| jbailey | BenC: Apparently git isn't all setup yet, and CVS should be still considered canonical. | 02:00 |
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| jbailey | BenC: They'renot expecting to be over on git for at least another week. | 02:00 |
| BenC | who's that? | 02:00 |
| BenC | parisc? | 02:01 |
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| zul | BenC: its there now | 02:26 |
| jbailey | BenC: Yes, sorry. =) | 02:31 |
| zul | doh...mental note...dont put anything in /tmp | 02:31 |
| jbailey | It's fine until you reboot. =) | 02:34 |
| zul | duh... | 02:36 |
| zul | :) | 02:36 |
| zul | so when are you coming back? | 02:36 |
| jbailey | Back where? | 02:37 |
| zul | here | 02:37 |
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| jbailey | I *am* here. | 02:37 |
| zul | er...ottawa | 02:37 |
| jbailey | Oh. Mmm. | 02:38 |
| jbailey | Unlikely to be in 2005. | 02:38 |
| zul | ah.. | 02:39 |
| zul | true... | 02:39 |
| jbailey | Maybe in January to hang out with Carlos for a weekend picking his brain on toolchain btis. | 02:39 |
| zul | neato | 02:40 |
| BenC | finally, running 2.6.15-5.7 on all my machines except the a500 | 03:14 |
| BenC | even reverted to stable rt2500 for my mame cabinet | 03:15 |
| zul | heh | 03:17 |
| BenC | infinity: ping | 04:11 |
| jbailey | BenC: It's runnig on the ppc64 and the sparc boxes? | 04:21 |
| infinity | BenC : pong... I'm doing test builds of the vga16fb change... Can you hold off on 5.7 for a bit? | 05:01 |
| infinity | BenC : If you're itching to get it uploaded and go to bed, just do it, and I'll do a 5.8 later when I've tested this stuff more. | 05:06 |
| BenC | jbailey: running on my g4, not ppc64 though | 05:16 |
| BenC | jbailey: but definitely test it, since there were more ppc64 updates this time around | 05:16 |
| BenC | infinity: how soon before you can get the vga16fb patch ready? | 05:16 |
| BenC | infinity: also, what's the ETA on lrm? | 05:17 |
| BenC | infinity: update-initramfs and notifier changes are in 5.7, btw | 05:17 |
| fabbione | mornig guys | 06:40 |
| BenC | hey fabbione | 06:40 |
| fabbione | hey Ben | 06:40 |
| fabbione | still up? | 06:40 |
| BenC | yeah, was hoping to catch adam again | 06:40 |
| BenC | I'd like to wait for the vga16fb patch before uploading -5.7, but I want to see how long he'll be with it | 06:41 |
| fabbione | i think he is out for lunch | 06:42 |
| BenC | I've got -5.7 building cleanly on 5 architectures, I need to do an upload before something breaks it :) | 06:46 |
| fabbione | aahha | 06:46 |
| fabbione | bah crappp!!!!! | 06:46 |
| infinity | BenC : Just upload it, then. I may be up all night. :/ | 06:46 |
| infinity | I'm having a pretty miserable day of one step forward, two steps back. | 06:47 |
| fabbione | so fltk doesn't export opengl stuff on sparc that makes openexr FTBFS that stalls all of KDE | 06:47 |
| fabbione | GO KDE! | 06:47 |
| BenC | infinity: ok, I'll just do another upload when you get that patch ready | 06:47 |
| BenC | infinity: is there anything I can do to help with lrm, so we can get linux-meta updated? | 06:47 |
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| fabbione | BenC: nah.. | 06:49 |
| fabbione | it's better infinity does LRM and get the blames :) | 06:49 |
| BenC | I'm more than willing to put the blame on infinity :) | 06:51 |
| BenC | even if I break it :) | 06:51 |
| fabbione | ehehhe | 06:53 |
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| fabbione | lol | 07:00 |
| fabbione | congratulation dude | 07:01 |
| BenC | don't congratulate me till the buildd's agree with my assessment :) | 07:01 |
| BenC | this time though, I did all my builds through to udeb builds, so I should be good to go | 07:02 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 07:03 |
| fabbione | ok fltk1.1 fixed | 07:03 |
| fabbione | kde will unleash soon | 07:04 |
| fabbione | good night ben | 07:04 |
| fabbione | cya later | 07:04 |
| BenC | good night | 07:04 |
| infinity | BenC : No, I just need to figure out some minor details. | 07:25 |
| fabbione | dilinger: ping? | 07:25 |
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| jbailey | BenC: Checked ppc64, it still fails with the same rtc failure even though you've built it in. | 01:47 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:17 |
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| oldguy | quick ot ok/ | 02:25 |
| jbailey | oldguy: Dad? | 02:27 |
| jbailey | =) | 02:27 |
| oldguy | yeah i m a dad..but got three girls | 02:28 |
| jbailey | I have long hair, but that's as close as I get, sorry. | 02:28 |
