[12:26] <Lord_Athur> mhz_design, 
[12:26] <Lord_Athur> me dices
[12:26] <Lord_Athur> cuando me meto al LP chile
[12:45] <Lord_Athur> hi
[01:20] <deang> Heya...   Can you recommend a fun text based adventure for a 3rd grader?
[01:21] <Lord_Athur> mhz_dinner, 
[04:27] <mhz> re
[07:19] <JaneW> pong to whoever pinged me during the night....
[08:12] <highvoltage> JaneW: i didn't ping you, but good morning anyway
[08:12] <JaneW> highvoltage: hello
[08:12] <highvoltage> ok, need to leave for mitchells plain again. bye!
[08:12] <JaneW> highvoltage: I just had a blue edubuntu tab, and it was too far up to scroll back to.
[08:12] <JaneW> bye then...
[08:27] <Oge_> is any way to fix my bad: bad configuration in /etc/sudoers, sudo not working and no root passwd.
[08:28] <Oge_> /etc/sudoers -r--r-----  root root
[08:28] <Oge_> when try to "sudo vi /etc/passwd", gives my error for sudo configuration file
[09:57] <jsgotangco> hey all
[09:59] <juliux> hi jsgotangco 
[10:01] <jsgotangco> hey juliux 
[12:36] <JaneW> ogra: ping
[12:38] <JaneW> ogra: see that edubuntu will be published on a DVD with aPolish versio n of wikipedia :))
[12:51] <ogra> JaneW, yay
[12:52] <JaneW> :)
[01:02] <spacey> morning
[01:02] <ogra> hi
[01:12] <spacey> any exciting news?: )
[03:07] <Lord_Athur> hi
[03:07] <Lord_Athur> ogra, 
[03:07] <ogra> hi
[03:08] <Lord_Athur> I'm checking the http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSoftwareList page for the spanish compatibility
[03:08] <Lord_Athur> if a program is only in english, what do I put?
[03:08] <ogra> which one ? 
[03:08] <Lord_Athur> or I have to leave it.
[03:09] <Lord_Athur> khelpcenter for example
[03:09] <Lord_Athur> is only in english
[03:09] <ogra> khelpcenter is totally irrelevant, i told that to mhz already ...
[03:09] <Lord_Athur> ap ok
[03:09] <ogra> its only there to make the other kde packages work ... it shouldnt be on this list at all
[03:10] <Lord_Athur> ap ok
[03:10] <Lord_Athur> but there are other applications
[03:10] <Lord_Athur> like games
[03:10] <Lord_Athur> that are only in english
[03:10] <Lord_Athur> I should I put in these applications?
[03:11] <ogra> you could file bugs and check if there are aready translations in rosetta for the app ..
[03:11] <ogra> note that glife is dropped now ...
[03:11] <ogra> so dont care for it ...
[03:12] <Lord_Athur> ap ok
[03:12] <Lord_Athur> I'll wait to mhz
[03:12] <Lord_Athur> :)
[03:12] <Lord_Athur> for tell to him the last reasons
[03:13] <Lord_Athur> :P
[03:13] <Lord_Athur> bye
[03:13] <Lord_Athur> bye ogra 
[03:25] <Lord_Athur> re hi
[03:25] <Lord_Athur> :P
[03:31] <Lord_Athur> ogra, 
[03:31] <ogra> yup
[03:31] <Lord_Athur> what do you think about the idea
[03:32] <Lord_Athur> of make edubuntu with other graphical enviroment?
[03:32] <ogra> feel free to do it 
[03:33] <Lord_Athur> ap ok
[03:33] <Lord_Athur> but what do you think?
[03:33] <ogra> sure, why not ...
[03:33] <Lord_Athur> :)
[03:34] <Lord_Athur> I think maybe xubuntu and edubuntu can be only one
[03:34] <Lord_Athur> edubuntu with Cfce
[03:34] <Lord_Athur> not
[03:34] <Lord_Athur> XFce
[03:34] <Lord_Athur> :P
[03:35] <ogra> sure, build it ...
