| fabbione | should work fine for me | 12:05 |
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| fabbione | it's nothing extremely urgent.. so if we can't make it, tough, we can always reschedule it | 12:05 |
| fabbione | good night Kamion :) | 12:06 |
| Kamion | sure, night :) | 12:06 |
| fabbione | bah | 08:02 |
| fabbione | it looks like that libselinux in lvm2-udeb is not lvm2 fault | 08:03 |
| fabbione | there is something wrong with the build environment | 08:03 |
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| infinity | Well, it has -boot in the name. | 08:32 |
| fabbione | yeah but here there are only a bunch of bastards | 08:32 |
| fabbione | :) | 08:32 |
| sivang | hehe | 08:33 |
| sivang | well, it's probably specially created for speeding up the boot process? | 08:33 |
| sivang | err, | 08:33 |
| sivang | thqat is for discussing that stuff | 08:33 |
| fabbione | Kamion: ok the problem is way more complicated than it did look in the beginning | 08:46 |
| fabbione | lvm2-udeb manages to link to libselinux via libdevmapper | 08:46 |
| fabbione | even if --disable-selinux is forced | 08:46 |
| fabbione | so libselinux is pulled in indirectly | 08:46 |
| fabbione | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=315505 <- | 08:47 |
| fabbione | but they didn't realize that device mapper will still break the world | 08:47 |
| fabbione | Kamion: ok.. i got lvm2 back to normal.. just waiting for the packages/dep-wait & co to propagate | 09:57 |
| Kamion | sivang: #debian-boot's name is historical, from boot-floppies; it should really be #debian-installer now, but we can't be bothered to move | 10:06 |
| sivang | Kamion: ofcourse :) | 10:07 |
| Kamion | we created this channel primarily to coordinate the move to 2.6.15 and the new udev and co. for dapper; no doubt it will be used for other related things | 10:07 |
| infinity | (on unrelated ones) | 10:11 |
| infinity | Side note: The only thing worse than not being able to make something work for hours on end is MAKING IT WORK, BUT NOT BEING SURE HOW. | 10:13 |
| infinity | I think Ineed a brain-break. | 10:13 |
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| Mithrandir | s/break/&s/ | 10:17 |
| sivang | infinity: indeed. | 10:37 |
| fabbione | yeah | 11:10 |
| fabbione | good new steps forward | 11:10 |
| fabbione | Kamion: pal is still broken on ppc :).. but at least it seems that manual LVM works.. so that makes my life still very simple. I think i am hitting a very stupid problem but i will work on it after the dentist | 11:11 |
| Mithrandir | so, I suck. This won't work, since cdrom-checker complains about not finding the cdrom device. | 11:49 |
| Kamion | oh yeah, you'll need to make cdrom-detect run first | 11:51 |
| Kamion | * Make ext2=m on all arch's. | 11:53 |
| Kamion | oh great, more d-i changes ... | 11:53 |
| Mithrandir | hmm, should I add a hack to cdrom-chooser for that, or should I wrap it in a small shell script which just does udpkg --configure cdrom-detect ; udpkg --configure cdrom-checker? | 11:54 |
| Kamion | cdrom-chooser depends on cdrom-detect ... | 11:56 |
| Kamion | so perhaps if your menu hook is udpkg --configure cdrom-checker rather than running /var/lib/dpkg/info/cdrom-checker.postinst directly, it'll work? | 11:56 |
| Kamion | s/chooser/checker/ above | 11:56 |
| Mithrandir | I'll try. | 11:57 |
| Kamion | (can't remember if udpkg --configure follows dependencies) | 11:58 |
| Mithrandir | it does, iirc | 11:58 |
| Kamion | hm, doesn't seem to | 11:59 |
| Kamion | maybe udpkg --configure cdrom-checker cdrom-detect | 12:00 |
| Kamion | er, other way round | 12:00 |
| Mithrandir | if DODEPENDS is #defined, it should | 12:01 |
| Mithrandir | which is not default | 12:04 |
