| lamont | now we just need a working klibc, and we can go to initramfs | 12:04 |
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| BenC | i got a WARN_ON() in free_initmem(), but it looks harmless | 12:05 |
| lamont | yeah - that's um, expected | 12:05 |
| BenC | well, it calls smp_call_function during a point when I belive irqs aren't enabled yet, so it makes sense :) | 12:06 |
| BenC | going to do a full binary-arch build now to make sure udeb creation works and all | 12:10 |
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| infinity | How many arches are still building the kernel with gcc-3.4? | 05:00 |
| infinity | Just hppa? | 05:00 |
| BenC | yeah | 05:09 |
| infinity | So dangeoursly close to LRM working right now... | 05:22 |
| infinity | OTOH, after all this effort, the thing may well maintain itself for the rest of the release cycle without me touching it. | 05:23 |
| infinity | Which would be nice. | 05:23 |
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| ispiked | mjg59: did you ever play with the stick and buttons not working on resume from hibernate on your laptop? | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | ispiked: Works fine on mine | 05:59 |
| ispiked | mjg59: it's in and out on mine. | 06:00 |
| ispiked | mjg59: you wouldn't know anything about messing with the wireless on/off light, would you? | 06:01 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, there's a kernel option to enable it | 06:03 |
| mjg59 | In the Intel case, it's driven by the card | 06:03 |
| ispiked | hrm... | 06:05 |
| ispiked | if it's enabled does it work? | 06:06 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 06:06 |
| mjg59 | But it's an experimental option, so it's not enabled yet | 06:06 |
| ispiked | where is the code and what's the option? | 06:07 |
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| mjg59 | Oh, it might actually be built in | 06:08 |
| mjg59 | Check modinfo -p ipw2200 | 06:08 |
| ispiked | yeah, it's there. the question is how to get it on. | 06:10 |
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| ispiked | ooh. lemme try the readme. | 06:11 |
| ispiked | mjg59: got it working. now for the bluetooth light. | 06:26 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 09:30 |
| CataEnry | bbl | 10:09 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 10:26 |
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| BenC | jbailey: ping | 02:19 |
| jbailey | BenC: pong | 02:22 |
| BenC | jbailey: get my email regarding ac880 for that customer? | 02:22 |
| jbailey | BenC: I did, thanks. Do they need the new kernel that you're about to upload, or do they need the next one that will go in? | 02:23 |
| BenC | -6.8, which will be my next upload | 02:23 |
| BenC | jbailey: I got to thinking that maybe, if I fix the crash in breezy, the sound will work, but the hda driver is so different between the two that I have no idea if that's a correct assumption or not | 02:24 |
| jbailey | And I need to test a ppc64 kernel for you. | 02:24 |
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| BenC | jbailey: I may do a test kernel build with the fix for 2.6.12-10, and we can let them test that in the meantime, if you'd like | 02:24 |
| BenC | yes, that would be nice, thanks :) | 02:25 |
| jbailey | It seems like the best thing to do is get them to test the next dapper kernel, first. | 02:25 |
| jbailey | That way we know that the problem is actually completely solved in the development branch. | 02:26 |
| BenC | I'm almost 100% sure that it is fixed in dapper now, but a test would be a good idea | 02:27 |
| crimsun | which codec for hda-intel? | 02:27 |
| BenC | ac880 | 02:27 |
| crimsun | if it's alc, it should be. | 02:27 |
| crimsun | yeah. | 02:27 |
| BenC | alc880, yeah | 02:27 |
| BenC | I added the one-liner fix from l-k, so that should fix it | 02:27 |
| crimsun | great :) | 02:28 |
| jbailey | rebooting for 2.6.15 test, bbias | 02:28 |
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| jbailey | 'kay, I'm on 2.6.15. | 02:32 |
| jbailey | BenC: You wanted my dmesg if the fan staarts speeding up? It sounds like it might, but I can't tell yet. | 02:33 |
| BenC | just full dmesg | 02:33 |
