[12:00] <rhoffa> ahh true
[12:00] <crsd_> just wanted to see what it does
[12:00] <olli_04> i've one user there where i can do a remote login via ssh but on the other user i can't. where could be the problem?
[12:00] <rhoffa> voodoo - my musical taste doesnt help either, damn people sharing there mtv brainwashed files
[12:00] <dooglus> rhoffa: does the problem continue if you make a new profile?
[12:00] <afabian> rhoffa, yeah.  It happens mostly when I open up a bunch of links at once without looking at them.
[12:00] <VooDoo> lol
[12:01] <erUSUL> K_Dallas, just growisofs -Z /dev/hdx -speed=4 /dir (where x is usually b or c)
[12:01] <anavim> coz: I just installed it after you mentioned it, so no tips  :)
[12:01] <cusco> what are the hardware requirements to run ubuntu desktop?
[12:01] <rhoffa> i havnt mad a new profile
[12:01] <olli_04> did i need to set special right to the users?
[12:01] <donald> Testing.
[12:01] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, ok, thanks. i will try on a DVDrw first ;)
[12:01] <dooglus> rhoffa: try it
[12:01] <rhoffa> but i can have 1 tab open and just click on a link and it will close
[12:01] <dooglus> rhoffa: it's either your profile or one of your plugins I would say.  firefox itself doesn't crash very much at all
[12:01] <SEJeff> K_Dallas: http://lliurex.net/home/files/descargas/capturas/gnomebaker.png Screenshot
[12:01] <anavim> coz: it seems to do a great job all by itself.  I selected by home directory and it made a nice visual layout of files
[12:02] <anavim> er, selected my home directory...
[12:02] <dooglus> rhoffa: if you do find a repeatable crash, report it to the mozilla bugzilla
[12:02] <K_Dallas> SEJeff, that looks nice :) thank you
[12:02] <afabian> dooglus, no, I haven't seen any core files, but ulimit usually fixes that.  ulimit -c tells me that the core size is set to 0... I'd probably have to stick ulimit -c unlimited in /etc/Xsession.d or some such.
[12:02] <pozdiy> what is the best way of installing selected deb files from debian mirrors? I'm talking about dozen or two of separate programs for end user (not system important)?
[12:02] <rhoffa> well im not running the newest version im gonna update and take it from there
[12:02] <tjpp> dooglus, thanx
[12:02] <ruairi> anyone able to help me with networking? Im on Breezy. It was working before and now it isn't
[12:03] <donald> What plugin does one use to get Firefox to play streaming audio??
[12:03] <mustard5> donald, mozplugger
[12:03] <dooglus> afabian: did you try changing the ulimit -c value?
[12:03] <ruairi> Real. RealPlayer 10 works a treat
[12:03] <donald> OK thanks.
[12:04] <ruairi> go to the Restricted formats page in the Help files online. Follow the list.
[12:04] <afabian> dooglus, works in a shell.  The problem, of course, is that my typical shell is in a gnome-terminal and is parent of nothing.  Like I said... Xsession.d ;)
[12:04] <K_Dallas> SEJeff, gnomebaker says my dvd drive burns on dvd-r while it does both and on dl too. would that cause any problems or dvd-r is used in a general sense?
[12:04] <ruairi> I had a bit of trouble installing Realplayer 10. had an error message when I followed the instructions.
[12:05] <SEJeff> K_Dallas: general
[12:05] <K_Dallas> ok thanks
[12:05] <ruairi> It reported a file missing fixed the problem by sudo get apt <the file it was asking for>
[12:05] <CarlF1> "The Qt database plug-in (QMYSQL3) is not installed." - is  libqt3-mt-mysql (universe) what I need?  hoping for something in main
[12:05] <houseoftainted> hello
[12:05] <ruairi> hello
[12:06] <houseoftainted> can i ask for help here :)
[12:06] <houseoftainted> i dont understand tar.gz files
[12:06] <ruairi> well ask, someone might answere
[12:06] <rhoffa> it wont let me install it
[12:06] <SAM_theman> yo guys
[12:06] <parabolize> I got a iriver ifp-890 that was working in Ubuntu 5.04 but its not working in 5.10. Nautilus (and the cli)  will act like moveing *.ogg files over but when I turn on the player the files anr't there or they are corrupt. here is the valid parts of dmesg http://users.adelphia.net/~phann8/dmesg.txt
[12:06] <CarlF1> houseoftainted: do you undersand .zip files?
[12:06] <ruairi> I cant help you there.
[12:06] <K_Dallas> houseoftainted, tar.gz is tarred and gzipped
[12:06] <houseoftainted> yes i know
[12:06] <SAM_theman> my dad havinga problem with amarok
[12:06] <houseoftainted> its the thiing inside it
[12:07] <SAM_theman> its not playing music
[12:07] <houseoftainted> i dont know how to install programs
[12:07] <houseoftainted> on linux
[12:07] <SAM_theman> but his sound works with other programs like cds and other musical stuff
[12:07] <mbmccormick> exit
[12:07] <SAM_theman> is amarok just a bad version?
[12:07] <SEJeff> houseoftainted: Go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[12:07] <parabolize> houseoftainted, sudo aptitude install blah
[12:07] <SEJeff> houseoftainted: Or Applications --> Add Applications for a simpler interface with less software
[12:08] <CarlF1> houseoftainted: "install programs" is pretty vague.  what are you trying to install?
[12:09] <ryan_> anyone got a minute to help out a newbie to linux? just trying to figure out if i still have my windows install =)
[12:09] <thewayofzen> *Problem/Question* :  since the upgrade of nautilus the other day on breezy.. nautilus is leaving icons on the desktop AFTER cd ejection.  Blank CD-R Disc will *NOT* go away
[12:09] <houseoftainted> how do i install programs on linux?
[12:09] <mustard5> ryan_, what makes you think you might not have it?
[12:09] <mustard5> houseoftainted, what program/
[12:09] <dooglus> afabian: thanks for that.  i've been wondering for a while why I wasn't seeing core files.
[12:09] <houseoftainted> snes9x
[12:10] <rhoffa> so im on the firefox wiki to install the 1.5 update
[12:10] <ryan_> well when i installed ubuntu, i had my drive partitioned into two drives
[12:10] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about amarok
[12:10] <dooglus> afabian: I use .gnomerc to set things like that.  didn't know about Xsession.d
[12:10] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  snes 9x
[12:10] <ryan_> i had to format one so i chose the smaller one with my music and downloads on it
[12:10] <rhoffa> sudo cp firefox-1.5.tar.gz /opt/ that wont work even though i have firefox on my deskto
[12:10] <ryan_> when i tried to reboot just now it goes straight into ubuntu and doesnt give me an option to boot windows
[12:10] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I believe that is installable via synaptic package manager
[12:11] <ryan_> im pretty sure that wasnt the drive with my windows install, but its been a while.  im very new to linux so i have no idea how to even look at my drive
[12:11] <SEJeff> rhalff_: Well then you probably aren't copying the file
[12:11] <houseoftainted> ok thanks :)
[12:11] <mustard5> houseoftainted, have you used synaptic before?
[12:11] <SEJeff> rhalff_: Try cd ~/Desktop and then try that command again
[12:11] <gimmulf> Give me 1 reason why i shouldnt install the 32bit ubuntu breezy system instaed of the 64bit im currently running
[12:11] <afabian> dooglus, .gnomerc is probably a better place.  I just stick stuff where it works.  It can get tiresome figuring out where stuff is "supposed" to go. ;)
[12:11] <rhoffa> sejeff thanks
[12:11] <dooglus> ryan_: run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" and see if your NTFS partition exists
[12:11] <ruairi> ryan_ what boot manager did you install?
[12:12] <ryan_> hah, i didnt install one i dont think?
[12:12] <rhoffa> sejeff it said no directory
[12:12] <CarlF1> houseoftainted: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/games/snes9x-x so use Menu,  System, Administration, , "Synaptic Package Manager"
[12:12] <mustard5> ryan_, you probably have grub installed
[12:12] <afabian> gimmulf, one reason is that you're already running the 64bit one.  Inertia. :x
[12:12] <ruairi> well that's why it's not dual booting
[12:13] <mustard5> ryan_, did you do a default install of ubuntu?
[12:13] <ryan_> yes grub
[12:13] <ryan_> yes i did a default, and it say smy windows partition is still there
[12:13] <ruairi> the standard installation is the GRUB bootloader. I think it has opptions for dual booting
[12:13] <thewayofzen> Is anyone aware of a way to fix nautilus so it doesnt leave that icon behind or is there a way to make it LEAVE once it is stuck there?!?
[12:13] <gimmulf> afabian:  but nithing works? Ati drivers wont work :/ mplayer wont work flash wont work , firefox wont work etc etc....
[12:13] <mustard5> ryan_, sometimes with grub you have to hit esc to see the menu when it comes up with a countdown
[12:13] <gimmulf> fonts wont work either
[12:13] <ruairi> youve got 3 seconds on startup to call up it's menu
[12:13] <ryan_> right i did that
[12:13] <ryan_> and it gave me three options
[12:14] <dooglus> hmm.  should be 4.
[12:14] <ryan_> kernel, kernerl recovery, an done other that i forgot
[12:14] <dooglus> you saw ubuntu, recovery and memtest, right?
[12:14] <rhoffa> is there a apt-get install for firefox 1.5?
[12:14] <ryan_> but it wasnt windows
[12:14] <mustard5> ryan_, memtest was the third
[12:14] <afabian> gimmulf, I'm no expert, but I figure the 32 bit version should work just fine, if you want to run it.  Less performance, probably.
[12:14] <ryan_> yes that sounds right
[12:14] <rhoffa> because the tar.gz installtion that i dled from mozilla.org isnt working
[12:14] <mustard5> ryan_, have you used the terminal in linux before?
[12:14] <houseoftainted> CarlF1,  synaptic wont run keeps saying wrong password
[12:14] <houseoftainted> it is the right password im not that dumb
[12:14] <houseoftainted> lol
[12:14] <dooglus> ryan_: I would suggest mounting your NTFS partition in ubuntu and seeing if it has a windows install on it
[12:15] <ryan_> nope
[12:15] <afabian> I installed Debian's official stable on an amd64 with no problems. (amd64 for debian stable has an unofficial version, but I wouldn't use that.)
[12:15] <ryan_> if theres some kind of tutorial that will get me familiar with the termninal, i can go read up on it
[12:15] <mustard5> ryan_, go to your Applications>>Accessories menu and look for terminal
[12:15] <budluva> anyone aware of a good brand of laptop that works well with ubuntu? or do all laptops work pretty well?
[12:15] <ryan_> yes ive got the terminal up, i just havent used it before, until that last command you told me to use
[12:15] <houseoftainted> ok got it working through sudo su ^_^
[12:16] <dooglus> ryan_: make a directory for mounting the ntfs partition:   "sudo mkdir /media/ntfs"
[12:16] <mustard5> ryan_, ok you used the pastebin in IRC before?
[12:16] <dooglus> houseoftainted: "sudo -i" is better.
[12:16] <mustard5> ubotu, tell ryan_ about pastebin
[12:16] <mustard5> ryan_, ubotu should have sent you a link to the pastebin
[12:16] <ryan_> havent used it but im pulling it up
[12:17] <rhoffa> this wiki link for firefox 1.5 installation isnt working
[12:17] <linkd> does anyone know how i can fix, or at least recover as much data as possible, off a drive complaining of a "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while tr ying to open /dev/hda4"? all i did was mount it whilst in a livecd :/
[12:17] <mustard5> ryan_, if you can copy and paste the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda to the pastebin, hit submit and then show us the unique URL it makes
[12:17] <ruairi> anyone know what they're doing with networking?
[12:17] <ryan_> k
[12:18] <ryan_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444257
[12:18] <Arv3n> Can anyone help me, why does gDesklets show up in allb lack?
[12:18] <mustard5> ryan_, thanks
[12:19] <ryan_> yep
[12:19] <Arv3n> I mean the plugins or w/e for gDesklets
[12:19] <ryan_> its amazing how helpless i am on a linux box, having only used windows until now =/
[12:19] <ryan_> gotta make the switch sometime though
[12:19] <linkd> anyone have any idea about my fsck error?
[12:19] <Arv3n> well, i dualboot, so its not a problem for me. XD
[12:20] <dooglus> ryan_: that NTFS partition is an extended partition.  is it possible to run Windows off an extended partition?
[12:20] <Shadowpillar> are nvidia's video drivers available for 64 bit?
[12:20] <Arv3n> can anyone help me? gdesklets apps show off in all black
[12:20] <Arv3n> *show up
[12:20] <pozdiy> any howto on how to use tell with ubotu?
[12:20] <rhoffa> shadowpillar - im wondering the same thing
[12:20] <dooglus> ryan_: did you run that "sudo mkdir /media/ntfs" command?
[12:20] <mustard5> ryan_, its a bit of  steep learning curve at the start, but if you hang out in here you will quickly learn ;)
[12:20] <ryan_> no dooglus i didnt, should i now? and i dont know if its possible or not =)
[12:20] <ruairi> Shadowpillar : should be, tried their website?
[12:21] <dooglus> ryan_: yes, do it now
[12:21] <ryan_> ok
[12:21] <dooglus> ryan_: and then try mounting the NTFS partition, using this command: "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /media/ntfs"
[12:21] <constantine_xvi> can you (and how do you) change the resolution of the boot screen and consoles?
[12:21] <ryan_> is there some kind of mouse-clickcommand to copy text? i thought i saw a buddy doing it the other day.
[12:21] <dooglus> ryan_: there's the 'edit' menu in gnome-terminal
[12:21] <Shadowpillar> "NVIDIA and ATI graphics card drivers, Acrobat Reader, Opera, Real Player, Macromedia Flash Player and perhaps a few other pieces of software. Of these, only NVIDIA and ATI have made an effort to build 64-bit editions of their drivers (the ATI driver is currently in beta testing)."
[12:21] <eric> I get the following error when starting mozilla-firefox :
[12:22] <calamari> ryan_: middle mouse button
[12:22] <eric> plugin_get_value 1
[12:22] <eric> plugin_get_value 2
[12:22] <eric> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[12:22] <eric> System error?:: No such file or directory
[12:22] <calamari> ryan_: to paste that is
[12:22] <eric> Anyone got any clues, sorry i'm new to linux
[12:22] <Arv3n> dont copy and paste.
[12:22] <dooglus> calamari: he said 'copy', not 'paste'.  right :)
[12:22] <ryan_> k, thx calamari
[12:22] <mustard5> linkd, are you trying to fsck a mounted disk?
[12:22] <Arv3n> use the pastebin.nl thing. O_O
[12:22] <eric> oh my bad sorry
[12:22] <ryan_> ok dooglus i ran both commands
[12:22] <Arv3n> lol.
[12:22] <dooglus> ryan_: now "cd /media/ntfs" and "ls".
[12:22] <Arv3n> dont worry, i do it all the time on accident. XD
[12:22] <calamari> dooglus: regardless that's what he wanted :)
[12:22] <dooglus> do you see your windows stuff?
[12:23] <dooglus> I can't believe I'm talking to a fried squid
[12:23] <ryan_> it says permission denied
[12:23] <calamari> dooglus: lol
[12:23] <florian_> hoi
[12:23] <calamari> or a star wars fan :)
[12:24] <constantine_xvi> can you (and how do you) change the resolution of the boot screen and consoles?
[12:24] <linkd> mustard5: no
[12:24] <BadMackTuck> no, definitely the squid
[12:24] <linkd> mustard5: it wont mount. that is the problem.
[12:24] <dooglus> ryan_: oh yes, it would.  unmount it:  "sudo umount /media/ntfs" and remount as yourself:  "sudo -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda5 /media/ntfs"
[12:24] <mustard5> linkd, and runnning fsck on it unmounted is not fixing it?
[12:24] <ruairi> calamari what about the ctrl-c or ctrl-v keyboard shortcuts, is there a way to make them universa. cause they only seem to work in open office and not everything else!
[12:25] <calamari> ruairi: they seem to work in all gnome apps for me.. kde too
[12:25] <cfa> hi any1 have an onboad minipc Atheros A/B/G card and got to work
[12:25] <linkd> mustard5: thats correct, it errors when i try
[12:25] <dooglus> ruairi: it's control-shift-c (and v) in gnome-terminal
[12:25] <gib8> hi can someone help me with vmware? i get following warning: cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wstrict-prototypes" is valid for Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++
[12:25] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about w32codecs
[12:25] <mustard5> linkd, hmmmm... (looking at the error again)
[12:25] <gib8> and i dont know the meaning of it and why i get it
[12:25] <constantine_xvi> can you (and how do you) change the resolution of the boot screen and consoles?
[12:25] <dooglus> ruairi: because control-c and control-v are used by a lot of the programs you might use inside the terminal
[12:25] <calamari> ruairi: I rarely use them tho.. I prefer the ancient Ctrl-Ins, Shift-Ins, Shift-Del combos
[12:26] <gib8> can it depends on the kernelversion?
[12:26] <atrophic> ruairi, try control shift c and control shift v when control c/control v doesn't work
[12:26] <szehne> has anyone had any luck running half-life 2 with wine?
[12:26] <mustard5> linkd, what is on that partition?
[12:26] <linkd> it was previously mounted as /home
[12:26] <dooglus> ruairi: you can change the shortcuts to anything you like, of course
[12:26] <linkd> mustard5: which is why the data is important to retrive
[12:27] <ruairi> dont seem to work for me when trying to copy command lists out of the help files into the terminal
[12:27] <ryan_> dooglus: it gave me an error, should i paste bin it?
[12:27] <dooglus> ryan_: sure
[12:27] <ryan_> dooglus: says illegal option "-t"
[12:27] <mustard5> linkd, and what is the command you are using to mount it?
[12:27] <calamari> ruairi: for the terminal I usually middle click to paste.. dunno, sorry
[12:27] <constantine_xvi> no personal XP with HL2, but a friend of mine got it running faster than winxp
[12:27] <dooglus> ryan_: oh yes, it would.  remount as yourself:  "sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda5 /media/ntfs"
[12:27] <dooglus> ryan_: I missed out the 'mount' command!
[12:28] <linkd> mustard5: it was originally failing at boot when it was trying to do /etc/fstab. i have subsquently try mount -a, and mount /dev/hda4
[12:28] <ruairi> cheers, that's several options
[12:28] <ryan_> dooglus: k, now run the previous
[12:28] <ryan_> ?
[12:28] <cfa> any1 now anything about Atheros minipc card and ndiswrapper, WPA
[12:28] <dooglus> yup
[12:29] <mustard5> linkd, I'm at the stage where I would only be guessing what to do really
[12:29] <dooglus> ryan_: "cd /media/ntfs" takes you to the directory
[12:29] <ryan_> oh nice
[12:29] <dooglus> ryan_: and "ls" lists the contents
[12:29] <ryan_> dooglus: it has all my files listed =P
[12:29] <linkd> mustard5: thats ok, any input might help resolve this
[12:29] <dooglus> ryan_: do you see a "windows" directory?
[12:29] <ryan_> dooglus: yes
[12:29] <linkd> mustard5: throw in any ideas u have!
[12:29] <inesh> Hi all
[12:30] <ruairi> anyone here able to help with Samba?
[12:30] <calamari> I see a lot of requests go zooming past because of the amount of traffic in here.. curious if anyone would be interested in me writing some kind of help bot where you log questions, they are reported in the channel, can list them, add comments, etc.. then no requests would be lost
[12:30] <mustard5> linkd, is there more to the error message?
[12:30] <mustard5> linkd, can you pastebin it?
[12:30] <pozdiy> calamari, yes, I would like to see such a bot here
[12:30] <linkd> mustard5: thats the entire error. the one of boot was about a superblock read failure. but thats it otherwise
[12:30] <senseiteki> I'm looking to change distros - I'm currently using suse open at the moment, and want to find a distro that handles video better - what kind of codecs are included with ubuntu?
[12:30] <Sedge> Anyone have issues with their system randomly just hanging for a few split seconds here and there? I'm running Breezy with a P4 2.4c and 2gigs of RAM and I can't figure this out
[12:31] <linkd> mustard5: i was pointed towards a windows program that is used for recovering linux partitions, let me just try this, seems to be running well at the moment. *fingers crossed*
[12:31] <mustard5> linkd, k :)
[12:31] <seife> Hi
[12:32] <senseiteki> I'm looking to change distros - I'm currently using suse open at the moment, and want to find a distro that handles video better - what kind of codecs are included with ubuntu?
[12:32] <seife> I need a wlan guru, i cant get my wireless device working.. please help.
[12:32] <LjL> senseiteki: no codecs for restricted formats
[12:32] <LjL> !tell senseiteki abut restrictedformats
[12:32] <LjL> senseiteki: they can be installed, though, of course
[12:32] <mustard5> senseiteki, proprietory codecs need to be downloaded seperately
[12:32] <calamari> pozdiy: cool.. mind if I pm?
[12:33] <pozdiy> are there any usenet groups for Ubuntu?
[12:33] <cfa> seife i am in the same boat, what chip set are u using and what have u tried so far
[12:33] <pozdiy> calamari, go ahead
[12:33] <senseiteki> alright, in your experience, are they easy to get working?
[12:33] <mustard5> senseiteki, very easy
[12:33] <ryan_> dooglus: you still there?
[12:33] <LjL> !tell senseiteki about restrictedformats
[12:33] <seife> cfa, Intersil Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset, i have tried a lot, hehe.
[12:33] <nowh34> hey how can i view a file who is in a ./ folder
[12:33] <nowh34> :S:S
[12:33] <Cup> hey everyone , i've got a question here , do i have to make the partition empty b4 i install on it ?
[12:33] <senseiteki> fantastic - thanks - also, should i be downloading the cd iso or the dvd?   what's included on the dvd that's not on the cd?
[12:34] <cfa> have u installed the latest ndiswrapper and what encrp do u use
[12:34] <szehne> has anyone ever considered creating a "dashboard"-like application for linux?
[12:34] <Techie_dude> How would i make xmms my default cd player
[12:34] <nowh34> hey how can i view a file who is in a ./ folder
[12:34] <BadMackTuck> LjL: restrictedformats doesnt have info in it about getting wmv's to run, though
[12:34] <LjL> senseiteki: if you have a fast connection, i suppose the cd will be fine
[12:34] <mustard5> Cup, from memory, I believe it formats the partition you choose
[12:34] <LjL> BadMackTuck: well, i don't what has
[12:35] <rob_p> nowh34:  cat ./filename
[12:35] <kukAW> http://picasa.hu/1133393718-1011_de4.jpg ;-) :)
[12:35] <Cup> mustard 5 , i selected the manual partitioning , created a new 20gig partition ... the problem is ... the data on my remaining 60 gig is destroyed
[12:35] <cfa> seife, is it a card or onboard and do u have the .inf file for it
[12:35] <BadMackTuck> someone who knows whats up, aka not me, should update that wiki. pretty pretty please
[12:35] <seife> I dont have the .inf file for it :'(
[12:35] <senseiteki> LjL: Thanks, i appreciate the help
[12:36] <USCRyan> mustard5: i dont know what happened to dooglus, could you help me?
[12:36] <mustard5> USCRyan, what do you need to do now?
[12:37] <rob_p> nowh34:  If it's a big file, you can do a, "cat ./filename | less" and use the arrow up/down keys to scroll the document.  "q" will quit the less session.
[12:37] <mustard5> USCRyan, you need to get windows booting?
[12:37] <USCRyan> mustard5, i was ryan_ that was asking questions a minute ago
[12:37] <cfa> ah, that would help alot. u can use with the ndiswrapper. is it on a laptop? if yes, is it dual boot. If yes have u check the windows boot for the inf file
[12:37] <USCRyan> mustard5, yes, he had me mount my drive and my windows directory is there
[12:37] <Cody`> Can anyone tell me what the current backports url's are?
[12:38] <seife> cfa, onboard.
[12:38] <nowh34> rob_p , i want to move the file that  is in a " ./ " folder  , to my desktop
[12:38] <nowh34> how can i do?
[12:38] <redondos> nowh34: move it to ~/Desktop
[12:38] <nowh34> how can i make it?
[12:38] <redondos> mv ./file ~/Desktop
[12:38] <dooglus> USCRyan: yes.
[12:38] <mustard5> USCRyan, ok..just thinking about how we might go about it
[12:38] <rob_p> nowh34:  "mv ./filename ~/Desktop/"
[12:38] <dooglus> USCRyan: I was helping my flatmate find her car keys!
[12:38] <nowh34> ok thanks
[12:38] <redondos> np, nowh34
[12:38] <USCRyan> dooglus, np haha i figured you had to go for one reason or another =)
[12:38] <cfa> seife, can u answer the rest of my questions
[12:39] <mustard5> dooglus, ok..I don't have much idea how to get his grub working, so I might leave it to you :)
[12:39] <pozdiy> any newsgroups dedicated to Ubuntu in existance?
[12:39] <dooglus> USCRyan: can you pastebin the whole of your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:39] <rraajj> Hi! Can I upgrade from KDE 3.4 to 3.5 using the package manager?
[12:39] <ardchoille> Anyone good with bash? I can't figure what  am doig wrong: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZQil6c54.html
[12:39] <dooglus> mustard5: I only used grub for the first time last week.  I usually use lilo
[12:39] <ruairi> Im off folks
[12:39] <ruairi> quit
[12:40] <ruairi> #wuit
[12:40] <mustard5> Cup, so how did you want to proceed then?
[12:40] <USCRyan> dooglus, how do i get it to list that?
[12:40] <dooglus> USCRyan: I downloaded a little script from the pastebin site.
[12:40] <marc_> help i need write in ntfs hd
[12:41] <huhmz> Whats happened to /etc/ld.so.conf? where can i specify lib paths?
[12:41] <cfa> seife u there
[12:41] <dooglus> USCRyan: in the terminal, type this:
[12:41] <seife> cfa, read private msg
[12:41] <marc_> help i need write in ntfs hdd
[12:41] <dooglus> "cd; wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin; chmod 755 pastebin"
[12:41] <digg> Uh Oh!
[12:41] <ctcecil> I got PuTTY to work on Windows XP home if anyone needs to know how
[12:41] <mustard5> marc_, thats not something that in a general sense linux can do
[12:41] <cfa> what priv message
[12:42] <seife> yes its a laptop, i dont have windows here, so i cant check
[12:42] <marc_> :( ok
[12:42] <marc_> thx
[12:42] <USCRyan> dooglus, done
[12:42] <ctcecil> digg: just did that earlier today, heh
[12:42] <mustard5> marc_, there are programs that can write to ntfs, but they are experimental
[12:42] <marc_> ok
[12:42] <dooglus> USCRyan: then you can "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | ~/pastebin"
[12:42] <ompaul> huhmz, all that is in mine is /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Library/Libraries
[12:42] <digg> ctcecil: well, fdisk reads it , but parted doesnt
[12:42] <dooglus> USCRyan: and that will paste the file for you
[12:42] <digg> ctcecil: same ?
[12:42] <dooglus> USCRyan: I see it
[12:42] <USCRyan> dooglus, alright
[12:43] <mustard5> marc_, but using just default linux...the answer is no...you can't write to ntfs...so you need to write to a vfat partition then transfer from the vfat to ntfs in windows
[12:43] <dooglus> USCRyan: I also see that you don't have anything in there for booting windows...
[12:43] <ctcecil> digg: no well i didnt really screw up my partition table i installed ubuntu on a diff box so i decided to do without dual boot and messed everything all upand had to fix it with WINDOWS recovery console :-[
[12:43] <Techie_dude> how would i make xmms my default cd player
[12:43] <cfa> seife, ok, so no win boot. sorry i can help u if u had the win boot, but i think onboard minipc have problems, so i guess we both must wait
[12:44] <dooglus> USCRyan: I don't use grub here, so I can't tell what the windows bit should look like.  Hopefully someone else can help you.  You need to add a few lines to the end.  Although, since your Windows is in an extended partition, I don't even know if it's bootable.
[12:44] <cfa> seife, do u have a wlan card, i got that to work
[12:44] <seife> no, just the shit that comes with the laptop
[12:44] <pozdiy> I need a GUI newsreader, able to customise message headers for me (e.g. X-no-archive: yes), any suggestions?
[12:44] <cfa> what kind of laptop
[12:45] <tru64> hi
[12:45] <USCRyan> dooglus, thanks for your help, i have one last question
[12:45] <tru64> i need help please
[12:45] <cfa> is it in the laptop list on the ubuntu site
[12:45] <USCRyan> dooglus, is it possible to get all of my media files from that partition, back them up, and then i could just format and start over with fresh installs?
[12:45] <dooglus> please, someone, anyone who dual-boots windows and ubuntu using grub - pastebin a copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:46] <tru64> is no op in here?
[12:46] <ompaul> tru64, if you don't tell people what it is you want to know they won't know what it is they should tell you, its kinda a too way street :-)
[12:46] <dooglus> USCRyan: sure.
[12:46] <USCRyan> lol
[12:46] <SAM_theman> why is xine soo choppy?
[12:46] <tru64> ok
[12:46] <seife> cfa, hp pavilion ze5300
[12:46] <ompaul> tru64, s/too/two
[12:46] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about dma
[12:47] <steigweis> ff 1.5 is way faster than the 1.0 - and there is a new google toolbar - its great!
[12:47] <USCRyan> dooglus, do you know of a good tutorial on a forum or anything that could teach me the basics of navigating the terminal? ex: how to move, delte, create directorys, open media files, install tar.gz's, ect
[12:47] <thrice`> steigweis, where did you grab it from?
[12:47] <dooglus> USCRyan: you can use the ubuntu gui to drag and drop files from /media/ntfs into your home
[12:47] <cfa> my is not, i have a Fujitsu T4020D and it is not on the list
[12:47] <steigweis> the toolbar?
[12:47] <steigweis> 1.5 is out now
[12:47] <cfa> have u checked the list
[12:47] <steigweis>  on the firefox-site
[12:47] <dooglus> USCRyan: I don't.  I learned all that stuff 20 years ago :)
[12:48] <USCRyan> dooglus, hah, i was born 20 years ago ;)
[12:48] <cfa> dooglus, i have a dual boot
[12:48] <linkd> mustard5: if your curious, the original program i found teased u. it detected ur drive and ur filesystem (which is great cuz i know its not totally fucked) but wouldnt let u actually recover them unless you paid! :(. so i googled and found another one, called R-Linux. i recommand this program if you ever have a working windows system and need to recover linux FS. it does the same as the other one (Phoenix Linux) but is free!
[12:48] <dooglus> USCRyan: first, "man" will show you the manual page for any command.  so "man sudo" to find out what "sudo" does, etc.
[12:48] <linkd> mustard5: so im happy :D
[12:48] <mustard5> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5253
[12:48] <Coweater> USCRyan: man intro
[12:48] <dooglus> USCRyan: then: move = "mv", copy = "cp", remove = "rm", install tar files = "tar xf <tar file>", make dir = "mkdir", remove dir = "rmdir", ...
[12:48] <mustard5> linkd, well done :)
[12:49] <seife> cfa, what list?
[12:49] <mustard5> linkd, I'll try to remember that one
[12:49] <pozdiy> I currently use NAutilus to navigate Windows network using Samba, is there any other GUI filamanager (I'd prefer 2 panel one, FileRunner like) wich would allow me to connect to windows network?
[12:49] <linkd> mustard5: yea. its weird how... windows actually saved linux's ass this time
[12:49] <USCRyan> coweater, thanks ill check that out
[12:49] <cfa> seife, go to ubuntu support, then search laptop
[12:50] <mustard5> dooglus, I was trying to reinstall windows yesterday, to my grub menu.lst is set up for windows..but I formatted the partition incorrectly so its not currently working
[12:50] <cfa> the website
[12:50] <mustard5> linkd, hehe
[12:50] <ompaul> !tell tru64 about ask
[12:50] <tru64> ok
[12:50] <ompaul> tru64, the bot for the channel just sent you a message
[12:50] <tru64> oh let me read that
[12:51] <w|ng> Hey guys
[12:51] <USCRyan> dooglus, i will just backup all my files and start from new, so heres my last question for now....is it possible to dual boot off one hard drive? its a 40gig, and if so what kind of partition should i do.
[12:52] <sethk> USCRyan, of course, that's the typical way you do it
[12:52] <sethk> USCRyan, I have windows and linux dual booting on a 40 gig drive
[12:52] <erisco> is there any way to check your motherboard model with the terminal?
[12:52] <seife> cfa, where ;o
[12:52] <seife> :(
[12:52] <USCRyan> sethk, thanks, i was just confused because he said i have it on an "extended partition" and windows might not boot off that?
[12:52] <sorush20> guys I need some help with partitioning tool..
[12:52] <sethk> USCRyan, that's possibly true.  How did windows get onto an extended partition?
[12:53] <pozdiy> USCRyan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[12:53] <erisco> and i heard there was certain speeds a motherboard could run a graphics card at, is this true?
[12:53] <sorush20> I have a /hda1 55gb and I have deleted all other partitions
[12:53] <sethk> USCRyan, windows is extremely bitchy about booting
[12:53] <dooglus> USCRyan: you could try this:  "wget -O- http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/grub-win.txt | sudo tee -a /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:53] <USCRyan> setk, i didnt pay much attention when i installed linux =)
[12:53] <w|ng> Does anyone know nokia 770?
[12:53] <sethk> USCRyan, still, if you install windows first, it won't be on an extended partition
[12:53] <navarone> erisco> you may mean overclocking...and if you attempt and do not cool hardware properly you may fry puter
[12:54] <nikcom> heya peoples
[12:54] <sorush20> I have repartitioned and reinstalled to a new empty partition on the hard disk but I keep getting grub 15 boot error can anyone help please?
[12:54] <mustard5> welcome nikcom
[12:54] <seife> cfa, ?
[12:54] <USCRyan> sethk, well, before i installed linux, it was showing that i had two different installs of windows going on
[12:54] <nikcom> ive just installed ubuntu 5.10 3 times, and once i log in, the whole system just stops
[12:54] <nikcom> driving me crazy
[12:54] <ompaul> w|ng, lots of us know it but I doubt if anyone has seen one other than on the nokia site
[12:54] <USCRyan> setk, but they both worked, i just got in the habbit of using the previous, somewhere along the road i must have tried to reinstall it on the other partition
[12:54] <mustard5> sorush20, I'm just looking up what error 15 is
[12:55] <SAM_theman> why can't i hear any sound in foxnews???
[12:55] <cfa> seife, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LaptopTestingTeam/view?searchterm=laptops
[12:55] <sethk> USCRyan, two installs of windows, or just two partitions used by windows?
[12:55] <ompaul> !tell SAM_theman about restricted
[12:55] <sorush20> mustard5: I think its to do with not being able to find the map etc..
[12:55] <ompaul> SAM_theman, have a look at the message from ubotu the channel bot it may be of use to you
[12:55] <majyk> can somebody recommend a USB wireless card that works with Linux?
[12:56] <mustard5> sorush20, it says its a file not found error
[12:56] <USCRyan> sethk, two installs, whenever i would boot up it would ask me to choose which OS, and it would list windows xp twice =) loading one would have totaly different settings than the other
[12:56] <cfa> BBL
[12:56] <erisco> navarone, for for example if my motherboard runs at a x8, and the graphics card is built for x4, i am risking to overheat my card?
[12:56] <mustard5> sorush20, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:56] <spikebike> no
[12:56] <spikebike> erisco should be fine
[12:56] <USCRyan> dooglus, i ran that script, did it overwrite my old menu.lst?
[12:56] <navarone> erisco> are you talking the agp?
[12:56] <erisco> navarone, yes
[12:57] <navarone> erisco> no...that's okay...the motherboard will go at appropriate speed
[12:57] <erisco> navarone, i am running a 16MB and i seriously want to get a 256MB
[12:57] <dooglus> USCRyan: it should have appended to it.
[12:57] <bluefox83> any of you folks ahd a problem with the breezy opera?
[12:57] <bluefox83> *had
[12:57] <erisco> navarone, so where do these overheating problems occur?
[12:57] <dooglus> USCRyan: you could pastebin it again, so I can look.  or you could look for yourself: "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:57] <bluefox83> besides the fact that it sucks i mean >.>
[12:58] <navarone> erisco> I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to change setting to get speed boost in processor
[12:58] <digg> does anyone know what "Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition" means... in parted
[12:58] <anavim> bluefox83, no, just that  :D
[12:58] <dooglus> my laptop overheats and shuts down when running ubuntu.  it doesn't when it runs mandriva or windows.
[12:58] <USCRyan> dooglus, yes, its added
[12:58] <ompaul> mustard5, one thing to look at is !grub :-)
[12:59] <bluefox83> anavim, lol
[12:59] <erisco> navarone, okay. so no issues with clocking and the graphics card then? if i have a x4 motherboard and i have a x8 graphics card, would i not only take advantage of half the card's power?
[12:59] <lightbright> navarone: hello :)  great to see you
[12:59] <dooglus> USCRyan: I don't know if hd(0,4) is the right way to specify your /dev/hda5 windows partition, what with it being an extended partition and all.  you can try rebooting and see what happens when you chose the new 4th grub menuy entry
[12:59] <spikebike> eric 1/2 the bandwidth to the video card
[12:59] <spikebike> but that is not usually the bottleneck
[12:59] <nikcom> gggrrrr, ubuntu 5.10 is buggy as
[12:59] <spikebike> should be fine
[12:59] <USCRyan> dooglus, alright i will try that now
[12:59] <majyk> anyone successfully using a USB wireless card in Ubuntu?
[12:59] <USCRyan> setk, brb
[01:00] <lightbright> nikcom: what bugs?
[01:00] <navarone> erisco> I don't see a prob...card will simply run at lower speed...downshift as it were
[01:00] <navarone> hi lightbright
[01:00] <nikcom> well i just done a fresh install, coz gentoo was driving me crazy, and when i log in, gnome doesnt even load up
[01:00] <nikcom> the whole system just stops
[01:00] <lightbright> nikcom: how can it be a bug when it works for thousands of others?
[01:00] <erisco> spikebike, navarone, yes alright. my point was i don't exactly want to waste the money buying something more than my system can use...
[01:00] <nikcom> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96723
[01:00] <nikcom> like that forum
[01:00] <dooglus> majyk: I did once.  but in my experience wireless is a pain.
[01:00] <navarone> nikcom> can you press ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal and log in?
[01:00] <nikcom> nope
[01:01] <nikcom> it wont let me
[01:01] <erisco> spikebike, navarone, is there a way to check the clocking speed?
[01:01] <mustard5> ompaul, I'm being lazy  atm...I should fix it I suppose :)
[01:01] <Seveas> nikcom, 1) check whether 'lo' is up and 'esd' is running
[01:01] <wathson> hello
[01:01] <erisco> spikebike, navarone, i am having trouble finding a model number
[01:01] <spikebike> ersco it's not a waste, it's very hard to notice the difference, it's mostly marketing
[01:01] <nikcom> and if i click session, a white box comes up and i cant click anything
[01:01] <spikebike> nvidia?
[01:01] <erisco> spikebike, navarone, i fear it may be on the backside of the motherboard
[01:01] <navarone> erisco...waht motherboard you have?
[01:01] <nikcom> i cant Seveas
[01:01] <nikcom> i cant get into a terminal
[01:01] <erisco> spikebike, navarone, it is a compaq board, but i cannot locate a model number yet
[01:01] <Seveas> nikcom, ah, it froze that bad?
[01:02] <nikcom> yepe
[01:02] <Seveas> no <ctrl><alt><f1>?
[01:02] <nikcom> driving me crazy
[01:02] <nikcom> lol
[01:02] <nikcom> nope
[01:02] <nikcom> i swear
[01:02] <navarone> erisco> try system/admin/device manager and see if it gives any clues
[01:02] <pozdiy> what is a key combination to change a screen resolution on the fly under X.org?
[01:02] <Seveas> ah well, too late for me to try helping, gotta go to bed :)
[01:02] <nikcom> um ctrl alt - and + i think
[01:02] <erisco> navarone, of course i accidently click on my firefox launcher.... sigh
[01:02] <pozdiy> let's try...
[01:03] <phiqtion> nalioth: flash isn't working
[01:03] <pozdiy> nickrud, does not work
[01:03] <navarone> erisco...if it works then we needn't worry about browsing anyway ;)
[01:03] <pozdiy> nikcom, does not work
[01:03] <nikcom> ggrrr, im gonna have to download an older version and update it then
[01:03] <nowh34> how can i convert a .avi file to a .vcd file?1?!
[01:03] <nikcom> you have to have it enabled in your config
[01:03] <seife> I need a wlan guru, i cant get my wireless device working.. please help.
[01:03] <nowh34> its dificult?
[01:04] <nikcom> like all the other sizes your hardware can support
[01:04] <phiqtion> Can somebody help me? i recently downloaded flash thru apt-get but firefox isn't recognizing it
[01:04] <erisco> navarone, ah well shouldn't have closed the browser, i picked up the model on the agp
[01:04] <alilou> hi every one what is the module assistance name you use in ubuntu...also how would you install ipw2200 driver using apt, would you have to add contrib & non free in the source list? thanks
[01:05] <mustard5> phiqtion, let me check something....brb
[01:05] <nickv111> Hello.
[01:05] <nickv111> What's the best way to get mythtv on ubuntu for PPC?
[01:05] <mustard5> phiqtion, did read the guide at the wiki at all?
[01:05] <phiqtion> mustard5: yes
[01:05] <zcat> I know that nobody likes grammar nazis, but in the About Ubuntu doc, shouldn't the comma be a semicolon for this sentence: "Ubuntu receives free security updates for 18 months after release, some versions are supported for even longer."
[01:05] <nowh34> how can i convert a .avi file to a .vcd file?1?!
[01:05] <zcat> yes... I dropped into this channel just to say that. Running Ubuntu in vmware.
[01:06] <dooglus> zcat: yes, it should
[01:06] <ryan_> doolgus, it gave an error saying wrong type of partition -- so on to the formatting!
[01:06] <tyler_165> For some reason, after unpacking FF1.5 in /opt/, I get an error when I do /opt/firefox/firefox  anyone know why? Or have some knowledge?
[01:06] <ryan_> dooglus, what program should i use to burn cds?
[01:06] <dooglus> ryan_: you might want to back up everything first :)
[01:06] <guru54_> does gcc come installed by default on ubuntu5.10?
[01:06] <nikcom> since 5.10 doesnt work, does anyone know what i should go for next???
[01:06] <dooglus> ryan_: k3b is good
[01:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> guru: you have to install it
[01:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> but it's on the CDE
[01:06] <dooglus> ryan_: but it uses the KDE libraries.
[01:07] <ryan_> dooglus, will it matter if i install windows or ubuntu first after the format?
[01:07] <guru54_> Sneaky_Bastard, the libs are installed though correct?
[01:07] <nowh34> how can i convert a .avi file to a .vcd file?1?!
[01:07] <SAM_theman> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[01:07] <ompaul> guru54_, no >> sudo apt-get install build-essential <<will sort that out for you
[01:07] <shaltrc> hi
[01:07] <guru54_> ompaul, dailup, was hopeing it at least had the libs
[01:07] <nikcom> which is the most stable of hoarty warty and breezy?
[01:08] <mwe> ryan_: you'll get some (fixable) problems if you install windows after linux
[01:08] <dooglus> ryan_: it's best to do windows first, or windows will overwrite grub
[01:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I make a sym link?
[01:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> like /dev/modem
[01:08] <pozdiy> any other GUI for samba-client except NAutilus?
[01:08] <ompaul> guru54_, it is on the CD afik
[01:08] <erisco> navarone, alright i found it runs about 125-160 MHz
[01:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> That points to another /dev thing
[01:08] <erisco> navarone, so I might be looking for a 128MB?
[01:08] <dooglus> Biscuitian_Warhe: "ln -s /dev/something /dev/modem"
[01:08] <dooglus> Biscuitian_Warhe: although, for messing with /dev it's best to write a udev rule
[01:09] <dooglus> Biscuitian_Warhe: otherwise you'll be re-making the link every time you reboot
[01:09] <erisco> navarone, does that make any sense?
[01:09] <mustard5> phiqtion, so what do you get when type about:plugins in the address bar of firefox?
[01:09] <ryan_> dooglus, well i just realized i dont have a xp cd offhand, so i guess ill just go ubuntu only for now -- at least it will force me to learn linux quicker ;)
[01:09] <navarone> erisco> if you want a vidcard  for a 4x agp motherboard..get it and whatevr amount of memory you can afford
[01:09] <pdani_> hi
[01:09] <tyler_165> Anyone know anything about installing FireFox1.5??
[01:09] <nowh34> how can i convert a .avi file to a .vcd file?1?!
[01:09] <dooglus> ryan_: fair enough.
[01:09] <dooglus> ryan_: there's help here if you get stuck
[01:09] <pdani_> if i wrote a multisession cd, how can i grab the sessions one-by-one to iso-files?
[01:10] <erisco> navarone, i have no clue what my motherboard runs at
[01:10] <ompaul> guru54_, it is on the CD I just checked
[01:10] <ryan_> dooglus, should i go with k3b? the only thing i know about KDE is that its another GUI, i think.
[01:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> dooglus: How do I make a udev rule?
[01:10] <dooglus> ryan_: you could try gnome-baker or whatever it's called.
[01:10] <navarone> erisco> you just have to find out whether your motherboard has a agp slot that is 4x or 8x and buy yhte appropriate model
[01:10] <tyler_165> If I install a new program (Eclipse in my case), where in my HD should I put it so that it will show up under Applications?
[01:10] <adam__> hello
[01:10] <ompaul> ryan_, have a look at nautilus it works
[01:10] <dooglus> Biscuitian_Warhe: good question.  I did one recently for an ALPS touchpad, but I don't remember details.
[01:11] <ryan_> ompaul, thanks
[01:11] <nikcom> i found a solution to the log in problem
[01:11] <dooglus> Biscuitian_Warhe: I found it on the ubuntuforums site
[01:11] <nikcom> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/379843
[01:11] <erisco> navarone, ah ah, alright i think i can get this
[01:11] <nikcom> if anyone else comes in asking
[01:11] <nikcom> thanks guys cyas
[01:11] <erisco> navarone, i don't want the MHz
[01:11] <erisco> navarone, i think i found it
[01:11] <guru54_> ompaul, how do i get it off the cd without changing my sources?
[01:11] <navarone> erisco...in the device listing the motherboard name...find and googele...you should then find if it is agp 4x or 8x
[01:11] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about mplayer
[01:12] <erisco> navarone, i got it, there are several 845 models but i looked at them all and they all rune x1 x2 and x4, but not x8
[01:12] <ryan_> ompaul, should that already be installed?
[01:13] <erisco> navarone, so i am looking for a x4 graphics card
[01:13] <navarone> erisco...then buy the 4x card
[01:13] <mwe> SAM_theman: using /msg ubotu foobar will tell you too without everyone seeing your query
[01:13] <erisco> navarone, and the graphics card normally has a listing of it's speed?
[01:13] <adam__> hello, I have a problem with XMMS with stream-playing
[01:13] <navarone> erisco...if you mean the box...yes
[01:13] <adam__> can anyone help me?
[01:14] <ompaul> guru54_, put in the CD and wait for the gui to pop up then get yourself a terminal cded to the directory (pool/main/b/buildessential) and dpkg -i package_name
[01:14] <ryan_> hm
[01:14] <ompaul> ryan_, yes
[01:14] <erisco> navarone, and so i am just looking for AGP X4? just making sure
[01:14] <guru54_> thx ompaul
[01:14] <ompaul> guru54_, you say guru54_ so I think you can follow that :-)
[01:14] <dooglus> Biscuitian_Warhe: read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=466023&postcount=50 - it's about udev rules for ALPS touchpads, but might help you
[01:14] <adam__> ryan_, can I get you on privat chat?
[01:14] <ompaul> right I gotta split
[01:14] <navarone> erisco...yes...I would try a nvidia product. I have an Asus one...it uses nvidia chip
[01:15] <pdani_> any idea?
[01:15] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ firefox
[01:15] <SAM_theman> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[01:15] <SAM_theman> System error?:: Success
[01:15] <SAM_theman> wtf
[01:15] <erisco> navarone, linus supports all of the nvidia cards no?
[01:15] <SAM_theman> i just added java
[01:15] <erisco> navarone, linux rather
[01:15] <cafuego> erisco: Perhaps not the latest LATEST ones.
[01:16] <navarone> erisco...it varies I think...but most newer models and supported. I have an Asus V8200
[01:16] <erisco> cafuego, but my chances of picking up the wrong card is limited i hope
[01:16] <cafuego> erisco: After a new kernel release, styuff may change and nvidia always takes a week or two to catch up.
[01:16] <cam> can someone recommend a good web-page editing program (i've been using vim but i'm reallly kind of sick of doing this by hand... was thinking of something that combined some wysywig-lard to the text-editing methods)
[01:16] <cafuego> erisco: Well, pick one, aks here and more likely than not someone else has one too, and can tell you if it works :-)
[01:16] <erisco> navarone, cafuego,  it depends on what is available in my area, which is limited.
[01:16] <blanky> anyone here have kubuntu-desktop installed
[01:17] <navarone> erisco> where are you?
[01:17] <cafuego> erisco: Are you after an AGP card or a PCIe one?
[01:17] <erisco> navarone, cafuego, is there not a list of supported cards?
[01:17] <mwe> I believe the nvidia driver works with new cards as well
[01:17] <dooglus> blanky: I tried it, but it sucked, so I removed it again.  #kubuntu might be a good place to ask, too
[01:17] <erisco> navarone, in a village far, far away. no joke, our settlement classifies as a village. scary isn't it?
[01:17] <erisco> cafuego, AGP
[01:18] <cafuego> erisco: Then any nvidia card will work.
[01:18] <erisco> cafuego, i trust your judgement =)
[01:18] <erisco> navarone, cafuego, thanks for all your help
[01:18] <cafuego> erisco: I hear reports that the 5500 range is cheap and works well :-)
[01:18] <erisco> cafuego 5500 range? wow
[01:19] <erisco> cafuego dont exactly need anything that large... i need a AGP x4
[01:19] <erisco> cafuego, would i find this support on newer card ya think?
[01:19] <erisco> cafuego, or are they way beyond that?
[01:19] <cafuego> They'll probably do 2X, 4X and 8X.
[01:19] <navarone> erisco> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/video.html
[01:19] <bluefox83> i have a 5500 fx OC, i can run doom3 on medium graphics level just peachy (doesn't hurt that i have a gig of ram either..)
[01:20] <admrl> can anyone help me uninstall a program i installed from source
[01:20] <admrl> well uninstall the spca5xx drivers
[01:20] <phiqtion> Can somebody help me? i recently downloaded flash thru apt-get but firefox isn't recognizing it
[01:20] <WildPenguin> admrl, 'make uninstall'?
[01:20] <cafuego> admrl: Doubtful. Check what got installed and remove all files by hand. Do not kmake the same mistake twice. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:21] <admrl> i will try both
[01:21] <ryan_> dooglus, i cant seem to find that other partition folder now? did i have to save it somehow when i rebooted?
[01:21] <blanky> is anyone here running kubuntu-desktop or do you have it installed
[01:21] <cafuego> admrl: you MIGHT be able to re-install over the top via 'checkinstll' then remove the package.
[01:21] <blanky> dooglus, they're biased
[01:22] <erisco> navarone, that list is scaring me.... i do not quite understand it
[01:22] <erisco> navarone, is a chipset like AGP?
[01:22] <admrl> well im isntalling spca5xx
[01:22] <admrl> and i want everything gone from the previous go at it
[01:22] <admrl> ive installed it once
[01:22] <admrl> and it worked
[01:22] <admrl> but then it stopped
[01:22] <erisco> navarone, or is it my specific AGP model?
[01:23] <admrl> now if i try to use my webcam my computer freezes
[01:23] <navarone> erisco...it just lists videocards that are recognized and supported by Linux. Go to store and ask for Geforce3 nvidia card and see how much it is. That is what I have...only 64mb memory but gets me thru
[01:23] <cafuego> navarone: it might be hard to get something that crusty new these days.
[01:23] <erisco> navarone, 64MB would be absolutely perfect for me
[01:23] <navarone> erisco> you may be able to get same model with more memory
[01:23] <erisco> navarone, it is not like i game or anything
[01:23] <fdelacruz> gudmorning guys
[01:23] <admrl> cafuego: do you know anything about that..?
[01:23] <cafuego> erisco: What sort of budget do you have?
[01:24] <fdelacruz> I try udating my system and stilgot lots of error with the repo an problem with the repo
[01:24] <erisco> cafuego, well getting the card for $100 or less would be nice
[01:24] <navarone> cafuego> lol...I paid premium dollar when I got it...a short two and a half years ago
[01:24] <cafuego> erisco: *nod* that's easily done.
[01:24] <dooglus> blanky: so are we :)
[01:24] <cafuego> navarone: Same here for the 5700
[01:24] <dooglus> ryan_: if you want it to reappear when you boot, you'll need to add a line to /etc/fstab
[01:25] <blanky> hmm...but I'd rather hear bad news and make good of it than be bombarded with good news
[01:25] <cafuego> erisco: A 5500fx with 256MB ram should cost under $100
[01:25] <erisco> cafuego, navarone, do they even still produce 64MB cards or 32MB?
[01:25] <navarone> cafuego> Would like to try Far Cry too...but it may make ay rig cry
[01:25] <cafuego> erisco: matrox, maybe ;-)
[01:25] <navarone> erisco> maybe
[01:25] <erisco> cafuego, I was looking at a 256MB radeon for $100
[01:25] <navarone> erisco...buy it
[01:26] <cafuego> erisco: The problem with radeons is that the drivers for them are written by ATI.
[01:26] <navarone> what model tho?
[01:26] <erisco> navarone, not sure... i could check the ad again.
[01:26] <dooglus> ryan_: sudo bash -c "echo /dev/hda5 /media/ntfs ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 >> /etc/fstab"
[01:26] <cafuego> erisco: A 9200 or so would work fine with the free, open drivers. 9600s too these days i think.
[01:26] <erisco> navarone, if i got a 265MB i don't think I could take full advantage of it
[01:26] <navarone> nvidia seems to take linux support a little more seriously
[01:26] <Myk3> is there intel 3d drivers?
[01:26] <erisco> navarone, i doubt i wuold be using all it's memory
[01:27] <navarone> erisco...better too much than too little
[01:27] <blanky> a little, but that doesn't mean it supports it or anything
[01:27] <erisco> navarone, i guess, and hey it isn't my money lol
[01:27] <mwe> radeon 9800 and x800 works too
[01:27] <dooglus> blanky: kubuntu isn't as complete as ubuntu, in my experience.  they don't have anything to tell them when to update their system, for instance
[01:27] <cafuego> erisco: a 128MB 6200 should cost abpout $100 too
[01:27] <blanky> yep, i have 9800pro :D
[01:27] <blanky> dooglus, yeah, maybe soon they'll fix it, hopefully
[01:27] <Myk3>   and how can i figure out if my vid card supports 3d graphics?
[01:27] <navarone> erisco> agp card prices will come down. I think pci express is the next big thing
[01:27] <dooglus> blanky: I'm sure by the release of dapper it'll be all sorted out.
[01:27] <erisco> navarone, cafuego, i would like a 128MB if they are a lot cheaper, but otherwise I guess I should just get the 256
[01:28] <cafuego> navarone: As production on those grinds down, the prices will more likely go *up*
[01:28] <navarone> erisco> you havea  Best Buy close?
[01:28] <spikebike> anyone know if ubuntu can be installed from the commnand line?
[01:28] <mwe> dooglus: you can use the gnome auto-update thing in kde as well
[01:28] <spikebike> i.e. from a working linux box install ubuntu onto a partition
[01:28] <erisco> navarone, not that i know of
[01:28] <dooglus> mwe: I wouldn't want to be using both GNOME and KDE apps.  I have limited RAM
[01:29] <erisco> navarone, staples, wal-mart (lol)
[01:29] <boss_> anyone know how to install airsnort on ubuntu?
[01:29] <navarone> erisco> you can go to Staples...got my SB Live there
[01:29] <erisco> navarone, i could go to some computer shop... few of those
[01:29] <dooglus> boss_: enable the universe repository and it'll appear in synaptic
[01:29] <phiqtion> Can somebody help me? i recently downloaded flash thru apt-get but firefox isn't recognizing it
[01:29] <erisco> navarone, i like staples
[01:29] <boss_> ok
[01:29] <erisco> navarone, i want to pick up more ram too, 256 is not cutting it
[01:29] <mwe> dooglus: I see. I doubt the auto-updater uses a significant amount though, even when run from kde
[01:29] <boss_> ok
[01:29] <tyler> Where should I install my programs so that they show up under the Applications area?
[01:30] <navarone> erisco> I have had no probs with 256
[01:30] <Cody`> Can anyone tell me what the current backports url's are?
[01:30] <erisco> navarone, it maxes out all the time, which oddly ends up in my application closing
[01:30] <SAM_theman> ubuto: tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[01:30] <dooglus> mwe: it will keep the GTK libraries loaded
[01:30] <erisco> navarone, well i game, but i just run the online games
[01:30] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[01:30] <dooglus> Cody`: they're on the standard ubuntu mirrors
[01:30] <boss_> i love Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 600m
[01:30] <Myk3> does the intel 855gm card support 3d?
[01:30] <boss_> 40 gig hdd..
[01:30] <erisco> navarone, runescape is fun but high detail requires... 300MB ram or something?
[01:30] <navarone> erisco> I only play halo online in windows...and no bottlenecks
[01:30] <dooglus> Cody`: deb     http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:30] <boss_> 512 megs of ram
[01:31] <Cody`> dooglus: ty
[01:31] <Myk3> satelite 35x-s149 here
[01:31] <erisco> navarone, windows is nice on ram and hard on memory.... linux is the other way around
[01:31] <navarone> erisco> what processor you have?
[01:31] <erisco> navarone, which is good because ram is a lot cheaper
[01:31] <ericmoritz> does anyone know how to set up a 802.11 ad-hoc network?
[01:31] <Myk3> 512MB ram - 80GB hd and dual layer dvd burner
[01:31] <erisco> navarone, intel 1.8
[01:31] <erisco> navarone, works fine for all my needs
[01:31] <boss_> cool myk3
[01:31] <dooglus> phiqtion: install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:31] <erisco> navarone, my bottlenecks are my video and memory
[01:31] <Myk3> boos_ yea its cool
[01:31] <mustard5> phiqtion, what do you get when you type about:plugins in firefox address bar?
[01:31] <rhoffa> what do you guys use for p2p, i tried amule and hate it,
[01:31] <Myk3> boss_ yea its cool\
[01:31] <erisco> navarone, what do you expect for a $400 computer
[01:32] <dooglus> rhoffa: azureus
[01:32] <boss_> what are bottlenecks
[01:32] <SEJeff> rhoffa: gtk-gnutella
[01:32] <rhoffa> have been reading about apollon, anyone run that?
[01:32] <SEJeff> rhoffa: limewire
[01:32] <boss_> ???
[01:32] <boss_> limewire
[01:32] <SAM_theman> i am typing nvidia-settings not working!!!!!!!!
[01:32] <rhoffa> gtk-gnutella is that like gnucleus
[01:32] <ryan_> dooglus, i did that and nothing happened
[01:32] <Myk3> SAM- did u install both the files?
[01:32] <boss_> i would recommend.. if you needed  a starter box.. to go with www.tigerdirect.com
[01:32] <erisco> rhoffa, is that not the peer to peer client?
[01:32] <SAM_theman> yup
[01:32] <erisco> rhoffa, is there a guide on how to use that bloody thing?
[01:32] <rhoffa> no it is
[01:33] <rhoffa> gnucleus i use to use for windows
[01:33] <navarone> rhoffa> I use gtk-gnutella...but I prefer phex   http://phex.kouk.de/download.php
[01:33] <boss_> you can get a good computer for like 200 bucks
[01:33] <phiqtion> mustard5: shockwave flash and futuresplash player
[01:33] <rhoffa> what is phex and if you prefer it why aren tyou using it
[01:33] <SAM_theman> nevermind no
[01:33] <boss_> (stay away from the celerons.. 256 K l2 cache)
[01:33] <SAM_theman> lol
[01:33] <erisco> navarone, thanks for your help again, i gotta get going.... hours of homework to do
[01:34] <boss_> what is dapper?
[01:34] <rhoffa> navarone - what is the different and if you prefer phex why use the other?
[01:34] <SEJeff> boss_: The development release of ubuntu
[01:34] <boss_> erisco.. i hear ye
[01:34] <mustard5> phiqtion, so what part is not working?  as it seems to be installed
[01:34] <bluefox83> are the ubuntu developers british or something? O.o
[01:34] <boss_> ah
[01:34] <boss_> tks SEJeff
[01:34] <navarone> rhoffa> I am using it...it is basically a nicer gui and frontend for gnutella-gtk...comes in windows and linux flavours...you simply dl linux versiona nd extract into home directory. There is a readme in the new directory with instructions to use
[01:34] <phiqtion> mustard5: i try accessing a flash presentation on xbox.com and it's telling me to download flash
[01:34] <boss_> it took me a few days to start to understand where everyting is in linux
[01:35] <boss_> ...
[01:35] <seife> Someone help me installing my wireless network please !!!!
[01:35] <boss_> now.. how to figure out how to install apps from source..
[01:35] <SEJeff> boss_: Linux isn't really that hard, but it is very different
[01:35] <AbdulSpiegel> Hi
[01:35] <boss_> my wireless on my laptop works gr8
[01:35] <boss_> plug and play with ubuntu
[01:35] <ericmoritz> seife: what's wrong?
[01:35] <shaltrc> Any suggestions for Totem alternatives?  Totem doesn't work on my system
[01:35] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell seife about wireless
[01:35] <mustard5> phiqtion, so what type of system you running and what kernel?
[01:35] <AbdulSpiegel> Can someone help me out with getting an FTP program on Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.0.4
[01:36] <rhoffa> navarone - how do i install it i cant sudo apt-get install phex
[01:36] <SEJeff> shaltrc: install totem-xine
[01:36] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i get a decent output from this page? the fonts are like cuniforms :( http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/
[01:36] <phiqtion> kernel 10, ubuntu breezy
[01:36] <SEJeff> shaltrc: That will
[01:36] <phiqtion> mustard5: kernel 10, ubuntu breezy
[01:36] <rhoffa> ok the readme
[01:36] <navarone> rhoffa...look up the screen I pasted addy for download
[01:36] <AbdulSpiegel> Can someone help me out with getting an FTP program on Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.0.4
[01:36] <mustard5> phiqtion, 386 machine?
[01:36] <shaltrc> where do i download totem-xine?
[01:36] <cin_> Does anyone know how to get firestarter?
[01:36] <SEJeff> AbdulSpiegel: sudo apt-get install gftp
[01:36] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: there are several, gftp or you can even use nautilus
[01:36] <phiqtion> mustard5: yes
[01:36] <phiqtion> mustard5: pentium M
[01:36] <rhoffa> navarone - wheres the link
[01:37] <mustard5> phiqtion, hmmmm...
[01:37] <navarone> http://phex.kouk.de/download.php
[01:37] <SEJeff> shaltrc: sudo apt-get install totem-xine or install it through synaptic System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:37] <boss_> i love me!!!
[01:37] <SEJeff> cin_: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[01:37] <AbdulSpiegel> umm i went to http://gftp.seul.org/, but i dont know how to run those
[01:37] <mustard5> phiqtion, is your firefox installed via synaptic or you installed it yourself?
[01:37] <rhoffa> navarone - will it make me wait like amule, i cant stand that
[01:37] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: no, i don't do dcc. please ask in here directly
[01:37] <SEJeff> AbdulSpiegel: Read what I said, use apt-get or synaptic
[01:37] <phiqtion> mustard5: firefox came with ubuntu...
[01:37] <AbdulSpiegel> apt-get doesnt work for me
[01:38] <BadMackTuck> i just found out that i went to school with the girl who won sony's antonia bayle/everquest modeling contest. she's in stuff magazine this month
[01:38] <mustard5> phiqtion, you've restarted firefox since installing?
[01:38] <cin_> couldn't find firestarter
[01:38] <blanky> (I mean to ask you guys) if I install kubuntu-desktop right now, we know how buggy it is, is it possible to upgrade it in the future when newer ones come out
[01:38] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: no internet connection?
[01:38] <SEJeff> AbdulSpiegel: no dcc chat
[01:38] <phiqtion> AbdulSpiegel: try, apt-get update
[01:38] <BadMackTuck> i proposed to her on the soccer field... im freaked out
[01:38] <navarone> rhoffa> I have never used amule...but the longest wait is getting your ultrapeer hosts to all connect
[01:38] <phiqtion> mustard5: of course
[01:38] <SEJeff> cin_: Enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[01:38] <cin_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:38] <SEJeff> cin_: Then you can
[01:38] <cin_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:38] <cin_> E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[01:38] <cin_> how do I that?
[01:38] <SEJeff> !repos
[01:38] <ubotu> somebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:38] <AbdulSpiegel> i have updates, but last time i tried updating it took forever and it kinda secrewed up
[01:38] <AbdulSpiegel> i just need a way to upload and download programs
[01:38] <mvg> How do you add to wikipedia?
[01:38] <AbdulSpiegel> fiiles**
[01:39] <agnustic> Hello guys
[01:39] <robotgeek> mvg: wrong place to ask
[01:39] <boss_> has anyone had a good experience with wine?
[01:39] <mvg> figures
[01:39] <mvg> ..
[01:39] <mvg> sorry
[01:39] <navarone> boss> I think amny people have...<hic>
[01:39] <mustard5> phiqtion, ok...its a bit of a mystery really...I'm still thinking about it
[01:39] <phiqtion> mustard5: it
[01:39] <SEJeff> mvg: /j #mediawiki
[01:40] <boss_> is it better than vmware?
[01:40] <phiqtion> mustard5: it's totally weird. when i access xbox.com it plays a tiny flash presentation of perfect dark zero. but then i click on a xbox360 tour which is made completely out of flash and it says to download.
[01:40] <rhoffa> navarone i got this error after the readme instructions
[01:40] <mustard5> phiqtion, so which package di you install?
[01:40] <shaltrc> New to ubuntu/linux, trying to install totem-xine, getting message: Depends: libxine1c2 (>=1.0.1) but it is not installable
[01:41] <navarone> rhoffa what error?
[01:41] <blanky> better than vmware....HAHAHAHA
[01:41] <rhoffa> navarone - Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from phex.jar
[01:41] <mustard5> phiqtion, as there are two in the repos
[01:41] <dooglus> ryan_: it will happen when you boot.  or when you "sudo mount -a"
[01:41] <agnustic> I have an Ubuntu question regarding its webserver and e-mail. I have set up my Apache webserver and my email daemons. I can send out e-mails and my webserver serves locally. But I cannot receive any e-mails and the webpage doesn't get out on the web. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:41] <phiqtion> mustard5: flashplayer-mozilla
[01:41] <navarone> rhoffa...sorry you need java installed...you have it?
[01:41] <blanky> how do I remove a directory, force remove it (even if theres things inside it
[01:41] <dooglus> blanky: "rm -r <dir>"
[01:41] <mustard5> phiqtion, heh..I hate it when I get all the right answers and it still doesnt work :)
[01:41] <blanky> thanks i got it
[01:41] <AbdulSpiegel> Can someone help me out with getting an FTP program on Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.0.4
[01:41] <blanky> heh
[01:41] <dooglus> blanky: if the things are owned by other people, "sudo rm -r <dir>"
[01:41] <rhoffa> navarone - no just apt-get java
[01:41] <phiqtion> mustard5: it's totally weird. when i access xbox.com it plays a tiny flash presentation of perfect dark zero. but then i click on a xbox360 tour which is made completely out of flash and it says to download.
[01:41] <rhoffa> ?
[01:42] <dooglus> blanky: and if you don't want to be prompted about anything: "sudo rm -fr <dir>"
[01:42] <NCRPrint> When I booted Ubuntu today it said Unexpected Inconsistency, run FSCK manually
[01:42] <rhoffa> navarone - what the command for java installation
[01:42] <blanky> thanks
[01:42] <mustard5> phiqtion, so its partially working
[01:42] <NCRPrint> It asked for root pw and said, type something to mount manually
[01:42] <cin_> yo, so where do I go to enable the universal and multiverse repositories?
[01:42] <blanky> hey what's the differnece between abiword and openoffice writer, they feel the same (exactly)
[01:42] <boss_> do you hear me now?
[01:42] <AbdulSpiegel> Can someone help me out with getting an FTP program on Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.0.4
[01:42] <NCRPrint> Any ideas?
[01:43] <boss_> sry
[01:43] <boss_> thought i was disconnected
[01:43] <navarone> rhoffa go to Add Programs and Internet/More Programs and scroll down to Java...it will enable multiverse repo and install
[01:43] <phiqtion> mustard5: exactly. go to www.xbox.com and to you're right click where it says "Jump In"
[01:43] <bernardo> Hello
[01:43] <agnustic> I guess no one here hosts web servers with Ubuntu
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> agnustic: I do
[01:43] <mustard5> phiqtion, going there now....
[01:43] <mustard5> phiqtion, I'm on dialup so it might take a bit
[01:43] <phiqtion> mustard5: tell me if it loads for you. and notice how the perfect dark animation loads up perfectly
[01:43] <rhoffa> navarone - java web start?
[01:43] <phiqtion> mustard5: no problem bro
[01:44] <dooglus> AbdulSpiegel: client or server?
[01:44] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i get a decent output from this page? the fonts are like cuniforms :( http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/ (tried to install all the pertinent fonts i have found)
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> agnustic: and your need to work out your problem better
[01:44] <boss_> no
[01:44] <boss_> but that would be interesting
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> agnustic: some sort of error mesage coul be good
[01:44] <dducko> I need to rerun Grub,  but am unable to boot into Ubuntu (installed Windows)  Any pointers on doing this? I have  few livel cds,  Knoppix, Whax, Gentoo
[01:44] <boss_> hmm
[01:44] <AbdulSpiegel> dooglus: client i quess, i just want to upload and download stuff to my website
[01:44] <navarone> rhoffa...yes
[01:44] <dooglus> AbdulSpiegel: you get command line "ftp" program with hoary
[01:45] <bob832> blanky:  abiword is a stand along word processor that is "well suited for older hardware"
[01:45] <boss_> i h8 dialup
[01:45] <boss_> it blows
[01:45] <boss_> although.. since switching to linux.. it's speed has increased
[01:45] <AbdulSpiegel> i know
[01:45] <mustard5> phiqtion, heh..my browser has locked up so far.....
[01:45] <rhoffa> thanks navarone
[01:45] <blanky> bob832, oh lol
[01:45] <phiqtion> mustard5: what do you mean
[01:45] <opnsrc> Who took this nick?
[01:45] <AbdulSpiegel> dooglus: but its hard to follow and it wont ask for my username or pass so i cant really do anything
[01:45] <navarone> rhoffa> you may want to rename the phex folder to siimply phex as well cos you have to type it in to start...lol
[01:45] <AbdulSpiegel> dooglus: i also dont know how to change folder, im new at linux
[01:46] <opnsrc> IT says this nick is owned by someone else. I alwayse used it and it never said that before until now
[01:46] <phiqtion> mustard5: im gonna go eat something
[01:46] <rhoffa> navarone - still not working
[01:46] <rhoffa> same error
[01:46] <zodium> Anyone know of a good, paid ircd shell host?
[01:46] <mustard5> phiqtion, my browser has totally locked up...I can't even get it to maximize or minimise and its frozen
[01:46] <mustard5> phiqtion, k
[01:46] <opnsrc> Anywho, does anyone know how I can fix the problem?] 
[01:46] <Fujitsu> mustard5: Standard Breezy Firefox?
[01:46] <robotgeek> opnsrc: /msg nickserv identify <your password>
[01:46] <oshox> Okay, I've just finished my first ubuntu install. So far, I like it.
[01:46] <mustard5> Fujitsu, yep
[01:46] <Fujitsu> Breezy's Firefox has rather nasty memory leaks.
[01:46] <opnsrc> No, not that
[01:47] <opnsrc> the Ubuntu password
[01:47] <rhoffa> navarone Unable to access jarfile phex.jar
[01:47] <opnsrc> I think I never registered it. I used to use it a lot and then someone else registered it
[01:47] <cin_> ok,  anyone know of good spyware checkers?
[01:47] <navarone> rhoffa> what command you type in terminal?
[01:47] <opnsrc> I should have actually
[01:47] <opnsrc> It's a good nick, now someone took it from me
[01:47] <rhoffa> java -jar phex.jar
[01:47] <opnsrc> :(
[01:47] <mustard5> Fujitsu, I'm troubleshooting an issue with phiqtion with flash and firefox
[01:47] <boss_> mustard5: may i recommend rebooting KDe of Gnome.. whatever you might have
[01:47] <navarone> rhoffa...ar you in the h9ome directory?
[01:47] <rhoffa> ?
[01:48] <navarone> rhoffa> in terminal type cd and enter
[01:48] <oshox> How can I play mp3's? Neither XMMS or rythmbox will.
[01:48] <boss_> where can i register my nick?
[01:48] <mustard5> boss_, I've just killed firefox process
[01:48] <opnsrc> Anywho, with Ubuntu when I boot it says Inconsistency found, run FSCK manually
[01:48] <rhoffa> navarone - did that
[01:48] <Siph0n> hey, if i get a msg saying sound is busy, how do i stop it so i will get sound in my game? :)
[01:48] <rhoffa> still wont work
[01:48] <Siph0n> im getting this msg: open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:48] <Siph0n> ....
[01:48] <snowowl> Has anyone configured any thin clients
[01:48] <opnsrc> and it asks for the root pw and says, type mount something to mound root in read write mode
[01:48] <snowowl> networks?
[01:49] <boss_> mustard5: ok
[01:49] <navarone> rhoffa> you need to type this  cd /home/<user>/phex  <enter> and then command to start phex
[01:49] <ryan_> *question* im trying to install qtella, this is my first time trying to install anything on linux, im in the tar.gz directory and i ran ./configure, it gave me an error saying i have no c compiler to create an executeable
[01:49] <robotgeek> Siph0n: losf /dev/dsp ?
[01:49] <boss_> , did that fix anyting?
[01:49] <navarone> rhoffa> assuming you changed folder to "phex"
[01:49] <rhoffa> navarone i still didnt install i dont think from the .jar
[01:49] <robotgeek> ryan_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:49] <rhoffa> do i have to do that with the java command
[01:49] <rhoffa> yes i did
[01:49] <snowowl> Has anyone configured any thin clients
[01:49] <Siph0n> losf not a command? sorry robotgeek im not good with commands...
[01:50] <seife> I need a wlan guru, i need urgent help
[01:50] <robotgeek> Siph0n: lsof
[01:50] <boss_> i have an airsnort tar.gz and i can't install it
[01:50] <ryan_> robotgeek, thanks would you mind explaining what exactly thats doing? im very new to this =)
[01:50] <mustard5> phiqtion, ok..I got it loading now....
[01:50] <navarone> rhoffa...did you extract the zip contents to hoem directory?
[01:50] <robotgeek> ryan_: that will install gcc and other stuff required to compile anything
[01:50] <boss_> it's saying error: c compiler cannot create executables
[01:50] <boss_> wat's up seife?
[01:50] <opnsrc> (Ubuntu is on my other computer)
[01:50] <rhoffa> navarone got it
[01:51] <seife> man i just cant get wireless internet
[01:51] <rhoffa> now i have to type that command everytime to open it?
[01:51] <navarone> rhoffa is it running?
[01:51] <rhoffa> yes
[01:51] <ryan_> robotgeek, thanks
[01:51] <seife> i have been trying to solve this like for a week
[01:51] <navarone> rhoffa> okay the terminal you gave command in will stay opent ill you close phex
[01:51] <builder> I set my colorscheme for Vim (on Ubuntu) but only the line numbers took the color. THe background is still all white and the text is still all black. How do I get the colorscheme to work right?
[01:51] <phiqtion> mustard5: what system u on?
[01:51] <navarone> rhoffa> now set up your folders for downloads and sharing
[01:52] <mustard5> phiqtion, breezy 386 kernel
[01:52] <navarone> rhoffa> you may need to fiddle with the connections setup...I use 4 ultrpeers to connect to and leave the rest at 32 and 32 in Gnutella net screen
[01:52] <rhoffa> and if i close the terminal so does the program.. haha i jsut figured out
[01:52] <phiqtion> mustard6: tell me what you get when you type about:plugins
[01:53] <cagapozo> hello
[01:53] <cagapozo> Hello all.  Just installed Kubuntu but cannot play midi.  I have SBLive.  Any help will be appreciated, thanks in advance
[01:53] <bob832> so whats the "secure" way to setup ssh compared to the setup described in the starter guide?
[01:53] <navarone> rhoffa> I use phex mostly cos I cannot for the life of me figure out filters in gtk-gnutella...lol
[01:53] <spikebike> bob um the started guide is somehow not secure?
[01:54] <mustard5> phiqtion, flashplugin and futuresplash
[01:54] <rhoffa> haha navarone - do i need to open ports for my firewall
[01:54] <bob832> in the index, for the link for ssh, it has in parenthesis not secure
[01:54] <seife> boss_, ?
[01:54] <phiqtion> mustard5: this sucks :(
[01:54] <navarone> trhoffa> you can start searching as soona sone ultrapeer connect and you see your ip at the left...but wait for all to connect for better search results
[01:54] <mustard5> phiqtion, well its locked up my browser once...then when I click on Jump In my browser crashed
[01:54] <navarone> rhoffa> no
[01:55] <bob832> oops my mistake, looked at the wrong one
[01:55] <bob832> :-/
[01:55] <rhoffa> ok
[01:55] <mustard5> phiqtion, I'm thinking its a problem with the site
[01:55] <spikebike> a hole in the wall ;-)
[01:55] <spikebike> oops
[01:55] <rhoffa> so it is running and it automatically connects to servers as well
[01:55] <navarone> rhoffa> also I find clicking the GWebcache button can help as well
[01:55] <seife> I need a wlan guru, i need urgent help
[01:55] <navarone> rhoffa> you can set it to auto connect or do it manually
[01:56] <holycow> http://www.tecspy.com/blogs/loveslugradio/2005/11/  <-- hehe
[01:56] <mustard5> phiqtion, is there sound in the flash animation..cause I am on skype atm too
[01:56] <rhoffa> whers the gwebcache button and whats it do
[01:56] <blanky> I'd give anything for faster rendering of windows, i have a good system too...
[01:56] <tj_is_cool> what is that sources.list maker?
[01:56] <blanky> my windows lag when I drag them on top of other windows
[01:56] <navarone> rhoffa> I usually change appearance as well...but the change doesn't stay if you shut down...not a big deal
[01:56] <lsuactiafner> blanky : fluxbox
[01:57] <DrBair> blanky:  what video card do you have?
[01:57] <lsuactiafner> or my favourite, blackbox
[01:57] <navarone> rhoffa...the chache button is on Gnuteelanet tab...close to bottom right
[01:57] <blanky> guys: I want GNOME
[01:57] <blanky> DrBair, I have an ATI 9800 PRO 128mb, drivers working
[01:57] <navarone> rhoffa> Sometimes it is active and you can click it
[01:57] <z0rz> What's the package to install the compiling essentials?
[01:57] <z0rz> I forgot the name
[01:57] <seife> I need a wlan guru, i need urgent help
[01:58] <phiqtion> mustard5: yes, there is sound
[01:58] <navarone> zorz>build0essentials
[01:58] <rhoffa> it seems to be running really sluggish, whiting out and stuff
[01:58] <mustard5> z0rz, build-essential
[01:58] <z0rz> thanks nava and mustard
[01:58] <blanky> guys, when I install xfce or fluxbox, do I need to install their ubuntu stuff, like xubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <navarone> my typing is getting worse
[01:58] <DrBair> blanky:  does glxinfo confirm that you are in direct rendering mode (not that I think it should slow it down that bad in 2d otherwise)
[01:58] <towsheba> Does any one here know how to restore window makers defualt menu
[01:58] <blanky> or just xfce or fluxbox
[01:58] <agnustic> bbiab
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of a link documenting the following extremly well, 0000:05:0a.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)
[01:58] <rhoffa> everytime i minimize this window it takes that program a lil while to let me view what was underneath
[01:59] <blanky> DrBair, where does it say that, I ran the command
[01:59] <mustard5> phiqtion, that might be causing me some issues as skype doesnt like sharing sound
[01:59] <rhoffa> and im on a decent processor too
[01:59] <blanky> DrBair, yes it is in direct rendering
[01:59] <navarone> rhoffa> probably cos it is java
[01:59] <mustard5> phiqtion, see if you can get someone else to test the website in there browser
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> what raid level is just to increase speed without redunancy?
[01:59] <DrBair> blanky:  its the 3rd or so line I believe, it says 'direct rendering: '
[01:59] <phiqtion> mustard5: on windowsxp it runs great
[02:00] <navarone> rhoffa> I usually move terminal to another workplace as well...keeps you from closing it by accident
[02:00] <phiqtion> mustard5: on my ex installation of ubuntu it also ran great
[02:00] <blanky> DrBair, yes it is in direct rendering
[02:00] <phiqtion> mustard5: i think im missing something
[02:00] <towsheba> Does any one here know how to restore window makers defualt menu?
[02:00] <afabian> Anyone know why scummvm and pysol don't have sound when I start them from GNOME's menu, but *not* when I start them from gnome-terminal?
[02:00] <rhoffa> ok, will a second search replace the old results or a new tab
[02:00] <mustard5> phiqtion, see it someone else can test it to confirm its a browser issue
[02:01] <rhoffa> is there a way to clear my search results each time i search instead of a list however knows long
[02:01] <navarone> rhoffa> If you do multiple searches you must click the one you want to view results. You can right click term ins earch box to stop/restart/close search
[02:01] <mustard5> phiqtion, skype is eating up all the bandwidth I have atm...and I'm chatting to my girlfriend :)
[02:01] <phiqtion> mustard5: i understand
[02:02] <phiqtion> mustard5: thank you
[02:02] <rhoffa> navarone - oh ok i got it nopw
[02:02] <rhoffa> \now
[02:02] <bluefox83> hey, to update grub you typ ein update-grub right?
[02:02] <navarone> rhoffa> can get confusing with many searches open
[02:02] <bluefox83> *type in
[02:02] <rhoffa> yea definatly
[02:02] <oshox> Okay, how do I access NTFS partitons? I added them in the Disk manager.
[02:03] <conn> hi, I just installed the DRI snapshots on my system, and it seems to have worked (fixed a specific bug in the r128 driver).. however, the screen refresh is very slow, noticeable when scrolling in Firefox or even irc, can someone help me troubleshoot?
[02:03] <mrkoje> mustard: how much bandwidth can skype possibly eat up? shouldn't be more then 30kbps
[02:03] <rhoffa> it kinda sucks you have to type that in everytime to get it to open
[02:03] <mustard5> Can someone test the flash animation at this site please in firefox on breezy? http://www.xbox.com/en-US/
[02:03] <navarone> rhoffa>When you do search you can go to filters and enter text to look for or use drop down to specify file type and then press filter to only get the file types yopu want
[02:04] <rhoffa> yea alright thanks
[02:04] <navarone> rhoffa> yeah...you can probaly make a launcher and specify command plus run in terminal...but I need all the typing practice I can get
[02:04] <rhoffa> you were a big help
[02:04] <mrkoje> flash is working fine with ff here
[02:04] <mustard5> mrkoje, I'm on 56k dialup
[02:04] <rhoffa> navarone how would i do that
[02:05] <rhoffa> i never set a launcher
[02:05] <navarone> rhoffa...let me try and see if it works
[02:05] <rhoffa> because id have to combine the folder change with the java command i guess right?
[02:05] <mrkoje> mustard5: oh ok... I thought you had an atm connection
[02:06] <mustard5> mrkoje, yeah I was trying to test a page for someone with a flash animation..but its taking forever to download and making my voice tinny on skype
[02:06] <natdigga_> I'm running breezy 5.10 how can I found out what kernel version I'm running?
[02:06] <mustard5> mrkoje, :)
[02:07] <mustard5> natdigga, uname -r
[02:07] <oshox> What do I have to do to let all users access local NTFS partitons?
[02:08] <natdigga_> I'm trying to fix my ati drivers so I'll do something like sudo apt-get install linux-restriced-modules-2.6.12-10-386
[02:08] <natdigga_> xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:09] <mustard5> natdigga_, I think the restriced-modules contain stuff for nvidia not ati ..I'll just confirm
[02:09] <natdigga_> mustard, okay I picked this up from the !ati from ubutuno bot
[02:09] <natdigga_> !ati
[02:09] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:09] <natdigga_> mustard, that last url
[02:10] <mustard5> natdigga, yeah I just saw the ati references in my synaptic description
[02:10] <natdigga_> okay so I'm good using that?
[02:10] <luisito> hello
[02:11] <luisito> anybody knows if I can open a macintosh *.sit file in linux?
[02:11] <mustard5> natdigga_, you can do a sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-'uname -r' I believe
[02:11] <f3ar> can someone point me in the right direction for dual booting ubuntu and winxp...i already have ubuntu installed and only have one partition as of now....
[02:11] <mustard5> natdigga_, as long as the end matched the output of uname -r its ok
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> is there a command/programme in ubuntu to get an md5sum of a file?
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> or any kind of hash
[02:12] <natdigga_> mustard, so I can just use the actual word uname -r or use the version typed out?
[02:12] <navarone> rhoffa> can't figure it out...but will look a bit more later
[02:12] <mustard5> natdigga_, both  but if you use uname -r  I am pretty sure the syntax is   'uname -r'   with the single quotes
[02:13] <natdigga_> ok
[02:13] <mustard5> natdigga_, I have also seen the syntax $(uname -r)
[02:13] <natdigga_> ok I'll try both.
[02:14] <redguy> isn' it `uname -r` ? with backticks?
[02:14] <eric> Anyone ever seen this error when starting firefox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5251
[02:14] <mustard5> natdigga_, you can type it in manually too of course, but they are the shortcut methods
[02:14] <rhoffa> navarone - ok pm me if you have any luck
[02:14] <mustard5> redguy, ah ok
[02:14] <mustard5> natdigga_, they are backticks not single quotes sorry
[02:14] <natdigga_> oh okay
[02:14] <mustard5> natdigga_, the ones on the tilda key
[02:14] <natdigga_> yeah :)
[02:14] <Lagi> hi there, i am having an issue with my ubuntu box. I had it running earlier today and decided i didnt need my sound card anymore so i turned it off and gave it to my friend, when i rebooted, i have been getting error messages saying unable to locate file systems and unable to mount local filesystems  it then has a bunch of errors ending in grep: command not found.
[02:14] <natdigga_> I tried fixing my driver and messed up my xwindows
[02:15] <natdigga_> but got it back going
[02:15] <mustard5> natdigga_, k
[02:15] <mustard5> natdigga_, tell us how you go
[02:15] <natdigga_> oh it's going to be slow.
[02:15] <Lagi> shortly after, my friend told me that his ubuntu box was having a similar error and could not boot his box either
[02:15] <natdigga_> mustqsard, this should fix my opengl 3d acceleror issue right?
[02:16] <bob832> how can i enable ssh?  if everyone recalls, my school's admin locked me out of the network for "spamming" and he disabled ssh and i'm not sure how to re-enable it
[02:16] <mustard5> natdigga_, I'm a nvidia person myself, so I'm not real sure about ATI but I would think it should
[02:16] <boss__> i love my ati card
[02:16] <natdigga_> mustard, mmkay thanks.
[02:16] <ryan_> anyone know of a tutorial to explain how to access files on a ntfs partition?
[02:16] <boss__> ATI Radeoon 9000
[02:16] <boss__> awesome!!!
[02:16] <mustard5> hey Kendrick_ :)
[02:16] <Kendrick_> ryan read or write?
[02:17] <natdigga_> I'm using a 3D Rage LT Pro APG-133
[02:17] <natdigga_> it's about 5 years old
[02:17] <definity> jey
[02:17] <definity> hey
[02:17] <ryan_> kendrick_ um i want to be able to move them over and burn them to a cd so i can format
[02:17] <boss__> i can't find any other the prog's i install with synaptic
[02:17] <mustard5> ryan_, yeah..I have a script
[02:17] <definity> i got a question
[02:17] <Kendrick_> from ntfs or to ntfs?
[02:17] <ryan_> kendrick_ im in hour #2 of my linux experience =) very newb
[02:18] <seife> i need wifi help, someone help me plz.
[02:18] <ryan_> mustard5, awesome thanks =P you guys helpedme get it before but it didnt stay
[02:18] <Lagi> has anyone else been having the same problem? i think its kinda strange that we are both having the same error on different boxes with the same version of ubuntu
[02:18] <ryan_> mustard5, do i have to save everything when i logout or something?
[02:18] <metrix> Is there a command to list all the files that were extracted out of a package?
[02:18] <definity> i downloaded a theam for my login screen and i went to install it but it said that the file was not a tar.gz when it was???
[02:18] <mustard5> ryan_, ok...can we go to a #kubuntu-offtopic because this channel is a bit busy
[02:18] <robotgeek> seife: do you know what wireless card you have?
[02:18] <f3ar> whats up seife
[02:19] <boss__> where are the progs i installed?
[02:19] <boss__> ther are not on my applications menu
[02:19] <nelposto> anyone able to help me with some audio issues?
[02:19] <Fujitsu> boss__: Which ones?
[02:19] <frogzo1> where are the proxy setting for apt-get ?
[02:19] <boss__> airsnort
[02:19] <Fujitsu> boss__: What is airsnort?
[02:20] <definity> so why cant it load up the tar.gz even thoguht it is one?
[02:20] <boss__> it's a wireless b security tester
[02:20] <anavim> how do I set up command keys to switch which screen session I'm in?
[02:20] <definity> lol tester
[02:20] <seife> robotgeek, no man i dont know
[02:20] <jsubl2> nelposto: just ask your question.. you might get lucky
[02:20] <bungle> yah
[02:20] <robotgeek> seife: lshw | less
[02:21] <bungle> I fixed my pc
[02:21] <seife> i just know that is a lanexpress ieee 802.11b with a intersil prism 2.5 wavelan chipset, but i dont know wich vendor
[02:21] <robotgeek> bungle: yay
[02:21] <nelposto> jsubl2: haha yeah
[02:21] <bungle> lol how is ya robotgeek
[02:21] <Fujitsu> boss__: Is it meant to have a GUI? Is it meant to install links to the Applications menu? If it is meant to, you may have to log out and in again, if not, you will have to start it manually.
[02:21] <seife> im going format man im tired, nothing is working
[02:21] <ajmitch> bungle: well done :)
[02:21] <boss__> ok
[02:21] <f3ar> seife have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:21] <robotgeek> seife: prism2 might work ootb.
[02:21] <boss__> bbiab
[02:21] <definity> can some one help me on my theam problem???????????????????????????????
[02:21] <bungle> heya ajmitch
[02:21] <bungle> :D
[02:21] <nelposto> So I'm running the livecd on my dell laptop.. which has a little mini subwoofer in it... but ubuntu wont detect the subwoofer
[02:21] <bungle> mmmm snes is calling me
[02:22] <robotgeek> seife: if you gimme a couple of minutes, i'll help you out. i'm troubleshooting a wireless problem of mine :)
[02:22] <nelposto> would that be some sort of driver issue or..?
[02:22] <definity> dose any one here know gtk?
[02:23] <jsubl2> nelposto: how did you determine it is not detected
[02:23] <holycow> http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/svgtetris/svgtetris.svg   <-- for those of you that have firefox 1.5 final running , first implementation of svg tetris
[02:23] <opnsrc> hey all
[02:23] <nelposto> jsubl2: everything sounds like tinny country road side radio
[02:23] <definity> hey
[02:23] <nelposto> jsubl2 perhaps it is being detected, but is at 0 volume
[02:23] <nelposto> jsubl2: in windows it has its own volume slider
[02:24] <definity> flkdmokrmdfvad
[02:24] <jsubl2> nelposto: run alsamixer and check there
[02:24] <definity> fd
[02:24] <Fujitsu> holycow: I found that this morning. Quite good, I must say.
[02:25] <Fujitsu> Brb
[02:27] <boss_> howdy y'all
[02:27] <definity> hi
[02:27] <f3ar> hey can anyone explain what this means: checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[02:27] <f3ar> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[02:27] <natdigga_> mustard, err...this isn't good is it?  Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:28] <nelposto> jsubl2: aha i found it, thanks alot
[02:28] <definity> why dose my ubuntu say it cant find a .tar.gz file when i point it to a .tar.gz file?
[02:28] <natdigga_> err...this isn't good is it?  Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:28] <boss_> i tried to login.. but i can't find the link to the prog i just installed
[02:28] <endersshadow> exit
[02:28] <robotgeek> f3ar: apt-cache search gtk | grep dev
[02:28] <boss_> ....
[02:29] <Khaaaaan> Is there a way to minimize Xchat to the sys tray?
[02:30] <f3ar> robotgeek, okay i did that...i just listed a whole bunch of packages..
[02:30] <nickrud> Khaaaaan, you can use xchat-systray in universe
[02:30] <nickrud> *install
[02:30] <Khaaaaan> Is it a plugin?
[02:30] <SEJeff> Khaaaaan, sudo apt-get xchat-systray
[02:30] <SEJeff> Khaaaaan: Yes
[02:30] <nickrud> *install :)
[02:30] <agroker> Khaaaaan, http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q220
[02:30] <Khaaaaan> Does it just ummm.... plug itself in?
[02:32] <houseoftainted> can someone tell me how to install a program called snes9x?
[02:32] <houseoftainted> for linux?
[02:32] <definity> dose any one how i can redirect my port for irc to one that is not blocked?
[02:32] <boss_> hmm
[02:32] <Khaaaaan> Okay, so now the big question... who wants to help me  trouble shoot Enemy Territory sound??
[02:32] <boss_> found my link
[02:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone have cedega working well in ubu?
[02:32] <boss_> hmm
[02:33] <BotBuilder> Can I get a bit of help installing ubuntu server on a super old computer (64 mb ram, 200mhz p1)?
[02:33] <The_Isle_of_Mark> BotBuilder that isnt old...8086 procs are old
[02:33] <mustard5> natdigga_, you may need to enable extra repositories
[02:33] <BotBuilder> The problem im having is actually booting to the install disk
[02:33] <boss_> who wants to play a network game of Gnibbles
[02:33] <mikonian> hi there
[02:33] <agroker> where can I get midnight commander for hoary?
[02:33] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  i dont know how to use synaptic ^_^
[02:33] <definity> hi
[02:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> BotBuilder, make a boot floppy
[02:34] <mikonian> how can i configue gnome bittorrent??
[02:34] <boss_> : raises eyebrows :
[02:34] <boss_> wat u need a server 4 botbuiler?
[02:34] <natdigga_> mustard, ...you know what I'm about to ask :)  How do I do that?
[02:34] <natdigga_> mustard, or where can I find that info?
[02:34] <guru54__> does anyone know if gcc or buildessentials are on the ubuntu 5.10 disc
[02:34] <BotBuilder> it says "ISOLINUX 2.04" can't find it's spec packet, then it says its trying to 'wing it'
[02:34] <neoplasticity> anyone know of a way to get vlc to play realmedia, wmv, and quicktime files?
[02:34] <siimo> anyone using firefox 1.5 ?
[02:34] <mustard5> natdigga_, ok one sec and I'll be with you..I can see a syntax error in your command btw
[02:34] <siimo> im seeing http://jimmac.musichall.cz/wipicons/cursors//resize-top.png  as the autoscroll cursor instead of http://jimmac.musichall.cz/wipicons/cursors//tool-flip-vertical.png  (it was correct in 1.0.7)   X-(
[02:34] <BotBuilder> Then it says something about not being able to find the disk drive or somesuch
[02:34] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I'll just get a how to link
[02:34] <natdigga_> mustard, kk
[02:34] <boss_> redownload it
[02:34] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  thanks :)
[02:35] <mustard5> houseoftainted, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:35] <BotBuilder> boss - me?
[02:35] <boss_> and burn it
[02:35] <mustard5> natdigga, I'm just reading you HOW TO again...
[02:35] <boss_> make a boot disk
[02:35] <mikonian> how can i configue gnome bittorrent??
[02:35] <Oceansblue> yes firefox 1.5 here
[02:35] <BotBuilder> I'll try booting to it from a good comp
[02:35] <BotBuilder> boss - i have
[02:35] <boss_> being a PI, it still has a floppy drive
[02:35] <boss_> make sure u put cd rom drivers on it
[02:35] <natdigga_> kk, I've read this bad boy like 3 times
[02:35] <BotBuilder> Oh
[02:36] <houseoftainted>  mustard5  abd this would install the program i need or help me understand?
[02:36] <boss_> yeah bots
[02:36] <boss_> srry
[02:36] <BotBuilder> I suppose it might have driver issues
[02:36] <mustard5> houseoftainted, help you understand .its installed already
[02:36] <boss_> hmm
[02:36] <boss_> kk
[02:36] <BotBuilder> brb, I'm chatting right now on the good comp
[02:36] <definity> can i have soem help on instaling this login theam?!?!?!
[02:36] <BotBuilder> so I'll be back with the verdict
[02:36] <boss_> how do i use dapper?
[02:36] <boss_> lmao
[02:36] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  i was told to use this program to install a program known as snes9x
[02:37] <mustard5> natdigga_, you've entered this according to you message above linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386xorg-driver-fglrx   and it should be this  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386
[02:37] <mikonian> how can i configue gnome bittorrent??
[02:37] <guru54__> does anyone know if gcc or buildessentials are on the ubuntu 5.10 disc
[02:37] <natdigga_> oh okay I'll take the back part off
[02:37] <Lagi> can anyone help me? i get an error when ubuntu tries to mount local filesystems
[02:37] <mustard5> houseoftainted, yep you use the search function in synaptic ..
[02:37] <Rev-Marc> any help with connecting a pocketpc pda to ubuntu?
[02:37] <Lagi> it was booting fine earlier. >.>
[02:37] <boss_> i don't think they are
[02:37] <mustard5> houseoftainted, type 'sne' in the search feild
[02:38] <natdigga_> mustard, ok it says it's at the newest version so I need to go to step 3
[02:38] <boss_> (guru)
[02:38] <neoplasticity> do they have a ubuntu package for firefox 1.5 final release yet?
[02:38] <mustard5> natdigga_, checking the HOW TO...
[02:38] <fdelacruz> gudmornng
[02:38] <natdigga_> mustard, ok got two copies of xorg.conf
[02:38] <boss_> good.. u can read
[02:39] <pepsi> :Q
[02:39] <mustard5> natdigga_, so you've backed up you are saying ?
[02:39] <natdigga_> mustard, yup got 2 copies
[02:39] <mustard5> natdigga_, k
[02:39] <natdigga_> mustard, I'm on the webpage that he talked about now.
