wethion> Xenguy: I'm not running Ubuntu, I'm thinking of trying it out on my daughter's system, but I want to be sure it has all of the packages I need before I spend the time.
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, then check ya classpath settings
[04:12] <froguz> i need to rebuild an hdlist file from a centos cd install using ubuntu
[04:12] <jtan325> what should the classpath settings be?
[04:12] <jtan325> or can i just use "-cp" and specify the folders where the project files are
[04:12] <coz> ok checked xscreensaver and that's not what i want
[04:13] <varsendagger> f3ar, i'm asking because i've used mandrake and debian 3.1 and i *struggled* to get mplayer and gdesklets and gnome-sudoku running
[04:13] <jtan325> or do i also have to specify where the JRE's are
[04:13] <wethion> coz: what are you looking for?
[04:13] <jtan325> or something...
[04:13] <Xenguy> wethion: is there anything in particular you need?
[04:13] <coz>  I want the location of the separate screen savers in ubuntu
[04:13] <dabaR> jtan325: try #java, if you wont go along with my questions, and noone else answers.
[04:13] <froguz> since ubuntu doesn't have genhdlist, is there a way to to that ?
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> jtan325, it should point to the dir above the package settings ... and .
[04:13] <wethion> Xenguy: for starters, Enlightenment instead of Gnome.
[04:13] <jtan325> dabaR, i would paste it, but the program is actually a project, with dozens of files
[04:13] <jtan325> and alot of the code we didn't right
[04:13] <jtan325> write
[04:13] <Siph0n> is there ne way find can find a string in any file in a dir?
[04:13] <jtan325> it's a school project
[04:13] <coz> wethion I want to do alittle editing of a few of them and need to know where each one is located
[04:14] <wethion> Xenguy: is there a bloot I can query here?
[04:14] <varsendagger> wethion, do you use E16?
[04:14] <dabaR> jtan325: then, you need to run the file including the package, so like, java org.MainMethodClass
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: E is available in Ubu, yes
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: ubotu
[04:14] <wethion> varsendagger: Yes.
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: /msg ubotu keyword
[04:14] <ChocoPanda> helloo?
[04:14] <dabaR> wethion: bloot bot?
[04:14] <dabaR> ok, ya.
[04:14] <froguz> any who has rebuild a red hat based install cd????
[04:14] <wethion> Xenguy: Kk. thanks.
[04:14] <varsendagger> wethion, so do i, it is a bit hard to configur
[04:14] <Xenguy> wethion: np
[04:15] <Rex> Question: I'm having issues connecting to a windows computer over a network in Ubuntu. I think I should use Places-> Connect to server -> server type "Windows Share". Is this correct?
[04:15] <ChocoPanda> er..im new to linux...seeking some enlightment
[04:15] <f3ar> varsendagger, oh well i'm looking to get gdesklets working as well...whats gnome-sudoku?
[04:15] <dabaR> Rex: sounds right...:)
[04:15] <Xenguy> ChocoPanda: ask away
[04:15] <wethion> varsendagger: not hard at all.. but I've been dicking around with E for years now.
[04:15] <ChocoPanda> how come there is only one selection for the resolution in ubuntu 5.10?
[04:15] <froguz> ChocoPanda, are you chilean?
[04:16] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ChocoPanda about fixres
[04:16] <ChocoPanda> nope...
[04:16] <dabaR> ChocoPanda: it is related to your monitor. read the pm from ubotu.
[04:16] <Rex> dabaR: I thought so, but I'm not getting anywhere that way. I specify my windows computer's IP address, and I did enable sharing files and printers in Windows, but I'm still not sure this isn't a Windows problem.
[04:16] <pingswept> ChocoPanda: are you using a flat panel monitor?
[04:16] <ChocoPanda> oh..i missed that just now
[04:16] <ChocoPanda> nope
[04:16] <wethion> coz: if you have xscreensaver installed, or another screensaver package, the name of the screensaver can be used in a locate query.
[04:16] <froguz> ChocoPanda, your nick is a very famous icecream here
[04:16] <wethion> as in locate kumpaa
[04:17] <pingswept> ChocoPanda: what is the resolution you're seeing?
[04:17] <wethion> coz: as in 'locate kumpaa'.
[04:17] <froguz> please, i need some heeeeeeelp!!!
[04:17] <f3ar> varsendagger, what do you use for security purposes?
[04:17] <ChocoPanda> the lowest one
[04:17] <ChocoPanda> 640x480..i think
[04:17] <pingswept> Yeah, that's low.
[04:17] <wethion> froguz: that is a sure way to *not* get help.  ask your quesion, and if someone is available to assist, they will.
[04:17] <dabaR> Rex: do you know the IP addresses for both machines?
[04:17] <Rex> yes
[04:18] <dabaR> Rex: do you have a router?
[04:18] <ChocoPanda> ah.. thanks for the help guys
[04:18] <pingswept> ChocoPanda: not sure what to tell you.
[04:18] <arg|bx> hiyas
[04:18] <ChocoPanda> im gonna go read the linux for dummies book now..
[04:18] <froguz> how can i rebuild a hdlist file from centos install cd using ubuntu??
[04:18] <Rex> dabaR: My internet is provided by my university, so I could be connected to a router at some point. However, I know the IP of both computers and the internal and external IPs are the same.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> ChocoPanda,  ewww.. get better books then that.
[04:18] <cliebow> hi: what do i need to do to get samba.schema
[04:19] <Xenguy> ChocoPanda: good place to start if you have the book
[04:19] <ChocoPanda> lol i'll try
[04:19] <sethk> ChocoPanda, usually that means that your monitor has not been identified, so it assumes you have a monitor that can do only 640
[04:19] <ChocoPanda> thanks sethk~ cya
[04:19] <benplaut> are there any cli rss readers out there that output info in a ticker form?
[04:19] <sethk> ChocoPanda, all you have to do is go into the dialog for resolution and tell it that your monitor can do, whatever it can do
[04:19] <varsendagger> gnome-suduko is a game for sudoku
[04:20] <dabaR> Rex: can you ping from one machine to the other?
[04:20] <giany911> does any 1 know how can i ...add channels ..to fav like open at startup in xchat?
[04:20] <arg|bx> i'm trying to install ubuntu, its fails when installing the kernel
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  under the server list. has autojoin section :P
[04:21] <giany911> ty
[04:21] <Rex> dabaR: Yes, both machines can ping the other
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  #ubuntu,#linux,#HotLinuxBabes
[04:21] <varsendagger> f3ar, i don't have anything other than a hardware firewall
[04:22] <dabaR|food|patie> Rex: read the pm from ubotu is best I can do.
[04:22] <sethk> varsendagger, a hardware firewall is the best thing you can have.
[04:23] <kvantti> maybe you traditional gamers might enjoy the site www.happypenguin.org                 this site really has content
[04:23] <crexor> is there an faq anywhere for using the airport card in an ibook + ubuntu live?
[04:23] <varsendagger> wethion, how do you configure the pagers and whatnot, do you configure stuff manually or do you use some kind of enlightnement configuration tool?
[04:23] <dabaR|food|patie> crexor: airport extreme?
[04:23] <crexor> yea
[04:23] <kvantti> sethk yeah seth, just before i switched to ubuntu, my windowz soft firewally had reported 0 intrusion attempts through my buffalo airstation firewall. i feel extremely safe these days
[04:24] <fosorio> hi.. I just installed 5.04.. is there a way to upgrade to 5.10 without reinstalling?
[04:24] <dabaR|food|patie> crexor: it is impossible to use those with any GNU/Linux distro. Only apple has teh drivers, in OSX.
[04:24] <crexor> ah
[04:24] <dabaR|food|patie> ubotu: tell fosorio about breezy
[04:24] <varsendagger> forosio there is a wiki for upgrading isnt there>
[04:24] <dabaR|food|patie> fosorio: read the pm.
[04:24] <kvantti> fosorio apt-get update, atp-get distro-upgrade                    make sure to edit your installation sources from synaptic before this!
[04:24] <crexor> how about my usb wireless card
[04:24] <crexor> has prism2 chip
[04:24] <fosorio> ok.. thanks
[04:25] <kvantti> crexor that chip should be supported. i remember seeing prism support somewhere
[04:25] <dabaR|food|patie> ubotu: tell crexor about wireless
[04:25] <varsendagger> wethion, no answer?
[04:25] <crexor> oo i like it
[04:25] <crexor> thank you much.
[04:25] <dabaR|food|patie> crexor: I dont know whether it will work.
[04:25] <Rex> damn
[04:25] <froguz> how can i rebuild a hdlist file from centos install cd using ubuntu??
[04:26] <varsendagger> seth_k|lappy, what do you use for security?
[04:26] <seth_k|lappy> varsendagger, security?
[04:26] <badmacktuck> anyone in here have any idea why, when transferring files from an xp share, samba only transfers at like 300kBps
[04:26] <seth_k|lappy> I don't use a virus scanner or firewall
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> varsendagger, i use a guard dog
[04:26] <kvantti> crexor use the console to cd to /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless and see if there is a prism driver there
[04:26] <seth_k|lappy> no viruses for Linux that I care about, and I don't have any ports open for a firewall to protect
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> I just installed a normal install instead of expert
[04:27] <and> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5148   Does this matter? lol
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> how do I get actual root access?
[04:27] <kvantti> crexor those drivers are the one your system has stored without downloading necessary
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> Chainsaw_Master, sudo -s
[04:27] <and> Chainsaw_Master:  sudo
[04:27] <varsendagger> i think linux is securtity enough
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> I want reall access, I want su -
[04:27] <kvantti> Chainsaw_Master sudo -i from console enables you to have full root access
[04:27] <seth_k|lappy> and, how can you stand to use that nick... doesn't it get annoying to be pinged every 2sec
[04:27] <Chainsaw_Master> thanks
[04:28] <and> seth_k|lappy:  Not really.
[04:28] <and> seth_k|lappy:  I've also been 'the' and 'it' before.
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> and, why not try help ?
[04:28] <seth_k|lappy> haha
[04:28] <and> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5148     But how do I fix this?!
[04:28] <towsheba> Hell0 Channel
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> your name will be called every 20 sec
[04:29] <towsheba> Is some one willing to help me with blckbox universe?
[04:29] <stock> is there an ubuntu equivilent to gentoo's 'glsa-check' or freebsd's 'portaudit'?
[04:29] <benplaut> and why not?
[04:29] <towsheba> blackbox*
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> towsheba,  help in what way?
[04:29] <dabaR|food|patie> towsheba: did you ask the #blackbox, and what help is it?
[04:29] <and> wickedpuppy:  Because this place is helper...er..
[04:29] <towsheba> oh no sorry
[04:29] <towsheba> I have not
[04:30] <towsheba> I did not relise there was one
[04:30] <towsheba> thnk you
[04:30] <dabaR|food|patie> and: I would have definitely tell us what causes the error.
[04:30] <giany911> does any1 know a similar program to superkaramba?
[04:30] <arg|bx> ok, the installer is giving me a list of ONE kernel to install.. when i select it, it tells me linux-386 cannot be installed, and to check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log (which never seems to get created)
[04:30] <duke3z> where do i read about starting up ubuntu without Xserver?
[04:30] <and> dabaR:  when I open Synaptic
[04:30] <varsendagger> towsheba, what is up i use flux --- basically the same thing
[04:31] <arg|bx> so whats going on here?
[04:31] <and> dabaR:  Or do an apt-get
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> giany911,  gnome has 'gesklets'
[04:31] <dabaR> and: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin, please.
[04:31] <stock> duke3z, you can probably just update-rc.d -f gdm remove (or whatever it is that's starting x)
[04:31] <and> dabaR:  No wait..hold on..I think I might have fixed it
[04:31] <dabaR> and: good work.
[04:31] <duke3z> am still trying to install nvidia driver
[04:31] <stock> so, asked another way, is there a program i can get that will check all the packages i've installed via apt agaisnt ubuntu's security announcements?
[04:32] <dabaR> ubotu: tell duke3z about nvidia
[04:32] <duke3z> but my tears are blurring my vision lol
[04:32] <and> dabaR:  Had to apt-get update... let's see if it helped
[04:32] <towsheba> I have checked in to the #blackbox channel but no one is alive atm
[04:32] <dabaR> towsheba: they need time.
[04:32] <dabaR> towsheba: but, shoot...
[04:32] <and> WOOT I FIXED IT
[04:32] <bimberi> stock: just enable the ubuntu-security repositories and stay updated against them
[04:33] <towsheba> one second
[04:33] <badmacktuck> is there are firewall installed and running by default in breezy? i cant remember.
[04:33] <towsheba> got pm
[04:33] <Chainsaw_Master> is anyone with a solid and not very customized /etc/apt/sources.list kind enough to paste it somewhere and link me?
[04:33] <stock> bimberi, so comment out the rest of the stuff in sources.list?
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> !sources.list
[04:33] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:33] <arg|bx> any got any idea about this kernel thing?
[04:34] <bimberi> stock: no, apt should be set up to prioritise packages in that repository
[04:34] <bimberi> stock: ... set up by default that is (no action required)
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## distribution.
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## repository.
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[04:34] <stock> how will i know if something is updating because it's security related, as opposed to something new?
[04:34] <bimberi> argh!
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[04:34] <varsendagger> ## team.
[04:34] <dabaR> badmacktuck: yes, but it is open completely.
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:34] <varsendagger> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:35] <Toma-> oh dear
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Oh My.
[04:35] <nickrud> maybe that should scroll by now and then :)
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:35] <varsendagger> Chainsaw_Master, did you get that?
[04:35] <dabaR> varsendagger: we dont do that, remember?
[04:35] <badmacktuck> dabaR, im trying to figure out why my transfers to/from shares on my network  are sooo slow.
[04:35] <badmacktuck> dabaR, any ideas?
[04:35] <varsendagger> dabaR, do waht
[04:35] <Toma-> varsendagger: you know what a priavte message is?
[04:35] <dabaR> varsendagger: we dont paste in the channel.
[04:35] <Toma-> private even
[04:35] <varsendagger> i thought i did a /msg
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> LOL. :P
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[04:36] <varsendagger> sorry guys
[04:36] <Toma-> you might have done the first line.
[04:36] <bimberi> varsendagger: use /query <nick>
[04:36] <dabaR> badmacktuck: what does the network look like, network is just a name, the layout differs.
[04:36] <varsendagger> ----- jumps of a tall building
[04:36] <arg|bx> can anyone help with the installer?
[04:36] <Chainsaw_Master> yep
[04:36] <Chainsaw_Master> thanks :)
[04:37] <dabaR> varsendagger: good work:)
[04:37] <dabaR> arg|bx: why do you choose a kernel, I never did during install.
[04:37] <arg|bx> dabaR: expert install because of pre-existing partitions
[04:37] <badmacktuck> dabaR, the two comps are my breezy install with a 3com 10/100 and an xp box with marvell gigabit card. all connected using cat5e and a zyxel  5 port gigabit switch
[04:37] <WebLOCH> dabaR, where are you studying erds/databasing at the moment?  I would be interested in your reference materials if they are not private.
[04:38] <dabaR> arg|bx: on breezy?
[04:38] <arg|bx> dabaR: yes
[04:38] <kvantti> arg|bx have a look at the install information from the boot: menu your installer displays, and see if you need to give speciel parameters for the installer that match your hardware.
[04:38] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, its sexy isnt it?  Breezy knows about your gigabit.  It knows allllll about your gigabit.
[04:38] <arg|bx> it never creates the logfile i'm supposed to look at
[04:38] <dabaR> WebLOCH: well, not atm, but this term, UofW. They are not private, the prof notes. I can even get you the book in e fornmat that Iscanned onto my web site.
[04:38] <WebLOCH> ooh
[04:39] <WebLOCH> dabaR, just about any format is good, I like to keep ahold of good ref materials
[04:39] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, thats the problem. it doesnt becuase the breezy box is not gigabit
[04:39] <arg|bx> kvantti: i don't have any particular problems with debian or knoppix on the same hardware
[04:39] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck,  harsh luck buddy
[04:39] <kvantti> arg|bx ubuntu is a different system. just a hint.
[04:39] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, time to get a new card methinks
[04:39] <arg|bx> kvantti: aye, to a point. not so much so that the d-i should not create a log file
[04:40] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, depends on if you need it or not, but if you got the cash spare, no reason not to!
[04:40] <Toma-> arg|bx: why are u using the expert install?
[04:40] <bimberi> arg|bx: the normal install will still let you choose partitions
[04:40] <ChocoPanda> yo
[04:40] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, is there a chipset i should look for. never bought networking equipment for linux
[04:41] <indigirl1> man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system     why am i getting this error?
[04:41] <kvantti> arg|bx my point is, that you could try to look those F-menu items. the installer could bug with your hardware, for example my rt2500 is not identified by the installer, but the system detects it just fine..
[04:41] <kvantti> arg|bx and kernel is very hardware related
[04:41] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, i have two onboard gigabit adapters ill check them now
[04:41] <dabaR> arg|bx: what is the partition layout?
[04:41] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, thank you sir
[04:42] <arg|bx> dabaR: what info do you want to know? there are 21 partitions...
[04:42] <jeff303> can someone explain what dist-upgrade is, when upgrading to breezy?  is it a meta package?
[04:42] <indigirl1> jeff303: not a package, it's just a command to apt-get
[04:42] <stock> how can i list all installed packages?
[04:42] <jeff303> indigirl1: but that comes after changing the repositories to point to breezy, then marking upgrade, yes?
[04:42] <kvantti> jeff303 dist-upgrade is a predefined "script" the aptitude uses which allows you to upgrade your distribution without having to "install" anything
[04:42] <indigirl1> stock: dpkg -l
[04:42] <stock> oh, thanks
[04:42] <rixth> What do you do if apt-get seg faults apart from cry?
[04:42] <dabaR> arg|bx: you dont need to run "expert" install to manually edit the partition tables. the default "enter" install doees that too.
[04:43] <bimberi> stock: dpkg -l | grep ii
[04:43] <arg|bx> bimberi: so it will use partitions i created for it, without disturbing existing ones, in normal install mode?
[04:43] <stock> ah, okay, that makes more sense
[04:43] <indigirl1> jeff303: thats true yes. and first do a     apt-get update
[04:43] <arg|bx> i also don't want ubuntu writing lilo
[04:43] <jeff303> indigirl1:  same as running the auto-update gui, correct?
[04:43] <kvantti> jeff303 but you must have your sources defined in synaptic, since it wont work if it does not know where to get the material
[04:43] <indigirl1> jeff303: in synaptic, yes right
[04:43] <bimberi> arg|bx: yes, just choose manual partitioning when asked
[04:43] <jeff303> indigirl1:  ok thanks
[04:44] <dabaR> badmacktuck: that sounds fine, but I dont know how samba really works, but I would not expect the protocol itself to slow down considerably. You can flush your iptables rules. sudo iptables --flush. That makes sure you dont have some firewall thing set up. Otherwise, if you have checked both computers for firewalls, likely a hardware issue.
[04:44] <treitter> nice.. just got a giant bag of Ubuntu love :)
[04:44] <stock> if the computer is headless, but acts as an xserver for clients, i don't need all the xserver-* packages, do i?
[04:44] <jeff303> I followed the instructions on the wiki which said to change the "main restricted" us repository from hoary to breezy
[04:44] <bimberi> arg|bx: ... and specify which ones you want as /, /boot (or whatever)
[04:44] <jeff303> kvantti: sorry meant that for you
[04:44] <indigirl1> jeff303: yes just change all occurences of the word hoary to breezy
[04:45] <Alex`> Woohoo, I installed Ubuntu 5.01 on my 12 year old mac clone w/64MB RAM, 2GB HD, and a 210MHz 604e.
[04:45] <badmacktuck> dabaR, thank you. someday i hope to be answering questions in here
[04:45] <kvantti> jeff303 yes, and you can just go ahead and define the updates and security too while you are at it
[04:45] <dabaR> jeff303: that is right, dist-uipgrade is a command line command, and not for synaptic.
[04:45] <Alex`> Firefox even ran on that thing, I was impressed.
[04:45] <dabaR> badmacktuck: I answer even though I dont have a clue mostly:P...
[04:45] <arg|bx> bimberi: right, thats what i've done with the expert install. it did whine about "rather strange layouts" on some of the partitions, but none of the ones i want it involved with
[04:45] <kvantti> jeff303 i have the updates and security defined to official, which is "main restricted" i think
[04:45] <badmacktuck> hahaha
[04:45] <Rex_> dabaR: I got disconnected. We had just established that I could ping both computers from the other. Any other ideas?
[04:46] <jeff303> so, are the dist-upgrade and changing repositories in synaptic mutually exclusive, or do I need to do them both?
[04:46] <dabaR> former
[04:46] <indigirl1> jeff303: same place, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:46] <bimberi> arg|bx: ah, k, i'm also wondering if it could be a bad CD (or burned from a bad ISO)
[04:46] <dabaR> if done properly.
[04:46] <indigirl1> jeff303: synaptic just grabs its info from that file
[04:46] <kvantti> jeff303 you must do both to get it done, but the system is basically under the same subsystem
[04:46] <dabaR> treitter: what payments did you have to make(customs...)
[04:46] <kvantti> jeff303 since
[04:47] <indigirl1> jeff303: only do one really
[04:47] <treitter> dabaR: I didn't pay anything
[04:47] <bimberi> arg|bx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto (although if you're playing with partitions you'll probably know most of that :) )
[04:47] <pussfeller> why is xine saying it cant play mp3s?
[04:47] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, the first is an intel PCIe Gigabit LAN, the other is Marvel 88E8001
[04:48] <arg|bx> bimberi: well, i *did* merely assume that the iso was ok :)
[04:48] <arg|bx> not realy pleased that i had to burn it to disk in the first place
[04:48] <dabaR> treitter: we are working on convincing the Croatian customs authorities to allow for free entry of that into Croatia(well, Im not there, but ubuntu users from there are)
[04:48] <jeff303> ok makes more sense, thanks everybody
[04:48] <bimberi> arg|bx: :)
[04:48] <indigirl1> pussfeller: xine the frontend needs plugins to play files. looks for a xine-mp3 plugin package (or something similar)
[04:49] <indigirl1> !starter guide
[04:49] <ubotu> indigirl1: Syntax error in line 1
[04:49] <kvantti> arg|bx if you download is giving errors, you can get those free shiny inst discs from shipit.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <indigirl1> !starter-guide
[04:49] <ubotu> indigirl1: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:49] <indigirl1> !starterguide
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, starterguide is http://help.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <indigirl1> pussfeller: check the installer guide for info like that, it is very helpful
[04:49] <badmacktuck> WebLOCH, thanks, duly noted. im out for the night.
[04:49] <kvantti> arg|bx and do use md5sum to confirm your iso anyway.
[04:49] <arg|bx> kvantti: well, its kubuntu actually
[04:49] <WebLOCH> badmacktuck, sleep well
[04:50] <arg|bx> hmm, the packages file seems to fail verification :/
[04:50] <etzerd> hello all
[04:50] <Fushi> Heyo
[04:50] <kvantti> arg|bx on my system, the kde desktop crashed after 3 minutes of usage, so i really dont trust kubuntu
[04:50] <etzerd> is this ubuntu chanel?
[04:50] <rixth> Okay, I tried to ask a 'smart' question but got ignored. Please guys- I'm needing help here! == apt-get is segfaulting. I have rebooted, reseated my memory, still faults. What should I try now?
[04:50] <indigirl1> etzerd: of course
[04:51] <Fushi> Yes this is:o
[04:51] <arg|bx> kvantti: hmm, that doesn't sound nice
[04:51] <indigirl1> rixth: does synaptic give a helpful error message?
[04:51] <rixth> indigirl1, I use the commandline, and no, it does not
[04:52] <stock> is it only apt-get that segfaults?
[04:52] <kvantti> arg|bx ubuntu has given me 1 crash in 5.04, and that was by the help system. talk about reliability..
[04:52] <rixth> Reading package lists... Done
[04:52] <rixth> Segmentation faulty tree... 50%
[04:52] <rixth> Not helpful at all!
[04:52] <treitter> dabaR: I'm sure there are other countries require customs fees. I wonder how those countries are handled
[04:52] <stock> hmmm
[04:52] <stock> is that a segfault?
[04:52] <arg|bx> kvantti: aye, whereas debian hasn't crashed on me in 5 years....
[04:52] <arg|bx> save for kdm being a bit stupid from time to time
[04:53] <dabaR> arg|bx: well, the system here is not crashing either...
[04:53] <fizzle> hey i got ubuntu but when i installed it before it ran slow because i only have 128mb of memory. is there any way to free memory to make it run smoother?
[04:53] <kvantti> arx|bx have a shot with ubuntu. the kde is something i think which is more windows-accustomed people by the looks of it.
[04:53] <Rex_> Anyone else have any ideas how I can access a Windows folder that I think I'm sharing over the network under Ubuntu, or why the "Places" -> "Network servers" dialog doesn't seem to be working for this?
[04:54] <arg|bx> kvantti: i develop a kde app :)
[04:54] <kvantti> fizzle since the minimun is 96, i believe you are running at the edge of ram. i would buy something like 512 if i were you
[04:54] <Xenguy> fizzle: you can try running xfce4 for a leaner desktop environment, but those bloated apps like OOo will never run fast on older hardware unforutnately
[04:54] <arg|bx> how do i get the regular installer to forget about the network interface?
[04:54] <indigirl1> rixth: one post from google search says works for them:   delete /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[04:54] <fizzle> kvantti; yeah i agree but RDRAM costs too much for me
[04:54] <fizzle> im on a p4 1.5ghz
[04:55] <fizzle> i usually use fluxbox but for some reason fluxbox locks up in ubuntu
[04:55] <dabaR> arg|bx: forget how? there is an option.
[04:55] <stock> rixth, http://hamsterrepublic.com/james/linux/index.php
[04:55] <stock> the answer seems to be there
[04:55] <dabaR> fizzle: use openbox, if you will.
[04:55] <Xenguy> fizzle: that sounds like sufficient hardware to me
[04:55] <dabaR> fizzle: it is in universe.
[04:55] <indigirl1> rixth: i searched google.com/linux for segmentation faulty tree. you might want to try that for more info
[04:55] <arg|bx> dabaR: it wants me to choose one of eth0, eth1 or usb
[04:55] <rixth> Wow! Much love for indigirl1!
[04:55] <Xenguy> fizzle: anyway, xfce4 is worth a look
[04:55] <rixth> Thanks!
[04:55] <kvantti> arg|bx when it has attempted dhcp configuration, you can select "do not configure at this time" and a tweak to make that possible is to disconnect your dsl modem from the interface, which makes the config impossible
[04:56] <dabaR> kvantti: what what what?(kyle's mom) no, you can have it all connected.
[04:56] <arg|bx> kvantti: you're right, i must have been too quick on the enter key :)
[04:56] <indigirl1> rixth: sounds like that worked then
[04:57] <rixth> indigirl1, sure did. thank you
[04:57] <indigirl1> great
[04:57] <kvantti> dabaR well at least it can be done by disallowing the configuration with the option
[04:57] <benguin> hi there
[04:57] <dabaR> kvantti: that part yes.
[04:58] <benguin> anyone has a laptop with an ATI IXP soundcard?
[04:58] <indigirl1> benguin: i do. toshiba satellite
[04:58] <kvantti> dabaR i only use wlan and the setup is a bit different for me..
[04:58] <benguin> hi indigirl1 ..
[04:58] <benguin> indigirl1: do you use skype on linux?
[04:58] <indigirl1> benguin: no have not tried it on linux
[04:58] <snausages> skype is so bad on ubuntu
[04:58] <benguin> I am having a few problems with audio on my Pavilion ZX5000.
[04:58] <snausages> and probably every other distro
[04:59] <indigirl1> benguin: be specific
[04:59] <benguin> I have followed the alsa-esd howto to support multiple programs with sound simultaneously
[04:59] <benguin> i am, indigirl1 .. just laying the background
[04:59] <benguin> I also have a winmodem, that i don't use..
[04:59] <benguin> but alsa picks up that device as a sound card
[05:00] <arg|bx> ok, partitionner running...
[05:00] <benguin> loads the snd_atiixp_modem driver
[05:00] <dabaR> benguin: if you post in one line, that is better, cause then anyone can read it...
[05:00] <indigirl1> benguin: you probably know winmodems are notorious in linux.
[05:00] <benguin> koay dabaR
[05:00] <benguin> and indigirl1 : yes, i know. I don't use that modem.
[05:00] <arg|bx> ..and whining about strange layouts on my debian partitions...
[05:01] <varsendagger> arg|bx, why the debate between ubuntu and debian?
[05:01] <arg|bx> varsendagger: debate?
[05:01] <indigirl1> benguin: if esd is a sound server you may want to try without that for testing
[05:01] <benguin> okay, all in one line. when i call someone or receive a call in skype, the person at the other end can hear me cleanly. I cannot hear the other end, however. I get loads of noise on my headphone or speaker output.
[05:02] <jnymo> are there less troden ubuntu channels?
[05:02] <benguin> indigirl1: i do not run esd. I did a killall esd before testing.
[05:02] <arg|bx> jnymo: that depends on what a troden is
[05:02] <jnymo> arg|bx: traffic
[05:02] <indigirl1> benguin: have you tried it with different people?
[05:02] <pussfeller> so why doesnt xine play mp3s anymore, i thot 32codecs gave xine mp3 power
[05:03] <benguin> indigirl1: yes i have
[05:03] <arg|bx> jnymo: ahh. well, busy is better than silent :)
[05:03] <indigirl1> pussfeller: use xmms to play mp3
[05:03] <jnymo> arg|bx: very true..
[05:03] <rixth> One more question. How can I get the address bar back in Nautilus? It has dissapear. I miss being able to type "smb://hostname"
[05:03] <indigirl1> pussfeller: w32codecs is not for mp3 files i dont think
[05:03] <pussfeller> i need xine as an engine for amarok
[05:04] <indigirl1> pussfeller: i think amarok can use other engines
[05:04] <kvantti> a little of a hint. if you are low on cash and need a 5.1 system, the zalman theatre 6 5.1 headset is about 30-40 bucks..
[05:04] <dabaR> pussfeller: read pms from ubotu
[05:04] <kvantti> i really find this hardware to be excellent..
[05:04] <pussfeller> i know, i want xine , gstreamer not good yet
[05:04] <benguin> indigirl1: one additional thing, if it is of any value: I have used skype under hoary. without problems.
[05:04] <kvantti> pussfeller try out vlc..
[05:04] <pppoe_dude> lol... #windows
[05:04] <reter> i am having trouble with synaptic. it is not taking my passwords. what do i need to do?
[05:04] <pussfeller> i have lame and all that
[05:04] <towsheba> Hell0 again
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> reter, u mean when you open it up?
[05:05] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: hey whats happenin its me n0odl3
[05:05] <indigirl1> reter: why does synaptic need a password?
[05:05] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: how do i fix keys again?
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, wasap?
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, lol u seriuos?
[05:06] <indigirl1> benguin: try an earlier version of skype maybe
[05:06] <reter> indigirl1, i dont know why it needs a password. it always ask for one and then it rejects it
[05:06] <pppoe_dude> reter, you prolly enabled a root account, try from a commandline: gksu synaptic
[05:06] <reter> pppoe_dude, yes when i try to open it
[05:06] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: yeah i dont know where i put my notes
[05:06] <benguin> indigirl1: okay, will do.
[05:06] <indigirl1> reter: to become root maybe. thats not a problem with synaptic.
[05:06] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: what was the command? gpgkeyserve
[05:06] <benguin> indigirl1: wondering if this is just skype or the soundcard itself
[05:06] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, is it with the same server?
[05:07] <indigirl1> reter: set your root passwd      sudo passwd root
[05:07] <indigirl1> reter: on the command line
[05:07] <reter> unknown id gksu
[05:07] <indigirl1> benguin: not the soundcard because you said it worked earlier
[05:07] <kvantti> i wonder where one enables 5.1 output in the vlc setup. the program is crowded with options and i cant find that option..
[05:07] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: no but i just want to know it for refrence if you dont mind ^-^
[05:07] <arg|bx> bimberi: i have no idea why it was stopping before, the simple installer seems to have gone right on by the kernel installation...
[05:07] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys [key number] 
[05:08] <benguin> indigirl1: yeah i know.. maybe the alsa or something.. oh well. thanks for the help.
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> apt-key add ~/pubring.gpg
[05:08] <indigirl1> benguin: try without alsa
[05:08] <arg|bx> hopefully it hasn't trompped on the mbr
[05:08] <indigirl1> benguin: try out oss
[05:08] <kvantti> benguin you can install gnome-alsamixer which is much better than the default mixer tool
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, *apt-key add ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[05:08] <benguin> indigirl1: why oss, may i ask?
[05:08] <indigirl1> benguin: i wonder if you have volumes too high. look around in alsamixer for mutes and volumes
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, all as root or with sudo
[05:08] <benguin> kvantti: thanks, will check
[05:09] <indigirl1> benguin: try oss to see if alsa is a problem
[05:09] <benguin> indigirl1: checked everything. volumes are as normal as it can be
[05:09] <pppoe_dude> reter, why don't you just use apt-get?
[05:09] <benguin> indigirl1: i load the alsa oss emulation module. is that enough?
[05:09] <arg|bx> molasses uphill running
[05:09] <indigirl1> benguin: emulation sounds like a bad word. you want pure stuff when testing or troubleshooting
[05:10] <bimberi> arg|bx: k, that's strange but good i guess :)
[05:10] <benguin> indigirl1: okay, i don't have OSS compiled in this kernel. will check it out.
[05:10] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: cool thanx. have you ever heard of polyphasic sleep?
[05:10] <indigirl1> reter: yea try apt-get instead. its much more responsive
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, whats that?
[05:11] <sethk> benguin, you want to use the OSS compatibility part of ALSA.  Don't compile OSS into the kernel
[05:11] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: its when you sleep 15-30 every four hours instead of sleeping 8 hrs strait
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> anyone noticed with firefox 1.0.7 the following bug?: pressing the back button twice quickly results in a crash
[05:11] <benguin> sethk: thats what i did
[05:12] <arg|bx> bimberi: i guess, but after you mentioned verifying the iso i asked the d-i to check the cd integrity.. it failed instantly..
[05:12] <indigirl1> benguin: thats right. no need to recompile kernel. you dont want the outdated stuff.
[05:12] <rixth> n0dl, Don't I remember you coming into #ubuntu yesterday with the nickanme 'RICK_JAMES_BITCH'?
[05:12] <sethk> benguin, just making sure.  OSS is still there, and that would definitely be a mistake.  :)
[05:12] <kvantti> sethk the oss is not active if you don't select it as output method. is there some reason not to have oss available?
[05:12] <indigirl1> benguin: sorry if i told you wrong
[05:12] <benguin> indigirl1: thats why i was kinda confused with ODD
[05:12] <benguin> OSS rather
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, interesting... i bet it results in more dreaming.... but prolly needs a lot of determination
[05:12] <n0dl> rixth: that wasnt me that was bored2k
[05:12] <n0dl> pppoe_dude: lol well imma try it out now
[05:12] <sethk> kvantti, I think there are probably cases where oss is the default and the newer ALSA interface is better.
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> lol
[05:13] <sethk> kvantti, so if oss is available you don't get the optimal result
[05:13] <bimberi> arg|bx: ah, but it's installing anyway?
[05:13] <rixth> n0dl, he had the same hostname & username as you...
[05:13] <benguin> indigirl1,sethk: no pure OSS support at all in this kernel. I have alsa compatibility modules loaded
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> yo you guys should see #windows... its hilarious
[05:13] <indigirl1> benguin: amarok is kde based right? i remember having sound problems with kde stuff. i would unload kde
[05:13] <benguin> snd_pcm_oss
[05:13] <arg|bx> bimberi: yes
[05:13] <sethk> benguin, that should do it
[05:13] <benguin> indigirl1: i use gnome. no trace of kde here
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> but i guess out of respect i shouldnt say that
[05:13] <n0dl> rixth: sorry that wasnt me that was bored2k trust me
[05:13] <n0dl> rixth:  you can go to ubuntu forums and ask
[05:13] <n0dl> if you want
[05:13] <rixth> n0dl, nope I believe you
[05:14] <kvantti> sethk so it improves quality if oss is not available? that is very strange since the audio system should not use oss in any way if alsa is selected to my intuition atleast
[05:14] <indigirl1> benguin: well if sound in other apps works and skype doesnt then i would go after skype cause thats your problem. try an earlier version of skype
[05:14] <n0dl> rixth: have you heard of polyphasic sleep by any chance?
[05:14] <Ep|phany> anyone here know how i can reinstall audio drivers?
[05:14] <bimberi> arg|bx: well that's ... um ... interesting :)
[05:14] <benguin> indigirl1: I will post something in the skype forum, see what happens
[05:14] <sethk> kvantti, My memory may not be correct on this, so check it out.  There are apps that do things themselves rather than let the audio system do it for them.  This is an error, of course, but such apps exist.
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> "I cant
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> , i'm not a major windows guy :)"
[05:15] <benguin> indigirl1, sethk: just was wondering if anyone else has the same problem
[05:15] <arg|bx> bimberi: well, it could be the d-i doesn't do the verification properly after the installer has started
[05:15] <sethk> benguin, you can be certain that lots of other people have the same problem, absolutely.
[05:15] <kvantti> i have this problem that i keep waking up at 3-4 am every now and then..but do talk about medicine in #ubuntu-offtopic i believe :)
[05:15] <arg|bx> bimberi: i tried to run it a second time but it wouldn't admit the cd was an ubuntu cd
[05:15] <benguin> sethk: that'd make me happy, in a kinda sadistic way. maybe they'll fix it soon.
[05:16] <ecobuntu> !javadebs
[05:16] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:16] <benguin> sethk: my desktop has SB Live!, runs breezy too. No problems with skype there.
[05:16] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: why would you reinstall drivers?
[05:16] <sethk> benguin, you would have to search for a long, long time to find a problem that other people don't have and you do.
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, polyphasic sleep will prolly do some damage, as your brain wouldn't get a chance to enter crucial stages of sleep
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> n0dl, your immune system gets a boost during deep sleep, which unfortunately you wont reach that way ;)
[05:16] <sethk> pppoe_dude, what?  I can't concentrate on such a long sentence, because of my sleep disruption
[05:17] <arg|bx> yay, nice to see it asked before eating the mbr :)
[05:17] <kvantti> ppoe_dude yeah something is obviously wrong with me too since i feel extremely tired all the time but i still cant sleep
[05:17] <alekz> how can i change a profile in firefox ?
[05:17] <towsheba> Hell0..once again
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, have you tried turning your computer off :P?
[05:18] <towsheba> No one is alive in #fluxbox and I wanted to know if there is any one willing to help me with the fluxbox right click menu
[05:18] <kvantti> ppoe_dude hehehe i have played ancient domains of mystery for the last 8 years so not very often ;)
[05:18] <TheBeast> towsheba: you cd ~/.fluxbox and you edit the "menu" file which is present in that directory according to your needs
[05:19] <towsheba> thnk you
[05:19] <arg|bx> err, checking all filesystems :(
[05:19] <threeseas> what other type of things can cause ubuntu installed to freeze up besides acpi and powernowd ?
[05:19] <pppoe_dude> its fun to experiment with sleep tho... www.lucidity.com
[05:19] <TheBeast> you most likely already have some entries, so follow the syntax
[05:20] <kvantti> so is it really true that ext3 does not fragmentate at all..?
[05:20] <TheBeast> [exec]  (THIS IS MY COOL ENTRY) {/usr/bin/firefox}
[05:20] <cast> does ubuntu ship with xen support?
[05:20] <Ep|phany> anyone know how to reinstallthe defualt audio drivers?
[05:20] <TheBeast> it'll launch firefox
[05:20] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, it probably does to a lesser extent, but theres no apparent way to defragment it
[05:20] <towsheba> Damnit I need to quit closing things
[05:20] <indigirl1> alekz: change it how? like create a new one? create a new linux user and login from that username
[05:21] <indigirl1> threeseas: anything can cause a freeze
[05:21] <towsheba> cd ~/ .fluxbox is what you said correct? TheBeast:
[05:22] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: what do you mean by reinstall? and why would you want to?
[05:22] <kvantti> ppoe_dude so that would mean that the need to not reinstall ubuntu ever is not that black and white?
[05:22] <WebLOCH> nighty all
[05:22] <leilson> Ola
[05:22] <trigg3r> hello
[05:22] <WebLOCH> thanks again dabaR
[05:22] <indigirl1> kvantti: reinstall will rarely fix a problem. thats just avoiding the problem
[05:22] <trigg3r> quick q: how do you access samba shares from the CLI?
[05:22] <majyk> anyone have any problems where their sound card was working fine then just stopped working (5.10)?
[05:23] <towsheba> well it would help is my bbconfig package was not broken :P
[05:23] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, i think that ext3 is self-maintaining, and when you run fsck, delete files, add new files, etc... it repairs itself to a certain extent
[05:23] <cast> majyk: changed the kernel?
[05:23] <Ep|phany> well see what happened was i installed this gstream0.8-mad thing so i could use mp3s in amorok but when i did that it uninstalled something and now i can only change the volume on master and not the volume for pc speakers and the sound icon shows it as mute
[05:23] <majyk> cast, I haven't changed anything
[05:23] <indigirl1> majyk: tons of people have had that problem im sure
[05:23] <threeseas> indigirl1: in other words ubuntu is no where near as stable as other distrobutions?
[05:23] <Ep|phany> indigirll read the above
[05:23] <indigirl1> threeseas: of course its as stable. its based on debian
[05:23] <kvantti> ppoe_dude allright that relieved much
[05:24] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: thats not a driver problem
[05:24] <majyk> I get no errors trying to play music, I just get no sound. I've looked at the mixer and it is not muted
[05:24] <cast> indigirl1: yes but is it based on debian stable? ;)
[05:24] <trigg3r> any takers please? how can I access SMB shares via CLI?
[05:24] <aedes> trigg3r, smbclient
[05:24] <Ep|phany> indigirll what type of problem is it?
[05:24] <trigg3r> aedes: this is all CLI?
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> majyk, is esd running? i think its a bit buggy... try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, then sudo esd&
[05:25] <threeseas> indigirl1: not correct, I've run other debain based distros and never have I had so many freeze and lockup problems
[05:25] <kvantti> ppoea_dude fsck warns me that it should not be run since my part is mounted, so could you explain me how it would be possible to run it safely?
[05:25] <towsheba> so any one here seen the syphany os unique desktop?
[05:25] <tritium> threeseas, ubuntu is stable
[05:25] <towsheba> it is quite a bute
[05:25] <indigirl1> threeseas: it just depends what causes the freezes. be specific what youre doing when they happen
[05:25] <choudesh> towsheba, yes.
[05:25] <kvantti> ubuntu is superior in it's stability. in crash in 5.04 for me
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, sure, do you have root enabled?
[05:26] <trigg3r> aedes: hold on, gonna try that out..thanks!
[05:26] <kvantti> ppoea_dude i just use sudo -i . would the command be unmount dev/hda2?
[05:26] <cast> keep in mind people stable is a relative term, one persons stable is anothers testing. as ubuntu shows
[05:26] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: software problem. youre not locked into amarok and gstreamer. there are tons of ways to play mp3 files. xmms, mp3blaster, alsaplay. alsamixer can adjust your volumes. just try other programs if youre stuck.
[05:26] <boa-chan> i installed sshd, i just don't know how to run it. can annyone lend me a hand.
[05:26] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, no you should restart the system in single user mode (init 1 as root... you can try sudo init 1 - warning it will close everything)
[05:26] <majyk> pppoe_dude, when I restart alsa-utils I get an error saying it cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing, but it does restart it
[05:27] <Ep|phany> indigirll its not a problem with software its a problem trying to adjust the volumefor everything
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> kvantti, then umount / and fsck /dev/hda
[05:27] <kvantti> ppoe_dude thanks for the basic
[05:27] <indigirl1> boa-chan: there must be a tutorial for that. also look in /usr/share/doc/sshd for help.
[05:27] <majyk> pppoe_dude, forget that, I forgot sudo
[05:28] <indigirl1> boa-chan: and maybe there is a sshd-doc package for more documentation
[05:28] <boa-chan> theres nothing under /doc for sshd
[05:28] <kvantti> these tunes at shoutcast.com digitally imported/ambient chillout really rock..i dont really see why someone has to have that 100 gig mp3 collection..
[05:29] <threeseas> ubuntu live has no problem with using its acx wireless driver on my system, by the installed ubuntu can't ... lock up/freeze have been addressed by disabling acpi and powernowd and on the ubuntu forums board there seems to be other things that can cause it. I don't find these sort of lockup problems being discussed on distros like knoppix, college linux or even outright debain...
[05:29] <indigirl1> boa-chan: apt-get install sshd-doc     if that package exists
[05:29] <boa-chan> k
[05:29] <boa-chan> nope
[05:29] <boa-chan> doesnt
[05:29] <boa-chan> heh
[05:29] <pppoe_dude> doesnt ubuntu stability depend heavily on the kernel? so i think it's unfair to call ubuntu (or any other distro for that matter) "unstable"
[05:29] <dabaR> no not really.
[05:30] <threeseas> I still have lockups, but it seems to takle less time before it happens
[05:30] <dabaR> depends on how you define stability.
[05:30] <indigirl1> Ep|phany: where do you adjust sound from? inside amarok or from a mixer program? i would suggest using a mixer program, for example alsamixer, or something similar
[05:30] <kvantti> yeah, a software that is at version 10 is rarely unstable..but gnome is much stable than kde to my experience, and every piece of software is a part of the system..so stability does not depend solely on the system ever
[05:30] <sophie_> pppoe_dude: stability is a lot often related to configuration
[05:30] <Toma-> what speed does a 802.11b wifi transfer at? in bytes
[05:31] <boa-chan> haw
[05:31] <boa-chan> get wireless g
[05:31] <boa-chan> so much faster
[05:31] <Toma-> yes. but i have a b.
[05:31] <mpm2> not for internet boa-chan
[05:31] <indigirl1> Toma-: 11mbits/sec maybe
[05:31] <boa-chan> b are maxed at 11 mbps i think
[05:31] <kvantti> Toma- i believe that 11 meg is maximum..i got 54 meg 11g ..
[05:31] <Toma-> info plz not an opinion
[05:31] <Toma-> hmmm ok
[05:31] <boa-chan> mpm2, im referring to lan speed.
[05:31] <Toma-> thanks :)
[05:31] <cast> pppoe_dude: of course it does. the stability of a system is the sum of its parts, if any part is unstable that renders the whole system unstable. thus its just to call the system unstable, and fwiw there are other kernels around ;), not to mention more tried versions then 2.6
[05:32] <pppoe_dude> sophie_, true, however usually you can still render a different distro "unstable" by making a similar configuration... i think it boils down to the ideas in the distro
[05:32] <reter> i am trying to upgrade to breezy and it told me that it needs 476mb from archives. what do i do?
[05:32] <Pirogeth> Is there a howto somewhere on how to compile an ubuntu kernel with GRSEC?
[05:32] <mpm2> I guess most people here are informed, but so many people are deceived by advertising to believe that the 'g' standard will give them faster internet
[05:32] <reter> it is unable to upgrade until it gets 476mb free from archives
[05:32] <indigirl1> kvantti: the tunes from the bb program are pretty cool. and i think its just midi!
[05:32] <pppoe_dude> cast, so we're really talking about the system being unstable "out-of-the-box"?
[05:32] <threeseas> look thru the ubuntu forums board... compair what you find there with other distro decussion - I wish ubunti was more stable than it apparently is, as there are things I do like about it... but its not helping to promote it (as media stories recently have) as being business ready --- doesn't give a good impression for linux in general...
[05:33] <dabaR> reter: that is the upgrade, use the Internet.
[05:33] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: are u trolling?
[05:33] <tritium> mpm2, the speed increase is between the wireless card and the router
[05:33] <angryBeaver> hi - I have a weird problem - my desktop is shifted over about 4 pixels or so.  I'm on a laptop with 1024x768 native res.  Is there a way to shift the screen?
[05:33] <dabaR> pah, that threeseas sentence is a stupid one.
[05:33] <kvantti> mpm2 for me the antennea and ubuntu is the key to good performance..windows if at all comparable gave me 25% strenght, and on the ubuntu drivers, the reliability is much better. also make sure to enable frame bursting if possible
[05:34] <Pirogeth> I am trying to figure out how to apply GRSec to the ubuntu kernel. Is there a guide somewhere on how to add grsec to ubuntu?
[05:34] <dabaR> just completely a selfishly put sentence, as if we care about his "business needs"
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> Toma-, not really... just trying to be a bit philosophical... which could be in your terms considered "trolling"
[05:34] <tritium> he's just trolling, dabaR
[05:34] <dabaR> right
[05:34] <angryBeaver> hi - I have a weird problem - my desktop is shifted over about 4 pixels or so.  I'm on a laptop with 1024x768 native res.  Is there a way to shift the screen?
[05:34] <Toma-> philosophy in a help channel... :)
[05:34] <boa-chan> lol
[05:34] <boa-chan> i've seen worse
[05:34] <Toma-> angryBeaver: have you tried using your monitor?
[05:34] <boa-chan> and i got sshd to run
[05:34] <boa-chan> thanks
[05:34] <boa-chan> and mpm2
[05:34] <indigirl1> Pirogeth: im guessing youve tried a search for   ubuntu grsec   at google.com/linux
[05:34] <boa-chan> wifi g is faster for lan speeds
[05:35] <boa-chan> not internet speeds
[05:35] <Pirogeth> indigirl1: i have, and had no luck so far =/
[05:35] <angryBeaver> no - don't have a monitor where I am right now
[05:35] <kvantti> this channel is about the community and aid in the community. what would opinions and phisolophy not be if not aid on the intellectual part of the ubuntu system?
[05:35] <Toma-> and yes, my b wifi is only for connecting to the net. no lan fun here
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> nice... the term 'trolling' was used in the same time period in two different cases just now
[05:35] <boa-chan> heh
[05:35] <boa-chan> then b is more than enuf
[05:35] <boa-chan> but i must use g
[05:36] <mpm2> anyone experienced with getmail??
[05:36] <angryBeaver> is there somewhere you can tweak display settings other than just the resolution and standard stuff
[05:36] <boa-chan> i use it to transfer tsuff from my server pc
[05:36] <boa-chan> which is over 1 gb
[05:36] <boa-chan> err
[05:36] <angryBeaver> it's a laptop, so I can't adjust it there
[05:36] <boa-chan> 1tb*
[05:36] <Toma-> angryBeaver: with the xorg.conf file, but dont go tweaking stuff you dont understand, otherwise it will leave your laptop in ruins
[05:37] <boa-chan> heh
[05:37] <DavidLeeRoth> is a driver for the ATi Radeon X700 included in the ubuntu cd?
[05:37] <boa-chan> he could gry his lcd too
[05:37] <boa-chan> fry
[05:37] <ubuntu> ???
[05:37] <angryBeaver> It's a laptop - there aren't any controls for the display
[05:37] <boa-chan> DavidLeeRoth, http://www.ati.com
[05:37] <indigirl1> angryBeaver: xvidtune    maybe, although its warning is scary
[05:37] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, yes, fglrx
[05:38] <varsendagger> anyone get xmms-mplayer plugin working?
[05:38] <tritium> boa-chan, there are fglrx packages.  No need for going to ati's website
[05:38] <kvantti> DavidLeeRot the generic radeon drivers should work, as x11 drivers has support for my card as well as many others
[05:38] <angryBeaver> It's an old compaq that I've revived from Windows ME Hell
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> thank you all
[05:38] <DavidLeeRoth> YANKEE ROSE
[05:38] <boa-chan> tritium, ok.
[05:38] <sethk> DavidLeeRoth, I have a laptop with radeon, it works reasonably well
[05:38] <indigirl1> DavidLeeRoth: install the fglrx driver i think
[05:38] <choudesh> angryBeaver, Windows ME Hell? I think Hell would have been much nicer.
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> gnome-video-thumbnailer takes up a lot of resources
[05:39] <kvantti> i got excellent performance with my nvidia card and i dont see that x11 is any poorer than forceware
[05:39] <angryBeaver> choudesh, true.  very true
[05:39] <alex__> Can someone help me with a network permissions problem?
[05:39] <tritium> !tell DavidLeeRoth about ati
[05:39] <indigirl1> alex__: dont ask to ask just ask
[05:39] <Reid> does anyone know how to configure an xserver?
[05:39] <DShepherd> hey
[05:40] <alex__> I have a share on a windows machine with music and the such. I can't seem to get write permissions from this machine
[05:40] <indigirl1> Reid: be specific. configure what how?
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> Reid, what kind of configuration are you looking for?
[05:40] <Toma-> alex__: what network protocol u using?
[05:40] <Reid> i'm not sure
[05:40] <alex__> Samba
[05:40] <aedes> some one needs to make an anjuta package for Ubuntu
[05:40] <Reid> it errors out and says 'run drm again when xserver is configured correctly
[05:40] <Reid> '
[05:40] <benguin> hi again
[05:40] <cast> aedes: well get to work ;p
[05:40] <paxmaster> how could I make my ati working so my brother will use linux
[05:41] <_jason> aedes, isn't there one?
[05:41] <benguin> indigirl1, sethk : just to report back in.. using an older version of skype solved the problem
[05:41] <indigirl1> paxmaster: ati works on ubuntu
[05:41] <indigirl1> benguin: lol. cool
[05:41] <_jason> aedes, I think I just isntalled it a few minutes ago
[05:41] <paxmaster> he only like to play
[05:41] <angryBeaver> ubuntu is great
[05:41] <benguin> indigirl1: thats what you call an UP-grade
[05:41] <benguin> lol
[05:41] <paxmaster> so how could I configure it
[05:41] <indigirl1> benguin: you told me the solution in your own words. i just repeated it back to you.
[05:41] <DShepherd> paxmaster: oh you want the various games to work as well
[05:41] <sethk> benguin, that's good to know; I have to use skype next month when my software is installed on the manufacturing floor in Taiwan, so I appreciate the information
[05:41] <dabaR> what is that apt-get command to clear out ../apt/cache/archives?
[05:41] <alex__> I mounted my share via fstab and mount -a... I can read it fine but I cant make any changes
[05:42] <benguin> indigirl1: yeah well, i believe in progress.. hehe. thanks though.
[05:42] <paxmaster> i have cedega
[05:42] <benguin> sethk: no problems... next target.. software suspend2
[05:42] <bimberi> !info anjuta
[05:42] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[05:42] <paxmaster> install
[05:42] <angryBeaver> is it difficult to network ubuntu with a windows machine?
[05:42] <benguin> indigirl1: indy racing?
[05:42] <angryBeaver> going thru the same router
[05:42] <sethk> benguin, tougher target, good luck.
[05:42] <bimberi> aedes: it's in the universe repository
[05:42] <cast> dabaR: have you looked at man apt-get and apt-get help?
[05:42] <benguin> ubotu: what happened to anjuta2
[05:42] <ubotu> benguin: I give up, what is it?
[05:42] <Toma-> alex__: samba isnt my forte :(
[05:42] <dabaR> cast: oh yeah.
[05:42] <indigirl1> benguin: dog's name
[05:42] <paxmaster> some one can guide me or just show a howto
[05:43] <benguin> seth, ubotu: software suspend2 almost works.. it's an issue with apic in my laptop.
[05:43] <Reid> okay does anyone know why i'd get an error stating 'failed to start the xserver'?
[05:43] <benguin> ubotu: in windows terms: hibernation
[05:43] <ubotu> benguin: Not a clue
[05:43] <alex__> Is it possible to set up another protocol with Windows?
[05:43] <cast> alex__: i suggest ftp ;p
[05:43] <bimberi> aedes: if you have breezy - Applications -> Add Application -> Programming -> More Programs -> Anjuta IDE
[05:43] <benguin> ubotu: like, shutting down your comp so that your work remains where they were next time you start it up.
[05:43] <ubotu> benguin: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:43] <indigirl1> Reid: lots of possible reasons
[05:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell benguin about yourself
[05:44] <indigirl1> Reid: that error message is very general
[05:44] <benguin> eh! lol
[05:44] <benguin> indigirl1: gotcha :)
[05:44] <Reid> alright would it be a problem with the ati card?
[05:44] <Reid> sorry i'm relatively new to linux
[05:44] <sethk> Reid, it could be, but it could be a million other things also
[05:44] <sethk> Reid, you have to look at the X log
[05:44] <tritium> Reid, first places to look are at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, which is I believe /var/log/X.something
[05:45] <Pirogeth> =/
[05:45] <mpm2> I'm getting an error when trying to use the getmail I installed on Hoary with synaptic that it can't find the Python module getmailcore, that appears to be installed in the correct location... anyone have a clue as to how to troubleshoot this?
[05:45] <ubuntu> I am on Live, but I can't see my hdd with my favourite mp3s
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:45] <dabaR> cast: how come you have a fsf/member/cast mask?
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, although occasionally the 0 might be 1
[05:45] <Reid> sethk what am i looking for in those files?
[05:45] <sethk> Reid, at the end of the file, it will tell you why it shut down
[05:46] <cast> dabaR: associate member :>
[05:46] <Reid> alright...
[05:46] <dabaR> cast: I see }:-)
[05:46] <indigirl1> for some silly reason my root partition is mounted readonly. how do i remount it readwrite? or do i have to reboot?
[05:47] <tritium> Reid, in the log file, look for any errors, indicated by (EE)
[05:47] <sethk> indigirl1, that means that something went wrong during boot and the boot didn't complete
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> indigirl1, hmm... try sudo mount -a?
[05:47] <F-Lazer> anyone that want to help set up a webpage with apache2?
[05:47] <sethk> indigirl1, that's a serious problem, generally.  You have to track it down.
[05:47] <Reid> alright,my laptop lost power, i'm rebooting and getting the same error
[05:47] <sethk> indigirl1, it is very unlikely that it will allow you to remount read/write, but even if it will, that's not what you need to be doing.
[05:47] <cast> what would happen if you mounted over the top of /?
[05:47] <dabaR> F-Lazer: help in what way...
[05:47] <Reid> now opening log file
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> cast, you wouldnt be able to do that
[05:47] <benguin> owright, im outta here for now .. thanks a bunch people.
[05:47] <benguin> night
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> cast, if / was mounted on already
[05:48] <F-Lazer> well, never done this before so, show how to do and stuff like that
[05:48] <indigirl1> i had some inode errors yesterday. i think its this resurfacing.
[05:48] <Reid> okay the error is radeon(0): driscreeninit filed disaling dri
[05:48] <cast> indigirl1: manpage has remount option
[05:48] <F-Lazer> i've tryed a couple of times, but i never get it to work
[05:49] <dabaR> F-Lazer: did you install apache2?
[05:49] <Reid> is there any way to fix that?
[05:49] <F-Lazer> yupp, its installed
[05:49] <sethk> Reid, hm.  that sounds perhaps like dri support is missing from the kernel
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> so anyone notices constant/intermittent harddisk activity in breezy? i think it has to do with ext3... but i'm sure theres some variable that i can cchange
[05:49] <dabaR> F-Lazer: and you would like us to help you write HTML?
[05:49] <sethk> Reid, is this a standard installation?
[05:49] <indigirl1> Reid: maybe comment out the dri line in your x config file
[05:50] <varsendagger> -watching streaming tv with mplayer?
[05:50] <F-Lazer> isnt there complete forums n stuff u just download?
[05:50] <Reid> i had to put in the command linux vga=771 for laptop moniter compatibility
[05:50] <varsendagger> -watching streaming tv with mplayer
[05:50] <Reid> but other than that yes
[05:50] <kvantti> F-Lazer basic html tutorials are very common on the web. and apache configuration should be explained on the website in completion
[05:50] <dabaR> F-Lazer: there is. start with what ubotu sends you.
[05:50] <sethk> Reid, I had to do that on install also on my radeon box
[05:51] <indigirl1> Reid: this error and the vga thing are unrelated
[05:51] <sethk> Reid, once installed, it was ok
[05:51] <kvantti> F-Lazer also search for apache in the ubuntu forums..
[05:51] <F-Lazer> havent got that far... i barely got it to install
[05:51] <F-Lazer> im totally new to this
[05:51] <sethk> Reid, you chose the default kernel to install?
[05:51] <Reid> yes
[05:51] <F-Lazer> tried on a win pc too but i cant figure it out
[05:51] <sethk> Reid, strange.  You can try removing the dri module from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:52] <sethk> Reid, before you make any changes to that file, back it up.
[05:52] <sethk> Reid, there is also an apt-get command that reconfigures X.  Try that also.
[05:52] <cast> /dev/hda3             6.5G  574M  5.6G  10% /mnt/hda3
[05:52] <cast> /dev/hda1             6.5G  574M  5.6G  10% /mnt/hda3
[05:52] <kvantti> F-Lazer type the command /join #apache ..seems to be a very popular channel
[05:52] <sethk> someone, tell Reid that magic apt-get incantation?
[05:52] <F-Lazer> i've read faq and support pages.. but they are so complicated anf filled with holes
[05:52] <indigirl1> i cant even read a manpage about remount. lol. man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system
[05:52] <sethk> indigirl1, of course
[05:52] <F-Lazer> ok
[05:53] <pppoe_dude> indigirl1: lol, do a init 0
[05:53] <sethk> indigirl1, but I told you, mount/remount is totally irrelevant
[05:53] <sethk> indigirl1, you have to look at /var/log/messages, and/or dmesg, and see what happened and fix it.
[05:53] <indigirl1> sethk: ill probably run an e2fsk or whatever that program is to fix any errors
[05:53] <cast> indigirl1: use zcat|less?
[05:53] <dabaR> F-Lazer: you can write "localhost" in your browser and press enter, taht will atke you to your home page of your computer. Other than that, you have to think of what exactly you want set up, and then ask us how to set it up.
[05:53] <sethk> indigirl1, highly unlikely to work.  but you can try.
[05:54] <slashx1896> Hello
[05:54] <Reid> there is no file /etcx11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <sethk> Reid, you are missing a slash
[05:54] <sethk> Reid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <varsendagger> is there a wiki on playing streaming TV on ubuntu?
[05:54] <cast> ahh nvm. zcat|less is fugly
[05:54] <sethk> Reid, also, capital X.  pay attention
[05:54] <kvantti> varsendagger check out the MythTV software
[05:54] <Reid> sorry
[05:55] <Reid> sethk: what if permission denied?
[05:55] <indigirl1> pppoe_dude: init 0 translates to reboot
[05:55] <aru> any idea why when I go to update the progress window pops up then immediatly closes?
[05:55] <pppoe_dude> indigirl1, yes i was gonna tell you init 1 then init 2, but i wasn't sure if that remounts /
[05:55] <sethk> Reid, use sudo
[05:55] <indigirl1> pppoe_dude: i think root partition remains mounted
[05:56] <varsendagger> kvantti, have you gotten anything
[05:56] <Reid> sethk: sudo?
[05:56] <sethk> Reid, as in   sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <sethk> Reid, but don't forget to back up the xorg.conf file first
[05:56] <pppoe_dude> indigirl1, you can always try... that used to happen to me when i e2fsck'd my hda, and then i got stuck and couldn't remount... so maybe best bet is to reboot
[05:56] <sethk> Reid, but I think I'd try the X reconfig first.
[05:56] <kvantti> varsendagger no, i plan on using it with a dvb-t usb device after christmas..but it looks like the soft for you is mythvideo which is found in the synaptic
[05:57] <sethk> someone?  the apt-get command too reconfigure the X server?  (Sorry if I missed someone saying it earlier)
[05:57] <indigirl1> sethk: dpkg-reconfigure foo
[05:57] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:57] <sethk> tritium, thanks, I'll write it down this time.  People need it and I always ask.  :)
[05:58] <tritium> :)
[05:58] <Reid> thanks tritium
[05:58] <varsendagger> kvantti, i wanted soemthign exactly like winamp's streaming tv service, and guess what, i  made it work!!!!!!
[05:58] <kvantti> varsendagger it's a digital television hybrid card and i was happily surprised when i found that those devices are allready supported..good for us :)
[05:58] <pppoe_dude> hmm apparently theres isnt even a remount manpage
[05:58] <pppoe_dude> or a remount command
[05:58] <sethk> pppoe_dude, there is no remount.  it is just mount
[05:58] <pppoe_dude> ya
[05:58] <sethk> pppoe_dude, you can use mount to remount
[05:59] <crimsun> remount is an _option_ to pass to mount
[05:59] <choudesh> anyone on the unbuntu dev list? Anyone get a msg from 'Christopher Houdeshell'?
[05:59] <aru> so the update app isn't really for updating, it's just for looks?
[05:59] <sethk> pppoe_dude, but that's not her problem.  her problem is _why_ the remount failed.
[05:59] <pppoe_dude> mount -a remount
[05:59] <varsendagger> is there a ubuntu developer in here?
[05:59] <cast> sethk: she'll realise that soon enough when she remounts rw only to have something break at a later time ;p
[05:59] <cast> pppoe_dude: -a or -o?
[05:59] <crimsun> varsendagger: what's the issue?
[05:59] <pppoe_dude> sethk, yes
[06:00] <sethk> cast, that's what concerns me.  :)
[06:00] <pppoe_dude> cast i guess it would be -o
[06:00] <pppoe_dude> "option"
[06:00] <kvantti> hey crimsun, is there plans for a modern fps like cube to be added to the synaptic? that game is open source, and i have long wondered why there is no modern fps games found in the synaptic..
[06:00] <cast> have the fun of nix is shooting yourself in the foot :)
[06:00] <varsendagger> crimsun, i just got streaming video to work and i want to write a wiki
[06:00] <cast> s/have/half
[06:00] <pppoe_dude> hey can i use mount -o remount to remount my ext3 to ext2?
[06:01] <froguz> somebody can tell me how to rebuild a hdlist file from a CentOS Install CD under ubuntu??
[06:01] <crimsun> varsendagger: wiki.ubuntu.com is open for any registered user.
[06:01] <sethk> pppoe_dude, nah, only to ntfs
[06:01] <varsendagger> i wanted to know if i would be stepping on any toes
[06:01] <aedes> are there more video codecs for ubuntu?
[06:01] <crimsun> kvantti: what's the license?
[06:01] <kvantti> crimsun let me see
[06:01] <crimsun> varsendagger: nope, feel free to go ahead and edit it
[06:01] <dabaR> cast: I would have expected more from a person with that mask. re: "half the fun of nix "
[06:01] <kvantti> crimsun the site is: http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
[06:02] <sethk> varsendagger, write away.  if there isn't already one in the wiki, then it will be appreciated, I'm quite sure.
[06:02] <varsendagger> great
[06:02] <sethk> varsendagger, of course be as exact as possible and don't overgeneralize (that is, beyond your specific configuration) if possible.
[06:03] <crimsun> kvantti: it _may_ be able to be included in universe due to the zlib license but certainly won't be in main for Dapper
[06:03] <sethk> varsendagger, say, this worked for me with these parameters (and give _all_ the relevant parameters), and then perhaps "I believe this will work for other configurations"
[06:03] <cast> dabaR: in my world nix roughly means unix like, which includes gnu, bsd, i don't see the problem?
[06:03] <sethk> varsendagger, in other words, be a bit conservative.
[06:03] <kvantti> crimsun of course :) thankyou
[06:03] <crimsun> kvantti: if you would like to see it in Ubuntu, please add it to the list of candidates that we track for universe/multiverse
[06:03] <jeff303> after completing the hoary->breezy upgrade, after restarting, right after "uncompressing linux" I saw something like "FATAL: module EXT2 not found" or something like that... but everything seemed to work; should I be worried?
