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| allee | JRe: ping. still up? | 01:58 |
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| raphink | hi | 01:58 |
| allee | hey, hi raphink | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | hullo kids | 01:59 |
| raphink | how are you doing? | 01:59 |
| raphink | :) | 01:59 |
| allee | Tm_T: hi grand pa | 01:59 |
| Tm_T | after hours of fighting, I'm finally able to have some noise out from this machine | 01:59 |
| raphink | hi Tm_T :) | 01:59 |
| raphink | hehe | 01:59 |
| Tm_T | a) most of music player apps doesnt work at all (segfault or glibc errors) | 02:00 |
| Tm_T | b) what? no audio modules loaded? | 02:00 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:00 |
| Tm_T | bit kind of lottery to find some names of module, then trying what modules I need | 02:00 |
| Tm_T | s/bit/was/ | 02:01 |
| Tm_T | just too tired to think, too angry to sleep | 02:01 |
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| Tm_T | raphink: my mind | 02:02 |
| Tm_T | don't even try to understand ;) | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | I can't | 02:03 |
| raphink | bug 2217 :: package : Tm_T/mind ; bug description : when typing was, ouput is bit ; assigned to : bed ; | 02:03 |
| raphink | will do it | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | raphink: sorry, can't sleep soon | 02:03 |
| allee | JRe: ping me when you're up (but not too early ;) Planed topic: KubuntuPackagingGuide | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | but try to relax -> | 02:04 |
| raphink | I can sleep for you if you want | 02:04 |
| raphink | it's 2AM (wow 2AM!) | 02:04 |
| raphink | so I'll go soon | 02:04 |
| raphink | I'm even too tired to assle MOTUs on reviewing a few of my packages | 02:04 |
| allee | raphink: you disappoint me | 02:04 |
| raphink | allee: why? | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | it's 0304 here | 02:04 |
| raphink | Tm_T: what country? | 02:05 |
| allee | raphink: you want to go to bed | 02:05 |
| raphink | oh suomi | 02:05 |
| raphink | allee: so what? you don't sleep? | 02:05 |
| raphink | allee: wanna try my grub-splashimages package ? muahaha :) | 02:05 |
| Tm_T | raphink: Finland | 02:05 |
| allee | not that early. But I better would do it ;) | 02:05 |
| raphink | hehe :p | 02:06 |
| raphink | I improved it lately | 02:06 |
| raphink | there was a funny bug | 02:06 |
| raphink | linked to the fact that hda /-> (hd0,0) | 02:06 |
| raphink | would be too simple ;) | 02:06 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:06 |
| raphink | I had my first package tested by a guy on #kubuntu, and it crashed grub | 02:07 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 02:07 |
| raphink | because well his /boot was on /dev/hdc1 | 02:07 |
| allee | raphink: splash screens are not my favorites (and I have to answer some bug reports :( | 02:07 |
| raphink | hey that was you Tm_T | 02:07 |
| raphink | see I'm getting tired | 02:07 |
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| raphink | LOOOOOOOL | 02:07 |
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| raphink | lol | 02:07 |
| raphink | Tm_T: but heh it works now :D | 02:08 |
| === Tm_T is trying to see something from his hide | ||
| raphink | thanks to the #grub people :) | 02:08 |
| raphink | watchout Tm_T, the pillar ! | 02:08 |
| raphink | don't put your hands on your face like this when you walk | 02:08 |
| Tm_T | raphink: yes it works, have seen it in ~10 boots after your fix | 02:08 |
| raphink | what do you mean Tm_T ? | 02:09 |
| raphink | you rebooted 10 times since ? | 02:09 |
| Tm_T | oh yes | 02:09 |
| Tm_T | or more | 02:09 |
| raphink | wow | 02:09 |
| raphink | that is a booting machine you have here ;) | 02:09 |
| raphink | testing how many times you can boot before you crash the BIOS? ;) | 02:09 |
| Tm_T | nice kernel borkage in dapper ;) | 02:09 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:10 |
| Tm_T | that's might be the reason why my audio modules wasn't loaded at the boot lately | 02:10 |
| Tm_T | not fun | 02:10 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:10 |
| raphink | it's not my package I can tell | 02:10 |
| Tm_T | it's not | 02:11 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:11 |
| raphink | hehe | 02:11 |
| Tm_T | just if I get nvidia drivers and amarok working | 02:11 |
| raphink | oh I have to test ati on my X | 02:11 |
| raphink | I saw that fglrx had been modified today | 02:12 |
| raphink | so it might work now | 02:12 |
| raphink | I'll try it now | 02:12 |
| raphink | I feel lucky ;) | 02:12 |
| raphink | tsch for now | 02:12 |
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| raphink | pff | 02:25 |