[03:35] <Lord_Athur> :P
[03:35] <Lord_Athur> jajjaa
[03:35] <Lord_Athur> I'm just learning programming with python
[03:36] <ogra> you dont need to program at all for that ... there is a Install CD Customization howto on the wiki somewhere ... read it ;)
[03:36] <Lord_Athur> ap ok
[04:17] <mhz> hi
[04:46] <spacey> think you can play movies over thin client (not ssh but XDMCP)?
[04:47] <ogra> you can do that with ssh as well if you select the sdlsink ... but its choppy
[04:48] <spacey> but without SSH still choppy?
[04:48] <ogra> no idea, i dont use xdmcp
[04:49] <ogra> since it requirea a lot of changes to X to make it work in ubuntu
[04:50] <spacey> i thought you could just switch on the XDMCP thingy in gdm settings
[04:51] <ogra> you also have to enable X to operate in tcp mode ...
[04:51] <ogra> did you notice that xhost+ doesnt work ? 
[04:51] <spacey> ok true
[04:51] <spacey> but thats just one flag
[04:51] <spacey> xhost+ ?
[04:51] <ogra> sure, but since we'll never support it, i dont care about it
[04:51] <spacey> fair enough ;)
[04:52] <spacey> but just looking at my home setup now, really pissed, my file server died on my
[04:52] <spacey> everytime i want to get to work something vital dies here
[04:53] <ogra> annoying
[04:54] <spacey> today all my maxtor hd's seem to die, but if i scan them on another pc they report they are ok, so maybe its the ide controller. anyway i don't get any real work done, but i hope i can get some content filtering stuff on the edubuntu wiki end this week/beginning next week.
[04:55] <ogra> i did already some work on willow
[04:56] <ogra> have a look at it, it does bayesian filtering without the need for url/pattern lists
[04:56] <ogra> and its easy to add a pygtk gui to it 
[04:56] <spacey> sounds great
[04:56] <spacey> i should look into that
[04:57] <ogra> i'll put that up somewhere i most likely wont have the time to finish it for dapper ... 
[04:58] <ogra> so if you like to take over, feel free ... its plain python, so it should be easy to get it to main (and on the CD)
[04:58] <spacey> yeah
[04:58] <spacey> i'll look into it
[04:58] <spacey> at let you know, sounds doable
[04:59] <ogra> the packaging of the pory itself might bbe a bit tricky, it needs a initscript and should have a mode for transparent proxying ...
[04:59] <spacey> what kind of work did you do? gui thingy?
[04:59] <ogra> i played with a gui, yes
[04:59] <ogra> but its only the frontend so far, no functionallity yet
[04:59] <spacey> i should be able to manage that, 
[04:59] <spacey> ok
[05:00] <spacey> thats not a problem
[05:00] <ogra> willow itself has a webinterface i'd like to copy for the gtk gui ...
[05:00] <spacey> if you can throw it online somewhere
[05:00] <ogra> (the backend stuff) 
[05:00] <spacey> i'll look into it
[05:00] <ogra> will do during the evening ... now i have to care for merge stuff first ...
[05:00] <spacey> i hope this week, probably next week
[05:00] <spacey> sure
[05:00] <ogra> fine :)
[05:00] <spacey> take your time ;)
[05:01] <ogra> thanks for the offer, i really appreciate it :)
[05:01] <spacey> no problem
[05:01] <spacey> i need it myself
[05:01] <spacey> and i need some stuff for my school assignment ;)
[05:01] <spacey> remember ;)
[05:02] <ogra> ok, preparing for the next crash .... brb
[05:16] <lucasvo> would anybody be intersted in a edubuntu working with openmosix? would anybody want to help?
[05:17] <lucasvo> ogra: btw, is there any chance to include it into edubuntu if it is working properly?
[05:17] <ogra> nope
[05:18] <ogra> and we talked about 3 times about it already i think
[05:18] <ogra> we dont include kernel patches that wont get accepted upstream
[05:19] <ogra> so you would have to maintain a separate kernel 
[05:19] <ogra> (outside of ubuntu) 
[05:19] <ogra> which makes it impossible to include it in edubuntu
[05:20] <ogra> but feel free to maintain a derivative ... 
[05:21] <ogra> its not that hard .... see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[05:22] <mhz> lucasvo: why openmosix?