[06:03] <dabaR> cast: maybe that is so. Good.
[06:04] <kvantti> crimsun is that list in the wiki since i do not have any dev contacts?
[06:04] <luisito> hello people
[06:04] <crimsun> jeff303: nothing to worry about if your system boots (and by default it would use ext3)
[06:04] <crimsun> kvantti: yes
[06:04] <varsendagger> ok ok thankyou
[06:04] <pussfeller> is there a way with wget to dl all the links on a page?
[06:05] <cast> nix
[06:05] <cast> ahh oops. sloppy focus died for a while
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> pussfeller, i think you'd need permissions to list directory structure
[06:05] <towsheba> ok Im back again for the 20th time tonight
[06:05] <towsheba> :(
[06:05] <cast> dabaR: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Anix&sourceid=mozilla&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 i dont think im too far wrong :)
[06:06] <crimsun> pussfeller: yes, wget has a "follow" mode
[06:07] <kvantti> crimsun is there some kind of identifier for the page you can give me..i am in the CategoryDocumentation section. or a link, please?
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> sudo rm -rf / :P
[06:07] <luisito> I have 2 questions before I go to sleep. 1- Can it be possible to have the windows menus on the panel (like Mac) in Gnome? (I know kde does).   2- Can I open a *.sit file in linux?
[06:07] <towsheba> In xterm I type 'fluxconf' to get the fluxbox configuration tool but I get a error message Segmentation fault
[06:08] <crimsun> kvantti: please start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[06:08] <sethk> towsheba, run it under strace, see what it does just before it dies
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> luisito, yes: window-selector. it's an applet in gnome-panel
[06:08] <towsheba> sethk, how exactly would I go about that?
[06:08] <kvantti> crimsun thanks
[06:08] <sethk> towsheba, if you would normally do fluxconf, do:    strace -ff fluxconf
[06:08] <dabaR> cast: OK, the thing why I said that is that usually people say nix to refer to linux, dunno, Im just new.
[06:09] <sethk> towsheba, actually -f will do
[06:09] <sethk> towsheba, strace -f fluxconf
[06:09] <towsheba> k thnx
[06:09] <sethk> towsheba, that will print out each O/S call the program invokes
[06:10] <kvantti> crimsun i discovered that cube is allready a candidate. it looks like the word has gotten around :)
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> how can i stop intermittent harddisk activity? it happens every 2 seconds... seems to subside a bit if i enable laptop-mode
[06:10] <dabaR> pppoe_dude: sure its not the computer working?
[06:10] <luisito> pppoe_dude, thanks, I have that. But I mean the menus of the application window. Like mac, when you select the window the menu of that window is shown in the panel.
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> dabaR: I'm sure. its very uniform and intermittent at a constant rate
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> luisito, oh.. like file edit etc..? i dont think thats possible
[06:11] <cast> dabaR: i should have probably said unix-like but im lazy. naming things correctly is fairly important else confusion ensures :)
[06:11] <dabaR> hehe:)
[06:11] <kvantti> crimsun if not all parts of the software are open source, would that mean that the un-parts will be in multiverse, or could it hinder the process?
[06:12] <Crys_Win> Hey, people.
[06:12] <dabaR> cast: sweet, wanna /j #ubuntu-offtopic for a short  interview?:) I just have some questions...
[06:13] <crimsun> kvantti: which parts aren't open?
[06:13] <kvantti> crimsun the network code
[06:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kvantti, where can one find a .deb?
[06:13] <crimsun> kvantti: yes, the license will be a hindrance
[06:14] <kvantti> crimsun so more waiting..well, atleast we got wolfenstein et and it actually has a good installer :)
[06:14] <dabaR> kvantti: code that is non free and only available in binary format goes to multiverse
[06:14] <luisito> pppoe_dude, that is what I am talking about :P . I find that way better than all the menus in each window. It saves space and look better.
[06:15] <crimsun> we may not be able to distribute cube at all if the license doesn't allow it
[06:15] <towsheba> ok Im on my desktop this time :P (winxp)
[06:16] <towsheba> sethk: I tried strace -f fluxconf
[06:16] <kvantti> The_Isle_of_Mark if you are talking about the source, it is: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cube/cube_2005_08_29_src.zip?download
[06:16] <sethk> towsheba, ok, and?
[06:16] <towsheba> and theres tones of no such files and dir listed here
[06:16] <sethk> towsheba, that's normal for an strace
[06:16] <towsheba> killed by SIGSEGV it says
[06:16] <sethk> towsheba, all you care about are the last few lines
[06:16] <sethk> towsheba, what happens just before the SIGSEGV?
[06:17] <towsheba> no such file or directory
[06:17] <towsheba> is what it says
[06:17] <sethk> towsheba, for what file?
[06:17] <kvantti> The_Isle_of_Mark we are talking about a highly unconventional and advanced engine. i i am interested to see what the "open" status will produce in the future
[06:17] <towsheba> Seg,emtation failt
[06:17] <towsheba> and all of them are missing
[06:17] <towsheba> im not sure how
[06:17] <towsheba> after the 3rd render
[06:17] <towsheba> the rest are missing
[06:18] <sethk> towsheba, all I want is the last
[06:18] <towsheba> that is the last
[06:18] <towsheba> want me to c/paste the last 3 lines/
[06:18] <towsheba> ?*
[06:18] <kvantti> wow i just love this sounds at digitally imported's ambient chillout stream. all you electronica people, tune in right now! =)
[06:18] <sethk> towsheba, I meant the last filename
[06:20] <sethk> towsheba, we may need to add more strace arguments.  Do this:   strace -o some-file-name -f -s 1024 fluxconf
[06:20] <sethk> towsheba, that will put the output into a file (replace some-file-name with a real filename) and you can paste it to a pastebot
[06:20] <towsheba|64bittu> hm..
[06:20] <towsheba|64bittu> i dont know
[06:20] <towsheba|64bittu> one second
[06:20] <sethk> towsheba, the -s 1024 means keep 1024 bytes of any data in a call.
[06:20] <towsheba|64bittu> k then
[06:21] <testme> Hi, can anyone help me with a problem with Evolution 2.4.1?
[06:22] <Fujitsu> Probably.
[06:22] <towsheba|64bittu> I get a segmentation fault
[06:23] <testme> Fujitsu - there's a menu to the right of Help, that's about 1.5 characters wide... can't rewally tell what it's about, but it seems that after I clicked it, my Send/Recieve button stopped working, and even que'd messages aren't being sent!
[06:23] <varsendagger> how do i sign the ubuntu policy?
[06:24] <prashant> HI all
[06:24] <Fujitsu> varsendagger: You need GPG, just download it and sign the file!
[06:24] <germancito> Hi everybody
[06:24] <Fujitsu> testme: Who knows.
[06:24] <linuxboy> Fujitsu: whats the ubuntu policy?
[06:24] <germancito> some one here using nmapfe???
[06:24] <varsendagger> Fujitsu, do i apt-get it?
[06:25] <Fujitsu> varsendagger, the policy, you mean?
[06:25] <prashant> i am having a problem with my keyboard and mouseeeeee.         some leeeeeeeetters are too sticky
[06:25] <testme> Fujitsu - do you have a menu to the right of Help in Evolution?
[06:25] <Fujitsu> No, I don't...
[06:25] <Fujitsu> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:26] <prashant> mouse : the synaptic scrrrrrrrrrroll does not wwwwwwwwwwork
[06:26] <testme> 5.10
[06:26] <prashant> dapper drrrrrrrrrrake
[06:26] <testme> evolution 2.4.1
[06:26] <Fujitsu> Ahh, I am only using 5.04, with an earlier version of Evolution.
[06:26] <varsendagger> Fujitsu, physically? with gimp or how?
[06:26] <Fujitsu> My 5.10 CDs only arrived today, and I am about to install it...
[06:27] <varsendagger> i read the policy
[06:27] <_texas> im runnin 5.10
[06:27] <testme> prashant - you can click in the package window, and type to get around... xscr would take you to xscreensaver, for example
[06:27] <_texas> got problems with my graphics
[06:27] <testme> thanks anyway, Fujitsu
[06:27] <Fujitsu> varsendagger: No, with the GNU Privacy Guard. You have to generate a key, sign the policy, upload the key to the Ubuntu servers, and then upload the signed policy to the website.
[06:27] <Fujitsu> Just wait a second...
[06:28] <Fujitsu> I will post instructions momentarily.
[06:28] <testme> there are tutorials if you have never used PGP or GPG before
[06:28] <Fujitsu> Once the Ubuntu machine beside me finishes setting itself up.
[06:28] <Fujitsu> Probably good to follow a tutorial in order to set up and generate keys, yes.
[06:28] <Fujitsu> sudo apt-get install gpg will install it.
[06:28] <Fujitsu> And....
[06:29] <Agamotto> Hallo all
[06:29] <_texas> anyone using Kubuntu 5.10 having Graphical issues? im having glitches bounce all over my screen
[06:29] <Fujitsu> *struggles to remember how to generate a key*
[06:29] <Fujitsu> Hello Agamotto.
[06:29] <Agamotto> _texas:  Only when I change resolutions very quickly
[06:29] <testme>                                            do you know your graphics card, texas?
[06:29] <_texas> Nvidia Gerforce MX400
[06:29] <varsendagger> Fujitsu, thankyou
[06:30] <testme> did you try checking the wiki?
[06:30] <_texas> im new to linux and dont know what the Wiki is
[06:30] <Killer_Smurf> !wiki
[06:30] <Fujitsu> My computer is too slow.
[06:30] <otep> !gpg
[06:30] <ubotu> gpg is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[06:31] <Fujitsu> Heh\
[06:31] <Agamotto> _texas:  wikipedia is a freeform encyclopedia
[06:31] <testme> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ for the Ubuntu wiki
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> what is the main difference between xfree86 and xorg?
[06:31] <Lokadin> hey why does gtk-gnutella complain that it is firewalled?/ when i am connected directly to dsl and don't have iptables
[06:31] <Fujitsu> Of course, the family computer is not allowed to have Linux on it, is it :roll:
[06:31] <Fujitsu> Installing Packages: 78%
[06:32] <Lokadin> hey why does gtk-gnutella complain that it is firewalled?/ when i am connected directly to dsl and don't have iptables
[06:32] <testme> is there something like /afk for irc?
[06:32] <Agamotto> Fujitsu:  The family likes the weekly virus updates eh?
[06:32] <Agamotto> testme:  yes, type /away
[06:32] <Lokadin> hey why does gtk-gnutella complain that it is firewalled?/ when i am connected directly to dsl and don't have iptables
[06:32] <testme> thanks!
[06:32] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: the licence.
[06:32] <Lokadin> cafuego: ? me
[06:32] <mpm2> anyone know the correct syntax for defining the prefix in a python setup script?  I'm trying to patch a broken install script
[06:33] <cast> Lokadin: surely you'll have iptables, id check sudo iptables -L just to make sure there are no rules
[06:33] <Lokadin> cast: kk
[06:34] <Lokadin> cast: oh wow, damn thanks
[06:34] <Madpilot> Lokadin: install Firestarter from the repos to manage your firewall, if you need to let something thru it - I had to explicitly open my bittorrent ports...
[06:35] <Lokadin> Madpilot: o okay thanks :D
[06:36] <RedRose> is there a program to monitor my bandwidth? or how much data is going in and out of MY PC?
[06:36] <cast> RedRose: sure is. i use iptraf for that
[06:36] <moribus> can't connect to wpa-psk network. docs say ask for help.
[06:36] <moribus> sudo /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf  -ieth1 -Dhostap returns this kinda stuff:
[06:36] <moribus> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported
[06:36] <moribus> ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address
[06:36] <moribus> ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address
[06:36] <cafuego> Oh how I love LTSP; my amd64 is out of commission, but the crusty old laptop, 21" screen and apple keybd work fine :-)
[06:36] <liable> even ifconfig shows what has been in/out since its been up..
[06:37] <crimsun> liable: Breezy? Dapper?
[06:37] <RedRose> crimsun:Both
[06:37] <RedRose> just type ifconfig and it will tell the amount of packet's that's been in/out since the devices first connection
[06:37] <liable> crimsun: err, misfire :)
[06:38] <crimsun> liable: sorry, that was directed at moribus
[06:38] <liable> np
[06:38] <moribus> 5.10, don't recall the cute name ;-)
[06:39] <crimsun> "Breezy"
[06:39] <moribus> crimsun: Breezy
[06:39] <liable> vegmocam?
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> is there a way to set a limit (%) on how much processor time a process can use?
[06:40] <crimsun> moribus: what version firmware? Is it in monitor mode?
[06:40] <moribus> crimsun: don't know. how do I tell??
[06:40] <gee_cee0> hi
[06:40] <moribus> crimsun: a link to docs is fine...
[06:41] <crimsun> moribus: would be in dmesg output. Note that the hostap driver requires at least firmware version 1.7.0 for the station and for the device to be in managed mode
[06:41] <liable> pppoe_dude: man nice?? dunno if its what you actually want..
[06:42] <gee_cee0> im having a problem ith GRUB
[06:42] <szandor> anyone have any luck getting a soundblaster live usb external to work under breezy?  it locks up when I try to play through it
[06:42] <_texas> Authentication failure with SU command , can i reset the password or set it for the first time?
[06:43] <n0dl> bbl
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> liable, isnt nice for prioritizing?
[06:43] <linkd> _texas: run: sudo passwd root
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> i wanna set say the limit for xine to use a maximum of 30% of total cpu
[06:43] <gee_cee0> GRUB Loading stage1.5... and crashes
[06:44] <linkd> _texas: there is an article somewhere on the ubuntu wiki about why root is disabled and how to set/unset the password. but i have no mouse atm so i cant really go looking.. or at least not pasting my results
[06:44] <moribus> crimson: the station is a dlink airplus *extreme* (emphasis mine) which claims to have a 2.37 version firmware. My card is in managed mode. Do I meet specs? Seems so to me...
[06:44] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: see 'ma ulimit'
[06:44] <cast> surely sudo passwd would do the deed?
[06:45] <cast> or sudo bash instead of su perhaps
[06:45] <_texas> thanks link
[06:45] <moribus> cafuego:No manual entry for ulimit on breezy...
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> moribus, cafuego yes
[06:46] <cast> moribus: its a bash built in, use help ulimit
[06:46] <TreeStump> hi
[06:47] <moribus> cast: :-)
[06:47] <TreeStump> y cant i get ubuntu to recognise my RAID array?
[06:49] <TreeStump> ??
[06:49] <cafuego> TreeStump: Using some win-raid highpoint or promise thing?
[06:49] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: Then you need to find other ulimit docs ;-)
[06:49] <TreeStump> i have a promise SATA RAID stripe and it is partititoned
[06:50] <cafuego> yeah, that's WinRaid. Linux doesn't support that without proprietaryd rivers.
[06:50] <TreeStump> 200gb for WinXP and i have 20gb set for Ubuntu but it wont recognize it...
[06:50] <Lokadin> say i deleted iptables but my gtk-gnutella still complains that it's being firewalled
[06:50] <TreeStump> ok
[06:50] <TreeStump> anyways i can get around it ?
[06:51] <cast> cafuego: so is that the raid equiv of a winmodem? [i dont know anything about raid since im poor] 
[06:51] <cafuego> TreeStump: is there already data on the array?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Lokadin,  you aint behind any router?
[06:51] <TreeStump> yeah there is
[06:51] <cafuego> cast: yeah. must be avoided.
[06:51] <moribus> crimsun: how do I check the firmware version on my card
[06:51] <moribus> ?
[06:51] <Lokadin> Dr_Willis: direct connection to dsl modem
[06:51] <TreeStump> can be reformatted, but i prefer not to
[06:52] <cafuego> TreeStump: Then you'll need to find a driver from the promise website that matches up with an Ubuntu kernel.
[06:52] <_texas> ok dumb question, how do i change directories in Terminal
[06:52] <TreeStump> ive looked for Drivers for my RAID for linux but not succeeded so far
[06:52] <cafuego> cast: in-kernel software raid (via the md driver) is by far better, faster, more reliable.
[06:52] <crimsun> moribus: did you look in dmesg output?
[06:52] <Lokadin> so how does ubuntu filter my ports with no firewall? :'(
[06:52] <cast> Lokadin: nmap localhost and see if it really does
[06:52] <Lokadin> kk
[06:53] <cafuego> localhost is 127.0.0.1
[06:53] <cafuego> nmapping that is pointless.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> check 'iptables -l' also  (I thjink)
[06:53] <cafuego> iptables -L
[06:53] <Lokadin> Dr_Willis: did, there is no iptables
[06:53] <_texas> trying to install Nvidia drivers and dunno how to get the the desktop folder in Terminal
[06:53] <germancito>  How can I run an application in gnome without checking the "run in terminal" box in the applications menu?
[06:54] <Lokadin> i'll nmap my inet address
[06:54] <cast> OHHH
[06:54] <sethk> germancito, start a terminal, and type the name of the program
[06:54] <moribus> crimsun: only info there is mac addr, "Atmel at76c50x wireless V 0.96" and "SMC 2632W-V2 ..."
[06:54] <cast> my bad @ cafuego / Lokadin
[06:54] <_texas> trying to install Nvidia drivers and dunno how to get the the desktop folder in Terminal
[06:54] <cast> thought he was running a gtk app that connected from/to localhost....*stopped reading at gtk-*
[06:55] <blunted> !fstab
[06:55] <Lokadin> it looks like ubuntu is filtering because i can't see anything other then my sshd open
[06:55] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> _tester_,  its the Desktop folder in you home dir. :P
[06:55] <cafuego> Lokadin: What do you think NEEDS to be open then?
[06:55] <Lokadin> cafuego: my gtk-gnutella 6347 smtp and all the other services i'm running
[06:56] <germancito> sethk, I've done that, but what I want is just to run tha program from the applications menu, without any terminal
[06:56] <Lokadin> i scanned my ip from my own computer so there is no way the dsl provider is doinng so
[06:56] <Lokadin> as in filtering
[06:56] <_texas> how do you change to a certain Directory like /home/user/Desktop
[06:56] <cafuego> Lokadin: smtp only listen on lo by default.
[06:57] <Lokadin> cafuego: well how about gtk-gnutella?
[06:57] <_texas> in Konsole
[06:57] <cafuego> Lokadin: if the other apps are listening, 'netstat -nap' should pick 'em up. if not, they're just not listening.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> _texas,  it may be time to go read a basic bash 101 tutorial. 'cd /whever/whatever'
[06:57] <Agamotto> _texas:  cd /(name of dir)
[06:57] <Madpilot> !tell _texas about cli
[06:57] <Lokadin> cafuego: yea it's just gtk-gnutella and sshd that are listening on my ip but i mean that should be enough
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> _texas,  what are you trying to do/install anyway?
[06:58] <_texas> thanks guys, sorry im a noob
[06:58] <cafuego> Lokadin: ... coz byd efault Linux doesn't filter or firewall *anything*
[06:58] <_texas> Nvidia driver doc
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> _texas,  you HAVE read the ubuntu binary driver wiki? its like a 3 line cut/paste job.
[06:59] <Lokadin> cafuego: well why can't i see gtk-gnutella ?:(
[06:59] <Mabus06> How do you make a shortcut to a folder?
[06:59] <cafuego> Lokadin: if you don't see it, it's not listening for connections.
[06:59] <Lokadin> cafuego: yes it is, because netstat says it is, and gtk-gnutella says that it's being blocked by a firewall
[06:59] <Lokadin> only can't see it in nmap
[07:00] <moribus> Mabus: what do you mean shortcut?
[07:00] <cafuego> Lokadin: gtk-gnutela is possibly retarded then.
[07:00] <jtpratt> what's the best utility to or way to ssh to server on the Internet?
[07:01] <cafuego> jtpratt: How about 'ssh' ?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> jtpratt,  you mean the 'ssh' client?
[07:01] <Lokadin> cafuego: that's just abusive ad homeniem
[07:01] <Lokadin> omg
[07:01] <Lokadin> oi
[07:01] <cafuego> Lokadin: Well, ignore me then.
[07:01] <moribus> jtpratt: from the command line, ssh. from the desktop: places->connect to server
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> jtpratt,  then for windows theres. 'puty' and 'winscp'
[07:01] <jtpratt> well, wanted an xwindows client for ssh telnet to my web server at a shared how
[07:01] <Fujitsu> putty, you mean>
[07:01] <jtpratt> usually use putty on windows box
[07:01] <jtpratt> what do I use on ubuntu?
[07:02] <Fujitsu> ssh in a terminal.
[07:02] <Syntux> Why I cannot remove firefox without removing ubuntu-desktop, beagle, galeon ?
[07:02] <cafuego> jtpratt: Applications -> Accessories -> Termina. type 'ssh user@remotehost'
[07:02] <Fujitsu> Ahah. I believe the question is why would you want to remove firefox?
[07:02] <Madpilot> Syntux: because lots of things use the FF rendering engine
[07:02] <Agamotto> Fujitsu: personal taste
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> and its the best browser out. :P
[07:03] <Syntux> Madpilot,  actually I messed up some of main configuraiton of firefox, so I want to reinstall it, and ERASE previous configurations
[07:03] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[07:03] <Fujitsu> Hrm.
[07:03] <Syntux> Madpilot, any workground?
[07:03] <Fujitsu> Delete the profile, I guess.
[07:03] <kestas> rm -rf ~/.mozilla
[07:03] <Madpilot> Syntux: delete your /.firefox or whatever the profile is
[07:03] <Fujitsu> That would do it, yes
[07:03] <jtpratt> ssh in terminal works perfect, thanks!
[07:03] <Fujitsu> .mozilla or .firefox. I never can remember.
[07:04] <Syntux> kestas,  Fujitsu , Madpilot Actually I messed up /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res
[07:04] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[07:04] <Fujitsu> That could be more of a problem.
[07:04] <Syntux> nothing within the profile folder
[07:04] <Syntux> Fujitsu, not real messing up thougt, just installed some form enhancer widgets, and now I don't want it
[07:04] <kestas> Id look up some files on apt-get
[07:04] <kestas> there should be some reinstallation or reconfiguration mechanism
[07:05] <moribus> syntux: use synaptic, select reinstall package, see if it helps you
[07:05] <kestas> never had to reinstall anything myself so I wouldnt know
[07:05] <moribus> I wouldn't delete .mozilla
[07:05] <Syntux> moribus, it doesn't help :(
[07:05] <Fujitsu> Or you could forcibly remove it, then reinstall it immediately afterwards, if Synaptic doesn't do it.
[07:05] <kvantti> now that was strange
[07:06] <jhealey> hello all
[07:06] <Fujitsu> Not really advisable, but it should work.
[07:06] <kestas> this is your own fault though :P shouldnt have been messing around outside of your home folder unless you know exactly what youre doing or things get screwed up
[07:06] <nekostar> this kinda really sux
[07:06] <jhealey> what sux?
[07:06] <kestas> vacuum cleaners suck
[07:07] <kestas> perhaps he was talking about vacuum cleaners?
[07:07] <moribus> syntux: try mv .mozilla .mozilla-backup. see if it works then
[07:07] <jhealey> maybe
[07:07] <jhealey> or just new to irc and bewildered, with nothing sensible to say
[07:07] <jtpratt> anyone know where I can find a good tutorial on the filesystem and where to find things?
[07:08] <moribus> man find
[07:08] <jtpratt> besides man pages
[07:08] <moribus> jt: man find is the best think one could know on a *nix command line
[07:08] <kestas> jtpratt, see the linux doc project
[07:08] <moribus> seriously
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> info find
[07:08] <kestas> it should have a doc on the linux filesys layout
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:09] <jhealey> is that ldp.org?
[07:09] <kestas> (but it does change from dist to dist)
[07:09] <kestas> I think tldp.org, but Id google it
[07:09] <jtpratt> for example, I know I have tons of documentation and ebooks and tutorials installed, and have no idea where they are
[07:09] <jtpratt> I don't know where most binaries are installed
[07:09] <kestas> oh well for that use find or locate
[07:09] <jtpratt> or where icons go
[07:09] <jtpratt> etc...
[07:10] <nekostar> is anyone up who keeps logs?
[07:10] <kestas> if you want to know where things go see tldp, if you want to know where something is use a search tool
[07:10] <jhealey> confirmed, it is www.tldp.org
[07:10] <nekostar> or is this chan logged?
[07:10] <towsheba>  I cannot download repository index with the latest fluxbox
[07:10] <towsheba> any sugestions?
[07:10] <nekostar> i need something i said under this nick or starscalling a few weeks ago
[07:10] <moribus> jtpratt: google linux standards base
[07:10] <towsheba> I am in gnome at the moment
[07:10] <nekostar> !_!
[07:10] <ubotu> nekostar: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:10] <Syntux> moribus, do you think keeping the current firefox, but  installing a standalone one to /opt would hurt?
[07:10] <f3ar> is Synaptic Package Manager specific to Ubuntu?
[07:10] <towsheba> um...
[07:10] <nekostar> no its in debian too f3ar
[07:11] <jtpratt> thx.
[07:11] <f3ar> oh cool nekostar
[07:11] <towsheba> Any one?
[07:11] <kvantti> bye all..see you later
[07:11] <f3ar> late
[07:11] <moribus> syntux: how would you install to /opt?
[07:12] <f3ar> is there a way to get a os x like dock instead of the application/places/system bar?
[07:12] <vaioubuntu> if i dont have the gcc command available to me. or the ./configure or make, what do i need to do?
[07:12] <mark_> looking for confirmatin of a bug in Hoary: try "vmstat 2 | awk ' {print}' "
[07:12] <kestas> vaioubuntu, to do what?
[07:13] <vaioubuntu> my aim is to use a program called checkinstall to make sourcecode into ubuntu packages
[07:13] <Syntux> moribus,  d/l from mozilla, tar and link to desktop
[07:13] <kestas> vaioubuntu, well install gcc, make, autoconf, whatever else you need
[07:14] <vaioubuntu> this is the first time ive used linux.  i have no idea of what and where with linux.  can i get gcc, make, etc with the add application program?
[07:15] <cafuego> mark_: what's that supposed to do?
[07:15] <mark_> it should just echo the vmstat output every second
[07:15] <Madpilot> vaioubuntu: there's thousands of packages in the Ubuntu repos, you can probably get 99% of what you want w/o compiling a thing. What apps are you looking for?
[07:15] <cafuego> mark_: 'vmstat 2' does that
[07:15] <cafuego> Why would you pipe it into awk?
[07:16] <moribus> syntux: should be fine. however, I am fan of using intended software to get tasks done. When I select "remove" for firefox, I don't get all those dependancies. Is somthing else borked? How did you break firefox in the first place??
[07:16] <mark_> I was trying to strip out columns , look for changes, etc
[07:16] <vaioubuntu> i need to compile programs to make my touchpad work better.  a hack to get a widescreen resolution.  a couple custom buttons found on the laptop.  and, and this isnt important, the motion eye camera
[07:17] <cafuego> mark_: I don't think awk gets that input until vmstat flushes the buffer; so not until vmstat exists.
[07:17] <vaioubuntu> most important are the widescreen, touchpad, and ive had trouble with the wireless card not playing nice with dhcp
[07:17] <cafuego> exits even
[07:17] <mark_> but simplified the action to just {print} and found that I wasn't
[07:17] <mark_> I tried the same on a Knoppix installed system and it worked
[07:17] <nekostar> eh
[07:17] <nekostar> so yeha
[07:17] <Agamotto> vaioubuntu:  the resolutions should be as easy as changing the values in your xorg.conf file
[07:17] <nekostar> is this chan logged somewhere??
[07:18] <Syntux> moribus,  Now it's solved, I just had to remove some CSS files from that directory.
[07:18] <vaioubuntu> there is an entry that i just type differently?
[07:18] <vaioubuntu> and how do you address someone specific on the irc channel?  i see what you type to me in red and my name in front
[07:18] <vaioubuntu> or are you just doing that
[07:18] <agilman> are there any applications to burn CDs in ubuntu?
[07:19] <agilman> like k3b for KDE... ?
[07:19] <tony_> how do I install packages from .deb files that I have downloaded?
[07:19] <nekostar> that is an action with /me stuffthere
[07:19] <nekostar> the other is just ppl saying your name
[07:19] <Agamotto> vaioubuntu:  You just type their nick: then whatever afterwards
[07:19] <cast> tony_: one would look at man dpkg
[07:19] <nekostar> also there is :
[07:19] <tony_> k
[07:19] <Agamotto> tony_:  dpkg -i packagename.deb
[07:20] <Agamotto> agilman:  Almost as many as the number of your appendages
[07:20] <vaioubuntu> agamotto can you be more specific about the xorg.conf change?
[07:21] <agilman> if I do 'apt-get install kde' will that work OK?
[07:21] <agilman> or do I have to do something extra?
[07:21] <moribus> agilman: have you considered kubuntu?
[07:22] <agilman> moribus, I neeed KDE now...
[07:22] <agilman> I dont have time to download another CD
[07:22] <cafuego> agilman: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[07:22] <tony_> and is there a way to get dpkg to try to find all the needed dependancies for me as well?
[07:22] <agilman> thanks buddy
[07:22] <cafuego> agilman: That'll fetch the whole thing.
[07:22] <cafuego> And make your desktop ugly and slow ;-)
[07:22] <nekostar> arg
[07:23] <Locke> i'm having a problem with my sound
[07:23] <agilman> I use xfce personally
[07:23] <nekostar> what was that chaps name
[07:23] <agilman> but I need some KDE apps
[07:23] <cafuego> agilman: Just apt-get install those apps, whatever they need will be pulled in too.
[07:23] <moribus> sudo apt-get -s <app>
[07:23] <moribus> woops
[07:23] <Locke> whenever i have 2 things making sound (a song and gAIM) the music skips, so every time i get an IM it messes up my song
[07:24] <moribus> install <app>
[07:24] <agilman> awesome
[07:24] <moribus> -s will "simulate"
[07:24] <Locke> anyone have any ideas?
[07:24] <boa-chan> when i try to play something in xmms, it says it cant open audio
[07:24] <boa-chan> but nothing else is using it
[07:24] <moribus> agilman: I think you'll find that through dependancies, you'll have to install most of KDE anyway.
[07:25] <agilman> moribus, yes, I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <Locke> yeah, that really helps... none
[07:25] <moribus> agilman: well, kubuntu-desktop is guranteed install the whole shebang.
[07:26] <Locke> does anyone have ANY idea's?
[07:26] <navarone> are your speakers turned on?
[07:26] <Locke> obviously... if my song is skipping and i know it
[07:27] <navarone> Well you never said that
[07:27] <moribus> agilman: for fun, you can see this : sudo apt-get -s install k3b, which installs kde/qt core, plus the program
[07:27] <SilentOutcast> hello
[07:27] <agilman> moribus, whats qt ?
[07:27] <moribus> the programming library that kde depends on
[07:28] <Agamotto> Locke:  Using Gnome?
[07:28] <SilentOutcast> can anyone tell me if ubuntu supports Lucent winmodems
[07:28] <moribus> or, a "special magic program that KDE needs" for the lay person ;-)
[07:29] <Locke> agamotto: yes
[07:30] <navarone> Anyone using rhythmbox? I am wondering if you can make new folders in the sidepane and drag and drop titles from the library to sort them? Is that a feature?
[07:30] <Agamotto> Locke:  System -> Prefs -> Sound - turn off the enable sound server startup button
[07:31] <Agamotto> SilentOutcast:  It isn't likely.  Search google for linmodems, and check there
[07:32] <Locke> Agamotto: and now i have no sound...
[07:32] <tony_> also, on xmms 0% volume = silence, but everything else = full volume.  Anybody have that happen to them?
[07:32] <Agamotto> Locke:  Restart X, then things should be fine
[07:34] <towsheba>  I cannot download repository index with the latest fluxbox
[07:34] <towsheba> I am in gnome at the moment
[07:34] <towsheba> can some one please help me
[07:34] <agilman> hmm, your /etc/apt/sources.list is messed up?
[07:34] <agilman> towsheba, want my sources.list?
[07:35] <towsheba> how would i know?
[07:35] <towsheba> please
[07:35] <Locke> agamotto: that still didn't do anything
[07:35] <towsheba> www.freeuploader.com << if you think it will upload it here
[07:35] <towsheba> Locke: what do you think I should do?
[07:35] <boa-chan> can somebody help me with this error
[07:35] <boa-chan> http://pastebin.com/440612
[07:36] <Locke> towsheba: whats your problem?
[07:36] <Agamotto> Locke:  Now that is odd.  Solves the problem for me on every computer I have tried it on.  I am currently listening to shoutcast via XMMS and still getting my background pings, bongs, etc...
[07:36] <agilman> towsheba, http://67.170.178.242/sources.list
[07:36] <towsheba> thnx
[07:36] <agilman> save that list
[07:36] <Locke> agamotto i still GET them, it's just that when they play, my song starts skipping
[07:36] <agilman> you know where to put it, right?
[07:36] <towsheba> no LOL
[07:37] <agilman> oh boy :)
[07:37] <Agamotto> Locke:  I wonder if you might have a short in the sound card....
[07:37] <agilman> towsheba, save that file in /home/<your user name>
[07:37] <Locke> i JUST bought it
[07:37] <Locke> my onboard card wouldn't work
[07:38] <agilman> towsheba, then do 'sudo -i'
[07:38] <towsheba> that link is broke :(
[07:38] <agilman> http://67.170.178.242/sources.list
[07:38] <agilman> hmm
[07:39] <Agamotto> Locke:  Hmmmm, now that is odd
[07:39] <Locke> i doubt it's the fact that my computer is a piece of crap... lol
[07:39] <Locke> cuz i can run programs and my songs don't skip, but when the program makes a sound it starts to jump in the song
[07:39] <navarone> Lock did you disable onboard sound? That may (or not) be a problem
[07:40] <Locke> ... how can i do that? (either way it's saving system recourses, so i might as well)
[07:40] <Myrtti> how do I check what locales are installed to my system?
[07:40] <Myrtti> I've forgotten how
[07:41] <Agamotto> Locke:  Your system BIOS
[07:41] <Locke> meh, i have a crappy compack with 0 BIOS controls
[07:41] <Locke> i can't even change my boot priority
[07:41] <towsheba> agilman: that link does not work
[07:41] <navarone> Locke> you either do it thru bios or thru jumpers on the motherboard. Check your mb manual if you have one or the website for  accurate info
[07:41] <Agamotto> Locke:  try holding down F2 during boot
[07:42] <Locke> i know how to get into bios
[07:42] <Locke> it just won't let me disable it
[07:42] <Agamotto> Locke:  eh?  Odd, but possible
[07:42] <Locke> like i said
[07:42] <agilman> towsheba, one sec, let me load it up to another server
[07:42] <Locke> this thing is a compaq
[07:42] <Locke> it's made to be (almost) idiotproof
[07:42] <tony_>  on xmms 0% volume = silence, but everything else = full volume.  Anybody have that happen to them?
[07:42] <towsheba> thnx agilman
[07:42] <Locke> so if you start snooping around and don't know what your doing, you can't cause harm
[07:42] <Agamotto> Locke:  Nah, then it would be a Mac
[07:43] <navarone> Locke> do you have any manuals for hardware (motherboard)?
[07:43] <agilman> towsheba, http://www.angelfire.com/empire/wargame/sources.list
[07:43] <Locke> no, i saw this thing at a yard sale and thought "hmmmm, this would be perfect for Linux)
[07:43] <navarone> What processor?
[07:43] <Locke> 450 k6-2
[07:43] <Agamotto> Fairly decent
[07:44] <agilman> towsheba, save that file to /home/<your user name>
[07:44] <towsheba> LOL
[07:44] <towsheba> dur im a damb asshat
[07:44] <towsheba> I had wireless on
[07:44] <towsheba> and eth0 plugged in
[07:44] <towsheba> G-ZUS
[07:44] <towsheba> XD
[07:44] <Locke> i have a good idea how to disable my onboard sound card
[07:44] <navarone> Locke are you able to get into machine to try motheerboard jumpers...once you get an idea where the jumpers are...?
[07:44] <Locke> stab it with a screw driver
[07:45] <Locke> i could try, but i'm very lazy at the moment
[07:45] <Locke> i'll try it as a last resort
[07:45] <Locke> when every other possibility is exhausted
[07:45] <navarone> maybe the only way
[07:45] <Locke> what about giving my priority of my sound card to my media player, is that possible?
[07:46] <dieman> heh, saved by aptitude again
[07:46] <dieman> aptitude install '~ilinux-image-.*|~ilinux-headers-.*|~ilinux-restricted-modules-.*'
[07:46] <dieman> mmmm
[07:46] <pinkisntwell> why everything on my desktop looks so big? i have 1024*768 as resolution and i can't go any higher even though I have the nvidia driver installed
[07:47] <Locke> change the size of the files on your desktop... lol
[07:47] <navarone> Locke...I don't know about your situation but I turned off the sound preview feature...where you hear a portion of song when mouse is on file...<shrug>
[07:47] <jeff303> anyone here use Eclipse IDE w/Java on Breezy?
[07:48] <pinkisntwell> why can't I go any higher? this is not a joke
[07:48] <intelikey> lag lag lag   i'm lagging.....  8 seconds of lag.... lag lag lag
[07:48] <navarone> pinkisnt>I think the gnome desktop is just a bit...chunkier than the other desktop os'es
[07:48] <Myrtti> have you tweaked your xorg.conf yet
[07:48] <Locke> why did they name the device manager HAL... thats just asking for trouble...
[07:48] <pinkisntwell> no I haven't
[07:49] <Locke> i'm sorry dave... i'm afraid i can't allow you to enable that device...
[07:49] <HrdwrBoB> Locke: it's called that in other OSes too
[07:49] <Agamotto> intelikey:  At least you aren't on Mars, the lag would be around 3 minutes
[07:49] <Agamotto> Locke:  Inside joke in the computer industry
[07:49] <intelikey> hal=hardware aplaction layer
[07:49] <HrdwrBoB> abstraction
[07:49] <Locke> i know what it stands for
[07:49] <intelikey> hehhe yeah Agamotto :)
[07:49] <Locke> i'm just saying
[07:50] <Locke> come up with a better acronym
[07:50] <intelikey> HrdwrBoB yes   my typing is like my connection it is lagging
[07:51] <Locke> i just checked my hardware manager, when i install a new sound card my old sound card is automatically turned off, so thats not the problem...
[07:52] <Agamotto> Locke:  Why?  You don't like obfuscatory descriptive practices in relation to written communications?
[07:52] <slashx1896> hey all, is ubuntu like a desktopbased version of debian or something?
[07:52] <Locke> Agamotto: ummm... no?
[07:52] <pinkisntwell> how can I get a resoltution higher than 1024*768
[07:52] <pinkisntwell> ?
[07:52] <Agamotto> slashx1896:  bingo
[07:52] <Locke> get a better graphics card
[07:53] <towsheba> agilman: I restarted the system
[07:53] <towsheba> because I could only go to certain pages on the web
[07:53] <towsheba> I think thats the proble
[07:53] <towsheba> I tried going to ubuntulinux.org and it would not take me
[07:53] <slashx1896> kk cool i have debian but its to confusing for me
[07:53] <towsheba> but it would to pastebin
[07:53] <Locke> pinkisn'twell: go to system>preferences>Screen Resolution
[07:53] <slashx1896> wat u know ubuntu just finsihed burning to a cd
[07:53] <pinkisntwell> Locke: what are you talking about? I've got a 5200, should I get a super 3d card to run my desktop for god's sake?
[07:54] <Locke> pinkisntwell: it was a joke, calm down
[07:54] <Locke> pinkisntwell: read above, i just told you how to get higher resolution
[07:54] <pinkisntwell> ok, i went there and it only goes as high as 1024
[07:55] <Agamotto> pinkisntwell:  That may be the limit for your card/monitor setup
[07:55] <Locke> pinkisntwell: what type of monitor do you have?
[07:55] <Locke> Agamotto: i doubt it's his card, because it's not EXTREMELY bad
[07:55] <mrfed87> i'm looking to change my nick
[07:55] <mrfed87> oh, no, never mind.
[07:55] <SilentOutcast> can anyone tell me if there is any customs problems or fees for ordering a free cd in NEW YORK State in the USA
[07:56] <mrfed87> I got one free
[07:56] <mrfed87> no fees
[07:56] <Locke> silentoutcast: i don't see why there would be, i ordered one in Florida
[07:56] <mrfed87> I am from upstate NY
[07:56] <Locke> actually i ordered like 20
[07:56] <SilentOutcast> nice thanks
[07:56] <SilentOutcast> im ordering right now
[07:56] <SilentOutcast> can't wait to try this out
[07:56] <Agamotto> Locke:  Greedy guts
[07:56] <Locke> Agamotto: no, just need to spread the word my friend
[07:57] <slashx1896> hey,im installing ubuntu rite now, and i got a network autoconfig failed error
[07:57] <Locke> Agamotto: everyone is too lazy to download Linux, and i'm too poor to buy CDs to burn it, so just get a bunch of free ones and give them out
[07:57] <Agamotto> Locke:  Fair enough
[07:58] <slashx1896> can anyone help me?
[07:58] <Madpilot> i just got an order of 60 Ubuntu CDs, I'm going to hand them out at work - I work at the local public library
[07:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> is there an nfs share browser in ubuntu?
[07:58] <Locke> Agamotto: i treat my CDs like gold, i'll still have MY copy for years
[07:58] <Agamotto> I save most of my bother by subscribing to Linux Format.
[07:58] <Locke> Linux Format?
[07:58] <navarone> there was someone here earlier today claiming he was shipped 215...lol
[07:58] <Agamotto> linuxformat.couk
[07:58] <Agamotto> linuxformat.co.uk, that should be
[07:59] <navarone> Agamotto are you in uk?
[07:59] <Locke> it might be possible... but i doubt it
[07:59] <dducko> I have heard of more, so very very possible.
[07:59] <Agamotto> navarone: Nah, I wish
[07:59] <infamus> where is the best place to find themes for ubuntu?
[07:59] <slashx1896> u wish?
[07:59] <Locke> when running opera, i get a libjvm.so and a libawt.so error, any idea's?
[08:00] <dducko> gnomelook.org ?
[08:00] <Locke> just type in Linux Themes
[08:00] <Locke> in google
[08:00] <Agamotto> Yes, I like the UK, despite the current value of the pound
[08:00] <slashx1896> ic
[08:00] <Locke> i'm quite content being in th eUS
[08:00] <navarone> Locke> Lots of computer magazine have coverdisks. Before I settle on ubuntu i was gonna try the new Mandriva. The magazine was like 34 bucks though...<s> I've used PC Foramt and Linux Format...both excellent mags
[08:00] <infamus> there are a few, but when i try installing the themes in the theme manager i keep getting "file is invalid" errors from the .cfg files
[08:00] <slashx1896> can someone help me with installing ubuntu? (partition)
[08:00] <Agamotto> I find most brits to be well mannered in public compared to most(not all) Americans
[08:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone know of an nfs browser for ubuntu?
[08:01] <Locke> nfs?
[08:01] <dducko> slashx1896, better luck just asking the question
[08:01] <Locke> The_Isle_Of_Mark: nfs?
[08:01] <slashx1896> i dontnow what parittion method i should do?
[08:01] <Agamotto> Locke:  Novell/Network File System
[08:01] <Locke> ah
[08:01] <Locke> no idea, lol
[08:01] <infamus> slashxl896: what do you need help with?
[08:02] <Agamotto> slashx1896:  LVM, with one partition as /, and one as /home
[08:02] <Locke> i just use Opera cuz its 50 times faster than firefox on my system
[08:02] <slashx1896> LVM?
[08:02] <slashx1896> oo
[08:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubuntu has the places menu but it only sees samba shares, what gives?
[08:02] <infamus> slashxl896: well it all depends, do you have windows running on your PC already?
[08:02] <towsheba> yay
[08:02] <Locke> but i keep getting errors with Opera and i have to use terminal to start it >_<
[08:02] <towsheba> now downloading packages :D
[08:02] <navarone> Opera has a lot of nice features...but the ones I used are avaialble as extensions
[08:02] <slashx1896> infamus:i have windows and debian, and i want to replace debian with ubuntu
[08:03] <towsheba> damnit its still the fluxbox 0.9.12
[08:03] <Locke> yes... fluxbox doesn't update often...
[08:03] <towsheba> 0.9.14 is the one I need
[08:03] <towsheba> i have the deb
[08:03] <towsheba> but it gives me a error
[08:03] <Locke> just apt-get it
[08:03] <towsheba> could not download all repository indexes
[08:03] <infamus> slashxl896: simple, if you have the ubuntu install disk burned, format the partition with debian on it and install ubuntu in that partition
[08:04] <towsheba> howso?
[08:04] <navarone> I may not use xmms any more...now that I have figured how to import my mp3 into Library...d'oh>
[08:04] <towsheba> Locke:how so?
[08:04] <slashx1896> i have the ubuntu install disk running rite now
[08:04] <towsheba> apt-get *debhere*
[08:04] <navarone> Library of rhthymbox that is
[08:04] <Locke> towsheba: go to terminal and type in sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[08:04] <towsheba> k
[08:04] <slashx1896> i have 2 choices, erease enitre disk (hda) or erease and use LVM
[08:04] <towsheba> the deb has to be in root correct?
[08:04] <Locke> don't even worry about the deb, you can install directly from terminal
[08:05] <dducko> Is you windows on a different Harddrive>
[08:05] <Agamotto> slashx1896:  erase, use LVM, and set two partitions, one for /, and one for /home
[08:05] <navarone> slash do you have windows any where on disk...adn do you want  to keep it? If not use entire disk
[08:05] <Locke> thats the beauty of apt-get... all you have to know is the name...
[08:05] <slashx1896> i only have 1 hd
[08:05] <ke> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?shots/ikaro_fluxbox2.jpg <-- What's that monitoring app out on the right?
[08:06] <towsheba> gkrellm
[08:06] <towsheba> its called gkrellm
[08:06] <towsheba> I believe thats #2
[08:06] <Locke> towsheba: did it work?
[08:06] <slashx1896> agmotto: it already has one for /,should i make another for /home?
[08:06] <towsheba> im trying it now
[08:06] <Agamotto> slashx1896:  Yes, it makes backups and recovery much easier
[08:06] <MasterObi-WanK_> hello
[08:07] <towsheba> permission denied and unable to lock the list directory
[08:07] <towsheba> :(
[08:07] <slashx1896> how do i create a new one?
[08:07] <Locke> have you enabled universal repositories?
[08:07] <MasterObi-WanK_> any knows how to fix the video and sound for the Intel 915gm chipset with an 12.1 inch lcd  on a Asus W5 laptop ?
[08:07] <towsheba> yes
[08:07] <towsheba> ill try it again
[08:07] <mark_> how can I get ubuntu to print out status info every 2 seconds (as my knoppix box
[08:07] <mark_>  does?)... try: vmstat 2 | awk '$1 ~ /[0-9] +/{if ($12>max) {max=$12};print "#"NR"-", $12, max} ; {print}'
[08:08] <slashx1896> Agmotto: how do i create another one for /home?
[08:08] <Hobbsee> slashx1896: you'd have to either use the install cd, and create another one there, or use gparted, and then mount the new partition as /home in /etc/fstab
[08:09] <Agamotto> You tell it to create a partition, give the size you want, select /home as the mount point
[08:09] <mark_> or simply:  vmstat 2 | awk ' {print}'
[08:09] <Locke> is there any way to change the system name?
[08:09] <vladuz976> is there something like mathmathica for linux?
[08:09] <towsheba> w00t
[08:09] <towsheba> its going locke :D
[08:09] <slashx1896> im on the partition disks, screen of the ubuntu installer, where it says This isanoverview of your currenttly configured... blahblahblah
[08:09] <sherwin> hello guys!i have already install samba, when i try to access my ubuntu machine, i can't see the filders from my win machine. how do i share ubuntu folders to winbox?
[08:09] <towsheba> if I was a girl I would hug you
[08:09] <MasterObi-WanK_> how can I get the lastest Xorg , fetching it from a repository ?
[08:09] <towsheba> but im not so i wont
[08:09] <towsheba> but thnx
[08:09] <towsheba> oh damnit
[08:10] <Locke> towsheba: lol, no problem, i've had the same problem
[08:10] <towsheba> it installed 0.9.12
[08:10] <Locke> towsheba: ?
[08:10] <Locke> lol
[08:10] <towsheba> i need .14
[08:10] <towsheba> i have the deb for 14
[08:10] <towsheba> so ima give that ago again
[08:10] <Hobbsee> slashx1896: hit manual partition, and go from there
[08:11] <Hobbsee> slashx1896: create a new partition, (you might have to resize another one), and mount it as /home - it's one of the options
[08:11] <navarone> Hobb> does he resize his current / partition and use the new space for home?
[08:11] <Siorai> *drops jaw* wow
[08:11] <slashx1896> not an option, optinons are, configure software raid, confuigure logical voulme manager, guided paritiong and help on partitiong
[08:11] <Locke> towsheba: well, what is the big difference between .12 and .14?
[08:11] <Siorai> I had no idea the ubuntu project was so gigantic
[08:11] <towsheba> .14 actually works
[08:11] <towsheba> .12
[08:11] <towsheba> the menus dont show in ubuntu
[08:11] <towsheba> you get xterm
[08:11] <towsheba> restart
[08:11] <towsheba> and exit
[08:12] <towsheba> i had 14 before
[08:12] <towsheba> but for somereason
[08:12] <towsheba> its not working now
[08:12] <Locke> towsheba: well, give me the deb for it and i'll figure out a way
[08:12] <intelikey> Siorai yeah it is nearly as big as debian   :)
[08:12] <towsheba> k then
[08:12] <towsheba> one second
[08:12] <intelikey> !enter
[08:12] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:12] <Madpilot> intelikey: beat me to it :P
[08:13] <mark_> cafuego: you still here?
[08:13] <Siorai> Intelikey I'm on FC4 right now, not very happy with it. Driving me nuts, I don't even have sound atm.
[08:13] <Locke> intelikey: who are you writing that to?
[08:13] <towsheba_> one second locke
[08:13] <Subsonix> how is it possible to retain the channel topic even is no one is in there any more?
[08:13] <Subsonix> here on freenode
[08:13] <Agamotto> Fedora can be very annoying.  If I wanted things hidden from me, I would own a Mac
[08:13] <slashx1896> Hobbsdee, i dont have a create new partition option
[08:14] <intelikey> Subsonix chanserv
[08:14] <slashx1896> Hobbsee*
[08:14] <Siorai> So farr thoguh, I love the community that you guys have here, a buddy of mine, KVidell, told me about the Ubuntu project, looks awesome, can hardly wait to try it. hehe
[08:14] <Agamotto> Sioari:  Namaste
[08:15] <onkarshinde> Siorai: What other distros have you tried before?
[08:15] <intelikey> subsonix /msg chanserv help
[08:15] <towsheba_> http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73608.deb << here you are locke
[08:15] <Madpilot> Locke: ubotu is our resident bot
[08:15] <Madpilot> !tell Locke about ubotu
[08:15] <Locke> i know what ubotu is
[08:15] <navarone> Siorai> take a look a t this article...a guy explains his installation of ubuntu on his worklplace desktop and his experiences  http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5557.html    <-- Maybe interesting
[08:15] <Siorai> Agamotto Namaste to you as well : )
[08:15] <Locke> madpilot: i was wondering who you were telling !enter TO
[08:15] <towsheba_> http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73608.deb << here you are locke
[08:15] <Madpilot> Locke: towsheba
[08:16] <towsheba> yes
[08:16] <Siorai> Agamotto,  I'm very surprized someone in here knows that term, :)
[08:16] <Agamotto> Siorai:  You have just captured much of the thought behind Ubuntu
[08:16] <towsheba> Madpilot?
[08:16] <MasterObi-WanK_> how can I get the lastest Xorg file ?
[08:16] <onkarshinde> Siorai: Are you Indian?
[08:16] <kvidell> no one talk to Siorai, he's a _loser_ ;-P
[08:16] <Hobbsee> slashx1896: do you have any free space?
[08:16] <Siorai> onkarshinde,  I've tried FC4, a teeny bit of SUSE, and Knoppix, of the three, Knoppix was my choice
[08:16] <Locke> towsheba: alright, give me a minute
[08:17] <pinkisntwell>  isnt there some way to make things smaller on gnome?
[08:17] <Subsonix> intelikey: what do you mean exactly? the guard option?
[08:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> fedora = wannabe debian
[08:17] <Locke> towsheba: so do you know anything about gkrellm or whatever it is?
[08:17] <towsheba_> thnk you very much
[08:17] <slashx1896> hobbsee, no and its installing the basesystem rite now
[08:17] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:17] <towsheba> i dont know what I would do without my flux
[08:17] <Siorai> onkarshinde,  no, I learned it from an old aol chatroom called Spiritual Insights back in like, 99-00 or something
[08:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !win32codecs
[08:17] <ubotu> see !w32codecs
[08:17] <kvidell> <3 Siorai.
[08:17] <towsheba> has any one installed the aol server4?
[08:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !w32codecs
[08:18] <intelikey> Subsonix you asked how a topic could be kept without anyone in a channel,  the answer it 'chanserv'
[08:18] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[08:18] <Agamotto> Locke:  It is a system monitor applet, has all sorts of plug ins and whistles
[08:18] <Subsonix> intelikey: i have registered the channel with chanserv, doesn't help
[08:18] <Subsonix> intelikey: so you need to be more specific
[08:18] <Locke> Agamotto: well... where does it save to, cuz i just installed it and i hate opening things with terminal
[08:18] <intelikey>  /msg chanserv help topic
[08:18] <towsheba> you can go to accesories then system and gkrellm is in there
[08:19] <towsheba> so terminal is not needed
[08:19] <Subsonix> intelikey: No help available on topic
[08:19] <Agamotto> Not sure.  It may not show up in our lists until your next boot of x
[08:19] <Locke> geuss i have to restart X for it to show up
[08:19] <Agamotto> open a termina for now and type gkrellm
[08:20] <Agamotto> should just pop up somewhere on the screen
[08:20] <Locke> i know
[08:20] <drbyte> heh, any motu packagers here?
[08:20] <Locke> i did that, i just hate having to open things with terminal, cuz then i have to have 2 tabs open
[08:20] <Siorai> I'm still amazed that someone has the "Siorai" name on the forums, I swear, I own this name on like half the forums on the internet, battle.net, aim, even gmail
[08:20] <Agamotto> I have eight open right now
[08:21] <talios> drbyte, try #ubuntu-motu
[08:21] <intelikey> Subsonix i'm not familear with freenodes chanserv but the one on chatjunkies you 'set' the topic and have chanserv 'watch' the channel for you.   the online help should tell you how. Subsonix
[08:21] <varsendagger> ok so i'm in the wiki doing the gpg key thing and the sent me a huge garble of code, how do i decode it?
[08:21] <Agamotto> Siorai:  I can understand that.  I have been using Agamotto for over... 18 years now
[08:21] <os2mac> anyone  having trouble logging into wiki?
[08:21] <intelikey> brb
[08:21] <Siorai> I came up with this one, because Siorai, is greek, it means Eternal
[08:22] <Siorai> aim = eternlloveoflife
[08:22] <nekostar> i see the w32deb link is dead for breezy
[08:22] <varsendagger> os2mac, kinda, i'm having trouble doing the gpg thing
[08:22] <Locke> towsheba: what distro did you have this version of fluxbox on?
[08:22] <os2mac> I like mine just because of the dog turning the head sideways look I imagine people get when they see it the first time.
[08:22] <towsheba_> the latest ubuntu
[08:23] <Locke> towsheba: hmmm...
[08:23] <towsheba_> i installed it
[08:23] <towsheba_> and in the menu i accidently hit metacity
[08:24] <towsheba_> i hated meta
[08:24] <towsheba_> so i restarted
[08:24] <Subsonix> have you read the thing about Gnubuntu on www.ubuntux.org?
[08:24] <towsheba_> and the login and everything was in console mode
[08:24] <jirwin> hello
[08:24] <towsheba_> i could not do anything to change it back
[08:24] <Locke> towsheba: how did you install it the first time?
[08:24] <os2mac> varsendagger: I am trying to login to wiki and it won't take my passwd
[08:24] <towsheba_> so i just reinstalled ubuntu
[08:24] <jirwin> is there anyway to set my eth0 to take priority over my wireless ath0
[08:24] <towsheba_> just added it to the synptec
[08:24] <varsendagger> To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.   <--- how the heck do i decrypt the message?
[08:24] <towsheba_> synaptic
[08:25] <jonathon> hello
[08:25] <Locke> towsheba: have you tried doing that again?
[08:25] <varsendagger> os2mac, have you loged in before?
[08:25] <towsheba_> Yes
[08:25] <towsheba_> but the difference now
[08:25] <towsheba_> is theres no ubuntu logo next to it
[08:25] <blue-frog> jirwin, /etc/network/interfaces
[08:25] <towsheba_> and its .12
[08:25] <towsheba_> not .14
[08:25] <towsheba> gets on my nurves
[08:26] <jonathon> ive never had to do my own kernel before but im running i386 kernel and i want to get a better kernel can i get it from the apt-get?
[08:26] <Locke> towsheba: hmmmm... i don'
[08:26] <towsheba> .12 does not work properly with ubuntu
[08:26] <Locke> t know, i'm having a problem getting it
[08:26] <Agamotto> jonathon:  What is your kit?
[08:26] <jonathon> agamotto: what do you mean by my kit
[08:26] <jirwin> blue-frog, what am I looking for in there
[08:27] <os2mac> varsendagger:no.... but I just created my account on launchpad as it instructs
[08:27] <jirwin> primary network interface?
[08:27] <Agamotto> jonathon: processor, mobo, etc
[08:27] <towsheba> ill take a screenshot the next time i get a error
[08:27] <jonathon> 5.04 hoary?
[08:27] <jonathon> ok
[08:27] <not_benh1> howdy all
[08:27] <Siorai> I love how winders savvy I am and yet, nearly everything in this room flies right over my head, bloody interesting though...
[08:27] <mark_> os2mac: ya, I'm not able to get a response from the wiki
[08:27] <varsendagger> i'm at the same point
[08:27] <noway> Is it possible to mount an iso file so that it boots when I restart my computer, just like if I had a cd?
[08:27] <nalioth> Siorai: it wont take long before this stuff is hitting you in the face
[08:27] <jonathon> my computer is a laptop its a 3.2ghz thats about all i really know
[08:28] <os2mac> siorai.... don't feel bad I am a Unix admin and I don't know what they are talking about half the time.
[08:28] <varsendagger> nalioth, To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.   <--- how the heck do i decrypt the message?
[08:28] <Agamotto> Siorai:  You will learn in time... I am still quite new at many things, but after 20 years of using computers, I can translate most things into workable layterms
[08:28] <Siorai> nalioth: I'm sure.. hah, but I love it all, every last bit
[08:28] <blue-frog> jirwin, in that file change the order of ath0 and eth0 should do what you want to obtain
[08:28] <navarone> Siorai> http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5557.html  <-- try this link to read about one guy's experience installing ubuntu at work
[08:28] <Locke> Agamotto: you wouldn't have any idea's would you?
[08:28] <jonathon> i started using linux yesterday for the first time ever
[08:28] <Agamotto> jonathon:  Most likely a Pentium 4 or M?
[08:28] <Siorai> os2mac,  thought linux arch. was simliar to Unix?
[08:29] <jonathon> it took me 9hours to successfully compile mplayer with all the stuff that goes with it
[08:29] <os2mac> no mind you that I must temper my statement by saying that I am a Trusted Solaris sysadmin so it's not like anything you will ever see on the street.... it's only used by governments and banks.
[08:29] <navarone> Siorai> linux works on macs too
[08:29] <Agamotto> Locke:  Sorry, what was the question again?
[08:29] <jonathon> its a p4
[08:29] <mark_>  ... and http://launchpad.net/ seems down too
[08:29] <Siorai> navarone,  PPC right?
[08:29] <Agamotto> Ahhh, you want the 686 kernel from synaptic then
[08:29] <Siorai> that's IBM's proc, correct?
[08:29] <Locke> Agamotto: he's having trouble installing fluxbox 0.9.14, we've tried installling through aptitude, but thats not the latest version
[08:29] <jonathon> agamotto: its a 3,2ghz p4 with 512mb ram that is shared with the 9100 mob radeon
[08:29] <navarone> I guess so Siorai...lol
[08:30] <os2mac> Siorai and similar is the operational word.... there are a bunch of things you can do in Linux that you can't do on a traditional Unix distro... even down to the command level.
[08:30] <Agamotto> Locke:  Hmmm, search freshmeat for .0.9.14 with deb?
[08:30] <os2mac> there are command switches for just about everything that only exist in Linux.
[08:30] <jonathon> agamotto: the kernel that is currently installed is the i386, i must assume it will run faster if i get the p4 kernel?
[08:30] <towsheba> i hope it works
[08:30] <Locke> Agamotto: he has the deb, but i don't know how to isntall stuff very well...
[08:30] <Agamotto> jonathon:  Some things will, most smaller tasks won't notice much
[08:31] <Agamotto> Locke:  ahh, so the incantation of dpkg  -i has been done?
[08:31] <jonathon> agamotto: so my next question is the images that are on apt-get for i686 kernels
[08:31] <navarone> johnathon...I have upgraded from default i386 to 686 and finally k7 for my amd
[08:31] <varsendagger> jonathon, you should apt-cache search mplayer and and apt-get it
[08:31] <Locke> Agamotto: that was giberish to me, lol
[08:31] <Siorai> os2mac,  well, I don't really know either one, so, I'm still kinda learning the ropes, but I do a lot of command line junk in winders, so, i'm nto commandlinephobic
[08:31] <jonathon> varsendagger: its too later its already compiled
[08:31] <os2mac> Locke: did you sacrifice your goat? :)
[08:32] <varsendagger> with gui?
[08:32] <jonathon> yes with everything
[08:32] <Agamotto> Locke:  In a terminal, go to the dir that the file was downloaded to, and type dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[08:32] <varsendagger> impressive, that is three days you'll never get back
[08:32] <jonathon> i evern got the win32 codecs to run too ;P
[08:32] <Agamotto> Locke:  Litterally, DePacKaGe -i(nstall) program.deb
[08:33] <jonathon> it wasnt 3 days.. there is some pretty intellegent people i had helping me in the mplayer irc
[08:33] <jonathon> it was like 9 hours
[08:33] <varsendagger> i gave up twice it took 30 seconds to apt-get it
[08:33] <Siorai> Agamotto does #ubuntu have a stats page?
[08:33] <Agamotto> jonathon:  Yes, you were asking about the i686 packages?
[08:33] <os2mac> Siorai: lemme say this about that... I take great amusement in the fact that MS started out by stripping all the networking features out of UNIX and making it a standalone OS (that's where DOS came from) and they have spent the last 20 or 30 years putting all that stuff right back in again to suppor t internet/networking....
[08:33] <Locke> Agamotto well it's working for me so far...
[08:33] <varsendagger> with gmplayer
[08:33] <Agamotto> Siorai: I have no idea
[08:33] <Locke> towsheba: get it working? cuz i just did
[08:33] <jonathon> agamotto: yes will i damage my machine if i get it? im pretty new to linux (yesterday installed)
[08:34] <Agamotto> jonathon:  Nah, at worst, you will have a new entry in your bootloader that might flake out
[08:34] <navarone> varsendagger> io did the same with stellarium...installed enuff new compiling software and still no dice...so fired up synaptic and voila
[08:34] <windex> i need help.  every time that I ./configure a package and then go to "make install" it says that "make" is an unknown command?  Sorry, I'm a linux newbie.
[08:34] <Siorai> os2mac,  I've never been a fan of winders, since the first time I messed around with 3.1...
[08:34] <jonathon> you should check out this program i found
[08:34] <Locke> towsheba: hello?
[08:34] <jonathon> checkinsall
[08:34] <Agamotto> windex:  Proper steps are 1. configure 2. make 3. make install
[08:34] <jonathon> install
[08:34] <navarone> windex> dl build-essentials package
[08:34] <varsendagger> aplications like apt-get nad emerge are the way of the future
[08:35] <syngiun> can I ask help questions here?  I searched the forums and I cant find my answer...
[08:35] <jonathon> i wanted to install gentoo
[08:35] <os2mac> Varsendagger: guess I am not writing my LiveCD boot options wiki tonight then huh?
[08:35] <Siorai> os2mac,  the way I saw it, if an NES could translate code into picture on a screen instantly, why couldn't windows do it?
[08:35] <jonathon> but i didnt work out so good
[08:35] <windex> thanks, i'll try that
[08:35] <Seveas> jonathon, apt-get install gentoo
[08:35] <jonathon> really?
[08:35] <varsendagger> os2mac, or my mplayer streams
[08:35] <Seveas> !info gentoo
[08:35] <jonathon> bs?
[08:35] <ubotu> gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 728 kB, Installed size: 2336 kB
[08:35] <Seveas> there...
[08:36] <Agamotto> Gentoo is not for beginners
[08:36] <Siorai> !info stats
[08:36] <navarone> Agamotto...I'm thinking Weird Science ...if you are from that era...lol
[08:36] <os2mac> Siorai:I must admit that the more recent versions are "getting there" I actually like XP Pro.... but the reason I am running Linux is because it's easier to translate commands at the end of a work day.
[08:36] <Siorai> navarone !! Oingo Boingo = my favorite ban
[08:36] <[Jonne] > small question for anyone using dapper: is it 'safe' to do apt-get dist-upgrade now? I was waiting because i read about some problems with x
[08:36] <Locke> towsheba: helloooooooooo
[08:36] <Agamotto> navarone: Yep, I built three MSX computers back in those days
[08:36] <jonathon> yeah i didnt think that would be true
[08:37] <Seveas> jonathon, it is
[08:37] <varsendagger> Seveas, can you help me decode my gpg fingerprind deal for loging into wiki?
[08:37] <navarone> Siorai> TherSpecials one of mine...hence the name from Guns of navarone
[08:37] <jonathon> genoo in apt is just a damn file manager
[08:37] <Siorai> os2mac,  I've had some pretty high success with XP Pro, I don't have a whole lot of complaints really,
[08:37] <towsheba> Locke: http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73609.jpg
[08:37] <Seveas> varsendagger, you don't need gpg to login
[08:37] <blue-frog> [Jonne] , safe if you want to do testing and filing bugs. not if you want to work with your ubuntu..
[08:37] <Locke> towsheba: working?
[08:37] <syngiun> I followed the getting started guide for 5.10 and now every web browser and email prog don't even start...  I get the "startimg firefox" box in the bottom panel, limewire does connect tho...
[08:37] <Siorai> navarone,  how much Boingo have you herd?
[08:37] <towsheba> http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73609.jpg << flux works but not properly
[08:38] <towsheba> look at the menu http://www.freeuploader.com/view.php/73609.jpg << once again
[08:38] <navarone> Siorai...not a lot. I wasn't a new waver type...lol
[08:38] <[Jonne] > ok then
[08:38] <Seveas> syngiun, which "getting started" guide?
[08:38] <Seveas> syngiun, if it was ubuntuguide.org: you're screwed and probably better reinstall
[08:38] <os2mac> Seveas: wiki doesn't seem to be accepting passwd's atm.... at all.
[08:39] <Siorai> haha, I was only born 21 years ago, so I never really got to see em in their 'prime' so to speak, but I really do lvoe them, Danny Elfman is a god, navarone
[08:39] <Locke> towsheba: :-\ i'm out of idea's let me log out and see if it works right for me
[08:39] <syngiun> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[08:39] <towsheba> ok thnk you :D
[08:39] <os2mac> Siorai: I saw them in concert for Deadman's Party.....