[02:39] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  it didnt work, i downloaded a tar.gz from the website and extracted it
[02:39] <mustard5> natdigga_, I'm trying to make sense of where you are up to on the page
[02:39] <SpAwN> hello i have a quick question
[02:39] <agnustic> Man Ubuntu is 98 % and 2 percent - How in the hell do I get this to work
[02:40] <mustard5> houseoftainted, when you say didn't work, can you elaborate on that?
[02:40] <SpAwN> im think of dling ubuntu but was wondering a few thing
[02:40] <natdigga_> mustard in section three where it says Go here
[02:40] <natdigga_> mustard, two paragraphs after the code:
[02:40] <SpAwN> i want the dvd...but i noticed a few diff dvds
[02:40] <SpAwN> whats the powerpc version?
[02:40] <Lagi> maybe ill try asking later when the channel isnt so busy, lol. it is kinda weird anyways.
[02:40] <houseoftainted> mustard5, sorry, when i searched for the file using the term "sne" the field didnt return the results i was looking for
[02:40] <natdigga_> mustard, so I went to that link he offered. where he said look at seciton 5. Configure X
[02:40] <mustard5> houseoftainted, you may need to enable extra repositories
[02:40] <ajmitch> SpAwN: for powerpc cpus, eg apple macs
[02:41] <SpAwN> ohh git ya
[02:41] <SpAwN> *got
[02:41] <spikebike> i.e. apple macs for now ;-)
[02:41] <antdengineer> hey, how does one kill x without it restarting
[02:41] <mustard5> houseoftainted, when I finish with natdigga_ I can help you more easily :)
[02:41] <SpAwN> and like is there a non public one out there with more drivers or stuff?
[02:41] <natdigga_> mustard so I'm on this page http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#install, at section 5
[02:41] <ajmitch> SpAwN: no
[02:41] <SpAwN> maby u have to pay a small fee for
[02:41] <SpAwN> allright
[02:41] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok :) im enjoying this anyways im learning alot ^_^ linux is like an addicting drug
[02:41] <natdigga_> mustard where it's telling me to do...Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
[02:41] <logical_mark> Hey I am getting an error removing a package. The error is: "E: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127" any one help me out?
[02:42] <natdigga_> houseoftainted, amen
[02:42] <siimo> how do i back up my entire /  ? can i do it when i am booted in the same linux?
[02:42] <Khaaaaan> Does anyone know why when I try to play ET it says "sound muted" in the cosole and thus plays no sound??
[02:42] <mustard5> natdigga_, you on the wiki guide or the forum guide?
[02:42] <SpAwN> how bout video card and sound card support?....like they have support for recently new products....like last years stuff
[02:42] <Khaaaaan> When the  sound is not at all muted?
[02:42] <natdigga_> mustard, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:42] <ajmitch> SpAwN: generally, yes
[02:42] <boss_> ubuntu is pretty cool
[02:42] <antdengineer> i keep trying to kill it but i cant get it to stay dead.  Anyone no how to kill x so that it wont restart itself
[02:42] <mustard5> natdigga_, heh..that would explain my confusion..I'm on the wiki guide ;)
[02:42] <SpAwN> cool
[02:42] <BotBuilder> Ok, the boot cd is fine
[02:43] <natdigga_> mustard, my bad
[02:43] <boss_> (now that i know what i'm doin kinda)
[02:43] <SpAwN> i think im gonna give it a go
[02:43] <SpAwN> LD
[02:43] <SpAwN> :D
[02:43] <BotBuilder> Works fine on the good comp
[02:43] <BotBuilder> its a problem with the hardware
[02:43] <boss_> wb bots
[02:43] <BotBuilder> thanks boss
[02:43] <siimo> can i do something like  mount hda1 which is entire / on /mnt/root  and mount another drive hdb1 on /mnt/backup and cp -R /mnt/root /mnt/backup ?
[02:43] <dooglus> antdengineer: one types "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[02:43] <BotBuilder> Someone said something about a boot floppy?
[02:43] <houseoftainted> BotBuilder, im runnin ubuntu on an itel pentium 2 processor 200 mhz 64 mb ram :)
[02:43] <BotBuilder> I could install over a network
[02:43] <houseoftainted> and it runs realllly good
[02:43] <houseoftainted> xD
[02:43] <agnustic> ubuntu refuses to serve the webpage past the localhost
[02:43] <BotBuilder> houseoftainted - nice
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> houseoftainted: sure it does
[02:44] <ks1> how can i get ubuntu to boot into a text-mode instead of graphical all the time? i tried update-rc.d stop gdm 99 1 2 3 4 5 6 .
[02:44] <antdengineer> dooglus: while in gnome?
[02:44] <dooglus> antdengineer: whenever you like
[02:44] <antdengineer> dooglus: cool, thanks dude
[02:44] <houseoftainted> HrdwrBoB, i meant considering its speed :x
[02:44] <mustard5> natdigga, ok you need to sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:44] <BotBuilder> Is it possible to have some sort of tiny floppy OS that allows me to install ubuntu over the network?
[02:44] <agnustic> Might as well go back to Slackware
[02:45] <natdigga_> mustard, xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[02:45] <ks1> does anyone know?
[02:45] <mustard5> natdigga_, k
[02:45] <dooglus> ks1: you could "sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm /etc/rc2.d/K01gdm"
[02:45] <mustard5> natdigga_, you want the controls too?
[02:45] <agnustic> later guys
[02:45] <boss_> yeah
[02:45] <mustard5> natdigga_, sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[02:45] <natdigga_> natdigga, guess so for later down the road?
[02:45] <dooglus> ks1: or you could try to work out how to use update-rc.d properly...
[02:45] <ks1> dooglus, so it kills gdm at the start?
[02:46] <boss_> any accomplished hackers in here?
[02:46] <BotBuilder> Someone also said something about cd-rom drivers
[02:46] <ks1> dooglus, I got the update-rc.d from debian faq
[02:46] <BotBuilder> could be a problem
[02:46] <dooglus> ks1: so that runlevel 2 (the default runlevel) doesn't start gdm, and kills it if you're switching from a runlevel with gdm running
[02:46] <mustard5> natdigga_, ok I think you are on to step 3 now after that
[02:46] <ks1> I would liek to stop it the most proper way
[02:46] <dooglus> ks1: you would need to run that with 'sudo' - could that be where you went wrong?
[02:46] <natdigga_> ahhh okay
[02:46] <ks1> I ran it as su, i have it setup to where i can su
[02:46] <natdigga_> mustard, Setting up libqt3-mt (3.3.4-8ubuntu5) ...
[02:46] <natdigga_> Setting up fglrx-control (8.16.20-0ubuntu16.1) ...
[02:47] <seife> MAN I NEED WIRELESS INTERNET, IM GONNA KILL MYSELF
[02:47] <natdigga_> mustard done.
[02:47] <natdigga_> mustard, so I do the xorg.conf change now?
[02:47] <natdigga_> mustard, I think this is where I messed up.
[02:47] <robotgeek> seife: patience
[02:47] <boss_> lalal
[02:47] <ClayG> Is there an application to search file descriptions on my own box?
[02:47] <boss_> why can't we have firefox 1.5 in breezy?
[02:47] <dooglus> ClayG: do you mean file descriptors?  or what do you mean?
[02:47] <seife> Man im really going to hurt me
[02:47] <ClayG> yes dooglus file descriptions
[02:48] <ClayG> but not synaptic, nothing like that
[02:48] <dooglus> boss_: breezy was released long before firefox 1.5 (which still isn't released, to my knowledge)
[02:48] <natdigga_> mustard, man...my xorg.conf file is read-only what's that about?
[02:48] <mustard5> natdigga_, just reading the link it tells you to go to
[02:48] <merc> dooglus: ff1.5 went final a day or so ago
[02:48] <ClayG> lets say for instance dooglus decides to send me a package of of shareware games
[02:48] <mustard5> natdigga_, use sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:48] <ClayG> it is called dhs2sds.zip and for tonight and tomorrow i can remember what it actually is
[02:48] <boss_> seife: do you have a wireless ap?
[02:49] <mustard5> natdigga_, I take it you are on gnome?
[02:49] <natdigga_> mustard ahh sweet
[02:49] <ClayG> 6 months from now when it's in my archive drive and i look and see a file called dhs2sds.zip I wont know what is is
[02:49] <natdigga_> mustard, yes
[02:49] <ks1> dooglas this is what it says after i issue the command. System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist.
[02:49] <ClayG> even better would be the ability to actually search descriptions on my system
[02:49] <dooglus> merc: interesting that http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ is still pushing a release candidate
[02:49] <ClayG> these descriptions i intend on inputing my self
[02:49] <natdigga_> mustard this area?  Section "Device"
[02:49] <natdigga_> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage LT Pro (AGP)"
[02:49] <natdigga_> 	Driver		"ati"
[02:49] <natdigga_> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[02:49] <natdigga_> 	VideoRam	16000
[02:49] <merc> dooglus: getfirefox.com is pushing 1.5
[02:49] <ClayG> I just have to many downloads from usenet that have odd names and get deleted because im too lazy or "too smart" to check what they are
[02:50] <Jaymill> I have an mp3 problem
[02:50] <Jaymill> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:50] <seife> boss_, i have a linksys wrt54g router that sends the internet, and on the laptop a lanexpress ieee 802.11b intersil prism 2.5 wavelan chipset, ive tried all day to get this working out and nothing works
[02:50] <Jaymill> I typed that in
[02:50] <seife> I've installed many drivers, etc..
[02:50] <Jaymill> and i got an error that says it could not be installed
[02:50] <BotBuilder> Ok, is there any option for me installing linux on a computer with no functional cd-rom drives than moving one over from another comp?
[02:50] <dooglus> ClayG: I don't know of a system that allows you to enter descriptions for each file like that
[02:50] <TokenBad> ok in evolution i had someone send me pics...and they load in the email...i try to right click on them to save them..and no way to...anyone know how to save them?
[02:50] <BotBuilder> Can i install over the network?
[02:50] <BotBuilder> make a boot floppy?
[02:51] <Jaymill> I have an MP3 issue, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad didn't work
[02:51] <mustard5> natdigga_, hmmm the forum guide is different to the wiki guide...the forum guide has you manually editing the xorg.conf...the wiki guide gets you to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver and choose fglrx
[02:51] <TokenBad> didn't work how?
[02:51] <sockpuppe1> No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper?/?????? any reason as to why?
[02:51] <Jaymill> I got an error that said it was either a broken package or it was uninstalable
[02:51] <Toma-> firtefox 1.5 isnt too bad on ubuntu after all. :S
[02:51] <natdigga_> mustard, so do we need to back to the wiki guid?
[02:51] <dooglus> merc: what's the date in the useragent string for firefox 1.5 for linux?
[02:51] <mustard5> natdigga_, I don't know what the current state of your xorg.conf is either..so if you could pastebin it..it would be handy
[02:52] <MickMcMack> sockpuppe1, Because, as I suspected all along, THEY hate us.
[02:52] <TokenBad> Jaymill, didn't work how?
[02:52] <MickMcMack> :(
[02:52] <sockpuppe1> hah!
[02:52] <natdigga_> mustard, pastebin?
[02:52] <Oceansblue> thanks for the comment on fglrx-control
[02:52] <sockpuppe1> i knew it !
[02:52] <Jaymill> TokenBad: said it was uninstalable
[02:52] <ajmitch> sockpuppe1: for the obvious reason that it has to be packaged first, and then backported
[02:52] <mustard5> !tell natdigga_ about pastebin
[02:52] <BotBuilder> houseoftainted: Are you running full ubuntu on that comp? (UI and all?)
[02:52] <TokenBad> that it didn't find it
[02:52] <mustard5> natdigga_, check PM from ubotu
[02:52] <TokenBad> was unavaliable?
[02:52] <TokenBad> or what?
[02:52] <bob832> whats the command to restart a service?
[02:52] <seife> boss_, i think linux is not for me
[02:52] <Jaymill> TokenBad:  specifically libid3tag0 and libmad0
[02:52] <seife> :(
[02:52] <TokenBad> so it needs deps
[02:53] <houseoftainted> BotBuilder,  yes
[02:53] <Jaymill> TokenBad: ok?
[02:53] <sockpuppe1> ajmitch I was told by the firefox guys at irc.mozilla.org that it was because of a memory guzzling issue
[02:53] <BotBuilder> nivr
[02:53] <dooglus> bob832: /etc/init.d/<service> restart
[02:53] <TokenBad> so try apt-get install libid3tag0
[02:53] <houseoftainted> BotBuilder, its fully installed and am using xfce wm
[02:53] <BotBuilder> *nice
[02:53] <sockpuppe1> and its a pain in the ass to compile
[02:53] <dooglus> bob832: (with a 'sudo' in front)
[02:53] <Jaymill> ok
[02:53] <BotBuilder> cool
[02:53] <Jaymill> one sec
[02:53] <BotBuilder> Dunno if it will work for mine
[02:53] <natdigga_> mustard, you need the url?
[02:53] <mustard5> natdigga, I do
[02:53] <BotBuilder> Obscure card with no ogl drivers on windows
[02:53] <natdigga_> mustard, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444421
[02:53] <bob832> dooglus:  ah ok, thanks. . . . i wa trying service <name> restart but with no go
[02:54] <mustard5> natdigga_, thanks
[02:54] <bob832> guess its the fedora coming out of me  :-)
[02:54] <natdigga_> mustard, no man thank you :)
[02:54] <dooglus> bob832: probably better is "sudo invoke-rc.d <service> restart"
[02:54] <dooglus> bob832: but they both do the same thing
[02:54] <Jaymill> TokenBad: says those two things have no installation canadite
[02:54] <TokenBad> Jaymill, may also want to install libid3tag0-dev
[02:54] <Khaaaaan> Is there anyway to make rythmbox minimize to the sys tray??
[02:54] <TokenBad> Jaymill, do this
[02:55] <SEJeff> Khaaaaan: rhythmbox-applet I think
[02:55] <TokenBad> apt-cache search libid3tag0
[02:55] <dooglus> TokenBad: it's in main...
[02:55] <Khaaaaan> nice
[02:55] <Agrajag> Khaaaaan: right-click the icon in the tray and click on "show window"
[02:55] <Khaaaaan> Sysnaptic I assume?
[02:55] <Khaaaaan> OMG
[02:55] <Khaaaaan> Thank you, duh me
[02:55] <Jaymill> TokenBad: it didn't do anything
[02:55] <mustard5> natdigga_, I'm thinking the wiki guide will work better...as the other one is showing me an X-Free6 config..and we are using xorg.conf
[02:55] <Jaymill> TokenBad: no error, but it just went to the next line
[02:56] <natdigga_> mustard, okay
[02:56] <TokenBad> and you updated your repositories?
[02:56] <Jaymill> TokenBad: ?
[02:56] <dooglus> Jaymill: "sudo apt-get update" <-- what does that tell you?
[02:56] <natdigga_> mustard, there
[02:56] <Jaymill> <--linux newbie
[02:56] <Oceansblue> Hi newbie
[02:56] <TokenBad> I don't think he updated repositories
[02:56] <mustard5> natdigga, let me read again....
[02:56] <natdigga_> mustard, so do I start at 1?
[02:56] <natdigga_> ok
[02:57] <natdigga_> actually I think I have to do the echo on modules
[02:57] <mustard5> natdigga_, I think we would be up to step 3 in the hoary breezy part at the top
[02:57] <Jaymill> says its done
[02:57] <natdigga_> oh okay so we skip step 2?
[02:58] <Jaymill> only downloaded 1 byte
[02:58] <mustard5> natdigga_, oh no..hehe yeah do step 2
[02:58] <dooglus> TokenBad: I think ubuntu tried to update his repositories while he was offline.  A bug in apt-get causes the cached repository lists to be deleted when that happens.
[02:58] <Jaymill> dooglus: so what can I do now to get my mp3's to play?
[02:58] <natdigga_> mustard, 2 done going to three
[02:59] <Khaaaaan> Where can I grab Teamspeak from??
[02:59] <mustard5> natdigga,
[02:59] <mustard5> natdigga_, k
[02:59] <houseoftainted> Khaaaaan,  www.google.com
[02:59] <SEJeff> Jaymill: Enable the universe and multiverse repositories in synaptic. Then search for and install the package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse that has mp3, divx, etc
[02:59] <Jaymill> Khaaaaan: http://www.goteamspeak.com/news.php
[02:59] <logical_mark> Hey what is the command to delete a folder in terminal?
[02:59] <TokenBad> dooglus, ahhhhh
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: rm will do it.
[02:59] <Jaymill> SEJeff: your gonna have to help me with that, I'm a newb
[03:00] <Khaaaaan> Does it work okay in Ubuntu??
[03:00] <natdigga_> mustard, so I just sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:00] <mustard5> natdigga_, your not on 64 bit machine?
[03:00] <natdigga_> mustard, no
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> Just be careful about how you use it: `rm -r directory' will remove a directory recursively.
[03:00] <SEJeff> Jaymill: I'm leaving right now, ask someone else, it's really easy. Sorry
[03:00] <TokenBad> Jaymill, did you edit your sources.list?
[03:00] <Jaymill> TokenBad: nope
[03:00] <SEJeff> Jaymill: Use synaptic, dont edit sources.list
[03:00] <TokenBad> ok
[03:00] <houseoftainted> SEJeff, hey i need help installing a program called snes9x
[03:00] <Jaymill> SEJeff: ok
[03:00] <TokenBad> well can do it that way to
[03:00] <mustard5> natdigga_, ummm..well it gives you three options...any of them would do it
[03:00] <TokenBad> lets open synaptic Jaymill
[03:00] <Jaymill> TokenBad: ok
[03:01] <natdigga_> ok here goes nothing...
[03:01] <natdigga_> I have to reboot
[03:01] <mustard5> natdigga_, k
[03:01] <natdigga_> I just do the Ctrl+alt+backspace? or shutdown?
[03:01] <Jaymill> TokenBad: how?
[03:01] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I got this error "cannot remove `/var/www': Is a directory
[03:01] <logical_mark> "
[03:01] <mustard5> natdigga_, before you go
[03:01] <TokenBad> system, administration, synaptic
[03:01] <natdigga_> mustard, yeah?
[03:01] <Jaymill> TokenBad: ok
[03:01] <natdigga_> mustard, pray?
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: before you do anything, I don't know _why_ you will want to remove /var/www .. if you're sure: rm -r /var/www
[03:01] <natdigga_> ;)
[03:02] <TokenBad> it will ask for pass
[03:02] <Jaymill> done
[03:02] <mustard5> natdigga_, ummm..you might want to right down the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[03:02] <TokenBad> ok
[03:02] <TokenBad> now
[03:02] <TokenBad> settings, repositories
[03:02] <mustard5> natdigga, if you end up in terminal with no X display that can get you out by allowing you to change back to VESA drivers or something
[03:02] <Jaymill> ok
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: just be very careful when removing whole directories like this. if you miss and only type `rm -r /', you'll remove _EVERYTHING_! So be careful.
[03:02] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Here is the problem. I installed apache but when I uninstalled it, to do another fresh install, it left all the folders, with the settings I am trying to get rid of. Where is apache installed to by the way so I can delete it?
[03:03] <TokenBad> now
[03:03] <mustard5> *write down I meant to say above not right down :)
[03:03] <TokenBad> whats checked there
[03:03] <aaronf0> how to mount a ntfs drive rw?
[03:03] <anavim> aaronf0: you shouldn't write to ntfs
[03:03] <Fujitsu> aaronf0: Not advisable.
[03:03] <Jaymill> I see cd Ubuntu 5.1, Ubuntu 5.1
[03:03] <TokenBad> is the 4th and 5th one checked?
[03:03] <aaronf0> bah
[03:03] <Jaymill> and thats it
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: Apache is all over the place! Those folders will contain just the websites and such. A smarter idea will be to remove everything *in* /var/www: rm -r /var/www/*
[03:03] <mustard5> natdigga_, you in terminal now?
[03:03] <aaronf0> when will it get supported
[03:03] <TokenBad> ok check the 4th and 5th ones
[03:03] <Jaymill> no check marks nothin
[03:03] <TokenBad> and also check
[03:03] <natdigga_> mustard, I was
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: when you make your new install, it'll replace anything that needs replacing.
[03:04] <Jaymill> no, thats all thats there
[03:04] <mustard5> natdigga_, ah ok
[03:04] <natdigga_> mustard I was about to reboot
[03:04] <Fujitsu> aaronf0: When it is ready. It will be a while yet.
[03:04] <TokenBad> the last 2
[03:04] <mustard5> natdigga, k go for it....good luck :)
[03:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Is there a backup file for xorg.conf?
[03:04] <sts_joseph> hi
[03:04] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, you can make one
[03:04] <aaronf0> Fujitsu: gentoos had it for a bit yet, how experimetnal is it really?
[03:04] <sts_joseph> hi
[03:04] <Jaymill> TokenBad: there are only two things there, and on the right I see add, and on the bottom is authentication and settings
[03:04] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: How can I keep it from asking me y/n? for every file?
[03:04] <sts_joseph> hi
[03:04] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, have you edited it already?
[03:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5: Well, its kinda already messed up :-P
[03:04] <sts_joseph> ho
[03:04] <Jaymill> aha, I see more now
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5: yeah.. it says somthing about some GLX thingey failing to load
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Nice. Cedega compiled.
[03:05] <TokenBad> ok
[03:05] <definity> dose any one know how to change this from GNOME to KDE?
[03:05] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, I would look in the comments at the top of the xorg.conf file and run the command it shows in there
[03:05] <TokenBad> pick add
[03:05] <definity> plz
[03:05] <Jaymill> in settings I had to click show disabled software
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: that must be the way your shell is set up. Type `unalias rm', then try again. If that still doesn't do it: rm -rf /var/www/*
[03:05] <TokenBad> ok
[03:05] <TokenBad> you got it?
[03:05] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, that should autodetect everything again
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: please be even more careful when using rm -rf, as it will just `F'orce its way through -everything-.
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Alrite
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Thanks
[03:05] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I had to put sudo in front of it
[03:05] <Jaymill> I see two that say ubuntu 5.1 updates
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: oh, you weren't sudo'd! Didn't realise.
[03:05] <Jaymill> binary and source
[03:05] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I head your warninigs
[03:05] <Jaymill> get those two?
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> Good ^^
[03:06] <TokenBad> and thats it?
[03:06] <TokenBad> just those 2?
[03:06] <definity> is it possible GNOME to KDE?!?!?!?
[03:06] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Yeah sometimes its the simpleist thing that the other guy is so stupid LOL
[03:06] <Jaymill> those are the 4th and 5th ones
[03:06] <Jaymill> I see alot more
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> definity: Kubuntu does this.
[03:06] <TokenBad> Jaymill, msg me
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: you're doing fine!
[03:06] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5: The ATI driver wiped out those comments.
[03:06] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, k let me look it up...
[03:06] <Jaymill> TokenBad: I need to register
[03:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Alrite
[03:07] <TokenBad> bah
[03:07] <TokenBad> ok
[03:07] <Khaaaaan> Oh man, So Teamspeak2 doesnt work with ubuntu?? uh oh.....
[03:07] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:07] <TokenBad> lets see
[03:07] <TokenBad> you running breezy?
[03:07] <vbgunz> anybody know why I cannot update some extensions to Thunderbird?
[03:07] <thundr> definity, if you have ubuntu, download the package kubuntu if you want to use kde and ubuntu
[03:07] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I have a broken package that SPM won't fix.The error it gives me when I mark it for complete removal and hit Apply, it errors saying "E: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127"
[03:07] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  any ideas? it isnt showing insynaptic, i downloaded off of snes9x.com
[03:07] <BotBuilder> This is the fourth time i've tried installing a linux distro and teh fourth time its failed in some way due to hardware
[03:07] <YukiIkyuta> BotBuilder: what's up?
[03:08] <definity> ok thx :)
[03:08] <mustard5> houseoftainted, yeah I think you don't have all your repositories enabled...thats my theory anway :)
[03:08] <vbgunz> join #mozilla
[03:08] <Fujitsu> BotBuilder, what is up?
[03:08] <Jaymill> TokenBad: check your PM
[03:08] <definity> and dose anyone know why the hell ubuntu wont let me install a login theam??
[03:08] <mustard5> houseoftainted, if we can get it through synaptice you can save yourself the grief of compiling
[03:08] <BotBuilder> Well, I've tried doing it on my two modern computers
[03:08] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  how do i enable them under the repositories tab :)
[03:08] <BotBuilder> hasnt worked
[03:08] <Delvien> Anyone here use Kthinkbat
[03:08] <BotBuilder> but that's a different story
[03:08] <Fujitsu> What is wrong, BotBuilder?
[03:08] <mustard5> !tell houseoftainted about repos
[03:08] <BotBuilder> Tryign to install ubuntu server on an old junker
[03:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5L Thanks
[03:09] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, worked ok?
[03:09] <BotBuilder> And it can't boot to the install cd
[03:09] <thundr> BotBuilder, how old is this junker?
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> root@ubuntu:/usr/sbin # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200512012108
[03:09] <BotBuilder> 7-10 years
[03:09] <Fujitsu> Ahh.
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Is that what I wanted to see?
[03:09] <Fujitsu> OK.
[03:09] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, k
[03:09] <BotBuilder> p1 200mhz, 64mb ram, 4gb hard drive
[03:09] <Fujitsu> We need to create a floppy boot, easy.
[03:09] <BotBuilder> oh ok
[03:09] <BotBuilder> How would I do that then ;p ?
[03:09] <YukiIkyuta> (it has a floppy drive, right?)
[03:09] <BotBuilder> yes
[03:09] <thundr> BotBuilder, can it boot off of the cd?
[03:09] <Fujitsu> Phew
[03:09] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, your in root already too, so sudo is not really required
[03:10] <BotBuilder> thundr - some odd error happens
[03:10] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I have a broken package that SPM won't fix.The error it gives me when I mark it for complete removal and hit Apply, it errors saying "E: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127". Do you know what it is?
[03:10] <BotBuilder> says it can't find the disk
[03:10] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, normally it would be being done from a user login prompt
[03:10] <BotBuilder> ISOLINUX complains about missing a 'spec' and its going to just 'wing it'
[03:10] <mustard5> houseoftainted, did you get the link from ubotu?
[03:10] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: that's quite peculiar, but that's not the actual error itself - there should be more messages above. Are there any?
[03:10] <vbgunz> Anyone know why on Ubuntu 5.10 I cannot update my extensions? I download them, Thunderbird 1.07 goes through installing them, all is fine and I am told to restart Thunderbird 1.07 *but* when I do, they're not updated and searching for more updates reveal they all need to be updated again... it loops endlessly... Anyone know why? I appreciate any help!
[03:10] <BotBuilder> Fujitsu: How do I make a floppy boot then?
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5: Did it work?
[03:11] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: No there are not. Keep in mind though I am using the SPM, not terminal...
[03:11] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, yeah..you should have a new xorg.conf now
[03:11] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, check it out to confirm
[03:11] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[03:11] <ale3hs> how I find the path for the JDK ??
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ok
[03:11] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: perhaps you could try removing via the command line to see what it says there?
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeargh. I compile cedega.. I just can't find it *smacks head
[03:12] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  yes i did :)
[03:12] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: What is the command to uninstall a package?
[03:12] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I can show you how to manually edit it if it doesnt work via synaptic
[03:12] <Fujitsu> BotBuilder, wait a second...
[03:12] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: apt-get remove PACKAGE
[03:12] <mustard5> houseoftainted, what version of ubuntu you on?
[03:12] <YukiIkyuta> eg. apt-get remove phpmyadmin
[03:13] <thundr> as su, of course.
[03:13] <djk_> ale3hs: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.X-sun
[03:13] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Errors are: /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[03:13] <logical_mark> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):
[03:13] <logical_mark>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[03:13] <logical_mark> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:13] <logical_mark>  phpmyadmin
[03:13] <logical_mark> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:13] <mustard5> logical_mark, paste in pastebin plz :)
[03:14] <Fujitsu> BotBuilder: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[03:14] <Fujitsu> You can use that to make a floppy to boot from the CD.
[03:14] <logical_mark> mustard5: So sorry. What is pastebin? how do I use it? thanks
[03:14] <djk_> ale3hs: X being 4 or 5 or whatever JDK you have installed.
[03:14] <mustard5> !tell logical_mark about pastebin
[03:14] <mustard5> logical_mark, check PM from ubotu
[03:14] <BotBuilder> fujitsu - ok
[03:14] <ale3hs> djk_,  not there, i have install eclipse so i guess eclipse install JDK somewehere else..
[03:14] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: okay, looks like you're going to have to force remove it! Let me think ..
[03:15] <BotBuilder> I've been able to boot from the cd though
[03:15] <logical_mark> mustard5: got it thanks
[03:15] <YukiIkyuta> !tell YukiIkyuta about pastebin
[03:15] <aaronf0> nvidia and ubuntu in one word?
[03:15] <BotBuilder> its just that immediatly after it can't find the disk drive
[03:15] <BotBuilder> I'll be back
[03:15] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: you can try force removing the package with dpkg, though that's a little bit more complex.
[03:15] <djk_> ale3hs: type "locate javac" ...without the ".
[03:16] <ale3hs> djk_,  I have no javac
[03:16] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: you need to open up /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm , find the line "# Package maintainer's commands follow", then add this:
[03:16] <djk_> ale3hs: then you have no JDK.
[03:16] <YukiIkyuta> . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[03:17] <YukiIkyuta> (without the .)
[03:17] <ale3hs> djk_,  of course I got, i compile programs in Eclipse
[03:17] <ale3hs> djk_,  except if it uses a GNU java
[03:17] <YukiIkyuta> Wait, no, the . is necessary.
[03:17] <YukiIkyuta> (ahem)
[03:18] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Ok done
[03:18] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark:  now apt-get remove phpmyadmin again!
[03:18] <aaronf0> err, does anyone in here use nvidia cards with 3d accel?
[03:18] <djk_> ale3hs: probably, since javac is the sun java compiler..
[03:18] <Fujitsu> aaronf0: You need the drivers from restricted...
[03:19] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: same error...
[03:19] <mustard5> aaronf0, I assume its using hardware acceleration..is that the same?
[03:19] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: you're sure the change saved successfully?
[03:19] <ale3hs> djk_,  u cannot download JDK from synaptic, can u?
[03:19] <cafuego> aaronf0: Yep. nvidia-glx for geforce4 or newer, nvidia-glx-legacy for older.
[03:19] <cafuego> ale3hs: yes, version 1.4 is in there.
[03:19] <aaronf0> cafuego: and those are in restricted?
[03:19] <mbmccormick> for users in the United States, how long did it take to get your free ubuntu cds delivered?
[03:19] <djk_> ale3hs: depends on your repos
[03:20] <mustard5> aaronf0, yeah
[03:20] <Oceansblue> 4 - 5 weeks
[03:20] <aaronf0> why is 3 so hard...
[03:20] <mbmccormick> thanks oceansblue
[03:20] <Oceansblue> I can download the Ubuntu disk in 1 minute at the university
[03:20] <Oceansblue> they have a local mirror
[03:20] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Yes, I inserted on the line right below "# Package maintainers commands:" the line "./usr/share/debconf/confmodule"
[03:21] <djk_> ale3hs: why do you need the jdk if eclipse already uses a compiler?
[03:21] <ale3hs> cafuego, synaptic doesnt find it
[03:21] <ale3hs> djk_,  just to be sure for compatability
[03:21] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: nevermind I fixed it
[03:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Nice.. Guild Wars under Linux
[03:21] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: well done!
[03:21] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I needed a space after the '.' and it worked then
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: yes, yes. The "." tells the program to execute the file after it like it's a script.
[03:22] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Thanks for the help. Learned something
[03:22] <ale3hs> djk_ plus I need to use java microedtion at some point
[03:22] <Techie_dude> how do i set default programs?
[03:22] <Khaaaaan> How can I restart the gnome?
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: no problems. ^^ This a known bug in phpMyAdmin, and isn't typical at all.
[03:22] <mbmccormick> oceansblue- thats fast, here it takes me about half hour-hour
[03:22] <djk_> ale3hs: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu breezy java   --add that line to your sources.list. apt-get update then you'll be able to get sun1.5 standart edition
[03:22] <Fujitsu> Khaaaaaan: log out and in.
[03:22] <Delvien> Biscuitian_Warhe how well does it run
[03:22] <mustard5> Techie_dude, right click on the file you want to open and choose properties
[03:23] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Well thanks all the same. Talk to you later
[03:23] <mustard5> Techie_dude, there should be an 'Open-with' tab
[03:23] <Techie_dude> does anyone know how i set my default music player
[03:23] <mbmccormick> close
[03:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Delvien: No idea, i kinda screwed up the cvscompile (did it as root, so its d/ling some stuff to Linux, and well, we'll see from there
[03:23] <mustard5> Techie_dude, well on ubuntu totem is the default I think..and its not straightforward changing that
[03:23] <ale3hs> djk_,  remind me where is sources_list file?
[03:24] <djk_> ale3hs: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:24] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: see ya.
[03:24] <navarone> its funny. Evolution has big red x in circle that i try everytime to delete...then I realize that the delete it actually the thing that looks like aempty Guinness mug
[03:24] <Delvien> Biscuitian_Warhe nice
[03:24] <Oceansblue> Running Firefox 1.5 here
[03:24] <Techie_dude> no cd juicer is the default
[03:24] <mustard5> Techie_dude, what one do you want to add?
[03:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> If I update to Breezy, via Synaptic, will ti wipe out everything
[03:24] <Techie_dude> i want it to play my cds with xxms
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Biscuitian_Warhe: No.
[03:25] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  this is confusing :(
[03:25] <mustard5> houseoftainted, ok lets do it manually then ;)
[03:25] <net_benjo> hello, my wireless keeps cutting out sporatically and then reconnecting within seconds...does this problem sound familiar to anyone???
[03:25] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok :D
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Fujitsu: Will my compiled software still work?
[03:25] <mustard5> houseoftainted, you on breezy?
[03:25] <glyph> Hello, folks
[03:25] <navarone> Biscuitian...very odd name if you don't mind me saying...lol
[03:25] <glyph> My machine is crashing once per day.
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Fujitsu: I couldn't get some of the repos i needed for Cedega.
[03:25] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  hoary hedgehog
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> navarone: Lol, I know.
[03:26] <mustard5> houseoftainted, k
[03:26] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Would you know why even though I installed apache2, and then php4, and the restarted apahce2, it still wont show a .php file in the browser and instead I get the option to download the file?
[03:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> heheh another cedega problem? just solved mine
[03:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> navarone: My nickname is Biscuit.. so i just kinda flow with that
[03:26] <glyph> Windows seems to be rock solid, Breezy on my laptop is rock solid, and I have no debugging information upon which to base a diagnosis of the problem
[03:26] <mustard5> houseoftainted, just loading a hoary sources.list
[03:26] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: I had that issue a while ago.
[03:26] <Techie_dude> It dosen't have a tab for that
[03:26] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: have you installed the PHP module?..
[03:26] <glyph> but nevertheless Breezy on my desktop is exploding to bits every 16 hours or so, "reliably"
[03:26] <navarone> biscuit...is the warhead actually short for warhead? I imagine inter conternental Shortbread missles
[03:27] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok :)
[03:27] <pussfeller> logical_mark: did you add index.php to the directory index thing
[03:27] <mustard5> houseoftainted, ok open this in a browser http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:27] <djk_> navarone: yes, the warhead is actually short for warhead....
[03:27] <navarone> lol
[03:27] <thundr> glyph, that's strange.
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Biscuitian_Warhe: I don't know anything about Cedega, but what is the problem?
[03:27] <glyph> I suspect that it is a kernel problem, most likely a SATA or USB problem based on when the crashes have occurred.  I would like to change something to see if I can reduce the frequently of the crashes
[03:27] <net_benjo> has anybody hear of a problem where wireless signal keeps cutting in and out...sporadically....I've checked the forums and could not find anyting similar..
[03:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> navarone: Yeah, it is, this thing lops it off though
[03:27] <glyph> thundr: Yes, very much so.
[03:27] <mustard5> houseoftainted, not open your current sources.list with this command   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <ale3hs> apt-get update in the console is the same work as to refresh icon in synaptic?
[03:27] <mustard5> *now...not 'not' sorry
[03:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Fujitsu: I want to enable DMA, but this bloody thing won't do it
[03:27] <Fujitsu> ale3hs: Yes
[03:27] <djk_> ale3hs: yes
[03:28] <glyph> thundr: Previously when I've had unexplained crashes in a Linux distro, I've been able to poke around in /var/log and find SOME indication of what happened immediately before the crash...
[03:28] <ale3hs> thanks
[03:28] <glyph> thundr: but these are hard, fast crashes, that are instantaneous
[03:28] <glyph> thundr: no opportunity for the kernel to say "oh crap!" before it dies
[03:28] <logical_mark> Fijitsu, YukiIkyuta, and pussfeller: I am following this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver Does that help explain it?
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> GW update almost ready.. Mwahaha
[03:28] <navarone> You know pretty soon computers are gonna be voice activated and all us old folks are gonna be complaining no-one uses a gui any more
[03:28] <mustard5> houseoftainted, copy and paste the sources.list at that link in your browser and completely replace your old sources.list in the text editor you just opened
[03:28] <glyph> thundr: Considering that my machine is already an unstable wreck, I am considering "upgrading" to dapper :)
[03:28] <net_benjo> are there any free chat admins that can help me with my wireless question?
[03:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Windows had some unexplained crashes for me.. but I couldn't poke in a log.
[03:29] <glyph> Biscuitian_Warhe: Heh heh
[03:29] <glyph> Biscuitian_Warhe: I have certainly had machines where Windows has had similar issues
[03:29] <YukiIkyuta> navarone: I've already voice automated my media player. xD
[03:29] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I suppose I should wait for you to confirm you have reached that point :)
[03:29] <glyph> Biscuitian_Warhe: I actually spent about 20 hours trying to knock Windows over, burning in the machine
[03:29] <navarone> Yuki...you r ahead of the curve
[03:29] <glyph> Biscuitian_Warhe: I wanted to believe it was a hardware problem and I would have to buy a new computer, more than I wanted to believe it was an Ubuntu problem.  but there you have it :)
[03:30] <Fujitsu> net_benjo: I am sure other people in the channel can help you. Just ask the question, and somebody will probably know.
[03:30] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Did you see that last thing I said?
[03:30] <navarone> could the dma problem be solved with bios upgrade?
[03:30] <ale3hs> djk_,  still can find java on synaptic
[03:30] <afabian> In my experience, there's always a reason Windows is unstable, even Windows 95.  Bad drivers, flaky hardware, etc.
[03:30] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  from the browser to the text editor?
[03:30] <thundr> glyph, yeah.  I know what you're describing, but I doubt I'll be able to help.  Dapper might be a fun experiment - you can watch your computer melt before you format.  :)
[03:30] <YukiIkyuta> net_benjo: what's the problem?
[03:30] <ale3hs> djk_,  still cannot find java on synaptic
[03:30] <djk_> ale3hs: search for j2sdk
[03:30] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: yes, I saw. I'm reading the guide for thoroughness now.
[03:30] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok its pasted completely
[03:30] <mustard5> houseoftainted, ok..so it copied over the old content?
[03:30] <ale3hs> djk_,  ur a savior
[03:30] <glyph> thundr: Yeah... I see the topic, and I recognize the sort of grief unprepared dapper users might have caused you all :) but I would like some advice on the recommended upgrade path if anyone here has had good/bad experiences with dapper so far
[03:30] <morphix> does anyone know a guide on how to dual boot win xp and ubuntu?
[03:30] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  yep
[03:30] <djk_> ale3hs: no problem
[03:31] <mustard5> houseoftainted, k save ..and one more steop
[03:31] <Fujitsu> morphix: Yes.
[03:31] <net_benjo> YukiIkyuta:  thank you.....ok..my wireless signal keeps cuttin in and out...it disconnects..then reconnects automatically....it happens often while i"m browsing or downloading..
[03:31] <Oceansblue> I can dual boot
[03:31] <glyph> thundr: I suspect that it is a known kernel bug that has been fixed in versions after the one packaged in breezy.  I mean, heck, practically the whole SCSI system has been replaced since then :-P
[03:31] <mustard5> houseoftainted, do a sudo apt-get update
[03:31] <Fujitsu> morphix: Have you got both on there?
[03:31] <ale3hs> djk_,  u program in java?
[03:31] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok
[03:31] <morphix> Fujitsu, no not yet.. i just win xp installed atm.
[03:31] <djk_> ale3hs: had to, not anymore.
[03:31] <YukiIkyuta> net_benjo: try typing `iwconfig' - it will tell you in one of the last lines how good the signal strength is.
[03:31] <Fujitsu> morphix: Ubuntu will handle it when you install.
[03:31] <mustard5> houseoftainted, k..now we can install from command line too
[03:31] <TokenBad> ok in evolution i had someone send me pics...and they load in the email...i try to right click on them to save them..and no way to...anyone know how to save them?
[03:31] <Fujitsu> It will automatically detect it and add it as a boot option.
[03:31] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: I'm trying to find you another package to install ..
[03:31] <ale3hs> djk_,  I just want to ask u if 1.5 is totaly compatble with 1.4??
[03:31] <navarone> morphix> this url is for a laptop install but you may get the jist http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[03:32] <morphix> how would i go about reversing it if i wanted to?
[03:32] <mustard5> houseoftainted, sudo apt-get install snes9x-x
[03:32] <morphix> just delete ubuntu and rewrite the mbr?
[03:32] <Fujitsu> morphix: Yes.
[03:32] <morphix> ok
[03:32] <morphix> thanks.
[03:32] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Thats great thanks!
[03:32] <thundr> glyph, I'm probably not the right person to ask for advice.   People wiser than I will help you when they're done with the problems they're working on.  You might want to try #ubuntu after you register with nickserv - it might be a little faster to get help there.
[03:32] <djk_> ale3hs: i'm not sure, there have been changes.
[03:32] <Delvien> where are applets for KDE stored?
[03:32] <Fujitsu> You shouldn't need to remove Ubuntu, though, morphix!
[03:32] <houseoftainted> its working :)
[03:32] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  its installing :D
[03:32] <glyph> thundr: erm
[03:32] <mustard5> houseoftainted, k
[03:33] <ale3hs> djk_,  ok I ll go with 1.4 to be sure
[03:33] <glyph> thundr: aren't I *in* #ubuntu?
[03:33] <net_benjo> YukiIkyuta:  ok..i get signal level 72/100..i don't think that's the problem....I know that In my room I have a really very good signal strenght...
[03:33] <glyph> thundr: I am registered, and also, the tab for this channel says "#ubuntu", not "##ubuntu" or anything wacky like that
[03:33] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I don't know how you run it...it might be in the menus after installing
[03:33] <YukiIkyuta> net_benjo: do you use encryption or some form of authentication?
[03:33] <thundr> glyph, oh, yeah.
[03:33] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok, and one question how do i do an apt-search?
[03:33] <mustard5> houseoftainted, apt-cache search packagename
[03:34] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: So you know, I am looking at having Apache2, PHP, mySQL running.
[03:34] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  awesome thank you :)
[03:34] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I think....(testing)
[03:34] <net_benjo> YukiIkyuta:  yes..i use WEP and I have an encrypted hex key
[03:34] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: Very good. LAMP is good.
[03:34] <thundr> glyph, This is a new install for me, so I just thought I'd be thrown into #ubuntu-unregged since I didn't put in a password or anything in xchat.
[03:34] <mustard5> houseoftainted, yep..that was it
[03:34] <YukiIkyuta> net_benjo: I see. Have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide ?
[03:35] <mustard5> houseoftainted, synaptic is just apt-get with a nice gui
[03:35] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: this should help! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PHP5Installation
[03:35] <net_benjo> Yuki...:   no... I have not..I will now though...thank you..
[03:35] <mustard5> houseoftainted, so you can't be using one while using the other..if you know what I mean
[03:35] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: the guide you were following was for PHP 4. This is PHP 5, which is much better, so it should do you well.
[03:35] <YukiIkyuta> net_benjo: good luck.
[03:35] <definity> any one know where i could get a good matrix theam for ubuntu from?
[03:35] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ill stick with manual installation :)
[03:35] <Fujitsu> Yes, PHP is better.
[03:35] <mustard5> houseoftainted, hehe ok
[03:36] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I assume it will work with older php scripts?
[03:36] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[03:36] <Fujitsu> PHP5, that should have been...
[03:36] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: naturally.
[03:36] <net_benjo> Yuki...:  thanks for your help...ubuntu rocks!!!
[03:36] <YukiIkyuta> net_benjo: you bet it does! Good luck.
[03:36] <morphix> does anyone know where i can download the linux rescue cd from pipe servers (in australia)?
[03:37] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  great how do i run it now lol
[03:37] <mustard5> houseoftainted, hehehe good question....try alt + f2 and type in part of the name
[03:37] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: This seems a little over my head. I don't know what it means when it is saying the packages I need, or how to get them, and the what do I do to "compile" them?
[03:37] <fdelacruz> sr Im using ubuntu for my samba accessing by win98, I try to login on my win98 I got this error The computer name is invalid, this is my first time encounter this error
[03:37] <mustard5> houseoftainted, it might be in the menus..some packages put in menu entries..some don't
[03:37] <djk_> morphix: that guide is idiotic, the linux rescue cd isn't needed for a dual-OS-system.
[03:38] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: Do I just do apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork, etc.
[03:38] <mustard5> houseoftainted, actually alt + f2 is a breezy command
[03:38] <mustard5> houseoftainted, on hoary I think its in your system menu
[03:38] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: But I still don't understand "post-compilation"
[03:38] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: yes, that should do.
[03:38] <mustard5> houseoftainted, sorry application>>system tools
[03:39] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: post compilation - the guide intends for you to compile them (ie. to make the packages) yourself, but you can probably just apt-get install them.
[03:39] <Killer056> Tin ma grosse chui la :p
[03:39] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: then follow the instructions it gives.
[03:39] <definity> what better GTK or KDE?
[03:39] <mustard5> !fr
[03:39] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:39] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: if you think this is a bit much, you can still try PHP 4 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:39] <mebaran151> hey
[03:39] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: that guide there is a bit more complete, so you might prefer it.
[03:39] <mebaran151> can anyone help me with an alsa problem
[03:39] <mebaran151> for some reason
[03:39] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: sure.
[03:40] <mebaran151> dmix refuses to work
[03:40] <mebaran151> I got everything else pretty well covered
[03:40] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  nothin about searching... hmm
[03:40] <mebaran151> and I got my asound.conf in order I believe
[03:40] <mebaran151> but things don't mix
[03:40] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: do you know what version of ALSA you're running?
[03:40] <mebaran151> 1.10
[03:40] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  iim there :) i dont know what half these programs are meant for
[03:40] <mebaran151> I upgraded trying to fix it
[03:40] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I'm pretty sure there is a run application choice in hoary in the applications menu somewhere
[03:40] <mebaran151> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc1 (Mon Sep 12 08:13:09 2005 UTC).
[03:40] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: it should be enabled by default, that means ..
[03:41] <mebaran151> yeah
[03:41] <logical_mark> YukiIKyuta: I should go ahead and try this. I should be able to handle it I think
[03:41] <mebaran151> it doesn't work by default
[03:41] <mebaran151> in fact without an asound.conf it makes everything high pitched
[03:41] <Amaranth> still snowing
[03:41] <Amaranth> :/
[03:41] <mustard5> houseoftainted, another trick from command line is to type the first few letters in and hit TAB twice
[03:41] <mebaran151> it's a Via Envy 24 btw
[03:41] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: ! What are you trying to achieve using dmix?
[03:41] <mebaran151> well
[03:42] <mebaran151> I want to be able to hear gaim sounds (from aplay) and rhythmbox music
[03:42] <mustard5> houseoftainted, that will give you an idea of what its called..and then you could try loading up the manual with man <command name>
[03:42] <mebaran151> and esd is just filled with buggers
[03:42] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: do you reckon? Typically I find ESD is alright..
[03:43] <mebaran151> esd buzzes profusely on my setup
[03:43] <mebaran151> never figured out why
[03:43] <navarone> houseoftainted,  what are you trying to find?
[03:43] <Toma-> someone should make an uber simple multiplexed or whatever sound server :(
[03:44] <mustard5> navarone, he wants run sne9x-x
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> Toma-: you bet.
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: this may help; mebaran151:
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> oops!
[03:44] <mustard5> navarone, he just installed with apt-get
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA
[03:44] <navarone> mustard game emulatorsa re the bane of my existence...lol
[03:44] <agroker> I have a scientific program to install (CHARMM), they do not specify precisely where to put binaries and libraries, what would be an appropriate position at the Ubuntu filesystem?
[03:44] <mustard5> navarone, and he is on hoary
[03:44] <mustard5> navarone, hehe
[03:44] <Toma-> i hate saying it, but the windows sound system is so nice
[03:44] <eclecticpc> can someone send me a text file or something i need to test my dcc
[03:44] <Fujitsu> Toma-: In some ways, yes. It often Just Works(tm).
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> Toma-: unfortunately, due to the fact that Windows is unified in that respect, it's true.
[03:44] <foo> What is some of the main differences between ubuntu and debian? Just curious...
[03:44] <navarone> I gave up on trying to load those @$!& roms...lol
[03:45] <Toma-> i think dmix is setup standard in breezy
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> agroker: binaries would go in /usr/local/bin , libraries in /usr/local/lib
[03:45] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  i type snes9x from the command prompt and it opens up some config options is all
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> Toma-: I was under that impression also.
[03:45] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, tnx
[03:45] <mustard5> houseoftainted, try man snes9x for a manual
[03:46] <Toma-> houseoftainted: znes is the better. it comes with a gui
[03:46] <mebaran151> Toma-, I think Linux sound would be much much better
[03:46] <Toma-> zsnes
[03:46] <mebaran151> if we only had manufacture support
[03:46] <mebaran151> more
[03:46] <mustard5> houseoftainted, hang ten..I'll download and try to find it myself too
[03:46] <kjdis> Anyone got a link to a directfb tutorial, setup help, etc.?
[03:46] <Toma-> its not the drivers, its the way the software should be able to simple mix everything down to one steam
[03:46] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok
[03:47] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  on windows it has a graphical interface, would this one too?
[03:47] <ardchoille> Are there any disadvantages or problems with installing apps from universe?
[03:47] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I don't know
[03:47] <Toma-> but u get people crying "It uses so much CPU waa waa" but in essence, itll take about 2% from a modern cpu
[03:47] <agroker> eclecticpc, DCC SEND install.com to eclecticpc failed. Connection reset by peer
[03:47] <YukiIkyuta> kjdis: http://directfb.org/docs/DirectFB_Tutorials/
[03:47] <kjdis> Yuk: those are for writing apps
[03:47] <Fujitsu> archoille: They just aren't officially supported.
[03:47] <Toma-> houseoftainted: like i said, try zsnes, its got a nice gui
[03:48] <YukiIkyuta> kjdis: what are you looking for?
[03:48] <YukiIkyuta> Installation?
[03:48] <kjdis> I have not been able to find a sort of "DirectFB install/configure for dummies" hehe
[03:48] <mebaran151> Toma-, does Windows use a sound server
[03:48] <mebaran151> or do they use a library dmix solution?
[03:48] <eclecticpc> When you have a space in the name of a directory how do you tell linux to use that directory
[03:48] <houseoftainted> agroker,  xdcc?
[03:48] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: escape with a \ before the space.
[03:48] <Toma-> mebaran151: its a sounds server that automagically does dmix
[03:49] <Toma-> perhaps alsa will use dmix by default one of there days
[03:49] <Toma-> *these
[03:49] <mebaran151> it does
[03:49] <YukiIkyuta> kjdis: is there any directfb package? (try apt-cache search directfb)
[03:49] <mebaran151> but my machine is weird
[03:49] <mebaran151> it's a Via Envy
[03:49] <ardchoille> Fujitsu: ok, thanks
[03:49] <eclecticpc> so if i have a directory called "the stuff" it would be the\stuff  ?
[03:49] <Fujitsu> ecelecticpc: For example /usr/Some\ Long\ Folder
[03:49] <Toma-> eclecticpc: no, its "the\ stuff"
[03:50] <kjdis> Yuk: looks like there is pkgs
[03:50] <eclecticpc> toma- i c ok thanks   by the way that also goes for the terminal when trying to get into a directory with a space?
[03:50] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[03:50] <TokenBad> ok in evolution i had someone send me pics...and they load in the email...i try to right click on them to save them..and no way to...anyone know how to save them?
[03:50] <eclecticpc> thanks
[03:50] <YukiIkyuta> kjdis: whatever you see which looks like you need (eg. directfb-dev? anything ending in -dev?), ``apt-get install PACKAGE them
[03:50] <Toma-> eclecticpc: yeh, but try just hitting tab. no point spending all day typing a long file name
[03:51] <blanky> what's windows cls equivalent in linux (clear screen in terminal)
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> blanky: clear
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> At least, for bash.
[03:51] <navarone> token> try menu for something with Save Attachements
[03:51] <USCRyan> *question* whats a good filesharing program for ubuntu? new linux user here
[03:51] <blanky> thanks
[03:51] <eclecticpc> agroker, could you try sending me that file again
[03:51] <TokenBad> navarone, nope
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> USCRyan: try `nicotine', for the SoulSeek network.
[03:51] <USCRyan> tyukiikyuta, thx
[03:51] <Toma-> USCRyan: gtk-gnutella
[03:51] <kjdis> Yuk I might use apt-get, thanks
[03:51] <YukiIkyuta> kjdis: good luck.
[03:51] <houseoftainted> Toma-,  ok
[03:51] <houseoftainted> Toma-,  i like that emu :)
[03:52] <eclecticpc> hmmm didn't work
[03:52] <agroker> eclecticpc, trying....
[03:52] <YukiIkyuta> Brb ...
[03:52] <Existance> What should I do if when i boot ubuntu it crashes and says /dev/hde3 does not exist?
[03:52] <mustard5> houseoftainted, hmm..well I couldn't work out how to use it either :)
[03:52] <definity> i just downloaded kds for ubuntu now how do i get a KDE desktop?
[03:52] <navarone> mustard...what did I tell ya...lol
[03:52] <definity> im still on my gnome one?
[03:53] <Toma-> definity: have you installed it?
[03:53] <mustard5> houseoftainted, someone suggested you try zsnes
[03:53] <Natdigga_> mustard, bah...no go
[03:53] <eclecticpc> ok well that space thing didn't work
[03:53] <eclecticpc> :(
[03:53] <agroker> eclecticpc, failed
[03:53] <Fujitsu> Existance: Does tha partition exist?
[03:53] <Fujitsu> *the
[03:53] <eclecticpc> still said no such file or directory
[03:53] <mustard5> Natdigga_, yeah? what happened?
[03:53] <Natdigga_> mustard,got kicked to terminal
[03:53] <Existance> Fujitsu: most definantly, that's the one the ubuntu installed put the root on
[03:53] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  ok :) should i do an apt search of it?
[03:53] <Fujitsu> Existance: Has it worked previously?
[03:53] <Natdigga_> mustard, came up with that blue screen saying xwindows crashed.
[03:54] <Natdigga_> musatrd, finish helping houseoftainted
[03:54] <YukiIkyuta> Back.
[03:54] <Existance> Fujitsu: nope, this is directly after 5.10 Breezy installation
[03:54] <mustard5> houseoftainted, the package name is zsnes so you could just install via command line useing apt-get install zsnes
[03:54] <Natdigga_> mustard, I need to put my kid to bed.
[03:54] <mustard5> houseoftainted, with sudo in front
[03:54] <houseoftainted> mustard5,  already did :)
[03:54] <mustard5> Natdigga_, k
[03:54] <DShepherd> hey i am trying to install mozilla from source. I get this error --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5254
[03:54] <Fujitsu> Existance: Is it a normal IDE hard disk?
[03:54] <Toma-> DShepherd: why from source?
[03:54] <Natdigga_> mustard5, can you kick natdigga off?  That's me on at work.
[03:54] <USCRyan> toma, do i have to install anything else to run gtk?
[03:54] <Existance> Fujitsu: yea, although it's the 1st one its hde for some reason, its the IDE1 Master hdd
[03:54] <DShepherd> Toma-:  I want firefox 1.5 :)
[03:55] <Toma-> USCRyan: if you use apt-get no.
[03:55] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I don't have mod powers :)
[03:55] <Fujitsu> It should be hda1...
[03:55] <Fujitsu> Brb
[03:55] <USCRyan> toma, how do i do that? =)
[03:55] <eclecticpc> if i have a folder called "The Music" which is located in my home directory how would i tell xchat to put my downloads in that folder?
[03:55] <Toma-> DShepherd: no need to build anything from source.
[03:55] <navarone> existance> how many paritions are set up on drive(s)
[03:55] <cedricc> i got a 30gig with 512ram .. i wanna know how to format it correctly wich partition wich size and wich format
[03:55] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I think you can ghost your nick via some irc command if you have the password
[03:55] <Toma-> USCRyan: apt-get install gtk-gnutella, or use synaptic
[03:55] <DShepherd> Toma, really... how so then?
[03:55] <Existance> navarone: 4 hde1 = Windows hde2 = NTFS hde3 = ubuntu root hde5 = extended swap for ubuntu
[03:56] <Toma-> DShepherd: i used this quick howto and it works fine, http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[03:56] <drogba> has anyone got lighthttpd to run on ubuntu?
[03:56] <eclecticpc> agroker, try again?
[03:56] <USCRyan> toma, what is synaptic? sorry im new
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> cedricc: you can split it how you like.
[03:56] <DShepherd> Toma checking it out now
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> cedricc: do you want to keep any existing data?
[03:56] <mustard5> Natdigga_, try this in IRC   /msg nickserv help ghost
[03:56] <navarone> existance> how many drives?
[03:56] <Toma-> obviously just get the latest release from firefox
[03:56] <Existance> navarone: just one
[03:57] <Toma-> USCRyan: click System > Admin > Synaptic
[03:57] <Existance> navarone: i've talked to some people and they said its alright that's its hde, just kinda wierd
[03:57] <navarone> hmm...existance...was asking cos first time I have seen hde and not hda
[03:57] <afabian> cedricc, put it all in one big partition.  if you don't have any reason to do otherwise, then don't.  it's mostly a needless complication on a "desktop" system.  historically, there were good reasons for more partitions.  and still are, for certain systems.
[03:57] <Existance> navarone: heh
[03:57] <cedricc> no there is no need to keep any data
[03:57] <Existance> navarone: i have no idea how to fix it so i'm planning on just leaving it
[03:57] <cedricc> should i make a boot partion
[03:57] <cedricc> and a swap one
[03:58] <YukiIkyuta> cedricc, do as afabian says - all in one big partition will do.
[03:58] <YukiIkyuta> cedricc, a swap partition IS useful, however if you have enough RAM and you think you won't need one, it's less important. a swap file might do.
[03:58] <agroker> eclecticpc, failed
[03:58] <eclecticpc> how in the hell do you do the friggin space thing
[03:58] <Toma-> make sure the swap file is at the start of the drive tho.
[03:58] <agroker> eclecticpc, ask anybody else, perhaps its a problem on my side
[03:58] <eclecticpc> the \ doesn't work
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Back.
[03:58] <USCRyan> toma, i dont see it listed under synaptic, does it have a different name?
[03:58] <Existance> Fujitsu: it shouldnt be hda1 because i have windows and another NTFS partition as the first two
[03:59] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: Where are you entering it?
[03:59] <mustard5> houseoftainted, I found this in synaptic  snes9express   a gtk frontend (GUI)
[03:59] <Toma-> USCRyan: hit alt+F2 then type synaptic
[03:59] <eclecticpc> in xchat
[03:59] <morphix> YukiIkyuta about that swap partition thing.. what if u have 1gb ram is that more than sufficient? lol
[03:59] <Fujitsu> Existance: hda3, then?
[03:59] <definity> how do i change to brezzy badger?
[03:59] <USCRyan> toma, im running synaptic, i cant find gnutella listed under the applications
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> morphix: well, I have a gig of RAM, but I still like a swap partition.
[03:59] <Existance> Fujitsu: yeah, but i've been told it's alright for it to be hde, just a little wierd
[03:59] <eclecticpc> i want my downloads to go to a folder called "The Music" which is located in my home directory
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> morphix: my swap partition is a whole GB, but I have a 200GB hard drive, so it doesn't impact it so much. :)
[03:59] <mebaran151> no luck with that one
[03:59] <Toma-> USCRyan: ahhh you need to enable multiverse and universe.... Click Settings > Repositories
[03:59] <mustard5> USCRyan, you probably need to enable extra repositories
[03:59] <Toma-> got that up?
[03:59] <mebaran151> that doesn't work, the asound.conf provided
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> get out of the Habbit of using spaces in file/dir names - is a good idea. :P
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> mebaran151: ack ><
[04:00] <morphix> i got told that ext3 is somehow readable in windows.. is that true?
[04:00] <mebaran151> yeah, exactly
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> morphix: definitely!
[04:00] <mebaran151> morphix, yeah
[04:00] <Existance> morphix: explore2fs
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> !google explore2fs
[04:00] <eclecticpc> Fujitsu, did you get that?
[04:00] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> Meh.
[04:00] <Toma-> USCRyan: now click the one labeled Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy" (Binary) then click edit
[04:00] <morphix> oh ok.
[04:00] <Fujitsu> Existance: At the GRUB prompt, there is a way of getting to a shell. There, type 'linux root=/dev/hde3'. If that doesn't work, try hde4, etc.
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> morphix: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> morphix,  yes - theres also the 'IFS' filesystem add on for XP that makes xp able to read/write an ext3 partition
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> morphix: there's even an IFS (installable filesystem) ..
[04:01] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: In what program?
[04:01] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis: I believe the IFS is read-only.
[04:01] <Fujitsu> morphix: ext2ifs has RW access.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  :P i write to it all the time
[04:01] <mebaran151> Dr_Willis, I didn't know we had a real mountaqble fs!
[04:01] <Toma-> USCRyan: following?
[04:01] <eclecticpc> Fujitsu, xchat i want my dcc download to go into a folder called "The Music" which is located in my home directory
[04:01] <morphix> hmm ok.
[04:01] <Existance> Fujitsu: there's a prompt at GRUB?  i thought it was a up or down and hit enter kind of thing
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> mebaran151,  yea - saw it on slash dot a few mo ago.. let me find the url
[04:01] <YukiIkyuta> Existance: pressed shift, or escape before? :)
[04:02] <definity> how do i change desktops?
[04:02] <USCRyan> toma, yes
[04:02] <Existance> Yukilkyuta: many times, just not in GRUB :P
[04:02] <Camo> question: i need an alarm clock program that can use the system speaker, as my main speakers are never connected or always failing
[04:02] <navarone> existance are you using 64bit version?
[04:02] <Existance> navarone: Athlon XP 3000+
[04:02] <mustard5> definity, what do you mean? KDE to Gnome and vice versa?
[04:02] <YukiIkyuta> XP
[04:02] <Toma-> USCRyan: ok, now under the Sections part, add (with spaces) multiverse and universe
[04:02] <definity> yeh
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/   - to let ya read/write ext3/2 under windows xp. :P
[04:02] <mustard5> definity, you choose it as a session at the login screen
[04:02] <Toma-> then OK and OK and let it refresh
[04:02] <USCRyan> toma, got it, and i just finished downloading it
[04:03] <USCRyan> toma, now i have to manually install it?
[04:03] <Fujitsu> Dr_Willis: That's what I was thinking of!
[04:03] <Toma-> sooper
[04:03] <Existance> Fujitsu: alright, i'll go try that grub prompt thing then :)
[04:03] <Toma-> USCRyan: hehe no. it installs it for you
[04:03] <definity> i downloaded kde and it just looks like my gnome desks the login menuetop, all that is diffrent is the login menu
[04:03] <USCRyan> toma, awesome i see it now, thank you!
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Fujitsu,  yea - theres getting to be a few 'similary' named things  in this area
[04:03] <definity> thx :)
[04:03] <eclecticpc> Fujitsu, get it that time?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Fujitsu,  ive had very good luck with it so far
[04:03] <definity> do you knw any good places for theams by any chance?
[04:03] <Toma-> no probs! synaptic and apt-get are some incredible useful apps you should get to know
[04:03] <navarone> Existance> this guy has similar experience with amd64 kernel  http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php/product/607   Look for JeanBrowneharrel
[04:03] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: XChat... I don't know. I will check.
[04:03] <navarone> oops
[04:04] <mustard5> definity, not off the top of my head...but someone else in here might know
[04:04] <Camo> anyone know of an alarm clock that uses the system speaker?
[04:04] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: It looks like you shouldn't need to escape, so try without the \s.
[04:04] <USCRyan> toma, im on a college network and they block most filesharing ports, the only p2p app that i could get to work under winxp was ares galaxy, hope this works
[04:04] <Toma-> definity: go back to the login, and click Session and select KDE instead of gnome and youll go into kde
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Camo,  i recall some 'system speaker' beeper program :P with that you could write one with a little bit of shell scripting
[04:05] <definity> thanks
[04:05] <mustard5> definity, actually I found something
[04:05] <Toma-> USCRyan: what ports?
[04:05] <mustard5> !tell definity about themes
[04:05] <Camo> but i are a n00b :D
[04:05] <mustard5> definity, check PM from ubotu
[04:05] <definity> dose any one know a good site for theams?
[04:05] <eclecticpc> Fujitsu, can you send me a test file?
[04:05] <Toma-> USCRyan: gtk-gnutella can specify what ports to use
[04:05] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: Wait a sec...
[04:05] <Toma-> definity: you useing kde or gnome?
[04:05] <Madpilot> definity: you mean desktop themes?
[04:06] <USCRyan> toma, im not sure, i know they blocked all windows file/priter sharing ports, and i guess the default p2p ports?
[04:06] <Fujitsu> eclecticpc: It is sending... Are you behind a firewall or anything?
[04:06] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: I sure hope I have a spare spot on the IDE cable ..
[04:06] <Camo> hmm.. im just gonna dig up some old speakers and use kalarm then
[04:06] <Toma-> hmm i see
[04:06] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta: HEH.
[04:06] <Madpilot> !tell definity about themes
[04:06] <eclecticpc> Fujitsu, nothing that should be blocking it
[04:06] <mustard5> Madpilot, Toma- I just sent him the ubotu info so he might be off reading
[04:06] <Toma-> !themes
[04:06] <mustard5> hehe
[04:06] <Madpilot> mustard5: the same one I just sent him? never mind :P
[04:06] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: maybe I could put Mikaelea's floppy disk drive in Xyrias. XD
[04:07] <Toma-> wow... its like, almost everthing i was going to say :/
[04:07] <mustard5> Madpilot, yeah..hes got two copies now :)
[04:07] <YukiIkyuta> Actually, I think I -will-.
[04:07] <YukiIkyuta> Net split!
[04:07] <Fujitsu> ?
[04:08] <YukiIkyuta> Every joining and leaning ..
[04:08] <YukiIkyuta> leaving*!
[04:09] <rhoffa_> what is a good program to change my themes or customize my gui for ubuntu
[04:09] <Toma-> just usual traffic
[04:09] <agroker> where does the 'info' directory reside under Ubuntu?
[04:09] <Madpilot> YukiIkyuta: no, an actual netsplit on a channel this populated is much, much "louder" ;)
[04:09] <Toma-> rhoffa: gnome-art
[04:09] <Fujitsu> System->Preferences->Theme
[04:09] <YukiIkyuta> Madpilot:... you have a very good point! XD
[04:09] <YukiIkyuta> It was just very suddenly quiet. oO
[04:09] <Fujitsu> Madpilot: True.
[04:09] <rhoffa> thanks
[04:09] <rhoffa> can i apt-get install it?
[04:09] <Fujitsu> rhoffa: It is built in!
[04:09] <Madpilot> rhoffa: gnome-art? yes.
[04:10] <_native_> postgres or mysql? hum opions anyone?
[04:10] <Fujitsu> MySQL!
[04:11] <YukiIkyuta> MYSQL!!!!!!!
[04:11] <Fujitsu> 653 people left...
[04:11] <Fujitsu> 652...
[04:11] <Existance> Fujitsu: the grub cmd line didn't recogize 'linux root=/dev/hde3'
[04:11] <Fujitsu> Existance: What did it say?
[04:11] <YukiIkyuta> _native_: postgres is very old, and it's quite ugly in the manner it works.
[04:11] <_native_> im listening to binrev radio they're raving about postgres
[04:11] <Existance> Fujitsu: not a recognized command
[04:11] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[04:11] <navarone> rhoffa> ddi you get pm earlier about phex launcher?
[04:12] <navarone> lol
[04:12] <Fujitsu> That command would have worked in LILO, not GRUB >>>_<<<
[04:12] <_native_> yeah mysql it is.
[04:12] <_native_> ;] 
[04:12] <Existance> Fujitsu: hehe
[04:12] <rhoffa> yes im checking it now
[04:12] <rhoffa> thank you
[04:12] <navarone> np
[04:12] <Existance> Fujitsu: it sets root=/dev/hde3 in menu.lst though..
[04:12] <Fujitsu> Ahh.
[04:13] <Fujitsu> menu.lst is what you want to look at...
[04:13] <Fujitsu> Are you _sure_ that is the right partition?
[04:13] <Existance> Fujistu: it gets to the splashscreen, but when it intializes dev it crashes
[04:13] <Existance> Fujitsu: yup
[04:13] <Existance> Fujistu: i can look at it in explore2fs
[04:14] <Fujitsu> It crashes on initializing dev!!?? What error message again?
[04:14] <Existance> Fujitsu: /dev/hde3 does not exist
[04:14] <slashx1896> Hey all
[04:14] <agroker> where does the 'info' directory reside under Ubuntu?
[04:14] <_native_> /usr/
[04:14] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: Can I alias a path in apache to my /home/username/.... ? I am trying to and keep getting a 403
[04:14] <YukiIkyuta> agroker: what info do you want? xP
[04:14] <navarone> http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php/product/607  Existance this guy similar problem  JeanBrowneharrel is one to look for in thread
[04:14] <Existance> will do
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: make sure permissions are set so world can read/execute your home directory if you do that!
[04:15] <navarone> existance...no siolution tho
[04:15] <Amaranth> logical_mark: If you have /home/username/public_html then http://localhost/~username/ should work
[04:15] <Existance> navarone: ah, heh.
[04:15] <rhoffa> where do i find gnome-art to run it
[04:15] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, I'd like to add an info file for a newsly installed program, it says "On tammy.harvard.edu, it is  /usr/lib/gemacs/info"
[04:15] <thewayofzen> Has anyone else had problems with Nautilus since the upgrade a few days back? Currently using ubuntu (breezy) after doing a system upgrade the other day my Nautilus was replaced with a newer version from the repos.  The problem though is that now it seems to keep leaving cd icons on my desktop when i put blank cds in.  the icon  "Blank CD-R Disc"  will not go away when the disc is ejected and the tray is empty.  Is there a way to correct this?
[04:15] <logical_mark> Amaranth, it is /home/mark/work/www ... so the dir HAS to be public_html?
[04:16] <navarone> Existance> I saw thread with guy using Mepis and he had same prob...but the hde was mount for his flash card
[04:16] <YukiIkyuta> Ah, that sort ..
[04:16] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: it can be changed in Apache's own configuration.
[04:16] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, yes sir, how should I call that type of info?
[04:16] <Amaranth> logical_mark: Unless you mess with apache's config to setup a vhost or something it has to be public_html
[04:16] <Fujitsu> Existance: Sounds like Linux is giving it the proper name, but GRUB isn't...
[04:16] <Fujitsu> It is IDE1 Master?
[04:16] <Existance> Fujitsu: yup
[04:16] <YukiIkyuta> agroker: I'm not even sure, that's just the `Info' system. Honestly, I don' tknow where that's located ...
[04:17] <Fujitsu> Existance: Try changing menu.lst to reference /dev/hda3...
[04:17] <Existance> Fujitsu: mm, k
[04:17] <slashx1896> for e02a, after i delted the line from 'generic.hk' it says to type 'sudo /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup restart' but when i do i get 'sudo: /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup: command not found
[04:17] <slashx1896> ' Where do i type it?
[04:17] <logical_mark> Amaranth, I guess I should just name it public_html then right? Any reasonI would want vhosts?
[04:17] <Amaranth> logical_mark: public_html would be easiest
[04:17] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: Yes, public_html. No vhosts.
[04:18] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, the problem is in every other distor it is in different place...
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> agroker: of course, of course. Try `locate'ing some of the info files you know exist?
[04:18] <rhoffa> where do i find the gnome-art program?
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> Or `man info' might tell you.
[04:18] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, that's what I'm gonna do :-)
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: there's a ridiculous amount of dust here..
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> agroker: good luck!
[04:18] <rhoffa> i installed it but it isnt in my applications list
[04:18] <Natdigga_> mustard5, you still there?
[04:18] <Fujitsu> rhoffa: I don't believe it is a program. System->Preferences->Themes.
[04:18] <Fujitsu> gnome-art is simply a group of themes.
[04:18] <navarone> rhoffa> type gnome-art in terminal
[04:18] <slashx1896> Anyone?
[04:18] <rhoffa> is there pages to download themes
[04:19] <rhoffa> and do the themes just change the colors i want some total overhaul themes is that possible with this prog
[04:19] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I'm back now
[04:19] <rhoffa> or whatever it is
[04:19] <YukiIkyuta> slashx1896: it means you haven't got the hotkey-setup file in there; you're typing it at the right place.
[04:19] <DShepherd> Toma-: thanks, it worked like a charm. RESPECT!!
[04:19] <Fujitsu> rhoffa: It can complete change everything.
[04:19] <K_Dallas> Q: how do i use console-terminus fonts? I dont see them in sys-pref-fonts (or i am looking the wrong place) thanks
[04:19] <purplefeltangel> i messed something up in esound/ alsa . . . how do i completely reinstall my sound drivers to the way it is out of the box?
[04:19] <Natdigga_> mustard5, alright....so where do we start?  Square 1?
[04:19] <navarone> Fujitsu...typing gnome-art in termianl will bring up gui to download new backgrounds/themes etc directly from gnome-art web site
[04:19] <slashx1896> YukiTkyuta: so wat do i do?
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Oh. Oop.s
[04:20] <rhoffa> fujitsu - i can onnly choose themes that i have
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> slashx1896: sounds like you don
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> oops!
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> slashx1896: sounds like you don't have hotkey installed?
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Listen to navarone, not me...
[04:20] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I would think you run a command that will reset your xorg.conf then start from there....I'll just look it up
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> slashx1896: try `sudo apt-get install hotkey-setup'
[04:20] <rhoffa> nevermind i think i found it out
[04:20] <rhoffa> is there anyway to incorporate a dock?
[04:20] <mustard5> Natdigga_, what model card you got?
[04:20] <Amaranth> Natdigga_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:20] <Natdigga_> mustard5, I am back in xwindows
[04:21] <Amaranth> rhoffa: gdesklets
[04:21] <Ophiocus> !dns
[04:21] <ubotu> Ophiocus: No idea
[04:21] <zack> hmm. i updated my kernel in dapper, and it won't boot. but, booting with my old kernel reveals that ACPI and my ipw2200 are newly-broken. is there any workaround for this?
[04:21] <navarone> rhoffa> it takes some time to download those things tho...so choose gnome files only and not all...or anything else but All...lol
[04:21] <slashx1896> YukiTkyuta: ok i installed it, but im stil gettin the same error
[04:21] <Amaranth> zack: Don't use dapper. :)
[04:21] <mustard5> Natdigga_, there is an irc chat client you can use from terminal
[04:21] <Toma-> slashx1896: what does "ls /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup" return?
[04:21] <zack> Amaranth: yeah, uh, too late ;)
[04:21] <Amaranth> zack: The kernel is in flux and hotplug just went away for good.
[04:21] <mustard5> Natdigga_, can you connect to internet in terminal?
[04:21] <Natdigga_> mustard, oh I reverted everything I did.
[04:21] <Natdigga_> mustard5, sure
[04:21] <mustard5> Natdigga_, k
[04:21] <slashx1896> ls: /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup: No such file or directory
[04:22] <Toma-> slashx1896: what do u think that means :)
[04:22] <zack> Amaranth: right, which i knew - but i thought the new kernel would at least boot, and that i'd still be able to use my old one... yeah, i know, horrible assumptions :)
[04:22] <slashx1896> lol
[04:22] <slashx1896> that its not installed..
[04:22] <Natdigga_> mustard5, I have a ATI 3D rage LT Pro AGP-133
[04:22] <mustard5> Natdigga_, k
[04:22] <Amaranth> zack: kernel and userland stuff like udev are closely tied
[04:22] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I'm going to run a search in the forums for some clues
[04:22] <Toma-> slashx1896: and you've tried re-insta;lling hotkey-setup ?
[04:22] <navarone> rhoffa> you can download extra gnome icons too in Synaptic...then when you browse for icons type /other after the default location and they will load.
[04:22] <Natdigga_> mustard5, kk
[04:22] <zack> Amaranth: yeah :/
[04:23] <Amaranth> zack: i'm guessing the userland stuff got updated to only work with 2.6.15 and 2.6.15 doesn't work for everyone right now
[04:23] <slashx1896> when i type sudo apt-get install hotkey-setup
[04:23] <slashx1896>  it says hotkey-setup is already the newest version
[04:23] <Amaranth> who put broken_ladder on akick?
[04:23] <zack> Amaranth: that's the case, yeah. damn SATA boot drives... i might be fine otherwise
[04:23] <rhoffa> is there any favorites that anyone use
[04:23] <mustard5> Natdigga_, heh..well I found your thread :)
[04:23] <Natdigga_> mustard5, >:)
[04:23] <Toma-> slashx1896: try "dpkg-reconfigure hotkey-setup"
[04:23] <Natdigga_> mustard5, no replies though :(
[04:24] <mustard5> Natdigga_, no
[04:24] <zack> Amaranth: see, i tried downgrading udev and reinstalling hotplug, but that didn't fix anything.
[04:24] <Amaranth> zack: Yeah, I only use dapper in a vmware player image.
[04:24] <slashx1896> Toma- /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[04:24] <Natdigga_> mustard5, wondering if I'm just going to have to suck it up and accept it.
[04:24] <zack> Amaranth: which is why you're smarter than me :)
[04:24] <Toma-> slashx1896: what do u think that means ;)
[04:24] <slashx1896> lol i know what it means but how
[04:24] <Amaranth> zack: Which never boots, because it takes a snapshot when I close it and then reloads everything exactly how it was.
[04:24] <mustard5> Natdigga_, no opengl and hardware acceleration?
[04:24] <Toma-> sudo dpkg-blah
[04:25] <Toma-> gosh dood :(
[04:25] <slashx1896> i so knew that
[04:25] <Natdigga_> mustard, nope the only way I can tell is that the screen savers run like crap
[04:25] <Toma-> ;D
[04:25] <slashx1896> Nothing happend
[04:25] <purplefeltangel> i messed something up in esound/ alsa . . . how do i completely reinstall my sound drivers to the way it is out of the box?
[04:25] <Toma-> amazing. nothing is ment to.
[04:25] <Toma-> slashx1896: see if the file is there now
[04:25] <Natdigga_> mustard, my card just might be too old and there's nothing out there for it...if so I can accept that and wait till I get a newer machine.
[04:26] <mustard5> Natdigga_ , yeah..bit hard to say what to do...ATI is a bit of a pain sometimes with linux
[04:26] <slashx1896> Toma- Nope
[04:26] <Toma-> grr
[04:26] <succubus_-_> no C compiler in ubuntu?
[04:26] <zack> and the understatement of the year award goes to...
[04:26] <Amaranth> succubus_-_: install the build-essential package
[04:27] <Toma-> slashx1896: have u tried apt-get remove the package the apt-get install it?
[04:27] <Fujitsu> I never got why it was build-essential, and not build-essentials!
[04:27] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I would think you might have more luck with help with someone who actually has ATI card too
[04:27] <Natdigga_> mustard5, anyone know of a cheap pci nvidia card I can buy?  My AGP port is 2x.
[04:27] <slashx1896> no, i will tho
[04:27] <mustard5> Natdigga_, I'm on nvidia so my experience is limited
[04:27] <Natdigga_> mustard5, Thanks that's kool...it's only been two days.  something will come up.
[04:27] <Natdigga_> mustard5, btw mustard did you ever play RtCW ET?
[04:28] <mustard5> Natdigga_, you can run your system on VESA drivers for now
[04:28] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: The package isn't really for random people to be able to build things, that's a nice side effect.
[04:28] <slashx1896> Toma- still nope
[04:28] <Toma-> slashx1896: you serious?
[04:28] <mustard5> Natdigga_, no..not online at least...I tested it out as a possible replacement for counterstrike, but I didnt like it much
[04:28] <Natdigga_> mustard5, that's kool when I do the config it runs with the ati driver?  maybe my card just sucks with opengl and ATI
[04:28] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: It's all of the things you _know_ are on a buildd so you don't have to explicitly depend on them in your package.
[04:28] <mustard5> Natdigga_, could be :)
[04:29] <rhoffa> is there any webpages where people show off there ubuntu desktop, where it says there themes and such so i can see what i like
[04:29] <z3d3> hey all...i've got a External Sony DRX-510UL DVD+-RW drive. I have plugged it into my system...but I don't know what device to mount it as
[04:29] <Natdigga_> mustard5, ok I was wandering there was a colonel mustard I used to play with he was bad ass thought you were him.
[04:29] <slashx1896> Toma- yes i removed then installed and it still says 'No such file or directory'
[04:29] <Suentis> I'm having a problem with wine, can anyone assist?
[04:29] <Fujitsu> Amaranth: I guess.
[04:29] <z3d3> I dont have any /dev/sr* devices
[04:29] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: The essential part of the buildd. :)
[04:29] <succubus_-_> packages are a little out of date, eh?
[04:29] <Amaranth> succubus_-_: gcc 4 and friends are out of date?
[04:29] <mustard5> Natdigga_, naah..I was a counterstrike player but never RTcW
[04:29] <logical_mark> Hey can anyone tell me why firefox is telling me that phpmyadmin is a PHTML file and asking me to download it. I just used apt-get install phpmyadmin to install it...
[04:29] <succubus_-_> xmms is out of date
[04:29] <Natdigga_> mustard5, know of any decent nVidia PCI cards?
[04:29] <Natdigga_> cheap
[04:29] <Amaranth> succubus_-_: oh, you want the gtk2 shininess?
[04:29] <Amaranth> :)
[04:29] <Natdigga_> that works with ubuntu
[04:30] <z3d3> oh wait
[04:30] <succubus_-_> i need it for Audioscrobbler
[04:30] <nerdy2> logical_mark, do you have apache set up to serve php?
[04:30] <Amaranth> succubus_-_: enable the backports repository
[04:30] <Toma-> slashx1896: ok, how about "apt-get --purge remove hothey-setup" then install it again
[04:30] <AstralSin> im having trouble installing 5.10, it happens while its getting installation info from the cd, after it scans the cd.. any ideas what's wrong? ive burned 2 cds thinking that the first may have been a bad burn, but it wasnt
[04:30] <z3d3> i plugged it into a different USB drive, and now it is working
[04:30] <logical_mark> nerdy2
[04:30] <z3d3> yay!
[04:30] <logical_mark> nerdy2: yes I do
[04:30] <Toma-> err hotkey
[04:30] <Amaranth> !tell succubus_-_ about backports
[04:30] <Fujitsu> AstralSin: What is the error?
[04:30] <robotgeek> AstralSin: did you check the iso? md5summed it?
[04:30] <mustard5> Natdigga_, not sure... my card is a hand me down from my brother.  Nvidia FX 5200
[04:30] <Amaranth> mustard5: That's some hand-me-down.
[04:30] <slashx1896> Toma- E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:30] <slashx1896> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:30] <navarone> Amaranth> i wonder what the monkey from Friends is doing now? Is he finding work?
[04:30] <z3d3> mustard5, I have that card at word, is yours dualhead to?
[04:30] <Suentis> I am trying to get WoW to work via wine, but when I try wine WoW.exe it tells me wine: command not found.  Did I mess something up during the wine install?
[04:30] <existance> Fujitsu: score, it worked.  I'm on ubuntu :)
[04:30] <mustard5> Amaranth, heh
[04:30] <AstralSin> it tells me to check the integrity of the disc and retry, the disc is fine.. but when i retry it still fails
[04:30] <Amaranth> slashx1896: sudo
[04:30] <logical_mark> nerdy2: I have php5 installed, and a phpinfo file displaying just fine
[04:30] <Toma-> slashx1896: sudo again.
[04:30] <Fujitsu> Existance: Yay!
[04:30] <z3d3> slashx1896, you need to run that command as "sudo"
[04:31] <Amaranth> navarone: I think he died, actually. Why do you ask?
[04:31] <zack> woooo
[04:31] <slashx1896> AHH sorry :(
[04:31] <existance> Is there any way for me to play music off an NTFS partition?
[04:31] <mustard5> z3d3, I wouldnt know what a dualhead is :)
[04:31] <Fujitsu> Existance: How do you like it?
[04:31] <navarone> Amaranth> I thought yuo made reference to Friends being out of date
[04:31] <robotgeek> Amaranth: ati hell?
[04:31] <Toma-> slashx1896: i dont let anyone copy and paste my commands without a sudo. its madness!
[04:31] <existance> Fujitsu: heh, just got in, i've played with it at school.  I mostly want to set up a ssh server :)
[04:31] <pawan> I was wondering how to paste middlemousebutton stuff with the keyboard instead. Anyone?
[04:31] <Natdigga_> Amaranth, you the ATI guru?
[04:32] <Amaranth> robotgeek: open source drivers
[04:32] <robotgeek> Amaranth: oh okay
[04:32] <Fujitsu> Existance: Good. It just wanted to be /dev/hda3?
[04:32] <Amaranth> Natdigga_: Nope, my ati card has 3d drivers that ship with xorg, it "Just Works".
[04:32] <Toma-> pawan: shift-insert
[04:32] <Suentis> I am trying to get WoW to work via wine, but when I try wine WoW.exe it tells me wine: command not found.  Did I mess something up during the wine install?
[04:32] <Natdigga_> Amaranth, KK
[04:32] <zack> "Slowly" ;)
[04:32] <z3d3> what is good dvd burning software for Gnome?
[04:32] <slashx1896> Reading package lists... Done
[04:32] <slashx1896> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:32] <slashx1896> E: Couldn't find package hothey-setup
[04:32] <AstralSin> robotgeek: yes, i've checked the md5sum, the disc is flawless
[04:32] <navarone> existance> I don't think there is a problem reading off ntfs
[04:32] <Toma-> slashx1896: note my spelling error.
[04:32] <nerdy2> logical_mark, and you are viewing the phpmyadmin page through apache (rather than say as a local file)?
[04:32] <existance> Fujitsu: Yea I guess Linux knows its hda, but grub thinks its hde
[04:32] <Amaranth> slashx1896: hotkey-setup
[04:33] <Toma-> :D
[04:33] <YukiIkyuta> Suentis: it's ambitious, but I'm not quite sure how well it will work. Assuming it will, the problem is that wine is not installed.
[04:33] <slashx1896> :P
[04:33] <robotgeek> AstralSin: burn it at a lower speed?
[04:33] <AstralSin> i tried
[04:33] <Natdigga_> later ya'll
[04:33] <existance> navarone: so can i just mount the partition and read it then?
[04:33] <Natdigga_> mustard5, thanks again.
[04:33] <Amaranth> existance: grub doesn't use hdX anything, it does (hd0,0) and such
[04:33] <AstralSin> are there any known problems reading from a scsi drive?
[04:33] <navarone> existance> you should be able to
[04:33] <slashx1896> yay!
[04:33] <logical_mark> nerdy2: Here is the situation. I am viewing it through my web browser at http://localhost/phpmyadmin ... now when I add a /index.php to the end of that phpmyadmin works fine
[04:33] <Fujitsu> Existance: You can't write, but you can read.
[04:33] <existance> Fujitsu: mmm, that's alright i guess
[04:33] <logical_mark> nerdy2: so how do I tell apache to look for the index file in a dir.?
[04:33] <slashx1896> Toma- it worked, its installed now
[04:34] <Toma-> slashx1896: fantastic.
[04:34] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: search in your apache.conf file for `index.html'
[04:34] <pawan> toma- : from an xterm running bash. shift-insert works for other stuff, yes.
[04:34] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: You need to add index.php that line.
[04:34] <Toma-> ahhh xterm.
[04:34] <Fujitsu> I can never remember that parameter, so I just search for index.html too ^_^
[04:34] <navarone> Fujitsu> If I convert a fat32 partition to ntfs, do i simply edit fstab to reflect change and that's it?
[04:34] <Fujitsu> navarone: Not quite.
[04:35] <navarone> bummer
[04:35] <nerdy2> logical_mark, there's a directive in the apache conf files that looks like "DirectoryIndex  index.html index.html  [maybe some others] "
[04:35] <AstralSin> robotgeek: are there any known problems reading from a scsi cd drive?
[04:35] <existance> Uhh, how can i add a monitor and/or change which monitor is primary?
[04:35] <Fujitsu> navarone: NTFS partitions like to have an extra option 'guid=0222' added to them.
[04:35] <Toma-> pawan: not sure sorry :/
[04:35] <robotgeek> AstralSin: not that i know of, but feel free to look around buzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <navarone> ahh...that ensures permissions and such?
[04:35] <pawan> toma- ctrl-v works from default gnome install too (like shift insert)
[04:35] <Fujitsu> navarone: In fstab, guid=0222 needs to be there, or only root can read it. NTFS is handled oddly.
[04:35] <nerdy2> logical_mark, add index.php to that list
[04:36] <Fujitsu> Otherwise the permissions are r-x------
[04:36] <AstralSin> cool, thanks.. i know this is a pretty isolated error.. if you guys dont know off the top of your head, then im not gonna bother you anymore.. goodnight
[04:36] <logical_mark> nerdy2: thanks, where is the apache.conf file?
[04:36] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: /etc/apache
[04:36] <navarone> Fujitsu> Was wondering cos I was gonna convert my present windows system disk to ntfs. But I would have deleted the entry from fstab any way i think and just leave the fat32 partitions
[04:36] <slashx1896> i restarted it and im still gettin the e02a thing in dmesg
[04:36] <YukiIkyuta> Or, logical_mark, /etc/apache2 (sometimes)
[04:36] <nerdy2> logical_mark, i'm running apache2 so for me it's in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[04:37] <nerdy2> logical_mark, for apache 1 it's in /etc/apache,  probably in httpd.conf iirc
[04:37] <z3d3> my DVD is burning in Lniux, holy chit!
[04:37] <Toma-> pawan: shift-insert works for me
[04:37] <z3d3> I am sooooo happy right now
[04:37] <z3d3> words can't describe
[04:38] <existance> is the filesystem option for mount -t NTFS?
[04:38] <Fujitsu> Existance: yes
[04:38] <existance> Fujitsu: cool :)
[04:38] <Fujitsu> Make sure you specify -o guid=0222 as well, though.
[04:38] <slashx1896> i did everything told to do on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/e02a  and im still getting the e02a mess on dmesg
[04:38] <rhoffa> if someone could check this link out and tell me how it is possible to configure your desktop like this it be cool http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128
[04:39] <Toma-> slashx1896: what mess
[04:39] <existance> Fujitsu: uhh, it said NTFS was an unknown fs
[04:39] <logical_mark> nerdy2, YujiIkyuta: I am running apache2 thanks.
[04:39] <slashx1896> Toma- click on the link it shows u
[04:39] <YukiIkyuta> existance: try lowercase `ntfs'
[04:39] <Toma-> oic
[04:39] <Fujitsu> existance: Yeah.
[04:39] <Fujitsu> existance: Lowercase...
[04:39] <Toma-> slashx1896: i get that too
[04:39] <existance> Fujitsu: there we go :)
[04:39] <Fujitsu> Existance: It works?
[04:40] <slashx1896> Toma- im trying to stop it from happening, and i did everythign told to do and still get it
[04:40] <existance> Fujistu: woo, yea :)
[04:40] <existance> Fujitsu: now i can get my music!
[04:40] <logical_mark> nerdy2, YujiIkyuta: index.php is already there... perhaps I need to add index.htm as well which is not
[04:40] <YukiIkyuta> ^^
[04:40] <existance> Are there any cool audio programs someone would recommend?
[04:41] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: check what files are in the phpmyadmin directory. If all else fails, try restarting Apache ^^
[04:41] <YukiIkyuta> existance: XMMS works.
[04:41] <nerdy2> logical_mark, well that's not necessary unless you actually use .htm :)
[04:41] <Toma-> slashx1896: youre not just trying to get a nicer looking dmesg are you?
[04:41] <slashx1896> existance, i use XMMS and Ryhthm Box
[04:41] <Fujitsu> And who would use htm? html, if anything!
[04:41] <_jason> existance, Beep Media Player
[04:41] <slashx1896> Toma- no lol
[04:41] <rhoffa> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128 how can i get a toolbar like that
[04:41] <z3d3> rhoffa, i dont know, but that looks pretty sweet
[04:41] <Toma-> slashx1896: then why bother?
[04:41] <existance> 2 vote for XMMS :)
[04:42] <slashx1896> Toma- my dmesg doesnt say anything but that....
[04:42] <YukiIkyuta> existance: used Winamp?
[04:42] <rhoffa> yea its crazy but i have no idea, i dont even know naythign about linux
[04:42] <slashx1896> toma- it doenst say what it normaly spposed to say it just says that e02a crap
[04:42] <existance> Yukilkyuta: up till now
[04:42] <Toma-> rhoffa: thats a design. what this person wants his gnome to look like
[04:42] <Fujitsu> XMMS is good, as is Rhythm Box
[04:42] <Amaranth> rhoffa: it looks like a mockup to me
[04:42] <Fujitsu> XMMS == Winamp
[04:42] <crsd> MusicPD + some client is better :)
[04:42] <Amaranth> rhoffa: it's not real
[04:42] <rhoffa> is there a gui that allows you to configure a toolbar like that
[04:43] <Fujitsu> rhoffa: It isn't real.
[04:43] <rhoffa> or do i have to code it
[04:43] <rhoffa> ohh...
[04:43] <Fujitsu> rhoffa: Code it if you can!
[04:43] <YukiIkyuta> existance: so basically, if you want something that acts and looks very similar to Winamp, XMMS is a good bet.
[04:43] <rhoffa> i cant code
[04:43] <Toma-> rhoffa: gdesklets mght be close
[04:43] <existance> Fujitsu: does it look cooler than winamp?
[04:43] <rhoffa> is that coding or gui
[04:43] <Fujitsu> existance: It can be skinned...
[04:43] <Toma-> rhoffa: gui
[04:43] <existance> Fujitsu: provided im not too lazy..
[04:43] <Toma-> slashx1896: weird :S
[04:44] <rhoffa> does anyone know offhand what their icon package or window theme is
[04:44] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu Human :P
[04:44] <Toma-> ahhhhhhh slashx1896 you may need to reload that module. or reboot
[04:44] <slashx1896> Toma- it all started when i was trying to mount my webcam...  someone said some commands that have to do with near the end of dmesg but all my dmesg says is e02a crap
[04:44] <mustard5> rhoffa, clearlooks
[04:44] <YukiIkyuta> I use the blue theme which is similar to Human .. its name I forget..
[04:44] <rhoffa> icons or window?
[04:45] <stevenj> rhoffa, alphacube
[04:45] <existance> I need to get Linux versions of my graphics cards drivers right?
[04:45] <Fujitsu> Existance: What card?
[04:45] <slashx1896> Toma- how do i reload the module? or shold i just reboot
[04:45] <Toma-> slashx1896: just reboot. i cbf showing u how to reload it ;D
[04:45] <rhoffa> alphacube and clearlooks is that icons or window theme?
[04:46] <slashx1896> cbf?
[04:46] <Toma-> cant be f-bothered-cked
[04:46] <existance> Fujitsu: one is Geforce MX4000 (PCI) and the other is Radeon 9800+ (SE or LE or such)
[04:46] <slashx1896> ah
[04:46] <slashx1896> lol
[04:46] <slashx1896> alrite
[04:46] <Toma-> ;)
[04:46] <stevenj> rhoffa, http://www.gnome-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=CiccioBueo
[04:46] <slashx1896> brb
[04:46] <Madpilot> !tell existance about ati
[04:46] <Madpilot> !tell existance about nvidia
[04:46] <mustard5> rhoffa, I'm using clearlooks theme with standard gnome icons
[04:46] <existance> Fujitsu: it defaulted to loading on the pci monitor...
[04:47] <pussfeller> how come I cant write to this ntfs formatted hard drive
[04:47] <existance> madpilot: ?
[04:47] <YukiIkyuta> pussfeller: there is no support for write.
[04:47] <mustard5> pussfeller, its not possible to write to ntfs in a general sense from linux
[04:47] <Madpilot> existance: you should have two message from ubotu now - one for each of your cards
[04:47] <pussfeller> doesnt ubuntu have ntfs write support?
[04:47] <Fujitsu> The ATI drivers should be there... But nVidia requires an extra package.
[04:47] <Fujitsu> pussfeller: Nop.
[04:47] <YukiIkyuta> pussfeller: nothing does.
[04:47] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: and does it? Damn. -_-;
[04:47] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta: Not quite true.
[04:47] <pussfeller> there has been right support in the kernel for years
[04:47] <pussfeller> write
[04:48] <YukiIkyuta> pussfeller: I am inclined to disagree.
[04:48] <existance> madpilot: ah.. im running irssi, how do i get to the messages?
[04:48] <YukiIkyuta> If anything, it is purely experimental, and not in the default build.
[04:48] <Fujitsu> Not in the kernel.
[04:48] <pussfeller> all the kernels I have seen and compiled
[04:48] <Fujitsu> linuxntfs.sf.net has dangerous support.
[04:48] <frogzoo> synaptic froze half 9/10s the way through upgrade to breezy - any ideas?
[04:48] <Madpilot> existance: no idea - just a sec, I'll post the URLs here for you
[04:48] <existance> madpilot: gratzi
[04:49] <logical_mark> nerdy2, YujiIkyuta: are eigther of you familiar with e107? I am trying to run e107 localy and when I go to the directory with e107 in it I get error 500. What causes those?
[04:49] <Madpilot> existance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:49] <niggpie> Does anyone know of a good Fluxbox tutorial?  I have it installed, however it looks absolutely empty.  I had to add programs to a menu through a .config file.. that's as far as I've gotten.  I'd like to add the System preferences and administration bars at the very least.  Thanks for your time and any info you can provide :)
[04:49] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: What is e107?
[04:49] <cibao> hello everyone...
[04:49] <Toma-> niggpie: get the progrom fluxconf
[04:49] <Fujitsu> 500 is a server error...
