[12:00] <Xamusk> germancito: see if you are in the admin group
[12:00] <alilo1> robotgeek: too much to ask , but how?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  try www.firefox.org
[12:00] <sampan> stevew, your life will be easier if you install xp first (and partition your xp section as large as you want and then leave the rest for ubuntu)
[12:00] <ompaul> SteveW, leave a partition for Ubuntu - I can say that I am using a lot of space in my little ubuntu only world on this box
[12:00] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: thx
[12:00] <SteveW> mwe, i want to set up azureus on ub. maybe i'll go for 2gb swap, can't hurt
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  i also made it clear i dont use it
[12:00] <Stormx2> Red-Sox: I just tried to install it, its baaad
[12:00] <gnomefreak> and i dont advise it
[12:00] <trappist> Xamusk: his sudo doesn't work because he borked his /etc/hosts.
[12:00] <Xamusk> germancito: if not, use your favorite user administration tool
[12:00] <mwe> SteveW: how much ram do you have?
[12:00] <Xamusk> trappist: ahm
[12:01] <ompaul> SteveW, install windows first  double your ram for swap up to 2G swap if you need more than that you are doing mad stuff
[12:01] <trappist> gnomefreak: what does your /etc/hosts look like now
[12:01] <gnomefreak> and as far as i know most people in here will not help with it cause its not part of linux
[12:01] <trappist> gnomefreak: the first line
[12:01] <alilo1> robotgeek: I found it ....haha ..........http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5283
[12:01] <gnomefreak> trappist,  how do i know i didnt change it
[12:01] <SteveW> mwe, 1gb, athlon xp 2400+ 1.8Ghz,
[12:01] <Xamusk> germancito: then check the sudoers file and see if the authentication is bound to the machine name
[12:01] <tyler> I have been trying to install the mp3 codec for the audio player but I keep getting an error.  Can anyone help?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> trappist,  i dont think you meant me
[12:01] <SEJeff> trappist: Reboot the computer. At the grub prompt, hit e. Then put init=/bin/bash at the end. That will boot you into single user mode with a rootshell so you can fix /etc/hosts
[12:01] <trappist> gnomefreak: oops that was supposed to be for what's-his-name
[12:01] <gnomefreak> lol trappist
[12:02] <mwe> SteveW: 2GB swap wont hurt. that should keep you really, really safe. I still think you could go for much less, though
[12:02] <germancito> Xamusk, I'm new to ubuntu and linux, and i don't really undestand everithing you tell me :P
[12:02] <trappist> SEJeff: you meant that for what's-his-name too :)
[12:02] <SEJeff> trappist: You should just need ' 127.0.0.1 localhost' in /etc/hosts
[12:02] <Red-Sox> Stormx2: why?
[12:02] <trappist> SEJeff: I know this, I'm trying to help germancito with it
[12:02] <gnomefreak> whats-his-name please stand up and tell trappist  your here
[12:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:02] <SEJeff> trappist: I've gotta leave, have fun :)
[12:02] <mwe> SteveW: how big is your hdd?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> 320 i thought he said
[12:03] <khermans> I am running Ubuntu Server 5.10, but it is not upgrading my linux-image-686??  Any ideas?
[12:03] <ompaul> mwe, he did say 320 this is the second time around the block on this one
[12:03] <SteveW> mwe, 320gb, but i need most of it for torrents - long story. should i put the torrents on a fat32 drive so i can download from win or ub?
[12:03] <andi5> reasking: maybe, i have a little bit lucky (;-)) this time -> i have four questions :) does -ubuntu in package versions imply real differences between debian<->ubuntu? how can i see these diffs? how can i ask for synchronization with debian packages (universe)? and: is this all answered in some faq (link would be great) :D
[12:03] <robotgeek> alilo1: it doesn't show me any wireless cards? have you pasted it correctly?
[12:03] <jojoman02> i just moved to linux, (i'm a newbie basically) and i don't know anything. i was wondering what was the purpose of compiling your own kernel? what is the use? advantages / disadvantages
[12:03] <ubuntu_> what can I do to check the validity of an NTFS formatted HDD?
[12:03] <germancito> trappist, what's that single user mode?
[12:03] <ubuntu_> (From Ubuntu, of course :)
[12:03] <khermans> I have tried aptitude update and upgrade, but it still holds back linux-image-686 and linux-testricted-modules-686!!
[12:03] <tyler> I just installed eclipse but the folder is on my Desktop.  Where should i install most files to?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> khermans,  what kernel are you running?
[12:04] <Xappe> darn, I can't set anything but letter keys as controls for tux racer (or planetpenguin racer)
[12:04] <robotgeek> khermans: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:04] <_jason> tyler, how did you install eclipse?
[12:04] <khermans> 2.6.10-9 i think?
[12:04] <Xappe> i want space and arrow keys
[12:04] <khermans> 2.6.12-9
[12:04] <gnomefreak> khermans, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update kernel image
[12:04] <mwe> SteveW: yeah if you plan on sharing space between xp and linux, fat32 would be what you want. be aware that it can't handle files larger than 4GB though
[12:04] <khermans> gnomefreak: is that specific to Ubuntu-Server?
[12:04] <ompaul> andi5, the detas are real this is all in the developers faq and requesting for sync in universe is motu stuff have a look at #ubuntu-motu
[12:04] <gnomefreak> khermans,  no its debian commands
[12:04] <khermans> gnomefreak: i have done it without dist-upgrade on my personal workstations
[12:05] <Xamusk> germancito: # visudo -> see if there is a line like "%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL", if your machine's name is there, change to the current one
[12:05] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> cannot determine eth dst addr   possibly missing arp cache entry
[12:05] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> what is this
[12:05] <khermans> gnomefreak: i am running 2.6.12-9
[12:05] <gnomefreak> khermans,  im just telling you how i got it
[12:05] <andi5> ompaul: thanks a lot :)
[12:05] <khermans> gnomefreak: thats weird because it usually updates without dist-upgrade
[12:05] <gnomefreak> khermans,  if it doesnt upgrade what do you lose 3 secs?
[12:05] <alilo1> robotgeek: yes I did, I actualy sent the out put to a file than pasted it as such  lspci -v | less
[12:05] <ompaul> andi5, what is it Mark S said "every debian developer is a ... :-)))))"
[12:05] <mwe> SteveW: or you could try your luck with captive-ntfs and use a shared ntfs partition. It should be stable, but I haven't used it myself
[12:05] <gnomefreak> khermans,  alot has been weird with this kernel
[12:05] <khermans> gnomefreak: yes, the point is WHY it doesnt work with normal upgrade
[12:06] <ompaul> andi5,  wrongly placed smiley (DOH -4)
[12:06] <germancito> Xamusk, I can't run visudo
[12:06] <alilo1> robotgeek: yes I did, I actualy sent the out put to a file than pasted it as such  lspci -v | less >file.txt
[12:06] <khermans> gnomefreak: which kernel?
[12:06] <khermans> gnomefreak: maybe i wont upgrade
[12:06] <robotgeek> alilo1: try 'lspci -v > pastebin' instead
[12:06] <gnomefreak> khermans, i dont know and the 12-10 kernel
[12:06] <germancito> Xamusk, visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[12:06] <ompaul> germancito, did you set a root password?
[12:06] <jojoman02> i just moved to linux, (i'm a newbie basically) and i don't know anything. i was wondering what was the purpose of compiling your own kernel? what is the use? advantages / disadvantages
[12:06] <mwe> germancito: sudo visudo
[12:06] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> cannot determine eth dst addr   possibly missing arp cache entry
[12:06] <Xamusk> germancito: that may explain a lot
[12:06] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> what is this
[12:06] <germancito> i can't use sudo
[12:06] <SteveW> so it sounds like i will do this: install win on 20 gb part, install ub on 18gb part + 2 gb swap. create 160gb ntfs and 120 fat32. sound ok?
[12:06] <khermans> jojoman02: to make it run with only the options you want
[12:06] <gnomefreak> khermans,  its fine now i think but i had grub issues and couldnt configure it so i reinstalled ubuntu and works fine now
[12:07] <Xamusk> germancito: did you execute it as root?
[12:07] <ompaul> jojoman02, if you don't know why don't try it yet - if you are going to try it do it with the ubuntu kernel sources
[12:07] <mwe> germancito: and you don't have access to the root account either?
[12:07] <khermans> jojoman02: most "friendly" kernel builds include almost everything so that you dont have to thin kabout what will work and what will not work
[12:07] <gnomefreak> germancito, why cant you use sudo
[12:07] <Xamusk> germancito: $ su
[12:07] <gnomefreak> no X
[12:07] <gnomefreak> no su in ubuntu
[12:07] <gnomefreak> its sudo
[12:07] <trappist> jojoman02: advantages: you can speed things up by getting rid of stuff you don't need and optimizing for your platform.  You can learn a lot.  Disadvantages: it takes time and the first few times you probably won't get it right.
[12:07] <germancito> sudo: unable to lookup "my name" via gethostbyname()
[12:07] <Xamusk> there's su too
[12:07] <tyler> _jason, i just did sudo tar xzvf 'eclipsepackage' on the desktop
[12:07] <khermans> jojoman02: once you understand the kernel options, you will know that you dont need everything -- and probably less than 10 percents of whats included
[12:07] <germancito> that's whatirit says
[12:07] <ompaul> germancito, did you set a root password?   germancito germancito !!
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Xamusk, not in the ubuntu install there is not
[12:07] <tyler> _jason, so now im left with the actual program in a folder on my desktop
[12:08] <khermans> jojoman02: you can really learn about this stuff by running gentoo
[12:08] <_jason> tyler, is there a reason you are not installing eclipse using synaptic?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Xamusk about root
[12:08] <alilo1> robotgeek: well I did , seen nothing, where am I suposed to look at then? please
[12:08] <tyler> _jason, im newbie.
[12:08] <mwe> SteveW: yeah, or you could go for no fat32 partition and set up captive-ntfs
[12:08] <trappist> khermans: what can you learn about the kernel on gentoo that you can't learn on ubuntu
[12:08] <tyler> _jason, how would i  exactly?
[12:08] <_jason> tyler, ubuntu has this wonderful program called synaptic where you can install thousands of packages easily.
[12:08] <germancito> ompaul, mi password is the root pasword but since i changed the hostname (like 5 minutes ago) i can't use sudo
[12:08] <heatxsink> damn has anyone else noticed that LIRC stopped working witht he latest kernel in Breezy?
[12:08] <robotgeek> alilo1: now copy the contents of the file "pastebin" (gedit pastebin) and put it in the pastebin
[12:08] <Xamusk> gnomefreak: ah, that... I just made a sudo passwd... well, that's not possible for him :-(
[12:08] <tyler> _jason, so i just find eclipse in there? how would it know i have the package?
[12:08] <khermans> trappist: im just saying that the Gentoo docs are more geared topward customization
[12:08] <_jason> tyler, system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:09] <SteveW> ntfs didn't work so hot pre fedora - 120 should be enough to share
[12:09] <khermans> trappist: in Ubuntu, thje motto is "Just Works"
[12:09] <ubuntu8600> Hey I got a question about persistence in breezy - will it save the snapshot as a single file without wiping out my whole thumb drive???
[12:09] <khermans> trappist: not, "Works most efficiently at the cost of barrier to entry"
[12:09] <tyler> _jason, so i need to DL again since i erased the original package, right?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> there is a reset password command but i cant remember what it is
[12:09] <_jason> tyler, you can search for eclipse.  However, to have access to all of the available packages in ubuntu you should enable the universe and mutliverse repos.  I will have ubotu send you a link.
[12:09] <khermans> gnomefreak: passwd
[12:09] <mwe> SteveW: it's your choice. from what I hear captive should be 100% safe though
[12:10] <gnomefreak> khermans, for sudo user not user
[12:10] <trappist> khermans: I think the difference is that gentoo forces you to learn it, while ubuntu (and most other distros) just provide the opportunity
[12:10] <tyler> _jason, oh ive got uni and multi
[12:10] <khermans> trappist: exactly
[12:10] <germancito> and I cant run any programs that use sudo (like synaptic)
[12:10] <khermans> trappist: thats a good way of looking at it
[12:10] <gnomefreak> gentoo forses you to learn during install :(
[12:10] <heatxsink> anyone?
[12:10] <_jason> tyler, all you do in synaptic is find what you want then right click and select install and then apply.  And everything is done for you.
[12:10] <SteveW> mwe, do they have a webpage i can check it out?
[12:10] <khermans> trappist: and we know from watching that movie with Tom Hanks going down on the airplane on the island, that if you need to, you will :-)
[12:10] <ompaul> germancito, that is not what I asked, did you explicitly set a root password, if you did not then I would reboot the box and (A) see if the problem goes away in which case you did not do damage (B) boot a second time if it is all screwed up and press escape while grub is booting and use the rescue kernel which will safely drop you on a command line as root - you can then undo the error
[12:10] <mwe> SteveW: the partions you suggested sound fine. just remember that fat32 can't handle files larger than 4GB
[12:10] <alilo1> robotgeek: done , this is the link : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5284
[12:11] <Xamusk> germancito: did you try to logoff or reboot?
[12:11] <tyler> _jason, i did a search for eclipse and like 10 things came up, which should i use?
[12:11] <khermans> tyler: search for eclipse on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <khermans> ther eis a howto
[12:11] <germancito> yes I reboot Xamusk
[12:11] <khermans> mwe: 2 GB
[12:12] <trappist> khermans: I prefer to learn things as I find the time and the motivation rather than as a barrier to entry, but obviously that's not everybody
[12:12] <mwe> khermans: what. I don't think so
[12:12] <siorai> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Ubuntu/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_7980426/opt_/fpt_/c_/hlv_t
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler about eclipse
[12:12] <khermans> mwe: i think the max size is 2 GB isnt it?
[12:12] <mwe> no
[12:12] <carbanm> can i get some help?
[12:12] <mwe> 4GB
[12:12] <germancito> let me reboot again and see what happens
[12:12] <khermans> mwe: opr is thast ext3?
[12:12] <khermans> mwe: opr is thast ext2?
[12:12] <germancito> brb
[12:12] <trappist> germancito: rebooting won't fix it
[12:13] <_jason> tyler, according to that link, the package name is eclipse-jdt
[12:13] <khermans> maybe it is ext2 that has the 2GB limit
[12:13] <mwe> donno about ext2. ext3 should handle large files fine
[12:13] <germancito> ok
[12:13] <trappist> khermans: I don't think any modern linux filesystems have a 2gb limit
[12:13] <germancito> trappist, whta should I do?
[12:13] <ubuntu8600> Help me make this work please
[12:13] <robotgeek> alilo1: hmm, weird. that pretty much sums up my knowledge
[12:13] <carbanm> anyone here able to help me a bit? i want to know if its possible to install ubuntu from the live disk
[12:13] <trappist> germancito: reboot into single user mode to fix /etc/hosts
[12:13] <silent_scream> how can i open gconf from console??
[12:14] <Xamusk> trappist: but loggin off may fix... hostnames and some other info sometimes are kept till logoff
[12:14] <tyler> _jason, i hit install and its gonan install like 10 thing,s thats normal right?
[12:14] <SteveW> mwe, good point: win 20 / ub 20 / ntfs 220 / fat 60
[12:14] <_jason> tyler, yep
[12:14] <carbanm> anyone?
[12:14] <robotgeek> alilo1: sorry, but try asking around here again
[12:14] <ubuntu8600> Hey I got a question about persistence in breezy - will it save the snapshot as a single file without wiping out my whole thumb drive???
[12:14] <alilo1> robotgeek: is the driver I am looking for would be the right one...wouldn't be ipw2100 that I should be using
[12:15] <trappist> Xamusk: with a busted /etc/hosts his localhost ain't coming back
[12:15] <germancito> trappist, Im sorry, single user mode?
[12:15] <robotgeek> alilo1: i'm all confused :(
[12:15] <germancito> whay is that=
[12:15] <carbanm> can i install from the live disk?
[12:15] <alilo1> robotgeek: thank you som much for your help. you did  A LOT.
[12:15] <Delvien> Anyone know how to find out where the icons are located for an applet? isnt it something like sudo grep?
[12:15] <carbanm> if so can someone help me do it?
[12:15] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using evolution & exchange?
[12:15] <trappist> germancito: 17:01 <SEJeff> trappist: Reboot the computer. At the grub prompt, hit e. Then put init=/bin/bash at the end. That will boot you into single user mode with a rootshell so you can fix /etc/hosts
[12:16] <Xamusk> gotta go now, will ask my question again later
[12:16] <robotgeek> alilo1: well just drop by here later again, i guess
[12:16] <germancito> let me try
[12:16] <germancito> brb
[12:16] <alilo1> robotgeek: OK no worries
[12:17] <silent_scream> how can i open gconf from console???
[12:17] <mwe> SteveW: yeah. and if windows sucks all the 20GB windows space you could always use some of the large ntfs partition for additional software installation. I think I would personally choose not to make a fat partition, and make captive work, though
[12:17] <khermans> How can I reconfigure the exim4 package?  dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything
[12:17] <_jason> silent_scream, gconf-editor
[12:18] <SteveW> mwe, i'll try to get captive working, but failsafe
[12:18] <mwe> SteveW: yeah your suggestion sound sane enough
[12:18] <leagris> re
[12:18] <jojoman02> i cannot wait till GAIM 2.0 with googletalk voice support (the developer is working with google to impliment it)
[12:19] <jojoman02> google is trying to be as "open protocols" as possible
[12:19] <SEJeff> jojoman02: The developer isn't working with google. He is working *at* google :)
[12:19] <carbanm> ok, i have never used linux before, and i would like to install ubuntu, but  lost the installl cd and have the live cd here, can someone explain how this might be possible, if it is?
[12:19] <jojoman02> sorry, correction... AT:D
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> carbanm: not possible currently, sorry
[12:19] <mwe> SteveW: with 18GB for ubuntu and not using it for your large downloads, you wont run out of space
[12:19] <recon0> does anyone know a good NES emulator in a debian p?ackage
[12:19] <carbanm> so im basically fucked?
[12:20] <_jason> carbanm, why don't you donwload the install cd?
[12:20] <carbanm> i have 128k
[12:20] <carbanm> how big is the install?
[12:20] <SteveW> mwe, ok sweet thanks for helping me with this ! !
[12:20] <trappist> carbanm: http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/02/installing-ubuntu-hoary-from-livecd/
[12:20] <tyler> _jason, i just installed eclipse through the manager. where could i find it now?
[12:20] <mwe> SteveW: good luck
[12:21] <_jason> tyler, I haven't installed eclipse myself, is it in the app menu?  Maybe under "Programming"?  (That is where my IDE's show up)
[12:21] <recon0> where can i find a NES emulator?
[12:21] <germancito> trappist, i can't do that
[12:22] <dsas> recon0 i'm not sure if zsnes is packaged but it may be...
[12:22] <_jason> carbanm, 600mb, how long would that take?
[12:22] <ronald> hey
[12:22] <germancito> I tried but atherea re a lot of options when i hit 'e' trappist
[12:22] <recon0> dsas, isn't that a SNES emulator, not a NES emulator?
[12:22] <LjL> recon0: "apt-cache search snes", and if you don't find any, then you need to add universe and/or multiverse
[12:22] <carbanm> hmm, idk, i might as well do it, thx all
[12:22] <dsas> recon0: iirc it does both...could be wrong though.
[12:23] <tyler> _jason, yep! thats so cool!
[12:23] <_jason> carbanm, probably a little over a day, just leave it overnight for a few nights
[12:23] <LjL> recon0: apt-cache show nestra
[12:24] <_jason> tyler, it's not only easier but also safer since you don't ahve to worry about what you are about to install having any viruses like you do when you download from the internet on windows
[12:24] <tyler> _jason, ok, cool.
[12:25] <Leonik> I am currently running windows but I have linux on another partition of this hard drive.  If I delete these partitions from within windows without uninstalling linux, will this completely mess up my boot?  I use GRUB right now.
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> right i made a ubuntu install but the first time it booted it only worked in safe mode, i ran init 3 and it tried to do base-config and it bombed out
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> how do i get base-config to run again?/
[12:27] <mwe> Leonik: you can always boot the xp cd, press "r" and type fixmbr and fixboot and xp will boot again. that will get rid of grub too
[12:29] <BrownMan> Hey, does anyone know how to change your splash screen?
[12:29] <njan> I've installed totem-xine  and xine in ubuntu, and the video aspect ratio for anything played back in totem or xine appears to be squashed - anything 4:3 is being played back at widescreen ratio (a 970x754 video actually has a video window that if I screen shot it is about 970x550).. anyone any idea why?
[12:29] <Hybridx0> hi anyone?
[12:29] <navarone> Brownman>System/Preferences/SplashScreen should set you up
[12:29] <njan> Totem is even reporting the video size correctly in 'properties', it's just squishing the video (and I've tried playing with the aspect options in the dropdown)
[12:29] <doublea> Anyone now how to get dvd menus working? Preferably on mplayer.
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> after changing grub options do i need to run anything like i wouldve for lilo after editing lilo.conf?
[12:30] <BrownMan> i dont have SplashScreen
[12:30] <Hybridx0> which boot loader do you reccomend i use, grub or lilo with windows xp, and do i need to pass any commands?
[12:30] <Leonik> mwe so if i delete them right now its fine?  see i gave them too much space and im going to reinstall ubuntu in like 4 days or so... so it would just come up with GRUB and the only OS would be windows right?
[12:30] <Hybridx0> which boot loader do you reccomend i use, grub or lilo with windows xp, and do i need to pass any commands?
[12:30] <stpere> doublea, you need the dvdplay library
[12:30] <Leonik> hyrbidx0 grub is very smooth
[12:30] <JohnQPublic> Hey folks, I'm an ultra newbie with ubuntu.  I'm trying to install it into a triple boot system.  I'm getting GRUB error 17.  Anybody know of a fix?
[12:30] <Hybridx0> do i need to configure any options for winxp booting?
[12:31] <Leonik> are you in linux right now?
[12:31] <BrownMan> Navarone, I do not have SplashScreen in the preferences
[12:31] <now3d> gnomefreak: Hi
[12:31] <JohnQPublic> No, I'm at school on my windoze laptop
[12:31] <Hybridx0> will grub detect my winxp installation?
[12:31] <mustard5> JohnQPublic, this link will explain what the error is http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:31] <GNAM> auauauua
[12:31] <mwe> Leonik: afaik it should, but if for some reason you cant boot xp afterwards, you can just do what I suggested to get it up again
[12:31] <tyler> for some reason i keep getting errors when i try to install the mp3 codec.. any idea why?
[12:31] <_jason> Hybridx0, it should
[12:31] <Hybridx0> will grub detect my winxp installation?
[12:31] <Hybridx0> cool
[12:31] <_jason> Hybridx0, you don't need to repeat your questions
[12:32] <navarone> Brownman> are you using Breezy?
[12:32] <Hybridx0> sorry
[12:32] <Hybridx0> i will try with grub
[12:32] <JohnQPublic> Thanks Mustard!
[12:32] <Hybridx0> thanx :)
[12:32] <BrownMan> Navarone, I have no idea....I'll come back later gotta eat now.
[12:32] <GNAM> let me explain topic
[12:32] <_jason> Hybridx0, yw :D
[12:32] <GNAM> i must wait firefox 1.5 in dapper repo
[12:32] <GNAM> ... one week?
[12:33] <ProtectYaNeck> where can I find instructions do create a dual boot installation (xp/ubuntu)?
[12:33] <ProtectYaNeck> do = to
[12:33] <Leonik> sweet
[12:33] <Leonik> now i have another partition for my... "stuff"
[12:33] <Leonik> awesome thanks man
[12:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell ProtectYaNeck about dualboot
[12:33] <JohnQPublic> #exit
[12:33] <ProtectYaNeck> _jason, thank you
[12:33] <JohnQPublic> oops
[12:33] <_jason> ProtectYaNeck, yw
[12:33] <aaarg> protectyanecK: check out this movie...explain it all
[12:33] <aaarg> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[12:34] <navarone> Protect> this url gives you a rundown...it's fora  laptop install but should let you get idea http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[12:34] <aaarg> 12 mins....goes through whole thing
[12:34] <ProtectYaNeck> aaarg, haha, I just watched that, but I wanted something I could print
[12:34] <aaarg> heh, guess lots of people read digg
[12:34] <ProtectYaNeck> I just visited it for the first time today
[12:34] <maikeru> gonna go do homework...whee
[12:35] <navarone> CaptainMorgan> wipe your boots...lol
[12:35] <tyler> for some reason i keep getting errors when i try to install the mp3 codec.. any idea why?
[12:35] <_jason> tyler, what are the errors
[12:35] <mwe> tyler: what erros?
[12:36] <tyler> mwe, E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:36] <tyler> I have all repos installed.
[12:37] <tyler> Any clue why?
[12:37] <mwe> tyler: I don't know. I installed the w32codecs deb from the url suggested in !mp3, had no problems
[12:37] <mwe> !mp3
[12:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[12:37] <_jason> tyler, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <tyler> !mp3
[12:37] <tyler> _jason, whats pastebin?
[12:37] <_jason> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:38] <tyler> oh ok hang on
[12:38] <mwe> !codecs
[12:38] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:38] <now3d> mozilla-mailnews fix!  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mozilla/+bug/3250
[12:38] <_jason> mwe, !w32codecs is what you are looking for I believe but he asked about gstreamer package
[12:39] <tyler> gimme one second.  my FF is wayyyy slow for some reason in linux
[12:39] <mwe> _jason: yeah that's it
[12:40] <tyler> do you guys have any idea why my FF is so slow? random question sorry
[12:40] <levander> There's some way to boot into single user mode from the grub menu, like there used to be with lilo?
[12:40] <_jason> tyler, you can try disabling ipv6, that helped me.  Go to about:config and change network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[12:40] <mwe> I didn't encounter any complaints installing the package from that url though
[12:41] <unistd> Where I found source repositories?
[12:41] <KasperTech> Hi. I need help with the ipw2200. It's extremely urgent.
[12:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell unistd about easysource
[12:41] <tyler> _jason, sorry, how do i go to about:config?
[12:42] <levander> tyler: in the firefox location box, just type it
[12:42] <tyler> oh
[12:42] <navarone> tyler> type "about:config" in firefox addressbar and scrool down to network.dns.disable.ipv6...right click it and toggle it to tru
[12:42] <KasperTech> The ipw2200 keeps restarting and killing my internet, how do I fix it?
[12:43] <tyler> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5285
[12:43] <logical_mark> Hey where is php.ini found?
[12:43] <_jason> tyler, you are missing multiverse, add multiverse to the end of lines 19 and 20
[12:43] <Hybridx0> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=536897#post536897
[12:43] <silent_scream> is there any command from console that lower/raises the volume?
[12:44] <mustard5> KasperTech, have you read the wiki entry on wireless for that model?
[12:44] <Xenguy> silent_scream: aumix
[12:44] <Xenguy> silent_scream: (worth a try)
[12:44] <navarone> silent scream> type aslamixer and enter...use arrow key sto move and raise or lower volumes
[12:44] <KasperTech> mustard5: D'you have a link? I've tried the http://ipw2200.sf.net - but it failed :S
[12:44] <tyler> k, ill do that.
[12:44] <mustard5> KasperTech, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:44] <tyler> _jason, doesn't seem like changing the value made anything faster.. any other ideas?
[12:44] <tyler> _jason, my internet is very fast in windows
[12:44] <navarone> tyler you have to restart ff
[12:45] <mustard5> KasperTech, look for you card model in the list and see the notes
[12:45] <silent_scream> Xenguy, nothing happened
[12:45] <tyler> navarone, i did
[12:45] <Steewen> can someone tell me how good computer i have to have to be able to install Ubuntu 5.10? im thinking about trying it on an old laptop
[12:45] <Xenguy> silent_scream: it may not be installed (also what navarone said)
[12:45] <KasperTech> mustard5: Thanks a million.
[12:45] <mustard5> KasperTech, np..I hope it works for you :)
[12:45] <_jason> tyler, ff1.07 was generally slow for me, ff1.5 is a lot faster but I would not recommend you install it yet.  You can try some other browsers like Epiphany and Galeon which are available in the repos.
[12:45] <KasperTech> Me too. And merry Christmass to you mustard5.
[12:46] <tyler> _jason, i have 1.5 :(
[12:46] <silent_scream> navarone i don't mean that
[12:46] <tyler> _jason, maybe il check them out
[12:46] <tyler> _jason, ok, i added multiverse after universe on 19 and 20, saved the file, and ran the command in terminal again.  Same error
[12:46] <tyler> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:46] <Xenguy> silent_scream: what output do you get -> which aumix
[12:47] <tyler> _jason, maybe restart?
[12:47] <_jason> tyler, run: sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <levander> After I've already booted, how do I switch into single-user mode?
[12:47] <navarone> silent scream do you get any sound at all?
[12:47] <silent_scream> i mean a simple command from console like "volume_up" for example, that raise the volume
[12:47] <engintech> help
[12:47] <navarone> silent scream I dunno
[12:47] <Xenguy> silent_scream: dunno; aumix is as low-level (ncurses-based) as I've gone w/ sound
[12:47] <engintech> can someone help with installing my new flat panel
[12:47] <engintech> ?
[12:48] <angel_> What command do I have to type in the terminal window to open Synaptic?
[12:48] <Xenguy> angel_: that, lowercase ?
[12:48] <engintech> i have hoary 5.4 and read ubuntu forums for this lcd but all fixes from wiki don't work
[12:48] <navarone> angel> Synaptic is not a termianl program
[12:48] <ProtectYaNeck> anyone know of direct connect hub software that I could run on ubuntu?
[12:48] <Xenguy> navarone: yeah, but it can be invoked from the command-line
[12:49] <angel_> Xenguy> how?
[12:49] <os2mac> does any one know when firefox will be updated in the repositories?
[12:49] <mwe> it wont
[12:49] <navarone> angel...probably sudo Synaptic...?
[12:49] <tyler> _jason, updating.
[12:49] <tyler> _jason, success!
[12:49] <Xenguy> angel_: open a terminal and type (no quotes) 'synaptic'
[12:49] <engintech> default reconfig settings from xserver-xorg give me 640x480 only.  If I enter the Horiz & Vert ranges of my monitor, I get a "Cannot display this mode" error from the flat panel
[12:49] <lampshade> Whats up #ubuntu?
[12:49] <Xenguy> angel_: does that work?
[12:49] <engintech> it is a dell 1905fp
[12:49] <os2mac> mwe: why
[12:50] <engintech> if I boot into kubuntu 5.10 i have no issue with resolution.
[12:50] <tyler> _jason, its downloading codecs etc. thanks for all of your help guys
[12:50] <_jason> tyler, np
[12:50] <mwe> os2mac: because the ubuntu policy is to keep programs at the same releasy in every release.
[12:50] <engintech> i tried copying xorg.conf from kubuntu into hoary, but it doesn't work.
[12:50] <angel_> Xenguy> it works... it's sudo synaptic... thanks :)
[12:50] <jojoman02> is there any way to skin gmplayer (if not, why not?)
[12:50] <Xenguy> angel_: yw
[12:50] <tyler> Does anyone know of any good java editors other than eclipse?
[12:50] <mwe> os2mac: if you enable backports you'll new version of some desktop programs though
[12:50] <engintech> please help!
[12:51] <jojoman02> the scroll area and buttons and what not (not that gui)
[12:51] <kjdis> Can I just change my sources.list to get the absolute latest pkgs?
[12:51] <lampshade> tyler:  The built in netbeans one that comes with Java is pretty cool.  Also vim.
[12:51] <os2mac> can you cut and paste them to me... I may have already done that.
[12:51] <tyler> lampshade, whats vim?
[12:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> vim lol
[12:51] <Xenguy> tyler: a powerful, but highly complex text editor
[12:51] <stormzen> Anyone here happen to know Smoothwall?
[12:51] <mwe> os2mac: anyway for firefox there is a great guide in the wiki
[12:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> vim is the best editor ever. I like it better than emacs. Yah, I said it
[12:52] <mwe> !firefox15
[12:52] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[12:52] <lampshade> tyler:  You can make it do backflips for you once you get used to it
[12:52] <tyler> Xenguy, more complex than Eclipse?
[12:52] <Xenguy> The_Isle_of_Mark: I use it every day, on gnu/linux and other OS's too :-)
[12:52] <lampshade> I use it on windows too-- the win version of VIM.  It is awesome++
[12:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> yep I use it exclusively...even when in an x window environ
[12:53] <Xenguy> tyler: vi is the original Unix editor; Vim is vi on steroids.  To answer your Q, apples and oranges really
[12:53] <Xenguy> lampshade: that's what I use at work
[12:53] <lampshade> see everyone cool uses vim :)
[12:53] <tyler> Xenguy, i see.
[12:53] <tyler> Xenguy, is it possible to install JSDK + NetBeans through SPM?
[12:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> but tyler it is NOT an ide
[12:54] <Xenguy> tyler: dunno (not really a Java guy)
[12:54] <opnsrc> I downloaded the latest firefox version and for some reason I can't compile it under ubuntu
[12:54] <opnsrc> I had Kanotix and Redhat linux once and I didn't have problems compiling stuff. For some reason, I can't compile anything under Ubuntu
[12:54] <Stormx2> opnsrc: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:54] <LjL> opnsrc: i suppose you have build-essential installed?
[12:54] <opnsrc> I installed all the compiler stuff from spm
[12:54] <kjdis> Breezy doesn't have new enough pkgs for me, do I go to dapper?
[12:55] <mwe> opnsrc: why would you bother compiling it yourself?
[12:55] <opnsrc> how else am I supposed to use it?
[12:55] <Stormx2> mwe: its not in the repos yet.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> kjdis: not unless you want lots of breakage
[12:55] <Stormx2> opnsrc: use what?
[12:55] <mwe> but the binaries can be downloaded from mozilla.org
[12:55] <Xenguy> hah, there is an entry for 'Vim' in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29
[12:55] <LjL> opnsrc: "apt-get build-dep firefox" should get you all the deps you need to compile it
[12:55] <tyler> Anyone know if its possible to install the Java SDK with NetBeans through SPM?
[12:55] <mwe> no reason to compile it yourself
[12:55] <LjL> opnsrc: unless they've added some more deps in the new version
[12:55] <kjdis> I need libstdc++ newer than 4.0.1, that's only thing I want
[12:56] <opnsrc> firefox
[12:56] <Stormx2> Xenguy: So?
[12:56] <lampshade> http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20051025_using_firefox_15_with_ubuntu_510_quick_howto.phtml also looks pretty good tutorial on firefox haven't tried it yet though
[12:56] <Xenguy> Stormx2: yes
[12:56] <opnsrc> it says
[12:56] <opnsrc> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:56] <opnsrc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:56] <boo> hey
[12:56] <LjL> opnsrc: yes. that's "sudo apt-get build-dep firefox"
[12:56] <boo> i just installed cvscedega, how do i open it
[12:57] <opnsrc> sorry, I just used copy and paste
[12:57] <opnsrc> I shoulda figure
[12:57] <mwe> I still don't get why you would compile firefox when you can dl the binaries from mozilla.org, but that's just me ...
[12:57] <Stormx2> opnsrc: Close synaptic
[12:58] <opnsrc> 1.5 is no longer beta
[12:58] <opnsrc> it is closed
[12:58] <MickMcMack> mwe, there are no AMD64 binaries. :(
[12:58] <Stormx2> opnsrc: or aptitude, or add applications, or update manager
[12:58] <mwe> MickMcMack: I see
[12:58] <opnsrc> all of that stuff is closed
[12:58] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:58] <LjL> Stormx2: no, he simply wasn't root
[12:59] <Stormx2> LjL: ....damnit
[12:59] <opnsrc> ok it's done
[12:59] <opnsrc> now I should be able to compile firefox right?
[12:59] <LjL> opnsrc: hope so
[12:59] <engintech> anyone familiar with setting up a dell 1905fp on a preinstalled version of hoary!?
[12:59] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:59] <LjL> opnsrc: don't forget to use checkinstall
[12:59] <Hobbsee> opnsrc: er, why do you want to compile it?
[01:00] <opnsrc> Ok, how do I get it to work otherwise
[01:00] <mwe> MickMcMack: and the 32bit version would be slow on amd64, i take it? you can run 32bit binaries on that can't you?
[01:00] <opnsrc> I want the newest version of firefox
[01:00] <LjL> opnsrc: ubotu has sent you a link
[01:00] <Hybridx0> is there any reason why i would not want to install grub into the MBR?
[01:00] <BrownMan> Hi, I'm trying to put a splash screen but I do not have the wizard in System/Preferences/SplashScreen
[01:00] <Hobbsee> the binaries on mozilla site are close to it, i think
[01:00] <opnsrc> the wikipeida site has 1.0.7
[01:00] <opnsrc> I want 1.5
[01:00] <MickMcMack> mwe, I just tried, and it wont run. Although, it should. :s
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[01:00] <ubotu> somebody said firefox1.5 was unspported in breezy but if you would like to install (at your own risk) Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <opnsrc> I clicked the link, it's 1.0.7
[01:00] <mwe> MickMcMack: aw
[01:00] <opnsrc> !firefox1.5
[01:00] <Hobbsee> opnsrc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <Hybridx0> is there any reason why i would not want to install grub into the MBR?
[01:00] <LjL> opnsrc: no, it's not...
[01:01] <Homer> people are lost without an APT package
[01:01] <Homer> sheesh
[01:01] <navarone> HYbridx0> I didn't and installed on floppy...but I had bad experience with mandrake (3 versions)
[01:01] <opnsrc> hold up
[01:01] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: don't if you are dual-booting
[01:01] <boo> i just installed cvscedega, how do i open it
[01:01] <LjL> opnsrc: and, by the way, that's not the wikipedia site ;)
[01:01] <Hybridx0> im tri-booting
[01:01] <Stormx2> boo: 'cedega' ?
[01:01] <opnsrc> oh sorry
[01:01] <Stormx2> Hybridx0: Me too.
[01:01] <YouCeyE> any apt package for ff 1.5?
[01:01] <opnsrc> someone sent me a link via msg
[01:01] <boo> yes, but the free version
[01:01] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: otherwise I believe MBR is the best place
[01:01] <boo> cvs cedega
[01:01] <opnsrc> to a wikipedia site about firefox
[01:01] <lampshade> Hybridx0:  tribooting right on
[01:01] <Stormx2> YouCeyE: No
[01:01] <BrownMan> I'm trying to put a splash screen but I do not have the wizard in System/Preferences/SplashScreen
[01:01] <Stormx2> YouCeyE: /topic
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !tell YouCeyE about firefox1.5
[01:01] <Hybridx0> lol :)
[01:01] <lampshade> put the firefox info in the topic
[01:02] <LjL> opnsrc: that was an Ubuntu Wiki site, not a Wikipedia site -- at least, the one ubotu sent you
[01:02] <Hobbsee> Hybridx0: mine's a tripple boot too, GRUB is on the MBR, no problem
[01:02] <Homer> how do I install programs without an APT package???!!
[01:02] <Hybridx0> xenguy so the mbr is a good place for tri-booting?
[01:02] <Homer> :o
[01:02] <YouCeyE> k thanks
[01:02] <LjL> Homer: it depends
[01:02] <qu1dam> Hello, can somebody help me set up wine? I am having trouble.
[01:02] <LjL> qu1dam: what with?
[01:02] <mwe> Homer: yeah noone seems to be able to install anything that they can't get through synaptic these days :)
[01:02] <Stormx2> mwe: incorrect
[01:02] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: I think that is the opposite of what I said previously...
[01:02] <Stormx2> mwe: Very very incorrect.
[01:03] <BrownMan> Can someone help me put a splashscreen?  I'm trying to put a splash screen but I do not have the wizard in System/Preferences/SplashScreen
[01:03] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: i didnt understand ur answer
[01:03] <Stormx2> mwe: Of course you can compile in ubuntu. It would be a terrible OS if you couldn't.
[01:03] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: what would u reccomend i do then?
[01:03] <boo> anyone? how do i open cvs cedega =/
[01:03] <LjL> Stormx2, mwe: and i think it's actually made easier than in many other distributions
[01:03] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: I'm not an expert with GRUB, all I recall is that if you are dual (or more) booting with other OS's, then I don't think you want GRUB/Lilo on the MBR...
[01:03] <Homer> storm: you can but who wants the inconvience
[01:03] <Stormx2> boo: 'cedega'
[01:03] <jbloudg20> does anyone knwo if I am able to use some sort of toolbar plug in which will allow me to have my currently playing song displayed on my lower toolbar?
[01:03] <Hobbsee> boo: try in #cedega
[01:03] <boo> k
[01:03] <mwe> Stormx2: you got me wrong. I mean nobody seems to know howto install anything that isn't in synaptic these days
[01:03] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: you should seek other opinions on this :-)
[01:04] <Stormx2> Homer: No-one. hense why there are 17,000 packages in the repos.
[01:04] <Stormx2> mwe: Oh, right ;-)
[01:04] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: I just wanted to warn you what *not* to do
[01:04] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: thanks, i will/ and i have heard a few objections to dual booting with mbr
[01:04] <hawke_> has the behavior of lsb_release changed intentionally?
[01:05] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: google is your friend (in this case a good dose of patience helps too, to find the correct instructions)
[01:05] <navarone> People having to compile every bit of software for linux would be like expecting anyone to build their own cars or anything else. Soem people can do it...but not everyone has the skill, patience or time. I haev installed some .debs manually, but , so far, compiling still eludes me...<2 cents>
[01:05] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:05] <Stormx2> navarone: To be fair, a lot of distros do work off compiling
[01:05] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: yes, and i am in no hurry so i will consider every possible way
[01:05] <Stormx2> navarone: And most of the time you only need to run 3 commands to compile.
[01:06] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: thanks anyway :)
[01:06] <Red-Sox> how do you select everything in nano?
[01:06] <navarone> Stormx> no doubt...but the average user is not looking for that level of immersion
[01:06] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: np
[01:06] <Stormx2> navarone: Thats why apt is so handy ;-)
[01:06] <mwe> navarone: compiling is usually like ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall, done
[01:06] <jbloudg20> i'd like for the info to be displayed here: http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot11ec.jpg
[01:06] <Stormx2> And why ubuntu is so popular.
[01:06] <pygrammer> e
[01:06] <Leonik> ok:  I am looking for a linux distro that i can install onto a server.  I am only using terminal, and I want to be able to choose what apps get installed on it.  If I can't do that, I want a distro that doens't install anything and I can install the things I need.  What's the best distro for this?  unbiased please
[01:06] <navarone> Stormx> exactamundo...<staightens leather jacket>
[01:06] <pygrammer> is there any reason why I'd get dpkg errors when apt-get install'ing asterisk?
[01:07] <Xenguy> Leonik: I'd use Debian
[01:07] <pygrammer> supposedly the "homedir already exists"
[01:07] <pygrammer> but i hadn't created one other than my own
[01:07] <pygrammer> so I don't understand that error
[01:07] <Stormx2> Leonik: There is a server install of ubuntu.
[01:07] <Leonik> what about one that i odnt have to worry about updating each thing individually
[01:07] <Leonik> i was going to just use ubuntu
[01:07] <navarone> Leonik> whe  installing ubuntu you can specify "server" for server install
[01:07] <Leonik> but i hate the user and group thing thats such a hassle
[01:07] <Xenguy> Leonik: Ubu (server install) is probably quite fine too
[01:07] <pygrammer> Setting up asterisk (1.0.9.dfsg-1) ...
[01:07] <pygrammer> adduser: Warning: The home dir you specified already exists.
[01:07] <Stormx2> Leonik: Same in windows and linux.
[01:07] <pygrammer> Home directory `/var/lib/asterisk' already exists.
[01:07] <pygrammer> adduser: No more than two names.
[01:07] <YouCeyE> /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin
[01:07] <YouCeyE> /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:08] <pygrammer> so, /var/lib/asterisk already exists, but why?
[01:08] <Stormx2> !paste
[01:08] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:08] <Leonik> besides ubuntu what would be a good option?  bsd? red hat?
[01:08] <Stormx2> Leonik: lots of servers run off red hat
[01:08] <Xenguy> Leonik: god no
[01:08] <pygrammer> i don't think i'd installed asterisk before...and if i had, it wouldn't be to /var/lib/asterisk
[01:08] <gpled> any word on when a new firefox for ubuntu is coming out?
[01:08] <Stormx2> gpled: When it turns up in dapper
[01:08] <mwe> the user and group "thing" is really one if the things that makes *nix safe
[01:08] <pygrammer> but .... Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:08] <pygrammer>  asterisk
[01:08] <YouCeyE> libmozjs.so .. where can i get it
[01:08] <Xenguy> Leonik: IMNSHO Ubu (server only) or better, Debian (stable tree)
[01:08] <pygrammer> can anyone help? supposedly it installed
[01:08] <pygrammer> but the error doesn't make me feel very good
[01:08] <Quest-Master> IMNSHO?
[01:09] <pygrammer> in my not so humble opinion :)
[01:09] <Stormx2> pygrammer: Open synaptic and see if its broken
[01:09] <Xenguy> Quest-Master: in my not so humble opinion ;-)
[01:09] <Stormx2> I'm off to bed
[01:09] <Leonik>  but you cant specifiy everything for ubuntu... the thing is it installs SSH and Samba and all that stuff and i donno how to configure it
[01:09] <Stormx2> Night all!!
[01:09] <Leonik> and the ftp client
[01:09] <pygrammer> Stormx2: can't
[01:09] <Quest-Master> Xenguy: Ah :)
[01:09] <pygrammer> i'm not running X on the server ;)
[01:09] <Leonik> i want to be able to install it and configure it to what i want
[01:09] <Stormx2> pygrammer: Aptitude then
[01:09] <Stormx2> Bye!
[01:09] <Xenguy> Leonik: server install should be minimal
[01:09] <pygrammer> meh
[01:10] <pygrammer> I don't know how to use aptitude
[01:10] <navarone> mwe> i know what the commands are...and I have installed the build essentials and the like but still get no satisfaction...but I am not eager for bleeding edge or complete system customization. I just like being away from the MS trough of slops...<s>
[01:10] <Xenguy> Leonik: you have to explicitly choose the 'server install' when first installing (haven't done this myself, only heard of it)
[01:10] <pygrammer> Stormx2: doesn't say it's broken...
[01:10] <Xenguy> pygrammer: there's a wiki page IIRC
[01:10] <pygrammer> Xenguy: for what?
[01:10] <Red-Sox> how do you copy everything in nano?
[01:11] <Xenguy> pygrammer: aptitude
[01:11] <angel_> Can someone suggest a very light image viewer?
[01:11] <Leonik> kkk thanks
[01:11] <mwe> angel_: display from imagemagick
[01:11] <gpled> Red-Sox: is nano like vim?
[01:11] <pygrammer> Xenguy: well, I sorta figured it out -- but it doesn't say anything about it being broken
[01:11] <pygrammer> so I assume it's not
[01:11] <Red-Sox> gpled: dunno
[01:11] <Rawplayer> RE
[01:12] <pygrammer> Xenguy: but the error didn't make me feel very good -- why would it error if it worked?
[01:12] <Xenguy> gpled: nano is simple; vim is complex
[01:12] <angel_> mwe: is it avaiable in the repos?
[01:12] <pygrammer> Xenguy: it seems to work, but i don't know if it's set up right
[01:12] <mwe> angel_: yeah
[01:12] <Xenguy> pygrammer: what error?
[01:12] <angel_> mwe: Thanks I'll try it :)
[01:12] <mwe> angel_: apt-get install imagemagick (it is spelled like that yes) :)
[01:12] <pygrammer> Xenguy: I pasted it above
[01:12] <Xenguy> ahh
[01:12] <pygrammer> Home directory `/var/lib/asterisk' already exists.
[01:13] <pygrammer> then...
[01:13] <Xenguy> pygrammer: sorry, supper calls :-)
[01:13] <pygrammer> damn
[01:13] <pygrammer> thought i was gonna get some help :P
[01:14] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey, can anyone give me a hand sorting my telnet out? - i'm trying to telnet to myself on a "server" installation of ubuntu 5.10 and i can't seem to get it to work
[01:14] <gpled> hmm, looks like nano is pico which is wordstart :)
[01:14] <navarone> wow...deafult Firefox is a emory hog isn't it...it's at like 122mb now with one site open...ouch
[01:15] <iustin> i am new to linux, i handled mostly but i want to know where do i find ubuntu gnome themes and a program similar with dc++ for file sharing
[01:15] <jbloudg20> nobody knows how to display othe song information in my toolbar?
[01:15] <mwe> navarone: yeah it's using alot of memory
[01:15] <pygrammer> navarone: yep - that's why I have 2gb :)
[01:15] <navarone> pygramer> only 256 here...<s>
[01:15] <mwe> pygrammer: so you can run firefox? :)
[01:15] <pygrammer> eek
[01:15] <pygrammer> mwe: yeah! :P
[01:15] <pygrammer> it's a Firefox-only computer
[01:15] <pygrammer> I have one for every use
[01:15] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> can i remove iptables and install ipchains?
[01:15] <mwe> rofl
[01:16] <pygrammer> I have one for running Apache w/ PHP
[01:16] <pygrammer> one for Apache w/ Python
[01:16] <pygrammer> w/ Perl, etc.
[01:16] <pygrammer> for Opera, for XMMS, etc
[01:16] <mwe> lol
[01:16] <gpled> if i apt-get, does that mess up synaptic?
[01:16] <navarone> shesh
[01:16] <pygrammer> i could do some serious clustering :)
[01:16] <mwe> yeah :)
[01:16] <dribble> pygrammer: setting up lam-mpi isn't bad
[01:16] <pygrammer> haha
[01:16] <Chris_in_the_uk> can anyone help with telnet?
[01:17] <pygrammer> dribble: I wish :(
[01:17] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: what do you need to know?
[01:18] <DShepherd> hey
[01:18] <mwe> Chris_in_the_uk: make sure you have a telnet server running and that you don't have a firewall blocking the port
[01:18] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: i'm new to linux and trying to follow an online guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4) and i've got to the bottom of the page.  It tells me to telnet to myself to check i've set up ssh correctly etc and the last line i get is "Escape character is ^] "
[01:19] <Chris_in_the_uk> mwe: i'm telnetting to localhost
[01:19] <doublea> Ok. I can hear and see the dvd menus now, but there's no functionality. What do I need to get the navigating to work as well?
[01:19] <mwe> yeah, and the error you get is what?, Chris_in_the_uk
[01:19] <matrix-ubuntu-cs>  i installed ipchains sudo apt-get install ipchains how do i remove iptables
[01:19] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: i would telnet 127.0.0.1
[01:20] <angel_> is it possible to install GoogleEarth in Ubuntu?
[01:20] <mwe> matrix-ubuntu-cs: running a 2.2 kernel?
[01:20] <Chris_in_the_uk> how do i quit the telnet client?
[01:20] <MickMcMack> ^] 
[01:20] <Chris_in_the_uk> i just did that
[01:20] <Chris_in_the_uk> no response
[01:20] <MickMcMack> Control + ] 
[01:20] <gpled> try quit and exit too
[01:20] <ardchoille> I plugged an iriver mp3 player into my box, what do I need to look for to be able to know where to drag and drop my mp3 files?
[01:20] <navarone> doublea> have you installed the dvdcss package?
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> awesome
[01:21] <gpled> ^ = control
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> i managed to quit :)
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> i've reconnected using the loopback IP
[01:22] <matrix-ubuntu-cs>  i installed ipchains sudo apt-get install ipchains how do i remove iptables
[01:22] <LjL> matrix-ubuntu-cs: perhaps "apt-get remove iptables"?
[01:22] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> and make ipchains get to work
[01:22] <transgress> is there a way to set firefox 1.5 that is untar'd to my home directory as the default browser?
[01:22] <doublea> Yes I have.
[01:22] <Chris_in_the_uk> the tutorial tells me to type "ehlo localhost" but the server responds "invalid command"
[01:22] <transgress> flock has a check if it's the default browser option, and it works... but the ff 1.5 doesn't...
[01:22] <lampshade> isn't iptables like a new ipchains?  or something aren't they based off of eachother? or something
[01:22] <gpled> matrix-ubuntu-cs: you should be using iptables
[01:22] <LjL> matrix-ubuntu-cs: anyway, i'm not sure what you're at, but i think ipchains is *deprecated* in favor of iptables..
[01:22] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: you testing mail server?
[01:23] <transgress> isn't there a new replacement for iptables in the linux kernel now?
[01:23] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: yes
[01:23] <lampshade> isn't it helo localhost?
[01:23] <Chris_in_the_uk> possibly
[01:23] <mwe> matrix-ubuntu-cs: ipchains wont work with any newer kernels
[01:23] <gpled> lampshade: it can be
[01:23] <lampshade> for like direct telneting into mail?
[01:23] <lampshade> can it be both?
[01:23] <lampshade> not that I'm doing anything with mail servers right now just curious.
[01:24] <Chris_in_the_uk> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 - take a look just slightly more than half way down
[01:24] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: try ehlo test.com
[01:24] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:24] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: should i be typing this at the blank prompt or the telnet> prompt?
[01:25] <LjL> HELO? at the "blank prompt", i.e. inside the telnet session
[01:25] <Nuclear-BR> hello guys, I need to dl RAR, not unrar neither rar-free, in which repository i could find it?anybody know?
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:25] <LjL> !info unrar-nonfree
[01:25] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> that's what i've been doing, and getting no response
[01:25] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: telnet 127.0.0.1 25  most of the time.  25 is to hit your mail server
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> well i'm telnetting to port 25
[01:25] <gpled> did it say anything on the screen?
[01:26] <delltony> hi i'm trying to play deuce bigalow (dvd) on my laptop and for some reason it will not play in kaffiene i have libdvdcss2 installed anything else i should check to see if its missing?
[01:26] <Chris_in_the_uk> i'm expecting something like "220 sever.example.com ESMTP Postfix (Debain/GNU)" when i connect, but i don't get any message like that
[01:26] <Chris_in_the_uk> when i type a command, i get no response, just a new line
[01:26] <transgress> anyone... how do you change the default browser?
[01:26] <Ep|phany> does anyone know a good ftp viewer?
[01:26] <transgress> Ep|phany: gftp
[01:26] <navarone> epipahny...gftp
[01:26] <Ep|phany> thnx
[01:27] <redguy> ftp *viewer* ?
[01:27] <transgress> redguy: i'm assuming he means client.
[01:27] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: are you using postfix?
[01:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes
[01:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> and it is running
[01:27] <mwe> navarone: you mentioned your firefox used about 128mb of ram with one page open?
[01:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> i just tried starting it again and got a fail because it was already running
[01:27] <lampshade> I also second gftp
[01:27] <snorks> Ep|phany: ncftp... no problem, thank me later
[01:27] <LjL> mwe: that's similar to what mine's using -- that's VM size
[01:27] <gpled> and you typed: telnet 127.0.0.1 25 ?
[01:28] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes
[01:28] <navarone> mwe...yeah it was at 122mb..i had browsed maybe one or two pages and was idling on one page(tab) open
[01:28] <mwe> LjL: mine seems to be using only about 30MB
[01:28] <Ep|phany> heh ill try it out snorks
[01:28] <Nuclear-BR> problem is, i dont have the multiverse repository, how do I add it?
[01:28] <snorks> to set disk quotas in smb, do i have to use LDAP for that?
[01:28] <LjL> mwe: mine's *resident* size is about 30MB
[01:28] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: do you know how to stop postfix?
[01:28] <Chris_in_the_uk> something like /etc/init.d/postfix stop?
[01:29] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes :)
[01:29] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: that looks correct
[01:29] <mwe> LjL: please explain what that means, if you don't mind
[01:29] <Chris_in_the_uk> it's stopped
[01:29] <opnsrc> Is there a deltree equivalent in ubuntu
[01:29] <gpled> ok, now start it
[01:29] <snorks> opnsrc: -r
[01:29] <DShepherd> Nuclear-BR: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse <-- try that
[01:29] <delltony> can someone help me please ?
[01:29] <opnsrc> I tried installing the new firefox version using those instructions (copy and paste), no luck
[01:29] <opnsrc> Now I want to remove /opt/firefox
[01:29] <navarone> mwe> are you using 1.5?
[01:29] <LjL> mwe: just type "ps aux", there's a "VSZ" column and a RSS" column
[01:29] <snorks> opnsrc: aka rm -r (which stands for recursive) whatuwanttoremove
[01:29] <DShepherd> delltony: it depends
[01:29] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:29] <snorks> np. take care with it
[01:29] <mwe> LjL: yes what the vm?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> opnsrc: on that wiki page, it also tells you how to remove firefox 1.5
[01:30] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok, gpled, restarted it
[01:30] <delltony> depends?
[01:30] <Nuclear-BR> DShepherd, thanks
[01:30] <LjL> mwe: the vm size is the amount of total memory, including swapped memory. resident size is only physical memory. that's my understanding of it at least
[01:30] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: now try telnet 127.0.0.1 25
[01:30] <levander> Somebody can tell me how to get into single user mode after I've already booted ubuntu?
[01:30] <DShepherd> delltony: yes, But you only know if you ask :)
[01:30] <opnsrc> Well it didn't even install
[01:30] <DShepherd> Nuclear-BR: np
[01:30] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: tried, same response
[01:30] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> this is a file for redhat but when can i get it for ubuntu lokkit-0.50-21.8.0.src.rpm
[01:30] <delltony> i did ask ;) but ill ask again :)
[01:30] <snorks> levander: single user mode?
[01:30] <opnsrc> I have no idea what it did, gave me an error and said need some help
[01:30] <boo> whats the command for unzipping .tar files?
[01:30] <delltony> hi i'm trying to play deuce bigalow (dvd) on my laptop and for some reason it will not play in kaffiene i have libdvdcss2 installed anything else i should check to see if its missing?
[01:30] <opnsrc> or you need help
[01:30] <opnsrc> is what it told me
[01:31] <mwe> LjL: I see
[01:31] <iustin> what`s the equivalent for dc++ (direct connect)? plz
[01:31] <levander> snorks: e.g., the inittab run levels
[01:31] <snorks> opnsrc: ?
[01:31] <navarone> delltony> ahve you tried mplayer?
[01:31] <boo> iustin they have dc++
[01:31] <levander> snorks: there's a command to switch run levels, don't remember it
[01:31] <opnsrc> i forgot the exact words but it said something like that
[01:31] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: type helo test
[01:31] <delltony> let me try it
[01:31] <boo> does anyone know the command for unzipping .tar files
[01:31] <snorks> levander: hm. isnt that
[01:31] <snorks> levander: give me a sec
[01:31] <Chris_in_the_uk> no response
[01:31] <LjL> boo: "tar -x -f filename.tar"
[01:31] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: thats not good
[01:31] <YouCeyE> hi.. how can i install debian from ubutu using debootstrap
[01:31] <LjL> boo: and anyway, you'll probably want to *untar* tar files ;)
[01:32] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: b*gger :(
[01:32] <opnsrc> I figure I'll try to stick in a knoppix CD, compile it with that (on my Ubuntu HD), boot Ubuntu and run it
[01:32] <DShepherd> boo: 'man tar' for more info
[01:32] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: do you know where your postfix log is?
[01:32] <opnsrc> Kanotix *
[01:32] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: give me 2 minutes
[01:32] <gpled> think it is /var/log/maillog
[01:32] <gpled> brb
[01:32] <opnsrc> I never had problems compiling stuff under Kanotix
[01:32] <caravena_> boo: "tar -xf filename.tar"
[01:32] <delltony> nope not playing
[01:32] <mwe> LjL: that's funny, cause "free" reports zero swap used, though ps aux reports 89MB for FF, vm and about 30MB rss
[01:32] <LjL> levander: i think "telinit" is what you want
[01:33] <snorks> levander:
[01:33] <opnsrc> anywho, thanks
[01:33] <snorks> levander: i think runlevel?
[01:33] <LjL> mwe: then i suppose my understanding of it is wrong. but, now that i think of it, VM size probably also includes shared libraries
[01:33] <snorks> levander: or telinit
[01:34] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: where is it likely to be? postfix was installed using default setup
[01:34] <levander> snorks: 'man runlevel' says runlevel just reports the run level
[01:34] <winston> how to install xine or mplayer on breezy?
[01:34] <LjL> levander: telinit
[01:34] <caravena_> ?
[01:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell winston about mplayer
[01:34] <LjL> levander: http://docs.pld-linux.org/runlevels.html
[01:34] <levander> i think it's like LjL said, telinit, thanks snork and LjL
[01:34] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: /var/log/maillog
[01:34] <navarone> Chris he suggested /var/log/maillog
[01:34] <Chris_in_the_uk> cheers guys
[01:35] <snorks> levander: i did this at school not long ago :/ i mean it was runlevel
[01:35] <navarone> Chris...tip tip and all that rot...<lol>
[01:35] <gpled> navarone: lol
[01:35] <Murrlin> how would I go about setting 'open with'/mime types?
[01:35] <czr> hello all. just installed ubuntu 5.10 and noticed that the partitioning tool displays misleading info
[01:36] <mwe> LjL: yeah im a bit confused now though since ps -eo size,cmd|grep firefox reports 55MB :) that's three different reportings. heh
[01:36] <Murrlin> i.e. I'd like totem-xine to be called when clicking on avi files
[01:36] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: found it, /var/log/mail.log
[01:36] <LjL> mwe: that's why i stopped trying to find out how much memory my processes ate long ago
[01:36] <czr> it said that ubuntu does not current support booting if either / or /boot is on LVM. I put / on LVM and it boots just fine. /boot is a regular partition (for GRUB)
[01:37] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: does it look like postfix started ok?
[01:37] <mwe> LjL: heh, yeah
[01:37] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: no :P
[01:37] <silent_scream> how can i copy a file from linux to windows?
[01:37] <LjL> silent_scream: you mean different computers, or the same computer?
[01:37] <gpled> Silencer: scp
[01:37] <snorks> silent_scream: mount either partition in either OS
[01:37] <winston> _jason E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[01:37] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: there's about 8 and a half pages of errors and the machine's only been running half a day!
[01:37] <navarone> mwe> I've heard people say that linux uses all avaialble physical memory before swap is that correct?
[01:37] <_jason> winston, have you enabled mutliverse and universe?
[01:38] <czr> navarone, not true with 2.6
[01:38] <silent_scream> LjL the same
[01:38] <mwe> navarone: afaik, yes
[01:38] <gpled> silent_scream: woops wrong way. ftp
[01:38] <navarone> ok
[01:38] <winston> _jason no, how?
[01:38] <LjL> silent_scream: is your windows filesystem fa32 or ntfs?
[01:38] <czr> it might start swapping before if it decides that there are old pages that can be swapped and there is pressure for more cache memory
[01:38] <silent_scream> no there is a program
[01:38] <snorks> silent_scream: ifs something lets you mount linux partitions. But you can't write to it
[01:38] <_jason> winston, it's the second step in that guide
[01:38] <silent_scream> LjL ntfs
[01:38] <czr> navarone, but it is rare.
[01:38] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: you ever use pastbin?
[01:38] <steigweis> does anybody use photoshop and dreamweaver under linux? and how?
[01:38] <mwe> navarone: "free" will show if any swap is used. mine reports zero swap used
[01:38] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: no, sorry
[01:38] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk:  hold
[01:38] <snorks> steigweis: try vmware for linux
[01:38] <LjL> silent_scream: then you shouldn't copy from linux to windows, as ntfs should only be mounted read-only in linux. write support is rather dangerous currently
[01:39] <snorks> steigweis: vmware.com
[01:39] <steigweis> snorks: thanks? have you tried that?
[01:39] <czr> steigweis, you'll end up running a full windows under linux with vmware
[01:39] <LjL> silent_scream: you could create a small fat32 partition to exchange data. or, you could use a windows utility to take files from your ext2 (linux) filesystem
[01:39] <snorks> silent_scream: boot into windows, mount your linux partition with following app: <will find it for you in a sec> then copy files
[01:39] <silent_scream> LjL no. imean when i am in windows to get the file from linux. there is a program doing that
[01:39] <snorks> steigweis: no, but i plan to in the xmas vacations
[01:39] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: could it not be working due to relatively low ram?
[01:40] <steigweis> czr: with an up-to-date sytem. is that fast enough?
[01:40] <navarone> silent scream> you can make a shared aprtiton in fat32 to move files between os's...but it required a little planning before install...or careful partitioning after the fact
[01:40] <czr> steigweis, I've been using vmware for many years now
[01:40] <czr> steigweis, it's fast enough for my needs ;-)
[01:40] <steigweis> czr: so you have linux and windows the same time
[01:40] <_jason> Silencer, explore2fs
[01:40] <silent_scream> yes
[01:40] <LjL> silent_scream: google for "ext2 windows". you'll find more than one option
[01:40] <czr> steigweis, no. I run other stuff under vmware. I don't use windows
[01:40] <silent_scream> thanx _jason
[01:40] <czr> but I've run windows under vmware at other locations
[01:40] <coz> hello all
[01:41] <_jason> silent_scream, np
[01:41] <czr> steigweis, runs better in vmware than on hardware (windows that is)
[01:41] <coz> has anyone used the defrag utility from synaptic?
[01:41] <snorks> silent_scream: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[01:41] <steigweis> czr: aha, you dont have to run windows under vmware to rum ps..
[01:41] <czr> steigweis, you have to. I don't have to since I don't use ps :-)
[01:41] <steigweis> crazy shit
[01:42] <snorks> steigweis: i merely gave you an option :P I have no idea if there's a native version for linux of those apps
[01:42] <steigweis> ok, i will have a look...
[01:42] <snorks> steigweis: or lets use the word ported
[01:42] <winston> _jason thanx
[01:42] <LjL> coz: no, and i'm not sure it's really recommended using... especially on an ext3 filesystem. i'm not sure, but do search for further information before you try to use it
[01:42] <czr> steigweis, vmware workstation is the version suitable for you
[01:42] <_jason> winston, yw
[01:42] <czr> steigweis, the other ones are meant for server use
[01:42] <czr> steigweis, they are also much more expensive than workstation. you can get 30 day eval for all of them though
[01:42] <coz> I would like to but so far I have found three defrag utilities for linux each are more complicated to use than i w ould like or am used to
[01:42] <steigweis> ok, thanks.. so there is no disadvantage left on linux
[01:43] <coz> i was hoping someone here does some testing of some of the apps to be sure they are ok
[01:43] <czr> steigweis, technically you'll still be running windows though, just trough vmware ;-)
[01:43] <pinkisntwell> when are we gonna get firefox 1.5.0 on the repositories?
[01:43] <coz> I do some testing but this one has me stumped
[01:43] <snorks> which is best
[01:43] <LjL> pinkisntwell: why, who said we are going to? ;)
[01:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell pinkisntwell about ffbackport
[01:44] <transgress> they have to put ff into whatever the next version of ubuntu is before they backport it i believe
[01:44] <transgress> dapper
[01:44] <Siph0n> whats a good ftp program to use? im tryin to use gftp, but everytime i download or upload it closes the program...
[01:44] <transgress> Siph0n: wtf did you do to it?
[01:44] <FooWater> Can anyone point me to instructions on getting Ubuntu Linux to work with a wireless network card connecting to an Apple Airport Express using WPA?
[01:44] <MickMcMack> Siph0n, try konqueror. :)
[01:44] <snorks> hows running a DC with AD in wmware on a linux comp using smb with ldap to simulate AD?
[01:44] <Chris_in_the_uk> anyone got any idea how to install a TEXT ONLY browser on ubuntu 5.10 installed as a server?
[01:44] <czr> does anyknow know whether ubuntu will have enterprise hardware drivers at any point? or is cheaper hardware the target for ubuntu?
[01:45] <navarone> Chris>apt-get install lynx
[01:45] <Hobbsee> Chris_in_the_uk: use elinks or lynx
[01:45] <czr> snorks, what would you run DC and also simulate it at the same time?
[01:45] <snorks> To see what happens
[01:45] <snorks> czr:
[01:45] <czr> snorks, vmware runs any OS on a virtual machine
[01:45] <Chris_in_the_uk> cheers navarone and hobbsee
[01:46] <snorks> czr: Yes. I would like to see it
[01:46] <czr> snorks, please rephrase what you want to run then. it doesn't make much sense to me :-)
[01:46] <steigweis> pinkisntwell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion   try that to install the latest ff! it is very easy and ff 1.5 is 1000 times faster than the implemented crapfox on ubuntu
[01:46] <snorks> czr: Its not supposed to make sense
[01:46] <czr> snorks, touche :-)
[01:46] <snorks> czr: I would also like to activate dhcp on same netid juts for fun
[01:46] <pinkisntwell> ok will do, thanks
[01:46] <czr> snorks, go and download vmware workstation and get the 30 day eval license from vmware.com
[01:46] <LjL> Chris_in_the_uk: well, yet another suggestion as for text browsers: links2 (it's also got a graphics mode)
[01:47] <opnsrc> Ok I figured out what's wrong
[01:47] <czr> snorks, and have your windows install CDs handy
[01:47] <snorks> opnsrc: What is wrong, sir?
[01:47] <snorks> czr: hehe yep :)
[01:47] <opnsrc> When I run Kanotix (or other distributions of linux) and I extract firefox from firefox-1.5.tar.gz to the firefox directory
[01:47] <opnsrc> there is a file called firefox
[01:47] <czr> snorks, if you ever end up building large enterprise virtual server systems, stick with vmware ;-)
[01:48] <snorks> czr: We made (the teacher) a legit win server 2k03 vmware image today. Sucks we can't take it home
[01:48] <opnsrc> Now normally I can double click that file and it runs perfectly
[01:48] <pinkisntwell> and people, i get some problems with my sound in ubuntu. with most programs (media players) it works, but with games it mostly doesn't (xmame, zsnes, quake3)
[01:48] <czr> snorks, just use the "real" version (ESX)
[01:48] <oblib> has anyone used a parallel port scanner with Ubuntu?
[01:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell opnsrc about enter
[01:48] <opnsrc> But under Ubuntu it asks me if I want to run it, display or run in terminal
[01:48] <snorks> czr: I have not heard of that.
[01:48] <czr> snorks, well, as I said, I don't need windows for anything, so I don't really feel the pain
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How can I do a multiple cd install on WINE?
[01:48] <opnsrc> No matter what I click it doesn't run
[01:48] <opnsrc> sorry
[01:48] <SpAwN> hello i installed ubuntu yesterday....everything works except the sound....ive read alot of threads on ubuntu forums and still havent had any luck.....ive tried so manythings but nothing works...only kinda sound is the beep that my computer makes...nothing in the speakers...ive messed with the also and oss but neither do anything....i also read that  Installing polypaudio and replacing esound as your sound server also seems to work..
[01:48] <SpAwN> but when i use synaptic it says there is no packaged called polypaudio..i also know that my sound card is working as i have sound if i boot to windoze. has anyone else had this prob and found a solution?
[01:48] <czr> snorks, spend some 500k$ on storage (SAN), spend some 200k$ on blade server, spend some 100k$ on vmware, then you have ha/failover-whatever
[01:49] <czr> blade servers even
[01:49] <snorks> czr: If I was a gamer or a musician I'd like windows. But I  quit gaming, and I don't have any electric guitars laying around, so :p
[01:49] <opnsrc> so how do I make it run?
[01:49] <czr> snorks, I use xbox for gaming ;-)
[01:49] <DShepherd> pinkisntwell: you can manually iinstall it if you cant wait for dapper
[01:49] <_jason> opnsrc, you followed everything in the wiki guide correct?
[01:49] <czr> snorks, and music-wise I feel your pain. I've still to find good software that will work for my needs
[01:49] <snorks> czr: I use my CCNA book for gaming currently... working on my bachelor in network adm and security
[01:49] <opnsrc> it gave me an error
[01:50] <_jason> opnsrc, what error?
[01:50] <opnsrc> the thing is I don't want to go through all this every time I want to run an application
[01:50] <czr> snorks, what kind of net adm?
[01:50] <snorks> czr: im still in my first year
[01:50] <DShepherd> pinkisntwell: nm
[01:50] <opnsrc> I want it to work Just like it works with Kanotix and other distributions of linux
[01:50] <opnsrc> I double click the application, it runs
[01:50] <opnsrc> is how I want it to work. How do I fix that?
[01:50] <snorks> czr: im not sure what you mean by that question... whatever the job I apply for requires?
[01:50] <bimberi> SpAwN: polypaudio is in the universe repository
[01:50] <pinkisntwell> ok about ff, my problem now is the sound
[01:50] <czr> snorks, np :-). ah, I thought you were working on some network management software ;-)
[01:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell SpAwN about repositories
[01:50] <_jason> opnsrc, oh you are just asking about that functionality in nautilus, let me see if I can find that option
[01:51] <SpAwN> bimberi, this is my 1st time using a linux with apt-get
[01:51] <snorks> czr: No :) I'm doing bachelor of network management and security, and I plan to top it off with a masters
[01:51] <czr> snorks, because that's my hobby nowadays, that's why I asked
[01:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Why not use ALSA? Its fairly easy to compile.
[01:51] <SpAwN> ahh k
[01:51] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, umm well i have that selected and it doesnt give me sound
[01:51] <snorks> czr: Ah, that is interesting. Got any url or something so I can look at it some time?
[01:51] <bimberi> SpAwN:  also there's a couple of wiki pages about soudn issues ...
[01:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: What verison of Ubuntu?
[01:51] <SpAwN> my puter seems to see my card
[01:51] <czr> snorks, build a L2-transparent NAT:ting firewall with custom linux distro, that will teach you a lot ;-)
[01:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell SpAwN about sound
[01:51] <_jason> opnsrc, in nautilus, edit _> preferences -> behavior.  Under "Executable Text Files" change that to run when clicked
[01:52] <SpAwN> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.10 - breezy Kernel: 2.6.12-9-686, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.4
[01:52] <snorks> czr: heh, i still need to master cisco wildcars (!#%@!#@)
[01:52] <czr> snorks, nothing complete/worth showing yet. as I said, it's a hobby. not sure whether I will open source it.
[01:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you run alsaconf?
[01:52] <snorks> czr: wildcards
[01:52] <SpAwN> yes
[01:52] <opnsrc> no, the thing is it asks me what I want to do with it and one option is run. Even when I click run it does nothing
[01:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: What kind of card is it?
[01:52] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> unknown host hote.com
[01:52] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> matrix@ubuntu:~$ ping www.hote.com
[01:52] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> PING home.plugnet.com (194.206.113.7) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:52] <SpAwN> and i made sure it was unmuted and turnd up
[01:52] <czr> snorks, IOS is ok once you get used to it :-) just need practice with real environments
[01:52] <SpAwN> umm
[01:52] <oblib> has anyone used a parallel port scanner with Ubuntu? Anyone know about xsane in general? I need a backport and don't know how to install it
[01:52] <opnsrc> will this fix that?
[01:52] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:53] <SpAwN> it came with my dell dimension 8400
[01:53] <LjL> oblib: i do know something about sane (not xsane in particular), but i have a usb scanner
[01:53] <snorks> czr: I feel I master most of the CCNA requirements when it comes to equipment, but wildcards is just a little hard
[01:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: What came up when you ran alsaconf?
[01:53] <Siph0n> Konqueror isnt an ftp client tho, right?
[01:53] <LjL> Siph0n: yes it is
[01:53] <snorks> czr: off head that is... can always cheat
[01:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Was there hdaintel by any chance?
[01:53] <czr> snorks, CCNA didn't have wildcards when I did it
[01:53] <czr> snorks, so I wouldn't know :-)
[01:53] <Siph0n> i got it, but dont see how its an ftp client :)
[01:53] <snorks> czr: Ah ok :-)
[01:54] <czr> although I think I'll do CCNP after new year
[01:54] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, actualy i dont think i did
[01:54] <oblib> LjL, I take it that it worked off the bat for you?
[01:54] <SpAwN> i used alsamixer
[01:54] <_jason> opnsrc, this would stop it from asking you.  You should follow the wiki to get firefox to work.  The wiki guide basically sets up you profile directory correctly and makes the firefox command run the new version.
[01:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Could be a little start. Lol.
[01:54] <czr> otherwise my CCNA expires soon, not that I need it for anything
[01:54] <czr> CCNA is pretty worthless IMHO
[01:54] <SpAwN> alsaconf: command not found
[01:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: You gotta configure the card first.
[01:54] <snorks> czr: Well, think subnetting (or maybe reverse subnetting) with extensive use of block sizes. Again, it's easy if you wanna cheat
[01:54] <snorks> czr: if there is such a word
[01:54] <doublea> I now uninstalled the dvdcss package. It didn't have any effect on anything
[01:54] <czr> you mean CIDR?
[01:54] <snorks> czr: It's hard to explain
[01:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you try compiling the alsa-utils/alsa-lib/alsa-driver?
[01:54] <LjL> Siph0n: uh... i'm missing something here. you definitely *can* use ftp servers from konqueror, can't you?=
[01:55] <doublea> Still no functionality on menus.
[01:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Or installing alsautils in Synaptic
[01:55] <opnsrc> Ok, but, there is a file inside the firefox directory named firefox. When I double click this file firefox 1.5 should automatically run (it does with other distributions of linux)
[01:55] <LjL> oblib: no, it didn't. i had to compile and install a third-party driver
[01:55] <czr> Siph0n, Alt+F2: ftp://name.of.ftp.server/path
[01:55] <czr> or just write that into any address field in KDE/konqueror
[01:55] <Siph0n> but how do i set passive mode?
[01:55] <opnsrc> I don't want it such that every program I extract I need to go to a wiki page and type all this stuff. I want it such that I double click it and it runs, just like under kanotix
[01:55] <oblib> LjL, oh good. I have source for the driver I need (I think). Do I just run the make script and pray?
[01:55] <SpAwN> no Biscuitian_Warhe should i do both
[01:55] <SpAwN> or one or the other?
[01:55] <czr> Siph0n, good question. check kde control center setup
[01:55] <snorks> Siph0n: I really really recommend ncftp
[01:55] <opnsrc> or Redhat or anything else
[01:56] <LjL> oblib: it depends on the driver i suppose
[01:56] <czr> Siph0n, I'm not sure if you can, but that's the place where it should be if it's possible
[01:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Try Synaptic way first. Else, try good ol fashioned compiling :D
[01:56] <transgress> i like gftp compiled without gtks upport myself
[01:56] <_jason> opnsrc, it runs fine for me.  Try running that command in a terminal and see what it says.
[01:56] <transgress> *gtk
[01:56] <oblib> LjL, what is the command you use to scan?
[01:56] <czr> I use mc for ftp stuff, but I'm silly anyway
[01:56] <Siph0n> k thanx
[01:56] <caravena_> exit
[01:56] <LjL> oblib: scanimage, usually. but xsane works as well, and i sometimes use Kooka from here (my scanner is networked)
[01:56] <caravena_> exit
[01:57] <snorks> lol
[01:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Wow. Im glad I got this Serial modem. Linuxant really stunk.
[01:57] <czr> caravena_, add / before the command ;-)
[01:57] <snorks> cisco flashbacks
[01:57] <oblib> do you have to pass it a parameter to tell it how to find the driver?
[01:57] <opnsrc> bash: firefox: command not found
[01:57] <czr> snorks, most other vendors use similar interfaces nowadays for managed network stuff
[01:57] <opnsrc> Now under my kanotix CD it just runs
[01:57] <opnsrc> no problem
[01:58] <LjL> Siph0n: control center / internet / connection preferences has an option
[01:58] <aedes> has anyone used cupsaddsmb? its asking for a pass but I don't know which pass I need to give it
[01:58] <lampshade> anyone running centrino with the default ubuntu 5.10 distribution or live cd?  Got a quick question for you.  Just wondering if that particular version of the ipw2200 driver supports monitor mode (Since I know the drier does now but I'm not sure it made Ubuntu in time)
[01:58] <_jason> opnsrc, ./firefox
[01:59] <opnsrc> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:59] <opnsrc> (btw, thanks)
[01:59] <LjL> opnsrc: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[01:59] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Anyone know anything about WINE?
[01:59] <snorks> czr: without wildcards, how did you set a certain range of IP addresses to permit/deny in cisco ACLs?
[01:59] <LjL> !tell Biscuitian_Warhe about anyone
[02:00] <opnsrc> There it goes
[02:00] <czr> 192.168.1.0/255.255.128.0 for example
[02:00] <opnsrc> Now it runs. FINALLY!!!
[02:00] <opnsrc> Thanks so much
[02:00] <czr> that will always work, although it is a bit tedious. I prefer using CIDR: 192.168.1.0/17 in that case
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> CIDR++
[02:00] <czr> anyhow, ipv6 uses same notation
[02:00] <oblib> LjL, do you have to pass it a parameter to tell it how to find the driver?
[02:01] <doublea> What do I need to play dvd with dts audio?
[02:01] <_jason> opnsrc, yw... dinner time now, cya
[02:01] <czr> for 'netmak'
[02:01] <czr> mask even :-)
[02:01] <LjL> oblib: no, but i do have to edit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
[02:01] <opnsrc> K, enjoy
[02:01] <opnsrc> thanks _jason and everyone else
[02:01] <czr> doublea, a dts decoder?
[02:01] <czr> doublea, in software obviously
[02:01] <snorks> czr: Thanks for pointing out stuff I really need to work on :) Have some kind of exam 16th dec
[02:02] <navarone> doublea> did mplayer work?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: How's it coming along?
[02:02] <czr> snorks, get a prep book for CCNA if you're feeling shaky
[02:02] <logical_mark> Hey guys what do I install for DVD Playback. I looked on UbunutGuide.org but the package it refrences dosn't exist anymore in the repositories
[02:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell logical_mark about dvd
[02:02] <czr> snorks, sybex had a decent one. just make sure the prep book is not out of date wrt the CCNA exam numbers
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> libcss Somthing.
[02:02] <snorks> czr: I have the latest sybex ccba study guide
[02:03] <czr> I'm sure it explains how to use CIDR-notation then
[02:03] <oblib> LjL, my device is listed in dll.conf, but it is commented out. Does that mean that I just have to uncomment it?
[02:03] <snorks> czr: it's not a ccna tho, it's a self-made exam in my school about general networking and some cisco management
[02:03] <tyler> If i download nvidia-glx through SPM, are those the best possible nvidia drivers available for ubuntu? Because the ones on the nvidia site are way larger...
[02:03] <snorks> czr: however, I still want to ace it
[02:03] <czr> snorks, ah. then I really don't know whether the prep book helps. do you get CCNA certification from the school then?
[02:04] <LjL> oblib: yes. and if i were in you, i'd comment out all the rest, just to be sure
[02:04] <czr> snorks, or are you taking the 'cisco academy' thingy?
[02:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What are the best ATI drivers.. I can seem to get acceleration...
[02:04] <snorks> czr: Neither
[02:04] <tyler> Ive got my ccna :P
[02:04] <tyler> expired actually
[02:04] <doublea> navarone, nope. I can watch the movies but the menus and navigation don't work.
[02:04] <LjL> !tell Biscuitian_Warhe about ATI
[02:04] <snorks> czr: I'm from norway. We can do 2 years here, which are fully accredited at Univ. of Glamorgans' Bachelor of Network Management and Security
[02:04] <snorks> czr: then 3rd year is in Wales
[02:05] <builder> how would I reference stdin from a shell script? in other words if I want to do `cat myfile.txt | my-script.sh`, how would I reference the input from my-script.sh?
[02:05] <tyler> Are the nVidia graphics drivers at nvidia.com better than the nVidia-glx drivers from the SPM?
[02:05] <czr> snorks, right. good for you :-)
[02:05] <oblib> LjL, I run xsane plustek_pp:/dev/lp0 and it reports I/O error. Do you know if there is a problem with that? Is lp0 the parallel port, or does Ubuntu use /dev/parport?
[02:05] <czr> snorks, just do something useful with your time. don't leave it at CCNA :-). ccna is too common to be of any use
[02:05] <snorks> czr: So these 2 years holds no nationalized tests. Just stuff to prepare us for year 3
[02:05] <LjL> builder: can you rephrase that? i'm not sure what you mean. your "my-script.sh" takes input from stdin? and you want to do what?
[02:05] <snorks> czr: errr. international
[02:06] <navarone> doublea> i got dvd working for playback two nights ago...did not try any of the dvd menus tho...just played start to finish without looking for chapters
[02:06] <czr> snorks, how long is the program if one wants to do masters?
[02:06] <LjL> oblib: i suppose lp0 should be fine. try scanimage instead of xsane, though
[02:06] <snorks> czr: 4 years if you wanna spend year 4 doing nothing but masters. Most, however, chose 5 years
[02:06] <LjL> oblib: "scanimage -L" in particular, and also, "sane-find-scanner"
[02:06] <czr> snorks, heh ok. I'm on my 9th year at school ;-)
[02:06] <oblib> scanimage: setting of option --br-x failed (Invalid argument)
[02:06] <snorks> czr: A nice thing is that MI5 recruits master-doers from that univ
[02:06] <czr> didn't go there for 5 of them though now
[02:06] <vbgunz> does gtk-gnutella work any more?
[02:06] <czr> what is so nice about MI5?
[02:07] <snorks> not sure. but it excites me
[02:07] <navarone> vbgunz...yes...i was using it today
[02:07] <czr> snorks, you need to get a life ;-)
[02:07] <LjL> oblib: try giving it "-l 1 -t 1 -x 1 -y 1"
[02:07] <oblib> sane-find-scanner (and I assume scanimage -L) doesn't search the parallel port
[02:07] <vbgunz> navarone: what version do you have?
[02:07] <czr> although don't ask me about it, I've not seen life for many years :-)
[02:07] <oblib> They both default to findign my TV card and scanning images from the TV
[02:07] <snorks> the nailing hackers in a secret service type of way just fascinates me. like on TV
[02:07] <navarone> vbgunz> .95.4
[02:08] <snorks> czr: hehe
[02:08] <doublea> navarone, dvd-playback worked straightaway without menus. And now the dts-sounds seem to be a problem
[02:08] <LjL> oblib: scanimage -L should list all the devices that are supposed to be correctly set-up and working
[02:08] <mzinz> How do i get my home, computer, and other icons on the desktop?
[02:08] <vbgunz> navarone: I have 95.4 stable... But am told it is an old version. I am doing simple searches and nothing is returning...
[02:08] <czr> snorks, it's not that exciting. especially if you're using wrong terminology ;-) (hacker = computer enthusiast, cracker = people who crack into other ppls' systems)
[02:08] <navarone> vbgunz...it gives me same message at bottom...but no problem searching
[02:08] <vbgunz> navarone: :(
[02:08] <snorks> czr: Well, I was a loser at my previous schools. You know thos common high schools and stuff. Didn't interest me at all. But networking really makes me shine
[02:08] <mzinz> Does anyonek now how to make icons appear on desktop?