[08:39] <Agamotto> Siorai:  You should have been around London in 1981... much music
[08:39] <Seveas> syngiun, that ought to work
[08:39] <MasterObinWanK> syngiun, whats the url for the 5.10 guide ?
[08:39] <jonathon> what does smp mean in regards to a kernel
[08:40] <Seveas> jonathon, symettric multiprocessing
[08:40] <varsendagger> Seveas, i am halfway in the process of getting the gpg so i can upload packages and sign the agreement, hyave you done that?
[08:40] <navreet> hi, I am running 64bit breezy... but I can't install azureus... any ideas? [I have universe and multiverse selected] 
[08:40] <Agamotto> jonathon:  multiple processors, which you don't have
[08:40] <Siorai> os2mac,  bastard!  I would have loved to have seen em... ;)
[08:40] <syngiun> firefox worked prior, I went thru the entire guide, rebooted, then no web or email
[08:40] <Seveas> varsendagger, ah that part, of course :)
[08:40] <varsendagger> -- i jsut want to take care of it before i go to bed
[08:40] <jonathon> ok great guys
[08:40] <os2mac> Siorai: I couldn
[08:40] <Seveas> varsendagger, lol, I just woke up :)
[08:40] <navreet> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[08:40] <Siorai> Agamotto,  Yeah, although now, I'm a candy raver
[08:40] <jonathon> i have that hyperthreading thing tho
[08:40] <varsendagger> i'm in montana U
[08:40] <os2mac> 't hear for three days afterware
[08:40] <Seveas> navreet, azureus is not in there :)
[08:40] <Seveas> !azureus
[08:40] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:40] <Agamotto> varsendagger:  What part of Montana?
[08:41] <Siorai> Hahaha awesome
[08:41] <Seveas> varsendagger, the netherlands ;)
[08:41] <varsendagger> bozocity
[08:41] <varsendagger> cool
[08:41] <MasterObinWanK> syngiun, whats the url for the 5.10 guide ?
[08:41] <towsheba> use Rodi or DDL - p2p/bitt suck
[08:41] <Siorai> utorrent is fantastic
[08:41] <syngiun> I even uninstalled the firestarter packages,  still no web or mail
[08:41] <varsendagger> Agamotto, where are you
[08:41] <syngiun> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[08:41] <os2mac> varsendagger I used to live in Coeur D'alene, ID
[08:41] <varsendagger> cool
[08:41] <varsendagger> os2mac,
[08:41] <Siorai> DDL ?
[08:42] <Agamotto> varsendagger:  Moline, Illinois, USA.  Find Chicago, then go 240km due west until you hit Iowa
[08:42] <varsendagger> Seveas, can you help me decode the code that the launchpad peopel sent me
[08:42] <syngiun> I tried to re-install firefox, still no wev
[08:42] <syngiun> web
[08:42] <Seveas> varsendagger, you can do that with gpg
[08:42] <varsendagger> cool
[08:42] <Seveas> if you use evolution, that even should be done automatically
[08:43] <navarone> towsheba> have you heard of mlmonkey? Have looked a ttheir site but dowload pages seesm to be down...not a good sign
[08:43] <Seveas> otherwise just save it to a file and do gpg --decrypt < /path/to/file
[08:43] <Locke> towsheba: working fine for me
[08:43] <jonathon> am i going to need to do anything or when apt-get is done my new kernel will be done just change my bootloader?
[08:43] <towsheba> mlmonkey no
[08:43] <johnnybezak> hey guys, is there somewhere i can get windows media codecs for ubuntu, I know they're restricted just wondering if their was some where unofficial that I could get them
[08:43] <towsheba> oh god damn you locke XD
[08:43] <towsheba> lol
[08:43] <Seveas> jonathon, apt-get takes care of the bootloader, you just need to reboot
[08:43] <towsheba> if I were to setup ssh server or remote dtop
[08:44] <navarone> towsheba> supposed no be multinetwork compliant p2p client
[08:44] <jonathon> johnnybezak: www.mplayerhq.hu
[08:44] <Agamotto> jonathon: You shouldn't have to do anything but reboot to get into the new kernel
[08:44] <towsheba> you want to connect?
[08:44] <Locke> towsheba: lol, /msg me so we don't bother everyone else
[08:44] <jonathon> ok awessome
[08:44] <sabmann> ubotu tell johnnybezaj about w32codecs
[08:44] <towsheba> aim : lovedanimosity
[08:44] <jonathon> why wasnt linux this easy las time i TRIED!!
[08:44] <syngiun> johnny  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:44] <Siorai> I don't like Rodi for one simple reason
[08:44] <Agamotto> jonathon:  If anything goes nuts, reboot back into the i386 kernel
[08:45] <os2mac> Seveas:I am trying to get onto the wiki to add a page but it won't take my launchpad login.... just my email address... and when I go to my user prefs page it says its the wrong passwd when i tried to save...even though tha the passwd I used to login with...
[08:45] <johnnybezak> syngiun: read my post please I said that I'm aware that they are restricted
[08:45] <Siorai> The same reason why Azureus isn't as good... Java...
[08:45] <Locke> towsheba: ok... still not working?
[08:45] <os2mac> Seveas: any ideas/
[08:45] <sabmann> ubotu tell johnnybezak about w32codecs
[08:45] <Agamotto> jonathon:  Things have improved in the last three years, especially with the likes of UBuntu
[08:45] <towsheba> no
[08:45] <Seveas> os2mac, cay you still login at launvhpad.net?
[08:45] <towsheba> msn : iamcloacked@hotmail.com
[08:45] <Locke> towsheba: how did you install it?
[08:45] <syngiun> johnny  follow the instructions on that url,  it tells you how and gives you a link...  RTFM!!!
[08:45] <jonathon> i would so wish to have gentoo instead though
[08:45] <towsheba> with synaptec
[08:46] <navarone> jonathon>last linux install I did mess my partion table some how. Maybe fragmented windows partion b4 install<shrug> I got network card to run fianlly did a urpmi auto select to do updates and I think hosed the setup trying to dl too much...lol
[08:46] <slashx1896> yay i finnaly have ubuntu running!
[08:46] <johnnybezak> does anyone know of debs that are PPC for the win32codecs?
[08:46] <Locke> towsheba: how do i open folders in fluxbox... lol
[08:46] <os2mac> Seveas: yes with my email address....
[08:46] <towsheba> terminal
[08:46] <towsheba> cd
[08:47] <towsheba> or you get fileman
[08:47] <jonathon> lol
[08:47] <Locke> towsheba: ... and you want this over gnome... WHY?
[08:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> good job slashx1896
[08:47] <jonathon> my partitions on my hd were a mess
[08:47] <towsheba> because its better
[08:47] <towsheba> trust me
[08:47] <jonathon> i have like 9 partitions for windows
[08:47] <towsheba> try it out
[08:47] <Seveas> os2mac, the wiki gets its login info directly from launchpad...
[08:47] <towsheba> http://themes.org <<<
[08:47] <slashx1896> i dont have internt tho...
[08:47] <Locke> towsheba: whats the command to show files?
[08:47] <syngiun> johnny  enable universe and multiverse in synaptic,  search for w32codecs
[08:47] <Seveas> so if launchpad works, the wiki should too
[08:48] <towsheba> transparancy terminals/shells :D
[08:48] <slashx1896> well my interent on ubuntu isnt working
[08:48] <towsheba> it comes in handy
[08:48] <jonathon> you can download the codecs from www.mplayerhq.hu like i said
[08:48] <towsheba> especially when running alot of windows in one workspace ( wifi cracking)
[08:48] <Locke> whats the command to show files in a directory?
[08:48] <towsheba> ls
[08:48] <towsheba> ls /dir/dir******
[08:48] <Subsonix> have you read the thing about Gnubuntu (a new Ubuntu derivative) on www.ubuntux.org?
[08:48] <Locke> towsheba: what directory is the file in?
[08:48] <Locke> towsheba: the deb
[08:48] <navarone> jonathon> my windows partion has errors as we speak. On fat32 not ntfs so chkdsk no work...Partition Magic complains when it loads and then exits...but it still runs fine <knock wood>
[08:49] <towsheba> Home
[08:49] <navreet> Seveas, thanks
[08:49] <Agamotto> Well, I must away.  Time to pass out for a few hours.
[08:49] <Locke> towsheba:?
[08:49] <os2mac> Seveas: and it will let me login... just won't let me save my preferences..... the name is set to my wiki name and not my email address....
[08:49] <towsheba> Locke: home
[08:49] <os2mac> and returns an error that says password is invalid.
[08:49] <slashx1896> can someone help me get interent on ubuntu?
[08:49] <syngiun> what could be in the 5.10 getting started guide that would cause web browsers and email clients to not even start...
[08:49] <syngiun> ???
[08:50] <varsendagger> Seveas, i'm getting no vaild open gpg data found
[08:50] <towsheba> home/towsheba/ << flux .14 deb is located
[08:50] <Locke> towsheba: alright, open up a terminal and type dpkg -i filenam.deb
[08:50] <towsheba> k
[08:50] <Beleys> Yop
[08:50] <syngiun> what does that mean when web and email progs won't start, but limewire runs fine......?????
[08:51] <navarone> towsheba> is flex like xfce...where you can choose session at login?
[08:51] <navarone> flux rather
[08:51] <Locke> navarone: yes
[08:51] <Seveas> varsendagger, post a screenshot of the mail on the pastebin
[08:51] <johnnybezak> jonathan: will they work with gstreamer?
[08:51] <deFrysk> syngiun, usually pebkac
[08:51] <Seveas> deFrysk, :)
[08:52] <slashx1896> Can someone please help me, i dont have ineternet on ubuntu.. i dont know why i dont though..., my connecton is fine
[08:52] <navarone> xfce installed a few interesting goodies. Like fstab mount manager...nice thing to have
[08:52] <towsheba> oh dur dur dur
[08:52] <towsheba> im a f*cktard
[08:52] <navarone> slash> are you ona winmodem?
[08:52] <towsheba> im trying to run i386
[08:52] <towsheba> on a amd64
[08:52] <os2mac> slash: what kind of connection? wired or wireless?
[08:52] <towsheba> XD
[08:52] <slashx1896> wireless
[08:52] <Locke> towsheba: ... wow
[08:52] <towsheba> thats why it messed up last time
[08:52] <syngiun> deFrysk   fu a$$hole
[08:53] <jirwin> ok, so I want to be able to use my wireless, but when I come to my desk and plug in to my ethernet cable, I want it to use that instead
[08:53] <towsheba> it installed for what ever reson
[08:53] <towsheba> then it jacked up
[08:53] <towsheba> this time it caught it
[08:53] <jirwin> any ideas? running breezy
[08:53] <towsheba> now to find 64bit flux :-S
[08:53] <mrkoje> slashx, goto the shell and type   ifconfig
[08:53] <mrkoje> see if your network cards are set up
[08:53] <Seveas> towsheba, flux as in fluxbox?
[08:54] <Locke> towsheba: you got AIM?
[08:54] <navarone> jirwin are you docking a notebook?
[08:54] <towsheba> aeonflux - alexander the great
[08:54] <towsheba> XD
[08:54] <towsheba> no fluxbox
[08:54] <towsheba> i mean yes fluxbox
[08:54] <towsheba> dont listen to me any one
[08:54] <slashx1896> mrkoje, shell meaning terminal?
[08:54] <towsheba> i tried installing i386 to amd64
[08:54] <jirwin> navarone, not docking, but when I come to my desk, I would like to use my gigabit
[08:54] <Locke> towsheba: do you have AIM?
[08:54] <mrkoje> slashx, yes
[08:54] <towsheba> yes
[08:54] <towsheba> aim name 1 : lovedanimosity
[08:55] <towsheba> aim name 2 : nietforgotten
[08:55] <towsheba> msn : iamcloacked@hotmail.com
[08:55] <Siorai> woweezers
[08:55] <towsheba> yahoo : iamcloacked@yahoo.com
[08:55] <slashx1896> mrkoje, ok i tpyed it
[08:55] <Ce_Dreaku> Hello, does anybody know what software should I look for in Ubuntu if I need a DJ Mixing utility like Virtual DJ for example?
[08:55] <towsheba> gmessenger : iamcloacked@gmail.com
[08:55] <slashx1896> how can i tell if there setup?
[08:56] <Locke> towsheba: are you on any of them?
[08:56] <ElBarono> what's the next release called, and is it stable yet?
[08:56] <ElBarono> I mean, relatively stable
[08:56] <varsendagger> how do i take a screenshot ctrl prtscrn? or do i need soething else
[08:56] <Ce_Dreaku> Hello, does anybody know what software should I look for in Ubuntu if I need a DJ Mixing utility like Virtual DJ for example? or at least please recomend a good mp3 player
[08:56] <slashx1896> mrkoje, i typed ifconfig in the terminal, now how do i tell if the cards are set up?
[08:56] <navarone> varsendagger...System/Screenshot
[08:56] <ElBarono> ce_dreaku: xmms
[08:56] <Seveas> ElBarono, The Dapper Drake and it's unstable
[08:57] <Seveas> Ce_Dreaku, that'll not suffice
[08:57] <os2mac> Seveas: any ideas about wiki?
[08:57] <Seveas> xmms is not really a dj-ing tool
[08:57] <Seveas> os2mac, not really
[08:57] <ElBarono> it's a good mp3 player though
[08:57] <Ce_Dreaku> is there any such dj-ing tool?
[08:57] <Seveas> yes there is
[08:57] <Ce_Dreaku> hey good mp3 player will do
[08:57] <Seveas> I can't remember the name :S
[08:57] <navarone> audacity?
[08:58] <Ce_Dreaku> I don't think so
[08:58] <Ce_Dreaku> audacity is something else
[08:58] <ElBarono> dbmix - DJ mixer for digital audio streams
[08:58] <Ce_Dreaku> it's more of an editing tool
[08:58] <Ce_Dreaku> but how do I install dbmix? I tried but couldn't get it to work
[08:58] <Ce_Dreaku> what is the corect command line?
[08:58] <slashx1896> uhm?
[08:58] <ElBarono> gjay - An automatic and learning DJ for xmms
[08:58] <ElBarono> pytone - Music jukebox with advanced features for DJs and a text-mode user interface
[08:58] <navarone> dreaku...if you r adventurist you can check out projects in freshmeat or sourceforge...but quality varies
[08:59] <slashx1896> What do i do after i type 'ifconfig'?
[08:59] <jirwin> slashx1896, for what?
[08:59] <slashx1896> jirwin, see if my network cardsare set up
[08:59] <jirwin> ifconfig will show you
[08:59] <Siorai> Just exactly how much financial backign DOES sourceforge have anyway?
[08:59] <varsendagger> thanks
[08:59] <slashx1896> i dont understand how to read it and see if they are setup
[09:00] <giany911> how can i mount an image ? ... iso ? in ubuntu ?
[09:00] <varsendagger> Siorai, 1 million dollars
[09:00] <honey> haloooooooo
[09:00] <Seveas> giany911, mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[09:00] <Ce_Dreaku> good question, I think there is a nero linux application that can do that also
[09:00] <giany911> seveas ty
[09:01] <Siorai> varsendagger for costs of admin, server, electricity, etc
[09:01] <Siorai> that would go very fast...
[09:01] <Seveas> Siorai, please take off-topic discussions somewhere else
[09:01] <giany911> how about a .mdf?
[09:01] <giany911> ce_dreaku ...esti roman ?
[09:02] <Seveas> maybe bchunk can convert it ti iso giany911
[09:02] <giany911> ok ty
[09:02] <slashx1896> jirwin; it looks like they are but i cant tell
[09:02] <Mabus06> !it
[09:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[09:02] <giany911> ce_dreaku esti roman bre?
[09:03] <Mabus06> giany911, what language are you speaking?
[09:03] <giany911> mabus06 romanian :)
[09:03] <giany911> i asked some one if he's from romania too
[09:03] <Mabus06> aye
[09:03] <giany911> ;)
[09:04] <Seveas> giany911, please etick to english in her so we can be sure you're not swearing ;)
[09:04] <Seveas> stick*
[09:04] <giany911> seveas ok sorry
[09:04] <slashx1896> ok can someone help me on geting interent on ubuntu, im kinda confused...
[09:05] <DAVIDS> apa
[09:05] <giany911> ?
[09:06] <NAiL> Hi all... I've tried getting sound to work for a couple of hours now. It's a via AC97 device, recognized and module loaded. No matter what I do, I can't get *any* sound. Anyone got any ideas?
[09:06] <os2mac> OK I just don't understand.... I must be an id10t.....
[09:06] <giany911> did u check the volume ?
[09:06] <slashx1896> im the one here whos an idiot...
[09:06] <giany911> i got the same card and i hv sound
[09:06] <Siorai> NAiL, I have the same problem on FC3
[09:07] <NAiL> giany911: yeah, I've tried maxing everything
[09:07] <Siorai> erm, that is to say, FC4.... exactly the same problem, it sucks *pouts*
[09:07] <NAiL> no joy :-\
[09:07] <giany911> nail .. do know then i hv the same i got a via k7vt2 and my sound works fine
[09:07] <slashx1896> i cant read and understand ifconfig and see if my cards are setup...
[09:07] <giany911> dont know :)
[09:07] <varsendagger> where is the ubuntu pastebin?\
[09:07] <Myrtti> erm, how can I check which locales are installed?
[09:08] <bob_4_a_day> !paste
[09:08] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:08] <mike_douglas> I have this really odd bug affect Xorg in dapper. Colors from windows beneath the current one seem to be leaking through, but only when black is displayed.
[09:08] <mike_douglas> seems to be a device driver problem, as it doesn't show up in screenshots
[09:09] <giany911> has any1 tried to install nfs mw on ubuntu ?
[09:10] <mike_douglas> any Ubuntu Xorg devs I can talk to?
[09:10] <slashx1896> i cant do shit on ubuntu till iget me internet on it.. but im to confused rite now....
[09:10] <giany911> slashx1896 did u activate eth0 ?
[09:10] <slashx1896> huh
[09:11] <slashx1896> i just got ubuntu installed like 30 minsago.. so i dont know much
[09:11] <slashx1896> wats eth0?
[09:11] <pc22> re: broken packages during installation. and wont fix broken packages. do i have to redownload installer?
[09:11] <giany911> System ->  Administration -> Networking -> click on eth0 and activate
[09:11] <os2mac> slash1986: that is your wired ethernet adaptor.
[09:12] <giany911> slashx1896 got that?
[09:12] <slashx1896> yea  its activated
[09:12] <giany911> so u got net:)
[09:12] <slashx1896> no i dont
[09:12] <giany911> then how are u speaking with me ?
[09:12] <giany911> on irc ?
[09:12] <slashx1896> im on a different computer
[09:12] <giany911> ow
[09:12] <giany911> wait
[09:13] <slashx1896> i have a laptop and a desktop rite next to eachother
[09:13] <NiklasH_1ork> hi, anyone else having problems starting firefox on breezy?
[09:13] <giany911> go to ... networking again
[09:13] <slashx1896> the desktop is running ubuuntu
[09:13] <slashx1896> ubuntu
[09:13] <slashx1896> ok
[09:13] <giany911> go to networking again
[09:13] <giany911> then click on etho and properties
[09:13] <slashx1896> ok
[09:13] <giany911> check enable this conn ... the on configuration select dchp
[09:14] <giany911> *dhcp
[09:14] <slashx1896> ok
[09:14] <giany911> now ok
[09:14] <giany911> and u must hv net
[09:14] <giany911> works ?
[09:14] <slashx1896> Activating interface "eth0"
[09:14] <giany911> yea
[09:14] <giany911> thats what is supposed to say
[09:14] <slashx1896> i know
[09:14] <slashx1896> lol
[09:14] <giany911> :)
[09:15] <slashx1896> il tell u when its done..
[09:15] <giany911> ok
[09:15] <bob_4_a_day> turn the collid-a-nick very slowly.....
[09:15] <slashx1896> done
[09:15] <slashx1896> now lets c if i got net
[09:15] <giany911> got net ?
[09:15] <giany911> try google ..
[09:15] <drumline> I got milk
[09:15] <giany911> :))
[09:15] <giany911> lol
[09:16] <slashx1896> www.google.com could not be found. please chekc nmane and try again
[09:16] <slashx1896> o.O
[09:16] <giany911> fam
[09:16] <giany911> dam
[09:16] <giany911> go to networking again
[09:16] <slashx1896> ok
[09:16] <giany911> and .. u know what ip and gateway u must hv ?
[09:16] <slashx1896> yea
[09:16] <giany911> put them manually
[09:16] <pc22> hello giany911
[09:16] <giany911> hi ..
[09:16] <slashx1896> i cant under DHCP
[09:17] <giany911> ho
[09:17] <giany911> no
[09:17] <giany911> static ip instead of dhcp
[09:17] <pc22> 911 pls
[09:17] <giany911> pc22 ?
[09:17] <varsendagger> Seveas, can i just give you my screenshot for the gpg problem?
[09:17] <pc22> re: broken packages during installation. and wont fix broken packages. do i have to redownload installer?
[09:17] <pc22> i meant ubuntu
[09:17] <slashx1896> ok
[09:17] <giany911> synaptic?
[09:17] <giany911> ubuntu is broken ?
[09:18] <slashx1896> still no net, this time when i go to google nothing happens
[09:18] <pc22> i downloaded a new installer
[09:18] <varsendagger> slashx1896, is this a new problem?
[09:18] <pc22> i want to install to a new comp
[09:18] <slashx1896> last time it said google not found, now it doesnt do anything
[09:18] <giany911> slashx1896 then .. i out of ideas ..try wiki
[09:18] <bob_4_a_day> varsendagger: it is a new install so i'd guess it was.
[09:19] <NAiL> Siorai: I got sound now ;)
[09:19] <slashx1896> wiki?
[09:19] <z0rz> What c compiler is installed on ubuntu?
[09:19] <varsendagger> my dsl dumps so every f hours or so i hve to change it back
[09:19] <bob_4_a_day> gcc
[09:19] <Siorai> NAiL,  awesome stuff, how'd you get it to work?
[09:19] <NAiL> Siorai: I had to change the number of channels to 6 (Why beats me, but now I have music)
[09:19] <bob_4_a_day> z0rz: you need to install built-essential
[09:20] <varsendagger> i had the change the /etc/resolv.conf    just to 4.2.2.1
[09:20] <mike_douglas> build-essential
[09:20] <slashx1896> giany911: wiki?
[09:20] <giany911> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[09:20] <bob_4_a_day> !b-e
[09:20] <varsendagger> or rather nameserver 4,2,2,1
[09:20] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[09:20] <giany911> go to networking ..and i think u will find something there
[09:20] <varsendagger> or rather nameserver 4.2.2.1 ahhh
[09:20] <giany911> slashx1896
[09:20] <giany911> u must add dns for the ip to work
[09:20] <giany911> slashx1896 u know what dns u got ?
[09:21] <slashx1896> under network settings should there be a loctation? (on the top)
[09:21] <z0rz> bob .. why wasn't that installed by default?
[09:21] <giany911> slashx1896 do u know your dns ? ... u must 2 i think
[09:21] <slashx1896> nope
[09:21] <giany911> do u hv same provider on the desktop as on the laptop ?
[09:21] <slashx1896> yea
[09:21] <bob_4_a_day> z0rz: i had nothing to do with building the install iso's
[09:22] <slashx1896> there both using simular wireless cards, both conncted to same router
[09:22] <z0rz> I assumed you didn't.. but I was hoping you (or someone else) would have a logically explanation of why that wasn't included
[09:22] <varsendagger> msg Seveas, i can't find a pastebin that's up can i send you the jpg
[09:22] <giany911> slashx1896 wireless ?
[09:22] <slashx1896> yes
[09:22] <giany911> well i dont know how to configure that
[09:22] <bob_4_a_day> z0rz: the answer i got on it was "anyone needing a c compiler can surely install the extra package"
[09:22] <slashx1896> o.O
[09:23] <z0rz> I see
[09:23] <giany911> in that list .. with etho u got any thing else there?
[09:23] <slashx1896> Modem
[09:23] <giany911> thats all ?
[09:23] <slashx1896> yeah
[09:23] <giany911> well u should see the wifi card
[09:23] <slashx1896> and under dns i have 1 dns server
[09:24] <giany911> u are not using etho
[09:24] <z0rz> woot.. working nicely.. thanks bob
[09:24] <giany911> u are using a wireless card ....
[09:24] <bob_4_a_day> np
[09:24] <slashx1896> yeah...
[09:24] <giany911> ..well i dont know how to help u :(
[09:24] <slashx1896> aw, its ok, il find someone else
[09:24] <bob_4_a_day> !wifi
[09:24] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:25] <bob_4_a_day> slashx1896:  go there   ^
[09:25] <slashx1896> that for wireless cards?
[09:25] <giany911> yep
[09:25] <slashx1896> k
[09:25] <bob_4_a_day> yessir
[09:25] <HowardDrake> which wireless chipset are you using for your card?
[09:25] <HowardDrake> sorry if I missed that part
[09:25] <w0rd54> !tvinfo boondocks
[09:25] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, w0rd54
[09:26] <slashx1896> HowardDrake: me?
[09:26] <HowardDrake> yes
[09:26] <kzm> Anybody know how to list functions imported by a binary?
[09:27] <afb> how do i open the dvd drive?
[09:27] <slashx1896> i dont know what chipset im using
[09:27] <kzm> Similar to ldd, but showing each function, not just the .so
[09:27] <afb> it is /dev/hdc
[09:27] <kzm> afb, eject button?
[09:27] <HowardDrake> what's the manufacturer and model?
[09:27] <mrga> hi all
[09:27] <slashx1896> linksys
[09:27] <slashx1896> and..
[09:27] <afb> kzm, doesn't open when i hit that button
[09:27] <TheBeast> hello
[09:27] <slashx1896> i can findout the model
[09:27] <slashx1896> hold on
[09:27] <yatesy> afb: make sure its unmounted first
[09:27] <kzm> afb, is it mounted?
[09:27] <afb> how?
[09:27] <HowardDrake> if its linksys you're running a Broadcom chipset
[09:27] <mrga> need command for flasing DNS
[09:27] <yatesy> umount
[09:27] <slashx1896> here
[09:27] <kzm> afb, type 'mount' and see if it is listed
[09:28] <afb> umount /dev/hdc?
[09:28] <bob_4_a_day> kzm ltrace might be able to get that for you with a pipe through grep
[09:28] <HowardDrake> not a Linux friendly chipset
[09:28] <slashx1896> Linksyswirelss pci card, model : WMP11 ver 2.7
[09:28] <kzm> bob_4_a_day, hmm...I didn't want to run it, if it could be avoided.
[09:28] <TheBeast> the installation guide says "On the first boot after installation, the end user will be asked to select a language, keyboard layout, time zone configuration, and create the first user account."
[09:28] <afb> it is listed on mount
[09:28] <TheBeast> I have an user accound but nothing showed up
[09:28] <TheBeast> help
[09:28] <TheBeast> :)
[09:28] <mrga> need command for flashing DNS
[09:28] <afb> i've never used linux
[09:28] <kzm> afb, umount /media/dvd (or wherever it is)
[09:28] <yatesy> mrga: what the hell is "flashing" dns?
[09:28] <bob_4_a_day> kzm i don't know then
[09:28] <afb> k, thx
[09:28] <kzm> afb, or 'umount /dev/dvd'
[09:29] <mrga> my network is to slow
[09:29] <bob_4_a_day> parse the sourse maybe
[09:29] <kzm> afb, it may not work, if a process is holding open a file on it.
[09:29] <HowardDrake> are you having problems setting it up with ndiswrapper?
[09:29] <kzm> afb, look up 'fuser', which can tell you which process it is.
[09:29] <mrga> and i have dsl 1,5/1 mb
[09:29] <mrga> and i can open any web
[09:29] <TheBeast> Hell with ubuntu
[09:29] <mrga> only if is ip
[09:30] <TheBeast> good night
[09:30] <slashx1896> HowardDrake: whats nidswrapper?
[09:30] <nalioth> Seveas: are you here?
[09:30] <mrga> for google is 77.95. .......
[09:31] <mrga> i tray firefox and mozila but same story
[09:31] <HowardDrake> ndiswrapper is what you use to wrap a Windows driver for use in Linux
[09:31] <afb> hmm...
[09:32] <afb> trying to get vlc to play a dvd
[09:32] <HowardDrake> since there are no real native linux drivers for that card
[09:32] <afb> anyone done this?
[09:32] <slashx1896> ok how do i get it on my desktop (the one running ubuntu atm)
[09:32] <mrga> need command for this " [ Network Stats ]  Device: eth0 | Hostname: ms012 | Data: In: 141793063 (135.2 Mb)  Out: 262560424 (250.3 Mb)"
[09:32] <HowardDrake> well download the windows drivers
[09:32] <viviersf> afb, you installed dvdread3 and dvdcss and dvdnav ?
[09:32] <slashx1896> on my laptop or desktop?
[09:33] <afb> viviersf, no... i didn't know about those...
[09:33] <viviersf> kk
[09:33] <slashx1896> i guess laptop, cause i cant dl on desktop with out internet :P
[09:33] <HowardDrake> whichever machine is running Linux
[09:33] <viviersf> afb, private
[09:33] <slashx1896> oo
[09:33] <agilman> towsheba, sorry, I was away for an hour
[09:33] <slashx1896> well my laptop is running windows xp, and m desktop is running ubuntu
[09:33] <mrga> yatesy
[09:33] <bob_4_a_day> slashx1896: if you have no network access on the desktop, then you will have use the lappy for the dl and copy it over....
[09:33] <agilman> towaseba, actually I tried going to bed, but ... insomnia
[09:34] <afb> viviersf, i dont see those in the package list and i got universe and multiverse added...
[09:34] <agilman> towsheba, did you figure it out?
[09:34] <viviersf> wait
[09:34] <HowardDrake> thanks for the assist Bob
[09:34] <slashx1896> so dl the ndiswrapper on my laptop?and burn to a cd and transfer over to the desktop?
[09:35] <bob_4_a_day> get the driver too no need in burning two cds
[09:35] <HowardDrake> no
[09:35] <HowardDrake> you need to get ndiswrapper running on your desktop
[09:35] <HowardDrake> ndiswrapper is a package
[09:36] <HowardDrake> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=ndiswrapper+HOWTO
[09:36] <HowardDrake> check this out
[09:36] <slashx1896> shouldi get 1.5 since 1.6 is testing still
[09:36] <towsheba> wow
[09:36] <HowardDrake> yeah
[09:37] <HowardDrake> go with stable
[09:37] <towsheba> that laststep workspace is the best :D
[09:37] <towsheba> does not look like much when you google for it
[09:37] <towsheba> but once you install it
[09:37] <towsheba> it r0x
[09:37] <giany911> any1 tried to install nfs mw on ubuntu ?
[09:37] <ogg> If I create a partition for ubuntu, and install ubuntu on it beside winxp on a ntfs-partition. Is there any possibilities to erase this linuxpartition, merge to one partition and make it ntfs later?
[09:38] <ogg> dont know the name of the ubuntupartition. ext3..
[09:38] <giany911> ogg if u merge 2 partitions ..its the risk of loosing the stuff on them
[09:38] <mjr> ogg, yes; remove the ubuntu partition and extend the ntfs partition into the space
[09:38] <ogg> ok
[09:38] <ogg> thanks
[09:39] <ogg> this is possible with partition magic?
[09:39] <bob_4_a_day> ogg yes you can delete a linux partition and reclaim the space for M$ windows if you like.
[09:39] <giany911> yes
[09:39] <slashx1896> so download ndiswrapper, and put it on cd, and download my driver from linksys website and put on same cd?
[09:40] <bob_4_a_day> sure
[09:40] <ogg> anyone running breezy on a thinkpad T41?
[09:40] <ogg> gosh, bought a ibm thinkpad t41. its so sweet. totaly silent.
[09:41] <slashx1896> do i get driver from linksys website or from my pci card cd?
[09:41] <HowardDrake> I tend to get the website
[09:41] <bob_4_a_day> check both
[09:41] <HowardDrake> more up-to-date driver
[09:42] <z0rz> wtf... make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.
[09:42] <z0rz> I just ran make config btw
[09:42] <z0rz> after I ran ./configure
[09:42] <kubuntito> hello
[09:42] <afb> [00000270]  dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source:
[09:42] <afb> [00000269]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'
[09:42] <afb> [00000260]  main playlist: nothing to play
[09:42] <kubuntito> does anybody use thunderbird ?
[09:42] <z0rz> nope
[09:42] <kubuntito> what do u use z0rz  ?
[09:42] <z0rz> that's of the past.. you must be the only one
[09:43] <z0rz> Thunderbird
[09:43] <bob_4_a_day> beets me z0rz, look for any docs in the dir.
[09:43] <giany911> dam theres no support for my tuner under ubuntu
[09:43] <z0rz> it's freaking eggdrop
[09:43] <kubuntito> i can't send e-mails and i don't know why
[09:43] <z0rz> try changing your search terms from ubuntu to debian
[09:43] <kubuntito> i can get them but not send any
[09:43] <z0rz> imap or pop3?
[09:44] <slashx1896> wow my driver hassnt been updates since november 2002
[09:44] <kubuntito> pop3
[09:44] <afb> anyone have any ideas on problem with my dvd playback?
[09:44] <HowardDrake> you're still running an ancient 802.11b card
[09:44] <kubuntito> but that is for get them
[09:44] <slashx1896> yeah..
[09:44] <z0rz> what email servers are you using?
[09:44] <HowardDrake> another option is get a 802.11g card that is more Linux compatible
[09:44] <kubuntito> i thing something is wrong with the smtp configuration or something like, but i don't know what's the problem
[09:45] <kubuntito> smtp.gmail.com
[09:45] <HowardDrake> Netgear uses Atheros which is much better supported under Linux
[09:45] <kubuntito> and pop.gmail.com
[09:45] <slashx1896> cant do that atm, is it requried? or can ijust stick with my 802.11b card
[09:45] <bob_4_a_day> z0rz: what version of eggdrop ?
[09:45] <HowardDrake> no
[09:45] <HowardDrake> just a suggestion
[09:45] <slashx1896> ok
[09:45] <z0rz> http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285
[09:45] <z0rz> 1.6.17 I belive
[09:46] <HowardDrake> are you running Breezy or Hoary?
[09:46] <bob_4_a_day> 1.6.17-3 (breezy)
[09:46] <bob_4_a_day> just apt-get it
[09:46] <kubuntito> i followed that z0rz
[09:46] <z0rz> Did you change your port to 587?
[09:46] <kubuntito> exactly the same steps
[09:47] <kubuntito> yes and i put TSL
[09:47] <kubuntito> TLS*
[09:48] <kubuntito> what can i do z0rz  ?
[09:49] <kubuntito> uh
[09:49] <kubuntito> is so strange
[09:50] <kubuntito> i fix it
[09:50] <kubuntito> good
[09:50] <kubuntito> :)
[09:51] <z0rz> what was wrong?
[09:51] <HowardDrake> in a related query regarding Thunderbird, how can I set it so any mailto: links open it instead of Evolution?
[09:51] <slashx1896> ok my driver and ndiswrapper are being burned to a disc
[09:51] <kubuntito> i put as @gmail.com
[09:52] <kubuntito> and u only need the user...
[09:52] <z0rz> newb
[09:52] <z0rz> ;)
[09:52] <kubuntito> sometimes we don't should do whatever we read
[09:52] <kubuntito> sure z0rz  :))
[09:53] <kubuntito> i used gmail webpage for get the mail in gentoo with e17 last week :))
[09:54] <z0rz> $ make config
[09:54] <z0rz> make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.
[09:54] <z0rz> Can anyone help me (that's when installing eggdrop 1.6.17
[09:54] <kubuntito> make ./config
[09:54] <slashx1896> HowardDuke: i have both ndiswrape and my driver on my desktop pc
[09:54] <kubuntito> ;)
[09:54] <slashx1896> now what?
[09:54] <HowardDrake> did you grab ndiswrapper as a tar.gz or as a deb?
[09:54] <bob_4_a_day> z0rz: why do you not install the deb ?
[09:55] <slashx1896> tar.gz
[09:55] <z0rz> because when I did I couldn 't find the .conf
[09:55] <z0rz> eggdrop.conf that is
[09:55] <slashx1896> i think
[09:55] <slashx1896> it says its tar.tar
[09:55] <HowardDrake> slash, are you running breezy or hoary?
[09:55] <kubuntito> but i think u don't need make any .configure before
[09:55] <slashx1896> uhm?
[09:55] <slashx1896> i dunno
[09:56] <kubuntito> anyway make a ls -la and tell me if there are any config ...
[09:56] <bob_4_a_day> slashx1896: uname -r
[09:56] <HowardDrake> thanks bob
[09:56] <z0rz> $ make ./config
[09:56] <z0rz> make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.
[09:56] <slashx1896> 2.6.12-8-386, i get that when i type uname -r
[09:56] <z0rz> If I knew where the eggdrop.conf file was then I could just install it with the deb
[09:57] <HowardDrake> you're running Breezy
[09:57] <slashx1896> ok
[09:57] <HowardDrake> so actually you might not need the ndiswrapper file
[09:57] <slashx1896> just the driver?
[09:57] <HowardDrake> Try going into Synaptic
[09:57] <HowardDrake> yup
[09:57] <slashx1896> k
[09:57] <slashx1896> where is synaptic?
[09:57] <HowardDrake> breezy probably has a recent enough version of ndiswrapper already there
[09:58] <HowardDrake> Under the System menu
[09:58] <HowardDrake> Administration, and then select Synaptic
[09:58] <slashx1896> synaptic package manager
[09:59] <slashx1896> ok
[09:59] <HowardDrake> thats it
[09:59] <slashx1896> now what do i do while im insynaptic?
[09:59] <bob_4_a_day> z0rz:  install and  'sudo find / -name "*eggdrop*" '
[10:00] <HowardDrake> do a search for "ndiswrapper"
[10:00] <z0rz> I did a locate eggdrop and I didn't see the .conf
[10:00] <kubuntito> make a updatedb
[10:00] <kubuntito> first
[10:00] <z0rz> I did
[10:00] <trygve> anyone know anything about running rsync in daemon mode?
[10:00] <slashx1896> it found
[10:00] <kubuntito> so strange
[10:00] <slashx1896> nidswrapper-utils
[10:00] <z0rz> and running eggdrop said no .conf file
[10:00] <slashx1896> nidwrapper-utils*
[10:00] <slashx1896> ugh ccant type lol
[10:01] <HowardDrake> I got it
[10:01] <trygve> nope =p
[10:01] <HowardDrake> Select that
[10:01] <slashx1896> ok
[10:01] <HowardDrake> and the -source one too
[10:01] <slashx1896> only 1 came up
[10:02] <HowardDrake> ok
[10:02] <slashx1896> and mark for installation?
[10:02] <HowardDrake> yup
[10:02] <slashx1896> ok
[10:02] <z0rz> alright I'm installing now
[10:02] <slashx1896> now hit apply?
[10:02] <z0rz> using synaptic
[10:02] <bob_4_a_day> hey do you think ndiswrapper would let me use a winmodem ?
[10:03] <z0rz> Dude I think it's gonna work this tie
[10:03] <z0rz> I typed eggdrop and it said make sure you eidt your config file compeletely
[10:03] <slashx1896> howardDrake: after i mark for installaton do i hit apply?
[10:03] <z0rz> Yes slash
[10:03] <slashx1896> ok
[10:03] <slashx1896> just makin surel ol
[10:03] <slashx1896> lol*
[10:03] <slashx1896> ok its done
[10:04] <z0rz> ok I found the example eggdrop.conf ... but where do I put it?
[10:05] <bob_4_a_day> ~
[10:05] <slashx1896> HowardDuke: Its done being installed, now what do i do?
[10:06] <HowardDrake> well we're most of the way there
[10:06] <z0rz> I don't think so bob
[10:06] <slashx1896> ok
[10:06] <slashx1896> now how do i wrap my driver or w/e?
[10:07] <HowardDrake> one sec while I verify procedure
[10:07] <slashx1896> alrite
[10:07] <MAPD> hi
[10:07] <HowardDrake> I usually use Atheros chipsets
[10:07] <MAPD> need help please
[10:07] <HowardDrake> so I never go through this
[10:07] <slashx1896> o ok
[10:07] <MAPD> first the sources.list gives me errors
[10:07] <MAPD> :\
[10:07] <HowardDrake> Hey Bob, try http://www.linmodems.org/
[10:07] <MAPD> and second to go to the net on linux i need to set a static ip gateway and nameserver but im  not able to add a nameserver
[10:08] <MAPD> please help
[10:08] <qas> hey guys ... i wrote a bash script, but always when i execute it there is always online "sh-3.00#" and i have to type "exit" before it will be executed...
[10:08] <MAPD> but i need to fix
[10:08] <MAPD> the internet
[10:08] <MAPD> to configure the nameserver
[10:09] <MAPD> i need to set 3 ips
[10:09] <MAPD> i can only set 2
[10:10] <bob_4_a_day> qas pastebin the script and ill give it a look.
[10:10] <bob_4_a_day> !paste
[10:10] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:10] <HowardDrake> :-D
[10:10] <HowardDrake> actually I prefer to play frozen bubble while waiting
[10:11] <slashx1896> lol i dont have that
[10:11] <slashx1896> and i give up on blackjack i lost 5 times ina row
[10:11] <slashx1896> lol
[10:11] <HowardDrake> as soon as you get your wireless running get it
[10:11] <qas> bob_4_a_day, http://pastebin.com/440705
[10:11] <slashx1896> as soon as you finsih helping me i will ;)
[10:11] <giany911> hooray i made my tuner work :D finally
[10:12] <bob_4_a_day> looking
[10:12] <HowardDrake> :-D
[10:12] <Shastao> anyone know anything about easy Japanese input from a US keyboard in linux?  I'd like to have something similar to Global IME for windoze if possible.
[10:12] <slashx1896> wow this robot game is pritty messed up
[10:13] <bob_4_a_day> qas  your first line is ' /bin/sh '    should  be  '#!/bin/sh '
[10:13] <slashx1896> hows it goin Drake?
[10:13] <HowardDrake> coming along
[10:13] <slashx1896> ok
[10:14] <HowardDrake> I'm talking to my gf in China as well
[10:14] <iveqy> hello, I need some help, my tft monitor is only displaying 640*480 @ 60 Hz, and I can't change it...
[10:14] <slashx1896> o ok, take ur time.. just hope i can get interent soon... i dont hacve this laptop for long
[10:14] <HowardDrake> you should have it within the hour
[10:14] <qas> bob_4_a_day, yeah ... thx. that was it ... but where is the difference?
[10:14] <slashx1896> alrite
[10:15] <slashx1896> need it before 7 estn
[10:15] <HowardDrake> well I'm in the EST too
[10:15] <slashx1896> cool
[10:16] <bob_4_a_day> with #!   it tells the system that it is a bash script   with out the  #!  it executes a bash shell   and when you close it continuse to execute the commands in the script.
[10:16] <HowardDrake> late night job hunting and such
[10:16] <coz> morning all or afternoon
[10:16] <DRAGON_Ultra> morning
[10:16] <HowardDrake> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91732&highlight=ndiswrapper+HOWTO
[10:16] <HowardDrake> this is a great walkthrough
[10:17] <bob_4_a_day> qas                   ^
[10:17] <HowardDrake> just sub your driver for the belkin one
[10:17] <Steil> is there a way to stop the "unable to eject media" or whatever popup when right click unmounting a usb drive?
[10:17] <qas> bob_4_a_day,  hmm?
[10:17] <bob_4_a_day> with #!   it tells the system that it is a bash script   with out the  #!  it executes a bash shell   and when you close it continuse to execute the commands in the script.
[10:18] <coz> Steil I have the same problem with one of my flash drives, but I ususally ignore that
[10:18] <Steil> coz: Yeah, it's fun to ignore, but if theres a way to turn it off I bet we'll both be happier :)
[10:19] <coz> myone flash drive was manufactured in europe and it gives me just alittle trouble here
[10:19] <coz> well i see it as an indicator of the media not the OS
[10:19] <slashx1896> ug my cd drive wont open...
[10:19] <HowardDrake> lovely
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> another one......   that has got to be a bug....
[10:20] <slashx1896> o nvm
[10:20] <slashx1896> lol
[10:20] <coz> slashx1896 get a paper clip
[10:20] <slashx1896> ifixed it lol
[10:20] <samu2> slashx1896, mines been stuck a long time already
[10:21] <slashx1896> myne wasnt stuck  i was just being stupid
[10:21] <HowardDrake> it happens to all of us
[10:21] <slashx1896> didnt know i had to rite click on my disk and hit eject... ll
[10:21] <slashx1896> lol
[10:21] <HowardDrake> we all learn
[10:21] <coz> slashx make a shortcut key  for the keyboard to open it
[10:21] <slashx1896> brb
[10:21] <coz> I would like to find another shortcut key to close it as well
[10:22] <coz> I assigned the windows key to open the cd tray
[10:22] <bob_4_a_day> command to close is 'eject -t /dev/blah'
[10:22] <patrickub> hi
[10:22] <coz> really? can that be assigned a shortcut key?
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> yep
[10:23] <coz> OK! how would I do that?
[10:23] <Sonium> does anybody know wich version of x.org ubuntu uses?
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> just change blah to what ever device yours is..... mine is /dev/hdd
[10:23] <coz> let me try
[10:24] <bob_4_a_day> !info xserver-xorg
[10:24] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[10:24] <coz> how would I add this item to the shorcut list?
[10:24] <coz>  or is there another application for this?
[10:24] <Corrupter> how do i change the permissions on files in terminal?
[10:24] <coz> chown
[10:25] <coz> chown -R
[10:25] <Steil> Corrupter: chmod
[10:25] <bob_4_a_day> Corrupter: 'man chmod'
[10:25] <coz> chown -R user name /file location
[10:25] <Steil> coz: Thats for owner, not permissions :)
[10:25] <coz> I realixe that it is quick
[10:25] <bob_4_a_day> coz he didn't ask to own them just mod them
[10:25] <coz> owning is better!! lol
[10:26] <Corrupter> ok... lol, how do i change persmissions on a file that only root can change without using terminal?
[10:27] <bob_4_a_day> sudo in the term.... without a term    alt+f2
[10:28] <slashx1896> back
[10:28] <HowardDrake> wb
[10:28] <coz> how set shortcut key for cd tray close?
[10:28] <slashx1896> HowardDuke: cd /media/cdrom0/drivers/ doesnt work
[10:28] <Sonium> if a new version of x.org comes out will there be packages available?
[10:29] <CaptainMorgan> does emacs typically print color or no?
[10:29] <HowardDrake> it wouldn't for you
[10:29] <slashx1896> o what do  i put in?
[10:29] <HowardDrake> try browsing to the CD-ROM
[10:29] <slashx1896> ok
[10:30] <slashx1896> im browsing it now
[10:30] <coz> Is it possibel to add a shortcut key sequence to the keyboard shortcut key list?
[10:30] <Corrupter> i don't understand this chown thing
[10:30] <HowardDrake> you should have the zip file for the drivers
[10:30] <crimsun> MasterObinWanK: ask the bot here.
[10:30] <bob_4_a_day> yes coz
[10:30] <coz> chown -R allows you to own what is otherwise a root owned file
[10:30] <coz> bob_4_a_day OK but how?
[10:31] <Corrupter> it says invalid application -- r
[10:31] <[nige] > anyone know how to setup tvtime
[10:31] <slashx1896> nope
[10:31] <coz> not --r,  -R
[10:31] <slashx1896> but i have the setup
[10:31] <[nige] > and tel it what card to use?
[10:31] <Corrupter> thats what i did
[10:31] <Corrupter> chown -r
[10:31] <bob_4_a_day> coz i don't use gnome, do you want me to walk you through the steps in kde ?
[10:31] <coz> chown -R username /file/location
[10:31] <coz> sorry I use gnome
[10:31] <coz> but go ahead
[10:32] <Corrupter> still says invalid operation
[10:32] <slashx1896> HowardDrake, shoudl i install th driver?
[10:32] <HowardDrake> no
[10:32] <HowardDrake> oh wait
[10:32] <coz> are you logged in as root on the terminal?
[10:32] <Corrupter> yes
[10:32] <slashx1896> shold i zip all th files for the driver into 1?
[10:32] <coz> chown space -R
[10:33] <coz> space username space /File/lication
[10:33] <HowardDrake> no
[10:33] <SnakeChomp> Dont know if this is the right spot, but I have a gnoppix 1.2 beta1 live cd that refuses to work at all on the laptop I tried to boot it onto. Console services fail to start, and the X server fails to load its keyboard module leaving me with a rather unuseful system.
[10:33] <Corrupter> invalid operation
[10:33] <HowardDrake> if they're unzipped thats perfect
[10:33] <slashx1896> yeah its unzipped
[10:33] <coz> you did su root right
[10:33] <slashx1896> what do i do with the files?
[10:33] <Corrupter> yes
[10:33] <SnakeChomp> Is there anything I could be doing about this or should I just get one of the previous cds?
[10:34] <coz> Corrupter is  you did su rooot then password, and spelled everything correctly it should work
[10:34] <Corrupter> chown -r
[10:34] <HowardDrake> excellent
[10:34] <Corrupter> invalid option
[10:34] <coz> NO
[10:34] <coz> chown -R
[10:35] <coz> capitol R
[10:35] <slashx1896> HowardDrake, what do i do now?im confused
[10:35] <HowardDrake> sorry
[10:35] <HowardDrake> do you have a terminal window open
[10:35] <bob_4_a_day> Corrupter: why are you owning recursively anyway ?
[10:35] <slashx1896> yes
[10:35] <Corrupter> too few options, lol
[10:35] <bob_4_a_day> Corrupter: why are you owning recursively anyway ?
[10:35] <coz> OK example
[10:35] <HowardDrake> ok
[10:35] <Corrupter> bob_4_a_day: i don't know!
[10:36] <Corrupter> bob_4_a_day: everyone is telling me to
[10:36] <HowardDrake> what folder are the drivers located in on the CD-ROM?
[10:36] <coz> chown -R my name /usr/share/icons
[10:36] <bob_4_a_day> well dont.
[10:36] <coz> you don't have to corruptor
[10:36] <Corrupter> that works
[10:36] <bob_4_a_day> Corrupter: what are you trying to get to happen there ?
[10:36] <Corrupter> fix it all
[10:36] <slashx1896> CD-RW/DVDR Drive: WMP11V27
[10:36] <slashx1896> o wait
[10:36] <Corrupter> alright, next question, how do i put Opera into my applications
[10:37] <giany911> how can i see if a tv tuner remote has been loaded?
[10:37] <slashx1896> thats the card cd rom not the one i downloaded from the site
[10:37] <slashx1896> hold on
[10:37] <bob_4_a_day> fix what Corrupter ?
[10:37] <HowardDrake> that will work
[10:37] <slashx1896> o ok
[10:37] <HowardDrake> since the drivers haven't been updated for 3 years
[10:37] <Corrupter> i fixed it
[10:37] <slashx1896> lol
[10:37] <Corrupter> i'm just tyring to put Opera in my applications
[10:37] <slashx1896> il get a new one when iget the chacne to
[10:37] <bob_4_a_day> ok i give up......
[10:37] <slashx1896> ok now what?
[10:38] <coz> bob_4_a_day how about that walkthrough for the shortcut key?
[10:38] <kubuntito> which program do u use for programm ?
[10:39] <kubuntito> programming
[10:39] <HowardDrake> in the terminal, type in 'ls /media/cdrom0'
[10:39] <Madpilot> Corrupter: adding Opera to the menus is easy
[10:39] <Madpilot> !tell Corrupter about opera
[10:39] <slashx1896> ok
[10:39] <bob_4_a_day> menu > configuration > system > kde > pariferals > keyboard     select shortcut keys      select edit
[10:39] <bob_4_a_day> coz ^
[10:39] <coz> got I will try something on gnome
[10:39] <coz> got it
[10:40] <Corrupter> madpilot: that didn't help, i already have it installed, but it's not in my menu
[10:40] <coz> no edit on gnome that I can see
[10:40] <coz> let me look again
[10:40] <boa-chan> umm
[10:40] <boa-chan> after running ./confgiure
[10:40] <boa-chan> make doesnt work
[10:40] <boa-chan> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop/MPlayer-1.0pre7try2# make
[10:40] <boa-chan> bash: make: command not found
[10:40] <Madpilot> Corrupter: go and read the wiki page, there's a section on adding Opera to your menus...
[10:40] <bob_4_a_day> coz maybe right click on a shortcut   that also works in kde
[10:40] <crimsun> boa-chan: apt-get build-dep mplayer-586
[10:40] <coz> nope no editiing shortcut keys other than the keysequence itself
[10:41] <slashx1896> HowardDuke: i got some stuff inblue text then some other stuff in greentext, thegreentexted ones seem to be fils
[10:41] <coz>  I cannot add cloe cd tray to the list
[10:41] <coz> close
[10:41] <crimsun> boa-chan: make sure you have the main, universe and multiverse repos enabled
[10:41] <boa-chan> hmm
[10:41] <boa-chan> under snaptic ?
[10:41] <crimsun> yes
[10:41] <bob_4_a_day> probably can in ~/.gnome<blah>
[10:41] <coz> I will have to see if there a a utility for this in gnome
[10:42] <HowardDrake> blue ones are folders
[10:42] <giany911> how can help me with my tv tuner remote
[10:42] <slashx1896> ok
[10:42] <slashx1896> now what do ido?
[10:42] <giany911> who ops :)
[10:42] <coz> thanks anyway bob_4_a_day
[10:42] <boa-chan> crimsun,
[10:43] <boa-chan> make still doesnt work
[10:43] <reter> i am trying to upgrade to breezy and several error messages came up
[10:43] <boa-chan> i did what you said too
[10:43] <boa-chan> isnt make not working a problem with gcc
[10:43] <HowardDrake> what are the folder names?
[10:43] <bob_4_a_day> ok that does it.   i'm gona install ubuntu one more time with gnome just to see if this damn gnome is as unconfigurable as everyone makes it sound......
[10:43] <reter> then i did apt-get -f install and more error messages showed up
[10:43] <reter> what do i do now?
[10:43] <slashx1896> Autorun Manual and Utility
[10:44] <HowardDrake> so it's probably on the root
[10:44] <HowardDrake> thats good
[10:44] <ilba7r> what is the command to know what program is using a specific port say 8834
[10:44] <HowardDrake> do an 'ls /media/cdrom0/*.inf'
[10:44] <crimsun> boa-chan: did you install build-essential in addition to running ''apt-get build-dep mplayer-586''?
[10:45] <boa-chan> crimsun
[10:45] <Shastao> can anyone recommend something easy to use for Japanese input with a US keyboard?
[10:45] <boa-chan> im not worrying about apt get right now
[10:45] <boa-chan> im trying to get make to work
[10:45] <slashx1896> 2 files came up
[10:45] <HowardDrake> and they are?
[10:45] <bob_4_a_day> well here goes a working system with no errors,,,,,   be back in about 30 minutes with errors needing help .....    heh ;/
[10:45] <crimsun> boa-chan: install the 'build-essential' package.
[10:45] <samu2> Shastao, you can use this uim thing, it wasn't too easy to find out what packages to install though.
[10:45] <crimsun> boa-chan: then execute ''apt-get build-dep mplayer-586''
[10:45] <slashx1896> wmp11nds.inf and wmp11v2y.inf
[10:46] <Shastao> does it work at all like global IME for windoze?
[10:46] <samu2> yeah, it's quite similar
[10:46] <xored> how to delete a save xsession ? When i login into xfce he still shows me the 2 sessions
[10:46] <slashx1896> wmp11v27.inf *
[10:46] <MasterObinWanK> crimsun, I can not get my resolution fixed
[10:46] <Shastao> is there a guide or anything on installation?
[10:46] <HowardDrake> ok
[10:47] <HowardDrake> then type in 'cd /media/cdrom0
[10:47] <crimsun> MasterObinWanK: /msg ubotu fixres
[10:47] <giany911> who can help me configure lirc?
[10:47] <slashx1896> ok
[10:48] <Shastao> hmm, I found a page on ubuntuforums about uim, but the poster uses gnome.  I use kde
[10:48] <samu2> Shastao, i think i meant scim
[10:49] <slashx1896> now what do i type?
[10:49] <samu2> Shastao, anyway, i still think it's a bit messy compared to the win IME, and I think you have to do some extra messing around to get it to work with something like openoffice.
[10:50] <samu2> Shastao, i just googled for something like "japanese input ubuntu" and installed all the packages that the page that came up told me to.
[10:50] <HowardDrake> then 'sudo ndiswrapper -i wmpv27.inf'
[10:50] <Shastao> ah.
[10:50] <HowardDrake> well I got the name wrong but you get the gist
[10:50] <slashx1896> lol yea wmp11v27.inf
[10:51] <HowardDrake> yup
[10:51] <slashx1896> Password:
[10:51] <HowardDrake> whatever your logon password is
[10:51] <[nige] > anyone got tvtime to work?
[10:51] <samu2> I'm actually trying it out again now just to see how it worked, and I can't even type the kanji for nihongo.
[10:52] <boa-chan> oh
[10:52] <slashx1896> ok
[10:52] <boa-chan> how do you write japanese on irc using linux
[10:52] <boa-chan> ive never figurerd that out
[10:52] <slashx1896> installingwmp11v27
[10:52] <HowardDrake> ok
[10:52] <giany911> who can help me configure lirc :((
[10:52] <aimless> i have a kinda complicated problem.
[10:53] <slashx1896> host:/media/cdrom0$
[10:53] <HowardDrake> you're back at the prompt
[10:53] <aimless> I set up my mx510 using some tutorial on the forum, and i installed windows on a vmware virtual machine. how can i get my mx510 working as an mx510 in windows?
[10:53] <HowardDrake> then do 'sudo ndiswrapper -l'
[10:54] <slashx1896> installed ndis drivers
[10:54] <slashx1896> wmp11v27    driver present, hardware present
[10:54] <HowardDrake> tada
[10:54] <samu2> boa-chan, if you manage to install this scim input system you might get it to work. Right now it has trouble recognizing what I try to type.
[10:55] <zhongduhang> hello
[10:55] <HowardDrake> now 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'
[10:55] <aimless> who's having ndiswrapper problems?
[10:55] <HowardDrake> I've been helping slashx1896
[10:55] <aimless> ah
[10:55] <bep> hi,
[10:55] <HowardDrake> I think we've got it
[10:56] <bep> Hello
[10:56] <slashx1896> Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[10:56] <aimless> took me three days to figure out how to work ndiswrapper properly if you include manually editing the /etc/network/interfaces file
[10:56] <bep> somebody that speak spanish
[10:56] <MAPD> .ws 61113
[10:56] <samu2> Can I remove openoffice1 now that breezy installed OO2 for me? And if so, what package(s) should I remove?
[10:56] <HowardDrake> we're almost done
[10:56] <MAPD> oops
[10:56] <HowardDrake> and in 2 hours
[10:56] <bep> a moment please
[10:56] <aimless> samu, go into synaptic and search open office
[10:56] <slashx1896> ok
[10:57] <giany911> lirc .. who can help me :((
[10:57] <HowardDrake> now 'sudo ndiswrapper -hotplug'
[10:57] <samu2> aimless, yeah, but i dont wanna remove any packages that OO2 needs by accident
[10:57] <aimless> you won't
[10:57] <slashx1896> ok
[10:58] <dpupp> someone was asking about japanese in irc? 
[10:58] <samu2> aimless, think i just might
[10:58] <aimless> ah well
[10:58] <HowardDrake> cool, I might need Mandarin in about 2 weeks
[10:58] <boa-chan> samu2, whats the package name for scim
[10:58] <bep> Alguien habla espaol?
[10:58] <boa-chan> or w/e it was
[10:58] <samu2> there are a lot of packages called openoffice something
[10:58] <slashx1896> now what?
[10:58] <Madpilot> samu2: you can remove all the basic OOo1 packages; if in doubt leave them
[10:58] <HowardDrake> what did you get?
[10:59] <samu2> boa-chan, i dont remember what i installed, i just googled for it.
[10:59] <dpupp> bep, yo hablo espan~ol.
[10:59] <Madpilot> !es
[10:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:59] <slashx1896> nothing happend just gave me another prompt
[10:59] <boa-chan> i installed and ran the daemon
[10:59] <boa-chan> but like
[10:59] <boa-chan> does it have a gui
[10:59] <dpupp> there we go :)
[10:59] <boa-chan> or something
[10:59] <HowardDrake> it already did it
[10:59] <slashx1896> ok
[11:00] <samu2> boa-chan, well there's this language bar thing that you should be able to display by right-clicking where you are inputting text and changing the input method
[11:00] <boa-chan> on irc ?
[11:00] <HowardDrake> so now you go 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'
[11:00] <bep> hola, como cambio de servidor
[11:00] <samu2> boa-chan, for example
[11:00] <dpupp> bep, /join #ubuntu-es
[11:00] <slashx1896> ok
[11:00] <dpupp> eso te cambiara de cannal.
[11:00] <bep> ok. muchas gracias
[11:01] <bep> ya logr abrirlo.   Es la primera vez que entro a un canal IRC
[11:01] <HowardDrake> now add these 2 lines to the bottom
[11:01] <HowardDrake> 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'
[11:01] <boa-chan> samu2,
[11:01] <boa-chan> where does the gui show up
[11:01] <HowardDrake> 'auto wlan0'
[11:01] <slashx1896> under auto eth0?
[11:01] <HowardDrake> yeah
[11:02] <HowardDrake> and leave a blank line
[11:02] <HowardDrake> I like the cleanliness of it
[11:02] <slashx1896> so do i
[11:02] <HowardDrake> :)
[11:02] <bep> no hay problema si me quedo curioseando
[11:02] <samu2> boa-chan, somewhere on the screen. im not really an expert on using it, i can barely get it to work myself.
[11:02] <HowardDrake> Then Ctrl-X
[11:02] <boa-chan> mine doesnt even show up at all
[11:03] <HowardDrake> and say yes to saving it
[11:03] <boa-chan> are you using gnome ?
[11:03] <samu2> yeah
[11:03] <boa-chan> do you have a run on your gnome
[11:03] <dpupp> bep, no hay problemas, pero en este canal se habla mas el ingles. en el cannal #ubuntu-es se habla espan~ol.  por mi, eres bienvenido. pero no se de los otros.
[11:03] <samu2> maybe you need to relogin or something
[11:03] <slashx1896> ctrl x didnt do anytthing
[11:03] <bep> Ok.    De donde eres?
[11:03] <boa-chan> samu
[11:04] <thebigearl> Hi @ all ! has anyone a idea howto install Ubuntu onto a USB-Stick ?
[11:04] <boa-chan> is there a run function on ur gnome
[11:04] <HowardDrake> sorryt
[11:04] <samu2> a run function?
[11:04] <boa-chan> yeh
[11:04] <HowardDrake> got pico confused with gedit
[11:04] <boa-chan> like run an ap
[11:04] <slashx1896> o ok
[11:04] <HowardDrake> do Ctrl-S to save
[11:04] <slashx1896> what do i do then?
[11:04] <HowardDrake> and Ctrl-Q
[11:04] <slashx1896> k
[11:04] <HowardDrake> to quit
[11:04] <Shastao> is there a way how I can pass say an SSH session running in an X shell (mrxvt to be specific) to a terminal?  I need to restart X but I don't want to lose my ssh connection.
[11:05] <slashx1896> ok
[11:05] <slashx1896> now wat
[11:05] <samu2> boa-chan, umm yeah. you can run apps.
[11:05] <boa-chan> no i mean
[11:05] <boa-chan> a run fuction
[11:05] <HowardDrake> now all you need to do is 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[11:05] <boa-chan> where you type something in
[11:05] <boa-chan> and hit enter
[11:05] <boa-chan> and it runs it
[11:06] <slashx1896> ok
[11:06] <HowardDrake> and you should be up
[11:06] <samu2> boa-chan,  you can do that in a terminal
[11:06] <boa-chan> yeh i know
[11:06] <slashx1896> should i try going to google now?
[11:06] <aimless> My router randomly refuses my connection attempts until I reboot. I use ndiswrapper, any ideas on getting around this problem?
[11:06] <HowardDrake> yeah
[11:06] <dpupp> bep, en este cannal se hace ayuda technica. para reducir "ruido" se habla en el cannal #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <boa-chan> i cant get scim to even show up
[11:06] <boa-chan> lol
[11:06] <bep> Yo soy colombiano
[11:06] <slashx1896> yay!!!
[11:06] <HowardDrake> I am good ;)
[11:07] <slashx1896> yes,yes u are
[11:07] <HowardDrake> now all I need is a job :-D
[11:07] <slashx1896> :D
[11:07] <aimless> anyone?
[11:07] <bep> ouuuppsss
[11:07] <Sonderblade> is there an ubuntu package for bash-completion?
[11:07] <HowardDrake> I'm pondering aimless
[11:08] <HowardDrake> hey slash, what city are you located in?
[11:08] <slashx1896> walled lake michigan
[11:08] <aimless> uhh ok
[11:08] <slashx1896> you?
[11:08] <Madpilot> Sonderblade: do you mean bash tab-completion?
[11:08] <HowardDrake> Philly
[11:08] <slashx1896> kool
[11:08] <boa-chan> samu2,
[11:08] <HowardDrake> yeah
[11:08] <boa-chan> what does this thing look like
[11:08] <HowardDrake> I have a guru friend in Detroit
[11:09] <HowardDrake> and it looks like you're logging in on your new machine
[11:09] <slashx1896_> :D
[11:09] <Sonderblade> Madpilot: yes, extended bash tab-completion
[11:09] <slashx1896_> <--- me on desktop (ubuntu)
[11:09] <boa-chan> Launching a SCIM process with x11...
[11:09] <boa-chan> GTK Panel of SCIM 1.0.2
[11:09] <boa-chan> Starting as daemon ...
[11:09] <boa-chan> i just cant see it
[11:09] <boa-chan> lol
[11:10] <slashx1896> <-- me on laptop (windows xp)
[11:10] <HowardDrake> cool
[11:10] <Madpilot> Sonderblade: I've never had it not work (yet)
[11:10] <aimless> ahh, i want a laptop :(
[11:10] <Sonderblade> Madpilot: there's a bash-completion rpm but I haven't found any deb
[11:10] <HowardDrake> now you can update your linux box
[11:10] <pawan> aimless: if you can't ping, reload the network bits with a script - is a workaround. How frequently does it happen?
[11:10] <HowardDrake> actually I do have a Linux laptop
[11:10] <HowardDrake> but its ancient
[11:10] <slashx1896> drake do u have msn or aim?
[11:10] <HowardDrake> gaim
[11:10] <Lassegs> Is this the right place to get some help for my Ubuntu Laptop?
[11:10] <HowardDrake> so AIM and yahoo
[11:10] <aimless> pawan once a day at least. i can ping, but when i try to connect in firefox, it says 'connection refused by 192.168.1.1'
[11:11] <HowardDrake> linksys router?
[11:11] <Madpilot> Sonderblade: you'll have to ask someone who uses bash a lot more - sorry
[11:11] <aimless> HowardDrake: yes, wrt54g
[11:12] <slashx1896> wats ur screen name drake
[11:12] <HowardDrake> :-d
[11:12] <pawan> aimless: you reboot the router or your machine?