| BenC | just so I can see if there's anything weird | 02:33 |
| jbailey | 'kay, /me emails /var/log/dmesg | 02:33 |
| jbailey | Yup, it's speeidng up. | 02:33 |
| BenC | and then "cat /proc/driver/rtc" | 02:33 |
| BenC | and the full part of that (including any "BENC: ..." lines | 02:34 |
| BenC | it will oops, just so you know :) | 02:34 |
| BenC | I didn't fix anything | 02:34 |
| jbailey | You asked about whether the command succeeded, I appear to get a bus error. | 02:35 |
| jbailey | I've emailed /var/log/dmesg and the oops to you. | 02:36 |
| jbailey | Anything else you need? If not, I'll reboot to the older kernel so that the fans can shut off. =) | 02:37 |
| BenC | did any BENC lines get printed in the oops? | 02:37 |
| jbailey | Two, at the top | 02:37 |
| BenC | sweet, thanks | 02:37 |
| BenC | that should be it | 02:37 |
| jbailey | [ 260.287465] BENC: Obtaining rtc_lock in rtc_proc_show | 02:37 |
| jbailey | [ 260.287474] BENC: at 1157 | 02:37 |
| jbailey | Cool | 02:37 |
| BenC | just as I suspected | 02:37 |
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| BenC | jbailey: can you do "dmesg | grep BogoMIPS" on your breezy kernel? | 02:43 |
| BenC | and also, just to be sure, can you do "cat /proc/driver/rtc" | 02:44 |
| BenC | no need to send me any output, just need to know the bogomips | 02:45 |
| BenC | and if the cat worked ok | 02:45 |
| jbailey | root@starshine:~# dmesg | grep BogoMIPS | 02:49 |
| jbailey | [ 27.452696] Calibrating delay loop... 66.56 BogoMIPS (lpj=33280) | 02:49 |
| jbailey | BenC: And the cat works fine. | 02:50 |
| BenC | guess bogomips is just supposed to be that low for ppc | 02:50 |
| BenC | thanks | 02:50 |
| jbailey | BenC: I think this box has cpu scaling. | 02:50 |
| BenC | even my G4 only shows ~45, and I don't think it has scaling | 02:51 |
| BenC | my i386 shows 4000 :) | 02:51 |
| infinity | Your G4 shows 45 bogomips? | 02:53 |
| infinity | That's weird that they use a different loop for G3 and G4, since they're virtually identical. | 02:54 |
| infinity | (My G3 is ~2000 bogomips..) | 02:54 |
| jbailey | G3's were clearly 'leeter. | 02:54 |
| fabbione | your G3 cheats to look cooler | 02:54 |
| infinity | Well, they were. | 02:54 |
| infinity | Full speed cache. | 02:54 |
| infinity | (And who needsa altivec anyway?) | 02:55 |
| infinity | Still, odd. Something to ask benh about some day, and he'll say "Like I remember why I did that", and I'll go "oh.." | 02:55 |
| BenC | is benh ever on linuxnet? | 03:14 |
| BenC | jbailey: as of right now, I only have two possible reasons for this crash...1) GCC-4 related, may need to try a gcc-3.4 compile | 03:16 |
| BenC | the crash is happening in either out_8() or in_8(), which are assembly | 03:16 |
| BenC | 2) it might be caused by the fact that breezy ppc64 was using discontiguous memory model and dapper is flatmem | 03:16 |
| BenC | I'm leaning toward the first | 03:17 |
| BenC | the code for CMOS_READ(), where it is crashing is the same in 2.6.12 and 2.6.15, so it's not a bug from that code directly | 03:18 |
| fabbione | BenC: yes he is, but not 24h | 03:20 |
| infinity | I'm scared to death of this switch to gcc-4.0 for the kernel, personally. | 03:21 |
| BenC | I had already heard that ppc64 may need gcc-3.4, so this wouldn't be a surprise | 03:23 |
| BenC | but everything else should be fine, and so far I haven't seen, nor heard of any problems from it | 03:23 |
| infinity | I have a lovely OOPS from fglrx, but my hardware has never liked fglrx, so I'm unwilling to commit to it being the driver, kernel, or compiler's fault until I get more bug reports from this upload. | 03:24 |
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| zul | heylo | 03:24 |
| BenC | looks like ppc and hppa may be the only ones left still using gcc-3.4 | 03:25 |
| infinity | Other than that, my kernel has been solid. (Well, buggy in neat ways, like my lack of CD drive, but nothing crashy) | 03:25 |
| BenC | hey zul | 03:25 |
| infinity | And yes, I still have no CD drive in -5.7... I need to corner you tomorrow and talk to you about it. | 03:25 |
| BenC | yeah, we need to pin that down | 03:25 |
| BenC | jbailey: will you be able to test another kernel in about 15 minutes or so? | 03:26 |
