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| paolob | hola ogra! | 02:07 |
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| ogra | hey paolob | 02:08 |
| paolob | ogra: I resolved the problem with the slow downloading: it was the cable. | 02:15 |
| paolob | The other problem (errors booting) was a bad ram | 02:15 |
| ogra | i thought so ... | 02:15 |
| ogra | since you said it was always the same client | 02:16 |
| ogra | nice to hear you solved it :) | 02:16 |
| paolob | :-) | 02:18 |
| paolob | Ogra, I have a question. I have those 40 clients. May I switch all them all together (for example switching on the breakers), or is there any problem? | 02:21 |
| ogra | you mean putting them all on one switch ? | 02:23 |
| paolob | Actually they load very slowly: is it because are switched on toghether | 02:23 |
| ogra | thats also a drawback of the breezy ltsp ... | 02:24 |
| ogra | it *is* booting very slow | 02:24 |
| paolob | no, I mean that I was switching them on all together, and the loading in the clients is very slow. Is it because they are switched on together? | 02:24 |
| ogra | i dont think so ... | 02:24 |
| ogra | a normal breezy client takes ~90 seconds to boot | 02:25 |
| paolob | There is a _special_ delay after the line: | 02:25 |
| ogra | in breezy we have all services on the client you also have on the desktop installation (which was quite silly) | 02:26 |
| paolob | Begin: Running /script/nfs-premount - Done | 02:26 |
| ogra | additionally the nfs mountin is very slow | 02:26 |
| ogra | yup | 02:26 |
| ogra | exactly | 02:26 |
| paolob | This evening a client lasted 3 minutes there | 02:26 |
| ogra | there is a spec for faster booting in the next release, i'm working on that | 02:27 |
| paolob | but does the client's cpu speed affect the client booting speed? | 02:27 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientFasterStartup | 02:27 |
| ogra | nope | 02:27 |
| paolob | But then, why some client boots faster than other? | 02:27 |
| ogra | its the amount of services that gets started, a sleep command in the nfs code which is totally useless | 02:27 |
| ogra | that might be a network thing ... | 02:28 |
| paolob | network thing? why? I saw boot speed differences in clients connected to the same switch... | 02:29 |
| ogra | hmm | 02:29 |
| ogra | different CPUs ? | 02:30 |
| ogra | its very unlikely that the CPU speed affects the boot procee much ... | 02:30 |
| paolob | no, I thing the cpu is the same | 02:30 |
| ogra | execpt if you compare a PII 233 to a 1Ghz machine or so | 02:31 |
| ogra | same amount of ram ? | 02:31 |
| paolob | I have pII/III 350 | 02:31 |
| paolob | so the 3 min delay after Begin: Running /script/nfs-premount - Done is normal? | 02:32 |
| ogra | did it happen on the first boot after the server was started ? there is a bug i couldnt track down yet, that causes a delay... but 3 min are very much | 02:37 |
| ogra | i havent seen 3 min yet | 02:38 |
| ogra | sorry, need to reboot, brb | 02:38 |
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| mhz | hi | 03:57 |
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| Timsen | hi! | 02:22 |
| ogra | hi :) | 02:25 |
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| mhz | hi all | 03:11 |
| neurogeek | mhz, long time no see.. how are you doing? | 03:11 |
| mhz | neurogeek: just fine! how about you? how did the Foro go? | 03:12 |
| mhz | neurogeek: we have #edubuntu-es | 03:12 |
| mhz | ! | 03:12 |
| mhz | neurogeek: have you seen PythonEduLab? | 03:13 |
| neurogeek | the Foro was nice.. some problems in organization, but it went just fine | 03:13 |
| neurogeek | no.. i haven't.. some links?? | 03:13 |
| mhz | wiki:PythonEduLab :) | 03:14 |
| neurogeek | Ok | 03:15 |
| neurogeek | mhz, how are you doing? | 03:15 |
| mhz | just a little worried money is not coming in but out | 03:16 |
| neurogeek | mhz, things will get better | 03:16 |
| mhz | yup | 03:17 |
| mhz | maybe after xmas | 03:17 |