[11:12] <HowardDrake> yahoo or aim?
[11:12] <aimless> pawan: my machine
[11:12] <slashx1896> aim
[11:12] <HowardDrake> I was thinking of a router firmware update
[11:12] <HowardDrake> howardtdrake
[11:12] <aimless> that might work
[11:12] <HowardDrake> check your routers firmware
[11:12] <aimless> how
[11:12] <HowardDrake> or you could go truly linux
[11:13] <HowardDrake> and try using OpenWRT or HyperWRT
[11:13] <soundray> ACPI question: My /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty. Does this mean my board isn't supported?
[11:13] <HowardDrake> basically linux for the router :-d
[11:13] <aimless> i'm afraid I'd mess it up and be without a router
[11:13] <pawan> aimless : have you tried reloading the network bits without rebooting the machine?
[11:13] <Lassegs> Ok, anyone wanna spare 15 minutes to help me fix my minijack outlet on my ubuntu laptop, please msg
[11:13] <aimless> pawan: i don't know how
[11:13] <pc22> how do u network linux to linux?
[11:14] <aftertaf> pc22:  tcp/ip
[11:14] <soundray> pc22: Ethernet
[11:14] <slashx1896> ok i gotta get off this laptop
[11:14] <pawan> aimless: how did you get the network bits going? You can probabably kill it off with an ifconfig eth0 down, but probably best to reverse the order in which you built the stuff up. Then reload again.
[11:15] <HowardDrake> aimless what about a ifdown eth0
[11:15] <pawan> aimless: and then see if it works. If it does, well, then you can script it.
[11:15] <aimless> pawan: i just have it on auto at boot
[11:15] <HowardDrake> followed with a ipup?
[11:15] <HowardDrake> ifup
[11:15] <aimless> huh
[11:16] <aimless> i've never had to do any commands or anything, i just put 'auto wlan0' and 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' in my /etc/network/interfaces' file
[11:16] <sherz> hi I have trouble with konqi and media files look here
[11:16] <sherz> http://sherz.pastebin.com/440743
[11:16] <pawan> aimless : does ndiswrapper work at boot by itself?
[11:16] <pawan> aimless : ah. ok
[11:16] <pc22> soundray, i meant how do i see other pc's folders
[11:17] <sherz> I have also trouble to play medias in ff 1,5
[11:17] <aimless> pawan: yes, ndiswrapper works by itself at boot
[11:17] <j-a-p> Am I being heard?
[11:17] <aimless> yes j-a-p
[11:17] <pc22> i have a network now of ubuntu pcs but iwant to see their files too
[11:17] <j-a-p> aimless: thank you.
[11:17] <pawan> aimless : so I would figure out how to restart your networking stuff. Probably /etc/init.d/networking restart    - see if that does it
[11:18] <pawan> aimless : if it does, then it's a glitch in the ndis or windows driver
[11:18] <aimless> pawan, should i sudo?
[11:18] <_moss> how do i get latest KDE
[11:18] <_moss> errr sorry
[11:19] <_moss> wrong room
[11:19] <soundray> pc22 be with you in a sec
[11:19] <pawan> aimless : you can even test it out now. (yes, you need root to: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:19] <scofield> hello
[11:19] <pc22> soundray, thanks
[11:20] <ubuntu_noob> hi hi.
[11:20] <pawan> if you are still connected, and the command gave no funny error type output, then the thing restarted without a problem.
[11:20] <pawan> aimless : in which case you can try it when the connection dies.
[11:21] <holycow> anyone here use quanta plus?
[11:21] <samu2> How do you grab a screenshot in ubuntu?
[11:21] <holycow> is it possible to preview a php include for example?
[11:21] <pawan> aimless : and if you are feeling really inspired, you can even build a script to test for when connectivity has gone, and restart it automatically.
[11:21] <soundray> pc22, I take it you have the low-level stuff all connected. Tried pinging?
[11:22] <pc22> yeah there is a connection
[11:22] <HowardDrake> gotta run
[11:22] <soundray> pc22, in System-Administration, there is a section "Shared Folders"
[11:23] <Madpilot> holycow: running an Apache/PHP/MySQL stack is easy enough on an Ubuntu machine, if you want to watch PHP in action
[11:23] <pawan> soundray: shared folders works over samba?
[11:23] <pc22> soundray, with internet. i print using cups. but i want to see folders of the other pc
[11:23] <soundray> pc22, declare your shares in there. If you have Breezy, it'll tell you if you need any extra packages installed.
[11:23] <slashx1896_> good nite all, and thanks drake for the help
[11:23] <holycow> Madpilot, of course, i'm testing out the wysiwyg functionality of quanta
[11:23] <pc22> cool, u have time to walk me through?
[11:23] <soundray> pc22, shared folders sets up Samba as well as NFS.
[11:24] <sherz> ok I want to install the ne RC of ff it is better to remove the old before ?
[11:24] <pawan> aimless looks like he got disconnected ;-)
[11:25] <pc22> we use samba even for linux to linux?
[11:25] <stevejesus> hey guys
[11:25] <stevejesus> day 2 with the new 64bit laptop.  this is so fantastic
[11:25] <ubuntu_noob> i've got a question about getting libdvdcss installed, to be more exact, something with compiling is going wrong.  anyone know much about installing libdvdcss?
[11:25] <soundray> pc22, either that or NFS
[11:25] <kvidell> ubuntu_noob: uh.. apt-get install libdvdcss2 usually works for me.
[11:26] <kvidell> there areason you can't do that?
[11:26] <pc22> ok
[11:26] <pawan> pc22: there are other ways. nfs is the old unixy way.
[11:26] <stevejesus> ubuntu_noob, i just built it an hour ago on my new laptop, but it work ok.  what kind of errors are you getting?
[11:26] <soundray> pc22, I personally use ssh and scp for practically everything.
[11:26] <ubuntu_noob> kvidell, mm.  i think i tried that, but i'll try again.  though, i should know how to compile stuff, someday too, if i'm ever to get the hang of linux.
[11:26] <sherz> How can  I remove ff extension by hand ?
[11:27] <sherz> because I get always the message the the will removed after restart but nothing happend
[11:27] <pc22> whats the graphical way?
[11:27] <soundray> pc22, but then my machines are all pretty much standalone.
[11:27] <stevejesus> you guys should pick up cxoffice 5.0.  it works so well and so fast in 64-bit.  its worth it just for the flash and shockwave plugins for 64-bit browsers
[11:27] <ubuntu_noob> stevejesus:  the compile error i get is ...'checking for C compiler default output file name... configure:  error:  C compiler cannot create executables...
[11:27] <stevejesus> flash in cxoffice 5 is so good
[11:27] <boa-chan> samu2, do you know how to kill scim ?
[11:27] <stock> ubuntu_noob, for most software it's just, tar xzfv software.tar.gz; cd software; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[11:28] <stock> so not a lot to compiling stuff on your own
[11:28] <stevejesus> ubuntu_noob, the lazy kix   sudo apt-get install gcc*
[11:28] <stevejesus> fix*
[11:28] <stevejesus> if any of you guys need good flash in ubuntu 64, get cxoffice 5
[11:28] <ubuntu_noob> stevejesus:  hmm.  just gcc?  i thought i got all i needed a moment ago, i'll give that another shot.
[11:29] <redguy> stevejesus, ubuntu_noob: or is it sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:29] <kvidell> mm... actually, in addition to or instead of stevejesus' recomendation, ubuntu_noob, try apt-get install build-essential
[11:29] <kvidell> that'll get you everything.
[11:29] <ubuntu_noob> kvidell; redguy:  ok, i'll give that a try.
[11:30] <pc22> what do i do now?
[11:30] <stevejesus> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[11:30] <stevejesus>      sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:30] <stevejesus> that what i did, as per the wiki
[11:31] <bachstudies> After updating Ubuntu 5.10, the boot splash screen now shows kubuntu. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:31] <ubuntu_noob> ah.  good deal.  the build-essential looks like it got me what i needed to ./configure
[11:31] <holycow> bachstudies, remove the usplash kde artwork
[11:31] <kofj> hello
[11:32] <bachstudies> holycow, thanks very much...although I have no idea how it got there in the first place!
[11:32] <soundray> pc22, decide between NFS and Samba (supported well in Ubuntu) or look up 'network file systems ubuntu' on Google.
[11:32] <holycow> bachstudies, lol sounds weird indeed, i found out the hard way my self
[11:32] <j-a-p> Anyone know how to make a boot disk with support for Wireless, USB and DHCP?
[11:33] <stevejesus> bachstudies, i have the same thing, but on purpose.  i installed ubuntu, and then installed kubuntu-desktop via apt.  then ofcouse i told it to use kdm instead of gdm
[11:33] <stevejesus> bachstudies, you just need to re-enable gdm and you will be fine
[11:34] <xored> how to delete a save xsession ? When i login into xfce he still shows me the 2 sessions
[11:34] <soundray> j-a-p, what's wrong with Ubuntu Live?
[11:34] <bachstudies> holycow, when I try to remove the kubuntu part of usplash it also tells me i have to remove KDE desktop which I don't really want to do
[11:34] <bachstudies> stevejesus, how do you re-enable gdm?
[11:35] <stevejesus> bachstudies, just re-enable gdm
[11:35] <stevejesus> thats all
[11:35] <holycow> bachstudies, its okay, that is just a fake meta package
[11:35] <j-a-p> soundray: I need to enable a USB Wireless dongle - I'm trying to get a Diskless LTSP Thin Client going.
[11:35] <holycow> kde desktop just pulls in all the other kde packages, if you uninstall that you uninstall nothing else
[11:35] <bachstudies> holycow, great thanks
[11:35] <holycow> bachstudies, that is why that package is there, because you have kde desktop installed
[11:36] <pc22> soundray, i guess i start with samba
[11:36] <bachstudies> but i installed that ages ago...and the ubuntu boot splash was on yesterday. Suddenly today, it isn't!
[11:37] <stevejesus> bachstudies, i believe the config file is in /etc/sysconfig.desktop
[11:37] <stevejesus> bachstudies, from there it will be self-explanitory
[11:37] <ubuntu_noob> yay. dvd works
[11:38] <viper111> hello guys
[11:38] <soundray> pc22, good choice. Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19280 and other forum threads for more guidance.
[11:38] <aimless`> i got a kernel panic when i hit enter pawan
[11:39] <soundray> j-a-p, I'd look on the LTSP sites for help with that.
[11:39] <viper111> i need dome help about 2 laptops having wireless net cards having ip add in the same range but they are not seing wach other  (ubuntu OS) does any 1 have an idea about ??
[11:39] <ubunturafa> yeee
[11:40] <soundray> viper111, are you using an access point?
[11:40] <Lassegs> My minijack outlet on the Intel-hda soundcard isnt working at all. ive read the wiki on ubuntulinux.com, it doesnt say anything, ive played around with alsamixer, but that didnt help. i dont know what to do? please help
[11:40] <pc22> soundray, i have a static ip internal network
[11:40] <stevejesus> alright, now to fool ndiswrapper on my x64 and hopefully, i will be able to use this acer wireless card
[11:40] <viper111> soundray, no
[11:40] <viper111> :D
[11:41] <soundray> viper111, have you set wireless-mode to ad-hoc?
[11:42] <kvidell> it's only B, but it's nice.
[11:42] <viper111> soundray, no how can i do that
[11:42] <aimless`> wine is being stupid
[11:43] <aimless`> i get this error when i type wine or try to run things with wine
[11:43] <stevejesus> anyone here have any experience with the SiS sound on these new Aces?  the output it SO low.
[11:43] <aimless`> aimless@what:~$ wine
[11:43] <aimless`> wine: chdir to /home/aimless/.wine/wineserver-what : No such file or directory
[11:43] <aimless`> i could probably make the directory, but it would just give me another error.
[11:44] <redguy> aimless`: tried running winecfg?
[11:44] <soundray> viper111, I can't give you detailed help, but you need the wireless-tools package.
[11:45] <viper111> ok i'll try to search for it rite??
[11:45] <soundray> viper111, just apt-get install wireless-tools
[11:45] <stevejesus> viperIII, after you install wireless tools, there are all sorts of things that you can do with the iwconfig command
[11:45] <viper111> soundray, its installed
[11:46] <soundray> viper111, read the docs. Start with /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian
[11:46] <onkarshinde> My dad's laptop runs hoary currently. I want to test its bluetooth but I don't have any other bluetooth device. Can the testing be done with some kine of loopback or similar thing?
[11:46] <viper111> soundray, 10x man for ur help i'll read it
[11:46] <Seveas> onkarshinde, no
[11:47] <Seveas> and bluetooth is only sort-of working in breezy with the dapper gnome-bluetooth packages...
[11:47] <aimless`> err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '../drive_c'
[11:48] <soundray> If /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty, does it mean my sensors aren't supported?
[11:48] <onkarshinde> Seveas: It is HP laptop and I installed HP Custom CD of hoary on it. Anyway, I will upgrade it once I have broadband connection at my hometown. Or will have to bring laptop to my worktown
[11:48] <aeon17x> soundray: it means your sensor don't exist AT ALL =P
[11:49] <soundray> aeon17x, the BIOS shows temps, though.
[11:51] <soundray> Is there a way to supply motherboard info to the ACPI subsystem, so it'll find the sensors?
[11:52] <redguy> soundray, aeon17x: i seem to have a similar situation
[11:52] <jeri> hello
[11:52] <soundray> redguy, what's your board?
[11:53] <onkarshinde> jeri: Hi
[11:53] <jeri> javascript:runMClick('irc://irc.101-freedom.org/pluto');
[11:53] <jeri> join/efnet
[11:54] <redguy> soundray: hmm, an old MSI. gonna check
[11:54] <soundray> redguy, MSI here, too. Have you tried mbmon?
[11:55] <j-a-p> soundray: Already done that - useless.
[11:55] <jeri> help?
[11:55] <redguy> soundray: erm, not even a msi, I've got an ecs k7s5a
[11:56] <aimless`> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". <----i get that when i typed winecfg
[11:56] <soundray> redguy, I have temp readouts working on another machine with that precise board.
[11:56] <aimless`> is that bad?
[11:56] <redguy> soundray: hyrm, but my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty as well
[11:57] <soundray> redguy, ... with mbmon
[11:57] <redguy> soundray: will check
[11:58] <soundray> j-a-p, is it a CD you want to boot from?
[11:59] <soundray> j-a-p, the best way to build a specialized boot CD is to download Knoppix and modify that according to your needs.
[11:59] <soundray> j-a-p, lots of info on the web about the subject.
[12:00] <soundray> j-a-p, DSL is a slimmed down variant of Knoppix, but it only runs 2.4
[12:01] <soundray> j-a-p, still you might get your dongle working with it.
[12:06] <ubuntu> salve
[12:06] <JBBA> I can't get ubuntu to open ANY of the admin feature from the toolbar and i'm not even getting prompted for a password , any ideas
[12:06] <Br|ce> 'lo
[12:07] <JBBA> Anyone at all....?
[12:07] <soundray> JBBA, does sudo work on the command line?
[12:08] <JBBA> i dunno let me see...the terminal you mean?
[12:08] <soundray> JBBA, yes
[12:08] <JBBA> when i type sudo it shows stuff about the usage
[12:09] <JBBA> what do i do then?
[12:10] <redguy> JBBA: try 'sudo ls' for example
[12:11] <JBBA> then it shows something that says password and it wont let my type anything
[12:11] <Br|ce> JBBA: because it doesn't show little stars doesn't mean you can't type
[12:11] <kofj> ja ,du hast Recht.   you should type your root password
[12:11] <JBBA> no it wont type at all
[12:11] <Br|ce> JBBA: just type your password then press enter
[12:12] <soundray> JBBA, it'll let you type, it just won't echo for security.
[12:12] <redguy> JBBA just enter your password and hit enter
[12:12] <krak`nix> anyone know how i can change the number of desktops
[12:12] <JBBA> okay that worked should that fix it?
[12:12] <krak`nix> without using the panel addon
[12:13] <JBBA> Okay that didn't help the thing still wont pull up it will start to then it just dissapears
[12:13] <soundray> JBBA, type gksudo xlogo and see if it opens a password dialog
[12:13] <JBBA> kay
[12:14] <JBBA> no it dosen't pull up one
[12:15] <JBBA> oh...wait
[12:15] <JBBA> nope none
[12:15] <soundray> JBBA, is gksu installed?
[12:15] <JBBA> does ubuntu 5.10 come with it?
[12:16] <soundray> JBBA, it normally does.
[12:16] <JBBA> okay. then where would i look to see if i have it....i'm relly new to linux
[12:16] <soundray> JBBA, type dpkg -l gksu
[12:16] <soundray> JBBA if the last line starts with ii, then it is installed.
[12:17] <JBBA> it said it failed to find it
[12:17] <soundray> JBBA, okay, do 'sudo apt-get install gksu'
[12:17] <JBBA> is that an l or an I
[12:18] <lypanov> I
[12:18] <onkarshinde> JBBA: l as in language
[12:18] <onkarshinde> I suppose
[12:19] <soundray> JBBA, onkarshinde, no ii as in 'install/installed' (dpkg -l output)
[12:19] <onkarshinde> JBBA: How many users have you created?
[12:19] <soundray> onkarshinde, irrelevant as long as he hasn't got gksu installed.
[12:19] <JBBA> i have two and i want to deleat the other one and stay on this one
[12:20] <JBBA> and it is installed
[12:20] <redguy> soundray: why would't he have it installed?
[12:20] <Crack> boh
[12:20] <soundray> redguy, he said it "failed to find it"
[12:20] <JBBA> it is installed i typed the wrong thing
[12:20] <onkarshinde> soundray: May be he is trying from the one is not a sudoer. I was going to say that. But it seems opposite
[12:20] <soundray> redguy, onkarshinde, I see.
[12:21] <Crack> o my gad
[12:21] <JBBA> WHO HOO IT IS INSTALLED I TYPED THE WRONG THING
[12:21] <JBBA> it is!!!!1
[12:21] <JBBA> what do i do now?
[12:21] <onkarshinde> JBBA: Is the current user you are logged in as the first user created during login process?
[12:21] <JBBA> yes
[12:22] <redguy> JBBA: what groups this user is in ?
[12:22] <JBBA> Jared Bash
[12:22] <boa-chan> samu2, you get it working ?
[12:22] <onkarshinde> JBBA: What admin task do you want to accomplish?
[12:22] <JBBA> i want to deleat the other user ...and i want to get it to pull up the admin tasks it wont even open them
[12:23] <soundray> JBBA, to answer redguy's question, type groups
[12:24] <JBBA> ...ummmm.... i got gksu xlogo to work
[12:24] <redguy> hrm, which brings another question: is there any place in which ubuntu usergroups are explained
[12:24] <JBBA> i was typing the wrong thing
[12:25] <samu2> boa-chan, no, i dont really need it to work right now. so i cant be bothered to try and solve it for myself either.
[12:25] <onkarshinde> redguy: Not sure. But this is not about groups I suppose. If the user is listed in /etc/sudoers then he can do admin task. This is my opinion.
[12:25] <JBBA> and it keeps telling me wrong password
[12:25] <boa-chan> i got something working
[12:25] <boa-chan> tell me if this come sin
[12:25] <boa-chan> 
[12:25] <onkarshinde> JBBA: Which password are you typing?
[12:25] <JBBA> thw password i set for this account
[12:26] <redguy> boa-chan: I see some wierd characters...
[12:26] <boa-chan> lol
[12:26] <JBBA> its chineese
[12:26] <boa-chan> you need the right charset
[12:26] <boa-chan> its japanese actually
[12:26] <JBBA> Oh
[12:27] <onkarshinde> JBBA: Ok. Just do this once. 'less /etc/sudoers |grep username' Insert current username in place of username.
[12:27] <Astxist> I can see it!
[12:27] <boa-chan> heh
[12:27] <mjr> boa-chan,  
[12:27] <Astxist> and it looks cool, but I have no idea what it says
[12:27] <boa-chan> ./charset iso-2022-jp
[12:27] <boa-chan> mjr use this form
[12:27] <mjr> umm, I think I formed that verb-form a bit incorrectly, but anyway :)
[12:27] <boa-chan> 
[12:28] <boa-chan> it's the correct form for that
[12:28] <mjr> indeed
[12:28] <redguy> JBBA: type groups and see if group 'admin' is listed
[12:28] <boa-chan> 
[12:28] <JBBA> all it says is jaredb
[12:28] <boa-chan> 
[12:29] <kwtm1> Kombanwa, minasan.  Seems like we're going for the East Asian languages tonight.
[12:29] <redguy> so I have japanese fonts in my system?
[12:29] <Mabus06> weird, I thought I didnt have that language pack
[12:29] <Mabus06> I dont know if thats Japanese redguy
[12:29] <boa-chan> ohayou gozimasu kwtm1
[12:29] <boa-chan> gozaimasu*
[12:29] <onkarshinde> JBBA: Please do as I said regarding that /etc/sudoers file
[12:29] <JBBA> it said no file or directory
[12:29] <boa-chan> im tryping in japanese
[12:29] <boa-chan> samu2, you want the program im using?
[12:30] <boa-chan> boa-chan  <-- can anyone understand that?
[12:30] <redguy> JBBA: well, that's your problem propably.
[12:30] <Mabus06> I could have sworn I went through expert install and didn't install unneeded things like japanese....
[12:30] <onkarshinde> JBBA: Then first 'slocate sudoers' and then use that path. This is somewhat tidious, but I don't remember exact path to that file
[12:31] <kwtm1> How do I set up my deb sources so that it will recognize a directory on my hard drive as a potential source of deb pkgs?  For example, if I've downloaded a bunch of deb packages, or dpkg has automatically downloaded a bunch of packages into /var/cache/apt as part of installation, and I stick it under ~/zip/debs or something?
[12:31] <bringfried> helo friends, may I intrude?
[12:31] <redguy> JBBA: the user you created during the install is the other user, isn't it?
[12:31] <boa-chan> japanese is needed
[12:31] <boa-chan> heh
[12:31] <JBBA> no
[12:31] <mjr> boa-chan,    
[12:31] <Mabus06> bringfried, never ask to ask a question. Ask it.
[12:31] <boa-chan> i think  iused some wrong kanji
[12:31] <boa-chan> i said
[12:31] <boa-chan> watashi no senmon wa nihongo desu yo.
[12:31] <kwtm1> boa-chan: I think it says "watashi ... somebout nihongo desu ... ne?  "
[12:31] <boa-chan> my kanji is weak
[12:31] <boa-chan> i never used ne
[12:31] <bringfried> I am new aut ubuntu- for that amtter at linus and have many questions
[12:31] <boa-chan> heh
[12:31] <Mabus06> boa-chan, your japanese makes as much sense to me as the screwed up characters I'd see if I didn't have japanese installed. ;-)
[12:31] <mjr> my kanji is _very_ weak. I did recognize the "watashi" tho :)
[12:31] <kwtm1> mjr said " iie, wakarimasen"?
[12:32] <boa-chan> lol
[12:32] <boa-chan> i know
[12:32] <mjr> kwtm1, yes
[12:32] <onkarshinde> boa-chan: mjr: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:32] <boa-chan> no, i don't understand
[12:32] <boa-chan> heh
[12:32] <mjr> though yeah, this is really -offtopic stuff
[12:32] <redguy> onkarshinde: 1. /etc/sudoers isn't system readable. 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo says that users in the admin group are able to use sudo
[12:32] <Mabus06> bringfried, just ask them
[12:32] <mjr> I'll stop here now
[12:32] <soundray> onkarshinde, slocate won't show /etc/sudoers
[12:32] <boa-chan> yeh
[12:32] <Glossary> how can i force my cd rom to eject from console???
[12:32] <bringfried> I need a printer driver and don't know where to find the proper one.
[12:32] <boa-chan> 
[12:32] <onkarshinde> soundray: And why not?
[12:32] <soundray> onkarshinde, to a non-privileged user
[12:33] <Glossary> how can i force my cd rom to eject from console???
[12:33] <samu2> boa-chan, that works
[12:33] <boa-chan> you want the app ?
[12:33] <redguy> JBBA: what is dislayed when you enter 'groups the_oteher_user'
[12:33] <Mabus06> bringfried, try looking on the website of your printer's vendor (ie: lexmark)... that isn't really a ubuntu related question ;-)
[12:33] <soundray> onkarshinde, anyway I suspect his /etc/sudoers is okay, given that sudo ls worked.
[12:33] <onkarshinde> JBBA: Most probably the user in which you have logged in doesn't have admin privileges. So log in to another user you have, assign admin privileges to this user and then delete another user. (kind of confused, isn't it;-))
[12:34] <JBBA> yes...
[12:34] <JBBA> okay let me try that
[12:34] <bringfried> my printer is a lexmark Z13. Thea oofer drivers for red har and suse bur nor foe ubuntu. Is it possible to use one of these?
[12:34] <xored> how to delete a save xsession ? When i login into xfce he still shows me the 2 sessions
[12:34] <onkarshinde> bringfried: Didn't Ubuntu auto detect it?
[12:34] <Mabus06> Yes, bringfried
[12:34] <Mabus06> Get alien to convert debian packages to ubuntu.
[12:35] <Glossary> how can i force my cd rom to eject from console???
[12:35] <Br|ce> eject /dev/hdc
[12:35] <Mabus06> Glossary, we heard your question the first time, wait until someone knows
[12:35] <boa-chan> type eject
[12:35] <onkarshinde> Mabus06: You mean convert rpm to deb using alien
[12:35] <boa-chan> on a terminal
[12:35] <Mabus06> Oh, well there you go
[12:35] <Br|ce> (provided that hdc is your driver)
[12:35] <Mabus06> errr, yeah lol
[12:35] <samu2> boa-chan, the app?
[12:35] <Glossary>  Mabus06 Br|ce  this doesnt work.. it wont eject
[12:35] <boa-chan> that im using for input
[12:35] <redguy> Glossary: eject /dev/cdrom
[12:35] <Mabus06> Glossary, I just tried it and it owrked
[12:35] <bringfried> No ubuntu did not autodetect it. This perticular printer isn't even listed in the drivers list.
[12:35] <Mabus06> How do you close it again?
[12:36] <boa-chan> Glossary, right click on cdrom icon, hit eject
[12:36] <Mabus06> bringfried, is it a dell printer?
[12:36] <Br|ce> Glossary: did "eject" throw you any error ?
[12:36] <bringfried> No, et is a Lexmark Z13
[12:36] <Mabus06> after typing "eject" what closes it again?
[12:36] <redguy> bringfried: tried looking in linuxprinting.org?
[12:36] <Mabus06> z13 should be installed on ubuntu I thought.
[12:37] <soundray> Mabus06, mounting should close the drive.
[12:37] <redguy> Mabus06: eject -t /dev/cdrom
[12:37] <martinjh99> Morning - Which package do I need to install for php in Apache 1 server??
[12:37] <bringfried> linuxprinting.org. Good idea. will try it
[12:37] <Mabus06> thanks redguy
[12:37] <Mabus06> kind of a neat, pointless trick but thanks
[12:37] <Mabus06> lol
[12:37] <ke> Uhm
[12:38] <boa-chan> anyone got a xmms xchat script
[12:38] <ke> Isn't fluxbox in apt?
[12:38] <onkarshinde> bringfried: Instead install foomatic, if it is not installed already.
[12:38] <] SW[Shadow-Away> hey i need help with installing ubantu
[12:38] <soundray> ke, yes it is in universe
[12:39] <] SW[Shadow-Away> how do i create a completely new partition without destroying anything else?
[12:39] <] SW[Shadow-Away> i want it at about 5gb
[12:39] <] SW[Shadow-Away> thats all
[12:39] <onkarshinde> bringfried: Exactly what you want to know : http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z13
[12:39] <onkarshinde> ] SW[Shadow-Away: Ubuntu installer can resize your existing partition.
[12:39] <Uzaiyaro> uha
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> but i want to create a completely new one
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> leaving the other one untouched
[12:40] <redguy> Uzaiyaro: you got free space?
[12:40] <kevinz> i have a question not about ubuntu. That is why do some other distribution use shell other than bash? i feel bash so good.
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> think so
[12:40] <ke> soundray, uhm, how do I get that?
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> (CPU) 1-AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+, 1802MHz (0% Load) .:. (RAM) usage: 500/768MB (65.10%) .:. (GFX) RADEON 9600 PRO SEC Family (Microsoft Corporation), (Display) 1280x1024/32bit/60Hz
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> (OS) Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), (uptime) 1h 13m 26s .:. (HDDs) 15.8GB/55.9GB(28.3%) free
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> (HDDs) (showing free space), C:\ (INSERT SPAM HERE) 15.8GB/55.9GB(28%) (Local total) 15.8GB/55.9GB (28.3%)
[12:40] <Uzaiyaro> that enough?
[12:41] <redguy> !tell Uzaiyaro about pastebin
[12:41] <mulder> enough what?
[12:41] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: No. This is free space on your existing partition. We are talking about unpartitioned space
[12:41] <soundray> !tell ke about repositories
[12:41] <Uzaiyaro> [ubotu]  redguy wants you to know: pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:41] <Uzaiyaro> well there is 8mb
[12:42] <Uzaiyaro> i try to resize that but nothing happens
[12:42] <ke> !sources
[12:42] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:42] <soundray> ke, read the message from ubotu
[12:42] <ke> Thanks
[12:42] <bringfried> ok. friends. I will say good bey here and have a look!
[12:42] <soundray> ke, you're too fast...
[12:42] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: Of course it is not sufficient. So you can move data from one of your existing partitions to another one. And delete that partition to create unpartitioned space.
[12:42] <ke> !sources
[12:42] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:42] <ke> Ok, thanks mate
[12:43] <Uzaiyaro> so
[12:43] <Uzaiyaro> sorry im a complete nob at this
[12:43] <Uzaiyaro> so what ur saying
[12:43] <Uzaiyaro> is to delete the 8mb one?
[12:43] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: Read my reply ^^^
[12:45] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: Consider you have 4 partitions in windows, C, D, E, F. One of them is at least 5 GB (eg. F). Move whatever data is on F to some another partition, say C. Delete F from Windows XP's Computer Manager tool
[12:45] <ke> !universe
[12:45] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[12:45] <Uzaiyaro> k
[12:45] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: You have 5 GB of unpartitioned space. When you start installing Ubuntu, you can use this unpartitioned space to install Ubuntu.
[12:46] <Uzaiyaro> i have 2 partitions, one i dont know what it is its 8mb and the other, its 55.9gb
[12:46] <Uzaiyaro> that must be the cache
[12:46] <stan_> can anyone help me with permissioons please?
[12:46] <jhaa> Uzaiyaro buy a new hd?
[12:46] <stan_> I think I've just destroyed all my music
[12:47] <Br|ce> too bad
[12:47] <Uzaiyaro> jhaa: no
[12:47] <jhaa> you should be able to get used 20GB hd for less than 20
[12:47] <Uzaiyaro> i just wanna create a seperate partition, i dont know how to do it in ubuntu setup
[12:47] <redguy> Uzaiyaro: you have to rezise your partition then
[12:47] <jhaa> ok :)
[12:47] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: That is what I was saying. You have just one partition. SO you will have to resize it. Ubuntu installer can do this for you. If you are not comfortable then use some tool like Partition Magic, although I would not recommend Partition Magic
[12:47] <Uzaiyaro> ok
[12:48] <redguy> Uzaiyaro: where do you want to create a new partition? your windows partition takes up your entire drive!
[12:48] <Uzaiyaro> not entirely
[12:48] <onkarshinde> redguy: resize.
[12:48] <Uzaiyaro> i have 15gb free space
[12:48] <redguy> onkarshinde: darn, missed that :-)
[12:49] <Uzaiyaro> so after i resize then what do i do for a new partition?
[12:49] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: Right. But that space is free in already partitoned drive. You will have to create partition out of that. For that you need resizing.
[12:49] <redguy> Uzaiyaro: you have 15GB free space *on* your windows partition
[12:49] <stan_> here'smy media drive ended up as root so I typed:
[12:49] <stan_> stan@mitx:~$ sudo chmod -R 666 /media/hdb1
[12:49] <onkarshinde> Uzaiyaro: After rezise, in installer itself you can just ask it to auto partition the 15 GB space.
[12:49] <stan_> & now nothing opens
[12:50] <Uzaiyaro> ok
[12:50] <Uzaiyaro> thanks for the help
[12:50] <ke> Just to get an overview.. What should one do after installing ubuntu? Add more sources to apt etc...?
[12:51] <stan_> ke: after you have installed ubuntu you might want to try automatix
[12:51] <stan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[12:51] <stan_> it installs loads of media codecs & much needed apps :)
[12:51] <KASI> HELP , need some info , can i install ubuntu with windows xp already on my system ???
[12:52] <ke> Great, stan_, thanks :)
[12:52] <redguy> KASI: yes
[12:52] <onkarshinde> KASI: Sure you can. How much partitions do you have? Only one? Use Ubuntu's installer to resize that partition.
[12:52] <stan_> no problem - good luck :)
[12:52] <stan_> it takes a while so you might want to get some tea & biscuits ready
[12:52] <Chand|> hi
[12:52] <KASI> i have 4 , and one containing windows xp wat i am using now #
[12:53] <Chand|> anyone on dapper ?
[12:53] <ajmitch_> Chand|: yes
[12:53] <Hobbsee> Chand|: yes
[12:53] <stan_> just breezy here
[12:53] <Chand|> i got many errors with totem (xine or gstreamer backend)
[12:53] <Chand|> i didnt find any report on bugzilla
[12:54] <redguy> KASI: then it's even easier. Delete one of your partitions and install ubuntu in there
[12:54] <onkarshinde> KASI: Then your biggest problem is solved. Just free up one of the partitions and delete it.
[12:54] <onkarshinde> Chand|: Read the topic.
[12:54] <kbrooks> Question for everyone.
[12:54] <KK> how to enable dual channel sound support ??
[12:54] <Chand|> oh, sorry
[12:54] <Chand|> thx
[12:55] <kbrooks> I may be offtopic, so if I am, tell me to go next door
[12:55] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: Go on
[12:55] <KASI> u mean i should format and even delete any single partition and then ubuntu will make it again to be installed on ?
[12:55] <Chand|> ok, i'll post a new bug
[12:55] <Mabus06> I tried to install wine before but I must have gotten an error or something partway through, as thats what it says when I try to install winetools
[12:55] <onkarshinde> KASI: Yup.
[12:55] <KK> how to have multiple channel sound support ??
[12:55] <Mabus06> How do I uninstall it so I can reinstall, or conitnue with my installation?
[12:55] <KK> does ubuntu have one ??
[12:56] <Mabus06> KK, does your sound card have it?
[12:56] <KK> yeah
[12:56] <KK> works fine in windoze
[12:56] <xored> how to install mplayer codecs under kubuntu ?
[12:56] <onkarshinde> KK: I suppose you don't need to enable it. What are you trying to do exactly? Do you have multichannel speaker system?
[12:56] <Mabus06> KK, well if your sound drivers are working properly then it should work right?
[12:56] <kbrooks> Is "open  source"  / "free" software necessarily great? for example, i used non free (or is that commercial?) software to boot a LiveCD because qemu wouldnt do it properly.
[12:56] <KASI> so can i access my other partitions in ubuntu to transfer or play some media files like mp3's etc ?
[12:57] <atrophic> what's a command that will list all the directories in the current folder, but not anything else?
[12:57] <onkarshinde> KASI: First finish your job of installing Ubuntu. I am sure you will have many more questions and you will come back here.
[12:57] <Mabus06> I tried to install wine before but I must have gotten an error or something partway through, as thats what it says when I try to install winetools. How do I either undo that installation or continue with it?
[12:57] <kbrooks> Anyone?  :)
[12:57] <KK> Mabus06: i am gettin error while playin some music files when gaim is running
[12:57] <KASI> ok thanx
[12:57] <onkarshinde> atrophic: I suppose ls -d should do.
[12:57] <Robbster> Lo all. I need to compile Putty for Breezy (some custom enhancements). Where do I get the source for the ubuntu version?
[12:57] <Mabus06> oh, KK, that could be because gaim plays sounds
[12:58] <atrophic> onkarshinde, I thought so too, but it doesn't... just shows one line with a single dot on it
[12:58] <kbrooks> Robbster, apt-get source
[12:58] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: You mean qemu on windows didn't work properly, right?
[12:58] <KK> Mabus06: error that my sound card has not been configured properli
[12:58] <Robbster> kbrooks: as opposed to apt-get install ?
[12:58] <onkarshinde> atrophic: Are there any subdirectories?
[12:58] <Mabus06> KK, make sure you have the right drivers installed then.
[12:58] <atrophic> onkarshinde, yes
[12:59] <onkarshinde> Robbster: And why do you need putty?
[12:59] <KK> Mabus06: my sound card has been detected by default by ubuntu
[12:59] <KK> Mabus06: and drivers too
[12:59] <KK> Mabus06: got by default
[12:59] <Robbster> onkarshinde: custom gov't crap. They use a putty specific key and I therefore need putty to work with them. :(
[12:59] <Mabus06> KK, make sure you have the latest ones... just because it was "detected" doesn't mean you have the right one
[01:00] <KK> where to get ??
[01:00] <onkarshinde> KK: Then this is not about multi channel support. Go to meny System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector and select alsa instead of OSS or ESD
[01:00] <KK> what does this do ??
[01:01] <KK> and why am i gettin that problem ??
[01:01] <onkarshinde> KK: ALSA is 'Advanced Linux Sound Architecture', a sound framework providing sharing of sound card between applications, and drivers are also quite good.
[01:02] <KK> yeah i know that...
[01:02] <atrophic> onkarshinde, ls -l */ does the trick though, thanks
[01:02] <onkarshinde> atrophic: Hey, Did you try 'ls -D'?
[01:03] <KK> onkarshinde: when im trying to test..im gettin an error that construction of pipeline for alsa has failed
[01:03] <onkarshinde> KK: Since you first launched gaim hwich uses default sound system, that is ED in most cases, it blocked sound card.
[01:03] <qt2> hullo hullo o>
[01:04] <onkarshinde> KK: One more thing. Go to terminal and type command 'killall esd'. Also disable sound server startup from Preferences->Sound menu.
[01:04] <onkarshinde> qt2: What is that?
[01:05] <atrophic> onkarshinde, that lists more than just the directories.  'ls -d */' works though
[01:05] <KK> onkarshinde : why ??
[01:05] <kbrooks> onkarshinde, no, i didnt mean on windows
[01:05] <kbrooks> i meant on ubuntu
[01:06] <KK> onkarshinde: im not gettin sounds on gaim when xmms is being played
[01:06] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: Then I don't know. I actually never used any emulator to test linux. I just stopped using Windows (and that was almost 2 years ago.
[01:07] <onkarshinde> KK: ESD blocks your sound card. There is some workaround, But I don't know about it.
[01:07] <qt2> onkarshinde: what is what? :P
[01:07] <KK> onkarshinde: how to get to know abt it ??
[01:08] <onkarshinde> KK: 'man esd' perhaps
[01:08] <KK> onkarshinde: i did what u asked me to do
[01:08] <KK> onkarshinde: killall esd and disable sound server startup...
[01:08] <KK> onkarshinde: what effect does that have ??
[01:08] <qt2> ESD is on of the few major problems left with ubuntu imho.
[01:08] <qt2> KK: there is a lot of esd info on the forums.
[01:09] <xim> i am downloading the new ubuntu, the breezy badger, what is the difference
[01:09] <KK> qt2 : where are the forums ?? url ??
[01:09] <Happuf> new gnome for example
[01:09] <oNe^somewhere> does any1 know much about streaming here ?
[01:09] <onkarshinde> KK: It stops ESD daemon. You may try restarting GAIM.
[01:09] <Hobbsee> !ubuntuforums
[01:09] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:10] <onkarshinde> xim: Tell me what you are, a user or developer or a geek? And I will tell differences.
[01:10] <oNe^somewhere> or how to install oddcast properly
[01:10] <onkarshinde> oNe^somewhere: What do you want to do?
[01:10] <yatesy> why can't you be a user and a geek? :/
[01:10] <oNe^somewhere> i want to dj from my pc
[01:10] <xim> user, for the most part i am bored with windows and tried a few linux's and i love ubuntu
[01:10] <Renski> and a developer
[01:10] <KK> !ubuntuforums
[01:10] <ubotu> [ubuntuforums]  at http://ubuntuforums.org/
[01:10] <xim> trying to learn it still though
[01:11] <onkarshinde> yatesy: geek is superset, or rather universal set
[01:11] <Renski> <--user, developer, and geek
[01:11] <yatesy> heh
[01:11] <nubbe> I use ALSA and have some problems with gnome system sounds (cliping), no problem with xmms or totem or real. Any thoughts?
[01:11] <reter> how can i upgrade to breezy when i keep getting these error messages?
[01:11] <qt2> KK: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.ubuntuforums.org/&ei=1POKQ7DOE8n-4AHC5egv&sig2=PeCXRfpZVG5i-uSJYGMYkw
[01:11] <qt2> ack
[01:11] <qt2> KK: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:11] <qt2> lol
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !forum
[01:12] <ubotu> it has been said that forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:12] <redguy> !tell reter about pastebin
[01:12] <reter> pastebin is down
[01:12] <qt2> nubbe: probably something to do with ESD.
[01:12] <onkarshinde> xim: Lots of Changes, Gnome 2.12.1, lots of updated applications.
[01:12] <qt2> reter: http://www.nomorepasting.com/
[01:13] <oNe^somewhere> onkarshinde,  i already dj from my windows system ...now i want to be able to do it from linux
[01:13] <xim> thanks, i will probably be camping here alot reading and learning off you guys
[01:13] <nubbe> qt2, is ESD used even if I have chosen ALSA?
[01:13] <onkarshinde> xim: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/newsitems/release510
[01:13] <redguy> reter: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ then
[01:13] <qt2> xim: thats what 95% of the people here are doing ;)
[01:13] <onkarshinde> oNe^somewhere: Sorry, can't help you. I don't know much about it.
[01:13] <qt2> nubbe: yep, alsa is the sound system, esd is the sound server.
[01:15] <nubbe> qt2, k
[01:15] <onkarshinde> Great news http://www.ubuntulinux.org/newsitems/newmedia Must read bu Ubuntu lovers
[01:16] <KK> qt2: dint find any possible answer in the forums
[01:16] <KK> qt2: the problem is that...i am not gettin sounds in gaim while xmms is playing
[01:17] <Robbster> erm, installed the src with apt-get, now where is it?
[01:17] <KK> qt2: is not this a possible problem with dual channel ?
[01:17] <reter> here are the error messages http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5153
[01:17] <onkarshinde> KK: What is output plugin in xmms?
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> onkarshinde: cool news
[01:18] <KK> onkarshinde: oss
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 KK this could be confusiing ;)
[01:18] <onkarshinde> KK: Try changing to ALSA
[01:18] <onkarshinde> reter: Which Ubuntu? 5.04 or 5.10?
[01:18] <reter> 5.94
[01:19] <reter> 04
[01:19] <KK> onkarshinde: wow!! working!!
[01:19] <xim> and the only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu is one is kde and the other is gnome?
[01:19] <william> guys I tried to follow the instructions to install Firefox 1.5rc3 and it didnt work so I did a complete removal of firefox and re-installed and now it wont come up
[01:19] <onkarshinde> reter: And what are you trying to install?
[01:19] <reter> breezy
[01:19] <onkarshinde> xim: Yup.
[01:19] <onkarshinde> reter: How?
[01:19] <reter> apt-get dist install
[01:19] <reter> but i get error messages
[01:20] <reter> then i tried apt-get -f install and i get more error messages
[01:20] <onkarshinde> reter: apt-get dist-upgrade is correct way. It should solve all the problems.
[01:20] <reter> sorry that is what i meant
[01:20] <reter> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <onkarshinde> reter: Have you already changed your sources.list to reflect Breezy repositories and Breezy CD?
[01:20] <reter> yes
[01:21] <Robbster> where will the ubuntu source packages get installed to?
[01:21] <reter> i dont have the breezy cd
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> Robbster: working directory IIRC
[01:21] <reter> should i get the breezy cd will that make it better?
[01:22] <onkarshinde> reter: Then you will have to download less packages. If you already have it then it is good. If not then continue as I said, since you in middle of upgrade
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> reter: if you have the correct internet repos, shouldnt need a cd
[01:23] <onkarshinde> Robbster: I suppose somewhere in /usr/src. I am not sure though.
[01:23] <kvantti> hi there..i wonder if anyone knows that site for solving the no sound problem under ubuntu in enemy territory..i once heard it, but cant remember
[01:23] <pinkisntwell> why is ubuntu gui so slow?
[01:23] <reter> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5153 as i pointed out on here i get error messages when i try dist-install
[01:23] <kvantti> piknisntwell maybe your hardware is not top notch???
[01:23] <onkarshinde> pinkisntwell: How much memory?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: try the forums?
[01:24] <pinkisntwell> 512MB ram, nvidia fx5200
[01:24] <onkarshinde> reter: That is why, I asked you for apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:24] <Robbster> onkarshinde: nothing in /usr/src.
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> pinkisntwell: i don't find it slow as a rule :O
[01:24] <pinkisntwell> compared to windows it's literally night and day
[01:24] <onkarshinde> Robbster: I already said not sure about is.
[01:24] <william> guys I tried to follow the instructions to install Firefox 1.5rc3 and it didnt work so I did a complete removal of firefox and re-installed and now it wont come up
[01:24] <Robbster> onkarshinde: It installed to the working directory
[01:24] <reter> onkarshinde, i have done it 3 times already and i get error messages
[01:25] <onkarshinde> pinkisntwell: I don't think it is slow. I also have 512 DDR RAM
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: using apt?
[01:25] <pinkisntwell> plus I can't get resolution bigger than 1024*768 and some emulators I tried cant get decent framerate on snes games
[01:25] <william> yeah
[01:26] <randabis> pinkisntwell: you probably don't have your video setup correctly
[01:26] <william> the little tutorial made me link a bunch of stuff but Ive since marked it for complete removal
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: try --purge remove
[01:26] <onkarshinde> reter: How much space is left on / directory? Try 'df -h'
[01:26] <pinkisntwell> but the driver is installed
[01:26] <randabis> are you sure?
[01:26] <pinkisntwell> yes
[01:26] <onkarshinde> pinkisntwell: Resolution you can add in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:27] <william> Kamping_Kaiser,  on top of apt-get?
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: yeh, apt-get --purge remove
[01:27] <pinkisntwell> i checked xorg.conf and it's got more resolutions but they wont show up in the gui config
[01:28] <pinkisntwell> plus it's already going slooow, i dont want to use it with a bigger resolution
[01:28] <onkarshinde> pinkisntwell: What is your monitor size?
[01:28] <reter> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:28] <reter> /dev/hda1             2.9G  2.8G     0 100% /
[01:28] <reter> tmpfs                  62M     0   62M   0% /dev/shm
[01:28] <reter> df: `/.dev': No such file or directory
[01:28] <reter> none                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  55% /dev
[01:28] <pinkisntwell> 15"
[01:29] <onkarshinde> reter: Please use pastebin when you paste more than 2 lines. Anyways. First do 'sudo apt-get clean' then 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:29] <onkarshinde> pinkisntwell: I don't know whether 15" monitor will support higher resolution.
[01:30] <william> Kamping_Kaiser, I even re-installed firefox gnome support.. I mean when I click on the icon it becomes busy and then goes away
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> would anyone else find it desturbing if Xorg was using a config file from my home directory? not the one in /etc/X11/ ?
[01:30] <onkarshinde> william: Try launching from termianl using command 'firefox' see if you get any error.
[01:30] <reter> its telling me to run apt-get -f install
[01:31] <william> I get an Error onkarshinde, where can I paste it?
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: make sure you don't have any running in the background
[01:31] <pinkisntwell> it does support up to 1280x960 in windows
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: i had a person with 72 copies of openoffice on a server i admin
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> because i twouldnt appear, so he clicked again
[01:31] <onkarshinde> william: some pastebin.
[01:31] <william> nope no firefox loaded
[01:31] <william> checked top
[01:32] <william> is there any other browser on Ubuntu?
[01:32] <onkarshinde> reter: then do so. And see if it tries to uninstall anything.
[01:32] <william> cause I cant get to pastebin on Firefox :P
[01:32] <onkarshinde> william: There is epiphany, and galeon (both not installed by default)
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[01:32] <zelevw> hi guys...i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and can dig, nslookup without any problems...nevertheless Firefox wont work...it can connect to websites if i give it the ip address but not by fqdn...where can i fix this? THANK YOU
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: use #flood
[01:32] <onkarshinde> william: may be you can twy elinks or w3m (text browsers, if they are installed)
[01:32] <qt2> so, could someone recomend me a wifi card thats cheap, good, and complatible with ubuntu?
[01:33] <william> ok I pasted it into #flood its weird
[01:33] <ke> 5.04 = hoary?
[01:33] <atrophic> my linksys wpc11 works well, but not right out of the box
[01:33] <atrophic> ke, yes
[01:34] <ke> Ok
[01:34] <onkarshinde> zelevw: May be something related to ipv6. You may have to change some option in firefox using its about:config. Not sure what the option is.
[01:34] <zelevw> onkarshinde: il have a look there...gracias
[01:34] <pinkisntwell> zelevw: you need to configure dns, do you know how to do it?
[01:34] <william> Kamping_Kaiser, did ya get to see it?
[01:34] <onkarshinde> zelevw: pinkisntwell may be correct.
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: no sorry, i was trying to help soeone in kubuntu8
[01:35] <BurgerMann> Hi :).. where would the X configuration file be?
[01:35] <zelevw> pinkisntwell...i can dig and nslookup..i checkd in network and have the right dns addresses
[01:35] <pinkisntwell> and only firefox isnt working? did you try other internet apps?
[01:35] <BurgerMann> xorg.conf I guess ?
[01:36] <onkarshinde> BurgerMann: /etx/X11/xoprg.conf
[01:36] <zelevw> xchat works...email wont connect...gaim wont either
[01:36] <aftertaf> zelevw:  search for IPv6 in about:config ans set it to true
[01:36] <spermix> hello
[01:36] <onkarshinde> william: which version of firefox are you trying to load? How did you install it?
[01:37] <william> I did the tutorial off the wiki for 1.5RC3
[01:37] <william> but it didnt work
[01:37] <onkarshinde> william: Lets continue it in #flood
[01:37] <spermix> only english speek ?
[01:38] <william> k
[01:38] <spermix> itanliano?
[01:38] <spermix> italiano?
[01:38] <BurgerMann> onkarshinde: thanx bud :)
[01:38] <zelevw> aftertaf: network.dns.disableIPv6 was set to false...fixed!  THANK YOU
[01:38] <JimmyJo> Hallo
[01:38] <JimmyJo> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[01:38] <bas> i just upgraded to breezy and even though i have xfonts-artwiz installed they dont show up anymore in xlsfonts.. any ideas?
[01:39] <bas> anyone else having the same problem?
[01:39] <spermix> nein
[01:39] <aftertaf> !de
[01:39] <ubotu> from memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:39] <aftertaf> zelevw:  and does it change anything?
[01:40] <qt2> zelevw: does gaim work?
[01:40] <zelevw> aftertaf: YES...FIREFOX works now...thank you... any ideas on how i can get Evolution to connect?  is there any way to disable ipv6 altogher?
[01:40] <DRAGON_Ultra> mine does
[01:40] <kbrooks> i'll blog now...
[01:40] <zelevw> qt2: gaim doesnt work
[01:41] <TenPlus1> Hi folks...
[01:41] <drcode> hi all
[01:42] <zelevw> aftertaf: can i delete ff00::0, fe00::0 , etc...?
[01:42] <drcode> any one know irc channel of netcat?
[01:42] <JimmyJo> can somebody help me
[01:42] <TenPlus1> Has anyone had any luck configuring an ASUS WL-138g wireless card yet ???
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> drcode, i don't think netcat will have its own channel
[01:43] <JimmyJo> T-sinus 154 Data II HELP ME PLEASE
[01:44] <onkarshinde> JimmyJo: If you will state your question. Only crying for help wont get you any help.
[01:44] <JimmyJo> ok sorry when i want to install the driver with ndiswrapper i became the message that the driver is invalid
[01:44] <TenPlus1> Q.) I boot Ubuntu Live CD 5.10 on my bro's pc and it wont boot... does it support SATA
[01:44] <mirak> in theory in wich file should I add the PATH variable values ? .bash_profile or .bashrc ?
[01:45] <onkarshinde> JimmyJo: Which card?
[01:45] <JimmyJo>  T-sinus 154 Data II
[01:45] <JimmyJo> usb
[01:45] <drgreborn> hello. Could soemone help me out with a pcmcia question on Kubuntu?
[01:45] <JimmyJo> i use the driver from the original install cd
[01:45] <qt2> zelevw: you want to disable ipv6, correct?
[01:45] <zelevw> qt2: yessir
[01:45] <jsz> Hi, Im using Ubuntu server mode install and I just install ipmasq to share my connection
[01:45] <jsz> does that mean it's firewalled too?
[01:46] <jsz> or do I need to install seperate firewall?
[01:46] <onkarshinde> mirak: I don't remember which one is for wht exactly, but one is for login shell config and other is not. For example opening terminal from desktop is not a login shell.
[01:46] <qt2> zelevw: mind if i pm you?
[01:46] <JimmyJo> have you any idea
[01:46] <mirak> ah
[01:46] <zelevw> qt2: pm?
[01:46] <mirak> onkarshinde: I added the path in /etc/profile ...
[01:46] <qt2> zelevw: private message
[01:46] <zelevw> qt2: sure
[01:46] <drgreborn> The pcmcia card is an EDIMAX sdl-4103dl, the cd comes with a linux driver but I have some doubts on installing it. Perhaps someone has the same problem and can help me out? Sorry.
[01:47] <onkarshinde> mirak: That will enable that particular path for all users
[01:47] <qt2> zelevw: k, check pm. ;)
[01:47] <JimmyJo> its a usb t-sinus 154 Data II
[01:47] <JimmyJo> w-lan adapter
[01:47] <onkarshinde> JimmyJo: Have you checked on http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[01:48] <JimmyJo> yes
[01:48] <drgreborn> Is it common to have the /pcmcia-cs/ folder missing?
[01:49] <onkarshinde> JimmyJo: Try asking in forums.
[01:49] <aftertaf> drgreborn:  treid dpkg-reconfigure pcmcia-cs ?
[01:50] <qt2> Could someone recomend me a wifi card thats cheap, good, and complatible with ubuntu?
[01:50] <drgreborn> i cant connect to the net
[01:50] <drgreborn> aftertaf: I cant connect to the net. is it possibel to do dpkg through the cd?
[01:50] <TenPlus1> qt2: pci or pcmcia ?
[01:51] <JimmyJo> i do
[01:51] <belou> why my ubuntu do not recognize the 'make' command ?
[01:51] <drgreborn> aftertaf: perhaps i show you the readme file of th cd and perhaps you can tell me how to do it?
[01:51] <_jason> belou, install build-essential package
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf
[01:52] <qt2> TenPlus1: pci/pcie
[01:52] <belou> _jason, ok
[01:52] <aftertaf> drgreborn:  if the package is installed already, you can do it that way.... look on your cd, and with synaptic, is rhe package installed?
[01:52] <aftertaf> hi Kamping_Kaiser  :)
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:53] <tomek_> jojkl
[01:53] <TenPlus1> qt2: most Belkin or LinkSYS are pretty good
[01:54] <belou> _jason, is it in the install menu?
[01:54] <onkarshinde> belou: you will have to install it from synaptic or apt-get
[01:56] <belou> onkarshinde, soo i need root pasword but the installation has not asked me to enter it
[01:56] <qt2> TenPlus1: what about netgear?
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> has anyone else come accross this problem? phpmyadmin not uninstalling? http://Kubuntu.pastebin.com/440840
[01:56] <zelevw> does anyone know the root password in ubuntu 5.10? thx
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell zelevw about root
[01:57] <thoreauputic> !ootsudo
[01:57] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[01:57] <ubotu> well, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:57] <TenPlus1> qt2: NetGear and LinkSYS make good pci wi-fi cards that can be cheap and linux compat. the newer ones come with linux drivers and should already be supported
[01:57] <belou> ok
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi thoreauputic
[01:57] <thoreauputic> hi KK :)
[01:57] <zelevw> kamping_kaiser: thank u
[01:57] <onkarshinde> belou: This is where sudo somes in picture. The first user you created has some admin privileges using sudo' Typing a command 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' should to.
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) np
[01:57] <kbrooks> http://kbrooks.ath.cx/blog/
[01:58] <belou> onkarshinde, what a weird thing
[01:58] <kbrooks> Anyone like my latest blog entry?
[01:58] <qt2> TenPlus1: thank you very much.
[01:59] <qt2> TenPlus1: so you're saying pretty much any negear/linksys card available at say, the local best buy, should work with ubuntu?
[02:00] <onkarshinde> belou: No, It is not weird. Consider you are running as root and your system gets compromised through some open port, then it is open to one who hacks it.
[02:00] <TenPlus1> qt2: should... check the ubuntu website for hardware compatibility if your unsure
[02:00] <qt2> TenPlus1: k.
[02:01] <drgreborn> question: I can do the apt-get build essential from the cd?
[02:01] <drgreborn> *can I do ?*
[02:02] <thoreauputic> drgreborn:  sudo apt-get build-essential - and yes I think it's on the CD from memory
[02:02] <thoreauputic> oops
[02:03] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:03] <onkarshinde> drgreborn: If you are sources.list has a CD entry into it, then apt-get will know what packages to install from CD.
[02:03] <mamoru> hello. Is there a sound equalizer in ubuntu?
[02:03] <belou> onkarshinde, so i never log has root, just 'su', it is just disturbing for the first time of use
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Beleys: you get used to it quite quickly :)
[02:04] <TenPlus1> is their an easy way to install Flash and Java without using console ???
[02:04] <triablo_> how to start-up ubuntu whitout gnome, only the console ?
[02:04] <thoreauputic> belou: sorry nick complete error
[02:05] <triablo_> how to start-up ubuntu whitout gnome, only the console ?
[02:05] <triablo_> how to start-up ubuntu whitout X, only the console ?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> triablo_: stop repeating
[02:05] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i want to play the video clips on this site: http://psp.weebls-stuff.com/ but i get no sound. can anyone advise me what audio codec is needed and how to get it?
[02:06] <onkarshinde> belou: If you are too tired of doing sudo every time, then there is 'Root Terminal' in Applications->System Tools
[02:06] <belou> thoreauputic, no problem, searching for cairo.pc in ubuntu for now
[02:06] <belou> onkarshinde, cool stuff thanks
[02:07] <thoreauputic> triablo_: one way is to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to false
[02:07] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: I suppose they are mp3.
[02:07] <belou> i'm searching for cairo-xcb.h does it come in one ubuntu package?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> triablo_: you can just comment out the line in that file - same effect
[02:08] <onkarshinde> belou: May be you will have to dev package for cairo
[02:08] <drgreborn> ok how do I install the pcmcia-cs into kubuntu?
[02:09] <belou> onkarshinde, i have : libcairo-dev
[02:09] <drgreborn> there doesn't seem to be any folder in my /usr/lnux/
[02:09] <sexcopter8000m> onkarshinde, but i can play mp3 no probs
[02:09] <Gerrath> What is the difference between /etc/modutils and /etc/modprobe.d ?  I have read several places were /etc/modprobe.d is where you put entries for mod-init-tools?  How do you know is something is loaded with the mod-init-tools?
[02:10] <triablo_> i installed the driver for my video card, and I want to load the fglrx module in kernel, the startx
[02:10] <thoreauputic> !ati
[02:10] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:10] <triablo_> thats why I need the console
[02:10] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: Perhaps it asks for quicktime. May be you can try installing mozplugger which allows you opening files inside FF using external applications.
[02:11] <Gerrath> I've looked at entries in both directories and they look like the same type of data.
[02:11] <thoreauputic> triablo_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:11] <drgreborn> oh one more thing is it possible to show the "home folder" etc on the desktop on KDE? Like in gnome?
[02:12] <pinkisntwell> amybody know why suddenly video acceleration works for me? i mean suddenly, it wasn't working yesterday, now it does
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> onkarshinde, well i can normally play quicktime also without problems... :s
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> is there not a programme to find codec info about a video file?
[02:12] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: quicktime on linux?
[02:12] <drgreborn> onkarshinde: could i shwo you the readme for the linux driver for my pcmcia card? and maybe you could walk me through it? So sorry.
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> onkarshinde, .mov files play fine, yes
[02:13] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: 'file -i filename' should give you mime type
[02:13] <Gerrath> ahh, I think I understand it now, /etc/modutils is for Kernel 2.4 and /etc/modprobe.d is for kernel 2.6, is this correct?
[02:13] <Gerrath> Ubuntu has both kernels so it needs both directories.
[02:13] <triablo_> what do i have to edit in gdm gdm ?
[02:13] <sexcopter8000m> onkarshinde, "/home/james/Desktop/M4V10022.MP4: application/octet-stream
[02:13] <sexcopter8000m> "
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Gerrath: Ubuntu doesn't have kernel 2.4.*
[02:14] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: Gerrath, Ubuntu doesn't have both kernels. It has only 2.6.
[02:14] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: I suppose for mp4 you will have to install w32codecs.
[02:15] <drgreborn> is Kdevelepor inside of the cd-rom when I try to apt-get it?
[02:15] <onkarshinde> !tell sexcopter8000m about w32codecs
[02:15] <Gerrath> thoreauputic, onkarshinde I thought it had the option to install the older 2.4 kernel.
[02:15] <drgreborn> onkarshinde: are the various codecs in the cd-rom or I have to wait till the laptop pcmcia problem is resolved first?
[02:16] <Gerrath> thoreauputic, onkarshinde I think it is in the repository, correct?
[02:16] <sexcopter8000m> onkarshinde, ok i'll try that, but i followed the instructions in the restricted formats wiki when i installed breezy
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Gerrath: not as far as I know
[02:16] <onkarshinde> drgreborn: which codecs are you trying about?
[02:16] <Gerrath> thoreauputic, onkarshinde:  Well that was not my main question, was I correct in saying that /etc/modutils is for 2.4 and /etc/modprobe.d is for >=2.6
[02:17] <onkarshinde> Gerrath: I don't know.
[02:17] <triablo_> thoreauputic: what do i have to edit in gdm to start-up ubuntu whitout X ?
[02:17] <onkarshinde> Gerrath: Ubutnu never had any 2.4 kernel. Not in warty even.
[02:17] <thoreauputic> triablo_: you don't = I already told you
[02:18] <synap> Heya, guys, how do I become root in Ubuntu ?
[02:18] <triablo_> I'm confused
[02:18] <onkarshinde> !tell synap about sudo
[02:18] <Gerrath> onkarshinde, I just did a quick apt-cache search, it is in the repository.
[02:18] <thoreauputic> triablo_: one way is to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment the line out with a #
[02:19] <synap> ty
[02:19] <drgreborn>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:19] <thoreauputic> triablo_: but to kill X, which I think is what you want, you just do  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:19] <triablo_> aha-thanx
[02:20] <Talisker> K
[02:20] <drgreborn> onkarshinde: the avi codecs, mp4, etc.
[02:20] <Talisker> whenever I try to make a package I get: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[02:20] <Talisker> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[02:20] <onkarshinde> !tell drgreborn about w32codecs
[02:21] <onkarshinde> drgreborn: They are not in CD, neither in official repos.
[02:21] <drgreborn> onkarshinde: ok how bout the pcmcia issue?
[02:21] <Talisker> err... excuse me?
[02:21] <Talisker> C compiler won't compile
[02:22] <Talisker> it's kinda urgent to fix that
[02:22] <onkarshinde> drgreborn: Sorry, I know nothing about it.
[02:23] <onkarshinde> Talisker: Have you installed package build-essential?
[02:23] <Talisker> build essential?
[02:23] <Juhaz> in other words, no
[02:24] <onkarshinde> Talisker: Yup. Do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:24] <drgreborn> hmm.
[02:24] <drgreborn> aftertaf: are you around?
[02:25] <aftertaf> drgreborn:  use the cd and adept, or type sudo apt-get install pcmcia*
[02:25] <drgreborn> aftertaf: I'm asking bout the pcmcia thing, sorry. ><;
[02:25] <drgreborn> oh anyone knows how to get subversion?
[02:25] <drgreborn> is it on the cd-rom? so sorry
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> i doubt it's on disc
[02:26] <drgreborn> *shiku shiku*
[02:26] <drgreborn> ok then loosk like gonna have to stick with cvs
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Talisker: install the build-essential package
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Talisker: we told you what to do to fix it
[02:27] <thoreauputic> !info build-essential
[02:27] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:27] <thoreauputic> !info subversion
[02:27] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[02:27] <thoreauputic> !test
[02:27] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:28] <mamoru> !equalizer
[02:28] <ubotu> mamoru: Are you smoking crack?
[02:28] <mamoru> nope
[02:28] <mamoru> is there a sound equalizer in ubuntu?
[02:28] <drgreborn> hang on. the !info for svn states its in breezy?
[02:28] <drgreborn> but its not in the cd?
[02:28] <onkarshinde> mamoru: equilizer is not an essential package in an OS. It should be part of your media player
[02:28] <onkarshinde> drgreborn: May be it is on DVD
[02:28] <thoreauputic> drgreborn: in breezy it's in main
[02:29] <drgreborn> main?
[02:29] <drgreborn> oh u mean repository.
[02:29] <thoreauputic> the "main" repository
[02:29] <mamoru> onkarshinde, thx, i'll take a look once again
[02:29] <drgreborn> so i have no choice then? my eth candt be used.
[02:29] <cmug> does anyone run glquake in 5.10? i have problems running the binary
[02:29] <drgreborn> thanks thoreauputic
[02:30] <KASI> hi again , i have installed UBUNTU just now , but i cannot connect to the internet
[02:30] <mamoru> i use rhythmbox, but it gives me too much BASS
[02:30] <mamoru> however its the same too much BASS when i play mp3-files in other applications
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> KASI: any more info?
[02:30] <KASI> modem is working fine , it dial , it makes those internet sounds then it disconnects itself
[02:30] <mamoru> it was OK before my brother used the computer
[02:31] <drgreborn> aftertaf: the pcmcia-cs is installed. but the readme file has a slightly diff directory structure then what I see.
[02:31] <KASI> its a US ROBOTICS 56K FAXMODEM
[02:31] <frogzoo> KASI: tail -f /var/log/messages
[02:31] <KASI> wats this ? i am a beginner for ubuntu :)
[02:32] <KASI> at the moment i am on windows xp , not on ubuntu , cuz can't connect through there
[02:32] <frogzoo> KASI: /var/log/messages is where system messages get logged - there will be a description of your ppp session
[02:32] <ubuntu_noob> hi all, i got a samba/home network related question, would this be the place to go?
[02:32] <frogzoo> ubuntu_noob: even better if you're running ubuntu ;)
[02:32] <michuk> /var/log/syslog is even more destriptive in debian based distros
[02:32] <ubuntu_noob> of course.  *grin*
[02:32] <drgreborn> !tell aftertaf
[02:32] <KASI> ok but how can i access them just now , cuz i am not using ubuntu at the moment
[02:33] <frogzoo> KASI: dunno - you've got me there for sure
[02:33] <onkarshinde> KASI: How did you start dialup? using which command?