| jbailey | BenC: About 5m from now? | 03:37 |
| BenC | 5-10 | 03:37 |
| BenC | build is almost done | 03:37 |
| jbailey | Cool. | 03:37 |
| jbailey | No ccache? =) | 03:37 |
| BenC | compiler switch, so it wouldn't help anyway :) | 03:37 |
| jbailey | Ah, dropping back to 3.4? | 03:38 |
| BenC | yeah, about the only thing I can think of right now that might cause this | 03:38 |
| BenC | it's getting some sort of sigbus trap on a byte sized read/write from IO memory...it's very odd for it to do that | 03:39 |
| BenC | for all I know the trap is expected, and the trap to fix it up just isn't set :/ | 03:39 |
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| infinity | include/linux/highmem.h:12:25: error: asm/highmem.h: No such file or directory | 03:54 |
| infinity | (building LRM on powerpc) | 03:54 |
| BenC | ARCH=powerpc, not ARCH=ppc | 03:54 |
| BenC | make sure it's not something like that | 03:54 |
| BenC | plus, there's no such thing as highmem on ppc :) | 03:55 |
| infinity | Erm, but it used to be ARCH=ppc. | 03:55 |
| fabbione | "used" exactly | 03:55 |
| infinity | (Must have been, since I didn't touch anything ppc-specific) | 03:55 |
| jbailey | BenC: I thought there was. My ppc64 box only generally sees 4gb of the 6 in it, IIRC. | 03:56 |
| infinity | ifeq "$(DEB_HOST_ARCH)" "powerpc" | 03:56 |
| infinity | export karch=ppc | 03:56 |
| infinity | So, this needs to be "powerpc" now? | 03:56 |
| fabbione | yes | 03:56 |
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| jbailey | BenC: How's the build? | 03:57 |
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| BenC | jbailey: done | 03:57 |
| BenC | jbailey: same location, same file, just updated | 03:57 |
| jbailey | BenC: We're looking for both the fan fix and the rtc fix here? | 03:59 |
| BenC | I'm hoping atleast rtc, but the fan would be a nice bonus | 03:59 |
| BenC | jbailey: your 4-6gig mem problem is likely memory layout and not highmem related | 03:59 |
| jbailey | Paramtrage de linux-image-2.6.15-5-powerpc64-smp (2.6.15-5.7) ... | 03:59 |
| BenC | ppc32 has highmem.h, but ppc64 doesn't | 04:01 |
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| jbailey | Suspect fan issue is still there, will know in a couple of minutes. | 04:03 |
| jbailey | rtc issue is still there. | 04:03 |
| jbailey | [ 121.941299] BENC: Obtaining rtc_lock in rtc_proc_show | 04:03 |
| jbailey | [ 121.941305] BENC: at 1157 | 04:03 |
| jbailey | [ 121.941314] Oops: Machine check, sig: 7 [#1] | 04:03 |
| jbailey | [ 121.941915] SMP NR_CPUS=4 POWERMAC | 04:03 |
| BenC | damn, thanks for testing | 04:03 |
| BenC | cat /proc/version please | 04:04 |
| BenC | see if it shows the 3.4 compiler | 04:04 |
| jbailey | jbailey@starshine:~$ cat /proc/version | 04:04 |
| jbailey | Linux version 2.6.15-5-powerpc64-smp (root@davis) (gcc version 3.4.5 20051015 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-9)) #1 SMP Wed Nov 30 14:27:17 UTC 2005 | 04:04 |
| jbailey | I was just looking for that. Tried uname -a and dmesg first. =) | 04:04 |
| BenC | ok, and also, do a "free" for me | 04:04 |
| BenC | see if it shows your memory | 04:04 |
| jbailey | jbailey@starshine:~$ free | 04:04 |
| jbailey | total used free shared buffers cached | 04:04 |
| jbailey | Mem: 4008868 310692 3698176 0 9820 134340 | 04:04 |
| jbailey | -/+ buffers/cache: 166532 3842336 | 04:04 |
| jbailey | Swap: 19531232 0 19531232 | 04:04 |
| BenC | so you have 6gigs, huh? | 04:04 |
| jbailey | FWIW, the cat still results in a bus error. | 04:04 |
| jbailey | According to t-bone when I read him the serial number of the machine. | 04:05 |
| jbailey | I don't know Mac hardware enough to say for sure. | 04:05 |
| jbailey | Fan issue definetly not fixed. | 04:05 |
| jbailey | Although it occurs to me that it might be a side effect of the oops. | 04:05 |
| jbailey | I haven't tried *not* oops'ing the kernel to see if it happen.s | 04:05 |
| infinity | BenC : Feh, both variants used to have highmem.h, or lrm-2.6.12 wouldn't have built. (or something else is goofy)... So, WTF do I do now? :) | 04:05 |
| BenC | infinity: breezy kernel doesn't have asm-ppc64/highmem.h | 04:06 |
| jbailey | BenC: Lemme reboot and see if the fan issue is a side effect. | 04:06 |