[05:31] <lucasvo> mhz: because it enables you to share RAM/CPU/Swap of ltsp-clients with server
[05:32] <ogra> with the cost of network speed ...
[05:32] <mhz> lucasvo: so you want clustering?
[05:32] <lucasvo> ogra: it isn't a must
[05:32] <lucasvo> mhz: yes
[05:32] <mhz> lucasvo: what would be the bottlenecks of it?
[05:32] <lucasvo> ogra: I don't have any problems with network speed, others just don't have to load the module
[05:33] <ogra> sure, but its still impossible ... 
[05:33] <lucasvo> mhz: 1Gbit etherent :D
[05:33] <lucasvo> ogra: techinically or because people don't want it?
[05:33] <ogra> arent there clustering solutions that might get included upstream ? 
[05:33] <ogra> policy wise
[05:33] <lucasvo> ogra: I don't know
[05:34] <ogra> see my comment above
[05:34] <lucasvo> ogra: I just know that mosix and debian with ltsp works well
[05:34] <ogra> with the new ltsp ? 
[05:34] <ogra> (note that debian switches to our implementation)
[05:34] <lucasvo> ogra: no
[05:35] <lucasvo> ogra: but what is different?
[05:35] <ogra> ssh transport for example ...
[05:35] <ogra> but that shouldnt affect clustering indeed
[05:35] <lucasvo> ogra: exactly
[05:36] <ogra> the thing is that we never will have support for openmosix in ubuntu ... so its no option at all
[05:36] <ogra> as long as linus disagrees with the patches
[05:37] <lucasvo> ogra: hm
[05:38] <lucasvo> ogra:  I will look for sth. else
[05:38] <ogra> aks the kernel team what they suggest ...
[05:38] <ogra> (#ubuntu-kernel)
[05:38] <lucasvo> ogra: you do ? or should I ?
[05:39] <ogra> i dont care about clustering, i'm focused on dapper ...
[05:39] <ogra> (where no major changes are allowed to happen anyway)
[05:39] <mhz> ogra: so if lucasvo idea is in the scope of the supported clustering packages by ubuntu, tehn we'd be ok?
[05:39] <lucasvo> ogra: you said aks-> it could mean ogra asks or Ask!
[05:40] <ogra> i meant ask :)
[05:40] <ogra> mhz, if we have a clustering solution in ubuntu we can use it in edubuntu, sure
[05:40] <mhz> ok
[05:41] <ogra> i want to support clusterfs in dapper+1 but thats totally unrelated to clustering as lucasvo wants it
[05:41] <lucasvo> ogra: clusterfs is distributed fs?
[05:41] <ogra> yes
[05:41] <ogra> we already support ocfs2 
[05:42] <ogra> (also called gfs)
[05:44] <mhz> lucasvo: iirc there's a package in ubuntu that lets you share small HD's in a local net as if it were huge HD. I can't remember the name now, thoug. It was something like 'leonardo' maybe.
[05:45] <ogra> its ocfs2 :)
[05:45] <mhz> oh, really?
[05:45] <mhz> hehehe
[05:45] <ogra> but you dont want that without a very powerful net and server ... additionally you will need at least 3 servers to run it safely
[05:46] <mhz> ogra: i dont wanna cray about this, but neither mako nor jdub have answered my emails yet. :)
[05:46] <mhz> cry
[05:46] <mhz> can i kick them instead of pinging them :D
[05:46] <ogra> ... mako is very busy with his job with the 100$ laptop ...
[05:47] <mhz> oh
[05:47] <mhz> what job about that?
[05:47] <ogra> he works for negroponte on this 100$ laptop for children
[05:47] <ogra> at MIT
[05:48] <ogra> duno what he's doing exactly there
[05:48] <mhz> ok
[05:50] <Lord_Athur> hi
[05:50] <Lord_Athur> mhz, 
[05:50] <mhz> Lord_Athur: wb
[05:50] <Lord_Athur> "WB"=?
[05:50] <Lord_Athur> mhz, 
[05:51] <Lord_Athur> descargu el source de gaim
[05:51] <Lord_Athur> ahora lo estoy configurando
[05:51] <mhz> Lord_Athur: still have not received solution from launchpad team. However, we could try you join the 2 teams in LP and see what happens
[05:51] <Lord_Athur> pero despues como lo instalo?