[02:33] <frogzoo> KASI: configuring ppp dialup is pretty straightforward - click on the network icon top right - and select configure
[02:34] <ubuntu_noob> everything works on my network, per se, i'm simply trying to share a folder on my ubuntu machine.  when i hit that machine from anywhere else it gives me the usual login handshake, but no matter what combination of username, domain, password, etc, i can't seem to get access to my machine.  and, i'm pretty sure the password/login is right.  :)
[02:34] <jsz_> KASI: pppconfig
[02:34] <jsz_> sudo pppconfig
[02:34] <frogzoo> KASI: your problem REALLY sounds like authentication is failing - there's different auth schemes for ppp, & it's important to figure out the right one
[02:34] <KASI> no commands , just through the network settings i configured my dialup information and it auto detected my modem and it is working fine , but when those internet connection sounds complete it disconnects itself , can't login to my internet account
[02:35] <jsz_> KASI, make sure you specify the correct DNS
[02:35] <KASI> yeah auth problem exactly , but how to configure it ?
[02:35] <frogzoo> jsz_: no DNS required - configd by ppp, or should be
[02:35] <KASI> there r no DNS settings for my ISP , they say we r a direct connection and we dont need any DNS settings
[02:36] <onkarshinde> KASI: Use 'sudo pppconfig' instead. Then use 'pon yourisp' to start the connection. You can see log with 'plog -f' so that you now if there is any error.
[02:36] <frogzoo> KASI: double click on the network icon top right - then select "ppp0" -> configure - you should be good to go then
[02:37] <moss_> how do i install gtk2
[02:37] <KASI> ok i must write all this in a paper and logon to ubuntu and start working on thse solutions
[02:37] <moss_> ?
[02:37] <KASI> i also have another question too , i want to access my other partitions in which i have media files like mp3's etc , how can i access them ?
[02:38] <onkarshinde> moss_: What do you mean exactly?
[02:38] <onkarshinde> !tell KASI about btfs
[02:38] <moss_> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.                                                                            0) were not met.
[02:38] <onkarshinde> !tell KASI about ntfs
[02:38] <thoreauputic> moss_: GTK 2 is installed by default - do you mean development/ compilation libraries?
[02:38] <onkarshinde> moss_: are you compiling something?
[02:39] <moss_> yes
[02:39] <KASI> THANX
[02:39] <onkarshinde> moss_: you need to install gtk2 development package
[02:39] <moss_> ok
[02:39] <moss_> whats the apt-get for that?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> moss_:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev (or search in synaptic)
[02:39] <jesse> HELP! I accidentally threw my desktop in the trash and then emptied the trash: Is there any way to get this very important info back??
[02:40] <moss_> oh
[02:40] <moss_> is it libgtk2-devel
[02:40] <moss_> ?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> jesse: I think you are out of luck
[02:40] <drgreborn> I cant seem to reset the time in my Kubuntu. when I try to change it, it ask for my password then dissaperas.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> moss_: ubuntu dev packages are -dev not -devel
[02:40] <onkarshinde> moss_: libgtk2.0-dev
[02:40] <drgreborn> Is this a problem with the kcontrol?
[02:40] <moss_> ok
[02:41] <jesse> no special person to call who can magically get all the info from the hard disk??
[02:41] <CosmoDad> hi, can anyone of your hear both ALSA and OSS sound streams using the OSS-Emulation? if say, would you mind sharing asound.conf/.asoundrc files?
[02:41] <moss_> thx
[02:41] <onkarshinde> Good bye everybody. Enjoy Ubuntu.
[02:41] <drgreborn> bye thanks for the help
[02:41] <KASI> bye thanks for the help
[02:42] <CosmoDad> hear both streams *at the same time* I mean...
[02:42] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: it's kind of application-specific - if the app doesn't do alsa, it grabs /dev/dsp and nothing else can play
[02:43] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: or if you start an OSS only app when sound is in use, it throws an error ( audacity fo instance )
[02:43] <frogzoo> jesse - double click trash & restore -e asy
[02:43] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: shouldn't that be handled by the OSS emulation of ALSA?
[02:44] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: I mean, what's the emulation good for if all OSS-only applications just grab the device exclusively?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: I don't know enough to answer that properly
[02:44] <moss_> anyone know a good benchmarking program
[02:44] <moss_> for seeing system performance?
[02:44] <drgreborn> say when i do "gcc -DCARDBUS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
[02:44] <drgreborn> -O6 -c rtl8139.c -o realtek_cb.o -I/usr/src/linux/pcmcia-cs-3.0.9/include/"
[02:45] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: all I know is that I canrun alsa output apps simultaneously, but not OSS only apps like audacity or skype
[02:45] <drgreborn> it says the rtl8139.c is not foound
[02:45] <drgreborn> but i'm in the flder already
[02:45] <moss_> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:45] <moss_>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[02:45] <frogzoo> drgreborn: if you can 'cat rtl8139.c' it should work
[02:45] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: same here, but as long as nobody can explain to me what oss emulation is actually good for I resist giving up on this issue :)
[02:46] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: you need a guru like crimsun to explain it :) I don't understand it myself
[02:47] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: alright thanks for trying :)
[02:47] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: good luck :)
[02:47] <ubuntu_noob> do i need any extra samba tools to enable and configure file sharing on my ubuntu box?
[02:47] <frogzoo> !samba
[02:47] <ubotu> I heard samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:48] <drgreborn> frogzoo: so i add the cat in front of the rtl8139.c ?
[02:48] <frogzoo> drgreborn: no no - just try it from a shell prompt to see if you can read the file
[02:51] <Knight_Lord> The most amazing thing just happened. I just installed Ubuntu but i don't recall it to ask for the root password!
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Knight_Lord about root
[02:52] <drgreborn> I have this error "-Wstrict-prototypes
[02:52] <drgreborn>    -O6 unrecognised command line option"
[02:52] <Knight_Lord> Kamping_Kaiser ok so i have sudo access by default?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> correct
[02:52] <Knight_Lord> Kamping_Kaiser sudo su - is my friend :-P
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> Knight_Lord: use sudo -i
[02:52] <Knight_Lord> Kamping_Kaiser ok thanks for the help
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> full root env
[02:53] <apokryphos> Has anyone got successfully got cgi scripts to be executable in /var/www? Most indications seem to imply that just uncommenting a line in apache2.conf should do it, but it doesn't seem to work
[02:53] <drgreborn> frogzoo:whats this mean?  "-Wstrict-prototypes
[02:53] <drgreborn> drgreborn    -O6 unrecognised command line option"
[02:53] <kvantti> has someone solved the problem that causes wolfenstein et to give no sound in ubuntu?
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: try the forums
[02:54] <Knight_Lord> Kamping_Kaiser i just installed Ubuntu in my laptop, and coming from Debian i'm pleasently surprised. My touchpad works without installed anything
[02:54] <pont> kvantti, kill esd ?
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Knight_Lord: it's a nice distro, but it does have it's quirks
[02:54] <Knight_Lord> Kamping_Kaiser debian or ubuntu?
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> knowing how apt- works before starting helps a lot :)
[02:55] <frogzoo> drgreborn: man gcc :)
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Knight_Lord: ubuntu
[02:55] <jesse> Frogzoo when I double click trash I get 2 trash windows.. Where is Restore?
[02:55] <aeon17x> jesse: Restore doesn't exit.
[02:55] <aeon17x> *exist
[02:55] <Knight_Lord> Kamping_Kaiser such a nice Gnome theme i might even consider switching from WindowMaker to Gnome
[02:55] <frogzoo> jesse are your files in there? just drag to desktop?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Knight_Lord: i havent changed it from default in the 10 months or so i have used it
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> whatever they put in seems to be fine
[02:56] <Bob332> im installing ubuntu and its asking me to erase entire disk and use LVM, whats LVM?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Bob332: don't bother with lvm
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Logical Volume Management
[02:57] <thoreauputic> Bob332: if you don't know, you don't want it
[02:57] <frogzoo> gxine or totem for choice? which is better?
[02:57] <ookami__> i typed "uptime" and its showing the details......... but its also showing 3 users. How do i find out what users they are? i only remember setting up 2users. My self and my gf (account which has not been used) any ideas?
[02:57] <kvantti> lk
[02:57] <kvantti> ol
[02:57] <kvantti> pon what is esd?
[02:58] <drgreborn> frogzoo: I cant find it in the man. Googling throws up nothing
[02:58] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: wrong question - totem-xine or gxine would be a better comparison
[02:58] <pont> ookami__, Perhaps your logged on once and your gf twice ?
[02:58] <frogzoo> Bob332: lvm is the logical volume manager - you shouldn't need it typically - do you have a spare partition(s)?
[02:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> ookami__: the users are logged in users. your gdm session and (probably) 2 terminals
[02:58] <pont> ookami__, who
[02:58] <frogzoo> ookami__: who
[02:58] <ookami__> ok.
[02:58] <ookami__> who shows ookami :0, pts/0 , pts/1
[02:58] <frogzoo> ookami__: these will be terminals
[02:59] <tonymahoon> hey everybody
[02:59] <pont> pts/0 is a psydo terminal
[02:59] <pont> :0 is x
[02:59] <pont> so gdm and two terminals
[02:59] <thoreauputic> s/psydo/pseudo
[02:59] <pont> :P
[02:59] <tali> PSYCHE!! Terminals :P
[03:00] <ookami__> I see. no idea what it really means though.
[03:00] <pont> me spell good !!!
[03:00] <thoreauputic> ookami__: if you close a terminal, the count will go down to 2
[03:01] <theD3viL> does ubuntu has udev or devfs?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> ookami__: each terminal counts as a user
[03:01] <thoreauputic> udev
[03:01] <markus__> HI
[03:01] <ookami__> thoreauputic, nice. didnt know that. Thanks. it makes more sense now.
[03:01] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, 4.10 too ?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> ookami__: :)
[03:02] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: not sure - I think it used udev but don't quote me ;)
[03:02] <ookami__> one more question...I launched GKrellM.... and its showing i have 15/15 mail. but i click the icon and it does nothing. (i dont remember setting up mail....)
[03:02] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, kk...tnx
[03:02] <markus__> hi, i have a FS prob?
[03:02] <jenda> what prob?
[03:02] <Bob332> frogzoo, i dont have a spare partition, what would be the advantage of LVM
[03:02] <ookami__> /var/mail/ookami (showing 1/15.
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic:  :)
[03:02] <aris[glande] > hello people
[03:02] <ookami__> err 15/15/
[03:02] <doctormo> hello aris
[03:02] <markus__> i use ext3 for root and now it has a IMAGIC FLAG SET
[03:02] <drgreborn> frogzoo: the compilitaion gives some errors
[03:03] <aris[glande] > I am looking for an installation image of 5.04 that fits on one or two 1.44 disks. any idea ?
[03:03] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, uh..and .. can i install 4.10 and then upgrade to breezy ?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: yes, you can
[03:03] <markus__> and i dont know how to fix it, fsck.ext3
[03:03] <topyli> thoreauputic: you can now install breezy! ;-)
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: yes, but not cleanly
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> aris[glande] : good luck
[03:04] <frogzoo> markus__: ext3 for root is stock standard - what's this magic flag though?
[03:04] <aris[glande] > argh :/
[03:04] <GreenCult> buenos dias a todos
[03:04] <thoreauputic> topyli: oh, I've had breezy for several weeks due to variuos people's generosity in sending me discs :)
[03:04] <aris[glande] > there are some info abouts network installation with pxe
[03:04] <ookami__> Anacron job 'cron.daily' on Navi ? ...any ideas?
[03:04] <aris[glande] > but the laptop is too old and has no pxe support
[03:04] <topyli> thoreauputic: i know :)
[03:04] <frogzoo> drgreborn: then you're could be compiling the wrong version driver for your setup I'd guess
[03:04] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, what about depencies problems ?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> topyli: but now I can give some away
[03:04] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: taken care of by apt
[03:05] <markus__> while booting the system says i have to log in as root user and fix it manually. ive done this but the problem is still there
[03:05] <thoreauputic> !tell theD3viL about breezy
[03:05] <arioch_> does anyone here know anything about compiling wine and dealing with errors in the make process?
[03:05] <drgreborn> frogzoo: can I sho the errors?
[03:05] <topyli> thoreauputic: yeah, distributed mine out in a seminar
[03:05] <sss_lr> markus__, display problem?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: you might want to upgrade to hoary then breezy
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you have the bandwidth
[03:05] <markus__> no
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> 450M~ per update
[03:06] <redguy> can anyone tell me if http://lists.zerezo.com/video4linux/msg00674.html appliest to ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel as well? Where I could check it? (I would need the kernel source, but what if it's included in some ubuntu specific patch?)
[03:06] <sss_lr> arioch_, there is wine package for ubuntu
[03:06] <markus__> only a my ext3 has a imagic flag set at inode 10238333
[03:06] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, k .. tnx.. but..hm...where goes exemple: OOo 1.4 .. and then upgraded to 2.0 .. where goes 1.4? removed ?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: yes - I haven't heard of anyone directly going from warty to breezy
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> niether
[03:06] <frogzoo> markus__: fscking root is a bit tricky - easiest would be to boot from a recovery disk, eg RIP, and run fsck.ext3 /dev/hdxxx from there
[03:06] <frogzoo> your problem is that you can't fsck while the partition is mounted
[03:06] <markus__> why?
[03:07] <markus__> and what is a IMAGIC FLAG
[03:07] <nightswim> !sudo
[03:07] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:07] <doyley> hmm
[03:07] <frogzoo> markus__: I think it just means the file system is dirty - you didn't shutdown properly
[03:07] <doyley> anyone help me? :)
[03:07] <markus__> yes one time
[03:07] <Knight_Lord> Energy management is working =-O. I'm bewildered
[03:08] <LjL> frogzoo: what about  shutdown -F -r ?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> markus__: if you fsck while a partition is mounted, it is dangerous because it might change during the procedure, and be corrupted (in simple terms)
[03:08] <doyley> my screen is split in half :\
[03:08] <kvantti> damn, this enemy territory gives me 0 errors which people describe all the time in the et forums, and my problem is just 0 sound..there was a solve for this, and if the person which told me about it could give me the link, i would greatly appreciate
[03:08] <markus__> i try now
[03:09] <markus__> l8er
[03:09] <LjL> markus__:  shutdown -F -r
[03:09] <frogzoo> LjL: problem is, he can't boot up in the first place
[03:09] <LjL> frogzoo, markus__ : where does booting stop?
[03:10] <frogzoo> LjL: I think it was as soon as the fsck of /
[03:10] <frogzoo> ie nowhere
[03:10] <LjL> that's bad
[03:11] <arioch_> Can one patch the ubuntu wine package that is found in the repository?
[03:11] <LjL> i would use SMART too to check for any hardware failure
[03:11] <frogzoo> LjL: he brought it on himself - just powered off from the sounds of things
[03:12] <LjL> frogzoo: i "just power off" quite often, and never got something like that
[03:12] <Knight_Lord> How do i get mplayer or something like that in ubuntu?
[03:12] <LjL> frogzoo: (yeah, i know "just powering off" isn't quite recommended)
[03:12] <Knight_Lord> apt-cache search mplayer didn't prove very successful
[03:12] <frogzoo> LjL: well one of these days...
[03:12] <grenlan> automatix rocks btw
[03:13] <LjL> frogzoo: ext3 is journaled, it shouldn't get the filesystem in such a messy state even after a hard poweroff
[03:13] <grenlan> i am quite new and the lack of codecs was driving me insane lol
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Knight_Lord: you need the multiverse repository
[03:13] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[03:13] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[03:13] <LjL> frogzoo: say "one of these years" anyway, 'cause i've been running Debian with ext3 on my server for about four years, and i often just turned the power off ;)
[03:14] <panzar> hi
[03:14] <panzar> mplayer can't find any fonts in the font-path.
[03:14] <panzar> where should i point the font-path, please?
[03:14] <LjL> frogzoo: anyway, i'm not really advocating hard power-offs, mind you, just saying they aren't supposed to mess your filesystem to such a bad state
[03:15] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-fonts
[03:15] <ubotu> mplayer-fonts: (Fonts for mplayer), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 3.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1305 kB, Installed size: 7172 kB
[03:15] <panzar> ah, thanks thoreauputic
[03:16] <fc123> :))
[03:16] <fc123> im  in
[03:16] <fc123> yessssssssssssssssssssssss
[03:16] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: concerning ALSA, OSS-emulation, and dmix: I figured it out. If you wanna read it yourself, go to http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin and search for the first point in the "Additional Info" section
[03:16] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: ah thanks :)
[03:17] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: basically, the dmix device requires ALSA-aware applications. OSS-only apps can only be made to work with dmix by using the aoss wrapper
[03:17] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: so it's possiblr?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> aha
[03:17] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: unfortunately, the version of skype in ubuntu has this bug that makes it segfault when loading via aoss
[03:17] <topyli> panzar: the mplayer-fonts package advertises itself as "non-mandatory", but mplayer doesn't seem to work without it. i'd call it a dependency bug but the package is totally unsupported so there's nowhere to file bugs to :)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: the joys of closed source - we have to hope they fix it since we can't
[03:18] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: yeah this sucks bad ass since skype is so popular
[03:18] <markus__> hi
[03:19] <fc123> skype wont  work on  ubuntu??
[03:19] <fc123> did i hear it  right??
[03:19] <markus__> i call with skype under ubuntu
[03:19] <tumi> why not?
[03:19] <CosmoDad> fc123: no
[03:19] <fc123> i try  t    dl  it   hour ago
[03:20] <CosmoDad> fc123: skype is an example for an application that won't work with aoss
[03:20] <fc123> i cant install   skype
[03:20] <belou> how do i use cairo-gtk-engine?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> !skype
[03:21] <CosmoDad> !tell fc123 about skype
[03:21] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:21] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: :)
[03:22] <frogzoo> !skype
[03:22] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:23] <osfameron> is that esd and skype issue fixed in Breezy?
[03:23] <sss_lr> arioch_, sorry the packages are fine i guess are using breezy?
[03:24] <fc123> what is  taht??
[03:24] <fc123> i miss   that url
[03:24] <fc123> about  skype
[03:25] <sss_lr> arioch_, able to see my reply/
[03:25] <frogzoo> !tell fc123 about skype
[03:25] <fc123> tnx   frogzoo
[03:26] <Bob332> is ubuntu server basically a debian server?
[03:27] <frogzoo> Bob332: all the packages are still Ubuntu packages, not Debian...
[03:27] <Bob332> frogzoo, so are the packages the same
[03:27] <frogzoo> no, they're not
[03:28] <frogzoo> probably very similiar, but definately not 100% compatible
[03:28] <sss_lr> arioch_, able to see
[03:28] <Bob332> frogzoo, so are there fewer packages
[03:28] <Rawplayer> MI
[03:28] <arioch_> yes
[03:28] <arioch_> I am trying to message you, but you don't respond
[03:29] <sss_lr> arioch_, same case with me too...lol
[03:30] <fc123> hehehehehehehe:)
[03:30] <fc123> just  finish reading  eh
[03:30] <arioch_> sss_lr, hmm, how to fix that?
[03:30] <apansson> hello, i need some help..
[03:31] <apansson> i want to connect my Nvidiacard to my TV
[03:31] <fc123> is  ubunto can suppoirt  webcams??
[03:31] <apansson> how do i do that?
[03:31] <sss_lr> arioch_, pakages are ok i guess r u using breezy?
[03:31] <arioch_> sss_lr, yes
[03:32] <sss_lr> arioch_, apt-get update && apt-get install wine
[03:32] <sss_lr> arioch_, if error tell me what error
[03:32] <arioch_> sss_lr, will I be able to patch it to work with World of Warcraft?
[03:33] <sss_lr> arioch_, may be i never tried that
[03:33] <Azeul> Hello all i wonder if any of you kind souls can help me
[03:34] <Azeul> I'm attempting to get ubuntu to recognise my battery status
[03:34] <Azeul> i have followed the steps from the wiki, but theres a PROBLEM
[03:34] <aris[glande] > what problem ?
[03:35] <Azeul> when i attempt to do the /.iasl bit
[03:35] <george_> hi
[03:35] <Azeul> my terminal all the text in it, including the title turn into symbols
[03:36] <penguinzdr> how can i make ubuntu packages from source?
[03:36] <mjr> Azeul, try giving the "reset" command on the terminal
[03:36] <Azeul> ok, well that kinda sorted it
[03:37] <Azeul> i can now read any text i type, but i canse see the code thats gone previous
[03:37] <sss_lr> arioch_, http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/101-World-of-Warcraft-working-in-Linux-with-WINE.html
[03:37] <penguinzdr> how can i make ubuntu packages from source?
[03:37] <fc123> hmm
[03:38] <fc123> anybody knows  how can i   make  an image   of my  ubuntu??
[03:38] <fc123> and  restore it later  when it  crashes??
[03:38] <fc123> anybody knows  how can i   make  an image   of my  ubuntu??
[03:38] <aris[glande] > it doesn't crash :)
[03:38] <fc123> naaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
[03:39] <fc123> ] save it on   CD and retoe it again??
[03:39] <fc123> hehehehe
[03:39] <sss_lr> arioch_, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:39] <penguinzdr> how can i make ubuntu packages from source?
[03:39] <fc123> ?
[03:39] <fc123> plsssss:)
[03:40] <apokryphos> Penguin: good guide/links at http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[03:40] <sss_lr> penguinzdr: use alien
[03:40] <Mabus06> no spamming fc123
[03:40] <ari_> uboto tell me about repositories
[03:41] <Azeul> hmm
[03:41] <fc123> sorry
[03:41] <GreenCult> aaaaaa <-- it's a spamming??
[03:41] <penguinzdr> sss_lr, and whats alien?
[03:41] <sharket> hello
[03:41] <fc123> did  i??
[03:41] <Azeul> when i compile the thing with the ./iasl i'm meant to et a .hex file and a .aml file
[03:41] <fc123> hi shark
[03:41] <Azeul> but i only have the .hex
[03:42] <sss_lr> penguinzdr: apt-cache show alien
[03:42] <sharket> how can i install plugins for mozilla from linux ?
[03:42] <sharket> hello erki  estonian :D
[03:42] <erki> hi
[03:42] <erki> can any1 help me?
[03:42] <linuxgeek2> yup
[03:42] <sharket> linuxgeek2:  do u know hwo ?
[03:42] <apokryphos> penguinzdr: another way is to just use checkinstall, so ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && configure && checkinstall
[03:43] <penguinzdr> ok, i will try with both
[03:43] <ari_> is uboto dead?
[03:43] <erki> I need to delete file that is in a directory on NTFS HDD i have mounted my NTFS drive, but i cant delete any files there. i can open them.
[03:43] <ari_> it doesn't answer
[03:43] <erki> help please
[03:43] <apokryphos> !test
[03:43] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaise1> ari i doubt it
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaise1> are you registered/?
[03:43] <fc123> hehehhe;)
[03:44] <linuxgeek2> huh ?
[03:44] <fc123> ubuntu is no.1
[03:44] <ari_> kamping, do I need to be registered to use uboto?
[03:44] <fc123> suse  is  only  2nd
[03:44] <erki> theres a virus in windows/system32 and i wanna delete it in Ubuntu :)
[03:44] <apokryphos> ari_: yes
[03:44] <erki> i have mounted this NTFS drive
[03:44] <fc123> :))))))))))
[03:44] <sharket> then ?
[03:44] <sharket> remove it
[03:45] <erki> i cant
[03:45] <fc123> lolo erki
[03:45] <sharket> why
[03:45] <apokryphos> !tell ari_ about register
[03:45] <ari_> thanks apok
[03:45] <erki> it says items on my NTFS drive are protected
[03:45] <mjr> erki, you can't write on an ntfs drive in Linux (without going through some pains to do so)
[03:45] <ccc_> erki: ntfs under linux is read only
[03:45] <erki> but delete?
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaise1> erki: you cant write *safely*
[03:45] <erki> :/
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaise1> erki: delete is write
[03:45] <Talisker> Are there older version of packages in the repos or do I have to get and install them myself?
[03:45] <erki> oh ok..
[03:45] <sharket> mjr: how can i install plugis to mozilla from linux ?
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaise1> you just write it out of existance
[03:46] <erki> what are the pains ? :D
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaise1> erki: 90% or something chance of data loss.....
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaise1> (last i used it anway)
[03:46] <Glossary> how can i install my soundcard driver?
[03:47] <erki> Ok,  thanks for info
[03:47] <erki> goodbye
[03:49] <ubuntu> ;l
[03:50] <fc123> hahahahahaha:))))))
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaise1> o_0
[03:51] <penguinzdr> how long it takes an average compiling?
[03:51] <matej_> Will system work faster if i install kernel k7? I have AMD Athlon XP and right now have kernel-386?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaise1> matej_: yes
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaise1> in theory
[03:51] <aris[glande] > fc123, you're wanting to save your personnal documents, or your complete setup ?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaise1> matej_: in some cases the extra optomisations will be a godsend, for wordprocessing, probably not
[03:52] <penguinzdr> how long it takes an average compiling?
[03:52] <matej_> Kamping_Kaise1, k..ill install it
[03:52] <aris[glande] > Penguin, average compiling of what ?
[03:52] <blue-frog> Penguin, 30 sec to few hours...
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Penguin: there's no such thing as an "average" compiling
[03:52] <aris[glande] > a complete system on gentoo can take 2 days of compiling with an athlon64
[03:52] <penguinzdr> compiling of BMP/Audacious
[03:52] <aris[glande] > and the software I develop takes 30 seconds
[03:53] <aris[glande] > penguinzdr, try, and then you'll know
[03:53] <blue-frog> penguinzdr, try it u'll tell us...
[03:53] <aris[glande] > generaly it's not very slow
[03:53] <aris[glande] > openoffice takes a whole day
[03:53] <aris[glande] > but ooo is huge
[03:53] <penguinzdr> i have a 1.8 GHz processor. will it take one day?
[03:53] <penguinzdr> i mean BMPO
[03:53] <penguinzdr> without O
[03:53] <aris[glande] > more likely half an hour
[03:54] <MagicFab> Helo
[03:54] <MagicFab> (Hello) :)
[03:54] <aftertaf> aris[glande] :  ca glande ca glande :)
[03:54] <penguinzdr> aris[glande] , what software do you devel?
[03:54] <aris[glande] > aftertaf, it's my second nature
[03:54] <aris[glande] > penguinzdr, a ssh library
[03:55] <aftertaf> ari_:  hehe me 2, grave ;)
[03:55] <penguinzdr> wow
[03:55] <Knight_Lord> ?Is there any ubuntu tool to change sources.list?
[03:55] <sharket> nano
[03:55] <MagicFab> If any Colombians are lurking around, or if you know of any, please visit / invite them to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam
[03:55] <aftertaf> Knight_Lord:  test editor or synaptic...
[03:55] <sharket> vi , kate
[03:55] <sharket> :D
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Knight_Lord: synaptic/kynaptic/adept
[03:55] <aftertaf> *text
[03:55] <aris[glande] > Knight_Lord, synaptics does that
[03:55] <aftertaf> !tell Knight_Lord about apt
[03:56] <aris[glande] > i'm installing ubuntu on a cdromless laptop
[03:56] <Knight_Lord> But editing by hand is still fine right?
[03:56] <aris[glande] > by upgrading the older debian install
[03:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Knight_Lord: sure
[03:56] <penguinzdr> yay! compiled for ten minutes!
[03:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i do ;)
[03:56] <Knight_Lord> ok
[03:56] <wolfi> hi
[03:56] <wolfi> whats up?
[03:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> aris[glande] : you might be doing what I'm about dto do with this imac - Sarge install then dist-upgrade to Breezy ;)
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi wolfi
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:57] <aris[glande] > i'm going to upgrade to hoary
[03:57] <aris[glande] > because my download quota is low and I don't have a breezy i386 cd at hand
[03:57] <aris[glande] > only an amd64
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> aris[glande] : afaik there is no ubuntu install floppies
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> if there are some tell me about them ;)
[03:58] <aris[glande] > it sucks
[03:58] <aris[glande] > in fact
[03:58] <aris[glande] > it's possible to load a floppy that loads a kernel through pxe
[03:58] <aris[glande] > (etherboot)
[03:58] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , do you have network connection on your laptop?
[03:58] <aris[glande] > then, there is pxe installation support right into ubuntu
[03:58] <aris[glande] > blue-frog, only through pcmcia
[03:58] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , and a working linux installed?
[03:59] <aris[glande] > I have a working sarge. i'm removing unusuful packages (gnome, x, kde)
[03:59] <matej_> Can i install every program with WINE? ... program not a game...
[03:59] <aris[glande] > then i'm going to change sources
[03:59] <aris[glande] > and cross my fingers
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> matej_: no
[03:59] <matej_> Kamping_Kaiser, what about
[03:59] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , then get ubuntu iso on your laptop and install from hard disk
[04:00] <Bob332> i just loaded ubuntu live, how do i start a gui, i tried startx and it gave errors saying xauth. error while loading shared libraries
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> matej_: you cant install *every* program, you can install *some* programs
[04:00] <aris[glande] > blue-frog, the hard disk is too small... and i couldn't boot on the image
[04:00] <jack-> anyone here who happens to have gShield? the download link on their homepage is dead
[04:01] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , hard disk space is one thing, booting on image is just a little trick to do
[04:01] <jack-> need some simple iptables frontend/wrapper for my wannabe admins
[04:01] <shaji> Kamping_Kaiser , hi ..i still didnt get my splash screen working.I installed ubuntu-desktop and usplash aswell .But system tries to display an image and suddenly fails
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> jack-: firestarter?
[04:01] <sladen> shaji: fails, /how/
[04:01] <aris[glande] > explain me, how may I boot on the cdrom image with the ubuntu kernel ? (which is embedded into the iso image itself)
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> shaji: shaji can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.list into pastebin?
[04:02] <jack-> fn~Kamping_Kaiser: is firestarter a gui thing or pure scripts as well?
[04:02] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/sans_cd
[04:02] <centrebullet> what file do I have to edit to add modules to be loaded on boot?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> jack-: gui'
[04:02] <jack-> damn
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> jack-: firestarter is a gui
[04:02] <jack-> thx anyway..got gnome-lokkit etc already
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !firestarter
[04:02] <ubotu> hmm... firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[04:02] <jack-> need something thats curses based or pure scripts
[04:02] <thoreauputic> centrebullet: add them to /etc/modules
[04:02] <KASI> Could not lookup internet address for. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly . It maybe possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts .... wat is this, wat should i do ?
[04:03] <shaji> Kamping_Kaiser , currently  i am working from a different machine
[04:03] <jack-> for a server without x11
[04:03] <topyli> jack-: you set it up with the gui. you don't have to look at it again after that :)
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> shaji: oh, ok
[04:03] <jack-> doesnt matter..no x11, no gui
[04:03] <jack-> dont want to have to install x11 just for a remote window
[04:03] <topyli> jack-: oh yeah
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> KASI: have you chaged your hosts file?
[04:03] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , froom 1.2 u need to retrieve vmlinuz and initrd.gz
[04:03] <aris[glande] > i see
[04:03] <trappist> jack-: ipkungfu
[04:03] <jack-> pure script?
[04:03] <KASI> Kamping_Kaiser  NO
[04:03] <trappist> yeah
[04:03] <jack-> thx, let me check
[04:04] <aris[glande] > it would be a really good solution if I had enough space for a 650mb partition
[04:04] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , i know the site is in franch but command lines are command lines...
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> shaji: check your line looks like this `kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-686 root=/dev/hdb3 ro quiet splash` with the splash bit
[04:04] <centrebullet> Ok and what file under etc holds the network card info?
[04:04] <aris[glande] > blue-frog, i speak french :)
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> KASI: if you type ifconfig do you have loopback?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> centrebullet: /etc/network/interfaces
[04:05] <centrebullet> thanks
[04:05] <KASI> i don't know , i am not currently logged in to ubuntu , cuz the internet is not working on that , i am on windows now to ask for help
[04:05] <blue-frog> aris[glande] , if u don't have 650 Mb in your laptop, am not sure that u will be able to install much of ubuntu..
[04:05] <aris[glande] > blue-frog, but thanks for the hint, i'll try this solution if the debian-upgrading does not work
[04:06] <aris[glande] > blue-frog, i have 2.2gb but i have it on a single partition, i'm not able to cut it down
[04:06] <penguinzdr> wow audacious is cool
[04:06] <aris[glande] > and I don't want to have a 650mb partition left apart after the install
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> KASI: it's one of 2 thinkgs, you have no loopback, or your hosts file is wrong IIRC. I'll go with the former
[04:06] <KASI> i've been trying to make the internet work on that but its still not working , can't even open a single website
[04:06] <KASI> wats the former ?
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> loopback
[04:07] <KASI> how can i get loopback
[04:08] <KASI> i have freshly installed ubuntu and am a beginner
[04:08] <viller> hi!
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> KASI: in ubuntu, if you type 'ifconfig' in a terminal and it says 'lo' on the first few lines your ok with that, if it's missing 'lo', then add the lines `auto lo` and `iface lo inet loopback`
[04:08] <MenZa`> KASI: Welcome to the world of Ubuntu :)
[04:08] <viller> how can i become root so that i could do root stuff in nautilus too?
[04:09] <blue-frog> KASI, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[04:09] <KASI> i just can't understand why r we going towards the difficult operating systems ?
[04:09] <KASI> where is the terminal ?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> KASI: accessories (in breezy)
[04:10] <KASI> terminal is a programme right
[04:10] <thoreauputic> KASI: it's only difficult because you aren't used to it yet :)
[04:11] <Mabus06> can anyone give me a one line explanation of the difference between KDE and GNOME?
[04:11] <KASI> if i copuld only get my internet work on ubuntu , that would be a million dollar relief
[04:11] <viller> how can i become root so that i could do root stuff in nautilus too?
[04:11] <KASI> could*
[04:11] <Mabus06> I'll help you for half of that, KASI.
[04:11] <_jason> kde looks prettier
[04:11] <|mp|> anyone any ideas about this bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20177
[04:11] <louie> are there any known problems with dhcp in dapper?
[04:11] <blue-frog> Mabus06, look and feel...
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mabus06: Gnome is mac, KDE is Windows
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: you don't generaly
[04:11] <KASI> thanx
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: try gksudo nautilus
[04:12] <KASI> so can u tell me wat should i do now
[04:13] <osh> How can I configure my cups printer through the cups-web-interface? The root password is unset and that's the only one that allows login, isnt' it? Where does cups look for authentication? Is it in /etc/passwd(shadow) or does it use it's own files, like webmin?
[04:13] <Mabus06> viller, if you really want to you can enable your root account and simply login as it at the login screen
[04:13] <aris[glande] > osh, they say you should not use the web interface
[04:13] <osh> I don't have any X installed on this machine which is why I'd like to be able to use the web-interface.
[04:13] <aris[glande] > only the gtk one
[04:13] <aris[glande] > ah
[04:13] <aris[glande] > osh, edit the /etc/cups/cups.conf or cupsd.conf
[04:14] <aris[glande] > and add ALLOW FROM lines everywhere
[04:14] <viller> mabus06: how do i do that?
[04:14] <aris[glande] > then, disable the "restricted users" thing only
[04:14] <Mabus06> viller, I dont know how to do that after installation, I did it during installation
[04:14] <osh> aris[glande] : If there is a "server" distribution of ubuntu one should be able to use the non-gui tools. Methinks. Thanks for the answers. I'll go do that now. =)
[04:17] <ibrasil> i tried to update my ubunto but the process was not successfully, now i tried 'apt-get -f install' becouse the perl and perl-modules is broken but half system was removed, how to fix this?
[04:18] <Mabus06> lol sounds pressing, ibrasil
[04:19] <derek[] > anyway to format a fat32 partition into ext3 on windows?
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> derek[] : not through Windows
[04:19] <derek[] > dang
[04:19] <arioch_> has anyone been sucessful in running World of Warcraft in wine using the repository version of wine?
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> derek[] : stuff like partition magic does it, but Windows wont
[04:20] <derek[] > i got partition magic.. it does only ext2
[04:20] <viller> i have /home on another partition, how do i paste something to root??
[04:20] <derek[] > cp filename /root/ ?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: paste to root?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> derek[] : new partition magics do ext3 I'm sure of it
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> but why anyway?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> leave space and the partitioner will fill it
[04:21] <viller> kamping_kaiser: i mean / not /root
[04:21] <derek[] > cuz I'm afraid if I may format the wrong partition while installing ubuntu
[04:22] <viller> i know partition magic does ext3, I have done it myself
[04:22] <derek[] > viller, which ver.?
[04:22] <viller> derek[] : don't know :D
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: sudo cp ~/file /blah
[04:22] <musk> I am having trouble with my WPC-11 linksys laptop PMCMCIA card.
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> derek, leave 5 gig free space, ubuntu will use the right bit :)
[04:23] <Syx-T> heloo
[04:23] <Syx-T> vre-un roman pe aici
[04:23] <Syx-T> ?
[04:23] <viller> kamping_kaiser: i get: cp: omitting directory '...'
[04:23] <blue-frog> derek[] , how many partition do u have, which one do u want to use to install ubuntu?
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: -a or -r
[04:23] <derek[] > 4 partitions
[04:23] <derek[] > want to install on the first two
[04:23] <Syx-T> can someone tell me how can I compile and ron a program made in c++ ?
[04:23] <viller> kamping_kaiser: man cp?
[04:24] <musk> What is a known good wifi pcmcia card for ubuntu?
[04:24] <blue-frog> derek[] , do u keep windows?
[04:24] <derek[] > yeah
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: or cp --help
[04:24] <derek[] > have to
[04:24] <derek[] > gotta run flash
[04:24] <derek[] > i'm a designer
[04:24] <indypende> someone know a 64bit ubuntu's wiki or howto?
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> Syx-T: get the build-essentaial package
[04:24] <viller> kamping_kaiser: -r is for recursive, i don't know english that well, is that the right option?
[04:25] <derek[] > unless there's a flash like program for linux :)
[04:25] <Syx-T> I have make and gcc
[04:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: that means it will copy everthing in the directory
[04:25] <blue-frog> derek[] , so u tell me windows right now is installed on the last 2 partitions, are u sure?
[04:25] <viller> kamping_kaiser: thanks
[04:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> viller: np
[04:25] <sdakota> hi
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[04:26] <sdakota> how do I get the number of lines outputted by a command (like dir) ?
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakota: |wc -l
[04:26] <frogzoo> derek[] : sudo fdisk -l          just to be sure
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakota: `ls |wd -l`
[04:26] <sdakota> or can I get the number of files ending at .something ?
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's a pipe
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakota: `ls *something |wd -l`
[04:26] <sdakota> ls -o | wd -l
[04:26] <Syx-T> heloo
[04:26] <Syx-T> ?
[04:26] <sdakota> that gives one line more, but that doesn't metter
[04:27] <sdakota> matter*
[04:27] <skora> hello Syx-T
[04:27] <frogzoo> s/wd/wc
[04:27] <Syx-T> nobody can help
[04:27] <skora> hello oldguy
[04:27] <Syx-T> ?
[04:27] <skora> with
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Syx-T: did get build-essentials?
[04:27] <oldguy> hey all: i just enabled ldap using ubuntu docs...and cant sudo..
[04:28] <derek[] > <blue-frog> derek[] , so u tell me windows right now is installed on the last 2 partitions, are u sure?
[04:28] <derek[] > yeah
[04:28] <Syx-T> not iet, is making another update nou
[04:28] <Syx-T> just a sec
[04:28] <derek[] > <frogzoo> derek[] : sudo fdisk -l          just to be sure
[04:28] <derek[] > I'm on windoze at the moment
[04:28] <blue-frog> derek u have a weird installation...
[04:28] <sdakota> Kamping_Kaiser, wd: command not found
[04:28] <oldguy> there was a line in docs suggesting adding a line to /etc/pam.s/sudo..but that in breezy refers back to common-auth
[04:28] <derek[] > blue-frog, yeh.
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakota: wc
[04:28] <oldguy> skora: hi btw
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, my bad
[04:28] <frogzoo> derek[] : disk manager should show file system type of each partition
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> wc - Word Count
[04:29] <blue-frog> derek[] , u'd better install windows properly cause u may have surprises otherwise...
[04:29] <hussam> anybody here knows how to get dazuko kernel module to work on breezy?
[04:29] <sdakota> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[04:29] <frogzoo> !dazuko
[04:29] <ubotu> frogzoo: No idea
[04:29] <osh> aris[glande] : You don't happen to have  a link on how to do that cups-thingy as I can't really deal with it right now. My baby is crying and I'll have to prioritize that.
[04:30] <frogzoo> !cups
[04:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, frogzoo
[04:30] <derek[] > blue-frog, surprises after installing linux?
[04:30] <blue-frog> derek[] , yes, u'd better have windows using the first partition and install linux afterwards
[04:30] <aris[glande] > hmm i don't have any link
[04:31] <aris[glande] > i hacked that myself to debug my printing problems
[04:31] <Knight_Lord> When i changed from ati to fglrx driver my resolution went from 1200x800 to 1024x768. How to correct this?
[04:31] <sdakota> how to do $var1-$var2?
[04:31] <osh> aris[glande] : Too bad. Thanks anyway. I'll figure it out eventually I think.
[04:31] <sdakota> it outputs the string "var1-var2" here
[04:32] <sdakota> I mean, in bash...
[04:32] <fzwart> hi all. am looking for someone who can help me with an ubuntu breezy cd order/shipping question
[04:32] <centrebullet> Can someone tell me why everytime I try to run anything under System-->Admin my mouse cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs?
[04:32] <derek[] > blue-frog, well then I'll have to download a lot of updates for windows once again.. which is a pain and my internet connection has a download limit per month
[04:32] <Kaiser_Sleeps> good luck with questions everyone. have fun
[04:32] <blue-frog> oldguy, u need to add lines in common-auth common-account common-session common-passwd
[04:32] <ubuntu> hi
[04:33] <sdakota> how to do $var1-$var2 in bash?
[04:33] <dcs> hi , got a prob , NETWORKING is not opening , why ?
[04:33] <oldguy> blue-frog yes i did..to the letter
[04:33] <ubuntu> in spanish
[04:33] <_jason> !es
[04:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:33] <skora> dcs, did a sudo prompt come up
[04:33] <blue-frog> derek[] , can't remember exactly but windows may have put some stuff on the first partition, so if u put unix on it u won't be able to boot windows
[04:33] <dcs> nothing comes up
[04:33] <skora> what version are you using
[04:33] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-es
[04:34] <centrebullet> Can someone tell me why everytime I try to run anything under System-->Admin my mouse cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs?
[04:34] <derek[] > blue-frog, boot.ini ?
[04:34] <dcs> 5.10
[04:34] <skora> hmm.
[04:34] <dcs> cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs
[04:34] <soundray> Is there a way to make Gnome/Metacity show the window dimensions during a resize?
[04:34] <sdakota> soundray: how to do $var1-$var2 in bash?
[04:34] <dcs> i keep on double clicking networking but its dead
[04:34] <centrebullet> dcs: yeah
[04:34] <sdakota> soundray: hi, by the way =D
[04:34] <skora> dcs, can you even see a list of programs in networking ?
[04:35] <_jason> sdakota, have you tried google?
[04:35] <blue-frog> derek[] , maybe, whatever windows needs to boot, if it's on the first parttion and u format it u'll get nowhere then...
[04:35] <derek[] > ..
[04:35] <soundray> sdakota, hi, $[$var1-$var2] 
[04:35] <sdakota> _jason: I followed a little bash tutorial a few days ago - but can't remember
[04:35] <derek[] > blue-frog, thanks for warning
[04:35] <sdakota> soundray: thanks!
[04:35] <blue-frog> oldguy move to #bluefrog
[04:35] <fzwart> does anyone know of an email adress/phone number for contact concerning large ubuntu breezy shipping orders?
[04:35] <dcs> i am not talking abt the menu , i am talking abt the real NETWORKING programme , i need to edit my internet settings , configure my modem
[04:35] <centrebullet> nothing will run for me under System-->Admin my mouse cursor goes to busy and then nothing runs?
[04:35] <derek[] > who's this oldguy you're talking to?
[04:36] <blue-frog> derek[] , someone who needs help
[04:36] <derek[] > i don't see him speaking here
[04:36] <sdakota> soundray: /usr/local/sbin/countcompile: line 3: 44-: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "-")
[04:36] <skora> dcs, that sounds strange....i don't know. I'd try to see if there's a report about it on bugzilla
[04:36] <oldguy> derek{}: i was up i n MOntreal with the ltsp crew
[04:36] <oldguy> the oldguy
[04:36] <dcs> ok thanx
[04:36] <skora> fzwart, see https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[04:36] <centrebullet> Anyone have any ideas why I cannot run anything under System-->Admin?
[04:37] <blue-frog> oldguy, move to #bluefrog it will be quieter...
[04:37] <derek[] > oldguy, ok
[04:37] <skora> fzwart, do you have any questions regarding that ?
[04:37] <oldguy> like /join
[04:37] <fzwart> skora: i did, but i have a question that's not answered there unfortunately
[04:37] <skora> what is it
[04:37] <blue-frog> oldguy, yes
[04:37] <dcs> ubuntu is a good thing for low blood pressure patients , there blood can fly in no time lolz
[04:37] <soundray> sdakota, it works here...
[04:37] <sdakota> odd
[04:37] <fzwart> i do, about a specific delivery time to a location in the netherlands for 400 cd's
[04:38] <skora> were the cd's already ordered
[04:38] <fzwart> and i'm wondering if it's possible to get the order in time to add the cd to a christmas packet for all employees of the organisation i work for
[04:38] <fzwart> no not yet
[04:38] <Syx-T> Kamping_Kaiser and now?
[04:38] <skora> mmk
[04:38] <fzwart> i know i'm late , just hoping i'm not too late :(
[04:38] <skora> how much time do you need
[04:38] <sdakota> soundray: sec
[04:38] <skora> them by
[04:38] <fzwart> approx december 15th
[04:39] <oldguy> blue-frog: i did /join #bluefrog
[04:39] <oldguy> oops
[04:39] <sdakota> soundray: I've got a bash file with 5 lines - gives the error at exact that line, so...
[04:39] <Syx-T> helloi
[04:39] <Syx-T> ?
[04:39] <skora> fzwart, might be cutting it close...
[04:39] <fzwart> yeah, was afraid of that
[04:39] <soundray> sdakota, do you want to pastebin the script?
[04:39] <fzwart> but thought it doesn't hurt to ask if it's possible :)
[04:39] <skora> but if you haven't already, i'd definitely try emailing info@shipit.ubuntu.com and explain your situation to them
[04:40] <afonit> anyone familiar with using rsync?
[04:40] <fzwart> ok, thank you for the information
[04:40] <skora> welcome :)
[04:40] <Syx-T> Kamping_Kaiser are you here?
[04:40] <skora> good luck.
[04:40] <soundray> afonit, I've used it, familiar would be an exaggeration.
[04:40] <sdakota> soundray: first line is #!/bin/bash, next two lines execute a command (`ls *.o | wc -l`), then comes the line "numleft=$[$numo-$numc] ", then it just echoes $numleft...
[04:40] <skora> Syx-T, kamping left
[04:41] <Syx-T> can someone tell me how can I compile and ron a program made in c++ ?
[04:41] <belou> Syx-T, yep
[04:41] <afonit> soundray, do you know which flag to use to get it to delte what has been delted?  ie, in main directory folder a and folder b, rsync, now you have a,b on backup, now if you delete b then do rsync, a,b is still on backup, but only folder a is on main,
[04:41] <Syx-T> belou: how?
[04:41] <soundray> sdakota, are you sure $numo and $numc are numeric?
[04:41] <soundray> afonit, --delete
[04:41] <Syx-T> I have kaht2.c
[04:41] <afonit> not sure how to sync them (the main and the backup) to always reflect the deltedtions, as well as the additions
[04:41] <sdakota> soundray: numo=`ls *.o | wc -l`
[04:42] <sdakota> soundray: think so...
[04:42] <afonit> soundray, isn't delete to deltee a specific file?
[04:42] <Bob332> does anyone run ubuntu server on production systems/
[04:42] <afonit> ok, I will experiment though
[04:42] <soundray> afonit, no. man rsync
[04:42] <belou> so do : gcc -o pouet kaht2.c
[04:42] <sdakota> soundra: wc returns a number, it's probably captured or outputted as a string - how do i make an integer out of it?
[04:42] <afonit> soundray, ok, i will continue to read, thanks for the timp
[04:42] <soundray> sdakota, numo=$(ls *.o | wc -l | tr -d " ") ?
[04:43] <sdakota> soundray: i'll try that
[04:43] <kvantti> i wonder if someone knows what to do to get punkbuster for linux enabled for enemy territory? i have used the pbsetup tool, but it says that punkbuster is not enabled for enemy territory..any hints (sorry about off-topic)
[04:43] <sdakota> soundray: still error
[04:43] <sdakota> soundray: but nevermind, it's not that important.
[04:44] <sdakota> soundray: I just wanted to see how many files still needed to be compiled in the directory.
[04:44] <soundray> sdakota, give me a minute to try over here. I'm sure it'll come in handy...
[04:44] <sdakota> soundray: ok =) thanks
[04:44] <afonit> soundray - awesome, that worked, how does it keep track of what was deleted, is that the os or the rsync keeping track?
[04:44] <centrebullet> Ok I'm using Synaptic and want to remove apm but when I mark for removal it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well.  Is there any way to remove packages regardless of dependencies that might be broken?
[04:45] <soundray> afonit, rsync compares the trees on both sides before syncing.
[04:46] <afonit> soundray, thanks again
[04:46] <ruzzar> Hi
[04:46] <ruzzar> Ist da jemand
[04:46] <mamoru> Hello! Is there a text editor for ubuntu, where I can switch the encodings?
[04:47] <Bob332> can someone TELL me the default root password on new install
[04:47] <mamoru> Bob332, there is no root in ubuntu on new install
[04:47] <Moco> I am using totem to play a DVD movie that I made and burned to DVD. It acts as though it is an audio CD, and doesn't show video. What's going on?
[04:47] <belou> Bob332, there is no root
[04:47] <ruzzar> Hello Whats your name
[04:47] <Bob332> mamoru, lol
[04:48] <mamoru> Bob332, you should use 'sudo'
[04:48] <linkd> Bob332: u do root operations thru sudo.
[04:48] <marty> sera
[04:48] <Bob332> linkd, ok
[04:48] <linkd> Bob332: u can enable root if u *must* (not recommended!) sudo passwd root
[04:48] <linkd> but sudo works fine :D
[04:48] <soundray> sdakota, I cannot reproduce the problem. Maybe work around it by piping the subtraction to bc
[04:48] <Bob332> linkd, so does my first user have sudo rights to do everything
[04:48] <soundray> sdakota, ie., echo $numo-$numc | bc
[04:49] <mamoru> Bob332, yes, he should
[04:49] <linkd> Bob332: thats correct
[04:49] <marty> sera
[04:49] <soundray> Can I make evince open with a particular window geometry?
[04:49] <linkd> sudo is suid'd meaning when u run sudo it runs with root privledges and executes the commands u disire
[04:49] <Bob332> linkd, do you use the server option on any servers? production?
[04:49] <marty> qualcuno saprebbe dirmi come si configurano i temi per gkrellm??
[04:49] <sdakota> soundray: Ok, I'll try
[04:49] <_jason> soundray, you may have to look into using devilspie for that
[04:49] <linkd> Bob332: server option? i dont run ubuntu on production servers anyhow
[04:50] <ruzzar> Hi martii how are you?
[04:50] <linkd> i gotta run to my lecture now anyway so... bye
[04:50] <jkelly2005> i need some help please, i need to install flash for firefox, how can i do it?
[04:50] <soundray> _jason, ah, nice one, thank you...
[04:50] <ruzzar> wie bitte
[04:51] <Moco> kelly, go to the flash player website and download the tarball.
[04:51] <aris[glande] > Moco, isn't there some kind of autoinstall plugin into firefox ?
[04:51] <aris[glande] > or even a package into universe
[04:51] <_jason> jkelly2005, install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:51] <Moco> Maybe so... I installed mine from source.
[04:52] <theD3viL> hi...back .. i have installed ubuntu.. hm..but there isnt beep-media-player in reprosity? wtf? must i add something ?
[04:52] <_jason> !info beep-media-player
[04:52] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB
[04:52] <jkelly2005> i dont think i can install it, im running ubuntu on power pc.
[04:53] <_jason> theD3viL, have you enabled universe repo?
[04:53] <theD3viL> _jason, i didnt edit source.list ..
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell theD3viL about repos
[04:53] <theD3viL> _jason, i figure out..didnt see "#"
[04:53] <_jason> theD3viL, enable the universe repo for BMP
[04:54] <Mabus06> !wine
[04:54] <Moco> I am using totem to play a DVD movie that I made and burned to DVD. It acts as though it is an audio CD, and doesn't show video. What's going on?
[04:54] <Moco> I have libdvd and such, and it isn't encrypted.
[04:54] <ruzzar> Hi yvonne bist du da
[04:55] <ruzzar> Hi zuen
[04:57] <efbie> does someone knows how i can record a gnome session with vnc2swf ?
[04:57] <theD3viL> _jason, everything i can choise in synaptic repos .. is STABLE?
[04:58] <Moco> You have to veiw it over a VNC connection i think
[04:59] <nick_> my adsl connection connected through my router keeps disconnecting and reconnecting, any ideas?
[05:00] <mintonman> hi
[05:00] <jsteidl> hi
[05:00] <fyrmedic> me?
[05:00] <mintonman> I'm in the right place to get some help with ubuntu?
[05:01] <fyrmedic> supposedly
[05:01] <mintonman> there are lots of people here - can some of you answer technical questions - or all asking them!
[05:02] <frogzoo> mintonman: just ask - if someone can help, they will
[05:03] <j-a-p> Who's the thin client expert here?
[05:03] <yapyccky> hello everyone, i've a question: is normal that in DEvice Manager, when i focus on Processor (and not only that) Under Device i've just "Unknown"
[05:03] <yapyccky> sorry for terrible english
[05:03] <Knight_Lord> How can i enable ssh and ftp on my box?
[05:04] <CosmoDad> Knight_Lord: install ssh-server and some ftp server
[05:05] <m0r0n> Do you know the command to delete files with certain content? This command doesnt work: find . -type f -name "*.txt" | grep "d" -exec rm -rf {} 2&>/dev/null \;
[05:05] <Knight_Lord> CosmoDad i'm getting connection refused
[05:05] <mintonman> OK - I've two (older) machines, both hooked up, via ethernet cable, to a wireless router/switch, both with recently installed ubuntu - one the default install and one the server install. I want them to be able to see each other, and for the server to act as a file (and also print) server. Should I install samba on each (I will want to occasionally connect in my wireless XP laptop), or better to use something else???
[05:05] <CosmoDad> Knight_Lord: you mean when you try to connect to the ssh server or when you try to install the server package?
[05:05] <ubuntu_noob> is there a better way to install jre for mozilla (ie. through apt) rather than downloading and manually installing from java.com?
[05:06] <Knight_Lord> CosmoDad with the normal ftpd it was not working
[05:06] <Knight_Lord> CosmoDad but it worked with proftpd
[05:06] <theD3viL> Where to get codecs ?
[05:06] <_jason> theD3viL, which ones
[05:07] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[05:07] <aris[glande] > did you start it ?
[05:07] <CosmoDad> m0r0n: what about: find . -type -f -name "*.txt" -exec grep "d" {} && rm -fr {} \;
[05:07] <Trackilizer> Just wanted to ask how to delete "Grub" without a DOS diskete.
[05:07] <aris[glande] > Trackilizer, fdisk can do that I believe
[05:08] <m0r0n> CosmoDad, find: invalid argument `-f' to `-type'
[05:08] <CosmoDad> Knight_Lord: aris[glande] 's question is letigimate
[05:08] <Trackilizer> Er... what should i do?
[05:08] <CosmoDad> m0r0n: sorry -type f
[05:08] <Knight_Lord> CosmoDad it was not on init.d
[05:08] <Knight_Lord> CosmoDad but it's working now no problem
[05:08] <giany911> does any1 use weather on their start bar ?
[05:08] <CosmoDad> Knight_Lord: ok
[05:09] <aris[glande] > giany911, i look by my window
[05:09] <CosmoDad> giany911: you mean the gnome panel applet?
[05:09] <theD3viL> _jason, w32codecs..
[05:09] <aris[glande] > it's rainy and cold
[05:09] <_jason> ubotu, tell theD3viL about w32codecs
[05:09] <m0r0n> CosmoDad, find: missing argument to `-exec'
[05:09] <Trackilizer> aris, what is it i should do?
[05:09] <giany911> cosmodad yes nvm ..i didnt know how to choose my location but i got it
[05:09] <aris[glande] > Trackilizer, 2s
[05:09] <CosmoDad> aris[glande] : there's an error in your panel applet, it's actually sunny!
[05:09] <theD3viL> _jason, why evil?
[05:10] <lane> hi all, i have a quick question
[05:10] <_jason> theD3viL, I didn't write it but I would assume because they are proprietary
[05:10] <giany911> cosmodad .. do u know where can i get more applets?
[05:10] <CosmoDad> m0r0n: maybe you need (escaped?) quotes around the exec part, or remove the " around the 'd', play with it
[05:10] <CosmoDad> giany911: sorry no clue
[05:10] <theD3viL> _jason, what means proprietary? sry.. bad english
[05:10] <lane> is it possible to have a global menubar?
[05:11] <ubuntu_noob> anyone familiar with java, jre, and the rest (installing it, mind you)?
[05:11] <giany911> cosmodad ok ty
[05:11] <_jason> theD3viL, not open source, microsoft owns them and doesn't share
[05:11] <CosmoDad> ubuntu_noob: you could install blackdown's implemention of java
[05:11] <lane> @ubuntu_noob - what do you need to know?
[05:11] <theD3viL> _jason, eh...good then..
[05:11] <CosmoDad> ubuntu_noob: it's in the rep
[05:11] <histerik> bonjour tou le monde
[05:11] <LjL> !anyone
[05:11] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[05:11] <_jason> !fr
[05:11] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:11] <histerik> ok
[05:11] <histerik> cimer
[05:12] <lane> @Anyone: Is it possible to have a global menubar?
[05:12] <sklav> est bien on parle le francais dans ubuntu :)
[05:13] <CosmoDad> !tell ubuntu_noob about java
[05:13] <lane> I want my file/edit menus on the top panel instead of in the application (a.k.a. mac os style)  Can I do this?
[05:14] <LjL> Lane: yes, in KDE. no, in Gnome.
[05:14] <aris[glande] > lane, i doubt it's possible
[05:14] <efbie> ah, i started a vnc server but gnome isn't running in it, how do i run gnome in the vnc server ?
[05:14] <aris[glande] > LjL, possible in kde ?
[05:14] <LjL> aris[glande] : definitely possible
[05:14] <lane> that sucks, i thought gnome was supposed to be more like mac os and kde like windows
[05:14] <LjL> aris[glande] : tho, of course, it only works with kde apps
[05:15] <mintonman> how do I set up samba with a workgroup name so windoze can see files on my ubuntu machine?
[05:15] <LjL> Lane: i don't think that makes sense
[05:15] <lane> well, thems the brakes i guess
[05:15] <aris[glande] > none of them look like mac
[05:15] <lane> not exactly, no
[05:15] <LjL> aris[glande] : KDE with the right theme looks a lot like a mac, though :)
[05:15] <lane> but holistically (sp?) in a default install wouldn't you agree?
[05:16] <LjL> aris[glande] , Lane: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/pix/ssp/0.7/bonafide/standardalifinder0rh.jpg
[05:16] <ubuntu_noob> mintonman there's a ubunto page on setting that up, but i didn't write it down.  someone else pointed me there.
[05:16] <Trackilizer> How can i not remove but re-install GRUB?
[05:16] <LjL> Lane: in a default install, neither of them looks nearly like Mac imho. they both remind of windows a little
[05:17] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: sudo aptitude reinstall grub
[05:17] <lane> nice screen shot
[05:17] <melonipoika> hi all, when i mount a cdrom or usb hard disk, i can't see then in the desktop (i can see my windopws drive when i mount it) how can i repair this?
[05:17] <Trackilizer> CosmoDad, that will install GRUB on master drive?
[05:18] <frogzoo> Trackilizer: sudo grub-install
[05:18] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: use grub-install for that
[05:19] <Trackilizer> I tried that, but i get "command not found"
[05:20] <LjL> lane: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.shtml here's the gallery for those screenshots. note that the program required to obtain that look (except for icons, i think) is packaged in Ubuntu
[05:21] <Impotence> can someone give me a hand with my soundcard
[05:21] <Impotence> ?
[05:21] <rendo> I'm trying to run a MUD on 5.10 and when I try the startup I get this. bash: ./startup: bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:21] <rendo>  What can I do to get it to work?
[05:22] <osh> how can I get my [several nasty cursewords]  printer/cups, to stop printing my [the cursewords again]  job? The driver was wrong and now it's just printing gibberish. Resetting the printer doesn't work and stopping the job from cups doesn't either.
[05:23] <osh> the printer sais it doesn't accept jobs and I can "Cancel job" until my face turns blue. Doesn't stop the fscking printer from wasting paper anyway. :-(
[05:24] <rendo> Anyone....? :/
[05:24] <gimmulf>  Is there anyone in here with experience on running dual monitors(big screen) with an new ATI card, im using 2 different types of monitors but cant figure out how to set different resolutions on them
[05:24] <LjL> osh: rm -r -f /var/spool/cups/*      don't try this at home :-)
[05:24] <priich> rendo, have you installed csh ?
[05:24] <frogzoo> osh - the printer is printing from it's own memory
[05:24] <rendo> I dunno.
[05:25] <rendo> Probably not.
[05:25] <osh> frogzoo: I was thinking that too, but resetting the printer should purge that, but still it just keeps on printing.
[05:25] <rendo> I thought it came base installed....
[05:25] <priich> rendo, you can install it with synaptic if the universe repository is added
[05:25] <LjL> rendo: aptitude install csh
[05:25] <LjL> rendo: ubuntu comes with bash
[05:25] <rendo> I just did that LjL and it did the same thing.
[05:26] <Trackilizer> "sudo grub-install" doesn't seem to work, i get "command not found"
[05:27] <rendo> Where in synaptic do I find csh?
[05:27] <LjL> rendo: please, "cat <yourprogram> | head -1", and tell me the result
[05:27] <LjL> rendo: if you installed it already using the command line, it's installed already in synaptic as well
[05:27] <osh> LjL: clearing the spool did it. thanks.
[05:28] <LjL> osh: sometimes bad manners are effective ;)
[05:28] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: do you have grub installed at all?
[05:28] <rendo> #!bin/csh -f
[05:28] <chris__> is anyone running the dapper flight #1 cd that has rhythmbox installed
[05:28] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: if not, do that
[05:28] <Impotence> can anyone help me with my soundcard?
[05:28] <Impotence> it wont make any sound :>
[05:28] <LjL> rendo: that's wrong. change the first line of you program to say   #!/bin/csh -f
[05:29] <rendo> LjL: Did the same thing again
[05:29] <Trackilizer> CosmoDad, I do have GRUB istalled but ater uninstalling Fedora core4 i get a GRUB error, so i can't choose between Ubuntu and winxp.
[05:29] <Trackilizer> I'm using the live Cd
[05:30] <LjL> rendo: can you paste me again the error it gives please?
[05:30] <rendo> bash: ./startup: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:30] <goh> Hi may I know the command to get to the blue screen to configure screen resolution?
[05:30] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: what's the result of "whereis grub-install" ?
[05:30] <LjL> rendo: type "ls -l /bin/csh", does it show it?
[05:31] <LjL> rendo: (are you sudo your "sudo aptitude install csh" succeeded?)
[05:31] <LjL> s/sudo/sure
[05:31] <Trackilizer> CosmoDad, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo whereis grub-install
[05:31] <Trackilizer> grub-install:
[05:31] <rob_p> goh:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <rendo> Err.
[05:31] <rendo> No.
[05:31] <rendo> Says resource tempoarily unavailable.
[05:32] <LjL> rendo: then close Synaptic or whatever package manager you've open, and try again
[05:32] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: apparently, the ubuntu live CD doesn't come with grub-install
[05:32] <thrush> Trackilizer: thats a little odd
[05:32] <Zim_256> Help, i can't change the permissions of the partition HDA2 (Fat32, win98)
[05:32] <ecobuntu> Trackilizer: use a knoppix cd
[05:32] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: type grub -- will it enter the grub shell?
[05:32] <rendo> Couldn't find any package matching "csh".  However, the following
[05:32] <rendo> packages contain "csh" in their description:
[05:32] <rendo>   bash openssh-client openssh-server
[05:32] <LjL> rendo: enable the universe repository
[05:32] <rendo> How?
[05:32] <Trackilizer> Nope.
[05:33] <LjL> !tell rendo about repos
[05:33] <Trackilizer> Nothing happens.
[05:33] <Trackilizer> ecobuntu, what should i do once i boot into knoppix?
[05:33] <CosmoDad> Trackilizer: go get knoppix
[05:33] <LjL> rendo: in few words, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment all the lines saying "universe"
[05:34] <Trackilizer> Should i comeback into here once i have knoppix?
[05:34] <goh> rob_p: tks!
[05:34] <LjL> rendo: if you also want to enable "multiverse" (could come useful), then do follow the instruction ubotu gave you
[05:34] <thrush> Trackilizer: yes easy fix from knoppix
[05:34] <Trackilizer> So, what should i type once I'm in knoppix?
[05:35] <LjL> rendo: once done, type "sudo apt-get update", and then try installing csh again
[05:35] <Trackilizer> See you guys in a bit, Im booting into knoppix
[05:36] <osh> I don't get it. I just don't. I have no active jobs. I've deleted /var/spool/cups/*, I've removed the printer (from cups), I've reset the printer (nothing in memory) but still it just keeps sprouting out papers. I fscking hate printers now.
[05:36] <aris[glande] > osh, I had same problem
[05:36] <aris[glande] > your printer doesn't stop outputing garbage ?
[05:36] <LjL> osh: perhaps you've got something sending trash to the printer then... are you sure you chose the correct driver in cups?
[05:36] <osh> aris[glande] : So you jackhammered the fscker out of existance?
[05:37] <Zim_256> Anybody can help me?
[05:37] <sklav> osh your probably using the wrong driver
[05:37] <aris[glande] > did you manage to print anything right with ubuntu ?
[05:37] <sklav> that happened to me a while ago
[05:37] <osh> LjL: I probably did choose the wrong driver, but I've deleted that now so where does the garbage come from?
[05:37] <rendo> THANK YOU LJL
[05:37] <rendo> I EFFING LOVE YOUR BALLS
[05:37] <aris[glande] > osh, i had that problem... good driver. worked in gentoo, not in ubuntu
[05:37] <LjL> rendo: ?!
[05:37] <aris[glande] > I managed to make it work by deactivating EPP support into bios
[05:38] <sklav> osh which printer if i may ask?
[05:38] <skullb0x> by default, in ubuntu, is graphics exceleration on? so I can watch DVD's withjout them being laggy?
[05:38] <osh> sklav: Some old HP Laserjet 4L.
[05:38] <aris[glande] > osh, the remaining garbage comes from the // output buffer
[05:38] <sklav> skuosh try selecting postscript printer
[05:38] <artas> hi
[05:38] <sklav> osh try selecting postscript printer
[05:38] <aris[glande] > pity, there is not a single application able to flush the buffer
[05:38] <artas> i have problem
[05:38] <LjL> rendo: i'm not sure if you're trying to insult me, are you?