| oldguy | im trying to build a 2/6 kernel for netvista and ltsp-4.2..i built an uncompressed kerenl and catted the initramfs onto it..but get unsupported file type.. | 02:29 |
| oldguy | so if vmlinux is unsupported..and vmlinuz is unsupported..what else is there? | 02:30 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 02:38 |
| chrisle | hi | 02:38 |
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| jbailey | BenC, fabbione: What's the word on Xen on Breezy? | 03:06 |
| jbailey | oldguy: You can't cat the initramfs onto a kernel. You have to embed it in the data segment. | 03:07 |
| jbailey | oldguy: Or you can pass it in using the initrd mechanism. | 03:07 |
| fabbione | jbailey: Xen has some kind of .12 support afaik.. but that's it | 03:14 |
| fabbione | jbailey: last time i did try a merge they were at .11 | 03:14 |
| fabbione | and we were shipping .12 | 03:14 |
| jbailey | But it's nothing we support natively. | 03:14 |
| fabbione | nope | 03:14 |
| jbailey | 'kay, thanks, | 03:14 |
| BenC | fedora's .14 based kernel has patches | 03:25 |
| jbailey | Ah, cool. | 03:27 |
| BenC | kick ass, the big three have successful builds for -5.7 | 03:27 |
| BenC | jbailey: feel free to test -5.7 on ppc64 when you get a chance | 03:27 |
| jbailey | It's more someone I have looking for us to support Xen. | 03:27 |
| jbailey | BenC: See my comment to you in this channel from a little under 2 hours ago. =) | 03:27 |
| BenC | jbailey: I looked into it, but the patches are so big and so invasive, I didn't see the point trying at this point | 03:28 |
| BenC | ah | 03:28 |
| fabbione | hmm | 03:28 |
| BenC | jbailey: let me see if there's a kernel command line option that can disable rtc or something | 03:28 |
| fabbione | if we really really want Xen we can pull it in from their development branch | 03:29 |
| jbailey | BenC: 'k | 03:29 |
| BenC | fabbione: is there a Xen git? | 03:29 |
| BenC | IIRC, they are going to try to get it into 2.6.16 | 03:29 |
| fabbione | BenC: there is an hg tree | 03:29 |
| fabbione | the tool that's similar to git | 03:29 |
| fabbione | it's also on kernel.org afaik | 03:29 |
| BenC | fabbione: -5.7 hit your sparc buildd yet? | 03:30 |
| fabbione | http://www.kernel.org/hg/ | 03:30 |
| fabbione | BenC: it's building as we speak | 03:30 |
| BenC | jbailey: can you past the URL to that oops again, please? | 03:32 |
| fabbione | http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/downloads.html | 03:32 |
| fabbione | The public Mercurial repository for Xen, the modified Linux, and the domain control tools is hosted on http://xenbits.xensource.com, where you can browse the source and inspect the | 03:32 |
| fabbione | 15 hours ago: The device sharing check races when more than one file backed vbd is | 03:33 |
| fabbione | author: rread@ubuntu.eng.hq.xensource.com | 03:33 |
| fabbione | *perhaps* we can try to get in touch with that guy :) | 03:34 |
| jbailey | BenC: Hmm, grep isn't turning it up in my logs. | 03:35 |
| BenC | let me check firefox history, what host name would it be? | 03:35 |
| jbailey | That's what I'm trying to remember. =) | 03:36 |
| BenC | lol | 03:36 |
| jbailey | Something ending in .nl =) | 03:36 |
| jbailey | grep pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl * | grep jbailey | 03:37 |
| jbailey | isn't giving me anything. hmm | 03:37 |
| jbailey | No, right! | 03:37 |
| jbailey | I didn't put it in there. | 03:37 |
| jbailey | I took a picture instead. | 03:37 |
| dilinger | fabbione: pong | 03:38 |
| jbailey | http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/P1010042.JPG | 03:38 |
| BenC | thanks | 03:38 |
| jbailey | BenC: If you want I can update it for -5.7 | 03:38 |
| BenC | yeah, that'd be nice. see if you can get the whole screen aswell | 03:38 |
| fabbione | dilinger: hey.. thanks i did manage without :) | 03:40 |
| infinity | BenC : Okay, LRM ABI switches are now a one-button affair, much like linux-meta, but MUCH SCARIER under the hood. | 03:43 |
| infinity | BenC : So, once this thing &#@$ing builds for me, your minor maintenance tasks with it should be a no-brainer. | 03:43 |
| BenC | if I ever have to pop the hood, I'll be sure to take it to the shop(you) rather than work on it myself :) | 03:43 |
| === infinity kisses hardcoded kernel versoins and annoying *_minor stuff goodbye. | ||
| infinity | Of course, now I have an irritating QT build issue to deal with. | 03:45 |
| === BenC adds ia64 to the successful builds for -5.7 | ||
| infinity | About time. | 03:48 |
| BenC | so far everything has built fine | 03:49 |