[02:09] <navarone> vbgunz...how many ultrapeers you have connected?
[02:09] <vbgunz> navarone: it was never like this
[02:09] <LjL> !tell mzinz about desktop-icons
[02:09] <czr> snorks, and if this would have been a channel not related to unix/linux anyway, I would have let the 'hacker' pass ;-)
[02:09] <vbgunz> navarone: pref is connect to 3 *but* I think only one is connected
[02:09] <czr> snorks, wait until you start thinking about queue-theory in QoS. that will make you wish that you would have been more interested in math before :-)
[02:09] <jonathon> hello i need some help working out my java
[02:09] <czr> snorks, networking is quite fun at the start
[02:09] <snorks> czr: Well, I've tried saying cracker in real life. And people are like "what?". So I've stopped
[02:09] <vbgunz> but the host is 0.0.0.0:54771
[02:10] <navarone> vbgunz> I default to 4 ultras...adn i usually wait for them all to connect before doing any searches
[02:10] <czr> snorks, you need to select the correct word depending on who you say it to :-)
[02:10] <snorks> czr: But I'm well aware of it
[02:10] <vbgunz> something is wrong, why am I not connected...?
[02:10] <czr> snorks, good :-). we need to educate people ;-)
[02:10] <czr> although I've long ago given up on educating people
[02:10] <czr> but you're still young ;-)
[02:10] <matt__> hey, can anyone help with setting up a wifi card?
[02:11] <jonathon> i installed java then i installed limewire and it says there is no java but when i type java -version in the console it says
[02:11] <jonathon> ts installed
[02:11] <mzinz> LjL, I can't find the apps directory?
[02:11] <navarone> vbgunz...go to Gnutella-net tab and clear all the cahces at bottom right that may help
[02:11] <czr> urgh. 5.10 is still using xf86?
[02:11] <snorks> How will I know if they know enough to be taught the difference between hacker and cracker?
[02:11] <czr> snorks, if you speak to people on a linux-related channel, that is a big clue :-)
[02:11] <navarone> vbgunz> sry...Gnutella Net/Hostcache
[02:12] <vbgunz> navarone: I cannot clear anything... they all seemed to be cleared already
[02:12] <LjL> mzinz: it's not a directory. you should run the GConf Editor and change some keys. those are keys
[02:12] <snorks> czr: #ubuntu, sure?
[02:12] <mzinz> LjL, ohh
[02:12] <czr> snorks, #ubuntu has something to do with linux, I think ;-)
[02:12] <navarone> vbgunz> how many connecting currently?
[02:12] <snorks> czr: you get my point
[02:12] <jonathon> yo anyone got limewire installed/
[02:12] <czr> sure, and you get mine :-)
[02:12] <mzinz> LjL, wheres the editor at? sorry
[02:12] <snorks> yes
[02:13] <vbgunz> navarone: I never messed with this app before but just once and it seemed to work perfectly.... Now though, nothing different and it seems not to be connected at alll... I couldn't clear the cache either :(
[02:13] <eric> I have reinstalled firefox twice through Synaptic and it still WILL NOT start, I get the following error even if I uninstall firefox rm -fr ~/.mozilla and reboot and reinstall firefox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5288
[02:13] <matt__> Trying to get either a prisim3 USB WiFi or broadcom PCMCIA adapter working.
[02:13] <matt__> any tips?
[02:13] <eric> has anyone ever seen that error?
[02:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eric: Why not just compile it or d/l it from mozilla.org?
[02:13] <czr> ah, I thought that 5.10 was broken. but nay, it is I who is broken
[02:14] <navarone> vbgunz> hmm..try shutting down gnutella and restarting...<?>
[02:14] <eric> Biscuitian_Warhe, cause its easier to mange and upgrade packages through mozilla
[02:14] <eric> Anyone got any other ideas
[02:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eric:...?
[02:14] <mzinz> I have a dell inspiron 5150 laptop.  Where in the SPM could I find drivers for my wireless network card?
[02:14] <eric> Biscuitian_Warhe, i meant easier to manage and upgrade packages through synaptic and apt get
[02:14] <vbgunz> navarone: I just did that... I could have sworn remember seeing a whole list of servers under GnutellaNet Connections but nothing is in there at all anymore... Is that right?
[02:14] <jonathon> is it my imagination or does gnome run alot quicker than kde
[02:15] <LjL> mzinz: i'm not sure where it is in the menus, but run "gconf-editor" from a shell
[02:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eric: True.. but where's the "Linux Thrill".. Lol
[02:15] <mzinz> LjL, k
[02:15] <LjL> mzinz: if that doesn't work, then you don't have it installed, in which case, "sudo aptitude install gconf-editor"
[02:15] <navarone> vbgunz> I have five connections...my own and 4 ultrapeers
[02:15] <oblib> LjL, so I commented out all the other drivers and it says no scanners found
[02:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonathon: KDE = Special effects which in turn = Lower memory
[02:15] <vbgunz> navarone: your own is 0.0.0.0:*?
[02:15] <snorks> czr: I haven't used vmware very much, but how good is it?
[02:16] <eric> Biscuitian_Warhe, i meant easier to manage and upgrade packages through synaptic and apt get
[02:16] <eric> I have reinstalled firefox twice through Synaptic and it still WILL NOT start, I get the following error even if I uninstall firefox rm -fr ~/.mozilla and reboot and reinstall firefox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5288
[02:16] <navarone> vbgunz...no...my own is my ip address...
[02:16] <rjek> Evening.
[02:16] <mzinz> I have a dell inspiron 5150 laptop.  Where in the SPM could I find drivers for my wireless network card?
[02:16] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, all the effects can be disabled which make kde faster than gnome though
[02:16] <jonathon> is c better than c++?
[02:16] <LjL> oblib: i dunno :(
[02:16] <czr> snorks, it is good
[02:16] <snorks> czr: Thanks :) Just the answer I wanted
[02:16] <czr> snorks, best virtualization software for x86
[02:16] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, i have alsa-utils installed but i still cant use alsaconf
[02:16] <czr> snorks, except for fringe cases
[02:16] <vbgunz> hmmm... I know my IP but the one in my list starts with 0.0.0.0* I thought that IP represented me... man, I really feel ambushed :P
[02:17] <czr> snorks, if you'd want to run linux under linux, then probably uml or xen might be enough
[02:17] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you do it through Synaptic? Or did you try compiling yet?
[02:17] <snorks> czr: the vmware client for linux, it's good aswell?
[02:17] <rjek> Anybody familier with random X server crashes under Breezy AMD64 that didn't occur under Hoary?  I'm using the closed NVIDIA drivers, as the free ones cause screen corruption (I've not tried using them long enough to see if they also crash.)  Windows doesn't fail on the same hardware.
[02:17] <czr> snorks, but setting them up requires quite a lot of tinkering. vmware is simple and easy
[02:17] <SpAwN> i used synaptic
[02:17] <oblib> LjL, thanks for trying
[02:17] <czr> snorks, err, not vmware client. just vmware :-)
[02:17] <fangorious> does having 'map eth1' in the 'mapping hotplug' section of /etc/network/interfaces mean eth1 will be brought up when the hotplug system is loaded at boot?
[02:17] <LjL> snorks: it's not a client. i think it's as good as the one for windows anyway
[02:17] <SpAwN> so i should download it tar.gz
[02:17] <mzinz> LjL, i checked all of the boxes but there still isn't anything on my desktop.  I double checked also.
[02:17] <SpAwN> any idea whats it called or where i can dl it
[02:17] <czr> snorks, runs better on linux than on windows because windows is unstable anyway (based on my 6 years vmware experience at least)
[02:17] <oblib> Anyone know what the default parallel port is called in Ubuntu? /dev/lp0 or /dev/parport?
[02:17] <vbgunz> navarone: maybe uninstalling it?
[02:18] <navarone> vbgunz> does it show your ip address in preferences/network?
[02:18] <snorks> czr: Ok, nice :-)
[02:18] <vbgunz> navarone: no
[02:18] <LjL> mzinz: hmm... i don't actually have Gnome installed, so i wouldn't be sure :\
[02:18] <vbgunz> navarone: put my ip[ in there and force it?
[02:18] <navarone> vbgunz...what options you have set in network?
[02:18] <czr> I've run production windows-boxes inside vmware on top of linux so that they don't trip over all the time. even windows is almost rock solid that way ;-)
[02:19] <mzinz> Is there a simple way to enable my wireless card?
[02:19] <vbgunz> navarone: listen port 54771 and udp checked... everything else, well nothing else checked
[02:19] <redeeman> anyone here using snd-usb-audio?
[02:19] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey guys, looking for help with a postfix on ubuntu 5.10 error - the error log is here http://pastebin.com/445620.  Any ideas, give us a shout
[02:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Hold on.
[02:19] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe,  k np
[02:19] <LjL> mzinz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqsection_view?section=Using%20Ubuntu  <--- this says it's actually /apps/nautilus/general
[02:19] <quacker> Hmmm... what do you guys recommend for a console port comm program  for Ubuntu (to connect to DTE like routers and external modems)?
[02:19] <rjek> quacker: minicom works for me.
[02:20] <navarone> vbgunz...hmmm..my listen port is different but I don't think that's an issue
[02:20] <rjek> quacker: There's a GNOME GUI thingy too, but I forget its name.
[02:20] <czr> hmm. there was a simpler one. minicom is a modem control program really
[02:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN:www.alsa-project.org/
[02:20] <vbgunz> navarone: maybe uninstalling it will help? I only used it once before *but* now it is acting as if something is really messed up...
[02:20] <czr> although I must confess I end up using minicom too because I forget the other sw name all the time ;-)
[02:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Get the tar.gzs for alsa-driver, alsa-lib, and alsa-utils.. should all be 1.09x
[02:20] <Red-Sox> how does ubuntu pay the bills?
[02:20] <mzinz> LjL, thanks.  maybe i just need a restart.  there is no /apps/nautils/general directory btw, heh
[02:20] <SpAwN> ah thanks alot Biscuitian_Warhe
[02:20] <navarone> vbgunz> in gnutella net tab in preferences are you set to auto configure mode?
[02:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: Day jobs?
[02:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Still gotta get through the compiling though.. Lol
[02:21] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:21] <SpAwN> yea
[02:21] <vbgunz> navarone: yes :(
[02:21] <vbgunz> navarone:  I am going to try reinstall
[02:21] <LjL> mzinz: yeah i suppose you should definitely try restarting X
[02:21] <vbgunz> navarone: I hope that works
[02:21] <navarone> vbgunz...okie...good luck
[02:21] <czr> Red-Sox, canonical and volunteer work of debian and other projects
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ahh..crud...
[02:22] <Red-Sox> czr: what about the ShipIt CDs?
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Anyone have any trouble installing xorg-driver-fglrx.
[02:22] <czr> Red-Sox, I'd imagine canonical pays for them. although I don't really know. look for people who actually work for canonical
[02:22] <czr> Red-Sox, shuttleworth has a lot of money :-)
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> It gives me an error about clashing with diversion of libGl.so.1
[02:22] <Red-Sox> czr: i dont have the money to make a generous donation, I only have $10, but I can donate that
[02:23] <Red-Sox> czr: im just a kid ;)
[02:23] <czr> Red-Sox, you can donate your time then. help writing documentation or helping people
[02:23] <existance> !ATI
[02:23] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:23] <Red-Sox> czr: im not nearly expeirenced enough, iv been giving out CDs, if that helps
[02:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: I know the feeling..
[02:24] <czr> Red-Sox, I'm not the right person to answer these questions though
[02:24] <Red-Sox> czr: i suppose I could write documents... wikis about stuff i know about
[02:24] <czr> Red-Sox, wikis are a simple start
[02:24] <Red-Sox> Biscuitian_Warhe: are you in 7th grade too
[02:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox.. No, 9th, but I was once in the 7th. :-P
[02:25] <Red-Sox> Biscuitian_Warhe: yes, i c
[02:25] <snorks> Red-Sox: Just don't stop/give up
[02:25] <vbgunz> navarone: don't get it, I uninstalled/restarted gtk-gnutella and still have problems with it... I really don't get it. It worked once for me just fine... now, problems :(
[02:25] <Red-Sox> snorks: no chance of that
[02:25] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'm older than you, and I wish I started at your age
[02:25] <vbgunz> navarone: on your front tab "gnutella connections tab" do you see a list of connections or only one?
[02:26] <Red-Sox> snorks: started what>
[02:26] <Red-Sox> ?*
[02:26] <Red-Sox> ducky_: hello
[02:26] <snorks> Red-Sox: Linux.. networking. Developing an interest for that sort of things. And stay away from games
[02:26] <snorks> Red-Sox: Especially MMORPGs
[02:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I wish I started younger.. I can't believe I once believed in Windows.
[02:26] <Kayde> i need help w/th ubuntu
[02:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Thats a good start.
[02:27] <z3r0x> hi guys
[02:27] <Kayde> ?
[02:27] <snorks> Red-Sox: But don't forget to be your age :)
[02:27] <niggpie> The default bittorrent client is downloading extremely slowly (like <1kb/s).  How do I change it's default port to the one I've opened up in the router?
[02:27] <SpAwN> hmm i still get checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. ...im pretty sure i installed the right kernel-source...in synaptic now i dont even see the same version as when i do uname -a ...and i need this to compile :/
[02:27] <navarone> vbgunz> I have connections listed...as a matter of fact I am dl'ing songs as we type
[02:27] <n0dl> how do i mount a dvd r?
[02:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you install the headers?
[02:27] <Red-Sox> snorks: games... oops! im building a gaming computer as we speek er... speak*
[02:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: There on your Breezy Disk.
[02:27] <z3r0x> I have a little problem. I installed an irc bot at home on my server but I can't connect over DCC from outside. The bot is working it is connecting to the channel. Does anybody know what port I have to open?
[02:27] <vbgunz> navarone: :(
[02:28] <navarone> nodl> it should automount when you insert in drive
[02:28] <vbgunz> navarone: good for you though ;)
[02:28] <SpAwN> hmm i need ..umm kernel headers?
[02:28] <snorks> Red-Sox: Just stay away from everquest and world of warcraft and games like that
[02:28] <n0dl> navarone, even if i am using xfce?
[02:28] <Kayde> i have a problem-i have uzzy stuff at bottom of ubuntu screen
[02:28] <navarone> vbgunz> where are you in world?
[02:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah.
[02:28] <vbgunz> Florida America
[02:28] <crschmidt> If you're going to format a 300GB drive, which will store about 30GB of mp3s and about 270GB of movies... what filesystem do you use?
[02:28] <Kayde> can i show screen shot?
[02:28] <Red-Sox> snorks: i have never heard of them... i play arcade games and also some spacey-type games
[02:28] <snorks> Red-Sox: Excellent :)
[02:28] <navarone> nodl...no idea about xfce...but it installs fstab editor...maybe you can get the drives to mount there
[02:29] <Kayde> can some1 assist me ?!
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: Yes, be careful of MMORPGS.. life sucking they are...
[02:29] <SpAwN> hmm synaptic says i already have them installed
[02:29] <existance> i have a pci and an agp graphics card/ monitors for them.  I can only get a display on the PCI one, how can i make the AGP the primary?
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Whats the problem.
[02:29] <n0dl> what does this mean? mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you ever compile anything else?
[02:29] <crschmidt> n0dl: you probably want to mount /dev/hdd<number>
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> n0dl: What are you trying to mount?
[02:29] <SpAwN> i have yes
[02:29] <SpAwN> on mandriva
[02:29] <snorks> Red-Sox: I spent 5 years playing EverQuest, I was in a guild (clan) that is now the best in the world. It screwed my "education" over. Luckily I'm doing an interesting education now
[02:29] <Red-Sox> i dont think ill be playing any
[02:29] <n0dl> Biscuitian_Warhe, a dvd r
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: No I mean on this current system.
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh
[02:30] <SpAwN> ive compiled several programs
[02:30] <SpAwN> ohh no
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> n0dl: Can't help you there.
[02:30] <SpAwN> i havent been ablt to
[02:30] <existance> i have a pci and an agp graphics card/ monitors for them.  I can only get a display on the PCI one, how can i make the AGP the primary?
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Alrite
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Hold on a tick.
[02:30] <navarone> vbgunz...try disabling the udp option and see if that helps
[02:30] <SpAwN> np
[02:30] <Kayde> warhe...private chat
[02:30] <Red-Sox> snorks: i will stay away, i want to go to William and Mary and study law, world of warcraft wont get me there
[02:30] <niggpie> I'm using the default Bittorrent client for Ubuntu.  Can someone tell me what port it is using by default?  How can I change this port?  I can't seem to find the option anywhere.. please help! :)
[02:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> existance check that your primary card is agp in thew bios
[02:30] <snorks> Red-Sox: Good! You passed the exam. Good luck with lawschool
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Why? Why not ask your question out to all of us?
[02:30] <SpAwN> i just reinstalled the headers..let me try again...i think it upgraded them or somthing
[02:31] <existance> The_Isle_of_Mark, it is in Windows, so shouldn't it be here?
[02:31] <n0dl> crcshmidt how do i check which number my hdd is?
[02:31] <Red-Sox> snorks: what exam?
[02:31] <SpAwN> crap nope...still same error
[02:31] <snorks> Red-Sox: The exam of telling me the correct answer
[02:31] <n0dl> crcshmidt i mean my dvd rom is?
[02:31] <czr> snorks, http://koltsoff.com/wtf2.png
[02:31] <vbgunz> navarone: I just completely unstalled it again... the first time reinstall picked up on all the old settings... So I really cleaned it out this time
[02:31] <czr> the window in middle is vmware running ubuntu 5.10
[02:31] <crschmidt> n0dl: oh, you're trying to mount a DVD, you probably want some kind of other magic
[02:31] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, lol, i thought you ment the college application
[02:31] <Red-Sox> lol
[02:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: You any good with a terminal?
[02:31] <n0dl> magic what?
[02:31] <SpAwN> i know my way around
[02:32] <Kayde> cos noone listening
[02:32] <SpAwN> not a expert
[02:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> existance no. If windows is set to have it as primary, it is software
[02:32] <n0dl> does anyone here know how to mount a dvd?
[02:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Alrite, pop in the breezy disk, and navigate to the pool folder on it.
[02:32] <Kayde> lookat scfreen shot...
[02:32] <navarone> vbgunz...yeah...uninstall config files as well
[02:32] <existance> The_Isle_of_Mark, mm, i'll go check then
[02:32] <Kayde> fuzzy at bottom of screen
[02:32] <Kayde> cant read
[02:32] <SpAwN> k one sec Biscuitian_Warhe
[02:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Try your AutoSet button on your monitor.
[02:33] <Kayde> its a laptop
[02:33] <vbgunz> navarone: hmm.. the connection is the same... the only thing now I see different is the port is now 46766
[02:33] <Kayde> and it dosnt have
[02:33] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, k im there
[02:33] <vbgunz> what port do you have instead of 0.0.0.0 represting yoursef;? 127*, 192* or a public IP address?
[02:33] <Kayde> ...
[02:34] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dont think i would be allowed to play games like that anyway
[02:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Alrite, cd to main/l/linux-source-2.6.12
[02:34] <snorks> Red-Sox: because of parental guidance?
[02:34] <Kayde> is there a auto select driver?
[02:34] <navarone> vbgunz...I have my dynamic ip used.
[02:34] <Red-Sox> snorks: yes, sir
[02:34] <Kayde> or somthing to auto do it?
[02:34] <jason0_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a resized windows partition, however it won't seem to take it. When I resize a partition it says unusable. I have 3 partitions windows, fc4, and now ubuntu, any ideas?
[02:34] <vbgunz> navarone: ok
[02:35] <snorks> Red-Sox: Well they are rather non-violent. But that is about 0,001% of the damaging part
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jason0_: A partition table can only have 4 primary partitions.
[02:35] <snorks> Red-Sox: They steal time. And lots of it.
[02:35] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, what do I know?
[02:35] <rohan> hello
[02:35] <jason0_> Biscuitian_Warhe: Interesting... So that is per drive then, correct?
[02:35] <Red-Sox> snorks: time is a good thing ;)
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Im not sure there...
[02:35] <Red-Sox> rohan: hi
[02:35] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, k
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jason0_:Yeah, it is.
[02:35] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'm glad you don't, really :) You can play them once you're a lawyer
[02:35] <IRCsloth> is it possible to tell ubuntu dpkg to ignore a package? The update tool it trying to update a custom package with a vanilla package from the repos
[02:35] <Kayde> it worked on wondows xp etc
[02:36] <Kayde> **windows**
[02:36] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, technically a classic pc partition table can have only 4 partition entries
[02:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: lol
[02:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: not in my office ;P
[02:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Now, sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb
[02:36] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, if a partition type is 5, it means that there is another partition table to be read starting from the location of this partition on disk :-)
[02:36] <snorks> Red-Sox: Hehe. Once you're done with education and got a job is what I meant.
[02:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: i know
[02:36] <Red-Sox> lol
[02:37] <vbgunz> navarone: your gnutella hostcache... in your list do you have numbers OR 0's all around the board on that screen?
[02:37] <snorks> Red-Sox: Name some of the games you play. Of course you know
[02:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: You mean Youcan have more partition tables on a hdd?
[02:37] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, technically. blame dos 2.1 for mucking up all the terminology
[02:37] <benkong2> where is the boot splash located in breezy?
[02:37] <Red-Sox> snorks: i enjoy pac-man, battlezone II, galaga, dig dug
[02:37] <snorks> benkong2: wild shot, maybe /boot/grub. i have no idea
[02:38] <Red-Sox> snorks: and star wats battlefront II
[02:38] <bimberi> IRCsloth: in synaptic you can "Lock Version" a package (via the Package menu).  I'm not totally sure what it does but it does look promising for what you want :)
[02:38] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, a partition table can only fit 4. ever. hence if you have 'extended', it actually means that the extended ones are listed in another partition table
[02:38] <navarone> vbgunz> I have 100 regular host, 48% ultrapeers and a few bad hosts in cache
[02:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> benkong2: Search for Usplash
[02:38] <snorks> benkong2: I was wrong
[02:38] <Kayde> IS there and auto dectect functions on this>??
[02:38] <IRCsloth> bimberi: thanks a lot
[02:38] <jason0_> So if I use the installer to resize an existing ntfs partition on another drive I should be okay? Is it going to screw up my existing grub config?
[02:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: It working out for you?
[02:39] <SpAwN> no
[02:39] <SpAwN> ill pasting in pastebin
[02:39] <vbgunz> navarone: nothing can get me more upset than this :( No real reason why it should not work yet it acts retarded...
[02:39] <benkong2> Biscuitian_Warhe; snorks; thanks there is no splashimage line in menu.lst so i want to add one but i don't know where the current one is loading from
[02:39] <czr> resizing ntfs fails sometimes even with commercial tools
[02:39] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe,  http://pastebin.com/445654
[02:39] <bimberi> IRCsloth: np :)
[02:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> No one likes NTFS.
[02:39] <jason0_> czr: Ive had luck in the past.
[02:39] <SpAwN> yea use vfat
[02:39] <Red-Sox> snorks: do you know any of them?
[02:39] <SpAwN> ntfs is no good
[02:39] <czr> jason0_, indeed
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: No, only know the names. I only played mmorpgs
[02:40] <Kayde> c-mon is there another chat i can get tech help w/th?
[02:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Oh sorry dude, my bad.
[02:40] <czr> Kayde, what's your problem?
[02:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Lemme get you the other thing first.
[02:40] <navarone> vbgunz> I will give you url to install phex...it si client for gnutella that runs in java...if you have java installed already it will work fine. It is a bit more user friendly than the basic gnutella-gtk
[02:40] <SpAwN> wrong version?
[02:40] <Red-Sox> snorks: exactly how old are you?
[02:40] <SpAwN> ahh k
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: 21
[02:40] <vbgunz> my gnutellanet connections is completely empty, my hostcache is 0's all around the board... It isn't even like I use gtk-gnutella but only once... Never configured it or anything... this shouldn't be happening...
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: saying 22 would be more correct
[02:40] <Kayde> my monitor is fuzzy i have a laptop
[02:40] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, okay,
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: you?
[02:40] <Red-Sox> snorks: i am 12
[02:41] <SpAwN> Kayde, probly the refresh
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb
[02:41] <czr> Kayde, you have an external monitor connected to a laptop? or you mean the built-in flat screen of laptop?
[02:41] <Kayde> ive restarted it 5 times
[02:41] <SpAwN> i had that prob with this puter
[02:41] <frogzoo> !kismet
[02:41] <Kayde> built-in flat screen of laptop?
[02:41] <ubotu> frogzoo: What?
[02:41] <vbgunz> navarone: thanks, I'll take the url and if worse comes to worse will check it out, although I wuold like to keep gtk-gnutella
[02:41] <sethk> Kayde, as SpAwN said, some laptops do weird things if the refresh isn't set to 60
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Just a little dependecy thing.. I forget the thing all the time.
[02:41] <snorks> Red-Sox: you'll have about 9 years of hands-on linux experience compared to me, if you don't give up :) I find that very cool
[02:41] <Kayde> it is set to 60mhtz
[02:41] <SpAwN> ahh now i can install the 1st thing right?
[02:41] <snorks> Red-Sox: when you reach my age I mean
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Try jumping it up a bit
[02:41] <sethk> Kayde, I doubt it, but it may be set to 60 hz  :)
[02:41] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dont really have an alternative to linux
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah
[02:42] <czr> Kayde, the screen of laptop. you can normally also connect another monitor to laptops. that's why I ask
[02:42] <snorks> Red-Sox: Ah. Lawschool... legit win xp copies. Gotcha
[02:42] <czr> Kayde, set where?
[02:42] <Kayde> yea ...is=i know, i have norm laptop
[02:42] <_jason> Red-Sox, 12... bah wish I hadn't wasted so much of my time on windows and installed linux like you at the age of 12
[02:42] <sethk> Kayde, we're talking about the vertical, now, not the horizontal
[02:42] <SpAwN> yea Kayde i had to add 2 lines to my xorg.conf
[02:42] <benkong2> how can i turn dma on in breezy? hdparm -d1 done as root says permission denied
[02:42] <germancito> hello
[02:42] <Kayde> it is 60mhtz
[02:42] <czr> 60Hz?
[02:42] <sethk> benkong2, use sudo
[02:42] <Red-Sox> snorks, _jason: I am boycotting windows for several reasons ;)
[02:42] <sethk> Kayde, no, it isn't
[02:42] <SpAwN> hmm i had the 2 lines written donw some where
[02:42] <germancito> please tell me how to get rid of the hda1 and hda7 links on my Deskyop
[02:42] <sethk> Kayde, there is no such thing as _any_ video setting in the  mhz range
[02:43] <Kayde>  we're talking about the vertical, now, not the horizontal??? i am confused
[02:43] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeargh. I can't install the xorg ati drivers bcuz of the nvidia ones.. and I can't get rid of the nvidia ones.. yeargh.
[02:43] <snorks> Red-Sox: You fascinate me
[02:43] <SpAwN> there like Vertrefrsh and Horizrefrsh....
[02:43] <sethk> Kayde, I think you are talking about the card's clock frequency
[02:43] <guru54_> lol snorks
[02:43] <sethk> Kayde, which is irrelevant
[02:43] <benkong2> sethk; how do i make it permanet?
[02:43] <Red-Sox> snorks: why?
[02:43] <snorks> well he does
[02:43] <navarone> vbgunz...yeah gnutella-gtk is nice...although i have nota  clue how to use the filters yet
[02:43] <sethk> benkong2, it's very odd that it isn'
[02:43] <sethk> benkong2, it's very odd that it isn't the default
[02:43] <czr> kayde, what happens if you comment both of the frequency lines in the config? and also, did it work before?
[02:43] <guru54_> i know many kids like him snorks
[02:43] <sethk> benkong2, see if it works, first
[02:43] <_jason> Red-Sox, *cough* if only you were a yankees fan too
[02:43] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, they both installed fine thanks
[02:43] <dpupp-away> benkong2: sudo hdparam -d1 /dev/cdrom0
[02:43] <benkong2> sethk; ok
[02:43] <dpupp-away> benkong2: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom0
[02:43] <Kayde> i am confused! and yes it worked on Windows XP pro
[02:43] <benkong2> k
[02:43] <Red-Sox> _jason: lol, 2004 world champs
[02:43] <existance> !Nvidia
[02:44] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:44] <sethk> benkong2, many cds don't do dma
[02:44] <vbgunz> navarone: I got your message, thanks! If gtk-gnutella insist on acting up, I'll check the alternatives although I really would like to keep it :(
[02:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Alrite, extract the alsa folders, do the driver first, then lib, then utils
[02:44] <snorks> Red-Sox: Because you've discovered the path of true inner peace at the age of 12. It's fascinating
[02:44] <czr> benkong2, some cdromd/dvdroms are broken with dma btw
[02:44] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, i see
[02:44] <czr> benkong2, if your system freezes, don't set dma on the drive again
[02:44] <benkong2> sethk no this is for /dev/hda
[02:44] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, 10-4
[02:44] <SpAwN> will do now
[02:44] <guru54_> i started tearing apart and rebuild computers in 4th grade with my uncle and he taught me cobol snausages
[02:44] <snorks> Red-Sox: However, I fear windows vista will be good :/
[02:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwNL Roger Roger.
[02:44] <sethk> benkong2, then why were people saying /dev/cdrom?
[02:44] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:44] <navarone> vbgunz...I have both installed...no need to drop one for the other...try phex and if it suits your needs you needn't tinker with gnutella-gtk any further
[02:44] <czr> kaybe, windows xp uses different drivers. I meant that if it worked before in Linux or not :-)
[02:45] <czr> kayde, sry
[02:45] <Agrajag> snorks: oh don't worry about that
[02:45] <snorks> czr: your thoughts of windows vista ?
[02:45] <Kayde> it works on knoppix3.8.2
[02:45] <guru54_> only think that surprises me about you Red-Sox is that you are choosing law over a computer field
[02:45] <Red-Sox> snorks: im not like the other kids, but I think it is a bad thing, I mean, I have lots of friends and everyone likes me, its just that im different, and I see that, and Im not sure if its good :/
[02:45] <czr> snorks, I don't think about windows. I have interesting stuff to think about.
[02:45] <Kayde> it works on knoppix3.8.2
[02:45] <snorks> czr: lol, like a bot reply
[02:45] <czr> kayde, aha. that is good
[02:45] <SpAwN> bah i STILL get the same error
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: You remind me so much of me at that age.. Lol
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Whats the error?
[02:45] <Agrajag> guru54_: that's good, the world needs IP lawyers that want to defend the GPL
[02:45] <czr> kayde, where did you try to edit the frequences? (or did you edit them anywhere)?
[02:46] <luisito> anyone here uses the aluminum alloy themes?
[02:46] <czr> snorks, but it is true :-)
[02:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Oh wait, go to that folder, and rename the sources  thing to linux
[02:46] <sethk> Red-Sox, it isn't good and it isn't bad, it's just you
[02:46] <czr> my ex gfs did mention that I'm not human
[02:46] <guru54_> only think is Agrajag is that ever person i know in law i hate
[02:46] <sethk> Red-Sox, don't worry about it, and just be what you are.
[02:46] <SpAwN> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[02:46] <SpAwN> Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[02:46] <SpAwN> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[02:46] <SpAwN> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[02:46] <vbgunz> navarone: I am really upset but a bit relieved... gtk-gnutella doesn't work on my other system either... Maybe it has something to do with my router? It is the only thing *but* PCs have in common *but* the router didn't seem to mess with gtk before...
[02:46] <sethk> Red-Sox, I've been that way for 40 years longer than you, so trust me.  :)
[02:46] <Kayde> i clicked: System, preferences, screen resoulution
[02:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Its just not looking in the right place.. Lol
[02:46] <Red-Sox> guru54_: well... Im a good argurer... or however you spell that, anyway, I am very interested in it
[02:46] <SpAwN> lol
[02:46] <snorks> Red-Sox: Same here. Whereas my friends likes to waste money on alcohol and cigarettes and "having fun", I often have to say no because I spend my money on an education. And sometimes that makes me feel bad. But in reality, I'm He-Man compared to them
[02:46] <SpAwN> well where is it located?
[02:46] <gallonegro_> does openoffice word.. does it have options for tabs?
[02:47] <Kayde> i clicked: System, preferences, screen resoulution
[02:47] <czr> Kayde, did you change resolution?
[02:47] <snorks> czr: But really :/
[02:47] <Kayde> yup
[02:47] <guru54_> lol snorks
[02:47] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, Nvidia driver?
[02:47] <Red-Sox> snorks: well, good for you
[02:47] <czr> snorks, I don't think about it. it doesn't contain anything interesting
[02:47] <SpAwN> umm no alsa
[02:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Go to usr/src
[02:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And tell me what you see
[02:47] <SpAwN> i have NO sound!!!!!!
[02:47] <guru54_> i need to stop spending 10 bucks ever weekend on whiskey lol snorks
[02:47] <czr> kayde, can you change the resolution back, if that helps?
[02:47] <snorks> Red-Sox: In what way do you feel you're different?
[02:47] <czr> Kayde, or has the screen always been fuzzy in ubuntu?
[02:47] <Kayde> it dosnt help
[02:47] <SpAwN> 2 folders and 2 archive
[02:48] <benkong2> snorks; ok it works now is there a place where dma param can be passed on boot so that they are loaded with each boot?
[02:48] <czr> kayde, does the resolution at least change?
[02:48] <SpAwN> alsa-driver.tar.bz2     linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[02:48] <Kayde> i installed ubuntu 10 min ago...
[02:48] <czr> kayde, ah. ok
[02:48] <existance> can i have nvidia and ATI drivers at the same time?
[02:48] <SpAwN> and theres a alsa-driver folder too
[02:48] <Kayde> i installed ubuntu 10 min ago...---and ive tried all resolutions
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Rename linux-headers one to linux
[02:48] <benkong2> in gentoo i an use /etc/conf.d/rc and put them there and they are loaded
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> There try again
[02:48] <SpAwN> ahh
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> existance: So far.. for me.. no. Lol
[02:48] <navarone> vbgunz...I am not an expert in routers...but perhaps your router is dyanmically blocking traffic it thinks it unrequested...<?>
[02:48] <snorks> benkong2: Hm, are you sure you're supposed to talk to me? I didn't help you yet :/
[02:48] <czr> kayde, do the resolutions actually change when you try them?
[02:48] <Kayde> ubuntu has not worked  in the 10 min
[02:48] <existance> Bisuitian_Warhe: h,,
[02:48] <Kayde> yup...
[02:48] <SpAwN> whats the command to rename a whole dir?
[02:48] <existance> Bisuitian_Warhe: hmm rather
[02:48] <Kayde> oi!
[02:48] <guru54_> Red-Sox, dont start partying, im only 18 and im already tired of it, waste of money and waste of good health
[02:48] <benkong2> snorks; sorry my bad /me /*sighs
[02:48] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dunno, its kinda hard to explain er... well... im, um... like... i feel like i think differently, my brain works differently, im not like everyone else
[02:48] <sethk> SpAwN, mv
[02:48] <rsbuntu> can i install additional program off line?
[02:48] <oxez> SpAwN: mv 'old dir' 'new dir'
[02:49] <SpAwN> ahh
[02:49] <czr> Kayde, oi?
[02:49] <Red-Sox> guru54_: okay
[02:49] <Kayde> resolutin=on ---wen screen smaller it workes but,
[02:49] <sethk> SpAwN, in unix a directory and a file are treated the same way w.r.t. names
[02:49] <snorks> Red-Sox: Haha you just own
[02:49] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'm so on your level
[02:49] <Kayde> resolutin=on ---wen screen smaller it workes but,io can see much oin my screen
[02:49] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dont understand
[02:49] <existance> where is grub installed to?
[02:49] <guru54_> lol Red-Sox quick question you look at something complicated and you can just tell how it works
[02:49] <guru54_> ?
[02:50] <navarone> RedSox> maybe you're like Einstein...but with tamer hair hopefully...;)
[02:50] <existance> ahh, i'm an idiot
[02:50] <SpAwN> hmmwhich should i rename... then newer one? linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[02:50] <snorks> Red-Sox: Today I got a ride home from a friend. And his girlfriend was there. And she was yabbing away, and I was like "OH MY GOD she is stupid" inside me... it's as if I'm alot smarter than them. And I think in other ways aswell
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, sounds like a bug in XFree86 graphics driver
[02:50] <Red-Sox> guru54_: that sounds exactly right, like in math i can figure out short cuts to make it easier
[02:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah
[02:50] <snorks> Red-Sox: I can't really talk about that here
[02:50] <Kayde> ...?
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, knoppix uses much newer X server (the program that sends the graphics update commands to display)
[02:50] <snorks> Red-Sox: Maybe if we both lived in Amsterdam and this wasn't #ubuntu
[02:50] <Kayde> wat do i do?
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, ubuntu for some reason uses very old version
[02:50] <Red-Sox> snorks: lol
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, let's ask :-)
[02:50] <Kayde> ddat sux
[02:50] <Red-Sox> navarone: i doubt it
[02:50] <guru54_> yea Red-Sox its logic, you have a logical brain
[02:50] <czr> does anyone know how to upgrade xorg on ubuntu?
[02:51] <czr> 5.10 seems to be carrying still xf86
[02:51] <Red-Sox> guru54_: that sounds good, I think I like that
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, there are reasons for that
[02:51] <Kayde> ohh
[02:51] <SpAwN> ahh sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biscuitian_Warhe its compiling and it worke
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, but in your case they're the wrong reasons ;-)
[02:51] <SpAwN> thanks a whole bunch
[02:51] <navarone> snorks> I think there are all kinds or intelligence...analytical, emotional...even physical. I think intelligence is just the ability to adjust to new stimuli and process it
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, give me a sec, I'll google a bit
[02:51] <Kayde> so ubuntu it will never work!
[02:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Woot. I'll stay here till you have sound a blaring though :)
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, it will work if we replace the X server with a proper version
[02:52] <SpAwN> lol
[02:52] <Red-Sox> snorks: are you going to college?
[02:52] <czr> Kayde, it might not be simple though
[02:52] <SpAwN> thanks bro
[02:52] <Kayde> uh oh...
[02:52] <czr> Kayde, give me a moment, I'll check first
[02:52] <Kayde> im not very good at pc's
[02:52] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'll give you an example ok? A friend tried to fix his step-machine. You know, one of those workout machines. A nut had fallen off a screw. He couldn't fix it
[02:52] <existance> uh... i just installed nvidia drivers, why can't I go to a higher resolution than 1024 x 768?
[02:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Anytime.
[02:52] <guru54_> Red-Sox, it will help in life, you can logically see why someone did that they did to make something happen or build something
[02:52] <snorks> Red-Sox: I tried, turned the nut the other way (since some screws are reversed) and it worked
[02:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> existance: Is it in your xorg thingey?
[02:52] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, i see
[02:52] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'd say university
[02:53] <Kayde> existance uh... i just installed nvidia drivers, why can't I go to a higher resolution than 1024 x 768? --i have same prob
[02:53] <existance> Biscuitian_Warhe, not sure, i just followed the instructions at the website :/
[02:53] <snorks> Red-Sox: And that really fascinated him, and he started calling me "the fixer"
[02:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: After this, im formating this drive and poof up to breezy.
[02:53] <guru54_> snorks, you mean a left thread ;)
[02:53] <Red-Sox> guru54_: is that why i am good at puzzles?
[02:53] <Red-Sox> snorks: lol
[02:53] <snorks> guru54_: Probably, don't know the english word for it
[02:53] <Toma-> Kayde: becuase you havent added the higher display res. to the display section of your xorg.conf
[02:53] <Red-Sox> snorks: y'know what?
[02:54] <snorks> Red-Sox: No, tell me
[02:54] <Kayde> Toma- Kayde: becuase you havent added the higher display res. to the display section of your xorg.conf  how?
[02:54] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, xorg thingy? in 5.10?
[02:54] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:54] <czr> hmm, why don't I have xorg?? I have xf86
[02:54] <SpAwN> i just unstalled it...i like it so far
[02:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: Yeah, it was the new xorg when I had breezy...
[02:54] <sethk> Kayde, or because it doesn't think your monitor can display it
[02:54] <Red-Sox> snorks: i had my first dream... er... two nights ago, and everyone said that was weird, is it?
[02:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Hows it going?
[02:54] <Kayde> ok...it could on win XP
[02:54] <sethk> czr, probably an older version
[02:54] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, well I have 5.10 and it has xf86. just installed it
[02:54] <czr> sethk, older version of 5.10?
[02:54] <SpAwN> i mean installed
[02:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: Look on the disk for xorg.
[02:55] <Toma-> ... Kayde find the part that says "section "screen"", find the depth youre using and add the resoultion u think your monitor can do
[02:55] <sethk> czr, no.  it may have some utilities with xf in them, but it is xorg
[02:55] <guru54_> yea Red-Sox, since you use logic to solve a problem,  theres a good chance why you like computers, they run off of logic
[02:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah.. i was wondering there.. Lol.. hows the compiling coming?
[02:55] <SpAwN> well i ran into a snag...i ran ./configure then make...and got a error
[02:55] <czr> sethk, xdpyinfo | less says XFree86
[02:55] <Kayde> ok ty tona
[02:55] <cenopec> i dunno what is going on buy my ubuntu is going to hell
[02:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Give me the line it spit out
[02:55] <Toma-> np
[02:55] <SpAwN> k
[02:55] <drapelyk> anyone have some freetime to help me setup a blog on my webserver?
[02:55] <Red-Sox> guru54_: oh, i see, it takes logic to build one, I know than (as Red-Sox builds a computer)
[02:55] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, apt-cache search xorg comes up with nothing too
[02:55] <snorks> Red-Sox: It's not weird, it just not normal according to social experience. Maybe you have dreamt before, and didn't know it was a dream. How can you define something, if you don't know how ?
[02:55] <existance> what do the dump and pass columns mean in /etc/fstab?
[02:55] <cenopec> first i could not mount my floppy now i cant mount my optical
[02:55] <cenopec> what the hell
[02:55] <sethk> czr, indeed, so what?
[02:56] <Red-Sox> snorks: ah, what a good point
[02:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: I mean manually look in the disk files.
[02:56] <MagicFab> hello
[02:56] <cenopec> was there something wrong with the update
[02:56] <Agrajag> existance: dump means whether or not it gets backed up to tape by dump
[02:56] <Agrajag> which isn't really used any more
[02:56] <navarone> cenopec> did you try "sudo mount /dev/fd0" ?
[02:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> drapelyk: I'd love too. But High School is SO LIFE SUCKING!
[02:56] <MagicFab> what software is used for ubotu ?
[02:56] <czr> sethk, so you mean that it is xserver-xorg even if it says xfree86?
[02:56] <snorks> Red-Sox: Well don't get me wrong. I was a bit blunt saying it wasn't normal :/ I don't know how to talk to a 12 year old without perhaps saying something wrong. But you seem down to earth
[02:56] <Agrajag> pass means on which pass it is mounted, 0 goes first, then everything with a 1, then everything with a 2, etc
[02:56] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe,  http://pastebin.com/445678
[02:56] <snorks> Red-Sox: If I screw up it's not intentionally
[02:56] <existance> Agrajag, cool, thanks
[02:56] <drapelyk> Biscuitian_Warhe I don't understand
[02:56] <Red-Sox> snorks: you cant screw up if you are telling the truth
[02:57] <guru54_> snorks, none of us are normal
[02:57] <czr> xserver-xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6?
[02:57] <snorks> Red-Sox: I think quantum physics would interest you. It would put the world in a totally different perspective
[02:57] <sethk> xorg split from the xfree86 source.  Many of the things with it still say xfree
[02:57] <corvax> hello
[02:57] <snorks> Red-Sox: Or perhaps make it all clear to you
[02:57] <guru54_> snorks, i like quantum physics
[02:57] <nvez> erm, SpAwN ..
[02:57] <snorks> guru54_: same
[02:57] <cenopec> navarone: yeah everything
[02:57] <nvez> apt-get install gcc ?
[02:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Open up Synapic, and search for gcc-3.4, and d/l install that.
[02:57] <existance> whats the prefix for a bash script?
[02:57] <Toma-> SpAwN: what and why are you compiling that?
[02:57] <nvez> +sudo
[02:57] <Agrajag> Schrodinger's cat is dead
[02:57] <snorks> guru54_: Red-Sox should watch "what the !#% do we know"
[02:57] <Red-Sox> snorks: i like quantum physics, it is not offered at my grade level, but I read about it all the time
[02:57] <SpAwN> i have no sound
[02:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Breezy uses gcc 4.0, and for the oddest reason nothing likes it.
[02:57] <guru54_> snorks, i own it
[02:57] <corvax> im interested in making a debian package from a tar.bz2 source file
[02:57] <existance> Schrodinger's cat is not dead
[02:57] <SpAwN> and am trying to instal them manualy
[02:57] <Toma-> SpAwN: dont.
[02:57] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:57] <czr> hmm. what is 5.10 codename?
[02:58] <czr> warty?
[02:58] <Agrajag> existance: FILTHY LIAR
[02:58] <neoplasticity> hello
[02:58] <corvax> the file is here
[02:58] <Toma-> czr: breezy badger
[02:58] <corvax> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/MetaTheme-279.shtml
[02:58] <Agrajag> czr: warty was 4.10
[02:58] <czr> Toma-, thanks
[02:58] <snorks> Red-Sox: Hehe, I hereby sentence you to the most fascinating 12 year old boy I've ever met
[02:58] <nvez> Just use "sudo apt-get install gcc", SpAwN
[02:58] <existance> Agrajag, clearly i'm correct :P
[02:58] <czr> ahhahh. that explains the xfree86
[02:58] <sethk> SpAwN, there are packages for the older gcc versions
[02:58] <Toma-> SpAwN: compiling and installing alsa wont do anything
[02:58] <guru54_> lol snorks
[02:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> lol @ argraj
[02:58] <czr> I wonder how that ended up on my system. I used netbase install iso
[02:58] <Agrajag> existance: don't make me open that box
[02:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Toma-: He needs the alsa-utils.
[02:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> or whatever
[02:58] <Agrajag> I'll do it... hey it's empty, wtf
[02:58] <existance> Agrajag, unfortunately, you are too.  I'm going to go explode now.
[02:58] <snorks> guru54_: What you mean own it? You have the movie? Or are you owning at quantum physics?
[02:58] <Toma-> what for?
[02:58] <SpAwN> Toma-, i was told its worth a shot
[02:58] <guru54_> i finally committed to computer science and got accept to a college snausages
[02:58] <existance> hehe
[02:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Toma-: Trying to configure a card on ALSA.
[02:58] <guru54_> snorks, i have the movie
[02:58] <SpAwN> im desperat for sound now so ill try anything
[02:58] <Red-Sox> snorks: whoa... Im honored
[02:59] <Biscuitian_Warhe> existance: Don't make me eat that box...
[02:59] <sethk> SpAwN, better to try something that might work
[02:59] <Toma-> the alsa script at startup works as alsaconf
[02:59] <nvez> hm
[02:59] <nvez> why just not
[02:59] <cenopec> guru53_: where you gonna go
[02:59] <existance> Biscuitian_Warhe, boxes aren'
[02:59] <nvez> apt-get install alsa
[02:59] <existance> damn..
[02:59] <nvez> or that doesnt work?
[02:59] <drapelyk> anyone have some freetime to help me setup a blog on my webserver?
[02:59] <existance> Biscuitian_Warhe, boxes aren't so good on the digestive system
[02:59] <Toma-> SpAwN: what card do you have?
[02:59] <SpAwN> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[03:00] <Red-Sox> snorks: i like to read about quantum physics, nuclear science, and World War II
[03:00] <SpAwN> its the card that came with my dell dimension 8400
[03:00] <Red-Sox> snorks: and linux ;)
[03:00] <guru54_> cenopec, im going to Southern Illinois University of Edwardsville as i get a great discount and have a uncle 15mins from campus im going to live with
[03:00] <snorks> Red-Sox: A tip based off of my personal experience is to stay extremely critical to social information. Commercials and crap. It's brain-nuking at its best. Here's a scenario. A hospital lacks money to house all their patients in their own bed. A football stadium expands for over 3 mill $. Where is the logic?
[03:00] <maxi> alguien habla espaol ????
[03:00] <Red-Sox> snorks: i think linux is the most complicated of the four
[03:00] <Agrajag> !es
[03:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:00] <navarone> guru54...sweet...nice to have family to support you
[03:00] <existance> what's the file that gets called at startup?
[03:01] <guru54_> yea will be nice on the finances
[03:01] <Toma-> SpAwN: what does "lspci | grep audio" return?
[03:01] <snorks> Red-Sox: Does your parents know you're smart?
[03:01] <maxi> hi ,,,
[03:01] <SpAwN> roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a$ lspci | grep audio
[03:01] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:01] <Red-Sox> snorks: wow, i never thought of that, but consider this, there are millions of people eating very seldemly, but you and I eat three times a day, that to lacks logic
[03:01] <guru54_> SIUE also has some awsome professors, i have worked with them, and all their equipment is amazing
[03:02] <Red-Sox> snorks: i guess, if you call me smart
[03:02] <jason0_> Trying to resize existing partition, when I input the new size, it just goes to a blue screen. The machine hasn't stalled, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything.
[03:02] <jason0_> Is this normal?
[03:02] <Beelzebub1234> why am i getting a      this cd does not have ubuntu      error?
[03:02] <snorks> Red-Sox: Maybe they don't want to bombard their cells with stimulative neurons, to live longer
[03:02] <Toma-> SpAwN: and its not getting loaded on boot?
[03:02] <snorks> Red-Sox: :P Well. Food makes us old and brittle
[03:02] <cenopec> guru54
[03:02] <SpAwN> well it hink it loads at boot
[03:03] <SpAwN> but there is no sound whatsoever
[03:03] <cenopec> guru54_: hope ya do well man
[03:03] <Red-Sox> snorks: food = good
[03:03] <Toma-> SpAwN: try this, "lsmod | grep ac97_codec"
[03:03] <Red-Sox> snorks: i think ;)
[03:03] <Toma-> dont paste the command aswell back in the chan plz ;)
[03:03] <maxi> hi Red-Sox
[03:03] <maxi> !!!!
[03:03] <SpAwN> roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a$ lsmod | grep ac97_codec
[03:03] <SpAwN> snd_ac97_codec         83932  1 snd_intel8x0
[03:03] <SpAwN> snd_pcm                88840  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[03:03] <SpAwN> snd                    54884  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[03:03] <ubotu> maxi: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:03] <snorks> Red-Sox: Well yes of course :) It contains important stuff. But it's ultimately what brings us down aswell
[03:03] <drapelyk> All: could anyone help me get MySQL working with PHP4.3+?
[03:03] <guru54_> Red-Sox, coming from someone who had a 4.0gpa and high state/act scores yet by my junior year in HS fell to a 2.6gpa and rankked in the 75% of my class, do your homework no matter how easy and bogus it is, even if you can teach the class and argue the teacher out of his or her job
[03:03] <snorks> Red-Sox: In the rules of quantum physics at least
[03:03] <Red-Sox> maxi: um... hi, do I know you?
[03:04] <guru54_> cenopec, thx
[03:04] <Toma-> SpAwN: ok, its getting loaded. the recompiling and installing process would have done nothing. ;)
[03:04] <maxi> I , speake Spanish
[03:04] <navarone> snorks...if we all stop eating and breathing at least hospital beds will become available sooner...<s>
[03:04] <existance> !nvidia
[03:04] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:04] <SpAwN> welli think im gonna give it shot anyways who know
[03:04] <Veinos> hey
[03:04] <snorks> navarone: hehe
[03:04] <SpAwN> *kows
[03:04] <maxi> Where do yo From ? (Red-Box)
[03:04] <Red-Sox> guru54_: yes, i do, though i dont have a 4.0 gpa accumulated over the years, 3.8
[03:04] <Toma-> SpAwN: does this command make a sound? "cat .Xclients >> /dev/dsp"
[03:04] <Red-Sox> guru54_: i have gotten two B's i believe
[03:04] <snorks> box
[03:04] <Veinos> i'm new to linux, first time i install that :\ how do i log in the root user !?
[03:05] <maxi> Where do you From ? (Red-Box)
[03:05] <Agrajag> !tell Veinos about rootsudo
[03:05] <Red-Sox> maxi: why?
[03:05] <guru54_> Red-Sox, im talking about later grade school is bogus and they will tell you that, HighSchool is all that matters
[03:05] <SpAwN> roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~$ cat .Xclients >> /dev/dsp
[03:05] <SpAwN> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Veinos: su in a terminal can do it
[03:05] <Agrajag> Biscuitian_Warhe: no it can't
[03:05] <Toma-> SpAwN: now we're getting somewhere.
[03:05] <Red-Sox> guru54_: oh, i see, right now i am preparing for high school, right?
[03:05] <Veinos> ok thanks
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Agrajag: It will in a terminal?
[03:06] <Agrajag> Biscuitian_Warhe: no it won't.
[03:06] <Agrajag> Not in ubuntu.
[03:06] <Milk_> howdy folks!
[03:06] <snorks> hi Milk_
[03:06] <guru54_> Red-Sox, yea if your HS offers Honor classes look into it
[03:06] <nemik> when you ./ install bin apps, where do you usually do it? is /usr/share a good place?
[03:06] <maxi> My english , is not good
[03:06] <neoplasticity> does anyone know the command to show what services are running on your computer?
[03:06] <Agrajag> nemik: I usually put them in /opt
[03:06] <jcarr> Dapper?
[03:06] <jcarr> Dapper Dan?
[03:06] <Toma-> SpAwN: whats not making sound? xmms?
[03:06] <guru54_> Red-Sox, my HS didnt and i got bored quickly with the bullcrap they where teaching
[03:06] <snorks> neoplasticity: ps aux
[03:06] <SpAwN> everything
[03:06] <nemik> thanks agrajag
[03:06] <DapperDan> ps aix
[03:06] <SpAwN> no boot sound no mucis no movies
[03:06] <existance> uhh, what should I do if i installed the nvidia driver as per the website but i still can't get the right resolution?
[03:06] <SpAwN> no error sounds
[03:06] <DapperDan> cuz I loves aix
[03:06] <Red-Sox> guru54_: i am already taking High School credits, and next year i will take honors
[03:07] <jasongrieves> what about AIX
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> Just got my ubuntu shipment
[03:07] <DapperDan> I LOVES IT!
[03:07] <Milk_> snorks, :)
[03:07] <Toma-> SpAwN: try "killall esd" then play something in xmms
[03:07] <xiO_> I'm getting the 'killed killed killed' error when trying to install ubu5.1. ctrl+alt+f3 shos everything fine but last line is insmod .....isofs.ko  , and I don't see anything useful in /var/log  . Anyone have more ideas?
[03:07] <DapperDan> AIX is my precous
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> runnin it LIVE on a public terminal
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> :)
[03:07] <Agrajag> I have some old AIX books in my cubicle, the last guy left them there
[03:07] <guru54_> Red-Sox, nice im actually taking college classes for my senior year lol HS ran out of classes for me and i tested out of state ones
[03:07] <jasongrieves> lol im working on AIX here at IBM
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> tryin to work up the nerve to pass out all my extras
[03:07] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: oh it's all YOUR fault is it
[03:07] <jasongrieves> Agrajag lol
[03:08] <SpAwN> Toma-,  nope
[03:08] <SpAwN> nothing
[03:08] <Milk_> I got an odd one here... I accidentaly changed the orentation of my top menu bar the other night, and how changing it back (to top) it defaults to the middle center of the screen, If I expand it, it goes to the top and stays untill I restart X the next time..
[03:08] <snorks> Red-Sox: Out of curiosity, what did you dream about?
[03:08] <Milk_> any ideas?
[03:08] <jasongrieves> Agrajag hey AIX is good at some stuff
[03:08] <Toma-> SpAwN: is xmms saying device busy?
[03:08] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: oh I've never used it
[03:08] <Red-Sox> guru54_: cool, the middle school is letting me go ahead in the classes that I am real good at, and they let me take classes with the 8th grade HS credit guys
[03:08] <guru54_> snorks, what kinda question is that?
[03:08] <jasongrieves> Agrajag you probably never will :)
[03:08] <snorks> guru54_: an out of curiosity-question?
[03:08] <jasper> !w32
[03:08] <ubotu> jasper: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:08] <drapelyk> All: could anyone help me get MySQL working with PHP4.3+?
[03:08] <maxi> ubotu como hago eso ?
[03:08] <ubotu> I don't know, maxi
[03:08] <Agrajag> my job so far involves one linux box and one windows one, running opennms and a jabber server. my job is incredibly boring.
[03:09] <guru54_> snorks, in what reference
[03:09] <jasper> !w32codecs
[03:09] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:09] <Red-Sox> snorks: *cough* um... nevermind that *cough*
[03:09] <SpAwN> it says please chck that the sound card i configured and that i have the correct output plugin and that no other program is using the soundcard
[03:09] <calc> Agrajag: sleep
[03:09] <Agrajag> I'm about to ask for them to give me more work
[03:09] <guru54_> snorks, like just dreaming or what do you want to do with your life
[03:09] <Agrajag> calc: oh I do, every morning, it just doesn't feel right, you know?
[03:09] <monteiro> anyone knows the keys combination to make EOF in bash ?
[03:09] <jasongrieves> does ubuntu build hte damange and fixes extensiosn into X?
[03:09] <calc> Agrajag: heh
[03:09] <snorks> guru54_: If he dreamt about the solution to world peace I'd wanna hear about it.
[03:09] <guru54_> lol snorks
[03:09] <Agrajag> monteiro: ctrl-z
[03:10] <jasper> monteiro: try Ctrl+D?
[03:10] <Agrajag> oh
[03:10] <Agrajag> what am I saying
[03:10] <Red-Sox> snorks: im  embarrassed
[03:10] <Red-Sox> easily
[03:10] <Agrajag> it is D
[03:10] <guru54_> snorks, there is no solution
[03:10] <Agrajag> see, I didn't get my nap this morning, and this is what happens
[03:10] <monteiro> jasper : tks , you're right :)
[03:10] <guru54_> snorks, you would have to end the human race to gain peace
[03:10] <jasper> :)
[03:10] <navarone> guru54> yes there is...we all move to mars...<s>
[03:10] <snorks> guru54_: Well there ARE, but only for a short moment. exactly
[03:11] <durt> or at least the non-white races...
[03:11] <Red-Sox> snorks: i can tell you if you REALLY want me to, but you must PM me
[03:11] <SpAwN> brb
[03:11] <snorks> guru54_: grotesque. replace everyone with smart people, till the smart people gets mad at eachother. then you have it going again
[03:11] <snorks> Red-Sox: No need :)
[03:11] <Kayde> I got 2 go soon!
[03:11] <Red-Sox> snorks: phew! thank you, thank you, thank you
[03:11] <snorks> Red-Sox: Now you just make me feel bad :/
[03:11] <Toma-> SpAwN: just as a little note, compiling and installing another set of alsa drivers is going to be very dodgy.
[03:12] <guru54_> we should just join #red-sox Red-Sox , snorks
[03:12] <Agrajag> guru54_: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:12] <Red-Sox> guru54_: is it a real channel?
[03:12] <jasongrieves> does ubuntu build hte damange and fixes extensiosn into X?
[03:12] <Agrajag> just to keep it out of #ubuntu
[03:12] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: I think so
[03:12] <mjr> jasongrieves, seems to
[03:12] <SpAwN> hmm well i dont know what else to do
[03:12] <biscuit_> SpAwN: You still here? Dialup isn't perfect.
[03:13] <calc> jasongrieves: i see DAMAGE but not FIXES
[03:13] <mjr> at least my Hoary default X server has them
[03:13] <SpAwN> yes
[03:13] <mjr> calc, it's XFIXES
[03:13] <Toma-> jasongrieves: fixes? i know it has the damage extensions..
[03:13] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Anything go wrong?
[03:13] <jasongrieves> how can I probe
[03:13] <jasongrieves> Xfixes
[03:13] <calc> mjr: ah i see it now
[03:13] <mjr> jasongrieves, xdpyinfo lists the extensions
[03:13] <calc> jasongrieves: yea xfixes is in there
[03:13] <SpAwN> not yet....its still compiling
[03:13] <existance> why can't i change the permissions of a directory I created in / ?
[03:13] <jasongrieves> ah thanks, been a while
[03:13] <Toma-> *sigh* i cant wait to say "i told you so"
[03:13] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Alrite, *Crosses fingers hoping we had the same problem.. Lol
[03:13] <[LV] z1ng3r> hi. can anybody help me on setting this permission on folder? drwx-wx--T
[03:14] <jasongrieves> Agrajag you dont have an old P series box do you?
[03:14] <Agrajag> P series?
[03:14] <[LV] z1ng3r> plz
[03:14] <jasongrieves> Agrajag get some old AIX disks and have some fun :)
[03:14] <Agrajag> oh, no no
[03:14] <jasongrieves> IBM power chpis
[03:14] <SpAwN> well if i cant get this sound to wokr i can always go back to mandriva
[03:14] <Kayde> SO NOONE CANHELP??
[03:14] <Agrajag> All I have access to at work is a cheap Dell
[03:14] <existance> zlng3r, try this site http://catcode.com/teachmod/chmod_cmd2.html
[03:14] <existance> why can't i change the permissions of a directory I created in / ?
[03:14] <Agrajag> Trying to make a usable system out of it
[03:14] <Kayde> SO noone can help wth screen fuzz?
[03:14] <durt> man chmod
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> screen fuzz?
[03:14] <Toma-> Kayde: you've set the wrong screen resolution.
[03:15] <sethk> Kayde, did you ever figure out what your frequencies are?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:15] <[LV] z1ng3r> durt tnx a lot :E
[03:15] <Kayde> yes! 60htz
[03:15] <jasongrieves> Agrajag i stll am trying to figure out how they are selling a #300 dollar laptop
[03:15] <existance> why can't i change the permissions of a directory I created in / ?
[03:15] <sethk> Kayde, and the resolution you are using?
[03:15] <jasongrieves> Agrajag their right above us in Round Rock Texas
[03:16] <sethk> existance, you probably need to use sudo
[03:16] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: who is?
[03:16] <jasongrieves> Agrajag main Dell HQ
[03:16] <Agrajag> oh
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> existance,  its not a mount point is it?
[03:16] <existance> Dr_Willis, kinda .. :/
[03:16] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt
[03:16] <jasongrieves> guy across the apt. works for them, i work at IBM, good laughs
[03:16] <existance> Dr_Willis, well, yea actually, that means i can't change it?
[03:16] <[LV] z1ng3r> can anybody help me on setting this permission on folder? drwx-wx--T
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> existance,  kinda? :P is it mounting a WIndows partition?
[03:17] <existance> Dr_Willis, yup, good guess :P
[03:17] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt
[03:17] <matt__> hey, can someone help with installing a package I've downloaded?
[03:17] <existance> [LV] z1ng3r, try this site http://catcode.com/teachmod/chmod_cmd2.html
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> existance,  you need to set the 'umask=' option to be what you need.
[03:17] <Kayde> Me?
[03:17] <[LV] z1ng3r> existance tnx
[03:17] <xiO_> I'm getting the 'killed killed killed' error when trying to install ubuntu 5.1. looking in /var/log/syslog it shows process '/sbin/debian-installer' erroring/exiting. anyone know why this would happen?
[03:17] <dpupp-away> so if i wanted to try KDE in ubuntu, what do i need to do?
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> existance,  type "!ntfs" and read the bots message
[03:17] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen
[03:17] <existance> !ntfs
[03:18] <existance> Dr_Willis, will do
[03:18] <matt__> I have the deb file in my home directory, but the synaptic package manager doesn't seem to work with individual files, only repositories.
[03:18] <sethk> matt__, right, you use dpkg
[03:18] <xiO_> dpkg -i debname.deb ?
[03:19] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen??
[03:19] <dpupp> sethk, and how would you remove it?
[03:19] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt My Refresh rate is: 60Hz or 58Hz no diff
[03:19] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Hows it coming?
[03:19] <Toma-> xiO_: bad install media?
[03:19] <matt__> cool beans :) thanks.
[03:19] <existance> Dr_Willis: i already edited fstab to put it at /(directory)
[03:19] <Toma-> Kayde: what monitor is it?
[03:19] <matt__> will that take care of any dependencies as wel?
[03:19] <xiO_> Toma: cd checks out with md5..?
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> existance,  did you use the 'umask' option?
[03:19] <Kayde> toshiba satelite laptop mionitor
[03:19] <sethk> dpupp, remove what?
[03:19] <SpAwN> im on the utils and i ran configure
[03:19] <Toma-> xiO_: tried the "check media" part of the install?
[03:19] <existance> Dr_Willis, nope, never heard of it :/ decently new to unix fs
[03:20] <SpAwN> thenm i went to use make and got this roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~/Desktop/alsa-utils-1.0.9rc4a$ make
[03:20] <SpAwN> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:20] <xiO_> toma: yeah, A-ok
[03:20] <dpupp> sethk you were saying how to install a deb... how would you uninstall a deb ?
[03:20] <navarone> matt__> you have to cd to home directory...or wherever deb file is first in termianl
[03:20] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt My Refresh rate is: 60Hz or 58Hz no diff,  toshiba satelite laptop mionitor
[03:20] <Agrajag> Kayde: did you try any other resolutions? A lot of laptops use 1024x768 natively
[03:20] <sethk> dpupp, not sure, do man dpkg
[03:20] <LjL> dpupp: you can use apt-get for that
[03:20] <Kayde> it dosnt have that option
[03:20] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen??  help
[03:20] <Agrajag> and anything else will be scaled and look ugly
[03:20] <dpupp> sethk. ok thanks.
[03:20] <Kayde>  1024x768 isnt in the option
[03:20] <existance> Dr_Willis, still reading the article in !ntfs so i might find it :), i don't  really want to do it the auto way though
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> existance,  the 'issue' is that windows partitions cant have the same 'permissions' set as a normal ext2/3 filesystem. The Mount/fstab options are used to set them at mount time. and they dont change afterwards
[03:21] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Try make depend
[03:21] <dpupp> i want to try KDE. what do i need to do? im currently using ubuntu 5.10 gnome.
[03:21] <redeeman> anyone here using snd-usb-audio?
[03:21] <SpAwN> ahh i just saw this "configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[03:21] <SpAwN> " any idea?
[03:21] <funkyHat> matt__, it won't take care of deps, but if there are any issues it will tell you, then you can use synaptic/apt to fix them and finish installing
[03:21] <sethk> SpAwN, install ncurses
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> install a curses library :P
[03:21] <SpAwN> ahh k
[03:21] <Toma-> SpAwN: you need the ncurses-dev
[03:21] <buddy> is there a program in ubuntu that will allow me to see vnc servers. I have connected to my ubuntu machine with a windows machine but cant find a program to view other machiens from my ubuntu one
[03:21] <existance> Dr_Willis, looks like its fmask and dmask
[03:21] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:21] <SpAwN> ah k thanks
[03:22] <jasongrieves> WARNING: Couldn't find the DAMAGE library. Check config.log for details
[03:22] <existance> Dr_Willis, there's  a file_umask for Apple systems though
[03:22] <navarone> existance> I have prob with windows partion I use for p2p shares...I cannot write directly to the shared folder...hoever I can createa  new folder ther and transfer files there and then transfer again to shares thru windows
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> existance,  i normally set umask, and uid and gid, depending on what i want to do.
[03:22] <jasongrieves> drat my debian skills
[03:22] <jasongrieves> where do extensions go?
[03:22] <Toma-> SpAwN: if youre serious about screwing your system, try this first, "apt-get build-dep alsa"
[03:22] <gparent> Where does linux mount shared folders from Windows ?
[03:22] <gparent> I tried Mnt, didnt work.
[03:22] <Toma-> and alsa-lib
[03:22] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:22] <navarone> gparent...maybe in /media
[03:22] <Agrajag> buddy: Applications > Internet> Terminal Server Client
[03:22] <FuzzyGhost> Heya
[03:22] <gparent> Alright..
[03:22] <mjr> jasongrieves, you probably want libxdamage-dev
[03:22] <quacker> gparent, /media/
[03:22] <jasongrieves> mjr, ah, probobaly
[03:22] <buddy> Agrajag: Thank you
[03:22] <gparent> Nope.
[03:23] <gparent> Damn
[03:23] <gparent> Let me check my VMWare settings
[03:23] <SpAwN> aallright Toma- ill try that right after
[03:23] <navarone> gparent...is it set to automount?
[03:23] <existance> navarone, the other day someone said you couldn't write to ntfs, only read... you can write to it?
[03:23] <biscuit_> SpAwN: I gotta kinda go now. :/
[03:23] <gparent> Where do I see that option?
[03:23] <Natdigga_> alright...I've been on ubuntu for 3 days now just enjoying the software that came with it...so what do you all suggest I do now...I'm ready to get my hands dirty!  :)
[03:23] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:23] <existance> Dr_Willis, how do you use umask? I don't see it in this article
[03:23] <SpAwN> biscuit_, thanks for ya help so far
[03:23] <quacker> gparent, then they're not mounted
[03:23] <Toma-> SpAwN: it'll install all the packages you need to build alsa-base... do it before
[03:23] <redeeman> gparent: it doesent just mount automatically
[03:23] <FuzzyGhost> I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with a Nvidia problem.
[03:23] <SpAwN> ill figure it out :D
[03:23] <Kayde> Any help or do i try a diofferent place?!
[03:23] <drapelyk> All: could anyone help me get MySQL working with PHP4.3+?
[03:23] <SpAwN> ohh Toma- got ya
[03:23] <navarone> existance...no writing to ntfs can lead to corruption. I use a fat32 partition for sharinf files between os's
[03:23] <Toma-> SpAwN: actually, forget it. ill take no part in this murder.
[03:23] <gparent> Then how do I mount it?
[03:23] <existance> Dr_Willis, granted it goes in the fstab entry, i mean what = what permission
[03:23] <redeeman> drapelyk: just install it, but you should get php 5
[03:23] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Alrite, you should be able to get it. Lol. If you need anything drop a line to biscuitian.warhead@gmail.com.
[03:23] <existance> navarone,i see
[03:24] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Later dude.
[03:24] <SpAwN> ahh thanks bro
[03:24] <SpAwN> pz
[03:24] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt My Refresh rate is: 60Hz or 58Hz no diff,  toshiba satelite laptop mionitor  Can someone help or should i go somewhear else?
[03:24] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, I'm trying to install a blog solution on my webserver
[03:24] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:24] <redeeman> gparent: you gotta install smbfs, then you can mount using the mount command, but you can also just use the gnome network browser to browse the network
[03:24] <Kayde> fuzzy asin stuffed
[03:24] <drapelyk> redeeman: I've got Apache2 installed, I need to get MySQL and I guess PHP5? running
[03:24] <gparent> thx
[03:24] <Toma-> evilX: what do you mean repair?
[03:24] <SpAwN> Toma-, apt-get build-dep alsa doesnt install anything for me anyways
[03:25] <Toma-> SpAwN: try alsa-base instead of alsa
[03:25] <redeeman> drapelyk: php is a matter of simply being installed, mysql aswell, since it starts itself when you install
[03:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone have any idea when the ucp test is coming out?
[03:25] <SpAwN> k
[03:25] <drocko> When i installed ubuntu it partitioned off my entire physical drive as an LVM volume. i would like to make another partition that is not in the LVM. is it possible to resize a physical volume?
[03:25] <drocko> in LVM that is
[03:25] <drapelyk> redeeman: so there is no configuration?
[03:25] <Sionide> offtopic: anyone here watch desperate housewives?
[03:25] <redeeman> drapelyk: there shouldn't be
[03:25] <evilX> i install a splashy thing.. to change the image when the unbuntu its monting the sistem
[03:26] <drapelyk> redeeman: k, do you know why i'm not seeing PHP5 when I "apt-cache search PHP"?
[03:26] <SpAwN> well Toma- what exactly does this install and how might it help my no sound?
[03:26] <evilX> but doest work
[03:26] <redeeman> drapelyk: don't use captive php
[03:26] <jasongrieves> mjr, good call, i just noticed fixes libs were there
[03:26] <SpAwN> im not used to ubuntu or gnome so pls bear with me
[03:26] <redeeman> drapelyk: besides, it might be called mod_php
[03:26] <afabian> dpupp, what have you got in mind?  Compiling perl and installing it in /usr?
[03:26] <jasongrieves> no damage
[03:26] <Toma-> SpAwN: if you'd been listening to me, its going to do nothing.
[03:26] <drapelyk> redeeman: I don't understand
[03:26] <redeeman> drapelyk: apt-cache search php
[03:26] <theblue> Hi all.
[03:27] <drapelyk> redeeman I did
[03:27] <Toma-> evilX: click System > Preferences > Spplash Screen and change it back
[03:27] <evilX>  i uninstalling splashy thing , i reboot and the original splash bar does work
[03:27] <SpAwN> lol i say that command doesnt work and u give me the right one...then i ask what i installed and u say that?
[03:27] <redeeman> drapelyk: not PHP, php
[03:27] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok
[03:27] <FuzzyGhost> Would there be a less busy time I could come back, or an e-mail I could send the question too?
[03:27] <durt> [LV] z1ng3r: if you havent figured it out yet, its 1730
[03:27] <Toma-> well you seemed hellbent on installing these compiled drivers when its got nothing to do with the drivers at all
[03:27] <boo> hey what is a cpkg file?
[03:27] <Kayde> HELP me: my laptop monitor, when on Win XP it works, on ubuntu it dosnt-its squiggly in bottom corner of screen, on 800x600  my refresh is 60hz when i lower my resolution it stuffes again
[03:27] <drapelyk> redeeman: still just php php3 and php4
[03:27] <theblue> dkman: This is a response.
[03:28] <redeeman> drapelyk: okay, i guess php5 is in universe/multiverse then, but php4 should work too
[03:28] <SpAwN> well i biscuit was helping me
[03:28] <gparent> I dunno
[03:28] <gparent> I cant find it in network
[03:28] <gparent> Its odd
[03:28] <SpAwN> he has the same prob as me he was saying
[03:28] <drapelyk> k
[03:28] <SpAwN> oh well
[03:28] <Toma-> SpAwN: he doesnt know what he's talking about
[03:28] <Kayde> HELP me: my laptop monitor, when on Win XP it works, on ubuntu it dosnt-its squiggly in bottom corner of screen, on 800x600  my refresh is 60hz when i lower my resolution it stuffes again, exept 640x480 it workes
[03:28] <drapelyk> redeeman: am I to assume that php4 is the newest 4?
[03:28] <boo> Help: does anyone know what a .cpkg is
[03:28] <SpAwN> well doh!
[03:28] <afabian> Kayde, X can usually do just about anything that WinXP can, as far as driving monitors goes.  (3D acceleration is a different story, may need nvidia or ati and their proprietary drivers).  Try Googling on your laptop's model number and see how others have configured X for it.
[03:29] <LjL> bob: a klik package iinm
[03:29] <Toma-> Kayde: http://disjunkt.com/linux-toshiba-m40x/ scroll down to "Setting-up X"
[03:29] <redeeman> drapelyk: i think it's relatively new, atleast you can be certain there are no security problems
[03:29] <donald> Question: I`m having trouble understanding the installation of Plugger from their websight....is there a more in debpth location for nubies??
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Dont you normally want to run a LCD at its "designed" res.  anything Higher/Lower can look blury
[03:29] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, the blog I am trying to install uses 4.3+
[03:29] <Kayde> TYYY
[03:29] <redeeman> drapelyk: you should be able to see what version once you apt-get install it
[03:29] <afabian> Dr_Willis, yeah.  Usually called the 'native resolution.'
[03:30] <redeeman> drapelyk: but you could uncomment those repos in sources.list and get php5 (i believe its there)
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> afabian,  yea thats the term :P
[03:30] <yatesy> tft/lcd screens don't go higher than their native res :P
[03:30] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, I see php4-mysql, if i'm going to be using MySQL should I just get that?
[03:31] <drapelyk> redeeman: and if so do I need php4 also?
[03:31] <theblue> !tell dkman about hoary
[03:31] <Toma-> Kayde: HOWEVER, make sure its the right monitor for your laptop. is it a m40x?
[03:31] <yatesy> yes, the former would just be a module
[03:31] <SpAwN> Toma-, is there anything else you would suggest i try?......cuz im pretty clueless as of right now
[03:31] <redeeman> drapelyk: i think so, but im not completely sure
[03:31] <existance> is it possible to have one monitor on an ATI card and another on Nvidia in ubuntu?
[03:31] <rebort> can anyone help me with a longstanding keyboard problem?
[03:31] <redeeman> drapelyk: i gotta go, you should ask someone else in here
[03:31] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, thanks a bunch
[03:31] <rebort> i describe it in detail http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[03:31] <redeeman> existance: it is in all linux distributions
[03:31] <Toma-> SpAwN: ask these lovely people how to figure out how to see whats using your /dev/dsp. something has been laoded and is "plugging" up the sound system
[03:32] <existance> redeeman: how would i go about doing it then, when i install ATI drivers it uninstalls nvidia, and vice versa
[03:32] <Toma-> the drivers are fine.
[03:32] <redeeman> Toma-: fuser -v /dev/dsp will tell
[03:32] <luisito> hey! what is that Ubuntu Linux 6.04 Flight 1?
[03:32] <Toma-> there u go SpAwN ^^
[03:32] <rebort> nah?
[03:32] <SpAwN>  sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
[03:32] <SpAwN>  returened nothign
[03:32] <redeeman> existance: linux-restricted-modules gives you nvidia kernel module and ati kernel module, then all you gotta install is xorg-driver-fglrx and nvidia-glx
[03:32] <FuzzyGhost> I'll just ask:  I am using a 64mb (don't know if it's GeForce or TNT, what have you) and it used to work with the 3d accel. in the last version of Ubuntu.  I gathered the drivers and ran the config command, but it won't work.  Quake3 gave a library/module version mismatch error; glxgears gives this error:
[03:32] <Toma-> same here....
[03:32] <FuzzyGhost> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:32] <FuzzyGhost> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[03:33] <aSt3raL> im downloading ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:33] <aSt3raL> is there only one install disc?
[03:33] <redeeman> existance: if the standard will uninstall eachother, you might need to pass some arguments to apt-get
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> aSt3raL,  yep.
[03:33] <redeeman> aSt3raL: yes
[03:33] <navarone> Spawn did you turn off the sound server startup in System/Preferences/Sound?
[03:33] <Kayde> Toma- Kayde: HOWEVER, make sure its the right monitor for your laptop. is it a m40x?--I dont know
[03:34] <aSt3raL> where can i get a list of packages that come with the install?
[03:34] <SpAwN> navarone, no i didnt its set to load at boot
[03:34] <Toma-> Kayde: is there a little sign on the laptop saying what model it is?
[03:34] <rebort> anyone have ideas about the keyboard issue
[03:34] <navarone> Spawn...try disabling it and see what happens
[03:34] <jhbramlett> pork rules
[03:34] <donald> Question: Could i please get some help with installing Plugger.
[03:34] <existance> redeeman, i don't see a linux-restricted-module for ATI
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Oink?
[03:34] <FuzzyGhost> asteral, the system comes with Synaptic, a package manager
[03:34] <Kayde> yea
[03:34] <navarone> Spawn> and I would think you'd need to reboot...or amybe restart x
[03:34] <SpAwN> k i unchecked start at start up?should i log out or rebbot?
[03:35] <SpAwN> ahh k
[03:35] <jhbramlett> pork is oink-a-delic
[03:35] <SpAwN> brb
[03:35] <existance> redeeman, i already installed linux-restricted-modules-686 for the nvidia driver
[03:35] <FuzzyGhost> If you don't want to apt-get in terminal just use Synaptic.
[03:35] <Toma-> i gtg. cyas
[03:35] <alekz> anyone knows what is gnome-pty-helper process for ?
[03:35] <calc> its there to use memory
[03:35] <Kayde> ps223a-59084
[03:35] <Kayde> ps223a-59084 that is the model
[03:36] <jhbramlett> so, does it jack with the apt system when one builds and installs from tarballs (sources) ?
[03:36] <aSt3raL> for a laptop that has xp and slackware installed, and i want to get rid of slackware and use ubuntu, should i format the linux partition from xp or the install program?
[03:36] <calc> jhbramlett: if you install into /usr it will
[03:36] <aSt3raL> and ideas on that?
[03:36] <rebort> my keyboard doesnt work!
[03:36] <calc> jhbramlett: install into /usr/local or /opt
[03:36] <SpAwN> no sound
[03:37] <Kayde> Toma- Kayde: is there a little sign on the laptop saying what model it is? ps223a-59084 that is the model
[03:37] <rebort> slam bang crash loud noise
[03:37] <jhbramlett> it seems like a pain sometimes to get everything you need in .deb format
[03:37] <aSt3raL> also whats a good size for the partition to install ubuntu and swap file partition?
[03:37] <calc> aSt3raL: minimum for ubuntu is about 2GB
[03:37] <SpAwN> but i can now select oss as a audio output
[03:37] <calc> aSt3raL: swapfile depends on the system
[03:38] <SpAwN> and i hear a little click when i do the sound test...no sound...but it makes a little crackel sound
[03:38] <SpAwN> it didnt do this b4
[03:38] <aSt3raL> 5gb for ubuntu and 1gb for swap file sound good?
[03:38] <calc> aSt3raL: that should be plenty yea
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> 1 gb is a little huge. :P
[03:38] <aSt3raL> 500mb better?
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> unless you know you will be needing that much swap
[03:38] <jhbramlett> if you actually ever use 1gb swap, your system will be sucking air
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> I normaly set a 512mb swap. :P
[03:39] <aSt3raL> ok
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> but it rarely gets used.
[03:39] <aSt3raL> thanks
[03:39] <calc> aSt3raL: if you want to hibernate you need roughly 1.3x your memory for swap (iirc)
[03:39] <aSt3raL> thats all the questions i have for now ill be around later though :p
[03:39] <eternalist> Dr_Willis, I think i saw something with your name on bash.org
[03:40] <donald> Question: Could i please get some help with the installation of Plugger....their websight doesn`t do much for a nubie.
[03:40] <eternalist> Dr_Willis, this is it i think > http://bash.org/?333425
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  :P
[03:40] <jhbramlett> ubuntu is my first debian-ish distro but, I have to say, it's pretty nice
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> heh
[03:40] <FuzzyGhost> I think I'm just going to downgrade.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  Yep. :P
[03:40] <Epix> Anyone know of a USB device that handles audio inputs? Something like a Firepod but USB. Its gotta work on ubuntu!
[03:41] <FuzzyGhost> Thanks anyway.
[03:41] <DapperDan> is firefox 1.5 availble in ubuntu?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  i wonder what happened to that Force feedback mouse..
[03:41] <DapperDan> can I just update and install?
[03:41] <eternalist> Dr_Willis, haha
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  it was sort of a gimicky mouse.
[03:41] <SpAwN> i wonder why mandriva is the only linux that my sound actualy works on
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> it would 'vibrate' when moving over icons and so forth.
[03:41] <Agrajag> DapperDan: not until Dapper comes out
[03:41] <Kayde> I HAVE TO GO, thanks 4 ur help...but none of it realy helped ty anyway :)
[03:42] <calc> DapperDan: not yet
[03:42] <Agrajag> Breezy has 1.0.7
[03:42] <calc> dapper has 1.5rc3
[03:42] <DapperDan> durn
[03:42] <Agrajag> calc: no it doesn;t.
[03:42] <DapperDan> I w ill download it
[03:42] <DapperDan> and install it myself!
[03:42] <Agrajag> it has 1.0.7
[03:42] <DapperDan> damn it
[03:42] <calc> Version: 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3
[03:42] <DapperDan> ffs
[03:42] <donald> I have to go as well....thanks for all the help.
[03:42] <calc> sure looks like 1.5rc3 to me
[03:42] <Agrajag> calc: where is that from?
[03:42] <calc> Filename: pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[03:42] <calc> dapper amd64
[03:43] <Agrajag> calc: oh ojh dpaper
[03:43] <Agrajag> see this is what happens when I don't sleep
[03:43] <calc> Agrajag: hehe
[03:43] <jhbramlett> check this: I got breezy running pretty well on a 300mhz PII  - 64 mb ram laptop
[03:44] <jhbramlett> (server type install, xfce windows manager, dillo web browser)
[03:44] <jhbramlett> runs fast
[03:44] <Epix> ?
[03:44] <coz> hello all
[03:45] <coz> problem here
[03:45] <coz>  For some reason several things fro uninstalled
[03:45] <coz> en_US:en    LC_ALL    en_US.UTF-8
[03:45] <coz> how do I reinstall these?
[03:46] <Howie> Test
[03:46] <navarone> Spawn...in System/Preferences/Sound waht sound device does it say it is using? I am using a sb live and it says "CA0106"
[03:46] <morphix> jhbramlett: i have ubuntu running on my other p4 & also my old old celeron 366mhz 192mb ram lol runs perfect on both.
[03:46] <Varanger> hello
[03:46] <SpAwN> navarone,  intel ich6
[03:46] <jhbramlett> firefox runs too slow for my system tho
[03:47] <calc> firefox eats ram like candy
[03:47] <Varanger> does someone know what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile ?
[03:47] <navarone> Spawn> Any other option ind rop down?
[03:47] <daniel_s> i have just installed ubuntu and the display is shifted to the right be about 5 pixels - any suggestions on how to fix this? i have tried using 'xvidtune' to no avail
[03:47] <SpAwN> navarone,  nope
[03:47] <calc> its currently using over 300MB on my system, usually its much higher
[03:47] <SpAwN> only that one
[03:47] <jhbramlett> this crazy dillo browser is super-fast (but very limited functionality)
[03:48] <jhbramlett> dillo ram footprint is like 350kb
[03:48] <morphix> jhbramlett: there must be something wrong.. cause i can do everything on the celeron 366mhz that i can do on the p4..
[03:48] <morphix> and firefox runs smooth for me on both.
[03:48] <jhbramlett> I only got 64 mb ram
[03:48] <navarone> dillo?
[03:48] <calc> jhbramlett: yea 64mb ram would be painful with firefox
[03:48] <MickMcMack> morphix, you wouldn't be able to do any raytracing on that 366 though, would you?
[03:48] <durt> firefox 1.5 is still slow on 512mb ram
[03:48] <morphix> make a larger swap partition
[03:48] <Delvien> Ok i have this vmware-instal.pl how do i run it???????
[03:49] <morphix> MickMcMack: i dont even know what that is.
[03:49] <theCore> jhbramlett: use epiphany over firefox
[03:49] <coz> when installing something the terminal says that three things are missing and must be reinstalled
[03:49] <jhbramlett> I also run ubuntu on a two-dual-core x86_64 machine with 2+ gb ram (with raided fast sata2 drives).......... that works well too.