| Mithrandir | ./configure --without-depends --without-debug \ | 12:04 |
| Mithrandir | --without-remove --with-admindir=/var/lib/dpkg | 12:04 |
| Kamion | only for --install | 12:04 |
| Kamion | not --configure | 12:04 |
| Kamion | (in the current code) | 12:04 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, and it's compiled out anyway, so.. | 12:05 |
| Mithrandir | "export: 5: --configre: bad variable name" | 12:07 |
| Mithrandir | configure, even | 12:07 |
| Kamion | quoting? | 12:08 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, in rootskel | 12:08 |
| Mithrandir | I'm sure joeyh is going to love me for first breaking rootskel, then uploading it twice in a day. | 12:08 |
| Mithrandir | oh, boot faster, xoog | 12:09 |
| Mithrandir | heh, debconf complains about --configure. I think I'll just write a tiny wrapper in cdrom-checker instead. | 12:20 |
| Kamion | ok | 12:36 |
| Mithrandir | gnnr, I just get a black screen with a single grey line on it. | 01:17 |
| Mithrandir | hw-detect seems to be hanging. | 01:18 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: any great ideas? Running it by hand works, but well, is kinda wrong. | 01:23 |
| Kamion | I'd boot with BOOT_DEBUG=3, use the "before init" debugshell to replace /sbin/debian-installer in /etc/inittab with /bin/sh, and then run through it step by step | 01:42 |
| Kamion | maybe debconf isn't connected up right | 01:43 |
| Mithrandir | it blows up when I run debconf -o d-i /bin/cdrom-detect-menu (which just runs udpkg --configure cdrom-checker cdrom-detect) | 01:44 |
| Mithrandir | even from tty2 | 01:44 |
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| Kamion | you'd want UDPKG_QUIET=y in cdrom-detect-menu at least | 01:47 |
| Kamion | (perhaps the witter is confusing debconf) | 01:47 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, I'll try that | 01:48 |
| Kamion | I dunno, in general I'd be trying to imitate what main-menu does | 01:49 |
| Kamion | hmm, you might also like to look at the setup/* scripts in kickseed; they're run using MENU | 01:50 |
| Kamion | export UDPKG_QUIET=y | 01:50 |
| Kamion | udpkg --force-configure --configure "$1" 2>&1 | logger -t kickseed | 01:50 |
| Kamion | that could become log-output these days, but otherwise that works in a MENU in kickseed | 01:50 |
| Kamion | # without this, debconf clients will talk debconf protocol to syslog | 01:50 |
| Kamion | . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule | 01:50 |
| Kamion | hah, right | 01:51 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: source the confmodule at the top of cdrom-detect-menu; that's probably your problem | 01:51 |
| Mithrandir | doh. | 01:51 |
| Kamion | I knew I'd solved this problem before ;-) | 01:51 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: I'll buy you a beer on Sunday. | 02:04 |
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| Kamion | Sunday? | 02:05 |
| Mithrandir | you're around Cambridge, aren't you? | 02:12 |
| Mithrandir | Karianne and I are in London from Saturday until Wednesday, with a small detour to Cambridge on Sunday. | 02:12 |
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| Kamion | oh, right, cool | 02:14 |
| Kamion | I'll check with Kirsten what we're doing on Sunday; I'd forgotten about your visit :) | 02:14 |
| Mithrandir | I mailed debian-uk about it last afternoon | 02:14 |
| Mithrandir | iirc | 02:14 |
| Mithrandir | no idea if it managed to traverse sauce, though | 02:15 |
| Kamion | 6 Tollef Fog Heen 1 [Debian-uk] Beer in Cambridge Sunday 2005-11-04 | 02:16 |
| Kamion | ^-- trn on chiark | 02:16 |