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| Tm_T | ok, good night, stay in the light -> | 02:27 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping , need your help plz | 08:58 |
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| verwilst | hellow | 09:20 |
| verwilst | Riddell: ping | 09:20 |
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| Tm_T | whee | 10:55 |
| Tm_T | now juk plays mp3 tracks, but not oggs | 10:55 |
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| allee | JRe: ping | 11:33 |
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| amu | Riddell: ping | 12:43 |
| tvo | uh oh. kio_http locked up my computer.. | 12:51 |
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| freeflying_ | raphink: have you use hibernate under kubuntu | 01:49 |
| raphink | I don't have a laptop | 01:49 |
| freeflying_ | raphink: destop shall hibernate also | 01:50 |
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| raphink | I didn't try it | 01:50 |
| raphink | I have enough problems with dapper without trying that | 01:50 |
| raphink | ;) | 01:50 |
| raphink | kernel .15 doesn't boot | 01:51 |
| freeflying_ | raphink: I never make it works since hoary | 01:51 |
| raphink | my sound card is not recognized anymore | 01:51 |
| raphink | the ati acceleration doesnt work | 01:51 |
| raphink | haven't tried hibernation ever | 01:51 |
| freeflying_ | you have upgraded kernel to 2.15? | 01:51 |
| raphink | 2.6.15 | 01:52 |
| raphink | I didn't choose it | 01:52 |
| freeflying_ | y | 01:52 |
| raphink | it was in the dist-upgrade today | 01:52 |
| freeflying_ | how about it | 01:52 |
| raphink | doesn't boot | 01:52 |
| raphink | it stops at PCMCIA recognition | 01:53 |
| raphink | I have no PCMCIA | 01:53 |
| freeflying_ | but the restricted-module is not avalibe > | 01:53 |
| \sh | why nobody reads the topic on #ubuntu-devel? | 01:54 |
| \sh | "Dapper getting new kernels, very unstable; don't bother trying to install it. NO, REALLY, DON'T." | 01:55 |
| raphink | hehe | 01:55 |
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| raphink | well I just dist-upgrade -d | 01:55 |
| raphink | but it's ok my menu.lst still has .12 | 01:55 |
| raphink | so that's fine ;) | 01:55 |
| raphink | recompile the kernel to get hibernation freeflying... no thanks ;) | 01:57 |
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| kozz | about the KDE 3.5 packages for breezy, I'm wondering if there are any plans to make ppc binaries? | 03:51 |
| amu | they are mostly ready, but i cant catch Riddell | 03:55 |
| jjesse | i thought Riddell mentioned that he was working on them yesterday? | 03:55 |
| kozz | ohh, nice | 03:55 |
| kozz | takes a while to compile it on my machine | 03:56 |
| kozz | so anyday soon then? | 03:56 |
| amu | hold on i'll move them manual | 03:56 |
| amu | deb http://kubuntu.org/~amu/pool ./ | 03:58 |
| kozz | but that isn't everything? | 04:02 |
| amu | yep, Riddell original package are not completely uploaded ... as i said, i cant reach him to fix that problem | 04:04 |
| kozz | right | 04:05 |
| kozz | but thanks, will give it a try | 04:05 |
| amu | hint, those 4 packages are 80% of your compiletime | 04:07 |
| kozz | seems to work well | 04:21 |
| raphink | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/444950 | 04:23 |
| raphink | is this normal ??? ^^ | 04:23 |
| raphink | installing hotplug would remove all the kernels on my machine ! | 04:23 |
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| amu | sounds you use dapper, file a bug against the kernel | 04:34 |
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| === Riddell logs on | ||
| Riddell | amu: hi | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | good day | 05:44 |
| Tm_T | looks like dapper got nvidia xorg module | 05:45 |
| amu | Riddell: wb | 05:58 |
| amu | uploaded 3.5 ppc brezzy packages to my homedir | 05:58 |
| amu | arts/lib/base/pim are done | 05:58 |
| amu | I'm missing the diffs in network/admin and others | 05:58 |
| amu | doesnt kdeutils replace kamamba ? better put a replaces on it. | 05:58 |
| amu | automake1.9 is still lost in the builddeps kdebase | 05:58 |
| Riddell | kdeutils now includes superkaramba, nothing replaced just a different source package | 06:01 |
| Riddell | amu: not sure where those diffs went but you can get the sources from the ubuntu archives, just add a 0ubuntu0breezy1 changelog entry | 06:03 |
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| amu | Filename: pool/universe/s/superkaramba/superkaramba_0.36-1ubuntu2_i386.deb | 06:05 |
| amu | that the old one ... not sure about the new versioning | 06:05 |
| Riddell | new one in dapper is pool/universe/k/kdeutils/superkaramba_3.5-rc2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb | 06:06 |