[03:49] <theCore> jhbramlett: epip got all the feature of firefox but it's way faster
[03:49] <coz> LC_ALL     en_US:en     en_US.UTF-8
[03:49] <navarone> Spawn> uninstall polaudio and install esound
[03:49] <jhbramlett> hmmmm.... I'll check it out
[03:49] <navarone> polyaudio
[03:50] <SpAwN> navarone, i already have
[03:50] <coz> I tried polyaudio it screwed things up for me but it really sounded good
[03:50] <SpAwN> ive read alot of threads and tried alot of thing
[03:50] <coz> anyone know how to reinstall these three missing elements?
[03:50] <calc> i don't have speed problems with firefox on my system, it just uses huge amounts of ram
[03:51] <SpAwN> i cant even find polyaudio in synaptic
[03:51] <XiCillin> anybody know how to play dvds in mplayer? every time i go to the device it just opens up to the files instaed of playing htem
[03:51] <Agrajag> you mean polypaudio?
[03:51] <coz> polyaudio isn't in synaptic
[03:51] <SpAwN> yes
[03:51] <navarone> Spawn> this thread may help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75581.html
[03:51] <jhbramlett> epiphany requires gnome? (I'm running the smaller, faster xfce)
[03:51] <SpAwN> maby i should uninstall esd and install polypautio
[03:51] <Varanger> does someone know what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile ?
[03:52] <morphix> openbox ;)
[03:52] <daniel_s> Varanger: i think bash_profile is run whenever you start a terminal
[03:52] <pepsi> boo!
[03:52] <navarone> Look for the Beastboy entry
[03:52] <Varanger> daniel_s: and .bashrc ?
[03:52] <navarone> Maybe you have to do complete removal of the polyaudio thingy...<?>
[03:53] <daniel_s> bashrc is run when bash is executed is some other way - e.g. if you write 'bash <command>'
[03:53] <Epix> is there anything that will do this?
[03:53] <XiCillin> anybody get dvd's to run in mplayer? without it opening it up as a directory?
[03:54] <daniel_s> i have just installed ubuntu and the display is shifted to the right be about 5 pixels - any suggestions on how to fix this? i have tried using 'xvidtune' to no avail
[03:54] <SpAwN> yea navarone i read that and when i went to uninstall polyp....i looked in synaptic and it wasnt installed and esd was already installed?
[03:54] <navarone> hmmm...maybe you need polypaudio then...<shrug>
[03:54] <SpAwN> ill give it a go
[03:55] <MickMcMack> DAMN YOU!
[03:55] <MickMcMack> :(
[03:55] <MickMcMack> Ubuntu just installed the jdk1.4.2 over my 1.5 installation.
[03:55] <XiCillin> daniel_s try auto adjust on your monitor
[03:55] <MickMcMack> And it will not go away!
[03:55] <SpAwN> well ill brb
[03:56] <daniel_s> XiCillin: its on a laptop so no auto-adjust available afaik
[03:56] <jasongrieves> join #ubuntu-accessibility
[03:56] <jasongrieves> oops
[03:56] <jasongrieves> heheh
[03:56] <SoulPropagation> where do i put mplayer codecs
[03:56] <parvex> mmm
[03:57] <parvex> holas
[03:57] <jasongrieves> that's what happens when ur working until 9 PM
[03:57] <parvex> hola
[03:57] <parvex> disculp'en alguien save si hay msn para ubuntu
[03:57] <parvex> hola
[03:57] <SoulPropagation> !es
[03:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <SoulPropagation> parvex: que ubotu habl
[03:58] <pygrammer> hey, how can I fix my network initialization?
[03:58] <parvex> 5.10
[03:58] <pygrammer> when ubuntu was installed, somehow my two NICs weren't configured right (wireless and right)
[03:58] <pygrammer> *wired
[03:58] <deang> Can anyone suggest a good, and appropriate, text based adventure for my 7 year old?
[03:58] <MickMcMack> Ubuntu KILLED my Java. :|
[03:58] <pygrammer> and lo doesn't even initialize correctly
[03:58] <pygrammer> it's mapped to nothing
[03:59] <pygrammer> so it doesn't know itself :P
[03:59] <parvex> mm gracias
[03:59] <parvex> necesito ayuda
[03:59] <pygrammer> and eth1 isn't initialized eiter
[03:59] <pygrammer> *either
[03:59] <parvex> quieron un msn
[03:59] <parvex> para ubuntu
[03:59] <pygrammer> so i'm wondering how i'd set that up ... i can't find the appropriate files
[03:59] <pygrammer> i want dhclient to do it on boot-up
[03:59] <Villa> hi
[03:59] <SoulPropagation> parvex: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:59] <SoulPropagation> es canal en espanol
[04:01] <SoulPropagation> parvex: comprende?
[04:02] <SpAwN> well i installed polypaudio and still have no sound
[04:03] <SpAwN> this stinks i dont want to go back to mandriva yet....i realy wanted to try ubuntu
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> You have unmuted the sound mixer? :P
[04:04] <cenopec> how do i mount my optical drive
[04:04] <cenopec> in terminal
[04:04] <SpAwN> well i have unmuted everything i think
[04:04] <DapperDan> Crouching python Hidden elephant - python.projects.postgresql.org
[04:04] <SoulPropagation> cenopec: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[04:04] <cenopec> sudo mount /dev/
[04:04] <cenopec> k
[04:04] <DapperDan> "LAMP" is overated. I use LAPP... and sometimes LARP!
[04:04] <eternalist> LAMP's the shiz
[04:05] <zack> SpAwN: http://www.nabble.com/Bug-339589:-ftp.debian.org:-Please-remove-polypaudio-t569920.html
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> LARP? -
[04:05] <DapperDan> I've found LAPP and LARP to be better ;)
[04:05] <eternalist> how about WIMP
[04:05] <eternalist> Windows IIS Mysql and PHP
[04:05] <eternalist> ahah
[04:05] <DapperDan> Linux, Apache, Ruby, Postgresql
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> thats reminds me of getting smacked with a wooden sword by a large amazon.
[04:05] <eternalist> Ruby is so underrated eh
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Live Action Role Playing. :P
[04:06] <cenopec> how do i open the cdrom drive from terminal
[04:06] <darkgamer20> I would really like to thank the Ubuntu community for making such a great distribution! THANK YOU!
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> We are getting way too many anacronams these days
[04:06] <navarone> Spawn are you ona  alptop?
[04:06] <SpAwN> no
[04:06] <navarone> laptop
[04:06] <SoulPropagation> where do i put mplayer codecs
[04:06] <clint-> hi all
[04:06] <navarone> hmm
[04:06] <SpAwN> a dell dimension 8400
[04:06] <jsubl2> navarone: /usr/lib/win32
[04:07] <navarone> huh?
[04:07] <badmacktuck> hello all
[04:07] <SoulPropagation> jsubl2: i'm not navarone : )
[04:07] <clint-> I'm back with ubuntu as well.. hardware detection works awesome, on this Acer Aspire 3610, 3613 WLCi actually. but going to edit /etc/fstab
[04:08] <clint-> I have 4 operating systems on my notebook... :)
[04:08] <badmacktuck> are php and mysql installed in breezy by default? if not what are the packages called?
[04:08] <SoulPropagation> clint-: have fun
[04:08] <navarone> Spawn...in System/Preferences/sound does it have anyhting about external amplifier? The thread I read involves a laptop with that as a prob...but maybe it is in yours as well...<s>
[04:08] <clint-> i do :-)
[04:08] <dpupp> wow... kde looks nice.
[04:08] <aedes> has anyone used cupsaddsmb?  I'm getting a WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[04:09] <SpAwN> no nothing about external
[04:09] <navarone> Spawn> in the volume control rather...sry
[04:09] <SpAwN> no
[04:09] <dpupp> what are files that end in ~ for example: todolist~
[04:09] <jhbramlett> wow epiphany is fast on a low resources machine
[04:09] <darkgamer20> is there a ubuntu HCL?
[04:09] <SpAwN> still nothing about external
[04:09] <dpupp> or 404.htm.txt~
[04:10] <knopf> hi. how can I install a specific package? I need to install gcc-3.4.4
[04:10] <knopf> apt-get install gcc-3.4.4 does not work
[04:10] <navarone> Spawn> maybe in edit/prefernces in volume control?
[04:10] <yuri> hi. I need some quick help if someone wouldn't mind. I have a .TTF font file. what directory do i put it on so that openoffice would see it?
[04:10] <dpupp> is it save to delete files ending in filename.txt~
[04:10] <clint-> knopf,
[04:10] <clint-> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4.4
[04:11] <SpAwN> ahh i see it
[04:11] <SpAwN> i selected it
[04:11] <clint-> first update though..
[04:11] <knopf> clint, it says: couldn't find package
[04:11] <clint-> 1 sec
[04:11] <knopf> clint, even after an update
[04:11] <navarone> Spawn uncheck the external thingy
[04:11] <SpAwN> allright i just unchecked it
[04:12] <SpAwN> the way it orignaly was
[04:12] <badmacktuck> anybody know about breezy and php/mysql?
[04:12] <navarone> Sapwn here is the thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1951256#post1951256   <--- bb002 entry
[04:12] <knopf> clint, ah i see, it only has gcc-3.3
[04:12] <SpAwN> allright thanks navarone
[04:12] <navarone> Dunno if it will help
[04:13] <SpAwN> i hope it does
[04:13] <darkgamer20> is there a ubuntu HCL?
[04:13] <navarone> btw Spawn...did you try the alsamixer in terminal to see if volumes were muted?
[04:14] <clint-> k
[04:14] <clint-> I'm working with eding my /etc/fstab
[04:14] <clint-> kind of busy right now.. someone will help ya though
[04:14] <SpAwN> yes i did navarone
[04:17] <SpAwN> brb
[04:17] <clint-> k.. anyone know how I can work in the GUI with editing configuration files?
[04:17] <SoulPropagation> clint-: gedit
[04:17] <djk_> kdesu kwrite for example..
[04:17] <clint-> tryin
[04:18] <djk_> eh, gksu gedit if you're using gnome.
[04:18] <clint-> k
[04:18] <Villa> anyone ever try to run ubuntu an an IBM iSeries?
[04:18] <clint-> that will let me make changes?
[04:18] <clint-> and save them
[04:19] <clint-> I took and copied what knoppix had, and I tought myself a couple things.. wanting to mount ntfs.. and dvd.. and other things :)
[04:20] <djk_> yes, you'll be able to make changes and save them.
[04:20] <clint-> ty
[04:20] <djk_> yw
[04:20] <rebort> can anyone take a look at http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/#comments
[04:21] <rebort> errr nevermind that...
[04:21] <rebort> this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[04:21] <cornflake> does anyone know how to downgrade a system?
[04:21] <clint-> brb
[04:21] <morphix> is there a way to change the default highlighted os choice in GRUB?
[04:21] <morphix> so instead of being default highlighted on ubuntu i can make it another.
[04:22] <cornflake> morphix, yes... try man grub
[04:24] <djk_> rebort: hehe, nice bug.
[04:25] <dodgyville> Hello
[04:25] <clint-> k now , this is messed up, asking me to enter password to unlock keyring
[04:25] <oblib> Trying to work my parallel port scanner and I get this error:scanimage: open of device plustek_pp:/dev/lp0 failed: Error during device I/O
[04:25] <oblib> Any help?
[04:27] <blackraven14250> I'm trying to run updates, but what is the sudo password set to as default? I've entered what I have for root about 6 times already, and blank, and it won't work.
[04:27] <SpAwN> damn well im just about out of ideas to get sound working
[04:27] <clint-> your user password Black_Hat
[04:27] <morphix> lol.
[04:27] <clint-> blackraven14250,
[04:27] <clint-> yeah.. I systems get locked up sometings. .what another good thing you can sometimes do is..  su -
[04:27] <Varanger> I have installed wine (sudo apt-get install wine)
[04:28] <Varanger> how can I configure it ??
[04:28] <clint-> djk_,
[04:28] <clint-> did that. but asked for keyring
[04:28] <Varanger> If I install winesetuptk, it wants to uninstall wine
[04:28] <clint-> Varanger,
[04:28] <navarone> sry spawn...me too
[04:28] <clint-> VMware or win4lin.. or codeweavers
[04:28] <cenopec> can someone please help me
[04:28] <clint-> Wine isn't all that great yet.. :-)
[04:28] <cenopec> my comp is going to hell
[04:29] <SpAwN> yea i think imma go install a diff distro ........:(
[04:29] <cenopec> my floppy light is always on, but does not work and i cant mount it
[04:29] <clint-> what you want it for
[04:29] <SpAwN> i realy wanted to use ubuntu too
[04:29] <navarone> Spwan...you can get a pci card and disable onboard sound
[04:29] <clint-> I know.. I chose ubuntu because of its great hardware support
[04:29] <cenopec> i cant mount my cd rom anymore as well, but that gives no response
[04:29] <SpAwN> yea im not gonna go but another sound card if this one works
[04:29] <_jason> does anyone know how to enable auto-repeat on mouse buttons? (similar to how when you hold down a letter on your keyboard it repeats instead of just one letter appearing)
[04:29] <clint-> I use others.. Its the laptop.. its a punk. and new being...
[04:30] <SpAwN> i dont got the income too
[04:30] <navarone> I hear ya Spawn
[04:30] <PorcupineTree> do we see ubuntu getting a newer version of GhostscriptESP soon?
[04:30] <navarone> Spawn...but SB live is like 40 bucks Canadian at staples
[04:30] <cenopec> PLEASE
[04:30] <SpAwN> well i might try somthing else if i find it....but umm thanks everyone for ya help
[04:30] <clint-> I have Xandros , Linspire 5.0, FreeBSD 6.0, PC BSD, Mandriva 2006 screwed up my network, Fedora Core 4 had synaptic touchpad problems,  PHLAK, Mandrake 10.0 was first.. Red Hat 9 is worthless.. Fedora Core 1 is outdated..
[04:31] <SpAwN> hehe yea
[04:31] <SpAwN> well it works in xp and mandriva
[04:31] <clint-> tried Suse 10.0 but it had an error.. and I wasn't happy about that either, but I might give it another try
[04:31] <blackraven14250> clint-, i don't get what you mean.
[04:31] <SpAwN> so ill just use one of them i guess
[04:31] <navarone> okay...best stay with that then...maybe wait for better support in new realease
[04:31] <clint-> well I run more than 1 on this notebook
[04:31] <navarone> brb
[04:31] <SpAwN> yea
[04:32] <clint-> Windows XP Professional, Xandros Business 3.0, which I stripped.. and Ubuntu.. and also .. PC BSD
[04:32] <Varanger> clint-: what's the difference between Hoary's wine and Breezy's wine?
[04:32] <clint-> your asking the wrong person.. :-)
[04:32] <cenopec> some one please help me i dontknow what to do
[04:33] <badmacktuck> anyone here know how to setup mysql on a breezy box?
[04:33] <natdigga> What's a free windoze emulator I can install easily?
[04:34] <blackraven14250> does anoyne here know what the default password is for sudo and gksudo?
[04:34] <cenopec> PLEASE HELP, MY COMP IS DYING
[04:34] <james_> cenopec-don't yell
[04:34] <SpAwN> well im gonna go reinstall a diff os....i appreciate the help and hopfully ill get back in here when i can my sound to work on ubuntu :D pz out
[04:35] <cenopec> james_: well no one will help and i cant use any periphs right now
[04:35] <Blissex> cenopec: describe your problem...
[04:36] <cenopec> k first my floppy drive will not work, the light is on, but when i try to mount it in the terminal and in browser window, neither seems to work
[04:36] <cenopec> in terminal nothing happened and no new command prompt apears it just doesnt do anything
[04:37] <clint-> lmfao I just saved my fstab :D
[04:37] <clint-> now all partitions on my notebook gettin mounted automatically :D
[04:37] <cenopec> now my dvdrw is pulling the same thing
[04:37] <Blissex> cenopec: try the 'dmesg' command to see if it says something like error messages...
[04:37] <clint-> and I did this myself.. gksu gedit didn't work worth crap
[04:37] <clint-> -> sudo gedit
[04:37] <cenopec> k
[04:37] <clint-> brb all
[04:37] <jason0_> I'm installing ubuntu right, I've gotten to the grub part. I already have fc4 and windows on /dev/hda1, but it only lists XP. I'm assuming its not safe to install grub?
[04:37] <clint-> I am going see if this works :D
[04:38] <clint-> jason0_,
[04:38] <clint-> install Acronis Disk Director Suite 9 bud
[04:38] <cenopec> seems like mostly I\O errors
[04:38] <clint-> thats what I use, and I run over 5 operating systems*
[04:38] <cenopec> but there are tons
[04:38] <JaZyLNX> how can i search for a process i started i need to do it through command so i can kill it( i'm the user who started it)
[04:38] <iRonWindows> here's a weird issue... I just installed Breezy Badger, and there is nothing to config a wireless card... ndiswrapper does its thing, but wlancfg just hangs (or maybe i'm not patient enough)
[04:39] <jason0_> anyone else?
[04:39] <iRonWindows> i had to apt those btw
[04:39] <clint-> jason
[04:39] <cenopec> any idea?
[04:39] <clint-> use Acronis Disk Director Suite 9!!!
[04:39] <clint-> be back all
[04:39] <lampshade> JaZyLNX:  ps -A | grep programname
[04:39] <cenopec> could it be a hardware error, ie, bad ide cable?
[04:41] <chapium> whats the name of that account management software
[04:41] <chapium> sorry, thats wrong
[04:41] <JaZyLNX> tecknogod or dvs here?
[04:41] <chapium> its similar to quicken
[04:41] <JaZyLNX> thanks lampshade
[04:41] <chapium> gsomething
[04:42] <Amaranth> chapium: gnucash
[04:42] <chapium> the gnu equivalent to quicken/ms-money
[04:42] <chapium> thanks!
[04:42] <chapium> couldnt think of it for the life of me
[04:43] <chapium> is gnucash not in the ubuntu repos?
[04:43] <iRonWindows> i read about that "windows wireless driver" app, how do I install that without a network connection?
[04:43] <chapium> seems like it would be of all things that are actually in ther
[04:43] <clint-> k.. that didn't work. .erm
[04:44] <jsubl2> !find gnucash
[04:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'gnucash' (3 shown): gnucash ;; gnucash-common ;; gnucash-docs.
[04:44] <alekz> if i install ssh server what else i should do to users can access my server?
[04:44] <clint-> anyone know how I can mount my ntfs paritition. hda1 etc. which Has my music on it. and books I like to read.. dam fstab didnt' work.. argh
[04:44] <chapium> hmm
[04:44] <chapium> insterstingly its not in the add application thingy
[04:45] <jason0_> clint-: d/l the ntfs kernel modules.
[04:45] <clint-> k
[04:45] <clint-> how I go about doing that
[04:45] <jsubl2> chapium: use synaptic
[04:45] <clint-> there should be a way right. to get into root, and then enable in Disks options. where it says . incessible. thats bs
[04:45] <chapium> jsteidl, i'm trying to stick to one package manager
[04:46] <jsubl2> clint-: sudo modprobe ntfs
[04:47] <Amaranth> chapium: apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic all use the same backend
[04:47] <clint-> k
[04:47] <chapium> hmm, ok
[04:47] <insipid> it really necessary to chroot for certain binaries such as cageda when using the amd64 kernel?  doesnt the 32-bit libraries suffice?
[04:47] <chapium> why would the ubuntu team hide it?  I wasn't aware of any politics
[04:47] <clint-> nothing happens
[04:47] <chapium> and its stable enough for fedora
[04:48] <insipid> Amaranth, dpkg i presume?
[04:48] <jsubl2> clint you need to install linux-restricted-`uname -r`
[04:48] <clint-> chapium, , we all just have to work together
[04:48] <clint-> ah
[04:48] <Amaranth> insipid: yep
[04:48] <chapium> clint-, no magic bullet yet i suppose
[04:48] <clint-> k... just tell me what apt to install
[04:49] <clint-> well I tried using the knoppix fstab. configuration had.   :-)
[04:49] <natdigga> Question...I can't run edubuntu in the same install as breezy 5.10 ubuntu?
[04:49] <clint-> its amazing,, Xandros, Linspire, Knoppix.. gee you systems are ma fav :D
[04:49] <insipid> Synaptic is quite an impressive GUI...
[04:49] <clint-> but not so dam great for my laptop hardware detection :-)
[04:50] <clint-> hey I did the gksu gedit, but it ask for a keyring
[04:51] <oblib> Trying to work my parallel port scanner and I get this error:   scanimage: open of device plustek_pp:/dev/lp0 failed: Error during device I/O
[04:51] <oblib> Any help?
[04:51] <chapium> i noticed ubuntu installed gnome-bittorent by default.  Is it used in any special way by the distribution?
[04:51] <Kayde> ubuntu problem with toshiba satellite ps223a 59084 laptop-screen has vertical fuzzy lines
[04:52] <snorks> How does drivers work in vmware?
[04:52] <chapium> snorks, i'm using vmware right now, what do you mean?
[04:52] <snorks> Like, directx and graphic card drivers, if installed on a vmware machine running windows XP
[04:52] <snorks> chapium: I don't quite get it
[04:52] <snorks> chapium: Is it another resort than Cedega?
[04:53] <snorks> chapium: If one is a gamer?
[04:53] <La_PaRCa> hey kinds
[04:53] <snorks> a linux computer running windows xp in vmware is what i mean
[04:53] <chapium> snorks, vmware probably wont enable any high end games since its such a resouce hog
[04:53] <chapium> snorks, supposedly starcraft works in it though
[04:53] <snorks> okey
[04:53] <snorks> thanks chap :)
[04:54] <oblib> anyone used MythTV in Ubuntu?
[04:54] <snorks> i will use it for other issues though
[04:54] <chapium> snorks, thats all i know, haven't tried it myself :D
[04:54] <snorks> chapium: You gave me exactly what I wanted to know
[04:55] <snorks> What version should I buy if I wanna test windows xp clients up against smb/ldap solutions?
[04:55] <chapium> snorks, one thing is for sure.. vmware uses quite a bit of ram.  You can configure how much though
[04:55] <snorks> vmware workstation?
[04:55] <chapium> snorks, i'm using the player actually
[04:55] <somedude> ubuntu is a word from south africa or something n stuff
[04:55] <snorks> chapium: I need to create the "images"
[04:56] <chapium> snorks, i'll get you a liink in 5 seconds for that
[04:58] <jimmyhends> does ubuntu install sshd
[04:58] <JaZyLNX> you can always apt-get it
[04:58] <JaZyLNX> but i beleve it does
[04:59] <rebort> djk_: you know anything about the bug?
[04:59] <chapium> jimmyhends, i think i remember having to enable it
[04:59] <thoreauputic> jimmyhends: not by default - install openssh-serer
[04:59] <thoreauputic> *server
[04:59] <FireRabbit> are the images used for the official ubuntu cds avaliable online somewhere?
[04:59] <clint-> so this?
[04:59] <clint-> apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7?
[04:59] <rebort> its been plaguing me for a long time
[04:59] <rebort> i havent been able to use gnome
[05:00] <rebort> djk_: i really cant seem to solve it a few things that sometimes worked to fix the problem no longer do. and why would they only sometimes work I wonder.
[05:01] <rebort> that's the strangest thing
[05:01] <clint-> k.. well it looks like Suse Linux 10.0 now
[05:01] <clint-> cya you all later... :)
[05:01] <Kayde> WTF is Gedit?!
[05:01] <clint-> bye bye ubuntu :-)
[05:01] <Kayde> WTF is Gedit?!
[05:01] <rebort> Kayde: a text editor
[05:01] <Kayde> how do i acces?
[05:01] <JaZyLNX> gedit
[05:01] <rebort> what clint- ?
[05:01] <clint-> its a graphic user interface to edit config files Kayde .. etc.
[05:01] <rebort> access what?
[05:01] <nicholaspaul> Am i the only one who has trouble installing WINE from the repositories?
[05:01] <Kayde> ubuntu?
[05:02] <rebort> go to programs>accessories>gedit
[05:02] <clint-> I am leavin... ty
[05:02] <rebort> programs>accessories>text editor rather
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> or just run
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> gedit
[05:02] <rebort> suse is pretty nice clint-
[05:02] <Kayde> i dont have
[05:02] <clint-> I'll let you all know how Suse goes on my laptop .. :-)
[05:02] <clint-> ty rebort
[05:02] <clint-> ty
[05:02] <rebort> you dont have gedit?
[05:02] <nicholaspaul> rebort - how is suse on ppc?
[05:02] <clint-> I like it too
[05:02] <clint-> :)
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> you don't have run app?
[05:02] <Kayde> no...
[05:02] <clint-> I don't just use 1 OS
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> install it
[05:03] <Kayde> its not under accesorys
[05:03] <clint-> Windows XP Pro, Xandros Business 3.0, PC BSD, etc
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here any good using WINE?
[05:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here get quake 4 demo to run?
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> use apt to get it
[05:03] <rebort> nicholaspaul: never used it on ppc
[05:03] <clint-> see ya though
[05:03] <Kayde> apt?
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> oh ok rebort.
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Kayde: open a terminal and type   gedit   (it's installed by default, unless you have Kubuntu
[05:03] <rebort> nicholaspaul: or x86 for that matter but a few friends have really liked it
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> kayde - sudo apt-get install [nameofprog] 
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> use synaptic Kayde
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> just search for gedit
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> and install
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> rebort. oh ok . i'm looking for something that is better supported on ppc
[05:04] <rebort> djk_: you know anything about that bug? ahhhh
[05:04] <rumplefor> could anybody help me with a small C language program?
[05:04] <JaZyLNX> yeah rumplefor
[05:04] <rebort> nicholaspaul: what are your problems with ubuntu ppc?
[05:04] <JaZyLNX> c or c++?
[05:04] <rebort> ruminator: maybe
[05:04] <rumplefor> just C
[05:04] <rebort> rumplefor: maybe,
[05:04] <Trashcan> what's the problem?
[05:04] <Trashcan> btw, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:04] <insipid> when working with a package manager i cant resolve archive.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <rebort> can anyone help me with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[05:05] <insipid> for example after reloading synaptic
[05:05] <rumplefor> my program doesnt work.
[05:05] <ulinskie> got a q.  how can I turn of the animation when I am minimizing my window so that my system will run faster?
[05:05] <aedes> has anyone here ever setup a shared printer via samba?
[05:05] <Trashcan> rumplefor: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:05] <rebort> ulinskie: that is in gnome?
[05:05] <insipid> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[05:06] <rebort> its up here
[05:06] <insipid> i wonder why i cant resolve it
[05:06] <rebort> does it resolve in firefox?
[05:07] <insipid> oh wait a second check this out.. haha.. http://.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not resolve '.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:07] <insipid> notice how that . is there, i bet that is the problem...
[05:07] <insipid> interesting considering that was left untouched, i let the installer handle all that
[05:07] <rebort> i really want gnome back, anyone for http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479?
[05:07] <rebort> remove that ? from the end...
[05:08] <ulinskie> got a q.  how can I turn of the animation when I am minimizing my window so that my system will run faster?
[05:08] <rebort> ulinskie: do you use gnome?
[05:09] <Varanger> how can I make a iso file with dd ? dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/archivo.iso ??
[05:09] <sethk> ulinskie, wrong question.  first question is:  is the animation still running when you minimize the window?
[05:09] <sethk> ulinskie, and the answer is highly likely to be:  no
[05:09] <ulinskie> yes I am running gnome
[05:09] <ulinskie> yes...
[05:09] <rebort> ulinskie: i think you can with kde ill check for gnome...
[05:10] <ulinskie> the animation still runs when I minimize my window
[05:10] <insipid> also... another thing that i don't understand.. i can su root then insert password and everything works nicely.. however i cant sudo <blah blah> because when i insert the root password it tells me Sorry, try again.  However, the password I insert IS the root password and it DOES work when using the su command
[05:10] <sethk> ulinskie, how do you know that?
[05:10] <sethk> insipid, use your password, not the root password
[05:10] <ulinskie> it produces a frame sequence of the window sized when I minimize the window
[05:10] <thoreauputic> !tell insipid about sudo
[05:11] <insipid> oh that sounds safe, everyone gets superuser privs
[05:11] <Pablo> err... can someone help please
[05:11] <Pablo>  Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[05:11] <xkahn> insipid: no.
[05:11] <rebort> Pablo: sure, i'll try
[05:11] <Pablo> ok
[05:11] <thoreauputic> insipid: no, only the first user
[05:11] <xkahn> insipid: only people in the "admin" group.
[05:11] <thoreauputic> bydefault
[05:11] <chapium> isnt it only the first user specified?
[05:11] <sethk> insipid, it of course isn't at all safe.  However, you can set sudo up properly with the visudo command
[05:11] <rebort> Pablo: what are you trying to compile?
[05:11] <insipid> thanks
[05:11] <Pablo> qwireless
[05:11] <Pablo> rebort
[05:11] <sethk> chapium, I think that's the default, yes.
[05:12] <rebort> why do you need qwireless?
[05:12] <chapium> so it might be wise to create a new user outside of the admin group for general usage?
[05:12] <xkahn> actually, can someone test something for me?
[05:12] <rebort> Pablo: there are newer, better programs I think
[05:12] <Pablo> rebort, I wanted to try it out before I put it on my ipaq
[05:12] <xkahn> can they create a test user
[05:12] <Pablo> what is better?
[05:12] <sethk> chapium, yes, I think that's prudent
[05:13] <me_> I've recentlry intalled ubuntu on an older computer at home but the sound isn't working.  Can anyone in here help me find out if/how I can get sound working?
[05:13] <xkahn> And then run: su -i -u thetestusertheycreated
[05:13] <xkahn> And see if X applications work?
[05:13] <xkahn> like gedit?
[05:13] <Pablo> rebort, have you used qwireless before?
[05:13] <rebort> Pablo: no, only kwifimanager
[05:13] <rebort> Pablo: you need the qt2 dev libraries
[05:13] <Pablo> ok
[05:14] <Pablo> let me tryit
[05:14] <insipid> alright its still problematic: http://archive.ubuntu.com/dists/breezy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[05:14] <chapium> so another small question:  why can't gnome-games be removed?
[05:14] <rebort> try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz insipid :)
[05:15] <rebort> Pablo: I don't know if those libraries are available in synaptic
[05:15] <thoreauputic> insipid: yes I get a 404 too
[05:15] <Pablo> rebort, will qt3 not work?
[05:15] <P8ntKid> How do you extract a tar.bz2 file?
[05:15] <rebort> i'm not sure, it may
[05:15] <me_> Is it possible to turn .deb files into .rpm files?  I've heard of this before.  Here is the site with and rpm driver for my sound card:  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/install.php?PHPSESSID=7552ba17f2c586e820c224456c398619
[05:15] <Pablo> ok
[05:15] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid:  tar xvjf <file>
[05:15] <Pablo> I will get qt2
[05:15] <me_> sorry, rpm into deb
[05:15] <rebort> try getting those
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> me_, use alien
[05:16] <La_PaRCa> me_, man alien
[05:16] <Pablo> then come back if I have a problem... thanks rebort
[05:16] <rebort> Pablo: i'm not sure where you'dget those
[05:16] <rumplefor> o crap i orgot to sroll down!
[05:16] <xiO_> anyone know why my ubuntu 5.1 would fail with a repeated "Killed" command referring to debianconf?
[05:17] <insipid> rebort:  this is in my sources.list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:17] <me_> La_PaRCa - is alien available for ubuntu?
[05:17] <insipid> i should add /ubuntu?
[05:17] <rebort> insipid: in mine too
[05:17] <La_PaRCa> me_, yeah
[05:17] <thoreauputic> !info alien
[05:17] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[05:17] <rebort> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:18] <chapium> i think i see why gnucash is hidden in ubuntu
[05:18] <rebort> yeah
[05:18] <chapium> perhaps it has to do with it not being gtk2 yet?
[05:18] <rebort> Pablo: search qt3 in synaptic, look at the results
[05:18] <insipid> rebort, appreciate it... interestingly enough this was how it came by default.. i did not change anything in the installer
[05:18] <xiO_> during install, that is
[05:18] <rebort> insipid: backports isnt in the installer, it may have been from automatix or something
[05:19] <rebort> id really love to fix http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 if anyone can help
[05:20] <twidget> What does this mean? "Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[05:20] <twidget> Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[05:20] <twidget> "
[05:20] <rebort> twidget: what were you trying to run
[05:21] <chapium> twidget, what program?
[05:21] <twidget> OS boot
[05:21] <twidget> Breezy
[05:21] <twidget> Something about GNOME config cannot be saved
[05:21] <ulinskie> anybody knows the ans. to my question?
[05:21] <rebort> twidget: i don't really know, corba is something gnome uses for some low-level purpose i think
[05:22] <rebort> twidget: does everything work
[05:22] <rebort> ulinskie: what was your ?
[05:22] <twidget> rebort, seems to. Net connection seems really slow. I don't know if there's a connection.
[05:22] <ulinskie> how can I take the animation off when I minimize my window
[05:23] <rebort> are you using that computer now?
[05:23] <rebort> ulinskie: in gnome, i dont think you can
[05:23] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: When i did that, it cluttered up my home folder with files :( how to I make it so it makes its own folder?
[05:23] <ulinskie> oic... thanks
[05:23] <me_> ok, I just installed alien.  I'm gonna download the rpm sound driver and see it gets the sound to work.
[05:23] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: oh, that means the guty  who made the file buggered it up
[05:23] <rebort> ulinskie:
[05:24] <rumplefor> http://pastebin.com/445785
[05:24] <rumplefor> oops srry
[05:24] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: best to untar in /home/you/tmp or similar
[05:24] <rebort> ulinskie: launch gconf-editor, go to /apps/metacity/general and check reduced_resources
[05:24] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: How did I do that?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: that's really irritating when the person who makes the tarball doesn't tar the directory properly
[05:25] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: it wasn't you, unless you created the file
[05:25] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Yep.
[05:25] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Lol, no it wasnt me.
[05:26] <clemslacker> hello
[05:26] <rebort> ulinskie: that work for you?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: complain to whoever made that tar.bz2 then
[05:26] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: no tarball should spray files all over your directory like that
[05:27] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Could i do something like "tar -xvjf <filename> /home/jon/foldernamehere"?
[05:28] <rebort> P8ntKid: yeah im pretty sure you can
[05:28] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: you can direct the output, yes - I forget the option - maybe -d (check the man page)
[05:28] <Villa> what font is gaim using for the list of contacts?
[05:29] <defendguin> any plans to get firefox 1.5 for breezy?
[05:29] <Villa> special chars show in gaim but not in licq
[05:29] <Villa> so I need to figure out what font gaim uses
[05:29] <sambagirl> test
[05:29] <jbroome> sambagirl: rcvd
[05:29] <slew> it works sambagirl
[05:29] <SumoJim> Does anyone know how to "expand repositories" for hoary hedgehog?
[05:29] <sambagirl> thank you
[05:29] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: i just move the tarball to /home/me/tmp before untarring (in case of these problems)
[05:30] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Ok.
[05:30] <gp_aaron> is gnomebaker installed by default on ubuntu 5.10 installs
[05:30] <gp_aaron> ?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> gp_aaron,  dont think so
[05:30] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Thanks.
[05:30] <thoreauputic> gp_aaron: no
[05:31] <gp_aaron> thomhash: it's included in the repo right :|
[05:31] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: no worries :)
[05:31] <thoreauputic> !info gnomebaker
[05:31] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 359 kB, Installed size: 1240 kB
[05:31] <P8ntKid> Well, its time to upgrade to breezy now.
[05:31] <thoreauputic> in universe
[05:31] <insipid> okay, is it possible to install 32 bit libraries with a 64 bit kernel package so i can apt-get install xwine... or will i need to debootstrab
[05:31] <insipid> debootstrap even
[05:31] <gp_aaron> thoreauputic: ok, i don't use ubuntu though so it's all good
[05:31] <gp_aaron> i just have a non-geeky friend who does
[05:32] <dpupp> omg! these sounds are driving me crazy! i dont need sound for minimizing or maximizing a window.. or closing or opening a window... how do i turn those off in kde?
[05:32] <dpupp> i feel like im playing with a fisher-price toy!
[05:32] <kismet> i want command-line control of my linux machine from my windows machine on my home network: telnet? what am i looking for here? no GUI needed
[05:32] <gp_aaron> dpupp: install gnome
[05:32] <thoreauputic> dpupp: heh - I know what you mean - there's an option in kcontrol somewhere
[05:32] <gp_aaron> kismet: you want to ssh into your linux box
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> kismet,  use 'ssh' and 'puty.exe'
[05:32] <dpupp> gp_aaron, i have gnome also installed.
[05:32] <gp_aaron> kismet: google for putty.exe
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> or is it 'putty.exe'
[05:33] <jasongrieves> i think the KDE task bar needs to lose about 30 pounds
[05:33] <thoreauputic> dpupp: maybe ask in #kubuntu
[05:33] <gp_aaron> the best ssh client for windows
[05:33] <dpupp> ah! true!
[05:33] <dpupp> my mad.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> winscp is also handy for windows->linux transfers and stuff.
[05:33] <kismet> i've got putty.exe, I want sshd? what's the package name?
[05:33] <Villa> what font will display all the crazy chars that people use in their handles and etc
[05:33] <gp_aaron> kismet: openssh
[05:33] <kismet> danke
[05:33] <gp_aaron> i think..
[05:33] <SumoJim> Does anyone know where I could look to find information on expanding my repositories? Aside from the forums?
[05:33] <Villa> some people make their name so crazy and licq don't display them correctly but gaim does
[05:33] <gp_aaron> it is on any other distro
[05:33] <Villa> what font does gaim use
[05:34] <jrattner1> SumoJim, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type repositories
[05:34] <thoreauputic> openssh-server (for sshd)
[05:34] <jrattner1> ubotu, tell SumoJim repositories
[05:34] <gp_aaron> Villathe default one setup in gtk
[05:34] <SumoJim> Thanks.
[05:34] <Hentai^XPwork> nutty
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !repos
[05:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:34] <jrattner1> thoreauputic, ahhh thank you
[05:34] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:34] <SumoJim> thanks!
[05:35] <cosimo321> hello all
[05:35] <rebort> someone give bug 16479 a try at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 please!
[05:35] <botbuilder> finally got ubuntu on my old comp
[05:35] <cosimo321>  I just installed kubuntu and need ot enable the repositories how do i do that?
[05:35] <botbuilder> To do it I connected my hard drive to the new comp and installed on to it
[05:35] <botbuilder> ...
[05:35] <botbuilder> anyway
[05:35] <botbuilder> now it won't boot
[05:35] <kismet> hey, i've got a nutty idea - why not dump standard .conf style, and use XML configuration files, that can then easily be fiddled with using a GUI
[05:36] <thoreauputic> rebort: that's a nasty one (i looked but I have no idea what the answe is, sorry)
[05:36] <thoreauputic> *answer
[05:36] <botbuilder> it says "ACPI: unable to locate RSDP"
[05:36] <botbuilder> then freezes on "Loading, please wait"
[05:36] <rebort> thoreauputic: i havent been able to use gnome for about 2 months
[05:36] <thoreauputic> kismet: that has often been suggested :)
[05:36] <botbuilder> and this is booting with "noapic noacpi"
[05:36] <botbuilder> anyideas?
[05:37] <Arafangion> How do I change hte default editor?
[05:37] <gp_aaron> kismet: i like the .conf setup
[05:37] <Arafangion> I don't see any set environment variable, such as EDITOR.
[05:37] <flankk> botbuilder, apic?
[05:38] <botbuilder> flankk - some other guy suggested it
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Arafangion:   update-alternatives --config editor
[05:38] <Arafangion> fami: Just ask in the damn channel.
[05:38] <botbuilder> its probably not even a param
[05:38] <botbuilder> or arg
[05:38] <fami> Arafangion: it is off channel
[05:38] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Most systems use a standard environment flag.
[05:38] <botbuilder> he must have just spelled acpi wrong
[05:38] <Arafangion> fami: Why is it off channel?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I'm aware of that
[05:39] <flankk> botbuilder, well it won't work if you spell it wrong..
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: try my suggestion
[05:39] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Thanks :)
[05:39] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:39] <sol> hello
[05:39] <fami> Arafangion: not ubuntu things
[05:39] <botbuilder> flankk - lol
[05:39] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Now, how does a specific user set it up?
[05:39] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Non-root.
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: AFAIK you can run that command as a user
[05:40] <botbuilder> flankk - same error if its only "noacpi"
[05:40] <botbuilder> This comp works fine with windows
[05:40] <Arafangion> Using `/usr/bin/vim' to provide `editor'.
[05:40] <Arafangion> update-alternatives: unable to make /etc/alternatives/editor.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /usr/bin/vim: Permission denied
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: ah, no sorry
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: right I just did the same :)
[05:41] <botbuilder> but whenever I try to do the linux install or linux itself it doesn't get anywhere
[05:41] <eric> hello guys
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: looks like it's global
[05:41] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Why doesn't ubuntu like the standard way?
[05:41] <eric> nice to be here in irc
[05:41] <kismet> wow, that was so easy, thanks for the openssh suggestion
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I don't know - I guess you could set it up in ~/.bashrc ( I haven't tried)
[05:42] <botbuilder> Yeah, if i ever get my server running I'm just going to leave it under the desk with a power cable and an ethernet cable ;)
[05:42] <flankk> botbuilder, you edited your grub menu.lst or used the grub terminal?
[05:42] <eric> how can i setup my dsl to run on ubuntu?
[05:42] <botbuilder> grub terminal i believe
[05:42] <botbuilder> I hit e, then e again, added stuff, hit enter, hit b
[05:43] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: It's just wierd that ubuntu's done so much work to do something in their own special way, when we already had EDITOR
[05:43] <botbuilder> i wonder if safe mode would make a difference
[05:43] <aedes> !info cupsaddsmb
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I think you'll find it's a Debian thing actually
[05:43] <flankk> botbuilder, turn of ACPI in your BIOS, if at all possible, and edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and append 'ro noacpi quiet' to your 'kernel' line.
[05:44] <gp_aaron> is the debian gui installer released yet?
[05:44] <botbuilder> holy shite
[05:44] <botbuilder> safe mode did it >:)
[05:44] <botbuilder> flankk - ok i'll do that, thanks
[05:44] <SumoJim> Thanks jrattner1 and ubotu for the reference on expanding my repositories!!! I got it to work and I really appriciate it!!!
[05:45] <Delvien> Anyone know how to install something from a .PL File?
[05:45] <PokerFacePenguin> .pl is a perl extension
[05:45] <botbuilder> Wait, safe mode just gives mne debugging of the prob
[05:45] <botbuilder> Looks like one of the disk drives
[05:45] <Delvien> PokerFacePenguin how do i run it then?
[05:45] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Doubt it.
[05:46] <PokerFacePenguin> chmod +x filename then ./filename while u are in the directory....hope u trust it
[05:46] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Looks like you're correct, just Debian uses vim by default, so I didn't notice it.
[05:46] <Delvien> PokerFacePenguin its VMware.
[05:47] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: And I prefer vim, so when I went onto ubuntu... :)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I noticed when I installed mc it changed from nano to mcedit (no idea why)
[05:47] <me_> do .deb packages execute on ubuntu?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: the priorities are set in the packages evidently
[05:48] <sklav> me_, you must use dpkg
[05:48] <PokerFacePenguin> like i said, it is a perl script....make it executable with chmod +x filename then you can run it (assuming correct permissions etc etc)
[05:48] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: defaults really should be environment variables.
[05:48] <me_> sklav, does alien turn rpm's and deb's into dpkg?
[05:49] <Arafangion> me_: No.
[05:49] <botbuilder> flankk - how can i edit menu.lst when i can't even get to the command line?
[05:49] <sklav> me_, .deb is a bedian / ubuntu package
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: heh - file a bug ;-)
[05:49] <sklav> you need to install it
[05:49] <Arafangion> me_: rpm's and deb's are packages. dpkg is a package *manager*
[05:49] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: :)
[05:49] <sklav> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> zomg firefox 1.5 is out, when is it getting packaged?
[05:50] <Arafangion> me_: I strongly advise you to avoid installing non-ubuntu packages, unless you have absolutely no alternative.
[05:50] <me_> so can I install a .deb file in ubuntu if I use the package manager?
[05:50] <flankk> botbuilder, I didn't notice that you said you couldn't get to the command line.  Explain.  Can you boot successfully, or just not find the terminal button under Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal ;)
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I think you can still do export EDITOR=vim  or whatever ( haven't tried it )
[05:50] <Arafangion> me_: Yes.
[05:51] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Probably.
[05:51] <botbuilder> flannk - i can't boot at all
[05:51] <zuen> tiglionabbit: /topic
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> aw
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> gosh darnit
[05:51] <botbuilder> flankk i mean
[05:51] <me_> arafangion, I'm getting no sound.  I need the driver, it's only available in rpm or tarball.  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php?PHPSESSID=8133c36dd3cabebf1dd20fbef70e78e6
[05:51] <carthik> me_ it might create problems when upgrading to breezy+1 for one....
[05:51] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~ $ export EDITOR=vim
[05:51] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~ $ echo $EDITOR
[05:51] <thoreauputic> vim
[05:52] <zuen> tiglionabbit: get it yourself from mozilla website.
[05:52] <flankk> botbuilder, that's another problem altogether.  You need to state the exact error that stops booting.
[05:52] <ywchong> hi, does anybody here have a success wireless netgear wg311v2 installation guide?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: so you could put that in .bashrc I gues...
[05:52] <botbuilder> hmm
[05:52] <botbuilder> Well in normal mode there is no error
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> zuen: but there's no way to get a deb package for it then--
[05:52] <botbuilder> safe mode is more informative
[05:53] <alekz> where can i find a really complete repositories list ?
[05:53] <ajmitch> afternoon
[05:53] <botbuilder> i mean recovery mode
[05:53] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Yes, but it the /etc/alternatives seems pointless.
[05:53] <botbuilder> hdb: cache flushes not supported
[05:53] <me_> if anyone in here has any suggestions on how I can get the sound driver to work on my ubunto installation I would be greatful.  The link to the site with the driver is here:  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php?PHPSESSID=8133c36dd3cabebf1dd20fbef70e78e6
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: it's used for lots of other things too - but in fact if you type editor as a command you should get whatever you set as alternative
[05:54] <botbuilder> hdb : task_no_data_intr: status = 0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
[05:55] <botbuilder> hdb: task_no_data_int: error = 0x02 {TrackZeroNotFound}
[05:55] <sklav> me_, try the rpm alien will convert it to deb there is a switch on how to do it or get the tar.gz and follow the instruction usually listed in a file called README or INSTALL
[05:55] <botbuilder> ide: failed opcode was: 0xde
[05:56] <sklav> botbuilder, are u using hdparm?
[05:56] <botbuilder> then it says lostinterrupt at 30 second intervals
[05:56] <botbuilder> sklav - I don't think so
[05:56] <sklav> what type of drive?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: what really confused me was that " sudo visudo " gave me nano instead of vi/vim (weird)
[05:56] <botbuilder> depends on which one causes it
[05:56] <botbuilder> One is pretty brandless the other is an old Hp cd writer
[05:57] <sklav> well you said hdb so that is proimary controller slave
[05:57] <botbuilder> the hard drive is a dell 4gb
[05:57] <botbuilder> oh
[05:57] <botbuilder> noidea what the hard drive is
[05:57] <botbuilder> it just 'is'
[05:57] <sklav> ok the error you are gettign is probably related to your hp cd writer
[05:57] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: because you expected vi* to really point to vi*? :)
[05:57] <botbuilder> ok
[05:57] <botbuilder> i'll disconnect
[05:57] <botbuilder> (it)
[05:57] <sklav> i had similar error when 1 of 2 options
[05:57] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: strangely enough, yes ;)
[05:58] <sklav> 1 the cd drive is dieying
[05:58] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: I can't imagine why.. :)
[05:58] <arkais> hi
[05:58] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: totally unreasonable, I know *grin*
[05:58] <sklav> or 2 the cdrom you have in it is corrupted or defective
[05:58] <botbuilder> no cdrom in it
[05:58] <flankk> sklav, er.. highly doubtful.. I have an HP dvd640 with no issues.. and that error is disk drive related.
[05:58] <sklav> he said hdb
[05:58] <derek> Hi
[05:59] <flankk> sklav, so?
[05:59] <sklav> hi hard drive is hda
[05:59] <sklav> hdb is the cdrom
[05:59] <sklav> i had similar error
[05:59] <Arafangion> ajmitch: it's how it got it's name.
[05:59] <sklav> in the past with my cdrom it was flaky
[05:59] <flankk> sklav, omg.
[05:59] <ajmitch> Arafangion: I know ;)
[05:59] <botbuilder> hmm that didn't do it
[05:59] <derek> any way to format a fat32 partition as ext3 while running the live cd?
[05:59] <botbuilder> I think its the generic one
[05:59] <sklav> ?
[05:59] <flankk> botbuilder, 'cat /etc/fstab' and paste me the lines with 'hdb' in them.
[05:59] <me_> ok, I just installed the .deb version of the driver.  Now is the moment of truth.  I hope this gets the sound to work.
[06:00] <Arafangion> ajmitch: Infact, it appears that the current manpage still states that it looks for vi first.
[06:00] <Arafangion> ajmitch: Bug!! :)
[06:00] <flankk> botbuilder, oh yeah.  You can't even boot.
[06:00] <sklav> botbuilder, did you boot with cdrom inserted?
[06:00] <sklav> and then remove it?
[06:00] <botbuilder> flankk - where am i supposed to enter that if i can't bot?
[06:00] <botbuilder> *boot
[06:00] <botbuilder> yeah
[06:00] <botbuilder> sklav - I've already got ubuntu on the hard drive
[06:00] <sklav> ok
[06:00] <ajmitch> Arafangion: see the following sentences..
[06:00] <botbuilder> I plugged the hard drive into my windows computer
[06:00] <botbuilder> and installed with that ^_6
[06:01] <sklav> and then you switched the drive?
[06:01] <flankk> botbuilder, so you have one or two hard drives in this computer?
[06:01] <Arafangion> ajmitch: Yes, makes specific mention to EDITOR or VISUAL, but makes no mention of /etc/alternatives.
[06:01] <botbuilder> well, it thinks i have two
[06:01] <botbuilder> one is a zip drive though
[06:01] <botbuilder> I never use it so I'll unplug it
[06:02] <botbuilder> All disk drives except floppy unpluged now
[06:02] <botbuilder> same prob
[06:02] <botbuilder> wait no
[06:02] <botbuilder> its gotten farther now
[06:02] <flankk> botbuilder, you installed ubuntu to your floppy!?
[06:02] <sklav> hehe
[06:03] <botbuilder> 'error inserting fan'
[06:03] <ajmitch> Arafangion: I've spent a bit long on debian systems for it to bother me :)
[06:03] <insipid> anyone here running the amd64 kernel?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: VISUAL isn't set by default either, it seems
[06:03] <botbuilder> 'error inserting thermal'
[06:03] <botbuilder> both acpi errors
[06:03] <botbuilder>  /dev/hdc1/ doesn't exist
[06:03] <botbuilder> although I appear to be on some command line now
[06:04] <flankk> botbuilder, you're not turning it off properly at boot time then.  First turn it off in your BIOS, then disable it at the grub prompt properly.
[06:04] <insipid> im trying to understand what gentoo and suse do that Ubuntu does not.. they do not have to chroot into a 32 bit environment to use 32 bit applications.. however on ubuntu it is necessary
[06:04] <insipid> im not sure how their kernel packages differ
[06:04] <botbuilder> flankk - oh, probably
[06:04] <botbuilder> i havent been doing the arguments for a while
[06:04] <botbuilder> asthey seemed to make no difference
[06:04] <flankk> botbuilder, if you got a prompt, then login, 'vim /boot/grub/menu.lst' and do what I mentioned earlier..
[06:05] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Indeed.
[06:05] <Kayde> How the heck do i acess my Xorg,conf file?
[06:05] <Kayde> How the heck do i acess my Xorg.conf file?**
[06:05] <Arafangion> Kayde: xorg.conf you mean?
[06:05] <Kayde> :)
[06:05] <poofyhair> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <poofyhair> that command
[06:06] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: so you can set the variables yourself if you wish, but Debian/Ubuntu doesn't seem to do it by default...
[06:06] <Kayde> ive tried it
[06:06] <poofyhair> be carefu
[06:06] <poofyhair> KDE?
[06:06] <poofyhair> Kubuntu?
[06:06] <Kayde> yea
[06:06] <poofyhair> then
[06:06] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Just pointless to spend all that time patching software to a non-standard setup.
[06:06] <poofyhair> sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <poofyhair> have a nice day
[06:06] <Kayde> ty
[06:06] <botbuilder> "ALERT! /dev/hdc1 doesn't exist. dropping to a shell"
[06:06] <derek> Please, is there any way to format a fat32 partition as ext3 while running the live cd?
[06:07] <botbuilder> Busybox
[06:07] <sethk> derek, sure, mke2fs -j
[06:07] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: remeber that update-alternatives applies to many other apps as well ( like x-www-browser IIRC)
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> botbuilder: apparently you've unmounted your root partition, which was on a cd?
[06:07] <flankk> botbuilder, you didn't edit more than I told you to in the /etc/fstab, did you ;P
[06:07] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: So, use environment variables!
[06:07] <botbuilder> lol
[06:07] <botbuilder> i havent edited anything
[06:07] <botbuilder> tiglion - perhaps...
[06:07] <derek> sethk, what's that? and how to reach the fat32 partition here firstly?
[06:08] <botbuilder> dunno how though
[06:08] <sethk> derek, you don't "reach" it.
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> botbuilder: unless you actually have 3 hard drives in there...   hdc is usually the other things
[06:08] <sethk> derek, you just get a shell, and do mke2fs -j /dev/hdXX
[06:08] <sethk> derek, the XX depends on the drive and partition
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: in Debian there are several "sensible-*"  things (like sensible-browser)  - I personally find that terminology rather affronting
[06:08] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Though, X11 stuff probably should use xml resources or something equally complex.
[06:08] <sethk> derek, suppose it is the second partition of the first drive, then it is /dev/hda2
[06:08] <insipid> man is that really such a difficult question... i cant get anything on google
[06:08] <drapelyk> All: this is a noob question, but How do I unzip a .zip file in Ubuntu?
[06:08] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: You do any coding?
[06:08] <botbuilder> tiglionabbit: hmm.  ah it goes hda hdb hdc then
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: hehhe - maybe you should use Slackware ;-)
[06:09] <sethk> derek, assuming IDE drives, of course
[06:09] <Arafangion> drapelyk: 'unzip' is the program that unzips .zip files.
[06:09] <Kayde> command not found
[06:09] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: no, only little bash scripts etc
[06:09] <derek> sethk, yes, IDE
[06:09] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: I quite like slackware, but I really like automatic dependency management.
[06:09] <drapelyk> Arafangion: so... apt-get install unzip ?
[06:09] <derek> sethk, how do I list all the partitions?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> indeed
[06:09] <Arafangion> drapelyk: Should do it.
[06:09] <drapelyk> Arafangion: thanks!
[06:09] <jordan> hi ppl
[06:09] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: My other desktop is a linux-from-scratch-derived system, that I made myself :)
[06:09] <carthik> drapely, install "unzip" and then you an use the archive manager to unzip the .zip by right clicking on it
[06:09] <sethk> derek, for a drive, you do    fdisk -l /dev/hda           for the first,    fdisk -l /dev/hdb    for the second, etc.
[06:10] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: I plan to install KDE 3.5 onto it :)
[06:10] <flankk> Arafangion, Slackware has that too.. you just have a *choice* of pagage management applications..
[06:10] <botbuilder> "Cannot read /etc/fstab no such file or directory"
[06:10] <botbuilder> :(
[06:10] <Arafangion> flankk: Yes, but nothing beats debian in maturity and stability.
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> unless you have a very minimal install, unzip should be on there already.  Just use the "Archive Manager" accessory
[06:10] <botbuilder> I tried to mount boot ;p
[06:10] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: ah, hence your insistence on traditional methods ;)
[06:10] <carthik> drapely, while you are at it, install "rar" for unraring .rar files too :)
[06:10] <Arafangion> flankk: Heck, I *downgraded* sid to stable the other day.
[06:10] <jordan> how do i install java enviorment plugin on linux???????????? plz any1
[06:10] <jimmyhends> whats the command in ubuntu to find out what network ip its using
[06:10] <derek> sethk, what's -l for?
[06:10] <sethk> derek, list
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> jordan,  thers no need for all the ???'s
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> jordan: please don't talk that way.  Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:11] <sethk> jimmyhends, ifconfig
[06:11] <thoreauputic> !javadeb
[06:11] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:11] <flankk> Arafangion, Slackware is more mature and equally as stable as Slackware..  but I've always found slapt-get to be a bastard child. :)
[06:11] <carthik> ubotu tell jordan about java
[06:11] <jordan> ok thx
[06:11] <flankk> Arafangion, Debian is ... Slackware
[06:11] <Arafangion> flankk: I'm sure that slack is just as good as slock.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Tip #1 - check the wiki first befor even asking  anything.  LOL.
[06:11] <derek> sethk, ok
[06:11] <Arafangion> *slack.
[06:11] <flankk> Arafangion, or the other way around.. damn I need a coffee.
[06:11] <Kayde> Poofyhair, command not found
[06:11] <Arafangion> flankk: Heh :)
[06:11] <thoreauputic> no no , slack can't compare to slack !
[06:12] <Arafangion> flankk: Debian and slack both make a fine server, but I just feel that debian rules in terms of keeping a system up-to-date in a very reliable fashion.
[06:12] <flankk> I've just started the worst distro war eva.
[06:12] <afabian> I don't get it.  That is, tacking fancy package management onto Slackware.  That's like.. the point, that it doesn't do that.  Ah well. =)
[06:12] <flankk> Time to construct a mobius strip.
[06:12] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu?
[06:12] <Kayde> please guve script
[06:12] <jimmyhends> sethk: didnt work
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> flankk,  then cut it in half.
[06:12] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu? please tell me
[06:12] <afabian> Kayde, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:12] <sethk> jimmyhends, that doesn't tell me what you did wrong
[06:12] <Kayde> ty
[06:13] <derek> fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:13] <derek> Cannot open /dev/hda
[06:13] <jimmyhends> command not found
[06:13] <flankk> Dr_Willis, lol.  How can they be linked!
[06:13] <sethk> derek, you need to either be root or use sudo
[06:13] <sethk> derek, for any administrative command
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Kayde: or better, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <vbgunz> just curious about dapper drake so I downloaded the nov 30th build on another pc. When trying to install by simply pressing default I quickly am presented with a gray screen, "debconf..., debconf..., pt>" it seems to be stuck on this screen... I cannot enter a command as I am not at the pt> prompt... How do I bypass it?
[06:13] <afabian> Kayde, might want to try something less drastic first, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or some such.  .. I know Debian is touchy about locally modified xorg.confs.
[06:13] <derek> sethk, this is a live cd
[06:13] <sethk> jimmyhends, you can either use sudo, or give the full path
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> flankk,  i rember some tricks with cutting them - that did all sorts of neat things.
[06:13] <torus> I can't mount mount my USB CF reader, though it automounted in the past...
[06:13] <jimmyhends> ive just installed it i dont know
[06:14] <Arafangion> afabian: Debian is not really that touchy about locally modified xorg confs.
[06:14] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, is it possible to boot the ubuntu installation disk from grub ?
[06:14] <sethk> jimmyhends, usually /sbin/ifconfig
[06:14] <afabian> Arafangion, it won't modify them anymore if the MD5 changes, and you have to do some 'hackish' things to convince it to work again.
[06:14] <Arafangion> afabian: Just like any other .conf
[06:14] <sklav> later guys
[06:14] <sklav> im off
[06:15] <botbuilder> cya
[06:15] <flankk> Dr_Willis, I once made a quite large one and split it so many times that it turned into a gigantic linked ball of shredded paper.
[06:15] <derek> sethk, how to display the sizes of the partitions?
[06:16] <sethk> derek, the same way
[06:16] <sethk> derek, it will show the number of blocks.
[06:16] <sethk> derek, each block is 512 bytes
[06:16] <carthik> derek, if you are using Breezy, use the disks tool: System -> administration -> disks
[06:16] <derek> sethk, i see
[06:16] <derek> carthik, no, hoary
[06:16] <__learner__> Ubuntu does not recognize my usb keyboard, its strange because it does not work, but the multimedia keys do.
[06:16] <sethk> derek, or what carthik said works also, of course
[06:16] <__learner__> what do you think about it?
[06:17] <sethk> __learner__, just play CDs?
[06:17] <logical_mark> Hey, what is a good FTP Server that will use a mySQL backend for authentication?
[06:17] <vader> sorry wrong chan
[06:17] <__learner__> change volume
[06:17] <__learner__> open browser
[06:17] <__learner__> those things.
[06:17] <__learner__> very weird.
[06:17] <__learner__> but the commom keys dont work
[06:18] <sethk> __learner__, you might toggle the state of compatibility mode for usb keyboard in the machine's BIOS
[06:18] <__learner__> but it works on windows, and works on grub too.
[06:19] <sethk> __learner__, then what I said is correct
[06:19] <__learner__> I ll check it, tx.
[06:19] <sethk> __learner__, it's a PITA, because you may have to toggle it back to get control in grub
[06:19] <sethk> __learner__, but it frequently works.
[06:20] <sethk> __learner__, now, you can reconfigure the kernel to get around the problem, but that's a bit complicated
[06:20] <brandon> can someone point me to the ubuntu way for configuring artwiz fonts?
[06:20] <pussfeller> logical_mark: i think proftpd can, and maybe pure
[06:20] <__learner__> tx for the help! Ubuntu comunity is very great!
[06:20] <__learner__> just the best!
[06:20] <logical_mark> pussfeller: Yeah I ma looking at pure-ftpd, but I cannot find any documentation on how to set it up using mysql...
[06:20] <__learner__> thanks a lot
[06:21] <logical_mark> pussfeller: ... even though I know it will do that
[06:22] <torus> My USB CF reader wouldn't mount, please help!
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> torus,  unplug/plug it back in and check dmesg output?
[06:26] <torus> Dr_Willis ,It says : Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi4, channel 0, id 0, lun  0
[06:26] <torus>  usb-storage: device scan complete
[06:27] <Asazuke> could someone explain to me how to install python-mode in emacs? i have the file, just dont know where to put it, or what to do as far as configuring emacs
[06:27] <steve__> hi
[06:27] <drumline> Anyone use that ext2fsd package on SF?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> torus,  try a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc'     see if it sees the thing. and if so Mount them somwehere. :P
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> torus,  is this a 7-in-one kind of reader?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Asazuke:  sudo apt-get install python-mode   didn't do it for you?
[06:28] <torus> Dr_Willis, no
[06:29] <Asazuke> thoreauputic: lemme try that, thank you for the response
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Asazuke: always best to try something like apt-cache search <foo> | grep <bar> to see id it's available :)
[06:30] <thoreauputic> s/id/if
[06:31] <Asazuke> thoreauputic: i just didnt even think about installing it through the package manager, it is now working, thank you
[06:32] <thoreauputic> Asazuke: no problem :)
[06:32] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu? please tell me
[06:32] <frogzoo> Kayde: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:32] <thoreauputic> Kayde: we already did, several times
[06:32] <Pablo> locate xorg.conf?
[06:33] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu5.4 yea but its wrong 1
[06:33] <Kayde> yes pablo
[06:33] <frogzoo> Kayde: locate is a command
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Kayde:  what is wrong? the file isn't there or what?
[06:34] <Kayde> these are the thingy ive tried :sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <Kayde> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <Kayde> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <Kayde> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <Kayde> none work...
[06:34] <Kayde> the file isnt there
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Kayde: define "work"
[06:34] <frogzoo> Kayde - are u sure you're running ubuntu :)
[06:34] <Kayde> the file isnt there...it opens but the screen is blank
[06:34] <PokerFacePenguin> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <jknife> i just saw there is a eubuntu lol
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Kayde: what error do you get from  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[06:35] <mrkoje> Kayde: What did you do delete the xorg.conf file? It has to be there...
[06:35] <blanky> what's eubuntu?
[06:35] <Kayde> i didnt delete it
[06:35] <jknife> elightenment for ubuntu... kinnda like kubuntu
[06:35] <Kayde> turopatic...thats auto, wrong 1
[06:35] <frogzoo> Kayde: what do you get for 'ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf'    ?
[06:35] <Kayde> ill try it
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Kayde: what are you talkingabout? that's the standard method for configuring xorg in debian distros
[06:36] <insipid> is debootstrapping changing the linked kernel?
[06:36] <Kayde> it just some crappy vidio card thingy
[06:36] <NoUse> Kayde what?
[06:37] <Kaiser_Away> Kyynara: what does your log say failed?
[06:37] <frogzoo> anyone had any luck configuring Evolution client to connect to Exchange?
[06:37] <Kayde> command not found...for some others are blank
[06:38] <foobar> I just had to reinstall ubuntu because the "automated kernel upgrade" (which I think is complete bullshit) fucked up, has anyone else had problems with the 2.6.12-10 kernel (which apparently automagically installed itself)?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Kayde: which command is not found? Be specific if you want help
[06:38] <mrkoje> Has anyone heard of the 855resolution package?
[06:39] <PokerFacePenguin> foobar, wasnt the old kernel still there?
[06:39] <Kayde> i just want the proper ubuntu 5.4 xorg.conf file so i can add higher resolution
[06:39] <frogzoo> foobar: I upgraded from hoary to breezy, including 2.6.12 (I think) & it just worked
[06:39] <thoreauputic> foobar: no problem at all here
[06:39] <mrkoje> foobar: you should have been able to just rollback to the old kernal if you were having problems
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Kayde: you aren't even listening are you ?
[06:39] <Kayde> I am!
[06:39] <Kayde> none work!
[06:39] <insipid> cmon guys.. nobody seems to know what the **** bootstrapping is but they feel obliged to tell me my conception of bootstrapping is wrong
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Kayde: so answer the question
[06:39] <Kayde> the xorg.conf file is empty
[06:40] <frogzoo> thoreauputic: I think Kayde is listening, just very early steps for him/her
[06:40] <mrkoje> foobar: but I am having no problems... and the kernal doesn't just install it self, it asks you if you want to install it
[06:40] <Kayde> him!
[06:40] <Kayde> ;
[06:40] <Kayde> ;-)
[06:40] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: he/she hasn't answered questions I asked several times
[06:40] <rumplefor> Anybody willing to brush up on a little C? need a little help
[06:40] <frogzoo> rumplefor: see #c
[06:41] <wowoemensd> how do i go about extracting a .bin file in ubuntu?
[06:41] <insipid> okay i guess intelligent questions are not for this channel.. this channel must be a substitute for the man pages only
[06:41] <rumplefor> frogzoo: ty
[06:41] <torus> How do I mount my HDD MP3 player (IAudio X5) ? please help...
[06:41] <NoUse> wowoemensd sh ./file.bin
[06:41] <drapelyk> All: can anyone help me get php working with Apache2?
[06:41] <NoUse> torus google is probably a better place to look for that
[06:41] <mrkoje> drapelyk: Whats going on?
[06:41] <NoUse> !tell drapelyk about php
[06:41] <PokerFacePenguin> drapelyk, php4 and apache2-mpm-prefork
[06:42] <botbuilder> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97438#top
[06:42] <botbuilder> Last post I've got some thumbnails of my prob
[06:43] <wowoemensd> NoUse: when i try to do sh ./file.bin, i get an error that says cannot execute binary file
[06:43] <torus> NoUse, no, I have a general problem with my USB devices
[06:43] <wowoemensd> even after i did a chmod on it
[06:43] <wowoemensd> to make it executable
[06:44] <PokerFacePenguin> wowoemensd, is it executable...like a script?
[06:44] <frogzoo> wowoemensd: 'file xxx' ?
[06:44] <PokerFacePenguin> answered that
[06:44] <wowoemensd> it is a kvcd
[06:44] <drapelyk> All: am I to replace "user" with my username or is it a command itself?      sudo bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql
[06:44] <wowoemensd> i'm trying to extract the mpeg out of it
[06:44] <NoUse> torus what kind of general problem?
[06:45] <torus> NoUse , they wouldn't automount, though dmesg recognizes them...
[06:45] <rebort> is anyone able to help with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[06:45] <frogzoo> drapelyk: u probably want to create a user "mysql"
[06:46] <drapelyk> frogzoo: for the system?
[06:46] <NoUse> torus you're in gnome?
[06:46] <kriiiile> any tip on how i change resulution cant pick 1280 in the system / settings / resulotion
[06:46] <torus> NoUse, yes
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !resolution
[06:46] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:47] <frogzoo> drapelyk: yes, so mysql can run as the 'mysql' user
[06:47] <carthik> torus, can you mount it using $pmount /dev/sda1 (0r sda2) ?
[06:47] <drapelyk> frogzoo, I'm not doubting, but I would like to know why it is good to do that?
[06:47] <drapelyk> frogzoo, so I have to log in as that user to change those settings or?
[06:48] <frogzoo> drapelyk: well the daemon has to execute as someone, but preferably not a user, and certainly not root
[06:48] <feenix> Can someone help me get an ftp server setup?
[06:48] <mt_holden_ss> how to i set my display resolution in ubuntu?
[06:48] <NoUse> torus are you sure it is a mass storage device? some HDD mp3 players don't use that protocol, they use proprietary transfer methods
[06:48] <drapelyk> frogzoo, so you pick a not used username
[06:48] <frogzoo> drapelyk: no, I think the install script will chown all your files to mysql, but maybe the user needs to exist first
[06:48] <frogzoo> drapelyk: u got it
[06:49] <drapelyk> frogzoo, so i'm an idiot... I don't know how to make a new user
[06:49] <torus> NoUse, it is a Mass Storage Devices and it automounted on my friend's Ubuntu...
[06:49] <frogzoo> man useradd
[06:49] <mt_holden_ss> how do i set my display res
[06:49] <NoUse> torus you running breezy?
[06:49] <drapelyk> useradd mysql?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> !tell mt_holden_ss about resolution
[06:49] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: system-> preferences-> screen resolution ?
[06:49] <feenix> Can someone help me get an FTP server setup, preferrably sftp?
[06:50] <NoUse> feenix sftp isn't really FTP by the strict definition, sftp comes with the ssh server
[06:50] <thoreauputic> feenix: sftp is part of the openssh-server package
[06:50] <torus> NoUse, yes
[06:50] <frogzoo> drapelyk: sure
[06:50] <Alister> q
[06:50] <NoUse> torus does an icon appear in "Computer" in gnome?
[06:50] <torus> carthik, pmount doesn't work
[06:51] <feenix> Is that in synaptic?
[06:51] <mosey> (Hello all!)
[06:51] <thoreauputic> feenix: yes
[06:51] <frogzoo> anyway to extend my battery life on a lap top?
[06:51] <feenix> Thanks!
[06:51] <mt_holden_ss> any wireless internet suppot, is it possible?
[06:51] <torus> Nouse, no
[06:51] <torus> NoUse, no
[06:51] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: turn the brightness down ;)
[06:51] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: absolutely - best support's on Breezy - my ipw2200 worked out of the box
[06:51] <NoUse> torus well then I guess you're left to running mount /dev/sda1 /media/mp3 or wherever you want to mount it
[06:52] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[06:52] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:52] <mt_holden_ss> mmm do i have to restart my computer when i apply the wireless settings
[06:52] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, does someone know if it's possible make grub boot the ubuntu cd installation ?
[06:52] <mt_holden_ss> can u tell me where i can get the support with wireless net?
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> anyone know where i'd find the kernel source code for ppc?
[06:53] <frogzoo> AlbertEin_ZaYa: you could just burn the live cd ?
[06:53] <carthik> torus, what did dmesg say, did it say anything ueful at all? the number after p (p1 p3 etc) correspond to the number after sda. So try sudo mount /dev/sd1 /media/usb/ or similar, where, the /media/usb directory should exist already
[06:53] <NoUse> nicholaspaul there is only once kernel source code, it compiles on all the diff architechures
[06:53] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  apt-cache search linux-source
[06:53] <Arafangion> What's a good voice/video chat system for linux?
[06:53] <mike__> hi all
[06:53] <carthik> mt_holden_ss, you dont have to restart the computer for that
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> thx NoUse, thoreauputic
[06:54] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> frogzoo, i cannot access my bios, so i cannot make my pc to boot from cd, but i have grub installed, i want to make grub boot the cd to reinstall ubuntu and fix some problems i'm having
[06:54] <carthik> mt_holden_ss, if your wireless interface is eth1, then sudo ifdown eth1 will disconnect wireless and sudo ifup eth1 will bring it up again
[06:54] <PokerFacePenguin> my usbkey mounts in on /media/usbdisk by default
[06:54] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: there's really only a few reasons to ever restart a Linux computer, and adding wireless isn't one of them
[06:54] <stephans> in ubuntu, where is the authentication utillity (so that I can set up my machines to authenticate to AD)?
[06:55] <carthik> mt_holden_ss, sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces is the file to edit, if you need to change details rearding the wireless conenction
[06:55] <stephans> Like in fedora
[06:55] <NoUse> stephans I'm not sure ubuntu has that utility
[06:55] <stephans> ok
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic - that gives me a bunch of numbers...um.. what am i looking at?
[06:56] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> does anyona have a idea about how to do that?
[06:56] <bimberi> Arafangion: maybe give gaim-vv a try - http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html - good? no idea :)
[06:56] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: what are you wanting to do? compile a kernel or install drivers or what/
[06:56] <bimberi> hi thoreauputic :)
[06:57] <feenix> Ok not to be a bother, but installed the open ssh server and I tried to execute sshd and it says to re-exec with absolute path, but I do a find * | grep "sshd"
[06:57] <thoreauputic> bimberi: hi :)
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic - i'm trying to run make , and instal ural linux drivers for a RT2500 wifi usb stick
[06:57] <feenix> and nothing comes up
[06:57] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: you probably only need headers for that
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> headers?
[06:57] <bimberi> feenix: did you install via apt-get (or synaptic)?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:57] <carthik> feenix, /etc/init.d/ssh restart (or start or stop) will work
[06:58] <frogzoo> feenix: either 'which sshd' or locate sshd
[06:58] <feenix> Synaptic
[06:58] <feenix> Thanks
[06:58] <carthik> feenix, all services will have scripts there....
[06:58] <bimberi> feenix: it should have started by default (but see carthik otherwise)
[06:58] <jonathon> hey guys im having trouble getting my wifi card to work anyone can help?
[06:58] <Kayde> ok guy's, I need to find a way for fixing my laptops screen i know this might be annoying u, but i cant for the life of me figure out how to fix the squiggly lines on my laptop screen...
[06:58] <carthik> feenix, next time, you can try $dpkg -L <package name> -- to see the files that were installed when you installed a <package name> package
[06:59] <frogzoo> Kayde: is this an old laptop? are you sure it's not a driver problem?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: the command  uname -r  will tell you what your kernel is: the command I gave will get the needed kernel headers
[06:59] <carthik> jonathon, ask
[06:59] <Lunz> hi I am having a problem with the time changing everytime I log into Ubuntu can anyone help me?
[06:59] <Arafangion> bimberi: I'm biased against gaim, but perhaps it's improved in the recent years.
[06:59] <Kayde> it worked on knopix 3.8.2
[06:59] <Arafangion> bimberi: I'll look into it, thanks :)
[06:59] <feenix> Thanks. I need to generate keys
[06:59] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, is the wifi card supported?  Have you looked at ndiswrapper?
[06:59] <Kayde> it workes on knopix 3.8.2 and winXP
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> thoeauputic. I think its installing now.
[07:00] <bimberi> Arafangion: np :)
[07:00] <jonathon> yes i have the wifi card properly configured in ndiswrapper and i modprobe and iwconfig finds it
[07:00] <jonathon> still i cant use it...
[07:00] <carthik> Lunz, check if /etc/timezone has the right timezone
[07:00] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, have you given it an ip?
[07:01] <jonathon> no but my router has dhcp
[07:01] <factotum> is samba required to have access to a printer on a winxp machine or just cups?
[07:01] <Lunz> carthik: ok I'll have a look, I better log into Ubuntu. brb
[07:01] <Lunz> thanx
[07:01] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, then sudo dhclient interfacename
[07:01] <Surb-> How do you configure what resolutions X will use?
[07:01] <factotum> ive been scouring google and a few forums about it, but dont really know what i need
[07:02] <jonathon> its doing dhcp discover and not finding anything
[07:02] <Kayde> damit these lines realy tickme off, wat should i look it up as?
[07:02] <PokerFacePenguin> did it stop looking yet?
[07:02] <factotum> alright, im lying, ive been at band practice for the last 3 hours and my ears are ringing but...
[07:02] <carthik> factotum, afaik, winxp does not use the cups(common unix printing system) - so i should think samba is needed
[07:02] <bimberi> factotum: i think you only need smbclient, which is installed by default.  Using it for printing is configured via System -> Administration -> Printing
[07:03] <factotum> alright, I have unix print enabled on the xp box, but not sure after that
[07:03] <feenix> I can't remember how to generate the initial keys for ssh
[07:03] <drapelyk> All: What is the default groupname?
[07:03] <factotum> just the ip, network info and the like
[07:03] <thoreauputic> feenix:  ssh-keygen -t dsa
[07:03] <carthik> Surb-, in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- or you can use the tool $sudo pkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -- keep the refresh rates of the monitor handy
[07:03] <carthik> Surb, that should be dpkg-reconfigure up there
[07:04] <jonathon> pokerfacepenguin yes it found nothing says no DHCPOFFERS recieved
[07:04] <Surb> Okay, thanks.
[07:04] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, if it isnt finding it, try assigning it a static ip and netmask, and dont forget to route add default gw yourgatewayip
[07:04] <rumplefor> any help welcome at http://rumplefor.pastebin.com/445830
[07:04] <Howie> Question: Can someone help me with the installation of Plugger as their home page instructions are confusing to me as a newbie.
[07:04] <carthik> jonathon, does "$sudo iwlist scanning" report any wireless nets around you>?
[07:05] <jonathon> ok i check
[07:05] <jonathon> yes it detects my AP
[07:05] <michelin> hi
[07:05] <michelin> everyone
[07:05] <michelin> i am new to this room
[07:05] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon,  it is an ip problem then most likely
[07:06] <Kayde> ok...wat is a good start on my screen, will i need a new driver? i am TOTALY new to linux..
[07:06] <SCMark> how do I mount something so that it is writeable to my logged in user?  Is there an option for the mount command?
[07:06] <carthik> jonathon, please paste your /etc/network/interfaces files at this site: http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:06] <jonathon> ok
[07:06] <factotum> heh, there is something to be said about completely switching over, never knew i could have fun for an entire evening just customizing my desktop..im such a dork
[07:06] <SCMark> If I mount something using sudo to my /mnt directory it becomes owned by root:root and I can't write to it
[07:07] <Element> i am new,everyone.
[07:07] <carthik> SCMark, try mounting it with pmount without the sudo
[07:07] <Kayde> hi element
[07:07] <Element> hi
[07:08] <jonathon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/JQwt6N60.html
[07:08] <Fujitsu> Element, Hi.
[07:08] <DRAGON_Ultra> hey element
[07:08] <Element> i never use IRC,this is my first time
[07:08] <Kayde> same :)
[07:08] <DRAGON_Ultra> welcome
[07:08] <michelin> I need some help
[07:08] <Element> thx
[07:08] <Fujitsu> Element: Welcome.
[07:09] <Fujitsu> michelin: What?
[07:09] <factotum> what can i do to find out what version a package is at before installing? I want to check out fluxbox
[07:09] <SCMark> Here is the mount command I was using before:  mount -t smbfs "//192.168.1.77/disk 1" /mnt/nslu2/ -o username=marko
[07:09] <michelin> I am using Ubuntu a
[07:09] <factotum> some apt-get command?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> factotum: apt-cache policy fluxbox
[07:09] <carthik> jonathon, as you can see that has no mention of the wireless interface. what is the name of the interface again? eth1? or ra0 or something?
[07:09] <factotum> thank you sir
[07:09] <Element> i just use ubuntu
[07:09] <SCMark> does pmount support smbfs?
[07:09] <sampan> factotum, apt-cache show <package>
[07:09] <jonathon> wlan0
[07:09] <michelin> and i want to know why UBUNTU doesn't support RPM
[07:09] <thoreauputic> factotum: it's at 0.9.12 in breezy IIRC
[07:09] <feenix> I generated my keys and saved them to the same place it was saying it could load them from (/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key) or DSA, I did both. But I'm still getting errors
[07:10] <Element> RPM is for red hat
[07:10] <factotum> wow, last i used it was .1.14 or something like that
[07:10] <Fujitsu> michelin: DIfferent distributions use different package managers, and Ubuntu happens to use the .deb format.
[07:10] <Fujitsu> RPM is Red Hat.
[07:10] <DRAGON_Ultra> and for suse
[07:10] <factotum> was considered stable at the ttime i think
[07:10] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, sending  you my script that sets my ip to 192.168.1.11
[07:10] <thoreauputic> factotum: that's the old "stable" branch
[07:10] <factotum> ah
[07:10] <jonathon> ok great
[07:10] <carthik> michelin, because anything that is an rpm is also a deb
[07:10] <blanky> how can I force to unmount a cd even if it's busy
[07:10] <carthik> michelin, and becuase there is "alien"
[07:10] <blanky> anyone?
[07:10] <Fujitsu> blanky: You can't, really.
[07:10] <jonathon> operation isnt supported
[07:11] <carthik> blanky, pumount -l blah blah
[07:11] <thoreauputic> blanky:  sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[07:11] <DRAGON_Ultra> use a big hammer
[07:11] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, u gotta accept it looks like
[07:11] <Fujitsu> It generally means that there is a terminal/file manager window open in some subdirectory.
[07:11] <michelin> so what about using RPM in UBUNTU
[07:11] <factotum> alright, going to try this out, be back in a bit hehe
[07:11] <michelin> I mean how to use RPM
[07:11] <jonathon> no i accepted it still failed
[07:11] <thoreauputic> michelin: don't
[07:11] <jonathon> im not registered user tho
[07:11] <Kayde> dose anyone know about having squiggly lines at the bottom of the page for ubutu 5.04?
[07:11] <feenix> getting a "could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key" and the next line is dsa
[07:11] <carthik> jonathon, okay wlan0 it is then.... one sec
[07:11] <Element> it can change RPM to DEB
[07:11] <blanky> man i cant eject my cd it keeps saying it's busy even though it's not
[07:11] <PokerFacePenguin> ah....i'll cut and past then....one sec
[07:12] <thoreauputic> !tell michelin about synaptic
[07:12] <frogzoo> blanky u can't you need to kill the process uses the filsystem - eg fuser -k
[07:12] <Maniqui> hi, this is my first time connected to the internet from my fresh ubuntu linux!
[07:12] <Maniqui> :D
[07:12] <thoreauputic> michelin: check your pm from ubotu
[07:12] <Maniqui> first question: how do I install Firefox 1.5?
[07:12] <Madpilot> Maniqui: welcome to the Light Side, then ;)
[07:12] <blanky> fuser -k ?
[07:12] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: It is fairly simply.
[07:12] <Fujitsu> *simple
[07:12] <SCMark> carthik: how do I get pmount to mount a smbfs type network drive?
[07:12] <frogzoo> Maniqui: check the banner
[07:12] <Maniqui> thanks Madpilot!
[07:12] <Element> welcome Maniqui
[07:13] <Fujitsu> frogzoo: It can be done manually easily.
[07:13] <PokerFacePenguin> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.11 netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:13] <Maniqui> "No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper."
[07:13] <PokerFacePenguin> route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[07:13] <Maniqui> what does it means?
[07:13] <frogzoo> Fujitsu: skill depending... :)
[07:13] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, those two lines should do it
[07:13] <Maniqui> thanks to all
[07:13] <Kayde> dose anyone know about having squiggly lines at the bottom of the page for ubutu 5.04? it dosnt go like that when resolution is set at 640x480
[07:13] <PokerFacePenguin> substitute your interface
[07:13] <jonathon> ok
[07:13] <Fujitsu> frogzoo: It is very simple...
[07:14] <Kayde> ...
[07:14] <Maniqui> so, no FF 1.5 for Ubuntu?
[07:14] <carthik> jonathon, also, you can edit your /etc/network/interfaces to add the wlan0 interfaces thusly : http://rafb.net/paste/results/9FgK3Y18.html
[07:14] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: No _package_ yet, but it can be done manually.
[07:14] <frogzoo> Fujitsu: it depends - some folks come to ubuntu from doze, & have never seen a CLI
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Maniqui: not until someone backports it
[07:14] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, and possibly your gateway too...depends on your network
[07:14] <Punzilla> Hi, I was Lunz before... I had a problem with the time in Ubuntu changing from my hardware clock.  I have checked the /etc/timezone and it is Correct... being the australian one.
[07:14] <factotum> okay, thats a first, fluxbox responds slower than gnome as far as launching and opening apps...wierd
[07:14] <carthik> jonathon, after editing the file thus, do a $sudo ifdown wlan0 and then a $sudo ifup wlan0
[07:14] <frogzoo> Maniqui: either figure out how to build/install yourself - or just wait until they build a package
[07:15] <carthik> jonathon, that should work for you...
[07:15] <Maniqui> I dont understand. I have downloaded a .tar.gz for linux that is for FF 1.5
[07:15] <SCMark> So I tried to use smbmount to mount a network drive, but I get the following error: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[07:15] <SCMark> smbmnt failed: 1
[07:15] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Punzilla: if you are dual booting windows, you might have selected UTC time in the installer
[07:15] <carthik> Punzilla, okay - has it screwed up the time again?
[07:15] <Maniqui> aaaah, ok!
[07:15] <Maniqui> I will check that
[07:15] <frogzoo> besides, all the plugins will break on 1.5
[07:15] <Kayde> I am appresiating the help...I know i might be ticking u off but i am a newb and I learn slowly
[07:15] <Punzilla> yeah I think I did... is there a way how to change this... I do have dual booting.
[07:15] <Fujitsu> Kayde: That's fine.
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: thx for helping . i jsut got booted.
[07:16] <thoreauputic> Punzilla: try re-running   sudo base-config and changing the answer to that question
[07:16] <carthik> Punzilla, do a $sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[07:16] <Kayde> wat is a good site for linux drivers>?
[07:16] <factotum> Kayde: dont feel bad, anytime I want to feel like that, i wander into the #freebsd channel
[07:16] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: no worries :)
[07:16] <Fujitsu> Kayde: They are normally built in.