| mhz | i cant complain, my family is healthy :) | 03:18 |
| mhz | so no doctors, no hospitals, etc. | 03:18 |
| neurogeek | thats great | 03:18 |
| mhz | were people happy with the foro | 03:19 |
| neurogeek | yes.. most people were happy with the foro.. it was a nice experience, but better you didn't invest that money in comming | 03:21 |
| neurogeek | because you would have made some impact, but not as much as you've wanted to | 03:22 |
| mhz | why? | 03:22 |
| neurogeek | they are starting to organize next year's event.. that is going to be a whole better in that sense | 03:22 |
| neurogeek | because there were mostly people concerned with migration stuff.. and not a lot of people interested in education | 03:23 |
| mhz | oh | 03:24 |
| mhz | were people interested in free access to IT? | 03:24 |
| mhz | and free access to knowledge? | 03:24 |
| neurogeek | yes, but not as much as i would like | 03:25 |
| neurogeek | but we should start talking about plans and actions to be taken.. and start spreading words from now on | 03:25 |
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| mhz | neurogeek: cool | 03:27 |
| mhz | ubuntu-marketing is working on some nice initiatives | 03:27 |
| neurogeek | perfect.. | 03:28 |
| mhz | personally, i like the idea of UbuntuInStore day | 03:28 |
| neurogeek | whats that?? | 03:29 |
| mhz | and regardign edubuntu, I have just finished my first proposal for edubuntu invitations, so people (teachers, parents, etc) receive one for edubuntu demos. | 03:29 |
| neurogeek | excellent | 03:29 |
| mhz | what? | 03:29 |
| mhz | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuInStoresDay | 03:29 |
| mhz | also, magicfab (Fabian...) has done an Ubuntu 'leaflet' (similar to a diptico) for spanish efforts | 03:30 |
| mhz | and, last but not least, magicfab has also started UbuntuInLibraries | 03:31 |
| mhz | very coold idea! | 03:31 |
| neurogeek | yes.. jejeje it is a very nice idea | 03:32 |
| mhz | and me, neurogeek, in case you wish to jump up, I am starting to work on windowmaker themed for edubuntu light boxes | 03:32 |
| mhz | neurogeek: which of all? | 03:33 |
| neurogeek | all of them.. UbuntuInLibraries(Stores) and the Ubuntu leaflet | 03:34 |
| neurogeek | i would rather use fluxbox instead of windowmaker.... | 03:34 |
| neurogeek | but i could help, some way or another | 03:35 |
| mhz | and I should have a meeting with Pablo (designer volutneered for edubuntu stuff) about desktops design for 3 set of ages | 03:35 |
| mhz | neurogeek: I showed fluxbox to very non linux people (wife, mom, dad, etc) THey paniced | 03:35 |
| neurogeek | hehehe i could imagine those faces. | 03:36 |
| mhz | ogra: JaneW: hi. What should I say to Pablo? which set of desktop should we work on for dapper? | 03:36 |
| mhz | indeed | 03:37 |
| mhz | but maybe I didn't customize it very much | 03:37 |
| ogra | i thought you already decided that | 03:37 |
| mhz | ogra: but you mentioned a hired designer that will help | 03:37 |
| ogra | and its your decision ... | 03:37 |
| mhz | just you didnt know which set | 03:37 |
| ogra | yes, for the default desktop | 03:37 |
| ogra | ah, k | 03:38 |
| ogra | the edubutu-artwork package will have 3 choices for different ages ... | 03:38 |
| mhz | yup | 03:38 |
| ogra | i havent heard back from jane silber yet | 03:38 |
| mhz | hmm, any ideas how soon we could know? | 03:39 |
| ogra | might take some weeks ... i think she first wants to have this person | 03:39 |
| mhz | or... can we just decide for 2 artowrks and the person works on the pending one? | 03:39 |
| ogra | but there is no problem adding a fourth option "community contributed" to the package | 03:39 |
| ogra | nope, i'd like to clerify it with the management first ... | 03:40 |
| mhz | ok, it just that i am trying to set priorities | 03:40 |
| ogra | the last minute artwork change in breezy caused a lot of trouble ... i wont do that again | 03:40 |
| mhz | and, you know the date for daper freeze? | 03:40 |
