=== kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === noah [n=noah@computer.cc.columbia.edu] has left #edubuntu [] [12:26] mhz_design, [12:26] me dices [12:26] cuando me meto al LP chile === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@203.89.167.142] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:45] hi === mhz_design is now known as mhz_dinner === deang [n=boys@rapids-arc1-228.tznet.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:20] Heya... Can you recommend a fun text based adventure for a 3rd grader? === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:21] mhz_dinner, === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H129.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_dinner is now known as mhz === sm|afk is now known as sankarshan === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_svg === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] re === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port162-85.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Nancy__ [n=nancy@ppp-69-223-48-180.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:19] pong to whoever pinged me during the night.... === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:12] JaneW: i didn't ping you, but good morning anyway [08:12] highvoltage: hello [08:12] ok, need to leave for mitchells plain again. bye! [08:12] highvoltage: I just had a blue edubuntu tab, and it was too far up to scroll back to. [08:12] bye then... === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H129.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === Oge_ [n=osku@dsl-hkigw4-fe3bde00-88.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu [08:27] is any way to fix my bad: bad configuration in /etc/sudoers, sudo not working and no root passwd. [08:28] /etc/sudoers -r--r----- root root [08:28] when try to "sudo vi /etc/passwd", gives my error for sudo configuration file === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.60.217.236] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.223.192] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] hey all [09:59] hi jsgotangco [10:01] hey juliux === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === P47|LL0 [n=gcamposm@200.60.217.228] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu [12:36] ogra: ping [12:38] ogra: see that edubuntu will be published on a DVD with aPolish versio n of wikipedia :)) === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu [12:51] JaneW, yay [12:52] :) [01:02] morning [01:02] hi [01:12] any exciting news?: ) === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.92.151] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] hi [03:07] ogra, [03:07] hi [03:08] I'm checking the http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSoftwareList page for the spanish compatibility [03:08] if a program is only in english, what do I put? [03:08] which one ? [03:08] or I have to leave it. [03:09] khelpcenter for example [03:09] is only in english [03:09] khelpcenter is totally irrelevant, i told that to mhz already ... [03:09] ap ok [03:09] its only there to make the other kde packages work ... it shouldnt be on this list at all [03:10] ap ok [03:10] but there are other applications [03:10] like games [03:10] that are only in english [03:10] I should I put in these applications? [03:11] you could file bugs and check if there are aready translations in rosetta for the app .. [03:11] note that glife is dropped now ... [03:11] so dont care for it ... [03:12] ap ok [03:12] I'll wait to mhz [03:12] :) [03:12] for tell to him the last reasons [03:13] :P [03:13] bye [03:13] bye ogra === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] re hi [03:25] :P [03:31] ogra, [03:31] yup [03:31] what do you think about the idea [03:32] of make edubuntu with other graphical enviroment? [03:32] feel free to do it [03:33] ap ok [03:33] but what do you think? === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:33] sure, why not ... [03:33] :) [03:34] I think maybe xubuntu and edubuntu can be only one [03:34] edubuntu with Cfce [03:34] not [03:34] XFce [03:34] :P [03:35] sure, build it ... [03:35] :P [03:35] jajjaa [03:35] I'm just learning programming with python [03:36] you dont need to program at all for that ... there is a Install CD Customization howto on the wiki somewhere ... read it ;) [03:36] ap ok === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan is now known as sm|IDLE === nekron [n=nekron@201-24-91-128.