[07:16] <Kayde> ohh so how do i fix?>
[07:16] <kriiiile> if i took swe as language the comand fixes etc wont work ?
[07:16] <Punzilla> carthik, I have tried doing a ntp update from the GUI in the main screen.
[07:16] <Punzilla> that didn't seem to work.
[07:16] <nandemon1i> hi ppl
[07:16] <thoreauputic> carthik: ntpdate won't fix the underlying problem
[07:17] <Fujitsu> Kayde: What is the issue?
[07:17] <Punzilla> I might try it from the command line
[07:17] <Kayde> dose anyone know about having squiggly lines at the bottom of the page for ubutu 5.04? it dosnt go like that when resolution is set at 640x480
[07:17] <carthik> Punzilla, if you use windows and linux on the same computer you will have problems since windows likes to change the time by changing the hardware clock to whatever you timezone time is.. i think... seen this once before
[07:17] <Punzilla> ok thoreaputic.. I might give it a go thanx
[07:17] <Maniqui> mmmmph, this is not like in Windows that I doble click in a .exe, and voil, the program is installed...
[07:17] <thoreauputic> Punzilla:  run   sudo base-config
[07:17] <Fujitsu> Kayde, what type of squiggly lines?
[07:17] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: :) i'm still having trouble tho. Now it says that theres an  Error inserting ural.
[07:17] <Kayde> i have screen shot
[07:17] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:17] <thoreauputic> Punzilla: only change the time answer - leave the rest alone
[07:17] <Maniqui> I think I will hate linux during some time... jeje
[07:17] <Fujitsu> Let me see, Kayde.
[07:18] <Punzilla> kool i'll give it a go
[07:18] <Madpilot> Maniqui: best way to install stuff is thru Synaptic
[07:18] <Maniqui> ok! I have read a little about Synaptic
[07:18] <nandemon1i> For some reason Evolution is suddenly crashing each time I try and run it.. had worked fine.. but it gives me this from term: (evolution:16984): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter.
[07:18] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: sorry I've forgotten what the trouble was ..
[07:18] <carthik> Maniqui, it is easier than in windows - you dont have to go hunting for the files - you dont have to click, you dont have to wonder what else will gte installed and where... all you have to do is type $sudo apt-get install foobar
[07:18] <Madpilot> Maniqui: someone might have sent this to you already, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:18] <nandemon1i> also this: (evolution:16984): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed. Any Ideas?
[07:18] <Maniqui> but Linux isnt for my mom, isnt it?
[07:18] <Kayde> fujitzu, im sending it
[07:19] <kriiiile> if i have swe language the fixvidresolution wont work since i cant find the files ? or im i doing something wery wrong ?
[07:19] <Maniqui> thanks all for helping me (/me very newbie)
[07:19] <carthik> Maniqui, my dad loves it :)
[07:19] <Fujitsu> Kayde, directly to me?
[07:19] <Fujitsu> Because if so, it won't work. I don't have the appropriate ports open.
[07:19] <Maniqui> one question: where do the programs get installed? I want to do the things in the right way from the beginning
[07:19] <carthik> jonathon, did things work out fine?
[07:19] <Kayde> is that how?
[07:19] <Fujitsu> You can use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl to post it, Kayde.
[07:19] <carthik> Maniqui, you dont have to make that decision for the most...
[07:20] <Kayde> ok
[07:20] <carthik> Maniqui, it you install using synaptic or apt-get the programs get installed in the correct locations....
[07:20] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: The wiki gives all the instructions you need... I hope.
[07:20] <Maniqui> ok. I'm asking because the wiki says:  Install it to /opt/firefox:
[07:20] <Fujitsu> If you have issues, I will be able to clarify, I am sure.
[07:20] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: That is fine.
[07:21] <kriiiile> think i will reinstall if anyone else dont have any tips on the language problem .
[07:21] <Maniqui> so, /opt/ is like "program files" in Windows?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> time to go ... later all :)
[07:21] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Sort of. Not system-standard software.
[07:21] <nandemon1i> Maniqui: completly diff.. I wouldnt try and compare it..
[07:21] <carthik> opt == optional Maniqui
[07:21] <TYLER> how do i install ubuntu if i cannot boot from cd rom.. i need a ubuntu boot floppy...
[07:21] <TYLER> pls help
[07:21] <feenix> Ok I still need some help getting this ssh server up... It isn't taking the keys I created
[07:21] <Kayde> did that work?
[07:21] <Fujitsu> TYLER: OK... Wait a sec.
[07:22] <nandemon1i> So no one has had issues with Evolution just dying on breezy?
[07:22] <Kayde> i can hardly figure it out...
[07:22] <jonathon> Damn didnt help at all
[07:22] <Maniqui> cool. thanks all again. I'm trying to make my head on linux... I still need to hear that "click" inside my head
[07:22] <Fujitsu> Kayde: You should have to give me an address or something.
[07:22] <torus> I can't get my HP Deskjet 710C to print , though Ubuntu recognizes it, please help!
[07:22] <nicholaspaul> well, my help has gone... anyone here good with ppc wifi deiver installation?
[07:22] <carthik> Maniqui, things that users install manually go in /opt/ or /usr/local/bin/
[07:22] <Kayde> email?
[07:22] <TYLER> Fujitsu, how can i installubuntu if my pc is noyt cd rom bootable?
[07:22] <Fujitsu> feenix: Are the permissions set properly?
[07:22] <Fujitsu> TYLER: I am working on it.
[07:22] <TYLER> okok...
[07:23] <jonathon> hey cathrik do u know of any resources which explain the folders better? and what is opt? mena
[07:23] <jonathon> mean
[07:23] <nandemon1i> TYLER: check out netboot
[07:23] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, when you do ifconfig does it have an ip?
[07:23] <nandemon1i> jonathon: look for a standard linux / unix filesystem howto / doc
[07:23] <Kayde> fujitzu...it worked??
[07:23] <Element> TYLER:harddisk
[07:23] <TYLER> nandemon1i, i cannot....
[07:23] <jonathon> yes it has an ip
[07:24] <TYLER> my pc is 233 mhz dell shit
[07:24] <jonathon> i just assigned it one
[07:24] <TYLER> only floppy boot
[07:24] <TYLER> i got ubuntu cdrom  but cannot install it
[07:24] <nandemon1i> TYLER: maybe u can get it to install from a harddisk via usb boot drive or some such?
[07:24] <PokerFacePenguin> did you add the route?
[07:24] <feenix> I don't know. It just says it can't read my keys... I've ran it as sudo and I get the same error
[07:24] <jonathon> this is ridiculous it will just be quicker for to reinstall fucking linux with my network cord plugged in
[07:24] <TYLER> arggggghhhh
[07:24] <TYLER> >:
[07:24] <Element> TYLER:ok,it can work on ubuntu
[07:24] <carthik> jonathon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome should explain that, among other things
[07:25] <Element> you can copy ISO to harddisk,then install it from the harddisk
[07:25] <PokerFacePenguin> if you dont have your default gateway set it will never find how to get out....sudo route add default gw yourrouteraddress
[07:25] <jonathon> grrrr why things must be so difficult
[07:25] <TYLER> Element, oh really... i did....
[07:25] <Fujitsu> TYLER: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[07:25] <TYLER> but how do i boot it...
[07:25] <jonathon> done and done penguin
[07:25] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, took you long enough.
[07:26] <Element> but it need three files
[07:26] <TYLER> restart pc.. will be in windows already
[07:26] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, should be an entry that says default when you issue a route command
[07:26] <Fujitsu> TYLER, that will let you boot from a CD.
[07:26] <jonathon> im beginning to think its a firewall problem of some description
[07:26] <carthik> jonathon, i know it can be frustrating at first, but things WILL work, now if you know that - you will get to the end of it -- a humble suggestion, please try to see and understand what's going on, so you can troubleshoot better :)
[07:26] <feenix> I don't know. It just says it can't read my keys... I've ran it as sudo and I get the same error
[07:26] <TYLER> Fujitsu, what u mean?
[07:26] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta: I couldn't quite remember it...
[07:26] <TYLER> start in win98se.. den..???
[07:26] <Fujitsu> TYLER: That site will let you create a boot disk to boot the CD-ROM.
[07:26] <Kayde> Fujitsu-did it work?
[07:26] <TYLER> Fujitsu, whats the addie?
[07:27] <feenix> Fujitsu: I don't know. It just says it can't read my keys... I've ran it as sudo and I get the same error
[07:27] <Fujitsu> http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm, TYLER.
[07:27] <YukiIkyuta> TYLER,  http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[07:27] <carthik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome : Maniqui you may find that interesting as an intro to ubuntu :)
[07:27] <jonathon> how can i configure my firewall and see what ports are activated/denied
[07:27] <Fujitsu> feenix: What are the permissions on the keys?
[07:27] <jonathon> actually bugger it im reinstalling
[07:27] <torus> I can't get my HP Deskjet 710C to print , though Ubuntu recognizes it, please help!
[07:27] <WS> on 5.10 have any of you had problems with video speed being too fast?
[07:27] <Fujitsu> Kayde: Found it, wait a sec.
[07:27] <WS> video and flash I believe
[07:28] <Fujitsu> Kayde, is it on all programs, or just the desktop?
[07:28] <Kayde> k
[07:28] <Kayde> yesd
[07:28] <Kayde> it is
[07:28] <carthik> later folks.
[07:28] <Fujitsu> All programs?
[07:28] <PokerFacePenguin> some people just arent cut out for troubleshooting :P
[07:28] <feenix> Fujitsu: -rw-r--r--
[07:28] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta, look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i5289
[07:28] <Kayde> yea it is fujitzu
[07:28] <Fujitsu> feenix: That is the issue.
[07:28] <PokerFacePenguin> i'd bet ten bucks he didnt have a default route
[07:28] <Fujitsu> feenix: They must be -rw-r--r--
[07:28] <Fujitsu> Oop.s
[07:28] <Fujitsu> -rw-------
[07:29] <Fujitsu> Without that extra -
[07:29] <Kayde> its isnt like that with lower resolution-its like dat on all programs
[07:29] <feenix> Fujitsu thats what they are...
[07:29] <Fujitsu> OK, again, read-write for user only.
[07:29] <Fujitsu> Not for group or world.
[07:29] <feenix> Oooo
[07:29] <feenix> ok
[07:29] <Fujitsu> KaydeL Very odd that a screenshot should capture that!
[07:29] <Fujitsu> What video card, Kayde?
[07:30] <TYLER> Fujitsu, help me..
[07:30] <Kayde> i dont know,
[07:30] <Fujitsu> TYLER, what?
[07:30] <Kayde> how do i find out?
[07:30] <YukiIkyuta> TYLER, ?
[07:30] <TYLER> YukiIkyuta, i need a ubuntu boot disk..
[07:30] <TYLER> where to get it
[07:30] <Fujitsu> Kayde: System->ADminstration->Device Manager, I believe.
[07:30] <TYLER> ?
[07:30] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, nice capture.
[07:30] <YukiIkyuta> TYLER, did you see the previous message?
[07:30] <Fujitsu> TYLER: The CD-ROM is bootable
[07:30] <Kayde> k
[07:30] <YukiIkyuta> TYLER, create this disk: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[07:30] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta: That is by Kayde...
[07:31] <TYLER> Fujitsu, my cd rom is NOT bootable!!!!!
[07:31] <YukiIkyuta> TYLER, it doesn't matter!
[07:31] <Fujitsu> TYLER: Yes it is, just your BIOS doesn't like it...
[07:31] <YukiIkyuta> TYLER, the boot disk here (http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm) will allow you to boot from it anyway.
[07:31] <kriiiile> is yast possible to install on ubuntu?
[07:31] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, impressive.
[07:31] <YukiIkyuta> Kayde, it wouldn't be an nVidia graphics card, would it?
[07:31] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta: Surprising that a screen capture would get that, when it affects everything!
[07:31] <Maniqui> something has gone wrong
[07:31] <cyphase> what's the syntax to indicate the local network?
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Kayde is checking.
[07:31] <Kayde> which 1 is it? i dont know
[07:31] <Maniqui> now i cannot start Firefox
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Maniqui, what?
[07:32] <cyphase> 172.16.1.0/24 or something
[07:32] <Kayde> how do i find wich 1 it is?
[07:32] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: I know what is wrong.
[07:32] <YukiIkyuta> cyphase, that is one possible local network.
[07:32] <cyphase> i know
[07:32] <YukiIkyuta> Depends on your setup.
[07:32] <cyphase> but it;s mine :)
[07:32] <cyphase> lol
[07:32] <Maniqui> when I clic in the icon, it appears a new window in the bar and it says "Starting Firefox" and then close
[07:32] <Fujitsu> Maniqui, in synaptic, install libstdc++5.
[07:32] <YukiIkyuta> Wellark, that is syntacitcally correct, yes.
[07:32] <Kayde> how do i find wich 1 it is?
[07:32] <YukiIkyuta> syntatically*
[07:32] <Maniqui> ok, thanks Fujitsu!
[07:32] <cyphase> ok
[07:33] <cyphase> thanx
[07:33] <Fujitsu> Maniqui, I will add the further instruction to the wiki... But you just need to install that...
[07:33] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, show me some of your work?
[07:33] <Fujitsu> ?
[07:33] <Kayde> How do i know which one the vidio card is
[07:33] <Fujitsu> Kayde: It should say Radeon, or GeForce, nVidia, or ATI...
[07:34] <Fujitsu> Those are the ost common.
[07:34] <Lunz> hi... I tried doing the adjust base config line.. all it asked me was whether my hardware clock was correct... and I put yes.  This didn't change the time...
[07:34] <Fujitsu> Kayde: Are you on a notebook or desktop?
[07:34] <Kayde> laptop...
[07:34] <Lunz> although, when updating the ntp, that worked... so it should be ok, thanks both for your help.
[07:34] <Fujitsu> Kayde: OK.
[07:34] <Fujitsu> Could be an Intel, then...
[07:34] <Kayde> i thinks its cyber 9525
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Look for something about AGP, then look at the child of that node. That should be the card.
[07:35] <Kayde> it has something called cyber 9525..that it??
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Kayde: Yes.
[07:35] <Kayde> ok
[07:35] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, ie. Wiki entries.
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Now... I know nothing about that card. Anybody else got any experience with it + Ubuntu?
[07:36] <Maniqui> Fujitsu, I see that there are versions? higher than libstdc++5.
[07:36] <Fujitsu> You need libstdc++5.
[07:36] <Maniqui> like libstdc++6.
[07:37] <Maniqui> ok!
[07:38] <RancidLM> hey all.. is there a way to compile my kernel with the exact same settings as the pre-compiled one here.. ? with the exception that i compile it to suport 1gb of ram?
[07:38] <Maniqui> it ask me also to install gcc-3.3-base
[07:38] <Maniqui> do I push the button without fear?
[07:38] <Fujitsu> Manqui: Do it...
[07:38] <Kayde> damit :-( so noone can help me?
[07:38] <Maniqui> i did it
[07:39] <Maniqui> I still think that linux is not for my mom... :)
[07:39] <Maniqui> but time will tell me...
[07:39] <Fujitsu> Maniqui, does it work?
[07:39] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, I must be off ..
[07:40] <Maniqui> Firefox could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration
[07:40] <Maniqui> Please, contact the author... bla
[07:40] <Fujitsu> Maniqui, that's fine. You should get two or three.
[07:40] <SCMark> anyone know how to mount a smbfs with write permissions?
[07:40] <Fujitsu> SCMark: Yes.
[07:40] <Lunz> Is there a way to make Ubunti automatically recognise my Windows Partition on Bootup?
[07:40] <Kayde> fujitsu, Toshiba Satellite 4090XCDT using Trident Microsystems Cyber 9525    that is all information
[07:40] <Fujitsu> SCMark, it will do it if you have permissions properly
[07:40] <Fujitsu> LunzL Yes.
[07:40] <Fujitsu> Lunz: Is it NTFS?
[07:40] <Lunz> yep
[07:41] <SCMark> Fujitsu: what will do it?
[07:41] <Fujitsu> SCMark: You need permissions on the Windows box to write.
[07:41] <PokerFacePenguin> Lunz, /etc/fstab
[07:41] <pbransford> OK, im installing lightthpd, and I want to use SSL so I (not necesarily others) can securely connect with it.
[07:41] <Fujitsu> Lunz: Have you got it mounting successfully now?
[07:41] <Maniqui> thanks Fujistu! it is now working!
[07:41] <pbransford> im sure i can set the server up
[07:41] <Lunz> ummm
[07:41] <Maniqui> all this was "magic" for me
[07:41] <pbransford> but i have no idea how to work openssl
[07:41] <Maniqui> linux is obscure!
[07:41] <pbransford> can anyone help me out with that?
[07:41] <Lunz> well I have to run the "disks" section before I mount it properly
[07:41] <SCMark> I've tried all sorts of options with the mount command and it always tells me that I don't have permission
[07:41] <mrkoje> SCMark: You know how to mount the windows share?
[07:41] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: You wil learn how to use it.
[07:41] <cdubya> LunzL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:41] <Fujitsu> Lunz: OK.
[07:42] <SCMark> been using the following: sudo mount -t smbfs "//192.168.1.77/disk 1" \/mnt/nslu2/ -o username=marko
[07:42] <Lunz> thanx
[07:42] <SCMark> at the prompt for the password I enter in the correct password and I still don't have permission
[07:43] <Maniqui> thanks Fujitsu. I have no doubt I will...
[07:43] <Lunz> bye bye
[07:43] <SCMark> I tried adding the -o uid=1000 and the -o gid=1000 options and that doesn't help
[07:43] <Fujitsu> SCMark, don't have the backslash befor /mnt/nslu2
[07:43] <RancidLM> can any one here help me with compiling a kernel?
[07:43] <Fujitsu> RancidLM: Sure!
[07:43] <Maniqui> finally, last question: best resourse to learn how to use terminal for very very newbies? or should I start learning linux from another lesson?
[07:44] <mrkoje> SCMark:   try   ~# sudo mount -t cifs -o password=****** //192.168.1.77/sharefile /media/createfiletomountto
[07:44] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Good question.
[07:44] <redhook> SCMark: you using xorg?
[07:44] <bimberi> ubotu tell Maniqui about cli
[07:44] <mrkoje> SCMark: modprobe cifs
[07:44] <Fujitsu> !tell Maniqui about cli
[07:44] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[07:44] <SCMark> sudo modprobe cifs outputs nothing
[07:45] <redhook> Maniqui: google the bash manual
[07:45] <Fujitsu> -t smbfs, don't you mean!
[07:45] <Maniqui> what? what are you going to do to me? oh no!
[07:45] <redhook> Fujitsu: cifs works
[07:45] <mrkoje> Fujitsu: cifs works for me!
[07:45] <Maniqui> cli?
[07:45] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[07:45] <Fujitsu> Command Line Interface.
[07:45] <redhook> i.e. a bash shell
[07:46] <bimberi> Maniqui: you should have received a /msg from ubotu with a couple of links
[07:46] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: im running the pre-built 2.6.12-10-686-smp kernel.. but id like to re-compile it to allow high memory 1gb+  (right now its compiled for 800mb)  so is there a way to keep the kernel kernel settings but just modify the ram part?
[07:46] <mrkoje> SCMark: You have installed smbfs package right?
[07:47] <SCMark> mrkoje: yes
[07:47] <Maniqui> yep! thanks! I'm reading! thank you all very much. This is my "first" day at linux. Well, I have installed Ubuntu 4.x few months ago, but I have a wi-fi card with RT2500... so I couldnt connect
[07:47] <Kayde> what is the "console"?
[07:47] <Fujitsu> RancidLM: Install the i686 kernel, to replace the i386.
[07:47] <Fujitsu> Kayde: The terminal.
[07:47] <SCMark> I can mount and get files off the drive, I just can't write to it
[07:47] <dli_> RancidLM, the config is in /proc/config.gz or /boot/config* files
[07:47] <Fujitsu> uboto tell Kayde about cli
[07:47] <Maniqui> Now, I'm in Ubuntu 5.1 and online, so it will be easy to learn
[07:48] <Kayde> how do i get to it?
[07:48] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Command line is the way to go, definitely...
[07:48] <RancidLM> Fujitsu:  it is the i686
[07:48] <RancidLM> 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[07:48] <Fujitsu> Kayde, Application->Accessories->Terminal.
[07:48] <Maniqui> ubotu... is a robot?!
[07:48] <Madpilot> Maniqui: yes
[07:48] <Fujitsu> RancidLM: It should work.
[07:48] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Yes.
[07:48] <Madpilot> !tell Maniqui about ubotu
[07:48] <mrkoje> SCMark: Thats not a linux problem, that sounds like a you haven't enabled "Users can change files" in windows problem
[07:48] <Kayde> Terminal isnt in accesorys
[07:49] <Kaiser_Away> Kayde: try system tools
[07:49] <Kayde> Application->Accessories->Terminal--its not under accesorys
[07:49] <Madpilot> Kayde: which version of Ubuntu are you running
[07:49] <Madpilot> ?
[07:49] <mrkoje> SCMark: Try right clicking the share on the windows box and check the box that says "Enable users to change my files"
[07:49] <Kayde> 5.04
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> Once I've installed a font for the system in fonts:///, do I need to do something extra to enable them for Firefox?
[07:49] <Fujitsu> Right click on the desktop, launch console, Kayde.
[07:49] <Kaiser_Away> Kayde: applications -> system tools
[07:49] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: dmesg | less only shows 800
[07:50] <Fujitsu> RancidLM: Very odd.
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Also, what is the real path of the fonts:/// location anyway?
[07:50] <SCMark> mrkoje: I know that's not the problem.  I configured samba on my nslu2 to be able to write to it.  If I boot into windows it works
[07:50] <Kayde> ty
[07:50] <Kaiser_Away> np
[07:50] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: the fonts:/// thing is automagical - it just works ;)
[07:50] <SCMark> mrkoje: It is samba running on an nslu2, not on a windows machine
[07:50] <cool_guy> hello ppl
[07:50] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: not really.. my lug showed that this just means that it wasn't compiled for 1gb+
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Nice thought, but it's not right now.
[07:50] <cool_guy> do ne of u know lilo well over here?
[07:50] <Fujitsu> Hello cool_guy.
[07:51] <Fujitsu> I know LILO fairly well.
[07:51] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: the only thing is iv never compiled a kernel.. just watched some one doo it briefly at my lug
[07:51] <Maniqui> i'm really scared... command lines... robots... this is retro.future...
[07:51] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Heh
[07:51] <Maniqui> Fujitsu, what do you mean with "Command line is the way to go, definitely..."?
[07:51] <Kaiser_Away> lol Maniqui
[07:51] <frogzoo> cool_guy: moved on from lilo - the pain, the pain
[07:51] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Command line is much more powerful than GUI. I much prefer CLI.
[07:51] <Maniqui> all is done by command line?
[07:51] <Kaiser_Away> lol
[07:51] <Maniqui> no more clic?
[07:51] <cdubya> SCMark, just curious, but did you try to connect to it via the Connect to Server client....
[07:51] <mrkoje> SCMark: you don't need to use samba then.. you should be able to use nfs
[07:52] <Maniqui> Hey, I'm from the days of MS-DOS, I'm not afraid of not clicking anymore
[07:52] <Fujitsu> Maniqui: Good old DOS...
[07:52] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: sightly more seriously, I don't actually know, and I don't use it myself - I just put fonts in /.fonts
[07:52] <Kayde> how do i do this? i use gedit Open console
[07:52] <Kayde> Type: cd /boot/grub
[07:52] <Kayde> Use your favorite text editor to load menu.lst
[07:52] <Kayde> Look for following entry (this is default entry for up-to-date Hoary):kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[07:52] <Kayde> Add vga=791 at the end of this line
[07:52] <Kayde> Save it ??
[07:52] <Maniqui> but I used DOS to type: monkey.exe, and then I were playing with Guybrush
[07:52] <Maniqui> I cannot understand the fun of using cli
[07:52] <nmsa> is there a way to upgrade Hoary  mysql to 4.10; my current mysql is 4.0.23
[07:52] <frogzoo> Kayde: grub-install /dev/hda or whatever
[07:52] <Kaiser_Away> Kayde: don't flood
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Additionally, some show up when viewing fonts:/// as root that I can't see as others.  Do you know why?
[07:53] <SCMark> mrkoje: It works if I go to the address smb://marko@nslu/disk 1
[07:53] <Madpilot> Maniqui: you can do a lot of Ubuntu's admin with the GUI tools - sometimes the command line is just faster
[07:53] <Kaiser_Away> Maniqui: 'fun' isnt usualy part of UNIX administration :)
[07:53] <Fujitsu> SCMark: Are the permissions set on the mounting directory correctly?
[07:53] <Kaiser_Away> (or cheap rippofs admin)
[07:53] <SCMark> mrkoje: but when I do this the directory is not mounted locally
[07:53] <Maniqui> aj. but are you chatting right now from the cli?
[07:53] <Maniqui> i'm using GAIM
[07:53] <cdubya> SCMark, that's why I was asking if you'd tried the connect to server...figgered it might work using smbclient....
[07:54] <Kaiser_Away> Maniqui: same
[07:54] <cool_guy> i got the new distro of ubuntu 5.10
[07:54] <cool_guy> n i installed it on the sys along with win xp
[07:54] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, OK.
[07:54] <cool_guy> now i installed lilo on the ubuntu installed drive
[07:54] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, why?
[07:54] <cool_guy> n now i can boot only linux n not windows
[07:54] <Kaiser_Away> Maniqui: for example to change permissions recursively you have to use a cli, Gnome wont do it (that i have seen)
[07:54] <cool_guy> wat can i do?
[07:54] <deFrysk> cool_guy, why lilo ?
[07:54] <Maniqui> sorry if I ask dumb questions, but I think that the cli has a limit. Or dou you browse and cook from the cli?
[07:54] <cool_guy> linux directly gets booted when i start the system
[07:55] <mrkoje> SCMark: I see, but even connecting with SMB, you still don't have write access.
[07:55] <SCMark> Fujistu: yeah I checked the permissions of the mounting directory.  When mounting the device with the -o uid=1000 then my current user is granted ownership of the directory
[07:55] <cool_guy> man i didnt know:)
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I have them in .fonts too.
[07:55] <Maniqui> you mean to change permission for various files?
[07:55] <cool_guy> i didnt want the grub to load the os
[07:55] <Kaiser_Away> Maniqui: of course cli has a limit, it's horses for courses
[07:55] <Kaiser_Away> Maniqui: yeh
[07:55] <deFrysk> cool_guy, why not ?
[07:55] <Maniqui> (sorry for my english, i speak spanish natively)
[07:55] <cool_guy> instead i wanted to put lilo on the linux drive n boot linux from windows options
[07:55] <Fujitsu> cool_guy: Run 'sudo grub-install (hd0)' to install GRUB.
[07:55] <sampan> maniqui, both GUI and CLI have limits -- but each has advantages.  and yes, some of us -are- chatting from cli :)
[07:55] <Kaiser_Away> that's ok mate. :)
[07:55] <cool_guy> so where do i install grub?
[07:56] <SCMark> mrkoje: I only get write access when I type manually smb://nslu/DISK%201 into the location of a nautilus window
[07:56] <Fujitsu> maniqui: Recursively means it goes down the directories, changing all files in its path.
[07:56] <vbgunz> hello everyone... anyone know how to get around a fakeroot problem? I am installing a package from Debian and was given a command with -rfakeroot... *but* I have no idea what that is? The error is "command not found"... help?
[07:56] <Maniqui> thanks all, time to sleep. 4am in buenos aires. It was nice to learn from all you.
[07:56] <deFrysk> cool_guy, read Fujitsu 's message
[07:56] <Fujitsu> cool_guy: See my message a minute ago...
[07:56] <jax0m> &
[07:56] <SCMark> mrkoje: control+L
[07:56] <Kaiser_Away> good luck Maniqui. have fun
[07:56] <frogzoo> cool_guy: grub-install /dev/hdx
[07:56] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: if they're in .fonts, they should work - which app isn't working?
[07:56] <Maniqui> i will be here soon again
[07:56] <Fujitsu> Maniqui, have fun
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Firefox.
[07:56] <Kaiser_Away> :)
[07:56] <Kayde> I AM GETING FRIKING PISSED OFF!! I H8 linux
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Firefox.
[07:56] <cool_guy> k
[07:56] <SCMark> mrkoje: but getting mount to mount it with correct write access has yet to work
[07:57] <Maniqui> thanks Fujitsu, for help me installing FF 1.5
[07:57] <cool_guy> thanx mate:)
[07:57] <Fujitsu> Kayde, I am sure this problem can be fixed at some point.
[07:57] <frogzoo> Kayde: people have tried to help you - please mind your manners
[07:57] <mrkoje> SCMark: Did you try mounting it with cifs?
[07:58] <SCMark> mrkoje: yeah.  When I did that then I didn't have permission to go into directories that were not owned by the user I was logging in as.  It was as if I logged in as a guest
[07:58] <SCMark> mrkoje: even though I specified the correct username and password
[07:59] <pramz> anyone else use gtkwifi ?
[07:59] <pramz> i <3 gtkwifi :)
[07:59] <derek_> Hi
[07:59] <pramz> HI
[07:59] <Fujitsu> Hi derek_
[07:59] <derek_> anyone running xp with dualboot?
[07:59] <SCMark> mrkoje: I used: sudo mount -t cifs -o password="mypassword" "//192.168.1.77/disk 1" /mnt/nslu2/ -o username=marko -o uid=1000 -o gid=1000
[07:59] <derek_> hey Fujitsu
[07:59] <Fujitsu> derek_ previously, yes,
[07:59] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I don't run FF myself - check it's font configs over, I guess
[07:59] <beauty_G> hiiiiiiiiii
[07:59] <cdubya> derek_, yep
[08:00] <Fujitsu> What is the issue, derek_?
[08:00] <frogzoo> derek_: only about 1/2 the people here - still need to run Doom somehow :D
[08:00] <derek_> For some reason, winxp is recognising the ext3 partitions and showing it all as D:\
[08:00] <derek_> but its going crazy as it can't understand it
[08:00] <cool_guy> guys doesnt the grub change the mbr
[08:00] <derek_> but I don't know why it even recognised the non windows partition
[08:00] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, yes.
[08:00] <Fujitsu> derek_: Odd.
[08:00] <jnymo> whats better for a hosted server? freebsd or debian?
[08:00] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu boots fine?
[08:01] <derek_> cool_guy: i had a problem during installation with grub.. it couldn't write to mbr
[08:01] <Kaiser_Away> jnymo: depends what you want it to do
[08:01] <cool_guy> what happens if i uninstall lilo?
[08:01] <frogzoo> derek_: definately wierd - not typical
[08:01] <cool_guy> will i get back the windows option?
[08:01] <Kaiser_Away> jnymo: i have had hosting on both
[08:01] <derek_> Fujitsu: i haven't installed ubuntu yet. (i'm at the stage of windows at the moment)
[08:01] <derek_> cool_guy: yes
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: You wouldn't happen to know the file path for that, would you?  (I'm guessing not, but it's worth a shot.)
[08:01] <frogzoo> cool_guy: no need to uninstall - grub will just overwrite the mbr
[08:01] <Fujitsu> derek_: that would do it.
[08:01] <jnymo> Kaiser_Away: a webpage or two.. plus some java
[08:01] <derek_> frogzoo: yeah :(
[08:01] <derek_> wtf
[08:01] <Fujitsu> derek_: It hasn't been properly formatted yet. Install Ubuntu and it should go away...
[08:02] <mrkoje> SCMark: I'm sorry, I'm kinda at a loss with this one
[08:02] <derek_> everything is so damn slow now on windows as it tries to read the linux partition all the time
[08:02] <Kaiser_Away> jnymo: in that case it wouldnt matter. i'd go with the Debian server myself (because i understand it better)
[08:02] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: doesn't FF dump all it's configs into about:config or something like that?
[08:02] <Fujitsu> derek_: When it is properly formatted, it should not be seen by Windows.
[08:02] <Fujitsu> about:config, yes.
[08:02] <SCMark> mrkoje: thanks for the help though.  I'll look into cifs a bit more
[08:03] <Fujitsu> SCMark: I am sure it will work...
[08:03] <frogzoo> derek_: who partitioned the disk - let me guess, xp ?
[08:03] <mrkoje> SCMark: This is going to  bug me now, I might have to recreate the problem on my redhat machine with smb... see if I can get it to work...
[08:03] <derek_> Fujitsu: well i did that earlier.. ubuntu installation didn't work as it froze at grub installation stage.. (firstly it wouldn't write to mbr for some reason,  then when i  chose to install it on a floppy, it froze to death.. leaving me no option than to hit "reset")
[08:03] <qt2> err, does anyone here use qtorrent?
[08:03] <derek_> frogzoo: no, ubuntu installationdisk
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Maybe.
[08:03] <viviersf> erm does any1 know why my user doesnt read bash settings from within X, but it does via console ?
[08:03] <mrkoje> SCMark: Maybe go over your smb config too
[08:04] <Fujitsu> derek_: Odd. Try to delete and recreate the partition.
[08:04] <derek_> Fujitsu: in windows?
[08:04] <frogzoo> derek_: what's the drive? IDE? LBA enabled in bios ?
[08:04] <jnymo> Kaiser_Away: thats why I initially went with debian.. but someone else suggested freebsd.. And I'm wondering how I should weigh the two
[08:04] <Fujitsu> derek_: it sounds like tha MBR has gone dodgy at some point...
[08:04] <dli_> viviersf, in ~/.bashrc ?
[08:04] <derek_> frogzoo: IDE
[08:05] <viviersf> dli_, yes, :(
[08:05] <Kaiser_Away> jnymo: if you want your rfcs implemented before the ink is dry use freebsd
[08:05] <derek_> frogzoo: I don't know about "LBA enabled in bios ?"
[08:05] <frogzoo> derek_: one & only disk? & jumpered as master ?
[08:05] <Kaiser_Away> if you want 10 year release cyle use Debian, but this is -offtopic
[08:05] <viviersf> dli_, it doesnt even read the settings /etc :/
[08:05] <dli_> viviersf, do you have .bash_profile ?
[08:05] <derek_> frogzoo: one disk plugged. dunno about jumper setting
[08:05] <viviersf> dli_, yep
[08:05] <viviersf> dli_, i doesnt want to read those files
[08:06] <frogzoo> derek_: you need to go into the disk detect in the bios & enable LBA - & you need to check it'sjumpered as master or there will "trouble"
[08:06] <frogzoo> derek_: you got a CDRom on the same channel?
[08:06] <jnymo> Kaiser_Away: what do you mean by that?
[08:06] <dli_> viviersf, maybe, it's not running bash
[08:06] <derek_> frogzoo: just looked. the jumper is on the 2nd pin from the side of the ide plug
[08:06] <bimberi> RancidLM: still there?
[08:06] <Kaiser_Away> jnymo: we should talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:06] <qt2> uhm, the version of qtorrent in synaptic seems to be missing a bunch of features....
[08:06] <derek_> frogzoo: no not on the same channel, cd rom drive is on  the other cable
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Yes, it does.  But I don't know how to edit things like that.
[08:07] <vbgunz> Do I need "SUDO" for dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:07] <frogzoo> derek_: usually the drive has markings showing which pin is master & which slave
[08:08] <derek_> frogzoo: yeah.. i can't look at it right now.. its hidden inside.. i could take a look at the rear side though (using a torch) :)
[08:08] <mcadory> derek_: look up on manufacturer's website.  probably got documentation there.
[08:08] <derek_> frogzoo: for what I know, the jumper is set on auto-detect
[08:08] <frogzoo> derek_: the default setting is usually master, so that should be ok - just make sure the bios can detect the drive ok
[08:08] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: neither do I - sorry - I use Opera full time, and FF only to check websites
[08:08] <RancidLM> bimberi: yip
[08:08] <vbgunz> Do I need "SUDO" for dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:09] <derek_> frogzoo: bios has already detected it, hasn't it? that's why I'm here
[08:09] <RancidLM> bimberi: yup
[08:09] <Fujitsu> vbgunz: Probably not...
[08:09] <derek_> i'm mean,  that's why I could install windows and reach here
[08:09] <bimberi> RancidLM: do you actually see "Warning only 896MB will be used." in dmesg | less ?
[08:09] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: thanks
[08:09] <Fujitsu> derek_, true.
[08:09] <derek_> k
[08:09] <frogzoo> derek_: uh oh - bad plan - Linux is much fusser about obeying the IDE spec that doze is - I'd really recommend taking another look at the jumpers
[08:09] <vbgunz> Anyone know what -rfakeroot is?
[08:09] <derek_> now why the heck is windows trying die-hard to readthe ext3 :((
[08:10] <derek_> frogzoo: i see
[08:10] <hyphenated> vbgunz: -r is to specify the command to use to get root permissions when using dpkg-buildpackage
[08:10] <Fujitsu> derek_, chances are the installer did something odd along the line, and Windows is being too curious.
[08:10] <hyphenated> vbgunz: now I'll let you go right ahead and guess what 'fakeroot' is and does :-)
[08:10] <RancidLM> bimberi: i just tried to dmsg again but its not there no more.. but yes.. i think that is the error
[08:10] <RancidLM> bimberi: would i have to reboot to find out?
[08:10] <derek_> Fujitsu: yea.. wonder what's going on
[08:10] <vbgunz> so instead of using -rfakeroot for a Debian package, I instead use sudo/
[08:11] <hyphenated> vbgunz: nope, you use -rfakeroot
[08:11] <hyphenated> vbgunz: the end result will be a .deb file
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: All right.  Thanks though.
[08:11] <rixth> 192.168.*.* address should be rpivate only, right?
[08:11] <hyphenated> vbgunz: you will be able to use dpkg -i blahblah.deb after it's all built
[08:11] <qt2> wtf is with all the + and - ? o.O;
[08:11] <vbgunz> hyphenated: oh... funny, I get returned "command not found" :(
[08:11] <hyphenated> vbgunz: so install it
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Actually, let's see if those fonts will display with Opera.  I have that too.
[08:11] <Fujitsu> qt2, where?
[08:11] <vbgunz> hyphenated: thank you... sudo apt-get install fakeroot?
[08:11] <qt2> i think my xchat is fecked up or something o.O;
[08:11] <frogzoo> derek_: you could try deleting the linux partitions (heresy, I know)
 +qt2, where? <- example.
[08:12] <hyphenated> vbgunz: worth a try, innit?
[08:12] <viviersf> dli_, it is running bash, its just not wanting to run it from say xterm / konsole / gnome-term
[08:12] <vbgunz> hyphenated: :)
[08:12] <qt2> every line has a + o.O;
[08:12] <Fujitsu> qt2: sound like it is almost reading it raw!
[08:12] <Fujitsu> qt2: + starts most raw messages.
[08:12] <vbgunz> hyphenated: thank you very much for the enlightenment!
[08:12] <bimberi> RancidLM: i guess so.  I'm running the standard 686-smp kernel on a 2GB server and it says  "1663MB HIMEM available." and "896MB LOWMEM available"
 + <- raw indeed...
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Yep, that's a go.  So now all I need is a FF specialist.
[08:12] <bimberi> RancidLM: cat /proc/cpuinfo shows the full 2.4 GB (sorry - 2GB was wrong before)
[08:13] <bimberi> RancidLM: er, cat /proc/meminfo that is :)
[08:13] <qt2> Fujitsu, any idea what might be causing it?
[08:13] <hyphenated> bimberi: you had me worried for a second :-)
[08:13] <RancidLM> bimberi: that would make sence.. cuz that adds up.. .. i dunno maybe i have been missled
[08:13] <qt2> it doesnt seem to be happening on other servers...
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know how to edit the font configuration for Firefox?  I'm having trouble getting it to recognize newly installed fonts.
[08:13] <derek_> frogzoo: after deleting?
[08:13] <bimberi> hyphenated: me too :)
[08:13] <hyphenated> bimberi: I don't want to imagine how big that CPU would be! ;-)
[08:14] <derek_> frogzoo: well then if I set the partitions up again during linux installation, won't windows recognise it again?
[08:14] <frogzoo> derek_: check you're jumperd as master, bios has drive set as LBA, & reinstall
[08:14] <mrkoje> vbgunz: was it you telling me about pptp-linux the otherday?
[08:14] <RancidLM> bimberi:  MemTotal:      1036088 kB
[08:14] <Fujitsu> qt2: N oidea.
[08:14] <RancidLM> bimberi: hrrm that seems to be correct
[08:14] <bimberi> RancidLM: as i understand it, you would see "Warning only 896MB will be used." in dmesg
[08:14] <vbgunz> mrkoje: pptp-linux? I do not believe so...
[08:14] <derek_> frogzoo: reinstall what? win or nix?
[08:14] <nemik> i get this error when trying php, why is that? Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[08:14] <mrkoje> vbgunz: alright, your name looked familiar...
[08:15] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, the fonts you've installed don't come up at all in the font selector menu after restarting FF?
[08:15] <vbgunz> damn... my cd is locked... I have no option to eject the cd... what is the workaround?
[08:15] <frogzoo> derek_: oh, reinstall ubuntu - if you can get the install to work, grub will let you boot xp no probs
[08:15] <Fujitsu> vbgunz: What do you mean?
[08:15] <frogzoo> vbgunz: fuser -k
[08:15] <geneo93> well time for dapper
[08:15] <RancidLM> bimberi: do you know if theres a way i can enable the use of my sawp space.. i have room there.. but its never used.. im just thinking if my rams in a jam.. swaps around...
[08:15] <Fujitsu> geneo93: Do you dare?
[08:16] <geneo93> yup
[08:16] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: I press eject, it doesn't eject... I have no option to unmount it either...
[08:16] <derek_> frogzoo: k.
[08:16] <NoobieDoobieDo> WOW. Something is Majorly wrong.  I just installed this OS two days ago (30gb drive) and it's 94% full.  Yesterday it was like 80something percent.  I'm not downloading _anything_.
[08:16] <GTroy> anyone advise using dapper?
[08:16] <frogzoo> RancidLM: mkswap & swapon
[08:16] <derek_> frogzoo: what's the lba thing btw?
[08:16] <GTroy> over breezy?
[08:16] <vbgunz> fuser -k will eject it?
[08:16] <reign> guys, i put another network card in my breezy machine, and it also isnt detecting
[08:16] <qt2> Fujitsu, suppose its time to reconnect then, eh?
[08:16] <reign> heres a lspci
[08:16] <Fujitsu> vbgunz: Have you right clicked on the icon on the desktop, and clicked eject.
[08:16] <reign> 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[08:16] <reign> Subsystem: Accton Technology Corporation: Unknown device 1216
[08:16] <reign> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B-
[08:16] <reign> Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
[08:16] <reign> Latency: 64 (63750ns min, 63750ns max), Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes)
[08:16] <reign> Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
[08:16] <Fujitsu> qt2: Perhaps.
[08:16] <frogzoo> NoobieDoobieDo: du -sk /var
[08:16] <reign> Region 0: I/O ports at de00 [size=256] 
[08:16] <bimberi> RancidLM: no i don't, I just sit back and let the kernel handle that for me - it knows best :)
[08:16] <reign> Region 1: Memory at effffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] 
[08:16] <reign> Expansion ROM at effc0000 [disabled]  [size=128K] 
[08:16] <reign> Capabilities: <available only to root>
[08:16] <Madpilot> GTroy: see the topic - if you've got to ask, the answer is probably "no"
[08:16] <frogzoo> reign - no spam please
[08:16] <sean_> How do I view my ntfs drives ( I got into fstab, but I don't know the command line)
[08:16] <reign> sorry
[08:16] <Madpilot> !tell reign about pastebin
[08:16] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: thats what I mean... I don't have an icon nor is it panel with my other disk :(
[08:17] <Urthmover> hola
[08:17] <Fujitsu> Hello again, NoobieDoobieDo.
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Correct.
[08:17] <Fujitsu> vbgunz, have you tried in the console?
[08:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> 834200  /var
[08:17] <frogzoo> !tell sean_ about ntfs
[08:17] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: I am not sure of the commands I need to eject
[08:17] <reign> so, can anyone help me with this ?
[08:17] <RancidLM> thnx bimberi and frogzoo
[08:17] <cool_guy> guys is there no kde in ubuntu?
[08:17] <Fujitsu> vbgunz, sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[08:17] <bimberi> RancidLM: np :)
[08:17] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, that is kubuntu
[08:18] <frogzoo> vbgunz: eject should just work, unless you have procs accessing the CD, fuser will show which procs
[08:18] <WildPenguin> cool_guy, just install the kubuntu package
[08:18] <cool_guy> when will tat be realesed
[08:18] <cool_guy> i mean released
[08:18] <Urthmover> umount \dev\cdrom    vbgunz
[08:18] <sampan> noobiedoobiedo  sounds like a runaway log file or something ... someone in #kubuntu had that and it was the .xession-errors file
[08:18] <vbgunz> ok, will try everything
[08:18] <Fujitsu> Urthmover: /dev/cdrom!
[08:18] <cool_guy> kubuntu is an os rite?
[08:19] <derek_> frogzoo: what's the lba thing btw?
[08:19] <vbgunz> eject /dev/cdrom worked!
[08:19] <GTroy> MadPilot: no, I have no problems with ubuntu other than wanting to try dapper
[08:19] <Fujitsu> cool_guy: A variant of ubuntu
[08:19] <bimberi> cool_guy: kde is there, installing kubuntu-desktop gives you a kubuntu setup
[08:19] <vbgunz> nice
[08:19] <sethk> cool_guy, no, kubuntu is a distribution
[08:19] <Fujitsu> vbgunz: Good, vbgunz!
[08:19] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: thank you very much for tha6t!
[08:19] <cool_guy> i havent got it:(
[08:19] <sethk> cool_guy, it's ubuntu but with kde as the default desktop
[08:19] <frogzoo> derek_: it's a way for the bios to access large drives
[08:19] <GTroy> MadPilot: and wanted to know others exp.
[08:19] <geneo93> if you want to keep gnome just add kde
[08:19] <derek_> frogzoo: k
[08:19] <cool_guy> how can i ask for it?
[08:19] <vbgunz> now I am putting the cd back in the tray... trying again (Dapper Drake Flight 1)
[08:20] <vbgunz> ahh, this time it worked, nice :)
[08:20] <sethk> cool_guy, not sure what you mean.  You can download the CDs
[08:20] <frogzoo> !tell cool_guy about kde
[08:20] <sethk> cool_guy, or do you mean you have ubuntu installed and you want to add kde?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Scratch that.
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I hadn't restarted.
[08:20] <bimberi> cool_guy: what's your situation, have you just recently installed?
[08:21] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, did that help at all once you did?
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Yep.  Isn't it nice when it's that simple?  (If humiliating.)
[08:21] <cool_guy> yes
[08:21] <cdubya> heh
[08:21] <cool_guy> i got the 5.10 version of ubuntu
[08:21] <cool_guy> but i dnt have kde in it
[08:21] <qt2> hm
[08:21] <cool_guy> wat will i do
[08:21] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, it's too often that way for me.....:)
[08:22] <Fujitsu> cool_guy: kubuntu is a seperate project, however downloading kubuntu-desktop from Synaptic will get DE.
[08:22] <qt2> someone mind doing a /me for me, so i can verify my client is reciving in raw mode?
[08:22] <Fujitsu> *KDE
[08:22] <bimberi> cool_guy: you might only have the ubuntu CD enabled as a repository ...
[08:22] <cool_guy> can i ask them to send 1 cd for me jus like ubuntu?
[08:22] <qt2> thanks ^.^;
[08:22] <bimberi> ubotu tell cool_guy about repositories
[08:22] <Fujitsu> qt2, how is it?
[08:22] <qt2> its... raw. :P
[08:22] <Fujitsu> qt2: Standard 5.10 XChat?
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I think for many.  Thanks for the help!
[08:23] <det> Anyway to dpkg-buildpackage and force a different gcc version?
[08:23] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, np
[08:23] <qt2> Fujitsu, hm?
[08:23] <Fujitsu> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:24] <crimsun> det: set it before debian/rules is invoke, e.g., CC=gcc-3.4 . In some instances, you'd set it in debian/rules itself.
[08:24] <crimsun> s/invoke/invoked/
[08:24] <bimberi> det: (madly guessing) export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  (if gcc-3.4 is installed, and assuming that's the version you want)
[08:25] <mcadory> anybody else have weird messages from atd?
[08:25] <det> thanks
[08:25] <mcadory> in dmesg
[08:25] <crimsun> mcadory: example?
[08:28] <mcadory> crimsun: [4323616.489000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[08:29] <qt2> Fujitsu, apparently, its not raw, but rather something called "CAPAB IDENTIFY-MSG"
[08:29] <Fujitsu> Ok.
[08:29] <Fujitsu> qt2, how did you fix it?
[08:30] <qt2> Fujitsu, no clue. :P
[08:30] <Fujitsu> But it works now?
[08:31] <crimsun> mcadory: known issue, nothing to really worry about
[08:31] <mcadory> where can I find more info?
[08:31] <crimsun> mcadory: lkml archives, google, etc.
[08:31] <ICE9> when I try to search for mplayer using apt-cache It doesn't find it
[08:31] <ICE9> what can I do
[08:32] <mcadory> thnks
[08:32] <crimsun> !info mplayer-586
[08:32] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[08:32] <crimsun> ICE9: that should answer your question
[08:32] <ICE9> how  about for 686
[08:32] <ICE9> amd 64
[08:32] <Fujitsu> uboto tell ICE9 about repositories
[08:32] <flabby> When I goto System>Logout is a script executed or is it a binary?
[08:32] <crimsun> there is none for 686 (-686 is a metapackage that depends on -586)
[08:33] <Fujitsu> ubotutell ICE9 about repositories
[08:33] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[08:33] <Fujitsu> Aren't I terrible.
[08:33] <crimsun> !mplayer-amd64
[08:33] <ubotu> crimsun: I give up, what is it?
[08:33] <crimsun> !info mplayer-amd64
[08:33] <rixth> IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.200 should be within MY network eh?
[08:33] <Fujitsu> ICE9: Do you know how to add multiverse?
[08:33] <Fujitsu> rixth: Depends.
[08:33] <vbgunz> when you sudo dpkg -i anynew.deb... does apt continue to update it?
[08:34] <Fujitsu> vbgunz: Yes
[08:34] <ICE9> hmm
[08:34] <ICE9> no
[08:34] <ICE9> I don't
[08:34] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: thank you again!
[08:34] <Fujitsu> ubotu tell ICE9 about repositories
[08:34] <rixth> Fujitsu, I have one computer connected to my router. My IP is 192.168.0.2, router is 192.168.0.1. Where would 1.100 & 1.200 be coming from?
[08:34] <Fujitsu> Who knows. They are not on your network, rixth.
[08:34] <Fujitsu> Where have you seen them?
[08:35] <Fujitsu> They must be on your network, but they shouldn't bee.
[08:35] <Fujitsu> *be
[08:35] <qt2> Fujitsu, nah, i'm still getting stuff in the same way.
[08:35] <rixth> I found them using nmap.
[08:35] <Fujitsu> qt2: Very odd. Normal Ubuntu XChat?
[08:35] <Fujitsu> rixth: Any other devices on your network?
[08:35] <rixth> Fujitsu, nope. No wireless cards either.
[08:35] <qt2> Fujitsu, yep, apparently xcaht added support for hte feature that freenode came uo with back in 2.4.0
[08:36] <qt2> Fujitsu, thing is, i dont know how it got turned on, and i dont know how to turn it off.
[08:36] <rixth> I scanned both IPs (ports 5-100). 1.200 has FTP, SSH and Web. 1.100 has finger.
[08:36] <Fujitsu> rixth, use a web browser to go to .200
[08:36] <rixth> http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/1406/werid2dq.gif
[08:36] <qt2> Fujitsu, basically, this thing puts a + beside the line of text if a nick is regged, and a - if it isn't.
[08:36] <rixth> Fujitsu, I have.
[08:36] <Fujitsu> What is it, rixth?
[08:36] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[08:36] <Fujitsu> OK.
[08:37] <vbgunz> man I love Ubuntu when it just works...
[08:37] <kane_> haha
[08:37] <rixth> Fujitsu, could it be hardware at my ISP?
[08:37] <geneo93> i see kane stole my nick
[08:37] <sean_> My NTFS drives are mounted, but they still won't let me in....
[08:37] <ICE9> k I have no check marks by mine at all
[08:37] <vbgunz> support is awesome... if I ever become a multi-millionaire I will definitely give a million or more to it
[08:37] <ICE9> which one do I get
[08:38] <Fujitsu> rixth, traceroute it.
[08:38] <derek_> vbgunz: what kind of support?
[08:38] <kane_> geneo93: unless that's a lame attempt at humor that i'm not getting, please go register your nick if you feel so strong about it
[08:38] <gee_cee0> guys, does anyone know how to open a .c file that i used gcc on?
[08:38] <rixth>  2  60.234.8.15 (60.234.8.15)  83.382 ms  80.526 ms  79.556 ms
[08:38] <rixth>  3  192.168.1.100 (192.168.1.100)  80.880 ms  83.416 ms *
[08:38] <zcat[1] > gee_cee0: use vi ?
[08:39] <gee_cee0> gedit
[08:39] <rixth> Hmm. It is ISP stuff.
[08:39] <derek_> gee_cee0: vi file.c
[08:39] <Fujitsu> It is, rixth.
[08:39] <rixth> Well, it seems to be.
[08:39] <derek_> gee_cee0: to just read it: cat file.c
[08:39] <vbgunz> derek_: the support in here, the forums and all around... even other channels, everyone is just frigging cool... I am so happy I switched to Linux... In 60 days I know more Linux users than in 10 years on Windows... I feel at home and the OS is great!
[08:39] <gee_cee0> no i meant open as executable
[08:39] <kane_> rixth: it is indeed.. their dns shouldn't be resolving it though
[08:39] <derek_> vbgunz: k :)
[08:39] <Fujitsu> rixth, they certainly shouldn't be using such IPs.
[08:39] <gee_cee0> to execute it?
[08:39] <rixth> Yes. I will notify them.
[08:39] <kane_> rixth: according to the RFC at least
[08:39] <ICE9> can anyone help me
[08:39] <vbgunz> derek_: :)
[08:39] <Fujitsu> It is completely forbidden, in fact.
[08:39] <rixth> kane_ yeah. Thats was puzzled me.
[08:39] <Fujitsu> ICE9: Yes.
[08:39] <gee_cee0> how to execute a gcced .c file?
[08:40] <derek_> vbgunz: yeah. We should support the open source community.
[08:40] <ICE9> don't have any checkmarks in repositories
[08:40] <cdubya> gee_cee, ./exe_file_name    ?
[08:40] <gee_cee0> ah ok ill try it
[08:40] <ICE9> do I add them then if so what do I add?
[08:40] <Fujitsu> ICE9: Check the multiverse repositories...
[08:40] <vbgunz> derek_: I hope one day I will be able to give a few million out... I would definitely sleep better :)
[08:40] <derek_> =)
[08:40] <Fujitsu> vbgunz: If only I had some large amounts of money...
[08:40] <lampshade> booga
[08:41] <gee_cee0> ah ok thanks cdubya
[08:41] <derek_> vbgunz: you can support in non-monetary ways too
[08:41] <cdubya> gee_cee0, np.
[08:41] <Fujitsu> derek_, true. Like giving support on this channel!
[08:41] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: don't we all... we just need to stop wishing and start working on it... Time is an investment much like money... I've invested my time and am hoping it comes back to me soon :)
[08:42] <Madpilot> vbgunz: order a load of ubuntu CDs from ShipIt, and start evangalizing friends, neighbours and innocent bystanders! :D
[08:42] <derek_> Fujitsu: yes. and the developers can help in the development
[08:42] <vbgunz> derek_: I know there are other ways... I gave out some CDs and am still waiting on Breezy to come in... I just don't think it is coming... Don't wish to order again though...
[08:42] <vbgunz> Madpilot: yup, I did that :)
[08:42] <Fujitsu> I know! Get thousands of CDs, and bomb your capital city down with them from a helicopter!
[08:43] <cdubya> heh
[08:43] <cdubya> that's one way to do it....
[08:43] <reign> ok guys, please can you help me with this, heres my nic lspci
[08:43] <vbgunz> anyone live in Orlando Florida? I would like to start up a club or join one for that matter..
[08:43] <reign> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445864
[08:43] <Fujitsu> derek_: I am probably going to attempt to help with dev at some point.
[08:43] <shriver> I wonder what the tech desk at my college would do if I handed them a big box of Ubuntu CDs.
[08:43] <Fujitsu> shriver: Perform your username without the first r.
[08:44] <derek_> Fujitsu: great! ..and I being a graphics professional, could prolly help with the graphic design part
[08:44] <Fujitsu> ...and then throw them back at you.
[08:44] <shriver> hehe
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Everybody should do everything they can to help Open Source!
[08:44] <Madpilot> vbgunz: ask google about lugs in your area?
[08:44] <derek_> Indeed!
[08:44] <Fujitsu> reign: What is the issue?
[08:44] <shriver> I really need to work on the tact in which I deliver said CDs to my friends
[08:44] <cdubya> heh, Fujitsu, pushing it everyplace I can....
[08:44] <ICE9> still nothing
[08:44] <reign> sun is releasing everything they have, opensource now
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Same here, cdubya.
[08:44] <Fujitsu> reign: I noticed that.
[08:45] <reign> Fujitsu the problem is, it's not being detected
[08:45] <Madpilot> shriver: yeah, saying "Here, this is better than that MS crap you've inflicted on yourself" somehow doesn't win converts, does it?
[08:45] <reign> i have no eth0
[08:45] <Fujitsu> shriver: I am not too good with it, either.
[08:45] <ICE9> I upgraded too
[08:45] <cdubya> Fujitsu, if only folks weren't so scared...
[08:45] <vbgunz> Madpilot: Lugs? Sounds interesting, would really like to join up with a club, I'll probably go fanatic though... I am so into Linux... (*%$ing incredible... Really is...
[08:45] <cdubya> at least that's what I find.....
[08:45] <ICE9> there just not showing up
[08:45] <sean_> Is there any way to sign into the GUI as administrator?
[08:45] <Madpilot> vbgunz: lug = Linux User Group
[08:45] <ptlo> sean_, no
[08:45] <vbgunz> Madpilot: thanks bro!
[08:46] <Fujitsu> reign, it apparently doesn't know it is a NIC... Maybe you need to load some kernel module...
[08:46] <ptlo> sean_, the ubuntu policy is that you use everything as an ordinary user, and become admin *only* when you need it
[08:46] <sean_> How can I access my NTFS partitions???
[08:46] <reign> Fujitsu , could you tell me how ?
[08:46] <Madpilot> sean_: mount them
[08:46] <Fujitsu> reign: First, we need to find out what the module for your card is.
[08:46] <cdubya> vbgunz, http://www.linux.org/groups/usa/florida.html
[08:46] <derek_> sean_: are they mounted?
[08:46] <Madpilot> !tell sean_ about ntfs
[08:46] <reign> ok
[08:46] <sean_> I mounted so as to let everybody have access, but every time I try access
[08:46] <sean_> it says I have no permission
[08:46] <frogzoo> reign: apparently the tulip driver will most likely work - I would assume therea  tulip pkg
[08:46] <vbgunz> cdubya: hahaha... I got butterflies in the stomach... I love it :D
[08:47] <Fujitsu> sean_: You need to make sure you have umask=0222 added to the options in fstab. That is the problem
[08:47] <rixth> I'm now scanning 192.168.1-255.1-255. See what else is there.
[08:47] <cdubya> vbgunz, :)
[08:47] <ICE9> got it now thx guys
[08:47] <rixth> 192.168.2.1 192.168.3.1
[08:47] <Madpilot> sean_: you might need to chown the directorie syou mounted the drives to?
[08:47] <Fujitsu> rixth: Probably not advisable, but your ISP shouldn't be doing it anyway.
[08:47] <Madpilot> *directories
[08:47] <vbgunz> wow, found one group right in my area!
[08:47] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, the issue is the lack of umask.
[08:48] <rixth> Fujitsu, I'm not DOING anything wrong. I could sai I was simply scanning my own network.
[08:48] <rixth> Not my fault they put their shit on it.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> rixth: Exactly.
[08:48] <sean_> do I put the umask after the fmask and dmask?
[08:48] <Fujitsu> sean_, you already have them? Odd.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Put it before.
[08:48] <reign> Fujitsu: ok let me see if i can find one, ill let you know when i have one
[08:48] <Fujitsu> It should work with just the fmask and dmask.
[08:48] <cdubya> vbgunz, cool.
[08:48] <sean_> I know
[08:48] <cdubya> :)
[08:48] <rixth> Fujitsu, holy moly! There are over 150 internal IPs used!
[08:49] <Orporg> Greetings
[08:49] <Fujitsu> rixth, it would normally be very evil to do such a thing, and would get you in trouble, but if they are using internal addresses, as you say it is their problem.
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Orporg: Hi.
[08:50] <sean_> well, I just added the umask, and it says line 6 and 7 are bad
[08:50] <aftertaf> sean_:  post your fstab to a pastebin
[08:50] <vbgunz> cdubya: :)
[08:50] <Orporg> If it's ok, I'd like to ask for a hand with my installation.
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Orporg, that's fine!
[08:50] <Orporg> Thank you.
[08:50] <aftertaf> :)
[08:50] <cdubya> vbgunz, get out and play....;)
[08:50] <kane_> rixth: as long as you dont have a crazy happy-go-sue ISP you'll be fine :)
[08:50] <sean_> Pastebin?
[08:50] <aftertaf> !tell sean_ about pastebin
[08:50] <Orporg> It's been a long time since I used IRC so please bear with me.
[08:50] <aftertaf> hehe Orporg ;)
[08:51] <Fujitsu> Orporg, don't worry!
[08:51] <derek_> vbgunz: is the 'vb' for visual basic? ;)
[08:51] <Orporg> Essentially, Ubuntu is crashing during the installation.
[08:51] <rixth> kane_ Filling law suits isn't easy in NZ :)
[08:51] <Fujitsu> Orporg, what is the error?
[08:51] <kane_> rixth++ # living in a sane country
[08:51] <vbgunz> cdubya: thanks bro, I owe you one for that link... I hope the club is active... doesn't need to be big
[08:51] <rixth> Hehe :)
[08:51] <aftertaf> Orporg:  at what point? any errors?
[08:51] <cdubya> vbgunz, NP.....get involved.....and like Fujitsu said, keeping pushing OSS......
[08:51] <vbgunz> derek_: no, vb is my first two initials (Victor B. Gonzalez)
[08:51] <Orporg> A kernel panic.  The installer crashes at the following message:  Kernel panic - not syncinc: Attempted to kill init!
[08:51] <sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445869
[08:52] <derek_> vbgunz: ok
[08:52] <aftertaf> Orporg:  and this happens at what point in the install?
[08:52] <Orporg> And then bites it at the number: [4294669.433000] 
[08:52] <Fujitsu> sean_, a comma, not a space!
[08:52] <vbgunz> derek_: I get asked that a lot though... :)
[08:52] <Orporg> This occurs right after I hit enter at the "boot:" prompt
[08:52] <Fujitsu> Orporg, strange!
[08:52] <cool_guy> guys i installed wine
[08:52] <cool_guy> n y is it so slow
[08:52] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, running what?
[08:52] <cool_guy> i mean its very slow
[08:52] <cool_guy> wine
[08:53] <cool_guy> y?
[08:53] <Orporg> I obtained Ubuntu by downloading the ISO image and burning it to CD.
[08:53] <cool_guy> windows emulator
[08:53] <Fujitsu> What are you running, cool_guy?
[08:53] <aftertaf> Orporg:  right!! ok.   can you test the cd on another pc?
[08:53] <Orporg> Unfortunately, no.  This is the only machine I can risk this on.
[08:53] <sean_> it's still saying I don't have permission in gui
[08:53] <Orporg> I built this by hand though, so I can rip things out if necessary
[08:53] <cool_guy> wine
[08:53] <aftertaf> sean_:  ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 umask=0222
[08:53] <cool_guy> windows emulator
[08:53] <zcat[1] > I suggest getting theultimatebootcd and trying some diagnostics.
[08:53] <cool_guy> y?
[08:53] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, what in Wine!
[08:53] <deFrysk> cool_guy, running what on wine ?
[08:54] <aftertaf> sean_:  you need to put a comma between dmask and umask....   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,umask=0222
[08:54] <Fujitsu> Orporg, it won't do anything destructive unless you tell it do.
[08:54] <cool_guy> i tried to run a flash game
[08:54] <zcat[1] > kernel panic == TARFU
[08:54] <cdubya> sean, this is what I used, not sure if it will help....    /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[08:54] <Fujitsu> cool_guy, some things will run fine, outers won't...
[08:54] <Fujitsu> *others
[08:54] <Orporg> Well, the only other two machines I have is the PC I'm using now and my iBook (bless it!).  I need both of them running at the moment.
[08:54] <aftertaf> Orporg:  might be worth reburning the cd at low speed...   and do you have any very recent hardware?
[08:55] <kane_> !ntfs
[08:55] <zcat[1] > Orporg: the machine you're installing to.. will it run any other OS?
[08:55] <saik0> Could anyone familiar with mpd help me configure it. It wont play anything. (trying to use alsa)
[08:55] <sean_> no, I fixed the comma and it still didn't work
[08:55] <sean_> will try the other line
[08:55] <aftertaf> sean_:  on both lines.....
[08:55] <Orporg> The hardware in the Linux machine is fairly old:  1 Ghz Celeron, 10 gig hard drive.
[08:56] <aftertaf> Orporg:  ok. not a compat issue then..... how much memory?
[08:56] <Orporg> I haven't tried another OS.  I don't have any copies of Windows lying around that I can boot from.
[08:56] <Sneaky_Bastard> is regular Ubuntu using ARTSD for sound ?
[08:56] <Orporg> It has 1 stick of 256 SDRAM and another stick of 128 SDRAM.
[08:56] <Sneaky_Bastard> if so, is it possible to use something else and have KDE sound apps still work ?
[08:56] <saik0> Sneaky_Bastard, esd
[08:56] <reign> Fujitsu: the tulip driver was removed
[08:57] <Sneaky_Bastard> ok
[08:57] <Orporg> Well, it will boot from a badly damaged MS-DOS 6.2 floppy
[08:57] <Sneaky_Bastard> well I see artsd running in KUbuntu, sot hat must be one of the differences
[08:57] <Sneaky_Bastard> ty
[08:57] <zcat[1] > that's a start.. DOS doesn't ask much of the hardware though..
[08:57] <Orporg> True
[08:57] <saik0> Sneaky_Bastard, yes, KDE uses artsd
[08:57] <shriver> Sneaky_Bastard: ARTSD is the default sound daemon for KDE, esd for Gnome
[08:57] <ptlo> Sneaky_Bastard, artsd is KDE's sound daemon. GNOME uses esd as the sound daemon (and regular Ubuntu is GNOME based)
[08:58] <Orporg> The ultimate boot cd?
[08:58] <aftertaf> Orporg:  try just on 128 or on 256, could be faultyish memory
[08:58] <saik0> I'm not sure if "GNOME" uses esd
[08:58] <reign> Fujitsu , they say the driver can be found here http://www.kernel.org/ , im not sure which one is right...
[08:58] <zcat[1] > it's a cd full of diagnostic stuff, about 180M total IIRC.. free download.
[08:58] <Orporg> Won't Ubuntu not run with so little memory?
[08:58] <Fujitsu> Orporg: I have run it on 128, and the installer on 64!
[08:58] <sean_> tried nls=utf8,umask=0222.... didn't work
[08:59] <Orporg> How does it work?  I'm a Linux retard, I'm afraid.
[08:59] <Fujitsu> sean_, what does it say now.
[08:59] <frogzoo> Orporg: should be able to install with 256Meg I'd guess
[08:59] <aftertaf> Orporg:  it can with 128... obvisously better with more, but this is for testing purposes.
[08:59] <zcat[1] > Umm.. ubcd has a memory tester. Slightly better than just guessing/swapping things at arndom..
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Orporg: We all have to start somewhere!
[08:59] <Kayde> ok, all i need help w/th is: how to acess menu.lst through root
[08:59] <sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445870
[08:59] <saik0> Orporg, ubuntu should boot fine, it's GNOME thats gonna give you hell
[08:59] <derrickw> hey don't anybody know of a good AIM client that can run in the console? i'm not sure how that would work, exactly, but i would love one for this old laptop i found in my closet
[08:59] <sethk> zcat[1] , nah, guess, and better yet, guess the same thing over and over even if it doesn't work.
[08:59] <derrickw> er, doesn't anybody*
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Kayde, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:59] <derrickw> wow that was a hickish typo
[08:59] <sean_> I click on media/windows and it says I don't have permission
[08:59] <Kayde> ty
[08:59] <Orporg> Where do I get this lovely CD?
[09:00] <zcat[1] > I think it's untimatebootcd.org .. I'd have to check :)
[09:00] <Orporg> Well, I was really looking forward to using GNOME.... I've had it with Slackware
[09:00] <Fujitsu> sean_, have you tried to remount it?
[09:00] <aftertaf> derrickw:  or run a lightweight WM on it. i do on mine and its fine
[09:00] <jcaine> sean_, have you tried checking your user permissions?
[09:00] <sean_> remounted.... how do I check permission (it should be full access, but...)
[09:01] <aftertaf> Orporg:  1st reburn at low speed the iso...  2nd try with alternate RAM modules
[09:01] <cdubya> sean_, ls -l /media/windows
[09:01] <frogzoo> Orporg: you could try reburning the iso - but select mode one and "burn at once" instead of multisession
[09:01] <zcat[1] > another option; set the BIOS back to defaults..
[09:01] <derrickw> aftertaf - it's a pretty old laptop, and the track ball barely works, plus i'm going to use it to run some small servers, and i don't want the wm to crash it
[09:01] <Madpilot> sean_: are you down in your root directory? the "File System"?
[09:01] <zcat[1] > check that drives are definately jumpered correctly
[09:01] <aftertaf> derrickw:  hehe ok. how much mem & proc speed?
[09:02] <Orporg> It did do "disc at once" when it burned.  It was the only option for an ISO file.
[09:02] <Orporg> I did when I stuck them in.  The hard drive is set for "single" and is alone on the Primary master.  The CD-ROM drive is set for "master" and is alone on the Secondary master
[09:02] <derrickw> aftertaf - i'm not sure; the power supply is dysfunctional and i wasn't able to salvage it without risking serious injury. it's an armada 7370
[09:02] <Madpilot> Orporg: burning in XP?
[09:03] <Orporg> Yes.  With Easy CD Creator
[09:03] <sean_> In terminal I am, and it lets me access them, but in gui, it won't
[09:03] <zcat[1] > http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ ;-)
[09:03] <Orporg> I found it.  Thank you
[09:03] <Madpilot> Orporg: have you read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:03] <Fujitsu> sean_, how are you using the gui to do it?
[09:03] <derrickw> apt-get is amazing
[09:03] <aftertaf> derrickw:  it is :)   try apt-get moo
[09:04] <sampan> moo ?
[09:04] <frogzoo> Orporg: check ur burning mode 1
[09:04] <sean_> applications/accessories/file browser
[09:04] <aftertaf> sambagirl:  try it ;)
[09:04] <floppyears> hi
[09:04] <floppyears> I just got a new 320GB hdd
[09:04] <Orporg> No.  I looked for documentation on the Ubuntu website but it seemed very sparse.
[09:04] <zcat[1] > If it gets as far as a boot: prompt it's probably an OK burn..
[09:05] <Fujitsu> Remember, 'This APT has super-cow powers!'
[09:05] <Fujitsu> floopyears, hello.
[09:05] <floppyears> what's the best way to partition it ?
[09:05] <aftertaf> floppyears:  nice :)
[09:05] <Sneaky_Bastard> Shiver: any other Sound daemon besides artsd that works for KDE ?
[09:05] <floppyears> are there any limitations in ext3 regarding partition size?
[09:05] <sampan> lol "have you mooed today"
[09:05] <aftertaf> floppyears:  depends on what you want to do with it....
[09:05] <cdubya> sean_, have you tried to connect using Places > Connect to Server?
[09:05] <Fujitsu> floppears, I don't believe so.
[09:05] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : not if it doesn't like the layout - hence why mode 1
[09:05] <saik0> Sneaky_Bastard, why would you WANT another sound daemon?
[09:06] <floppyears> aftertaf: I don't have many plans. I will probably keep some music and video files as well as my linux
[09:06] <Madpilot> derrickw: when you mount the partitions, you should mount them to a directory in your user directory... the media/etc stuff is system level
[09:06] <LaptopSword> hey hello all
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Hello LaptopSword.
[09:06] <deFrysk> hey LaptopSword
[09:06] <sean_> I just opened connect to server... what do I do from there?
[09:06] <aftertaf> floppyears:  a new install or not?
[09:06] <Madpilot> derrickw: sorry, not for you
[09:06] <frogzoo> LaptopSword: curious nic ....
[09:06] <floppyears> no
[09:06] <LaptopSword> :P
[09:06] <LaptopSword> well
[09:06] <LaptopSword> 2 systems on atm
[09:06] <qt2> hm, why does thre seem to be a lot less in the breezy synaptic than there was in the hoary synaptic? :o theres only about 17k in breezy when thre was like 36k in hardy.... am i jsu tmissing some source.list stuff?
[09:06] <reign> Fujitsu, apparently the tulip driver is in the kernel source that i downloaded
[09:06] <cdubya> sean_, change the service type to Windows share....
[09:06] <LaptopSword> i have something maybe a bug or something
[09:06] <crimsun> 36k? in Hoary? um, no...
[09:07] <floppyears> aftertaf: I know that having one huge partition is a bad idea, I'm just wondering how many should I have and what sizes
[09:07] <aftertaf> floppyears:  in that case you're free to play...
[09:07] <Fujitsu> OK, reign.
[09:07] <sethk> LaptopSword, don't send it over irc
[09:07] <frogzoo> qt2: multiverse repos?
[09:07] <LaptopSword> when i connect my psp to my pc it crashes :(
[09:07] <cdubya> sean_, do you know the share name you want to connect to and the IP of the box?
[09:07] <LaptopSword> and i dunno why :(
[09:07] <reign> Fujitsu, by telling you that... it means i dont know what to do next :P
[09:07] <sean_> no
[09:07] <aftertaf> floppyears:  true.... make 2 partitions and dont use all the free disk space yet if you dont need to.
[09:08] <floppyears> aftertaf: ok, thanks
[09:08] <cdubya> sean_, it's a windows box on the same network?
[09:08] <Fujitsu> Is tulip not in the Ubuntu kernel?
[09:08] <aftertaf> floppyears:  and get yourself a 2nd swap and put  em in raid for better perfs :)
[09:08] <floppyears> aftertaf: hehe, thanks
[09:08] <zcat[1] > /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/tulip.ko
[09:08] <Fujitsu> I thought so.
[09:08] <reign> Fujitsu, i dont know
[09:08] <sean_> there's nothing in there....
[09:09] <Fujitsu> reign, sudo modprobe tulip in a terminal.
[09:09] <reign> ok
[09:09] <Orporg> I'm downloading the ultimate boot CD now.... I hope that tells me something.
[09:09] <sean_> If I'm in terminal as su, I can view everything, but only in terminal....
[09:09] <cdubya> sean_, what's the IP of the box you're hitting?
[09:09] <reign> returned nothing ?
[09:09] <Fujitsu> Good.
[09:09] <Fujitsu> Now have a look for eth0.
[09:09] <sean_> I don't know....
[09:09] <frogzoo> LaptopSword: maybe install ethereal will give you a clue
[09:09] <cdubya> sean_, or NetBIOS name for that matter....
[09:10] <LaptopSword> frogzoo what's ethereal?
[09:10] <reign> nope nothing
[09:10] <Fujitsu> LaptopSword, a protocol/Ethernet analyser.
[09:10] <frogzoo> ethereal is a packet sniffer
[09:10] <sean_> it's a diffent partition on the same HD....
[09:10] <LaptopSword> i don't need that?
[09:10] <Ce_Dreaku> can anyone help me instaling a Hp dekjet 3745 printer in Ubuntu?
[09:10] <cdubya> sean_, ah
[09:10] <saik0> !ethereal
[09:10] <ubotu> saik0: Not a clue
[09:10] <Fujitsu> reign, check the details for the card again...
[09:11] <saik0> nope...
[09:11] <reign> ok, sec
[09:11] <frogzoo> reign - the driver might like some options, irq etc
[09:11] <LaptopSword> it's a full system lockup when i open the connection from the psp to my pc
[09:11] <Fujitsu> frogzoo, it might.
[09:11] <shadukan> hello
[09:11] <sean_> How can I change access rights so anybody can open it.... umask didn't seem to work.... any other options?
[09:11] <Fujitsu> Hello, shadukan.
[09:11] <shadukan> i  am a fun of debian and just switched to ubuntu
[09:11] <reign> Fujitsu, looks the same
[09:11] <frogzoo> sean_: chmod a+r filename
[09:12] <shadukan> like the look and feel of it
[09:12] <Fujitsu> shadukan, good.
[09:12] <LaptopSword> arf need to go tho
[09:12] <crimsun> sean_: what type of filesystem?
[09:12] <LaptopSword> :(
[09:12] <LaptopSword> bbye all
[09:12] <sean_> ntfs
[09:12] <shadukan> but i have a pc ata home with no internet connection
[09:12] <shadukan> problems paying the big pay
[09:12] <Fujitsu> reign, odd. I don't know anything about these linksys cards.
[09:12] <gnugeek> Any software like Google Earth on ubunt?
[09:12] <gnugeek> Any software like Google Earth on ubunt?
[09:12] <shadukan> and i want to download and install extra packages
[09:12] <gnugeek> Any software like Google Earth on ubuntu Linux?
[09:13] <gnugeek> hello?
[09:13] <shadukan> can download updated and extra packages and burn them to a cd
[09:13] <shadukan> ?
[09:13] <Fujitsu> shadukan, yes.
[09:13] <gnugeek> anyone here
[09:13] <crimsun> sean_: what's the output from ''mount|grep ntfs''?
[09:13] <saik0> gnugeek, holy hell calm down
[09:13] <Fujitsu> gnugeek, no, but Google Earth runs in Wine.
[09:13] <cdubya> sean_, does it show up on the desktop?
[09:13] <gnugeek> Its not running in cedega
[09:13] <Fujitsu> ubotu tell gnugeek about wine
[09:13] <Ce_Dreaku> can anyone help me instaling a Hp dekjet 3745 printer in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <Fujitsu> gnugeek, it is meant to run in Wine.
[09:13] <sean_> yes
[09:14] <sean_> it shows up on desktop
[09:14] <Fujitsu> Ce_Dreaku, I can try.
[09:14] <insipid> when i try to run an application such synaptic using the gnome laucher it asks me for the password, i type it and nothing happens... does this mean something is wrong in my sudoers file?
[09:14] <shadukan> but the thing i am afraid is that i may need extra packages to meet depencies and i will have problem
[09:14] <saik0> gnugeek, cedega forked from wine long ago. wine <> cedega
[09:14] <gnugeek> should i do, apt-get install wine xwine
[09:14] <shadukan> can anyone estimate the size of full packages ?
[09:14] <shadukan> try synaptic instead...
[09:14] <gnugeek> I've  installed cedega 5
[09:14] <Fujitsu> What do you mean, shadukan?
[09:14] <shadukan> gnugeek
[09:14] <shadukan> like
[09:14] <cdubya> sean_, what does ls -l /media/windows say?
[09:15] <crimsun> ''apt-cache show package'' has a size.
[09:15] <Ce_Dreaku> Fujitsu, please join #ce_dr
[09:15] <reign> Fujitsu: the reason im using this card, is because my realtek card wasnt being detected either
[09:15] <shadukan> if i want to install  for example php5 i will need php libraries
[09:15] <sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445880
[09:15] <shadukan> crimsun i thought of that...
[09:15] <Fujitsu> shadukan, yes. YOu will need to work out the dependencies.
[09:15] <crimsun> shadukan: then use apt-get -s
[09:15] <sean_> outcome of mouunt|grep
[09:15] <Plazma> where do we report a user on irc who is being offensive and so forth on a certain channel?
[09:16] <crimsun> Plazma: Ubuntu-related channel?
[09:16] <Plazma> no
[09:16] <Hobbsee> #freenode maybe?
[09:16] <crimsun> Plazma: then report it to whomever is in charge of that channel
[09:16] <shadukan> i will give it a hank
[09:16] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[09:16] <shadukan> ciao from greece
[09:16] <gnugeek> wine and cedega sucks?
[09:16] <Plazma> crimsun, so only the person in charge of the channel can do anything about it?
[09:16] <gnugeek> anything native for
[09:17] <cdubya> sean_, I see that, but can you post the outcome of ls -l /media/windows for curiosity.....
[09:17] <crimsun> Plazma: no, but that's the standard escalation procedure. Beyond that you'd have to ask in #freenode.
[09:17] <qt2> err, someone mind putting up a "full" sources.list for breezy on pastebin for me?
[09:17] <gnugeek> I believe it WONT WORK on WINE
[09:17] <Plazma> ok. thanks
[09:17] <Fujitsu> gnugeek, I believe that many people have got it working. Check the Applications Database on winehq.org
[09:17] <crimsun> sean_: none of your NTFS partitions are mounted with umask=022
[09:18] <sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445892
[09:18] <gnugeek> what is ubot's command args?
[09:18] <gnugeek> what are^
[09:18] <sean_> outcome of ls -l /media/windows
[09:18] <gnugeek> ubotu
[09:18] <crimsun> sean_: remount them with umask=022
[09:18] <crimsun> sean_: you don't need fmask,dmask
[09:18] <gnugeek> !ubotu
[09:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:19] <sean_> 022? I was told 0222
[09:19] <crimsun> sean_: either.
[09:19] <Plazma> man it wont let me type in freenode
[09:19] <crimsun> Plazma: that channel is muted by default
[09:19] <crimsun> s/muted/moderated/
[09:19] <Plazma> ahh
[09:20] <Plazma> darn
[09:20] <sean_> didn't work
[09:20] <crimsun> sean_: what didn't?
[09:20] <cdubya> sean_, what's the outcome of ls -l /media
[09:21] <insipid> im having problems with sudo when i issue commands with sudo.. nothing happens after i put in password
[09:21] <cdubya> sean, umount /media/windows, then mount it again after you do what crimsun suggested and see if that works....
[09:21] <AAARRRGGGHHHH> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445899
[09:21] <Plazma> crimsun, so how do i get ahold of somone in there if im muted
[09:21] <AAARRRGGGHHHH> outcome of ls -l /media
[09:21] <insipid> insipid@gimli:/etc$ sudo man sudo
[09:21] <insipid> insipid@gimli:/etc$ sudo nano
[09:21] <insipid> insipid@gimli:/etc$
[09:21] <AAARRRGGGHHHH> Still can't access drives from gui
[09:22] <cdubya> sean_, you're trying to get to the files on the windows share, but you don't have any permissions....root owns it....
[09:22] <crimsun> Plazma: message an ircop
[09:22] <AAARRRGGGHHHH> how do I change that???????
[09:22] <Plazma> how do i know if there an ircop or not
[09:22] <Sean_> How do I make it so root doesn't own my ntfs exclusivly
[09:22] <gnugeek> ubotu tell gnugeek about wine
[09:23] <crimsun> Sean_: you need to umount all of the following /media/windows, /media/hda1, /media/hda5
[09:23] <Plazma> !ubotu tell gnugeek about cedega
[09:23] <cyphase> "In a shocking turn of events, a graffiti artist, on retainer from Sony, 'tagged' Sysinternals headquarters this evening with two $ signs, rendering the building and all of it's employees invisible to the naked eye."
[09:23] <cdubya> crimsun, chown -R sean:sean /media/windows ?
[09:23] <Sean_> Umount?
[09:23] <crimsun> Plazma: there are. They have freenode/staff cloaks
[09:23] <crimsun> cdubya: no
[09:24] <Madpilot> cyphase: :D
[09:24] <smizzle> hey
[09:24] <crimsun> Sean_: sudo umount /media/hda5 /media/hda1 /media/windows
[09:25] <frogzoo> reign: try this - add 'alias eth0 tulip' in /etc/modules.conf
[09:25] <zcat[1] > not that the grafiti artist will make much out of it after they recoup his advance on the spray paint..
[09:25] <Sean_> just did.... still nothin in the gui
[09:25] <crimsun> Sean_: mount|grep ntfs
[09:25] <cyphase> zcat[1] , good one :D
[09:25] <Sean_> now I can open hda1 and hda5, but it doen't show anything and all three have red x's on the folders
[09:26] <crimsun> Sean_: they're not unmounted then
[09:26] <crimsun> Sean_: what's the output from the ''mount|grep ntfs'' command now?
[09:26] <Sean_> /dev/hda1 on /media/windows type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[09:27] <zcat[1] > does 'umount -a -t ntfs' do anything?
[09:27] <crimsun> Sean_: sudo umount /media/windows
[09:27] <aftertaf> why not use seveas's automunt script guys?
[09:27] <crimsun> aftertaf: because we have to first fix the incorrect mount options used
[09:27] <Fujitsu> We really need to get that installer to configure NTFS partitions properly for Dapper, same with disks-admin
[09:27] <Fujitsu> disks-admin sucks.
[09:28] <cdubya> I followed the wiki instructions verbatim and it worked like a charm.
[09:28] <frogzoo> ping reign
[09:28] <cdubya> every time I boot the ntfs mounts ready....
[09:28] <Sean_> they are all unmountes
[09:28] <crimsun> Fujitsu: you're better off spending your resources in parted.
[09:28] <crimsun> Sean_: did you edit /etc/fstab?
[09:28] <Sean_> take them out of fstab as well?
[09:29] <crimsun> Sean_: if so, paste it onto pastebin
[09:29] <Fujitsu> What is wrong with parted? Parted won't help new users mount NTFS properly!
[09:29] <crimsun> Sean_: no, we'll need to fix what's wrong in /etc/fstab first
[09:29] <crimsun> Fujitsu: no, but it's relevant to manipulating ntfs partitions using libntfs.
[09:30] <Fujitsu> Perhaps.
[09:30] <Sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445910
[09:30] <Sean_> my current fstab
[09:30] <Fujitsu> All good, I think, Sean_...
[09:31] <Fujitsu> Admittedly I just used defaults,umask=0222, but that is just me.
[09:31] <crimsun> Sean_: did you really intend to mount /dev/hda5 over /dev/hda1's mountpoint?
[09:31] <Sean_> huh?
[09:31] <cdubya> yeah, I wondered about that....
[09:31] <frogzoo> Sean_: hda1 & hda5 have the SAME mount point /media/windows
[09:31] <crimsun> Fujitsu: those are the correct options.
