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artnayhey guys12:17
artnayumh, tango updated. new view-refresh icon x)12:17
artnaystill I don't get it why the yellow spot is on left side in address-book-new icon12:18
artnayevery else *-new icon has it on the right side :o12:18
artnayderek[] : did you install ubuntu? ;)12:26
derek[] hi12:31
derek[] no I didn't yet12:31
derek[] what is tango?12:32
artnayhttp://tango-project.org/12:37
derek[] OK12:51
derek[] I'm first learning about FHS: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/12:51
derek[] Here's something that may be useful for you:12:53
derek[] http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons.html12:53
artnaythat's GNOME's way to handle icons12:57
artnayAndyFitz is developing Humility12:57
artnaythat should replace the default GNOME set12:57
artnaywell at least it's supposed to replace, although I don't know how things are at the moment12:58
derek[] k01:01
artnayok, I've been updating the todo list: http://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/artwork-todo01:12
artnayIf dapper gets Debian's GUI installer, artwork team should put some input on it01:20
klepashi you two :)01:23
artnayhey klepas 01:27
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lapohi there01:28
artnayklepas: you're one of the team members, right?01:28
artnaylapo: hi01:28
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artnayok, lots of new ppl here. care to give comments on this? http://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/artwork-todo01:29
klepasartnay: yea, 'so-to-say' :)01:33
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klepasAnd more people.01:34
klepasWelcome th1nk 01:34
th1nkhey01:35
klepas[http://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/artwork-todo]  artnay: I'll go over it when I can01:36
klepasThanks for taking the initiative to do this. We really need to get a move on :)01:36
artnayI fully agree. I try to make that list as complete as I can (with help of others, credits are there as well), then I'll post it to the mailing list01:38
klepasgood idea01:38
klepasit's getting late on my end01:38
klepaswell, soon early actually01:38
klepasbut yea01:38
klepaswill go over when i find the time01:38
artnaywe need to solve out what's there now, what we (community) want, how should the changes be done, what's preventing us to do that stuff etc.01:39
artnayso if you have information on any of those topics, just keep it coming here01:40
klepaswhat's preventing us... well that would be laziness :)01:40
derek[] Does Ubuntu follow SUS or POSIX?01:40
artnayklepas: disorganization01:40
klepasAnd that too01:41
artnayderek[] : ubuntu is based on linux and GNU, now isn't it? ;)01:42
derek[] yeah01:45
derek[] and linux is POSIX complaint?01:45
derek[] compliant*01:45
derek[] (anyway, its offtopic)01:46
artnaywell I don't know how compliant it is, haven't read IEEE's / RMS's standard *g*01:47
artnayI suppose it's quite native though01:47
derek[] I think I've read linux's relation to POSIX in the past.. not sure01:48
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artnaybachler: I updated the list a bit01:56
bachleroh01:56
bachlerim @ school now.. so i cant look right now01:56
bachlerjust got my xchat config to schoolcomputer01:57
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bach_skolthere..01:57
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klepasguys02:26
klepashttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3194102:26
artnayit's simple and classy, I like it02:30
artnayalthough it still has "GDM flaws" (in point of view of windows user)02:31
artnaywhat's that Actions button? for init 6?02:32
artnayuser name and password should separated into two different sections and there should be "OK" button02:33
klepasit's just a mockup02:33
klepas:)02:33
artnayI'm not saying it should be like that by default, but it should be possible. that way migration from windows to ubuntu would be a bit easier02:34
klepasmake it reality, and improve it02:34
artnayI don't know if it's even possible with the current version of GDM02:34
lapoonly one field for username and passowrd is better imho02:35
artnaylapo: yeah, when you get used to it02:36
artnaybut image how many support calls help desk would get only for that... don't overestimate people :P02:36
lapoyou always need to get used to "new" things02:37
lapothe support call came for more serieous issue, like not complete vfs support02:37
artnaylapo: I'm talking about ppl who only surf the web and do some office jobs02:38
artnaylike 40-year-old female secretary who doesn't even know what OS is02:38
artnayI prefer the GDM way, but as an option the MS would be good02:38
artnayok, remove that female part. It could be a male as well.02:39
klepaswell i'm off02:41
klepasgetting earlier and earlier in the morning =)02:41
klepasneed the sleep02:41
artnaybye02:41
klepasbtw, lapo: nice accessories icon. great work.02:42
artnaylapo: what was klepas referring to?02:43
artnaywould you like to show it? :)02:44
lapoit'svtigert work02:44
lapolirj  http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/Icons02:45
lapolurk, one key offset :-)02:45
lapowait, it's in http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bat/tmp02:45
artnayhmm, /Icons is a mix of tango and some GNOME influenced icons, right?02:47
artnayare you doing icons for tango project?02:47
lapoyes some02:48
artnayok, I really like those media icons02:48
artnayreplaced the ones I had with those02:48
artnaythanks02:48
lapothese are the current tango media icons02:50
lapothey need some love btw02:50
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artnayyeah, I noticed they are the CVS icons. kind of blurry, although I might fcuk something up02:53
artnaywhat kind of love are planning? colours? shapes?02:53
lapoI like the shapes, I think I'll plastify the whole set again02:53
artnayok. I added a few links to todo lists, mainly to icons section02:56
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artnayok, to-do list has been changed. I was chatting with mjg59 about Usplash, it's improving05:16
artnayhttp://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/artwork-todo05:16
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