[04:50] <niggpie> Toma: there's a config program? hahahah silly me :$
[04:50] <agroker> screensavers under gnome - where to adjust how soon they start?
[04:50] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: e107.org , it is a cms
[04:50] <cibao> just got the latest ubuntu update which brought with it a new Kernel image 2.6.12.10-386.  Unfotunately, can;t properly configure lilo with the kernel
[04:50] <_jason> agroker, system preferences screensaver?
[04:50] <Madpilot> agroker: System menu - Prefs - Screensaver
[04:50] <Toma-> niggpie: hehee :D
[04:50] <nerdy2> [i'm not familiar with e107] 
[04:50] <cibao> the error I get is: Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
[04:50] <cibao>     Name change: '/dev/dm-1' -> '/dev/.static/dev/mapper/vg00-lvm_home'
[04:50] <cibao>     The kernel was compiled without DEVFS, but the '/dev' directory structure
[04:50] <cibao>         implements the DEVFS filesystem.
[04:50] <cibao> device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address
[04:50] <cibao> Fatal: device-mapper: dm_task_run(DM_DEVICE_TABLE) failed
[04:50] <niggpie> Toma: thanks! :D
[04:50] <existance> madpilot: so xorg-driver-fglrx has all the ATI drivers in it?
[04:50] <mustard5> cibao, paste in pastebin plz
[04:50] <agroker> _jason, amazingly, I can find there when to cycle through different screensavers, when to go blank, but there is nothing about how soon the screensaver starts!
[04:50] <Madpilot> existance: yes - at least for your 9800
[04:50] <Toma-> does anyone use the Aero theme for metacity and the colours for it? how is it possible to make it look cool?
[04:51] <existance> madpilot: cool, thanks
[04:51] <cibao> did a bunch of googling around and got no where...any thoughts?
[04:51] <Fujitsu> agroker: I believe blank is what you want.
[04:51] <_jason> agroker, "blank after" is the option
[04:51] <agroker> Fujitsu, let me try with 1 min setting...
[04:51] <agroker> _jason, thanks, still I find it strange
[04:52] <_jason> agroker, yeah I found it strange at first too, but it makes sense since it removes desktop from view
[04:53] <YukiIkyuta> Okay.
[04:53] <YukiIkyuta> I'll be back in 15.
[04:53] <K_Dallas> Q: would -->  unhup some-program & let me run the program even if i log off my account?
[04:53] <agroker> _jason, I remember from offtopic OS, that screen eventually can go blank after some time ;-)
[04:55] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: would a mysql user not having the right permissions cause a 500?
[04:55] <Fujitsu> Probably not, but maybe
[04:55] <Fujitsu> No.
[04:55] <SEJeff> logical_mark: no, a messed up apache module or error in the cgi would though
[04:55] <atrophic> 500 is internal server error, it's usually code
[04:55] <Fujitsu> No.
[04:56] <Fujitsu> 500 means you misconfigured Apache.
[04:56] <Fujitsu> Not a PHP code issue.
[04:56] <atrophic> or a cgi issue
[04:56] <logical_mark> SEJeff, phpmyadmin is working fine, so do you still think it is a module problem?
[04:56] <cibao> mustard5, sorry about that...its the first time I posted.  I used the pastebin
[04:56] <SEJeff> Fujitsu: No, it can be either
[04:56] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Well what do you go to when you get the 500
[04:56] <mustard5> cibao, np
[04:56] <atrophic> logical_mark, check the error log
[04:57] <mustard5> cibao, it all looks beyond me unfortunately
[04:57] <crsd> httpd_error.log is the best source for answers
[04:57] <logical_mark> atrophic: where would i find apache2 error log?
[04:57] <cibao> mustard5, np Its beyond me too :)
[04:57] <logical_mark> SEJeff, I am going to a mySQL db powered cms
[04:57] <SEJeff> logical_mark: /var/log/apache2/error_log
[04:57] <crsd> logical_mark: it's defined in your apache2 config
[04:57] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Well quit being so vague. What cms, what do you do to get a 500
[04:58] <SEJeff> logical_mark: I'll pretend to be the professional as I am a systems administrator and our webservers fall under my jurisdiction
[04:58] <atrophic> and I'll pretend to be a monkey
[04:58] <crsd> :)
[04:59] <SEJeff> atrophic: Are you sure you're just pretending ;-)
[04:59] <logical_mark> SEJeff, sorry did not mean to be vague. I hate it when I do that. The cms is e107 found at e107.org
[04:59] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Do you have a requirement of e107 being the cms?
[04:59] <atrophic> SEJeff, lots of practice ;) I should run for president
[05:00] <logical_mark> SEJeff, I just like it better than anything else I have delt with:PHPNuke, phpWebsite, Post-Nuke etc...
[05:00] <Jxpx> how can i view the aceess list of a chanel and how can i remove access ?please!!
[05:00] <atrophic> php-fusion and cms made simple are two other good ones
[05:00] <SEJeff> logical_mark: *nuke is horrible. never usedd phpWebsite
[05:00] <atrophic> Jxpx, on irc?
[05:00] <logical_mark> SEJeff, what do you like?
[05:00] <SEJeff> logical_mark: I recommend exponentcms or drupal to everyone
[05:00] <Jxpx> yes
[05:01] <Jxpx> atrophic,  to remove a nick from the access list
[05:01] <atrophic> Jxpx, what do you mean by access list? ban list?
[05:01] <Jxpx> no access list , the users who vace acess
[05:01] <Jxpx> @
[05:01] <Sneaky_Bastard> Access List = inverse of Ban List
[05:01] <tritium> Jxpx, you need to have the right access level for the channel, first off.
[05:01] <Sneaky_Bastard> list of people with access is far far far more restrictive than list of people baned.
[05:01] <Jxpx> i have it
[05:01] <Jxpx> :D
[05:02] <existance> madpilot: what were those websites again?
[05:02] <atrophic> don't think he's talking about this channel?
[05:02] <pundai> hey wtf the new version of ubuntu clicks stuff when i didnt click
[05:02] <Jxpx> how can i remove one ser fom the acess list!!
[05:02] <Jxpx> its easy ..
[05:02] <Amaranth> /cs access #channel del <something here>
[05:02] <mustard5> existance, for ATI ?
[05:02] <Amaranth> Jxpx: learn how to use chanserv help
[05:04] <existance> anyone know the howto site on ubuntu for ATI and nvidia drivers?
[05:04] <OgMaciel> Seveas: how are you?
[05:04] <mustard5> existance type !ati in channel
[05:04] <existance> !ati
[05:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:04] <existance> thanks
[05:04] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[05:04] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:04] <Madpilot> existance: that one too ^^^
[05:05] <logical_mark> SEJeff: The error log is reporting this error: [Wed Nov 30 21:51:40 2005]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico . But I would not think missing a fiel would cause a 500
[05:05] <logical_mark> SEJeff, It also repeats the alert: [Wed Nov 30 21:51:40 2005]  [alert]  [client 127.0.0.1]  /home/mark/public_html/portal/.htaccess: Options not allowed here
[05:05] <logical_mark> SEJeff, but there is no .htaccess in the folder
[05:05] <SEJeff> logical_mark: try 'cat error_log | grep -v favicon | less'
[05:05] <pundai> someoneeeeeeee has anyone noticed the mouse clicking when you drag with breezy
[05:06] <tritium> pundai, no...
[05:06] <pundai> tritium, its odd
[05:06] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Add AllowOverrides in the Options directive in your httpd.conf
[05:06] <mustard5> pundai, nope
[05:06] <pundai> i take the mouse over to "Applications" and it just opens
[05:06] <pundai> and any menu in between
[05:06] <mustard5> pundai, heh
[05:06] <pundai> like wtf
[05:06] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Are you sure there is no .htaccess? Try ls -a and it will show hidden files
[05:07] <pundai> mustard5, nooooooo not heh... annoying beyond windows
[05:07] <morphix> oh crap. i starting partitioning my hdd.. got ages to go..and now its storming(hail + thunder + lightining) hope power doesnt go out.
[05:07] <mustard5> pundai, mine doesnt do that at all
[05:07] <pundai> mustard5, obviously :(
[05:07] <logical_mark> SEJeff, there was a hidden .htaccess, how do I delete the file in terminal? Thanks
[05:07] <mustard5> pundai, what mouse you using?
[05:08] <K_Dallas> Q: I am reading on a few forum quesitons the howto for E17 but they are dated, what is the best way to install E17 on 5.10? thanks
[05:08] <pundai> mustard5, the one on my laptop
[05:08] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Why do you want to delete it? You probably shouldn't as it contains additional configuration for the cms
[05:08] <mustard5> pundai, bit of a mystery..I can't see anything in the options that would make that happen
[05:08] <SEJeff> logical_mark: any file that starts with a . is a hidden file. That is how 'nix behaves
[05:08] <pundai> mustard5, ditto
[05:08] <mizarc> does anyone know if the wpa_supplicant for breezy works with the airport/hermes/orinoco card and wpa/tkip encryption? my installed copy doesn't list (with 'wpa_supplicant -h') hermes, airport, or orinoco listed as supported
[05:09] <mustard5> pundai, check system preferences windows and see if that has something relevant
[05:09] <logical_mark> SEJeff, under options directive should it just say AllowOverides, b/c right now it says AllowOveride none
[05:10] <pundai> mustard5, nothing :(
[05:10] <mustard5> pundai, yeah I just tried the 'select window' option to see if that did it
[05:10] <mustard5> pundai, can't recreate the problem
[05:10] <SEJeff> logical_mark: .htaccess is a file that *Overrides* directives in httpd.conf. AllowOverride doesn't allow .htaccess to work
[05:10] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Just remove the none from AllowOverride none
[05:10] <pundai> mustard5, i think there mustve been changes in the mouse driver or something
[05:11] <SEJeff> logical_mark: ** AllowOverride none doesn't allow .htaccess to work
[05:11] <existance> How can i add my other monitor to my desktop?
[05:12] <vanberge> does anyone know - are there any good virtual machines for ubuntu? similar to a vmware ?
[05:12] <Steil> vanberge: qemu
[05:12] <mustard5> pundai, I'm wondering whether you could reconfigure the mouse with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[05:12] <vanberge> Steil, you use this ?
[05:12] <mizarc> anyone? bueller? .....bueller?
[05:12] <logical_mark> SEJeff, why woudl apache2.conf not open anymore in text editor?
[05:13] <pundai> mustard5, i'll try that
[05:13] <mustard5> pundai, there is a typo in that command btw
[05:13] <Steil> vanberge: I don't use qemu. If I need a virtual machine, I use vmware. I've just heard qemu is decent.
[05:13] <mustard5> pundai, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <SEJeff> logical_mark: do ls -l apache2.conf
[05:13] <mustard5> pundai, choose defaults for questions you don't know the answer to
[05:13] <existance> anyone know how i can add my other monitor to the desktop?
[05:14] <logical_mark> SEJeff: I get this: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 12488 2005-11-30 22:10 apache2.conf
[05:14] <SEJeff> logical_mark: What editor do you use?
[05:15] <logical_mark> SEJeff: I use the default text editor by calling sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:16] <SEJeff> logical_mark: And what error are you getting?
[05:16] <arentie> hello...how may I add hibernate to the logon screen?
[05:16] <logical_mark> SEJeff: nevermind, I just closed and reopend terminal and now ti works
[05:16] <SEJeff> logical_mark: Very weird error
[05:16] <mizarc> does anyone know if the wpa_supplicant for breezy/powerpc works with the airport/hermes/orinoco card and wpa/tkip encryption? my apt installed copy doesn't list (with 'wpa_supplicant -h') hermes, airport, or orinoco as supported..
[05:16] <P8ntKid> How come i can play videos fine on the net using the mplayerplug-in but i can't play them locally?
[05:16] <mebaran151> can anyone help me with my asound.conf
[05:16] <mebaran151> I want to have alsa working again
[05:17] <mebaran151> DMIX won't ... mix anymore
[05:17] <mizarc> or is there another way to connect with wpa/tkip not using wpa_supplicant?
[05:17] <_jason> P8ntKid, you should be able to, what happens exactly?
[05:17] <logical_mark> SEJEff, you can go ahead and bet that it was something I was doing
[05:17] <mebaran151> I have ALSA 1.10 and it solves nothing
[05:17] <mustard5> mebaran151, you on breezy or hoary?
[05:17] <n0dl> where are the breezy java .deb?
[05:17] <mebaran151> breezy
[05:17] <_jason> !javadeb
[05:17] <ubotu> somebody said javadeb was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:17] <mebaran151> but I had to replace ALSA 1.09
[05:18] <mebaran151> 'cause the drivers didn't work with my sndcard AT ALL
[05:18] <mebaran151> a whole nice UNKNOWN SYMBOL error
[05:18] <mustard5> mebaran151, hmm k...you've probably moved past my limited expertise then :)
[05:18] <mebaran151> yeah I might have
[05:18] <mebaran151> the Via Envy 24HT is a pain to work with I suppose
[05:18] <crimsun> mebaran151: did you overwrite libasound2 as well?
[05:18] <mebaran151> I'm on nforce 4
[05:18] <mebaran151> yeah
[05:18] <mebaran151> I think I did
[05:19] <crimsun> ugh
[05:19] <gimmulf> How do i find out how good rated a website is at google?
[05:19] <P8ntKid> _jason: Well, im trying to play it in gmplayer. But i get an error.saying "MPlayer interupted by signal 11 in module:decode_video"
[05:20] <zcat[1] > Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:20] <crimsun> ok, what's the base here? 1.0.10 for -{driver/kernel,lib,tools,utils}?
[05:20] <zcat[1] > any suggestions ?
[05:20] <P8ntKid> _jason: It plays fine in totem. Just no sound.
[05:20] <_jason> P8ntKid, I haven't seent hat error before.  Same thing happen if you just use the mplayer command in a terminal?
[05:20] <crimsun> and what's the actual card?
[05:20] <P8ntKid> _jason: Yes.
[05:21] <_jason> P8ntKid, what kind of file?
[05:21] <P8ntKid> _jason: .avi
[05:21] <mustard5> zcat[1] , in what context is this error occuring?
[05:21] <zcat[1] > trying to run glxdemo
[05:21] <mebaran151> Multimedia audio controller
[05:21] <mebaran151>   snd-ice1724     : IC Ensemble Inc|ICE1724 [Envy24HT] 
[05:21] <zcat[1] > (or anything, basically, that uses glx)
[05:21] <_jason> P8ntKid, is this file available online?  I'd like to try it and see if it happens for my mplayer as well
[05:21] <crimsun> mebaran151: subvendor and subdevice ids, please
[05:22] <P8ntKid> _jason: Well, for some reason .wmv files seem to work now.
[05:22] <mebaran151> crimsun, from whence might I get that
[05:22] <mrkoje> Does anyone know how to change the resoultion of a monitor in Ubuntu, I have a laptop with a widescreen 1280x768 display but its only showing up as 1024x768
[05:22] <P8ntKid> _jason: So it must me avi files taht dont work anymore.
[05:22] <jdmpike> does anyone know when gnucash will be a GTK2 app?
[05:23] <mrkoje> Im not sure what needs to be changed in xorg.conf or if somthing else needs to be done
[05:23] <mebaran151> will lspci -v be sufficient?
[05:23] <crimsun> mebaran151: from lspci -nv
[05:23] <jdmpike> mrkoje, what kind of laptop do you have
[05:23] <mrkoje> jdmpike: its a sony vaio t350p   one of those small 2lb machines
[05:24] <mrkoje> has an intel video
[05:24] <mebaran151> crimsun, can I pm you?
[05:24] <jdmpike> mrkoje, I had a similar problem with my Dell 8200 when I changed to the proprietary nvidia drivers
[05:24] <crsd> mrkoje: can't you just choose it using System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution ?
[05:24] <mrkoje> jdmpike: intel extreme graphics...
[05:24] <crimsun> mebaran151: sure, make sure you're identified
[05:24] <jdmpike> mrkoje, you can try using the System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[05:25] <mrkoje> crsd: unfortunently no, it seems that the when the module is loaded for my screen it only "recognizes" 1024.768
[05:25] <mrkoje> xorg.conf's   lines are all 1280x768 though :(
[05:25] <mrkoje> jdmpike: that would be too easy
[05:25] <liquidboy> in nautilus, hwo do i get everything to open in the same window, without having a 'browser' interface?
[05:25] <jdmpike> mrkoje, but I had to add some args to xorg.conf to get mine to work
[05:26] <mrkoje> jdmpike: like what?
[05:26] <crsd> look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if this mode is available for your video adapter/monitor
[05:26] <Khaaaaan> damn this is frustrating as hell :)
[05:26] <Khaaaaan> :(
[05:26] <mebaran151> crimsun, get my pm?
[05:26] <mizarc> has anyone here used wpa_supplicant or connected with wpa/tkip and an airport (non-extreme) card on breezy?
[05:27] <Khaaaaan> Does anyone know if Enemy Territory can use ALSA?
[05:27] <mustard5> mebaran151, you registered and identified to nickserv?
[05:27] <QMario> How do I paste images for people to see here?
[05:27] <mebaran151> yep
[05:27] <mrkoje> crsd: thanks for that tidbit...
[05:27] <P8ntKid> _jason: No, .avi files dont play in firefox either.
[05:27] <mustard5> mebaran151, k
[05:27] <mebaran151> yep it tells me I'm already identified
[05:27] <mebaran151> P8ntKid, get totem or something
[05:27] <P8ntKid> _jason: It just loads to 100% and sais download complete, but it doesnt play it.
[05:27] <P8ntKid> mebaran151: totem doesnt have sound for some reason.
[05:28] <cibao> has anyone had luck installing grub with an LVM root partition?
[05:28] <mebaran151> P8ntKid, did you install the codecs?
[05:28] <crimsun> mebaran151: yes, I crossreferencing something atm. Hold.
[05:28] <jdmpike> mrkoje, I added the NvAgp arg set to '3' and the UseEdidFreqs to false
[05:28] <crimsun> I'm^
[05:28] <_jason> P8ntKid, oh I thought you had said it was streaming ok but not playing ok locally.  Are you sure that this is not due to the file?  Have you tried different avi's from different sites?
[05:28] <P8ntKid> mebaran151: The sound codecs?
[05:28] <P8ntKid> _jason: Yes.
[05:28] <cibao> since lilo is giving me a funky error with the new kernel image, maybe grub can be a viable alternative?
[05:28] <Khaaaaan> OMG sound in Linux is the WORST
[05:28] <Ophiocus> !LADP
[05:28] <ubotu> Ophiocus: No idea
[05:28] <mebaran151> Khaaaaan, it's getting better
[05:28] <mebaran151> much better
[05:29] <jdmpike> you mean LDAP?
[05:29] <jdmpike> !LDAP
[05:29] <ubotu> jdmpike: I don't know
[05:29] <Khaaaaan> How do I make Enemy Territory use ALSA?
[05:29] <_jason> P8ntKid, have you installed all of the codecs in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies
[05:29] <AbdulSpiegel> HI
[05:29] <AbdulSpiegel> HOW DO I CHECK IF I AM UP TO DATE?
[05:29] <crimsun> Khaaaaan: you can't, but you can try wrapping it with aoss (install 'alsa-utils')
[05:30] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, caps lock off please :)
[05:30] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: capslock error. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:30] <AbdulSpiegel> ok sorry, also how do i get sound to work?
[05:30] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, what sound card?
[05:30] <Khaaaaan> crimsun: Are you serious?
[05:31] <AbdulSpiegel> ahh, not sure, it worked when i was using knoppix, then i installed ubuntu
[05:31] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: ahh, not sure, it worked when i was using knoppix, then i installed ubuntu
[05:31] <jj_> someone here can explain me how to install amsn???
[05:31] <spikebike> q/wind new
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !ams
[05:31] <ubotu> Hobbsee: What?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !amsn
[05:31] <ubotu> Hobbsee: What?
[05:31] <mustard5> jj_, sudo apt-get install amsn
[05:31] <Hobbsee> jj_: howto at ubuntuforums.org - i've seen one there before
[05:31] <crimsun> Khaaaaan: yes.
[05:31] <Khaaaaan> I think I have that installed.... how do I wrap it?
[05:31] <mrkoje> jj_: Get it out of the repository and it will install it self
[05:32] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, it would help to know what type of soundcard you are using.
[05:32] <P8ntKid> _jason: Im not on breezy.
[05:32] <crimsun> mebaran151: ''tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[05:32] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, have you used the pastebin before?
[05:32] <StarLight> .
[05:33] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: im affraid i cant say i have
[05:33] <mustard5> !tell AbdulSpiegel about pastebin
[05:33] <Khaaaaan> How do I wrap alsa with aoss?
[05:33] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, you get a PM from ubotu?
[05:33] <mebaran151> crimsun, Mixers:
[05:33] <mebaran151> 0: VIA Technologies VIA1617A
[05:33] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: yes i did
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> chicken chow mein!
[05:34] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: what do you want me to paste?
[05:34] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, try typing sudo lshw in terminal and paste the output in the pastebin...submit and then show me the unique URL it creates
[05:34] <mebaran151> Khaaaaan, start your program with aoss <proggy?
[05:34] <mebaran151> and it works
[05:34] <mebaran151> so aoss yourossprogram will run it through alsa
[05:34] <Khaaaaan> Wait, I dont get it
[05:35] <Khaaaaan> What do you mean start the program with aoss?
[05:35] <Khaaaaan> I am kind of new...
[05:35] <mebaran151> oh
[05:35] <mebaran151> well you know how you start a program technically
[05:35] <crimsun> mebaran151: which motherboard?
[05:35] <mebaran151> it's a Shuttle
[05:35] <crimsun> which?
[05:35] <Khaaaaan> Okay, so If I type into a terminal window... ET
[05:35] <Khaaaaan> Would I type aoss et or something?
[05:36] <mebaran151> Shuttle SN25P?
[05:36] <_jason> P8ntKid, install those codecs listed, I believe the name is the same from hoary
[05:36] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444539
[05:36] <mebaran151> yeah
[05:36] <pundai> hey mustard5
[05:36] <mebaran151> exactly
[05:36] <pundai> i figured it out
[05:36] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, thanks
[05:36] <pundai> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78904
[05:36] <mebaran151> aoss is just a simple script
[05:36] <pundai> if anyone asks you
[05:36] <Trashcan> natdigga.....clever.....
[05:36] <Khaaaaan> hmmm
[05:36] <mustard5> pundai, checking it now ;)
[05:36] <Khaaaaan> ok let me try it...
[05:36] <AbdulSpiegel> np
[05:36] <mebaran151> to preload an alsa library to intercept all the calls to sound and route them the good way
[05:36] <Khaaaaan> *crosses fingers*
[05:37] <n0dl> which java package do i dl?
[05:37] <zoombie> aja ahora
[05:37] <zoombie> edit
[05:37] <mebaran151> I would have bought a decent sound card if the box had a pci slot
[05:37] <Khaaaaan> command not found...
[05:37] <mebaran151> it's just so small and nice
[05:37] <zoombie> zoombie-
[05:37] <pundai> mebaran151, is that what your gf says
[05:37] <zoombie> q hagoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:37] <subbie> I have a question reguarding FSTAB.  i recently made an entry for a USB drive i just got.  the drive is formatted as fat32 (fdisk confirms this).  When i try to mount it though it says invalid FAT filesystem.
[05:38] <mebaran151> pundai, heh
[05:38] <n0dl> where do i download the java .deb package and whichone do i download?
[05:38] <crimsun> mebaran151: ok, located. Does sound work at all?
[05:38] <Khaaaaan> Do I have to install aoss??
[05:38] <mebaran151> crimsun, yeah
[05:38] <Khaaaaan> The alsa utilitu seems to be there....
[05:38] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: how is it look m8?
[05:38] <mebaran151> I got sound to work
[05:39] <mebaran151> I just don't have it dmix'ed
[05:39] <n0dl> does anyone know? i have firefox 1.5
[05:39] <P8ntKid> _jason: .avi files use divx right?
[05:39] <crimsun> mebaran151: ok, and you did _not_ create an /etc/asound.conf||~/.asoundrc, correct?
[05:39] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, hmmm...it looks like it doesnt know what your sound device is...I am assuming its the one with Crystal in it
[05:39] <Khaaaaan> ahhh there is an alsa-aoss package..
[05:39] <crsd> subbie: shouldn't it be vfat?
[05:39] <AbdulSpiegel> sure
[05:39] <crimsun> Khaaaaan: I said that about 8 minutes ago
[05:39] <mebaran151> crimsun, I created an asound.conf
[05:39] <mebaran151> but I've tried it without the asound.conf
[05:39] <mebaran151> and I get similar results
[05:39] <crimsun> mebaran151: mv it out of the way, and ~/.asoundrc, too
[05:39] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, probably a crystal onboard sound device?
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> ha ha
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> You did?
[05:40] <Amy> Can someone run `xclock -digital` and check whether it actually contains a time on it?  (I only see "20" on mine...)
[05:40] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: i honestly have no information about this comp, i got it from my bros work
[05:40] <Khaaaaan> This is a seperate package....
[05:40] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: most likely yes
[05:40] <mebaran151> crimsun
[05:40] <mebaran151> ok done
[05:40] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, k..I'll do a search on the forums to see it they have issues...one sec
[05:40] <crimsun> kafeine: yes, see at :29
[05:40] <crimsun> kafeine: sorry
[05:40] <mebaran151> do I get out the sledgehammer now....
[05:40] <crimsun> Khaaaaan: yes, see at :29
[05:40] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5, ok
[05:41] <crimsun> mebaran151: ok, ''aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' works, correct?
[05:41] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, could you do a lsmod command in terminal and paste that too please?
[05:41] <Khaaaaan> whoa...
[05:41] <Khaaaaan> it worked... but it sounds like crap
[05:42] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5, certainly
[05:42] <Khaaaaan> Do I have any other options?
[05:42] <mebaran151> crimsun, yeah
[05:42] <mebaran151> I just tested it with mplayer -ao alsa
[05:42] <P8ntKid> _jason: Those codecs arent in apt or something.
[05:42] <mebaran151> but two mplayer's won't play at the same time
[05:42] <mebaran151> one will always wait for the other to finish
[05:43] <ardchoille> lol @ sledgehammer
[05:43] <Khaaaaan> Is it popping and clicking because of the way I ran it?
[05:43] <mebaran151> Khaaaaan, you may have to work with an asound.conf
[05:43] <crimsun> mebaran151: ok. Now test concurrent instances with -ao alsa:device=plug:dmix
[05:43] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444542
[05:43] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, thanks
[05:44] <_jason> P8ntKid, Have you enabled the universe and multiverse repos?  is there a reason why you don't upgrade to breezy?
[05:44] <Khaaaaan> mebaran151, say wha? :)
[05:44] <mebaran151> crimsun, it complains it can't parse what you told me to put
[05:44] <P8ntKid> _jason: I havent really had time to upgrade. I plan on doing it sometime this week though.
[05:44] <AbdulSpiegel> no problemo
[05:45] <crimsun> mebaran151: then s/plug://g
[05:45] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, yeah..from what limited understanding I have it seems linux is not recognising it at all....
[05:45] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: that took a little longer than anticipated.
[05:45] <Fujitsu> I noticed.
[05:45] <mebaran151> crimsun
[05:45] <YukiIkyuta> I forgot.. someone's law of computing;
[05:45] <mebaran151> ok
[05:45] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, without knowing the brand of the sound device its hard to pinpoint how you might fix it
[05:45] <YukiIkyuta> ``It won't work.''
[05:45] <grayman> Amy, i see the same
[05:45] <mebaran151> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:812:(snd_pcm_direct_initialize_slave) requested or auto-format is not available
[05:45] <mebaran151> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:831:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to initialize slave
[05:45] <mebaran151> alsa-init: playback open error: Invalid argument
[05:46] <grayman> meh
[05:46] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, this could be relevant info from the lshw   ---   CS4236B
[05:46] <crimsun> excellent
[05:46] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5, damn
[05:46] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, I found a thread talking about this model
[05:46] <mebaran151> mplayer -ao alsa:device=dmix london\ symphony\ orchestra\ -\ super\ mario\ brothers\ theme.mp3
[05:46] <crimsun> mebaran151: what is your dmix stanza in the former /etc/asound.conf||~/.asoundrc?
[05:46] <Khaaaaan> Where can I find an asound.conf that works for me??
[05:46] <mebaran151> I like my marrio brothers themes :)
[05:46] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, this is the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869&highlight=crystal+sound
[05:46] <QMario> How do I paste images for people to see here?
[05:47] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, I would think your going to have to use google to look for people who have had the same issue....
[05:47] <P8ntKid> Anybody know the ubuntu hoary backport repo?
[05:48] <AbdulSpiegel> mustard5: thanks anyway for helping, im probaby not gonna attempt what the guy wrote, seems to advanced for me
[05:48] <AbdulSpiegel> im prob just live with it for now i quess
[05:48] <QMario> Is there a pastebin, that can be used to post images?
[05:48] <Madpilot> QMario: use imageshack or one of the free image hosting sites?
[05:49] <Khaaaaan> Darn it... I am gonna have to go back to Windows :(
[05:49] <AbdulSpiegel> Mac:)
[05:49] <mebaran151> crimsun, now when I reinstate my asound.conf
[05:49] <Khaaaaan> Games are just to hard to get working for me
[05:49] <mebaran151> I get no sound
[05:50] <mebaran151> here I will pm it
[05:50] <Rubin> !quicktime
[05:50] <ubotu> methinks quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[05:50] <mustard5> AbdulSpiegel, ok :)
[05:50] <foo-bar> hey - I'm having a problem with my wireless card - I have ndiswrapper set up, with the bcmwl5 drivers installed, and in the network configuration dialog I have wlan0 configured and activated, but I am unable to do anything on my network
[05:51] <coz> installed a program names "Kdirstat" to day. I think this is pretty good. Has anyone here used this app?
[05:51] <mebaran151> !dmix
[05:51] <ubotu> it has been said that dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:51] <levander> Am I supposed to configure Nero to recognize my DVD/RW, or is it supposed to auto-recognize it?
[05:51] <coz> I have nero and it auto recognized my dvd
[05:52] <levander> damn
[05:52] <coz> but there is a setting to choose your burner
[05:52] <levander> well, just looked, the problem seems to be I don't have the power cable plugged into the burner.
[05:52] <levander> gotta reboot
[05:52] <levander> coz: thanks for the tip
[05:53] <x0rrrrrrrz> hey
[05:53] <x0rrrrrrrz> how do i find my mac address on ubuntu
[05:53] <coz> Kdirstat is apparently like the Unix "du" has anyone used thie Kdirstat?
[05:53] <x0rrrrrrrz> ifconfig?
[05:53] <bob832> yep
[05:53] <x0rrrrrrrz> whats it under?
[05:54] <coz> terminal
[05:54] <x0rrrrrrrz> ya
[05:54] <bob832> terminal
[05:54] <x0rrrrrrrz> but where is the mac address
[05:54] <bob832> HWaddr
[05:54] <coz> just type ifconfig in the terminal
[05:54] <coz> like windows ip config
[05:54] <tritium> HWaddr
[05:54] <x0rrrrrrrz> oh
[05:54] <x0rrrrrrrz> found
[05:54] <x0rrrrrrrz> thank you
[05:54] <x0rrrrrrrz> top right, right?
[05:55] <bob832> if i remember correctly, yes
[05:55] <vanberge> does anybody use a virtual machine with ubuntu to boot other OS's in an emulated mode?
[05:55] <coz> hold on
[05:55] <mizarc> does wep encryption work out of the box in the network settings gnome panel?
[05:55] <coz> yeah the first one top right
[05:55] <x0rrrrrrrz> hoiw do i copy in terminal
[05:55] <Siph0n> right click, paste
[05:55] <coz> right click
[05:56] <x0rrrrrrrz> no hot key?
[05:56] <coz> short cut key doesn't work in terminal that Iknow of
[05:56] <_jason> x0rrrrrrrz, i think default is ctrl+alt+c but i've changed mine
[05:56] <x0rrrrrrrz> k
[05:56] <x0rrrrrrrz> thansk
[05:56] <coz> wish it did but this way fewer mistakes maybe
[05:56] <tritium> x0rrrrrrrz, are you using a gnome terminal?  In that case, it's Shift-Ctrl-C and -V to copy, paste
[05:57] <_jason> x0rrrrrrrz, go to edit -> keyboard shortcuts to see them all :D
[05:57] <coz> copy paste doens't wpork in gnome terminal in my experience
[05:57] <coz> only right click copy paste
[05:57] <tritium> it works, coz
[05:57] <coz> not in my gnome terminal!!
[05:58] <_jason> coz, it works but if you are going to use the mouse just select the text and then middle click!
[05:58] <ardchoille> CTRL+SHIFT+C works for copy, CTRL+SHIFT+V works for paste.. at least it does here (Ubuntu 5.10)
[05:58] <DonPachi> keyboard shortcuts + terminal = sweet!
[05:58] <coz> I have breezy 5..10 also does not work for me
[05:58] <foo-bar> anyone know how to set up a Broadcom wireless card (I have the drivers installed with ndiswrapper and wlan0 is detected by the network configuration tool, but I am unable to use the network, it seems)
[05:59] <szehne> foo-bar, i was just about to ask the same question
[05:59] <szehne> foo-bar, what laptop are you on?
[05:59] <foo-bar> a Compaq Presario2500
[05:59] <szehne> i'm on the 2700
[06:00] <unforcer> hey... my laptop is freezed up on installing ubuntu  82% installing Copying readahead... wont do nothing ?
[06:00] <szehne> i had it working until i rebooted w/o any wireless access points around. now the little light won't even come on
[06:00] <foo-bar> I have everything set up, and it's all detected, but I just cant do anything with my network.. I have to check if I have my SSID right and my WEP key right, although I'm pretty sure I do
[06:00] <unforcer> arghgh..
[06:00] <foo-bar> szehne, did you try a modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:01] <szehne> i'm doing that now
[06:01] <szehne> foo-bar, yeah, i'm running down the checklist right now
[06:01] <szehne> something's jacked up
[06:01] <unforcer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88536 similar to this but I am using ubuntu and its freezying up on copying readahead
[06:03] <vanberge> can wine run a  virtual machine?
[06:03] <unforcer> vanberge: use vmware
[06:03] <vanberge> unforcer, on ubuntu??
[06:03] <levander> Anybody know why I just started up nero, and even though I've only been using it for twenty minutes, it said "trial expired" and exited?
[06:03] <vanberge> unforcer, i dont really want to buy that.
[06:04] <unforcer> vanberge: the player is free
[06:04] <Madpilot> levander: if you're in Ubuntu, why are you messing with Nero?
[06:04] <unforcer> and you can make virtual machine with it or with the trial version
[06:04] <coz> Nero is good
[06:04] <YukiIkyuta> Presumably is burning it ..
[06:04] <levander> Madpilot: nothing I tried got dvd's to burn consistently under other tools
[06:04] <coz> it uses GEAR burning engine there are NONE better
[06:04] <levander> Madpilot: sick of it and doing it the easy way
[06:04] <foo-bar> hmm
[06:05] <foo-bar> does Ubuntu (or linux, for that matter) only support a certain bit hex key?
[06:05] <vanberge> unforcer, would the player require a windows intallation to already be present?
[06:05] <foo-bar> err, thats a question about WEP kets
[06:05] <foo-bar> *keys
[06:05] <SCMark> is there a way to make xchat automatically not show join/part messeges
[06:05] <YukiIkyuta> A certain bit hex key?
[06:05] <YukiIkyuta> How do you mean?
[06:06] <Corrupter> how do i start bittornado after i install it?
[06:06] <foo-bar> like, a 64 bit hexadecimal WEP key, or 128 bit, etc..
[06:06] <Madpilot> levander: DVDs I haven't tried to burn, so there might be a problem - you've filed bugs against the tools you've already tried?
[06:06] <YukiIkyuta> I believe it should support any.
[06:06] <coz> Should be in menu Corrupter if not you could install Debian menu
[06:06] <YukiIkyuta> I've used it in several (exotic) situations.
[06:06] <unforcer> vanberge: no...? it dosent require windows :D
[06:06] <levander> Madpilot: yes, they were ignored
[06:06] <coz> showd many apps that won't show up in menus
[06:06] <doleyb> Corrupter: click on a *.torrent
[06:07] <unforcer> vanberge: you need to install the hole system again
[06:07] <vanberge> unforcer,   well, what i mean is can the player allow me to create a virtual machine
[06:07] <tritium> whole, perhaps?
[06:08] <foo-bar> hmm, I can't figure out why my wireless interface isn't working.. I have the correct SSID and WEP key, and have configured wlan0 and activated it..
[06:08] <vanberge> foo-bar, netgear ?
[06:08] <unforcer> vanberge: yes but with some tricks("hacks") or I've read about it....
[06:08] <foo-bar> vanberge, card or router?  It's a Broadcom card
[06:08] <mizarc> foo-bar: where are you configuring your wep key?
[06:08] <vanberge> unforcer, my goal is to install/test drive other OS's on my laptop
[06:08] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, imagine, info is under /usr/share/info on Debian and Ubuntu :-)
[06:09] <vanberge> foo-bar, i was wondering about the card
[06:09] <vanberge> i had similar issues with my netgear
[06:09] <foo-bar> mizarc, In the dialog box for configuring wlan0
[06:09] <vanberge> foo-bar, are you using that wap psk or whatever its called ?
[06:09] <mizarc> did you try switching between 128bit and 64bit wep on your access point?
[06:09] <YukiIkyuta> agroker! that would do it! ^^
[06:09] <YukiIkyuta> Glad you found it.
[06:10] <unforcer> vanberge: http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000153064739/
[06:10] <foo-bar> no, I havent switched anything on the router yet.. I'll try 128 bit and others
[06:10] <agroker> YukiIkyuta, thanks
[06:10] <mizarc> i'm using 64bit wep on my router right now, about to test to see if 128bit will work or not
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> mizarc, if the 64 worked, then 128 will work
[06:11] <mizarc> foo-bar: and are you entering the hex string? or ascii?
[06:11] <mizarc> nomasteryoda: i'm thinking so, 128 was just a bunch of characters, and i probably mistyped something
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> typed?
[06:12] <SCMark> I've got an error when I boot saying that my computer cannot sync itself with the time server (something like ntp.ubuntulinux.com) .  How do I fix that?
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> why not copy to a memory stick and then copy to the dialog
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> that's my method
[06:12] <levander> When I try to burn a DVD with Nautilus, why write after hitting "burn" am I getting "invalidly encoded string"?
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> works perfectly every time
[06:12] <levander> Do I need to turn on long file name support in nautilus for DVD's somehow?
[06:12] <SCMark> aslo I never got a response to: is there a way to make xchat automatically not show join/part messeges
[06:13] <mizarc> nomasteryoda: well aren't you just mister highfalutin with your memory sticks and copy and pasting :)
[06:13] <foobar> heh, sorry about that - was playing with my router too much it seems :)
[06:14] <zcat[1] > anyone here got glx working with nvidia-legacy drivers?
[06:15] <zcat[1] > I am going nuts here. xorg log says the drivers are loaded, I get the nvidia logo, yada yada yada, but all the glx programs (glxdemo, etc) say there's no GLX
[06:16] <zcat[1] > Hey, progress!! Now it segfaults :)
[06:17] <rhoffa> after installing audacity the first time running it i got an error saying eeroor initializing i/0 layer
[06:18] <rhoffa> cant play or record audio, whats the remedy for this
[06:18] <zcat[1] > audacity likes to use the soundcard directly. kill esd or artsd
[06:18] <rhoffa> my soundcard is integrated
[06:18] <rhoffa> what do you mean kill esd or artsd?
[06:19] <Corrupter> whats a good bittorent program?
[06:19] <rhoffa> i want to clip a few songs and make them midis to send to my phone
[06:19] <vanberge> unforcer, tyvm
[06:19] <unforcer> vanberge: tvvm = ?
[06:19] <unforcer> :D
[06:19] <rhoffa> zcat[1]  - how can i fix it
[06:20] <zcat[1] > I should probably let someone else answer this; my solution was (is) to open a terminal and type 'killall artsd', then run audacity
[06:20] <Corrupter> whats a good bittorent program?
[06:20] <zcat[1] > If you use gnome you'd want to killall esd instead
[06:20] <rhoffa> what does that do though
[06:21] <levander> what's the command line to remove a package again?
[06:21] <rhoffa> what is esd
[06:21] <zcat[1] > It stops the soundserver so audacity can access the sound device directly like itwants to.
[06:21] <rhoffa> can i still play mp3s in rhythmbox?
[06:22] <zcat[1] > the soundserver will get started again next time any other program needs it..
[06:22] <rhoffa> ok thanks
[06:22] <zcat[1] > that's probably not the best solution though, just a 'works for me' solution :-)
[06:23] <doleyb> Corrupter: bittornado is good, but many peoploe like azureus
[06:26] <levander> Now that I'm trying to install gnomebaker, why the hell do I get the error message "The following packages cannot be authenticated!"?
[06:26] <levander> Is it okay to install them without verification?  I've never gotten that message before.
[06:28] <levander> Am I the only one in this room right now?  Never seen it this slow.
[06:28] <DonPachi> hey i'm here
[06:28] <DRAGON_Ultra> no
[06:28] <rhoffa> does anyone know how to export a selection as a .mid in audacity
[06:28] <DRAGON_Ultra> listen to music here
[06:28] <xoombot> > so after you guys all download porn and sit around in a sick ole mess within yourself, do you ever wonder, why in the world you are so addicted to the stuff more so than any other substance here on earth
[06:29] <xoombot> so you guys got issues
[06:29] <DonPachi> addicted to what stuff?
[06:29] <xoombot> porn
[06:29] <DRAGON_Ultra> lol
[06:29] <Scobee`> doar muie
[06:30] <xoombot> what no one responding
[06:30] <DonPachi> nah, addicted to porn i ain't. power and money maybe.
[06:30] <xoombot> right...
[06:30] <xoombot> the lesser of the three evile
[06:30] <xoombot> s
[06:31] <DonPachi> eh...haha.
[06:31] <mebaran151> crimsun, no dice
[06:31] <xoombot> chuckle chuckle
[06:31] <rhoffa> anyone know where the lame directory is?
[06:31] <xoombot> donpachi: where you from and what you do
[06:32] <xoombot> DonPachi:what
[06:32] <xoombot> DonPachi: Answers
[06:32] <xoombot> or just questions
[06:32] <xoombot> idle hands are the devils own
[06:32] <xoombot> ohhh
[06:32] <xoombot> snap
[06:32] <xoombot> son
[06:32] <tritium> xoombot, please stop
[06:32] <rhoffa> or how i can instal libmp3lame.so
[06:32] <rhoffa> ?
[06:32] <DonPachi> ~noise~
[06:33] <xoombot> funny
[06:33] <Pablo> o.O
[06:33] <Pablo> ack
[06:34] <rhoffa> anyone know where i can get libmp3lame.so to encode mp3?
[06:35] <rhoffa> i have the apt-get lame installed
[06:35] <mebaran151> crimsun, I fixed it
[06:36] <mebaran151> by adding back in my pcm.!default line!
[06:36] <luisito> how do I change the menu fonts?
[06:36] <frogzoo> anyone know where apt-get picks up its proxy settings pls?
[06:36] <zcat[1] > apt-get install liblame0
[06:36] <roostercogburn21> anybody know how to get sound working on ubuntu
[06:36] <crimsun> mebaran151: ok
[06:36] <djk_> rhoffa: the repos would be a good start...as for the directory, libmp3lame.so would be in /usr/lib/
[06:36] <crimsun> mebaran151: plug->plug
[06:36] <Sneaky_Bastard> rootster: I was sort of wondering that myself
[06:36] <frogzoo> !tell roostercogburn21 about sound
[06:36] <mebaran151> crimsun, yeah
[06:36] <Sneaky_Bastard> seeing as mine went kaflooie
[06:36] <frogzoo> !tell Sneaky_Bastard about sound
[06:36] <tritium> frogzoo, man apt.conf
[06:36] <mebaran151> so what do I report as the bug
[06:37] <crimsun> technically plug->dmix, but that's the same thing
[06:37] <roostercogburn21> i have been messing with it for days
[06:37] <frogzoo> thx tritium
[06:37] <luisito> how do I change the nautilus menu fonts?
[06:37] <crimsun> mebaran151: no need to file one, because it's an architectural issue
[06:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> ty frogster :D
[06:38] <Madpilot> luisito: you can change the system fonts at System menu - Prefs - Font -- I'm not sure you can specifically change one app's fonts in Gnome
[06:38] <roostercogburn21> i guess no one knows?
[06:38] <vanberge> has anybody installed the vmware player on ubuntu?  or is there a package for it somewhere ?
[06:38] <mebaran151> crimsun, oh?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> vmware 'player' ? :P
[06:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> froggy: the Wiki has some pages on it
[06:39] <crimsun> mebaran151: yeah
[06:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> oops
[06:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> rooster
[06:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> hang on
[06:39] <vanberge> Dr_Willis, yeah
[06:39] <roostercogburn21> k
[06:39] <tritium> vanberge, it's not free software
[06:39] <crimsun> mebaran151: ultimately a tool should handle it
[06:39] <djk_> morphix: how did it go?
[06:39] <mebaran151> like alsaconf?
[06:40] <vanberge> tritium, umm...  yes it is
[06:40] <luisito> Madpilot, but do I have to restart to apply the changes? 'cause I change the sytem fonst there and nothing happened
[06:40] <tritium> vanberge, vmware?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> vanberge,  'vmware' is a comrecial emulator  'thing' - not a 'player' - so what are you really talking about?
[06:40] <vanberge> omg...
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> 'thing' - how technical. :P
[06:40] <vanberge> vmware has a player software that is just for reading/playing virtual machines.
[06:40] <vanberge> it is free... i have the source code.   but i cant get it to compile correctly
[06:40] <mushroom> yep.good job
[06:41] <vanberge> i didnt know this either...  unforcer was helping me
[06:41] <mushroom> I am using vmware workstation 5.5
[06:41] <trinidad> HELP
[06:41] <vanberge> so, im just tyring to get vmware player installed on ubuntu
[06:42] <trinidad> how do i correctly setup my new dell 1905fp lcd on breezy?
[06:42] <mushroom> download from offical website~
[06:42] <trinidad> i have tried support through the ubuntu website community forum, but x still won't start
[06:42] <vanberge> mushroom, that just has rpm and windows vers...
[06:43] <vanberge> well, and tar.gz of source
[06:43] <roostercogburn21> sneeky_bastard thanks
[06:43] <mushroom> I use the tarball pkg to install
[06:43] <logical_mark> Hey guys. I am using alias with apache2 and I keep getting the phrase "Path error" displayed in my browser.
[06:43] <Sneaky_Bastard> roostercogburn21: Anything for a fan o' The Duke
[06:43] <roostercogburn21> hell yeah
[06:44] <Sneaky_Bastard> :D
[06:44] <vanberge> mushroom, it tells me i need to have a different gcc compiler
[06:44] <logical_mark> nevermind
[06:44] <unforcer> how can I install powernow-k8?
[06:44] <mebaran151> crimsun, so this tool would determine, based on a set of tests, what the best values for each of the boxes woudl be?
[06:45] <mushroom> yep,you need to get the same version with that's of your kernel-sources
[06:45] <crimsun> mebaran151: ideally, yes, which means ultimately -lib needs to deal with 32 bits properly
[06:45] <mebaran151> ah
[06:45] <mebaran151> 8 bits of saturation just isn't cutting it?
[06:45] <crimsun> (otherwise you'll grabbing stuff out of a huge lookup table)
[06:46] <vanberge> mushroom, thats what im trying to find on synaptic...
[06:46] <mushroom> apt-get install gcc-3.4
[06:46] <mushroom> ???
[06:46] <LexiCon> where is the /themes directory for gdm?
[06:46] <LexiCon> in breezy
[06:48] <vanberge> mushroom, i did that already...
[06:48] <vanberge> it still doesnt seem to like it
[06:48] <vanberge> do i have to remove 4 ?
[06:49] <WildPenguin> LexiCon, /usr/share/gdm/themes
[06:49] <mushroom> and I got the kernel-sources via apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:49] <mushroom> no
[06:50] <mushroom> no ,you need't
[06:50] <mushroom> what's your vmware's version code?
[06:50] <SpAwN> hell i just installed ubuntu and it never asked for a root password :/ now its fully installed
[06:50] <SpAwN> *hello
[06:50] <Hobbsee> !tell SpAwN about root
[06:51] <SpAwN> thanks :D
[06:51] <vanberge> mushroom... hold on one sec.  im goin to try install again
[06:51] <mushroom> okey,good luck
[06:53] <subbie> could somebody possibly help me with a USB hard drive.  i can format it with FDISk, but when i try to mount it i get an error saying its already mounted or busy, but when i type mount i can see that it is not mounted
[06:53] <logical_mark> Hey does anyone in here know of a good GUI for admining a mysql server?
[06:53] <cenopec> how do you copy a file with the browser into the file library
[06:53] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: MySQL Administrator
[06:54] <spikebike> it's called xterm ;-)
[06:54] <cenopec> do i have to do it in the terminal
[06:54] <YukiIkyuta> logical_mark: plus MySQL Query Browser, if you need to look at things carefully.
[06:54] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: I am using it now and it is crashing whenever I try and assign a user privlages to a db
[06:54] <Fujitsu> Odd.
[06:54] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: "it" is MySQL Admin
[06:55] <vanberge> mushroom, now i get a message that it cant find gcc  :-(
[06:55] <chris__> hey
[06:55] <chris__> anyone here?
[06:55] <SpAwN> one more quick question......ive had to do this b4 but forget the line i need......in the xorg conf.....it didnt set the horizontal and vertical refresh rates automaticly...theres not even a line with them in the xorg.conf what are the 2 lines i need to add...i have the right settings for them..just need the sytax
[06:55] <Fujitsu> chris__: Yes.
[06:55] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: I will try and assign db privs to a user and when I hit apply it says "Duplicate user name, please enter another name" that makes NO SENSE!
[06:56] <chris__> it would be nice if adult swim played neon genesis evangellian more that once a week
[06:56] <Fujitsu> Interesting
[06:56] <mushroom> oh~that's maybe not in your repository
[06:56] <SpAwN> and what section do i add them too?
[06:56] <vanberge> mushroom, it is....   gcc-3.4 installled ok.
[06:56] <vanberge> the installer says it cant find gcc
[06:56] <SpAwN> screen,monitor..?...im a little comfused
[06:57] <Fujitsu> vanberge: Try sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:57] <Fujitsu> That fixed gcc complaints for me.
[06:57] <vanberge> Fujitsu, well, i need a certain ver
[06:57] <Fujitsu> Do you?
[06:57] <vanberge> yeah, 3.4
[06:57] <cenopec> HELP
[06:57] <YukiIkyuta> gcc-3.4 package.
[06:57] <vanberge> right... i did that.
[06:58] <mushroom> stop install and run the vmware installer again
[06:58] <vanberge> apt-get install gcc-3.4
[06:58] <unforcer> hmm... why is my laptops cpu usage always 38% but programs usage is 2-5%
[06:58] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: I am going to download the newest version, could you tell me which link / file ext. to pick ? http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/administrator/1.1.html
[06:58] <cenopec> how do i copy a file into my file system
[06:58] <YukiIkyuta> cenopec: presumably, if the file is there, it's in your filesystem.
[06:58] <vanberge> mushroom, somethin is goofy.  i run gcc from command line and get 'not found'
[06:59] <Fujitsu> Will do, logical_mark...
[06:59] <mushroom> yep
[06:59] <vanberge> i need gcc package as well as gcc-3.4 ?
[06:59] <Fujitsu> The first one, I guess, logical_mark.
[06:59] <Fujitsu> vanberge: Yes!
[06:59] <mushroom> local your gcc path
[06:59] <agroker> how to eject CD-ROM under Gnome?
[07:00] <Fujitsu> gcc is actually the /usr/bin/gcc
[07:00] <Fujitsu> agroker: Right-click on it, eject.
[07:00] <subbie> could somebody help me psosibly with my USB harddrive that does not seem to want to mount.  it claims that the drive is busy or already mounted (it isn't already mounted, mount confirms this)
[07:00] <agroker> Fujitsu, thanks
[07:00] <Fujitsu> No problem, agroker.
[07:00] <agroker> goodnight everybody
[07:00] <Fujitsu> 'night.
[07:01] <mushroom> haha~I am here is day
[07:01] <Fujitsu> subbie: What device does it come up as, and where are you trying to mount it?
[07:02] <Fujitsu> And how are you trying to mount it, subbie?
[07:02] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: And the how do I install it? Just run it?
[07:02] <subbie> Fujitsu, it shows up as /dev/sda.  i tried both mounting it manually (mount -t reiserfs /dev/sda /mnt/usbdrivE) and i also tried making an FSTAB entry and doing mount -a
[07:02] <vanberge> mushroom, it worked!!!
[07:02] <subbie> i am able to do fdisk /dev/sda and see the drive and partition table.
[07:03] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: What is the extension?
[07:03] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[07:03] <mushroom> aha~congratulation
[07:03] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:03] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: Create a new directory, extract it into there, and tell me what the contents are like.
[07:03] <subbie> Fujitsu, i think i found the problem but i'm embarassed to say what it is =X
[07:03] <Fujitsu> subbie: What?
[07:03] <subbie> Fujitsu, i was trying to mount the device instead of the partition =X
[07:04] <vanberge> mushroom, now i just need some virtual machines :-(
[07:04] <subbie> should have been /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda
[07:04] <Fujitsu> subbie: Heh. We had a problem with a CD Burner in here earlier that was simply because it didn't have the power cord plugged in!
[07:04] <mushroom> vanberge,just install yourself
[07:04] <subbie> Fujitsu, hehe!  we'll im going to umount and remount, i tried creating a file on it so we'll see if it actually works now
[07:04] <vanberge> mushroom, the player cant create vm's.   only open them.
[07:04] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: It is a .tar.gz
[07:05] <vanberge> thats why it is free.
[07:05] <mushroom> vanberge,why not install the VMware workstation
[07:05] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: Yes, create a new folder, copy it to there, and extract it.
[07:05] <vanberge> mushroom, vmware workstation not free.
[07:05] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: And tell me what the contents are like.
[07:05] <vanberge> right?
[07:05] <_jason> if anyone uses BMP, I am trying to save a playlist but it says unknown filetype.  Do I have to do something special to get it to save?
[07:05] <Fujitsu> vanberge: Yes...
[07:06] <mushroom> you can get30days free~sn
[07:06] <subbie> Fujitsu, maybe though you could help me with something i'm not sure how to do.  I'd like to make it so that all users can read/write this mount point
[07:06] <Fujitsu> subbie: OK.
[07:06] <vanberge> i dont want 30 days...
[07:06] <SpAwN> hello im trying to install ndiswrapper on my unbutu...i have the latest one in a tar.gz on the computer....but i cant use make?
[07:06] <vanberge> theres a hack for the player that unforcer showed me
[07:06] <mushroom> just install it's enghou
[07:06] <Fujitsu> subbie, you need to add 'o users' to the command, or add the users option to the fstab line.
[07:06] <vanberge> SpAwN, dont do tar.gz
[07:06] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: Three folders inside, "bin", "doc", and "share", and two files, "copying", and "FAQ"
[07:06] <SpAwN> btw that computer doesnt have a internet connection atm
[07:06] <vanberge> SpAwN, use apt / synaptic
[07:07] <SpAwN> well is it on the dvd?
[07:07] <vanberge> hmm... i dont remember
[07:07] <SpAwN> cuz that computer only uses wireless
[07:07] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: You could look at the FAQ, and I think it should be extracted to /usr, but read the FAQ.
[07:07] <SpAwN> how could i use the tar.gz untill i get it online?
[07:07] <vanberge> SpAwN, you cant plug it in manually for a bit ?
[07:08] <subbie> Fujitsu, i did that, umounted and remounted but when i try to create a file i still get permission denied
[07:08] <vanberge> SpAwN, well, most likely you will not have the compiler tools you need to make the source.
[07:08] <vanberge> if you just did fresh install
[07:08] <SpAwN> yea
[07:08] <SpAwN> well
[07:08] <Fujitsu> subbie: Remember that it will respect ReiserFS permissions!
[07:08] <SpAwN> ill get the cable...its a pian but ill do it :D
[07:08] <subbie> Fujitsu, here is the fstab entry i made /dev/sda1       /mnt/usbdrive   reiserfs        users,owner,notail      0
[07:08] <subbie> 0
[07:08] <Fujitsu> What does the owner option do?
[07:08] <subbie> Fujitsu, i'm not sure i follow =-\
[07:09] <vanberge> SpAwN, yeah, then just type 'sudo apt get install ndiswrapper'
[07:09] <vanberge> apt get = apt-get
[07:09] <Fujitsu> subbie: Where were you trying to create the file?
[07:09] <cenopec> how do you copy files to the file system, i know the command but i get and error that i need access privliges
[07:09] <subbie> Fujitsu, i just CD'd into the directory and did touch pop.txt
[07:09] <frogzoo> where can I get additional themes for gnome, pls?
[07:09] <cenopec> how do i get access priv
[07:09] <Fujitsu> The directory where you mounted the partition?
[07:09] <subbie> Fujitsu, yes
[07:09] <SpAwN> vanberge: thanks
[07:10] <Fujitsu> subbie: Check the permissions on the directory.
[07:10] <subbie> Fujitsu, the owner command just makes it so that the person who mounted it is the only one that can unmount it (or at least thats what i believe it does!)
[07:10] <Fujitsu> subbie: Yes, I thought so too. Good.
[07:11] <mushroom> sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras
[07:11] <cenopec> SOME ONE PLEASE HELP
[07:11] <SpAwN> hmm sudo ifconfig eth0 didnt bring it up?
[07:11] <SpAwN> any ideas
[07:11] <vanberge> SpAwN, do you know how to use ndiswrapper ?
[07:11] <Fujitsu> cenopec: You will need to prefix the command with sudo, so it becomes 'sudo <command>'
[07:11] <mushroom> frogzoo?
[07:11] <vanberge> SpAwN, sudo ifup eth0
[07:11] <SpAwN> ahh
[07:11] <cenopec> fujitsu: k thanks i will try it
[07:11] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:12] <subbie> Fujitsu, changing the permissions on the directory fixed it :)
[07:12] <SpAwN> ignoring unknown interface
[07:12] <mushroom> Fujitsu is a good guy
[07:12] <SpAwN> hmm
[07:12] <Fujitsu> subbie: Good.
[07:12] <Fujitsu> mushroom: Thankyou.
[07:12] <Fujitsu> Another satisfied customer!
[07:12] <subbie> Fujitsu, thank you much!
[07:13] <Fujitsu> subbie: Hey, I have 2 1/2 months until I next have school. What else am I meant to do?
[07:13] <Xenguy> a good guy now; and for how long?
[07:13] <Fujitsu> hehehe
[07:13] <SpAwN> how can i set up eth0
[07:13] <subbie> Fujitsu, sleep!
[07:13] <subbie> Fujitsu, or do what i just did and setup a mythtv box!!
[07:13] <Fujitsu> Well, I am going to look through the logs of the channel tonight, and attempt to write up documents describing how to do some of the common questions...
[07:13] <SpAwN> ohh no i have no sound also
[07:13] <SpAwN> :/
[07:14] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:14] <cenopec> what functions does myth tv have
[07:14] <Fujitsu> One such question is how to mount an NTFS partition. That comes up at least once every day.
[07:14] <mt_holden_ss> how do u add another user, and be able to access my other xp partition
[07:14] <BotBuilder> taking a picture of a black screen is surprisingly hard
[07:14] <WhyteShadow> what is the package that installs a ton of stuff including gcc.. i thought it was like essentials or soomething
[07:14] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Easy.
[07:14] <Xenguy> !u
[07:14] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[07:14] <mushroom> FUjitsu:do you have a blog?
[07:14] <Fujitsu> mushroom: Not at this point in time.
[07:14] <Trashcan> lol @ !u
[07:14] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: System->Administration->Users and Groups...
[07:14] <subbie> cenopec, you can record television shows to your harddrive and awtch them later, or you could use it just to watch tv (allthough mplayer does that just fine with a card that does mpeg2)_
[07:14] <ale3hs> does anyone use Anjuta IDE ..?? I got a sily question??
[07:15] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: the Ubuntu wiki could always do with some more attention
[07:15] <mushroom> oh~why not write a blog~to share your exp?
[07:15] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Does your current user have permissions to access it?
[07:15] <subbie> WhyteShadow, build-essentials
[07:15] <WhyteShadow> what does Anjuta ide used for what languagae?
[07:15] <WhyteShadow> subbie, thats it thanks so much
[07:15] <mushroom> c/c++?
[07:15] <subbie> WhyteShadow, :)
[07:15] <Fujitsu> Madpilot: I have noticed. I am planning to fix it at some point...
[07:15] <mt_holden_ss> how would give permission to it
[07:15] <ale3hs> WhyteShadow,  u got anjuta?
[07:15] <SpAwN> can anyone help me get eth0 connected?
[07:15] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Can you access the partition at the moment?
[07:15] <Fujitsu> SpAwN: What is wrong?
[07:16] <WhyteShadow> no i dont, ive neve rheard of it thats what i was asking.. what does it code in
[07:16] <mt_holden_ss> when i double click it, it says it dont have permissipn
[07:16] <mt_holden_ss> permission*
[07:16] <mt_holden_ss> i can access it if i boot up xp
[07:16] <SpAwN> well its not set up or somthing...i plugged in the cable and nothing
[07:16] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: OK.
[07:16] <WhyteShadow> i need to get more into programming, but i cant find anything to keep me occupied to keep working on
[07:16] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: I have done this a couple of times today ^_^
[07:16] <mt_holden_ss> its just gunna be annoyin if i want to get a file from my other partition and have to boot up xp
[07:16] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: please feel free to join the Ubuntu DocTeam, too
[07:16] <SpAwN> sudo ifup eth0 didnt work either
[07:16] <subbie> WhyteShadow, write your own file transer client, its not exciting but you'll learn a lot
[07:16] <Fujitsu> holden: It can be done
[07:16] <SpAwN> said it was a unknown interface
[07:16] <mt_holden_ss> can u tell me how then?
[07:17] <Fujitsu> How did you set it up, mt_holden_ss?
[07:17] <mt_holden_ss> i think my xp partition is ntsf
[07:17] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea? see ive been through tutorials of different lagnuages.. boring as heck to me.. i want to jump in and learn each piece as i go, as i need it
[07:17] <ale3hs> how do I register my nick in freenode??
[07:17] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:17] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: What tool did you use to set it up? Just the installer?
[07:17] <mt_holden_ss> yep
[07:17] <subbie> WhyteShadow, if you are really new to programming you should remeber baby steps are important
[07:17] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:17] <mt_holden_ss> i used the installer
[07:17] <BotBuilder> whyte - learn one lang
[07:17] <BotBuilder> and the others come easy
[07:18] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: It should work, but maybe not. Open up a terminal.
[07:18] <mt_holden_ss> i installed xp then ubuntu
[07:18] <kriiiile> anyone got time to help a new to ubuntu user with some prolly easy questions
[07:18] <WhyteShadow> subbie, well im not new new.. i know what a variable and an array are
[07:18] <Fujitsu> kriiiile: Maybe in a minute... Wait a sec.
[07:18] <crimsun> kriiiile: shoot
[07:18] <Xenguy> kriiiile: ask
[07:18] <subbie> WhyteShadow, hehe , thats new enough :)
[07:18] <WhyteShadow> and ive programed a bit in java before, wasnt my favorite language
[07:18] <Madpilot> kriiiile: just ask, someone can problably help
[07:18] <WhyteShadow> subbie, hehe yea
[07:18] <subbie> WhyteShadow, find something small that interests you, maybe write your own ASCII based game or something
[07:18] <BotBuilder> lol yeah, java kind of sux
[07:18] <BotBuilder> I'd recommend C#
[07:18] <subbie> WhyteShadow, try to find something thats not to difficult but interesting to you
[07:18] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Have you opened a terminal?
[07:19] <WhyteShadow> subbie, i did write a small number guessing game in C
[07:19] <BotBuilder> Althouhg personally i'm a boo fan, C# is cool
[07:19] <mt_holden_ss> trying to find it
[07:19] <ale3hs> guys please somebody help me with adjuta, I have pissed of !!
[07:19] <subbie> i personally love programming in Java
[07:19] <ale3hs> anjuta
[07:19] <Xenguy> bye
[07:19] <kriiiile> well 1 off im trying to get accsess to a hard drive i pluged in so i shared it but accsess is not granted accept from management mode
[07:19] <subbie> but mostly i deal with C/ASM
[07:19] <BotBuilder> subbie - eh, i dont like some of the limitations
[07:19] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss:  Application->Accessories->Terminal
[07:19] <BotBuilder> ah
[07:19] <Fujitsu> subbie: ASM is good.
[07:19] <crimsun> kriiiile: from Windows XP?
[07:19] <BotBuilder> well if that's what you're used to then java would be cool yes
[07:19] <mt_holden_ss> ok terminal up
[07:19] <subbie> Fujitsu, hehe, sometimes i get frustrated having to write 8 pages of code to do something that seems simple :)
[07:19] <kriiiile> no just as regular login in ubuntu
[07:19] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: type 'sudo vim /etc/fstab'
[07:20] <Fujitsu> WIthout the quotes
[07:20] <WhyteShadow> subbie, what do you code in?
[07:20] <Fujitsu> subbie: True, but it is fast..
[07:20] <Xenguy> kriiiile: huh
[07:20] <kriiiile> if i use system / admin i can acses disk
[07:20] <n0dl> is their a cli app for aim?
[07:20] <mt_holden_ss> ok done
[07:20] <kriiiile> not from any other place
[07:20] <subbie> WhyteShadow, generall C and ASM, but only because i have to :).  i really do enjoy programming in Java
[07:20] <mt_holden_ss> i entered in my pass
[07:20] <crimsun> kriiiile: I meant what origin is the drive, as in did you use it originally in Windows XP?
[07:20] <Hobbsee> n0dl: gaim?
[07:20] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea? why do you like java so much?
[07:20] <vanberge> mushroom, thanks for your help.  im booting a vm now.
[07:20] <Hobbsee> oh, sorry
[07:20] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Can you find the line for the partition?
[07:20] <mt_holden_ss> yep
[07:20] <vanberge> mushroom, now i just have to hack it :-)
[07:20] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: What does it say?
[07:20] <kriiiile> yes it was used in a window 2000 b4 with movies etc on
[07:21] <mt_holden_ss> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[07:21] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:21] <subbie> WhyteShadow, i'm not sure really.  I like the syntax of the language and how they have libraries for every data structure i use often
[07:21] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Easy to fix!
[07:21] <crimsun> kriiiile: then you need to mount the partition with 'umask=022'
[07:21] <mushroom> well done .
[07:21] <mt_holden_ss> yay, im glad to her
[07:21] <mt_holden_ss> now how?
[07:21] <subbie> WhyteShadow, that's like asking me why i like french fries :)
[07:21] <n0dl> hobbsee: i mean in cli (command line... no x(
[07:21] <crimsun> kriiiile: for instance, in the /etc/fstab file, I have "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    umask=022,nls=utf8  0       0"
[07:21] <WhyteShadow> subbie, i see, ive playd with python a bit and kinda like it.. i still keep swaying between languages.. my biggest issue is i have so much i want to do.. and have to do
[07:21] <Hobbsee> n0dl: yeah, sorry, i realised that after i hit enter....
[07:22] <n0dl> Hobbsee, its ok
[07:22] <mt_holden_ss> fujitsu do u want to start a new channel so its easier to communicate
[07:22] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Move to where it says defaults, press i, and enter users and umask=0222 in addition to the defaults, seperated by commas.
[07:22] <subbie> WhyteShadow, python was very very weird to me at first, but its actually rather nice when you get used to it
[07:22] <SpAwN> crap i got eth0 up but now when i use "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" its says there is no package
[07:22] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Almost done!
[07:22] <subbie> WhyteShadow, like i said, i'd suggest taking baby steps.  Perl or python would be fine for you to learn with
[07:22] <crimsun> kriiiile: you will need to add 'umask=022' to the fourth column from the left edge under the "<options>" column
[07:22] <kriiiile> crimsun, can i type that in patch in gnome mode ?
[07:22] <BotBuilder> WhyteShadow: yeah, python's cool
[07:22] <subbie> WhyteShadow, personally i think java is an excellent learning language too, but not everybody agrees.
[07:22] <BotBuilder> I don't like dynamic typing but hey
[07:23] <BotBuilder> oh yeah java is a cool learning language
[07:23] <subbie> the only thing to keep in mind with python is that most other languages are NOT white space sensative
[07:23] <crimsun> kriiiile: you can open Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[07:23] <WhyteShadow> subbie, i thought about php as well, but one thing i loved about python was i could test little scripts right then and there
[07:23] <Fujitsu> Java is OK for learning.
[07:23] <Fujitsu> But not for anything else.
[07:23] <BotBuilder> fujitsu - i agree
[07:23] <BotBuilder> well
[07:23] <szehne> SpAwN, go into synaptic, and search for ndiswrapper-utils
[07:23] <SpAwN> do i need to set up apt-get like urpmi ...like set sources and stuff?
[07:23] <subbie> WhyteShadow, you can actually use command line php.  but learning with PHP would be fine too!  really it doesn't matter that much as long as youipck one and stick to it
[07:23] <SpAwN> k
[07:23] <BotBuilder> yeah
[07:23] <Fujitsu> SpAwN: The installer will have done that.
[07:23] <crimsun> kriiiile: then type: ''gksudo gedit /etc/fstab''
[07:23] <BotBuilder> A version of basic would work too
[07:23] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea i tend to have that issue as well, keep geetting distracteed and reading to much anti language this and that
[07:23] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: How are you going?
[07:24] <vanberge> Fujitsu, he just installed.  he probably needs to add repos
[07:24] <szehne> SpAwN, if nothing comes up, go to repositories menu, and add a "universe" repository if there isn't one already
[07:24] <mt_holden_ss> i cant delete the word defaults
[07:24] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:24] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Just leave it.
[07:24] <BotBuilder> ;p
[07:24] <subbie> WhyteShadow, no matter WHAT language you choose to program/script in, there will always be somebody that doesn't like it.. pick one and stick to it.. any of the ones you or bot or me mentionted is fine.
[07:24] <mt_holden_ss> wat
[07:24] <BotBuilder> look up, click link
[07:24] <BotBuilder> Figure out solution!
[07:24] <Madpilot> !tell SpAwN about repos
[07:24] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Change it to 'default,users,umask=0222'
[07:25] <SpAwN> nice
[07:25] <SpAwN> i got it
[07:25] <mt_holden_ss> rrr it wont let me past it
[07:25] <phu> what's wrong with learning C?
[07:25] <WhyteShadow> subbie, well the reason i was thinking php was to have a website to promote my comic i try to do.. thast another hobbie of mine.. and i dunno its hard to find time to fit it all
[07:25] <szehne> SpAwn, have you got it from here, or do you need help?
[07:25] <BotBuilder> yeah, WhyteShadow, I'd pick a mainstream language and then once you're proficient you can move to what you like best
[07:25] <crimsun> phu: there's nothing wrong with learning any language
[07:25] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: What do you mean?
[07:25] <phu> I've learned so many languages, and C is still my favorite.
[07:25] <mt_holden_ss> fukitsu is ther a way that u can start a new channel
[07:25] <Nelo> Hello, how do i keep the terminal window size permanently?
[07:25] <szehne> SpAwn, oh! and if you want super easy install, get ndisgtk
[07:25] <mt_holden_ss> or is ther a web site explainin all this?
[07:26] <BotBuilder> Blasphemy!
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> subbie. yea your right , i just wish i could stop all the interan termoiland pick one.. and acutally find a project
[07:26] <subbie> WhyteShadow, its an excellent idea to pick PHP if you want to code something in it that you will actually use!  that will keep you motivated to continue learning! since it is something you plan on using
[07:26] <BotBuilder> mt_holden_ss: just join whatever channel you wnat to create
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> to devote time to
[07:26] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Which channel?
[07:26] <BotBuilder> like /join #foobarloo
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> subbie, see thats just it.. i want to do stuff that people or myself can use and stuff
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> with artwork or setting up networks or servers or something i have no problems
[07:26] <mt_holden_ss> join #partition
[07:27] <WhyteShadow> thinking of ideas
[07:27] <subbie> WhyteShadow, like BotBuilder said, once you have a good understand of programming the language is pretty irrelevant, you just learn the little quirks.  its most important to learn what data structures are available and when to use them.  also commonly used algorithms
[07:27] <srv4nt> which would you all recommend... php or ruby on rails
[07:27] <WhyteShadow> ahh, ok
[07:27] <srv4nt> i cant make up my mind
[07:27] <WhyteShadow> ive also heard of ruby, and it seems kinda neat too
[07:27] <Fujitsu> php.
[07:27] <crimsun> srv4nt: evaluate both
[07:27] <BotBuilder> srv4nt - I'd learn ruby on rails as i've heard it kicks ass
[07:28] <BotBuilder> although php is more common
[07:28] <BotBuilder> I don't  know either ;p
[07:28] <srv4nt> my hope is to start with ruby, and move on to php afterwards
[07:28] <srv4nt> but that way i may end up just learning ruby
[07:28] <subbie> php is excellent and so is the documentation, you can't reallly go WRONG with it.
[07:28] <WhyteShadow> hmm
[07:28] <devint> Can I make animated gif's with GIMP?
[07:28] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: Whats the command to restart mysql-server?
[07:28] <kriiiile> crimsun, check pm if u have time
[07:28] <WhyteShadow> breezy kicks ass
[07:28] <Fujitsu> /etc/init.d/mysql restart, I think.
[07:28] <crimsun> logical_mark: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
[07:28] <BotBuilder> yeah, php might be the safest, ruby on rails the most rewarding
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> Linux ibook 2.6.12-9-powerpc #1 Mon Oct 10 15:26:45 BST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[07:29] <subbie> WhyteShadow, jealousy, you have a powerbook or what?
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> ibook g3 clamshell acutally
[07:29] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:29] <crimsun> WhyteShadow: you should update to the security errata kernel
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> i also have an ibook g4 downstairs, as well as another clamshell
[07:29] <BotBuilder> Do i really have to keep spamming this link?
[07:29] <subbie> ahh, i have an ibook g4, but last time i checked my extrem wireless wasn't supported :-\
[07:29] <khan> hi everyone
[07:29] <szehne> any body know about switching the bash prompt in terminal everytime it starts up? i'm tired of running "export PS1..."
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> yea its not yet
[07:29] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: What does it mean if MySQLCC is reporting "[localhost]  ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)"
[07:29] <LinuxKnight> hola
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> still reverse engineering it all
[07:30] <LinuxKnight> powerbooks with ubuntu? you guys got it working well?
[07:30] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: Probably means that it isn't running.
[07:30] <crimsun> kriiiile: you're not identified, so I don't receive any privmsgs from you.
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> crimsumk, why the errata kernel? i just got breezy installed yesterday
[07:30] <LinuxKnight> i have a g3 pb
[07:30] <crimsun> WhyteShadow: fixes several security issues
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> i also have a pb 1400/166, works well
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> ahh
[07:30] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: Well my php is connecting to it and so is MySQL-Admin
[07:30] <crimsun> kriiiile: /msg nickserv help identify
[07:30] <Fujitsu> Odd.
[07:30] <subbie> last i checked ubuntu worked fine with an airport card, but not with an airport extreme.  other than that ubuntu ran fine on my ibook g4
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> im using the automatic update thing on breezy for it i think
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> works nice
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> subbie, im on a regular airport card now
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> im laying on my bed
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> with the lappie
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> my cats asleep next to me
[07:31] <subbie> yeah, i have airport extreme though, and supposedly its still not supported :(
[07:31] <LinuxKnight> automatix yes i ran it on my breezy install on my centrino laptop worked well :D
[07:31] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea not yet.. soon i think though] 
[07:31] <LinuxKnight> my pb still running el tigre
[07:31] <BotBuilder> Ok, I figure I'll doa forum post then
[07:31] <WhyteShadow> tiger is nice too, i need to put breezy on my main pc boxen
[07:31] <BotBuilder> for:
[07:31] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Well, I am sitting in front of a desk, with a pathetic PIII 866MHz desktop, at 31 degress Celsius
[07:31] <LinuxKnight> i don't have airport on that tho, have an assortment of other pcmcia cards
[07:31] <subbie> my IB is running 10.3.9 until airport extreme works :)
[07:31] <SpAwN> hmm i dont get it...the same driver i used on my other linux computer with ndiswrapper says it doesnt work :/
[07:32] <WhyteShadow> i also need to setup ipcop as my router.. but need a wireless nic for it
[07:32] <cyphase> hey everyone
[07:32] <LinuxKnight> ubuntu worked with my "centrino" laptop out of the box, but fedora needed manual installation of the prism54 drivers
[07:32] <LinuxKnight> heh
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> fedora blows in my opinion
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> as well as many rpm distros ive used
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> rpms are terrible i think
[07:33] <LinuxKnight> i used to tinker with debian, apt-get rocks... but some other parts of it were eehhh
[07:33] <szehne> anyone know about terminal customization?
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> i had nothing but dependency hell with them
[07:33] <LinuxKnight> but ubuntu is the best of both worlds
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> apt is awesome
[07:33] <subbie> its not so much the actual RPM packaging thats the problem, its the dependency hell
[07:33] <LinuxKnight> apt rocks my world :D
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> well yea.. thats why i hated rpms.. only a few worked without depency hell
[07:34] <Juhaz> usually it's clueless users who go around installing packages MEANT FOR OTHER DISTROS, then turn around blaming rpm
[07:34] <subbie> i thought i read that they wre trying to have fedora use YUM ?
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> fedora got better, yum was cool but still not as ... refined? as apt
[07:34] <subbie> YUM is better than no YUM :)
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> yeah yum is getting there
[07:34] <WhyteShadow> mmm food
[07:34] <WhyteShadow> yum yum
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> better than nothing
[07:34] <subbie> the problem with redhat is that they just dont really have an up to date repository for users to install packages from
[07:34] <WhyteShadow> i just guess im biased towwards apt and bsd's ports and portage
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> they leave that to fedora
[07:34] <subbie> thats why gentoo and debian based distros are so great.
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> which is sometimes not always stable
[07:35] <WhyteShadow> i mean how easy is it to open a terminal and install what you need
[07:35] <subbie> nice big repository that settles dependencies for you :)
[07:35] <LinuxKnight> fedora is kinda bleeding edge
[07:35] <WhyteShadow> i was using debian sid.. but i borked it pretty bad being careless so i went to ubuntu
[07:35] <LinuxKnight> with ubuntu just fire up synaptic or an xterm
[07:35] <cyphase> just upgraded to X-Chat 2.6.0 from backports
[07:35] <WhyteShadow> i see a lot of debian zealots bashing ubuntu and so forth, its funny to listen to them
[07:35] <subbie> i prefer ubuntu =X
[07:36] <LinuxKnight> yea some debian ppl can be rather elitist and purist
[07:36] <subbie> i actually prefer gentoo but i got tired of all the waiting, teehee
[07:36] <LinuxKnight> ubuntu is still debian, but with some extra shmear on the bagel :D
[07:36] <WhyteShadow> i despise the elitist quality and at the same time adore it
[07:36] <subbie> plus i had a HELL of a time getting the chipset that came with this shuttle computer working. ubunut did it all for me "out of the box"
[07:36] <Sneaky_Bastard> at least we don't have debian and ubuntu zealots suicide-bombing each other
[07:36] <Fujitsu> Yes. Good thing.
[07:36] <Sneaky_Bastard> (at least not that I am aware of)
[07:36] <LinuxKnight> gentoo is fun to do if you have a server farm to compile stuff... but waiting for it on your only desktop can get old ;D
[07:36] <Fujitsu> Heheheh
[07:37] <subbie> i absolutley love having gentoo on my desktop that i use all the time though but for my MythTV and my laptop, its ubuntu :)
[07:37] <drumline> I just installed a program and it started configuring apache1 instead of apache2... Should I have it redo the whole install after removing apache1 ?
[07:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> "Debian uber alles!" .... "Ubunto Akbar!"
[07:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> BOOM!
[07:37] <subbie> drumline, i actually had a simliar problem.
[07:37] <arnducky> ALLAH AKHBAR -- THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD,  and TUX IS RASUL ALLAH (the apostle of G-d)!
[07:37] <subbie> drumline, i ended up just reinstalling the application but, i'm sure you could fiddle and get it to work if you wanted
[07:38] <mister_roboto> subbie: do you have suspend and hibernate working on your laptop?
[07:38] <drumline> subbie: i'll tell you what I find out :)
[07:38] <WhyteShadow> god.. my cat takes up the entire right side of my bed
[07:38] <subbie> mister_roboto, no sir, but i haven't looked into it
[07:38] <cenopec> ahaha is there an undo command in terminal
[07:38] <subbie> drumline,  :)
[07:38] <jrattner1> mister_roboto, i have problems resuming from hibernate
[07:38] <WhyteShadow> hehe i get to do m sr projecty for my bachelors on mythtv
[07:38] <mister_roboto> jrattner1: same here.  garbage on screen and lockup
[07:39] <subbie> ok well its past my bedtime, goodnight folks and goodluck with what ails you :)
[07:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> go ahead, make my day
[07:39] <jrattner1> mister_roboto, i diabled most ACPI functions on my laptop i find it works better
[07:39] <WhyteShadow> you too subbie take care
[07:39] <Fujitsu> See you subbie!
[07:39] <mister_roboto> jarattner: resume from suspend actually seems to work but the screen doesn't turn on!   i can hear the disk when i do "ls" and stuff :)
[07:39] <mister_roboto> jrattner1: yes but it's a PITA to have to start from a reboot every time. I'd really REALLY like suspend working, or at least hibernate
[07:40] <mt_holden_ss> mp3 support anyone
[07:40] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[07:40] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is for codecs,  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[07:40] <Drakeson> has anybody got any success connecting to an mms:// stream with mplayer through UDP?
[07:41] <Sneaky_Bastard> titanium requires oxy-hydrogen flame and good oxygen environment to ignite
[07:41] <Fujitsu> !tell mt_holden_ss about mp3
[07:41] <Sneaky_Bastard> your scimitar won't do it
[07:41] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, ahhh, but I have a /dev/laser
[07:42] <dosage> hello
[07:42] <dosage> i'm new to ubuntu
[07:42] <Sneaky_Bastard> titanium, well polised makes a great mirror, too
[07:42] <dosage> but i love it.
[07:42] <Sneaky_Bastard> polished
[07:42] <YukiIkyuta> dosage: a good start!
[07:42] <arnducky> dd if /dev/laser of /home/Sneaky_bastard
[07:42] <YukiIkyuta> if=/dev/laser you mean
[07:42] <YukiIkyuta> xP
[07:43] <arnducky> input file, yep
[07:43] <mt_holden_ss> anyone know how to make firefox my default explorer
[07:43] <YukiIkyuta> (with the equals, that is)
[07:45] <YukiIkyuta> mt_holden_ss:  that's a very vague question; how do you mean?
[07:45] <mt_holden_ss> dont worry
[07:45] <mt_holden_ss> i fixed it
[07:45] <YukiIkyuta> Good..
[07:45] <arnducky> mt_holden_ss, your default web browser, you mean?  (Internet) Explorer is the name of  a particular HTML browser program that a certain proprietary-infidel operating system devoloper/shaitanic  software vendor (SSV) ripped off from NCSA Mosaic.
[07:46] <mt_holden_ss> fire fox
[07:46] <mt_holden_ss> i wanted fire fox as my default but fixed it
[07:46] <Sneaky_Bastard> Internet Exploder, ah ys.
[07:46] <musik> HELP! HELP!
[07:46] <Sneaky_Bastard> arnducky: do you know the rest of that story ?
[07:46] <musik> im not able to boot into windows!
[07:46] <YukiIkyuta> musik: run to the fire brigade!
[07:46] <Xenguy> musik: die
[07:46] <YukiIkyuta> How so?
[07:46] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, may St. Linus of .FI forfend!
[07:46] <YukiIkyuta> Xenguy: don't talk like that.
[07:47] <Madpilot> musik: congratulations
[07:47] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: hmm?
[07:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> vendor contracted with micro$haft to do the job for "a percentage of the sales price of each copy of Explorer"
[07:47] <SpAwN> sweet i got my wireless up :D
[07:47] <mt_holden_ss> musik join #partition
[07:47] <YukiIkyuta> Xenguy: don't just tell them to die!
[07:47] <Fujitsu> SpAwN: Good!
[07:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> Micro$haft then bundled it *for free* with Win-Blows 98
[07:47] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: oh
[07:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> the sales price being USD $0, the vendor got shafted
[07:47] <SpAwN> yea thats a start for tonight
[07:47] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, Winblows 95 USB, wasn't it?
[07:47] <SpAwN> now i just need my sound
[07:47] <musik> i reinstalled win98, then reinstalled grub....now i can boot into kubuntu fine...but when i select windows.........it says loading stage2....then comes back to the grub menu!
[07:47] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: aren't we all going to eventually
[07:48] <YukiIkyuta> Xenguy: true, but still.
[07:48] <Fujitsu> We love IE!
[07:48] <YukiIkyuta> musik: is your menu.lst file set up right?
[07:48] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: hehe
[07:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> I was there when Windows 98 refused to install Netscape 7.0
[07:48] <arnducky> Unless yoiu're just talking about the Microsoft's criminal anti-trust convictions.
[07:48] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: no I don't ;)
[07:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> popping up a a nasty (false) error message to imply that Netscape installer was crap
[07:48] <musik> how do i know if menu.lst is ok?
[07:48] <allison> muSik > I have a dual boot...just don't have any reasons to get back to windows anymore.... :)
[07:48] <Fujitsu> Let us embrace IE, and thank the Wine project for enabling us to run such great, standards-compliant software in multiple operating systems!
[07:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> and there when some hackers found the sabotage code in Kernel.DLL
[07:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> and Netscape had a 7.01 fix about 2 weeks later that installed perfectly
[07:49] <BotBuilder> Fujitsu:  - lol
[07:49] <YukiIkyuta> musik: you need to look at your grub configuration, you'll find that file in /boot/grub
[07:49] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, I was a shill of the Evil Empire when Pentium rolled out.  I actually *sold* WIn98 OEM licenses with PC hardware.
[07:49] <SpAwN> can anyone help me try and figure out why i have no sound?
[07:49] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: whatever you're smoking, I want some ;)
[07:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> the only thing differnt was it didn't match KERNEL.DLL's sig scan
[07:49] <oskude> people who do multibooting without knowing about partitions and MBR should google first...
[07:49] <musik> is this ok?
[07:49] <musik> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[07:49] <musik> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
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[07:49] <oskude> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:50] <musik> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
[07:50] <musik> <meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />
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[07:50] <Xenguy> musik: bye
[07:50] <deFrysk> musik, you are flooding
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> musik: that's not the...
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[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> Ooh dear.
[07:50] <Xenguy> musik: rhymes with
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[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> What file is he pasting?!
[07:50] <thewayofzen> Help!?  rebooted my system.  it did a file check and it said  5.1% non-contiguous.  is this bad.. how do i get it to BE contiguous.. what do i need to know here
[07:50] <musik> title		Windows
[07:50] <musik> root		(hd0,0)
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> Ah.
[07:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> sabotage of Netscape installer was just one of 670+ points in the U.S. DOJ versus Microsoft Findings of FAct
[07:50] <musik> savedefault
[07:50] <BotBuilder> He's going so slow he won't be kicked lol
[07:50] <musik> makeactive
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: no, it's fine.
[07:50] <musik> chainloader	+1</pre></body>
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[07:50] <musik> sorry
[07:50] <musik> im sorry plz
[07:50] <musik> im pasting menu.lst part of it
[07:50] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, speaking of M$ signature scans... know how to force WinDOH!s 2K to ignore one?
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> You're also pasting a lot of HTML.
[07:50] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:50] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  do i need to do anything to it?  whats it mean?
[07:50] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:50] <musik> plz help me how to get to windows.my bro needs it
[07:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> Arnducky: what are you talking about ?
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: that's the equivalent of saying how many files are fragmented in a filesystem.
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[07:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> what sig scans ?
[07:51] <dosage> ubuntu is good os
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> You needn't do anything at all.
[07:51] <Fujitsu> musik: What?
[07:51] <Madpilot> Nobody ever needs Windows. MS just tells them they do.
[07:51] <mt_holden_ss> musik i think u dont have windows, u may have formatted it
[07:51] <Fujitsu> Madpilot: Yes.
[07:51] <dosage> i donated $200
[07:51] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  how do i defragment it then?
[07:51] <dosage> to Ubuntu
[07:51] <Xenguy> thewayofzen: that's fine, no worries
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> dosage: well done!
[07:51] <dosage> I like it alot
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: you don't! You don't need to, either.
[07:51] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, #ubuntu-offtopic or /MSG ?
[07:51] <dosage> I'm an ex-windows user
[07:51] <dosage> getting into linux
[07:51] <Xenguy> dosage: aren't we all :-)
[07:51] <dosage> but I only know shells
[07:51] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  so it will just keep getting worse or that check fixes it?
[07:51] <musik> no no windows is there......i can see its files in kubuntu..
[07:51] <dosage> and I haven't yet figured out how to
[07:51] <dosage> extract - install files.
[07:52] <Fujitsu> dosage: What?
[07:52] <SpAwN> how can i configure my sound card?
[07:52] <dosage> like how to BitchX on this computer
[07:52] <oskude> !multiboot
[07:52] <ubotu> I don't know, oskude
[07:52] <dosage> how do I put BitchX on here?
[07:52] <oskude> !dualboot
[07:52] <ubotu> I guess dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:52] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: it won't get worse, if it does, things will rearrange themselves.
[07:52] <Xenguy> dosage: use 'irssi' instead
[07:52] <YukiIkyuta> Everyone's Linux says that on startup.
[07:52] <dosage> BitchX > irssi
[07:52] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  awesome. thanks so much for taking the time to help me!
[07:52] <musik> i reinstalled win98, then reinstalled grub....now i can boot into kubuntu fine...but when i select windows.........it says loading stage2....then comes back to the grub menu!
[07:52] <thewayofzen> Xenguy, you too :)
[07:52] <Xenguy> dosage: BX sucks :-)
[07:52] <robotgeek> dosage: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[07:52] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: no problem. ^^
[07:52] <oskude> musik, your problem is asked and answered like 1000times, so pleas do google...
[07:52] <Madpilot> dosage: bitchx is in the repos
[07:53] <robotgeek> Xenguy: let him use bitchX, if he wants to :)
[07:53] <dosage> ok look
[07:53] <dosage> once I have BitchX
[07:53] <dosage> the .tar.gz
[07:53] <dosage> how do I extract it and use it?
[07:53] <oskude> musik, your grub settings are propably targeting to the wrong partition....
[07:53] <BotBuilder> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=534741#post534741
[07:53] <SpAwN> anyone know some good site that might help out my no soun dproblem?
[07:53] <Xenguy> BX bleeds...
[07:53] <arnducky> dosage: the withdrawals (including the hallucinations, convulsions, sweats, ans delerium tremens) get better after time.  Pretty soon you will no longer wake up screaming until you see a Blue Screen of DBeath
[07:53] <YukiIkyuta> dosage: you probably have there a source code.
[07:53] <robotgeek> dosage: you don't need to compile it, it's in the repos
[07:53] <BotBuilder> Probably shouldn't push it on irc but eh
[07:53] <BotBuilder> I'm eager
[07:53] <Madpilot> dosage: you don't need the tar.gz
[07:53] <musik> oskude: so how do i fix it plz say.....
[07:53] <dosage> what do I need
[07:54] <Xenguy> dosage: irssi
[07:54] <Xenguy> :P
[07:54] <dosage> I mean
[07:54] <dosage> xchat is good
[07:54] <Madpilot> dosage: start Synaptic, search for bitchx, install it
[07:54] <Madpilot> !tell dosage about synaptic
[07:54] <dosage> where do i find synaptic
[07:54] <oskude> musik, first you could post your /boot/grub/menu.lst file in pastebin...
[07:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell dosage about repos
[07:54] <oskude> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:54] <arnducky> sudo -v sudo sh ;passwd
[07:54] <Xenguy> !tel dosage about clue
[07:54] <ubotu> No idea, Xenguy
[07:54] <Xenguy> heheh
[07:54] <Madpilot> Xenguy: no need to be rude....
[07:54] <robotgeek> dosage: you'll need to enable the universe repository
[07:55] <dosage> nvm
[07:55] <Xenguy> Madpilot: no rudeness implied, natch =)
[07:55] <dosage> i'm using the live cd
[07:55] <dosage> i haven't installed it yet
[07:55] <dosage> because i dont want to lose all my music/movies
[07:55] <dosage> on my xp
[07:56] <arnducky> dosage why would you lose all your media (that you no doubt acquired proper licenses for)?
[07:56] <SpAwN> when i try to play a mp3 with xmms it says :Please check that the sound card is configured, that the output plugin is selected, and no other probgram is blocking thesoundcard
[07:56] <dosage> because i'm 2leet2buy
[07:56] <ClayG> what is a good program <gui>that will grab whole webpages off the net to view offline?
[07:56] <oskude> SpAwN, go to the preferences of xmms and configure other alsa devices...
[07:56] <BotBuilder> there is such a thing as dvd backup dosage
[07:56] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: there's a good one which isn't GUI..
[07:56] <SpAwN> i just installed ubuntu...so i dont know my way around it
[07:57] <arnducky> dosage, what do you mean?  Were you replying to me?
[07:57] <ClayG> what is it YukiIkyuta
[07:57] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: don't assume that you should only use a GUI program.
[07:57] <oskude> SpAwN, do you hear the ubuntu start sound ?
[07:57] <YukiIkyuta> wget will do it for you.
[07:57] <SpAwN> no
[07:57] <SpAwN> i dont think i have any sound
[07:57] <SpAwN> i havent heard a peep
[07:57] <oskude> SpAwN, thats bad...
[07:57] <ClayG> do you know the syntax to grab a whole site?
[07:57] <SpAwN> bah!
[07:58] <SpAwN> i used mandriva b4..it found my sound card fine
[07:58] <SpAwN> i tried centos earlier and it didnt find it
[07:58] <SpAwN> now im trying ubuntu and it didnt find it
[07:58] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: sure, but what site is it?
[07:58] <YukiIkyuta> Many people won't appreciate you doing that to them.
[07:58] <oskude> SpAwN, what is your sound card ? can you see it in "lspci" ?
[07:58] <BotBuilder> clayg - there's a firefox extension that does it i believe
[07:58] <zcat[1] > httrack !!
[07:59] <SpAwN> let me chek....i did it earlier and i found it
[07:59] <BotBuilder> The command line app is prolly better tho
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: wget -r http://sitename.com/
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> Make sure you're in a new directory.
[07:59] <BotBuilder> yeah that's the one
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> 'cause it'll put everything everywhere.
[07:59] <zcat[1] > httrack does the best job of anything I've tried
[07:59] <ClayG> nice
[07:59] <ClayG> Thanks alot
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> You may have to specify --level=inf
[07:59] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH 6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[07:59] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridg e (rev 03)
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> -k is also nice.
[07:59] <SpAwN> ^^ there she is
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> Infact! -m will do it!
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> wget -m http://sitename.com/     -- that's the `mirror` option
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> Possibly adding -k
[08:00] <ClayG> cool
[08:00] <ClayG> I'm doing that to ubuntu.org
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> ..
[08:00] <ClayG> lol just kidding
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> XD
[08:00] <ClayG> no this is a small site I just want to grab to view later
[08:01] <YukiIkyuta> Fair enough.
[08:01] <oskude> SpAwN, well, atleast its regonized... have you searched ubuntuforums.org or wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <YukiIkyuta> -m -k should be fine.
[08:01] <ClayG> What does the mirror option do?
[08:01] <SpAwN> no i jsut installed ubuntu like a hour ago
[08:01] <zcat[1] > wget -m http://wikipedia.org
[08:01] <SpAwN> what should i look for
[08:01] <SpAwN> any ideas?
[08:01] <oskude> SpAwN, intel sound
[08:01] <ClayG> I mean I'm running the first -r command
[08:01] <SpAwN> oskude, thanks bro
[08:01] <Xenguy> !clue
[08:01] <ubotu> clue is, like, the ability to just 'get it' without unnecessary extended explanation...
[08:02] <ClayG> this looks to be provided a copy of what the sitehas
[08:02] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : that'd be a good way to stress-test your computer... ;)
[08:02] <oskude> SpAwN, but i think the problems is only to know the right module and just loading it
[08:02] <zcat[1] > actually httrack would be better, it does multiple connections in parallel. I don't think wget does.
[08:02] <SpAwN> u think thats it a simple modprobe?
[08:02] <Fujitsu> httrack is good.
[08:03] <oskude> SpAwN, in best case :)
[08:03] <SpAwN> i hope :D
[08:03] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, ??
[08:03] <oskude> SpAwN, btw
[08:03] <viviersf> !skype
[08:03] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:03] <oskude> SpAwN, do you have any cards in System > Preferences > Sound ?
[08:03] <KiNeTiX> question, if i wanted to make my linux swat partition larger, would i be able to resize, or would i have to re install?
[08:03] <Fujitsu> Got to love ubotu
[08:03] <zcat[1] > skype blows.. take a look at gizmoproject
[08:03] <SpAwN> let me checl
[08:03] <KiNeTiX> question, if i wanted to make my linux swat partition larger, would i be able to resize, or would i have to re install?
[08:04] <SpAwN> yes i see one
[08:04] <frogzoo> SpAwN: maybe add multiverse repo?
[08:04] <SpAwN> intel ich6
[08:04] <oskude> SpAwN, then try if you hear the sounds in "sound events" tab
[08:04] <frogzoo> ping
[08:04] <Fujitsu> ponmg
[08:04] <Xenguy> pong
[08:04] <YukiIkyuta> pong!
[08:04] <SpAwN> no i hear no sound
[08:05] <ardchoille> I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu and Fedora's "shelf life" is 6 to 8 months. How often does a new release of Ubuntu come out?
[08:05] <oskude> SpAwN, and ofcourse look that the faders are not down/muted in volume control
[08:05] <SpAwN> how do i add multivers repo?
[08:05] <Xenguy> 6 months
[08:05] <oskude> !repos
[08:05] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:05] <Xenguy> wtf?
[08:05] <Fujitsu> I agree. WTF?
[08:05] <Myrtti> spammers banned prolly
[08:05] <Madpilot> huh?
[08:05] <SpAwN> volume says its up all the way in the little speaker in the bottom right
[08:05] <YukiIkyuta> All the normal bans.
[08:05] <YukiIkyuta> They were just making sure that they're set.
