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| mdke | LaserJock, got it, thanks | 12:14 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: ok cool | 12:15 |
| mdke | i'm having a strange issue | 12:15 |
| mdke | the "make server" target in the ubuntu folder isn't working | 12:15 |
| mdke | the command just seems to stop | 12:15 |
| mdke | but the command when run on its own, works fine | 12:15 |
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| mdke | oh no, it is just taking a long time | 12:20 |
| mdke | phew | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | mdke: really, that must be a long time. I thought the same thing | 12:20 |
| mdke | weird | 12:21 |
| mdke | any idea why it is so slow? | 12:21 |
| mdke | it is superfast if you just run the command? | 12:21 |
| mdke | s/?// | 12:21 |
| mdke | i ran the build on our server and it got home ok, but on my laptop it just seems to stop for ages | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm, it does seem to start faster when I do it from the command line | 12:28 |
| mdke | it's weird because I haven't actually changed anything that should make that happen | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | I just timed it on my comp: ~ 3.5 s from command line, ~ 60 s from make server | 12:31 |
| LaserJock | for it to get started | 12:31 |
| mdke | weird | 12:32 |
| LaserJock | I just asked about it in #ubuntu-motu too | 12:36 |
| mdke | good thinking | 12:36 |
| mdke | LaserJock, oh well, I've got a package built, now to do a couple of quick tests | 12:40 |
| mdke | if you've got a working yelp in dapper: http://doc.ubuntu.com/debs/ | 12:40 |
| mdke | ah crap | 12:44 |
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| mdke | jeez i suck | 12:45 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 12:50 |
| mdke | hi there | 12:50 |
| mdke | thanks for coming | 12:50 |
| mdke | here is the problem | 12:50 |
| mdke | go to trunk/ubuntu/Makefile and see right at the bottom there is a "make server" target | 12:51 |
| sistpoty | and it takes quite long... LaserJock already told me on #ubuntu-motu | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | mdke: btw, the link to the html for the server guide is wrong | 12:51 |
| mdke | ah yeah | 12:51 |
| mdke | LaserJock, yeah, fixed :) | 12:51 |
| mdke | LaserJock, what is your email, and the other author of the packagingguide too? | 12:52 |
| mdke | sistpoty, the command is real fast in the command line, but takes ages from the make target :( | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | mdke: its in the .xml file | 12:52 |
| mdke | ok | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | mdke: mine is mantha AT chem.unr.edu | 12:52 |
| sistpoty | mdke: I'm already taking a look ;) | 12:52 |
| mdke | sistpoty, awesome thanks | 12:52 |
| sistpoty | mdke: np... thank me only if i can fix it ;) | 12:53 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I can't rember Ankur's | 12:53 |
| mdke | got it | 12:53 |
| mdke | LaserJock, new debs up | 12:56 |
| mdke | s/debs/deb | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | mdke: k | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | same version number? | 12:57 |
| mdke | sure | 12:57 |
| mdke | i only fixed a couple of tiny things | 12:57 |
| mdke | didn't even put them in the changelog | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | mdke: just wanted to make sure they were there | 12:57 |
| mdke | :) | 12:58 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:58 |
| mdke | i need to read your packaging guide... :) | 12:58 |
| LaserJock | mdke: Honestly, I haven't changed any content from what Unfrgiven did. I actually think it could quite a bit of work still. | 12:59 |
| mdke | cool | 12:59 |
| mdke | most of the docs do :) | 12:59 |
| sistpoty | mdke, LaserJock: it's taking exactly the same time on shell as by makefile (~16 secs on my system) | 12:59 |
| mdke | sistpoty, interesting | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | hmm, that's strange | 01:00 |
| sistpoty | what shell did you use? | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | /bin/bash | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | would it make that much difference? | 01:01 |
| mdke | me too | 01:01 |
| sistpoty | no, it wouldn't... i also used /bin/bash to test | 01:01 |
| sistpoty | did you also do "rm -f ${SERVERBASE}C/*.html" at first? | 01:01 |
| mdke | no... | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | yes, at least once. maybe not all the times though | 01:02 |
| sistpoty | I'm not quite sure what xsltproc does and if it (re)uses any already present files, so maybe that might be the cause | 01:03 |
| mdke | no i've tried it on a clean build dir :( | 01:03 |
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| LaserJock | but maybe doing it on the shell is artifically fast? | 01:03 |
| mdke | dunno, it wasn't this slow an hour ago, i've broken it! | 01:04 |