| BenC | I expect sparc to build, but I know hppa will fail | 03:49 |
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| fabbione | BenC: sparc is at 64-smp (half way) | 03:50 |
| BenC | it had been so long since I booted my i2k this weekend, I actually had to smack it on the side of the case to get it to power on | 03:50 |
| fabbione | it won't take much much longer | 03:50 |
| BenC | fabbione: sweet | 03:51 |
| fabbione | i am falling asleep and partman-auto-lvm on ppc is winning 2:0 | 03:51 |
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| fabbione | time for coffe and smoking bof | 03:51 |
| BenC | opinions...in linux-meta, because {686,k7}-smp are going away, should I make the linux-{image,headers}-{686,k7}-smp meta packages depend on linux-{image,headers}-{686,k7} meta packages or make them depend on the kernel-abi-version packages directly (sans the -smp)? | 03:56 |
| infinity | Make them depend on the other meta packages, so we can eventually remove the SMP packages. | 03:57 |
| BenC | that's what I was thinking | 03:57 |
| infinity | (Assuming we want to down the road) | 03:57 |
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| BenC | lamont: ia64 built :) | 03:58 |
| lamont | BenC: woot! | 03:58 |
| lamont | and hppa is still git-ftbfs? | 03:58 |
| BenC | yeah | 03:58 |
| BenC | if we had 64-bit hppa64 userspace, it wouldn't be a problem :) | 03:59 |
| lamont | well, yeah | 04:00 |
| jbailey | lamont: willy said to keep using CVS for at least another week. | 04:01 |
| lamont | ah, I see. | 04:01 |
| BenC | probably take a week to get a decent patch out of CVS anyway :) | 04:04 |
| BenC | anyone packaged git 0.99.9x for ubuntu yet, or even debian? | 04:05 |
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| oldguy | jbailey: thanks..gonna try an experiment | 04:06 |
| BenC | debian has it...we should grab that to dapper | 04:06 |
| fabbione | BenC: i think we already sync that automatically | 04:08 |
| BenC | universe? | 04:08 |
| BenC | yep, there it is, thanks | 04:09 |
| BenC | jbailey: can you disable the hwclock problem (mv it out of the way, and symlink to /bin/true, e.g.) and see where you get after that? | 04:12 |
| jbailey | BenC: You scare me. | 04:12 |
| jbailey | But okay. =) | 04:12 |
| BenC | disable hwclock program I meant | 04:12 |
| jbailey | Is that really the only thing that will cause an rtc event? | 04:12 |
| jbailey | Or should I avoid using this system for much after that? | 04:13 |
| oldguy | rootcd /opt/lytsp/i386-4.2 | 04:13 |
| BenC | nothing else should | 04:13 |
| jbailey | 'k | 04:13 |
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| BenC | everything else should use the system clock rather than the rtc directly | 04:13 |
| infinity | (should) | 04:15 |
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| BenC | odd that his system seems to oops/freeze on sig 7 from I/O accesses, I would have thought that hw traps would recover from that | 04:20 |
| BenC | jbailey: running? | 04:20 |
| jbailey | $ uname -a | 04:20 |
| jbailey | Linux starshine 2.6.15-5-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Nov 29 07:20:51 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux | 04:20 |
| BenC | sweet | 04:20 |
| BenC | ready to attempt to crash it? :) | 04:20 |
| BenC | cat /proc/drivers/rtc | 04:20 |
| jbailey | The only observation so far is that power mgmt is also a bit broken. | 04:20 |
| jbailey | The fans are slowly speeding up. | 04:21 |
| BenC | odd | 04:21 |
| jbailey | Should I be on the console for that? =) | 04:21 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:21 |
| jbailey | NO such file or directory | 04:21 |
| jbailey | mm | 04:22 |
| jbailey | driver singular. | 04:22 |
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| jbailey | BenC: I got an oops, but no crash. | 04:22 |
| BenC | well, it's a start | 04:22 |
| BenC | can you email me the oops? | 04:22 |
| infinity | Did you actually get any output? :) | 04:22 |
| BenC | yeah, did any output come out, or did the cat process lockup? | 04:23 |
| jbailey | BenC: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5190 | 04:23 |
| BenC | well, it would have to get to the end of the proc function before the buffer was returned to the user | 04:23 |
| BenC | jbailey: thanks | 04:23 |
| jbailey | (Recovered from dmesg so I can just paste) | 04:24 |
| BenC | that's not what I expected | 04:24 |
| BenC | I was expecting to see rtc_get_rtc_time() again | 04:25 |
| BenC | heh, that can't be good :) | 04:26 |
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| BenC | jbailey: thanks, I'll be able to do more with this dmesg now | 04:26 |