[08:05] <ardchoille> geez, which button did I push? lol
[08:05] <Fujitsu> Why are they banning a _dynamic_ IP?
[08:06] <Myrtti> anyway
[08:06] <YukiIkyuta> Well, those were set ages ago.
[08:06] <YukiIkyuta> So people might've set them just to ban someone once so they get th epoint.
[08:06] <oskude> SpAwN, do you have ONLY the intel card in Sound preferences ?
[08:06] <YukiIkyuta> Then forget to unban them.
[08:06] <SpAwN> yes
[08:06] <SpAwN> only that one
[08:06] <oskude> SpAwN, ok, hmmm
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> no sound spawn?
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> er, me too pal
[08:06] <SpAwN> no KiNeTiX
[08:06] <zcat[1] > I'm gonna reboot and see if I can get nvidia glx working
[08:06] <SpAwN> i feel ya then
[08:06] <SpAwN> ;)
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> :(
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> i cant listen to my bass drive dnb stream
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> anmd i cant install XMMS
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> ! grr
[08:07] <ubotu> No idea, KiNeTiX
[08:07] <SpAwN> lol at least u got that
[08:07] <SpAwN> all i got is the puter beeps
[08:07] <oskude> SpAwN, sry that i cant really help (that was why i changed from debian to ubuntu, my sound was autoconfigured :)
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> got what? I got no sound homie
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> dont do me no good
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> have no idea how to install XMMS.
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> or even AIM.
[08:07] <Fujitsu> KiNeTiX: Gaim handles AIM.
[08:07] <Xenguy> !enter
[08:07] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:07] <SpAwN> yea gaim is great
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> i know, i wanted to install AIM though
[08:08] <KiNeTiX> so that i could learn how to install apps
[08:08] <frogzo1> !restricted
[08:08] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:08] <SpAwN> well what are the chanced of me getting the sound to work....i have a pretty new computer and my sound card DOES work?
[08:08] <KiNeTiX> so like i had asked, and got no reply, could i resize my swat partitio?
[08:08] <snausages> Xenguy: i think that went unnoticed
[08:08] <KiNeTiX> or no?
[08:08] <Xenguy> snausages: we try :-)
[08:08] <snausages> :D
[08:09] <KiNeTiX> okay, question why if im logged in as a username, and im under admin how come i cant delete folders?
[08:10] <DonPachi> Spawn did you try switching between OSS/ESD/ALSA under <system><multimedia system selector>?
[08:10] <oskude> KiNeTiX, i think you could do that. but i never (would) done that...
[08:10] <oskude> KiNeTiX, i think you could do that. but i never (would) done that... (swap resize)
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> resize swat?
[08:10] <SpAwN> DonPachi, no
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> ahh..
[08:10] <DonPachi> give that a shot, fixed mine.
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> yeah, you see i only haev it set to 500mb
[08:10] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: are you sudo'd to 'root' ?
[08:10] <Madpilot> KiNeTiX: you need to use sudo if you want to delete stuff that's in the root partition
[08:10] <Technicianxp> Hi.  I'm a bit worried about dual-booting Ubuntu 5.10 with Windows XP
[08:10] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: what command are you using?
[08:10] <Technicianxp> Would it be safe?
[08:10] <oskude> KiNeTiX, and how much RAM do you have ?
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> its on my desktop and i cant del it
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> erm, 512mb/s
[08:10] <BotBuilder> Technie - yeah
[08:10] <Madpilot> !tell Technicianxp about dualboot
[08:10] <BotBuilder> I've done it twice
[08:11] <oskude> KiNeTiX, and you have problems ?
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> gah so many ?'s!
[08:11] <YukiIkyuta> Technicianxp: it would be ridiculously safe.
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> one by one. lol
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> what am i senator.
[08:11] <BotBuilder> although Hardware never really worked out, windows Xp was always fine
[08:11] <oskude> KiNeTiX, i mean problems not having enough RAM/swap ?
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> ah i meant the partitn itself
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> th ext 3
[08:11] <Madpilot> KiNeTiX: please stop using your ENTER key as punctuation. Thanks...
[08:11] <BotBuilder> lol
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> not swat part, EXT part, i oculd resize taht, right?
[08:12] <oskude> KiNeTiX, atleast in theory, yes :)
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> KiNeTiX: it depends if you used LVM or not.
[08:12] <KiNeTiX> LVM?
[08:12] <Technicianxp> Yeah I was just a bit worried because a previous Mandrake 10 install ended up having me reinstall everything
[08:12] <Technicianxp> But thanks for the help
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> Linux Volume Management..
[08:12] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: logical volume management
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> logical*!!
[08:12] <snausages> YukiIkyuta: you're disqualified, kthx
[08:12] <KiNeTiX> er-- i dont recall using LVM. so i can't? or did i.
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> Damn.
[08:13] <KiNeTiX> how do i sudo user?
[08:13] <snausages> KiNeTiX: LVM can be selected when you do your initial breezy install
[08:13] <SpAwN> crap that didnt work either
[08:13] <SpAwN> i wonder what it could be
[08:13] <DonPachi> er..
[08:14] <Madpilot> !sudo
[08:14] <ubotu> methinks sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:14] <Madpilot> KiNeTiX: see ubotu ^^^
[08:14] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: you want to be root, or another regular user?
[08:14] <KiNeTiX> root
[08:14] <Xenguy> see above
[08:14] <mlambie> #lugradio
[08:14] <oskude> SpAwN, you should search the ubuntuforums.org. ive seen so many audio not working threads, that there must be a solution :)
[08:15] <quacker> Where's the 'cservice' channel?
[08:15] <SpAwN> ill have to look through them oskude
[08:16] <SpAwN> thanks for ya help
[08:16] <Ikurus> hey, I have a problem.
[08:16] <SpAwN> i appreciate it
[08:16] <SpAwN> and everyone else who put there 2 cents in
[08:16] <oskude> SpAwN, audio is mystery to me too in linux :)
[08:16] <Xenguy> Ikurus: yer too close to the Sun - watch out
[08:16] <Sneaky_Bastard> I only put in 1 cent :(
[08:16] <Ikurus> I've been  runnin Ubunu for a while now, but am still fairly new to linux, any way, I can't open anything, it says that it is starting up then just disapears :s
[08:17] <SpAwN> hehe
[08:17] <Ikurus> hehe X
[08:17] <DubbaC> is my commodore 64 - 64 bit?
[08:17] <Sneaky_Bastard> if only he had used epoxy, instead of wax
[08:17] <YukiIkyuta> DubbaC: I doubt it.
[08:17] <oskude> DubbaC, yes, if you multiply
[08:18] <TreeStump> hi
[08:18] <Xenguy> Ikurus: any particular app?
[08:18] <Ikurus> heh, a busy channel
[08:18] <Ikurus> yeas any app
[08:18] <TreeStump> does ubuntu support more than 2 cpu's?
[08:18] <Ikurus> I tried terminal, firefox and system monitor
[08:18] <oskude> Ikurus, lauch from terminal, maybe they spit some usefull error messages...
[08:18] <DubbaC> can i install ubuntu on my ti-89?
[08:18] <Ikurus> I can't open terminal :p
[08:19] <devint> can you make animated gif's with GIMP? somebody please at least answer
[08:19] <oskude> Ikurus, hmm
[08:19] <Xenguy> Ikurus: sounds odd - why would that happen?  Any error messages?
[08:19] <oskude> devint, ask google...
[08:19] <Ikurus> nope
[08:19] <Ikurus> I leave my PC on alot, and it has been on a good week now
[08:19] <WildPenguin> devint, try GIMP-GAP
[08:19] <Ikurus> and then suddenly this morning ti sarted to happen
[08:19] <snausages> Ikurus: try Alt+F2 then type in xterm
[08:20] <Xenguy> Ikurus: what was the last system change you made?
[08:20] <oskude> Ikurus, and dont say you use dapper :)
[08:20] <Ikurus> erm
[08:21] <Ikurus> nothing, btw
[08:21] <Ikurus> Well I did some moving of stuff last night
[08:21] <Madpilot> "stuff"?
[08:21] <Ikurus> but it was all in /home/
[08:21] <oskude> Ikurus, but gnome starts as usual (like the panel and stuff in it) )
[08:21] <Ikurus> but I did it in sudo nautilus
[08:22] <Xenguy> Ikurus: I bet you shot yourself in the foot :-)  Happens to the best of us :P
[08:22] <Ikurus> yeah I probably did something really silly.
[08:22] <Ikurus> oskude, it has been on a while
[08:22] <snausages> Ikurus: how did you launch your irc client ?
[08:22] <Ikurus> it was already open
[08:22] <Ikurus> I was using it fine last night
[08:23] <TreeStump> does ubuntu support more than 2 cpu's?
[08:23] <Ikurus> this morning I turn on screen, unlock it, and then hit firefox but nothing
[08:23] <snausages> Ikurus: maybe it's justa  hiccup of sorts, have you tried a reboot ?
[08:23] <Ikurus> hehe, reboot = :(
[08:23] <Ikurus> shall I just try restarting X11?
[08:23] <oskude> Ikurus, or atleast restart of X11
[08:23] <WildPenguin> TreeStump, i believe so, yes
[08:23] <Ikurus> okk
[08:24] <Ikurus> brb
[08:24] <TreeStump> ok, so Ubuntu supports all the theoretical 4 cpu's on my AMD X2?
[08:25] <spikebike> er 4?
[08:25] <spikebike> don't you mean 2?
[08:25] <jugarnatha> hi
[08:25] <jugarnatha> so I think I have a java issue.
[08:25] <Ikurus> worked
[08:25] <Ikurus> brb
[08:25] <oskude> Ikurus, nice
[08:26] <szehne> please don't flame me but what is the most stable packaging system? debian, rpm, ...
[08:26] <spikebike> define stable
[08:26] <oskude> szehne, ask google
[08:26] <jugarnatha> If I try to instant message people through some websites (myspace) I can't see what I'm typing or what is being remitted to me.
[08:26] <jugarnatha> Can anyone help?
[08:26] <andrew> I'm using gtkpod when I pull mp3 files off my iPod they have the funky names (like GZWU.mp3) Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:26] <TreeStump> no i dont mean 2
[08:26] <musik> my bro reinstalled win98, then i reinstalled grub, now i can boot into linux fine, but when i select windows it says loading stage2..then comes back to grub menu...plz help me!!
[08:27] <YukiIkyuta> andrew: it's not easy. You're not supposed to be able to pull files from it.
[08:27] <TreeStump> the X2 has a theoretical 4 cpus
[08:27] <spikebike> treestump er explain why you mean 4?
[08:27] <Madpilot> TreeStump: two CPUs, each dual core, right? nice hardware...
[08:27] <spikebike> X2's don't do dual socket
[08:27] <TreeStump> beacuse there are two cores each with hyperthreading
[08:27] <spikebike> so the max is 2
[08:27] <szehne> oskude, i was hoping for some human input, but that's alright
[08:27] <spikebike> tree nope, no hyperthreading
[08:27] <szehne> thanks anywyas
[08:27] <oskude> musik, did you post your /boot/grub/menu.lst in pastebin as i told you ?
[08:27] <jugarnatha> If I try to instant message people through some websites (myspace) I can't see what I'm typing or what is being remitted to me.
[08:27] <spikebike> AMD doesn't do hyperthreading (nor will they ever)
[08:27] <retrix> andrew: write a patch to fix it ;)
[08:27] <YukiIkyuta> spikebike: they get close. xP
[08:27] <oskude> szehne, well, this is ubuntu support, and ubuntu uses deb....
[08:27] <Myrtti> szehne: well what do you exactly mean with stable
[08:28] <TreeStump> when i had a single core AMD it said 2 cpu's on windows?
[08:28] <shekhar> hello how can i repair permissions on my boot volume, they have gone amiss since i installed kde...
[08:28] <Myrtti> packages don't crash :-)
[08:28] <musik> oskude: yes
[08:28] <musik> title		Windows
[08:28] <musik> root		(hd0,0)
[08:28] <musik> savedefault
[08:28] <musik> makeactive
[08:28] <musik> chainloader	+1
[08:28] <oskude> !pastebin
[08:28] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:28] <YukiIkyuta> musik: no!
[08:28] <szehne> i'm looking to build a distro around blackbox and other small utils
[08:28] <musik> YukiIkyuta: what to do plz help!
[08:29] <Myrtti> well apt is most intuitive one, IMO
[08:29] <oskude> musik, if you posted your file in pastebin, give me the link, ill look
[08:30] <musik> oskude: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444606
[08:30] <oskude> musik, ok, sec
[08:31] <oskude> musik, would be more usefull if you post the whole file, but looks good to me. are you SURE windows is in partition 0,0 ?
[08:31] <SpAwN> hmm i might have found a solution
[08:31] <musik> oskude: yes windows is on hda, hda1 to be precise
[08:31] <frogzo1> musik: just checking - you do have just one disk that is IDE, yes?
[08:31] <SpAwN> it says to uninstall polypaudio  and install esound...so i opened synaptic and tried to but there is no packages
[08:31] <oskude> musik, hmm
[08:31] <musik> i have 2 disks hda & hdb
[08:32] <frogzo1> musik: did you "grub-install /dev/hda"   ?
[08:32] <oskude> musik, and youre using ubuntu breezy ?
[08:32] <SpAwN> wait esound is already installed
[08:32] <SpAwN> hmm
[08:32] <SpAwN> nm there goes that idea
[08:33] <shekhar> hello can someone help me, i need to repair permissions on my boot volume
[08:33] <musik> yes i did grub-install /dev/hda...im on hoary
[08:34] <oskude> musik, congratulations, you maybe found a bug in hoary :) (that propably wont be fixed;)
[08:34] <frogzo1> musik: just checking - these are IDE drives, not SATA?
[08:34] <oskude> musik, i would install breezy
[08:34] <frogzo1> c'mon peeps - hoary boots doze on hda1 no probs - this is a simple problem
[08:35] <oskude> frogzo1, i hope too
[08:35] <frogzo1> musik: pastebin your menu.lst
[08:35] <oskude> musik, the WHOLE menu.lst :)
[08:35] <oskude> frogzo1, a part is here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444606
[08:35] <musik> IDE
[08:35] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, in my experience the most common cause is lack of permissions to the device - you are in the group 'audio'?
[08:35] <SpAwN> let me check
[08:36] <henk> hi i'm looking for a way to print all the lines of stdin execpt the last one (the inverse of tail -n1)
[08:36] <shekhar> hello can someone help me repair permissions on my boot partition, they have been changed since i installed kde
[08:36] <musik> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444625
[08:36] <oskude> shekhar, "chmod" is a prog to change permissions...
[08:36] <SpAwN> no
[08:37] <shekhar> oskude:  how do i restore the permissions i had before?
[08:37] <SpAwN> wait
[08:37] <frogzo1> musik: did you set the bootable flag for hda1 with fdisk?
[08:37] <oskude> shekhar, dunno, sry
[08:37] <shad0w1e> is there any disk checker utility to check a FAT32 partition?
[08:37] <SpAwN> yes..im not a user on audio but im the only one in group members
[08:37] <musik> frogzo1: yes of course......it was all perfect....
[08:38] <frogzo1> musik: obviously not perfect :D
[08:38] <SpAwN> and under settings for my user is says im able to use audio
[08:38] <Nelo> Hello, how do i keep the terminal window size permanently?
[08:39] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, hmm... another idea gone
[08:39] <Beleys>  Poy
[08:39] <frogzo1> sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l should give something like /dev/hda1   *           1        1342    10779583+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:39] <frogzo1> 
[08:39] <boo> hey, i installed wine from the synaptic package thing but i dont see it in any of the Applications menu. can anyone help me find where/how to launch it?
[08:39] <shad0w1e> Nelo: Settings > Save as default
[08:39] <SpAwN> hehe i know ive been through a few tonight
[08:39] <frogzo1> boo: for starters, maybe install xwine now?
[08:39] <mrkoje> OpenVpn is GREAT!
[08:39] <boo> xwine is installed too
[08:40] <musik> so wont i be able to fix my grub problem:(?
[08:40] <mrkoje> the best damn vpn (at least easiest) solution I could find
[08:40] <frogzo1> boo: well now you need to install an OS into wine :)
[08:40] <YukiIkyuta> frogzo1: install an OS.. !?!
[08:40] <Nelo> shad0w1e is that in the profile?
[08:40] <boo> eh, lol how do i go about doing that
[08:40] <frogzo1> musik: anything funny going on in the bios settings?
[08:40] <frogzo1> boo google knows everything :)
[08:40] <musik> frogzo1: i changed nothing in the bios:(
[08:41] <frogzo1> musik: maybe just for starters, disable the 2nd drive, reinstall grub & see what happens
[08:41] <musik> ok lets see
[08:41] <musik> im logging out....plz pray that it works!!!!!
[08:42] <bunnynhb> Hello ya'll.
[08:42] <YukiIkyuta> Hi.
[08:42] <oskude> SpAwN, did that adding you to the audio group help ?
[08:42] <shekhar> can someone help me
[08:42] <YukiIkyuta> shekhar: ask your question first.
[08:42] <oskude> shekhar, and we will try :)
[08:43] <shekhar> YukiIkyuta:  often i do but no one responds ;) my question is how do i repair permissions on my boot partition
[08:43] <bunnynhb> Does Ubuntu 5.10 automatically install the modem drivers for Smartlink sl1900 PCI modem?
[08:43] <SpAwN> i was in the members part...i wasnt in the user part
[08:44] <shekhar> YukiIkyuta:  i installed kde on ubuntu and it has buggered a lot of things including that most folders in my root directory are now locked to me
[08:44] <frogzo1> shekhar: what's the problem?
[08:44] <shekhar> frogzo1:  see above
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> KDE?
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> Weird.
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> Well ..
[08:44] <oskude> SpAwN, ? does your audio work ?
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> Just open a terminal, `sudo -s' should give you a root shell.
[08:44] <SpAwN> i just found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28intel%29%7C%28hda%29
[08:44] <boo> hah  i dont understand anything this is saying http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/   its only my second day on linux :P
[08:44] <frogzo1> shekhar: did you have the meta package gnome-desktop installed before upgrading?
[08:44] <SpAwN> but im not 100 sure i have a intel hda or w/e card
[08:45] <SpAwN> oskude, not yet
[08:45] <YukiIkyuta> boo: wine should work as is.
[08:45] <WebLOCH> hood morning all
[08:45] <shekhar> frogzo1: you mean gnome-desktop-environment?
[08:45] <boo> i dont know how to get it to work
[08:45] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu onto a USB pen drive?
[08:45] <YukiIkyuta> boo: what've you installed?
[08:45] <frogzo1> !upgrade
[08:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:46] <boo> xwine and wine as packages in synaptic package manager
[08:46] <frogzo1> shekhar: my bad - these pkgs "ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop"
[08:46] <YukiIkyuta> Try typing `xwine' at a prompt.
[08:46] <shekhar> frogzo1:  yes, but i uninstalled them when i couldn't get back into gnome
[08:47] <TreeStump> hi
[08:47] <frogzo1> !kde
[08:47] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[08:47] <oskude> SpAwN, do you have any "snd*" modules loaded (lsmod) ?
[08:47] <shekhar> frogzo1:  actually i still have ubuntu-base
[08:47] <TreeStump> how do i log in as root on ubuntu?
[08:47] <YukiIkyuta> !tell TreeStump about root
[08:47] <oskude> TreeStump, try "sudo su -"
[08:48] <YukiIkyuta> oskude: actually, the reccommended way is `sudo -s'
[08:48] <frogzo1> TreeStump: the Ubuntu way (TM) is to do everything with sudo
[08:48] <SpAwN> yes i do oskude
[08:48] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, roger. thnx
[08:48] <YukiIkyuta> ^^
[08:48] <shekhar> frogzo1:  how can i repair permissions that were changed with the kde install?
[08:49] <frogzo1> shekhar: methinks your setup is maybe broken worse than just a permission problem might fix - I'd do a reinstall of the gnome environment
[08:49] <SpAwN> 9 diff ones
[08:49] <boo> haha yuki that was so simple
[08:49] <SpAwN> when i use lsmod | grep snd
[08:49] <oskude> shekhar, could you say exactly what permission is not so as it was ?
[08:50] <YukiIkyuta> boo: neat.
[08:50] <shekhar> frogzo1:  well my system was worse off yesterday than now ;)
[08:50] <boo> do most programs launch like that?
[08:50] <shekhar> oskude:  /usr /bin directories are locked now
[08:50] <boo> and how do i get a shortcut
[08:50] <YukiIkyuta> boo: like what ..?
[08:50] <oskude> shekhar, what do you mean by locked ?
[08:51] <shekhar> oskude:  meaning i cannot write to them
[08:51] <boo> like...under the application window, how can i launch it from there
[08:51] <oskude> shekhar, thats normal
[08:51] <frogzo1> shekhar: only root can write /usr/bin
[08:51] <shekhar> oskude frogzo1: so where do i install new apps (i.e. firefox 1.5)?
[08:52] <mp3guy> in breezy, when i right click on the desktop i can no longer choose terminal, where is this gone?
[08:52] <oskude> shekhar, are you doint it manually ?
[08:52] <YukiIkyuta> shekhar: into that directory, as root.
[08:52] <frogzo1> shekhar: you don't worry about it - just "sudo apt-get install" & let the package manager figure it out
[08:52] <shekhar> frogzo1:  firefox 1.5 is not in the breezy repositories
[08:53] <oskude> shekhar, just curious, what do you NEED from 1.5 thats not in breezys version ?
[08:53] <frogzo1> shekhar: then, yes, you'll need to "sudo cp" or similiar
[08:53] <TreeStump> hmm i cant seem to install the NVIDIA display drivers on Ubuntu
[08:53] <shekhar> oskude:  i downloaded firefox 1.5 and want to know where to put it, i can't run the starup script if it's in usr/lib/
[08:53] <frogzo1> !tell TreeStump about nvidia
[08:53] <shekhar> oskude:  i want to try 1.5
[08:53] <boo> are there any alternatives to wine?
[08:53] <YukiIkyuta> oskude: incidentally, Breezy's version has a large memory hole.
[08:53] <WildPenguin> mp3guy, install nautilus-open-terminal
[08:54] <oskude> shekhar, then ask google and ubuntuforums.org
[08:54] <shekhar> oskude:  it works, just that i don't know where to put the firefox directory in my file system
[08:54] <SpAwN> hmm  no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH synap says i have gcc installed? what else do i need to be able to compile and configure things?
[08:54] <frogzo1> boo you don't need an alternative - you just need to read the wine howtos
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> (so I hear)
[08:54] <shekhar> oskude:  i looked
[08:54] <oskude> shekhar, where ever you want :)
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: you need gcc, g++, typically.
[08:54] <SpAwN> k
[08:54] <oskude> shekhar, but you can as well run it from your home dir,,,
[08:54] <boo> will wine run games?
[08:54] <rob1> SpAwN, install the build-essential package
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> boo: some.
[08:54] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, install build-essentials, it will get what is needed ;)
[08:54] <boo> a list anywhere?
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> Possibly.
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> Google it?
[08:55] <rob1> Seveas, dragon or duck?
[08:55] <SpAwN> nice
[08:55] <rooted_newbie> didnt take long
[08:55] <shekhar> oskude:  but if i run firefox in a terminal it still opens the older version
[08:55] <TreeStump> is this some form of autoresponder im talking to?
[08:55] <Seveas> rob1, dragin
[08:55] <frogzo1> boo wine runs most games, but not as quickly as native doze :(
[08:55] <frogzo1> !tell TreeStump about ubotu
[08:55] <oskude> shekhar, then you should learn to use terminal first ;) go to the dir where the new firefox is and run "./firefox"
[08:56] <SpAwN> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist?
[08:56] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: whatever you're installing; it needs the kernel's source.
[08:56] <SpAwN> is it in a diff place i can set with a option?..
[08:56] <rob1> whats with  DapperDrake (n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas)?
[08:56] <rooted_newbie> cloop mbr 0wnz me
[08:56] <Seveas> rob1, it's an irssi running in a screen at my server
[08:57] <rooted_newbie> cannot get rid of it
[08:57] <Seveas> I like to be able to grep through logs :)
[08:57] <rob1> fair enough
[08:57] <rooted_newbie> any advice ?
[08:57] <SpAwN> do i need kernel-package?
[08:57] <feugan3333> Hi all. I've just downloaded the new firefox. I want it to run instead of the old version. I just need to insert the directory where it it located in to the begining of my path. Where is the correct place to do this? .bashrc?
[08:57] <YukiIkyuta> I must make my dinner now ...
[08:57] <SpAwN> or what do i need so i can use the kernel source...or w/e it needs to do with it
[08:58] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: download the correct kernel-source-* package.
[08:58] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: type uname -a, copy what it says here.
[08:58] <oskude> SpAwN, when compiling stuff, you need to read the readme/install files and install all (*-dev) packages of the stuff that are written as "required/depends" in there
[08:58] <SpAwN> allright
[08:59] <bunnynhb> Aanyone here worked with modems?
[08:59] <shekhar> oskude:  like i said, that works, but how do i get 1.5 to run as the default firefox on my system?
[08:59] <Madpilot> feugan3333: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[08:59] <Madpilot> feugan3333: short version: FF 1.5 is likely to break stuff
[09:00] <boo> how do i get a launcher into the apps menu?
[09:00] <oskude> shekhar, you could rename(or whatever) the old firefox and make a symbolic link to your 1.5 instead
[09:00] <rob1> heh, its funny how every time a new ff comes out everyone asks how to install it
[09:00] <Seveas> oskude, and by that make a lot of things bork...
[09:00] <Madpilot> rob1: and then complains when it breaks their system...
[09:01] <rob1> Madpilot, yep
[09:01] <Seveas> it's so stupid, the new FF is not that much different
[09:01] <oskude> Seveas, well, he wanted it so :)
[09:01] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: external modems?
[09:01] <rob1> whats the attraction to having to run the very latest ff anyway?
[09:02] <frogzo1> beats me - when all the plugins work for 1.07 makes no sense
[09:02] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: Internal- Smartlink SL1900 PCI. I cannot use an anolog modem here, Just a digital.
[09:02] <feugan3333> Madpilot: I'm not trying to create/use a package. I'm just running the new firefox from a directory in my home directory. If I want to use whatever will be broken I'll use the old version.
[09:02] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: what's your modem problem?
[09:03] <oskude> Seveas, if you mean my method brakes his system, please tell him a better one...
[09:03] <WebLOCH> Anyone here run Breezy on a USB pen drive?  Im looking for feedback on the performance hit ?
[09:03] <feugan3333> rob1: I did not ask how to install it. I provides a binary. I just asked how to insert that directory into my path.
[09:03] <Seveas> oskude, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[09:04] <TreeStump> what language was ubotu made in?
[09:04] <Seveas> and make sure /usr/local/bin is in the $PATH before /usr/bin
[09:04] <Seveas> TreeStump, australian
[09:04] <rob1> feugan3333, I'm not stopping you, it will be out in the repos soon enough though
[09:04] <cilkay> Hi. I have a Ubuntu Live CD. I've downloaded the regular installation CD to the hard disk. Is there a way to eject the Live CD so that I can pop in a blank CD to burn that other ISO image? I think Knoppix can do this but I'm not sure about Ubuntu.
[09:04] <WebLOCH> Seveas, you're quite knowledgable, do you know anything about running Breezy from a pen drive?
[09:04] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: I've done it
[09:04] <TreeStump> programming language that is
[09:04] <Seveas> WebLOCH, only that it's not officially supported :)
[09:04] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: I installed breezy (5.10) and it lists that the modem is installed and I cannot find out if it's actually working.
[09:04] <oskude> Seveas, he has a binary version
[09:04] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: it's a pain in the arse
[09:05] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, could you please write your experiences on a wikipage, this gets asked often
[09:05] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: you have to hack the initrd to add a few seconds delay and force usb storage to load
[09:05] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: ping me tomorrow and I'll do it
[09:05] <Seveas> ok
[09:05] <cilkay> TreeStump: what is "ubotu"?
[09:05] <oskude> Seveas, but then again, would it be enough if the path to the new firefox is before the old (in $PATH) ?
[09:05] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:06] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, yeah ive seen some info on it, but i was wondering what the performance is like. I just got a 4gb pen drive, and the only thing i want to do is run around with ubuntu on it...
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: my X40 came sans hard drive, so I had to wait for a week or so while it arrived, so  netbooted and installed onto the usb drive
[09:06] <boo> I have a launcher for xwine on my desktop, how do i put it in my applications menu?  is there any folder similar to start menu?
[09:06] <Seveas> oskude, yes
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: it's not worth doing
[09:06] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, is it that slow?
[09:06] <oskude> oskude, roger, thnx
[09:06] <TreeStump> cilkay: Ubotu is a user
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> it's a technical fun hack
[09:06] <oskude> lol
[09:06] <oskude> Seveas, roger, thnx :)
[09:07] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, how are technical fun hacks not worth doing? *g*
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: well, yes and no, in general I have a laptop and my own desktops
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: :)
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> so I don't need a movable ubuntu install
[09:07] <daaku> anyone know if its possible to do something like "-"*80 to print 80 dash's?
[09:07] <boo> i guess not?
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > windows
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > slackware
[09:08] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, yeah that makes sense in your case, but im a student with a part time job, both uni and workplace have awful winxp over win2k systems, I'd just like to be able to slap the pendrive in and start using a real OS
[09:08] <oskude> Seveas, another quick question, what would be the best place to make a constant change in $PATH variable ?
[09:08] <HrdwrBoB> dosage: for the most part, yes
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > solaris
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > redhat
[09:08] <dosage> however
[09:08] <dosage> windows 3.1 > *
[09:10] <frogzo1> daaku: perl -e 'print "-"x80" ;'   I think
[09:10] <boo> where (physically) are the launchers in the apps menu?
[09:11] <frogzo1> daaku: this works perl -e 'print "-"x80; '
[09:12] <daaku> frogzo1: i was hoping to do it without having to run an external program
[09:12] <cilkay> Anyone know how to burn a CD from an ISO image on the hard disk while using the live CD? I know how to mount the partition to get at the ISO image but I don't know how to eject the live CD while the system is running so that I can burn a CD.
[09:13] <cenopec> whats the command to mount the floppy drive?
[09:13] <frogzo1> daaku: you can do it in a loop in bash
[09:13] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: I have downloaded the new modem files to reinstalland filesthat my ISP needs for me to connect - including Java.
[09:13] <oskude> cilkay, i think you need to run the livecd in ram for that, but im not sure. does the livecd have a "toram" startup flag ?
[09:13] <daaku> cilkay: i dont think thats possible with ubuntu's live cd, but DSL can be loaded in memory (which allows you to eject the cd)
[09:13] <frogzo1> cenopec: fdmount
[09:14] <cenopec> k thanks
[09:14] <cilkay> daaku: but I'd need to burn DSL first :)
[09:14] <TreeStump> !tell cilkay about ubotu
[09:14] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, is there a distro that you think is worth running from pendrive?
[09:14] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: distro is not really important
[09:14] <frogzo1> WebLOCH: ubuntu live CD :)
[09:14] <daaku> cilkay: hehe. slightly problematic
[09:14] <Nelo> Weblock puppyLinux :)
[09:14] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: ubuntu is as good/bad as any
[09:15] <cenopec> frogzol: what else do i need to include in the command
[09:15] <cenopec> ie location?
[09:15] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, but lacks the writable persistant storage i seek :p
[09:15] <cenopec> fdmount (): Must run with EUID=root
[09:15] <cilkay> daaku: I wonder if I can get DSL on a 32M USB key? Of course I have no idea if the machine with the burner can boot from a USB key.
[09:15] <cenopec> i ge that error
[09:16] <oskude> cilkay, where did you got your livecd ?
[09:16] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, and everytime i change something i will need to reburn the CD
[09:16] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: what's wrong with liveCD/USBkey
[09:16] <boo> where (physically) are the launchers in the apps menu?
[09:16] <cilkay> oskude: friend
[09:16] <oskude> cilkay, and you dont have any OS in your pc ?
[09:16] <HrdwrBoB> you can use hte usb key to store your files/etc
[09:16] <TreeStump> u can get the live cd off variouss mirrors
[09:16] <WildPenguin> cenopec, 'mount /dev/fd0'
[09:16] <cilkay> oskude: nope, not the one with the burner.
[09:16] <shekhar> oskude:  i fixed my problems, thanks for your help
[09:16] <cenopec> k thanks
[09:16] <cilkay> oskude: not a big deal - I can burn tomorrow at the office. Thanks all the same.
[09:17] <Madpilot> later, all
[09:17] <shekhar> oskude:  and btw, firefox 1.5 is much faster and worth playing with
[09:17] <soothsayer> hrmm.. upgrading to breezy screwed up my webserver :(
[09:17] <bunnynhb> Anyone know how to test if an installed modem is working?
[09:17] <oskude> shekhar, what did you do ?
[09:17] <TreeStump> oskude: mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu
[09:17] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, well if im going to do that, i might aswell have a usbkey that does it all right?  If its as similar as you say
[09:17] <oskude> TreeStump, ?
[09:17] <shekhar> oskude:  i just renamed the directory in /usr/lib and created a symbolic link like you said :)
[09:18] <viviersf> !java
[09:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:18] <oskude> shekhar, swt
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: USB is much slower, though USB2 is not too bad
[09:18] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, it is a USB2 stick sorry, I probably should have specified earlier
[09:18] <soothsayer> can someone attempt to connect to http://64.141.22.241/heritage ?
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> if it's USB2 and the PCs have USB2 and it's decently fast flash
[09:18] <WebLOCH> USB 2.0 hispeed
[09:18] <WebLOCH> well i believe the read/write speed is 20Mbps
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> you should be able to use it fairly well
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: come back tomorrow and I'll write you a a guide
[09:19] <HrdwrBoB> I cbf atm, I'll do it when I'm at work, I'm at home and it's hot
[09:19] <TreeStump> oskdude: that is the mirror for a ubuntu live cd that u were asking about
[09:19] <oskude> TreeStump, i didnt ask such thing :)
[09:19] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, thats a very nice offer, but its not the how im after, its more the "will i get enough performance to warrant doing so" ?
[09:19] <shekhar> oskude:  swt?
[09:19] <Geeek> can anybody help me when installing ubuntu?
[09:19] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: well, I think it should be fine
[09:19] <YukiIkyuta> Geeek: what's the issue?
[09:19] <cenopec> WildPenguin: when i use that command the terminal just ceases to do anything
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: but I'llnotmake any gaurauntees :
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[09:20] <zcat[1] > soothsayer: Connection refused
[09:20] <raphink> Geeek: put the CD in, click ok several times, enter a name and password and there you are
[09:20] <oskude> shekhar, sweat. i dint mention about renaming a directory...
[09:20] <soothsayer> hrmm
[09:20] <soothsayer> can you try: http://64.141.22.241
[09:20] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, well ill give it a go i guess, if it fails miserably, ill tell you and you'll have a benchmark to reply with from now on haha!  If it goes okay Ill let you know anyway
[09:20] <TreeStump> oskdude: "oskude where did you got your livecd ?" but doesnt matter, lol
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: :D
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> cool
[09:20] <zcat[1] > same
[09:21] <soothsayer> damn
[09:21] <raphink> or is there anything wrong when you install Geeek ?
[09:21] <WildPenguin> cenopec, do you get a command prompt after it has executed?
[09:21] <soothsayer> apache must be messed up after the upgrade
[09:21] <Xlylith> Hi All, My Evolution just crashed after opening large mail. Can anyone help me, please?
[09:21] <pc22> sambagirl, hello
[09:22] <Seveas> Xlylith, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApplicationCrah
[09:22] <Seveas> Xlylith, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApplicationCrash
[09:22] <oskude> Xlylith, and you cant start it again ? or is it still "running" crashed ?
[09:22] <cenopec> no
[09:22] <WildPenguin> cenopec, nothing at all - just blank?
[09:22] <cenopec> yeah
[09:22] <tux75> hi there.
[09:22] <cenopec> and it has worked before
[09:23] <cenopec> i had to mount it before
[09:23] <tux75> i installed ubuntu on my pc, and my network won't work
[09:23] <Xlylith> oskude, everytime I opened my evolution,  it takes most of my RAM and hung
[09:23] <tux75> anybody can help me?
[09:23] <WildPenguin> cenopec, what do you get from running 'grep fd0 /etc/fstab' ?
[09:23] <quacker> tux75, what sort of network do you have?
[09:24] <oskude> Xlylith, try launching evolution from terminal and see if it spits any usefull error messages
[09:24] <oskude> Xlylith, but dont paste any multi lines here :)
[09:24] <tux75> i'm connected in a local network (eth0) with others winz computers
[09:24] <frogzo1> tux75: click on the network icon at the top right & configure eth0
[09:24] <cenopec> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:25] <quacker> (in any case, I strongy urge you to read the following man pages: man ifconfig | ifup | ifdown | /etc/network/interfaces | /etc/resolv.conf
[09:26] <quacker> tux75, did Linux find and install the hardware represented by eth0 properly?
[09:26] <WildPenguin> cenopec, hmm... that is fine. odd. do you need to use command-line, or are you able to mount from gnome?
[09:26] <Xlylith> oskude, it's magic.... everything works fine now after I strated evolution from terminal... strange?
[09:26] <tux75> well i did ifconfig eth0 down and i restart service by ifconfig eth0 up and route add..
[09:26] <netcrusher88> so does gparted regularly take >10 minutes to resize a fat32 partition?
[09:26] <tux75> but it doesn't work..
[09:26] <quacker> tux75, do you have adesktop or just CLIs?
[09:26] <oskude> Xlylith, O.o :)
[09:26] <Xlylith> oskude, oh no... it hung again
[09:26] <raphink> tux75: stopping and starting an interface might not be enough to set it up ;)
[09:27] <oskude> Xlylith, :(
[09:27] <tux75> a desktop. and now im working on slackware to connect
[09:27] <netcrusher88> !dhcp
[09:27] <ubotu> netcrusher88: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:27] <netcrusher88> oh
[09:27] <netcrusher88> hmm
[09:27] <netcrusher88> !gparted
[09:27] <ubotu> netcrusher88: Not a clue
[09:27] <netcrusher88> !parted
[09:27] <ubotu> it has been said that parted is a GNU program for creating, destroying, resizing, checking and copying partitions.  http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html
[09:28] <cenopec> well i am running ubuntu, and i get an error when i try and mount from the browser
[09:28] <cenopec> so i figured i could do it from terminal
[09:28] <soothsayer> bleh.. now azureus isn't working
[09:28] <WildPenguin> cenopec, what exactly was the error?
[09:28] <quacker> tux75, do you have kde, gnome, xfce, icewm... what?
[09:28] <tux75> gnome.
[09:28] <Xlylith> oskude, (evolution:8144): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed
[09:28] <boo> where do my xchat logs go?
[09:29] <bunnynhb> Hello, How do I make sure if the modem is working in Ubuntu5.10?
[09:29] <oskude> Xlylith, dosnt sound helpfull to me, sry
[09:29] <cenopec> unable to mount volume: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[09:29] <oskude> Xlylith, try google
[09:30] <Xlylith> oskude, It seems that the message is way too large to my system (512MB RAM !!!)
[09:30] <frogzo1> cenopec: is this floppy formatted?
[09:30] <oskude> Xlylith, hmm
[09:30] <Xlylith> oskude, ok
[09:30] <cenopec> yeah
[09:30] <liquidboy> how do i change the permissions of my mounted ntfs partition?
[09:30] <cenopec> the disk has worked pleanty of times
[09:30] <boo> I have a .img file on a mounted windows partition, how can i mount it?
[09:30] <YukiIkyuta> liquidboy: you'll have to remount it.
[09:31] <cenopec> the light is on whether there is a disk in it or not
[09:31] <cenopec> if that helps
[09:31] <YukiIkyuta> first umount it.
[09:31] <boo> im trying to use "mount -t iso9660 /media/hdc1/Documents and Settings/Boo/Desktop/moviez/Burnable/Star Wars Sexogy/bizzare-starwars3.img
[09:31] <boo> " but it says only root can do that
[09:31] <frogzo1> cenopec: wayhey - i get the same problem!
[09:31] <YukiIkyuta> then: mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever
[09:31] <YukiIkyuta> the `-o umask=0222' sets thepermissions correctly.
[09:31] <oskude> boo, try "sudo mount ...."
[09:32] <quacker> tux75, I'm logged into kde RN, but perhaps the network tools are in similar places -- in any case most gtked things are starable from a console if they're in your path...  Try 'looking under Gnome Panel Button' --> 'Utilities' --> 'networking'
[09:32] <WildPenguin> cenopec, yeah, i get that too - but only with some floppy disks
[09:32] <boo> it brings up the mount help file
[09:32] <YukiIkyuta> boo: that's also an incomplete command, under most circumstances.
[09:32] <liquidboy> YukiTkyuta, cheers
[09:32] <boo> what am i missing?
[09:32] <oskude> boo, and if your command looks exactly like that, i doubt that it works
[09:32] <tux75> quacker, ok, and then?
[09:32] <YukiIkyuta> boo: as oskude just said, you're not mounting that image -on- anywhere.
[09:33] <quacker> Well open it... =P
[09:33] <cenopec> how do you unmount
[09:33] <boo> oh
[09:33] <zcat[1] > boo: You're missing some ""'s or \'s and a mountpoint
[09:33] <bunnynhb> I guess a modem problemis low priority around here.
[09:33] <cenopec> command
[09:33] <YukiIkyuta> zcat[1] : that too!
[09:33] <quacker> (It'll probably invoke gksudo)
[09:33] <oskude> cenopec, umount
[09:33] <YukiIkyuta> cenopec: umount [device/path/anything] 
[09:33] <IaMaBoT> command not found
[09:33] <zcat[1] > Documents\ and\ Settings
[09:33] <zcat[1] > etc..
[09:33] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: what's your modem problem?
[09:33] <Xlylith> oskude, do you know how to configure evolution from outside (i.e terminal). I want to turn off the preview. I suspect it's the problem.
[09:34] <oskude> boo, rewrite your line and use [tab]  key to complete your paths
[09:34] <frogzo1> cenopec: umount /dev/fd0
[09:34] <oskude> Xlylith, sry, never done that. i would google...
[09:34] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: bunnynhb bunnynhb bunnynhb - what's your problem!!!
[09:34] <bunnynhb> frogzo1:  I'm wanting to find out how to test a modem that's suppose to be installed.
[09:34] <oskude> Xlylith, but you could start with "man evolution" and see if any usefull startup flags there
[09:35] <tux75> ok, i ask now because im in slackware at the moment (ubuntu don't connect!)
[09:35] <intelikey> bunnynhb wvdial
[09:35] <cenopec> k this doesnt make any sense, why cant i mount my floppy
[09:35] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: is this an internal modem? plugged in a pci slot?
[09:35] <frogzo1> !floppy
[09:35] <ubotu> from memory, floppy is flop, flop, flop..
[09:35] <bunnynhb> Yes.
[09:35] <intelikey> bunnynhb wvdialconf  to be more specific
[09:35] <boo> it says its not a block device when i do sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/0\ GB\ Disk\ \(hdc1\)/Documents\ and\ Settings/Boo/Desktop/moviez/Burnable/Star\ Wars\ Sexogy/bizarre-starwars3.img /mnt
[09:35] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it's not one!
[09:35] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: check on the box - does it say "winmodem" - or supports ONLY windows OS
[09:36] <boo> whats a block device?
[09:36] <boo> lol
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> boo: iso9660 wants a block device.
[09:36] <zcat[1] > boo: -o loop
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> boo: as in, a real CD ROM drive.
[09:36] <boo> oh
[09:36] <boo> i get it..i think
[09:36] <boo> is there any way to insert in terminal?
[09:36] <oskude> Xlylith, oh, i dont have any man for evolition... try "evolution --help"
[09:36] <oskude> *evolution
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> boo: as zcat[1]  said, add `-o loop'
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> ie. sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/.........
[09:37] <bunnynhb> frogzo1:  I'm in microsoft os right now.
[09:37] <boo> omg
[09:37] <boo> it worked
[09:37] <YukiIkyuta> boo: great!
[09:37] <boo> thats the first thing ive ever done in terminal
[09:37] <boo> woot
[09:37] <YukiIkyuta> you know have the Star Wars Sexogy at your command!
[09:37] <ryan_> anybody want to help a newbie get java working?
[09:37] <bunnynhb> frogzo1:  I have to reboot to loginto linux.
[09:37] <oskude> boo, congratz :)
[09:37] <ryan_> errr java plugin for firefox
[09:37] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: most internal modems are winmodems - and they only work with windows drivers
[09:37] <YukiIkyuta> !tell ryan_ about java
[09:38] <frogzo1> !tell Ryan about java
[09:38] <oskude> sorry, im a java no-no :)
[09:38] <frogzo1> !tell ryan_ about java
[09:38] <YukiIkyuta> frogzo1: already done. xP
[09:38] <quacker> frogzo1, there is a package for running winmodems under Linux now (I just saw it while reading packages descriptions using Synaptic -- no idea if it actually works worth a drop of spit, though)
[09:38] <frogzo1> quacker: hot damn
[09:38] <boo> lolol now how to play .vob files because totem wont
[09:38] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: Smartlink has Linux drivers and Ubuntu seems to have auto installed them.
[09:39] <sword> hey
[09:39] <oskude> !dvd
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[09:39] <sword> has anyone tried the new mozilla?
[09:39] <YukiIkyuta> sword: which one?
[09:39] <sword> err firefox 1.5
[09:39] <intelikey> bunnynhb from the terminal in your linux system run 'wvdialconf modem' if it is not a winmodem it will detect it and give all the useful information, as well as writing a config file called 'modem'
[09:39] <YukiIkyuta> there's not a build for my system that'll work.
[09:39] <YukiIkyuta> I'm considering building from source, but it's 330MiB. o_O
[09:40] <boo> !libdvdcss2
[09:40] <ubotu> from memory, libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[09:40] <intelikey> you may need to sudo that
[09:41] <ryan_> ok so when I type sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 I get this crap -> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:41] <ryan_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:41] <ryan_> is only available from another source
[09:41] <ryan_> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[09:41] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: I have also downloaded 2 files and ubuntu says that's all I need to install them.
[09:41] <Geeek> can anybody help me installing ubuntu?
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: have you selected universe/multiverse as sources as well?
[09:42] <ryan_> yes
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> Yes, Geeek, what's the problem?
[09:42] <boo> geeek i did it yesterday, it pretty much did everything by itself for me
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: apt-get update'd too?
[09:42] <ryan_> is this possibly because I was trying to install JRE 5.0  Update 6 earlier?
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: it's not likely.
[09:42] <quacker> frogzo1, unless one is very poor and with no access to (real) recycled/thrown away/donated hardware, I would recommend just tossing any winmodem back in the scrap bin.
[09:43] <ryan_> how do I check if apt-get is updated?
[09:43] <Xlylith> oskude, done :-) I knew it :-)
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: well, you can just run it, and see what happens.
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> Just type ``apt-get update''.
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> (sudo, if need be)
[09:43] <Xlylith> oskude, done :-) I knew it :-)
[09:43] <Xlylith> oskude, I try gnome config editor and it worked well
[09:43] <ryan_> ok it's updating
[09:43] <Geeek> yuki can in query?
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> sure.
[09:44] <oskude> Xlylith, nice
[09:44] <Xlylith> oskude, I turned off the preview and evolution went smooth
[09:44] <ryan_> same deal as before
[09:44] <oskude> Xlylith, well done :)
[09:44] <Xlylith> oskude, thanks for your help, bye, ubuntu is great :-))
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: very peculiar. The page doesn't say any more on the matter?
[09:45] <oskude> Xlylith, your welcome, bye :)
[09:45] <quacker> I have a pile of modems up to a Motorola Bitsurfer ISDN-U that I might be willing to donate to the right users if shipping is paid (or very cheap).
[09:45] <boo> Ok, i ran the libdvdread3 install.sh file, it ended on setting up libdvdcss2.  now that its installed, what do i do?
[09:45] <ryan_> what do you mean by the page?
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> !tell ryan_ about java
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> The page you're being linked to now.
[09:45] <quacker> boo, do actually *have* libdvdcss2 ?
[09:45] <ryan_> well I did the first step and I got the error message
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: you're sure that multiverse is a source?
[09:46] <boo> i think so, it said the libdvdread3 folder wouldnt be tehre if i didnt
[09:46] <quacker> It's a kind of obscure package due to the Copyright Nazis.
[09:46] <intelikey> !repos
[09:46] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:46] <ryan_> i have all repositories that Synaptic will let me do
[09:46] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:47] <quacker> ryan_, Synaptic will let yo 'do' just about anything.
[09:47] <boo> HAHAHA this is so funny, im playing a single .vob file and its skipping into 4 different languages
[09:47] <ryan_> yeah i'm pretty new to linux so it'll take me a second
[09:47] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: no problems.
[09:47] <ryan_> quacker, i meant all the repositories shown by ubuntu
[09:48] <boo> quacker, the actual dvd video files are playing, but the menu doesnt work. when i try to open the  videots.vob file, nothing happens
[09:48] <quacker> Past bedtime for me, goodnight all.
[09:48] <YukiIkyuta> Goodnight.
[09:48] <boo> bye
[09:48] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, that was all academic, it would seem the pen drive was in fact a fake!
[09:48] <quacker> boo, you didn't mention libdvdnav (needed for menu functions)
[09:48] <boo> oh
[09:48] <boo> hmm
[09:49] <boo> hmm this doesnt have an install.sh file, only a fellowship.map file
[09:49] <oskude> boo, did you ask about wheres xchats chat log file ?
[09:49] <boo> and i have no idea what .maps are
[09:49] <boo> yeah
[09:50] <oskude> boo, you have to activate it first in preferences, then they will be in ".xchat2/xchatlogs/"
[09:50] <quacker> ryan_, from a 'paranoid' PoV there *may* be security issues from breezey-backports /universe, since you are no longer getting security updates from Debian and Ubuntu generally doesn't update them
[09:50] <quacker> Really the go now...
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[09:50] <ryan_> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/
[09:50] <oskude> that ".xchat2/xchatlogs/" being in your home folder so correctly "~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/"
[09:50] <quacker> !pastebin
[09:50] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:50] <ryan_> so backports aren't the best idea then?
[09:51] <ryan_> sorry
[09:51] <quacker> ryan_,  soemoen else will answer that -- and tech you how to use a pastebin site too I HOPE -- *poof*
[09:52] <boo> What are .map files YukiIkyuta ?
[09:52] <bunnynhb> Where is the fastest server to get j2re1.4?
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it depends, they could do anything.
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> boo: can you pastebin some of it?
[09:53] <boo> is it an executable?
[09:53] <oskude> bunnynhb, "fastes" is related to your and the files location...
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> boo: typically no, but I could be surprised.
[09:53] <boo> hmm.. whats the terminal command for extract?
[09:54] <raphink> extract what boo ?
[09:54] <bunnynhb> oskude: I'm connected via 56k modem. Doing this to get ubuntu on the net.
[09:54] <intelikey> !tar
[09:54] <ubotu> intelikey: I haven't a clue
[09:54] <ahoora> is it necessary to install an antivirus?
[09:54] <raphink> ahoora: you might put one, but it's not necessary
[09:54] <boo> theres a .gz file of a .map file but i cant extract it because i dont have permission
[09:54] <oskude> bunnynhb, i think most of the major download sources will deliver your max bandwith :)
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> boo: give yourself them!
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> boo: sudo.
[09:55] <ahoora> raphink windows without antivirus and firewall has no meaning .. linux is not like that is it? i think there is not many viruses or attacks for linux?
[09:55] <ryan_> ok YukiIkyuta I did the pastebin
[09:55] <boo> ok i have sudo gunzip (path).  if i dnot specify a path, does it extract it do the same folder?
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora: currect.
[09:56] <raphink> ahoora: I think about 10 viruses known in total in the whole linux history, most of them not dangerous.
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it doesn't `extract' it - a gz is just one compressed file.
[09:56] <intelikey> !tar
[09:56] <ubotu> somebody said tar was ,,, to extract tar archives that are gzipped/bz2zipped use 'tar -xzf <file.tgz> '  or  'tar -xjf <flie.bz2> '  respectivly.
[09:56] <raphink> ahoora: settings a firewall and controlling your pots is always a good thing, but having an antivirus under linux is more of a matter of protecting your windows mates
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> intelikey: that's tar, not gz.
[09:56] <raphink> ahoora: you do not need an antivirus to protect your own linux box
[09:57] <desplesda> can anyone help me with a crashing dpkg?
[09:57] <raphink> desplesda: can you paste the output in a pastebin?
[09:57] <desplesda> i'm trying to install libode but dpkg segfaults
[09:57] <boo> sudo gunzip /usr/share/doc/libdvdnav4/examples/FELLOWSHIP.map.gz
[09:57] <boo>   will that work?
[09:57] <ahoora> raphink i am afraid i loose my internal network if i install a firewall ... i am not familiar with them
[09:57] <ahoora> i share the internet for others at home
[09:57] <raphink> ahoora: then don't ;) and that's ok
[09:58] <boo> oh
[09:58] <raphink> ahoora: adopt a good passwd policy, don't open weak server
[09:58] <boo> woot it worked
[09:58] <raphink> servers
[09:58] <YukiIkyuta> boo: yup!
[09:58] <desplesda> raphink:  http://pastebin.com/444668
[09:58] <boo> wtf
[09:58] <boo> # The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (Widescreen Theatrical Release)
[09:58] <boo> domain 8, title 1, program 1, start 0x0000, end 0x1f0a   # Introduction
[09:58] <boo> the file is a LOTR menu file?
[09:59] <boo> ....
[09:59] <YukiIkyuta> It's an example menu file, I suppose.
[09:59] <ahoora> raphink if i want to install a firewall what do you recommend?
[09:59] <desplesda> ahoora:  i quite like firestarter, but that's just me
[09:59] <raphink> ahoora: I recomment getting a router dedicated to it ;)
[10:00] <raphink> why do you need this lib desplesda ?
[10:00] <ahoora> desplesda i installed firestarter but it destroyed my internal network :|
[10:00] <ahoora> so i removed it
[10:00] <oskude> ahoora, destroyed ?
[10:01] <desplesda> raphink:  i want to play around with ogre3d's support for the ode physics lib?
[10:01] <ahoora> i mean i couldn't share the internet for others at home
[10:01] <Locke> how do i install a theme for IceWM?
[10:01] <mapleba1> greetings. (love 5.10, but couple of questions) -- trying to vpn connect via vpnc, but it's prompting for IPSec ID and secret...values I haven't needed before (as far as I know). Are there standard values for these or assigned at the cisco vpn gateway level?
[10:01] <boo> on http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/dvd/  there are 3 dvdnavs, how do i know which one to get.
[10:01] <raphink> desplesda: it seems there's a pb with this package. report this bug and if you want to install it, try to build it
[10:01] <oskude> ahoora, maybe cause your firewall did what it was supposed to do ?
[10:01] <liable> ahoora: try shorewall, theres good docs for nat on there site.
[10:02] <desplesda> raphink:  pb standing for package bug, yes?
[10:02] <raphink> desplesda: yes
[10:02] <desplesda> raphink:  thanks :)
[10:02] <ahoora> okude of course it did but i didn't know how to configure it too lol
[10:02] <Locke> does anyone know how to install a theme for IceWM?
[10:02] <ahoora> thank luable
[10:02] <raphink> desplesda: do you have more output after these lines?
[10:02] <liable> heh, that gives my nick a hawiian feel :)
[10:03] <desplesda> raphink:  no, that's all i get
[10:03] <raphink> hmm then maybe no ...
[10:03] <ahoora> i got one more(may be funny) question : is learning linux depends on the knowledge about C programming?
[10:03] <desplesda> ahoora:  absolutely not
[10:03] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora: no.
[10:03] <oskude> ahoora, nope
[10:03] <brice_> yes
[10:03] <oskude> lol
[10:03] <intelikey> no
[10:03] <brice_> :)
[10:03] <desplesda> lol
[10:03] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora: but *it* can help.
[10:03] <raphink> desplesda: can you try dpkg --configure -a ?
[10:03] <YukiIkyuta> it *can*, even!
[10:04] <raphink> ahoora: no
[10:04] <boo> !cvs
[10:04] <ubotu> well, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:04] <YukiIkyuta> !svn
[10:04] <desplesda> no output, returns 0
[10:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:04] <YukiIkyuta> w00t.
[10:04] <liable> bah, crap, there is absolutely no need to know C to admin linux.
[10:04] <ahoora> so the only thing i need is to open a linux book and start right?
[10:04] <raphink> desplesda: no crash?
[10:04] <desplesda> no crash
[10:05] <boo> If i am downloading dvdnav from here http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/dvd/libdvdnav2/ is it usual practice to download all the files individually? and how do i know which dvdnav to get
[10:05] <desplesda> ahoora:  yes, but it helps if it's a recent book
[10:05] <oskude> ahoora, and learn about partitions and MBR...
[10:05] <ahoora> so could you plz introduce me a good source?
[10:05] <raphink> boo: why do you download dvdnav ? can't you just install it ?
[10:05] <raphink> ahoora: never used a linux book ;)
[10:06] <ahoora> raphink so how did you learn linux ? lol
[10:06] <boo> i dont know if i have it?
[10:06] <oskude> ahoora, sry, i allso tried to find a good "newbie" intro to partitions... im making one, but im so lazy :)
[10:06] <raphink> ahoora: by practicing, and with the help of others
[10:06] <boo> ok SPM says libdvdnav4 is installed
[10:06] <raphink> and with google ;)
[10:06] <desplesda> ahoora:  most of us just learned by playing with it until we were comfortable with it
[10:06] <intelikey> ahoora 'man man'
[10:06] <raphink> ahoora: you can learn a lot from tutorials on the internet
[10:07] <raphink> boo: did you try to apt-cache search dvdnav ?
[10:07] <boo> uhhhhh
[10:07] <bunnynhb> Is Ubuntu creating an addon CD? I could use one instead of downloading dependancies upon dependancies using microsoft OS.
[10:07] <boo> way over my head lol
[10:07] <raphink> boo: do you know synaptic ?
[10:07] <anavim> I uninstalled gdm because I'm using fluxbox and don't need it, and all my virtual terminals are now gone. Trying to invoke getty from cli doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[10:07] <boo> sorta
[10:07] <boo> the box is green in packman (pack man is what its called right)
[10:07] <raphink> boo: then see if you can find dvdnav on it
[10:08] <syok> hentai
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> syok: agreeably!
[10:08] <desplesda> syok:  indeed
[10:08] <boo> what does that mean
[10:08] <ahoora> yeah i know i learnt dos and windows like that but those two were easy :|
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> I wonder ...
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> !henta
[10:08] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> !hentai
[10:08] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: Are you smoking crack?
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> Damn.
[10:08] <intelikey> lol  'man woman'  output.   "there is no command line interface for a woman"    :)
[10:08] <raphink> ahoora: linux is not more difficult at all
[10:09] <syok> yoyo
[10:09] <Locke> what is a bittorent client?
[10:09] <boo> legal kazaa =/
[10:09] <oskude> ahoora, i find this not so "newbie" friendly but if you master this, you can easily master linux :) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
[10:09] <anavim> intelikey, that's not what I get when I type "man woman"  :P
[10:09] <ahoora> raphink but it seems like an ocean
[10:09] <syok> close
[10:09] <intelikey> anavim different distro
[10:10] <ahoora> thanks oskude
[10:10] <syok> -close
[10:10] <desplesda> Locke:  a bittorrent client is a program that downloads files using the bittorrent protocol
[10:10] <boo> YukiIkyuta, or raphink, all i know is that libdvdnav4 is green in packman.
[10:10] <Locke> desplesda: yes... i know...
[10:10] <raphink> boo: what is packman?
[10:10] <ryan_> great
[10:10] <Locke> desplesda: what is a GOOD client
[10:10] <boo> synaptic package manger
[10:10] <jkgljsd> ! raid
[10:10] <ubotu> hmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[10:10] <boo> i thought it was called packman
[10:10] <raphink> ah ok
[10:10] <bunnynhb> Could someone build a kde compressed file so I could get just one file instead of many small ones at 56k.
[10:10] <desplesda> Locke:  oh lol, you said 'what is a bittorrent client', not 'what is a good bittorrent client' :P
[10:10] <ryan_> Yuki, how do I uninstall something?
[10:10] <raphink> well then it's installed I guess boo
[10:11] <raphink> boo: its called synaptic
[10:11] <boo> oh
[10:11] <boo> :P
[10:11] <Locke> the default bittorrent client SUCKS, i need a better one
[10:11] <raphink> boo: pacman is the archlinux package manager
[10:11] <jkgljsd> ! repos
[10:11] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:11] <boo> i try opening a video_ts.vob file, but nothing happens.
[10:11] <anavim> bunnynhb, the files coming from synaptic are compressed already
[10:11] <desplesda> boo: if you want to watch dvds, then you should open it with a media player (i use totem)
[10:12] <boo> yes thats what im using
[10:12] <boo> when i open videots.vob with totem, the screen is black
[10:12] <desplesda> no, don't do that, go to Movie > Play Disc
[10:12] <boo> this is a mounted disk
[10:12] <Geeek> can anybody help me installing ubuntu?
[10:12] <boo> not a physical disk
[10:12] <anavim> intelikey, reminds me of the "make love" joke on cli
[10:12] <boo> what do you need help with Geeek
[10:13] <bunnynhb> anavim: I'm having problems finding out what all I need and at 56k withmany files it get's tedious.  I need justone file.
[10:13] <intelikey> :(
[10:13] <intelikey> :)
[10:13] <oskude> Geeek, are you doing a dualboot setup ?
[10:13] <boo> oh
[10:13] <Geeek> asku, i need to do that
[10:13] <boo> nvm it works :o
[10:14] <Geeek> i'm installing on a pc working with xp
[10:14] <Geeek> i have 3 partitions
[10:14] <boo> geeek i just installed ubuntu, and it did a dual boot automatically
[10:14] <oskude> Geeek, maste this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/intro.html (sry, dont know easier way, yet)
[10:14] <oskude> *master
[10:14] <anavim> bunnynhb, if there are lots of dependencies needed to install, you won't be able to skip them
[10:15] <Geeek> i already have 3 partions: 1. xp 2. swap 3. for linux
[10:15] <bunnynhb> anavim: I was just hoping someone could put all of them into one easy downloadable fiole.
[10:15] <bunnynhb> file.
[10:16] <boo> Ok next challenge....TV out with my x700 pro
[10:16] <anavim> bunnynhb, ah
[10:17] <intelikey> geeek just install normal and when it prompts about partitions choose manuel partitioning and select the partition you have made for linux, remove it. make a new one ext3, use as / , and select format.  badabing.
[10:17] <bunnynhb> anavim: I aamdownloading in microsoft OS and amattempting to get Linux on the net to use apt-get.
[10:17] <anavim> bunnynhb, your best best, imho, is to leave it overnight while it downloads and installs.. I've had to do similar things downloading oracle 9i (300MB) over 56k modem  :D
[10:17] <grayman> !essential
[10:17] <ubotu> grayman: I give up, what is it?
[10:17] <grayman> bah
[10:18] <rapha> Hi
[10:18] <bunnynhb> anavim: I am downloading in microsoft OS.
[10:18] <rapha> Can somebody help me configure Samba?
[10:18] <grayman> erm
[10:18] <grayman> what was the command to install essentials?
[10:18] <rapha> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:19] <intelikey> geeek only thing you need to know is which partition it is and read all that the installer puts on the screen.....  peace of cake.
[10:19] <grayman> thanks
[10:19] <anavim> bunnynhb, you've tried cygwin?
[10:19] <oskude_> and to know that "C:\" is NOT a partition ;)
[10:19] <boo> lol
[10:19] <boo> !tvout
[10:19] <ubotu> boo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:19] <bunnynhb> anavim: I need to get my smartmodem working in Linux to use apt-get. It's the  only modem that works where I'm at.
[10:20] <bunnynhb> anavim: cygwin?
[10:20] <rapha> I can't get a Samba share set-up that Windows can connect to as a specific user
[10:20] <anavim> bunnynhb, cygwin makes life on windows easier
[10:20] <rapha> Only thing that works is guest/guest
[10:20] <T80U> hey
[10:20] <bunnynhb> anavim: What is cygwin?
[10:21] <eViL_> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu comes with drivers for the Intel Pro Wireless 2200 BG or where I can find a hardware compatibility list ?
[10:21] <Juhaz> it does
[10:22] <anavim> bunnynhb, it's a linux-like environment for windows, http://www.cygwin.com/
[10:22] <eViL_> cygwin is a linux implementation in windows
[10:22] <eViL_> is ubuntu fast ?
[10:22] <Juhaz> cygwin is definitely not a linux implementation in any sense of the word
[10:22] <intelikey> it's dosemu in reverse...
[10:22] <bunnynhb> anavim: I want Linux seperate.
[10:22] <oskude_> eViL_, define "fast" :)
[10:22] <anavim> Juhaz, that's what the very start of cygwin.com describes it as
[10:23] <eViL_> sory, it was the first thing it came to my head
[10:23] <eViL_> fast...
[10:23] <eViL_> how long it takes to boot ?
[10:23] <boo> For anyone who can help, I have a ati x700 card with svideo out. i had svideo working on windows. where would i set up tv out in ubuntu
[10:23] <Juhaz> anavim, I wasn't referring you your comment, but eViL_'s, "linux-like" is quite different than "linux implementation"
[10:23] <anavim> Juhaz, oh, whoops you were replying to eViL_
[10:23] <eViL_> i have an AtiRadeon Mobility 9700
[10:24] <Mabus06> How come when I play Diablo 3 on ubuntu the sound is incredibly choppy? Is there something I could do that would be a likely fix?
[10:24] <oskude_> boo, check ubuntuforums.org (i ve seen threads, but not read them:)
[10:24] <T80U> Im having problems setting up SQL i keep getting this error #1045 - Access denied for user: 'user@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[10:24] <boo> eViL_, it takes longer for me to enter my password than it does to boot
[10:24] <bunnynhb> There is a Diablo 3?
[10:24] <oskude_> boo, i remember having an "ati button" in my menu after installing fglrx drivers
[10:24] <Mabus06> Uh.....
[10:24] <ryan_> he meant 2 I'm sure
[10:24] <T80U> does anyone know anything about that error?
[10:25] <Mabus06> How come when I play Doom 3 on ubuntu the sound is incredibly choppy? Is there something I could do that would be a likely fix?
[10:25] <eViL_> nice... i'll try ubuntu...
[10:25] <oskude_> boo, and there was something to activate tvout... i use radeon now...
[10:25] <ryan_> or that
[10:25] <mustard5> Mabus06, you on Cedega?
[10:25] <Mabus06> No, I'm tired.. lol ryan_ , bungle
[10:25] <Mabus06> bunnynhb, i mean
[10:25] <mustard5> Mabus06, ah ok
[10:25] <Mabus06> No this is a linux port
[10:25] <eViL_> and does Kubuntu already come with Kde 3.5 ?
[10:25] <oskude_> T80U, as it sais, access denied...
[10:25] <Mabus06> It's a linux version of the game, works just fine for the video (even with my low grade video card)
[10:26] <boo> do you have a sound card?
[10:26] <Mabus06> but the audio sounds very.... "robotic"
[10:26] <Mabus06> Yes I do
[10:26] <Mabus06> Soundblaster Live 5.1
[10:26] <oskude_> wtf, brb
[10:26] <T80U> anyone at all?
[10:26] <T80U> ow come when I play Doom 3 on ubuntu the sound is incredibly choppy? Is there something I could do that would be a likely fix
[10:26] <T80U> oops
[10:26] <T80U> my bad
[10:26] <Mabus06> heh
[10:26] <Mabus06> same problem? :D
[10:26] <T80U> me = noob
[10:26] <T80U> lol
[10:26] <boo> i bet im noober than you
[10:27] <T80U> i cant even get SQL working on Ubuntu....
[10:27] <boo> i dont know what sql is
[10:27] <mustard5> T80U, its not the first time I have seen that question asked :)
[10:27] <T80U> keeps saying #1045 - Access denied for user: 'user@localhost' (Using password: NO
[10:27] <anavim> boo, structured query language (database)
[10:28] <Mabus06> So anyone with any ideas as to why Doom 3 would have such choppy sound?
[10:28] <Mabus06> Like ridiculously choppy, even though the video works fine.
[10:28] <mustard5> T80U, when I had that problem I found some answers via google
[10:28] <eViL_> -------> Does Kubuntu come with KDE 3.5 already ?
[10:28] <Mabus06> And I have a relatively good sound card. (better than my video card)
[10:28] <Geeek> can anybody help me installing ubuntu?
[10:28] <crimsun> Mabus06: using plughw:0 ?
[10:28] <Jube> hey... I got a real stupid questoin here, but could someone please lend me a hand?
[10:28] <bunnynhb> anavim: If Ubuntu shows my modem installed, is it really installed?  I've had problems with other linux OSs.
[10:28] <oskude_> wtf, oskude is here ? i logged out with it ?!?!
[10:29] <anavim> bunnynhb, I haven't used a modem on ubuntu, sorry
[10:29] <boo> :O HAX
[10:29] <T80U> yeah - i tried seraching and found that mysql -u root -p
[10:29] <Mabus06> crimsun, no idea
[10:29] <Mabus06> Jube, never ask to ask questions. Ask questions.
[10:29] <T80U> but it dosent seem to work : |
[10:29] <intelikey> bunnynhb have you ran wvdialconf ?
[10:29] <onispawn> Mabus06: there was a post in the forum about that said something about running the command `doom3 +set s_device oss` to play
[10:29] <Jube> lol
[10:29] <oskude_> well, gotta wait until it timeouts...swt
[10:29] <Mabus06> onispawn, thank you very much, I will try that after crimsun says whatever he was gonna say
[10:29] <anavim> Mabus06, reminds me of Carmack talking about how they now had spare cpu cycles so they would use it all on 3d surround sound... maybe related to your problem
[10:30] <Jube> I just got ubuntu yesterday in the mail. Where do i find the terminal/command line?
[10:30] <oskude_> juhuu^^
[10:30] <Mabus06> what, anavim ?
[10:30] <bunnynhb> anavim: I understand.  The help files online saysall I have to do is install 2 files and it's installed.
[10:30] <mustard5> oskude, if you you know the password you can reclaim it with ghost command I think
[10:30] <mustard5> nevermind :)
[10:30] <anavim> Mabus06, your CPU meets requirements for doom3?
[10:30] <Tidus> hooray for laptop taking about 10 minutes to boot
[10:31] <Mabus06> 2.8ghz? Didn't check but probably.
[10:31] <T80U> what graphics card are you using? (im just curious)
[10:31] <anavim> Mabus06, ok, probably not then
[10:31] <Geeek> osku can help one sec?
[10:31] <oskude> Geeek, sure, if i can
[10:31] <Mabus06> An onboard intel something... not very good. But the video works just fine.
[10:32] <Tidus> onboard intel anythings usually won't run doom3 worth anything
[10:32] <T80U> cool
[10:32] <Geeek> osku i have doubt whem i have to choose where install linux
[10:32] <Mabus06> Runs it just fine Tidus
[10:32] <T80U> argh i wish SQL would work
[10:32] <Tidus> Mabus06: then again, i wouldn't know... i have a nvidia GF4 Ti4200
[10:32] <Mabus06> Except for the sound. If it was gonna be choppy you'd think the video would be choppy.
[10:32] <WildPenguin> Jube, Applications -> accessories -> terminal - in gnome, or you can use ctrl+alt + (1-6) with ctrl + alt + 7 to get back to X
[10:32] <Geeek> osku i have many options (mount...etc) and not sure about what to do
[10:32] <bunnynhb> intelikey: I'm not in Linux.
[10:32] <onispawn> Mabus06: try that command I gave you. it fixed my sound issue I had for quake 4
[10:32] <oskude> Geeek, did you do backup of your data ?
[10:33] <Jube> thanks WildPenguin
[10:33] <Geeek> osku, i come from win xp so i don't know
[10:33] <Geeek> osku, i need to back up all?
[10:33] <Mabus06> I will onispawn, I was just listening to what people had to suggest while my query was still fresh.
[10:33] <Geeek> osku, i have 22 giga used
[10:33] <oskude> Geeek, when ever you mess with partitions, i would do backup
[10:33] <intelikey> Geeek  alt+f2   and run 'fdisk -l '  it will list the partitions and their fs types
[10:33] <bunnynhb> intelikey: I have to download files in microsoft os and reboot into linux.
[10:34] <oskude> Geeek, well, backup is not so common on desktop users...
[10:34] <Geeek> intelikey, i already have the swap and linux ready partitions
[10:34] <Geeek> osku, how can i backup, i mean the fastest solution?
[10:34] <oskude> Geeek, the minimal partitions for linux is, a "/" partition and a "swap" partition
[10:34] <intelikey> geeek yes i was telling you how to idintify them, from within the installer of ubuntu
[10:35] <intelikey> oskude swap is not mandatory
[10:35] <bunnynhb> intelikey: If Ubuntu shows my modem installed, is it really installed?  I've had problems with other linux OSs.
[10:35] <intelikey> minimal is /
[10:35] <oskude> Geeek, i use partimage with my rescuecd to backup partitions on another partitions, and save them all over my PCs, :)
[10:36] <oskude> intelikey, well, i wouldnt advice a newbie to install without swap...
[10:36] <Geeek> but i already have swap partition
[10:37] <intelikey> bunnynhb if you are asking if ubuntu is better than other linux distros, the answer is NO.   is it the latest release of most things, YES.
[10:37] <Nomikos> anyone know how to decompress .bin files? just downloaded an installer in that format
[10:37] <oskude> Geeek, swap is ok :)
[10:37] <Nomikos> preferably via the commandline
[10:37] <ryan_> can someone tell me what the multiverse repository URL is?
[10:37] <Nomikos> suggestions on java virtual machine under Ubuntu welcome as well
[10:37] <anavim> Nomikos, try executing it
[10:38] <onispawn> Nomikos: you can execute .bin files
[10:38] <oskude> Geeek, the you only need a "/" partition (ubuntu standard is ext3 format)
[10:38] <anavim> Nomikos, chmod +x foo.bin; ./foo.bin
[10:38] <intelikey> bunnynhb is there hardware that ubuntu doesn't know how to setup, YES unfortunatly there is.
[10:38] <Nomikos> who knew
[10:38] <Nomikos> thanks
[10:38] <Geeek> is that all i need to know?
[10:38] <anavim> Nomikos, yw
[10:38] <intelikey> !java
[10:38] <Geeek> what about the /mount options and so on?
[10:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:38] <oskude> Geeek, erm... no :)
[10:39] <Tidus> !tell Nomikos about java
[10:39] <oskude> Geeek, if you woulnt do a dualboot, it would be easier than windows, just let all auto...
[10:39] <ryan_> uboto I tried to do what that says but I get an error when I try to add java-package
[10:39] <intelikey> Geeek the defaults for / will be fine.
[10:39] <oskude> now you "have" to know http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/index.html
[10:40] <oskude> when it comes to "my windows wont start" :)
[10:40] <oskude> Geeek, but as intelikey said, the default for "/" will do
[10:40] <Mabus06> okay, update to the doom3 situation... tried with the command I was given but I got this error
[10:40] <Mabus06> idAudioHardwareALSA::Write: 4096 frames overflowed and dropped
[10:40] <Mabus06> many times in the terminal after I closed the game
[10:41] <Geeek> ok i see the website
[10:41] <Mabus06> But I thought it was supposed to make me use the OSS rather than ALSA?
[10:42] <boo> ok i was trying to use svideo out for my ati x700, and i searched ubuntuforms.org and i cant find anything
[10:42] <boo> any help?
[10:42] <oskude> boo, which dirvers have you installed ?
[10:42] <oskude> *drivers
[10:43] <boo> i dont think ive installed any drivers
[10:43] <Mabus06> ubotu, tell Jube about rootsudo
[10:43] <T80U> how does one setup MYSQL?
[10:43] <yasmina> hi
[10:43] <T80U> i keep getting access denied
[10:43] <intelikey> !root
[10:43] <ubotu> hmm... root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:43] <oskude> what does it say as driver in "/etc/X11/xorg,conf" ?
[10:43] <T80U> even when i just reinstall it
[10:43] <yasmina> I've got a problem with abiword on xfce
[10:44] <Mabus06> intelikey, what are you doing? lol
[10:44] <yasmina> it started printing 'test field text ($number updates)' without stopping
[10:44] <oskude> T80U, have you tried "mysql -u root -p" ?
[10:44] <T80U> yeah
[10:44] <T80U> i did that
[10:44] <intelikey> Mabus06 ?
[10:44] <T80U> and it still comes up with this error 1045 access denied using password yes
[10:44] <oskude> T80U, did you have the right password (dunno whats default:)
[10:44] <yasmina> I'm wondering if 1) this is a known bug; 2) there is an abiword cache somwhere where I can get the file before killing the app
[10:44] <T80U> uhh i think so
[10:44] <Mabus06> oskude, when I closed down doom 3 (still had choppy sound) in the terminal it was having ALSA errors, implying OSS wasn't being used.
[10:44] <T80U> i even tried just putting in nothing
[10:45] <T80U> still dosent work
[10:45] <yasmina> anyone?
[10:45] <Mabus06> intelikey, I did a query to ubotu to tell someone about rootsudo... why did you say !root ?
[10:45] <boo> under driver it says ati
[10:45] <boo> line 66
[10:45] <intelikey> checking the infonode
[10:45] <T80U> do you have any more ideas oskude?
[10:46] <oskude> boo, i doubt that the "ati" driver handles svideo out...
[10:46] <boo> are there vid. drivers for linux? i had omega drivers for windows
[10:46] <oskude> T80U, sec, ill install it too :)
[10:46] <oskude> !ati
[10:46] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:46] <T80U> yay, thanks champ
[10:47] <oskude> boo, there should be info on how to install the official ati drivers, and i remember seeing an ati button in menu after that (there was videout settings in there)
[10:48] <intelikey> hmmm gota work on a heater, bbl
[10:48] <oskude> T80U, hmm, i get in with "mysql -u root -p" and just pressing enter... hmm
[10:48] <T80U> yeah, for me it saying #1045 - Access denied for user: 'user@localhost' (Using password: NO
[10:48] <oskude> T80U, is this your first install of mysql-server ?
[10:48] <T80U> no
[10:49] <T80U> i think its the 3rd or 4th
[10:49] <T80U> been trying to get it working since this morning...
[10:49] <oskude> T80U, ok i just wanted to know if you have some data in db you dont wanna loose
[10:49] <ryan_> Anybody not busy that can help me figure out why I can't get java-package to install?
[10:49] <T80U> nah lol
[10:49] <T80U> it can get wiped
[10:50] <oskude> try "sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server" and installing again
[10:50] <T80U> thanks
[10:51] <T80U> okay
[10:51] <oskude> T80U, "--purge" means it should remove all configurations
[10:51] <T80U> cheers
[10:51] <oskude> T80U, works ?
[10:51] <ryan_> Ok can anyone tell me what this means then?  --->  E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:51] <T80U> its come up with a blue boxy thing that says
[10:52] <oskude> T80U, yup, remove all databases :)
[10:52] <T80U> should i remove all swl trees
[10:52] <T80U> oaky thanks
[10:52] <T80U> try and reinstall oskude?
[10:52] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me here, please?? My Doom 3 has choppy sound. Someone suggested a command that is supposed to use OSS instead of ALSA, but it didn't work as when I closed it I saw many ALSA errors in the terminal I executed doom 3 from. Please does anyone either know how to execute doom 3 using OSS, or another suggestion?
[10:53] <oskude> T80U, yup, now install it again
[10:53] <T80U> mabus06 - try looking at cache megs in the base config
[10:53] <T80U> cool
[10:54] <T80U> okay
[10:54] <T80U> oskude - it seems to be done
[10:54] <oskude> T80U, nice
[10:54] <T80U> try that command again?
[10:54] <rapha> Does nobody here know how to configure Samba?
[10:54] <oskude> T80U, yup. try login now
[10:54] <onispawn> Mabus06: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85560&highlight=doom+sound
[10:54] <Mabus06> T80U, cache megs in base config? What?
[10:55] <T80U> yes it works!
[10:55] <T80U> thank you oskude!
[10:55] <ryan_> oskude, can you help me now?
[10:55] <oskude> T80U, juhuu, your welcome
[10:55] <oskude> ryan_, whats up ?
[10:55] <T80U> thanks champ
[10:55] <ryan_> ok
[10:55] <oskude> in NO champ :)
[10:55] <oskude> *im
[10:55] <ryan_> when I type this ->
[10:56] <ryan_> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[10:56] <oskude> just a passioned linux user :)
[10:56] <Mabus06> onispawn, how do I change to OSS though? Your command seemed to not work, and I don't know of a "doom config"
[10:56] <T80U> mabus06 - i remember something about cache_megs? in the base config
[10:56] <ryan_> i get this  >
[10:56] <ryan_> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:56] <ryan_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:56] <ryan_> is only available from another source
[10:56] <ryan_> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:56] <T80U> it should be in base mabus06
[10:56] <oskude> !binpaste
[10:56] <ubotu> oskude: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:56] <oskude> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:56] <Hobbsee> !tell ryan_ about java
[10:56] <oskude> ryan_, sec, ill look to it
[10:56] <ryan_> yes yes i know
[10:57] <ryan_> It almost seems like I don't have a multiverse repository enabled but I enabled it
[10:57] <kane_> Is there a way to use a remote desktop under ubuntu /without/ a user already being logged in? It seems the vncd refuses connections then, and i can't find anything in the help pages that tell me how to change this
[10:57] <T80U> thanks again oskude
[10:57] <huhmz> kane_: NX
[10:57] <oskude> ryan_, its in in multiverse http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=j2re1.4&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[10:57] <oskude> read
[10:57] <oskude> !repos
[10:57] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:58] <kane_> huhmz: what's 'NX'?
[10:58] <kane_> an application? a file? a webpage? a way to tell me to sod off? ;)
[10:58] <oskude> ryan_, do "sudo apt-get update" in terminal
[10:58] <ryan_> awesome
[10:58] <Seveas> !tell kane_ about freenx
[10:58] <quitte> whats the name of unstable now?
[10:58] <huhmz> kane_: it's a remote desktop technology, you search the ubuntu forums, there is a apt repo in there somewhere
[10:58] <eliphas_> hello
[10:59] <ryan_> ok i did apt-get update
[10:59] <kane_> huhmz: ok.. this means the standard vnc configuration can not be made to do it i take it
[10:59] <ryan_> k
[10:59] <huhmz> kane_: i don't know, i never use vnc, NX is superior in every way
[10:59] <kane_> seveas: reading now, ta
[11:00] <oskude> ryan_, does "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4" work now?
[11:01] <ryan_> no, let me try this pastebin thing out
[11:01] <oskude> ryan_, roger, post the link then here
[11:01] <oskude> ryan_, and post your /etc/apt/source.list file too
[11:02] <ryan_> yeah did that
[11:02] <ryan_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444701
[11:02] <oskude> ryan_, roger, sec
[11:03] <intelikey> ryan_ version ?
[11:03] <oskude> ryan_, ok, your missing the "multiverse" reposity
[11:03] <ryan_> that's what I figured but I read the wiki on it
[11:03] <eliphas_> I have an issue with firefox i can't browse the net
[11:03] <eliphas_> when i ping demon.net or any other location it works fine
[11:04] <eliphas_> but not thru firefox
[11:04] <oskude> ryan_, you allready have two lines with "multiverse" in it, just uncomment them, "sudo apt-get update" and now you should be able to install
[11:04] <ryan_> ok let me try this
[11:04] <oskude> ryan_, wait
[11:05] <kane_> eliphas_ a ping is not quite the same as an http request. when you do 'telnet www.google.com 80' does that work for you?
[11:05] <oskude> ryan_, theres backport in it, i wouldnt advice to use it...
[11:05] <ryan_> yeah i took those out
[11:05] <ryan_> after someone advised
[11:06] <eliphas_> kane erf no i got a trying 1.0.0.0
[11:06] <kane_> eliphas_: you're not getting out through port 80 -- perhaps behind a proxy?
[11:06] <kane_> well, 'through'.. you get the drift
[11:07] <oskude> ryan_, so you dont have "backports" in any uncommented line ?
[11:07] <eliphas_> kane no here I am on my laptop and it is fine as you can tell but the new pc next to me isn't getting nowhere
[11:07] <ryan_> nope
[11:07] <Sonderblade> how do you make it so ubuntu automatically mounts floppies?
[11:08] <oskude> ryan_, ok, now you can "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"
[11:08] <kane_> eliphas_ hmm, that /is/ weird.. and hwen you ping any outside url, it pings the right IP, correct?
[11:08] <Firen> i want reinstall my second os and probably mbr will be overwrite, so i'm asking how to change(fix) mbr to ubuntu mbr with grub after intalation?
[11:09] <ryan_> same error msg
[11:09] <ryan_> but i uncommented the multiverse lines
[11:09] <ryan_> so i really do not understand why
[11:10] <oskude> ryan_, did you apt-get updgrade (did you get errors with that)?
[11:10] <oskude> hups
[11:10] <oskude> NO
[11:10] <ryan_> let me see if any errors
[11:10] <oskude> ryan_, apt-get update
[11:11] <oskude> ryan_, the complete command is "sudo apt-get update"
[11:11] <ryan_> yeah i know, no errors either time i tried that
[11:11] <eliphas_> kane yep
[11:11] <eliphas_>  weird
[11:11] <oskude> ryan_, ok, could you post your current sources.list
[11:11] <eliphas_> if I ping google it is ok
[11:11] <eliphas_> etc...
[11:12] <EvilPaddy> anyone know the Keystroke for the Euro symbol??
[11:12] <ryan_> ok one sec
[11:12] <intelikey> Sonderblade you can use supermount if it is installed, by adding this line to your /etc/fstab 'none /media/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,rw,--,,sync,umask=0 0 0 '  that is one way.
[11:12] <eliphas_> EvilPaddy try alt-gr 4
[11:12] <oskude> EvilPaddy, on german keyboard its [altctrl] +[e] 
[11:13] <kane_> eliphas_: then i'm a bit stumped.. i'm not getting why 'telnet google.com 80' would give you another IP then
[11:13] <mcphail> eliphas_: kane_: a few people have asked about this on this channel before. The issue was usually resolved by changing the order of DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:13] <mcphail> (don't ask me why...)
[11:13] <ryan_> Oskude, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444710
[11:13] <kane_> mcphail: that sounds reasonable if both telnet /and/ ping would get it wrong.. but hey, it's worth a shot
[11:13] <eliphas_> mcpahail ok I look at the issue
[11:13] <eliphas_> mcphail ok I look at the issue
[11:13] <mcphail> kane_: no - ping always worked
[11:14] <kane_> mcphail: that's Weird (with a capital W) ;)
[11:14] <oskude> ryan_, hmm, strange... looks good ...
[11:14] <mcphail> as i said, don't ask me why!
[11:14] <intelikey> hmmm does ub not have supermount ?
[11:14] <ryan_> i just realized that my backport is still uncommented though
[11:14] <eliphas_> lol worth to get a haggis at lunch time if it works
[11:14] <oskude> ryan_, yup :)
[11:14] <EvilPaddy> eliphas_, Cheers, that works
[11:14] <topyli> intelikey: no, but it does mount stuff automatically
[11:15] <topyli> intelikey: supermount is pretty much mandrake's own hobby
[11:15] <oskude> ryan_, change that "breezy-backports" to "breezy" on both lines
[11:15] <intelikey> topyli hal ?
[11:15] <ryan_> ok
[11:15] <intelikey> hotplug ?
[11:15] <eliphas_> :) At least I helped someone in my disarray
[11:15] <eliphas_> :)
[11:15] <oskude> ryan_, mines look like this "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe main restricted multiverse"
[11:15] <topyli> intelikey: gnome-volume-manager. i guess it works though hal magic in its innyrds
[11:16] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me to start doom3 using OSS? I've tried a few things but I sort of need to explain a few details, but let me know if you're willing to help please. Help would be appreciated!
[11:16] <ryan_> i'll add that and see if it helps
[11:16] <intelikey> but that doesn't work in console topyli
[11:16] <boo> hey oskude
[11:16] <crimsun> Mabus06: doesn't doom3 support ALSA natively?
[11:16] <Kimppa> Umm. Hi. Something weird just happened to me. I had around 150 mb free space on hda1, so I moved a 1,1 GB file to hda2, however, the when I run "df -h", the free space on hda1 hasn't increased o_O
[11:16] <ryan_> hmmmm
[11:16] <boo> i installed the flgrx drivers...what now
[11:16] <Kimppa> and yes, I moved the file, not copied
[11:17] <topyli> intelikey: true. hotplug it is then. or something ;-)
[11:17] <oskude> ryan_, you can change the "de" to something thats closer to you (de = germany)
[11:17] <boo> KIMPPA HAXORS STEAL YOUR MEGABYTES
[11:17] <Sonderblade> what do i need to setup to get backports from drapper into ubuntu?
[11:17] <crimsun> Kimppa: did you ''sync''?
[11:17] <Sonderblade> into breezy
[11:17] <ryan_> i think that i know what's happening
[11:17] <intelikey> well i'm not going to install ub again just to see.
[11:17] <oskude> boo, write "fglrx" instead of "ati" in your xorg.conf and reboot xserver
[11:17] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: Make sure that you have disabled repos visible, and they should be there as options in repo selection
[11:17] <ajmitch> Kimppa: the file was most likely still opened by a program - especially if it was a log file
[11:18] <ryan_> i'm editing it with sudo gedit sources.list
[11:18] <boo> i did
[11:18] <ryan_> and it isn't saving what i am doing
[11:18] <Kimppa> crimsun: nope?
[11:18] <oskude> ryan_, hmm
[11:18] <Seveas> stupid freenode
[11:18] <topyli> intelikey: i used mandrake for years. release after release, i ended up disabling supermount. it's a complete dog
[11:18] <Seveas> bans come back after removing them
[11:18] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: disabled repos visible? where do i change that?
[11:18] <Kimppa> ajmitch: it was a .zip file, but it shouldn't be opened anywhere...
[11:18] <oskude> boo, so wheres the problem ?
[11:18] <boo> i dont know where to get tv out?
[11:19] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: and why is backports disabled? sounds strange
[11:19] <eliphas_> well i did cat /etc/resolv.conf and I have only the nameserver 192.168.xx.xx
[11:19] <intelikey> topyli in 10 it works pretty good.
[11:19] <eliphas_> and on ly laptop the same
[11:19] <eliphas_> so well
[11:19] <eliphas_> Y?
[11:19] <intelikey> in eariler releases i agree
[11:19] <oskude> ryan_, try editing with "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" you can paste with shift-ins and alt-x for exit (it asks y for saving)
[11:19] <Seveas> boo, fireglcontrol
[11:19] <ldy> Hi all
[11:19] <topyli> intelikey: oh. i don't think i ever had 10. was with debian by then
[11:19] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: In Synaptic, Settings->Repositories->Settings->Show Disabled Software Sources.
[11:19] <mcphail> eliphas_: change the address to your _actual_ nameserver rather than your router
[11:19] <james__> hi
[11:20] <ldy> Anyone can tell me a source for mplayer+w32codecs?
[11:20] <Fujitsu> You should then see an entry for breezy-backports.
[11:20] <boo> command not found
[11:20] <oskude> boo, hmm, i had a "ati button" in bottom of "applications" menu on the gnome-panel...
[11:20] <topyli> intelikey: urpmi goodness taught me that the debian way is the easy way for adminning a linux box :)
[11:20] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: thanks, can you tell me why it is disabled by default?
[11:20] <james__> www.frontlinetech.blogspot.com
[11:20] <boo> im not that lucky :P
[11:20] <mcphail> eliphas_: my belkin router often messes up DNS
[11:20] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: Not everybody wants the cutting-edge, possibly unstable software!
[11:21] <oskude> boo, but could be that it was on hoary with an older ati driver :)
[11:21] <eliphas_> ok here i have a lynksys
[11:21] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: i thought backports was only for bugfixes?
[11:21] <oskude> boo, and you didnt find anything on ubuntuforums with ati tv-out, or something like that ?
[11:21] <intelikey> yeah topyli if i had not used 10 i'd totaly agree, but i have 10 and supermount works like an old DOS system.  it doesn't care if floppy is there or not it mounts on each read/write and umounts as soon as it syncs.
[11:21] <Seveas> Sonderblade, no
[11:21] <ryan_> oskuda, it seems like it saved it now let me try apt-get again
[11:21] <boo> nope
[11:21] <Seveas> that's what -updates and -security are for
[11:22] <oskude> boo, hmm
[11:22] <mcphail> eliphas_: yes, but try changing the address in /etc/resolv.conf to your ISP's DNS
[11:22] <ryan_> no luck... strange
[11:23] <oskude> ryan_, if you now open the sources.list, are the changes there ?
[11:23] <eliphas_> ok i will try that thanks
[11:23] <boo> i guess what im looking for is the equivilant of ati control panel (or the advanced tab of displays) in windows
[11:23] <eliphas_> keep you upat eon it
[11:23] <jamyskis> morning everybody
[11:23] <Sonderblade> Seveas: are you sure? Cause there was an extremely important bugfix in -backports that i couldn't find in -updates
[11:23] <ryan_> yes the changes are there
[11:23] <foolswisdom> i am fairly excited I posted my 1st bounty, https://launchpad.net/bounties/all-linux-for-humans
[11:23] <Seveas> Sonderblade, maybe the complete update it was in was not suitable for -updates
[11:24] <oskude> ryan_, post one more time that changed sources.list in pastebin :)
[11:24] <ryan_> ok
[11:24] <Seveas> foolswisdom, do not abuse launchpad for such crap
[11:24] <YukiIkyuta> foolswisdom: x_____x
[11:24] <foolswisdom> how is that abuse or crap
[11:24] <oskude> boo, yould be that the "control panel" is not anymore included in fglrx things...
[11:24] <foolswisdom> my money is good
[11:24] <ryan_> oh wait a sec.....
[11:24] <Seveas> it's abuse because it's crap
[11:24] <ryan_> you told me to change breezy-backports to breezy right?
[11:25] <oskude> boo, but theres a way to edit the xorg.conf to activate tvout... i think...
[11:25] <Seveas> this is not something for a bounty but maybe for discussioin on ubuntu-devel
[11:25] <oskude> ryan_, yup
[11:25] <ryan_> ok that never got saved let me do that
[11:25] <oskude> ryan_, roger
[11:25] <ajmitch> Seveas: mind pasting the bounty details to me in /query ? :)
[11:25] <olicat> hi all. does anyone know if OpenOffice impress can print out 2 slides per page, with the slides below one another?
[11:26] <Sonderblade> Seveas: it was this bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17562 it is very strange that you shouldn't be able to get it fixed without having to live on the cutting edge
[11:26] <Seveas> Sonderblade, ah that one :)
[11:26] <topyli> intelikey: that's how supermount was always supposed to work. seems they finally got it working :)
[11:26] <ryan_> oskuda you are my hero
[11:26] <topyli> intelikey: mind you, for some people, on some systems, it always worked well
[11:26] <Seveas> Sonderblade, afaik there were very good reasons not to put it in -updates, but I forgot them :)
[11:27] <intelikey> foolswisdom if i had it right now i'd add another $20 to that :)
[11:27] <ryan_> You have prevented a newbie linux user from throwing his laptop through a window
[11:27] <intelikey> topyli yeah but until 10 it didn't for me.
[11:27] <foolswisdom> it really does almost stop me from using ubunutu, maybe I want pay it any time soon... .but I look forward to paying it
[11:27] <oskude> ryan_, patience is the key to linux ;)
[11:27] <boo> $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:27] <boo> You probably don't need the control panel unless you are using dual monitors. If you want it add fglrx-control to the above command.    explain?
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> boo: run that command.
[11:28] <ryan_> oskude, do you get the type to be red by typing name then comma?
[11:28] <Sonderblade> Seveas: the reason sure has to be VERY good, cause that's a freak bug
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> Replacing <your-kernel-version> with whatever kernel you're using.
[11:28] <oskude> ryan_, yes
[11:28] <boo> i dont know my kernel vers, or where fglrx-control goes
[11:28] <jamyskis> i thought infinite patience was the key to windows :p
[11:28] <boo> when i booted, i chose the -10 instead of -9
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> boo: okay, one moment; type uname -a
[11:28] <ryan_> oskude, thanks for the help, wish I would've had it when I started 6 hours ago  :)
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> and show me.
[11:28] <oskude> boo, uname -r = kernel version
[11:28] <oskude> ryan_, :) your welcome
[11:29] <boo> do i need the $
[11:29] <YukiIkyuta> boo: no, that's just showing it's a shell.
[11:29] <YukiIkyuta> boo: type ``uname -r'' and show us
[11:29] <boo> wheres does the fglrx-control go
[11:30] <boo> 2.6.12-10-386
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> oh.
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> fglrx-control at the end, so;
[11:30] <boo> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386  thats what i have so far
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 fglrx-control
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> and xorg-driver-fglrx!
[11:30] <intelikey> hoary is .10 ?  breezy is .12 ?
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> intelikey: hoary is .5, breezy .10
[11:30] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, he has the driver allready
[11:31] <YukiIkyuta> oskude: in that case, it won't fail!
[11:31] <intelikey> no YukiIkyuta kernel not month.
[11:31] <boo> oops? lol its running now
[11:31] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, true :)
[11:31] <boo> ok what command do i do now?
[11:31] <boo> to open the cp
[11:31] <YukiIkyuta> boo: try sudo fglrx-control
[11:32] <boo> ah i found it...fireglcontrol
[11:32] <_eliphas> mcphail, THANKS I added then the dns of myisp into my resolv.conf and it works
[11:32] <YukiIkyuta> Ah, it's using fire.
[11:32] <boo> whoa shit
[11:32] <oskude> boo, and after gnome-panel restart its propably in the menus
[11:32] <boo> i clicked tv out and everything went black
[11:32] <boo> doh
[11:32] <mcphail> _eliphas: excellent!
[11:32] <oskude> boo :) mine just changed to 800x600x60hz
[11:32] <_eliphas> :)
[11:32] <_eliphas> mcphail,  top man
[11:33] <boo> OMG it works siiick
[11:33] <boo> now to see if videos work...they didnt as clone on windows unless i made the tv primary
[11:35] <boo> wow
[11:35] <nelposto> hellouu team
[11:35] <boo> linux owns windows so hard
[11:36] <oskude> boo, :)
[11:36] <gsuveg> gnome 2.12.2 come out to breezy ?
[11:36] <nelposto> i'm having trouble with my network DHCP settings.. anyone able to help?
[11:36] <boo> you dont hafta play musical monitors to get tv out!
[11:36] <Fujitsu> nelposto: Fire away!