[09:32] <Sean_> now fixed
[09:32] <Sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445911
[09:33] <Sean_> But even tryiong to access hda1  and hda5 from file browser said I had no permission
[09:33] <Sean_> as root owned it
[09:33] <crimsun> Sean_: now change the options for those two ntfs partitions to read defaults,umask=022,nls=utf8
[09:33] <aftertaf> Sean_:  you need to have read perms on the mountpoints too.
[09:34] <zcat[1] > Umm ? hda1 and hda5? You should be trying to access /media/windows or something, not the raw disks?
[09:34] <Sean_> well, how do I add read perm?
[09:34] <crimsun> zcat[1] : assuming /media/windows/hda[15]  exist, what he has is fine
[09:35] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. ok
[09:35] <Sean_> Soirry, I've stated this before but win user/linux noob
[09:35] <zcat[1] > /media/windows is a+rwx ?
[09:35] <crimsun> Sean_: do you have a 'users' group?
[09:35] <reign> Fujitsu, do you know more about the RTL8139 cards ?
[09:35] <zcat[1] > or something appropriately permissive?
[09:35] <Kayde> I am still having the same problems-=fuzzy screen at the botom of screen on 800x600
[09:35] <Fujitsu> reign, yes.
[09:35] <reign> i can put that card back in ?
[09:35] <reign> it also did the same
[09:36] <Kayde> i tried fixing, but not work
[09:36] <Fujitsu> reign, RTL8139s are what I use.
[09:36] <kestas> Kayde, have the problem on windows?
[09:36] <Kayde> i tried fixing, but not work
[09:36] <frogzoo> reign: think you need 'alias eth0 tulip' in /etc/modules.conf
[09:36] <Kayde> nope
[09:36] <Sean_> yes, I have a users group
[09:36] <kestas> Kayde, souonds like a driver problem
[09:36] <Kayde> no kesta
[09:36] <Sean_> all options are selected
[09:36] <Kayde> I mean yes
[09:36] <kestas> Kayde, do you know how to try vesa/vga driver?
[09:36] <Kayde> nope, im a newbi
[09:36] <crimsun> Sean_: ok. You can replace the entire "noauto,ro,..." string with just "umask=022,nls=utf8"
[09:37] <Sean_> done
[09:37] <kestas> Kayde, open a shell as root
[09:37] <kestas> sudo sh
[09:37] <kestas> no wait
[09:37] <kestas> even better
[09:37] <Sean_> will this make drives readable for all?\
[09:37] <crimsun> Sean_: and contents of fstab now?
[09:37] <kestas> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:38] <Kayde> i know hoe to open as root, but shell?
[09:38] <reign> frogzoo /etc/modules  ?
[09:38] <Kayde> i know hoe to open as root, but shell?
[09:38] <kestas> go down to where it says Driver in Section "Monitor"
[09:38] <kestas> and change Driver "blah" to Driver "vesa"
[09:38] <Kayde> ?
[09:38] <kestas> remember what blah is
[09:38] <Kayde> ...ok
[09:38] <Kayde> wat is the acess name?
[09:38] <kestas> access name?
[09:38] <Kayde> like... how do i get into it?
[09:39] <frogzoo> reign: add the line 'alias eth0 tulip' to /etc/modules.conf & retry modprobe
[09:39] <kestas> hoo boy
[09:39] <kestas> I dont have time for this, sorry
[09:39] <Kayde> u bet
[09:39] <Kayde> ok
[09:39] <Kayde> sry same said as well
[09:39] <Kayde> if u find goos site, email it 2 me
[09:39] <frogzoo> reign: or is it just /etc /modules these days?
[09:39] <reign> theres no /etc/modules.conf
[09:39] <Kayde> bashibazooka@gmail.com
[09:39] <reign> theres a /etc/modules
[09:40] <frogzoo> reign: yep, that will do - give it a go
[09:40] <Sean_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445915
[09:40] <Sean_> contents of fstab
[09:40] <Kayde> bashibazooka@gmail.com  email me good stuff on how we u get time :-)
[09:40] <Fujitsu> Just modules these days... What is the world coming too?
[09:40] <Fujitsu> *to
[09:40] <crimsun> Sean_: looks good. Now make sure /media/windows/hda1 and /media/windows/hda5 exist, then mount them
[09:41] <reign> ok added
[09:41] <frogzoo> rmmod tulip; modprobe tulip
[09:41] <reign> ok done
[09:41] <reign> nothing returned
[09:42] <reign> still no eth0
[09:42] <frogzoo> ifconfig eth0 up    ? no dice?
[09:43] <reign> nope
[09:43] <frogzoo> :(
[09:43] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[09:43] <Madeye> guys, i'm getting new laptop, so I'm little confused buyer now heh, which you think is best for ubuntu and linux in general? IBM thinkpad, Toshiba Satelite, Fujitsu siemens.
[09:43] <Sean_> well, I'll be damned...it worked
[09:43] <Fujitsu> Haha. A false beep...
[09:43] <Fujitsu> sean_, good!
[09:43] <crimsun> Madeye: thinkpads are excellent. I can vouch for the X41-2527
[09:43] <NoobieDoobieDo> Madeye, There is a website that covers Linux on Laptops
[09:43] <Sean_> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
[09:43] <cdubya> Sean_, cool
[09:43] <kestas> Madeye, Im using an Inspiron 2200, works great with 5.10 in every way
[09:43] <reign> ERROR while getting interface flags : no such device :(
[09:43] <Sean_> I think the main problem was that I never unmounted them
[09:44] <kestas> Madeye, not good for gaming though, the gfx card isnt good at 3D accel, but other than that its perfect
[09:44] <Sean_> Now I have to figure out how to install drivers and I'll be happy
[09:44] <crimsun> what drivers?
[09:44] <cdubya> Madeye, Toshiba Satellite A55, Breezy works great.
[09:44] <Madeye> kestas,  inspiron is dell, isn't it?
[09:44] <Fujitsu> Madeye, yes.
[09:44] <Orporg> Ok, I downloaded the ultimate boot CD and am now running Memtest 86+
[09:44] <Sean_> drivers for my vid card
[09:44] <oskude> Madeye, try these http://tuxmobil.org/     http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[09:44] <Fujitsu> Orporg, OK.
[09:45] <kestas> Madeye, yup but Ive found the support excellent unlike what you hear
[09:45] <zcat[1] > I'd expect an IBM to be good with linux.. also dell are usually good.
[09:45] <frogzoo> Fujitsu: - when does /etc /modules get read ? whenever a module loads, or at boot only?
[09:45] <Sean_> I also want to install programs....
[09:45] <kestas> I can C&P some support logs if you like, theyre very good
[09:45] <Orporg> But I don't know how to intepert the results
[09:45] <crimsun> Sean_: what video card?
[09:45] <aftertaf> Orporg:  if it says Argh! busted to helland back.... probably means not good ;)
[09:45] <Fujitsu> frogzoo, bootup I think, although I can't be sure. Most of my hardware Just Works(tm).
[09:45] <Fujitsu> Reboot just to be safe, I think.
[09:45] <Sean_> my nvidia 6600 gt
[09:45] <reign> ok ill erboot
[09:45] <frogzoo> reign: mebbe give it a reboot & x fingers
[09:45] <crimsun> Sean_: have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[09:46] <Fujitsu> Orporg, can you describe the results.
[09:46] <reign> kk
[09:46] <Madeye> kestas,  it's 12.1!
[09:46] <kestas> Madeye, whats 12.1?
[09:46] <Sean_> no
[09:46] <crimsun> Sean_: that page has links. Follow the instructions.
[09:46] <kestas> 12,100$?
[09:46] <Orporg> It's just running now.  Well, at the bottom half of the screen colmuns of numbers are running by.  It's white text on a red background
[09:46] <kestas> I got a tax rebate, so I got it cheap :)
[09:47] <TreeStump> hi
[09:47] <kestas> but Im not sure how the price compares
[09:47] <cdubya> I gotta call it a night. Good night everybody.
[09:47] <Madeye> kestas, screen
[09:47] <mrkoje> good night
[09:47] <kestas> Madeye, aah, well I also got it with a coupon for free 14" screen
[09:48] <zcat[1] > no idea where to even start tracking this down. If reinstalling all the packages doesn't work I AM going to reinstall ubuntu from scratch
[09:48] <TreeStump> did u install the drivers via synaptic?
[09:48] <Orporg> Is the red a Bad Thing?
[09:48] <kestas> Madeye, perhaps they still run the 14" coupon deal, not sure, you should be able to get it with 14" though
[09:49] <TreeStump> zcat[1] :did u install the drivers via synaptic?
[09:49] <zcat[1] > Yeah, but upgraded from hoary. nvidia broke, had to switch to nvidia-legacy and that's when glx stopped working
[09:49] <qt2> is 17k packages the standard amount for a "full" sources.list?
[09:50] <zcat[1] > I think I still have some of the old nvidia drivers and/or libs screwing stuff up..
[09:50] <reign> damn, rebooted, no such luck
[09:51] <iustin> where may i read about installing a .deb (i`m new to linux and the program i want is not in the repository)
[09:51] <frogzoo> reign: modinfo -p tulip
[09:52] <zcat[1] > what program? It's probably in multiverse or backports or something..
[09:52] <iustin> opera
[09:52] <reign> nothing returns
[09:52] <iustin> and heroes 3 (from 3do)
[09:52] <frogzoo> lsmod |grep tulip    ?
[09:53] <reign> tulip 45088 0
[09:53] <Orporg> Dudes?
[09:54] <frogzoo> reign: at this point, everything suggests the tulip driver doesn' t support the card I'd say
[09:54] <reign> oh great :/ heh
[09:54] <Fujitsu> reign, yes. There must be a driver for it _somewhere_...
[09:54] <reign> now, if i put in my RTL8139 card
[09:55] <Fujitsu> It will work fine.
[09:55] <reign> that card doesnt work either
[09:55] <frogzoo> reign: any better info on the h/w than what lspci can give? ie - pull the board
[09:55] <Fujitsu> RTL8139s work fine!!!!!
[09:55] <reign> Fujitsu, i know it's supposed to
[09:55] <reign> but it doesnt
[09:55] <frogzoo> reign: ooooh.... well that throws a different light on things
[09:55] <reign> i had warty on and it worked fine
[09:55] <Fujitsu> What chip, A, B, or C?
[09:55] <reign> C
[09:55] <reign> as far as i know
[09:55] <Fujitsu> It does throw a different light. Any other hardware not working?
[09:56] <reign> not that i know of so far ....
[09:56] <Fujitsu> Insert the 8139, and see what lspci tells us, and check if you have networking...
[09:56] <reign> i havent really checked for anything but the nic
[09:56] <reign> ok
[09:56] <reign> gimme a sec, need smoke break
[09:56] <reign> :
[09:56] <reign> :)
[09:58] <Orporg> Can someone give me a hand interperting the results of this memory test?
[09:59] <frogzoo> Orporg: usually it's just pass/fail
[09:59] <nauseaboy> hey folks
[10:00] <frogzoo> if error count != 0 - then you have a problem
[10:00] <Orporg> Yes, but the documentation for this program says that it runs indefinitely.  It won't give me a "pass/fail" result.
[10:00] <NoobieDoobieDo> hi nauseaboy
[10:00] <chapeaurouge> got an issue.. enabling Section        "Extensions"
[10:00] <chapeaurouge>       Option "Composite" "Enable"
[10:00] <chapeaurouge>  EndSection
[10:00] <chapeaurouge> , and X won't start.. signal 11
[10:00] <frogzoo> Orporg: just leave it run a few passes - no errors, then youe probly ok
[10:00] <nauseaboy> hows everyone doing
[10:01] <Orporg> The results I have here is as follows:  WallTime: 0:17:45.  Cached: 318M.  Test: Std.  Pass: 0.  Errors:173,000 roughly.
[10:01] <Fujitsu> Hi nauseaboy.
[10:01] <Orporg> I assume that's a very Bad Thing?
[10:01] <Fujitsu> Apparently.
[10:01] <Fujitsu> Quite a bad thing indeed!
[10:01] <Orporg> Shit
[10:01] <Fujitsu> It could be wrong, but maybe not.
[10:01] <frogzoo> Orporg: that suggests a slight problem, yes
[10:01] <Fujitsu> Have you tried booting with just one board of RAM?
[10:02] <frogzoo> Orporg: can you adjust the memory timings in bios?
[10:02] <Orporg> I can, yes.  I have it set to what I believe is "auto."
[10:02] <nauseaboy> that looks nasty
[10:02] <frogzoo> Orporg: would definately be trying just one stick
[10:02] <Fujitsu> Have you tried booting the machine in an OS other than Ubuntu Installer and MSDOs 6.22?
[10:03] <Fujitsu> Most definitely, the 128 appears to be the safest.
[10:03] <Orporg> I have this set in the BIOS: "Dram Timing by SPD: Enabled."
[10:03] <frogzoo> Orporg: don't worry about mem timings yet - just test 1 stick at a time
[10:03] <Orporg> All righty, let me crack this baby open.
[10:04] <Fujitsu> Good luck.
[10:04] <nauseaboy> and godspeed
[10:04] <Orporg> I yanked the stick that's double height
[10:05] <frogzoo> oh Fujitsu, it seems you specify irq's in /etc/modules like so 'options tulip irq=9'  - takes me back
[10:05] <crimsun> no, please don't do that.
[10:05] <crimsun> /etc/modules is the deprecated way
[10:05] <crimsun> you should use /etc/modprobe.d/tulip instead
[10:05] <frogzoo> crimsun: & the rec'dd way is?
[10:06] <crimsun> that file should contain the options line
[10:06] <frogzoo> ah i c, many thx
[10:06] <Orporg> I wonder if maybe this double height stick is PC-66 and doesn't like a 100Mhz bus....
[10:07] <valle> servus mander
[10:07] <alexander_> hallo
[10:07] <frogzoo> Orporg: surely this memory worked once upon a time?
[10:07] <valle> viva linuxkurs
[10:07] <alexander_> mmmmmmmm
[10:07] <valle> hey deftiges glied
[10:07] <alexander_> ja glied
[10:07] <johannes> servus
[10:07] <johannes> scheiss
[10:07] <alexander_> hallo
[10:07] <alexander_> merda
[10:07] <alexander_> pscht
[10:07] <johannes> i geh iats frozen bubble
[10:07] <intelikey> hmmm deprecated=the way people have learned to do things,  :/
[10:07] <frogzoo> !de
[10:07] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:07] <defftigesGlied> get in di mando net af die eier
[10:07] <reign> well, cant get my rtl8139 card right now, it's in another pc
[10:08] <frogzoo> reign: do you know the irq for the card?  maybe try 'options tulip irq=9' or similiar
[10:08] <reign> irq 10
[10:08] <johannes> \join #esfbrixen
[10:08] <Orporg> It did.  But this machine is cobbled togther from multiple dead relics.  I can't be 100% sure of most of its origins
[10:08] <valle> \join #esfbrixen
[10:08] <intelikey> !  \ = /
[10:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, intelikey
[10:09] <valle> servus mander
[10:09] <frogzoo> crimsun: points out these config lines belong in /etc/modules.d/tulip - not /etc/mocules
[10:09] <frogzoo> reign: what I just wrote
[10:09] <intelikey>  /join #esfbrixen
[10:09] <reign> frogzoo theers no /etc/modules.d
[10:09] <reign> theres a modprobe.d
[10:10] <frogzoo> reign: sry /etc/modprobe.d/tulip
[10:10] <reign> but not modprobe.d/tulip
[10:10] <crimsun> create /etc/modprobe.d/tulip
[10:10] <reign> ok
[10:10] <mrkoje> whats a good proxy server?
[10:11] <reign> ok and in the file i put ?
[10:11] <intelikey>  localhost.localdomain
[10:11] <frogzoo> reign echo -e 'alias eth0 tulip\noptions tulip irq=10' > /etc/modprobe.d/tulip
[10:11] <qt2> o.o;
[10:12] <Fujitsu> mrkoje: squid
[10:12] <reign> ok done
[10:12] <frogzoo> mrkoje: apache does the job adequately too for a small setup
[10:13] <frogzoo> reign: now reboot I guess
[10:13] <penguinzdr> does amaroK have cause problems in GNOME?
[10:13] <reign> k rebooting..
[10:14] <Orporg> Hot damn!  The installer came up!
[10:14] <mrkoje> frogzoo: I didn't know I could use apache as a proxy
[10:14] <mrkoje> frogzoo: I might have to read into that...   will look into squid too.
[10:14] <Fujitsu> Orporg: Good!
[10:14] <Orporg> You folks rock!  Thank you!
[10:15] <mrkoje> frogzoo: What I am looking at doing is just setting up a simple proxy so my ssh group can can create a tunnel with putty and route web traffic to client computers
[10:15] <Orporg> Now I just hope I can get my wireless card to work....
[10:15] <frogzoo> mrkoje: there's a proxy module for apache - disable by default
[10:15] <Orporg> Wireless ESSID.....
[10:15] <Fujitsu> Orporg, it should work.
[10:16] <frogzoo> Fujitsu: testing the memory was someone else's idea - can't member whose though
[10:16] <Orporg> It wants a wireless ESSID.  I have WEP enabled, could that hose things?
[10:17] <frogzoo> Orporg: maybe you want gtkwifi   ?
[10:17] <frogzoo> oh, dumb idea - youe only installing so far
[10:17] <Orporg> Gtkwifi?
[10:17] <reign> no luck frogzoo
[10:17] <frogzoo> ok, not happy :(
[10:17] <frogzoo> damn
[10:19] <Fujitsu_dinner> Orporg, it is all easily accessible from the GNOME network configuration tool.
[10:19] <Fujitsu_dinner> WEP is fine, easy to set up.
[10:20] <Orporg> Is there any way to find my ESSID through Windows or my iBook?
[10:20] <Orporg> Nevermind.  I'd have to change my WEP key anyways as I don't have it written down.
[10:21] <frogzoo> reign: usually I'd suggest another card, only we know that won't help
[10:21] <reign> yeah, it's strange that the 8139 card works in warty but not breezy
[10:21] <reign> or at least on my pc
[10:22] <Orporg> I read that the Ubuntu community was the main strongpoint of the distro.  I can see why.
[10:22] <frogzoo> reign: do you know the io address ?
[10:22] <reign> hmm no
[10:22] <Orporg> You have my deepest gratitude
[10:22] <crimsun> Orporg: depending on the filesystem, yes. You can use ext2fsd, for instance, to mount your /
[10:24] <frogzoo> reign: I think that line might supposed to be 'options tulip io=0x6100,0x6200  irq=10' give it a go maybe
[10:24] <reign> ok
[10:24] <Orporg> Wow, this installer is better than the DOS installer....
[10:24] <aftertaf> Orporg:  you're on your way now ?? its working? cool :)
[10:25] <Orporg> Well.... it was formatting my hard drive.  And now it's sitting at a blue and gray screen.  I assume it's thinking about something.  I hope.
[10:25] <zcat[1] > ubuntu's installer needs work. it's pretty ugly
[10:26] <Orporg> But the hard drive is making a weird... clicking noise.  Like a monitor switching on and off.
[10:26] <Orporg> Ugly, schmugly.  The installer works.  That's what matters.
[10:26] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : short of disaster, you see it exactly once, when you first install... pretty installers shouldn't be a priority...
[10:26] <reign> rebooting
[10:27] <Mabus06> does anyone know how to put "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shorcut? I tried putting it in the "command" part of the shortcut, but it does not work. It only works if I type it in the terminal manually.
[10:28] <tristan> Mabus06 : can't you put it in bash_aliases?
[10:28] <Mabus06> huh, tristan ?
[10:28] <tristan> I assume you launch the doom3 either with terminal or with the menu, right?
[10:29] <Orporg> Isn't GNOME going to run like a dead snail with only 256 megs of memory?
[10:29] <zcat[1] > do bash aliases do anything to gui shortcuts?
[10:29] <frogzoo> Orporg: the 1gig celly is also a problem
[10:29] <sean_> Hi,
[10:30] <tristan> I think that if he lauch doom3 by typing doom3 in terminal he could modify bash_aliases to make it : alias doom3='doom3 +set s_driver oss'
[10:30] <tristan> Else he could modify the shortcut using smeg, no?
[10:30] <Mabus06> Just the terminal, tristan. If I link to it via a shortcut (like in the menu), the sound does not work.
[10:30] <zcat[1] > he doesn't want to type it in a terminal though..
[10:30] <reign> heh, still no luck frogzoo
[10:31] <quitte> what is the latest ubuntu?
[10:31] <frogzoo> reign: now's a good time to pull the card & read the part numbers on the chipset
[10:31] <ptlo> quitte, Breezy Badger (5.10)
[10:31] <quitte> ptlo thanks
[10:31] <zcat[1] > frogzoo: isn't lspci easier?
[10:32] <quitte> ptlo uhm is that unstable?
[10:32] <tristan> Mabus06 : if you modify the command unsing smeg it doesn't work?
[10:32] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : does lspci just pull the strings from the bios? or does it interpret ?
[10:32] <ptlo> quitte, no, that's stable and supported release
[10:33] <frogzoo> ie does it 'guess' what the hardware is ?
[10:33] <quitte> ptlo what is unstable?
[10:33] <ptlo> quitte, current unstable version is called Dapper Drake
[10:33] <quitte> ptlo ok thanks a lot
[10:33] <intelikey> Mabus06 ' echo "doom3 +set s_driver oss" > start.doom ;chmod 7 start.doom '  and make your shortcut to start.doom
[10:33] <zcat[1] > umm.. not sure.
[10:34] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : k, cos Im not sure I trust lspci completely
[10:34] <ptlo> quitte, np. btw dapper is highly unstable at this point and you shouldn't try it unless you're willing to devote much time & energy to development :) dapper (6.04) will be released in april 2006
[10:34] <zcat[1] > it's never let me down yet :)
[10:34] <tristan> Btw, anyone has trouble with smeg? As for me I cannot run it as myself and need to be root and it doesn't apply the modification even though it appears saved when I relaunch smeg
[10:35] <quitte> ptlo: i just want the xorg sources of it
[10:35] <zcat[1] > smeg edits the kde menus? it might not do anything if you're using gnome..
[10:35] <ptlo> quitte, why?
[10:35] <ptlo> rumors go, x.org in dapper is currently pretty broken (or was a day or two ago)
[10:35] <reign> frogzoo : thats a lspci of it -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/445864
[10:36] <quitte> ptlo i hope it is already fully modularized. im trying to port debian to sh3 and monolithic is too big to handle on such a slow system
[10:36] <tristan> smeg edit also the gnom menu I think
[10:36] <Fujitsu> reign, how ar you going?
[10:37] <reign> bad dude :/
[10:37] <reign> i can get the rtl8139 card back in a bit
[10:37] <ptlo> quitte, x.org 7 should be fully modularized, use autotools and other good stuff, yeah
[10:37] <frogzoo> wow - pastebin is totally slow - dunno if that a good or bad sign
[10:37] <syndicate> can someone help me to install opera? i've downloaded the .deb package  ubuntu onto the desktop. when i run apt-get install opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[10:37] <syndicate>  from the desktop as root it says E: Couldn't find package opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[10:37] <syndicate> ?
[10:38] <quitte> ptlo great. so dragon uses xorg7 finally?
[10:38] <Fujitsu> syndicate: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[10:38] <syndicate> thanks Fujitsu
[10:38] <Fujitsu> No problem, syndicate.
[10:38] <ptlo> quitte yes
[10:39] <ptlo> quitte, btw the community is still not decided if it's a duck or a dragon, and mark is keeping his mouth sealed :)
[10:39] <intelikey> syndicate 'dpkg -i file.deb '
[10:39] <intelikey> oh Fujitsu hehhe i didn't see your post...
[10:39] <frogzoo> reign: dmesg |grep eth0    ?
[10:40] <Fujitsu> Heheh
[10:40] <Orporg> Thank you guys.  I'll log off now.  Can I come back if I run into any more problems?
[10:40] <reign> frogzoo: k sec
[10:40] <frogzoo> Orporg: there's always someone here
[10:41] <Orporg> Gracias
[10:41] <intelikey> Orporg no this is a one time deal
[10:41] <quitte> ptlo should be duck imho. dragon makes me think of kde
[10:41] <frogzoo> lol intelikey
[10:41] <reign> nothing at all frogzoo
[10:41] <intelikey> he was gone anyway.....
[10:42] <syndicate> now i've got two dependency problems (e.g. Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[10:42] <syndicate> ) Any chance of 'automatically' updating these?
[10:42] <ptlo> quitte http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/127-Dapper-Drake-Duck-or-Dragon.html ;-)
[10:42] <Fujitsu> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[10:43] <syndicate> thanks again
[10:43] <tristan> So, nobody has trouble with smeg xcept me
[10:44] <intelikey> how about a noobie snack ?
[10:44] <vhaarr> I'm having some problems with my wireless card in Dapper. I've read countless pages on the wiki and ubuntuforums.org, but they all assume that the 'wlan0' interface actually exists. Mine doesn't.
[10:44] <syndicate> it's complaining again that it can't find the file. very strange as the file is definately in that directory
[10:44] <vhaarr> The card is listed in lspci, lshal, etc, though.
[10:45] <intelikey> !tell syndicate about repos
[10:45] <Fujitsu> Who was offering the noobie?
[10:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> hah.
[10:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> How about bringing me a Doobie ?
[10:45] <Fujitsu> Perhaps.
[10:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> Perhaps I`ll be here.
[10:46] <frogzoo> reign: what mobo is this on, btw ?
[10:46] <intelikey>  NoobieDoobieDo [n=NoobieDo@adsl-69-151-247-41.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net]  has joined  <----<intelikey> how about a noobie snack ?
[10:46] <NoobieDoobieDo> What snack are you offering ?
[10:46] <syndicate> thanks intelikey
[10:47] <intelikey> !tell NoobieDoobieDo about root
[10:47] <intelikey> there
[10:47] <syndicate> !tell syndicate about root
[10:48] <NoobieDoobieDo> why are you telling me this
[10:48] <intelikey> cause you didn't catch the pun eariler.
[10:49] <tiglionabbit> noobiedoobiedoo, where are you, we've got some work to do now.  Oh when we've got a mystery to solve oh noobiedoo get ready for your act, don't hold back.  Because you know when you come through you're gonna have yourself a noobie snack-- that's a fact!
[10:50] <intelikey> i kinda figure if a guy has to explain his joke more than once, he might as well change the subject....  anyone for a smoke ?
[10:50] <frogzoo> reign: what turns up in dmesg when the tulip driver loads?
[10:51] <reign> frogzoo : it's a GA 7IXE4 F7 board
[10:51] <RancidLM> any one here get gtkpod cvs working in ubuntu ?
[10:52] <mrkoje> intelikey: on my way...
[10:52] <reign> and erm, nothing turns up
[10:52] <reign> with dmesg
[10:52] <intelikey> :)
[10:52] <reign> i just shut it down and changed the slot
[10:52] <reign> although i doubt thats going to help
[10:52] <frogzoo> reign: dmesg doesn't report the tulip driver at all?
[10:53] <frogzoo> modprobe tulip - then dmesg
[10:53] <reign> k sedc
[10:54] <reign> whats it dmesg |grep tulip ?
[10:54] <intelikey> eth
[10:54] <frogzoo> reign: actually, I want it all - best is 'dmesg | less' then use '/ to search on ulip
[10:55] <reign> so.. dmesg | less /A tulip ?
[10:55] <frogzoo> dmesg | less
[10:55] <intelikey> the / is the search key in less
[10:55] <reign> ok then
[10:55] <reign> oh i see
[10:56] <reign> pattern not found
[10:56] <intelikey> less is more than more, cause; well more is less than less.
[10:56] <frogzoo> insmod tulip ; dmesg
[10:56] <frogzoo> more should be taken and shot :)
[10:57] <flankk> less is more or less more ;P
[10:57] <reign> hmm
[10:57] <reign> insmod cant raed 'tulip'
[10:57] <reign> no such file or dir
[10:57] <intelikey> actually i don't know why ub uses more.    ln -s more less   or   alias more=less
[10:57] <frogzoo> ahah
[10:58] <drumline> I hate more
[10:58] <drumline> less is better
[10:58] <drumline> more or less
[10:58] <intelikey> i think i just said that.
[10:58] <frogzoo> locate tulip.o
[10:58] <reign> nothing
[10:59] <reign> theres a tulip.ko
[10:59] <frogzoo> peeps is there a tulip package  - can someone pls check ?
[10:59] <intelikey> apt-cache search tulip
[11:00] <reign> /libmodules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/tulip.ko
[11:00] <reign> / before modules
[11:01] <frogzoo> ok, this is wierd - you have the module but can't install it ... that a real file, not a symlink?
[11:01] <intelikey> ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/tulip.ko
[11:02] <Raskall> will a server machine with a 64-bit AMD Sempron 2800+ cpu 1.6 GHz give lower, same, or higher performance with 64-but ubuntu than a 32-bit pentium 4 3GHz system?
[11:03] <Raskall> (oh, the disk on the new system is SATA-150 7200 RPMS, while the disk on the old P4-system has 5400 IDE disk)
[11:03] <sethk> Raskall, impossible to answer in general, since it depends on what you do, but in most cases the 3 ghz system will kill it.
[11:03] <Raskall> s/but/bit/
[11:03] <sethk> Raskall, but 5400 is important for disk intensive apps
[11:03] <sethk> Raskall, but you can always put the better drive into the p4 system.
[11:03] <Raskall> sethk: the server is samba file/print for 5 users plus webserver for 15 virtual apaches with an average of 100 page loads a day
[11:03] <reign> the real tulip.ko file is in /net/tulip/ ?
[11:04] <sethk> Raskall, then both of those machines are many times more powerful than necessary
[11:04] <Raskall> sethk: the problem is that my current server (the p4) is borrowed and I have to return it. I have ordered the other system.
[11:04] <Raskall> for replacement
[11:04] <[gen2] Niki> anyone has good guides for learning modelling
[11:04] <sethk> Raskall, it should be more than adequate
[11:04] <[gen2] Niki> and any idea if theres good open soruce software for that?
[11:04] <frogzoo> ls -lL /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/tulip.ko
[11:05] <sethk> [gen2] Niki, all the software modeling things in the universe (not just in linux) stink
[11:05] <JohnCope> hi all
[11:05] <reign> yeah that returns a file
[11:05] <Raskall> sethk: hope so. The only difference between the two is that I probably occasionally will use the server as a workstation too
[11:05] <sethk> [gen2] Niki, not that I'm opinionated or anything.  :)
[11:05] <sethk> Raskall, you've got plenty of headroom, I wouldn't sweat it.
[11:05] <[gen2] Niki> ah
[11:05] <tyler_> whats the best p2p software for ubunut?
[11:05] <tyler_> ubuntu*
[11:05] <[gen2] Niki> do i have a choice if i want to try ait anyways?
[11:05] <[gen2] Niki> ^
[11:06] <reign> ubernut :D
[11:06] <tyler_> hehe
[11:06] <sethk> [gen2] Niki, I don't know of anything worthwhile in linux.
[11:06] <Raskall> sethk: I know.. I was just curious if I was trading down or gaining performance with my new server.
[11:06] <JohnCope> i've installed ubuntu 5.10 (great work!!); totem can't play any video format; witch packets do i have to install?
[11:06] <crimsun> JohnCope: "any" is rather extreme
[11:06] <crimsun> JohnCope: surely you can play at least a few?
[11:07] <JohnCope> crimsun, mpg can't for sure :)
[11:08] <frogzoo> reign: oh, my bad 'insmod tulip'
[11:09] <crimsun> JohnCope: you probably want to install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[11:09] <frogzoo> reign: no, scratch that - already done
[11:09] <reign> hehe
[11:10] <[gen2] Niki> how to correctly configure ubuntu nivida drivers!?!
[11:10] <[gen2] Niki> i given correectr syncs into the number
[11:10] <[gen2] Niki> but gnome still doesnt fit to the monitor
[11:10] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: "correectr syncs into the number"?
[11:10] <intelikey> !nvidia
[11:10] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:10] <[gen2] Niki> wth do you mean?
[11:10] <sean_> All I want to do is copy and paste files within the file structure, but I don't have permission....
[11:11] <[gen2] Niki> i configured like i did it on gentoo
[11:11] <JohnCope> crimsun, thank a lot :)
[11:11] <[gen2] Niki> wth is wrong with that
[11:11] <[gen2] Niki> gentoo is alot easier to configure =/8
[11:11] <sean_> how do I give myself permission as I can't login as root
[11:11] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: this isn't Gentoo. What do you mean by "correectr syncs into the number"?
[11:11] <crimsun> that just doesn't make any sense at all.
[11:11] <[gen2] Niki> misstype
[11:11] <[gen2] Niki> freak
[11:11] <[gen2] Niki> i said
[11:12] <[gen2] Niki> i entered the correct monitor sync numbers in the config -.-
[11:12] <tyler_> ubuntu*
[11:12] <tyler_> whats the best p2p software for ubunut?
[11:12] <crimsun> where in the cofig?
[11:12] <crimsun> config^
[11:12] <[gen2] Niki> x.org config -.-
[11:12] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: so paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:12] <intelikey> you mean xorg.conf
[11:13] <[gen2] Niki> iam on windows currently.
[11:13] <[gen2] Niki> for gaming
[11:13] <crimsun> ok, so when you return in Ubuntu, paste them onto that Web site.
[11:13] <[gen2] Niki> another annoying shit
[11:13] <[gen2] Niki> i sometime need ssh and so on
[11:13] <[gen2] Niki> so i installed it
[11:13] <[gen2] Niki> and ubuntu put everything in autostart
[11:14] <cosimo321> morning all
[11:14] <[gen2] Niki> it takes centurys now -.-
[11:14] <_max_> Having some problems with 5.10, iv just installed it, configured proxy etc, i uncommented the stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list and ran 'apt-get update' but i get (111 connection refused) from all the hits.
[11:14] <cosimo321> has anyone here used polypaudio?
[11:14] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: you mean sshd?
[11:14] <crimsun> cosimo321: yes
[11:14] <frogzoo> reign: can you paste lspci here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:14] <cosimo321> crimsun how did it go for you?
[11:14] <[gen2] Niki> yes
[11:14] <[gen2] Niki> sshd
[11:14] <reign> ok
[11:14] <crimsun> cosimo321: fares better than esd on this machine but certain doesn't work across all arches.
[11:15] <cosimo321> That's what i found I like the sound it had but it pretty much screwed up other things
[11:15] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: simply starting sshd inflates your boot time drastically? That's pretty difficult to believe.
[11:15] <cosimo321> is there a workaround for some the problems?
[11:15] <crimsun> cosimo321: what sort of problems?
[11:15] <cosimo321> I found that it would not play sound in some apps
[11:15] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: a more explicit quantification would really help
[11:16] <[gen2] Niki> eh crimsun
[11:16] <cosimo321> had problems with totem-xine as i recall
[11:16] <[gen2] Niki> many other deamons too
[11:16] <cosimo321> also midi
[11:16] <[gen2] Niki> like wesnoth and so on and so on
[11:16] <[gen2] Niki> -.-
[11:16] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: wait, so sshd is just one in a line of culprits, correct?
[11:17] <frogzoo> reign: URL ?
[11:17] <[gen2] Niki> culprits?
[11:17] <sean_> Is there a way to make it so I as a user can do anything as long as it prompts me for root password?
[11:17] <reign> frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5292
[11:17] <crimsun> [gen2] Niki: what's not clear?
[11:17] <[gen2] Niki> *opens english <-> german dic"
[11:19] <reign> Subsystem: Accton Technology Corporation: Unknown device 1216
[11:19] <reign> :(
[11:22] <sethk> reign, it isn't in the PCI number to name translation table in the kernel.
[11:22] <lig> I am very new to ubuntu (actually anything linux) and have installed it on my laptop.  I want to get my wireless card working and have been following this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto .  All has gone well so far but I now am hitting a wall at step 6 "make deb".  I get an error while it is running.  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5293 you can see everything that is displayed after i try to run the "make".  I am unsure exac
[11:22] <lig> tly what is causing the problem. Any hints, links or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
[11:23] <reign> so basically it's not mapped to a device type ?
[11:23] <crimsun> pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl is having mysql problems, apparently
[11:23] <sethk> lig, I get an error trying to view that page.  Put it on a different pastebot
[11:23] <sethk> crimsun, yes, I see the same thing.
[11:23] <lig> sethk, k
[11:24] <frogzoo> well reign, it's definately NOT a driver problem - read this post here http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=52 - show's your card works with tulip on 5.10 - so its something else
[11:24] <sethk> reign, the kernel doesn't know what it is, so it can't map it.
[11:24] <stock> anyone in here know if xen has stability issues at all?
[11:24] <sethk> reign, but it may not actually mean anything
[11:24] <sethk> reign, because there is a table used by lspci, and it isn't necessarily as up to date as the one used by the kernel
[11:24] <lig> new pastebin - http://pastebin.com/445970
[11:25] <sethk> reign, so what I said first may be wrong.  It only means that lspci doesn't know what it is.
[11:25] <reign> k
[11:25] <reign> reading post sec
[11:25] <crimsun> lig: the problem is in the debian/control file
[11:25] <sethk> lig, looks like you are building on an amd64 but using an i386 package and it is barfing on that, although it shouldn't
[11:26] <reign> oh yeah i read that frogzoo
[11:26] <frogzoo> reign: right at the bottom - so were back to where the other card wouldnt work either
[11:26] <reign> so if it's not a driver problem, what could it posibally be ?
[11:26] <sethk> lig, although if there happens to be an amd64 version, use it.
[11:26] <frogzoo> reign: heres what to do - do a clean boot - then post the whole dmesg
[11:27] <sethk> reign, the card is not recognized by the O/S?  What do you see?
[11:27] <sethk> reign, frogzoo has a good suggestion, do that to avoid some confusion
[11:27] <frogzoo> sethk ifconfig eth0 up fails
[11:27] <sethk> frogzoo, I'd run the admin/network dialog and see if the thing is recognized, as a first step, I think.
[11:28] <sethk> frogzoo, although of course dmesg will tell you that if you know how to read it, but I'm not sure lig does.
[11:28] <frogzoo> sethk insmod tulip fails too...
[11:28] <sethk> frogzoo, that's odd.  Using a stock kernel?
[11:28] <frogzoo> sethk and there no mention of tulip in dmesg neither - bad
[11:28] <crimsun> lig: it's actually straightforward to fix
[11:28] <onispawn> does anyone know the command to get rid of the reserved space for the super user on a filesystem?
[11:28] <sethk> frogzoo, if it never sees the card, then yes, that's bad news.
[11:28] <frogzoo> sethk: good question - reign - this breezy stock kernel?
[11:28] <sethk> onispawn, you don't want to do that.
[11:29] <onispawn> sethk: yes I do
[11:29] <sethk> onispawn, no, you don't.
[11:29] <reign> yeah standard install from newly recieved breezy badger cd
[11:29] <frogzoo> onispawn: u want tunefs
[11:29] <sethk> onispawn, why in the world do you think you do?
[11:29] <crimsun> lig: use your text editor of choice to change the Architecture: line in debian/control for the ndiswrapper-utils package to read "i386 amd64"
[11:29] <onispawn> sethk: because Im doing something special
[11:29] <frogzoo> sethk on big disks, the 5% overhead is a bit much
[11:29] <onispawn> frogzoo:thanks
[11:29] <reign> ill brb , smoke
[11:29] <crimsun> lig: then rebuild it
[11:29] <sethk> frogzoo, dangerous to reduce it.
[11:30] <frogzoo> even on a 200GB disk? really ?
[11:30] <sethk> frogzoo, if metadata operations run out of space seriously nasty things will happen.
[11:30] <sethk> frogzoo, I think so, yes.  For one thing the space needed by a full fsck is proportional to the size of the partition.
[11:30] <bob_4_a_day> what is we setting with tune2fs ?
[11:30] <frogzoo> sethk: but how big are these ops, not 10GB at a time, surely?
[11:31] <reign> btw, using the live cd, fails to find a driver too
[11:31] <reign> brb
[11:31] <lampshade> How do you use wap with the live cd?
[11:31] <crimsun> lampshade: do you mean WPA?
[11:31] <sethk> frogzoo, that's hard to answer as it depends on the actual state of the file system.  But if you have 190 gigs of data, 10 gigs of scratch for an fsck is certainly not obviously too large
[11:31] <tyler_> whats the best p2p software for ubunut?
[11:31] <lampshade> or for that matter with iwconfig?  is it even possible?  and yes WPA.  I assume it is possible but the manpage just speaks about wep
[11:32] <bob_4_a_day> oh the percent reserved ?
[11:32] <crimsun> lampshade: you'll have to install the wpasupplicant package
[11:32] <bob_4_a_day> heh i set that to 1% on everything
[11:32] <lampshade> crimsun: so not possible with live cd.. :(
[11:32] <bob_4_a_day> or even 0% on some things
[11:32] <crimsun> lampshade: no, because wpasupplicant is a universe package
[11:32] <sethk> frogzoo, Certainly, I would never reduce it unless for some odd reason I absolutely positively have to have that space and can't clean anything old out.
[11:33] <frogzoo> sethk: iirc the manpage for tunefs mentions that 5% might be overkill for large file systems
[11:33] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, dangerous.  Do you really have all your file systems 95%+ full?
[11:33] <sethk> frogzoo, might.  Might means might not.
[11:33] <lampshade> that's kinda silly actually, that's such a huge feature to have missing from a livecd :(  yar.  Why is it universe?  GPL issues or Ubuntu people haven't had time to get it into the main repos or?
[11:33] <frogzoo> point taken
[11:33] <sethk> frogzoo, and unless you are at 100% full, why reduce it?
[11:33] <bob_4_a_day> sethk it seems to me it would only be dangerous it i did
[11:34] <tyler_> whats the best p2p software for ubunut?
[11:34] <frogzoo> azureus emule
[11:34] <sethk> lampshade, I imagine the latter, support for the newer encryption standard is fairly recent.
[11:34] <crimsun> lampshade: because wpasupplicant has only recently begun to be anything close to stable.
[11:34] <frogzoo> *amule*
[11:34] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, but there's absolutely no justification for doing it when you don't need to.  And when you do need to, it's dangerous.  ==> don't do it.
[11:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hi all what is this cannot determine eth dst addr
[11:35] <matrix-ubuntu-c> possibly missing arp cache entry
[11:35] <bob_4_a_day> ah "want to" is all the justification i need sethk,  it is my box after all :)
[11:36] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, sure, but don't advise other people to do it.
[11:36] <bob_4_a_day> same reason for not having swap
[11:36] <frogzoo> aaarghhh... no swap
[11:36] <onispawn> haha. anyways thanks for the info
[11:36] <bob_4_a_day> sethk ok.   and you don't tell them not to.
[11:36] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, I will tell them not to, because I have a reason.
[11:36] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, and it is not the same as not having swap
[11:37] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, you can add swap as a regular file in the file system if necessary.
[11:37] <bob_4_a_day> then if they are asking how to then i will tell them how because i have a reason
[11:37] <frogzoo> bob_4_a_day: as long as you let them know its not recommended - but sethk has a point
[11:37] <tyler_> whats the best p2p software for ubunut?
[11:37] <frogzoo> tyler_: azureus + amule
[11:37] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, ok.  But mucking around with file system metadata with no good reason is a sure way to get into trouble.
[11:38] <Br|ce> gnome-torrent
[11:38] <bob_4_a_day> frogzoo i didn't say he didn't.
[11:38] <tyler_> is amule p2p or torrent
[11:38] <Br|ce> tyler_: torrent is indeed p2p
[11:38] <frogzoo> tyler_: amule is p2p
[11:38] <tyler_> frogzoo, thansk
[11:38] <reign> k im back
[11:39] <reign> any ideas ,frogzoo,sethk
[11:39] <bob_4_a_day> "a sure way to get into trouble"  that is your opinion.  i do not agree with it.   i have never had trubble on an ext2/3 fs with the reserve set to 1%    have you ?
[11:39] <frogzoo> reign: that the live cd wont detect is majorly interesting - reboot & post complete dmesg will be interesting
[11:39] <reign> so reboot, then jus dmesg ?
[11:39] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, surely you realize that you never having had trouble with it is meaningless.  How many years have you run your ext2/3 partitions?
[11:39] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, not that it matters, really.
[11:40] <frogzoo> reign: dmesg > /tmp/a - then paste /tmp/a yup
[11:40] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, and, no, if you research it, you'll see that "sure way to get into trouble" is not my opinion, it's a fact.
[11:40] <reign> ok
[11:40] <bob_4_a_day> if you have tested and you have trubble then you have a point, otherwise    meh
[11:40] <frogzoo> sethk: bob_4_a_day I think the point is that most of the time, you want need that 4%, so why free it up anyway?
[11:41] <frogzoo> *wont*
[11:41] <bob_4_a_day> frogzoo i agree.
[11:41] <rbanson> hello
[11:41] <frogzoo> then once your disk is 95% full, you have to ask yourself if the risk is worth it
[11:42] <sethk> frogzoo, once it is 95% full, not once it reports 95% full.  :)
[11:42] <IRCMonkey999> will firefox 1.5 not be available until 2006 april?
[11:42] <frogzoo> lol
[11:44] <IRCMonkey999> why cant i see am or pm in my system tray clock?
[11:44] <frogzoo> probably though a disk that is over 95% full will start having fragmentation problems I would think
[11:44] <matrix-ubuntu-c> possibly missing arp cache entry why i get this error
[11:45] <bob_4_a_day> besides that if it is a root process that fills the hd it ignores the reserve anyway.
[11:45] <bob_4_a_day> it is reserved for 'root'
[11:45] <frogzoo> bob_4_a_day: so dont run your daemons as root :)
[11:46] <Jerka^> Ok, here's a newbie question. If I type "program x" in a terminal, program x starts, but it occupies the terminal window so I can't use it again until I exit program x. I know there's some way to avoid this, but how?
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> yeah like 'dont install as root' isn't it ?
[11:46] <frogzoo> Jerka^: nohup program &
[11:47] <IRCMonkey999> why am i unable to see am, pm on my system tray clock? this happens only in my login
[11:47] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hi all what is this cannot determine eth dst addr possibly missing arp cache entry
[11:47] <bob_4_a_day> Jerka^ or 'openvt -- program x ' and let it have another controlling vt
[11:48] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: pls describe your network hardware configiration
[11:48] <Jerka^> OK, thanks guys.
[11:48] <matrix-ubuntu-c> my network is usin pppoe internet connection
[11:48] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: did you run pppoeconf    ?
[11:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> yes i am surfin
[11:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> but when i run a software i get that message
[11:49] <frogzoo> which program?
[11:49] <matrix-ubuntu-c> nmap
[11:50] <dpupp> is there 1 media player that does it all and does it good? dvd playback and encoded media with dual audio tracks and subtitles? ....
[11:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$ arp -a
[11:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> matrix@ubuntu:~$
[11:51] <matrix-ubuntu-c> why arp -a shows nothing
[11:51] <IRCMonkey999> dpupp: i think vlc + all plugins, or mplayer...
[11:52] <dpupp> the only thing i can think of is VLC. i got VLC... plugins? as in win32? or are there more than just that?
[11:52] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe i just checked the tuning on this / fs and noticed it is one of the ones that i set the reserve = 0% on  :)    Reserved blocks uid:      0 (user root)
[11:52] <reign> frogzoo, sorry it's taking long, gotta put a damn flash disk in to get the file
[11:52] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: tell dpupp about media formats
[11:52] <frogzoo> reign: cool
[11:53] <soundray> I received my Ubuntu CDs today. Waited circa three weeks. Very nice: each install-live pair is in a cardboard sleeve.
[11:53] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: tell dpupp about restricted formats
[11:54] <IRCMonkey999> why cant i see AM, PM on my system clock? anyone have this problem?
[11:54] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: whats the command youe using to start nmap?
[11:54] <tyler_> how do i install video codecs in ubuntu?
[11:55] <frogzoo> !tell tyler_ about restricted mpeg dvd
[11:55] <tyler_> frogzoo, i didn't get a tell.
[11:55] <frogzoo> tyler_: you need to authenticate to nickserv
[11:55] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, set it to 24 hours. That way, there can be no mistake, and you're conforming to international open standards.
[11:55] <raphink> !codecs
[11:55] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:56] <tyler_> frogzoo, ok
[11:56] <raphink> !w32codecs
[11:56] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:56] <tyler_> frogzoo, how do i do that, im used to gamesurge
[11:56] <frogzoo> !restricted mpeg dvd
[11:56] <ubotu> frogzoo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:56] <raphink> hmm seems ubotu is in vacation
[11:56] <frogzoo> !dvd
[11:56] <ubotu> I heard dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[11:56] <frogzoo> !mpeg
[11:56] <ubotu> frogzoo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:56] <frogzoo> !restricted
[11:56] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:56] <raphink> ubotu: hello
[11:56] <ubotu> what's up
[11:56] <aftertaf>  /msg ubotu
[11:56] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: but why cant i see AM or PM in 12 hour format. This is only in my login, in other logins its fine.... :(
[11:56] <tyler_> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[11:57] <tyler_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:57] <tyler_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:57] <tyler_>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> !paste
[11:57] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:57] <tyler_> ok, sry
[11:57] <frogzoo> tyler_: you need to download the file first
[11:57] <aftertaf> bob_4_a_day:  w00t?
[11:57] <tyler_> frogzoo, im stupid, thanks
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> aftertaf ?
[11:58] <frogzoo> tyler_: 1st time for everyone
[11:58] <aftertaf> bob_4_a_day:  are you root?
[11:58] <tyler_> frogzoo,  :)
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> sometimes.....
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> no
[11:58] <aftertaf> bob_4_a_day:  just considering your user id...
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> ircing as root is just asking someone to hack your box
[11:59] <frogzoo> Im root atm - please send me a dcc
[11:59] <bob_4_a_day> aftertaf i know i set it.
[11:59] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[11:59] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, I think it's a bug then. Have you logged out and in again after changing to 12h format?
[12:00] <tyler_> what gnome website can alter the top and bottom bars?
[12:00] <reign> frogzoo http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5294
[12:00] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: yes... i even restarted... :-|
[12:00] <frogzoo> thx
[12:01] <topyli> tyler_: what do you mean. no website can alter my panels
[12:01] <bob_4_a_day> you can set the user mask to anything you like for most irc clients.   some networks balk at things like *  or .  but you can set it to anything.
[12:02] <bob_4_a_day> i just perfer to set mine to 'root' it kinda has a nastalga(!sp)  about it.
[12:03] <reign> is that what you asked for frogzoo ?
[12:03] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> aftertaf hehhe also that is a proxy  i'm not even in that state.
[12:07] <frogzoo> reign: getting closer "PCI:UnabletoreserveI/Oregion#1:100@de00fordevice0000:00:09.0"
[12:08] <jdky_> hi, im trying to put 5.10 in my new computer but I wasn't able to resize a ntfs partition with gparted using the live cd. i could select the options but nothing happens after I apply the action. any help??
[12:08] <matrix-ubuntu-c> anyone who can solve my little problem
[12:08] <frogzoo> reign: can you try changing the irq=11    ?
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> jdky_: you can try using the partitioner in the installer, i don't know anythng about gpartd
[12:09] <frogzoo> jdky_: resize your ntfs partition from within windows
[12:09] <jdky_> Kamping_Kaiser: can i resize a ntfs partition with the instaler?
[12:09] <frogzoo> jdky_: no, absolutely not
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> jdky_: i think so
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> you sure frogzoo?
[12:09] <reign> change irq to 11 ?
[12:09] <jdky_> is it possible to do it in windows?
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> and frogzoo Windows wont resize partitions, you have to get 3rd party software
[12:09] <reign> in that modprobe.d folder ?
[12:10] <frogzoo> reign: yep, & reboot - just to c
[12:10] <reign> kk
[12:10] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, I've worked it out: it is in fact a bug.
[12:10] <lig> Ok - did as crimsun suggested and editted the control file so that amd64 was added... still had an error saying " current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[12:10] <lig> ".  downloaded the amd64 driver for the wireless card, placed it in the windows_drivers directory under HOME and removed the originally downloaded driver.  Still the same error "current build arch...".  Current ouput when I try to build is located at - http://pastebin.com/445994.  Any other ideas or suggestions for what to do to get my wireless card up and working?
[12:10] <frogzoo> Kamping_Kaiser: to resize, youd have to rewrite the file system - & so far, linux cant do that
[12:10] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: wooooooo :-)
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> frogzoo: i heard it resizes fine, but desont write files
[12:11] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, if you set the clock format string in gconf, it ignores %p, which according to man strftime should be replaced with a.m. or p.m. appropriately.
[12:11] <jdky_> yes me too, has anyone used gparted to resize a ntfs partition?
[12:11] <reign> k rebooting
[12:11] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: anything i can do to make it come back?
[12:11] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: perhaps edit gconf?
[12:11] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, report a bug. Don't ask me how, though...
[12:11] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: me am a noobie....
[12:12] <IRCMonkey999> lol
[12:12] <frogzoo> jdky_: well, half your luck - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces
[12:12] <IRCMonkey999> soundray: thanks....
[12:12] <soundray> IRCMonkey999, no gconf is fine. It's the panel applet that's buggy, I think.
[12:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> cannot determine eth dst addr
[12:12] <matrix-ubuntu-c> possibly missing arp cache entry  what does this mean folks
[12:12] <jdky_> frogzoo, sorry but i dont get what you just said
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> jdky_: don't blame him, in short ;)
[12:13] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: whats the command you use to start nmap ?
[12:13] <jdky_> ok, ill find a way
[12:13] <matrix-ubuntu-c> sudo nmap -v slashdot.rg
[12:13] <jdky_> i saw something about this in the forums, ill check
[12:13] <jdky_> thanks a lot for the help
[12:15] <reign> k frogzoo, still no card in network settings list
[12:15] <bob_4_a_day> ah lunch time.  bbiab
[12:16] <frogzoo> reign: I have a cunning idea - mv /etc/modprobe.d/tulip xtulip  ; then move the nic to a different pci slot
[12:16] <frogzoo> and reboot
[12:16] <os2mac> is shipit offering Kubuntu now?
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: not untill dapper (i hear)
[12:17] <os2mac> ahhh
[12:17] <Orporg> If it's not too much trouble, I'd like a hand getting my network connection going, please.
[12:19] <darkelder> hey
[12:19] <soundray> I need xpdf to scroll faster when I roll the mouse wheel. How can I configure this please?
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 docs, crap
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was supposed to be leraning
[12:20] <reign> frogzoo, i have actually just moved the card
[12:20] <reign> to another slot
[12:21] <frogzoo> reign: oh, does lspci still show it as irq 10 ?
[12:21] <Orporg> I believe my card and stuff is running ok, but I can't seem to connect to the Internet
[12:22] <frogzoo> Orporg: do you use dsl? sudo pppoeconf
[12:22] <soundray> Orporg, what kind of internet connection?
[12:22] <reign> dec ill check
[12:23] <Orporg> I'm using wifi
[12:23] <reign> no as irq11
[12:23] <Orporg> I have both a Mac and Windows machine running off this access point at the moment without a hitch
[12:23] <frogzoo> Orporg: have you configd the if ?
[12:24] <Orporg> I went through the "Networking" thing under Administration.  I gave it the name of my network as well as the WEP key
[12:24] <Orporg> It says the connection is active.  Oh, and the access point hands out IPs with DHCP, so I told it that
[12:24] <soundray> Orporg, can you ping the Mac and the Windows box?
[12:24] <frogzoo> Orporg: so you should see an ip addy with ifconfig ?
[12:25] <termo> Hi there, I'm having problems with my mouse: I just installed (k)ubuntu and my problem is that after a while my mouse freezes. Which can be solved after switching to console.
[12:25] <termo> I have googled, and found that this might be a kernel bug
[12:26] <termo> Can anyone confirm this. So far I have found nog solution while STFW.
[12:26] <frogzoo> reign: what happens when you 'insmod tulip' now ?
[12:26] <Orporg> Nope.  I have it set to DHCP and those fields are grayed out
[12:27] <soundray> Orporg, who are you replying to?
[12:27] <frogzoo> Orporg: after you close the gui, open a terminal & type ifconfig
[12:27] <topyli> suppose i had a star wreck xvid file here. how would i go about making a VCD?
[12:27] <reign> insmod: can't read 'tulip': no such file or directory
[12:27] <Orporg> Command not found
[12:27] <Orporg> Wait
[12:27] <Orporg> Yes it is
[12:27] <Orporg> Sorry
[12:27] <sorush20> good Morning?
[12:27] <soundray> termo, possible workaround: configure X (xorg.conf) to use sw_cursor.
[12:27] <sorush20> Good Morning
[12:28] <vbgunz> how do I make another text editor the default text editor? I wish to trade out Gedit for SciTE... Anyone know how to do this?
[12:28] <sorush20> l
[12:28] <sorush20> Morning
[12:28] <topyli> there must be a two-click gnome tool for that. i'm surprised it's not in the nautilus context menu :)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> is there something i need extra to run chmod?
[12:28] <nandemonai> hi ppl
[12:28] <frogzoo> reign: can you paste 'lsmod'
[12:28] <Orporg> Ok, I have a screenfull of numbers.  No packets have been sent between the access point and the computer
[12:28] <topyli> vbgunz: set the EDITOR and VISUAL variables in your .bashrc
[12:29] <reign> not really, but tulip is listed in insmod
[12:29] <reign> soz
[12:29] <stock> vbgunz, export EDITOR to the editor you want
[12:29] <reign> lsmod
[12:29] <vbgunz> topyli: thanks
[12:29] <davix> how do I run openrpg on ubuntu?
[12:29] <sorush20> guys whawt is the battery status checking package, I'm running a PC without a battery but accidently installed the battery checking program, it just stops responding at boot and Kubuntu will not boot fully what is the package name so that I can apt-get remove it?
[12:29] <stock> d'oh
[12:29] <sorush20> !battery
[12:29] <ubotu> sorush20: Not a clue
[12:29] <stock> too slow
[12:29] <topyli> vbgunz: VISUAL controls only X editors, EDITOR means console too
[12:29] <sorush20> !batt
[12:29] <ubotu> sorush20: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:29] <vbgunz> topyli: thank you!
[12:30] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  the battery thing is for laptops it lets them know the status of battery
[12:30] <frogzoo> reign: rmmod tulip ; insmod tulip
[12:30] <nandemonai> one simply question for everyone, what media player do you use in ubuntu under gnome?
[12:30] <termo> soundray: thanks, I will have a look at that.
[12:30] <vbgunz> topyli: gedit was not found in .bashrc... Am I looking for something else in there?
[12:30] <topyli> nandemonai: depends on the media. :) rhythmbox, mplayer
[12:31] <topyli> vbgunz: gedit is the system-wide default, hence not defined in your .bashrc
[12:31] <sorush20> gnomefreak: I just need to know the package name and so that I can remove it from the computer, I have a pc not a laptop and it doesn't have a battery so it hangs on checking for the battery any help please?
[12:31] <nandemonai> I'm trying to pick one to stick with..
[12:31] <reign> rmmod removed the module
[12:31] <reign> but insmod says it cant find the file
[12:31] <reign> @ frogzoo
[12:31] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  you can remove it from synaptic
[12:31] <vbgunz> topyli: sorry I wasn't clear :( I meant to get rid of Gedit and replace it with SciTE... Is this possible?
[12:31] <topyli> vbgunz: just add a line like this: export VISUAL=favorite-editor
[12:31] <soundray> Is there any way to configure the wheel-scrolling speed?
[12:32] <topyli> vbgunz: you want to uninstall gedit altogether?
[12:32] <jsteidl> has anbody allready packaged banshee-0.9.12 for ubuntu?
[12:32] <vbgunz> topyli: export VISUAL=SciTE
[12:32] <nandemonai> I find rhythm box and banshee buggy.. xmms is ok but i generally like something more ituney..
[12:32] <vbgunz> topyli: no, Leaving Gedit in is fine
[12:33] <jsteidl> nandemonai: banshee is kinda itunee ;)
[12:33] <topyli> vbgunz: yes, if SciTE is really the filename of the binary, and it's in your path
[12:33] <sorush20> gnomefreak: you misunderstood, the boot up hangs at that batter stage can someone help please?
[12:33] <nandemonai> jsteidl, yeah I have probs with it crashing alot
[12:33] <sorush20> gnomefreak: all I need to find out is the package name so that I can remove it
[12:33] <vbgunz> topyli: yes, do I also add on the %U?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  if its hanging because of that program go into synaptic find it and remove it
[12:34] <topyli> vbgunz: i never did :)
[12:34] <xored> can someone help me with the proftpd conf : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste . I still cannot login with ftpnormal. Why ?
[12:34] <vbgunz> topyli: thanks, do I have to restart something or maybe log out once this is done?
[12:34] <jsteidl> yep, 0.9.7  is kinda strange to use, but thats the reason i was asking for 9.12, it is said (propagted by the maintainer :)) that it has improved alot.
[12:34] <topyli> vbgunz: just start a new shell, like a new gnome-terminal and test away
[12:35] <vbgunz> ok!
[12:35] <gnomefreak> sorush20, thats the good thing about synaptic if you dont know the name of it you can still locate it there
[12:35] <topyli> vbgunz: gnome of course has its own idea about "defaults" :\
[12:35] <vbgunz> topyli: added the line but not sure how to "test away" :P
[12:35] <Orporg> I typed in "iwconfig" and it told me something interesting:  No wireless extensions.
[12:36] <topyli> vbgunz: well, EDITOR is usually started by scripts and such...
[12:36] <topyli> hmm
[12:36] <gnomefreak> sorush20, there is more than one battery status program so its gonna be hard for anyone to say its this one or that one ccause it would all be guesse
[12:37] <topyli> vbgunz: try "$VISUAL file.txt" :)
[12:37] <vbgunz> ok
[12:37] <_max_> Iv just installed Kubuntu 5.10, i configured proxy's and i can use konqueror to browse the web, however i uncommented the sources in /etc/apt/source.list and ran apt-get update, and it left me with allot of (111 connection refused)
[12:37] <_max_> anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> sorush20, im assuming you installed it through synaptic if not when you get to command line hit the arrow up button to togle through your commands that you have used and find it
[12:38] <vbgunz> topyli: neither $VISUAL file.txt OR VISUAL file.txt does anything when tried in the console...
[12:38] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: do u have any proxies installed?
[12:38] <vbgunz> hold up
[12:38] <topyli> vbgunz: hrm. what does "echo $VISUAL" print?
[12:38] <vbgunz> topyli: one sec
[12:38] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: i've had that problem because of the proxies
[12:39] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: especially some annoying little anonymous proxy
[12:39] <reign> frogzoo: modprobe tulip says : unknown param 'io'
[12:39] <sorush20> gnomefreak: is there a way that I could list the packages and find out what it is ?
[12:39] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: i removed that and then it was fine
[12:39] <Orporg> And when I used "iwscan" there were no scan results
[12:39] <vbgunz> topyli: it echos nothing...
[12:39] <frogzoo> reign: k, remove the io spec & try again
[12:39] <frogzoo> reign: wierd modprobe can find tulip, not insmod
[12:40] <_max_> im running through the company proxy.
[12:40] <sorush20> gnomefreak: I'm using kubuntu so I think its one of the kubuntu packages
[12:40] <_max_> i have to enter the proxy to get online :)
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: then the variable is not set. try "which SciTE"
[12:40] <vbgunz> it works
[12:40] <_max_> it worked fine through the proxy running Debian 3.1 though
[12:40] <vbgunz> I had to restart the terminal
[12:40] <reign> lol now it says unknown 'irq'
[12:40] <vbgunz> topyli: it now says scite
[12:40] <reign> AHA
[12:40] <topyli> vbgunz: yes, .bashrc is sourced only on a new shell
[12:40] <frogzoo> yes?
[12:40] <reign> dmesg says
[12:41] <vbgunz> I just don't like gedit because it doesn't open up some files in which scite can
[12:41] <topyli> vbgunz: or explicitly with "source .bashrc"
[12:41] <reign> linux tulip driver v ....
[12:41] <vbgunz> topyli: gotcha, thanks for that tip!
[12:41] <IRCMonkey999> _max_: i'm a noobie to linux.... it happened 2 days back to me
[12:41] <reign> acpi : pci interrupt blah blah -> irq 11
[12:41] <aftertaf> !start an editor war
[12:41] <ubotu> nano is better than xemacs.
[12:41] <xored> why does a USER have to has a shell to login into proftpd ?
[12:41] <reign> pci: unable to reserve i/o reguin blah blah
[12:42] <vbgunz> maybe I should log out topyli?
[12:42] <reign> region
[12:42] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  im not really sure of the command i know ls lists files but thinking only file in home dir.
[12:42] <frogzoo> yep, thats the problem
[12:42] <aftertaf> xored:  cos it uses a unix user account to let you log in?
[12:42] <reign> do io available
[12:42] <reign> ?
[12:42] <reign> no*
[12:42] <xored> aftertaf: but than, this user could login with ssh too, isnt it that way ?=
[12:42] <aftertaf> xored:  yes...
[12:42] <gnomefreak> sorush20, seeing is you dont know where it is is just making it that much harder on you do you have something against synaptic?
[12:42] <xored> aftertaf: and that should be OK ?
[12:43] <topyli> vbgunz: naah. VISUAL and EDITOR are used much less often than you'd think
[12:43] <frogzoo> reign: couple of things - remove the lines we added in /etc/modules
[12:43] <xored> aftertaf: sorry, is there a other way, is this server jsut trash ?
[12:43] <aftertaf> xored:  strong passwords.....   and make it to only members of the ssh group can login via ssh.
[12:43] <frogzoo> reign: then we need to work on getting the options passed in /etc/modprobe.d/tulip
[12:43] <topyli> vbgunz: you'll see that for example when you click a text file in nautilus, it will probably open in gedit
[12:43] <sorush20> gnomefreak: what?
[12:43] <vbgunz> topyli: oh? :( It seems when I try opening text files, they open in Gedit instead of Scite....
[12:44] <xored> aftertaf: or better choose another server ? what would you do. How can i restrict only users which are in SSH to connect to SSH ?
[12:44] <topyli> vbgunz: gnome doesn't care much about shell defaults
[12:44] <vbgunz> topyli: you use KDE/
[12:44] <aftertaf> its in sshconfig file i think
[12:44] <gnomefreak> sorush20,  do you know what directory the application you are trying to get rid of is?
[12:44] <topyli> vbgunz: not since KDE 1.2 :)
[12:45] <vbgunz> topyli: I hear that...
[12:45] <aftertaf> xored:  or run the ftp server in a chroot
[12:45] <vbgunz> topyli: :)
[12:45] <soundray> sorush20, could the package you want to remove be klaptopdaemon?
[12:45] <xored> aftertaf:  i just dont want the suer to have login with SSHl, thats just stupid
[12:45] <aftertaf> xored:  look in the sshconfig file for the server then.....
[12:45] <gnomefreak> soundray, it could very well be but he doesnt know what its called :(
[12:46] <topyli> vbgunz: try to find a key in gconf-editor that sets the defaults for different mime types
[12:46] <vbgunz> topyli: ok
[12:46] <soundray> sorush20, try 'sudo apt-get remove klaptopdaemon'. If it's not installed, it'll tell you.
[12:46] <reign> frogzoo : modprobe.d/tulip too ?
[12:47] <vbgunz> topyli: file-roller, mail and evolution mime types only :(
[12:47] <twilight> hi. I'm on dapper, kernel 2.6.15. Now system in without hotplug, (it's ok, i've read something about this in HarwareDetection Page on wiki). but...now...my wlan0 (depending by ndiswrapper) is down.."ndiswrapper -l" give me the "driver present, hardware present"..any ideas?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> him not knowing the name i gave him synaptic to try and find it and get rid of it but hes dead set agianst it :(
[12:47] <frogzoo> reign: sent you an im
[12:47] <reign> oh soz
[12:48] <vbgunz> topyli: am looking into gedit in gconf
[12:48] <vbgunz> topyli: maybe something there...
[12:48] <frogzoo> reign: the thing now is to get the options in /etc/modprobe.d/tulip correct
[12:48] <xored> aftertaf: cannot find anything to configure the "group" permission for login in /etc/ssh/sshd.conf . What whould there be ?
[12:48] <Mabus06> How do I make a shortcut with "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shortcut? I tried putting it in the "command" part of the shortcut with smeg, but it only works if I type it in manually at terminal. Any ideas?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> i dont need to be cded to the dir.  to use dpkg. i can use dpkg from anywhere and it should work right?
[12:49] <vbgunz> topyli: :( no gedit default options and no scite either in gconf...
[12:50] <tim_work> hi
[12:50] <_max_> asd
[12:50] <tim_work> does anyone know how to get ffox 1.5 installed via apt? Is there a repo somewhere with it?
[12:51] <Mabus06> read topic tim_work
[12:51] <Mabus06> "no firefox 1.5 in breezy until after it appears in dapper"
[12:51] <soundray> Mabus06, sudo echo -e \#\!/bin/sh \n doom3 +set s_driver oss >/usr/local/bin/doom ; sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/doom
[12:51] <tim_work> Mabus06: ah thanks
[12:52] <_max_> hmm... i switched network to one that doesn't use a proxy and apt works fine... i mean i can browse the internet with the proxy network.. doesn't apt use the same proxy config?
[12:52] <_max_> since apt seems to use http?
[12:52] <soundray> Mabus06, you should then be able to call 'doom' from anywhere.
[12:53] <aftertaf> twilight:  what page is that hardware dapper on?
[12:53] <aftertaf> xored:  i did it with webmin, i cant remember what the option is in the config file....
[12:54] <IRCMonkey999> Mabus06: what does "until after it appears in dapper" mean? wont it be out until april 2006?
[12:54] <Natsuki> Hello
[12:54] <balor> Whats the Ubuntu dev channel?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> why doesnt dpkg work on a deb :(
[12:54] <aftertaf> _max_:  you need to set apt up for proxy
[12:54] <aftertaf> !aptproxy
[12:54] <ubotu> aftertaf: I haven't a clue
[12:54] <Mabus06> IRCMonkey999, I don't know, I just know how to read the topic. *shrugs*
[12:54] <Mabus06> soundray,  bash: /usr/local/bin/doom: Permission denied
[12:54] <soundray> Mabus06, you forgot to sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/doom
[12:54] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: it probably means there will not be a backport before dapper has sources from which to backport :)
[12:55] <Mabus06> soundray, you told me to do the first command first though... okay
[12:55] <aftertaf> _max_:  make a new file called apt.conf in /etc/apt
[12:55] <gnomefreak> this is about to piss me off. ok to install .deb you dpkg -i <file>.deb?
[12:55] <Mabus06> soundray,  chmod: cannot access `/usr/local/bin/doom': No such file or directory
[12:55] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: and how soon will that be.... approx. ;)
[12:55] <tjackoman> hey! what xorg driver do you recommend for laptop with ati radeon mobility graphics?
[12:55] <YukiIkyuta|awy> _max_, APT can also use FTP.
[12:55] <aftertaf> _max_:  and put this in it : Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.130.8.254:8090";
[12:55] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: it's possible there will never be a backport because firefox easily causes a dependency hell and you'll end up backporting half the system
[12:56] <aftertaf> _max_:  change addr & port ;)
[12:56] <YukiIkyuta|awy> _max_, you can also set the proxy up in Synaptic.
[12:56] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: :-o
[12:56] <twilight> aftertaf, i've read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDetection
[12:57] <aftertaf> twilight:  thx
[12:57] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: RC3 seems to be in dapper, so the final should arrive there soon. we'll see then if backporting is feasible
[12:57] <GNAM> APACHE 2.2.0 OUT!
[12:57] <GNAM> incredible
[12:58] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: oh ok...
[12:58] <GNAM> New features include Smart Filtering, Improved Caching, AJP Proxy, Proxy Load Balancing, Graceful Shutdown support, Large File Support, the Event MPM, and refactored Authentication/Authorization
[12:59] <IRCMonkey999> anyone knows a good common lisp IDE for ubuntu linux gnome ?
[12:59] <soundray> Mabus06, slight modification, watch the double backslash: 'sudo -i ; echo -e \#\!/bin/sh \\n doom3 +set s_driver oss >/usr/local/bin/doom ; chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/doom'
[12:59] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: here's how i installed 1.5: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283&highlight=firefox+1.5
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !tell IRCMonkey999 about firefox1.5
[01:00] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: sorry, here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <Mabus06> soundray, doom is in /usr/local/games/doom
[01:00] <_eliphas> !wiki mp3
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ok anyone how do i get linux yo use java 1.5 instead of defaul for ubuntu 1.4?
[01:00] <Mabus06> soundray, rather, /usr/local/games/doom3
[01:01] <IRCMonkey999> ubotu: dance for me... ;)
[01:01] <soundray> Mabus06, don't worry about that.
[01:01] <ColdWind> gnomefreak, you can download it from PLF repostories
[01:01] <topyli> gnomefreak: update-alternatives --config java
[01:01] <balor> gnomefreak, The ununtu default is gcj not the Sun JVM an is only at 1.4
[01:01] <IRCMonkey999> thanx topyli , Hobbsee
[01:01] <soundray> Mabus06, you just want a shortcut, don't you? The script /usr/local/bin/doom that we're creating fulfils that function.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ColdWind,  its down loaded and installed but when i java -version it still gives me the 1.4
[01:01] <Mabus06> yes
[01:01] <Hobbsee> IRCMonkey999: no problems
[01:02] <Mabus06> soundray,  when I type in the command you give me it has a > thing on the line, looks like it's awaiting input for something...
[01:02] <ColdWind> #deb ftp://antesis.freecontrib.org/freecontrib/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[01:02] <ColdWind> #deb-src ftp://antesis.freecontrib.org/freecontrib/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[01:02] <_max_> aftertaf : that worked :) thanks!!!!
[01:02] <IRCMonkey999> any suggestions for a good common lisp IDE for ubuntu linux gnome ? i'm noobs to both linux and lisp
[01:02] <aftertaf> !apt_proxy
[01:02] <ubotu> [apt_proxy]  for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt;conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";
[01:02] <ColdWind> Java 1.5 is on these repos
[01:02] <_max_> now for the next question... Somehow on every machine iv installed Kubuntu on the konsole puts a small "pipe" like symbol to the far left.
[01:02] <aftertaf> :)
[01:03] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: emacs is probably best for that
[01:03] <_max_> on each and every line.. anyone know what does this? aterm and xterm work fine..
[01:03] <IRCMonkey999> oh ok...
[01:03] <soundray> Mabus06, you probably pasted one of the quotes. Just copy the stuff between the quotes. Make sure you don't introduce any linebreaks.
[01:03] <brenner> _max_: that's an applet for the open windows iirc
[01:03] <soundray> Mabus06, Ctrl-C to get away from the > prompt
[01:03] <topyli> IRCMonkey999: since emacs basically is nothing but a lisp interpreter :)
[01:03] <xored> aftertaf: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1204 . What is wrong. Why i cannot override the LOGIN option later, whats wrong ?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ColdWind,  even with my java repo 1.5 still isnt on there its 1.4
[01:03] <IRCMonkey999> topyli: :)
[01:04] <_max_> free~brenner: it seems more like a artifact or bug since it doesn't _always_ appear and it looks ... wierd..
[01:04] <ColdWind> gnomefreak you need to change the simbolic links on /usr/bin, it should be made with dpkg-divert
[01:04] <_max_> it looks like its screwd up teh font since some letters are really hard to read.
[01:04] <ColdWind> the simbolic links are pointing to gcj (I think)
[01:04] <mwe> gnomefreak: topyli told you what to do.  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:04] <brenner> _max_: oh, probably not that then ... screenie?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> they are
[01:05] <vbgunz> topyli: it is official... logging out won't help anything...
[01:05] <sorush20> guys I need to fix the apt-get get I type in sudo apt-get install or remove -f but I keep getting temprary failure resolving archive.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <aftertaf> xored:  argh, for the ftp access, i dunno
[01:05] <gnomefreak> mwe,  i know i have it typed wait for update to finish
[01:05] <ColdWind> mwe, I didn't know that way, it seem a good alternative ;)
[01:05] <sorush20> this is because i'm not connecte to the internet yet but if I can't connect how can I fix the problem?
[01:05] <_max_> brenner : changing theme from "black and white" to "vim" fixed it..
[01:05] <mwe> it should take about half a second
[01:05] <gnomefreak> once i dpkged it it had an update than i will run the command
[01:06] <_max_> seems its just rendering the font thats used in "black and white" theme thats being renderd wierd.
[01:06] <soundray> sorush20, are you still trying to remove that battery thing?
[01:06] <Mabus06> soundray right, I got past that problem but now when I type "doom" it still dosen't work (the sound doesn't work, and I have to reboot for it to work even if I type it in the prompt"
[01:06] <brenner> _max_: oh, sorry. must've missed the start of your thread.  i didn't know you were talking about terminals :)
[01:07] <redguy> anyone knows of a good movie subtitling program for linux?
[01:07] <_max_> :)
[01:07] <redguy> all I could find is some sourceforge projects... :/
[01:08] <_max_> and last but not least.. Does anyone know a mail client that can work as a replacement for Outlook, being able to add meatings that are sent via the server? so if someone calls me to a meeting at 15.00 it will add the meeting to my calendar and warn me 15 minutes ahead?
[01:08] <_max_> Mozillas thunderbird was supposed to get a beta for that in sunfire in november but doesn't seem to have happend.
[01:08] <sorush20> soundray: yes, but there seemes to be a problem with apt-get , I need to fix it using -f but I can't access the internet since ubuntu hasn't loaded yet
[01:08] <balor> _max_, Evolution
[01:08] <soundray> Mabus06, I can't help you with doom3, but if you find a working way to call it from the commandline, you can edit /usr/local/bin/doom accordingly afterwards.
[01:08] <soundray> Mabus06, you've got the shortcut that you asked for :)
[01:08] <_max_> balor : is that an addon for thunderbird or a seperate mail client?
[01:09] <Mabus06> soundray, not really..
[01:09] <Mabus06> soundray, worked the same way if I put it in the "command" part of the shortcut
[01:09] <balor> _max_, it's a mail client for Linux.  It's pretty good, sponsored by Novell
[01:10] <Mabus06> soundray, doom3 is a SH file that calls another file which is probably the game (doomx86 or something)
[01:10] <balor> _max_, http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html
[01:10] <soundray> sorush20, do a 'dpkg --remove klaptopdaemon', if that's the package you want to get rid of.
[01:10] <soundray> Mabus06, so?
[01:10] <balor> _max_, this is more useful http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/
[01:11] <Mabus06> soundray, so is the way I could change that file to make it run with those commands maybe? I find it strange that my command works in the command line but not in a shortcut.
[01:11] <_max_> using KDE though so hope it works with kde aswell ;p
[01:12] <_eliphas> !wiki mp3 codec
[01:12] <soundray> Mabus06, are you saying that if you run 'doom3 +set s_driver oss' from a terminal, everything works okay?
[01:12] <Mabus06> soundray, yes
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _eliphas  about mp3
[01:12] <tristan> Mabus06 : then  modify with smeg the command that launch your doom3
[01:12] <gnomefreak> _eliphas,  read what ubotu sent you
[01:12] <soundray> Mabus06, and when you run 'doom', it doesn't?
[01:13] <Mabus06> yes soundray
[01:13] <Mabus06> tristan, tried that before I came here.
[01:13] <tristan> run smeg, choose the doom3 shortcut and click to edit the command that is launched when you click on it
[01:13] <soundray> Mabus06, what does 'which doom' give you?
[01:13] <Mabus06> soundray, same thing that putting "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in a shortcut does. Doom 3 with no sound.
[01:14] <Mabus06> oh, which doom
[01:14] <Mabus06> ones econd
[01:14] <intelikey> Mabus06 if you can't seem to affect the point and click shortcut in a way that pleases you.  put your command line options in a script and shortcut the script.     'echo "runthis  -withthese options " > script.sh ;chmod 7 script.sh '   and make a short cut to script.sh
[01:14] <Mabus06> /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:14] <soundray> intelikey, that's what we've been trying.
[01:14] <mwe> Mabus06: did you type the full path in the shortcut?
[01:14] <mwe> Mabus06: or just doom?
[01:14] <Mabus06> in what shortcut?
[01:15] <Mabus06> When I type "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in the terminal everything works fine
[01:15] <sorush20> I'm still having the same problem
[01:15] <soundray> sorush20, what have you tried?
[01:15] <Mabus06> if I type "doom" it runs, but with no sound
[01:16] <derek_> HI
[01:16] <Mabus06> Same if I put "doom3 +set s_driver oss" in the command part of the shortcut (same thing as editing through smeg, tristan).
[01:16] <derek_> If Grub fails to install on the MBR and the floppy, which other option should I go for?
[01:17] <balor> derek_, your disk is fecked then or you're on a Mac
[01:17] <Mabus06> intelikey, didn't soundray say we already tried that?
[01:18] <derek_> balor: I'm running windoze on this disk
[01:18] <intelikey> humor me
[01:18] <Mabus06> intelikey, try msging me the contents and I can save it
[01:18] <_eliphas> gnomefreak, thanks mate
[01:19] <_eliphas> sorry was ready the wik about it
[01:19] <gnomefreak> _eliphas,  no problem
[01:19] <_eliphas> I had a memory blank
[01:19] <Mabus06> somebody told me that gnome != linux. What IS linux then?
[01:19] <_eliphas> setting up a new pc at work
[01:19] <_eliphas> and suddenly black hole .... how to enable mp3 already
[01:19] <soundray> Mabus06, strictly Linux is just the kernel.
[01:19] <djk_> Mabus06: linux is the kernel ;)
[01:19] <intelikey> linux is the os    gnome is the desktop environment
[01:20] <intelikey> xorg is the gui
[01:20] <Mabus06> so how do you "use" linux then? like tty1 and stuff?
[01:20] <mt_holden_ss> can some one help me, i want to access my linux partition from windows, i can access my windows partitipn right now
[01:21] <soundray> Mabus06, mostly it's the programs you are running that 'use' Linux.
[01:21] <intelikey> if you boot ubuntu you use linux for everything that you do in ub\
[01:21] <Mabus06> intelikey, the transfer failed, can you message me the contents so I can save it myself?
[01:22] <intelikey> #!/bin/bash
[01:22] <soundray> Mabus06, show intelikey the contents of /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:22] <intelikey> doom3 +set s_driver oss
[01:22] <intelikey> be sure to chmod it to 755
[01:22] <brenner> mt_holden_ss: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[01:22] <soundray> intelikey, that is precisely what we've created on Mabus06's machine already.
[01:22] <sorush20> how can I find out what are being loaded up at start up and how can I enable and disable them from loading at start up?
[01:22] <brenner> mt_holden_ss: last time i used it though, copying directories was rather tedious
[01:23] <intelikey> and it runs from the commandline but not from the click methood ?
[01:23] <EtnaRosso> firefox1.5 hot to?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ok now if i can set robocode up :(
[01:23] <soundray> intelikey, exactly.
[01:23] <Mabus06> intelikey, /usr/local/bin/doom = #!/bin/sh
[01:23] <Mabus06>  doom3 +set s_driver oss
[01:23] <soundray> intelikey, it's as if it ignored the parameters when called from a script.
[01:23] <intelikey> in a browser dubble click the file
[01:24] <intelikey> that file /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:24] <gnomefreak> anyone ever use robocode on ubuntu?
[01:25] <Mabus06> yes intelikey
[01:25] <mt_holden_ss> wat about putting files from linux to my xp partition, it wont let me
[01:25] <mt_holden_ss> u all from australia?
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> mt_holden_ss: no writing to ntfs
[01:25] <intelikey> and is works or not Mabus06 ?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> its a .jar file and i try to run it java robocode-setup-1.0.7.jar  not run it install it
[01:25] <Mabus06> intelikey, not... that's my problem
[01:25] <derek_> balor: sorry, accidently closed the window
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> mt_holden_ss: qute a few are, but lots from the states
[01:26] <soundray> intelikey, it runs doom3, but without sound, right Mabus06?
[01:26] <derek_> balor: so why do you think the disk is not right?
[01:26] <brenner> mt_holden_ss: open explore2fs, then open windows explorer, then drag and drop
[01:26] <tristan> Yes. OK, for those who remember my trouble using smeg, I found what was the trouble
[01:26] <Mabus06> yes soundray, intelikey
[01:26] <intelikey> from the command line you can type  '/usr/local/bin/doom'  and it does work ?
[01:26] <intelikey> something smells fishy
[01:26] <tristan> My .config in my /home/myname was only in root permission so it seems that smeg couldn't update my menus
[01:27] <Mabus06> intelikey, haven't tried that, but "doom3 +set s_driver oss" does work
[01:27] <soundray> intelikey, no, what works from the command line is doom3 +set s_driver oss
[01:27] <gnomefreak> even the bot dont know jar :(
[01:27] <Mabus06> which is the contents of /usr/local/bin/doom
[01:27] <mt_holden_ss> oh so i didnt have to delete wat i just did
[01:27] <intelikey> Mabus06  '/usr/local/bin/doom '
[01:27] <mt_holden_ss> doesnt matter i am gunna re-boot into windows and re-download
[01:28] <intelikey> and make sure the script will start it correctly.      'always exec a script before you call it finished....'
[01:28] <Mabus06> intelikey, once the game launches without sound, even if I close the program again I have to reboot in order to get it to work by typing "doom3 +set s_driver oss" again.
[01:28] <Mabus06> else even that command will make it run with no sound
[01:29] <vbgunz> soundray: you played doom3 on Linux and on Windows?
[01:29] <soundray> vbgunz, no, neither.
[01:29] <intelikey> so test the script from the command line.   by typing  '/usr/local/bin/doom '   and if it works then it should work from the 'point and click'  thingy
[01:29] <vbgunz> soundray: oh
[01:29] <Mabus06> intelikey, "should work"... what good is that? :D
[01:30] <vbgunz> intelikey: you played doom3 on Win and Lin?
[01:30] <Mabus06> I played it on both, and on xbox
[01:30] <intelikey> if it wont work from the command line it should not work from the point and click thingy either....
[01:30] <Mabus06> well it doesn't work from the point and click thingy, doesn't that say something already?
[01:31] <raz879> I-N-T-E-L-I-K-E-Y: hi
[01:31] <Mabus06> ok brb, I'll try it intelikey, but if it doesn't work I have to reboot probably
[01:31] <intelikey> yeah says you are tired of messing with it.
[01:31] <soundray> Mabus06, I suspect doom3 is messing with your sound devices or something.
[01:32] <soundray> sorush20, how are you getting on?