| BenC | maybe I'll have something you can test later, if you have time | 04:27 |
| jbailey | Apparently doing it a second time to see if there was any output crashes the machine. =) | 04:27 |
| BenC | at the very least, a little sprinkling of printk's to see where it actually oopses | 04:27 |
| jbailey | BenC: Cool. I'll try to run anything I need long term in screen sessions on other machines. =) | 04:27 |
| jbailey | infinity: At some point when you're bored... ;) | 04:37 |
| infinity | ? | 04:50 |
| infinity | Not that that point is now, but I may want to plan for the future. | 04:50 |
| mjg59 | Is usplash working for everyone now? | 04:51 |
| mjg59 | And what magic does it need in its postinst? | 04:51 |
| infinity | a) Don't know | 04:52 |
| infinity | b) update-initramfs -u | 04:52 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Is the 640x400 patch submitted yet? | 05:00 |
| mjg59 | I want to shift to 640x400 artwork in the next usplash upload | 05:00 |
| infinity | Too focussed on making LRM work. :/ | 05:14 |
| infinity | If yo uhave a tested patch, give it to BenC, otherwise I'll do mine tomorrowish. | 05:14 |
| jbailey | infinity: I have instruction here on making kdump work to store OOPS information when it happens. | 05:14 |
| jbailey | infinity: I collected it at OLS last year, and dug it up a couple days ago. | 05:15 |
| infinity | Though, you should be able to switch the artwork anyway, since artwork that's smaller than the fb isn't a problem. | 05:15 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 05:15 |
| infinity | (As evidenced by the tiny artwork in the middle of my massive vesafb) | 05:15 |
| BenC | usplash looks tiny on my readonfb at 1024x768 | 05:16 |
| infinity | (What will happen with artwork that's bigger than the FB?... For people upgrading?) | 05:16 |
| BenC | anyway to scale usplash on higher resolutions? :) | 05:16 |
| infinity | BenC : Did you see it on my 1400x1050? | 05:16 |
| BenC | nah, hehe | 05:17 |
| infinity | Speaking of seeing things on my laptop, did you finally finish watching Family Guy and regain productivity? :) | 05:17 |
| BenC | I have about 10 episodes left to watch :) | 05:17 |
| === mjg59 uploads new usplash | ||
| mjg59 | Also: usplash needs to check if the display is capable of 256 colours | 05:18 |
| infinity | mjg59 : I don't suppose that one daemonises (and removes the sleep from the init)? | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | Nope | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | I'll do that next time | 05:18 |
| infinity | Kay. I'll do that the first time I touch it, then. | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | Can you file a bug? | 05:18 |
| infinity | Unless you're on a warpath. :) | 05:18 |
| mjg59 | Well, I'm in bed, ill | 05:18 |
| infinity | Which, obviously, leads to hacking graphical boot thingees. | 05:19 |
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| lucasvo | hi | 05:39 |
| lucasvo | I would like to make a clustering system with upstream compatible Kernel for terminal server. What do you suggest? | 05:41 |
| mjg59 | I have found scary ways of helping vesafb survive suspend/resume | 05:41 |
| BenC | lucasvo: I don't undetstand your question | 05:42 |
| BenC | terminal server and clustering conflict in my brain | 05:42 |
| lucasvo | BenC: I would like to develop clustering which may be included by ubuntu | 05:42 |
| BenC | what sort of clustering? | 05:43 |
| infinity | mjg59 : It always has done for me anyway. | 05:43 |
| lucasvo | if one uses powerful ltsp clients, one could use them for clustering | 05:43 |
| lucasvo | BenC: like openmosix | 05:43 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Yeah, it doesn't here | 05:43 |
| BenC | mjg59: FYI, the fb-no-write patch is in -5.7 | 05:43 |
| infinity | BenC : LRM has turned into a mauch larger headache than I'd originally hoped. I'm going to go catch a 4 hour nap (It's 4am now) and finish up in the morning. :/ | 05:44 |
| BenC | lucasvo: oh, you lost me, I don't do much with that sort of thing | 05:44 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Thanks | 05:44 |
| lucasvo | BenC: ok | 05:44 |
| BenC | infinity: ok | 05:44 |
| BenC | lucasvo: but I still don't know what you are asking..."what do you suggest" is very vague :) | 05:44 |
| lucasvo | BenC: I need a clustering system which is accepted by ubuntu policy | 05:45 |
| BenC | we have ocfs2, but I'm not sure if that suits your needs, since it's only a clustering filesystem | 05:46 |