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| BenC | ok | 04:06 |
| infinity | BenC : Actually, wait, this isn't in ppc64 anyway, this is in ppc.. | 04:06 |
| infinity | (And yes, I just switched to ARCH=powerpc, same problem) | 04:06 |
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| BenC | hmm | 04:06 |
| infinity | BenC : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-5-powerpc/include/linux/highmem.h tries to include asm/highmem.h | 04:08 |
| infinity | BenC : Clearly, something is in the wrong here. :) | 04:08 |
| BenC | infinity: you're correct, I need to fix that for -6.8 | 04:08 |
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| infinity | Feh. Alright, well LRM is stalled on that, then. As is linux-meta and udev and friends. Your turn to be the blocker. :) | 04:09 |
| infinity | ETA on -6.8? | 04:09 |
| infinity | BenC : And can you do a test build of LRM against -6.8's headers on PPC before you upload? | 04:09 |
| BenC | is lrm uploaded now? | 04:10 |
| infinity | Yup. | 04:10 |
| infinity | I uploaded it before testing on powerpc. Stupid me. | 04:10 |
| BenC | sweet, I'll have -6.8 out tonight then | 04:10 |
| infinity | So it's built on i386, amd64, and ia64. | 04:10 |
| BenC | I can get a rebuild for ppc | 04:10 |
| infinity | Oddly enough, so can I. | 04:10 |
| infinity | I happen to know the buildd guy personally. | 04:11 |
| BenC | well, we'll really need an ABI bump anyway | 04:11 |
| infinity | (But it'll need an ABI... yeah) | 04:11 |
| BenC | two words....smart and ass... :) | 04:11 |
| jbailey | BenC: Fan issue definetly not side effect. Going strong and no oops in dmesg. | 04:11 |
| jbailey | Need anything else from this kernel? | 04:11 |
| BenC | jbailey: nah, we're good, thanks | 04:11 |
| infinity | BenC : Define "tonight"... 6-8 hours? | 04:12 |
| BenC | closer to 8 | 04:12 |
| infinity | BenC : If so, I'll go to bed now, and re-do LRM in the morning. I kinda want to babysit it for paranoia's sake. | 04:12 |
| BenC | sure thing | 04:12 |
| infinity | So don't bother doing the ABI bump yourself this time. | 04:12 |
| infinity | Next time, it's all yours. :) | 04:12 |
| BenC | check topic in AM, and if you see -6.8 uploaded, kick lrm for me :) | 04:13 |
| infinity | It shall be done. | 04:13 |
| infinity | Thanks, dude. | 04:13 |
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| BenC | no problem | 04:30 |
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| CataEnry | bye all | 04:58 |
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| zul | doh...my cron script doesnt want to work..aiiee | 05:24 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Current softmac+bcm43xx should be able to scan | 05:42 |
| BenC | I have current softmac fairly recent bcm | 05:53 |
| BenC | mjg59: I pulled rtl8180 and rtl8187, since they are both unable to load (missing symbols) | 05:53 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ok | 05:54 |
| BenC | just did a compile out of CVS and it doesn't work | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | What are the missing symbols? | 05:54 |
| BenC | ieee80211_wx_read_name and some such | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | Oh, right | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | Fun | 05:54 |
| BenC | doesn't show up as a function in ieee80211 or ieee80211_softmac | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | How about in -netdev? | 05:54 |
| BenC | possible, but I haven't pulled a netdev | 05:54 |
| BenC | I'll ask jgarzik and davem and see if it's safe to pull from there | 05:55 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 05:56 |
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| jbailey | BenC: For ppc64, should I just continue to use 2.6.12, or are we hoping that -6.8 has more love for ppc64? | 06:53 |
| BenC | hold off till I can talk to benh about what might be the problem | 07:00 |
| BenC | I can easily "fix" the rtc issue by not compiling the module, but the fan issue is more of a problem | 07:01 |
| jbailey | Makes sense. thanks. | 07:05 |
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| mkrufky | hey guys, i know this is off topic, but it's an easy question -- | 07:21 |
