[12:00] <a|so> hello i need some help with my ubuntu please
[12:00] <Nealz> cusco:  Or if it's frozen.
[12:00] <dbglt> hrmm
[12:00] <Nealz> cusco:  Like if you pour liquid nitrogen on it too much it will stop. I ruined my old computer like that.
[12:00] <towsheba> ell0 channel
[12:00] <dbglt> alright, another thing: I require the eciadsl driver to connect to the internet; does Ubuntu come with make/c/c++ dev tools installed by default?
[12:00] <Ofe> nickrud : umm, how do I open that thing? "package type not supported" or something like that. :\
[12:00] <tyler_> mwe, would it matter im on 64bit ubuntu?
[12:01] <Nealz> Seveas:  xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version it said.
[12:01] <nickrud> Ofe, I'm not sure what that question is about :)
[12:01] <cusco> Nealz: I did not such thing
[12:01] <mwe> tyler_: I don't know
[12:01] <dbglt> O
[12:01] <dbglt> I'd need to compile it from scratch
[12:01] <dbglt> I'd imagine
[12:01] <Ofe> nickrud : sorry, it was about apt-zip_0.13.2_all.deb. I don't know how to use it.
[12:01] <Nealz> cusco:  Well if it's too hot then. Don't worry about it. Mine changes daily.
[12:01] <nickrud> Ofe, sudo dpkg -i <file>
[12:02] <a|so> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:02] <cusco> Nealz: my have been like this for 3 days
[12:02] <dbglt> would it be safe to install the debian i386 deb, or better to build from source?
[12:02] <nickrud> dbglt, for c & make, apt-get install build-essential
[12:02] <Nealz> cusco:  Is it slowing your performance? Noticably? Or did you just barely see that?
[12:03] <dbglt> nickrud, not connected to the internet when under ubuntu - need to build/install eciadsl before I can connect
[12:03] <nickrud> lol
[12:03] <dbglt> nickrud, unless the install CD is a source for such
[12:03] <logical_mark> Hey can anyone help me out with why pure-ftpd is not working with pure-admin?
[12:03] <topyli> dbglt: just install the build-essential package, and get all your need to build stuff
[12:03] <dbglt> topyli, that comes on the install CD?
[12:03] <topyli> no :(
[12:03] <nickrud> dbglt, I think it is, give it a try :)
[12:03] <nickrud> no!??
[12:04] <dbglt> bit hard to apt-get packages when I can't get on the internet :|
[12:04] <tritium> It should be on the install cd
[12:04] <dbglt> ok
[12:04] <cusco> Nealz: it was slow 3 minutes ago while seeng some flash site
[12:04] <topyli> dbglt: actually i don't know. all i know it's not on the default installation
[12:04] <gfish> how do i burn dvd iso's
[12:04] <Firen> how i can install c compiler in ubuntu? i download one from gcc.gun.org and i can't compile it :/
[12:04] <dbglt> I assume if the CD is in the drive, it will be automatically recognized as a source? I'm unfamiliar with the deb package management system
[12:04] <HrdwrBoB> gfish: right click, write to disc
[12:05] <gfish> HrdwrBoB, its that easy
[12:05] <tyler_> mwe, well.. I was installing an extension on 1.07, then quit to run that command.  When I ran it, half way through, a window popped up and mentioned "checking for extension compatability" and then it ended like usual after loading... weird
[12:05] <dbglt> I'd just like to get up and running on the net, then I can learn as I go. But as it stands, I have to reboot if I would like to get on the internet
[12:05] <Nealz> cusco:  I don't know what to tell you then.
[12:05] <nickrud> dbglt, yes, it will.  take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list , that defines where you can get packages from
[12:05] <dbglt> which... is mildly annoying to say the least
[12:05] <Nealz> cusco:  Because it should change. Have you rebooted in the last 3 days?
[12:05] <dbglt> nickrud, thank you
[12:05] <cusco> Nealz: just now
[12:06] <Nealz> cusco:  I don't know, then.
[12:06] <cusco> :( ok
[12:06] <tyler_> mwe, I think im gonna give up for now.
[12:06] <logical_mark> Does anybody in here know why pure-admin would't be able to retrieve data from the pure-ftpd server?
[12:06] <Nealz> cusco:  Sorry. I came here for help myself. But for OpenGL
[12:06] <mwe> tyler_: yeah
[12:06] <Nealz> Okay, I tried installing the fglrx driver but it says it's already the newest version, what do I do?
[12:06] <mwe> tyler_: stick with 1.0.7 for now if it works
[12:06] <cusco> lol
[12:06] <cusco> what about your opengl?
[12:07] <Nealz> cusco:  The program freezes after a few seconds
[12:07] <cusco> what grafic card do you use? ati?
[12:07] <dbglt> ok, and what I asked again before: would it be safe to install a debian .deb on a ubuntu system? The file is at: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php?lang=en
[12:07] <Nealz> yeah
[12:07] <tyler_> mwe, yeah.
[12:07] <dbglt> or would I be better off building from source?
[12:07] <tyler_> mwe, thanks for your help though, i really appreciate it
[12:07] <amanda> hey guys
[12:07] <cusco> hold on
[12:07] <amanda> for some reason i cant install a pkg from synaptic
[12:07] <tyler_> Does anyone know if the 64bit version of Ubuntu is noticably faster or not?
[12:07] <logical_mark> dbglt: new to linux all togethor but it's my understanding that Ubuntu is a build of debian
[12:08] <amanda> this is what it tells me
[12:08] <amanda> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse:
[12:08] <amanda>  Depends: gstreamer0.8-wavpack but it is not going to be installed
[12:08] <amanda>  Depends: gstreamer0.8-dirac but it is not going to be installed
[12:08] <dbglt> aye, I'm not sure of the hierarchy and such are the same
[12:08] <logical_mark> dbglt: and I install .deb s all the time
[12:08] <dbglt> or if it would cause dependancy problems
[12:08] <Nealz> amanda:  Don't paste in here. There is a place for it.
[12:08] <amanda> where do i paste?
[12:08] <logical_mark> Ok so no one in here can help me with my FTP server woes?
[12:08] <dbglt> logical_mark, ok
[12:08] <nickrud> dbglt, the consensus is that it's not a good idea; some work, some don't. In general, binary compatibility between debian and ubuntu is not guaranteed.
[12:08] <Nealz> amanda:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and then copy and paste the link after you paste.
[12:08] <tyler_> mwe, im gonna reformat to 32bit version and see how it goes. ill be back in 30minutes.
[12:08] <dbglt> nickrud, understood.
[12:09] <dbglt> nickrud, if I have a .deb package - what is the syntax to install that?
[12:09] <mwe> tyler_: good luck
[12:09] <dbglt> apt-install ?
[12:09] <cusco> Nealz: I dunno I sory
[12:09] <nickrud> dbglt, sudo dpkg -i <deb package>
[12:09] <dbglt> oh
[12:09] <logical_mark> nickrud: in that case what is the format to look for when searching the net for programs to install that are not in SPM
[12:09] <cusco> lol
[12:09] <logical_mark> ?
[12:09] <Nealz> cusco:  you're fine
[12:09] <dbglt> alright, rebooting, I'll see how we go
[12:10] <dbglt> nickrud, logical_mark, topyli, anavim, tritium, thanks :)
[12:10] <nickrud> logical_mark, use ubuntu's repository; if you're feeling adventurous, add repositories that are specifically built for ubuntu. Personally, I stick with official stuff.
[12:10] <dbglt> back shortly, I hope
[12:10] <Nealz> How do I enable Direct Rendering?
[12:11] <trappist> Nealz: follow ubotu's instructions about ati
[12:11] <logical_mark> nickrud: sounds like a good plan. Thanks for the help. Hey are you familiar with pure-ftpd and pure-admin?
[12:11] <nickrud> logical_mark, no, never used them, sorry.
[12:11] <logical_mark> nickrud: thanks anyway - later
[12:12] <trappist> I do.  oh he's gone.
[12:12] <amanda> does anyone know how to mount a creative zen xtra mp3 player/
[12:12] <amanda> ?
[12:12] <bolrod> like you'd mount a normal usb drive??
[12:14] <infamus> i keep getting errors when i mark winetools for installation through SPM, any ideas on why this keep happening?
[12:14] <idiot> when I try to copy a file thats 4.4gb from a windows computer to this linux computer it fails because it exceeds the file limit.
[12:14] <amonkey> is there a good repo for bleeding edge packages of major apps (ie firefox)? or is there a better way to try 1.5?
[12:14] <tritium> infamus, SPM?
[12:14] <amanda> how come i cant install some of the media pkgs
[12:14] <amanda> ?
[12:14] <djm62> tritium: synaptic package manager!
[12:15] <infamus> tritium: Synaptic Package Manager
[12:15] <tritium> infamus, you added the winehq.com repo?
[12:15] <infamus> tritium, yeah
[12:15] <tritium> infamus, what exactly is happening?
[12:15] <u|qos> i want to disable some users on my machine only for ssh? it that possible?
[12:16] <arcanistherogue> in ubuntu, how do i change the login screen?>
[12:16] <arcanistherogue> breezy
[12:16] <amanda> im getting a error message when i try to update my repository list
[12:16] <amanda> saying a gzip error
[12:16] <trappist> u|qos: you can configure sshd to only allow certain users
[12:16] <anavim> idiot, that's not true, I have 10GB tarballs on my computer
[12:16] <oxez> u|qos: yes, checkout /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:16] <idiot> anavim - how did you mount your windows partition in linux
[12:16] <anavim> idiot, I don't
[12:16] <infamus> tritium: SPM keeps telling me it has unresolvable dependencies so it cant install
[12:17] <tritium> infamus, ah, okay.
[12:17] <topyli> infamus: find the "fix broken" entry in the menus
[12:17] <tritium> That very well may be the case, infamus.  winehq.com is not an official repo, and may occasionally have improper dependencies
[12:18] <u|qos> oxez, checked :) but found nothing very special
[12:18] <infamus> tritium: alright ill try
[12:18] <anavim> idiot, also, I think dd will copy parts of the file at a time and cat will put the pieces back together again
[12:18] <Rosen> Hi people ... I am very new to linux and just installed Ubuntu.. I must say it looks MUCH less complicated than any distro I've seen before... but I will probably be asking for some help during tonight anyways :)
[12:18] <Rosen>  /introduction done
[12:18] <oxez> u|qos: you can set up the 'AllowUser(s)' var like: AllowUser(s) oxez,uqos etc.. (not sure if AllowUser takes an s or not)
[12:19] <oxez> There must be a DisableUser
[12:19] <tritium> Rosen, glad you've joined us :)
[12:19] <djm62> how can I get my usb mp3 player to automount again? it worked in hoary, in breezy I can mount it manually, which isn't as good.  the error is something about UDI when I try from nautilus
[12:19] <Rosen> Thanks Tritium i'm sure I will enjoy this
[12:19] <oxez> u|qos: DenyUsers => http://www.delafond.org/traducmanfr/man/man5/sshd_config.5.html
[12:20] <oxez> there you go buddy :P
[12:20] <bluefox83> djm62, what kind of mp3 player is it? i been wanting to get one and didn't know if they worked in linux
[12:20] <musk> hoary seems so much more stable than breezy.
[12:20] <u|qos> oxez, Its AllowUsers ... found it in the manpage ... and then its all done? i am asking, because thats a very security related question
[12:20] <oxez> u|qos: DenyUsers exist
[12:20] <quacker> musk, you should try Debian then  --- lol
[12:20] <mwe> breezy is stable for me
[12:20] <djm62> bluefox83: I've never found one which /doesn't/ but ipods sometimes need special software, and others are mostly seen as usb-mass-storage
[12:20] <bluefox83> musk, breezy is probably the debian equivilent of unstable :p
[12:21] <oxez> u|qos: yea, after you save your file, restart your sshd server. And test it by yourself
[12:21] <Fujitsu> Hoary _was_ very stable, but I am yet to have issues with Breezy... Then again I have been using it for less than 24 hours.
[12:21] <nickrud> ouch, except that unstable isn't :)
[12:21] <bluefox83> djm62, do you need special software to use them?
[12:21] <musk> I have one that just records on a fat 16 USB drive.
[12:21] <ompaul> bluefox83, ehh wrong
[12:21] <musk> ;-)
[12:21] <agtnz> Whats a program to convert .ico to .png ?
[12:21] <Fujitsu> Sarge works fine for my server. Has never crashed once... Don't know about sid or etch though!
[12:21] <djm62> bluefox83: to use ipods, you need some special software.  apple ipods specifically.
[12:21] <bluefox83> nickrud, true, debian unstable isn't actually unstable, i know cus i'm using it :P
[12:21] <infamus> topyli: it didnt work, im still getting unresolvable dependency errors
[12:21] <u|qos> oxez, it ssh then save? i suppose to enable only root ...
[12:21] <djm62> bluefox83: the software is there, and works
[12:22] <nickrud> bluefox83, I didn't reinstall unstable for 3 years; ubuntu, well ....
[12:22] <ompaul> agtnz, tried gimp?
[12:22] <tritium> Rosen, I hope you will!
[12:22] <musk> I am a believer in Debian!!
[12:22] <oxez> u|qos: enable only root? and you call this security? :P
[12:22] <topyli> infamus: dunno then, maybe start purging recently added packages with apt, i don't know
[12:22] <k31th> ompaul: watsup
[12:22] <musk> I feel ubuntu is just a "tuned" version of debian
[12:22] <agtnz> ompaul: no, was thinking more a command line util - thanks i'll try gimp tho
[12:22] <mwe> is that a  relegion?
[12:22] <oxez> But, try this: DenyUsers * and then AllowUsers root
[12:22] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu is practically Debian... Debian for servers until Dapper is proven.
[12:22] <bluefox83> djib, i ment other types of mp3 players..i have no desire to buy a crapple product :p
[12:22] <ompaul> k31th, nothing
[12:22] <infamus> topyli: hhmmmmm....k i guess i can try that
[12:22] <bluefox83> ubuntu != Debian
[12:23] <djib> ah non, c'est pas pour moi ^^
[12:23] <k31th> ompaul: know that feeling
[12:23] <amanda> what does IGN mean when i do apt-get update?
[12:23] <oxez> djib: daccord :P
[12:23] <musk> brb personal hygiene tyme
[12:23] <AsiEsLaVida92> eww
[12:23] <AsiEsLaVida92> lol
[12:23] <u|qos> oxez, i have to work with root ... otherwise i have to enable 4 other user an switch between them
[12:23] <djib> grrrrrrr !!! :P
[12:23] <Ribs> Anyone got experience with wireless USB network adaptors?
[12:23] <topyli> amanda: ignored, i.e. apt doesn't need that info
[12:23] <amanda> ok
[12:23] <amanda> thnx
[12:23] <AsiEsLaVida92> i do
[12:23] <djm62> bluefox83: other mp3 players, treat as usb-mass-storage (a disk that can play the mp3s you put on it).  fine for me
[12:24] <InitMass> i wonder when a .deb package will be released of Firefox 1.5
[12:24] <bluefox83> djm62, what sort of drivers and such do you need for them?
[12:24] <amanda> tpyli: when i try to install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse it says it cant do it
[12:24] <Ofe> nickrud : okay, i got apt-zip installed. and I have no idea how to start it.
[12:24] <oxez> u|qos: if you do AllowUsers root, then only root will be allowed
[12:24] <oxez> u|qos: no need to DisableUsers, I made a mistake
[12:24] <djm62> bluefox83: included with the distro, should automatically work when you plug the player in
[12:24] <bluefox83> apt-zip? O.o
[12:24] <deus_> I just upgraded to breezy
[12:24] <deus_> but i have a problem with apt
[12:25] <nickrud> Ofe, you need to configure it, which, if remember correctly, was not simple. bluefox83 have you used it recently?
[12:25] <deus_> unmet dependencies on all the packages i try to download
[12:25] <amanda> me to
[12:25] <u|qos> oxez, read it myself ;) ... thx anyway, but how can i prevent using root ...
[12:25] <bluefox83> djm62, be aware, i am not using ubuntu, i'm using debian..but i think the 2.6 kernels should be able to detect it immediately and load the drivers itself..
[12:25] <oxez> u|qos: for what?
[12:25] <deus_> any reason for this to happen?
[12:25] <anavim> deus_, what are you trying to do?
[12:25] <Fujitsu> u|qos: sudo should do the trick.
[12:25] <oxez> ^
[12:25] <deus_> anavim: what do you mean
[12:25] <deus_> i cant download any packages
[12:25] <bluefox83> nickrud, used what? apt-zip? i've never even heard of it before!
[12:26] <Fujitsu> deus_: I never liked the upgrading process.
[12:26] <Ofe> nickrud : okay.. damn it. :\ gotta be an easy/understanable way to install totem-xine with no internet connection.
[12:26] <djm62> bluefox83: um, best to ask in #debian.  ubuntu is desktop focused, debian has every right not to implement that
[12:26] <tritium> bluefox83, apt-cache show apt-zip ;)
[12:26] <u|qos> oxez, but where is the differenz using root, or login via another user an then doing sudo su -?
[12:26] <nickrud> Ofe, I'm installing apt-zip as we speak, I'll see how much I remember
[12:26] <Dekkard> deus_:  do you have any repositories enabled
[12:26] <djm62> bluefox83: although the raw drivers (the kernel module) will be there for sure
[12:27] <Rosen> here we go ... after about 56 lookups on google to make sure what the stuff actually was, Automatix is now installing :O
[12:27] <anavim> !tell deus_ about repositories
[12:27] <oxez> u|qos: If I were you, I'd block that SSH user from doing 'sudo', and make him use 'su' instead
[12:27] <deus_> Dekkard: all of them and some extra
[12:27] <oxez> u|qos: so the guy needs 2 passwords to gain root access
[12:27] <bluefox83> djm62, thanks, i might ask for a creative ogg player for xmas then ^_^
[12:27] <cafuego> deus_: Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[12:27] <Dekkard> and synaptic prompts fo password?
[12:28] <Fujitsu> Mmm... Ogg...
[12:28] <cafuego> oxez: Why not make said user not have root access, if it's a security problem?
[12:28] <djm62> bluefox83: they have ogg players?
[12:28] <u|qos> oxez, the pw from the user & the root pw, okay. but where is the diffrence between su and sudo?
[12:28] <Dekkard> from what ive seen ..i river supports ogg
[12:28] <bluefox83> djm62, yep!
[12:28] <oxez> u|qos: sudo does not require knowing the root password
[12:28] <cafuego> u|qos: Just use sudo; you can restrict WHICH commnds the user can run as root in sudo.
[12:28] <amanda> can some one help me?
[12:29] <deus_> cafuego: unmet dependebcies on everything
[12:29] <NoobieDoobieDo> How can I show what version of Ubuntu I'm running ? Uname -a doesn't do it.
[12:29] <Nealz> Okay I tried that fglrx thing
[12:29] <Nealz> but it keeps failint
[12:29] <Nealz> failing
[12:29] <u|qos> oxez, sure it does ...
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Probably, amanda. What is wrong?
[12:29] <Dekkard> personally... my ipod nano.. kicks it.. way better than my mpio
[12:29] <amanda> fujitsu http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:29] <cafuego> deus_: Check that you've got a correct /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <Nealz> says libvarconf-1.0c2 is going to overwrite something and stops.
[12:29] <oxez> u|qos: ?
[12:29] <amanda> i get that error when i update my repos
[12:29] <pramz> NoobieDoobieDo, lowercase : uname -a
[12:29] <trappist> Nealz: when you do what
[12:29] <pramz> NoobieDoobieDo, thats kernel version
[12:29] <djm62> amanda: is your disk full?
[12:29] <amanda> no
[12:29] <oxez> u|qos: I'm logged in as my user, I do sudo rm -rf /, it asks me for MY password, not root's
[12:29] <amanda> dont think so
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Are you sure?
[12:29] <NoobieDoobieDo> pramz, I'm looking for the Ubuntu version.
[12:30] <amanda> looking now
[12:30] <u|qos> oxez, if i login to my machine via ssh and then trying "sudo nano <something>" i have to enter the pw once ...
[12:30] <amanda> i have 11 GB free
[12:30] <deus_> cafuego: the source list worked perfectly before, after i addedd the breezy tag and updated , not so
[12:30] <djm62> :) not full then
[12:30] <Nealz> trappist I went and did the Ctrl + Alt + F1 thing and it fails when I apt-get install --reinstall blah blah
[12:30] <amanda> yup
[12:30] <cafuego> u|qos: That's a matter of configuring sudo.
[12:30] <bluefox83> wow, amazon has a bangin price for the creative zen ogg player, with 20gb of space ^_^
[12:30] <amanda> so what else can i be
[12:30] <amanda> ?
[12:30] <u|qos> oxez, not the roots pw? where is the sense of that?
[12:31] <Fujitsu> How many times have you tried, amanda?
[12:31] <Ofe> nickrud : do I just have to dl all the packages this http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/totem-xine says totem-xine depends on?
[12:31] <amanda> like 50
[12:31] <trappist> Nealz: the blah blah part is what I was looking for
[12:31] <oxez> u|qos: ? You knew that the root password is different that your user password, right?
[12:31] <cafuego> u|qos: it can be set to prompt for a password each time, and/or  display a message to be careful.
[12:31] <annex> bluefox83: how much?
[12:31] <nickrud> Ofe, yes, and maybe some that those packages depend on :)
[12:31] <Nealz> trappist:  linux-restricted-modules
[12:31] <Fujitsu> The file is obviously somehow being corrupted...
[12:31] <amanda> how can i fix it?
[12:31] <Ofe> nickrud : oh. and then figure out where they belong in that breezy-computer?
[12:32] <amanda> it is on 2 repos
[12:32] <yatesy> its not each time, it gives you access for 5 minutes by default
[12:32] <Fujitsu> You could try a different mirror.
[12:32] <djm62> amanda: can you do apt-get update?
[12:32] <nickrud> Ofe, if you can figure out what .debs to get, they'll know where they go when installed.
[12:32] <Fujitsu> djm62: That is the issue, I believe
[12:32] <amanda> yes but i still get a error
[12:32] <u|qos> oxez, my main users pw and the root pw is the same, :) stupid thing... was default on ubuntu. but why can sudo run processes with root rights when i only entered the pw of an unprivilidged user?
[12:32] <Fujitsu> Try a different mirror, I guess.
[12:33] <djm62> is the us archive prone to problems?
[12:33] <yatesy> u|qos: because thats the whole point.....
[12:33] <Fujitsu> I don't know.
[12:33] <Fujitsu> But it may be that the connection from amanda to there is not good.
[12:33] <ompaul> u|qos, that is how sudo works
[12:33] <oxez> u|qos: that's how ubuntu is configured by default
[12:33] <amanda> true
[12:33] <dbglt> beautiful, I'm up and running :)
[12:33] <dbglt> now...
[12:33] <dbglt> just gotta fix everything heh
[12:33] <dbglt> at least the net is going
[12:34] <nickrud> Ofe, try sudo apt-zip-list --skip-mount --medium=$HOME --packages=totem-xine . That will create a script in your home directory, along with an options file. Take those to the internet connected machine, and run the fetch-script.
[12:34] <merc> uh, i went to dist-upgrade after chaning my sources etc..and now its saying its having a problem processing kdenetworkconf package :( anyone heard of something similar or know what's going on?
[12:34] <Rosen> dbglt I'm at the same stage as you :) ... are you experienced with this ?
[12:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> How can I upgrade Ubuntu to BreezyBadger ?
[12:34] <u|qos> oxez, so ... now im stucked. i create an extra user for login via ssh, allowing only him. whats the next step?
[12:35] <dbglt> Rosen: not with Ubuntu, but I've had my fair share of linux installs: doesn't seem to be anything too out of the ordinary
[12:35] <oxez> u|qos: you want to configure sudoers
[12:35] <Fujitsu> NoobieDoobieDo: From HoaryHedgehog?
[12:35] <ordinary> whats that?
[12:35] <n0dl> is there a way to check what kind of video card i have?
[12:35] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fujitsu, Yes
[12:35] <merc> n0dl: lspci shows pci devices..(do it as root)
[12:35] <djm62> NoobieDoobieDo: can you edit a text file?
[12:35] <oxez> u|qos: sudo visudo , there is probably some documentation available on http://help.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <amanda> so how can i see what i need?
[12:35] <amanda> or how can i fix the prob?
[12:35] <NoobieDoobieDo> djm62, yes
[12:35] <Rosen> dbglt : allright, you know about Automatix ? ... I myself is a complete newbie with this but found it to be very helpfull ... I think
[12:36] <amanda> are there erros when u update?
[12:36] <Fujitsu> amanda: If you go into synaptic...
[12:36] <Rosen> dbglt : I'm in the process of installing it now
[12:36] <dbglt> Rosen: I've not heard of it. What does it do?
[12:36] <amanda> k
[12:36] <Ofe> nickrud : it says that package totem-xine has no installable something. not sure if I translated it correctly.
[12:36] <Rosen> dbglt hang on I'll find a link for you
[12:36] <dbglt> Rosen: thanks :)
[12:36] <u|qos> oxez, i will take a look ... thx to you all!
[12:36] <djm62> NoobieDoobieDo: for the most part, change all references to hoary to breezy in the file /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update&&aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:36] <oxez> u|qos: np, if there is something just drop a message in here :P
[12:37] <Nealz> dbglt:  Do an 'apt-get install build-essential' and 'apt-get update' but put sudo in front of them
[12:37] <Fujitsu> And then properties or something, will get you into the 'Sources list'
[12:37] <Rosen> dbglt, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[12:37] <n0dl> thx
[12:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> djm62, Thanks.
[12:37] <Fujitsu> I don't have the window right in front of me...
[12:37] <amanda> is there a way to make ubuntu not look to the sync clock
[12:37] <cafuego> n0dl: 'lspci | grep VGA'
[12:37] <nickrud> Ofe ;) you are screwed by not having universe packages in your apt database, which you need internet access to fill. That's another issue,
[12:37] <cafuego> n0dl: Root is not required.
[12:37] <djm62> NoobieDoobieDo: 3 steps, and then you have to wait for stuff to download and install
[12:38] <nickrud> Ofe, sorry, I never considered that point.
[12:38] <bluefox83> sorry...for those of you who wanted to know about the amazon.com deal for the zen player it's $189.00
[12:38] <Fujitsu> amanda: System->Administration->Services. In there there is an option for the clock, I bleieve.
[12:38] <Drakeson> is there a way to use gstreamer in command line to play a single file?
[12:38] <logical_mark> Hey how do I change the name of a mounted volume?
[12:38] <Fujitsu> NoobieDoobieDo: Emphasis on the wait. I suggest getting a few dozen cups of coffee...
[12:39] <Ofe> nickrud : well, thanks for trying to help anyway. I suppose I just have to find a way to get internet connection to that machine. I'm giving up for a while, gotta sleep a few hours before going to work.
[12:39] <logical_mark> I have to hard drives mounted, /dev/hda1 and /dev/sda1 and I want to change the name the are mounted on. Which right now they are both mounted as X GB Disk...
[12:39] <djm62> NoobieDoobieDo: it isn't what you'd call an anxious wait
[12:39] <Rosen> my next project will be to get the XP partition on this computer removed :> Any advice on how to make Ubuntu 'take it over' ?
[12:39] <angryfix> how can you launch a program from the terminal, but not have it bound to that terminal (so you can continue executing commands). For example, Eclipse and Xchat remain bound to the terminal if launched from it.
[12:39] <nickrud> Ofe, luck. linux just is not an unconnected os.
[12:39] <merc> uh, i went to dist-upgrade after chaning my sources etc..and now its saying its having a problem processing kdenetworkconf package :( anyone heard of something similar or know what's going on?
[12:39] <swb> angryfix, xchat &
[12:39] <logical_mark> Rosen:qtParted is a good partition manager
[12:40] <djm62> Rosen: go carefully, make sure you can do everything you need/want to do under ubuntu first.
[12:40] <swb> or run it and press ctrl -z and then type bg
[12:40] <swb> then type fg to bring it back
[12:40] <angryfix> oh ok.
[12:40] <anavim> Fujitsu, lots of coffee always makes me severely impatient  ;)
[12:40] <Rosen> logical_mark, allright thanks I'll look into that
[12:40] <Drakeson> is there a way to use gstreamer in command line to play a single file?
[12:40] <Ofe> I suppose this is the depency hell ppl talk about. if I can't get internet connection to work I'll install windows 95 to that computer. :P
[12:41] <Vann> i installed 5.10 Breezy Badger Install CD, but when it booted and started the load up sequence it says it can't find /dev/hde3 which is the partition its installed on.  Any ideas?
[12:41] <deus_> There is little wrong with the source file that i can see
[12:41] <deus_> also...startx disapeared
[12:41] <cyphase> does anyone know why i might not be able to log into Gnome?
[12:41] <Rosen> djm62, I got Skype, msn, irc and firefox up and running so I think I'm all covered .... I think :P
[12:41] <amanda> fujitsu" im looking if my other system can see those repos
[12:41] <logical_mark> Can anyone help me re-label mounted drives?
[12:41] <Trashcan> anyone have GAIM get stuck at 'Receiving Authorization' from aim?
[12:41] <anavim> Ofe, it's not dependency hell, it's a package conflict.  you can't have mplayer and xine installed at the same time
[12:41] <cyphase> i can get into fluxbox..
[12:41] <amanda> fujitsu" if it can what can i do to see them on this machine?
[12:42] <djm62> Rosen: Gladys, and your mitts ;)
[12:42] <cyphase> and IceWM (where i am now)
[12:42] <cyphase> and failsafe terminal
[12:42] <cyphase> but not gnome
[12:42] <Ofe> anavim : oh, so it's mplayer? I don't think I ever installed that. unless it comes with breezy.
[12:42] <Vann> i installed 5.10 Breezy Badger Install CD, but when it booted and started the load up sequence it says it can't find /dev/hde3 which is the partition its installed on.  Any ideas?
[12:42] <cyphase> any ideas?
[12:42] <anavim> Ofe, oh, different problem then  :(
[12:42] <Rosen> djm62, hehe .. now I just need to make Gunz work in Wine ... first I have to see what Wine is of course :P ... Oh the joys of being a newbie
[12:43] <djm62> Rosen: take it easy...soon it will be an extension of your mind ;)
[12:43] <cafuego> wine is ambrosia
[12:43] <Trashcan> wine tastes like rubbing alcohol
[12:43] <cafuego> I suggest a sparkling shiraz on a hot day like today
[12:43] <amanda> lol
[12:44] <cafuego> Trashcan: You're not entitled to an opinion on wine with a nick like that ;-)
[12:44] <Rosen> djm62, oh I gave up on my mind long ago
[12:44] <NanoBCN28> hi guys. I'm experiencing problems writing dvd images
[12:44] <NanoBCN28> neither cdrecord nor growisofs work
[12:44] <NanoBCN28> any idea why?
[12:44] <Vann> i installed 5.10 Breezy Badger Install CD, but when it booted and started the load up sequence it says it can't find /dev/hde3 which is the partition its installed on.  Any ideas?
[12:44] <GMachine_24> ok, I feel like a dork for asking but I cannot figure out how to partition and format a second hard drive. I have searched howtos and tried qtparted with no luck.
[12:45] <MickMcMack> fdisk it?
[12:45] <b_e_n_z> GMachine_24, fdisk /dev/hdb?
[12:45] <GMachine_24> ok, hang on
[12:45] <swb> GMachine_24, try cfdisk
[12:45] <swb> as root
[12:45] <swb> its easier than fdisk
[12:46] <Vann> i installed 5.10 Breezy Badger Install CD, but when it booted and started the load up sequence it says it can't find /dev/hde3 which is the partition its installed on.  Any ideas?
[12:46] <Nealz> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5523  the ><(((*> is my prompt. Why does it say that?
[12:47] <phrizer> Can i check email headers in evolution ?
[12:47] <snausages> is there a hotkey for switching workspaces?
[12:47] <cyphase> Does anyone know why I might not be able to log into Gnome?
[12:48] <anavim> snausages, in gnome?
[12:48] <djm62> phrizer: yes, I think it's in view
[12:48] <snausages> anavim: yes
[12:48] <cyphase> I can get into Fluxbox..
[12:48] <swb> cyphase, wrong password?
[12:48] <nickrud> phrizer, there're options under view
[12:48] <swb> I see
[12:48] <cyphase> and IceWM (where i am now)
[12:48] <swb> cyphase, whats the error?
[12:48] <cyphase> but not Gnome
[12:48] <cyphase> no error
[12:48] <swb> what happens when you try and log in
[12:48] <cyphase> it freezes on the brown background
[12:48] <amanda> hey
[12:48] <swb> hrrm
[12:48] <cyphase> it looks like it's about to log in
[12:48] <swb> have you got spare harddisk space
[12:48] <cyphase> but then, it doesn't do anyting
[12:48] <phrizer> yeah found them
[12:48] <phrizer> thanks
[12:48] <cyphase> yes
[12:48] <cyphase> about 9GB
[12:48] <Vann> i installed 5.10 Breezy Badger Install CD, but when it booted and started the load up sequence it says it can't find /dev/hde3 which is the partition its installed on.  Any ideas on how to get it to find the partition?
[12:48] <swb> on all partitions?
[12:48] <swb> do df -h
[12:48] <cyphase> swb, no, on my home
[12:48] <cyphase> my root has about 70
[12:49] <GMachine_24> fdisk /dev/hdb yields The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 39813.
[12:49] <GMachine_24>  and then a bunch of stuff followed by command (m for help):
[12:49] <swb> I see
[12:49] <swb> checked dmesg?
[12:49] <nickrud> Vann, can your bios see hde as a bootable disk?
[12:49] <amanda> on my other system i only had 37 repos and on this system i have 48 and 2 wont load. but on the other system i can load all my media  pkgs but not on this system
[12:49] <logical_mark> I need help with two drive that were mounted by a script I found, but I want to name them differently
[12:49] <amanda> any help
[12:49] <cyphase> swb, for what?
[12:49] <swb> anything unusual
[12:49] <swb> regarding gnome
[12:49] <swb> or errors
[12:49] <cyphase> i don't see anything
[12:49] <Vann> nick: its the only hard drive.. and i've been booting windows off it for a while so i assume so
[12:49] <swb> I dunno then sorry
[12:50] <djm62> weird
[12:50] <Nealz> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5523  the ><(((*> is my prompt. Why does it say that?
[12:50] <snausages> anavim: any idea?
[12:50] <nickrud> Vann, do you know if it's plugged into ide0 or ide1, as slave or master?
[12:51] <SighKick> Greetings Earthlings :) First time on Xchat/linux chat...
[12:51] <Vann> nickrud: nope ... how can i check?
[12:51] <Artemis3> ah, alieeen
[12:51] <anavim> snausages, no, I don't use gnome, I use fluxbox
[12:52] <snausages> anavim: ok, thanks
[12:52] <swb> SighKick, welcome to irc
[12:52] <logical_mark> Hey can anyone explain to me, a newcomer to linux, what the deal is with me getting different "terminals" for lack of a better word when I press ctrl+alt+F1... F2... F3 etc. ?
[12:53] <anavim> snausages, http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/KeyboardShortcuts
[12:53] <swb> logical_mark, are they not there?
[12:53] <Nealz> logical_mark:  It's liek the workstations..and you can stop gnome display manager when you're in them.
[12:53] <swb> I'm sure mine were there by default...
[12:53] <gfish> how do i open .rar files
[12:53] <snausages> anavim: yeah, i just found that
[12:53] <SighKick> Thanks swb: not new to IRC (been an Undernet user since 1996)  ... just sussing out this Ubuntu
[12:53] <snausages> anavim: thanks! :)
[12:53] <swb> aha
[12:53] <cafuego> logical_mark: Linux is a multi-user system. By default, F1 through F6 are places to login :-)
[12:53] <Vann> nickrud: IDE1
[12:53] <u|qos> oxez, i read a while about sudo ... there was coming the question: makes the use of sudo sense? only seems to be a potential security risk ...
[12:53] <logical_mark> Nealz, oh ok thats cool. Can I start gnome in two at once?
[12:53] <oxez> u|qos: that's what I think too
[12:54] <cafuego> u|qos: No, sudo is not a porential security risk.
[12:54] <slashx1896> Heyyy
[12:54] <Vann> nickrud: the end of the strip, not sure if that's slave or master though:/
[12:54] <gfish> how do i open .rars
[12:54] <Nealz> logical_mark:  What's the point of that?
[12:54] <drolyk> Hi All! Does anybody here use apt-proxy ? I`ve got a problem with it :)
[12:54] <cafuego> u|qos: No more so that writing the root password on a post-it note anyway ;-)
[12:54] <anavim> u|qos, it's minor, but security is all about minor improvements - they really count
[12:54] <djm62> u|qos: it checks that you are who you are, and saves you from knowing a password
[12:54] <slashx1896> im using 'burn:///' to burn my cds,  and none of the cds played on my cd player..
[12:54] <anavim> u|qos, the majority of security patches are very minor holes as well
[12:55] <cafuego> u|qos: Specifically, with sudo you can define LIMITED root access to a SUBSET of commands. Far safer.
[12:55] <tyler_165> Hello.  I just installed Ubuntu.  Following that I went and downloaded FF1.5.  I unpackaged in /opt/.  Now what?
[12:55] <Vann> nickrud, you there?
[12:55] <djm62> slashx1896: you're burning data CDs, when you should be burning audio CDs.  try gnomebaker
[12:55] <logical_mark> Nealz: To be honest the it is so I can login on root so that I can be the owner of files in a nice GUI. LIke I said I am new to linux so I don't know how to modify files in the terminal and I dont know how to use the terminal su / sudo to give file permisions to my account.
[12:55] <SighKick> Question: which is the best CD / MP3 ripper and why is adding lame codec so 'unfriendly?  any takers?
[12:55] <ompaul> u|qos, if it was as risky as you suggest it would be removed
[12:55] <swb> tyler_165, check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:55] <u|qos> i am reading what u all are writing, but for some reason i dont understand anything ;)
[12:56] <Nealz> logical_mark:  I enabled root. I always use root despite the people who say it's wrong.
[12:56] <n0dl> whats the command to enable nvidia drivers?
[12:56] <ompaul> u|qos, did you know it was invented around 1981
[12:56] <swb> for a list of commonly asked and done things
[12:56] <nickrud> Vann, yes
[12:56] <u|qos> ompaul, no i didnt
[12:56] <swb> Nealz, you WILL break your system eventually
[12:56] <cafuego> u|qos: sudo allows you to give a user root access for a *single* command only
[12:56] <djm62> Nealz: clarify that...you /enable/ root.  you don't use it as a normal account
[12:56] <deus_> It wont even uinstall
[12:56] <tyler_165> swb, k, hehe.
[12:56] <Vann> nickrud: its IDE1 and at the end of the strip, dunno whether thats master or slave though :/
[12:56] <Nealz> swb: and if I do I'll use my backup
[12:56] <Fujitsu> SighKick: LAME is lame. MP3 is bad and propriatery...
[12:56] <deus_> this isnt about the source
[12:56] <Nealz> djm62:  I use it as a normal account
[12:56] <djm62> Nealz: otherwise it would set a bad example
[12:56] <gfish> how do i extract rars
[12:56] <slashx1896> djm62: where can i get it? or is it already on synaptic?
[12:56] <Nealz> djm62:  It's not a good thing I know
[12:56] <logical_mark> Nealz: I enabled root as well :-). But still until I sink my feet into linux more I would prefer not risking the start of hard to break habits. Thanks for the all the info though!
[12:56] <cafuego> gfish: with unrar-nonfree
[12:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !audigy
[12:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[12:57] <swb> I'ld rather not undergo the hassle
[12:57] <u|qos> cafuego, hey... but it askes for the users pw ... not for the admins pw ... where is the security?
[12:57] <ompaul> u|qos, actually I am wrong 1980 but whatever :-)  have a look here http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/history.html
[12:57] <djm62> slashx1896: might even be on your system already... definitely in synaptic
[12:57] <slashx1896> kk
[12:57] <swb> Fujitsu, oggs rule
[12:57] <gfish> cafuego, will i need to sudo-apt get unrar-nonfree
[12:57] <nickrud> Vann, the drive itself will have jumpers, you can look there
[12:57] <Fujitsu> Yes. Ogg forever as I said earlier.
[12:57] <SighKick> Fujitsu:  ok, flames aside... I wish to remain with the mp3 format...that being the case, which is the most efficient ripper?
[12:57] <logical_mark> Does anyone know of a cool looking RSS Reader that can sit on the desktop....?
[12:58] <cafuego> gfish: yes
[12:58] <slashx1896> yup
[12:58] <slashx1896> found it
[12:58] <djm62> nickrud: do you not think there is something unusual in hd*e*3 ?
[12:58] <swb> anyone tried to use projectm for winamp milkdrop visualisations on xmms or amarok
[12:58] <cafuego> swb: oggs aren't supported by most popular media players (hardware)
[12:58] <ompaul> cafuego, u know how it is with "I know this is not a benchmark" for glxgears?" well maybe it should be "I will use sudo and not ask about root for a month" before ubuntu installs :-)
[12:58] <Vann> nickrud, what do you mean by "jumpers" i see the IDE strip and power coming off the hd
[12:58] <nickrud> djm62, yes, probably. That's why I'm looking at hardware
[12:58] <cafuego> ompaul: ;-)
[12:58] <deborah_> I just loaded my neices laptop with ubuntu 5.10 .. tired of cleaning up her windows viruses, spyware, etc.. now i'm thinking.. to not shock her by completely taking windows away, maybe I will reinstall Win2000 so she can dual boot.. question is do I have to FIRST install Windoze or can I do it AFTER a ubuntu install?
[12:59] <swb> cafuego, yeah its unfortunate
[12:59] <swb> there are some though
[12:59] <cafuego> ompaul: OMG! I NEVER USED IT! IT MUST BE A SECURITY HOLE!!!
[12:59] <nelsmar> i cant seem to get distcc to work, anyone had any luck? this is what im getting for output when i type make -j1(just to control) CC=distcc http://pastebin.com/442953
[12:59] <ompaul> cafuego, YOU MUST BE RIGHT!
[12:59] <Darknight77> hello
[12:59] <cafuego> swb: i have this neet plug on my car stereo that allows it to control my iPod via the car....
[12:59] <SighKick> hi there Darknight77
[12:59] <DShepherd> deborah_: install windoze first, its easier that way
[12:59] <swb> haha thats cool
[12:59] <DESiBELi> hey im trying to compile something but cc1obj is missing.. what is that? gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1obj'
[12:59] <Darknight77> On which channel I could ask about wacom volito2 and ubuntu?
[12:59] <nelsmar> cafuego i need one of those 0.o frikkin box for it is 100$ for my alpine deck
[12:59] <swb> I want something liek that but wireless
[12:59] <ompaul> !lart cafuego
[12:59] <ompaul> !lart ompaul
[01:00] <swb> and for all gadgets
[01:00] <swb> also some gadgets
[01:00] <swb> and a car
[01:00] <cafuego> swb: I think the problem with ogg is that is was simply too late, mp3 was by far the most popular and easy to use format, de facto standard.
[01:00] <swb> cafuego, yeah
[01:00] <n0dl> what do i need to run the command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[01:00] <n0dl> can someone help me?
[01:00] <djm62> too late in integer form :(
[01:00] <cafuego> and with no way of converting from one to other without having crappy quality, it's just not worth the bother.
[01:00] <nelsmar> anyone know whats up with distcc? givving me that error about -Wno(something)
[01:00] <SighKick> cafuego: my point... thanks for that..
[01:00] <Vann> nickrud, what do you mean by "jumpers"?  All i see are the IDE Strip and power cables
[01:00] <swb> cafuego, its possible
[01:00] <deborah_> thanks DSheph.. that's what I hear.. just wondering if i could do it without starting over (like i have anything better to do..)
[01:01] <swb> alltho I've never ttried
[01:01] <Darknight77> On which channel I could ask about wacom volito2 and ubuntu?
[01:01] <nelsmar> i figured it was compiler flags.... but i dont see a compiler config anwhere(like make.conf in gentoo)
[01:01] <swb> but surely it must be
[01:01] <cafuego> swb: You lose quality, though
[01:01] <swb> yeah
[01:01] <swb> I suppose
[01:01] <swb> even if you sampled at exactly the same rate and frequency
[01:01] <cafuego> swb: if the mp3 is 320Kbit it might be OK, but most of mine are 192.
[01:01] <u|qos> cafuego, ompaul ... you both totally stucked me ... :)
[01:01] <cafuego> swb: Well, theyre both lossy and both discare different parts of the signal...
[01:01] <nickrud> Vann, plastic thingies on copper posts, and there's probably a diagram on a sticker on the drive.
[01:02] <SighKick> /me Anyone try Automatix yet?
[01:02] <ompaul> Vann, along the end you will see a group of 6/8/10 pins one of these has a little jumper on it it can be detached by pulling with fingernails :)
[01:02] <Hobbsee> !automatix
[01:02] <swb> cafuego, yup
[01:02] <nelsmar> ive used automatrix
[01:02] <cafuego> swb: So one on top of the other loses twice the data.
[01:02] <Hobbsee> !tell SighKick about automatix
[01:02] <swb> aye
[01:02] <nelsmar> i still dont have a java plugin on firefox : P i dont even get a you dont have a plguins creen..... i just see normal html it ignores java tags and all that
[01:02] <cafuego> Doing that to my mp3s would elave me with AM radio quality music ;-)
[01:02] <swb> no probs if you use flac tho
[01:02] <Vann> ompaul, i see the thingy i can pull off
[01:02] <cafuego> which kinda defeats the whole purpose.
[01:02] <swb> shame its enormous
[01:02] <ompaul> u|qos, now you know it works use it :-)
[01:02] <deborah_> automatix is a great time saver
[01:03] <cafuego> swb: I don't have enough amchines to hold the disks I'd need to use flac for everything.
[01:03] <nelsmar> it was nice for mp3 / divx
[01:03] <ompaul> Vann, that is the jumper that nickrud was talking about
[01:03] <swb> I did a module on multimedia compression techniques, it was very interesting
[01:03] <nelsmar> other than that i was having issues, it tried to isntall a newer firefox plugin and broke it... browser would just freeze after words
[01:03] <SighKick> LOL... Eat my children... one way to get rid of them...where do I sign up?
[01:03] <sexualpotatoes> why is my CPU at a constant 100% if i have no more programs open than i do in windows for about 1%-3%?
[01:03] <ompaul> Vann, on the top of the disk does it have SCM or some lettering there?
[01:03] <cafuego> !cthulhu
[01:03] <ubotu> cafuego: Are you on ritalin?
[01:03] <u|qos> ompaul, i didnt understand why i have to disable it
[01:03] <cafuego> ubotu: yes
[01:03] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, cafuego?
[01:03] <Vann> nickrud, uhh i found a diagram, its kind of inconclusive though..
[01:03] <cafuego> !undelete cthulhu
[01:03] <gfish> cafuego, how long should it take to extract
[01:03] <ubotu> cafuego: that factoid was not backedup :/
[01:03] <ompaul> u|qos, disable what?
[01:04] <nickrud> Vann, yeah, that's believable :)
[01:04] <u|qos> ompaul, sudo
[01:04] <ompaul> u|qos, you dont have to
[01:04] <ompaul> u|qos, in fact you should not
[01:04] <cafuego> !cthulhu
[01:04] <ubotu> Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn
[01:04] <cafuego> better
[01:04] <Vann> says No jumper = DS (Slave)
[01:04] <u|qos> ompaul, you guys mentioned that is a potential risk when using ssh
[01:05] <nickrud> Vann, so, the boot partition has to be on hdc or hdd, are you sure it said hde?
[01:05] <ompaul> u|qos, me, myself and I disagree with you there
[01:05] <Vann> nickrud, yes it said hde
[01:05] <Vann> nickrud, it was hde when i tried installing gentoo too.. :/
[01:05] <SighKick> !eat my children?
[01:05] <ubotu> SighKick: Are you smoking crack?
[01:05] <nelsmar> i cant find anything on forms about distcc anyone used it?
[01:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ok ubuntu kicks more ass than a mexican donkey farmer
[01:05] <nelsmar> im having nothing but problems with buntu
[01:05] <nelsmar> ; /
[01:05] <Arv3n> Hello.
[01:05] <neil> any one there
[01:06] <cafuego> nelsmar: yeah, I found it was easier to just buy an amd64 ;-)
[01:06] <nelsmar> everytie i compile a kernel something goes wrong
[01:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nelsmar ever use linux before?
[01:06] <swb> nelsmar, use a packaged kernel
[01:06] <SighKick> *smiles* having found the bot to play with.....
[01:06] <u|qos> ompaul, so i create a new dummy user only for ssh, only allowing him to login... and thats save?
[01:06] <swb> omg
[01:06] <Arv3n> After upgrading Ubuntu to Breezy Badger via Synaptic, does anyone know how to make the terminal showup in the menu?
[01:06] <nelsmar> the_isle_of_mark on and off for 5 years
[01:06] <Vann> nickrud, wouldnt i have to remove the power cable to see if it was slave or master?
[01:06] <ompaul> u|qos, allowing them to log in from where?
[01:06] <n0dl> how would i uninstall the old version of firefox so that i can still keep my bookmarks and stuff?
[01:06] <nelsmar> well i wanted to add support for M processor instead of just general i386 and then clean it up no point in having hotplug pci....
[01:06] <Vann> nickrud, hmm nm
[01:06] <nickrud> Vann, copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin.ubuntu.nl, if you can
[01:06] <nelsmar> cafuego what does amd64 have to do with anything? 0.o confudled lol
[01:06] <u|qos> ompaul, anywhere/internet
[01:07] <swb> nelsmar, are you sure ubuntu ios the right distro for you?
[01:07] <nickrud> Vann, sorry I'm taking so long, I'm kinda multasking at the moment
[01:07] <swb> its pretty packaged cnetrix
[01:07] <swb> centric
[01:07] <Vann> nickrud, np, any help is good at this point
[01:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> what kind of trouble compiling a kernel? nowadays you really dont need to... (caveat instered here)
[01:07] <Vann> nickrud, i can go check, but i don't think there was a /boot
[01:07] <nelsmar> swb, last i used was gentoo but im using it for my primary os on a laptop and i figured a package based would be nice (such as debian) and i was impressed when i first installed it until i started tweaking things
[01:07] <a|so> hello people.. i need some help
[01:07] <Vann> nickrud, i'm on windows now
[01:07] <nickrud> Vann, then, you have serious problems :)
[01:07] <swb> I used to use debian
[01:07] <n0dl> does anyone know how to install the newest version of fire fox?
[01:08] <nelsmar> swb, i just dont have the processor power to run gentoo on here. and im lacking internet connection 0.o tryng to rush and get it finished before i get home(visting parents for weekend and leaching banwidth)
[01:08] <a|so> anyone here who can help me out..please
[01:08] <swb> ubuntu has better release priorities tho
[01:08] <swb> nelsmar, I see
[01:08] <nelsmar> ubuntu is fab, wow but... just DONT try to customize it
[01:08] <ompaul> u|qos, I see no issue with that
[01:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nelsmar, I have tweaked my laptop completely with ubuntu, now it is on my main...I also converted from gentoo
[01:08] <nickrud> Vann, you can use explore2fs to pull the file out of ubuntu. And, mention the partition you find it on.
[01:08] <nelsmar> gentoo too much work for this poor laptop lol
[01:08] <ompaul> nelsmar, define customize
[01:08] <u|qos> okay, i will give it a try :)
[01:08] <swb> I think buntu-base provides a kernel
[01:08] <Vann> nickrud, will i have explore2fs in the basic shell?
[01:08] <panosso> is there anybody here who can help me undestand a problem with my ppp conection !?
[01:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nelsmar, yeah mine is decent at 2.4 ghz p4 M
[01:08] <swb> which means to remove it would probably make a mess
[01:08] <Arv3n> Does anyone know why the terminal disappeared in the menu when I upgraded to Breezy Badger by Synaptic?
[01:08] <nelsmar> ompaul well first of all working with the kernel
[01:09] <a|so> hello.. i need help with installing ubuntu
[01:09] <Arv3n> a|so, whats your problem?
[01:09] <ompaul> nelsmar, define customize the kernel please
[01:09] <NoobieDoobieDo> a|so, What kind of help ?
[01:09] <nickrud> Vann, it's a windows program, just get lucky goes straight there
[01:09] <nelsmar> i remember first kernel i made on ubntu... it said could not mount root to load kernel image...... second time this time with initrd, .... could not load video ggrrr then network i never touched anything! i used make oldconfig
[01:09] <Arv3n> Does anyone know why the terminal disappeared in the menu when I upgraded to Breezy Badger by Synaptic?
[01:09] <nickrud> Vann, I mean, google
[01:09] <Vann> nickrud, heh, bit confused there for a second
[01:10] <nickrud> brb
[01:10] <ompaul> cafuego, is there a factiod for generating ssh keys so you don't have to ssh -C login you can do it without passwords?
[01:10] <nelsmar> ompaul ? lean it out remove thigns such as pci hotplug, switch to pentium m instead of i386 remove support for scsi raid etc for features i do not have, and will nto have because i am using a laptop
[01:10] <n0dl> does anyone know how i can check if my input method is scim-1.0.2?
[01:10] <nelsmar> also leaning out the startup scrips to a lil more bare on the functional side, again i dont need raid... im on a laptop : ) no 2 hd slots
[01:10] <Arv3n> Does anyone know why the terminal disappeared in the menu when I upgraded to Breezy Badger by Synaptic?
[01:10] <ptlo> Arv3n: that's a change in gnome style
[01:10] <Arv3n> ptlo, how do I fix it? xD
[01:10] <a|so> Arv3n, okay i downloaded.. ubuntu as my friends said that its more stable.. as my windows xp os is pretty much unstable.. and i got a cd iso image from ubuntu.org .. and i downloaded both the live image and the instalation file.. and then i burnt each one.. into a separate cd.. and then i changed the bios to boot the cd.. but it goes to a black screen with a blinking - .. and it stays that way.. and after a long while.. windows starts.. am using compaq l
[01:11] <ptlo> they just felt the previous way was wrong
[01:11] <Arv3n> no clue. xD
[01:11] <ptlo> Arv3n: use the menu for launching terminal :) (or put the launcher on the panel, i did that :)
[01:11] <Arv3n> ive installed ubuntu many times and never have had that problem. o_O
[01:11] <nelsmar> i decided to install distcc while i did kernel since i was having so much problems, to speed it up , two hours has pased nad i cant get distcc to compile a single thing. odd?
[01:11] <nelsmar> i searched forums for hours on most of this stuff not to much help :(
[01:11] <Arv3n> ptlo, what? O_O
[01:11] <Vann> nickrud, i found it
[01:11] <djm62> a|so: is your CD burned correctly?
[01:11] <Arv3n> ptlo, thats what I was talknig about, its NOT ON the menu. O_O
[01:11] <ompaul> nelsmar, and you did install build-essential?
[01:12] <swb> nelsmar, not sure I can help you
[01:12] <nelsmar> ompaul yup sure did
[01:12] <Arv3n> djm62, cant you check if its right or not with md5sum?
[01:12] <a|so> i think so.. i used rexo.. buring software and its a cd image on the cd..
[01:12] <djm62> Arv3n: I suspect it's deliberate
[01:12] <nelsmar> swb, its alright : ) thanks for listenin at least :D
[01:12] <a|so> roxy*
[01:12] <nelsmar> love ubuntu, just not when you get into console work, but i dont plan on console work on this puter
[01:12] <Arv3n> djm62, no clue what that means. XD
[01:12] <ompaul> nelsmar, so it works with the default kernel - what version ?
[01:12] <ptlo> Arv3n: from the Applications->System Tools menu
[01:12] <xxtreme> anyone know how the command to check config.log, im trying to install qingy and its a disaster so far
[01:12] <ptlo> it disappeared from right-click menu
[01:13] <djm62> Arv3n: the lack of Terminal in the background context menu
[01:13] <nelsmar> ompaul 2.6.9....? ide have to check and the 2.6.12.10?
[01:13] <thinkley> does anyone know if its possible to use the debian repositries to get packages for breezy badger?
[01:13] <pbransford> a|so, sounds like your computer has issues booting from cd sometimes
[01:13] <Arv3n> ptlo, yep, its not there.
[01:13] <pbransford> my laptop does it
[01:13] <Hobbsee> thinkley: what package do you want?
[01:13] <nelsmar> ide have to check my /boot for versions, when i started aking a 2.6.14.3 it went ot hell, so i backed down to a 2.6.12.10 no such luck
[01:13] <Vann> nickrud, uh... explore2fs calls its hda3...
[01:13] <pbransford> i press escape for the boot menu and wait untill my CD drive stops blinking and realizes a disk is loaded, then continue
[01:13] <n0dl> has anyone switched to the new firefox version?
[01:13] <cafuego> thinkley: No. You _will_ break your system.
[01:13] <thinkley> ardour-gtk
[01:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thinkley yes it is, I have heard of problems, but I have not had any running debs
[01:13] <a|so> pbransford whenever i put my windows xp cd..it boots just fine.
[01:13] <ptlo> Arv3n: what about Apps->Accessories ?
[01:13] <cafuego> !info ardour-gtk
[01:13] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: (digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9beta29-5ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2113 kB, Installed size: 6308 kB
[01:13] <Hobbsee> n0dl: 1.5?  yeah
[01:13] <Arv3n> o.o
[01:14] <cafuego> thinkley: Enable the 'universe' repository.
[01:14] <pbransford> a|so, i assume your windows disk is a mastered disk, not a burned disk
[01:14] <Arv3n> ptlo, how'd you know?
[01:14] <builder> is there anything for Ubuntu that lets me buy music from iTunes?
[01:14] <n0dl> Hobbsee: can you help me out with installing the new version?
[01:14] <thinkley> thanks
[01:14] <ompaul> nelsmar, so you are using hoary?
[01:14] <nelsmar> once i fix distcc im going to mess with ubuntu sources again from scratch..... i dunno just having a hard time with the kernel and not loading hd. right now the kernel i just made says /dev/sda7 doesnt exists(sata drive, my root)
[01:14] <Arv3n> ptlo, i've looked in that menu many times, now it just appeared! O_O
[01:14] <ptlo> Arv3n: i looked :)
[01:14] <cafuego> builder: iTunes runs under crossover office.
[01:14] <Arv3n> ptlo, well thanks. xD
[01:14] <ptlo> hahah :)))
[01:14] <a|so> yeah its the disk i got when i bought it.
[01:14] <nelsmar> 5.10... which was that again? i have a hard time remembering stuff dyslexia :(
[01:14] <ptlo> np
[01:14] <pbransford> a|so, you could try burning them with a lower speed (something like 4x-8x) to make them easier to read
[01:14] <nelsmar> i can check if you want
[01:14] <n0dl> Hobbsee: Could I just completely uninstall the current firefox and install the newone?
[01:14] <pbransford> that may help
[01:14] <a|so> okay i have around 4 partitions on the comp.. do you think instead of the cd.. i should do something to the partition
[01:14] <cafuego> n0dl: breezy, the current stable.
[01:14] <a|so> and boot the partition ?
[01:14] <cafuego> grrrr
[01:14] <Hobbsee> n0dl:  you can just install the new one over the top of the old one, and change the symlink
[01:14] <pbransford> i know my drive sometimes doesn't load the disk in time for the bios to probe for boot code
[01:14] <ompaul> nelsmar, please do because the info you have given kinda conflicts uname -a please
[01:15] <a|so> i tried to do something like that yesterday and in the end.. i just had to re-install windows said something about mixing my system partition
[01:15] <Vann> nickrud, yell when you get back
[01:15] <Hobbsee> n0dl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:15] <nelsmar> errr thats for kernel not ubuntu version :P
[01:15] <mpmc> I need help setting up wireless on Ubuntu
[01:15] <builder> cafuego, how does crossover office compare to vmware?
[01:15] <nelsmar> im booted under a 2.6.14.3 kernel i built that took about 6 hours of messing and fidling with
[01:15] <builder> cafuego, does it use a lot of resources?
[01:15] <ompaul> builder, bricks and wood
[01:16] <u|qos> ompaul, can ssh make a chroot i his home dir for an user after login?
[01:16] <ompaul> nelsmar, where did you get that?
[01:16] <nelsmar> but so far the one ubuntu shipps worked the best.... all i did was remove what was it 0.o i think pci hotswap ... and something else and now the FN keys on laptop dont work.... strange?
[01:16] <nelsmar> ompaul kernel.org
[01:16] <Slaj_R> Question:  Sometimes my external HD doesn't appear on the desktop.  If i switch it on and off, it usually corrects itself.  Right now, it shows in nautilus but not on the desktop.  Is there a fix?
[01:16] <a|so> should i delete my windows.. and then try putting the unbuntu cd ?
[01:16] <nelsmar> vanilla
[01:16] <mpmc> Setting up wireless
[01:16] <mpmc> I've installed the ndiswrapper etc etc, installed the driver, added the info, tried to load up good and nothing :(
[01:16] <pbransford> mpmc
[01:16] <pbransford> does iwconfig
[01:16] <nelsmar> the 2.6.12.10 i have that i was messing with earlier is from apt-get
[01:16] <pbransford> list wlan0?
[01:17] <mpmc> yes
[01:17] <pbransford> iwconfig essid NETWORKNAME
[01:17] <mpmc> its enabled etc..
[01:17] <nickrud> Vann, hda3, huh. Vann, can you paste that grub.lst?
[01:17] <pbransford> and then "dhclient3 wlan0"
[01:17] <pbransford> see if that helps
[01:17] <a|so> my live cd appears correctly on windows
[01:17] <mpmc> tried everything
[01:17] <pbransford> odd. im using ndiswrapper myself
[01:17] <Vann> nickrud, aww you came back, i was about to try something i have no clue about :)  sec and ill paste
[01:17] <pbransford> what card you have?
[01:17] <ompaul> nelsmar, may I suggest you go back to the original kernel and then work on one part at a time
[01:17] <mpmc> pbransford: DWL-510
[01:17] <nelsmar> ive just always leaned out my kernels after a day of using included... but ive never had this much problem, i know im a bit rusty last time i played with linux was when i built my router.... 12 months ago, havnt had a crash since lol
[01:18] <Vann> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[01:18] <Vann> root		(hd0,2)
[01:18] <Vann> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hde3 ro quiet splash
[01:18] <Vann> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[01:18] <Vann> savedefault
[01:18] <Vann> boot
[01:18] <pbransford> mpmc, bcmwl5 here
[01:18] <nelsmar> ompaul well i downloaded a kernel cauase ubuntu doesnt come with sources 0.o
[01:18] <a|so> is there anyway i could install ubuntu ?
[01:18] <nickrud> Vann, stop
[01:18] <anavim> nelsmar, yes it does
[01:18] <ompaul> Vann, DO NOT PASTE IN HERE
[01:18] <Vann> ah..
[01:18] <pbransford> mpmc, are you using any security? mines unprotected and it works fine
[01:18] <nelsmar> anavim where???
[01:18] <pbransford> vann, paste in www.pastebin.com
[01:18] <nickrud> what saved us :)
[01:18] <ompaul> nelsmar, ohhh good *************************8
[01:18] <mpmc> yes, I am
[01:18] <ompaul> nelsmar, it does
[01:18] <nelsmar> there is nothign in /usr/src
[01:19] <ompaul> nelsmar, using synaptic? or apt-get?
[01:19] <nelsmar> where are they located? maybe i just miss looked
[01:19] <deus_> The problem is that i have obsolete packages
[01:19] <nelsmar> depends on day lol
[01:19] <pbransford> mpmc, i havent played with it but thats probably the issue
[01:19] <mpmc> pbransford: I'm using the right key etc etc, as it works on windows :(
[01:19] <deus_> but i cant remove them
[01:19] <anavim> nelsmar, apt-cache install linux-source-2.6.12
[01:19] <deus_> because everytime i try to run apt they complain about those packages
[01:19] <nelsmar> well synaptic/apt i can download sources... which is wher ei got 2.6.12
[01:19] <pbransford> mpmc, iwconfig probably is reading your ascii key as hex, or vise versa
[01:19] <Vann> http://pastebin.com/442979
[01:19] <ompaul> nelsmar, well today we look though the command line
[01:19] <anavim> nelsmar, oops, apt-get install
[01:19] <nelsmar> the 2.6.14 is from kernel.org
[01:19] <sadikxxx> hello, i just installed xfonts-artwiz via apt-get but the damn fonts dont appear on the Select font window. can someone help me?
[01:19] <Vann> that alright?
[01:19] <nelsmar> i already have 2.6.12
[01:19] <ericmoritz> how long before firefox 1.5 is in the repos
[01:20] <nelsmar> from apt-get
[01:20] <ompaul> nelsmar, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the sources lines there
[01:20] <anavim> nelsmar, on dapper a higher version is available
[01:20] <mpmc> pbransford: I've set it as a hex and put the hex in and tried plain text too :(
[01:20] <nelsmar> anavim what?
[01:20] <Vann> nickrud, oh right, i changed hde3 to hda3 and was going to try it
[01:20] <nelsmar> ompaul beleive i already did that
[01:20] <ubuntu> hmm ok I could use some help here :) ... I downloaded ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso  wich was 2,8Gb and burned it then ran it ... updated it a little and then I crashed ... when it booted up all I saw was the XP loading screen and my diskspace was the same as before I started this whole project.. so apparently it made a live install right ?
[01:20] <nelsmar> ompaul let me double check(sorry for the spam)
[01:20] <sadikxxx> hello, i just installed xfonts-artwiz via apt-get but the damn fonts dont appear on the Select font window. can someone help me?
[01:20] <pbransford> ericmoritz, it isn't actually "released" yet. give it a day or so and some more for the package maintainer to remove his thumb from the anus
[01:20] <ompaul> anavim, nelsmar is having issues about with a kernel where the hotplug is #ed out
[01:21] <ompaul> anavim, and looking for sources :-)
[01:21] <pbransford> mpmc, have you tried staticly setting your IP?
[01:21] <Vann> nickrud, except i just noticed you cant modify the file with explore2fs.. :(
[01:21] <ericmoritz> pbransford: it has been released http://www.mozilla.com
[01:21] <pbransford> and seeing if you can ping the router?
[01:21] <mpmc> pbransford: yes
[01:21] <anavim> nelsmar, 2.6.15 is available on dapper
[01:21] <nelsmar> ompaul im just having problems compiling a kernel period lol
[01:21] <nelsmar> what is damper
[01:21] <pbransford> ericmoritz, ok, but the maintainer has to package it and get it into the repos, which then have to propigate the mirrors
[01:21] <pbransford> mpmc, did it let you ping it?
[01:21] <sadikxxx> little help
[01:21] <ericmoritz> ah
[01:21] <anavim> !dapper
[01:21] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[01:22] <mpmc> pbransford: nope
[01:22] <ompaul> anavim, and without asking is it production or devel you suggest dapper, what happens when it blows up and kills all sorts of stuff?
[01:22] <pbransford> hrm
[01:22] <nelsmar> 2.6.14.10 is latest stable, ide rather stay under that version
[01:22] <anavim> ompaul, he's already blowing up lots of stuff  :P
[01:22] <pbransford> mpmc, you got me stumped.
[01:22] <Slaj_R> Question...  Sometimes my external HD doesn't appear on the desktop.  If i switch it on and off, it usually corrects itself.  Right now, it shows in nautilus but not on the desktop.  How do I fix?
[01:22] <Rosen> ok long story short ... Why does my dvd version install a live-ubuntu instead of a real install .. I'm not interrested in just trying it out untill my next reboot >.<
[01:22] <pbransford> does it show in ifconfig at all?
[01:22] <nelsmar> i dont wanna wait for a complete kernel compile lmao....
[01:22] <mpmc> pbransford: I set it up etc, etc, I think it has something to do with the secirty..
[01:22] <nelsmar> is htere a way to make a config off the current kernel loaded in ram?
[01:22] <anavim> ompaul, he's compiling vanilla kernels which is much worse, imho
[01:22] <mpmc> pbransford: it does yes
[01:23] <nelsmar> i prefer removing than starting fresh
[01:23] <pbransford> mpmc, if you can afford to... try disabling the security and see if you can do it then
[01:23] <sadikxxx> hello, i just installed xfonts-artwiz via apt-get but the damn fonts dont appear on the Select font window. can someone help me?
[01:23] <pbransford> mpmc, !!! ubuntu is using an older ndiswrapper version
[01:23] <nelsmar> im having a hard time.... i had to upgrade my network drivers... now when i compile a kernel i get errors because of ieee80112(which i had to upgrade as well)
[01:23] <pbransford> security has (or is being) fixed in the latest version
[01:23] <mpmc> pbransford: then any one can access the network :(
[01:23] <tyler> How does the Synaptic Package Manager work exactly?  Does it detect new packages that you may install?
[01:23] <pbransford> try ndiswrapper.sf.net
[01:23] <sadikxxx> hello, i just installed xfonts-artwiz via apt-get but the damn fonts dont appear on the Select font window. can someone help me?
[01:23] <sadikxxx> hello, i just installed xfonts-artwiz via apt-get but the damn fonts dont appear on the Select font window. can someone help me?
[01:23] <donza> does the firefox 1.5 rc3 update checker work for anyone?
[01:23] <Vann> nickrud, any idea?
[01:23] <nickrud> Vann, yes on the modifying
[01:24] <donza> for me it says no updates
[01:24] <Vann> nickrud, you can modify it through explore2fs?
[01:24] <ompaul> anavim, tell u what u take over - what I was trying to do was get him back to his old and give him kernel sources - I don't know what is in /etc/apt/sources.list so you might request that gets put in a pastebin and move forward from there
[01:24] <pbransford> tyler, its just an interface for the apt and dpgk suites
[01:24] <cafuego> sadikxxx: 'xset fp reshash'
[01:24] <tyler> pbransford, ok, thanks.
[01:24] <cafuego> sadikxxx: You may need to restart any apps you want to use the fonts with.
[01:24] <pbransford> mpmc, you can try mac filtering... make it a LITTLE bit harder for them to get in
[01:24] <nelsmar> wish this laptop had a quicker processor so building a kernel wasnt such a big deal
[01:24] <pbransford> try a new version of ndiswrapper first.
[01:24] <tyler> Can anyone advise a free / good looking word processor to download?
[01:25] <sadikxxx> xset:  bad font path element (#64), possible causes are:
[01:25] <sadikxxx>     Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions
[01:25] <sadikxxx>     Directory missing fonts.dir
[01:25] <sadikxxx>     Incorrect font server address or syntax
[01:25] <anavim> ompaul, I was just making a suggestion that he use the ubuntu customized kernel, not vanilla kernels.. to what level he gets stuck from there is something I won't be able to handle
[01:25] <nickrud> Vann, another person who had similar problems (no livecd) thought it would be faster to reinstall, but do a manual grub configuration.
[01:25] <nelsmar> tyler , oo.org
[01:25] <pbransford> tyler, openoffice
[01:25] <nelsmar> open office .org
[01:25] <pbransford> it SHOULD be in synaptic
[01:25] <nickrud> Vann, or do you have a live linux cd?
[01:25] <pbransford> theres also abiword
[01:25] <Vann> nickrud, i have a live gentoo cd
[01:25] <pbransford> havent tried it but it looks nice
[01:25] <mpmc> pbransford: I'll try again tomorrow, I'll use mac filtering.. etc.. etc, I just wanna get anyway from windows!
[01:25] <nickrud> Vann, you can boot that and edit the ubuntu grub
[01:25] <pbransford> mpmc, dont worry, youll get there eventually :) try updating ndiswrapper before farking with your AP
[01:25] <majyk> when I add the breezy backports URL to my /etc/apt/sources.list I get an error that synaptic can stat some files. Is the backports archive down?
[01:25] <nelsmar> my windows finaly frustrated me enough to linux... and now linux is falling apart :(
[01:26] <mpmc> which O'm on now..
[01:26] <nelsmar> im tempted to format the drive and start fresh
[01:26] <Vann> nickrud, just to change it to hda3 right?
[01:26] <ompaul> anavim, that is exactly as much info as I have, I have not had a chance to do anything as your second guessing whats next - your heading in the same direction so go for it - its all yours
[01:26] <mpmc> pbransford: I'm a bit new to linux, what is AP?
[01:26] <nickrud> Vann, that would be my first fix, yes
[01:26] <pbransford> mpmc, not a linux term :) access point
[01:26] <mpmc> oooo
[01:26] <abdul> does anyone know of a FTP programe for ubuntu?
[01:26] <pbransford> mpmc, im a newb as well, but more of an advanced newb
[01:26] <Vann> nickrud, alright, how do i get to it though?
[01:26] <pbransford> i got gentoo purring :P
[01:26] <anavim> nelsmar, oh, and for the record, you're going to have many more problems if you use 2.6.15, so I recommend 2.6.12...
[01:27] <mpmc> pbransford: It's late..
[01:27] <nelsmar> can someone help me with java via firefox, it just WILL not work no automation i need to know manual... i coppied libs from /lib/j2e to ~/.firefox/plugins ~/.mozilla/plugins and /lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[01:27] <majyk> is there a backports channel?
[01:27] <nelsmar> anavim thats wy i want to stay under 0.0.14
[01:27] <ericmoritz> abdul: gftp
[01:27] <pbransford> mpmc, understandable. i spent many late nights getting things running the way i want
[01:27] <nickrud> Vann, after you're in gentoo, check for a directory /mnt
[01:27] <tyler> I downloaded my nVidia chipset drivers.  NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run, how would I install them? Sorry for retarded question.
[01:27] <abdul> eric how do i get it ?
[01:27] <abdul> im a newb
[01:27] <pbransford> tyler, run this as root:
[01:27] <nelsmar> my firefox is showing nothing..... it shows blank html page doenst even regiser a plugin required
[01:27] <pbransford> chmod +x NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run
[01:27] <Vann> nickrud, i've been in there :)
[01:27] <mpmc> pbransford: I'll try again tomorrow, Hold on a minute, I had it set to WEP 64bit on the router, could that be the problem?
[01:27] <jefferyb> I was wondering if anyone can help... I need to run a script everytime a user logs in onto the desktop, and I was wodering where to put the script so it could run when ever someone logs in...
[01:28] <tyler> pbransford, do i need to log in as root? or can i sudo?
[01:28] <pbransford> and then do this: "./NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run"
[01:28] <pbransford> tyler, sudo -s
[01:28] <pbransford> to switch to a root shell
[01:28] <pbransford> but be careful
[01:28] <tyler> pbransford, so sudo -s before that command, or individually
[01:28] <tyler> pbransford, k gotcha
[01:28] <detour> hello all... just installed the lastest kernel and it broke my 3d acceleration (ATI Radeon 9800, working fine before). Anyway to roll back to previous kernel?
[01:28] <nickrud> Vann, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt    ; /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst is what you are looking for
[01:28] <pbransford> mpmc, could be, you might have to tell iwconfig what type of security it is...
[01:29] <anavim> nelsmar, did you install the ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel sources?
[01:29] <mpmc> pbransford: how lol.
[01:29] <nelsmar> hold up telephone
[01:29] <Vann> nickrud, sounds good, will go try it, thanks for the help
[01:29] <pbransford> tyler, by default downloads dont have the executable permission set. Virus & user idiocy prevention
[01:29] <pbransford> mpmc, hold on, i gota check the man
[01:29] <mpmc> pbransford: I'm really used to windows, Do yo u know any tut online???
[01:29] <nickrud> Vann, it was roundabout :)
[01:29] <tyler> pbransford, oh okay, that explains a lot.
[01:29] <pbransford> mpmc, well, www.tldp.org has some nice docs
[01:29] <anavim> nelsmar, once you do that, it's pretty straightforward... I also recommend using "checkinstall" to install the kernel in case you need to uninstall
[01:29] <tyler> pbransford, could i just right click and alter permissions through GUI as well in the future?
[01:30] <pbransford> mpmc, when i started i started with DOS all the way up to WinXP
[01:30] <pbransford> mpmc, so i know what your dealing with
[01:30] <pbransford> tyler, yea... forgot about that
[01:30] <johnaaron> how do i install the synaptic package manager?
[01:30] <pbransford> hehe
[01:30] <tyler> pbransford, np, learning is good.
[01:30] <pbransford> started linux with stuff like gentoo
[01:30] <Hobbsee> johnaaron: should already be installed and on your menu
[01:30] <mpmc> pbransford: I've only used 3.1->xp, but I'm only 18, so :P
[01:30] <foxgamer> Hi all. Can anyone tell me what I need to download from the repositories to get the 'export' command? TIA
[01:30] <pbransford> i use cli and gui equally :)
[01:30] <nelsmar> avanim sorry about that, im back
[01:30] <pbransford> mpmc, 19l
[01:31] <pbransford> l->.
[01:31] <tyler> pbransford, when i attempt to run it, after altering the permissions, i get: "Unable to find the system utility 'ld'; make sure you have installed the package 'binutils'..."
[01:31] <nelsmar> what is checkinstall? i was just buildign packages so i could manage them easily
[01:31] <johnaaron> hobbsee don't see it
[01:31] <nelsmar> wish i coudl find a way o change the version number for the package number away form 10.00 though
[01:31] <cafuego> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:31] <pbransford> tyler, you'll need kernel headers installed as well
[01:31] <Lardarse> does anyone know how to make curl not choke on a non-english letter?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> !tell nelsmar abotu checkinstall
[01:31] <pbransford> did you go thourgh the readme on nvidias download page?
[01:31] <mpmc> pbransford: I'll try again tomorrow and remove windows again <_<
[01:31] <tyler> pbransford, what would that be? Sorry.
[01:31] <mpmc> thanks
[01:31] <mpmc> Bye
[01:31] <abdul> I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO GET GFTP FOR HORARY 5.0.4
[01:31] <pbransford> mpmc, dont kill windows, run it side by side :D
[01:32] <pbransford> install windows first, use 1/2 your drive
[01:32] <nelsmar> !tell nelsmar about checkinstall
[01:32] <pbransford> then install ubuntu on the other half, and set the ubuntu side as bootable.
[01:32] <anavim> nelsmar, it's a tool which handles package dependencies so you can more safely uninstall packages you don't like
[01:32] <pbransford> the rest is gravy
[01:32] <nelsmar> im not seing ubuntu sources on synaptic.....
[01:32] <NoobieDoobieDo> After I do an "ap-get dist-upgrade" do I need to reboot ?
[01:32] <anavim> !tell nelsmar about repositories
[01:32] <a|so> do you think the problem is that.. i burnt it to a re-writable ? does that make any difference ?
[01:32] <detour> @abdul: have you tried this? sudo apt-get install gftp
[01:33] <mpmc> pbransford: Its a second PC, (Celeron, 2.4ghz) which is oddly slower than the pc downstairs whicg is a P4 2.4ghz.. :s
[01:33] <abdul> yeh, detour i have
[01:33] <pbransford> bah i had a 900mhz to play on
[01:33] <tyler> pbransford, I looked and didn't really see a good readme.  If i find it would it explain the kernel headers/binutils problem? Haha
[01:33] <anavim> nelsmar, the package is called linux-source-2.6.12
[01:33] <pbransford> Celeron has less cache than the P4
[01:33] <pbransford> thats where the slow comes from
[01:33] <a|so> is there a way to install ubuntu without a cd or a lan.. by using a partition ?
[01:33] <detour> @abdul, perhaps you have to enable the universe repos?
[01:33] <pbransford> i have a celeron 2.8ghz but its only got half the normal cache. runs like crap sometimes
[01:33] <mpmc> pbransford: It was an xmas prezzie so me and my bro don't fight over the PC but windows is just euh...
[01:34] <pbransford> mpmc, sick of it?
[01:34] <Honk_am_Werk> nabend
[01:34] <Rosen> guys I really need some help here.. I cannot for the life of me comprehend why my Ubuntu dvd installs a live version instead of a permanent one :O
[01:34] <nelsmar> oh okay i have that downloaded ; / is htere a way to build a config off currently loaded kernel?
[01:34] <mpmc> pbransford: I get bored, nothing to do but browse..
[01:34] <nelsmar> cause ide like to load the ubuntu 2.6.10 and copy the config off of that
[01:34] <mpmc> pbransford: plus, I'm a big music/video junkie :P
[01:34] <pbransford> i was a gamer. but when i moved my desktop went to family, and laptop was all i had. no reason to keep windows anymroe
[01:34] <anavim> nelsmar, are you on breezy?
[01:35] <pbransford> mpmc, make sure you check the wiki for "Restricted Formats"
[01:35] <Rosen> noone can help out ? : /
[01:35] <pbransford> mpmc, so long as you want any support for non-free codecs (most of the world's music/video)
[01:35] <mpmc> pbransford: I know how to sort that :P had ubuntu before but on on wireless :P
[01:35] <johnaaron> is there any reason why Synaptic would not be installed by default?
[01:35] <pbransford> mpmc, :)
[01:35] <mpmc> pbransford: not* on
[01:35] <nelsmar> anavim, yes
[01:36] <pbransford> mpmc, my first linux experience also included getting masquerading in iptables
[01:36] <mpmc> pbransford: lol
[01:36] <pbransford> laptop was internet provider from neighbors wifi, and a cable ran to the desktop
[01:36] <Honk_am_Werk> hello, i need some help with msttcorefonts
[01:36] <pbransford> which was the gaming rig
[01:36] <johnaaron> is there any reason why Synaptic would not be installed by default?
[01:36] <anavim> nelsmar, you're going to get fewer problems if you use 2.6.12 though, since breezy was made for 2.6.12
[01:36] <Lardarse> johnaaron: ouch!
[01:36] <nelsmar> yeah im usin it now.... and it says /dev/sda7 is non existant
[01:37] <detour> anyone know how to roll back to previous kernel?
[01:37] <tyler> Is it not normal that my Firefox (1.07) is unbelievably slow?
[01:37] <tyler> I use FF in windows and its fast, very fast.
[01:37] <pbransford> mpmc, actually... gentoo was helpful. Ubuntu wasn't even installed all the way and i was chrooted into it tweaking and installing custom junk
[01:37] <johnaaron> Lardarse: is there a way I can add it as a package from another program?
[01:37] <pbransford> and nano PWNS emacs and its ilk
[01:37] <Lardarse> you could try sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:37] <pbransford> simplicity. gota love it.
[01:37] <nelsmar> anavim, tell me as to why i am reading about repositories
[01:38] <Lardarse> but i don't know if it will work
[01:38] <mpmc> pbransford: The PC I'm on now was the only PC which is mainly used for gaming (Wow, brothers game) and I use mine for chatting etc, browsing, php scripting..
[01:38] <ale3hs> question: Eclipse or Java Studio Creator??
[01:38] <pbransford> mpmc, i was a gamer, modder, music maker, modler, coder-wannabe, etc
[01:38] <ale3hs> ..or smth else perhaps
[01:38] <pbransford> hehe never got very good at ANY of them hehe
[01:38] <n0dl> how do i run firefox from term?
[01:38] <anavim> !info  linux-source-2.6.12
[01:38] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-9.23 (breezy), Packaged size: 39493 kB, Installed size: 39628 kB
[01:39] <mpmc> pbransford: So windows has to go, I had to reinstall so, I could find the solution..
[01:39] <nelsmar> anavim is there a way to get the config of the current kernel? or the kernel tat comes with ubuntu?
[01:39] <nelsmar> or is EVERYTHING enabled by default
[01:39] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Surb about apt
[01:39] <matthew> !w32codecs
[01:39] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:39] <pbransford> mpmc, that sucks hardcore
[01:39] <anavim> nelsmar, no, the config file is available.. let me see where it was
[01:39] <mpmc> pbransford: well my brother moans :P
[01:39] <tyler> Question: LinuxX86 vs LinuxPPC; whats the difference?
[01:39] <anavim> nelsmar, I was telling you about repositories so you could understand why you would be unable to find a package
[01:39] <pbransford> tyler, the hardware its running on
[01:40] <detour> @tyler, PPC is for PowerPC hardware, bacially Macs
[01:40] <tyler> pbransford, I'm running 32bit Ubuntu..
[01:40] <pbransford> tyler, and the availability of binaries may be different
[01:40] <mpmc> pbransford: I like linux, but I like the windows ease of use...
[01:40] <tyler> ohhhh
[01:40] <sexualpotatoes> how do i run fglrxconfig after i get out of gnome?
[01:40] <tyler> rgr, thanks
[01:40] <anavim> nelsmar, your ubuntu config file is in /boot
[01:40] <blanky> hey guys
[01:40] <nelsmar> make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[01:40] <nelsmar> , i dont like that
[01:40] <nelsmar> oh i thought the file i was looking for said ubuntu in name
[01:40] <pbransford> ... install some dev packages ?
[01:40] <pbransford> hi blanky.
[01:40] <blanky> nelsmar, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <blanky> hey pbransford
[01:41] <detour> @abdul: your answer is here http://ubuntuguide.org/#gftp
[01:41] <anavim> nelsmar, try: "apt-cache search gcc-3.4"
[01:41] <nelsmar> thank you anavim thats the file i needed :P
[01:41] <Honk_am_Werk> while installing msttcore font i get following msg: Auflsen des Hostnamen proxy.at.firma.de      do i have to give the line     export HTTPPROXY="http://proxy.at.firma.de:3128"  mor info?
[01:41] <nelsmar> anavim that worys me.... cause gcc hasnt had problems before ive been using it all day
[01:41] <pbransford> i really hate how ubuntu has no firewall by default
[01:41] <anavim> nelsmar, because you were using gcc 4
[01:41] <sexualpotatoes> after i install my ati drivers how do i run fglrxconfig?
[01:41] <pbransford> stupid policy. even if you have no open ports you should use a firewall
[01:41] <blanky> sexualpotatoes, you dont have to I think
[01:41] <anavim> gcc -v
[01:41] <sexualpotatoes> blanky, it said to do it after install
[01:42] <detour> @anavim, in terminal type sudo fglrxconfig
[01:42] <anavim> detour, no
[01:42] <sexualpotatoes> blanky, do i have to change display driver to fglrx?
[01:42] <blanky> sexualpotatoes, comon man, you seriously installed it through the .run file you got from ati? COMON MAN
[01:42] <nelsmar> should i just install gcc3.4 ?
[01:42] <sexualpotatoes> blanky, yes
[01:42] <blanky> WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN THAT THEY ARE IN A DEBIAN BASED WORLD NOW!
[01:42] <sexualpotatoes> blanky, i am a noob
[01:42] <AbdulSpiegel> anyone know how to upgrade to Breezy from horay hedgehog 5.04
[01:42] <mpmc> bye all
[01:42] <AbdulSpiegel> ??
[01:43] <Milk_> Good evening!
[01:43] <pbransford> blanky, er... someone has to build it...
[01:43] <anavim> nelsmar, if you have a good reason, go ahead..
[01:43] <blanky> sexualpotatoes, *sigh* read this man
[01:43] <nelsmar> .... make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[01:43] <blanky> !ati
[01:43] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:43] <nelsmar> well how about that? lol
[01:43] <Milk_> anyone have an opnion on weither Firefox 1.5 is worth trying to install?
[01:43] <blanky> listen to ubotu sexualpotatoes
[01:43] <anavim> Milk_, I didn't install it, I just run it in place
[01:43] <Honk_am_Werk> while installing msttcore font i get following msg: Auflsen des Hostnamen proxy.at.firma.de      do i have to give the line     export HTTPPROXY="http://proxy.at.firma.de:3128"  mor info?
[01:43] <Milk_> anavim, does it stand alone?
[01:44] <blanky> !upgrade
[01:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:44] <xxtreme> anyone here ever installed qingy? im losing my hair trying to install this program
[01:44] <anavim> Milk_, it does for me..
[01:44] <jefferyb> I'm trying to make link on the Desktop for each users that logs on... check to see if it's there, if not, make one for them... I have the script to do all that, I just want to know where to put it...
[01:44] <Vann> nickrud, well... that didn't work out so well
[01:44] <nelsmar> kk how about this anavim... java in firefox lol
[01:44] <Milk_> anavim, interesting
[01:44] <nelsmar> ill giv eyou a cookie if you cna get this one!
[01:44] <AbdulSpiegel> ??
[01:44] <anavim> Milk_, I just had to copy my plugins to it's plugins folder.. that's it..
[01:44] <nelsmar> damn my screen is too bright hurting my eyes :(
[01:44] <Milk_> anavim, is it worth the time?
[01:44] <Vann> nickrud, I tried mounting hda3 and it said it wasnt a special device, i think, so i tried hde3 and it mounted it
[01:44] <anavim> nelsmar, not sure about java plugins...
[01:44] <tyler> is there any easy way to switch OS's on the fly... without annihilating resources?
[01:44] <GNAM> ok, when firefox 1.5 on repos?
[01:45] <nickrud> Vann, you'll probably need to get your bios to report your disks correctly, or use lilo.
[01:45] <Milk_> GNAM, in dapper
[01:45] <seth_k|lappy> GNAM, it will be in Dapper
[01:45] <anavim> Milk_, I don't like installing packages unless I absolutely have to.. and when I do, I use checkinstall
[01:45] <daved-> please please do not put firefox 1.5 on repos.. it's buggy crap
[01:45] <Vann> nickrud, if i change the way the bios reports it will it mess up windows?
[01:45] <anavim> Milk_, ubuntu packages are fine, I mean installing packages from source or .sh
[01:45] <Milk_> daved-, why do you say that?
[01:45] <seth_k|lappy> daved-, rolleyes
[01:45] <nickrud> Vann, I have no clue about windows :)
[01:45] <Vann> nickrud, mmm
[01:46] <seth_k|lappy> it's a lot faster than 1.0.7, and crashes less, daved-
[01:46] <Milk_> anavim, I'm not overly worried about it, except the excitement of something new
[01:46] <daved-> it has so many memory leaks it's not even funny
[01:46] <nickrud> Vann, I do have xp and use it occasionally, but very casually
[01:46] <daved-> i tried a beta a few weeks back and had to restart it every few hours
[01:46] <Fangz> How long before we are likely to see firefox 1.5 in the repositories?
[01:46] <Vann> nickrud, i just want it around for gaming :)
[01:46] <Milk_> daved-, you've run it?
[01:46] <holycow> also its use of memor is far more advanced
[01:46] <Milk_> Fangz, in dapper
[01:46] <holycow> open up 100 tabs simultaneously and weep
[01:46] <nickrud> Vann, that's one reason ;)
[01:47] <NaAani`> brb
[01:47] <anavim> Milk_, well, at the time it was firefox beta 1, so I didn't know if I would keep using it or want 1.0.7 back
[01:47] <Vann> nickrud, i guess i'll go romp around in the BIOS then
[01:47] <sajd> what is the reason packages are "kept back" in this case firefox on dapper ?
[01:47] <Milk_> anavim, aahhh
[01:47] <Honk_am_Werk> #time
[01:47] <sajd> (during dist-upgrade)
[01:48] <daved-> just in case firefox is added to repos.. is there any way to ignore a package during automatic upgrades?
[01:48] <anavim> Milk_, but I didn't break my system trying to get gimp 2.2 to build once  :P
[01:48] <pbransford> sajd, they are upgradable but require additional packages?
[01:48] <anavim> Milk_, this was 10 months ago on ubuntu..
[01:48] <Knowerrors> Can we access the repositories now that have FF 1.5?
[01:48] <sajd> pbransford, shouldn't they be installed as dependencies then?
[01:48] <sajd> oh, meybe they are not avail. yet
[01:48] <anavim> Milk_, er, I *did* break my system..
[01:48] <sajd> i see
[01:48] <pbransford> whats a dist-upgrade first...
[01:49] <sajd> apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get upgrade, both say the same thing about firefox
[01:49] <Milk_> daved-, I'm still curoius as to how you know the details of software thats been post-beta for like 5 hours
[01:49] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: might be worth getting it from mozilla site
[01:50] <pbransford> gota run
[01:50] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: they have .debs? or gotta build from source?
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: no, you dont have to build from source...here
[01:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> Milk: some people like to pretend their e-penis is bigger than anyone elses..... than again, for some people... it's actually true.
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:51] <tyler> Are there any good Java editors for Ubuntu? Eclipse?
[01:51] <Milk_> Sneaky_Bastard, like yours and mine? hahahaah... I just always question people who make blanket negative statements with no backup
[01:51] <anavim> tyler, yes, eclipse
[01:51] <dsacode> Hello! Can someone advice me non-eyecandy, non-fancy desktop environment? All thing i use are xterm\xemacs, and firefox\evolution for www\mail.. It must be easy-configurable, keyboard-driven and lightweight.. like optimized for kernel hacking :)
[01:52] <tyler> Also, I unpacked FF1.5 to /opt/, however, when I run /opt/firefox/firefox, it opens up FF1.07....?
[01:52] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: nice, thx, hope this doesn't break all my plugins ;)
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: hasnt for me so far
[01:52] <Hobbsee>  sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox
[01:52] <Hobbsee>  sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[01:52] <Hobbsee> tyler:
[01:53] <nelsmar> you know i think my distcc problem is because of the knoppix cd i used...
[01:53] <nelsmar> cause if i distcc my self it works 0.o
[01:53] <nelsmar> i ran a daemon and everything on me
[01:54] <detour> Fedora allows you to pick and choose which kernel to boot with after upgrading, how can i use the previous kernel with ubuntu?
[01:54] <Fangz> dsacode: EvilWM?
[01:54] <tyler> I just downloaded OpenOffice.org.  Now where is an 'advisable' place to unpack and install programs normally?  I'm just not used to the unix infrastructure
[01:54] <dsacode> Fangz: don't think so, it's not easy-configurable and so limited..
[01:54] <detour> someway to configure grub?
[01:55] <builder> is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between desktop workspaces?
[01:55] <Fangz> Well, what sort of configuration do you require?
[01:55] <Fangz> Have you tried some WMs and seen what you liked?
[01:55] <Telep> builder, ctrl-alt-arrow
[01:55] <dsacode> like twm, but with things like pager and virtual desktops.. i tried ctwm and it's so buggy..
[01:55] <Telep> that is, arrow-left or arrow-right
[01:55] <builder> Telep, thanks, just figured that out :P
[01:55] <builder> yep
[01:55] <sampan> dsacode, fluxbox?
[01:56] <dsacode> sampan: i surfed through its site, and it looks so eye-candy and not much useful..
[01:56] <Fangz> Fluxbox is pretty good
[01:56] <sampan> i dunno, it has pager/virtual desktops -- and you can stack applications on tabs and then keyboard shortcut to them
[01:56] <crsd> dsacode: then may be fvwm 2.5?
[01:57] <Fangz> Most advanced config is via a text config file, so, well
[01:57] <dsacode> crsd: fvwm is great, but have too many things to configure, don't want to spend much time writing configs :)
[01:57] <Fangz> And looking good isn't a sin, man
[01:58] <dsacode> Fangz: yes, may be..
[01:58] <dsacode> I just want something simple
[01:58] <dsacode> Like ctwm..
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jwm, wmii, Matchbox, are some of the newer light weight window managers out.
[01:59] <snausages> sorry i didn't catch it in here but is firefox gonna be seeded any time soon?
[02:02] <logical_mark> Hey how can I get Java runtime enviroment working with mozilla? I have it installed via SPM.
[02:03] <phiqtion> nalioth, busy?
[02:03] <nickrud> logical_mark, you may need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:04] <phiqtion> how can enable the floppy drive in a old laptop?
[02:04] <Phython_> Anyone know how to get a non-utf8 latin locale?
[02:04] <nalioth> phiqtion: never
[02:04] <phiqtion> nalioth: my laptop's bios is indicating the floppy is disable but it doesn't have an option to enable it.
[02:04] <logical_mark> nickrud: should I then select  "/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java" ?
[02:05] <nickrud> logical_mark, no, that's not one that works with mozilla; it's named sun or blackdown or something like that
[02:05] <nalioth> phiqtion: if your bios is locking you out, there's not much i can do
[02:06] <phiqtion> nalioth: what do you mean by locking me out?
[02:06] <logical_mark> nickrud: I only have to options to choose from, the one I just sent you and, "/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[02:06] <logical_mark> ". Now what?
[02:06] <nickrud> logical_mark, breezy?
[02:06] <skaja> what is that linux that can emulate windows
[02:07] <Fangz> wine?
[02:07] <pc22> im partitioning a disk. when do i consider it use for large file, when i save 500mb files, is it standard or large files??
[02:07] <logical_mark> nickrud: Yes Breezy upgrades from Horray
[02:07] <nalioth> phiqtion: if you bios gives you no options, i have no clue about it
[02:07] <logical_mark> nickrud: I upgraded to 5.10 if that makes more sense
[02:07] <Fangz> It is somewhat fiddly/scary though
[02:07] <nickrud> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 , that's the one in breezy multiverse
[02:07] <nickrud> logical_mark, ^^
[02:08] <builder> is there a command line irc client?