| lucasvo | BenC: exactly, I need RAM/CPU sharing | 05:46 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: we don't have that solution yet | 05:46 |
| BenC | and "accepted by ubuntu policy" is something you'll have to gain somewhere down the line, it's not something that can be decided before hand | 05:46 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: and probably won't | 05:46 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: what kind of clustering exactly are you looking for? | 05:47 |
| BenC | fabbione: what is the clustering thing that was talked about at UBZ? | 05:47 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: something like openmosix or a batch/queue/job scheduler? | 05:48 |
| BenC | some IBM thing | 05:48 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: yes, I want to make one for ubuntu | 05:48 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: yes | 05:48 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: yes it's not an answer to what i did ask :). | 05:48 |
| BenC | there's another guy wanting to do the same thing | 05:48 |
| BenC | and pretty much, he is having to do his work outside of ubuntu, in the hopes that he can prove its viability for dapper+1 | 05:48 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: hm I didn't see the or | 05:48 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: I mean something like openmosix | 05:49 |
| fabbione | BenC: i don't remember talkign about IBM solutions really.. but we have something on the boilerplate | 05:49 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: no, we won't have openmosix or similar solution for some time | 05:49 |
| BenC | fabbione: maybe it was HP | 05:49 |
| fabbione | BenC: yeah HP | 05:50 |
| fabbione | openssi | 05:50 |
| BenC | lucasvo: email -devel about it and see if you can catch the attention of other people (and there are some) looking to do the same | 05:50 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: what I would like to do is to include a clustering system into ubuntu which is accepted by upstream | 05:50 |
| BenC | yeah, that's it | 05:50 |
| lucasvo | BenC: ubuntu-devel? | 05:50 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuClusters | 05:50 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: most of solutions like openmosix are for 2.4 kernels only | 05:51 |
| BenC | lucasvo: yeah | 05:51 |
| fabbione | and we don't support 2.4 | 05:51 |
| fabbione | porting to 2.6 is on the way but still at a too early stage to be even considered | 05:51 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: there is some 2.6 code at openmosix but it is not accepted by Linus | 05:51 |
| BenC | as we discussed at the last Developers Summit, a group will have to develop this outside of ubuntu proper, and then seek inclusion, so I suggest getting on the bandwagon with people who want to do the same to avoid extra work and conflicts | 05:51 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: because the userland is broken. | 05:52 |
| fabbione | and the patch for 2.6 probably sucks | 05:52 |
| fabbione | BenC: exactly | 05:52 |
| BenC | lucasvo: accepted by upstream as in linus? | 05:52 |
| BenC | don't see that happening with many clustering systems | 05:53 |
| lucasvo | I mean this use case: Hospital delta is deploying hundreds of thin clients with Ubuntu and LTSP, and wants complete failover for the terminal services. | 05:53 |
| lucasvo | BenC: yes | 05:54 |
| BenC | it will get into ubuntu before it gets into kernel proper :) | 05:54 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: that's not an openmosix cluster | 05:54 |
| BenC | why the criteria for inclusion with linus? | 05:54 |
| fabbione | that's a HA cluster | 05:54 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: yes | 05:55 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: but I actually want HPC | 05:56 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: we don't have it and we won't for a while :) same answer as before. ;) | 05:56 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: we might be able to provide slurm (job queue scheduler) | 05:57 |
| fabbione | but that's it for dapper | 05:57 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: I am not talking about dapper more about dapper+ 1 or 2 | 05:57 |
| lucasvo | fabbione: and I would like to develop it, I don't want out of the box solution | 05:58 |
| fabbione | lucasvo: from here to dapper+1 there are at least another 10 months.. perhaps by that time there will be available solution.. | 05:58 |
| fabbione | who knows.. | 05:58 |
