[12:16] <enceladus> hi everybody!
[12:17] <ogra> hmm, short visit
[02:44] <mhz> hi
[02:57] <paolob> hola toditos
[02:58] <mhz> hey paolob 
[02:59] <paolob> mhz: te mueves por todos los lados :-)
[02:59] <mhz> heheh, paolob yup. This is the main channel for this project development
[02:41] <highvoltage> ogra_: are you familiar with http://www.turbogears.org ?
[02:42] <highvoltage> i think that might just be the answer to the drupal problem.
[02:45] <mhz> hi all
[02:46] <pirast> hey
[02:46] <mhz> hi pirast 
[02:58] <highvoltage> hi mhz 
[02:59] <mhz> hi highvoltage 
[02:59] <mhz> nice to see ya around
[02:59] <mhz> highvoltage: are subscribed to edubuntu ML?
[03:00] <mhz> highvoltage: did you read my email about the https and http diff to access wikis same /data dir?
[03:01] <highvoltage> mhz: i'm a bit behind. catching up on work... i'm also behind on.
[03:02] <mhz> hehe, highvoltage I can paste it in query if it is easier for you?
[03:03] <highvoltage> mhz: you think it's a problem that the edubuntu wiki and ubuntu wiki has the same content?
[03:03] <highvoltage> is that what you're saying?
[03:03] <highvoltage>  / asking?
[03:04] <mhz> nope
[03:04] <mhz> I am saying that IF I log in using the ...edubuntu.org/UserPreferences link
[03:05] <mhz> I am not able to get any url that is https://wiki.ubuntu...
[03:05] <mhz> I know, i know they share same exact /data
[03:05] <mhz> so that is not a major prob.
[03:06] <mhz> UNLESS, you are chatting or receiving emails that have urls with https://wiki.ubuntu...
[03:06] <mhz> highvoltage: in that case, you cant just copy/paste or open a new tab from your email or irc
[03:06] <mhz> you need to either: a) log off and back from ubuntu url
[03:07] <mhz> b) type the url all manually
[03:07] <highvoltage> that is weird.
[03:07] <mhz> indeed
[03:07] <mhz> that's my post
[03:07] <mhz> either all htpps or all http
[03:07] <mhz> but please not mixed urls
[03:08] <mhz> highvoltage: again (i know they share exactly same /data)
[03:08] <highvoltage> mhz: have you asked hno73 about it? he's online atm it seems.
[03:08] <mhz> hmm, nope yet. /me was reading emails (85!)
[03:09] <mhz> * [hno73]  (n=Henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk): gaim
[03:09] <mhz> * [hno73]  irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
[03:09] <mhz> * [hno73]  is identified to services 
[03:09] <mhz> * [hno73]  End of WHOIS list.
[03:17] <Navire> Hi, folks
[03:17] <mhz> hi, Navire 
[03:18] <Navire> I am using LTSP on Ubuntu (no Edubutu).
[03:18] <mhz> OK
[03:18] <Navire> It is very slow on my client P 100Mhz
[03:20] <Navire> Breezy suport LTSP. But no run cool!!!
[03:21] <Navire> LSTp on Ubuntu required client robust?
[03:21] <Navire> On debian SID runing fast with client 32MB 100Mhz
[03:24] <Navire> My server is Athlon 1800mhz, 512 RAM. I use in my home. One client only.
[03:24] <mhz> Navire: no idea, sorry. I have only used edubuntu LTSP. I know ogra modified LTSP for edubuntu, and machines run pretty well.
[03:25] <mhz> I do know that it seems that for every station, you should probably have 128 RAM on the server.
[03:26] <mhz> Yagisan: hi gifeted m8
[03:26] <mhz> gifted
[03:26] <Navire> mhz: What's client your use?
[03:27] <mhz> so far, I have only used 2 laptops
[03:27] <mhz> 500 and 600 MHz each
[03:27] <lucasvo> Navire: what is slow? X or bootup or what?
[03:28] <mhz> so maybe not the best 'reference' :)
[03:28] <Navire> Boot...
[03:28] <Navire> X very slow
[03:28] <mhz> boot up time will be faser in dapper (edubuntu)
[03:28] <lucasvo> Navire: what window manager are you running?
[03:29] <mhz> lucasvo: indeed, wm make it heavier
[03:29] <lucasvo> one can not compare gnome and fvwm 
[03:29] <Navire> Edubuntu work in anbient corporation?
[03:29] <mhz> hehehe
[03:29] <mhz> Navire: so you are running LTSP with GNOME  and that server?
[03:30] <mhz> Navire: edubuntu = ubuntu + LTSP + educational apps.
[03:30] <Navire> Ok
[03:31] <mhz> Navire: so maybe if you define corporation environment... we could answer better
[03:31] <Navire> Edubuntu, work cool with olds workstation?
[03:32] <Navire> Pentium 100Mhz 32RAM.
[03:32] <mhz> I tried it once on a 400 MHz 64 MB Ram station and a 1.8 GHz 256 RAm server... it was god, but only one station tested :(
[03:33] <mhz> Navire: edubuntu stations should have minimum 48 MB
[03:35] <Navire> I use one station in my home.  server 1.8Ghz e client 100mhz 32ram. Run cool on Debian SID. Now I am trying Ubuntu and no run cool!!!