[11:36] <jamyskis> what exactly is wrong nelposto?
[11:36] <nelposto> ta
[11:36] <nelposto> So, it automagically detects my router as the DNS server
[11:36] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: fire the main cannon! Emergency at port side! Run to the aft! SOS!
[11:36] <nelposto> which is pretty lame
[11:37] <Fujitsu> nelposto: Your router is obviously telling it to.
[11:37] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: typically that'll be your DHCP server telling ... yes.
[11:37] <boo> Is there winrar for linux
[11:37] <nelposto> because I have to go back and set my normal DNS server every 20 minutes or so, as it re updates it
[11:37] <YukiIkyuta> boo: that would make no sense. `win' rar? There is a rar program.
[11:37] <oskude> boo unrar
[11:37] <boo> :P
[11:37] <nelposto> yuck boo said the 'W' word
[11:37] <topyli> boo: no. there's rar, and the package manager works through it
[11:37] <oskude> boo, apt-cache search unrar
[11:38] <topyli> boo: specifically, you probably want unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[11:38] <boo> whats multiverse
[11:38] <nelposto> well, if I want my router to not tell it the wrong thing.. would that be under the router settings instead?
[11:38] <jamyskis> nelposto: our network does this too - i simply got around it by including our router, server and isp dns servers in the dns list
[11:38] <YukiIkyuta> boo: non-free software.
[11:38] <jamyskis> on the local machine
[11:38] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: typically!
[11:38] <boo> yuck pay?
[11:38] <topyli> boo: it's a ubuntu repository for evil non-free stuff
[11:38] <boo> whats a repository?
[11:38] <oskude> !repos
[11:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:38] <nelposto> thanks guys, let me have a look
[11:38] <topyli> boo: no. it's just non-free, as in proprietary, not open source
[11:38] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: good luck.
[11:39] <boo> oh
[11:39] <Mabus06> um can someone help me? I have the brightness on doom 3 set very high. I started in non fullscreen mode, and after I closed it my computer retained the high brightness (*is getting blinded right now*) how can I revert this?
[11:39] <boo> so i go to synapse and install unrar?
[11:39] <Sonderblade> i have pmount with the floppy fix 0.9.6-1, but ubuntu still doesn't mount floppies automagically, usb devices and cdroms work though
[11:39] <oskude> boo, repository is a place where you get those  packages to install
[11:39] <jamyskis> mabus06: Options/Brightness in the main menu? :-p
[11:39] <topyli> btw, ubotu doesn't know about easysource
[11:40] <boo> !ubotu learn easysource
[11:40] <ubotu> boo: No idea
[11:40] <oskude> boo, or from console with "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[11:40] <Mabus06> jamyskis, "main menu"?
[11:40] <nelposto> Does 'Static Routing' sound like the right section? I can choose 'new destination IP', 'Mask', 'Gateway', 'Metric' ?
[11:40] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: hmm, not quite. What kind of router do you have?
[11:40] <Zukero> hello
[11:40] <boo> so non free instead of free?
[11:40] <i386> anyone know when Xorg 7.0 is going into dapper?
[11:40] <Zukero> is there a way to have lib-xine 1.1 on ubuntu ?
[11:40] <nelposto> Yuki: Netcomm NB5 Wireless doober.. haven't worked out the wireless yet but that's for another day I think
[11:40] <oskude> boo, dunno, you may choose :)
[11:40] <Mabus06> um can someone help me? I have the brightness on doom 3 set very high. I started in non fullscreen mode, and after I closed it my computer retained the high brightness (*is getting blinded right now*) how can I revert this?
[11:40] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: typically, your router will pass on the DNS settings that it's received from the WAN. Are you sure it's set up correctly, intrinsically?
[11:40] <oskude> boo, i would try free first...
[11:41] <topyli> boo: you could get by with the free version, but some new rar archives may be packaged in an extra-evil new format
[11:41] <Mabus06> If you mean turn down the brightness in doom3... that's not even close to solving the problem if you read what I said.
[11:41] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: try ``sudo apt-get install libxine1c2'' at a command line.
[11:41] <boo> hmm its unstalled...now what?
[11:41] <nelposto> Yuki.. I don't know much about the setup.. but in Windows it works fine dynamically
[11:41] <nelposto> I tried setting up the Static settings
[11:41] <jamyskis> Mabus06: So the problem is that the brightness stays up when you quit the game?
[11:41] <oskude> boo, unrar <file>
[11:42] <nelposto> (I have a static IP).. but I kept getting a connection refused error, or similar
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: hmm, weird. can you show us what's in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> ?*
[11:42] <Mabus06> yes jamyskis ... well only after playing it in non fullscreen mode
[11:42] <boo> is there a shell like thing? double click and it opens a rar window
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> Should only be 3 lines or so in there.
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> boo: almost certainly not.
[11:42] <boo> yuck
[11:42] <topyli> boo: you can just click away
[11:42] <nelposto> Just copy/paste?
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> Learn the command line, come on!
[11:42] <Mabus06> jamyskis, but I tried opening it in fullscreen mode and closing it again but that didn't work (works often in windoze)
[11:42] <topyli> boo: the gnome arcive manager will find unrar and use it
[11:42] <oskude> console rulez :)
[11:42] <Zukero> /topic #
[11:42] <boo> im a cal-i gamer not a typer :)
[11:42] <Zukero> sorry
[11:43] <boo> unless the commands are WASD or R i am not good at typing them
[11:43] <jamyskis> Mabus06: In that case I can't see for the moment as I don't have my Doom 3 in front of me to try and reproduce the problem...sorry
[11:43] <topyli> boo: you *will* learn the command line sooner or later once you find out how powerful the unix shell is
[11:43] <nelposto> lol boo
[11:43] <Mabus06> okay don't tell me in this room of almost 700 ubuntu users nobody knows how to undo the brightness increase doom3 did?
[11:43] <YukiIkyuta> boo: well, you're going to have to learn them some day!
[11:43] <oskude> boo, well, for helping its easier to give console commands, rather than describe mouse paths...
[11:43] <nelposto> Yuki: nameserver 220.233.0.4
[11:43] <nelposto> Although this gets replaced every so often by the auto detect thing
[11:43] <oskude> boo, meaning helping in text based irc chat...
[11:44] <Zukero> YukiIkyuta, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5260
[11:44] <nelposto> oh, also I'm using the Live cd right now
[11:44] <topyli> yeah, hard to send screenshot instructions of mouse clicks here
[11:44] <boo> i heard ntfs drives are read only...any chance of this changing soon?
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: that makes it sound like everything is fine. Does it specifically request development headers ..?
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> boo: hopefulyl! At the moment, readonly it is.
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: ah, I see.. that may have more limited driver support, I don't know.
[11:44] <Sonderblade> Mabus06: ctrl+alt+backspace should fix it
[11:45] <topyli> besides, finding the stuff to click from the menus and inside apps usually takes more time than writing one-liners
[11:45] <Zukero> yeah, i need version 1.1 mini to build some libs for enlightenment 17
[11:45] <nelposto> le sigh
[11:45] <boo> because counterstrike is a no go because you need to write to clientregistry.blob file :(  there any way to get around that?
[11:45] <oskude> !ntfs
[11:45] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: I doubt that's the problem, however. You could try grabbing the DNS server entries from the router configuration and placing them in resolv.conf yourself?
[11:45] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: try installing the package libxine-dev ?
[11:45] <nelposto> I agree.. but I don't understand what you're asking me to do next?
[11:45] <Zukero> YukiIkyuta, it is installes allready
[11:46] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: weird!
[11:46] <nelposto> the 220.233... etc value is the one that I keep putting into the network config.. it's the correct DNS address
[11:46] <Zukero> YukiIkyuta, i even try building xine-lib sources
[11:46] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: peculiar; typically there are two. Still no lookups?
[11:46] <Zukero> the only problem is version number
[11:46] <boo> .....an error occured while extracting files
[11:46] <boo> fvckpassword
[11:46] <oskude> boo, :) try non-free
[11:46] <nelposto> Yuki I don't know how to chec the lookups?
[11:47] <boo> this is nonfree
[11:47] <oskude> hups
[11:47] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: well, a better question is, what problems are you experiencing right now?
[11:47] <boo> ill try console now
[11:47] <_eliphas> what was the command to get back the console on right click in gnome?
[11:47] <topyli> boo: you went straight for non-free! to the stakes, brothers!
[11:47] <YukiIkyuta> You could try ``dig sairyx.org'' and see what it says.
[11:48] <nelposto> Yuki it's fine now, and it'll be fine till the ubuntu updates the DNS settings by taking them from the router
[11:48] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: you should be able to set the DNS server manually!
[11:48] <mcphail> nelposto: use a static address rather than dhcp
[11:48] <nelposto> Yeah.. my problem is when I did this, I got some connection refused error
[11:48] <nelposto> I'll try again just now
[11:48] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: weird; how are you doing that?
[11:49] <nelposto> network settings -> properties of eth0
[11:49] <boo> while im waiting, can someone explain to me what X is?
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> And you get connection refused ..? Very weird.
[11:49] <musik> i get grub error 18!! plz help.......
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> boo: X is the graphical interface.
[11:49] <oskude> boo, an upper case character ? ;)
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> Typically you just get a completely text-only console.
[11:49] <boo> and why is numlock default off :(
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> oskude :)!
[11:49] <musik> i get grub error 18 when i boot windows! plz help!
[11:50] <oskude> dejavu ?
[11:50] <YukiIkyuta> I think so. oO
[11:50] <YukiIkyuta> musik: more information?
[11:50] <johns^_> no, just someone without google ;)
[11:50] <boo> ok im using unrar, what do i put under <archive>
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> (more information, eg. why are you trying to boot back into Windows!?)
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> boo: the name of the archive!
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> (the RAR file!)
[11:51] <boo> oh lol
[11:51] <topyli> boo: the name of the file
[11:51] <boo> um, what then for <files...>
[11:51] <oskude> boo "." or was it "*"
[11:51] <topyli> you'll get better error messages from console than from the archive manager
[11:51] <Sonderblade> why do i need root privileges for "mount -t /media/floppy" but not for "mount /media/floppy"?
[11:51] <oskude> boo, or try emtpy
[11:51] <boo> :?
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: mount -t /media/floppy isn't a valid command?
[11:51] <boo> k
[11:52] <oskude> boo, just "unrar <file>"
[11:52] <YukiIkyuta> boo: <files...> is whatever you're archiving.
[11:52] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: i meant mount -t vfat /media/floppy
[11:52] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: ah.. it's because you're trying to do something which isn't set up as default behaviour.
[11:52] <boo> oh, so im not archiving anything
[11:52] <Fujitsu> Yes
[11:52] <boo> im extacting?
[11:52] <YukiIkyuta> It's a security practice; the superuser can say what can and cannot be done typically, but only he can do things out of the ordinary.
[11:52] <topyli> Sonderblade: perhaps because you're using the full command and it is different from what's in fstab
[11:53] <oskude> boo, didnt "unrar <archive>" work ?
[11:53] <Fujitsu> It won't be allowing you to mount vfat... Only what is in fstab will be allowed, that is auto. You are not allowed to specify it!
[11:53] <Sonderblade> topyli: ok so its a bug?
[11:53] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: no!!!
[11:53] <topyli> Sonderblade: by no means. it's a very good feature
[11:53] <azeem> Sonderblade: it is a limitation of GNU/Linux
[11:53] <topyli> Sonderblade: we don't want users mounting stuff with crazy options by mistake
[11:53] <YukiIkyuta> azeem: not a limitation at all.
[11:54] <pc22> what is the workgroup term in linux?
[11:54] <Sonderblade> but it means i cant automount floppies which are almost always in vfat
[11:54] <azeem> YukiIkyuta: well, the GNU Hurd people seem to think that, at least
[11:54] <boo> whoa console is cool
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> pc22: there isn't such a close match.
[11:54] <boo> it says the rar text file and what rar is extracting from
[11:54] <nelpost0> reAr
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: what's the line fstab for the floppy?
[11:54] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[11:54] <topyli> pc22: workgroup is a windows networking term, and it's called "workgroup" in any context
[11:54] <nelpost0> so the static IP settings didn't work so well
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> That should work anyways?
[11:54] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: Yes, auto.
[11:55] <YukiIkyuta> ``auto'' is the filesystem it should be using. Can't you just mount it, and it recognizes it?
[11:55] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: oh?
[11:55] <Fujitsu> nelpost0: What was wrong?
[11:55] <boo> fuck password incorrect
[11:55] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: no, mount cannot autodetect the fs
[11:55] <boo> does the pass go in brackets?
[11:55] <nelpost0> well I tried to put in the settings
[11:55] <oskude> boo, dunno, try
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: It certainly should!
[11:56] <nelpost0> is IP address supposed to be my IP on the network... and gateway the address of the DNS ?
[11:56] <boo> how do i stop something from executing in console
[11:56] <topyli> Sonderblade: it's a known bug. fixed only in dapper and backports
[11:56] <boo> i tried STOP but it didnt listen
[11:56] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: no! Gateway is the router.
[11:56] <Fujitsu> nelpost0: Gateway is for the router!
[11:56] <Fujitsu> Damn, beat me to it.
[11:56] <Sonderblade> topyli: i have backports
[11:56] <YukiIkyuta> XD
[11:56] <YukiIkyuta> boo: ctrl+c, or open another terminal and kill it.
[11:56] <nelpost0> oh GENIUS
[11:56] <nelpost0> ok.. and IP address is the DNS server then?
[11:56] <nelpost0> or
[11:56] <musik> my bro needs windows and he's shouting at me!
[11:56] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: i have never ever seen mount be able to autodetect vfat
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: IP address is *yours*.
[11:57] <Fujitsu> IP address is yours.
[11:57] <nelpost0> I name the DNS in the DNS part... that could make sense
[11:57] <Fujitsu> DNS is DNS.
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: perhaps it's umsdos?
[11:57] <musik> what more info shud i give?
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: XD! ^_^
[11:57] <boo>  unrar e -p[Pirates0020]  /media/0\ GB\ Disk\ \(hdc1\)/Documents\ and\ Settings/Boo/Desktop/moviez/Pirates\ of\ the\ Caribbean\ .The\ Curse\ of\ the\ Black\ Pearl\(2003\)/Pirates\ of\ the\ Caribbean\ .The\ Curse\ of\ the\ Black\ Pearl\(2003\).part01.rar /home/boo/Desktop/
[11:57] <boo>    anyone see any problems?
[11:57] <oskude> musik, shout back :)
[11:57] <nelpost0> god I'm good at this game
[11:57] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: dunno. but mount -t vfat works
[11:57] <Fujitsu> boo, perhaps you shouldn't have so many spaces!
[11:57] <nelpost0> you should've seen me the other day when I tied my own shoelaces.. grand affair.. ok off to try
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> boo: yes.
[11:57] <oskude> boo, use " in your paths, its way more readable :)
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> boo: take away that last argument.
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: haha! ^^
[11:58] <boo> what last argument?
[11:58] <boo> the /home/boo one?
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> boo: the ``/home/boo/Desktop/'' bit.
[11:58] <topyli> yeah, it will extract to the current directory
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> Yup.
[11:58] <boo> ok, but i dont know why that would fix the PW problem =/
[11:59] <boo> how do i know the current dir.
[11:59] <T80U> hey
[11:59] <oskude> boo, whereami
[11:59] <nelpost0> zOMG it works.. thanks heaps!
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> boo: you're in it. ``pwd'' reveals your current directory.
[11:59] <Fujitsu> boo: The prompt will tell you, as will typing pwd.
[11:59] <topyli> boo try "pwd"
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> `cd' will get you there.
[11:59] <T80U> does anyone know how to copy files into the filesystem?
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: great!
[11:59] <Fujitsu> T80U: What do you mean?
[11:59] <oskude> OHNO, theres no "whereami" :)
[11:59] <markc> I've managd to install breezy onto an external USB drive but I'm struggling to get it to boot up.. any pointers to docs/howtos available ?
[12:00] <Fujitsu> T80U, what are you wanting to do?
[12:00] <topyli> oskude: no. unix only answers to deeper questions like "whoami"
[12:00] <T80U> i want to copy some files into the var/www/ eg apache so i can access them
[12:00] <YukiIkyuta> markc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootingFromUSB
[12:00] <Fujitsu> T80U: You can use the file manager, or the terminal.
[12:00] <oskude> topyli, aah yeah, that was it, sorry, my memory leaks :)
[12:00] <T80U> okay thanks Fujitsu
[12:00] <topyli> oskude: wherami is a newbie question, whoami shows some sage understanding about STUFF
[12:00] <boo> man im so hungry i havent ate since yesterday morning
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> boo: what's the time? xP
[12:01] <boo> and zaxbys doesnt open for 3 hours
[12:01] <boo> 501 am
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> Wah.
[12:01] <T80U> Fujitsu where is file manager?
[12:01] <T80U> im new to Ubuntu sorry
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> All I've done is ate and toyed about with my computer.
[12:01] <Fujitsu> T80U: If you go Places->Computer->File System
[12:01] <oskude> making a link "whereami" to pwd :P
[12:01] <T80U> yeah
[12:01] <T80U> i cant copy the files across
[12:01] <Fujitsu> It says access denied?
[12:01] <boo> fuck same problem
[12:02] <T80U> i dont have the premissions
[12:02] <T80U> yeah
[12:02] <Fujitsu> OK.
[12:02] <YukiIkyuta> boo: what exactly does it say?
[12:02] <markc> YukiIkyuta> great, thanks, looks like it's not possible
[12:02] <YukiIkyuta> markc: ouch! ><
[12:02] <topyli> oskude: overkill, you're chaniging the system. make an alias whereami="pdw" to ~/.bashrc instead :)
[12:02] <Fujitsu> T80U: Open a terminal, and type 'sudo nautilus'
[12:02] <T80U> k
[12:02] <boo> Encrypted file:  CRC failed in Pirates of the Caribbean(2003).CD3.avi (password incorrect ?)
[12:02] <nelposto> another question.. I'm preparing to partition my harddrive so I can do some dual booting goodness.. My HDD is partitioned into two partitions, both NTFS. I plan to reinstall windows, but there is some amount of data I want to carry over.. short of backing it all up to another source, is it possible for me to convert the hard disk (ie to FAT) and repartition it _without_ destroying the data I want to keep?
[12:03] <oskude> topyli, dont worry, i know what im doing :)
[12:03] <Fujitsu> That will get you into a super-privileged file-manager, but be careful what you do, T80U.
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> boo: well, then you need to know the password!
[12:03] <_eliphas> what was the command to get back the console on right click in gnome?
[12:03] <boo> i have it lol
[12:03] <topyli> oskude: heh
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: tried PartitionMagic?
[12:03] <boo>  password:Pirates0020
[12:03] <T80U> okay thanks
[12:03] <oskude> !pirates
[12:03] <ubotu> oskude: What?
[12:03] <oskude> :)
[12:03] <T80U> cheers Fujitsu
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> boo: well, I don't need to know that, but unless you're misentering it, there's nothing that can be done.
[12:03] <Fujitsu> OK, T80U.
[12:03] <boo> does the pw go in brackets?
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> (this isn't a limit of Ubuntu, or Linux; it's just the archive you're using)
[12:03] <nelposto> Yuki that's where i'm about to look ... Just wondering if anyone knew whether it were possible to keep the data and re do partitions
[12:04] <T80U> BTW what are some good ways to secure  Ubuntu:?
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: how are you specifying the password?
[12:04] <boo> i have -p[pw] 
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: no brackets!
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: well, PartitionMagic will keep the data and re do them.
[12:04] <boo> it says brackets in the documentation!
[12:04] <boo> it needs to stop lying
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: really?!
[12:04] <topyli> T80U: what exactly are you afraid of? ;-)
[12:04] <boo>  p[password]    Set password
[12:04] <lillo> hello
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: yes, the brackets are to show you that it's optional!
[12:04] <oskude> boo, <> and []  are common, any one got a tutorial ? :)
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> When those appear, you don't have to specify them.
[12:04] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
 means mandatory.
[12:05] <T80U> lol, i went to Ubuntu cause i thought it would be more secure then windws
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> and []  optional.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> []  means optional.
[12:05] <boo> lol
[12:05] <boo> oops =/
[12:05] <Fujitsu> T80U, it is!
[12:05] <boo> so i have -pPirates
[12:05] <Ng> Fujitsu: that's a very bold claim ;)
[12:05] <lillo> has anyone experimented with vesafb-tng?
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> Ng: it's fairly accurate.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> Ng: Not really.
[12:05] <T80U> really?
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> boo: or just -p, and it'll ask you when you enter the command.
[12:05] <nelposto> ok Yuki thanks
[12:05] <Ng> Fujitsu: really :)
[12:05] <nelposto> and thanks Fuji as well
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> T80U: a *lot* more secure.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> Ng: Really.
[12:06] <nelposto> Thanks to you all, if you ever in town and need a place to stay ...
[12:06] <Ng> Fujitsu: have you audited all the code? or are you just repeating the age old mantra that it must be more secure because it's not windows? ;)
[12:06] <T80U> i hope so >_>
[12:06] <_eliphas> !wiki
[12:06] <boo> and is there any docking system for linux? can i dock gaim to the right side of a workspace?
[12:06] <nelposto> I'm out to investigate.. cheers again
[12:06] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it depends on your window manager. I'm not sure about GNOME ...
[12:06] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: good luck.
[12:06] <_eliphas> !wiki gnome console
[12:06] <nelposto> ta
[12:06] <YukiIkyuta> boo: you can make a window always visible (always on top)
[12:06] <Ng> Fujitsu: it *can* be more secure, but poor configuration on any OS will leave you open to attack
[12:06] <T80U> hmmm
[12:06] <lillo> hey, nobody tried vesafb-tng? I can't believe it...
[12:07] <boo> well the reason i want docking is so nothing can go under it
[12:07] <T80U> whats the best way to configure? or to check what services your running?
[12:07] <YukiIkyuta> Ng: naturally your statement is true. Perhaps if we compare the default configurations, however?
[12:07] <boo> and is flash supported w/ linux?
[12:07] <YukiIkyuta> Or the most secure configuration available via the setup process only? (with no additional configuration)
[12:07] <YukiIkyuta> boo: of course.
[12:07] <Ng> T80U: by default ubuntu doesn't have any services running that are accessible remotely, so if you don't install any servers then it is pretty well secured by default
[12:07] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: indeed, in which case Ubuntu does very well :)
[12:07] <Fujitsu> Ng: Pretty much, yes...
[12:07] <oskude> T80U, "ps aux" shows the processes currently running
[12:07] <T80U> cool, thanks oskude
[12:08] <T80U> and ng
[12:08] <YukiIkyuta> Well, yes. It's true that Windows can be configured; it just takes a *lot* of effort, and -maintenance-.
[12:08] <boo> is there an activex control ?
[12:08] <YukiIkyuta> boo: no.
[12:08] <oskude> !activex
[12:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, oskude
[12:08] <oskude> :)
[12:08] <T80U> im running Apache and SQL do you folks think that im unsecured?
[12:08] <YukiIkyuta> T80U: no!
[12:08] <oskude> boo, whats activex ? ;)
[12:08] <boo> not cool lol
[12:09] <Ng> T80U: if you have apache and mysql open to the world then yes
[12:09] <boo> firefox didnt have activex in windows so i guess now
[12:09] <YukiIkyuta> boo: ActiveX is one of Microsoft's worst ideas.
[12:09] <Fujitsu> boo: No ActiveX in Linux, fortunately.
[12:09] <T80U> hmmm, how to i lock them down? thanks for answering my questions oskude, fujitsu, YukiIkyuta and ng
[12:09] <Ng> boo: no, you can't run activex components in a browser, unless you run Internet Explorer in wine
[12:09] <oskude> T80U, lock them down ?
[12:10] <topyli> T80U: if you run services, you have to either configure them to listen to localhost only, or use a firewall
[12:10] <Fujitsu> Actually, Firefox can do ActiveX in WIne.
[12:10] <T80U> hmm, okay
[12:10] <topyli> T80U: unless you actually want them visible
[12:10] <YukiIkyuta_> Fujitsu, ouch.
[12:10] <T80U> so how do i get them to be secure i mean
[12:10] <YukiIkyuta_> T80U, configure each one individually!
[12:10] <T80U> i dont want people to be able to see my PHPmyadmin lol (shows my noobyness )
[12:10] <boo> i was running age of empires 2 in wine, and it was running sooooo slow but i have a great gfx card, any reason?
[12:11] <Fujitsu> AOEII does not work well atm.
[12:11] <topyli> T80U: installing and configuring firestarter is a good start
[12:11] <glouph> How comes the gnome desktop gets green sometimes ?
[12:11] <Hobbsee> boo: tried AOE 1?
[12:11] <boo> what about age3?
[12:11] <oskude> T80U, do you have a dsl-router (with firewall) ?
[12:11] <boo> nope hobb
[12:11] <glouph> http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1274/capture2qd.png < like this
[12:11] <T80U> teah
[12:11] <boo> battlefield 2? that work?
[12:11] <T80U> yeah* i dont have firestarter
[12:12] <topyli> T80U: well if you have a hardware firewall that's even better
[12:12] <boo> and WHY ARE MY DESKTOP ICONS HALF OFF THE SCREEN :(
[12:12] <T80U> mmm okay
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> boo: they are scared of you
[12:12] <oskude> T80U, do you connect to the internet with your linux, or does your dsl-router do this for you ?
[12:12] <grunt> does anyone have a repo where I could apt-get the ncftp.. does not seem to be avail from default.
[12:12] <T80U> my router does it for me
[12:13] <Ng> grunt: it's in universe
[12:13] <Fujitsu> Goodnight all.
[12:13] <topyli> boo: dunno, but your all-caps text is half off my sight
[12:13] <YukiIkyuta> grunt, it's in univers.e
[12:13] <YukiIkyuta> universe*
[12:13] <boo> :P
[12:13] <T80U> but if i am running a webserver wont i have to be the gateway out?
[12:13] <oskude> T80U, ok, so i assume your router has a firewall, and if you havent opened any port in there, nobody should be able to visit your pc...
[12:13] <T80U> yeah , im not port forwading till its all setup >: D
[12:13] <topyli> T80U: well, open the port for your web server
[12:14] <Ng> grunt: lftp is available by default and is nicer imho :)
[12:14] <oskude> T80U, ah ok, so you want to server http for the internet, but want all to be secure as possible ?
[12:14] <grunt> but CPAN module for perl requires ncftp...
[12:14] <T80U> yeah
[12:14] <T80U> thats what i wanna do oskude
[12:15] <T80U> BTW, some folders havent appared on my local host (in the browser) even though they are in www?
[12:15] <lillo> maybe now someone has come who can help me... I'm having problems installing vesafb-tng under ubuntu breezy
[12:15] <topyli> T80U: configure apache properly and keep it up to date, open port 80, profit!
[12:15] <oskude> T80U, then (SCNR!) RTFM :) well, the apache is pretty secure by default, and remember to set good passwords
[12:15] <lillo> so has anyone got experience with it so he/she can help me?
[12:15] <T80U> uhh excuse the niave password
[12:15] <T80U> where do i set the password for apache :X
[12:16] <topyli> T80U: you don't
[12:16] <oskude> T80U, well "apache" dont have a password...
[12:16] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, well, what's happening right now?
[12:16] <T80U> what about httpdaccess?
[12:16] <oskude> T80U, but you can set passwords to your folders that are accessable from apache (web browser)
[12:16] <YukiIkyuta> .htaccess file.
[12:16] <lillo> YukiIkyuta, I recompiled the kernel after applying the latest vesafb-tng patch from the author's page
[12:17] <T80U> ahh k cheers
[12:17] <lillo> problem is, to make it compile with the ubuntu kernel (2.6.12 IIRC) I had to modify the patch
[12:17] <lillo> it compiled then
[12:17] <grunt> great.. ncftp now installing.. thx for that universe trick.
[12:17] <T80U> would you fellahs know why some folders arent showing up on local host, yet ive put them there...?
[12:17] <lillo> in the kernel config I removed all fb drivers except vesafb
[12:17] <lillo> to ensure that one was going to be used
[12:18] <lillo> then recompiled the kernel
[12:18] <lillo> now on boot it says it can't load vga16fb
[12:18] <oskude> T80U, rights of the directory, maybe
[12:18] <T80U> hmm, cheers oskude
[12:18] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[12:18] <lillo> even if in menu.lst of grub I explicitely put video=vesafb:640x480-32
[12:19] <lillo> dunno what went wrong
[12:19] <T80U> it shows apache and phpmy admin, but not aiml or src?? any ideas oskude?
[12:19] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, ack, I really don't know!
[12:19] <T80U> i checked permissions there okay
[12:20] <oskude> T80U, hmm
[12:20] <lillo> no ideas? Maybe a newer vesafb-tng patch explicitely for ubuntu?
[12:20] <T80U> lol, looks like i "broke" something
[12:20] <oskude> T80U, what did you do ?
[12:20] <YukiIkyuta> Not from what I see..
[12:20] <lillo> isn't there a kernel source package in the ubuntu repository that holds the vesafb-tng patch already applied?
[12:21] <T80U> oskude - i just copied some folders for this PHP chatbot
[12:21] <T80U> and i cant see them when i try to access them in localhost
[12:21] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, it's possible that the latest version has it applied.
[12:21] <oskude> T80U, sec, i do a test..
[12:22] <lillo> I have 2.6.12-9
[12:22] <T80U> cheers champ
[12:22] <YukiIkyuta> Package linux-source-2.6.12 (has patches applied already)
[12:22] <lillo> doesn't seem so... vesafb-tng isn't there
[12:23] <lillo> at least the patch I downloaded partly applied
[12:23] <lillo> so it means it wasn't previously applied
[12:23] <oskude> T80U, i just made a dir "sudo mkdir /var/www/foodir" and i can access it with "http://localhost/foodir/", hmm
[12:23] <T80U> hmm indeed lol
[12:23] <YukiIkyuta> Ah..
[12:23] <T80U> the folders might have been created in windowz?
[12:24] <T80U> would that affect it?
[12:24] <oskude> T80U, does the folders have execute rights ?
[12:24] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, I'm not too sure on that one.
[12:24] <T80U> uhh, ill check
[12:24] <oskude> i just made "sudo chmod -x /var/www/foodir/" and i can see them anymore from browser
[12:24] <oskude> *cant
[12:25] <T80U> for owner
[12:25] <T80U> they have execute
[12:25] <lillo> ok then, I'll reget the whole latest kernel sources and try
[12:25] <T80U> but not for group r others
[12:25] <YukiIkyuta> Good luck.
[12:25] <oskude> T80U, make for all
[12:25] <lillo> tnx :)
[12:25] <oskude> T80U, or
[12:25] <T80U> okay, hmmm i cant seem to i tick the box but it unticks...
[12:25] <oskude> T80U, change owner/group to "www-data"
[12:26] <T80U> cheers
[12:26] <nillas> Hi. I'm trying to get TOR and Privoxy to work, but it seems like I have the same IP as before. I'm not behind any software firewall at the moment but  I have a router.
[12:26] <refnumzx> i'd like to add all the users on my system to a suplimentary group, how can i do this using a script?
[12:26] <T80U> damn - no www data..
[12:26] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, how many do you have?
[12:26] <nillas> I've installed tor and privoxy via this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95527&highlight=tor
[12:26] <refnumzx> 200 or so
[12:26] <T80U> i cant seem to change permissions oskude
[12:27] <nillas> anyone who have the same problem/ a solution?
[12:27] <oskude> T80U, "sudo chown www-data:www-data /path/to/your/dir"
[12:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, the only problem is telling the difference between a `user' (human person) and a `user' (according to the system)
[12:27] <T80U> cheers
[12:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, do you want all the real human users, or just the ones that exist in the system?
[12:27] <refnumzx> real human users
[12:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, in that case, you'll need a list of their user IDs or usernames.
[12:28] <refnumzx> even if i could exclude specific users by just writing those in another listthats fine not that many system accounts
[12:28] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, I'm not aware of any such script which exists, however I could write one.
[12:29] <T80U> well i typed in /var/www
[12:29] <T80U> it told me to enter in my pass which i did
[12:29] <T80U> but its still the same oskude
[12:29] <refnumzx> i was also trying to find a script that would add aysstem and smb acount users from a csv list in a text file, i have tried with awk but have failed
[12:30] <oskude> T80U, you should leave "/var/www" to root user, and only change the directories you cant see in /var/www to user www-data
[12:30] <T80U> oh okay
[12:30] <T80U> thanks oskude
[12:31] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, would you like me to write a script to do this?
[12:31] <refnumzx> that would be really great, if you are willing
[12:31] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, sure. what format should the list of users to exclude be in? (comma separated, newline separated ...)
[12:32] <refnumzx> comma
[12:32] <YukiIkyuta> So just `root,postmaster,' ... etc?
[12:32] <YukiIkyuta> Sure.
[12:33] <T80U> oskude - i changed all the premissions but i still cant see them
[12:34] <T80U> do i need to allow all groups and others to be able to execute?
[12:34] <refnumzx> so if we did username,group,password
[12:34] <oskude> T80U, sec, ill test
[12:34] <T80U> thanks champ
[12:35] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, hang on, what script are you wanting here?
[12:37] <oskude> T80U, hmm, my /var/www/foodir has "drwxr-xr-x  2 www-data www-data" and i can see the file that has "-rw-r--r--  1 root     root        0 2005-12-01 12:22 hello.txt"
[12:37] <T80U> yeah
[12:37] <refnumzx> i guess the more valuable would be the one that adds smb and system accounts using the csv i can use that script and the techniues you use to write the other one. if you don't mind.
[12:37] <T80U> ill give it another go
[12:38] <T80U> oskude - i had to change the read permissions my bad
[12:38] <T80U> thanks for all your help
[12:38] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, ah, okay. I already have a bit of the former one done.
[12:38] <YukiIkyuta> but I can do them both quite quickly.
[12:38] <oskude> T80U, yeah, atleast others should have read right if its not "www-data"
[12:38] <refnumzx> thank you
[12:39] <refnumzx> smbpasswd has this -s switch that i never got to work properly
[12:39] <oskude> T80U, files need read, and directories need read&execute for www-data or "others"
[12:39] <lachesis> hi, I need some serious help to recover from a major system crash : my computer frozed and after i rebooted my file system seems corrupt as it is mounted as read-only... Any idea of what i need to do to fix it ?
[12:39] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm.
[12:39] <T80U> ahh cool okay
[12:39] <conn> hi, when I play a file with mplayer -vo xv, it plays fast but the aspect ratio is messed up, there's a black border at the bottom of the video.. does anyone know how to fix?
[12:40] <refnumzx> because i want to tell smbpasswd to accept passwords from the commandline
[12:40] <T80U> now the phpscript fails - access denied ...
[12:40] <refnumzx> er..the flatflile rather
[12:40] <kvantti> hi! does anyone know of a functional apt-get source for libdvdcss2?
[12:40] <oskude> T80U, script files need execute rightrs for "others" (or www-data)
[12:40] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, it seems to work this way;
[12:41] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, OLDPASS\nNEWPASS\nCONFPASS\n
[12:41] <YukiIkyuta> (ie. smbpasswd -s)
[12:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: use seveas's apt repository
[12:42] <lachesis> kvantti, from the wiki : sudo apt-get install libdvdread3;
[12:42] <lachesis> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[12:43] <T80U> okay - ill have to enable write righs and see if that works oskude
[12:43] <refnumzx> i am sure this is simple for you but i tried and you wouldn't believe the results i got hehehh
[12:43] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, oh?
[12:43] <kvantti> Kamping_Kaiser what should i add to sources.list for that repo?
[12:43] <kvantti> lachesis i am unable to play encrypted dvd even with that library installed
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ Breezy-seveas Breezy-extras
[12:44] <refnumzx> when i tried to add the users using useradd and -g etc, the flatfile gave me the passwords as the usernames and groups as the passwords and all sorts stuff, as well as smbpasswd completely failing to add the user at all
[12:44] <YukiIkyuta> !
[12:44] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:44] <YukiIkyuta> Eek!
[12:45] <YukiIkyuta> Oops.
[12:46] <francoisgez2002_> ~vient
[12:47] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser i added exactly that but apt-get update does not comply with that repo..
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: what does it say?
[12:47] <lachesis> hmm, is it normal to have an empty /boot directory on breezy ?
[12:47] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser couldn't stat source package
[12:48] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser should the source repo be added too?
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: can paste to flood?
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. you can, but i donnt think it's required
[12:48] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser running terminal, no way to copy
[12:48] <oskude> T80U, brb. afk 2min...
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: ok.
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you added the line, ran apt-get update, then it wouldnt download?
[12:49] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser anyway the repo seems to be unfunctional by the looks of the error..will do some more searching
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: sounds like it, but it's usualy there :|
[12:49] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, should it be their primary group (for the group adding program), or just an additional group?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> whats the repo ill try it  a few different ways :)
[12:50] <mbn18> hello, just installed ubuntu. very impressing work
[12:50] <refnumzx> additional
[12:50] <YukiIkyuta> Okay.
[12:51] <refnumzx> ubuntu will create that system group or whatever
[12:51] <YukiIkyuta> Hm?
[12:51] <dpupp> will i run into any issues when recormating a drive that had linux and grub to re-install windows XP? my sister wants out of linux... i guess the penguin bit her and shes afraid now.
[12:52] <lillo> YukiIkyuta, just to let you know, ubuntu package for kernel 2.6.12 doesn't contain a kernel with vesafb-tng patch applied :/
[12:52] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser damn, almost all the dvds out there are unfunctional since i cant install that libdvdcss
[12:52] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, ouch ><
[12:52] <mbn18> I was not able to add gnucash in Add Aplication. i had to ad repositories and only then i found it thrught the advance interface.
[12:52] <mbn18> any idea why ?
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: look in the quick guide in help, it's explains IIRC
[12:53] <refnumzx> dpupp: if you just tell windows to remove al the parttions and reformat them using the utilties on the cd you should be fine
[12:53] <refnumzx> partitions
[12:53] <oskude> T80U, back
[12:54] <dpupp> ok. thanks. Just planning in advanced. I have two machines that want out :( as far as me, im keeping it. everything is flawless except dvd playback. (random issues)
[12:55] <mbn18> how can i add a button of gnucash to the Applcation drop down menu ?
[12:55] <oskude> mbn18, click right mouse button on "applications" then "edit menus"
[12:58] <gnomefreak> gnucash should be under office apps.
[12:58] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, pretty much done #1!
[12:58] <YukiIkyuta> Sorry it's taking a tad longer than expected..
[12:58] <refnumzx> thank you for doing it at all, i definitely appreciate it
[12:59] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, do you have g++ installed?
[12:59] <mbn18> gnomefreak: its not :(
[12:59] <refnumzx> nope, i was hopeing for a shell script buyt i can install it
[12:59] <nAk|Marek> HELP: Hello, I installed Ubuntu for AMD64, having Nvidia 6600GT on pci-e and OpenGL performance is very bad. What can I do? Thx alot
[12:59] <refnumzx> if that will work
[01:00] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, ah, sorry. I can shell script, but no where near as well >< If you could install it, you could compile it yourself.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> mbn18, if you use smeg it should be
[01:00] <mbn18> smeg ?
[01:00] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser just for the info, there is a script to do it in usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples but it does not seem to work
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: what failed?
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think that's where mine came from
[01:01] <gnomefreak> applications>systemtools>menu editer
[01:01] <lachesis> kvantti,  i used the script last week and it worked well for me...
[01:01] <refnumzx> as long as it works i have no objections however you can do it
[01:01] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, the source is here: http://sairyx.org/pub/massga.cpp
[01:01] <YukiIkyuta> (MASS Group Add)
[01:02] <kvantti> hey guys it looks like it ran by just chmodding and running with sudo..silly me
[01:02] <YukiIkyuta> And a simple "g++ -ansi -pedantic -o massga massga.cpp" will compile it.
[01:02] <kvantti> lachesis so do you know that it is now ready for example gxine? or what players?
[01:02] <gallonegro__> how do people have those asci things, when they open terminal?
[01:02] <mbn18> gnomefreak: found it thugh gnucash is not listed. I should add it manualy ?
[01:03] <Mabus06> how do you turn down the brightness in ubuntu? it was turned up in the Doom 3 settings, and after it closed it didn't turn back down
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i thought it would be uder office unless that was the debian list im thinking of :(
[01:03] <JugGeLNuT> hello!?
[01:03] <JugGeLNuT> wow, this is so cool!
[01:03] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, hiya.
[01:03] <kvantti> lachesis what player do you use succesfully? gxine still wont run this "war of the worlds"
[01:04] <lachesis> kvantti, sorry i dont know i didnt try to play a dvd, just riped vobs with dvdbackup command line utility...
[01:04] <JugGeLNuT> im using the live CD of Ubunto 5.04
[01:04] <JugGeLNuT> hehe
[01:04] <JugGeLNuT> very cool!
[01:04] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, neat! ^^
[01:04] <mbn18> gnomefreak < hmmm. im uded to debian too. thugh im quite impressed with unbuto as work station
[01:04] <lachesis> i would try it for you if my system was not totally brocken...
[01:04] <kvantti> ok, well
[01:04] <oskude> JugGeLNuT, is ubunto something else, or was that a typo ?
[01:04] <mbn18> gnomefreak < i assum ill add it manualy
[01:05] <Mabus06> how do you turn down the brightness in ubuntu? it was turned up in the Doom 3 settings, and after it closed it didn't turn back down. Can someone PLEASE help me, I'm going blind here guys.
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> typo
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> hehe Ubuntu
[01:05] <gnomefreak> mbn18, ubuntu=best if you ask me :)
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> i ment
[01:05] <zapata> restart
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, does logging out and in do it?
[01:05] <Mabus06> we'll see
[01:05] <oskude> JugGeLNuT, ok :) you know 5.10 is allso out
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, how are you liking it?
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> ya
[01:05] <gnomefreak> mbn18,  do you know what command starts gnucash?
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> very neat n cool! =)
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> im plnning to DL that 1 too
[01:05] <fabiob> Mabus06, xgamma -gamma 1
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> =)
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, if you can get it, you'll probably like 5.10 even more!
[01:05] <lachesis> I really cant believe it, i was working normally, the system just froze and now every thing is fucked up...
[01:06] <oskude> :)
[01:06] <lachesis> :(
[01:06] <kvantti> lachesis hey lachesis mplayer finally runs but with no sound :(
[01:06] <JugGeLNuT> cool! =)
[01:06] <JugGeLNuT> the Gaim thing is VERY COOL!
[01:06] <JugGeLNuT> by the way
[01:06] <lachesis> well you prolly need to install AC3 support package for mplayer i guess
[01:06] <gnomefreak> im using gaim right now :(
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, definitely. A lot of people use it.
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> I'm using it too. (though not for IRC)
[01:07] <oskude> xchat here :)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> me neither im using it for aim
[01:07] <JugGeLNuT> ya, very neat
[01:07] <JugGeLNuT> =)
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, just curious, did the xgamma command work for you?
[01:07] <BigKahuna> when enabling multiverse and universe what should you apend "multiverse" to the actual name of the repo?
[01:07] <Mabus06> I was alredy in the process of logging out, YukiIkyuta, which worked.
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> BigKahuna, no - do it just like universe.
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, ah, I see. Perhaps next time the xgamma command will work.
[01:09] <refnumzx>  will download that in a sec
[01:09] <refnumzx> thank you
[01:09] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, neat. How do you want the accounts created in the other script?
[01:09] <Mabus06> YukiIkyuta, well I don't *plan* on screwing up my screen again, but we'll see. :D
[01:09] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, haha. XD!
[01:09] <oskude> anyone know of a app that enables me to shoot my desktop icons ? (i have "tilda" installed an i get that FPS feeling;)
[01:09] <YukiIkyuta> oskude, boom!
[01:10] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, was that a package name ?
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, I wish ><
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Actually, tilda is pretty cool!
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Thanks.
[01:11] <oskude> ok :)
[01:11] <kvantti> has anyone solved to corrupted audio problem using mplayer with 5.1 sound? i have terratec aureon 5.1 and logitech x530 and i got an encrypted dvd to run, but with no sound, and would like to do it with alsa output
[01:12] <refnumzx> just it'll read from the csv list in usrname,group,password one account per line, and it'll just create a system user with --shell /bin/false and it will ad the same accountname in smbpasswd
[01:12] <YukiIkyuta> Okay, sure.
[01:12] <kvantti> it seems that i need to install the dts codec for mplayer. any help with that one?
[01:13] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, I assume group is an initial group, or ..?
[01:14] <refnumzx> yup
[01:15] <clarkee> kubuntu rape
[01:15] <clarkee> it kicks ass!
[01:16] <oskude> O.o
[01:16] <YukiIkyuta> :P
[01:18] <oskude> this is creepy... :)
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> How so?
[01:18] <oskude> silence....
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> Just for a tad. -_-
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> in 20 IRC channels :|
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's feaking *me* out :|
[01:18] <aptiko> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a powerpc using xfs.  When it boots for the first time, I get "kernel panic: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)".
[01:19] <lachesis> well
[01:19] <lachesis> i wish someone would talk about my system recovery actually...
[01:19] <oskude> aptiko, do you know in which partition you installed ubuntu ?
[01:19] <aptiko> Yes, it should be /dev/hda3.
[01:20] <aptiko> (I'm now booting from a live cd to check it.)
[01:21] <oskude> aptiko, ok, then in grub (the start menu at boot) go to the ubuntu entry and press "e", then edit the "hd(0,0)" to "hd(0,2)" and press "b"
[01:21] <lachesis> anybody has any idea about what it means when my file system is mounted read-only after a system crash...
[01:21] <aptiko> oskude: No grub.  I've got yaboot.
[01:21] <oskude> aptiko, doh, forgot that :)
[01:21] <aptiko> oskide: But I'll try to see if I can do it on yaboot.
[01:21] <YukiIkyuta> lachesis, have you tried just rebooting it again after that?
[01:22] <oskude> aptiko, theres allso away booting through "open firmware" (if your mac has it)
[01:22] <[A] ndy80> how can I avoid my ubuntu suspend to ram after x minutes I'm not using the notebook and I'm using battery?
[01:22] <lachesis> of course, several times and in recovery mode...
[01:22] <kvantti> it seems that another library called libdts is required for 5.1 sound in mplayer..this seems to be hard to find, so do you happen to know about it?
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> kvantti, I just realised now my two rear speakers aren't playing!
[01:23] <lachesis> YukiIkyuta : but anyway my options are rather limited since I cant actually edit anything being in read-only mode...
[01:23] <kvantti> yukiikayta i have the same thing, but i believe the reason is that the rear speakers only function with true 5.1 sound
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> lachesis, true. You could try to remount. Typically, it just means that it's fixed it, but wants you to reboot anyway.
[01:24] <YukiIkyuta> kvantti, weird.
[01:25] <refnumzx> YukiIkyuta: for the excluse list, what format should that be in, and what filename?
[01:25] <kvantti> yukiikyuta if you need a solve for 5.1 sound, you could check out this site http://developers.videolan.org/libdca.html
[01:25] <oskude> [A] ndy80, have you looken under System>Preferences or >Administration ? (i never had/used suspend, sry)
[01:25] <oskude> *looked
[01:25] <oskude> doh
[01:25] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, just have the list as a comma separated list: "root,postmaster,cupsys,sys,..etc
[01:26] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, it can be whatever name you like, as it'll want it as an argument.
[01:26] <refnumzx> okay
[01:26] <YukiIkyuta> kvantti, I'll look into it ..
[01:26] <refnumzx> thanks a lot for this one, the next one will be much much much morevaluable though ehh
[01:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, no problems, and this one is almost done too ^^
[01:27] <YukiIkyuta> You wanted /bin/false shell, right?
[01:27] <Mabus06> When installing quake2 and quake2-data from the repos, I start the game and it gives me this error; ""Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[01:27] <Mabus06> "... any ideas?
[01:28] <kvantti> yukiikyuta the thing we need is libdts, but synaptic does not hold it thanks to bill gates and friends, ;)
[01:28] <refnumzx> yup
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> oKtosiTe_, good.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> Oops.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> oKtosiTe_, good.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> !?
[01:28] <ubotu> I don't know, YukiIkyuta
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> What the..
[01:28] <lachesis> YukiIkyuta, i tried to remount everything, which worked in the way that i didnt get error message but i still get Read-Only File Sytem any time i try to write something...
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> It keeps expanding it ..
[01:28] <aptiko> oskude: yaboot tells me that I caould specify "device" and "partno" parameters, and that if I don't, the defaults are "device=/pci@f40000000/ata-6@d/disk@0" and "partition=3".  So yaboot must be having the correct information.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> lachesis, I've had that problem too.
[01:29] <oskude> aptiko, hmm
[01:29] <lachesis> also I noticed that the /boot directory is empty and i dont think that is normal
[01:29] <aptiko> I think I'd like to have an ext3 root partition of, say 300M,
[01:29] <aptiko> and have all the rest in another partition (I think the problem could be the xfs).
[01:29] <enderson_> eee
[01:30] <aptiko> Is it possible to install ubuntu in such a way that /var, /usr and /home are all in the same partition?
[01:30] <oskude> aptiko, you can have all (except swap) in one partition
[01:30] <YukiIkyuta> aptiko, yes, of course.
[01:30] <oskude> aptiko, if you just define "/" partition at install, all others are in there
[01:31] <potus> ?package kde
[01:31] <potus> !package kde
[01:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, potus
[01:31] <oskude> Mabus06, google: http://www.planetquake.com/features/techtips/techtips010303_b.shtml
[01:31] <mjr> aptiko, you might have to do some manual setting up of symlinks and/or bind-mounts for that, but possible? sure
[01:31] <mjr> (I'm not sure if the installer's partitioner supports defining bind mounts)
[01:32] <potus> i installed ubuntu 5.10 server,  just bear console.  im tring to get kde now.  can someone tell me packages?
[01:32] <oskude> potus, try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu" (could someone confirm?)
[01:32] <Nuck> hi
[01:32] <onkarshinde> potus: install kubuntu-desktop and it will install all needed.
[01:34] <oskude> potus, ah, ok "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (i admit, never installed kde:)
[01:34] <sorush20> guys where can I find information on the ubuntu partitioning software?
[01:34] <onkarshinde> sorush20: DO you mean gparted? It is very easy to use.
[01:35] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I mean the partitioning tool that Kubuntu installation uses.. is there a manual on it..
[01:35] <oskude> Mabus06, found also something in ubuntuforums.org http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75305
[01:36] <lachesis> can someone confirm that /boot is not suposed to be empty on breezy ?
[01:36] <potus> oskude: then i just run startx from console to run it correct?
[01:36] <fred87> hi, non-ubuntu user here, can someone tell me where I can find any source patches used in ubuntu-64?
[01:36] <oskude> potus, in theory, yes :)
[01:36] <djk_> sorush20:  http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/ ?
[01:36] <Nuck> i'm having a problem with hedgehog, I am trying to use dialup. The modem initalises, and dials the number... but firefox won't connect. I can't even ping out
[01:36] <potus> yeah i just dont want that gui login start to xwindows... i want to login to console.. and installing the package shouldnt install gdm correct?
[01:37] <kvantti> yukiikuyta the libdts package can be found at http://debian.unnet.
[01:37] <kvantti> nl/pub/videolan/libdts/0.0.2/ libdts-0.0.2.tar.gz
[01:37] <nAk|Marek> I'am having troubles with nVidia 6600GT PCIx on Ubuntu AMD64 (i have nvidia-glx) - it is slow.. what to do?
[01:37] <onkarshinde> sorush20: you are asking wrong channel. Try in #kubuntu
[01:37] <sorush20> what program can I use to find deleted files on the partition?
[01:37] <oskude> potus, if you installed "kubuntu" i assume it uses "kdm"
[01:37] <tristan> hi all
[01:37] <onkarshinde> lachesis: Yup, it is not supposed to be empty
[01:37] <sorush20> tristan: hi
[01:37] <djk_> onkarshinde: why is he asking in the wrong channel?
[01:38] <aptiko> mjr: So I create the root partition and the second partition, make symlinks from the root partition to the second partition for /usr, /var and /home, then start the ubuntu installer and tell it to mount these partitions and install there while preserving existing data, so it will follow the symlinks?
[01:38] <onkarshinde> djk_: He asked about qtparted that comes with kubuntu, and though people here may be using kubuntu he will get more help in that channel
[01:39] <onkarshinde> aptiko: what do you exactly want to do?
[01:39] <djk_> onkarshinde: aha, and which partitioning program does Ubuntu use my dear friend?
[01:39] <lachesis> onkarshinde, thx but then how the hell can the system even boot ???
[01:39] <potus> onkarshinde:  if i apt-get remove kdm  that should fix that problem correct?
[01:39] <lachesis> i dont get it
[01:39] <aptiko> onkarshinde:  Have two partitions: a root partition, and a usr+var+home.
[01:39] <onkarshinde> djk_: gparted (if installed) or just console based parted
[01:39] <cusco> or fdisk or cfdisk
[01:40] <cusco> or there are so many
[01:40] <Mabus06> Yes thanks oskude but I found that site as well and the file mentioned at the end is not found in mycomputer
[01:40] <cusco> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[01:40] <tristan> I already asked that question yesterday but....
[01:41] <onkarshinde> potus: Sorry, I don't know much about how kdm works. But you can actually install it and still disable it from services so that you login to console on bootup.
[01:41] <djk_> onkarshinde: i know my dear friend, but he was asking about the installation...
[01:41] <nAk|Marek> I'am having troubles with nVidia 6600GT PCIx on Ubuntu AMD64 (i have nvidia-glx) - it is slow.. what to do?
[01:41] <oskude> Mabus06, sorry, never installed quake2...
[01:41] <potus> onkarshinde: initd?
[01:41] <tristan> I have trouble with smeg. It doesn't make the modification I made to my menus even though when I relaunch smeg they appear in the program...
[01:41] <potus> nak: i had troubles too then i just reverted back to winblows on that box.
[01:41] <cusco> tristan: try killall gnome-panel
[01:41] <onkarshinde> potus: perhaps. I am not sure if there is a GUI for that in KUbuntu. There is one in Ubuntu.
[01:42] <tristan> cusco : alreay done
[01:42] <tristan> Even rebooted
[01:42] <Mabus06> oskude, it really should be fixed in the next Ubuntu release... I installed quake2 and quake2-data without messing with anything and it does not work.
[01:42] <onkarshinde> aptiko: DO you mean you already have Ubuntu installed and you want to move data (home+usr+var) to new partitions?
[01:42] <potus> onkarshinde: yeah my main concern is using them gnome printer thing to setup my samba printers because i cant seem to setup cups from console =/
[01:42] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, can you create an account with smbpasswd alone? Or does it rely on the normal passwd file anyway?
[01:42] <nAk|Marek> potus: I dont want to :( -on my previous instalation on athlon xp / nv 5900XT was everything OK..
[01:42] <sorush20> guys what is the java package in the repositories?
[01:42] <aptiko> onkarshinde:  No, I want a new ubuntu installation.
[01:42] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, or do I use -a or something ..
[01:42] <oskude> Mabus06, yeah, quake2 is crusial for ubuntu :)
[01:43] <sorush20> topic
[01:43] <oskude> Mabus06, you could mail the package maintainer and ask for help
[01:43] <potus> nak: u should recompile latest kernel for best compadibility
[01:43] <onkarshinde> aptiko: Then you can make partitions in installation procedure
[01:43] <refnumzx> it relies on the password to be in smbpasswd
[01:43] <refnumzx> er.
[01:43] <oskude> Mabus06, or if its so important for you, i could try to install it too and see...
[01:43] <refnumzx> the account needs toexist according tu the system before smbpasswd will create it
[01:44] <nAk|Marek> potus: well, are you sure that this will help? I dont want to waste even more time..
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, ah. I see... okay, simple.
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> Almost done!!
[01:44] <potus> nak: what exactly is the problem?
[01:45] <aptiko> onkarshinde: I want a small ext3 root partition, and I want /usr+/var+/home be together in another partition, that is the problem.  Can I do this in the installation procedure?  Or do I have to make some preparation with symlinking?
[01:45] <Mabus06> oskude, it's certainly a popular game for linux. And it's on the default ubuntu repos. So yeah, I think anything in there should work as intended.
[01:46] <Killer_Smurf> x
[01:46] <onkarshinde> aptiko: hmm, that sure is problem.
[01:46] <oskude> Mabus06, quake2 is in multiverse (and thats not ubuntu "default")
[01:46] <onkarshinde> aptiko: I use separate /usr and everything else goes under /
[01:46] <slept> aptiko, why do you want to partiton such a strange way you'll have a problem mounting /usr /var
[01:47] <tristan> So, nobody has trouble with smeg?
[01:47] <kvantti> can someone help me out with compiling libdts..what else should i do but ./configure and make? .. doing that does not work
[01:47] <slept> aptiko, maybe you want /boot and the rest with lvm ?
[01:47] <onkarshinde> aptiko: why don't you just create three partitions, /usr, /home, /
[01:47] <Mara007> tristan: did you restarted gnome-panel?
[01:47] <djk_> kvantti: make install perhaps?
[01:47] <onkarshinde> tristan: I used it and no problem.
[01:48] <potus> has anyone got silicon raid image to work with ubuntu 5.10?
[01:48] <tristan> yes. I made killall gnome-panel nautilus. I even reboot the comp. And still when I launch smeg the modification appears in smeg but not in the menus
[01:48] <djk_> silicon raid..mmh sounds like boobies..
[01:48] <slept> kvantti, you can try checkinstall that will make you a removable .deb
[01:48] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:48] <Nuck> i'm having a problem with hedgehog, I am trying to use dialup. The modem initalises, and dials the number... but firefox won't connect. I can't even ping out. Any ideas?
[01:49] <potus> nuck does modem hang up or u still connected?
[01:49] <aptiko> onkarshinde, slept:  1) I want the root partition to be ext3 and the rest to be xfs; I want /var to also be xfs  2) I don't want /var, /home, and /usr to be separate partitions, because I don't want to make decisions how much space to give to each.  I just want a small 300M ext3 root partition for easy booting, and all the rest in another, which will be the rest of the disk.
[01:49] <Nuck> still connected
[01:49] <Mara007> tristan: and whe you run smeg again, does it apear that changes you have made are saved?
[01:50] <ompaul> Nuck, try pinging 193.95.132.18
[01:50] <Mara007> tristan: I didn't have any problems with it at all
[01:50] <onkarshinde> Nuck: Perhaps you need to set ppp0 as default gateway from System->Administration->Networking
[01:50] <potus> aptiko: i just say u use ext3 all the way =P
[01:50] <parker> #ubuntu-es
[01:50] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:50] <enderson_> ol, algum poderia me dizer como fao para acessar o meu hd escravo, acabei de instalar o umbuto e estou tendo dificuldades
[01:50] <tristan> Mara007 : yes it shows every modification I made. But they do not appear in the gnome menu. That's what I don't understant
[01:50] <ompaul> !es
[01:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:50] <slept> aptiko, I think it'll give you trouble mounting one partition at 3 dirs
[01:50] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, done!
[01:50] <Nuck> onkarshinde: it is already set as default
[01:51] <onkarshinde> aptiko: See if you can figure out how to use LVM
[01:51] <refnumzx> cool stuff
[01:51] <kvantti> djk slept it seems to run by some parts, but on others it tells me "nothing to be done"
[01:51] <Mabus06> What is the reason one might use older versions of ubuntu? Laziness?
[01:51] <Mara007> tristan: :(( I have no idea.. sory
[01:51] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, http://sairyx.org/pub/massaa.cpp (MASS Account Adder)
[01:51] <ompaul> Mabus06, cos it is all you have and you have dialup
[01:51] <onkarshinde> Nuck: Is it only problem with FF?
[01:51] <refnumzx> url?
[01:51] <kvantti> and i still got corrupted 5.1 sound in mplayer
[01:51] <Mara007> anyway, ubuntu us cool even without it ;-)
[01:51] <YukiIkyuta> Compile with "g++ -wall -lcrypt ansi -pedantic -o massaa massaa.cpp"
[01:51] <aptiko> onkarshinde:  OK, I'll check LVM, thanks is it hard to learn?  I hardly know what it is and I don't want to spend a week.
[01:51] <tristan> Is your smeg can only be run as root. I cannot run smeg as myself
[01:51] <Nuck> onkarshinde: no, i cannot even ping out. it's like there's no connection
[01:51] <potus> djk_: have u done the raid b4?
[01:52] <slept> aptiko, why do you want ext3 ?  for booting you need /boot (50MB)
[01:52] <onkarshinde> Nuck: Maybe this is something related to IPv6. See if you can find anything on wiki
[01:52] <djk_> potus: no :( that's why i use linux
[01:52] <Nuck> onkarshinde: thanks
[01:52] <Mara007> tristan; I was runnint smeg as common user
[01:52] <richard> lo
[01:52] <aptiko> slept:  Mounting shouldn't be a problem;  there will be /secondpartition/usr, /secondpartition/var, and /secondpartition/home, and symlinks pointing there.  So only one directory will be mounted, /secondpartition.
[01:52] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:52] <Mabus06> ompaul, but they send you breezy cds free?
[01:52] <djk_> potus: gives me an excuse you know :)
[01:52] <richard> Im asuming this chat channel is for linux discussion.
[01:52] <tristan> Mara007 : doesn't allow me to run it as myself
[01:52] <potus> djk_: i have 2 sda drives and i want a raid for data recovery: what ar emy options?
[01:53] <Tuntis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=532641#post532641 <- anyone... know a solution?
[01:53] <YukiIkyuta> richard, yep.
[01:53] <ompaul> Nuck, ur in nui in galway - download and grab breezy it will make your life easier
[01:53] <ompaul> Mabus06, you may not know that
[01:53] <Nuck> aye, doing it now :)
[01:53] <Seveas> richard, this channel is for Ubuntu support, not general linux discussion
[01:53] <onkarshinde> richard: This is basically Ubuntu Linux channel and we hope you don't ask RedHat questions here
[01:53] <slept> aptiko, lvm is very easy. you make a physical volume in there a volumegroup ant in there the logicalvolumes(which you can mount)
[01:53] <aptiko> slept:  I can only boot from /boot?  What about the kernel modules? Are they in boot?  Or in /lib?  If they are in /lib I have a problem, as I may need modules to read the other filesystem.
[01:53] <richard> I have justr installed ubuntu
[01:53] <djk_> potus: heh, i thought we were talking about mounting booby raids ?
[01:53] <ompaul> Nuck, also if you really want mail ilug and somone over that way will burn you a cd if you hav not get the resouces
[01:53] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, tell me how it goes! :)
[01:54] <potus> djk_: idk what a
[01:54] <Nuck> ompaul: sound, thanks mate
[01:54] <richard> I am a begginer to linux
[01:54] <ompaul> Nuck, they can hand it to you under the spanish arch :P
[01:54] <potus> 'booby raid' is
[01:54] <richard> I want an SQL database and Client application to work on it.
[01:54] <potus> hehe ..  im jsut tring to get silicon raid image a /dev/something so i can cp my filesystem to it and edit fstab
[01:54] <Nuck> :)
[01:54] <djk_> potus: but seriously, i havent had any use for a raid, so i can't help you. check the wiki.
[01:54] <Mara007> tristan: it looks like there is something wrong, iam running ti like me "marek"
[01:54] <djk_> potus: hehe, you're so innocent ;)
[01:55] <ompaul> Nuck, don't go anywhere til I fon
[01:55] <onkarshinde> richard: then you need mysql
[01:55] <potus> djk_: i got the right idea right?
[01:55] <Nuck> ompaul, !! :O
[01:55] <slept> aptiko, no but if you do a root lvm you need to create a seperate /boot grub  can't handle lvm. the initrd contains the modules for your filesystems
[01:55] <potus> mod kernel get /dev/something... then it should be all set.
[01:55] <ompaul> Nuck, there is a ubuntu-ie
[01:55] <richard> Yes MySql, like in windows XP, with a nice GUI client to adminster it
[01:55] <Nuck> aye, i know :)
[01:55] <djk_> potus: i'd assume so.
[01:55] <Nuck> i'm downloading it now ompaul
[01:55] <richard> the package manager doesnt give me any new icons.
[01:55] <onkarshinde> richard: Do you know how to use apt-get to install packages?
[01:55] <ompaul> okay
[01:56] <potus> damm.. so no one has done anything with raid as the primary file system in here?
[01:56] <onkarshinde> richard: have you enabled repositories?
[01:56] <richard> yeh im working it out,
[01:56] <richard> no I think Il do more reading before anoyying ppl
[01:57] <onkarshinde> richard: one simple command, 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and uncomment repositories
[01:57] <ompaul> richard, I'll get the bot to give you some suggested reading if you want
[01:57] <oskude> Mabus06, did you read "apt-cache show quake2-data" but i admit i dont know how to use that :)
[01:57] <Ng> potus: I installed onto a software raid1 array once
[01:57] <richard> ok cool
[01:57] <A-Go> hello
[01:57] <onkarshinde> !tell richard about synaptic
[01:57] <potus> Ng: how u manage that i tried a software raid1 it wouldnt work during install.
[01:58] <potus> made raid partiton and kept giving me some error.
[01:58] <A-Go> any evolution users there?
[01:58] <A-Go> here?
[01:58] <refnumzx> i will test this later, thanks a lot for al of this
[01:58] <Mabus06> if you don't oskude, then I definately dont
[01:58] <Mabus06> lol
[01:58] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, no problems, and good luck! I hope it works out.
[01:58] <Ng> potus: I think I made a plain /boot and then put a partition on each disk to be the raid'd /
[01:58] <ompaul> richard, that should keep you busy for a few minutes :-)
[01:58] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:59] <YukiIkyuta> Mara007, got the nVidia drivers installed?
[01:59] <Mabus06> Mara007, try #nvidia
[01:59] <Ng> Mara007: search the wiki, there are instructions for installing the nvidia driver
[01:59] <Ng> it's very easy
[01:59] <YukiIkyuta> Mara007, they're here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:00] <Mara007> thanks - ofcourse I have driver installed - but performance is bad - Iam expecting about 90FPS in enemy territory and I gets about 40
[02:00] <A-Go> how can i remove gnome-games while keeping ubuntu-desktop?
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> Mara007, is it in WINE?
[02:00] <richard> anyone know of a pure java bug tracking system with flat file database ?
[02:00] <iustin> hello everyone, i believe i have a silly question. Everything function at the best, but the single problem is with the codecs - i can`t play mp3 and avi and wmv
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> A-Go, try apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop +gnome-games
[02:00] <richard> thanks om paul, Ive saved that info to file on my desktop
[02:01] <refnumzx> this is correct compile for mass account add?
[02:01] <refnumzx> "g++ -wall -lcrypt ansi -pedantic -o massaa
[02:01] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:01] <Siph0n> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/NVIDIA_graphics_drivers#Debian <---- for nvidia drivers
[02:01] <djk_> !restricted
[02:01] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, missing the last word: massaa.cpp
[02:01] <potus> Ng: yeah i tried doing that.. wouldnt work for me =/
[02:01] <Siph0n> what i used to get UT2004 to work :)
[02:01] <oskude> Mabus06, try "dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data" :) (i read /usr/share/doc/quake2-data/README.Debian)
[02:01] <Mara007> YukiIkyuta no.. it is linux native binary .x86.. Iam running AMD64 ubuntu
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> Ah..
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> That's quite weird.
[02:01] <Siph0n> lol i think
[02:01] <Ng> Mara007: run "glxinfo | grep -i vendor", does it say nvidia three times?
[02:02] <oskude> Mabus06, but sadly it wont find anything on the shareware downloads...
[02:02] <Mara007> Ng dont know exactly (Iam at work now) but probably YES, there is a nv logo when starting xserver
[02:03] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:03] <Mara007> ..must leave for a while.. thanks anyway
[02:03] <djk_> iustin: did you get what ubotu sent you?
[02:04] <SanderD> "No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper." -- Why? And when will it appear in Dapper?
[02:04] <refnumzx>      /quit
[02:04] <kvantti> if anyone of you could bother to see http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/libdca.html?hl=com&cs=libdca:PN:0:0:0:0                                and help me out with installing this package. the reward is i think functional 5.1 sound in mplayer with encrypted dvd:s
[02:05] <trip|do0b> does anybody knows how you can use multiple buffers in bash?
[02:05] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:05] <YukiIkyuta> trip|do0b, what do you imply with the word `buffer'?
[02:06] <oskude> Mabus06, i now found a quake2 demo through google, ill try if that works...
[02:06] <oNe^somewhere> can i reinstall windows without messing up grub and my install of ubuntu ?
[02:06] <P0406125> c qui
[02:06] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, it's very difficult to not mess up GRUB.
[02:06] <p0505616> dededede
[02:06] <p0505616> cool
[02:06] <p0505616> a marche
[02:06] <P0205021> moi tu me vois?
[02:06] <p0505616> ouai
[02:06] <YukiIkyuta> p0505616, English?
[02:06] <P0406125> ok
[02:07] <oNe^somewhere> can i save the files from grub and reinstall them after ?
[02:07] <oskude> Mabus06, cot a crappy server, capped to 100kb/s... ~5min...
[02:07] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, it's not that simple, unfortunately..
[02:07] <McScruff>  does anyone know how to get firefox videos in sync with sound?
[02:07] <YukiIkyuta> Do you have the CD you used to install? Or even the live CD?
[02:07] <P0205021> tu mentend
[02:07] <oNe^somewhere> i have the ubuntu cd not the live 1 tho
[02:07] <YukiIkyuta> P0205021, Anglais?
[02:07] <p0505616> moi ouai
[02:08] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:08] <oskude> alex__, google ?
[02:08] <YukiIkyuta> p0505616, vous parlez anglais?
[02:08] <oNe^somewhere> i know u can reinstall grub from the cd but u still need to configure it
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, the configuration is installed on the harddrive.
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> So you can use that configuration still.
[02:09] <oNe^somewhere> if posible can i save files (and which files do i save ) and put them back after
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, as I said, you don't do it that way.
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> There aren't specific files to save.
[02:10] <YukiIkyuta> When Windows is installed, it overwrites something called the Master Boot Record (MBR).
[02:10] <ompaul> !fr
[02:10] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:10] <YukiIkyuta> So you must reinstall GRUB to the MBR using the Live CD, typically.
[02:10] <oNe^somewhere> yes .. i found that out
[02:10] <YukiIkyuta> Good.
[02:10] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, isnt there command like "lilo" ?
[02:11] <oNe^somewhere> if this ubuntu is as good as it's sposed to be i'm gonna be stuck coz winblows always needs fixin
[02:11] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, there is, except we're using GRUB, so one types "grub" instead.
[02:11] <YukiIkyuta> grub-install*, indeed
[02:11] <trip|do0b> exit
[02:12] <oNe^somewhere> let me find somethin for ya YukiIkyuta
[02:12] <oNe^somewhere> a article in the wiki i think
[02:12] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, yes..
[02:12] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, yes..?
[02:12] <YukiIkyuta> "grub-install /dev/YOURHARDDRIVEDEVICEHERE"
[02:12] <YukiIkyuta> Typically as root.
[02:12] <SanderD> Does anyone know when Firefox 1.5 will be available using apt-get?
[02:13] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, you have right :) .. but he can do that even with gentoo installation disc...chmod?
[02:13] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, I shoul dthink so.
[02:13] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, as in the channel's topic, not until after it's in Dapper.
[02:13] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: But when will it be in Dapper?
[02:13] <oskude> Mabus06, are you still there ? my quake2 works :)
[02:13] <YukiIkyuta> After Dapper is released in.. April, or so. o_O
[02:13] <Mabus06> how, oskude ?
[02:14] <Sonderblade> i accidentally removed /var/log/user.log, how do i get it back so that syslogging will work?
[02:14] <oskude> Mabus06, get quake 2 demo somewhere (google) and then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data" and read the instructions
[02:14] <oskude> Mabus06, i got mine from here http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=64
[02:14] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade, typically syslogging will just work anyway. Restarting may recreate the file.
[02:15] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: Really? Doesn't it appear in the repositories or something first? It would be strange to let users wait until April for a software update...
[02:15] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: it doesn't
[02:15] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade, peculiar!
[02:15] <theD3viL> SanderD, you can always compile i
[02:15] <theD3viL> t
[02:15] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, well, it's quite weird, but I'm taking a look at the channel topic, which appears to be the authoriative!
[02:15] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: i probably have to set the right perms/ownerships
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, have you seen it?
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> It's 330MiB extracted, of source.
[02:16] <bachstudies> does anyone know how to cre
[02:16] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, what..FF 1.5 ?
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> Yeah.
[02:16] <theD3viL> nope....no need
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> ?
[02:16] <theD3viL> no need to see it
[02:16] <bachstudies> sorry....is it possible to mount a writable NTFS windows partition?
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> Ohmer, well.
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> No need, but what I mean is, it's quite a beast to compile.
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, there's no NTFS write support (yet).
[02:16] <theD3viL> bachstudies, yes, www.ubuntuwiki.org
[02:17] <theD3viL> oh...write..sry
[02:17] <william__> hey has an update for Firefox 1.5 been done for Ubuntu?
[02:17] <SanderD> theD3viL: I know, but I chose Ubuntu for it's packaging system.
[02:17] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: Dappers seems to be available somehow already, so I guess Fx 1.5 will be available sooner too... Well, maybe I just have to compile it myself indeed....
[02:17] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, is it just me, or does that site not work.
[02:17] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, Dapper is not ready for quite some time.
[02:17] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, is there a way when I copy from NTFS to linux desktop to not have it created as a locked file?
[02:17] <theD3viL> SanderD, then use Debian sid
[02:17] <kvantti> would someone know where to aqcuire the libdca library?
[02:18] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, as in not owned by root?
[02:18] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, you should set the umask appropriately when you mount it.
[02:18] <bobbyd> hi
[02:18] <SanderD> theD3viL: That's the testing version of Debian? Isn't that what the Drake development version is about too?
[02:18] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, just today I had a problem with that, all the directories weren't traversable, so I wrote a script in PHP to fix it.
[02:18] <oNe^somewhere> YukiIkyuta,  will this work .. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/proc.html#AEN72
[02:18] <bobbyd> what's a good program to use to make webpages for beginners? something like frontpage but not from MS?
[02:19] <oskude> bobbyd, "nvu" (but ive never used it)
[02:19] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, unfortunately, not quite.
[02:19] <theD3viL> SanderD, yes...thats debian unstable, but i think in testing (etch) debian is firefox 1.5 too
[02:19] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, dont works for me too o.O
[02:19] <bobbyd> can open office save as a web page?
[02:19] <oNe^somewhere> lol ... whats the not quiet bit ?
[02:19] <oskude> bobbyd, yes (i think:)
[02:19] <alex__> how can I see the log file, in the router cisco?
[02:19] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, its setup is a bit different to Ubuntu's.
[02:20] <SanderD> theD3viL: ok... Can't I download and install a .deb and file for debian unstable then?
[02:20] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, that's the smart thing to do! xD
[02:20] <kvantti> so, now i just need to get libdca installed so if someone would help it would greatly be appreciated :) the package is at http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/libdca.rar                                and it provides functional 5.1 sound with libdvdcss which makes possible to play encrypted dvd's
[02:20] <oNe^somewhere> so i need the live cd to reinstall windows and grub then ?
[02:20] <theD3viL> SanderD, no if you wanna have new packages install debian testing (etch)
[02:20] <mjcg> Hello
[02:21] <mjcg> ;)
[02:21] <mjcg> Bye bye!
[02:21] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, or the install CD should work too... I think.
[02:21] <kvantti> about the strange url: the library is extremely rare
[02:21] <SanderD> theD3viL: But then I'd have to reinstall my OS... Well, maybe I should just compile it then. Thanks for the info!
[02:21] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, no!
[02:22] <oNe^somewhere> last time i tried the install cd it had no entries in the grub menu and as i am fairly new to linux (and grub) i wasn't sure how to edit them
[02:22] <theD3viL> If i upgrade debian or ubuntu ... where goes old packages and files??
[02:22] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, you don't have to reinstall the packages.
[02:22] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, I mean, you don't have to reinstall the OS. You can use etch's deb.
[02:22] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, I'll get the address for you..
[02:22] <SanderD> yes? okay :-)
[02:23] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, If i upgrade debian or ubuntu ... where goes old packages and files??
[02:23] <Mabus06> Are there official "breezy badger" images anywhere that would be suitable for backgrounds and/or login screen?
[02:23] <kyncani> theD3viL: into oblivion
[02:23] <oNe^somewhere> or is it even possible to make a install cd from my current installation (to save downloading packages again) ?
[02:23] <RustyJames> oNe^somewhere, if you want to save the bootmenu you have to save the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, I'm not quite sure if they go anywhere at all.
[02:23] <theD3viL> kyncani, what is oblivion?
[02:23] <YukiIkyuta> heh!
[02:23] <RustyJames> or whereever your boot partition is
[02:24] <kyncani> theD3viL: they get deleted !
[02:24] <rraajj> How do I take a screenshot in Kubuntu? The print screen button doesn't work, which is weird.
[02:24] <theD3viL> kyncani, sure ?
[02:24] <_jason> rraajj, you could use the gimp, for a button you could try to ask in #kubuntu
[02:24] <YukiIkyuta> Okay..
[02:24] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Ff%2Ffirefox%2Ffirefox_1.4.99%2B1.5rc3.dfsg-2_i386.deb&md5sum=27e677c62e04ca92ec8d40dd15e2c0d3&arch=i386&type=main
[02:24] <kvantti> sorry about that false url http://debian.unnet.nl/pub/videolan/libdts/0.0.2/libdts-0.0.2.tar.gz                    i really need help with installing this, pleease.
[02:24] <YukiIkyuta> What a mouthful.
[02:24] <rraajj> _jason: Okay, thanks!
[02:25] <kyncani> theD3viL: for packages which are upgraded, yes.
[02:25] <kyncani> theD3viL: and you can use debfoster to remove old dependencies.
[02:25] <Mabus06> Are there official "breezy badger" images anywhere that would be suitable for backgrounds and/or login screen?
[02:25] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: Thanks! Though that's RC3, but I'll look for the final version there (maybe that hasn't been released in Etch yet?)
[02:25] <oNe^somewhere> RustyJames, do u have 5 mins for a pm ?
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> maybe less
[02:26] <YukiIkyuta> Uh..
[02:26] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[02:26] <RustyJames> oNe^somewhere, yes
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> k
[02:26] <theD3viL> kyncani, eh...that too bad...when will be new version ill format
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> can u pm me plz
[02:26] <RustyJames> k
[02:26] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, it doesn't look like it's been released here yet, no.
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> <---not registered (yet)
[02:26] <sorush20> is there a way that I could search a partition for deleted files?
[02:26] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, I have successfully changed some of my files and directories to 755 but the subdirectories don't change...is there a quick way to fix this?
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, taking a quick look over them all, it doesn't look like it's yet in Etch.
[02:27] <theD3viL> sorush20, i think isnt
[02:27] <kyncani> theD3viL: in ubuntu and debian stable, new versions only fix security fixes. So they (should not) introduce new bugs.
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, chmod -R 0755 (wherever)
[02:27] <oNe^somewhere> damn ...it dont work
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> whereever*
[02:27] <sorush20> theD3viL: why?
[02:27] <sorush20>  there must be a way
[02:27] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, great thanks
[02:27] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta, I'll just keep watching that page. Thanks for the link!
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, good luck!
[02:27] <oskude> kvantti, i can help you to compile, but i cant say if it will work...
[02:28] <_jason> sorush20, it is complicated, may or may not work and I have never tried it: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Ext2fs-Undeletion.html#s2 and http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Ext2fs-Undeletion-Dir-Struct.html
[02:28] <RustyJames> whats the problrm?
[02:28] <kvantti> oskude thankyou very much. the ./configure just ran with no errors
[02:28] <theD3viL> kyncani, no..example: ooo1.4 > ooo2.0
[02:28] <theD3viL> sorush20, couse ext3 doesnt support that
[02:28] <theD3viL> sorush20, windows does, ntfs does
[02:28] <oskude> kvantti, ok, then do "make"
[02:28] <oNe^somewhere> i dont know
[02:29] <sorush20> theD3viL: damn
[02:29] <RustyJames> oNe^somewhere, join channel  #grubproblem
[02:29] <kyncani> theD3viL: that only happen when you switch from one ubuntu release to another. Not during and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:29] <kvantti> oskude and make install?
[02:29] <oskude> kvantti, wait a sec
[02:29] <kvantti> oskude i believe it did no run for everything, is this ok?
[02:29] <theD3viL> kyncani, yes when dist-upgrade .. i know...
[02:30] <sorush20> hi
[02:30] <oskude> kvantti, im not a pro, but i would advice to use "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install"
[02:30] <oskude> kvantti, that way you can uninstall it with "dpkg -r <packagenam>" but
[02:30] <kvantti> oskude the checkinstall command is not found..missing lib?
[02:30] <oskude> kvantti, most sources bring allso "make uninstall" so take what you want :)
[02:31] <sorush20> theD3viL: I partitioned all my data into a smaller partition, then used the free space to create a hda2,
[02:31] <oskude> kvantti, "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[02:31] <deltron> apt-get install chckinstall
[02:31] <sorush20> theD3viL: then I copied my files from the hda1 to hda2,
[02:31] <topyli> checkinstall will save the world's children!
[02:32] <deltron> lol
[02:32] <oskude> kvantti, when you use check install, remember to give it a name an a version NUMBER (it will ask for you then)
[02:32] <theD3viL> sorush20, ... what do you want to tell with this ?
[02:32] <oskude> kvantti, eeh, "checkinstall"
[02:33] <sorush20> theD3viL: all my files were about 60gb, when I partitioned my data into smaller 60gb partitions all the root directories were there but the files and other subfolders are missing, this is why I want to be able to find out what has happened to my files?
[02:33] <topyli> sorush20: you didn't copy them
[02:33] <kvantti> oskude thankyou very much i had been wondering about compiling "installation succesfull"
[02:33] <sorush20> topyli: what do you mean?
[02:33] <topyli> sorush20: cp will omit directories unless you use -a
[02:34] <bamboozle> hi
[02:34] <oskude> kvantti, but its not yet quarantieed that it will work on your (ubuntu) system...
[02:34] <YukiIkyuta> topyli, -r is better for that.
[02:34] <kvantti> oskude, yeah i think it did not install in "libavcodec" which is the right one, so i will try some cp
[02:34] <topyli> sorush20: -r like YukiIkyuta says of course
[02:34] <oskude> kvantti, sec
[02:35] <oskude> kvantti, you can give "./configure" some flags to put all in right places try "./configure --help"
[02:36] <topyli> kvantti: if you make packages (with checkinstall), you may want to install the packages in /usr. so, use .configure --prefix=/usr
[02:36] <sorush20> topyli: but I used the partition tool to copy all the data and also initially I chose the option to create a partition from the free space and not the used which meant that my original used space hda1  should have remained intact.
[02:36] <oskude> kvantti, self compiled (generic) sources are mostly "installed" to /usr/local/
[02:36] <sorush20> topyli: theD3viL http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5261
[02:36] <topyli> sorush20: which partition tool? in the installer?
[02:37] <NuK> somebody help me
[02:37] <NuK> ubuntu is setting my clock to GMT in the bios every boot
[02:37] <YukiIkyuta> NuK, sudo tzconfig?
[02:38] <NuK> YukiIkyuta, timezone is set rigtht
[02:38] <topyli> sorush20: oh i dunno, i've never seen a tool like that :)
[02:38] <sorush20> topyli: yes in the installer
[02:38] <NuK> YukiIkyuta, also, ubuntu clock is right
[02:38] <kvantti> oskude so i did sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr/local and sudo checkinstall. correct?
[02:38] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm..
[02:38] <NuK> YukiIkyuta, its just an anoying service that put my bios clock go GMT
[02:38] <sorush20> topyli: but I've now captured this png from the gparted
[02:38] <topyli> sorush20: haven't copied with it either. if it fails it's a bug of course
[02:39] <oskude> kvantti, i heard someone say "--prefix=/usr" is "ubuntu" way
[02:39] <NuK> how do i see the list of services that loads at boot time?
[02:39] <kvantti> oskude ok will try that too if it still wont work. allthough i am beginning to believe that this is "impossible"
[02:39] <lachesis> anyone can tell me how to mount my hard drive using a live cd ? Its a LVM partitions that appear as /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-boot in my fstab.
[02:40] <oskude> kvantti, impossible not, you (we/i) just have to know the right places for right files...
[02:40] <lachesis> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-*r*oot I meant
[02:41] <kvantti> oskude i wonder what libavcodec is since locate does not give any such objects
[02:41] <oskude> kvantti, dunno, just a package name ?
[02:42] <kvantti> oskude it says "dts" not found in "libavcodec"
[02:42] <kvantti> oskude but it looks by synaptic it really is a codec/package. well, more searching
[02:43] <oskude> kvantti, did you do try with "--prefix=/usr" ?
[02:43] <Murrlin> hello everyone.
[02:43] <Murrlin> fo
[02:44] <Murrlin> oops
[02:44] <oskude> :) hi
[02:44] <Murrlin> I don't have net over LAN at this time. I've done the exact same steps as I have before with every distro I've put on machine #2...
[02:45] <Murrlin> perhaps u 5.10 is a bit different
[02:47] <McScruff> lo, i just installed vmware and the vmware any-any-update96 and got his error when i went to start a virtual machine http://www.geocities.com/respectdoggfather/snapshot1.png
[02:48] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, it's outdated.
[02:49] <kvantti> oskude yes i give it a go but it might be that the only thing i need is ffmpeg since it contains libavcodec..so i might try to install that first, and then retry with the dts library
[02:49] <McScruff> Yukilkyuta. o you know what the latest one is?
[02:50] <oskude> kvantti, i allso read in the README of that libdts that only VLC uses that library...
[02:50] <iustin> thank you cause i succeded playing mp3 and other formats
[02:50] <kvantti> oskude very nice..well right now i might got good vlc and rotten mplayer which is the one i wanna use =)
[02:50] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, it's the kernel module that's outdated, that's all.
[02:51] <McScruff> so... how do i fix that then
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, you need to reinstall it! did you install it properly first time around?
[02:51] <McScruff> yes
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> It looks like the vmmod kernel module is out of date.
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> (not compatible with the software)
[02:51] <McScruff> i have only just installed it....
[02:51] <McScruff> ffs, time to check forums
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, something's definitely up! what was that any-any-update96 thing you talk about?
[02:51] <deltron> how well does the vmware work on linux?
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, as well as it does under Windows.
[02:52] <deltron> cool
[02:52] <McScruff> deltron, it works very well
[02:52] <boo> SEXOTRON
[02:52] <McScruff> Yukilkyuta. i will install without the anyany update
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> boo, agreeably.
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, good luck.
[02:54] <richard> I can't believe how easy this connected
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, can I ask why you used the update?
[02:54] <McScruff> coz its the only way it worked before
[02:55] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora, I see..
[02:56] <McScruff> wohoo vmware fixed the bug that ment we needed the update
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> Neat! ^^
[02:56] <McScruff> time to install win98 :)
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> XD!
[02:56] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i make ubuntu activate my netwrok device on the boot up? Right now i have to open networking and activate eth0 each time i boot up. thanks
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> Did you actually buy VMware? o.O
[02:57] <McScruff> im using the trial :P
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> Ah. -_-
[02:57] <McScruff> coz software piracy i wrong!!
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> Aheh! xP
[02:57] <aptiko> I'm trying install Ubuntu using LVM (first time I try LVM) and there are some things I don't understand.  What kind of partitions do I need to create before selecting "Configure the Logical Volume Manager"?
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, it definitely should.
[02:57] <McScruff> deltron, its perfect for the apps wine wont run
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> aptiko, try going to `Use guided partitioning'
[02:58] <mirak> anyone nkow how to configure lxr ?
[02:58] <YukiIkyuta> aptiko, then `erase harddrive (some harddrive) and use LVM'
[02:58] <deltron> I've never really tried wine
[02:58] <aptiko> YukiIkyuta:  I don't want to erase the hard drive; I want LVM to use a partition of the drive.  Is that possible?
[02:58] <deltron> that reminds me, I wanted to find out what LVM was
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, it allows resizing of partitions and such while the harddrive is online, and in use.
[02:59] <iustin> there is something similar to task manager from windows (cause a program crashed and i want to force kill it)
[02:59] <iustin> ?
[02:59] <deltron> oh, that is pretty cool :)
[02:59] <McScruff> iustin open konsole and type kill xxxx
[02:59] <McScruff> xxxx = app
[03:00] <iustin> thanks so much
[03:00] <iustin> app = vlc
[03:00] <McScruff> or press ctrl and esc
[03:00] <iustin> i write vlc?
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, that won't work, typically.
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> try ``killall vlc''
[03:00] <iustin> thx
[03:00] <McScruff> i use the gui :P
[03:00] <deltron> there's a gui to top
[03:01] <deltron> anyone running ubuntu 64 on a laptop?
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, not on a laptop, but yes for ubuntu 64.
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> I wish I had a 64-bit laptop.
[03:01] <iustin> :(( don`t work to kill it
[03:02] <deltron> I just got a new laptop since Best Buy broke mine :)  (previous one was also a 64 bit laptop though)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> I got a 64bit laptop - and run 32bit ubuntu on it. :P
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> iustin, then, try killall -9 vlc
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, why..?
[03:02] <deltron> yeah, why?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  too many little annoyances.
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Really?
[03:03] <deltron> install 64, then chroot into a 32 when needed
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> cedega, flash, lets see what else...
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> I've just installed amd64 Ubuntu today, and it's been fine.
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Meh~
[03:03] <deltron> yeah, that's true :P
[03:03] <deltron> how well does cedega work?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> what do you really 'gain' from 64bit is the next question.
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, future-compatibility.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Cedega works decently well. but theres a lot of people upset with the latest 5.0
[03:04] <kvantti> ok so the only real solve i found for the rear speakers not functioning (tried out with speaker-test -Dlug:surround51 -c6) too was getting the essential-codec package for mplayer. could some user with 5.1 sound in ubuntu describe, if any, the methods he(she has used
[03:04] <deltron> does world of warcraft work on it?
[03:04] <deltron> hehe
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  from what i have 'heard' one of the main benifits of 64bit is addressing a large amount or ram.
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, well, yes, that's the primary benefit.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> deltron,  WoW used to work on 4.X decently well.. but still minor annoyances.
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> You can also manipulate numbers up to some.. large amount.
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> 2^64, as primary types.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> GuildWars also worked 'ok'
[03:04] <psycho666> i can't find a way to restart inetd
[03:05] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i make ubuntu activate my netwrok device on the boot up? Right now i have to open networking and activate eth0 each time i boot up. thanks
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> but all it takes is a few little anoyances to make ya want to boot to windows instead.
[03:05] <deltron> psycho666: /etc/init.d/inetd restart ?
[03:05] <imterro> hi, what plugin do i need to play .rm files?
[03:05] <Hentai^XP> is there a calender for ubuntu?
[03:05] <Hentai^XP> or comes with it?
[03:05] <sorush20> hi
[03:05] <deltron> I'm gonna tri-boot my laptop :P
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hentai^XP: click the calander in the corner
[03:05] <psycho666> Delgul: i didn't find this script on my init.d
[03:05] <K_Dallas> Hentai^Remote, evolution, korganiser, cal
[03:05] <kvantti> so, to install mplayer codecs, do i just cp to lib/codecs?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> Hentai^XP,  ya can click on the little clock/date and get one.
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis,  I don't have Windows on there. xP
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> oops. :P
[03:05] <Hentai^XP> Kamping_Kaiser which corner?
[03:05] <psycho666> deltron : i didn't find this script on my init.d
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hentai^ top right
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  you aint an MMORPG addict then. :P
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> on a defalut system
[03:06] <ompaul> Dec 01  Ian Jackson became Debian Project Leader, 1997
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> Definitely not. ^^
[03:06] <imterro> what plugin do i need to play .rm files?
[03:06] <imterro> anyone?
[03:06] <deltron> psycho666: hmm, guess not :P
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> imterro: install realplayer
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> imterro,  real media = real player
[03:06] <kvantti> that would be usr/local/codecs
[03:06] <ompaul> imterro, you need to use realplayer
[03:06] <psycho666> deltron: sorry ?
[03:06] <rohan> hi all
[03:06] <deltron> psycho666: i have no clue :P
[03:07] <rohan> does ubuntu live cd have gparted ?
[03:07] <rohan> if not, know of any live cd which does ?
[03:07] <rohan> not qtparted, gparted
[03:07] <K_Dallas> rohan, systemrescueCD or something like that, it has nice tools for recovery etc including partitioner
[03:07] <kvantti> i got corrupted sound in mplayer with a terratec aureon and logitech x530. any help?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> logitech x530 ?
[03:08] <rohan> K_Dallas: but ubuntu cd does not have it ? :(
[03:08] <rohan> i was preferably looking for a relatively small live cd
[03:08] <rohan> :(
[03:08] <frogzoo> rohan: dsl mebbe or puppy
[03:09] <rohan> frogzoo: neither. i tried.
[03:09] <frogzoo> or knoppix of course
[03:09] <rohan> K_Dallas: it does not have gparted
[03:09] <rohan> frogzoo: it does not have gparted
[03:09] <rohan> qtparted has trashed my disk twice
[03:09] <frogzoo> rohan: rip has it I think (checks)
[03:09] <rohan> hmm... whats the easiest way to copy partitions ?
[03:09] <rohan> dd ?
[03:10] <rohan> i want to move hdc7 to hdc1
[03:10] <rohan> what should hdc1 be ? free space ? reiser system ?
[03:10] <kyncani> rohan: cp -a is very convenient i think
[03:10] <rohan> whats the optimal use of dd ?
[03:10] <sorush20> any data recovery program for linux ext3
[03:10] <rohan> kyncani: wont dd be safer ?
[03:10] <rohan> kyncani: and faster
[03:11] <frogzoo> rohan: don't trust dd with your data - it's a bad plan - use tar or cpio
[03:11] <kyncani> rohan: cp is very safe, it can transfer data regardless of source and dest partition types. Plus, cp only copy real data, not empty fs blocks.
[03:12] <kyncani> rohan: and it's a simple and effective solution :)
[03:12] <rohan> kyncani: ah, ok.,
[03:12] <K_Dallas> kyncani, isnt there a safer version of CP out there? someone once suggested it to me specially for transferring data between ntfs and linux but cannot remember the name of the command
[03:12] <rohan> kyncani: wow! i can copy reiser stuff to reiser4, that way ?
[03:12] <rohan> K_Dallas: ntfs ?! as in, ntfs write ? great
[03:12] <YukiIkyuta> rohan, it's just the generic copy!
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> rohan, **no** ntfs write.
[03:13] <K_Dallas> rohan, from ntfs ro etx3
[03:13] <rob^^^> does anyone know what could cause you to get a DHCP_NAK but no lease?
[03:13] <frogzoo> rohan: you were asking earlier - RIP has parted - not sure if this is the same as gparted
[03:13] <kyncani> rohan: like YukiIkyuta said, cp will just copy files, almost as if you copied them from nautilus
[03:13] <rob^^^> It worked fine yesterday and I haven't changed any network settings
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> rob^^^, a faulty DHCP server? :) i'm kidding.
[03:13] <rob^^^> and it works fine in windows...
[03:13] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'd like to set an automatic start for a script when I press a specific key. What programs can i use?
[03:13] <rob^^^> and these are the campus-wide dhcp servers which work fine with my breezy and warty machines
[03:14] <rohan> ok, kyncani
[03:15] <rohan> thanks a lot , kyncani frogzoo K_Dallas and YukiIkyuta
[03:15] <rohan> wish ubuntu live includes gparted / qtparted :(
[03:15] <rohan> :P
[03:15] <slept>  Alex_BO, in X  you can use hotkeys and define the key, with xev you can read the number of a key
[03:15] <redguy|work^> anyone know where I can find GATOS km kernel module?
[03:15] <icemilo> where should i put  my html files for apache2?
[03:16] <YukiIkyuta> good luck rohan. ^^
[03:16] <lachesis> I need to find a way to backup my data from ubuntu LVM volume on a broken system, any idea ?
[03:16] <frogzoo> lachesis: dl RIP
[03:16] <redguy|work^> sure, i can compile it, but wanted to know if it prebiuld in some package
[03:16] <redguy|work^> s/prebuld/is prebuilt/
[03:16] <lachesis> the livecd doesnt seem to be able to mount LVM volume...
[03:16] <Alex_BO> slept, hotkeys? System>Keyboard Shortcuts?
[03:17] <lachesis> frogzoo, thx checking it out right now
[03:17] <lachesis> rip recovery is possible
[03:17] <icemilo> can someone please read my message..
[03:17] <lachesis> shit
[03:17] <icemilo> -_-;
[03:17] <slept> Alex_BO, no its a package , never used System>Keyboard Shortcuts, that might work aswell
[03:18] <lachesis> sorry wrong window
[03:18] <Alex_BO> slept, okey.i'm gonna download it.thank you for now.
[03:19] <slept> lachesis, mounting works for me with the live cd . Do you use Knoppix?
[03:19] <frogzoo> icemilo: either /var/www or ~/.something - should be in apache conf
[03:20] <definity> hi
[03:20] <kvantti> i have solved my 5.1 problem for as far as there is no distortion, but right now the problem still is that the "dts" is not found in "libavcodec". a solve plz?
[03:20] <lachesis> slept : no, ubuntu's livecd but can you mount LVM volume ?
[03:20] <slept> yes
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> icemilo: /var/www is root by defalut
[03:21] <thenuke> hmm, is there any good guide for a beginner to install ubuntu?
[03:21] <Alex_BO> slept, hotkeys: You must set the keyboard type, use hotkeys -t <type> to set it.         I know the keycode yet.
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> or ~/public_html for a /~yourusername
[03:21] <thenuke> And yes i know that it is pretty simple for me example because I know something about computers :P but someone who does not know about anything might want to have somekind of guide
[03:22] <lachesis> slept, I can try downloading the lastest livecd then, mine is a bit old now
[03:23] <lachesis> slept : can you also explain me the command i need to type to mount the LVM volume as my understanding if LVM management is near inexistant. Or is it mounted automaticaly ?
[03:23] <slept> lachesis, did you try pvscan
[03:23] <Alex_BO> slept, well i know the keycode yet: e055. i'd like to associate this key to a shell script
[03:24] <dewitte> end
[03:24] <lachesis> nope
[03:24] <Alex_BO> slept, is hotkey the right program?