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| zul | hola fabbione | 06:08 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 06:08 |
| BenC | yo zul | 06:09 |
| zul | hey benco | 06:10 |
| BenC | jbailey: ping | 06:11 |
| zul | ugh..this is an ugly website | 06:17 |
| zul | http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org/ | 06:17 |
| fabbione | BenC: sparc is at dpkg-deb now :) | 06:19 |
| BenC | fabbione: sparc success will finally mean an upload went as planned :) | 06:20 |
| fabbione | ehehhe | 06:20 |
| BenC | goal for -6 is to disable all the drivers that have missing symbols (mostly smp and 64-bit incompatible drivers) | 06:21 |
| fabbione | yeah | 06:22 |
| fabbione | i saw a bunch | 06:22 |
| BenC | wow, linus tagged 2.6.15-rc3 just a mere 29 minutes after I tagged 2.6.15-5.7 | 06:24 |
| BenC | my timing is improving :) | 06:24 |
| dilinger | heh | 06:25 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 06:25 |
| zul | slacker | 06:25 |
| zul | :) | 06:25 |
| zul | BenC: i wrote a patch for the atkbd last night its in my git archive | 06:32 |
| fabbione | zul: patch to do what? | 06:32 |
| zul | remove that unknown key bullshit | 06:32 |
| zul | fabbione: http://zulinux.homelinux.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=ubuntu-2.6.git;a=commit;h=1ec11f9bc0963516a9b944e43fb89fbf5545a27b | 06:37 |
| BenC | silly printk, warnings are for developers | 06:40 |
| fabbione | bah it's just a warning | 06:41 |
| fabbione | linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-5.7: successful | 06:42 |
| BenC | but it causes uneeded bug reports | 06:42 |
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| BenC | sweet | 06:42 |
| BenC | cool, latest git has --no-merge for git-pull | 06:43 |
| BenC | so you can inspect before merging and committing | 06:43 |
| fabbione | eheh | 06:44 |
| fabbione | i didn't play with git that much | 06:44 |
| fabbione | i rely mostly on what you tell me | 06:44 |
| fabbione | + my ppc is down until i can unfuck partman-auto-lvm | 06:44 |
| zul | fabbione: i know but a user complained about it and its annoying the fuck out of me on my laptop | 06:48 |
| fabbione | BenC: | 06:48 |
| fabbione | fabbione willy: i am cool with that.. ben is merging rc3 and i was wondering when we could pull from you.. i expect lamont wants that ;) | 06:48 |
| fabbione | willy fabbione: keep pulling from cvs | 06:48 |
| fabbione | ^^ hppa tree | 06:48 |
| BenC | fabbione: not only that, but even if we switch it to KERN_INFO, it will still cause uneeded fillage of kern.log (and clearing of the dmesg buffer) | 06:49 |
| BenC | fabbione: I'll leave it up to lamont to get me a diff from CVS | 06:49 |
| fabbione | BenC: is there actually anything that use that output? iirc we were using it to track kernel -> X -> gnome keyboard issues | 06:50 |
| fabbione | BenC: didn't you pull from hppa git once? | 06:50 |
| BenC | fabbione: yeah | 06:50 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:51 |
| lamont | BenC: once they finish the rc3 merge, I'll gen a diff | 06:51 |
| BenC | not sure about tracking the keys | 06:51 |
| fabbione | lamont: better if you push them to move to git :P | 06:51 |
| BenC | yeah, there's a freaking CVS tool fot git anyway :) | 06:52 |
| lamont | fabbione: the trick is to help them get the infrastructure git-happy, and then it'll happen... it's not that they don't want to move. | 06:52 |
| lamont | BenC: its the autobuild stuff, and such | 06:52 |
| BenC | ah | 06:52 |
| lamont | bunch of home-grown tools to do thing | 06:52 |
| lamont | s | 06:52 |
| fabbione | lamont: yeah i understand that... | 06:52 |
| BenC | I'm a little leary of taking a cold monolithic patch for hppa, if they will get around to being in git real soon | 06:53 |
| fabbione | that's exactly what i was thinking | 06:53 |
| BenC | maybe we can do what fabbione and I discussed and just run patch/unpatch for that one diff | 06:53 |
| fabbione | but you might endup duplicating the merge work | 06:53 |
| BenC | or I might be off by a line or two and cause uneeded deltas in our tree | 06:54 |
| fabbione | since they do it and you have to do it to pull in rc3 | 06:54 |
| fabbione | perhaps talk with them and see how to handle it best? | 06:54 |
| lamont | gah. git-core goes through 0.99.9i, and then it's git_0.99.9j - wish they'd make up their mind | 06:55 |
| BenC | lamont: apt-get install git-core (from dapper universe) | 06:56 |
| BenC | fabbione: bah, git-core is not built for sparc yet! :) | 06:58 |
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| fabbione | BenC: hmmm probably | 06:58 |
| fabbione | git-core: | 06:59 |