| amu | Riddell: ok, should be no prob, diffed the verisons yesterday and saw that the new stuff ;) | 06:08 |
| jjesse | can i just say that this week i've been forced back into windows mode for some work stuff (for the auditor) and i miss the friendlyness of kubuntu | 06:14 |
| jjesse | i get much more done :P | 06:14 |
| Riddell | jjesse: can't audit kubuntu? | 06:14 |
| jjesse | no the bank is getting audited this week | 06:15 |
| amu | jjesse: that's a reason to change your job :) | 06:15 |
| jjesse | and some of the reporting tools i need to use to create reports for the auditor i can't find an open source alternative | 06:15 |
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| jjesse | amu: well i'm a windows network admin by trade, so maybe i would have to switch careers :) | 06:16 |
| amu | interesting, you work with windows, in private you use linux? | 06:20 |
| jjesse | amu: yes i am a windows admin, use two linux boxes at work for various things, work laptop dual boots windows and linux | 06:21 |
| jjesse | linux boxes run request tracker (for helpdesk software) and nagios (network monitoring) | 06:21 |
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| jjesse | did my last comment shut everyone up? | 06:38 |
| Riddell | jjesse: we still love you! | 06:43 |
| jjesse | Riddell: grin i was worried there for a minute :) | 06:43 |
| Tm_T | we do? | 06:43 |
| Tm_T | ah yes sure we do | 06:43 |
| Tm_T | (how long I have to play along...) | 06:43 |
| jjesse | at least until i leave the channel | 06:43 |
| Tm_T | heh | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | then before you leave... | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | jjesse <3 | 06:44 |
| \sh | Riddell: ah ...at last :) tell me something about the .pot creation. do we have to install it somehow? | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | ok, I think that's enough, you can go | 06:44 |
| jjesse | grin thanks Tim_T | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 06:45 |
| Riddell | \sh: nothing needs installed except gettext-kde and kdesdk-scripts which both come with delibs4-dev | 06:48 |
| Riddell | kdelibs4-dev | 06:48 |
| \sh | Riddell: no i mean how are the .pot files extracted then? | 06:49 |
| Riddell | \sh: if a .pot is generated it gets extracted by the buildds and sent to rosetta | 06:49 |
| Riddell | although rosetta isn't picking up dapper yet, it will keep them and use at some point | 06:50 |
| \sh | ah...that's the way how it works :) | 06:50 |
| \sh | cool | 06:50 |
| \sh | but right now I'm stucked with kmymoney2 because libaqbanking is missing...because of a missing xvfb-run script | 06:50 |
| Riddell | \sh: you also need a patch which is in tthe 3.5 packages in dapper | 06:51 |
| \sh | which one? | 06:51 |
| Riddell | common/kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff | 06:52 |
| Riddell | it may only apply to an up-to-date admin directory, if it's too much hassle don't worry | 06:52 |
| \sh | k | 06:56 |
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| Tm_T | happy day \o/ | 08:30 |
| Tm_T | I can see glxgears :p | 08:30 |
| Tm_T | anyone in dapper? | 08:42 |
| Riddell | yes | 08:42 |
| Tm_T | hum, and newest kernel etc? | 08:42 |
| Tm_T | because eth0 isn't pulled up in boot, I have to do ifup eth0 manually | 08:43 |
| Tm_T | atleast amaroK works <3 | 08:43 |
| Tm_T | and nvidia, finally :) | 08:43 |
| Riddell | don't have latest linux | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | ok | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | funny though, when else is fixed and "fixed", then net connection has small issues :p | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | and, now after boot... | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | ~$ pidof python | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | 8734 6999 6994 6992 6990 6988 6986 6984 6982 6980 6978 6976 6972 6971 6909 6908 | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | I have no idea why there's python processes | 08:59 |
| Tm_T | hmm, let's see what happens when I kill 'em all | 08:59 |
| Tm_T | nothing that I can see... | 09:00 |
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| Tonio_ | evening | 09:30 |
| Riddell | good afternoon Tonio_ | 09:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | hey Riddell | 09:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | kde almost works =P | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | doh | 09:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | krita only needs a simple rebuild | 09:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | infact | 09:35 |