[02:08] <logical_mark> nickrud: thanks. it is downloading now and I will get back to you if it does not work . Thanks again
[02:08] <crsd> builder: irssi
[02:09] <pc22> nalioth, im partitioning a disk. when do i consider it use for large file, when i save 500mb files is ok?
[02:09] <blackgibson> ir bitchx or xchat-console
[02:09] <nickrud> logical_mark, a sun java from outside ubuntu can be found by asking ubotu about javadebs
[02:09] <blackgibson> or even
[02:10] <jefferyb> does ubuntu have a file similar to /etc/rc.local that runs peronal services, or whichever program that I want to run during booting time?
[02:11] <SymGeosis> Has anybody experienced lockups when booting with a USB flash drive inserted? Currently the bootup process locks up with my 1GB cruzer mini until I unplug it... sometimes. It doesn't happen always, but often.
[02:12] <jesseman_> !botbeer
[02:12] <nalioth> pc22: are you asking how large to make partitions or what file system to use?
[02:12] <ubotu> jesseman_: I haven't a clue
[02:12] <jesseman_> ahaha
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> jefferyb, of course ... /etc/init.d/
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> oh wait one file to list the services ?
[02:13] <jesseman_> how about
[02:13] <jesseman_> !botsnack
[02:13] <ubotu> thanks jesseman_ :)
[02:13] <jesseman_> <3
[02:13] <pc22> nalioth cos it is asking if it is large files 1inode for 1 megabyte
[02:13] <nalioth> pc22: i have no clue what an inode is
[02:13] <pc22> cos it is asking if it is large files 1inode for 1 megabyte
[02:14] <pc22> anyway ill just select standrad
[02:14] <pc22> thnaks
[02:14] <painkiler_> how do i get to .cvspass on ubuntu
[02:15] <Phython_> nevermind, dpkg-reconfigure locales let me add a new locale
[02:15] <painkiler_> how do i do cvs actullay?
[02:15] <painkiler_> what is the command?
[02:15] <SoulPropagation> what's the package name for ALSA midi support
[02:15] <SoulPropagation> painkiler_: cvs
[02:15] <LjL> i hate to ask this, but i need some help with realplayer streaming... i have a streaming i can see with Real Player, but i don't want to use it. it doesn't load in MPlayer. it only shows the first few frames in Xine-ui. it works in Kaffeine, but only shows one part of the stream (the stream is made up of two separate video parts)
[02:16] <painkiler_> bash: cvs: command not found
[02:16] <SoulPropagation> painkiler_: install it
[02:16] <LjL> painkiler_: sudo aptitude install cvs
[02:18] <painkiler_> me
[02:18] <painkiler_> *silly me
[02:18] <ericz> i want to setup sshd so that it requires me to have a key w/ passphrase [as well as password]  to login
[02:18] <ericz> can anyone help me out?
[02:19] <Sneaky_Bastard> you are beyond all ehlp
[02:19] <Sneaky_Bastard> sorry
[02:19] <Sneaky_Bastard> :p
[02:19] <ericz> haha
[02:19] <ericz> ssh keys are beyond me :/
[02:20] <perry753> Has anyone here done any Ubuntu bootup optimizations?
[02:20] <chapium> yo
[02:20] <perry753> nobody?
[02:21] <Fangz> Hmm, so a Breezy FF1.5 package will definitely never appear?
[02:21] <perry753> this sucks
[02:21] <perry753> im out
[02:21] <chapium> i've got a few partitions in windows, but i have no clue what drive goes to what disk..  Anyone know how to find this?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> chapium: sudo fdisk -l
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Fangz: could go into backports, otherwise use !firefox1/5
[02:21] <LuFF> system > administration > disks
[02:21] <theblue> Hi all.
[02:22] <Hobbsee> !tell Fangz about firefox1.5
[02:22] <Aelthor> I have a problem compiling a kernel... my computer always shuts down randomly in the middle of it.  Anyone have any ideas?
[02:22] <theblue> Will the x86 version of Ubuntu work on a 64-bit box?
[02:22] <LjL> theblue: yes
[02:23] <Fangz> Hobbsee: It's just nicer to be using official packages
[02:23] <LjL> have faith in backports then
[02:24] <MickMcMack> If I have the x86_64bit Ubuntu, will the packages be built for the AMD64?
[02:25] <ericz> anyone know about ssh keys? :/
[02:25] <LjL> MickMcMack: yes
[02:25] <Fangz> How do you add the backports repository?
[02:25] <theblue> Are the APT repositories in 64bit and x86 the same, other than the build?
[02:25] <Aelthor> ericz:  I don't know anything about them, but is something like this what you're looking for? http://cfm.gs.washington.edu/security/ssh/client-pkauth/
[02:26] <crafteh> anyone know when Firefox 1.5 will show up on the apt repositories?
[02:26] <painkiler_> how do install c compiler?
[02:26] <ericz> sorta maybe, thanks aelthor
[02:26] <crimsun> theblue: yes
[02:26] <crimsun> painkiler_: install build-essential
[02:27] <painkiler_> install: too few arguments
[02:27] <crimsun> painkiler_: no, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:27] <vbgunz> anyone know how I can give gnome-terminal an exact size?
[02:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ok. I had a Linuxant modem, it kicked me off every 60.5 minutes. I get a serial modem, its kicking me off every 60.5 minutes... Anyone have a solution?
[02:28] <vbgunz> gnome-terminal seems to be hooked on increments... I cannot give it an exact size...
[02:28] <painkiler_> get broadband
[02:28] <vbgunz> anybody know why?
[02:28] <crimsun> painkiler_: it's backward-compatible with xterm, use --geometry=
[02:28] <crimsun> painkiler_: sorry
[02:28] <painkiler_> oh really
[02:28] <painkiler_> wow
[02:28] <crimsun> vbgunz: it's backward-compatible with xterm, use --geometry=
[02:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> painkiler_: 2000 feet away :(
[02:28] <vbgunz> crimsun
[02:28] <vbgunz> crimsun: ok
[02:29] <painkiler_> move then
[02:29] <painkiler_> or get wimax
[02:29] <jefferyb> Thanks guys for the help... I haven't gotten to work, but I will be back later with more questions... Thank you again for the help
[02:29] <Slaj_R> Question...  Sometimes my external HD doesn't appear on the desktop.  If i switch it on and off, it usually corrects itself.  Right now, it shows in nautilus but not on the desktop.  How do I fix?
[02:29] <rixth> How long roughly till we get Firefox 1.5 in Breezy? (its out now)
[02:29] <SoulPropagation> F5
[02:29] <SoulPropagation> rixth: just install it from firefox's site
[02:29] <painkiler_> is 1.5 out!
[02:30] <crimsun> rixth: no chance until it's in Dapper.
[02:30] <painkiler_> dude i need to go and install it...!
[02:30] <rixth> painkiler_, http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5&os=linux&lang=en-US
[02:30] <vogella> ericz: What is the problem with the ssh keys?
[02:30] <painkiler_> hanx
[02:30] <rixth> It ain't that great.
[02:30] <ericz> no problem just
[02:30] <ericz> i want to setup sshd so i need a physical key file or something
[02:30] <ericz> to login
[02:30] <vogella> ericz: ssh-keygen -t rsa
[02:30] <painkiler_> i have been using the rc and betas for a long time now
[02:30] <ericz> ...?
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Is there something in linux that restricts a connection?
[02:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Like a timer?
[02:31] <vogella> ericz: Should create a key.
[02:31] <ericz> and?
[02:31] <vogella> You asked to get a key, right?
[02:31] <painkiler_> you should look in the connection settings
[02:31] <ericz> i have no idea how to use it
[02:31] <ericz> sorry, completely new to ssh
[02:31] <vogella> What do you want to do?
[02:31] <tj_> hey guys, how do i rerun hardware detection for my new wireless card?
[02:31] <ericz> i want to store a (key i guess) file on my flash drive that i need to login to ssh...
[02:32] <gpd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <-- for all you breezy firefox 1.5 ppl...
[02:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> odd...
[02:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol
[02:32] <vbgunz> crimsun, it seems this is a known bug with gnome-terminal
[02:32] <vogella> ericz: ok then I suggest to first search goole to understand what ssh is ;-)
[02:32] <crimsun> vbgunz: it seems to work here...
[02:32] <Argblat> hello?
[02:32] <ericz> i know what it is
[02:33] <ericz> i can login normally..etc
[02:33] <Argblat> hi all
[02:33] <ericz> i just want to know how to use key files or whatever..
[02:33] <donza> Argblat: hi ya
[02:34] <vbgunz> crimsun: I am trying to get an exact size... for example, If I open gnome-terminal at a width of 1134... it opens at 1130. If I try 1135, it opens at 1140... It won't resize to an exact number... it seems to do it in increments of 10 give or take...
[02:34] <Argblat> is anyone in the mood to field some questions from a linux newbie
[02:34] <Oceansblue> I am
[02:35] <pawdro> hi, ive just added new user to the system, and I cant make su, what to do to make it enable?
[02:35] <gpd> Argblat: just fire away---everyone else does ;)
[02:36] <HedgeMage> Argblat: do I have to go to an actual field, or can I answer them from my dining room ?
[02:36] <paolob> Hi guys! anyone knows of a script that autogenerates accounts like n1, n2, n3, etc.?
[02:36] <HedgeMage> :P
[02:36] <gpd> paolob: you mean sudo... edit /etc/sudoers and add that new person
[02:36] <Oceansblue> change group priviledges
[02:36] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[02:36] <shadeofgrey> is it possible to upgrade tpo firefox 1.5 thru apt-get yet?
[02:36] <Oceansblue> make him a member of an admin group
[02:36] <vbgunz> crimsun: is there an ignore geomtry for gnome-terminal?
[02:36] <shadeofgrey> if not how do i make that possible?
[02:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> 1.05, isn't it ?
[02:37] <paolob> gpd: no, I meant to generate user accounts (I need them in edubuntu)
[02:37] <Argblat> ok...thank you Oceansblue...my first question is: I just installed Ubuntu on my computer (not this one, but another one)....however, I installed version 5.04 which is the one they mailed to me...now I see that they have a newer version, and 1. Should I upgrade and 2.how to upgrade
[02:37] <crimsun> vbgunz: a what?
[02:37] <shadeofgrey> sneak:  no.  1.5 -- the upgrade is VERY substantial
[02:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> hmmm
[02:37] <builder_> how long you guys think before FF 1.5 will be relead and available through apt?
[02:37] <gpd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <-- for all you breezy firefox 1.5 ppl...
[02:37] <Oceansblue> have not tried an upgrade with Ubuntu but have with Debian
[02:37] <vbgunz> crimsun: something to tell gnome-terminal to ingore that incrmental behaviour... maybe something like ignore-geometry or something...
[02:37] <tj_> anyone know how to rerun hardware detection
[02:38] <Oceansblue> Generally it is experimental
[02:38] <Sneaky_Bastard> ty for that info, Shadey
[02:38] <Sneaky_Bastard> :D
[02:38] <HedgeMage> Argblat: I find that staying with the newest stable version of whatever I'm using is a Good Thing because of bug fixes, security patches, etc
[02:38] <jonathon> hello im using ubuntu and im thinking that nautilus seems way too simple
[02:38] <painkiler_> will this work in termial?
[02:38] <painkiler_> ./configure --prefix=/home/relaxed/.build.pkgs/mplayer-cvs --enable-largefiles --with-codecsdir=/home/relaxed/.build.pkgs/all-20050412 --enable-
[02:38] <jonathon> is there upgrades for it
[02:38] <crsd> :)
[02:38] <Oceansblue> I would reinstall if is not a lot of trouble to the new version
[02:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> I also hand out Coconut Macaroons and Irish Cream Coffee, depending upon how grateful I am
[02:39] <Argblat> Ubuntu seems to have some crazy names for it's releases...is there a chronological list?
[02:40] <tj_> anyone on hardware detection
[02:40] <Fangz> crimsun: You probably wanna add the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion link too
[02:40] <jonathon> is there anyway to improve the nautilus
[02:40] <Sneaky_Bastard> Wiero Warthog ?
[02:40] <gpd> Argblat: the number tells you everything... year.month  eg. 5.04
[02:40] <Sneaky_Bastard> California Cactus ?
[02:41] <Sneaky_Bastard> Zebra Zephyr ?
[02:41] <crimsun> Fangz: no, that's a completely unsupported method of installing FF 1.5, and it will cause massive headaches on proper upgrades.
[02:41] <Argblat> so 5.04 was released may 2004?
[02:41] <crimsun> same goes for non-Ubuntu-distributed FF 1.5 debs
[02:41] <crimsun> Argblat: no, Apr 2005
[02:42] <Fangz> Well, you will keep getting asked about it. Just say it's for hasty early adopters only
[02:42] <Argblat> ahh
[02:42] <jonathon> hello people? is the nautilus you get from ubuntu the most advanced version of nauilus?
[02:42] <crimsun> Fangz: we don't encourage users to break their systems, sorry.
[02:42] <crimsun> jonathon: "most advanced"?
[02:43] <painkiler_> what is the default video player ubuntu uses
[02:43] <Argblat> so you don't suggest upgrading to 5.10 and there is no simple way to do this upgrade
[02:43] <Oceansblue> totem
[02:43] <jonathon> crimsun: yes its very annoyingling simplisic
[02:43] <jonathon> im upgrading now
[02:43] <jonathon> from 5.04 to 5.20
[02:43] <crimsun> jonathon: there are all sorts of tweaks you can make using gconf keys; have a gander online.
[02:43] <jonathon> 5.10
[02:43] <Argblat> johnathon: how do you upgrade?
[02:44] <shadeofgrey> hey guys
[02:44] <jonathon> i just changed my apt source to the breezy sources
[02:44] <Argblat> (i'm a complete newbie, but i'd like to start learning with the newest version)
[02:44] <Sneaky_Bastard> the beans that helped President Reagan make friends with Gorbachev
[02:44] <Argblat> (unless that is not advisable)
[02:44] <Sneaky_Bastard> ;-)
[02:44] <jonathon> and type sudo apt-get dis-upgrade
[02:44] <Sneaky_Bastard> seriously
[02:44] <shadeofgrey> im looking at the instructions online for upgrading to mozilla firefox 1.5 -- do you guys think that i should apt-get remove mozilla-firefox BEFORE attempting any of this?
[02:45] <crimsun> jonathon: you need to ''sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade''
[02:45] <Argblat> i'm assuming i need an internet connection for that to work?
[02:45] <Fangz> Argblat: Yes
[02:45] <Argblat> beucase that would be my next question
[02:45] <jonathon> what is the aptitude business?
[02:45] <Fangz> about 500 mb
[02:45] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: yes, but I recommend you wait until it's backported properly.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> shadeofgrey: i left mine in...doesnt seem to be a problem...
[02:45] <dbglt> 'lo again folks, Ubuntu install coming along nicely :)
[02:45] <crimsun> jonathon: aptitude is a drop-in replacement for apt-get
[02:45] <dbglt> I'm trying to install ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:45] <shadeofgrey> the instructions dont say so - but i cant imagine that leaving the version i hgave now and then ADDING amoyher one and THEN trying to remove the prev version would be ....  necessarily healthy for my overa;l; config
[02:45] <dbglt> but the link doesn't seem to work
[02:45] <jonathon> so apt-get is the same?
[02:46] <dbglt> does anyone know of a mirror?
[02:46] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: I _strongly_ recommend you wait til it's properly backported.
[02:46] <shadeofgrey> crimsun:  according to the wii the ubuntu version of FF 1.5 is DOGASS slow
[02:46] <Hobbsee> !tell dbglt about w32codecs
[02:46] <dbglt> this is the restricted media w32codecs package
[02:46] <Argblat> how do I get my Linksys WUSB54G wireless usb receiver to work with Ubuntu?
[02:46] <jonathon> firefox is dog ass anyway why would u use that crap when u can use opera
[02:46] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: funny how you wouldn't ever know til you tried, eh?
[02:46] <dbglt> Hobbsee, thanks. Maybe that should be added to the wiki? It only has that one link
[02:47] <Fangz> shadeofgrey: There is no ubuntu version of 1.5
[02:47] <Fujitsu> jonathon: Firefox is Free, Opera is just free.
[02:47] <Fangz> Yet
[02:47] <jonathon> yeah but opera is free now that is all that matters
[02:47] <shadeofgrey> crimsun:  Fangs:  not according to the official ubuntu wiki
[02:47] <shadeofgrey> er
[02:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> that's odd
[02:47] <shadeofgrey> Fangz even
[02:47] <crimsun> jonathon: Opera is not free.
[02:47] <jonathon> yes it is
[02:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> I've never experiences "DOGASS slow" with my FF
[02:47] <Fangz> Where?
[02:47] <Fujitsu> Opera is free, but not Free.
[02:47] <jonathon> is not opensource
[02:47] <jonathon> but its free to use
[02:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> free software it is not
[02:48] <Fujitsu> But not Free.
[02:48] <Fujitsu> Freedom is good, freedom is not so good.
[02:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> free of charge, perhaps
[02:48] <shadeofgrey> Fangz:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:48] <Argblat> as of very recently it became free, right?
[02:48] <crimsun> jonathon: no it is not. Are we allowed to make modifications to the source code and redistribute our modified version? No. It fails to meet the DFSG.
[02:48] <Fujitsu> Very recently, yes.
[02:48] <Fangz> shadeofgrey: That isn't an ubuntu version
[02:48] <chapium> can ubuntu be installed without a cdrom?
[02:48] <crimsun> if it fails DFSG, it's not Free enough for us.
[02:48] <jonathon> ok well you are obviously working under some purist ideal of free
[02:48] <jonathon> it costs you no money thats all i say
[02:48] <NoobieDoobieDo> What is DFSG ?
[02:48] <shadeofgrey> Fangz:  yes i know.  but that link has trext in ity that claims you explicitly shouldnt use the ubuntu version because its dogass slow
[02:48] <Fujitsu> We are working on the definition of 'Free,' not 'free.'
[02:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> and you probably are a mercenary scumwad who would be happy working for Micro$haft
[02:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> ;-)
[02:49] <Fangz> jonathon: It costs you no money to pirate microsoftr
[02:49] <Argblat> Does anyone have experience making a Linksys USB Wireless Receiver work with Linux/Ubuntu
[02:49] <Fujitsu> Probably, yes...
[02:49] <crimsun> jonathon: well yes obviously we MUST operate under on it for packages that are in the 'main' component.
[02:49] <painkiler_> which mplayer package do i download in aptget
[02:49] <crimsun> painkiler_: whichever one matches your $arch, e.g., mplayer-k7 in multiverse.
[02:49] <shadeofgrey> painkiler_:  depemnds on your hardware
[02:49] <jonathon> you dont need to pirate opera fangz it is financially free
[02:49] <painkiler_> p3
[02:49] <painkiler_> 128mb ram
[02:50] <painkiler_> a crappy laptop
[02:50] <painkiler_> lol
[02:50] <crimsun> painkiler_: mplayer-586 in multiverse, then.
[02:50] <painkiler_> ok
[02:50] <infamus> anyone got anything cool i can do with KDE?
[02:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> people without ethical principles are what make the world suck so bad, jonathon
[02:50] <Fangz> As well as the philosophical reasons
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> We dont discuss pirating here now will we.
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> word of advise fangz.. dont ask..
[02:51] <Fangz> ??
[02:51] <infamus> * thinks gnome is better to, but wants to learn the full Tao of linux
[02:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> M_M: a misunderstanding
[02:51] <jonathon> sneaky_bastard: what is that suppose to mean?
[02:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> read the backscroll with regard to jonathon here
[02:51] <crimsun> this is straying off-topic.
[02:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> jonathonif you don't know, there is no explaining it.
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> ah i see
[02:52] <infamus> guess no one here likes to run ubunto with KDE....
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> fangz wasnt talking about pirating
[02:52] <Fangz> infamus: I think the major benefit with KDE is the alleged integration
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> other dude was
[02:52] <jonathon> sneaky_bastard i know what you meant i thinking its a little rude to imply
[02:52] <crimsun> infamus: they're in #kubuntu
[02:52] <Sneaky_Bastard> if the shoe doesn't fit, you have nothing to wear
[02:52] <infamus> oh, oops, my bad, yhought this was kubuntu
[02:52] <paolob> I generated the edubuntu-es channel!
[02:52] <Argblat> where in the world is it lunch time?
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> jonathon: Pirating is wrong..
[02:53] <Fangz> Mr_Milenko: No one was really. I was just making a hyperbolic point about financial freeness not being everything
[02:53] <jonathon> who the hell is talking about pirating??????????????
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> I DONT KNOW!
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[02:53] <Sneaky_Bastard> THIRD BAS!!!
[02:53] <Sneaky_Bastard> BASE!!
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> HE SET US UP THE BOMB!
[02:53] <NoobieDoobieDo> I did "apt-get upgrade-dist" to upgrade Hoary -> Breezy.  Now it says I have 28 packages that can not be upgraded, but does not tell me what I need to do.
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> that was gay..
[02:53] <Sneaky_Bastard> (famous Abbott and Costello sketch)
[02:53] <Argblat> ...so about helping Argblat get Linksys USB Wireless to work with Ubuntu...
[02:54] <Fangz> NoobieDoobieDo: It is SO much easier if you do it with Synaptic
[02:54] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fangz: How
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> run Synaptic
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[02:54] <NoobieDoobieDo> I already did.
[02:54] <Fangz> Edit the apt sources like the instructions say
[02:54] <NoobieDoobieDo> I already did
[02:54] <Fangz> Then open synaptic, click mark all upgrades, choose smart upgrade
[02:54] <Fangz> then sit back and relax
[02:54] <NoobieDoobieDo> Syn. is what tells me I'm missing 28 upgrades.
[02:55] <Fangz> Which ones?
[02:55] <NoobieDoobieDo> wget, sudo, rpm, rythmbox, linux-image-386
[02:55] <NoobieDoobieDo> and so on
[02:55] <Cody`> is there a backports up yet?
[02:55] <Aelthor> try running it again.  It took me two passes to get it completely upgraded
[02:55] <Fangz> What does it mean by missing?
[02:55] <Cody`> !tell backports
[02:56] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fangz : it means because something wrong on my system I can not get all updates.
[02:56] <Fangz> Well, does it tell you why?
[02:56] <NoobieDoobieDo> No.
[02:56] <painkiler_> i get the same problems everytime when i open mplayer and start a video
[02:56] <painkiler_> some font isnt working
[02:56] <painkiler_> then it is interupted by 11 somthing
[02:57] <painkiler_> then it crashes and tells me to recomile  nad
[02:57] <crsd> how can i use xfonts-terminus in gnome-terminal (did mkfontdir , mkfontscale in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/ , xset fp+ /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/, it shows in xfontsel, but not in gnome-terminal font selection) ?
[02:58] <Fangz> Try and select the upgrades manually
[02:59] <merc> uh, i went to dist-upgrade after chaning my sources etc..and now its saying its having a problem processing kdenetworkconf package :( anyone heard of something similar or know what's going on?
[02:59] <Aelthor> NoobieDoobieDo:  Did you try doing a second apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:59] <NoobieDoobieDo> It's also telling me I have broken packages but Syn. cant/wont fix them.
[02:59] <Fangz> merc: Using kubuntu?
[02:59] <NoobieDoobieDo> Aelthor: yes.
[03:00] <vogella> I'm currently a debian (testing) user. How do you upgrade your distro in case a new version is released?
[03:00] <merc> Fangz: no, but i think i installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:00] <Fangz> merc: Then ignore and continue
[03:00] <Hobbsee> !tell vogella about upgrade2breezy
[03:00] <merc> i wouldnt mind removing kde all together, then re-installing, but it wont let me just continue
[03:00] <merc> it stops everything :(
[03:00] <Fangz> Go and uncheck kdenetworkconf
[03:01] <Fangz> In synaptic
[03:01] <merc> heh, that's another problem, its in the middle of upgrading stuff so startx wont even work :X
[03:01] <merc> can i uninclude something via apt?
[03:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Err.. everytime I try to turn on DMA for a drive it spits back:
[03:01] <Fangz> man apt?
[03:01] <merc> like apt-get dist-upgrade except knetworkconf
[03:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe> root@ubuntu:/home/biscuit # hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[03:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe> /dev/dvd:
[03:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[03:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[03:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[03:01] <merc> Fangz: k'doke, thanks for the direction :)
[03:02] <Fangz> If there isn't an option, then use apt to uninstall kde
[03:02] <vogella> Hobbsee: Thank you. So it is like my s/my/Debian world.... Seems easy enough. Thanks again.
[03:02] <opticalcircuit> can nyone tell me how do  i change permissions for a folder... from the terminal..i am using live cd
[03:02] <Hobbsee> vogella: no problems
[03:02] <n0dl> is there a cli program that can sign on aim?
[03:02] <NoobieDoobieDo> --> http://paste.lisp.org/display/14140 <-- is what "apt-get upgrade-dist" gives me......
[03:02] <crimsun> n0dl: naim
[03:03] <vogella> opticalcircuit: chmod
[03:03] <opticalcircuit> vogella... how to make the folder writable
[03:03] <Seveas> !seen P3L|C4N0
[03:03] <HansZwolle> P3L|C4N0!n=gcamposm@200.121.122.104 was last seen 4 hr 59 min 32 s ago
[03:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'p3l|c4n0', Seveas
[03:03] <Seveas> ubotu, then open our eyes
[03:03] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:03] <vogella> opticalcircuit: chmod +999 folder ;-)
[03:04] <Seveas> HansZwolle, and you're out of here
[03:04] <NoobieDoobieDo> What happened is during "apt-get upgrade-dist" a whole lot of LIBS got removed and never put back.
[03:04] <opticalcircuit> thx
[03:04] <Fangz> NoobieDoobieDo: Don't worry about it
[03:05] <Fangz> If things have been kept back, that's normal
[03:05] <opticalcircuit> vogella.. it says invalid string for 999
[03:05] <opticalcircuit> i have to make that folder writable
[03:05] <opticalcircuit> cause.. its in readonly mode
[03:05] <opticalcircuit> i am in live cd
[03:05] <Fangz> It shouldn't cause any problems
[03:05] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fangsz : Its a big problem. I'm having issues with : libc6, lubcairo2, libfontconfig1, libglib2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0, lublaunchpad, libpango1.0-0, libperl5.8
[03:05] <cpare> hello - can someone help me with CIDR formatting...
[03:05] <Agrajag> opticalcircuit: 777 not 999
[03:05] <Agrajag> there is no 9 in octal numerals
[03:05] <opticalcircuit> thanks agra
[03:05] <merc> how do i work that ubotu thing?
[03:06] <Fangz> what sort of problems?
[03:06] <merc> ?? breezy upgrade
[03:06] <aaarg> anyone know how to add a specific ftp address to a .pac (automatic proxy config file for firefox)?
[03:06] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How come my hardware won't enable DMA
[03:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fangz : all the versions are out of whack.  Doing the dist upgrade removed Xchat and now when i reinstall it it tells me the versions of all the above libs is not great enough.
[03:06] <crimsun> NoobieDoobieDo: what's the original distro, and what's the target?
[03:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> Hoary - > Breezy
[03:07] <Milk_> anyone here installed ubuntu server?
[03:07] <Fangz> Does it not let you upgrade them?
[03:07] <NoobieDoobieDo> I changed the sources then did "apt-get upgrade-dist". At which point it removes XChat, upgrades but problems remain.
[03:07] <crimsun> NoobieDoobieDo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:07] <merc> dude, wiki.ubuntu.com is ssl, but my damn terminal based browser doesnt support it.
[03:07] <merc> way to go!
[03:08] <merc> *sigh*
[03:08] <Milk_> what browser are you using merc?
[03:08] <merc> Milk_: links
[03:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> lynx does. Or was it links..
[03:08] <merc> i just need the damn source.list line for breezy from wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:08] <Milk_> merc, hrm, I thought that links did
[03:08] <NoobieDoobieDo> crimsun: Done.
[03:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lynx is the one that supports SSL.
[03:09] <Milk_> does anyone have any idea why ubuntu server CD isn't bootable?
[03:09] <merc> i'd be much obliged if someone would paste it for me :)
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I think at least...
[03:09] <mustard5> [FR31NS] Kendrick, you should pick an easier nickname for me to autocomplet ;)
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I KNOW ONE DOES!
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> :P
[03:09] <[FR31NS] Kendrick> :P
[03:09] <NoobieDoobieDo> crimsun: I can see where one thing is still marked Horay.
[03:09] <Kendrick_> have to be reged to join a channel...
[03:09] <mustard5> Kendrick_, hehe thats better
[03:10] <mustard5> Kendrick_, join #ubuntu-offtopic too (for idle chat)
[03:11] <toresbe> Are there plans for a Firefox 1.5 backport?
[03:11] <Fangz> NoobieDoobieDo: 3 things
[03:11] <Kendrick_> biscuitian lynx does support  ssl if built so...
[03:11] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fangz : yes I just corrected them.
[03:11] <maruchan> how do i make minizie icons, show up on the pannel
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> *Whistles as terminal scrolls Cedega compiling.
[03:11] <Kendrick_> heheh
[03:11] <maruchan> like azureus, and gaim and stuff
[03:12] <opticalcircuit> i am using the live cd. and i have mounted my harddrive.. now i am not able to save files to that drive, cause it says that i dont have the permission to write to that folder. what do  i do ??
[03:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Bleh. Still won't go. I give advice, never CVS with Windows.
[03:12] <felipe_> Hello, does anyone else has trouble with the nvidia driver and the new kernel?? the xserver wont display with the new kernel...
[03:12] <NoobieDoobieDo> Oh wow I have a whole new 205 MB of stuff to be downloaded.
[03:12] <SAM_theman> yo people
[03:13] <Fangz> NoobieDoobieDo: Well, those should fix some of your problems
[03:13] <gsmcyber> disconnect
[03:13] <NoobieDoobieDo> Fangz: yes.
[03:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> NoobieDoobieDo: If its libs, chances are 75% will come off the cd.
[03:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> there*
[03:14] <NoobieDoobieDo> Is there any way to control bandwidth so that no one app can use 100% ?
[03:14] <Fangz> NoobieDoobieDo: You should have just replaced it with the version from the website
[03:14] <fdelacruz> gudmorning guys
[03:14] <opticalcircuit> what command do i use to copy files
[03:14] <crimsun> NoobieDoobieDo: did you fix your sources.list?
[03:14] <fdelacruz> anyone already try samba ldap?
[03:14] <SAM_theman> i am having a little problem (http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories) it shows how to add them for ubuntu 5.04 not 5.10 were can i get 5.10 repositories
[03:15] <maruchan> on the pannel how do i get icons to reappear like azures and stuff
[03:15] <mustard5> opticalcircuit, the cp command
[03:15] <synackuator> has anyone been able to get gmail's smtp to work?
[03:15] <opticalcircuit> thx
[03:15] <synackuator> via a local client/?
[03:15] <spacey> SAM_theman, replace hoary for breezy
[03:15] <fdelacruz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 SAM_theman try this hope this will help you
[03:15] <the> Can anyone help me with enabling Direct Rendering?
[03:16] <donza> i just noticed that sound is skipping when i'm loading a webpage in firefox...
[03:16] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I check to see if I have DRI enabled?
[03:16] <donza> what could have caused it
[03:17] <mustard5> Kendrick_, you registering?
[03:17] <maruchan> so is ther a way to get the icons to show up?
[03:17] <maruchan> i think its cause i closed it or something
[03:18] <Fujitsu> Biscuitian_Warhe: 'glxinfo | grep direct'.
[03:18] <Kendrick_> ?
[03:19] <the> Can anyone help me with enabling Direct Rendering?
[03:19] <jonathon> hello when u download the libdvdcss2 then totem runs dvd?? do i need to link the library anywhere?
[03:19] <Fujitsu> the: probably.
[03:19] <the> Fujitsu:  ....How, then?
[03:19] <Fujitsu> Well, is it working at the moment?
[03:19] <Fujitsu> What type of card do you have?
[03:19] <the> Fujitsu:  No. I'm enabling it.
[03:19] <the> I have an ATI
[03:20] <SAM_theman> wohooo it worked
[03:20] <fdelacruz> anyone already use or implement samba and ldap?
[03:20] <Fujitsu> the: It should be working fine, then.
[03:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Fujitsu.. Err it spit out a lot of missing things.
[03:20] <Fujitsu> Like what?
[03:21] <the> Fujitsu:  My OpenGL Programs freeze and then I do glxinfo or whatever to see it and it says it's disabled. but you can plainly see that DR is the error maker.
[03:21] <jonathon> can konquoer replace nautilus
[03:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> , like 8 times
[03:21] <maruchan> so anyone have any clues.. how to add the icons back on the pannel, when there minnized and not in use
[03:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I installed the ATI proprietery driver.
[03:21] <Fujitsu> Biscuitian_Warhe: Breezy?
[03:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hoary
[03:21] <niggpie> I was wondering what the Ubuntu version of WindowsKey + D (Display Desktop) is?
[03:21] <Fujitsu> the: Have you got the 'Use video acceleration' permission?
[03:22] <NoobieDoobieDo>  Is there anyway to manage bandwidth so no one application can use 100% ?
[03:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> If i upgrade Hoary to Breezy via synaptic, will it uninstall everything?
[03:22] <sn> hola alguien de chile
[03:22] <jonathon> konqueror seems so much better than nautilus how can i swap them?
[03:22] <SAM_theman> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[03:22] <SAM_theman> ?
[03:22] <the> Fujitsu:  Do I have to enable it or something? I mean..shouldn't root have it?
[03:23] <Fujitsu> the: Erm, you shouldn't be logged in as root!
[03:23] <Fujitsu> Biscuitian_Warhe: I was using Hoary until about this time yesterday, and the default ATI driver worked fine.
[03:23] <jonathon> sam i think u need the breezy backport repositories
[03:23] <the> Fujitsu:  If I ruin it I have backups, don't worry.
[03:23] <Fangz> jonathon: Really? I find nautilus usually faster
[03:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Fujitsu: What kinda card?
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Only a Radeon 7000... But I have another one with a 9800 and I believe it was fine.
[03:24] <snape> HOLA A TODOS ALGUIEN DE CHILE
[03:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Konqueror hates me *observes bite marks on arm*.
[03:24] <jonathon> it lacks features i like such as opening a terminal in the current directory
[03:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Fujitsu. Oh, i have a 300XSE
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Konqueror is better for some things... And Nautilus just committed suicide at me.
[03:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> jonathon: I'll second that complaint
[03:24] <snape> hola
[03:25] <mustard5> are breezy backports functional now?
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Brb. I am logging in and out...
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Wow. Im glad i got this serial modem. So much better than Conexant.
[03:25] <Sneaky_Bastard> snape: English pelase
[03:25] <durt> !es
[03:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:25] <eu_quero_mp3> how can I install firefox 1.5? is there some repository avaiable?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[03:25] <ubotu> I heard firefox1.5 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[03:25] <SAM_theman> were can i get the backports?
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eu_quero_mp3: Firefox site dude...
[03:25] <snape> tank
[03:26] <GMachine_24> Hi. I am using Kino to import video from a JVC camcorder - the video imports fine but the sound is garbled something awful on playback. I have searched Kino's support and elsewhere and come up with nothing.
[03:27] <jerry> I got a quick question.  I just finished installing ubuntu how do I get my screen resolution to be better than 640x480?
[03:27] <GMachine_24> system>preferences>screen resolution
[03:27] <jerry> running on a 3d Rage LT Pro AGP-133
[03:27] <jerry> my only choices is 640x480
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> WOOT
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> JUNO WEB
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol
[03:28] <GMachine_24> search the ubuntu forums - there are howtos to reset your video config file
[03:28] <jerry> ok Thanks GM
[03:28] <GMachine_24> sure thing
[03:28] <jerry> what's the web addy if you have it handy?
[03:28] <Eighth> i just installed 5.10 on my inspiron 3800 and i'm trying to use my orinoco gold wifi card to connect to my local network.  wifi ap is functional and accessible from other machines, but my lappy only gets an ipv6 addy and won't connect to the network
[03:29] <GMachine_24> i don't know it.
[03:29] <SAM_theman> anyone know how to add backports for 5.10 so i can install java?
[03:29] <nemik> hmm topic says no, but how can upgrade firefox to 1.5 before freaking april?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> !tell SAM_theman about javadeb
[03:30] <GMachine_24> Kino anyone?
[03:30] <GMachine_24> Guess not.
[03:30] <nemik> SAM_theman, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal, the uncomment the lines to the backports
[03:30] <hadi> how do i install skype
[03:30] <hadi> ?\
[03:30] <SAM_theman> LOl i just installed that
[03:30] <mustard5> ubotu: tell hadi about skype
[03:31] <SAM_theman> 15 secs ago LOL
[03:31] <erisco> what program can i use to change file formats
[03:31] <erisco> for music files?
[03:31] <SAM_theman> http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[03:31] <nemik> ubotu: tell nemik about skype
[03:31] <erisco> i need to change a .mid to a .mp3
[03:31] <SAM_theman> lol
[03:31] <hadi> ubotu: tell hadi about skype
[03:31] <Sneaky_Bastard> erisco: timidity
[03:31] <Sneaky_Bastard> changes MIDI into WAV
[03:31] <nemik> so anyone know how to forcefully upgrade firefox to the new 1.5?
[03:31] <Sneaky_Bastard> then you can burn it to MP3
[03:31] <niggpie> I was wondering what the Ubuntu version of WindowsKey + D (Display Desktop) is?
[03:32] <Slackwise> niggpie: There is none, but you can bind one in GNOME
[03:32] <eu_quero_mp3> how can I install amsn 0.95 b?
[03:32] <Slackwise> niggpie: Or actually, there might be one, but you can actually bind it to WinKey+D if you want. :P
[03:33] <niggpie> Slackwise:  Where do i find this miraculous bind feature? :O
[03:33] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about dvd
[03:33] <Slackwise> niggpie: one moment...
[03:33] <SAM_theman> lol this is cool
[03:33] <niggpie> eu_quero_mp3: there's an amsn package in the synaptic package manager
[03:33] <niggpie> Slackwise: np, thx!
[03:34] <Toran> is the new version of firefox in the repositories yet?
[03:34] <the> !tell the about ati
[03:34] <eu_quero_mp3> niggpie, yes, but it's not 0.95 b
[03:34] <_jason> !ffbackports
[03:34] <ubotu> _jason: Are you on ritalin?
[03:34] <_jason> !ffbackport
[03:34] <ubotu> ffbackport is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[03:34] <Slackwise> niggpie: Desktop --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:35] <Slackwise> niggpie: "Hide all wnidows and focus desktop"
[03:36] <mwe> Toran: it will only be availble in backports - I have no idea when though.
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Seveas: do you know what the 'c' bit does? ` crw-rw---- 1 root   tape      9, 128 2005-11-30 12:23 nst0`
[03:37] <logical_mark> Can anyone tell me why when I click a link sometimes in Mozilla the browser will just close?
[03:38] <mwe> Kamping_Kaiser: it means it's a character device file
[03:38] <mustard5> logical_mark, mine does that
[03:38] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, character special file
[03:38] <mustard5> logical_mark, usually when there is java involved
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks. i cant access it :(
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> so i was wondering
[03:38] <logical_mark> mustard5: what is the problem? Should I just start using Konquerer?
[03:38] <_jason> logical_mark, firefox 1.07 seg faults a lot (usually plugin related).  Version 1.5 is a lot more stable
[03:38] <mustard5> logical_mark, yeah...another browser is the fix
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> logical_mark: record the websites
[03:39] <SEJeff> logical_mark: remove mozplugger if you are running that
[03:39] <logical_mark> Kamping_Kaiser: What do you mean "record the websites"?
[03:39] <niggpie> Slackwise:  I'm not sure how to find Desktop --> Keyboard Shortcuts...  do you mean to right-click the desktop?
[03:39] <SEJeff> logical_mark: firefox is pretty stable, but mozplugger has been known to kill it
[03:39] <anavim> how do I disable gdm to login as just text?
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> logical_mark: record which websites it crashes on incase you add to a bug report/add a new one.
[03:40] <logical_mark> SEJeff: The only extension I have is the lang pack, which was standard.
[03:40] <Slackwise> niggpie: Uhh, you're in Ubuntu. I was assuming you had a default GNOME desktop. At the top should be "Desktop", or the equivelant in whatever language you use.
[03:40] <nemik> ok so just tar -xzvf the firefox tarball into a chosen directory, run its shell script from there once, then the bin firefox will be 1.5. cool. quick and painless. love this distro. :)
[03:40] <mustard5> anavim, whats your goal?
[03:40] <the> ubotu needs to give me the link to the ATI fglrx configuration HOWTO thing
[03:40] <ubotu> the: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:40] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about games
[03:40] <SEJeff> logical_mark: mozplugger is not an extension. I wasn't talking about extension. I was talking about an addon like mozplugger
[03:40] <anavim> mustard5, to start up faster, and also hopefully to make to make ~/.xinitrc execute when I start x
[03:41] <the> ubotu, ati.
[03:41] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:41] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about et
[03:41] <the> thanks
[03:41] <mustard5> anavim, ah ok..not sure how you would go about doing that soz
[03:41] <niggpie> Slackwise: I see :)  System --> Preferences --> Keyboard shortcuts
[03:41] <titanium> anavim: probably should've done a server install when installing ubuntu
[03:42] <Slackwise> niggpie: Ahh, it's different on Ubuntu. I forgot. I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment, sorry. :P
[03:42] <anavim> titanium, hmm... there's an idea  :)
[03:42] <mustard5> anavim, I think xinitrc is global with ubuntu
[03:42] <anavim> mustard5, my .xinitrc file doesn't seem to be getting exec'd
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[03:43] <mustard5> anavim, yeah..I had similar problems with trying to get nvidia-settings to load up at start up
[03:43] <mustard5> anavim, I ended up adding to the session startup options
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> the wiki page for installing firefox 1.5 is legit...  i just upgradedd manually myself and DAMN what a performance difference
[03:44] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: hey man
[03:44] <niggpie> Slackwise:  It won't let me use WindowsKey+D.  Everytime I hit WindowsKey (which it calls Super_L) and then D, it takes me to the "Desktop" heading and applies the Super_L to the desktop shortcut.  Ohhh well, looks like the default was Ctrl+Alt+D which I can get used to :)
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> ANYBODY that uses an older version of FF should IMMEDIATELY hit the wiki and follow the directions!
[03:44] <erisco> TiMidity++ version 2.13.2 -- MIDI to WAVE converter and player
[03:44] <erisco> not exactly what i was looking for
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> sethk:  Hiya Jeffy - you sexy linux beast
[03:44] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: Does adblock still work?
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> er
[03:44] <_jason> niggpie, you can just use alt too, that's what I do
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> SEJEff
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> even
[03:44] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: hey hey
[03:44] <shadeofgrey> SEJeff: yessor
[03:44] <Jesse> hello
[03:44] <the> Does anyone know when ATI drivers for AMD64 are going to be released?
[03:44] <Slackwise> niggpie: Nonsense. Your keyboard must be configured weird. Mine lists it as "<Mod4>+D"
[03:44] <zblach> anyone know the openoffice channel?
[03:45] <niggpie> _jason: alt + D doesn't get along with pinkyfinger + middlefinger :)
[03:45] <Jesse> quick question
[03:45] <niggpie> haha
[03:45] <shadeofgrey> the:  friends dont let friends buy ati graphics boards.  their linux support blows rancid ardvark nuts
[03:45] <anavim> mustard5, unfortunately, I would like it work from fluxbox...
[03:45] <Jesse> just did a first install of ubuntu, but chose too high of a display res... now i have a blank monitor on boot
[03:45] <the> shadeofgrey:  Oh shut up. I bought it for Windows gaming, but now it's freezing my OpenGL programs.
[03:45] <_jason> niggpie, lol I use the thumb myself, but you could always go with just ctrl then :D
[03:45] <snoopy_> shadeofgrey: very colorful picture there....
[03:45] <the> shadeofgrey:  At least it's faster than nVidia shit.
[03:45] <fangorious> i have gnome-power 0.2.8.1 installed, but none of the settings I specify seem to be applied (closing lid -> suspend)
[03:45] <mustard5> anavim, there are a couple of fluxbox enthusiasts that hang around in here
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> shadeofgrey: interesting ;)
[03:46] <erisco> .mid are not supported on music cd's are they?
[03:46] <mustard5> anavim, I don't recall who at this moment
[03:46] <Jesse> can't see to fix it... my rusty knowledge of commands dredged up xconfig which i tried form the recovery prompt, but not good command
[03:46] <shadeofgrey> the:  FASTER??  surely you jest....
[03:46] <niggpie> _jason: heey heey, ctrl+D would work rather swell, thanks! haha
[03:46] <the> shadeofgrey:  Not really.
[03:46] <hadi> is there any windows emulators better than wine?
[03:46] <shadeofgrey> the:  do yourself a favor...  return it and get a Nvidia 7800
[03:46] <_jason> niggpie, the wonders we can accomplish by working together...
[03:46] <SEJeff> Jesse: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <moquist> what's the recommended music manager/player for a Linux newbie?
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> wine is not an emulator :|
[03:46] <shadeofgrey> the:  you'll thank me in the morning
[03:46] <fangorious> moquist: amarok is really nice
[03:46] <SEJeff> moquist: rhythmbox or banshee
[03:47] <the> shadeofgrey:  Return my Radeon 9800 to get an nVidio 7800? Fuck that shit.
[03:47] <anavim> Kamping_Kaiser, linux is not unix  :)
[03:47] <shadeofgrey> moquist:  beep media player!  apt-get install beep-media-player
[03:47] <moquist> hehe; three suggestions already.  ;)
[03:47] <snoopy_> moquist: i use xmms myself
[03:47] <Fangz> shadeofgrey: Does 1.5 break any of the dependencies listed in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595 ?
[03:47] <moquist> four!
[03:47] <moquist> five!  :)
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> anavim: yes, and :)
[03:47] <shadeofgrey> Fangz:  Yers.  it kills the totem playback plugin
[03:47] <moquist> I use mpd and I'm happy, but I need to recommend something to a friend.  Now I have quite a list of suggestions - thx!
[03:47] <safrican> Hey
[03:48] <shadeofgrey> Fangz:  but installing mplayer will fix the problem and replace (Scro)tem with something better
[03:48] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: How much faster is it? Does switching between tabs with image intensive sites speed up? Thats a beast in 1.07
[03:48] <safrican> I am just wondering whether it is possible for both KDE and GNOME to exist in one installation
[03:48] <hadi> ubotu: tell hadi about toshiba
[03:48] <safrican> ?
[03:48] <safrican> [i think its possible but i'm not sure] 
[03:48] <sampan> safrican  yes they can
[03:48] <SEJeff> safrican: Yes
[03:48] <Fangz> safrican: yes
[03:48] <fangorious> safrican: yes
[03:48] <sampan> lol
[03:48] <the> shadeofgrey:  So now you agree that my card is faster, eh?
[03:48] <SEJeff> safrican: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I think
[03:48] <niggpie> _jason: :)
[03:48] <anavim> hmm... smashing /etc/inittab for fun and profit  :D
[03:49] <SEJeff> anavim: The stack will feel left out
[03:49] <shadeofgrey> SEJeff:  lets put it this way..  Imagine going from being totally crippled (like me) to a 4 time sprinter olytmpic gold winner
[03:49] <fangorious> anyone using gnome-power 0.2.8.1 in breezy?
[03:49] <shadeofgrey> fangorious:  so, senior
[03:49] <anavim> SEJeff, yeah!
[03:49] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: so thats a yes
[03:50] <shadeofgrey> SEJeff: duh!  Here...  have a cookie!
[03:50] <safrican> sampan SEJeff jarlev fangorious .. thanks!
[03:50] <fangorious> shadeofgrey: so == si or so == no?
[03:50] <cedric> is any version of *ubuntu available with fluxbox as default desktop
[03:50] <crimsun> cedric: no
[03:50] <sampan> cedric, no, but installing fluxbox via apt-get is easy
[03:50] <anavim> hm... so how do I make ~/.fluxbox/startup work on ubuntu?
[03:50] <shadeofgrey> fangorious:  YES
[03:51] <cedric> if i make a server install than i install fluxbox will this work
[03:51] <shadeofgrey> cedric:  only one way to find out, amigo...
[03:51] <fangorious> shadeofgrey: do you have to do anything special to get changes you make to actually be applied?
[03:51] <bob832> hey, this probably is a newbie question but firestarter is showing a bunch of blocked connections on ports 137/138 to samba - is this normal?
[03:51] <SEJeff> =)
[03:51] <cedric> lets try this then
[03:51] <mustard5> bob832, pretty normal on mine
[03:51] <shadeofgrey> SEJeff:  you wouldnt hit a disableed guy would you?
[03:51] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: Only you, only you
[03:52] <anavim> if he did, you really would be disableed  :)
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> fangorious:  no.
[03:52] <maikeru> brb
[03:52] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: That is sarcasm btw
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> anavim:  im totyally wheelchair bound dude....  i AM really disabled
[03:52] <fangorious> shadeofgrey: did you uninstall any packages when you installed it?
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> fangorious:  No
[03:52] <bob832> ok, thanks mustard5, bit jumpy about secutiry since i lost my internet connection today at my college for "spamming"
[03:53] <fangorious> shadeofgrey: laptop?
[03:53] <shadeofgrey> fangorious:  Hell no!
[03:53] <mustard5> bob832, your machine spamming others?
[03:53] <P8ntKid> Can anybody link me to a good guide on getting w32codecs to work, and, how to get them to work with firefox?
[03:53] <SEJeff> anavim: the memories... http://www.insecure.org/stf/smashstack.txt
[03:53] <anavim> shadeofgrey, sorry, I was just making a stupid joke about the word disableed
[03:53] <shadeofgrey> wow
[03:53] <anavim> shadeofgrey, as opposed to the word disabled
[03:53] <bpuccio> correct me if I'm wrong, but editing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and adding an Allow From 192.168.1.12 for <Location /> should let me connect to the cups server box and I should be able to get something when I try to telnet in on port 631, right?
[03:53] <shadeofgrey> its amazing how much faster firefox is
[03:53] <bob832> mustard5:  thats what the university's cisco system said
[03:54] <bob832> the tech guy said my comp was hacked
[03:54] <mustard5> bob832, your linux box?
[03:54] <bob832> mustard5: yep
[03:54] <mustard5> bob832, do you let other people use it?
[03:54] <kraehe> moin
[03:54] <tj_> anyone know how to redetect hardware , i got a new wireless card
[03:54] <bob832> mustard5: no, i am the only user
[03:55] <kraehe> any idea how to accellate 3d on ubuntu breezy amd64 with a radeon 9250 ?
[03:55] <mustard5> bob832, hmmm seems strange...you using a strong password?
[03:55] <kraehe> libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed
[03:55] <bob832> the funny thing is he showed me the firestarter log and it showed an ip address that wa port scanning my system put upon my own investigation, the ip address was from ShieldsUp
[03:56] <mustard5> bob832, so you were testing your security on sheildsup?
[03:56] <wolverian> bob832, haha. nice tech guy.
[03:56] <mustard5> bob832, often the ends up scanning the proxy you connect through I believe and not your machine
[03:56] <bob832> i think sunday afternoon and i lost the internet access monday afternoon
[03:56] <mwe> yeah
[03:56] <bob832> *i was scanning it sunday afternoon . .
[03:56] <wolverian> bob832, complained yet? :)
[03:57] <mwe> actually I think it always scans the gateway
[03:57] <safrican> this is awesome, i already got 3.5 on my box.:D
[03:57] <bob832> mustard5: oh, thats probably what happened then - and they by doing that, i triggered the cisco system to lock me out
[03:57] <safrican> thansk for the help all
[03:58] <mustard5> bob832, I was testing on sheildsup and wondered why my ports weren't showing as hidden and then it was explained to me that it was my ISP's ports that were not sheilded, so the scan report was erroneous
[03:58] <godzirra> Howdy guys.
[03:58] <bob832> wolverian - i was upset at first, when i first called, they blamed me for using P2P software
[03:58] <godzirra> Anyone know why my samba will let me see the share, and the directories, but none of the files in it?
[03:58] <wolverian> bob832, they're jumping to conclusions. I understand they're eager to protect their system but there's nothing to prove that by the information you've told us.
[03:59] <mcadory> bob832:  BoFH lives!! and he's your admin.
[03:59] <mustard5> bob832, you may be the victim of an over-zealous administrator :)
[03:59] <wolverian> bob832, just explain the situation to them: that you were using shieldsup to test your own connection and wasn't aware that it could be testing some other computer instead.
[03:59] <bob832> thats what i thought - when they said that, i was thinking "um, no, i have no p2p on my system, neither linux nor windows"
[04:00] <bob832> i probably will mention it to him about it
[04:00] <mustard5> bob832, yeah..I doubt your box got hacked :)
[04:00] <mustard5> bob832, not unless someone had physical access to it
[04:01] <bob832> but when i went to see him (had to take the comp it) and he was telling me my firewall wasn't protecting my system which scared me
[04:01] <bob832> said it was starting up but wasn't doing anything
[04:01] <mustard5> bob832, do you run any services on the box? like ssh? or web server or ftp server?
[04:02] <bob832> i did have ssh running but he turned it off
[04:02] <godzirra> Anyone know about my samba problem?
[04:02] <sampan> firestarter doesn't have to stay running to work
[04:02] <snoopy_> godzirra: sorry, no idea
[04:02] <godzirra> ugh
[04:02] <godzirra> nevermind
[04:02] <mcadory> bob832: nmap your box from another host and see what ports are open.
[04:02] <godzirra> I figured it out :)
[04:02] <sampan> it writes iptables at boot or connect and then exits
[04:02] <cafuego> it emulates windows filesharing, so if it's slow and/or not working, you get what you paid for ;-)
[04:02] <bob832> was trying to set it up for remote access but never got to finish because of the "restriced access"
[04:03] <SEJeff> bob832: The gui for firestarter is just a frontend. Firestarter installs a service that starts when your system boots to load the correct firewall rules.
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego: no it doesnt. it doesnt 'emulate'
[04:03] <mustard5> godzirra, well done :)
[04:04] <bob832> mcadory:  whats nmap and how do i use it?
[04:04] <mcadory> bob832: sudo iptables -L will show what rules are running.
[04:04] <SEJeff> cafuego: Actually, it does a better job than windows. If you *really* want, I can find benchmarks proving samba3 performs faster than windows at filesharing
[04:04] <mcadory> bobo832: www.insecure.org
[04:05] <cafuego> SEJeff: Yeah, I know. But then, I use NFS.
[04:05] <SEJeff> cafuego: To each his own... I use samba for everything. Even on Unix servers
[04:06] <csb> where is WINE installed? i just installed it, but can't find an icon anywhere
[04:06] <HrdwrBoB> there is no icon
[04:07] <csb> command line then?
[04:07] <mustard5> csb in your home directory in the .wine directory
[04:07] <mustard5> csb, its a hidden directory
[04:07] <SEJeff> anavim: ubuntu has a ppc port XD
[04:07] <csb> mustard5: i looked, it doesn't seem to be there
[04:07] <mustard5> csb, turn on hidden files
[04:07] <mcadory> csb: ls -a
[04:07] <csb> did that
[04:07] <csb> it's not there
[04:08] <csb> wierd. let me check the package manager
[04:08] <mustard5> csb, how did you install?
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> csb: yes 'wine'
[04:08] <anavim> SEJeff, yeah, I used it for almost a year
[04:08] <csb> synaptic, with the custom repositry at winehq
[04:08] <mustard5> csb, k..well it should be where I said
[04:08] <SEJeff> csb: Type winecfg
[04:09] <csb> both "wine" and "winetools" have green squares
[04:09] <tj_> is there anyway to run hardware detection after installing new wireless card
[04:09] <SEJeff> csb: and dpkg -L wine | grep bin
[04:09] <mustard5> csb, yeah type wineconfig in command line
[04:09] <navarone> csb>right click adn look at properties and Installed files...will give path to files
[04:09] <csb> thanks that seems to have done it!
[04:09] <csb> now i have a .wine
[04:09] <SEJeff> csb: That will tell you where all of the wine binaries are. No, winecfg, not wineconfig
[04:09] <LjL> mustard5: i think that's winecfg
[04:09] <mustard5> doh
[04:09] <mustard5> hehe
[04:10] <csb> ok cool.
[04:10] <csb> thanks.
[04:10] <SEJeff> np
[04:10] <csb> is wine easy to use? i basically want to get StudioMX working
[04:10] <mustard5> csb, depends on the program
[04:10] <bimberi> winecfg comes with wine, wineconfig with winetools (iirc)
[04:11] <mustard5> csb, winetools is good for setting up wine
[04:11] <mustard5> csb, seen some posts on the forum today about people having trouble with wine
[04:11] <csb> so i should use winetools? even with wine .9x?
[04:11] <navarone> best wine tool is a corkscrew imo...lol
[04:11] <egon_spengler> csb: The easiest I have seen is sidenet wine setup
[04:12] <bob832> hey this nmap, being it scans ports, will i run into the same problem of triggering cisco to "block" me from the internet?
[04:12] <mustard5> bob832, I wouldnt want to test it :)
[04:12] <bimberi> csb: http://frankscorner.org/ is worth a look
[04:13] <mtupper> csb: wine is crap and not worth the hassle (humble opinion from relative newbie). read this, after messing around with wine for a while, I couldnt agree more with the recommendation from this page: http://www.uselinuxathome.com/ENapps.htm
[04:13] <mustard5> bob832, explain what you found about sheildsup before setting off any more alarms with the admins
[04:13] <mustard5> bob832, I strongly doubt you've been hacked
[04:14] <bob832> mustard5:  you mean the results i got on sunday?
[04:14] <mtupper> csb: especially with regards to MX Studio, which is also why I investigated wine.
[04:14] <mustard5> bob832, yeah
[04:14] <mustard5> bob832, I reckon that is what the issue was...
[04:14] <bob832> i remember it said failed
[04:14] <sprocket87> can someone help me figure out why sound isn't working on my fresh install?
[04:14] <mustard5> bob832, sheildsup was probably port scanning them on not your machine
[04:14] <bob832> something with port 1 or 2
[04:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell sprocket87 about sound
[04:14] <mcadory> bob832: possibly. i wouldn't scan any random ip's.  just yours.  they most likely aren't monitoring port scanning on your box.
[04:14] <sprocket87> it worked briefly (first boot), but now it's silent
[04:16] <sprocket87> thx for the heads up bimb, i'll check it out
[04:16] <mac666er> hello, I have an acx100 wireless card and it does not work :-(
[04:16] <mac666er> I tried several tutorials
[04:16] <nowisn> hello all I"m a new user of linux and I just installed kubuntu on my laptop and I configured the settings for dialup but its not locating my modem and I do not know what to do next, any suggestions?
[04:16] <mac666er> including Craig's guide
[04:16] <mobus> I unroll tar.gz files all the time, but I can't find the program for bz2 files.  help me please
[04:16] <mustard5> nowisn, what type of modem?
[04:17] <bimberi> np spro :)
[04:17] <mustard5> mobus, bunzip ?
[04:17] <nowisn> ah not sure its a eurocom lappy 3120
[04:17] <ajmitch__> hi Amaranth
[04:17] <mobus> thanks
[04:17] <nowisn> i can check
[04:17] <Amaranth> hey ajmitch
[04:17] <mtupper> nowisn: welcome, you're gonna love it, I'm only about a month in and fully addicted, but being so new, cant help you.
[04:17] <mtupper> haha
[04:18] <mustard5> nowisn, I'm curious to know wether it is a controller-less modem or winmodem
[04:18] <babag> so i've actually got ubuntu running now.
[04:18] <babag> no mouse though.
[04:18] <babag> how do i get the mouse?
[04:18] <mustard5> babag, what type of mouse?
[04:18] <nowisn> no prob nice to meet you all and I hope I will be here for awhile and can't wait till ei explore ubuntu more and learn about linux
[04:19] <mustard5> nowisn, your welcome :)
[04:19] <babag> logitech 3 button on serial port
[04:19] <mustard5> babag, hmmm..sounds pretty standard
[04:19] <babag> yeah.
[04:19] <DRAGON_Ultra> usb mouse?
[04:19] <mac666er> hello, need help with a wireless card :-(
[04:19] <babag> tried hardware database but had problem
[04:19] <mustard5> babag, you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:20] <snoopy_> mac666er: did you try ndiswrapper?
[04:20] <mustard5> babag, choose defaults for whatever you don't know the answer to
[04:20] <navarone> babag> you need to edit xorg.conf probably for the device to work. I had to change protocol and get rid of some options like x z axis or something. Ubuntu thought my mouse was ps/2
[04:20] <mac666er> snoopy, ndiswrapper is running with the windows driver right now, but it doesn't work :-(
[04:20] <babag> when i tried the database i got to the mouse and wanted to cursor down to the 'no' box for 'no it's not working'
[04:20] <sprocket87> anyone know the cmd to restart sound server?
[04:20] <snoopy_> what kind of encryption on the router?
[04:21] <kraehe> re
[04:21] <navarone> babag> are you in ubuntu now?
[04:21] <mac666er> output from ndiswrapper -l //Installed ndis drivers:
[04:21] <mac666er> lstinds driver present, hardware present
[04:21] <babag> tabbing would only get me between the help, cancel and continue buttons, though.
[04:21] <mac666er> no encryption on router
[04:21] <mtupper> hey y'all, i gone and got myself in a full-on rookie mess.  first I installed asterisk 1.2 by downloading from SF.net and doing a make install...  everything good.  then I went and got AMP (ast mgmt portal) and followed its long and arduous series of installs, patches, add-ons....... and asterisk 1.0.9...  oops (all through compiling / make install).  So now that I have an older version on top of the newer version, asterisk is wigging out a 
[04:21] <babag> yes in ubuntu now
[04:22] <navarone> babag...are you comfortable editting text file in ubuntu?
[04:22] <kraehe> ... but glxgears from ubuntu is still extremly slow ... 1000 times slower than glxgears from debian-pure64
[04:22] <mtupper> how the heck do I 'uninstall' my way out of this mess?
[04:22] <babag> never tried it. ok in mandriva.
[04:22] <kraehe> ... and glxgears does'nt show any FPS anymore
[04:22] <oxez> glxgears -printfps
[04:23] <mustard5> mtupper,  not easily I would think...
[04:23] <babag> this is fresh test install so i'm ok with wiping it and redoing if need be.
[04:23] <babag> might as well mess with stuff.
[04:23] <mustard5> mtupper, you would have to work out what it installed and where...
[04:23] <kraehe> *hm* just looking slower because in sync with dvi output
[04:23] <mustard5> mtupper, a tip for the future is to use 'checkinstall' when you get to the 'make install' part
[04:23] <kraehe> 1362.406 FPS
[04:23] <navarone> babag> I am gonna paste something in pastebin...it is my mouse section for xorg.conf...Go to site and copy it and come backand I will walk you thru editing file
[04:24] <navarone> brb
[04:25] <babag> ok.
[04:25] <babag> navigating is pretty awkward for me without mouse.
[04:25] <babag> how do i shift focus between windows?
[04:25] <mustard5> babag, alt + tab ?
[04:25] <mtupper> mustard5, haha, i imagined i was in too deep, but I guess thats how one learns not to do that again, or at least how to do it better the next time.  so: the checkinstall i imagine will give you a heads up.  how does that compare to the ./configure, which I was always doing before the make
[04:26] <kraehe> can ubuntu users expect a fresh amd64 xorg soon ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378 ... or does anyone need to downgrade (and read the fucking web) before 3d works
[04:26] <nowisn> its a MDC or a winmodem v90 standard dialup modem
[04:26] <navarone> babag> here is page...go there and copy the text there and then come back   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5207
[04:26] <babag> hey thanks. that's gonna help.
[04:27] <navarone> babg> I think ctrl-tab or alt-tab lets you switch windows
[04:27] <mustard5> mtupper, well that part remains the same....checkinstall is used instead of make install...or in other words when you get to the make install part you replace that part with checkinstall...it will then show up as a 'package' in synaptic and you can use that to uninstall
[04:28] <mustard5> mtupper, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:28] <mtupper> mustard5, DAMN!!!  thats exactly what i needed...
[04:28] <navarone> hmmm...how is he going to copy text without mouse...?
[04:28] <mustard5> mtupper, yeah.. :)
[04:28] <mtupper> mustard5, money money money...   jackpot.
[04:29] <mtupper> mustard5, thanks.
[04:29] <bob832> so is the consensus that i was not actually hacked but triggered the cisco system to flag me b/c of the sheildsup?
[04:29] <mustard5> mtupper, np..I pick this stuff up hanging out in here...
[04:29] <navarone> mustard> it's OS osmosis...<s>
[04:29] <Tallen> how do I get info on a installed package, like the version of the package?
[04:30] <babag> ok, i see the paste bin. now what?
[04:30] <navarone> Babg> can you copy without mouse?
[04:30] <babag> probably not
[04:30] <mustard5> navarone, I'm thinking there must be a keyboard option
[04:30] <navarone> lol
[04:30] <navarone> I dunno how to copy with out mouse
[04:31] <mtupper> ctrl-c dude, thats easy!
[04:31] <bob832> so would it be safe for me to re-enable ssh access?
[04:31] <babag> this goes into xorg.conf?
[04:31] <mustard5> navarone, maybe he should try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first
[04:31] <SEJeff> Tallen, dpkg -l packagename
[04:31] <navarone> mustard i think he said he tried that
[04:31] <mustard5> navarone, ok
[04:32] <navarone> babg> I will tell you what to put in and you type...
[04:32] <babag> ok
[04:32] <babag> where is xorg.conf?
[04:32] <navarone> babg...you need to type this command in terminal "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:33] <navarone> babg> it will ask for password cos you are editting and saving a system file
[04:33] <navarone> babg> and minus quote marks...<s>
[04:33] <mustard5> babag, well ctrl + shift + arrow keys works for selecting :)
[04:33] <navarone> babg> read mustard...and try c and p first
[04:34] <babag> ok
[04:34] <mustard5> babag, ctrl + c is copy
[04:34] <mustard5> babag, ctrl + v is paste
[04:34] <navarone> babg you acn still use above command anyway to open file
[04:35] <babag> gonna have trouble. alt tab seems to only work between 2 windows here.
[04:35] <mustard5> babag, one second..I'll look around for another one
[04:35] <babag> gonna have at least 3 open - xchat, mozilla, console
[04:36] <jerry> Anyone happen to know where I can get 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133 drivers for ubuntu?
[04:36] <mustard5> babag. alt + esc
[04:36] <babag> ?
[04:36] <navarone> ^5 mustard
[04:36] <mustard5> babag, moves between windows immediately (so it says)
[04:37] <mustard5> babag, alt + esc
[04:37] <navarone> yeah it works
[04:37] <mustard5> babag, works on mine anyway
[04:37] <babag> ok got that
[04:37] <kevin_> Hi.  Could I get some assistance configuring DVD playback?
[04:38] <mustard5> kevin_, you read the wiki guide?
[04:38] <kevin_> Nope.  But just about every forum I could google.
[04:38] <nowisn> its a 56 k v90 MDC voice/fax modem, internal in my eurocom 3420 laptop, how do i chec if this linux is compatible?
[04:38] <mustard5> kevin_, k  ..on second
[04:39] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kevin_ about dvd
[04:39] <babag> got xorg.conf up
[04:39] <jerry> Mustard where's the wiki guide maybe my 3d video answer is there.
[04:39] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kevin about libdvdcss2
[04:39] <mustard5> jerry, one second..
[04:39] <navarone> babag> when you get it copied go tot erminal and use sudo gedit command and go to place in file just below keyboard section and paste the piece in over the current mouse section
[04:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kevin about restricted
[04:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kevin_ about libdvdcss2
[04:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kevin_ about restricted
[04:40] <mustard5> you get those kevin_ ?
[04:40] <navarone> babag> then save and press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x server
[04:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell jerry about restricted
[04:41] <drumline> tell drumline about restricted
[04:41] <drumline> heh
[04:41] <mustard5> jerry, I'm thinking that won't help
[04:41] <drumline> ubotu: tell drumline about restricted
[04:41] <drumline> ubotu: tell drumline about libdvddcss2
[04:41] <slashx1896> Hey all
[04:41] <navarone> he should be abck...lol
[04:42] <navarone> God my typing is terrribel
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[04:42] <drumline> ubotu: tell drumline about libdvdcss2
[04:42] <slashx1896> im having a problem...., at random tiems when i click on a link mozilla firefox just closes down and i lose my pages...
[04:43] <slashx1896> im at an important webpage. and i click on a link on it, and then it just closes
[04:43] <navarone> hi dabaR
[04:43] <dabaR> hi dabaR!
[04:43] <slashx1896> its happend to me 5 times in 10 minutes :(
[04:43] <slashx1896> hey dabaR
[04:43] <n0dl> slashx1896,  that is a common problem... most pages are written for internet explorer
[04:43] <n0dl> slashx1896,  therefore mozilla is subject to crash now and then
[04:43] <Davey> turn off JS :)
[04:43] <dabaR> n0dl: sorry, what pages, I did not catch that.
[04:44] <slashx1896> n0dl: ya but... that never happend to me when i was running firefox on windows xp
[04:44] <n0dl> slashx1896,  you may want to try getting the newer version of mozilla versus the one they give you in ubuntu
[04:44] <Toma-> slashx1896: open it with lynx ;)
[04:44] <n0dl> slashx1896,  i suggest that you dont use the mozilla that came with ubuntu. Apt tends to break things
[04:45] <bimberi> n0dl: what on earth are you talking about?
[04:45] <navarone> welcome babag
[04:45] <babag> hey! i got mouse!
[04:45] <navarone> woot
[04:45] <slashx1896> n0dl: where should i go to get a updated one?
[04:45] <n0dl> to the official website
[04:45] <babag> thanks so much.
[04:45] <Toma-> oh my.
[04:45] <slashx1896> o ok
[04:45] <navarone> babag> I had same problem when I rebooted first time
[04:45] <n0dl> theres a thread on how to symlink it afterward
[04:46] <dabaR> n0dl: do you reply often at ubuntuforums.org?
[04:46] <n0dl> dabaR, no
[04:46] <mtupper> so, i installed a ton of crap 'accidently' using make install (i know now, ex-post, to run checkinstall) and I want to know if there is a way to 'uninstall' this stuff???  anybody?
[04:47] <maikeru> bbiab, for real, have to get some work done
[04:47] <babag> kind of rough for a noob both to *nix and ubuntu.
[04:47] <dabaR> make uninstall. mtupper be specific on what you installed.
[04:47] <navarone> babag> you did fine tho
[04:47] <Toma-> mtupper: what were u installing with make?
[04:47] <babag> must say, ubuntu looks very nice.
[04:47] <kevin_> Could someone tell me how to install libdvdcss2?
[04:47] <navarone> babag> hurts my eyes when I go back to windows for halo...lol
[04:47] <Toma-> !libdvdcss2
[04:47] <ubotu> from memory, libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[04:48] <babag> thanks again. time to play!
[04:48] <mtupper> dabaR, Toma-, first I installed asterisk 1.2 by downloading from SF.net and doing a make install... everything good. then I went and got AMP (ast mgmt portal) and followed its long and arduous series of installs, patches, add-ons....... and asterisk 1.0.9... oops (all through compiling / make install). So now that I have an older version on top of the newer version, asterisk is wigging out a little (well wont start actually).
[04:48] <navarone> babag> good luck...happy ummm...ubuntu-ing
[04:48] <reckless> Hello from a newbie. Is there any hope for a PCMCIA Buffalo G54 wireless card running on Breezy Badger (PPC, so NDISwrapper is impossible AFAIK)???????
[04:48] <babag> thanks.
[04:48] <crsd> !wine x86_64
[04:48] <ubotu> crsd: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:49] <tman_ubuntu> Can someone help.  I can see my linux share from Windows, but not from other Linux box.  I have a samba share on Linux.
[04:49] <dabaR> crsd: does not exist as a package for 64 bit ubuntu.
[04:49] <alekz> wich package should i install to set up a ftp server ?
[04:49] <dabaR> alekz: use sftp. vsftpd
[04:49] <crsd> dabaR: ic, thanks for info
[04:50] <alekz> dabaR, wich is better and wich are the differences ?
[04:50] <lambert> is it possible to find if a module is compiled into the kernel base or if it's a lkm
[04:50] <slashx1896> i dowloaded it and syanptic isnt finding the one ij ust downloaded
[04:51] <slashx1896> Synaptic*
[04:51] <SEJeff> lambert: lsmod | grep modulename
[04:51] <dabaR> alekz: vsftpd is a package, sftp is a protocol. As opposed to ftp, sftp encrypts passwords when sending them from client to server, and same for the data. sftp is usually ftp through ssh.
[04:51] <SEJeff> lambert: If it is compiled into the kernel, it's not called a module ;-)
[04:51] <lambert> SEjeff: that shows if one is loaded
[04:51] <Toma-> mtupper: for future reference, try not to resort to source and make/make install process. there are ways to make the deb system handle installing compiled programs
[04:52] <SEJeff> lambert: yes
[04:52] <SEJeff> lambert: go to /usr/lib/`uname-r`/modules
[04:52] <lambert> seJeff: what is it called then
[04:52] <kevin_> Idon't see how this helps me understand how to intall !libdvdcss2... No binary deb available.  Will try to build and install it.
[04:52] <kevin_> You need to have debhelper, dpkg-dev and fakeroot installed.
[04:52] <kevin_> If not, interrupt now, install them and rerun this script.
[04:52] <kevin_> This is higly experimental, look out for what happens below.
[04:52] <kevin_> If you want to stop, interrupt now (control-c), else press
[04:52] <kevin_> return to proceed
[04:52] <SEJeff> lambert: Integrated into the kernel
[04:52] <tman_ubuntu> Does Ubuntu come with NFS enabled by default.  So if I export a directory will that be seen by other Linux boxes?
[04:52] <alekz> dabaR, thank you so much
[04:52] <dabaR> kevin_: to paste more than one line, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.
[04:53] <bimberi> tman_ubuntu: no, you have to install nfs
[04:53] <kevin_> That's not helping either
[04:53] <mtupper> Toma-, yeah, I am figuring that out...  namely I think had I known about checkinstall last night, I'd be in the clear.
[04:53] <slashx1896> n0dl: how come synaptic isnt finding firefox 1.5 that i just downloaded?
[04:53] <dabaR> kevin_: it is supposed to helop you by telling you to install those 3 packages.
[04:53] <lambert> sejeff: if you have an integrated module, can it be unloaded? or blacklisted?
[04:53] <pc22> how do i access a second harddisk?
[04:53] <kevin_> apt-get?
[04:53] <SEJeff> lambert: I told you wrong, the directory is /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[04:53] <tman_ubuntu> bimberi:  What about samba client?
[04:53] <SEJeff> lambert: no
[04:53] <n0dl> slashx1896,  its because it is not an official package
[04:53] <Toma-> kevin_: i think im just repeating the script here, but you need to install the packages debhelper, dpkg-dev and fakeroot to get the libdvdcss package...
[04:53] <germancito> Hello
[04:53] <slashx1896> o
[04:53] <bimberi> tman_ubuntu: yes it has a samba _client_
[04:53] <dabaR> pc22: you mount it. "man mount" will tell you details in a terminal. What is on the hard disk? windows?
[04:54] <SEJeff> lambert: You aren't understanding what I am saying.
[04:54] <kevin_> by using apt-get command?
[04:54] <bimberi> tman_ubuntu: Places -> Connect to Server...
[04:54] <Toma-> kevin_: then, repeating again, run the script again?
[04:54] <germancito> does anyone here know about R statistics program?
[04:54] <SEJeff> lambert: If it is part of the kernel and you don't like it, recompile the kernel. There aren't any other options, why are you asking?
[04:54] <slashx1896> n0dl: so how do i install?
[04:54] <pc22> ext3
[04:54] <Toma-> kevin_: thats the one.
[04:54] <bimberi> tman_ubuntu: System -> Administration -> Shared Folders (will offer to install nfs if you're running breezy)
[04:54] <germancito> i'ts also called Gnu S
[04:54] <dabaR> pc22: then just read the manual for mount. if you need more help,. we are here.
[04:54] <kevin_> thank you.  Just starting with Linux.  Need to keep it simple for me for awhile
[04:54] <Toma-> slashx1896: before yopu kill your system, whats the page youre trying to view?
[04:55] <alekz> dabaR, if i installed vsftpd how can i edit the allowed host that can connect to my ftp server?
[04:55] <dabaR> Toma-: nice.
[04:55] <Toma-> kevin_: ahhh, no problem ;)
[04:55] <tman_ubuntu> bimberi:  I can't see a samba share on one Linux box from another Linux box, but can from a windows box.  What gives?
[04:55] <slashx1896> Toma-, im trying to install the new firefox off of mozilla.com
[04:55] <Toma-> slashx1896: but why?
[04:55] <slashx1896> Toma-, the one im using now is crashing alot
[04:55] <dabaR> alekz: likely edit the configuration file. /etc/vsftpd.conf /etc is where all your config files go./
[04:55] <Toma-> slashx1896: what pages does it crash on?
[04:56] <slashx1896> Toma-, all different pages
[04:56] <Toma-> whats one for example?
[04:56] <bimberi> tman_ubuntu: not sure sorry :| - i've found visibility of shares in Nautilus' Network Servers window a bit dodgy too
[04:56] <SEJeff> slashx1896: things will break
[04:56] <alekz> dabaR, im editing it but i dont see a line to define that
[04:56] <dabaR> is it just html pages, movie pages, flash pages, jsps...
[04:56] <mrkoje> hey
[04:56] <slashx1896> Toma-, always different one for example is www.myspace.com
[04:56] <lambert> sejeff: if I go into the directory you pointed, I see the madwifi driver which I know is alkm module. so it's possible I'm not completely understanding
[04:57] <SEJeff> lambert: yes, madwifi is normally built as a module
[04:57] <SEJeff> lambert: sudo rmmod madwifi
[04:57] <builder> how do I get vim to use all the colors in a colorscheme?
[04:57] <mtupper> ok, so I have managed to have various people tell me I shouldn't do anymore make installs, that much I knew already.  So how do I 'make uninstall' ?  Is that the actual command?  from where do I run it, in the directory where the app is or from the directory where I ran make install???
[04:57] <builder> it doesn't seem to want to
[04:57] <Toma-> slashx1896: have you tried tunring javascript off then loading the page again?
[04:58] <slashx1896> Toma-, its never happend to me til today
[04:58] <SEJeff> lambert: If you want madwifi to never be loaded, run this command:
[04:58] <lambert> sejeff: what I'm trying to understand is how to find if it is a module or integrated into the kernel(not madwifi but any driver)
[04:58] <Toma-> slashx1896: has anything been updated/changed over night?
[04:58] <SEJeff> lambert: well look in that directory I showed you
[04:58] <bimberi> mtupper: the latter, but the developer may not have necessarily provided an uninstall
[04:58] <bob832> well, tomorrow i am heading home, so, i'll try running this nmap and see what happens but i think right now, i am off to bed
[04:58] <SEJeff> lambert: use the find command in /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[04:58] <dabaR> heh, that was unfortunate. neither do I alekz.
[04:58] <bob832> thanks to everyone for the informative comments
[04:58] <lambert> sejeff: there
[04:58] <slashx1896> Toma-, no, but it will let me on it sometimes and sometiems it wont
[04:58] <dabaR> alekz: It may be needed to edit the sshd configuration, not sure.
[04:59] <mrkoje> hmm
[04:59] <SEJeff> lambert: example: find . -name '*wifi*' from that directory
[04:59] <bimberi> mtupper: oh yes, and it's usually "make uninstall" :)
[04:59] <alekz> dabaR, thank you so much :)
[04:59] <stevenj> Why does'nt anyone know the answer to this??? How do I resolve in breezy these xsession errors "** (gnome-session:8178): WARNING **: Host name lookup failure on localhost." or "_IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp"  ???????/
[04:59] <Toma-> slashx1896: changing firefox version wont do jack. have you tried mv'ing your .firefox and .mozilla directory?
[04:59] <slashx1896> Toma-, well i got some plugin packages for totem.. and i got rythembox working... and thats it,
[04:59] <lambert> sejeff: see that
[04:59] <mtupper> bimberi, so if they dont provide an uninstall, what?  I am just USC?
[04:59] <SEJeff> slashx1896: firefox 1.5 will break some things
[04:59] <stevenj> Is this a bug in BReezy??
[04:59] <slashx1896> Toma-, ok
[04:59] <dabaR> alekz: maybe the firewall, even...
[04:59] <bur[n] er> where can I submit a package for backports?
[04:59] <slashx1896> *SEJeff, ok
[05:00] <dabaR> stevenj: what program is that in?
[05:00] <alekz> dabaR, i'll edit rules on firestarter :)
[05:00] <bimberi> mtupper: i don't know another way :| - others might
[05:00] <slashx1896> if it happens again il come back, but i think its fine now
[05:00] <stevenj> dabaR, it appears in my .xsession on a "new breezy" install right after I log in
[05:01] <SEJeff> slashx1896: Please read this before you break some things: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[05:01] <mtupper> bimberi, another ? :  is it important to uninstall in any particular order (reverse order) from how I installed if I installed multiple packages...?
[05:01] <dabaR> alekz: also, openssh has a good manual online, and "man hosts_access" seems what you can look into. SO say some people that know more than me...
[05:01] <dabaR> stevenj: so...you can not log in?
[05:01] <slashx1896> ok
[05:01] <stevenj> dabaR, if I can msg you, I will give you the entire xsession
[05:02] <dabaR> !paste
[05:02] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:02] <stevenj> dabaR, yes I can log in, but I just want to know why....and is everyone else getting this
[05:02] <germancito> !paste
[05:02] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:02] <SEJeff> stevenj: Try ugrading everything
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some issues with DOSemu.  It says, "Sorry, there is no operating system.  Please try to install FreeDOS.."  What gives?  I want to run a simple DOS app a friend sent me.
[05:03] <stevenj> SEJeff, ?  I install all avail updates
[05:03] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: if youre after simple emulation, try dosbox
[05:03] <bimberi> mtupper: that would be a good idea, although usually there shouldn't be any overlap (although iirc you're dealing with two versions of Asterisk)
[05:03] <dabaR> stevenj: just to make clear, this causes you no problem?
[05:03] <phiqtion> nalioth: how can i enable multiverse and universe?
[05:04] <slashx1896> ugh ubuntu wotn read my ipod... i can acess the harddrive but gtkpod wont recognize it.. :(
[05:04] <mtupper> bimberi, k thx.  i shall give it a go.
[05:04] <dabaR> phiqtion: visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html it is shown there.
[05:04] <stevenj> dabaR, I am guess is not...but how can I be sure..I am new to linux...and I just want to know what errors mean
[05:04] <bimberi> mtupper: good luck :)
[05:04] <phiqtion> dabar: thank you
[05:04] <dabaR> phiqtion: let me know whether you were able to figure it out with that(its my assignment).
[05:04] <SEJeff> slashx1896: Try rhythmbox. rhythmbox reads ipods nicely in breezy
[05:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phiqtion about repos
[05:04] <phiqtion> dabar: will do
[05:04] <phiqtion> nalioth: thanks bro
[05:05] <stevenj> dabaR, I do not use BP and I only use default repos for apps...
[05:05] <slashx1896> SEjeff, i can put songs on my ipod through rhythmbox?
[05:05] <csb> ok so i installed WINE and StudioMX. are there icons for things? or is it all started via the command line?
[05:05] <devint> Firefox 1.5 wont be out till Dapper is out? Is that what the topic is saying?
[05:05] <dabaR> stevenj: it means what it says. dunno what it would mean to the system. If it causes nno problems, likely there is a logical explanation for it.
[05:05] <mrkoje> csb
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Okay, but I need some help figuring that out too.
[05:05] <mtupper> can someone tell me how to 'disable' kde wallet so I dont have to see it everytime I boot up?   its getting under my skin.
[05:05] <SEJeff> slashx1896: No, but I got gtkpod to work perfectly with my nano and breezy
[05:05] <mrkoje> csb you can open a windows explorer look alike shell using this command: winefile
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: I get a command line like I'm used to seeing in DOS, but it isn't seeing the linux file system like I would expect.
[05:06] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: install it, open it up, in the emu, type "mount c /home/yourname" and then cd into c:
[05:06] <mrkoje> csb: from there you can look into your so called "c" drive and locate your apps
[05:06] <mtupper> csb: did you read this: http://www.uselinuxathome.com/ENapps.htm ???
[05:06] <slashx1896> SEJeff, well i can acess my ipods harddrive, but... when i try to add sogns to my ipod through gtkpod it tells me to plug my ipod in, i already brought it in and they said my ipod and cord are fine...
[05:06] <stevenj> dabaR, I guess my question then is...do the majority of breezy users (that will check) can multiple instances of _IceTrans.....bla bla in the their ~/.xsession-errors????
[05:07] <slashx1896> SEJeff: and im 100% its plugged in and in diskmode
[05:07] <phiqtion> dabar: i need to enable a few things like mp3, video, software. is there a wiki which tells me how-to?
[05:07] <Toma-> mtupper: its the kcontrol under kde resources or something
[05:07] <mrkoje> csb normally you can open your programs with this command:  wine C:\\"Program Files"\\programfolder\\program.exe
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: That's looking better!
[05:07] <Toma-> kewl
[05:07] <dabaR> stevenj: I dont answer polls, maybe someone else will.
[05:07] <navarone> dabaR> phiqtion wanted to enable multiverse and universe...he would have to enable "show disabled repos" in the settings part of the repo dialog
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: (Duh!  Just because my linux distro automatically mounted everything...)
[05:08] <Toma-> hehe
[05:08] <navarone> dabR> that is if they were not enabled
[05:08] <csb> yes i've figured it out...WOW THIS IS COOL
[05:08] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: theres a way to make dosbox mount a part of your drive to c or d: at startup.... cant remember how
[05:08] <Toma-> try the man dosbox command
[05:08] <dabaR> stevenj: yes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:08] <Khaaaaan> Man so I am running Ubuntu solo now...
[05:08] <dabaR> stevenj: not you.
[05:08] <dabaR> phiqtion: you the URL above.
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Some config file somewhere I take it?
[05:09] <csb> is somebody kidding me? or am i actually running studioMX in linux?
[05:09] <Khaaaaan> This 5.1 sound has me scratching my head though.... what the hell are all these cvolume options about??
[05:09] <csb> this is just TOO GREAT
[05:09] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: i suspect /home/tony/.dosbox/autoexec
[05:09] <Toma-> i think.
[05:09] <slashx1896> How come it wont let me change the info of more then 1 song on RyhtmBox
[05:09] <Khaaaaan> studiomx in Linux??? How did you manage that one?
[05:10] <mrkoje> csb: did what I say work?
[05:10] <dabaR> csb: its GNU/Linux, if you are using ubuntu
[05:10] <mrkoje> dabaR: you have to be kidding me.
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Sounds good.  Thanks.
[05:10] <dustin_> what is studiomx?
[05:10] <dabaR> mrkoje: not at all.
[05:10] <Toma-> np
[05:10] <slashx1896> ACtualy it wont let me change the info of anysong by, right clickign and hitting properties
[05:11] <dabaR> its a gnu/linux system, mrkoje, for a fact.
[05:11] <mrkoje> dabaR: I know the difference, but I think it is ridculous
[05:11] <mrkoje> GNU/Linux or Linux
[05:11] <Toma-> slashx1896: probably because the ipod isnt getting mounted in read/write, i suspect.
[05:11] <mtupper> Toma-, great thanks, I found it.  Kcontrol > KDE Components > Service Manager ...  but I cant stop the service and even less take it off of the list
[05:11] <dabaR> mrkoje: /j #ubuntu-offtopic, to discuss if you will.
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: I take it I would have some similar fix if I ever needed to use dosemu?
[05:11] <slashx1896> Toma-, how do i mount my ipod?
[05:12] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: nope. you need to actually install a version of dos on it.
[05:12] <dashrike> does ubuntu/kubuntu have irc stuff built in, or do you need a seperate program?
[05:12] <navarone> slash are the files ona  windows partition or the linux one> If ina  windows partition you may not be able to edit files with different permissions and users info. LInux will recognize those things even froma windows setup
[05:12] <Toma-> slashx1896: no idea.
[05:12] <mrkoje> dashrike: there is a text client built in as well as a graphical client
[05:12] <pawdro> hi, ive just installed breezy, I replaced sorces like in the handbook and i cant install libdivx4linux because ubuntu cant find it
[05:13] <slashx1896> ugh now ihave 2 problems.. 1. ipod... 2.i cant edit song info on RythmBox
[05:13] <dashrike> my pc hates me right now
[05:13] <dashrike> rather amusing
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Really?  All right, so if this is a dual boot system with WinXP on the other part, can I just use something from that?
[05:13] <pawdro> what should i do?
[05:13] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: nope.
[05:13] <dabaR> mrkoje: if you would rather read: http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html. or, remain ignorant.
[05:13] <kevin_> I ran the script for !libdvdcss2.  Everything sems to have installed, but I still get errors from gxine and totem when I try to play a DVD.  Any suggestions, anyone?
[05:13] <mrkoje> dabaR: Why are you trying to insult me.
[05:14] <dabaR> I am sory, that came across wrong.
[05:14] <navarone> kevin> if errors were about other files missing you need to install them
[05:14] <dabaR> mrkoje: that web site is a good read, I guarantee it.
[05:14] <chapium> any tips on getting the network running with ubuntu installed on vmware?
[05:14] <stevenj> If anyone is interested in sheding some light on this -- this is my problem --> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/q4BFF862.html   * So far I have posted on the Ubuntu forums, bug report and various other forums...and no one can tell me anything about how to resolve this..thanks.
[05:14] <mrkoje> dabaR: All I am saying is that I am not going to go running around saying GNU/Linux
[05:14] <mrkoje> dabaR: I will read it.
[05:14] <dabaR> mrkoje: your _problem_:)
[05:15] <mrkoje> dabaR: Enough about being off topic! LOL
[05:15] <dashrike> I see that you can use programs like gaim or xchat for irc inside linux, what else is available?
[05:15] <pixelmonkey> anyone using galeon in breezy?
[05:15] <kevin_> Read error from: Error reading NAV packet.
[05:15] <stevenj> And I guess I am just wondering at this point...am I the only one
[05:15] <Toma-> mtupper: kcontrol, security and privacy, disable kwallet from there
[05:15] <mrkoje> well irris or somthing like that is the command line client built it
[05:15] <dabaR> stevenj: how do I find out for you?
[05:15] <mrkoje> dashrike: I am actually using it right now
[05:15] <pawdro> in which repos i can find libdivx4linux?
[05:16] <dashrike> using what?
[05:16] <pawdro> any suggestions
[05:16] <pawdro> ?
[05:16] <mrkoje> pawdro: You enabled universe?
[05:16] <pawdro> yes
[05:16] <dabaR> stevenj: a good question would have been, run "blah" tell me whether you see line "blah", if you are so willing to learn about this new gnu/linux...
[05:16] <sampan> dashrike  there's konversation (for kde) and irssi (console-- my choice) and bitchx (also console)
[05:16] <mrkoje> pawdro: try  sudo apt-get install libdivx4*
[05:16] <dabaR> !info libdivx4linux
[05:16] <dashrike> heh
[05:16] <dabaR> !+info libdivx4linux
[05:16] <dashrike> I need a port of mirc or something
[05:16] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[05:16] <ubotu> Package 'libdivx4linux' does not exist.
[05:17] <pixelmonkey> dashrike, are you serious?
[05:17] <dashrike> I am a bit partial to that piece of crap because I have spent so much time on it :P
[05:17] <Toma-> dashrike: mirc runs under wine
[05:17] <pawdro> so why its written to install in the handbook?
[05:17] <budluva> lol running mirc under wine
[05:17] <sampan> dashrike  supposedly mirc 6.16 runs with wine -- but the linux apps are really just as good (except for not having a builtin identd server)
[05:17] <dashrike> but wine requires windows :P
[05:17] <dabaR> mrkoje: a search would have been better...
[05:17] <Toma-> dashrike: but i highly dont reccomend it. :)
[05:17] <stevenj> dabaR, well the problem is...that this exist on a "fresh newly installed, log in one time" breezy installation, without running anything. I have indeed tested that.
[05:17] <dashrike> kinda loses the point of running linux then :P
[05:17] <dabaR> budluva: lol indeed.
[05:17] <pixelmonkey> dashrike, x-chat comes closest to mirc, although you'll probably never get anything with an MDI interface like mirc is
[05:17] <Toma-> dashrike: no its doesnt
[05:17] <budluva> xchat works just as fine as mirc
[05:17] <dabaR> stevenj: well, tell me the command to find out, already:)
[05:17] <pixelmonkey> dashrike, wine doesn't require windows at all
[05:18] <dashrike> I know
[05:18] <dashrike> I can't type fast enough :P
[05:18] <dabaR> stevenj: I have a running ubuntu.
[05:18] <dashrike> my PC doesn't run much of anything right now
[05:18] <dabaR> dashrike: write in one line.
[05:18] <crsd> well, in standard full ubuntu install there's no identd server, that can be run from inetd?
[05:18] <dashrike> I haven't been able to install any linux at all, for a variety of reasons
[05:18] <mrkoje> dabaR: my mistake...
[05:18] <dabaR> mrkoje: on what?
[05:19] <mrkoje> apt-get install when it should have been a search
[05:19] <stevenj> dabaR, oh just open your .xsession-errors (located in your home dir) * its hidden too :)
[05:19] <dabaR> find libdivx4 does not even return anything. maybe it is in the description. synaptic is fine for searching. do you use synaptic, pawdro ?
[05:19] <pawdro> dabaR: i use console
[05:19] <pawdro> to apt-get
[05:19] <dabaR> pawdro: not so well, eh. aptitude?
[05:20] <kevin_> Navarone>  the error I get is " Read error from: Error reading NAV packet".  Do you know what I would install to fix it?
[05:20] <pawdro> no, just apt-get
[05:20] <pawdro> like in the handbook
[05:20] <dabaR> pawdro: aptitude search package. or apt-cache search, if you really want to know two commands, and type a -
[05:20] <dabaR> what handbook now?
[05:21] <dabaR> the handbook
[05:21] <dabaR> quiet channel.
[05:21] <pawdro> aptitude
[05:21] <pawdro> sorry ;] 
[05:21] <dabaR> just search already, I could haev searched by now.
[05:21] <logical_mark> hey where do I go to increase the time Grub gives me to select an OS?
[05:21] <aeruder> hrmm... anyone point me to something on the apparently amd64-only issue of : (soffice.bin.real:27625): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[05:22] <dabaR> pawdro: what the heck does libdivx4 play:)
[05:22] <slide> so question, the guide on the forums for upgrading firefox to 1.5, its not the 'normal' way right? It like one be installed in the package manager eh?
[05:22] <navarone> kevin> have you installed the totem-xine package...I think that's the name
[05:22] <pawdro> ;] 
[05:22] <mrkoje> pawdro: I can't find the package either. Maybe it doesn't exist after all :)
[05:23] <pawdro> ok
[05:23] <sphivo> logical_mark: In /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a 'timeout' setting
[05:23] <mrkoje> Or its just not packaged for deb
[05:23] <alekz> what is gnome-pty-helper process ?
[05:23] <pawdro> ill go for it
[05:23] <mtupper> Toma-, sorry to bust your ###$, but its not in there (Security & Privacy)
[05:23] <kevin_> Navarone>  I installed gxine.  I'll try totem-xine.  Thanks!
[05:23] <dabaR> slide: what? just use the normal epiphany, whats firefox?
[05:23] <pawdro> thx 4 all
[05:23] <Toma-> mtupper: i dont have kde installed, im just getting it off a google search ;)
[05:23] <mtupper> ahhh
[05:23] <dustin_> dashrik, i apt got xchat
[05:23] <mtupper> i can do that!!!
[05:23] <navarone> kevin> i got dvd playing last night...but had to install a bit of stuff
[05:23] <logical_mark> Hey guys I lost my conn. Anyway. Where do I go to increase the time Grub gives me to select and OS?
[05:23] <mtupper> k, thx
[05:23] <chapium> i cant :'(
[05:24] <sphivo> logical_mark: In /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a 'timeout' setting
[05:24] <kevin_> Navarone> Any specifics you could give me would be greatly appreciated
[05:25] <navarone> kevin...totem-xine is the name I installed...install it and anything else it throws in when you do
[05:25] <chapium> wtf, eth0 is disabled
[05:25] <mrkoje> exit
[05:25] <mcadory> logical_mark: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:25] <kevin_> Navarone>  Thanks.  I will try that.  What is the comand to "uninstall"?
[05:26] <logical_mark> mcadory: thanks that was the ticket
[05:26] <navarone> kevin...I dunno...I use synaptic not cli
[05:26] <Hobbsee> kevin_: aptitude remove programname
[05:26] <PokerFacePenguin> apt-get remove x
[05:26] <kevin_> Hobsee> Thanks!