[03:24] <slept> Alex_BO, you can generate your own keyboardfile, just copy a existing one and fit your needs
[03:25] <icemilo> Kamping_Kaiser: its not in apache.conf;
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> icemilo: apache or apache 2? doesnt matter i suppose, that's where those 2 dirs go
[03:26] <lachesis> slept : my livecd is a hoary, i m booting it up to try but i ll download the new live cd and try again if it does not work
[03:26] <aDre|ita> ulaa
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> the extra modules or whatever is what you have to play with, but i forget what they are
[03:27] <icemilo> Kamping_Kaiser: apache2
[03:27] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, you must now that :) ..hey btw :) ... where goes OLD packages and files when i upgrade ubuntu?
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> icemilo: i realised i have left my custom server away, so i cant look it up  :(
[03:27] <Toma-> Yo, how do you install gnome icons from tar.gz?
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: hi mate, wtf was your question? ;)
[03:27] <frogzoo> theD3viL: set the option in Synaptic to trash pkgs from cache not in repos
[03:27] <icemilo> ...
[03:27] <slept> Alex_BO, do dpkg -L hotkeys or read the man page to find out where the files are. then copy one that fits best your keyboard and correct the keycodes. you can associate the keycodes with wathever programm or script you like
[03:28] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, where goes packages when i dist-upgrade system ... old packages ?
[03:28] <Alex_BO> slept, thank you so much.now i'm looking to it
[03:28] <theD3viL> frogzoo, hm..? wait a sec
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: if you upgrade to Breezy, your Hoary packages get delted
[03:28] <frogzoo> theD3viL: it's under "files"
[03:28] <slept> lachesis, do you have a irc connection while doing that ?
[03:29] <frogzoo> theD3viL: settings -> prefs -> files
[03:29] <lachesis> yeah debian on my desktop dont have any problem... its my laptop thats broken.
[03:29] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, iam not upgraded..will upgraded too daper .. when it will be relased...
[03:29] <_penguin> hello all, I'm getting the double clock speed problem on my laptop (as well as cursor blinking double fast, bouncing busy icon bouncing double speed)..
[03:30] <theD3viL> frogzoo, yes i see...which? 1,2,3 ? :P
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: next year
[03:30] <_penguin> I've tried various things like no_timer_check noapictimer etc to no avail; is there any update on this bug?
[03:30] <frogzoo> theD3viL: if you just upgraded, probably just click "clear cache" and then select 3
[03:30] <theD3viL> frogzoo, ill do that when ill upgraded...
[03:31] <frogzoo> theD3viL: but your hoary pkgs were deleted when you changed repos, so just pick 3
[03:31] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, frogzoo: what about depencies ?
[03:31] <lachesis> slept, I did pvscan and it worked : i get PV /dev/hda5     VG Ubuntu  lvm2 [37Gb/0 free] 
[03:32] <frogzoo> theD3viL: don't sweat it - just upgrade & it all works
[03:32] <slept> lachesis, lvscan
[03:32] <slept> lachesis, mount /dev/mapper/... /mnt
[03:32] <theD3viL> frogzoo, i just asking..
[03:32] <_penguin> um ok....how about any work on when 2.6.13 will be released?
[03:32] <_penguin> s/work/word
[03:33] <lachesis> slept, yeah !!! Well done, i could mount my drive ! thanx so much.
[03:36] <JulienH> Hi all
[03:37] <_penguin> man this comm sucks ass, no wonder I was so quick to pop back in my gentoo cd last time I was here
[03:37] <JulienH> Is there a specific version of Ubuntu for servers ?
[03:37] <definity> lol
[03:38] <slept> JulienH, you can do a server install or use debian
[03:39] <max__> hi
[03:39] <potus> JulienH: u can just boot cd and type command 'server' when u see boot:
[03:39] <potus> that will give u bear console.
[03:39] <potus> having porblems with cups tho so i am installing kde just got the cups gui =/
[03:39] <definity> any good linux hacking tutorials for beginners?
[03:40] <potus> definity: yeah unix bible
[03:40] <potus> start with that
[03:40] <potus> =P
[03:40] <JulienH> potus: ok thanks :)
[03:40] <slept> potus, use http://localhost:631
[03:40] <max__> how can i play mp3 with amarok?
[03:40] <potus> slept: i tried it keeps saying access denied
[03:40] <definity> potus:  thanks :)
[03:40] <slept> :(
[03:41] <max__> ...
[03:41] <max__> ???
[03:41] <kyncani> !tell max__ about mp3
[03:42] <JulienH> But is there any difference during the installation when typing "server" after the boot prompt ?
[03:42] <jbroome> JulienH: it's a minimal install with no GUI
[03:42] <Toma-> definity: http://kernelnewbies.org/ is a good place to get started hacking
[03:42] <MickMcMack> JulienH, that will install no X.
[03:42] <frogzoo> JulienH: all the guid stuff isn't installed
[03:42] <jbroome> apt-get install what you want/need for your server
[03:43] <frogzoo> JulienH: unless you want a hard core server box, just use the standard install & run whatever services
[03:43] <potus> JulienH: the difference is your not gonna have the GUI just the console.. e.g. black and white
[03:43] <NiklasH_1ork> hi, anyone else having problems with mozilla-firefox? It won't start on one of my boxes, and both run an up to date system with linux-686
[03:44] <JulienH> frogzoo: it will be a dedicated server plugged in a datacenter
[03:44] <potus> JulienH: once u get their ur going to want to do apt-get install openssh-server
[03:44] <boo> are there any alternative programs to wine?
[03:44] <potus> that will make it so u can ssh into the box and figure out whatever else u gotta do =)
[03:44] <JulienH> frogzoo: We used to install Debian, I'm just interested about Ubuntu
[03:44] <frogzoo> boo - Crossover Office - it's commercial though
[03:44] <mjr> boo, not really as such (except the derivatives CrossOver Office and Cedega)
[03:44] <mjr> boo, what did you want to do?
[03:44] <boo> play games =/
[03:45] <K_Dallas> cedega should be helpfull then
[03:45] <Murrlin> don't we all? :D
[03:45] <frogzoo> NiklasH_1ork: no probs on ff 1.07 386
[03:45] <max__> umm...
[03:45] <boo> crossover office isnt good for games?
[03:45] <K_Dallas> boo, never tried it but cedega is specialized for game
[03:46] <boo> SWEET it works with bf2 omg
[03:46] <frogzoo> JulienH: in some ways, ubuntu is better for server purposes than debian because of the package stability
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> boo,  compared to cedega, id have to say yes. - Different "focus" on the  development.
[03:46] <holycow> frogzoo, wtf are you smoking
[03:46] <jbroome> frogzoo: yeah, debian sarge is *way* too cutting edge for servers.
[03:46] <holycow> if you think breezy is anything but a disaster for example, then you need to reconsider
[03:46] <boo> haha if they have this, remind me why everyone doesnt use linux?
[03:47] <holycow> also server products cannot be released on a 6 month interval and be considered 'stable'
[03:47] <theD3viL> What you peoples think about next relases of ubuntu...will be corrupted like Fedora, Mandriva etc. or will work that fast right now?
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> boo,  its not 100% working all the time for a start
[03:47] <boo> oh :(
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> boo,  every update of World of Warcraft seems to break somthing else with cedega. :(
[03:47] <RustyJames> !tell
[03:47] <frogzoo> holycow: for just the standard stuff, breezy is very nice
[03:47] <boo> MMOs suck, fps own :)
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> then again every Update of WoW seems to break WoW also.
[03:47] <boo> heh
[03:47] <potus> frogzoo: yeah it is
[03:47] <potus> =)
[03:48] <boo> cal-i bf2 cal-m css :)
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> boo,  I get better looking GFX  in native windows then cedega also. SAdly.
[03:48] <potus> if i installed kubuntu-desktop.  i should have all the gnome printer administration packages via default correct?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> but that fact that the games are playable is impressive.
[03:48] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, you always can install win on second partition :)
[03:49] <potus> i already install cups , and samba. via apt before i installed kdesktop
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  i got it on my SATA Drive #1. :P Linux is on its own IDE drive.
[03:49] <boo> ah graphics quality should be an issue, i have a good card.
[03:49] <boo> how exactly does it work?
[03:49] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, why you dont play wow in win =?
[03:49] <potus> i got 6600GT it sucks
[03:50] <potus> i wont buy another gfx card.. ill stick to xbox 360 =)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  gotten where I dont Play WoW at alll - its gotten to be a Major "annoyance" to play.
[03:50] <Toma-> anyone know how to select a gtk engine?
[03:50] <BigKahuna> !moodin
[03:50] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, BigKahuna
[03:50] <boo> haha potus..dont they overheat?
[03:50] <potus> idk i didnt have a problem with my first one.. i just sold it on ebay to make a few dollars.
[03:50] <potus> but computer games never worked right for me i got a top notch pc and they still look horrible
[03:50] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, f**k games, you always can help peoples on "ubuntu and www.ubuntuforums.org :P
[03:51] <frogzoo> does ubuntu run on the 360 yet ?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  yep. thats about all i do.
[03:51] <potus> amd 64 1.8, 1 gig ram, 74g raptor, 6600gt and battlefield 2 still looks shacky
[03:51] <potus> shakey*
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  now ya know why i feel that most MMOROGS are treadmill games with a chat room running on top of them.
[03:51] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, same that me .. :) .. i have gaim too..but ... ;)
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  IM clients are Evil! Irc is the Truth to chatting nirvana
[03:52] <Toma-> anyone know how to select a gtk engine?
[03:52] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, tell that to my girlfriend :)
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  now having HOT webcam "relationships" is ok. ;P
[03:53] <boo> ok, im trying to install cedega, ihave a cedega 5.0 tgz, a tgfontinstall and a tgmozctl install. what do i do (ive never installed anything before)
[03:53] <DrBair> is anyone else out there having issues with clearlooks or human engines crashing evolution calendar?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> boo,  read the cedega intall docs at the cedega homepage yet?
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> boo, i assume you bought it ?
[03:53] <boo> im at a internet cafe, yes
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> boo,  you just need the cedega   debian package.
[03:53] <boo> ok
[03:54] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, loool :)
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> if you are using ubuntu that is.
[03:54] <boo> ok what is that
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> what is what? :P
[03:55] <boo> i dont see any .deb files...in the archive there are lots of directories, like usr opt ect
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> boo, eh ah in the tgz there are usr opt etc ?
[03:55] <boo> yes
[03:55] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, i dont have webcam :PPP
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> they are there somewhere boo - i used them just the other day
[03:55] <Toma-> anyone know how to select a gtk engine?
[03:56] <clarkee> i should get  a webcam for my ubuntu laptop
[03:56] <potus> whats the best way to make a system backup tar or cpio? i cant seem to get the tar command right. can someone help me make a snapshot?
[03:56] <potus> i need premissions and all saved =/
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> i'm out!
[03:56] <kyncani> potus: hhm, rsync ?
[03:57] <potus> kyncani: never used it =/
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> potus, rsync is just to sync data in two place ... it will not compress
[03:58] <Rawplayer> LA
[03:58] <Seveas> MI
[03:58] <william__> hey has an update for Firefox 1.5 been done for Ubuntu?
[03:58] <Seveas> william__, no
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> william__, topic
[04:00] <theD3viL> william__, no
[04:00] <theD3viL> william__, /topc
[04:00] <theD3viL> william__, /topic
[04:00] <boo> william__, no they havent.
[04:00] <boo> :)
[04:00] <theD3viL> =)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> boo ya want the .deb packages :P
[04:00] <dpupp> anyone one else here have problems playing backup DVD's? some of mine after playing for 10 min error out saying pissibly encrypted when i know they are not. and i do have libdvdcss...
[04:00] <boo> im "looking" ;)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> its right there on the download list :P
[04:01] <boo> where?
[04:01] <boo> this torrent is taking forever
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> torrent>?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> torrent ?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[04:01] <boo> im downloading a movie and its taking forever
[04:01] <boo> its been 2 days =/
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> at the cedega home page for 'legal' users - theres a cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> whats that got to do with the cedega deb file ?
[04:02] <boo> nothing
[04:02] <boo> lol
[04:03] <boo> link dr willis?
[04:04] <william__> can I ask what dapper is.. just for fun
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> boo its on the cedega site under download. You have to be a registered user to get it.
[04:04] <boo> dapper is stylish in a word
[04:04] <boo> kinda, elegantly stylish
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> boo,  ya got to have an account/password to use the program anyway :P
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:04] <boo> really?
[04:04] <boo> wtf?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> wtf wtf? Cedega is a Comercial product. :P
[04:05] <Toma-> cedega cvs is free game tho
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Cedega CVS is 'free'
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> but from what i hear the CVS is lacking some 'features'
[04:05] <boo> software should be free!
[04:05] <boo> its not realy anyway
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> boo,  http://happypenguin.org/     - all kinds of free games.
[04:06] <rob^^^> Does anyone here have any kind of understanding as to how network manager ties in with the underlying config files and utils?
[04:07] <rob^^^> It always seems that it shows one thing in ifconfig and another in network manager
[04:07] <boo> why is my torrent going backwards :(
[04:08] <mjr> probably it got an invalid block
[04:08] <thegladiator> hi
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> boo,  its the way porn works.
[04:08] <boo> porn doesnt go from 65% to 51!
[04:08] <MickMcMack> \o/
[04:08] <Toma-> boo: probably some bad checksums
[04:08] <boo> porn goes from 8=D to 8[04:08] <thegladiator> i created a shell script , for mounting my hdd , but it always cautions me whether to run in terminal or display it
[04:08] <beelzebub123_> the people want their stuff back lol
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> boo,  it goes In and out.. then repeats. :P
[04:08] <thegladiator> hwo do i get rid of this ?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> then bac to 8=D
[04:09] <MickMcMack> I once had a torrent that carried on until 150%. :)
[04:09] <boo> lol
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  right click on its icons and check its settings.
[04:09] <boo> riaa more like assholes amirite
[04:09] <__filip_> i have an problem, i cant log in to ubuntu, i get an messeage,
[04:09] <boo> im going to dissapear tomorrow
[04:09] <Lardarse> hi, i'm following te instructions here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_ATI_driver
[04:09] <boo> :(
[04:09] <benkong2> how can i tell x to allow multiple x sessions on breezy?
[04:09] <boo> OMG STOP NO
[04:09] <__filip_> that tell me i have not been logged in for more then 10 sec
[04:09] <Lardarse> the first command did nothing
[04:09] <boo> it wasat 85 then back to 53
[04:10] <Lardarse> do i need to do the other 2
[04:10] <Lardarse> ?
[04:10] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, WHAT DO I NEED TO CHECK IN SETTINGS ?
[04:10] <dpupp> boo, what client are you using?
[04:10] <boo> 21.4 of 7.4 mb
[04:10] <boo> the standard one? i dont know what it is
[04:10] <Toma-> thegladiator: why make a script to mount?
[04:10] <boo> i use azeurus on windows, do they have it for lonux?
[04:10] <dpupp> boo, yes azureus works in linux.
[04:11] <thegladiator> Toma-, to mount my hard disk paritions,
[04:11] <dpupp> thats what i use here.
[04:11] <thegladiator> Toma-, it doesnt do that auto,
[04:11] <Toma-> thegladiator: have you got any idea what fstab is?
[04:11] <boo> w to the OOT
[04:11] <dpupp> want a screenshot boo?
[04:11] <thegladiator> i am a newbie
[04:11] <Toma-> !fstab
[04:11] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[04:12] <boo> eh nah im downloading it now
[04:12] <thegladiator> could u temme something on it ?  a brief primer ? like what it does
[04:12] <thegladiator> okay lemme check it
[04:12] <Toma-> thats a pretty silly ubotu entry actaully.....
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  I seem to recall a "run in terminal" check box.   or similer thing.   depending on exactly what you are trying to do.
[04:12] <thegladiator> i see... yep thanks
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> not in gnome at the moment - so i cant check
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> gee... :P hard to find wasent it eh?
[04:12] <thegladiator> so fstab is something ike autoexec  in dos ?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  fstab - lists what mounted devices go where.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> NOTHING to do with 'autoexec'
[04:13] <Toma-> thegladiator: sort of. not really, it lets the computer know what drives you want and how to mount them
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:13] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, thanks lemme check that out
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Sort of, Kinda, Not Really, No, :P
[04:14] <dli_> what's the ubuntu way to configure X? for ati radeon X600
[04:14] <Toma-> !ati
[04:15] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> There ya go dli_  :P read there. and hope it works
[04:15] <Toma-> dli_: the see wiki page above ^^^
[04:15] <thegladiator> btw > can i just add another enrty into fstab like that ?  befiore the last line ?
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> it worked for my x200m on my laptop
[04:15] <boo> whats a .cpkg
[04:15] <dli_> tom, Dr_Willis thanks
[04:15] <Toma-> thegladiator: only if you know what youre doing. ;)
[04:15] <boo> how do i install .deb packages?
[04:15] <thegladiator> okie :) i'll figure it out
[04:15] <thegladiator> thanks
[04:16] <Toma-> boo: dpkg -i <package.deb>
[04:16] <Toma-> with sudo of course
[04:17] <dpupp> boo: sudo dpkg -i whatever_you_are_installing.deb
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> Toma-,  now ya got him totally confused.
[04:17] <Toma-> im so getting tempted to go back to kde :(
[04:17] <dli_> 5.10 breezy uses xorg or xfree86?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> Toma-,   use 'wmii' :P
[04:17] <crimsun> X.Org
[04:18] <holycow> anyone here running the gpl version of the mozilla flash plugin ... any thoughts on it's quality?
[04:18] <jcaine> why's that Toma- ?
[04:18] <dpupp> im tempted to try kde...... never tried it.
[04:18] <Toma-> im looking at kde-look.org and the old kwin theme i used, crystal.
[04:18] <dli_> crimsun, why the ati howto page states, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" ?
[04:18] <jcaine> ahhh
[04:19] <crimsun> dli_: you're probably reading a section that's appropriate for Warty?
[04:19] <boo> program depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however:
[04:19] <boo>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[04:19] <Murrlin> very interesting
[04:19] <u1sun> hello - how do i restart alsa ?
[04:19] <boo> where do i get xlibs
[04:19] <dli_> crimsun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:20] <Toma-> u1sun: you dont. u may want to restart esd tho?
[04:20] <u1sun> what?
[04:20] <Toma-> is there a crystal/alpha-transparent metacity theme? :(
[04:20] <Murrlin> I can ping my main computer, I can ssh into it and lynx google.. but I can't access net from my second machine (like I used to with 4 other distros)
[04:20] <u1sun> ubotu, restart alsa?
[04:20] <jcaine> :(
[04:20] <ubotu> u1sun: Are you on ritalin?
[04:21] <holycow> http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Main_Page  <-- neato
[04:21] <u1sun> Toma, yeaa
[04:21] <Toma-> u1sun: you can try /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:21] <crimsun> dli_: yes, there's a section for Warty and a section for Hoary/Breezy
[04:21] <crimsun> you restart ALSA by ''sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload''
[04:21] <boo> Ok i have just installed 2 programs how do i put them on a menu (applications)
[04:22] <dpupp> boo, are you running ubuntu 5.10 ?
[04:22] <boo> yes
[04:22] <dli_> crimsun, I never used ubuntu, but recommended ubuntu for my friends, now, they are asking me questions
[04:23] <dpupp> ok, boo, you will save your self a whole lot of time if you read this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295&highlight=automatix    its about an automated installer of most comunly used applications.
[04:24] <dpupp> really handy it is.
[04:24] <crimsun> dli_: if they're using Breezy, they should use the Breezy section.
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> dpupp, eh ah pls don't recommend automatix
[04:25] <dpupp> wickedpuppy, why not?
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> it installs things without going through the user .. which is what its supposed to do
[04:25] <dli_> crimsun, got it now
[04:26] <boo> what is debian and am i using it?
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> boo, google pls
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> or join #debian
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> i am sure they can tell ya more ...
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> and if using Cedega - go read the cedega docs. :P
[04:27] <dpupp> i so want to finish watching serial experiments lain but my dvd keeps erroring out.
[04:27] <Lardarse> does anyone here think that i should replace my ati graphics card with an nvidia card that i have available?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Lardarse,  depennds :P is it working ok?
[04:28] <dpupp> lardarse, i like nvidia over ati...... but thats just me.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> if not - rip that puppy out.
[04:28] <Lardarse> i tried the fglrx drivers
[04:28] <Lardarse> and it shat itself when it tried to do anything
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> is it worth the 15 min it will take to change it out.
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> Dr_Willis, i don't know you hate me so much ... :P
[04:28] <Lardarse> wth the ati divers
[04:28] <Lardarse> i can't ge more than about 20fps
[04:28] <Murrlin> all the posts I've ever seen about Internet connection sharing never mentions one thing I just found out
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Lardarse,  sounds like you just answered your own question then. :P
[04:29] <Murrlin> can someone add this to the forum?
[04:29] <Lardarse> yeah :-S
[04:29] <Eph> Hey what can I do when my screen gets green ?
[04:29] <Eph> It happens often
[04:29] <Murrlin> "Open a DNS port on your firewal"
[04:29] <Eph> And I got to restart the session each time
[04:29] <Murrlin> wall
[04:30] <Eph> Should I report this bug somewhere ?
[04:30] <Alex_BO> HELLO!How is called the program to scan the ports of a IP?
[04:30] <malverian[work] > Any idea why my parallel port is only recognized by ubuntu if it's in ECP mode?
[04:30] <Alex_BO> I can't remember...
[04:30] <Stonekeeper> hi. has anyone deployed a ubuntu thin client system?
[04:30] <malverian[work] > Alex_BO, nmap
[04:30] <Alex_BO> malverian[work] , thanks
[04:30] <BlueEagle> eph: Well, before reporting a bug knowing what causes it is a good idea.
[04:31] <Eph> I've know clue
[04:31] <Eph> I'm doing anythind and suddenly there is green everywhere
[04:31] <Eph> When I mouse the mouse, the green goes away then it comes back
[04:31] <BlueEagle> eph: Have you tried a different windowmanager?
[04:31] <Eph> It never happened with debian sarge, only with ubuntu and ubuntu live cd
[04:32] <Eph> Uh no i'm using gnome
[04:32] <BlueEagle> eph: Try a different windowmanager. If it still happens it will rule that out. Then you can try downgrading your X-server.
[04:32] <Eph> Ok I'll try fluxbox
[04:32] <BlueEagle> eph: If it stops happening there's a problem with gnome.
[04:33] <tatzan_> hi
[04:34] <tatzan_> gnome doesnt start anymore, gdm does, but when i try to login, i only get the background and a cursor... i did an update, before the update it all worked... any ideas anyone?
[04:35] <jcaine> what did you update?
[04:35] <tatzan_> entire system
[04:35] <tatzan_> apt-get update/upgrade
[04:35] <tatzan_> 5.10
[04:35] <definity> wot is apt mean?
[04:36] <tatzan_> from a fresh cd installation
[04:36] <Oetzi> http://mahopa.de/bilder/lustige-forenbilder/google.jpg
[04:36] <tatzan_> definity, a package tool afaik
[04:36] <Oetzi> sry
[04:36] <Oetzi> wrong channelwindow
[04:36] <aguztinako> please to conect at irchispano?
[04:37] <aguztinako> alguno que hable castellano?
[04:37] <aguztinako> k no me entero de na de na
[04:37] <tatzan_> seems like the gnome-session script is stuck
[04:38] <jcaine> :(
[04:38] <jcaine> I had a similar problems - but it was caused by an nvidia option =/
[04:38] <jcaine> *problem
[04:39] <tatzan_> jcaine, gdm is starting so this should not be the problem
[04:39] <aguztinako> gallonegro_ estas?
[04:40] <jcaine> it would display the background image and mounted devices, but wouldn't load up the panels
[04:41] <tatzan_> maybe dpkg-reconfigure -a will be friends with me...
[04:41] <rabihkh> hallo kannn mir yemand helfen ?
[04:42] <boo> hey
[04:42] <boo> where do i make shortcuts appear in the menus?
[04:42] <boo> i installed azeurus but there is no shortcut, how do i make one
[04:43] <definity> whats so good about linux
[04:43] <definity> ?
[04:43] <aguztinako> alguno habla castellano
[04:44] <boo> linux is weird
[04:44] <boo> i just got it
[04:44] <boo> its not bad tho
[04:44] <boo> its kinda cool
[04:44] <jcaine> different reasons for different people
[04:44] <definity> ok
[04:44] <jcaine> for me - its free, customizable, and runs the games I do play
[04:44] <dli_> boo: use a desktop environment (gnome , kde)
[04:44] <jbroome> i like it because of the intelligent discourse on the IRC channels
[04:44] <boo> i am dli
[04:44] <boo> but i dont know how to get shortcuts up there
[04:45] <definity> kool
[04:45] <mwe> how's it weird?
[04:45] <boo> im not used to typing in commands
[04:45] <definity> well are there any good hacking tutorials about got beginners on linux
[04:45] <boo> lololol
[04:45] <mwe> I see
[04:45] <dli_> boo: right click on desktop (empty area), choose creat launcher
[04:46] <mwe> you can avoid typing commands most of the time though
[04:46] <rabihkh> ??
[04:46] <dli_> boo: don't avoid typing root passwd, you have to use passwd protection for root
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> 'feel the linux love'
[04:47] <boo> ok
[04:48] <jcaine> mmm
[04:48] <boo> hey, im getting cedega cvs, but i dont know which profile to get
[04:48] <mahangu> anybody played CS via cedega?
[04:48] <boo> 0
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> !cedega
[04:48] <ubotu> hmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[04:49] <stelt> idea: floppy disk that brings up a general install distro menu; pick your distro from a on-line list and it takes you to the distro-specific installer it automatically downloads (cause not all computers have floppy drives anymore, we of course also need CDs and USB stick versions)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> stelt,  a mega-net-installer boot cd you mean?
[04:50] <jcaine> Question: Is there a way to watch video with transparency? Or allow the video to show through transparent windows? Using transset, the video just shows up as a blue overlay
[04:51] <Dkelly> hi all new linux guy here.  maybe a simple question ned some help in the device manager area
[04:54] <Dkelly> I am running a dual processor intergraph workstation.  The device manager does not see the board or the processors
[04:54] <olicat> does anyone know the command to create a new svn project?
[04:54] <boo> lok
[04:54] <xychix_> is there a good manual on howto compile a kernel under ubuntu ? with the same config as the current ?
[04:54] <boo> i need some help, i was running WineCVS.sh and it spit out like 2 pages of error text, can anyone help?
[04:54] <xychix_> i need to make a kernel module. current gcc =4    kernel was build with 3.4.5
[04:55] <epimeteo> hi, is it normal in a P4 2.8 and nvidia for flightgear warm the CPU 'til it reaches 60
[04:55] <Drgb> hi everyone, i just installed ubuntu and i can't play mpeg video files, totem says he needs codecs, i tried to search them with apt but i didn't find anything, can you help me?
[04:55] <jbroome> !tell Drgb about codecs
[04:56] <benoy> hi all, I just tried to play a *.mov file with totem player but the video is all green.  How can I fix this?
[04:56] <plazz> xychix_: Install gcc-3.4 for occassions like that then. And just do 'CC="gcc-3.4" command'
[04:56] <Drgb> jbroome, thanks, but what should i do after i downloaded them?
[04:56] <xychix_> plazz: ok.. i'll try that
[04:56] <jbroome> restart totem
[04:56] <selinium> ubotu, tell benoy about codecs
[04:56] <Drgb> ok, thank you
[04:56] <mwe> benoy: do you have the right codec?
[04:56] <stelt> Dr_Willis: that sounds like a good name, yes. Though maybe replace "mega" with "meta" or "general"
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> stelt,  net installs can be good.. and bad. :P
[04:57] <stelt> why bad?
[04:58] <boo> spec16.c:180: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
[04:58] <boo> 
[04:58] <boo> what does that mean
[04:58] <elio_> hy all, which file format must i download to use it with ubuntu (rpm, from suse, from redhat, etc) ?
[04:58] <benoy> I think so mwe
[04:58] <xychix_> elio_: .deb will suit best
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> stelt,  what if ya got 10 machines to install to.. tht means you basicially download the same stuff 10 times = more server load.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> stelt,  now a "torrent" net installer.. that would be interesting
[04:59] <elio_> also debian/linux
[04:59] <Alex[RM-UK] > hey
[04:59] <Alex[RM-UK] > whats the difference between GDM and GTK?
[04:59] <plazz> GDM = display manager, GTK = graphical tool kit.
[04:59] <elio_> thanks xychix
[05:00] <Alex[RM-UK] > plazz, whats the difference? I mean, I see GTK themes...but shouldn't they be GDM themes if GDM is the display manager?
[05:00] <xychix_> plazz:  :( next issue
[05:00] <xychix_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:00] <xychix_> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[05:00] <xychix_> :P :P :P
[05:00] <xychix_> i'll google a bit
[05:00] <plazz> GDM only handles logging in/etc. It's not the window/theme manager.
[05:00] <NoUse> Alex[RM-UK]  GDM is build using GTK, GDM themes != GTK themes
[05:00] <plazz> xychix_: Installing nvidia modules? :P What linux-image are you using?
[05:00] <root__> HELLO
[05:01] <root__> MAN
[05:01] <xychix_> plazz: installing vmware-player
[05:01] <root__> MANES
[05:01] <xychix_> Linux bea 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:01] <root__> MANES
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> wow - ircing as root , under ubuntu..  :P
[05:01] <plazz> xychix_: Ah. Whatever your linux-image you're using, install the corresponding linux-headers.
[05:01] <xychix_> tnx
[05:01] <boo> hey are there any code ezzeperts who can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81232&page=2
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dr_Willis: commitment :)
[05:01] <Alex[RM-UK] > Right, well im about to install Gnome on Kubuntu...cos im starting to think that KDE really does suck
[05:02] <Stonekeeper> er... why not just install ubuntu
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> I bet the Ubuntu devs are having a heart attack now.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> KDE is very nice in ways
[05:02] <Alex[RM-UK] > Stonekeeper, can't be bothered to download Ubuntu when I have Kubuntu already installed
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> so is Gnome.
[05:02] <xychix_> Alex[RM-UK] : ROFL
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> wmii - is amuseing also.
[05:02] <NoUse> Alex[RM-UK]  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <xychix_> i'll make a Fubuntu :P
[05:02] <xychix_> fluxbox rules
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> wmubuntu
[05:03] <mwe> heh
[05:03] <elio_> i don't have the standart headers to compile with gcc, yes i know, i'm newbie, where can i get them and where i must do them=
[05:03] <elio_> ?
[05:03] <NoUse> elio_ install the build-essential package
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials'
[05:03] <jcaine> Question: What IRC clients are you all using?
[05:03] <Ng> irssi!
[05:04] <testmachine> irssi!!
[05:04] <jbroome> screen + irssi
[05:04] <jcaine> lol
[05:04] <testmachine> irssi is the best client there is
[05:04] <xychix_> plazz: tnx so far... almost vmware running :) :)
[05:04] <plazz> xychix_: Np.
[05:04] <testmachine> jbroome: ofcourse dont forget screen
[05:04] <testmachine> hey xychix_
[05:04] <testmachine> :)
[05:04] <jcaine> testmachine, what makes you say that?
[05:04] <jbroome> i dabble with xchat and irssi-proxy
[05:04] <testmachine> < assink xychix_
[05:04] <testmachine> :P
[05:04] <xychix_> :P
[05:04] <Sonderblade> anyone using dapper here?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> mIRC owns Ju!
[05:04] <testmachine> xychix: my nick is registered and i forgot the identify pass :P
[05:05] <testmachine> xychix: *grin*
[05:05] <xychix> testmachine: i never register my nick
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> its always funniy to make your xchat/irssi version reply - spit out some fake new mIRC version.
[05:05] <xychix> maybe i should
[05:05] <testmachine> xychix: nah, i had to do that for #asterisk
[05:05] <andcor> somebody knows xawtv ??
[05:05] <jcaine> So, you all recommend irssi?
[05:06] <jcaine> (Currently playing around with xchat)
[05:06] <boo> Is there any way to get CVS Cedega working with ubuntu?
[05:06] <__filip_> how do i change the keyboard layout to swedish ?
[05:06] <NoUse> !tell boo about cedega
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> jcaine,  i tend to use xchat under Linux and windows.
[05:08] <Trackilizer> Just wanted to ask is there anything i can add to the sources.list file that will enable me to install Java.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:08] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:08] <testmachine> Trackilizer: there is
[05:08] <testmachine> oh ok
[05:08] <andcor> somebody knows xawtv ?
[05:08] <testmachine> :)
[05:09] <Trackilizer> So, what is it i have to add to the sources.list file so that i will be able to install jave via "apt-get"
[05:10] <mwe> !java
[05:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:10] <jeff_> When I play .avi files from a canon digital camera, the sound is static. All other audio plays fine on the computer. Any ideas? (A sample avi can be found here: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canona620/page8.asp)
[05:10] <donald> Question: Does anyone have any knowledge on a chat program called Pal Talk for Linux operating system??
[05:10] <xychix> plazz: vmplayer is running :) let's copy a few vmwares to the machine :)
[05:10] <plazz> xychix: Grats.
[05:12] <Trackilizer> Why is it everytime i check the boxes for Multiverse in Synaptic and check again, it's unchecked.
[05:16] <Stork> if my ubuntu has openoffice on it, does that mean my pc will have java installed?
[05:16] <boo> NoUse, it doesnt work on ubuntu though because of the compiler
[05:17] <NoUse> boo ubuntu uses the standard gcc compiler
[05:17] <Stork> sweet it does have java
[05:18] <NoUse> Stork it has the gnu java interpreter I believe, if you want Sun or IBM's JVM you have to install it seperatley
[05:18] <Stork> why does it have that lol
[05:18] <NoUse> Stork they can't include the other JVM since they aren't free software
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Nice of Sun to shoot itself in the foot like that. *sigh*
[05:19] <Stork> baah damn you sun
[05:19] <Stork> i don't have an active internet connection at the moment on that computer ;(
[05:20] <Stork> hmm
[05:20] <Stork> how can i find out my system specs with ubuntu?
[05:21] <dli_> Stork, lspci
[05:21] <csb> embox?
[05:21] <dli_> Stork, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:21] <csb> oops
[05:21] <csb> are mp4/acc files supproted in rythembox?
[05:22] <csb> i've connected my ipod, but the formats aren't recognized
[05:22] <jeff_> How can I fix the static-y audio in .avi files from my digital camera?
[05:22] <dli_> csb: try xmms, you can get many plugins for xmms
[05:23] <csb> dli: ok, but from what i read, this should work. amaroK doesn't work either
[05:23] <linuxgeek2> hi sambagirl
[05:23] <linuxgeek2> lol
[05:25] <NoUse> csb you might need to install faac gstreamer plugin
[05:25] <NoUse> csb it's in synaptic
[05:25] <sls> hi! where do I pt scripts to be run on login? In ubuntu?
[05:25] <sls> Like I need to connect to several samba shares...
[05:25] <dli_> sls: update-rc.d add foo defaults
[05:26] <dli_> sls: put the foo in /etc/init.d
[05:26] <sls> foo???
[05:26] <sls> what is that?
[05:26] <MickMcMack> Foo!
[05:26] <Stork> is there a nooby guide for ubuntu? it's my first time :)
[05:26] <dli_> sls: sls: read the README in /etc/init.d
[05:26] <NoUse> !tell Stork about faq
[05:26] <matrix-user-c> how do i enable ssh login
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> google linux beginer tutorial
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> is a start
[05:27] <NoUse> matrix-user-c install the openssh-server package
[05:27] <dli_> matrix-user-c, apt-get install ssh
[05:27] <Stork> ??
[05:27] <tristan> Stork : we are the nooby guide for Ubuntu
[05:27] <matrix-user-c> sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:27] <sls> dli_: /etc/init.d runs for everyone thoough does it not... I want to run stuff in my profile only
[05:27] <sls> not for other people...
[05:27] <Stork> tristan: awesome
[05:28] <NoUse> Stork http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:28] <boo> hey
[05:28] <Stork> does ubuntu come with any servers installed?
[05:28] <dli_> sls: you want to run it in your ~/.bash_profile ?
[05:28] <vertz> Am i the only one that have problems getting the nvidia drivers working in breezy badger?
[05:28] <boo> how can i open a read only file and edit it with a etxt editor
[05:28] <Stork> http in particular
[05:28] <NoUse> matrix-user-c read what i said again, openssh-server, not ssh
[05:28] <tristan> boo : try to open it as root. for example sudo gedit name_of_the_file
[05:28] <dli_> boo: if it's read only, what do you want to do with it
[05:28] <Stork> anyone?
[05:29] <makis> @Strok: the best guide for begginers arround is :www.aboutdebian.com/linux.htm
[05:29] <NoUse> Stork I sent you a link
[05:29] <boo> i want to edit it, but im not good with console, so i wanna use a text editor
[05:29] <NoUse> Stork http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <Stork> oh okay
[05:29] <Stork> thanks
[05:29] <jeff_> Anyone have any ideas about my sound problems?
[05:29] <dli_> boo: I use vim, you may try kedit, gedit
[05:30] <conn> I'm having trouble with xv with my graphics card (ATI Mobility M4, using r128). I found this patch (but for XFree86) that could solve my problem, can someone confirm if it was included into X.org? http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg03945.html
[05:30] <tristan> boo : try what I said. It will open it with the default text editor but be careful because if it is read only you might have trouble if you miss edit it
[05:30] <boo> rgr
[05:30] <Sonderblade> anyone using dapper here?
[05:31] <twibbler> Hi all.
[05:31] <tristan> conn : what is xv?
[05:31] <tristan> twibbler : hi
[05:31] <Alex[RM-UK] > how do I restart X?
[05:32] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i did now apt-get install ssh
[05:32] <twibbler> Here is an interesting one. Have laptop compaq Nc6000 with a dockingstation, everything except the external monitor are working great. I have an active matrix screen on the monitor, does anybody know how to configure it so it is a single screen ?.
[05:32] <K_Dallas> Q:  header file tcl.h  has been found for 8.4*  but no corresponding tcl library (and i dont know what else i could install to ge those)
[05:32] <matrix-ubuntu-c> is now my ssh enable for folks to log in if they have user nad pas
[05:32] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c I didn't say to install ssh, I said openssh-server, there is a different
[05:33] <NoUse> difference*
[05:33] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ok how i do that
[05:33] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:33] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:34] <jeff_> Umm... silly question: can folks here see my messages?
[05:34] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it says its allready installed
[05:34] <jbroome> jeff_: no
[05:34] <Shadowline> jeff_: yes we see you
[05:34] <jeff_> heh
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> jeff_,  No. :P
[05:34] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c then ssh is enabled
[05:34] <tristan> jeff_ : yes
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c> now if somebody want to log in to my ubuntu he can do it
[05:35] <jeff_> thanks
[05:35] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c should be able to
[05:35] <aj_> ok i have a problem when i start up i get a few errors
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c>  ssh
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c> usage: ssh [-1246AaCfgkMNnqsTtVvXxY]  [-b bind_address]  [-c cipher_spec] 
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c>            [-D port]  [-e escape_char]  [-F configfile] 
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c>            [-i identity_file]  [-L [bind_address:] port:host:hostport] 
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c>            [-l login_name]  [-m mac_spec]  [-O ctl_cmd]  [-o option]  [-p port] 
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c>            [-R [bind_address:] port:host:hostport]  [-S ctl_path] 
[05:35] <aj_> X won't start up
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c>            [user@] hostname [command] 
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it shows this
[05:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c> when i do ssh
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> does just instaling ssh startup the sshd server?
[05:35] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c read the /topic, No pasting!
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> matrix-ubuntu-c,  yea.. that normal. :P tell it where to ssh to.
[05:35] <aj_> it says requested entity already in use
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> matrix-ubuntu-c,  may be time to read a ssh tutorial or 2
[05:36] <jeff_> so no one else gets static for audio when they play this file: http://img2.dpreview.com/reviews/A620/MVI_1157.AVI ?
[05:36] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i donno if a friend want to remote login to my ubuntu and install a sofwtar he does ssh mypi login i give and pass right
[05:36] <NoUse> I think the ssh developers are currently working on the "ssh client guesses where you want to log into" fucntionality
[05:36] <elio_> do i must download clanlib~.gz or clanlib~.bz2? which is easier (or better) for ubuntu to install?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> NoUse,  thats part of the ESP interface add on right
[05:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> can you try to log in in my box nouse if i give u user and pass
[05:37] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c can't
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> elio_,  best to find it in the repos and use synaptic to install it.
[05:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> why
[05:37] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c I'm busy
[05:37] <elio_> i can't download it in synaptic at the moment
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:37] <matrix-ubuntu-c> anyone else who can do ssh to se if my ssh is working
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> matrix-ubuntu-c,  try 'ssh localhost'
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> or 'ssh your.ip.number.here'
[05:38] <jbroome> on the list of things not to do; handing out ssh logins and PWs on irc is probably pretty damn close to the top
[05:38] <matrix-ubuntu-c> it goes down to a prompt
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> matrix-ubuntu-c,  ya mean a login/password prompt?
[05:39] <elio_> Dr_Willis, it says: "libclan2-mikmod:
[05:39] <elio_>  Hngt ab: libmikmod2 (>=3.1.10) but it is not installable
[05:39] <elio_> "
[05:39] <Alex[RM-UK] > hey
[05:39] <seife> Someone help me to install a wlan network please.
[05:39] <jbroome> matrix-ubuntu-c: i got this when i ssh'd to your IP:   ssh 84.217.131.111
[05:39] <jbroome> john@84.217.131.111's password:
[05:39] <Alex[RM-UK] > why are my Menus in Gnome blue?
[05:40] <jbroome> so sshd is running on your end
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Alex[RM-UK] ,  they are sad?
[05:40] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : because you changed the color maybe?
[05:40] <nullspace> whats the command used to install all build dependences for a package
[05:40] <Alex[RM-UK] > i've just installed Gnome :P
[05:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> did it asked u for user and pasword
[05:41] <jbroome> y
[05:41] <mwe> nullspace: auto-apt can do it
[05:41] <nullspace> thanks
[05:42] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ok i created a user john pass john see if it works
[05:42] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : try to type killall gnome-panel in console
[05:42] <tristan> And see if the menus are still blue
[05:42] <tristan> Else maybe it comes from your desktop theme. Did you changed it or do you habe the Ubuntu default one?
[05:43] <matrix-ubuntu-c> does it work
[05:43] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c you can test your own ssh server
[05:43] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how
[05:43] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c people have told you about 10 times now
[05:43] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c 'ssh localhost'
[05:44] <jbroome> matrix-ubuntu-c: YES IT WORKS
[05:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ssh localhost  then i type john john
[05:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nothing happens here
[05:44] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c read an ssh howto, you aren't understand how this works
[05:44] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, I found outs what's wrong. I am using Kubuntu but with Gnome, and Gnome has picked up hte KDE package which makes all GTK programs use my current KDE theme
[05:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> but why i can not see you are online
[05:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i do w and who
[05:45] <jbroome> wow, you just gave out your un and pw on irc.
[05:45] <jbroome> that's awesome
[05:45] <NoUse> how long until the box is rooted?
[05:45] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix   :0           Dec  1 18:29
[05:45] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix   pts/0        Dec  1 18:30 (:0.0)
[05:45] <matrix-ubuntu-c> john     pts/1        Dec  1 18:44 (user-0ce2if4.cable.mindspring.com)
[05:45] <jbroome> depends on how generous i'm feeling
[05:45] <jbroome> :)
[05:45] <K_Dallas> Q:  header file tcl.h  has been found for 8.4*  but no corresponding tcl library (and i dont know what else i could install to ge those)
[05:45] <stratovarius> pls guys who can give me a good repository list for breezy?
[05:45] <seife> Someone help me to install a wlan network please.
[05:45] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c stop pasting, I've already told you once
[05:46] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ok now i see how it works
[05:46] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i remove that user now
[05:46] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c use the gnome users and group dialog
[05:46] <K_Dallas> (tcllib tclx, tcl8.4.dev are installed)
[05:47] <Alex[RM-UK] > How do I install a new theme in Gnome? I clicked Install new Theme...but which file do I choose?
[05:47] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what the fuck
[05:47] <john_> hi from matrix-ubuntu-c's machine. :)
[05:47] <Alex[RM-UK] > im in the directory pf the theme I downloaded
[05:47] <stratovarius> could nobody give me his repos list 4 breezy?
[05:47] <jcaine> lol
[05:47] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i remove u now
[05:47] <jbroome> i'm out
[05:48] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c I told you, gnome users and groups dialog
[05:48] <jbroome> sudo userdel john
[05:48] <hostix> hey
[05:48] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : the simplest way is whe you download a new theme, you open the thme manager and drag and drop the new theme in it
[05:48] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, the whole folder?
[05:48] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ok,
[05:48] <matrix-ubuntu-c> thanx for hacking my box
[05:49] <stratovarius> nobodu here who can gimme his help?
[05:49] <jbroome> when you give out the username and PW on IRC, it's not really hacking
[05:49] <Alex[RM-UK] > it says File format invalid....do I need to compile it first?
[05:49] <NoUse> matrix-ubuntu-c yeah I would file that away in the "don't do that again" folder
[05:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> but how com u are online even thought i deleted u
[05:50] <jbroome> matrix-ubuntu-c: i'm in from *my* machine
[05:50] <deluxe> hi can someone help me? i have got ubuntu and downloaded the new firefox1.5 and i want to update my older one - how can i do this?
[05:50] <Alex[RM-UK] > anyone?
[05:50] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : you should have downloaded an archive so the extension should be .tar.bz2. Drag and drop this one in the theme window
[05:50] <matrix-ubuntu-c> but did u get disconnected from irc
[05:50] <jbroome> matrix-ubuntu-c: and if the matrix account has a PW as simple as the one for the john account, you will get cracked very soon
[05:50] <Alex[RM-UK] > Ahhh, I unpacked it first
[05:50] <deluxe> ?_?
[05:50] <Alex[RM-UK] > thanks, works
[05:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> no i got a diffrent password :P i just made that an easy one
[05:51] <jbroome> matrix-ubuntu-c: yes, i logged out completly
[05:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> did u do that in your own or it was cause i deleted your account
[05:51] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : you're welcome
[05:51] <jbroome> matrix-ubuntu-c: i logged out on my own at 11:47 my time
[05:52] <Alex[RM-UK] > btw, whats metacity?
[05:52] <matrix-ubuntu-c> ok  i thought maybe u got disconnected cause i deleted that user
[05:52] <gfish> can fat 32 be read by windows
[05:52] <elio_> what can i do: i can't install the libDirectFB from Synaptic, libdirectfb-bin:
[05:52] <elio_>  Hngt ab: libdirectfb-0.9-22 (=0.9.22-0ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[05:52] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : don't know
[05:52] <tristan> gfish : yes of course
[05:52] <tristan> gfish : this is the basic formatting of Windows
[05:53] <matrix-ubuntu-c> are you good in computers jbroome
[05:53] <gfish> thanks
[05:53] <DrBair> Alex [RM-UK] : thats the default window manager for gnome
[05:54] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, sorry to be a pain, but I just draged drop my theme into the manager..but the new theme is not there. the theme im trying to install is: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26980
[05:54] <gfish> is there a msn client for linux where i can use webcam
[05:54] <Alex[RM-UK] > DrBair, so wait.... theres now 3! versions of Gnome that make up 1???
[05:54] <Alex[RM-UK] > GKT, GDM and Metacity?
[05:55] <DrBair> Alex[RM-UK] : theres a LOT of applications that make up the GNOME environment
[05:55] <nullspace> anyone else build firefox 1.5 from source?
[05:55] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : did you choose to use this one in the theme manager after installing it. You just have to click it and it should be ok
[05:55] <Emma> Is there anybody who knows how to connect to MSN messenger with Ubuntu?
[05:55] <jbroome> Emma: Gaim will do it
[05:55] <pramz> Emma, Gaim or kopete
[05:55] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, i've just gone to theme details and it's in there :P not in the actual theme selection
[05:56] <pramz> hmmm i <3 the gtkwifi applet
[05:56] <DrBair> Emma:  I've heard good things about aMSN too, never tried it though
[05:56] <pramz> i prefer gaim since i have so many different IM accounts
[05:56] <pramz> aMSN is nice though
[05:56] <pramz> looks just like messenger
[05:56] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : when you open the theme window, is it here?
[05:56] <seife> pramz, aMSN sux hardcore
[05:56] <pramz> seife, how so ? from what I heard its pretty good
[05:57] <Emma>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[05:57] <seife> Its not for me, i dont like it.
[05:57] <seife> I prefer Gaim
[05:57] <gimmulf_> Hi is "registration information" correct english?  (maybe a little bit off topic :) )
[05:57] <pramz> yes
[05:57] <gimmulf_> thanks
[05:57] <pramz> its correct
[05:57] <gfish> is there an msn client for linux where i can use webcam
[05:57] <pramz> i prefer gaim too
[05:58] <pramz> the next version of gaim should have that support
[05:58] <pramz> you can do a google search for gaim-vv
[05:58] <Sandaimae> Hey everybody.
[05:58] <USCRyan> *question* im new to linux and trying to install gtk-gnutella, i used synapics to do it but it installed an outdated version, can anyone walk me through how to install the latest version? i just downloaded it off the sourceforge site
[05:58] <Emma> okay, but what is kobenke or whatever u called it?
[05:58] <pramz> kopete you mean ?
[05:58] <matrix-ubuntu-c> apt-get uptdated gnutella
[05:58] <pramz> kopete is like gaim but built on QT and KDE libs
[05:58] <Emma> yes
[05:58] <joachim-n> hi
[05:58] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hello
[05:59] <USCRyan> matrix-ubuntu-c, i dont know how to do that
[05:59] <Sandaimae> Has anyone here had the problem with the setup hanging at "Setting up the partitioner" x% ?
[05:59] <joachim-n> how do I make a boot floppy with grub? sudo grub-install /dev/fd0 gives an error
[05:59] <eobanb> can anyone help me out with installing nvidia's drivers? i would be using nvidia-glx in the repository but the newer versions of it don't support my TNT2 anymore, so i'm getting an older one from nvidia.com.  problem is, it's trying to compile the kernel modules but cant get headers from my kernel source tree...im positive it's the right version but it says it isnt
[05:59] <pramz> Emma, http://kopete.kde.org/
[05:59] <Emma> I a bit of an analfabet when it comes to computers, how do i access kopete?
[05:59] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo apt-get gtk-gnutella
[05:59] <Emma> thanx!
[05:59] <ardchoille> brb
[05:59] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[05:59] <Agrajag> matrix-ubuntu-c: that will install the same version he just installed.
[05:59] <pramz> Emma, whats an analfabet ?
[05:59] <Agrajag> he got it from apt.
[05:59] <elio_> hi, i search the standart package for PNG JPEG and FREETYPE support
[05:59] <lillpelle> Emma: do you know howto use apt?
[06:00] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo apt-get updtate gtk-gnutella
[06:00] <USCRyan> matrix-ubuntu-c, thats still the old version
[06:00] <Agrajag> matrix-ubuntu-c: the version in apt is the only version in apt.
[06:00] <gimmulf_> lol analfabet :)
[06:00] <USCRyan> matrix-ubuntu-c, there is a newer version on the gnutella sourceforge website
[06:00] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : is it working now?
[06:00] <matrix-ubuntu-c> give me the link
[06:00] <Agrajag> matrix-ubuntu-c: application versions do not change in a given release of ubuntu.
[06:00] <Agrajag> USCRyan: you'll most likey need to install build-essential
[06:00] <Agrajag> from apt
[06:01] <USCRyan> http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/en/?page=news
[06:01] <Agrajag> so, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:01] <lillpelle> gimmulf_: yes, nice to be swedish sometimes :)
[06:01] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, no,
[06:02] <Alex[RM-UK] > it looks nothing like the theme at all
[06:02] <USCRyan> agrajag, ok installing that now
[06:02] <tristan> Alex,
[06:02] <K_Dallas> Q:  header file tcl.h  has been found for 8.4*  but no corresponding tcl library (and i dont know what else i could install to get those)
[06:02] <K_Dallas> (tcllib tclx, tcl8.4.dev are installed)
[06:02] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : did you downlad the file of 128k and also the metacity?
[06:02] <gokishin> Has anyone tried ubuntu on a recent thinkpad, like a z60?
[06:03] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, just the first one (124kb)
[06:03] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : did you downlad the file of 128k and also the metacity?
[06:03] <matrix-ubuntu-c> so what errors u got when u download gnutela.tar.gz just tar zxvf gnutela then cd to gnutela ./configure ; make ; make install
[06:03] <USCRyan> matrix-ubuntu-c, i downloaded the third one, the .tar.bz2 file
[06:03] <jbroome> gokishin: not a z60, but a t43P worked fine
[06:03] <Agrajag> USCRyan: then you need to decompress the archive you got, tar xjf gtk-gnutella<whatever>.tar.bz2
[06:03] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : you have to d/l the metacity also and install it like the previous one
[06:03] <gokishin> jbroome, does that have a SATA drive?
[06:03] <Alex[RM-UK] > it comes with it
[06:03] <matrix-ubuntu-c> do u know to extract bz files
[06:03] <Stormx2> Sound juicer will not rip certain tracks on certain CDs, any ideas why?
[06:03] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, no I got it ..how do I install it?
[06:04] <USCRyan> agrajag, i did that, and i ran ./configure
[06:04] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : drag and drop in theme window
[06:04] <Agrajag> USCRyan: ok, it probably told you you don't have GTK installed, right?
[06:04] <USCRyan> then i tried to run make and it said not found or something, i can get the correct error one sec
[06:04] <jcaine> Anyone have a HOWTO to set up java 1.5 (jre & sdk)?
[06:04] <Agrajag> !java
[06:04] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:04] <USCRyan> arajag, ./configure ran fine
[06:04] <boo> ok
[06:04] <boo> i need some help
[06:04] <matrix-ubuntu-c> show me the errror when u do make use paste bin
[06:04] <boo> i just installed cvscedega but i have no clue how to open it
[06:04] <USCRyan> k
[06:04] <homer> whats your favorite mp3 player for linux?
[06:05] <Stormx2> BMP
[06:05] <Stormx2> all the way
[06:05] <matrix-ubuntu-c> do u have gcc installed
[06:05] <boo> can anyone help?
[06:06] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, the theme I have looks like:http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29656 yet I want:http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26980
[06:06] <gekr79> hi
[06:06] <gfish> homer, xmms
[06:06] <boo> i just installed cvscedega but i have no clue how to open it
[06:06] <boo> can anyone help?
[06:07] <matrix-ubuntu-c> run  cvscedega
[06:07] <eobanb> can anyone help me out with installing nvidia's drivers? i would be using nvidia-glx in the repository but the newer versions of it don't support my TNT2 anymore, so i'm getting an older one from nvidia.com.  problem is, it's trying to compile the kernel modules but cant get headers from my kernel source tree...im positive it's the right version but it says it isnt
[06:07] <USCRyan> arajag, matrixubuntu-c, ok i got it to run this time, i must have typed somethign wrong, now its asking which compiler to use and theres no default to choose ;P
[06:07] <gfish> when will the new gaim be expected
[06:08] <boo> how do i open cedegacvs??!
[06:08] <eobanb> gfish, ask in #gaim
[06:08] <sobersabre> hi.
[06:08] <gfish> ok
[06:08] <Agrajag> USCRyan: run configure again
[06:08] <sobersabre> how do I use ITE GigaRAID device with linux ?
[06:08] <matrix-ubuntu-c> do make clean
[06:08] <USCRyan> k
[06:08] <Agrajag> since you installed gcc after you ran it last
[06:08] <pc6> Hi there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:08] <pc6> I need help
[06:08] <USCRyan> agrajag, do i just exit the current configure?
[06:08] <Agrajag> you have configure running now?
[06:08] <pc6> I cannot put imagesplash in my grub, anybody can help me???
[06:09] <mwe> gfish: in ubuntu it will stay the same version, like any other package, untill the next release of ubuntu
[06:09] <Agrajag> has it been sitting there while you installed gcc, or did you start it afterwards?
[06:09] <homer> does linux contain hardware drivers within it's kernal?
[06:09] <USCRyan> arajag, yes
[06:09] <Agrajag> yes to which?
[06:09] <pc6> I need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:09] <mwe> homer: yes of course
[06:10] <USCRyan> to the first
[06:10] <USCRyan> no to the second
[06:10] <mwe> homer: that's whats the kernel is all about
[06:10] <Agrajag> USCRyan: then it doesn't know you have gcc, just ctrl-c and start again
[06:10] <homer> don't most drivers run a kernal modules though?
[06:10] <USCRyan> ok
[06:10] <homer> as*
[06:10] <Agrajag> it should find it, and will most likely tell you it's missing libraries
[06:11] <rob_p> eobanb:  Why not use the legacy nvidia driver from the repos?  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy" should get you what you need.
[06:11] <USCRyan> agrajag, ive justbeen hitting enter and using all the defaults
[06:11] <firestone> how do I run Itunes on Lenux
[06:11] <sobersabre> firestone with wine.
[06:11] <mwe> homer: it depends as how you compile the kernel. most drivers are almost always compiled in though
[06:11] <sobersabre> firestone but itunes SUCKS.
[06:11] <Agrajag> USCRyan: I don't know what you mean, most configure scripts are automatic
[06:11] <pramz> firestone, comparable players : rhythmbox, amarok
[06:12] <mwe> homer: some drivers wont even compile as modules
[06:12] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, any ideas why/
[06:12] <slew> !java
[06:12] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:12] <pramz> firestone, and for purchasing check out sharpmusique
[06:12] <USCRyan> agrajag, oh this one had a bunch of command promps, and i just hit enter to use the default setting
[06:12] <eobanb> rob_p: thanks, i'll try that!
[06:12] <slew> !javadebs
[06:12] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:12] <xkahn> pramz: you forgot banshee!
[06:12] <Agrajag> well whatever, it's probably fine
[06:12] <Agrajag> anyway
[06:12] <xkahn> pramz: which, if you have an ipod, is really the only comparable player.
[06:12] <Agrajag> after it finds gcc it should tell you it need GTK and some other stuff
[06:12] <pramz> xkahn, thanks for reminding me. Thats a good player too
[06:13] <pramz> xkahn, amarok can interface with the ipod methinks
[06:13] <xkahn> pramz: yes!  It can.
[06:13] <xkahn> pramz: but it isn't comparable featurewise, if I understand correctly.
[06:13] <xkahn> when working with the ipod.
[06:13] <CarlFK> I know about the server install from the normal CD, but I thought there was a Ubuntu Server disk?  something new, but maybe it is too new
[06:13] <USCRyan> Agrajag, http://pastebin.com/445072
[06:13] <USCRyan> thats where i keep getting stuck
[06:13] <ericmoritz> anyone know of a Xwindows scripting tool, i.e. simulating mouse movements/clicks etc
[06:14] <xkahn> ericmoritz: dogpile?
[06:14] <pramz> xkahn, heh i dont have an ipod, the only ipod i bought i bought as a bday present for my mom :)
[06:14] <ccooke> ericmoritz: try the package 'xautomation'
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[06:14] <pramz> xkahn, i use amarok so i can update my last.fm profile
[06:14] <Agrajag> USCRyan: so, sudo apt-get install yacc
[06:14] <xkahn> pramz: me either.  Although I do have an mp3 player.
[06:14] <xkahn> which doesn't work with anything.
[06:14] <Agrajag> USCRyan: or bison, it may be the same thing
[06:14] <ericmoritz> xkahn: do you mean dogtail?
[06:14] <xkahn> Although I bugged the banshee guy to support it.
[06:14] <xkahn> ericmoritz: yeah.  That.
[06:15] <eedge> moo
[06:15] <ericmoritz> xkahn: dogpile is a cooler name though
[06:15] <xkahn> ericmoritz: I should use it for a project.  :)
[06:15] <deltron> hehe dogpile
[06:15] <USCRyan> agrajag, k bison installed
[06:15] <deltron> like dogpile.com?
[06:15] <pramz> xkahn, which player ?
[06:15] <Agrajag> ok, tell it to use bison then
[06:15] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, you there?
[06:15] <xkahn> pramz: the zen micro.
[06:15] <xkahn> pramz: I got it as a gift from my wife.
[06:16] <slew> anyone know if the new firefox is available in .deb format yet?
[06:16] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : sorry I lost the discussion. Did you download and install the metacity?
[06:16] <xkahn> pramz: it's the same as the dell players inside, but with a better button interface.
[06:16] <pramz> xkahn, ooh nice player
[06:16] <pramz> http://www.dvnull.org/files/sshots/sshot-2005-12-01_02.png
[06:16] <hostix> hey
[06:16] <mwe> slew: firefox wont get updated in the official repos until the next release of ubuntu
[06:16] <xkahn> pramz: that is a nice looking application.
[06:16] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, yes, did you see the links I gave you
[06:17] <pramz> xkahn, amarok :-)
[06:17] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : I went on the link for the theme you try to install
[06:17] <hostix> im trying to compile vmware but it needs gcc-3.4.5 becaous my kernel is compiled with it but i only have 4.x what can i do is there a deb any wherre or what i would prefere not to recompile the kernel
[06:18] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, it ends up like the Metacity theme and not .. Water Vapour
[06:18] <pramz> heh my hosting provider setup a RHEL3 server for us and upgraded openssl and openssh using source without making it rpms or uninstalling the old ones
[06:18] <xkahn> yeah.  And they ALL beat the zen micro linux app, gnomad2 http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/pictures/main.png
[06:18] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : I went on the link for the theme you try to install
[06:18] <Agrajag> hostix: just install gcc-3.4
[06:18] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : I don't understand
[06:18] <pramz> im going through it and cleaning it up now. Its an administration nightmare
[06:18] <hostix> i can't find it
[06:18] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, let me get links
[06:18] <Agrajag> hostix: what?
[06:19] <slew> mwe thanks
[06:19] <hostix> gcc-3.4.5
[06:19] <A|iazaR> Hello
[06:19] <Agrajag> hostix: no
[06:19] <USCRyan> agrajag, did i need to uninstall the old version before i installed the new?
[06:19] <Agrajag> gcc-3.4
[06:19] <xychix> hostix: what is the problem ?
[06:19] <xychix> i just also installed older gcc
[06:19] <mwe> Agrajag: afaik modules compiled with a different compiler than the kernel wont work
[06:19] <hostix> im trying to compile vmware but it needs gcc-3.4.5 becaous my kernel is compiled with it but i only have 4.x what can i do is there a deb any wherre or what i would prefere not to recompile the kernel,
[06:19] <xychix> mwe: correct
[06:19] <xychix> hostix: ah ok
[06:19] <Agrajag> mwe: that is the same version
[06:19] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26980 <-- Thats what I WANT.....yet this is what I get -->http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29656
[06:19] <xychix> hostix: query (i also compiled vmware 30 mins ago)
[06:19] <Agrajag> the gcc-3.4 package installs the same compiler used to build the kernel on breezy.
[06:20] <mwe> good then
[06:20] <Agrajag> USCRyan: no, the version you compile should install to /usr/local instead of /usr
[06:20] <hostix> well apt-get install gcc-3.4 worked
[06:20] <hostix> thx
[06:20] <hostix> xychix, nice to know :)
[06:20] <Agrajag> hostix: ok, you may need to set the CC variable to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 when you run the vmware scripts
[06:20] <hostix> if i run into probloms i ping you :) muhahah
[06:20] <Agrajag> hostix: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[06:21] <USCRyan> agrajag, it told me to run /usr/bin/make and then i got a whole bunch of errors, want me to pastebin?
[06:21] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, brb tea - tell me if you find out how to get it like that
[06:21] <Agrajag> USCRyan: /usr/bin/make?
[06:21] <No1Viking> I'm looking for a compilator for C++ with an interface?
[06:21] <Agrajag> oh
[06:21] <Agrajag> right
[06:21] <Agrajag> ok pastebin it
[06:21] <xychix> Agrajag: i replaced the gcc link
[06:21] <xychix> temporary
[06:21] <USCRyan> k
[06:21] <Agrajag> xychix: eh, that's kind of a bad way to do  it but it works
[06:21] <xychix> :P ok
[06:22] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : OK. This is the same theme basis. After you have to modify things like changing the background, modifying the transparency of the console, adding a new control panel at the bottom....
[06:22] <USCRyan> agrajag, http://pastebin.com/445083  thats just a little of it so you get the idea =)
[06:23] <K_Dallas> Q: I have installed jack and alsa but still only a single program i able to use the audio device. what else do i need to do? Thanks
[06:23] <No1Viking> I'm looking for a compilator for C++ with an interface?
[06:23] <lewiz> Hi, can anybody tell me what time zone cdimage.ubuntulinux.org runs on?  ISOs get built at 08:30 and I'd just like to know when that is.
[06:23] <mwe> No1Viking: for c++ ide I like kdevelop or eclipse with the c++ plug in
[06:24] <No1Viking> Thanks mwe, do I need KDE installed for it?
[06:25] <gfish> mwe, cant i just update
[06:25] <hostix> got the gcc to work just needed some symlink but know i get
[06:25] <hostix> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:25] <hostix> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[06:25] <K_Dallas> No1Viking, not all of kde but certain parts of it
[06:25] <hostix> now*
[06:25] <No1Viking> oKtosiTe_, thanks!  =)
[06:26] <Agrajag> USCRyan: do you have the GTK development packages and all that installed?
[06:26] <mwe> No1Viking: apt will get the kdelibs for you when you install kdevelop
[06:26] <Agrajag> hostix: I think you need to install kernel-headers
[06:27] <hostix> Agrajag, no pakage an kernel-source cant install becouse for my version
[06:27] <xychix> hostix: juh that was wat i was trying to tell ya in query
[06:27] <xychix> uname -a
[06:27] <USCRyan> agrajag, probably not
[06:27] <hostix> Linux Hostix 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:27] <USCRyan> agrajag, this is my first day with linux =)
[06:27] <melonipoika> hola
[06:27] <xychix> hostix: uname -a   cut-n paste the exact kernel number  in  apt-cache search NUMBER
[06:27] <Agrajag> USCRyan: configure didn't tell you it was missing?
[06:28] <hostix> USCRyan, congrats
[06:28] <K_Dallas> mwe, i am trying to install eclipse but i dont need its java support just C/C++ and LaTeX and i fail to find them in the synaptic. any help with that? thanks
[06:28] <oskude> hostix, then you need "linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386"
[06:28] <xychix> there you;ll find the headers to install
[06:28] <melonipoika> alguien sabe cmo puedo escribir un espacio " " en fstab?
[06:28] <USCRyan> agrajag, nope....i have an old version of gtk gnutella installed already
[06:28] <USCRyan> hostix, thx
[06:28] <Agrajag> USCRyan: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:28] <xychix> oskude: assuming thats his kernel
[06:28] <melonipoika> uy uy, sorry, i forgot that i was in this forum... my question in english
[06:28] <oskude> xychix, did he just posted his "uname" ?
[06:28] <melonipoika> does anyone know how to add space character in fstab?
[06:28] <hostix> oskude, k im trying that :)
[06:28] <Stormx2> !xorg
[06:28] <ubotu> I guess xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:28] <xychix> oskude: ok sorry::)
[06:29] <Agrajag> USCRyan: for anything you need to build from source, you'll need -dev packages install for any libraries it uses
[06:29] <Ng> melonipoika: \040
[06:29] <melonipoika> thanks
[06:29] <mwe> K_Dallas: I downloaded both eclipse and the plugins from their web-site, so I can't help you there
[06:29] <Ng> melonipoika: very useful for mounting crazy windows shares ;)
[06:29] <Agrajag> USCRyan: you can search for t by using apt-cache search <libraryname> and find anything with -dev after it
[06:29] <USCRyan> agrajag, how can i find out which packages
[06:29] <K_Dallas> mwe, ok so not from the univers etc repos. thanks
[06:30] <USCRyan> agrajag, alright, i just installed that dev package, shoudl i try to make again?
[06:30] <Agrajag> USCRyan: configure should tell you if libraries it needs are missing
[06:30] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, im back
[06:30] <melonipoika> Ng, right
[06:30] <melonipoika> thanks
[06:30] <hostix> Hmm
[06:31] <tristan> Alex[RM-UK]  : OK. This is the same theme basis. After you have to modify things like changing the background, modifying the transparency of the console, adding a new control panel at the bottom....
[06:31] <USCRyan> agrajag, im still gettin the same errors but brb in 5min i gotta grab lunch
[06:31] <Alex[RM-UK] > tristan, so if im doing it right, why does it not turn out like in the picture?
[06:31] <hostix> i get "The configuration of VMware Workstation 5.0.0 build-13124 for Linux for this
[06:31] <hostix> running kernel completed successfully" but when i run vmware i get vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[06:31] <hostix> reboot or what?
[06:31] <Agrajag> USCRyan: well, I gotta get back to work, hope someone else can pick up from here
[06:32] <sobersabre> where do I get latest skype for ubuntu ?
[06:32] <hostix> skype.com
[06:32] <sobersabre> hostix will it install ?!
[06:32] <jeremywhiting> hi all, anyone here have ogg audio files preview in nautilus working?
[06:32] <sobersabre> last time i tried it didn't.
[06:32] <Alex[RM-UK] > but tristan .... my theme looks NOTHING like it, I mean the window border isn't the same
[06:32] <jeremywhiting> it will preview mp3's, but not ogg's for some reason for me
[06:33] <Alex[RM-UK] > now that can't be down to changing background + transparancy!
[06:33] <sobersabre> hostix are you sure ?
[06:33] <keenan> new kernel in dapper works great on my thinkpad
[06:33] <keenan> good job team!
[06:33] <JulienH> How can I duplicate a server installation on another server ?
[06:33] <simon__> Attention: Go to DesktopLinux.com Forums and complain about their dismal layout. Its owned by Ziff Davis and its poo.
[06:34] <JulienH> I've two servers (identical), I've installed ubuntu on one, and I want to have the same installation on the second one
[06:34] <JulienH> How can I do that ?
[06:34] <eobanb> so i've apt-got nvidia-glx-legacy and set my xorg.conf to use nvidia, but when i try to start X (or modprobe nvidia) it says error inserting nvidia (lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device ...any ideas?
[06:34] <oskude> JulienH, i use "partimage" for backupin partitions
[06:34] <jeremywhiting> JulienH, use some kind of ghosting software to take an image of the one and put it on the other
[06:35] <slew> does anyone know if the new firefox works with the java instructions on the wiki page? i cant seem to make it work following those directions. =[
[06:35] <oskude> JulienH, dunno if ubuntu livecd has it (i use systemrescuecd)
[06:36] <mwe> slew: I believe linking the plugin to /home/you/.mozilla/plugins should work
[06:36] <derek[] > Hi
[06:37] <slew> mwe yah, should work, cant find the plugin though
[06:37] <theine> keenan, in which ways is it an improvement over the old kernel?
[06:37] <theine> i.e. the one in breezy
[06:37] <keenan> well it has hdaps for one thing =)
[06:38] <derek[] > Should GRUB be installed in the MBR in the case of Dual-Boot?
[06:38] <mwe> slew: did you install sun java or what?
[06:38] <theine> keenan, what's that?
[06:38] <Alex[RM-UK] > how do I change my Meta city Theme?
[06:38] <oskude> derek[] , no, you can also install it to a floppy...
[06:39] <theine> keenan, ah, i see
[06:39] <derek[] > I mean, what's better?
[06:39] <theine> keenan, that's pretty nice
[06:39] <slew> mwe i followed the directions on the wiki page, the sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:39] <slew>  file it had me build.
[06:39] <slew> this one:
[06:39] <keenan> yeah, i'm playing around with hdaps-gl right now
[06:39] <slew> !java
[06:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:39] <keenan> pretty hypnotizing
[06:39] <oskude> derek[] , mbr is comfortable, floppy is "safer"
[06:40] <Xanthus> Hi guys, I have a live-cd question. I'm using the latest 15" powerbook and when ubuntu tries to determine my cd-rom it says it might be an old one and that I should insert install cd for the drive. could it be that my drive is so new that there are no drivers available yet? it's version 5.10 for mac
[06:40] <sobersabre> what can cause slow skype startup ?
[06:40] <mwe> slew: I installed java manually, but dpkg -L sun-j2re1.5|grep plugin might give you a hint as where to look for the plugin
[06:40] <dmlinux> anyone here use VMware?
[06:40] <derek[] > oskude: ok
[06:41] <oskude> sobersabre, dunno, i have it too. but it works...
[06:41] <slew> mwe thanks =] 
[06:41] <huepil>  irc.cl
[06:41] <huepil>  /server irc.cl
[06:41] <sobersabre> oskude which verrsion ?
[06:41] <dmlinux> Can anyone tell me how VMware Workstation performes under linux (running windows as virtual machine)
[06:41] <sobersabre> !ask ubotu skype
[06:41] <ubotu> sobersabre: I give up, what is it?
[06:41] <oskude> sobersabre, 1.2.0.18_API
[06:42] <sobersabre> and you have downloaded it from skype.com ?
[06:42] <oskude> oskude, cant remember :) but it was updated through apt-get week ago or so...
[06:42] <akonkwa> how do I enable 3d acceleration?
[06:42] <sobersabre> and you have creezy cadger ?
[06:42] <sobersabre> akonkwa you need to press "3d" button.
[06:43] <oskude> sobersabre, yup (but i have backports too..)
[06:43] <sobersabre> i see.
[06:43] <akonkwa> sobersabre,  I don't see why it's a stupid question
[06:43] <mwe> akonkwa: it's not
[06:44] <simarillion> how can I see my up and downstream from internet??? Is there any program???
[06:44] <akonkwa> mwe, thanx
[06:44] <kinkoblast> Is there a faster browser than Firefox?
[06:44] <mwe> akonkwa: you have the install the right driver for your card
[06:44] <oskude> akonkwa, what gfx card do you have ?
[06:44] <akonkwa> mwe,  I did
[06:44] <slew> mwe thanks again, works fine. =]  apprecaite it.
[06:44] <mwe> slew: good
[06:44] <akonkwa> I have a nvidia geforce fx5200 and I installed the nvidia drivers
[06:44] <slew> mwe shoulda just did the manual install in the first place =] 
[06:45] <mwe> akonkwa: what card is it, what did you do? eg did you update xorg.conf etc? is the module loaded?
[06:45] <kinkoblast> Is there a faster graphical browser than Firefox, I should say.\
[06:45] <oskude> akonkwa, hmm, cant remember nvidia driver name, have had ati too long :)
[06:45] <kinkoblast> Lynx Links and friends are very fast :-P
[06:45] <Jowi> To anyone who is interested of getting their Via Epia to work properly, I've now put up a new wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViaEpiaDriHowto
[06:45] <akonkwa> mwe :I have a nvidia geforce fx5200 and I installed the nvidia drivers   . how do I update xorg.cont ?
[06:45] <daved> are there any firefox 1.5 packages anywhere?
[06:45] <mwe> xorg.conf
[06:45] <akonkwa> "xorg.conf"
[06:46] <x_or> Is there a good guide for setting up a wireless card using ndiswrapper?  Or, is there a simple command I can run?
[06:46] <Xanthus> anyone here tried the 5.10 live-cd on their powerbook?
[06:46] <oskude> akonkwa, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look that you have "nvidia" for drivers name in there
[06:46] <sobersabre> akonkwa u need to change "nv" into "nvidia" first.
[06:46] <kinkoblast> x_or: there is great stuff on the wiki
[06:46] <mwe> !nvidia
[06:46] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:46] <kinkoblast> !ndiswrapper
[06:46] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:46] <x_or> kinkoblast:  Thanks!
[06:47] <mwe> akonkwa: that wiki will probably tell you step by step what to do
[06:47] <eobanb> where is the kernel config file? i need to check if nvidiafb is statically linked..
[06:47] <Jowi> eobanb: should be under /usr/src/linux/.config
[06:47] <eobanb> apparently nvidiafb conflicts with nvidia-glx-legacy sometimes
[06:47] <eobanb> and lsmod isnt showing it
[06:47] <kinkoblast> (It is buggyer than native, but i haven't had any problems (barring it sometimes forgeting my configuration when i restart)
[06:47] <Ng> eobanb: if you're running a stock ubuntu kernel there will be a copy of the config used in /boot/
[06:48] <webwolf_27> any programmers in germany out there?
[06:48] <eobanb> ah, okay
[06:48] <akonkwa> mwe : what is the address of the wiki?
[06:48] <Jowi> !wiki
[06:48] <kinkoblast> !wiki
[06:48] <oskude> webwolf_27, ? i can german, but im only a tiny script programmer :)
[06:48] <x_or> I see on the ndiswrapper site a list of the driver to use, but no place to download the Broadcom Corporation BCM4301 802.11b driver.  Anyone have this or know where I can get it?
[06:48] <mwe> !nvidia
[06:48] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:49] <mwe> akonkwa: that's it
[06:49] <kinkoblast> x_or: It should be on the disk that came with your wireless card.
[06:49] <webwolf_27> oskude, I accually had a question to the wage of a starting ( no experience ) programmer
[06:49] <x_or> kinkoblast:  Well, I got the wireless card from a recycling center, so I received no CD.
[06:50] <kinkoblast> Ah...
[06:50] <kinkoblast> um, manufacturer's website?
[06:50] <oskude> webwolf_27, and you need help in german ?
[06:50] <x_or> Yeah, I am looking there now.
[06:50] <derek[] > my floppy drive doesn't work. I can't create the bootloader on a floppy. I'm scared about installing it on the MBR
[06:50] <kinkoblast> oskude: Wages are different in different areas...
[06:51] <slew> does gnome have transparent windows available?
[06:51] <webwolf_27> oskude, No I speak german
[06:51] <kinkoblast> slew: Probably not, but why would you WANT them?
[06:51] <oskude> kinkoblast, aah wages... sry, i have no clue, i dont work as programmer (and never would :)
[06:51] <jcaine> anyone with a howto for java 1.5?
[06:51] <slew> kinkoblast, not really wanting them, just wondering if they were there. =] 
[06:51] <slew> !java
[06:51] <Ng> jcaine: see the java page in the wiki
[06:51] <mwe> slew: I think you need the cvs version of xorg for that. that's not too easy (or recommended) though
[06:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:52] <oskude> webwolf_27, did you try #ubuntu-de ? da sind die deutschen :)
[06:52] <Ng> jcaine: or what ubotu just said :)
[06:52] <jcaine> :) thanks guys
[06:52] <XiCillin> does anyone have problems with nmap on ubuntu?
[06:52] <XiCillin> i get operation not permitted sometimes, even though I'm root
[06:52] <x_or> Damn, this driver does not seem easy to find.  Can anyone share the bcmwl5.inf file with me?
[06:52] <kinkoblast> slew: Heh. Transparency in MSWindows is just an anoying gimick.
[06:52] <oskude> gotta get the laundry... brb :)
[06:53] <webwolf_27> oskude, on my way
[06:53] <snorks> XiCillin: wax/pflak linux
[06:53] <kinkoblast> Apple did it better, but it's still just eyecandy
[06:53] <CarlFK> Is there an official version of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DraftBreezyServerAnnouncement ?
[06:53] <snorks> XiCillin: phlak
[06:53] <XiCillin> what about phlak snorks
[06:54] <refnumzx> compiling with g++ -wall is unknown option?
[06:54] <jcaine> transset = pretty sexeh
[06:54] <webwolf_27> refnemzx, isn't that -Wall
[06:54] <x_or> Hey, if any of you are interested, the Portland Linux Users Group hosted Jeff Waugh the other night.  There is a podcast here:  http://plug.podasp.com
[06:54] <daved> are there any firefox 1.5 packages anywhere?
[06:54] <daved> for breezy
[06:55] <Enyo> hey
[06:55] <daved> even unofficial?
[06:55] <slew> daved, not yet
[06:55] <Enyo> does anyone have any experience on getting SugarCRM to work on Ubuntu?
[06:55] <slew> daved, i just did an install, wasnt that bad.
[06:55] <daved> slew: lemme rephrase.. are there any debs anywhere, i dont care if they're in a repo
[06:55] <daved> slew: ugh, you didnt install in /usr did you?
[06:55] <slew> daved, still, no. trust me, i looked.
[06:56] <slew> daved, no, installed in ~/.mozilla
[06:56] <daved> wtf
[06:56] <daved> you installed an app in a dot directory?
[06:56] <mwe> daved: there wont ever be any official firefox1.5 package in breezy, according to the ubuntu policy
[06:56] <Agrajag> slew: why would you do that?
[06:56] <daved> nwe: hence why i dont care if they're official
[06:56] <Agrajag> slew: /opt is a better place for something like that
[06:56] <slew> why wouldnt i?
[06:56] <simarillion>  how can I see my up and downstream from internet??? Is there any program???
[06:56] <Enyo> simarillion, you can use gkrellm
[06:56] <daved> slew: dot-directories are for user-specific configuration
[06:56] <daved> slew: not for installing apps
[06:56] <simarillion> Thx
[06:56] <slew> thats where the old mozilla was
[06:57] <Agrajag> slew: because that directory is for user-specific configuration files, not the program itself
[06:57] <Agrajag> slew: no it wasn't
[06:57] <daved> no it wasnt
[06:57] <slew> prove it
[06:57] <daved> its config files were there
[06:57] <pramz> yay @ inept datacenter techs
[06:57] <Agrajag> slew: go run /usr/bin/firefox. That's where the old one was.
[06:57] <pramz> I dont understand how they get jobs :(
[06:57] <webwolf_27> daved, thats where they belong
[06:57] <signbarn> is there a way to edit the artist and title tags on mp4 (aac) music files?
[06:57] <daved> heh, slew is probably still running the old one and doesn't know it
[06:57] <Agrajag> hah
[06:57] <gparent> Hi guys.
[06:57] <slew> bash: /usr/bin/firefox: No such file or directory
[06:57] <Agrajag> I wouldn't doubt it
[06:57] <Enyo> slew, lmao
[06:58] <Agrajag> slew: you uninstalled it?
[06:58] <Enyo> slew, ls /usr/bin/ | grep -i "firefox"
[06:58] <Enyo> i cant believe you don't have it in there
[06:58] <daved> he uninstalled it and hosed his system
[06:58] <Enyo> LMAO
[06:58] <daved> and happily thinks he's doing a good job
[06:58] <kvantti>  hi there. i have managed to configure gxine in such a way that playing encrypted dvd's is possible with 2.1 sound but i cannot enable dts audio in any application..solves, anyone?
[06:58] <refnumzx> hmmm yeah it is but this thing does not work anyway
[06:58] <daved> god i fear for the next generation of sysadmins
[06:58] <gparent> <No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper.> well I guess that answers my question
[06:58] <gparent> lol
[06:58] <slew> Enyo, nothing happens
[06:58] <Enyo> if you use apt-get, you'll have no problems, honestly
[06:58] <slew> =] 
[06:59] <Enyo> daved, people like that DON'T become sysadmins
[06:59] <slew> how is my system hosed?
[06:59] <slew> still working, isnt it?
[06:59] <Enyo> slew, because you don't fuck around with things if you don't know how they work.
[06:59] <webwolf_27> doesn't ubuntu call it mozilla-firefox
[06:59] <slew> enyo no reason to swear is it/
[06:59] <slew> ?
[06:59] <Enyo> No, it isn't
[06:59] <Agrajag> webwolf_27: no, it's firefox
[06:59] <Enyo> s/fuck/mess/
[06:59] <Chousuke> Enyo: They do, at schools
[06:59] <signbarn> does anyone know if is there a way to edit the artist and title tags on mp4 (aac) music files? i use EasyTAG for ogg and mp3 tag editing.
[06:59] <NoUse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:59] <slew> i dont see the problem, if the program works.
[07:00] <Agrajag> anyway, I installed 1.5 in /chroot/opt and t works reasonably well
[07:00] <Agrajag> slew: do you have any other users on your system?
[07:00] <webwolf_27> ok then that was only the deb package
[07:00] <slew> no of course not
[07:00] <Steil> slew: the way you did it is really not a good practice.
[07:00] <Agrajag> If you did, they would be unable to use it.
[07:00] <slew> well its just me and root
[07:00] <slew> and root never comes over any more
[07:00] <kvantti> well the solve for 90 % of things is to use plain old sudo
[07:00] <Steil> did you install it in ~/.mozilla/firefox?
[07:01] <slew> yes of course
[07:01] <webwolf_27> slew, that is where the local config files belong, not the app
[07:01] <Steil> actually, theres nothing wrong with that
[07:01] <oskude> b
[07:02] <slew> webwolf_27, well then everything will be all in one place, then wont it?
[07:02] <webwolf_27> slew, yes but only that user can then use it
[07:02] <Agrajag> slew: that isn't how it's supposed to be in a unix-like OS.
[07:02] <Chousuke> slew: What happens when you for some reason want to wipe your config?
[07:02] <Chousuke> or back it up
[07:02] <Chousuke> lots of manual work
[07:02] <slew> why would i want to wipe my config?
[07:03] <Chousuke> if it gets f'd up for some reason
[07:03] <webwolf_27> if it gets broken somehow
[07:03] <Enyo> Chousuke, the prof at least teaches you the basics before you dive in and make a mess.
[07:03] <slew> who cares if its how its SUPPOSED to be? it works for me, thats all that matters to me.
[07:03] <Agrajag> slew: configuration goes in the user's home, binaries in /bin, /usr/bin, or /usr/local/bin, libs in similar directores, system-wide config in /etc, and so on
[07:03] <qu1dam> Hello
[07:03] <eobanb> ...
[07:03] <johnis> hi
[07:03] <eobanb> he installed firefox in ~/.mozilla/ ?!
[07:03] <Agrajag> eobanb: yes
[07:03] <slew> but its just me, Agrajag.
[07:03] <u1sun> heyy
[07:03] <slew> i dont see the problem here
[07:03] <u1sun> hi all
[07:04] <mwe> user binaries could go in ~/bin. that's common too
[07:04] <Chousuke> slew: the problem is that config and binaries should be separate
[07:04] <u1sun> i have executed a .bin
[07:04] <Agrajag> mwe: well yeah
[07:04] <u1sun> ffmpeg2theora
[07:04] <slew> why
[07:04] <johnis> can any one help me on a problem i have plz?
[07:04] <Chousuke> slew: easier that way
[07:04] <u1sun> and i am trying to get it to load from the terminal
[07:04] <webwolf_27> slew, it's non-standard and makes it harder for others to help you
[07:04] <u1sun> but my cp command does not work
[07:04] <slew> but i dont need any help anymore. =] 
[07:04] <Chousuke> otherwise you can put apps in /foobar/zonk if you want
[07:04] <Chousuke> :P
[07:05] <eobanb> johnis, what is it
[07:05] <Agrajag> Chousuke: but that's where I keep my porn!
[07:06] <neo_> hiiIIIi
[07:06] <subbie> guys i have something real weird going on.  if i do /etc/init.d/apache2 start, it just jumps back to the command prompt with no response but /usr/sbin/apache2 will start up apache2.  any ideas whats going on here?
[07:06] <Chousuke> Agrajag: :P
[07:06] <neo_> how I can run an IRC server in my own lan?
[07:06] <webwolf_27> slew, and next time? It would have been better to just run ./configure && make && make local install
[07:06] <Enyo> neo_, is the hostname of your box neo?
[07:06] <oskude> subbie, your using apache2 controlled by "inetd", or theres allready apache 1.3 running...
[07:07] <Enyo> neo_, like, user@neo$
[07:07] <Niosop> Hello, I've set up a kubuntu install to authenticate against an OpenLDAP server, and mount home directories using autofs.  But kde takes about 5-10 minutes to come up when logging in as an OpenLDAP authenticated user.  And after it comes up, it gives a couple of errors about the trash, media and service protocols dying.  Anyone have a working setup or any ideas?
[07:07] <neo_> yes
[07:07] <johnis> when ever i go to college and connect through there 802.11b conection i can go on the net but cannot logon to irc so is there a way of making it look like my computer is going through and unblocked port such as 80 and actuly connect onto the server port 6667?
[07:07] <XiCillin> download an irc server
[07:07] <subbie> oskude: i uninstalled apache 1.3 so it msut be that its controlled by inetd.  Sorry im a gentoo user im not totally familiar with inetd.  Can i still start apache2 on boot if /etc/init.d/apache2 doesn't respond?
[07:08] <u1sun> hi
[07:08] <u1sun> how do i cp an executed file, so it works in terminal?
[07:08] <u1sun> sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:08] <u1sun> this command brings errors
[07:08] <Enyo> johnis, port forwarding?
[07:08] <slew> webwolf_27, there is no .configure
[07:08] <eobanb> what errors, u1sun
[07:08] <NoUse> subbie dpkg -S /etc/init.d/apache2 will tell you what package owns that file
[07:08] <johnis> yeh basicly i have no idear how to doit
[07:08] <slew> webwolf_27, have you looked at the archive?
[07:09] <oskude> subbie, i have no idea about inetd too :) apache2 did ask for "standalone" or "inetd" on install, but cant seem to get it with dpkg-reconfigure
[07:09] <johnis> i did download a program cqalled guide dog but i could get it to work :(
[07:09] <u1sun> eobanb, sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:09] <webwolf_27> slew, how then did you install it
[07:09] <u1sun> eo0banb,cp: cannot stat `/home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin': No such file or directory
[07:09] <Trackilizer> LINKIN PARK 4EVER!!!!!!!
[07:10] <slew> webwolf_27, i followed the directions, tar -xvzf in the dir where i wanted to install and that was that.
[07:10] <u1sun> eobanb, cp: cannot stat `/home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin': No such file or directory
[07:10] <funburn_> has anyone had success getting a LaCie F800 working under Ubuntu?
[07:10] <webwolf_27> slew, is there any reason that you didn't want to use the deb
[07:10] <subbie> so then would i use inetd to start apache2 on boot?
[07:11] <slew> webwolf_27, i downloaded from firefox web page, didnt see a deb, asked in here and was told there wasnt a deb until dapper
[07:11] <NoUse> subbie I would 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2' and then reinstall, that might fix it
[07:11] <johnis> any one got any idear on how to do it?
[07:11] <NoUse> !firefox15
[07:11] <ubotu> hmm... firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[07:11] <subbie> NoUse: that will blast my config files as well correct?
[07:11] <NoUse> slew you can generate a deb on that page
[07:12] <NoUse> subbie yeah
[07:12] <webwolf_27> slew, because you wanted 1.5b
[07:12] <slew> see, no one did that for me then
[07:12] <kvantti> i was wondering about passing this -channels 6 parameter to mplayer..this is described as solve for 5.1 sound, but it does nothing (won't start-unknown) for me
[07:12] <slew> sorry i pissed everyone off by doing something my way instead of the way everyone else does it. didnt mean to make my own decisions. sheesh.
[07:12] <kvantti> i know that -Dplug:surround51 -c6 should be used, but that won't work either
[07:13] <johnis> anyone know how to port forward here?
[07:13] <eobanb> depends on the nat device
[07:14] <eobanb> you are using ubuntu as a router or something?
[07:14] <oskude> johnis, yeah, i learned it ones, and forgot it right away :)
[07:14] <qu1dam> What do i need to install to watch movies embedded in web pages?
[07:14] <Like> hey
[07:14] <Dethread> ping
[07:14] <johnis> lol, thanks for the help
[07:14] <eobanb> qu1dam, read the faq
[07:14] <NoUse> !faq
[07:14] <ubotu> faq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <Like> my sound dosent work, im sorry i can't give more info but its my first time with ubuntu
[07:15] <oskude> johnis, but google should be able to help (its an old question)
[07:15] <NoUse> !tell Like about sound
[07:15] <johnis> thx
[07:15] <slew> slew anyone know if the new firefox is available in .deb format yet?      mwe slew: firefox wont get updated in the official repos until the next release of ubuntu
[07:15] <qu1dam> Like, my sound does not work either.  I am going to look in the faq I will let you know what i find out.
[07:15] <jenda> Hey folks. Anyone know a bit abut DOSBOX?
[07:15] <Like> k
[07:16] <holycow> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-11-04-018-26-OP-SS-NV-0089  <-- interesting post
[07:16] <webwolf_27> slew, I'm not mad at you. And doing it you own way is fine. It's just non-standard and may cause problems in the future
[07:16] <jenda> I'm getting a very choppy game in DOSBOX, while having a decent system. Is there a way to fix that?
[07:16] <slew> webwolf_27, im not sure i care if you are mad at me or not. if it causes problems then i at least know how to uninstall it. =]   thanks for the help, though.
[07:17] <webwolf_27> slew, I'm always happy to help
[07:17] <XiCillin> for firewalls, what do you use firestarter or iptables?
[07:17] <NoUse> XiCillin firestarter is a frontend for iptables
[07:17] <oskude> jenda, maybe your system is "too" fast...
[07:17] <webwolf_27> XiCillin, firestarter use IPtables
[07:17] <trappist> firestarter is just a frontend for iptables
[07:17] <mwe> heh, yeah
[07:18] <jenda> oskude: would reducung CPUcycles fix it? It's a 1600
[07:18] <XiCillin> eep, ....i knew that. jk thanks
[07:18] <eobanb> jenda, i would see about whether or not you're using your graphics card's hardware acceleration
[07:18] <oskude> jenda, maybe you can tell dosbox to run slower... sry never used dosbox...
[07:18] <eobanb> jenda, oskude was joking
[07:18] <eobanb> (i think......????)
[07:18] <JulienH> I have a 2*Xeon EMT64 box, can is the linux-image-amd64-k8-smp package compatible ?
[07:18] <jenda> eobanb: I am
[07:18] <Like> i think i found my sound problem it can't find the sound card "aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[07:18] <Like> "
[07:18] <trappist> I hate it when my box is too fast.  damn causality errors.
[07:18] <Like> how can i fix it??
[07:19] <eobanb> uhhhh so choppy as in 'too fast'? or choppy as in 'low frame rate'
[07:19] <bobi_> does anyone know how to put the famous quote thing at the beginning of evey aterm session?
[07:19] <subbie> NoUse: thanks very much, i got apache2 working now by doing that.  How would i got about making sure it runs at boottime?
[07:19] <Chousuke> bobi_: fortune?
[07:19] <gparent> Im gonna look like a noob (which I am), but I installed Firestarter and cant find it in the menu
[07:19] <Chousuke> just install fortune and put it in your shell's rc file
[07:19] <gparent> Or Im blind. nvm
[07:20] <eobanb> julienH i really doubt it
[07:20] <navarone> Aplications/System Tools
[07:20] <gparent> Yeah. Dunno how I missed ti
[07:20] <JulienH> eobanb: because I haven't found any xeon smp package, juste a simple xeon package
[07:20] <NoUse> subbie I think that gets set automatically, basically just make sure it is symlinked in /etc/rc2.d
[07:20] <johnis> how do i quit off irc from console?
[07:21] <NoUse> johnis /quit
[07:21] <eobanb> depends on your client, johnis
[07:21] <jenda> eobanb: choppy as in low FR
[07:21] <eobanb> lol
[07:21] <eobanb> okay
[07:21] <NoUse> eobanb he found it :-)
[07:21] <eobanb> apparently.
[07:21] <jenda> eobanb: Or even skipping frames
[07:21] <eobanb> jenda, what are you trying to run
[07:22] <subbie> NoUse: thanks again
[07:22] <jenda> eobanb: Settlers 2 :)
[07:22] <NoUse> subbie sure
[07:22] <eobanb> well is it playable or is it completely unusable?
[07:22] <eobanb> i mean if it's just skipping every once and a while i'd attribute it to dosbox
[07:23] <cc-Ghost> Is anyone running JEdit?  I've added it to the Apt source list and Installed it, but it won't work.  Are there any issues or trick to getting it to run?
[07:23] <eobanb> if it's really really slow there might be some other problem
[07:23] <gparent> The Syntax highlighter?
[07:23] <gparent> I tried to install it for got some errors. Sorry.
[07:23] <GigaClon> jenda, there is a linux implementation of Settlers 2 if that is completely unplayable
[07:23] <jenda> eobanb: Unplayable. response delay about two seconds, and frames about a second apart.
[07:23] <Jxpx> hey i got a .exe file in my ubuntu , i want compress it to copy in a disket , how can i do that?
[07:23] <jenda> GigaClon: Cool. What's it called?
[07:24] <GigaClon> dunno
[07:24] <gparent> I was gonna check if notepad++ was Linux compatible
[07:24] <GigaClon> www.happypenguin.org
[07:24] <jenda> GigaClon: I was basically playing it just far the memories.
[07:24] <NoUse> Jxpx file-roller is the gnome compression app
[07:24] <eobanb> well there's freeciv...
[07:25] <GigaClon>  jenda, its called widelands
[07:25] <GigaClon> http://www.happypenguin.org/show?widelands
[07:25] <Jxpx> nouse where can i download it?
[07:25] <johnis> can you block ports via router?
[07:25] <anna_> please can anybody tell me,how to install icon themes?
[07:25] <eobanb> file-roller comes with ubuntu
[07:25] <jenda> eobanb: lol. That's not the point, is it?
[07:26] <NoUse> Jxpx it's installed by default
[07:26] <oskude> anna_, drag and drop them to your theme manager...
[07:26] <eobanb> jenda, what?
[07:26] <Jxpx> where?
[07:26] <Jxpx> :S
[07:26] <Jxpx> NoUse,  what must i do to compress the file
[07:26] <ardchoille> anna_: gnome-theme-manager?
[07:26] <jenda> eobanb: freeciv
[07:26] <anna_> thanks oskude
[07:26] <eobanb> i didnt know about widelands
[07:26] <johnis> is it possible to block ports via a router?
[07:26] <eobanb> i thought he might have been thinking of freeciv
[07:26] <anna_> do you mean the theme manager in the system preferences?
[07:26] <eobanb> johnis, can you please stop
[07:27] <ardchoille> anna_: yes
[07:27] <oskude> johnis, yes, if the router has "firewall"
[07:27] <johnis> stop what?
[07:27] <anna_> okay, thank you, i will try
[07:27] <chubak> how do i set up ubantu on grub?
[07:27] <johnis> thx
[07:27] <NoUse> Jxpx look in the apps menu, it might be called something
[07:27] <NoUse> else
[07:27] <eobanb> chubak: ...??
[07:27] <bobi_> does anyone know what the linux command to get a list of installed font is?
[07:28] <anna_> hm.. it doesnt work :(
[07:28] <anna_> ut says , the file format is not valid
[07:28] <cc-Ghost> Has anyone gotten JEdit running on Ubuntu?  I've got it installed but it won't run.
[07:29] <chubak> i am using grub with mutliple instalations how do I set up ubantu on the boot loader grub?
[07:29] <oskude> anna_, did you try to drag that link from gnome-look.org to System>Preferences>Theme and there "Theme Details" and then in "icon" tab
[07:29] <oskude> anna_, oh
[07:29] <oskude> anna_, where did you got your icon theme ?
[07:29] <GigaClon> chubak, if you install ubuntu it should set up grub for you
[07:29] <kvantti> i am now installing kmix to gnome as a desperate attempt to follow instructions to get 5.1 sound..am i asking for trouble, heh? nothing is removed..
