[05:15] <FireRabbit> mojo, ;)
[05:15] <FireRabbit> hey everyone, are the images used on the official ubuntu cds avaliable somewhere?
[05:17] <AndyFitz> FireRabbit,  not to my knowledge.  are you after high res version?  you can always use a scanner :-) 
[05:17] <AndyFitz> the are available within copies the  distro as files
[05:17] <FireRabbit> yeah, high res would be nice
[05:17] <FireRabbit> they are?
[05:18] <AndyFitz> well   usr/share/gdm/themes/HumanCircle/circle.png
[05:18] <AndyFitz> thats quite high res
[05:18] <FireRabbit> oh well thats not quite the same
[05:19] <FireRabbit> i am talking about the sticker on the cd it's self
[05:19] <FireRabbit> do you know who was in charge of this? someone at canonical?
[05:20] <AndyFitz> typically they have been using a studio for their cd's   I don't know about this release however
[05:20] <FireRabbit> who would know?
[05:21] <AndyFitz> I have the email address of the people who provided the original artwork  ( logo etc ) however I don't know if they are still a vendor for canonical
[05:21] <AndyFitz> claire would know claire@canonical.com 
[05:22] <FireRabbit> okay, thank you
[05:22] <AndyFitz> actually jane would probably have more of an idea
[05:22] <AndyFitz> jane.silber@canonical....
[05:22] <FireRabbit> okay 
[12:33] <artnay> list updated once again
[12:33] <artnay> I should diff it or do some sort of changes log
[12:34] <artnay> next thing we should do... create deps between the projects
[12:36] <artnay> this should be ported to wiki
[12:36] <artnay> would be much easier
[01:33] <Tm_T> hmm, so we agreed earlier that backgrounds will be svg when working on them, but in release png?
[01:44] <artnay> I think so
[01:46] <artnay> bvc replied me but there's no word from andyfitz nor volvoguy
[01:46] <Tm_T> ok
[01:46] <Tm_T> then I will do some rough ideas soon
[01:47] <artnay> how should we build the wiki?
[01:48] <artnay> Artwork page would be the main page
[01:48] <artnay> then maybe the links should be split some how
[01:48] <artnay> before X is started / GNOME stuff / Applications / Other stuff
[01:49] <artnay> we should also have the main guidelines
[01:49] <artnay> canonical was supposed to give some kind of branding guide
[01:52] <Tm_T> was, supposed
[01:53] <Tm_T> oh, I love those words ;)
[01:53] <artnay> I'll ask what are they planning
[01:53] <Tm_T> please do, you know where to find me ;) =>>
[02:10] <artnay> ok, I've got an idea. we should split the wiki, right?
[02:10] <artnay> Artwork
[02:10] <artnay> This page does not exist yet. 
[02:10] <artnay> How about this:
[02:11] <artnay> Artwork would be the main page and it would contain
[02:11] <artnay> FAQ, Current projects, Guides, Resources, Members, Links, Kubuntu artwork, Edubuntu artwork and Xubuntu artwork
[02:11] <artnay> Current Ubuntu artwork projects would contain all topics and maybe the discussion pages should be separated.
[02:12] <artnay> Clicking the topic would give the overall view what's happening, links, dependencies, members, guides and resources
[02:12] <artnay> so it would contain lots of cross-linking
[02:12] <artnay> would that be a mess?
[02:13] <ogra> no idea, but for edubuntu see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuArtwork
[02:13] <artnay> oh yeah, Licensing ;)
[02:13] <artnay> that's an important one
[02:14] <artnay> it looks a lot more cleaner than ubuntu's
[02:15] <artnay> last edited 2005-11-13
[02:15] <ogra> our community is smaller, not so many edits ;)
[02:15] <artnay> how come there's not enough ppl involved in this?
[02:15] <ogra> and mhz cares very good for all edubuntu wiki stuff
[02:16] <artnay> should we make an open letter and ask for help?
[02:16] <ogra> for edubuntu ? 
[02:16] <artnay> ubuntu
[02:16] <ogra> you mean the art team in general ? 
[02:16] <artnay> why not for edubuntu as well
[02:16] <artnay> ogra: yeah, at least we should organize as soon as possible
[02:17] <artnay> I understand that ppl have other things to do but still
[02:17] <artnay> nothing will happen unless we make it happen
[02:17] <ogra> do it ... more people are always good ... i'm oly a developer ;)
[02:17] <ogra> *only
[02:18] <ogra> i think you need quite some organisation ... i'm monitoring the art team since the beginning, and there didnt happen much yet ...
[02:18] <artnay> true
[02:18] <ogra> but somehow there is missing the direction ... that probably needs to be sorted first ...