[05:27] <merc> anyone install kde 3.5 yet?
[05:27] <navarone> What do I install to get some MS type fonts...like Times New Roamn?
[05:27] <mtupper> ahh, remembered something else...  I find Kwifimanager to be kinda ghetto...  can someone please tell me the CLI command to release/reset the IP address for an interface?  I tried ifconfig with options to no avail...
[05:27] <anavim> how do runlevels in ubuntu work?  2-5 in inittab all seem to do the same thing, and 1 is root.  I would like to have gdm not start on boot
[05:27] <Hobbsee> merc: plenty of people on #kubuntu
[05:28] <merc> Hobbsee: ah, thanks for the direction :)
[05:28] <anavim> but I don't want to start as root  :(
[05:28] <PokerFacePenguin> sudo dhclient eth0
[05:28] <mrkoje_> mtupper iwconig
[05:28] <mrkoje_> mtupper I think
[05:28] <mrkoje_> iwconfig
[05:28] <Anfaenger> hi i have a geforce 4200 ti go in my laptop, is there any chance to get the tv out working ?
[05:28] <PokerFacePenguin> mtupper: if eth0 is your wireless card
[05:29] <fangorious> any pointers for no audio when resuming from suspend, but resuming from hibernate audio works?
[05:29] <Toma-> !msttfcosefonts
[05:29] <ubotu> Toma-: Wish i knew
[05:29] <Toma-> !msttfcorefonts
[05:29] <ubotu> Toma-: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:29] <Toma-> grr
[05:29] <pixelmonkey> fangorious, tried restarting alsa after resume?
[05:29] <kestas> ubuntu on a 400mhz machine with 128mb ram was running slow as hell until I killed gam_server
[05:29] <kestas> anyone know why?
[05:29] <mtupper> PokerFacePenguin: money, thanks, BRB gonna try it out.
[05:30] <kestas> I mean *really* slow
[05:30] <Toma-> navarone: get the package msttcorefonts
[05:30] <Toma-> !msttcorefonts
[05:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:30] <bassinboy> been a while since i installed ubuntu, where do i see if my wireless adapters are spported?
[05:31] <Anfaenger> nvtv doesnt support my chipset
[05:31] <navarone> Thanks Toma...I was lookinga t my installed files...not "not installed" lol
[05:31] <bimberi> !wireless
[05:31] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:31] <Anfaenger> so the howto is useless to me
[05:31] <Toma-> hehe
[05:31] <aldmal> anybody know how to get USB device using uhci_hcd and address # to stop auto incrementing?
[05:31] <bimberi> bassinboy: ^^^
[05:31] <bassinboy> bimberi: thanks
[05:31] <bimberi> bassinboy: np :)
[05:31] <mrkoje_> bassinboy: goto the ubuntu wiki
[05:31] <Anfaenger> and: are there any know problems between ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant ?
[05:31] <makkk> what are the 'plf repos'?
[05:31] <fangorious> pixelmonkey: didn't help
[05:32] <navarone> Does package install the fonts or do I install them myself? And can I point installer to my windows partition to ge tthem?
[05:32] <Toma-> makkk: theyre for mandrake. leave them alone
[05:32] <makkk> oh... i'd like to get java working with firefox 1.5 any good ideas?
[05:32] <makkk> Toma-
[05:32] <Toma-> navarone: it'll download them all from MS and install them for you
[05:32] <pixelmonkey> fangorious, well, it sounds to me like your soundcard driver doesn't have code for handling a resume/suspend cycle
[05:32] <PokerFacePenguin> does NTP syncing at boot attempt to reset your BIOS clock?  I keep finding it set wrong
[05:32] <navarone> kk
[05:32] <spikebike> no
[05:32] <vbgunz> this might sound like a stupid question but here it goes... Anyone know how I can change the default icon Firefox and Mozilla use? Not the launcher icon *but* the window task list icons... Anyone know how?
[05:32] <pixelmonkey> fangorious, so you may need to unload it (rmmod) prior to suspend, and modprobe it after.
[05:32] <Toma-> makkk: firefox 1.5 is risky.
[05:32] <fangorious> pixelmonkey: then why would I have sound after resuming from hibernate?
[05:33] <pixelmonkey> fangorious, if by hibernate you mean suspend2, I imagine it's because the hibernation script unloads that module automatically
[05:33] <pixelmonkey> fangorious, my hibernate script unloads my soundcard driver prior to suspend, and reloads it after resume
[05:33] <spikebike> no
[05:33] <makkk> Toma- you dont recommend it then? Its such an improvement, especially in speed. I would just like to get Java working
[05:33] <spikebike> but it's realtively straight forward to set the bios on shutdown
[05:33] <spikebike> which is when you want to do it
[05:33] <aldmal> vbgubz, right click on app ,select properties
[05:34] <fangorious> pixelmonkey: ah, that would e a good reason. I was looking for differences in /etc/acpi/{hibernate,sleep}.sh and couldn't find one relevant to sound
[05:34] <Toma-> makkk: theres a bit of a howto here: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[05:34] <Toma-> but dont be surprised if it curls up and dies
[05:34] <makkk> ok. thanks
[05:34] <dabaR> hey, I could not get past detecting hardware on some ibm amd, is it maybe a 64 arch?
[05:35] <Anfaenger> how can i set up to console commands in the window task list ?
[05:35] <vbgunz> aldmal: sorry, but I don't understand... You mean right click on the launcher?
[05:35] <dabaR> Anfaenger: in the menu?
[05:35] <PokerFacePenguin> i was fooling around in grub and accidentally hit the recover option.......would that be the reason the bios clock changed?
[05:35] <Anfaenger> yes
[05:35] <Anfaenger> the commands are
[05:35] <Anfaenger> cd hlds_l
[05:35] <Anfaenger> and ./hlds_run
[05:35] <PokerFacePenguin> it got set to UTC it seems
[05:35] <kevin_> Navarone> "Totem could not play 'dvd://'. - Could not read title information for DVD."
[05:35] <slashx1896> Hey, is there another movie player other then totem?. totem wont play my .wmv movie (yes i have totem-xine)
[05:36] <aldmal> no click on the app as if you were going to open it - excpet left click and select propeties
[05:36] <Anfaenger> i just one to klick on one menu item
[05:36] <afb> i just installed xmms... i can open a terminal and run it but when i close the terminal xmms closes... how do i start it and keep it running?
[05:37] <fangorious> slashx1896: there's mplayer, xineui, vlc, ...
[05:37] <uenyioha> hey guys
[05:37] <uenyioha> how do i install the 32bit libc
[05:37] <uenyioha> i have an amd64
[05:37] <slashx1896> fangorious, whats the best one? or it doesnt matter
[05:37] <fangorious> slashx1896: did you install the win32 codecs to use with totem-xine?
[05:37] <dabaR> Anfaenger: tried smeg?
[05:37] <slashx1896> fangorious, im not sure
[05:37] <Amaranth> dabaR: alacarte :)
[05:38] <dabaR> Anfaenger: I don't know how stable it is.
[05:38] <calc> uenyioha: ia32-libs ?
[05:38] <dabaR> Amaranth: :P
[05:38] <vbgunz> anybody know how I can change the globe.png for Firefox to the standard image of Firefox?
[05:38] <slashx1896> fangorious, i think thats my problem though
[05:38] <fangorious> slashx1896: if playing a WMV is the only reasing you're looking for a different player, try doing that first. Do you have /usr/lib/win32 with a bunch of DLL files in it?
[05:38] <Amaranth> dabaR: I believe it's in backports.
[05:38] <afb> how to run a process from a terminal and not have the process die when i kill the terminal?
[05:38] <dabaR> really. nice:)
[05:38] <Anfaenger> i dont knwo what smeg is
[05:38] <vbgunz> afb: try nohup programname
[05:38] <afb> vbgunz, thx
[05:38] <Amaranth> afb: run it with & then run `exit` instead of closing the window
[05:38] <vbgunz> afb: ;)
[05:39] <dabaR> Anfaenger: install. from backports ^
[05:39] <mrkoje> vbgunz: are you trying to change the icon of firefox?
[05:39] <slashx1896> Could not find /usr/lib/win32
[05:39] <afb> ok, thx
[05:39] <vbgunz> mrkojeyes
[05:39] <Anfaenger> there is no way to just insert a menu item, that can do terminal 2 commands?
[05:39] <vbgunz> mrkoje: yes
[05:39] <uenyioha> calc: do i need the devel libraries?
[05:39] <mrkoje> vbgunz: right click the icon in the tray and click on properties
[05:40] <dabaR> Anfaenger: yes, smeg.
[05:40] <uenyioha> calc: i seem to have the standard libs installed
[05:40] <fangorious> !w32codecs
[05:40] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:40] <afb> would be nice if when u install something with synaptic it would add to the menu
[05:40] <mrkoje> vbgunz: then click on the big icon button!
[05:40] <dabaR> afb: everything in main does.
[05:40] <afb> i dont even know where the stuff installs lol
[05:40] <fangorious> what's that neat thing people do in here to have some bot tell someone about some common question?
[05:40] <vbgunz> mrkoje: I do not wish to change the launcher icon... The actual program icon... I have the real Firefox icon in the launcher *but* the actual program is represented by a globe...
[05:40] <afb> that & exit thing worked... thank u
[05:40] <Amaranth> afb: Most things do add items to the menu. If they don't it's probably a bug. What did you install?
[05:41] <afb> xmms
[05:41] <afb> i want to listen to shoutcast streams
[05:41] <dabaR> afb: also, "nohup esd&" will leave esd running.
[05:41] <Amaranth> afb: It should have shown up in Sound & Multimedia
[05:41] <slashx1896> fangorious: Could not find /usr/lib/win32
[05:41] <afb> holy crap i'm an idiot lol
[05:41] <afb> it did
[05:41] <mrkoje> vbgunz: where is the program located? I am not sure I know what your talking about then. That's all an icon is for "is to launch" the program
[05:42] <afb> now i just need a better skin for this thing...
[05:42] <fangorious> afb: anything that plays the content type the station you want to listen to can play the shoutcast stream
[05:42] <bimberi> !tell fangorious about yourself
[05:42] <fangorious> !tell slashx1896 about w32codecs
[05:42] <t1n_m4n> does openssh-server include sftp? If so, how do I set the port for SFTP? if not, where do I get it?
[05:42] <fangorious> !tell slashx1896 about win32codecs
[05:42] <Amaranth> vbgunz: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips#app_icon
[05:42] <Amaranth> vbgunz: It's for windows but it should work on linux, just change the paths.
[05:42] <navarone> afb> try eclipse
[05:42] <vbgunz> mrkoje: when you launch a program, try to Alt+Tab through your windows... The Firefox program is represented by a globe and not the real firefox icon...
[05:42] <vbgunz> Amaranth: thanks, looking now!
[05:43] <afb> navarone, eclipse skin? or is eclipse a different player?
[05:43] <tomy> jjghjghjghjhg
[05:43] <navarone> eclipse skin
[05:43] <Anfaenger> dabar how does smeg work?
[05:43] <fangorious> slashx1896: did that work?
[05:43] <tomy> hi
[05:43] <afb> k
[05:43] <fangorious> bimberi: thanks
[05:43] <dabaR> Anfaenger: did you try it?
[05:43] <dabaR> you click, type press ok, and its there.
[05:43] <Anfaenger> ok yes
[05:43] <Anfaenger> i have one simple problem
[05:43] <bimberi> fangorious: np :)
[05:43] <tomy> hi angel
[05:43] <Anfaenger> i dont know what to insert into "command"
[05:44] <mrkoje> vbgunz: I see what your talking about
[05:44] <fangorious> pixelmonkey: any pointer on where suspend2's scripts are? I can't seem to unload what I thought was the sound card's
[05:44] <fangorious> module
[05:44] <vbgunz> mrkoje: :)
[05:44] <Anfaenger> i have two commands which i use to type into console
[05:44] <vbgunz> Amaranth: I think you hit it right on the head!
[05:44] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: What are they?
[05:44] <slashx1896> fangorious: Archive manger wont load the file
[05:44] <pixelmonkey> fangorious, mine are in /usr/share/hibernate, but I installed suspend2 manually.
[05:44] <Anfaenger> cd hlds_l
[05:44] <Anfaenger> and
[05:44] <aldmal> has anyboby gotten a Palm Tungsten work with 5.1
[05:44] <Anfaenger> ./hlds_run
[05:44] <vbgunz> Amaranth: I found that ugly globe... am going to murder it now...
[05:44] <tomy> mbok jawab yang wanita stw aku butuh stw
[05:45] <Rev-Marc> can anyone help with getting a PocketPC device to connect to Ubuntu?
[05:45] <Anfaenger> ./hlds_run -game cstrike
[05:45] <atrophic> What's the difference between Removal and Complete Removal in Synaptic?
[05:45] <vbgunz> *but* how to convert a PNG to a XPM? or can I simply change the extension? :|
[05:45] <fangorious> !tell fangorious about w32codecs
[05:45] <sampan> aldmal, yes, i had my palm tungsten t3 working with kpilot -- only thing i had to do was change the permissions on the device to allow it to hotsync
[05:45] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: In "Command:" put `cd hlds_l && ./hlds_run -game cstrike`
[05:45] <dabaR> Anfaenger: well, that's like running /home/anfanger/hlds_l/hlds_run
[05:45] <aldmal> hi Rev sounds like we have the same problem
[05:45] <Anfaenger> thx
[05:46] <Anfaenger> !tell Anfaenger about w32codecs
[05:46] <bimberi> fangorious: you can also "/msg ubotu w32codecs" (saves channel traffic) :)
[05:46] <aldmal> sampan can u explain?
[05:46] <mcadory> atrophic: dependency removal, i think
[05:46] <slashx1896> I downlaoded the file from the link ubotu gave me, and when i open it Archive manager gives me an error saying archive type not supported
[05:46] <mrkoje> vbgunz: where is it
[05:46] <crsd> vbgunz: use ImageMagick
[05:46] <atrophic> mcadory, thanks
[05:46] <Rev-Marc> it appears to be a tough one
[05:46] <fangorious> bimberi: yeah, ubotu chastised me about that!
[05:46] <Amaranth> dabaR: Some apps use the current working directory to find and store config files and such.
[05:46] <bob832> ubuntu is considered a debian version of linux, correct?
[05:46] <dustin_> how do i add gmail to my thunderbird?
[05:46] <boa-chan> its debian based
[05:46] <sampan> aldmal, it was a month or two ago ... lemme see if i have a bookmark that i followed in doing it brb
[05:46] <aldmal> k
[05:46] <bimberi> fangorious: yes, ubotu's like that :)
[05:46] <navarone> agb> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5208
[05:46] <fangorious> slashx1896: save the .deb locally, then 'dpkg -i w32codecs....deb'
[05:46] <dabaR> Amaranth: well, if he can even do that...
[05:46] <dustin_> bob832, debian is a version of ubuntu
[05:46] <Anfaenger> dabaR,  yes it is
[05:46] <vbgunz> crsd: I have ImageMagick huh?
[05:46] <Amaranth> dabaR: And when running from the menu it's like running from $HOME.
[05:46] <dabaR> Amaranth: he has to install.
[05:47] <dustin_> any ideas on the gmail?
[05:47] <Amaranth> dabaR: Install what?
[05:47] <navarone> afb> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5208
[05:47] <bob832> ok
[05:47] <bob832> thanks
[05:47] <Rev-Marc> aldmal I am trying to connect a Dell Axim X30
[05:47] <Anfaenger> dabar I did ,what you told me, but the window comes up and then closes
[05:48] <atrophic> Which is better for a laptop, Network-Manager or gtkwifi?
[05:48] <slashx1896> fangorious: dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[05:48] <aldmal> i know but it's the same principle - usb connection
[05:48] <Amaranth> slashx1896: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*.deb
[05:48] <fangorious> slashx1896: 'sudo dpkg ...'
[05:48] <dabaR> Anfaenger: nohup blah&
[05:48] <tomy> yuyuy
[05:49] <Anfaenger> dabar sorry, what ?
[05:49] <dabaR> Anfaenger: "nohup blah&"
[05:50] <slashx1896> dpkg: error processing w32codecs....deb (--install):
[05:50] <slashx1896>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:50] <slashx1896> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:50] <slashx1896>  w32codecs....deb
[05:50] <Rev-Marc> can anyone help with getting a PocketPC device to connect to Ubuntu?
[05:50] <fangorious> slashx1896: that wasn't meant to be taken literally, I just didn't want to type it all out so I put ... in there
[05:50] <dabaR> slashx1896: if that is not obvious...
[05:50] <nalioth> slashx1896: you'll need to d/l the w32codecs directly and install it locally
[05:50] <sampan> aldmal, it's for kpilot but the Device Setup has a subheading of Pilot Device with the explanation http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdepim/kpilot/general-setup.html
[05:50] <navarone> slash ar eyo in directory that the deb file is in?
[05:50] <Anfaenger> dabaR,  can you please tell me what exactly to write in commands line
[05:50] <dabaR> Anfaenger: 3rd time?
[05:51] <dabaR> replace blah with the command
[05:51] <sampan> aldmal, that assumes you're connecting via usb
[05:51] <aldmal> thks i'll try it
[05:51] <dabaR> Anfaenger: make sure you have the name part.
[05:51] <Anfaenger> is it nohupp && /home/paul/hlds_l/hlds_run -game cstrike
[05:51] <Anfaenger> ?
[05:52] <vbgunz> I really dislike installing a program (e.g. imagemagick) and no menu shows up for it...
[05:52] <Anfaenger> dabaR,  was it right what i typed?
[05:53] <dabaR> no, nohup /home/paul/hlds_l/hlds_run\ -game\ cstrike&, maybe?
[05:53] <afb> ok, now... eclipse on ubuntu?
[05:53] <y0z7> any idea why the snd_sbawe.ko module would be missing from ubuntu 5.10 ?
[05:53] <slashx1896> fangorious: sorry tired and not thinkin strait, and same type of thing happend
[05:53] <dabaR> Anfaenger: Amaranth knows details.
[05:53] <navarone> vbgunz> what I do when I can't find a prog is go to synaptic and choose status at bottom left and find prog. Then right click and choose properties and Installed files...shows you paths to where everything was placed
[05:53] <Anfaenger> for what are the \ ?
[05:53] <y0z7> trying to get an ISA SB AWE32 soundcard going
[05:53] <Davethewave> whats the other ubuntu channel
[05:53] <dabaR> the spaces, dunno if you need them at all:)
[05:53] <atrophic> vbgunz, use the menu editor.  Applications, system tools, applications menu editor... I think
[05:53] <Davethewave> ubuntu... group?
[05:53] <navarone> afb> did you see screenshot?
[05:53] <dabaR> Davethewave: ubuntu-mo
[05:53] <afb> navarone, yes i did... it is dark... thats what i dont want
[05:54] <afb> navarone, cant read it
[05:54] <Amaranth> dabaR: I know no such thing. :P
[05:54] <navarone> afb> that was what I was going for...easier on my eyes...<s>
[05:54] <vbgunz> navarone: I know that one, just find doing it that way a bore and time wasting... I would be convinced such behaviour relates back to an unsquashed bug... man I wish I had the skills :P
[05:54] <Davethewave> ahh ubuntuforums
[05:54] <mrkoje> you could try       ~# whereis xxxxxx
[05:54] <afb> navarone, my goal is to be able to read it
[05:54] <vbgunz> atrophic: I'll check that but am in Synaptic properties now
[05:54] <navarone> afb> mine is to listen to it...<s>
[05:54] <y0z7> .. or why is isapnpinfo missing from ubuntu .. that's another q
[05:55] <Anfaenger> dabaR,  how can i see if it works
[05:55] <Anfaenger> ?
[05:55] <dabaR> whether it work
[05:55] <dabaR> s
[05:55] <Anfaenger> the nuhup command
[05:56] <atrophic> vbgunz, if it doesn't come standard with breezy, the menu editing app is called smeg or alacarte.  I think it should already be installed on your system though.
[05:56] <Amaranth> smeg comes with breezy, alacarte is the new version
[05:56] <vbgunz> atrophic: thanks... finding the front-end to imagemagick is becoming a pain...
[05:56] <Amaranth> it's in dapper, might be in backports, and is available from my website
[05:56] <Amaranth> !alacarte
[05:56] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[05:56] <aldmal> sampan which ver U r u using?
[05:57] <dabaR> haha
[05:57] <encompass> Has anyone here had the rtl8180 wireless chipset to work in the latest ubuntu?
[05:57] <navarone> vbgunz> what happens if you type imagemagick in terminal?
[05:57] <dabaR> Amaranth: is that free software?:)
[05:57] <vbgunz> navarone: nothing
[05:57] <mrkoje> encompass: I have heard horror stories about realtex cards
[05:57] <Amaranth> dabaR: Don't laugh at my marketoid speak. :)
[05:57] <mrkoje> not in breezy though... haven't heard any
[05:58] <mrkoje> encompass: assuming thats what the rtl is
[05:58] <steven_> ok i have ventilo 2.1.0, i got the gsm codex to work, but i cant figure out how to set up vent so that i can acutally use it
[05:58] <sampan> aldmal, i use kubuntu and kpilot ... but actually i haven't reinstalled kpilot since i last reinstalled breezy (long story, don't ask) -- but i know that's what i had to do (change perms on the device) to allow it to hotsync -- i'd imagine it would be the same with gnome-pilot
[05:58] <encompass> mrkoje I have had good success until I hit this new kernel
[05:58] <Anfaenger> amaranth can you help me please with smeg ?
[05:58] <aldmal> i'm using breezy abd the fix u listed doesn't work
[05:58] <Rev-Marc> why when I am in terminal I can't change to a dir with a space in it's name?
[05:58] <encompass> the open source driver won't work
[05:58] <aldmal> just tried it
[05:58] <steven_> right now i can hear eveyone on the server but i cant talk
[05:58] <mrkoje> encompass: i see
[05:58] <mrkoje> encompass: might try rolling back the kernal
[05:58] <encompass> Rev-Marc try the cd /the\ Dir{
[05:58] <encompass> Rev-Marc try the cd /the\ Dir/
[05:58] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: A good way to see what is going on is to try to run the command in a terminal and look at what happens.
[05:58] <encompass> that
[05:58] <slashx1896> nvm i found my problem
[05:59] <sampan> aldmal, hrmmmm ... the /dev/pilot exists and you have rw access to it?
[05:59] <aldmal> yes
[05:59] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: Once you get a one-line command that works in a terminal it should work in a menu entry.
[05:59] <mrkoje> encompasss: or comparing the two, find out whats conflicting and then recompile it
[05:59] <shad0w1e> hey, how do I merge the contents of two folders together? If I say "yes" to overwrite, it will get rid of the original target which is not what I want.... I want "windows-style" overwriting... how can I do that?
[05:59] <Anfaenger> amaranth i have a very easy problem, in my terminal everything works fine
[05:59] <shad0w1e> directories. excuse me
[05:59] <Anfaenger> but if i insert it into menu
[05:59] <Anfaenger> nothing works
[05:59] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: what are you running from the terminal?
[05:59] <aldmal> breezy keeps incrementing the adress one with each sync
[05:59] <encompass> well here is the thing, the cvs version of the drver works but... it is in cvs, I havent the foggiest how to get a file from cvs
[05:59] <bur[n] er> shad0w1e: u can do it in a term
[06:00] <shad0w1e> bur[n] er, how
[06:00] <damian_> Hello, I'm sure this has been asked many times, but I'm trying to connect my linux box to windows xp. I can see my linux box in windows but I can't see the the workgroup in Ubuntu. What should I do?
[06:00] <sampan> aldmal, well at least that's one possible pitfall down ... not exactly sure what else to try, it worked flawlessly for me first time once i did that
[06:00] <encompass> I tried to get it all yesterday
[06:00] <Anfaenger> two commands
[06:00] <Rev-Marc> says no such file or directory I am trying to change to "My Downloads"
[06:00] <Anfaenger> cs hlds_l
[06:00] <Anfaenger> and then
[06:00] <Anfaenger> ./hlds_run +game cstrike
[06:00] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: cd My\ Downloads
[06:00] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: What happens if you run `cd hlds_l && ./hlds_run +game cstrike` in a terminal?
[06:01] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: Open a new terminal and try it.
[06:01] <encompass> Rev-Marc use the tab, it will help type cd M then press tab
[06:01] <vbgunz> this is incredible
[06:01] <vbgunz> anybody know how to get to imagemagick?
[06:01] <damian_> alo?
[06:01] <Anfaenger> it works
[06:01] <vbgunz> I installed it and by far the worse app to try and find... am tired but not dead... anybody know how to launch imagemagick?
[06:01] <encompass> vbgunz try this whereis imagemagik I don't think it has a c
[06:02] <cafuego> it does
[06:02] <Rev-Marc> Thank You
[06:02] <encompass> image and tab
[06:02] <cafuego> !info imagemagick
[06:02] <ubotu> imagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB
[06:02] <mrkoje> hola
[06:02] <cdubya> vbgunz, /usr/bin/imagemagick ?
[06:02] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: And that's the _exact_ same thing you put in your menu entry (minus the quotes, of course)
[06:02] <Rev-Marc> can anyone help with getting a PocketPC device to connect to Ubuntu?
[06:02] <cafuego> The app to run would be '/usr/bin/convert'
[06:02] <shad0w1e> How do I merge the contents of two directories together, without just plain deleting whatever it finds already existing?
[06:02] <vbgunz> cdubya: no directory
[06:02] <encompass> wow, lots of newbees here
[06:02] <vbgunz> encompass: will try that
[06:03] <cafuego> shad0w1e: rsync
[06:03] <bimberi> vbgunz: "dpkg -L imagemagick | grep bin" will show what commands were installed with the package
[06:03] <shad0w1e> cafuego, thanks, will man it
[06:03] <aru> why would my screen at 1280x1024 in gnome be hard to read but in xfce its clear, should there be any difference?
[06:03] <encompass> tab is like auto complettion to see all the available commands try pressing tab twice
[06:03] <mrkoje> damian: you can mount folders from windows on your ubuntu machine really easy
[06:03] <aldmal> maybe the screen setting are dif in both GUI's
[06:03] <vbgunz> encompass: imagemagik: is all that returned
[06:03] <encompass> aru it could be your font sizes
[06:03] <vbgunz> bimberi: ok, will try that
[06:03] <anavim> how do I set my runlevel in /etc/inittab to just get text login, and not gdm?
[06:03] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: ?
[06:03] <encompass> then type imagemagik and press enter
[06:04] <cafuego> vbgunz: Run 'convert'
[06:04] <cafuego> encompass: no
[06:04] <cafuego> vbgunz: Run 'convert'
[06:04] <blobbo> Hi all.  Just got the CDs in the mail and am so impressed.  This is the first liveCD that's worked on my mac with ease.
[06:04] <Rev-Marc> everyone is a newbee in something at sometime
[06:04] <mrkoje> damian_: ?
[06:04] <Anfaenger> amaranth let me check .)
[06:04] <navarone> vbgunz> try magick in terminal
[06:04] <vbgunz> magick not found...
[06:04] <Anfaenger> error message
[06:04] <blobbo> A few questions: Package maintenance?  What does Ubuntu use for that?  Is there something similar to apt-get?
[06:04] <Anfaenger> Eintrag konnte nicht gestartet werden
[06:04] <Anfaenger> Details: Kindprozess cd konnte nicht ausgefhrt werden (Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden)
[06:04] <cafuego> vbgunz: HELLO!? 'convert'.
[06:04] <encompass> blobbo well congrats
[06:04] <vbgunz> cafuego: I hear yo
[06:04] <Anfaenger> the process "cd" wasnt able to run
[06:04] <encompass> haha
[06:05] <bimberi> cafuego has the invisible suit on again :P
[06:05] <vbgunz> cafuego: I hear you but it brings up no gui... am looking at it now
[06:05] <bassinboy> so after i load ndiswrapper, how do i create the device?
[06:05] <cafuego> vbgunz: Yes, imagemahick has no gui.
[06:05] <cafuego> vbgunz: it's command-line only.
[06:05] <encompass> bassinboy do you have the ndis driver for your card?
[06:05] <cafuego> vbgunz: If you're after a gui for editing, run 'gimp'.
[06:05] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: I don't know what that means.
[06:05] <navarone> A commandline image editor...that's like my worse nightmare
[06:06] <bassinboy> encompass: nevermind got it working
[06:06] <vbgunz> cafuego: I read before installing it, it had a frontend... That is what I was looking for... I remember ImageMagick had a front-end... All I need to do is change a PNG to an XPM
[06:06] <atrophic> blobbo, ubuntu uses apt-get, there's also a very nice gui for it called synaptic (system, administration, synaptic...)
[06:06] <encompass> bassinboy good
[06:06] <vbgunz> navarone: tell me about it... :(
[06:06] <cafuego> vbgunz: 'convert foo.png foo.xpm'
[06:06] <Anfaenger> he couldnt start "cd" couse he didnt find hlds_l
[06:06] <dabaR> Anfaenger: #ubuntu-de might know.
[06:06] <vbgunz> cafuego: will try that!
[06:06] <Anfaenger> and i copy pasted
[06:06] <blobbo> Terrific.  Didn't poke around that much - the speed off a CD wasn't terrific!
[06:06] <shad0w1e> crap. not what I need...
[06:06] <bassinboy> is there a repo i need to install all the wireless goodies like airsnort?
[06:07] <shad0w1e> how do I copy files using windows-style overwriting?
[06:07] <blobbo> So I'm ready to take the plunge and make my mac a dual-boot system.  Problem is I have a ton of files on my HD and no way to backup.
[06:07] <shad0w1e> blobbo, so back up...
[06:07] <shad0w1e> : )
[06:07] <cafuego> shad0w1e: cp -i file list /targetdir
[06:07] <aldmal> blobbo, the install to a hard drive works Great too.
[06:07] <anavim> blobbo, then run livecd until you change your mind to backup
[06:07] <encompass> haha
[06:07] <TobyK> how does one set up an fstab entry to allow a user to mount a samba share? no matter WHAT I try, it says "Operation not permitted" unless I mount as root
[06:07] <cafuego> shad0w1e: it will ask if it should overwrite if a file already exists in /targetdir
[06:07] <shad0w1e> cafuego, I want to copy one DIR into another
[06:07] <aldmal> Fisrt time I got a distro to work on my PC
[06:08] <shad0w1e> but I want it to recursively check everything
[06:08] <blobbo> Reformatting is out of the question, but I obviously need to resize my partition map so that I can add a partition for linux.
[06:08] <cafuego> shad0w1e: cd dir; cp -i * /targetdir
[06:08] <bassinboy> is there a repo i need to install all the wireless goodies like airsnort?
[06:08] <navarone> Hi Chef...bork bork
[06:08] <encompass> man cp
[06:08] <TobyK> please help with fstab issue
[06:08] <blobbo> Is there a way I can do that?  GParted looked as though it could handle it..
[06:08] <cafuego> See also 'cp -a'
[06:08] <cafuego> Or just use rsync.
[06:08] <cdubya> blobbo, are you running os x?
[06:08] <anavim> blobbo, never change partition sizes without backing up
[06:08] <shad0w1e> I tried rsync
[06:08] <aldmal> Ubuntu install will do it automatically just follow the instructions on screen
[06:08] <encompass> haha rsync that will get them confused
[06:08] <shad0w1e> it didnt copy the files...
[06:08] <blobbo> Or can I have linux *and* Mac OS X installed on the same partition?  I'd guess that's a bad idea.
[06:08] <blobbo> cdubya, Yes.
[06:08] <anavim> blobbo, no, they can't be on the same partition
[06:08] <blobbo> admal: Will it not erase my HD?
[06:08] <shad0w1e> theres no single way to recursively overwrite ?
[06:09] <aldmal> nope
[06:09] <shad0w1e> crapz
[06:09] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: Try `cd /home/<your username here>/hlds_l && ./hlds_run +game cstrike`
[06:09] <aldmal> I dula boot XP and Breezy
[06:09] <TobyK> anybody??? fstab and samba?
[06:09] <atrophic> blobbo, it will automagically repartition for you, but backups are still a good idea
[06:09] <aldmal> the boot manager is even included
[06:09] <shad0w1e> ok thanks peeps...
[06:09] <shad0w1e> cya later
[06:09] <navarone> aldmal...blobbo is on a mac
[06:09] <encompass> toby man samba or google that
[06:09] <encompass> it is easier to ask google
[06:09] <aldmal> i know
[06:09] <cdubya> blobbo, follow the previous suggestion, backup first....then check into an app like Volume Works or one of the other partitioning apps on os x that will allow you to resize the hfs partition to a smaller one......
[06:10] <TobyK> i have tried man and google, this is my last resort!!
[06:10] <cdubya> without reformatting, I mean....
[06:10] <Anfaenger> Amaranth, i tired it, same error message
[06:10] <fangorious> TobyK: what was the question?
[06:10] <Amaranth> Anfaenger: I'm lost...
[06:10] <Anfaenger> something is wrong with the directory but i dont know what
[06:10] <cafuego> blobbo: Backup your data; parted (the resizer on the install cd) can resize your HFS+ partition for you.
[06:10] <vbgunz> omg... all that trouble with imagemagick and after all is said and done it took a beautiful 1.4kb firefox png and converted it to a 5.1kb xpm garbageized image...
[06:10] <encompass> how to mount a samba partition`?
[06:10] <encompass> sigh
[06:10] <Anfaenger> I copy pasted what i typed in into the terminal
[06:10] <cdubya> cafuego, really? sweet.....
[06:10] <afb> how do u switch between virtual desktops?
[06:11] <Anfaenger> he doesnt find the dir
[06:11] <navarone> vbgunz...does it work?
[06:11] <dseher> Alright, printer question for a new user...  Have a HP PSC1401, installed hplip, every time I try and add a printer thru the gnome printing menu, gnome-cups-add quits on me.. Any ideas?
[06:11] <cafuego> cdubya: I've heard reports that it work,s yes. Ask nalioth :-)
[06:11] <TobyK> I can't get ubuntu to allow a non-root user to mount an smbfs share - it has "user" option, I have done a chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt but ti says "operation not permitted"
[06:11] <anavim> blobbo, if you have a desktop mac you can put a second drive in it and use it for ubuntu
[06:11] <atrophic> afb, control alt left/right
[06:11] <cdubya> huh, hadn't heard that, but that's good news....
[06:11] <afb> is there a way to choose the specific desktop?
[06:11] <vbgunz> navarone: not the results I wanted at all but I guess it does... xpm doesn't support transparency?
[06:11] <shekhar> help! i just tried to install kubuntu-desktop and now gdm has stopped working in gnome and i can't login!!
[06:11] <fangorious> TobyK: are you using gnome?
[06:11] <atrophic> afb, and I set up control-alt 1-4 to switch to specific ones... you can do that in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[06:11] <Anfaenger> ah ok I see
[06:12] <Anfaenger> he doesnt know the command cd
[06:12] <TobyK> fango: it's a server install
[06:12] <encompass> mount -t smbfs -o username=***,password=***
[06:12] <encompass> > \\192.168.0.1\folder /destination
[06:12] <Anfaenger> when i use the menu
[06:12] <nalioth> cafuego: yes?
[06:12] <blobbo> You know maybe I'll just wait until I go home for the holidays.  I have a spare HD lying around that I can backup on and reformat my system.  about time for that anyway.
[06:12] <navarone> vbgunz...I use gimp...I used Imagemagick on windows once long time ago tho
[06:12] <blobbo> How much room does a linux install need?
[06:12] <Anfaenger> is there any other chance to get it working without the cd command?
[06:12] <blobbo> 10GB?
[06:12] <encompass> blobbo you learn!
[06:12] <dabaR> blobbo: for ubuntu?
[06:12] <afb> atrophic, thank u
[06:12] <TobyK> encompass: i need it to be in fstab so I can mount /mnt/xxx
[06:12] <fangorious> blobbo: depends on what you choose to install
[06:12] <vbgunz> navarone: I tried using the gimp but believe I cannot find the export feature :(
[06:12] <encompass> blobbo you could just install on the 10 gb
[06:12] <navarone> vbgunz...export to what?
[06:12] <cafuego> vbgunz: File -> Open; File -> Save as...
[06:12] <spikebike> actually what is the minimal ubuntu ins tall?
[06:12] <nelsmar> okay someone explain this to me i apt-get install kernel-sources-2.6.12 (or whatever) and had problems one after another so finaly i copy hte .configure from the standard ubuntu kernel that was isntalled wheni installed (2.6.10) and compiled with NO MODIFICATION... when i boot it said that there is no /dev/sda7(my root drive sata)
[06:13] <nelsmar> im going crazzzyyy
[06:13] <shekhar> help
[06:13] <encompass> help?
[06:13] <cafuego> spikebike: Just commandline; about 150MB. X+Gnome, around 2GB.
[06:13] <vbgunz> cafuego: thats what I used to do... but kept getting warning about exporting first... is that catch-22 or what?
[06:13] <Anfaenger> if i try it via /home/paul/hlds_l/hlds_run -game cstrike - port 27020 +map de_dust -autoupdate
[06:13] <fangorious> TobyK: I tried getting that set up once, but eventually gave up and just let it be mount owned by root, but gave it a gid that everyone was a member of, and made sure it was mounted with group write
[06:13] <Anfaenger> i got an error message
[06:13] <cafuego> vbgunz: just tel it exporting is fine when it says that.
[06:13] <shekhar> encompass: i just tried to install kubuntu-desktop and now gdm has stopped working in gnome and i can't login!!
[06:13] <vbgunz> ok brb
[06:13] <TobyK> fango: how do you make it mount with group write?
[06:13] <spikebike> cafuego sweet I have a 1GB CF I want to use in a firewall
[06:14] <encompass> gdm is gnome display manager, are you using a different one now?
[06:14] <spikebike> 150MB is about what I expected, don't need much besides vim, ssh, and iptables
[06:14] <fangorious> TobyK: why does it have to be under /mnt? Gnome has "Connect to Server" in the Places menu, which will allow users to mount shares and they show up on the desktop
[06:14] <navarone> ok..I am off to bed...cya all
[06:14] <encompass> bye
[06:14] <bassinbo1> !repos
[06:14] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:14] <nelsmar> lol thats awsome spikebike, iw aqs gonna buy a sony 5gb pen drive(hard driv not solid state, 96mb a sec) and install ubuntu on it for portability
[06:14] <TobyK> i can't believe how dumb and unblievably complicated it is to just mount a samba share in ubuntu as non-root
[06:14] <shekhar> encompass: no i installed kubuntu-desktop and tried to login with a gnome session and it says that GDM could not write to some authorisation file
[06:14] <Anfaenger> !easysource
[06:14] <ubotu> easysource is, like, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:14] <blobbo> I just need room for the linux system install plus applications.  I assume all my documents/music/video can still be stored on my mac boot partition and accessed through linux?
[06:14] <fangorious> TobyK: I think I had to use the umask option to mount, I forget what the umask was
[06:14] <nelsmar> anyone have any idea's on my kernel, or know where i can find a page on manual java install for firefox? cause they are boht driving me mad and i need to get my java fixed up soon so i dont have to use windows for trading 0.o
[06:15] <anavim> can anyone offer me some insight into how runlevels work on ubuntu, other than what's already said in /etc/inittab?
[06:15] <cafuego> TobyK: Places -> Connect to server...
[06:15] <cafuego> TobyK: Is that too hard?
[06:15] <TobyK> i'm not running gnome
[06:15] <TobyK> it's a server install
[06:15] <nelsmar> *blinks*
[06:15] <mrkoje> dabaR: what was that link that you sent me
[06:15] <cafuego> TobyK: Then just smbmount it or use a decent server OS.
[06:15] <encompass> shekhar interesting...
[06:15] <nelsmar> gah stpid video drivers brb
[06:15] <fangorious> TobyK: is it being used as a terminal server
[06:16] <gee_cee0> guys, why does GRUB seem to uninstall itself and stop working whenever i load windows?
[06:16] <dustin_> what is ubunero?
[06:16] <drumline> I don't get any audio in kaffeine... anyone experience that?
[06:16] <TobyK> fango: no it's running web applications
[06:16] <dustin_> gee_cee0, do you mean reinstall windows?
[06:16] <drumline> gee_cee0: you load linux first and then install windows?
[06:16] <anavim> dustin_, that's ubuntu dinero
[06:16] <gee_cee0> no...
[06:16] <encompass> gee_cee0 winblows deletes it
[06:16] <fangorious> TobyK: so why are users connecting to it and mounting smb shares under /mnt
[06:16] <gee_cee0> GRUB stops working after i boot up windows, and shut it down
[06:16] <gee_cee0> i installed windows first, then ubuntu, then grub
[06:17] <dustin_> cool how do i get some?
[06:17] <gee_cee0> i end up having to boot from a grub boot disk and setup (hd0) again
[06:17] <anavim> dustin_, when you find out, let me know  :D
[06:17] <gee_cee0> then it works
[06:17] <TobyK> fango: it's not users, it's my backup scriupt that needs to mount the share and copy database backups to a windows server
[06:17] <encompass> gee_cee0 you may have some antivirus stuff that "fixes" you boot partition
[06:17] <dustin_> you may want to quit using windows = )
[06:17] <atrophic> is there a way to make it not prompt for password after closing the lid to my laptop?
[06:18] <TobyK> besides, don't tell me it's too much to expect a non-root user to be able to mount a smbfs share in teh fstab?
[06:18] <vbgunz> the xpm image format just sucks badly... why would firefox insist on using that and not png?
[06:18] <gee_cee0> encompass: dam its possible
[06:18] <gee_cee0> its a school computer
[06:18] <blanky> hey guys I installed debian sarge through netinstall but I hate it, lol, I'm gonna delete the partition but the fact is that it's using it's grub, I mean, the grub is from debian, not from ubuntu, how can i change this? do you understand what im trying to say?
[06:18] <dustin_> ahh
[06:18] <encompass> toby I gave you a command about five minutes ago
[06:18] <bassinbo1> what repo has ethereal ?
[06:18] <TobyK> unless I just run everything as root
[06:18] <encompass> did you try it?
[06:18] <dustin_> hey i have a gpg key
[06:19] <nelsmar> that was driving me crazy lol
[06:19] <encompass> dustin_ thats nice, tell me it
[06:19] <gee_cee0> blanky: try installing grub onto MBR?
[06:19] <dseher> Alright, printer question for a new user...  Have a HP PSC1401, installed hplip, every time I try and add a printer thru the gnome printing menu, gnome-cups-add quits on me.. Any ideas?
[06:19] <blanky> gee_cee0, it is installed to the mbr
[06:19] <TobyK> encompass: yes it works, however all the scripts are coded to just mount /mnt/backups so it will be a major pain to replace that with smbmount and then hardcode the samba share url
[06:19] <blanky> what I mean is, when I installed debian, I installed grub again, so it's like...I dont think I can control menu.lst from ubuntu, get it?
[06:19] <gee_cee0> blanky: ah...
[06:20] <chapium> I <3 vmware
[06:20] <encompass> can you put it in your script?
[06:20] <encompass> that mount
[06:20] <blanky> gee_cee0, please help me? :(
[06:20] <shekhar> Seveas: could you help me with a problem?
[06:20] <_native_> chapium; why? :] 
[06:20] <nelsmar> *twitches*
[06:20] <nelsmar> i hate java
[06:20] <TobyK> encompass: like i said, i could, but it will be a pain
[06:20] <merc> firefox 1.5 in the sources yet?
[06:20] <chapium> lets me poke around at stuff without nuking my pc
[06:20] <dustin_> encompas, i wanted to register with ubuntu do make a wiki  -- havent gotten ther yet but i had to make a pgp key (basically a circle of trust )  theni had to enable enegam with thunderbird and anyway it is
[06:20] <gee_cee0> encompass: so is there any way to get rid of the "antivirus stuff" thats "fixing" my partition?
[06:21] <fangorious> TobyK: the problem is you need to change samba binaries to be suid, which is a security risk. So it's easier to just have it mounted by root and owned by a group that all relevant users can write to
[06:21] <crimsun> merc: no, read the topic
[06:21] <merc> heh
[06:21] <gee_cee0> blanky: no experience in having more than one UNIX on a computer so...
[06:21] <encompass> don't know windows
[06:21] <TobyK> fango: i understand, I will do that for now
[06:21] <orangerd> hi, does anyone know how i can disable the password lock in gnome?  i've poked around xscreensaver, but that doesn't seem to be the program locking gnome
[06:21] <gee_cee0> blanky: maybe u can cp the menu.lst and put into /boot/grub in ubuntu?
[06:21] <blanky> someone please help me :(
[06:21] <blanky> hmm...
[06:21] <blanky> maybe that's not waht the problem is though
[06:22] <gee_cee0> then reinstall grub?
[06:22] <blanky> in otherwords, when I installed debian, it took control of grub
[06:22] <gee_cee0> from ubuntu
[06:22] <fangorious> TobyK: that way you also don't have to worry about usera trying to mount/write while userb already has it mounted
[06:22] <blanky> gee_cee0, how can I do that?
[06:22] <TobyK> fango: thanks! it was driving me insane , at least now I can give up on trying to get it to work :)
[06:22] <blanky> gee_cee0, log into ubuntu then what
[06:22] <bimberi> blanky: sudo grub-install /dev/hda (if hda is the disk whose mbr you want to install grub into)
[06:22] <gee_cee0> blanky: ok in the terminal
[06:22] <blanky> bimberi: gotta love ya
[06:23] <blanky> gee_cee0, yeah?
[06:23] <gee_cee0> blanky: type grub
[06:23] <Anfaenger> doesn anybody know how to get the tv out, working on my nvidia ti 4200 go card?
[06:23] <blanky> im not in ubuntu right now, im in frickin debian :(
[06:23] <encompass> you know, I vote for a newbee channel
[06:23] <gee_cee0> lmao
[06:23] <blanky> encompass, yeah haha
[06:23] <gee_cee0> lol
[06:23] <blanky> just make #ubuntu-newbies , besides it's freenode
[06:23] <encompass> so that I can have a decent conversation with deeper things here
[06:23] <gee_cee0> someone start it
[06:23] <_native_> encompass; i thought thats where i was already. ;] 
[06:23] <encompass> sigh
[06:23] <gee_cee0> lool
[06:23] <gee_cee0> lol*
[06:23] <drumline> Does anyone know what causes konquerer to say the following when I put in a cd-rom: "An error occured while loading media:/hdc:  The file or folder media:/hdc does not exist."
[06:23] <bimberi> blanky: btw my command has to be run in ubuntu
[06:24] <orangerd> anyone know how to keep gnome unlocked?  it keeps locking asking for my password after going into screensaver..
[06:24] <blanky> bimberi, of course :P
[06:24] <_native_> encompass; i know how you feel
[06:24] <encompass> ok how do I start my own channel
[06:24] <blanky> bimberi
[06:24] <bimberi> blanky: just checkin' :)
[06:24] <encompass> I was in debian and felt better
[06:24] <gee_cee0> blanky: whats the partition or hda that ubuntu is installed in
[06:24] <blanky> bimberi: you said sudo grub-install /dev/hda, but ubuntu is my hda1 partition, so I use that or just hda (for whole hard drive)
[06:24] <fangorious> drumline: what does /etc/fstab have as the mount point for the cd?
[06:24] <blanky> gee_cee0, hda1
[06:25] <bimberi> blanky: just hda
[06:25] <encompass> hda
[06:25] <_native_> orangerd; did you check in preferences>screensaver?
[06:25] <gee_cee0> ah ok... so type grub in ubuntu terminal
[06:25] <blanky> bimberi: thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:25] <orangerd> _native_, yup, xscreensaver doesnt have a lock
[06:25] <blanky> gee_cee0, I got it bud, thanks, bimberi told me to do sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[06:25] <gee_cee0> :)
[06:25] <drumline> fangor: /dev/hdc
[06:25] <bimberi> blanky: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[06:25] <_native_> orangerd; yes it dose
[06:25] <blanky> okay let me go in ubuntu :D
[06:25] <drumline> fangor: hmmm... that doesn't look correct to me.
[06:25] <gee_cee0> for me, sudo grub-install /dev/hda didnt work
[06:25] <orangerd> _native_, well, yeah it does have one but its not enabled :(
[06:26] <gee_cee0> i had to use the grub terminal
[06:26] <orangerd> _native_, but it still asks for a pass
[06:26] <blanky> brb guys
[06:26] <bassinbo1> is there a GUI sudo? like gksu ?
[06:26] <encompass> how do I start my own channel, would it be hard... with the fastest growing linux distro they need something for newer users and older users
[06:26] <_native_> orangerd; when you close the lid on your laptop or ?
[06:26] <orangerd> _native_, well, maybe its not xscreensaver but its something else...
[06:26] <gee_cee0> encompass: yea
[06:26] <_native_> bassinbo1; yes
[06:26] <orangerd> _native_, yup, when i close my laptop lid
[06:26] <drumline> fangor: although, /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/hdc
[06:26] <shekhar> hello could someone help me... i just installed kubuntu-desktop packages on ubuntu and tried logging in and gdm cannot startup and i cannot login to anything, even failsafe sessions
[06:26] <fangorious> drumline: that's the device, what is the mount point?
[06:26] <bassinbo1> _native_: what is it?
[06:26] <encompass> gee_cee0 how it that done, where do I start
[06:27] <the> My OpenGL isn't working yet
[06:27] <angryBeaver> Is there a different linux IM program than GAIM?
[06:27] <_native_> orangerd; i have that prob too but havent looked into it yet :}
[06:27] <drumline> mount point is: /media/cdrom0
[06:27] <encompass> who is the admin here?
[06:27] <the> and there is no driver for my graphics card...no ne wone
[06:27] <gee_cee0> encompass: no idea lol... just publicise a channel and /join it
[06:27] <orangerd> _native_, ahh..  i see...  i guess its something that everyone's annoyed with, eh?
[06:27] <gee_cee0> encompass: /join #ubuntu-newbie
[06:27] <gee_cee0> i think
[06:27] <_native_> orangerd; sort of sometimes i like though.
[06:27] <fangorious> drumline: and /media/cdrom0 exists?
[06:27] <tOpEzz> huhu
[06:28] <the> Anyone know how to enable Direct Rendering without installing a new driver?
[06:28] <bassinbo1> _native_: what is it?
[06:28] <orangerd> _native_, hm..  it executes too quick for me tho :(
[06:28] <blanky> okay im in ubuntu, my partition is hdb1 by the way, not hda1
[06:28] <tOpEzz> hey.... i want to ask here... how to change root passwd?
[06:28] <drumline> fangor: yes, and /media/cdrom -> cdrom0
[06:28] <blanky> bimbi: so sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[06:28] <gee_cee0> blanky: try what bim told u
[06:28] <fangorious> encompass: to 'start' a new channel on a given server, you just join a channel that doesn't yet exist
[06:28] <blanky> bimberi: so sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[06:28] <angryBeaver> Is there a different linux IM program than GAIM?
[06:28] <jason0_> Just built the 2.6 kernel on ubuntu (for weird vpn kernel stuff to be configured), I failed to supply the -append-to-version when i typed make-kpkg, will this be an issue?
[06:28] <_native_> l00k @t M3 !m so 31337. jk.... ;] 
[06:28] <bassinbo1> is there a GUI sudo? like gksu ?   and what is the command?
[06:28] <_native_> just had to do somethin stupid.
[06:29] <the> Anyone know how to enable Direct Rendering without installing a new driver?
[06:29] <_native_> the what card?
[06:29] <gee_cee0> blanky: it work?
[06:29] <_native_> the;
[06:29] <fangorious> bassinbo1: gksudo
[06:29] <encompass> the that is a weird question, what is your card?
[06:29] <bimberi> blanky: do you have an hda?
[06:29] <blanky> !pastebin
[06:29] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:29] <the> _native_ ati. But everyone says to install a new driver
[06:29] <blanky> wait, im gonna paste what it said
[06:29] <blanky> bimberi: i have an hda, but ubuntu is on hdb
[06:29] <the> encompass, ati.
[06:29] <_native_> the; it really does depend
[06:29] <encompass> the ati has dr
[06:29] <TecnoVM64> shit
[06:29] <TecnoVM64> oh err. sorry.
[06:30] <TecnoVM64> wrong chan for the word D:
[06:30] <the> encompass, it says mine doesn't.
[06:30] <fangorious> drumline: in that case I have no idea
[06:30] <the> _native_:  What do you mean?
[06:30] <gee_cee0> encompass: lol /join #ubuntu-newbie
[06:30] <_native_> the; on what card you have like i have a 9200 and direct rendering works out the box
[06:30] <angryBeaver> Anyone reccommend an IM client other than GAIM
[06:30] <nelsmar> GAHHH
[06:30] <nelsmar> will someoen send me their libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:30] <the> _native_:  I have a 9800
[06:30] <drumline> fangor: alrighty.. thanks.  I think i'll try a different drive.
[06:30] <encompass> any NEWBEES come join #ubuntu-newbee PLEASE!
[06:30] <nelsmar> or libjavaplugin.so
[06:30] <bimberi> blanky: windows on hda?
[06:30] <nelsmar> plleassseeeee
[06:30] <blanky> bimberi and gee_cee0 : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/443216
[06:30] <blanky> bimberi: yes :D haven't left it yet cuase of the games
[06:30] <gee_cee0> encompass: ubuntu-newbie
[06:30] <cdubya> angryBeaver, kopete?
[06:30] <the> _native_:  It says: "direct rendering: No
[06:30] <the> "
[06:30] <_native_> the; sorry i wish i had one to work with. ;] 
[06:31] <blanky> quail_linux, why you sending me this dude
[06:31] <angryBeaver> cdubya, is that a good one?  My main problem with Gaim is that it doesn't send files
[06:31] <the> blanky:  He's doing it to me too
[06:31] <nelsmar> coudl someone send me one of those files please?
[06:31] <clb_> what was the command to set my locale? <something> setlocale
[06:31] <fangorious> gee_cee0: I think it's funnier if newbie is spelled wrong, it's like they're so green they'd have to spend some time to get up to being a newbie
[06:31] <gee_cee0> fang: lol
[06:31] <nelsmar> i can tel you were it is 0.o im going mad crzy
[06:31] <_native_> who the F*** just did that tryin to send me files i'll kill ya!
[06:31] <fangorious> quail_linux: what is that?
[06:31] <nelsmar> thats a HUGE mp3 file lol
[06:31] <blanky> the: lol he's dumb
[06:31] <blanky> bimberi and gee_cee0 : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/443216
[06:32] <orangerd> _native_, got it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52363
[06:32] <gee_cee0> 1 sec blanky
[06:32] <cdubya> angryBeaver, just used if for a bit.....seemed to work fine.....but that was just a quick run through.
[06:32] <nelsmar> ill give someone a cookie if they send me their java plugin for firefox :D:D
[06:32] <blanky> gee_cee0, :)
[06:32] <encompass> IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST MONTH IN THE UBUNTU WORLD GOTO #UBUNTU-NEWBIE NOW!
[06:32] <the> _native_:  Where is the glxinfo configuration file located?
[06:32] <encompass> IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST MONTH IN THE UBUNTU WORLD GOTO #UBUNTU-NEWBIE NOW!
[06:32] <nelsmar> cmon is a free cookie!
[06:32] <crimsun> encompass: do not spam.
[06:32] <the> encompass:  I'm not a newbie but this is my first month. =D
[06:32] <blanky> encompass: I'm so happy I invented that :')
[06:32] <gee_cee0> encompass: its my first month :)
[06:33] <Anfaenger> n8 and thx for ur support
[06:33] <encompass> IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST MONTH IN THE UBUNTU WORLD GOTO #UBUNTU-NEWBIE NOW!
[06:33] <slide> hrm, is there no way to get thunderbird to just show an icon in the tray?
[06:33] <the> encompass:  stfu
[06:33] <clb_> what was the command to set my locale? <something> setlocale
[06:33] <chapium> I CANT STOP YELLING!!
[06:33] <nelsmar> encompass stop the spam
[06:33] <blanky> operators do /topic Official Ubuntu support channel | Documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com/ | Support options: http://ubuntu.com/support | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | IRC Info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat | If you have to ask how to use dapper, don't. | No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper. | If you're a newbie, join #ubuntu-newbie !
[06:33] <fangorious> encompass: dude, quit shouting
[06:33] <the> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!!!
[06:33] <the> rofl
[06:33] <fangorious> thanks blanky, I was just about to suggest adding it to the topic
[06:33] <_native_> who tried to do the .mp3 a sec ago ?
[06:33] <_native_> ill accept it.
[06:34] <crimsun> what precisely is #ubuntu-newbie?
[06:34] <blanky> :)
[06:34] <blanky> hey guys, guess what, wine 0.9.2 came out in the repos!
[06:34] <encompass> for people that are new to ubuntu
[06:34] <bimberi> blanky: pastebin looks ok however i'm fairly sure you should use /dev/hda
[06:34] <fangorious> nelsmar: don't you need the rest of the jre, not just the .so? and why can't you just download the jre?
[06:34] <encompass> like fresh installs
[06:34] <blanky> bimberi: yeah? :( I think it's hdb bud, I've always ran it from ubuntu
[06:34] <nelsmar> fangorious i have the jre... sdk and others but it wont work, something is wrong with my .so file
[06:34] <crimsun> encompass: I've not heard of it being sanctioned or blessed
[06:34] <blanky> bimberi: does that mean it installed?
[06:34] <gee_cee0> blanky: i think its hda
[06:34] <blanky> guys cairo with clearlooks looks pimp!
[06:35] <blanky> hda? okay fine, I'll try it
[06:35] <fangorious> nelsmar: you sure you linked the right one?
[06:35] <nelsmar> fangorious i just need libjavaplugin.so or libjavaplugin_oji.so to fix my browser
[06:35] <blanky> what's the difference anyways
[06:35] <nelsmar> wat you have to link? i thought you could cp it....
[06:35] <the> Does anyone know where the configuration file for the glx stuff is?
[06:35] <bimberi> blanky: it should be hda because that will be the disk that the bios searches for a bootloader
[06:35] <blanky> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:35] <steven_> anyone here using ventrilo?
[06:35] <fangorious> nelsmar: i've always symlinked it
[06:35] <blanky> nah nevermind
[06:35] <gee_cee0> blanky: either that or hd0
[06:35] <blanky> bimberi: o!
[06:35] <blanky> glad you told me before I restarted, phew
[06:35] <gee_cee0> lol
[06:35] <chapium> what on earth is ubuntu doing configuring for so long
[06:36] <blanky> gee_cee0, bimberi : I re-run the program with hda instead, same output, okay? :D
[06:36] <encompass> chapium what in redmond is windows configuring for so ling?
[06:36] <bimberi> blanky: yep, that should be fine
[06:36] <gee_cee0> yea
[06:36] <nelsmar> hey i just got an error w00t that will get me there brb :P might have it now
[06:36] <blanky> :) thanks guys! *big blanky hug*
[06:36] <blanky> hey guys wine 0.9.2 came out in repos's!
[06:37] <chapium> it has to help count the $$
[06:37] <bimberi> blanky: ha, np :)
[06:37] <gee_cee0> blanky: np mate
[06:37] <the> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:37] <fangorious> pixelmonkey: so back to my suspend/audio problem. your install does or does not user /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh (the one setup by ubuntu's installer) to hibernate?
[06:38] <the> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:38] <CaptainMorgan> omg.. i just figured out how to mount my Windows partition to access everything on there... that's fantastic.... like being a virgin again...
[06:38] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[06:38] <fangorious> CaptainMorgan: there was nothing great about being a virgin
[06:38] <the> CaptainMorgan:  Omfg I didn't do that like right when I started it up. lol
[06:38] <lblue> I just downloaded a mysql rpm from mysql.com. Then used alien -k mysql.rpm Then dpkg -i mysql.deb
[06:38] <lblue> Mysql won't start
[06:39] <lblue> any thoughts on where to look for an error message?
[06:39] <fangorious> lblue: why not just install from the ubuntu repo?
[06:39] <the> fangorious:  That'd be too easy.
[06:39] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I need to be more specific... it's like being a virgin and it's your first time with that hot piece of poontang... whooooppeeee!!!
[06:39] <encompass> fangorious how is homestar
[06:39] <encompass> haha
[06:40] <lblue> because the mysql build in the repo is broken. PHP5 inserts using bind_param fail
[06:40] <fangorious> encompass: he's at the zoo, admiring the huuuuuudge
[06:40] <blanky> !ubuntu-newbie
[06:40] <ubotu> blanky: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:40] <blanky> sure, *clears throat*
[06:40] <lblue> using the mysqli extension
[06:40] <szehne> i just posted a classic screenshot, look if you want... http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/333/9/5/microsoft__s_mistake_by_buulian.png
[06:40] <lblue> I had the same problem on Mandrake
[06:40] <nelsmar> gahh
[06:40] <nelsmar> i have nothign but problems.... ever
[06:40] <lblue> Mandriva 2006
[06:40] <rosso> I am trying to understand iptables. As I was looking through "synaptic' I came across a premade script 'ipkunfu'. Is that any good, basically for a noob? Also, since I am using gnome, am I able to use the guarddog frontend since it's KDE based? Firestarter is not going to work for me
[06:40] <lblue> then installed a binary from mysql.com and the problem went away
[06:40] <fangorious> nelsmar: that's what desktop linux is all about ;)
[06:41] <polpak> rosso, why do you need (or think you need) a firewall?
[06:41] <mrkoje> rosso: why wouldn't you want a firewall?
[06:41] <rosso> Well, on the forum I was told using a broadband connection, its a good idea
[06:41] <encompass> polpak so people like me don't break his computer cause it would be funny
[06:41] <t1n_m4n> how do I change the default font and background color in my xterm? white bg with lime font is starting to hurt my eyes...
[06:41] <lblue> any thoughts on where to look for a mysql error?
[06:42] <fangorious> lblue: /var/log/mysql ?
[06:42] <polpak> encompass, there is a reason that ubuntu doesn't install a firewall by default
[06:42] <mrkoje> polpak: why wouldn't you want a firewal
[06:42] <fangorious> mrkoje: because if you're just at home behind a NAT, you don't much need one
[06:42] <johanbr> Hi. I recently got a Creative USB mp3 player. When I unmount the drive, the display on the player says something like "You did not safely disconnect the drive. Run scandisk from your PC." and then I am unable to do anything with the player, until I take out the batteries and put them back in. Any ideas? I tried running sync before unmounting, but that didn't help.
[06:42] <rosso> is this a channel about hacking or a support channel?
[06:42] <polpak> rosso, it's a support
[06:42] <mrkoje> polpak: That is rediculous... just because Linux is "more secure" doesn't mean that its 100% secure
[06:42] <lblue> I thought /var/log/mysql would be a good place too but sadly there are no error logs there.
[06:43] <polpak> rosso, but you don't need a firewall
[06:43] <nelsmar> fangorious try kernel with ubuntu.... i spent 36 hours
[06:43] <mrkoje> fangorious: true, to some extent
[06:43] <lblue> Only files named mysql-bin.0000016
[06:43] <chapium> the lines have been blurred
[06:43] <rosso> could you tell me why please?
[06:43] <crimsun> lblue: mysql is a daemon, look in the appropriate log.
[06:43] <mrkoje> fangorous: However, if you have a program on your computer then connects to the outside? Whats going to stop that? The NAT isn't!
[06:43] <polpak> rosso,  in ubuntu none of the software listens to the outside world
[06:44] <polpak> mrkoje, most firwalls aren't (by default) configured to block outside traffic
[06:44] <polpak> mrkoje, nor would most desktop users want it to
[06:44] <rosso> I understand, how come I can't do file transfers or torrent files?
[06:44] <MagicFab> Ubuntu Trivia: how many languages are supported by U. ?
[06:44] <nelsmar> linux vs windows in frustration
[06:44] <nelsmar> windows... ahhh shit ig euss ic an reinstall... linux w00t i can TRY to fix it
[06:44] <slashx1896> hey, does the bit torrent program that comes with ubuntu work with any torrent files?
[06:44] <polpak> rosso, did you install a firewall already?
[06:44] <rosso> no
[06:44] <polpak> slashx1896, yes
[06:44] <mrkoje> polpak: What kind of firewalls are you talking about? Windows software firewalls?
[06:44] <rosso> no
[06:44] <angryBeaver> slashx1896, yes
[06:45] <slashx1896> k
[06:45] <Shadowline> rosso: did you open a port on your router ? I assume you have a built in firewall I bet.
[06:45] <polpak> mrkoje, no I'm talking about the gui configuration tools for iptables
[06:45] <the> How do I do .rpm files?
[06:45] <fangorious> slashx1896: it should, although you'll need to make sure the port you've configured your client for can get back to your machine
[06:45] <encompass> who is the admin here?  I have a personal question... can you join ubuntu-newbie fro a moment?
[06:45] <rosso> This is a stand alone PC, no router
[06:45] <polpak> rosso, do you have a DSL firewall/router?
[06:45] <slashx1896> jw, cause ive tryed to dl 4 different albums from... isohunt.com , and none are working
[06:45] <rosso> cable
[06:45] <polpak> rosso, then bit torrent should work
[06:45] <chapium> dang you ubuntu.. finish configuring!!!!
[06:45] <gee_cee0> rosso: whats the problem?
[06:45] <the> How do I do .rpm files?
[06:45] <polpak> rosso, in a terminal type sudo iptables -L
[06:46] <polpak> rosso, and paste the result to pastebin
[06:46] <mrkoje> polpak: there not configured becasue it would be a pain if everyone that installed ubuntu, who doesn't know anything about iptables, couldn't get on the net.
[06:46] <rosso> it doesn't. I was told I need to allow access, but how?
[06:46] <chapium> I DONT NEED PUNJABI FONTS
[06:46] <slashx1896> well i dont know, when i download stuff from torrentbox.com it works fine, but when i download from isohunt.com it doesnt
[06:46] <sampan> lol chapium
[06:46] <fangorious> how can I find out what's preventing me from unloading my audio module?
[06:46] <mrkoje> polpak: same reason wifi routers do not have a password or encryption enabled by default
[06:46] <fangorious> chapium: I was wondering about that
[06:46] <mrkoje> polpak: But that doesn't mean its safe
[06:46] <the> How do I do .rpm files?
[06:47] <chapium> do/
[06:47] <polpak> mrkoje, go to ubuntu security forums
[06:47] <chapium> ?
[06:47] <cdubya> the, apt2rpm?
[06:47] <the> chapium:  Like..uncompress or whatever?
[06:47] <rosso> Where did you want me to post it?
[06:47] <the> cdubya:  just a .rpm file
[06:47] <mrkoje> polpak: Ok, but don't adovacte not using a firewall, that is just insane, I don't care what operating system your using.
[06:47] <mrkoje> *advocate
[06:47] <fangorious> mrkoje: red hat's default install sets up a firewall that allows you to access the net just fine, but it keeps you farely well hidden from the net
[06:47] <Shadowline> the: use "alien", you'll have to install it first, it'll convert the rpm to a .deb file wich you can then install
[06:47] <polpak> mrkoje, there is no reason to install a firewall on ubuntu unless you are wanting to block outbound traffic or you want to restrict access to a listening daemon you set up to specific users
[06:48] <rosso> polpak, Where did you want me to post it?
[06:48] <fangorious> mrkoje: but it also makes smb/nfs on your local lan a pain to access
[06:48] <p07r0457> I know in RedHat I can set "peerdns=no", but where can I acheive similar results in ubuntu?  I need to use DHCP, but NOT let it overwrite my custom resolv.conf file
[06:48] <polpak> rosso, pastebin
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> how do you umount if device is busy?
[06:48] <the> Shadowline:  alien -???
[06:48] <mrkoje> fangorious: I know, I had to deal with it
[06:48] <rosso> whats that
[06:48] <rosso> remember Im a noob
[06:48] <encompass> does anyone know who admins this room?
[06:48] <polpak> CaptainMorgan, you can't be "in" the directory when you umount it
[06:48] <Shadowline> the: look in synaptic
[06:48] <polpak> !paste
[06:48] <slashx1896> 'Problem connecting to tracker: timeout exeded' that only happens with files from isohunt.com ... but not torrent box, and torrent box doesnt have the music albums i want
[06:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:48] <polpak> hrm
[06:48] <crimsun> encompass: what's the issue?
[06:49] <the> Shadowline:  I mean the command line
[06:49] <polpak> rosso, www.pastebin.com
[06:49] <rosso> !paste
[06:49] <p07r0457> captainmorgan > use "lsof /mount/path" to determine what is using the device...  then try to resolve the issue
[06:49] <rosso> huh
[06:49] <rosso> oh
[06:49] <johanbr> p07r0457: There's an option to dhclient that lets you do that. Try "man dhclient.conf" .
[06:49] <Shadowline> the: it works in the command line
[06:49] <the> Shadowline:  I know how to get packages, =P
[06:49] <fangorious> p07r0457: know any equivalent commands to tell what's using a kernel module?
[06:50] <slashx1896> any other ideas for music?, if it works on one place then my computer should be fine or w/e
[06:50] <polpak> rosso, sorry, just pastebin.com
[06:50] <Shadowline> the: alien is a package converter, look here ---> http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:50] <the> Shadowline:  Then after it's into a deb what do I do?
[06:50] <admredeslinux> hi frind
[06:50] <fangorious> slashx1896: maybe their tracker is down
[06:50] <CaptainMorgan> sweet
[06:50] <t1n_m4n> how do I change default xterm settings?
[06:50] <slashx1896> didnt think of that, probbaly
[06:50] <slashx1896> ugh
[06:50] <mrkoje> polpak: While Ubuntu may not have certain services running by default, if a user adds a service that listens, for example Apache, the user then opens a port on his *Ubuntu machine that can be directly accessed. Provided that the user in question is directly connected to the internet.
[06:50] <admredeslinux> hello from CHILE
[06:50] <Shadowline> the: use "dpkg -i <packagename>.deb"
[06:50] <admredeslinux> hola!!
[06:50] <mrkoje> Polpak: It's just not good practice.
[06:50] <gee_cee0> shadowline
[06:51] <chapium> hola amigo
[06:51] <fangorious> como estas?
[06:51] <gee_cee0> is that how u install .deb?
[06:51] <the> Shadowline:  It didn't make a .deb it made a directory
[06:51] <Shadowline> gee_cee0: yes
[06:51] <mrkoje> hola chapium, como estas tu
[06:51] <gee_cee0> for some reason it didnt work for me
[06:51] <damian_> Question guys! I want to share my linux printer with windows, how do you do that?
[06:51] <gee_cee0> shadowline: i cant seem to install .deb
[06:51] <admredeslinux> algun chileno por ahi
[06:51] <Shadowline> the: what are you trying to install ?
[06:51] <chapium> muy bien, gracias. Y tu?
[06:51] <fangorious> estudio espanol este semestre, pero no hablo muy bien
[06:51] <CaptainMorgan> wait... you can't mount an NTFS for read/write??
[06:51] <nelsmar> YES I GOT IT YOU CAN ALL LICK MY....
[06:51] <nelsmar> i spnet hours on this
[06:51] <gee_cee0> shadowline: no specifics, just general .deb files
[06:51] <nelsmar> IT WORKS
[06:51] <polpak> mrkoje, if a user adds a process (say apache) they should know enough to enable their firewall
[06:51] <AlwaysIcey> Hi there everyone
[06:51] <nelsmar> this time i didnt remove link to in the link name
[06:51] <Shadowline> gee_cee0: no idea
[06:51] <nelsmar> lol
[06:51] <gee_cee0> shadowline: how would i run the installed package then
[06:51] <the> Shadowline:  fglrx_4_1_0-8.19.10.rpm
[06:52] <gee_cee0> after installing
[06:52] <johanbr> t1n_m4n: in ~/.Xresources. Try googling for "xterm xresources".
[06:52] <polpak> mrkoje, assuming they even want it to firewall their apache connection
[06:52] <damian_> hello???
[06:52] <polpak> rosso, did you paste the output?
[06:52] <nelsmar> i didnt want to use windows for trading.... my streams come in java 0.o
[06:52] <p0ke> CaptainMorgan:  u can definetely have rw access to ntfs
[06:52] <gee_cee0> shadowline: ok heres an example: limewire
[06:52] <rosso> yes, but it wants me to amend something
[06:52] <damian_> how do I share my linux printer with windows?
[06:52] <admredeslinux> yo si puedo montar escribir en NTFS
[06:52] <fangorious> CaptainMorgan: i think there's some wrapper to use the Windows' ntfs driver, but the included open source driver doesn't support write, as it would most likely screw up your partition
[06:52] <mrkoje> polpak: While I agree with you :) I remember a time when I was a curious user and opened a lot of ports. Having an extra layer of protection is a darn good thing.
[06:52] <CaptainMorgan> the ubuntu guids on only lists read-only
[06:53] <nelsmar> linux java is bulky, anyone elsea gree?
[06:53] <CaptainMorgan> hm..
[06:53] <gee_cee0> shadowline: limewire-free_4.9.37-0_i386.deb
[06:53] <Shadowline> the: dcc me the file
[06:53] <polpak> nelsmar, no more than any other kind of java
[06:53] <admredeslinux> I can write in the partition NTFS!!!!
[06:53] <mrkoje> polpak: Im not sure anyone would actually want to firewall -p80 but... it goes for other services too, like 23.. or even 22
[06:53] <admredeslinux> yeah!!
[06:53] <damian_> why nobody answers me?
[06:53] <the> Shadowline:  It's 12 MB.
[06:53] <p0ke> install the ntfstools er sumthn i forget what its called
[06:53] <CaptainMorgan> damian you'll need to install printer and it's as easy as apple pie
[06:53] <mrkoje> polpak: ubuntu does have ssh open by default!
[06:53] <shekhar> hello can someone tell me the lines to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to read from breezy cd... my system is buggered
[06:53] <Shadowline> gee_cee0: dpkg -i <package>
[06:53] <fangorious> why did you put that 'si' in there?
[06:53] <chapium> anyone familiar with vmware know if you can hide the bar at the top of the screen?
[06:53] <Shadowline> the: ouch
[06:54] <rosso> polpak, did I do it correctly?
[06:54] <polpak> mrkoje, no, not on the outside ip
[06:54] <nelsmar> polpak i thin its jsut some fonts but java.... oh man in linux everything is HUGE... my streaming charts look the same as windows but my quote streamer... oh hell no lol
[06:54] <AlwaysIcey> Does the printer installer work with networked printers?
[06:54] <johanbr> damian_: Either configure your linux box to do windows printing with samba (don't know much about that), or install tcp/ip printing on windows and configure cups to broadcast to the local network.
[06:54] <gee_cee0> shadowline: after that cant seem to run it
[06:54] <Shadowline> the: where'd you get it ?
[06:54] <mrkoje> polpak: my mistake... not ubuntu...
[06:54] <polpak> rosso, did it give you a number?
[06:54] <Shadowline> gee_cee0: I don't use limewire, I use FrostWire
[06:54] <mrkoje> Surb: Your in Austin?
[06:54] <damian_> I have my printer installed in ubuntu already, now I want windows to see the printer so I can install it
[06:54] <polpak> rosso, or a url?
[06:54] <gee_cee0> shadowline: oh...
[06:54] <fangorious> i miss austin
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> damian whata?
[06:55] <mrkoje> damian_: You will have to set up a Samba printer share
[06:55] <nelsmar> DAMNIT
[06:55] <nelsmar> i fix java
[06:55] <gee_cee0> shadowline: i ended up installing from a .bin
[06:55] <nelsmar> and now i cant click my computer lol
[06:55] <damian_> ok, thanks
[06:55] <admredeslinux> he dude
[06:55] <CaptainMorgan> fangorious you recommend a wrapper ?
[06:55] <gee_cee0> shadowline: was lucky to find it
[06:55] <polpak> nelsmar, did you install "sun java" ?
[06:55] <polpak> nelsmar, or are you using the non sun one?
[06:55] <fangorious> damian_: System->Administration->Printing, i think you can specify to share a printer via samba thru that
[06:55] <admredeslinux> someone configure a video capture in linux?
[06:55] <rosso> no, it wants me to submit a correction. But it doesn't say what needs corrected
[06:55] <AlwaysIcey> Potentially stupid question, but what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu linux?
[06:55] <polpak> rosso, did you put a name in?
[06:55] <nelsmar> sun java :D
[06:56] <p07r0457> gnome or kde as default gui
[06:56] <rosso> yes Ill try again
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> alwaysicey essentially - yes
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[06:56] <DaddyCadd> rosso: gnome or kde
[06:56] <admredeslinux> exacttly!!!
[06:56] <nelsmar> nautilus is taking crap if i click somethign to open other htan something on my desktop... it donest open
[06:56] <polpak> AlwaysIcey, one uses gnome, one uses kde
[06:56] <AlwaysIcey> Ahhhh.. Ok.
[06:56] <fangorious> CaptainMorgan: no, I recomment having a an etx2|3 or vfat partition to share between windows and linux
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> j/k
[06:56] <nelsmar> i wonder if it is my prelink or something
[06:56] <admredeslinux> I like GNOME for ever!!!
[06:56] <mt_holden_ss> someone help me, trying to work out how to get mp3s workin
[06:56] <p07r0457> lol
[06:56] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: using what app?
[06:56] <admredeslinux> prelink is rules!!!
[06:56] <mt_holden_ss> how do i install .deb files too
[06:56] <p07r0457> I like kde, but I use gnome because it seems more stable
[06:56] <nelsmar> mt_holden_ss search automatrix on the forums
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> I think I have a exx... not sure about vfat tho
[06:56] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:56] <DaddyCadd> gnome is way better
[06:56] <AlwaysIcey> Gottcha.. Currently, all I've played around with are Xandros, Debian, and Fedora.
[06:56] <polpak> mt_holden_ss, read the restricted formats guide
[06:56] <gee_cee0> mt_holden: i was just asking shadowline that
[06:56] <mrkoje> mt_holden: your getting the good old "missing a plugin eh?
[06:56] <nelsmar> and use the top audio check box the firs one works great, takes no more htan 5 mins
[06:57] <polpak> !restricted
[06:57] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:57] <rosso> Yes, but I don't know why it won't take
[06:57] <crimsun> nelsmar: don't recommend automatix; it has fundamental packaging issues.
[06:57] <polpak> !paste
[06:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:57] <nelsmar> 0.o but it gets mp3 to work lol, i couldnt get it to work...
[06:57] <polpak> rosso, try  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ then
[06:57] <nelsmar> mp3 formats worked great... the rest ack! i dont touch
[06:57] <rosso> Gnome, sorry
[06:57] <nelsmar> oh microsoft fonts i used it for tha ttoo
[06:57] <mt_holden_ss> ive got 10.04
[06:57] <p0ke> shekhar:  deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[06:57] <mt_holden_ss> its a little older version
[06:57] <p07r0457> any idea what option it is under dhclient.conf...  I've tried modifying the "request" parameters to not include any hostname or nameserver information... but doesn't work
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> fangorious... would I need to coordinate mounting the etx2/3 and Windows.. transfer then us them through etx2/3 ?
[06:58] <fangorious> mt_holden_ss: install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:58] <nelsmar> hey anyone get this... kk apt get and download sources 2.6.12 k? i COPY my .config from my current kurnel(one that comes with ubuntu) over to the 2.6.12 ... i build and install them and now it says it cant find /dev/sda7(my root drrive on sata)
[06:58] <rosso> Now I have a number behind the URL. Is that the one?
[06:58] <mt_holden_ss> does the new release have mp3 support too? y should i download the new build
[06:58] <mt_holden_ss> and wat about skype dont know how to do that
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> speaking of mp3s...
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> non of mine were mounted
[06:58] <fangorious> CaptainMorgan: there's a closed source driver called Ext2 IFS for XP that I've found to work pretty well
[06:58] <B_166-ER-X> i cannot find where to put 'on' the Auto-accept for dcc files, on Xchat ?
[06:58] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: Skype is not free to modify and distribute.
[06:58] <nelsmar> what is skype? i dont know that
[06:59] <nelsmar> someone help me with this kernel? it doesnt make ANY sense to me
[06:59] <polpak> rosso, did you try  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:59] <mrkoje> B_166-ER-X why would you want to auto accept?
[06:59] <mt_holden_ss> wat about audio recording programs?
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> nelsmar - report to the general
[06:59] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: audacity, ardour
[06:59] <B_166-ER-X> mrkoje,  to get files why away ?
[06:59] <fangorious> mt_holden_ss: i think there's a good one called audacity
[06:59] <nelsmar> why not the captain?
[06:59] <AlwaysIcey> Auto accept is bad.. Especially, if you're still on a Windows box.
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[06:59] <nelsmar> :D
[06:59] <crimsun> nelsmar: what are you doing with your kernel?
[06:59] <nelsmar> just driving me mad...
[06:59] <nelsmar> *types it gain*
[06:59] <admredeslinux> tell me my frinds what do yo think about the ReiserFS File system ?
[07:00] <mt_holden_ss> i cant get audcaity to work
[07:00] <B_166-ER-X> i'm Xchat on ubuntu and i want auto accept, knowingly..
[07:00] <mrkoje> b_166-ER-X: I am just being a security nut today! YES auto accept is bad
[07:00] <mt_holden_ss> i downloaded the linux version of audacity it aint workin
[07:00] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: close all audio apps and stop esd first
[07:00] <mt_holden_ss> esd?
[07:00] <nelsmar> kk im buliding my own kernel i want a lean one... doesnt work SO i download from synaptic 2.6.12 sources and COPY the ubuntu .config file over to the sources and compile... install and it doesnt boot i get an error about not locating /dev/sda7 it cant find it(my root mount on sata)
[07:00] <rosso> 5215
[07:00] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[07:00] <B_166-ER-X> i 'HAD' it auto accep,t but i cannot find it in this reinstall
[07:01] <p0ke> anyone using xubuntu ..it has xfce ..but installing fluxbox is even better
[07:01] <nelsmar> crimsun , any idea's?
[07:01] <AlwaysIcey> I'll install it on my Windows box, and see if I can find it.
[07:01] <crimsun> nelsmar: huh?
[07:01] <polpak> rosso, what kind of cable modem do you have?
[07:01] <nelsmar> i have never had a problem compiling a kernel... jsut the normal oops i forgot my video drivers... but normaly jsut find out what you removed... i didnt remove ANYTHIGN
[07:01] <slashx1896> all my friends say to get rid of ubuntu it sux and windows is better i think different lol
[07:01] <admredeslinux> for change windows adminstrador e.g "openbox --replace"
[07:01] <admredeslinux> ;)
[07:01] <mpma> I'm having a hard time with ndiswrapper & wlan0!  It was working great and then it stopped...  I was getting modprobe insertion errors, I fixed those by reinstalling via apt-get, and now I'm getting "no such device errors" when I run sudo ifup wlan0...   any ideas?  I've googled my brain out on this one and nothing's working
[07:01] <the> Shadowline:  Uhm..the ATI website...somewhere
[07:01] <nelsmar> you asked what i was doing with my kernel so i typed it again(3rd time this login lol)
[07:01] <p07r0457> any ideas on my DHCP issue?
[07:01] <mt_holden_ss> i got sound setup server started
[07:01] <the> Shadowline:  I have to go though. I'll just do OpenGL work on the school computers
[07:02] <rosso> its a surfboard
[07:02] <crimsun> nelsmar: why do you need to compile a lean kernel?
[07:02] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: Audacity is in the Ubuntu repos - you didn't have to download it from elsewhere
[07:02] <rosso> and using VoIP
[07:02] <mt_holden_ss> is audacity in 10.04? i havnt got the latest os
[07:02] <nelsmar> crimsun i dont have pci hotswap.... why woudl i want that bulking up my kernel? i figure remove everythign i can that i really will never have ... so that i can lean out my computer
[07:02] <fangorious> anyone know how to reinitialize sound without rebooting?
[07:02] <nelsmar> leaner the better it runs...
[07:02] <slashx1896> What exactly is flubox?
[07:02] <anavim> haha, removing gdm allows me to log-in straight to fluxbox and skip gdm  :D
[07:02] <crimsun> nelsmar: the Ubuntu kernel is modularised as much as possible.
[07:02] <anavim> oh, and makes the default fluxbox startup scripts work also
[07:02] <AlwaysIcey> Well, slashx, in the end it's a matter of preference.  Windows still has a lot more softare built for it.  But, Linux has it's good points too.
[07:02] <polpak> rosso, well, there is nothing on your computer which prevents people from connecting to you
[07:03] <p0ke> slashx1896: very lite window manager
[07:03] <nelsmar> crimsun i still dont want all the stuff thats there lol i dont have an ati video card...... its a laptop im not GOING to have one, ide like to remove that
[07:03] <crimsun> nelsmar: CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI=m
[07:03] <polpak> rosso, you're having trouble with bittorrent correct?
[07:03] <crimsun> nelsmar: dude, those are ALL modules
[07:03] <nelsmar> 0.o
[07:03] <crimsun> nelsmar: they're not even loaded.
[07:03] <nelsmar> i dont want them there lol
[07:03] <nelsmar> i thought modules still slow down the loading modules or something
[07:03] <rosso> Yes, mainly
[07:03] <nelsmar> larger module map? something?
[07:03] <nelsmar> still the fact i cannot compile a new kernel?
[07:03] <crimsun> nelsmar: if they're not even loaded, why do you care?
[07:03] <nelsmar> cause i want to be able to compile my own kernel XD
[07:03] <p0ke> if you uncomment the line in universal repository ..and then run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop wdm
[07:04] <fangorious> nelsmar: they shouldn't do anything except take extra disk space
[07:04] <slashx1896> alwaysicey, yeah, since i just started with ubuntu i cant do as much as i could before on windows (ex. download songs, i only cna dl albums (torrents))
[07:04] <p0ke> if you like wdm that is
[07:04] <fangorious> ubuntu does load a bunch of unnecessary modules, though
[07:04] <vbgunz> I just looked in the help for sessions startups ordering... How do orders work with startup scripts? From lowest to highest they execute in order? Is it in reverse?
[07:04] <polpak> nelsmar, the fact is you aren't proficient enough to compile your own kernel. If you really want to do it read the kernel compiling howto's
[07:04] <crimsun> nelsmar: you _can_. You just need to do what Ubuntu does.
[07:04] <nelsmar> still the point, why can i NOT compile a new kernel... it doesnt make sense?
[07:04] <mt_holden_ss> join #new/
[07:04] <rosso> So why wouldn't I need a firewall then?
[07:04] <crimsun> fangorious: ...like?
[07:04] <mpma> crimsun I'm getting wlan0 'no such interface' errors when I 'ifup' it was working previously... any ideas?
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> i'm Xchat on ubuntu and i want auto accept, knowingly..can someone help ?
[07:04] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: if you're still running 5.04, you can update to Ubuntu 5.10 fairly simply
[07:04] <polpak> rosso, because nobody can connect to your computer anyway
[07:04] <nelsmar> polpak ive made 50+ kernels from scratch.... this time i just cOPIED the old .config from the standard ubntu and compiled i removed NOTHIGN and it didnt boot
[07:04] <polpak> rosso, you aren't listening on any ports
[07:04] <crimsun> nelsmar: i.e., create the appropriate initramfs, or skip it completely and build it all in
[07:04] <Madpilot> !tell mt_holden_ss about breezyupgrade
[07:04] <nelsmar> i didnt change anythign at all in the kernel....
[07:04] <slashx1896> Gnutella doesnt work for me.. i cant find anysongs, and while running gnutella, no one else connected to my wireless internet can get on the interent, and i cant do anything but use gnutella
[07:05] <rosso> no, I thought that was why bittorrent didnt work
[07:05] <fangorious> joystick modules, sony_acpi, pcc_acpi
[07:05] <Kensey> nelsmar: have you compiled kernels on Ubuntu before?
[07:05] <nelsmar> if you dont change you shouldnt have a problem with your hard drive being found....
[07:05] <crimsun> nelsmar: you CANNOT expect such a kernel to boot. We use initramfs.
[07:05] <nelsmar> kensey no i havnt
[07:05] <nelsmar> crimsun what is initrams? that intitrd thing?
[07:05] <polpak> rosso, what doesn't work about bittorrent? can you connect to the tracker?
[07:05] <crimsun> nelsmar: they're related, yes.
[07:05] <Kensey> did you pull a known-good configuration from some system without Ubuntu?
[07:05] <rosso> no
[07:05] <nelsmar> crimsun, i built kernels wiht initrd 0.o i got ONE to work and it took 6+ hours to get it to boot
[07:06] <fangorious> crimsun: last time i checked, ubuntu loaded about twice as many modules as fedora on the same hardware. it may have improevd since the, though
[07:06] <nelsmar> and now my FN keys dont work on my laptop all i removed was hotswap
[07:06] <chapium> anyone have any suggestions for the rhythembox radio stations?
[07:06] <chapium> it seems to be kaput
[07:06] <nelsmar> pci hotswap*
[07:06] <crimsun> fangorious: then blacklist them, and they won't load on next boot.
[07:06] <mpma> when ifup complains "No such Device" where is it checking to see if a device exists???  I lost wifi functionality!
[07:06] <mt_holden_ss> with the new package does it include audacity and mp3 support?
[07:06] <fangorious> crimsun: i haven't noticed any performance problems, so i never bothered to trim it down.
[07:06] <Kensey> I compiled my first kernel on Ubuntu recently (2.6.10 on Hoary) and after futzing with initrd for a few minutes I said "screw it" and just compiled ext2/ext3 and ide in :)
[07:06] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: not by default, no.
[07:07] <fangorious> crimsun: was just making a casual observance
[07:07] <nelsmar> kensey so your kernel worked or no?
[07:07] <Kensey> yep
[07:07] <polpak> rosso, well my guess is it's a problem with the tracker you're trying to connect to
[07:07] <nelsmar> myn wont... its crazy... i changed NOTHIGN from the curent kernel i basicly recompiled the kerne with NO changes... and it didnt work
[07:07] <AlwaysIcey> Ok, BG, in Preferences, under Network there should be File Transfers.  In there, is a check box for auto accept file offers (at least on X-Chat 2.61 for Windows)
[07:07] <polpak> rosso, your computer seems fine
[07:07] <varsendagger> mt_holden_ss, just got here what package are you talking about?
[07:07] <Kensey> nelsmar: did you tell grub to use the existing initrd?
[07:07] <mt_holden_ss> the latest package thats available
[07:08] <crimsun> nelsmar: that's because they're modules in the config, and you didn't generate the appropriate initrd
[07:08] <rosso> hmm, what about DCC through gaim?
[07:08] <nelsmar> kensey i used debian package manger to do grub and everything
[07:08] <polpak> rosso, and even if you had blocked incomming traffic  you'd still be able to DL from the tracker
[07:08] <nelsmar> crimsun how did i not?
[07:08] <crimsun> mt_holden_ss: if they're already installed, they'll be upgraded already.
[07:08] <polpak> rosso, DCC should work
[07:08] <nelsmar> gosh nautilus broke :(
[07:08] <Kensey> does your grub config file have an initrd line in the section for your new kernel?
[07:08] <crimsun> nelsmar: the _default config_ has them as modules. If you didn't change _anything_, then the initrd wouldn't have been generated correctly
[07:08] <mt_holden_ss> mmm ill just download the latest .iso and re-formatt
[07:09] <rosso> it doesn't, I just wasn't as conscerned with it
[07:09] <fangorious> if 'modprobe -r' says it can't unload the module because it's in use, where should I look to find out what's using it?
[07:09] <nelsmar> crimsun i guess i dont understand
[07:09] <nelsmar> if i didnt change anything... how would the initrd be wrong?
[07:09] <nelsmar> :(
[07:09] <crimsun> nelsmar: it wouldn't have been generated. period. no initrd + modularised fs support = no boot.
[07:09] <Kensey> anyway my real reason for showing up tonight is, how do I resize titlebars in GNOME?  is it theme/theme-engine dependent?  is it even possible?
[07:09] <nelsmar> it generates a initrd
[07:09] <mt_holden_ss> is ist possible to have ubuntu on one hard drive and xp on the same hard drive?
[07:10] <nelsmar> and puts it in the boot dir
[07:10] <fangorious> crimsun: i'm asking beecause I don't have sound after resuming from suspend (but resuming from hibernate works just fine) not because I'm trying to trim the load
[07:10] <rosso> Do you have any suggestions that may help?
[07:10] <crimsun> fangorious: known acpi issue
[07:10] <Kensey> mt_holden_ss: yep, my laptop boots that way
[07:10] <crimsun> fangorious: it'll help us if you file a bug report, of course
[07:10] <mt_holden_ss> can u explain how pls
[07:10] <crimsun> fangorious: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[07:10] <nelsmar> crimsun there is a initrd being generated and isntalled
[07:10] <fangorious> mt_holden_ss: yes, you just set up multiple partitions
[07:10] <fangorious> crimsun: will do
[07:10] <mt_holden_ss> start a new channel so u can tell me in detail, last time i did it it i lost everything
[07:11] <nelsmar> hell i even did one of the how to's but its basicly same thing im doing so it made no difference
[07:11] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[07:11] <ubotu> [dualboot]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:11] <jbroome> !u
[07:11] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[07:11] <crimsun> nelsmar: it's not the correct one, as I've been stating all along
[07:11] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: see ubotu above ^^^
[07:11] <fangorious> crimsun: i was hoping i could track down the difference myself to file a report along with the workaround, though
[07:11] <mt_holden_ss> thanks
[07:11] <nelsmar> crimsun how is it the wrong one? that just donest make sense
[07:11] <slashx1896> ubotu freaks me out sometiems... lol
[07:11] <ubotu> slashx1896: What?
[07:11] <Kensey> it's a little involved, but basically you need to resize the XP filesystem (*not* the partition yet, the filesystem that lives on it), then repartition the disk so you have a new blank partition for Ubuntu.
[07:11] <slashx1896> o.o
[07:11] <mpma> If I followed the wiki guide on compiling a debian of the latest ndiswrapper and then tried to remove it via apt-get will that work?
[07:11] <crimsun> nelsmar: sigh. Please read what we do with initramfs.
[07:12] <Madpilot> slashx1896: the bot is coming for you...
[07:12] <slashx1896> :o
[07:12] <nelsmar> where? i just dont see how... if i gnerate an initrd..... with the make-kpkg command... its wrong and wont work?
[07:12] <Kensey> and yeah, there's the potential to lose everything on the disk if you do it wrong.  I've done it, and recovered from it.  Not a fun day at chez Kensey :)
[07:12] <crimsun> nelsmar: please read what I just typed.
[07:12] <nelsmar> im using make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-abuild kernel_image modules_image
[07:12] <nelsmar> whats wrong with that?
[07:13] <nelsmar> where do i read on initframfs?
[07:13] <logical_mark> Hey does anyone in here know of a good irc chat for webmasters?
[07:13] <crimsun> nelsmar: please read what I just typed.
[07:13] <cornflake> does anyone know wut component the start menu for gnome is called?
[07:13] <crimsun> nelsmar: the mkinitramfs man page
[07:13] <mt_holden_ss> wat other free linux os are out ther
[07:13] <cornflake> !gnome
[07:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, gnome is The default desktop environment for the ubuntu system. see http://gnome.org for details.
[07:13] <varsendagger> mt_holden_ss, everyone is free
[07:13] <slashx1896> see! hes just wierd.. smart but wierd
[07:13] <Kensey> mt_holden_ss: a whole mess of them.  Hundreds at least.
[07:13] <nelsmar> i dont see why this doesnt work... i did what was in howto's its the same thing and myn doesnt work but theirs does, and why is it so much diff than other os's
[07:13] <AlwaysIcey> mt, there' re a bunch of them.  Fedora Core, Debian, Ubuntu, Xandros has a limted one, Mandriva, amongst others.
[07:14] <merc> mt_holden_ss: distrowatch.org(maybe.com) has a list of a LOT
[07:14] <nelsmar> i made a file with that ill look at it if my computer comes back :( nautilus broke
[07:14] <AlwaysIcey> http://www.linuxiso.org has a bunch
[07:14] <rosso> Well thanks for the help polpak, I appreciate it
[07:14] <varsendagger> mt_holden_ss, you should paly with some live cds too
[07:14] <mt_holden_ss> yeh ive played around with knoppix
[07:14] <p07r0457> any ideas on having DHCP not overwite resolv.conf?  I tried the "request" and "supercede" parameters, to no avail
[07:14] <mt_holden_ss> wat do u guys think is the best?
[07:15] <nelsmar> for live? i liked ubuntu XD lol
[07:15] <Madpilot> logical_mark: try #web here on freenode
[07:15] <p07r0457> ubuntu for ease of use, and gentoo for performance/cutting-eduge
[07:15] <sampan> best is a very ambiguous term
[07:15] <sampan> lots of different ways to "define" best :)
[07:15] <slashx1896> knoppix is evil.. i couldnt get interent on it lol, people in #knoppix didnt help me so i moved to ubuntu and now i gets me interent
[07:15] <slashx1896> id say ubuntu also
[07:15] <spikebike> actually I'm pondering gentoo vs ubuntu for a firewall
[07:15] <alekz> ipod are compatible with ubuntu ?