[05:39] <Seveas> LjL, he already left :)
[05:39] <artas> i install g+=
[05:39] <Zim_256> Help, i can't change the permissions of the partition HDA2 (Fat32, win98). I boot in root but i can't change the Write permission for anybody but root
[05:39] <artas> g++
[05:39] <sklav> LjL, i thiunk he loves you
[05:39] <artas> how can i run it??
[05:39] <Seveas> !tell Zim_256 about mountwinows
[05:39] <Seveas> !tell Zim_256 about mountwindows
[05:39] <aris[glande] > artas, g++
[05:39] <artas> where is it?
[05:39] <aris[glande] > artas, g++ is a compiler, not an IDE
[05:39] <artas> yes
[05:39] <__filip_> when i start ubuntu today all my "desktops" was gone, i meen the 4 you can choose. Somebody know how i can get them back?
[05:39] <artas> aaa
[05:40] <Seveas> artas, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:40] <CosmoDad> Zim_256: Fat32 doesn't support owner/access permissions, you'll have to define it globally in /etc/fstab
[05:40] <aris[glande] > install kdevelop or anjuta
[05:40] <artas> thx
[05:40] <LjL> Seveas: please, try to have universe enabled in Dapper... don't you all see the effect it does on people?! =)
[05:40] <Seveas> LjL, impossible
[05:40] <CosmoDad> __filip_: reinstall the virtual desktop gnome panel applet
[05:41] <Seveas> ubuntu will not ship with community-supported repositories enabled by default
[05:41] <sklav> Seveas, is there a reason for that?
[05:41] <Guest_172> hi there! where can i download a snapshot of 6.04?
[05:41] <aris[glande] > is there a metapackage that represents the whole packages installed by default on hoary ?
[05:41] <sklav> i mean cant it be an option in the installer
[05:41] <LjL> Seveas: no, you could give a VERY easy wait to enable them, tho! otherwise, people will keep going crazy as soon as i tell them to edit /etc/apt/sources.list!
[05:41] <sklav> do you want to have unsupported packages available?
[05:41] <Seveas> LjL, it IS very easy
[05:41] <LjL> Seveas: people must be scared of editors or something
[05:41] <bert_db> how can i activate numlock in boottime?
[05:42] <Seveas> gnome-app-install will automagically do it if you select a universe app...
[05:42] <aris[glande] > no it is *not*
[05:42] <Seveas> aris[glande] , yes it is :)
[05:42] <aris[glande] > the procedure to add new sources, even under synaptics, isn't trivial
[05:42] <sklav> Seveas, debian used to have an option like that a while back in the installer
[05:42] <Seveas> aris[glande] , in dapper that'll be somewhat easier: no more sources.lit
[05:42] <aris[glande] > it is not clear that the alredy existing lines are for the cdrom
[05:42] <LjL> aris[glande] : not trivial, but definitely easy... i mean, for adding *universe* is easy, since it's just commented out
[05:42] <aris[glande] > and you should add one
[05:42] <skullb0x> is there any other browser  besides nautilus that will allow me to do smb://ip/ and let me browse my network for shared folders?
[05:42] <LjL> Seveas: uh?!
[05:43] <Seveas> skullb0x, konqueror probably
[05:43] <Seveas> LjL, sources.list.d/
[05:43] <sklav> konqueror can do it
[05:43] <Seveas> so adding things becomes easier, as well as removing
[05:43] <aris[glande] > you should not have to manualy edit a file for a functionnality that 90% end users want
[05:43] <LjL> Seveas: oh my godness, you're scaring me
[05:43] <ecobuntu> anyone know where i can find a good list of radio stations to use rhythmbox with?
[05:43] <LjL> Seveas: i mean, by all means make it easy for people, but please don't make it hard for me =)
[05:44] <rem_> eco -> streamtuner
[05:44] <sklav> LjL, have you ever used yum?
[05:44] <sklav> its the same idea
[05:44] <Seveas> LjL, sources.list will still be used if you create one
[05:44] <rem_> aptitude
[05:44] <Seveas> but the default will be sources.list.d
[05:44] <LjL> sklav: no. actually, yes, once.
[05:44] <Trackilizer> Here i am again... so what should i do?
[05:44] <ecobuntu> streamtuner?  is that another program?  i think rhythmbox is fine
[05:44] <sklav> well it uses the same principal
[05:44] <Seveas> sklav, but worse
[05:44] <Trackilizer> I do i remove grub?
[05:44] <sklav> all you habve to do is example have a file named universe and inside the file the url for apt
[05:45] <sklav> worse?
[05:45] <sklav> hehe
[05:45] <aris[glande] > it would be cool to have a big icon into synaptics "WANT MORE APPLICATIONS?" and it explains the universe thing when you click on
[05:45] <sklav> what is the point then?
[05:45] <Zim_256> david@ubuntu:~$ sudo bash winmac_fstab
[05:45] <Zim_256> Password:
[05:45] <Zim_256> Sorry, try again.
[05:45] <Zim_256> Password:
[05:45] <Zim_256> bash: winmac_fstab: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[05:45] <aris[glande] > and you just click "ok" and have universe added
[05:45] <Zim_256> :(
[05:45] <thrush> ecobuntu: streamtuner uses xmms, much better app for internet radio imho
[05:45] <Trackilizer> I'm in Knoppix now, so what command should i use to remove GRUB?`
[05:45] <sklav> personnaly i would if i could add an option during install where there is a checkbox for universe
[05:45] <ecobuntu> Trackilizer: i'm googling it right now....
[05:45] <priich> LjL, but you can enable them without editors, in systems/administration/add applications  and goto settings/repositories....
[05:45] <Seveas> aris[glande] , ***gnome-app-install does that without button***
[05:46] <thrush> Trackilizer: u want to reinstall grub right?
[05:46] <Seveas> and g-a-i is what most new users will use (it's applications -> add applications)
[05:46] <Trackilizer> reinstall or remove.
[05:46] <Trackilizer> Don't care
[05:46] <thrush> Trackilizer: what partion is your ubuntu on?
[05:46] <ecobuntu> anyone running dapper flight cd #1?
[05:46] <Trackilizer> hd6
[05:46] <ecobuntu> what's the MOTU irc called?
[05:47] <thrush> Trackilizer: ok type sudo grub in terminal
[05:47] <Trackilizer> But GRUB is on the master partition.
[05:47] <Trackilizer> Which is hd1
[05:47] <thrush> Trackilizer: not on mbr?
[05:47] <Trackilizer> Yes! i think it's on mbr.
[05:47] <sklav> hda1 and mbr are differtent
[05:48] <Seveas> mbr is the first few sectors of hda
[05:48] <Seveas> not hda1
[05:48] <LjL> priich: i see, i don't use gnome, so i don't know about that kind of things
[05:48] <ecobuntu> grub is usually on the mb
[05:48] <ecobuntu> r
[05:48] <DrBair> does anyone know if its possible to run 2 xservers at the same time off one video card? I'm using the binary nvidia driver if it makes a diference
[05:49] <Trackilizer> Ok, i really don't want ot sound stupid but i don't know which drive it's on, it's on the drive Ubuntu suggested on boot.
[05:49] <aris[glande] > DrBair, there is a way to do that with nvidia
[05:49] <ecobuntu> Trackilizer: it's on the Master Boot Record
[05:49] <aris[glande] > if you have 2 screens
[05:49] <aris[glande] > but in fact you start X onces
[05:49] <aris[glande] > with 2 "desktops"
[05:49] <aris[glande] > you should read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/*
[05:49] <PDani> hi
[05:50] <Trackilizer> ecobuntu, so how do i remove it?
[05:50] <DrBair> aris[glande] :  I'm trying to get two completely independent X servers going
[05:50] <soundray> DrBair, aris[glande] , you can start multiple X servers on one and the same videocard-monitor combination.
[05:50] <aris[glande] > with same hardware ? same card/screen ?
[05:50] <aris[glande] > woaw
[05:50] <Trackilizer> root# grub
[05:50] <Trackilizer> grub> uninstall
[05:50] <Trackilizer> Will that work?
[05:50] <PDani> are there somewhere ubuntu cd-isos containing the whole repository
[05:50] <ecobuntu> Trackilizer: i think you need to run grub-install
[05:51] <aris[glande] > i don't see where it can be useful but good
[05:51] <PDani> not just the bootable install-cd
[05:51] <ecobuntu> Trackilizer: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2689.html
[05:51] <priich> LjL, i prefer vi or emacs and a console myself but since some people prefer visual aides then i guess it's good it's a good thing taht it is there for them.
[05:51] <soundray> DrBair, go to System Administration Login Screen Setup
[05:52] <DrBair> aris[glande] :  soundray: I'm trying to get both monitors going with 2 keyboards and two mice so I can have two users logged on at the same time
[05:52] <Knight_Lord> Is it possible to have workspace sensitive icons in gnome?
[05:52] <ecobuntu> Trackilizer: i think you just need to run grub-install (hd0)
[05:52] <Knight_Lord> I mean icons that just show up in certain workspaces
[05:52] <aris[glande] > DrBair, ok, that can be done with only 1 x server
[05:52] <aris[glande] > with nvidia thingy
[05:52] <aris[glande] > just configure both screens, keyboard, mice
[05:53] <_jason> is there any way to fix sound not being in sync in flash animations?
[05:53] <aris[glande] > and tell which one goes to which other
[05:53] <DrBair> aris[glande] :  you mean with the twinview?
[05:54] <aris[glande] > hmm i'm not sure
[05:54] <aris[glande] > i think twinview implies xinerama, which is not what you want
[05:54] <aris[glande] > go read the nvidia documentation
[05:54] <fasted> good evening
[05:55] <DrBair> aris[glande] :  I think there might be a way around that actually... thanks for the idea, that may be the ticket
[05:55] <xxenon> does crontab outputs logs ? (what it started, at what time, with commands outputs, etc..)
[05:55] <sklav> evening ? you must be in australia
[05:55] <sklav> hehe
[05:55] <soundray> aris[glande] , with twinview, you have to turn Xinerama off.
[05:55] <Seveas> sklav, it's evening in europe too..
[05:55] <sklav> Hehe
[05:55] <sklav> true
[05:55] <sklav> im greek
[05:55] <Seveas> 3:55 in australia ;)
[05:55] <sklav> and i should know that
[05:55] <aris[glande] >         Option "TwinView"
[05:55] <aris[glande] > I have that in my xorg.conf
[05:55] <aris[glande] > and I'm using xinerama
[05:56] <bert_db> how can i activate numlock in boottime?
[05:56] <soundray> aris[glande] , well, you're lucky then.
[05:56] <aris[glande] > soundray, nope. it's the goodway (tm) to do so
[05:57] <soundray> aris[glande] , okay, I'll keep out of this. Hope you can help DrBaird.
[05:57] <giany911> how can i hv tv time always on top ?
[05:57] <aris[glande] > Appendix P. Configuring Multiple X Screens on One Card
[05:58] <aris[glande] > zcat /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz  | less
[05:58] <soundray> giany911, click the left upper window icon and select "On top"
[05:59] <giany911> soundray ty i knew i saw it somewhere:)
[05:59] <Seveas> aris[glande] , hint: zless
[05:59] <_ParaibA_> ...
[06:00] <sklav> Seveas, is it hard to build a deb package?
[06:00] <aris[glande] > Seveas, thx :) less under gentoo detected itself when I was reading a .gz
[06:00] <Seveas> sklav, not very
[06:00] <sklav> i only have experience with rpm
[06:00] <Seveas> aris[glande] , that is evil :)
[06:00] <Seveas> (although vim does the same)
[06:00] <sklav> im thinking to maybe start doing some package maintenance for ubuntu
[06:02] <rochvellon> hello?
[06:02] <sklav> hi
[06:02] <rochvellon> hi there...
[06:02] <soundray> aris[glande] , man lessfile
[06:03] <rochvellon> I have a doubt... What are the minimum system requirements for (k)Ubuntu?
[06:03] <sklav> good question ... i have not met them yet
[06:03] <aris[glande] > a computer, 1gb hard disk and 16mb ram i'd say
[06:03] <sklav> but give me a sec and i will see if i can get my hand on that info for you
[06:03] <BlueEagle> How do I re-set all the gnome configurations to the defaults?
[06:03] <rochvellon> ok, thanks skalv
[06:03] <BlueEagle> I've messed them up pretty badly :(
[06:04] <thrush> rochvellon: have fun running kde on 16mb ram :)
[06:04] <Agrajag> 16 mb? only if you plan on using no gui at all
[06:04] <BlueEagle> s/badly/bad/
[06:04] <rochvellon> aris[glande] , are you sure that only 16 mb?
[06:04] <Agrajag> I'd say more like 128 if you want to use gnome or KDE
[06:04] <aris[glande] > rochvellon, without gfx obviously
[06:05] <maffju> is it possible to mount iso-images (i used to use daemontools in windows)?
[06:05] <rochvellon> oh, ok...
[06:05] <aris[glande] > maffju, yep, it's easy
[06:05] <giany911> maffju
[06:05] <maffju> how?
[06:05] <rochvellon> yes
[06:05] <afabian_> I noticed that there isn't an MTA running on my system.  On Debian, I'm used to occasionally getting emails from the package tools, at very least.  Ubuntu doesn't do that?
[06:05] <Agrajag> maffju: mount -t iso9660 image.iso /mnt/mountpoint -o loop
[06:05] <aris[glande] > sudo -s mount /path/to/cd.iso /media/cdrom -o loop,ro
[06:05] <aris[glande] > argh
[06:05] <maffju> Agrajag: thanks
[06:05] <aris[glande] > you were faster :(
[06:05] <rochvellon> you can also get the equivalet of daemon tools for linux, forgot the name...
[06:05] <BlueEagle> aris[glande] : You can (in theory) run a server on 16 mb, but that would be limited to an ftp server with 1 login at a time or simple file sharing with samba (or rather nfs if at all possible)
[06:05] <maffju> aris[glande] , thanks
[06:06] <giany911> can any1 help me configure lirc?
[06:06] <rochvellon> ok... thanks!
[06:06] <rendo> I have another question concerning the MUD I'm trying to run.  I get this error with my makefile les.o track.o update.o -lcrypt
[06:06] <rendo> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
[06:06] <rendo> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:06] <rendo> .  It's concerning the zlib files for compression and I don't know where they are to install or whatever, help please?
[06:06] <aris[glande] > BlueEagle, really depends what you do
[06:06] <aris[glande] > rendo, apt-get install zlib-dev (or) libz-dev
[06:06] <wyawc2000> Hello,everyone.
[06:07] <wyawc2000> I first in here....
[06:07] <StR> Hi all
[06:07] <rendo> Package libz-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:07] <rendo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:07] <rendo> is only available from another source
[06:07] <wyawc2000> who will chatting with me.?
[06:07] <StR> I have php4 installed with breezy, how can I install both php4 and php5 to work together in the same machine?  thanks
[06:07] <Agrajag> rendo: zlib then
[06:07] <BlueEagle> Still I need help with resetting the gnome settings. I tried removing the gnome and nautilus directories, but I am still missing the taskbar panel at the bottom :(
[06:08] <Seveas> wyawc2000, this is not a chat channel, this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[06:08] <_jason> is there any way to fix sound not being in sync in flash animations?
[06:08] <rendo> E: Couldn't find package zlib-dev
[06:08] <B_166-ER-X> 3 pc linked to each other by a rj45 ADSL hub,  is there a way to make a network ? i heard about samba ?
[06:08] <Seveas> rendo, zlibqg-dev
[06:08] <Seveas> rendo, zlib1g-dev
[06:08] <rendo> Same thing couldn't find it.
[06:08] <Seveas> _jason, yeah, kick some asses at macromedia
[06:08] <rendo> oh sorrt
[06:08] <wyawc2000> Thank you. I know. Now, i using UBu..
[06:08] <Agrajag> rendo: you can use apt-cache search <package> to find what you need, also
[06:09] <rendo> It didn't find any of them :(
[06:09] <Agrajag> right, but searching for zlib found zlib1g-dev
[06:09] <jouni_> Trying to compile kino 0.8 ./configure goes fine until checking for dirname... no configure: error: You need this function to compile kino
[06:09] <wyawc2000> I don't know how i can install Jdk in Ub..
[06:09] <gimmulf> Hi, isnt there Wine for amd64? :(((
[06:09] <Seveas> !info zlib1g-dev
[06:09] <ubotu> zlib1g-dev: (compression library - development), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 394 kB, Installed size: 576 kB
[06:09] <Agrajag> gimmulf: Doubt it.
[06:10] <robotgeek> jouni_: sudo apt-get build-dep kino
[06:10] <rendo> Hrm.... it won't find it :/
[06:10] <wyawc2000> When i install Jdk1.5, the prompt is: you have jre..
[06:11] <wyawc2000> help me..
[06:11] <Seveas> !info j2sdk-1.4
[06:12] <sklav> wyawc2000, check /usr/lib/jre or /usr/lib/java/jre
[06:12] <rendo> Sorry
[06:12] <rendo> Package zlib1g-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:12] <rendo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:12] <rendo> is only available from another source
[06:12] <wyawc2000> Thank you ,sklav...
[06:16] <wyawc2000> sklav, i find in /usr/lib/jvm ---java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0.     but i want to install JDK1.5, how can i do??
[06:16] <Seveas> !tell wyawc2000 about javadebs
[06:17] <jouni_> robotgeek  brilliant try, but same error again
[06:17] <wyawc2000> sklav, i first use ub, and i don't know what is -gcj??
[06:17] <wyawc2000> avadebs??   what?
[06:17] <robotgeek> jouni_: i have no clue about a dirname (or even what it is, sorry)
[06:18] <Seveas> wyawc2000, ubotu sent you a message
[06:19] <jouni_> dirname comes with core-utils package man dirname. I still can't understand it
[06:19] <wyawc2000> thank  you ...
[06:21] <jouni_> I am using hoary does it matter?
[06:21] <musik> what is this gnubuntu about? plz clarify??
[06:21] <wyawc2000> whether i can add this address in my resource list??  Or, i download my need package?
[06:22] <johnsie2k> how to run a .sh. file?
[06:22] <johnsie2k> !.sh
[06:22] <ubotu> johnsie2k: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:22] <johnsie2k> ! .sh
[06:22] <gimmulf> How do i set the enviorment to compille in 32bit?
[06:22] <ubotu> I don't know, johnsie2k
[06:22] <gimmulf> when running amd64
[06:22] <johnsie2k> !sheel script
[06:22] <ubotu> johnsie2k: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:22] <robotgeek> jouni_: sh script.sh or ./script.sh
[06:22] <Zukero>  i have a question regarding the license on gnome's icon...
[06:22] <trappist> johnsie2k: chmod +x filename.sh then ./filename.sh
[06:22] <Zukero>  i wanted to know if I could use a few icons in a program under BSD license...
[06:22] <robotgeek> johnsie2k: sh script.sh or ./script.sh
[06:22] <johnsie2k> thanksript
[06:23] <robotgeek> jouni_: sorry, tab completiong error
[06:23] <johnsie2k> thantk
[06:23] <wyawc2000> And i also want to know, how to add enverioument to my jdk?? what file?  /etc/profile??
[06:24] <wyawc2000> sklav,..And i also want to know, how to add enverioument to my jdk?? what file?  /etc/profile??
[06:25] <felipe_> wyawc2000, add the repositories here /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <jouni_> robotgeek ./install-sh: no input file specified.
[06:25] <johnsie2k> which opyion? cedega_head_userinstall or cvscedga_head?
[06:25] <trappist> wyawc2000: I do it in my /etc/profile
[06:25] <robotgeek> jouni_: ignore that, it was for someone else
[06:25] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, could you tell me where the java package is for breezy? and the other packeges that seem to be missing in Breezy
[06:26] <trappist> wyawc2000: oops, actually I do it in my ~/.bash_profile
[06:26] <_jason> londonboi2k3, have you enabled the multiverse/universe repos?
[06:26] <londonboi2k3> yes
[06:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell londonboi2k3 about javadebs
[06:26] <robotgeek> anybody know what player to use to play midi files? i',m looking to try some cellphone ringtones :)
[06:26] <_jason> londonboi2k3, what other pacakges are you missing?
[06:26] <johnsie2k> which profile should i download for cedega?
[06:27] <johnsie2k> headuserinstall or head?
[06:27] <londonboi2k3> azureus is missing too :)
[06:27] <wyawc2000> in slackware, i add in /etc/profi, but in ub, i don't know.   I will try.. ..
[06:27] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell londonboi2k3 about azureus
[06:27] <londonboi2k3> robotgeek, thanks
[06:28] <spikebike> ubotu: tell spikebike about azureus
[06:28] <wyawc2000> how to add address in sources.list, :   http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:28] <sbishop_> is there a way to not let updatedb run, ever?
[06:28] <_jason> wyawc2000, you just download the .deb and install it with: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:28] <johnsie2k> ubotu: tell johnsie2k about azureus
[06:29] <etherclear> Okay folks, my ubuntu system suffered power failure, the admin account was running at the time.  Now, subsequent attempts at logging into said account fail. The filesystem *seems* fine, as I can log into all the user accounts and operate normally. I'm not sure what is wrong with X. My ~/.xsession-errors file tells me 'Unable to read ICE authority file: /home/*****/.ICEauthority (this pointing to my admin account). Is there a way to recover the account
[06:29] <etherclear> ? Is X the problem? Any Ideas on what may have happened are welcome as well. Thx
[06:29] <ooPo> delete the .ICEauthority file?
[06:29] <_jason> etherclear, delete/rename the iceauthorite file
[06:29] <etherclear> mmk
[06:30] <wyawc2000> ok , thank you , _jason..    if i want to add it to source.list  , how do?
[06:30] <trappist> sbishop_: comment out /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate
[06:30] <sbishop_> stellar, thanks
[06:30] <johnsie2k> !azureus
[06:30] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:31] <_jason> wyawc2000, not sure
[06:31] <Guvnor> i need a quick help on installing 5.10 on a iMac, one of the all-in-one models, which I think were all G3
[06:32] <wyawc2000> ok.  ...
[06:32] <londonboi2k3> me again :) The flashplayer-mozilla plugin is also not in the repos :(
[06:33] <deFrysk> !tell londonboi2k3 about flash
[06:33] <londonboi2k3>  ubotu: tell londonboi2k3 about flashplayer-mozilla
[06:33] <_jason> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[06:33] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[06:33] <wyawc2000> in my system have "java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0" , i also can install sun java?
[06:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell wyawc2000 about multijava
[06:33] <Trackilizer> Just wanted to say i solved the Grub problem, thanks for all the help guys.
[06:33] <Trackilizer> See ya.
[06:33] <deFrysk> !tell wyawc2000 about multijava
[06:34] <trappist> wyawc2000: yes
[06:34] <sklav> !tell sklav about sklav
[06:34] <deFrysk> shit I am getting rusty :s
[06:34] <sklav> hehe
[06:35] <londonboi2k3>  ubotu: tell londonboi2k3 about gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:36] <wyawc2000> I know, thank you everyone.
[06:36] <_jason> londonboi2k3, are you having trouble finding these files?
[06:37] <londonboi2k3> _jason, yeah I was trying to be cleaver and using the bot ;)
[06:37] <_jason> londonboi2k3, once you are registered you can just pm the bot and use the syntax: info packagename.  But these things should be available to you if you have enabled multiverse.  Are you using synaptic or apt?
[06:38] <etherclear> okay rming the .iceauthority didnt do it, I still can't log into the account
[06:38] <londonboi2k3> _jason, I have enabled them and im using apt, I uncommented the lines in the sources.list file
[06:38] <_jason> etherclear, still says not enough permissions?  what are the permissions on the file that is there and who is the woner?
[06:38] <_jason> owner*
[06:39] <_jason> londonboi2k3, did your do: sudo apt-get update?
[06:39] <londonboi2k3> _jason, yep :)
[06:39] <vbgunz> anyone know how to make first connections to a Windows share lightning fast? It currently takes me about 30 seconds to connect to a Windows share. After connecting the connection will sort of stay open for about another 2 minutes meaning I can close ou the share and access it lightning fast in under about 2 minutes. After that time elapses though it takes another 30 seconds to access it again :(
[06:39] <etherclear> _jason Its not a permissions problem, it says 'unable to read'
[06:40] <ubuntu> HI @ ALL
[06:40] <cazy> Hullo peeps
[06:40] <londonboi2k3> _jason, basiccly I am following the instructions on ubuntuguide, for the old 5.04, im using 5.10 with breezy repos
[06:40] <_jason> londonboi2k3, would you mind pastebinning your sources.list?
[06:40] <etherclear> _jason the account has access I believe, re-checking
[06:40] <londonboi2k3> _jason, sure
[06:40] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[06:40] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[06:40] <aedes> how do I have ubuntu default try to login to an sm share as the current user/pass? or can I put the default in a config somewhere?
[06:41] <_jason> etherclear, someone was having a similar problem a few days ago and it turned out that file was owned by root but it should be owned by the user
[06:41] <etherclear> _jason okay, looking into it :)
[06:41] <cazy> random question: anyone ever had Kerberos auth working, Im getting issues with encryption types and adding the odd omain user to the sudoers list
[06:41] <londonboi2k3> _jason, paste bin address http://pastebin.com/441140
[06:42] <wyawc2000> just now, i update eclipse, but the system prompt : out of memory.    i have 2G memory..    and / have 9g,  /home 8g.   Why?
[06:42] <johnsie2k> !cedega
[06:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[06:43] <etherclear> _jason you are right root has control of it, ty
[06:43] <trappist> aedes: use the option credentials=filename - for the format, man smbmount
[06:43] <_jason> londonboi2k3, you don't have mutliverse enabled
[06:43] <londonboi2k3> _jason, oh /slaps myself
[06:43] <_jason> londonboi2k3, notice how your lines with mutliverse say "breezy-backports" instead of "breezy"
[06:43] <aris[glande] > hey
[06:43] <NewUbuntu> I'm having a small problem.  zlib.a isn't located in /usr/bin how do I get it there?
[06:43] <aris[glande] > what's the name of the app that generates /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:43] <londonboi2k3> _jason, so they need to say just breezy
[06:44] <_jason> londonboi2k3, on lines 29 and 30 change "breezy-backports" to "breezy"
[06:44] <cazy> sheesh; that was one BREEZY badger, got to remember prawns don't agree with my bowls :-P
[06:45] <_jason> londonboi2k3, then you are going to have some repetition in there
[06:45] <_jason> londonboi2k3, you may want to use source-o-matic to create a new one if you aren't comfortable cleaning it up
[06:45] <_jason> ubotu, tell londonboi2k3 about easysource
[06:45] <londonboi2k3> _jason, its cool I cant clean it, is it lines 38 39 that need to go?
[06:46] <londonboi2k3> _jason, can clean it i mean :)
[06:46] <aedes> trappist, smbmount doesn't even seem to be installed
[06:46] <trappist> aedes: you are talking abount samba shares, right?
[06:46] <aedes> yes
[06:47] <trappist> sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:47] <aedes> and really its more general, in that I want automatic smb authentication (not just for shares)
[06:47] <_jason> londonboi2k3, okay easiest way may be for you to jsut add "multiverse" to lines 19 and 20.  Then leave 29 and 30 for backports.  I believe lines 38 and 39 can be disabled.
[06:47] <aedes> trappist, I'm sure I don't need that since I can view them through the browser already, but I have to enter a pass
[06:48] <trappist> aedes: ah, I'm not sure I know enough about samba to help you there, but you'll probably need to set up a samba domain controller to authenticate against.
[06:49] <londonboi2k3> _jason, thanks, have now cleaned it
[06:49] <_jason> londonboi2k3, k, make sure it works then I'm off to lunch
[06:49] <aedes> trappist, that might be one way of going about it, but another would be for ubuntu to automatically try to auth with the current user/pass
[06:49] <aedes> or a specified one
[06:49] <NewUbuntu> I'm having a small problem.  zlib.a isn't located in /usr/bin how do I get it there??
[06:49] <londonboi2k3> _jason, yep its all working now, thanks for you help and have a good lunch ;)
[06:50] <_jason> londonboi2k3, yw and thanks
[06:50] <afabian> NewUbuntu, zlib.a looks like a static version of the zlib library.  It .. wouldn't go in /usr/bin for any good reason.  man 7 hier
[06:51] <DuDE27> hi, are there any drivers for the brother mfc 860?
[06:52] <NewUbuntu> Well what can I do about it then?  My Makefile keeps saying -lz is missing.
[06:52] <wyawc2000> in my gaim, it isn't QQ, but i want to add it in Gaim , how do????
[06:52] <NewUbuntu> And if I remove -lz from my Makefile, it gives me missing deflate for compression
[06:52] <NoUse> NewUbuntu what are you trying to compile?
[06:52] <ardchoille> WTF?  --> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z46s6E19.html
[06:52] <NewUbuntu> A MUD.
[06:53] <NoUse> NewUbuntu are they no suitable ones in synaptic?
[06:53] <NewUbuntu> Not that I can see.
[06:53] <NoUse> NewUbuntu which one are you compiling?
[06:53] <Zukero> ardchoille : i guess root can do ANYTHING
[06:54] <NewUbuntu> It's smaug based.
[06:54] <ardchoille> Zukero: I noticed on Fedora that root cannot alter a read only file
[06:54] <NoUse> NewUbuntu there are a few different muds in synaptic, if you are new to ubuntu you probably shouldn't be compiling stuff
[06:54] <boa-chan> getting an error
[06:54] <boa-chan> on this
[06:54] <boa-chan> http://pastebin.com/441158
[06:55] <NewUbuntu> It compiled fine on windows with cygwin and not it won't on Linux :/
[06:55] <NoUse> NewUbuntu you probably need dev zlib packages
[06:56] <boa-chan> anywho
[06:56] <boa-chan> if someone could look at that error fo rme
[06:56] <bamboo> Hi, I'm installing svn on a fresh ubuntu system but I can't seem to find libapache2-svn
[06:56] <boa-chan> thanks
[06:56] <NewUbuntu> I tried getting those zlib1g-dev right? It said it's in some other package or something.
[06:56] <tanja> !w32codecs
[06:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:56] <NoUse> !info zlib1g-dev
[06:56] <ubotu> zlib1g-dev: (compression library - development), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 394 kB, Installed size: 576 kB
[06:57] <NoUse> NewUbuntu try again and pastebin the specifc error message
[06:57] <tanja> For what is used libdvdcss ?
[06:57] <NoUse> tanja decrypting DVDs for viewing
[06:57] <NewUbuntu> pastebin?
[06:57] <NewUbuntu> what's that?
[06:57] <NoUse> !tell NewUbuntu about pastebin
[06:58] <boa-chan> everyone on linux should have heard of pastebin
[06:58] <NewUbuntu> I did it I think.
[06:59] <afabian> NewUbuntu, there's a howto on compiling software.  The -lz in the makefile, I *believe* tells the linker to look for libz.a in the library include paths.  It can get messy, sometimes, finessing include paths for libraries and headers, and adapting for library naming differences and such.
[07:00] <boa-chan> anyone able to help me ?
[07:00] <NewUbuntu> I know afabian, that's what I mean, it's not located where it needs to be so it won't compile properly.
[07:00] <wyawc2000> how to change rpm to .deb package???
[07:00] <afabian> The older the code is, the worse it is.
[07:00] <NoUse> NewUbuntu your sources.list is messed up, get the sources file ubotu is about to send you
[07:01] <chrissturm> how do i reconfigure grub after moving the /boot/ directory to another partition? i already purged and reinstalled it, but i still get a grub> prompt at startup, instead of a list of kernels. is this documented somewhere?
[07:02] <afabian> NewUbuntu, man ld will tell you how to mess with the include path.  (-I to the compiler, I think, gets passed on to the linker.)  Get the package with the library, look at the actual name of the library in /usr/lib, try adapting the -l accordingly.  There's something weird about zlib, I usually have to mess with that one a little when I compile stuff.  It's been a while.
[07:02] <cocox> hi there, im trying to start a service but my shell tells me "command not found" any suggest ?
[07:02] <manveru> hey guys, someone knows what happened with alsaconf in ubuntu?
[07:02] <NoUse> NewUbuntu just fix your sources.list and install zlib1g-dev and you should be fine
[07:02] <afabian> cocox, use the /etc/init.d/script interface.
[07:02] <afabian> /etc/init.d/service start
[07:02] <NewUbuntu> How do I fix my sources? :/
[07:02] <Oetzi> cocox: try to find command manual
[07:02] <NewUbuntu> I'm so dumb :(
[07:02] <tidi> need to open a busness card done in a draw program
[07:02] <mamoru> hi! what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met"
[07:03] <NoUse> NewUbuntu I told you, get the ones ubotu sent you
[07:03] <Oetzi> and look whether the path is in your searchpath
[07:03] <NoUse> NewUbuntu copy the one ubotu links to over your current /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:03] <ubuntu> what are ubuntu's system requirments?
[07:04] <NoUse> ubuntu there aren't any official ones I don't think, what is your machine?
[07:05] <Guile> hi all, installed ubuntu on a machine with no internet connection, and it doesn't let me run any command using sudo, complaining about a unable to lookup my machinename: getbyhostname(). any ideas?
[07:05] <ubuntu> thing is, i'm runing it un a 2.6GhzP4 and its perfect but i need to install it un a 333Mhz PCeleron with 128Mb ram
[07:05] <cocox> afabian, Oetzi ubuntu have any command similar to service ?
[07:05] <mamoru> ubuntu, http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02.html
[07:05] <pravnaplavusa89> who is a from SERBIA???
[07:05] <bamboo> any ideas on how I get dav_svn installed on breezy?
[07:06] <cocox> afabian, i dont have any "script interface" at my /etc/init.d directory ...
[07:06] <pravnaplavusa89> ima li hrvataaaaaaa
[07:06] <pravnaplavusa89> ?
[07:06] <pravnaplavusa89> srba
[07:06] <pravnaplavusa89> slovenaca?
[07:06] <soundray> ubuntu, I was running Ubuntu on a Celeron 300 with 192 MB RAM. With Xubuntu, it worked reasonably well, but I turned it into a thin client since.
[07:06] <pravnaplavusa89> :)
[07:07] <Mitja> pravnaplavusa89: slovenaca
[07:07] <ubuntu> what do you mean with a "thin client"
[07:07] <thrush> Guile: hostname command responds with computer name right?
[07:07] <afabian> cocox, cron is a daemon, there's an /etc/init.d/cron .. which you can use like /etc/init.d/cron restart.  I assume you mean "service" in a RedHat or Windows-eqsue sense, which UNIX is more likely to call a daemon.  There should be a script in /etc/init.d if it starts at boot.
[07:07] <NoUse> ubuntu you might look into xubuntu, its based on xfce which is lighter than gnome, if you search wiki.ubuntu.com you'll find some info
[07:07] <Guile> thrush: yes
[07:07] <cocox> afabian, Oetzi sorry the real question is .. im trying to use the "SERVICE" command but it seems not to be here in ubuntu
[07:07] <soundray> ubuntu, all the applications run on a beefier terminal server. The Celeron machine just displays the X Window output.
[07:08] <ubuntu> ok
[07:08] <intelikey> any idea why x would only start for root ?
[07:08] <ubuntu> im lookin at the xubuntu  wiki
[07:08] <soundray> ubuntu, probably a good place to start.
[07:08] <Oetzi> cocox: oh i see
[07:08] <afabian> cocox, never heard of it.
[07:09] <Guile> trying to look for info on the wiki but I'm on a 56k connection :(
[07:09] <intelikey> i get this fatal error; xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root
[07:09] <Oetzi> cocox: you are right there is no service command like fedora has
[07:10] <cocox> Oetzi, yeah man i dont know maybe ubuntu have a similar command
[07:10] <chrissturm> how do i reconfigure grub after moving the /boot/ directory to another partition? i already purged and reinstalled it, but i still get a grub> prompt at startup, instead of a list of kernels. is this documented somewhere?
[07:10] <intelikey> cocox what did SERVICE do in fc# ?
[07:10] <afabian> Ubuntu uses SysV style runlevels, like most major Linux distributions (including Fedora), update-rc.d is a command-line management tool, used in conjunction with looking at the scripts in /etc/rc?.d
[07:11] <pravnaplavusa89> ima neko da se razumemo na srpski???
[07:11] <aj_> ok i messed up my ubuntu installation
[07:11] <boa-chan> good job
[07:11] <afabian> I don't really like SysV-style init scripts, but... well, I'm not going to run Slackware, or write my own, so that ends that.
[07:11] <aj_> i tried to install cairo from cvs and now everything gtk is broken is there a way to just re-install all breezy packages?
[07:11] <mist> hello i request backup! ive rebooted my system and now i cant login anymore.. i just can start the console and start some applications .. like xchat and synaptics.. i paste the consoleoutput in the next seconds plz standby.
[07:11] <cocox> intelikey, you mean fc# ( fedora core x ) ?? well if yes.. this command is used for stop or start a service
[07:12] <thrush> Guile: if u cat /etc/hosts is your hostname presetn on same line as 127.0.0.1?
[07:12] <Mabus06> when somoene downloads a file from you via a p2p program is there a way to detect their ip address?
[07:12] <tanja> Mabus06, yes
[07:12] <cedric> hi! i was woundering how can i receive my hotmail email, into evolution
[07:12] <Oetzi> intelikey: it's somehow like a daemon managment
[07:12] <aedes> tanja, not necessarily
[07:12] <djm62> My laptop had a slight regression under breezy: the default for acpi sleep changed to none, it works perfectly with /etc/defaults/acpi changed.  How and to whom should I report it?
[07:12] <mist> have to close the xchat because i just have one console brb!
[07:12] <aj_> is there a channel for dapper?
[07:12] <aedes> well it depends if Mabus06 means the ultimate recipient or not
[07:12] <intelikey> cocox yes ub has a command for that.
[07:13] <tanja> aedes, you can always detect ip when some file sending you or reciving
[07:13] <infamus> anyone here use GTK+ for their desktop themes?
[07:13] <cocox> intelikey, can u plz tell me what is it ?
[07:13] <Oetzi> and it do the same as /etc/init.d/DAEMONNAME start/stop...
[07:13] <Mabus06> tanja, how
[07:13] <Guile> thrush: IIRC, cat returns 127.0.0.1 localhost
[07:13] <intelikey> cocox no cause i don't recall it,  but i have seen it.
[07:13] <koool> what can be used to copy DVDs, also with CSS? Thanks
[07:14] <Guile> thrush: installed as dual boot, I'm on windows now :|
[07:14] <aedes> tanja, not with some ip trickery (but it would require quite a bit of control of the network)
[07:14] <mamoru> hi! what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met". Are there any packages i must install?
[07:14] <aj_> does anyone know how to use apt to do a dist-downgrade kinda thing i want to downgrade to breeezy i tried to use dapper and things are even worse
[07:14] <aedes> Mabus06, try;  netstat -tp
[07:14] <thrush> Guile: not sure how u will edit that withou sudo but it needs to read like:127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost    hostname
[07:14] <arpan> hi, i have a hp deskjet 656C and am on breezy.
[07:14] <boa-chan> isnt breezy newer than dapper
[07:14] <aj_> no
[07:14] <intelikey> aj_ down grade?
[07:14] <boa-chan> you sure
[07:14] <aj_> dapper is 6.0.4
[07:14] <Oetzi> downgrade to breezy???
[07:14] <boa-chan> is that beta
[07:14] <thrush> Guile: try livecd and mount ubuntu partiion to edit
[07:14] <trappist> cocox: there's no 'service' command - you just /etc/init.d/servicename action
[07:14] <mamoru> boa-chan, dapper is not out yet
[07:15] <boa-chan> oh
[07:15] <arpan> i need to print something urgently but am unable to do so
[07:15] <boa-chan> :)
[07:15] <mamoru> officialy
[07:15] <afabian> aj_, you have to restore your last backup.
[07:15] <arpan> can anyone help?
[07:15] <pravnaplavusa89> svi se tornjajte osim SRBA I HRVATA I SLOVENACA:P
[07:15] <aj_> lol i didn't know i was backing anything up
[07:15] <boa-chan> english please
[07:15] <arpan> when i ask my printer to print a test page even that dont work!!!
[07:15] <intelikey> trappist there is a command tho.....  wish i remembered the name.....
[07:15] <sobersabre> hi. which kernel image should I boot with for IntelD CPU ?
[07:15] <sobersabre> D=dual
[07:15] <infamus> !tell infamus about GTK+
[07:15] <afabian> aj_, if you didn't do it manually, you don't have a backup.  It was kind of a joke.  Downgrading isn't supported.
[07:15] <Guile> thrush: will try windows software to read the ext3 partition
[07:16] <HappyFool> intelikey: invoke-rc.d ?
[07:16] <ompaul> arpan, have you set up the printer?
[07:16] <arpan> i think so
[07:16] <intelikey> yeah invoke
[07:16] <infamus> !tell infamus about GTK
[07:16] <intelikey> hehhe
[07:16] <aj_> oh so i'm screwed?
[07:16] <aj_> basically i can't start gdm
[07:16] <mamoru> !tell mamoru about GTK+
[07:16] <arpan> i went thru the new printer sh*t
[07:16] <aj_> can't install kdm
[07:16] <aj_> gdm broke in breezy hoping dapper would at least let me login
[07:16] <mamoru> !tell mamoru about GTK
[07:16] <infamus> anyone here use gtk for thier themes?
[07:16] <mamoru> !tell mamoru about gdk
[07:16] <cocox> Oetzi, trappist, intelikey, afabian, thnx u guys i got it... for start a service in ubuntu i should do for example if my service is "squid" i should do "sudo squid start" thnx u all!!
[07:16] <intelikey> cocox man invoke-rc
[07:17] <ompaul> arpan, less langu*ge, more work, start here ->  system -> administration -> printing
[07:17] <mamoru> hi! what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met". Are there any packages i must install?
[07:17] <St-> lilo, ;)
[07:17] <trappist> cocox: that's not analogous to service
[07:17] <afabian> aj_, I'm not too sure.  I used Debian for a while, then Ubuntu.  I think the package tools expect increasing version numbers and don't go back.  You could try changing your sources list back and doing a dist-upgrade or something.. but... I'm not even sure it would downgrade any packages.
[07:17] <trappist> cocox: if the 'squid' executable takes 'start' as an option, that's fine
[07:17] <Mabus06> aedes, is it the foreign address column?
[07:18] <aj_> yeah someone mentioned about putting some stuff in /etc/apt/preferences
[07:18] <arpan> ompaul, shud i go thru adding a new printer afresh???
[07:18] <sobersabre> ] 
[07:18] <aj_> i just don't get it
[07:18] <ompaul> arpan, well tell me what is in there for a start
[07:18] <aj_> gdm comes up but the cursor just keeps spinning
[07:18] <ompaul> arpan, does that show a printer?
[07:18] <afabian> aj_, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html  it looks like you could pin packages or something.  the results would likely be unpredictable, because..well, downgrading isn't supported. =)
[07:18] <aj_> and i don't have any errors in /var/log
[07:18] <sobersabre> has anybody answered my q. about the CPU and image ?
[07:18] <arpan> no, i had created it a while ago
[07:19] <aj_> is there a way to re-install breezy without formatting?
[07:19] <ompaul> arpan, then you don't have a printer, so click on new printer
[07:19] <cocox> intelikey, there is not any command called "invoke-rc"
[07:19] <ompaul> arpan, is it a usb printer?
[07:19] <arpan> ya
[07:19] <intelikey> anyone got a clue why i get this fatal error; xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root       when startx by user ?
[07:19] <afabian> aj_, yeah.  could leave extra junk on your system, but you have the option of not formatting partitions during the install.
[07:19] <aedes> Mabus06, yes
[07:19] <intelikey> cocox add .d
[07:19] <arpan> but how should i know what number the usb is?
[07:19] <xadux> hello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this happend?
[07:19] <intelikey> cocox man invoke-rc.d
[07:19] <ompaul> arpan,  okay, have you started that tool and chosen the add click on the add a printer?
[07:19] <Mabus06> aedes, the value isn't in a clear form to me, is it in hexidecimal or something?
[07:20] <aj_> ok i think thats my only option unless i start compiling everything from source which could get messy with apt and everything
[07:20] <arpan> yes ompaul
[07:20] <ompaul> arpan, does it detect a printer?
[07:20] <cocox> intelikey ok now i got it thnx u !!!
[07:20] <arpan> u mean under 'use detected a printer'?
[07:20] <ompaul> arpan, yes and also is the printer local?
[07:20] <arpan> no, ompaul it dont
[07:21] <cdubya> is there anyway to setup an unsupported inkjet as a printer for Breezy that is setup via CUPS on an OS X box?
[07:21] <arpan> ya, i have only 1 machine at home
[07:21] <ompaul> arpan, so is the local button or network button pressed?
[07:21] <intelikey> cocox there is another command for adding/removing services methinks
[07:21] <ompaul> arpan, it should be local
[07:21] <arpan> local
[07:21] <aedes> is there a way to find out what files a package installed?
[07:21] <xadux> hello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this happend?
[07:21] <sobersabre> guys is there a pentium D supporting kernel image for ubuntu ? ( 64 bit )
[07:21] <sobersabre> ?
[07:21] <cocox> intelikey really ? what is it ?
[07:21] <trappist> cocox: try this: alias service="invoke-rc.d"
[07:21] <intelikey> you would ask....
[07:21] <arpan> what should i choose under 'use another print by specific port?
[07:21] <sobersabre> I can see only 1 CPU. this should be 2 I think
[07:22] <arpan> ompaul, what should i choose under 'use another print by specific port?
[07:22] <ompaul> arpan, we have to do something so can you do forward ? ;-0-
[07:22] <ompaul> arpan, we have to do something so can you do forward ? ;-)
[07:22] <pravnaplavusa89> CKAPIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[07:22] <M`u`t`e> HEY ALL
[07:22] <trappist> aedes: dpkg -L packagename
[07:22] <arpan> but ompaul it was working earlier! that is the last time i had installed it
[07:22] <M`u`t`e> i tried to play amp3 it said it needs a plugin , where can i get packages ?
[07:23] <xadux> hello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this happend?
[07:23] <intelikey> cocox maybe update-rc.d
[07:23] <trappist> !tell M`u`t`e about mp3
[07:23] <ompaul> arpan, if it did not show in that previous box then it is not available, and you would not be here
[07:23] <M`u`t`e> thanx , is there any universal package with all ubuntu packages etc ?
[07:24] <cocox> trappist, intelikey ok guys thnx u for your time! i will check this others commands man :)
[07:24] <concept10> Anyone have success with Opera on breezy?  My install will looks for plugins every start.
[07:24] <viller> hi
[07:24] <ecobuntu> wow dapper is crazy right now
[07:24] <viller> could someone give me an example of the chmod command, i can't use it myself :S im so bad
[07:24] <ecobuntu> my firefox is called Deer Park...lol
[07:25] <boa-chan> lol
[07:25] <ompaul> ecobuntu, is the name for a devel version of ff
[07:25] <thrush> viller: chmod 777 -fr / :)
[07:25] <trappist> thrush: don't do that
[07:25] <thierry> ecobuntu : crazy how? dapper is in devlopement right now... it's normal that strange thing happens...
[07:25] <viller> thrush: whats fr?
[07:25] <trappist> viller: don't do it.
[07:25] <thrush> viller: syntax was wrong anyway
[07:25] <ompaul> viller, no do not do that
[07:25] <thrush> dont do that I was just kidding
[07:25] <trappist> thrush: not funny.
[07:25] <viller> ompaul; trappist; thrush: -r is right?
[07:25] <trappist> no, -R
[07:26] <arpan> ompaul, if i ignore the options there and go to the next stage (by hitting forward),  and i choose hp then deskjet 656C, it pops up a driver
[07:26] <xadux>  hello, I have a problem, when I add an user in the sysrem, some
[07:26] <xadux>                days later the account erase de passwd what can I do, why this
[07:26] <xadux>                happend?
[07:26] <viller> it was funny
[07:26] <aj_> yeah dapper isn't even ready for beta testing really i just installed it to see if i could fix something i apparently broke
[07:26] <arpan> should that help us?
[07:26] <viller> if you're he admin of this place you prolly see my ip and then h4x0r to my comp right :)
[07:26] <ecobuntu> thierry: i know...i guess i mean fun...cause i like it when things don't work automatically and i get to play to get things to work :)
[07:26] <cdubya> M`u`t`e, you mean for the mp3 support? I got it by doing something like this: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[07:26] <ecobuntu> ompaul: i see...that's a fun name for it
[07:27] <thierry> ecobuntu : don't forget to submit patch of your work...
[07:27] <M`u`t`e> thanx , do i need to download it , or is it already available in ubuntu ?
[07:27] <intelikey> viller (n=viller@84-50-165-205-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee  <--- that ip ?
[07:27] <ompaul> ecobuntu, talk to mozzilla :)
[07:27] <xadux> can anybody help me?
[07:27] <thierry> ecobuntu : if you fix broken stuff this can help developper (if your not already one)
[07:27] <ompaul> arpan, so choose that
[07:28] <ecobuntu> thierry: it's not really broken...i.e. upgrading to 2.6.15 i need to run sudo modprobe orinoco_cs to get my wireless to work etc.
[07:28] <ompaul> mozzerilla hmmm
[07:28] <thierry> xadux : don't know... maybe you have some bad option turned on when adding the new user
[07:28] <ecobuntu> though gdebi is broken
[07:28] <wyawc2000> I have download sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.  And the next how do...
[07:28] <mist> can someone help me.. when i try to login or when i try to make "startx" it says its already running on display 0 .. what can i do.. consoleoutput says i should remove /tmp/.X0-lock when i do "rm -r /tmp/.X0-lock" and try it again to login it does not work again.. :(
[07:28] <viller> intelikey: :D
[07:29] <SEXYGIRL> HI
[07:29] <xadux> thierry: for example, what option do you thing could be wrong?
[07:29] <thierry> ecobuntu : k... but check for a ubuntu bug about that... just telling it in bugzilla could help fixing it and making other people wireless like yours work like magic
[07:29] <SEXYGIRL> :))
[07:29] <thierry> xadux : don't know
[07:29] <mist> iam using ubuntu breezy badger
[07:29] <viller> i did some chmoding and now i can't see panels in metacity XDXD
[07:29] <aj_> hi pravna
[07:29] <xadux> ok man, thanks
[07:29] <SEXYGIRL> HI
[07:29] <SEXYGIRL> AJ
[07:29] <aj_> lol
[07:29] <ubuntu> brasnet.org
[07:29] <viller> i can see windows but not panels
[07:29] <ubuntu> :S
[07:29] <wyawc2000> This is my first use ub. so i ask a basic question..  how install sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.
[07:29] <aj_> lay off the caps
[07:29] <ompaul> ecobuntu, talking about dapper would be better in #ubuntu-offtopic as this is a support channel for released stuff - supporting dapper and making people even think about dapper at this time is not appropriate unless they are developers and can understand the risk
[07:29] <Smof> hey all. I use Arson to rip/burn CDs, but right now I can only rip songs into .wav format, it says it can't do .mp3 cos I don't have an encoder. Tried to find something in the package manager but I don't really know what I'm looking for. any suggestions?
[07:30] <mamoru> !tell mamoru about anjuta
[07:30] <ecobuntu> ompaul: ok i'll stop :)
[07:30] <Mabus06> aedes, sorry what did you say? i dced
[07:30] <ompaul> ecobuntu, thanks :)
[07:30] <ecobuntu> np
[07:30] <wyawc2000> only tell me the common, and how to set his environment...
[07:30] <ecobuntu> i understand ;)
[07:30] <_jason> mamoru, what's your question about anjuta?
[07:30] <mamoru> what is the "gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0"? When I try to create a new GTK 2.0 project in Anjuta, it says that "configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0) were not met". Are there any packages i must install?
[07:31] <SEXYGIRL> AJ -PVT:))
[07:31] <intelikey> anyone got a clue why i get this fatal error;' xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root '  on ub 5.4  when i startx as user ?
[07:31] <djm62> mamoru: you need the gtk -dev packages
[07:32] <djm62> mamoru: I'd recommend apt-get build-dep gaim (or some other gtk prog)
[07:32] <intelikey> can anyone help me trubble shoot this ?
[07:32] <djm62> intelikey: have you chmod-ed the x binary?
[07:32] <intelikey> this is a fresh install
[07:32] <ecobuntu> intelikey: maybe you need to reconfigure x?
[07:32] <soundray> intelikey, it looks like your X installation hasn't completed.
[07:33] <mamoru> djm build-dep gaim?
[07:33] <intelikey> x runs for root just fine tho
[07:33] <mamoru> djm62, build-dep gaim?
[07:33] <soundray> intelikey, first do a dpkg --pending --configure for sanity.
[07:33] <wyawc2000> I have download sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.  And the next how do... how to set environment??
[07:33] <djm62> mamoru: installs the packages you need to compile gaim (and hence, probably whatever project you want to do)
[07:33] <intelikey> done
[07:33] <intelikey> no error
[07:33] <mamoru> djm62, thx, gonna try
[07:33] <intelikey> soundray  ^
[07:34] <djm62> intelikey: how come you have root on a fresh install?
[07:34] <Siph0n> hey, im havin some trouble trying to find a string from a file in a directory... ne ideas?
[07:34] <wyawc2000> Why no there is no person tell me.....??
[07:34] <wyawc2000> I have download sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb.  And the next how do... how to set environment??
[07:34] <intelikey> cause i wanted to set the root password djm62,  so i did
[07:35] <Seveas> wyawc2000, sudo dpkg -i sun*.deb
[07:35] <Seveas> and done :)
[07:35] <djm62> ah, ok, I thought the install was broke
[07:35] <cdubya> what's the name of the kde print manager package?
[07:35] <intelikey> djm62 i don't think so.
[07:35] <wyawc2000> Thank you.. and how to set environment?
[07:35] <SnakeChomp> I just did an install of 5.10, but it never asked me for the root password, and I have no clue what it is. how can I remedy this situation
[07:35] <mamoru> djm62, oh yes, it told me that i must download 14.1 MB of archives :O
[07:35] <intelikey> but x wont run for users  only root
[07:36] <soundray> intelikey,  ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/X should show -rwsr-sr-x as permissions. Does it?
[07:36] <djm62> mamoru: only the once ;)
[07:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell SnakeChomp about root
[07:36] <intelikey> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root root 7664 2005-04-05 11:06 /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[07:36] <mamoru> ubotu, what is dapper?
[07:36] <ubotu> mamoru: what are you talking about?
[07:37] <NoUse> mamoru ubotu is a bot
[07:37] <NoUse> !dapper
[07:37] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[07:37] <Seveas> !drake
[07:37] <ubotu> methinks drake is a dragon
[07:37] <|Wanted|> Ciao a tutti
[07:37] <mamoru> thx, got it
[07:37] <|Wanted|> hello all
[07:37] <Seveas> |Wanted|, stick to english in here
[07:38] <Mabus06> aedes, sorry what did you say? i dced
[07:38] <Dasnipa> !badger
[07:38] <ubotu> badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom! mushroom! http://www.badgerx3.com
[07:38] <intelikey> soundray anything else ?
[07:38] <soundray> intelikey, thinking...
[07:38] <Siph0n> so ne ideas how to search a directory for a string in a file?
[07:38] <zAo^> how can I see the URL of a pkg using apt?
[07:38] <intelikey> x will run without sudo wont it ?
[07:39] <|Wanted|> excuse me Seveas
[07:39] <zAo^> yes infamus
[07:39] <soundray> intelikey, it should normally.
[07:39] <mamoru> intelikey, it should
[07:39] <Seveas> zAo^, apt-cache policy $package
[07:39] <zAo^> thnx Seveas
[07:39] <soundray> intelikey, did you do a server install?
[07:39] <djm62> intelikey: did any error messages come up during the install?
[07:39] <Seveas> Siph0n, grep 'string' /path/to/dir/*
[07:39] <aj_> does anyone here know how to fix a gdm issue where it the screen flashes and the cursor just spins
[07:39] <zAo^> Seveas, and full URL? :$
[07:40] <Siph0n> thanx
[07:40] <Seveas> zAo^, eh right
[07:40] <aj_> if i try to do startx it will just show the gnome screen but nothing happens really and closes out of X
[07:40] <intelikey> soundray yeah had too.  space is limited.  but on reboot when it configured everything i apt-got gnome and x
[07:40] <Seveas> apt-cache show | grep ^File
[07:40] <djm62> aj_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would be a good first try
[07:40] <soundray> intelikey, did you apt-get install x-window-system-core ?
[07:40] <Seveas> but you need to combine these 2 :)
[07:41] <Mitja> Does anyone know if there's a log of apt activities?
[07:41] <Seveas> Mitja, there isn't - unless you used aptitude
[07:41] <Mitja> I uninstalled too much and now I have no desktop.
[07:41] <intelikey> djm62 no errors but this xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root error.
[07:41] <djm62> intelikey: nothing during install?
[07:41] <Mitja> Seveas: yes, Adept
[07:41] <Echelon-H> #xchat
[07:41] <christian_> hello there
[07:41] <intelikey> soundray it isn't missing files.  gnome runs for root.
[07:41] <cocox> anyboidy knows if is necesary to use SAMBA for share an internet connection between a linux (squid proxy server) and a windows (client) ??????
[07:42] <Seveas> cocox, samba and connection sharing are totally unrelated
[07:42] <Mitja> Seveas: I used gui - adept, does that keep a log?
[07:42] <intelikey> soundray or maybe i should just say   'yes'
[07:42] <Seveas> Mitja, no idea, I don't use adept
[07:43] <djm62> Mitja: you could install ubuntu-desktop
[07:43] <djm62> Mitja: that depends on everything you need for a desktop
[07:43] <Mitja> djm62: thanks
[07:43] <wyawc2000> i have been install sun*.deb,  but when i compile it can through, but exe couldn't..
[07:43] <cocox> Seveas, really ? so how can me windows pc (192.168.1.3) view my proxy server(192.168.1.2) in my own network ?
[07:43] <Mitja> I would like to know where install log is anyway.
[07:43] <djm62> Mitja: or pick whatever X app you like and install that, and all the dependencies to make it run will be pulled in
[07:43] <ecobuntu> !tell wyawc2000 about javadebs
[07:43] <wyawc2000> it prompt  java commond couldn't find..
[07:44] <wyawc2000> i have download...
[07:44] <peadot> hi
[07:44] <soundray> intelikey, you said you were using startx - does X by itself give you the same error?
[07:44] <Seveas> cocox, by connecting to it...
[07:44] <wyawc2000> and installed..
[07:44] <wyawc2000> just now..
[07:44] <peadot> need german unbuntu support... anyone maybe?
[07:44] <Seveas> !de
[07:44] <ubotu> I heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:44] <intelikey> soundray yep    xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root
[07:44] <Smof> so can anyone tell me an mp3 encoder I might need? Or should I already have one?
[07:44] <ecobuntu> wyawc2000: and it wouldn't work?
[07:44] <Mitja> Where does apt keep its uninstall log?
[07:44] <Seveas> !no de <reply> is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:44] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[07:44] <cocox> Seveas, sure i know but my windows pc cant see the proxy.. i make a ping between and nothing happens.. :(
[07:44] <peadot> #ubuntu-de
[07:45] <Seveas> peadot, /join #ubuntu-de
[07:45] <peadot> hmmpf... ok, i'm also new to irc... *g*
[07:45] <wyawc2000> yes. my java couldn't exe file..
[07:45] <Seveas> wyawc2000, what was the error?
[07:45] <peadot> thx, bye fellas
[07:45] <wyawc2000> javac hello.java can through .. but java hello, it prompt couldn't find java commond..
[07:46] <djm62> Smof: you want gstreamer0.8-plugins
[07:46] <soundray> intelikey, was your non-root user created with all the proper groups?
[07:46] <djm62> Smof: I think
[07:46] <justme> Erm.. I know this sounds like a total newbie question but I am a total newbie ;) How do you change your screen resolution in KDE? I went to the desktop and chose the configure option, display and the only options are 640x480 or lower. I downloaded Xorg which someone said would help but I'm kinda lost now.
[07:46] <Mitja> djm62: lol, 512 MB off the net!
[07:46] <djm62> Mitja: wow! is most of it not cached? (on your disk still)
[07:47] <zwalkert> does anyone here use ximian under ubuntu to connect to a microsoft exchange server?
[07:47] <Mitja> djm62: I don't know anything about cache.
[07:47] <Mitja> djm62: I guess apt is set up the way it installs everything from the net.
[07:47] <wyawc2000> i run : update-alternatives --config java, and selected it..
[07:47] <intelikey> soundray djm62 mamoru   i found it.         /  mounted  'nosuid'   hehhe it was ignoring +s    :)
[07:47] <cdubya> wyawc2000, have you tried to run the file with the full path and see if that works.....?
[07:48] <Mitja> djm62: How should I point it to cache?
[07:48] <djm62> intelikey: you might want to file a bug if it installed like that
[07:48] <soundray> intelikey, arrgh!
[07:48] <xored> i installed eclipse but he says, i have no JVM. But i installed JDK5 before, and my other Programms can be started by "java -jar name"
[07:48] <|Wanted|> i have a problem (how all)
[07:48] <intelikey> there was options on how to mount the partition and i set that....
[07:48] <wyawc2000> full path??  how to run?  Sorry, i don't know...
[07:49] <intelikey> it is an install choice,  and if you choose it you can't use any suid stuff.....
[07:49] <Smof> thanks djm62
[07:49] <cocox> i configured SQUID in my ubuntu(proxy) for share internet connection with my windows(client) pc but the windows pc cant see the proxy.. any ideas ??
[07:49] <cdubya> wyawc2000, did you install the .deb or what, sorry, I missed that....
[07:49] <wyawc2000> i install the .deb.
[07:49] <djm62> Mitja: normally apt secretes .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives when it downloads them, even if you uninstall.  so you might have some being downloaded and others downloaded
[07:49] <intelikey> way cool.... now i wonder if i can work around this or will have to change the mount option  ???????
[07:50] <cdubya> wyawc2000, open a shell and type which java
[07:50] <nick01> I can't use that update tool- it doesn't fit on screen at 800x600 :(
[07:51] <wyawc2000> java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java  /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[07:51] <intelikey> and of course like everyone else that installed hoary  my sound doesn't work.....  :)
[07:51] <Mitja> Are there any other console editors besides nano?
[07:51] <cdubya> k,
[07:51] <nick01> any way to make it install the updates ?
[07:51] <djm62> nick01: hold down alt and drag from the middle of the window until you can see the "maximise" button
[07:51] <cdubya> wyawc2000, /usr/bin/java java_file_name.....will it run the file you're trying.....
[07:51] <intelikey> hmmmm wonder how i can find out what this on board sound is ?
[07:52] <wyawc2000> ok..waited..
[07:52] <mamoru> djm62, it worked!
[07:52] <cdubya> wyawc2000, without the file extension....
[07:52] <ecobuntu> nick01: you could use the terminal and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:52] <nick01> tks :)
[07:52] <djm62> nick01: holding down alt lets you drag windows from anywhere (I know the pain of low res in a hi res world ;) )
[07:52] <gimmulf> Where do i get the "radeon" driver?
[07:52] <nick01> works
[07:52] <ecobuntu> nick01: you could also try to shrink the window
[07:52] <nick01> maximizing worked
[07:52] <tidi> why low res?
[07:53] <nick01> laptop
[07:53] <intelikey> what kind of tool is there to detect   on-board sound  ?
[07:53] <intelikey> !ati
[07:53] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:53] <soundray> intelikey, lspci ?
[07:54] <fevoldj2> Hi
[07:54] <fevoldj2> How do I configure webmin in Ubuntu?
[07:54] <intelikey> soundray it doesn't show anything,  done checked there.
[07:54] <wyawc2000> Sorry, it also prompt: r  oot@edubuntu:/usr/bin# java hello
[07:54] <wyawc2000>          bash: java: command not found
[07:54] <intelikey> that was my first guess.
[07:54] <soundray> intelikey, is it enabled in the BIOS?
[07:54] <intelikey> yeah
[07:55] <soundray> intelikey, and you didn't choose any weird options on install?.... just checking.
[07:55] <intelikey> was working with linux before i installed this flavour
[07:55] <intelikey> soundray :)
[07:55] <Siph0n> so if the makefile is trying to connect to a website to download a file and install it, where do u think that website is stored? the current website is down, but there is a mirror i know works....
[07:55] <wyawc2000>  bash: java: command not found
[07:56] <soundray> intelikey, you could boot Knoppix and see if it detects your sound chip.
[07:56] <AndiM> hi guys! could someone on (K)Ubuntu Breezy please do a dpkg --get-selections >/tmp/breezy_selections.log and mail me that file? (andi AT A HOST CALLED lisas.de). I'm doing a cross-grade from Debian Sarge and want to make sure to get everything right... Thanks!
[07:56] <intelikey> nosuid is not so weird         goodness!
[07:56] <sig> some odd reason when I try to run firefox it never opens
[07:56] <drakeisduck> AndiM: best place to ask that is #kubuntu
[07:56] <sig>  /usr/bin/firefox: line 221: /home/joe/.mozilla/firefox/1s945ane.default/ver: Read-only file system
[07:56] <AndiM> drakeisduck: thanks :)
[07:56] <drakeisduck> np
[07:56] <intelikey> soundray i don't have a knoppix cd tho and dialup 'slowdem' connection...
[07:57] <sig> Could not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/joe/.gnome2_private/': Read-only file syste
[07:57] <Siph0n> oh yea i tryed the grep command to try and find where the url is... but no luck....
[07:57] <sandro> hello
[07:57] <wyawc2000> cdubya  , how to solve it?? help me??
[07:57] <soundray> intelikey, can you find out your motherboard type?
[07:57] <djm62> sig: did you change the mount options for the filesystem that /home is on?
[07:57] <cdubya> wyawc2000, that's weird.
[07:58] <intelikey> old.... ibm 300pl   what ever they had in them
[07:58] <Seveas> AndiM, ubuntu-desktop is what you need :)
[07:58] <cdubya> wyawc2000, can you do a which java for me again?
[07:58] <Seveas> AndiM, and for kubuntu: kubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <sandro> is anyone willing to answer a noob question ^^?
[07:58] <intelikey> let me do some looking......
[07:58] <soundray> intelikey, or google for the names of some of the devices that lspci does detect.
[07:58] <AndiM> Seveas: oh, didn't know that that meta package already contains everything essential...
[07:59] <cdubya> wyawc2000, have you installed the .deb more than once by chance?
[07:59] <wyawc2000> /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java          /usr/share/java             /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[07:59] <intelikey> you mean like the maxtor graphics ?
[07:59] <Seveas> AndiM, the Ubuntu installer installs ubuntu-base, (k)ubuntu-desktop and a bootloader :)
[07:59] <Seveas> (ao you need ubuntu-base too)
[07:59] <Seveas>  so*
[07:59] <wyawc2000> sudo dpkg -i sun*.deb , only once..
[07:59] <soundray> intelikey, s/maxtor/matrox/ ?
[07:59] <sandro> does anyone know why my keyboard layout wont change... i want to use the finnish layout
[07:59] <AndiM> Seveas: oooook, that helps a LOT. thanks!
[08:00] <soundray> intelikey, no, I mean the board devices.
[08:00] <sandro> does anyone know why my keyboard layout wont change... i want to use the finnish layout
[08:00] <intelikey> :  that is.
[08:01] <sandro> ...
[08:01] <ompaul> sandro, system - administration - keyboard <-- is that any use to you?
[08:02] <sandro> ive tried that ompaul
[08:02] <sandro> ...