[07:29] <sunsun> how do you copy over a bin file - to ffmpeg2theora
[07:30] <anna_> its from gnome look org oskude
[07:30] <chubak> yes but will that unto the current setup in grub?
[07:30] <Ofe> how do I see in 5.10 with no internet connection if I he
[07:30] <oskude> anna_, could you give me a link to the theme, so i can try it too
[07:30] <Ofe> how do I see in 5.10 with no internet connection if I have these http://roskakori.org/1.txt installed? sorry for that first line.
[07:30] <NoUse> Jxpx its called "Archive Manager"
[07:30] <ardchoille> Why is it that when I install a GTK2 theme with the theme manager that only the last theme in that tarball gets installed? But, when I unpack it to ~/.themes all 10 themes appear in the theme manager?
[07:30] <Jxpx> thanks nouse
[07:30] <anna_> okay, plesa wait a second ;)
[07:30] <GigaClon> chubak, it shouldn't but I dunno
[07:31] <anna_> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=16006
[07:31] <ardchoille> It seems the gnome-theme-manager installer has been fixed in gnome 2.12
[07:31] <anna_> sorry, my english isnt that good ;)
[07:31] <ardchoille> s/has/has not/
[07:32] <sunsun> how do you copy over an executed bin file to usr/local/bin file?
[07:32] <anna_> oh... it works!!
[07:32] <chubak> thx  I think I will save the grub conf files as a precaution.
[07:32] <sunsun> i mean to a usr/local/bin folder/
[07:32] <sunsun> ?
[07:32] <Lardarse> how do i set up multiple monitors?
[07:32] <anna_> sorry for stealing your time and thank you very much for your help ;)
[07:33] <chubak> thx for the help
[07:33] <oskude> anna_, nice, wont work here :)
[07:33] <anna_> sorry, i dont understand..
[07:33] <anna_> can you say it in other words please?
[07:34] <oskude> anna_, you said it works, but here it wont :) (the icon theme)
[07:34] <anna_> do you mean, you cannot install it on your computer?
[07:34] <anna_> ah okay..
[07:34] <oskude> anna_, nope, but if it works for you. thats enough :)
[07:35] <daved> where do you set the "default" browser in gnome?
[07:35] <anna_> okay.. i just dragged the whole archive into the theme manager ;)
[07:35] <anna_> thank you again ;)
[07:36] <anna_> byebye
[07:36] <fletch33> afternoon all i have a quick question if someone has an answer. i need to delete a file located in .mozilla/firefox/j6cd7xgt.default called "lock" but i can not figure out how. any help?
[07:36] <oskude> daved, System>Preferences>Preferred Applications
[07:36] <theCore> sunsun, can you be more clear, please ?
[07:37] <sunsun> i want to cp over an executed .bin file to usr/local/bin
[07:37] <jenda> fletch33: sudo rm "//something//.mozilla/firefox/j6cd7xgt.default/lock"
[07:37] <funburn_> when I upgraded to Breezy the Terminal menu item disappeared from the nautilus desktop contextual menu, can I get that back somehow?
[07:37] <sunsun> so that i can bring up the program in terminal
[07:37] <jenda> fletch33:But be very careful!
[07:37] <johnsie2k> what is the linux equivilent of nero bruning rom?
[07:38] <fletch33> jenda,  i tried that and it says no such file or dir. even though i can navigate to it
[07:38] <sunsun> the pprogramme is ffmpeg2theora
[07:38] <jenda> fletch33: what's the exact path?
[07:38] <theCore> sunsun, okay i see,
[07:38] <oskude> johnsie2k, nero :) (theres a linux version too)
[07:38] <theCore> sunsun, do you know how to use the terminal ?
[07:38] <NoUse> johnsie2k k3b
[07:39] <sunsun> theCore
[07:39] <sunsun> yes
[07:39] <ispiked> any way to turn off "confirm on emptry trash"?
[07:39] <jenda> fletch33: Just to make sure, you do know his will delete all the settings in the default profile for firefox?
[07:39] <fletch33> jenda,  /home/.mozilla/firefox/j6cd7xgt.default/lock
[07:39] <sunsun> theCore, so i do this -- sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora-1.1.linux.bin
[07:39] <oskude> NoUse, for ubuntu i would suggest gnomebaker (k3b for kubuntu)
[07:39] <fletch33> jenda,  i read it will only unlock it so i can use default again
[07:39] <sunsun> theCore OR also i have tried this:
[07:39] <sunsun> sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:39] <NoUse> oskude but gnomebaker blows haha
[07:40] <jenda> fletch33: try "sudo rm ./.mozilla/firefox/j6cd7xgt.default/lock"
[07:40] <fletch33> jenda,  i cant sign on because it says that default is in use
[07:40] <jenda> fletch33: OK
[07:40] <oskude> NoUse, ? works for me...
[07:40] <DRAGON_Ultra> k3b works great in ubuntu
[07:40] <NoUse> oskude it doens't have nearly the feature set of k3b
[07:40] <fletch33> jenda,  i will try that and brb thanks
[07:40] <jenda> OK
[07:40] <jenda> np
[07:40] <sunsun> theCore, sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:40] <oskude> NoUse, but is ubuntu (gnome) program...
[07:40] <derek[] > Hi
[07:40] <NoUse> oskude and? will the gnome police come and take me away now?
[07:40] <oskude> but the right answer is http://www.nero.com/eng/nerolinux-prog.html :)
[07:41] <DRAGON_Ultra> kubuntu is not as good as ubuntu to me anyway
[07:41] <oskude> NoUse, no
[07:41] <derek[] > I was installing ubuntu
[07:41] <NoUse> oskude I can burn VCDs from k3b, can I do that with gnomebaker?
[07:41] <derek[] > but i aborted
[07:41] <derek[] > as i had a doubt at the stage of partitioning
[07:41] <oskude> NoUse, dunno, never done that...
[07:41] <theCore> sunsun, so what was the result, did it worked ? what was the error?
[07:41] <derek[] > one of the options was "Configure the logical volume manager"
[07:41] <derek[] > what's that?
[07:42] <NoUse> oskude well it was a loaded question, you can't do that with gnomebaker
[07:42] <twibbler> so after a few hours of searching and trying out. I have failed to configure my xorg.conf file to have an external monitor giving a resolution of 1024 x 768 can anybody help please.
[07:42] <derek[] > (and the option above it was "configure software RAID")
[07:42] <fletch33> jenda,  http://pastebin.ca/32000
[07:42] <Enyo> < MechaniZM> how do i hack the internet with unix using aol?
[07:42] <NoUse> Enyo what channel did that come from?
[07:43] <jenda> fletch33: OK
[07:43] <sunsun> theCore, i get this: sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:43] <xychix> vmplayer is cool and amazing fast
[07:43] <sunsun> theCore, I get this: sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:43] <sunsun> sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:43] <mcdonaldswes> what exactly is the relationship between nroff and man?
[07:43] <sunsun> sudo cp /home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin  /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[07:43] <Enyo> NoUse, bash.org actually so i dont know lol
[07:43] <sunsun> oops, sorry
[07:43] <sunsun> this is a mistalle
[07:43] <sunsun> mistake
[07:43] <NoUse> Enyo damn :-)
[07:43] <jenda> fletch33: It's "./.mozilla/firefox/j6cd7xgt.default/lock"
[07:44] <fletch33> jenda,  i need to get my default user back for all my fav's passwords etc. and i read that deleting that will unlock firefox so that i can sign back in under default
[07:44] <jenda> fletch33: Both dots
[07:44] <fletch33> jenda,  trying that now thanks
[07:44] <gparent> Guys I'm trying to run a .jar, but I get the error "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jedit42install.jar
[07:44] <gparent> "
[07:44] <gparent> Using the command java -jar filename.jar
[07:45] <sunsun> theCore, i get this error message cp: cannot stat `/home/u1sun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin': No such file or directory
[07:45] <_moss> how do i allow my windows network to access files on my linux server
[07:45] <_moss> via samba?
[07:45] <windowsrefund> anyone know where that ubuntu search engine is for firefox is?
[07:45] <windowsrefund> I'd like to add it now that I'm running ff 1.5
[07:45] <_moss> i have /home/work that i want to share
[07:45] <theCore> sunsun, what are you trying to do ?
[07:46] <derek[] > Please can someone tell me about the option "Configure the Logical Volume Manager" during partitioning in the installation process??
[07:46] <fletch33> jenda, thanks that did it i really appreciate your help
[07:46] <funburn_> windowsrefund: are you looking for the google toolbar?
[07:46] <windowsrefund> funburn_, I don't think so
[07:46] <funburn_> or beagle, the filesystem/mail/web search
[07:46] <Slant_Laptop> How do I disable the GNOME startup sound?
[07:46] <fletch33> jenda,  firefox works under default again and all my stuffis there
[07:46] <jenda> fletch33: It's the least I could do :)
[07:47] <NoUse> Slant_Laptop the sounds config app
[07:47] <Enyo> hey NoUse if you liked the other one you'll -love- this one
 I would like to say that im on windows not on redhat...reason i said i was in redH. cause I thought everyone that was leet was on linux or unix so to fit in I had to lie...sorry..
[07:47] <oskude> Slant_Laptop, System>Preferences>Sound
[07:47] <derek[] > help someone
[07:47] <Slant_Laptop> osfameron, I have it disabled there and the sound still plays. Give it a try.
[07:47] <theCore> theCore, are you trying to install ffmpeg2theora ?
[07:48] <Slant_Laptop> NoUse, where is the sound config app?
[07:48] <NoUse> Slant_Laptop system -> prefs
[07:48] <oskude> derek[] , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_volume_management
[07:48] <Enyo> uuu join/#unix (Hes^GoT^LiNuX!root@vw-14185.kems.net)..
 I Have Linux Perl Can i Download Gnome??
[07:48] <oskude> derek[] , and google
[07:48] <Enyo> Logs in as root and just meshes all these things he's heard together lol
[07:48] <derek[] > been googling already
[07:48] <Slant_Laptop> NoUse, when I disable it there the sound still plays.
[07:49] <NoUse> Slant_Laptop then I'm out of idaes
[07:49] <oskude> derek[] , then try asking conrete questions
[07:49] <bungle__> hi all
[07:49] <derek[] > it was iron
[07:49] <derek[] > :|
[07:49] <derek[] > thx for the link
[07:50] <oskude> derek[] , im not meaning "beton"...
[07:50] <bungle__> help guys my hash key will not on my laptop.  Is there any way I can creat a keyboard shortcut to insert the hash symbol
[07:50] <mark__> hey
[07:50] <bungle__> or is there and on screen keyboard program for gnome?
[07:50] <mark__> does anyone know how to install .tar.gz packages????
[07:50] <Slant_Laptop> NoUse, thanks regardless.
[07:50] <Enyo> bungle_, system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[07:51] <Enyo> bungle_, are you logged in twice or something?
[07:51] <mark__> Hello
[07:51] <oskude> bungle_, "apt-cache show xvkbd"
[07:51] <mark__> Can someone help me
[07:51] <Enyo> mark__, dude use "man tar"
[07:51] <mark__> ok
[07:51] <Enyo> mark__, the command for .tar.gz packages is usually, tar zxvf package.tar.gz
[07:52] <Enyo> then you go into that directory and sudo ./configure && make && make install
[07:52] <Enyo> why are you compiling anything anyway, why not just use apt-get?
[07:52] <Agrajag> Enyo: more like ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:52] <DennisLaumen>  /join #ubuntu-nl
[07:52] <Enyo> Agrajag, i know, i noticed that lol
[07:53] <Enyo> Agrajag, i always assume sudo works for the whole line of commands, that way it would be easier, but yea, to install you gotta be root
[07:53] <NaillL> hi everyone, I know this question you`ve heard a lot of time, but how to make my ubuntu play MP3?
[07:53] <oskude> Agrajag, i would ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall :)
[07:53] <_moss> how do i use samba
[07:53] <_moss> i shared /home/music
[07:53] <_moss> but it keeps asking me for login details
[07:53] <_moss> in windows xp
[07:53] <Enyo> _moss, ...
[07:53] <_moss> but nothing works
[07:53] <Enyo> _moss, supply your linux user and pass.
[07:53] <eobanb> NaillL, read the faq
[07:53] <_moss> i did
[07:53] <Enyo> _moss, or remove authentication all together.
[07:53] <_moss> how?
[07:53] <Enyo> _moss, i recommend using webmin to configure instead of manually editing the smb.conf
[07:53] <bungle__> thanks oskude
[07:53] <Enyo> it's easier for noobs
[07:54] <Agrajag> _moss: if you want no pasword try setting your smb.conf up like mine: http://student.ucr.edu/~abneyw01/smb.conf
[07:54] <_moss> i dont have webmin
[07:54] <_moss> ok
[07:54] <Enyo> _moss, sudo apt-get install webmin
[07:54] <Enyo> now you have webmin lol
[07:54] <oskude> bungle_, wait
[07:54] <_moss> ok
[07:54] <_moss> thankyou
[07:54] <mark__> well i downloaded this file from a site
[07:54] <eobanb> what file
[07:54] <Enyo> mark__, what file? You sure it's not in the repository already?
[07:54] <Agrajag> mark__: what file? what site? what are you trying to install?
[07:54] <_moss> heh, downloading and installing webmin
[07:54] <oskude> bungle_, theres allso "Character Palette" in right mouse button on gnome panel and "add to panel..."
[07:55] <mark__> Hey Enyo
[07:55] <Enyo> mark__, ?
[07:55] <_moss> how do i install samba module
[07:55] <_moss> for webmin
[07:55] <Enyo> _moss, it doesnt come by default?
[07:55] <chubak> Can someone  plz tell me what a typical ubuntu set up has for kernel and initrd in the /boot/grub/grub.conf file?
[07:55] <_moss> not sure
[07:55] <_moss> ill try
[07:55] <mark__> so i would type ./configure (what goes in place of the &&???) make  make install
[07:56] <_moss> how do i access webmin
[07:56] <Enyo> _moss, webmin-samba - samba control module for webmin
[07:56] <Agrajag> mark__: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:56] <Enyo> _moss, sudo apt-get install webmin-samba
[07:56] <_moss> ok
[07:56] <Enyo> _moss, sudo /etc/init.d/webmin start
[07:56] <Enyo> then type in a browser, https://localhost:10000
[07:56] <Agrajag> mark__: what is it you are trying to install though?
[07:56] <_moss> thankyou
[07:56] <Enyo> the webmin service runs on port 1000 on an encrypted connection
[07:56] <mark__> what do you mean
[07:56] <oskude> chubak, dont have any grub.conf... O.o
[07:57] <Enyo> mark__, what else can Agrajag possibly mean? WHAT are you trying to install?
[07:57] <Agrajag> mark__: the program you are trying to install, what is it?
[07:57] <mark__> a audio driver
[07:57] <eobanb> from a tgz?
[07:57] <refnumzx> i need to be able to create users on a linux box from a csv file formated like this username,group.password i would also like this script to add an smb account using smbpasswd, a guy tried to help this morning with a cpp file, but it will not compile and i am not a programmer, can someone help with a shell script? i tried  myself but i got very bad results.
[07:57] <Enyo> you have no audio or something?
[07:57] <xc_legend> hi all
[07:57] <mark__> yeah
[07:57] <xc_legend> I am having some problems with plugins
[07:58] <oskude> chubak, or do you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:58] <Enyo> refnumzx, you can easily use awk to do this i think, you can use awk to take values down from columns and print them out to adduser
[07:58] <mark__> i have the file extracted but don't know how to install the driver
[07:58] <Enyo> mark__, your audio doesnt work?
[07:58] <mark__> no
[07:58] <xc_legend> I am trying to burn mp3s to cd I have tried Serpentine,k3b and gnome baker
[07:58] <Enyo> how do you know?
[07:58] <Enyo> have you tried to play anything mark__ ?
[07:58] <refnumzx> yeah i tried awk but my order was wrong and it was very bad.
[07:58] <mark__> i tried playing a audio cd
[07:58] <chubak> oskude,  ubuntu grub does not have a conf file?
[07:59] <xc_legend> All say mp3 is unsupported file
[07:59] <eobanb> you know what the ubuntu install script needs? a short piece of text that displays on startup that explains what package management is and how it works and specifically says 'forget everything you think you know about downloading and installing programs'
[07:59] <Enyo> mark__, maybe the audio output wasnt properly connected to the cd rom
[07:59] <mark__> maybe
[07:59] <eobanb> xc_legend, read the faq
[07:59] <xc_legend> gnomebaker said i need a plugin for it to work
[07:59] <Enyo> mark__, why not just mpg123 file.mp3 to test
[07:59] <bungle__> thanks oskude #
[07:59] <kinkoblast> how do I mount a windows share in ubuntu?
[07:59] <bungle__> working a treat
[07:59] <gparent> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:59] <gparent> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:59] <gparent> is only available from another source
[07:59] <oskude> chubak, dunno, mine uses menu.lst (AFAIK)
[07:59] <gparent> Trying to install Java
[07:59] <_moss> how do i disable
[07:59] <mark__> what do you mean
[07:59] <gparent> using sudo apt-get
[07:59] <_moss> authentication
[07:59] <bungle__> will be a good hack till I can fix the keyboard oskude
[07:59] <_moss> in webmin
[08:00] <oskude> bungle_, yup
[08:00] <Enyo> mark__, get an mp3 file on your computer, and play it
[08:00] <Enyo> not through the cdrom
[08:00] <oskude> gparent, you have to activate "multiverse" reposity
[08:00] <oskude> !repos
[08:00] <ubotu> well, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:00] <chubak> oskude, whats the kernel and initrd argument under that file?
[08:00] <Enyo> !apt
[08:00] <ubotu> I heard apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[08:00] <Enyo> that's what you guys need.
[08:00] <gparent> I think it is.
[08:00] <gparent> Hol don
[08:01] <dbernar1> hi Do you know a program for playing .ogg files on win32?
[08:01] <gparent> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[08:01] <oskude> chubak, kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[08:01] <gparent> That^
[08:01] <zAo^> win32????
[08:01] <gparent> ?
[08:01] <zAo^> o m g
[08:01] <Enyo> dbernar1, winamp
[08:01] <oskude> chubak, initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-k7
[08:01] <mark__> thats strange
[08:01] <xc_legend> where is the faq
[08:01] <eobanb> win32...??
[08:01] <Enyo> dbernar1, don't ask windows affiliated questions here..
[08:01] <chubak> thx oskude
[08:01] <dbernar1> zAo^: do you have a brain?
[08:01] <dbernar1> Enyo: Ill ask what I want.
[08:01] <mark__> the audio works when plugged into cd drive
[08:01] <Enyo> lol, then he leaves.
[08:01] <Enyo> moron
[08:01] <eobanb> ^____^
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> indeed
[08:02] <zAo^> dbernar1, jup, why? better ask you: ask *nix questions in a win32-channel; luck
[08:02] <mark__> but when plugged into back it doesn't wok at all
[08:02] <neomatrix> HI i am newbie to linux. How can i get ubuntu? someone told me its freely shipped. Is this true? help me
[08:02] <Enyo> mark__, forget the cdrom, try to play an actual .mp3 file
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> i should go on #windows to ask where the xmms skins are located in ubuntu
[08:02] <eobanb> yeah, it is, but you're better off downloading it if you have broadband.
[08:02] <mark__> k
[08:02] <_moss> how do i disable authentication for samba thru webmin
[08:02] <_moss> ?
[08:02] <oskude> gparent, you need something like "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe main restricted multiverse"
[08:02] <GigaClon> neomatrix, read the website
[08:02] <david_> neomatrix: Download at www.ubuntu.org
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> neomatrix,  yes it is
[08:02] <Enyo> neomatrix, go to ubuntu.com and go to download, you can download the images and burn them yourself or go to the ShipIt section for shipping information
[08:02] <eobanb> neomatrix, it can take a couple of months sometimes for canonical to get CDs to you
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> ubuntu shipit
[08:02] <gparent> Yeah, but where do I add that^
[08:02] <xc_legend> i am having trouble with ubuntu
[08:02] <Agrajag> hell, you're better off downloading it if you have dialup, you'd still get it faster ;)
[08:02] <kinkoblast> debnarel: This is an Ubuntu channel, but 'cause i'm nice, try VLC
[08:02] <neomatrix> thx eobanb
[08:02] <Enyo> B_166-ER-X, whenever i see Shipit, it looks like Dipshit for a second..
[08:03] <gparent> I tried editing my source.list, but it wouldnt let me
[08:03] <HiddenFly> Is there a way to install a software so that I could easily remove it and all of its dependencies that become unneeded if I dont like it?
[08:03] <mark__> what porgram should i use to listen to Mp3
[08:03] <neomatrix> also can i remaster ubuntu like knoppix?
[08:03] <Enyo> gparent, you need to be root, thats why, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <xc_legend> that is why i came here i have recieved help in the past
[08:03] <HiddenFly> with apt-get
[08:03] <eobanb> 'remaster'?
[08:03] <B_166-ER-X> Enyo,  uh... well it worded 2 times for me
[08:03] <gparent> Oh.
[08:03] <oskude> gparent, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:03] <gparent> Thanks man =
[08:03] <Agrajag> ubotu: tell mark__ about mp3
[08:03] <gparent> men =)
[08:03] <B_166-ER-X> had them in less then a month
[08:03] <tomz> !Mp3
[08:03] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[08:03] <sambagirl> when you type in TOP what is this showing me? It's very whatever it is :)
[08:03] <neomatrix> as in create a new distro using ubuntu
[08:03] <neomatrix> we can do that using knoppix
[08:03] <xeo> Hello everyone, i am haveing diffucilties using my PCMCIA usb2.0 card with and external HD, the HD works on the local usb interface but not on the addon card. You can see the partitions on the external drive but im not able to mount it! any ideas?
[08:03] <gparent> I thought it had to be with root, but didnt know how to open a file as root. Adding it
[08:03] <rambo3> sudo gedit is easyer
[08:04] <GigaClon> neomatrix, there is a live CD so I would guess yeah
[08:04] <Enyo> gparent, if you want root, sudo /bin/sh or something and then type passwd and set password
[08:04] <Enyo> though i recommend using sudo
[08:04] <sambagirl> what does sudo mean?
[08:04] <Enyo> sambagirl, it means switch user and do
[08:04] <GigaClon> superuser do
[08:04] <Enyo> at least to me.
[08:04] <eobanb> some people say it means super-user do
[08:04] <matrix-user-c> u get root priveliges
[08:04] <sambagirl> ok
[08:04] <neomatrix> is the iso for live cd available on internet?
[08:04] <bungle__> xvkbd working great :-)
[08:04] <sambagirl> thank you
[08:04] <Enyo> all you need to know is that it works
[08:04] <sambagirl> when you type in TOP what is this showing me? It's very whatever it is :)
[08:04] <Enyo> sambagirl, first off, linux is case sensitive
[08:04] <david_> Any special ideas how to "harden" Ubuntu for use as a web server?  Already running Bastille . . . anything else?
[08:04] <eobanb> neomatrix: yes
[08:04] <rambo3> man top
[08:04] <oskude> sambagirl, but "su" means supstitute user (or similar...)
[08:05] <Enyo> sambagirl, TOP and top are different, top is displaying processes that are running onthe computer, by who, and how much they're taking
[08:05] <bungle__> type man top into terminal sambagirl
[08:05] <Enyo> sambagirl, in terms of resources.
[08:05] <neomatrix> cool...thx ppl...i shall start downloading now
[08:05] <Enyo> neomatrix, :)_
[08:05] <mark__> hey i got a problem
 mark@linuxlab5:~ $ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Package gstreamer0.8-plugins is not available, but is referred to by another package.
 This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
 is only available from another source
 E: Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate
[08:05] <Enyo> mark__, STOP
 typed it in and came up with this answer
[08:05] <eobanb> please dont flood....
[08:05] <seife> guys
[08:05] <Enyo> mark__, use pastebin.com
[08:05] <oskude> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:05] <sambagirl> ok
[08:05] <mark__> ok
[08:05] <sambagirl> top and TOP
[08:05] <mark__> im sorry
[08:06] <Enyo> sambagirl, no, just top
[08:06] <sambagirl> i will look at both these
[08:06] <dabaR_> mark__: add multiverse to your repositories. http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html will show you how.
[08:06] <Enyo> chris@scheduler:~$ TOP
[08:06] <Enyo> bash: TOP: command not found
[08:06] <neomatrix> Hey...i wanted to know if i can be of any help to this oss community. if yes how?
[08:06] <Enyo> TOP doesn't exist, top does.
[08:06] <seife> help me to get my device on the wlan network, it sends packet but not recive, dunno why, i installed wifi radar and it doesnt get any nearly wlan network, HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLEASE
[08:06] <sambagirl> TOP not do anything i see.ok
[08:06] <sambagirl> top
[08:06] <Enyo> neomatrix, you mean oss as in the deprecated sound server?
[08:06] <xychix> seife: i assume you've got an accespoint ?
[08:06] <chubak> top less
[08:06] <gparent> Thanks for the awesome help guys
[08:06] <gparent> Installing Java
[08:06] <gparent> =)
[08:06] <xeo> well, guess il just use the forum instead...
[08:06] <sambagirl> unix almost as good operating system as AmigaOS
[08:06] <david_> Security ideas?
[08:06] <oskude> neomatrix, help newbies :)
[08:06] <neomatrix> well i am talking about open source software
[08:06] <Enyo> chubak, ahha, top | less
[08:07] <Enyo> chubak, but i get what you're saying lol
[08:07] <sambagirl> you have things that are like CLI i see.
[08:07] <eobanb> lol
[08:07] <_moss> grrr
[08:07] <xc_legend> can anyone help me with gnomebaker ....getting it to work
[08:07] <_moss> still wont let me access it
[08:07] <gparent> gnomebaker
[08:07] <gparent> lol
[08:07] <xc_legend> properly
[08:07] <Enyo> sambagirl, are you honestly a girl?
[08:07] <gparent> Say that in WoW :P
[08:07] <neomatrix> i myself am quite a newbie oskude :)
[08:07] <dabaR_> neomatrix: check this out: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[08:07] <sambagirl> i'm honestly a woman but sambawoman looks stupid
[08:07] <dabaR_> nice.
[08:07] <eobanb> heh.
[08:07] <oskude> lol
[08:07] <sambagirl> understand?
[08:08] <Hercule-AfK> Hi
[08:08] <gparent> I realised yesterday how convenient free software was.
[08:08] <gparent> I didnt even realise I wasnt paying for what I DLed
[08:08] <Enyo> sambagirl, women use linux?
[08:08] <eobanb> o....k...
[08:08] <DESiBELi> what is the easiest way to restore grub with ubuntu live 5.10 after windows intall removes it..?
[08:08] <Enyo> sambagirl, where have i been.
[08:08] <mark__> so how does that help me get the codecs
[08:08] <bungle__> TOP
[08:08] <gparent> Even if I usually dont *Shame*
[08:08] <windowsrefund> free software has nothing to do with price
[08:08] <sambagirl> women wrote linux
[08:09] <frinkillo> has anyone problems with latest xorg-xserver-core in dapper? Since the latest update I'm getting "Segmentation Fault" everytime I try to launch the X server :?
[08:09] <Enyo> sambagirl, they did? show me proof
[08:09] <sambagirl> we use guys for fronts
[08:09] <eobanb> ^___^
[08:09] <gparent> How does Free hasn't got to do with price?
[08:09] <sambagirl> well behind every man stand the WOMAN :D
[08:09] <Enyo> sambagirl, haha, another female activist :)
[08:09] <windowsrefund> gparent, see fsf.org
[08:09] <sambagirl> kicking him in the butt.
[08:09] <oskude> frinkillo, make bug report (or look if one allready exists) and wait for update....
[08:09] <sambagirl> llb chao
[08:09] <jc-denton> hehe sambagirl
[08:09] <neomatrix> hey dabaR ...thx for the info..i shall go thru it in detail...i mentioned oss coz i am attending this year FOSS.IN
[08:09] <sambagirl> bbl chao
[08:09] <bungle__> yeah sambagirl Richard Stallman is a woman in drag pmsl
[08:09] <Enyo> lol
[08:09] <neomatrix> foss.in 2005 in bangalore
[08:10] <mark__> tried to install codecs
[08:10] <eobanb> can someone help me out with this ---> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=536118&posted=1#post536118
[08:10] <mwe> Stallman has some fine ideas
[08:10] <mark__> but couldn't find packages
[08:10] <Hercule-AfK> Hello,I need help pls , Do I have to do something to install Ubuntu on my Computer (intel p4, atm using Windows) because i have an error when i lunch instalation
[08:10] <eobanb> mark__ you need to add the multiverse repository
[08:10] <benkong2> i can't get 3ddesk to work in breezy any docs around google no help sofar
[08:10] <kvantti> hey guys, i think this is worth looking to with the rear speakers problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=5.1
[08:10] <gparent> I dunno
[08:10] <dabaR_> mark__: you will ned to enable the multiverse repository, i gave you a link to a walkthrough above.
[08:10] <gparent> I DLed the package for 3d desktop
[08:10] <Enyo> Stallman is a communist..Note the fact that stallman and stalin are VERY similar
[08:10] <gparent> But cant find out how to use it
[08:11] <gparent> Shame on me
[08:11] <mark__> what is the multiverse?
[08:11] <frinkillo> oskude: I've been looking for a bug report and waiting for an update but nothing (this if from 4-5 days ago), and filling a bug report myself... I don't know if this issue is happening only to me, so I was asking here about it :)
[08:11] <eobanb> mark__ READ THE FAQ
[08:11] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell mark__ about components
[08:11] <dabaR_> !shout
[08:11] <oskude> frinkillo, roger
[08:11] <ubotu> from memory, shout is WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[08:11] <eobanb> !mp3
[08:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[08:11] <Enyo> eobanb, lol, tell mark to RTF ahah
[08:11] <damattler91> hi
[08:11] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell Enyo about coc
[08:11] <kvantti> !dts
[08:11] <ubotu> kvantti: Syntax error in line 1
[08:11] <theD3viL> eobanb, hm..wird.
[08:11] <Enyo> what's coc?
[08:11] <dabaR_> ok, anyone whoe sees ubotu as a pm on his screen, please read it.
[08:11] <kvantti>  !5.1
[08:11] <ubotu> kvantti: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:11] <damattler91> did someone speake german???
[08:11] <dabaR_> !de
[08:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:12] <neomatrix> hey ppl... can i contribute to the community through documentation until i get strong with programming?how?
[08:12] <theD3viL> eobanb, you can always download offical driver
[08:12] <rambo3> linux comunity has realy changed , there was only one answer 4 years ago : rtfm
[08:12] <Enyo> rambo3, i still get that all the time
[08:12] <damattler91> hallo?????????????????
[08:12] <eobanb> theD3viL, if you read the most you'd see i tried that...
[08:12] <mark__> how do i install this multiverse respitorie
[08:12] <eobanb> the post*
[08:12] <dabaR_> damattler91: read the above text in german.
[08:12] <bungle__> thats true rambo3 lot more newbie friendly nowadays
[08:12] <gparent> rambo3, it changed for the best.
[08:12] <mwe> well it wont hurt the read the documentation
[08:12] <oskude> neomatrix, contrib to docus is allways welcome, just look the webpages of your favorite program...
[08:12] <dabaR_> mark__: either read http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html, or a private messaeg from ubotu.
[08:12] <gparent> User/newbie-friendliness what was put me back from Trying linux at first.
[08:12] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell mark__ about repos
[08:12] <bungle__> rtfm or google it and go away
[08:12] <neomatrix> fav program? as in wat?
[08:13] <Enyo> mwe, a lot of people can't understand the documentation, i know for me, i just want stuff to work, i dont need to learn how to program while im at it
[08:13] <gparent> Command-line ain't my thing, but I accept setting up some things.
[08:13] <theD3viL> eobanb, you installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings ... and then?
[08:13] <mwe> Enyo: I'm not saying you should never ask for help
[08:13] <bungle__> I use GNIU Linix cos of the philosophy plus it rocks too
[08:13] <eobanb> and then openGL doesnt work, theD3viL
[08:13] <dabaR_> Enyo: there is a feature oriented manual, and a procedural document. from your sentence I understand you want the latter. check out my web page above to se what I mean. the one I sent to mark.
[08:14] <theD3viL> eobanb, did graphich card works on eny other distro?
[08:14] <mwe> Enyo: but questions you asked because you're too lazy to try to do some research yourself is a waste of others time
[08:14] <eobanb> i havent tried, theD3viL
[08:14] <erUSUL> Enyo, use apple then... ;)
[08:14] <derek[] > Hi
[08:15] <neomatrix> can i documentation on stuff related to kernel/real time linux?
[08:15] <oskude> mwe, second that :)
[08:15] <theD3viL> eobanb, in windows? What if geforce chipset is broken?
[08:15] <neomatrix> i am into that domain as a prof
[08:15] <xeo> anyone have any experience using pcmcia usb2.0 cards in ubuntu?
[08:15] <Enyo> lol im not arguing, im simply stating
[08:15] <eobanb> geforce?? what??? it'
[08:15] <eobanb> it's not a geforce
[08:15] <eobanb> it's a TNT2
[08:15] <Enyo> erUSUL, thats a good idea :) ahha
[08:15] <theD3viL> eobanb, whatever..
[08:15] <eobanb> and it's not broken, it works fine, i just cant get 3D acceleration to work
[08:15] <gparent> Whats the command to install deb packages^
[08:15] <gparent> deb filename?
[08:15] <dabaR_> neomatrix: in that case, you want to read the source code, imo.
[08:15] <oskude> gparent, dpkg -i <filename>
[08:15] <theD3viL> eobanb, dont know then..sry
[08:15] <gparent> thx
[08:15] <gparent> brb
[08:15] <bungle__> sudo dpkg -i filename
[08:16] <derek[] > If I'm installing linux on the second partition , to have dual boot (with win on the first [primary]  partition), do I need to set the second partition (the one for linux) as bootable during installation?
[08:16] <gparent> yeah
[08:16] <dabaR_> neomatrix: or you maybe want to know the history?
[08:16] <oskude> derek[] , nope
[08:16] <derek[] > ok
[08:16] <NaillL> derek[] : no...
[08:16] <oskude> derek[] , leave bootable for windows partition
[08:16] <neomatrix> not exactly i want to know more about what rtlinux is all about
[08:16] <derek[] > ok thanks
[08:16] <dabaR_> derek[] : just leave the same one bootable, and choose to insatll grub to the mbr, when asked main boot record.
[08:16] <erUSUL> derek[] , no
[08:16] <neomatrix> well i knw abt that...
[08:16] <derek[] > on the mbr?
[08:16] <derek[] > ok
[08:17] <Pit> The headers package for 2.6.12-10 seems to be missing some files that were present in earlier headers packages and are required for building ATi's drivers, or am I wrong?
[08:17] <erUSUL> neomatrix, i do not think this is the channel for such questions...
[08:17] <dabaR_> grub will add entries in its menu for windows, and for ubuntu.
[08:17] <eobanb> ubuntu is not a real time OS..
[08:17] <derek[] > and how can I create a new small partition for swap  during installation?
[08:17] <dabaR_> erUSUL: do you know which channel is good?
[08:17] <neomatrix> i would like to gain gud amount of knowledge by contributing...sorry if my q's seemes too basic
[08:18] <seamen2> use "expert" boot
[08:18] <dabaR_> neomatrix: just ask.
[08:18] <oskude> derek[] , do you have still unpartitioned space ? or you could delete the linux partition and then make the two partitions from that free space
[08:18] <seamen2> during installation
[08:18] <dabaR_> derek[] : breezy has a resize partitions option built in. I have never used it however.
[08:18] <derek[] > oskude: no I don't have any unpartitioned space
[08:18] <neomatrix> not exactly on real time but about kernel, to be precise... customising the kernel based on requirements
[08:18] <derek[] > (I'm using Hoary)
[08:19] <oskude> derek[] , OMG :)
[08:19] <derek[] > :)
[08:19] <erUSUL> dabaR_, no but this is a channel for ubuntu help no for discusion of the relative merits od rtai vs rtlinux or adeos or whatever you can find information in google
[08:19] <derek[] > old CD
[08:19] <eobanb> what erUSUL
[08:19] <eobanb> said
[08:19] <bungle__> is it possible to have X running on different tty's?
[08:19] <oskude> derek[] , you know hoary will not be supported for long (or even now ?)
[08:19] <derek[] > supported?
[08:19] <elio_> hy all
[08:19] <dabaR_> bungle__: well, yes, try the Apps>System Tools>New login.
[08:19] <oskude> derek[] , updates, security fixes...
[08:20] <derek[] > i see
[08:20] <dabaR_> bungle__: alt+ctrl+f7 and f8 will then be X
[08:20] <oskude> derek[] , breezy is the current version
[08:20] <derek[] > well may be i'll upgrade after installation
[08:20] <eobanb> and also any questions about hoary here generally get the response 'dist-upgrade to breezy'
[08:20] <Enyo> whens dapper coming out?
[08:20] <derek[] > the cd writer isn't working
[08:20] <Enyo> sometime in april?
[08:20] <dabaR_> oskude: dont spread such stupid rumors.
[08:20] <derek[] > and well, the bandwidth limit :(
[08:20] <elio_> how can i find out my superuser password, ubuntu is installed yesterday, but i can't change the root pw
[08:20] <oskude> dabaR_ ?
[08:20] <dabaR_> oskude: hoary is supported for a year and a half now, with security fixes.
[08:20] <mark__> thanks for your help
[08:21] <derek[] > oskude: so to have a small swap partition, i should first delete the second partition that i've set aside for linux, then create new ones from it?
[08:21] <oskude> dabaR, and that less than for breezy...
[08:21] <Enyo> elio_, sudo bash && passwd
[08:21] <Enyo> elio_, then set your password
[08:21] <NoUse> !tell elio_ about root
[08:21] <dabaR_> 2 years for a release. and then milestone releases like dapper will be supported for 45 years.
[08:21] <oskude> derek[] , i would do so, yes
[08:21] <derek[] > will all this work with normal boot?
[08:21] <elio_> ok, trying....
[08:21] <Enyo> !tell Enyo about root
[08:21] <derek[] > ok
[08:21] <str1k3r> how change root passwd.... "sudo passwd" dont help!!!
[08:21] <derek[] > will i have to care about the cylinder numbers etc.?
[08:21] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell str1k3r about root
[08:22] <Enyo> str1k3r, sudo bash && passwd
[08:22] <dabaR_> str1k3r: ubotu sent you a pm with a URL.
[08:22] <oskude> derek[] , "nope"
[08:22] <XiCillin> str1k3r: sudo /bin/bash
[08:22] <derek[] > ok
[08:22] <Agrajag> Enyo: uh, no
[08:22] <XiCillin> then passwd
[08:22] <neomatrix> hey..thanks to all for helpin me out..shall comeback with more related queries...time for me to go now..bye...
[08:22] <Agrajag> Enyo: that would run passwd AFTER the root shell ended
[08:22] <oskude> derek[] , if you have grub installed in mbr or floppy, the old cylinder limit is no problem...
[08:22] <Enyo> Agrajag, lol k w.e you kno what i mean
[08:22] <mwe> or sudo -i, then passwd or sudo passwd root
[08:22] <derek[] > ok
[08:22] <dabaR_> ok, you guys just make sure you refer people to the rootsudo wiki page, instead of giving them commands with no explanation.
[08:22] <Agrajag> Enyo: yes, but the person you're trying to help doesn't.
[08:23] <Enyo> sudo /bin/bash runs bash as root, then you type passwd to set a password for root
[08:23] <bungle__> thats works fine dabaR cheers
[08:23] <str1k3r> tnx
[08:23] <theD3viL> If i make new partition /home .. ubuntu will detect it automaticly ? ... can i do this with gparted ?
[08:23] <dabaR_> bungle__: good, I wonder what it was I said, Ill go scroll up.
[08:23] <elio_> i only must install a lib in /.../local/share and so
[08:24] <theD3viL> eobanb, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[08:24] <dabaR_> elio_: is that a question?
[08:24] <Enyo> ProtectYaNeck, Wu Tang Clan!
[08:24] <bungle__> new user login to have two versions of X running
[08:24] <levander> Anybody know why when I try to install gnomebaker, I get this message? "The following packages cannot be authenticated!" And then it lists gnomebaker and a dependency mpg321.
[08:24] <ardchoille> ok, something keeps adding 192.168.0.1 to my /etc/resolv.conf file and that keeps Evolution from sending/receiving email. Does anyone know which app writes that to /etc/resolv.conf? I realise I can chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf, but I don't fully understand the consequences of such a mod.
[08:24] <oskude> theD3viL, if you say in fstab that the new partition should be mounted as /home, yes
[08:24] <Ofe> Could someone give me the link concerning update from Hoary (5.04) to Breezy (5.10) with breezy installation CD? It was in the topic a while ago.
[08:24] <dabaR_> ardchoille: do you use a router device?
[08:24] <elio_> no, it isn't ;-), i want to install doityourself once
[08:24] <ardchoille> dabaR_: yes
[08:25] <dabaR_> Ofe: ubotu knows about a page. he will tell you shortly.
[08:25] <oskude> levander, sounds that you have "wrong" repos...
[08:25] <Enyo> levander, it cant get the pgp key, just sudo apt-get install mpg321 gnomebaker
[08:25] <oskude> !repos
[08:25] <Enyo> and see if that works
[08:25] <dabaR_> ardchoille: that is what adds the router as your DNS server. it is proper.
[08:25] <ubotu> well, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:25] <Pit> Is anyone aware of the problem with the linux-headers package for 2.6.12-10?
[08:25] <theD3viL> Ofe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:25] <Enyo> Pit, problem?
[08:25] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell Ofe about breezy
[08:25] <ardchoille> dabaR_: but my router is not my DNS server
[08:26] <Pit> Enyo: it's missing files required to build modules
[08:26] <levander> oskude: I'm using hoary just like I have been since hoary came out.
[08:26] <dabaR_> sure is to your computer if the computer is connected to it.
[08:26] <elio_> wonderful it works ;-) thanks for your help
[08:26] <Pit> which were present in the previous kernel headers package
[08:26] <Enyo> Pit, how do you know this?
[08:26] <Enyo> Oh
[08:26] <Ofe> thank you theD3viL , dabaR. :)
[08:26] <theD3viL> oskude, what if i made it in install progress
[08:26] <dabaR_> ardchoille: is this on a desktop?
[08:26] <ardchoille> dabaR_: yes
[08:26] <levander> oskude: I just checked, they're just the archives from ubuntu.com
[08:26] <eobanb> !breezy
[08:26] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:26] <oskude> theD3viL, then it will be added to fstab
[08:26] <dabaR_> ardchoille: who is your email provider, and what is the error you get when using evolution?
[08:26] <gparent> !dpkg
[08:27] <Enyo> Plazma, lol, have you heard of people comparing Dreamcast to Xbox 360
[08:27] <Enyo> not to go too off topic, its just theres a page on it : http://xcore.ytmnd.com i think
[08:27] <oskude> levander, in breezy gnomebaker is in "universe"
[08:27] <ardchoille> dabaR_: gmail and evolution cannot connect until I take that line out of /etc/resolv.conf
[08:27] <Plazma> Enyo, no i haven't,
[08:27] <dabaR_> ardchoille: really, that is what needs to be done every time you boot?
[08:27] <skulrid> hi ppl
[08:27] <Enyo> Plazma, wait that isnt it, hold on ill find it
[08:28] <Plazma> Enyo, ok
[08:28] <ardchoille> dabaR_: there are two lines in that file, one is 192.168.0.1, which is not my DNS server, and the other is the actual DNS server.
[08:28] <Plazma> Enyo, well i called a local game shop.. 29.95 with everything including 1 controler, no games.. figure its a good deal plus the dreamcast was and still is a great system
[08:28] <seife> someone help me to set up my wireless network PLEASEEEEEEEe
[08:28] <elio_> bye, thanks for your great service
[08:28] <seife> im gonna EXPLODE
[08:28] <ardchoille> if I remove the 192.x.x.x line and leave the actual DNS server line, everything works fine
[08:28] <Enyo> Plazma, you know it had PS3 graphics and all that
[08:28] <Plazma> seife, what do you need to know?
[08:29] <dabaR_> ardchoille: but your computer connects directly to the router, right? Tell me the exact steps how you fix it, do you boot, it does not work, then you remove the line, and then it works afterwards?
[08:29] <Enyo> and it had some good innovative stuff
[08:29] <ardchoille> dabaR_: yes, I ned to do this after every boot.
[08:29] <Enyo> Plazma, first system with online capabilities
[08:29] <Plazma> Enyo, i knew it was 128 bit and had many things that other companys took and modified
[08:29] <mwe> seife: PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ask a more specific question
[08:29] <Mabus06> can somoene help me to get a program to run with a command prompt, in a shortcut?
[08:29] <ardchoille> dabaR_: exactly
[08:29] <Plazma> Enyo, i just dont play consoles much is all is the thing, but i want a dreamcast for some odd reason
[08:29] <seife> its not about an specific question, what about if im a newbie, ive tried all stuff and nothing works
[08:29] <Enyo> Plazma, http://xcast.ytmnd.com/
[08:29] <dabaR_> so as soon as you boot, you can do that, and it works after?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> Mabus06,  to get program to run in command prompt is type the name of program for example to get lynx to run you type lynx
[08:29] <coz> hello all
[08:29] <ardchoille> dabaR_: I am going to write a script that does it automatically after each boot, but I'd still like to know which app si writing that to the file.
[08:30] <coz>  how do I install a tar.gz package?
[08:30] <ardchoille> dabaR_: yes
[08:30] <NoUse> coz what app are you trying to installl?
[08:30] <Paradosso> does anyone know a color palette for ubuntu?
[08:30] <Mabus06> not what I meant gnomefreak
[08:30] <coz> Gear Pro
[08:30] <dabaR_> ardchoille: well, then if you are going to add the script, and you know how, then I can not be of help. I would not know the answer to that^.
[08:30] <seife> i just need HELP
[08:31] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, in a shortcut, with a command that modifies how it starts
[08:31] <NoUse> coz then it's probably not source, find the INSTALL or README file and read it carefully
[08:31] <ardchoille> dabaR_: ok. I just know there is an app writing to that file, but I would like to know which app
[08:31] <coz> Ok  thanks
[08:31] <dabaR_> Mabus06: tell exact command, exactly waht you want, and you will surely get an answer.
[08:31] <mwe> coz: you untar it with tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[08:31] <dabaR_> ardchoille: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like? did you check that?
[08:31] <levander> This demo for nero is supposed to last 30 days correct?
[08:31] <Mabus06> I want to run "doom3 +set s_driver oss"
[08:32] <XiCillin> anybody tried automatix?
[08:32] <gparent> Thanks for your help guys.
[08:32] <Plazma> Enyo, thanks for that, thats really kinda cool
[08:32] <gparent> Got a lot of things setup.
[08:32] <Enyo> Plazma, what do you think about that
[08:32] <gparent> =)
[08:32] <Mabus06> I typed that in the shortcut for "command" and it does not work. The sound only works if I open it from a terminal manually.
[08:32] <Enyo> Plazma, crazy eh
[08:32] <dabaR_> Mabus06: and when you add a normal shortcut with that as the command, it does not work?
[08:32] <ardchoille> dabaR_: hmm.. lots of lines.. I don't understand them.
[08:32] <seife> see, ubuntu its not for wifi networks
[08:32] <seife> im gonna hit me
[08:32] <Plazma> who says ubuntu isnt for wifi networks
[08:32] <dabaR_> ardchoille: post to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:33] <Plazma> who dare says that
[08:33] <barongas> I want to copy the entire content of a drive to another, I've heard that it's better to mirror than to just cp, what command would I use to mirror it?
[08:33] <Enyo> barongas, you mean, like Raid?
[08:33] <Mabus06> seife did, Plazma
[08:33] <Enyo> barongas, whats wrong with just tarring the filesystem and copying it over?
[08:33] <Plazma> Enyo, do you think i should buy a dreamcast ^.^
[08:34] <dabaR_> barongas: if he knew what was wrong with it, he would not ask you.
[08:34] <Enyo> Plazma, for that cheap, why not, you can always get the games for free considering they're just on CDs
[08:34] <dabaR_> Enyo: ^
[08:34] <meck> why not just dd?
[08:34] <Plazma> Enyo, they are just on CD's?
[08:34] <ardchoille> dabaR_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5269
[08:34] <meck> no tarring, no mirroring
[08:34] <barongas> Enyo, they're both in the same computer, I just want to transfer all the data from one drive to the other, locally.
[08:34] <Enyo> mount the other driver.
[08:34] <dabaR_> barongas: ask meck
[08:34] <Enyo> then filesystem to mount point
[08:34] <Mabus06> does anyone know how to put "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shorcut?
[08:34] <meck> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[08:34] <Enyo> not driver, drive i meant
[08:34] <seife> Plazma, i need someone who tells me step by step to connect my device to a wlan network
[08:35] <seife> i cant do this alone, its so harder
[08:35] <meck> if both drives are the same capacity, etc
[08:35] <Enyo> Plazma, yeah didnt you see, they were criticized for not using DVD's, its too easy to pirate dreamcast games
[08:35] <barongas> meck nope, the target is bigger
[08:35] <Plazma> seife, in life youll rarely get that.. google is your friend
[08:35] <seife> 3 days trying to solve this shiat, no sleep.
[08:35] <seife> format c:\ install windows is my friend
[08:35] <Enyo> seife, get some sleep, then itll make sense.
[08:35] <erUSUL> barongas, from the linux tips how to '(cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)'
[08:35] <meck> that's fine too, i think... you might just end up with unpartitioned space at the end of the target drive
[08:35] <Plazma> seife, yea get some sleep.. id love to help you step by step but i have a LAN party to attend a bit later
[08:36] <Plazma> so im killing time til it
[08:36] <Enyo> Plazma, what game?
[08:36] <meck> try the dd then try to use the target drive and check it with gparted
[08:36] <Enyo> Plazma, or games
[08:36] <Mabus06> does anyone know how to put "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shorcut? I tried putting it in the "command" part of the shortcut, but it does not work. It only works if I type it in the terminal manually.
[08:36] <meck> haven't tried it myself, but it should work
[08:36] <seife> somone help me step by step
[08:36] <seife> !
[08:36] <ubotu> seife: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:36] <JulienH> What is the most complete MTA between Courrier and Cyrus ?
[08:36] <Enyo> seife, no ones gonna spoon feed, search the ubuntu forums man
[08:36] <JulienH> What is the most complete MTA between Courrier and Cyrus ?
[08:36] <barongas> meck, I'll try the dd way first and see...
[08:36] <Enyo> seife, or ask specific questions, now, "how do i install and run and configure Linux?"
[08:36] <Plazma> Enyo, sine its a school function.. my campus.. its just 2 demos.. bf1942 and ut2004,, both great games
[08:37] <Plazma> Enyo, if dreamcast games are on cd then who cars.. i get free games out o fit
[08:37] <Enyo> Plazma, exactly, thats what im saying
[08:37] <Plazma> Enyo.. haha yea
[08:37] <Enyo> Plazma, i might still recommend getting a dreamcast emulator :)
[08:37] <Enyo> Plazma, chances are your PC is better than the dreamcast
[08:37] <Plazma> Enyo, aye true.. now i dont want to buy one
[08:37] <erUSUL> JulienH,  Courrier and Cyrus are not mtas
[08:37] <Enyo> haha
[08:38] <dabaR_> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5270 some short explanation of the file. The only thing I see that is different than usual is that there is not auto eth0 line at the end, which I usually always see.
[08:38] <Plazma> bah here i was all hyped up about it
[08:38] <alex__> hi people, can you help me plz ? i`ve downloaded some cursers (tar.gz) and i dont know how to install them, what should i do plz ?
[08:38] <Enyo> Plazma, if you like sitting on the couch and you have a good TV, go for the console man
[08:38] <Enyo> Plazma, but this is way off topic :)
[08:38] <erUSUL> barongas, the tar thing is safer dd is too low level for this
[08:38] <Plazma> Enyo, yea i tis.. i love consoles but i rarely play them anymore.. i do pc games for the most part
[08:38] <theD3viL> alex__, the best thing you can do...is sudo apt-get install installcheck
[08:38] <dabaR_> Mabus06: have you tried putting "" around the command?
[08:38] <dmlinux> anyone play CS:S here?
[08:38] <Enyo> dmlinux, me
[08:39] <Plazma> dmlinux, steam is crap in linux
[08:39] <theD3viL> alex__, and then ./configure && make && checkinstall
[08:39] <dmlinux> Plazma im in windows atm
[08:39] <Enyo> that's because Steam is meant for Windows, but then again
[08:39] <dabaR_> we actually talk about ubuntu here, we dont play games in a chatroom o_O
[08:39] <Enyo> its cracp for hta ttoo lol
[08:39] <Plazma> haha
[08:39] <theD3viL> dmlinux, i wanna play, but dont have acc...and many for it
[08:39] <meck> erUSUL, if the target drive is blank, dd will make an identical copy, tarring and moving requires that he also partition the target drive separately
[08:39] <JulienH> So, courrier or cyrus ?
[08:39] <Mabus06> no there were no quotation marks, dabaR. I wll try that, thanks.
[08:39] <donald> Question: (new user of Ebuntu} How can i change the color quality......i have the screen resolution set at 800x600 and the video response seems sluggish.
[08:39] <Plazma> dabaR, im killing the old myth that *nix users dont play games
[08:39] <dmlinux> plazma i jsut started playing it again and its telling me all the servers use a newr protocol (7) how do i fix this
[08:39] <Plazma> hehe
[08:39] <meck> but yeah, tar is probably safer
[08:39] <Plazma> dmlinux, not a clue.. sorry
[08:39] <erUSUL> alex__, are you sure that the thing you are trying to install is not in the repos??
[08:40] <alex__> whats repos ?
[08:40] <dabaR_> Plazma: well, *nix users invented games...no not really.
[08:40] <theD3viL> alex__, apt
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  yes really
[08:40] <alex__> i did
[08:40] <theD3viL> alex__, man apt
[08:40] <Enyo> http://www.linux-gamers.net
[08:40] <alex__> it says
[08:40] <dmlinux> Plazma i now remember why i quit playing HL2. valve sux ass
[08:40] <alex__> that
[08:40] <alex__> e couldnt found
[08:40] <mwe> dmlinux: yeah
[08:40] <Enyo> dmlinux, what!?
[08:40] <dabaR_> bluefoxicy: well, there were games probably on OSs before *nix.
[08:40] <Plazma> dabaR_, thats true too.. XPLANE i sa really good simulation from what i hear
[08:40] <Enyo> are you guys insane?
[08:40] <dabaR_> I am.
[08:40] <theD3viL> alex__, do you add sources
[08:41] <alex__> no
[08:41] <erUSUL> JulienH,  Courrier and Cyrus are not mtas they are pop server what are you trying to set up an mta or a pop server??
[08:41] <theD3viL> alex__, what do you searching?
[08:41] <Enyo> all you can play for linux natively, thats any good
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  there were OSes before Unix?
[08:41] <Enyo> is quake 4 and abuse
[08:41] <dabaR_> alex__: definitely keep your sentences in one line, I can not read this way.
[08:41] <ardchoille> dabaR_: OK, thank you very much :)
[08:41] <dmlinux> im not playing it in linux right now enyo
[08:41] <dmlinux> im in windows atm
[08:41] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell alex__ about repos
[08:41] <alex__> i`ve downloaded some cursors and i want to install them
[08:41] <dabaR_> ardchoille: wish I could do more about that one.
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> Enyo: and Doom3, and Doom2, and Doom, and Quake, and Quake 2, and Quake 3, and Duke Nukem, and Unreal
[08:41] <JulienH> erUSUL: pop servers, sorry :)
[08:41] <Plazma> Enyo, ut2004 runs great on linux natively, so does quake 3
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> Enyo:  I think that's everything (All Unreal installments btw)
[08:42] <JulienH> erUSUL: with big mailboxes and a hundreds of emails address
[08:42] <Enyo> Well i got an ATi Radeon 9550 with no 3d acceleration
[08:42] <dmlinux> Plazma sims 2 runs ok.
[08:42] <Enyo> because i keep getting a black screen whenever using fglrx and tryign to launch X
[08:42] <Plazma> enyo, i have 9800 pro 128 ddr
[08:42] <ardchoille> dabaR_: your explanations taught me quite a bit :)
[08:42] <dabaR_> Enyo: and you read the wiki?
[08:43] <erUSUL> JulienH, i can comment on neither of the two. i've never seted up a pop server
[08:43] <mwe> Plazma: great card: I had that one too until it melted
[08:43] <dmlinux> Enyo ATI mobility radeon x300 128mb pci-express here
[08:43] <Plazma> mwe, haha yea.. but i dont overclock .. im not so much into that
[08:43] <Plazma> mwe, one of my friends did that too
[08:43] <Enyo> dabaR, yes
[08:44] <mwe> Plazma: I dont OC either. I think the fan was half-broken
[08:44] <Plazma> ahh
[08:44] <sorush20> where is the unstable debian repositories
[08:44] <bluefoxicy> Enyo:  Umm, can't you use the open source xorg radeon driver with glx to do 3D, instead of fglrx?
[08:44] <Enyo> It doesnt work
[08:44] <dabaR_> sorush20: if you are using ubuntu, you do not want to install from there, almost certainly.
[08:44] <Enyo> i have a nforce 2 board
[08:44] <Enyo> and i set setinternalagpart to no
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> you said you have a 9550
[08:45] <dmlinux> i wish i could run BF2 under linux :(
[08:45] <Enyo> yes and i have an nforce 2 board..
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> huh.  :(
[08:45] <william_> Does anyone else have the problem with GAIM where it keeps flashing the window even though Ive checked it a million times
[08:45] <Enyo> wow.
[08:45] <theD3viL> william_, yes, just click it
[08:45] <theD3viL> william_, or type one word and delete it
[08:45] <dabaR_> william_: also check your settings, to make sure.
[08:45] <william_> clicking it does nothing it keeps flashing
[08:46] <william_> lol
[08:46] <sorush20> hi
[08:46] <theD3viL> william_, it must work
[08:46] <dabaR_> william_: does it flash in the bottom panel in the window list?
[08:46] <william_> yeah
[08:46] <alex__> can you tell me again about repos because i accedently closed the window
[08:46] <dabaR_> sorush20: HI.
[08:46] <theD3viL> william_, works ?
[08:46] <william_> over and over even though ive checked for new messages
[08:46] <seife> ok
[08:46] <seife> ubuntu its not for me
[08:46] <dabaR_> alex__: you can also try this page: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[08:46] <theD3viL> ubotu, tell alex__ about repos
[08:47] <gnomefreak> anything i need to know about .jar files downloaded from a site?
[08:47] <Enyo> dabaR, wanna help me set up 3d acceleration with my card?
[08:47] <dabaR_> gnomefreak: what would you like to know.
[08:47] <eobanb> what card
[08:47] <Enyo> ATi 9550
[08:47] <dabaR_> Enyo: I would love to, but, I dont know how.
[08:47] <theD3viL> alex__, did you read? click first link
[08:47] <Enyo> with nforce 2 board
[08:47] <gnomefreak> anything i need to do to install it after downloading it?
[08:47] <dabaR_> gnomefreak: what is it?
[08:48] <gnomefreak> its robocode
[08:48] <theD3viL> I hope ubuntu next relases wont be like suse fedora mandriva ... so fucking slow...couse 100000 services.
[08:48] <dabaR_> gnomefreak: it depends on what the .jar is, cause it can be many things.
[08:48] <Enyo> can you use nmap to ping sweep 2 ip blocks?
[08:48] <Enyo> like 24.150.1-255.1-255
[08:48] <alex__> no because my computer keeps stocking
[08:48] <dabaR_> gnomefreak: do you have java installed?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> yes i have the 1.4 from the multi repos
[08:49] <levander> Anybody know if there's a way to turn on long file name support in nautilus?  Or, is it on by default?
[08:49] <alex__> is there any other program for irc then X-chat ?
[08:49] <dabaR_> gnomefreak: go in a terminal to the dir you downloaded it to, and try running it. java blah.jar
[08:50] <gnomefreak> ok when its done ill do it
[08:50] <rambo3> chatzilla addon for firefox . irssi text
[08:50] <dabaR_> alex__: I use irssi, there is bitchX those are in a terminal. also, there is gaim, and many other ones likely. Use synaptic to search for irc.
[08:50] <gnomefreak> bitchx :)
[08:50] <levander> alex__: yeah, there's lots "apt-cache search irc"
[08:50] <gparent> Does EXT3 fragment^
[08:50] <alex__> i use gaim
[08:50] <alex__> but how do i enter here from there?
[08:50] <dabaR_> alex__: the page I linked you to above shows how to search with synaptic too,.
[08:51] <ProtectYaNeck> Enyo, you got it?
[08:51] <gparent> !fragmentation
[08:51] <ubotu> gparent: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:51] <alex__> yeah, but i cant enter there because my stupid computer keeps stucking all the time
[08:51] <gparent> ...
[08:51] <dabaR_> alex__: ctrl+a then add account, of type IRC. input the server(this is irc.freenode.net) and go.
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> gparent,  not really.
[08:51] <dabaR_> alex__: you can not open http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html ?
[08:52] <erUSUL> gparent, not much
[08:52] <gparent> ok
[08:52] <alex__> brb
[08:52] <Pokesomi> Hello
[08:53] <Pokesomi> I have a question about formating a drive to recover it in windows
[08:53] <theD3viL> Pokesomi, ...
[08:53] <Pokesomi> i used the live cd to format a disk that is connected via firewire and was wondering what i need to do so windows will recognize the disk
[08:54] <gparent> Anybody using jedit^
[08:54] <gparent> ?
[08:54] <theD3viL> Pokesomi, you have to mount it, if is ntfs or vfat
[08:54] <theD3viL> Pokesomi, sry fat32
[08:54] <erUSUL> Pokesomi, format it as fat or ntfs
[08:54] <Pokesomi> how do i do that
[08:54] <theD3viL> Pokesomi, hm...just a sec
[08:55] <Pokesomi> ok
[08:55] <jacobkm> Hey, folks -- I'm trying to get my box to bind to a number of IP addresses when it boots using virtual interfaces (i.e. eth0:1, eth0:2, etc.) and I can't figure out how to make the interfaces come up on boot.  My /etc/network/interfaces is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5271; anyone have any pointers?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> or use that IFS tool under XP to access a ext2/3 partition.
[08:55] <erUSUL> Pokesomi, you've said that you already formated it
[08:55] <theD3viL> ubotu, tell Pokesomi about ntfs
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> anyone here every tried to install ubuntu on a nvidia raid0 and had the problem of getting the install to install the bootloader? both lilo and grub didnt want to install
[08:55] <Pokesomi> to the vfat format
[08:56] <Pokesomi> i am acctually in windows right now
[08:56] <ericz> how do i make a file hidden in ubuntu? i don't want to see it the directory when i open up nautilus
[08:56] <erUSUL> Pokesomi, then yo are done
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> lsuactiafner,  what chipset is that thing using? id heard of some 'issues' with some nforce chipsets
[08:56] <dabaR_> erUSUL: prepend its name with a .
[08:56] <Pokesomi> its not showing up in my drives list
[08:56] <redleer> couple questions 1: could someone give url to thread where is told how to update radeon x800 drivers 2: how to limit download/upload speeds in linux
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> er4z0r,  .hiddendirectory
[08:56] <ubuntu_> bonjour
[08:56] <dabaR_> jacobkm: and they work, but do not come up on boot?
[08:56] <Pokesomi> also the current release of ubuntu does not support wireless yet
[08:57] <erUSUL> ericz,  prepend its name with a .
[08:57] <jacobkm> dabaR_: yes
[08:57] <ericz> what?
[08:57] <dabaR_> jacobkm: neither of the two do, right?
[08:57] <theCore> ubuntu_: bonjour
[08:57] <erUSUL> dabaR_, i knew that ;)
[08:57] <lsuactiafner> Dr_Willis : nforce4
[08:57] <ubuntu_> chanel FR plz
[08:57] <jacobkm> dabaR_: eth0 does; eth0:1 does not.
[08:57] <dabaR_> erUSUL: :) thanks^
[08:57] <theCore> ubuntu_ : #ubuntu-fr
[08:57] <Plazma> ahh thar we go
[08:57] <ubuntu_> thx
[08:57] <erUSUL> Pokesomi, it does
[08:57] <dabaR_> jacobkm: how do you start eth0:1?
[08:57] <lsuactiafner> but the install went flawlessly till it wanted to install the boot loader, lilo said cant install onto raid0
[08:57] <coz> hello guys
[08:57] <Pokesomi> the live cd supports it?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> lsuactiafner,  yep. You may need to do some googling. Id heard some bad things about the nforce4
[08:58] <coz>  I have a question
[08:58] <lsuactiafner> and grub stage1 failed
[08:58] <jacobkm> dabaR_: "ifup eth0:1" does the trick, just not at boot.
[08:58] <coz>  I donwloaded an app named gear pro and it came in a tar.gz package
[08:58] <dabaR_> jacobkm: that is all your interfaces file has in it?
[08:58] <lsuactiafner> Dr_Willis : its not the nforce4, its lilo that cant install onto raid0, so how am i supposed to boot the system up then?
[08:58] <jacobkm> dabaR_: yup, that's it.
[08:58] <coz> I talked to the company they said to run gunzip first and then tar but I am stuck at running tar
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> tar -xf file.tar
[08:59] <dabaR_> jacobkm: well. try adding as the last line, auto eth0:1, then come back if that does not do it.
[08:59] <erUSUL> Pokesomi, i do not have wireless myself but i've got friends that have used the livecd and wireless
[08:59] <dabaR_> jacobkm: just one sec, tho.
[08:59] <coz> Ok I will try that hold on
[08:59] <jacobkm> dabaR_: I'll try that...
[08:59] <dabaR_> yes, that is it, auto eth0:1.
[08:59] <dabaR_> jacobkm: do you remember the comments that were in the file?
[09:00] <erUSUL> coz, tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[09:00] <jacobkm> dabaR_: if they're the same as the ones on my other ubuntu box then yes
[09:00] <SturmAuge> Hello, Could someone help me. I want to install Ubuntu 5.10 on my external firewire drive and I am a little bit lost at the moment. Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
[09:00] <redleer> could someone help me?
[09:01] <dabaR_> jacobkm: ya, shoudl be. What I am talking about is where it says the hotplug is the automatically started interfaces. if this does not work, you can try that.
[09:01] <Pokesomi> I will try the format again
[09:01] <dabaR_> redleer: we will try as soon as you say about what you need help.
[09:01] <alex1> hello again
[09:01] <dabaR_> hey alex1
[09:01] <seife> SOMEOnE HELP ME to set up my wireless network PLEASE
[09:01] <jacobkm> dabaR_: rebooting now; I'll see if that works -- thanks
[09:01] <redleer> couple questions 1: could someone give url to thread where is told how to update radeon x800 drivers 2: how to limit download/upload speeds in linux
[09:01] <dabaR_> SturmAuge: an external HD, you want to install ubuntu on that?
[09:02] <alex1> now, can you plz send me again the links, this time the computer is allright
[09:02] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell redleer about ati
[09:02] <coz> OK all that did was extract the files
[09:02] <coz> OK all that did was extract the files
[09:02] <SturmAuge> dabaR: Yes I want to install Ubuntu on my external harddrive.
[09:02] <dabaR_> redleer: ubotu told you in pm how to do the ati drivers, as for download speeds, I do not know.
[09:02] <redleer> yup got it
[09:02] <redleer> thanks
[09:02] <VooDoo> ATI Drivers? *ears perk*
[09:03] <dabaR_> coz: and you want to do what else?
[09:03] <coz> install the the software
[09:03] <redguy> coz: ask people who relesed the software on instructions how to install it
[09:03] <dabaR_> they are really ubuntu drivers, for the ati card, I am not sure how the whole story goes in regard to the binary drivers.
[09:03] <VooDoo> i didnt bother with ati drivers [not knowing what the conversation is about :)
[09:04] <mroth> if i want to manually stick a Perl library (*.pm) file into my active ones, where's the best place to put that as a user?
[09:04] <deltron> I wanna get ubuntu working on my laptop tonight
[09:04] <dabaR_> /usr/lib afaik.
[09:04] <firecracker2k5> Hi guys, how do I add the extra repos, multiverse i think it is
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> right so with hoary and now with breezy ubuntu fails to install the bootloader on my system, asus a8n deluxe nforce4
[09:04] <jacobkm> dabaR_: that was it! much thanks
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> really thats pathetic and nobody here can tell me why but to google whilest the other distribution gets it right
[09:05] <dabaR_> firecracker2k5: try http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:05] <dabaR_> jacobkm: sweet:)
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <alex1> dabaR can you halp me again plz
[09:05] <Luckace45> http://ubuntox.be/
[09:05] <MickMcMack> O_o
[09:05] <dabaR_> ok, anyone that opens that...
[09:05] <dabaR_> invites him to come again.
[09:05] <MickMcMack> Must... Not... Click... Link... >_<;;;
[09:05] <alex1> hhh
[09:05] <alex1> lol
[09:06] <dabaR_> alex1: I helped you before?
[09:06] <alex1> yeah
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> Ewww Cow Porn!
[09:06] <alex1> i restarted
[09:06] <dabaR_> with what, and what can I help you with now? ask the channel, if I know, I will answer.
[09:06] <alex1> my pc
[09:06] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, with webcam?? :PP
[09:06] <alex1> how to install the cursors
[09:06] <seife> SOMEONE HELP
[09:06] <dabaR_> alex1: cursors for the mouse pointer?
[09:06] <theD3viL> seife, what is your problem ?
[09:06] <dabaR_> seife: what would you like?
[09:06] <alex1> yeah (tar.bz)
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> seife,  state your question in the form of a question.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[09:07] <firecracker2k5> dabaR, Thanks, but that does not tell me how to add extra repos to breezy
[09:07] <theD3viL> alex1, unpack it with tar -zxvf
[09:07] <alex1> and then what?
[09:07] <dabaR_> firecracker2k5: no? the first page tells you right away.
[09:07] <firecracker2k5> I would like to add multiverse I think it is called
[09:07] <theD3viL> ubotu, tell firecracker2k5 about repos
[09:07] <dli_> theD3viL, alex1 said tar.bz
[09:07] <seife> how do i  configure and setup a wifi network? i cant get my crap ieee 802.11b connect to my wireless network
[09:07] <gnomefreak> dabaR, sorry i cant scroll that far back :( it was java robocode-setup.jar?
[09:07] <alex1> tell me to
[09:08] <gnomefreak> or something like that
[09:08] <theD3viL> dli_, oh sry.
[09:08] <donald> Question: Is there a CorelLinux IRC server that anyone knows of......i need some help with that distro.
[09:08] <firecracker2k5> theD3viL, Thanks
[09:08] <theD3viL> didnt see
[09:08] <alex1> theD3vil send me about repos
[09:08] <SturmAuge> How to install Ubuntu on my external HD. I have the CD and I can boot from it but I don't want to just type "install" because I have to somehow specify a target disk. Or am I missing something big here?
[09:08] <alex1> plz
[09:08] <dabaR_> gnomefreak: it does not work, you will need to find out how to work that program.
[09:08] <dli_> seife, lspci
[09:08] <theD3viL> !repos
[09:08] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ok ty dabaR
[09:08] <dli_> theD3viL, is there "apt-setup" in ubuntu?
[09:09] <alex1> ok 10x
[09:09] <theD3viL> dli_, yes...but you dont need it.
[09:09] <seife> dli_, it detects the device
[09:09] <theD3viL> dli_, synaptic do it for you
[09:09] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i download softwares from synaptic
[09:09] <Stormx2> How do I make a mounted FTP folder open in nautilus when selected from the "Places" menu?
[09:09] <Stormx2> matrix-ubuntu-c: Right Click > Mark to install
[09:09] <Stormx2> matrix-ubuntu-c: Then Apply Changes
[09:10] <erUSUL> SturmAuge, maybe doing an expert install you can choose the target device
[09:10] <seife> dli_, keep helpingme
[09:10] <dli_> seife: what's your trouble?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> it gives me an exception in thread "main" java.lang.noclassdeffounderror  what does that mean?
[09:10] <theCore> is it a linux newbie here that would like an intro with linux ?
[09:10] <dabaR_> alex1: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=change+mouse+cursor
[09:10] <Stormx2> SturmAuge: You'll be asked questions before it goes ahead and installs.
[09:11] <seife> I JUST CANT CONNECT TO THE WIRELESS NETWORK, I GET INTERNET ON MY SISTER COMP VIA WIRElESS that has windows but this laptop has ubuntu and dont get wireless internet
[09:11] <Stormx2> !wireless
[09:11] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:11] <SturmAuge> Stormx2, really? I wasn't sure about that and I didn't want to mess up my other drive
[09:11] <theCore> seife, caps
[09:11] <seife> its just as simple as that, thats the problem, ubuntu is the problem, sorry for the caps
[09:11] <dli_> theCore, I suppose you want to use linux. then, just start using it, and ask your questions (if any)
[09:11] <dabaR_> ubotu themes is also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694
[09:11] <ubotu> okay, dabaR_
[09:11] <Stormx2> SturmAuge: Yep. it should say before its about to install anything
[09:11] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i right click there is not such thing to install
[09:11] <theD3viL> dabaR, eyecandy rox :)
[09:11] <webwolf_27> seife, have you checked the hardware compatibility list
[09:11] <theCore> dli_: no, i want to help a newbie
[09:12] <Stormx2> theCore: lol!
[09:12] <Stormx2> theCore: Well wait for someone to ask a question then ;-) Or write a guide and put it online!
[09:12] <SturmAuge> Stormx2, so I can just make the default installation by typing "install"?
[09:12] <csaba> hi
[09:12] <natdigga_at_work> Question:  If I want to put a new video card in my installed version of 5.10 breezy Ubuntu.  What should I expect when I bring the computer back up?
[09:12] <dli_> seife, do you have the driver? can you see your card in "ifconfig"
[09:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i see the green means the package is installed right
[09:12] <seife> yes i can see it there.
[09:12] <Nelo> Hello, I installed ubuntu but the i picked the incorrecte resolution for the video card. what is the command to configure this from a shell promtp?
[09:12] <Stormx2> SturmAuge: From an install CD? You just have to hit enter. it will allow you to select where to install
[09:12] <seife> webwolf_27, its not compatible, but i see t on ifconfig
[09:12] <seife> dli_, what more
[09:13] <theCore> Stormx2: maybe ...
[09:13] <Stormx2> natdigga_at_work: Be prepared for 640x480
[09:13] <dli_> seife: your sister uses wep or wpa for encryption?
[09:13] <erUSUL> natdigga_at_work, gdm won't start and you will have to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:13] <webwolf_27> seife, then it may be seen as a different wifi
[09:13] <randy> Good Day all.
[09:13] <SturmAuge> Stormx2, OK, I'll try that. Thanks for your help!
[09:13] <natdigga_at_work> stormx2, thanks okay I can deal with that.
[09:13] <dli_> seife: you need to follow wpa howto. I suppose
[09:13] <natdigga_at_work> Nelo, run that command that erUSUl just told me.
[09:13] <natdigga_at_work> Nelo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <Nelo> natdigga_at_work what was the command?
[09:14] <Nelo> thanks..
[09:14] <Stormx2> Nelo: When running that, the current answer is selected by default. Just keep hitting enter till you get to the screen res bit
[09:14] <seife> where is that wpa howto
[09:14] <Nelo> Stormx2 thanks
[09:14] <dabaR> matrix-ubuntu-c: you can check out my assignment on synaptic: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[09:15] <theD3viL> dabaR, what theme do you using?
[09:15] <dli_> seife: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html
[09:15] <sorush20> I want to create folder structure for my home directory I want to do it on the terminal since I think its going to be a lot faster how can I get multiple directories to be created in one after the other?
[09:15] <dabaR> theD3viL: Alex_1 was instaling a mouse theme. I use openbox, with the ubuntu theme.
[09:15] <natdigga2> Anyone know if the Intel i740 card is better than the ATI 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133 card in Ubuntu?
[09:15] <dli_> seife: still I found there's no need for wpa, ask your sister to remove encryption.
[09:15] <webwolf_27> sorush20, try mkdir dir1 dir2 etc...
[09:15] <rathma> hi all
[09:15] <Stormx2> sorush20: man mkdir
[09:15] <theD3viL> k
[09:16] <dli_> natdigga2, sound all old cards
[09:16] <natdigga2> dli_, so I should expect anything better with the i740?
[09:16] <seife> its ubuntu..
[09:16] <seife> windows automatically get the internet
[09:16] <dli_> natdigga2, no idea, all are old :(
[09:16] <seife> like magic, no google, no click it just get it
[09:17] <Kelsey23> What is the name of a good program I can use to resize ext3 partitions
[09:17] <quiliro> hello
[09:17] <webwolf_27> seife, ha. maybe on that card. I've seen more hardware problems with windows then I ever have with linux
[09:17] <rathma> hello
[09:17] <Kelsey23> hello
[09:17] <jono> hi all - how do I restart esd from init.d?
[09:17] <Stormx2> seife: 99% of companies that make network cards make the installation cds for windows. We have to write the drivers ourselves, so it can be more fiddly
[09:17] <natdigga2> hehehe okay.  I'll swap it out anyhow and see.  I need to find a decent PCI video card....there aren't many about.
[09:17] <dabaR> seife: nono, none of it is magic, really. it is months of work behind closed doors, not letting anyone else know how your hardware works except m$.
[09:17] <dli_> seife: they might make wpa auto in ubuntu
[09:17] <webwolf_27> Kelsey23, parted, qtparted as a frontend
[09:17] <Kelsey23> ok
[09:17] <Kelsey23> thanks
[09:18] <Kelsey23> and I can use that to make 2 partitions out of one existing ext3 part?
[09:18] <Stormx2> Kelsey23: Yes. Shrink the current ext3 partition and make a new one
[09:18] <dli_> seife: there's really not much you can gain by using wpa, I don't use it.
[09:18] <Kelsey23> ok
[09:18] <webwolf_27> Kelsey23, as far as I remember though ext3 can only be modified offline (unmounted)
[09:19] <Stormx2> Yes thats true/.
[09:19] <Kelsey23> thats what I wanted to do, but the installer for the new version of Linux I wsa going to install didnt support that
[09:19] <dabaR> jono: you do not. if you are in gnome, and want to restart esd, first sudo killall esd in a terminal, then enter. then "nohup esd&" in the terminal, and then enter, then close the terminal.
[09:19] <Stormx2> Kelsey23: You may need to use a Live CD
[09:19] <Kelsey23> Ok
[09:19] <quiliro> does anyone know what to do if xwindow doesn start? last time i powered the computer it did
[09:19] <seife> man wtf its wpa it just a router sending internet
[09:19] <Kelsey23> I have the Hoary 5.04 LiveCD
[09:19] <webwolf_27> Kelsey23, knoppix contains all the needed tools
[09:19] <seife> the device just dont get the internet
[09:19] <Kelsey23> I dont have that
[09:20] <seife> or the router is not sending to this device
[09:20] <Stormx2> Kelsey23: That may do it. if in doubt, use knoppix
[09:20] <dli_> seife, right, disable wpa in that router
[09:20] <dabaR> seife: no, you just do not know very specifically how it works, you understand it gives you internet, but it works with a technology.
[09:20] <webwolf_27> Kelsey23, I don't know if Hoary has qtparted, but parted should be stock
[09:20] <dli_> seife: or go through the steps to setup wpa in ubuntu
[09:20] <Stormx2> seife: Can you ping your router?
[09:20] <Kelsey23> Ok
[09:20] <dabaR> gparted too.
[09:20] <webwolf_27> dabaR, never used gparted
[09:21] <dli_> Stormx2, how could he? it's wpa
[09:21] <Stormx2> Why?
[09:21] <dabaR> !epa
[09:21] <ubotu> dabaR: Wish i knew
[09:21] <dabaR> !wpa
[09:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[09:21] <dabaR> seife: only do that if you find out for sure you need to use wpa.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> !info wpa
[09:22] <Stormx2> Time machine style.
[09:22] <quiliro> how to repair xwindows?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> is wpa wireless? ubotu didnt know
[09:22] <dabaR> quiliro: it depends on what is wrong with them.
[09:22] <dli_> seife: I found it's secure enough for me to use MAC address filter
[09:22] <quiliro> how i find out
[09:22] <Stormx2> quiliro: I don't know, sorry.
[09:22] <dabaR> gnomefreak: wpa is a wireless security technology. the strongest one(so I hear).
[09:23] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhh
[09:23] <Paradosso> what is the linux command to update x server conf?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> dabaR, ty
[09:23] <seife> dli_, ok my router supports it, now how do i configure my device to use that mac address filter
[09:23] <dabaR> quiliro: well, tell us what error you get, for one.
[09:23] <seife> tell me what i have to do
[09:23] <Kelsey23> could I use the Ubuntu install CD to resize a partition
[09:23] <dabaR> Paradosso: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:23] <gnomefreak> Paradosso, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:23] <dli_> seife: get your local MAC, (by "ifconfig")
[09:23] <dabaR> Kelsey23: the ubuntu breezy cd has that as an option during the insatll.
[09:23] <quiliro> it just starts up in runlevel 2
[09:23] <Kelsey23> I have the 5.04 installer........
[09:24] <Paradosso> there was a much shorter command I remember
[09:24] <deltron> dabaR: not hoary?
[09:24] <Stormx2> Kelsey23: Yes, that will do it
[09:24] <dli_> seife: put it (and your windows machine's by "ipconfig /all")
[09:24] <Kelsey23> .........but could I skip ahed to exeprt
[09:24] <funkyHat> Kelsey23, you could, you could also install gparted if you are using linux now
[09:24] <moiRee> hi, how can i extract a rar file?
[09:24] <deltron> n/m
[09:24] <dabaR> deltron: I am not 100% sure.
[09:24] <Kelsey23> $ unrar fiel
[09:24] <deltron> ok
[09:24] <Kelsey23> you have to download the app fisrt
[09:24] <quiliro> its hoary dabaR
[09:24] <gnomefreak> runlevel 2 is for multi users so thats fine if i got runlevel 2 right
[09:24] <dli_> seife: put all mac addresses in your router's Enable or Allow
[09:25] <Stormx2> moiRee: Install rar-free and rar-nonfree. Look in synaptic
[09:25] <dabaR> quiliro: do you get to a termuinal. did you just install, or did it work before? what graphical card does your computer have?
[09:25] <moiRee> Kelsey23: i use breezy, but unrar-free says "failed" and in x the type is not supported
[09:25] <seife> dli_,  this says that i have two wireless devices, SIGH, both have different Hwaddress
[09:25] <matrix-ubuntu-c> why when i click system admin users and groups it does not open
[09:25] <seife> oh not its the same
[09:25] <seife> ok i know whats my mac adress now
[09:25] <levander> Anybody can tell me why when I click "burn" in k3b, the only option in the resulting dialog is to "Only Create Image"? I don't want to only create the image, I want to burn the image to the DVD.
[09:26] <dabaR> matrix-ubuntu-c: I dont know. what did you do to it, does synaptic open, do you get an error?
[09:26] <quiliro> it worked before but now it doesn't. i can get into a terminal, but text only
[09:26] <dabaR> levander: a .iso type thing?
[09:26] <dli_> seife: it's called HWaddr , in ifconfig
[09:26] <matrix-ubuntu-c> synaptic opens but system admin user and groups it does not open
[09:26] <dabaR> quiliro: what did you do to it?
[09:26] <pozdiy> configuring access to windows shares according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently , but cannot mount them, where to look for the log with errors?
[09:26] <webwolf_27> quiliro, what grafic card
[09:26] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i just deleted a user sudo userdel name
[09:26] <matrix-ubuntu-c> from terminal
[09:26] <levander> dabaR: not sure what you mean, but yeah, a dvd image is an iso file
[09:27] <dabaR> is that what you are trying to burn?
[09:27] <quiliro> installed some packages w/synaptic
[09:27] <dli_> how long does shipit take usually? I just recommended it for many friends
[09:27] <dabaR> 4-6 weeks-2 months.
[09:27] <SturmAuge> In the installation my external hd doesn't show up in the list when it comes to partitioning a drive.
[09:27] <pozdiy> dli_, I got in ~1 month
[09:27] <webwolf_27> quiliro, does that include a kernel, are you running a nvidia card
[09:28] <dabaR> quiliro: "some" package does not exist:)
[09:28] <quiliro> dont remember, it was autodetected on installation
[09:28] <Stormx2> dli_: I live in south england, and it took a month
[09:28] <dli_> pozdiy, that's good. it's not needed, but people just love free stuff
[09:28] <levander> dabaR: no, i've got a bunch of files that I want k3b to burn to a data dvd, but "only create image" sounds like its going to stop before the image gets burned to dvd.  I don't just want an iso.  I want the iso on the dvd.
[09:28] <pozdiy> dli_, ;-)
[09:28] <kvantti> i wonder what can i do to fix the pipelining problem with alsa that gstreamer-properties gives after switching to alsa with a surround asound.conf script?
[09:28] <dli_> Stormx2, how long to China? then
[09:28] <Enyo> I wonder if theres any Graph Drawing programs or Physics programs for Linux?
[09:28] <seife> dli_, ok i put my MAC Address on mac adress filter list of router, now what i have to do..
[09:28] <quiliro> not nvidia, its avia
[09:29] <quiliro> VIA
[09:29] <dabaR> levander: asked in #kubuntu?
[09:29] <dli_> Enyo, gnuplot
[09:29] <webwolf_27> quiliro, do you know wher to find the errorlog
[09:29] <dli_> Enyo, I use grace, "apt-get install gnuplot grace"
[09:29] <seife> dli_,
[09:29] <dli_> seife, disable wpa
[09:30] <seife> u mean WEP?
[09:30] <dli_> seife: disable either wep or wpa
[09:30] <seife> where is that WPA stuff :S i just have WEP
[09:30] <seife> and its disabled
[09:30] <quiliro> .xsesson-errors?
[09:30] <dli_> seife: old router, choose non-encrypted, or something like that
[09:30] <webwolf_27> quiliro, thats a start
[09:30] <seife> ok now what.
[09:30] <rickardo> jag e gay
[09:31] <dli_> seife, at your ubuntu, "dhcpcd eth0", if it's eth0
[09:31] <quiliro> looked it up but has the date of the last succesfull X session, none of today
[09:32] <pozdiy> trying to mount windows share with smbfs, get this error in kernlog:"Dec  1 14:22:27 hecate kernel: smbfs: mount_data version -1208149504 is not supported", any suggestions?
[09:32] <seife> dli_,  'dhcpcd command not found'
[09:32] <dli_> seife: apt-get install pump
[09:32] <dli_> seife: pump -i eth0
[09:33] <seife> nothing happens
[09:34] <seife> Operation failed
[09:34] <dli_> seife: is it eth0?
[09:34] <seife> this shiat detect two, eth0 and eth3.
[09:35] <seife> i tried with both, both said Operation failed.
[09:35] <dli_> seife: did you put the correct mac address into your router
[09:35] <webwolf_27> quiliro, try startx
[09:35] <seife> yes my mac adress
[09:35] <Max-T> Hi all
[09:35] <quiliro> webwolf_27, i try to init 5 and it does not start graphical login
[09:35] <dli_> seife: if you are not sure, put both eth mac into your router
[09:35] <Pokesomi> Ok I cant get windows to recognise my external hard drive
[09:35] <seife> wait, its the program i just put pump and it says operation failed too, sigh
[09:36] <webwolf_27> quiliro, X is not init-bound
[09:36] <dli_> seife: for testing, you may disble your mac filter
[09:36] <webwolf_27> quiliro, run startx
[09:36] <Pokesomi> is there a specific command i need to use cause the Fat 32 option is not there
[09:36] <quiliro> startx works!
[09:36] <Max-T> I got a desktop with a NetGear WG311v3 WiFi card in it and after installing Ubuntu fresh it's not showing up in 'Networking' Anyone know how I can get it to pick this card up? I'm sure I read that this card is supported natively.
[09:36] <dli_> seife, allow open access to your router
[09:36] <seife> how i do that
[09:37] <dli_> seife: disable mac filter
[09:37] <seife> what about u configure my thing
[09:37] <Pokesomi> also i need to get drivers for my wireless if there are availible
[09:37] <webwolf_27> quiliro, ok then log out of X and run gdm as root
[09:37] <quiliro> webwolf_27, how do i make it default operation to startx
[09:37] <dli_> seife: I couldn't, router should never allow remote conf
[09:37] <quiliro> ok
[09:37] <seife> ok, mac is now disabled
[09:37] <Max-T> dli_ It shouldn't, but many do
[09:37] <webwolf_27> quiliro, add gdm to your default run level
[09:37] <Enyo> dli_, i was thinking more graphical you know
[09:38] <Max-T> Or many did... Most still do with password
[09:38] <redleer> bah damn kongueror timeouts on mozilla site :/
[09:38] <Enyo> dli_, i dont like commandline plotting, do you know any graphical ones where i can input functions and see it represented in graph form?
[09:38] <dli_> Max-T: okay, you hack his router and set it up
[09:38] <Pokesomi> can someone let me know where i can get the files for wireless?
[09:38] <dli_> Enyo: opendx from ibm
[09:38] <Max-T> lol
[09:38] <Enyo> dli_, perferably, free
[09:38] <dli_> Enyo: mathematica
[09:39] <webwolf_27> redleer, whats wrong with sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[09:39] <dli_> Enyo: grace is free, grace is both GUI and cmdline
[09:39] <seife> dli_, what more
[09:39] <Enyo> dli_, perferably in the Ubuntu repository
[09:39] <Enyo> dli_, how do i get it to display in GUI then
[09:39] <seife> dli_,  i disabled wireless mac filtering, now whut
[09:39] <dli_> Enyo: grace?
[09:39] <Pokesomi> i need help with a hard drive that i am trying to recover
[09:39] <Enyo> dli_, i think its xmgrace but its not working
[09:39] <Enyo> dli_, yes
[09:39] <dli_> seife: try "pump"
[09:39] <Max-T> Does anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to recognize my NetGear WG311v3 wireless card? I read that the card is supported natively and that I shouldn't need to download any drivers for it, but it's not showing up in 'Networking' only my modem and 10/100 NIC
[09:39] <dli_> Enyo: apt-get install grace
[09:40] <Enyo> dli_, i did, i have grace already.
[09:40] <dli_> Enyo: then, "xmgrace"
[09:40] <londonboi2k3> Right guys, officially my company is now going to use Linux, but I have a small problem, I want to use ubuntu, but for some reason it thinks there is no hd, its a SATA drive, and suse can see it, any ideas for getting breezy to see it?
[09:40] <Enyo> it says command not found
[09:40] <Enyo> chris@scheduler:~$ xmgrace
[09:40] <Enyo> bash: xmgrace: command not found
[09:40] <seife> Operation failed
[09:40] <Enyo> chris@scheduler:~$ grace -v
[09:40] <Enyo> Grace-5.1.17
[09:40] <Enyo>  and lots more info..
[09:40] <dli_> Enyo: you don't have the correct path :)
[09:40] <bushk> can somebody help me with a really simple C++ question?  what do i need to #include, and what functions are available to create a List of dynamic length?
[09:40] <Enyo> dli_, so what do i do?
[09:41] <seife> dli_, 'Operation failed.'
[09:41] <webwolf_27> bushk, #include <list>
[09:41] <kvantti> i wonder if fedora 4 by anyone's experience is cabable of doing 5.1 sound without this setup fuzz i got
[09:41] <dli_> seife:  check "dmesg"
[09:41] <dli_> seife: "dmesg|less"
[09:41] <Enyo> bushk, use vector
[09:41] <seife> ok, sec.
[09:41] <Enyo> bushk, its like a dynamic array
[09:41] <webwolf_27> bushk, use the STL list
[09:41] <redleer> how to see network usage?
[09:41] <dli_> seife: find your wireless card, (which eth?)
[09:41] <Pokesomi> I cant get ubuntu to format my fire wire hard drive to work in windows
[09:41] <kvantti> or mandriva?
[09:41] <quiliro> thanks very much webwolf_27, i'll try that, bye
[09:41] <dli_> redleer, netstat
[09:41] <webwolf_27> quiliro, np
[09:42] <Max-T> Can anyone here help me get my wireless card working?
[09:42] <Pokesomi> Same for me
[09:42] <dli_> enyc, what's your PATH now? printenv|grep PATH
[09:42] <azhoral> ciao a tutti
[09:43] <azhoral> ci sono italianI? ho un problema con fonts
[09:43] <webwolf_27> Enyo, when he asks for a list I give him list, for an array vector
[09:43] <Enyo> dli_, i found it, itsnot as great asi thought, i just want to make graphs graphically and be able to print them out
[09:43] <redleer> anything what is suitable for newbies? ;) would like some simple thing what shows how fast dl etc
[09:43] <dli_> enyo: grace is very powerful indeed
[09:43] <Enyo> webwolf_27, i use vectors for lists too, push.back() and pop.back() are good
[09:43] <dli_> enyo: give me one example, what kind of grace you do
[09:43] <azhoral> i have problem with fonts.. how I can set 100x100 dot ?
[09:43] <Enyo> dli_, i dont need that much power, just being able to make a v t graph for physics is enough
[09:43] <seife> dli_, read priv for a bit please
[09:43] <seife> im gonna paste
[09:44] <Enyo> !tell seife about pastebin
[09:44] <webwolf_27> Enyo, I usually just push() and pop(). but then I normally need the values in front
[09:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> what is cvs guys
[09:44] <Enyo> if your mother was a class, here insert method would be public
[09:44] <Enyo> ahaha
[09:45] <dli_> Enyo: say, you have a data file, with " x y" lines, you do, "xmgrace foo.dat"
[09:45] <Enyo> her*
[09:45] <seife> dli_, now whut
[09:45] <Enyo> dli_, i dont tho, i want to supply my own
[09:45] <webwolf_27> matrix-ubuntu-c, Concurrent version System
[09:45] <Enyo> dli_, i want to be like, okay, y = 5m + 5 orsomething, i dont know
[09:45] <Enyo> dli_, or for second degree fucntiosn like, y = a(x-h)^2 + k
[09:45] <dli_> seife: paste your dmesg to a paste bin
[09:45] <nadia007> if I'm looking for 10april05.rec in the /tmp/records directory what is the syntax using locate or any other search command?
[09:45] <Pokesomi> can anyone help me?
[09:46] <seife> pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[09:46] <dli_> Enyo: go to the "Data" menu, you find evaluate
[09:46] <Archie> hello guys and girls
[09:46] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, with what
[09:46] <nadia007> hi archie
[09:47] <Archie> just wanted to test the great ubuntu community with some little problems
[09:47] <Archie> at first
[09:47] <Pokesomi> my hard drive is recognized under windows but no partition is availible.  In ubuntu i used a VFAT as the formating but now windows cant mount the drive
[09:47] <Archie> anyone in the mood of helping?
[09:47] <Enyo> dli_, i dont see evaluate
[09:47] <Pokesomi> what do i need to do to get the FAT 32 filesystem
[09:47] <dli_> Enyo: for more complex function, you can always generate the data file in "x y" format, and xmgrace it
[09:48] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, is it formated or just partitioned
[09:48] <Pokesomi> formated
[09:48] <nadia007> pokesomi, where is the drive going to reside?
[09:48] <nadia007> pokesomi, win or ubuntu?
[09:48] <Pokesomi> its an external 250 gb drive
[09:48] <seife> pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[09:48] <dli_> Enyo: Data->Transformations->Evaluate Expressions
[09:48] <Pokesomi> win mostly but i may use it for some ubuntu stuff
[09:48] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, does linux see the drive
[09:48] <mikkelk> Any of you guys know a program for Gnome/X that can listen for some keystrokes (for example ctrl+f2) and then paste some text, it i press ctrl+f2?
[09:48] <Pokesomi> yes
[09:48] <Enyo> oh okay
[09:49] <Pokesomi> windows has the driver but thats it
[09:49] <nadia007> pokesomi assuming you're using a usb connection?
[09:49] <Pokesomi> firewire
[09:49] <Pokesomi> but i can do usb if i need to
[09:49] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, nadia007 doesn't that still use a scsi emu
[09:49] <sorush20> what backup software to dvd's can I use?
[09:50] <Pokesomi> what firewire
[09:50] <nadia007> I think it does...  if it does it should be /dev/sca or something.
[09:50] <seife> dli_, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445358
[09:50] <Paradosso> I installed artwiz fonts but I can't use them
[09:50] <Paradosso> seems they are not installes
[09:50] <Paradosso> d
[09:51] <Paradosso> how do I verify this?
[09:51] <Pokesomi> for me it shows up as /dev/sdd or something to that effect
[09:51] <nadia007> I like to install gparted to do all my partitioning and formating.
[09:51] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, check in sfdisk what the format system is
[09:51] <jianshi> Paradosso, i have the same problem haha
[09:51] <Pokesomi> how do i do that?
[09:51] <shining> any idea why mpd sound skips on ubuntu or debian while restarting X, while it doesnt happen on an other distrib?
[09:51] <seife> dli_, now what
[09:51] <Archie> well, i reckon one should just write down owns problems: decided to install ubuntu to see waht it is like (compared to kanotix and whoppix, which i used a bit before), let the automatic setup install the distro on a partition [15 gb]  and wanted to start -> monitor shutted blatantly down; restarted and chose recovery mode within the bootloader ....some text msgs, everything fine, text shell... "startx" and the monitor went off again...
[09:51] <Pokesomi> i am in windows right now cause i cant get my wireless to work with the live cd
[09:52] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, sudo /sbin/sfdisk -l /dev/sdd
[09:52] <nadia007> pokesomi, or you can install gparted and use the gui to configure the drive.  I found that to be the easiest way for me.
[09:52] <Archie> [sorry for the english, only 2nd language, and i am quite a bit out of school] 
[09:52] <shining> does it mean ubuntu and debian are so bloated that it affects performance and interactivity badly? :)
[09:52] <Pokesomi> nadia007 where do i get the files
[09:52] <nadia007> kay...  someone help me out...  linux command line for finding files within a directory.
[09:52] <webwolf_27> nadia007, he's in win
[09:53] <jianshi> ls [regex] 
[09:53] <dli_> seife: it's incomplete
[09:53] <webwolf_27> nadia007, and locate should do it
[09:53] <seife> ok
[09:53] <pder> i am curious if it is possible to use a computer system.  if so, how do i use it?
[09:53] <theCore> how I can redirect the stderr to stdout ?
[09:53] <theCore> in bash
[09:53] <webwolf_27> pder, how else would you now be chatting
[09:54] <dli_> theCore, foo 2>&1
[09:54] <jianshi> stderr doesn't get put to the screen?
[09:54] <jianshi> i thought it did.