[07:15] <spikebike> any comments on which will be easy to upgrade?
[07:15] <nelsmar> i love my gentoo box i built a router using it a year ago....
[07:15] <nelsmar> and havnt touched dlinux since
[07:15] <jbroome> spikebike: obsd!
[07:15] <AlwaysIcey> Mandriva is one of the easier ones.  So is Xandros (especially if you have a lot of windows files you want to use).
[07:15] <nelsmar> it hasnt crashed since i installed it 0.o
[07:16] <mpma> I'm struggling with ndiswrapper and wifi... it was working now it isn't.... I'm getting "no such device" errors... is anyone familar with this?  should I just get a new wifi card?  any thoughts?  I installed ndiswrapper from source, via a debian as recommended on a wiki ubuntu page.... I'm not sure what the problem is...
[07:16] <Kensey> I've been very impressed by Ubuntu so far.
[07:16] <nelsmar> i used to have to reset my linksys router ever 8-36 hours
[07:16] <spikebike> jbr I have various reasons to not use obsd
[07:16] <nelsmar> ubuntu is great until you start messing with it.... the kernel is ridiculous
[07:16] <nelsmar> need to reboot :( computer not happy
[07:16] <Kensey> mpma: what kind of NDIS device?
[07:16] <jbroome> nelsmar: i did too.  and it usually needed to be reset when i wasn't home
[07:16] <varsendagger> hey do i have to register to use gnutella?
[07:16] <spikebike> vars no
[07:16] <logical_mark> Madpilot: thanks I will look at it
[07:16] <mpma> kensey my wifi card, an smc card that was previously working (prism chipset)
[07:17] <Kensey> hm
[07:17] <Kensey> are you sure it still actually works?  got another OS to test it on?
[07:17] <varsendagger> spikebike, i just started it up and tried to search and nothing, what kind o fsetup do i ahve to do?
[07:17] <mpma> kensey so you suspect maybe the hardware itself broke?  That's a brilliant idea
[07:18] <spikebike> vars might take awhile to get fully connect to the network
[07:18] <Kensey> other thing that occurs to me off the top of my head is, does ndiswrapper know what pciid the device is using?
[07:18] <spikebike> your firewall might be blocking it
[07:18] <B_166-ER-X> could someone send me a file , really anything, jsut to test my get dcc dialog
[07:18] <B_166-ER-X> please
[07:19] <varsendagger> spikebike, i am firewalled in what do i do?
[07:19] <drumline> anyone know of a console way to activate an interface?
[07:19] <B_166-ER-X> nice
[07:19] <p07r0457> ifup eth0
[07:19] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:19] <drumline> p07: do you know of the permanent way?   because the admin password doesn't come up when I try to go through the KDE GUI
[07:19] <Kensey> mpma, does it show up when you run lspci?
[07:20] <Kensey> or is it USB?
[07:20] <mpma> yes kensey
[07:20] <p07r0457> drumline : you need to be root, so you could sudo, but would need to interact with the terminal to give it the pw
[07:20] <varsendagger> spike i'm using a quest dsl router do you know how i get out?
[07:20] <GigaClon> is there a keystroke to kill GNOME?
[07:21] <mpma> kensey Intersil Corp [PrismGT/PRism Duette] 
[07:21] <deFrysk> GigaClon, killall gdm
[07:21] <shekhar> help can someone assist me...
[07:21] <drumline> p07: yeah...  all the other settings areas ask me for the password when I click on "administrator mode", but the network settings just hang... weird.
[07:21] <Kensey> OK< so the hardware at least minimally works
[07:21] <GigaClon> Sometimes GNOME Freezes on me, what should I do
[07:22] <GigaClon> alt-F11 doesn't work
[07:22] <deFrysk> GigaClon, transparency ?
[07:22] <Kensey> what model is it mpma?
[07:22] <GigaClon> no
[07:22] <p07r0457> think I got my dhcp issue fixed... . for some reason the supersede domain-name-servers parameters follow a *different* format than the remainder of the config file...  figures...
[07:22] <ardchoille> I walked into a computer store today and loaded the Ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD onto the computers on the shelves.. and then walked away
[07:22] <mpma> kensey smc 2835w
[07:22] <ardchoille> I hope someone gets hooked on this awesome distro
[07:22] <HedgeMage> lol
[07:22] <metrix> What is the best way to install mozilla 1.5 on ubuntu?
[07:22] <GigaClon> lol
[07:22] <p07r0457> ardchoille > that's a little too far, don't ya think?
[07:22] <DaddyCadd> ubuntu is the shit
[07:23] <ardchoille> p07r0457: nope, didn't damage anything
[07:23] <deFrysk> metrix, wait till its available for ubuntu
[07:23] <Myrtti> DaddyCadd: thanks for the info
[07:23] <deFrysk> metrix, like, in backports
[07:23] <mpma> kensey it was working for quite a while on hoary, and now in kubuntu, I'm not sure what changed... ndiswrapper shows hardware and driver present...
[07:23] <p07r0457> ardchoille > the point isn't whether damage was caused...  but you're trying to force your will on others...
[07:23] <metrix> deFrysk: ok cool
[07:23] <trinidad> I've just upgraded to breezy...fixed X crash problem, now im in kde desktop and icons in menu vary in size
[07:23] <trinidad> why is this?
[07:24] <DaddyCadd> is the something better the ubuntu?
[07:24] <cornflake> does anyone know how to downgrade a system?
[07:24] <GigaClon> well Bill has been forcing his will for years
[07:24] <drumline> p07: weird... now that I've done the ifup eth0, the kde network module asks for the admin pass..  although it still wont give me access when I type my password in.   Do i need to go to single user mode and set a password?
[07:24] <Kensey> mpma: that is odd.
[07:24] <GigaClon> we should force back
[07:24] <deFrysk> trinidad, try #kubuntu wich is more kde-centric ubuntu
[07:24] <Kensey> once I got my hardware recognized I was set
[07:24] <p07r0457> drumline : your sudo pw was set during your install
[07:24] <ardchoille> p07r0457: I see it as opening the eyes of people who are blinded by M$ FUD
[07:24] <Myrtti> GigaClon: and us forcing it makes us as bad as him
[07:24] <p07r0457> daddycadd > "better" is subjective...  depends what you do with your system
[07:25] <mpma> kensey if I try sudo ifconfig wlan up I get the same error, "Error while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:25] <Kensey> of course the driver wasn't preempt-safe so I ended up recompiling my kernel but, hey, you can't have everything :)
[07:25] <p07r0457> ardchoille > are you not bringing yourself down to the level of the people you are calling names?
[07:25] <Kensey> wlan or wlan0?
[07:25] <drumline> p07: weird...  it's not working...  gonna single user my root password.
[07:25] <drumline> I don't really care for this sudo model...
[07:25] <mpma> kensey I'm wondering where wlan0 is defined
[07:25] <GigaClon> drumline it works for me
[07:25] <DaddyCadd> i just want ait all in wonder support, gatos doesnt help
[07:25] <p07r0457> i didn't at first, I was used to the "su -" method...  but now I lov esudo
[07:25] <Kensey> do an ifconfig -a and see what wlan devices it lists
[07:25] <drumline> If I want to roam around as root and take care of things, then I want to be ROOT
[07:25] <Myrtti> or iwconfig?
[07:25] <Kensey> or anything else that looks likely
[07:26] <p07r0457> drumline > you can still "sudo su -" and get full-blown root shell access
[07:26] <Kensey> either one I guess
[07:26] <drumline> p07: hah... never thought of that.  :)
[07:26] <drumline> oh well... about to set the root pass anyway
[07:26] <p07r0457> daddycadd > sorry, I don't use ATi, so not sure on AIW support
[07:26] <Kensey> my wireless device shows up as rausb0
[07:27] <mpma> kensey it' only lists eth0 eth1 lo and sit0
[07:27] <Kensey> which is a bit unwieldy to type but I don't mind :)
[07:27] <Kensey> it could show up as eth<something> too possibly
[07:27] <fangorious> drumline: you can use 'sudo -s'
[07:27] <DaddyCadd> AiW support sucks balls
[07:27] <mpma> kensey for some reason it's not listing wlan0 at all, now mind you I was mucking around trying to fix the modrprobe issue I was having, so I may have changed something, but I don't think so
[07:27] <drumline> fangorious: by the way, that cd-rom issue was hardware related.  A different drive works fine.
[07:27] <fangorious> drumline: well that was simple
[07:27] <p07r0457> daddycadd > ATi support -- in general -- is pretty poor in linux
[07:28] <Kensey> what interfaces does it list?
[07:28] <DaddyCadd> yeah
[07:28] <drumline> fangorious: if only everything was that way
[07:28] <Kensey> lo, sit0, what else?
[07:28] <mpma> kensey lo sit0 eth0 and eth1
[07:28] <fangorious> p07r0457: my mobility fire gl v5000 works pretty well with the 8.19.10 drivers. good 3d accel, both suspend and hibernate work
[07:28] <Kensey> do you have two hardwired ethernet interfaces?
[07:28] <mpma> no
[07:28] <mpma> kensey just one
[07:28] <Kensey> eth1 is probably it then
[07:29] <Kensey> try iwconfig eth1 and see what you get
[07:29] <mpma> kensey but it's supposed to be called wlan0 that's what it was called before... lol ok!
[07:29] <mpma> yeah, iwconfig with no args lists eth1 as the wifi but it says "NOT READY!"
[07:29] <Kensey> hmmmmmm
[07:30] <dt1> i installed kdm how do i change it back to gdm after without reinstalling everything?
[07:30] <GigaClon> logout
[07:30] <dt1> no at boot time
[07:30] <deFrysk> dt1, uninstall kdm , it wil revert back to gdm then
[07:30] <Kensey> just for grins, try configuring eth1 to connect to your wlan and see if it works
[07:30] <dt1> isn't there some command that changes it
[07:30] <GigaClon> click Session on the login
[07:30] <sethk> dt1, yes, there is
[07:31] <dt1> sethk what is it?
[07:31] <sethk> GigaClon, the login is the thing he wants to change
[07:31] <GigaClon> I have Kdm and GDM on my computer
[07:31] <dt1> how do you switch them
[07:31] <GigaClon> I can change them at the login page
[07:31] <sethk> dt1, it's been a while since I figured it out.  I know you can modify a file down in one of the /etc/rc directories
[07:31] <mpma> kensey it's trying but I'm not sure it will allow me to get connected via eth0 and eth1 simultaneously don't you think that might be an issue?
[07:31] <sethk> GigaClon, the login page itself?
[07:31] <GigaClon> yeah
[07:31] <GigaClon> look for Sessions
[07:31] <GigaClon> or Session
[07:31] <p07r0457> I liked the ubuntuguide.org for 5.04.... any idea if something similar exists for 5.10?
[07:32] <sethk> GigaClon, maybe I missed that.  I can change sessions, and select kde or gnome
[07:32] <sethk> GigaClon, but that's irrelevant
[07:32] <GigaClon> is there a fluxbox guide
[07:32] <Kensey> nah, you can have a bunch of interfaces active at once
[07:32] <ispiked> what's the file that says what gnome session to use when one starts a new session?
[07:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell p07r0457 about faq
[07:32] <GigaClon> if you select KDE you boot into KDE
[07:32] <mpma> I edited /etc/network/interfaces replacing wlan0 with eth1 kensey and now it's saying dhcpdiscover on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 \n send_packet: Network is down
[07:32] <GigaClon> if you pick GNOME you boot into GNOME
[07:32] <sethk> dt1, you can also install gdm over itself, and that will put the config back I believe
[07:32] <sethk> GigaClon, yes, but that's irrelevant
[07:32] <p07r0457> _jason > thanks ;)
[07:32] <_jason> p07r0457, np
[07:32] <p07r0457> but that's not so much what I need
[07:32] <deFrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:32] <GigaClon> dt1 does that work?\
[07:33] <Kensey> oh.  heh.  how about ifconfig eth1 down, then ifconfig eth1 up and then try configuring again
[07:33] <sethk> GigaClon, that's the desktop and the window manager, _not_ the display manager
[07:33] <p07r0457> ubuntuguide.org had a bunch of simple steps to get a lot of the normal crap installed and configured
[07:33] <sethk> GigaClon, they are totally different things
[07:33] <mrkoje> you know why windows sucks... because you have to pay money for functionality like zip compression
[07:33] <GigaClon> ah I see
[07:33] <sethk> GigaClon, subtle difference
[07:33] <p07r0457> mrkoje > no you don't
[07:33] <dt1> hmm
[07:33] <sethk> GigaClon, but different
[07:33] <dt1> i remember reading about some utility that switched it
[07:33] <p07r0457> mrkoje > zip is built-in to windows
[07:33] <deFrysk> dt1, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:34] <GigaClon> well you pay money for windows
[07:34] <sethk> dt1, are you sure it wasn't talking about the desktop, but was actually talking about the display manager?
[07:34] <ardchoille> Does anyone know how I can capture the run dialog (ALT+F2) so I can make a menu item for it?
[07:34] <ardchoille> Which command does it use?
[07:34] <fangorious> mrkoje: xp reads/writes zip files as compressed folders
[07:34] <mrkoje> p07r0457: I thought so too.... so why isn't it showing up on the remote machine im connected too
[07:34] <mpma> kensey on sudo ifconfig eth1 up error: SCIOCSIFFLAGS: timer expired
[07:34] <p07r0457> what os is the remote machine using?
[07:34] <p07r0457> (mrkoje)
[07:34] <sethk> dt1, there is a desktop switch tool, but again we have to be clear about the desktop vs the display manager
[07:34] <Kensey> also you might want to check out this post from prism54.org: http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=2928
[07:34] <drumline> anyone know why my network interface is not starting when ubuntu starts?
[07:34] <sethk> dt1, the display manager shows the login screen and manages XDMCP logins from other machines
[07:34] <deFrysk> dt1, otherwise edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[07:34] <mpma> ok kensey thanks... do you use ndiswrapper yourself?
[07:34] <sethk> deFrysk, I think that's the one
[07:35] <redguy> drumline: what NIC is it?
[07:35] <sethk> deFrysk, right, that has the full path to the display manager
[07:35] <deFrysk> ;)
[07:35] <Kensey> nope, I have a native Linux driver from Ralink :)
[07:35] <fangorious> ardchoille: there used to be a menu item for it by default, was it removed?
[07:35] <drumline> redguy: checking
[07:36] <Kensey> but apparently prism54 is where the prism stuff is all going on
[07:36] <drumline> redguy: I think it's a Netgear FA311
[07:36] <mpma> kensey I think my life would be simpler without ndiswrapper for some reason
[07:36] <dt1> sethk display manager - login manager
[07:36] <drumline> redguy: swap it?
[07:36] <deFrysk> dt1, without the spaces
[07:36] <mpma> kensey it's worked great in the past, but it's just  one more abstraction that can mess things up it seems.
[07:37] <deFrysk> dt1, edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[07:37] <Kensey> dunno if native prism drivers exist or how functional they are
[07:37] <sethk> dt1, mostly, yes.  It also handles XDMCP traffic but that's only relevant if you have remote logins
[07:37] <fangorious> ardchoille: there's a "Run application..." panel applet, could you just use that instead?
[07:37] <shadeofgrey> whats the best calandar app that isnt integrated into the evolution email program?
[07:37] <Kensey> ah well, I'm off to bed, 'night all :)
[07:38] <ardchoille> fangorious: yes, the menu item was removed in gnome 2.12 and I need to make a menu item cuz I don't use the panels
[07:38] <mpma> thanks Kensey :-) even though you can't hear me!  I appreciate the time you spent helping me!
[07:38] <shadeofgrey> i thought that there was a sunbird calandar app from the mozilla people, but its not available thru apt-get
[07:38] <deFrysk> fangorious, alt-f2
[07:38] <fangorious> ardchoille: ah, just curious, what's wrong with alt-f2?
[07:39] <sethk> fangorious, nothing wrong with alt-f2 if you don't mind typing.
[07:39] <varsendagger> i am setting up gift, how do i find out if a port is open?
[07:39] <redguy> drumline: is it supported by linux?
[07:39] <fangorious> shadeofgrey: there's a standalone available from mozilla.org, and .xpi files available as extensions for either thunderbird or firefox
[07:39] <GigaClon> so is there a ctrl-alt-delete type kill sequence for GNOME
[07:40] <varsendagger> GigaClon, you can make one
[07:40] <drumline> redguy: it installed just fine and downloaded all the updates...  but now it wont start when linux starts.
[07:40] <ardchoille> fangorious: I am putting this in a nautilus script so I can right click in nautilus and have the run dialog
[07:40] <redguy> GigaClon: to shut down X one would hit ctr-alt-backspace, if that is what you want
[07:41] <drumline> redguy: trying an Intel card now.
[07:41] <redguy> drumline: An Intel should be supported out-of-the-box
[07:41] <drumline> redguy: better be :)
[07:42] <varsendagger> GigaClon, you could edit keybindings and write a short script that kilall gdm && gdm
[07:42] <Locke> how do i enable repositories in KDE?
[07:42] <sethk> varsendagger, don't really need to write, just run whatever is run from the system/log out
[07:43] <varsendagger> true
[07:43] <mt_holden_ss> i know this is off the topic but does anyone here have appls osx x86 dev kit
[07:43] <Locke> how do i enable repositories in KDE?
[07:43] <sampan> locke, in adept: Adept --> Manage Repositories ... or you can (in console): kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  ... and then edit it (uncomment out lines as you need)
[07:43] <Locke> lol, ok
[07:44] <varsendagger> i'm behind a firewall, is there anyway i can find out waht port i can use to talk to the outside world
[07:44] <RancidLM> hey all.. hey i got a stupid question.. i just went from suse to ubuntu.. and when i use to 'ls'  directory's used to be coloured.. now in ubuntu its all white... how do i enable colorized consoles?
[07:45] <deFrysk> RancidLM, ls -c /path /to whatever/
[07:45] <HedgeMage> RancidLM !!!!!!
[07:45] <redguy> RancidLM: check your .bashrc file
[07:45] <RancidLM> OMG.. HedgeMage !!!
[07:45] <HedgeMage> I've been looking for you for a couple of weeks!
[07:45] <HedgeMage> RancidLM: may I /msg you?
[07:45] <RancidLM> HedgeMage: so i heard..sorry been busy with a new job
[07:46] <RancidLM> HedgeMage: for sure
[07:46] <HedgeMage> np
[07:46] <RancidLM> redguy: what would i be looking for in .bashrc ?
[07:46] <Myrtti> alias ls
[07:46] <fangorious> RancidLM: there is a set of aliases for ls/ll/la, stuff like that, which may be commented out
[07:47] <howlym> /hi
[07:47] <redguy> RancidLM: for lines like alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[07:47] <tesoro> /elo
[07:47] <RancidLM> fangorious: no aliases at all..
[07:47] <howlym> 
[07:47] <GigaClon> what do the colors meen
[07:47] <GigaClon> in ls
[07:48] <Myrtti> directories are in different colour
[07:48] <redguy> GigaClon: different file types
[07:48] <RancidLM> redguy: do i have to log out and re-login for changes to occur?
[07:48] <Myrtti> etc
[07:48] <redguy> RancidLM: yup
[07:48] <redguy> RancidLM: you could source .bashrc too propably
[07:49] <ardchoille> fangorious: Have a look at my desktop right-click menu: http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot6dv.jpg
[07:50] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems with a wintv-go pci card trying to get it to detect with bttv.
[07:50] <howlym> rename Howlym
[07:50] <fangorious> ardchoille: man, that looks like it was tedious to set up
[07:51] <ardchoille> fangorious: not really. took me 15 minutes and I'll never have to do it again
[07:51] <mrkoje> how can I connect to a windows served VPN with ubuntu?
[07:52] <polpak> mrkoje, pptp-linux?
[07:52] <mrkoje> never heard of it...
[07:52] <_jason> ardchoille, how does one add a menu item like your "Scripts" in gnome?
[07:52] <mrkoje> thanks
[07:52] <polpak> mrkoje, I haven't used it, but I believe it's the right thing
[07:52] <polpak> mrkoje, a friend of mine was looking to do the same thing, and I had to search to find it
[07:53] <ardchoille> _jason: go to ~/.gnome2 and you'll see a dir named "nautilus-scripts". you can put almost any bash script in that dir and it will be available from the nautilus/desktop right click meny
[07:53] <ardchoille> *menu
[07:53] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems with a wintv-go pci card trying to get it to detect with bttv.
[07:53] <mrkoje> polpak: thanks... all I was getting in the serach was terminal server clients... vnc  etc...
[07:53] <_jason> ardchoille, nice, thanks
[07:53] <drumline> I want to log in as root through KDE.. how is this done?
[07:53] <polpak> drumline, why?
[07:53] <fangorious> that's all for me, l8r folks
[07:53] <mrkoje> polpak: and Im not exactly sure how I could tunnell ssh... a connection with winxp
[07:54] <ardchoille> _jason: There is a nice tutorial and assorted scripts here: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[07:54] <redguy> drumline: you got root enabled?
[07:54] <ardchoille> that's where I learned from
[07:54] <drumline> polpak: I'm tired of KDE not responding to my password and not giving me access to the networking components.
[07:54] <drumline> redguy: not sure
[07:54] <frogzoo> drumline: sudo bash will do it
[07:54] <_jason> ardchoille, yeah that looks helpful, thanks a lot
[07:54] <ardchoille> _jason: you're welcome :)
[07:54] <redguy> drumline: you got your root password? or do you have only the regular user's password?
[07:55] <badmacktuck> hello again everybody
[07:55] <polpak> drumline, graphical components or command line?
[07:55] <drumline> frogzoo: sudo bash.   then what after that?
[07:55] <badmacktuck> whats the trick to getting a wmv to stream properly
[07:55] <polpak> drumline, or sudo -s will work also
[07:55] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems with a wintv-go pci card trying to get it to detect with bttv.
[07:55] <frogzoo> drumline: then you're root I guess
[07:56] <polpak> mrkoje, do you need to tunnel ssh?
[07:56] <nwlinkvxd> can anyone help me with bttv?
[07:56] <polpak> mrkoje, I'm not sure what you're trying to do
[07:56] <chapium> this sudo business is confuing me to death
[07:56] <badmacktuck> what i meant was: "whats the trick to getting a wmv to stream properly using totem and firefox? is there a plugin or something?"
[07:56] <CaptainMorgan> omg..
[07:56] <drumline> here's what is happening:   I set my root password to "blah".   When I try to set the network components in the Settings -> Internet & Network -> Network Settings, the thing asks me for a password, I give it, and then it doesn't give me access to change anything.
[07:56] <CaptainMorgan> I swear it gets better every day..
[07:56] <chapium> i try to sudo, and then nothing happens
[07:56] <polpak> badmacktuck, read the restricted formats wiki
[07:56] <mrkoje> polpak: Im good... I was looking to transfer some files from a remote machine via secure tunnel such as a vpn
[07:56] <CaptainMorgan> Win is fast becoming the past for me...
[07:56] <sampan> drumline, are you using kde/kubuntu?
[07:56] <badmacktuck> thanks polpak
[07:56] <varsendagger> badmacktuck, i would look into gmplayer
[07:56] <mrkoje> polpak: Im just not exactly sure on how to log into the winxp created VPn with MS username etc..
[07:57] <polpak> !restricted
[07:57] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:57] <drumline> sampan: yes
[07:57] <frogzoo> drumline: it needs your user password, not root
[07:57] <sampan> drumline, have you updated since installing kde?  there was an administrator bug that did just that: you'd input the pw and it would just dump you back into reg user mode
[07:57] <drumline> my user password is the same as my root password
[07:57] <mrkoje> polpak: Im currently using a windows machine to connect to the remote machine to retrieve the files but I know there has to be a way I can do this with linux.
[07:57] <drumline> sampan: hmm....   gonna check that out
[07:57] <calamari> hi
[07:57] <sampan> but it was fixed in some updates a week or two ago
[07:57] <polpak> chapium, sudo means super user do then you type a command after that to tell what you want to do as root
[07:58] <polpak> chapium, like sudo shutdown -r now
[07:58] <calamari> anyone know of a .deb for firefox 1.5?
[07:58] <polpak> mrkoje, I'm pretty sure pptp-linux will let you do it
[07:58] <_jason> calamari, have you read the wiki page on firefox 1.5?
[07:58] <calamari> _jason: nope.. will look for that now, though :)
[07:58] <drumline> sampan: omg... there's quite a few..  :)
[07:58] <_jason> ubotu, tell calamari about ffnew
[07:58] <polpak> calamari, you'll probably want to wait for the backport
[07:58] <sampan> ;)
[07:59] <mrkoje> polpak... Im going over it right now...
[07:59] <drumline> sampan: hmm.. .said "nothing to do"
[07:59] <drumline> sampan: oh!  wait....   friggin IF is down right now...  :)
[07:59] <drumline> heh... oh goodnes
[08:00] <polpak> drumline, ubuntu doesn't have a root password. Any user within the admin group can use sudo to do things as root if they provide their own password
[08:00] <calamari> that doesn't install ff as a package.. don't wanna do that I think :)
[08:00] <badmacktuck> varsendagger, is gmplayer in the repository somewheres? how would i find that out myself without having to ask?
[08:00] <sampan> drumline, frogzoo was also right though -- i set a root pw once and often it wanted my user pw (for sudo) instead of root -- so if the updates don't fix it, it might just be as simple as using your own pw instead of root
[08:00] <polpak> calamari, just wait for it to be backported
[08:00] <chapium> polpak:  I know what you mean, but when i use the command in the context you speak of it just pauses for a second and nothing happens
[08:01] <polpak> chapium, sudo -s  ?
[08:01] <sampan> and then when i reinstalled i just ditched root and learned to love sudo ;)
[08:01] <_jason> calamari, you'll have to wait for the backport then
[08:01] <polpak> chapium, it should drop you into a root shell
[08:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell calamari about ffbackport
[08:01] <calamari> polpak: well ff 1.0.7 seems to be printing off the top of the page, so I was hoping to try 1.5 so I could print out my school assignment
[08:01] <drumline> sampan: cool..  thank you :)
[08:02] <chapium> polpak:  sudo -s and nothing happens
[08:02] <polpak> chapium, did it ask for your password?
[08:02] <drumline> The perfect symphony: Beethoven's 9th.
[08:02] <sampan> drumline, sure -- that admin mode bug pissed me off no end for a couple weeks ... i even (in a fit of temporary insanity induced by it) installed mandriva instead ;)
[08:02] <sampan> so i empathize
[08:02] <jbroome> ew
[08:02] <yossman> chapium, pay attention to the last character in the prompt
[08:02] <yossman> chap, it probably changed from $ to #
[08:03] <polpak> yossman, and the user should say root
[08:03] <yossman> yea, 'whoami' probably returns 'root'
[08:03] <drumline> sampan: I tell ya... I was about to go insane
[08:03] <drumline> sampan: however, it was self-induced insanity...   I really should clue in and do the updates before asking any questions.
[08:03] <sampan> lol me too -- my clock got set wrong and i couldn't even set the time right -- i was just about tearing my hair out
[08:03] <isaac_> Quick question, have you guys merged package trees between the 32 and 64 bit versions?
[08:03] <chapium> polpak, yossman. hmmm.. we might be working now
[08:04] <drumline> sampan:  nice package system on ubuntu... I'm happy with it.
[08:04] <drumline> sampan: little nicer than SUSE's
[08:04] <polpak> drumline, yeah, apt-get is the best package system I've seen
[08:05] <polpak> drumline, so much software
[08:05] <sampan> drumline  yeah, it's very nice -- and a very large part of the reason i couldn't stand mandriva :X
[08:05] <polpak> sampan, it's the reason I switched from Fedora.
[08:05] <drumline> heh... what's mandriva all about?   building everything from source?
[08:05] <drumline> Fedora... yuck...  They have a buggy package manager
[08:06] <sampan> mandriva is nice for some things ... but man, having to set up urpmi was such a pain compared to editing the sources.list on ubuntu
[08:06] <polpak> drumline, it's not terribly buggy, just doesn't have anywhere near the volumn of software in apt
[08:06] <drumline> at least Fedora 4's DVD... I never could update, so it was on to SUSE testing
[08:06] <_Rappy_> Ehm, newbie question. How do I search for a file (PNG with spesific name) in the terminal w/o using "locate"?
[08:06] <polpak> <3 ubuntu <3
[08:07] <mt_holden_ss> so should i install ubuntu first partition then install xp?
[08:07] <polpak> _Rappy_, man find
[08:07] <drumline> rappy: first: sudo updatedb    then: locate
[08:07] <Wilberto> anyone using powerpc ubuntu for mythtv?
[08:07] <_Rappy_> thn polpak :) drumline, Without using "loacte" :)
[08:07] <drumline> rappy: or if you don't want you use an indexer, man find, as polpak suggested.
[08:07] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: it's easier to install XP first, then Ubuntu, from what I've read
[08:07] <Quequeg> _Rappy_, find / -iname "*string*.png"
[08:07] <drumline> rappy: ahh.. gotcha.
[08:08] <mt_holden_ss> ok, so once xp is done then, boot up ubuntu  partition like 30 GB and install i got a 80Gb hard drive
[08:08] <cafuego> Wilberto: Is there even a divx/xvid decoder for ppc that works?
[08:08] <drumline> mt_holden_ss: did you make the XP partition as large as the drive?
[08:09] <Madpilot> !tell mt_holden_ss about dualboot
[08:09] <Quequeg> mt_holden_ss, if you want to share files between the two, you might want a vfat partition as well...
[08:09] <Wilberto> cefuego: I dont know - I record mf shows in mpeg2
[08:09] <cafuego> Quequeg: Nah, XP can read ext2/ext3 just fine.
[08:09] <isaac_> Hey all, if I were to install Ubuntu for '64, will I be able to pull 32-bit packages out of the repository without too much of a hassle?
[08:09] <polpak> cafuego, ??
[08:09] <cafuego> isaac_: Not really. Best bet for the moment is to install the i386 branch.
[08:09] <drumline> cafuego: with what software?
[08:09] <Quequeg> cafuego, can it write to it?  Or, linux to NTFS?
[08:10] <Wilberto> cefuego: the package for mythtv-frontend is one version bedhind - I tried compiling but run into errors
[08:10] <cafuego> drumline: ext2fsd (sourceforge)
[08:10] <chapium> ok, following the exact instructions the ubuntu restricted formats wiki, i get this:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/443269
[08:10] <drumline> Linux can write to NTFS, but it is highly experimental... don't do it.
[08:10] <chapium> when trying to enable mp3
[08:10] <cafuego> Quequeg: XP to ext2/ext3.
[08:10] <drumline> cafuego: i'm aware of that package, but I don't know if they've added full ext3 support in it yet.
[08:10] <Quequeg> drumline, that was actually rhetorical, but yeah...  :)
[08:10] <isaac_> cafuego: Thanks, I'll prolly end up doing that.
[08:10] <s3bby> lo
[08:10] <nomasteryoda> drumline, you do that when you have a screwed up windows xp ... viruses... with no hope of recovery except that
[08:10] <nomasteryoda> =D
[08:10] <drumline> Quequeg: oh...  heh
[08:11] <mt_holden_ss> hey my dad works for holden!!! FORD suck...
[08:11] <s3bby> !seen
[08:11] <cafuego> isaac_: I'm still running the 64bit version here, but once I finish moving house, I'm cross-downgrading to i386.
[08:11] <s3bby> !seen jax0m
[08:11] <drumline> cafuego: wow...   so it does the ext3 now?   cool!
[08:11] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'jax0m', s3bby
[08:11] <mt_holden_ss> so when i do xp dont do a ntfs format do a fat...
[08:11] <cafuego> mt_holden_ss: Any large car sucks ;-)
[08:11] <s3bby> thx ubotu.  hes in ur channel.
[08:11] <polpak> chapium, did you enable the multiverse repos?
[08:11] <s3bby> works well.
[08:11] <cafuego> mt_holden_ss: That's an option, yes.
[08:11] <chapium> polpak, yep
[08:11] <Aegir> mt_holden_ss: I personally prefer ext3, but yeah, fat32 could work...
[08:12] <jax0m> s3bby, heh
[08:12] <Aegir> *could*
[08:12] <mt_holden_ss> wats the diff b/w ntfs and fat
[08:12] <nomasteryoda> mt_holden_ss, for security in Windows... use NTFS... for the OS, but fat32 for shared space between linux and windows
[08:12] <mt_holden_ss> fat32*
[08:12] <polpak> chapium, and you used apt-get update after you changed your sources.list ?
[08:12] <pundai> hey i got dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):
[08:12] <pundai>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB', which is also in package openoffice.org2-calc
[08:12] <pundai> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:12] <pundai> E
[08:12] <pundai> whats going on ^^^^
[08:12] <phiqtion> how can i install kubuntu thru apt get?
[08:12] <chapium> polpak, its being goofy,hang on
[08:13] <Quequeg> mt_holden_ss, if you have a windows install, ntfs gives you much greater control over permissions.  I think for maximum windows/linux benefit you should do winxp/ntfs / vfat shared / ext3 (or whatever)
[08:13] <mt_holden_ss> oh ok last attempt i tried to do xp and linux was when linux re-formatted my whole drive and lost everything all documents, ect, my hdd is empty besides linux right now
[08:13] <phiqtion> nalioth: i need kubuntu, what's the command thru apt get?
[08:13] <Chad1> hi, im a newbie looking at giving ubuntu a try instead of winxp, just one question. Does VideoLan work on ubuntu? which linux version would work on ubuntu
[08:13] <nomasteryoda> Quequeg, yes, exactly what i was saying
[08:13] <nwlinkvxd> Can anyone help me with BTTV?
[08:13] <mamay-imoet> HAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[08:13] <nomasteryoda> mt_holden_ss, LOL.... just be careful
[08:13] <polpak> phiqtion, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <drumline> Chat1: contact the VideoLan folks to see if it works on Debian... If it works on Debian, it should work on ubuntu...
[08:14] <mt_holden_ss> yeh lesson learnt
[08:14] <polpak> phiqtion, sudo first obviously
[08:14] <phiqtion> Chad1: it works perfect on ubuntu
[08:14] <mrkoje> polpak: that pptp-linux package is going to take some time to learn....
[08:14] <Chad1> drumline> it does on debian, cheers
[08:14] <polpak> mrkoje, not terribly easy to configure?
[08:14] <mt_holden_ss> but if xp is installed and make a partition in linux boot, wont that get rid of a bit of xp?
[08:14] <polpak> mrkoje, that's too bad
[08:14] <mrkoje> polpak; guess Im going to save that for another day :)
[08:14] <polpak> mrkoje, was planning to use it myself
[08:14] <drumline> chad1: does it have a .deb package?
[08:14] <nalioth> phiqtion: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <phiqtion> polpak: thanks
[08:14] <mrkoje> polpak: it might be but apparently requires a kernal patch
[08:14] <phiqtion> nalioth: thanks
[08:14] <polpak> mt_holden_ss, only if xp is using the whole disk
[08:15] <Quequeg> mt_holden_ss, be aware hibernation f's with vfat, so when you're sharing reboot/shutdown from windows, else you might lose data.
[08:15] <mrkoje> polpak: and it works with pppd
[08:15] <drumline> god...  ubuntu runs nicely on my 400mhz box... I'm impressed.
[08:15] <mrkoje> polpak: there is no man pages referenced either
[08:15] <Quequeg> f's w/ vfat while dual booting, to be more explicit.
[08:15] <nomasteryoda> drumline, yes it does
[08:15] <nomasteryoda> i run it on a 266 and it's quit nice
[08:15] <drumline> nomasteryoda: i just hope the capacitors last another few years  :)
[08:15] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[08:15] <mrkoje> polpak: and the dumb readme is little more then then a description of what it can do
[08:16] <mt_holden_ss> oh ok, so i shouldnt make the partition within xp but do it within linux?
[08:16] <Quequeg> ubuntu runs pretty nice on an Athlon X2 dual core, too... ;)
[08:16] <drumline> Quequeg: I bet...   zippy
[08:16] <nomasteryoda> mt_holden_ss, that would make sense ... set them up using gparted or cfdisk
[08:16] <Aegir> Quequeg: You'd bloody well hope it would ;)
[08:16] <thebanana> has anyone used kvpnc to connect to a pptp server here?
[08:16] <nomasteryoda> Quequeg, oh yea
[08:16] <drumline> awwww.....  where's the 'fortune' command?   :(
[08:17] <mrkoje> thebanana... what?
[08:17] <drumline> not OK!
[08:17] <Quequeg> Fastest machine I've ever built, and (unfortunately?) it's *just* a fileserver/backup server.
[08:17] <thebanana> actually, how would i get in touch with the ubuntu maintainer of the kvpnc package?
[08:17] <polpak> mrkoje, it has a website
[08:17] <mrkoje> thebanana... how wierd... I was just on that subject about vpns
[08:17] <mt_holden_ss> now i just have to wait for the new .iso of ubuntu to finish downloadin...2hrs left
[08:17] <thebanana> oh really - sorry i missed it
[08:17] <polpak> mrkoje, http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian.phtml
[08:17] <mrkoje> polpak... I will visit the website tomorrow.... thanks though
[08:18] <thebanana> polpak - that's great and all - but i'm looking for something a little more user-friendly
[08:18] <mt_holden_ss> ive got 5.04 im gettin 5.10
[08:18] <thebanana> to recommend to a linux newb
[08:18] <thebanana> kvpnc seems to do the trick
[08:18] <badmacktuck> g'night
[08:18] <phiqtion> nalioth: can i also install edubuntu?
[08:18] <thebanana> however, i'm not sure if the kvpnc in universe is the latest
[08:19] <axisys> hey all
[08:19] <axisys> anyone know a reository for new firefox pkg?
[08:19] <drumline> obscene fortunes are the best
[08:19] <mrkoje> polpak: ok so I went... the pptpconfig  gui might help!
[08:19] <_jason> !ffbackport
[08:19] <ubotu> I guess ffbackport is Firefox backport will be a while, read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595.  See !ffnew for information on installing it yourself.
[08:19] <mrkoje> at least with my patience
[08:19] <axisys> !ffnew
[08:19] <ubotu> I heard ffnew is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:20] <thebanana> mrkoje - pptpconfig works and is definitely easier than scripts for a newb but it suffers from horrible usability
[08:20] <polpak> mt_holden_ss, My suggestion would be to use a live cd to gparted your drive. Make a decent sized NTFS partition (primary) a vfat partition (logical) a swap partition and the rest ext3
[08:20] <thebanana> the ui is quirky
[08:21] <polpak> mt_holden_ss, then install xp and it should only install to the ntfs partition
[08:21] <fdelacruz> hi guys
[08:21] <polpak> mt_holden_ss, then install ubuntu
[08:21] <polpak> mt_holden_ss, and tell it to ignore the ntfs partition
[08:21] <axisys> thnx _jason
[08:21] <pundai> hey im getting a dpkg error with dist-upgrade
[08:21] <mrkoje> thebanana: have you used it on ubuntu? I can't even find the dumb deb in the repos
[08:21] <chapium> polpak, thanks we now have mp3'age.. the instructions were a bit off
[08:21] <pundai> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice2/help/en/scalc.idx/DOCS.TAB', which is also in package openoffice.org2-calc
[08:21] <pundai> d
[08:21] <mrkoje> pptpconfig that is... pptp-linux is in there
[08:21] <pundai> how do i fix that
[08:21] <thebanana> mrkoje - yes i have it
[08:21] <nalioth> phiqtion: if you like, it's edubuntu-desktop  (i suspect ubuntu and kubuntu will cover most of the software in edubunt)
[08:22] <chapium> gstreamer0.8-multiverse does not exist
[08:22] <polpak> chapium, really? I don't recall having any difficulties with them
[08:22] <phiqtion> nalioth: thanks bro
[08:22] <polpak> chapium, you are using the ones from the wiki?
[08:22] <chapium> yes
[08:22] <polpak> !restricted
[08:22] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:22] <pundai> helllooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:22] <pundai> can anyone here me or am i +q'ed
[08:23] <polpak> chapium, it says gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[08:23] <polpak> pundai, we can hear you
[08:23] <Kaiser_Away> pundai:
[08:23] <pundai> ok
[08:23] <pundai> so what do i do for my issue ^^^
[08:23] <pundai> :D
[08:23] <chapium> polpak, yes that one would not run
[08:23] <mrkoje> thebanana - where did you get it? It's not in the repos?!
[08:23] <Kaiser_Away> sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/debname
[08:24] <thebanana> mrkoje - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31516
[08:25] <andrew> I got mp3 working in xmms and totem but won't play in amarok, any ideas?  I got it all working on my laptop, but I'm having problems on my desktop.
[08:25] <nalioth> pundai: you can force it, but your house may explode and your hair fall out
[08:25] <thebanana> andrew - make sure you have the gstreamer plugins ffmpeg and such
[08:25] <andrew> thebanana - I do, that's how I got it going in Totem and xmms
[08:26] <ilba7r> hi just a general hardware question. IF i have a fluctuating pixel sometimes stuck on white sometimes it is ok is that a screen fault or can it be due to something else
[08:26] <mrkoje> thebanana  - can you tell me what the file is to edit to add to the repos list.... its like  list.source or somthing right/
[08:26] <pundai> nalioth, Kaiser_Away thanks :)
[08:26] <thebanana> mrkoje - /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:26] <sampan> mrkoje  it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:26] <Kaiser_Away> pundai: np
[08:26] <onkarshinde> !tell andrew about mp3
[08:27] <onkarshinde> andrew: that page contains amarok tips
[08:27] <pundai> worst apt-get dist-upgrade ever
[08:27] <pundai> worst and first
[08:27] <pundai> heh
[08:27] <mrkoje> thanks
[08:29] <drumline> sampan: ohh... the updates worked...  what a releif...  Now I wont have to destroy things.
[08:29] <phiqtion> nalioth: is there any way to make use of the multimedia keys on my HP laptop on VLC, XINE or MPLAYER?
[08:29] <sampan> drumline  yay!  i'm glad they solved it for you :)
[08:30] <drumline> by the way, MPlayer says that it doesn't like my version of gcc, is there a package?
[08:30] <sampan> destroying things can be an expensive hobby
[08:30] <drumline> sampan: with your help...  thanks
[08:30] <drumline> sampan: can be, but only if you aren't already throwing the doomed items away.
[08:30] <phiqtion> nalioth: what should i select in "desired default display manager" ?
[08:30] <nalioth> phiqtion: some kind of keymapping software? or perhaps you can find your keyboard in the keyboard settings?
[08:30] <nalioth> phiqtion: gdm
[08:31] <phiqtion> nalioth: my keyboard? is a laptop keyboard
[08:31] <phiqtion> nalioth: where's the keyboard settings located at?
[08:32] <nalioth> phiqtion: system > preferences > keyboard
[08:33] <phiqtion> nalioth: thx bro, you're the best.
[08:34] <homer> does ubuntu come with ed?
[08:34] <Pablo> who's ed?
[08:35] <jax0m> homer, yes.
[08:35] <onkarshinde> homer: I supposed sed is the ed in ubuntu
[08:36] <Pablo> eds there
[08:36] <homer> ed is awesome
[08:36] <homer> you should all use ed
[08:36] <Pablo> I use nano
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> ROFL
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> if you take a text file gedit opens
[08:37] <homer> ed can open text files
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> and put a ^@ at the end (however you escape out a ctrl@)
[08:37] <homer> ed is awesome
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> gedit will refuse to open it no matter what you do.
[08:37] <homer> i love ed
[08:37] <mdjake> hello
[08:37] <bluefoxicy> no amount of sodomy will make gedit open the file.
[08:38] <homer> ed doesn't care
[08:38] <homer> ed will edit anything
[08:38] <Pablo> lol homer..... "homer> i love ed"
[08:38] <yossman> anyone know why a soundblaster PCI64 (ES1370) would just be blaring bad static garbage instead of music from ubuntu 5.10
[08:38] <yossman> i gave up on the soundblaster AWE32 ISA card.  heh.
[08:38] <onkarshinde> bluefoxicy: homer: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:38] <mt_holden_ss> just use your motherboard sound
[08:39] <yossman> dont got onboard.
[08:39] <bluefoxicy> how is a text editor packaged by default on ubuntu as the primary editor refusing to open a slightly-corrupt textf ile offtopic?
[08:39] <bluefoxicy> that's like openoffice refusing to open certain word documents with special characters.
[08:39] <mdjake> I'd like to connect my postgresql database running on a Ubuntu server from another Windows computer through the network. I'm using postgres8.0. How should I alter postgresql.conf/pg_hba.conf?
[08:40] <maffju> bluefoxicy, i tried it, but my gedit opens the file without any problems
[08:40] <pitti> mdjake: you need to change postgresql.conf to listen to all ports (if it's not already there)
[08:40] <maffju> but i'm using emacs anyway
[08:40] <onkarshinde> bluefoxicy: I supposing debating on which editor is better or which editor you love is offtopic. If you thing that gedit not opening that file is a problem then file a bug.
[08:41] <mdjake> pitti: It's not there. I tried "listen_addresses = *"
[08:41] <weshays> does anyone know how to remove something from the dpkg list (dpkg -l) once it has been uninstalled and purged?
[08:41] <pitti> mdjake: that's right
[08:41] <drumline> anyone heard of Avast anti-virus?
[08:41] <pitti> mdjake: and in hba.conf, you need a 'host' line for the remote host
[08:41] <onkarshinde> weshays: what do you want to remove?
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> maffju:  dd in a few bytes of /dev/urandom to the end of the file
[08:41] <mdjake> pitti: the postgres server refuses to start with that parameter
[08:42] <bluefoxicy> onkarshinde:  yeah, talking about ed is offtopic; vi is clearly better.  :)
[08:42] <mdjake> (written in the .conf file)
[08:42] <jdapolo> hi guys
[08:42] <jdapolo> im new to ubuntu
[08:42] <weshays> I installed mysql 5 manually but could not get it to start.  now I am trying to start fresh.  I uninstalled the packages and purged them but they are still showing up when I do a "dpkg -l mysql-*"
[08:42] <pitti> mdjake: oh, you need to quote it - listen_addresses = '*'
[08:42] <mdjake> thank you pitti
[08:43] <jdapolo> i want to set up my screen resolution to 1600 but the choices here are only limited to 1024x768
[08:43] <mdjake> I try now
[08:43] <krispy_> f
[08:43] <jdapolo> how do i set it to use higher resolution?
[08:43] <jdapolo> tnx
[08:43] <pitti> mdjake: and hba.conf: put sth like 'host all all 172.16.0.0/24 md5'
[08:43] <pitti> mdjake: the file is documented pretty well, use the examples and the comments
[08:43] <mdjake> pitti: I did that :)
[08:43] <mdjake> I've read
[08:43] <mdjake> before coming here :)
[08:43] <jdapolo> guys pls help
[08:43] <onkarshinde> weshays: paste your 'dpkg -l mysql-*' output to pastebin. How did you manualy install it? How did you remove it?
[08:44] <mt_holden_ss> can flash 8 work...?
[08:44] <anavim> how do I disable networking on startup?  whenever I go out of range of my wireless network and reboot, it always sits for 2-3 minutes
[08:44] <deFrysk> jdapolo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use the defaults but when getting to the resolutions , set your pref , when done restart x
[08:44] <onkarshinde> jdapolo: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:44] <krispy_> whats the link for upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[08:44] <jdapolo> i'll just type it?
[08:44] <mt_holden_ss> can wireless networking work in linux? im usin cat 5 at the moment...
[08:45] <_jason> ubotu, tell krispy_ about breezy
[08:45] <mdjake> pitti: you're a genius. It's up and running. Thank you...
[08:45] <anavim> mt_holden_ss, of course it can
[08:45] <onkarshinde> mt_holden_ss: flash-plugin 8 is not yet available for linux
[08:45] <onkarshinde> !tell krispy_ about upgrade
[08:45] <krispy_> ok i got fools ;] 
[08:46] <weshays> onkarshinde: I downloaded the rpms and did an "alien" on them to debs.  Then I installed them by doing "dpkg -i *.deb".
[08:46] <mt_holden_ss> mmm having problems with wireless, ill play with it later
[08:46] <onkarshinde> anavim: I suppose System->Administration->Networking should help
[08:46] <onkarshinde> weshays: paste output of dpkg -l thing to pastebin
[08:46] <krispy_> later!
[08:46] <weshays> sorry,  what is pastebin?
[08:47] <guzu> hello all
[08:47] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:47] <onkarshinde> weshays: ^^^
[08:47] <weshays> ok ok ok I will google it then :-(
[08:47] <guzu> anybody can tell me where can i get info on the ubuntu 5.10 recommended repos?
[08:48] <drumline> haha...  Trying to install Synaptic and Adept is saying that it could break a package or something.
[08:48] <ndlovu> after upgrading to breezy, mozilla-calendar seems to have broken dependencies. anyone here manage to install it in breezy?
[08:49] <guzu> nobody ....
[08:49] <onkarshinde> guzu: just wait
[08:49] <guzu> ok :)
[08:50] <ndlovu> guzu: there's some mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, but there may also be others
[08:50] <guzu> thanks onkarshinde
[08:50] <onkarshinde> guzu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:51] <onkarshinde> ndlovu: there is no broken dependency for mozilla-calender
[08:51] <guzu> thanks a lot onkarshinde :) i'll check also the links in topic .... if in need
[08:52] <ndlovu> onkarshinde:  mozilla-calendar: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:53] <onkarshinde> ndlovu: when did uou last do 'sudo apt-get update'?
[08:53] <ndlovu> onkarshinde: yesterday... lemme do an apt-get clean and apt-get update and see what happens
[08:54] <jayson> heloow
[08:54] <jayson> how can i run the mySQL?
[08:54] <onkarshinde> ndlovu: do you have dapper repos enabled? Because in breezy there is no such thing as 1.7.12-1ubuntu1
[08:54] <cyphase> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:54] <cyphase> Wireless is working!!!!!
[08:54] <cyphase> :D
[08:55] <ndlovu> onkarshinde: nope
[08:55] <ndlovu> just breezy
[08:55] <onkarshinde> ndlovu: check again. Look at this http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mozilla-browser&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[08:56] <onkarshinde> jayson: see if 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start' works
[08:56] <jayson> ok i will test it :)
[08:56] <weshays> onkarshinde: did you get it?
[08:57] <jayson> command not found.
[08:57] <guzu> onkarshinde, for the "add pplications" application to update it's info do i have to apt-get update?
[08:58] <onkarshinde> weshays: check my reply there
[08:58] <anavim> onkarshinde, I don't see any option in system->administration->networking to not activate networking on boot
[08:58] <onkarshinde> jayson: then try this 'sudo mysqld start'
[08:59] <ndlovu> onkarshinde: it's weird, but I've never had any dapper repos enabled. You can check my sources.list at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/443291
[08:59] <onkarshinde> anavim: select your network interface, eth0 and check in its properties
[08:59] <anavim> onkarshinde, I did
[09:00] <onkarshinde> guzu: Nope. Add applications will just provide installation of a predetermined set of packages
[09:01] <jayson> msqld not found
[09:01] <guzu> onkarshinde, thnx a lot
[09:01] <bradd> hey guys... can I force a package to install via apt-get even if dependancies havent been met?
[09:02] <jayson> onkarshinde: mysqld not found
[09:02] <weshays> onkarshinde: I see it.  any suggestions on how to remove it?  I tried "--forget-old-unavail" but that doesnt seem to work.
[09:02] <maffju> bradd, apt-get --force-yes
[09:02] <onkarshinde> ndlovu: add repos for updates and security for universe. mozilla-calendar is in universe and mozilla-browser is in main.
[09:03] <jayson> how to install the limewire in ubuntu?
[09:03] <onkarshinde> jayson: sorry then I can't help you. Did you install mysql server or just client?
[09:03] <jayson> i get already the rpm
[09:03] <ndlovu> onkarshinde: thanks, will do that.
[09:03] <jayson> i did not. :) how can i install?
[09:03] <varsendagger> jayson, y'all need to get alien  and then alien - limewire.rpm
[09:04] <guzu> onkarshinde, do you know where to add system-wide proxy settings for apt-get and/or "update manager"?
[09:04] <onkarshinde> jayson: you mean you didn't install mysql and still you want to start it? Mysql isn't installed by default
[09:05] <jayson> ah I thought it was installed by defauld
[09:05] <jayson> ah I thought it was installed by default
[09:05] <jayson> onkarshinde: where i can get the alien?
[09:06] <onkarshinde> guzu: Try to search Applications->System Tools meny or System-Administration or System->Preferences menu. I am sure there is some global proxy settings. Just don't know where.
[09:06] <onkarshinde> jayson: if mysql 4 is okay with you then install it from synaptic
[09:06] <frogzoo> guzu which proxy setting u looking for?
[09:06] <ndlovu> onkarshinde: working now, thanks for the help
[09:06] <guzu> onkarshinde, looks like at least for synaptic/apt-get, in preferences, user:pass@proxy
[09:07] <onkarshinde> jayson: always search what you want first in synaptic, if not found then install from source
[09:07] <mamay-imoet> haaa
[09:07] <guzu> frogzoo, proxy for apt-get and/or "update manager". synaptic for now is working fine, i'll check later "update manager"
[09:07] <frogzoo> guzu /etc/wgetrc
[09:08] <shekhar> can someone tell me how to fix the icons in my gnome menu?
[09:08] <guzu> frogzoo, oh, thnx!
[09:08] <NoobieDoobieDo> shekhar, What is wrong with the icons in your Gnome menu ?
[09:09] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  some icons are missing for certain apps that had them before, i just installed kde and it has dumped stuff all over my gnome menu
[09:09] <jayson> onkarshinde: i'm a newbe here what is synaptic?
[09:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> shekhar, I too had that problem when installing KDE.
[09:10] <onkarshinde> shekhar: login and logout
[09:10] <frogzoo> jayson: synaptic is a gui i/f to the package manager
[09:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> But I fixed it by removing KDE ;)
[09:10] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  oh i've had many more problems since installing kde ;)
[09:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> shekhar, Well at least you have been busy.
[09:10] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  how do i remove all the other packages with kubuntu-desktop?
[09:10] <onkarshinde> jayson: synaptic is gui to package manager apt-get
[09:10] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  i mean in principle i would like to try kde...
[09:11] <jayson> onkarshinde: ah ic tnx :)
[09:11] <deFrysk> shekhar, sudo apt-get remove kdelibs
[09:11] <onkarshinde> jayson: Do you know how to use apt-get?
[09:11] <shekhar> deFrysk: does that remove all the other packages which were installed with kubuntu-desktop?
[09:11] <NoobieDoobieDo> Does everything in the /etc/rc.?/ directories run at start-up ?
[09:12] <xet7> How do I convert ubuntu's main ext3 partition to reiserfs?
[09:12] <varsendagger> !cvs
[09:12] <ubotu> well, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[09:12] <xet7> it's in one part, / , and other is swap partition. dual boot with windows
[09:13] <onkarshinde> xet7: you will need live cd for that, because you can not convert a partion that is mounted and you can not unmount a partition that is busy
[09:13] <xet7> onkarshinde: what program? qtparted?
[09:13] <DShepherd> hey
[09:13] <onkarshinde> xet7: on live cd either parted or gparted (if available)
[09:14] <xet7> ok
[09:14] <onkarshinde> xet7: ext3 is fine for home use. reiserfs is for very big storage systems
[09:14] <DShepherd> where can I get firefox source?
[09:14] <maffju> xet7, i don't think gparted is on the ubuntu live cd
[09:14] <maffju> xet7, i'm using knoppix for that, with qtparted
[09:14] <jayson> nop
[09:15] <jayson> onkarshinde: nop
[09:15] <onkarshinde> maffju: that is why i said (if available)
[09:15] <xet7> does ext3 defrag in background?
[09:15] <maffju> onkarshinde, sure
[09:15] <onkarshinde> !synaptic
[09:15] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:15] <xet7> I think reiserfs does
[09:15] <onkarshinde> !tell jayson about synaptic
[09:16] <onkarshinde> xet7: don't know about defrag, but I suppose journalling file systems (both ext3 and reiserfs) don't need defrag
[09:17] <DShepherd> anyone familiar with the checkinstall command?
[09:17] <jayson> onkarshinde: wait i will restart my PC :)
[09:17] <drumline> in Ubuntu, where is the gateway specified in the /etc dir?
[09:18] <Elektrochelovek> i think in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:18] <raphink> yep
[09:18] <raphink> that's where it is :)
[09:18] <drumline> ahh... there it goes
[09:18] <mt_holden_ss> anyone got a xbox 360 here?
[09:19] <drumline> ugh...  buggy...   the KDE graphical interface doesn't set the gateway in the configs...
[09:19] <A-Go> to evolution users: how do you sync your pda's notes/memos with evo2? is it possible?
[09:19] <drumline> oh well..  bugs happen  :)
[09:19] <robotgeek> how do i scroll with a trackball?
[09:19] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: yep, this is coming from my 360 Linux box :D
[09:20] <Elektrochelovek> yeah, ff 1.5 final;D
[09:20] <mt_holden_ss> wat u mean frogzoo, have u already got a hacked xbox 360?
[09:21] <onkarshinde> Elektrochelovek: is has been for some hours now
[09:21] <onkarshinde> mt_holden_ss: of course he was joking. How can he gaim from XBOX
[09:21] <bradd> hi.. wheres the common place ubuntu puts its lib files.. I built a lib but it pt everything in /usr/local/lib and my apps can't find them..
[09:22] <mt_holden_ss> lol but serious any one here have a xbox 360?
[09:22] <darker-shadow> am i have a problem with linux ubuntu can some one help?
[09:22] <jonathon> hello i just upgraded my oary 5.04 clean install to a 5.10 breezy using the apt-get dist-upgrade and when i log back in everything seems perfect except my sound
[09:23] <jonathon> my sound tray  icon now has an x next to it and has the error resitry is not present or it is currupt
[09:23] <darker-shadow> the x-server don't work
[09:23] <onkarshinde> bradd: how did you put that in /usr/local/lib? The normal 'make install' way?
[09:23] <bradd> yup
[09:24] <bradd> can i add /usr/local/lib as a dir to search in?
[09:26] <robotgeek> bradd: ./configure --help | less, mostly ./configure --lib-path=/usr/local/lib
[09:26] <bradd> ok, what lib should I put (ie whats ubunt's default lib path)?
[09:27] <darker-shadow> robotgeek
[09:27] <darker-shadow> can you help me?
[09:27] <Madpilot> darker-shadow: could you expand on "don't work" for us?
[09:27] <robotgeek> darker-shadow: maybe, if you can tell me your problem. ask in here now :)
[09:28] <darker-shadow> the x-server is faild when the ubuntu start to run
[09:29] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: did you mess with xorg.conf ?
[09:29] <frogzoo> bradd /etc/ld.conf    iirc ?
[09:30] <darker-shadow> no i does installed the ubuntu
[09:30] <Madpilot> darker-shadow: "failed" with an error message, or what? details, please...
[09:30] <welp> yay! i got my ubuntu CDs i ordered!
[09:30] <darker-shadow> http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=130538
[09:30] <welp> too bad i downloaded them.....
[09:31] <drumline> anyone have experience with LDAP?
[09:31] <NoobieDoobieDo> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/LDAP-HOWTO.html
[09:31] <darker-shadow> here is the all input wrote of the x-server
[09:31] <drumline> ...Just looking for a good website or two that somebody can point me to so I can learn LDAP and configure it.
[09:31] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  do you know how i can remove all the kde-associated apps and stuff which i installed?
[09:32] <drumline> noob: hey thanks...
[09:32] <darker-shadow> i checked the version  and it's the last version.
[09:32] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: try     "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:32] <NoobieDoobieDo> shekhar, In Synaptic
[09:33] <stimpie> Can how someone tell me how to get a stacktrace of a crashing program?
[09:33] <drumline> so cool... awesome link Noobie
[09:33] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  but i installed kubuntu-desktop with all the assoc packages, but if i remove kubuntu-desktop it only removes the placeholder package
[09:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> shekhar, Use Synaptic to pick and chose what KDE applications you want to remove.
[09:35] <mt_holden_ss> cant close xmms is ther a shortcut to close it
[09:35] <mt_holden_ss> its just frozen
[09:35] <shekhar> NoobieDoobieDo:  what about all the other stuff which was installed with it? i don't know what is what now
[09:35] <blue-frog> mt_holden_ss, in a terminal   xkill
[09:36] <drumline> mt_holden_ss: killall <proc-name>
[09:36] <darker-shadow> afther i wrote that and insert my nick password, he ask me now if am want to attemt to autodetect the x server and driver module
[09:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> shekhar, Most KDE apps have a K in their name or some such.  You should be able to run a search to find these packages.
[09:36] <noary> hello
[09:36] <topyli> does the totem firefox plugin work well for anyone?
[09:37] <cyphase> topyli, me
[09:37] <f3ar> no, you should use the mplayer plugin
[09:37] <topyli> cyphase: no fiddlint?
[09:37] <topyli> f3ar: no i shouldn't. i use it because i have to
[09:37] <sabmann> topyli, not for me
[09:37] <cyphase> topyli, all i did was reinstall totem and totem-xine
[09:37] <mt_holden_ss> where can i find a list of terminal commands?
[09:38] <noary> i want create repository offline.How To
[09:38] <blue-frog> mt_holden_ss, http://www.perpetualpc.net/srtd_commands_rev.html
[09:38] <topyli> hrm. why does it work for some people and not for others? very un-ubuntuish
[09:38] <mt_holden_ss> thanks
[09:39] <blue-frog> noary, use install-apt-proxy, gives you a partial mirror
[09:39] <f3ar> topyli, well it worked for me...except it wouldn't play certain formats...i now use the mozilla-mplayerplug-in it works much better...IMO that is
[09:39] <cyphase> topyli,try reintalling totem and totem-xine
[09:39] <rob_> my tv card isnt working
[09:39] <rob_> i installed the tv app, kde tv
[09:39] <rob_> but nothing shows up
[09:39] <maffju> is there a package-cd for ubuntu? i need xubuntu-desktop with all dependencies for a networkless installation...
[09:40] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: ls /usr/bin mebbe?
[09:40] <topyli> cyphase: 'scuse me while remove the vlc plugin
[09:40] <cyphase> k
[09:40] <cyphase> :)
[09:40] <crimsun> maffju: for Ubuntu? Yes.
[09:40] <darker-shadow> the video card is autodatect but he ask me what is the inteli810 and it's amd 64 bit processor
[09:40] <cyphase> Anyone know when Firefox 1.5 will be added?
[09:40] <maffju> crimsun, where?
[09:40] <cyphase> It *will* be added, right?
[09:40] <topyli> cyphase: when dapper is out
[09:40] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: intel810 is the video card, not the CPU
[09:41] <blue-frog> maffju, xubuntu only from internet. download all packages, burn them and then use the cd to install wherever u want
[09:41] <cyphase> lol
[09:41] <crimsun> maffju: in the standard download section
[09:41] <cyphase> when dapper is out 2/0 might be out
[09:41] <cyphase> 2.0*
[09:41] <crimsun> maffju: Xubuntu is not available as a set yet.
[09:41] <mt_holden_ss> ls /usr/bin mebbe?  wat
[09:41] <cyphase> it'll be in backports though, right
[09:41] <cyphase> ?
[09:41] <darker-shadow> my video card is ati
[09:41] <maffju> i can't find a package cd here ... http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
[09:41] <cyphase> i'll enable backports just for FF1.5
[09:41] <mt_holden_ss> frogzpp wat u mean by this"ls /usr/bin mebbe?"
[09:41] <darker-shadow> not intel810
[09:42] <cYcLoNeZz> mt_holden_ss he meant ls /usr/bin maybe ...
[09:42] <darker-shadow> how much is 128 mb if i convert to kb?
[09:43] <maffju> the problem is, i need the packages for a different architecture (ppc)
[09:43] <blue-frog> darker-shadow, x1000
[09:43] <cYcLoNeZz> darker-shadow 128 X 1000
[09:43] <cYcLoNeZz> or 1024 ...
[09:43] <cYcLoNeZz> lol
[09:43] <crimsun> maffju: apt-get -s install xubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <crimsun> maffju: note all the packages, and download them
[09:43] <f3ar> what is the command to uninstall?
[09:43] <rob_> really though, how do you get a tv card to work?
[09:44] <cYcLoNeZz> f3ar man apt-get or man dpkg
[09:44] <maffju> crimsun, thanks, i'll do that
[09:44] <blue-frog> f3ar, apt-get remove
[09:44] <mt_holden_ss> i still wouldnt have a clue, im like new to linux
[09:44] <robotgeek> crimsun: hi
[09:45] <cYcLoNeZz> mt_holden_ss then you should google
[09:45] <crimsun> hi.
[09:45] <f3ar> blue-frog, thx
[09:45] <Zoo-> hey all, guess what I did
[09:46] <cYcLoNeZz> Zoo- rm -rf / ?
[09:46] <f3ar> haha
[09:46] <mt_holden_ss> i wasnt the one who asked the question
[09:46] <Zoo-> any guesses?
[09:46] <darker-shadow> he ask me now with module  should be loaded
[09:47] <cYcLoNeZz> mt_holden_ss you asked "where can i find a list of terminal commands" and thats his answer to it
[09:47] <Zoo-> I reverse engineered XAndros  Business 3.0, and Linspire 5.0... :)
[09:47] <frogzoo> Zoo-: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ? do I win ?
[09:47] <mt_holden_ss> oh
[09:47] <Mr_Milenko> dont show him that shit...
[09:47] <ardchoille> lol
[09:47] <topyli> cyphase: nope. on apple's trailer site, the plugin appears and displays "no plugin to handle this movie"
[09:47] <Zoo-> I even put Xandros and LInspire into fluxboxes. it was hillarious
[09:48] <topyli> cyphase: naturally, i have the plugins
[09:48] <Mr_Milenko> some of the newbies in here might be like OH COOL LETS SEE WHAT THIS DOES
[09:48] <Mr_Milenko> and break there shit
[09:48] <cYcLoNeZz> Zoo- whats it got to do with ubuntu support channel ??
[09:48] <Zoo-> Linspire 5.0, is like an awesome Windows Vista LInux,, but way more powerful.. :)
[09:48] <Mr_Milenko> lindows blows ass.. bottomline..
[09:48] <Madpilot> Mr_Milenko: then they'll learn a few very important things about Linux, quickly :D
[09:48] <f3ar> What is the easiest/best media player plugin for firefox? I removed totem due to the fact it won't play .mov's...
[09:48] <mank> hey guys, how's your experience with ubuntu as a server?
[09:48] <Zoo-> I"m going to strip ubuntu.... as well
[09:49] <Zoo-> and make it live usb.. as well..
[09:49] <cYcLoNeZz> Zoo- i already seen the source code ...
[09:49] <noary> i have question remastering install cd .
[09:49] <frogzoo> Mr_Milenko: if you do that sh_t while root, you're asking for it :D
[09:49] <Mr_Milenko> Zoo- on install type server at the beginning lol
[09:49] <blue-frog> f3ar, mplayer-plugin with mplayer no-gui
[09:49] <darker-shadow> what is the "dri device"?
[09:49] <noary> Please advise me.
[09:49] <cyphase> topyli, that's probably because apple marks the movies as quicktime
[09:49] <Zoo-> well I could put it on a network image card
[09:49] <cyphase> have you enabled the quicktime plugins?
[09:49] <topyli> f3ar: i'm going all mplayer for now. i just hate its gui
[09:49] <Zoo-> but college don't want that :)
[09:49] <blue-frog> f3ar, u' will need to rm libtotem plugins
[09:49] <topyli> cyphase: mplayer doesn't seem to mind
[09:49] <mt_holden_ss> does ubuntu 5.10 have a new gui
[09:49] <Zoo-> yeah I know about the base Mr_Milenko
[09:50] <mank> i would like your opinion about using ubuntu as a server
[09:50] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: no, just "new, improved" over 5.04
[09:50] <f3ar> blue-frog, i just used apt-get remove libtotem_mozilla.so it worked fine
[09:50] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: new gui for what? it's running the lastest version of Gnome, if that's what you're asking
[09:50] <Zoo-> FreeBSD was something else.. :P
[09:50] <f3ar> blue-frog, how do you set mplayer to no-gui?
[09:50] <cyphase> topyli, yea, because of the difference how mplayer and totem handle movies
[09:50] <drumline> how do you get mplayer?   It's screaming at me for having obsolete programs and the wrong GCC version...
[09:50] <cyphase> but anyway
[09:50] <mt_holden_ss> yeh thats wat i meant
[09:50] <cyphase> as long as it works :)
[09:50] <frogzoo> mank: unless you're talking hard core, Ubuntu is up to the task easily
[09:50] <cYcLoNeZz> drumline mplayer is in the repo
[09:50] <Zoo-> anyone know why.. mpeg and mp3 cd 's lag when inserted into cd-dvd roms #
[09:51] <blue-frog> f3ar, wiki.ubuntu.com > starter guide  and use synaptic
[09:51] <frogzoo> !mplayer
[09:51] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:51] <mank> i am looking for LAMP server
[09:51] <cYcLoNeZz> mank any linux distro can be lamp server ...
[09:51] <blue-frog> mank, running fine
[09:51] <Zoo-> I am working with designing a server with ulimate hardware support database .. etc..
[09:51] <topyli> i'll see if there are shiny new totem releases with something about this in the changelog :)
[09:52] <darker-shadow> ok i finish to config the x-server, what am i do now?
[09:52] <drumline> cyclonz: it's in the standard repos that I can check in synaptic?
[09:52] <mank> cYcLoNeZz, i am looking for experienced opinion
[09:52] <Zoo-> hee
[09:52] <cYcLoNeZz> drumline yes .. read the links too
[09:52] <blue-frog> mank, running fine
[09:52] <cYcLoNeZz> mank freebsd is a good one
[09:52] <stimpie> how can I get debug packages for ubuntu?
[09:52] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: reboot & cross your fingers
[09:52] <Zoo-> the official site is so cool, they don't stomp on ya.. ;)
[09:52] <darker-shadow> reboot?
[09:52] <mank> blue-frog, what do u run it as
[09:53] <drumline> freebsd is awesome
[09:53] <blue-frog> mank, postfix smab-ldap mysql ftp imap....
[09:53] <Zoo-> yes, its the fastest file system, aka unix file system, I have ever used
[09:53] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: sudo shutdown -r now
[09:53] <Zoo-> $ :)
[09:53] <darker-shadow> but from this user a can't run reboot only root can
[09:53] <cYcLoNeZz> mank you cometo #ubuntu and ask about a server then you going to get the answer as ubuntu ... i think its biased so no use asking
[09:53] <Zoo-> % ;)
[09:53] <darker-shadow> run "reboot"
[09:53] <guillem101> Anyone knows a tool to convert a bunch of DOS text files  (source code) to UNIX like endline termination?
[09:53] <Madpilot> darker-shadow: use sudo
[09:54] <blue-frog> guillem101, dos2unix
[09:54] <axisys> guillem101: dos2unix
[09:54] <Zoo-> cYcLoNeZz: .. you need to get paid.. ;)
[09:54] <frogzoo> guillem101: u want "dostools" iirc
[09:54] <Zoo-> or laid.. :)
[09:54] <darker-shadow> Madpilot how?
[09:54] <cYcLoNeZz> Zoo- got both
[09:54] <mank> cYcLoNeZz, not everyone here uses it as a server but looking for opinion from some who do or some who did
[09:54] <Madpilot> !tell darker-shadow about sudo
[09:54] <Zoo-> well try to go easy on cometo will ya.. sounds harmless :)
[09:54] <guillem101> blue-frog, axisys, frogzoo : thanks... but seem not to be at synaptic :-((
[09:55] <Madpilot> darker-shadow: read that wiki page - Ubuntu uses sudo rather than having a root user
[09:55] <cYcLoNeZz> mank everyone here uses as a server as long as they are running apache or mysql ... i be damned if people don't run them in their box
[09:55] <axisys> guillem101: it should already be there
[09:55] <MorphyZ> I think ubuntu gnome is too heavy for my PC. I'm waiting for Xubuntu.
[09:56] <Zoo-> you can make it into a fluxbox you want :D
[09:56] <cYcLoNeZz> MorphyZ you can try xfce or fluxbox
[09:56] <blue-frog> guillem101, then google for it
[09:56] <axisys> guillem101: try sed or perl otherwise
[09:56] <MorphyZ> I knew xfce, but fluxbox...
[09:56] <Zoo-> ;)
[09:56] <blue-frog> MorphyZ, install xubuntu
[09:57] <Zoo-> install.. PC BSD ;)
[09:57] <Zoo-> or FreeBSD :)
[09:57] <Zoo-> will smoke the mess out of either of experiments with ubuntu :P...
[09:57] <Zoo-> j/k do what you want :)
[09:58] <aburlet> can anyone tell me what script is run after the first reboot during installation ?
[09:58] <mank> zoo, i am tempted to try out freebsd
[09:58] <Zoo-> use desktopbsd, or pc bsd
[09:58] <guillem101> nice, SuSE has it... why is it not available at ubuntu? hmmm cannot find the source code right now... still googling
[09:59] <cYcLoNeZz> if you want freebsd for production then remember not to use 5.x ...
[09:59] <Zoo-> you can reverse it. and add the gnome packages later if you want..
[09:59] <Zoo-> FreeBSD is alot of configurio
[09:59] <frogzoo> mank: naw - Linux is the unstoppable force :D
[09:59] <Zoo-> Configurion
[09:59] <Zoo-> frogzoo: , unix is more open
[09:59] <axisys> guillem101: sed 's/^M$//' file should do it
[09:59] <Zoo-> and the file system, is way faster by all means..
[10:00] <topyli> this is beginning to look like #ubuntu-offtopic material
[10:00] <mank> u mean the UFS is faster than say ReiserFS
[10:00] <cYcLoNeZz> topyli agreed
[10:00] <mt_holden_ss> so the latest ubuntu has gnome 2.12?
[10:00] <blue-frog> guillem101, /join #bluefrog
[10:00] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: yes
[10:00] <oshox> So, I got sick of wrestling with my newest Gentoo install, and Ubuntu's name popped up. What makes Ubuntu different or better than other distrobutions?
[10:01] <f3ar> its easy
[10:01] <darker-shadow> i change the root password, but where am swith user to root?
[10:01] <Zoo-> mank
[10:01] <mt_holden_ss> thank-you
[10:01] <axisys> guillem101: I found it here
[10:01] <axisys> guillem101: http://sed.sourceforge.net/grabbag/tutorials/sedfaq.txt
[10:01] <f3ar> alot of hardware compatability "out of box"
[10:01] <cYcLoNeZz> oshox hmms ... sheesh .. how to answer that one ? try the live cd
[10:01] <sabmann> oshox, there's a lot of documentation
[10:01] <Zoo-> Mac OS X , is built on Solid FreeBSD
[10:01] <sabmann> oshox, and great support
[10:01] <topyli> oshox: it's an easy debian. regular releases. sane default configuration. good default package selection
[10:01] <f3ar> that's all i know
[10:01] <f3ar> definitely great support
[10:01] <frogzoo> oshox: ease of use & package stability
[10:02] <drumline> Zoo-: almost FreeBSD...
[10:02] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: when you enter "sudo command" command is executed as root
[10:03] <oshox> Okay, what type of package manager does it use? I loved gentoo's emerge, that's why I put up with Gentoo's shortcomings as long as I did.
[10:03] <frogzoo> apt-get
[10:03] <darker-shadow> ok "sudo reboot"
[10:04] <darker-shadow> thanks
[10:04] <frogzoo> darker-shadow: or, as I said 2 pages back "sudo shutdown -r now"
[10:04] <mt_holden_ss> how is ubuntu linux develope code wyse, is it all complied software package for linux?
[10:04] <blue-frog> for dos2unix apt-get install sysutils
[10:04] <cYcLoNeZz> mt_holden_ss can rephrase your question ?
[10:04] <frogzoo> blue-frog: sysutils ? or dosutils ???
[10:04] <Zoo-> an operating system.. is what you make it.. :)
[10:04] <blue-frog> sysutils
[10:04] <Zoo-> hey mank.. check this out.. http://www.rocklyte.com/athene/
[10:05] <mt_holden_ss> ok how is ubuntu developed?
[10:05] <guillem101> axisys, Thank you very much :-)))
[10:05] <darker-shadow> another problem when am using reboot, i must shut down the computer, because he get froz...
[10:05] <darker-shadow> why?
[10:05] <guillem101> blue-frog, thank you very much, as well :-))
[10:05] <nAk|Marek> hello, can anyone give me a HW related adivce?
[10:05] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: a team of hackers employed by canonical, and a horde of volunteers
[10:05] <blue-frog> darker-shadow, happens with laptop...
[10:05] <A-Go> Zoo-: that costs
[10:06] <mt_holden_ss> is it all legal?
[10:06] <darker-shadow> it's pc
[10:06] <onkarshinde> mt_holden_ss: Are you new to Linux?
[10:06] <Zoo-> cost.. I make the cost go away :)
[10:06] <frogzoo> !faq
[10:06] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: of course it's legal. it'a a business :)
[10:06] <mank> zoo whats that about!!
[10:06] <Zoo-> thats why I reverse engineered Xandros and Linspire so haha
[10:06] <mt_holden_ss> yes i am new to linux
[10:06] <blue-frog> darker-shadow, a bit unusal then...
[10:06] <mt_holden_ss> is that a problem that i am new lol
[10:06] <Zoo-> all I did was join the club.. :)
[10:07] <frogzoo> !tell mt_holden_ss about faq
[10:07] <topyli> Zoo-: what did you "reverse engineer"?
[10:07] <blue-frog> mt_holden_ss, hackers doesn't mean pirates
[10:07] <onkarshinde> mt_holden_ss: No, it isn't a problem as long as you can leave Windows terms behind and learn linux terms a new
[10:07] <Zoo-> Xandros OS, debian based,  managed by where its from.. canada. and Linspire OS< aka used to be Lindows. until the lawsuite and they had to change there name
[10:07] <blue-frog> mt_holden_ss, understand it as developper to make it simple..
[10:08] <Zoo-> I just did it myself, however theres other people who have there evolution of reversing things :)
[10:08] <mt_holden_ss> ok thanks for all your help and support
[10:08] <topyli> Zoo-: i know what they are, but what is there to reverse engineer?
[10:08] <Zoo-> mt_holden_ss: .. it just takes patience is all
[10:08] <guillem101> blue-frog, you saved my live with the sysutils package :-)))
[10:08] <Zoo-> the whole structure of the system topyli
[10:09] <mt_holden_ss> last time i was on this irc chat like 3-4 months ago i didnt get much support and was quite annoyed cause i was new to linux, so no one helped so re-installed xp, then got fed up with xp and went back to linux
[10:09] <blue-frog> guillem101, the sscript i've gieven u would certainly have made the trick too...
[10:09] <topyli> Zoo-: the structure of the system is well known already!
[10:09] <mt_holden_ss> well actually i wanted to install apple osx x86 but it didnt go all that well
[10:09] <guillem101> blue-frog, too bad "dos2unix" string is not at sysutils description....
[10:09] <Zoo-> yes I know
[10:09] <Zoo-> debian
[10:09] <Zoo-> I am going create my own file system, after I master alogrithms, encryptography,, etc..
[10:09] <guillem101> blue-frog,  you are right.  Thank you for your kind script and pointer to right package ;-)
[10:09] <blue-frog> guillem101, whether u use win, nux or mac there always more than one path to achieve something
[10:09] <Zoo-> algorithms*
[10:10] <k31th> humm
[10:10] <cYcLoNeZz> Zoo- i am going to create a new universe after i learnt how to fly ...
[10:10] <k31th> morning guys
[10:10] <f3ar> new firefox is out btw...
[10:10] <topyli> Zoo-: for what purpose? we do have enough file systems you know
[10:10] <f3ar> can i apt-get install firefox and it will update?
[10:10] <guillem101> blue-frog, he, he. Using nux, sure you have more paths than using win :-P
[10:10] <onkarshinde> f3ar: read topic
[10:10] <f3ar> haha d'oh
[10:10] <darker-shadow> ok now the the screen shut down when the linux start run load him self
[10:10] <Zoo-> for my own privacy purposes. thats why
[10:11] <wolverian> anyone used lftp? can I reattach to a bged lftp session?
[10:11] <onkarshinde> Has anyone ever tried Google Earth using wine?
[10:11] <Mitja> Is there a command that would recognize my audio hardware and install necessary drivers?
[10:11] <wolverian> (as in, I've exited lftp the normal way and it has daemonized itself)
[10:11] <f3ar> whats the best way to secure breezy...
[10:11] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: sometimes people around just can't answer your question. try a few hours later, and different people will be here, perhaps someone in-the-know
[10:11] <Zoo-> I am getting into artificial Intelligence, programming and stuff. soon I will be into.. Holligraphical User INterfaces..
[10:11] <Zoo-> mank check this out before I go
[10:11] <Zoo-> I don't just use 1 OS..
[10:11] <Zoo-> thats boring
[10:12] <Zoo-> check this out mank
[10:12] <onkarshinde> Mitja: Why, didn't they install at time of installation? What is your problem with audio?
[10:12] <Zoo-> --> http://www.scitechsoft.com/
[10:12] <topyli> Mitja: it should work right away
[10:12] <Zoo-> who needs X :)
[10:12] <topyli> Zoo-: i do
[10:12] <frogzoo> !tell Mitja about sound
[10:12] <Mitja> It did work right away, but then I uninstalled some and now the sound doesn't work
[10:12] <onkarshinde> Has anyone ever tried Google Earth using wine?
[10:12] <topyli> Zoo-: it's the only way to run X apps after all
[10:13] <Mitja> And I don't have a clue of what exactly I uninstalled.
[10:13] <Zoo-> onkarshinde: , into World Wind.. by nasa
[10:13] <siorai> This may have already been seen, but I was wondering anyone saw http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/article019/osdl-dtl-survey-12.jpg
[10:13] <darker-shadow> recovery mode, can run "sudo command" from recovery mode?
[10:13] <frogzoo> f3ar Ubuntu is pretty secure out of the box - though installing tripwire would be a good thing (TM)
[10:13] <onkarshinde> Zoo-: Does it run on linux? How good is map quality for non-US countries?
[10:14] <darker-shadow> can i run*
[10:14] <Zoo-> way better than google earth
[10:15] <Zoo-> you can use Cross Over by Codeweavers  or vmware, or win4lin
[10:15] <onkarshinde> Zoo-: and what bout bandwidth usage?
[10:15] <Zoo-> I got to run, ....
[10:16] <darker-shadow> yes, i can see that in recovery mode root is running and not my user.
[10:16] <Zoo-> here read this site. and fall the heck off.. debian
[10:16] <Zoo-> -> http://www.rocklyte.com/athene/
[10:16] <Zoo-> and then try to tell me X is faster.. ;)
[10:16] <reign> Hi guys, i need a little help please
[10:16] <frogzoo> reign: just ask
[10:17] <topyli> Mitja: do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? if you do, you should have a standard ubuntu system where Everything Works(TM)
[10:17] <reign> asking.. busy typing :P
[10:17] <Zoo-> gee don't you just like this part.. Graphics throughput is 17% faster than Microsoft Windows and at least 25% faster than X11.
[10:17] <Mitja> topyli: I have kubuntu
[10:17] <topyli> Mitja: oh, kubuntu-desktop then
[10:17] <reign> i had warty installed and my RTL-8139 card was detected and installed, recently i got my breezy cd's and installed, but the card isnt detected
[10:17] <Zoo-> thats a gag.. :D
[10:17] <Mitja> topyli: It did work at start, though, read above ^^^
[10:18] <topyli> Mitja: yeah, but since you don't know what you've done, it might be wise to make sure everything essential is installed. hence, kubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <jahshua> i have dodnloaded the .iso file from ubuntulinux.org
[10:19] <jahshua> what next?
[10:19] <Mitja> topyli: I reinstalled kubuntu-desktop, but it didn't help
[10:19] <Zoo-> jahshua: .. you want Alcohol 120%?
[10:19] <onkarshinde> jahshua: which iso? 5.10? Burn it to a cd.
[10:20] <jahshua> yes 5.10
[10:20] <jahshua> what program is best for burning it
[10:20] <mt_holden_ss> wat would be in next ubuntu
[10:20] <jahshua> i dont have a cd burner
[10:20] <raphink> Zoo-: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/01/1735216
[10:20] <onkarshinde> jahshua: In your file manager you can right click the iso and say 'Burn to CD'
[10:21] <Zoo-> Alcohol 120% 1 of the best image burning programs I use on win.. ;)
[10:21] <maffju> jahshua, depends on what os you're using, e.g. nero in windows
[10:21] <topyli> Mitja: so, hotplug should recognize your card and load the required module
[10:21] <onkarshinde> jahshua: Do you mean you don't have a cd writer? Then how do you suppose to write the iso to CD?
[10:21] <Zoo-> yeah.. ubuntu is ubuntu though. and Athene is Athene ;)
[10:21] <NoobieDoobieDo> Why does every /etc/rcX.d/ have a S99fetchmail ?
[10:22] <topyli> NoobieDoobieDo: because you have installed fetchmail?
[10:22] <reign> my RTL-8139 network card isnt being detected in breezy, how do i fix that ?
[10:22] <NoobieDoobieDo> topyli, Ubuntu does by default. But why does every run level need to execute it ?
[10:22] <Zoo-> It will be altered. give it time. I will alter it
[10:22] <Zoo-> and so will many more
[10:22] <darker-shadow> i try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in recovery  and he saw that the package "xsrever-xsorg" is not installed and no info is available
[10:22] <darker-shadow> why?
[10:22] <Mitja> topyli: $ hotplug doesn't do anything
[10:23] <onkarshinde> reign: It isn't possible. I have been using that card from warty and currently I am on breezy.
[10:23] <topyli> NoobieDoobieDo: by default? really? i thought i installed it myself
[10:23] <reign> it is possible, it's not being detected, and yesterday i had warty on and it was working
[10:23] <Zoo-> it all depends on what your into raphink
[10:23] <NoobieDoobieDo> topyli, I just installed two days ago and have no desire to have fetchmail running. I'm very sure I didn't install it.
[10:23] <topyli> NoobieDoobieDo: anyway, if you like to run fetchmail, obviously it should run on every runlevel
[10:23] <onkarshinde> darker-shadow: because it is not installed. try 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg'
[10:24] <raphink> what do you mean Zoo- ?
[10:24] <topyli> NoobieDoobieDo: and if you don't, you'll remove it
[10:24] <NoobieDoobieDo> topyli, I am, that's how I noticed it's on more than one run level.
[10:24] <reign> i have checked and the 8139too module is installed
[10:25] <anavim> are there any terminals on ubuntu which handle multiple tabs besides konsole and gnome-terminal?
[10:25] <onkarshinde> reign: and why do you say it is not working? What are you trying to do exactly?
[10:25] <slashx1896> Hey all, im in the mood to learn some stuff about ubuntu :P
[10:25] <cyphase> anavim, all of them
[10:25] <reign> onkarshinde ifconfig only lists lo
[10:25] <cyphase> just like they support multiple 'p's
[10:25] <cyphase> and multiple 'f's
[10:25] <cyphase> etc
[10:25] <cyphase> ;)
[10:25] <darker-shadow> ok what now?
[10:25] <reign> ifconfig eth0 up, finds no device
[10:25] <Zoo-> what do I mean.. I mean catch ya later.. I got stuff to study
[10:26] <topyli> reign: i have the same chip, and it works good. not that that's any consolation. just fyi :)
[10:26] <reign> yes i know thats why im quite stuck, it SHOULD be working heh
[10:26] <onkarshinde> reign: If you are in GUI then go to System->Administration->Networking Check if you see your card
[10:26] <darker-shadow> again "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[10:26] <reign> onkarshinde i checked that, no card just ppp interface
[10:27] <onkarshinde> slashx1896: what do tou wnat to learn?
[10:27] <onkarshinde> reign: starnge
[10:27] <reign> ok, possible my card has strangly stopped working ?
[10:27] <topyli> reign: sure it's possible. boot from a live cd and see if it works
[10:27] <slashx1896> hmm
[10:28] <slashx1896> something intresting and cool about ubuntu
[10:28] <reign> yeah i tried that too topyli, didnt detect it
[10:28] <cYcLoNeZz> slashx1896 why ubuntu specifically ? why not other distros ?
[10:28] <topyli> reign: but that's a breezy live cd right? maybe some other distro might
[10:28] <fdelacruz> hi any roblem with the repo?
[10:28] <slashx1896> i wish i could get my ipod working.. but i tryed plenty of times gtkpod just wont read it
[10:28] <reign> ok i see your point
[10:29] <onkarshinde> slashx1896: Have you ever tried running two GUI sessions at same time? Applications->System Tools->New Login in a nested window
[10:29] <reign> ill try with my older version
[10:29] <slashx1896> cause this is a ubuntu room... and i just got unbuntu 2 days ago
[10:29] <topyli> reign: like a system rescue mini distro like "system rescue cd-rom"
[10:29] <cYcLoNeZz> slashx1896 .. so your first linux system ?
[10:29] <fdelacruz> I update my systems with apt-get update and I got some errors with some erepo
[10:29] <onkarshinde> fdelacruz: paste your errors in pastebin
[10:29] <cYcLoNeZz> fdelacruz is it gpg error ?
[10:29] <reign> k brb ill try that
[10:29] <slashx1896> cyclonezz, yea this is my frist linux system. i got some stuff done in 2 days lol
[10:29] <darker-shadow> he still saw that the "xserver-xsorg" is not installed
[10:29] <topyli> reign: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[10:30] <slashx1896> onkarshinde, wats the advantage?
[10:30] <darker-shadow> say*
[10:30] <Madpilot> later, all
[10:30] <onkarshinde> slashx1896: I use it sometimes. I just thought you wanted some cool thing.
[10:30] <reign> hmm brb
[10:30] <onkarshinde> darker-shadow: I asked you to install it.
[10:30] <slashx1896> onkarshindemm yeah im just wondering if there was an advantage
[10:31] <mt_holden_ss> slashx1986> u can dual boot xp and ubuntu
[10:31] <cYcLoNeZz> slashx1896 there is ... no need to log out before logging in as another user
[10:31] <mt_holden_ss> use xp for itunes and xp apps
[10:31] <slashx1896> i dont see New login in a nested window
[10:31] <RancidLM> hey .. how hard is  it to compile a kernel in ubuntu.. iv never compiled a kernel before.. for i was warned to do it as a suse user?
[10:31] <mt_holden_ss> use linux for linux purpoes
[10:31] <slashx1896> nvm
[10:31] <slashx1896> lol
[10:32] <slashx1896> i c it
[10:32] <slashx1896> cyclonezz: yeah... but im the only one who uses this pc
[10:32] <fdelacruz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ is this the site for pastebin?
[10:32] <ajmitch__> RancidLM: do you have a reason to?
[10:32] <onkarshinde> fdelacruz: yes
[10:32] <cYcLoNeZz> slashx1896 cool things are rarely useful .. :P
[10:32] <RancidLM> ajmitch: the current kernel im running was compiled with gcc3 rather then 4
[10:32] <ajmitch__> RancidLM: for a good reason
[10:33] <onkarshinde> slashx1896: there are some very good apps. Like gaim (if you have never used before), totem, then there is something called gdesklets
[10:33] <topyli> RancidLM: that's no reason :)
[10:33] <RancidLM> and i heard that theres a speed diffrince with a custome compiled kernel
[10:33] <ajmitch__> RancidLM: why would that drive you to recompile?
[10:33] <ajmitch__> ah, more urban legends :)
[10:33] <RancidLM> speed.. performance
[10:33] <RancidLM> ..
[10:33] <topyli> RancidLM: i heard that too, around 1999 or so
[10:33] <ajmitch__> just because you compile it yourself, doesn't make it automatically faster
[10:33] <ajmitch__> and compiling with gcc4 is more likely to get you stability issues
[10:34] <RancidLM> ok.. really i just wanna be the smart at my lug.. ok.. the truth is out..lol jk
[10:34] <slashx1896> i used all of them but gdesklets
[10:34] <topyli> RancidLM: it's a useful exercise of course, go ahead
[10:35] <onkarshinde> slashx1896: gdesklets is similar to Apple's Dashboard widgets
[10:35] <ompaul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5216  anyone care to help me kill that package?
[10:35] <topyli> except gdesklets are (used to be?) intolerable resource hogs
[10:36] <Almindor> how do I re-install a package with adept??
[10:36] <slashx1896> i changed what i want, not something cool but something usefull :P
[10:36] <topyli> Almindor: apt-get install --reinstall foo
[10:36] <ompaul> Almindor, sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:36] <Almindor> that's not with adept :)
[10:36] <slashx1896> i would want to learn to dualboot, but i delted my windows xp partitions... accidently why installing ubuntu
[10:36] <topyli> Almindor: what is adept?
[10:36] <robotgeek> ompaul: weird. dpkg -l | grep epiphany . compiled package?
[10:37] <ajmitch__> topyli: kde synaptic equivalent
[10:37] <onkarshinde> ompaul: never use dpkg direct to uninstall packages. use apt-get instead
[10:37] <raphink> Almindor: I beleive you're not in the right place to ask about adept -> #kubuntu
[10:37] <Almindor> the "oh so cool new" graphical package manager which is in as it seems pretty incompetent
[10:37] <Almindor> I'll do it with apt
[10:37] <onkarshinde> ompaul: and you can try pressing Ctrl+C to stop that
[10:37] <ompaul> ii  epiphany-browser                      1.8.2-0ubuntu1
[10:37] <raphink> Almindor: adept if for kde, go ask on #kubuntu
[10:38] <robotgeek> sudo apt-get remove epiphany-browser ?
[10:38] <topyli> Almindor: if it'a anything like synaptic, the right click menu gives a reinstall option. it's also in the "package" menu
[10:38] <ompaul> robotgeek, that makes sense
[10:38] <Almindor> no
[10:38] <Almindor> it has only "keep, uninstall"
[10:38] <topyli> Almindor: i guess it's too young. give it a couple of years :)
[10:38] <raphink> topyli: it's not like synaptic, it's a different approach, and I don't think it supports reinstall so far
[10:38] <raphink> it's very new
[10:39] <robotgeek> ompaul: it's weird that dpkg -P worked? there's something else called epiphany?
[10:39] <mt_holden_ss> would konfabulator work gor ubuntu
[10:39] <robotgeek> ompaul: epiphany - Clone of BoulderDash Game
[10:39] <topyli> oh yeah, i was thinking about kynaptic? there is such a thing?
[10:39] <ompaul> robotgeek, it worked
[10:39] <robotgeek> ompaul: :)
[10:39] <raphink> robotgeek: that or the epiphany package doesn't remove files properly
[10:39] <darker-shadow> i configured the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again
[10:39] <topyli> robotgeek: try epiphany-browser
[10:40] <ompaul> topyli, I did it is gone I am now happy
[10:40] <raphink> topyli: kynaptic is not good. there's kpackage too
[10:40] <robotgeek> topyli: not me, ompaul. i guess it's fixed now
[10:40] <mt_holden_ss> konfabulator?
[10:40] <ReleaseX> when i play videos in firefox the clip just goes white
[10:41] <jonathon> anyone know anything about gstreamer?
[10:41] <reign> well i dont seem to have an older live cd here , but the breezy live cd doesnt detect my network card :/
[10:41] <onkarshinde> jonathon: what do you want to know?
[10:42] <jonathon> onkarshinde: i upgraded my distro from hoary to breezy and now my gstreamer doesnt work it says run gst-register but it doesnt exist
[10:43] <onkarshinde> jonathon: I suppose it is 'gstregister'
[10:43] <topyli> reign: first of all, it's a hotplug bug to be reported. then you could dig in to /etc/modprobe.d and start debugging :)
[10:45] <reign> well im not greatly clued up on how to do all that topyli
[10:45] <jonathon> onkarshinde damn how obvious was that.... its gst-register-0.8
[10:45] <jonathon> thanks for the idea
[10:46] <aleitner> does anybody know of a simple method to install banshee 0.9.12 that does not involve uninstalling f-spot or compiling from source?
[10:46] <aleitner> (for breezy, that is :)
[10:46] <PerOxyd> hello
[10:46] <topyli> reign: hey! i think a colleague with the same chip on her laptop had the same problem after upgrade. never solved it, rescued an old mac powerbook and installed breezy there.
[10:47] <topyli> reign: but that's a laptop. i'm not sure the chip is exactly the same as mine
[10:48] <reign> topyli in the GUI: if i go to device manager, it does actually list the network card
[10:48] <reign> does that mean anything ?