[08:02] <intelikey> i found it   ' Crystal SoundFusion Audio  by Cirrus Logic   CS4235 '
[08:02] <cdubya> wyawc2000, what are you using for your java files.....are you just writing them in a text editor, or using an IDE?
[08:02] <Seveas> AndiM, Ubuntu also has really nice kernel metapackages: linux-{386,686,k7,ppc,amd64-generic,amd64-xeon}
[08:02] <donza> sandro: did you choose at the install finnish keyboard layout?
[08:02] <Seveas> pick your architecture :)
[08:02] <intelikey> now what kind of module does that take ?
[08:03] <AndiM> Seveas: no need, been self-compiling almost for decades on Debian ;) (my Debian install is 9 years old, BTW)
[08:03] <wyawc2000> i using vi, only a simple "hello.java" file.
[08:03] <soundray> intelikey, possibly snd-cs4281
[08:03] <sandro> donza, i couldnt, or there was no difference >*
[08:03] <mememe> ok, im stumped. how does one install mod_python in ubuntu? :$
[08:04] <guillaume> Hi all
[08:04] <mememe> i've run sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-python2.4 ..
[08:04] <wyawc2000> it can through compile , but couldn't run..
[08:04] <Seveas> AndiM, I'd recommend to just install one to be on the safe side :) (Ubuntu has some patches you need)
[08:04] <[cro] smiley> hi all
[08:04] <guillaume> bye all
[08:04] <ompaul> sandro, please stop with the extra noise, >> << and wait a minute or two, have you  installed the additional language settings also?
[08:04] <mememe> but I cannot figure out what to do next :)
[08:05] <ompaul> sandro, system administration language selector,
[08:05] <sandro> ompaul, i havent installed any other language settings
[08:05] <cdubya> wyawc2000, the only reason I ask is that I ended up downloading jdk 5.0 and just installing it in my home dir, then pointing Eclipse at it to use it as the installed JRE. Works like a champ. Just wondered if you were using anything like that....
[08:05] <donza> btw.. how do you change the gnome calendar to start week from monday?
[08:05] <AndiM> Seveas: arrrrgh, gotta hate those non-upstream-only patches... (but I really hope Ubuntu is quite active in getting them merged)
[08:05] <intelikey> soundray i tried snd-4236  and it installed but something is still not right.
[08:05] <ClayG> has anyone seen adryel around?
[08:05] <Seveas> AndiM, as active as possible
[08:06] <intelikey> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[08:06] <ClayG> and has anyone used a thumb drive to run ubuntu?
[08:06] <intelikey> do i need to also make a device node ?
[08:06] <Seveas> ClayG, about a dozen of them...
[08:06] <Seveas> ah, to run
[08:06] <Seveas> nvm
[08:06] <intelikey> i thought modprobe would do that
[08:06] <ClayG> Do you know what the speed is like?
[08:06] <soundray> intelikey, where did you find that?
[08:06] <sandro> ompaul, ill try if changing the language helps
[08:07] <intelikey> find what ?
[08:07] <intelikey> the driver ?
[08:07] <mamoru> oh man, it's still stuck :((((
[08:07] <ompaul> sandro, I have no other really useful ideas
[08:07] <soundray> intelikey, yes.
[08:07] <ClayG> Seveas, do you know anyone first hand that does? That I could ask a question about it to?
[08:07] <intelikey> modprobe snd-<tabkey>
[08:07] <intelikey> :)
[08:07] <mamoru> what package do i need to install under ubuntu to get the GTK+-2.0 header files?
[08:07] <gimmulf> Ho do i execute an .run ?
[08:07] <Seveas> ClayG, sorry, no
[08:07] <Seveas> gimmulf, shoot it
[08:08] <sandro> ompaul, thank you anyway ^^
[08:08] <gimmulf> Seveas:  shoot it?
[08:08] <wyawc2000> ok. i try . thank you ?  but i don't know how to add JRE to my Eclipse..
[08:08] <mememe> could anyone please point me to some resource on how to install mod_python under ubuntu?
[08:08] <wyawc2000> I have been download Eclipse 3.1
[08:08] <Seveas> you wanted to execute it, right? Shooting is efective, you might try hanging or electrocuting
[08:08] <gimmulf> Seveas:  come on :)
[08:08] <[cro] smiley> i get this message in KDevelop when i try to execute simple program: "/bin/sh: konsole: command not found ***Exited with status: 127***
[08:08] <Seveas> ;)
[08:08] <djm62> mamoru: libgtk2.0-dev
[08:08] <[cro] smiley> what is the problem
[08:08] <soundray> intelikey, after module insertion check dmesg | tail for errors.
[08:08] <wyawc2000> I need to download which file?
[08:08] <Seveas> gimmulf, chmod +x bla.run; ./bla.run
[08:08] <trappist> mememe: libapache-mod-python2.4 for example
[08:08] <Coburn> please tell me how to start at startup fbpanel and i desk in blackbox????
[08:09] <Coburn> how to save my config
[08:09] <gimmulf> thanks Seveas
[08:09] <ClayG> In a book i read, It said you could create panels that would handle only certain programs.  I took this to mean you could have one panel only for the firefox instances, while another panel will show the programs. Is this possible?
[08:09] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, sudo apt-get install konsole
[08:09] <mamoru> djm62, thx, gonna try
[08:09] <Coburn> please
[08:09] <ClayG> It did not tell how to though :(
[08:09] <[cro] smiley> thanx Seveas
[08:09] <intelikey> soundray i don't see any errors....
[08:09] <mememe> trappist, i installed it, but i dont know what to do after that. I thought i could just add a <Directory ..> or LoadModule but i only get error msgs when restarting apache
[08:10] <mememe> don't
[08:10] <jani> moro
[08:10] <equilibriusmind7> hello
[08:10] <cdubya> wyawc2000, go here and click on Accept....then the self-extracting (not the rpm....the .bin file)......https://jsecom16.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=B2AAAEDB25FA3002737965BD2ECA609E
[08:10] <mamoru> djm62, OUCH! This package is already installed on my system!
[08:10] <djm62> mamoru: I thought it would be...
[08:10] <soundray> intelikey, it's probably not enough to install the driver module.
[08:10] <xored> can someone help me with my Eclipse. He says there is no JVM there, but when he checks testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...not found, this is there and working..
[08:10] <trappist> mememe: I know how to install it (which is what you asked) but I don't know how to use it
[08:10] <mamoru> djm62, man this is crazy
[08:11] <mememe> trappist, ah.. ok, cool. thanks for the pointer anywho :)
[08:11] <cdubya> wyawc2000, that's if you want to use something Eclipse, where you can point it to which JRE you want to use, though....
[08:11] <Coburn> please tell me how to start at startup fbpanel and i desk in blackbox????
[08:11] <djm62> mamoru: have you tried logging out and back in?
[08:11] <Coburn> please
[08:11] <Seveas> Coburn: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:11] <mamoru> djm62, nope, should i?
[08:11] <intelikey> well installing the module also installed about 12 other modules related to sound soundray
[08:11] <donza> has anyone messed with gnome clock/calendar widget? i'd like to change calendar week to start from monday...
[08:11] <xukun> is there something like photoshop for linux?
[08:11] <mamoru> xukun, try gimp
[08:11] <djm62> mamoru: can't hurt...I forget where the environment things get set
[08:11] <donza> gimp is ok
[08:11] <mememe> heyo.. does anyone know how to get mod_python WORKING under ubuntu? :) (I have installed libapache-mod-python2.4)
[08:12] <intelikey> but alsamixer errors out with 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory'
[08:12] <Seveas> mememe, a2enmod mod_python
[08:12] <mamoru> djm62, should i just Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or sudo reboot?
[08:12] <xukun> mamoru, thanks
[08:12] <equilibriusmind7> is there any way to get paltalk working on kubuntu? aside from wine
[08:12] <[cro] smiley> Thanx Seveas it works now. What is the difference betwean Konsole and Terminal?
[08:12] <wyawc2000> i have a file : jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin...
[08:12] <Seveas> mememe, and then restart apache
[08:12] <djm62> mamoru: if I were you, System-> log out
[08:12] <cdubya> wyawc2000, if you want, you can just use synaptic and make sure that multiverse and universe are enabled, then go to the Development section and 1.4.2 jdk is there.....
[08:12] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, konsole is the kde version of the terminal
[08:12] <djm62> mamoru: then when gdm or whatever appears, log in
[08:13] <trappist> equilibriusmind7: paltalk is win32.  if you want to use it in linux you're going to need some kind of virtualization... like wine
[08:13] <mamoru> djm62, ok, gonna try
[08:13] <[cro] smiley> oh :)
[08:13] <intelikey> eeeek    * Setting up ALSA...
[08:13] <intelikey> amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory
[08:13] <equilibriusmind7> thank's
[08:13] <mememe> Seveas, "This module does not exist!"
[08:13] <cdubya> wyawc2000, what do you get when you do java --version
[08:13] <yacoob> :)
[08:13] <intelikey> about 10 lines of that error ^
[08:13] <yacoob> Any hints on using tvout with fglrx? So far, I've got the picture, but it's black&white, and a bit too small...
[08:13] <Seveas> mememe, which package did you install?
[08:14] <mememe> Seveas, "sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-python2.4"
[08:14] <soundray> intelikey, do you have /dev/dsp ?
[08:14] <wyawc2000> long ago, i download jdk1.5.bin
[08:14] <Seveas> ah, apache1
[08:14] <cdubya> wyawc2000, yes, but what does the system tell you when you do java --version?
[08:15] <Seveas> apache2 is much nicer, a2enmod is apache2 specific - for apache 1 you need to manually edit the config to load mod_python
[08:15] <intelikey> yep dsp   dsp1  dsp2  dsp3
[08:15] <soundray> intelikey, oops, that's a lot...
[08:15] <londonboi2k3> hi guys, are there any GUI apps for converting mp3 > ogg?
[08:15] <mememe> Seveas, ah.. oops! I do run apache2 .. :)
[08:15] <wyawc2000> it prompt : not find java
[08:15] <mamoru> djm62, same sheath, gtk/gtk.h - no such file or directory
[08:16] <Seveas> mememe, then remove libapache-mod-python and install libapache2-mod-python
[08:16] <ClayG> Is there any app that can handle converting .avi to a dvd?
[08:16] <AndyR> hi all
[08:16] <ClayG> tovid can but I lose audio
[08:16] <cdubya> wyawc2000, kinda what I thought....;)
[08:16] <wyawc2000> i do: ./jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[08:16] <soundray> intelikey, anyway, bypassing mixer stuff, do you want to try a 'cat file.wav >/dev/dsp' (replace file.wav with your favorite Nine Inch Nails song)
[08:16] <intelikey> but cat urandom > dsp    no sound so something is bork
[08:16] <soundray> intelikey, okay...
[08:17] <mememe> Seveas, you caught me in the act :) many, many thanks :) Is it not weird that it installs without complaining about an apache1 dependency? Or am I just not seeing something?
[08:17] <mamoru> looks like i'll have to download the tarball from gtk.org :(((
[08:17] <Seveas> mememe, maybe you have apache installed too now :)
[08:17] <mamoru> but will it work under ubuntu?
[08:17] <soundray> intelikey, would you post your lspci output on pastebin?
[08:17] <djm62> mamoru: I'm not sure why it isn't working, but I don't think downloading the tarball is the solution
[08:17] <intelikey> let me #flood
[08:17] <detra> hello ... I have been running ubuntu for 2 days now, and I am getting pissed about that my sound only works at one thing at a time. How can I fix that ?
[08:17] <djm62> mamoru: can you compile a gtk hello world from the command line?
[08:18] <Seveas> mememe, at least apache-common (which might be provided by apache2 too, dunno)
[08:18] <intelikey> it's short
[08:18] <intelikey> sound /j #flood please  ?
[08:18] <mamoru> djm62, i don't have gtk/gtk.h
[08:18] <mememe> Seveas, haha, possibly :)
[08:18] <mememe> Seveas, there is apache2-common methinks
[08:18] <trappist> detra: I hear that complaint about 20x/day in here.  I'm gonna hang out this time and pay attention to the answer.
[08:19] <mememe> Seveas, and yes.. I did have apache-common installed now :)
[08:19] <soundray> intelikey, okay.
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> detra,  whats your sound card? and what programs you using to test this?
[08:19] <trappist> detra: I know the answer is going to involve a sound daemon like artsd or esound, but that's about all I know.
[08:19] <mamoru> djm62, speaking more pessimistically, i don't have /usr/include/gtk at all
[08:19] <Smof> can anybody suggest a good download client, please?
[08:19] <Seveas> mamoru, libgtk2.0-dev is what you need
[08:20] <djm62> mamoru: one second
[08:20] <detra> Dr_Willis, I got a soundblaster pci!
[08:20] <Seveas> Smof, wget
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Smof,  for downloading what?
[08:20] <mamoru> oh, sht!
[08:20] <mamoru> djm62, solved
[08:20] <mamoru> djm62, the directory was called gtk-2.0
[08:20] <ClayG> Smof, I like Kget+konqueror. It's the best I've found and is *almost* as good as Flashget
[08:20] <trappist> detra: you shouldn't have that problem with a soundblaster (they do hardware mixing)
[08:20] <djm62> mamoru: :) all is well
[08:20] <intelikey> soundray like i said eariler it's not listed in that.
[08:20] <trappist> mamoru: libgtk1.2-dev
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> detra,  if the programs are all set to use the sound-server programs - they shoulld mix fine.
[08:21] <intelikey>  and that was      /exec -o lspci   right here in the irc client.
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> I got a Soundblaster Audigy2zs :P
[08:21] <Siph0n> where is the zlib package at??? :)
[08:21] <trappist> mamoru: or libgtk2.0-dev
[08:21] <mamoru> trappist, Seveas, it's all ok.
[08:21] <xukun> I need same kind of image viewer programm which makes possible to just press next to see the next picture on the directory
[08:21] <detra> Dr_Willis, is it because I run default sound drivers ?
[08:21] <mamoru> trappist, Seveas, it's all ok, I have solved the problem, thank you!
[08:21] <Smof> dr_willis, mp3s and mpegs
[08:21] <soundray> intelikey, it gives me a better idea of your hardware, though.
[08:21] <trappist> mamoru: tell me!
[08:21] <djm62> xukun: f-spot?
[08:21] <intelikey> k
[08:21] <soundray> intelikey, it's apparently on the ISA bus (even if onboard)
[08:21] <Seveas> Siph0n, zlib1g
[08:21] <trappist> Siph0n: try zlib1g
[08:21] <intelikey> yeah
[08:21] <Siph0n> o k thanx :)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> xukun,  ive twiddled with several - and use 'irfanview' with wine normally :P i got to scan through several 100 pictures at a time and get rid of the trash.. space = keep, del=delate with irfanview. :P
[08:22] <soundray> intelikey, that means you may need to play around with module parameters.
[08:22] <Siph0n> zliblg doesnt work ? :( am i missing a site in sources.list perhaps?
[08:22] <justme> does anyone, anyone at all know how to open the GUI for Xorg?
[08:22] <Seveas> Siph0n, zlib1g is installed by default
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Smof,  you rfering to  Peer2Peer network client? or a web-browser assistant type client?
[08:22] <mememe> Seveas, Ok, works like a charm now, thanks again!
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> justme,  what? ya need to give some more details. that made.. like no sence.
[08:23] <djm62> justme: what do you mean? xorg is a display server...it doesn't have GUI of its own
[08:23] <mamoru> trappist, i thought the header files are in '/usr/include/gtk', but they were in '/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/'
[08:23] <apiet> semarang
[08:23] <mamoru> trappist, too trivial
[08:23] <soundray> intelikey, just looking at http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Alsa-sound-5.html ...
[08:23] <trappist> heh
[08:23] <hansder> how do i upgrade hoary hedgehog to breezy badger?
[08:23] <Smof> peer2peer I think. I used to use Gnucleus on Windows so something like that would be good as I fear change
[08:23] <Seveas> !breezy
[08:23] <Siph0n> oh :( cause im getting /usr/include/zlib.h must be installed on the buildsystem... hmmm maybe i try sometin first
[08:23] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:23] <intelikey> hmmm bumber....     why didn't ub add 'sndconfig' to the repos
[08:23] <Seveas> ^== hansder
[08:24] <hansder> !breezy
[08:24] <Siph0n> my /usr/include/ directory dont have a zlib.h file tho....
[08:24] <trappist> intelikey: I'm curious about that myself
[08:24] <justme> I need to get the stupid thing to change the screen resolution. I just installed Breezy and the crappy thing is stuck at 640x something so you can't even fit the entire menues on the screen. Why this is the defualt I have no idea.
[08:24] <hansder> thx
[08:24] <trappist> justme: sounds like you might be short a driver
[08:25] <justme> It won't let me change it in the display manager of KDE so I need to have a direct GUI to Xorg itself or somehow get the system to give me the option to change the resolution.
[08:25] <soundray> intelikey, your solution could be in section 5.3, last para.
[08:25] <Mabus06> how do you close an unresponsive program running in WINE?
[08:25] <justme> It worked fine until I upgraded to Breezy.
[08:25] <cdubya> wyawc2000, so the system basically isn't seeing any installed jre/jdk/jvm
[08:25] <justme> To close a stuck program I usually open system monitor and kill it with that.
[08:25] <trappist> mamoru: killall wineserver, killall wineloader
[08:26] <djm62> justme: ah-ha, you should have your old xorg.cong
[08:26] <djm62> justme: xorg.conf
[08:26] <mamoru> trappist, ?
[08:26] <trappist> oops
[08:26] <trappist> Mabus06: killall wineserver, killall wineloader
[08:27] <mamoru> :)
[08:27] <Mabus06> where is system monitor justme ?
[08:27] <justme> I had to reinstall and format. for some reason it couldn't contact the upgrade servers so I used the Breezy CD.
[08:27] <Mabus06> it's still there trappist
[08:27] <wyawc2000> i take hello.java in my uncompress :/home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin.   run:  javac hello.java ,it through. run: java hello, fail.
[08:27] <djm62> justme: oh...did you have to do anything to get hoary working?
[08:27] <trappist> tab complete is dangerous in a channel with 650 people
[08:27] <cdubya> wyawc2000, if you get into a shell and type env, what does it say in the line that says PATH=
[08:27] <Kyral> lol
[08:27] <trappist> Mabus06: ps aux | grep wine
[08:27] <wyawc2000> but run: ./java hello.   the result show..
[08:28] <soundray> Is there a utility to create NTFS file systems?
[08:28] <justme> Sorry, it's Sytem then Performance Monitor
[08:28] <intelikey> how hard is it to use alien and install an rpm ?
[08:28] <Seveas> soundray, yes, it's called windows
[08:28] <justme> It has a running proccess tab you can kill anything from.
[08:28] <Seveas> intelikey, alien -i filename.rpm
[08:28] <Seveas> done.
[08:28] <Mabus06> didn't work trappist, but thanks anyway, someone in #winehq helped me
[08:28] <Kyral> soundray: I think GParted/QtParted can
[08:28] <cdubya> wyawc2000, so you're having to tell the system to run the executable java
[08:28] <soundray> Seveas, I thought that classified as Malware.
[08:28] <Seveas> soundray :)
[08:28] <trappist> Mabus06: what'd they say?
[08:28] <intelikey> k
[08:28] <fevoldj2> How do I configure webmin in ubuntu?
[08:28] <cdubya> wyawc2000, have you added it to the path by chance?
[08:28] <Seveas> if you don't use windows, you don't need ntfs
[08:28] <fevoldj2> The only thing I can find is for the version you compile
[08:28] <soundray> Kyral, thanks, I'll check it out.
[08:28] <Mabus06> killall -9 preloader
[08:28] <mamoru> people, what is the command for searching the files?
[08:29] <Seveas> mamoru, slocate
[08:29] <Kyral> mamoru: locate
[08:29] <Kyral> or that
[08:29] <Mabus06> errr
[08:29] <Kyral> or Beagle :D
[08:29] <Mabus06> killall -9 wine-preloader
[08:29] <Kyral> !beagle
[08:29] <ubotu> from memory, beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[08:29] <mamoru> which one?
[08:29] <wyawc2000> env:         PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[08:29] <trappist> soundray: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/man/mkntfs.html
[08:29] <Siph0n> so if i have zliblg , why dont i have the zlib.h file? :)
[08:29] <mamoru> or both?
[08:29] <justme> When I installed Hoary I had to install Xorg then someone gave me a command which let me configure it. Xserver or something that was done in the command prompt. I don't know what that was, hence my problem.
[08:29] <trappist> Mabus06: ah
[08:29] <wyawc2000> i don't now how to add ...
[08:29] <Seveas> Siph0n, because that's in zlib1g-dev
[08:29] <soundray> trappist, cool, thanks.
[08:29] <BooZee> anybody knows freenet6 ?
[08:30] <Agrajag> Siph0n: because that's in zlib1g-dev
[08:30] <Kyral> mamoru: Beagle is very powerful for searching your personal stuffs
[08:30] <Agrajag> oh wow, beaten
[08:30] <Kyral> mamoru: but if you need to search the system files use slocate
[08:30] <gimmulf> How do i change so i compille in a 32bit enviorment? (using amd64)
[08:30] <djm62> justme: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <Siph0n> k sweet :)
[08:30] <cdubya> wyawc2000, I used something like export PATH=/home/chris/jdk-1.5.04/bin:$PATH.....but YMMV.....I've not messed with the $PATH var too much.....
[08:30] <justme> gimmulf, Carefully.
[08:30] <djm62> justme: with sudo before it
[08:31] <mamoru> Kyral, thx, got it. 'locate' is a symlink to 'slocate' :)
[08:31] <mamoru> or smthng similar
[08:31] <Kyral> lol it is?
[08:31] <gimmulf> justme:  what :)
[08:31] <justme> Yes! thats it!
[08:31] <cdubya> wyawc2000, biggest trick is to get the /bin dir in the PATH methinks....
[08:31] <soundray> trappist, I'm impressed, it's packaged even.
[08:31] <Kyral> mamoru: it usually updates every night
[08:31] <justme> Thanks!
[08:31] <justme> QUIT
[08:31] <Kyral> but to force it to update run sudo slocate -u /
[08:31] <trappist> soundray: yeah most distros package ntfsprogs
[08:31] <mamoru> Kyral, unfortunately at night my PC is usually down
[08:31] <Siph0n> Agrajag and Seveas: thanx! :) works
[08:32] <afonit> anyone with experince in using rsync?
[08:32] <Kyral> Wouldn't anacron do that then..
[08:32] <mamoru> Kyral, so it is slocating -u now...
[08:32] <wyawc2000> Yes. i find in /usr/bin , the java icon different  /home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin/  java icon..
[08:32] <wyawc2000> how to set my path..
[08:32] <intelikey> what do you do when alien does this  ' conflicting packages - not installing sndconfig'
[08:32] <intelikey> ??
[08:32] <wyawc2000> now , i use /home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin
[08:33] <intelikey> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:33] <Kyral> wyawc2000: if you put it in ~/bin then open up .bashrc you should see an option for adding in a ~/bin into the PATH
[08:33] <gimmulf> How do i change so i compille in a 32bit enviorment? (using amd64)  Need to get Wine running on my amd64
[08:34] <trappist> gimmulf: I don't run amd64 but I'm pretty sure you're going to need a 32 bit chroot
[08:34] <gimmulf> trappist:  whats that
[08:34] <intelikey> where does alien put .deb files ?
[08:34] <SeVeN> hi all
[08:35] <Kyral> the working dir IIRC
[08:35] <intelikey> hmmm nothing there...
[08:35] <cdubya> wyawc2000, then maybe try export PATH=/home/wyawc2000/jdk1.5.0_05/bin:$PATH
[08:35] <SeVeN> anyone knows if i have any trouble installing a 686 kernel image on my P4?
[08:35] <Seveas> intelikey, alien -i puts no debfile anywhere, it installs immediately
[08:35] <SeVeN> i'm currently running a 386 kernel
[08:35] <iamsthitha> hey what packages in synaptic are the X headers?
[08:35] <Seveas> Seveas, 686 is recommended for that cpu :)
[08:35] <Seveas> iamsthitha, xlibs-dev
[08:35] <Kyral> lol
[08:36] <Seveas> SeVeN*
[08:36] <nekron> someone can help me? i want to install the beep media player, but in apt i can't find..
[08:36] <Kyral> nekron: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[08:36] <nekron> i want to know a mirror where i can find the beep
[08:36] <SeVeN> Seveas, yes i thought so, but its easy to install or do i have to recompile?
[08:36] <Kyral> Its in Universe
[08:36] <Kyral> I think
[08:36] <Seveas> Seveas, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:36] <Seveas> reboot
[08:36] <Seveas> done
[08:36] <iamsthitha> thanks
[08:36] <SeVeN> Seveas, thank you that's all i needed to know :)
[08:36] <wyawc2000> I have add this in my shell..
[08:36] <intelikey> Seveas or in this case doesn't install it at all
[08:37] <Seveas> mwaaaaaaaaaah i keep talking to myself
[08:37] <Kyral> nekron: Do you have Universe enabled?
[08:37] <SeVeN> Seveas, and don't be afraid to talk to yourself :P
[08:37] <drakeisduck> ha ha ha
[08:37] <holy_cow> heh
[08:37] <holy_cow> joker
[08:37] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell nekron about repos
[08:37] <cdubya> wyawc2000, what does java --version report?
[08:37] <iamsthitha> :\
[08:37] <nekron> Kyral, i don't know.. how i see this?
[08:37] <afonit> nekron, settings > repositiories > add the univers repositories, in synaptic
[08:37] <Kyral> ubotu should have just told you
[08:37] <ubotu> Kyral: Are you on ritalin?
[08:37] <Kyral> .....shaddup
[08:37] <Seveas> :)
[08:37] <robotgeek> Kyral: lol
[08:37] <wyawc2000> it also show :  bash: java: command not found
[08:38] <soundray> intelikey, did you look at the URL I posted?
[08:38] <Kyral> How the heck does the bot know I am on Ritalin
[08:38] <krogoth> how do I make an init script run on startup?
[08:38] <intelikey> sorry no i missed it soundray
[08:38] <krogoth> I know about the symlinks, but I can't find the program ubuntu uses to manage them...
[08:38] <cdubya> wyawc2000, k
[08:38] <soundray> intelikey, it's great to see how much you value my input.
[08:38] <Kyral> krogoth: no program "manages" symlinks
[08:38] <wyawc2000> I have no method..
[08:39] <soundray> intelikey, http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Alsa-sound-5.html, section 5.3, last paragraph.
[08:39] <krogoth> really?
[08:39] <jimmouz> Hello, I have Pb of installation for the pilot of my chart wifi WG311v2
[08:39] <Kyral> krogoth: yah
[08:39] <cdubya> wyawc2000, sorry, I wish I could help you more.....my experience in that is limited to knowing how to setup Eclipse and/or NetBeans, then just pointing it where I need to......
[08:39] <krogoth> I haven't had to do this manually since I've started using linux
[08:39] <wyawc2000> no way. it too patient..
[08:39] <Kyral> krogoth: do what?
[08:39] <krogoth> I don't know what runlevels to make it start in and what order it has to be in
[08:39] <Kyral> ah
[08:39] <Kyral> boot sequence
[08:39] <krogoth> is ubuntu really that far behind?
[08:39] <Kyral> I thought you meant symlinks in general
[08:39] <wyawc2000> NetBeans, it also can run in ub?
[08:39] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install bum
[08:40] <djm62> krogoth: update-rc.d
[08:40] <krogoth> oh, right
[08:40] <krogoth> how could I miss that?
[08:40] <djm62> krogoth: just like debian
[08:40] <intelikey> soundray i would have thought you would have been glad that i was trying to fix the thing rather than setting waiting on you like 'some' do.     but i was going to look....     it helps when i actually see the url...
[08:40] <djm62> krogoth: but runlevels, like debian are a little different
[08:40] <krogoth> so... update-rc.d start dhcpd?
[08:40] <Kyral> lol I thought he meant symlinks themselves lol
[08:41] <cdubya> wyawc2000, yep, but Eclipse is way faster....and I like it's interface better personally....
[08:41] <wyawc2000> I only want have a environment to do java .
[08:41] <djm62> krogoth: what are you trying to achieve?
[08:41] <soundray> intelikey, did you see it now?
[08:41] <krogoth> I know how init finds things
[08:41] <krogoth> but it looked like I had to do all that myself
[08:41] <krogoth> I want to run a dhcp server
[08:41] <Kyral> wyawc2000: You on 64 bit right?
[08:41] <cdubya> wyawc2000, then why not just use the Add Application method off the Applications menu?
[08:41] <intelikey> yes
[08:41] <robotgeek> jimmouz: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ that might help you
[08:41] <djm62> krogoth: you want to run it, or you want to set it to run on boot?
[08:41] <cdubya> wyawc2000, go to Development...
[08:41] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell jimmouz about wireless
[08:41] <cdubya> wyawc2000, then check Eclipse....
[08:41] <krogoth> I'll have to reboot, and I forget to run things...
[08:42] <Kyral> krogoth: do what i do
[08:42] <wyawc2000> i have eclipse. how to configure it .. When i run Eclipse, it show : A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[08:42] <wyawc2000> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[08:42] <wyawc2000> was found after searching the following locations:
[08:42] <wyawc2000> /home/wyawc2000/Eclipse/eclipse/jre/bin/java
[08:42] <wyawc2000> 'java' in your current PATH
[08:42] <Kyral> make a bash alias containing all the commands you need to start
[08:42] <Kyral> then run it when you login lol
[08:42] <Paradosso> does anyone use the soulseek network here?
[08:42] <stimpie> I have a problem with my clock, its running too fast.
[08:42] <cdubya> wyawc2000, install it, then when you launch Eclipse the first time and it finishes starting, go to Window > Preferences > Java > Installed JREs and add the one you installed....
[08:42] <krogoth> that sounds like a lot of work to run one package that comes with ubuntu...
[08:43] <Kyral> what package?
[08:43] <Kyral> You can file a bug to fix it
[08:43] <krogoth> if it says system startup links already exist, does that mean it should be running?
[08:43] <wyawc2000> my eclipse is needn't install. it run ...when i clicked : eclipse.. how i configure it..
[08:43] <Kyral> krogoth: try BUM
[08:44] <djm62> krogoth: yes
[08:44] <anavim> how do I add twm to my login screen's selections?  it doesn't autodetect it like the other WM's
[08:44] <wyawc2000> my computer is not 64 bit ..
[08:44] <krogoth> this should be in the services manager anyways...
[08:44] <Kyral> krogoth: ....
[08:44] <djm62> krogoth: but it may not be configured how you want it
[08:44] <krogoth> that's funny, because I can't find the process
[08:44] <Kyral> Try BUM, jeez
[08:44] <Kyral> Services Manager is a JOKE compared to BUM
[08:44] <intelikey> soundray Seveas mamoru djm62 and anyone i missed.... thanks for all the input.   i'll be back around in the morning or some time.
[08:44] <krogoth> it would be great if it actually listed all the services available
[08:45] <Kyral> what BUM?
[08:45] <cdubya> wyawc2000, Window > Preferences > Java > Installed JREs. Click on Add, then point it to the location of your java exe (home/wyawc2000/jdk-1.5.xx/bin)
[08:45] <Kyral> It lists everything it can find in the bootscripts area, IIRC
[08:45] <timte> Is it possible to get a Sony handycam (usb) to work in ubuntu?
[08:45] <krogoth> the services manager
[08:45] <Kyral> webcam?
[08:45] <Kyral> krogoth
[08:46] <Kyral> did you try installing bum?
[08:46] <timte> Kyral: video camera
[08:46] <krogoth> it doesn't look like I need it
[08:46] <Kyral> krogoth: you are trying to start something on boot right?
[08:46] <mamoru> oh, man, it took me all night long, but after creating 4 symlinks and changing compiler and linker settings in Anjuta, i have finally compiled the gtk hello world
[08:46] <krogoth> it was already set up
[08:46] <krogoth> it just wasnt starting
[08:46] <wyawc2000> Ok. I have find my mistake about my eclipse..
[08:46] <djm62> krogoth: if you do ls /etc/rc2.d is dhcpd included?
[08:46] <cdubya> wyawc2000, you get it?
[08:47] <krogoth> yes, it's there
[08:47] <djm62> krogoth: and if you do /etc/init.d/dhcpd start, does it give you any error messages?
[08:47] <wyawc2000> I find it show: miss JRE. So I copy JDK-JRE to Eclipse. And then it can start. and can work..
[08:47] <wyawc2000> Hehe, thank you...
[08:48] <cdubya> wyawc2000, np, glad it works for you. :)
[08:48] <krogoth> it did, but I think I fixed it
[08:48] <djm62> krogoth: if it doesn't, then dhcpd is set up and running, and it will run on boot next time you boot
[08:48] <krogoth> it has a process now
[08:49] <djm62> krogoth: then all is well
[08:49] <SnakeChomp> I am trying to ./configure taglib because apt-get doesn't know what it is, but I get this error. onfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[08:49] <SnakeChomp> . What could be causing this?
[08:49] <Alvin`> Hmm... Does anybody here know how to change the resolution to 1280x1024 via terminal, my monitor can take it, but it doesn't show up on the list.
[08:49] <krogoth> indeed
[08:50] <wyawc2000> A, now 03:49. i must quit , and go to sleep. Tomorrow i have class.
[08:50] <wyawc2000> Thank you everyone.. Bye...
[08:50] <nicks68> Is there anyway You can user jackd on 2 soundcard at the same time?
[08:50] <slashx1896> Hey all
[08:51] <jfletcher> hey, I've managed to fuck up my firefox -- was following a guide to install java on firefox + using ln command, + now it just trys to load + goes away...
[08:51] <soundray> Alvin`, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:51] <trappist> SnakeChomp: sudo apt-get install g++
[08:51] <dura> FYI: The community sources for apt are working again.
[08:51] <slashx1896> is gnutella the same kinda thing as limewire?
[08:51] <soundray> Alvin`, prepend sudo
[08:51] <timte> Will every damn device get the same name if I put them in the same usb port?
[08:52] <jfletcher> limewire IS a gnuttela client
[08:52] <SnakeChomp> trappist, sigh, wish that would have been taken care of when i installed gcc
[08:52] <dura> slashx1896, Yeah kind of.
[08:52] <trappist> timte: yes
[08:52] <dura> Except LimeWire uses Java...
[08:52] <timte> trappist: good
[08:52] <jfletcher> ^
[08:52] <Q_Continuum> the DVD archive contains the whole installation so one wouldn't have to connect to a archive, correct?
[08:52] <slashx1896> how do i connect to a server? the server it has when i start up gnutella doesnt work
[08:52] <jfletcher> hey, I've managed to fuck up my firefox -- was following a guide to install java on firefox + using ln command, + now it just trys to load + goes away...
[08:52] <trappist> SnakeChomp: well there's a c compiler and a c++ compiler - no reason when you install one to assume you want the other too
[08:53] <dura> jfletcher, Launch it from a terminal and see what erros show up.
[08:53] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: what's it tell you when you run it from the terminal?
[08:54] <jfletcher> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[08:54] <jfletcher> System error?:: Success
[08:54] <jfletcher> dura:
[08:54] <epik> hlo
[08:54] <jfletcher> drakeisduck:
[08:55] <slashx1896> whats a good server to connect to on gnutella?
[08:55] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: reinstall firefox?
[08:56] <dura> jfletcher, ?
[08:56] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: installing java via a .deb package you shouldn't need to mess around with firefox to get the plugin to work
[08:56] <jfletcher> drakeisduck: I have, same thing
[08:56] <drakeisduck> !tell jfletcher about javadebs
[08:56] <dura> jfletcher, Remove the symlink )ln command) that you made.
[08:56] <jfletcher> how?
[08:57] <dura> jfletcher, What was the command you typed that uses the ln command/
[08:57] <jfletcher> whats the "reverse" ln
[08:57] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: use the rm command
[08:57] <jfletcher> ok..
[08:57] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: then install the java deb package from that link
[08:57] <seww> how do i get the sound in totem videoplayer to stop lagging behind??
[08:57] <dura> The syntax for ln is ln -s(f) source destination
[08:57] <dura> So, rm destination
[08:57] <epik> have any person who know how to be root on ubuntu live cd ?
[08:57] <drakeisduck> epik: type sudo
[08:57] <drakeisduck> epik: there is no default password
[08:57] <jfletcher> dura: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29//libjavaplugin_oji.so  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:58] <epik> thanks
[08:58] <jfletcher> drakeisduck: i'm hoary, does it matter?
[08:58] <dura> jfletcher, So, rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:58] <jfletcher> dura: thx
[08:58] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: i don't think it should
[08:58] <dura> sudo rm that is...
[08:58] <jfletcher> thx both you guys =] 
[08:58] <jfletcher> I'll install that deb too
[08:58] <iamsthitha> hey
[08:58] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: if it does...just remove it...you know how to install a deb package?
[08:58] <Alvin`> epik: sudo passwd
[08:58] <Alvin`> <enter any password>
[08:58] <Alvin`> <enter desired password>
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[08:58] <Alvin`> su
[08:58] <Alvin`> <enter password you entered before>
[08:58] <iamsthitha> is there an experimental repository for apt?
[08:59] <jfletcher> drakeisduck: yeah
[08:59] <robotgeek> Alvin`: why are you enabling root?
[08:59] <Kawer> doesn't ubuntu live cd autoconfig wireless networks ? or do i have to do it myself?
[08:59] <drakeisduck> ok
[08:59] <jfletcher> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:59] <drakeisduck> yup
[08:59] <jfletcher> =] 
[08:59] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Kawer about wireless
[08:59] <mindmedic> has anyone had success running "skype" with "esddsp"?
[08:59] <drakeisduck> jfletcher: and if it doesn't work remove with synaptic or dpkg remove package
[08:59] <dura> ewwww esd
[08:59] <Kawer> nice
[08:59] <Alvin`> robotgeek: he asked how to be root, so I told him ;(
[08:59] <Alvin`> ;)
[08:59] <jfletcher> okay
[08:59] <robotgeek> Alvin`: you use sudo, not root
[09:00] <jfletcher> dura: it won't let me rm, it's a dir, i tryed also rmdir + it says "not empty"
[09:00] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell epik about sudo
[09:00] <Alvin`> robotgeek: I know, but I'm simply answering his question
[09:00] <iamsthitha> ey!
[09:00] <epik> thks ALVIN
[09:00] <Alvin`> *winner*
[09:00] <paxmaster> use the -r
[09:00] <Alvin`> No problem.
[09:00] <robotgeek> epik: you probably don't need to enable root for anything
[09:01] <Alvin`> You never need to
[09:01] <Alvin`> Only to rescue your system
[09:01] <Kawer> robotgeek: it there a if-you-aint-a-geek manual ? :
[09:02] <robotgeek> Kawer: what wireless card do you have?
[09:02] <Kawer> netgear
[09:02] <Mabus06> robotgeek, I came across a script that did commands that required root, and even if you put sudo at the beginning, the password timed out partway through
[09:02] <robotgeek> Kawer: do you know which one?
[09:03] <robotgeek> Mabus06: you can do a sudo -i to get a root shell, and execute it there
[09:03] <Kawer> robotgeek: nop .. but ill come back tomorrow then ill know it
[09:03] <epik> robotgeek ?
[09:03] <robotgeek> epik: what command are you using to mount?
[09:03] <epik> robotgeek : i use mount only !!
[09:04] <epik> or mkdir  , then mount /hda1 /home/ubuntu/x
[09:04] <robotgeek> epik: then sudo will work, read the link ubotu sent you
[09:04] <Mabus06> Hey, if I catch someone connecting to my wireless router, what can I do to them?
[09:04] <Kyral> nothing
[09:04] <w0rd54> I have a laptop I'm installing ubuntu on, it is freezing on "loading ide-cdrom" can I disable the ide-cdrom modules at boot so it can continue after this step? thanks in advance
[09:04] <djk_> Mabus06: send them horseporn ;)
[09:04] <Kyral> You should have WEP encryptions
[09:05] <robotgeek> epik: please don't /msg me
[09:05] <Mabus06> yes but if they connect to my internet and are *on* my network, what can i do and how?
[09:05] <robotgeek> epik: just ask in here
[09:05] <w0rd54> any suggestions?
[09:05] <gimmulf> How do i setup chroot to run 32bit applications on my  amd64? found an howto on the forum for Hoary but guess that wont work on my Breezy
[09:06] <epik> robotgeek : what do you want i do whit ubotu ?
[09:06] <robotgeek> epik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:06] <epik> ok
[09:07] <Mabus06> so what can I do to computers I dont want on my network other than encrypting?
[09:07] <Mabus06> when they're already connected
[09:08] <peterz___> Hi,
[09:08] <NoUse> !chroot
[09:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:08] <epik> thanks
[09:08] <epik> bye
[09:08] <epik> +
[09:08] <peterz___> I have a problem with my dhclient3 setup, it doesn't set the default route, anybody any idea what's misconfigured?
[09:08] <robotgeek> Mabus06: use access control/mac address auth
[09:09] <Mabus06> robotgeek, I mean what can I do *to* computers that try to steal my internet ;)
[09:09] <seww> how do i get the sound in totem videoplayer to stop lagging behind??
[09:09] <anavim> Mabus06: turn off your router
[09:09] <visik7> hi
[09:09] <visik7> where can I find the patch of grub for quiet boot ?
[09:10] <robotgeek> Mabus06: http://www.bash.org/?202477
[09:10] <slashx1896> Can someone help me with gnutella? or do i have to go to a dif room for that
[09:10] <Mabus06> anavim, that doesn't keep me on the internet, or teach them to stop trying
[09:10] <drakeisduck> visik7: just edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and add the word 'quiet' on the kernel line
[09:10] <anavim> Mabus06: that's the best you can do, legally... and when it comes up again, they'll be blocked out if you set up macid filtering
[09:10] <visik7> drakeisduck: the messages before the kernel boot
[09:10] <visik7> drakeisduck: like the line of grub that I ran
[09:11] <drakeisduck> visik7:  yes...were the kernel line is at the bottom of that file add the word quiet
[09:11] <drakeisduck> were/where
[09:11] <Sturek> hi
[09:11] <Mabus06> robotgeek, that was funny but not very explaining
[09:11] <Yoni> Hi all..
[09:11] <Mabus06> :D
[09:11] <Yoni> Just a q...
[09:11] <Yoni> Do you know if Bluefish can load files from an FTP server?
[09:11] <anavim> Mabus06: if you had more time on your hands, you could set up your router to forward all requests by unwanted visitors to only one site  :)
[09:11] <robotgeek> Mabus06: well, all you can do is mac id filtering
[09:11] <Yoni> ( I want to edit some PHP script that found on another pc @ my LAN.... )
[09:12] <Mabus06> robotgeek, I can't access their computer?
[09:12] <Sturek> I have a pretty stupid problem.....my panels got screwed up....there's just one drawer on one of them, nothing else, and they don't respond at all....how can I set them back to default ?
[09:12] <TIR> Hello
[09:12] <zAo^> lo TIR
[09:12] <visik7> drakeisduck:  I already have the quiet at the kernel line infact I got no mesg running the kernel but before the boot it prints some output of grub conf
[09:12] <visik7> and I want to remove it
[09:12] <slashx1896> what is a good gnutella server to connect to?
[09:13] <drakeisduck> visik7: how much output like a few lines?  cause you can't remove all of it
[09:13] <TIR> I'm trying to install kubuntu_amd64 and it seem that installs okey, but when it try to run it cannot
[09:13] <drakeisduck> visik7: do you have a splashscreen?
[09:13] <TIR> The grub is trying load root as /dev/sda1
[09:13] <visik7> drakeisduck: yes
[09:13] <zooko> So I just installed openoffice.org2 (because someone sent me a MS Word file), and I can't seem to find any binary executable.
[09:13] <anavim> how do I log in as a twm session from gdm?
[09:13] <drakeisduck> visik7: then it's probably as quiet as you can get it
[09:13] <robotgeek> Mabus06: make sure only your computer can connect?
[09:13] <zooko> Is this the brave new world where I have to write "java OpenOffice2" or something instead of executing a file to launch the app?
[09:14] <cdubya> oowriter...?
[09:14] <visik7> drakeisduck: but why grub prints out the conf of the kernel boot options
[09:14] <m0rphene> how can i make my own keyboard layout_
[09:14] <visik7> it's useless
[09:14] <visik7> before switching in fb
[09:14] <trappist> zooko: try oowriter2
[09:15] <drakeisduck> viski7:  how many lines are you talking about like 5?
[09:15] <gimmulf> How do i setup chroot to run 32bit applications on my  amd64? found an howto on the forum for Hoary but guess that wont work on my Breezy
[09:15] <Sturek> help.....please
[09:15] <Mabus06> robotgeek, okay I will explain... my other computers have trouble connecting to my router whenever I start doing encryption or anything similar. But unencrypted, this one pesky neighbor keeps using my net. So I'd rather just do something like what that topic said, lol
[09:15] <TIR> gimmulf did you have problems installing?
[09:15] <drakeisduck> sturek: what's your problem?
[09:15] <TIR> I cannot
[09:15] <robotgeek> Mabus06: i gotta run now, maybe later?
[09:15] <Sturek> my panels got screwed up....there's just one drawer on one of them, nothing else, and they don't respond at all....how can I set them back to default ?
[09:15] <anavim> Mabus06: mac id filter
[09:16] <Mabus06> robotgeek, you're the boss
[09:16] <zooko> trappist: thanks!
[09:16] <gimmulf> TIR:  well i did: expecting much as it's pre-beta and it does look very firefox clone like but not too bad. However I went to a website with flash and got the customary "Click here to install flash" banner at the top of the window and out of boredom decided to try it (not expecting it to work) but it said "found Macromedia Flash plugin, click here to install", and after it installed the plugin all of a sudden the flash page (which didn'
[09:16] <hedonick> Mabus06: you could start with making the router only accept know MAC numbers
[09:16] <Mabus06> anavim, okay I heard you before, thanks, but as I said I was wanting to know how to put or retrieve files from their computer.
[09:16] <gimmulf> sorry sorry sorry
[09:16] <BooZee> what's "gcc" ?
[09:16] <Alvin`> gnu compiler collection
[09:16] <anavim> Mabus06: I'm not going to tell you how to do illegal things, sorry
[09:16] <TIR> ...
[09:16] <drakeisduck> BooZee:  man gcc
[09:17] <Eicen> Hello.. I have a problem installing ubuntu.  when the installer gets to "Installing apt" i gets to 25%, and freezes.. whats wrong ?
[09:17] <gimmulf> TIR:  i did: sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap and then sudo mkdir /chroot/  now the howto tells me to do:  sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf to Add this line: hoary /chroot
[09:17] <gimmulf> but i use Breezy
[09:17] <dura> Why do I get 'command not found' when trying to use cd ?
[09:17] <dura> Makes no sense...
[09:17] <TIR> Yes I'm trying to install it but I cannot run after install
[09:18] <dura> Like, sudo cd /home/foo: cd: command not found.
[09:18] <TIR> In the grub line of root try to load at /dev/sda1
[09:18] <zooko> Hm.  Except oowriter2 appears to do nothing on my machine -- nothing happens, nor does it exit.
[09:18] <TIR> I think it's not detecting my sata disk
[09:19] <Mabus06> there are virtually no internet laws in Canada, anavim :P
[09:19] <nicks68> Is there anyway You can user jackd on 2 soundcard at the same time?
[09:19] <Mabus06> identify theft isnt even illegal here
[09:19] <anavim> Mabus06: hmmm... maybe I should move to canada  :D
[09:19] <_jason> anavim, so your identity can get stolen? 0_o
[09:19] <Mabus06> if you're a hacker you wouldn't be the first
[09:19] <Eicen> Hello.. I have a problem installing ubuntu.  when the installer gets to "Installing apt" i gets to 25%, and freezes.. what could be wrong ?
[09:19] <anavim> Mabus06: no, just a programmer
[09:20] <NoUse> dura did you mess with your PATH variabl?
[09:20] <zooko> Oh, I see.  I was waiting for the new gcj runtime or something.  Eventually a word processor did indeed pop up.
[09:20] <Mabus06> yes, "network security" guys are the same people as the hackers anyway. Just words.
[09:20] <kbrooks> http://kbrooks.ath.cx/blog/
[09:20] <zooko> Where "eventually" means 1m27s after I typed "oowriter2".  Sheesh.
[09:20] <anavim> Mabus06: yeah, no one agrees on what hacker means... :P
[09:20] <w0rd54> y0
[09:20] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[09:20] <w0rd54> anyone have an idea how to disable ide-cdrom support on bootup?
[09:20] <levander> I just had to remove the motherbard and replug everything back in.  Now the USB mouse/keyboard works in BIOS menu, but not once Linux is loaded.  Anybody got a suggestion for where to look to start fixing this?
[09:20] <w0rd54> during install
[09:20] <Paradosso> I need a powerful yet light on resources bittorrent client
[09:21] <trappist> zooko: yeah nobody ever accused ooorg of being fast or lightweight
[09:21] <zooko> Oh good, it cached, or something, and on subsequent startups it works.
[09:21] <w0rd54> Paradosso: bittornado
[09:21] <cdubya> zooko, you on an older box? comes up just fine here....
[09:21] <Paradosso> which do you advise?
[09:21] <trappist> Paradosso: btdownloadcurses
[09:21] <Paradosso> w0rd54, isn't it the one shipped with the default ubuntu install?
[09:21] <cdubya> cdubya, that's in a manner of timeliness for OO.org, I mean....
[09:21] <cdubya> heh
[09:21] <levander> Paradosso: you've tried configuring bittorrent to make minimum use of the network?  Or, it's other resources you're concerned about?
[09:21] <Paradosso> levander, concerned on RAM mainly (have 256)
[09:22] <levander> Paradosso: w0rd54 had a recommendation
[09:22] <trappist> 14:21 <trappist> Paradosso: btdownloadcurses
[09:22] <zooko> cdubya: I'm on an Athlon64.  Only first launch took 87 seconds.  Subsequent launches were fine.
[09:22] <w0rd54> Paradosso: bittornado is a good client, can be obtained from www.bittornado.com
[09:22] <Paradosso> is bittornado/btdownloadcurses capable of making torrents? I am concernerd with invite-only sites, ratios, ecc
[09:23] <Paradosso> (I currently use btdownloadcurses via screen)
[09:23] <trappist> zooko: I think there's a service for it similar to the one msoffice uses to keep chunks of the program in memory for faster startups
[09:23] <sdakota> anyone here knows how to magically make a p2 as fast as a p4 ?
[09:24] <anavim> sdakota: switch to a lighter-weight window manager?  :D
[09:24] <misfit_toy> sdakota, $$$
[09:24] <seww> how do i install the right soundcard drivers???
[09:24] <NoUse> sdakota wave your wallet at it
[09:24] <sdakota> anavim: it's purely console ^^
[09:24] <trappist> Paradosso: that's how real men do it
[09:24] <pr3vi0uz>  does Ubuntu have  this binutils im trying too install nvidia drivers ?
[09:24] <zmot> Hi, whenever I try to ./configure anything in the terminal, it always says at the end: "configure error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses" Or it says something with libraries etc! - Anyone experence that? Anyone that have a solution? :/
[09:24] <NoUse> zmot what are you trying to compile?
[09:24] <sdakota> misfit_toy, NoUse: That's the problem - the computer hardware is too old for p4 and I don't have enough money for a brand new complete p4
[09:25] <djm62> zmot: apt-cache search curses | grep dev
[09:25] <Eicen> can anybody help me a bit with installing ubuntu ?
[09:25] <anavim> sdakota: use your cli skills to get $50 for a chip/motherboard upgrade  ;)
[09:25] <trappist> zmot: sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev
[09:25] <zmot> thx, trying
[09:25] <misfit_toy> sdakota, sometimes more RAM will make a huge difference, how much do you have now?
[09:25] <sdakota> anavim: Brilliant!
[09:25] <sdakota> anavim: Just... Who needs my cli skills and wants to pay me $50 for that o.O
[09:26] <Paradosso> I still am not sure whether there is a difference between bittornado and btdownloadcurses
[09:26] <sdakota> misfit_toy: 128 MB, but about 1 GB of swap...
[09:26] <mikul> dose anyone know anything about input/output error?
[09:26] <NoUse> sdakota swap doesn't speed anything up
[09:26] <djm62> sdakota: more RAM will make you much more comfy
[09:26] <misfit_toy> sdakota, if you double that to 256 or more, you might be a lot happier ;)
[09:27] <sdakota> djm62, misfit_toy, how much do you guess 128 mb ram is in euros?
[09:27] <misfit_toy> sdakota, I have no clue
[09:27] <mister_roboto> "double" that to "256 or MORE"   I like that
[09:27] <antoni0> hi all
[09:27] <djm62> sdakota: ummm, 10-to-20
[09:27] <sdakota> mister_roboto, lol!
[09:27] <djm62> sdakota: maybe not so much
[09:27] <mister_roboto> :)
[09:27] <Artemis3> -_-
[09:27] <antoni0> im using ubuntu, i wanna know if exists another IRC client like Xchat, BitchX :), somebody knows?
[09:28] <zmot> trappist: "Errors were encountered while processing: xfingerd"
[09:28] <misfit_toy> antoni0, irssi
[09:28] <kbrooks> antoni0, a lot
[09:28] <NoUse> antoni0 you can search synaptic for that
[09:28] <sdakota> djm62, that's not so expensive... will it actually make things like compiling, and running programs like apache, etc, faster?
[09:28] <antoni0> where script is the best for unix systems?
[09:28] <misfit_toy> sdakota, yes
[09:28] <sdakota> great o.O
[09:28] <Sturek> does nobody know, how to reset the GNOME panels ?
[09:28] <misfit_toy> antoni0, http://tldp.org
[09:29] <RancidLM> hey all
[09:29] <bojaren> Hi everyone.
[09:29] <antoni0> there's some IRC Client, whit oper functions?
[09:29] <misfit_toy> Sturek, killall nautilus
[09:29] <sdakota> and untill what much MB will that go faster all the time? can I upgrade it to 1 GB to make it rlly fast or do I actually need CPU updates for that?
[09:29] <djm62> sdakota: yep, compiling programs is very ram intensive
[09:29] <zmot> trappist: got a solution? :(
[09:29] <dampjam> Is there good support for the tablet pen/monitor being sold for "tablet pcs"
[09:29] <misfit_toy> sdakota, the more RAM you have the way better you will be
[09:29] <soundray> sdakota, 128MB modules are getting rare. You should be able to get a 256MB one for around 25 Euros.
[09:29] <djm62> sdakota: eventually you must reach a limit, but it's pretty high
[09:29] <sdakota> soundray: then 1 GB is getting quite expensive though. 100 euros is a bit much...
[09:30] <NoUse> zmot what are you trying to compile?
[09:30] <RancidLM> i made a script that mounts and unmounts drives.. but its needs my sudo password.. is there a way i can make a link for this script but pops up the GUI password prompt?
[09:30] <sdakota> I mean, for a server, ...
[09:30] <djm62> sdakota: I have 512M on here, and it's OK
[09:30] <Sturek> nope....I even restarted.....I mean the panels....like Taskbar and stuff....
[09:30] <dampjam> RancidLM: man sudo... just make it not require a password
[09:30] <djm62> RancidLM: I think the prompt is gksudo
[09:30] <soundray> sdakota, the relationship isn't linear for per-module prices.
[09:30] <RancidLM> djm62, dampjam   thanks :)
[09:31] <alphee> hi
[09:31] <bojaren>   ?
[09:31] <sdakota> so if I just pay around 10,- I can make the server have around double speed?
[09:31] <sdakota> bojaren: that looks odd
[09:31] <bojaren> oops..
[09:32] <bojaren> It's Korean...I'm looking for other Korean who is using Ubuntu. :)
[09:32] <djm62> !korean
[09:32] <ubotu> djm62: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:32] <NoUse> sdakota double ram doesn't make it double speed, it will be faster with more ram though
[09:32] <sdakota> ok
[09:32] <butcherbird> coughs
[09:33] <sdakota> Thanks !
[09:33] <sdakota> I gtg now
[09:33] <sdakota> Bye =)
[09:34] <pr3vi0uz>  how would  i go by installing this file binutils_2.15-6_i386.deb?
[09:34] <dapperisdrake> pr3vi0usz: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:35] <Seveas> pr3vi0uz, ewwww NO
[09:35] <pr3vi0uz>  thank you sir dapperisdrake
[09:35] <NoUse> pr3vi0uz is there a reason you aren't using apt/synaptic?
[09:35] <Seveas> DON'T
[09:35] <dapperisdrake> np
[09:35] <Seveas> throw it out
[09:35] <pr3vi0uz> :P
[09:35] <GoClick> Can I use the livecd to erase a hard drive? (zero wipe) ?
[09:35] <SnakeChomp> I am trying to mount an NTFS partition as read only, but when I try to cd into it, i get "permission denied". I'm using sudo mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sda2 /windows
[09:35] <SnakeChomp> . What am I doing wrong?
[09:35] <Seveas> NEVER manually install binutils/glibc or other core parts
[09:35] <pr3vi0uz>  im just looking for this  binutils
[09:35] <gimmulf> Anyone who like to help/or know where to learn setting up a nice 32bit enviroment for 32 bit aplications on my Breezy using Amd64 cpu?
[09:35] <Seveas> pr3vi0uz, DO NOT install that deb
[09:35] <NoUse> pr3vi0uz sudo apt-get install binutils
[09:35] <gimmulf> Anyone who like to help/or know where to learn setting up a nice 32bit enviroment for 32 bit aplications on my Ubuntu Breezy using Amd64 cpu?
[09:35] <dura> I wish there was a LimeWire .deb...
[09:35] <Seveas> binutils is installed by default at the correct version for ubuntu
[09:36] <ubuntu> Damn how can I join the #debian chan ?
[09:36] <pr3vi0uz>  not in mine  im trying too install a nvdia driver
[09:36] <Seveas> ubotu, /join #debian
[09:36] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:36] <maddash> can someone tell me the command that undos "openbox --replace"?
[09:36] <Seveas> ubuntu*
[09:36] <ubuntu> It keeps forwarding me right here
[09:36] <dapperisdrake> sorry i didn't recognize the file he was trying to install
[09:36] <dducko> ubotu tell dura about limewire
[09:36] <jenda> zmot! Why leave so fast? :)
[09:36] <dapperisdrake> because yo uname is ubuntu
[09:36] <Seveas> ubuntu, then change your nickname...
[09:36] <dapperisdrake> you need to change your nick
[09:36] <maddash> in other words, get rid of openbox and restore metacity?
[09:37] <glou> Still can't :'(
[09:37] <Seveas> you have ubuntu as ident
[09:37] <Seveas> so disconnect, change your ident and retry
[09:37] <glou> Ok :D
[09:37] <glou> Have a nice day
[09:37] <LjL> Seveas: uh... nice guys the #debian guys
[09:37] <rdancer> how do i enque multiple mp3 files for playback (in nautillus)?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> man
[09:38] <dura> I tried running LimeWire from the 'other' package. First it tells me it found the java exe, then it tells me it's the wrong version of java installed, THEN it tells me it can't fine the java exe.
[09:38] <Seveas> LjL :)
[09:38] <dura> Via ./runLime.sh
[09:38] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  shipit sends via ups?
[09:38] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, possibly
[09:38] <dducko> dura, did you install Sun Java?
[09:38] <dducko> ubotu tell dura about java
[09:38] <dura> dducko, Yes
[09:38] <dura> I don't want the bot to tell me about jack.
[09:38] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  so the UPS tractor-trailor up the street, now separate tractor and trailor and a Fedex truck, would slow my delivery?
[09:38] <dura> I only asked why there isn't a .deb in a repository some where.
[09:39] <dura> GTK-Gnutella is getting more worthless by the day in case no one has noticed.
[09:39] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, :)
[09:39] <NoUse> dura you really should read what the bot sends you
[09:39] <Seveas> maybe it IS your delivery ;)
[09:39] <NoUse> dura he links to a java deb
[09:39] <dura> I don't need the java deb... I asked about a LimeWire .deb.
[09:39] <dura> :|
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  Fedex-UPS Collisions seem to be common these days; perhaps somebody is hinting they want a merger
[09:40] <dducko> dura Limewire is a cinch to install if you follow that, as quick as a deb almost.
[09:40] <Seveas> bluefoxicy :)
[09:40] <NoUse> dura you're problem isn' limewire, you don't have java set up properly
[09:40] <dura> LimeWire does't get installed.
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> dducko:  why would you want limewire?  gtk-gnutella connects to the same network
[09:40] <dura> It get's unzipped and ran with a script.
[09:40] <Seveas> dura, -ENOSUCHTHING
[09:40] <LjL> Seveas: ENOENT
[09:40] <dura> NoUse, Java works fine with everyhting else I have installed.
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> dura:  try gtk-gnutella, it and limewire and bearshare and shareza and morpheus all use the same network and get the same results
[09:41] <NoUse> dura is the java executable in your PATH?
[09:41] <dura> Yes
[09:41] <Seveas> LjL, I try to keep it a bit readable ;)
[09:41] <Seveas> and it's -ENOENT :)
[09:41] <NoUse> dura then you are doing something wrong
[09:41] <dura> Before Ubuntu, I used Gentoo (since .99alpha) for 3-4 years.
[09:41] <LjL> Seveas: ok, ok :)
[09:42] <bluefoxicy> dura:  before ubuntu, I used hardened gentoo.
[09:42] <dducko> bluefoxicy, Mostly because I hate the UI.
[09:42] <dura> I've ran into other Ubuntu-specific issues too.
[09:42] <dura> Mostly small stuff...
[09:42] <dura> bluefoxicy, Why did you switch?
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> dura:  I wanted to get closer to ubuntu and try to manipulate them into integrating hardening features
[09:43] <djk_> will ubuntu run on a p2-400 ?
[09:43] <dura> bluefoxicy, Ever looked into bastille-linux?
[09:43] <ke> Yes
[09:43] <ke> It will
[09:43] <jcole> djk_: memory?
[09:44] <dura> djk_, Yep...
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> dura:  most of the stuff breaks near nothing; there's workarounds for the rest.  I had like 40 packages (10 of which were ibm-java, sun-java, blackdown-java, etc) that I had to chpax around :)
[09:44] <djk_> jcole: 320mb..
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> dura:  bastille is nothing.
[09:44] <jcole> djk_: you're fine
[09:44] <skullb0x> will ubuntu intsall a .deb file?
[09:44] <dura> bluefoxicy, It's not nothing no... it's handy for some.
[09:44] <dducko> skullb0x, yes
[09:44] <glouph> Is there any way to know what are the different partitions using ubuntu live cd ?
[09:44] <dura> skullb0x, man dpkg
[09:44] <NoUse> skullb0x thats what apt-get and synaptic uses
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> dura:  I'm talking about shit that would take, say, the SSH off-by-one error that allows injection of root shell into ssh, and have SSH crash upon exploit rather than give a root shell, even though we don't know yet that that vulnerability exists
[09:44] <dura> glouph, mount? df -Th ?
[09:45] <jcole> skullb0x: apt-get remove {package name}
[09:45] <dura> bluefoxicy, Yeah... lol
[09:45] <jcole> skullb0x: apt-get remove --purge {package name}
[09:45] <jcole> ^^^ if you want to also remove the config files
[09:45] <glouph> Ok dura thank you
[09:45] <bluefoxicy> dura:  stack smash protection, data/code separation (code is Read/executed, not changed; data is read/written, not run as code), address space layout randomization, etc.
[09:45] <skullb0x> its just that i installed gtk-gnutella from apt-get and it says its an old version, and apt-get update didn't update my sources for gtk-gnutella
[09:45] <pr3vi0uz> i have a question
[09:46] <NoUse> pr3vi0uz probably best to ask it
[09:46] <dura> bluefoxicy, I was just reading something on stack smashing today.
[09:46] <bluefoxicy> dura:  phrack 46.14 "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit"?
[09:47] <pr3vi0uz>  hehe  NoUse  i was getting too the question sir :) im trying too install this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run
[09:47] <dura> bluefoxicy, I think that's was it yeah lol
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> dura:  :)
[09:47] <dura> Yep it was
[09:47] <NoUse> pr3vi0uz you know that there are nvidia drivers in synaptic right?
[09:47] <pr3vi0uz> oh nope i didnt  :P
[09:47] <NoUse> !tell pr3vi0uz about nvidia
[09:47] <dura> Anyway... bbiab... I should eat something today.
[09:48] <NoUse> pr3vi0uz try the wiki intructions
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> dura:  the protection for that btw is to have the compiler insert a canary before the return/stack frame pointer in the stack, and check it before return, which causes very small overhead but otherwise doesn't interfere with non-buggy applications
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> it crashes the program if you write past the end of the highest-order buffer in a stack frame though ;)
[09:50] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, canarys in my pc?
[09:50] <Seveas> oh my
[09:50] <Seveas> I might have to feed them :)
[09:51] <pr3vi0uz> thanks NoUse :)
[09:51] <nemesis> does anyone know of any good vpn client ?utility that I can pull off of ubuntus repository
[09:51] <DShepherd> hey
[09:52] <jono> hi all
[09:52] <jono> what is the ubuntu equivilent of /etc/modprobe.conf ?
[09:52] <trappist> nemesis: openvpn
[09:52] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  lol.
[09:52] <nemesis> is it gui based?
[09:52] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  check gcc 4.1
[09:52] <trappist> nemesis: gui *based*?  I don't think there is such a thing.
[09:53] <trappist> nemesis: most guis are just front-ends for console apps
[09:53] <aris[glande] > hey, is there a way I can find out the names of every package installed into the computer that does *not* belong to the package list actually into /etc/apt/source.list ?
[09:53] <jono> #anyone?
[09:53] <nemesis> okay well let me give it a try
[09:53] <nemesis> thanks
[09:53] <aris[glande] > jono, /etc/modules ?
[09:53] <SnakeChomp> is there some package I need to decode mp3 streams that isnt installed by default?
[09:53] <NoUse> !tell SnakeChomp about mp3
[09:54] <Seveas> aris[glande] , check the 'obsolete or locally created' section in aptitude
[09:54] <soundray> jono, /etc/modutils/ (directory)
[09:54] <trappist> jono: maybe you want /etc/modprobe.d/*
[09:54] <Seveas> (or maybe even synaptic)
[09:54] <jono> hmm
[09:54] <aris[glande] > Seveas, aptitude is cmd line util ?
[09:54] <jono> I am reading FC4 instructions
[09:54] <Seveas> aris[glande] , yeah
[09:54] <aris[glande] > i don't have X installed. I installed the ubuntu on top of a debian install
[09:54] <Seveas> jono, Ubuntu isn't FedoraCrap4
[09:54] <aris[glande] > and well, it worked.
[09:54] <jono> Seveas, I know, but its still Linux
[09:55] <Seveas> instructions for FC4 may (will) not work
[09:55] <jono> I need to specify module aliases
[09:55] <gimmulf> Which java package should i get for my amd64 Breezy system?
[09:55] <aris[glande] > i just had issues when upgrading the pcmcia-cs when under 2.4
[09:55] <jono> Seveas, no, they will work, but the locations will be different
[09:55] <homer> haha I'm using the Internet!!
[09:55] <Esers> Today received Ubuntu cds
[09:55] <Mabus06> okay jono, you put that guru Seveas in his place ;)
[09:55] <Esers> Has anyone installed ubuntu as the second os with xp?
[09:55] <trappist> jono: /etc/modutils/*
[09:55] <Gdp_usrlam> i did esers
[09:56] <Mabus06> !dualboot
[09:56] <SnakeChomp> E: Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate =(
[09:56] <ubotu> dualboot is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[09:56] <Seveas> jono, ergo: they won't work...