[09:54] <Pokesomi> i think i found it
[09:54] <theCore> dli_: thx,
[09:54] <shining> jianshi: and?
[09:54] <nadia007> pokesomi, if you're in windows, are you just trying to format the drive... I thought the problem was not being able to access the drive in ubuntu?
[09:54] <seife> dli_, now its complete
[09:54] <seife> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445362
[09:54] <mp3guy> i've got a video encoded to dvd mpeg2 format, what program can i use to make a DVD iso out of it?
[09:55] <Pokesomi> no i am trying to recover the drive using ubuntu to get it to work in windows
[09:55] <Pokesomi> but i think i found gparted
[09:55] <Pokesomi> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[09:55] <jianshi> does anyone have a problem with rebooting ?
[09:55] <jianshi> i'm running on a laptop 5.10
[09:55] <nadia007> gparted is easy to find in ubuntu, just do a search in synaptic.
[09:55] <rambo3> whats the latest kernel in breezy
[09:55] <jianshi> and when i reboot, it just freezes
[09:55] <jianshi> everything else is fine
[09:55] <Pokesomi> i dont have wireless working yet
[09:56] <seife> Pokesomi, u wont, ubuntu its not for wireless
[09:56] <gabriel> hello i'm from argentina
[09:56] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, ok you need to check the partition type ( yes it is possible to format a partion with vfat even if the partition type is linux
[09:56] <nadia007> pokesomi, I was referring that program to you if you're on ubuntu, but if you're on windows, don't use that...
[09:56] <seife> dli_,  now what.
[09:56] <bluefoxicy> Holy SHIT.
[09:56] <Pokesomi> i can download it and install with the live cd right?
[09:56] <redleer> how to install .deb file?
[09:57] <theD3viL> dpkg -i file.deb
[09:57] <webwolf_27> Pokesomi, if you have all the dependancies yes
[09:57] <Pokesomi> ok
[09:57] <Pokesomi> so what should i use?
[09:57] <ale3hs> I got SDK 1.5, however I run 1.4.2 java environment.. How I switch to 1.5 environment?
[09:57] <dli_> seife: what's your essid? (network name of the router)
[09:57] <robotgeek> Pokesomi: it would help to know the details of your wireless card
[09:57] <seife> dli_, linksys
[09:57] <fabiob> !firefox
[09:57] <redleer> thanks
[09:57] <ubotu> fabiob: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:57] <robotgeek> ale3hs: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:57] <Pokesomi> linksys wpc54g
[09:58] <dli_> seife: anyway, "iwlist eth0 scan"
[09:58] <Pokesomi> pcmcia card
[09:58] <dli_> seife: I suppose it's eth0
[09:58] <jahshua> hm
[09:58] <seife> dli_, arturo@ubuntu:~$ iwlist eth0 scan
[09:58] <seife> Warning: Driver for device eth0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[09:58] <seife> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[09:58] <seife> may not be available...
[09:58] <matrix-ubuntu-c> i created a user how do make this superuser
[09:58] <seife> oops, i tought it was going to paste in one line, srry.
[09:58] <webwolf_27> ok time for me to go to bed folks. sorry I can help anybody more :(
[09:59] <ale3hs> robotgeek,  thanx
[09:59] <tom80> hey
[09:59] <webwolf_27> matrix-ubuntu-c, thats a dangerous thing to do
[09:59] <webwolf_27> Night
[09:59] <nadia007> night wolf_27
[09:59] <tom80> lalla
[09:59] <seife> dli_, did ya read?
[10:00] <linuxboy_> !list
[10:00] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:00] <jianshi> ale3hs, you need to get the packages called fakeroot, java-package, and java-common
[10:00] <dli_> seife: that's all?
[10:00] <jianshi> ale3hs, you also need to download the .bin file
[10:00] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell matrix-ubuntu-c about sudo
[10:00] <jianshi> ale3hs, from sun's site (for 1.5 sdk)
[10:00] <tom80> hey why are my drives marked with a lock?
[10:01] <tom80> root?
[10:01] <jianshi> ale3hs, you need to use fakeroot jpkg blah.bin
[10:01] <Pokesomi> so am i screwed or what do i need
[10:01] <ale3hs> jianshi, xqzme?? why?? java 1.5 is okay now
[10:01] <jianshi> ale3hs, then you need to run update-alternatives --config java
[10:01] <seife> dli_, yes
[10:01] <tom80> 1.505
[10:01] <derek[] > Hi!
[10:01] <jianshi> ale3hs, oh ok, thought you were having problems haha
[10:01] <derek[] > I encountered a problem during installation
[10:02] <seife> dli_, it says 'No scaning results' after the warning stuff
[10:02] <Archie> well, i reckon one should just write down owns problems: decided to install ubuntu to see waht it is like (compared to kanotix and whoppix, which i used a bit before), let the automatic setup install the distro on a partition [15 gb]  and wanted to start -> monitor shutted blatantly down; restarted and chose recovery mode within the bootloader ....some text msgs, everything fine, text shell... "startx" and the monitor went off again...
[10:02] <derek[] > "Unable to install GRUB in (hd0)"
[10:02] <jianshi> eclipse seems to run fine with gcj/gij
[10:02] <ale3hs> jianshi, the only thing I had to do was to run the alternatives config
[10:02] <dli_> seife: maybe, it's not eth0
[10:02] <jianshi> ale3hs, oh i see
[10:02] <jianshi> ale3hs, yeah to set default
[10:02] <seife> so what it is
[10:02] <derek[] > "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed"
[10:02] <ale3hs> jianshi, yea ..thanx anyway
[10:02] <derek[] > "This is a fatal error."
[10:02] <insipid> do i need to chroot into a 32 bit kernel to run winehq?
[10:02] <jianshi> ale3hs, cool
[10:02] <tom80> partitions are right ?
[10:02] <dli_> seife can you pastebin your /var/log/syslog
[10:02] <derek[] > Any idea why ?
[10:03] <ale3hs> jianshi, u prog java?
[10:03] <jianshi> ale3hs, ya
[10:03] <tom80> no ntfs
[10:03] <dli_> seife, your demsg is not complete
[10:03] <Pokesomi> i am going to light some insense
[10:03] <ale3hs> jianshi, what editor u use?
[10:03] <jianshi> eclipse 31
[10:03] <derek[] > tom80, are you talking to me?
[10:03] <seife> dli_, how do i see my /var/log/syslog
[10:03] <tom80> yeah
[10:03] <ale3hs> jianshi, I see.. I tried eclipse but is so heavy for my box
[10:03] <tom80> are you're drives formatted
[10:04] <Going> Greets, is this the proper channel to find help using Ubuntu?
[10:04] <dli_> seife, it's a file
[10:04] <derek[] > tom80, yes of course
[10:04] <tom80> ok
[10:04] <tom80> wel
[10:04] <seife> it has much lines
[10:04] <tom80> no grub?
[10:04] <derek[] > tom80, I'm doing dual boot.  winxp is installed on C:\
[10:04] <eobanb> Going, what do you need?
[10:04] <Stormx2> Going: Thats why its called #ubuntu
[10:04] <tom80> did you try lilo dualboot prog?
[10:04] <Discipulus> so when does Firefox 1.5 appear in Breezy?
[10:05] <derek[] > tom80, c:\ is fat32
[10:05] <Discipulus> er
[10:05] <Discipulus> not breezy
[10:05] <tom80> k
[10:05] <Discipulus> Dapper
[10:05] <derek[] > "tom80	no ntfs" . ...yea no ntfs
[10:05] <doctormo> Hey all
[10:05] <derek[] > tom80, and I was installing hoary
[10:05] <Going> This is my first time running Breezy Badger, and I am using a Live CD.
[10:05] <leandro> hi all... hi can I have ssh-agent to ask for my passphrase when x (gdm) starts ?
[10:05] <doctormo> Got an odd problem with my network
[10:05] <Pokesomi> i will report back with what i find
[10:05] <Red-Sox> hi
[10:05] <derek[] > tom80, no i didn't try lilo
[10:05] <jianshi> ale3hs, what kinda box you running
[10:05] <sorush20> is firefox 1.5 out or not?
[10:05] <ale3hs> jianshi, I told u in private
[10:05] <dli_> sorush20, yes
[10:05] <Going> However, I attached my USB-powered External hard drive, which I have partitioned into an NTFS and FAT32.
[10:05] <tom80> i suggest a reinstall ? it should work
[10:06] <Going> However, only the first partiton - NTFS - is being recognized.
[10:06] <jianshi> ale3hs, i couldn't get any msgs in private lol
[10:06] <tom80> in my case it works perfectly
[10:06] <jianshi> ale3hs, i guess it's ok like this.
[10:06] <derek[] > tom80, once i got this error, I retried. same failure. I retried with installing Grub on floppy. It hung up.. I had no option thanto hit the reset button
[10:06] <Stormx2> Going: Recognised or mounted?
[10:06] <jianshi> ale3hs, something is weird with my configuration
[10:06] <seife> dli_,  it has much lines
[10:06] <tom80> omg
[10:06] <leandro> I see the ssh-agent running... but when I ssh to some box it always asks my passphrase
[10:06] <derek[] > tom80, a reinstall of hoary or win?
[10:06] <jianshi> ale3hs, anyway if you don't use eclipse, what do you use?
[10:06] <jianshi> ale3hs, emacs?
[10:06] <tom80> hoary i think the installation failed in some ways
[10:06] <doctormo> My network does not start autmaticaly, when I go into the gui configuration and try and start them, they close down again
[10:07] <ale3hs> jianshi, I was using intellij IDEA ..its cool
[10:07] <doctormo> I am unable to find the logs to find out what is happening
[10:07] <ale3hs> jianshi, but in my windows box
[10:07] <Going> Mounted.
[10:07] <andrea> hi there
[10:07] <gimmulf_> Whats the difference on SDK and RE java packages, should i install both?
[10:07] <dli_> seife: you can do "grep eth /var/log/syslog"
[10:07] <derek[] > tom80, now when i booted windows.. it went crazy as it couldn't understand the filesystem ext3.. and its still showing the drives here.. but when i tried right-clicking on it.. it crashed..
[10:07] <Stormx2> Going: Do you know what device the fat32 partition is?
[10:07] <Going> (Give me a minute to figure out how to whisper...  It's been awhile since I've even used IRC)
[10:07] <andrea> i'm about to buy a used compaq evo w6000, are intel xeon bi-cpus supported?
[10:07] <dli_> seife, or "grep eth /var/log/syslog|less"
[10:07] <ale3hs> gimmulf_,  SDK is for development
[10:08] <jianshi> ale3hs, isn't that expensive?
[10:08] <gimmulf_> okok
[10:08] <tom80> sry derek i cannot help dont know what the prob causes ?
[10:08] <jianshi> ale3hs, idea
[10:08] <ale3hs> gimmulf_,  the other is just to run Java aplications
[10:08] <derek[] > :(
[10:08] <tom80> compu specs?
[10:08] <tom80> drives?
[10:08] <tom80> hd
[10:08] <Ce_Dreaku> hello
[10:08] <ale3hs> jianshi, com on man, it was cracked... what world are u living?? jesus christ !!
[10:08] <Ce_Dreaku> I need some urgent help please
[10:08] <Ce_Dreaku> who can tell me how to install a printer?
[10:08] <derek[] > tom80, well any idea why the grub install on mbr failed?
[10:08] <Going> @Stormx2 What do you mean by 'what device'?
[10:09] <tom80> how many hdd you got?
[10:09] <derek[] > tom80, one plugged in
[10:09] <tom80> ok
[10:09] <Stormx2> Going: like /dev/sba1 or whatecer
[10:09] <spikebike> maybe they charge $5 for a drink ;-)
[10:09] <Stormx2> *whatever
[10:09] <spikebike> oops
[10:09] <Stormx2> XD
[10:09] <Going> @Stormx2 I mean, it is basically an external hard drive that I've divided into two partitions.
[10:09] <ale3hs> jianshi, there is any way to make eclipse lighter?
[10:10] <Stormx2> Going: Yep, but the partitions are recognised differently
[10:10] <seife> dli_, here is http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445376 i did the |less one
[10:10] <tom80> i suggest looking in the bios, maybe there are some options in the boot sector which causes the problem
[10:10] <Stormx2> Going: Can you easily plug in / unplug the drive? i've never used a external hdd before.
[10:10] <jianshi> ale3hs, you can kill the plugins you don't need.
[10:10] <robotgeek> ale3hs: please refrain from talking about warez and other illegal stuff in #ubuntu. (i know you havent really talked about it, but if you were going to, stop :) )
[10:10] <jianshi> ale3hs, for instance if you use svn, you can disable cvs
[10:11] <jianshi> ale3hs, plus, you can get rid of ant editor if you don't use ant build stuff
[10:11] <Going> @Stormx2 I partitioned it using Partition Magic 8, and this is the first time I've plugged it into a Linux box, so I don't think it has a Linux file structure built in yet.
[10:11] <jianshi> ale3hs, it's all modular.
[10:11] <seife> dli_, now what
[10:11] <ompaul> istanbul only seems to copy the moves of the cursor and not show the windows of the apps started is the correct?
[10:11] <dli_> seife, what's eth1?
[10:11] <derek[] > tom80.. boot sector in BIOS?
[10:11] <tom80> yeah
[10:11] <Stormx2> Going: It won't have.
[10:11] <tom80> you should look at it
[10:11] <marco_> hey, can anyone tell me how to convert .wav to .mp3
[10:11] <Stormx2> Going: And it doesn't need it ;-)
[10:11] <doctormo> dli_: eth1 is ethernet interface 1
[10:11] <marco_> i mean, .mp3 to wav
[10:11] <derek[] > i don't know if there's anything relatedto it in bios
[10:11] <Ce_Dreaku> who can tell me how to install a printer? please, it is urgent
[10:12] <ale3hs> jianshi, how I do that?
[10:12] <tom80> wait a sec got something
[10:12] <Ce_Dreaku> You can change .mp3 to wav with audacity
[10:12] <doctormo> Ce_Dreaku: What kind of printer?
[10:12] <derek[] > tom80, k
[10:12] <seife> eth1 is the cable one
[10:12] <dli_> seife, post /var/log/kern.log
[10:12] <anyone> i can't
[10:12] <Going> @Stormx2 I can easily unplug it if I go to the desktop, click on the icon for the partition it does recoginize, and select "Unmount Volume"
[10:12] <Ce_Dreaku> HP Deskjet 3745
[10:12] <marco_> do i apt-get audacity
[10:12] <anyone> ask everyone else
[10:12] <ompaul> Ce_Dreaku, have you looked at system administration printing?
[10:12] <marco_> ?
[10:12] <seife> dli_, eth1 is the cable one
[10:12] <ale3hs> sorry robotgeek, i didnt know that
[10:12] <doctormo> Ce_Dreaku: By USB or Par?
[10:12] <Ce_Dreaku> yes and it is not in the list
[10:12] <anyone> marco_, :P
[10:12] <Ce_Dreaku> USB
[10:12] <Stormx2> Going: I meant physically unplug it.
[10:12] <robotgeek> marco_: you can also use mplayer to do that
[10:12] <cin_> hey, somethings wierd. When I go to Synaptic Manager and go to Repositories>Settings Mutiverse and Universal isn't there.
[10:12] <marco_> ohhhh, thanx guys
[10:12] <Stormx2> Going: Mounting / Unmounting is something different
[10:13] <ompaul> Ce_Dreaku, so click the bottom button of select it yourself and and see what happens
[10:13] <anyone> hi ompaul
[10:13] <dli_> seife: can you try "iwlist eth3 scan"
[10:13] <tom80> derek look here pls http://www.techzine.nl/message/127418 with pics, its a nice and clear turorial.
[10:13] <anyone> hi Stormx2
[10:13] <ompaul> anyone, could be you  :-)
[10:13] <Going> @Stormx2 Just noticed the private chat room...  will jump onto that.
[10:13] <derek[] > ok tom80. thx
[10:13] <seife> No scan results
[10:13] <anyone> ompaul, it's me! welp
[10:14] <tom80> just try a little
[10:14] <anyone> ompaul, remember? :P
[10:14] <ompaul> anyone, so you could be you :)
[10:14] <tom80> :P
[10:14] <tom80> good luck
[10:14] <Stormx2> anyone: Hi
[10:14] <anyone> now i'm getting confused
[10:14] <marco_> robotgeek_: i need to reinstall mplayer... do you know what command to use?
[10:14] <welp> that's better
[10:14] <welp> :D
[10:14] <doctormo> tom80: what language is that?
[10:14] <jianshi> ale3hs, go in the plugins folder, and take out whatever you don't need
[10:14] <derek[] > tom
[10:14] <ompaul> welp welcome back from confustion
[10:14] <doctormo> Ce_Dreaku: I have sent you a message if you still require help
[10:14] <cin_> ?
[10:15] <Ce_Dreaku> I think there is lag doctormo
[10:15] <derek[] > I've been through the installation :) i don't need its pics
[10:15] <Ce_Dreaku> I didn't receive much
[10:15] <seife> dli_, no scan results
[10:15] <derek[] > my problem is why did the grub installation on mbr fail
[10:15] <Ce_Dreaku> only this:  I can guide you here
[10:15] <Ce_Dreaku> doctormo that forum is getting a bit too buisy
[10:15] <doctormo> Ce_Dreaku: Erm, you should recieve it strait away, lag is not somthing that I know exists
[10:15] <ale3hs> jianshi, where is the default installed directory of eclipse ?? :)
[10:16] <dli_> seife: post your kern.log
[10:16] <Stormx2> doctormo: Might be his connection.
[10:16] <adrelita> hello :)
[10:16] <sorush20> guys is there way that I could download a full dvd iso and make sure that it is up to date via something like rsync?
[10:16] <palerma> hey,is there anyone using the last ubuntu in a ASUS A6?
[10:16] <seife> there is no kern.log in that folder
[10:16] <Going> @Stormx2 Are you receiving my messages in the private room?
[10:16] <Stormx2> Hi, adrelita!
[10:16] <marco_> Ce-Dreaku_: do you know the command to reinstall mplayer?
[10:16] <adrelita> hi ;)
[10:16] <Stormx2> Going: No
[10:16] <tom80> btw.. look at the function bootloader in setup
[10:16] <Stormx2> Going: Are you using XChat?
[10:16] <synic> anyone running firefox 1.5 with linux32 ?
[10:16] <Ce_Dreaku> marco: nope I don't
[10:16] <spikebike> yes
[10:16] <Going> @Stormx2 Eh, I'll stick to this then.
[10:16] <ompaul> Going, if your not registered with the nickserv you will not be able to send or recieve messages
[10:16] <ompaul> !register
[10:16] <ubotu> it has been said that register is type /msg nickserv help register
[10:16] <alilou> can any one tell me please, how to install ipw2100 driver on ubuntu, I am running ubuntu on kernel 2.6.10-5-386. I can not find the package kernel-headers for the kernel-image
[10:17] <palerma> i cant get my X working, it apears a dark blank screen
[10:17] <ompaul> Going, see that last message from ubotu it is for you
[10:17] <doctormo> palerma: any logs?
[10:17] <marco_> can someone help me reinstall mplayer?
[10:17] <Red-Sox> the ubuntu cds look nice... they came today, i already have ubuntu, but they made the cds look good
[10:17] <jianshi> ale3hs, program files
[10:17] <cin_> Anyone, is this command correct for installing Firestarter: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:17] <jianshi> ale3hs, but i usually customize
[10:17] <seife> dli_, there is no kern.log in that folder
[10:17] <jianshi> ale3hs, i gtg nice talking to you
[10:17] <Going> @ompaul Obotu?
[10:17] <palerma> doctormo, of course, the problem is that im in windows right now, and dunno how to use wireless in ubuntu
[10:18] <robotgeek> cin_: yup
[10:18] <doctormo> Ce_Dreaku: check the tabs you have, do you have a tab with my name on it?
[10:18] <Ce_Dreaku> Doctormo: Don't you see what I am writing in the private chat?
[10:18] <cin_> sweet!
[10:18] <Stormx2> Going: Ubotu is a bot ;D
[10:18] <Going> @Stormx2 Eh, one sec, ompaul just messaged me about obotu or something...  I may have to quickly register.
[10:18] <ompaul> Going, first off please don't use @ it means nothing in irc, second off the message is type>>> /msg nickserv help register <<<
[10:18] <seife> oh, dli_  i saw it, gimme a second im pasting
[10:18] <doctormo> palerma: wireless is dead easy, what device do you have?
[10:18] <Ce_Dreaku> Doctormo: I do have it and am writing in it
[10:18] <ompaul> Going, I did not message you - that is in the channel
[10:19] <palerma> isnt there any binary similar to xorgconf ore something to configure X server?
[10:19] <ompaul> Going, it is in front of almost 700
[10:19] <doctormo> palerma: yes
[10:19] <Stormx2> Going: Yeah, @ is used on some IRC clients to signify "operator" status, but that doesn't apply here really.
[10:19] <marco_> can someone what command to use to reinstall mplayer
[10:19] <Stormx2> !xorg
[10:19] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:19] <palerma> doctormo which is? :P
[10:19] <robotgeek> doctormo,palerma: the simplicity is dependant upon your device :)
[10:19] <Stormx2> palerma: up
[10:19] <Going> REGISTER Diverge
[10:19] <Stormx2> >.>
[10:19] <doctormo> xconfig last time I checked
[10:19] <existance> how can i fix: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:19] <existance> ?
[10:19] <Stormx2> No
[10:19] <Stormx2> And I suggest you don't use that pass
[10:20] <Stormx2> Going: Try /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[10:20] <Ce_Dreaku> doctormo: it is very odd, I did write in the chanel "very" and "can you see what I am writing" did you receive it?
[10:20] <palerma> Stormx2 what?
[10:20] <cin_> Holy crap! It worked, and it was my first successfull Linux installation
[10:20] <Stormx2> cin_: Glad to hear!
[10:20] <palerma> doctormo i cant find nothing like that in the firt instalation of ubuntu
[10:20] <trappist> existance: sudo apt-get install build-essential and if that doesn't work, unset CC
[10:20] <ompaul> Going the required  command would be >>/msg nickserv register (yourpasswordhere)<<  and don't use diverge we all saw that
[10:20] <cin_> Yeah, sorry. Just full of jollification.
[10:20] <existance> trappist: thanks
[10:21] <doctormo> Ce_Dreaku: can you join the forum #ce_dr?
[10:21] <Stormx2> Abecedarian: been a long time since you've been on IRC eh?
[10:21] <Ce_Dreaku> doctormo: I joined
[10:21] <ompaul> doctormo, #ubuntu-de ??
[10:22] <doctormo> ompaul: I'm English
[10:22] <cin_> Does anyone know of a partitioner for Ubuntu, something I could install through terminal or something?
[10:22] <Enyo> gparted
[10:22] <ompaul> doctormo, you did -dr not de DOH!
[10:22] <Enyo> or cfdisk
[10:23] <seife> dli_, the file has too much lines
[10:23] <marco_> my interenet browser isn't working and all i'm trying to do is reinstall mplayer, can anyone help me?
[10:24] <psusi> I installed apache2 and mantis but when I try to open the bug tracker in a web browser, I get an error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()
[10:24] <cin_> k, installing
[10:24] <seife> dli_, !
[10:24] <psusi> anyone have any ideas why php wouldn't be able to find mysql_connect()?
[10:24] <Stormx2> psusi
[10:24] <Stormx2> Try #php
[10:24] <dli_> seife: you can do "less /var/log/kern.log"
[10:24] <trappist> psusi: sudo apt-get install php4-mysql
[10:24] <psusi> well, it seems to be a specific problem with the ubuntu packages
[10:25] <alilou> Hi every one, I am strugling to install the wireless card driver for my HP laptop with a celeron m chip. I was told yeterday to get the ipw2200 , but still don't know how to install it...I can not find the package on my repoitories..is there any way I can install the driver using apt? thanks
[10:25] <La_PaRCa> psusi, you need to install either php4-mysql or php5-mysql depending on your php version
[10:25] <Stormx2> !lamp
[10:25] <ubotu> it has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:25] <Stormx2> ^^psusi^^
[10:25] <psusi> La_PaRCa: I did that
[10:25] <Techie_dude> what is a decent program for streaming webcam video off of my computer
[10:25] <gimmulf_> I installed java but   java -version says command not found... i installed: blackdown-j2re1.4, j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin, sun-j2re1.5 and jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin   im using an amd64cpu with Ubuntu Breezy 5.10  Please help me
[10:25] <trappist> alilou: you don't need any special packages for it.  the driver is part of the kernel.
[10:25] <psusi> actually, they are both installed
[10:25] <zcat[1] > Been trying to get opengl working with nvidia-legacy drivers - still not working, but now everything segfaults, not just glxdemo and stuff but mplayer (even when I'm plaing plain audio files..)
[10:25] <existance> whats the apt pkg name for GLiB?
[10:25] <La_PaRCa> psusi, um, make a php script that contains only phpinfo() and give me the addie to take a peek
[10:26] <zcat[1] > how do I even begin to track this down?
[10:26] <Techie_dude> DOes anyone know any ANY good webcam programs?
[10:26] <robotgeek> gimmulf_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 ?
[10:26] <cin_> I have windows and Ubuntu, I want to add BSD, I have 2 hard drives, 1 for ubuntu. So if I want to partition my ubuntu HD do I need to make a swap partition even though ones already there?
[10:26] <seife> i cant copy the lines, f0ckin shiat
[10:26] <alilou> trappist: so what do I do to install the module or for it to work
[10:26] <psusi> hrm.... let me see...
[10:26] <existance> whats the apt pkg name for GLiB?
[10:27] <trappist> alilou: lsmod | grep ipw to see if it's already loaded, which it should be.  if it's not, modprobe ipw2200
[10:27] <trappist> zcat[1] : by legacy you mean open source?
[10:27] <confrey> anybody knowing cn320 AP ?
[10:27] <alilou> trappist: no module found
[10:27] <skulrid> could anyone tell me the best ftp client for linux plz??
[10:27] <trappist> zcat[1] : the nv drivers or the nvidia drivers?
[10:27] <seife> dli_, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445404
[10:28] <zcat[1] > no, i mean old nvidia card.. closed-source driver that's kinda working but has never done glx
[10:28] <trappist> alilou: what version of ubuntu?  what kernel version?
[10:29] <seife> skulrid, gFTP
[10:29] <seife> dli_, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445404
[10:29] <seife> dli_, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445404
[10:29] <zcat[1] > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386-nvidia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy packages from universe/multiverse/imnotsurewhere
[10:29] <psusi> La_PaRCa: so make a file that is like "<% phpinfo() %>" right?
[10:29] <alilou> trappist: It is done  a message saying something about firmeware, ieeee and ipw2200 appeared
[10:30] <dli_> seife: sorry, you don't know what to look in log
[10:30] <seife> what i have to look
[10:30] <cin_> Should I get for Java Linux Self Extracting or Linux RPM?
[10:31] <La_PaRCa> psusi, yeah
[10:31] <erUSUL> !tell cin_ about java
[10:31] <cin_> THANKS
[10:32] <erUSUL> cin_, np
[10:32] <trappist> cin_: ubuntu doesn't use rpms
[10:32] <seife> dli_, help meh plz
[10:33] <Mitja> Does anyone know of a bootable floppy that supports udf iso-13346 CD format?
[10:34] <pozdiy> where to ask Nautilus to open a new folder in the same window, without multiplying unnecessary separate windows?
[10:34] <seife> dli_, hello
[10:34] <erUSUL> pozdiy, shift + [doubleclick] 
[10:35] <pozdiy> erUSUL, thanks, is it possible to ajust in the preferences somewhere - to have as default on doubleclick?
[10:35] <germancito> Hello
[10:35] <rambo3> pozidy -> settings -> edit-> preferances .> behaviour -> mark allways open in
[10:35] <erUSUL> pozdiy, i do not know search in google
[10:36] <pozdiy> erUSUL, thanks
[10:36] <Max566> Hi all
[10:36] <alumno> GFF
[10:36] <psusi> La_PaRCa: http://pastebin.com/445423 can't seem to get it to show it as html instead of plain text though
[10:36] <alumno> HI
[10:36] <alumno> HOW ARE YOU
[10:36] <Max566> Can anyone help me get my Netgear WG311v3 wireless card working in Ubuntu?
[10:36] <alilou> trappist : how can I find out about the kernel version on my system please?
[10:37] <erUSUL> alumno, do not shout please
[10:37] <rambo3> sudo uname -a
[10:37] <germancito> I can't print with my Hp Deskjet 810 c
[10:37] <erUSUL> alilou, uname -a
[10:37] <germancito> please help me
[10:37] <Stormx2> germancito: it installed?
[10:38] <rambo3> uname -r is clearer
[10:38] <germancito> Stormx2, I really don't know, how can i know it?
[10:38] <erUSUL> germancito, "i can't print" is not a good call for help
[10:38] <alilou> erUSUL: how about ubuntu version please?
[10:38] <Stormx2> germancito: System > Administration > Printing
[10:38] <germancito> yes, I know erUSUL
[10:38] <germancito> Breezy
[10:38] <pozdiy> is there any other 2-panel GUI file manager (I do not like NAutilus)?
[10:38] <erUSUL> germancito, System-Administration-Printers
[10:39] <germancito> ok
[10:39] <seife> SOMEonE HELP ME
[10:39] <germancito> let me see
[10:39] <sambagirl> is there anything out in the commercial world (not military or intel type stuff) that is larger than dvd? the size of the torrents these days requires larger then dvd size.
[10:39] <kemik> sambagirl: HD material
[10:39] <alilou> trappist: how do find out about ubuntu version please?
[10:40] <erUSUL> sambagirl, wait for blue ray discs or use iomega revo (35 GB)
[10:40] <robotgeek> alilou: cat /etc/issue
[10:40] <erUSUL> sambagirl, tapes
[10:40] <_jason> sambagirl, hard drives :D
[10:40] <erUSUL> alilou, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:40] <sambagirl> ray discs? what is that? maybe i need put on safety suit to use to prevent radiation :D
[10:40] <Max566> Anyone?
[10:41] <psusi> La_PaRCa: did you get that?
[10:41] <erUSUL> sambagirl, blue-ray discs next gen dvd
[10:41] <sambagirl> wow
[10:41] <sambagirl> ok
[10:41] <sambagirl> thanks
[10:41] <germancito> Stormx2, erUSUL, thanks a lot it worked!!
[10:41] <erUSUL> germancito, np
[10:41] <germancito> :)
[10:41] <ompaul> seife, I looked at that ubuntu.pastebin.com/445404 , however what is the question that goes with it, I don't know antything about ipv6
[10:41] <Stormx2> germancito: Happy to help
[10:42] <germancito> :)
[10:42] <alilou> trappist: the kernel version is 2.6.10-5-386 and the Ubuntuverson is  5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[10:42] <seife> why peoplle say ubuntu is great, u cant even set up a wireless network in it
[10:42] <marco_> if my computer is downloading hella quick and I dont know what process it is... how do I check/
[10:42] <robotgeek> seife: hmm, are u using ndiswrapper?
[10:42] <ompaul> seife, so you want wireless that was not obvious from your pastebin
[10:43] <ompaul> !tell seife about ndiswrapper
[10:43] <BooZee> where do you search for torrents ?
[10:43] <seife> ompaul, yes all i just want is that !
[10:43] <m4x> how do you restart services in Ubuntu?
[10:43] <ompaul> seife, have a look at the message that the bot sent you
[10:43] <seife> robotgeek, yes, i have it installed but dunno how to use
[10:43] <kemik> m4x /etc/init.d/<servicename> restart
[10:43] <n00bs_piss_me_of> /etc/init.d/(your service) restart
[10:43] <pozdiy> how can I search for a phrase in Synaptic package description- "" does not work?
[10:43] <erUSUL> m4x, /etc/init.d/<servce> restart
[10:43] <La_PaRCa> psusi, sorry, was away
[10:44] <robotgeek> seife: i have not used ndiswrapper, it works for some ppl tho.you might follow the link which ubotu sent you
[10:44] <ompaul> n00bs_piss_me_of, you could take it that your user name ain't exactly user friendly, would you care to change it to something a bit more agreeable?
[10:44] <randy> Anyone know where I can get info on making a cursor theme for ubuntu?
[10:44] <seife> bah
[10:44] <robotgeek> BooZee: wrong place to ask. you should be asking Google
[10:44] <seife> im gonna format
[10:45] <synic> seife: have fun.
[10:45] <seife> thanks
[10:45] <seife> bye
[10:45] <psusi> La_PaRCa: I pasted the output to pastebin, but it forces it to be displayed as text instead of letting the browser render the page
[10:45] <La_PaRCa> psusi, dont worry
[10:45] <ompaul> something_agreea, :-)
[10:45] <BooZee> robotgeek: yeah, but I saw sambagirl talks about it, so I asked
[10:45] <robotgeek> BooZee: hmm, i did not see that.
[10:46] <psusi> La_PaRCa: http://pastebin.com/445434 try that... it isn't pretty, but it's the important information
[10:46] <existance> how do i install Glib?
[10:46] <something_agreea> apt-get install glib
[10:46] <erUSUL> BooZee, sambagirl asked about big back up media (for torrents ;) )
[10:46] <Red-Sox> what is the limit for ShipIt Cds?
[10:47] <bhearsum> does Hoary still get updates?+
[10:47] <existance> something_agreea: it says that isnt a package
[10:47] <La_PaRCa> psusi, um, the mysql extension is not installed
[10:47] <homer> is it possible to implement brainf*ck as a shell scriping language?
[10:47] <something_agreea> update your sources.list
[10:47] <sambagirl> i was just curious i dont even know if ubuntu or kubuntu will support blue ray discs.
[10:47] <La_PaRCa> psusi, did you restart apache after you installed php4-mysql?
[10:48] <bhearsum> something_agreea: no, i mean, do applications get updated?
[10:48] <bhearsum> like firefox?
[10:48] <something_agreea> yes
[10:48] <existance> something_agreea: how?
[10:48] <alilou> trappist: the kernel version is 2.6.10-5-386 and the Ubuntuverson is  5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog", how do I do to working the wireless card please....nearly there
[10:48] <bhearsum> okay
[10:48] <something_agreea> edit this: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <erUSUL> sambagirl, it is a hardware issue not software
[10:48] <psusi> La_PaRCa: hrm.. I'll give that a try... but shouldn't the package manager do that automatically?
[10:49] <robotgeek> alilou: what wireless card do you have again?
[10:49] <something_agreea> and add some debian repositories
[10:49] <CaptainMorgan> I just installed Wine, do I need to log off/on for anything? I can't get a 2d game .exe to run yet after installing it
[10:49] <La_PaRCa> psusi, I dont think the php package restarts apache
[10:49] <sambagirl> oh so by the time they are released for sale someone will have drivers to support these medias for ubuntu.
[10:49] <Chousuke> CaptainMorgan: no need for that
[10:49] <erUSUL> sambagirl, nowadays your options are iomega revo and tapes
[10:49] <Chousuke> it may be that the game doesn't work :/
[10:49] <sambagirl> but tapes break.
[10:49] <Chousuke> wine is not the easiest to use app
[10:49] <sambagirl> but ok thanks
[10:49] <CaptainMorgan> I get "cannot display /media/Windows.... "
[10:49] <pder> I TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE CRAP
[10:49] <topyli> something_agreea: please don't tell people to use debian repositories
[10:49] <sambagirl> it not crap
[10:50] <psusi> La_PaRCa: aha... that seems to be it... it's getting further now... thnks...
[10:50] <psusi> silly me
[10:50] <Chousuke> sambagirl: Pay no attention to him
[10:50] <robotgeek> pder: instead of shouting, please be more constructive
[10:50] <La_PaRCa> psusi, wink
[10:50] <ompaul> existance, first do you want a compiler?
[10:50] <psusi> I just assumed the package manager would restart it if it needed to
[10:50] <unistd> How I get root after install ubuntu 5.10?
[10:50] <something_agreea> ok...
[10:50] <ompaul> !tell unistd about root
[10:50] <CaptainMorgan> you can mount Windows, and play the .exe from there right, ?
[10:50] <erUSUL> !tell unistd about root
[10:50] <topyli> unistd: no need, use sudo
[10:50] <CaptainMorgan> provided you have wine ?
[10:50] <_jason> sambagirl, hard drives like http://www.seagate.com/products/retail/portable/ would work
[10:50] <CaptainMorgan> and cheese ??
[10:50] <Chousuke> CaptainMorgan: no :/
[10:50] <CaptainMorgan> :()
[10:50] <sambagirl> i tried the breezy update online awhile back and it never completed so i reinstalled orignal ubuntu. has the remote update improved?
[10:50] <Chousuke> you should copy the game over to a linux partition
[10:50] <CaptainMorgan> damn.. that's gotta be it then
[10:50] <cunter> hi
[10:51] <CaptainMorgan> ok..
[10:51] <gratuit> what is the bot's name?
[10:51] <ompaul> unistd, have a look at the message form ubotu
[10:51] <cunter> why is there no vpnc-connect binary in the vpnc package, though the manpages says, i should ise it ?
[10:51] <sambagirl> thanks _jason
[10:51] <gratuit> ah
[10:51] <Chousuke> playing from NTFS or fat32 doesn't work at all
[10:51] <unistd> topyli, but for all I need of sudo?
[10:51] <sambagirl> brb
[10:51] <robotgeek> sambagirl: i've updated all my machines onlien
[10:51] <sambagirl> ok i will read the faq thanks
[10:51] <erUSUL> sambagirl, i have updated warty->hoary->breezy without major problems
[10:51] <topyli> unistd: just use "sudo command" to run a command as root. it will ask for your password, not root's
[10:52] <gimmulf_> robotgeek:  Hi, i was followng that amd64 java howto, but i get this error when im doing the: fakeroot make-jpkg j2re-1.4.2-02-linux-amd64.bin   Error: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find any packages for /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXSTf9Fe/install/usr/lib/j2re1.4-blackdown/lib/amd64/libXm.so.3 (libXm.so.3)dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library libXm (soname 3, path /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXXSTf9Fe/install
[10:52] <ompaul> something_agreea, first we use sudo to execute the apt-get so it is sudo apt-get install foo - there is no package glibc there is in fact as in debian build-essential that is the way to get a bundle of laughs
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> alrighty, having copied it to my Linux desktop.. it still doesn't work
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> blah
[10:52] <robotgeek> gimmulf_: no clue, sorry
[10:52] <erUSUL> gimmulf_, do not paste please
[10:52] <gimmulf_> ok
[10:52] <sambagirl> will ubuntu run on my toshiba 2032 ?
[10:52] <something_agreea> he could have been logged in as root
[10:52] <Stormx2> Find out.
[10:53] <unistd> topyli, but why 'sudo -s' not turn me root?
[10:53] <robotgeek> sambagirl: use the live cd
[10:53] <deltron> sambagirl: more than likely, test using the live cd, or live dvd
[10:53] <CaptainMorgan> where is Wine?? I don't see it listed in the alt-f1 options..
[10:53] <robotgeek> unistd: sudo -i, read the link
[10:53] <ompaul> something_agreea, chance would be a fine thing - no one uses root unless they enable it themselves we all use sudo :-)
[10:53] <sambagirl> it's a pda pocket pc telephone
[10:53] <ompaul> !tell something_agreea about sudo
[10:53] <sambagirl> i dont like windows to much trouble.
[10:53] <unistd> ok
[10:53] <CaptainMorgan> maybe Wine is out of stock?
[10:53] <CaptainMorgan> sorry
[10:54] <csb> hi all
[10:54] <ompaul> something_agreea, that is how we do it - msg ffrom the bot for ya
[10:54] <something_agreea> i know
[10:54] <mamoru> people, what package do i need to install to run scripts written in Java?
[10:54] <csb> hey is evolution a good email client? i currently use thunderbird, and i'm wondering if i should switch
[10:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mamoru about java
[10:54] <alilou> robertgeek: ipw2200 driver I used for integrated Wireless LAN Intel 802.11b/g Wireless (MPCI)
[10:54] <robotgeek> alilou: hmm, and it did not detect automagically and all?
[10:54] <mamoru> !javadebs
[10:54] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:54] <CaptainMorgan> csb, not much of a diff
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> I like TB tho
[10:55] <robotgeek> mutt owns them all :)
[10:55] <now3d> Hi, i asked in #kubuntu but I think this channel is more specific.  I would like to install mozilla-mail.. but I cant find it in my kubuntu 5.10 apt sources.. any tips please?
[10:55] <alilou> rootgeek: no it did not detect it automaticaly, I loaded the modules manualy!
[10:55] <NoUse> now3d you mean thunderbird?
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> Somebody gimme some Wine!! info
[10:55] <amaechler> csb: I like it. main difference is that you also have a organizer...which is pretty useful I think, at least I'm using it heavily
[10:55] <now3d> i've come up against a wall searching with apt-cache and google..
[10:56] <erUSUL> now3d, mozilla-thunderbird maybe
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> google pwns
[10:56] <now3d> NoUse: hmm, i still prefer the old suite.. mozilla 1.7 suite.. with mail news etc..
[10:56] <robotgeek> now3d: mozilla-mailnews is what u are looking for
[10:56] <luisito> hello
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> hi
[10:56] <robotgeek> alilou: okay, now it doesn't connect?
[10:56] <now3d> robotgeek: is mozilla-mailnews in the repository though..? I cant find it..
[10:56] <NoUse> now3d you can use synaptic in the future for a nice gui to search
[10:56] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell now3d about repos
[10:57] <robotgeek> now3d: enable universe
[10:57] <csb> what filetype does evolution save as? something standard like mbox?
[10:57] <existance> anyone know of a repository that has GLiB in it?
[10:57] <NoUse> existance you have glib already
[10:57] <ompaul> now3d, it is in universe
[10:57] <robotgeek> csb: i know that thundrbird uses mbox, i dunno evolution
[10:57] <shining> what do I need in the kernel for lvm ?
[10:58] <ompaul> now3d, you need to add the universe repo to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <shining> it's the first time I try it, so I don't know exactly what I need
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> /usr/local/bin/winecfg  <<< tried this, but it's not found! wtf? I just used synaptic to install it...
[10:58] <germancito> !root
[10:58] <ubotu> root is probably rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:58] <shining> ubuntu kernel works fine, but my custom one doesn't boot, it doesnt find the root device
[10:58] <existance> NoUse: then why am i getting errors when i try to make something?
[10:58] <csb> Captian: what are you trying to do? i just got wine working 2 days ago
[10:58] <NoUse> existance you need the dev package
[10:59] <csb> it's pretty awesome
[10:59] <now3d> ompaul, robotgeek: ok did that.. and there is a dep problem   mozilla-mailnews: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:59] <existance> NoUse: any idea where i can get that?
[10:59] <erUSUL> shining, you left an important option disbled...
[10:59] <NoUse> existance in apt/synaptic
[10:59] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell germancito about msgthebot
[10:59] <erUSUL> existance, buil-essential
[10:59] <existance> i already built essential
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> well, for starters, I used synpatic to install it.. then i suppose I can just run a .exe and it should run
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> but no
[10:59] <NoUse> existance yeah install the build-essential package
[10:59] <unistd> I liked of ubuntu
[10:59] <unistd> :)
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> then I checked winehq for config commands and tried one
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> nope
[11:00] <meheren> can someone tell me how to install real on my machine
[11:00] <csb> captian: ok...
[11:00] <ompaul> existance, >> sudo apt-get install build-essential <<
[11:00] <robotgeek> now3d: hmm, i had the same problem yesterday. found out that mozilla was already installed
[11:00] <csb> first, do you have winetools?
[11:00] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell meheren about restrictedformats
[11:00] <existance> i already have it
[11:00] <ompaul> now3d, sudo apt-get update and then try it
[11:00] <alilou> robotgeek: my wireless card is still not working...please kepp on help
[11:00] <csb> WINE needs other stuff to go along with it before anything works. winetools will install that stuff for you
[11:00] <mamoru> wiki.ubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats: "Sun's implementation of Java and Java plugin for browsers is also non-free."
[11:01] <mamoru> what do they mean by "non-free"?
[11:01] <CaptainMorgan> k, no - Installed the binaries and documentation... now Im installing the tools/setup/ and the rest of anything that has the letters 'wine' in it... hooya?
[11:01] <meheren> does ubuntu support built in wireless?
[11:01] <Agrajag> mamoru: just what they said, it's not Free software
[11:01] <robotgeek> alilou: i need to know what it's not doing right? my wireless card doesn't work isn't very descriptive
[11:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell meheren about wireless
[11:01] <CaptainMorgan> meheren I still can't get madwifi to work...
[11:01] <existance> i get this error :deb http://ftp2.jp.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main
[11:01] <existance> bah
[11:01] <csb> then, you can go to the directory where the install for the app you want, and type "wine XXXXX"
[11:01] <existance> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[11:01] <ompaul> mamoru, you can't do what you want with the software - you loose some of the 4 freedoms - check out free software on wikipedia
[11:01] <existance> when i try to ./configure
[11:01] <Agrajag> mamoru: Sun java is proprietary, closed-source
[11:01] <csb> where XXXX =  install.exe, or whatever the install command is
[11:01] <CaptainMorgan> ah... wine <game> ?
[11:01] <NoUse> existance whoa, why are you mixing debian repos in?
[11:01] <mamoru> ompaul, Agrajag  oh. Though it doesn't mean I have to pay for it
[11:02] <csb> then once it's installed you would type "wine app"...
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !java
[11:02] <NoUse> existance thats a sure fire way to break your box
[11:02] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:02] <existance> NoUse: accident, i'm not
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> so I need to install the .exe ? copying it to the desktop and trying it won't work ?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !javadebs
[11:02] <csb> where app is the app name
[11:02] <ubotu> methinks javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:02] <Agrajag> mamoru: no, it's gratis, just not free
[11:02] <ompaul> mamoru, correct and if they break it most likey you can't fix it ......
[11:02] <existance> NoUse: im trying to install xmms and i can't ./configure
[11:02] <csb> captian: first, download winetools and run all that stuff
[11:02] <NoUse> existance and why aren't you installing via apt or synaptic?
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> k
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> will do...
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> doing
[11:02] <existance> NoUse: i couldn't find GLIB in synaptic
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> done
[11:03] <erUSUL> existance, install from repositories
[11:03] <CaptainMorgan> .. let's se..
[11:03] <Agrajag> existance: why aren't you installing xmms from apt?
[11:03] <NoUse> existance I mean XMMS, xmms is in synaptic
[11:03] <mamoru> Agrajag, ompaul, thanks!
[11:03] <csb> then let's say you want to install Dreamweaver, like i did.
[11:03] <NoUse> existance sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:03] <GregAsche> Are there any video cards that won't work at all under linux?
[11:03] <existance> NoUse: ah..
[11:03] <erUSUL> ubuntu has xmms binaries
[11:03] <jrattner1> Anyone have expierence with a Pocket PC SyNCE Multisynce and Evolution?
[11:03] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gnomefreak about msgthebot
[11:03] <existance> cool :)
[11:03] <csb> you would go to the CD and type "wine setup.exe"...or whatever the install command is...that would start the install process
[11:03] <gnomefreak> robotgeek,  yes i know how
[11:03] <NoUse> existance always install the ubuntu binaries, comiling things from source when you don't know what you are doing is dangerious
[11:04] <erUSUL> GregAsche, almost any card can work at least as svga vga or vesa card
[11:04] <ompaul> existance, why are you trying to make software from source? you are making your own life hard if you try to do taht
[11:04] <csb> THEN once it's installed you would go to /home/username/.wine/c/program files/macromedia/dreamweaver/dreamweaver.exe
[11:04] <existance> ompaul: i went to the site and was following the readme...
[11:04] <csb> and you would type "wine dreamweaver.exe" from that dir
[11:04] <ompaul> existance, which site?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> is it possible to skip chmod for a .bin file and just go to fakeroot command?
[11:04] <GregAsche> ok, thanks'
[11:05] <dsas> jrattner1: yes, it sucks.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> chmod isnt working thats why i ask
[11:05] <existance> ompaul: xmms.org
[11:05] <Red-Sox> it says my ShipIt request is waiting for approval
[11:05] <FarrisG> Two questions: (1) I have about 40 servers that all have /home mounted from the same NFS export. Running "lsof" on the server running NFS does not show files open via nfsd. Is there anyway to centralize this so that I can get a list of all open files on the nfs server, taking into account the 40 servers that have that export mounted? (2) In times of very heavy write/read, is there any tool or daemon or monitor that will allow me to see i
[11:05] <Red-Sox> what does that mean?
[11:05] <egoplastiek> i've 'lost' things like 'add/remove programs'.... any idea how i can get them back?
[11:06] <ompaul> existance, while it would seem logical what you need to think is that package is common you know it is most likely available for ubuntu
[11:06] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: how many did you order?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, if you ordered outside of the packaged packages than they have to approve your order first
[11:06] <ompaul> existance, I will now get the bot to send you a message do this then install the binary for yourself and you will be up and running in no time
[11:07] <existance> ompaul: heh, i just switched over form windows, so im used to installing that way
[11:07] <Red-Sox> i ordered 100
[11:07] <alilou> robotgeek: sorry......iwconfig does not show me any wireless device."no wireless extentions" ..this is the only way I know on testing wireless card if working or not.
[11:07] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: i ordered 100
[11:07] <existance> ompaul: i got it to work with apt-get install xmms
[11:07] <Agrajag> see, there's the problem with linux. Everyone thinks it's complicated because every program's website tells you how to install from source, but never "If you're running {ubuntu|fedora|whatever}, use your package manager".
[11:07] <ompaul> existance, sudo apt-get was it not?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, thats why
[11:07] <existance> ompaul: already logged in as root :)
[11:07] <logical_mark> Hey guys. If I am already good with stuff like PHP, Visual Basic, and a little bit of c++ and java, how easy would it be to create small programs for linux? and using what?
[11:07] <ompaul> existance, not such a good idea
[11:07] <Agrajag> logical_mark: well VB is pretty much useless to you
[11:08] <gnomefreak> not vb lol
[11:08] <NoUse> existance http://help.ubuntu.com is a nice guide for beginnners
[11:08] <existance> ompaul: as in a sudo -s -H it
[11:08] <ompaul> existance, we have been doing this for a long time :-) just a tad counter intutive
[11:08] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: i canceled it, i dont REALLY need it too bad, how many fits for it not to have to be approved?
[11:08] <logical_mark> Agrajag: I bet to differ. I use Visual Basic all the time when I need to accomplish small tasks. I make the programs up in 15 minutes!
[11:08] <Agrajag> logical_mark: not in linux you won't.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> large portion of linux programs use C/C++ i think than java and python
[11:08] <logical_mark> Arajag: those are to be run on windows only of course
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> my game opens and the quickly closes... :-(
[11:08] <logical_mark> Arajag: beat me to it. Anyway, what do you suggest?
[11:09] <pirx> does anyone happen to know how to play files in rar archives with mplayer?
[11:09] <Agrajag> logical_mark: might I suggest Perl for small programs?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, there is a drop down with packages already set pick one
[11:09] <Agrajag> very small.
[11:09] <afabian> existance, binary packages usually make your life easier.  There are good reasons to go to the source every now and then.  Don't let the binary-packaging fanatics scare you.  Do it too much, and you'll learn the hard way the value of binary packages, and when to go which way. ;)
[11:09] <egoplastiek> i've 'lost' things like 'add/remove programs'.... any idea how i can get them back?
[11:09] <robotgeek> alilou: hmm, lsmod | grep ipw shows the module loaded?
[11:09] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i see if i got iptables or ipchains
[11:09] <logical_mark> Agrajag: I will also need the ability to connect to mySQL. Perl still an option?
[11:09] <Agrajag> matrix-ubuntu-c: you have iptables
[11:09] <ompaul> existance, so you get the greatest (some would say) GNU/Linux and rather that do things the way that it is easy you head off into some random direction, I know you can have it your way but burgers with sand are not my idea of fun :)
[11:10] <Agrajag> logical_mark: sure
[11:10] <Agrajag> there's all sorts of crap in CPAN, perl's library of libraries
[11:10] <gnomefreak> iptables are wrote into kernel if im not mistaken
[11:10] <existance> uhh why doesn't sudo cd (insert directory) work?
[11:10] <logical_mark> Agrajag: How easy is it to make a frontend?
[11:10] <alilou> robotgeek: all modules are loaded...!
[11:10] <Agrajag> logical_mark: python's a decent scripting language too
[11:10] <gnomefreak> existance, dont use sudo
[11:10] <matrix-ubuntu-c> so how do i get ipchains instead of iptables
[11:10] <gnomefreak> existance, cd Desktop something like that
[11:10] <Agrajag> I've never used mysql with perl myself, it shouldn't be hard though
[11:10] <existance> gnomefreak: i have to, im going to another partitation that is restricted
[11:10] <NoUse> existance because when cd exists, (right after you cd) it exits back to default permissions
[11:11] <ompaul> existance, cd Desktop
[11:11] <Agrajag> existance: sudo -i
[11:11] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: k, thx
[11:11] <sambagirl> is there a channel for video on ubuntu?
[11:11] <ompaul> existance, then sudo command
[11:11] <Agrajag> then do what you need to do as root
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, yw
[11:11] <mzinz> Could anyone help me out with mounting my windows drive in ubuntu?
[11:11] <erUSUL> matrix-ubuntu-c, why would you want to use a firewall tool from 2,2 kernels
[11:11] <robotgeek> alilou: it doesn't show up in network-admin then? System -> Admin -> networking?
[11:11] <Ce_Dreaku> Who can help me set up a HP deskjet 3745 printer in Ubuntu?
[11:11] <afabian> existance, sudo runs a command with the rights of another user.  cd is usually a shell built-in - not a command that sudo can execute with root privs.
[11:11] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how i do that to get ipchains
[11:11] <shadeofgrey> okay
[11:11] <Agrajag> matrix-ubuntu-c: you don't.
[11:12] <existance> afabian: so i need to login as root to do that then?
[11:12] <superchode> hrm. trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop - it keeps flashing 'killed' at me
[11:12] <Ce_Dreaku> Who can help me set up a HP deskjet 3745 printer in Ubuntu?
[11:12] <NoUse> superchode how old?
[11:12] <erUSUL> matrix-ubuntu-c, why would you want to use a firewall admin tool designed for 2,2 kernels??
[11:12] <mzinz> question: is it possible to mount windows dirs in ubuntu? Is it hadr?
[11:12] <Agrajag> ipchains is in linux 2.2, that's two minor revisions back, like 4-5 years or something
[11:12] <QRZ> matrix-ubuntu-c:  uname -r  <---  If that is 2.4 or greater, you've iptables.  Ipchains was the older netfilter configuration tool for the 2.2 kernels.
[11:12] <superchode> 233 methinks?
[11:12] <shadeofgrey> if i wnt to builld a mail server using ubuntu as the base.... what app should i use -- assuming that I DONT want to use HULA because its still unstable
[11:12] <gnomefreak> wouldnt he have to compile a 2.2 source-code and lose breezy that way?
[11:12] <superchode> pentium 1
[11:12] <Agrajag> mzinz: yes it's possible, no it's not hard
[11:12] <now3d> ompaul: just did apt-get update and unfortunately same dep problem :(
[11:12] <NoUse> superchode I doubt you can get ubuntu on there
[11:12] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to run Ennemy territory ? :\
[11:12] <mzinz> Agrajag, how would i go about doing it? I have a dir created /mnt/windows
[11:13] <afabian> existance, no; when you use sudo, it becomes a child of the bash (shell) process, and the command you're executing becomes a child of sudo.  They inherit information, like the current working directory and the environment.  So, you just cd like normal, and when you use 'sudo', it will be working in that directory.
[11:13] <erUSUL> Ce_Dreaku, System>Administration>Printing
[11:13] <Agrajag> mzinz: one second
[11:13] <mzinz> Agrajag, np
[11:13] <sorush20> !java
[11:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:13] <now3d> ompaul: I wonder if apt-get install mozilla-mailnews works for you?
[11:13] <sorush20> !javadebs
[11:13] <ubotu> it has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:13] <existance> afabian: so then why doesn't sudo cd (directory) work?
[11:13] <alilou> robotgeek: only modem and ethernet card are showing!...
[11:13] <sorush20> what is the java package name I can download using apt-get
[11:13] <sorush20> ?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> im willing to bet sorush20  is having same issue as me lol
[11:13] <afabian> existance, 'cd' is a command that's built into the shell; there's no /bin/cd or /usr/bin/cd for sudo to execute.
[11:14] <ompaul> now3d, it does
[11:14] <Agrajag> /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    users,ro,umask=0222,nls=utf8,exec      0 0
[11:14] <Agrajag> /mnt/windows /chroot/mnt/windows none bind 0 0
[11:14] <robotgeek> alilou: okay, gimme a moment now
[11:14] <Agrajag> mzinz: the first line there
[11:14] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  you cant
[11:14] <sorush20> gnomefreak: what is your problem
[11:14] <Agrajag> ignore that second one
[11:14] <erUSUL> existance, cd is not a program is an internal command of bash (the shell)
[11:14] <afabian> existance, you could do sudo bash -c 'cd /' or some such, making a shell execute 'cd'.  But there is no cd command in the filesystem.
[11:14] <ompaul> now3d, 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 0 <<< version
[11:14] <now3d> ompaul: Hmm, i wonder if there is something else I need to do..
[11:14] <mzinz> Agrajag, thanks, hang on
[11:14] <gnomefreak> i cant get chmod to work for java :)
[11:14] <Agrajag> mzinz: take that first line I pasted and put it in /etc/fstab. Change /dev/hda1 to point to your windows partition
[11:14] <erUSUL> !tell mzinz about windowdrives
[11:14] <ompaul> now3d, you have some backports or something funny in there
[11:14] <gib8> hi
[11:14] <Agrajag> mzinz: then you can run sudo mount -a to mount it
[11:14] <gib8> i have a problem with my monitor
[11:15] <existance> afabian: but you just said i didn't need to login as root to be able to cd as root..
[11:15] <gnomefreak> now3d,  paste the output you get for sudo apt-get update in pastebin please
[11:15] <mzinz> Agrajag, most windows drives default at hda1, correct?
[11:15] <now3d> ompaul: I installed 2nights ago from kubuntu 5.1, then did apt-get upgrade
[11:15] <ompaul> now3d, pop your /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntulinux.nl and lets have a look
[11:15] <gib8> i can not use the full monitor and i have no buttons to move the view or to adjust it :(
[11:15] <robotgeek> alilou: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:15] <Agrajag> mzinz: yeah, if it was just windows by itself to start
[11:15] <gib8> is there a program to do this?
[11:15] <now3d> ompaul: ok, will do, thanks!
[11:15] <afabian> existance, I meant to convey that you don't need to 'cd' as root; when you use sudo to execute a command as root, it will be as if you were already root and already in the directory you were in as the regular user.
[11:15] <erUSUL> existance, what's the problem cd as a normal user an run the comands you need with sudo
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ompaul, does he have the cdrom source in there?
[11:15] <cmarqu> Hi all. I have a strange problem: My loopback interface does not come up after boot, despite me having the right content in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:15] <mzinz> Agrajag, ok cool.  I don't have a file called fstab in /etc/, is that weird?
[11:16] <Agrajag> mzinz: so you should be able to just put that line in fstab and mount it
[11:16] <sorush20> what is the deb java pacakge?
[11:16] <Agrajag> uh
[11:16] <sorush20> !javadebs
[11:16] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:16] <Agrajag> yeah that's damn near impossible
[11:16] <superchode> hrm. installer keeps killing the process while extracting files from the install cd
[11:16] <gnomefreak> its bin not deb
[11:16] <existance> erUSUL: im attempting to get to another partition that is restricted from normal users..
[11:16] <Agrajag> you're sure you don't have /etc/fstab?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> that i know of
[11:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, we will know in a second when he shows us the source :)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03s02.html
[11:16] <NoUse> superchode you don't have enough ram
[11:16] <existance> erUSUL: thus the need of cd
[11:16] <Agrajag> mzinz: you didn't delete it or something did you?
[11:16] <superchode> NoUse: that's a possibility - it warned that it was going into low memory mode
[11:16] <mzinz> Agrajag, no, i haven't touched anything
[11:16] <Agrajag> mzinz: you wouldn't be able to boot without a file system table
[11:16] <now3d> ompaul: /etc/apt/sources.list:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5277
[11:17] <superchode> thought there was 128 in this thing, though
[11:17] <sorush20> !java
[11:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:17] <Agrajag> mzinz: are you on the liveCD or did you install ubuntu?
[11:17] <NoUse> superchode I seriously doubt it, not on a P1
[11:17] <afabian> existance, then start a shell as root.  I usually use 'sudo su'.  BUT you might be better of fixing the permissions.
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i knew it
[11:17] <WildPenguin> existance, use 'sudo -s'
[11:17] <erUSUL> existance, sudo -i and after that run the cd and do whatever you need to do then type exit (another command of bash)
[11:17] <gnomefreak> lol now3d  take out the cdrom entry in sourceslist and wait there might be more
[11:17] <mzinz> Agrajag, oh ok nvm there it is
[11:17] <mzinz> Agrajag, how would i open it
[11:17] <existance> WildPenguin: i know, but i wanted to do it without logging in as root
[11:17] <Agrajag> ok
[11:17] <Agrajag> mzinz: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:18] <superchode> heh. you're right. looks like 32mb
[11:18] <superchode> ouch
[11:18] <eobanb> lol
[11:18] <Agrajag> paste that line in, and save it.
[11:18] <NoUse> superchode look into damn small linux
[11:18] <erUSUL> !tell mzinz about windowdrives
[11:18] <existance> afabian: its a windows partition, will changing the permissions mess it up?
[11:18] <now3d> gnomefreak: Hmm, i thought # would comment that out...?
[11:18] <eobanb> debian tends to work all right with 32 MB
[11:18] <gnomefreak> now3d, also you either need to # to universe or not you cant run it both ways
[11:18] <existance> afabian: for windows, not ubuntu
[11:18] <gnomefreak> i did too now3d  but it doesnt work that way :(
[11:18] <eobanb> fluxbox works great with 32 MB
[11:18] <lilliput> hi all
[11:19] <eobanb> except one or two programs max at a time, though.
[11:19] <c01001> hi all
[11:19] <erUSUL> !tell mzinz about windowsdrives
[11:19] <now3d> gnomefreak: ah.. do i need double? ##
[11:19] <ompaul> now3d, no just 1
[11:19] <gnomefreak> now3d, i suggest leaving off the # infront of universe
[11:19] <WildPenguin> existance, sudo uses the same environment as sudo -s, the difference is you can use 'cd' with the later
[11:19] <c01001> i search a hack sector.....
[11:19] <sorush20> I'm looking for the java runtime environment
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ompaul, it doesnt work with the cdrom source i tried that 3 times over the past few weeks
[11:19] <erUSUL> !java
[11:19] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:19] <now3d> gnomefreak: and what prefix to the cdrom line..?
[11:19] <afabian> existance, well, in general, you want the permissions and ownership right on the mount point, (I think), and then use -o owner with mount, or some such.
[11:20] <Max[1] > hello
[11:20] <gnomefreak> now3d,  just delete it
[11:20] <CaptainMorgan> well, my app is completely frozen under wine... :(
[11:20] <mzinz> Agrajag, ok, i edited and saved the file.  When i sudo mount -a I get: mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[11:20] <afabian> existance, frankly, it's a hassle, and I tend to just use the 'big club' gratitiously, and don't know exactly how to do it 'the right way.'
[11:20] <existance> WildPenguin: yes, but sudo -s logins in, while sudo just executes the command
[11:20] <Abecedarian> Hmmm, does anyone here know why RhythmBox on a Live CD version of Ubuntu is refusing to play mp3s?
[11:20] <Max[1] > were can i guet help?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> now3d,  you have the other repos you dont need the cdrom one anymore
[11:20] <Abecedarian> Does it simply come with no drivers?
[11:20] <ompaul> now3d, I approve of that :-)
[11:20] <Agrajag> mzinz: then windows is not on /dev/hda1
[11:20] <c01001> java
[11:20] <c01001> ??
[11:20] <Agrajag> mzinz: Are you using SCSI or SATA drives by any chance?
[11:20] <alilou> robotgeek:the command opened up a file with detail about all the nic are on the system. as well as info regaring the eth0, its ip, dns..ect here is what the output for the wireless card.....his is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces......# They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem....mapping hotplug.....script grep map eth0
[11:20] <mjr> Abecedarian, mp3 is a restricted format and the support doesn't ship by default
[11:20] <mzinz> Agrajag, sATA
[11:20] <Agrajag> mzinz: change it to /dev/sda1
[11:21] <mzinz> Agrajag, hehe :)
[11:21] <worldmaster0> do you hae 2 pay for it
[11:21] <c01001> german people hier?
[11:21] <afabian> gratuitously, rather
[11:21] <worldmaster0> for mp3 support i mean
[11:21] <ompaul> !de
[11:21] <ubotu> hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:21] <c01001> de ja??
[11:21] <worldmaster0> lol\
[11:21] <Agrajag> mzinz: so does that work?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> give me a damn .bin file and im lost :(
[11:21] <worldmaster0> idk german
[11:21] <trappist> !de
[11:21] <mzinz> Agrajag, yep!
[11:21] <now3d> gnomefeak: ok, thanks, so do i need to change any lines other than remove the cdrom one from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5277
[11:21] <Agrajag> mzinz: awesome
[11:21] <gnomefreak> now3d,  yes
[11:21] <Agrajag> mzinz: bear in mind you can't write to ntfs.
[11:22] <mzinz> Agrajag, and will that mount every time i start ubuntu?
[11:22] <mzinz> Agrajag, np
[11:22] <Max[1] > Q:im stuck in the middle of a ubuntu install and dont know how to partion? can anebody run me throught?
[11:22] <existance> how can i get to a directory that has a space in it?
[11:22] <Red-Sox> does 32-bit ubuntu on AMD 64 FX X-2 run faster then on a regular 32-bit
[11:22] <Red-Sox> ?
[11:22] <Agrajag> mzinz: yeah, it's automatic now
[11:22] <erUSUL> ubotu: tell worldmaster0 about mp3
[11:22] <mzinz> Agrajag, thanks for all of your help, really
[11:22] <gnomefreak> now3d,  you need to decide if you want to enable universe you have 1 not # and the rest are
[11:22] <_jason> existance, put a backslash before the space
[11:22] <Agrajag> no problem
[11:22] <shining> erUSUL: I guess so, but which option is my question :)
[11:22] <trappist> existance: escape the space with a \ or use tab completion
[11:22] <robotgeek> alilou: hmm, add the line, without quotes 'iface eth1 inet dhcp'
[11:22] <WildPenguin> existance, use '\ ' to indicate space
[11:22] <existance> kdokey
[11:22] <trappist> existance: like cd My\ Documents
[11:22] <ompaul> gnomefreak, he needs it for the package he wants
[11:23] <gnomefreak> now3d, take the # away from all the universe repos ion there
[11:23] <shining> erUSUL: as I said, it's certainly a LVM related option, since it's the first time I use that
[11:23] <gnomefreak> in*
[11:23] <erUSUL> existance, you have to "escape" the space "dir\ dir" for a directory named "dir dir"
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[11:23] <Abecedarian> mmmkay, thanks.  I can understand the need for legal compliance etc, but I doubt that I'm the first person whose first though on loading Ubuntu was "Time for some music..."
[11:23] <shining> and never built a kernel for it
[11:23] <lilliput> I got a pb with one of my hdd, the bios doesn't want to boot on the MBR, I tried grub, install-mbr, and dd, but still same error from the bios (boot Failure)
[11:23] <johnis> hi
[11:23] <now3d> gnomefreak: ok, sorry, i do not understand.  Do you mean I should leave universe line as it is, but add # before other deb lines..?
[11:23] <trappist> Abecedarian: doesn't everybody rip their music to ogg these days?
[11:24] <alilou> robotgeek: do I add it after the meaage stated before , or does not matter?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> now3d,  no i mean get rid of the # infront of the universe lines all of them
[11:24] <ompaul> Abecedarian, use ogg its free
[11:24] <lilliput> is there by any chance a way to get it working (only the mbr have pb I can mount & read data)
[11:24] <NoUse> !tell Abecedarian about mp3
[11:24] <robotgeek> alilou: just add it with the other iface's ? (tho, it doesn't matter,i think)
[11:24] <psusi> lilliput: eh?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> now3d,  just the universe ones not the backports or multiuniverse
[11:24] <psusi> lilliput: what does pb stand for?
[11:24] <Abecedarian> Yep, I actually have a few ogg files which I only thought to play after you told me why mp3 was disabled.
[11:24] <lilliput> psusi, problem sorry
[11:24] <robotgeek> is flac free?
[11:24] <now3d> gnomefeak: ok, I have it like this now: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5278
[11:25] <mzinz> Does the music player not play .mp3s?
[11:25] <psusi> lilliput: ohh... well what exactly do you mean it doesn't want to boot it?  what is the exact message the bios gives?
[11:25] <lilliput> the one when it doesn't found any media
[11:25] <lilliput> to boot on
[11:25] <mwe> mzinz: you probably need the right codecs
[11:25] <psusi> lilliput: you only have a single hard drive?
[11:25] <lilliput> psusi, but right jumper
[11:25] <gnomefreak> now3d,  the last 2 lines that are the universe ones you can take the # away from them
[11:26] <gnomefreak> now3d, once you take the # away from last 2 lines go and run sudo apt-get update
[11:26] <now3d> gnomefreak: ah ok. did not see them down there
[11:26] <ompaul> gnomefreak, considering the work your doing if I was doing that I would find out if they wanted multiverse
[11:26] <mzinz> mwe, where could i get an mp3 codec for it?
[11:26] <erUSUL> robotgeek, flac is free yes
[11:26] <worldmaster0> ubotu: tell worldmaster0 about mp3
[11:26] <worldmaster0> ubotu: tell mzinz about mp3
[11:26] <ginvent> What does the line in the makefile patch mean? @@ -50,10 +50,14 @@
[11:26] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul good point
[11:26] <erUSUL> !mp3
[11:26] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[11:26] <shining> do I need ram disk for lvm?
[11:27] <lilliput> psusi, no but I want to boot on that one (it's a small tower and place only for a cdrom and hdd - and was transfering all the data .. )
[11:27] <robotgeek> erUSUL: then flac > ogg, as flac is lossless?
[11:27] <mwe> mzinz: follow the link from ubotu above
[11:27] <Agrajag> ogg is not a sounds codec, just a container.
[11:27] <Stormx2> what is i636 and i363?
[11:27] <psusi> lilliput: how did you install grub?
[11:27] <erUSUL> shining, no but is neccesary for initrd i think
[11:27] <Agrajag> you can encapsulate FLAC in an ogg file
[11:27] <Agrajag> but usually you use Vorbis
[11:27] <erUSUL> robotgeek, i guess so
[11:27] <now3d> gnomefeak: ok, this is what i have now: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5280
[11:28] <shining> erUSUL: yep but I want to avoid it
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  only issue there is he only has the backported multis in there not the archive ones and my website may not be best example of sourcves list lol
[11:28] <mzinz> mwe, thanks guys
[11:28] <robotgeek> Agrajag: thanks
[11:28] <lilliput> from my old system did a dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc (hda old - hdc new) did want to boot so from hda I did a chroot on hdc .. and grub-install )
[11:28] <lilliput> it didn't work
[11:28] <gnomefreak> now3d,  ok the errors should be gone
[11:28] <johnis_> is it possible to hget an animated login screen?
[11:28] <robotgeek> alilou: you still here?
[11:28] <CaptainMorgan> what's the app under linux that reads .pdf's ?
[11:29] <testmachine> gpdf
[11:29] <trappist> acroread!
[11:29] <psusi> lilliput: unless you copy the entire hard drive with dd, youc an't just dd the MBR and have it boot
[11:29] <lilliput> so I did a install-mbr to see if it was going to print mbr on the screen
[11:29] <CaptainMorgan> I want to convert a .xls to pdf
[11:29] <Agrajag> CaptainMorgan: evince is one
[11:29] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[11:29] <erUSUL> Stormx2, i686 intel pentiun III onwards, i386 intel 386 onwards
[11:29] <now3d> gnomefeak: this is the output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5281  unfortunately same problem.. :(
[11:29] <robotgeek> CaptainMorgan: evince,xpdf
[11:29] <Agrajag> CaptainMorgan: so you want to WRITE a pdf, or READ one?
[11:29] <trappist> CaptainMorgan: use openoffice.  (save as != read)
[11:29] <psusi> lilliput: reinstall grub
[11:29] <kimitaka> Does anyone have wallpaperzapper working?
[11:29] <CaptainMorgan> convert to one
[11:29] <lilliput> psusi, I did it ..
[11:29] <CaptainMorgan> so yea, write
[11:29] <mindamp> im looking for a one line adduser script
[11:29] <Agrajag> CaptainMorgan: yeah, openoffice then
[11:29] <gnomefreak> now3d,  open synaptic and click on fix broken packages
[11:30] <robotgeek> mindamp: man adduser
[11:30] <gnomefreak> now3d,  it may be in tools or file or edit i cant remember
[11:30] <mcp_dk> does anyone know of a good tool to convert avi files to a more lightweight format lige mpeg
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ompaul, is that the right command for that package?
[11:30] <mindamp> robotgeek...
[11:30] <mindamp> i was actually looking for a one-liner for passwd
[11:30] <mindamp> anyone have any ideas?
[11:31] <lilliput> psusi, that'swhy It tried install-mbr, it create a mbr for windows - but when doing it .. you see MBR on the top corner, and the bios didn't even execute the mbr :( )
[11:31] <ompaul> gnomefreak, don't know synaptic that well (came from the other apt get world via a long and funny route)
[11:31] <lilliput> psusi, does it make sence ?
[11:31] <korhalf> there we go
[11:31] <mindamp> anyone?
[11:31] <fissy> mcp_dk, if you're confident with the command line, mencoder is very powerful and is in synaptic
[11:31] <mindamp> find this hard to believe...
[11:32] <Stormx2> how do I get permission when mouting drives
[11:32] <now3d> gnomefreak: ok, it said it had fixed dep problems, do i need to save the fix?
[11:32] <psusi> lilliput: not quite... where does windows come in at all?
[11:32] <Stormx2> there is some option like umask=0000
[11:32] <erUSUL> mindamp, use adduser with the apropiate switchs
[11:32] <SEJeff> Stormx2, You ask nicely
[11:32] <fissy> mcp_dk, otherwise, you might want to try and install a front end to it, gmencoder, which i think you can get on gnomefiles.org
[11:32] <ompaul> gnomefreak, under "edit" fix broken packages
[11:32] <Stormx2> SEJeff: That sarcasm? :-\
[11:32] <fissy> mcp_dk, not too sure how useful the front end is though
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[11:32] <SEJeff> Stormx2: Yes :-)
[11:32] <Stormx2> SEJeff: >.>
[11:32] <now3d> gnomefreak: when i try to install mozilla-mailnews from synaptic it also has the dep problem :(
[11:32] <lilliput> psusi, was just to tried a clean and formated MBR , which I used in the past through install-mbr
[11:32] <SEJeff> Stormx2: Try the uid=1000 option
[11:33] <Stormx2> SEJeff: I usually cut straight to the point
[11:33] <mindamp> erUSUL... thats not gonna cut it
[11:33] <Stormx2> SEJeff: Thanks :)
[11:33] <mindamp> PASSWD
[11:33] <mcp_dk> thanks fissy. I am not to shy with the command line
[11:33] <mcp_dk> allready does some image resizing
[11:33] <psusi> lilliput: this hard drive isn't a western digital is it?
[11:33] <lilliput> maxtor
[11:33] <gnomefreak> now3d, are you running ubuntu?
[11:33] <SEJeff> Stormx2: First, type id in the terminal to see your user id -u. Chances are that it is 1000
[11:33] <lilliput> mm why western ?
[11:33] <mzinz> !tell mzinz universe
[11:33] <now3d> gnomefreak: i installed from kubuntu 5.10 breezy install CD 2 days ago..
[11:34] <Stormx2> SEJeff: Hmm, I heard that 0000 worked well ;-)
[11:34] <logical_mark> Hey guys what is a good dynamic ip service similar to no-ip.com but with a linux program to update the domain?
[11:34] <mzinz> how do i tell about universe
[11:34] <psusi> hrm... because most drives you can set to be the master and they work in a single drive configuration... WD has a special jumper position for master but single... the normal master position won't work without a slave
[11:34] <gnomefreak> now3d, type in terminal mozilla -version
[11:34] <SEJeff> Stormx2: umask=0000 and uid=1000 are two TOTALLY different options
[11:34] <Stormx2> I'm gonna install Firefox 1.5 methinks
[11:34] <gnomefreak> let me know what output you get
[11:34] <psusi> lilliput: can you boot grub from some other meidia?
[11:34] <alilo1> alilou: robotgeek: sorry I got disconnected done...I run ifconfig eth1 up ...an error come up: no such device...?!
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Stormx2,  ive only heard bad things so far about it
[11:35] <SEJeff> Stormx2: umask just sets the default permissions. uid=1000 makes you the owner and gives you permissions without changing anything crazy like the umask
[11:35] <mzinz> how do i install multiverse?
[11:35] <mindamp> im looking for a passwd one-liner
[11:35] <insipid> how is ubuntu pronounced =D
[11:35] <mindamp> can anyone help?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mzinz about sources
[11:35] <erUSUL> !tell mzinz about repos
[11:35] <now3d> gnomefreak: ok, i had to install mozilla-browser:  it says Mozilla 1.7.12, Copyright (c) 2003-2004 mozilla.org, build 2005101313
[11:35] <ompaul> Stormx2, can you type system rebuild?
[11:36] <Stormx2> ompaul: Hmm?
[11:36] <lilliput> psusi, I can do from a usb key I guess but you will understand that is not really the best solution ever
[11:36] <gnomefreak> now3d,  ok thats good ummmmmmmmm your using kubuntu why are your repos ubuntu?
[11:36] <lilliput> psusi, that's why I'm asking here
[11:36] <guile> !repos
[11:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:36] <robotgeek> alilo1: no probs, modprobe ipw2200 (or apporpriate) and look in dmesg | less (scroll till end using page down) and look if loaded correctly
[11:36] <germancito> Hello, I have a little problem
[11:36] <gnomefreak> now3d,  i dont know if kubuntu offers same packages as ubuntu i assume they do but i dont know for sure
[11:36] <mzinz> For some reason I am constantly getting REALLY long hangs in firefox.  Both versions.  It happens every time i attempt to load a new page, any idea why/
[11:36] <psusi> lilliput: try booting to the grub command line however you can and see if it sees the hard drive
[11:36] <now3d> gnomefreak: hmm, not sure.. i did not change them..
[11:37] <now3d> gnomefreak: I was runnning sarge before, but my HD got bad sectors, so i thought I would try kubuntu on a new drive i bought
[11:37] <lilliput> psusi, if it does what I am doing ?
[11:37] <lilliput> boot on it ?
[11:37] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: Bad things about ff 1.5? like what?
[11:37] <germancito> I wnat to change my machine name, i mean the name that appears: myname@mymachinename:~$
[11:37] <pityon> Hello - How to install on Qosmio G20? No hard drive detected
[11:37] <lilliput> on the partition or the MBR ?
[11:37] <psusi> lilliput: if it does, then you know you just didn't get the MBR installed right... if it doesn't, then your bios doesn't like the drive
[11:38] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: I heard it runs faster than the 5.10 preinstalled version
[11:38] <now3d> gnomefreak: which package version is mozilla-browser in your unbuntu install..?
[11:38] <meheren> can someone recommend a good spyware/adware removal for ubuntu? also a good virus protector
[11:38] <gnomefreak> i dont remember off hand but sev was saying it the other day
[11:38] <germancito> how can I do that?
[11:38] <lilliput> psusi, oki I see
[11:38] <Stormx2> meheren: spyware/adware on ubuntu?!
[11:38] <gnomefreak> 1.0.7-not sure
[11:38] <erUSUL> mindamp, use adduser with the apropiate switchess in PASSWD use `otp -n1 | awk '{print $2}`
[11:38] <mzinz> Am I the only one who has severely long loading times in firefox? Even on 1.5?
[11:38] <jbroome> heh
[11:38] <pityon> does anybody no what to do if NO HARD DRIVE DTECTED ????????
[11:38] <robotgeek> erUSUL: don't do his homework :)
[11:38] <QRZ> germancito:  /etc/hostname probably
[11:38] <eternalist> pityon, kernel panic asshole :)
[11:38] <eternalist> ahah jk
[11:38] <psusi> pityon: yea... plug in a hard drive
[11:38] <robotgeek> eternalist: language
[11:38] <eternalist> psusi, lol
[11:38] <psusi> hehehe
[11:38] <eternalist> robotgeek, i know i know, humanity to otheres
[11:38] <gnomefreak> psusi, lol
[11:39] <gnomefreak> try the /mnt command?
[11:39] <meheren> is there a good spyware/adware remvole for ubuntu alos a good virus protector?
[11:39] <robotgeek> eternalist: we are really serious about it
[11:39] <erUSUL> robotgeek, ;) i couldn't help myself
[11:39] <germancito> thanks QRZ
[11:39] <QRZ> germancito:  np
[11:39] <jbroome> meheren: they not a problem in the linux world
[11:39] <robotgeek> erUSUL: come on! let him learn
[11:39] <erUSUL> meheren, you do not need such a thing in ubuntu
[11:39] <eternalist> robotgeek, I understand..
[11:39] <pityon> no, Vector LInux and SuSe recognize it and install - Ubuntu and Debian don't see hdd (sda)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> meheren,  linux doesnt have all that crap
[11:39] <meheren> ok...
[11:39] <meheren> if you say so...
[11:39] <germancito> QRZ, But nothing changes, maybe after rebooting...
[11:39] <meheren> wadabout firewall?
[11:40] <meheren> any good firewalls?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> wrote into kernel
[11:40] <gnomefreak> called iptables
[11:40] <jbroome> iptables
[11:40] <trappist> meheren: ipkungfu
[11:40] <meheren> kungfu? huh funny ok thx
[11:40] <QRZ> germancito:  "sudo hostname <new_name>" probably
[11:40] <gnomefreak> firewall is wrote in kernel i havent had to change any setting so i dont screw with the gui apps
[11:41] <gnomefreak> now3d,  im asking on #kubuntu about the sources list and yet still no answer
[11:41] <now3d> gnomefreak: ok, thanks for your help!
[11:42] <gnomefreak> now3d,  not a problem waiting for an email anyway :)
[11:42] <ompaul> meheren, is it a firewall for ubuntu?
[11:42] <trappist> gnomefreak: the packet filtering functionality is in the kernel.  you're not automatically firewalled.
[11:42] <Ce_Dreaku> Who can help me set up a HP deskjet 3745 printer in Ubuntu?
[11:42] <meheren> ?
[11:42] <meheren> ompaul: not really understanding what your asking
[11:42] <gnomefreak> trappist,  you set it during install atleast i remember it asking what i wanted to let through
[11:42] <ompaul> meheren, you refer to a firewall is it for an ubuntu installed system?
[11:42] <meheren> yes
[11:42] <alilo1> robotgeek: modprobe does not give any output...lsmod |grep ipw2200 shows the following:... ipw2200 ---- 66156  0.....firmware_class-----9728  1 ipw2200.....ieee80211----- 21252  1 ipw2200, would this help?
[11:42] <now3d> gnomefreak: I was thinking of filing it as a bug.. but they require email confirmation.. and I cant get that workng without mailnews! :(  maybe i shoudl try with a web one
[11:43] <Paradosso> anyone can tell me the terminal command to get a printscreen?
[11:43] <silent_scream> how can i change the default media player ?
[11:43] <_jason> trappist, isn't packet filtering a firewall?
[11:43] <ompaul> meheren, are you running a web server or some such that might be abused from outside? (note there is nothing that needs firewall protection unless enabled by you)
[11:43] <trappist> Paradosso: import -w root filename.png
[11:43] <gnomefreak> now3d,  if you use say gmail go to www.gmail.com and get your mail from the server
[11:43] <Paradosso> thanks
[11:43] <meeaw> hiya, just installed ubuntu and cannot figure out what my root login is... i dont remember being prompted for it.... any ideas?????
[11:43] <meheren> yeh a server
[11:43] <erUSUL> Paradosso, xwd
[11:43] <gnomefreak> thunderbird is very good mail client now3d
[11:43] <Ce_Dreaku> Who can help me set up a HP deskjet 3745 printer in Ubuntu?
[11:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell meeaw about root
[11:43] <trappist> _jason: packet filtering filters packets.  a firewall tells a packet filter which packets to filter, whithout which a packet filter isn't much use.
[11:44] <Paradosso> command not found
[11:44] <alilo1> robotgeek
[11:44] <Paradosso> trying xwd
[11:44] <trappist> *without
[11:44] <robotgeek> alilo1: yes, here
[11:44] <ompaul> meheren, well if your running one do you want it to work with the outside world if so why the firewall if not then use IPTABLES
[11:44] <now3d> gnomefreak: i think you're right.. i'm just stuck in my ways using mozilla suite..
[11:44] <gnomefreak> now3d,
[11:44] <erUSUL> Ce_Dreaku, we told you to look in System>Administrtion>Printing
[11:44] <gnomefreak> thunderbird is mozzila
[11:44] <meheren> gnomefreak: if your usted to outlook exspress evolution is a good choise
[11:44] <gnomefreak> mozilla
[11:44] <Ce_Dreaku> It does not work
[11:44] <gnomefreak> meheren,  i hate evolution :(
[11:44] <meeaw> thanks guys!
[11:44] <Ce_Dreaku> that's where I looked first
[11:44] <alilo1> robotgeek: sorry I was just testing I though I got disconnected
[11:44] <erUSUL> Ce_Dreaku, well tell us what is the problems you encountered
[11:44] <meheren> gnomefreak:yeh i do 2
[11:45] <Ce_Dreaku> there is no driver in the list for 3745
[11:45] <trappist> ompaul: it's common practice to run firewalls on servers
[11:45] <Ce_Dreaku> only 3740 and that does not work
[11:45] <robotgeek> alilo1: type, lspci -v | less, and try to tell me the pci id. 0001:11:00.0 blah blah, Subsystem: Belkin: Unknown device 701a
[11:45] <meheren> gnomefreak: confusing but it is just like outlook exspress
[11:45] <ompaul> now3d, you know that mozilla as a program by itself is coming to an end of its life? it will be firefox and friends in the future
[11:45] <meheren> (yes outloook is confusing lol)
[11:45] <gnomefreak> i use thunderbird for 3 of my gmails and im working on looking for a how to on sendmail to set my other boxes too
[11:45] <Paradosso> erUSUL, may you be more precise?
[11:45] <umberleigh> hi. can someone point me towards a good tutorial for basic usage of the 'ftp' program
[11:45] <gnomefreak> meheren, must be why i hate it than  :) just like winblows
[11:46] <silent_scream> how can i change the default media player ??
[11:46] <Paradosso> can you give me the syntax to get a printscreen?
[11:46] <meheren> yep...
[11:46] <now3d> ompaul: i heard that.. i really like it though.. i saw something that said people woudl be maintaining the suite for a while
[11:46] <meheren> made by microsoft...
[11:46] <gnomefreak> but looks like i have to throw winblows back on here for class :(
[11:46] <meheren> ouch
[11:46] <ompaul> now3d, but the chances that it would end up in ubuntu are slim given that thunderbird is there
[11:46] <_jason> silent_scream, just right click on a file and go to properties -> open with.  Select the app you wan't that media type to open with by default.
[11:46] <now3d> ompaul: i think I will switch at v2.0 firefox/thunderbird
[11:46] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak, vmware? qemu? wine? :)
[11:46] <meheren> well you can dual install...
[11:47] <gnomefreak> yeah but ill get rid of libranet and put winblows on here
[11:47] <erUSUL> Paradosso, man xwd ;)  is xwd -out image
[11:47] <ompaul> now3d, adopt today and "take back the web :-))"
[11:47] <Paradosso> cheers
[11:47] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, no im going for a java class in jan and they base class on winblowsd
[11:47] <erUSUL> Paradosso, man xwd ;)  is xwd -root -out image
[11:47] <ompaul> now3d, it is the same suite just carved into its seperate pieces and build on from there
[11:47] <now3d> ompaul: hmm, i wonder if firebird has import from mozilla profiles?
[11:47] <SteveW> guys, i would like to install xp and ubunto dual boot. which should i install first?
[11:48] <csb> anybody here use kino?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> i know they will get eclipse and lucky me already have it but im not sure if everything will work same as winblows
[11:48] <SteveW> (i'm noob)
[11:48] <ompaul> SteveW, that thing which is not linux :)
[11:48] <bur[n] er> SteveW, windows
[11:48] <mwe> SteveW: xp, or it will overwrite grub
[11:48] <ompaul> now3d, it should
[11:48] <gnomefreak> i would install linux only ;)
[11:49] <mwe> SteveW: you could get around it, but it easier to install xp first
[11:49] <SteveW> mwe, i haven't installed linux since before fedora. do i have to partition things?
[11:49] <ompaul> gnomefreak, not what he asked :-(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  i know but im here to give the truth ;)
[11:49] <_jason> SteveW, xp first and make sure that you choose the correct partition size when you install so that you don't need to resize later
[11:50] <ompaul> SteveW, well given you have the chance I would set it up now  with as small a partition as 15G for Windows and give Ubuntu the rest :-)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ompaul, isnt that backwards shhhhhhhhh SteveW you dont see this lol
[11:50] <gnomefreak> windows needs more space than linux? i thought
[11:50] <HrdwrBoB> depends
[11:51] <ompaul> gnomefreak, bet you his disk is 100G or greated
[11:51] <SteveW> lol is one 15gb part enough for ubunto - no swap partition or anything
[11:51] <gnomefreak> basic windows xp install is like 8gigs
[11:51] <ompaul> SteveW, how big is the drive?
[11:51] <Red-Sox> why doesnt linux have things like setup.exe?
[11:51] <SteveW> big 320gb
[11:51] <silent_scream> _jason, i have some multimedia keys on my keyboard. one of those opens the media player. i want to chance the default media player which is rhythmbox to someone else
[11:51] <gnomefreak> SteveW, good idea to add a swap double your memory
[11:51] <SteveW> but i want most on windows, just want enough for ubuntu to give it a first try
[11:51] <mwe> SteveW: unless you have a lot of data you want to keep under linux it is more than enough with 15GB imo
[11:51] <ompaul> SteveW, then 25G for windows and give the rest to Ubuntu you will be glad over time
[11:52] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, cause linux has things called .bins for setup :)
[11:52] <Xamusk> hello
[11:52] <gnomefreak> .exe is a winblows deal
[11:52] <gnomefreak> i have ubuntu on a 40gig and libranet on a 20
[11:53] <germancito> Help
[11:53] <gnomefreak> just goes to show you how much i love my ubuntu :)
[11:53] <germancito> I can't use sudo now!!
[11:53] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: oh, okay, can you download... like.... firefox 1.5 .bin?
[11:53] <D1> you guys try firefox 1.5 yet?
[11:53] <D1> its faaaaaaaast
[11:53] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  im sure you can cause others use it
[11:53] <DShepherd> hey
[11:53] <florian___> hi, how to loop over directories that are containing whitesapces?
[11:53] <DShepherd> d1 yeah I have.. it kool
[11:53] <mwe> D1: but it loads kinda slow for me
[11:54] <alilo1> robotgeek: the output I have does not show an adress 000111.....,: id nor subsystem either...I can not tell which one is exactly which.  does it have to say PCI  bridge at the beguining or isa bridge, network controller card but , fire wire or ethernet...I am atating most I can so make it easier for you
[11:54] <Xamusk> anyone here with some experience in using ubuntu's LTSP?
[11:54] <D1> really?
[11:54] <D1> its really fast for ome
[11:54] <gnomefreak> D1, 1.0.7 isnt that slow
[11:54] <SteveW> how do i set up a swap partition? im a starting the whole drive from scratch
[11:54] <sampan> stevew, one futher partitioning suggestion.  put your /home on a separate partition from /  that way if you ever need to reinstall (or, heaven forbid, switch distros) you don't have to lose your /home data
[11:54] <D1> whats weird is that the mozilla.org firefox is faster than ubuntu's
[11:54] <robotgeek> alilo1: just paste the lspci -v output to pastebin?
[11:54] <germancito> what can I do
[11:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell alilo1 about pastebin
[11:54] <mwe> D1: once it's loaded it's fast though
[11:54] <gnomefreak> D1, there not the same??????????
[11:54] <yapyccky> hello everyone
[11:54] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: :)
[11:55] <D1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:55] <D1> shrug
[11:55] <SteveW> sampan:ok so how much for / and how much for /home - min. please!
[11:55] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, :)
[11:55] <D1> they say its faster
[11:55] <yapyccky> who knows why my theme on my ubuntu is not appliyed on synaptic?
[11:55] <mwe> SteveW: I just keep it all on one partition and then a swap partition
[11:55] <gnomefreak> D1,  it might be but since i havent really heard good things yet about it im not gonna try it
[11:55] <_jason> silent_scream, not sure where gnome stores that info... you could always create a new shortcut and make your key use that, see !shortcut
[11:55] <D1> well
[11:55] <germancito> I edited /etc/host and changed my host name
[11:55] <D1> there is no ubuntu backport of it
[11:55] <gnomefreak> not for a while
[11:55] <D1> so I had to get 1.5 through that method
[11:55] <germancito> and now i can't use sudo
[11:55] <Paradosso> another question
[11:56] <sampan> stevew, that all depends on how much stuff you're gonna install.  with a drive as large as yours, you can easily do 15 and 15 and be safe for a long while
[11:56] <gnomefreak> its not stable enough for ubuntu to use it in breezy
[11:56] <mwe> SteveW: my ubuntu is currently using about 4GB and that's all /
[11:56] <Xamusk> is this "faster firefox" stuff also applied to Debian?
[11:56] <germancito> and I need sudo to configure etc/hosts so I can use sudo again ?
[11:56] <tyler> I tried installing the mp3 codec but got an error: E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[11:56] <tyler> . Any clue why? I have universe and multiverse installed
[11:56] <trappist> germancito: /etc/hosts is not where you change your hostname.
[11:56] <silent_scream> !shortcut
[11:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, shortcut is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[11:56] <Xamusk> and all the other debian-based distros?
[11:56] <germancito> trappist, please, help me
[11:56] <trappist> germancito: the first line in /etc/hosts should look like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[11:57] <D1> Xamusk: dont know, but you can try mozilla's version I dont think theres a debian 1.5 yet either
[11:57] <germancito> yes
[11:57] <trappist> germancito: you can ADD your hostname to the end of that, but that doesn't change your hostname.
[11:57] <SteveW> i've downloaded the *DVD* install for ubuntu. will it handle setting up swap part and everything? NOOb!
[11:57] <seife> i need wireless internet
[11:57] <seife> now
[11:57] <levander> I'm not supposed to format DVD-R's before I burn them am I?
[11:57] <mwe> SteveW: yes
[11:57] <trappist> levander: no
[11:57] <Stormx2> I'm sticking with FF 1.0.7. 1.5 ruined it all >.>
[11:57] <silent_scream> _jason, how can i make a new shortcut ?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> seeing as firefox is opensource firefoxes versiona dn ubuntus/debians version is gonna be the same
[11:57] <Stormx2> Now I have no internet browser
[11:58] <_jason> ubotu, tell silent_scream about shortcut
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i warned you :(
[11:58] <Strag0> I've got a small issue with a new install of Ubuntu 5.10. I installed it on a machine that had other drives already formated (NTFS) and filled with things. Unfortunatly, when I installed Ubuntu I couldn't access them. It told me I didn't have permission. I'm not a seasoned Linux User so I'm really at a loss on this. Any ideas?
[11:58] <tyler> I tried installing the mp3 codec but got an error: E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[11:58] <tyler> . Any clue why? I have universe and multiverse installed
[11:58] <mwe> SteveW: just leave the xp partition alone during install and you can play around with the rest all you want during install
[11:58] <sampan> stevew, during the installation it will let you do a "customized" partitioning -- and you can set up a swap, /, and /home in there -- format all 3 (but not your win xp partition) and it will do the rest
[11:58] <andi5> hi. i have four questions :) does -ubuntu in package versions imply real differences between debian<->ubuntu? how can i see these diffs? how can i ask for synchronization with debian packages (universe)? and: is this all answered in some faq (link would be great) :D
[11:58] <SteveW> mwe how big should the swap partition be? and if I install 80% of the dvd will 10 gigs be ok to try everything?
[11:58] <DShepherd> Stormx2: what do you mean?
[11:58] <germancito> trappist, but now i can't use sudo because I changed my name and i have a message that tellls me that I can correct the problem editing /etc/hosts
[11:58] <gnomefreak> there is a reason why its not in the backports
[11:58] <D1> the preferences are kinda iffy
[11:58] <D1> I like the old ones.
[11:58] <Stormx2> DShepherd: It didn't work at all...
[11:59] <DShepherd> 1.5? or 1.07?
[11:59] <germancito> but the thing id, trappist that I can't edit /etc/hosts without sudo
[11:59] <Stormx2> 1.5
[11:59] <sampan> stevew, people have different ideas about swap size -- usually from 1 to 2 times your RAM is what i hear recommended
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Stormx2,  they say "stable" but its not atble in linux eyes
[11:59] <trappist> germancito: I think you're going to have to boot into single user mode to fix this
[11:59] <SEJeff> !ffbackport
[11:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, ffbackport is Firefox backport will be a while, read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595.  See !firefox1.5 for information on installing it yourself.
[11:59] <gnomefreak> stable*
[11:59] <Xamusk> germancito: check your groups (and the sudoers file)
[11:59] <alilo1> robotgeek: it is pasted already
[11:59] <robotgeek> alilo1: link?
[11:59] <mwe> SteveW: there is no one rule for how big your swap should be. I have 1GB ram and 2GB swap, but 51bmb swap would probably be more than enough for my needs
[11:59] <Paradosso> !picviewer
[11:59] <ubotu> I don't know, Paradosso
[11:59] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: ;-) So I saw
[11:59] <SteveW> sampan, the drive is totally brand new right now - i want to get ubuntu on there from the start. i thought i would make the first 2 parts for ub (reg+swap) then divide up rest for win
[11:59] <Red-Sox> i have iTunes credits.... any tips?
[11:59] <Paradosso> !imageviewer
[11:59] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Paradosso
[11:59] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: Reinstalling 1.0.7 now
[11:59] <mwe> SteveW: 512 mb i meant
[11:59] <Paradosso> does anyone know of a basic image viewer?
[11:59] <germancito> Xamusk, where do i check it
[11:59] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: can you point me to FF 1.5.bin site?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> .1.5 rc3 is a choice in dapper i think it still comes with 1.0.7\
[12:00] <Xamusk> germancito: $ id