[10:48] <reign> but driver is unknown
[10:48] <topyli> reign: IIRC it showed up for her too, but she never got an ip address from the university dhcp servers
[10:49] <reign> i guess ill get another network card, what would you recomend ?
[10:50] <reign> what make etc..
[10:50] <darker-shadow> onkarshinde, i installed "xserver-xorg" and "xserver-xsorg"
[10:50] <topyli> reign: actually it even showed up on her system-admin-network dialog too
[10:50] <reign> oh mine doesnt show there
[10:51] <darker-shadow> it's still not working but now it's frozen.
[10:52] <topyli> reign: an older, big-name card. no clones
[10:52] <Elektrochelovek> biesas.adminas.net/~justinas/video/extreme-holly-puke-guzzle-trailer.wmv
[10:52] <Elektrochelovek> ;] ] 
[10:52] <Elektrochelovek> haha
[10:52] <Elektrochelovek> good video, watch when eating
[10:52] <reign> 3com ?
[10:52] <topyli> for example, yeah
[10:52] <onkarshinde> darker-shadow: what do you mean by frozen?
[10:53] <reign> k, is there no modules i can download maybe for my card ?
[10:53] <topyli> reign: not really, it uses the module you have
[10:53] <stevejesus> oh goody.  Ive got aol 5.0 on ubuntu 64.  haha
[10:53] <darker-shadow> when the linux load him self the screen does shut him self, that all.
[10:56] <NoobieDoobieDo> Anyone get Firefox 1.5 yet ?
[10:57] <onkarshinde> NoobieDoobieDo: read topic
[10:57] <darker-shadow> i must go now sorry bye. (back 1-2 hours)
[10:57] <onkarshinde> darker-shadow: I am not understanding the problem at all. sorry can't help you.
[10:57] <NoobieDoobieDo> onkarshinde, That doesn't mean someone hasn't been able to use it.
[10:58] <NoobieDoobieDo> Just trying to see if anyone had tried it.
[10:58] <onkarshinde> NoobieDoobieDo: I am using it on Windows. But I am sure you are not asking for that
[10:58] <NoobieDoobieDo> Any big differences from the last version ?
[10:58] <darker-shadow> the screen is shut down, when the linux load him self. that is the problem
[10:59] <onkarshinde> NoobieDoobieDo: quite big, http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.html
[10:59] <NoobieDoobieDo> onkarshinde, I'd already read that but thanks. I was wanting a hands on account.
[10:59] <NoobieDoobieDo> Like, does the browsing feel faster ?
[10:59] <onkarshinde> darker-shadow: what display card? Did you mess with xorg.conf?
[11:00] <topyli> anybody know of a graphical eq for gstreamer?
[11:00] <cyphase> anyone know where i can get screenshots of the OS X installer?
[11:00] <cyphase> eq?
[11:00] <topyli> equalizer
[11:00] <onkarshinde> NoobieDoobieDo: It is faster. drag n drop tabs. auto update.
[11:00] <cyphase> ah
[11:01] <onkarshinde> NoobieDoobieDo: faster because FF 1.5 is based on Gecko 1.8, while 1.0.x was based on Gecko 1.7
[11:01] <mt_holden_ss> wat do u guys use ubuntu for?
[11:01] <darker-shadow> i configed the xorg.conf , so i mess with him yes
[11:01] <mt_holden_ss> can google desktop work on ubuntu?
[11:01] <Elektrochelovek> mt_holden_ss: for everything;] 
[11:01] <cyphase> mt_holden_ss, no
[11:01] <mt_holden_ss> damm
[11:02] <cyphase> mt_holden_ss, what do you need from google desktop
[11:02] <NoobieDoobieDo> onkarshinde, IC.  I just dl'd it. Don't have to install it and so on, just run the ./firefox.  I like that.
[11:02] <cyphase> search?
[11:02] <fdelacruz> sr heres my first encounter error when updating my system check this link http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5218
[11:02] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: use beagle
[11:02] <cyphase> there's Beagle
[11:02] <cyphase> yea
[11:02] <darker-shadow> with the order: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:02] <mt_holden_ss> just wanted to have a search bar at the top
[11:02] <scanwinder> does anyone know what channel i should go in 2 get some help setting up my 5.1 channel surround sound?(i cant seem 2 get linux to play nicely with my soundcard)
[11:02] <cyphase> you can
[11:02] <cyphase> deskbar-applet
[11:03] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: deskbar-applet searches all sorts of web services, and beagle
[11:03] <onkarshinde> mt_holden_ss: try beagle
[11:03] <topyli> mt_holden_ss: and it launches gnome apps too
[11:03] <mt_holden_ss> ok ill try beagle
[11:03] <darker-shadow> i must go now for two/one hours.
[11:03] <onkarshinde> scanwinder: And what is problem exactly?
[11:03] <fdelacruz> sr this my second error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5219
[11:03] <mt_holden_ss> im about to re-formatt
[11:04] <mt_holden_ss> 95% finished download of ubuntu 5.10
[11:04] <scanwinder> onkarshinde: well im ony getting sound through the front right speaker and the sub
[11:04] <onkarshinde> darker-shadow: perhaps you chose too high resolutions which are not supported by your monitor.
[11:04] <scanwinder> onkarshinde: ive tried messing around in alsa mixer but cant get it to work
[11:05] <eth42> does anyone know where bugs for the core distribution of 5.04 should be filed? malone or bugzilla?
[11:05] <onkarshinde> scanwinder: see if your card is supported here http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[11:05] <Hobbsee> !tell eth42 about bug
[11:06] <onkarshinde> eth42: for 5.04 it is bugzilla. But why don't you just upgrade to 5.10?
[11:06] <eth42> well, I will soon
[11:06] <scanwinder> onkarshinde: it is supported
[11:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> How can you tell what version of Ubuntu your using ?
[11:06] <eth42> onkarshinde: but if there's a bug that may also be a problem for others
[11:06] <eth42> Hobbsee: thanks
[11:06] <mt_holden_ss> clcik system the about
[11:06] <Hobbsee> eth42: no problems
[11:07] <onkarshinde> fdelacruz: try changing mirror
[11:07] <mt_holden_ss> click system then about ubuntu it should tell u wat  version u got
[11:08] <Jowi> hello all. compiling kernel 2.6.12. all goes well. However, the graphics driver cle266 is missing. anyone know why?
[11:08] <onkarshinde> scanwinder: have you enabled alsa as default architecture for sound? System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector ?
[11:09] <fdelacruz> onkarshinde how can I change mirror or where can I get other mirror
[11:09] <NoobieDoobieDo> hi all
[11:10] <scanwinder> onkarshinde: yes its the default architecture
[11:10] <onkarshinde> fdelacruz: mirror list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive changing: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and disable (add #) deb-src lines.
[11:10] <cyphase> :)
[11:11] <onkarshinde> scanwinder: there is a speaker icon to upper right of desktop. Right click it, select Open Volum control. See if all the channels are enabled.
[11:11] <fdelacruz> k i wil try it thank
[11:12] <scanwinder> onkarshinde: yes, ive enabled them all, yet i still dont get sound with all of them
[11:13] <onkarshinde> scanwinder: I don't know very well about multi channel systems. may be it is hardware problem.
[11:14] <Jowi> i found a patch for via dri and cle266 but that patch only applies to a 2.6.12 and not the 2.6.12-10 that is apted with ubuntu
[11:14] <scanwinder> onkarshinde: ok..... i mite try it in windows....just for troubleshooting purposes
[11:14] <fdelacruz> onkarshinde I already disable the deb-src thing and still got same error
[11:14] <onkarshinde> fdelacruz: fter disabling deb-src did you do 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[11:15] <fdelacruz> yup
[11:16] <purplefeltangel> i am getting no sound in wmv; can someone tell me how to fix this?
[11:16] <WildPenguin> NoobieDoobieDo, 'lsb_release -r' to check ubuntu's version
[11:16] <NoobieDoobieDo> WildPenguin, Thank you.
[11:17] <Badm4n> i'm using ubuntu 5.10 .... how to make my own login picture ? ( i only can change slash screen with my own pic ... ) now i want to change my login screen ... how do that
[11:17] <onkarshinde> purplefeltangel: what are you using to play it?
[11:18] <purplefeltangel> onkarshinde: tried in both totem and mplayer
[11:18] <onkarshinde> purplefeltangel: have you installed totem-xine and w32codecs?
[11:18] <purplefeltangel> onkarshinde: yes
[11:19] <onkarshinde> fdelacruz: sorry, can't treally help you. Just try changing mirrors and doing apt-get update until you don't get any problem.
[11:19] <onkarshinde> purplefeltangel: then may be file is not good.
[11:20] <purplefeltangel> onkarshinde: i dont know about that. its from a forum, and is a fandub of an anime, so obviously people were commenting on the sound . . .
[11:20] <onkarshinde> Badm4n: go to System->Preferences. There must be something as login photo or about me.
[11:21] <Badm4n> login photo is that tha wallpaper ubuntu for login screen ? or just icon of user ?
[11:22] <onkarshinde> Badm4n: I am not remembering exactly
[11:22] <fdelacruz> onkarshinde k thanks but but actually sr before I encounter that I already update my other other system, I update about 11am so 3 hrs after that I encounter so conclude that the repos is the problem but anyway I will try it tom hope it will be successful thaank
[11:22] <WildPenguin> Badm4n, neither
[11:22] <Badm4n> OneFix_Work:
[11:22] <Badm4n> WildPenguin: onkarshinde : hmmm it should be tar.gz :( how to put my jpg into it
[11:23] <WildPenguin> Badm4n, swap current theme background with new pic, but ensure they have the same name
[11:25] <Jowi> ubotu, tell me about splash
[11:28] <WildPenguin> Badm4n, installed themes go to /usr/share/gdm/themes - in dir of the current theme, replace the background image with your own (should be in same format or you will need to edit the xml)
[11:28] <guillem101> !splash
[11:28] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[11:28] <Badm4n> i c
[11:28] <Badm4n> thx i'll try it now
[11:29] <hadi> real player doesn't work! ( sound is locked by another process)
[11:29] <deFrysk> Badm4n, or install gtweakui
[11:29] <calamari> hi.. Installing firefox gives me this error.. is it serious?: Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...E: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions/installed-extensions.txt still present. Registration might have gone wrong.
[11:30] <deFrysk> calamari, firefox1.5 ?
[11:30] <hadi> calamari.. yeah me too
[11:30] <calamari> DeFrysk: yeah
[11:30] <deFrysk> i had it too but only on first boot
[11:30] <N6REJ> I'm trying to use "bittorrent 4.0" to download the amd64 dvd iso and its just sitting there doing nothing... is this normal?
[11:30] <calamari> okay cool
[11:30] <deFrysk> calamari, just click ok , wont happen again
[11:31] <calamari> then I suppose I've successfully created a firefox 1.5.0 .deb :)
[11:31] <calamari> that was quite the adventure
[11:31] <guillem101> N6REJ, IMHO, let it be a while....
[11:32] <hadi> Seveas, i use sarge how can i switch to ubuntu?
[11:32] <calamari> do you think anyone else would be interested in having a deb version of 1.5 ?
[11:32] <N6REJ> guillem101: should it have a green triangle?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> calamari: not sure how you would have created a deb, but that seems to be an error that happens a fair bit
[11:33] <calamari> Hobbsee: through a lot of work :)
[11:33] <Hobbsee> calamari: did you really also compile it with a makefile and all that?
[11:33] <calamari> nope
[11:33] <N6REJ> is there a version of ubuntu that support OLD hardware.  I've got an ancient p2-350 i850 controller and S3Virge agp that aren't working in breezy...
[11:33] <calamari> just extracted the files and combined things with the 1.0.7 deb
[11:33] <calamari> tweaking to get it right
[11:34] <Hobbsee> er, ok then...
[11:34] <deFrysk> I used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for firefox1.5
[11:34] <calamari> I wrote a script to automate the process
[11:34] <Hobbsee> deFrysk: that's a way easier way to do it lol
[11:34] <hadi> DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT SWITCHG FROM SARGE TO UBUNTU?
[11:34] <deFrysk> Hobbsee, sure is ;)
[11:34] <calamari> since afaik, I can't legally distribute my deb
[11:34] <deFrysk> hadi, my ears pop :!
[11:35] <calamari> deFrysk: yeah.. I guess the only real difference is that I have a package installed
[11:36] <WildPenguin> hadi, what do you want to know?
[11:36] <ktogias> Hi, Is firefox 1.5 going to come to ubuntu repositories as an update or backport?
[11:36] <vbgunz> !help
[11:36] <calamari> ktogias: yes
[11:37] <hadi> WildPenguin, can i just add ubuntu's repository and update?
[11:37] <calamari> ktogias: In the meantime, you can do  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion  or I've also created a deb package creation tool
[11:37] <WildPenguin> hadi, generally not a good idea
[11:38] <BigKahuna> Anyone has trouble mounting fat16 USB thumb drives?
[11:38] <ktogias> Thanks calamari, I have already 1.5 installed in my account (not system wide) as wiki suggests...
[11:38] <hadi> WildPenguin, why?
[11:39] <WildPenguin> version compatibility is a probem, and if the idea is to completely change from debian to ubuntu, best to do it safe
[11:40] <hadi> WildPenguin, safe u mean just backup, remove debian, install ubuntu?
[11:41] <Myrtti> best way to install Linux is to keep /home on a different partition ;.)
[11:41] <topyli> upgrade from debian woody might work since it's so old. sarge i'm more sceptical
[11:42] <kania> hi, I'm a Windows guy trying to install libgdiplus for mono testing
[11:42] <kania> how do I install it via apt-get ?
[11:42] <stevejesus> kania, apt-get install nameofpackage   im not sure if that one is available
[11:42] <Badm4n> pplz :D thx
[11:43] <Badm4n> it's works
[11:43] <Badm4n> only neeh to change the .png
[11:43] <Badm4n> thx alot
[11:43] <stevejesus> anyone know where i can find a good howto on making a deb?
[11:43] <kania> how can I list available packages ?
[11:43] <Hobbsee> kania: apt-cache search, or synaptic
[11:44] <kania> ok, I try it now
[11:44] <hadi> how can i create a partion without formating my hd
[11:44] <stevejesus> googling is unsuccessful, need a good howto for making debs
[11:45] <topyli> stevejesus: google vor "debian new maintainers guide"
[11:45] <LinuxN00bie> hello ppl
[11:45] <stevejesus> topyli, thank you so much
[11:45] <kania> ok, done... Thanks Hobbsee :-)
[11:45] <Hobbsee> kania: no problems
[11:45] <LinuxN00bie> everytime when i startup my ubuntu hoary there's an "Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" ...can anybody plz tell me how to solve this?
[11:45] <kania> Cool, I have a WinForm running on Linux !!!
[11:45] <kania> Amazing :-)
[11:46] <Badm4n> why my ubuntu always set default back to default setting when i log off ... did i must [x] save current setting every time i logoff / reboot ?
[11:48] <LinuxN00bie> everytime when i startup my ubuntu hoary there's an "Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" ...can anybody plz tell me how to solve this?
[11:50] <mp3god> http://www.westroo.com/blah/
[11:50] <LinuxN00bie> and everytime when I boot, I can see "Starting web server (Apache 2)....[OK] " but when I type "localhost" in my browser, it doesn't connect, I hv to type "sudo killall apache2" then "sudo apache2" to start the server again
[11:50] <boo> hey
[11:50] <boo> i need some help
[11:50] <boo> i just installed ubuntu, and my res is stuck at 640x480
[11:50] <boo> any other res. is unavailable
[11:51] <mp3god> download all u want http://www.westroo.com/blah/
[11:51] <Jowi> LinuxN00bie: hal might not be started. "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start"
[11:52] <boo> can anyone help ;/
[11:52] <Mart> when i try to install nvidia graphics drivers i get telling me it cannot find the kernel-source.
[11:52] <Jowi> LinuxN00bie: on my system (breezy) the dbus is /etc/init.d/dbus start
[11:52] <boo> my resolution is stuck on 640x480
[11:52] <LinuxN00bie> hmm
[11:52] <Mart> how do i know which source it needs?
[11:53] <redxninja> I have a question
[11:53] <Hobbsee> redxninja: just ask it...
[11:53] <redxninja> when I restart the computer, it says that stopping deferred excecution scheduler failed
[11:53] <Jowi> ubotu, tell boo about resolution
[11:54] <vbgunz> A plugin I am trying to build for Gaim I believe has failed. It stated a warning about GTK+ and when I searched Synaptic for it, so many hits came back (no GTK+), I just went ahead... The plugin isn't working so I messed up... How do I get GTK+?
[11:54] <redxninja> can someone tell what is a deferred excecution scheduler is?
[11:55] <Hobbsee> vbgunz: apt-cache search gtk dev
[11:55] <calamari> hmm.. certain things do seem to be broken with installing 1.5 that way.. can't open links from xchat anymore
[11:55] <vbgunz> hobbsee is that all?
[11:56] <mp3god> http://www.westroo.com/blah/
[11:56] <Wildpenguin_> Mart, are you using .deb or the .bin binary?
[11:56] <LinuxN00bie> "Error! Failed to initialize HAL" always appear when I login
[11:56] <Hobbsee> vbgunz: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[11:56] <vbgunz> Hobbsee: this is what returns: GTK+ 2.0 is required to build ignorance; please make sure you have the GTK+ development headers installed.
[11:56] <Hobbsee> vbgunz: had to find the right file first!
[11:57] <Hobbsee> that should do it, the libgtk2.0-dev
[11:57] <vbgunz> Hobbsee: thank you very much, I hope this works!
[11:57] <LinuxN00bie> Jovi, Hal is already started
[11:57] <Hobbsee> vbgunz: no problems, i tried compiling firefox with it this morning, and it seemed ok
[11:57] <LinuxN00bie> "Error! Failed to initialize HAL" still appears
[11:57] <NanoBCN28> hi people. I'd like to make security copies of ps2 games dvds, anyone here has done it?
[11:57] <Wildpenguin_> LinuxN00bie, what is the output from 'hald'?
[11:57] <calamari> ktogias: still here?
[11:57] <redxninja> nobody?
[11:57] <Jowi> LinuxN00bie: then i don't know what can be wrong. dbus should take care of hal.
[11:58] <vbgunz> so it is called libgtk2.0... why couldn't they just tell me that :P... Searching for GTK+ in Synaptic was a pain and a hassle..
[11:58] <LinuxN00bie> wildpenguin_ nothing..
[11:59] <Hobbsee> vbgunz: nah, apt-cache search works way better, and it was always going to be a lib, have gtk in it, and was likely to end in -dev for the development files - that doesnt leave too many possibilities
[11:59] <calamari> ktogias: does right clicking this link, and choosing "Open in web browser" work for you?  http://kidsquid.com/
[11:59] <alissah> i got my winmodem installed but there is no sound when i dial out.  even used the command ATL3M1DT... to dial by hand, but no sound?  am i missing something obvious?
[11:59] <vbgunz> Hobbsee: man... I think this isn't going to work... one sec please
[12:00] <LinuxN00bie> there's no output from "hald" then i typed it in the terminal
[12:00] <Hobbsee> vbgunz: sure, but my experience is pretty limited with compiling for gtk, seeing as i use kde...
[12:00] <N6REJ> how can I make ubuntu search for installed printers?
[12:01] <Jowi> vbgunz: "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev" should do it
[12:01] <vbgunz> Hobbsee: I understand. one sec, I hope this works... am going ahead with it now
[12:01] <vbgunz> Jowi: thanks!
[12:02] <LinuxN00bie> now my problem is that i get "Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" and whenever i put in my CDs, it won't automount, besides that, i wonder if that is related to my apache2 server won't start, although I can see "starting web server (apache2)...[ok] " something like that on bootup
[12:02] <LinuxN00bie> but whenever i type "localhost' in my browser it just won't connect, i hv to sudo killall apache2, then sudo apache2 again to make it work
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> LinuxN00bie: tried putting your public ip in?
[12:04] <LinuxN00bie> ye it work...lol thx
[12:04] <LinuxN00bie> what bout HAL
[12:07] <Jowi> LinuxN00bie: this might be a longshot, but try it: "sudo hald --daemon=yes"
[12:08] <LinuxN00bie> Jowi, it still won't automount
[12:08] <Jowi> ok... oh well :-)
[12:08] <LinuxN00bie> well, automount or not, i don't really care, but i really don't like the "Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" everytime I start my ubuntu hoary
[12:09] <LinuxN00bie> that's the most annoying thing lol
[12:09] <Zukero> switch to breezy :)
[12:10] <LinuxN00bie> zukero, yea but ... can SCIM work nicely on breezy?
[12:10] <Zukero> whats SCIM ?
[12:10] <LinuxN00bie> the input method thing
[12:10] <ApesMa> I'm following the Linux Wacom project's instructions for setup, but am stumped at the GIMP configuration part--it says "no extended input devices" when I try.  Where should I look next?
[12:10] <Zukero> i don't have a clue
[12:11] <LinuxN00bie> Zukero, www.scim-im.org
[12:12] <LinuxN00bie> how i wish that "Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" "nag sceen" can juz disappear by itself
[12:13] <dragoonz> hey, I was wondering if I could get ethernet over USB male-male cord
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, IIRC
[12:13] <dragoonz> ah
[12:13] <dragoonz> any reason why not?
[12:14] <boo> jowi thanks a ton
[12:14] <boo> :)
[12:14] <Jowi> boo: you're welcome
[12:14] <boo> one more question though, i have windows on another drive, and i cant see the files.  i could with suse (it was under a folder in file system called windows)
[12:15] <LinuxN00bie> hey guys, nobody really know how to solve the "Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" problem? I
[12:15] <dragoonz> boo: you have to mount the ntfs partition
[12:15] <boo> what would i use to do that
[12:15] <Jowi> I finally found a special 2.6.12 kernel and a epia patch that seems to work. compiling now (crosses fingers)
[12:15] <dragoonz> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1886.html
[12:16] <Jowi> !windowsdrives
[12:16] <ubotu> well, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:17] <allison> can someone help me with audio player ?
[12:17] <pawan> where are the optional deb files stored after install?
[12:17] <allison> :)
[12:17] <allison> PJ ?
[12:17] <pawan> allie?
[12:17] <bimberi> pawan: /var/cache/apt/archives     most likely
[12:17] <allison> Is that PJ ?
[12:18] <siorai> lol
[12:18] <pawan> bimberi: moinmoin-common doesn't keep its deb there.
[12:18] <allison> Pawan > PJ
[12:18] <siorai> Everytime I see a female name on IRC, I'll always think of the bash.org quote, "I'm skinny for an IRC chick" hahahah
[12:18] <pawan> allie: yup. like in pyjamas
[12:19] <allison> lol
[12:19] <allison> shit
[12:19] <allison> how r u doin ?
[12:19] <scanwinder> is there a way 2 reset everything in alsa-mixer to defaults?
[12:19] <bimberi> pawan: less likely then :P
[12:19] <allison> > mir here
[12:19] <orso> ubuntu es el mejor
[12:19] <siorai> how am _I_ doing?
[12:19] <pawan> mirak: whoa. You picked up an ubuntu cd?
[12:20] <allison> lol
[12:20] <allison> I downloaded it
[12:20] <allison> lol
[12:20] <xored> hello. I used dss authorisation with my server under windows through putty. Now iam on debian and iam wonder how to connect to the server. ssh -i keyfile etc fails on the parafrase. But as i edited the file, the ppk file is just for putty. How to get a file which is ready for ssh under debain ?
[12:20] <pawan> allison : over that crappy link?
[12:20] <allison> someone told me that it took three months to get the cd mailed, even if I signed up for the freebies
[12:20] <Zukero> LinuxN00bie : it looks awesome, i'm learning japanese
[12:20] <osfameron> xored: you mean like ssh-keygen ?
[12:20] <allison> puhlease > I have adsl now
[12:20] <dragoonz> anyone know of a large channel for windows support?
[12:20] <Zukero> it would be good for me
[12:20] <allison> ;)
[12:20] <LinuxN00bie> Zukero, lol
[12:20] <osfameron> it took a little under 2 months iirc
[12:20] <siorai> where do the cds get shipped?
[12:20] <mahangu> allison, i got mine in under a month
[12:21] <mahangu> allison, and im in sri lanka
[12:21] <allison> 3 days into ubuntu
[12:21] <LinuxN00bie> Zukero, me...need it to input chinese characters
[12:21] <chema> In my business is vey improtant de estetic of aou computer. To port my system to linux, y need put like background one movie. In windows its easy, its posible with linux?
[12:21] <siorai> WTF? nooooo X-chat auto corrects my "teh"s and turns em into 'the'
[12:21] <pawan> allison : wow. what a heroine. Order a cd anyway
[12:21] <allison> mahangu > ain't it good !!
[12:21] <allison> I did
[12:21] <LinuxN00bie> Zukero, i dunno but they say scim is not really good on breezy
[12:21] <pawan> allison : well, I guess I'd better help you with sound, since I got you into ubuntu anyway.
[12:21] <allison> but I guess its gonna be next year that I will get it
[12:21] <allison> hahaha
[12:21] <Zukero> LinuxN00bie : i'll check that on my breezy later (this evening maybe (now :12:30))
[12:21] <mahangu> alindeman, oh, i thought you were complaining :)
[12:21] <xored> osfameron: i just generated a dss key to that time. I dont know exactly. Iam using key authentication with paraphrase, so dss, right ?
[12:22] <Zukero> i'll tell you if i manage to do something good
[12:22] <allison> PJ > u know what Ish did help me to config the sound...n then it was working on and off..................
[12:22] <LinuxN00bie> Zukero, good luck installing it on breezy :D
[12:22] <siorai> Where do the cds get shipped from?
[12:22] <boo> trying to mount a ntfs part, when i type in sudo mount -t ntfs /win/c /dev/hda1 it says mount point does not exist
[12:22] <Zukero> but i have other stuff to install first (cvs version of e17)
[12:22] <allison> and then suse cud not detect the audio card after update
[12:22] <LinuxN00bie> lol
[12:22] <Hobbsee> boo: mkdir /win/c
[12:22] <allison> PJ > really frustrating it was !
[12:22] <Hobbsee> boo: sudo mkdir /win/c
[12:23] <boo> already have it
[12:23] <boo> im not sure if hda1 is right
[12:23] <pawan> ok, but x is running now in breezy, right?
[12:23] <chema> there are some chane to talk about this themes?
[12:23] <allison> Pj > now I am trying to figure out which player to install to play mp3s !!!
[12:23] <LinuxN00bie> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Error! Failed to initialize HAL!" <<<<<<<<<<<<
[12:23] <pawan> allison : xmms is the old staple, like winamp.
[12:24] <Jowi> boo: "sudo fdisk -l" should give you clear info
[12:24] <boo> what exactly does hda1 mean?  disk one?
[12:24] <boo> ok
[12:24] <allison> pj > I have xmms
[12:24] <allison> but it ain't working
[12:24] <boo> shit your smart
[12:24] <boo> oh
[12:24] <boo> lol hda instead of hdd
[12:24] <Jowi> boo: hda is your entire harddisk. hda1 is first partition, hda2 second and so on...
[12:24] <pawan> allison : ok, so, does alsamixer do anything (from command line) ?
[12:24] <mahangu> alindeman, have you tried killing the sound daeomon?
[12:24] <boo> ah  so if its not partitioned its hdd?
[12:25] <mahangu> allison, killall esd
[12:25] <mahangu> in the shell
[12:25] <mahangu> also XMMS needs to be set to the correct sound card
[12:25] <boo> says /windows/C is not a block device
[12:25] <calamari> there.. I've added my ff 1.50 deb creator tool to the wiki :)
[12:25] <allison> PJ > I have configured any audio/sound card, as yet ...ubuntu has detected all during the install .....
[12:25] <Jowi> boo: no, generally you must specify a partition.
[12:25] <allison> have not I mean
[12:25] <pawan> allison: yup, like mahangu says
[12:25] <Jowi> check that fdisk -l to see which one is the ntfs one
[12:26] <boo> it says /dev/hdd1 is
[12:26] <allison> PJ > I need to understand this repository installation of extras better !! :(
[12:26] <pawan> allison: ok, from command: dpkg -s esd     - if it says not installed , is good.
[12:26] <Jowi> boo: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /win/c
[12:27] <allison> mahungu > Xmms gave me the headaches in suse ! lol
[12:27] <pawan> allison: nah. you just install and remove packages from system->administration->synaptic
[12:27] <xored> osfameron: can you help ?`
[12:27] <mahangu> allison, xmms rocks for me. most simple audio player ive used. i guess i also like it b/c of its similarities to winamp 1.x
[12:27] <boo> you do not have permission to view the contents
[12:27] <boo> =/
[12:28] <pawan> allison: the dpkg line I told you was just a simple short cut to tell me the status of esd.
[12:28] <Jowi> boo, check this link out:
[12:28] <Jowi> !windowsdrives
[12:28] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:28] <Jowi> that will save you some time
[12:28] <allison> PJ >Package `esd' is not installed and no info is available.
[12:28] <allison> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[12:28] <allison> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[12:28] <osfameron> xored: oh, I usually get confused myself
[12:28] <mahangu> allison, do a killall esd, what do you get?
[12:28] <mahangu> in the console
[12:29] <osfameron> xored: I usually man ssh-keygen
[12:29] <pawan> allison: kewl. so esd is not to be worried about. Now we tackle the set-to-correct-sound device in xmms
[12:29] <allison> I haven't done the kill esd....just ran the dpkg -s esd....
[12:29] <allison> PJ > alright
[12:29] <LinuxN00bie> guys, i'm installing ubuntu hoary on a very old pentium 199Mhz, and my question is, can it run smoothly??
[12:29] <osfameron> xored: you have to put your private key in .ssh/authorized_keys or something, the public one on the server you connect to.  But I always have to reread the manpage to check, sorry
[12:29] <xored> osfameron:  thank you
[12:30] <mahangu> LinuxN00bie, should be able to, but with a light window manager. also, why not use breezy?
[12:30] <mahangu> LinuxN00bie, you can use IceWM or fluxbox or something similar
[12:30] <pawan> allison : oh, yeah, and you need to make sure no other sound programme is running, ie trying to grab the sound. I don't think there will be anything, but make sure you don't have something like two or three xmmss trying to run at the same time
[12:30] <LinuxN00bie> mahangu thx, coz i hv only the hoary cd
[12:30] <allison> PJ > none open at the mo
[12:31] <mahangu> pawan, if she kills the esd i doubt it'l be a problem?
[12:31] <mahangu> pawan, unless XMMS died ungracefully(my coinage :)
[12:31] <allison> haha
[12:31] <mahangu> LinuxN00bie, well get a breezy one? download an .iso?
[12:31] <Jowi> need to see if the new kernel works. bbl
[12:31] <pawan> mahangu : she doesn't even have esd there : dpkg -s esd showed not installed.
[12:31] <LinuxN00bie> mahangu, i need scim to be running
[12:32] <allison> PJ > thats right
[12:32] <mahangu> pawan, which is wierd, since breezy/hoary install by default iirc
[12:32] <mahangu> LinuxN00bie, and...?
[12:32] <boo> ok it works.  will it appear on startup now?
[12:32] <leboo> am I doing something wrong? Error creating feature "file:/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.jdt.source_3.1.1/". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.jdt.source_3.1.1/feature.xml (No such file or directory)] 
[12:32] <pawan> mahangu: ulp. maybe it is lurking under a funny name. Lemme check.
[12:32] <LinuxN00bie> mahangu, can scim be installed and used in breezy just like as it is in hoary?
[12:33] <mahangu> pawan, libesd0
[12:33] <vbgunz> anybody here use IRChelper or Ignorance for Gaim?
[12:33] <LinuxN00bie> i'm installing ubuntu and when i tried to parition my drive, it fails
[12:33] <LinuxN00bie> why???
[12:33] <intelikey> !info scim
[12:33] <ubotu> scim: (Smart Common Input Method platform), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1240 kB, Installed size: 3224 kB
[12:33] <NoobieDoobieDo> LinuxN00bie, Does it deliver an error message?
[12:33] <pawan> mahangu : what about esound ?
[12:33] <mahangu> allison, check if libesd0 is installed
[12:33] <mahangu> it should be
[12:34] <pawan> allison: dpkg -s libesd0
[12:34] <pawan> allison: and dpkg -s esound       too
[12:34] <allison> LinuxN00bie > be very careful .....I wiped out my entire XP OS and all the files with it !!!! :(
[12:34] <boo> uggg crap no codecs :(
[12:34] <pawan> allison: kewl.
[12:34] <allison> Pj > checking now
[12:34] <boo> haha allison i just did that
[12:34] <mahangu> pawan, yeah esound looks possible too
[12:34] <cantona> !info openoffice.org
[12:34] <ubotu> openoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6707 kB, Installed size: 28920 kB
[12:34] <LinuxN00bie> NoobieDoobieDo, yeap, wait a sec...i need to get to the partitioning screen
[12:35] <LinuxN00bie> allison, nah..my files are not important lol
[12:36] <boo> ok im a complete noob, i need to know how to install a codec. i have a few .so and .h files, and an install.sh file.  what do i do =/
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !tell boo about multimedia
[12:37] <mahangu> boo, what's the codec? i think you can just get the w32codecs package for most
[12:37] <allison> well > thankfully most of my real important stuff are uploaded > whew !!
[12:37] <boo> i need everything i think
[12:37] <boo> where is the package
[12:37] <allison> PJ > Package `libesd0' is not installed and no info is available.
[12:37] <pawan> allison: can you do an lspci and remind me what soundcard you have there?
[12:37] <allison> ok
[12:37] <mahangu> ubotu, tell boo about w32codecs
[12:37] <Moyang> Hullo~im a comer
[12:38] <allison> PJ > Package: esound
[12:38] <allison> Status: install ok installed
[12:38] <allison> Priority: optional
[12:38] <allison> Section: sound
[12:38] <allison> Installed-Size: 100
[12:38] <allison> Maintainer: Ryan Murray <rmurray@debian.org>
[12:38] <allison> Architecture: i386
[12:38] <allison> Version: 0.2.36-1ubuntu5
[12:38] <allison> Depends: libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libesd0 (>= 0.2.35) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.35), libwrap0, esound-common (>= 0.2.36-1ubuntu5)
[12:38] <allison> Description: Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries
[12:38] <allison>  This program is designed to mix together several digitized
[12:38] <allison>  audio streams for playback by a single device.
[12:38] <boo> .deb archive type not supported
[12:38] <boo> =/
[12:39] <xored> i created to pairs dsa now, called connect and connect.pup. where should i copy the connect ( server ?) and the pub ( client? ) ?
[12:39] <pawan> allison: don't paste soo much or the bot will throw you off
[12:39] <allison> Pj > 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH 6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[12:39] <allison> Pj > oops....alright :)
[12:40] <LinuxN00bie> allison, u're gonna get kicked for pasting here :)
[12:41] <allison> LinuxN00bie > what's the worst that could happen ? ;)
[12:42] <LinuxN00bie> allison the last time i was here, i pasted only one line, and...nalioth kicked me
[12:42] <pawan> allison : ok, run alsamixer from the command line and see if volumes are all at 100%
[12:42] <pawan> allison: I don't want to remove esound just yet.
[12:42] <intelikey> and not muted ^
[12:43] <dude2000> does anyone know how difficult it would be to make a triple boot system?  I currently have a dual boot (winxp, mandriva 2005) and I want to try out Ubuntu.  I would like to have the option at bootloader to choose between winxp, mandriva, and Ubuntu.  How difficult is this to do?
[12:43] <intelikey> no troubble at all.
[12:43] <allison> Pj > ok....master was almost full
[12:43] <Zedugh> dude2000, its easy
[12:43] <allison> some were nil
[12:44] <allison> PJ > now all of them are 100 %
[12:44] <LinuxN00bie> dude2000, honestly, it is very very very easy :)
[12:44] <Zedugh> dude2000, as long as you have the disk space
[12:44] <dude2000> do I just intall Ubuntu without bootloader, then configure lilo in mandriva?
[12:45] <Zedugh> dude2000, that will work
[12:45] <intelikey> dude2000 just make some free space on your hdd for ub to make a new partition on and install,   and yes without boot loader.
[12:45] <intelikey> so be sure to choose expert install dude2000
[12:46] <LinuxN00bie> arghh i can't parition my old comp
[12:46] <marty> dude2000, you can always fix bootloader issues afterwards using ubuntu rescue mode
[12:46] <intelikey> yes but no need for that marty
[12:46] <allison> PJ > talk about broadband !! tsk tsk
[12:46] <dude2000> should I let Ubuntu boot loader take over during installation?
[12:46] <pawan> allison : yeah, where was I? Oh, yeah, run alsamixer now
[12:46] <intelikey> installing without changing the boot loader is the eaisest
[12:47] <allison> Pj > all the volumes r 100 %...atleast the adjustable ones!!
[12:47] <LinuxN00bie> guys, during the ubuntu hoary installation, i failed to parition my drive, what could possibly go wrong?????!!
[12:47] <pawan> allison: nah, it's a breezy hardware bug here ;-)
[12:47] <marty> dude2000, yes i would - it will defintely add an entry for windows - you just then need to add the approriate grub entry for mandriva
[12:47] <allison> PJ > blame it on the breeze ! haha
[12:47] <Zedugh> dude2000, you don't need expert mode, but do manually partition. and i don't know about mandriva, but some OSes, like Fedora (and RH) label their partition '/', i don'
[12:48] <intelikey> dude2000 no just install expert and skip the boot loader.    you are used to lilo  and unless you tell it to ub will not install lilo it will install grub.
[12:48] <tucoz> Ah, nice topic. Just what I was going to ask.
[12:48] <marty> dude2000, just copy or print the existing grub/lilo conf for mandriva and jam it into /boot/grub/menu.lst on ubuntu
[12:48] <pawan> kewl. so esc out of alsamixer and go to xmms
[12:48] <allison> Pj > alright
[12:49] <tucoz> Do you happen to know where I could monitor the additions made to dapper?
[12:49] <pawan> allison: I'm just installing xmms on my box so I can see what's where
[12:49] <marty> dude2000, i would still give grub a try - it is much more flexiblein the long run (you can tweak settings while at the boot prompt for one)
[12:49] <boo> i love linux. that is all
[12:50] <tarzeau> boo: and which is your favourite module?
[12:50] <[Jonne] > what's the command to show the gnome process monitor?
[12:50] <intelikey> QUESTION; why the hell are you all trying to get dude2000 to over write his existing boot loader that would work just as good as the one that ub would install  ?
[12:50] <boo> i dont know what a module is lol
[12:50] <allison> PJ > ok
[12:50] <spola> is there any software on linux i can use for incremental backups? I don't want to backup everything everytime ... just the stuff that has changed.
[12:50] <boo> ive been using linux for about 20 minutes but i love it
[12:50] <tarzeau> spola: rsync
[12:50] <LinuxN00bie> lol @ boo
[12:51] <boo> are there any disk image mounting prgms like daemon tools?
[12:51] <taga123> yes  is trhere  a  software   that  create  image  and  restore it??
[12:51] <taga123> yes  is trhere  a  software   that  create  image  and  restore it??
[12:51] <marty> [Jonne] , gnome-system-monitor
[12:51] <allison> Pj > perfect.....mp3s working now !!! :)....ty
[12:51] <tucoz> boo, mount
[12:51] <tarzeau> taga123: dd
[12:51] <[Jonne] > tnx
[12:51] <intelikey> marty you can tweak settings while at the boot prompt from lilo also    duh
[12:51] <tarzeau> boo: mount
[12:51] <taga123> i  2nd the motion  spola
[12:51] <Zedugh> dude2000, you don't need expert mode, but do manually partition. and i don't know about mandriva, but some OSes, like Fedora (and RH) label their partition '/', i don't remember for sure, but ubuntu may too (i think it does by default). If you let multiple partitions have the same label '/', some OSes, (Fedora for sure), initscripts fail, and system won't boot, (I have a 6 or 7 boot system). Ubuntu didn't care about duplicately labeled
[12:51] <Zedugh>  partitions, but the easiest way to insure no probs, is to specify some label other than '/' during manual paritition
[12:51] <boo> oh you can mount disks like that too? sweet
[12:51] <taga123> anybody  knows??
[12:51] <marty> spola, rsync
[12:51] <dude2000> I don't care about the boot loader that much, I just want to have the option to choose between windowsxp, mandriva, and ubuntu.
[12:51] <pawan> allison: huh? wha..? I didn't do anything!!!
[12:52] <boo> now if i only hadnt deleted my windows partition, i would be so happy right now
[12:52] <taga123> maty>>   rsync??
[12:52] <Hobbsee> boo: more people deleting their windows partitions hey?  that's always fun
[12:52] <marty> intelikey, but you can also scan for files, etc etc
[12:52] <allison> PJ > I think it must have been one of the alsamixer volumes....its bizarre cos I already tweaked it ...before
[12:52] <taga123> rsync??
[12:52] <LinuxN00bie> if i fail to parition a drive, what could possibly go wrong? hardware problem?
[12:52] <taga123> what is  that??
[12:53] <tucoz> boo, to mount an iso image do something like this: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[12:53] <LinuxN00bie> windows...boring
[12:53] <intelikey> well dude2000 listen to them,  and when you come back asking how to get grub to boot your windows xp  they will tell you.
[12:53] <spola> is rsync easy to get working ?
[12:53] <intelikey> !boot
[12:53] <ubotu> intelikey: I haven't a clue
[12:53] <tucoz> but you would need to sudo mkdir /mnt/iso before that command though
[12:53] <taga123> ubotu,plsssss
[12:53] <ubotu> taga123: What?
[12:53] <boo> OH SHIT I DELETED STAR WARS
[12:53] <boo> so much worse than deleting windows
[12:53] <pawan> allison: kewl. otherwise I was going to wade through the Veritable Plethora<TM> of outputplugin options in xmms, which is really a guessing game.
[12:54] <taga123> any  software    in linux  that  can create  an image  and  restore it
[12:54] <boo> oh
[12:54] <allison> PJ > whew ! lol
[12:54] <pawan> boo: I hereby allocate a geek medal of the week to you :     *
[12:54] <LinuxN00bie> -.-'
[12:54] <pawan> allison: so x works in proper resolution now?
[12:54] <allison> PJ > next I am gonna try to install mpc ......
[12:54] <allison> yes
[12:54] <marty> dude2000, trust me i have installed dual and quad boot ubuntu using grub - it find windows xp autmagicaly everytime
[12:54] <taga123> software  in linux that create  image and  restore  it
[12:54] <boo> tucoz what about an .img file?
[12:54] <LinuxN00bie> if i fail to parition a drive, what could possibly go wrong? hardware problem?
[12:55] <tucoz> I believe that is the same
[12:55] <allison> almost everything...unlike suse :)
[12:55] <tucoz> As img tend to be iso images
[12:55] <taga123> software  in linux that create  image and  restore  it---anybody???
[12:55] <boo-geekchampion> :)
[12:55] <Zedugh> LinuxN00bie, you just won't be able to use the drive
[12:55] <taga123> not  really..  u  see  in  windows   we use  acronis
[12:55] <truls> hiya
[12:55] <boo-geekchampion> hey
[12:55] <taga123> in linux  is this avialable??
[12:56] <dude2000> What I would like is the path of least resistance for me:  Insall Ubuntu and have the ability at boot to choose from 3 OS's.  The easiest and quickest way to do that is what I would like.  However, this will lead me to want to try other OS's, and I would be interested in learning how to have boot loader start up many Linux OS's.
[12:56] <tucoz> boo-geekchampion, that command means that you mount the image as a loopback device, with filesystem iso9660 to the directory /mnt/iso
[12:56] <allison> PJ> synaptics mouse, hot keys, audio, internet....impeccable for the mo !!!
[12:56] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie could you describe the problem for me?
[12:56] <Zedugh> tagal123, yes, let me remember
[12:56] <taga123> :)))
[12:56] <taga123> pls  dooo   remember:)
[12:56] <marty> taga123, http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1375/
[12:56] <taga123> surfing
[12:56] <truls> I notice that since 5.04, it's supposed to be possible to install ubuntu from USB. I have an external usb harddrive, how would I enable that to boot and work as an ubuntu install device?
[12:57] <taga123> tnx   marty..i owe  you A  BEER:))
[12:57] <intelikey> dude2000 as you said install bu but edit your existing lilo would be the easiest.
[12:57] <leboo> #ubuntu-ro
[12:57] <Zedugh> dude2000, once you learn how to add the third, more will be piece of cake
[12:57] <leboo> sorry
[12:57] <soundray> Ubuntu qemu runs dsl-embedded - excellent. I just can't use the mouse. Any hints?
[12:57] <boo-geekchampion> hmm....this movie will not play due to the current parental level setting of the player
[12:57] <boo-geekchampion> not cool
[12:58] <ArDz> personne aurait des liens pour dl des divx (stro forums ou je c pa ?)
[12:58] <soundray> !fr
[12:58] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:58] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie what do you mean 'fail to partition a drive'  ?
[12:59] <Zedugh> dude2000, grub's advantage is you can edit the boot info at boot time, fix minor problems with grubs equivalent of lilo.conf
[12:59] <leboo> !ro
[12:59] <ubotu> No idea, leboo
[12:59] <leboo> lol
[12:59] <pawan> allison: I just figured I could do remote admin for your box too if you ever get really desparate. Kewl.
[12:59] <boo-geekchampion> tucoz, does the mount command work for any type of image? will .bin/cue, .img. .iso ect all work or are there seperate parameters for each
[12:59] <allison> Pj > I tried to do this yesterday but did not work........
[01:00] <allison> PJ > prolly have to config more things
[01:00] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, I'm trying to install ubuntu hoary on a very old pentium 199Mhz, it doesn't hv any cd-rom drive, so i fixed one in, and insert the ubuntu CD, and run the installation
[01:00] <tucoz> boo-geekchampion, I am not sure. Probably. I advise you to google for that, as it is a very common thing to do.
[01:00] <soundray> Has anyone got their mouse working in a qemu virtual machine?
[01:00] <Zedugh> tagal123, look at packages partimage and partimage-doc
[01:00] <LinuxN00bie> but when it comes to the partitioning step, it failes
[01:00] <Zedugh> tagal123, look at packages partimage and partimage-doc
[01:01] <pawan> allison: great. well, don't trust anyone on channel - even if it is someone with my name. Better to use email.
[01:01] <ffeeddee> hi!!!
[01:01] <marty> dude2000, if you print out your lilo.conf from mandriva - you can easily add it to grub using the ubuntu config line as an example
[01:01] <redguy> LinuxN00bie: elaborate on "it fails"
[01:01] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie alt+f3  and see if it gives a reason for the failure..... or f4 even
[01:01] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, i'm trying again...see if it works
[01:01] <allison> PJ> alright.....
[01:02] <ffeeddee> does someone knows about EPSON-EPL6200L and Kubuntu??
[01:02] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, redguy, wait a sec
[01:02] <pawan> allison : wow. I am glad you took up the advice to use ubuntu, and impressed you managed to download and install it.
[01:02] <redguy> ffeeddee: checked on linuxprinting.org?
[01:02] <taga123> hey   zed,,marty...so many   typing to  code
[01:02] <taga123> :))
[01:02] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie ok and if it fails use  alt+f3 or alt+f4 and see if it gives a reason for the failure.....
[01:02] <ffeeddee> redguy: yeah!! many times
[01:02] <marty> dude2000, the main diff is the that grub talks about disks like (hd0,2) which means the same as /dev/hda3
[01:02] <tucoz> boo-geekchampion, the mount command works for different types of filesystems (iso, ntfs,fat etc). There are a number of different paramters, but the format of the command is the same.
[01:03] <ffeeddee> downloaded the downloadable but it doesn't work
[01:03] <ffeeddee> s
[01:03] <boo-geekchampion> Thanks :)
[01:03] <redguy> ffeeddee: well, is it supported?
[01:03] <marty> taga123, but ghost or altiris then ;-)
[01:03] <boo-geekchampion> mmm i love not having to hit apply
[01:03] <ffeeddee> that is what linuxprintig said..
[01:03] <pawan> allison: but the principle behind me being able to do remote admin to your box is that you install sshd. Then I can ssh into your machine and do stuff. Only change your password to something better before you install sshd - I seem to remember you had some particularly pathetic ones, do I don't remember them.
[01:03] <dude2000> can someone tell me why ubuntu gives a differnt way of partitioning?  I think it's called LVM.  (I recently installed it on a old computer)  It's not the usual root, ext3, swap like other linux distos.
[01:03] <boo-geekchampion> and is there any docking function?
[01:04] <boo-geekchampion> im used to having GAIM docked to the right
[01:04] <allison> PJ> well, If I stuck longer with Suse...I don't know what I would have done...give up prolly
[01:04] <allison> PJ > I guess u remember....lol
[01:04] <BigKahuna> what packages are need to use Xine as the defult engine for mp3 playback?
[01:04] <BigKahuna> needed
[01:04] <marty> dude2000, LVM is not compulsory - it is a way to allow you exntend and change your volumes without having to reformat
[01:04] <pawan> allison: hey, let's move to channel #mir
[01:05] <Zedugh> dude2000,most new distros include LVM, you don't have to use it
[01:05] <Arinux> hey all
[01:05] <intelikey> hey Arinux
[01:05] <marty> dude2000, with lvm you can have say a single 1 terabyte partition spanning 5 x 200GB drives
[01:06] <boo-geekchampion> OMG my keyboard buttons work!
[01:06] <marty> (and have 5 x times the risk ;-)
[01:06] <Arinux> guys i am new to ubuntu can anyone help me with java installation and usage
[01:06] <dude2000> marty, does this give it the ability to intall a lot more software?
[01:06] <intelikey> !java
[01:06] <dude2000> intall
[01:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:06] <marty> Arinux, apt-get install java
[01:07] <Arinux> it says couldn't find package java
[01:07] <intelikey> !repos
[01:07] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:07] <Boo> how do you integrate gaim with natuilus
[01:07] <marty> apt-cache search java | less
[01:08] <Beleys> Poy
[01:08] <spola> can i change the amount of time gsudo (or whatever asks for my password all the time) remembers my password ?
[01:08] <marty> apt-get install java-common
[01:09] <intelikey> spola in /etc/sudoers i think.   'man sudoers '
[01:09] <marty> spola, use visudo - change 15 to whatever
[01:09] <dude2000> what I mean to say is, i think the LVM simplifies a linux installation by putting as one partition instead of 3 separate ones that are each limited.  this seems to make it more flexible.
[01:09] <bimberi> Arinux: (for Java runtime) Applications -> Add Application -> Internet -> More programs... -> Java Web Start 1.4
[01:09] <spola> thx
[01:10] <Arinux> no i want the compiler for j2se
[01:10] <spola> if i put it to 0, will it remember never or always ?
[01:10] <soundray> marty, don't guess, let Arinux read ubotu's links.
[01:10] <dipnlik> my friend installed ubuntu but cannot make sudo commands because of a getbyhostname() error. we know that this can be solved by editing the /etc/hosts file, but how can we edit it if we cannot execute sudo commands?
[01:10] <intelikey> Arinux did you look at the links ubotu posted ^
[01:10] <mp3god> http://www.westroo.com/blah/
[01:10] <spola> dipnlik, boot with the install cd and go to a shell ?
[01:11] <blue-frog> dipnlik, boot in recovery mode
[01:11] <spola> btw i dont see a 15 in visudo ?
[01:11] <bimberi> Arinux: ok, Blackdown j2sdk1.4 is available in the multiverse repository
[01:11] <oskude> spola, me neither :)
[01:12] <BigMonkey> How can I install some commercial fonts in ubuntu?  I've installed them on Red Hat systems before. Any pointers?
[01:12] <intelikey> dipnlik you could also boot single
[01:12] <dipnlik> will ask my friend to try that, spola and blue-frog , thanks
[01:12] <redguy> spola: try searching for '15' in the sudo manpage
[01:12] <spola> ok
[01:12] <oskude> spola, the variable seems to be "timestamp_timeout"
[01:12] <mp3god> http://www.westroo.com/blah/ - download mp3s figured i share them before i deleted them off my server
[01:13] <mp3god> you can scan them they are clean
[01:13] <spola> yay thx !
[01:13] <marty> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[01:13] <marty> ,timestamp_timeout=999
[01:13] <tucoz> BigMonkey, maybe you could ask ubotu: /msg ubotu fonts
[01:13] <darker-shadow> how am i remove the ubuntu?
[01:13] <Arinux> yup got the sun link
[01:13] <blue-frog> dipnlik, /etc/hosts and etc/hostname
[01:13] <oskude> spola, and " If set to a value
[01:14] <oskude>                    less than 0 the users timestamp will
[01:14] <oskude>                    never expire"
[01:14] <bimberi> Arinux: k :)
[01:14] <oskude> hups
[01:14] <intelikey> darker-shadow you asking about purging ubuntu from your system ?
[01:14] <cmug> Anyone experienced kde3.5 and a bug that doesnt let one back on the computer after Lock Screen?
[01:14] <marty> darker-shadow, you put something else in its place
[01:14] <BigMonkey> tucoz - Thanks!
[01:15] <dipnlik> blue-frog: /etc/hostname is fine, contains opteron which is the machine name
[01:15] <dude2000> ok, I'm going to install ubuntu on spare space on my HD without boot loader and I'm going to see if lilo under Mandriva will recognize it.  I hope this works.  Thanks for the help.
[01:15] <darker-shadow> so doe's delete the partitions?
[01:15] <intelikey> darker-shadow yes
[01:15] <BigMonkey> tucoz - where do I do that? in this forum?
[01:15] <oskude> spola, and in "man whatever" you can search by typing "/" and then what you wanna search. and by typing only "/" again, searches again the last search string
[01:15] <LinuxN00bie> ok while waiting for the installation to go on, i hv a question, i used windows 98SE, and everytime i didn't shutdown properly, then the "bluescreen" scandisk appeared, I skipped it, and if i always do this to my windows 98SE, now I want to install ubuntu hoary on that same comp, get rid of windows, is it related to the problem i mentioned just now, fail to partition my hard disk?
[01:15] <tucoz> BigMonkey, no, in this channel
[01:15] <Boo> how do you integrate gaim with natuilus
[01:15] <spola> oskude, thx :-)
[01:15] <marty> darker-shadow, but make sure your bootloader doesn't use those parittions
[01:15] <dipnlik> blue-frog: /etc/hosts needs that 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain opteron line
[01:15] <BigMonkey> tucoz thanks
[01:16] <tucoz> just write /msg ubotu question
[01:16] <wolverian> Boo, enable the nautilus extension in the gaim settings
[01:16] <dipnlik> blue-frog: or something like that
[01:16] <blue-frog> dipnlik, at least yes
[01:16] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie no
[01:16] <wolverian> (I have no idea why it's not enabled by default.)
[01:16] <soundray> cmug, I've had a similar thing with a different setup.
[01:16] <darker-shadow> thanks
[01:16] <soundray> cmug, do you need a workaround?
[01:16] <Boo> what exactly does that do?
[01:16] <cmug> soundray, please
[01:17] <LinuxN00bie> correction: actually it's not fail to _partition_, u need to format after u do the partitioning right? I can't format
[01:17] <cmug> soundray, worked in gnome
[01:17] <lsh> guyz is kubuntu supposed to autodetect my broadcom wireless card?
[01:17] <wolverian> Boo, I don't know. :)
[01:17] <blue-frog> linuxboy, hoary or breezy?
[01:17] <Boo> lol
[01:17] <Boo> :P
[01:17] <soundray> cmug, can you switch to a text console? (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
[01:17] <cmug> soundray, yes
[01:17] <linuxboy> blue-frog: breezy
[01:17] <wolverian> Boo, maybe it enables dragging from nautilus to gaim chat windows to send files? I don't know really.
[01:17] <wolverian> Boo, google. :)
[01:17] <N6REJ> I need some help, I've got a strange situation.... my /etc/fstab shows all my mounts, but now when I do df -h it doesn't show any of them even though they appear to be monted!
[01:17] <blue-frog> linuxboy, sry wrong person...
[01:17] <Boo> i dont support monopolies :P
[01:17] <lsh> anyone using BROADCOM wireless card successfully?
[01:18] <linuxboy> blue-frog: :P
[01:18] <blue-frog> LinuxN00bie, hoary or breezy?
[01:18] <N6REJ> lsh which chip
[01:18] <LinuxN00bie> hoary
[01:18] <marty> lsh, prob not - i heard most people use ndiswrapper and install the windows driver
[01:18] <soundray> cmug, run 'ps ax' there and look for instances of xscreensaver or similar.
[01:18] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, now i know why, i can't mount my filesystem
[01:18] <cmug> soundray, ok
[01:18] <cmug> and just kill xscreensaver?
[01:18] <N6REJ> current ndiswrapper in repositroy works well
[01:18] <blue-frog> linuxboy, u'd better get breezy, either by download or to your nearest newspaper agent
[01:18] <soundray> cmug, find the process ID and enter 'kill 1234' or whatever the pid is.
[01:19] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, why can't I mount my drive??
[01:19] <Bouncy_> is there anyway to access a running install script through ssh that was started from the physical computer.?
[01:19] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie it is 'mke2fs -c /dev/hd?# '   where the ? is a letter like a or b  and # is a number of the partition 1 5 and so on...    and you need to make sure you don't have it mounted first.
[01:19] <linuxboy> blue-frog: i got breezy :P
[01:19] <cmug> soundray, there is no xscreensaver running ..
[01:19] <soundray> cmug, any other line that could correspond to the locking process?
[01:20] <blue-frog> LinuxN00bie,  u'd better get breezy, either by download or to your nearest newspaper agent
[01:20] <Boo> hahahaha i didnt delete windows
[01:20] <Boo> woot
[01:20] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie you can do that for  tty2    alt+f2
[01:20] <cmug> xscreensave: 14:19:36: already running on display :0.0 (window 0x60000e) from process ???.
[01:20] <cmug> i think xscreensaver is defunct
[01:20] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, thx i'll try
[01:20] <Sonderblade> does ubuntu have some gui for configuring hotplug?
[01:20] <Bouncy_> is there anyway to show the output from tty1 on pst.?
[01:20] <marty> lsh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:20] <Bouncy_> is there anyway to show the output from tty1 on pts/0 sorry
[01:20] <intelikey> LinuxN00bie add -j for journal if you want ext3 in place of ext2
[01:21] <truls> ack, trying to copy the install-files of breezy over to a usbdisk... but it can't handle the symlinks
[01:21] <truls> and cp won't make standard files of them (directories)
[01:21] <bungle> hi all
[01:21] <intelikey> 'mke2fs -c -j /dev/hd?# '   <--- makes ext3
[01:22] <marty> Bouncy_, cat /dev/tty1 ???
[01:22] <N6REJ> anyone help me with a mount problem?
[01:22] <intelikey> truls is can  use the switch and it will derefferance the symlinks
[01:22] <scanwinder> ive got a VIA 8237 onboard sound controller and, i cant get my front center speaker working, anyone know how2 fix this? it works under windows on my brothers computer but not on my comp under ubuntu
[01:22] <marty> Bouncy_, or xconsole?
[01:22] <truls> intelikey: no, then it just complains that vfat doesn't support hardlinks
[01:23] <intelikey> not hard links dereferance
[01:23] <cion> hey all I need a good software to manage albums, anyone?
[01:23] <cmug> auth.log : localhost kcheckpass: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=1000 tty=:0 ruser= rhost= user=cmug
[01:23] <truls> intelikey: i know, but thats the error message
[01:23] <oskude> N6REJ, if "mount" shows that they are mounted, and "df" dont show nothing... never heard sry...
[01:23] <intelikey> truls  cp -L
[01:23] <Bouncy_> marty: what happened is im installing ispconfig from tty1 and my monitor died.. its the only monitor that i have. (using laptop at the moment) and that setup is going to need input.
[01:23] <cmug> and I am 100% positive I am typing my passwd proper
[01:23] <truls> intelikey: done that
[01:24] <soundray> cmug, do you have unusual characters in your password?
[01:24] <vbgunz> forget kopete
[01:24] <misieq> is it safe to install kde 3.5 final from kubuntu on debian 3.1?
[01:24] <truls> intelikey: was able to fix it using rsync for copying though...
[01:24] <borup> cion: albums of what? music, photos or...
[01:24] <cmug> localhost kcheckpass[1951] : authentication failure for cmug (invoked by uid 1000)
[01:24] <oskude> N6REJ, what file systems are those that wont show up in "df" ?
[01:24] <cmug> soundray, no
[01:24] <intelikey>  did you try -H
[01:24] <cmug> soundray, plain 0-9, a-Z
[01:24] <truls> intelikey: but that ofcourse duplicates lots of directory structure.. so i need more than the adviced 1024 M on my usbdrive
[01:24] <cion> borup:photos and videos
[01:24] <soundray> cmug, no trailing space?
[01:24] <cmug> no
[01:24] <N6REJ> oskude, let me paste it.
[01:24] <truls> (copying from the install disk
[01:24] <truls> )
[01:25] <Bouncy_> marty: i would also like to see where its upto. etc
[01:25] <intelikey> yeah
[01:25] <jonorn> is it posssible to install ubuntu without a cdrom or network connection ehh... (i have the iso file on the computer and another linux distro)?
[01:25] <marty> Bouncy_, like what is on the screen now?
[01:25] <intelikey> what you need is a real file system on it.  not vfat truls
[01:25] <Bouncy_> marty: yea
[01:25] <truls> jonorn: that's what i'm trying now using a usb disk
[01:25] <blue-frog> jonorn, install from hard drive is possible
[01:26] <jonorn> blue-frog how?
[01:26] <truls> intelikey: followed instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:26] <frogzoo> which is better pls? amule, or xmule ?
[01:26] <Bouncy_> marty: is there anyway to force what is happening on tty1 to the bg and then bring it to the fg on a ssh terminal.?
[01:26] <marty> Bouncy_, not easy - you could set up /dev/console to be serial though
[01:26] <truls> blue-frog: any docs on that?
[01:26] <jonorn> blue-frog: I can't do a netboot since I don't have a hub or anything.... but I have a internet connection.
[01:26] <frogzoo> Bouncy_: ctrl Z    ???
[01:27] <Bouncy_> frogzoo: that pushes it to the backgroud but you can only bring it to the fg from the same tty
[01:27] <misieq> is it safe to install kde 3.5 final from kubuntu on debian 3.1?
[01:27] <soundray> cmug, perhaps KDE assumes a different keyboard layout from your physical one?
[01:27] <blue-frog> jonorn, truls hang on...
[01:27] <Ubel> thanks :)
[01:27] <intelikey> Bouncy_ is it only in screen that you can detach processes ?
[01:27] <cmug> soundray, dont know, maybe. fresh install of kde
[01:27] <boo> hey, does anyone know if i can run cs 1.6 thru wine or another emulator
[01:28] <Bouncy_> intelikey: sorry i dont know what you mean.
[01:28] <Knight_Lord> What's the name of the package that contains the headers for the kernel in breezy?
[01:28] <soundray> cmug, try entering your password as if you had a US or DE kbd.
[01:28] <blue-frog> Ubel, truls http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/sans_cd   i know the site is in french but command lines are commande lines... from chpater 1.2 u need to retrieve the vmlinuz and initrd hdmedia
[01:28] <maurycy> Anyone could recommend VNC client saving the session into .avi file?
[01:28] <intelikey> k   i gota run.  bbl
[01:28] <bungle> forogzoo I tried amule and it was slow never tried xmule
[01:28] <cion> hey all I need a good software to manage albums, anyone?
[01:28] <cmug> soundray, 0-9, a-Z. if its qwerty it works
[01:28] <soundray> cmug, I take it your caps lock is off? ..... sorry, just checking.
[01:29] <cmug> np, i am sure that its off
[01:29] <truls> blue-frog: thanks, but i'm chickening out and trying to find a cdburner somewhere
[01:29] <blue-frog> Ubel, truls it will be very easy if you already have linux installed
[01:29] <Ubel> thanks blue-frog
[01:29] <truls> i use grub though
[01:30] <soundray> cmug, qwertz layout?
[01:30] <truls> ah, thre are instructino for that too
[01:30] <Ubel> well I was always thinking about learning french
[01:30] <boo> hey, does anyone know if i can run cs 1.6 thru wine or another emulator
[01:30] <oskude> maurycy, not exactly that, but have you looked at "istanbul" ? http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[01:30] <cmug> qwerty
[01:30] <xota> can i clipboard directly the exit of a command to a clipboard from console?
[01:30] <bungle> frogzoo, Never used xmule but found amule slow
[01:31] <soundray> cmug, I mean, enter your password as if you had a qwertz keyboard, because many KDE developers do.
[01:31] <marty> Bouncy_, i assume you know about "screen" but that only works with a new session
[01:31] <cmug> ok
[01:31] <Kibou> frogzoo: amule is better
[01:31] <cmug> ill just kill the session and check the keyb prefs
[01:31] <soundray> cmug, failing that, I would try on the console 'killall -9 xscreensaver'
[01:31] <blue-frog> ubel truls we can go overthat in a separate channel if u want...
[01:31] <oskude> xota, apt-cache show xclip
[01:31] <vbgunz> anybody here know of any good all-in-one messengers like Gaim?
[01:32] <Bouncy_> marty: no im just going through the apt-cache for detach now. screen was in there though.
[01:32] <Ubel> blue-frog that would be great
[01:32] <blue-frog> ubel truls it will take 5minutes
[01:32] <maurycy> oskude: There's no a Ubuntu package for it.
[01:32] <Ubel> #I-wish-my-french-would-be-better or something :)
[01:32] <blue-frog> Ubel, truls /join #bluefrog
[01:32] <cmug> soundray, kde had "Enable keyboard layouts" off
[01:32] <cmug> maybe thats why
[01:32] <oskude> maurycy, funny i have it. well i must have installed their deb or so...
[01:33] <cmug> nope, still cant login :(
[01:33] <soundray> cmug, even after killall ?
[01:33] <DESiBELi> my ubuntu box chmodded .ICEauthority file so that i couldnt log in.. but worked after chmodding it back from root... :/
[01:33] <boo> hey, i installed wine thru SPM, but it didnt appear under apps menu, and i cant find out how to open it
[01:34] <cmug> xscreensaver: no process killed
[01:34] <Bouncy_> marty: thanks ive got what i need now
[01:34] <Bouncy_> marty: its weird. im seeing it on the ssh window but typing it on the keyboard attached to the computer
[01:34] <xota> ok oskude thx
[01:35] <cmug> There is a process "desktop_lock" after I kill that, the desktop is not locked anymore
[01:35] <cmug> so much for security :D
[01:35] <Knight_Lord> Is the kernel compiled with gcc 4 or gcc 3?
[01:35] <LinuxN00bie> intelikey, there's a "/dev/hdb5: read failed after 0 of
[01:35] <oskude> maurycy, fyi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xclip&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[01:35] <LinuxN00bie> 2048 at 0"
[01:36] <LinuxN00bie> : input / output error
[01:36] <LinuxN00bie> no matching physical volumes found
[01:36] <soundray> cmug, to secure your box, you have to disable console switching, lock down the bootable drives and USB slots, lock the PC case...
[01:36] <maurycy> oskude: Oh, in fact there's a package. Thanks! I mistyped it. ;)
[01:36] <LinuxN00bie> File descriptor 3, 4 5 and 6 are left open
[01:37] <LinuxN00bie> 2 times
[01:37] <soundray> cmug, physical access always opens security issues.
[01:37] <xota> oskude, I can copy from console and paste in console, but for example, i can't paste on firefox
[01:37] <cmug> true
[01:37] <frogzoo> xota: ctrl v - to paste in ff
[01:38] <Zedugh> cmug, you probably owned the process, or had to sudo to kill it, too
[01:38] <boo> UGG i have school...ill see everyone later
[01:38] <cmug> Zedugh, yea
[01:38] <soundray> Zedugh, good point.
[01:38] <xota> frogzoo, yes, but the text that it paste isn't the text that i paste in console
[01:39] <oskude> xota, sec... got porblems...
[01:39] <frogzoo> xota cut from console with ctrl shift c - then paste into ff with ctrl v
[01:39] <xota> frogzoo, yes, but i like to do auto this action with xclip
[01:40] <frogzoo> xota:  well, there you have me
[01:40] <xota> ok, i do it, xclip -sel clip
[01:41] <vbgunz> anyone here have experience with using wine?
[01:41] <blue-frog> Ubel, make sure u have taken the info from the grub chapter not the lilo one (except if u have lilo of course
[01:41] <frogzoo> vbgunz: very minimally, wassup?
[01:41] <vbgunz> to install wine is it simply apt-get install wine and thats it?
[01:41] <Ubel> yes :)
[01:41] <vbgunz> frogzoo: just apt-get install wine?
[01:41] <frogzoo> !wine
[01:42] <blue-frog> Ubel, and remember not to format the partition where the iso is..
[01:42] <frogzoo>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[01:43] <nikcom> heya peoples
[01:43] <marty> Bouncy_, what is detach
[01:43] <nikcom> what the hell is the differnces between hoary, breezy and and warty?? ive looked everywhere
[01:43] <soundray> Is there an easy way to convert timestamps such as those in dmesg into human readable format?
[01:43] <blue-frog> nikcom, breezy latest
[01:44] <marty> nikcom, just different releases - breezy is the latest stable - go for it
[01:44] <frogzoo> nikcom: warty < hoary < breezy
[01:44] <nikcom> so is there an unstable release?
[01:44] <nikcom> warty?
[01:44] <blue-frog> nikcom, dapper
[01:44] <Ubel> blue-frog, willl the installation automaticly find  on which partitoin I have put the files from the cdrom?
[01:44] <Ubel> (iso file)
[01:45] <frogzoo> nikcom: no - breezy is the latest - then maybe add backports
[01:45] <blue-frog> ubel if it reatcs the same for u than for me yes
[01:45] <marty> soundray, wow i just learned something - that isnew!
[01:45] <Ubel> ahh ok thanks :)
[01:45] <snorks> hi
[01:45] <nikcom> oh ok
[01:45] <nikcom> thanks
[01:45] <blue-frog> ubel it's scanning the hrad drive in fact
[01:45] <xored> somone who is using iptraf for trafficcount and can help me a bit to "read out the traffic" ?
[01:45] <oskude> xota, yup. doesnt seem to work, sec i try something else...
[01:46] <ktogias> In breezy: sudo gparted -> segmentation fault . In hoary also gparted used to crash... Is the program buggy or is it something with my hw that causes the crash? Has anyone gparted working? Is there any alternative graphic partition manager program i could try?
[01:46] <frogzoo> ktogias: hate to be cli fanboy, but what's wrong with fdisk?
[01:47] <blue-frog> ktogias, gparted works fine in breezy, look at how it has been installed
[01:48] <frogzoo> ktogias: also, I'd suggest "sudo strace gparted" :)
[01:48] <Zedugh> ktogias, try cfdisk (in terminal), not qui but more user friendly
[01:48] <ktogias> blue-frog, It is the package comming with ubuntu... I have also tryed sudo dpkg-reconfigure gparted but doesn't solve the problem...
[01:49] <ktogias> Guys, I know and use fdisk... I need something graphical for a newbee friend...
[01:49] <blue-frog> ktogias, must have something else wrong, garted working well
[01:50] <Astxist> anyone know the command to launch gnome from bash?
[01:51] <blue-frog> Astxist, gnome what? xsession?
[01:51] <soundray> Astxist, gnome-session
[01:51] <Astxist> ok thanks
[01:51] <Astxist> save me rebooting everytime I mess with xorg.conf :)
[01:52] <soundray> Astxist, oh, you need something different for that.
[01:52] <Astxist> soundray, hmm?
[01:52] <frogzoo> ktogias: run a strace - there's probably something wierd going on
[01:52] <soundray> Astxist, best to /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:52] <rosa> join /#kanotix
[01:52] <cion> hey all I've uninstalled linux-386 package and installed 686 kernel but it's still tries to update some 386 packages, how do i solve that?
[01:52] <frogzoo> Astxist: /etc/init.d/gdm start      iirc
[01:53] <Astxist> soundray, right
[01:53] <rosa> am i blocked
[01:53] <rosa> ???
[01:53] <frogzoo> nope, hi rosa, wassup?
[01:53] <rosa> hi
[01:53] <marty> rosa , maybe try /join #kanotix
[01:53] <soundray> rosa, the command is '/join #kanotix' :)
[01:53] <frogzoo> rosa, you probably want "/join #kanotix"
[01:54] <ktogias> I have tryed gparted in breezy on 2 different machines... In both cases it crashed... The only common of the two is that the locale is el_GR.UTF-8... But now even with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 gparted, I have segfault... So i think it is not the locale that bother gparted...
[01:54] <rosa> looking how to make one of my players play mp3s
[01:54] <frogzoo> ktogias: check the CD's md5 I guess.... ^_^
[01:54] <cion> hey all I've uninstalled linux-386 package and installed 686 kernel but it's still tries to update some 386 packages, how do i solve that?
[01:54] <marty> rosa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:55] <ktogias> frogzoo, the package came from the online repositories....
[01:55] <rosa> thanx :)
[01:55] <marty> rosa, ubuntu doesn't support patent-encumbered formats natively
[01:55] <rosa> thought so
[01:56] <Knight_Lord> Anyone knows a good mp3 player that can handle big playlists?
[01:56] <marty> rosa, otherwise free ubuntu would cost us $2.50 each time
[01:56] <ktogias> last lines of sudo strace gparted:
[01:56] <Knight_Lord> Amarok and Banshee and too slow
[01:56] <ktogias> poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}] , 2, 0) = 0
[01:56] <ktogias> write(3, "5\30\4\0\273\6\0\5\210\0\0\5\267\1\26\0\233\4\5\0\274\6"..., 192 <unfinished ...>
[01:56] <ktogias> +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
[01:56] <oskude> xota, hmm, it must have something to do with gnomes clipboard daemon... but my short googles didnt mention any tool like "xclip" for gnome...
[01:56] <marty> cat playlist | mpg123 :-)
[01:56] <Knight_Lord> marty always an option :-P
[01:56] <borup> Knight_Lord: rhythmbox works for me
[01:56] <ppo2> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu via USB chip ?
[01:56] <Knight_Lord> borup i'll give it a try
[01:56] <Knight_Lord> thanks
[01:57] <borup> Knight_Lord: but I only have ~6000 songs on this box
[01:57] <marty> if your machine supports booting a USB key
[01:57] <philbilly> error  using make  No rule to make target `Downloads/ndiswrapper-1.5/driver' Suggestions?
[01:58] <ppo2> so i just extract .iso to the usb chip set bios to read usb and thats it ?
[01:58] <cion> hey all I've uninstalled linux-386 package and installed 686 kernel but it's still tries to update some 386 packages, how do i solve that?
[01:58] <Knight_Lord> borup i have about 20000 and the problem is that they are over NFS so it's not very fast to stat them
[01:58] <frogzoo> ppo2: probably should then run grub-floppy
[01:59] <Zedugh> philbilly, cd to src dir (ndiswrapper-1.5)?
[01:59] <Neo^> how do i change the ownership of a folder and it's contents using chown ?
[01:59] <frogzoo> Neo^: chown -R
[01:59] <Knight_Lord> Neo^ chown -R
[01:59] <oskude> cion, are you SURE that there ARE 686 packages for your app that still is 386 ?
[01:59] <philbilly> Zedugh done that
[01:59] <soundray> marty, 1 unit of this stamped time appears to correspond to two seconds.
[01:59] <Neo^> ty
[01:59] <ppo2> i dont have floppy device..:(
[01:59] <Zedugh> philbilly, did you ./configure?
[01:59] <frogzoo> ppo2: USB keys boot as a floppy device ;)
[02:00] <oskude> cion, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <cion> oskude: uhm im newbie so i can't understand your qquestion
[02:00] <philbilly> Zedugh no -i'll try
[02:00] <Neo^> chown: too few arguments
[02:00] <ppo2> hmmm... or i could set grub to read usb..
[02:00] <Neo^> i got that
[02:00] <cion> oskude: what u mean by that?
[02:00] <frogzoo> Neo^: "chown -R $DIRECTORY"
[02:00] <Knight_Lord> Neo^ for example chown -R user.group <files>
[02:00] <cion> should I install 386 ?
[02:00] <boazyeah> hi there!
[02:00] <oskude> cion, look in packages.ubuntu.com for your packages and se if there is a 686 version of it
[02:00] <marty> soundray, i'd say it is a bug - it isn't even "seconds since 1-1-70'
[02:01] <Zedugh> Neo^: chown -R <newuser> <dirname>
[02:01] <frogzoo> ppo2: yep, that sounds a goer
[02:01] <ppo2> someone should do faq on how to install os from usb chip ....:(
[02:01] <Zedugh> Neo^:  or how about man chown
[02:01] <cion> is there a way to that configuring synaptic?
[02:01] <Knight_Lord> ppo2 i agree entirely
[02:01] <Knight_Lord> ppo2 and how to run it from a USB stick also
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> ppo2, there probably is .... google
[02:01] <frogzoo> ppo2: google?
[02:01] <philbilly> Zedugh -./configure not listed in this dir -only Makefile
[02:01] <boazyeah> why do i get the following error when i do gcc -code.c
[02:01] <soundray> marty, I don't believe anyone would embarrass themselves with a bug like that...
[02:01] <Neo^> ty pplz
[02:01] <marty> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootingFromUSB?highlight=%28boot%29%7C%28USB%29
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> Knight_Lord, running linux from usb is on google for a long time ...
[02:02] <Zedugh> philbilly, look for file 'configure' not file './configure'
[02:02] <oskude> cion, im pressty sure that if you use a 686 kernel, apt-get would automaticly install 386 packages of any software that has 686 packages...
[02:02] <oskude> doh
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> boazyeah, why gcc -code.c ? its gcc -o code code.c
[02:02] <marty> soundray, ask on #ubuntu-dev
[02:02] <Zedugh> philbilly, execute file configure by typing ./configure
[02:03] <boazyeah> well, my bad, i have ment gcc -c code.c
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> boazyeah, -c does what ? i am not familiar
[02:03] <boazyeah> it tells me "error:stdio.h: No such file or directory"
[02:03] <philbilly> Zedugh none there -perhaps  I should untar src package? -how do you rmdir with files still in sub dirs?
[02:03] <soundray> marty, I will, thanks.
[02:04] <oskude> philbilly, "rm -r"
[02:04] <Zedugh> philbilly, yes, you must untar src. to delete dir and all contents 'rm -rf <dir>', be careful
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> boazyeah, the reason you do not want to link is ?
[02:04] <boazyeah> c - compile and assemble but do not link
[02:04] <boazyeah> well, i don't know :\
[02:05] <boazyeah> that's what causing the problem?
[02:05] <boazyeah> right?
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> yes ...
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> btw who told ya to -c ?
[02:05] <philbilly> Zedugh there is no config so will del untarred pkg and  start afresh -tnks waring re erasing all!!!
[02:06] <boazyeah> no idea :\
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> boazyeah, i like your style :P
[02:06] <boazyeah> :)
[02:06] <boazyeah> yeah, my style rocks. :)
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> boazyeah, but can i ask you to find out before you actually typing the command ?
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> it scare me :P
[02:07] <boazyeah> no problem!
[02:07] <Tuntis> errrmmh
[02:07] <Tuntis> I have a "big problem"
[02:07] <Tuntis> With an external USB drive
[02:07] <Tuntis> I installed GRUB on my Windows-drive's MBR
[02:07] <boazyeah> btw, thank you wickedpuppy
[02:07] <Tuntis> It tries to boot Kubuntu from /dev/sdd2, but kubuntu doesn't find the drive.
[02:08] <Tuntis> I have some instructions to make it load an USB driver, but I have no idea how to do that without access to the Linux drive...
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> np
[02:09] <philbilly> Zedugh oskude: my rmdir has no switch -r -man page doesnt refer to this also
[02:09] <oskude> philbilly, well, we said "rm -r" not "rmdir -r" ...
[02:09] <yatesy> laff
[02:09] <Zedugh> philbilly, ^
[02:09] <soundray> marty, it's uptime in units of two seconds.
[02:09] <philbilly> Zedugh obviuosly a newbie -sorry
[02:09] <Tuntis> Hello?
[02:10] <Zedugh> philbilly, np
[02:10] <oskude> :) np
[02:10] <maffju> Tuntis, maybe you have to enable usb support in your bios?
[02:10] <Tuntis> I have.
[02:11] <Zedugh> Tuntis, Kubuntu doesn't find drive, or grub can't load kernel?
[02:11] <redguy> Tuntis: you sure you configured grub properly?
[02:11] <marty> soundray, ticks or some such
[02:11] <Tuntis> Default settings, tried changing to /dev/sd2 and /dev/sda2, and Kubuntu doesn't find it
[02:11] <marty> soundray, my last entry reads [4303806.908000]  - so what is this?
[02:11] <Seveas> P3L|C4N0, you there?
[02:12] <Tuntis> what if I get that some recoverycdthingy in the ubuntu dualboot tutorial somewhere in geocities, and check what qtparted says about the drive?
[02:12] <marty> soundray,  00:11:58 up  2:53,  3 users,  load average: 0.32, 0.59, 0.53
[02:12] <soundray> marty, oops, it's different here...
[02:13] <marty> soundray, first is [4294671.196000]  ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050729
[02:13] <soundray> marty, in /var/log/syslog, they are correlated with readable timestamps.
[02:13] <philbilly>  Zedugh:  re untarred and only these files listed :- debian  INSTALL   ndiswrapper.8     README  version
[02:13] <philbilly> ChangeLog  driver  Makefile  ndiswrapper.spec  utils
[02:13] <marty> soundray, last is [4303806.908000]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[02:13] <redguy> Tuntis: you know that grub doesnt understand /dev/hd* /dev/sd*, right?
[02:14] <lockhead> how do i install boost?
[02:14] <lockhead> uses jam or bjam or something likethat
[02:14] <Zedugh> philbilly, read the INSTALL file, see if that helps
[02:14] <Tuntis> Ermm, actually I don't
[02:14] <Tuntis> I'm a beginner.
[02:15] <redguy> Tuntis: what is the exact error message? it would give the answer to Zedugh's quiestion...
[02:15] <Tuntis> ALERT: /dev/sda2 not found! Dropping to a shell! <- something like that
[02:15] <philbilly> Zedugh: nope only points to wiki which I have read - Posts on suject mention could be linux-hearders problem
[02:15] <Zedugh> anyone have problems (timeout) getting to ubuntuforums.org
[02:15] <soundray> marty, you have five-second units, then...
[02:15] <Tuntis> Zedugh, me
[02:16] <oskude> Zedugh, nope, works here
[02:16] <philbilly> Zedugh: ok here
[02:16] <Tuntis> /dev/sda2 is defined in grub on the linux-386-something-loading-part of Ubuntu's load commands
[02:16] <soundray> marty, mine don't end in 000
[02:16] <frogzoo> Tuntis: you need the grub device syntax
[02:16] <Yonatan> Hi there, I need some beginner help - ish: I've just installed ubuntu:server on a machine with about 260Gb of stuff downloaded in it's own /home partition. I'd like to install a command - line ed2k client and another one for BitTorrent... any recommendations? More importantly, I'd like to run a web interface for both of them so I can access them from different computers on my network.
[02:16] <Zedugh> Tuntis, looks like grub config problem
[02:17] <Tuntis> but, the thing is people still have had problems with USB external drives...
[02:17] <marty> soundray, Nov 30 15:18:51 localhost kernel: [4294719.776000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not foundNov 30 15:18:57 localhost kernel: [4294727.096000]  eth0: no IPv
[02:17] <bravo_> working
[02:17] <Glossary> hi, ubuntu is not detecting my printer, why?
[02:17] <marty> soundray, 6 secs diff - dmesg ts changes by 8
[02:17] <bravo_> lexmark x5270?
[02:18] <oskude> Glossary, scnr: the printer is not ON ? ;)
[02:18] <Zedugh> Glossary, r u sure it's not a winprinter?
[02:18] <soundray> marty, maybe I'm off on the wrong track altogether. Too bad #ubuntu-dev is empty
[02:18] <Tuntis> Soo, ermmh, what do I do now?
[02:19] <marty> soundray, also try bugzilla - anyway i have to catch some zzzzzz's
[02:19] <soundray> marty, what, at 15:18 :)
[02:19] <bravo_> lexmark x5270 no worky
[02:19] <marty> soundray, that's UTC - 20 past midnight here DOwn Under!
[02:20] <nfell> question: how can I find out which distribution a pc has?
[02:20] <soundray> marty, UTC is 13:20, but never mind. Good night!
[02:20] <philbilly> nfell  uname -a
[02:20] <Tuntis> (Please I hate these dualboot issues and stuff)
[02:20] <nfell> Linux mp03 2.4.21-243-athlon #1 Thu Aug 12 15:24:15 UTC 2004 i686 unknown
[02:21] <Zedugh> Tuntis, read http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/index.html
[02:21] <frogzoo> nfell: also, cat /etc/issue
[02:21] <Tuntis> uhhhh, you mean... what part?
[02:21] <marty> soundray, i think i pasted from a earlier boot -
[02:21] <bravo_> I am the dual boot expert
[02:21] <nfell> i try
[02:21] <marty> bye all
[02:21] <nfell> Welcome to SuSE Linux 8.1 (i386) - Kernel \r (\l).
[02:21] <nfell> ok, works many thx!
[02:22] <Sensation> hello!
[02:22] <soundray> marty, I see, the ts was local time then.
[02:22] <Tuntis> erm, bravo, could use your help here?
[02:22] <Tuntis> damnit!
[02:22] <oskude> :)
[02:22] <xored> somone who can help me reading out the logs of iptraf with the rddtool ?
[02:23] <Tuntis> Aha, i'm downloading with 1000kb/second from Sourceforge
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> Tuntis, whats ya country and bandwidth ?
[02:23] <Tuntis> Finland 2mb
[02:23] <Tuntis> But the speed is now at 150kb/s :P
[02:24] <nfell> i want to install "intel-ifc7-7.1-8.i386.rpm" its fortran, but i have ubuntu, and need *.deb's... Who can i install "intel-ifc7-7.1-8.i386.rpm"?
[02:24] <oskude> nfell, apt-cache show alien
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> nfell, have you search for it in synaptic yet ?
[02:25] <nfell> yes!
[02:25] <Sensation> I've just sign up to the "Ubuntu Ship It"(10 minutes ago), could someone tell me wheh will i get the mail??
[02:25] <BigKahuna> How to install Microsoft fonts?
[02:25] <nfell> theraes no fortran... i need exactly this version!
[02:25] <philbilly> nfell -just read today and there is pkg to convert RPM to deb starting with letter a -cant remember full name
[02:25] <soundray> Sensation, it'll take a few weeks. I ordered three weeks ago and haven't received anything yet.
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> Sensation, lol 10 min ago ? i got mine after 3 months
[02:26] <maffju> Sensation, in my case it also took about 3 months
[02:26] <Tuntis> ^^
[02:26] <Tuntis> I'm waiting...
[02:26] <Sensation> not the cd's.. the email in which I'll get the pass
[02:27] <Zedugh> Tuntis, hold on
[02:27] <Tuntis> ermh, I meant ubuntu shipit anyways, but can't have too much help :P
[02:28] <Juhaz> do you need that specific fortran compiler?
[02:29] <Sensation> ohh... just arrived the mail.. ;) thanks a lot anyway!
[02:29] <Zedugh> Tuntis, look in file /boot/grub/device.map, see any entry corresponding to your USB drive?
[02:29] <Tuntis> ermh, sure, just tell me a way how to
[02:30] <Zedugh> Tuntis, open a terminal and type 'cat /boot/grub/device.map'
[02:30] <BigKahuna> !msttcorefonts
[02:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[02:31] <Tuntis> where do I exactly get a console (In XP now)
[02:31] <Elektrochelovek> cms
[02:31] <Elektrochelovek> cmd
[02:31] <Elektrochelovek> start->run
[02:31] <Tuntis> Because, it's, Kubuntu doesn't start without the @$@3!! drive
[02:31] <BigKahuna> I getting an error when trying to instal MS core fonts. "Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate" Any ideas?
[02:31] <Tuntis> Erm, I think we are speaking of an "only-for-linux" environment now.
[02:31] <Zedugh> Tuntis, ooh, on xp where is your grub's config file (menu.lst)?
[02:32] <soundray> BigKahuna, you need to enable multiverse.
[02:32] <BigKahuna> soundray, I have, will double check.
[02:32] <Surb> I'm running Kubuntu on a machine with dual processors.  I'm not sure if it recognizes both, how would I go about checking?
[02:32] <Tuntis> I have no damn idea.
[02:32] <MickMcMack> Surb, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:32] <Tuntis> I just installed it on the MBR
[02:32] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've just bought a Wi-Fi router and I would like to set the channel of my Wi-Fi card. When i write #iwconfig wlan0 channel 11 it says me an error.who can help me?
[02:33] <MickMcMack> Surb, And see if there is a cpu0 and a cpu1
[02:33] <soundray> BigKahuna, also, if you've added multiverse recently, rerun apt-get update.
[02:33] <Zedugh> Tuntis, us find file dialog, look for menu.lst and device.map
[02:33] <Surb> There's only a CPU0, any way to get it to recognize the second?
[02:33] <BigKahuna> soundray, Already done that.
[02:33] <Zedugh> use*
[02:33] <MickMcMack> Surb, what kernel do you have?
[02:34] <Surb> Erm, no clue.
[02:34] <MickMcMack> uname -a
[02:34] <Alex_BO> halo?
[02:34] <Surb> 2.6.12-10-386
[02:34] <MickMcMack> What proceessors do you have... ?
[02:34] <Surb> 2 pentium III's
[02:34] <soundray> Any error messages on apt-cache show msttcorefonts, BigKahuna?
[02:35] <MickMcMack> Surb, you will need the 386-SMP
[02:35] <BigKahuna> soundray, Whats the exact command I should be running to check?
[02:36] <soundray> BigKahuna, 'apt-cache show msttcorefonts' ?
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> 686-smp would be what he wants surely MickMcMack
[02:36] <MickMcMack> Surb, Package linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[02:37] <BigKahuna> soundray, It doesn't return anything after running tha command.
[02:37] <BigKahuna> that
[02:37] <Surb> Okay, thanks.
[02:37] <MickMcMack> Kamping_Kaiser, yes, sorry - 386/686, it's all the same to me. \o/
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:37] <Tuntis> Ermh, I didn't find a menu.lst
[02:37] <MickMcMack> Surb, I think you can do " sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp "
[02:37] <soundray> BigKahuna, not even "Unable to locate package msttcorefonts"?
[02:37] <MickMcMack> Surb, which will download, install and reconfigure GRUB with the new kernel.
[02:37] <Surb> Doing that now :)
[02:38] <BigKahuna> soundray, Nope, nothing.
[02:38] <MickMcMack> Surb, then just reboot and see if it works (cat /proc/cpuinfo)
[02:38] <Glossary> Zedugh, its a HP printer
[02:38] <BigKahuna> soundray, The error I get when installing tells me the package is not available but is referenced by another package.
[02:38] <Glossary> Zedugh, 840c Deskjet... and yes its ON
[02:39] <soundray> BigKahuna, have you installed any packages successfully since your last /etc/apt/sources.list change?
[02:39] <Alex_BO> halo???
[02:39] <BigKahuna> soundray, Yup.
[02:39] <Alex_BO> who can help me, please
[02:39] <Zedugh> Glossary, Tuntis, hold on a sec
[02:39] <BigKahuna> soundray, Maybe the package is missing from my local repo.
[02:39] <soundray> BigKahuna, you could check that with ftp.
[02:40] <soundray> BigKahuna, any output on 'apt-cache search nonfree' ?
[02:40] <mijke> hi ;p
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mate
[02:40] <mijke> ^_^
[02:41] <mijke> i installed ubuntu last sunday
[02:41] <mijke> so i though id have a look here ;p
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> welcome ;)
[02:41] <BigKahuna> soundray, Yup nonfree returns an output
[02:41] <mijke> thnx
[02:41] <soundray> BigKahuna, what's your local repo?
[02:42] <BigKahuna> soundray, Singapore. Let me get the exact server name.
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> singapore ?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> me too
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> which server name ?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> i mean which package ?
[02:43] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, msttcorefonts
[02:43] <xored> can somebody give me a quik help with cfgmkr or mrtg  ?
[02:43] <Glossary> Zedugh, aigh man
[02:43] <BigKahuna> soundray, sg.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <Tuntis> I really hope I get Ubuntu to work...
[02:44] <rosa> join /#kanotix.de
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, i have it
[02:44] <soundray> BigKahuna, I suspect there's something wrong with your sources.list.
[02:44] <rosa> how did it go again
[02:44] <soundray> BigKahuna, meantime, do a wget ftp://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts_1.2ubuntu2_all.deb and install the package with sudo dpkg -i msttcorefonts_1.2ubuntu2_all.deb
[02:44] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, You installed or you checked the repo?
[02:45] <Zedugh> Tuntis, can you boot the machine your trying to get Kubuntu to work on, or are you using it now for chat?
[02:45] <Xuwqyz> Those cd's I got for free via mail, can I sell them to people?
[02:45] <BigKahuna> soundray, will give it a try now. Thanks pal!
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5223
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, you can see my sources.list + apt-cache search result
[02:45] <Zedugh> Glossary, have you got package hplip-ppds installed?
[02:46] <Glossary> Zedugh, nop.. im installing it now
[02:46] <goo_> Hello. How do I get Apache to allow for files bigger than 2GB ?
[02:46] <Sensation> goodbye
[02:46] <Sensation> ;)
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> goo_, #apache
[02:47] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, Strange I have the same repos enabled in my sources list.
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, then your apt-cache result is ? not same ?
[02:47] <Zedugh> Tuntis, can you boot the machine your trying to get Kubuntu to work on, or are you using it now for chat?
[02:48] <Tuntis> Oh sorry was eating
[02:48] <Tuntis> Yes
[02:48] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, no, no ouput for apt-cache
[02:48] <Tuntis> I created a succesful dualboot, Kubuntu just doesn't work on the drive
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, apt-get update ? and search again ?
[02:48] <Zedugh> Tuntis, can you boot it while you're still chatting?
[02:48] <Tuntis> No
[02:48] <goo_> wickedpuppy: actually, this is a distro question.. RHEL and such ships apaches that may handle large files, Ubuntu appear not to.
[02:49] <Tuntis> or... what did you mean with that?
[02:49] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, Already tried that, following soundray's advice anyway and installing manually.
[02:49] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, So your in Singapore too?
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, /whois wickedpuppy
[02:49] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem with iwconfig.who can help me?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> goo_, ah ok ... you can ask alright ... but i think apache people can help better ... thats what i think
[02:51] <Cityismine> Hey, how does ubuntu compare to blag
[02:51] <soundray> Alex_BO, read your earlier post. It may be that your driver doesn't support channel switching.
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> Cityismine, blag ?
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> now thats a distro i never heard of ...
[02:51] <Zedugh> Tuntis, well, when you boot it, and get to the menu to choose what to boot, press 'e', use arrow keys and look at grub commands listed to boot your Kubuntu system and write them down, should be 2 or 3 lines, with root(..., kernel..., initrd...,  then come back
[02:51] <Cityismine> blag linux, it's based on fedora
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> Cityismine, ubuntu is based on debian ... wrong distro to compare ?
[02:52] <Tuntis> alright, zedugh
[02:52] <Tuntis> thanks for trying to help me
[02:52] <Cityismine> www.blagblagblag.org
[02:52] <Tuntis>  ** going to check them ** ->>
[02:52] <soundray> Cityismine, well, if it's based on Fedora, I'd say Ubuntu compares favourably...
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Cityismine, ask in #fedora how fedora compare with blagblagblag ...
[02:52] <Zedugh> Tuntis, later
[02:52] <Alex_BO> soundray, i set it with iwconfig and there weren't errors.but when i see the parameters with iwconfig, the channel hasn't changed!
[02:53] <Cityismine> Well, I got ubuntu installed, and I don't wanna delete and reinstall a second linux distro, and then I find out it's not better than ubuntu
[02:53] <soundray> Alex_BO, that's what I mean - it forces the 'auto' policy.
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> Cityismine, don't they have a live cd ?
[02:54] <Alex_BO> soundray, and so...what can i do?
[02:54] <topyli> Cityismine: does ubuntu do what you want? if so, leave it alone
[02:54] <soundray> Alex_BO, do what you wanna do another way.
[02:55] <topyli> Cityismine: if it doesn't you might still want to stick to the major distros that are better supported
[02:55] <Cityismine> Ubuntu does what I want, but I'm a linux newbie, and I just wanna mutimedia oriented distro
[02:55] <ChAdWiCk> quick question, email server?
[02:55] <ChAdWiCk> whats the best for ubuntu
[02:56] <ChAdWiCk> ?