[01:33] <Mabus06> soundray, yes it is working from the command line
[01:33] <intelikey> Mabus06 you typed it in terminal and it works ?
[01:33] <soundray> Mabus06, does it work if you enter doom after Alt-F2?
[01:33] <intelikey> or console ?
[01:34] <intelikey> there is a differance in terminal and console
[01:35] <Mabus06> intelikey, the script works if I type it in the terminal, but not from a shortcut. Same with the command itself that the script runs.
[01:35] <intelikey> terminal or console ?
[01:35] <Mabus06> Although, neither work after trying it from a shortcut. I have to reboot in order for the command to work.
[01:35] <Mabus06> So should I reboot before trying it from alt-f2 (is that console?)
[01:35] <intelikey> that is console
[01:35] <soundray> Mabus06, instead of rebooting, try killall doom3
[01:36] <Mabus06> soundray, I tried killall doom3 -v and it said no doom3 process killed
[01:36] <intelikey> sudo that
[01:36] <Mabus06> same
[01:36] <soundray> Mabus06, since doom3 is just a shell script, you might have to kill Doom 3 by another name.
[01:36] <Mabus06> oh ok
[01:36] <soundray> Mabus06, find out with ps ax
[01:37] <intelikey> i bet its leaving some sound app running......
[01:37] <soundray> intelikey, isn't there some trick with lsof?
[01:37] <marky> mahlzeit
[01:38] <marky> its all in english here?
[01:38] <Mabus06> soundray, doom 3 is a shell that calls doom.x86
[01:38] <Mabus06> killall doom.x86 kills nothing
[01:38] <Mabus06> same with killall doom
[01:38] <soundray> Yeah, marky, for German, /join #ubuntu-de
[01:38] <intelikey> yeah lsof would probably find it if you had a clue what to look for
[01:39] <marky> how do i make this?
[01:39] <soundray> Mabus06, killall doom.x86 ?
[01:39] <Mabus06> killall doom.x86 kills nothing
[01:39] <soundray> Mabus06, sudo killall doom.x86 ?
[01:39] <Mabus06> same
[01:39] <intelikey> Mabus06 'ps ax |grep doom'
[01:39] <soundray> Mabus06, 'doom' in terminal - sound?
[01:40] <intelikey> or better yet paste you ps ax
[01:40] <Mabus06>  8788 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep doom
[01:40] <Mabus06> that's all that's outputted
[01:40] <Mabus06> haven't tried, soundray... I'd have to reboot to try it anyway
[01:41] <soundray> Mabus06, I think you've managed to kill it.
[01:41] <Mabus06> or if I did I can't remember
[01:41] <Mabus06> soundray, I haven't killed anything
[01:41] <soundray> Mabus06, there might still be a process hogging the sound device.
[01:41] <Mabus06> I already tried all this before
[01:41] <Mabus06> it seems to be the shortcut that has the problem
[01:41] <intelikey> that's what i said/   paste your     ps ax
[01:42] <Mabus06> paste my ax
[01:43] <soundray> intelikey, not here.
[01:43] <intelikey> no    ps ax
[01:43] <mbn18> where i can set the locale ?
[01:43] <mbn18> i mean not thrugh the shell
[01:43] <raz879> hi, sorry to bother u guys, im new to linux and i've tried playing with it.. is there any possible way to upgrade from  one version to the other without reinstalling everyting?
[01:43] <raz879> and not loosing all the custom things u've done?
[01:43] <intelikey> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:43] <intelikey> oooops
[01:43] <soundray> mbn18, when you login via gdm.
[01:43] <Mabus06> not in here I take it
[01:43] <Mabus06> oh right, pastebin
[01:43] <Mabus06> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:44] <Mabus06> that was px ax intelikey
[01:44] <Mabus06> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5296
[01:44] <intelikey> i see three linst of it.
[01:44] <brenner> raz879: i assume you mean hoary to breezy?
[01:44] <intelikey>  BitchX: Auto-ignoring Mabus06 for 10 minutes [MSG flood] 
[01:45] <Mabus06> oh...
[01:45] <Mabus06> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5296
[01:45] <Mabus06> read that
[01:45] <Mabus06> if auto-ignore means he can't hear me right now, can someone else tell him "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5296"
[01:45] <intelikey> looking
[01:45] <Mabus06> ok
[01:46] <intelikey> it only ignored your /msg
[01:47] <derek_> Can GRUB be installation be left during the base installation and installed sometime else?
[01:47] <intelikey> have you tried killing esd
[01:47] <Mabus06> yes
[01:47] <derek_> ok. If I don't install any bootloader, how can I boot into Linux?
[01:47] <intelikey> derek_ if you can boot ub from another boot loader you don't need grub at all
[01:48] <derek_> will booting from the installl-cd boot the installed linux??
[01:48] <gnomefreak> derek_, bootlader doesnt get installed it gets placed
[01:48] <raz879> hi, brenner, umm didn't get what u mean.. i mean every distribution releases new versions of their software from time to time, how
[01:48] <raz879> or would it be possible to install linux as an upgrade?
[01:48] <raz879> im just starting to learn linux..
[01:48] <reign> anyone know how to give a network card a specific io ?
[01:48] <intelikey> derek_ no it will boot the installer
[01:48] <derek_> gnomefreak: during the installation it said "installation"
[01:48] <derek_> hm
[01:48] <derek_> damn
[01:49] <soundray> reign, depends on the driver.
[01:49] <intelikey> Mabus06 'sudo killall esd '   and run  '/usr/local/games/doom'  from the terminal.   not the console.
[01:49] <brenner> raz879: well, i'm not sure if you mean upgrading your entire distribution, or just individual applications
[01:49] <soundray> reign, if the driver supports it, it's usually insmod io=0x300 or similar.
[01:50] <soundray> reign, sorry, insmod drivername io=0x300
[01:50] <Mabus06> no such file or directory soundray
[01:50] <derek_> so how will I run linux if I don't install a bootloader?
[01:50] <soundray> Mabus06, when you do what?
[01:50] <Mabus06> soundray, "/usr/local/games/doom"
[01:51] <soundray> Mabus06, /usr/local/bin/doom is where you saved it.
[01:51] <raz879> brenner: i mean upgrading from one version to another.. lets say version 4 to version 5..? if i run version 5 setup again, would it overwrite all the things i've done in version 4?
[01:51] <soundray> Mabus06, should be in your path, so just 'doom' is enough.
[01:51] <Mabus06> soundray, that's what he told me to run
[01:51] <intelikey> derek_ you can boot the installer and when it gets to the setting up partitions step    alt+f2  and  run mount /dev/yourubpartition.. /media ' and chroot /media grub-install   if needed.
[01:51] <Mabus06> intelikey, that is
[01:51] <soundray> Mabus06, sorry confuse, who is he?
[01:52] <intelikey> well where ever that script you made is....
[01:52] <Mabus06> soundray, intelikey.... join #doom3
[01:52] <Mabus06> please
[01:52] <Mabus06> okay, will do intelikey
[01:52] <derek_> intelikey: /dev/yourubpartition ..you mean "/" ?
[01:53] <intelikey> no
[01:53] <intelikey> the device node.
[01:53] <derek_> yea, where "/" will be mounted?
[01:53] <derek_> cuz I'll be creating a separate partition for /home
[01:53] <intelikey> fdisk -l  will tell you which partition number / is on.
[01:53] <Mabus06> intelikey, /usr/local/bin/doom is where the script is, and it works if typed in the terminal
[01:53] <brenner> raz879: ok, you mean individual apps i guess ... depends how you upgrade, but yes, files will usually get overwritten, *but* your old config files may still be servicable
[01:54] <brenner> at least, in my experience they mostly have been
[01:54] <derek_> intelikey: /dev/yourubpartition -- by this you mean mount "/" ?
[01:54] <derek_> intelikey: /media -- ?
[01:55] <intelikey> Mabus06 are you sure that if you open nautilus and up arrow to / and enter that /usr folder and then the /local folder and then the /bin folder and dubble click the file doom that it does not work ?
[01:56] <sorush20> is there any way that I can enable or disable boot up daemons from the command line?
[01:56] <Mabus06> intelikey, am I "sure"? no, never tried it
[01:57] <intelikey> derek_    the mount command works like this.   ' mount /dev/hda5 /media '   where  hda is the first hard disk on ide and #5 is a partition number    /media is a mount point  "folder or direstory"
[01:57] <soundray> sorush20, I'd like to help, but you don't respond when I ask you questions.
[01:57] <Mabus06> intelikey, it does work
[01:57] <intelikey> Mabus06 that was what i asked you to do when we first started this.
[01:57] <intelikey> ok
[01:58] <Mabus06> intelikey, oh well I don't remember what I tried, but pretty much anything works except the shortcut
[01:58] <MartySkitch> I'm having problems with tightvnc and fluxbox - when I open a xterm in then vncviewer the host computer's memory is completely used up.  Using Breezy but same setup works great on Hoary
[01:58] <sorush20> soundray: I'm ready to resopodn
[01:58] <nat> hi
[01:58] <intelikey> Mabus06 it doesnt to click on the script in nautilus  you say ?
[01:58] <nat> i've a pb with my network interface
[01:59] <Mabus06> intelikey, it does I said
[01:59] <nat> http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/32099
[01:59] <soundray> sorush20, have you booted your machine now?
[01:59] <raz879> brenner: ic.. thanks! :)
[01:59] <intelikey> then drag and drop that thing to your desktop and be done with it.
[01:59] <nat> why i don't have a defalut ip of 127.0.0.1 in my lo
[01:59] <nat> and how can i add it ?
[01:59] <sorush20> yes Ive loaded the recovery kernel and I'm at the terminal command line as root..
[01:59] <intelikey> that was where i started an hour ago.
[02:00] <nat> because for the moment i ve to put it every time i switch on my pc
[02:00] <derek_> alt+f2 takes to the shell?
[02:00] <brenner> raz879: yw
[02:00] <soundray> intelikey, are you referring to sorush?
[02:01] <intelikey> no Mabus06 soundray
[02:01] <sorush20> soundray: I keep trying to fix the apt-get install -f but I get the message that the linux image has to be removed, which is not recommmended so I'm not going to remove the information.
[02:01] <soundray> sorush20, leave apt-get aside for now.
[02:01] <soundray> sorush20, do you know which package you want to remove?
[02:02] <intelikey> derek_ yes
[02:02] <derek_> ok
[02:02] <derek_> If I want to use only the Partitioner of Ubuntu Install
[02:02] <derek_> Can I?
[02:02] <sorush20> soundray: no I don't I do know that the daemon fails to load fully or even just fail since it hangs and computer freezes ..
[02:02] <derek_> (I got the live cd)
[02:02] <Mabus06> got it working now. thanks intelikey, soundray
[02:03] <intelikey> derek_ then use the live cd my all means it will make it easier on you.
[02:03] <soundray> sorush20, do you know which daemon that is?
[02:03] <intelikey> Mabus06 your'e welcome.  sorry if i chewed on ya.
[02:04] <ZoZo-> Hello, how can you change access on a mounted ntfs disk from root to another user? =)
[02:04] <Mabus06> intelikey, nope, no bite marks
[02:04] <intelikey> :)
[02:04] <dorto> i get this error when ubuntu starts: "GDM could not write to your authorization file. This could mean that your home directory could not be opened..."
[02:04] <dorto> how do i fix that?
[02:05] <derek_> intelikey: how can I use the "partitioner" ?
[02:05] <intelikey> but i do get edgy when someone says 'no it didn't work'   'no that don't work'   and then an hour later i find out they never tried it.
[02:05] <intelikey> gkparted  i think it's called derek_
[02:05] <derek_> ok
[02:05] <derek_> let me reboot using the live cd
[02:06] <intelikey> i hope he knows what he's doing.
[02:06] <soundray> sorush20, sorry, were you saying something while I popped out for a minute?
[02:06] <sorush20> soundray: yes I think I don , and also it hing I know what your saying.. however all i can see is that *Checking battery state... OK, then the system freezes.. I think its another daemon that is failing
[02:07] <soundray> sorush20, can you find any error messages in /var/log/syslog around the time of the freeze?
[02:08] <seb__> tach
[02:09] <sorush20> soundray: I'll check now
[02:10] <intelikey> sorush20 can you boot that box to safemode/recovery/single or something like that so you can access the files and use grep ?      if so  'grep -Hie"Checking battery state" /etc/rcS.d/* '  and tell us what is posting that message then we will see about skipping the folling process.
[02:11] <ZoZo-> How do you edit /etc/fstab so that any user can mount and umount a hdd?
[02:11] <R0bNyc> Hello , how can i get kde 3.5 on ubuntu/kubuntu breezy?
[02:11] <intelikey> ZoZo-  add  user  to the line
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> R0bNyc, kubuntu comes with kde
[02:11] <soundray> intelikey, he has booted the recovery option and that works.
[02:11] <R0bNyc> wickedpuppy, yes i know
[02:11] <ZoZo-> intelikey, How? ;D
[02:11] <R0bNyc> but not kde 3.5
[02:11] <soundray> intelikey, he is checking /var/log/syslog right now.
[02:11] <intelikey> example; /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto defaults,users,noauto,ro,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
[02:11] <quacker> R0bNyc, I believe you'd have to deinstall kde-base, etc., and compile it from src.  =(
[02:12] <soundray> intelikey, can I leave sorush20 to you? I have to go.
[02:12] <intelikey> errrr that should be user not users
[02:12] <R0bNyc> quacker, i already did that on gentoo .. emerge -uD world lol
[02:12] <quacker> man apt-get
[02:12] <quacker> man dpkg
[02:12] <quacker> man debconf
[02:12] <soundray> intelikey, please :)
[02:12] <intelikey> soundray yeah not sure i can fix him but i'll try
[02:12] <quacker> Those are your tools.
[02:12] <sorush20> intelikey: soundraythanks,
[02:12] <sorush20> intelikey: Iam in the recovery mode I will be going what you just said.
[02:12] <intelikey> k
[02:13] <soundray> intelikey, thanks. sorush20, good luck...
[02:13] <quacker> No emerge, rpm, or yam on Ubuntu, AFAIK.
[02:13] <BigKahuna> Does anybody have a TV tuner card working with breezy? I'm not looking to set up MythTV but would like to be able to watch TV with my TV tuner card. I have a hauppauge PVR150 which apparently is not compatible with TvTime.  Any suggestions as to what else I can use?
[02:14] <eeaaxx> is it possible to upgrade hoary to breezy using only the installation CD?
[02:14] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I have a Hauppauge card, works well with mplayer
[02:14] <intelikey> eeaaxx no
[02:14] <quacker> Bigfrans, check out the V4L website (Video for Linux) -- I'm afraid you'll hvae to search the web for it as I don't have the site memorized (you might try v4l.com |~.org)
[02:14] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, You just became my new best friend.
[02:14] <intelikey> !upgrade to breezy
[02:14] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:15] <eeaaxx> intelikey: just reinstall it?
[02:15] <quacker> Also the DRI project and Gatos have thirdpaarty capture drivers from some cards (like my Radeon All-In-WOnder)
[02:15] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, What hauppauge card do you have?
[02:15] <intelikey> yes or if you have fast inet upgrade via apt-get
[02:15] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I think xawtv and zapping do also work, but since I can watch and record with mplayer (and mencoder) I stay with them
[02:15] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[02:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:15] <v9> hi
[02:15] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I am not sure, a pretty old one, maybe 5 years old
[02:15] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, you are using the IVTV driver I presume?
[02:16] <eeaaxx> ubotu: ok
[02:16] <ubotu> eeaaxx: Wish i knew
[02:16] <sorush20> intelikey: how can I get out of vim?
[02:16] <quacker> Errr, sorry BigKahuna, I called you Bigfrans
[02:16] <gnomefreak> exit
[02:16] <intelikey> sorush20 :q
[02:17] <BigKahuna> quacker, No worries, thanks for the tip.
[02:17] <intelikey> or [esc]  :!q
[02:17] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: I am not sure about driver. I have not choosen anything explicitely. Just installed mplayer and using mplayer... can give you the (long) command line private...
[02:17] <gnomefreak> #java=no help they never heard of their own programs :(
[02:17] <BigKahuna> quacker, You have a hauppauge card installed?
[02:17] <dorto> what do i need to do to fix this error:  "GDM could not write to your authorization file. This could mean that your home directory could not be opened..."
[02:17] <BigKahuna> lillpelle, Did the ubuntu installation automatically config the card for you?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> dorto,  what was the command you used?
[02:18] <dorto> can i edit /etc/inittab to boot into console and then create a new user? can i boot into console when home directory is not writable?
[02:18] <dorto> gnomefreak: i got that error when ubuntu started
[02:18] <lillpelle> BigKahuna: yes, it must have... I am just using the same command line as I did in Fedore Core 4... so it must have worked directly...
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhh
[02:18] <quacker> BigKahuna, I've got an original ATI Radeon AIW
[02:19] <DRAGON_Ultra> morning
[02:19] <intelikey> dorto you can boot to console by adding single to the grub boot command
[02:19] <quacker> And, no, it's not installed on Ubuntu (yet) -- on my todo list for before the holidays.
[02:19] <sorush20> m
[02:20] <intelikey> dorto you can remove the symlink to gdm in /etc/rc2.d if you always want to boot to console
[02:20] <quacker> I found a good howto writeen by a user that claims to have done it using the DRI Project's capture driver and bookmarked it though.
[02:20] <sorush20> get out of vim
[02:21] <dorto> intelikey: when grub bootloader comes, i need to press e and type 'boot single'?
[02:21] <intelikey> dorto yes
[02:21] <dorto> intelikey: will it be able to boot even if my home directory is unwriteable as the error above says?
[02:21] <intelikey> or edit the boot line then just boot
[02:22] <intelikey> yes single is root not your home user
[02:22] <dorto> oh, good
[02:22] <dorto> thx intelikey :)
[02:22] <dorto> will reboot now
[02:22] <sorush20> hi
[02:23] <svaksha> hi all
[02:23] <intelikey> methinks sorush20 rebooted to get out of vim
[02:24] <svaksha> the resolv.conf file gets rewritten ever half hour, can some one help with this
[02:24] <ZoZo-> How come I cant copy files from a windows ntfs disk to my linux disk ? =(
[02:24] <gnomefreak> lol intelikey
[02:24] <sorush20> intelikey: how did you know I rebooted?
[02:24] <quacker> svaksha, install a cacheing DNS proxy if you want more control of name resolution
[02:24] <neurocyte> svaksha, are you using dhcp?
[02:24] <sorush20> also In the error log I get the message that kdm fireup is failing
[02:25] <quacker> what is kdm fireup?
[02:25] <derek_> hola
[02:25] <svaksha> yes, dhcp.. the problem persists even after editing /etc/network/interfaces address, netmask and gw
[02:25] <sorush20> intelikey: what was the last thing you said I should do?
[02:25] <derek_> intelikey, can you help with partitioning now? I'm running ubuntu live
[02:25] <intelikey> sorush20 can you boot that box to safemode/recovery/single or something like that so you can access the files and use grep ?      if so  'grep -Hie"Checking battery state" /etc/rcS.d/* '  and tell us what is posting that message then we will see about skipping the folling process.
[02:25] <quacker> you can use shorewall or firestarter if you're looking for an easy to use 'personal firewall' UI.
[02:25] <intelikey> that ^
[02:26] <quacker> Bastille if you want something more 'concise'.
[02:26] <intelikey> derek_ sure  what are you wanting to do ?
[02:26] <allison_1984> I need some help with the format type ? anyone :)
[02:26] <brenner> ZoZo-: where are you trying to copy to?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> quacker,  last i heard shorewall was no where near easy :(
[02:26] <intelikey> tell me the desired end and we'll see if we cant find a way to get there
[02:26] <ZoZo-> brenner, From a mounted ntfs disk to /home/zozo/desktop
[02:26] <quacker> svaksha, what exactly is the problem -- what is it that is not working?  Are webpages not resolving,
[02:27] <derek_> intelikey, I would like to set up the partitions for ubuntu install here
[02:27] <neurocyte> svaksha, you need to tweak your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:27] <quacker> gnomefreak, I have it and you know how lame I am!
[02:27] <testmachine> tweak?
[02:27] <testmachine> just edit
[02:27] <testmachine> :P
[02:27] <gnomefreak> firestarter is a good gui for the iptables
[02:27] <testmachine> its not tweaking its just edditing
[02:27] <testmachine> *grin*
[02:27] <quacker> (I prefer Bastille-interactive though)
[02:27] <intelikey> ok derek_ to you have any unallocated disk space ?
[02:27] <quacker> All these things are just iptables wrappers anyhow.
[02:27] <gnomefreak> hell im still trying to figure out sendmail :(
[02:27] <svaksha> neuro: what entries do i put there
[02:27] <ttf> hi all - can anybody tell me what kind of boot loader ubuntu is using on their livecd's?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:27] <intelikey> gkparted  i think is the partitioner
[02:28] <brenner> ZoZo-: my guess is you need to tweak the mounting settings for the ntfs partition
[02:28] <Toma-> can you make metacity windows snap to edges?
[02:28] <derek_> intelikey, yes.. plus I'd like to drop some partitions and used the total free to create appropriate partitions
[02:28] <frogzoo> hey reign any luck ?
[02:28] <ZoZo-> brenner, Even if I just want the information from the disk?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> quacker, i though shorewall was its own firewall it didnt use the iptables in kernel
[02:28] <intelikey> ok derek_ is it ide drive ?
[02:28] <allison_1984> which format is the best to retrieve a partiton that is ntfs....extended 2/ extended 3/ reiserfs / swap ?
[02:28] <sorush20> intelikey: I've just typed that command in  I don't know what to read there are log success messages and other messages.
[02:28] <willii> hello all trying to use command sudo alien --to-deb driver-ipn2220-2.10.03.2004-lark.i586.rpm in breezy badger the driver is there I know here is what I get andy108@heis:~$ cd /etc/dffd
[02:28] <willii> andy108@heis:/etc/dffd$ sudo alien --to-deb driver-ipn2220-2.10.03.2004-lark.i586.rpm
[02:28] <willii> Password:
[02:28] <willii> Sorry, try again.
[02:28] <willii> Password:
[02:28] <derek_> yes intelikey
[02:28] <willii> File "driver-ipn2220-2.10.03.2004-lark.i586.rpm" not found.
[02:28] <willii> andy108@heis:/etc/dffd$
[02:28] <frogzoo> will nuff with the spam already
[02:29] <gnomefreak> willii,  dont paste in here
[02:29] <spola> what are some of the better p2p clients i need if i want to download stuff ?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell willii about paste
[02:29] <willii> sorry about that
[02:29] <frogzoo> spola: azureus is excellent - emule v good
[02:29] <intelikey> sorush20 we are looking for the filename in /etc/rcS.d/ that spits out that message.
[02:29] <spola> frogzoo, thx
[02:29] <brenner> ZoZo-: *nod* think so.  someone told  another guy to do that when he couldn't copy stuff over. i could be wrong though
[02:29] <allison_1984> I want to grab back a partition that has been assigned for windows to ubuntu !
[02:29] <neurocyte> svaksha, depends on what you want it to do (or not do)
[02:29] <Toma-> spola: what network do you want to connect to?
[02:29] <quacker> SHOREWALL(8)                                                                                                                        SHOREWALL(8)
[02:29] <quacker> NAME
[02:29] <quacker>  shorewall - the Shoreline firewall, an iptables based firewall
[02:30] <allison_1984> which format is the best to retrieve a partiton that is ntfs....extended 2/ extended 3/ reiserfs / swap ?
[02:30] <quacker> grrr -- stupid klipboard
[02:30] <ZoZo-> brenner, If I dont have any clue at all how to tweak the mounting settings.. What should I do then ? ^
[02:30] <gnomefreak> quacker,  ok maybe it does use the kernels iptables than
[02:30] <frogzoo> oooh.. rude words in kanji
[02:30] <intelikey> derek_ ok then in a terminal type 'sudo gkparted /dev/hda '    and see what it does.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> or has its own set i dont know scared to use it
[02:30] <spola> Toma-, well i have nicotine now which basically has everything i want, but my gf wants to listen to mainstream stuff so i need something popular :p
[02:31] <allison_1984> I need some help with the format type ? anyone :)
[02:31] <Toma-> spola: gtk-gnutella or limewire is an exellent option
[02:31] <allison_1984> spola > love nicotine ...  :)
[02:31] <intelikey> sorush20 did you find it ?
[02:31] <claes> A little question. Anyone tried Fedora Directory Server on ubuntu?
[02:31] <brenner> ZoZo-: i'm no expert on it myself :-/ chuck your /etc/fstab output onto the pastebin i guess as a start
[02:31] <derek_> sudo: gkparted: command not found
[02:31] <sorush20> intelikey: I think its the hotplug subsytem that is failing not the battery cecking status, because the battery check gets and OK at the end of it..
[02:31] <quacker> allison_1984, I highly recommend you use Ext3 and nothign else unless you have a special purpose in mind
[02:32] <sorush20> intelikey: I think I need to fix the hotplug system
[02:32] <spola> d i need some extra repositories for azureus, gtk-gnutella and limewire  ?
[02:32] <frogzoo> allison_1984: quacker ditto - - ext3
[02:32] <ZoZo-> brenner, Okay.. Ill see if I can do anything :p Another thing though.. To get access to /home/zozo/D, that is mounted with root, with my ordinary user.. How should I do then..? A friend told me to do chmod 777 /home/zozo/D but that did not work neither =/
[02:32] <quacker> And stay away from ReiserFS like the plague in any case -- it's still significantly unstable.  I and several people I know have lost entire partitions because of it.
[02:32] <allison_1984> quacker > I want that partition to be able to store media files..instead of the /home file ......
[02:33] <intelikey> ok you can comment out that section sorush20 if it is in the same file,  else  "rm /etc/rcS.d/*hotplug "   and boot and see what happens.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> who lost a partion and how?
[02:33] <derek_> intelikey, sudo: gkparted: command not found
[02:33] <quacker> allison_1984, you can put anything you want on most filesytsems.  What are you trying to do -- change the mount point (what it's root directory is called in the filesystem)?
[02:33] <brenner> ZoZo-: hang on, you can't even get access to the dirs in /home/zozo?  maybe that's causing the ntfs copy failure
[02:33] <allison_1984> frogzoo > well I am getiing it back to Ubuntu !
[02:33] <frogzoo> allison_1984: unless you have very special needs - ext3 (and you're not running a server, so ext3 it is)
[02:34] <ZoZo-> brenner, Cant get access to it with zozo.. Only with root..
[02:34] <willii> how to make breezy badger 5.10 more secure on a unsecure wireless network?
[02:34] <intelikey> derek_ ok do  'sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '   it should be on the live cd.
[02:34] <allison_1984> quacker > /dev/hda5
[02:34] <quacker> allison_1984, there are several optimizations you can make if you intend to write very large files
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell willii about wpa
[02:34] <allison_1984> quacker > what's the best according to you ?
[02:34] <quacker> allison_1984, that is not your mount point -- that is the name of the device as seen in Linux.
[02:34] <frogzoo> willii: install firestarter install tripwire turn off unneeded services
[02:35] <brenner> ZoZo-: then yeah, something to do with chmod or chown.  i don't really know. :-/  time to defer to other people.  sorry
[02:35] <allison_1984> quacker > so what should I be doing ?
[02:35] <derek_> intelikey,
[02:35] <quacker> allison_1984, You can choose anything (directory name) you want and mount it anywhere underneath root
[02:35] <derek_> FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive
[02:35] <derek_>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:35] <ZoZo-> brenner, Thanks alot with the help anyway :)
[02:35] <allison_1984> quacker > should I also indicate a mount point to /boot ?
[02:35] <cyhatch> spola: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76700 ?
[02:35] <intelikey> allison_1984 what is in   /dev  is the device node    the mount point is listed in /etc/fstab
[02:35] <derek_> intelikey, a moment ago I was running windows on the same disk
[02:35] <ZoZo-> How do I "chown" so I get access with my normal user on a root mounted hdd/map please?
[02:36] <sorush20> intelikey: could you give me the command line again please?
[02:36] <allison_1984> quacker > mount point is the point of access..if I understood correctly ?
[02:36] <willii> thanks frogzoo I take a look at that
[02:36] <quacker> allison_1984, you don't have to, but you can -- again it's up to you.  Will you be installing GRUB, LILO, ELILO, SILO, or MBR in the master boot record?
[02:36] <quacker> allison_1984, yes
[02:36] <intelikey> derek_ yes  hda is the disk with all the partitions on it.
[02:36] <derek_> intelikey, why that fatal error?
[02:36] <intelikey> "rm /etc/rcS.d/*hotplug "
[02:36] <frogzoo> quacker: lilo? the pain... the pain....
[02:37] <intelikey> fatal error ?
[02:37] <derek_> FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive
[02:37] <derek_>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:37] <intelikey> hmmm ok
[02:37] <quacker> i.e. $ mount -loop -iso9660 /dev/sdb /media/cdrom -ro
[02:37] <willii> general point here I was in a new internet cafe in central london uk and they had breezy badger on all computers  wow
[02:37] <intelikey> derek_ 'sudo fdisk -l '   and find out what the address is.
[02:37] <allison_1984> quacker > the thing is I have a dual boot and I had formatted this partition with ntfs on windows....now I want to utilise it with the Ubuntu OS .....
[02:38] <quacker> mounts your second SCSI device using the ISO 9660 filesystem at the  _MOUNT_POINT_ /media/cdrom
[02:38] <derek_> intelikey,
[02:38] <derek_> sudo fdisk -l
[02:38] <derek_> Unable to seek on /dev/hda
[02:38] <allison_1984> quacker > I have grub in the mbr
[02:38] <quacker> allison_1984, GRUB is a really good bet then
[02:39] <allison_1984> quacker > I run ubuntu almost exclusively now !!
[02:39] <brenner> willii: awesome
[02:39] <quacker> The Debian Sarge (Ubuntu Breezy) installer script for GRUB will scan all the storage devices it can find for other OSes and add them to a bootstarp menu which it will create in /boot/grub/menu.1st
[02:40] <jdky_> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to uninstall gnome bittorrent without uninstalling gnome-desktop?? it seems that its not possible
[02:40] <intelikey> wow derek_ that looks like the kernel on the live cd is not reading your hdd correctly.          derek_ you can do the partition work from the installer cd.  (assuming it works correctly)   just boot it and select "manuel partitioning"
[02:40] <allison_1984> quacker > I am in the disks manager menu
[02:40] <derek_> intelikey, select where?
[02:41] <intelikey> sorush20 progress ?
[02:41] <Toma-> jdky_: gnome-desktop is just a meta-package. wont remove gnome or anything else at all
[02:41] <spola> thank you cyhatch
[02:41] <FontPolice> quick question : where do the init scripts log to?
[02:41] <snorks> How come Ubuntu doesn't have make?
[02:41] <intelikey> derek_ when it askes about partitioning ?    it will ask erase entire disk , or manuel partitionling
[02:41] <jdky_> Toma, ok, that sounds good, could you explain me more of  this please
[02:41] <ZoZo-> How do you give access on a partition to another user from root? chown something ? :S
[02:41] <quacker> You can edit it with a text editor, and before doing that you can edit the arguments it passes by escaping the GRUB boot sequence by pressing 'p' (if you have a password) or 'e' to edit and following the instructions thereafter.  This is done to test boot arguments without changing the file GRUB reads them into memory from (menu.1st) to make sure they won't *#^$ your machine.
[02:42] <Toma-> jdky_: just use synaptic to remove it
[02:42] <podge> Oh, I would also like to know how to do that...
[02:42] <derek_> intelikey, okay.. but after finishing that step.. (that is after writing the changes to disk), it starts copying the files , which I don't want at the moment
[02:42] <intelikey> FontPolice /var/log/dmesg i think.    type 'dmesg'
[02:42] <jdky_> yes, i mean can you explain me the meta package thing
[02:42] <quacker> allison_1984, are you using he installer partitioner, or qparted from the Live CD?
[02:42] <intelikey> derek_  can i ask why ?
[02:43] <allison_1984> quacker > can I send you a screen shot ?
[02:43] <sorush20> intelikey: no progress I don't know how to stop hotplug subsystem from loading
[02:43] <derek_> intelikey, cuz I have to do something on it then in windows before installing linux
[02:43] <intelikey> derek_ see i'm not getting a clear picture of what you are trying to do.
[02:43] <Neo^> i need help with winetools
[02:43] <quacker> jpg or png okay -- no bmps please
[02:43] <jdky_> Toma, could you what a metapackage is?
[02:43] <allison_1984> quacker > I am in the disks manager/ partitions
[02:43] <quacker> DCC is fine
[02:43] <allison_1984> png
[02:43] <Juhaz> jdky_, meta package is a package that doesn't contain anything, but depends on bunch of other packages as an easy way of installing them all
[02:43] <Toma-> jdky_: well, the meta package 'says' it depends on a whole bunch of other packages, like gnome-applets, gnome-file-manager, but they dont depend on it.
[02:43] <derek_> intelikey, I got some ext3 partitions which I want to delete first
[02:43] <FontPolice> how about when you run them after you boot?
[02:43] <Neo^> apt-get cant find it and i have enable all repositories
[02:43] <FontPolice> to restart a service or something.
[02:44] <afd_> hi! I'm looking for cdemu ubuntu package, or a tool that does something similar (mount bin/cue cd images)
[02:44] <quacker> (TYVM for asking first -- you might noit believe how lame some people can be when asking for help -- hehehe)
[02:44] <jdky_> Juhaz and Toma, thank you for the help
[02:44] <intelikey> sorush20 i told you to remove the symlink in /etc/rcS.d/
[02:44] <aftertaf> Neo^:  apt-cache search wine
[02:44] <Toma-> firefox 1.7?
[02:44] <intelikey> derek_ you can do that from the setup disk like i said
[02:44] <quacker> allison_1984, what do you intend to do with the new Ubuntu install?  (video editing?)
[02:45] <intelikey> it will give you free reign over all partition work derek_
[02:45] <derek_> intelikey, but then it starts installing which I don't want :)
[02:45] <allison_1984> quacker > I am already on it...just loving it.....
[02:45] <sorush20> intelikey: what is the command for it sudo rm /etc/rc5.d/*hotplug
[02:45] <snorks> If you issue an install with ./install blabla, how do I uninstall it?
[02:45] <intelikey> sorush20 yes
[02:45] <snorks> Let's say the vmware player
[02:45] <allison_1984> quacker > been 5 days...and not looking back
[02:45] <allison_1984> :)
[02:46] <Neo^> aftertaf,  this is what i was using .. sudo apt-get install wine winetools  winetools
[02:46] <Toma-> snorks: dont. use 'checkinstall' instead of make install
[02:46] <frogzoo> ok I'm stupid - how do I get gtkwifi to run in my gnome taskbar?
[02:46] <allison_1984> quacker > in fact switched from Suse....got so many headaches there !!
[02:46] <factotum> what does checkinstall do? create a package?
[02:46] <quacker> ZoZo-, chown :<groupname> -R /* then add then the  user to the group (dirty solution)
[02:47] <aftertaf> Neo^:  what does the search show you?
[02:47] <snorks> Toma-: I never used "make install" only "./install".
[02:47] <Toma-> snorks: or, see if the make file contains a make uninstall option
 intelikey, I got some ext3 partitions which I want to delete first <---- <intelikey> derek_ you can do that from the setup disk like i said <--- and i asked you why you didn't want it to install after the partition work was done....  but now you say --><derek_> intelikey, but then it starts installing which I don't want :)
[02:47] <spola> hmmm i still can't find azureus in synaptic even after following the guidelines from the wiki. i uploaded my sources.list here: can someone please take a look to see whats missing ? (i did "select" sun's java instead of gjc's)
[02:47] <sorush20> intelikey: I keep getting no such file or directory
[02:47] <spola> whoops :-) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5303
[02:47] <podge> Hi folks. Just wondering, how do I change permissions on my ntfs partations permissions so that non-root users can access it?
[02:47] <quacker> allison_1984, I'm asking why you want optimization for large media files.
[02:47] <Toma-> well snorks, ./install is a program specific install. read the readme for that program
[02:47] <Neo^> aftertaf,  .. lots lol
[02:47] <snorks> Toma-: ok
[02:47] <intelikey> sorush20 you can check /etc/rc2.d also  it may be in there too
[02:47] <frogzoo> !tell spola about azureus
[02:47] <Neo^> <---kinda new to this stuff
[02:47] <snorks> A lot of your braincells
[02:47] <aftertaf> ahh. try grp tool on the end with a pipe ;)
[02:47] <quacker> You might consider making a RAID if you actually intend to do video editing.
[02:48] <snorks> wrong channel
[02:48] <freemanen> what is udev?
[02:48] <frogzoo> also, you need the multiverse repo
[02:48] <aftertaf> Neo^:  apt-cache search wine |grep tools
[02:48] <SirKillalot> hi, I cannot mount my CDrom drive anymore, there is an error, and if I "dmesg | tail" I get this:
[02:48] <aftertaf> freemanen:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDetection
[02:48] <SirKillalot> [4296647.703000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
[02:48] <SirKillalot> [4296647.703000]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[02:48] <SirKillalot> [4296647.983000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[02:48] <ZoZo-> quacker, Thank you.. I'll see if it works after it changed ownership on every file :p
[02:48] <intelikey> if there is no S##hotplug then hotplug shouldn't be starting at boot. sorush20
[02:48] <sorush20> intelikey: its no where rec1 2 3 4 5 .d
[02:48] <frogzoo> SirKillalot: pls don't spam here - usse pastebin
[02:48] <aftertaf> intelikey:  sorush20   dapper or breezy?
[02:49] <intelikey> sorush20 you did a 'ls /etc/rcS.d/ '  ?
[02:49] <Neo^> that done nuffin
[02:49] <pulver> anyone know where to find cool ubuntu bootsplash screens?
[02:49] <aftertaf> Neo^:  then you dont have the package available......
[02:49] <frogzoo> SirKillalot: have you tried rebooting?
[02:49] <intelikey> iirr breezy aftertaf
[02:49] <aftertaf> Neo^:  do you have uni/multiverse?
[02:49] <Toma-> pulver: the default one is cool enough :D
[02:49] <Neo^> yes
[02:49] <aftertaf> intelikey:  ah. with 2.6.15 ?
[02:49] <snorks> Which gcc to get?
[02:49] <aftertaf> Neo^:  weird.... firget wine then it sux ;P
[02:49] <Neo^> and enabled backports
[02:50] <Toma-> snorks: what are you compiling?
[02:50] <aftertaf> !wine
[02:50] <quacker> ZoZo-, understand that chowning entire partitions is not recommended if you are running executeables off of them that need their own groups (like the 'media', 'printers' or 'cdrom' groups taht are made by some implementations of gnome)
[02:50] <snorks> Toma-: I got asked for gcc during vmware player install
[02:50] <derek_> intelikey, "and i asked you why you didn't want it to install after the partition work was done.." - derek_ intelikey, cuz I have to do something on it then in windows before installing linux - derek_ intelikey, I got some ext3 partitions which I want to delete first
[02:50] <frogzoo> snorks: the stock synaptic one probly unless u have special needs
[02:50] <quacker> But you can 'chain' groups by using groupedit
[02:50] <Toma-> snorks: gcc-3.4
[02:50] <pulver> Toma-: lol yea its cool enough just would try something else
[02:50] <snorks> Toma-: First I didn't have make, and now I don't have gcc
[02:50] <frogzoo> !build_essentials
[02:50] <ubotu> frogzoo: Are you on ritalin?
[02:50] <quacker> and you can define aliases in yoiur sudoers list too
[02:50] <joachim-n> hi
[02:50] <Toma-> snorks: you actually baught vmware?
[02:50] <ZoZo-> quacker, Just trying to get access on them so I can copy them from the ntfs partition to the linux partition..
[02:50] <Toma-> bought
[02:50] <snorks> Toma-: No
[02:50] <joachim-n> is there a way to use shred recusively on directories?
[02:50] <pulver> something more blue
[02:51] <frogzoo> snorks: just install build-essential
[02:51] <intelikey> derek_ yeah looks like an impass
[02:51] <ZoZo-> quacker, But.. What if that did'nt work?
[02:51] <snorks> frogzoo: that's the exact word to apt-get?
[02:51] <quacker> ZoZo-, jsut use dd (or parted | gparted  |qparted) as root
[02:51] <frogzoo> yup
 intelikey, but then it starts installing which I don't want :)
[02:51] <derek_> intelikey, sorry, "impass"?
[02:51] <intelikey> oooops
[02:51] <snorks> frogzoo: was that yup for me
[02:51] <snorks> frogzoo: ?
[02:51] <frogzoo> yup yup
[02:51] <intelikey> that was a bump of the mouse.... sorry.
[02:51] <sorush20> intelikey: aftertaf i'm using breezy
[02:51] <derek_> np
[02:52] <quacker> dd if=targetpath/file of=destination
[02:52] <derek_> anyway, I think I'll try the install cd again
[02:52] <derek_> salut nico
[02:52] <Neo^> !wine
[02:52] <derek_> nico, est-ce que tu es le dessinateur?
[02:52] <sorush20> intelikey: shoudl I do a ls /etc/rc5.d/ now?
[02:52] <snorks> frogzoo: thank you
[02:52] <reign> frogzoo, you back ?
[02:52] <allison_1984> quacker > file transfer is taking eons !
[02:52] <frogzoo> hi reign how's it going?
[02:52] <derek_> nico_, est-ce que tu es le dessinateur?
[02:52] <intelikey> sorush20 yeah look for anything with hot in it's name   :)
[02:52] <frogzoo> !fr
[02:52] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:53] <quacker> ANd ZoZo- you will need FUSE (Files under uSerspacE) as well as NTFSTOOLS
[02:53] <quacker> ubotu, tell ZoZo- about ntfstools
[02:53] <quacker> (I wrote that entry -- heh)
[02:53] <quacker> fusermount ++
[02:54] <quacker> allison_1984, do hdparm
[02:54] <snorks> frogzoo: How come I could use ./install xxxxxx before, but not after I installed build-essential?
[02:54] <quacker> If everything looks normal,then it's just a large file relative to your controller I/O rate
[02:55] <frogzoo> snorks: permission prob? do you need root access?
[02:55] <intelikey> snorks does ./install exist ?
[02:55] <BigKahuna> anyone know when firefox 1.5 will be added to the repos?
[02:55] <reign> good thanks frogzoo
[02:55] <reign> yourself ?
[02:55] <Toma-> BigKahuna: it wont
[02:55] <allison_1984> quacker > what next ?
[02:55] <Toma-> for a while
[02:55] <snorks> intelikey: I just used it, but the installer asked for GCC, so I apt-get build-essential
[02:55] <frogzoo> reign: let's take this off channel - it will go easier methinks
[02:55] <quacker> ZoZo-, ntfstools is available by installing ntfprogs (i.e. $ apt-get install ntfsprogs)
[02:56] <snorks> frogzoo: It worked first. The second time, issuing the exact same command, doesn't work
[02:56] <quacker> allison_1984, I dunno -- where are you?
[02:56] <quacker> (now)
[02:56] <ZoZo-> quacker, Ahh so I dont need to compile it myself... Perfect as I dont have a clue howto :D
[02:56] <frogzoo> snorks: maybe it's already installed?
[02:56] <allison_1984> quacker > right here ! :)
[02:56] <Toma-> snorks: read the official documentation for it
[02:57] <snorks> frogzoo: Not when I had to cancel it because it didn't find gcc
[02:57] <frogzoo> reign: did you fix your problem?
[02:57] <intelikey> snorks all i was asking that for is to point out that ./ means the present working dir.   if the file is not in ./ then ./file wont work.   but you would get a BASH: ./file does not exist message.
[02:57] <frogzoo> snorks: you'll need to redo make config etc - because probly the old makefiles are looking for a diff version gcc
[02:57] <snorks> intelikey: Yep. I'm in the directory, and vmware-install.pl is the file I used ./install on. It worked the first time
[02:58] <quacker> ZoZo-, I gave tyou the package installer command (in the parentheses "("; ")", respectively )
[02:58] <ZoZo-> quacker, Yea, thank you :)
[02:58] <Toma-> snorks: youre ment to run ./vmware-install.pl
[02:58] <intelikey> snorks what error you get ?
[02:58] <Toma-> not install
[02:58] <quacker> ZoZo-, you might have to sudo it if you don't have a root shell or login console
[02:59] <snorks> Toma-: Thanks. Lol
[02:59] <snorks> intelikey: It's fixed
[02:59] <Toma-> snorks: log into your account on vmware.com and read the offical documentation :)
[02:59] <snorks> Toma-: Don't need account for vmware player :/ But I'll consider making one. Thanks for the tip
[03:00] <intelikey> now fess up and tell us about 'pebcak'
[03:00] <quacker> ZoZo-, 'ntfsprog' not ntfsprogs -- sorry
[03:00] <Toma-> oic..
[03:00] <quacker> (troglodyte)
[03:00] <frogzoo> reign: I'm wondering how you fixed your problem?
[03:00] <esculapius> hi
[03:01] <esculapius> do you know how to configure
[03:01] <snorks> Toma-: If an install gets interrupted, has it installed whatever prior to point of interrupt?
[03:01] <esculapius> ethernet modem
[03:01] <frogzoo> ethernet modem????
[03:01] <ZoZo-> quacker, ntfsprog did not work but ntfsprogs did.. But now I cant find it :D
[03:01] <frogzoo> esculapius: I think you want pppoeconf
[03:01] <intelikey> cable modem ?
[03:02] <Toma-> snorks: depends. afaik, if the vmware-install script stops, nothing gets installed
[03:02] <quacker> oops -- I better change the wiki
[03:02] <quacker> LOL
[03:02] <Toma-> its all done at the end
[03:02] <snorks> Toma-: Ok, it has :/ There's a /vmware in /etc now
[03:02] <frogzoo> anyone know the procedure to install gtkwifi ?
[03:03] <snorks> Toma-: Is there a way to uninstall it again? After that I'll read and not bug you again
[03:03] <Toma-> run it again with all the right gcc options
[03:03] <intelikey> ok it's all yours.
[03:03] <Lunz> Hi, has anyone successfully installed skype on their Ubuntu system???
[03:03] <Toma-> snorks: dont bother uninstalling, just install it again over the top but with the proper gcc
[03:03] <Toma-> Lunz: yep
[03:03] <quacker> ubotu, forget ntfstools
[03:03] <ubotu> quacker: i forgot ntfstools
[03:04] <Lunz> I've tried and failed Toma
[03:04] <quacker> ubotu, ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:04] <ubotu> okay, quacker
[03:04] <Lunz> I've got it going, but my contacts wont load
[03:04] <quacker> oops sawwy
[03:04] <Toma-> Lunz: whats so hard about "sudo apt-get install skype"?
[03:04] <snorks> Toma-: Do you know a keyword I can google to read up on that or?
[03:04] <quacker> one more time
[03:04] <Lunz> I'll give that a go.
[03:04] <Lunz> thanx
[03:04] <Toma-> snorks: "vmware player ubuntu host"
[03:04] <quacker> ubotu, ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support for Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprogs and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:04] <ubotu> ...but ntfstools is already something else...
[03:04] <frogzoo> !tell snorks about skype
[03:04] <quacker> ubotu, forget ntfstools
[03:04] <ubotu> i forgot ntfstools, quacker
[03:04] <snorks> Toma-: Since I have no idea how to point to a correct cgg
[03:04] <snorks> Toma-: gcc
[03:05] <Toma-> Lunz: you are using the ubuntu package from the repos right?
[03:05] <quacker> ubotu, ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support for Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprogs and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:05] <Toma-> snorks: "export CC=gcc3.4"
[03:05] <roberto_> hola
[03:05] <roberto_> ho
[03:05] <roberto_> hi
[03:05] <_jason> !ntfstools
[03:05] <ubotu> _jason: Not a clue
[03:06] <_jason> quacker, use "is" not "are"
[03:06] <roberto_> anyone can give me a list of repository ??Thanks :-)
[03:06] <roberto_> apt
[03:06] <quacker> _jason, 'ntfstools' are plural
[03:06] <frogzoo> roberto_: -> synaptic
[03:06] <Lunz> Hey Toma..
[03:06] <Toma-> !universe
[03:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:06] <_jason> ubotu tell roberto_ about easysource
[03:07] <Lunz> the error message that I get is " skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable"
[03:07] <Toma-> hmm
[03:07] <roberto_> thans...
[03:07] <Lunz> that's what I don't understand.
[03:07] <_jason> quacker, i know but ubotu didn't remember it.  Wasn't sure if it accpeted "are" but I guess it does.  Try starting it with a "no".  ubotu, no ntfstools are...
[03:08] <Lunz> it is this set of library files which are preventing me to install skype on my ubuntu
[03:08] <Lunz> could there be any way around it?
[03:08] <quacker> _jason, NM, I just did it in #ubuntu-offtopic, and it worked  =>
[03:08] <Toma-> !info libqt3c102-mt
[03:08] <Toma-> hmm
[03:08] <_jason> quacker, yep seems to be working now
[03:09] <Lunz> event not found is the response when typing in that
[03:09] <Toma-> Lunz: try getting libqt3-mt instead
[03:09] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i remove one nic card that i have eth0 and let my eth1 be there
[03:10] <Toma-> !info libqt3-mt
[03:10] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[03:10] <Lunz> ok
[03:10] <allison_1984> quacker > thanks for the info
[03:11] <Lunz> I've typed in "!info libqt3-mt" and it hasn't found the event... though I'm going to install the file in synaptic pacakge manager.
[03:11] <greatjones> hello, how do i update ubuntu? do i have to burn a cd with the .iso image and then reinstall the OS?
[03:11] <Toma-> Lunz: yeh... the !info thing was just for the irc channel.... not a command
[03:11] <Toma-> greatjones: it'll be the easiest way
[03:11] <osfameron> hi, anyone know how I can get Sound Juicer to rip at full speed?
[03:12] <osfameron> It only goes 1.2x, the drive can handle 10x or more
[03:12] <Lunz> ooh whoops.. ok didn't know that!
[03:12] <Toma-> osfameron: you may need to enable dma
[03:12] <greatjones> thank you toma - will i lose the data i created on my hd?
[03:12] <snorks> Toma-: Where do I define which GCC to use? I have found the documents for the installation
[03:12] <osfameron> Toma-: ooo, cool
[03:12] <osfameron> !dma
[03:12] <Toma-> greatjones: did you make a seperate /home partition when you first installed?
[03:12] <Lunz> yeah Toma those libraries have already been installed.
[03:12] !lilo:*! A small regional server has lost connectivity; affected users, 195
[03:13] <greatjones> i'm not sure, toma - i used the default Ubuntu settings
[03:13] <Jowi> hello all
[03:13] <Toma-> snorks: "export GCC=gcc-3.4
[03:13] <Toma-> arrr woops
[03:13] <Toma-> snorks: "export CC=gcc-3.4"
[03:13] <snorks> Toma-: It doesn't say anything after that + it doesn't work :/
[03:13] <Toma-> greatjones: id say you would loose it all :S unless you back it up to cd or something
[03:14] <Neo^> how can i test my repsitories ?
[03:14] <Toma-> snorks: it wont. just compile it again
[03:14] <Lunz> hmm
[03:14] <Neo^> +o
[03:14] <quacker> allison_1984, did you set your clustersize with the 'useage' option in the Installer's partitioner?
[03:14] <greatjones> ok thank you toma. i wish ubuntu had an automatic update function like windows has
[03:14] <quacker> set it to 'large files'
[03:14] <deltron> greatjones: it does
[03:14] <Lunz> I thought it did greatjones.
[03:14] <Toma-> greatjones: oh, you can. its just a little messy
[03:14] <quacker> You might also try setting it to 'synchronous' i/o transfer mode
[03:14] <quacker> ;-)
[03:15] <deltron> there's auto-apt
[03:15] <greatjones> how do i perform an automatic update?
[03:15] <allison_1984> quacker > no...I am gonna look up some forums.......
[03:15] <deltron> or cron-apt
[03:15] <quacker> allison_1984, you were going to send a screenshot too...
[03:15] <allison_1984> quacker > lol...it ain't going......
[03:16] <allison_1984> quacker > stuck at 0%
[03:16] <quacker> allison_1984, in general, if you have contiguosus files over 1GB, you want to use the largest cluster size possible.
[03:16] <Jowi> greatjones: In theory, you can add "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade)" as a cron-job for root
[03:17] <quacker> I don't believe that Ext3 FS supports 64K clusters yet, but I'm sure it does 4K at least,
[03:17] <allison_1984> quacker > are you talking about the installation ?
[03:17] <greatjones> Jowi - so there is no simple way to do it? i.e., there is no "button to push"?
[03:17] <deltron> 64K clusters seem like a waste of space
[03:17] <osfameron> Toma-: when I make those changes to hdparm.conf to enable DMA, do I have to reboot or is there a way to stop/restart just one service?
[03:17] <quacker> allison_1984, I'm talking about the partition where you will write large media files
[03:18] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: probly just 'ifconfig eth0 down' - or disable the i/f in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:18] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: or just disable the nic from the network panel
[03:18] <reign> frogzoo
[03:18] <Toma-> osfameron: run "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/harddrive_dev_entry
[03:18] <Toma-> "
[03:18] <osfameron> greatjones: I have a button in my status bar in top right
[03:18] <reign> soz, dude can you still help me ?
[03:18] <greatjones> Jowi - i am looking for the easiest way to update ubuntu, hopefully retaining my data.
[03:18] <osfameron> greatjones: it-s a red circle, it comes up when there are pending updates
[03:18] <frogzoo> reign: yes, you keep disappearing - would you mind if we take this off channel?
[03:18] <reign> yea sure
[03:19] <reign> sorry, im just at work, keep getting a bit busy
[03:19] <quacker> Also, you have more than one hard disk drive of the same speed and on separate ATA controllers (three or more would be optimal), I would seriously consider using RAID level 0
[03:19] <allison_1984> quacker > its about 15G....windows ntfs filesystem....I want to be able to access the disk..
[03:19] <osfameron> Toma-: sure, it was already set to on, the wikipage on DMA suggests then checking that it's enabled in hdparm.conf (which it wasn't)
[03:19] <Toma-> osfameron: i see...
[03:20] <greatjones> osfameron: i don't have a red button here. i'm trying to update ubuntu to the latest version, which I think is 5.10 (??) mine is, if i'm not mistaken, version 5.04
[03:20] <quacker> If you opt to do this, you will need to identical partitions... uh, ntfs?!?  I thought you said you wanted to read/wrie large media files, not access ntfs.
[03:20] <snorks> Toma-: build-essential didn't give me gcc-3.4. That's why the export thing didn't work. Anyway, now it worked, but I get asked for this: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:20] <snorks> kernel?
[03:20] <snorks> Toma-: Where does Linux store that?
[03:21] <Toma-> snorks: now you need to install the kernel headers. :S
[03:21] <quacker> NTFS support in Linux is best provided by an emulator which uses the original (M$'s) ntfs drivers together with VFS.
[03:21] <snorks> Toma-: ugh
[03:21] <osfameron> greatjones: oh, I see.  That's the general system updater, not the Hoary->Breezy upgrade.
[03:21] <Toma-> snorks: /lib/modules/kernel-number/kernel ...iirc.
[03:21] <osfameron> eeek!  101 pending updates, I have been rather naughty
[03:21] <allison_1984> quacker > sorry...I lost you......O...o......
[03:21] <Jowi> greatjones: well, to add a cron job is not hard. "sudo su" to get a root prompt. Then "crontab -e" to add a scheduled job. "man crontab" for help. it is pretty straightforward. That is for automatic updates. But it seems to me as if you wish to update your ubuntu version. I advise you to follow the guide for that. Remember that it is not possible to update windows from 2000 to XP in an easy way either.
[03:22] <Jowi> !breezyupdate
[03:22] <greatjones> osfameron: is that's what's called the "ubuntu update manager"?
[03:22] <ubotu> Jowi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:22] <Jowi> !breezyupgrade
[03:22] <ubotu> somebody said breezyupgrade was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:22] <quacker> ntfstools is good for copying, resizing, shrinking and moving ntfs partitions but accessing individual files is still a reall big PAIN.
[03:22] <quacker> allison_1984, you never said anything about NTFS -- ALL you asked about was 'large media'.
[03:22] <quacker> =P
[03:23] <greatjones> jowi: i'm not so much worried about what version of ubunui i have as i am worried about having my software up to date. so that's the easiest way to do it?
[03:23] <allison_1984> quacker > I have the option thru disks manger in Ubuntu to format the partition......to either extended2/3/reiserfs/xfs/swap........
[03:24] <osfameron> greatjones: yeah, you can open it from System->Administration as well
[03:25] <Jowi> greatjones: yeah, if you don't plan to upgrade to breezy (hoary still have some months left in it and will recieve plenty of updates) make a crontab job out of it. For example, make the upgrade command run once per week or something like that.
[03:25] <greatjones> osfameron: thank you
[03:25] <allison_1984> quacker > just wanted to know.....what format was the best...sorry...my mistake....tho I thought I did mention ntfs.........
[03:25] <greatjones> jowi: thank you
[03:26] <ZoZo-> quacker, chown nor chmod works to get rights on /home/zozo/D what can I do then ? =/
[03:27] <quacker> ZoZo-, are you root?
[03:27] <ZoZo-> quacker, "zozo" aint root, I mounted it with root and cannot change rights =/
[03:28] <quacker> uhhh....  I mean are LOGGED IN as root
[03:28] <quacker> su
[03:28] <ZoZo-> quacker, Yea
[03:28] <quacker> Then you should be able to do anything unless you mounted -ro
[03:28] <ZoZo-> But not with zozo ?
[03:28] <ZoZo-> I mounted -t ntfs
[03:29] <quacker> what, 'zozo' the directory, or 'zozo't he user account?
[03:29] <ZoZo-> zozo the user account
[03:30] <snorks> Toma-: But you gotta agree with me though? How does a noob know about the directory of C header files that matches his running kernel, or how does a noob google/man it?
[03:30] <quacker> ZoZo-, it depends if you have administrative priveleges.  In Ubuntu, the default user is automatically added to the sudoers file.
[03:30] <allison_1984> quacker > ntfs day for you today !
[03:30] <Toma-> snorks: vmware isnt for noobs snorks
[03:30] <Toma-> snorks: vmware is basically a developers tool for debugging systems. not emulating windows to play counterstrike
[03:31] <ZoZo-> quacker, Can I make the user zozo "root" or give him the same priveleges ?
[03:31] <snorks> Toma-: I disagree. Installing software without apt-get/emerge isn't for noobs
[03:31] <quacker> heh -- I struggle with it myself quite a bit since I'm and IT &* T consultatnt; and people are ALWAYS asking about it here.  (It's always NTFS day here.)
[03:31] <snorks> Toma-: I know about vmware in Windows
[03:31] <quacker> I consider it worth the trouble for every windows luser I can help to emancipate from the Evil Empire...
[03:31] <quacker> ;-D
[03:31] <allison_1984> quacker > lol....
[03:31] <ZoZo-> Haha :D
[03:32] <snorks> Toma-: I use it on a daily basis
[03:32] <allison_1984> quacker > well....I am gonna format it to extended 3 then .......and just start dumping my music files there.....
[03:32] <snorks> Toma-: And the counter-strike thing was offending
[03:32] <snorks> Toma-: Thanks for all your help thus far
[03:32] <ZoZo-> Maybe I really should install windows again.. :p
[03:33] <allison_1984> ZoZo > nice try !
[03:33] <Toma-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare
[03:33] <ZoZo-> I just feel like a pain in the ass for everyone with my alltime newbie questions allover :D
[03:33] <Toma-> itll be mostly the same process
[03:34] <allison_1984> ZoZo > I am a nOOb too....
[03:34] <butcherbird> Seveas, unbann me man, Im getting tired of using proxy servers
[03:34] <Siph0n> newbs unite :)
[03:34] <ZoZo-> ^
[03:34] <allison_1984> SiphOn > you make us sound like zombies.... ;-)
[03:35] <Siph0n> allison_1984, lol.... nah......
[03:35] <ZoZo-> Argh.. This is stupid.. Why doesnt it work =(
[03:35] <ZoZo-> quacker, Cant you like connect to my computer ? ;D
[03:36] <MickMcMack> quacker, the Evil Empire, eh? :)
[03:36] <jvai> hey every1.. gm, i use squid proxy servr, & firestarter, why i dl'ed squid, i have no idea, do i really need it?
[03:37] <allison_1984> ZoZo > hit your question again...
[03:38] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, I try to give the user zozo rights to /home/zozo/D with "chown zozo:zozo /home/zozo/D" and "chmod 777 /home/zozo/D" but none of those works.. Tried with -R too but that didnt work neither =(
[03:38] <jvai> what r the benefits of using a proxy?
[03:38] <IRCMonkey_> Wow, IRC worked this time
[03:38] <BooZee> how can I read the local mail (like root@local)
[03:39] <quacker> MickMcMack, CanEHjun, eh?
[03:39] <Jowi> ZoZo-: try to use "sudo chown -R zozo:zozo /home/zozo/D"
[03:39] <allison_1984> ZoZo > r u on a network / or r u talking about a new partition ?
[03:39] <matrix-ubuntu-c> does ppp got arp
[03:39] <ZoZo-> Jowi, Doint now
[03:39] <Mabus06> If I set the videoram higher, would it make games run better? I have 1gig of ram and I think I can spare some.
[03:39] <allison_1984> ZoZo > there you go ....
[03:39] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, A new partition that I mounted with root
[03:40] <allison_1984> ZoZo > I was just on the verge of mounting a new partition too......
[03:40] <quacker> ZoZo-, I charge $24-35/hour for remote assistance (unless it's something technically sexy taht I;ve never done before and want to test on someone else's boxen first) -- heh
[03:40] <quacker> =oD
[03:40] <ZoZo-> Damn ;D
[03:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c>  whereis arp
[03:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> arp: /usr/sbin/arp /usr/share/man/man8/arp.8.gz /usr/share/man/man7/arp.7.gz
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[03:40] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hwo do i install arp
[03:41] <brenner> Mabus06: an onboard card? a laptop i assume?
[03:41] <Mabus06> brenner, an onboard card yes. Nope, not a laptop.
[03:41] <frogzoo> matrix-ubuntu-c: I don't see the need for arp for ppp
[03:41] <ZoZo-> Jowi, And that did not work neither =(
[03:41] <quacker> After all, opens source developers and their downstream technicianen must manger too.
[03:41] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, I mounted my with "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /home/zozo/D
[03:41] <BooZee> question - how can I read the local mail (like root@local) ?
[03:41] <ZoZo-> quacker, What if I buy you dinner then ? ;D
[03:42] <brenner> Mabus06: it's not worth it imo, just buy a seperate card, upgrading the mboard if necessary.  but i guess it depends on what sort of games
[03:42] <Jowi> ZoZo-: NTFS can not put user flags like that
[03:42] <allison_1984> ZoZo > and you have files already on that partition ?
[03:42] <frogzoo> BooZee: probly 'sudo mail' will do it
[03:42] <quacker> ZoZo-, you'd save money if you jsut paid my fees (min. 1/2 hour)
[03:42] <BooZee> frogzoo: is that the only way?
[03:42] <ZoZo-> Jowi, It worked yesterday.. :S
[03:42] <frogzoo> whaaat??? there's no 'mail' in ubuntu
[03:42] <Mabus06> brenner, what do you mean "not worth it, buy a separate card"... I don't want to buy any new hardware, that costs money where I'm from..
[03:43] <BooZee> frogzoo: and what if I want to check another user's mail ?
[03:43] <MB|Can0n> Any idea why CC=gcc-3.4; export CC doesnt work ?  It doesnt change it to 3.4, just keeps it on 4. I have installed the right packages
[03:43] <ZoZo-> quacker, I wonder.. It's soooo much to fix here ;D Like my sound drivers too :p And to get mplayer and make that work :p
[03:43] <ZoZo-> allison_1984, Yea, had that partition on a windows install
[03:43] <frogzoo> BooZee: su
[03:43] <quacker> ZoZo-, you will learn much, young padawan, before you are through.
[03:43] <Jowi> shopping time. bbl
[03:43] <mahangu> isnt cedega int he repos?
[03:43] <frogzoo> BooZee: but if you're the mail admin - you can go straight to /var/spool/mail ;)
[03:43] <allison_1984> rotfl
[03:44] <quacker> hint: crimsun is the ALSA guru here.
[03:44] <djk_> mahangu: cedega costs money..
[03:44] <MickMcMack> I thought you could get the Cedega source free?
[03:44] <djk_> MickMcMack: no.
[03:44] <MickMcMack> It's just the prepackaged binaries that they charge for? :s
[03:44] <MB|Can0n> There is a cvs-cedega and wine can handle games almost aswell as cedega =)
[03:44] <MickMcMack> Hmmz, my bad.
[03:44] <brenner> Mabus06: well, most onboard cards are to put it simply: crap for games
[03:44] <mahangu> djk_, oh right, so there is no other FOSS way to play directx games under Linux?
[03:44] <quacker> ZoZo-, diners enroute probably takes credit card payments over the telephone -- hah!
[03:45] <djk_> MB|Can0n: wine doesn't have directx9 support does it?
[03:45] <brenner> Mabus06: but like i said, depends on the game
[03:45] <rlangly> hey guys -- so is Ubuntu like the up and coming distro folks are moving to now?  I'm normally a Slackware guy, but I ordered the CD's from ubuntu yesterday.  I'm anxious to try it out, but what does it offer that other distros don't have?
[03:45] <jvai> hey, is having squid proxy & firestartr, beneficial? do i even need squid?
[03:45] <MB|Can0n> djk_: Dont know
[03:45] <quacker> ZoZo-, are you trying to change the permission on an NTFS filesystem?!
[03:45] <mjr> djk_, it does have some support, not fully functional yet
[03:45] <ZoZo-> quacker, Yea..
[03:45] <quacker> chown WILL NOT work on ntfs
[03:45] <allison_1984> rlangly > get ready  to wait.....
[03:45] <ZoZo-> Damnit.. Why dont I have any irl friends that knows linux ? .p
[03:45] <djk_> mahangu: FOSS? i don't speak abbreviation..
[03:46] <rlangly> allison_1984, how do you mean?
[03:46] <quacker> sorry, I didn't connect the two
[03:46] <ZoZo-> What works on ntfs ? :p
[03:46] <mahangu> rlangly, there are lots. id download the iso
[03:46] <frogzoo> rlangly: mostly it's the ease of install - most recent h/w just works - & the packages are reasonably stable
[03:46] <mahangu> djk_, Free and Open Source Software
[03:46] <quacker> man ntfstools
[03:46] <allison_1984> rlangly > just download it from a mirror
[03:46] <oKtosiTe_> No1Viking: you're welcome!
[03:46] <quacker> !restricted
[03:46] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:46] <djk_> mahangu: wine.
[03:46] <ZoZo-> quacker, When I do apt-get install ntfstools it stands it's already installed.. But I cant find it :S
[03:46] <allison_1984> rlangly > I ordered mine...but someone told me...prolly three months to get it mailed to me
[03:46] <jvai> so, having a proxy, has no security enefits
[03:47] <rlangly> It'll be probably after Christmas before I  can mess with it anyway, but I'll download it if the CD's haven't arrived by the time I want to work with it.  Myconnection is fast, so would only take an hour or so to get it.
[03:47] <mahangu> djk_, wine and directx?
[03:47] <frogzoo> allison_1984: 3 weeks is more typical, i believe
[03:47] <rlangly> allison_1984, ahh, I'll download it then.  Just heard the CD's are really groovy lookin'.
[03:47] <frogzoo> allison_1984: actually, depends on what you have ordered
[03:47] <MB|Can0n> Any idea why CC=gcc-3.4; export CC doesnt work ?  It doesnt change it to 3.4, just keeps it on 4. I have installed the right packages
[03:47] <allison_1984> rlangly > I downloaded mine..and its running like a dream
[03:47] <rlangly> does Ubuntu support rpm, apt-get, or all the above?  Just curious.
[03:47] <quacker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:48] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: will only work if the makefiles use CC
[03:48] <allison_1984> Frogzoo ? I ordered the 3 cds pack...minimal
[03:48] <quacker> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[03:48] <djk_> mahangu: like mjr just said, it has some support, not fully functional yet. i know it works with older games.
[03:48] <jvai> >:(
[03:48] <frogzoo> allison_1984: 3 weeks & x fingers
[03:48] <MB|Can0n> It does, I get [4389888.711000]  osslinux: version magic '2.6.12 386 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.12-10-386 386 gcc-3.4'
[03:48] <djk_> mahangu: but i doubt something like civ4 would work in wine, albeit.. civ4 doesnt seem to work on windows either :p
[03:48] <allison_1984> Frogzoo >  like maybe four weeks ago and no news as yet
[03:49] <frogzoo> :(
[03:49] <mahangu> djk_, Counter Strike? :)
[03:49] <quacker> "This compatibility was achieved in the Wine way by using the original Microsoft Windows ntfs.sys driver. It emulates the required subsystems of the Microsoft Windows kernel by reusing one of the original ntoskrnl.exe, ReactOS parts,...."
[03:50] <quacker> ZoZo-, ntfstools are called by parted and directly at the command line -- id you *read* the Wiki that ubotu sent youi?
[03:50] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: which gcc-3.4
[03:50] <jvai> i cant keep my firewall up while on the company's network, i get mail thru pop
[03:50] <djk_> mahangu: never played that :) apparently seems to work according to http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=871
[03:51] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:51] <brenner> rlangly: it's deb based
[03:51] <jvai> & all the xp workstations here have sp1, only
[03:51] <jvai> do i need squid also?
[03:51] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: did you remake 'make config' after the install  ?
[03:51] <MB|Can0n> After I installed gcc-3.4 ?
[03:51] <quacker> rlangly, yes, and rpm is supported through the apt-get 'translation' package for Debian, 'alien'.
[03:52] <frogzoo> or ./configure or whatever
[03:52] <MB|Can0n> Uhm.. I just run ./oss-install
[03:52] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: nope, I'd start from square 1
[03:52] <aftertaf> weekend :)
[03:52] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: Explain a little, what square 1 ?
[03:53] <rob_p> jvai:  What are you trying to accomplish?
[03:53] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: what are you building?
[03:53] <MB|Can0n> OSS
[03:53] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: kernel ?
[03:53] <quacker> jvai, you shouldn't have to take your whole firewall down just to let POP (TCP port 110) through
[03:53] <jvai> i want a fastr browsing experience, on my p3/486mhz/thinkpad
[03:53] <jvai> tho it's mad fast now
[03:53] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: 2.6.12-10-386
[03:54] <frogzoo> jvai: ff 1.0.7 is nice
[03:54] <jvai> do i ned squid proxy?
[03:54] <jonathon> hey anyone got any experience with samba? i can see other samba shares on the network but even tho i shared a file i cant see it anywhere
[03:54] <quacker> just add your POP3 server to your firewall's ACL on port 110.
[03:54] <jvai> i have ff 1.07
[03:54] <frogzoo> jvai: so what's the prob?
[03:54] <quacker> jvai,  do you even read the answers people are giving you?!
[03:54] <quacker> =P
[03:54] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: no, start again, what are you trying to compile?
[03:54] <jvai> i have squid on here, if i dont need it.. i'll ghost it
[03:55] <BlueDevil> does anyone know of a voice conferencing program for linux similar to TeamSpeak?
[03:55] <jvai> i want to knw if it's beneficial
[03:55] <snorks> BlueDevil: maybe ventrilo?
[03:55] <trappist> jvai: if you didn't set it up on purpose you don't need it
[03:55] <djk_> BlueDevil: isn't there a Linux-TeamSpeak2-client?
[03:55] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: Im trying to compile OSS so I can have music and hopefully, hardware mixing
[03:55] <jvai> no1 answer earlier
[03:55] <quacker> jonathon, check the permissions on the fileshare
[03:55] <BlueDevil> djk_: yes, but it uses OSS, not ALSA
[03:55] <frogzoo> MB|Can0n: OSS = open source software?
[03:56] <rob_p> jvai:  A local caching proxy would have the ability to speed some things up (like frequently requested data from same site, etc.) significantly if configured properly.
[03:56] <quacker> jvai, any proixy is abig waste of time unless you *need* a proxy
[03:56] <thenuke> frogzoo: maybe like open source sound or somthing :)
[03:56] <frogzoo> ah
[03:56] <MB|Can0n> frogzoo: http://www.opensound.com/ =)
[03:56] <snorks> open sound systems
[03:56] <thenuke> open sound system to be exact..
[03:57] <quacker> if you just want to cache pages so they load faster (as rob_p suggest) then get wwwoffle or something lightweight -- squid is a monster of the deep,not to mention as big security hole if not confed properly
[03:57] <BlueDevil> snorks: ventrilo doesn't have a linux client :(
[03:57] <som1> guys.. when i use bash and try to cvs checkout and it asks me for a password and its wrong and i ctrl+c to get outta there i cant see what im writing and when i click enter or something it doesnt write on another line.. and it works fine with csh
[03:57] <som1> :)
[03:57] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, there is teamspeak2
[03:58] <eeaaxx> when i tried to upgrade hoary to breezy, the firefox browser does not have fonts?
[03:58] <jvai> ok.. *uninstalling squid*
[03:58] <jvai> i also set ff's cache to 0
[03:58] <quacker> wwwoffle can be set to accept remote connections as well or using tcpwrapper or inetd
[03:58] <BlueDevil> theD3viL: i know, but it uses OSS and doesn't work with aoss; even with OSS doesn't work sometimes
[03:58] <som1> i use cvs 1.12.9 and bash-3.00.16(1)-release
[03:58] <jvai> ok.. i was on the assumption that proxy = security
[03:59] <frogzoo> eeaaxx: I'm guessing you didn't preinstall the metapackages? ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop ?
[03:59] <quacker> jvai no
[03:59] <som1> who should i report this stuff to ? :)
[03:59] <jonathon> quacker what permissions where?
[03:59] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, buy a soundblaster soundcard for 10-20$
[03:59] <BlueDevil> ?!
[04:00] <BlueDevil> for what?
[04:00] <Moiana> Hi there! Does anybody know of a way to install tetex 3.0 on ubuntu?
[04:00] <BlueDevil> this works just fine
[04:00] <quacker> That is one reason they are set up, but you the understand what you are doing.  A proxy server is *not* the same as a firewall, althoughit can provide *some* of the same functions.
[04:00] <jvai> *squid* is ghost, on my box
[04:00] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, that you can play oss and oss
[04:00] <jvai> ok
[04:00] <theD3viL> BlueDevil, without any aoss
[04:00] <quacker> jvai, are you <shudder>) running an Internet node?
[04:01] <BlueDevil> theD3viL: oss apps lock /dev/dsp; another soundcard would behave the same
[04:01] <quacker> jonathon, what question, where?
[04:01] <BlueDevil> besides, the soundcard does hardware mixing
[04:02] <jonathon> quacker my smb isnt working so well
[04:02] <jvai> lol.. noo, but when i'm @ work. i use this notebook as a workstation, but i cant function w/ my firestartr on!, so, using the proxy @ work*automaticly* we have a rh server facing the outside
[04:02] <frogzoo> any hints on how I get the gtkwifi applet into the menu bar?
[04:03] <quacker> jonathon, are you on two connected machines RN?
[04:03] <frogzoo> jvai: you just need to reconfigure firestarter to allow your mail through
[04:03] <jvai> i had proxy set to *automatic* on ff & network settings
[04:03] <jonathon> two computers on a router
[04:03] <jvai> oooo ok @ frog
[04:04] <brenner> Moiana: any specific reason why you need t3?
[04:04] <quacker> jonathon, what UI for the Samba host (the machine with the files on it)?
[04:04] <jonathon> whats UI mean?
[04:04] <frogzoo> UI= user interface
[04:04] <jonathon> im using gnome
[04:05] <quacker> (U)ser (I)interface (i.e. KDE, Gnome, Xcfe, virtual terminal...)
[04:05] <contradictoryben> what controls the look of the menu fonts in VLC?
[04:05] <jonathon> before i start bothering u im going to restart and try one thing first
[04:05] <contradictoryben> e.g. many menu entries have !D after them (presumably instead of an ellipse)
[04:06] <Ng> BlueDevil: not true, a soundblaster live supports many applications opening /dev/dsp :)
[04:06] <Ng> as do some other cards
[04:06] <Ng> such hardware mixing is like golddust in soundcards though, *still* :(
[04:06] <jvai> i have my fonts set to *best contrast/RGB/greyscale* it looks nice, & clear
[04:07] <strider_> I'm getting a failed to construct test pipeline for 'XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)' error while starting totem
[04:07] <strider_> which is the default sink
[04:07] <strider_> Any ideas?
[04:07] <quacker> ubotu, UI is (U)ser (I)interface (i.e.X-windows  KDE, Gnome, Xcfe (GUIs--(G)raphical (U)ser (I)nterface(s)) console, virtual terminal (CLIs--(C)ommand (L)ine (I)nterface(s))...)
[04:07] <ubotu> quacker: okay
[04:07] <quacker> ubotu GUI is see 'UI'
[04:07] <ubotu> okay, quacker
[04:07] <jvai> resolution on fonts set @ 96 d.p.i
[04:07] <quacker> ubotu CLI is see 'UI'
[04:07] <ubotu> ...but cli is already something else...
[04:07] <jvai> on gnome
[04:08] <quacker> !cli
[04:08] <ubotu> I guess cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[04:08] <brenner> strider_: mine's set to xwindows (no sv)
[04:08] <Ng> strider_: generally that one is. Try the No Xv one though, it might be that your graphics card drivers can't do xv
[04:08] <brenner> *xv
[04:08] <quacker> righto
[04:08] <quacker> !smb
[04:08] <ubotu> No idea, quacker
[04:08] <quacker> !samba
[04:08] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:08] <strider_> ah just got the ati 8.19.10 drivers.
[04:08] <contradictoryben> so e.g. the first VLC menu item is "Quick Open File!D" ... why is this?
[04:09] <strider_> I'll try the ati one
[04:09] <Howie> Question: I am trying to setup Plugger on Ubuntu Linux V-5.04 couild someone help me please. I find the Plugger websight confusing to a new Linux user.
[04:09] <strider_> and no xv and simple sdl works fine
[04:09] <frogzoo> what's the difference between xv & simple sdl ?
[04:09] <eeaaxx> anybody knows how to solve my problem in firefox?
[04:10] <frogzoo> eeaaxx: maybe try installing ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <eeaaxx> frogzoo: i'll try
[04:12] <brenner> eeaaxx: or tell us exactly what you mean by "no fonts"
[04:14] <eeaaxx> brenner: it means, there are no fonts only underscore is viewed
[04:15] <brenner> eeaaxx: where? in the menus? in the webpages themselves?  see what i mean?
[04:15] <johnny> hello evreyone
[04:15] <Howie> Is there a howto script somewhere that explains in detail how to setup Plugger on Ubuntu V-5.04.
[04:16] <eeaaxx> brenner: menus, webpages
[04:17] <occy> crimsun, hey... is there a default char limit on the topic of a channel?
[04:18] <brenner> eeaaxx: do as frogzoo suggested first...do other apps act the same way?
[04:18] <deltron> occy: yeah
[04:18] <occy> deltron, hmm
[04:18] <occy> k thanks
[04:18] <deltron> not sure what it is here
[04:19] <deltron> each irc server is different
[04:19] <deltron> err network
[04:19] <Cityismine> Hey I just installed firefox, but it doesn't show up under system tools, I'm kinda new to ubuntu, can someone help me out
[04:19] <Cityismine> *firestarter
[04:19] <frogzoo> Cityismine: it's under internet
[04:19] <eeaaxx> brenner: ill try. thanks
[04:19] <contradictoryben> does no-one know how to make vlc look nice with ubuntu?
[04:19] <Cityismine> I meant firestarter, not firefox, sorry
[04:20] <brenner> contradictoryben: it's gtk1 based isn't it?
[04:20] <kana01> bonjour
[04:20] <occy> So there is no way to get Firefox 1.5 without messing up your system?  as I see FF is dependant upon ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <frogzoo> Cityismine: logout & back in
[04:20] <kana01> hello
[04:20] <kana01> i need help
[04:20] <deltron> guten tag
[04:20] <deltron> hehe
[04:20] <erUSUL> kana01, ask
[04:21] <kana01> english or french plz
[04:21] <frogzoo> occy: what you going to do about all the  plugins that will break? or just keep ff1.5 in your local dir
[04:21] <contradictoryben> brenner: i'm using the ubuntu package ... it seems to have multiple interfaces (e.g. wxwidgets) but I _assume_ it's basically gtk
[04:21] <kana01> im new in ubuntu and in linux
[04:21] <occy> frogzoo, all the plugins?  what else is there besides flash?  heh
[04:21] <deltron> english
[04:21] <kana01> i wouldl ike install winex
[04:21] <occy> frogzoo, and flash doesn't work?
[04:21] <brenner> contradictoryben: yes, but gtk1 is butt-ugly (e.g. xmms), while gtk2 is purdier (e.g. bmp)
[04:21] <kana01> but
[04:21] <frogzoo> occy: gxine, realaudio for starters
[04:21] <kana01> how to do that?
[04:22] <kana01> plz help me
[04:22] <vapor> hey guys.. i've installed upower.. (similar to splashy) and tests with $ upower startup | shutdown worked fine. but on booting oder shutting down, i'm just in verbose mode. i can't see any bootsplashpicture. anybody an idea how to fix it?
[04:22] <contradictoryben> brenner: there must be ways to make gtk look nice... or at least output the correct characters
[04:22] <erUSUL> kana01, use synaptic. search for it and mark for instalation. finally press aply
[04:22] <brenner> contradictoryben: and if it *is* gtk1, you just have to wait till they port it to gtk2
[04:22] <Cityismine> Is there any other way to update the menus, maybe through command line??
[04:22] <frogzoo> kana01: open synaptic & install pkgs wine & xwine
[04:22] <occy> frogzoo, heh, have never used those.
[04:22] <vapor> *or shutting down
[04:23] <brenner> contradictoryben: you were getting !D characters right?
[04:23] <blanky> can i fsck the drive im running on
[04:23] <kana01> ok i teste thanks erUSUL and FROGZOO
[04:23] <rob_p> Cityismine:  killall gnome-panel
[04:23] <deltron> kana01: install xwine
[04:23] <blanky> I keep getting CRC errors when un-rarring a file (cylic redundancy check)
[04:23] <frogzoo> blanky: no - file systems have to be unmounted to fsck
[04:23] <blanky> so i should do it from a live cd, got it
[04:23] <djk_> frogzoo: xwine is just a GUI for wine
[04:23] <erUSUL> Cityismine, smeg
[04:24] <frogzoo> djk_: yup, that's why you need wine as well
[04:24] <djk_> frogzoo: she asked for wineX
[04:24] <kana01> i don't have wine and xwine
[04:24] <johnny> hi
[04:24] <djk_> or he
[04:24] <kana01> when i search i can't find
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell kana01 about repos
[04:24] <johnny> can some one give me a name of a good linux firewall
[04:24] <djk_> kana01: you'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list ..
[04:24] <johnny> plz?
[04:24] <kana01> !tell erusul
[04:24] <djk_> johnny: iptables
[04:24] <BooZee> I got a problam with flash!!
[04:24] <kana01> djk
[04:25] <johnny> iptables?
[04:25] <kana01> im noob in ubuntu
[04:25] <erUSUL> kana01, you need to add all repositories see the msg ubotu send you
[04:25] <frogzoo> djk_: you are right, hmm.. time to turn in
[04:25] <djk_> johnny: yes
[04:25] <luis_> hi everybody
[04:25] <djk_> frogzoo: hehe :)
[04:25] <deltron> hi dr. nick
[04:25] <luis_> any dapper user around?
[04:25] <johnny> djk_: is that the name of the firewall or isit the actualy iptables?
[04:25] <twilight> luis_, yes
[04:25] <kana01> erusul
[04:25] <kana01> have you got msn?
[04:25] <erUSUL> johnny, firestarter i personally use firehol both are "front-ends" to iptables
[04:25] <kana01> for explain me plz ?
[04:25] <djk_> johnny: it's the actual iptables... firestarter and bla are just frontends ;)
[04:25] <deltron> luis_: you're a brave man if you wanna use dapper ;)
[04:26] <BooZee> I can't see text inside flash! (for an example - when right clicking on a movie, and going to the settings - I can see only the pics and no text!!)
[04:26] <luis_> twilight, got problems with HAL?
[04:26] <djk_> kana01: are you interested in wine or winex?
[04:26] <erUSUL> kana01, have you read what ubotu told you?
[04:26] <twilight> luis_, no. I've problems with udev
[04:26] <trappist> johnny: I use ipkungfu
[04:26] <brenner> dapper = next release?
[04:26] <kana01> im french
[04:26] <Oceansblue> hello
[04:26] <trappist> !fr
[04:26] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:26] <kana01> and i wan't test ubuntu
[04:26] <luis_> i've trying, but to no avail
[04:27] <johnny> thx
[04:27] <johnny> yall
[04:27] <johnny> brb
[04:27] <luis_> no soundcard, but it shows in the device manager
[04:27] <erUSUL> kana01, i'm spanish... ;)
[04:27] <kana01> and erUSUL have you got msn?
[04:27] <kana01> hola :)
[04:27] <twilight> luis_, kernel?
[04:27] <twilight> try with the 2.6.12-6
[04:27] <twilight> ops
[04:28] <twilight> luis_, 2.6.15-6, sorry
[04:28] <Cityismine> Do I need a firewall??  Cause my router crashed, and now I'm plugged directly into my dsl modem
[04:28] <luis_> latest newest shinest twilight
[04:28] <kana01> im in synaptic
[04:28] <kana01> what i have to do?
[04:29] <deltron> edit the sources to add universal
[04:29] <luis_> twilight, 2.6.12-9-686
[04:29] <courtney_> :)
[04:29] <kana01> kerusul
[04:29] <twilight> luis_, many things are changed..hotplug will be replaced by coldplug/udev/kernel features
[04:29] <luis_> twilight, that is what apt-get gives me
[04:29] <erUSUL> kana01, open Configuration-->Repositories
[04:30] <luis_> yeah, i've been reading so
[04:30] <erUSUL> kana01, mark all the repositories
[04:30] <kana01> where is configuration??
[04:30] <twilight> luis_, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-6, and try it
[04:30] <luis_> twilight, what bothers me is that dapper sees the card
[04:31] <kana01> erusul im in private chat with you
[04:31] <twilight> luis_, less /etc/sndstat . is all ok?
[04:31] <rob_p> Cityismine:  That's debatable.  Some see the need, others don't.  Ubuntu doesn't have any 'Net facing daemons by default (no servers configured to listen on the external interface).  However, there's something to be said for layered security.  Depends on how much you're willing to be inconvienenced by running a local firewall on your box.