| mkrufky | last year i had some ubuntu installation cd's sent to me, i think i had ordered them from a web site, i dont remember | 07:22 |
| mkrufky | anyhow, we're thinking of switching a whole bunch of boxes in the office here over to ubuntu | 07:22 |
| mkrufky | does anyone know where i can find that web site for the cd mailers? | 07:22 |
| mkrufky | not easily found on ubuntu.org | 07:22 |
| fabbione | shipit.ubuntu.com | 07:23 |
| mkrufky | awesome | 07:24 |
| mkrufky | thanks | 07:24 |
| fabbione | np | 07:24 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Is there a list of which 2.6.12 patches are included in our 2.6.15, and which have been dropped? | 08:37 |
| mjg59 | BenC: It looks like we're still missing the Toshiba acpi hotkeys patch | 08:37 |
| BenC | mjg59: the large acpi patch sets I didn't include, but I was pretty sure I got most of the smaller ones (especially machine specific ones) | 08:38 |
| mjg59 | I get errors on boot about an invalid option on the Toshiba hotkeys | 08:38 |
| BenC | I didn't add the old patch names to the git log, but I wish I had of | 08:39 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Looks like we haven't had anything applied to toshiba_acpi | 08:45 |
| BenC | ok, I'll find the patch from breezy and apply it | 08:45 |
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| mkrufky | i just noticed em8300 in the ubuntu kernel tree | 09:24 |
| mkrufky | is that fair game for us in v4l to play with? | 09:24 |
| mkrufky | i mean, it is GPL and everything? is there any reason it hasnt been included in vanilla kernel? | 09:24 |
| mjg59 | It's GPL, yeah | 09:25 |
| mjg59 | I've no idea why it's not upstream | 09:25 |
| mjg59 | Possibly the developers have just never pushed it | 09:25 |
| mkrufky | okay... i'll see what i can do | 09:25 |
| mkrufky | i see it has some brooktree encoders also in the same dir | 09:25 |
| mkrufky | hmm | 09:26 |
| mkrufky | is there a list anywhere of the drivers in the ubuntu tree that are NOT in the vanilla tree? | 09:26 |
| mkrufky | i saw a small list on kernelgitguide | 09:26 |
| mkrufky | but doesnt look to be complete | 09:26 |
| zul | mkrufky: pretty much things like ndiswrapper is not in the vanilla tree..previous versions have a list of external-drivers | 09:30 |
| mkrufky | okay, i'll have to take a closer look | 09:30 |
| mjg59 | mkrufky: Yeah, there's drivers for a couple of TV encoders in there | 09:30 |
| mkrufky | but something like em8300 ... would probably be nice for us to import | 09:31 |
| mkrufky | i see it also has bt865, em9010, adv717x | 09:31 |
| mkrufky | adv717x ... someone was asking for that the other day | 09:31 |
| mjg59 | http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Fbcollins%2Fubuntu-2.6.git&a=search&h=0235c9b32a0f66e94da2d6bd8edf7f55224ce1c2&s=external+driver should give you all of them | 09:32 |
| mkrufky | nic | 09:32 |
| mkrufky | nice | 09:32 |
| mjg59 | But the commit title doesn't always give the driver name | 09:32 |
| mkrufky | hmm i see | 09:32 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Is at76c50x still dropped? | 09:34 |
| BenC | if it isn't in there, it'e because it's broken | 09:35 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 09:35 |
| mkrufky | does anybody here know where you got em8300 from? | 09:37 |
| mkrufky | there is something in linuxtv cvs .... not sure if it's the same | 09:37 |
| mkrufky | oops, i found it in the commit msg | 09:38 |
| mkrufky | thanx | 09:38 |
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| mkrufky | ok, the em8300 driver in DVB cvs (not dvb-kernel) has also em8300 dvb driver, but it is completely different code | 10:06 |
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| mjg59 | Weird | 10:09 |
| mkrufky | ya... my interest has been sparked....... i ordered an em8300 card from ebay by accident last month.... so now i have a use for it | 10:13 |
| mkrufky | i bet the dvb driver does the same thing, but using a dvb interface instead of a v4l interface ..... | 10:14 |
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| zul | later | 10:40 |
| CataEnry | hi all | 10:40 |
| mkrufky | bye all | 12:01 |
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