[09:56] <aris[glande] > Esers, i did too
[09:56] <Mabus06> esers ^
[09:56] <trappist> aris[glande] : if you know how to find out where a package came from we can prolly do a bash one-liner
[09:56] <Esers> Ok
[09:57] <Esers> The ubuntu partition tool is not that great (i don't like it!)
[09:57] <aris[glande] > trappist, in fact, I think there are still some packages left from the previous debian system
[09:57] <Esers> How about making ext3 and swap partitions in windows?
[09:57] <Gdp_usrlam> most of the people here probably did it Esers
[09:57] <gimmulf> Which java package should i get for my amd64 Breezy system? is the jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin good or should i get that blackhawk something?
[09:57] <NoUse> SnakeChomp did you enable the repos you need?
[09:57] <aris[glande] > gimmulf, take the jre one
[09:57] <Gdp_usrlam> it usefull enough
[09:57] <gimmulf> oki aris[glande] 
[09:57] <Mabus06> how do I find out info about people who are connected to my unsecured wireless network?
[09:57] <poningru> Esers: there will be a better partitioning tool in express
[09:58] <SnakeChomp> NoUse, probably not? lol
[09:58] <gimmulf> aris[glande] :  it isnt in the respitorys right?
[09:58] <aris[glande] > don't know
[09:58] <NoUse> SnakeChomp it's in the link ubotu sent you
[09:58] <Esers> U think that manual partition etc?
[09:58] <Esers> Because i was there and i didn't understand a .... :( ( YEAH STUPID YWAH WHATEVER)
[09:58] <Esers> Tb yeah
[09:59] <Esers> Because i don't want to lose data
[09:59] <Esers> :(
[09:59] <Mabus06> how do I find out info about people who are connected to my unsecured wireless network?
[09:59] <aris[glande] > find people with laptops in your street
[09:59] <aris[glande] > and shot them with a good gun before they can defend themselves
[10:00] <Esers> Maybe someone knows a good manual for installing ubuntu as second os
[10:00] <Esers> ?
[10:00] <Mabus06> dude
[10:00] <Mabus06> I JUST
[10:00] <Mabus06> linked you to one
[10:01] <Mabus06> !dualboot
[10:01] <ubotu> from memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[10:02] <anav1m> Mabus06, tcpdump
[10:03] <Esers> Ok another question
[10:03] <Mabus06> errr, and how do I refine that data anavlm?
[10:03] <Esers> If i have a 40 gb hdd
[10:03] <Esers> And i resize it to 30 gb
[10:03] <Esers> Won't i lose something?
[10:03] <jrattner1> How can i SYNC a windows mobile device in linux?
[10:03] <thenuke> Esers: no if you have 30gb or less data in it?
[10:04] <Esers> Yeah
[10:04] <Esers> Hmmz...
[10:04] <Esers> Righ
[10:04] <Esers> :(
[10:04] <anav1m> Mabus06, grep for just their IP address
[10:04] <Esers> Mandriva install for all! ;)
[10:04] <Esers> Ok off i go then
[10:04] <Impotence> hey, can someoen give me a hand mounting a ntfs drive?
[10:05] <Seveas> !ntfs
[10:05] <Seveas> !+\ntfs
[10:05] <ubotu> Not a clue, Seveas
[10:05] <Seveas> !+ntfs
[10:05] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.
[10:05] <Impotence> anyone? NTFS in ubuntu
[10:05] <Impotence> im only looking for read
[10:05] <nekron> someone uses amaroK?
[10:05] <jrattner1> Is there any news group that I can ask about syncing my pda smart phone and linux
[10:05] <Impotence> as i know the write is unstable
[10:06] <soundray> Impotence, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /mnt/mountpoint
[10:06] <cdubya> Impotence, read the wiki....worked like a charm here......
[10:06] <nekron> i can't play files.. i don't know what engine i must use..
[10:06] <Impotence> lol, good idear
[10:06] <U-ton> hello
[10:06] <ompaul> Impotence, can you look at the text that ubotu put on the screen it may be of some advantage to you
[10:06] <Impotence> btw, im running off a live cd
[10:06] <giova90> please speack italian
[10:07] <ompaul> !it
[10:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:07] <ompaul> giova90,    >>> /join #ubuntu-it <<
[10:07] <U-ton> are there any experts regarding sound problems online?
[10:08] <Impotence> as in sound not working?
[10:08] <butcherbird> Impotence, one way: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/something
[10:08] <Impotence> cos i have the same
[10:08] <sobersabre> hello. which kernel image best fits to work on Pentium4 D ?
[10:08] <Mabus06> lol Impotence
[10:08] <Mabus06> I doubt your two problems are the "same"
[10:08] <ompaul> U-ton, one persons expert is anothers basic, state the problem and then see what is said, btw please name your sound card
[10:08] <Mabus06> just because you both have the same generic symptom of "my sound isnt working"
[10:08] <ardchoille> This is the first distro that I have seen gdesklets installed and work correct the first time
[10:08] <Shadowflare> hey
[10:09] <ompaul> Mabus06, is there any chance you could be right :-)
[10:09] <Impotence> err..... the fact that ubuntu dont recognise my sound card/s [i have 2, it cant find ther] 
[10:09] <soundray> sobersabre, one that ends in -686-smp
[10:09] <ompaul> Impotence, turn one off in the bios and then try again
[10:09] <U-ton> i want tu use my (cheap) hauppauge tv card with bt87x chipset
[10:09] <sobersabre> isn't it an emt64 processor ?
[10:09] <Shadowflare> can someone help me with the live cd?
[10:09] <U-ton> lsmod lists the drivers but no sound with zapping
[10:10] <Shadowflare> it keeps stopping at language configuartion
[10:10] <sobersabre> soundray. isn't p4 D a 64-bit CPU ?
[10:10] <nightyna> hello
[10:10] <P8ntKid> How do i kill conky?
[10:10] <Mabus06> a gnu
[10:10] <Mabus06> gun
[10:10] <ompaul> killall programname as invoked
[10:10] <jfletcher> killall -9
[10:10] <nightyna> anyone using an IBM w/ embedded security
[10:11] <Impotence> ok...... im gona get lol'ed @ for this, ive lost the console..... where is it :)
[10:11] <Mabus06> applications>accessories>terminal   impotence
[10:11] <smo> Impotence, I think it moved from System Tools to Accessories
[10:11] <nightyna> hello
[10:11] <ompaul> Impotence, applications accessories terminal - or ctrl alt F1-6
[10:11] <mrimbert> hi OneSeventeen
[10:11] <sobersabre> nightyna what are you talking about ?
[10:11] <nightyna> im trying to setup the subsystem chip
[10:12] <Mabus06> ompaul, ah, don't torture him with teletypes yet! :D
[10:12] <Helene> Hello
[10:12] <Mabus06> ompaul, he won't know how to come back!
[10:12] <sobersabre> what is ibm w/ embedded security ?!
[10:12] <OneSeventeen> hi, any chance someone knows if there is an ubuntu package that enables the oracle functions in PHP?
[10:12] <Helene> I'd like to know how to record an audio stream (radio broadcast) , live or time-shifted
[10:12] <nightyna> IBM Laptop with the embedded security subsystem chip
[10:12] <ompaul> Mabus06, okay so just in case
[10:13] <sobersabre> nightyna finger reader ? or the "disk lock" ?
[10:13] <nightyna> I have a T42 and cannot find the right package to enable the chi[
[10:13] <ompaul> Impotence, so you can do ctrl+alt+f7 to return from the land of ctrl alt
[10:13] <nightyna> nah
[10:13] <SilentOutcast> Does ne one know why you have to order at least 5 ubuntu cds
[10:13] <smo> Helene, it's far from point'n'click, but mplayer has a -dumpstream function that can be very handy
 anyone using an IBM w/ embedded security
[10:13] <Mabus06> SilentOutcast, to spread them I would guess
[10:13] <nightyna> this is a chip that holds encrypted passwords for webforms
[10:13] <DuDE27> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[10:13] <ompaul> Silencer, cos the idea is that you spread the love
[10:14] <SilentOutcast> k
[10:14] <nightyna> dude should i look at that site
[10:14] <Helene> smo: tx. I just found out about streamtuner - will try it
[10:14] <ompaul> Silencer, sorry that was for someone else
[10:14] <DuDE27> yeah you should
[10:14] <theD3viL> How can i do partitions so i can install winxp and ubuntu together? ..
[10:14] <sobersabre> nightyna I don't know what it does. is it int the linux HCL ?!
[10:14] <DuDE27> otherwhise i wouldn't paste it ;)
[10:14] <nightyna> Yes I believe so
[10:14] <nightyna> does that mean it's installed by default
[10:14] <shad0w1e> is there any way to do a chmod -R where only the directories get an X but not the files?
[10:14] <nightyna> Thanks Dude 27
[10:15] <Seveas> shad0w1e, chmod +X instead of +x
[10:15] <sobersabre> "believe" is not the thing people use with computer... I don't believe. i either know or don't know
[10:15] <nightyna> I'll look at that
[10:15] <shad0w1e> Seveas, thanks
[10:15] <ompaul> theD3viL, if you have to do that do MS first and ubuntu second it is just a little saner and if you want a good ubuntu system give yourself at least 6G but more is better
[10:15] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  my /var/lib/apt/lists keeps getting periodically emptied by something.
[10:15] <BadMackTuck> anyone know how well the new kernel works with centrino hardware? i heard that 2.6 included drivers for it.
[10:15] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  Ideas?
[10:15] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  the machine often has no network connection.
[10:16] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, apt bug
[10:16] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  mm.  From not being plugged in?
[10:16] <Seveas> update-manager will kill your locally cached lists if it tries to update without net connection
[10:16] <verden01> can anyone tell me what packages i can install with the "backports repository"?
[10:16] <Seveas> (apt-get update too)
[10:16] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ah.  VERY annoying.
[10:16] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, indeed
[10:16] <theD3viL> omaru, nono, i wanna just install it both, dont matther which one first, just tell me with which program do partition?
[10:16] <bluefoxicy> Seveas: Kill it.
[10:16] <Seveas> fixed in dapper though :)
[10:16] <bluefoxicy> :)
[10:16] <bluefoxicy> yay!
[10:16] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  is dapper a hellhole right now?
[10:17] <Seveas> worse
[10:17] <DShepherd> lol
[10:17] <bluefoxicy> or did you guys actually manage to get the developing-but-not-breaking thing going?
[10:17] <Alex`> ack
[10:17] <smo> Seveas, that's incredibly handy (chmod +X), thanks; I've been using find -type d for *years*
[10:17] <shad0w1e> Seveas, but I only want user and group to have X, not others
[10:17] <TheBeast> can someone please tell me how to list all installed packages along with their versions?
[10:17] <Alex`> The manpage for sources.list repeatedly says "uri" instead of "url" (eye instead of ell). :|
[10:17] <ompaul> bluefoxicy, , if it is not it will be - it is in early stages can you take that to #ubuntu-offtopic :) after all this is support for the released badger
[10:18] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, Ubuntu development: for 2 months the developers go crazy and break everything while implementing new funky things, then 2 monts of stabilizing and 2 months of polish
[10:18] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I'm majorly against the idea that development should equate to anally raping a stable platform with a bunch of broken shit, then taking the hiroshimaesque result and trying to fit the pieces back together.
[10:18] <soundray> TheBeast, dpkg -l
[10:18] <Seveas> shad0w1e, chmod -R ug+X
[10:18] <Seveas> or since it's messed up already: chmod -R o-X
[10:18] <djm62> My mp3 player (sigmatel MSCN Music Player) is no longer mounted automatically as "usb mass storage" in breezy: any tips for fixing/reporting?
[10:18] <shad0w1e> Seveas, thanks!
[10:18] <shad0w1e> Seveas, actually its not,
[10:19] <shad0w1e> wow, worked like a charm!
[10:19] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ok, is there a way for me to KEEP a dhcp lease?!
[10:20] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  my laptop likes to get a lease for 192.168.1.106, then 10 minutes later change its ip to .107, then the next day to 108. . . . . it's on 116 now.
[10:20] <bloody_mary> hi there everyone!
[10:20] <sobersabre> bluefoxicy do you own DHCP server ?
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  linksys router.
[10:21] <gimmulf_> how do i enable java in firefox? i downloaded and installed jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  I thought dhcp allowed you to take a lease you have and request an extension on it
[10:21] <pepsi> you have to tell it where the java plugin is
[10:21] <bloody_mary> help: mounting an additional ntfs drive?
[10:21] <soundray> gimmulf_, Sun won't support firefox plugins in 64-bit.
[10:21] <sobersabre> bluefoxicy no. after 1/2 lease time client attempts to reget a new lease.
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  "Hi, I'm 192.168.1.107.  Could you let me not become 192.168.1.108?"
[10:22] <gimmulf_> soundray: what should i get then?
[10:22] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  after half lease time the client gets a new lease with an incrimented IP.
[10:22] <sobersabre> bluefoxicy no
[10:22] <SnakeChomp> My master mixer doesn't actually effect playback of BMPx which so far is the only media progrma i've goten anything to play in. Why isn't the system mixer level effecting its output?
[10:22] <soundray> gimmulf_, I'd like to solve that myself. Currently, I'm getting by without Java plugins.
[10:22] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  I was trying to run apt-get over ssh and it froze, I look and my IP went from 192.168.1.115 to 192.168.1.116
[10:22] <sobersabre> the client is supposed to say "hi, i am alive, please increase my lease.
[10:22] <sobersabre> "
[10:22] <SnakeChomp> muting it doesnt make a difference either
[10:22] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  yes, I want taht
[10:22] <Kyral> !prelink
[10:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[10:22] <bloody_mary> please someone, i need help mounting and using a additional hdd i added to my pc...
[10:23] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  mine started on .104 and has now reached 116 over the course of a couple months.
[10:23] <shad0w1e> ok thanks a BUNCH! Seveas, cya people
[10:23] <sobersabre> bluefoxicy what u said seems like connectivity problem.
[10:23] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  I unplug/replug the machine often; it's a laptop.
[10:23] <sobersabre> and not like dhcp server problem.
[10:23] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  dhcp client problem?
[10:23] <sobersabre> look at the dhcp logs on the router.
[10:23] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  it sounds like it might be requesting a new lease, instead of an extension on the same IP
[10:23] <mp3guy> is there a command to check the amount of free space on the root hard drive?
[10:24] <sobersabre> no, maybe there's some connectivity problem and dhcp thinks your old IP is till taken, so it giveth you a newe IP.
[10:24] <BadMackTuck> sometimes the linksys routers tend to hold onto clients after they have disconnected. at least mine does
[10:24] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  ah
[10:24] <sobersabre> BadMackTuck this sounds like a badly configured DHCP server.
[10:24] <BadMackTuck> so, to fix it (i was having other issues) i had to go static for everyone
[10:24] <aris[glande] > static ip adress in dhcp config is often useful
[10:24] <aris[glande] > too bad my hard router doesn't make it
[10:25] <sobersabre> bluefoxicy afaik, linksys routers are running linux. and I know there's a firmware with shell access over the internet for belkin routers, which are based on the same hardware.
[10:25] <BadMackTuck> sobersabre: cisco screwed it up in the newest firmware release. you can manually edit a lot of the stuff on the router
[10:25] <bluefoxicy> sobersabre:  heh.
[10:25] <sobersabre> BadMackTuck this sounds nice.
[10:25] <TheBeast> I have some strange dependencies here. I'm trying to uninstall apmd via apt-get remove --purge apmd, but apt-get also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop which I don't think it's related to apmd
[10:25] <TheBeast> any clue?
[10:25] <iamsthitha> what's the X11 headers package called?
[10:25] <sobersabre> I wish I had a shell on my wifi router.
[10:26] <BadMackTuck> sobersabre: only one linksys is linux the wrt54g i think
[10:26] <aris[glande] > BadMackTuck, that's true ?
[10:26] <sobersabre> I'd create 2 local nets.
[10:26] <aris[glande] > BadMackTuck, i updated my firmware not so long ago
[10:26] <BadMackTuck> aris[glande] : from my experience yes
[10:26] <aris[glande] > but it's a befw11s4 v3
[10:26] <BadMackTuck> aris[glande] : its the 1.5 firmware isnt it?
[10:26] <aris[glande] > an old beast ...
[10:26] <sobersabre> I wonder which kernel it runs... any ideas ?
[10:26] <sobersabre> what uname -a prints ?
[10:27] <aris[glande] > 1.45.10 Apr 15 2004
[10:27] <Seveas> TheBeast, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which can be safely remove, just make sure you have it installed when you upgrade to dapper
[10:27] <aris[glande] > the latest advised firmware
[10:27] <sobersabre> :)
[10:27] <sobersabre> is dapper already usable ?
[10:27] <TheBeast> Seveas may I ask you what's dapper?
[10:28] <sobersabre> TheBeast: next release of ubunt, i guess...
[10:28] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i'll hold off on dapper until gnome 2.14 is in beta.
[10:28] <TheBeast> sobersabre oh:)
[10:28] <Seveas> !dapper
[10:28] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[10:28] <aris[glande] > they just released the new xorg
[10:28] <aris[glande] > it *will* bug
[10:28] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i'm looking forward to firefox 1.5, thunderbird 1.5, and gnome 2.14
[10:28] <Seveas> it *does* bug :)
[10:28] <sobersabre> does anybody know of some gnome applet or tool to suspend to ram/ or standby my laptop ?
[10:28] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, FF1.5 is not that special
[10:28] <navarone> Seveas> doe sthat mean it's okay to uninstall bittorretn...I had same dependency issue with ubuntu-desktop when trying to remove it...?
[10:28] <Seveas> navarone, correct
[10:28] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: I an using firefox now on ubuntu. Running if from a folder.. pretty nice it is
[10:29] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  red hat btw has openoffice.org running with free java, we need :)
[10:29] <bluefoxicy> DShepherd:  as am I
[10:29] <navarone> okay...thnx
[10:29] <DShepherd> I am*
[10:29] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, so does Ubuntu
[10:29] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  the auto-update feature of FF1.5 is good, it updates extensions MUCH better than current firefox.
[10:29] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  the current firefox can BREAK if you try to install a new version of an installed extension.
[10:30] <helpme> Hello
[10:30] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: there is one issue I dont like.. the reording of tabs, it bugs out sometimes
[10:30] <BadMackTuck> aris[glande] : just go static addressing, its easy if you dont plug into a bunch of different nets all the time
[10:30] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, as if FX isn't broken enough already ;)
[10:30] <ssmith> smithsr93
[10:30] <aris[glande] > BadMackTuck, i have tons of network hardware
[10:30] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: you need to run it under another profile, then the current firefox wont break
[10:30] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  extensions also have new interfaces that let them do things safely; the old interfaces could create massive race conditions and other ugly things :)
[10:30] <aris[glande] > i worked too long without a dhcp
[10:30] <_jason> is there a command that will produce the same output as a double-tap of the tab button for auto-completion lists?
[10:30] <Seveas> ssmith, if that was your nickserv pass, reset it with /msg nickserv set password new_pass
[10:30] <navarone> bluefoxity> does current Firefox have a translation panel extension? I use extension in win2k...not sure what version in windows...but my ff in ubuntu is standard install version...
[10:30] <helpme> okay...is there any way in the world to not have to just use the programs that are in the synaptic package manager? like can't i just download something off the internet that is for linux and install it?
[10:31] <[Kismet] >  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 41097320
[10:31] <Seveas> helpme, sure
[10:31] <BadMackTuck> aris[glande] : that sucks. good luck with that
[10:31] <helpme> okay...HOW
[10:31] <Seveas> [Kismet] ,  /msg nickserv set password new_pass
[10:31] <bluefoxicy> DShepherd:  no, I mean, if you run firefox 1.0, install MyExtension 0.9, then install MyExtension 1.0, if MyExtension doesn't clean its old version up Firefox could fuck the install up and break the extension and possibly itself fatally.
[10:31] <Seveas> helpme, download, unpack, read instructions
[10:31] <_jason> [Kismet] , you probably want to change your password now
[10:31] <[Kismet] > I think so :)
[10:31] <bluefoxicy> DShepherd:  in FF1.5, Firefox says "I have MyExtension 0.9.  When you restart I'll remove it and install 1.0"
[10:31] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: oh sounds scary
[10:32] <helpme> okay thanks very much i'm new to linux...REALLY NEW you might see me fairly often....:)
[10:32] <bluefoxicy> BIG difference.
[10:32] <ssmith> Newbie to Ubuntu
[10:32] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: great
[10:32] <aris[glande] > BadMackTuck, i'll stick with the random' dhcp right now. it just annoys me because openssh always bitch about wrong public keys
[10:32] <helpme> um...btw where can i get unpack?
[10:32] <ssmith> Not sure of how to use this IRC channel
[10:32] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  oh neat we do, I didn't notice that.
[10:32] <aris[glande] > (I have 5 or 6 different openssh servers at home :) )
[10:32] <DShepherd> ssmith, typing is a way to start
[10:32] <BadMackTuck> thats five or six more than i have
[10:33] <Xenguy> helpme: occasionally you might want to manually download a .deb file and install with 'dpkg -i', but mostly you *want* the convenience of synaptic or apt-get
[10:33] <ssmith> Ok, thanks
[10:33] <Seveas> helpme, if you are new to linux, just stick to what synaptic gives you
[10:33] <ssmith> trying to set up kids pc w/ Ubuntu
[10:33] <Seveas> it has over 17000 packages
[10:33] <mp3guy> where can i get w32codecs and libdvdcss2?
[10:33] <Seveas> !dvd
[10:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:33] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[10:33] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:33] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  Ubuntu needs a SimpleNaptic or something.
[10:33] <ssmith> Normally I am RH person, but too bloated Ubuntu quicker
[10:33] <gimmulf_> soundray: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[10:33] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, such as applications -> add applications?
[10:33] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  screw having 17000 packages; give me "Office" "Grahics" "Games"
[10:33] <helpme> i have the capagbilitilies to learn what i need to do so just tell me please...how do you do the dpkg command.....what would you type for example
[10:34] <ssmith> how do I install Java
[10:34] <aris[glande] > hmm, no package for nocatauth :(
[10:34] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, I repeat the last sentence :)
[10:34] <dapperisdrake> !javadebs
[10:34] <ubotu> hmm... javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:34] <[Kismet] > Which patches are made by ubuntu breezy to vanillia kernel?
[10:34] <ssmith> cannot fine fakeroot command
[10:34] <Seveas> ssmith, sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[10:34] <Seveas> ssmith, sudo apt-get install java-package (for make-jpkg)
[10:34] <Xenguy> helpme: dpkg -i packagename
[10:34] <helpme> like the filename?
[10:35] <Xenguy> helpme: yes
[10:35] <helpme> thanksmuch
[10:35] <dapperisdrake> yankees sucks
[10:35] <Red-Sox> hi
[10:35] <Red-Sox> for some reason, FireFox wont open for me! Opera works fine, though
[10:35] <osh> Since every selection I've done so far has been wrong. What's the correct cups-driver for a HP LaserJet4L? It's connected via the serial port.
[10:36] <Seveas> printer on serial
[10:36] <Seveas> woah...
[10:36] <TheBeast> serial?
[10:36] <TheBeast> maybe parallel
[10:36] <Seveas> osh, the add printer thing in the menu will suggest a driver
[10:36] <Seveas> take that one
[10:36] <osh> Seveas: Right, not serial. Paralell.
[10:36] <_jason> Red-Sox, you may have an instance of firefox already running, try: killall firefox-bin
[10:36] <soundray> gimmulf_, will that ruin my 1.5 installation, though?
[10:37] <soundray> gimmulf_, I mean j2sdk1.5
[10:37] <osh> Seveas: I'm not in  X here. I'm doing the cups-web-gui.
[10:37] <Seveas> osh, ah, sec
[10:38] <Seveas> for my laserjet 5l it uses ljet4
[10:38] <Seveas> might very well apply to the 4l too
[10:38] <soundray> Sorry, I forgot, who was asking about a kernel for Pentium D CPUs earlier?
[10:38] <Red-Sox> _jason: thank you so so so so much!
might very well apply to</strike> works for the 4l too
[10:38] <_jason> Red-Sox, yw
[10:38] <bluefoxicy> aww
[10:38] <gimmulf_> soundray:  im not sure
[10:38] <bluefoxicy> I was trying to make llvm compile the linux kernel ;)
[10:38] <bluefoxicy> it cried :)
[10:39] <Seveas> :)
[10:39] <Seveas> apt-get install tissue
[10:39] <Seveas> ;)
[10:39] <glouph> Is there some way I can access my debian file system using the ubuntu live CD ?
[10:39] <osh> Seveas: So I should select the "AppSocket/HP JetDirect" in the setup menu?
[10:39] <glouph> To backup my files
[10:40] <bluefoxicy> glouph:  mount it
[10:40] <Seveas> osh, -ENOCLUE (never used the cups web thing and I sure as hell am not a printer guru)
[10:40] <glouph> I tried but it says "already mounted or busy"
[10:40] <bluefoxicy> what command did you use
[10:40] <glouph> I did mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mnt/oldfs but it doesnt work :|
[10:41] <bluefoxicy> dev sda?
[10:41] <bluefoxicy> you used a whole hard disk unpartitioned?
[10:41] <glouph> Yes
[10:41] <glouph> Uh
[10:41] <bluefoxicy> rather than sda1?
[10:41] <Paradosso> !mplayer
[10:41] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:41] <Xenguy> aj_: I would get several 2nd opinions on your question
[10:41] <Paradosso> !msttcorefonts
[10:41] <soundray> glouph, bluefoxicy, it should mount existing partitions automatically.
[10:41] <soundray> glouph, I get desktop icons for all my partitions when I boot Ubuntu live.
[10:41] <ubotu> methinks msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[10:41] <helpme> i tried to use  that command yall told me and it said i needed super user privilages
[10:41] <butcherbird> glouph, type 'mount' showing already mounted?
[10:41] <DShepherd> glouph: try sudo
[10:41] <Seveas> omg, who F*ed up ubotu
[10:41] <ubuntu> any suggestions for a laptop???  no to expensive may be betwen 600 and 900 dollars
[10:41] <Paradosso> !screen
[10:41] <ubotu> I guess screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935   and   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen)  AND  http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[10:42] <osh> Seveas: Ok, I've done some crap now. Let's see if that works. Might you tell me how I can see which printer driver it uses?
[10:42] <glouph> 'moun't doesn't show it already mounted
[10:42] <Seveas> msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[10:42] <Seveas> !no msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[10:42] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[10:42] <glouph> I sudo'ed
[10:42] <matrix-ubuntu> hi
[10:42] <[Kismet] > Can I  use SATA HD as root for my kernel if I remove initrd?
[10:42] <matrix-ubuntu> i just installed ubuntu
[10:42] <matrix-ubuntu> how to i install gcc
[10:42] <bluefoxicy> !no!  Bad bot!
[10:42] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:42] <Seveas> [Kismet] , removing initrd is always bad
[10:42] <glouph> soundray, you are lucky :|
[10:42] <bluefoxicy> !botsnack
[10:42] <ubotu> :)
[10:42] <Seveas> !lart bluefoxicy
[10:43] <matrix-ubuntu> hello
[10:43] <ajmitch_> Seveas: stop playing with the bot
[10:43] <Seveas> matrix-ubuntu, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:43] <Seveas> ajmitch_, :)
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Seveas: msttcorefonts - I think your correction  still has a typo
[10:43] <[Kismet] > Seveas, why removing initrd is always bad? Even if I recompile my own kernel?
[10:43] <ajmitch_> Seveas: I'd hate to have to call an op to kick you :)
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ah sorry - misread
[10:43] <trappist> Seveas: why is removing initrd always bad
[10:43] <Seveas> ajmitch_, you ARE an op iirc
[10:43] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  you know you can have the same trade name as another company if you're in different technology fields, right?
[10:43] <ajmitch_> Seveas: sure :)
[10:43] <hav0k> does anyone know anything about gDesklets?
[10:43] <[Kismet] > hav0k, whay you want to know?
[10:44] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i.e. Hershey's Creamery, Hershey's Chocolate?  Different companies, not affiliated.
[10:44] <helpme> it said i needed super user pricilages...how do i get those....i'm the admin of my computer
[10:44] <osh> Seveas: You da man. Now it works. Thanks for the pointers. =)
[10:44] <_jason> ubotu, tell helpme about sudo
[10:44] <hav0k> i made it so the tray icon wouldnt show up, but now i dont know how to go back and configure it
[10:44] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ponder:  Trojan Anti-Virus?  :D
[10:44] <DShepherd> helpme: use sudo before the command
[10:44] <Seveas> osh, glad I could help and that it actually worked instead of mess up more :)
[10:44] <gimmulf_> Is the amd64 ubuntu dist called Hoary?
[10:45] <bluefoxicy> gimmulf_:  breezy.
[10:45] <Seveas> gimmulf_, Hoary is the old version, Breezy is the latest
[10:45] <gimmulf_> oki
[10:45] <bluefoxicy> gimmulf_:  I recommend dapper.  *hides*
[10:45] <ubuntu> matrix-ubuntu,    check this out   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[10:45] <Red-Sox> how do you PM ubotu?
[10:46] <Seveas> Red-Sox, the same way as you PM any other person or bot
[10:46] <bluefoxicy> Red-Sox:  Ubotu will automatically pm you if you a/s/l it.
[10:46] <dapperisdrake> Red-Sox: /msg ubotu <question>
[10:46] <helpme> okay it worked thnx for the help....
[10:46] <Red-Sox> oh
[10:46] <bluefoxicy> gimmulf_:  you do know I was kidding about dapper, right?  :)
[10:47] <trappist> Seveas: why is removing initrd always bad?
[10:47] <bdb84> hello
[10:47] <Seveas> trappist, you need it for booting...
[10:47] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  because it has the sata/ide drivers to control your physical hard disk
[10:48] <trappist> Seveas: generally only if your fs drivers are compiled as modules
[10:48] <hav0k> [Kismet] , do you know anything about gDesktlets?
[10:48] <Seveas> trappist, ubuntu uses minimalistic kernels with a lot in modules
[10:48] <[Kismet] > hav0k, try to ask
[10:48] <Seveas> including IDE drivers and all filesystems
[10:49] <hav0k> i made it so the tray icon wouldnt show up, but now i dont know how to go back and configure it
[10:49] <Seveas> hav0k, gdesklets --shell
[10:49] <Seveas> an change it back :)
[10:49] <[Kismet] > Seveas, ok I know that, but if I compile my own kernel there is no need for the initrd, isn't it?
[10:49] <seife> Why when i click on updates icon it tells me this Unable to get exclusive lock
[10:49] <seife> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[10:49] <Seveas> [Kismet] , unless you want usplash
[10:49] <babag> just installed ubuntu and have no mouse or keyboard function.
[10:49] <trappist> [Kismet] : if you make sure you have everything you need to boot compiled in
[10:49] <hav0k> oh, thanks Seveas
[10:49] <ClayG> any simple straight forward port scanners like ultrascanner?
[10:49] <ClayG> but for nix?
[10:50] <matrix-ubuntu> i am tryin to install libdbnet1.7 i get this error http://pastebin.com/441481
[10:50] <Seveas> seife, close synaptic, apt-get or whatever installer is open
[10:50] <ClayG> that will let you scan ranges?
[10:50] <ClayG> gui
[10:50] <trappist> ClayG: nmap
[10:50] <Seveas> ClayG, nmap
[10:50] <trappist> ClayG: there's like a dozen gui frontends for nmap
[10:50] <babag> how does one get around that kind of problem?
[10:50] <ClayG> anything better than nmapfe?
[10:50] <trappist> 'better' is pretty much personal taste
[10:50] <ClayG> woudl you tell me one besides nmapfe?
[10:50] <ClayG> a name of one
[10:51] <seife> Seveas, there is not of them opened
[10:51] <seife> The problem is, when i was instaling, on the final lap, like 70% my comp just got too hot and went off.
[10:51] <[Kismet] > Seveas, usplash is the only patch done by ubuntu to the vanillia kernel?
[10:51] <seife> When i turned up, i dunno why i could get into ubuntu, lolz
[10:52] <sladen> [Kismet] : usplash is userspace.  no patch!
[10:52] <ubuntu> matrix-ubuntu,  check this is call automatix  This is a graphical interface for installation of a lot of apps on UBUNTU BREEZY   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[10:52] <ssmith> Seveas;  I cannot sudo apt-get install java-package : package not found:  Why?
[10:52] <rdancer> why can't totem handle video/mpeg nor audio/x-ac3 in the default install?
[10:52] <Seveas> [Kismet] , it's not a kernel patch, it's early userspace
[10:52] <trappist> ClayG: http://pages.infinit.net/rewind/
[10:52] <Seveas> ssmith, enable multiverse
[10:52] <Siph0n> hey.... is there a quick howto to set up a bluetooth mouse in ubuntu? i tryed searching the forum, but no luck :(
[10:52] <ClayG> trappist, thanks
[10:53] <seife> Seveas, any suggest?
[10:53] <ssmith> Seveas, multiverse is under synaptic?
[10:54] <Seveas> ssmith, yes
[10:54] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, does anyone know if TV tuner cards can be used under linux and what software I would need to use
[10:55] <londonboi2k3> oh and im using the hybrid+fm pci avertv card
[10:55] <butcherbird> londonboi2k3, have u looked at mythtv?
[10:56] <seife> Seveas, any suggest?
[10:56] <londonboi2k3> butcherbird, no, what is it?
[10:56] <DShepherd> ssmith: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse <-- tells you how to enable multiversse
[10:57] <[Kismet] > londonboi2k3, which kind of TV tuner? DVB? or Analog Television? For DVB you can use Kaffeine or Xine
[10:57] <matrix-ubuntu> so when when i want to install software i do sudo ./configure
[10:57] <Seveas> NO
[10:57] <Seveas> NEVER run configure or make as root
[10:57] <duckduckduck> only run make install as root
[10:57] <keikoz1> ...
[10:57] <Ennei> can an ex-Slackware newb ask a silly question?
[10:57] <definity> hey evreyone
[10:57] <keikoz1> where is the pbl telling gnight ???
[10:57] <londonboi2k3> [Kismet] , its DVB, im in the UK and its a AVerTV Hybrid+FM
[10:57] <definity> how do you list all the command in konsole?
[10:57] <keikoz1> fuck
[10:57] <definity> is there a way
[10:58] <cyberdurand> 
[10:58] <definity> any one know?
[10:58] <[Kismet] > londonboi2k3, so I think that the best choice will be Kaffeine. MythTV instead is a project that transform your machine to a Media Center
[10:58] <_jason> definity, tap tab twice
[10:59] <bluefoxicy> Why the heck is ssh -X working to 192.168.1.50 but not .116
[10:59] <bluefoxicy> both ubuntu breezy
[10:59] <bluefoxicy> $DISPLAY isn't getting set >:|
[10:59] <definity> thanks jason :)
[10:59] <londonboi2k3> [Kismet] , ok, but how do I get it working? is there drivers that I need or anything like that
[10:59] <[Kismet] > londonboi2k3, whit Kaffeine you'll get automatic scanning of the channel for the "known location"
[10:59] <gimmulf_> h, i've installed blackdown and the java plugin for FF is at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so  but i cant find "java" option in the Extensions
[10:59] <DaveRag> Anyone been able to install the integrated wireless card in the Dell Inspiron 9200 laptop for Ubuntu?
[11:00] <[Kismet] > londonboi2k3, are you using breezy?
[11:00] <londonboi2k3> [Kismet] , im using dapper on this pc, like finding bugs ;)
[11:00] <Ennei> is it possible to install a .deb Ubuntu package and have all the dependencies?
[11:00] <Ennei> resolved...?
[11:00] <duckduckduck> it's not an extension it's a plugin
[11:01] <rdancer> should totem *not* handle AC3 and MPEG streams by default? what am i doing wrong??
[11:01] <[Kismet] > londonboi2k3, ok so you have to "dmesg | grep dvb" and report the bugs
[11:01] <[Kismet] > sorry I mean report the output :)
[11:01] <l3m> i'm trying to get my ati card's tv out to work with ubuntu, but no matter what i try, it's always black and white on the tv. the same tv works fine with another computer with an nvidia card. i used fglrx drivers, downloaded with apt. any ideas?
[11:02] <xored> what is mean by "x- includes ?
[11:02] <[Kismet] > Stupid question: which are the difference between root (hd0,0) command inside GRUB and the root=/dev/sda7 param give to the kernel?
[11:03] <xored> what is mean by "x- includes" X-server inludes, but where are they normaly located ?
[11:03] <dcm> Does anyone have success with sound in Breezy - mine worked with Hoary, but silence in Breezy
[11:03] <LMX2> hmm, what was the command to bring forward stopped proceses?
[11:04] <davro> Im using ubuntu breezy, gtk-gnutella show that the version is somewhat old and should be upgraded, could this be upgraded using apt, or is the a better P2P app than this ?
[11:04] <[Kismet] > dcm sure mine was working with hoary and breezy
[11:04] <LMX2> dcm, does any output(esd/alsa/oss) plugin work or none?
[11:04] <[Kismet] > LMX2 fg
[11:05] <LMX2> [Kismet] , ah, thanks
[11:05] <dcm> Nothing works - the sound card is detected, drivers show as loaded, sound is not muted.
[11:05] <DaveRag> My Inspiron 9200 wireless card looks like it gets a IPv6 address but not a IPv4 add (i can detect the networks fine)
[11:05] <[Kismet] > LMX2 instead you can us "bg &" to let run on background
[11:05] <divineomega> Hi. I'm using the very latest version of Ubuntu and I can't add any more applications? They are grayed out.
[11:06] <[Kismet] > DaveRag, have you tryed with "ifconfig" command?
[11:06] <LMX2> [Kismet] , how do you mean, bg command &?
[11:06] <djm62> in breezy, my sigmatel MSCN Music Player no longer mounts automatically as Usb Mass Storage: how can I change this, and where can I report it
[11:06] <Siph0n> i almost got bluetooth working... but when i do the hidd --connect <mac address> , it says Cant get device information: Success
[11:06] <Siph0n> ne ideas? it says success but it isnt workin :)
[11:06] <djm62> (when I try to mount it, I get something about UDI)
[11:06] <DaveRag> [kismet]  yeah that's the command that tells me i have only a ipv6 add
[11:07] <LMX2> dcm, try running alsamixer in a terminal and see if the masterm, headphone or pcm sliders are muted
[11:07] <[Kismet] > Siph0n, is hidden or discoverable the BT device?
[11:07] <Red-Sox> in the ubuntu forums, why does it say 5 cups of ubuntu for someone who only has 3?
[11:08] <[Kismet] > DaveRag, and have you tryed with ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 (assuming that eth0 is the interface without IPv4)
[11:08] <Siph0n> [Kismet] : what u mean hidden or discoverable? its a bluetooth mouse
[11:08] <dcm> I ran als mixer - no master volume shows up, nor pcm. Headphones are not muted - but I've tried the headset both muted and not.
[11:08] <GNAM> GNUBUNTU RULEZ!
[11:08] <DaveRag> [kismet]  it says permission denied
[11:08] <GNAM> is gnubuntu withous apache?
[11:08] <Mart> hi all
[11:08] <GNAM> without
[11:09] <[Kismet] > LMX2 for example if you do sudo synaptic and then you press CTRL+Z so synaptic is stoped and then try with "bg &" to see what happen
[11:09] <Mart> Im sure you all get this all the time... but anyone have 2 mins to spare, nice easy question
[11:09] <[Kismet] > LMX2, you'll get synaptic running and the prompt working
[11:09] <LMX2> [Kismet] , ah, i see, thanks
[11:09] <[Kismet] > DaveRag, try with sudo before the command
[11:09] <thoreauputic> Mart: just ask, don't ask to ask
[11:09] <Mart> lol
[11:09] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:10] <Mart> right... extreamly new to linux
[11:10] <LMX2> dcm, thats weird, the first slider isnt master?
[11:10] <Mart> installed fine. after login i get a very tiny sqaure of colours
[11:10] <dcm> no, the first slider is bass.
[11:10] <[Kismet] > Siph0n, the BT device can be see by only certain device that are already paired with them in that case the are in "hidden" mode
[11:10] <Mart> I guess its the drivers for for my graphics
[11:10] <DaveRag> [kismet]  ok well now it displays that address but connection still doesn't work...
[11:11] <Mart> but i cannot install the run file for graphics as i get the error i need binutils
[11:11] <Siph0n> [Kismet] : so how do i see if my dongle is paired with the mouse?
[11:11] <LMX2> dcm, hmm, you can use the right/left cursor to check if there any master/pcm sliders
[11:11] <Mart> which i cannot find or install
[11:11] <Paradosso> I need a simple yet powerful HTML editor to manage my site under ubuntu. Which one do you advise?
[11:11] <R0bNyc> how can I get Xubuntu on my ubuntu ? and also kubuntu :)
[11:11] <Mart> where do i find it... how do i install it into the right place
[11:12] <ClayG> trappist during ./configure when trying to get knmap working I got an  error
[11:12] <[Kismet] > Siph0n, I haven't had a BT mouse before, you should read the manual of the BT mouse. Anyway my are just guessing for solution of your trouble
[11:12] <ClayG> do you have time to take a quick look?
[11:12] <Siph0n> k kool :)
[11:12] <Siph0n> think i got it
[11:12] <ClayG> or anyone for that matter, I dont yet have the compiling down pat
[11:12] <dcm> I've tried that - I even went so far as to put hoary back on - sound worked right off the bat. Put Breezy back on and no sound, no master slider, no pcm slider.
[11:12] <[Kismet] > DaveRag, which test have you done to understand that network is not working?
[11:13] <dcm> According to the various commands, the EV1938 is there, the ens_1371 drivers are loaded.
[11:13] <ClayG> http://rafb.net/paste/results/gyuFau12.html
[11:13] <seife> Someone help me configuring my wireless network please..
[11:14] <nishiroyato> i want to configure speedstep settings for my laptop.  ive read something about GNOME 2 panel but dont know how to open it or access it or if its even what im looking for
[11:14] <djm62> seife: describe your network, your card, and how far you've got
[11:14] <Paradosso> Hi everybody, I need a simple yet powerful HTML editor to manage my site under ubuntu. Which one do you advise?
[11:14] <helix_> Paradosso, bluefish
[11:15] <Esers> GOT IT
[11:15] <Esers> have ubuntu
[11:15] <Mart> Trying to install nvidia graphics drivers i get the error that it cannot find binutils in my "ID" anyone know a way past
[11:15] <Esers> claps hands jumps up
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Paradosso: if you want WYSIWYG, nvu - if not there are lots of others like bluefish (or even vim ;) )
[11:15] <Mart> or where to get binutils... all this in the recovery console
[11:15] <Esers> says: UBUNTU ROCKS!
[11:15] <thoreauputic> !info nvu
[11:15] <Esers> but problems! How to gain access to windows hard drives?
[11:16] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[11:16] <oxez> Mart: what if you try 'sudo apt-get install binutils' ?
[11:16] <LMX2> dcm, sorry, mi clueless, try searching the forums
[11:16] <bluefoxicy> in dapper, anyone know the problem with libpangocairo?
[11:16] <oxez> woo
[11:16] <LMX2> dcm, im*
[11:16] <Esers> anyone
[11:16] <butcherbird> Esers, example: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[11:16] <nishiroyato> how can i access the CPU frequency panel in Gnome?
[11:16] <dcm> Thanks, I tried the forums - it seems there are lots of users with different sound cards with no sound in breezy.
[11:17] <Mart> okey just to warn you... i have no idea what you just typed!
[11:17] <bluefoxicy> rhythmbox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string
[11:17] <butcherbird> Esers, type sudo fdisk -l to get the partition info, hda1 or hda2 etc
[11:17] <Mart> thankyou though, I can find out what sudo means
[11:17] <Esers> for examp if my win c: is hdc1 then: sudo mount -o unmask=0000 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc
[11:17] <Esers> ?
[11:17] <butcherbird> Esers, should work
[11:17] <djm62> mart: sudo allows you to do a command with administrator privileges
[11:17] <Esers> ok i'll give it a try
[11:18] <Esers> p.s. no problems with ntfs?
[11:18] <Mart> ahh... i see
[11:18] <alex4084__> #sucre
[11:18] <bluefoxicy> ah, it needs newer glib.
[11:18] <Mart> sorry, litterly the fist time ive ever install or even looked at linux :P
[11:18] <butcherbird> Esers, that is a format for ntfs but it wont allow u to write
[11:18] <butcherbird> Esers, only read
[11:18] <LMX2> Esers, you probably need to tell it what filetyp it is with: -t ntfs
[11:18] <Esers> yeah tha i know
[11:18] <djm62> Mart: hope you aren't finding it too jarring ;)
[11:18] <Esers> just know that fact that using writing tools you can fuck up your hd
[11:19] <LMX2> Esers, also, add the ,ro after umask=0000
[11:19] <Mart> haha
[11:19] <Mart> beautiful pun
[11:19] <afabian> I installed XP on FAT32.  I keep windows around 'just in case.'
[11:19] <Mart> thanks for the help... linux on another partition, so g'buy :)
[11:20] <fabiob> Somebody with problems with galeon, in dapper?
[11:20] <Paradoxx> what remote login software would you all recommend?
[11:20] <Esers> got back
[11:20] <djm62> Paradoxx: ssh, or vnc
[11:21] <Red-Sox> fabbione: im not sure, but I dont think you are supposed to talk about dapper here
[11:21] <afabian> Paradoxx, openssh!
[11:21] <Esers> sudo mount -o unmask=0000 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc = /mnt/winc does not exist
[11:21] <Esers> ????
[11:21] <NoUse> Esers have you created that directory?
[11:21] <Paradoxx> gui wise?
[11:21] <IcemanV9> sudo mkdir /mnt/winc
[11:22] <Esers> oh ok!
[11:22] <Esers> thanks
[11:22] <djm62> Paradoxx: it depends...vnc will give you a gui from anywhere with java, ssh will give you a gui from anywhere with X
[11:22] <Esers> permmision denied!
[11:22] <londonboi2k3> Hello guys, does anyone here run a radeon 9200 ati card on ubuntu? I cant seem to get mine to work with the xorg drivers
[11:22] <djm62> Paradoxx: ssh doesn't depend on X, or even graphics
[11:23] <NoUse> londonboi2k3 I dont think that card is supported by the xorg drivers, you probably need the ati drivers
[11:23] <NoUse> !ati
[11:23] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:23] <Esers> is in ubuntu root pass the same as user?
[11:23] <IcemanV9> Esers: with sudo?!?
[11:23] <blue-frog> djm62, can i pm you about ssh and X?
[11:24] <Esers> no with mkdir
[11:24] <NoUse> Esers root is disabled in ubuntu, you just use sudo
[11:24] <londonboi2k3> in xorg.cof, its got the driver as ati, should it be radeon? NoUse, it is perfectly supported, I used it with breezy, but since using dapper its not working :)
[11:24] <sobersabre> does anybody in here use Pentium4 D (64-bit) CPU ?
[11:24] <Esers> ok
[11:24] <Esers> the
[11:24] <djm62> blue-frog: you could do, but I'd prefer you discussed in channel
[11:24] <NoUse> londonboi2k3 thats probably due to dapper
[11:24] <Esers> how to create the directory in mnt
[11:24] <Esers> ?
[11:24] <NoUse> Esers sudo mkdir /mnt/winc
[11:24] <Esers> with sudo?
[11:24] <Esers> ok!
[11:24] <Esers> :D
[11:24] <Esers> thanks!
[11:24] <djm62> (apart from anything else, I'm waiting for an answer)
[11:24] <[Kismet] > Esers, just need the right to create the directory
[11:24] <Esers> been using mandriva so....
[11:25] <londonboi2k3> NoUse, yeah this is quite possible, just wanted to have some fun and try to break it (dapper) :)
[11:25] <seife> Someone help me to get wireless network working please please please
[11:25] <[Kismet] > Esers, so you  probabily need to use the command sudo before the mkdir
[11:25] <NoUse> londonboi2k3 from what I've heard, dapper doesn't need much help breaking itself
[11:25] <djm62> seife: I asked you a while ago to describe the network, your card, and how far you've got
[11:25] <blue-frog> djm62, ok but it's not a ubuntu question... what do you need to activate in ssh conf to launch X on computer 2 when accessing computer 1?
[11:25] <londonboi2k3> NoUse, well I am not having many problems with it, everything works perfectly so far, only one bug report
[11:26] <londonboi2k3> :)
[11:26] <Esers> $ sudo mount -o unmask=0000 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc
[11:26] <Esers> mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /mnt/winc busy
[11:26] <Esers> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc1 is mounted on /media/hdc1
[11:26] <Esers> krists@ubuntuhome:~$
[11:26] <Esers> ???
[11:26] <Seveas> Esers, whatever the problem is: DON'T PASTE
[11:26] <Esers> ok ok
[11:26] <oxez> Esers: umount /mnt/winc
[11:26] <oxez> Esers: with sudo
[11:26] <oxez> hm nvm, sudo umount /media/winc , sorry
[11:27] <seife> djm62, im using a Intersil Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset, i set DHCP, and ssid, and i still dont have wireless internet
[11:27] <Esers> ok
[11:27] <Esers> and then again mount?
[11:27] <seife> djm62, i want internet with wireless
[11:27] <Lord_Athur> I'm editing the settings of my user in wiki, but what does "User CSS URL" correspond to?
[11:27] <IcemanV9> well, Esers, it IS mounted at /media/hdc1 .. look in there :)
[11:27] <ssmith> question for installing java to firefox
[11:27] <djm62> seife: did you set essid, THEN dhcp ?
[11:27] <[Kismet] > Hi have 2 network interface on my laptop eth0 and eth1 how can I ensure that eth0 will be every time the same physical interface?
[11:27] <Esers> permission denied
[11:27] <Seveas> Lord_Athur, leave it empty :)
[11:27] <ssmith> create symbolic link?
[11:27] <Comrade_Vladimir> crimsun r u on?
[11:27] <djm62> seife: is your card detected correctly?
[11:27] <DShepherd> Esers: sudo command
[11:27] <Esers> what sudo
[11:28] <DShepherd> !sudo
[11:28] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:28] <Esers> sudo /media/hdc1 ?
[11:28] <[Kismet] > !kernel
[11:28] <fabiob> Esers, look in /media/hdc1
[11:28] <Esers> to gain permanent access
[11:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> how long does it usually take to get the ubuntu disks in the mail
[11:28] <IcemanV9> [Kismet] : hm, you might want to check the file > /etc/network/interfaces
[11:28] <opnsrc> I inserted a DVD in my drive and ti loaded Totem Movie player and it didn't play
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir: mine took about 6 weeks
[11:29] <Seveas> !no sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:29] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[11:29] <opnsrc> It just sat there and did nothing with a blank screen. How do I fix it, do I need to add drivers, regions, or anything?
[11:29] <Comrade_Vladimir> jeez
[11:29] <Comrade_Vladimir> where do u live
[11:29] <opnsrc> it *
[11:29] <seife> djm62, i just clicked on activate but nothing tells me like windows "wireless lan detected" etc..
[11:29] <fabiob> opnsrc, try movie -> play disc
[11:29] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir:  .au
[11:29] <[Kismet] > IcemanV9, I've already looked there... :(
[11:29] <djm62> seife: can you open a terminal?
[11:29] <opnsrc> I tried
[11:29] <opnsrc> it says playing
[11:29] <opnsrc> but it's not
[11:29] <DShepherd> Esers: sudo  command  /media/hd**
[11:29] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir: I don't think where you live has much influence on the time
[11:29] <Comrade_Vladimir> i live in north america part time so longer huh
[11:29] <Loevborg> Is dictionary.reference.com painfully slow for you, too? e.g. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=treachery
[11:30] <Comrade_Vladimir> yea travel time
[11:30] <Esers> :(
[11:30] <oxez> Esers: yea sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/winc
[11:30] <djm62> seife: and type iwconfig and ifconfig
[11:30] <djm62> to get quick diagnostics
[11:30] <IcemanV9> [Kismet] : ah. i don't know what else to say .. hope someone else do :(
[11:30] <fabiob> opnsrc, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[11:30] <opnsrc> GT Streamer
[11:30] <[Kismet] > where can I find information related to udev?
[11:30] <opnsrc> GSTreamer
[11:30] <opnsrc> sorry
[11:30] <Esers> :(
[11:31] <fabiob> opnsrc, try to install totem-xine, it is more complete atm
[11:31] <oxez> !tell [Kismet]  about udev
[11:31] <Esers> sometimes linux ir just pain in the ass!
[11:31] <trappist> [Kismet] : do the two cards use the same driver, or no?
[11:31] <opnsrc> ok thanks
[11:31] <fabiob> opnsrc, np
[11:31] <[Kismet] > trappist, no
[11:31] <dbarbi1> can anybody get resume to work after installing the ati driver?
[11:31] <opnsrc> If I install a new kernel, one made for the 686 instead of the one I have on there for the 386
[11:31] <[Kismet] > trappist, they are using different driver
[11:31] <opnsrc> will it automatically choose the one for the 686 after installation?
[11:31] <trappist> Kimppa: load the drivers in the desired order (first will be eth0) in /etc/modules
[11:31] <devint> Is there a way to freaking get bayesian filtering or something in evolution? I'm tired of manually marking all my mail as junk, I need to train a filter
[11:31] <opnsrc> (even though both are installed)?
[11:31] <zeeble> someone suggest a place to grab a good sources.list after a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.10
[11:32] <DShepherd> Esers: people say that when they lack knowledge, I guess you are new... so your forgiven. Dont say that
[11:32] <oxez> opnsrc: you can choose which one you want to boot with with GRUB
[11:32] <oxez> when you reboot
[11:32] <DShepherd> again*
[11:32] <opnsrc> I don't know how to do that
[11:32] <opnsrc> I don't even have Grub installed
[11:32] <trappist> devint: I believe spamassassin can be made to work with evolution
[11:32] <oxez> opnsrc: are you sure?
[11:32] <mrkoje> how do I edit my $path file
[11:32] <djm62> blue-frog: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config set X11Forwarding to Yes
[11:32] <opnsrc> Or maybe
[11:32] <afabian> devint, I haven't used evolution, but I imagine it can read from standard UNIX spools or maildirs.  Set up an MTA and use spamassassin or dspam.
[11:32] <opnsrc> But it's not a GUi then
[11:32] <opnsrc> it just boots
[11:32] <oxez> opnsrc: nah
[11:32] <djm62> blue-frog: on the machine that you ssh into
[11:33] <oxez> opnsrc: when you boot your computer, do you see a screen where you can select which OS to boot?
[11:33] <opnsrc> nope
[11:33] <oxez> do you have more than one OS on your computer?
[11:33] <opnsrc> yeah, but each one is on a different HD
[11:33] <kjon> I have problems with e2fsck. It says that some of my files have duplicate blocks and a message like <file metadata> appears. What does that mean? Are my files damaged?
[11:33] <opnsrc> I just switch from the Bios
[11:33] <oxez> oh ok
[11:33] <oxez> opnsrc: I'd try to install the new kernel, and reboot
[11:34] <opnsrc> My question is will it automatically use the best kernel for my processor
[11:34] <opnsrc> even though synpatic shows many are installed
[11:34] <oxez> you will have to choose which one to boot
[11:34] <dbarbi1> does anyone have sleep/resume working after installing the ati video driver?
[11:34] <opnsrc> How do I do that/
[11:34] <opnsrc> ?
[11:34] <oxez> opnsrc: Did you reboot since you installed the other kernels?
[11:34] <opnsrc> Nope, they're still installing
[11:34] <kjon> Any hints with e2fsck please... I need to save my anime T-T
[11:34] <opnsrc> Will it ask?
[11:35] <oxez> opnsrc: Then, once they're installed, reboot and you'll probably see a screen with multiple kernels
[11:35] <opnsrc> Cool
[11:35] <oxez> 'probably' :P
[11:35] <opnsrc> Will that screen always come up or just the first time?
[11:35] <oxez> Always
[11:35] <oxez> But, you can remove other kernel afterwards
[11:35] <opnsrc> Thanks
[11:36] <djm62> seife`: is it working?
[11:36] <kjon> anyone can help me???
[11:36] <seife> djm62, help :'(
[11:36] <Comrade_Vladimir> is there a ctrl alt del like function on ubuntu
[11:36] <seife> djm62, its activated
[11:37] <seife> but i dont have wireless internet
[11:37] <matrix-ubuntu> i am tryin to save a file on usr i get error no permission
[11:37] <oxez> Comrade_Vladimir: yes, check out Automatix in the forums
[11:37] <seife> djm62, know what i mean?
[11:37] <noobs_piss_me_of> control alt backspace
[11:37] <matrix-ubuntu> i am the admin
[11:37] <djm62> seife: still not specific enough
[11:37] <noobs_piss_me_of> logs you out
[11:37] <seife> djm62, whats ur question
[11:37] <oxez> Comrade_Vladimir: that little app configures ctrl-alt-del for you
[11:37] <djm62> seife: can you right click on the background and bring up a terminal?
[11:37] <Esers> :( why can' t ubuntu mount win hdd by default!?!?!? :(
[11:38] <oxez> Esers: it does..
[11:38] <seife> djm62, ok know what.
[11:38] <djm62> seife: (not nice, but easier to describe on irc)
[11:38] <oxez> What's your /etc/fstab line?
[11:38] <Esers> yeah it does but u can' t use them
[11:38] <matrix-ubuntu> i am tryin to save a file on usr i get error
[11:38] <noobs_piss_me_of> control alt f2 is terminal
[11:38] <butcherbird> Esers, it should but I dont think it handles ntfs well always
[11:38] <DShepherd> oxez: it doesnt
[11:38] <Esers> even mandrake 10 did
[11:38] <Esers> this is newer
[11:38] <oxez> DShepherd: ?
[11:38] <opnsrc> cool, thanks
[11:38] <noobs_piss_me_of> its the kernel
[11:38] <matrix-ubuntu> i am tryin to save a file on usr i get error  any ideas why
[11:38] <Comrade_Vladimir> oxez no just the task manager?
[11:38] <DShepherd> It doesnt mount on initial install
[11:39] <DShepherd> you have to edit the fstab.. or mount it your self
[11:39] <djm62> seife: oh, then type ifconfig
[11:39] <seife> djm62, what do i have to type,
[11:39] <oxez> DShepherd: oh yes
[11:39] <Esers> ok how can i get access to the mouted hdd
[11:39] <Esers> ?
[11:39] <djm62> seife: and iwconfig
[11:39] <Esers> they are mounted in media
[11:39] <Esers> but no permission
[11:39] <[Kismet] > Esers, have you tryed the GUI from Administration -> Disks
[11:39] <butcherbird> Esers, u need the umask option
[11:39] <oxez> Esers: look at my fstab line: /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[11:40] <oxez> If you're using NTFS you'll just be able to read that partition, no write access (dangerous)
[11:40] <Esers> i KNOW!
[11:40] <Esers> i just need to read
[11:40] <oxez> Then that line will do it
[11:40] <Esers> how to get to fstab
[11:40] <cdubya> Esers, just curious, but did you follow the docs on the wiki?
[11:40] <Esers> found a forum
[11:40] <cdubya> I was in the same boat, and followed those verbatim and it worked without a hitch.
[11:41] <Esers> 1000 and 1 answer
[11:41] <Esers> none worlds
[11:41] <cdubya> I added the line in /etc/fstab..../dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[11:41] <seife> djm62, check
[11:41] <matrix-ubuntu> how do i get root permissions
[11:41] <warreng> does anybody think it's a little odd that uninstalling evolution (the e-mail program) also tries to uninstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:41] <butcherbird> Esers, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:41] <blue-frog> Esers, change your fstab, then sudo umount /media/hdc1, then sudo mount -a
[11:41] <warreng> as does xchat?
[11:42] <cdubya> Esers, mkdir /media/windows, then chown root
[11:42] <Kraeloc> Woot! Got my breezy discs!
[11:42] <djm62> warreng: ubuntu-desktop depends on everything, but nothing depends on ubuntu-desktop
[11:42] <NoUse> !tell matrix-ubuntu about root
[11:42] <djm62> warreng: it's a meta-package, no need for alarm
[11:42] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu, sudo
[11:42] <DShepherd> warreng: so you should be kool
[11:42] <warreng> djm62: when i mark xchat/evolution for uninstallation, it says it's going to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well
[11:42] <seife> djm62, read private msg.
[11:42] <Esers> ok have opened the fstab
[11:42] <Esers> what next
[11:42] <Esers> ?
[11:43] <duckduckduck> warreng: that's ok
[11:43] <djm62> seife: I have
[11:43] <duckduckduck> warreng: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[11:43] <djm62> and replied
[11:43] <synd> Is there a reason why when I VNC to my Ubuntu box from my OS X box, that I get an odd screen with an X for a cursor?
[11:43] <Radiobuzz> hello
[11:43] <stefan_> tag
[11:43] <cdubya> Esers, do you know what dev the ntfs partition is?
[11:43] <Esers> /dev/hdc1
[11:43] <Esers> yeah
[11:43] <Radiobuzz> I have a question
[11:43] <cdubya> k
[11:44] <cdubya> so that last command I pasted here...use it, except change the /dev designation to the right one for your winders partition
[11:44] <warreng> and why does evolution-data-server uninstall gnome-applets, gnome-panel, natulius.... etc???
[11:44] <Esers> /dev/hdc1       /media/hdc1     ntfs    defaults        0       0  <- as i understand have to change something in this line
[11:44] <Esers> what?
[11:44] <Radiobuzz> five Ubuntu copies have arrived today at my house, however I can't install it nor use the LiveCD because it tells me that a file is corrupt, this is happening with every CD I got :S
[11:44] <blue-frog> Esers, default by umask=000
[11:44] <mustermann> synd - sounds like x-windows without a WM.
[11:45] <cdubya> Esers, hang on a sec....
[11:45] <cerin> hello
[11:45] <oxez> Radiobuzz: did you order the cds for the right arch?
[11:46] <oxez> hi
[11:46] <Radiobuzz> right arch? Sorry, my english is not very good, what do you mean?
[11:46] <cerin> can someone help me with installing Gnoppix 1.0 from a liveCD?
[11:46] <pinkisntwell> why is gnome so slow compared to windows xp?
[11:46] <noobs_piss_me_of> wtf?
[11:46] <Siorai> the right archtechure, what kind of processor do you have Radiobuzz  ?
[11:46] <oxez> do you have the right kernel for your processor?
[11:46] <cdubya> Esers, the biggest difference is that your line has the word defaults in it, where mine has this....nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:46] <sexcopter8000m> is there an easy way to see how many files are on a given partition?
[11:46] <noobs_piss_me_of> how big is your swap?
[11:47] <cdubya> !ntfs
[11:47] <Radiobuzz> I have an Intel Pentium IV
[11:47] <synd> mustermann: But I've got a WM running on the box that has the VNC server running
[11:47] <cerin> anyone?
[11:47] <warreng> and how do i install php5 and mysql5 ?
[11:47] <Radiobuzz> and yes, supossedly these are the correct versions for it
[11:47] <oxez> pinkisntwell: Do you still have the 386 kernel?
[11:47] <Radiobuzz> oh... wait...
[11:47] <blue-frog> cerin, try #gnoppix...
[11:47] <cerin> on what server blue-frog?
[11:48] <noobs_piss_me_of> freenode
[11:48] <oxez> cerin: is gnoppix like knoppix?
[11:48] <pinkisntwell> what's that? i installed ubuntu from the cd, didnt change the kernel
[11:48] <cdubya> Esers, did you do this.....ln -s /media/windows ~/Desktop/
[11:48] <oxez> if yes, go in #knoppix
[11:48] <blue-frog> cerin, don't know have a look at their webpage
[11:48] <noobs_piss_me_of> exactly
[11:48] <noobs_piss_me_of> just w/ gnome
[11:48] <oxez> pingswept: what's your processor?
[11:48] <Radiobuzz> yes, I ordered the right CDs
[11:48] <oxez> pingswept: nvm, bad tab nick
[11:48] <Esers> nop doesn' t work :(
[11:48] <pingswept> oxez: hey what?
[11:48] <pingswept> Ah, right.
[11:48] <oxez> pinkisntwell: what's your processot?
[11:48] <oxez> sorry :P
[11:48] <pingswept> NO worries.
[11:49] <blue-frog> Esers, change your fstab, then sudo umount /media/hdc1, then sudo mount -a
[11:49] <pinkisntwell> athlon xp 2000
[11:49] <cdubya> Esers, did you sudo mount -a
[11:49] <pinkisntwell> 512 MB ram
[11:49] <oxez> pinkisntwell: install the -k7 kernel
[11:49] <pinkisntwell> what's that?
[11:49] <oxez> pinkisntwell: that made a HUGE difference for me
[11:49] <Esers> THANKS!!!!
[11:49] <oxez> pinkisntwell: go in synaptic, and install linux-k7
[11:49] <cdubya> np
[11:50] <Radiobuzz> so, any suggestions?
[11:52] <nekron> i installed the kubuntu-desktop and my gnome brokes.. why?
[11:52] <opnsrc> whats the difference from the 686 and 686 smp kernel?
[11:52] <Comrade_Vladimir> death?
[11:52] <oxez> hm, why does mplayer depends on xmms?
[11:52] <nick01> ubotu, tell nick01 about ati
[11:53] <warreng> is there a dotdeb equivalent for ubuntu? where i can get latest packages like php5 and mysql5?
[11:53] <DShepherd> what do I need to play wmv files
[11:54] <cdubya> DShepherd, mplayer works, methinks......at least it does on mine....:)
[11:54] <ale3hs> I got Gaim 1.5.0 ..when u block somebody, there is any way to unblock him ??
[11:54] <warreng> ? restricted formats
[11:54] <DShepherd> cdubya: totem wont play mine, is the format covered in restricted formats
[11:55] <DShepherd> ?
[11:55] <warreng> ubotu, restricted formats?
[11:55] <ubotu> restricted formats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:55] <opnsrc> n/m
[11:55] <Ribs> ale3hs: tools menu -> Privacy
[11:55] <thoreauputic> DShepherd: install totem-xine and get the codecs
[11:56] <thoreauputic> DShepherd: the restricted formats wiki will help
[11:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> no it wont
[11:56] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir: yes it will
[11:56] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> its not much help when ever i get referred to it
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir: if you folow it everything works fine
[11:57] <thoreauputic> what was your problem?
[11:57] <Radiobuzz> BTW, the option to check the cds integrity also fails
[11:57] <djm62> in breezy, my "Sigmatel MSCN Music Player" generic usb-stick mp3 player is no longer auto-mounted as usb-mass-storage: how can I fix it, and where can I report it
[11:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> not for java it didnt work just ask the numerous people who helped me and see thoreauputic
[11:58] <DShepherd> thoreauputic: ok.. I did already.. well I think I did
[11:58] <ale3hs> ribs still I dont see the way
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir: maybe the wrong URLs for java? They keep changing...
[11:58] <thoreauputic> !javadeb
[11:58] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:58] <martincho> How can I make that my serial port mouse works on ubuntu?
[11:58] <djm62> I can manually mount it as /dev/sda, but it refuses to automount although it shows up in gnome
[11:59] <Ribs> ale3hs: Tools menu -> Privacy... Select the account you used to block your friend, select his username, then click remove.
[11:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> no it just doesnt work thoreauputic
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Comrade_Vladimir: I have java running here - did you do the update-alternatives --config java step ?