| Tonio_ | hi Riddell , Tm_T and Diablo-D3 | 09:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | k3b k3b-mp3 k3blibs katapult kde-systemsettings kdebluetooth kio-apt | 09:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | kio-locate koffice-libs konserve krita ksystemlog | 09:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | out of those, most will do okay with a simple rebuild | 09:35 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: hullo :) | 09:35 |
| jjesse | Diablo-D3: i haven't had any issues w/ kde 3.5 | 09:35 |
| jjesse | on either breezy or dapper | 09:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | jjesse: this is just installation issues. | 09:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | jjesse: the ones I've been helping Riddell keep track of ;) | 09:36 |
| === Tm_T is trying to fill kde svn account application | ||
| Tm_T | surprisingly hard | 09:45 |
| Tm_T | bah bah | 09:46 |
| Tm_T | maybe I'm too old for this afterall | 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | 09:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | that isnt it Tm_T | 09:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | its surprisingly stupid | 09:53 |
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| Tm_T | what is stupid | 09:54 |
| Tm_T | I am? that's true | 09:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | the form is | 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | the whole process of becoming a kde developer is retarded | 09:56 |
| Tm_T | uh | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | form? | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | http://developer.kde.org/documentation/misc/applysvnaccount.php | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: you are confusing me | 09:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: Im talking /everything/ | 09:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | the whole making /perfect/ patches, and the whole signing up for an svn account, and the whole being nice to other developers until you've written as much code for kde as them | 09:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I'm coding for a project, then said project better get the fuck out of my way and let me code | 09:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | and dont bother me until Im done | 09:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: this, btw, is why I dont code for kde | 10:01 |
| Tm_T | huh | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | and I was literally asked to hop in | 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | so was I | 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I was personally asked by several kde devs to code on certain things | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | uh | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | and some others felt you're stepped to their territory? | 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope, I said I dont like the way the kde community works, and I declined their request. | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | ok | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | I understand | 10:05 |
| === Diablo-D3 fills in the missing blanks for Tm_T ;) | ||
| Tm_T | ;) | 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres two ways of doing development | 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | a) you have developers | 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | b) you have a benevolent overlord | 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | kde fits in category a, the linux kernel fits in category b. | 10:06 |
| Tm_T | hmm, new words... | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | benevolent? | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | opposite of maloveloent | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | *malevolent | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh screw it | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | english sucks | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | :p | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | I use dictionary then =) | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | thanks anyway for good try ;) | 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | s/dictionary/google/ | 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | googe for "define benevolent" | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | nah | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | http://www.ilmainensanakirja.fi/?q=P-12.Q-benevo.Q2-benevolent | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | straight translated to finnish ;) | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | ah yes, now I understand what you mean | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | anyway, have to mail this application asap :p | 10:11 |
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