| Mithrandir | goodie | 02:16 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: hmm, main in cdrom-checker seems to include crack such as system("touch /tmp/test") system("logger init"), etc. I'll just get rid of those if you don't mind. | 02:36 |
| Kamion | sure :) | 02:38 |
| jbailey | Anyone here bored and willing to take the grub merge from me? | 02:38 |
| Kamion | I suspect it was a very early udeb | 02:38 |
| Kamion | jbailey: I'll grab it | 02:38 |
| Mithrandir | -- Martin Sjogren <sjogren@debian.org> Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:40:06 +0100 | 02:38 |
| Kamion | not bored as *such*, but I've merged grub before | 02:38 |
| jbailey | Kamion: Thanks. My bit of distro time left is best spent finishing the glibc bits. | 02:39 |
| Mithrandir | so, it works, except reboots don't. | 02:58 |
| infinity | jbailey : Will that include the creation of libc6-dev-i386, or -ENOTIME for that? | 03:09 |
| jbailey | infinity: I started looking at that last night. The next upload won't have it. I want that to be primarily things that are really needed for the locales-in-langpacks stuff. | 03:11 |
| jbailey | infinity: We're aiming to have that all in for flight-2. | 03:11 |
| jbailey | infinity: Do you have a more urgent need for tha libc6-dev-i386 stuff? | 03:12 |
| infinity | Nope. I couldn't care less if it happens soon, or even by release, it's just a wart I'd like to see go away "sometime" | 03:29 |
| fabbione | yo | 04:11 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:11 |
| Kamion | right | 04:12 |
| fabbione | i am having a bunch of problems with p-a-l and i need some help/advices on how to fix them | 04:12 |
| fabbione | if you can get the code handy, it might help | 04:12 |
| Kamion | ok; note I merged partman-auto last night | 04:12 |
| fabbione | yes i saw that | 04:12 |
| Kamion | but there shouldn't have been much relevant in there | 04:12 |
| fabbione | i need to retest on i386 because ppc is farting on me | 04:13 |
| fabbione | and i can't see why | 04:13 |
| fabbione | but that's not the main issue for now | 04:13 |
| fabbione | i will figure it later on | 04:13 |
| fabbione | the first problem i wanted to talk with you was the way to restart parted | 04:13 |
| Kamion | yeah, I noticed you disabled my change there | 04:14 |
| fabbione | you did change the hugly code i did copy from somewhere | 04:14 |
| fabbione | to something like: | 04:14 |
| fabbione | stop_parted | 04:14 |
| fabbione | start_partsomething | 04:14 |
| fabbione | but i have issues with that | 04:14 |
| fabbione | but i can't understand why | 04:14 |
| fabbione | perhaps you can help me to shed some light on it | 04:14 |
| Kamion | I'm just hunting down the svn changeset | 04:15 |
| fabbione | if you have a test machine that you can trash | 04:15 |
| fabbione | sure | 04:15 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: how can I get a status message from cdrom-checker through udpkg to cdrom-checker-menu? Any ideas? | 04:15 |
| Kamion | no test machine handy unfortunately | 04:15 |
| fabbione | you can see it almost immediatly becuase you run pal | 04:15 |
| fabbione | and the visuals are all wrong | 04:15 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: exit status, ideally ... | 04:15 |
| Kamion | all wrong? | 04:15 |
| fabbione | while using my restart code looks ok | 04:15 |
| fabbione | if you are familiar with LVM a bit | 04:16 |
| fabbione | and you have seen how partitions show up at partman? main menu | 04:16 |
| fabbione | you will see that with your code the partitions do not show up the same way as when you do manual LVM | 04:16 |
| fabbione | that's first "optical" symptom | 04:16 |
| fabbione | and if you ask to commit the changes, it will fail | 04:17 |
| fabbione | returning back to the main menu, everything looks ok again (like if parted is restarted the same way i do) | 04:17 |