[03:36] <mhz> hmm,
[03:36] <mhz> maybe then yu could ask ogra, the Mr. Edubuntu LTSP man
[03:36] <Navire> I am get iso LTSP  to install hand on ubuntu.
[03:38] <mhz> hmmm, have you asked the #ltsp guys?
[03:38] <Navire> LTSP on Debian SID experiense very cool.
[03:39] <Navire> No.
[03:39] <Navire> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo
[03:40] <mhz> Navire: good guide
[03:42] <mhz> Navire: sorry, i have to cook now
[03:42] <Navire> Ok
[03:42] <Navire> Thank you
[03:42] <Navire> :)
[03:43] <mhz_cookin> i whish i can be betta help next time. I'm pretty sure there must be a config option that is making it slow
[03:43] <mhz_cookin> good luck
[03:43] <Navire> mhz + cook = FAT -> Ghz!!!
[03:43] <mhz_cookin> LOL!
[03:43] <mhz_cookin> hehehe
[03:44] <mhz_cookin> indeed
[03:44] <mhz_cookin> c ya lata
[05:04] <lucasvo> Navire: which windowmanager are you using on debian SID?
[05:06] <Navire> KDE 3.4
[05:06] <Navire> Runing very cool
[05:06] <Navire> Sounds... fine!!!
[05:07] <Navire> No problems with SID.
[05:07] <Navire> Now I am testing Ubuntu.
[07:44] <jelkner> kjcole: kevin, hello
[07:45] <jelkner> ogra: oliver, is now a good time to ask a few questions?
[07:45] <kjcole> jelkner, hi.  Glad to catch you:  I was JUST in e-mail sending to you...
[07:45] <kjcole> jelkner, when your "call" came in.
[07:45] <jelkner> what's up?
[07:46] <kjcole> jelkner, I think I need you to help push in the communty council
[07:46] <jelkner> ok, how?
[07:46] <kjcole> jelkner, regarding LoCo naming.  It seems smurf wants "all US teams" to agree on a naming scheme... 
[07:47] <jelkner> how many US teams are there?
[07:47] <kjcole> jelkner, I see that as a bit hard to coordinate, and meanwhile, on the Community Council agenda, I see an application from "NewJerseyTeam"
[07:47] <jelkner> when is the meeting?
[07:47] <kjcole> jelkner, I don't know.  Let me see.
[07:47] <kjcole> jelkner, (to both those questions)
[07:49] <kjcole> jelkner, not as many teams as I thought, but will they be willing to compromise on names?  I'll try contacting and seeing.
[07:50] <kjcole> jelkner, (1) austin, tx (2) dallas, tx (3) detroit, (4) NJ (5) Morgantown, WV, (6) Potsdam, NY, (8) Washington, DC.
[07:52] <jelkner> kjcole: i just finished reading the email... let me think...
[07:53] <kjcole> jelkner, Community Council next meeting Tue, Dec 6,  9:00 AM EST.  So, you may have to lobby through e-mail.  (I'll try to make the meeting live.)
[08:03] <jelkner> kjcole: just sent an email, check it out.
[08:04] <kjcole> jelkner, that should wake up someone... 
[08:05] <jelkner> so, i'll see you sunday at 8 am, yes?
[08:05] <kjcole> jelkner, thanks.  The 8 LoCo's that I've found are those that listed themselves on the wiki.  Two of the so far, don't appear to have e-mail addresses in obvious places.
[08:06] <jelkner> let's wait and see what comes back from the email
[08:06] <kjcole> jelkner, yep.  And I *JUST* got a new ID card today, plus approval for PyCon.
[08:06] <jelkner> cool!
[08:06] <kjcole> Don't forget your GPG stuff.
[08:06] <jelkner> i've already loaded it on my laptop
[08:07] <kjcole> jelkner, last thought (as I imagine you're about to run off): My Dapper laptop appears to be running GNOME and KDE okay after all.  (I did the upgrade not the install from scratch.)
[08:08] <jelkner> yeah, they got fixed the day after
[08:08] <jelkner> i've got dapper running here too
[08:08] <jelkner> i did a dist-upgrade from hoary (not even breezy), and all worked well!
[08:08] <kjcole> jelkner, I got KDE running a few minutes after you left (although some pieces are still missing).
[08:09] <jelkner> keep in mind though, that some things will break from time to time
[08:09] <jelkner> and there will be large numbers of updated packages every day
[08:09] <jelkner> it's fun to watch it progress, though
[08:09] <jelkner> ogra: you here, oliver?
[08:09] <kjcole> jelkner, Yeah.  Expected.  BTW did you see the mail from Chris Otten (CEO4U) who wants to start teaching Ubuntu in DC?
[08:10] <jelkner> no
[08:10] <jelkner> where?
[08:10] <jelkner> i mean where does he want to teach?
[08:10] <kjcole> He sent to all of us (DC people) yesterday.  Dunno exactly where he wants to teach.
[08:10] <jelkner> great
[08:10] <jelkner> ok, here come students, i gotta run...
[08:11] <jelkner> cya
[11:16] <blue-frog> ogra hw conf files should be tweaked using a bash script, pls (assuming I make a backup of the original file first)
[11:16] <blue-frog> s/hw/how
[11:17] <kjcole> any docteam members here for the theoretical meeting on #ubuntu-meeting?
[11:18] <kjcole> (Fridge says "Docteam Meeting NOW".  I'm attemting to herd cats.)