[02:19] <artnay> that's why there should be more ppl online, share our views etc.
[02:19] <ogra> yup
[02:20] <artnay> I've been waiting for a reply to my mails... it would be much nicer if I just could /msg dude and check if he is available using /wii
[02:22] <artnay> now it's a mess: http://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/artwork-todo :)
[02:25] <ogra> i can give you a list with the default screensavers that will be shipped in dapper ...
[02:26] <ogra> mark once made a selection, i think he will insist that he makes the selection
[02:26] <artnay> ok.
[02:27] <ogra> see bugzilla #3044
[02:28] <artnay> thanks for the info, I updated the list
[03:09] <artnay> hey guys
[03:10] <artnay> http://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/artwork-todo - take a look at the wiki section and let us hear you
[03:11] <mhz> artnay: why that isn't at the wiki?
[03:11] <artnay> because I haven't got any replies to my mails
[03:11] <artnay> I need a blessing first
[03:11] <artnay> then we could start doing things
[03:12] <mhz> artnay: what do you mean ?
[03:12] <mhz> no replies?
[03:12] <mhz> what email? 
[03:12] <artnay> nada, nothing
[03:12] <mhz> hehe
[03:12] <artnay> I've asked AndyFitz and volvoguy to give comments
[03:13] <mhz> artnay: but the idea of wiki is exactly that.
[03:13] <mhz> independance
[03:13] <mhz> freedom of speech
[03:13] <mhz> and everyone else can comment on the page
[03:13] <mhz> that url you provide is important, very.
[03:14] <mhz> and should be of everyone's interest
[03:14] <artnay> I can't do that by myself
[03:14] <artnay> I need help for that
[03:14] <mhz> at least, you could wiki it to YourPage/SomeIdeas
[03:14] <artnay> might do that later today
[03:15] <mhz> can I add it for you?
[03:15] <artnay> then there wouldn't be need to send it to list
[03:15] <artnay> sure, just do it :)
[03:15] <mhz> or, email to the list: Please comment about this URL
[03:15] <artnay> no I wouldn't like to get evtek ubuntulisted ;)
[03:16] <mhz> what's your wiki homepage?
[03:16] <mhz> oh, why?
[03:16] <artnay> there's none at the moment
[03:16] <mhz> oh :D
[03:16] <artnay> evtek got lots of traffic from abroad due some things I won't tell gere
[03:16] <mhz> oops. ok
[03:17] <artnay> I didn't have anything to do with it, but still
[03:17] <artnay> it got pretty badly hammered, sort of slashdotted :>
[03:17] <mhz> :(
[03:21] <artnay> mhz: shall we create the wiki on this weekend?
[03:21] <artnay> anybody else?
[03:23] <mhz> artnay: hmmm, which wiki? the wiki page on wiki.ubuntu...? or your own wiki?
[03:31] <artnay> mhz: ubuntu wiki
[03:31] <artnay> I don't want any dupe projects
[03:32] <artnay> we should co-operate as much as we can, that's the only way to achieve our goals
[03:33] <mhz> yup!
[03:34] <mhz> artnay: to have 'edit' privileges in any ubunt wiki, you only gotta create a launchpad account
[03:34] <mhz> and you'll always login using that lp info
[03:34] <artnay> I already got one
[03:35] <mhz> as it is your idea, i thought i could paste your todo proposal below your homepage.
[03:35] <mhz> but i cant create your homepage :)
[03:36] <artnay> Sorry, wrong password.
[03:36] <artnay> but it tells there's a valid account on that name! :)
[03:36] <artnay> hmm, which was it... I have too many passwords :)
[03:37] <artnay> it's not my idea, I guess many people agree on that
[03:37] <mhz> artnay: hehehe, been there!
[03:37] <artnay> they just don't have time or they're being lazy or something
[03:37] <mhz> artnay: ask lp to send the pwd to ya
[03:39] <mhz> artnay: and what I have done to solve the pwd issue is simple. I crate a txt file where i place all my pwds. Then, I encrypt that file and erase the old txt file.
[03:40] <mhz> next time i need to see a password, i only decrypt the file to read.
[03:40] <mhz> :D
[03:40] <artnay> I should do some sort of matrix and make a logic how to store passwords on it
[03:40] <artnay> then encrypt it
[03:41] <mhz> obviously... YOU MUST NOT forget the decryption password, artnay  :D
[04:09] <artnay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
[04:09] <artnay> now it exists although I had no idea how to add the page to Artwork category (wasn't there)
[04:50] <artnay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal
[04:50] <artnay> who wants to fix the wiki on weekend?