/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/12/07/#ubuntu-boot.txt

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fabbioneinteresting :)08:31
fabbionetoday's installer does install the kernel and for some reasons removes it immediatly after08:31
fabbioneleaving yaboot in an interesting state ;)08:32
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Kamionfabbione: today's installer is not worth looking at10:41
Kamionignore it10:41
Kamionit is an ex-installer, it has ceased to be, it's pushing up the daisies, it's gone to join the choir invisible10:42
fabbioneKamion: yes i noticed :)10:42
fabbionespecially when i saw: Removing linux-image...10:42
Kamionplease try to find out what conflicts with old linux-image10:43
fabbionei did try10:44
fabbionebut when i did chroot in target10:44
fabbioneand done apt-get install linux-powerpc10:44
fabbioneit just went in smoothly10:44
fabbioneno info of any kind10:44
fabbioneit didn't report any conflicts whatsoever10:44
Kamionyou didn't need to try that, you could just have looked in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog to see what caused the removal10:44
Kamioni.e. what it was doing when it removed the package10:45
fabbionesure10:45
fabbionei can check that too10:45
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fabbioneah10:57
fabbioneit tries to install hotplug10:57
Kamionthat'll be fixed soon10:57
fabbioneand kicks out a bunch of stuff10:58
fabbioneok10:58
fabbionei had no doubts :)10:58
Kamionno as in I think it's already fixed in our archive, just needs an initrd rebuild10:58
Kamionyeah, it is10:59
fabbioneok10:59
fabbioneit sounds strange tho10:59
fabbionebecause that's the output from what happens after debootstrap10:59
fabbioneit install the kernels10:59
fabbionethan it attemps to install another bunch of stuff10:59
fabbioneand it's there that kills the kernel10:59
fabbionebut well i am sure you know better than me11:00
fabbione:)11:00
ograKamion, there were several people having problems with pcmcia stuff on non-pcmcia machines last night, where the booting locked up on pcmciautils... known ?11:00
Kamionogra: see my comment to Diablo-D3 on #ubuntu-devel11:02
Kamion09:38 < Kamion> Diablo-D3: if you haven't already, could you please install the 2.6.15-6 kernel, reinstall pcmciautils, and confirm/deny that the lockup is gone?11:02
Kamion09:39 < Kamion> Diablo-D3: if it isn't gone, please *report a bug* rather than using several hundred lines of my #ubuntu-devel scrollback on it, kthxbye :-)11:02
Kamion09:40 < Kamion> Diablo-D3: because pcmciautils is going to stay in minimal - the packaging/upgrade issues are too difficult to deal with otherwise - so we need to make sure any lockups such as this are fixed11:02
KamionDiablo-D3 said he was using 2.6.15-5, where soft lockups were a known problem11:02
ograah, ok11:02
ograi didnt talk to him anymore, he cant behave ... but LaseJock seemed to have similar issues ... he used 2.6.15-5 too ...11:03
ogra*LaserJock11:03
ograjust wanted to make sure it didnt slip through11:04
Kamionright, nobody that I saw reported it with -611:04
Kamionbut that isn't conclusive evidence that it's gone11:04
ograi havent seen such problems here ...11:04
Kamionso I want to make sure everyone retests, rather than just removing pcmciautils11:04
Kamionno, it will depend on your hardware. there were pcmcia crashes in the old world order as well, it's just that we didn't install pcmcia-cs on machines without pcmcia then11:05
Kamion(because of this)11:05
ograyup, old debian behavior :)11:05
Kamionwas sane11:06
Kamionyou didn't want cardmgr running on desktops11:06
ograyes, i just remembered the installer question ...11:06
Kamiondamnit, d-i's going to fail to build11:07
fabbionewhops11:09
fabbione:)11:09
KamionOTOH once I promote the relevant thing, sparc might build this time round11:10
fabbioneKamion: no rush.. as usual11:11
Mithrandirwoohoo, I think I've fixed kbd-chooser now.11:11
fabbionefor sparc we are way to early in the release process to worry :)11:11
KamionI care about sparc because its lack of building d-i is causing noise in anastacia output that we have to ignore11:12
fabbioneKamion: btw. i am going to look at that devmapper/lvm2 selinux thing on ppc11:12
fabbioneah ok11:12
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Mithrandirand now it actually works.12:05
fabbionelet see how my laptop will explode with the new kernel/udev and stuff12:30
fabbioneWOO WOOOOO12:33
fabbionego X!12:33
fabbioneat least it boots fine12:33
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