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:17] hi === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:46] think you can play movies over thin client (not ssh but XDMCP)? [04:47] you can do that with ssh as well if you select the sdlsink ... but its choppy [04:48] but without SSH still choppy? [04:48] no idea, i dont use xdmcp [04:49] since it requirea a lot of changes to X to make it work in ubuntu [04:50] i thought you could just switch on the XDMCP thingy in gdm settings [04:51] you also have to enable X to operate in tcp mode ... [04:51] did you notice that xhost+ doesnt work ? [04:51] ok true [04:51] but thats just one flag [04:51] xhost+ ? [04:51] sure, but since we'll never support it, i dont care about it [04:51] fair enough ;) [04:52] but just looking at my home setup now, really pissed, my file server died on my [04:52] everytime i want to get to work something vital dies here [04:53] annoying [04:54] today all my maxtor hd's seem to die, but if i scan them on another pc they report they are ok, so maybe its the ide controller. anyway i don't get any real work done, but i hope i can get some content filtering stuff on the edubuntu wiki end this week/beginning next week. [04:55] i did already some work on willow [04:56] have a look at it, it does bayesian filtering without the need for url/pattern lists [04:56] and its easy to add a pygtk gui to it [04:56] sounds great [04:56] i should look into that [04:57] i'll put that up somewhere i most likely wont have the time to finish it for dapper ... [04:58] so if you like to take over, feel free ... its plain python, so it should be easy to get it to main (and on the CD) [04:58] yeah [04:58] i'll look into it [04:58] at let you know, sounds doable [04:59] the packaging of the pory itself might bbe a bit tricky, it needs a initscript and should have a mode for transparent proxying ... [04:59] what kind of work did you do? gui thingy? [04:59] i played with a gui, yes [04:59] but its only the frontend so far, no functionallity yet [04:59] i should be able to manage that, [04:59] ok [05:00] thats not a problem [05:00] willow itself has a webinterface i'd like to copy for the gtk gui ... [05:00] if you can throw it online somewhere [05:00] (the backend stuff) [05:00] i'll look into it [05:00] will do during the evening ... now i have to care for merge stuff first ... [05:00] i hope this week, probably next week [05:00] sure [05:00] fine :) [05:00] take your time ;) [05:01] thanks for the offer, i really appreciate it :) [05:01] no problem [05:01] i need it myself [05:01] and i need some stuff for my school assignment ;) [05:01] remember ;) [05:02] ok, preparing for the next crash .... brb === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] would anybody be intersted in a edubuntu working with openmosix? would anybody want to help? [05:17] ogra: btw, is there any chance to include it into edubuntu if it is working properly? [05:17] nope [05:18] and we talked about 3 times about it already i think [05:18] we dont include kernel patches that wont get accepted upstream [05:19] so you would have to maintain a separate kernel [05:19] (outside of ubuntu) [05:19] which makes it impossible to include it in edubuntu [05:20] but feel free to maintain a derivative ... [05:21] its not that hard .... see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo [05:22] lucasvo: why openmosix? [05:31] mhz: because it enables you to share RAM/CPU/Swap of ltsp-clients with server [05:32] with the cost of network speed ... [05:32] lucasvo: so you want clustering? [05:32] ogra: it isn't a must [05:32] mhz: yes [05:32] lucasvo: what would be the bottlenecks of it? [05:32] ogra: I don't have any problems with network speed, others just don't have to load the module [05:33] sure, but its still impossible ... [05:33] mhz: 1Gbit etherent :D [05:33] ogra: techinically or because people don't want it? [05:33] arent there clustering solutions that might get included upstream ? [05:33] policy wise [05:33] ogra: I don't know [05:34] see my comment above [05:34] ogra: I just know that mosix and debian with ltsp works well [05:34] with the new ltsp ? [05:34] (note that debian switches to our implementation) [05:34] ogra: no [05:35] ogra: but what is different? [05:35] ssh transport for example ... [05:35] but that shouldnt affect clustering indeed [05:35] ogra: exactly [05:36] the thing is that we never will have support for openmosix in ubuntu ... so its no option at all [05:36] as long as linus disagrees with the patches [05:37] ogra: hm [05:38] ogra: I will look for sth. else [05:38] aks the kernel team what they suggest ... [05:38] (#ubuntu-kernel) [05:38] ogra: you do ? or should I ? [05:39] i dont care about clustering, i'm focused on dapper ... [05:39] (where no major changes are allowed to happen anyway) [05:39] ogra: so if lucasvo idea is in the scope of the supported clustering packages by ubuntu, tehn we'd be ok? [05:39] ogra: you said aks-> it could mean ogra asks or Ask! [05:40] i meant ask :) [05:40] mhz, if we have a clustering solution in ubuntu we can use it in edubuntu, sure [05:40] ok [05:41] i want to support clusterfs in dapper+1 but thats totally unrelated to clustering as lucasvo wants it [05:41] ogra: clusterfs is distributed fs? [05:41] yes [05:41] we already support ocfs2 [05:42] (also called gfs) [05:44] lucasvo: iirc there's a package in ubuntu that lets you share small HD's in a local net as if it were huge HD. I can't remember the name now, thoug. It was something like 'leonardo' maybe. [05:45] its ocfs2 :) [05:45] oh, really? [05:45] hehehe === vzl [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:45] but you dont want that without a very powerful net and server ... additionally you will need at least 3 servers to run it safely [05:46] ogra: i dont wanna cray about this, but neither mako nor jdub have answered my emails yet. :) [05:46] cry [05:46] can i kick them instead of pinging them :D [05:46] ... mako is very busy with his job with the 100$ laptop ... [05:47] oh [05:47] what job about that? [05:47] he works for negroponte on this 100$ laptop for children [05:47] at MIT === mhz was working on asimilar solution U$100 laptops (but my solution was focused on U$250 laptops, fully equiped. real HD) [05:48] duno what he's doing exactly there [05:48] ok === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] hi [05:50] mhz, [05:50] Lord_Athur: wb [05:50] "WB"=? [05:50] mhz, [05:51] descargu el source de gaim [05:51] ahora lo estoy configurando [05:51] Lord_Athur: still have not received solution from launchpad team. However, we could try you join the 2 teams in LP and see what happens [05:51] pero despues como lo instalo? [05:51] Lord_Athur: para que lo descargas? [05:51] Lord_Athur: wb =welcome back [05:52] ok [05:52] Lord_Athur: why not install GAIM via synaptic? [05:52] para que se optimize [05:52] osea el reinaldo me dio la idea [05:52] :P [05:52] jajjaa [05:52] osea yo tuve la idea [05:52] pero como lo hago [05:52] make q>? [05:53] reinaldo le gusta todo compilado y optimizado, lo cual me parece bien, pero si no lo has hecho nunca... yo lo haria con alguien al lado :) [05:53] jajjaa [05:53] hechando a perder se aprende [05:53] :S [05:53] dime como uso el cdigo make [05:53] para fabricar el programa [05:53] por favor [05:54] ogra: what are the step? make configure && make install? for gaim or any compiltion process? [05:54] why would you want that ? [05:54] Lord_Athur: no me acuerdo... it's been almost 3 years since i compiled something [05:54] jajaja [05:54] ok [05:55] ogra: me? nope. Lord_Athur is learning compilation of sources [05:56] ogra, do you know? [05:56] configure [05:56] make [05:56] make install [05:56] mhz, te respond el mensaje de la lista [05:56] ok [05:56] ogra, I did configure [05:57] but you really dont want that, it clutters your system with files you might not be able to remove... [05:57] but If I format the HD? === juliux listen what the right way is [05:58] juliux, the right way is to enter motu and learn packaging ;) [05:58] ogra, i know === juliux use checkinstall [05:58] Lord_Athur, sure, thats might help [05:59] ok [05:59] then [05:59] juliux, never ever use chackinstall if you want a sane system [05:59] gime the code (or way) to use the make code [05:59] ogra, should i use dh_make [05:59] {{ [05:59] juliux, rather, yes [06:00] mhz, [06:00] si [06:00] conoces algn enlace a una gua o algo? [06:00] en google [06:00] no supe buscar (por que no s a que cdigo o cosa hacer referencia) [06:01] juliux, checkinstall doesnt care about dependencys ... its fine for a 10min test of some software, but nothing to make packages [06:01] Lord_Athur: let me see [06:01] and dh_make requires that you know about dependencys ... [06:01] ogra, ok === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:03] Lord_Athur, maybe this is not the optimal place for learning how to compile programs ;) [06:03] hte [06:03] then, what is it? [06:03] other channel? [06:03] #ubuntu-motu would be better, yes [06:03] yup and maybe some online howto's [06:03] at least for packaging ... [06:04] Lord_Athur: http://linexdebs.gnulinex.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1 [06:04] or maybe ubuntu spanish loco channel, for spanish language support [06:04] i guess #ubuntu-es [06:04] Lord_Athur: they teach you step by step from pag. 2 [06:04] spacey: indeed [06:05] Lord_Athur: aslo, did you look up in the wiki? [06:05] also [06:05] yes [06:06] but i did not find any references [06:06] o como se escriba [06:06] xD [06:06] ok, te aseguro que el de linex te encantara [06:06] Lord_Athur: it was excellent written [06:06] Lord_Athur, every source package has a file called INSTALL normally, read this file :) [06:07] Lord_Athur: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/CompileMplayerHowto [06:07] :p [06:07] Lord_Athur: 'compile' is the verb you need [06:08] ap ok [06:08] lo busqu por todo menos eso [06:08] hehehe, i thought so [06:09] Lord_Athur: but the wiki url I pasted is not good for your learning [06:09] [06:09] the one from google about linexdebs is excellent! [06:09] :) [06:09] thanks === mhz is now known as mhz_lunch [06:11] Lord_Athur: and finally, if you wanna know a bit more about compilers ... http://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallingCompilers [06:11] someone give me the code [06:11] gave me the code [06:11] :) [06:11] daniel ... [06:11] I've got any memory problems [06:11] Lord_Athur: a que te refieres? [06:11] (dolbach) [06:11] I'll be back [06:11] a? [06:12] mhz_lunch, mi tarro esta colapsando [06:12] Lord_Athur: a que te refieres con "give me the code"? [06:12] que alguien ya me dio el cdigo [06:12] es gave me [06:12] que codigo? [06:12] me equivoq [06:12] ./configure && make && make install [06:12] eso hice [06:12] ahhh, eso es comando [06:12] apok [06:13] np [06:13] command line [06:13] or just command [06:13] ya puse la linea de comandos, vi gaim y se ve igual [06:13] xD [06:13] Lord_Athur: por que colapsa tu tarro? [06:13] pocos recursos [06:14] Lord_Athur: what hardware do you have? [06:14] 500 prossesor [06:14] 128 RAM [06:14] 10g in HD [06:14] excellent! [06:14] [06:14] I have same, but more RAM [06:14] jajjaa [06:14] Lord_Athur: what desktop are you using? [06:14] GNOME?> [06:14] KDE? [06:15] flusxbox? [06:15] fluxbox [06:15] gnome [06:16] can you move the spanish talk to #ubuntu-es? its not really convienant to talk here [06:16] since this is edubuntu specific and we don't speak spanish ;/ [06:16] why? [06:16] && [06:17] mhz_lunch, este es el loko q siempre webea cuando hablamos en espaol [06:17] spacey, don't worry [06:17] because nobody understands what youre saying [06:17] :) [06:17] if I need to talk something important, I'll do it in English [06:18] but but its better to keep it edubuntu specific here, is there a problem for discussing it in #ubuntu-es? [06:18] [06:18] Lord_Athur: no, let's go to query for non edubuntu stuff [06:18] mhz_lunch, how far are you with the dvd labels? [06:18] mhz_lunch, but we cannot talk by query [06:19] not far at all, just can't remeber where the color specifications are :( [06:19] Lord_Athur: oh, yes [06:19] Lord_Athur, whats the problem with querys ? [06:19] Lord_Athur: then I can login to #ubuntu-es [06:19] if you need me [06:19] ok [06:19] or open #edubuntu-es ;) [06:20] mmm [06:20] yes your're right [06:20] bye [06:20] ogra: he sees me and I dont see him or the other way around after a couple of minutes [06:21] mhz_lunch, in ubntu-es ? [06:21] ogra: nope, that problem happened yesterday here [06:21] you both need to be registered [06:22] ogra: duh! [06:22] I am registered as mhz not mhz_soemthing [06:22] and indeed you cant change your name randomly [06:22] heh, yes [06:22] since when? [06:22] 6-7 months ? === mhz_lunch is now known as mhz [06:23] dunno, freenode had a spambot attack... there they started to require you to be registered for /query's [06:23] ogra: * ChanServ removes channel operator status from mhz [06:24] that in #edubuntu-es [06:24] :) [06:24] you can register the channel (dont ask me how) [06:24] heheh [06:24] I wasn't thinking of :D [06:24] lol [06:25] ogra: i do try to ask the minimum things so you can work [06:25] peacefully [06:25] heh [06:26] juliux: so if you could find the proper # color for ubuntu DVD, that'll be cool === mhz will have lunch now === sven-tek [n=sven-tek@p508E67E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-174-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [07:34] mhz: there is a ubuntu dvd? [07:34] sure there is [07:35] (and hopefully a dapper liveCD too next week) [07:42] and someday, etherboot! [07:42] :D [07:42] ogra: I had to undo the change we made to have etherboot work, it was breaking the pxe clients. [07:43] oh, you have a mixed setup ? === SatanGolga [i=SatanGol@c-3172e253.38-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #edubuntu [] [07:45] I have. [07:45] the change didn't get etherboot working, and so I had to go back to at least having pxe work. [07:45] it comes down to the img that it boots from. === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:17] mhz, [08:17] have you got a jabber account? === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-174-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_2 [n=ajmitch@port169-199.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.122.104] has joined #edubuntu === sven-tek_ [n=sven-tek@p508E48C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:13] what is wrong with the stupid keyboard layout on ltsp client [09:13] ? [09:14] did you read the wikipage ? [09:17] ogra: yes I did and it didn't work === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:23] lucasvo, you mean setting XKBLAYOUT with your keyboardcode didnt work ? [09:23] ogra: no it didn't [09:23] whats your keyboard code ? [09:23] ogra: [09:24] [Default] [09:24] SERVER = 192.168.1.1 [09:24] X_HORZSYNC = "10-50" [09:24] X_VERTREFRESH = "10-60" [09:24] XKBLAYOUT = "che" [09:24] whats che ? [09:24] ogra: swiss international [09:24] does ch work ? [09:24]