| fabbione | and a second commit will work | 04:17 |
| Kamion | well, that's bizarre, because the function calls I replaced that code with contain identical code | 04:17 |
| fabbione | ah | 04:18 |
| Kamion | it's restarting in precisely the same way - the code's just in a common place now | 04:18 |
| fabbione | hmmmm | 04:18 |
| Kamion | if you can see a difference there, I'm all ears - I've got the diff in front of me and can't find anything | 04:18 |
| fabbione | do you remember from what pkg is coming? | 04:18 |
| Kamion | partman-base/definitions.sh | 04:18 |
| fabbione | the common code i mean | 04:18 |
| Kamion | hmm, unless 'exit 255' behaves differently in a function | 04:19 |
| fabbione | eh | 04:19 |
| fabbione | that could be | 04:19 |
| fabbione | in a function you should return | 04:19 |
| Kamion | seems unlikely; I'll test | 04:19 |
| fabbione | i can test it | 04:19 |
| Kamion | you can exit from a function | 04:19 |
| fabbione | don | 04:19 |
| fabbione | don't worry | 04:19 |
| fabbione | i am only seeking ideas | 04:19 |
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| Kamion | ~ $ foo () { echo; exit 255; echo; } | 04:20 |
| Kamion | ~ $ foo | 04:20 |
| Kamion | <cjwatson@cairhien ~>$ echo $? | 04:20 |
| Kamion | 255 | 04:20 |
| Kamion | seems to work as desired | 04:20 |
| fabbione | also in dash or the busybox built-in? | 04:20 |
| Kamion | fabbione: to be honest my first resort would be to stick 'set -x' at the top of perform_recipe_by_lvm and see what it's doing ... | 04:20 |
| Kamion | fabbione: that's in busybox sh | 04:20 |
| fabbione | yes i can stick set -x but where the hell does the output go? | 04:20 |
| Kamion | /var/log/syslog | 04:20 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:21 |
| fabbione | perfect | 04:21 |
| Kamion | it's not amazingly conveniently formatted but it should work | 04:21 |
| fabbione | i am ok with that | 04:21 |
| fabbione | given that it works :) | 04:21 |
| Kamion | you can probably 'exec 2>/tmp/randomfile' if you like | 04:21 |
| fabbione | i am happy if the out goes somewhere | 04:21 |
| fabbione | i can figure the formatting | 04:21 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:22 |
| fabbione | the next problem is: | 04:22 |
| fabbione | # check if the recipe contains lvmok tags otherwise fail | 04:22 |
| fabbione | if [ -z "$(echo "$scheme" | grep "lvmok")" ] ; then | 04:22 |
| fabbione | XXXX: how do we bailout properly? | 04:22 |
| fabbione | exit 0 | 04:22 |
| fabbione | fi | 04:22 |
| fabbione | let say that we are asked to perform a recipe on arch foo | 04:22 |
| fabbione | where arch foo has recipes that contains no lvmok tags | 04:22 |
| fabbione | i need to bailout | 04:22 |
| fabbione | what's the proper way to do it? | 04:23 |
| fabbione | at that point in time i didn't write anything to the disk | 04:23 |
| fabbione | so it's easy | 04:23 |
| fabbione | no actually | 04:23 |
| fabbione | i already trashed the disk | 04:23 |
| fabbione | but i need to bailout | 04:23 |
| Kamion | you're supposed to do that check before trashing the disk! | 04:24 |
| fabbione | ok i can do that | 04:24 |
| fabbione | that's not an issue | 04:24 |
| fabbione | but i need to know how to bailout properly | 04:24 |
| fabbione | i don't think exit 0 is the way it's meant to be | 04:24 |
| Kamion | make automatically_partition/some_device_lvm/choices only print the LVM choice if it can actually do it | 04:25 |
| Kamion | see resize_use_free, which does that sort of thing | 04:25 |
| fabbione | the problem is that we don't know the recipe yet at that time | 04:26 |
| fabbione | do we? | 04:26 |
| Kamion | choices is right before do_option ... | 04:26 |
| fabbione | so we already have the recipe.. | 04:26 |