| mdke | 16 seconds is outrageously fast compared to me | 01:04 |
| mdke | oh well, at least it builds | 01:05 |
| sistpoty | I did this within a shell script... I'll retry on the "real" shell | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | I did "time make server" and I got 3m17s | 01:05 |
| mdke | lol | 01:05 |
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| sistpoty | hm... still no real difference | 01:07 |
| mdke | you're lucky | 01:07 |
| mdke | weird | 01:08 |
| sistpoty | seems like it... is your system running dapper or breezy (still breezy here) | 01:08 |
| mdke | breezy | 01:08 |
| sistpoty | really strange | 01:09 |
| sistpoty | have you tried a clean checkout? | 01:09 |
| mdke | no | 01:10 |
| mdke | i'll do that now | 01:10 |
| sistpoty | ok | 01:10 |
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| mdke | sistpoty, seems to be still happening with a clean checkout | 01:15 |
| sistpoty | that's really strange, because it doesn't happen for me :( | 01:15 |
| mdke | yeah | 01:16 |
| mdke | no idea | 01:16 |
| mdke | sistpoty, well thanks for your time. I'll post to the doc mailing list, hopefully someone will see the problem! | 01:17 |
| sistpoty | ok... I'm just trying another make server... maybe this time it will take longer | 01:18 |
| mdke | heh | 01:18 |
| sistpoty | hm... it _does_ take longer | 01:19 |
| mdke | gah | 01:20 |
| mdke | just rebooting to test the package one last time | 01:20 |
| sistpoty | hm... it still uses same cpu-time... but total time is ~4 mins now... so it must be idle/waiting for s.th. within the makefile | 01:22 |
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| sistpoty | I'll investigate that a little more... but don't hesitate to ask others ;) | 01:24 |
| mdke | thanks a lot dude :) | 01:24 |
| sistpoty | np ;) | 01:24 |
| mdke | LaserJock, the stupid packaging guide still isn't in the yelp menu | 01:25 |
| mdke | oh i know why | 01:25 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: what happened | 01:33 |
| mdke | i forgot to put the omf file in debian/install | 01:34 |
| mdke | it's late... pity me | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | ok, I just took the :server section of the makefile and made a bash script out of it and I get ~1m24s | 01:38 |
| mdke | weird that things should be so slow | 01:39 |
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| mdke | my life is complete | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | mdke: is it in the .deb? | 01:44 |
| mdke | LaserJock, it is now yeah | 01:44 |
| mdke | just the xml | 01:44 |
| mdke | i don't really like the font on the yelp frontpage, it is pretty ugle | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | ok, I gotta go now. I will be back later | 01:45 |
| mdke | bye | 01:45 |
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| Madpilot | hi all | 05:37 |
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| mdke | bhuvan, around? thanks for your email to the list, sounds promising, but the patch means that the serverguide doesn't validate | 09:05 |
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| bhuvan | mdke, ping | 09:21 |
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| dholbach | herllas | 09:23 |
| dholbach | hellas :) | 09:24 |
| dholbach | if you run scrollkeeper-rebuilddb -q (which is run once in a month), you get quite a lot of error messages from desktopguide/serverguide) | 09:24 |
| dholbach | just as a headsup | 09:24 |
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| jsgotangco | hiya | 09:53 |
| Madpilot | hi jsgotangco | 09:53 |
| jsgotangco | hey Madpilot | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | hey robitaille pretty busy eh? | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 09:54 |
| robitaille | jsgotangco, just playing around before going to bed :) | 09:54 |
| robitaille | what do you think of these pages? | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | pretty neat, its really a chore to go through the logs | 09:55 |
| jsgotangco | although someone has to update it everytime a log is added or will it just show the latest minutes? | 09:55 |
| robitaille | exactly. I was going to announce these pages on planet in a day or two, then hopefully others will add to these logs. I miss 90% of the IRC meetings, and hate scanning the logs | 09:56 |
| robitaille | it has to be done manually... | 09:56 |
| robitaille | but added bonus: things will show up from meeting when searching the wiki | 09:56 |
| jsgotangco | why not just link to the html istead of copying/paste to wiki? | 09:57 |
| robitaille | you still have the find the meeting in the long daily log. Some meeting covers two log files. Some days have multiple meetings | 09:57 |
| jsgotangco | ah right | 09:58 |
| robitaille | it's an experiment. If it gets to be too much of chore, I guess it will not get updated | 09:59 |
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| mamoru | hello! is there a russian documentation on GTK+ somewhere? | 11:35 |