| ogra | see DapperReleaseSchedule ... | 03:41 |
| mhz | duh! ok | 03:41 |
| ogra | (not from the top ofmy head) | 03:41 |
| mhz | neurogeek: btw, ogra needs people with py skills :) | 03:41 |
| ogra | absolutely ... | 03:42 |
| neurogeek | ogra, nice to meet you.. if i can be of any help.. just let me know | 03:42 |
| mhz | neurogeek: there are lots of things to do | 03:42 |
| ogra | i have a bzr archive with several projects, feel free to branch one or the other: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ | 03:42 |
| ogra | :) | 03:43 |
| mhz | neurogeek: and ogra needs people hands for py so he can have spare time for the girlfriend :D | 03:43 |
| neurogeek | Ok | 03:43 |
| neurogeek | i'll take a look | 03:44 |
| neurogeek | jejeje | 03:44 |
| ogra | mhz, heh, she will be pleased to hear :) | 03:44 |
| mhz | neurogeek: thx | 03:44 |
| mhz | :) i thought so, ogra | 03:44 |
| mhz | neurogeek: and in case i can write a proper mail yet, please spread the word that people can now happily visit #edubuntu-es (so no excuses) | 03:45 |
| mhz | :) | 03:45 |
| neurogeek | OK. i'll do that | 03:46 |
| mhz | cool | 03:46 |
| mhz | ogra: i dont want to bug but it's been long since I wrote 2 mails to mako and ping him in IRC (no that long here), and still zero answer. Today is not a big deal to me because first article is on its way to distribution but next article I'd like to see the list update. | 03:57 |
| ogra | mhz, i cant reach him on other ways than you ... | 03:58 |
| ogra | sorry ... | 03:59 |
| ogra | i could only mail him or ping him on IRC as well ... | 04:00 |
| ogra | i promise i'll ask him if i see him around .. | 04:00 |
| mhz | thx, and I hope you/him understand this "buging" is caused only because I did mention the url in 2 articles. | 04:01 |
| mhz | and don't wanna look like a liar or lier | 04:01 |
| ogra | i understand you very well ... and i agree that its a uncomfortable situation... but since mako doesnt work for canonical anymore he's very busy ... | 04:03 |
| ogra | and hard to catch | 04:03 |
| mhz | ok | 04:03 |
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| mhz | ogra: is it afrikaans the language? | 04:22 |
| ogra | of what ? | 04:23 |
| mhz | is that the way highvoltage's language is written? | 04:24 |
| mhz | never mind, he can fix it if it is a typo. | 04:24 |
| ogra | no idea if he natively speaks afrikaans | 04:24 |
| ogra | we always spoke english, even in person | 04:25 |
| mhz | ah | 04:25 |
| mhz | yup, afrikaans it is. he's memeber of the lp translator team | 04:26 |
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| Belutz | ogra, do you have the picture file of the edubuntu text in the first page of your edubuntu_talk.pdf ? | 07:13 |
| ogra | hmm, let me look ... | 07:13 |
| ogra | i have all pics, yes ... | 07:13 |
| Belutz | could you send all the pics to belutz@ubuntu.com ? | 07:15 |
| Belutz | thanks in advance :-) | 07:15 |
| ogra | thats the screenshot ? | 07:16 |
| ogra | ah, ok, sure ... | 07:16 |
| Belutz | yes with the screenshot also :) | 07:16 |
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| Belutz | ogra, thanks | 08:00 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 08:18 |
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| jelkner | ogra: hi oliver, are you here? | 08:21 |
| ogra | jelkner, sorry, i've to prepare a meeting, no time before 21 UTC | 08:23 |
| jelkner | ok, talk to you later then... | 08:23 |
| Lord_Athur | how can I download the code made for the developers for the new edubuntu version? | 08:27 |
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| Lord_Athur | nobody? | 08:34 |
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| jelkner | ogra: oliver, are you finished with your meeting? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | jinty: thanks for repackaging cando! | 11:14 |
| jelkner | oh well, looks like nobody is here... i'll check back tomorrow... | 11:16 |
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