| fabbione | Package : git-core | 06:59 |
| fabbione | Version : 0.99.9j-1 | 06:59 |
| fabbione | State : Needs-Build | 06:59 |
| fabbione | yeah | 06:59 |
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| fabbione | ahhahahahah | 06:59 |
| fabbione | BenC: the universe buildd is almost at the end of gcc-snapshot | 07:00 |
| fabbione | that's probably why it didn't built yet | 07:00 |
| fabbione | and i did unleash the kde mess just today | 07:00 |
| fabbione | so the main buildd is like utterly busy | 07:01 |
| BenC | fabbione: FYI, if you have trouble finding an affordable ultra for the DC, I know where you can get UE 4500's for pretty cheap | 07:01 |
| fabbione | BenC: you should tell that to elmo/znarl.. but afaik they are looking into new hw | 07:02 |
| fabbione | it needs to be as small as possible (size wise) | 07:02 |
| fabbione | because we pay hosting by size | 07:02 |
| fabbione | but i am not sure 100% | 07:02 |
| fabbione | things keep changing on a daily base | 07:02 |
| BenC | yeah, the 4500 isn't small, but it's cheap and powerful | 07:03 |
| fabbione | yeah i know | 07:03 |
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| fabbione | ok time to stop for today | 07:06 |
| fabbione | or better | 07:06 |
| fabbione | start cooking some real food | 07:06 |
| === lamont builds -9k on breezy | ||
| lamont | git push ssh://rookery.ubuntu.com/home/lamont/public_html/archives/ubuntu-2.6.git | 07:16 |
| lamont | bash: git-receive-pack: command not found | 07:16 |
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| lamont | and grumbles, too | 07:16 |
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| lamont | BenC: would you be so kind as to send RT a request to install git on rookery? | 07:16 |
| lamont | meanwhile, I've updated ~/.bashrc | 07:18 |
| BenC | on rookery, you can point to my git bin's | 07:18 |
| lamont | only if .bashrc says to | 07:18 |
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| BenC | lamont: done | 07:27 |
| BenC | well, rt ticket sent, not installed yet :) | 07:27 |
| lamont | right | 07:30 |
| lamont | thanks | 07:30 |
| lamont | 'tis better coming from you, and all that. | 07:30 |
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| CataEnry | bye all | 08:26 |
| zul | garrr...i hate batch files | 08:28 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: ACPI sleep support doesn't seem to be getting initialised on i386, for some reason | 09:14 |
| BenC | mjg59: ok, I'll look at it in a little bit | 09:15 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Uhm. CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP is missing | 09:17 |
| mjg59 | On -686, at least | 09:17 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Also, http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/11/29/74 | 09:22 |
| mjg59 | Can we grab that? | 09:22 |
| BenC | Kconfig shows "depends ... (!SMP ...)" for ACPI_SLEEP | 09:25 |
| BenC | I'll get that patch, sure | 09:25 |
| BenC | is suspend/resume not compatible with smp? | 09:25 |
| mjg59 | I was under the impression it had been fixed | 09:38 |
| mjg59 | But that may not have been merged yet | 09:38 |
| mjg59 | BenC: If we can't fix that, then I guess we'll have to go back to UP kernels | 09:40 |
| BenC | I can do another pull from acpi git and see | 09:43 |
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| mjg59 | Looks like there were patches in April | 09:45 |
| mjg59 | They may never have been merged | 09:45 |
| mjg59 | The acpi git tree doesn't seem to have been updated in months | 09:46 |
| BenC | are you checking the right acpi branch? | 09:55 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Which is the right one? | 09:55 |
| BenC | I'm using the "test" branch that -mm uses | 09:55 |
| mjg59 | Ah | 09:55 |
| BenC | lamont: ping | 09:56 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, last one there seems to be September | 09:56 |
| mjg59 | The code isn't in -mm now. It was back in 2.6.12 time. | 09:58 |
| BenC | -mm is pulling from that test git branch is all | 10:02 |
| mjg59 | Well, either we forward-port the stuff from 6 months ago, or we go back to shipping UP kernels | 10:04 |
| BenC | how large was the "works on smp" stuff? | 10:10 |
| BenC | a huge portion of the acpi stuff was already merged, so we can't just apply the acpi dpatch from breezy | 10:11 |
| mjg59 | I don't know if we had it in Breezy | 10:20 |
| mjg59 | And I can't find the patches nicely bundled anywhere | 10:20 |
| mjg59 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.12/2.6.12-mm1/broken-out/ seems to be the latest ones | 10:23 |