[05:51] <mhz> Lord_Athur: para que lo descargas?
[05:51] <mhz> Lord_Athur: wb =welcome back
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> ok
[05:52] <mhz> Lord_Athur: why not install GAIM via synaptic?
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> para que se optimize
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> osea el reinaldo me dio la idea
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> :P
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> jajjaa
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> osea yo tuve la idea
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> pero como lo hago
[05:52] <Lord_Athur> make q>?
[05:53] <mhz> reinaldo le gusta todo compilado y optimizado, lo cual me parece bien, pero si no lo has hecho nunca... yo lo haria con alguien al lado :)
[05:53] <Lord_Athur> jajjaa
[05:53] <Lord_Athur> hechando a perder se aprende
[05:53] <Lord_Athur> :S
[05:53] <Lord_Athur> dime como uso el cdigo make
[05:53] <Lord_Athur> para fabricar el programa
[05:53] <Lord_Athur> por favor
[05:54] <mhz> ogra: what are the step? make configure && make install? for gaim or any compiltion process?
[05:54] <ogra> why would you want that ? 
[05:54] <mhz> Lord_Athur: no me acuerdo... it's been almost 3 years since i compiled something
[05:54] <Lord_Athur> jajaja
[05:54] <Lord_Athur> ok
[05:55] <mhz> ogra: me? nope. Lord_Athur is learning compilation of sources
[05:56] <Lord_Athur> ogra, do you know?
[05:56] <ogra> configure 
[05:56] <ogra> make
[05:56] <ogra> make install
[05:56] <Lord_Athur> mhz, te respond el mensaje de la lista
[05:56] <Lord_Athur> ok
[05:56] <Lord_Athur> ogra, I did configure
[05:57] <ogra> but you really dont want that, it clutters your system with files you might not be able to remove...
[05:57] <Lord_Athur> but If I format the HD?
[05:58] <ogra> juliux, the right way is to enter motu and learn packaging ;)
[05:58] <juliux> ogra, i know
[05:58] <ogra> Lord_Athur, sure, thats might help
[05:59] <Lord_Athur> ok
[05:59] <Lord_Athur> then
[05:59] <ogra> juliux, never ever use chackinstall if you want a sane system
[05:59] <Lord_Athur> gime the code (or way) to use the make code
[05:59] <juliux> ogra, should i use dh_make 
[05:59] <Lord_Athur> {{
[05:59] <ogra> juliux, rather, yes
[06:00] <Lord_Athur> mhz, 
[06:00] <mhz> si
[06:00] <Lord_Athur> conoces algn enlace a una gua o algo?
[06:00] <Lord_Athur> en google
[06:00] <Lord_Athur> no supe buscar (por que no s a que cdigo o cosa hacer referencia)
[06:01] <ogra> juliux, checkinstall doesnt care about dependencys ... its fine for a 10min test of some software, but nothing to make packages
[06:01] <mhz> Lord_Athur: let me see
[06:01] <ogra> and dh_make requires that you know about dependencys ...
[06:01] <juliux> ogra, ok
[06:03] <spacey> Lord_Athur, maybe this is not the optimal place for learning how to compile programs ;)
[06:03] <Lord_Athur> hte
[06:03] <Lord_Athur> then, what is it?
[06:03] <Lord_Athur> other channel?
[06:03] <ogra> #ubuntu-motu would be better, yes
[06:03] <spacey> yup and maybe some online howto's
[06:03] <ogra> at least for packaging ...
[06:04] <mhz> Lord_Athur: http://linexdebs.gnulinex.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1
[06:04] <spacey> or maybe ubuntu spanish loco channel, for spanish language support
[06:04] <spacey> i guess #ubuntu-es
[06:04] <mhz> Lord_Athur: they teach you step by step from pag. 2
[06:04] <mhz> spacey: indeed
[06:05] <mhz> Lord_Athur: aslo, did you look up in the wiki?