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| jjesse | mdke: when you get a chance can you edit the make file for kubuntu so i can build the switching guide? | 03:10 |
| jjesse | mdke: no big hurry on it | 03:10 |
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| mdke | jjesse, sure. it might not build if it doesn't validate, but I'll give it a go tonight | 03:27 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 03:28 |
| mdke | ello | 03:29 |
| mdke | dholbach, thanks for the heads up. I'll try and reproduce those errors | 03:38 |
| dholbach | cool | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | eh? | 03:39 |
| dholbach | <dholbach> if you run scrollkeeper-rebuilddb -q (which is run once in a month), you get quite a lot of error messages from desktopguide/serverguide) | 03:39 |
| dholbach | 6 hours ago :) | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | scrollkeeper love | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | wonder if the single remaining sk error is resolved | 03:40 |
| mdke | dholbach, what sort of error messages are they? the files seem to work alright in yelp | 03:40 |
| jsgotangco | dholbach: are you aware if we're still pursuing LSB or other standard certification? | 03:40 |
| dholbach | jsgotangco: no idea | 03:41 |
| jsgotangco | ok | 03:42 |
| dholbach | /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/serverguide/C/windows-networking.xml:9: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent" | 03:44 |
| dholbach | %gnome-menus-C; | 03:44 |
| dholbach | ^ | 03:44 |
| dholbach | %gnome-menus-C; | 03:44 |
| dholbach | //usr/share/ubuntu-docs/desktopguide/html/C/index.html:155: parser error : Premature end of data in tag link line 5 | 03:44 |
| dholbach | ^ | 03:44 |
| dholbach | and millions of those :) | 03:44 |
| dholbach | i can give you a log | 03:45 |
| mdke | no that's ok | 03:45 |
| mdke | the first one is pretty obvious | 03:45 |
| dholbach | might be just missing files | 03:45 |
| mdke | the second one, dealing with the html, is just weird | 03:46 |
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| dholbach | http://ubuntu.gplan.info/docs/log | 03:49 |
| mdke | i see em | 03:52 |
| mdke | we can fix those I think | 03:53 |
| dholbach | cool | 03:53 |
| dholbach | :_D | 03:53 |
| dholbach | :-D | 03:53 |
| mdke | the problem is that the addresses to the entities in the documents are by relative path | 03:54 |
| mdke | and they are quite inconvenient... | 03:54 |
| mdke | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktopguide.xml | 03:55 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: it seems your boss isn't around that much lately :D | 03:55 |
| mdke | that is a good example | 03:55 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, i've been working relatively hard recently, just taking a break now :) | 03:55 |
| mdke | most of the work i've done recently is in the evenings | 03:55 |
| mdke | hmm | 03:56 |
| mdke | i think the best solution is to install the docs in the distro in a similar structure to how they appear in the repository | 03:56 |
| jsgotangco | so you're in the office? | 03:57 |
| mdke | right now, yeah | 03:57 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 03:57 |
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| mdke | dholbach, btw is it difficult to use 5 in debian/compat? apparently it would allow us to use comments and white lines in debian/install, which would be very cool in terms of clarifying what is going on in that file | 04:10 |
| mdke | gah, yelp has broken now in my dapper | 04:21 |
| mdke | The document /usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-doc-make/C/gnome-doc-make.xml could not be processed. The file /usr/share/yelp/xslt/db2html.xsl is either missing, or it is not a valid XSLT stylesheet. | 04:21 |
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| mdke | dholbach, ok a new package is up which fixes the xml errors, but not the html ones (no idea what the cause of those is) | 04:25 |
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| mdke | hey mpt | 04:39 |
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| Seveas | hi there | 04:44 |
| mdke | hiya | 04:44 |
| Seveas | who was working on the install guide? | 04:44 |
| mdke | Seveas, wiki.u.c/DocteamProjects | 04:44 |
| mdke | but it has seen no action for ages | 04:44 |
| Seveas | ah well, I added the author to the CC list of a bug :) | 04:48 |
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| mdke | Seveas, ah, our install guide isn't published... | 04:49 |
| mdke | it's probably something for Kamion... | 04:49 |
| jsgotangco | perhaps you mean the install guide in the distro> | 04:50 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 04:50 |
| dholbach | mdke: compat 5 is ok with me, if that makes life easier, i'll have a look at the new one later | 04:52 |
| mdke | dholbach, if it is easy to implement, that would rock | 04:52 |