[02:56] <soundray> Alex_BO, why do you want to fix the channel?
[02:56] <topyli> ChAdWiCk: it comes with postifix, nothing wrong with it AFAIK
[02:56] <BigKahuna> soundray, Getting dependency errors trying to install the .deb
[02:56] <whaley|work> exchange..... jk :)
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> ChAdWiCk, eh ah ... best for ubuntu ... actually its like asking whats the best game on windows
[02:56] <topyli>  b<
[02:56] <soundray> BigKahuna, apt-get install <dependencies> ?
[02:56] <ChAdWiCk> well best game on windows is easily tux racer :)
[02:56] <topyli> ChAdWiCk: or do you mean imap/pop server?
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, get the dependencies ...
[02:56] <Alex_BO> soundray, no comment... now it did. i don't know why. now the channel is the one, but i can't extabilish a connection with dhclient
[02:57] <Tuntis> Zedugh!
[02:57] <ChAdWiCk> yes imap/pop
[02:57] <topyli> ChAdWiCk: how many users?
[02:57] <Zedugh> Tuntis, welcome back
[02:57] <ChAdWiCk> like 10
[02:57] <ChAdWiCk> 10 or less
[02:57] <BigKahuna> soundray, wickedpuppy Yeah thanks I should have looked at the error a little longer before I came running for help. Getting the dependency now.
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> ChAdWiCk, then postfix will do
[02:57] <ChAdWiCk> cheers
[02:58] <topyli> ChAdWiCk: i'd go with dovecot. it's small, simple and (thus) secure and light
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, no problem ... if you managed to solve it then i expect a treat at raffles hotel
[02:58] <Tuntis> root   (hd3,1) (enter) kernel /boot/vmlinuz2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/sdd2 ro quiet splash (enter) initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386 (enter) savedefault (enter) boot
[02:58] <ChAdWiCk> dovecot will look that too, thanks guys
[02:58] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, How about a coffee in Geylang?
[02:58] <Tuntis> Notice that it's installed on a partition made for it out from the external USB drive
[02:58] <soundray> Alex_BO, do you see the wireless interface with ifconfig -a?
[02:59] <bonglord> hi everyone!
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, you do geylang for coffee ? eh ah ... wrong thing .. :P
[02:59] <Alex_BO> soundray, yes i can
[02:59] <Zedugh> Tuntis, hold on, need to get a USB stick...
[02:59] <maffju> Tuntis, is it /dev/sdd2 or /dev/sda2, because you first said, kubuntu can't find sda2?
[03:00] <soundray> Alex_BO, can you set a fixed IP address and ping through the interface?
[03:00] <Tuntis> Maffju, I tried switching it to sda2 too
[03:01] <Alex_BO> soundray, now i'm connected to the router with a RJ45 connection
[03:01] <Tuntis> Also, I have 3 ide drives here
[03:01] <Tuntis> both have ONLY 1 partition.
[03:01] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, Actually I live in Geylang - so I'm getting a bit bored with all the "chicken".
[03:01] <Zedugh> Tuntis, have you tried /dev/sda1?
[03:01] <Alex_BO> soundray, so if i ping the router, obviously it will reply
[03:01] <soundray> Alex_BO, ah, great, problem solved then :)
[03:01] <Tuntis> ermh, now that you said I haven't tried anything like that (Ofcourse it was something simple like this, maybe?)
[03:01] <Tuntis> But if it works, how do I config it to be like that in Grub always?
[03:01] <Glossary> Zedugh, ok i have it now what
[03:02] <Alex_BO> soundray, i can disconnect the RJ45 connection for a try
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, good for ya :P i come there one day for coffee then ...
[03:02] <Tuntis> I think it's pretty sweating, this job here :/
[03:02] <Glossary> Zedugh,  its still not detecting anything.. not even the printer port
[03:02] <Zedugh> Tuntis, not sure on xp
[03:02] <soundray> Alex_BO, I won't be able to help much more -- I have a similar unresolved problem here.
[03:03] <Zedugh> Tuntis, in linux its in a file name menu.lst
[03:03] <Alex_BO> soundray, now i'm disconnecting for a try
[03:03] <Tuntis> well, errmm, that sounds bad
[03:03] <Tuntis> Maybe... asking in ubuntuforums.org?
[03:03] <Zedugh> Glossary, start hplip (sudo /etc/init.d/hplip start)
[03:03] <BigKahuna> wickedpuppy, Sure thing, if your an ubuntu guru you can come to my place and get my TV tuner card working. :-)
[03:04] <maffju> Tuntis, it's not difficult, but you first have to try whether it works with sda1
[03:04] <Zedugh> Tuntis, doubt it, mabe google windows grub
[03:04] <maffju> Tuntis, if it works, you can edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:04] <Tuntis> erm, let's just try it now :)
[03:05] <Zedugh> maffju, he's installed grub on an xp partition, no /boot
[03:05] <maffju> Zedugh, oh I see
[03:06] <maffju> Zedugh, I didn't know that that's possible
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> BigKahuna, i am no guru and i have no experience in tv turners ... but you can ask me simple questions i suppose ... i go watch csi ... cya .
[03:09] <Tuntis> Erm
[03:09] <Tuntis> I think it works
[03:09] <Tuntis> but we have one more problem
[03:09] <IRCMonkey999> I installed some documents from the synaptic manager. where do I find them?
[03:09] <Tuntis> It just shows me some BusyBot(whatever it was) and doesn't continue the installation :/
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> IRCMonkey999: documents?
[03:11] <Zedugh> Tuntis, how did you install grub? how many partitions are on your USB drive?
[03:11] <frogzoo> easiest way to get an Enlightenment look to the desktop without a lot of fiddling pls?
[03:11] <Tuntis> Zedugh, I installed it the default way(on the C-drives(winxp) MBR) and the USB drive has 2 partitions
[03:11] <bonglord> i was wondering if anyone here can help me - I'm trying to get the hostnames on my network to work with DHCP but am stuck with what to do..
[03:11] <Tuntis> It just showed me some BusyBox Shell
[03:12] <Zedugh> Tuntis, i mean, did you let the Kubuntu installer install grub? did you execute grub-install or grub-setup...???
[03:12] <Tuntis> I let the Kubuntu installer do it's job
[03:13] <[matrim] > can anyone help me get my WiFi card to work in ubuntu?
[03:13] <Zedugh> Tuntis, ok, what are the two partitions on the USB drive?
[03:13] <Tuntis> What do you mean with that? Other is NTFS for Windows usage and other is ext3(or was it 2?) for kubuntu
[03:13] <frogzoo> bonglord: DHCP uses mac addresses to assign IPs - ifconfig will show your mac address
[03:14] <Tuntis> and the kubuntu partition seems to be /dev/sda1
[03:14] <REDsoxKINDAhere> how do you killalll esd automaticly?
[03:14] <ghb> Is there a way to switch between virtual desktops using the keyboard?
[03:14] <Sonderblade> how do you change the path to which ubuntu mounts usb devices?
[03:14] <frogzoo> [matrim] : maybe just upgrade to breezy will do it
[03:14] <Zedugh> Tuntis, ok, so USB drive partition 1 is ntfs, and partition 2 is ext3?
[03:14] <Grumpah> ghb:  Try ctrl + tab
[03:14] <ghb> Grumpah: Nope, doesn't work. =(
[03:15] <Tuntis> yes
[03:15] <Grumpah> Blameyh.
[03:15] <[matrim] > frogzoo, perhaps, where the upgrade availble on ubuntulinux?
[03:15] <frogzoo> ghb ctrl + alt + arrow
[03:15] <Tuntis> and it also automatically took some LinuxSwap
[03:15] <frogzoo> [matrim] : breezy is the latest ubuntu release
[03:15] <frogzoo> 5.10
[03:15] <Zedugh> Tuntis, is that a 3rd partition on the USB driver?
[03:15] <Zedugh> drive*
[03:16] <Tuntis> Guess so
[03:16] <ndlovu> hi all, any suggestions how to speed up the network device loading at startup (I think it's the dhcp that's slow)
[03:16] <Grumpah> Can anyone ask wine related questions here?
[03:16] <Tuntis> atleast from the dialogs of partition magic, it is(don't worry, I just took space out from NTFS partition for Ubuntu to format)
[03:16] <ghb> frogzoo: Thank you. ^^
[03:17] <frogzoo> ndlovu: look in /etc/network/interfaces - & move your IF to the top
[03:17] <[matrim] > frogzoo, can I upgrade or must I reinstall from scrathc BTW
[03:17] <Tuntis> Disk 4 has four partitions: The NTFS, Linux Ext3, Extended(same size as swap) and Linux Swap
[03:17] <ndlovu> frogzoo: thanks, will try that
[03:18] <Grumpah> Having troubles even opening up the installation packs with wine.. should I download something to fix it?
[03:18] <frogzoo> !tell [matrim]  about upgrade
[03:18] <Tuntis> But, I think the only problem here is it doesn't continue the installation :/
[03:19] <[matrim] > frogzoo, THX
[03:20] <Grumpah> So.. aye or nay?
[03:20] <maffju> Tuntis, I don't understand why there is a BusyBox shell... Is BusyBox somehow included in kubuntu? or is it a normal shell?
[03:20] <maffju> Tuntis, what exactly happened?
[03:20] <Tuntis> no idea, but it just pops up :/
[03:21] <Zedugh> Yes, and your menu.lst (thats small Lst) in probably in your Kubuntu partition in directory /boot/grub. Its probably a bash shell
[03:21] <Tuntis> I switched the kernel line's /dev/sdd2 to /dev/sda1
[03:21] <Tuntis> then some BusyBox popped up
[03:21] <ndlovu> is hotplug generally a good thing to have (I've heard mixed opinions)?
[03:21] <maffju> Tuntis, is there a graphical interface or just text on black screen?
[03:22] <bonglord> how can i add hosts on my LAN if the ip address is configured via DHCP? Won't the IP addresses change everytime they reboot? :-(
[03:22] <Zedugh> maffju, Tuntis (partially) installed Kubuntu on a USB drive, and then when rebooted, didn't boot, fixed grub config to reboot, but installation process did not continue
[03:23] <Tuntis> I guess BusyBox is some temp shell for the installation process's time?
[03:23] <melalcoolique> hi
[03:23] <Tuntis> hello.
[03:23] <bonglord> yo
[03:23] <maffju> Zedugh, I know, but I'm trying to find out where the installation process stopped
[03:23] <Grumpah> Brr.
[03:24] <cibertido> alguien de NOIA?
[03:24] <cibertido> NOIA
[03:24] <Tuntis> Maffju, on the first stage as I couldn't boot Ubuntu
[03:24] <Tuntis> (Kubuntu, I mean)
[03:25] <Glossary> Zedugh, the start didnt work
[03:25] <maffju> Tuntis, what does the shell look like? does it ask for your username or does is it "grub>"
[03:26] <maffju> Tuntis, i mean the prompt
[03:26] <Tuntis> Erm
[03:26] <Tuntis> Maffju
[03:26] <Tuntis> There's nothing on the thing and you just write stuff
[03:26] <Tuntis> no logins, nothing
[03:27] <Zedugh> Tuntis, did you say that changing the grub kernel line to /dev/sda2 did not work?
[03:27] <maffju> Tuntis, ok, i've no idea
[03:27] <ktogias> I had a segmentation fault with gparted in breezy... I just compiled from source the latest gparted-0.0.9 and it works fine... So something is wrong with the breezy package...
[03:27] <Tuntis> Zedugh, yes
[03:27] <Zedugh> Glossary, is the printer connected USB or parallel?
[03:28] <Tuntis> (sda1 pops up the busybox after the kubuntu startup screen is, like, "all done!")
[03:29] <_jason> is there a way to not allow users to use certain commands when they ssh?  (I don't want anyone to sudo ever under ssh)
[03:29] <frogzoo> Zedugh: Tuntis - those should be _grub_ device names
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> _jason: you can add the commands you want the m to run to one of the ssh config files
[03:30] <Zedugh> Tuntis, well, sda1 is the first partition on your USB drive, which is the ntfs partition, need to work on why sda2 doesn't work. Or, why do you have (or need) ntfs partition on the USB drive in the first place
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> i forget wheich one
[03:30] <Tuntis> Because the first partition is for storaging and usage on Windows
[03:30] <Tuntis> but... why the hell did it load some busybox from the ntfs partition?! :O
[03:31] <Zedugh> frogzoo, he has root(hd3,1) which is 2nd partition of USB drive, but on kernel /boot/vmlinuz.... root=/dev/...  u don't use grub device
[03:31] <frogzoo> Tuntis: because it's marked as the active partition?
[03:32] <Zedugh> Tuntis, how big is this USB drive?
[03:32] <Glossary> Zedugh, its Paralell
[03:32] <frogzoo> Zedugh: actually you can - I think grub rewrites the dev name from the map file
[03:32] <Tuntis> Zedugh, 250gb
[03:33] <Tuntis> Oh god this is getting weird
[03:33] <topyli> _jason: your users will only be able to use sudo if you make them members of the admin group
[03:33] <bonglord> how can i add hosts on my LAN if the ip address is configured via DHCP? Won't the IP addresses change everytime they reboot? :-(
[03:34] <frogzoo> bonglord: not if you set the dhcp lease time to several weeks
[03:34] <topyli> bonglord: you can give them static LAN addresses
[03:34] <Zedugh> Tuntis, what error do you get booting with root=/dev/sda2?
[03:34] <frogzoo> best way
[03:35] <_jason> topyli, I've considered that but I use ssh mainly to access my computer from other places so I would like to have access to my stored documents, etc.  I think it may be best to just give read permissions to all on those.
[03:35] <topyli> bonglord: your server has DHCP on eth0 and 192.168.0.1 on eth1 for example
[03:35] <Tuntis> the same alert
[03:35] <_jason> topyli, Kamping_Kaiser thanks for the info
[03:35] <dspstv> yoo, maybe someone knows if i need yaboot to install linux on an old g3 ppc? or are these machines drived via say...an ubuntu livecd?
[03:36] <theD3viL> What i must select in install proggres if i have 1 patrition with no type and wanna install ubuntu on it? Manual partitioning and then ?
[03:36] <Zedugh> Tuntis, sorry, what same alert?
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> _jason: np
[03:36] <IRCMonkey999> where does all the "documentation" from synaptic manager get saved?
[03:36] <Tuntis> ALERT: /dev/sda2 not found, dropping to a shell!
[03:36] <topyli> bonglord: yeah, then the clients can be 192.168.0.2 and so on
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> _jason: if it helps, i saw that info on the wiki
[03:36] <bonglord> wouldn't i have to do that on the router?
[03:36] <frogzoo> theD3viL: just point it at the whole drive & use automatic
[03:36] <topyli> bonglord: then use dyndns.org to bind your dynamic ip to something like bonglord.homelinux.org so you can ssh in from all over the world :)
[03:37] <bonglord> :->
[03:37] <topyli> is what i do
[03:37] <topyli> so i don't have to carry laptops around =)
[03:37] <xored> can someone help me with setting up munin ?
[03:37] <theD3viL> frogzoo, no couse if i do this format all partitions
[03:37] <Tuntis> Oh, I'll be back in about 10 minutes...
[03:38] <nnacht> Hi, does anyone use Fluxbox under Ubuntu?
[03:38] <_jason> Kamping_Kaiser, found it.  perfect.
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> wd
[03:38] <frogzoo> theD3viL: please respec your hd layout
[03:39] <nnacht> why does nothing come out, wenn I start fluxbox?
[03:39] <theD3viL> frogzoo, hm .. ? do you thing that? > 20 GB NTFS > 20 GB unused
[03:40] <Zedugh> IRCMonkey999, after you install a package, then still in synaptic, select (hi-lite) it and click on properties, then the 'Installed Files' tab to see all files for package
[03:40] <IRCMonkey999> Zedugh: ooo.... thank u
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:41] <goh> Hi May I know how to invite more than 1 person into a conversation in gaim messenger?
[03:41] <eternal9> !64
[03:41] <ubotu> eternal9: Are you on ritalin?
[03:41] <ktogias> I there some kind of log where actions taken through apt-get (or synaptic) are recorded? Something like an listallations and upgrades history...
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> goh: right click -> initiate chat
[03:42] <frogzoo> theD3viL: well if it was me... 2gig = "/" 2 gig swap + 8 gig /usr + 8gig /home
[03:42] <eternal9> trying to install nvidia drivers for my amd 64
[03:42] <eternal9> can anyone help me
[03:42] <flint> ktogias, dpkg -l | grep whatever
[03:42] <frogzoo> !a64
[03:42] <ubotu> frogzoo: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:43] <eternal9> !a64
[03:43] <eternal9> nothing
[03:43] <frogzoo> !tell eternal9 about nvidia
[03:43] <rapha> Hi all!
[03:43] <eternal9> that only for glx ?
[03:43] <goh> amping_Kaiser: Tks!
[03:43] <bonglord> thanks for all the help! catch you later!
[03:43] <eternal9> I need for 64 bit
[03:44] <nnacht> again: dones anyone hier use Fluxbox under Unbuntu?
[03:44] <nick01> how do I install gcc and all the needed stuff ?
[03:44] <rapha> I want some Apache web sites to only be available on eth0 and some others only on eth1 ... can somebody help me; I've no idea what docs to read or what to search for on Google
[03:45] <Zedugh> nnacht, hold on a second
[03:45] <frogzoo> !tell nick about build
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> rapha i think you want virtual domains
[03:45] <nick01> nick01
[03:45] <nick01> frogzoo, change it to nick01
[03:45] <frogzoo> !tell nick01 about build
[03:45] <nick01> tks
[03:46] <theD3viL> frogzoo, can i pick up automaticly partitioning but only for 1 partition ?
[03:46] <nnacht> Zedugh, ok, no problem.
[03:46] <frogzoo> theD3viL: not sure
[03:46] <ktogias> flint, not what I have in mind... A few hours ago installed through synaptic some dev packages for some libs in order to sutisfy the dependencies of a configure script. How can I find out what exactly I installed this morning, in order to record it for later reference?
[03:46] <nick01> rapha, use virtual hosts
[03:47] <Tuntis> Urmh
[03:47] <Tuntis> Back...
[03:47] <Tuntis> On the way, I tested sda2 again, no luck
[03:48] <theD3viL> Where can i select default player for firefox? Couse totem dont work for me
[03:48] <frogzoo> Tuntis: everything I've seen mentioned about booting USB says it boots just like a floppy - it's news to me you can boot 2nd partitions etc
[03:49] <frogzoo> theD3viL: install w32codecs
[03:49] <frogzoo> !tell theD3viL about w32codecs
[03:49] <theD3viL> frogzoo, i have install it
[03:50] <goh> Any1 knows if usb live booting is faster than livecd booting?
[03:50] <frogzoo> goh would have to be, no question
[03:50] <jesse__> Hi does anybody know good documentation for R-Linux (Data Recovery Software)
[03:51] <jesse__> or have an idea themselves about the program?
[03:52] <goh> frogzoo: Ok, so does that mean that if I manage to use a usb thumb drv to live boot an ubuntu livecd, it will be a lot faster?
[03:52] <goh> How much faster?
[03:52] <eternal9> what is the difference between k8 and and k8 smp ? for amd64
[03:52] <frogzoo> theD3viL: totem should just work - you sure it's a totem plugin?
[03:52] <frogzoo> eternal9: u only need smp if you have multiple cpus
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> goh,  depends on how slow your cd is. :P and fast your usb thumb drive is.
[03:53] <theD3viL> frogzoo, yes > ** (totem-mozilla-viewer:10743): CRITICAL **: bacon_video_widget_stop: assertion `bvw != NULL' failed
[03:53] <eternal9> k so just k8 then will work for amd 64
[03:53] <frogzoo> Dr_Willis: but my money's on the thumb drive :)
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo,  if you can get a system toboot off one.
[03:53] <frogzoo> :)
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo,  which is still a 'little' rare. :P
[03:54] <jvai> hey every1, a question of backing up data, is simply burning to a cd the "initrd.img.old" & "vmlinuz.old" enuff for a back up?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo,  i got these usb-sony-memory sticks. :( nothing wants to boot off them.
[03:54] <eternal9> now do I want to install all the headers for k8 ?
[03:54] <eternal9> or no
[03:54] <frogzoo> jvai: absolutely not - no way
[03:54] <jvai> no?
[03:55] <frogzoo> jvai: well, what are you backing up?
[03:55] <redguy> jvai: aren't these symlinks?
[03:56] <frogzoo> jvai: those two files are just the kernel - there's no system libraries or bin tools or modules or config files....
[03:56] <goh> What about booting from a hardisk compared to usb live booting?
[03:56] <frogzoo> goh the quickest USB atm is read @ 20MB/s - that's 4x slower than disk
[03:57] <Tuntis> going to force it work ->>>>
[03:57] <jvai> ok i'll have to burn ALL "initrd"  & "vmlinuz" folders.. frogzoo, i just want to back up all my settings/bookmarks, all the changes a made, just in case of a reinstall, of a corrupt'd system
[03:57] <frogzoo> jvai: you need to backup everything from "/"
[03:57] <jvai> ooooo!
[03:58] <mirak> is there a channel for dapper ?
[03:58] <goh> frogzoo: then may I ask hw the usb compares to a cd. I'm sorry but I do not know the speed difference
[03:58] <jvai> soo, just burning ("/") which is root, will do it?
[03:58] <mark__> Can anyone recommend a good media player, fore gnome with last.fm support + MP3/WMA playback?
[03:58] <redguy> frogzoo: not true
[03:58] <blue-frog> jvai, use systemrescuecd and the program partimage
[03:59] <frogzoo> jvai: you want to look at dump probably
[03:59] <mirak> mark__: give up wma
[03:59] <frogzoo> redguy: in particular?
[03:59] <mark__> mirak: well mainly mp3
[03:59] <jvai> ok.. but how do i find "dump"?
[03:59] <jvai> thru nautilus?
[03:59] <frogzoo> jvai: no, try "cpio"
[03:59] <redguy> jvai: for user settings you will want to back up only /home or even /home/user/
[03:59] <jvai> oo ok
[04:00] <jvai> back up/burn everything in /home/user/
[04:00] <mirak> mark__: I use quodlibet but I don't think there is radio
[04:01] <redguy> frogzoo: /usr is not necessary for example
[04:01] <jvai> then if i ever have to reinstall, just load the burnt cd, w/ /home/user/
[04:01] <mark__> !quodlibet
[04:01] <ubotu> mark__: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:01] <redguy> jvai: this will not back up any of system settings though, only user settings
[04:02] <frogzoo> redguy: 2 be sure - probably only /home is strictly absolutely necessary
[04:02] <wyawc2000> Why my NetBean show some box, i couldn't see the right interface..
[04:02] <blue-frog> jvai, use systemrescuecd and the program partimage
[04:02] <jvai> like my backgruond, my transparencies, etc? @ red
[04:02] <blue-frog> jvai, to make an image of your system
[04:02] <redguy> jvai: yup
[04:02] <jvai> oo ok
[04:03] <mark__> mirak: I'll give it ago!
[04:03] <wyawc2000> I have a problem: Why my NetBean show some box, i couldn't see the right interface..
[04:03] <jvai> yes, how do i make an image of my system? should i scroll up to what was already suggested?
[04:03] <eternal9> gcc-version-check failed:
[04:03] <eternal9>   You appear to be compiling the NVIDIA kernel module with a different
[04:03] <eternal9>   compiler than the one that was used to compile the running kernel.  This may
[04:03] <eternal9>   be fine, but there are cases where this can lead to instability.  The
[04:03] <eternal9>   compiler used to compile the kernel was gcc 3.4; the current compiler is gcc
[04:03] <eternal9>   4.0.
[04:04] <wyawc2000> I have a problem: Why my NetBean show some , i couldn't see the right interface..
[04:04] <frogzoo> eternal9: please don't paste here - use pastebin
[04:04] <wyawc2000> Who can help me .....
[04:04] <eternal9> sorry
[04:04] <eternal9> I have gcc 4.0 installed though
[04:04] <eternal9> so now what can I do
[04:04] <redguy> eternal9: you have build-essential installed?
[04:04] <eternal9> yeah
[04:05] <frogzoo> eternal9: install gcc3.4 & compile using "export GCC=path_to_gcc.3.4"
[04:05] <wyawc2000> I have a problem: Why my NetBean show some  , i couldn't see the right interface..
[04:05] <wyawc2000> I have a problem: Why my NetBean show some  , i couldn't see the right interface..  Who can help me???
[04:05] <Agiofws> hello where do i put some commands that i would like to run at boot time  could you please give me the path to the file ?
[04:05] <blue-frog> eternal9, installing ubuntu nvidia drivers would be easier..
[04:05] <Agiofws> is it /etc/rc.2?
[04:05] <Agiofws> or
[04:05] <Agiofws> etc/rc.S?
[04:05] <redguy> wyawc2000: repeating your question 100 times more won't encourage anyone to help you
[04:05] <eternal9> really
[04:06] <eternal9> so should I uninstall everything again
[04:06] <Agiofws> hello where do i put some commands that i would like to run at boot time  could you please give me the path to the file ?  is it rc.S or rc.3
[04:06] <mcphail> Agiofws: I use a cron job for this kind of thing. Using runlevels is overkill
[04:06] <Agiofws> mcphail,  just tell me
[04:06] <frogzoo> Agiofws: create a new file called /etc/rc2.d/S99local
[04:06] <redguy> wyawc2000: apparently nobody, try later or some other channel, more java oriented than this.
[04:06] <Agiofws> simple commands like modprobe
[04:07] <Agiofws> ok
[04:07] <wyawc2000> rok.,thank you ..
[04:07] <Agiofws> frogzoo,  are you sure
[04:07] <frogzoo> pretty sure that will work, yes
[04:07] <Agiofws> runlevel is TWO
[04:07] <Agiofws> nice
[04:08] <frogzoo> Agiofws: you got it
[04:08] <wyawc2000> I also a problem, today i install php. but when i reboot my computer, i couldn't use it ?
[04:08] <jvai> i burnt elive 0.3, & it has mplayer, which playz wmp media, how can i just extract that from the cd to my hoary system?.. is it as easy as pulling the folder from the cd?
[04:08] <redguy> Agiofws: the better way would be to create a script in /etc/init.d/ and then learn and run update-rc.d
[04:08] <Tuntis> Well, this kinda-of-like-sucks
[04:08] <mcphail> Agiofws: sudo crontab -e -u root
[04:09] <mcphail> Agiofws: then write "@reboot /path/to/script"
[04:09] <wyawc2000> I also a problem, today i install php. but when i reboot my computer, i couldn't use it ? why?
[04:09] <Agiofws> frogzoo,  rc2.D has files or symlinks in it ?
[04:10] <wyawc2000> I also a problem, today i install php. but when i reboot my computer, i couldn't use it . why
[04:10] <frogzoo> Agiofws: usually symlinks to init.d
[04:10] <TokenBad> ok here is a good one...how do you use cpkg file?
[04:10] <Agiofws> so i symlink it  to a file in init.d ?
[04:10] <Agiofws> frogzoo,
[04:10] <Agiofws> or i just put the commands in that file ?
[04:11] <redguy> Agiofws: update-rc.d will create symlinks automagically
[04:11] <frogzoo> Agiofws: no need
[04:11] <Agiofws> just put the commands  in  S99local <---- frogzoo ?
[04:11] <frogzoo> Agiofws: as redguy points out, 2 do it properly, put the script in init.d & run update-rc.d
[04:11] <mirak> does someone manage to install Eclipse on Breezy ?
[04:11] <frogzoo> Agiofws: that will get you up & going for starters
[04:12] <Agiofws> so i just put the commands  in  S99local    or i symlink  S99local  to a file in init.d
[04:12] <Agiofws> which two
[04:12] <Seveas> mirak, sudo apt-get install eclipse
[04:12] <mirak> Seveas: there is dependencies problemes
[04:12] <frogzoo> Agiofws: no need to symlink - just remember to chmod +x
[04:12] <Agiofws> kk
[04:13] <mirak> Seveas: by the way this package doesn't exist
[04:13] <Seveas> mirak, eclipse-editor oslt...
[04:13] <Agiofws> chmod  S99local  in /etc/rc2.d in right ?
[04:14] <jvai> thank u all for your support, i.e. frogzoo, redguy, i wish i had something to give as in support
[04:14] <Vasion> Hi, I have two current issues that I need addressed with ubuntu, one I am on a laptop with ubuntu the computer is a compaq nw8000 and as it is the thumbstick mouse on the keyboard doesn't work, just the touchpad, anyone have any ideas on how to get the thumbstick to work
[04:14] <mirak> Seveas: nope
[04:14] <frogzoo> Agiofws: and at the top of the file, put "#!/bin/bash"
[04:14] <mirak> Seveas: there is SDK but I have dependencies problemes
[04:15] <human_error> ion3 is cool. anyone using it?
[04:15] <frogzoo> Agiofws: oops, should read "#! /bin/sh"
[04:15] <Vasion> the second issue is our VGA projecter doesn't reconginze any output from ubuntu, any suggestions on that?
[04:15] <MagicFab> trivia: how many languages does Ubuntu offer at install time ?
[04:16] <Agiofws> oh ok
[04:16] <MagicFab> Vasion: use a generic vesa driver, 800x600 resolution
[04:16] <Vasion> Ok
[04:17] <frogzoo> any tips for passing vga params to kernel at boot to get the right res?
[04:17] <Vasion> any ideas about the thumbstick mouse? I really hate the touchpad
[04:17] <EvilPaddy> Whats the kernel headers package listed in Synaptic as?
[04:17] <redguy> EvilPaddy: linux-headers
[04:18] <ccb69> work
[04:18] <mcphail> EvilPaddy: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:19] <rapha> Kamping_Kaiser: nick01: okay, thanks! Is there any specifically good Ubuntu ho-to? I already got it set-up so far, just that everything is accessible from everywhere...
[04:20] <frogzoo> rapha: install firestarter?
[04:20] <windowsrefund> hello
[04:20] <xored> somone has experience with munin. I want to check where the cronjobis in wheater he is working
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> rapha: you mean ubuntu only help? or ubuntu help for apache?
[04:20] <EvilPaddy> redguy, & mcphail, nice one d00ds
[04:20] <rapha> frogzoo: naa, set up apache so that certain sites are only accessible from certain interfaces
[04:20] <rapha> Kamping_Kaiser: I mean setting up virtual hosts for apache
[04:21] <Agiofws> frogzoo,  just to be sure #! /bin/sh  < on the top right ?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> rapha: i don't know. sorry
[04:21] <rapha> kay, thx
[04:21] <mcphail> rapha: the apache manual has good docs on this
[04:21] <frogzoo> rapha: bind the virt hosts to separate IPs dude
[04:21] <rapha> mcphail: frogzoo: thx!
[04:21] <Hitman> channels
[04:22] <frogzoo> Agiofws: sry, top left - look at the other files & do similiar
[04:22] <mcphail> rapha: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/
[04:23] <rapha> thx mcphail!
[04:24] <redguy> Agiofws: AFAIR, the first line should be #!/bin/sh
[04:24] <redguy> Agiofws: no space
[04:24] <mcphail> redguy: the space is optional, but compulsory on BSD
[04:24] <Agiofws> redguy,  are you sure ?
[04:24] <redguy> mcphail: really? didn't know
[04:25] <redguy> Agiofws: read what mcphail told me
[04:25] <ubuntu> hi
[04:25] <Agiofws> ok
[04:26] <Zedugh> Tuntis, u there?
[04:26] <frogzoo> redguy: there's a space - take a look
[04:26] <Tuntis> Yes
[04:26] <redguy> frogzoo: according to what mcphail said, both shoul work
[04:27] <frogzoo> redguy: I agree
[04:27] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hi all
[04:27] <Zedugh> Tuntis, just an idea: try root=/dev/hdd2
[04:27] <Tuntis> hm, ok
[04:27] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i download packages line gnu
[04:27] <matrix-ubuntu-c> like gnu
[04:27] <Tuntis> whaat
[04:27] <Tuntis> Didn't know Steam allows me to download games I have ordered physically :O
[04:27] <eternal9> no pre defined kernel
[04:28] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i just installed ubuntu how do i uptdate the system
[04:28] <eternal9> what gives
[04:28] <Tuntis> now, to try hdd2
[04:28] <eternal9> sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <eternal9> for update
[04:28] <mark__> Anyone recommend a MSN client (Not: Amsn,Bitlbee,gaim)
[04:28] <eternal9> I have installed generic for 64
[04:29] <theD3viL> mark__, kopete?
[04:29] <eternal9> I have installed k8 for 64
[04:29] <mark__> thats for KDE
[04:29] <eternal9> everytime I try to run nvidia's installer
[04:29] <eternal9> it says no kernel to support this
[04:29] <eternal9> wtf
[04:29] <matrix-ubuntu-c>  i do sudu apt-get flex nothing happens
[04:30] <theD3viL> mark__, you can install in a gnome too
[04:30] <eternal9> sudo
[04:30] <xored> somone has experience with munin. I want to check where the cronjobis in wheater he is working
[04:31] <Zedugh> matrix-ubuntu-c, you need to enable multiverse and/or universe in your apt repos (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[04:31] <Tuntis> Didn't work.
[04:31] <Zedugh> Tuntis, did it give the same alert?
[04:31] <matrice64> mark__, there is galaxium, http://galaxium.sourceforge.net/
[04:32] <Tuntis> yes
[04:32] <wyawc2000> How to update Gaim???
[04:33] <theD3viL> Why firefox close when i wanna play online movie?!?!
[04:34] <needlz_> hi, ive a thinkpad t42 with a centrino wlan card (ipw2200) and breezy. when i try to enable the wireless device (ath0), it automaticly disables it after 1 second...
[04:34] <needlz_> does anyone know what i can do?
[04:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c>  sudu apt-get uptdate gaim
[04:34] <trappist> theD3viL: sounds like it's crashing
[04:35] <redguy> matrix-ubuntu-c: sudo
[04:35] <redguy> matrix-ubuntu-c: hmm, sudo apt-get update will update all of your packages
[04:35] <theD3viL> trappist, yes, but why ? :S
[04:36] <theD3viL> trappist, and where to select firefox default movie player ?
[04:36] <redguy> matrix-ubuntu-c: sudo apt-get update gaim will do the same
[04:36] <needlz_> does no1 have a centrino wlan card here?
[04:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i try this sudo apt-get gcc
[04:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i get error
[04:37] <trappist> theD3viL: what kind of movie
[04:37] <pholie> what is the dapper? codename for next ubuntu release?
[04:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i install gcc
[04:37] <theD3viL> trappist, hm...ill give you a link
[04:37] <Zedugh> Tuntis, don't think it will work (at least not yet), see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootingFromUSB?highlight=%28install%29%7C%28on%29%7C%28usb%29
[04:37] <rob_p> needlz_:  I do.
[04:37] <trappist> needlz_: I have a ipw220 and it's eth0 - it mostly works but I get a lot of firmware errors.  you probably need a firmware update.
[04:38] <oskude> theD3viL, you could start firefox from terminal and look if it spits any error messages...
[04:38] <trappist> *2200
[04:38] <needlz_> i see
[04:38] <molsen> Where can i report bugs from Dapper?
[04:38] <theD3viL> trappist,
[04:38] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i install gcc
[04:38] <theD3viL> trappist, http://24ur.com/naslovnica/specialitete/adiposloveniji/20051111_3064250_16076436.php
[04:38] <needlz_> trappist: did it get automaticly renamed to eth0?
[04:38] <oskude> matrix-ubuntu-c, sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:39] <theD3viL> oskude, k ill pastebin you
[04:39] <trappist> needlz_: not renamed, just named.  I don't think it's using the atheros drivers.  that might be part of your problem too.
[04:39] <Tuntis> alright zedugh
[04:40] <_jason> theD3viL, I play that fine on mine, what plugin are you using?
[04:40] <needlz_> trappist: see that kwifimanger thingy actually finds my AP (it shows me the ssid)..but the card will be actived for like 1 second
[04:40] <needlz_> :/
[04:41] <trappist> needlz_: try using the ipw2200 module instead of the atheros drivers
[04:42] <needlz_> trappist: can you tell me where i can change that?
[04:42] <theD3viL> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5232 and i have installed mplayerplugin but totem is still want to play movies (firefox).
[04:42] <trappist> needlz_: modprobe -r atheros (is that the name of the module?) and modprobe ipw2200
[04:43] <needlz_> ok thx
[04:43] <Tuntis> reboot
[04:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i remove a package sudo get-unistall gcc
[04:44] <[cro] smiley> i have a problem with the top panel. I have unchecked expand in properties and everything works fine. But when i restart computer th clock is on the left side and my aplications on the right.
[04:45] <Zedugh> matrix-ubuntu-c: sudo apt-get remove gcc
[04:45] <theD3viL> _jason, what can i doo ?
[04:45] <[cro] smiley> some1 please help
[04:46] <_jason> theD3viL, actually I lied to you, it plays but doesn't buffer right :/  I've never used mmst:// before, maybe that's why.  What version of firefox are you using?
[04:46] <theD3viL> _jason, default ubuntu
[04:47] <Aven> help!
[04:47] <Aven> libapache2-mod-php5 is installed
[04:47] <matrix-ubuntu-c> when i compile libdnet i get this checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:47] <Aven> but it doesn't load in the apache2 modules
[04:47] <rapha> Cool!
[04:48] <rapha> Got it working ... dkv.test.stofi.net mcphail -- thx!
[04:48] <oskude> matrix-ubuntu-c, "apt-get install make" and then try again
[04:48] <trappist> Aven: mv /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[04:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell theD3viL about replacetotem
[04:48] <oskude> matrix-ubuntu-c, "sudo apt-get install make" and then try again (to be exact)
[04:49] <mcphail> Aven: trappist: a2enmod is a better way
[04:49] <yapyccky> hello everyone
[04:49] <Aven> mcphail, what's that?
[04:49] <yapyccky> how is possible to take off shadow from desktop fonts on ubuntu=
[04:49] <trappist> mcphail: cool, never heard of it
[04:50] <mcphail> Aven: simlinks mods-available to mods-enabled
[04:50] <_jason> theD3viL, I should have also told you I am using a version of the mplayerplugin different than the one in the repos.  But I found that oen to be better than the totem-plugin anyway.
[04:50] <Aven> how do I do that? :P
[04:50] <mcphail> Aven: sudo a2ensite nameofmymodule
[04:50] <mcphail> *a2enmod
[04:50] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i try that sudo apt-get install make when i run again sudo ./configure i get same error
[04:50] <yapyccky> i would be glad if someone will answer me :-)
[04:51] <oskude> yapyccky, hello :)
[04:51] <yapyccky> hello oskude :-)
[04:51] <yapyccky> oskude , do u have any solutoin for my "stupid" problem?
[04:52] <oskude> yapyccky, no, never doen that, sry. have you tried google ?
[04:52] <yapyccky> i did, but didnt find anything interesting
[04:52] <dpupp> where are audio clips stored in ubuntu?
[04:52] <sethk> matrix-ubuntu-c, what's the error, exactly?
[04:52] <Aven> thanks worked
[04:53] <dpupp> system even sounds and such?
[04:53] <mcphail> rapha: np
[04:53] <matrix-ubuntu-c> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:54] <oskude> matrix-ubuntu-c, then try "apt-get install build-essential"
[04:54] <oskude> matrix-ubuntu-c, then try "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:54] <sethk> matrix-ubuntu-c, the compiler doesn't have write privileges in the directory
[04:54] <sethk> matrix-ubuntu-c, a sudo won't help you there
[04:54] <dpupp> I need to set my irc program to alert on highlight and play sound, i dont have any sound clips other than the defauls, however, i dont know where the defaults are stored. Anyone know?
[04:55] <sethk> matrix-ubuntu-c, you have to either change the ownership of the source directory, or get a root shell (sudo -i, I think) and run configure from there
[04:55] <_jason> dpupp, /usr/share/sounds
[04:55] <dpupp> Thanks _jason
[04:56] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it worked now with that sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:56] <willii> hi all
[04:56] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i just installed sudo apt-get gcc thats why it wasn not working maybe
[04:57] <oskude> matrix-ubuntu-c, "build-essential" is a meta pakage containing some crusial stuff for compiling...
[04:58] <willii> I am trying to install a non deb package I type  sudo alien --to-deb yhen the name of the driver  the responce is  that the word alien seem to be the problem any offers please
[04:58] <oskude> william, sudo apt-get install alien ?
[04:59] <tebito> hola, alguien sabe de donde bajar un cd adicional repositorio ubuntu
[04:59] <jino> Hi
[04:59] <Amaranth> !es
[04:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:59] <willii> hi oskude, yes maybe but I alredy have the package
[04:59] <jino> Can some one tell me how to compile c++ programs in ubuntu] 
[05:00] <oskude> william, could you post your error message in pastebin ?
[05:00] <willii> sorry the driver
[05:00] <oskude> !pastebin
[05:00] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:00] <jino> Seveas , how do i compile a cpp program on linux .I have installed gcc
[05:01] <mcphail> jino: g++ -o progname sorce.cpp
[05:01] <willii> ok will do the driver is for my wireless so I will back in a minute
[05:02] <dpupp> could someone test my highlight function? just type m nick
[05:02] <jino> mcphail . which source should i give in
[05:03] <deltron> m nick
[05:03] <deltron> ?
[05:03] <dpupp> my nick i meant.
[05:03] <deltron> lol
[05:03] <jino> i have my program in home
[05:03] <deltron> dpupp: testing
[05:03] <davidw> anyone managed to get ldap working as an authentication method? I'm going bonkers
[05:03] <dpupp> EEEKAg! loud vol. static. i chose the wrong sound.
[05:03] <mcphail> jino: whatever source you want to compile...
[05:03] <deltron> I started to try to authenticate through LDAP, but never got to work on it ://
[05:04] <jino> mcphail thanks its all ok
[05:04] <spiderbatdad> help
[05:05] <spiderbatdad> tar.gz package on desk top...how to install it
[05:05] <Sonderblade> how do you do so that ubuntu doesn't automatically popup nautilus when you insert a disk?
[05:05] <dpupp> ok lets try that again. test please? just say my nick.
[05:05] <deltron> go to a shell, type tar -xzvf tarfile.tar.gz
[05:05] <oskude> spiderbatdad, what do you want to install ? are you sure theres no ubuntu package for it ?
[05:05] <Zedugh> dpupp
[05:06] <davidw> man, this is seriously fucked up
[05:06] <dpupp> perfect. Thanks!
[05:06] <spiderbatdad> conky
[05:06] <spiderbatdad> oskude: Conky 1.3.4
[05:06] <jino> in cpp does cout is used get output on screen
[05:07] <_jason> jino, try ##c++
[05:07] <oskude> spiderbatdad, ok, didnt found any packages in packages.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <Amaranth> jino: std::cout<<"foo";
[05:07] <spiderbatdad> what do I do with this tar package on my desktop?
[05:07] <oskude> spiderbatdad, yould you give me their website url, or where did you get that
[05:07] <oskude> *could
[05:08] <xored> someone has experience with configring the munin plugins, esp. the ip_ plugin '
[05:08] <Sonderblade> spiderbatdad: conky is in synaptic
[05:08] <spiderbatdad> did a google search for "conky" it's a system monitor
[05:08] <oskude> oh concy = conky ?
[05:08] <jino> amaranth yes it works
[05:08] <oskude> oh my failre :) doh
[05:08] <oskude> *failure
[05:08] <spiderbatdad> sonderblade: don't find it in mine
[05:09] <oskude> !repos
[05:09] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:09] <jino> amaranth, to run the program the program wht is the command
[05:09] <Sonderblade> spiderbatdad: if you use breezy you should
[05:09] <spiderbatdad> 5.10 Breezy
[05:09] <Amaranth> jino: You've compiled it?
[05:09] <oskude> conky is in universe
[05:09] <jino> yes
[05:09] <spiderbatdad> looking again for 100th time.
[05:09] <Amaranth> jino: chmod +x program then run ./program
[05:10] <gimmulf> How do i find out what software i can install for my amd64 cpu? is everything i got in the respitorys working for my system?
[05:10] <Amaranth> gimmulf: yes
[05:10] <oskude> spiderbatdad, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=conky&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[05:10] <gimmulf> oki thanks
[05:10] <spiderbatdad> sure would be nice if I could drag the package into synaptic
[05:10] <spiderbatdad> thanks
[05:11] <pc22> who's familiar with swat?
[05:11] <Aven> Everytime I try to remove phpmyadmin, I keep getting: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5233
[05:12] <jino> thanks
[05:12] <Amaranth> did the archive just slow way down for anyone else?
[05:13] <jino> how to get the cpp tutorial in ubuntu
[05:15] <pirx> how do i see which packages i have installed?
[05:16] <Amaranth> pirx: open synaptic and choose the installed packages item from the status list
[05:16] <_jason> pirx, dpkg -l
[05:16] <pirx> 2 ways, thanks!
[05:17] <deltron> lol
[05:17] <_jason> pirx, :)
[05:17] <oskude> where second is the GUI way ;)
[05:18] <xored> someone has experience with configring the munin plugins, esp. the ip_ plugin ', i want to count the traffic on interface eth0
[05:18] <Aven> Everytime I try to remove phpmyadmin, I keep getting: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5233
[05:19] <Siph0n-Lab> hey.... hey, im tryin to get my bluetooth to work automatically when i boot up... i tryed editing  the bluez-utils file with , HIDD_OPTIONS="--connect XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" , but that doesnt work... ne ideas? :)
[05:19] <psi> does anyone know how to enable tapping on ibook touchpads?
[05:19] <pirx> ok, so i removed a efw packages, and i run "dpkg -l | grep -i myth" and it still shows those packages (mythtv packages)... what gives?
[05:20] <oskude> Aven, try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79934
[05:21] <pirx> and the mythtv-backend script remains in /etc/cron.daily/ ... hmm!
[05:21] <bungle> hi all
[05:21] <oskude> psi, dunno on mac, but on pc tabbing is managed my this "xorg-driver-synaptics"
[05:24] <guile> hi all , when i can find the url of repositories of apt , to put on sources.list?
[05:24] <Siph0n-Lab> so neone got an idea bout the mouse? :)
[05:24] <oskude> !repos
[05:24] <ubotu> [repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:24] <jrattner1> is there a program similar to Kticker for gnome
[05:24] <psi> oskude, thanks. it seems to be newer than what is already included in xorg, so perhaps it will help
[05:25] <bungle> whats Kticker do jrattner1
[05:25] <jrattner1> bungle, it scrolls rss headlines in the panel..
[05:25] <psi> oskude, eek. i misread. it was reverted to an older version. i think i need 0.14+
[05:25] <Slackwise> I just put a WinXP HDD in this Ubuntu machine at work. I need to have XP boot by default. Any documentation on dualbooting with GRUB? I'm only familiar with LILO.
[05:26] <jrattner1> is there a program similar to knewsticker for gnome'?
[05:27] <bungle> sorry i dont know jrattner1,  but no doubt someone in here will
[05:27] <oskude> psi, do you have "synaptics" driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:28] <psi> oskude, yes
[05:28] <dadde> I have a problen: The ubuntu setup dosent recognise one of my old partitions. It was a ext3 partition but it dosent want to get that. What shall I do?
[05:28] <oskude> psi, hmm, your sure that the mouse pad works 100% ?
[05:28] <psi> oskude, the xorg log says that no synaptics touchpad was detected, though. i read somewhere that i need version 0.14+ for it to work properly
[05:29] <oskude> psi, hmm, and your current version is ?
[05:29] <psi> 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3
[05:30] <psi> i use breezy
[05:30] <oskude> psi, hmm, "revertedto" sounds not good :)
[05:30] <ppd> hi. does anybody know whether it's possible to disable the jerky gdm logout fade?
[05:31] <psi> oskude, yeah. i wonder why they did that.
[05:31] <oskude> psi, just for the record, my is 0.13.6-0ubuntu5
[05:31] <dadde> is there a partition utility in ubunto?
[05:31] <oskude> psi, but mine is a PC
[05:31] <EvilPaddy> dadde, gparted
[05:32] <dadde> thx
[05:32] <oskude> psi, have you searched ubuntuforums ?
[05:32] <jino> hi
[05:32] <jino> how to search the cpp document
[05:33] <root__> quienpa est ah ???
[05:33] <oskude> jino, could you be more exact...
[05:34] <_jason> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:34] <jino> to get the document about some key words in the terminal
[05:34] <nadia007> When I installed ubuntu, I did it on a LCD, now that I moved the box to a CRT it's giving me really low resolution options.  How can I get it to reconfigure using my new monitor?
[05:34] <psi> oskude, briefly. i'll try some more.
[05:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell nadia007 about fixres
[05:35] <olicat> this might be a bit ot, but a question for linux developers :)
[05:35] <stratovarius> hey all
[05:35] <Stormx2> Heya
[05:35] <olicat> if i commit something with svn, then want to take back my changes and revert back to the previous versions, is there a way of doing it?
[05:36] <stratovarius> I use proftpd. when I try to connect to ftp I have "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" where is the problem?
[05:36] <psi> oskude, most people are concerned with *disabling* tapping
[05:36] <stratovarius> pls help me
[05:36] <jino> askude, i am doing cpp program, to get the tutorial in that terminal what should i do
[05:37] <Aven> hmm
[05:38] <Aven> MySQL is running fine and so is the database... but how can I make apache2 recognize mysql?
[05:38] <stratovarius> nobody can help me?
[05:38] <Aven> I have mysql-server installed and php4-mysql
[05:38] <dooglus> jino: find . -type f -name '*.cpp' -print0 | xargs -0 grep -e keyword1 -e keyword2
[05:38] <NuK> hello guys, my evolution inbox is messed up, i cant delete msgs and it gives me error, anybody know where the msgs are kept so i can manualy delete everything?
[05:38] <jnymo> so what's new and hot in the linux/ubuntu world?
[05:38] <Aven> stratovarius, first off... are you sure proftpd is running?
[05:39] <stratovarius> Aven: in what way I can be sure it's running?
[05:39] <dooglus> stratovarius: still using inetd?
[05:39] <stratovarius> yeah
[05:39] <dooglus> so it won't be running until it's needed
[05:39] <dooglus> inetd will start it on demand.
[05:39] <dooglus> what line do you have in /etc/inetd.conf for it?
[05:39] <stratovarius> dooglus:wait Ill paste u
[05:39] <HaShofet> I'm looking for the file to edit so I can auto-login to gnome with specified user....can anyone help?
[05:40] <dooglus> it's only 1 line - say it here
[05:40] <jnymo> I'm not trying to be rhetorical.. is there any newsworthy info on ubuntu lately?
[05:40] <dooglus> I don't know anything about inetd
[05:40] <stratovarius> #:STANDARD: These are standard services.
[05:40] <stratovarius> ftp	stream	tcp	nowait	root	/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/proftpd
[05:40] <White-Wolf> Question :How does one go about installing .deb files?
[05:40] <psi> dpkg -i
[05:41] <_jason> !dpkg
[05:41] <dooglus> stratovarius: I don't know if that's right or not.  does /usr/sbin/tcpd exist?  and /usr/sbin/proftpd?
[05:41] <drummer> Has anyone here been successful at installing Open Office 2.0 on Hoary?
[05:41] <dooglus> White-Wolf: "sudo dpkg -i <.deb file>
[05:41] <dooglus> "
[05:41] <NuK> hi, could someone help me with ximian evolution?
[05:41] <drummer> if so HOw?
[05:41] <White-Wolf> Dooglus : thanks
[05:41] <pluffsy> hello
[05:41] <dooglus> drummer: I did it by upgrading Hoary to Breezy
[05:42] <pluffsy> Is the airport extreme cards on powerbooks still unsupported under linux?
[05:42] <stratovarius> stratovarius@CIRO:~$ /usr/sbin/proftpd
[05:42] <stratovarius>  - Fatal: </Directory>: directive not allowed in <Anonymous> context on line 101 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[05:42] <dooglus> drummer: (and even then I only got a pre-release
[05:42] <dooglus> )
[05:42] <drummer> Upgrading to Breezy is not an option at the moment.
[05:43] <EvilPaddy> NuK, Whats the promlem with Evolution?
[05:44] <drummer> So the question is still on the table: Has anyone successfully installed Open Office 2.0 on HOARY.
[05:44] <XiCillin> don't know
[05:44] <dooglus> drummer: it's unlikely.  hoary is old, open office 2.0 is new.  people stopped using hoary before open office 2.0 came out, I'd guess.
[05:44] <NuK> EvilPaddy,  my evolution inbox is messed up, i cant delete msgs and it gives me error, do you know where the msgs are kept so i can manualy delete everything?
[05:44] <dadde> ok, now that i have made a partition in gparted, how do i get it mounted?
[05:45] <jrattner1> How do i make my system use GDM instead of KDM
[05:45] <NuK> EvilPaddy, removing .evolution in my home folder dont help
[05:45] <dooglus> dadde: you need to make a filesystem in the partition before you can mount it.  did you do that?
[05:45] <dadde> yeah ext3
[05:45] <dooglus> jrattner1: install gdm, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[05:46] <dooglus> dadde: you should be able to just add a line to /etc/fstab for it
[05:46] <dooglus> dadde: or run "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda<whatever> /mount/<whereever>"
[05:46] <mahangu> anyone here use gtkpod succesfully?
[05:46] <HaShofet> QUESTION: I'm looking for the file to edit so I can auto-login to gnome with specified user....can anyone help?
[05:46] <jrattner1> dooglus, thanx that worked perfectly, next questions how to i install  grub splash screens
[05:47] <dooglus> jrattner1: I don't know.  what's the point in that?
[05:47] <drummer> dooglus: actually hoary was being distributed on disk by Ubuntu until this fall.
[05:47] <dooglus> HaShofet: did you look at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?
[05:47] <dadde> thx dooglus
[05:47] <drummer> ok I'll try elsewhere.
[05:47] <Stormx2> HaShofet: There is a graphical tool.
[05:47] <HaShofet> i'll look
[05:47] <Aven> hi
[05:48] <Aven> how do I load a module into apache2?
[05:48] <HaShofet> yeah, but graphic tool isn't option now...I only have ssh access
[05:48] <Stormx2> ah ok
[05:48] <Aven> for it to go on /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[05:48] <jrattner1> dooglus, to make things look pretty
[05:48] <dooglus> it's not good to get dependant on graphical tools either - they change from distribution to distribution
[05:48] <stratovarius> dooglus: I solved my proble. there was an errorn on line 101 of my proftpd confi file. But now I had a new problem. When I try to log in as anonymous (ftp) it asks me for a passw (its should be my email address) but it doesnt work. what can I do?
[05:48] <dooglus> jrattner1: for the 1.5 seconds that grub is running?
[05:48] <Amy_> To upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, can I just change "hoary" to "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list, or do I actually have to install from the CD?
[05:48] <lpisani> Hello all
[05:49] <Stormx2> Amy_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:49] <Stormx2> Amy_: That will update you to breezy
[05:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell Amy_ about breezy
[05:49] <dooglus> stratovarius: check the config file.  did you disable anonymous logins perhaps?
[05:49] <Amy_> Stormx2, excellent, thanks
[05:49] <MalFal> I'm having major problems installing 5.10.  Can anyone help?
[05:49] <mirak> when the music's over
[05:49] <jrattner1> dooglus, yes : ) SuSE has a real pretty screen
[05:49] <stratovarius> dunno I'll take a look
[05:49] <Aven> how do I load a module into apache2? for it to go on /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[05:49] <Stormx2> MalFal: Whats the problem?
[05:49] <Amy_> _jason, thanks
[05:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i think ubuntu has the best screen
[05:49] <_jason> Amy_, yw
[05:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> and i like ubuntu 4 -ever
[05:50] <Stormx2> :D Glad to hear it
[05:50] <MalFal> Well.. I've downloaded the iso twice and I've tried to install on different hardware.
[05:50] <Stormx2> MalFal: How does it fail?
[05:50] <MalFal> Everytime I go with the install, it seems to have trouble reading a bunch of packages.
[05:50] <NuK> jausom :)
[05:50] <dooglus> MalFal: check the md5sum of the iso you're downloading.  there's no need to download it twice if the md5sum matches
[05:50] <Stormx2> MalFal: it may be your CD burner
[05:50] <Stormx2> MalFal: Have you tried burning on a slower speed/
[05:51] <stratovarius> dooglus: here is my config file http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5236. may u take a loo pls?
[05:51] <MalFal> No.. I've been d/l'ing and installing a bunch of different dists.
[05:51] <stratovarius> *look
[05:51] <dooglus> stratovarius: I can take a look, but I don't run an FTP server myself.
[05:51] <Stormx2> MalFal: Check the MD5 sums, do they match?
[05:51] <dooglus> stratovarius: FTP isn't very secure.  wouldn't you be better off with scp or some such?
[05:51] <MalFal> It tells me: "The debootstrap program exited wian an error (return value 1)
[05:51] <SatanGolga> where is the list of working wifi-cards?
[05:52] <MalFal> hold on.. let me check the sums
[05:52] <Aven> how do I load a module into apache2? for it to go on /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[05:52] <stratovarius> dooglus: in what sense isnt it secure?isnt it secure even if it is a lan ftp?
[05:52] <Stormx2> MalFal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[05:52] <rapha> How can I make an existing samba share read/writeable to everybody without requiring username/password?
[05:53] <spiderbatdad> the version of conky in Universe is unstable...how can I install the tar.gz file on my desktop?
[05:53] <dooglus> stratovarius: if your LAN is secure then it's OK I guess.  You trust everyone on your LAN?
[05:54] <dooglus> stratovarius: FTP sends everything in plain text.  Anyone sniffing packets on the network can easily get your passwords.
[05:54] <Stormx2> What's GNOME's brower called?
[05:54] <dooglus> nautilus
[05:54] <Slackwise> Nautilus is the File Manager, not the browser. :P
[05:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell spiderbatdad about compile
[05:55] <dadde> hmm i cant login as su?
[05:55] <spiderbatdad> please
[05:55] <dadde> How do i fix that?
[05:55] <Stormx2> web browser, I meant.
[05:55] <Slackwise> The official GNOME browser is "Epiphany"
[05:55] <dooglus> epiphany then?
[05:55] <Stormx2> Yeah thats the one, cheers
[05:55] <dooglus> if you mean *web* browser
[05:55] <Slackwise> But the default is Firefox, of course. :P
[05:55] <_jason> spiderbatdad, ubotu has sent you a msg with the info
[05:55] <stratovarius> dooglus:I think my lan it's secure cuz I have a firewalled router that should be protect my pcs
[05:55] <spiderbatdad> thanks many x
[05:55] <stratovarius> shouldnt it?
[05:56] <xkahn> whoa...  big channel.
[05:56] <cube1000> is there an other filebrowser like nautilus???
[05:56] <dooglus> stratovarius: yes, it should.  but it's good to have more than one layer of security
[05:56] <dooglus> cube1000: "rox" is quite nice
[05:56] <xkahn> Okay.  What's the best way to install pam_xauth.so?
[05:56] <dadde> Im unable to login as SU -, Aturisation failed, How do I fix this?
[05:56] <bolrod__> sudo su
[05:57] <dooglus> dadde: you need to make a user called "SU" if you want to log in as "SU"
[05:57] <bolrod__> ?
[05:57] <stratovarius> dooglus:on my ubuntu I have no firewall (only iptables). on my winxp box I have an antivirus only an the windows' firewall
[05:57] <xkahn> I'd like to switch to another user and still have X permissions.
[05:57] <bolrod__> dooglus: try sudo su
[05:57] <dadde> oki, testing
[05:57] <bolrod__> :)
[05:57] <xkahn> And I'd prefer to avoid xhost
[05:57] <MalFal> stormx: The sums chaed out ok
[05:57] <MalFal> **checked
[05:57] <dooglus> bolrod__: that will log you in as root
[05:57] <smergler2> sudo -s would also work
[05:57] <bolrod__> yes.. what do you want then?
[05:57] <smergler2> dooglus: ^^
[05:57] <cube1000> dooglus:any other cuase i can't apt-get rox
[05:57] <dooglus> dadde: was asking how to log in as SU
[05:58] <bolrod> ^.0
[05:58] <dooglus> cube1000: you missed the 'install'
[05:58] <bolrod> you have a user SU ?
[05:58] <dadde> Hehe it works just fine now
[05:58] <dadde> thanks for the help
[05:58] <cube1000> dooglus: now i've done sudo apt-get install rox..
[05:58] <dooglus> cube1000: oh, and it's called "rox-filer"
[05:58] <cube1000> thx
[05:59] <MalFal> Stormx2?
[05:59] <cube1000> dooglus:but its a big one,isn't it?it has got 12MB
[05:59] <dooglus> cube1000: it's a lightweight filer.  I don't know why it's 12Mb!
[06:00] <cube1000> i don'T know,too
[06:00] <dooglus> cube1000: do you have gnome installed already?
[06:00] <cube1000> no...i uninstalled it..
[06:00] <jfletcher> Hey, I've installed bluez-utils -- What's the command to either start a GUI or somthing or make a connection?
[06:00] <dooglus> cube1000: I guess rox-filer depends on a bunch of X Windows stuff which you've uninstalled.
[06:01] <SatanGolga> where could i get the list of working wifi-cards for ubuntu?
[06:01] <MalFal> Stormx2: The md5sums checked out ok
[06:01] <cube1000> i only uninstalled gdm
[06:01] <xkahn> . . . o O { I wonder if I can copy it from a non-braindead distribution.... }
[06:01] <dooglus> cube1000: I don't know then.  12Mb isn't so much though, eh?
[06:01] <xkahn> Probably not a good idea.
[06:02] <cube1000> ok..it's nice one...
[06:02] <cube1000> can i uninstall nautilus?
[06:02] <cube1000> without probs?
[06:02] <mirak> cube1000: it while uninsall gnome probably ?
[06:02] <mirak> will
[06:02] <dooglus> cube1000: I didn't uninstall nautilus, but I've not run it for weeks, so I guess it's safe to uninstall it
[06:03] <Aven> to get MySQL working with apache, would I need libapache2-mod-auth-mysql ?
[06:03] <dooglus> cube1000: I just uninstalled it.  it only takes 1 other package with it: "nautilus-desktop", which I also don't use
[06:04] <Stormx2> MalFal: Hmm. Burnt it at a slow speed (1x or 2x)
[06:04] <dooglus> sorry - ubuntu-desktop.
[06:04] <cube1000> i want to uninstall it cause if i start it under fluxbox...it starts the background i used in gnaoe and the menu disapear and theres a contentmenu
[06:04] <MalFal> Well.. the first time I did the max (24x) The next time I did 8x
[06:04] <dooglus> cube1000: did you see xubuntu?  it's a lighterweight desktop
[06:04] <dooglus> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/29/0344240 talks about it
[06:05] <damian_> ?    ?
[06:05] <MalFal> Also, the install doesn't actually access the net, does it?
[06:05] <cube1000> no i didn't see it...
[06:05] <dooglus> damian_: is that a language you're speaking there?
[06:05] <cube1000> but i can try it...
[06:05] <holycow> anyone know how to print envelopes properly in oo.org2?  mine insists on printing envelopes width wise instead of length wise ...
[06:05] <Telep> hmm, does Ubuntu have a problem with XP-made partition maps?
[06:05] <dooglus> MalFal: it doesn't access the net - or it doesn't need to, anyway.
[06:05] <holycow> bah
[06:05] <monicam> hello
[06:05] <damian_>    ?
[06:06] <dooglus> holycow: turn the envelope through 90 degrees before putting it into the printer?
[06:06] <Telep> my friend just installed Ubuntu and he's got a disk with 3 FAT32 partitions but Ubuntu can only see one big partition
[06:06] <MalFal> ok... I was trying to read the error megs as they flew by and it looked like it said something about "downloading", but I thought that was from the CD
[06:06] <holycow> dooglus, thats dumb, printers have envelope feeders for a reason
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[06:06] <kayceew> omggg whats up
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[06:06] <monicam> you
[06:06] <monicam> who are you other ppl????
[06:07] <yvamarar> hey
[06:07] <kayceew> heyyyyyyyy
[06:07] <kayceew> YVAAAAAAAA
[06:07] <yvamarar> wats up?
[06:07] <monicam> ahahah
[06:07] <kayceew> i LOVE UUUUUUUUUUu
[06:07] <monicam> who are these otherpppl
[06:07] <kayceew> we dont now
[06:08] <yvamarar> lol
[06:08] <yvamarar> Iloveyatoo
[06:08] <stratovarius> dooglus: if I try to connect to my ftp from another pc with my user and passwd there isnt a link to a folder (/mnt/windows/Audio) I see here on my ubuntu
[06:08] <Stormx2> Ooooh! A colabaration between ubuntu and gnoppix
[06:08] <tannera> hey
[06:08] <tannera> lol
[06:08] <brandonw_> gnloru 'nwg
[06:08] <yvamarar> hey
[06:08] <tannera> this is sweet
[06:09] <brandonw_> hello
[06:09] <yvamarar> this isso kewl
[06:09] <yvamarar> lol
[06:09] <kayceew> i no
[06:09] <monicam> hahaha
[06:09] <kayceew> whats up
[06:09] <monicam> dont let him se it
[06:09] <cube1000> dooglus:but it's no wm...it's a system
[06:09] <MalFal> what kind of collaberation?
[06:09] <kayceew> yea i no
[06:09] <stratovarius> dooglus: ??? u here?
[06:09] <tannera> hey
[06:09] <kayceew> TANNNERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[06:09] <tannera> wat
[06:09] <kayceew> i dunno
[06:09] <monicam> shes here
[06:09] <monicam> shut u
[06:09] <tannera> ok then
[06:09] <yvamarar> ahhh
[06:09] <alexisc> hey
[06:10] <kayceew> hey
[06:10] <Firen> ftp server program in ubuntu is... ;) ??
[06:10] <yvamarar> hello
[06:10] <kayceew> ahhh the beast
[06:10] <alexisc> ah teacher
[06:10] <kayceew> is here
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[06:10] <kayceew> watch ur language
[06:10] <kayceew> !
[06:10] <ubotu> kayceew: Are you on ritalin?
[06:10] <alexisc> scwer that i dont wana do work
[06:10] <perryp> i like sausaged
[06:10] <perryp> sausage
[06:10] <kayceew> i no were we supposed to find notes
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[06:10] <yvamarar> lol
[06:10] <alexisc> lol
[06:10] <monicam> i like penis'
[06:10] <kayceew> lol
[06:10] <perryp> jesus is my homeboy
[06:10] <brandonw_> fuck u
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[06:11] <alexisc> lol
[06:11] <perryp> mr.quick has no dick
[06:11] <yvamarar> lol
[06:11] <kayceew> lol
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[06:11] <alexisc> i no eh
[06:11] <kayceew> hahah
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[06:11] <alexisc> lol you are sad
[06:11] <kayceew> no really
[06:11] <brandonw_> perry sucks dick
[06:11] <yvamarar> isdat hisname?
[06:11] <alexisc> lol
[06:11] <kayceew> yes verry
[06:11] <monicam> HEY PPL WE DONT KNOW ARE ON THIS
[06:11] <perryp> who here has a dick? i know you do monica =D
[06:11] <yvamarar> i thought it was duck.....
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[06:11] <monicam> LMAO
[06:11] <monicam> oop i clicked capss
[06:11] <alexisc> lol wat that makes no sence
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[06:11] <oskude> bot attack ?
[06:11] <_jason> !ops
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[06:12] <yvamarar> lmao
[06:12] <stratovarius> how to change the owner and the group of a folder?
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[06:12] <alexisc> moica lets goo
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[06:12] <yvamarar> STOP
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[06:12] <perryp> cheese
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[06:12] <kayceew> STOP IT U HOMO
[06:12] <alexisc> im gonna come kick your lilttle butt:)
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[06:12] <boodle> dapper/spamassassin (spamd/spamc specifically).. anyone seeing breakage where connections from spamc will not go through localhost (even with spamc -d 127.0.0.1). always tries enternal interface ip address :-(
[06:12] <perryp> cheese
[06:12] <brandonw_> g
[06:12] <mitchellm> ertu
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[06:12] <mitchellm> er
[06:12] <alexisc> FUK
[06:12] <perryp> cheese
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[06:12] <mitchellm> er
[06:12] <perryp> fucker
[06:12] <alexisc> go fuck your mom :)
[06:12] <monicam> stop typing
[06:12] <perryp> fucker
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[06:12] <mitchellm> te
[06:12] <yvamarar> noduh
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[06:12] <monicam> u guys talk to much
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[06:13] <monicam> ILL FUCK UR MOM
[06:13] <tannera> h
[06:13] <kayceew> OMG U HOMO
[06:13] <tannera> h
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[06:13] <alexisc> tennera?
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[06:13] <monicam> shes a milf
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[06:13] <mitchellm> er
[06:13] <yvamarar> MONICA
[06:13] <monicam> =)
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[06:13] <WebWiz> Thanks Seveas  :)
[06:13] <Seveas> that ought to do it
[06:13] <boodle> dapper/spamassassin (spamd/spamc specifically).. anyone seeing breakage where connections from spamc will not go through localhost (even with spamc -d 127.0.0.1). always tries enternal interface ip address :-(
[06:14] <boodle> ty
[06:14] <Myrtti> <3
[06:14] <Seveas> LoRez, bot attack from 208.181.176.150.lgisp.net
[06:14] <SpEd> Anyone know know where I could find a bittorrent link for the CD image of ubuntu 5.10?
[06:14] <deltron> yay
[06:14] <LoRez> looks like it's under control
[06:14] <deltron> jerks and their bots
[06:14] <Seveas> LoRez, muted & banned :)
[06:14] <deltron> SpEd: ubuntulinux.com ?
[06:14] <gimmulf> In what dir is package manager in breezy?
[06:15] <gimmulf> synaptic...
[06:15] <rryder> `which synaptic`
[06:15] <allison> SpeD > didn't u try any of the mirror sites listed on ubuntu.com
[06:15] <[Dev] Null> find /usr -iname *synaptic*
[06:15] <SpEd> deltron: all I found was the DVD bittorrent.  Maybe I'm blind.  I'll check again
[06:15] <allison> Sped > they have ones on bittorrent also
[06:15] <allison> hang on lemme get u the link
[06:16] <Elsan> Is Firefox 1.5 Final out on the official repositories? If not, does anyone have a guide to install it?
[06:16] <ompaul> sped cdimage.ubuntu.com  all releases and stuff is there
[06:16] <allison> I downloaded mine on bit torrent too
[06:16] <dpupp> My sister wants linux removed from her machine, what would be the proper way of removing grub and what not? ... i've never removed linux from a machine bfore.
[06:16] <gimmulf> cant you guys start an ubuntu-amd64 :)
[06:16] <ompaul> El_Che, no it is not, it will not join this release which is now frozen
[06:16] <deltron> SpEd: go to the mirror of your choice, and it should have a .torrent file on it
[06:16] <boodle> LoRe, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent
[06:16] <Shark27> what is sit0: unknown hardware address type 776?
[06:16] <deltron> gimmulf: word.  I'm gonna install ubuntu on my laptop tonight :)
[06:16] <SpEd> Ah.  Got it.  Thanks.  I missed those the first time.  Figured ther'ed only be one bittorrent link
[06:16] <deltron> :)
[06:17] <deltron> lunchtime
[06:17] <ompaul> El_Che, dapper may see it but only time will tell, what do you need that is in this new release?
[06:17] <deltron> yay
[06:17] <Shark27> what is sit0: unknown hardware address type 776?
[06:17] <NoUse> Elsan search the wiki, I think there is something on there
[06:17] <baaaan> How does the ShipIt system work? How are the costs of the CD's handled?
[06:18] <NoUse> baaaan they pay for it
[06:18] <mrkoje> baaan: cannonical pays for the shipping
[06:19] <ompaul> RichiH, bot attack
[06:19] <RichiH> ompaul: yah
[06:19] <allison> baaaaan > I heard the developers are hard on publicising it...so they give away..even post the ubuntu cds !!!!
[06:19] <swistak> hmmm, quick question, i try to compile mplayer with gui support and i get something like this:
[06:19] <holycow> oh for *bleep* sake
[06:19] <swistak> "Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation
[06:19] <swistak> "
[06:19] <boodle> Shark27, firewire networking support I think
[06:19] <RichiH> ompaul: sory for the delay
[06:19] <ompaul> go to shipit.ubuntu.com for more info on shipping it explains all
[06:19] <allison> baaaan > dunno I ordered for the ship it...but a friend of mine told me prolly will take three months recieve it
[06:20] <Rawplayer> FA
[06:20] <swistak> and that kinda confuses me, anyone know what should i do to enable that support o_O
[06:20] <NoUse> swistak just get it from synaptic, you have to add some repos
[06:20] <NoUse> !tell swistak about repos
[06:20] <holycow> note to any openoffice users ... when inserting an envelope please remember to select the SECOND TAB and select the printing option so that you can select the right printer feed for letters
[06:20] <holycow> damnit :) i'm such a dweeb
[06:20] <allison> best thing > just download it !!!
[06:20] <ompaul> RichiH, hey you came in last time I had a no ops thing for a bit
[06:20] <SirKillalot> Hi, how can I found out which ATi driver version I have installed?
[06:20] <_jason> swistak, you probably need an x11 dev package
[06:20] <baaaan> Why does Canonical pay for the shipping? Why would they do that?
[06:20] <swistak> _jason:  thnx
[06:21] <_jason> swistak, libx11-dev possibly
[06:21] <Alex> baaaan: TO get their product to more people, and 'cuz Mark is ridiculously rich? ;P
[06:21] <mark__> I'm trying to platy
[06:21] <ompaul> baaaan, read the web site please or take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic this is a support channel :)
[06:21] <swistak> i'll try
[06:21] <dooglus> swistak: if you want to build it, get the build dependancies:  sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[06:21] <NoUse> swistak why are you compiling mplayer?
[06:21] <mark__> I'm trying to play an AVI file, I get audio but no video :s
[06:21] <dooglus> mark__: did you install w32codecs?
[06:21] <Stormx2> avi
[06:21] <Stormx2> !avi
[06:21] <ubotu> it has been said that avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:22] <allison> I can't seem to install mpc player too !! lol
[06:22] <_jason> allison, what is mpc player?
[06:22] <Artemis3> the problem is various customs confiscating and demanding taxes for the discs... and the generic letter won't do sometimes... :(
[06:22] <allison> Ogle works fine for the time being
[06:22] <allison> media player classic > jason
[06:22] <rraajj> SirKillalot: I think fglrxinfo and glxinfo will do the job for you. :)
[06:22] <swistak> dooglus: sudo and apt-get are installed by default
[06:22] <mark__> where do I get w32codecs from?
[06:22] <dooglus> swistak: I know.
[06:23] <swistak> NoUse:  i'm masohist?
[06:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell mark__ about w32codecs
[06:23] <dooglus> swistak: that was a command you should run
[06:23] <NoUse> swistak ok, just as long as you know its already packaged for you
[06:23] <xkahn> I hate to see this kind of patch in PAM.
[06:23] <xkahn> -    if ((i == 0) || (strlen(old) <= i)) {
[06:23] <xkahn> +    if ((i == 0) || (strlen(old) < i)) {
[06:24] <drayen> help, i used disk manager to disable my USB disk so i could run e2fck on it, but now it wont re-enable or automount... what can i do to fix this?
[06:24] <swistak> NoUse: well i had to change some options, and they are not enabled by default and can't be changed runtime
[06:24] <swistak> good enought to recompile ?
[06:24] <mark__> How do I install this deb? dkpg?
[06:24] <NoUse> swistak which options?
[06:24] <kukAW> http://picasa.hu/1133365646-pic04031.jpg :)
[06:25] <mark__> How do I install a .deb ?
[06:25] <NoUse> !deb
[06:25] <ubotu> it has been said that deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:25] <mark__> thx
[06:25] <rraajj> mark__: sudo dpkg -i fileName.deb
[06:25] <rraajj> Haha.
[06:25] <munzir> Sirs! for mailman installation they say sendmail shouldn't do DNS verification, see http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node34.html. how can I tell the default in my system?
[06:25] <eobanb> hi all....can someone help me out with my nvidia card? i followed the instructions on the ubuntu FAQ but only 2D acceleration seems to be working, not 3D (e.g. when i run glxgears it says 'couldnt get an RGB double-buffered visual'
[06:26] <Kendrick_> eobanb did you edit your xfree config/
[06:26] <xored> someone has experience with configring the munin plugins, esp. the ip_ plugin ', i want to count the traffic on interface eth0
[06:26] <eobanb> i thought that sudo nvidia-glx-config enable would do that, Kendrick_
[06:27] <eobanb> under section Module it's loading GLcore and glx
[06:27] <Kendrick_> duno havent messed with that,  last time i set nvidia up i hand edited the configfile and added the new driver
[06:27] <guile> !repos
[06:27] <ubotu> somebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:27] <eobanb> so i dont get what the deal is.
[06:28] <mark__> Totem movie player will wont play .avi even after win32codecs.. It's a dvix..
[06:28] <eobanb> 2D acceleration is clearly working, just not 3D
[06:28] <mark__> Any ideas?
[06:29] <Kendrick_> eobanb 2d acceleration is in the default drivers irrc..
[06:29] <tristan> hello
[06:29] <oskude> eobanb, you could try to change the color depth in xorg.conf. my ati with fglrx worked only on (24)32bit (3d)
[06:29] <dooglus> I installed breezy on a different laptop last week and it had a 'debian' menu in the applications menu.  My breezy install doesn't.  How can I add it?
[06:30] <tristan> I am running Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger and smeg doesn't manage to create my menu items. Is there anyone having the same trouble?
[06:30] <ubuntu_> .
[06:30] <ubuntu_> .
[06:30] <dooglus> ubuntu_: !
[06:31] <natdigga> there we go...ok...can anyone help me understand DRI and DRM for video drivers?
[06:31] <[XoO] Errol|KM> hiyo having issues getting ubuntu to install on my G3... anyone able to give me a hand?
[06:31] <_jason> tristan, it's working fine here, I think changes are only applied once you close the menu editor though
[06:31] <Elsan> How long will it take for Firefox 1.5 final to be in the repositories?
[06:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell Elsan about ffbackport
[06:32] <natdigga> I have an ATI LT Rage Pro AGP-133 card
[06:32] <tristan> I've done it. I also made a killall nautilus gnome-panel but the menu does not change
[06:32] <mpmc> It feels nice to be on linux only :D
[06:32] <munzir> Sirs! for mailman installation they say sendmail shouldn't do DNS verification, see http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node34.html. how can I tell the default in my system?
[06:32] <dooglus> Elsan: it won't be in the breezy repositories, other than breezy-backports
[06:32] <coobra> anyone that has a howto install ati drivers that has all links upptodate :)
[06:32] <iveqy> hi,   just bought a Wacom Volito 2 and whanted it to work for linux. I was prepared or a  lot of work. Instead I just typed apt-get install wacom, and plugged it in and it all worked!!! wonderful! But there's one thing, the volito 2 should be able to switch between "pen mode" and "mouse mode" does anyone know how to do this?
[06:33] <redguy> !ffbackport
[06:33] <ubotu> it has been said that ffbackport is Firefox backport will be a while, read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595.  See !ffnew for information on installing it yourself.
[06:33] <Elsan> dooglus: So it will never be in Breezy?
[06:33] <natdigga> coobra: that's exactly what I need.
[06:33] <dooglus> Elsan: breezy is a stable release.  that means the versions of software are frozen, other than for security fixes.
[06:33] <tristan> coobra. I hav a nice xorg.conf if you are running a 1200x800 screen with ATI graphic card
[06:34] <coobra> tristan: no its on my laptop :)
[06:34] <dooglus> Elsan: if you want newer versions of packages you need to enable breezy-backports
[06:34] <Captain_Ussop> so... no one able to give me a hand with the install process?
[06:34] <atrophic> which part of it, Captain_Ussop?
[06:34] <natdigga> tristan: I'm looking for something like that for my ATI 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133 card
[06:34] <Captain_Ussop> getting it started even
[06:34] <theD3viL> Captain_Ussop, what is wrong?
[06:34] <coobra> why cant it be as easy as on a nvidia hhehehe
[06:34] <tristan> Sorry. Normally if you downlad the last ATI drivers from ATI website it should work
[06:34] <atrophic> Captain_Ussop, put the disc in, boot to cd
[06:34] <coobra> ok
[06:34] <Captain_Ussop> I'm overwriting an older distro on my G3 Apple, won't see the CD I made
[06:35] <mpmc> Why can I play a DIVX in totem?
[06:35] <tristan> mpmc : trouble of codec
[06:35] <Captain_Ussop> then again I didn't make it with Nero, ain't got it
[06:35] <Shark27> how configure bcm4401?
[06:35] <dooglus> mpmc: because you don't have the codecs, I would guess.
[06:35] <tristan> Try using easy ubuntu. It shall make everything for you
[06:35] <mpmc> what codec?
[06:35] <Captain_Ussop> I extracted the ISO using Winrar and did a direct copy of the whole thing to CD
[06:35] <atrophic> Captain_Ussop, you'll have to boot to the cd, make sure you have your cd-rom to boot before the hard disk.
[06:35] <mpmc> which one, I mean?
[06:35] <dooglus> mpmc: I'm not sure, but try w32codecs
[06:35] <coobra> hmm
[06:35] <mpmc> tried it
[06:35] <dani> Hi ! somebody can help me? I try to execute Acrobat Reader (acroread) but it don't open... my pc don't made anything
[06:35] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[06:35] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:35] <Elsan> dooglus: I see, thanks!
[06:35] <natdigga> Tristan: was that for me?
[06:35] <atrophic> Captain_Ussop, that might make it unbootable. Try burning the image directly
[06:36] <coobra> mpmc: atomatrix
[06:36] <tristan> mpmc, did you use easy ubuntu? It download all the codecs and install it
[06:36] <oskude> Captain_Ussop, hmm, you should burn that iso as "image". not unpack...
[06:36] <juliux> is anielRobitaille around?
[06:36] <HappyFool> dani: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:36] <tristan> natdigga : did you check ATI website for last ATI drivers?
[06:36] <juliux> is  DanielRobitaille around?
[06:36] <juliux> or someon who can fixe a broken link on fridge?
[06:36] <Captain_Ussop> righto... any way to burn the image without having Nero?
[06:37] <Hirion> mpmc: you can install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse and gstreamer0.8-plugins. Then it should work if you use totem-gstreamer
[06:37] <natdigga> yeah but I couldn't find that card.
[06:37] <Badm4n> where i can get information about how to securing my ubuntu ?
[06:37] <atrophic> I clicked network-manager's applet and it froze the computer, after a restart my wireless card no longer shows up in the networking admin. What'd it do?
[06:37] <tristan> So, anyone knows why my smeg does not want to modify my menu even though I am running it as root...
[06:37] <natdigga> tristan: yeah but I couldn't find that card.
[06:37] <dani> HappyFool, i'm running the 5.10 version
[06:37] <dooglus> tristan: try running it as yourself
[06:37] <atrophic> Captain_Ussop, there are lots of programs that can burn iso images, google for one.
[06:37] <xkahn> Okay.  How do I build a source dpkg?
[06:37] <xkahn> err...  deb?
[06:38] <iveqy> dani: why acrobat? try xpdf
[06:38] <tristan> mpmc : I tell you download esay Ubuntu, hre : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/downloads/EasyUbuntu-2.4beta4.tar.bz2
[06:38] <HappyFool> dani: and you've installed the 'acroread' package?
[06:38] <xkahn> iveqy: xpdf sucks.
[06:38] <xkahn> :)
[06:38] <tristan> If I running myself it says I don't have the rights
[06:38] <mpmc> tristan: How do I istall it?
[06:38] <rapha> Hmm
[06:38] <Shark27> how configure bcm4401? i need help
[06:38] <tristan> extract it
[06:38] <mpmc> tristan: and run the .sh?
[06:39] <natdigga> tristan: I get the resolution and all that..I'm having issues with the 3D side and maybe open gl...I know the screensavers are running choppy
[06:39] <iveqy> xkahn: noway, xpdf just is... :p
[06:39] <[matrim] > an easy way to change hostname on ubuntu?
[06:39] <dani> iveqy, i wish to try acrobat :P
[06:39] <rapha> I made another Samba share with "valid users = myuser" but when I try to connect from windows as that user and with password set by passwd, it says permission denied... what am I doing wrong?
[06:39] <xkahn> iveqy: I find it annoying that it can't display a large number of documents.
[06:39] <dani> HappyFool, yes, i have installed the package...
[06:39] <Shark27> how configure bcm4401? i need help
[06:39] <tristan> mpmc : yes run EasyUbuntu
[06:39] <bort> h
[06:39] <xkahn> iveqy: and since it also can't select text in the documents, it sucks.
[06:39] <oskude> [matrim] , sudo nano /etc/hostname
[06:39] <xkahn> :)
[06:39] <HappyFool> [matrim] : you can use the hostname command, *BUT* make sure you edit /etc/hosts first, or sudo will break
[06:39] <dadde> Ok I think this is my last problem: When I try to open a media file, a mp3 or a video file the program says: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins. How du I do this?
[06:39] <tristan> sorry natdiga, I don't know about 3D
[06:39] <dani> and i see the icon in the gnome menu
[06:40] <coobra> whats wrong with this one  : http://support.ati.com/ics/support/DLRedirect.asp?fileIDExt=7d7b04e989115e193107af57ad662dd2&accountID=737&deptID=894
[06:40] <HappyFool> dani: ok, what happens when you run acroread? (don't paste anything here)
[06:40] <iveqy> xkahn: that's kind a point you have...:)
[06:40] <Shark27> how configure bcm4401? i need help
[06:40] <natdigga> ok...so screensavers runn choppy then?
[06:40] <_jason> [matrim] , gui way: system - administration -networking - general
[06:40] <xkahn> iveqy: I'm not a huge acroread fan, but at least it works.
[06:40] <imrik> somebody see my son?
[06:40] <dadde> Ok I think this is my last problem: When I try to open a media file, a mp3 or a video file the program says: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins. How du I do this?
[06:40] <tristan> dadde : just to read mp3 or to read mp3 using firefox for example
[06:40] <dani> HappyFool, the problem is that nothing happens
[06:40] <xkahn> imrik: what does he look like?
[06:40] <dani> (sorry for my english :$)
[06:40] <dooglus> to answer my own question: to get the 'debian' menu to appear, install package 'menu-xdg'
[06:40] <HappyFool> dani: there was an obscure bug in acrobat in Hoary (ubuntu 5.04) but it was apparently fixed in 5.10. I haven't tested it myself, but you can look here and see if it gives you any clues: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcrobatHowTo
[06:40] <Badm4n> hello pplz ... where i can get information about how to make my ubuntu more secure ( i use 5.10 )
[06:41] <imrik> very small
[06:41] <dadde> tistan ill try
[06:41] <HappyFool> dani: i'll install acroread to test it myself, but it will take some time to download
[06:41] <imrik> ^^
[06:41] <tristan> You'll try what?
[06:41] <natdigga> coobra: was that url for me?
[06:41] <xkahn> imrik: nope.  sorry.
[06:41] <imrik> mmhhh k
[06:41] <dani> aha... ok, i will be here waiting HappyFool  ;)
[06:41] <dani> thanks :D
[06:41] <coobra> natdigga:  no whats wrong withit
[06:41] <[matrim] > HappyFool, do I need to reboot?
[06:42] <HappyFool> Badm4n: ubuntu is fairly secure by default; have you browsed https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <HappyFool> [matrim] : no
[06:42] <Shark27> is there anyone who can help me with broadcom 4401? I can't detect it
[06:42] <dadde> tistan how do you mean?
[06:42] <HappyFool> [matrim] : 'sudo hostname newname' should be instantaneous -- but make sure to fix /etc/hosts first
[06:42] <tristan> dadde : you want to listen to mp3 using totem?
[06:42] <natdigga> coobra: The 3d screensavers are all choppy and all...I'm not sure if its the 3d or OpenGL
[06:42] <HappyFool> [matrim] : editing /etc/hostname is good too, for when you eventually do reboot
[06:42] <tristan> dadde : or read a divX?
[06:43] <dadde> tristan, yeah or wath a movie or somthing
[06:43] <HappyFool> dani: ok, busy 'apt-get update'ing now...
[06:43] <coobra> natdigga:  im lost :( i hawe no idea wtf im going to do hehehe
[06:43] <mpmc> Easy Ubuntu takes forever :P
[06:43] <tristan> OK. then same as for mpmc : download esay ubuntu here : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/downloads/EasyUbuntu-2.4beta4.tar.bz2
[06:43] <natdigga> oh....coobra  you having a video card issue too?
[06:43] <[matrim] > HappyFool, OK, thanks, now I just need to find ut why nothing is starting after I changed hostname :/
[06:43] <tristan> It will modify your deposit and download the codec needed for everything
[06:43] <coobra> natdigga: yes :/
[06:43] <dani> HappyFool,  ok xD dont worry
[06:43] <natdigga> coobra: kk...Hmmm
[06:44] <mpmc> It's a nice little app :)
[06:44] <HappyFool> [matrim] : did you add the new name to /etc/hosts ?
[06:44] <tristan> dadde : after extracting you need to run the EasyUbuntu sh script
[06:44] <onkarshinde> !w32codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:44] <coobra> natdigga:  i want it so i can se movies and stuf on the tv-out :P
[06:44] <xored> someone has experience with configring the munin plugins, esp. the ip_ plugin ', i want to count the traffic on interface eth0
[06:45] <[matrim] > HappyFool, Hmm, would be good if I had done that I think, since it needs to be listed to work
[06:45] <mpmc> Wireless Is soo damm hard to install on Ubuntu..
[06:45] <tristan> mpmc : my wireless was not hard to instal. It did everything alone
[06:45] <natdigga> coobra: i'm just trying to get my vid to run smoother...
[06:45] <HappyFool> [matrim] : if you haven't, sudo probably won't work anymore
[06:45] <mpmc> took me ages, I had WEP enabled, and No idea how to install it :P
[06:46] <dadde> tristan, ok ill try
[06:46] <[matrim] > BRB peeps
[06:46] <mpmc> found out ndiswrapper :P
[06:46] <tibu_> HappyFool, i'm dani, ok? i change my nickname..
[06:46] <tibu_> :
[06:46] <tibu_> :)
[06:46] <tristan> dadde : everything should go right after. Tell me if it works nicely
[06:46] <coobra> natdigga:  ok i get a perfect picture and such on my laptop but i want to activate the tv-out
[06:46] <HappyFool> tibu_: ok
[06:46] <kane_> Hi, I have a fresh install of Breezy Badger with the latest updates. I have in my box a few disks from my old freebsd box i'd like to mount. i checked the layout with cfdisk and it seems i should be able to mount it with 'mount -r -t ufs /dev/hde1 /mnt' -- it doesn't complain, but the drive appears completely empty. Am i missing something obvious?
[06:46] <mpmc> tristan: It's still installing FF plugins.. :/
[06:46] <tristan> so nobody has trouble updating his menu with smeg?
[06:47] <HappyFool> tibu_: it's going to be a long wait- my connection's dropped to 2kB/s
[06:47] <dadde> tristan, ok :D
[06:47] <tristan> mpmc : it takes time depending on your connection and everything but don't worry
[06:47] <oskude> kane_, its normally not good to mount stuff directly to /mnt, do a directory in /mnt and mount that...
[06:48] <mpmc> tristan: I'm on a 3mb line (shared)
[06:48] <tibu_> HappyFool, i have find it !!!
[06:48] <tristan> well. JUst wait. You'lle see it will work. It worked for me
[06:48] <tibu_> HappyFool, i had to change one line of the script...
[06:48] <oskude> kane_ and try to mount without defining filetype
[06:48] <coobra> tristan: do you hawe tv-out ?
[06:48] <HappyFool> tibu_: what was it?
[06:48] <tibu_> and now it's works :D
[06:48] <clement> is someone could give me the default root password please
[06:48] <HappyFool> tibu_: which script?
[06:48] <tristan> coobra : I don't know
[06:48] <coobra> k
[06:49] <HappyFool> tibu_: /usr/bin/acroread ?
[06:49] <tibu_> no..
[06:49] <tristan> I have a S-cideo output but never tried it
[06:49] <oskude> kane_ and you may need "sudo" for mounting wihtout fstab entry
[06:49] <onkarshinde> I am having an ext3 partition which I would like to mount in a way so that everybody can read and write it.
[06:49] <tibu_> /usr/bin/Acrobat5/bin/acroread.sh
[06:49] <onkarshinde> How can I do it.
[06:49] <HappyFool> tibu_: is it as described in the bug linked from the wiki?
[06:49] <boodle> how do you do ip_forwarding in dapper without /etc/network/options? just add script to ifup.d ?
[06:49] <HappyFool> tibu_: so the bug is still present
[06:49] <kane_> oskude: i've mounted it with sudo and with sudo'ing to root first
[06:49] <clement>  is someone could give  is someone could give me the default root password please
[06:49] <tibu_> HappyFool, yes, it is ;)
[06:49] <HappyFool> tibu_: i'm going to test this myself and reopen the bug
[06:50] <oskude> kane_, you mean using "sudo" as root ?
[06:50] <tristan> onkashinde : you have to modify fstab in /etc/ I think
[06:50] <tibu_> HappyFool, ok, how are your download?
[06:50] <HappyFool> tibu_: still apt-get updating
[06:50] <onkarshinde> tristan: I know how to do it. I want exact options
[06:51] <guile> hi,how i can mount a directory via web? what's the syntax?
[06:51] <kane_> oskude: sudo bash; mount ....
[06:51] <tibu_> HappyFool, but i see a problem... when i look for the version of acrobat, it is the 5.0.10
[06:51] <tristan> onkarshinde : did you try user,umask=000. I am not sure if it works for evryone to write on it
[06:51] <xored> jmworx: are you jm_ ? can yoiu help me a bit, aim really confused
[06:51] <HappyFool> tibu_: oh
[06:51] <tibu_> HappyFool, and i think that i have been installed the version 7.0..
[06:51] <HappyFool> tibu_: right, breezy is supposed to have 7
[06:51] <oskude> kane_, "sudo bash" ? "sudo mount ...."
[06:52] <onkarshinde> tristan: tried, not working
[06:52] <Badm4n> well
[06:52] <Badm4n> just like u said
[06:52] <tibu_> HappyFool, if i make aptitude install acroread, what is the package that it install?
[06:52] <Badm4n> ubuntu = secure by default
[06:52] <onkarshinde> tristan: without any options it works
[06:52] <HappyFool> tibu_: use      dpkg -l 'acroread*'      to check
[06:52] <tristan> onkarshinde : So what is the trouble
[06:52] <tibu_> ok
[06:52] <kane_> oskude: i've tried both, i've left of the -t too, no luck -- it mounts succesfully *but* the drive appears empty
[06:52] <Firen> how to show tasks list?
[06:52] <Badm4n> is that enoung to use :
[06:52] <kane_> oskude: same with under /mnt/foo or any other dir
[06:52] <mark__> help! I cant update my system,
[06:52] <xored> jmworx: are you jm_ ? can yoiu help me a bit, aim really confused
[06:52] <mark__> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[06:52] <Badm4n> apt-get upgrade
[06:52] <Badm4n> apt-get install
[06:52] <Badm4n> ?
[06:52] <HappyFool> tibu_: should be 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1
[06:53] <oskude> kane_, hmm
[06:53] <tibu_> em... nops
[06:53] <Delvien> Can anyone give me a hand with a little Samba setupd?
[06:53] <tibu_> HappyFool, acroread       5.10-0.2
[06:53] <HappyFool> tibu_: nothing?
[06:53] <Erron> sorry i'm using FC4 but since no support there at all i'm hoping maybe someone here can answer my question. how can I allow my other user account to be able to open ports, like run webserver from a user I created instead of root, it's not letting me, port higher than 1024 anything even 8080 or 8888, i'm getting Resource id #20 PORT 8080FATAL: socket bind failed on port 8080 : Invalid argument[clevereye@fc4125 bin] 
[06:53] <onkarshinde> tristan: when I provide no option, it mounts but a user can't write to it.
[06:53] <oskude> kane_, and "df -h" shows that the partition is not empty ?
[06:53] <mark__> How do, I kill the process thats locking the updater?
[06:53] <HappyFool> tibu_: are you sure you're not on hoary? (ubuntu 5.04) ?
[06:53] <kane_> oskude: correct
[06:54] <kane_> it lists the drive space correctly though
[06:54] <tristan> onkarshinde : do you think that "group, umask=000" would work?
[06:54] <kane_> it knows what's free, what's not.. it's all correct
[06:54] <Badm4n> you said ubuntu = secure by default ... is that mean ... ubuntu is enough to get patch / upgrade only using apt-get upgrade/update ?
[06:54] <tibu_> HappyFool, i don't think it... where i can see it?