[06:05] <mhz> also
[06:05] <Lord_Athur> yes
[06:06] <Lord_Athur> but i did not find any references
[06:06] <Lord_Athur> o como se escriba
[06:06] <Lord_Athur> xD
[06:06] <mhz> ok, te aseguro que el de linex te encantara
[06:06] <mhz> Lord_Athur: it was excellent written
[06:06] <ogra> Lord_Athur, every source package has a file called INSTALL normally, read this file :)
[06:07] <mhz> Lord_Athur: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/CompileMplayerHowto
[06:07] <Lord_Athur> :p
[06:07] <mhz> Lord_Athur: 'compile' is the verb you need
[06:08] <Lord_Athur> ap ok
[06:08] <Lord_Athur> lo busqu por todo menos eso
[06:08] <mhz> hehehe, i thought so
[06:09] <mhz> Lord_Athur: but the wiki url I pasted is not good for your learning
[06:09] <Lord_Athur> 
[06:09] <mhz> the one from google about linexdebs is excellent!
[06:09] <Lord_Athur> :)
[06:09] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[06:11] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: and finally, if you wanna know a bit more about compilers ... http://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallingCompilers
[06:11] <Lord_Athur> someone give me the code
[06:11] <Lord_Athur> gave me the code
[06:11] <Lord_Athur> :)
[06:11] <ogra> daniel  ...
[06:11] <Lord_Athur> I've got any memory problems
[06:11] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: a que te refieres?
[06:11] <ogra> (dolbach)
[06:11] <Lord_Athur> I'll be back
[06:11] <Lord_Athur> a?
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> mhz_lunch,  mi tarro esta colapsando
[06:12] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: a que te refieres con "give me the code"?
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> que alguien ya me dio el cdigo
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> es gave me
[06:12] <mhz_lunch> que codigo?
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> me equivoq
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> ./configure && make && make install
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> eso hice
[06:12] <mhz_lunch> ahhh, eso es comando
[06:12] <Lord_Athur> apok
[06:13] <mhz_lunch> np
[06:13] <mhz_lunch> command line
[06:13] <mhz_lunch> or just command
[06:13] <Lord_Athur> ya puse la linea de comandos, vi gaim y se ve igual
[06:13] <Lord_Athur> xD
[06:13] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: por que colapsa tu tarro?
[06:13] <Lord_Athur> pocos recursos
[06:14] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: what hardware do you have?
[06:14] <Lord_Athur> 500 prossesor
[06:14] <Lord_Athur> 128 RAM
[06:14] <Lord_Athur> 10g in HD
[06:14] <mhz_lunch> excellent!
[06:14] <Lord_Athur> 
[06:14] <mhz_lunch> I have same, but more RAM
[06:14] <Lord_Athur> jajjaa
[06:14] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: what desktop are you using?
[06:14] <mhz_lunch> GNOME?>
[06:14] <mhz_lunch> KDE?
[06:15] <mhz_lunch> flusxbox?
[06:15] <mhz_lunch> fluxbox
[06:15] <Lord_Athur> gnome
[06:16] <spacey> can you move the spanish talk to #ubuntu-es? its not really convienant to talk here
[06:16] <spacey> since this is edubuntu specific and we don't speak spanish ;/
[06:16] <Lord_Athur> why?
[06:16] <Lord_Athur> &&
[06:17] <Lord_Athur> mhz_lunch, este es el loko q siempre webea cuando hablamos en espaol
[06:17] <Lord_Athur> spacey, don't worry
[06:17] <ogra> because nobody understands what youre saying
[06:17] <ogra> :)
[06:17] <Lord_Athur> if I need to talk something important, I'll do it in English
[06:18] <spacey> but but its better to keep it edubuntu specific here, is there a problem for discussing it in #ubuntu-es?
[06:18] <Lord_Athur> 
[06:18] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: no, let's go to query for non edubuntu stuff
[06:18] <juliux> mhz_lunch, how far are you with the dvd labels?
[06:18] <Lord_Athur> mhz_lunch, but we cannot talk by query
[06:19] <mhz_lunch> not far at all, just can't remeber where the color specifications are :(
[06:19] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: oh, yes
[06:19] <ogra> Lord_Athur, whats the problem with querys ? 