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| fabbione | if so ok... | 04:26 |
| Kamion | they're both run from ask_user, and there's no recipe selection in between | 04:26 |
| Kamion | no, you probably don't | 04:26 |
| Kamion | hmm, maybe | 04:26 |
| Kamion | let me hunt around | 04:27 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:27 |
| Kamion | your script chooses the recipe itself | 04:27 |
| Kamion | so there's no issue | 04:27 |
| Kamion | choose_recipe "$free_size" || exit $? | 04:27 |
| fabbione | that's from do_option | 04:28 |
| fabbione | to hide the selecion, it needs to be done from choices | 04:29 |
| Kamion | ah, I see what you mean, you don't want to ask questions from choices | 04:29 |
| Kamion | well in that case just do the lvmok check before trashing the disk | 04:29 |
| fabbione | yes and i am ok with doing that check... | 04:30 |
| Kamion | all that logic is in your do_option so you can easily move it up | 04:30 |
| Kamion | exit 1 should be fine to bail out | 04:30 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:30 |
| fabbione | perfect :) | 04:30 |
| fabbione | exit 1 is all i was searching for ;) | 04:30 |
| Kamion | you should probably db_input/db_go an error template of some kind first | 04:30 |
| fabbione | that would make sense | 04:30 |
| Kamion | look at perform_recipe, which does that | 04:31 |
| fabbione | i guess we have some kind of standard error template | 04:31 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:31 |
| fabbione | i will | 04:31 |
| Kamion | or in the choose_recipe function for that matter | 04:31 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:31 |
| fabbione | i can still move code up | 04:31 |
| Kamion | hm, no, you'll probably need a new one since the text will need translated | 04:31 |
| fabbione | i have no issues for that | 04:31 |
| fabbione | the last problem i would like to address are unclean disks | 04:32 |
| Kamion | my advice from bitter experience is to get new template text upstream as soon as possible, otherwise merging is HELL | 04:32 |
| fabbione | ok. i want to finish pal no later than this week | 04:32 |
| fabbione | modulo bugs | 04:32 |
| fabbione | because i have other tons of stuff to do as well | 04:32 |
| Kamion | sure | 04:33 |
| fabbione | so let say you install breezy/dapper or whatever on lvm | 04:33 |
| fabbione | you decide to reinstall dapper on it using pal | 04:33 |
| fabbione | there is a big problem with LVM that finds the old install | 04:33 |
| fabbione | pal in that case is dumb | 04:33 |
| fabbione | it doesn't fail | 04:33 |
| fabbione | it doesn't clean | 04:33 |
| fabbione | the result can be a mess | 04:34 |
| fabbione | so i was wondering what kind of approach i should use to that | 04:34 |
| fabbione | like: | 04:34 |
| fabbione | - send big fat warning to dd the disk before attempting | 04:34 |
| fabbione | - try to cleanup automatically | 04:34 |
| fabbione | - do it and hpe evertyhing will work right afterwards | 04:34 |
| Kamion | my advice would be to just not offer it | 04:34 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:35 |
| Kamion | well, I guess you do want to be able to wipe the disk | 04:35 |
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| fabbione | well the point is exactly that one | 04:35 |
| fabbione | there is no clean way to wipe a disk that had LVM other dd or a bunch of lvm commands that might fail | 04:35 |
| Kamion | really? what goes wrong? | 04:36 |
| Kamion | you do a NEW_LABEL ... | 04:36 |
| fabbione | the LVM metadata are all around the disk | 04:36 |
| fabbione | lvm doesn't care about the LABEL data | 04:36 |
| fabbione | i did try that.. trust me | 04:36 |
| fabbione | hitted my head on it for 4 hours | 04:36 |