[06:54] <mark__> :(
[06:54] <oskude> kane_, does "sudo ls" show any files in that partition ?
[06:54] <dxdemetriou> hi
[06:54] <HappyFool> tibu_:   lsb_release -a
[06:54] <dadde> tristan, is a reboot nedded after the install of the new codex?
[06:54] <HappyFool> mark__: do you have synaptic running?
[06:54] <kane_> oskude: btw, i've tried this with all 4 disks -- they all mount fine, they all df fine, no files
[06:54] <trappist> no
[06:55] <tibu_> HappyFool, yes, i have the 5.10
[06:55] <trappist> dadde: reboots are for hardware upgrades and kernel rebuilds
[06:55] <onkarshinde> tristan: Nope. I checked man page of mount, there are no options as those for ext3
[06:55] <soundray> Does anyone here know about ADSL?
[06:55] <mark__> happyfool: No I rebooted
[06:55] <tristan> dadde : no
[06:55] <dadde> oki
[06:55] <Erron> anyone? :o
[06:55] <oskude> kane_, hmm. sry, i never has such a situation...
[06:55] <kane_> oskude: no files whatsoever... and remember, i'm already root using 'sudo bash'
[06:55] <mrkoje> soundray: what do you want to know
[06:55] <dxdemetriou> Is there somebody that knows how can I change the volume shortcuts from the master to pcm?
[06:56] <kane_> oskude: same here -- i know my way around this a little bit :) usually it's missing ufs support in the kernel, but since the mount and df work, i'm a bit puzzled
[06:56] <mark__> happyfool: Something has locked the file, how do I unlock it..?
[06:56] <soundray> mrkoje, I have a three year old modem. Connection is unstable because of line noise. I wonder if a new modem would perform better. Otherwise I'll have to downgrade again.
[06:56] <trappist> Erron: you'd have to edit the kernel source and rebuild, afaik
[06:56] <kane_> oskude: it did understand it with out the -t btw, something debian never could
[06:56] <oskude> kane_, your "sudo bash" is something that i never used...
[06:56] <mrkoje> soundray: How far away from the home office are you?
[06:56] <Erron> so nothing simple? like permission or edit some file for the particular user etc..
[06:56] <kane_> oskude: just gives you a shell with root privileges
[06:56] <soundray> mrkoje, downgrade from 2Mbit to 1Mbit
[06:57] <dadde> tristan, it works like a sharm whit vlc but not whit totem :/
[06:57] <HappyFool> mark__: um
[06:57] <kane_> oskude: saves typing 'sudo' infront of everything :)
[06:57] <HappyFool> mark__: standby
[06:57] <soundray> mrkoje, do you mean the exchange? Ca. 2 km
[06:57] <Agrajag> kane_: you might try sudo -i instead
[06:57] <mrkoje> soundray: you might also try a new noise cancler
[06:57] <tristan> dadde : what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:57] <onkarshinde> dxdemetriou: right click on volum control on left top side and see preferences
[06:57] <dadde> 5.10 downloded it today, for ppc
[06:57] <HappyFool> tibu_: i don't know how you ended up with acrobat 5 then. did you install it with apt?
[06:57] <soundray> mrkoje, I don't have one right now, just a splitter bw modem and Telecom line.
[06:57] <oskude> kane_, well, just a "variable" i dont use, and here all works (well, never used UDF) :)
[06:57] <dadde> tristan, 5.10 downloded it today, for ppc
[06:58] <tibu_> HappyFool, i install it with aptitude install acroread
[06:58] <soundray> mrkoje, what's a noise cancler?
[06:58] <tristan> dadde : well. It should work also with totem. I use totem to read my divX and it works. Maybe need a reboot
[06:58] <Erron> trappist so nothing simple? like permission or edit some file for the particular user etc.. ?
[06:58] <HappyFool> mark__: what do you normally use for package management? synaptic, or apt-get, or ?
[06:58] <Masahiro> Hello
[06:58] <kane_> Agrajag: same result i'm afraid.. although the profile shouldn't interfere with the mount command :(
[06:58] <mark__> happyfool: synaptic
[06:58] <Masahiro> I've just installed Ubuntu with a dual boot on Windows, but I am having problems with the sound
[06:58] <dadde> tristan, ill try a reboot
[06:59] <mrkoje> sondray: goes between the modem and the phone socket in the wall
[06:59] <Masahiro> All the volume controls are up
[06:59] <Masahiro> But no sound
[06:59] <HappyFool> tibu_: what does 'apt-cache show acroread|grep ^Version' say ? (should be 1 line)
[06:59] <mrkoje> soundray: a little tiny device.... plug in one side to the modem and the other the wall
[06:59] <Madeye>  guys, i've downloaded firefox 1.5 before 10 days, do I have to download the latest released version, Or i'll receive the update thru firefox itself?
[06:59] <mark__> happyfool: I'm using the update app, It seems to be running now.. :s
[06:59] <Masahiro> Shall I try a reboot?
[06:59] <tristan> onkarshinde : I have seen that you  should users,rwxrwxrwx. did you try that?
[06:59] <HappyFool> mark__: are you comfortable using the command line
[07:00] <HappyFool> mark__: ah, ok
[07:00] <mark__> not really,
[07:00] <mark__> gotta go
[07:00] <soundray> mrkoje, I'll google around. Is it a typical electronics shop item?
[07:00] <mrkoje> soundray: maybe computer shop item... ya
[07:00] <tibu_> HappyFool, Version: 5.10-0.2
[07:01] <HappyFool> tibu_: how did you install ubuntu?
[07:01] <tibu_> with install cd
[07:01] <spermix> ciao
[07:01] <HappyFool> tibu_: i mean, did you do a fresh breezy install or an upgrade from hoary ?
[07:01] <peadot> hi
[07:01] <nubs0r> I have an issue, i have both apaches on here by accident, apache 2 and the old 1.33 version
[07:01] <k0p> hi all.
[07:01] <dxdemetriou> I have the C-Media Electronics CMI9761 (oss mixer) and I see another name VIA 8235 (Alsa mixer). The problem is in the VIA card that have a master and the shortcut is on the VIA card. Is there any way to remove this driver?
[07:01] <nubs0r> now they're conflicting and i cant get php to work
[07:01] <spermix> ei
[07:01] <nubs0r> how do i purge all this crap and start fresh
[07:02] <soundray> mrkoje, thanks for the tip!
[07:02] <oskude> nubs0r, sudo apt-get --purge remove apache
[07:02] <tibu_> HappyFool, i made a fresh breezy install
[07:02] <HappyFool> tibu_: very odd. maybe you repositories are incorrectly setup. could you put the file /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl ? (tell me the URL when you're done)
[07:02] <peadot> anyone got a hint on german ubuntu irc channel?
[07:02] <nubs0r> osfameron, doesnt taht only get rid of apache.
[07:02] <nubs0r> oskude, *
[07:02] <HappyFool> peadot: #ubuntu-de ?
[07:02] <LakersFan> hi guys, does anyone have any experience with setting up a radeon x800 for dual monitors with spanning (not cloning)?
[07:02] <oskude> nubs0r, sudo apt-get --purge remove apache* :)
[07:02] <nubs0r> oskude, how do i get rid of apache, apache2, and all the given configs and php modules for each
[07:02] <peadot> happyfool: thx, i always forget that... ^^
[07:03] <peadot> bye
[07:03] <oskude> nubs0r, sudo apt-get --purge remove apache*
[07:03] <nubs0r> oskude, this better work, im about to smash my computer
[07:03] <twibbler> Hi all could somebody tell me the repositories which contain mtsfonts and kdevelop please.
[07:03] <nubs0r> can't get a LAMP running on this piece of crap
[07:03] <nubs0r> twibbler, why use kdevelop?
[07:03] <twibbler> nubs0r I like it.
[07:03] <nubs0r> use codeblocks
[07:04] <twibbler> nubs0r nope need kdevelop please.
[07:04] <derrickw> does anybody know how to set breezy to not automatically start the x server at boot?
[07:04] <LakersFan> twibbler: apt-cache search
[07:04] <nubs0r> derrickw, you have to get rid of gdm
[07:04] <tibu_> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5238
[07:04] <HappyFool> derrickw: disable the gdm service
[07:05] <twibbler> LakersFan: still will only search the set repositories which dont contain either kdevelop or the fonts.
[07:05] <derrickw> what if i'm using kde?
[07:05] <LakersFan> twibbler: enable universal
[07:05] <LakersFan> in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:05] <HappyFool> derrickw: kdm, i think
[07:05] <dell500> anyone here know where to get the ati-driver-install-8.19.10-1.run somewhere else other than the ati site?
[07:05] <twibbler> LakersFan: on which repository ?.
[07:05] <StR> hi all
[07:05] <derrickw> oh wow, apparrently i've got kdm and gdm services both running. would that be slowing things down?
[07:05] <StR> anyone knows how to install  php 5.1 in kubuntu?
[07:05] <nubs0r> StR, might have to compile.
[07:06] <LakersFan> twibbler: this is what I am using: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[07:06] <LakersFan> so no one with dual monitor radeon setup? :(
[07:06] <HappyFool> tibu_: ah-ha. from line 13 and 14 on you have hoary repositories
[07:06] <navarone> tibu> you have repos enabled for both hoary and breezy...?
[07:07] <tibu_> :S
[07:07] <HappyFool> tibu_: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 for an example sources.list for breezy
[07:07] <StR> are there any backports for breezy?
[07:07] <HappyFool> tibu_: it *might* be necessary to do a dist-upgrade after you update, but i'm not sure
[07:08] <tibu_> HappyFool, then i have to change my sourcelist for this one
[07:08] <tibu_> and it's all?
[07:08] <HappyFool> !tell StR about backports
[07:08] <twibbler> LakersFan: thank you ... now I know what the problem is, the repositories have gb. on the front not us. after fresh install for England.
[07:08] <HappyFool> tibu_: and then do 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get upgrade' (or maybe 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade')
[07:08] <LakersFan> ;)
[07:08] <HappyFool> tibu_: if apt-get complains about packages being held back, you'll probably need the dist-upgrade
[07:09] <tibu_> HappyFool, ok, thanks :) , i'm going to do it
[07:10] <nubs0r> chris@scheduler:/var/www$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:10] <nubs0r> sudo: /etc/init.d/apache2: command not found
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> look in the init.d dir?
[07:10] <tibu_> HappyFool, but i have to delete all my old sourcelist?
[07:10] <nubs0r> Dr_Willis, i did, its not in there..
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> it may be httpd
[07:11] <HappyFool> tibu_: yip
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:11] <HappyFool> tibu_: well, all the hoary ones anyway
[07:11] <nubs0r> sudo: /etc/init.d/httpd: command not found
[07:11] <nubs0r> tab complete would have shown..its not in there..wtf
[07:11] <HappyFool> tibu_: i think the one i pointed you too is complete (it should have everything)
[07:11] <wasabi> Anybody familiar with l2tp server setups with Ubuntu?
[07:11] <XiCillin> anybody here use f-prot
[07:11] <XiCillin> ?
[07:12] <tibu_> HappyFool, ok, i'm doing it..
[07:12] <dxdemetriou> noone knows for that I asked? :(
[07:12] <HappyFool> nubs0r: /etc/init.d/apache2 is in the 'apache2-common' package -- is that installed?
[07:12] <nubs0r> chris@scheduler:/var/www$ sudo apache2ctl start
[07:12] <nubs0r> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:12] <nubs0r> yes it is.
[07:12] <tibu_> HappyFool, i have to gone... in 10 minutes i tell you something. Thanks ;)
[07:13] <HappyFool> tibu_: ok. good luck
[07:13] <nubs0r> so theres no hope for me?
[07:13] <nubs0r> god forbid php worked with apache the first time
[07:13] <HappyFool> nubs0r: what does 'dpkg -l apache2-common' say?
[07:13] <nubs0r> apache2-common 2.0.54-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[07:14] <HappyFool> and the two letters at the beginning of that line?
[07:14] <nubs0r> ii
[07:14] <HappyFool> hmm
[07:14] <nubs0r> is there any way to start over without reinstalling everything
[07:14] <HappyFool> maybe you need to reinstall apache2
[07:14] <nubs0r> i mean ilke, formatting and stuff
[07:15] <nubs0r> i have, tons of times
[07:15] <nubs0r> apache 1.33 and apache 2 were confliction with modules
[07:15] <nubs0r> i had like libapache-mod-php4 and 5 installed and the same with apache2, and wheever i tried to open a php file
[07:15] <nubs0r> it tried to save it instead.
[07:15] <nubs0r> so finally i purged apache* off the system and reinstalled apache2 and php4
[07:15] <dxdemetriou> hi
[07:16] <HappyFool> nubs0r: have you got any apache or php config you mind losing?
[07:16] <nubs0r> no
[07:16] <nubs0r> i have sugarcrm in my home directory
[07:16] <dxdemetriou> hi
[07:16] <nubs0r> thats what ive been trying to get working, and it wont ..
[07:16] <nubs0r> i mean mysql runs fine,
[07:17] <Acidic32> how do i install SVN?
[07:17] <dxdemetriou> I have the C-Media Electronics CMI9761 (oss mixer) and I see another name VIA 8235 (Alsa mixer). The problem is in the VIA card that have a master and the shortcut is on the VIA card. Is there any way to remove this driver?
[07:17] <dxdemetriou>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[07:17] <seth_k> sudo apt-get install subversion @ Acidic32
[07:17] <twibbler> nubs0r: so now I have kdevelop where do I get codeblocks from ?
[07:18] <SirKillalot> can I resume a copy with cp?
[07:18] <nubs0r> TweedleDumb, search for it.
[07:18] <dxdemetriou> I ma visible now?
[07:18] <HappyFool> nubs0r: my suggestion would be to remove apache2 and php (yet again), install apache2 and check that the basic webserver works. in particular, check that /etc/init.d/apache2 exists
[07:18] <HappyFool> nubs0r: and check that it's there after each package you install after that
[07:19] <dadde> hmm totem nor amarok can play mp3:s or movies but tut vlc can? How do i fix this? I have tried to run easyUbuntu :/
[07:19] <dxdemetriou> hi
[07:20] <Acidic32> where do i download SVN from?
[07:20] <stewski> easyubuntu
[07:20] <HappyFool> dxdemetriou: sound problems are difficult; it looks like there are no experts around to help you
[07:20] <pder> I TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE CRAP
[07:20] <nubs0r> lol
[07:20] <Acidic32> lol
[07:20] <Acidic32> pder: your crap
[07:20] <Acidic32> :)
[07:20] <Artemis3> lol
[07:20] <nubs0r> your?
[07:20] <nubs0r> don't you mean 'you're'
[07:20] <mpmc> in totem movie player the MPEG4 renderer doesn't do a good job yet, In Mplayer the pictures perfect, but I can't view in fullscreen, I just get the little picture in the middle :(
[07:20] <pder> Acidic32: what about my crap?
[07:20] <Artemis3> how are you gentlemen
[07:20] <stewski> pder did you try gramma :-)
[07:20] <nubs0r> mpmc, use xine
[07:21] <dxdemetriou> hi
[07:21] <eobanb> how can i tell what modules my graphics driver is loading?
[07:21] <HappyFool> Acidic32: it's in the 'main' ubuntu repository. you can install it using synaptic if your repositories are correctly setup
[07:21] <nubs0r> pder, it's not like you made any more sense than Acidic32
[07:21] <icewt> mpmc: you must choose xv for video output in mplayer
[07:21] <pder> nubs0r: word
[07:21] <Acidic32> ermm
[07:21] <Acidic32> no i want the website addy for it
[07:21] <nubs0r> eobanb, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:21] <Acidic32> i cant seem to find it in google
[07:21] <HappyFool> Acidic32: subversion.tigris.org
[07:21] <HappyFool> Acidic32: but why? i strongly recommend installing it from the repositories
[07:22] <eobanb> nubs0r, i can't load GLX even though it's under Section "Module"
[07:22] <Acidic32> its for a non-ubuntu webserver
[07:22] <HappyFool> ah
[07:22] <Acidic32> i got to install it on
[07:22] <Acidic32> so my ubuntu system can update it
[07:22] <Acidic32> :P
[07:22] <dadde> hmm totem nor amarok can play mp3:s or movies but tut vlc can? How do i fix this? I have tried to run easyUbuntu :/
[07:23] <nubs0r> eobanb, modprobe..
[07:23] <HappyFool> Acidic32: there is a #svn, fwiw
[07:23] <nubs0r> eobanb, lsmod | grep -i "glx"
[07:23] <nubs0r> see if its even loaded.
[07:23] <PokerFacePenguin> how do you change your current timezone to something else?  I am GMT (EST) and my local timezone is listed as UTC.  Problem is my bios clock keeps getting reset when i sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org
[07:23] <allison> dadde > I am not yet able to install vlc....but xmms plays mp3s...which I installed !
[07:23] <mpmc> icewt: Thx that did the trick!
[07:23] <nubs0r> HappyFool, can you guide me through the steps in doing this, like removing all isntances of apache and all that just so i can do it properly this time
[07:24] <nubs0r> HappyFool, i just want it to work man, you know? I'm sick of this bs
[07:24] <dadde> allison thx
[07:24] <XiCillin> does gnome have a gui for cron or only kde?
[07:24] <eobanb> nubs0r, tried that, it's not appearing in the list.
[07:24] <nubs0r> eobanb, then modprobe glx
[07:24] <HappyFool> nubs0r: i have successfully installed apache a few times, and will gladly help you with it. i don't have any experience with php, though
[07:25] <Acidic32> thx
[07:25] <nubs0r> HappyFool, well i would greatly appreciate it if you could help with the apache thing, it still helps :)
[07:25] <allison> dadde > and as for dvds...I am using Ogle...but the frame skips a bit.....have to try to get vlc working...but in the meantime.....np
[07:25] <eobanb> module glx not found ...are you sure that's right
[07:25] <Artemis3> lack of patience and linux don't mix nubs0r
[07:25] <nubs0r> eobanb, you tell me
[07:25] <nubs0r> Artemis3, 3 weeks of trying to get PHP and apache working...
[07:25] <nubs0r> Artemis3, trying to run a LAMP shouldnt take that long should it?
[07:25] <Artemis3> hehe
[07:25] <Artemis3> hmm
[07:26] <Artemis3> last time i tried, it was pretty simple. just install packages and edit a couple text files
[07:26] <nubs0r> so the first thign i have to do is purge all the apache configs and start fresh
[07:26] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: if you install apache over apache2 it will break your PHP configs
[07:26] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, i think thats what happened
[07:26] <nubs0r> and i want to start fresh without reinstalling..
[07:26] <Artemis3> hmm
[07:26] <nubs0r> the system i mean, without formatting and all that
[07:28] <HappyFool> nubs0r: my aptitude foo is not all that strong, it appears
[07:28] <gundu> hi
[07:28] <HappyFool> nubs0r: first thing to do is list all the apache2 packages with dpkg
[07:28] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: was having same problems...installed each part of LAMP seperate and used php4 and apache2-mpm-prefork
[07:28] <HappyFool> nubs0r: dpkg -l 'apache2*'|grep ^ii
[07:28] <mpmc> Is there any drivers for leximark X1100 All in one printer/scanner/copy on Ubuntu?
[07:28] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, well i have mysql working fine
[07:28] <nubs0r> kk
[07:28] <gundu> how can i change the timezone ? played a bit with 'date' but dont know how to cahgne to UTC/GMT
[07:29] <HappyFool> nubs0r: then remove each one with 'sudo aptitude purge <packagename>'
[07:29] <nubs0r> apache2, apache2 common, apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils
[07:29] <nubs0r> HappyFool, can i use apt-get or?
[07:29] <gimmulf> !font
[07:29] <ubotu> 'fixed' is the one true font!
[07:29] <gimmulf> !fonts
[07:29] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[07:29] <davconvent> is there a replacement for ddclient? I cant' find it in the defaukt 5.10 packages
[07:29] <HappyFool> nubs0r: apt-get is fine. i think the command is 'apt-get --purge remove <packagename>'
[07:30] <eobanb> should i be disabling DRI if i want to use nvidia 3D acceleration?
[07:30] <nubs0r> k removed.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> mpmc,  for the 'printer' part  - check the cups.org site for if that printer is supported. for the scanner - check the "SANE" homepage.
[07:30] <HappyFool> nubs0r: ok, try 'sudo aptitude install apache2'
[07:31] <nubs0r> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[07:31] <nubs0r>   apache2 apache2-common apache2-mpm-worker apache2-utils
[07:31] <thomas_> hello, what is the standard sound device in ubuntu?
[07:31] <thomas_> isn't is /dev/dsp?
[07:31] <imajuchi> hi, can someone please help me fix this problem. ubuntu will not reconigze audio cds
[07:31] <yhcheong> i have problem with printer also
[07:31] <vegos> does anyone no why "sudo" is failing for me
[07:31] <HappyFool> nubs0r: that's what i've got
[07:31] <yhcheong> my printer is canon ip1000
[07:31] <mpmc> Dr_Willis: Ok, thx
[07:31] <nubs0r> HappyFool, making sure :)
[07:31] <eobanb> vegos, what's the error
[07:31] <nubs0r> HappyFool, okay its setup, im gona check /etc/init.d/ now for it
[07:31] <yhcheong> how am i going to make it works?
[07:31] <davconvent> no one using ddclient here ?
[07:31] <nubs0r> HappyFool, okay its there.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> mpmc,  you dont want to know how many Lexmark "things" ive thrown away in the last 2 years. :P
[07:31] <davconvent> is there another dyndns client?
[07:32] <HappyFool> nubs0r: ok. the server should be running
[07:32] <imajuchi> it will also not detect any cds when i first insert them
[07:32] <nubs0r> chris@scheduler:~$ sudo ls /etc/init.d/ | grep -i "apache"
[07:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell yhcheong about printing
[07:32] <nubs0r> apache2
[07:32] <yhcheong> anyone can help?
[07:32] <yhcheong> :(
[07:32] <HappyFool> nubs0r: you should be able to browse http://127.0.0.1/
[07:32] <nubs0r> 80/tcp    open  http
[07:32] <nubs0r> yeh its open
[07:32] <swim> are there other ubuntu irc chans?
[07:32] <mpmc> Dr_Willis: nothing on there :(
[07:32] <vegos> does anyone no why "sudo" is failing for me
[07:33] <nubs0r> now PokerFacePenguin how do i get PHP working
[07:33] <eobanb> vegos what's the error messasge
[07:33] <eobanb> message*
[07:33] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, so that it doesnt try to save the php file instead of reading it
[07:33] <nubs0r> HappyFool, thanks man i appreciate it, im half way there :)
[07:33] <vegos> it says something about ubuntu cant getUser...()
[07:33] <HappyFool> nubs0r: cool. good luck with php
[07:33] <HappyFool> vegos: getHostByName ?
[07:33] <vegos> yea
[07:33] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: what happens is you can get php4 working under apache2-mpm-prefork but but if you install apache metapackage it will start the download thing again
[07:34] <HappyFool> vegos: if you changed your hostname, you need to update /etc/hosts
[07:34] <thomas_> i have a application that tries to record from /dev/dsp (i have a microphone attached), but i doesn't work, no sound
[07:34] <imajuchi> does anyone knows how can i get my audio cds working in ubuntu
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> mpmc,  not a good sign. :(
[07:34] <thomas_> can anyone help?
[07:34] <vegos> i cant do that without using sudo though
[07:34] <HappyFool> vegos: add your new hostname to the line starting with 127.0.0.1 -- you'll have to do this in recovery mode
[07:34] <aswq630201> HELP NEEDED DEAR UBUNTU users
[07:34] <HappyFool> vegos: indeed. changing hostname is, unfortunately, a perilous undertaking
[07:35] <nubs0r> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.4.0-3 Server at localhost Port 80
[07:35] <nubs0r> ITS UP
[07:35] <vegos> i have just reinstalled
[07:35] <eobanb> heh.
[07:35] <nubs0r> omg im gonna cream my pants if this works
[07:35] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: :P
[07:35] <vegos> and i didnt run in to this before
[07:35] <Seveas> aswq630201, the caps lock key is on the left side of your keyboard
[07:35] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: hope ya got it
[07:35] <aswq630201> i am a mandrake user and need information about dictionary program of ubuntu.where can i get it and can i use it on mandrake?
[07:35] <aswq630201> sorry seveas
[07:35] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, yeah me too, thanks man, i didnt know that the packages would break that badly
[07:35] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: was frustrating for me to install it
[07:35] <vegos> should i just reinstall?
[07:35] <nubs0r> i gotta watch what i get and not use regexp so much with apt
[07:35] <Seveas> aswq630201, ask on a mandrake channel
[07:36] <HappyFool> vegos: no
[07:36] <HappyFool> vegos: boot in recovery mode and edit /etc/hosts
[07:36] <eobanb> aswq630201, i'm not sure if thisisthe place for that question
[07:36] <aswq630201> mandrake has got no dictionary program
[07:36] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: did you do the php(info) test yet?
[07:36] <Seveas> eobanb, i'm sure it's not :)
[07:36] <eobanb> any question that begins with 'i am a mandrake user' is probably not for this channel
[07:36] <maruchan> anyone know how to get certain programs to the system tray? i did something i azrues dosnet shwo up on the tray anymore
[07:36] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, ah shit, doesnt work..it tries to save the file.
[07:36] <aswq630201> oh plz..i need an OFFLINE dictionary program very badly
[07:36] <vegos> ok how do i boot in recovery mode
[07:37] <eobanb> vegos what bootloader are you using
[07:37] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, oh wait, if i specify it like this http://localhost/sugarcrm/install.php
[07:37] <peadot> does anyone have a hint on how to install a radeon 9800xt under ubuntu? german wiki didn't help, german irc didn't either...
[07:37] <nubs0r> PokerFacePenguin, then it works
[07:37] <PokerFacePenguin> nubs0r: uninstall it, dont install apache2-worker....install the apache2-mpm-prefork
[07:37] <aswq630201> why is that so that ppl are too much obsessive about dist,
[07:37] <PokerFacePenguin> oh, cool then
[07:37] <mpmc> Dr_Willis: under Printers, It's found it, I sent a test page and nothing came out <_<
[07:37] <anavim> what's the default firewall app on ubuntu? iptables?
[07:37] <aswq630201> ubuntu means humanity to others right?
[07:37] <anavim> yes
[07:37] <aswq630201> i am a mandrake user and need information about dictionary program of ubuntu.where can i get it and can i use it on mandrake?
[07:38] <Seveas> aswq630201, mandrake HAS a dictionary program
[07:38] <Seveas> ask on a mandrake channel
[07:38] <tyler_165> Anyone have any advise on where to find good themes?  Do any come in complete packages (borders, icons, effects)?
[07:38] <aswq630201> saceas mandrake has got no OFFLINE dictionary program
[07:38] <eobanb> gnome-look.org, tyler_165
[07:38] <Seveas> !themes
[07:38] <Artemis3> isnt mandriva?
[07:38] <maffju> why should a dictionary program be distribution-specific?
[07:38] <Seveas> !+themes
[07:38] <ubotu> [themes]  try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from art.gnome.org. Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com. See also !KDEThemes
[07:38] <Seveas> maffju, it is not
[07:38] <aswq630201> i heard ubuntu has inbuilt plz tell me where can i download it
[07:38] <vegos> bootloader?
[07:39] <Seveas> aswq630201, stop.
[07:39] <nubs0r> Why does it say this? : MySQL Database  	Not Available
[07:39] <eobanb> yes, do you use grub, yaboot, lilo...?
[07:39] <nubs0r> but mysqld is running?
[07:39] <nubs0r> 3306/tcp  open  mysql
[07:39] <vegos> oh, grub
[07:39] <Artemis3> you could go to rpmfind i think...
[07:39] <Seveas> nubs0r, you need to create a user in the database and add that info to your php scripts probably...
[07:39] <tyler_165> on normal installation files (tar.gz) do I just uncompress wherever and put it wherever? How does that work? Sorry.. new to ubuntu
[07:39] <swistak> !firefox
[07:39] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, swistak
[07:39] <aswq630201> why r u being so rude...i searched like hell mandriva has no dictionary program which i can use without net
[07:39] <tibu_> HappyFool, it work ! i have the 7.0 :P
[07:39] <swistak> hmmmm
[07:39] <tibu_> thanks x)
[07:39] <nubs0r> Seveas, i have a user, root.
[07:40] <Seveas> tyler_165, better look for a .deb file
[07:40] <brent> what package has gl.h ?
[07:40] <eobanb> vegos, when you're booting you need to get to the grub menu, it's some key you press, i dont remember what it is...then you choose recovery mode from there
[07:40] <swistak> anyone have any idea how to install firefox 1.5 ?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> tyler_165,  nope. wrong :P   normally a tar.gz needs to be compiled and stuff.
[07:40] <Seveas> brent, libgl1-mesa-dev
[07:40] <vegos> ok
[07:40] <eobanb> swistak, it's in the repository
[07:40] <dooglus> swistak: download it from the firefox website
[07:40] <Seveas> swistak, yes: wait a few days for the Ubuntu developers to do it
[07:40] <tyler_165> Dr_Willis, thanks, I had no idea.
[07:40] <vegos> and what command do i enter to edit
[07:40] <davconvent> the following package is not listed in my breezy default install, what did I miss ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/ddclient
[07:40] <vegos> gedit?
[07:40] <eobanb> (isnt it in the repository?)
[07:40] <tyler_165> Seveas, what does a .deb file do exactly?
[07:40] <brent> Seveas: it only has glx.h
[07:40] <Seveas> !info ddclient
[07:40] <ubotu> ddclient: (Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.6.2-3ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 244 kB
[07:40] <Seveas> !find gl.h
[07:40] <nubs0r> Seveas, how can i get sugarcrm to work here, its not picking up my mysql server but i know its runnign
[07:40] <nubs0r> !mysql
[07:40] <ubotu> I heard lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:40] <tyler_165> Dr_Willis, what's the usual way to compile software for installation?
[07:41] <Seveas> davconvent, enable universe
[07:41] <aswq630201> i beg any offline dictionary program for Mandriva ?
[07:41] <eobanb> compiling is not the usual way to install software.
[07:41] <peadot> i installed gnome-art, but where do i find it?
[07:41] <Seveas>  (/usr/include/GL/gl.h) in libdevel/libgl1-mesa-dev <-- brent
[07:41] <peadot> sry, noob question
[07:41] <_jason> aswq630201, you could try ubuntu :)
[07:41] <Seveas> search better
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> tyler_165,  the 'compile and install, 4 step , is documented all over the place. about every install doc has the same few steps mentioned.
[07:41] <tyler_165> Dr_Willis, thanks.
[07:41] <Seveas> peadot, dpkg -L gnome-art
[07:41] <dooglus> tyler_165: a .deb file is just an 'ar' archive, containing two compressed tar archives.  they don't DO anything.  you install them, generally
[07:42] <aswq630201> i have ubuntu live cd can the dictionary program found in its repository?
[07:42] <serioussam> hello
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> tyler_165,  but for installing stuff - you will be MUCH better off  using synaptic
[07:42] <vegos> and what command do i enter to edit (gedit?)
[07:42] <peadot> seveas: thx
[07:42] <Seveas> aswq630201, stop it and go to a mandrake channel.
[07:42] <tyler_165> Dr_Willis, okay, great, thanks for your help.
[07:42] <Seveas> you are being ridiculous
[07:42] <tyler_165> Seveas, "sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[07:42] <tyler_165> " gave me a: "E: Couldn't find package" ?
[07:42] <davconvent> Seveas: thx
[07:43] <Seveas> !info gnome-art
[07:43] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[07:43] <Seveas> tyler_165, enable universe
[07:43] <thomas_> just a question: is /dev/dsp the standard sound device in ubuntu???
[07:43] <Seveas> thomas_, yes
[07:43] <tyler_165> Seveas, how?
[07:43] <serioussam> german kubuntu fans are there ?
[07:43] <Seveas> !tell tyler_165 about universe
[07:43] <PokerFacePenguin> !info ntp
[07:43] <ubotu> ntp: (Network Time Protocol: network utilities), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 249 kB, Installed size: 464 kB
[07:43] <serioussam> i need help, pls
[07:43] <Seveas> serioussam, #kubuntu or #kubuntu-de perhaps
[07:44] <Seveas> or #ubuntu-de
[07:44] <serioussam> thx
[07:44] <thomas_> Seveas, i have an application that tries to record from there, but it doesnt work, but the microphone works in other applications
[07:44] <dholbach> Seveas: you're incredible :)
[07:44] <Seveas> dholbach, ?
[07:44] <vegos> how do i edit the /etc/hosts
[07:44] <yhcheong> need guide to install drivers for canon pixma ip1000 printer
[07:44] <PokerFacePenguin> looking for information on how to change my default time from UTC to GMT.   NTP syncs keep changing my bios time
[07:44] <Seveas> vegos, sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[07:44] <snorks> does anyone know why setting nicks in GAIM isn't changing the nick?
[07:44] <thomas_> vegos, sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[07:44] <RockyBurt> am i gonnna have to upgrade to the new development version of ubuntu in order to get firefox 1.5 ?
[07:44] <dholbach> vegos: system -> adminstration -> network
[07:44] <aswq630201> SHIT u people are so proud of ur distribution that u r not willing to help others.why those who dont use Ubuntu are ur enemies? i came here just because ubuntu has a in-built OFFLINE dictinary program.but its too hard to get help from SNOBS like u.   have u forgot 'humanity to others'???
[07:45] <Seveas> RockyBurt, maybe
[07:45] <vegos> is that how its done in recoverymode
[07:45] <dooglus> RockyBurt: no.  you can install mozilla.org's deb file in breezy.  i did.
[07:45] <aswq630201> SHIT u people are so proud of ur distribution that u r not willing to help others.why those who dont use Ubuntu are ur enemies? i came here just because ubuntu has a in-built OFFLINE dictinary program.but its too hard to get help from SNOBS like u.   have u forgot 'humanity to others'???
[07:45] <dholbach> RockyBurt: i think so
[07:45] <snorks> stfu that\s not the right way to do it
[07:45] <Patrick`> can I crosspost a question from #kubuntu, noone responded?
[07:45] <Amaranth> dooglus: And all the apps that use firefox didn't break?
[07:45] <yhcheong> need guide to install drivers for canon pixma ip1000 printer
[07:45] <dooglus> RockyBurt: or is it a tar archuive?  i forget
[07:45] <Seveas> !tell snorks about coc
[07:45] <dooglus> Amaranth: that's right.  I had to point them at my new install using an environment variable.
[07:46] <nubs0r> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[07:46] <nubs0r> error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'
[07:46] <dooglus> Amaranth: "export BROWSER=/home/chris/programs/firefox/firefox" in ~/.gnomerc
[07:46] <RockyBurt> is the development version of ubuntu in good enough shape atm or is currently very unstable?
[07:46] <Seveas> nubs0r, read the mysql manual and the manual of that phpscript of yours
[07:46] <Amaranth> dooglus: You're telling me epiphany from breezy works with firefox 1.5?
[07:46] <thomas_> can you help me Seveas?
[07:46] <Seveas> RockyBurt, VERY unstable
[07:46] <nubs0r> Seveas, the mysql manual is huge.
[07:46] <dooglus> RockyBurt: even if it's OK now, it'll break next week, or next month...  best not to use it yet.
[07:46] <Patrick`> changing kubuntu to use xfce4 as the window manager - I tried just apt-get installing xfce4, removing kdm, chicken voodoo
[07:46] <Patrick`> it's not letting go
[07:46] <dooglus> Amaranth: no, I don't use epiphany
[07:46] <Secreth`X> can someone help me with samba? ;p I got it running but on windows it keeps asking for a password and I dont want that
[07:47] <Seveas> Patrick`, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <Patrick`> shiny
[07:47] <Patrick`> ta
[07:47] <Seveas> Secreth`X, security=share in smb.conf, read the manpage for smb.conf for more detail
[07:47] <Patrick`> woot, lots and lots of dependancies
[07:47] <Secreth`X> Seveas, k, wheere is smb.conf located?
[07:47] <Seveas> thomas_, sorry, alsa (audio) is not my piece of cake
[07:47] <tyler_165> Seveas, when enabling Universe, do I want to enable the Source AND Binary boxes?
[07:48] <thomas_> ok
[07:48] <dholbach> tyler_165: binary should suffice
[07:48] <Seveas> tyler_165, source is only needed if you want to recompile applications that are already there
[07:48] <tyler_165> Seveas, thanks.  What about multiverse
[07:48] <Seveas> same
[07:49] <ashley_> hello
[07:49] <mirak> hi
[07:49] <ashley_> can you help me with my sound card?
[07:49] <ashley_> i get no sound
[07:49] <mirak> I can't install eclipse-sdk on breezy, anyone have that problem ?
[07:49] <ashley_> its all turned up
[07:49] <ashley_> but no joy
[07:49] <francares> hi!
[07:49] <francares> how can i install gnome 2.13???
[07:49] <ashley_> oh
[07:49] <Amaranth> francares: use dapper
[07:49] <ashley_> everyone else wants toask
[07:50] <ashley_> not help
[07:50] <Seveas> ashley_, put the output of amixer on the pastebin
[07:50] <Amaranth> francares: it's likely to break your install but that's what you get when you use prerelease software
[07:50] <Seveas> Amaranth, but you'll have the shiny new alacarte :)
[07:50] <ashley_> umm
[07:50] <ashley_> how do i do that
[07:50] <ashley_> (im a linux noob :( )
[07:51] <Patrick`> Seveas: ta
[07:51] <Patrick`> oh, I said that
[07:51] <francares> ah oks
[07:51] <Seveas> ashley_, type the command in a terminal, surf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and put the output there
[07:51] <ashley_> ok, what comand?
[07:51] <kane_> btw, those that were paying attention to my mounting freebsd drives on ubuntu problem, here's the solution: mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hde1 /mnt
[07:51] <funkyHat> ashley_, amixer
[07:51] <bonee> where is the font dir
[07:51] <ashley_> ok
[07:51] <kane_> the -o ufstype=44bsd is mandatory, ubuntu says it guesses correct, but doesn't
[07:52] <Secreth`X> Seveas, got it working.. thanks!
[07:52] <Seveas> kane_, thanks for the info
[07:52] <funkyHat> bonee, /usr/share/fonts
[07:52] <Amaranth> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1654 <--something to read for those worried about performance
[07:52] <tyler_165> question: So is the GUI in ubuntu identical to many other distro's, and its what you don't see thats different?
[07:52] <Seveas> bonee, and ~/.fonts
[07:52] <kane_> Seveas: is there a community place to save this for posterity?
[07:52] <ashley_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5239
[07:53] <mirak> Seveas: hi, could you try to aptitude install eclipse-sdk per see ?
[07:53] <mirak> plz
[07:53] <Seveas> !bsdfs is <reply> Problems mounting BSD filesystems? Here's a tip: here's the solution: mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hde1 /mnt
[07:53] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[07:53] <Seveas> mirak, try apt-get
[07:53] <kane_> seveas++ # ta
[07:53] <Seveas> aptitude insists on installing all recommended packages
[07:53] <mirak> eclipse-sdk: Dpend: eclipse-jdt (= 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) mais ne sera pas install
[07:53] <mirak>                Dpend: eclipse-pde (= 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) mais ne sera pas install
[07:53] <ashley_> Seveas: the link is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5239
[07:54] <mirak> Seveas: no succes
[07:54] <Seveas> mirak, are you using backports oslt?
[07:54] <francares> Amaranth, and the Mozilla Firefox 1.5, how can i obtain the package????
[07:54] <Amaranth> francares: it's in dapper
[07:54] <francares> oh... jejeje
[07:55] <mirak> Seveas: no
[07:55] <bonee> what is "ioctl dif1: invalid argument"
[07:55] <Seveas> mirak, it wants to install here, so it's something with your system
[07:55] <nubs0r> SugarCRM stil giving me errors Seveas , i can type in mysql -uroot -p and type my password and it connects me fine.
[07:55] <nubs0r> i know it srunning, i dont know why it isnt being picked up] 
[07:56] <mirak> Seveas: it's weird, look that : libswt3.1-gtk-java: Dpend: mozilla-browser (>= 2:1.7.0) mais ne sera pas install
[07:56] <Seveas> nubs0r, according to the error you gave before your script is not using a password
[07:56] <ashley_> :)
[07:56] <Seveas> mirak, sources.list on the pastebin please
[07:56] <mirak> Seveas: in fact I can't install mozilla browser, I have noticed that the other day
[07:56] <nubs0r> mirak, c'est peut etre une bonne idee de joine ubuntu-fr
[07:56] <Seveas> m-b wants to install here
[07:56] <mirak> nubs0r: nah, my english is very good
[07:57] <mirak> nubs0r: :)
[07:57] <nubs0r> heh okay :)
[07:57] <gsuveg> re
[07:57] <Seveas> and my french is good enough to grasp the error messages ;)
[07:57] <yhcheong> Install alien with synaptic
[07:57] <francares> and the drapper is very unstable now?
[07:57] <yhcheong> Install libxml1 with synaptic (required later on to run canon's bjcups application)
[07:57] <swistak> grrrr
[07:57] <yhcheong> what is the comman to install this?
[07:57] <swistak> i removed firefox
[07:57] <swistak> and now i can't install damn thing back
[07:58] <eobanb> sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:58] <francares> Amaranth, and the drapper is very unstable now?
[07:58] <eobanb> or is it mozilla-firefox
[07:58] <eobanb> i dont remember..
[07:58] <swistak> and 1.5 which i downloaded earlier says something about missing lib all the time :/
[07:58] <Seveas> francares, yes
[07:58] <Amaranth> francares: kind of
[07:58] <gsuveg> i have wireless ms mouse, it support battery state under official driver (win), anyone have idea how can i get this info under linux ?
[07:58] <Seveas> swistak, remove all remains of firefox 1.5
[07:58] <eobanb> it has a usb dongle?
[07:58] <Seveas> and retry installing the one from breezy
[07:58] <mirak> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5240
[07:58] <gsuveg> eobanb: yes.
[07:58] <swistak> eobanb:  problem is that it asks for cdrom which i don't have
[07:59] <Seveas> ah, all kinds of plf crap
[07:59] <Seveas> disable that, apt-get update, retry
[07:59] <swistak> Seveas: i did, only problem is that i removed all remains of 1.05 also :] 
[08:00] <Seveas> swistak, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <ashley_> anybody?
[08:00] <gsuveg> ashley_: hmm?
[08:00] <Seveas> ashley_, all your volume contols are at 0
[08:00] <Seveas> no wonder you get no sound :)
[08:00] <pinkisntwell> i'm still getting slow video in ubuntu
[08:00] <Seveas> ashley_, applications -> sound & video -> volume control
[08:00] <gsuveg> eobanb: hmm ?
[08:00] <swistak> Seveas:  same thing, it keeps asking for cd
[08:00] <francares> and if i install .deb from drapper, i break the install?
[08:00] <Seveas> pinkisntwell, from video CD/DVD or from harddrive?
[08:01] <mirak> Seveas: no succes
[08:01] <swistak> is there any way to make it look for another source instead of cd ?
[08:01] <eobanb> i dont know, gsuveg.
[08:01] <mirak> Seveas: mozilla-browser: Dpend: libnspr4 (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) mais 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 devra tre install
[08:01] <pinkisntwell> all
[08:01] <Seveas> swistak, remove the cd line from your sources
[08:01] <gsuveg> eobanb: :(
[08:01] <pinkisntwell> i'm currently running ubuntu from hd of course
[08:01] <meheren> can someone recomend a good c++ programing software for ubuntu?
[08:01] <gsuveg> eobanb: its a ms notebook wireless opt. mouse
[08:01] <meheren> like dev-c++
[08:01] <swistak> Seveas: remove ... how? sorry i don't have browser to check howtoos :/
[08:01] <B_166-ER-X> why does the 'Help' function  just doesnt show anything ? in breezy
[08:02] <francares> Amaranth, and if i install .deb from drapper, i break the install?
[08:02] <funkyHat> Seveas, it's possible that ashley_ needs to switch the volume control to the alsa card instead of the oss emulator one?
[08:02] <Amaranth> francares: more than likely, yes
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> (system tab)
[08:02] <Seveas> swistak, are you running hoary or breezy?
[08:02] <Cyberdata> hi
[08:02] <swistak> breezy
[08:02] <mpmc> How do I get My scanner working Tried sane :(
[08:02] <francares> ok
[08:02] <Seveas> funkyHat, 2539 on the pastebin, all controls are at 0% :)
[08:02] <adrianoc> there somebody, has a repository of the so that i can install it ?
[08:02] <swistak> Seveas: but wait i'll check :D
[08:02] <eobanb> gsuveg, i think you're out of luck about checking the battery.
[08:02] <mirak> Seveas: should I use a different repository or something ?
[08:03] <Seveas> swistak, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <gsuveg> eobanb: yes. i think so :(
[08:03] <Seveas> swistak, and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:03] <Cyberdata> since ubuntu uses sudo alot and you dont have to type in a password there i wanted to know if that is really secure
[08:03] <swistak> Seveas: great, thnx ^^
[08:03] <mpmc> Anyone have ideas how I can get my all in one printer scanning?
[08:03] <meheren> is there a good C++ program for ubuntu?
[08:03] <djm62> meheren: kde ?
[08:03] <Seveas> meheren, g++
[08:03] <gsuveg> eobanb: you know it sux if you go with notebook and and battery go out
[08:03] <meheren> ok thx
[08:04] <gnomefreak> meheren, writen in c++ or to write in c++
[08:04] <gsuveg> meheren: gcc
[08:04] <meheren> both
[08:04] <saik0> meheren, what are you looking for?? an IDE, a compiler?
[08:04] <ashley_> Seveas: Just found that my audio control was set to the wrong device! THANKS DUDE!
[08:04] <gsuveg> meheren: ide or compiler
[08:04] <adrianoc> there somebody, has a repository of the DBDesigner so that i can install it ?
[08:04] <djm62> Cyberdata: sudo is smart.  you don't have to type in a password if you've just typed one
[08:04] <meheren> somehting to write c++ in and then use that prgram
[08:04] <Seveas> ashley_, hmm, didn't show from the output but ok :)
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> i want some help here... icannot find anything about it on the web : when i click on 'help' in the 'system' tab menu,  the 'help summary' gos up... but nothing else shows..
[08:04] <graba> i have questions .. how install soundcard NeoMagic MagicMedia 256 AV .. because my ubuntu don't see her
[08:04] <Seveas> meheren, vim
[08:04] <djm62> Cyberdata: but if you leave the keyboard, it locks again
[08:04] <meheren> vim?
[08:04] <meheren> ok
[08:04] <gnomefreak> kdevelop or anjuta would be good beginning IDEs and build-essential should have the g++ compiler in it
[08:05] <ashley_> I can now hear my CD playing, loud and clear :)
[08:05] <meheren> just apt-get install vim?
[08:05] <eobanb> does anyone know the specific things i need in my xorg.conf to get hardware 3D working with my nvidia TNT2? i installed nvidia-glx as per the ubuntu faq but only 2D is working...openGL does not work at all....glxgears complains that module 'glx' is not loaded.
[08:05] <Seveas> ashley_, great, which one? :)
[08:05] <ashley_> It needed to be set to oss rather than the A one
[08:05] <ashley_> Queen
[08:05] <Secreth`X> Does ubuntu automatically recognize USB things? like a MP3 player?
[08:05] <funkyHat> aww, poor little visual programmers :P
[08:05] <Simpleguy> Good day. I installed ubuntu a few days ago and was wondering which tool I can use to switch network profiles on my laptop. network-admin does not seem to be working
[08:05] <Seveas> eobanb, nvidia-glx-enable
[08:05] <eobanb> i did that, seveas
[08:05] <Seveas> (it's a command)
[08:05] <slew> ashley_, you mean alsa
[08:05] <Cyberdata> djm: but if every users can launch root commandy with sudo. i virus for examble could do the same and so have full root rights
[08:05] <mpmc> Secreth`X: yes most things
[08:05] <ashley_> That's the one
[08:05] <eobanb> Secreth`X, if it's a usb mass storage device it should be automounted
[08:05] <nubs0r> Still cant figure this out
[08:05] <slew> =] 
[08:05] <nubs0r> i dont thinkmysql is accesible from apache
[08:06] <Secreth`X> eobanb, mpmc, a webcam too?
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[08:06] <natdigga2> eobanb: I been trying to figure out the same thing for my ATI Rage Card.
[08:06] <funkyHat> Secreth`X, yes pretty much all usb devices. definitely an mp3 player
[08:06] <pinkisntwell> no help with my slow video?
[08:06] <eobanb> depends on the webcam, Secreth`X
[08:06] <funkyHat> Secreth`X, depends on the cam
[08:06] <nubs0r> i have libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[08:06] <nubs0r> What else do i need?
[08:06] <djm62> Cyberdata: only if the virus knew your password
[08:06] <funkyHat> lol sorry eobanb :P
[08:06] <Secreth`X> Well its a logitech thing (dont know the version number atm)
[08:06] <mirak> Seveas: don't know what is the problem
[08:06] <sagarp> i did apt-get install kubuntu, and now KDE has taken over all my gnome themes!!
[08:07] <eobanb> Secreth`X, sudo apt-get install xawtv, plug in the camera, and then run xawtv and see if it works.
[08:07] <Secreth`X> ok
[08:07] <djm62> Cyberdata: you do need to authenticate, and not every user can use sudo
[08:07] <nubs0r> Can anyone hlep me get sugarcrm running
[08:07] <Seveas> mirak, did you revert your sources.list to a standard one?
[08:07] <nubs0r> anyone have experience with it or?
[08:07] <tyler_165> question: so apt-get is just a way to download software from the ubuntu servers?
[08:07] <djm62> Cyberdata: any program you run that wants root access needs to run sudo for you, and you need to enter your password
[08:07] <eobanb> yes.
[08:07] <Seveas> mirak and what happens if you first remove the libnspr package?
[08:07] <slew> tyler_165, yes
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> Its kind of a simple question, but how to i make 'help' from the System tab menu appear ? i jsut have the help summary
[08:07] <eobanb> apt is a package management system, and it's what you want to use for installing virtually all your software.
[08:08] <meheren> well o have it set up so that every usr can use sudo but it promts the root pass when entering sudo
[08:08] <nubs0r> or you can compile lol
[08:08] <Seveas> meheren, no
[08:08] <mirak> Seveas: he wants to remove openoffice2
[08:08] <nubs0r> meheren, it doesnt prompt the root pass, it prompt your pass lol
[08:08] <tyler_165> how can i put a trash can icon on the desktop?
[08:08] <Seveas> sudo wants YOUR password
[08:08] <Seveas> mirak, hmm
[08:08] <meheren> no
[08:08] <Secreth`X> eobanb, it gives several times the error /dev/video0: No such device
[08:08] <nubs0r> exactly Seveas
[08:08] <meheren> the root pass
[08:08] <Seveas> tyler_165, in gconf_editor
[08:08] <Seveas> tyler_165, apps\nautilus\desktop\
[08:08] <gnomefreak> your user password
[08:08] <meheren> my pass is say...x and the root pass is y
[08:08] <Simpleguy> anyone with an idea about my network profile problem?
[08:08] <meheren> i put in y it works
[08:08] <nubs0r> meheren, negative.
[08:09] <eobanb> Secreth`X, what model of camera
[08:09] <meheren> i put in x it doesn't
[08:09] <nubs0r> meheren, the password you set for your main user is = to the user pass
[08:09] <Seveas> meheren, then your /etc/sudoers is not the default Ubuntu one
[08:09] <Secreth`X> eobanb, Just a minute, let me find out..
[08:09] <nubs0r> meheren, maybe you did sudo bash && passwd?
[08:09] <meheren> i no!
[08:09] <teprrr> anyone happen to know if I can skip postinst scripts on install somehow?
[08:09] <Seveas> meheren, then why complain...
[08:09] <meheren> i do sudo apt-get install x
[08:09] <peadot> what is gtk+ engines and how does it improve sth. on my computer?
[08:09] <meheren> it says password:
[08:09] <Seveas> teprrr, you don't want to - really
[08:09] <meheren> my pass is diferent then root
[08:09] <nubs0r> thats messed..
[08:09] <meheren> i put in root it works
[08:09] <mirak> Seveas: I remove open office
[08:09] <meheren> i put in mine it doesn't
[08:10] <eobanb> peadot 'sth.'?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> meheren, who ever installed ubuntu has the password for sudo
[08:10] <nubs0r> check your /etc/sudoers, soethigns wrong lol
[08:10] <peadot> something.. sorry
[08:10] <Seveas> !info libnspr4
[08:10] <ubotu> libnspr4: (Netscape Portable Runtime Library), section libs, is optional. Version: 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[08:10] <nubs0r> gnomefreak, it doesnt appear that way on his system lol
[08:10] <funkyHat> meheren, did you do the expert install?
[08:10] <Seveas> mirak, you have a newer-than-breezy version of that library
[08:10] <meheren> gnome freak ubuntu was dually installed with anether com at the same time
[08:10] <Seveas> that's VERY unsupported and can cause such things
[08:10] <gnomefreak> nubs0r, lol
[08:10] <Cyberdata> djm62: is it possible to deactivate sudo
[08:10] <meheren> with head acocunt being versaily
[08:11] <mirak> Seveas: ok maybe it comes from dapper
[08:11] <meheren> not meheren
[08:11] <Seveas> mirak, did you install OO.o2 from backports or doko perhaps?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> meheren, did you install ubuntu?
[08:11] <meheren> yes
[08:11] <mirak> Seveas: I don't remember
[08:11] <tyler_165> Seveas, this may sound noob, but I can't find apps/nautils?
[08:11] <djm62> Cyberdata: yes, empty the sudoers file in /etc
[08:11] <meheren> well me as in person
[08:11] <teprrr> Seveas, well, update-menus.real sigsegvs here and I can't install anything properly...
[08:11] <gnomefreak> meheren, remember the password you typed in while installing it?
[08:11] <Seveas> tyler_165, in gconf-editor
[08:11] <Seveas> on the left side
[08:11] <meheren> yes
[08:11] <gnomefreak> meheren, thats the sudo password
[08:11] <Secreth`X> eobanb, Logitech QuickCam Messenger
[08:11] <dotheuganda> hello
[08:11] <meheren> supposed to b
[08:11] <meheren> not
[08:12] <tyler_165> Seveas, wheres gconfg-editor? Lol
[08:12] <djm62> Cyberdata: make sure to set up a root passwd for automated attacks to find first: really sudo isn't a security problem, compared to sudo or having root login-able as
[08:12] <Seveas> meheren, put your /etc/sudoers on the pastebin
[08:12] <natdigga2> everytime I go back to my Windozexp partition to let my wife do something and I log back into Ubuntu I have to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get my screen resolution better than 640x480.  Is there somewhere I can have it as default?
[08:12] <Seveas> tyler_165, applications -> system tools -> configuration editor
[08:12] <slew> tyler_165, try apps/accessories/file browser
[08:12] <dotheuganda> hi can someone help me out with somethin?
[08:12] <eobanb> Secreth`X, i'm pretty sure that linux support for that model is minimal
[08:12] <meheren> i installed vim how do i use it
[08:12] <meheren> (start it up)
[08:13] <meheren> just vim?
[08:13] <Secreth`X> eobanb, with other words.. that means I can't use this cam on ubuntu?
[08:13] <Seveas> meheren, in the terminal you run this command: vimtutor
[08:13] <meheren> ok
[08:13] <meheren> thx
[08:13] <funkyHat> meheren, launch vim, or gvim
[08:13] <Seveas> you need that 30 minutes of training in order to not go in screaming desperation
[08:13] <eobanb> Secreth`X, you can try this driver
[08:13] <eobanb> http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~tuukkat/quickcam/quickcam.html
[08:13] <funkyHat> oh ok, do that instead :P
[08:13] <tyler_165> Seveas, thanks guys
[08:13] <eobanb> but i dont know how much luck you'll have with it.
[08:13] <Secreth`X> eobanb, I will try
[08:13] <gnomefreak> well damn vim has a tutorial session :( Emacs dont :(
[08:13] <dotheuganda> hi im trying to install jedit but i cant
[08:14] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no tutorial could be large enough for that...
[08:14] <djm62> gnomefreak: emacs does have a tutorial thing...quite a nice one
[08:14] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas  good point
[08:15] <djm62> gnomefreak: C-h t
[08:15] <gnomefreak> djm62,  where ive been looking for a month for it and still havent found it they have sites that arnt much help  when the buffer isnt starting for nothing
[08:15] <tyler_165> Question: What exactly is GTK+ Engine?
[08:15] <teprrr> Seveas, or do you happen to have an idea what's wrong in there in update-menus?
[08:16] <teprrr> I see no newer package out there..
[08:16] <djm62> gnomefreak: if you start emacs (no files) the thing is there
[08:16] <Seveas> teprrr, in where?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ok ty djm62  ill look again ty
[08:16] <Firecracker2k5> Hi guys, just installed Breezy, and I would like to enable multiverse, what lines do I need to to the sources.list?
[08:16] <teprrr> Seveas, update-menus.real, it sigsegvs here
[08:16] <Seveas> !tell Firecracker2k5 about sources
[08:17] <Seveas> teprrr, -ENOCLUE
[08:17] <teprrr> Seveas, :P
[08:17] <dotheuganda> can any one help me out with trying to install Jedit (please i need help)
[08:17] <elio_> hallo
[08:17] <mirak> Seveas: it seems azureus was the problem
[08:17] <Firecracker2k5> Seveas, thanks, also, is it possible to stop apt from upgrading the kernel, now that I have just installed breezy it wants to update it
[08:18] <molsen> On my system i do not have a '/etc/ld.so.conf'! Is it another place or should i create a new one?
[08:18] <humboldto> what is the OO.org2 status for breezy? Is there a backport of the final available already? Is there an offical backports/extras repository available already?
[08:18] <elio_> bye
[08:18] <Seveas> Firecracker2k5, on breezy you will definitely want the breezy kernel
[08:19] <Firecracker2k5> but if I was to disable to upgrade, how would I do that?
[08:19] <mirak> Seveas: I don't know how works aptitude, but when trying to run  sudo aptitude install libswt3.1-gtk-jni it wants to install mozilla-browser O_o
[08:19] <B_166-ER-X> can someone actually read this, i think i might be lagging like 10 minutes..
[08:19] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, pong
[08:20] <funkyHat> lol
[08:20] <B_166-ER-X> nice
[08:20] <dotheuganda> i get this error (cannot execute binary file) when i try installing jedit from a .jar file does anyone know how to solve the problem?
[08:20] <B_166-ER-X> so
[08:20] <B_166-ER-X> Its kind of a simple question, but how to i make 'help' from the System tab menu appear ? i jsut have the help summary
[08:20] <xkahn> how do you see the contents of a .deb file before it's installed?
[08:21] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I wonder if there is any speciall settings that I could change to get my mouse acts better (on many occasions i have to do everything twice, resizing, clicking, etc) thanks
[08:21] <bor> xkahn: dpkg-deb -c
[08:21] <xkahn> Ah.
[08:21] <xkahn> Thanks.
[08:21] <Seveas> hi :)
[08:21] <BooZee> hi. thank you very much
[08:21] <djm62> K_Dallas: System->Preferences->Mouse
[08:21] <dotheuganda> i get this error (cannot execute binary file) when i try installing jedit from a .jar file does anyone know how to solve the problem?
[08:22] <demux> hi, does anyone know if its possible to use windo flipping under gone?
[08:22] <demux> *window flipping under gnome
[08:22] <eobanb> 'window flipping'?
[08:22] <mehere1> compound the program?
[08:22] <atrophic> I clicked network-manager's applet and it froze the computer, after a restart my wireless card no longer shows up in the networking admin. What'd it do?
[08:22] <demux> move to the edge or top of the desktop and it moves to the next virtual desktop
[08:22] <SatanGolga> anyone got Netgear MA521 working?
[08:22] <K_Dallas> djm62, should i adjust the sensivity or the treshold?
[08:22] <drakul555> jest tu ktos z polski
[08:23] <xkahn> demux: brightside
[08:23] <djm62> K_Dallas: it's hard to tell what is wrong with your mouse over a textual medium.  See what makes it feel better
[08:23] <mehere1> under vim how do i execute the proram?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> !po
[08:23] <Xenomorph> hi all :)
[08:23] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:23] <mehere1> *program
[08:23] <K_Dallas> djm62, ok, playing with those ;) thanks
[08:24] <demux> xkahn: thanks
[08:24] <BooZee> ipv6 - is setting ipv6 in ubuntu suppose to be diffrent from other distros? cuz I've in #ipv6 for the past week, and every night I've tried every way that could be possible, and nothing helped
[08:24] <dotheuganda> i get this error (cannot execute binary file) when i try installing jedit from a .jar file does anyone know how to solve the problem?
[08:24] <slashx1896> Heyyy
[08:24] <nfell> how to install tetris for terminal?
[08:24] <slashx1896> what program do i use for my webcam
[08:24] <djm62> nfell: netris is good
[08:25] <K_Dallas> djm62, seems setting sensivity at max is more like what i need. thanks a lot
[08:25] <Xenomorph> hi all, quick question, is it possible to install ubuntu via the internet?
[08:25] <mirak> what do you mean ?
[08:26] <slashx1896> Xenomorph: hmm not sure, someone here probbaly knoes
[08:26] <K_Dallas> Xenomorph, you mean to netinstall like in debian?
[08:26] <Seveas> Xenomorph, what would you boot from?
[08:26] <Xenomorph> euhm, yeah, but without a dhcp server
[08:26] <mehere1> how do i compile something with vim?
[08:26] <Seveas> mehere1, :!gcc -c foo.c -o foo
[08:26] <slashx1896> anyone? what program do i use for my webcam? or can i install the program on the cd on ubuntu
[08:27] <mehere1> how do i do it under cream?
[08:27] <mehere1> cream is x vim
[08:27] <thrice`> mehere1: that's from a terminal
[08:27] <thrice`> assuming it's c
[08:27] <PokerFacePenguin> slashx1896: tried gnomemeeting yet?
[08:27] <mehere1> any1 no how to compile something under cream?
[08:27] <slashx1896> nope, i l try it
[08:27] <PokerFacePenguin> slashx1896: might have to load the proper module for your cam before it works
[08:28] <Secreth`X> whats the latest kernel?
[08:28] <thrice`> 2.6.14.3
[08:28] <Secreth`X> thx
[08:28] <Seveas> !info linux-image-386
[08:28] <slashx1896> How do i access gnome meeting?
[08:28] <dotheuganda> i get this error (cannot execute binary file) when i try installing jedit from a .jar file does anyone know how to solve the problem?
[08:28] <ubotu> linux-image-386: (Linux kernel image on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:28] <Seveas> !info linux-image-386 dapper
[08:29] <ubotu> linux-image-386: (Linux kernel image on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:29] <slashx1896> Pokerfacepenguin: where is it? synaptic says its already installed
[08:29] <dotheuganda> why is my question the only one being left un answered?
[08:29] <mirak> Seveas: do you know if apt-build is still broken ?
[08:29] <djm62> dotheuganda: how are you trying to install it: what command?
[08:29] <Seveas> dotheuganda, because you asked it 3 seconds ago?
[08:29] <trappist> dotheuganda: java -jar filename.jar
[08:30] <slashx1896> Pokerfacepenguin: and its not under Applications - Video/audio
[08:30] <dotheuganda> this is the command i put in
[08:30] <dotheuganda> /home/nick/jedit42install.jar -jar jedit42install.jar
[08:30] <dotheuganda> and the error i get
[08:30] <slashx1896> nvm
[08:30] <slashx1896> lol
[08:30] <slashx1896> found it
[08:30] <trappist> yeah that won't work
[08:30] <dotheuganda> error --> bash: /home/nick/jedit42install.jar: cannot execute binary file
[08:30] <djm62> dotheuganda: java -jar jedit42install.jar
[08:30] <djm62> dotheuganda: possibly with sudo in front
[08:30] <trappist> oh this is jedit, where it says on the website how to install it
[08:31] <Xenomorph> anyway been able todo an internet install with ubuntu?
[08:31] <mehere1> so on this cream how do i compile something?
[08:31] <BooZee> anybody here can help with ipv6 in ubuntu? the help i'm getting in #ipv6 is not working
[08:31] <mehere1> under cream how do i compile something?
[08:31] <slashx1896> No Video device found
[08:32] <mpmc> Anyone here on NTL with 10mb yet?
[08:32] <Seveas> mehere1: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:32] <slashx1896> How do i mount my usb drive that i have mywebcam plugged in?
[08:32] <stevenj> Can someone please help me with this? I have posted my errors --->  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XEmRgn44.html
[08:32] <dotheuganda> djm62 thank you so much!
[08:33] <mpmc> Is there a driver for my unbraded webcam?
[08:33] <trappist> dotheuganda: what about me?
[08:33] <dotheuganda> oops sorry trappist you origanally put up the code -- thank you even more! :)
[08:33] <slashx1896> Hello?
[08:33] <slashx1896> Can someone help me wiht my webcam
[08:34] <slashx1896> With**
[08:34] <mehere1> is anyone here using cream?
[08:35] <djm62> now to repeat my question (from last night).  How can I get my USB mp3 player recognised under breezy.  it worked as usb-mass-storage on hoary, and I now have to mount it manually.  I compiled the dapper version of pmount (which I heard was something to do with it), and the error has changed (which is progress)
[08:35] <trappist> slashx1896: sudo mount /dev/sdX1 /mnt/point where sdX is the device near the end of the output of dmesg and /mnt/point is where you want to mount it
[08:35] <djm62> d'oh, back in 20min
[08:35] <Seveas> djm62, would you mind giving the error
[08:35] <Secreth`X> Err.. can someone tell me what this error means: awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file `/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include/linux/version.h' for reading (No such file or directory)
[08:35] <stevenj> does anyone have strange errors in their .xsession-errors?
[08:35] <djm62> Seveas: family calling, but I will
[08:36] <trappist> Secreth`X: if you try you can tell what it means
[08:36] <Secreth`X> trappist, I'm trying to install a driver for a quickcam. I typed make and then it gived me that error
[08:36] <fredforfaen> i use openbox , how can i get a script i made executed when i start fluxbox/openbox...?
[08:37] <wezzer> name a good mp3 tag editor for ubuntu?
[08:37] <trappist> slashx1896: keep it here please
[08:37] <parker> #ubuntu-es
[08:37] <slashx1896> kk
[08:37] <fredforfaen> !xsession
[08:37] <ubotu> I don't know, fredforfaen
[08:37] <slashx1896> trappist: so what do i do?
[08:37] <fredforfaen> !.xsession
[08:37] <ubotu> Wish i knew, fredforfaen
[08:37] <trappist> slashx1896: I told you
[08:37] <fredforfaen> !openbox
[08:37] <ubotu> fredforfaen: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:37] <fredforfaen> damn
[08:38] <ruairi> there's a mp3 tag editor listed on the Restricted formats page on the help files.
[08:38] <B_166-ER-X> why does my Yelp doesnt work right ? it doesnt show anything besides 'help summary'
[08:39] <Secreth`X> trappist, It cant read the file it want to read? Thats the only thing I know.. But how do I fix it then? I cant find the source of the kernel 2.6.12-10 anywhere
[08:40] <ruairi> anyone here able to help me with DVD playback?
[08:40] <ruairi> I've got it working, but the video is full of errors.
[08:40] <blue-frog> ruairi, wiki.ubuntu.com > starter guide
[08:40] <Jabo> guy came into my shop today telling my partner and I about Ubuntu linux
[08:40] <Jabo> i thought he was trying to *sell* us a licence or something
[08:41] <tyler_165> is it possible to change the looks of the top and bottom bars in Gnome?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> Jabo, ubuntu is free of charge and always plans to be
[08:41] <anavim> tyler_165, yes
[08:41] <Jabo> i know
[08:41] <anavim> tyler_165, gnome-look.org
[08:41] <Jabo> was strange though
[08:41] <Jabo> guy had a box of ubuntu cd's
[08:41] <tyler_165> anavim, i got gnome-art, is it possible through that?
[08:41] <ruairi> I've been through the starter guides, and installed the codecs. I do get sound and video now on Kaffine and Totem. But the distorts on movement
[08:41] <Jabo> told us a bit about linux that we already knew, bullshitted a bit then gave us 2 copies
[08:42] <anavim> tyler_165, no... if you don't like the themes that are there, you have to download new ones
[08:42] <Jabo> and went away
[08:42] <Jabo> it was like he worked for a linux charity or something
[08:42] <Jabo> but didn't want any money
[08:42] <Geofox> Hi everyone, i can't find how to install ubuntu on an external drive (i've an Apple iBook). Could you help me ?
[08:42] <anavim> tyler_165, system->preferences->themes
[08:42] <tyler_165> anavim, thanks
[08:42] <gnomefreak> tyler_165,  yes i pretty sure you can do it from gnome-art if not go to either that site he gave you or art.gnome.com
[08:42] <trappist> Secreth`X: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[08:43] <ruairi> #whois
[08:43] <ruairi> typo
[08:43] <mpmc> Jabo: maybe it was one of the main Devs :P
[08:44] <Secreth`X> trappist, E: Package linux-source has no installation candidate
[08:44] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to access 'yelp 2.12.1 online ?    mine doesnt work right
[08:44] <Jabo> i'm in glasgow, scotland so...
[08:44] <Jabo> unlikely i'm thinking :/
[08:44] <pawdro> hi, ive just installed dcpp from .deb and after connection with server program closed itself
[08:44] <pawdro> any ideas?
[08:44] <trappist> Secreth`X: there was more than that.  try to read the output of your commands and see what you can figure out on your own.
[08:45] <mpmc> padro Crash?
[08:45] <Volen_siderovX> how to mount NTFS with Cyrillic encoding becouse i have cyrrilic file names ?
[08:45] <slashx1896> trappist: u said put sdx of the device near the ned of dmesg, but when i type dmesg it tells me something about setting key codes
[08:45] <ruairi> blue-frog you still there?
[08:45] <Seveas> Volen_siderovX, -o cp=your_codepage
[08:45] <pawdro> mpmc: i think so
[08:45] <blue-frog> ruairi, yes
[08:45] <Volen_siderovX> thanx Seveas
[08:45] <trappist> slashx1896: remove the usb device, reinsert it, and run dmesg again
[08:45] <Secreth`X> trappist, yes, there was more than that one error.. but they all were the fault of that version.h that it cant find..
[08:46] <trappist> Secreth`X: I was referring to the output of apt-get
[08:46] <Secreth`X> trappist, ahh, I get it..
[08:46] <ruairi> dont know if you're able to offer any more advice?
[08:47] <slashx1896> trappist: same thing happend
[08:47] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas, could you point me the problem...or i dont know see what can i Do ? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MUzcT779.html
[08:47] <blue-frog> ruairi, u're on Kubuntu?
[08:47] <Secreth`X> trappist, yep, it needed linux-source-2.6.12
[08:47] <pawdro> in console its written Core dumped
[08:47] <slashx1896> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known ,
[08:47] <ruairi> no standard Ubuntu
[08:47] <trappist> slashx1896: if dmesg isn't talking about your usb device it may be unsupported.  but it will usually be sda1
[08:47] <ruairi> Breezy
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> i'm totally blank of ideas on this one
[08:48] <trappist> slashx1896: setkeycodes e02a 112 to shut that up
[08:48] <blue-frog> ruairi, what's the pb?
[08:49] <ruairi> sorry, pb?
[08:49] <slashx1896> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[08:49] <blue-frog> ruairi, problem
[08:49] <amarys> Salut
[08:49] <trappist> slashx1896: you'll need to do it in a tty.  it's not important though.
[08:49] <B_166-ER-X> seveas, back.
[08:49] <ruairi> soz. Dvd playback had horozontal lines on any pictures that aren't steady
[08:49] <Lis> hey
[08:50] <slashx1896> huh?
[08:50] <Secreth`X> trappist, got it installed, but it still gives that error when I type 'make'
[08:50] <blue-frog> slashx1896, remove /etc/init.d/hotkeysetup if you are on a desktop. u won't have this error again after a reboot
[08:50] <amarys> Mon lecteur dvd est bloqu.
[08:50] <slashx1896> ok
[08:50] <amarys> Je fais comment pour le dbloquer ?
[08:50] <B_166-ER-X> if someone can help me on this one... http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MUzcT779.html
[08:50] <hav0k> has anyone updated their firefox yet?
[08:50] <B_166-ER-X> amarys #ubuntu-fr pour un canal en francais
[08:50] <amarys> ok
[08:51] <gnomefreak> hav0k, its still not in stable form yet
[08:51] <blue-frog> ruairi, u followed the guide by the book? encryption library and such..
[08:51] <slashx1896> blue-frog, how do i remove it? sorry im new with linux
[08:51] <ruairi> yep
[08:51] <Telep> hav0k, I have, following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:51] <hav0k> gnomefreak, are you sure, cause when you go to mozilla.org, its got it up
[08:52] <Telep> works great
[08:52] <ruairi> there was one of the gstream components listed which I couldn't find in the library
[08:52] <hav0k> thanks Telep
[08:52] <Lis> i have a problom i have juat installed, ubuntu an when it boots it get stucks when it try's to hotplug an if i try recovery mode i get "spammed" with azx_get_time timeout errors
[08:52] <gnomefreak> hav0k, its RC3
[08:52] <blue-frog> slashx1896, sudo rm /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup   (or something like that)
[08:52] <Telep> gnomefreak, no it's not
[08:52] <Telep> final was released yesterday
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Telep,  yes it is read www.mozzila.com it says it right there
[08:52] <slashx1896> should i be under my desktop terminal? or main
[08:52] <blue-frog> ruairi, u need all components, enable universe and multiverse
[08:52] <ruairi> blue-frog: and I've tried running on minimum resoloution just to see if that helped.
[08:53] <hav0k> gnomefreak, i dont see where it says rc3
[08:53] <infosoph> Could anyone tell me whether daap is enabled in rhythmbox 0.9.2? I'm able to see the share using Zeroconf browser, but not within RB.
[08:53] <Telep> gnomefreak, they haven't made an official announcement yet but trust me, it's on their servers
[08:53] <djm62> Jabo: someone from #scotlug?
[08:53] <ruairi> blue-frog. yep I've got those
[08:53] <gnomefreak> hold on let me see if they changed it from lastnight
[08:53] <blue-frog> ruairi, using totem-xine does that?
[08:53] <hav0k> gnomefreak, it says "Nov 29 Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Released"
[08:54] <martii> hav0k: but it's not in ubuntu
[08:54] <hav0k> martii, not in ubuntu?
[08:54] <Seveas> infosoph, no it is not
[08:54] <worldmaster0> hey, guys, i'd like to suggest an upgrade in ubuntu linux: wireless internet support.
[08:54] <ruairi> blue-frog. yes lots of funny lines
[08:54] <Seveas> worldmaster0, don't troll
[08:54] <djm62> worldmaster0: nobody would want it even if it was possible
[08:54] <hav0k> haha
[08:54] <infosoph> thanks.
[08:55] <worldmaster0> me, trolling?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> since the firefox website is down i dont know where you people are getting this from :(
[08:55] <blue-frog> ruairi, for me that's encryption pb. u should try to go over the guide once again...
[08:55] <Geeek> can anybody help me to install ubuntu on second partition, the first with xp ?
[08:55] <hav0k> gnomefreak, mozilla.org
[08:55] <hav0k> gnomefreak, i think mozilla.com isnt working at the moment
[08:55] <gnomefreak> yeah i know and yet click on firefox and i get a 404
[08:55] <blue-frog> Geeek, boot, use second partition.
[08:56] <Leiv> any Cron gurus here?
[08:56] <Seveas> !tell Leiv about anyone
[08:56] <Geeek> @ the installation screen have got many options, which should i use?
[08:56] <B_166-ER-X> Can someone help me on this, i've been trying to understand why the help wasnt showing up (yelp) this gives a hint...but i really dont know what to do with it http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MUzcT779.html
[08:56] <vegos> anyone know the link to the list of wireless drivers
[08:57] <gnomefreak> your right im sorry as of lastnight around 9 it was still not final on thier site
[08:57] <ruairi> blue-frog, It seems to decript fine, the problem is not one of a totally garbled output, just the edges of any moving objects become fuzzed, with every 3rd or 4th line being offset by about a cm
[08:57] <anavim> are there any plans to support apple's .dmg format for dapper?
[08:57] <bamboozle> hi
[08:57] <matapa> hola chicos soy nuevo en eso e intentado bajarme el azureus pero no se ejecutarlo
[08:57] <Leiv> is it possible to start a command in the evening and kill it in the moring?
[08:57] <Geeek> blue-frog @ the installation screen have got many options, which should i use?
[08:57] <blue-frog> ruairi, try installing mplayer or oggledvd to see if it does the same
[08:58] <djm62> Seveas: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tbe5xK25.html is my error, if you wouldn't mind having a look
[08:58] <vegos> anyone know the link to the list of wireless drivers
[08:58] <blue-frog> Geeek, what install screen?
[08:58] <Artemis3> matapa, entra en #ubuntu-es
[08:58] <djm62> Leiv: if the command is one that runs until you kill it, then yes
[08:58] <SatanGolga> Firefox 1.5 --> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5/
[08:58] <djm62> Leiv: if you want to be hands-off, the command "at" might be your boy
[08:59] <Leiv> I want to run bittorent (btlaunchmany) only at night
[08:59] <ney> oi
[08:59] <blue-frog> Geeek, /join #bluefrog
[08:59] <psusi> normally it is very easy to enable remote desktop control with vnc from the ubuntu desktop... how can you do that from the command line?  I have a server with no mouse
[08:59] <vegos> anyone know the link to the list of wireless drivers
[08:59] <ruairi> bluefrog, oggledvd give a black screen output
[08:59] <gnomefreak> !wireless
[08:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:59] <bamboozle> is there a list of boot time arguments for the ubuntu installation? i need it so that it can "see" my sata hard drive.
[09:00] <theD3viL> Why i cant play wmv files? I can rename and play it.
[09:00] <andrew> Could someone clarify for me. If I want to have a partition that can be read and written to by both windows and ubuntu it should be FAT 32?
[09:00] <bamboozle> andrew, yeap.
[09:00] <andrew> bamboozle: cool, thanks
[09:00] <bamboozle> andrew, no prob :)
[09:01] <Leiv> how do I start a command at night by using cron/crontab then?
[09:01] <ruairi> blue-frog, ok sorry, not oggledvd, it was ogle
[09:01] <andrew> Bamboozle: any idea why xmms will play mp3 files from the ubuntu partition but not from the NTFS partition, totem will play it from both.
[09:01] <ney> oi
[09:01] <ney> gostaria de conversar com voc um pouco
[09:01] <bamboozle> andrew, i think in linux fat32 is vfat (but i'm not sure)
[09:02] <ney> pode ser?
[09:02] <mpmc> I've installed bmp (beep media player) and trying to install a plugin and it's saying that it's not found it..
[09:02] <gnomefreak> is that french?
[09:02] <k0p> ney, aqui fala-se Ingls. LOL!
[09:02] <xychix> what is the ubuntu way of mounting smbfs://192.168.1.99.data     ???
[09:02] <Seveas> ney, stick to english in here please
[09:02] <ney> poxa vida
[09:02] <xychix> i want to play music from there
[09:02] <ney> eu queria uma ajuda
[09:02] <worldmaster0> hey, while we're on the topic of playing mp3s, my live cd won't play them on any media player sorry i'm a n00b
[09:02] <mp3guy> how do i install a .ttf i downloaded/
[09:03] <Seveas> !tell worldmaster0 about mp3
[09:03] <bamboozle> andrew, no clue. but i think that the support of ntfs is still not stable in linux. so many developers may not implement it.
[09:03] <Seveas> mp3guy, put it in ~/.fonts/
[09:03] <mpmc> Any ideas why the plugin wont install?
[09:03] <Tuntis> !tell Tuntis I didn't install Ubuntu correctly and want help in ubuntuforums.org
[09:03] <genoto> cool
[09:04] <xychix> :P
[09:04] <mp3guy> thanks Seveas
[09:04] <djm62> andrew: is it specifically mp3 files on ntfs, or the whole ntfs partition?
[09:04] <xychix> lol
[09:04] <xychix> how to use     mount -t smbfs ??
[09:04] <mpmc> !tell me about plugins
[09:04] <xychix> can't get it working /
[09:04] <psusi> normally it is very easy to enable remote desktop control with vnc from the ubuntu desktop... how can you do that from the command line?  I have a server with no mouse
[09:04] <ney> oi
[09:04] <ney> voc pode me ajudar
[09:04] <xychix> psusi: ssh
[09:04] <djm62> xychix: you can do Places->Connect to Server
[09:04] <ney> eu no falo em ingls
[09:04] <NuK> ney, qual seu problema?
[09:04] <xychix> djm62: will it make a mount ?
[09:05] <Seveas> ney, for the last time: stick to english in here
[09:05] <djm62> xychix: umm, I'm not entirely sure.  it'll work in gnome
[09:05] <rob_p> ney:  #ubuntu-br  Talvez alguem possa te ajudar ai.
[09:05] <BooZee> ipv6 - is setting ipv6 in ubuntu suppose to be diffrent from other distros? cuz I've in #ipv6 for the past week, and every night I've tried every way that could be possible, and nothing helped
[09:05] <Seveas> there are localized channels if you want another language
[09:05] <xychix> djm62: i did that ... it works  BUT i cant find the mount point :P
[09:05] <epifanio> hola
[09:05] <xychix> djm62: so i cannot go there on a console
[09:05] <ney> [e que estou quererndo instalar um programa e no sei como fao
[09:05] <djm62> xychix: and mount tells you nothing?
[09:05] <heroicraptor> what's the command to start ubuntu from the command line?
[09:06] <ney> querendo
[09:06] <ney> sou iniciante
[09:06] <xychix> djm62: nope ... mounting a smbfs is just a little different from normal mounting
[09:06] <ney> mas entendo um pouco de linux
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ney about es
[09:06] <aster036472> i have an ubuntu live cd....how do i access its repository in windows?
[09:06] <jerry_> Question...ok am I crazy in thinking that I shouldn't have to compile and build my video driver for opengl and 3d?  I have a ATI 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133?
[09:06] <NuK> ney, hm
[09:06] <jerry_> or I'm the only one that uses that video card?
[09:06] <rob_p> ney:  Eles ficam meio chatos quando a gente nao fala em ingles nesta canal 'ta bom.
[09:07] <bamboozle> is there somewhere a complete list of boot time arguments for the ubuntu installation? does it have multiple boot kernels? i need something so that it can "see" my sata hard drive.
[09:07] <B_166-ER-X> i'm getting discouraged now.. i cannot find ANY help about this, except other people who had this problem http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MUzcT779.html
[09:07] <slashx1896> Its not letting me play videos on websites.. like big-boys.net it playts 1 second of the video then freezes
[09:07] <NuK> ney, olha na parte debaixo do chat, eu abri um chat particular com vc, olha la
[09:07] <djm62> bamboozle: I suspect no-one on here has experience there- have you tried google?
[09:07] <heroicraptor> slashx1896: that's probably a browser problem
[09:07] <Seveas> NuK, stick to english in here
[09:08] <slashx1896> but then other websites wont let me play it either
[09:08] <bamboozle> djm62, i did with no luck.
[09:08] <NuK> Seveas,  mimimi~
[09:08] <heroicraptor> slashx1896: are you using firefox?
[09:08] <slashx1896> yea
[09:09] <Seveas> aaaaaaaaaaah it's LjL
[09:09] <worldmaster0> whats so bad about ljl
[09:09] <slashx1896> im using firefox, and it wont le me play videos no matter wat site
[09:09] <_jason> slashx1896, what plugin are you using to play the videos?
[09:09] <Seveas> worldmaster0, you don't want to know :)
[09:09] <slashx1896> not sure
[09:09] <heroicraptor> slashx1896: there's a bug in firefox where if you click away from a page playing built-in media and then go back, the video won't be there. It also sometimes happens if the media gets pushed over and then pushed back
[09:10] <LjL> aaaaaah it's seveas
[09:10] <worldmaster0> um guys
[09:10] <slashx1896> well it plays the video for like 3 seconds then stops
[09:10] <_jason> slashx1896, check the about:plugins page
[09:10] <Seveas> I hate internet trolls avoinding bans...
[09:10] <heroicraptor> that's usually what happens with me
[09:10] <jerry_> Question...ok am I crazy in thinking that I shouldn't have to compile and build my video driver for opengl and 3d?  I have a ATI 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133?
[09:11] <LjL> Seveas: you gotta learn to be faster
[09:11] <Seveas> LjL, I'm tired :)
[09:11] <heroicraptor> slash: you can try using the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension
[09:11] <Seveas> !tell jerry_ about ati
[09:11] <nubs0r> Still having problems with MySQL and sugarcrm
[09:11] <nubs0r> ive read so much
[09:11] <slashx1896> heroicraptor: wat?
[09:11] <nubs0r> i made it bypass the grant access tables
[09:11] <deltron> !tell deltron about ati
[09:11] <jerry_> seveas  thx
[09:11] <LjL> Seveas: of course you are, you went to bed yesterday at almost the same hour i did...! shouldn't be surprising
[09:11] <worldmaster0> mysql has something to do w/ your OS?
[09:11] <nubs0r> deltron, :), del tha funkee homosapien
[09:12] <nubs0r> worldmaster0, Sugarcrm is not an OS..
[09:12] <heroicraptor> slash:  go to the firefox extensions page and look for "MediaPlayerConnectivity"
[09:12] <deltron> lol nubs0r ;)
[09:12] <nubs0r> anyway yea, SugarCRM install.php reads Mysql Database Not available
[09:13] <nubs0r> i cant figure out why
[09:13] <lectromusic> anybody here do any music stuff with linux?
[09:13] <worldmaster0> nope sorry
[09:13] <nubs0r> lectromusic, no way, use windows for that
[09:13] <slashx1896> the webpage? Mozzilla update :: extensions
[09:13] <Seveas> nubs0r, bollocks
[09:13] <nightyna> Hey, Does anyone know a mp3 player for ubuntu
[09:13] <heroicraptor> yeah
[09:13] <nubs0r> Reason, Fruity Loops Studio, Adobe Auditon, everything you need
[09:13] <Seveas> linux has excellent audio software
[09:13] <worldmaster0> ive never seen it
[09:13] <LjL> what is it that i'm missing trying to get my ubuntu accept X clients from another machine? i've done "xhost +" on ubuntu, "export DISPLAY=the.relevant.ip.address:0" on the other machine...
[09:13] <nubs0r> Audacity and MuSe
[09:13] <heroicraptor> slash: yeah
[09:13] <nightyna> I cant play any mp3 files
[09:13] <Seveas> !tell nightyna about mp3
[09:13] <nubs0r> other wise it has nothing lol
[09:13] <lectromusic> why do you say that?
[09:13] <worldmaster0> audacity rules
[09:13] <nightyna> are mp3's supported
[09:14] <nubs0r> of course.
[09:14] <szehne> i'd like to personally thank all of you guys here, because of the help between here and the forums, i was able to install ubuntu on my laptop with ease. thanks all!
[09:14] <worldmaster0> in linux?
[09:14] <worldmaster0> nm
[09:14] <nightyna> with what player
[09:14] <nubs0r> szehne, np
[09:14] <Seveas> nightyna, yes, read the url ubotu sent you
[09:14] <deltron> I gotta get ubuntu on my laptop now :P
[09:14] <worldmaster0> hey i have question
[09:14] <nubs0r> As far as music production
[09:14] <nightyna> ubotu?
[09:14] <Myk3> hey
[09:14] <nubs0r> Reason + Windows is the way to go, either that or a mac
[09:14] <slashx1896> Cant find it
[09:14] <heroicraptor> what is the command to start ubuntu from the command line?
[09:14] <nubs0r> if you really want it to be Unix Based
[09:14] <slashx1896> this page? https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox
[09:14] <Myk3> is there a divx or a xvid encoder app for linux?
[09:14] <Myk3> startx
[09:14] <lectromusic> What audio software do you recommend?
[09:14] <heroicraptor> slash: yep
[09:14] <yhcheong> how do i check user ?
[09:15] <nightyna> seveas
[09:15] <pirast> hi, i have totem-xine installed. When I play streams with FF they lagg. What can I do against it?
[09:15] <Seveas> nubs0r, trolling is not the topic of this channel
[09:15] <djm62> heroicraptor: your question makes little sense
[09:15] <nightyna> what url
[09:15] <Seveas> !tell nightyna about mp3
[09:15] <Seveas> nightyna, he just sent it to you again
[09:15] <Secreth`X> Does FF have a memory leak? O_O
[09:15] <nightyna> K
[09:15] <slashx1896> Media player connectivy aint here
[09:15] <heroicraptor> djm: when I login, i am at a command line that says "<username here>@ubuntu :$
[09:15] <worldmaster0> i know
[09:16] <djm62> heroicraptor: ah, and you want to start the gui :)
[09:16] <heroicraptor> djm: yes
[09:16] <bamboozle> bye
[09:16] <BooZee> what app can I use to rip cd's to mp3 in good quality ?
[09:16] <worldmaster0> bye
[09:16] <djm62> heroicraptor: has it always been like that?
[09:16] <heroicraptor> djm: yep
[09:16] <gnomefreak> the only issue ive had with linux and audio is that the browsers wont play midi files and ive tried everything
[09:16] <slashx1896> Heroicraptor: cant rfind it..
[09:16] <pirast> hmm.. mplayer works :-(
[09:16] <djm62> BooZee: sound juicer is nice
[09:17] <heroicraptor> djm: it did say that it failed to install something from openoffice.org, but that shouldn't affect it
[09:17] <slashx1896> Theres 20 differnet ones and none are media player
[09:17] <slashx1896> connectivty
[09:17] <djm62> heroicraptor: no, but try, from the command line, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:17] <heroicraptor> slash: ill find you the link
[09:17] <BooZee> djm62: but it doesn't have an mp3 option
[09:17] <heroicraptor> djm: ok
[09:17] <djm62> BooZee: hang on, theres a link near the top of google
[09:18] <djm62> BooZee: slightly annoying, but it's a set and forget
[09:18] <slashx1896> k
[09:20] <BooZee> djm62:  ??
[09:20] <gen> hola
[09:20] <TokenBad> ok..here is one...I just rebooted..and when to load mozzilla...and it asked if I wanted to load the default thing..well said ok..and it says it can't cause its in use...
[09:20] <Seveas> !tell gen about es
[09:20] <TokenBad> but thats the one that has all my info
[09:20] <nightyna> Thanks seveas
[09:20] <djm62> BooZee: http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/99-MP3-encoding-with-Sound-Juicer.html
[09:20] <TokenBad> and I just rebooted
[09:20] <djm62> BooZee: give me time, dude
[09:20] <nightyna> but how can I use MP3
[09:20] <gen> hi
[09:20] <nightyna> Has anyone figured it out
[09:20] <BooZee> djm62: oh i'm sorry.. didn'y quite understand that..
[09:20] <worldmaster0> not free...? i think
[09:21] <worldmaster0> i was taling to nightnya
[09:21] <nightyna> I have too many Mp3 files
[09:21] <budluva> anyone had any luck with age of empires 3 in linux yet?
[09:21] <nightyna> Worldmaster go ahead
[09:21] <heroicraptor> when did AoE III come out?!
[09:21] <trappist> slashx1896: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/e02a
[09:21] <djm62> BooZee: that page tell you what you need to know?
[09:21] <nightyna> I was just reading up on mp3 support in linux
[09:21] <worldmaster0> nignt: there's a thing on the ubuntu site
[09:22] <nightyna> it's unsupported format
[09:22] <budluva> my bad
[09:22] <budluva> aoe2
[09:22] <nightyna> which ubuntu site
[09:22] <worldmaster0> they make it 4 linux now
[09:22] <Seveas> nightyna, no it's not, you need to install a few things, that's all
[09:22] <djm62> nightyna: that isn't true...mp3 isn't a great format, but it works fine on linux
[09:22] <nightyna> kool
[09:22] <nightyna> how can i get the files
[09:23] <Artemis3> !tell nightyna about mp3
[09:23] <worldmaster0> idk
[09:23] <budluva> heroicraptor, aoe3 is out
[09:23] <Seveas> yes, I am banning a complete isp
[09:23] <djm62> wow, poor brazilians
[09:23] <worldmaster0> why ban a whole isp?
[09:24] <Artemis3> lazy admins
[09:24] <Seveas> because it's dialup and one fucker keeps connecting from different ip addresses
[09:24] <andy_> I am hacing trouble installing opera, could anyone help
[09:24] <worldmaster0> oh\
[09:24] <andy_> *having
[09:24] <worldmaster0> hmmm
[09:24] <Knowerrors> anybody here using kde 3.5?
[09:24] <worldmaster0> sorry
[09:24] <worldmaster0> kde?
[09:24] <andy_> ubuntu
[09:24] <worldmaster0> whats kde
[09:24] <nightyna> lol
[09:24] <Artemis3> lol
[09:24] <djm62> worldmaster0: kde.org
[09:24] <nightyna> not on ubuntu
[09:24] <Knowerrors> hehe
[09:24] <Artemis3> ^^
[09:24] <Seveas> worldmaster0, Krappy Desktop Environment ;)
[09:24] <Lis> hey
[09:24] <worldmaster0> lolol
[09:25] <Knowerrors> ooooh
[09:25] <nightyna> lol
[09:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell andy about opera
[09:25] <hav0k> so i got the new firefox set up
[09:25] <nightyna> good one seveas
[09:25] <Seveas> nightyna, neh
[09:25] <worldmaster0> brb
[09:25] <nightyna> you have a better one
[09:25] <andy_> would be appreciated if some one coould, i followed the opera support thing for installing it, get errors...
[09:25] <Lis> my X isent working in the log i get Fatal error: no screens was found
[09:25] <B_166-ER-X> i need some SERIOUS help. i have a reccurent problem, and last time i had to reinstall, about by nvidia drivers, i know all about the guides and how to's but my problem is elsewhere, and i dont know where it come from, if someone realy knows what he's talking about... i would GLADLY accept help here :\  thx
[09:26] <gnomefreak> andy_,  are they missing libs errors?
[09:26] <andy_> ill copy error now...
[09:26] <heroicraptor> slash: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446
[09:26] <Artemis3> ah, nothing like binary propietary nvidia driver problems
[09:26] <gnomefreak> andy_, use pastebin to copt
[09:26] <gnomefreak> copy*
[09:26] <andy_> wts install again?? sorry im a newb... skpg??
[09:26] <ongardie> My first harddrive is listed as hde, is there anyway to change it to hda?
[09:26] <andy_> the terminal line
[09:26] <andy_> to install
[09:26] <ongardie> help
[09:26] <Seveas> andy_, dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:27] <Artemis3> hde... sata?
[09:27] <heroicraptor> ongardie: does it really matter?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> andy_,  run sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:27] <Lis> Is there a console X configuration tool??
[09:27] <gnomefreak> Lis, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <B_166-ER-X> basically, when i do the  nividia confi-enable thing ,  then restart X, i only have a black screen at restart.  if i want to come back whitout reinstall, i have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file  to change the 'driver' from 'nvidia' to 'nv' , then reboot
[09:27] <xoombot> anyone here linux+ certified?
[09:28] <andy_> where do i paste to gnome freak
[09:28] <Lis> gnomefreak, thx
[09:28] <Seveas> andy_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:28] <andy_> opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:
[09:28] <andy_>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[09:28] <andy_> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[09:28] <andy_>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:28] <andy_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:28] <andy_>  opera
[09:28] <xoombot> anyone here linux+ certified?
[09:28] <heroicraptor> slashx1896: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446
[09:28] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[09:28] <TokenBad> ok..here is one...I just rebooted..and when to load mozzilla...and it asked if I wanted to load the default thing..well said ok..and it says it can't cause its in use...
[09:28] <Seveas> xoombot, repeating questions is pretty useless
[09:28] <gnomefreak> andy_,  run sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[09:29] <Seveas> gnomefreak, that one does not exist in breezy
[09:29] <Seveas> !tell andy_ about opers
[09:29] <Seveas> !tell andy_ about opera
[09:29] <djm62> TokenBad: I think your mozilla has crashed, you need to...oh hang it
[09:29] <worldmaster0> how much space do you need on an hd or partition to install?
[09:29] <heroicraptor> he already rebooted
[09:30] <gnomefreak> i did that already Seveas  and the one i think replaces it is libqt5-mt i think thats it :(
[09:30] <heroicraptor> 1.8 gigs
[09:30] <worldmaster0> ok
[09:30] <worldmaster0> thx herio
[09:30] <heroicraptor> np
[09:30] <worldmaster0> thats for v. 5.10
[09:30] <worldmaster0> righht
[09:30] <heroicraptor> yep
[09:30] <worldmaster0> ok
[09:31] <TokenBad> djm62, how could it...I just rebooted the machine
[09:31] <B_166-ER-X> then .. no help for me today it seems.