[04:32] <kouwe> on a new installation of ubuntu with freeNx on it, is a firewall protecting the ports?
[04:32] <kouwe> *blokcing
[04:32] <clarkee> freeNx ?
[04:32] <mjr> kouwe, no
[04:32] <twilight> luis_, sorry.../dev/sndstat
[04:32] <luis_> twilight, /etc/sndstat: No such file or directory
[04:32] <clarkee> why woudl that block anything
[04:32] <mjr> there's no firewall on by default
[04:32] <arnducky> rob_p do netstat -tnl
[04:32] <clarkee> if you want a firewall, get FireStarter
[04:32] <clarkee> synaptic has it
[04:32] <kouwe> mjr, ok but in my config i have port 8888 but i cant ocnnect on it
[04:33] <kouwe> and when i try 2 connect on 22 with knx it says something with no sshd
[04:33] <djk_> clarkee: there already is a firewall..iptables :p
[04:33] <arnducky> Ubuntu listens on port 631 (UNIX print services) if you have cupsd or lpd installed
[04:33] <erUSUL> kana01, freenode blocks priv msgs
[04:33] <rob_p> arnducky:  Ok... nothing!
[04:33] <clarkee> djk_: :p silly
[04:33] <kana01> arf
[04:33] <luis_> twilight, /dev/sndstat: No such device
[04:33] <kana01> erusul do you speak french?
[04:33] <twilight> so..this could be a problem luis_
[04:33] <arnducky> It also listens on 22/23 sshd/telnetd
[04:33] <luis_> twilight, the volume applet is greyed out
[04:34] <rob_p> arnducky:  Not by default!  Only if you install those servers.
[04:34] <luis_> twilight, The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[04:34] <arnducky> And of course, 135, 137, and 139 (sambad)
[04:34] <kana01> !tell kana01 about repos
[04:34] <twilight> luis_, /dev/dsp exists?
[04:34] <kouwe> in my node i have this -> SHD_PORT=8888 <- so i want to connect with Knx to port 8888
[04:35] <erUSUL> kana01, no sorry :( only galician, spanish and english
[04:35] <arnducky> arnducky, rob_p my pint is that most users will have at least one of those services, perhaps without realizing that they open Net facing ports
[04:35] <rob_p> arnducky:  Again, *IF* you install those servers... in which case, you'd possibly benefit from a local firewall in the instance that you wanted finer granularity over who can access the services.
[04:35] <kana01> have you got MSN??
[04:36] <luis_> twilight, nope
[04:36] <arnducky> You are prompted to install these things by tonnes-0-GUI-scriptlets when setting up a Breezy
[04:36] <ZoZo-> Hehe.. How can you install a windows over a ubuntu install..? :)
[04:36] <johnny> hey
[04:36] <johnny> i downloaded firestarter and it dose not work?
[04:36] <twilight> luis_, i believe that 2.6.15-6 fix the problem
[04:37] <arnducky> rob_p, look at Ubuntu's services manager -- they *ARE* built-in, (at least with ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop); some may not be turned on.
[04:37] <ThePyromaniac> johnny you have to run it each time you want it to load, put it in the startup list
[04:37] <johnny> it came up with this error "Failed to execute child process "firestarter.sh" (No such file or directory)"
[04:37] <luis_> twilight, linux-image-2.6.15-6
[04:37] <luis_>  package cannot be found
[04:37] <ThePyromaniac> guys, how can i get Rhythmbox to be able to edit IDV tages?
[04:38] <johnny> how do i put it in the start up list?
[04:38] <arnducky> rob_p, IMO, *every* desktop user can benefit from a 'local firewall' (firewalls do not only filter/block incoming ports).
[04:38] <jvai> johnny. uninstall/reinstall, but thru synaptic
[04:38] <twilight> luis_, you/re on 386?
[04:38] <arnducky> But I'm just a paranoid duck... heh...
[04:38] <rob_p> arnducky:  Some of those servers are installed by default (such as postfix) however, they are configured to listen on local loopback only.  You have to specifically configure them to listen on the external interface.
[04:38] <luis_> yeah
[04:38] <johnny> ok
[04:38] <twilight> luis_, linux-image-2.6.15-6-386
[04:38] <ThePyromaniac> johnny go System -> Administration -> Services
[04:39] <rob_p> arnducky:  While I happen to agree with you, many are to easily flustered by having to deal with one.  As I said in my initial comment, some see the benefit, others don't.
[04:39] <arnducky> rob_p, and that conf is doen first time somebody says, 'hey I want my laptop to print' or I need to share a file, or if they're simply curious and start clicking on admin tools.
[04:39] <johnny> k, thanks
[04:39] <ThePyromaniac> nono
[04:40] <erUSUL> ThePyromaniac, use easytag
[04:40] <ThePyromaniac> johnny System -> Prefferences -> Sessions
[04:40] <ThePyromaniac> then its on Startup
[04:40] <arnducky> rob_p, if you agree with me then help me spread the gospel of security -- heh.  Encourage poor intimidated lusers, support, and ej00fikate.
[04:40] <ThePyromaniac> erUSUL that never works for me, says its not allowed
[04:40] <kana01> erUSUL
[04:41] <arnducky> besides, firestarter is no harder than TPF ((T)iny (P)ersonal (F)irewall) for WinBLOWs
[04:41] <jvai> do u have to inable "universe" to use firestartr?
[04:41] <luis_> twilight, downloading...
[04:41] <erUSUL> kana01, ??
[04:41] <jvai> i have universe repositories
[04:41] <|Kouwe|> all the freeNX howto's are saying that i have a SSHD and it should also be in init.d but i cant reach it... Where is it?
[04:42] <johnny> what shall i do for start up command should i do this "firestarter -a"
[04:42] <jvai> lol.. is tpf the default fw in sp1 for xp?
[04:42] <ThePyromaniac> johnny look in the menu editor, whatever it is in there
[04:42] <jvai> just type firestater in the terminal, press enter
[04:42] <arnducky> jvai,no they ripped off their own
[04:43] <ThePyromaniac> gksudo /usr/sbin/firestarter i used to use
[04:43] <arnducky> err 'code' their own f/w that is
[04:43] <jvai> lmao
[04:43] <johnny> where is the menu editor?
[04:43] <ThePyromaniac> you'd have to use sudo with either, then it asks for password on login
[04:43] <|Kouwe|> all the freeNX howto's are saying that i have a SSHD and it should also be in init.d but i cant reach it... Where is it?
[04:43] <ThePyromaniac> is it su -password instead or sudo?
[04:43] <arnducky> Who knows what M$ steals from other hackers on a daily basis when the source is secret, obfuscated, or released under strict NDAs
[04:44] <opnsrc> I try to run an MP3 file and it says, Totem could not play 'file ... (the name of the file)' Audio Codec 'MPEG1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled
[04:44] <opnsrc> How do I fix it?
[04:44] <|Kouwe|> sudo su ThePyromaniac
[04:44] <arnducky> (the fact they 'stole' DOS in the first place has been well documented and a leopard doesn't change it's spots)
[04:44] <johnny> where is the menu editor
[04:44] <ThePyromaniac> stil asks for a password
[04:44] <opnsrc> M$ is stupid
[04:44] <|Kouwe|> your user password
[04:44] <ThePyromaniac> johnny just firestarter will load it
[04:44] <arnducky> |Kouwe|, tuen it on
[04:45] <arnducky> err tuen=turn
[04:45] <opnsrc> M$ only got to the top by stealing and patenting prior art
[04:45] <|Kouwe|> how amducky
[04:45] <ThePyromaniac> [kouwe]  the point is i want the command to give it the password
[04:45] <opnsrc> that they never came up with
[04:45] <arnducky> sshd in Ubuntu runs as a 'service' --heh.  ( rob_p and I wer *just* discussing that)
[04:45] <ThePyromaniac> i dont want to put it in the popup box or type it in seperatly
[04:45] <opnsrc> IE: with the menus for IPOD. APPLe came up with those menus, M$ simply took them and patented them afterwards
[04:45] <erUSUL> |Kouwe|, which sshd
[04:45] <arnducky> |Kouwe|, got kde?
[04:45] <opnsrc> M$ is too stupid to come up with their own ideas
[04:45] <arnducky> man init.d
[04:45] <johnny> so i just type in firestarter and the -a to start it up on startup and thats it
[04:45] <opnsrc> they steal ideas from others and patent them
[04:46] <johnny> i can get into menue editor then?
[04:46] <ThePyromaniac> but you can understand that if someone has a good feature you just "borrow" it, people have been doing thatfor years
[04:46] <opnsrc> M$ flat out steals it
[04:46] <opnsrc> They don't "borrow" it
[04:46] <opnsrc> they patent it
[04:46] <|Kouwe|> arnducky: yes kde
[04:46] <opnsrc> They steal it and patent it
[04:46] <jvai> i'm tryin to set up my gyrl's xp/home box, "as close to unbuntu as possible".. i have spybot s&s, w/ tea timer wrapped around ie, i have her logging in a limited account, fw'd, OO2, on there
[04:46] <ThePyromaniac> ha! firestarter doesnt work when you type that
[04:46] <K_Dallas> opnsrc, one side of problem is us patent office! how on earth they accept a patent for double-clicking :)
[04:46] <|Kouwe|> arnducky: this is what my suse says when trying to connect
[04:46] <|Kouwe|> The remote host (xxx:22) could not be reached, or it does not have a running SSH daemon
[04:46] <opnsrc> Even though they didn't even come up with the feature in the first place
[04:46] <ThePyromaniac> gksudo /usr/sbin/firestarter does :p
[04:46] <arnducky> or just use KDE-button --> Utilities --> Services
[04:46] <opnsrc> I have no clue
[04:46] <opnsrc> and menus for the IPod
[04:46] <kana01> erUSUL help me plz
[04:46] <johnny> how do i start it then?
[04:47] <opnsrc> Especially coming from M$, who didn't even come up with those menus
[04:47] <erUSUL> opnsrc, #ubuntu-offtopic exist for a reason ;)
[04:47] <ThePyromaniac> put gksudo /usr/sbin/firestarter in the sessions startup
[04:47] <opnsrc> Sorry
[04:47] <opnsrc> people were talking about the topic
[04:47] <ThePyromaniac> however how can i pass a command the password?
[04:47] <jvai> ok johnny, the gui for firestarter should b in *applications-->system tools*
[04:47] <arnducky> |Kouwe|, ?
[04:47] <erUSUL> kana01, i 'm trying. have you enabled repositories in synaptic??
[04:47] <opnsrc> Anywho, how can I fix this MP3 player problem?
[04:47] <ThePyromaniac> jvai yes but he wants autoload
[04:47] <jvai> it should have prompt'd u for a password
[04:47] <kana01> i don't understand
[04:48] <kana01> what is the repositorie
[04:48] <ThePyromaniac> jvai how do we stop it askign for password too, lol
[04:48] <jvai> ooh
[04:48] <ThePyromaniac> i thought i saw something like su -password command
[04:48] <Jowi> hello all
[04:48] <johnny> its not there
[04:48] <johnny> for some strange reason i reinstalled it twice
[04:48] <kouwe> arnducky, command for the services?
[04:48] <kouwe> and check/start sshd
[04:49] <opnsrc> what program plays MP3's in Ubuntu that I can install?
[04:49] <opnsrc> or is there one already installed but is just not the default player?
[04:49] <ThePyromaniac> opnsrc you using gstreamer?
[04:49] <jvai> when u do it....  but then it would leav it open "for any1 that access that box, the power to tamper w/ it"
[04:49] <opnsrc> yeah
[04:49] <deltron> opnsrc: totem
[04:49] <erUSUL> they are web sites in wich there are packages for installation if you enable them you can isnstall thing from it.
[04:49] <opnsrc> no totem
[04:49] <arnducky> kouwe, I already said -- scroll back
[04:49] <opnsrc> I'm using Totem
[04:49] <jvai> ?? @ johnny
[04:49] <opnsrc> It says it needs an Audio Codec
[04:49] <deltron> xmms, vlc
[04:50] <arnducky> or /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:50] <erUSUL> kana01, read this web page https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:50] <ThePyromaniac> opnsrc gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:50] <kouwe> yes and it isnt present
[04:50] <kouwe> in the init.d filder
[04:50] <kouwe> folder*
[04:50] <opnsrc> wait, so totem is for Movies and gstreamer is for Mp3's ?
[04:50] <opnsrc> Because I had Gstreamer and it didn't play movies
[04:50] <arnducky> kouwe, I told you to use KDE
[04:50] <erUSUL> kana01, is in english but very clear with screenshots
[04:50] <kouwe> yes i am now on my KDE interface
[04:50] <ThePyromaniac> gstreamer does EVERYTHING
[04:50] <arnducky> Utilities --> Services
[04:50] <ThePyromaniac> what movies didnt play?
[04:50] <kouwe> (dutch version)
[04:50] <opnsrc> and for some reason my OS doesn't want me to have both at once
[04:50] <kouwe> but i aint seeing any services
[04:50] <ThePyromaniac> nono
[04:51] <kana01> ok
[04:51] <jvai> w/ totem i can play everything but dvd's & wmp files
[04:51] <ThePyromaniac> opnsrc gstreamer is like a backend type thing. totem uses gstreamer
[04:51] <arnducky> If it's not there, then all I can suggest is using aptitude to find and install it
[04:51] <opnsrc> oh ok
[04:51] <ThePyromaniac> jvai it can play dvd's too :D
[04:51] <jvai> how?
[04:51] <opnsrc> thanks
[04:51] <ThePyromaniac> just go into synaptic and type gstreamer and the filetype
[04:51] <ThePyromaniac> it does AVI's if you wrestle hard enough
[04:51] <jvai> i cant play blockbuster's dvds
[04:52] <erUSUL> !dvd
[04:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[04:52] <jvai> mines play avi files effortlessly
[04:52] <arnducky> kouwe, did you CLICK ont he KDE 'Start Buttun', scroll up to the 'utilities' menu looking for 'services'
[04:52] <jvai> libdvdcss, is.. the end of the rainbow.. i vcant find it
[04:52] <arnducky> errr or the 'Start Button' would werk two!
[04:52] <Jowi> there should even be a gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse that installs all codecs
[04:53] <kouwe> arnducky, nope sorry not there :(
[04:53] <arnducky> hmmm...
[04:53] <arnducky> try right clicking on kicker and choosing configure
[04:53] <kouwe> ok
[04:53] <arnducky> (maybe it's isntalled but unchecked)
[04:53] <kouwe> ill check it
[04:53] <ThePyromaniac> so... how can i pass the root password to a command without typing it seperatly?
[04:53] <kana01> OKE
[04:53] <kana01> its ok
[04:54] <arnducky> Also do $ apt-cache search sshd
[04:54] <erUSUL> ThePyromaniac, you shouldn't
[04:54] <kana01> now???
[04:54] <arnducky> or Synaptic --> Search....
[04:54] <ThePyromaniac> erUSUL is there no way?
[04:54] <erUSUL> kana01, have you enabled the repositories??
[04:54] <kouwe> nope, aint int the menu editor either
[04:55] <windowsrefund> ThePyromaniac, look into ssh keys with that use the command= attribute and do not have passphrases
[04:55] <kana01> yes
[04:55] <opnsrc> I just decided to apply all those gstreamer plugins so I don't get any more of those problems
[04:55] <opnsrc> Thanks
[04:55] <ThePyromaniac> :)
[04:55] <kouwe> arnducky, cant u check the shortcut in your menu editor and then ill try that command?
[04:55] <arnducky> ThePyromaniac, whyever would yoiu want to do that?  su, sudo, gksu, et. al. protect you from typing your root pw in plaintext
[04:55] <jvai> open up firestarter, click on "help"  to go to firestarter's homepage, the answers r there
[04:55] <kana01> now i active all?
[04:55] <contradictoryben> is libiconv bundled with some other ubuntu package?
[04:56] <ThePyromaniac> arnducky well when i log in i have firestarter autoloading. therefore when it asks me for a password to load that is time when stuff could be going through
[04:56] <ThePyromaniac> so if it loads it without asking me it saves valuable seconds
[04:56] <ThePyromaniac> but i see you're point so nevermind
[04:56] <erUSUL> kana01, you are trying to install wine, right? now press reload and then search for wine
[04:56] <rob_p> kouwe:  Launch it manually with, "sudo services-admin" at the command prompt.
[04:56] <kouwe> sudo: services-admin: command not found
[04:56] <kana01> i have find and i have install
[04:57] <opnsrc> It works, thanks
[04:57] <windowsrefund> anyone else here excited about gnubuntu?
[04:57] <arnducky> KDEPanel --> Configure Panel --> Menus (Tab) --> Edit Kpanel (button)
[04:57] <kana01> now if i want play to cs what i have to doing???
[04:57] <jvai> when i'm out of office(ethernet) i switch to wifi @ home & cafe's.. firestarter starts automaticlly,
[04:57] <rob_p> kouwe:  Oh... KDE... :-)
[04:57] <jvai> i ca ntoggle from wired /wireless
[04:58] <arnducky> ThePyromaniac, I'd make a sudoers entry
[04:58] <erUSUL> kana01, so you haave installed wine, winex successfully?
[04:58] <kouwe> rob_p, yes indeed. arnducky not present
[04:58] <arnducky> then any account can run it at any time, not just at startup
[04:58] <kana01> no just wine and xwine
[04:58] <kana01> i don't have winew
[04:58] <kana01> winex
[04:58] <arnducky> kouwe, did you do that apt-cache search ?
[04:59] <erUSUL> kana01, i do not know never used wine my self, sorry. You can google around a bit for a how to.
[04:59] <trappist> it's called cedega these days
[04:59] <ThePyromaniac> hmm, i downloaded the xwine package and it says "Error doesnt work, you must install it"
[04:59] <kouwe> maybe i need to install sshd? because its not on the system
[04:59] <kouwe> arnducky, nope lets try?
[04:59] <XiCillin> automatix is awesome
[04:59] <kana01> erUSUL
[04:59] <arnducky> copy paste it from here (in your scroll buffer)
[04:59] <kana01> now how i use windows exe?
[04:59] <trappist> kana01: wine filename.exe
[05:00] <kana01> in the terminal?
[05:00] <trappist> yeah
[05:00] <kouwe> arnducky, apt-cache search aint working
[05:00] <arnducky> ?!?
[05:00] <arnducky> Do you mean it returns a null string, or do you mean you get an error?
[05:00] <kouwe> error :/
[05:01] <windowsrefund> what's automatix?
[05:01] <kouwe> in dutch about a pattern...
[05:01] <romany> Hi everyone. Sorry if it's off topic, but is possible to run Skype on ubuntu ppc? My guess is not.
[05:01] <arnducky> like bash: apt-cache: command or file not found
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> no it's not
[05:01] <arnducky> ???
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> romany: no it's not
[05:01] <kouwe> apt-get is working bot search aint
[05:02] <arnducky> try $ sudo apt-cache search sshd
[05:02] <romany> Kamping_Kaiser: Is there VIP besides GnomeMeeting that you would recommend?
[05:02] <jvai> question: is unbuntu w/ the default/untouched iptables as secure as xp w/ their native fw?
[05:02] <Jowi> romany: Maybe you can mail the skype developers and request that they make a linux ppc binary download available...
[05:02] <arnducky> maybe the suid bit is not set for some s7ooP1t reason...   =P
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> romany: i don't use voip at all, so no i cant
[05:02] <kouwe> its finding something openssh-server
[05:03] <_jason> jvai, more secure, ubuntu doesn't even run any services to make you vulnerable
[05:03] <erUSUL> arnducky, btw apt-cache does not need sudo...
[05:03] <jvai> yea!
[05:03] <romany> Jowi: I sure will, and I guess I won't be the first one :)
[05:03] <jvai> thankz
[05:03] <_jason> jvai, (by default)
[05:03] <kana01> THX FOR ALL
[05:03] <kana01> its okay for me
[05:03] <arnducky> erUSUL, it sholdn't, but it didn't work for the guy until he sudoed it
[05:03] <Trinity> hello!!! i need help - my hp 3940 prints so slow in ubuntu, eventhough my setting are draft, what will i do to speed up the printin
[05:04] <skulrid> hi ppl
[05:04] <jeremywhiting> hi everyone, anyone know how to disable gnome's mouse cursor preferences and just go back to the default X ones?
[05:04] <arnducky> kouwe, try searching for 'ssh' with Synaptic
[05:05] <skulrid> I used automatix to install audio and video codecs, but my mp3 files still dont play...wath can I do??
[05:05] <jeremywhiting> the gnome ones always fade to white over time (usually takes a couple hours, but when done, the cursor is virtually invisible
[05:05] <Trinity> hello!!! i need help - my hp 3940 prints so slow in ubuntu, eventhough my settings are draft, what will i do to speed up the printing
[05:05] <erUSUL> !mp3
[05:05] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[05:05] <jeremywhiting> anyone?
[05:06] <skulrid> !avi
[05:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:06] <kouwe> arnducky, synaptic not present
[05:06] <arnducky> OFFS!
[05:06] <kouwe> :$
[05:06] <arnducky> how did you manage to install KDE on Ubuntu without Synaptic?
[05:06] <kouwe> Kubuntu...
[05:07] <arnducky> (ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop pull it as their default pacakge manager)
[05:07] <kouwe> :O
[05:07] <Jowi> kouwe: sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:07] <kouwe> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:07] <gimmulf_> Now im tired of this amd64 crap, will switch back to 32bit version...
[05:07] <Jowi> kouwe: that will give you openssh-server and openssh-client
[05:07] <arnducky> kouwe,  he needs openssh-server, (if it's not already installed)
[05:08] <kouwe> well normally its installed in /etc/openssh?
[05:08] <kouwe> or something..
[05:08] <arnducky> kouwe, $ apt-get install openssh-server
[05:08] <kouwe> same thing again :( - Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:08] <arnducky> If it says  "...cannot... already installed... "
[05:08] <arnducky> =P
[05:09] <kouwe> hihi
[05:09] <katador> holas
[05:09] <Jowi> kouwe: apparently you already have either synaptic or aptitude running already. close either of those apps and you will be able to install again (dpkg, aptitude, synaptic all use a lock to say that they own the process at the moment)
[05:09] <katador>  nuevo usuario de ubuntu saluda
[05:09] <arnducky> kouwe, check to make sure you don't have another instance of apt-get, dpkg, synaptic, aptitude (or whatever) running
[05:09] <katador> write spanish
[05:09] <z3r0_d> I don't have my machine handy to check... does the usual package sources have a package for opengl acceleration on 3dfx [voodoo]  cards?
[05:09] <trappist> !es
[05:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:10] <kouwe> samething again.... ps -aux then
[05:10] <arnducky> ps -C apt-get
[05:10] <rebort> hey
[05:10] <katador> write spanish
[05:10] <bolrod> omg
[05:10] <katador> ?
[05:10] <rebort> can anyone take a look at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[05:10] <kouwe> none arnducky
[05:10] <arnducky> x is just for proxesses without a controlling tty
[05:10] <katador> write spanish
[05:11] <bolrod> "spanish  s-p-a-n-i-s-h... spanish"
[05:11] <trappist> katador: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:11] <katador> ok
[05:11] <arnducky> katador, /JOIN #ubuntu-es
[05:11] <jeremywhiting> rebort: what about it?
[05:11] <arnducky> !spanish
[05:11] <ubotu> it has been said that spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[05:11] <bolrod> /join #2,000,spanish-ubuntu
[05:11] <_jason> rebort, lol that's strange, I don't know too much about this but what keyboard do you have?
[05:11] <bolrod> :x
[05:11] <rebort> jeremywhiting: can you help me solve it?
[05:11] <hoguejs> I have troubles exporting variables... I do 'export CVSROOT=/cvs' then I close terminal, open it again and when I do 'echo $CVSROOT', there's nothing. What's wrong?
[05:11] <kouwe> aptitude was running arnducky
[05:12] <arnducky> aptitude ?!?
[05:12] <rebort> _jason: Microsoft Natural, the ergonomic one split in the middle
[05:12] <arnducky> Whyever did you start it?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hoguejs,  thats how it works.
[05:12] <kouwe> openssh already isntalled ;)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hoguejs,  it exports it to the 'child' shells
[05:12] <arnducky> I knew it!
[05:12] <kouwe> :P
[05:12] <rebort> _jason: xfce and kde set up the keyboard fine
[05:12] <kouwe> now what....
[05:12] <hoguejs> oh... is there a way to make it permanent?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hoguejs,  set variables in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[05:12] <hoguejs> Ah, ok, thank you!
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> hoguejs,  and a read of a few bash 'beginner' tutorials would come in handy.
[05:13] <hoguejs> ok, i'll do that!
[05:13] <Jowi> hoguejs: the export is only valid for the current terminal/tty/session you have open. you can make it permantent by either set it in the way Dr_Willis said or in /etc/environment
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> hoguejs,  also the 'advance bash scripting guide' is  a MUST read also.
[05:14] <jeremywhiting> seems like your keyboard is borked
[05:14] <hoguejs> I'll google that, thanks!
[05:14] <jeremywhiting> or maybe not in all the way?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> dont ya want export CVSROOT="/cvs"    also ?  actually dont ya really mean '/home/username/cvs'
[05:14] <Milenniumgroup> hoguejs, http://tldp.org/LDP/BashBeginnersGuide/html/index.html. (not sure if that's the one you want) but it's great
[05:14] <jeremywhiting> or that the keyboard setting is wrong in X and needs to be the pc104 one
[05:14] <ryanpg> hi all... anyone familiar with the dapper development process around? I read on the dapper-changes ml "Accepted xorg-server 1:0.99.2+cvs.20051025-3 (source)   Daniel Stone" but when looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper I see the same version of X that's in breezy, why the descrepancy?
[05:15] <arnducky> kouwe, I'm almost stumped, but you can try the shotgun approach: $ apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <jeremywhiting> rebort:
[05:15] <joh> Anyone here got sound in flash?
[05:15] <Milenniumgroup> is it possible to get DD5.1 in linux at all? just a question
[05:15] <mazLee> joh:what's up with yourOS?
[05:16] <arnducky> You're sure you didn't find it in /etc/init.d/?
[05:16] <rebort> jeremywhiting: the keyboard works fine in everything else
[05:16] <bolrod> why does irssi use 106 MB!! of virtual memory... ?
[05:16] <_jason> rebort, you can probably remap them to the appropriate keys, but there is probably just a configuration setting that needs to be changed.  I think remapping is done with "setkeycodes"
[05:16] <daajeh> Hello all
[05:16] <kouwe> arnducky, could it be my freenx that aint working well...
[05:16] <jeremywhiting> rebort, so set it to pc105 in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if that's the one that works right for you
[05:16] <arnducky> I dunno whut freenx is even
[05:16] <jeremywhiting> it was probably detected wrong during install or something
[05:16] <kouwe> :)
[05:16] <joh> mazLee: I get no sound in breezy/firefox/flash
[05:16] <skulrid> is there any key shortcut to desktop??
[05:17] <jgrieves_away> can i create a .profile to set environment variables?
[05:17] <kouwe> back 2 other pc :)
[05:17] <arnducky> kouwe, echo $PATH
[05:17] <rebort> i'll try both of those ideas
[05:17] <daajeh> Why it shows when I'm reading a non-text English page in a site a squares in between the fots?
[05:17] <daajeh> fonts
[05:17] <mazLee> joh: Do PC sound in other apps?
[05:17] <rebort> jeremywhiting: doesn't gnome override xorg.conf kbd input settings?
[05:17] <arnducky>      $ dudo sshd
[05:17] <arnducky> err sudo too
[05:18] <joh> mazLee: yes.
[05:18] <rebort> my xkblayout and xkbvariant are both dvorak, is this right?
[05:18] <joh> mazLee: Can flash use alsa for sound?
[05:18] <daajeh> Does anyone know?
[05:18] <jeremywhiting> rebort: and that bit about dvorak not using the right keys is expected, some programs use the keycodes to detect input instead of the X or Gnome keyboard input events
[05:18] <jgrieves_away> a .profile in my home directory of course, say to set PATH?
[05:18] <mazLee> joh: of course
[05:18] <arnducky> kouwe, what does your path variable say?
[05:18] <jeremywhiting> so they use the normal layout
[05:18] <jeremywhiting> I don't know actually
[05:18] <rebort> jeremywhiting: gnome always worked before with dvorak
[05:18] <|Kouwe|> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[05:18] <Jowi> joh: see this
[05:18] <jeremywhiting> but if they match, you shouldn't have a problem
[05:18] <Jowi> !flash
[05:18] <ubotu> flash is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:19] <mazLee> joh: maybe re install the plugins
[05:19] <pinkisntwell> how can I edit panels? the taskbar is taken by apps and I can't click on it
[05:19] <arnducky> grrrr...
[05:19] <Kouwe_> :$
[05:19] <joh> mazLee: what's the FIREFOX_DSP (/etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox value for alsa? "alsa"?
[05:19] <rebort> jeremywhiting: be back in a second...
[05:19] <jgrieves> a .profile in my home directory of course, say to set PATH?
[05:19] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:19] <joh> mazLee: which plugins?
[05:19] <Jowi> joh: a fix for your problem is in the link (look for flash and sound fix)
[05:19] <jeremywhiting> yes, but mutt, or whatever prog you used that didn't understand dvorak was probably not using the gnome keyboard, just keycodes from bios or something
[05:20] <joh> Jowi: which link?
[05:20] <Jowi> !flash
[05:20] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:20] <Jowi> that one :)
[05:20] <joh> Jowi: thank you
[05:20] <arnducky> There is a sudoers argument that allows you to let sudoers set paths, butt he defualt *should* work -- it should default to root environment when sudo is run without a -u argument
[05:20] <Myk3> hey all
[05:20] <Kouwe_> ahaa
[05:20] <Jowi> hy Myk3
[05:20] <nox-Hand> Is it possible to, in Ubuntu, Kubuntu or whatever, install a package that allows one to read ones Windows partition? Would make it easier to move my docs to my Ubuntu
[05:20] <Jowi> hy = hi
[05:21] <byt0r> hey ubuntu people
[05:21] <arnducky> Kouwe_, WTF kinda krazy Ubuntu system have you got there, anyhow?!  Hahaha!
[05:21] <Myk3> anyone chating?
[05:21] <_jason> nox-Hand, you mount ntfs partitions and read them
[05:21] <Jowi> !tell nox-Hand about windowsdrives
[05:21] <mazLee> joh: do you install the plugins by yourself or
[05:21] <mcphail> is anyone using Skype on 64 bit breezy?
[05:22] <arnducky> mcphail, I hav abuddy running it on an amd64 laptop with breezy
[05:22] <Xamusk> has anyone here implemented successfully an ltsp environment with ubuntu?
[05:22] <nox-Hand> I shall have a look
[05:22] <nox-Hand> be back when tried
[05:22] <mcphail> arnducky: do you get errors like this "/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[05:22] <arnducky> mcphail, he may have had to install it with 'linux32' though
[05:22] <joh> mazLee: I don't think so...
[05:22] <arnducky> mcphail, not my laptop -- read what I said
[05:23] <byt0r> i know nothing much about usplash, so...  if i kill usplash (uninstall) am i going to screw my system at all?  i just want a text based boot, not graphical.  do i need to reconfigure anything after uninstalling usplash?
[05:23] <mazLee> joh: www.macromedia.com
[05:23] <mcphail> arnducky: yes - i'm using this already. It happens when i close some skype-out calls and stops me from connecting to anyone else
[05:23] <arnducky> kouwe, 'ahaa'?!?
[05:23] <arnducky> skype is buggy
[05:23] <freemanen> how do see that kernel version you use?
[05:23] <arnducky> And since they don't probvide source...
[05:24] <joh> mazLee: well, it's in the archives.
[05:24] <mcphail> it feels more like and esd problem...
[05:24] <byt0r> freemanen - uname -a
[05:24] <arnducky> (don't worry though -- it's even buggier in WinDOH!s)
[05:24] <Jowi> mcphail: i heard there is a newer version of skype that correct that problem. look in the forums (ubuntu or skype forums)
[05:24] <heanol> what's the kernel version on 5.10?
[05:24] <mcphail> Jowi: i just downloaded it today - i assume there's no cvs version???
[05:24] <Amaranth> 2,6,12
[05:24] <arnducky> mcphail, have you tried using a sound daemon or SDL mod instead of direct drivers?
[05:24] <mazLee> joh: do you try to re setup the archive
[05:25] <arnducky> crimsun is definitely the person to ask, BTW
[05:25] <rebort> no go on that jeremywhiting
[05:25] <mcphail> arnducky: how would i go about that?
[05:25] <Xamusk> in the ltsp boot, everything works fine, except that somehow the xorg.conf file is overwritten, and the settings (specially mouse ones) aren't loaded right
[05:25] <joh> mahangu: why re-setup the archive?
[05:25] <arnducky> mcphail, you could try aRTs
[05:25] <rebort> why does my ketween o and [ start rhythmox laying in gnome
[05:26] <mcphail> arnducky: cheers. Time to roll up my sleeves and experiment
[05:26] <Jowi> mcphail: yeah i know. there is something wrong with that .deb. I don't remember where i found it. I think if you search for the current version you have in either skype or ubuntu forums you should be able to find it.
[05:26] <luis_> twilight, a BIG thank you, Kudos, man
[05:26] <arnducky> either aRTs for ALSA or aRTs for OSS or esound
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> rebort,  you mean your "P" key starts rythm box playing?
[05:26] <rebort> Dr_Willis: yes
[05:26] <twilight> luis_, ; )
[05:27] <rebort> no modiers on that
[05:27] <nox-Hand> How do I get full root access? I need root, not sudo
[05:27] <rebort> as in not with alt, crtl, win
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  you will now be asked WHY you need it.
[05:27] <luis_> twilight, jezz man i digged the forums
[05:27] <jesseman_> nox-Hand: sudo passwd root
[05:27] <Jowi> !tell nox-Hand about root
[05:27] <jesseman_> nox-Hand: set the root password, then use su
[05:27] <jesseman_> nox-Hand: voila, root
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> and then be told how to do it without etting root password. :P
[05:28] <mahangu> joh, WHAT?
[05:28] <nox-Hand> because my Windows partitions are already mounted, but wrongly. And need to be root to unmount them
[05:28] <freemanen> will it comes any news with dapper this weekend?
[05:28] <Jowi> nox-Hand: you do not need root for that
[05:28] <joh> mahangu: hm?
[05:28] <Jowi> nox-Hand: sudo umount /media/windows (or which path you used)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> if they are on the desktop - the user should be able to right click and unmount them also.
[05:29] <nox-Hand> Jowi: This is what it tells me when I right-click on the drive and select unmount volume: umount: only root can unmount /dev/hda1 from /media/hda1
[05:29] <vittommy> hi all
[05:29] <rebort> i havent een ale to use gnome or 3 months ecause o this
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> be sure all programs/processes accessing the mounted drives are closed out also.
[05:30] <mahangu> joh, i didnt say anything?
[05:30] <joh> < mahangu> joh, WHAT?
[05:30] <Jowi> nox-Hand: yeah, do it from a terminal with the command i just gave you. that will solve it
 mahangu: why re-setup the archive?
[05:30] <mahangu> wtf?
[05:30] <nox-Hand> Jowi: I will try
[05:30] <vittommy> i've an azalya on mobo soundcard that stop my hotplug! i block it from the bios and all work correctly...
[05:30] <joh> mahangu: oh, sorry, wasn't to you :P
[05:30] <vittommy> no ideas?
[05:30] <EvilPaddy> Is there a way I can a deb of the latest PHP 5.1.x - I dont want to compile from source
[05:31] <fredforfaen> !hardware
[05:31] <ubotu> well, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:31] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Right! They are gone. I shall not try to mount them again with the link 'ubotu' bot gave me
[05:32] <nickrud> rebort, I'd guess that you've mapped P to rhythmbox in metacity; you can check by starting apps->system->config editor, and going to /apps/metacity/global_keybindings and looking a the run_commands
[05:32] <Jowi> vittommy: you can try to add pci=noacpi in /boot/grub/menu.list for the kernel you try to boot. that *might* be the cause.
[05:32] <zcook> Hi all.  I've got a quick sendmail question
[05:33] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Got these errors:
[05:33] <cmg_> I'm trying to send mail with mailx and its not working.. what do I need to be running?  sendmail?
[05:33] <rebort> nickrud: no, i didnt :) i checked that long ago when the rolem started
[05:33] <nox-Hand> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[05:33] <nox-Hand> Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[05:33] <rebort> nickrud: that key is seen as XF86AudioPlay
[05:33] <nox-Hand> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_6
[05:33] <zcook> I guess it doesn't really have to be sendmail related.  It's just that local apps like to send mail to localhost.  How can I configure sendmail or anything else that gets local e-mail from apps to just send it off to an external server?
[05:33] <nox-Hand> Ignoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[05:33] <nox-Hand> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[05:33] <absenth> is anyone able to point me in the direction of a wireless how-to for Breezy?
[05:33] <zcook> Things like apache and php all have to send mail to a static IP.  So I'd like something else which can just forward mail to a domain to intercept that mail, and send it along.
[05:33] <nox-Hand> Jowi: /ect/fstab?
[05:34] <nickrud> rebort, I mentioned it because I'd done something similar once :)
[05:34] <absenth> I'm looking for a soup to nuts (this is how it all works) type site.
[05:34] <zcook> Anybody have any ideas?
[05:34] <cmg_> zcook.. do you know what I need to run to get mailx working?  does that use sendmail?
[05:34] <EvilPaddy> Is there a way I can a deb of the latest PHP 5.1.x - I dont want to compile from source
[05:34] <Jowi> nox-Hand: etc/fstab contain all drives that are mounted at boot, or at a later time. give me the line with the drive you want to from "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:34] <zcook> I've got no idea, sorry :(
[05:34] <rebort> nickrud: thanks r trying
[05:34] <vincentmx> hi
[05:35] <vincentmx> how do you remove usplash?
[05:35] <cmg_> zcook.. what do i need to run to be able to send mail?
[05:35] <nox-Hand> Jowi: sudo fdisk -l? I am using some script found on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:35] <nickrud> rebort, you could always blow away .gconf & .gconfd, and start over :0
[05:35] <nox-Hand> Jowi: The drives I wish to mount are called hda1 & hdb1 right now
[05:35] <zcook> apt-get install sendmail
[05:36] <Jowi> nox-Hand: we'll try to solve it manually. "sudo fdisk -l" and give me the info of the two drives
[05:36] <rebort> nickrud: i could... i think i will
[05:36] <nickrud> rebort, assuming it's truly a gnome problem, of course
[05:37] <nox-Hand> /dev/hdb1               1        3602    28933033+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:37] <nox-Hand>  *** /dev/hdb2            3603        4865    10145047+   5  Extended
[05:37] <nox-Hand> /dev/hdb1               1        3602    28933033+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:37] <nox-Hand> /dev/hdb2            3603        4865    10145047+   5  Extended
[05:37] <nox-Hand> there, those two are the ones
[05:37] <absenth> does anyone know of a good "wireless on breezy" how-to?
[05:37] <rebort> nickrud: i elieve it in a gnome oem
[05:38] <Jowi> nox-Hand: add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1      /media/windows  ntfs    defaults,user,noauto,umask=000  0       0
[05:38] <Jowi> nox-Hand: you will not be able to mount hdb2 since it is an extended partition and does not contain a filesystem by itself.
[05:38] <EvilGuru> i have just looked at system monitor
[05:39] <EvilGuru> and I seem to have 10 copies of apache 2 running
[05:39] <rob_p> zcook:  Postfix should do what you want.
[05:39] <EvilGuru> each taking up 20 odd mb
[05:39] <zcook> postfix?
[05:39] <EvilPaddy> Is there a way I can a deb of the latest PHP 5.1.x - I dont want to compile from source
[05:39] <EvilGuru> i compiled it
[05:39] <EvilGuru> not all that hard
[05:39] <zcook> I don't really want to run an e-mail server on this machine.  I just want a global 'forward all e-mail to this domain'
[05:39] <stratovarius> how to format a decive in fat32?
[05:39] <nox-Hand> Jowi: That is okay, I will just go into Windows and move all relevant files to correct drive.. Should I not delete this line from /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0?
[05:39] <stratovarius> *device
[05:39] <zcook> Would that be a pretty quick setup with postfix?
[05:40] <cristian23__> Hello, I need to get my pc in "soft off"  mode instead of poweroff, so I can use wake on lan. /sys/power/state only supports standby, disk and mem, (S1, S3 and S4) but not S5 (soft off). Any ideas?
[05:40] <Jowi> nox-Hand: need to leave in about 10 minutes. yeah, you can replace that line with the one i gave you or remove it totally if you wish
[05:40] <rebort> no luck with that...
[05:40] <Kouwe_> arnducky: sorry i had to go. but thnx man for helping me!
[05:40] <rob_p> zcook:  I wonder if procmail could do that for you.  I know Postfix is capable and fairly easy to setup to do that.
[05:40] <byt0r> is there an easy way to rename mounted usb drives?  mine apparently don't have volume labels so they show up on my desktop as "37.3 GB Volume" , etc.
[05:40] <doublea> How can I change the default character-set I'm using.
[05:41] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Right, shall I just save and then?
[05:41] <Kouwe_> but now, how do i use apt-get for installing -> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:41] <zcook> rob_p, can you give a bit of instruction?  A quick how-to?
[05:41] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Will this make me able to write on the drive also?
[05:42] <firecracker2k3> Hi guys, I have got everything I need working now, but i cant get 3d acceleration working, I have installed the drivers but does not work, any ideas?
[05:42] <cmg_> does anyone know how to send email from the command line?  On solaris I use mailx, but its not working on my Ubuntu box
[05:42] <Jowi> nox-Hand: I don't actually know, since i have never used a ntfs drive before. "sudo mount -a" will make it up to date.
[05:42] <rob_p> zcook:  I've got  15 minutes so, yeah.
[05:42] <Kouwe_> someone plz, how do i use apt-get for installing -> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:42] <firecracker2k3> oh the drivers are the xorg fglx ones
[05:42] <sladen> vincentmx: remove 'splash' from the boot parameters
[05:42] <zcook> Awesome, thank you rob_p
[05:43] <nox-Hand> Jowi: I get this error when attempting to open HDD:You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1".
[05:43] <ktogias> I apt-get installed glabels, it freezes when I try to insert an image into a project... Has anyone face such a bug in glabels package? (breezy)
[05:43] <cmg_> does anyone know how to send email from the command line?  im trying mailx, but the mail doesn't get sent
[05:44] <BockBilbo> cmg_, telnet localhost 25
[05:44] <BockBilbo> ?
[05:44] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Whoops, that was the old drive. Forget about that--
[05:44] <rob_p> zcook:  When you install Postfix, I think it gives you a "mail" command which is handy for sending mail from the command line too!
[05:44] <Jowi> nox-Hand: did you add the "umask=000" to the fstab then?
[05:44] <skulrid> I need help instaling programs...
[05:44] <cmg_> BockBilbo, what would that do?
[05:44] <firecracker2k3> anyone able to help
[05:44] <BockBilbo> cmg_, obiously you enter to your postfix instalation smtp server
[05:45] <skulrid> i just have here quake 2, I read the readme file but I dont have a clue of waht to do. can anyone help me plz
[05:45] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Yes. The error was for the second HDD, my mistake. But cannot find the one we just tried to mount? Where can I then find the drive?
[05:45] <EvilPaddy> Is there a way I can a deb of the latest PHP 5.1.x - I dont want to compile from source
[05:45] <BockBilbo> if you know the basics of the smtp protocol, youll be able to send an email
[05:45] <yuval> hi! I'm getting a ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gdi32.Cy68pa.o) is not supported when trying to build the source deb on ubuntu brezzy amd64, did anyone managed to get passed this  ?
[05:45] <cmg_> BockBilbo, i removed postfix and installed sendmail to see if that would work.. im totally clueless about MTA's
[05:45] <BockBilbo> doesnt matter
[05:46] <cmg_> BockBilbo, all I want to do is to be able to send email from a script.. like with mailx
[05:46] <BockBilbo> both are smt servers
[05:46] <Jowi> nox-Hand: sudo fdisk -l will give you all the disks you have :) I need to go now, good luck
[05:46] <BockBilbo> aha
[05:46] <nox-Hand> Jowi: Cheers! THanks for all the help!
[05:46] <nox-Hand> Jowi: :-D
[05:46] <Jowi> nox-Hand: no probs, c u
[05:47] <cmg_> BockBilbo, any help on how to do that?
[05:47] <BockBilbo> well, i havent done such an script
[05:47] <BockBilbo> i once did a java mail program which managed with the smtp protocol
[05:48] <cmg_> i just want a command line mail program.. like mailx.. to work
[05:48] <BockBilbo> cant help you with that
[05:48] <BockBilbo> i use thunderbird, lol
[05:48] <cmg_> k thanks
[05:48] <BockBilbo> and if i ever want to send an email from command line i use telnet
[05:48] <Oceansblue> What is the best way to convert .wav to .mp3
[05:48] <BockBilbo> good luck
[05:48] <BockBilbo> Oceansblue, i use sound converter for that
[05:48] <opnsrc> If I use SPM and I hit Reload and then I hit mark all upgrades and then I hit apply will it automatically update everything that needs to be updated?
[05:48] <eruin> does anyone know whether hotplug is no longer needed in kernel 2.6.15?
[05:49] <Oceansblue> What is the name of the program to install
[05:49] <opnsrc> Or that has an upgrade?
[05:49] <BockBilbo> "Sound Converter" i believe
[05:49] <opnsrc> (or basically a newer version)
[05:49] <nox-Hand> Hey! Can anybody else help me mount a Windows disk to Ubuntu? With read/write rights
[05:49] <rob_p> zcook:  Ya there?  I'm assuming you've already installed Postfix by now.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  is this a ntfs partition?
[05:50] <cmg_> rob_p,   do you know how to send email from the command line.. my mailx won't send
[05:50] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Yes
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  you DONT want to mount them Read/Write.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  unless you want to risk total data loss.
[05:50] <zcook> Still here.  Getting postfix.
[05:51] <Oceansblue> I see it
[05:51] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Okay, how do I mount it readable?
[05:51] <rob_p> zcook:  If I recall, the default Ubuntu install is configured to listen on local loopback only.  This is what you want unless it will collect mail from other hosts on your LAN.
[05:51] <zcook> rob_p Nope.  Local only.
[05:51] <ufk> hiya, how can i do that i'll see all of the output from the init scripts? cause it seems that when my system boots i need to press Return a cupple of times for stuff to keep on running
[05:51] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: At the moment I can only see the drive but the contents is 'unreadable' according to properties
[05:51] <rob_p> cmg_:  If you have Postfix, use the, "mail" command.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:52] <cmg_> rob_p, does that work with sendmail as well?
[05:52] <rob_p> zcook:  Good!  Now, open your main.cf file and add, "relayhost = some.external.mail.server".
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  odds are they auto-mounted with the wrong permissions. You need to unmount them and correct the fstab entry
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  type "!ntfs" and read the bots message
[05:52] <rob_p> cmg_:  I don't use sendmail but I imagine it would.
[05:53] <cmg_> rob_p, ok thanks
[05:53] <nox-Hand> !ntfs
[05:53] <trappist> same concept with sendmail.  different syntax.
[05:53] <skulrid> ppl waht can I do to open DEB fileS?
[05:53] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: I shall try
[05:54] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Will write back results. Cheers!
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> "Dont Try, Do" :)
[05:54] <Alex> nox-Hand:  "Do, or do not. There is no try."
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> skulrid,  you mean 'open' or install?
[05:54] <Alex> That's an alias for some strange reason
[05:54] <skulrid> instal
[05:54] <jgrieves> Alex you ask the impossible
[05:54] <nox-Hand> Alex: Right.. My bad ;-)
[05:55] <skulrid> Dr_Willis u see, i got here some win32 codecs from the ubunt site, but cant open/instal it (.deb)
[05:55] <Alex> jgrieves: Just get yer frickin' X-Wing out of my swamp!
[05:55] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Should I then delete the disk entry in /etc/fstab? Before using this script?
[05:55] <jgrieves> Alex but I wanna go to tache station to pick up some power converters!  It just isn't fair
[05:56] <rob_p> zcook:  I have to run but the configuration file for Postfix is located in /etc/postfix.  It's main.cf.  There are many how-to's on the 'Net regarding the numerous configurations that can be achieved using Postfix.  Anyway, I think you'll be about there if you open that config file and add the relayhost parameter.  Good luck... I'm off!
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  i say yes.
[05:56] <zcook> Thank you so much rob_p
[05:56] <rob_p> zcook:  np :-)
[05:56] <rob_p> later
[05:56] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Okay! Will try
[05:56] <nox-Hand> Alex: Sorry, DO
[05:57] <Alex> jgrieves: Now be quiet and clean up, I can't reach those shelves, I'm 2ft tall! :p
[05:57] <cmg_> anyone know what else I need to do to get mail working.. I have postfix installed, but mail i send doesnt go anywhere
[05:57] <skulrid> Dr_Willis help?
[05:58] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Got some errors: error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[05:58] <nox-Hand> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/0 GB Disk (hda1)': File exists
[05:58] <nox-Hand> Added /dev/hda1 as '/media/0 GB Disk (hda1)'
[05:58] <nox-Hand> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_6
[05:58] <nox-Hand> Added /dev/hdb1 as '/media/0 GB Disk (hdb1)'
[05:58] <nox-Hand> NTFS drives will be mounted read-only!
[05:58] <nox-Hand> All windows and mac partitions will now be mounted every time you boot
[05:58] <nox-Hand> You do not need to reboot, the partitions are mounted now too
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> skulrid,  :) dident bother to check the wiki eh?  ya use 'dpkg -i whatever' to install thiungs
[05:58] <airox> cmg_: checkout the log files.
[05:58] <psi> how might i force my external tft monitor to run in 60 Hz, instead of 75 Hz?
[05:58] <Ng> that winmac fstab script needs to be made a lot less stupid about names ;/
[05:59] <airox> there should be some information to get the problem into the next level
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Ng,  i was thinking that also.
[05:59] <theD3viL> psi, why do you want that? :|
[05:59] <cmg_> airox, which log?
[05:59] <airox> cmg_: mail.* in /var/log/ afaik
[05:59] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Do not think that matters much. The drive is there. Just gotta delete some double entry's. Got three of the same drive..? ;-)
[06:00] <skulrid> lol
[06:00] <Ng> theD3viL: tft monitors don't really have a refresh, so its standard to run them at 60hz
[06:00] <psi> theD3viL, it produces better display quality
[06:00] <skulrid> Dr_Willis lol ill try
[06:00] <pinkisntwell> why is the desktop on ubuntu so big? can i make it smaller? icons and everything?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> pinkisntwell,  do you mean to say your desktop "resolution" is low?
[06:00] <airox> pinkisntwell: change your resolution. it's somewhere in the menu preferences or much alike
[06:00] <pinkisntwell> i can't, it won't go higher
[06:01] <Ng> pinkisntwell: you may need to install a graphics card driver - do you know what kind you have?
[06:01] <psi> oh, and i'm running on an ibook. that's why i said "external".
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> now is the time the "Fix your X configuration" stream to start up. :P
[06:01] <deuce`> I'd like to be able to connect to my Ubuntu machine like I can do with Remote Desktop on Windows XP.  Is VNC what I need to try to set up?
[06:01] <pinkisntwell> i do have a driver working and configured
[06:01] <gimmulf> Is there anything to think of before i install Ubuntu Breezy 32bit on amd64 machine?
[06:01] <pinkisntwell> i can't go over 1024x768 in ubuntu, though i can in windows
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> deuce`,  i find 'tightvnc' works very well.
[06:01] <Ng> deuce`: System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[06:01] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: OH SWEET! The script even added my extended partition. Better than I could hope for! :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[06:01] <Ng> deuce`: that will let you configure the built-in vnc server
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,  i use 32bit on all my amd64 machines.
[06:01] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: THANKS A LOT :-)
[06:02] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell,you sure you have your 3d driver installed ?
[06:02] <gimmulf> Dr_Willis:  no problems?
[06:02] <Ng> pinkisntwell: in that case you probably need to tell X about your monitor's refresh rates, it may be defaultiing to low, safe values and therefore denying the higher modes
[06:02] <pinkisntwell> yes
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,  Nope.
[06:02] <nox-Hand> Right, I shall now go away BYEEE!
[06:02] <gimmulf> Dr_Willis:  ok thanks
[06:02] <pinkisntwell> Ng: refresh has nothing to do with size
[06:02] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, then you prob. need to edit xorg.conf to add in higher resolutins
[06:03] <Ng> pinkisntwell: you might think that :)
[06:03] <Ng> pinkisntwell: I know better :)
[06:03] <Ng> X will test all the possible modes it thinks it can use and reject those that don't fit into what it thinks your hardware is capable of, which includes monitor refresh rates
[06:04] <pinkisntwell> Ng: ok, so how do I do that?
[06:04] <Ng> look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the modes it tried and why it rejected them
[06:04] <skulrid> Dr_Willis i think it instaled, but the mp3 wont play _
[06:05] <pulver> hey is there an easy way to configure firewall in ubuntu?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> skulrid,  type !mp3 and see aht the bot says
[06:05] <skulrid> yah I know non free stuf
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> pulver,  "Firestarter" is a neat tool.. proberly a dozen others.
[06:05] <linucero> hola
[06:06] <pulver> Dr_Willis: k thanks
[06:06] <johnny> dose any one know how to start up firestarter on startup?
[06:06] <linucero> please i need help
[06:06] <skulrid> in fact i meant "mpg" files, but anyway the site says: The Codecs" support playing MPEG-1, -2 & -4, DivX, Quicktime, Real Media 8 & 9, Windows Media Video 9 and many other formats.,
[06:06] <linucero> how create direct acess to trash???
[06:06] <skulrid> but my videos wont play
[06:06] <snorks> Why the !#% won't firefox show some pages, but just closes down?
[06:07] <johnny> whats a good firewall that is fairly simply to use
[06:07] <linucero> in what directory is the trash? bin home?
[06:07] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, cif your monitor can handle higher than 1024 and its showing as a higher than that resolution IN xorg.conf,, then you will be able to switch TO it
[06:07] <_jason> johnny, firestarter
[06:08] <johnny> i downloaded firestarter but its all wierd on my box i installed it twice and it dont work well the konsole dose but the gui verstion cant be found
[06:08] <deuce`> Ng: For the VNC server, what port does it listen on?  I need to configure my router to let connections through to that port.
[06:08] <pinkisntwell> xorg.conf has higher resolutions but "screen resolution" proggie won't let me use them
[06:09] <Ng> deuce`: 5900 I believe
[06:09] <neighborlee> johnny, it prob. just hASn't updated itself yet in the  menus..run from console for now or logout/in to see it in the menus...;-)
[06:09] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, what card is this
[06:09] <pinkisntwell> it's been like this since i installed ubuntu
[06:10] <pinkisntwell> geforce fx 5200
[06:10] <pinkisntwell> i know that higher ressolutions work in windows
[06:10] <Ng> pinkisntwell: did the x log show anything useful?
[06:10] <johnny> but i cant see it atall in system tools
[06:10] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, ok  well then if all is fine there..then make double sure your refresh rates are ok for your monitor
[06:10] <RustyJames> is there a Program in ubuntu that configures the things in the xorg.conf? like SaX in SuSE?
[06:10] <pinkisntwell> (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
[06:10] <Ng> see
[06:11] <Ng> I told you it would be monitor refresh rates :)
[06:11] <snorks>  op
[06:11] <snorks> ] \
[06:11] <snorks> FDSFSSF
[06:11] <Ng> you need to put a couple of lines in the Monitor section of the xorg.conf that list the vertical and horizontal refresh ranges of your monitor
[06:11] <johnny> any idear on how to get it working?
[06:11] <opnsrc> Wow, Abiword is very nice on Ubuntu
[06:12] <opnsrc> Well in general
[06:12] <snorks> Does anyone else have the problem with Firefox killing itself?
[06:12] <opnsrc> It's nice
[06:12] <neighborlee> Ng, im sure its alread there..they are just out of range is all
[06:12] <Ng> neighborlee: possibly, in which case he needs to put the correct values in
[06:12] <neighborlee> exacctly what I told him ;-)
[06:12] <Ng> X tends to default to quite conservative values for such things
[06:13] <Ng> neighborlee: I too also suggested this some time earlier
[06:13] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, do you know how to go about doing that   ?
[06:13] <neighborlee> Ng, ah ic
[06:13] <pinkisntwell> no
[06:13] <snorks> Does anyone else have the problem with Firefox killing itself? Please go to tv2.no and click the red button in the top somewhere called "Program". If your Firefox doesn't kill itself, please tell me which version you use.
[06:13] <trappist> pinkisntwell: he's still back at the hotel
[06:14] <pinkisntwell> and he sent us along as a surrogate band
[06:14] <joh> Goddamn, I've tried everything and cannot get the sound in flash to work :(
[06:14] <Drgb> hi everyone
[06:14] <johnny> mt firestarter comes up with this error when i try to start it"Error spawning shell process: Failed to execute child process "firestarter.sh" (No such file or directory)
[06:14] <afabian> snorks, it's crashing.  I have core files to prove it.
[06:14] <johnny> Failed to start the firewall
[06:14] <Drgb> i need to run m4a files on my ubuntu os
[06:14] <Drgb> can you help me?
[06:14] <afabian> 64 megabyte core files, even.
[06:14] <johnny> any idears on how to fix this
[06:14] <snorks> afabian: You can't show that page either?
[06:14] <Ng> snorks: seems to work on in 1.5
[06:14] <eternalist> Drgb, what's an m4a file?
[06:15] <pussfeller> its apples thing
[06:15] <afabian> snorks, I didn't look.  I know Firefox 1.07 has a crashing problem on Breezy.  It happens to me at least once a day, and others mention it.
[06:15] <Ng> s/on/ok/
[06:15] <Drgb> eternalist, it's an audio format created by apple
[06:15] <pussfeller> Drgb: you need to read restricted formats on the wiki
[06:15] <snorks> Ok
[06:15] <snorks> afabian: Thanks for sharing
[06:15] <Ng> Drgb: chances are mplayer will play it if you can't make anything else do it
[06:15] <eternalist> !tell eternalist about restricted formats
[06:15] <Drgb> Ng, are you sure mplayer does?
[06:16] <alex1> hello, can someone give me a good package link for updates ?
[06:16] <snorks> afabian: I get all mad and want to cuss in a channel that doesn't approve it and life's just hard
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> is there a reliable way to write to windows xp or to move data from ext3 to ntfs?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> alex1,  care to rephrase that.
[06:16] <pussfeller> amarok plays em if you have gstreamer faac or whatever its called
[06:16] <_jason> snorks, afabian: yeah ff1.07 likes to segfault a lot (it was usually plugin related for me).  If you don't like the other browsers like epiphany or galeon then you could try firefox1.5.  It hasn't crashed once on me.  Unfortunately it's not packaged and not officially supported yet.
[06:16] <johnny> dose anyone here  no how i can fix my firestarter?
[06:16] <skulrid> !sudo
[06:16] <ubotu> [sudo]  the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> lsuactiafner,  there i the IFS thing for XP that lets it read/write to Ext2/3 partitions.
[06:16] <Ng> Drgb: if it has faad support, yes
[06:16] <skulrid> !su
[06:17] <ubotu> skulrid: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:17] <pinkisntwell> can't I just make gnome draw everything smaller?
[06:17] <Ng> Drgb: mplayer -ac help | grep faa
[06:17] <rraajj> snorks: The TV guide page? It seems to load fine for me.
[06:17] <alex1> i mean to add it in the repository
[06:17] <pussfeller> lsuactiafner: or try e2fs explorer
[06:17] <_jason> johnm, does running "firestarter" in a terminal do anything?
[06:17] <pussfeller> or what ever its called
[06:17] <rraajj> snorks: I'm using 1.0.7 from mozilla.org.
[06:17] <skulrid> !debian
[06:17] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[06:17] <lsuactiafner> and how do i write to ntfs?
[06:17] <lsuactiafner> from linux?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> snorks,   tv2.no pogram button crashes my firefox even. version 1.5 under windows XP.
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> lsuactiafner,  you do NOT want to write to a ntfs from within Linux.
[06:17] <pussfeller> that is not working yet, except experimenatlly and i guess not consistently
[06:18] <lsuactiafner> what version of windows runs on fat32 then?
[06:18] <pussfeller> win2k will
[06:18] <lsuactiafner> win2k it is
[06:18] <pussfeller> and 98/me
[06:18] <alex1> can someone give me plz a good package source (for repository) ?
[06:18] <snorks> Dr_Willis: Beats me. It's not supposed to be like that, since that page gets alot of hits, they'd fix it in a jiffy.
[06:18] <pussfeller> wont xp run on fat?
[06:18] <snorks> Dr_Willis: So it's firefox
[06:18] <misfit_toy> pusling, yes xp will run on fat
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> lsuactiafner,   or use http://www.fs-driver.org/   to let xp read/write   ext2/3 partitions
[06:18] <pussfeller> i have heard alot of issues with the new firefox
[06:19] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> snorks,  possibially :P
[06:19] <afabian> lsuactiafner, I believe they all will.  It takes some convincing to get Windows XP to do it; the installer doesn't offer to do it, but it will install on FAT32 and run flawlessly.  WinXP artificially limits the partitions to 32 GB, but will use them up to any legal size.  (I believe FAT32 can technically do 128 GB.)
[06:19] <Kouwe_> how do i use apt-get for installing -> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[06:19] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, GOTO: 'run as different user' and type in 'gedit' with root password and find the lines that show the horizontal and vertgical sync range and make sure they match those specs for your monitor...
[06:19] <ufk> ok i have a hugh problem in my ubuntu system, when i start X even if i just start gdm and don't even put the username and password, after 10 to 15 seconds my system just freeze and i have to reboot the computer. any ideas?!
[06:19] <rraajj> snorks: Is it supposed to show me a TV guide?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  what is your videocard/cpu?
[06:20] <pinkisntwell> in in xorg.conf
[06:20] <pinkisntwell> ?
[06:20] <ufk> AMD moblue sempron, and sec the computer is rebooting i don't remember the gfx card
[06:20] <pussfeller> i have my 250 gig hg formatted with fat and its all one partition
[06:20] <afabian> I run Windows XP on FAT32 since Linux is my primary platform.  Full, worry-free RW on my Windows partition far outweighs the advantages of NTFS.
[06:20] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, yes
[06:20] <ufk> AMD Mobile sempron
[06:21] <pinkisntwell> it doesnt have any refresh rates
[06:21] <alex1> can someone give me plz a good link to add it in the repository (i mean packages)
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  let me guess ati mobiltiey x200 or similer. :P
[06:21] <hoguejs> I want to restart my inetd service but there's no 'inetd' file in /etc/inet.d/. Is there anything I must install first?
[06:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell alex1 about easysource
[06:21] <lsuactiafner> afabian : is it stable?
[06:21] <xored> how to open chm files ?
[06:21] <alex1> 10x
[06:22] <Kouwe_> how do i use apt-get for installing -> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 - someone?
[06:22] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, they should be there somewhere ...i've never heard of a install without them ;(
[06:22] <ufk> HP Pavilion, yeah and it's some kind of an ati radeon card.
[06:22] <pussfeller> chm files are windows help files :)
[06:22] <pinkisntwell> nope, can't see them
[06:22] <pinkisntwell> what should i look for?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  theres a thread about them in the forums. Theres a few 'issues', for a start. check the x config, and either use the 'no hwacell' option , or set the 'radeon' driver to be 'vesa' (i think)
[06:22] <afabian> lsuactiafner, yeah; it's "supported" even, since Windows XP offers to upgrade over Win2k without converting.  You haven't done something "totally bizarre" in some ways if you have to hit MSFT support.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  i got a COmpaq V2311 and had to do some tweaking..
[06:22] <Ng> neighborlee: most default installs don't have them
[06:22] <ufk> k thanks i'll try that
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  the actual ati drivers Did work however.. with 3d support.
[06:22] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, you'd see a couple lines..one hori. and another  vert. with numbers like: 31-107 as such
[06:22] <neighborlee> Ng, beyond weird..mine always have
[06:23] <snorks> rraajj: yes
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  also check your clock.. if its running at x2 normal speed theres a grub/boot option needed to fix that.
[06:23] <Ng> neighborlee: well, they don't have to, indeed it's better if you don't and it can use EDID or DDC to read them
[06:23] <rraajj> snorks: Well, it displays fine. Firefox didn't crash.
[06:23] <pinkisntwell> no such lines in my xorg.conf
[06:23] <pussfeller> afiak the only thing ntfs adds is extending permissions on your files
[06:23] <ufk> Dr_Willis: aahm.. how do i check that?
[06:23] <snorks> rraajj: some have the problem, some not. opening it in a new window worked for me
[06:23] <neighborlee> Ng, is this something new ?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  its like 'nolsapci' or somthing similer. for the clock issue, or somthing.
[06:23] <snorks> rraajj: as in rightclick and open in new window
[06:23] <afabian> lsuactiafner, you just lose every advantage of NTFS.  They're significant.  Speed, security, better fault-tolerance... so, it works as well as any FAT32 system ever did. ;)
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  get X working first. :P the see if the clock flys by.
[06:24] <rraajj> snorks: Oh, I see. Well, I clicked it directly, and it loaded fine.
[06:24] <Ng> pinkisntwell: find the Monitor section of your xorg.conf and add a line in with: HorizSync X-Y     and another with: VertRefresh X-Y    (where X and Y are the appropriate values in each case)
[06:24] <Ng> neighborlee: nope
[06:24] <oblib> Any MythTV users with Breezy here?
[06:24] <pinkisntwell> oh well
[06:24] <neighborlee> Ng, odd i've never heard anything about such a thing ;-)
[06:24] <pinkisntwell> nevermind
[06:24] <rraajj> snorks: I guess you should try out the 1.0.7 direct from Mozilla.
[06:24] <deuce`> Ng: So far so good with VNC.  Now, is this connection encrypted at all, or do I need to run it through some sort of tunnel to do that?
[06:24] <Ng> deuce`: it is not encrypted. If you want it to be you could not forward port 5900 and instead use an ssh tunnel to access it
[06:25] <pinkisntwell> can you help me with sound instead? sound doesn't work with quake3 xmame or zsnes, thought it works with media players
[06:25] <afabian> deuce`, VNC encrypts only the password.  The rest is unencrypted.  SSH tunneling is a good idea.
[06:25] <alex1> help me plz, i wrote apt-get update and then it wrote:
[06:25] <alex1> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[06:25] <alex1> oops
[06:25] <oppi> hi
[06:25] <alex1> Reading package lists... Done
[06:25] <alex1> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[06:25] <alex1> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:25] <ufk> err.. before the X problem, my system usually doesn't boot! it get stuch on starting hotplug subsystem
[06:25] <oppi> hlskj
[06:25] <oppi> sjopjks
[06:25] <oppi> jsops
[06:25] <ufk> stuch=stuck
[06:25] <neighborlee> pinkisntwell, http://www.arl.wustl.edu/~mgeorg/linuxOnLaptop/xorg.conf.html < like there
[06:25] <Howie> Question: Could someone please help with getting streaming audio on the net to work in the browser??
[06:26] <afabian> ufk, some systems don't like hotplug.  you can disable it by sending some parameter or another to the kernel.
[06:26] <_jason> Howie, have you tried using the mplayer plugin?
[06:27] <Howie> _jason, no i have not....where can it be found....it seems that a plugin is missing.
[06:27] <ufk> can i remove lvm?
[06:27] <Kouwe_> can anyone please help me install these libs with apt-get "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ufk,  the 'noapic, noapci, nolapic, (or was it nolapci?) options may help there as well.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> well i gota run bbl
[06:27] <pinkisntwell> ok, any help with the sound?
[06:28] <ufk> ohhh.. acpi=off, yeah i'll try that
[06:28] <Howie> _jason.....will the Plugger plugin work??
[06:29] <_jason> Howie, I don't know what the Plugger is
[06:29] <ufk> acpi=off is working! i can boot my system!
[06:29] <oblib> Any MythTV users with Breezy here?
[06:29] <mcphail> Is it possible to detach a process from /dev/dsp without killing that process?
[06:29] <Howie> _jason....i`ll try and find the one you suggested....thanks.
[06:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Howie about mplayer
[06:30] <neighborlee> kouwe, http://www.arl.wustl.edu/~mgeorg/linuxOnLaptop/xorg.conf.html < and 'search' under contents of packages and it willl tell you what to apt-get install ( or synaptic)
[06:30] <Kouwe_> ok :) thnx neighborlee
[06:30] <neighborlee> gawd
[06:31] <neighborlee> kouwe, darn history LOL
[06:31] <neighborlee> wait
[06:31] <neighborlee> kouwe, wait
[06:31] <Kouwe_> ok ok ;)
[06:31] <neighborlee> kouwe, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:31] <Howie> _jason....thanks a lot....U must have access to a genit....many thanks.\
[06:31] <Kouwe_> ok im there
[06:31] <neighborlee> ;-)
[06:31] <neighborlee> kouwe, sorry bout that ..;00
[06:31] <Kouwe_> kubuntu 5.1, breezy right?
[06:31] <Kouwe_> np!
[06:32] <_jason> Howie, you need to install mplayer, and then install the plugin.  The package name for the plugin is  mplayerplug-in
[06:33] <neighborlee> kouwe, yup
[06:34] <neighborlee> kouwe, I could have just told you what package it wants but this will help you in the future
[06:34] <Kouwe_> yes ok
[06:35] <Kouwe_> but now i have this website, on wich 'name' should i search/install with apt-get (sorry never worked wit a deb based thing before)
[06:35] <neighborlee> kouwe, there is a new app that allows you to search from console but atm I dont recall what it is...
[06:35] <ufk> ok the gfx card is a radeon Xpress
[06:35] <ufk> in which section do i add the HwAccel option?
[06:35] <Kouwe_> hmmm ok
[06:35] <ufk> in the xorg.conf
[06:36] <MFen> is it possible to install permanently from the livecd or is that a misnomer?
[06:36] <Kouwe_> now i have this file, how can i install it?
[06:36] <Kouwe_> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb
[06:36] <neighborlee> ufk, I think its under szame section as your video driver is ...atm I cant look
[06:36] <neighborlee> MFen, fAik its not possible atm
[06:37] <neighborlee> MFen, work in progress I think..;-)
[06:37] <Millenniumgroup> dpkg --libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb
[06:37] <MFen> neighborlee: but the dvd is a combo thing, right?
[06:37] <Kouwe_> ok
[06:37] <_jason> !deb
[06:37] <ubotu> deb is probably To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:37] <neighborlee> kouwe, either from  console or with snaptic by searching for 'libstdc++'
[06:37] <neighborlee> MFen, yes
[06:37] <rossclarkartist>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[06:37] <Millenniumgroup> or add -i
[06:37] <_jason> kouwe, is that package not in the repos?
[06:37] <neighborlee> MFen, wait I think its already here..pretty sure thre is a dvd-installer thats also a liveDVD
[06:37] <Millenniumgroup> wtf...can anyone see my text?
[06:38] <_jason> Millenniumgroup, yes...
[06:38] <Millenniumgroup> ah lol :D
[06:38] <neighborlee> MFen, I think..I only just got a dvd burner so thats from memory ;-0000
[06:38] <neighborlee> Millenniumgroup, yes I see you
[06:38] <neighborlee> lol
[06:38] <Millenniumgroup> cool :)
[06:38] <neighborlee> on sorry I see jason replied..;-)
[06:38] <MFen> neighborlee: alas, i only have the live cd, not the dvd
[06:39] <neighborlee> MFen, then yeah yu must wait for the liveCd/installer unlesss you go with the liveDVD(installer ?)
[06:39] <rambo3> Ati doesn't care about linux people.
[06:39] <MFen> rambo3: ok konye
[06:39] <neighborlee> rambo3, I thought they just made a nifty new installer
[06:39] <neighborlee> gotta run..cu l8r all
[06:40] <Hoxzer_> how do I restart X with the command?
[06:40] <Hoxzer_> how do I restart X?
[06:40] <ufk> do i need to do Option "HWAccel" "off" or .. "0"? both doesn't start x.
[06:40] <rambo3> there are many ways ro testart x
[06:40] <Hoxzer_> :D teststart sounds funny but tell me
[06:40] <rambo3> i have freezing problem with ati drivers , every 10 seconds it freezes for about 0.2 seconds. I installed ati drivers no mesa in fglrxinfo . ubuntu : 2.6.12-9-386 ,and hyperthreading is disabled
[06:41] <Kouwe_> thnx al neighborlee _jason Millenniumgroup , its working :)
[06:41] <_jason> Hoxzer_, ctrl + alt + backspace
[06:41] <_jason> kouwe, yw
[06:41] <Hoxzer_> _jason: command...
[06:41] <Hoxzer_> I can't use ctrl+alt+backspace vai shell
[06:41] <_jason> Hoxzer_, oh must have missed that in your repetition...
[06:41] <rambo3>  i think it was  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:43] <marco__> hola a todos
[06:44] <Hoxzer_> Jason: worked
[06:45] <rambo3> my bad i had 3ddesktop running in the background and it mad it freeze :) stupid
[06:45] <ufk> how can i stop ubuntu from trying to get the time from an ntp server at boot time?
[06:46] <pussfeller> anyone using xine? does it play mp3 with libmad installed? mine doesnt
[06:46] <raghu> ufk: edit /etc/ntpd.conf or something similar
[06:46] <svk_frank> ufk: edit the /etc/rc.d structures
[06:46] <gimmulf> !ati
[06:46] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:46] <pussfeller> xine plays all my movies fine, but not mp3s, which is odd, since avis use mp3 as a backend frequently
[06:47] <trappist> ufk: sudo update-rc.d ntp remove
[06:47] <pussfeller> its a conundrum
[06:47] <MFen> heh. anyone know how to determine what eisa/isa devices are plugged into the system?
[06:47] <Polibio> hello
[06:47] <MFen> i've got kind of an old computer here and ubuntu doesn't have a driver for the network card, which is 3com
[06:47] <ufk> thanks alot, didn't ubuntu had update-rc.d. nice
[06:47] <ufk> didn't know...
[06:47] <MFen> i figure i can install the driver myself, but it'll be easier if i can figure out what the chipset it
[06:47] <MFen> is
[06:47] <svk_frank> ufk: up use that update-rc.d
[06:48] <Polibio> when I press the Help icon above, it doesn't work, what can I do?
[06:48] <raghu> trappist: he wants to disable not to remove
[06:48] <pussfeller> MFen: you can poke around  in /proc
[06:49] <trappist> raghu: all that does is take it out of the boot scripts.  it doesn't uninstall anything.
[06:49] <Polibio> I have just installed Ubuntu, but the Help icon doesn't work, what may happen?
[06:49] <mdke> does anyone know a battery maintenance program for laptops?
[06:49] <MFen> pussfeller: it's been a while since i had to look for isa devices. where in proc would they be?
[06:50] <raghu> trappist: ok cool...:)
[06:50] <trappist> MFen: check out isapnptools
[06:50] <MFen> trappist: hmm. i guess i'll have to fully install the system for that
[06:50] <MFen> (i was trying to do this during the install, but oh well)
[06:50] <trappist> ah
[06:51] <trappist> MFen: you're sure the driver isn't there?
[06:51] <MFen> trappist: no way to know until i know what the chipset is :)
[06:51] <johnny> anyone know of a good firewall paart from firestaqrted
[06:51] <trappist> hah.
[06:51] <johnny> firestarter
[06:51] <trappist> johnny: ipkungfu
[06:52] <QRZ> johnny:  Ubuntu-firewall is nice... although it's command line only.
[06:52] <johnny> dose ubuntu havea built in one??
[06:52] <_jason> johnny, someone mentioned shorewall before but I've never used it
[06:52] <trappist> MFen: try 3c515
[06:53] <QRZ> johnny:  It has the capability built-in however, it usually requires an app to configure it for you (such as firestarter) unless you want to learn iptables syntax.
[06:53] <MFen> trappist: no go. 3c59x installed though.
[06:53] <johnny> lol would ipkungfu work then instead?
[06:53] <MFen> i don't know if that means anything.. a lot of drivers don't check that hard to see if the hardware is present
[06:54] <QRZ> johnny:  It should but I've never used ipkungfu so I can't comment on it.
[06:54] <trappist> MFen: I've never heard of an unsupported 3com card in linux, so I've got $5 that says the driver's there.  I just checked and ubuntu builds all 3com drivers as modules.
[06:54] <svk_frank> can I use deb packages from the sid of debian in ubuntu (breezy)?
[06:54] <johnny> ok good i did download firestarter but it didnt work
[06:54] <trappist> johnny: ipkungfu works pretty nicely
[06:54] <ufk> i read the ati wiki from ubuntu, i apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, it doesn't install the module fglrx, only the xorg driver, any ideas?
[06:54] <QRZ> johnny:  What didn't work about it?
[06:54] <Polibio> how can I reinstall *Help* in Ubuntu?
[06:55] <johnny> it comes up with this Error spawning shell process: Failed to execute child process "firestarter.sh" (No such file or directory)
[06:55] <johnny> Failed to start the firewall
[06:55] <svk_frank> jonny: check out firewall builder it is really nice
[06:55] <arneolav> can anyone tell me what package to install if i want to install kubuntu
[06:55] <QRZ> johnny:  Did you configure it properly?  I think it's all gui-based so configuration should be fairly straight-forward.
[06:56] <johnny> yeh but for some reason the gui app didnt install so i can only use it command base
[06:56] <johnny> and when i go to start it that eoor comes up
[06:56] <dude> how do i install restricted formats ?
[06:56] <johnny> error
[06:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell dude about restricted
[06:57] <QRZ> johnny:  I see.  Wierd... well, if you aren't afraid of the command line, there's Ubuntu-firewall.  It provides a nice firewall and has features such as NAT routing and port forwarding if you need.
[06:57] <_jason> Polibio, did it get uninstalled?
[06:57] <johnny> lol i love the command line my best linux feture :)
[06:58] <QRZ> johnny:  Then try it out  --> http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/14/29/
[06:58] <johnny> :) thx QRZ
[06:58] <Polibio> _jason, I don't know, it tries to open the help window but it can't.
[06:58] <QRZ> johnny:  Just make sure you completely remove firestarter.
[06:58] <gimmulf> Hi, what Ati drivers should i get for my Ubuntu 5.10 breezy (im going to run big screen) having an X800Pro card
[06:58] <_jason> Polibio, do you have the package "yelp" installed?
[06:58] <QRZ> johnny:  Having more than one active firewall configurator causes problems!
[06:59] <_jason> Polibio, you can try reinstalling yelp, it's the help viewer I believe
[06:59] <johnny> ok i see
[06:59] <Polibio> _jason, when I write "yelp" in the console I guet the following:
[06:59] <Polibio> yelp: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:59] <Polibio> how can I reinstall yelp?
[06:59] <XiCillin> what is the windows key called in ubuntu?
[06:59] <XiCillin> im trying to make it a shortcut to the mneu
[07:00] <_jason> search for it in synaptic, right click -> reinstall -> apply
[07:00] <Polibio> ok, I'll try, thanks
[07:00] <trappist> johnny: all the cool guys use ipkungfu.  I say that mostly because I wrote it, but it's true anyway.
[07:01] <trappist> !tell johnny about ipkungfu
[07:01] <rebort> can anyone hel me with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[07:01] <Alex_BO2> well...i know that it isn't the right channel...but i have not found a right one... i have a question about paypal.well, if there is anyone who can help me, i will be grateful.
[07:02] <QRZ> trappist:  I'll have to check out ipkungfu then!  I've heard about it but haven't looked at it yet.
[07:02] <trappist> QRZ: big new release coming soon :)
[07:02] <johnny> lol sikk you wrote it
[07:02] <QRZ> trappist:  Nice!
[07:03] <johnny> well i think i use ipkungfu then
[07:03] <trappist> johnny: /join #ipkungfu for all the support you can eat
[07:03] <QRZ> trappist:  Does it support port forwarding to multiple hosts?
[07:03] <johnny> :) nice one dude!!
[07:04] <trappist> QRZ: not the same port to multiple hosts of course, but yes
[07:05] <QRZ> trappist:  Actually, I've just joined #ipkungfu... will hang out in there for a while :-)
[07:05] <[wb] NoliteLinux> hi all
[07:06] <[wb] NoliteLinux> I've just installed Ubuntu after some 10 years of Windows usage...
[07:06] <tanek> grats
[07:06] <johnny> trappist: i will defenatly check out your chat tonight since ive only been using linux for 2 days now and i really need to secure my box
[07:07] <[wb] NoliteLinux> can anyone tell me where to find information on how to get better screen refresh rates? Mine is locked at 60Hz for some reason (was using 85 under windows) and now the screen is kinda flimsy
[07:07] <johnny> im off now people
[07:07] <[wb] NoliteLinux> appreciate any help
[07:07] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:07] <tanek> yah
[07:07] <johnny> bye bye
[07:07] <hoguejs> is it possible that there isn't a inetd daemon on ubuntu?
[07:08] <tanek> [wb] NoliteLinux:  or just check out system->prefrences->screen resolution
[07:08] <Stormx2> I need to reset my printer driver to its default settings, how would I go about this?
[07:08] <Ng> hoguejs: no
[07:08] <[wb] NoliteLinux> tanek,  it's locked there
[07:08] <Ng> hoguejs: inetd and xinetd are available
[07:08] <[wb] NoliteLinux> can only choose 60hz @ 1024x768
[07:08] <hoguejs> Ng: do I need to install/setup something?
[07:09] <Ng> hoguejs: install inetutils-inetd
[07:09] <[wb] NoliteLinux> Im trying trappist 's advice
[07:09] <hoguejs> Ng: ok, i'll try that, thanks!
[07:09] <xkahn> Hmm...  I have a printer connected to my ubuntu box.
[07:09] <xkahn> I'd like to share it with other linux hosts on my network.
[07:09] <xkahn> How do I do that?
[07:10] <Ng> hoguejs: I installed it earlier as it goes and I noticed that it didn't include an inetd.conf, but they're fairly easy to construct and you generally don't want anything that's in the default one
[07:10] <_tux> i did chmod -R 600 <myhomefolder> and now i cant log in! plz help!
[07:10] <[wb] NoliteLinux> Hm... I can't alter any of the text in that document trappist
[07:11] <trappist> _tux: that was a bad, bad idea
[07:11] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: you have to do it as root: sudo <editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:11] <Polibio> I have reinstalled yelp, but it still not work
[07:11] <Polibio> any help?
[07:11] <trappist> _tux: you're probably going to have to boot into single user mode to fix it
[07:12] <[wb] NoliteLinux> huh... how do I do it as root, thought I "was" root when I logged in? o.O
[07:12] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: you access the root account via sudo.  sudo lets you run individual commands as root.
[07:12] <[wb] NoliteLinux> looking
[07:12] <_jason> Polibio, does yelp now run at least?
[07:12] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: linux security would suck if you did everything as root.
[07:12] <Stormx2> I need to reset my printer driver to its default settings, how would I go about this?
[07:13] <Polibio> _jason, it is the same error than before: yelp: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:13] <_jason> Polibio, let em find out what package owns that, one sec
[07:13] <[wb] NoliteLinux> trappist, hm... ok... thanks... really is some stuff for me to learn here I suppose
[07:13] <trappist> ah an error message!
[07:14] <hoguejs> Ng: yes... I made the .conf earlier. I was just wondering why there wasn't any daemon to restart :)
[07:14] <trappist> Polibio: do you have firefox installed?
[07:14] <[wb] NoliteLinux> err... I recon sudo is a program of some kind, I'm running Ubuntu... how could I find that program/run it?
[07:14] <Polibio> trappist, yes
[07:14] <trappist> _jason: apt-file search libgtkembedmoz.so
[07:14] <Polibio> version 1.5
[07:14] <eternalist> Is steam working for anyone else by any chance?
[07:14] <eternalist> its not connecting for me
[07:14] <trappist> Polibio: that could be your problem.
[07:15] <[wb] NoliteLinux> d'oh... You know I'm running Ubuntu since this is THE ubuntu channel... lol
[07:15] <_jason> Polibio, did you leave firefox 1.07 installed?
[07:15] <Stormx2> Please...
[07:15] <Polibio> _jason, not sure, let me check
[07:15] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: in the console
[07:15] <gimmulf> Could someone send me the Ati driver installer? i cant get into X and the driver is on a ssl site which links wont support
[07:15] <_jason> trappist, thanks, didn't know that... was doing which and then dpkg
[07:15] <_tux> trappist: single user mode? plz explain......
[07:15] <[wb] NoliteLinux> is there any webpage explaining how to use the console as sudo?
[07:16] <ufk> ok.. acpi=off boots my system just fine. the problem is that i can't load X! if i use ati driver, linux stuck even before i can write the user and password in gdm, if i use the vesa driver, the computer freeze after it finished loading the gnome-panel, any ideas?
[07:16] <trappist> _tux: at your grub prompt press 'e' then type 'init=/bin/bash' and hit enter.  that should get you to a root prompt.
[07:16] <trappist> !tell [wb] NoliteLinux about sudo
[07:16] <[wb] NoliteLinux> maybe I should upgrade my graphics drivers for Linux.. hm..
[07:16] <Polibio> _jason, I deleted Firefox 1.07
[07:16] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: what video card
[07:16] <ufk> someone told me i can add something to the grub boot menu that may fix it, but i can't scroll back and see what it is, any ideas?
[07:16] <trappist> Polibio: firefox 1.07 provides the file that's missing
[07:16] <_jason> Polibio, when you installed firefox1.5, did you use the wiki guide?
[07:17] <Polibio> _jason, I tried to use a guide, but 1.07 was always back at the end, so, I overwrite it
[07:18] <PokerFacePenguin> ufk, what card u got?
[07:18] <_jason> Polibio, I'd recommend you remove your current install, reinstall 1.07 and then follow the wiki guide if you really want firefox1.5
[07:18] <ufk> ati radeon Xpress on an amd Mobile Sempron HP Pavilion
[07:18] <Polibio> ok _jason thanks
[07:18] <_jason> Polibio, the guide has worked fine for many people, try it one more time and take it a little slower
[07:18] <_jason> Polibio, np
[07:18] <PokerFacePenguin> ufk, its in the cheatcodes on a knoppix cd....i usesd to have to do that...something=radeon
[07:19] <PokerFacePenguin> cant remember exactly
[07:19] <[wb] NoliteLinux> trappist, thanks for the Wiki
[07:19] <trappist> np
[07:20] <x_or> Is there a way to install Ubuntu into a currently live linux system?  I remember gentoo could do something like this, you do a change root and then build from within that.  I have an old laptop without a CD ROM that has a really old version of linux on it.