[06:19] <mhz_lunch> Lord_Athur: then I can login to #ubuntu-es
[06:19] <mhz_lunch> if you need me
[06:19] <Lord_Athur> ok
[06:19] <ogra> or open #edubuntu-es ;)
[06:20] <Lord_Athur> mmm
[06:20] <Lord_Athur> yes your're right
[06:20] <Lord_Athur> bye
[06:20] <mhz_lunch> ogra: he sees me and I dont see him or the other way around after a couple of minutes
[06:21] <ogra> mhz_lunch, in ubntu-es ?
[06:21] <mhz_lunch> ogra: nope, that problem happened yesterday here
[06:21] <ogra> you both need to be registered 
[06:22] <mhz_lunch> ogra: duh!
[06:22] <mhz_lunch> I am registered as mhz not mhz_soemthing
[06:22] <ogra> and indeed you cant change your name randomly
[06:22] <ogra> heh, yes
[06:22] <mhz_lunch> since when?
[06:22] <ogra> 6-7 months ? 
[06:23] <ogra> dunno, freenode had a spambot attack... there they started to require you to be registered for /query's
[06:23] <mhz> ogra: * ChanServ removes channel operator status from mhz
[06:24] <mhz> that in #edubuntu-es
[06:24] <mhz> :)
[06:24] <ogra> you can register the channel (dont ask me how)
[06:24] <mhz> heheh
[06:24] <mhz> I wasn't thinking of :D
[06:24] <mhz> lol
[06:25] <mhz> ogra: i do try to ask the minimum things so you can work
[06:25] <mhz> peacefully
[06:25] <ogra> heh
[06:26] <mhz> juliux: so if you could find the proper # color for ubuntu DVD, that'll be cool
[07:34] <lucasvo> mhz: there is a ubuntu dvd?
[07:34] <ogra> sure there is
[07:35] <ogra> (and hopefully a dapper liveCD too next week)
[07:42] <vincenzio> and someday, etherboot!
[07:42] <vincenzio> :D
[07:42] <vincenzio> ogra: I had to undo the change we made to have etherboot work, it was breaking the pxe clients.
[07:43] <ogra> oh, you have a mixed setup ?
[07:45] <vincenzio> I have.
[07:45] <vincenzio> the change didn't get etherboot working, and so I had to go back to at least having pxe work.
[07:45] <vincenzio> it comes down to the img that it boots from.
[08:17] <Lord_Athur> mhz, 
[08:17] <Lord_Athur> have you got a jabber account?
[09:13] <lucasvo> what is wrong with the stupid keyboard layout on ltsp client
[09:13] <lucasvo> ?
[09:14] <ogra> did you read the wikipage ? 
[09:17] <lucasvo> ogra: yes I did and it didn't work
[09:23] <ogra> lucasvo, you mean setting XKBLAYOUT with your keyboardcode didnt work ? 
[09:23] <lucasvo> ogra: no it didn't
[09:23] <ogra> whats your keyboard code ? 
[09:23] <lucasvo> ogra: 
[09:24] <lucasvo> [Default] 
[09:24] <lucasvo>         SERVER             = 192.168.1.1
[09:24] <lucasvo> 	X_HORZSYNC	   = "10-50"
[09:24] <lucasvo> 	X_VERTREFRESH	   = "10-60"
[09:24] <lucasvo> 	XKBLAYOUT          = "che"
[09:24] <ogra> whats che ? 
[09:24] <lucasvo> ogra: swiss international
[09:24] <ogra> does ch work ? 
[09:24] <lucasvo> ogra: as it is shown on my gnome panel applet
[09:25] <ogra> that might not be the code X uses ...
[09:27] <blue-frog> ch more likely indeed
[09:42] <lucasvo> blue-frog: so why does it say che?
[09:47] <blue-frog> could be a typo in the gui or as ogra said a code used by the gui, but for me ch is international for swiss
[09:48] <ogra> for me too ...
[09:48] <ogra> i didnt know about che at all
[09:50] <Lord_Athur> ogra, do you know to program in glade?
[09:50] <ogra> Lord_Athur, yup
[09:51] <Lord_Athur> what does the word yup mean?