| mjg59 | Various patches from there are needed | 10:23 |
| mjg59 | But it looks like there's runtime checks /anyway/ | 10:26 |
| mjg59 | So just force the !SMP for now? | 10:26 |
| mjg59 | Hang on | 10:28 |
| mjg59 | It looks like there's support for it | 10:28 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Nngh | 10:29 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Can you just turn on CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU? | 10:29 |
| mjg59 | That ought to make it work | 10:30 |
| BenC | ok | 10:38 |
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| dilinger | this machine loves to hang for 1/2 a second at random times since upgrading to breezy :/ | 10:44 |
| BenC | lamont: ping | 10:52 |
| zul^ | later folks | 10:52 |
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| BenC | lamont: I got a hppa64-smp vmlinux | 11:11 |
| BenC | lamont: most of the breezy hppa patch was in the git, except the compat signal/siginfo stuff, which wasn't that much | 11:11 |
| BenC | I'll try to boot it shortly | 11:12 |
| lamont | oh, way cool | 11:13 |
| BenC | mjg69: enabled hotplug_cpu for amd64 and i386 targets, along with acpi sleep/suspend stuff | 11:13 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Rock, thanks | 11:20 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Does that break ABI? | 11:20 |
| BenC | doing an abi bump anyway, since I synced a lot from linus | 11:20 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 11:21 |
| mjg59 | Any ETA on uploading it? | 11:21 |
| BenC | lamont: do you have a breezy palo.conf I can look at? | 11:21 |
| BenC | mjg59: 2-3 days, depending on lrm and vga16fb patch | 11:21 |
| mjg59 | Suspend/resume tends to show breakage at all sorts of inopportune moments, so it'd be good to get as much testing time as possible | 11:21 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ok, sounds good | 11:21 |
| BenC | just glad we could enable it without a lot of extra patching :) | 11:22 |
| lamont | BenC: yeah | 11:22 |
| BenC | and /etc/kernel-img.conf if you don't mind | 11:23 |
| BenC | my system is just a dist-upgraded woody box (really old) | 11:23 |
| lamont | btw, if you're so inclined, please enable BLK_DEV_IDEPCI, BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI, and then BLK_DEV_NS87415 - fabbione and I will thank you | 11:23 |
| lamont | all hppa configs, as modules where appropriate | 11:23 |
| BenC | ok, I wont need those for my A500, right? | 11:24 |
| lamont | no, the NS87415 chipset is a PCI IDE chipset that is used for the J[57] 000 and others. | 11:24 |
| lamont | as well as some sparc64 machines. | 11:24 |
| lamont | so as it sits, I get to net-install J series boxen | 11:25 |
| BenC | sure thing | 11:29 |
| BenC | lamont: confs? | 11:33 |
| lamont | as in, you want me to make configs that I'm happy with and point you at them, yes? | 11:36 |
| BenC | or paste ones you already have :) | 11:36 |
| BenC | I'm not sure how to setup palo.conf for initrd and *.old stuff | 11:36 |
| lamont | ah, ok. we currently have kernel-package tweaked to default to initrd (instead of initramfs) for hppa/ia64, if that's what you mean | 11:37 |
| lamont | cat /etc/palo.conf | 11:38 |
| lamont | --commandline=2/vmlinux root=/dev/sda5 initrd=2/initrd.img HOME=/ | 11:38 |
| lamont | --recoverykernel=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.12-9-hppa32-smp | 11:38 |
| lamont | --init-partitioned=/dev/sda | 11:38 |
| lamont | that's what palo.conf looks like for me. | 11:38 |
| BenC | ok | 11:38 |
| lamont | cat /etc/kernel-img.conf | 11:38 |
| lamont | do_symlinks = yes | 11:38 |
| lamont | relative_links = yes | 11:38 |
| lamont | do_bootloader = no | 11:38 |
| lamont | do_bootfloppy = no | 11:38 |
| lamont | do_initrd = yes | 11:38 |
| lamont | link_in_boot = yes | 11:38 |
| lamont | both stock install results | 11:38 |
| BenC | thanks | 11:38 |
| lamont | the list I gave you above of BLK_DEV defines is the dependency chain to turn on NS87415, fwiw | 11:39 |
| BenC | yeah, already done in my git | 11:39 |
| BenC | so it will be in the next upload | 11:39 |
| lamont | thanks | 11:41 |
| BenC | lamont: here goes nothing... | 11:56 |
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| BenC | hippo:~# uname -a | 12:00 |
| BenC | Linux hippo 2.6.15-6-hppa64-smp #1 SMP Tue Nov 29 16:26:27 EST 2005 parisc64 GNU/Linux | 12:00 |
| === BenC does a little dance | ||
| BenC | lamont: you can thank me with a beer at the next dev summit :) | 12:01 |
| lamont | YIPPEEE!!!! | 12:03 |
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