| Kamion | is there a command to wipe that? I thought there was | 04:36 |
| Kamion | I remember we discussed this before and found one | 04:36 |
| fabbione | you need to do a set of commands | 04:37 |
| fabbione | lvremove -> vgremove -> pvremove | 04:37 |
| fabbione | then you can add the new LABEL | 04:37 |
| fabbione | that was for the RAID | 04:37 |
| Kamion | ah | 04:37 |
| fabbione | not for lvm | 04:37 |
| fabbione | RAID has metadata in one place only for each disk | 04:37 |
| fabbione | lvm is all around the disk | 04:37 |
| fabbione | sort of inodes | 04:37 |
| Kamion | surely it won't look through the whole disk if it doesn't find its superblock-equivalent though | 04:38 |
| fabbione | of course not | 04:38 |
| Kamion | so dd over that :) | 04:38 |
| fabbione | dd means dd the entire disk | 04:38 |
| fabbione | you don't know where the inodes are | 04:38 |
| fabbione | not all of them at least | 04:38 |
| fabbione | but yeah.... dd would be the best :) | 04:38 |
| Kamion | can we use pvremove --force? | 04:39 |
| Kamion | sorry, -ff | 04:39 |
| Kamion | /* we must have -ff to overwrite a non orphan */ | 04:39 |
| fabbione | that will kill the metadata for the partition | 04:39 |
| Kamion | or indeed -ffy - should be a big enough hammer | 04:40 |
| fabbione | i can try that.. yes | 04:40 |
| fabbione | i mean i can test it easily | 04:40 |
| Kamion | right, so if we do that for each partition, then NEW_LABEL, then autopartition, that should probably work | 04:40 |
| fabbione | given i need to cleanup my disk each time i try pal | 04:40 |
| fabbione | that should be sufficient i assume | 04:40 |
| Kamion | yeah, I think s | 04:40 |
| Kamion | so | 04:40 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:41 |
| fabbione | i guess i will start with these stuff | 04:41 |
| Kamion | do we already have a big "you are about to WIPE your DISK!" warning? | 04:41 |
| fabbione | hmmmmm | 04:41 |
| fabbione | i don't think so | 04:41 |
| fabbione | probably partman-auto does | 04:41 |
| fabbione | i don't | 04:41 |
| Kamion | ah, you do, but only on sun disklabels because they need to be committed | 04:42 |
| fabbione | "it sucks to be you if you choose LVM and it didn't work" | 04:42 |
| Kamion | I think you should probably just remove the two label_type = sun conditionals | 04:42 |
| fabbione | that's code i did copy from autopartitioning i think | 04:42 |
| fabbione | or from somewhere inside partman-auto | 04:42 |
| fabbione | why should i? | 04:42 |
| Kamion | right, but you're now becoming a different case because you're doing non-undoable stuff to the disk | 04:42 |
| Kamion | autopartition is only doing stuff that partman can unwind | 04:42 |
| fabbione | right | 04:43 |
| Kamion | up until you actually accept the changes | 04:43 |
| fabbione | true | 04:43 |
| Kamion | ideally p-a-l would be the same, but that sounds non-trivial | 04:43 |
| fabbione | you can't really... | 04:43 |
| Kamion | well, actually, where does stuff go wrong? at the autopartition stage, or later? | 04:43 |
| fabbione | it depends... | 04:43 |
| fabbione | as it is now it works | 04:43 |
| Kamion | if it only goes wrong later, then you could do the pvremove -ffy in a commit.d script | 04:43 |
| Kamion | and then you can preserve the ability to undo changes, which is really nice to have | 04:44 |
| fabbione | yeah but you won't be able to unwind the main partitions | 04:44 |
| Kamion | why not? | 04:44 |
| Kamion | do you actually write them to disk in autopartition? | 04:44 |
| fabbione | because you need to COMMIT to access the partition that will be lvm | 04:44 |
| Kamion | oh, ok | 04:44 |
| fabbione | if you see also manual LVM, it does exactly the same | 04:44 |