[09:32] <B_166-ER-X> had no answers to any of my questions here all day, 1st time i see this here
[09:32] <elio_> who can give me a link about installing a library, or which library type (rpm or so.) i must download and so on...?
[09:32] <heroicraptor> is your problem with nvidia or ubuntu, b_166-er-x?
[09:32] <djm62> TokenBad: there's a file left somewhere, but I have complete mental block as to where
[09:32] <elio_> ubuntu
[09:32] <derrickw> can anyone recommend a good linux alternative to dreamweaver? or are linux users too hardcore for wysiwyg editors? i know html, of course, but coding elaborate CSS based web sites in Kate can be a nuisance
[09:32] <Seveas> elio_, system -> administration -> package manager
[09:32] <_jason> TokenBad, it asks you to use a different profile?
[09:32] <Seveas> that's all you need
[09:33] <heroicraptor> djm62: its called parent.lock, but i can't remember where
[09:33] <djm62> derrickw: nvu or bluefish
[09:33] <B_166-ER-X> heroicraptor,  i have 2 problem, one bigger than the other,  and if my Nvidia works right on windows, i guess its a ubuntu-vidia problem..
[09:33] <Secreth`X> howto restart samba?
[09:33] <derrickw> djm62 - thanks. do you have a preference between the two?
[09:33] <elio_> there i can't find libxml-parser-perl, was i'm so stupid? and don't find this file?
[09:33] <Seveas> Secreth`X, sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[09:33] <Secreth`X> thx
[09:33] <Seveas> !info libxml-parser-perl
[09:33] <heroicraptor> b_166-er-x maybe nvidia doesn't support linux
[09:33] <ubotu> libxml-parser-perl: (Perl module for parsing XML files), section perl, is optional. Version: 2.34-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 708 kB
[09:33] <djm62> derrickw: my preference: emacs, but I do know there are alternatives
[09:33] <B_166-ER-X> heroicraptor,  wow, you surely know your things. ok
[09:33] <Seveas> elio_, it's there...
[09:34] <B_166-ER-X> propably this
[09:34] <elio_> yes, i'm looking for...
[09:34] <djm62> B_166-ER-X: try googling your card name and "ubuntu"
[09:34] <TokenBad> _jason, yes
[09:34] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X, i've had a lot of problems with my nvidia card. what's wrong?
[09:34] <heroicraptor> tokenbad: try searching for "parent.lock" and deleteing that file
[09:34] <B_166-ER-X> djm62,  there is 10's of guides and how-to's to install cards like mine, the problem is elsewhere
[09:35] <worldmaster0> whats nvidia
[09:35] <B_166-ER-X> basically, when i do the  nividia confi-enable thing ,  then restart X, i only have a black screen at restart.  if i want to come back whitout reinstall, i have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file  to change the 'driver' from 'nvidia' to 'nv' , then reboot
[09:35] <B_166-ER-X> ..
[09:35] <heroicraptor> worldmaster0: a video card company
[09:35] <_jason> TokenBad, I know you jsut rebooted but check what "ps aux | grep firefox" returns
[09:35] <worldmaster0> thank
[09:35] <worldmaster0> s
[09:36] <Artemis3> nv is opensource (no 3d, stable) nvidia is not...
[09:36] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X - did you download the nvidia driver for ubuntu? it's not installed by default
[09:36] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  What is your video card?
[09:36] <TokenBad> _jason, tokenbad  9050  0.0  0.0   1488   312 pts/0    R+   12:35   0:00 grep firefox
[09:36] <B_166-ER-X> derrickw, i followed step by step the 'yelp' hardware guide for nvidia cards
[09:36] <oxez> anyone know a program like 'Simple Accounting' for Linux?
[09:36] <B_166-ER-X> and its a geforce 2
[09:37] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X - do you mind opening synaptic for me?
[09:37] <B_166-ER-X> np
[09:37] <afabian> I haven't found the nvidia driver to be any less stable than nv, *except* when using gl.
[09:37] <blue-frog> B_166-ER-X, before kiiling X and after sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  u should do   sudo modprobe nvidia  just in case...
[09:37] <afabian> granted, nv can't do that at all.
[09:37] <elio_> @seveas: i brought it for anjuta, the DevIDE
[09:37] <B_166-ER-X> blue-frog, whats modprobe ?
[09:37] <Seveas> !info anjuta
[09:38] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[09:38] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X - do you know what kernel you're running?
[09:38] <_jason> TokenBad, what version of firefox
[09:38] <Seveas> elio_, enable universe
[09:38] <elio_> !info anjuta
[09:38] <B_166-ER-X> last k7 one
[09:38] <blue-frog> B_166-ER-X, loads the driver
[09:38] <TokenBad> _jason, not sure..whatever came with breezy I guess
[09:38] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[09:38] <_jason> TokenBad, it just started doing this?
[09:38] <TokenBad> yeah just now
[09:39] <_jason> TokenBad, you've rebooted after the error occured and it persists correct?
[09:39] <slashx1896> When i type 'setkeycodes e02a 256' it says "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[09:39] <slashx1896> "
[09:39] <B_166-ER-X> derrickw why did you want synaptic openned ?
[09:39] <trappist> slashx1896: did you get the link I sent you
[09:39] <trappist> slashx1896: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/e02a
[09:39] <slashx1896> yea
[09:39] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X - i want to see which models you have installed
[09:39] <B_166-ER-X> models of ..?
[09:39] <slashx1896> it says to type setkeycodes e02a 256 doesnt it?
[09:39] <trappist> slashx1896: it doesn't say to do that.
[09:40] <slashx1896> o
[09:40] <derrickw> and i have synaptic open and i searched nvidia, so it's easier if we're at the same place
[09:40] <slashx1896> oo
[09:40] <slashx1896> my bad
[09:40] <slashx1896> lol
[09:40] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[09:40] <TokenBad> no...
[09:40] <diesel> I would like to use keychain so that I don't have to enter my password each connect.  My question is do I create the ssh keys on the server first or on the client?
[09:40] <TokenBad> _jason, no..it started after I rebooted
[09:40] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X - do you have "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9- installed?
[09:40] <trappist> slashx1896: I wrote that wiki page, just now, for you.  it's short.  the least you could do is read it.
[09:41] <slashx1896> lol i misread something i get it now
[09:41] <slashx1896> how do i change the fine so its not read only?
[09:41] <trappist> slashx1896: you have to edit it as root.  so use sudo.
[09:41] <_jason> TokenBad, try rebooting and see what happens, we can try to figure out why ff can't access the profile if that fails.
[09:41] <B_166-ER-X> derrickw, dang, might be this : i have the 386 ones installed, but my kernel is k7
[09:42] <slashx1896> how? i still dont get much of the 'sudo' stuff, i just started 2 days ago
[09:42] <elio_> thax seveas! i'm downloading it now. I find this irc is great
[09:42] <Toba> hrm
[09:42] <djm62> slashx1896: sudo commandyouwanttorunasroot
[09:42] <Toba> I downloaded firefox 1.5
[09:42] <Toba> and when I open links in other applications, it gets all screwed up
[09:42] <Toba> and I don't know why
[09:42] <Toba> anyone have experience with this?
[09:43] <_jason> toba make sure preferred applications is set to run "firefox" not "mozilla-firefox"
[09:43] <slashx1896> so sudo remove?
[09:43] <trappist> slashx1896: sudo vi
[09:43] <slashx1896> k
[09:43] <Toba> _jason: I set my preferred application to the "firefox" binary that came in the tarball, yes
[09:43] <jrattner1> are there any specific DELL patches for kernels
[09:44] <BooZee> djm62: hey, how can I set a higher KBPS ?
[09:44] <Toba> see if I run firefox normally it works fine
[09:44] <Toba> if I run it with an argument of a url it works fine
[09:44] <Toba> but when I open it from other apps it breaks
[09:44] <derrickw> B_166-ER-X - yeah, that could be a problem. here's what i did after all of my problems: uninstall all the packages associated with nvidia (except for the x server), then reinstall them, making sure you got the modules that fit your kernel and processor, then reboot
[09:44] <derrickw> should work
[09:44] <Seveas> Toba, that's your problem - FF 1.5 is not supported yet on Ubuntu
[09:44] <_jason> Toba, did you follow the wiki or install on your own?
[09:45] <Toba> I just downloaded it from mozilla.org
[09:45] <Toba> and put it in my homedir
[09:45] <slashx1896> dam this stuff is confusing :(
[09:45] <djm62> BooZee: a higher what now?
[09:45] <worldmaster0> slashx: i know
[09:45] <_jason> toba, follow the wiki it will show you how to divert the firefox command to use the new firefox, I'll send you the link
[09:45] <Toba> I guess linux distros are too different to expect perfect results...
[09:45] <B_166-ER-X> yeah, will try that derrickw , i'll make sure to have all my kernel files there this time
[09:45] <Toba> thanks
[09:45] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[09:45] <_jason> ubotu, tell Toba about ffnew
[09:45] <Seveas> Toba, no, firefox devs are too stupid
[09:45] <slashx1896> its gonna take me forever just to remove the line lol
[09:46] <xkahn> Hmm...  Okay.  So I ported pam_xauth to ubuntu.
[09:46] <xkahn> And made a patch.
[09:46] <trappist> slashx1896: put your cursor on the line.  hit 'dd'.  then :wq<enter>
[09:46] <xkahn> who do I submit it to?
[09:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell Toba about firefox1.5
[09:46] <jrattner1> How do i enable hyperthreading
[09:46] <slashx1896> what u mean hit dd?
[09:46] <Seveas> xkahn, file an enhancement bug at the bugzilla and attach the patch
[09:47] <trappist> slashx1896: press the d key two times
[09:47] <BooZee> djm62: a higher kbps then 128
[09:47] <BooZee> for the mp3 ...
[09:47] <slashx1896> E32: No file name
[09:47] <xkahn> Seveas: okay
[09:48] <TokenBad> _jason, that seems to have fixed it
[09:48] <blondie|test> 1/bans
[09:48] <vertz> Hi, i just installed ubuntu breezy badger.. and i updated first thing after installing, but my problem is i cant get the nvidia drivers to work.. when i try to modprobe nvidia driver i get this error: FATAL: error inserting (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): no such device
[09:48] <vertz> anyone know why?
[09:48] <_jason> TokenBad, cool
[09:48] <RustyJames> hi, i have a problem with nautilus. when i want to read the properties of a mp3 or ogg or other sound file nautilus freezes.
[09:48] <yhcheong> help
[09:48] <TokenBad> now still wonder what would have caused it
[09:48] <trappist> slashx1896: sudo vim /usr/share/hotkey-setup/generic.hk
[09:48] <netcrusher88> can Ubuntu be installed from the livecd?
[09:48] <RustyJames> does anyone know that problem?
[09:48] <yhcheong> i need guideline to make my canon work
[09:48] <psusi> netcrusher88: not officially/easily
[09:48] <yhcheong> canon printer work
[09:48] <blondie|test> why is this banned from this channel please: 1 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@*tor* [by ChanServ!ChanServ@services., 509 secs ago] 
[09:48] <Seveas> vertz, sudo apt-get install linux-686 (or -k7 if you have an amd) and reboot
[09:48] <netcrusher88> define easily
[09:48] <_jason> TokenBad, yes that's strange.  It usually happens if firefox doesn't close properly but it didn't seem to be open in your case
[09:48] <vertz> Seveas: thanks :)
[09:48] <LjL> blondie|test: too many abusive users from tor
[09:49] <netcrusher88> i've done debian before
[09:49] <Seveas> blondie|test, too much abuse from tor
[09:49] <vedran> hy i need help
[09:49] <TokenBad> yeah it was weird
[09:49] <blondie|test> Seveas: could it be more carefully... constructed so that I can join from raptor.ukc.ac.uk
[09:49] <psusi> netcrusher88: you can install from the livecd by manually formatting the partition and using debootstrap to bootstrap the system... then install packages manually
[09:49] <Seveas> ah crap
[09:49] <netcrusher88> oh, that's easy enough
[09:49] <Seveas> sure
[09:49] <jrattner1> Seveas, how do i enable hyperthreading? for p4
[09:49] <psusi> basically, you have to manually install the system yourself
[09:49] <netcrusher88> thanks
[09:49] <LjL> Seveas: :-)
[09:49] <vedran> how to install mp3
[09:50] <worldmaster0> seveas tell vedran about mp3s
[09:50] <netcrusher88> vedran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3
[09:50] <djm62> worldmaster0: ubotu is a bot, seveas much less so
[09:50] <djm62> worldmaster0: you have to be polite to people
[09:50] <worldmaster0> oh nvm then
[09:50] <trappist> hahaha
[09:51] <worldmaster0> sorry...
[09:51] <trappist> worldmaster0: also, mp3 not mp3s
[09:51] <djm62> ubotu tell vedran about mp3
[09:51] <worldmaster0> as i said before, i am NOOB
[09:51] <Seveas> blondie|test, done
[09:51] <blondie|test> thanks
[09:52] <mp3guy> is there anything wrong with setting my disk cache in firefox to 1gb
[09:52] <slashx1896> E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)
[09:52] <slashx1896> do i just type :! ?
[09:52] <jrattner1> Is there a program similar to knewsticker (scrolling rss feeds) for gnome?
[09:52] <Seveas> :w!
[09:52] <psusi> mp3guy: seems like it would waste quite a bit of space
[09:52] <Seveas> :!w
[09:52] <trappist> mp3guy: besides being a waste of disk space, every time firefox loads something it will have to search through 1gb of files first to see if it's cached
[09:52] <netcrusher88> !livecd
[09:52] <ubotu> from memory, livecd is useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.
[09:52] <vedran> but i need it 4 ubuntu amd64
[09:53] <trappist> mp3guy: so it's likely to slow you down
[09:53] <psusi> vedran: need what for amd64?
[09:53] <vedran> mp3 codecs
[09:54] <Zag0R> do y now how i can extend my desktop on my laptop with ati ?
[09:54] <pussfeller> hmm this external hard drive is formatted vfat... and vfat seems to have file name issues
[09:55] <slashx1896> so i go over what i want to delte and hit D twice?
[09:55] <slashx1896> then :!w
[09:55] <slashx1896> then what?
[09:55] <pussfeller> is there some script that will rename files to work with vfat?
[09:55] <Seveas> slashx1896, :h
[09:55] <trappist> slashx1896: :wq<enter>
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> pussfeller,  what 'issues' ?  it may be in how you are mounting it.
[09:56] <sls> where is the best spot to ask about the kickstart functionality in ubuntu
[09:56] <pussfeller> Dr_Willis: like certain directories cant be made cause of symbols or whatever in the name
[09:56] <pussfeller> or they are too long I guess
[09:56] <slashx1896> after i hit :wq<enter> am i done?
[09:56] <pussfeller> or have colons
[09:56] <djm62> sls: using amiga bootroms?
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> pussfeller,  what language ya using ?
[09:56] <pussfeller> maybe i should make it ntfs
[09:56] <pussfeller> Dr_Willis: engrish
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. ivre never noticed such issues to be honest pussfeller
[09:57] <slashx1896> do i restart it after i do :wq<enter>
[09:57] <mp3guy> thanks trappist
[09:57] <sls> djm62: i am using vmware and standard i386 and AMD64
[09:58] <mp3guy> how do i enable video thumbnails in nautilus?
[09:58] <stratovarius> hey all
[09:58] <vertz> Seveas: I still get the same error after installed linux-686 and rebooted :(
[09:58] <_jason> how come I have the "ffnew" factoid setup, have been able to call it in the past and it is present in the online database, but when I use it now, ubotu says he doesn't know?
[09:58] <BooZee> djm62: how can I set a highr kbps then 128 in the configuration you gave me for ripping mp3 from cds using sound juicer ?
[09:58] <trappist> _jason: maybe he's been told to forget it
[09:58] <djm62> BooZee: I don't honestly know
[09:58] <BooZee> o.k.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> _jason, it was changed to firefox1.5
[09:59] <_jason> trappist, so the online database is updated daily maybe?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> !firefox1.5
[09:59] <ubotu> firefox1.5 is probably see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[09:59] <trappist> _jason: I don't know anything about the online database
[09:59] <_jason> gnomefreak, i know it's just bugging me that it's in the database but he doesn't know it :/
[10:00] <stratovarius> when I turn my pc on ubuntu says me [4294696.242000] "hda: timeout waiting for DMA" [4294696.242000]  drive not rady for command. what is this error and how to solve it?pls help me
[10:00] <trappist> _jason: where's the online database
[10:00] <_jason> trappist, http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[10:00] <gnomefreak> _jason, if you mean the command for ubotu changed than more than likely someone changed it and it can be for different reasons
[10:01] <trappist> stratovarius: probably either your drive doesn't support dma or ubuntu is trying too soon to turn it on.  try to turn it on your self: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[10:01] <stefan_> hallo??
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> Mollo
[10:02] <gnomefreak> _jason, you would need to ask hobbee it looks like he was last to add firefox1.5 and im netting when he added it he cancelled your command
[10:02] <stefan_> Berlin lsst Gren...
[10:02] <djm62> quick Q: where should I set my dvd drive to be dma on boot?
[10:02] <gimmulf> getting this when trying to start gnucash:   Fatal Error: gnucash_style_set_register...(): Cannot load fallback font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*   plz help
[10:02] <_jason> gnomefreak, oh no it's cool, I was jsut trying to udnerstand how the database works since it appears there but he doesn't know it
[10:03] <stefan_> hello from berlin....
[10:03] <gnomefreak> the person that added the new command got rid of old command so there was no confusion
[10:03] <ctcecil> hi all, i recently wiped out my ubuntu partition because i set it up on its own box, and now i cant boot windows because it gives a grub error, how can i fix this without wiping my whole HD out and having to reinstall windws
[10:03] <trappist> djm62: /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:03] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i am tryin to compile a software it needs flex sudo apt-get install flex not found
[10:04] <psusi> ctcecil: boot into the winxp recovery console from the install cd and run the FIXMBR command
[10:04] <ctcecil> matric-ubuntu-c use sudo apt-cache search flex
[10:04] <ctcecil> psusi> thanks.
[10:04] <jvai> box has 512mgs of ram right?
[10:04] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, flex is in the repository for sue
[10:04] <blue-frog> sure
[10:04] <_jason> !flex
[10:04] <ubotu> _jason: I give up, what is it?
[10:04] <_jason> !info flex
[10:04] <ubotu> flex: (A fast lexical analyzer generator.), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.5.31-31 (breezy), Packaged size: 250 kB, Installed size: 764 kB
[10:05] <gnomefreak> blue-frog,  what repo is it in? universe?
[10:05] <matrix-ubuntu-c> so how do i install flex
[10:05] <ctcecil> psusi: thanks alot, i was really close to reinstalling a fresh windows install
[10:06] <ctcecil> matric-ubuntu-c use sudo apt-cache search flex
[10:06] <_jason> matrix-ubuntu-c, it should be in the main repo apparently
[10:06] <dholbach> sudo apt-get install flex, or search for it in synaptic and install it
[10:06] <gnomefreak> matrix-ubuntu-c,  if you open synaptic and search for it if its in the repos you have enabled it will show up
[10:06] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sorry i am new to ubuntu but i am programmer where is synaptic
[10:07] <gnomefreak> system>admin>synaptic
[10:07] <cooper> how come i cant play mp3's on ubuntu?
[10:07] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, gnomefreak flex in normal ubuntu repo.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ok ty blue-frog
[10:07] <djm62> cooper: because the owner of the mp3 format is unco-operative
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cooper  about mp3
[10:07] <cooper> soo .. i cant play mp3's at all
[10:08] <gnomefreak> cooper,  read the pb ubotu sent you
[10:08] <gnomefreak> pm*
[10:08] <matrix-ubuntu-c> flex is not there on synaptic sir
[10:09] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[10:09] <_jason> matrix-ubuntu-c, you're using breezy?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> thats what i was gonna ask :)
[10:09] <Seveas> matrix-ubuntu-c, nonsense - it is
[10:09] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what is breezy
[10:09] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[10:10] <gnomefreak> 5.04=hoary
[10:10] <matrix-ubuntu-c> well i donnt see flex on those packages
[10:10] <djm62> time again to ask: can anyone help me get my generic usb-mass-storage mp3 player recognised by gnome?  I can mount it manually as vfat, but in hoary it automounted, which was much better.  error in gnome is http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tbe5xK25.html
[10:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy. I like the newer version more.
[10:10] <ctcecil> psusi> whats a good windows ssh client besides putty, it seems to not want to run for me, erroring about bsd configuration ewverytime i download it
[10:10] <funkyHat> NoobieDoobieDo, good
[10:10] <funkyHat> ;)
[10:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> =)
[10:11] <gnomefreak> im looking aqt packages.ubuntu
[10:11] <_jason> ctcecil, I think secureCRT works
[10:11] <ctcecil> _jason isnt it shareware?
[10:11] <matrix-ubuntu-c> anyone who can help me to install flex or no
[10:11] <djm62> matrix-ubuntu-c: they are trying...you have a strange problem if apt won't install it
[10:11] <djm62> matrix-ubuntu-c: which may cause other problems
[10:12] <gnomefreak> flex2.5.31 is in the main repo for breezy
[10:12] <_jason> ctcecil, haven't used windows in a long time, but yes it appears it is shareware
[10:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo apt-get install flex
[10:12] <gnomefreak> matrix-ubuntu-c, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:12] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, sudo apt-get update
[10:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> can you upload somewhere that file so i an downlload and start my programming
[10:13] <gnomefreak> flex is a text editor?
[10:13] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nope this is a file for for programmin under GNU
[10:13] <MikeStyle> hi all, i just got a new sources.list file from a friend that worked for him under the same distro... but its not working for me and its giving me a cdrom error
[10:13] <ctcecil> matrix-ubuntu-c: hmm? are you using ubuntu universe
[10:13] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, and i just installed it now...
[10:13] <tharihar> hey im trying to get a few things using aptitude install
[10:13] <netcrusher88> does ubuntu have atmel chipset driver support built-in?
[10:14] <B_166-ER-X> derrickw i've try all that i know... i have all the good kernels, and modules..and restricted ones. i have nvidia-glx and -settings, reinstalled, i doublechecked everything, reboot...then : black screen, have to go back change the 'driver' from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[10:14] <tharihar> it keeps telling me to put in the CD
[10:14] <gimmulf> getting this when trying to start gnucash:   Fatal Error: gnucash_style_set_register...(): Cannot load fallback font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*   plz help
[10:14] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how did u install it blue-frog
[10:14] <tharihar> anyway around it
[10:14] <Jowi> Seveas: I just wanted someone to know that it is now possible to have DRI for cle266 (via epia chipset) with 2.6.12 + patch in ubuntu. I downloaded kernel source and patch from here http://epialinux.org/drivers.html , patched the kernel, ran make gconfig and selected the valid options, make, make modules_install, and installed the bzImage. I get flawless dri in X for the first time ever (have tried for 2 years). In case someone want to
[10:14] <Jowi> make one available in the repos... oh, and a nice side effect; boot time improved from 65 to 35 secs!
[10:14] <tharihar> ??
[10:14] <tharihar> i dont have the CD
[10:14] <MikeStyle> hi all, i just got a new sources.list file from a friend that worked for him under the same distro... but its not working for me and its giving me a cdrom error
[10:14] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, apt-get install flex
[10:14] <B_166-ER-X> the weird is, I DID Make it work under hoary, and a previous install of breezy..
[10:14] <gnomefreak> matrix-ubuntu-c, if you are using ubuntu 5.10 it is in synaptic
[10:14] <LjL> Jowi: you could add this information to the Wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, the way it is supposed to be installed...
[10:15] <djm62> MikeStyle: are there lines in it referring to cdrom?
[10:15] <MikeStyle> djm62 yes, the first line
[10:15] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, but now indeed i have apt-proxy on, could be unavailable from main repo for unknown reason eventually..
[10:15] <natdigga> man...Sevasas left....can someone tell ubuntu me about ATI drivers?
[10:15] <natdigga> plz
[10:15] <netcrusher88> is an atmel driver included with ubuntu by default?
[10:15] <netcrusher88> !ati
[10:15] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:15] <trappist> Jowi: that definitely calls for a wiki page
[10:15] <djm62> MikeStyle: you could comment out that line... (put a # mark at the front)
[10:16] <natdigga> sweet thanks net
[10:16] <netcrusher88> np
[10:16] <blue-frog> matrix-ubuntu-c, so ask someone to install it to make sure...
[10:16] <MikeStyle> djm62 but after i do that it wont let me download certain files from synaptic
[10:16] <aptloverg> could some one tell me how to get suport for sillicon image onbord raid chips?
[10:16] <MikeStyle> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:16] <MikeStyle> bbl
[10:17] <Jowi> LjL, trappist: I should be able to handle it... Need to create an account first and do a step by step walkthrough probably... would take a while
[10:17] <Padre> is there an init services gui similar to the one in FC?
[10:17] <aptloverg> I have 3114 raid chip and I have found redhat and Suse drivers on ther website
[10:17] <aptloverg> but no debian ones
[10:17] <worldmaster0> bye ppls
[10:18] <LjL> Jowi: you need to create an account, yes. but then if you don't feel like writing a very complete walkthrough, you could just just draft it, and someone will hopefully refine it. that's what wikis are for after all
[10:18] <aptloverg> but they are out of beta now so im hoping i'll get suport in ubuntu
[10:18] <aptloverg> !repos
[10:18] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:18] <djm62> rukuartic: you might mean gkrellm
[10:19] <B_166-ER-X> big problem here pleassse, i'm at it since a few days, but i'm about to explode and go back to windows 3.1 or something.  :  i cannot install my geforce 2 drivers under breezy, i have a k7 kernel (but it didnt work when it was 386 either)   when i do the nividia config enable, and reboot, black screen... i have to change the 'driver'  frome 'nvidia' to 'nv' in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and i' completely out of options here..
[10:19] <firewire> can anyone help me??
[10:19] <Jowi> LjL, yeah. Good idea. I start on it tomorrow :)
[10:19] <cooper> ok ive tried that mp3 thingy to enable the repositries thing .. and then typed that link the the terminal but it doesnt work
[10:19] <cedric_> wich repot should i install to play .mpg VIDEO and .mp3... i hate w32codecs
[10:20] <gnomefreak> firewire we dont know your issue yet
[10:20] <aptloverg> anyone know anything about raid drivers?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> !raid
[10:20] <ubotu> I guess raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[10:20] <aptloverg> cool
[10:20] <aptloverg> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:20] <rukuartic> djm62: Thats it... You are my hero
[10:20] <gnomefreak> aptloverg, yw
[10:20] <B_166-ER-X> !nividia_totally_fucked_up_drivers_or_something_else
[10:20] <ubotu> B_166-ER-X: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:20] <rukuartic> djm62: I've been searching for that forEVER.
[10:21] <gnomefreak> !nividia
[10:21] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I don't know
[10:21] <Jowi> !nvidia
[10:21] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu yes you do :(
[10:21] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gnomefreak
[10:21] <Jowi> :)
[10:21] <gnomefreak> ty Jowi i cant spell it
[10:22] <gnomefreak> i was using his spelling :(
[10:22] <B_166-ER-X> i cannot understand WHYYYYYYY my ubuntu wont accept my nvidia driver
[10:22] <xychix> has anyone a apt-get sources.list entry where i can get tools like hydra ? password cracker etc ?
[10:22] <B_166-ER-X> going nut her
[10:22] <B_166-ER-X> e
[10:22] <trappist> rukuartic: what just happened?
[10:22] <cooper> what was the site for the mp3 thingy again
[10:22] <cooper> ive lost it
[10:22] <aptloverg> gnomefreak: hmm page is empty :(
[10:22] <Jowi> !mp3
[10:22] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[10:23] <Jowi> oh well, got to go. take care all!
[10:23] <djm62> should start an mp3 countdown...how long before it's a commodity?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> aptloverg, im sorry maybe updating it?
[10:23] <cion> hey all how do i clean system from temp and log files?
[10:23] <aptloverg> gnomefreak: ill try archive.org ;)
[10:24] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Have you tried doing, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and if so, did it detect your geforce 2 correctly?
[10:24] <xychix> can i add the debian apt-sources ???? or wil it fuck up me system  ???????
[10:24] <idiot> does anyone here have a dell inspiron 6000 w/ wxga
[10:24] <Seveas> xychix, it'll fuck up
[10:24] <rob_p> xychix:  It'll mess things up.
[10:24] <Seveas> besides all that's in debian is in Ubuntu
[10:25] <gnomefreak> it alwasy does when you try to cross distro you sources :(
[10:25] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, try reading the section "hardware" in ubuntu's user guide
[10:25] <B_166-ER-X> rob_p it ask me the driver... for now its on 'nv' do i put nvidia or ?
[10:25] <xychix> Seveas: i need tools like hydra and i KNOW there are deb files
[10:25] <cion> hey all how do i clean system from temp and log files?
[10:25] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, its the easier way to install nvidia
[10:25] <B_166-ER-X> NuKe,  thats one of my other problem, i dont have this guide, and dont know why, weird bug
[10:25] <Seveas> xychix, are these in 3rd party repositories?
[10:25] <xychix> Seveas: i guess so
[10:26] <Seveas> xychix, apt-get -b source them :)
[10:26] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, open a chat betwen us so i copy and paste the contents to you
[10:26] <Kinnison> Hi, anyone happen to know where I can grab a breezy amd64 netinst CD image from?
[10:26] <NoobieDoobieDo> Delete the contents of /var/log and /tmp as root ?
[10:26] <xychix> Seveas: i just found a .deb file... but i'd like a bigger repository than universe... is that possible ?
[10:26] <Leiv> can I use screen in a script that starts a command, and then let cron run that script, so that I can check the output from that command later?
[10:26] <Leiv> I want cron to run this script:
[10:26] <Leiv> #!/bin/sh
[10:26] <Leiv> #if i put 'screen ' before next line it doesnt start as cron job
[10:26] <Leiv> btlaunchmany /media/hdd5/share
[10:26] <Seveas> you can try 3rd party repos, but ni guarantee
[10:26] <B_166-ER-X> as you see, yelp, is another of my problems http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AhiS3y62.html
[10:27] <trappist> Leiv: you can't run screen in a cron job like that
[10:27] <Seveas> Leiv, screen wants to be connected to a real terminal
[10:27] <dadde> how do i get the undrar utility?
[10:27] <B_166-ER-X> NuKe,  if you are not registered you cannot open pv's
[10:27] <Seveas> dadde, enable multiverse
[10:27] <xychix> Seveas: i need a repository without kernel stuff iguess... just tools
[10:27] <dadde> how?
[10:27] <MikeStyle> hi all, i just got a new sources.list file from a friend that worked for him under the same distro... but its not working for me and its giving me a cdrom error
[10:27] <MikeStyle> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:27] <dadde> Serveas, how?
[10:27] <djm62> MikeStyle: you asked that earlier...what is the CDrom error?
[10:27] <hamilton> i upgraded dapper and lost all sound, anyone else have this problem?
[10:28] <NoobieDoobieDo> MikeStyle, Do you have the Breezy Badger CD ?
[10:28] <Leiv> so I can't get the output from a job started from cron then?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  comment out the cdrom repo at top of sources list
[10:28] <tomz> dadde; look at the "get started guide"
[10:28] <B_166-ER-X> in the xserver-xorg reconfiguring, do i chose nvidia or nv ?  ,its 'nv' by default
[10:28] <Seveas> MikeStyle, remove that line
[10:28] <B_166-ER-X> but i wan nvidia
[10:28] <simon__> Hi got an new install of Breezy on AMD64 and apt-get wont install certain packages. for instance apt-get install dvb-utils returns "couldn't find package" . Do I have to add to the default sources list?
[10:28] <dadde> tomz, thanks
[10:28] <Techie_dude> is there a way to use tgz files in Breezy?
[10:28] <maruchan> i havent gotten an anser but.. how do i make azures show up the system tray
[10:28] <gnomefreak> tgz files need to be compiled
[10:28] <xychix> Seveas: i'll just try and build this tools from source :)
[10:28] <MikeStyle> if i remove/uncomment the line it gives me another wierd error while trying to install something from synapticx
[10:28] <mirak> gnome file selector never remember wich directory where opened, that's very annoying
[10:29] <Techie_dude> how do you make them complie
[10:29] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, after removing it do sudo apt-get update
[10:29] <NoobieDoobieDo> marcels, It should be in Azureus options. Do you have the system tray already ?
[10:29] <djm62> MikeStyle: when you alter that file, do you run apt-get update ?
[10:29] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak ok
[10:29] <maruchan> yes
[10:29] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, write "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[10:29] <xychix> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10:29] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  If you want the nvidia driver, then yes.  You want nvidia.
[10:29] <B_166-ER-X> k
[10:29] <xychix> lol no option
[10:29] <NoobieDoobieDo> maruchan, In that case somewhere inside the program options you should have the ability to enable it.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> !source
[10:29] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, also, comment the lines Load DRI and Load GLCore by putting an # in front of them
[10:29] <ubotu> from memory, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[10:29] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  What do you have for, "Identifier" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[10:30] <tomz> anyone know what command you should write in launch options, if you dont want that extra window when you open aterm? ( aterm -dontopenthatscreen!!!)
[10:30] <maruchan> do you know were in the options
[10:30] <NoobieDoobieDo> No
[10:30] <Techie_dude> how do you make the tgz comply
[10:30] <Seveas> tomz, man aterm
[10:30] <tomz> WHat?
[10:30] <tomz> What?
[10:30] <maruchan> i found it
[10:30] <mirak> mlview crashes
[10:30] <maruchan> thank you
[10:30] <mirak> what a crap
[10:30] <cooper> mp3!
[10:30] <cooper> !mp3
[10:30] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[10:30] <NoobieDoobieDo> maruchan, But I'm about to install it now.
[10:30] <gnomefreak> Techie_dude,  you dont make it compile you compile it and its not all that easy well it wasnt for me atleast
[10:30] <B_166-ER-X> rob_p Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] "
[10:30] <hamilton> simon__: you need to enable the universe repository
[10:31] <anavim> very weird, gnome-theme-manager wouldn't run for two days and now it runs
[10:31] <sklav> Hi Guys
[10:31] <Techie_dude> then how do you do it
[10:31] <tomz> What, Seveas?
[10:31] <gimmulf> Hi, im getting theese errors when trying to start Gnucash: Fatal Error: gnucash_style_set_register...(): Cannot load fallback font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*    Im running it on a Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 Amd64 system... Isnt the xfonts-base package working well on amd64 system?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> most things that have a tgz are availble without the tgz
[10:31] <Seveas> anavim, it probably was on strike
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Techie_dude,  what are you trying to install?
[10:31] <MikeStyle> i did apt-get update after commenting out the line
[10:31] <MikeStyle> this is what i got while trying to install something
[10:31] <gnomefreak> and MikeStyle ?
[10:31] <MikeStyle> k3blibs-dev:
[10:31] <MikeStyle>   Depends: k3blibs (=0.12.2-0ubuntu2) but 0.12.7-1ubuntu1~breezy1 is to be installed
[10:31] <gimmulf> How do i get helvetica?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  ok
[10:31] <ProN00b> wtf ?
[10:31] <Seveas> MikeStyle, scrap backports or forget it
[10:31] <ProN00b> slowness ?
[10:32] <anavim> Seveas, probably, since I switched to fluxbox  :D
[10:32] <ProN00b> where is firefox 1.5 ?!?!
[10:32] <MikeStyle> scrap backports?
[10:32] <Seveas> ProN00b, /topic
[10:32] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, what am i to do?
[10:32] <Stormx2> Hiya
[10:32] <foampeace> what happen to this chan a while ago. i was banned
[10:32] <gnomefreak> firefox 1.5 is at firefox
[10:32] <MikeStyle> getfirefox.com
[10:32] <MikeStyle> duh
[10:32] <ProN00b> dapper ?
[10:32] <ProN00b> whats that ?!
[10:32] <foampeace> is 1.5releases?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  why are you trying to get the dev file why not just the regular file?
[10:32] <idiot> How come when I burn DVD's I can burn them @ 16X like regular but it fails to actually burn @ 16x, it burns at about 3X
[10:32] <anavim> foampeace, yes
[10:33] <pv_> ProN00b, next version of ubuntu
[10:33] <sklav> MikeStyle, comment out the 2 line that refer to multiverse
[10:33] <Seveas> ProN00b, Breezy is *STABLE* and will not have new versions
[10:33] <ProN00b> what the FUCK
[10:33] <ProN00b> why !!!
[10:33] <MikeStyle> foampeace, the latest version is 1.7 i think
[10:33] <Seveas> watch your language
[10:33] <sklav> ProN00b, just download it
[10:33] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, i got this list from a friend
[10:33] <foampeace> arent i using 1.07?
[10:33] <Seveas> foampeace, breezy uses 1.07
[10:34] <Seveas> and 1.5 is not that much different
[10:34] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, i have the file itself downloaded but when i updated after the new list it removed the dev and mp3 file
[10:34] <Rawplayer> SI
[10:34] <Seveas> I don't see the need to upgrade
[10:34] <Techie_dude> thgere wont be new versions of ubuntu?
[10:34] <sklav> and latest is 1.5 if not mistaken was released yesterday
[10:34] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  the lib xxx-dev are development files do you need the source code for k3b for any reason?
[10:34] <Seveas> sklav, indeed
[10:34] <Seveas> Techie_dude, yes there will
[10:34] <gnomefreak> sklav, yes but not for breezy
[10:34] <Seveas> but breezy will not have newer versions of the software that is in it
[10:34] <sklav> i know
[10:34] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, this happens with other things as well. i just want to fix my sources.list to work
[10:34] <Seveas> that's what we call stable...
[10:35] <sklav> and to be honest im waiting for the next release of links or elinks hehe
[10:35] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  use pastebin and paste me your sources list
[10:35] <sklav> im always working remotely
[10:35] <Seveas> sklav, ;)
[10:35] <gimmulf> How do i start this from terminal? : "System" --> "Preferences" --> "Font"
[10:35] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak
[10:35] <MikeStyle> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5245
[10:36] <sklav> font refers to prog if your able to right click on properties than you should be able to see what command is called
[10:36] <sklav> font refers to a prog if your able to right click on properties than you should be able to see what command is called
[10:36] <KasperTech> How do I stop the IPW2200 from getting "firmware error" and thereby cutting me off the internet??
[10:37] <gnomefreak> mike the mirrormax backports at bonttom of list need to be removed
[10:37] <trappist> KasperTech: it needs a firmware upgrade
[10:37] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,
[10:37] <hamilton> idiot: try using hdparm
[10:37] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, the last 3 lines of your sources list need to be removed
[10:37] <sklav> MikeStyle, put a # in front of the line gnomefreak mentionned
[10:37] <idiot> hamilton my DVDRW is 16x...
[10:37] <KasperTech> trappist, how do I do that?
[10:37] <idiot> and I can burn 16x in windows
[10:37] <idiot> but in Linux I can choose it but it only burns @ 3x
[10:37] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak why?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> because mirrormax backports have been taken down
[10:38] <siorai> okay a few moments ago
[10:38] <foampeace> why do i get no sound from the mplayerplugin?
[10:38] <dadde> I still cant find anything when i search for unrar after modifing the sources.list?
[10:38] <trappist> KasperTech: dunno, I've never done it.  a guy I work with had the same problem though and a firmware upgrade fixed it.  oh, that and downloading the new drivers from intel.
[10:38] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak
[10:38] <sklav> dadde, unrar is not there
[10:38] <siorai> I came up off the screen saver, typed in my pass, and bam, comp just restarted, just like that
[10:38] <MikeStyle> will that get rid of all my errors?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,
[10:38] <sklav> i get the same issue
[10:38] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  it should
[10:38] <sklav> when installing mailscanner
[10:38] <MikeStyle> okay thanks gnomefreak
[10:38] <KasperTech> trappist, so what do you think I should do :o?
[10:38] <dadde> sklav where is it then?
[10:38] <sklav> ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  try one more thing please
[10:38] <sklav> i dont know
[10:39] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak
[10:39] <MikeStyle> okay
[10:39] <sklav> it might have been removed
[10:39] <idiot> How come I can burn 16x in Windows on DVD-R, but in Linux it gives me the option to burn @ 16x but only burns at 1.00-3.50 it ranges back and forth.
[10:39] <matrix-ubuntu-c> why when i do sudo gedit nothinghappens when i do gedit it opens
[10:39] <hamilton> idiot: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/<hdc> # depending on what device the dvd is
[10:39] <sklav> dadde, i know there is a version in the mutliverse
[10:39] <aedes> matrix-ubuntu-c, I'm having the same problem
[10:39] <NoobieDoobieDo> idiot, Do a google search like this : "Your version of linux" + "Your cdrom drive"
[10:39] <netcrusher88> are there any special packages needed/reccommended for laptops, specifically old compaq laptops?
[10:39] <sklav> unrar-nonfree
[10:39] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, while in the sources list take out the us. from the repos so it reads like deb-http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <dadde> ok
[10:39] <idiot> /dev/hda:
[10:39] <idiot>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[10:39] <idiot>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[10:40] <hamilton> idiot: that speeds things up for me, but there could be other issues
[10:40] <yhcheong> hamilton, you from new zealand?
[10:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i open gedit so i can edit files
[10:40] <hamilton> no
[10:40] <dadde> sklav, how do i find it?
[10:40] <madtrill> can anyone help with X and ssh?
[10:40] <Techie_dude> does ubuntu come with KDE installed into the system.....just not on the desktop?
[10:40] <aedes> matrix-ubuntu-c, I think its a bug in sudo
[10:40] <yhcheong> where you from?
[10:40] <yhcheong> nick seems from new zealand
[10:40] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak; i have no idea what you mean. where in the list file
[10:40] <yhcheong> :P
[10:40] <sklav> after uncommenting mutliverse run apt-get update
[10:40] <siorai> netcrusher88, I'm on a recent Fujitsu notebook and everything worked fine, inculding my hotkeys on my usb keyboard I have plugged into it
[10:40] <netcrusher88> kk thanks
[10:40] <gnomefreak> Techie_dude, ubuntu comes with gnome kubuntu comes with kde but both can be installed
[10:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> so how to edit files
[10:40] <aedes> matrix-ubuntu-c, you want to open and edit root owned files?
[10:40] <sklav> and then tun apt-cache search rar
[10:40] <netcrusher88> !kubuntu
[10:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[10:40] <heroicraptor> what command launches the gnome gui from the command prompt?
[10:40] <gib8> hi
[10:40] <sklav> it should list all files with rar in there
[10:41] <gimmulf> Cuold someone help me install Helvetica font? seems like impossible
[10:41] <gnomefreak> gedit <file path>
[10:41] <yhcheong> can i change from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:41] <NoobieDoobieDo> heroicraptor, gdm (as root), or startx
[10:41] <sklav> gimmulf, install mstruetype fonts
[10:41] <wdh> henriquemaia, 'sudo gdm'
[10:41] <Techie_dude> just curious
[10:41] <gimmulf> sklav:  i did
[10:41] <yhcheong> by using the apt-get
[10:41] <wdh> s/ henriquemaia / heroicraptor
[10:41] <heroicraptor> noobiedoobiedo, thanks
[10:41] <yhcheong> ?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> yhcheong,  you can install kubuntu desktop with ubuntu
[10:41] <yhcheong> by how?
[10:41] <wdh> heroicraptor, 'sudo gdm'
[10:41] <Techie_dude> is there like a program i can get that will let me use tgz files
[10:41] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <yhcheong> i just want the kubuntu GUI
[10:42] <NuKe> yhcheong, i believe you can install KDE using synaptic without problems
[10:42] <aedes> is anyone having problems mounting the floopy from the gui?  I installed daper's pmount (which was suposed to have fixed some problems), but it looks like now I have to be a member of plugdev
[10:42] <matrix-ubuntu-c> why does not gedit works
[10:42] <matrix-ubuntu-c> helllooooooooooo
[10:42] <yhcheong> how long it takes?
[10:42] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak?
[10:42] <sklav> i believe there is defoma for that
[10:42] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop=meta package kde=base
[10:42] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,
[10:42] <NoobieDoobieDo> yhcheong, It'd be best to install the kubuntu package and remove the ubuntu desktop.
[10:42] <MikeStyle>  i have no idea what you mean. where in the list file
[10:42] <crsd> matrix-ubuntu-c: use vi :)
[10:42] <sklav> defoma-reconfigure but ask someone with a better idea
[10:43] <NoobieDoobieDo> yhcheong, Otherwise you end up with a lot of menu items.
[10:43] <aedes> matrix-ubuntu-c, try logging in as root in a terminal and using the gedit command without the sudo
[10:43] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, did you open the cources.list file to edit it?
[10:43] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak yes
[10:43] <yhcheong> i should install first
[10:43] <yhcheong> or remove ubuntu?
[10:43] <NuKe> yhcheong, install they both so you can test which one is more suitable for you needs
[10:43] <yhcheong> cool
[10:43] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  at the very bottom of that list do you see the mirrormax backports  they are last 3 lines
[10:44] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak i removed those like you said
[10:44] <MikeStyle> now what?
[10:44] <sklav> gimmulf, also try dpkg-reconfigure mstrutypefont
[10:44] <NoobieDoobieDo> yhcheong, Install Kubuntu first. Then remove the Gnome desktop.
[10:44] <sklav> that should fix it since most stuff in debian is transparent
[10:44] <yhcheong> i facing problem
[10:44] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  if you look at the sources you will see deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:44] <NoobieDoobieDo> yhcheong, If you search on google for something like, "Ubuntu install Kubuntu" you'll find something
[10:44] <yhcheong> where should i paste the text?
[10:44] <Techie_dude> is there a program that will allow me to use tgz files
[10:45] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Any luck yet?
[10:45] <MikeStyle> yes
[10:45] <cion> hey all how do i clean system from temp and log files?
[10:45] <MikeStyle> i remove those gnomefreak?
[10:45] <Techie_dude> wwhat si the program
[10:45] <sklav> Techie_dude, tar will allow
[10:45] <yhcheong> couldn't install
[10:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> yhcheong, Why ?
[10:45] <sklav> just use tar zxvf package.tgz
[10:45] <Techie_dude> what?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, take just the us and the dot out of them ok?
[10:45] <yhcheong> i don't know
[10:45] <NuKe> yhcheong, install kubuntu, if you really like it more than gnome, remove gnome
[10:45] <yhcheong> where should i paste the text file?
[10:45] <MikeStyle> ok thanks gnomefreak
[10:45] <gimmulf> sklav:  Package `mstrutypefont' is not installed and no info is available.   correct name for it?
[10:45] <gimmulf> tried true also
[10:46] <sklav> let me check
[10:46] <Techie_dude> so tar is a program
[10:46] <anavim> gimmulf, msttcorefonts  maybe?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  after you do that save than close than apt-get update
[10:46] <sklav> gimmulf, let me check 2 seconds
[10:46] <B_166-ER-X> ok, the term 'BERSERK' will soon apply to me... : after all you said to try, i still have a black screen after rebooting (after the nvidia config enable)  , i DID the dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg , and all,  but if in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  'driver' is the 'nvidia' instead of 'nv'       = Blackscreen..
[10:46] <sklav> there is your answer ;)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> tar=source code file
[10:46] <MikeStyle> okay thnank
[10:46] <MikeStyle> s
[10:46] <Techie_dude> ahh...so they work
[10:46] <yhcheong> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[10:46] <B_166-ER-X> i need more than serious help...
[10:46] <sklav> gimmulf, try 'dpkg-reconfigure  msttcorefonts'
[10:46] <B_166-ER-X> 'please' is a small word.
[10:46] <gimmulf> sklav:  seemed to work but got a warning: warning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory
[10:46] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, man
[10:46] <gimmulf> These fonts were provided by Microsoft "in the interest of cross-
[10:46] <gnomefreak> yhcheong,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:46] <gimmulf> still available from third partiessorry for that awful paste
[10:47] <gimmulf> platform compatibility".  This is no longer the case, but they are
[10:47] <gnomefreak> that is the command
[10:47] <gimmulf> sorry for that awful paste
[10:47] <NuKe> B_166-ER-X, did you instaled nvidia package?
[10:47] <sklav> gimmulf, have you installed server?
[10:47] <sklav> and then installed X and gnome
[10:47] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Does, "tail -n 100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log" give you any clues?
[10:47] <B_166-ER-X> NuKe,  i have the Nvidia-glx and Nividia-settings
[10:47] <gimmulf> sklav:  nope, ubuntu breezy using amd64 cpu
[10:47] <B_166-ER-X> installer and reinstalled.
[10:47] <sklav> i dont know
[10:47] <sklav> seems something did not install correctly
[10:47] <gimmulf> sklav:  im getting this when trying to start gnucash: Fatal Error: gnucash_style_set_register...(): Cannot load fallback font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*
[10:48] <sklav> cause if you have X then you should have truetype fonts
[10:48] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, im still getting installation errors
[10:48] <sklav> gimmulf, is gnucash part of the universe or an add in repo?
[10:48] <B_166-ER-X> rob_p look at it while i am .. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/oDLIJy51.html
[10:48] <gimmulf> sklav:  hmm im not sure how do i find out?
[10:49] <sklav> i would look at truetype fonts
[10:49] <B_166-ER-X> i dont see any hint 'for me' though
[10:49] <sklav> something failed to install but im not that good with X and to be honest im on my way out
[10:50] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, paste your commands and errors at pastebin let me look
[10:50] <sklav> later all
[10:50] <B_166-ER-X> NuKe,  i just dont see what i 'missed'
[10:50] <matrix-ubuntu-c> are there any other gedit programs cause i need to edit file
[10:51] <B_166-ER-X> damn, a GL-headache now,
[10:51] <crsd> gimmulf: it's xfonts-100dpi, just add it's path to your xorg.conf
[10:51] <gnomefreak> theres kedit if your using kde theres also a number of text editors out there
[10:51] <cafuego> There are approximately one million-billion text editors to choose from.
[10:51] <Stormx2> Two million billion actually
[10:51] <K_Dallas> Q: what is the package name to upgrade to a new kernel? thanks
[10:51] <zorba64> yhcheong: can you paste your apt-get results here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:51] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5246
[10:51] <topyli> matrix-ubuntu-c: what sort of editor are you looking for?
[10:52] <cafuego> Stormx2: I deliberately didn't count the windows ones ;-)
[10:52] <gimmulf> crsd:  what would that line look like?
[10:52] <mrkris> hiya, i setup a cvs repository but need cvs diff emails, what do you all use (if any)
[10:52] <anavim> of which vi clones account for roughly 50% of those million-billion
[10:52] <gimmulf> Option "xfonts-100dpi"  ?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, take the cdrom repo out of the sources list save than apt-get update again
[10:53] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak
[10:53] <MikeStyle> ok
[10:53] <crsd> gimmulf: can i pm you? :)
[10:53] <parker> #ubuntu-es
[10:53] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Several lines concern me!  How old is your card?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> vi has so damn many clones its rediculus :(
[10:53] <K_Dallas> is it linux-image-2.6*** ?
[10:53] <gimmulf> crsd:  yes!
[10:53] <Stormx2> parker: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:53] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> coobra, good luck i cant read or speak spanish :(
[10:54] <Stormx2> !seveas
[10:54] <ubotu> somebody said seveas was sexy
[10:54] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5247
[10:54] <aedes> is anyone else having the sudo problems? where sudo asks for a pass and when the correct ne is entered it exits without launching the command?
[10:55] <Stormx2> aedes: No i've never had anything like that. What commands does it apply to?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  thats it no more errors?
[10:55] <Seveas> !forget Seveas
[10:55] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot seveas
[10:55] <Seveas> wtf
[10:55] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, when i go into synaptic and try and install something i get some wierd dependancy error
[10:55] <aedes> stormx2, all that I've tried
[10:55] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, dependancys are what that package depends on to run
[10:55] <BiSK-8> hello
[10:56] <gnomefreak> what package are you trying to install?
[10:56] <K_Dallas> Q: After burning a few DVD coasters, I would seek anyone's take on what to install to get the DVD burner working under ubuntu? cdrecord doesnt support it which is unfortunate (there are some modified cdrecords i dont know which to take), thanks
[10:56] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, then it says the package i need and when i try to isntall that one i get a stranger error about some thing missing in breezy
[10:56] <BiSK-8> i need help: i have antfs formatted usb hdd and i want to transfer files onto it with ubuntu but it wont let me , what can i do?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, what package?
[10:57] <zorba64> K_Dallas: try k3b or gnomebaker
[10:57] <gimmulf> crsd:  there?
[10:57] <jmg> hi guys
[10:57] <K_Dallas> zodium, k3b made those coasters :(
[10:57] <jmg> wtf
[10:57] <jmg> slackers
[10:57] <afabian> K_Dallas, I have yet to do it on Ubuntu, but I almost always use growisofs directly.
[10:57] <K_Dallas> soory, zorba64
[10:57] <chimaera> hi..
[10:57] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, here is the error
[10:57] <MikeStyle> k3blibs-dev:
[10:57] <MikeStyle>   Depends: k3blibs (=0.12.2-0ubuntu2) but 0.12.7-1ubuntu1~breezy1 is to be installed
[10:57] <crsd> gimmulf: yeah, i'll pm you
[10:57] <Seveas> MikeStyle, DO NOT paste in here
[10:57] <K_Dallas> afabian, i will try that then
[10:57] <Seveas> and as I said: drop the backports!
[10:57] <chimaera> i have some problems understanding sudo/su/sudoers mechanisms. i want to allow my user to use several commands w/o pwd (synaptic, if-/iwconfig). if i put them into sudoers, i have to comment  %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL, otherwise i'm still asked for my pwd. but if i comment this, the su doesn't work for systems settings anymore.. any ideas on this?
[10:57] <para> does any one know the system requremests for Ubuntu
[10:57] <MikeStyle> Seveas, it was only 2 lines
 zodium, k3b made those coasters :(
[10:57] <zodium> what
[10:58] <BiSK-8> i need help: i have antfs formatted usb hdd and i want to transfer files onto it with ubuntu but it wont let me , what can i do?
[10:58] <zodium> oh
[10:58] <trappist> MikeStyle: sudo apt-get install k3blibs=0.12.2-0ubuntu2
[10:58] <zodium> nevermind
[10:58] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, again why are you trying to get the -dev file? are you planning on trying to develop your own package?
[10:58] <K_Dallas> zodium, my bad, sorry
[10:58] <Seveas> hi Nafallo :)
[10:58] <dave_> Mark Shuttleworth for World Czar
[10:58] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, sometimes my packages wont work UNLESS i have the dev file
[10:58] <MikeStyle> so i get it for everything
[10:58] <trappist> MikeStyle: that's insanity
[10:58] <zodium> :P
[10:58] <Nafallo> I just rebooted and the brand new boot-system can't find /dev/hda2. what now? ;-)
[10:58] <f3ar> hey all, before i go ahead and install realplayer in breezy...is there anything i should know or use instead of realplayer?
[10:58] <Nafallo> hi Seveas :-)
[10:58] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle,  try to not get it this time also do you have kde installed?
[10:59] <para> does any one know the system requremests for Ubuntu?
[10:59] <K_Dallas> afabian, I cannot find it on my repos?
[10:59] <spola> chimaera, want sudo with no passwd? set timestamp_timeout to -1
[10:59] <Seveas> MikeStyle, I gave you the solution *TWICE* already
[10:59] <Seveas> DROP THE BACKPORTS
[10:59] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, thats beside the point though. something in my sources.list file isnt working BECAUSE, i DO have the libs installed
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Seveas, i told him to drop the mirrormax ones
[10:59] <MikeStyle> Seveas, I DID, READ THE EARLIER CONVO
[10:59] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, k3b needs kde desktop to run
[10:59] <trappist> MikeStyle: did you apt-get update?
[10:59] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak, i AM on kde
[10:59] <sethk> anyone know why acrobat version 7 starts up but dies immediately?  It looks like it flashes an error but it is gone too quickly to see.  Checking to see whether this is a well known problem before I put time into solving it.
[10:59] <MikeStyle> gnomefreak yes
[10:59] <Seveas> MikeStyle, then reinstall the non-backport version of the libs and all you had from backportds
[11:00] <MikeStyle> ...0_o
[11:00] <trappist> 15:58 <trappist> MikeStyle: sudo apt-get install k3blibs=0.12.2-0ubuntu2
[11:00] <chimaera> spola: but this will do the trick for all commands.. i just want three pwdless..
[11:00] <Seveas> you still have the backported one installed
[11:00] <gnomefreak> MikeStyle, yeah what Seveas  said ty Seveas
[11:00] <Seveas> don't use backports if you don't know what you are doing
[11:00] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hi i can not access gedit with sudo gedit
[11:00] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what to do
[11:00] <Myk3> hey guys
[11:01] <sethk> matrix-ubuntu-c, use the full path to gedit
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Seveas, by the way the gconf command doesnt work here with or without sudo
[11:01] <Myk3> i have converted 3 more people for ubuntu
[11:01] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how
[11:01] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo whereis gedit
[11:01] <chimaera> spola: btw, is timestamp_timeout an env-var?
[11:01] <dadde> i have uncommented the lines in sources.list but i still cant find the unrar
[11:02] <K_Dallas> afabian, growisofs - combined mkisofs frontend/DVD recording program. (it is already installed) thanks
[11:02] <gnomefreak> does gconf not work in bash cause i whereis gconf and it gave me 2 paths
[11:02] <matrix-ubuntu-c> where is the path to gedit
[11:02] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hello
[11:03] <dadde> i have uncommented the lines in sources.list but i still cant find the unrar
[11:03] <gnomefreak> matrix-ubuntu-c, type in terminal whereis gedit
[11:03] <Myk3> is there a app for divx/xvid encodeing?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> i dont think whereis needs sudo
[11:03] <trappist> which, not whereis
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i used whereis and worked fine for me :)
[11:04] <gnomefreak> but it did lie its butt off
[11:04] <madtrill> I'll try once more, can anyone help me with ssh?
[11:04] <stevenj> is gmail.com working for anyone here?
[11:04] <trappist> whereis will give you paths to man pages and stuff
[11:04] <matrix-ubuntu-c>  sudo /usr/bin/gedit
[11:04] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nothing happens
[11:04] <trappist> which shows what will be run if you type 'gedit'
[11:04] <gnomefreak> stevenj, it works fine here
[11:05] <rraajj> stevenj: Works for me, too.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> which just gives me a prompt
[11:05] <stevenj> gnomefreak, it works in thunderbird and firefox is displaying - ML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected:
[11:05] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i do sudo get-apt uptdate gedit
[11:06] <matrix-ubuntu-c> maybe it will work
[11:06] <trappist> I can't even parse that question
[11:06] <gnomefreak> stevenj,  have you changed the settings in thunderbird lately?
[11:06] <f3ar> i just downloaded realplayer10gold.rpm from real's website...how can i go about installing it? i did chmod +x then ./realplayer10gold.bin but it said cannot execute binary
[11:06] <anavim> matrix-ubuntu-c, it's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or sudo apt-get install gedit
[11:06] <gnomefreak> stevenj, that looks like the error i got when its not configured right
[11:06] <Myk3> anyone?
[11:07] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Try, "sudo killall gedit; gedit" and see if it opens.
[11:07] <trappist> Myk3: mencoder
[11:07] <Myk3> cool
[11:07] <Myk3> thnx
[11:07] <trappist> rob_p: good thinkin
[11:07] <matrix-ubuntu-c> you are genius rob_p
[11:07] <stevenj> gnomefreak, https://www.google.com/accounts/ will work; however, www.gmail.com will not hmmmm
[11:07] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it worked with that command
[11:07] <Techie_dude> what command would i use to unpack the tar.gz file for camserv
[11:08] <trappist> Techie_dude: tar zxf filename.tar.gz
[11:08] <gnomefreak> that means its down stevenj  try back prolly tomorrow but god only knows
[11:09] <cafuego> gmail.google.com works fine
[11:10] <cafuego> www.gmail.com redirects to a broken XML page.
[11:10] <cafuego> amateurs
[11:10] <Techie_dude> how do i ubpack deb files?
[11:10] <stevenj> gnomefreak, no I can log in to gmail from  https://www.google.com/accounts, then click gmail; however just using www.gmail.com in firefox displays an error...never seen this before
[11:10] <anavim> hmmm... www.gmail.com works for me. as of right now
[11:10] <linkd> cafuego: works fine for moi
[11:10] <cafuego> Techie_dude: Normally you don't, you just install them. 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb'
[11:10] <topyli> www.gmail.com redirects me to google.com/mail and works just fine
[11:11] <gnomefreak> i use thunderchicken for gmail  it is working right now
[11:11] <vegos> what command do i use to install
[11:11] <ruairi> help. samba was working then I changed something, now it isn't! help???
[11:12] <Khaaaaan> hey guys... I am trying to mount a second hard drive using the unofficial guide
[11:12] <Khaaaaan> and I cant get it to show up
[11:12] <stevenj> topyli, yep that must be it...redirect is not working for me...hmmm thanks
[11:12] <Khaaaaan> Can anyone help me??
[11:12] <cafuego> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5248
[11:12] <vegos> is apt-get something right?
[11:12] <cafuego> that's what I get in FF 1.5 rc3
[11:12] <topyli> ruairi: you'll have to unchange it :)
[11:12] <ruairi> khaaaan, how far have you got?
[11:12] <Khaaaaan> Well I have fstab open and edited
[11:13] <Khaaaaan> but it didnt seem to do anything
[11:13] <ruairi> but I cant remember what I did. I think I have unchanged it, but it's still not working
[11:13] <vegos> what is the install command
[11:13] <gnomefreak> apt-get installo
[11:13] <gnomefreak> apt-get install
[11:14] <vegos> so for thunderbird what would it be
[11:14] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i can not save it now
[11:14] <matrix-ubuntu-c> even thought i used that command
[11:14] <matrix-ubuntu-c> robert
[11:14] <ruairi> Khaaaaan can any paart of the system see the presence of the drive, or are you unable to see it's presence?
[11:14] <jmg> cafuego: i would say upgrade to 1.5 final
[11:14] <jmg> but like.. cant
[11:14] <matrix-ubuntu-c> rob_p
[11:14] <stefan_> Hi! I can't print multiple copies of a file on my samba printer from a windows machine.
[11:14] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install mozilla thunderbird maybe or open synaptic and find it there and install it from there
[11:14] <matrix-ubuntu-c> are you there
[11:14] <cafuego> jmg: I'm not fussed, I don't use gmail.
[11:14] <Chousuke> 1.5 rc3 = final
[11:14] <Khaaaaan> I am unable to see its precense... but if I  do a sudo fdisk it comes up
[11:14] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Yes.
[11:15] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i want to save now a file under /usr i get error
[11:15] <Khaaaaan> It comes up as hdb...
[11:15] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Permission denied or similar?
[11:16] <ruairi> good. so it's on your 1st IDE channel then?
[11:16] <matrix-ubuntu-c> yep u can not save the file there
[11:16] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i did that command sudo killall gedit; gedit it opend gedit
[11:16] <ruairi> have you added a device in /dev for it?
[11:17] <marsh> evening all... I'm trying to set up my ubuntu box as a server/gateway (i think) with an xp box as the network... but I'm having problems.
[11:17] <ruairi> have you tried running qparted, see what it says about the formating of the drive
[11:18] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what to do rob_p
[11:18] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  This time, open gedit with sudo in front of it (ex:  sudo gedit).
[11:18] <marsh> Using Firestarter (it's set up to give DHCP adr to the xp box (again, I think), but i can't find any decent guides/howto's using google - can anyone point me to a decent site/noob guide for this?
[11:18] <marsh> ...please....?
[11:18] <afabian> stevenj, may not explain the problem, but I usually go directly to mail.google.com
[11:19] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo gedit it does not open gedit window
[11:19] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  You don't need the killall part every time.  The other time was simply to kill a dead instance of gedit that was keeping new instances from starting.
[11:19] <Khaaaaan> ruairi: How do I do that?
[11:19] <matrix-ubuntu-c> its again same problem sudo gedit it goes back to prompt
[11:20] <marsh> ps... after setting up firestarter & having the XP box set up, firestarter is telling me 0.1Mb has moved on the device, but I can't ping either way... Is this something obvious?
[11:20] <ruairi> KHaaaan: have you got qparted installed? if not install it from the repositories. it's a partition editor
[11:20] <stevenj> afabian, that is what I am doing now...its just I always used  gmail.com and never "paid attention" that it redirects :)
[11:20] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Then do, "sudo killall gedit; sudo gedit" and it will open the editor with root privs.
[11:20] <Khaaaaan> oh yea... when I do a sudo mount -a, it says that the drive is already mounted or "busy"
[11:20] <Khaaaaan> ok
[11:21] <B_166-ER-X> rob_p   i'm back, if you said anything..or noticed anything in the file i showed you
[11:21] <anavim> !oml
[11:21] <ubotu> anavim: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:21] <ruairi> ah. that sounds like a good candidate for rebooting, then formatting the drive
[11:21] <Myk3> hey when i start mplayer i get a error
[11:21] <ruairi> is there info on it you need?
[11:21] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Any time you have trouble opening gedit, do a, "ps -A | grep gedit" to see if there are any dead instances.  If there are, then kill them and try again.
[11:21] <Khaaaaan> yes
[11:21] <appletree2> hi@all
[11:21] <Myk3> "New face failed, maybe font path is wrong"
[11:22] <FarrisG> Anyone had any luck installing a 3ware 9550SX raid card under Ubuntu?
[11:22] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Yes.  I noticed a couple of things.  Maybe your card is supported under the older legacy nvidia driver.
[11:22] <B_166-ER-X> urg
[11:22] <ruairi> ok. send the command to unmount it. then reboot and try again
[11:22] <lightbright> when I run clamscan it says: ERROR: Clamd was NOT notified: Can't connect to clamd through /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl.  any fix for this?
[11:22] <Khaaaaan> I thought that by having it in FAT32 I would be able to read it....
[11:22] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ sudo killall gedit; sudo gedit
[11:22] <matrix-ubuntu-c> gedit: ingen process avslutad
[11:22] <bungle> hi all
[11:22] <Khaaaaan> what is the command to u nmount?
[11:22] <B_166-ER-X> thats a maybe, indeed, does the Geforce2 fall under the legacy ?
[11:22] <cafuego> B_166-ER-X: Yes
[11:22] <B_166-ER-X> aaaaaaaaa
[11:22] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ ps -A | grep gedit
[11:22] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$
[11:22] <bungle> umonut no n,  Khaaaaan
[11:23] <B_166-ER-X> thats explain a FEW THINGS.
[11:23] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Not sure.  However, apt has it as, "nvidia-glx-legacy".
[11:23] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[11:23] <cafuego> they _are_ eleventy years old now ;-)
[11:23] <benkong2> anyone got FF 1.5 working on breezy x86_64?
[11:23] <marsh> anyone..? all I want is a pointer to a webpage that can get me moving again???
[11:23] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Anyway, I'd try that driver.
[11:23] <matrix-ubuntu-c> if i reboot will gedit work better
[11:23] <ruairi> FAT32 is fully supported. but I know when I was trying to install the knoppix Distro (before I discovered UBUNTU I had a lot of trouble with mounting partitions, of all filesystems
[11:23] <B_166-ER-X> yeah
[11:23] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  probably not.
[11:23] <bungle> whats the problem marsh ?
[11:24] <B_166-ER-X> i'll come back to you after
[11:24] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[11:24] <ZigZag> Hi! is it possible to change mouse sensitivity beyond what the mouse properties capplet allows you to? I'd like to set mouse sensitivity rediculously low for a school project.
[11:24] <Khaaaaan> ruairi, QTparted shows it np
[11:24] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what to do to fix gedit
[11:24] <Techie_dude> what is a good webcam streaming program other than camserg\v
[11:24] <ruairi> sorry, np?
[11:24] <marsh> cafuego, I bin in google for about 4 hours
[11:24] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i was really happy with this distro ubuntu now this shit gedit not works
[11:24] <cafuego> ZigZag: I'm sure you can probably tweak that in the xorg.conf file in the mouse section.
[11:24] <matrix-ubuntu-c> fuckin hell
[11:25] <Khaaaaan> when I try to unmount it says it isnt mounted
[11:25] <vertz> anyone else having problems with installing nvidia drivers?
[11:25] <ZigZag> cafuego: I would think so too. But I can't seem to find any info about that...
[11:25] <vertz> i just dont get them to work
[11:25] <Khaaaaan> but when I  try to mount it says it is or it is busy.....
[11:25] <Khaaaaan> so odd
[11:25] <marsh> bungle - looking for guide on networking to an xp box.. have been trying for a while, but not getting anywhere... IO did the firestarter setup stuff
[11:25] <lightbright> when I run clamscan it says: ERROR: Clamd was NOT notified: Can't connect to clamd through /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl.  any fix for this?
[11:25] <marsh> but not able to ping either way
[11:26] <marsh> and can't share this connection
[11:26] <Khaaaaan> I've got to be able to do this....
[11:26] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Did it not work this time with sudo?
[11:26] <ruairi> Khaaaaan : have you rebooted?
[11:26] <Khaaaaan> yea...
[11:26] <bungle> sorry cant help you there marsh
[11:26] <Khaaaaan> no dice
[11:26] <atrophic> I have a ralink rt2500 wireless card, it was working great until the computer froze (network-manager appears to have been at fault, it froze when I clicked the applet). After RSEIUBing the wireless card no longer shows up in network-admin/ifconfig/etc, but does show up in device manager. How do I get it back?
[11:26] <marsh> cafuego, so whats the search criteria I';m missing?
[11:26] <Khaaaaan> And no errors
[11:26] <Khaaaaan> it just wont do it
[11:26] <followmearound> why does installing fam make ubuntu want to unistall all of gnome?
[11:26] <followmearound> fam has no conflicts
[11:26] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what to do to fix gedit
[11:26] <marsh> thanks for at least askin' bungle
[11:27] <bungle> no problem
[11:27] <Khaaaaan> oh wait a minute....
[11:27] <Khaaaaan> I think its hdb1... not hdb
[11:28] <Khaaaaan> lets see here...
[11:28] <cafuego> ZigZag: According to the strings in the compiled driver, it accepts "SampleRate" and "Resolution".
[11:28] <ruairi> well of course it'll have a number after it. hdb is the physical drive. Hdb1 is the first partition on the drive
[11:28] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  What does, "ps -A | grep gedit" give you?
[11:29] <Khaaaaan> I DID IT
[11:29] <Khaaaaan> ha ha
[11:29] <Khaaaaan> I love ubuntu
[11:29] <cafuego> marsh: You don't need a firewall, it'll only interfere.
[11:29] <Gryn> Hello... can anyone tell me how to install a tarball?
[11:29] <lightbright> Khaaaaan: relax
[11:29] <Khaaaaan> sorry
[11:29] <Khaaaaan> will do
[11:29] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ ps -A | grep gedit
[11:29] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$
[11:29] <cafuego> marsh: Simply plug both boxes into a hub/switch, tell one to route, done.
[11:29] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nothing
[11:29] <Whtiger> Hello
[11:29] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Ok, so do, "sudo gedit" and tell me if it opens.
[11:29] <Taa5i> Is there a compelling reason one might use Debian for a server vs Ubuntu-server?  All it needs is to be a very basic rsync / backup box.
[11:29] <Khaaaaan> Thanks ruairi fer your help :) !
[11:30] <cafuego> Taa5i: I think so, "stability".
[11:30] <ZigZag> cafuego: isn't that for the display resolution and samplerate?
[11:30] <matrix-ubuntu-c> the promt goes down
[11:30] <Khaaaaan> Hey how do I make Xchat dock in my system tray?
[11:30] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nothing more
[11:30] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it does not oppen
[11:30] <ruairi> Khaaaaan : know anything about Networking?
[11:30] <cafuego> ZigZag: No, they're in the "mouse_drv.o" module.
[11:30] <Khaaaaan> sort of....
[11:30] <Khaaaaan> why do you ask?
[11:30] <Khaaaaan> crap brb
[11:30] <ZigZag> cafuego: ok, thx
[11:31] <lightbright> Khaaaaan: happy birthday :)  I heard you are 11 today ;)
[11:31] <Taa5i> cafuego: Is Ubuntu-server not stable?   I downloaded the Debian businesscard iso, but it didn't seem to support the RAID controller the server ran on [even with the sym53x8xx switch] .  That is it showed up, but reported no partitionable devices.
[11:31] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  What about just, "gedit" at the command prompt?
[11:31] <ruairi> well when I started out yesterday, I was able to brouse other computers on my windows network... out of the box before I started fiddling with settings.
[11:31] <self> hello all
[11:32] <cafuego> Taa5i: It might well be, I just see no reason to migrate my servers away from Debian, which has been stable for longer than Ubuntu exists ;-)
[11:32] <self> How do you get a floppy disk to mount ?
[11:32] <Taa5i> self: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[11:32] <Taa5i> As root.
[11:32] <Taa5i> Well with sudo that is
[11:32] <afabian> Wow.  I solved a 4x4 tetravex is 6.58.  And I was thinking that it would probably be barely doable at all.
[11:32] <ruairi> I dont know what Ive done wrong but I was trying to configure several different things, a bit hap-hazard like, and now I cant see the othere computers on the network, and sometimes they can see this one, but not access it, and other times they cant see it at all
[11:33] <Whtiger> What's the sources.list for 5.10?
[11:33] <Taa5i> cafuego: Fair enough, I'll see if I can't dig up some sources on making Debian work with that controller.  Thanks.
[11:33] <lightbright> Taa5i: whats the command to use rsync to copy direct to a CD-RW or DVD?  is it rsync -avxH /dev/hdc ?
[11:33] <erUSUL> self, Places->Computer-->[Double cLick on floppy] 
[11:33] <rhoffa> they make gnucleus for linux right?
[11:33] <B_166-ER-X> IT WAS that | thanx rob_p and cafeugo , Dang the nvidia drivers....  my geforce 2...under the legacy...arr
[11:33] <lightbright> Taa5i: how do you copy files from hard drive direct to DVD using CLI?
[11:33] <marsh> cafuego, I'm using a crossover... I dont have a hub/switch
[11:33] <pozdiy> hello everybody, I'm an Ubuntu user from today :-) just installed hoary from CD, does it make sense to upgrade to breeze, where to find howto on that?
[11:34] <self> linux says only root can mount
[11:34] <Taa5i> lightbright: I really couldn't tell you, never tried that functionality.  Try searching the forum perhaps.
[11:34] <rhoffa> does anyone know if they make gnucleus for linux?
[11:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ ps -A | grep gedit
[11:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ sudo gedit
[11:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ** (gedit:16459): CRITICAL **: gedit_prefs_manager_get_int: assertion `gedit_prefs_manager->gconf_client != NULL' failed
[11:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ** (gedit:16459): CRITICAL **: gedit_prefs_manager_get_bool: assertion `gedit_prefs_manager->gconf_client != NULL' failed
[11:34] <cafuego> marsh: Still the same thing; plug them in, set one up as router, done.
[11:34] <lightbright> Taa5i: eek
[11:34] <Gryn> Im new to linux and i wanna know how to install tarballs
[11:34] <VooDoo> Firefox 1.5 been released for breezy yet?
[11:34] <lightbright> cafuego: any ideas? :)
[11:34] <erUSUL> matrix-ubuntu-c, do not paste here please
[11:34] <rob_p> B_166-ER-X:  Cool :-)
[11:34] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[11:34] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:34] <cafuego> matrix-ubuntu-c: Please stop pasting that crap into the channel.
[11:34] <Whtiger> Hello again, What's the sources.list for 5.10?
[11:34] <rhoffa> does anyone know if they make gnucleus for linux?
[11:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ok how to fix the problem rob_p
[11:34] <afabian> pozdiy, security updates for 18 months.  If hoary is working for you and you don't feel the need to upgrade for some compelling reason (new version of GNOME, whatever), you could just as well leave it alone.
[11:35] <Taa5i> lightbright: Also, try reading the help for rsync, I believe rsync -a might already cover some of those other options.  Alternately, create an iso and then dd it.
[11:35] <Cody`> !tell backports
[11:35] <erUSUL> lightbright, i do not think is possible to rsync to a dvd directly
[11:35] <bored2k> anyone know why this is happening ? (mplayer related) http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2iKzrF97.html
[11:35] <pozdiy> afabian, thanks, I need it only to run some command line scientific ap-liacations (NAMD and CHARMM if you heard of)
[11:35] <Cody`> Can anyone tell me what the current backports url's are?
[11:35] <budluva> is it possible to mount a .bin / .cue the same way as an iso?
[11:35] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  sudo kill -9 16459
[11:35] <VooDoo> anyone installed vmware with an xp virtual machine?
[11:35] <pozdiy> afabian, but nice updated desktop would not harm
[11:36] <atrophic> how do I get a wireless card that shows up in device manager (and used to work) to show up again in ifconfig?
[11:36] <self> if i click on the floppy in computer it says that the floppy is not a recognised drive
[11:36] <erUSUL> budluva, try converting the image to a iso
[11:36] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$  sudo kill -9 16459
[11:36] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$
[11:36] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Once you do that, try opening gedit again.
[11:36] <budluva> erUSUL, you know a linux app that will do that?
[11:36] <rhoffa> does anyone know the command to install gnucleus?
[11:36] <matrix-ubuntu-c> gedit or sudo gedit
[11:36] <lightbright> Taa5i: i know how to use rsync, my question is, when I use it to copy from hda to hdb i use /mnt as destination!  but i want to copy direct to a CD-RW
[11:36] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Depends.
[11:36] <lightbright> erUSUL: are you 100% certain?
[11:36] <VooDoo> rhoffa: sudo apt-get install gnucleus
[11:36] <afabian> pozdiy, if I were you, I'd make a full backup first.  Sometimes, things don't go so well.  I just mean in general, not that Ubuntu has some spectacular problems.  ;)
[11:36] <erUSUL> budluva, search in synaptic thre is one iirci
[11:36] <matrix-ubuntu-c> gedit works fine
[11:36] <rhoffa> voodoo it didnt work when i trie
[11:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo gedit still same problem
[11:37] <pozdiy> afabian, OK thanks
[11:37] <rob_p> matrix-ubuntu-c:  Are you trying to save/edit a file in a location for which you don't have privs?
[11:37] <lightbright> so my question is: is it possible to use cp or rsync to copy files directly to a CD-RW or blank DVD?
[11:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i can not open sudo gedit at all
[11:37] <rhoffa> voodoo - says cant find gnucleus
[11:37] <budluva> iirci is the name erUSUL ?
[11:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it goes again to the promt
[11:37] <tjpp> what is the difference between breezy-backports and breezy-updates ? I am intending to mirror Breezy..
[11:37] <VooDoo> rhoffa yea just tried it hang on
[11:37] <Taa5i> lightbright: Look up how to enable direct packet writing on a cdr
[11:37] <Taa5i> lightbright: Beyond that, I don't know details.
[11:37] <erUSUL> lightbright, i do not think that linux support that
[11:38] <rhoffa> voodoo ok thanks
[11:38] <Whtiger> I'm trying to update from 5.04.
[11:38] <pozdiy> is it possible to login as root into a shell (without X), for say running dselect there, logging in shell as regular user and then using my "root" password does not work (and it works under X)?
[11:38] <ZekeDude> guyz ... can anyone help me ?
[11:38] <erUSUL> budluva, iirc --> if i recall correctly
[11:38] <lightbright> erUSUL: it does i ws just told in #debian. thanks anyway for your guesswork :)
[11:38] <ZekeDude> i have a problem with ubuntu 5.10
[11:38] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how to get this
[11:39] <budluva> erUSUL, do you recall the name?
[11:39] <matrix-ubuntu-c> shitty gedit to work
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> pozdiy: ?
[11:39] <terraces> hi. I just removed my /etc/init.d/powernowd file. I thaught I could retrieve it with dpkg--reconfigure but it seems I can't. Where can I get one ?
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> !root
[11:39] <ubotu> [root]  rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:39] <ZekeDude> i login and after that i wait 2-3 minute before starting gdm
[11:39] <guru54> how big is a average C compiler? Im on dailup and wondering if i should bother updated my source list
[11:39] <pozdiy> HrdwrBoB, sorry?
[11:39] <robert__> hey all, I'm having an issue with a shared fat32 partition, setup in a dual boot scenario. It's only showing readonly, for my user.
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> pozdiy: your question is not clear
[11:39] <VooDoo> rhoffa: can only find reference to a windowz version
[11:40] <pozdiy> HrdwrBoB, sorry for that, I'll try again
[11:40] <rhoffa> voodoo - what are good p2p programs for linux
[11:40] <rhoffa> i thought it was opensource and linux not just windows
[11:40] <pozdiy> HrdwrBoB, do you agree, thaqt one can log in into GUI, or one can login into nongraphical shell?
[11:40] <VooDoo> rhoffa: i use amule
[11:40] <erUSUL> budluva, http://www.kde-forum.org/post/55148/lastpost.html#post55148 (google)
[11:40] <trappist> it's all about the kmldonkey
[11:41] <rhoffa> voodoo - is it just installed and it works?
[11:41] <Whtiger> aarg hello?
[11:41] <VooDoo> yup, seemed to work for me ok!
[11:41] <rhoffa> or do i have to configure things in the terminal to get it to work
[11:41] <tjpp> what are breezy-backports and breezy-updates ?
[11:41] <VooDoo> rhoffa:  i installed it, it put it in the menu then the rest is gui driven
[11:41] <budluva> erUSUL, ya, im looking at bchunk, bin/cue to .iso :P
[11:42] <cmobrien> How do install smbmount?   I don't have it installed even though samba is in there.
[11:42] <Paradoxium> anyone know why root can't change permissions on a drive?
[11:42] <rhoffa> voodoo - do i need to configure it with custom servers or does it automatically search and find them themselves
[11:42] <LjL> cmobrien: sudo aptitude install smbfs
[11:42] <pder> cmobrien: i think its in the smbfs package
[11:42] <tjpp> Paradoxium, I found it on a corrupted partition
[11:42] <cmobrien> ahh  cool.  thanks so much.
[11:42] <LjL> cmobrien: and use the cifs filesystem, not the smbfs filesystem
[11:43] <pozdiy> what is the root password? how to become root once logging into shell prompt (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and not in X?
[11:43] <cmobrien> cifs
[11:43] <cmobrien> ?
[11:43] <LjL> pozdiy: there is no root password
[11:43] <rhoffa> voodoo - and this is still gnutella, correct?
[11:43] <terraces> noone can drop me his original /etc/init.d/powernowd file ?
[11:43] <LjL> !tell pozdiy about root
[11:43] <erUSUL> tell pozdiy about root
[11:43] <pozdiy> yes, tell me about root ;-)
[11:43] <exiztone> Hey guys, could someone give me a hand? I'm really new to Linux in general and I can't seem to get my Internet working with Linux. I'm trying to connect to my router using DHCP. I can connect to 192.168.1.1 into the configuration thing, but I can't access anything else.
[11:43] <VooDoo> auto searches but you have to initially download a list......but theres a button...go to http://www.amule.org/ then if you decide to install type sudo apt-get install amule
[11:43] <pder> !tell pder about root
[11:43] <exiztone> Could you pm me with any help? :')
[11:44] <ruairi> root is disabled in UBUNTU
[11:44] <VooDoo> not sure read the web site :)
[11:44] <LjL> pder: you can do /msg ubotu root
[11:44] <ruairi> from the console use the comand sudo (superuser do)
[11:44] <LjL> terraces: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5249
[11:44] <Whtiger> u/msg ubotu breezy-backports
[11:44] <Whtiger> whoops
[11:44] <cmobrien> Ljl: t\what does CIFS do?
[11:45] <ruairi> eg: sudo gedit /etc/blablabla.conf
[11:45] <ruairi> it will ask for your password
[11:45] <LjL> cmobrien: nothing special, it's just that smbfs is now obsoleted by cifs
[11:45] <ruairi> type in your user password
[11:45] <pozdiy> thanks guys, sudo seems to work in shell
[11:45] <LjL> cmobrien: you still need the smbfs package installed otoh
[11:45] <erUSUL> exiztone, try 'sudo dhclient'
[11:45] <cmobrien> ahh..   so i should install the CIFS package?
[11:45] <LjL> cmobrien: just mount your shares using "mount -t cifs //server/share /blah" instead of smbmount
[11:45] <ruairi> you need to be the logged in as the first user account created
[11:45] <LjL> cmobrien: no, just install the smbfs package
[11:46] <cmobrien> LjL: thanks so much
[11:46] <afabian> Hmm.  I always thought of it like 'pseudo-su'.
[11:46] <pozdiy> what should I do, in case I need to give root privileges to yet another user?
[11:46] <LjL> pozdiy: add him to the "admin" group
[11:46] <erUSUL> pozdiy, add it to admin group
[11:46] <trappist> pozdiy: sudo visudo
[11:47] <pozdiy> thanks...
[11:47] <afabian> pozdiy, sudo was designed for that kind of thing; you can give fine-grained control to others, if you don't want to give them full root access.
[11:47] <LjL> trappist: i actually think adding it to "admin" would be wiser, as that's the way ubuntu does it by default
[11:47] <Whtiger> I can't find how to update for hoary to breezy. I need to know what my sources.list is supposed to look like. Can anyone help?
[11:47] <Whtiger> from*
[11:47] <pozdiy> afabian, in fact the guy is local deprtamental administraqtor, he will probably not touch my machine at all, but he wants full access to it
[11:47] <trappist> LjL: I like to do it in a more portable way - a way that should have the same effect on any *nix box
[11:47] <LjL> !tell Whtiger about sources
[11:48] <erUSUL> !tell Whtiger about Breezy
[11:48] <VooDoo> Whtiger: just change everything that says hoary to breezy!#
[11:48] <Whtiger> thank you
[11:48] <LjL> trappist: do you need to "port" you /etc/sudoers so very often? ;)
[11:48] <ruairi> pozdiy you can set their user status to have administrator privilages in the "users and groups" dialogue under System > admin > Users and Groups
[11:48] <lightbright> erUSUL: here is the solution: udftools - tools for UDF filesystems and DVD/CD-R(W) drives
[11:48] <lightbright> !  allows copy direct to DVD
[11:48] <ubotu> lightbright: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:48] <trappist> LjL: no, but I find myself on mandrake, redhat, debian, freebsd and solaris boxes often so I try to develop portable habits.
[11:48] <gimmulf> Is there any good videoplayer working for amd64?
[11:48] <LjL> trappist: heh i see
[11:49] <erUSUL> lightbright, nice to know ;)
[11:49] <lightbright> erUSUL: yeah :)
[11:49] <ale3hs> mms://70.84.74.212/sportfm7712 --> opening streams like that, crashes my Rhythmbox (v.0.9.1) ..whats wrong??
[11:49] <pozdiy> when I work in shell (without X) and I log out a screen of my last commands and actions remains for everybody to see, where to add "clear" in the .bash* or other configurations files, so that after logging out it would clean the screen?
[11:49] <ruairi> if you want to not have to type SUDO before every admin command, you can type : sudo -H -s (or something like that. It's all in the help files if you can find it
[11:50] <dholbach> good night ubuntu people
[11:50] <afabian> Using a lot of *NIX systems tends to make you develop portable habits without realizing it, because every time there's a portable way to do something, you find out that you already know how to do it, even if there's another way.
[11:50] <pozdiy> ruairi, thank you, can you recommend me where to find those help files?
[11:50] <coz> Helloo ALl
[11:50] <VooDoo> lo coz
[11:50] <LjL> pozdiy: or just type "sudo -i"
[11:50] <LjL> pozdiy: by the way, the bash question is a good question
[11:50] <aDre|ita> hello
[11:50] <trappist> pozdiy: try echo "clear" >> ~/.bash_logout
[11:50] <coz> Hey guys I , earlier today, download and instll an app named "KDirstat" I am beginning to ik ethi salot .
[11:51] <aDre|ita> may you help me?
[11:51] <coz>  ahve any of you tried this?
[11:51] <pozdiy> LjL, I had the same troubles with my previous linuxes, and I do not remember how the problem is solved
[11:51] <LjL> pozdiy: trappist's solution should definitely work
[11:51] <pozdiy> trappist, should I repeat it for each user on the system
[11:51] <anavim> coz, what happened when you ik ethi salotted?
[11:51] <coz> LOL
[11:51] <erUSUL> pozdiy, .bash_logout
[11:51] <coz> I am sorry my fingers are too big for the keyboard
[11:52] <coz> I lie this alot
[11:52] <coz> like
[11:52] <trappist> pozdiy: there might be something like a /etc/bash_logout that is respected but I don't know about it, so... yes :)
[11:52] <coz> sorry again
[11:52] <coz> Have you used Kdirstat?
[11:52] <dooglus> When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists.
[11:52] <aDre|ita> I've got a problem when I want to install ubuntu :( I think that is a problem with de grafic card because I can't read anything in the first screen of the installation.
[11:52] <LjL> pozdiy: why not add it to /etc/skel
[11:52] <aDre|ita> sorry, I ' m Spanish. I don't know if you understand me
[11:53] <ale3hs> hey guys, I need a program to store radio stations, coz the Rhythmbox crashes when I play mms
[11:53] <dooglus> /etc/bash_logout
[11:53] <dooglus>               The systemwide login shell cleanup file, executed when a login shell exits
[11:53] <trappist> dooglus: yeah we covered that... we were wondering if there's a single file respected for the whole system, like in /etc
[11:53] <pozdiy> .bash_logout works :-)) thanks again guys!
[11:53] <trappist> oh look
[11:53] <trappist> awesome
[11:53] <trappist> you go dooglus
[11:53] <dooglus> trappist: it's all in "man bash" :)
[11:53] <exiztone> Do I have to enable UPnP in my router for it to work with Linux?
[11:53] <gib8> aDre|ita, have u tried the boot commands for framebuffer?
[11:53] <erUSUL> aDre|ita, is a laptop?
[11:53] <tiomo> hi ppl
[11:53] <aDre|ita> yes
[11:53] <aDre|ita> it is a laptop
[11:53] <coz> hello tiomo
[11:53] <erUSUL> aDre|ita, you can try in #ubuntu-es
[11:54] <KasperTech> trappist: I have returned. I've located http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net as a hoster of a "firmimage" (?) and a new driver. Could you help me install it?
[11:54] <pozdiy> LjL, have never seen this skel guy before - is it ubuntu specific? what kind of file should I add there?
[11:54] <aDre|ita> ok, thank very much
[11:54] <tiomo> anyone here has experience installiing files to a palm device under ubuntu via gpilot-install-file?
[11:54] <trappist> dooglus: once a month or so I make up my mind to read that whole man page, but every time I find something cool I didn't know about before and I start playing with it and forget what I was trying to do in the first place :)
[11:54] <coz> Has anyone used Kdirstat
[11:54] <gib8> aDre|ita, try linux vga=741
[11:54] <erUSUL> aDre|ita, try booting with vga=791
[11:54] <gib8> aDre|ita, at boot promt
[11:54] <trappist> KasperTech: I assume it comes with instructions.  I've never done it.
[11:54] <LjL> pozdiy: it's not ubuntu specific. it simply contains the files that get created by default by "adduser" in a user's home directory
[11:54] <gib8> ah yes false number
[11:54] <aDre|ita> what it is promt?
[11:54] <dooglus> trappist: I've never read the whole thing.  But it's quite easy to search, for strings like 'logout' :)
[11:54] <trappist> yeah
[11:55] <pozdiy> LjL, it's empty in my case, what exactly should I add there or what can I read about format of files under /et/skel?
[11:55] <aDre|ita> is it 791 or 741 ?
[11:55] <KasperTech> trappist: it does, but they make no sense at all.
[11:55] <LjL> pozdiy: are you sure it's empty? try "ls -a /etc/skel"
[11:55] <erUSUL> aDre|ita, when you see "boot:" "you write boot: linux vga=791"
[11:55] <aDre|ita> ok
[11:55] <KasperTech> "%make" should be ran as semiroot - an example.
[11:55] <erUSUL> aDre|ita, iirc 791
[11:55] <aDre|ita> I'm writing
[11:55] <rhoffa> has anyone ever had problems with firefox just closing for no reason, mine constantly does it when clicking on links
[11:56] <KasperTech> rhoffa: I have the same problem.
[11:56] <KasperTech> Think it's a bug.
[11:56] <pozdiy> LjL, shame on me.... so, I may just add .bash_logout there as well?
[11:56] <conn> hi, has anyone here installed the DRI snapshots from http://dri.sf.net ?
[11:56] <rhoffa> kaspertech is there a better browser?
[11:56] <aDre|ita> thank you !!!!!
[11:56] <aDre|ita> I get it !!
[11:56] <LjL> pozdiy: you could -- in that case, every new user would get one by default. but then, why not do as dooglus suggested and create a global /etc/bash_logout
[11:56] <aDre|ita> :)
[11:56] <VooDoo> rhoffa: what version you using?
[11:56] <erUSUL> aDre|ita, ningun problema ;)
[11:57] <aDre|ita> jejee
[11:57] <anavim> coz, kdirstat is a cool app... nice one  :)
[11:57] <KasperTech> rhoffa: No, I don't think so. But Galeon is almost as good.
[11:57] <aDre|ita> :)
[11:57] <rhoffa> whatever one i installed with ubuntu a few days ago
[11:57] <rhoffa> should i apt-get install firefox?
[11:57] <SEJeff> coz: Try filelight
[11:57] <rhoffa> maybe it will update?
[11:57] <aDre|ita> I never forget this irc channel :)
[11:57] <KasperTech> Try it, rhoffa.
[11:57] <pozdiy> LjL, global settings sound better, but is it a "right" way? I'd like to keep my system as standard as possible (due to my minimalistic knowledge of Linux, os in case I break something it would be easier to repair)
[11:57] <VooDoo> rhoffa: sudo apt-get update
[11:57] <SEJeff> coz: I don't use kde, but I really like that application. I think it is better than KDirStat
[11:57] <rhoffa> oh yes i have done that a bunch of times
[11:58] <VooDoo> there might be an update
[11:58] <tjpp> any1 knows what is the difference between breezy-backports and breezy-updates ?
[11:58] <VooDoo> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:58] <rhoffa> voodoo - what is this waiting status for on amule?
[11:58] <odin> How do I put a trash can on the desktop instead of in panel?
[11:58] <K_Dallas> I have been directed to use growisofs for burning DVDs. On its page it says one need a patch for kernel2.4 while i have 2.6.12. Q1: do i still need to apply that patch or is there a patch for my kernel? Q2: what device should i use for burning /dev/dvd and /dev/dvdrw? (i didnt see any scanbus look a like on its man pages) thanks
[11:58] <LjL> !tell rhoffa about firefox1.5
[11:58] <dooglus> tjpp: backports is for new features, updates is for bug fixes
[11:58] <K_Dallas> !tell K_Dallas  about firefox1.5
[11:58] <afabian> rhoffa, I've had the problem with firefox closing, except that I had assumed it was a crash and not a close.
[11:58] <SEJeff> K_Dallas: Why don't you use gnomebaker? It does dvds just fine
[11:58] <VooDoo> rhoffa: what when downloading stuff?
[11:58] <ale3hs> I never used KDE, but I see that many people got it.. more than Gnome.. is it ok?
[11:58] <odin> K_Dallas, try a ls -l /dev/dvdrw it should tell you what device
[11:58] <LjL> K_Dallas: please use "/msg ubotu firefox1.5" when asking for your own information
[11:59] <pozdiy> what is the difference between 'default' and 'desktop" users?
[11:59] <crsd_> !tell crsd about firefox1.5
[11:59] <Provider> what are the hardware requirements to run ubuntu desktop?
[11:59] <rhoffa> yes
[11:59] <K_Dallas> SEJeff, ok, i am going to install and see what it is, never used it. thanks
[11:59] <LjL> crsd_: see what i told K_Dallas please
[11:59] <crsd_> !tell crsd_ about firefox1.5
[11:59] <afabian> rhoffa, now that you mention it, I know it's not an isolated problem, and I might start collecting core files.
[11:59] <rhoffa> with gnucleus i never had to wait and that was gnutella
[11:59] <coz> hello again
[11:59] <K_Dallas> LjL, i will sorry
[11:59] <dooglus> afabian: you get core files?  I can't get ubuntu to make core files for me.
[11:59] <erUSUL> K_Dallas, you do not need the patch
[11:59] <coz> has anyone tried kdirstat? if so do you have any tips?
[11:59] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, thanks
[11:59] <rhoffa> afabian - if your talking about firefox, its sooo annoying
[11:59] <coz>  I like this app so go easy on me
[11:59] <VooDoo> rhoffa: depends on whos got what your downloading!
[12:00] <rhoffa> worst thing i have had happen with linux
[12:00] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, do i use /dev/dvd with the Z flag?
[12:00] <crsd_> LjL: ok