| mdke | my yelp has broken now, even though I still haven't upgraded firefox | 04:53 |
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| mdke | jjesse, done | 06:40 |
| jjesse | mdke: thanks, i'll finish the validation problems and then test it | 06:40 |
| mdke | jjesse, cool :) | 06:47 |
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| ned | hello :-) | 06:54 |
| mdke | hi ned | 06:55 |
| ned | I've just signed up to the mail list but have had no response back... any idea how long it takes? | 06:55 |
| mdke | ned, not sure... the mailing lists are a bit slow recently | 06:56 |
| mdke | ned, maybe wait for a bit and then try again | 06:56 |
| ned | ahh i see - I have made some corrections to a doc - should I just wait until I get a response? | 06:56 |
| mdke | ooh cool | 06:57 |
| ned | :-) | 06:57 |
| mdke | ned, you mailed the list and no one has answered? what is your name and when did you mail? | 06:57 |
| ned | nedsent about half an hour ago - you mean my email address? | 06:58 |
| mdke | oh | 06:58 |
| mdke | i didn't get your mail, i suppose it just hasn't arrived yet | 06:58 |
| mdke | last night my emails were lagged by about 3 hours... | 06:58 |
| ned | hmmm let me check (its all a bit new at the mo) :-) | 06:59 |
| mdke | ned, you had no problems signing up? | 06:59 |
| ned | I have an account for the wiki | 06:59 |
| mdke | you need to subscribe to the mailing list to send emails... | 06:59 |
| mdke | http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc | 07:00 |
| ned | yah thats what i tried - I filled in the details but nothing back yet | 07:00 |
| mdke | ah | 07:00 |
| mdke | it's probably just very slow | 07:00 |
| mdke | sorry! | 07:01 |
| ned | my email is working though | 07:01 |
| mdke | which doc out of interest? | 07:01 |
| ned | http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch01.html | 07:01 |
| ned | it was a preview | 07:02 |
| mdke | ned, yeah that server hosts the html generated from our current repository | 07:07 |
| mdke | cool, well we'll look forward to your mail arriving! | 07:08 |
| ned | I have just re-subscribed just in case :-) | 07:08 |
| ned | thanks! | 07:08 |
| mdke | ah i just got some mail from 20 minutes ago | 07:09 |
| mdke | so it shouldn't be too bad | 07:09 |
| ned | k | 07:09 |
| mdke | WOOHO go jeff | 07:13 |
| jjesse | that sure helps you out | 07:15 |
| mdke | you bet | 07:15 |
| ned | mdke I have received 2 confirmations :-) I should be able to post a bit later on I guess - thanks for the help | 07:35 |
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| Burgwork | mdke, nice work with all the build stuff | 07:46 |
| Burgwork | mdke, but the packaging guide has that draft image which appears to come from the wiki, because you get the cert warning dialog when you first load that page | 07:48 |
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| Burgwork | should I tempt fate and restore RideTheWildElmo one more time | 08:15 |
| mdke | Burgwork, thanks will take a look | 08:26 |
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| Burgwork | mdke, np | 08:41 |
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| sistpoty | mdke: I did quite a crude hack to the makefile and it *is* as fast as on the shell now... should I send you a diff? | 09:00 |
| mdke | sistpoty, one of the guys on the mailing list found the problem | 09:00 |
| mdke | sistpoty, just this evening it got fixed | 09:00 |
| sistpoty | ah :) | 09:00 |
| mdke | sistpoty, i really appreciate your effort though! | 09:01 |
| dholbach | hey sistpoty :) | 09:01 |
| sistpoty | np mdke... I'll take a look at the list, as I still don't know the real reason for the problem *g* | 09:01 |
| mdke | sistpoty, not sure I do either :) | 09:02 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 09:02 |
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| mdke | Burgwork, hang on, you mean the packaging guide on the website? | 09:19 |
| Burgwork | mdke, on doc.ubuntu.com | 09:19 |
| mdke | ah | 09:19 |
| mdke | got confused | 09:19 |
| mdke | i can't remember how we built the packaging guide for the website | 09:21 |
| Burgwork | ah | 09:21 |
| mdke | ah i see it | 09:21 |
| Burgwork | we need to standardize on simply css text for the "draft thing" | 09:21 |
| Burgwork | the image is too busy and makes reading it hard | 09:21 |
| mdke | ok | 09:22 |
| mdke | the other ones are ok? | 09:22 |
| Burgwork | yes, afaict | 09:22 |
| mdke | ok easy then | 09:22 |
| mdke | Burgwork, ok done | 09:30 |
| Burgwork | mdke, cheers | 09:32 |
| mdke | dholbach, by the way, if you want to upload, i think it is ready | 09:34 |
| dholbach | i will look later | 09:34 |
| dholbach | currently in TB meeting | 09:35 |
| mdke | thanks | 09:35 |
| mdke | oh yeah | 09:35 |
| mdke | Burgwork, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ | 09:35 |
| Burgwork | excellent | 09:36 |
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