| fabbione | it asks you to commit before accessing the LVM menu | 04:44 |
| fabbione | and it makes sense | 04:44 |
| Kamion | right, just pvremove -ffy up front then, and display the warnings unconditionally | 04:44 |
| fabbione | yeps | 04:45 |
| fabbione | if it fails.. well sucks to be you | 04:45 |
| fabbione | buty | 04:45 |
| Kamion | better partman/LVM integration would involve having a representation of LVM partitions in /var/lib/partman/devices/, so that you wouldn't need to commit beforehand | 04:45 |
| fabbione | yeah that's true | 04:45 |
| fabbione | but there are also other problems | 04:45 |
| fabbione | like roundings | 04:45 |
| fabbione | all sizes will be highly incorrect | 04:46 |
| fabbione | but well.. minor details | 04:46 |
| Kamion | mm | 04:46 |
| fabbione | (sorry i need to wake up my wife) | 04:46 |
| fabbione | re | 04:47 |
| fabbione | ok i think for now i am all set | 04:48 |
| fabbione | at least... | 04:48 |
| fabbione | i think i am :) | 04:48 |
| fabbione | thanks a lot Kamion | 04:48 |
| fabbione | it's really nice to work with you | 04:48 |
| Kamion | hope it all works :) | 04:50 |
| fabbione | oh don't worry | 04:50 |
| fabbione | i will come back if it doesnt :P | 04:50 |
| Kamion | heh | 04:50 |
| fabbione | right now i want to get the code to be in a decent state and work | 04:50 |
| fabbione | the next cleanup step will be merging and removing all the duplicate with partman-auto | 04:51 |
| fabbione | because there is really a tons | 04:51 |
| fabbione | that doesn't need to be there | 04:51 |
| fabbione | but for now it's easier for me so that i can fork and merge as i need without disrupting all of partman-auto | 04:51 |
| Kamion | have you got upstream commit access yet? you probably should | 04:53 |
| Kamion | ask joeyh | 04:53 |
| infinity | Kamion : Will d-i be using the same udev firmware-loading mechanism as the base system? (ie: should I be installing udeb firmware to the same filesystem location?) | 04:56 |
| Kamion | infinity: yeah, more or less the same mechanism anyway | 05:00 |
| fabbione | Kamion: no i don't and i would like not to. I will push the patches as they come | 05:00 |
| fabbione | i am keeping the interdiffs | 05:00 |
| fabbione | pvremove -ffy seems to do the trick :) | 05:07 |
| Kamion | cool! | 05:28 |
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| Mithrandir | it's so weird coming back into #debian-boot. Nothing has changed, kinda, except I'm not part of the crowd yet/any more.. I guess it'll work itself out over a few days or weeks. | 11:26 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: mostly the effect of trying to get used to the now-rather-enormous codebase again? | 11:56 |
| Kamion | I do love design discussions like that one just now with joeyh though ... makes me feel like d-i is a real project ;-) | 11:57 |
| Kamion | (real as in big commercial blah) | 11:57 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: nah, more the "I'm not sure whose feet I tread on when doing random crap" | 11:57 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: http://people.debian.org/~fjp/d-i/authors.html might help | 11:58 |
| Mithrandir | has tausq or tbm done anything to d-i lately? | 11:59 |
| Mithrandir | or Marvin? | 11:59 |
| Mithrandir | (not accusing, more "are they still around?" | 12:00 |
| Mithrandir | ) | 12:00 |
| Kamion | tausq hasn't, tbm has done various bits and pieces | 12:00 |
| Kamion | don't think sjogren has been around much at all | 12:00 |
| Mithrandir | he was around _a lot_ in the early phases | 12:01 |
| Kamion | yeah | 12:01 |
| Kamion | tsauter's mostly vanished too | 12:01 |
| Mithrandir | shame that. :-/ | 12:02 |
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