[09:51] <ogra> yes
[09:51] <Lord_Athur> ok
[09:52] <Lord_Athur> if I put a button, this button uses all the space in the windows?
[09:53] <ogra> you have to use a hbox or vbox
[10:06] <mhz> hi
[10:06] <mhz> arkan0x: hey!
[10:07] <mhz> juliux: DVD uploaded
[10:07] <arkan0x> mhz,entre solo para avisar algo , toy laburando !
[10:07] <juliux> mhz, link?
[10:07] <mhz> chao
[10:07] <mhz> same for CD
[10:07] <arkan0x> mhz, byez
[10:07] <ogra> mhz, see -devel, jdub is around
[10:07] <mhz> cooool
[10:08] <mhz> juliux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuCdLabelAndSlip
[10:14] <mhz> jejejej, ogra is Mr. IRC channels
[10:16] <ogra> i like to know whats going on :)
[10:17] <mhz> ogra: but how do you actually concentrate on so much and keep up the work speed?
[10:18] <mhz> are you 'gifted'?
[10:18] <ogra> i dont chat all the time :)
[10:18] <mhz> (hmm, that reminds me Yagisan's mom-in-law is not good at all)
[10:18] <mhz> ogra: ok, roget that.
[10:18] <mhz> roger
[10:31] <juliux> mhz, txs
[10:31] <juliux> thxs
[10:31] <zdziczek> hey there
[10:32] <zdziczek> i need to load a kernel option "irqpoll" before the machine boots using a PXE CDROM ISO
[10:32] <zdziczek> how can I do that?
[10:33] <zdziczek> the machine starts to boot, but the 8139too driver needs the "irqpoll" option passed in order to not fail
[10:33] <zdziczek> how can i do this
[10:33] <ogra> add it to the kernel commandline in 
[10:33] <ogra> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default
[10:34] <ogra> as you would for a normal boot
[10:34] <zdziczek> on the server you mean
[10:34] <ogra> yup
[10:35] <zdziczek> hrmm, interesting
[10:35] <zdziczek> what if only certain clients needed this option, but others didnt?
[10:35] <zdziczek> like say, half my lab
[10:36] <ogra> hmm, thats hard ...
[10:36] <zdziczek> :-(
[10:36] <mhz> juliux: is it useful for you?
[10:36] <mhz> juliux: do you need architecture versions?
[10:36] <juliux> mhz, that would be nice
[10:36] <mhz> juliux: but do yo need it?
[10:37] <juliux> mhz, but i don't know if we will print cds next weekend
[10:37] <zdziczek> ogra, thanks dude
[10:37] <mhz> juliux: let me know then.
[10:37] <zdziczek> got this old 233 Mhz lab kicking!!  thakns to you!!!
[10:37] <juliux> mhz, we will test it next weekend
[10:37] <zdziczek> ogra, :-)
[10:37] <ogra> zdziczek, consider using two servers if you can
[10:37] <ogra> youre welcome
[10:37] <zdziczek> edubntu is great
[10:37] <zdziczek> so clean and polished...fun for kids too
[10:38] <mhz> zdziczek: let us know how it works, please
[10:38] <ogra> thanks :)
[10:38] <mhz> zdziczek: let us know what users think of it, please
[10:40] <mhz> zdziczek: and if you need more performance, please consider using other lighter desktops before complaining about edubuntu :) One teacher already complained this to me, on a 400 MHz Desktop with 128 MB ram ;)
[10:40] <zdziczek> mhz, i definitely will
[10:40] <mhz> yhx
[10:40] <mhz> thx
[10:41] <zdziczek> one thing is the not so glitzy Login Screen
[10:41] <zdziczek> it would be cool to have a nice image, rather than a dull grey screen
[10:42] <ogra> is already solved in the development verson :)
[10:42] <mhz> ogra: do you have such image?
[10:42] <ogra> we have a themeable login screen now ... fullscreen
[10:42] <zdziczek> cool!
[10:43] <zdziczek> mhz, will it be in Dappy?
[10:43] <ogra> mhz, not yet
[10:43] <ogra> yes
[10:43] <mhz> okis
[10:43] <ogra> as well as a bootsplash for the clients etc ...
[10:43] <zdziczek> nice :-)