[07:21] <eternalist> !tell eternalist about radeon
[07:21] <eternalist> !tell eternalist about ati
[07:21] <PokerFacePenguin> !radeon
[07:21] <ubotu> PokerFacePenguin: Wish i knew
[07:21] <trappist> eternalist: /msg ubotu radeon
[07:21] <eternalist> !ati
[07:21] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:21] <PokerFacePenguin> lol
[07:21] <trappist> err ati
[07:22] <djk_> eternalist: you can use /msg ubotu foo
[07:22] <eternalist> trappist, i know it told me lol
[07:22] <trappist> ubotu rocks
[07:22] <ubotu> trappist: Are you smoking crack?
[07:22] <_jason> lol
[07:22] <eternalist> I followed this exact guide
[07:22] <eternalist> and X hung on a black screen
[07:22] <[wb] NoliteLinux> how do I run a ".RUN" program?
[07:23] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: sh filename.run
[07:23] <[wb] NoliteLinux> yeah
[07:23] <MFen> trappist: you're probably right that the driver will be available
[07:23] <PokerFacePenguin> ufk, xmodule=radeon at the boot prompt
[07:23] <MFen> 3c59x doesn't seem to be working though
[07:23] <[wb] NoliteLinux> but how do I know where that file is placed through the console? I've put it on the desktop
[07:23] <trappist> MFen: I doubt it's a 3c59x chip
[07:24] <Millenniumgroup> quick question: are there online games in the synaptic manager, any examples?
[07:24] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: you should have a Desktop directory in your homedir
[07:24] <[wb] NoliteLinux> I do
[07:24] <MFen> trappist: any idea how i can figure out what it is?
[07:24] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: should be there
[07:24] <MFen> i just tried discover --enable-all all , and there's no network card listed
[07:24] <Stormx2> I need to make my printer work peoples of earth!
[07:24] <[wb] NoliteLinux> hm..
[07:24] <trappist> MFen: it's been years since I dealt with isa hardware, and I don't remember much about it :( but I do remember isapnptools coming in handy
[07:25] <trappist> [wb] NoliteLinux: cd Desktop;ls
[07:25] <svk_frank> Oh, yea baby isa with (IRQ's and DMA's) there is the fun :)
[07:26] <MFen> bleh
[07:26] <Wammy> How is Ubuntu's support for PCI IDE cards?
[07:26] <MFen> i just tried every single 3c* driver. only 3c509 and 3c59x installed, and neither one gave me an eth0 device
[07:27] <viller> hi
[07:29] <trappist> Wammy: your card either is or is not supported.  what card is it?
[07:29] <Wammy> well im lookin into buying one
[07:29] <trappist> MFen: did I mention isapnptools?
[07:29] <hoguejs> hey, I'm looking for the name of the popular CVS app... is doesn't have 'cvs' in it. anyone knows?
[07:29] <Alex> svn
[07:29] <trappist> Wammy: good!  find out about compatibility first, buy second :)
[07:29] <trappist> yeah svn
[07:30] <Alex> hoguejs: (probably)
[07:30] <Alex> Evenin' trappist
[07:30] <MFen> trappist: small problem. it's not on the cd.
[07:30] <trappist> Alex
[07:30] <hoguejs> I had something longer in mind... like a noun
[07:30] <trappist> MFen: that does present a problem.
[07:30] <trappist> hoguejs: its proper name is subversion
[07:30] <Wammy> trappist, so which is recomended?
[07:30] <bkw> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 03f0:2b17 Hewlett-Packard is that /dev/usb/lp3?
[07:30] <owner989> setmode +x  owner989
[07:30] <hoguejs> oh, that's it!
[07:30] <nascaron> grtings
[07:30] <hoguejs> thanks!
[07:30] <trappist> Wammy: I dunno, I don't use one, but I can say stay away from highpoint
[07:31] <MFen> trappist: but i have a usb drive here.
[07:31] <Wammy> highpoint?
[07:31] <nascaron> can anyone help me with enabling the sound of my internal speaker?
[07:31] <trappist> MFen: any usb ports on that ancient beast?
[07:31] <trappist> Wammy: I had bad experiences with an onboard highpoint controller
[07:31] <Wammy> ah
[07:31] <owner989> do you know if you leave a canon usb printer on it causes errors
[07:31] <MFen> oddly, yes. it seems to be only the ethernet card that's old
[07:32] <owner989> but if its turned off then ubuntu installs
[07:32] <MFen> either that or it's broken, but i doubt it because there are activity lights flashing
[07:32] <trappist> MFen: check dmesg
[07:33] <Wammy> also, if a mount a new drive via mount /dev/hdd /something
[07:33] <Wammy> will it auto-mount on boot?
[07:33] <MFen> EISA: probing bus 0 at eisa.0.  .. Detected 0 cards.
[07:34] <Burk> hi
[07:34] <MFen> wtf.
[07:34] <Agrajag> no, you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[07:34] <Wammy> ah thats where it is
[07:34] <viller> what command deletes a folder?
[07:34] <Wammy> couldnt remeber the name
[07:34] <Stormx2> rmdir
[07:34] <Wammy> how do i add items to be started on boot?
[07:34] <trappist> viller: rm -rf to delete it and its contents recursively
[07:34] <Wammy> like back in the way it was /etc/rc.local (or something similar)
[07:34] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone know if the Linux kernel has priority-inheriting semaphores yet?
[07:34] <trappist> Wammy: your init scripts are in /etc/init.d
[07:35] <Wammy> ok
[07:35] <Millenniumgroup> Redirecting the output of a null command = in english what does it mean? Rederiecting the output of a zero value or???
[07:35] <trappist> Wammy: I would sudo apt-get install bum && sudo bum
[07:35] <Wammy> what is bum?
[07:35] <trappist> boot-up-manager
[07:35] <trappist> gui init configurator
[07:35] <Wammy> ah
[07:35] <Wammy> ok
[07:35] <Burk> guys, I installed 5.10 version from original cd. how do I switch to dapper drake? should I add some repositories or change the active ones? thanks
[07:36] <trappist> I come from a chkconfig world and would rather use bum than mess with update-rc.d etc.
[07:36] <rambo3> its some much easyer in text mode
[07:36] <Wammy> also what is the latest version?
[07:36] <Wammy> 5.10 ?
[07:36] <Hoxzer_> rambo3: fix my tvout problem :D
[07:36] <MFen> Burk: change the active ones, but only if you're sure.  it's very hard to go back, and almost impossible to go back cleanly
[07:36] <_candyban> Hi guys
[07:36] <StR> hi all
[07:36] <StR> are there packages for firefox 1.5 already?
[07:37] <[wb] NoliteLinux> hm... Im getting sick of using swedish... gonna try to change that language in Ubuntu
[07:37] <_candyban> Just wondering ... is e17 already in breezy?
[07:37] <some> holas
[07:37] <some> algen habla erspaol?
[07:37] <Stormx2> I fixed my printer :D yay
[07:37] <Burk> mmm...well I'm not sure I want to change...maybe I just add some repositories...for instance, I cannot find the right repository for mplayer :(
[07:37] <_tux> trappist: thanks:)
[07:37] <_candyban> Burk: try nerim
[07:37] <kevor> ubumtidumptummmmmmmm
[07:38] <Burk> nerim?
[07:38] <trappist> _candyban: e17 is going to ship with duke nukem forever
[07:38] <_tux> trappist: once i am root, what then? how to fix what ive messed up?
[07:38] <Wammy> how would i add my new drive to /etc/fstab?
[07:38] <Wammy> what Option do i set to it?
[07:38] <eternalist> Stupid ATI card wont work
[07:38] <owner989> burk just use easy ubuntu
[07:38] <owner989> to get mplayer
[07:38] <_candyban> trappist: Bummer :(
[07:38] <trappist> _tux: step one: chmod 755 /home/whatever
[07:38] <owner989> eternalist use easy ubuntu program
[07:39] <owner989> thats how i installed ati drivers
[07:39] <Burk> ok, tnx, I'll try
[07:39] <asfra> hi, I have some problems mounting my cd-rom, i just get "unable to mount device, probably no media in device". What could i check, i'm prietty sure it's not a hardware problem..
[07:39] <owner989> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=ati+driver
[07:39] <owner989> thats the link
[07:39] <trappist> _tux: NOT -R
[07:39] <ufk> how can i install firefox 1.5?
[07:39] <_tux> trappist: ok..then......?
[07:39] <Mabus06> ufk, see /topic
[07:39] <_candyban> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[07:40] <trappist> _tux: once you've done that you should be able to log in normally, but a lot of stuff is still going to be broken.  let's see what we can fix...
[07:40] <_candyban> Burk That was for you ... appearently it's marillat ... Just remembered "nerim" :)
[07:40] <eternalist> owner989, whats that, where do i get it from?
[07:40] <Wammy> trappist, when adding my new drive (mounted via 'mount /dev/hdd /dir' ) to /etc/fstab what would i set for <opts> ?
[07:40] <eternalist> owner989, did you used to get black screens when following those guides? X just hangs for me, doesnt launch anything
[07:40] <trappist> _tux: find /home/whatever -type d -exec chmod o+x {} \;
[07:40] <trappist> Wammy: defaults unless there's some reason to put something else.  what filesystem is it/
[07:41] <Wammy> ext3
[07:41] <owner989> eternalist http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/10/27/65-easy-ubuntu-24-beta
[07:41] <trappist> Wammy: defaults should be fine
[07:41] <asfra> ChanServ, hi, I have some problems mounting my cd-rom, i just get "unable to mount device, probably no media in device". What should i check? i'm prietty sure it's not a hardware problem
[07:41] <Wammy> ok
[07:41] <_candyban> Burk: It also has decss (conveniently packaged)
[07:41] <owner989> eternalist are you saying startx doesnt work at all?
[07:41] <trappist> asfra: try another disc
[07:41] <Hoxzer_> Are you ready ....
[07:41] <Hoxzer_> shutup and dance
[07:41] <_tux> trappist: thx..what will that do?
[07:41] <Hoxzer_> maybe I shouldn't sing here
[07:42] <trappist> transgress: it will give you permissions to the folders inside your homedir
[07:42] <trappist> _tux: that should fix 98% of what you broke.  now reboot normally and think REALLY REALLY hard before using chmod -R in the future.
[07:42] <trappist> oops.
[07:42] <trappist> _tux: what I said to transgress was meant for you
[07:42] <owner989> eternalist, are you here
[07:43] <asfra> trappist, of course i have done that :) even new ones doesn't work
[07:43] <lukasink> hello, i booted up my computer this morning but when I tried to log in with GDM it gave me an error saying that it could not write to the authorization file
[07:43] <lukasink> any suggestions?
[07:43] <trappist> asfra: do you have more than one optical drive?
[07:44] <eternalist> owner989, thats correct
[07:44] <eternalist> owner989, i use GDM on startup, and it doesnt show up, X just hangs
[07:44] <_tux> trappist: thanks:).......actually i was trying to make my home folder inaccessible to another user (my bro:)......
[07:44] <owner989> eternalist are you using windows right now then
[07:44] <eternalist> owner989, no, i switched back to the ati driver, not using fglrx
[07:44] <owner989> ok
[07:45] <trappist> _tux: yeah I've made a similar mistake.  just chmod 750 (NO -R) and make sure he's not in the same group as you
[07:45] <_candyban> Can anyone access www.enlightenment.org (is it just me or is something wrong with their page)?
[07:45] <derrickw> hey is anybody familiar with cedega? i'm having a problem with it. i'm trying to install ragnarok online, and when i try to run it under cedega, nothing happens. if i recall correctly, the ragnarok installer is a self-extracting exe, and i don't think cedega knows what to do with it. any ideas?
[07:45] <owner989> so you know about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <owner989> eternalist?
[07:46] <trappist> derrickw: self-extracting exes can be unzipped.  try unzipping and running cedega against the extracted installer.
[07:46] <ufk> ok it seems that when i start gnome it freeze my X, afterstep and xfce4 works fine. any ideas why?
[07:46] <owner989> the weird thing is that the packaged ati driver doesnt work for me but the fglrx driver does
[07:46] <Stormchaser> hi! 2 questions: Where can I get tge free ttf pack ( the one with ms sans serif, verdana, arial,...), and the 2nd: How can I set my screen resolution to 75 DPI istead of 95?
[07:46] <derrickw> trappist - what should i use to unzip an exe?
[07:47] <trappist> Stormchaser: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:47] <trappist> derrickw: unzip :)
[07:47] <owner989> but i would try that easy ubuntu program eternalist
[07:47] <Stormchaser> trappist: Thanks :)
[07:47] <owner989> because it worked for me
[07:47] <_tux> trappist: got it.....thanks:)
[07:47] <Wammy> anyone here use a PCI IDE card?
[07:48] <derrickw> oh nice, there is an unzip command. i have been trying to use the terminal for as much as possible to help learn it lately anyway. i was actually thinking about building a linux from scratch distro so i could learn what i'm doing better, but then i don't know if i could use apt-get and it's such a nice feature
[07:48] <seaprince> hello, everyone. I am new comer here.
[07:48] <viller> i want to copy contents of a folder to inside of another folder
[07:48] <Stormchaser> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. <-- Aw. Damn :/
[07:48] <viller> how do i do that? i can only copy the whole folder
[07:48] <owner989> i have a PCI-E card wammy
[07:48] <Mabus06> what's the default folder to install things?
[07:48] <trappist> derrickw: there's dfs (debian from scratch)
[07:48] <owner989> /home/ mabus
[07:48] <Faravid> hmm i just checked wiki for ubuntu disk space requirements and it says it takes 2.2 gigs, how come breezy badger (single cd) doesn't fit with normal install to 3.2 gigs, also tried over 4.2 gigs with LVM (2 disks) - no fit, failes at the packages copy, says /var is full (used automatic and manual, yes i enabled emptying disks)
[07:48] <derrickw> trappist - that would include apt-get?
[07:48] <Wammy> owner989, bah! :) im looking into expanding my computer's support for IDE drives.
[07:49] <mathias> When installing Ubuntu, the root password is not asked????
[07:49] <viller> i want to copy contents of a folder to inside of another folder
[07:49] <derek> mathias, no
[07:49] <owner989> ubuntu doesnt use root mathais
[07:49] <derrickw> mathias - the root password is the first user's password
[07:49] <Wammy> since i used a cheapo computer to start, now i dont feel like reinstalling onto other hardware
[07:49] <owner989> use sudo
[07:49] <trappist> derrickw: I assume so
[07:49] <Faravid> mathias, use sudo command to run stuff requiring root permissions
[07:49] <_tux> trappist: i had noticed that my desktop icons became all red! when i made that mistake.......
[07:49] <lukasink> hello, i booted up my computer this morning but when I tried to log in with GDM it gave me an error saying that it could not write to the authorization file
[07:49] <asfra> is there an ubuntu wiki?
[07:49] <viller> i want to copy contents of a folder to inside of another folder
[07:49] <lukasink> anyone got any ideas?
[07:49] <orbx> what type of partition does windows need to install on?
[07:49] <quitte_> lukasink: maybe out of diskspace?
[07:49] <trappist> viller: cp -R folder1/* folder2/
[07:49] <owner989> ntfs or fat32 orbx
[07:50] <Faravid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <owner989> but ubuntu can only write to fat32
[07:50] <quitte_> orbx type b
[07:50] <lukasink> quitte_: i know for sure that's not the problem
[07:50] <viller> trappist: is the * mark needed?
[07:50] <mathias> But is there no root user???
[07:50] <owner989> thats right mathias
[07:50] <Mabus06> what's the default folder to install things?
[07:50] <owner989> you use sudo and the your user password
[07:50] <trappist> viller: without the * it will copy the directory itself, rather than its contents
[07:50] <derrickw> trappist - i would love to build a simple debian distro for this old laptop i found in my closet and stick a wireless card in it, use it as a wifi console comp. and then i could go into coffee shops and use lynx. unfortunately, the laptop is eight years old and i can't get a power supply to make it work for less than $70
[07:50] <Wammy> (off topic) but does OS X read ext2/3 fs?
[07:50] <viller> trappist: but i don't need it for folder2?
[07:51] <Chousuke> Wammy: There's a driver for Panther
[07:51] <trappist> viller: no
[07:51] <Chousuke> Wammy: None for Tiger AFAIK.
[07:51] <Wammy> hrm, youd figure it read it
[07:51] <Faravid> so, could someone help me with the space problem, shouldn't over 4 gigs be enough for default install of ubuntu?
[07:51] <Mabus06> what's the default folder to install things?
[07:51] <Wammy> now linux does read HFS and HFS+?
[07:51] <orbx> quitte_ > why?
[07:51] <trappist> viller: the shell will expand * to mean the contents of that folder, so your command says "copy everything in folder1 into folder2"
[07:51] <quitte_> lukasink: do you own the .Xauthority file in your home
[07:51] <quitte_> orbx thats the partition tybe for vfat
[07:51] <Mabus06> come on this isn't a hard question, I'm just getting ignored here... where's the default folder that things are normally installed to?
[07:51] <quitte_> orbx: dont know for ntfs
[07:52] <viller> trappist: i understood, thank you
[07:52] <orbx> quitte_ > i will try that, i need for xbox 360 media center ;)
[07:52] <lukasink> Mabus06: the binaries are usually installed to /usr/bin
[07:52] <owner989> Mabus06, /home/username
[07:52] <trappist> Mabus06: it doesn't work like that.  most apps have many components that get installed into their appropriate locations.
[07:52] <Mabus06> thank you lukasink
[07:52] <mathias> Thanks a lot
[07:53] <x_or> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older Sharp laptop with an external CDROM.  I cannot determine the CDROM driver needed during installation.  Googling for CD-CE01 doesn't help; anyone have clues on how I can determine what module is needed?
[07:53] <MenZa`> does anyone have a clue why I can't sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[07:53] <gimmulf> When i do sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 it says: E: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate  ... hmm?
[07:53] <Riddell> MenZa`: what does it say when you do?
[07:53] <MenZa`> Riddell: can I paste two lines here :P?
[07:54] <trappist> MenZa`: I don't think any of the ops are looking - sneek one in
[07:54] <MenZa`> lol
[07:54] <MenZa`> hold on
[07:54] <owner989> do you people prefer kde or gnome
[07:54] <lukasink> quitte_: there is not Xauthority file
[07:54] <MenZa`> the following packs will be removed: kubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <trappist> lukasink: .Xautority, not Xauthority
[07:54] <MenZa`> 0 is upgraded, 0 is re-installed, 0 is uninstalled and 4 aren't upgraded.
[07:55] <Riddell> owner989: there is no answer to that question
[07:55] <bluefoxicy> Anyone know how to get apt to give a list oft upgradable packages
[07:55] <MenZa`> Continue? Y
[07:55] <owner989> its an opinion riddell
[07:55] <trappist> MenZa`: hit enter.
[07:55] <Riddell> owner989: exactly
[07:55] <Strag0> Hello, i'm having two problems using 5.10. One is that I installed 5.10 on a machine with 3 other drives (NTFS). The drives are mounted but I can't access them (root is the owner). I can "Browse" them in Diskutil
[07:55] <MenZa`> trappist: I did, obviously
[07:55] <Strag0> er
[07:55] <trappist> MenZa`: what's the problem?
[07:55] <Strag0> Disk manager, but I can't modify anything. =X any clue how to fix that?
[07:55] <owner989> strag
[07:55] <Faravid> how come ubuntu doesn't fit 3,2gb drive, using the single cd install
[07:56] <MenZa`> trappist: well, my idea is to re-install it from scratch
[07:56] <MenZa`> (just kubuntu-desktop)
[07:56] <Ruti> tzuztutzu
[07:56] <MenZa`> but I can't, since it's not removed.
[07:56] <owner989> strag0 http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[07:56] <trappist> MenZa`: maybe you misunderstand, kubuntu-desktop's purpose is to have many dependencies that install when you install it.  it depends on them, not the other way around, so they won't get removed when you remove it.
[07:56] <lukasink> quitte_: the only file that starts with an X in my home directory is xsession-errors which is an empty file
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> BREH
[07:56] <MenZa`> trappist: oh?
[07:57] <gimmulf> hmmm E: package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate   <--- Should i install gcc-4.0 instead?
[07:57] <MenZa`> can I reinstall it somehow?
[07:57] <Strag0> Owner989: Thank you!
[07:57] <quitte_> lukasink: .X notice the dot
[07:57] <owner989> np
[07:57] <MenZa`> 'cause I really killed it trying to install kde 3.5
[07:57] <owner989> that guide is good strag
[07:57] <owner989> i had the same problem
[07:57] <trappist> MenZa`: reinstall what?  kubuntu-desktop and all its dependencies?
[07:57] <Maniqui> hi. yesterday I has been helped to install FF 1.5 in my fresh Ubuntu. I'm very newbie to Ubuntu and Linux.
[07:57] <Maniqui> I have installed it manually.
[07:57] <MenZa`> trappist: exactly.
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:/tmp$ apt-cache show upgrades
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> W: Unable to locate package upgrades
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> that didn't work, hummm. . . .
[07:57] <lukasink> quitte_: that's including the .
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> ouch
[07:57] <Strag0> My other issue is that my "Add Applications" program has stopped working. It gives me a password prompt but then nothing opens! Any ideas on why?
[07:57] <Maniqui> Now, I didnt understand why I needed to install it in a "hard" way
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> apt-cahce dumpavail spito ut too much.
[07:57] <Maniqui> and not simple by using Synaptic
[07:58] <XiCillin> anybody know how long it would take to upgrade hoary to breezy?
[07:58] <Maniqui> someone have given me an explanation, but I think I didnt understood it.
[07:58] <trappist> MenZa`: sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(echo $(apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | grep : | cut -d: -f2))
[07:58] <MenZa`> trappist: all of that in one line?
[07:58] <trappist> yeah
[07:59] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  FF 1.5 isn't packaged yet.
[07:59] <MFen> trappist: joke's on me
[07:59] <Maniqui> what does it mean, bluefoxicy?
[07:59] <steven_> Hi everyone, does anyone know how to switch your default movie player plugin for firefox.  I ran into an error trying to play a gif (totem failed) and so I just installed mplayer, but can't figure out how to make it the default.
[07:59] <MenZa`> trappist: thanks dude :D
[07:59] <MFen> it was a 3c905, pci. and it wasn't seated properly.
[07:59] <quitte_> lukasink ls -a? files with dot are hidden
[07:59] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  the 1.5 package in the unstable ubuntu version uninstalls the english language translation of Ubuntu, which leaves half of the apps running with all buttons and menus saying [] [] [] [] [] [] [[] ] []  instead of anything meaningful
[07:59] <trappist> MFen: awesome!
[07:59] <MenZa`> trappist: it reinstalls it completely right?
[08:00] <lukasink> quitte_: i am using ls -a
[08:00] <trappist> MenZa`: *shrug* I've never quite done it that way, but that's the idea
[08:00] <MenZa`> hah
[08:00] <MenZa`> thanks :P
[08:00] <MFen> trappist: as soon as i rebooted it was working. ubuntu wins again :)
[08:00] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  In Ubuntu, when something is released, they package it up and make sure it works.  After about 6 months, they freeze everything they have working and make a release of Ubuntu; at this point they can pretty much guarantee the system works
[08:00] <trappist> np
[08:00] <MenZa`> It's downloading all sorts of stuff that looks kde-ish
[08:00] <MenZa`> :d
[08:00] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  so, that release of ubuntu gets only minor fixes for bugs that break shit, until 6 more months go by, and all the new shit gets rolled back out in another release.
[08:01] <MenZa`> ..wait, that means I should close konversation
[08:01] <MenZa`> brb in xfire
[08:01] <MenZa`> :p
[08:01] <hoasd> hi
[08:01] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  your choices are to move to Dapper for FF1.5, in which case you're likely to suddenly find that X doesn't start and you can't log in; or wait until April and have a whole slew of new shininess that will just work
[08:01] <hoasd> does someone can help me with a RT2500 chipset for wireless that breezy doesnt recognize
[08:02] <Maniqui> bluefoxicy, I think I dont get it yet... I can make my head around what you are explaining. Do you mean that FF 1.5, shouldnt work fine in Ubuntu 5.10?
[08:02] <lukasink> hoasd
[08:02] <MarcN> Maniqui: drapper's X is causing me some problems just this week...
[08:02] <gimmulf> Shouldnt dh-make be in respitorys? or is it dh-make-perl???
[08:02] <adjacent> anyone used skype?
[08:02] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui: Afirmative.
[08:02] <MFen> bluefoxicy: or add the dapper deb-src line, apt-get source, and backport it yourself
[08:02] <lukasink> hoasd: i have a card with that chipset and it works fine
[08:02] <MFen> and hope that works.
[08:02] <adjacent> am i safe installing the debian package w/ dpkg?
[08:02] <owner989> is there any benefit to using dapper
[08:02] <gnomefreak> if im not mistaken dapper comes with FF1.0.7 and you can get 1.5 from additional sources but as bluefoxicy  said it is not stable and should not be run under ubuntu
[08:02] <bluefoxicy> MFen:  Heh :)
[08:02] <MarcN> Maniqui: If I boot with a 2nd monitor connected to the notebook => no X.  Removing the 2nd monitor and reboot is okay.
[08:02] <Maniqui> but... I *can* install FF 1.5 perfectly in my WinXP that is from year 2000?
[08:02] <hoasd> i updated today my hoary to breezy and i dont know why it didnt install that card
[08:02] <gnomefreak> owner989,  the people that would need to use dapper are people that are helping test it
[08:02] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Dapper appears to have 1.499+somebiglineoflettersandnumbers
[08:03] <Maniqui> but isnt FF 1.5 stable?
[08:03] <hoasd> it is supossed to work fine
[08:03] <hoasd> but i am no idea why it didnt...
[08:03] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  It's stable, it's just not integrated with the current system yet.
[08:03] <gimmulf> Shouldnt dh-make be in respitorys? or is it dh-make-perl? Please help
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Maniqui,  not for linux its not
[08:03] <MenZa`> Maniqui: Yes it is
[08:03] <Faravid> could anyone ask my super simple question please? (already asked twice, noone answered) :\
[08:03] <MenZa`> At least for windows
[08:03] <MenZa`> :P
[08:03] <hoasd> and i am driving craezy my self trying to make it work
[08:03] <karolisl> hello
[08:03] <gnomefreak> when it is stable enough to use in ubuntu they will backport it
[08:03] <lukasink> hoasd: and it doesn't show up in the network settings ?
[08:03] <MarcN> Maniqui: you could download the FF 1.5 binary in tar format and unpack it to ~/firefox and just run ~/firefox/firefox
[08:03] <hoasd> lukasink is there anyway that i can reinstall the network system?
[08:03] <hoasd> no
[08:03] <gnomefreak> gm nalioth
[08:03] <hoasd> it doesn't
[08:04] <nalioth> gnomefreak: howdy
[08:04] <phoenix_atlanti1> Does anybody know how I can determine "limits" (like open file limit) of a running process?
[08:04] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  In most Linux distributions, the idea of updating programs as they come out is left behind; instead, the different programs are tried out and worked together until we're sure they all work, then a new verrsion of the distro is released.
[08:04] <karolisl> how do you install codecs from totem? where to get them?
[08:04] <cdubya> steven_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91715
[08:04] <hoasd> maybe reinstalling the network system will reinstall the card
[08:04] <owner989> faravid run advanced install
[08:04] <Maniqui> thanks. I still trying to understand. I have installed FF 1.5 in linux, with the help of some guys in this nice chat.
[08:04] <owner989> and deselect some packages
[08:04] <lukasink> hoasd: hmm
[08:04] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  this prevents things like updating libpng on a "Stable" system one day and finding that Firefox, Gnome, Gaim, and Gimp all suddenly crash constantly.
[08:04] <karolisl> how do you install codecs from totem? where to get them?
[08:04] <hoasd> did u install the breezy or updated from hoary?
[08:04] <karolisl> *for totem
[08:04] <skora> !codecs
[08:05] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[08:05] <gnomefreak> Maniqui, that is fine we are not telling you cant use it but from experence we tell you its not advised
[08:05] <karolisl> ok
[08:05] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  I have 1.5 installed to my /home directory ;)
[08:05] <lukasink> hoasd: how did you upgrade via apt-get or re-installed from the CD?
[08:05] <adrianoc> Is this normal to have in a syslog? and What does it mean? It seems thatr my syslog is about 1.5mbs
[08:05] <adrianoc>  Jan 13 06:18:06 worm kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xe4 on isa0060/serio0)
[08:05] <skora> i think w32codecs can do it.
[08:05] <hoasd> lukasink via apt-get
[08:05] <gnomefreak> ok fine im not adivsing it
[08:05] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:06] <Faravid> owner989, k, will try if that works, weird thought that it didn't even fit to 3,2gb with server install and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:06] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  how in the fuck do I get a list of upgradable packages
[08:06] <gnomefreak> either way i have heard alot of bad things about it already and its been out for all of what a week?
[08:06] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  they show in synaptic but no way to get a flat list in console
[08:06] <gimmulf> Shouldnt dh-make be in respitorys? or is it dh-make-perl? Please help
[08:06] <Maniqui> aaaah, ok... I find hard to understand this new logic... do you mean that simple installing FF 1.5 in Ubuntu 5.10 could screw up everything? that's a new concept for me
[08:06] <hoasd> ??
[08:06] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  time is a factor, btw, before uptade-manager decides to apt-get update for me
[08:07] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy,  the list of breezy and breezy backports as well as dapper and hoary and warty are at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  current install base on this machine
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  I have dapper's source, upgraded gnome and everything, didn't upgrade anything havingto do with X or Firefox
[08:07] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, it all depends on what packages you think should be upgradable
[08:07] <gimmulf> Shouldnt dh-make be in respitorys? or is it dh-make-perl? Is dh-make-perl an replace for dh-make or?
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  trying to take a snapshot of what's left
[08:07] <skora> bluefoxicy, i know what you mean, crap i forget how to do it.
[08:07] <Maniqui> I mean, trying to do a generalization: if you install simple applications in Ubuntu, they can "interact deeply" in the stability of my system? (excuse my english)
[08:07] <skora> it's some extra option in apt-get
[08:08] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  yeah
[08:08] <skora> or aptitude.
[08:08] <skora> i'd check man, sry can't help.
[08:08] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, you upgraded gnome gnome is a part of X :(
[08:08] <bluefoxicy> gnome is as much a part of X as Firefox is a part of X
[08:09] <lukasink> hoasd: I found the old wiki page for hoary for setting up the rt2500 drivers
[08:09] <lukasink> hoasd: the page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/
[08:09] <bluefoxicy> skora:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/8sjcBh16.html is the closest I can get, it's a hell of a lot more than al ist :(
[08:09] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy,  i think gnome is more of a part gnome needs X to run (most current is always better) like you cant run gnome 2.12 on X from 3 years ago FF will run on any version of X
[08:10] <Maniqui> ok bluefoxicy. So, the general advise in linux is "not to stay up-to-date with the last program releases but to stay with what you have and wait 6 months" ?
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  it depends on how often your distro releases.
[08:10] <skora> foxblueicy - isn't that what you want ? a list of pkg's not updated ?
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> skora:  I want a list of packages
[08:10] <gnomefreak> want most current packages for dapper i would assume its still apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> Xorg-6.999
[08:10] <cdubya> what's the package name for glib on breezy?
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> Firefox-1.4999
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> etc etc
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> not a bunch of output about what apt would do
[08:11] <MenZa`> ubotu: dk is Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[08:11] <ubotu> i already had it that way, MenZa`
[08:11] <MenZa`> ah
[08:11] <MenZa`> goody
[08:11] <MenZa`> :p
[08:11] <hoasd> lukasink i just found out that the upgrade didnt work... well i upgraded throuh the automatic upgrade system i think is from synaptyc and i was cheking in apt-get a dist-upgrade and it didnt instal anything
[08:11] <Tony_Sidaway> As long as your system is stable, who cares if it's twelve months "out of date"?
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> Maniqui:  you'll figure it out after running for a while
[08:11] <Stormx2> Tony_Sidaway: Use a Mac II then ;-)
[08:11] <gnomefreak> Tony_Sidaway,  because its not supported that far yet
[08:11] <hoasd> it has been all day downloading things and instaling them, and apt-get seems or not updated or something wrong
[08:12] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  it can be a factor, especially with graphics apps and word processors et al, where you get things that have new features you need.
[08:12] <lukasink> hoasd, do you have high speed internet?
[08:12] <Maniqui> thanks, bluefoxicy. I will go to the Ubuntu side and play there a while.
[08:12] <Tony_Sidaway> Storm2, as it happens I do have a pre power-mac system around here somewhere.  Why do you ask.
[08:12] <hoasd> lukasink i have broadband
[08:12] <cosimo321> hello guys
[08:12] <gnomefreak> i think its currently 6-8 months after that the next version will need to be installed for support packages but with dapper come aprilish will be suppported for 18 months
[08:12] <skora> hi cosimo321
[08:13] <cosimo321> I just uninstalled kubuntu and reinstalled ubuntu
[08:13] <cosimo321> I have a question
[08:13] <bluefoxicy>  14:13:17 up 84 days,  1:37,  5 users,  load average: 0.40, 0.35, 0.42
[08:13] <cosimo321> in synaptic there is an app fo sorts that allows you to view and download splsh screens, themes etc, and i cannot remember what it is called
[08:13] <lukasink> hoasd: Well, I have always just re-installed fresh for upgrades
[08:13] <cosimo321>  if anyone knows I would appreciate knowing
[08:13] <Tony_Sidaway> bluefoxicy, I cannot agree that word processors need to be kept up to date.  I've got a copy of Word II for Windows, and it contains every single function I need in a word processor.
[08:13] <gnomefreak> cosimo321, gnome-art
[08:14] <owner989> do you like kde or gnome better cosimo
[08:14] <cosimo321> Is that it?
[08:14] <lukasink> hoasd: i've never had to do too many ugly hacks to get ubuntu the way i like it so it was never a big deal
[08:14] <gnomefreak> cosimo321, yes
[08:14] <cosimo321> Let me check
[08:14] <gnomefreak> there maybe more but thats the one i use
[08:14] <svk_frank> actually per your wordprocessor you need to be able to edit uml
[08:14] <hoasd> lukasink ok... i will still try... thanks a lot
[08:14] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  I had abiword up to 2.0, it crashed semi-commonly up to 2.2
[08:14] <lukasink> hoasd: no problem
[08:14] <vladuz976> what command shows me directory sizes?
[08:15] <Tony_Sidaway> bluefoxicy, Abiword sucks hugely.  Don't use unstable applications.
[08:15] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  between 0.6 and 2.0 it crashed if you pasted anything; except in 2.0 it managed to not crash if you pasted things without a newline in them.
[08:15] <cosimo321> Thanks I think you were right I am installing it now I will get back to you if it isn't
[08:15] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  Gnome 2.14 will use much less memory than 2.12
[08:15] <iguana> directories: du -h
[08:15] <owner989> gnome is less bloated than kde
[08:15] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  and ANYTHING would be an improvement over OpenOffice.org's ugly as fuck Writer interface.
[08:15] <owner989> konquerer is too slow to use as an everyday browser
[08:16] <steven_> cdubya, thanks for the thread info regarding the firefox plugins.  I tried that and it worked.
[08:16] <Tony_Sidaway> Well software that doesn't fall over is always better than software that does, so I'd probably stick with my ancient copy of Word II.
[08:16] <trappist> owner989: konqeror is faster for me than firefox
[08:16] <owner989> thats strange trappist
[08:16] <Chousuke> konqueror is quick.
[08:16] <owner989> it ran slowly for me
[08:16] <redguy> for me as well
[08:16] <praseodymium> how do I install irssi on ubuntu?
[08:16] <trappist> sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:17] <gnomefreak> i find links faster even in gaphical form
[08:17] <owner989> firefox is as fast as IE
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> owner989:  agreed.  KDE is a bloatfuck; I had 400M of memory usage for having Gimp, Firefox, Thunderbird, xmms, gaim, and xchat open for 2 weeks straight, only things open when measured; switched to KDE, ran the same apps, after a few days it had eaten my 768M of RAM and moved about 600M into swap.
[08:17] <Chousuke> sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[08:17] <Chousuke> owner989: faster :P
[08:17] <derek> praseodymium, its already installed
[08:17] <Chousuke> or well.
[08:17] <Agrajag> I think irssi is in the bae install
[08:17] <trappist> praseodymium: sorry, irssi-text
[08:17] <trappist> which is stupid
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> brb restarting gnome
[08:17] <owner989> kde has many useless features bluefox
[08:18] <Chousuke> so does GNOME :)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> pssssst owner989  FF is much faster than IE and alot safer/stable even :)
[08:18] <Tony_Sidaway> is fvwm2 still around?  Nice lightweight window manager.
[08:18] <Chousuke> besides, some people consider those KDE features useful
[08:18] <owner989> i used ff in winxp as well
[08:18] <Chousuke> KDE/Gnome battles are pretty stupid.
[08:18] <gnomefreak> Tony_Sidaway, yes its in synaptic
[08:18] <praseodymium> trappist: yeah its dumb
[08:18] <Maniqui> last question: for my windows system, I have a partition for the OS, and some partitions for documents, downloads, music, etc. Should I have something similar for Ubuntu?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> hell even opera is faster than IE
[08:18] <owner989> gnome is the king GUI
[08:19] <Tony_Sidaway> If you have bloat problems (particularly on older hardware) it's always a good idea to ask if you really need Gnome.
[08:19] <praseodymium> gnomefreak: 'even' opera?
[08:19] <Stormx2> One thing which annoys me about gnome is how you can't tell where the current location of the icon for a launcher is located
[08:19] <gnomefreak> yep opera is much faster than a IE
[08:19] <Maniqui> I mean: different partitions: one for the OS (Ubuntu) and one or some for documents
[08:19] <praseodymium> gnomefreak: yeah. but why 'even opera'?
[08:19] <gnomefreak> concidering opera is prolly the heavest browser linux has
[08:19] <aaarg> gnomefreak: opera is reportedly the faster browser
[08:19] <aaarg> *fastest
[08:20] <Chousuke> heaviest?
[08:20] <owner989> you can run IE6 under wine
[08:20] <Chousuke> opera is quite lightweight :/
[08:20] <owner989> it works
[08:20] <derek> People, I plugged in another harddisk. WOuld it have got mounted automatically?
[08:20] <praseodymium> so then "hell even opera is faster than IE" makes no sense
[08:20] <Chousuke> owner989: Why would you wany that?
[08:20] <praseodymium> as opera is the fastest browser
[08:20] <gnomefreak> Chousuke,  yes opera is very heavy compared to FF
[08:20] <Chousuke> gnomefreak: hell no
[08:20] <derek> re xota
[08:20] <owner989> you could have the rare website that is IE only
[08:21] <Chousuke> opera runs much better on machines with less RAM
[08:21] <praseodymium> but there is firefox portable, but no portable opera :)
[08:21] <Stormx2> Not for me
[08:21] <mwe> like my netbank
[08:21] <Stormx2> In windows, IE is fastest
[08:21] <Stormx2> purely because it is built in to windows.
[08:21] <quitte_> hahahaha
[08:21] <Chousuke> Stormx2: fastest because it doesn't even support anything :P
[08:22] <Tony_Sidaway> IE-only websites are *so* 1999.
[08:22] <Stormx2> Chousuke: Yep
[08:22] <gnomefreak> Storm2 FF is faster in windows than IE
[08:22] <owner989> if you enable http pipelining in firefox it is faster than IE
[08:22] <mwe> um not for me. It loads faster because parts are preloaded, but once it's running FF is quite a bit faster than IE for me
[08:22] <aaarg> its fastest to load and get virii/spyware, not to render sites
[08:22] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: Not on my system
[08:22] <Stormx2> gnomefreak; FF is bloaty on my system
[08:22] <gnomefreak> Stormx2,  hack FF to run faster than
[08:22] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: Wouldn't know how
[08:22] <gnomefreak> you have to change 5 lines i think and poof FF speeds up
[08:23] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: On windows I use K-Meleon. Fastest of em all
[08:23] <trappist> my ff is slow because I have a zillion plugins.  features slow things down.  if you want fast, go lynx.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> i never heard of that
[08:23] <trappist> s/plugins/extensions/
[08:23] <gnomefreak> links2 for me:)
[08:23] <janek> has any1 been able to install ATI drivers on ubuntu
[08:23] <derek> I plugged in another harddisk. Would it have got mounted automatically?
[08:23] <trappist> k-meleon is cool
[08:23] <owner989> lynx is text only trappist
[08:23] <owner989> lol
[08:23] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: its gecko/mozilla based, 100% customizable (it runs of text files) and lightening quick
[08:23] <skora> !ati
[08:23] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:23] <trappist> owner989: yep.
[08:23] <Wammy> derek no
[08:23] <mwe> janek: yes
[08:23] <Tony_Sidaway> lynx is pretty good except for form entry.
[08:23] <derek> Wammy, ok. How do I access it then please?
[08:23] <Wammy> derek, check the Disk programs under System
[08:23] <Maniqui> sorry for insist: is it recommended to have different partitions (one for Ubuntu OS and one for "linux" documents, audio, volatile stuff)? I do that for my MS Windows system: one partition for the OS and various partitions for docs, audio, downlaods, etc.
[08:24] <phr3x> Hi, does anyone know the url for the breezy backport repositories?
[08:24] <Wammy> or System Management
[08:24] <Stormx2> Maniqui: yes
[08:24] <Wammy> there is one that is called Disks
[08:24] <owner989> maniqui thats your choice
[08:24] <Wammy> shows you all the disks you have
[08:24] <tyler> questoin: whats the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[08:24] <Stormx2> Maniqui: I have a windows partition, a linux partition, and a "Media" partition
[08:24] <Wammy> it should let you create partitions there
[08:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phr3x  about sources
[08:24] <janek> i've dl the drive from ati site, it sys to type ./atidriver.run but I get error no such file or directory
[08:24] <derek> Wammy, "Removable Drives & Media"?
[08:24] <trappist> Maniqui: I just keep one separate partition for 'data' so I don't have to worry about it when reinstalling
[08:24] <Wammy> nope
[08:24] <Wammy> try on the other menu
[08:24] <skora> tyler, there's azureus, bittorrent itself,
[08:24] <phr3x> ## Backports
[08:24] <phr3x> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[08:24] <phr3x> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted ( i tried using those and replacing hoary with breezy, but it didn't work )
[08:24] <owner989> it depends on how big your harddrive is
[08:24] <Maniqui> Stormx2, wich filesystem use your Media partition?
[08:24] <Tony_Sidaway> Maniqui, on a small system I run everything in one partition, with one extra swap partition.
[08:24] <tyler> skora, can i get that through SPM, or do i need to DL
[08:24] <derek> Wammy, k
[08:24] <mwe> Maniqui: some people like loads of partitions. personally I have just one large one
[08:25] <gallonegro_> were do i add new fonts
[08:25] <gnomefreak> phr3x,  please dont paste and read the pm you got from ubotu
[08:25] <Stormx2> Maniqui: FAT32 (XFAT)
[08:25] <spacey> phr3x, ubotu is wrong
[08:25] <spacey> too bad
[08:25] <Stormx2> Maniqui: i really recommend using FAT for sharing
[08:25] <spacey> phr3x, just search on the wiki
[08:25] <derek> Wammy, there's this option "Computer" under Places
[08:25] <gnomefreak> phr3x, mirrormax backports dont work and havent for a while
[08:25] <Stormx2> spacey: ubotu is never wrong.
[08:25] <Wammy> no, go to another meny
[08:25] <spacey> Stormx2, mirrormax is bad
[08:25] <Wammy> menu*
[08:25] <Wammy> after that
[08:25] <bluefoxicy> oh sweet.
[08:25] <spacey> and offline
[08:25] <owner989> fat32 makes a good partition to share between ubuntu and windows
[08:25] <phr3x> okay, thanks dude :)
[08:25] <bluefoxicy> Fregging sweet
[08:25] <derek> Wammy, System doesn't have "Disks"
[08:25] <gallonegro_> were do i add new fonts?
[08:25] <tyler> Does anyone know if I can get Azereus through SPM?
[08:25] <bluefoxicy> so much less memory used @.@
[08:26] <Wammy> hrm.
[08:26] <Wammy> i cant remeber the menu name
[08:26] <Wammy> one sec.
[08:26] <Stormx2> bluefoxicy: Hmm?
[08:26] <mwe> if you need to store files larger than 4GB fat32 can't handle it
[08:26] <Maniqui> ok, I jsut wanted to know if in Ubuntu/Linux, it applies the same logic of have the OS in one place and the volatile information in other... Because, for sure, I bet I will reinstall Ubuntu more than once
[08:26] <derek> Wammy, System>Administration has 'Device Manager'
[08:26] <gnomefreak> ext3 rules :)
[08:26] <Wammy> try that
[08:26] <Wammy> my install has an extra one there that is Disks
[08:26] <owner989> gnome is ext3 better than reiserfs
[08:27] <tyler> Is KDE just another GUI, similar to GNOME?
[08:27] <derek> Wammy, i'm running hoary
[08:27] <Wammy> ah
[08:27] <Wammy> ok
[08:27] <Wammy> yeah
[08:27] <Wammy> try that
[08:27] <bluefoxicy> owner989:  xfs I like.
[08:27] <gnomefreak> tyler, i think it is but you can search it in there
[08:27] <Wammy> should give you a list of hard disks
[08:27] <Tony_Sidaway> If you need contiguous files bigger than 4GB, I give up.  The End of the World is Nigh. :)
[08:27] <Wammy> find out what /dev it is
[08:27] <trappist> tyler: yes
[08:27] <bluefoxicy> tyler:  yeah.  It uses a lot more memory XP
[08:27] <tyler> gnomefreak, i didn't see it.  I'll just DL from the site.
[08:27] <gnomefreak> owner989,  my opion yes from what i hear its alot better
[08:27] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  DVD images, 4.9M
[08:27] <Stormx2> How do I find out what icon a certain launcher is using (gnome)
[08:27] <Wammy> then you can make an ext3 (or your choice of filesystem) on that /dev/
[08:27] <Wammy> then mount /dev/... /Dir
[08:27] <Stormx2> Tony_Sidaway: Try liking anime >.>
[08:27] <gnomefreak> tyler, gbittorrent is good
[08:27] <tyler> bluefoxicy, why are KDE files offered in SPM if I run GNOME? Does it just not try to see what I have?
[08:27] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway: 4.9G sorry. Dual-layer uDF images would be 8.4 (9.8 if it was a full size dl)
[08:28] <tyler> gnomefreak, thanks :)
[08:28] <Tony_Sidaway> tyler, Gnome was started as a free alternative to KDE, which at that time was under a non-free license.
[08:28] <MrKennie> I'm having trouble with dibusb locating firmware. Where does ubuntu expect dvb firmware to live?
[08:28] <tyler> Tony_Sidaway, ohh
[08:28] <bluefoxicy> tyler:  what is spm?
[08:28] <derek> Wammy, ... it just shows that there's a slave drive connected and its physical properties
[08:28] <tyler> bluefoxicy, Synaptic Package Manager
[08:28] <Wammy> hmm
[08:28] <Wammy> im not sure how else to find it
[08:28] <derek> Wammy, do you know the cli way?
[08:28] <Tony_Sidaway> tyler, both are good.  Each has its fans.
[08:28] <Wammy> no :/ didnt try
[08:28] <Maniqui> the final question: can I access to the data in my NTFS partitions? More than 5 GB of mp3s that I would like to enjoy while learning Ubuntu
[08:28] <tyler> gnomefreak, I didn't see that in package manager, should it be there?
[08:28] <bluefoxicy> tyler:  oh, they're offered because they're there.  You can install KDE from synaptic if you want; there isn't a separate kde/gnome ubuntu package database, though there should be.
[08:28] <derek> k
[08:28] <trappist> tyler: you can install kde packages all day long, and even run them.  it's not going to hide them from you just because you use gnome.
[08:28] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway: KDE is an impediment to progress.
[08:28] <owner989> you can read but not write to NTFS partititons maniqui
[08:29] <tyler> bluefoxicy, oh okay i get it
[08:29] <Maniqui> I know I can mount NTFS partitions. But right now, all my NTFS are "locked"
[08:29] <Tony_Sidaway> Whatever
[08:29] <derek> Please can someone tell me how to use a slave drive I plugged in?
[08:29] <MrKennie> or more to the point. Where does it expect any firmware?
[08:29] <trappist> Maniqui: linux lacks ntfs write support
[08:29] <gnomefreak> gbittorrent is there just cant remember the name they use for it click on search and type in bittorrent and you should get all that are avilable
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  It uses the Qt toolkit, which interacts differently with the user than the more commonly used GTK+; in a mixed environment you have twice as much crap loaded in memory.
[08:29] <owner989> there is captive ntfs
[08:29] <Stormchaser> owner989: not quite... That was  case in early 2.4 kernels
[08:29] <owner989> but its not safe
[08:29] <gallonegro_> were do i add new fonts?
[08:29] <Maniqui> ok, Dont want to write, just want to read.
[08:29] <owner989> from what i hear
[08:29] <gnomefreak> atleast the ones your sources allow you to have
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway: Not to mention file and print dialogs that look vastly different and confuse the lower end of non-technical users.
[08:29] <owner989> reading is fine maniqui
[08:29] <ufk> hiya. when i try to run kde or gnome my computer freeze, fluxbox, afterstep, xfce4, enlightenment, everything else works just fine. any ideas why?
[08:29] <Maniqui> Thansk everyone in this chat, you are very helpful
[08:30] <trappist> Maniqui: oh, then you just need to mount with the 'uid=1000' option or 'umask=000'
[08:30] <owner989> maniqui hows that there's a slave drive connected and its physical properties
[08:30] <owner989> * jsteidl has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[08:30] <owner989> tyler bluefoxicy, Synaptic Pa
[08:30] <owner989> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[08:30] <Maniqui> I have a command line written in a paper that says: "unmask=0222"
[08:30] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[08:30] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[08:30] <aru> I would like to know why I cannot update, every time I click install on the update program a progress box opens then closes but never installs anything
[08:30] <bluefoxicy> Tony_Sidaway:  KDE would be fine if it was written in gtk+ or gtkmm or whatever, the same shit everything else is written in.
[08:30] <mwe> Maniqui: umask
[08:30] <Maniqui> umask! that was the problem...
[08:31] <tyler> gnomefreak, were you thinking of qtorrent?
[08:31] <owner989> gnome is written in a faster programming language
[08:31] <gnomefreak> tyler hold on a min il look
[08:31] <bluefoxicy> owner989:  True that, though I have better arguments than C/C++ jabberwocky  :)
[08:31] <hoasd> does someone what package install the wireless of breezy?
[08:32] <hoasd> i have a wireless card i want to use but i need breezy dependencys
[08:32] <Maniqui> wow! ubotu gives that answer whenever you write something with "ubuntuguide"?
[08:32] <hoasd> ?
[08:32] <Stormx2> Back, thunderstorms keep cutting my internet
[08:32] <Stormchaser> NOT MY FAULT!
[08:33] <tyler> Hey random question: Whats the theme website where you can cahnge the style of the top and bottom bar?
[08:33] <caturOK> hello
[08:33] <gnomefreak> tyler its called gnome-btdownload
[08:33] <tyler> gnomefreak, ok, thanks again :)
[08:33] <tyler> gnomefreak, how could you tell?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> tyler yw
[08:33] <gnomefreak> cause i have it :)
[08:33] <caturOK> whereis ld.so.conf at ubuntu 5.10 version
[08:34] <mwe> caturOK: /etc
[08:34] <Stormx2> tyler: gnome-look.org?
[08:34] <caturOK> no
[08:34] <gnomefreak> tyler also if you click on it it will give you description
[08:34] <caturOK> i don't
[08:34] <caturOK> at hoary
[08:34] <gnomefreak> art.gnome.org
[08:34] <caturOK> have ld.so.conf
[08:34] <tyler> Stormx2, yeah :)
[08:34] <aDre|ita> hello :)
[08:34] <mwe> caturOK: just make one if you need it
[08:34] <tyler> gnomefreak, like how it is already installed, haha.
[08:34] <tyler> gnomefreak, apparently it comes with breezy
[08:34] <jcaine> Hey all - anyone have problems with Totem movie player stopping DVD playback with "Audio device in use?" error message?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> both sites are good but only one comes with  not having to go to site
[08:34] <caturOK> brezy it confused me
[08:35] <caturOK> i like hoary
[08:35] <tyler> gnomefreak, is breezy just the version of Ubuntu?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> tyler yes it did if you click on applications and internet it says bittorrent
[08:35] <gnomefreak> tyler yes its a code name for version 5.10
[08:36] <tyler> gnomefreak, which version is hoary
[08:36] <mwe> 5.4
[08:36] <iguana> for DVD the best is "xine"
[08:36] <gnomefreak> 5.04
[08:36] <caturOK> better 5.04
[08:36] <tyler> hehe
[08:36] <caturOK> i have try 5.10
[08:36] <mwe> tyler: it the year and month of the release
[08:36] <tyler> mwe, oh, cool
[08:37] <caturOK> so conflic
[08:37] <tyler> mwe, how can i tell which version i'm running real fast
[08:37] <caturOK> not stabil i thing
[08:37] <penguinitus> hello all...I getting an error trying to apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx (5 lines, ok to post here?)
[08:37] <mwe> heh
[08:37] <gnomefreak> 5.10 is ver stable
[08:37] <gnomefreak> very*
[08:37] <owner989> dapper is debian sid right
[08:37] <mwe> penguinitus: don't paste in the channel
[08:37] <gnomefreak> Penguinitus use pastebin
[08:38] <penguinitus> sure
[08:38] <tyler> oo whats GTK+? applying to themes
[08:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell penguinitus about paste
[08:38] <botein> hi
[08:38] <gnomefreak> tyler i dont remember what it stands for sorry
[08:39] <penguinitus> ok, posted in pastebin
[08:39] <tyler> gnomefreak, what is it though
[08:39] <gnomefreak> penguinitus,  you have to give us the link after you paste and send it
[08:39] <gnomefreak> tyler not sure if i remembered what it stood for i could tell you
[08:39] <korhalf> owner989: It worked man
[08:39] <iguana> when is going to be available the new version of Ubuntu? Has it name?
[08:39] <korhalf> owner989: i was jus tplaying wolf et no problem
[08:39] <penguinitus> oh...I'm an idiot
[08:40] <Juhaz> tyler, huh?
[08:40] <eternalist> iguana: it will be called Drapper Drake or something like that, coming out sometime in april.
[08:40] <owner989> korhalf did you try easy ubuntu
[08:40] <gnomefreak> iguana, dapper is the ubuntu thats in development
[08:40] <zcat[1] > dapper will be the next version (6.04) ?
[08:40] <eternalist> owner989: yeah and it worked man
[08:40] <gnomefreak> yes zcat[1] 
[08:40] <mwe> iguana: 6.04, dapper 2006, april
[08:40] <owner989> cool eternalist :D
[08:40] <gnomefreak> dapper drake :)
[08:40] <eternalist> owner989: thanks, plus i got realplayer working which i wanted to do anyway with 0 effort lol
[08:40] <tyler> Juhaz, i'm on gnome-look.org and theres a section called GTK 1+ and 2+, I was wondering what it was
[08:40] <penguinitus> I posted in #pastebin (correct? it didn't give me a link)
[08:40] <owner989> yea it also installs all the codecs
[08:41] <eternalist> i know, its perfect
[08:41] <eternalist> and it makes ubuntu start with num lock enabled
[08:41] <eternalist> i dont know why, but that always bothered me and i kept turning it on myself lol
[08:41] <owner989> lol
[08:41] <ufk> are there any ubuntu packages for gmplayer?
[08:42] <mwe> penguinitus: no paste at the url suggested by !pastebin
[08:42] <mwe> !pastebin
[08:42] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:42] <djk_> ufk: yes.
[08:42] <penguinitus> ok here it is, it's been so long; forgive me ;) - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5307
[08:42] <gnomefreak> eternalist, i set it to come on on boot up because i cant stand having to type a long bunch of numbers and say oh hell that damn cap locks
[08:42] <ufk> djk_: where?
[08:42] <owner989> easy ubuntu installs mplayer as well
[08:42] <owner989> thats a pain to install for many too
[08:42] <eternalist> yea, i got mplayer working fine tho
[08:43] <eternalist> its just some of the new wmv codecs dont play properly
[08:43] <ufk> i still don't understand how to install it
[08:43] <botein> Is somebody here how know how to preseed?
[08:43] <eternalist> Quake 4 torrent almost done :)
[08:43] <eternalist> i wanna see how the demo plays
[08:43] <tyler> im in love with q4
[08:43] <ufk> is there any nice gui for apt-cache search? :)
[08:43] <eternalist> ufk: yes, synaptic package manager
[08:43] <Juhaz> tyler, more or less everything, the buttons, menus and other widgets that make up apps.
[08:43] <Sammi> ok, can anyone point me to a tutorial on adding a dvdrw drive after the initial install (been running for 6mo)?
[08:44] <tyler> Juhaz, ok, thanks
[08:44] <gallonegro_> were do i add new fonts?
[08:44] <djk_> ufk: some repo.. i don't use them anymore so i can't tell you which one i saw it in.
[08:44] <mwe> penguinitus: it seems the two pacages are conflicting, you can only have one, since they both provide fglrx
[08:44] <zcat[1] > Sammi: plug it in. Be amazed. Stuff like that usually just works.
[08:45] <Sammi> zcat[1] , Yeah, that's usually how it works.. but not this time
[08:45] <zcat[1] > bugger :(
[08:45] <owner989> penguinitus you should try easy ubuntu to install the fglrx driver
[08:45] <Sammi> ya :(
[08:45] <PokerFacePenguin> Sammi, it got mount points?
[08:45] <penguinitus> mwe: I kinda thought that, but I have no idea which package is conflicting with it, I had something else installed like flgx-driver or something which I removed with apt get, but still getting the error
[08:45] <ufk> syanptic is nice :) thanks
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> [ 5247.225804]  NTFS-fs error (device sde1): ntfs_end_buffer_async_read(): Buffer I/O error, logical block 0xa46a53.
[08:45] <tyler> Juhaz, whats the difference between v2 and v1?
[08:45] <korhalf> ufk, no problem
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> is it a hardware error or software?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> i really wish they wouldnt put easy infront of linux cause for a newbie nothing about linux is easy at first
[08:45] <Sammi> PokerFacePenguin, i dont know.. you mean fstab? or something else?
[08:45] <mwe> penguinitus: it says which in the error
[08:45] <eternalist> gnomefreak, true, but it SHOULD be
[08:46] <eternalist> gnomefreak, you can't expect people to try something that'll be hard lol
[08:46] <nox-Hand> Oh no.. Firefox shut down, but the sound I was streaming in my 'mplayer mozilla plugin' is still running.. Got any idea how to make it stop?
[08:46] <nox-Hand> Been running for about 5 min..
[08:46] <gnomefreak> eternalist, your right it should be but than it would be called mircocrap :(
[08:46] <eternalist> nox-Hand, kill the mofo
[08:46] <gallonegro_> non one knows how to add new fonts?
[08:46] <[koji] > is it ok to use /home partition of another distro?
[08:46] <nox-Hand> How?
[08:46] <eternalist> gnomefreak, it doesn't need to be difficult to be good.
[08:46] <arnducky> I'm having trouble copying the contents of my /dev/sda (a 1 GB extreme compact flash card) to a hard drive.  Is there a way to force this with dd or something?  Gparted seems to stall at at '0m 1s left', and AFAIK, it uses dd.  I want a bit-for-bit copy of the original.
[08:46] <Sammi> nox-Hand, open the process manager, and kill mplayer
[08:46] <zcat[1] > was quite surprised when I got my mp3 player; plugged it in, got halfway through opening a terminal so I could start digging through dmesg and figuring out what I might need to modprobe.. and hell, it was sitting on the desktop already!
[08:46] <penguinitus> mwe: well, when i try to uninstall it, it says it's not installed
[08:46] <PokerFacePenguin> Sammi, yeah, if it doesnt have a mount point, its not gonna work..../etc/fstab might have to be edited...mountpoints are listed in /media
[08:46] <mwe> penguinitus: you have fglrx-driver and are trying to install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:47] <gnomefreak> eternalist, no it doesnt i agree and linux isnt really all that hard its just at first glace its like OMG what am i doing :(
[08:47] <nox-Hand> Uhhm, where is the process manager.. ('noob at some of this linux stuff' at work)
[08:47] <zcat[1] > but it doesn't _always_ work like that..
[08:47] <eternalist> penguinitus, i recommend using Easy Ubuntu, i just tried it, and my drivers work fine for my ati card
[08:47] <owner989> linux has improved over the years
[08:47] <penguinitus> mwe: well supposedly, but like I said I removed it via apt-get remove
[08:47] <Juhaz> tyler, gtk 1.x is very old and not used by many apps any more, xmms probably being the most common
[08:47] <owner989> now the network setup is a breeze
[08:47] <tyler> Juhaz, oh ok
[08:47] <eternalist> gnomefreak, yea, and you try to teach people some shell commands, heck, they think DOS is complex, imagine the linux CLI
[08:47] <mwe> penguinitus: but the diversion is still there
[08:47] <Sammi> PokerFacePenguin, I have cdrom (link) and cdrom0, which points to my existing one.. I'm thinking I need to duplicate everything, which is why I was hopeing for a tutorial
[08:47] <gnomefreak> eternalist, lol
[08:47] <penguinitus> mwe: maybe I need to dpkg purge to remove all configuration files (completely remove?)
[08:48] <eternalist> gnomefreak, im serious, at my school, i type netstat in a dos prompt and people think im hacking
[08:48] <tyler> Juhaz, would this be hard to install? The DL button doesn't even work, haha http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128
[08:48] <penguinitus> mwe: ? but I can't remember the command (if that indeed is what I need to do)
[08:48] <nox-Hand> Sammi: Uhhm, where is the process manager.. ('noob at some of this linux stuff' at work)
[08:48] <Sammi> eternalist, you are, just not being malicious ;)
[08:48] <zcat[1] > right now I have totally screwed up glx though.. nothing works (glxgears, mplayer, xmms all segfault) bloody annoying
[08:48] <gnomefreak> eternalist,  they dont know any better lol
[08:48] <mwe> penguinitus: try sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2
[08:48] <eternalist> Sammi, lol :)
[08:48] <penguinitus> mwe: but not to keep going with, I can give easy ubuntu a shot as you suggested
[08:48] <Sammi> nox-Hand, menu > system tools > process manager (I think)
[08:49] <penguinitus> mwe: point me to the link?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> eternalist, it took me 2 years to teach g/f about ipconfig in DOS now im gonna have to teach her ifconfig :(
[08:49] <eternalist> gnomefreak, hahaha
[08:49] <nox-Hand> Sammi: System monitor. Cheers.. Pointed me the right direction. Could not remember where it was..
[08:49] <zcat[1] > ifconfig? what's wrong with dhcp?
[08:49] <necroforest> does Ubuntu have a default root password? I can't get in root, don't remember setting a root password during install, and tryed all of my normal passwords.
[08:49] <mwe> penguinitus: what. you must be confusing me with someone else. I didn't suggest that
[08:49] <eternalist> gnomefreak, i think windows has winipcfg for a graphical version, which is probably easier to teach
[08:49] <caturOK> how to my samba no answer password
[08:49] <Sammi> nox-Hand, yay!
[08:49] <eternalist> caturOK, pardon?
[08:49] <owner989> penguinitus http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/10/27/65-easy-ubuntu-24-beta
[08:50] <gnomefreak> eternalist,  never knew that
[08:50] <penguinitus> mwe: oh, my bad, using another chat client - a little harder to read
[08:50] <PokerFacePenguin> gnomefreak, write a script, stick it on the taskbar/panel and let her click it.. :P
[08:50] <Sammi> eternalist, that's win9x only
[08:50] <caturOK> i want my sharing folder not show a password
[08:50] <eternalist> Sammi, oh i see
[08:50] <zcat[1] > necroforest: use sudo, and it prompts for your user password..
[08:50] <eternalist> gnomefreak, lol nvm, Sammi corrected me
[08:50] <nox-Hand> Sammi: Ahhh. The sweet sound of silence.. ;-) Someone mentioned something called 'Easy Ubuntu' Does that have a site?
[08:50] <owner989> penguinitus it was me that suggested easy ubuntu
[08:50] <arnducky> my calculations show that the file transfer should take only  11m 10s  aprox but it goes on and on and on and on....
[08:50] <Sammi> gnomefreak, XP has a better tool anyways :)
[08:50] <penguinitus> thanks for the help, I have a couple things to try now
[08:50] <Roman27> I have a question about writing a wiki doc and everyone is just idling in #ubuntu-doc.  Can someone help me in here?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> PokerFacePenguin,  i sent her the source code for hello world and she about flipped she couldnt read it in C
[08:50] <eternalist> What the hell? the demo is 339 of 321
[08:50] <eternalist> should i just kill it?
[08:51] <arnducky> Is there a way to force-copy this partition?
[08:51] <gnomefreak> Sammi, ipconfig is same as ifconfig only one for dos other for unix
[08:51] <necroforest> does Ubuntu have a default root password? I can't get in root, don't remember setting a root password during install, and tryed all of my normal passwords.
[08:51] <PokerFacePenguin> gnomefreak, then a bash script that renews her ip or whatever should b no prob
[08:51] <owner989> necroforest, ubuntu only uses sudo
[08:51] <owner989> and the password is your user password
[08:51] <bimberi> !root
[08:51] <ubotu> I heard root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:51] <Sammi> gnomefreak, yeah, that I know, but i mean win9x had winipcfg, which is better than ipconfig, but winxp has the repair button, which is far easier than both (for windows)
[08:52] <gnomefreak> necroforest, your user password is the "root" password and ubuntu doesnt really have a root
[08:52] <mwe> ubotu: tell necroforest about root
[08:52] <arnducky> The cancel button doesn't even stop the transfer -- I think it's a *#%$ing gparted bug and nothing is actually happening
[08:52] <caturOK> hm
[08:52] <caturOK> if i use smb:///
[08:52] <caturOK> the pop up is show it
[08:52] <SteveW> mwe, my hd is raid, do i need to do something special during partitioning?
[08:52] <necroforest> ok thanks
[08:52] <caturOK> authentication required
[08:52] <arnducky> Okay, how about this QUESTION: has anyone else had problems with gparted?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Sammi,  im glad i havent had to deal with windows xp in about a year thank god
[08:52] <necroforest> i was trying su
[08:52] <dr34mc0d3r> how (command line) do i set the time and date - i didnt set it correctly on install?
[08:53] <mwe> necroforest: if you really want a root prompt you can use sudo -i or set a root password with sudo passwd root
[08:53] <eternalist> anyone else have a problem with the bittorrent download of Q4? it jus tkeeps going, its passed the limit, its at like 110% right now
[08:53] <necroforest> thanks
[08:53] <caturOK> how to disable that
[08:53] <Sammi> gnomefreak, lol, yeah - always a breath of releif when you are done with it
[08:53] <alex1> hello all, question: i wanted to configure and the output was :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables,
[08:53] <alex1> what should i do?
[08:53] <Juhaz> tyler, I don't think that one is even real, just concept art
[08:53] <arnducky> Could it be because I am trying to copy the flash card onto the same drive / is mounted on?
[08:53] <eternalist> Sammi, gnomefreak, What's wrong with Windows XP ? :)
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Sammi, it is but i might have to install windows over libranet for the java classes :(
[08:53] <Sammi> eternalist, kill the client, and reload the torrent, pointing it at the data you already have; it'll repair and continue
[08:53] <Obi-1> ubotu : not true.. i got to enable the root graphical loggin
[08:53] <ubotu> No idea, Obi-1
[08:54] <tyler> Juhaz, yeah, me too
[08:54] <eternalist> Sammi, i did that already, i think its corrupt.
[08:54] <tyler> Juhaz, whats metacity?
[08:54] <Sammi> eternalist, hrm.. that shouldn't matter...
[08:54] <caturOK> any idea
[08:54] <mwe> SteveW: the array has a seperate device file, doesn't it. I don't use raid, but I don't think you have to do anything special, but you should ask someone else to be sure
[08:54] <caturOK> hello
[08:54] <gnomefreak> eternalist, its slow its full of securtiy flaws the whole system is read by M$ for the most part whenever they decide to look
[08:55] <gnomefreak> everything you do on windows is sent to m$ office :(
[08:55] <eternalist> gnomefreak, i didnt know about the latter part.
[08:55] <alex1> hello all, question: i wanted to configure and the output was :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables,
[08:55] <alex1> what should i do?
[08:55] <SteveW> noob! my hd is raid, do I need to do something special during setup?
[08:55] <eternalist> Sammi, well it wont continue with the installation, it verifies integrity and tells me the sums are diff
[08:55] <Obi-1> ubotu first: sudo passwd root .. change password for root
[08:55] <ubotu> Obi-1: I give up, what is it?
[08:55] <owner989> whats better openoffice or koffice
[08:55] <eternalist> owner989, whichever one allows you to do your work faster.
[08:55] <caturOK> i run this at nautilus ---> smb:///
[08:55] <mwe> owner989: oo has more features
[08:55] <Obi-1> ubotu second: change the gdm.conf file
[08:55] <ubotu> Obi-1: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:55] <caturOK> and why samba always ask password
[08:56] <owner989> we cant use koffice in gnome anyway
[08:56] <Sammi> eternalist, but, I mean: toss the torrent client at it again, it should repair anything, unless the origional is corrupt
[08:56] <gnomefreak> owner i perfer openoffice but i think ive only used koffice 1 time and didnt see much difference
[08:56] <Obi-1> ubotu
[08:56] <caturOK> and i give my correct password
[08:56] <Juhaz> tyler, the gnome window manager, in theme sense, metacity theme affects the title bar and window borders
[08:56] <mwe> owner989: of course you can use koffice in gnome
[08:56] <caturOK> but always fail
[08:56] <eternalist> Sammi, yeah, im telling you, i kill it, let it review the file and go back to its place, then it starts downloading more than what it is lol
[08:56] <necroforest> openoffice is nice
[08:56] <caturOK> why that is happen
[08:56] <owner989> we can but its a kde app
[08:56] <necroforest> much better than its predessecor, staroffice
[08:56] <Obi-1> ubotu enable root login
[08:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Obi-1
[08:56] <gnomefreak> k-office in gnome you still have to install kdebase
[08:56] <tyler> Juhaz, okay cool.  Which would I get that can change the top and bottom bars? (Apps/places/system etc)
[08:56] <eternalist> Sammi, it says time remaining 3 seconds, then it gets to 0, then goes back to 3 seconds
[08:56] <SteveW> mwe, do you know anyone i can awk?
[08:56] <mwe> so what if you have the ram to load the kdelibs as well it will work
[08:56] <MFen> exit
[08:57] <Obi-1> ubotu i love this cra[p
[08:57] <ubotu> I don't know, Obi-1
[08:57] <mwe> SteveW: not really, sorry
[08:57] <alex1> hello all, question: i wanted to configure and the output was :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables,
[08:57] <alex1> what should i do? help me plz
[08:57] <caturOK> samba say username , domain, password
[08:57] <trappist> Obi-1: use /msg to talk to ubotu
[08:57] <gnomefreak> lol @ talk to
[08:57] <Juhaz> tyler, panel appearance is mostly from gtk theme
[08:57] <trappist> alex1: echo $CFLAGS $CC
[08:57] <Sammi> eternalist, hrm.. at that point, I would either go to a different client, or redo the whole thing :(
[08:57] <Obi-1> why is that?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Obi-1  about you
[08:58] <dr34mc0d3r> how can i set the time from the command line ??
[08:58] <Polibio> Hello
[08:58] <mwe> dr34mc0d3r: date
[08:58] <dr34mc0d3r> hello Polibio
[08:58] <Juhaz> tyler, and the main menu icons from icon theme
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Obi-1,  /msg the bot doesnt affect the whole room
[08:58] <alex1> trappist: didnt solve
[08:58] <dr34mc0d3r> mwe - i tried date - i just dont know the format its wanting - can you give me an example ?
[08:58] <trappist> alex1: it wasn't supposed to.  I wanted the output.
[08:59] <Obi-1> hahahaha.. gnomefreak.. i didn't know
[08:59] <SteveW> ANYONE - know how to install RAID?
[08:59] <Obi-1> sorry
[08:59] <Mangoon> hi guys need help
[08:59] <alex1> trappist: there is no output
[08:59] <gnomefreak> formatting time would be 10:30 or 22:30
[08:59] <trappist> alex1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:59] <dr34mc0d3r> humm - could it be that simple - ill try...
[08:59] <bur[n] er> can anyone help me out... Samba got all messed up and only shares my home directory for some reason... have any recent updates broken this?  I swear I haven't edited smb.conf by hand
[08:59] <gnomefreak> Obi-1,  its all goo i had bot send you a pm should give you anything you need for him
[08:59] <Mangoon> i have just installed Ubuntu but when i startup everything works fine accept at starting hotplugsubsystem it stops loading
[09:00] <mwe> dr34mc0d3r: I always forget it. it sucks. google is my best advice unless you want to try your luck with the crappy man page
[09:00] <gimmulf> Hi, i get this error when starting Synaptic: cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs   Please help
[09:00] <tyler> question: Is there any way to make icons smaller without changing my res?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, take the cdrom repo out of your sources list
[09:00] <Polibio> I have mounted an NTFS partition so I can read it with root privileges.  I can read a "readme.txt" file from the partition but I can not copy it in the Ubuntu partition, why? can I copy it in some way?
[09:01] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  ok
[09:01] <mcphail> If anyone else has been having /dev/dsp issues with skype, I've found a workaround...
[09:01] <dr34mc0d3r> thanks mwe
[09:01] <dr34mc0d3r> ill google
[09:01] <soundray> Mangoon, could be a rogue USB device. Disconnect everything that non-essential, then try again.
[09:01] <alex1> trappist: i wrote /.configure and it gave me a huge output/
[09:01] <trappist> alex1: good
[09:01] <soundray> *that is non-essential
[09:01] <alex1> *long
[09:01] <gnomefreak> lol @ good
[09:01] <Mangoon> oki tnx
[09:01] <eternalist> Dammit, redownloading..
[09:01] <eternalist> theres goes 30 minutes of my life
[09:02] <alex1> trappist:  what should i do now ?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> eternalist, ill trade you your system for mine lol
[09:02] <jack-> eternalist: if you didnt have way too much time, you'd stay away from computers
[09:02] <eternalist> gnomefreak, lol, has nothign to do with my system
[09:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:02] <jack-> but you know what, your nick looks like you actually do
[09:02] <eternalist> ahah
[09:02] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  hmm i run sudo apt-get update but i can only find fluxbox version 0.9.12 there :/
[09:02] <jack-> ;)
[09:02] <Sammi> gnomefreak, trade you yours for mine ;)
[09:03] <Mangoon> I plugged out all my USB devices but still the same problem
[09:03] <eternalist> jack-, i noticed you only pipe up when you have a bash.org type quote prepared ahah
[09:03] <jack-> thanks, thats a compliment i guess
[09:03] <eternalist> it is, it is
[09:03] <jack-> if all my quotes are bash.org-able
[09:03] <jack-> i own, right?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Sammi,  if you can use linux and listen to midi files that are embbeded hell yeah ill trade ya
[09:03] <jack-> ;~
[09:03] <alex1> trappist:  What should i do now ?
[09:03] <eternalist> jack-, speaking of which, im working on a way to measure pwnage
[09:03] <jack-> hard job ;)
[09:03] <soundray> Mangoon, can you boot the rescue kernel?
[09:03] <eternalist> jack-, i'm using the greek letter M
[09:04] <Mangoon> i'll C
[09:04] <eternalist> which looks similar to the english one
[09:04] <Sammi> gnomefreak, I have sound, but 96MB total ram :)
[09:04] <Mangoon> its the first time startup
[09:04] <SteveW> ubotu tell SteveW about raid
[09:04] <eternalist> itll be named after me, just like Watts and Ohms
[09:04] <recon0> does ubuntu use debian 2.1, or 3+?
[09:04] <jack-> lol :)
[09:04] <Sammi> gnomefreak, "use" linux is a realative term ;)
[09:04] <alex1> ubotu tell alex1 about raid
[09:04] <bur[n] er> recon0: sid
[09:04] <caturOK> help me plzzzzz
[09:04] <eternalist> caturOK, what's your native language
[09:04] <mwe> recon0: it doesn't use debian, but is based on sid
[09:04] <eternalist> caturOK, I don't understand half of what you're saying.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Sammi,  i have only 512mb of ram :(
[09:05] <recon0> o
[09:05] <eternalist> gnomefreak, i only have 1024 mb of ram :(
[09:05] <eternalist> gnomefreak, i can only run cs source at 120 FPS
[09:05] <soundray> SteveW, are you after introductory information? There are excellent howtos.
[09:05] <jack-> eternalist: he's australian
[09:05] <NetGrunt> Hi ubuntuers!
[09:05] <eternalist> ahah
[09:05] <jack-> just my 2 cents
[09:05] <eternalist> jack-, is he really?
[09:06] <SteveW> soundray yes pls!
[09:06] <jack-> according to his ip at least
[09:06] <Mangoon> hw_random can't be loaded is the error
[09:06] <eternalist> jack-,
[09:06] <eternalist> caturOK i want my sharing folder not show a password
[09:06] <caturOK> how to disable samba password
[09:06] <soundray> SteveW, sorry, I won't search the web for you :)
[09:06] <bur[n] er> caturOK: security = share
[09:06] <eternalist> jack-, i just figured that they spoke english in australian, and that doesnt make it look like its his native language
[09:06] <Sammi> gnomefreak, eternalist Awww.. I will share my 96 with you
[09:06] <SteveW> soundray, ok, well i'm looking but not finding!
[09:06] <jack-> might well be an adopted aborigine kid, who knows ;)
[09:07] <eternalist> Sammi, ahha
[09:07] <alex1> trappist:  it wants me to install g77 but strangely i cant :-|
[09:07] <jack-> australia is big, civilization isnt that big there yet
[09:07] <SteveW> soundray, just checking out what the bot has to say
[09:07] <trappist> alex1: sudo apt-get update and try again
[09:07] <eternalist> jack-, i think 90 percent of the population lives on the coast
[09:07] <Polibio> I have mounted an NTFS partition so I can read it with root privileges.  I can read, for example, a "readme.txt" file from the partition but I can not copy it into the Ubuntu partition, why? can I copy it in some way?
[09:07] <jack-> true
[09:07] <trappist> eternalist: that's true almost everywhere
[09:07] <jack-> and the rest cant read or write
[09:07] <eternalist> Polibio, what do you mean?
[09:07] <Hoxzer_> Is it normal if "TVoutformat" option in xorg.conf doesn't "effect" no matter what I write into it?
[09:07] <eternalist> trappist, how? in the states, people live in the mainland too
[09:08] <trappist> eternalist: even in the states a huge percentage of the population lives within 50 miles of the coast
[09:08] <eternalist> i didnt know that :P, im canadian anyway lol
[09:08] <Dreamer3> does Ubuntu run on a Mac Mini?
[09:08] <Polibio> eternalist, if I can copy files from the NTFS partition into the Ubuntu Linux partition. How can I do that?
[09:08] <soundray> SteveW, I read the Software-RAID HOWTO ages ago, and decided against RAID for me. URL is http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html
[09:08] <eternalist> everyone in canada lives in the southern part of the country
[09:08] <soundray> Dreamer3, yes.
[09:09] <eternalist> Polibio, just use the cp command, however remember that an NTFS file system to linux is a read only system
[09:09] <eternalist> Polibio, cp file ~
[09:09] <Dreamer3> soundray: can i install and boot it from my external firewire drive?
[09:09] <SteveW> soundray, thanks
[09:09] <alex1> trappist:  i looked at the Synaptic, and i saw threr the g77 but it shows me  "Depends: gcc-3.3 but it is not going to be installe" what now ? :(
[09:09] <eternalist> that would copy the file to your home directory.
[09:09] <caturOK> still showing "authentication required"
[09:09] <Dreamer3> soundray: without touching my OSX system drive?
[09:09] <Sammi> eternalist, I disagree about canadians
[09:09] <eternalist> Sammi, what ?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> Alex, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:09] <caturOK> how to disable that
[09:09] <eternalist> Sammi, if you look at those maps with a dot for every 1000 people or something, it shows the majority of dots in the southern part of the country
[09:09] <soundray> Dreamer3, I've tried that. It's supposed to be possible, but I haven't succeeded.
[09:09] <alex1> i did it already
[09:10] <Polibio> eternalist, I was trying to copy from a "sudo nautilus" window, is that wrong?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> should have everything you need including g77
[09:10] <caturOK> ubuntu 5.04 not show that pop up
[09:10] <Dreamer3> soundray: how far did you get?
[09:10] <soundray> Dreamer3, I blamed it on my flaky Firewire drive.
[09:10] <caturOK> but 5.10 show up
[09:10] <soundray> Dreamer3, I got it installed, but couldn't boot.
[09:10] <Dreamer3> soundray: how is it supposed to wokr? i dont want my OSX drive to be touched
[09:10] <trappist> alex1: sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.3
[09:10] <Sammi> eternalist, well, the southern half is denser, but if you add the rest together, it's about even
[09:10] <eternalist> Polibio, you should just use the commandline
[09:10] <soundray> Dreamer3, have you tried the live CD?
[09:10] <Polibio> ok
[09:10] <calamari> hi
[09:10] <rj120917> hello.  I am trying to boot the ubuntu live cd for the first time and boot hangs.  can anyone help me?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> trappist,  it comes with 3.4 doesnt it :(
[09:11] <Dreamer3> soundray: no, i don't have any CDs yet but the PC onces, and they won't work here of course
[09:11] <eternalist> Sammi, i dont think so
[09:11] <gnomefreak> damn
[09:11] <SteveW> soundray, confusion!! i'm doing a frest install. i have a raid card. do i want software or hardware raid?
[09:11] <KBlacKBoX> hi all*
[09:11] <soundray> Dreamer3, you'll have to live with some limitations. Airport Extreme: unsupported.
[09:11] <eternalist> Sammi, the most populated cities are in the southern part of canada
[09:11] <Dreamer3> soundray: just finding out before i go to the trouble of actquiring a Mac CD
[09:11] <trappist> gnomefreak: depends on what you mean by 'comes with'
[09:11] <caturOK> hm
[09:11] <Sammi> eternalist, I dont live in the southern half, and I my city is large
[09:11] <Dreamer3> soundray: i would not run it as the primary os, i'm just curious how well it works
[09:11] <caturOK> confused
[09:11] <eternalist> Sammi, where you from?
[09:11] <mwe> build-essential installs gcc-4
[09:11] <soundray> Dreamer3, sleep: doesn't work.
[09:11] <Sammi> eternalist, edmonton
[09:12] <Dreamer3> soundray: i mean how far it works
[09:12] <gnomefreak> trappist,  i mean the build-essential package comes with 3.4 and 4.0 i thinkand i forgot to add 3.3 to it :(
[09:12] <soundray> Dreamer3, there's a web page by a guy who put Debian on his. Easy to find in Google.
[09:12] <Dreamer3> soundray: all i have on this mac is OSX, hard to compare it to anything :-)
[09:12] <trappist> gnomefreak: you maintain build-essential?
[09:12] <caturOK> gtg
[09:12] <caturOK> slepp
[09:12] <gnomefreak> trappist,  no but ive installed it enough
[09:12] <Dreamer3> soundray: curious how fast gnome would run, etc
[09:12] <caturOK> zzzzz
[09:12] <alex1> baa... it says that i have it already
[09:12] <eternalist> Sammi, you know thats the southern part of the country.
[09:12] <soundray> Dreamer3, reasonably, judging by the live CD.
[09:12] <owner989> gnome runs fast dreamer
[09:13] <KBlacKBoX> gnomefreak, I have some pblms too with the gcc4*
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Alex,  sudo apt-get install gcc3.3
[09:13] <eternalist> Sammi, http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/travel/dg/maps/b7/750x750_alberta2_m.gif
[09:13] <Dreamer3> so perhaps i should get a live cd?
[09:13] <mwe> gnomefreak: are you sure build-essential installs any other version of gcc than gcc-4.0 ?
[09:13] <Mangoon> if i do the safe startup of ubuntu then it gives the errror; missing kernel or users mode driver hw_random
[09:13] <eternalist> Sammi, according to this map, it appears that Edmonton is located in the southern half of the country :)
[09:13] <alex1> E: Couldn't find package gcc3.3
[09:13] <cion> ehm in need help SOS here
[09:13] <soundray> SteveW, you can do either, if your RAID chipset is supported.
[09:13] <cion> i think i messed up w my kernel
[09:13] <Sammi> eternalist, if you want to take the entire country from the border to the tip of the nwt, and cut it in half vertically, yes, but that's not a fair assesment
[09:13] <soundray> SteveW, I would recommend software RAID, though,
[09:13] <rj120917> can someone help me get the live cd to boot?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> KBlacKBoX, dont we all ;( but some things are compiled with gcc 4.0 and other compilesd with 3.4
[09:13] <SteveW> soundray, mine is called fastrak, i think its supported
[09:13] <rj120917> or point me at resources?
[09:14] <eternalist> Sammi, fine lets say all the provinces
[09:14] <gnomefreak> im pretty sure mwe that it comes with 3.4 and or 4.0
[09:14] <eternalist> Sammi, even still, edmonton is below half way
[09:14] <tyler> Are the nVidia graphic drivers from the Software Manager the same or as good as the drivers on nvidias website?
[09:14] <soundray> SteveW, mainly because it'll still be bootable if your raid controller fails.
[09:14] <alex1> so, can you help me plz ? :)
[09:14] <eternalist> Sammi, of the province alone, we can safely say for a FEW exceptions, the majority of people are still in the southern parts of most provinces
[09:14] <cion> in "cd /usr/src" i ran  sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linuxsources-2.6.12.tar.bz2 and it wont stop unpacking stuff
[09:14] <KBlacKBoX> bezzy bzzzz
[09:14] <KBlacKBoX> busy
[09:14] <Mangoon> if i do the safe startup of ubuntu then it gives the errror; missing kernel or users mode driver hw_random
[09:14] <SteveW> soundray, well i'm sharing with xp, and want to access that part so i think i will need hardware?
[09:14] <soundray> SteveW, if your data is at all valuable, do have a separate non-RAID backup facility.
[09:14] <cion> i wanted to patch kernel
[09:14] <eternalist> Sammi, this is wayyyy off topic anyway lol
[09:14] <cion> help
[09:14] <mwe> gnomefreak: ok. I thougt it installed gcc-4 only
[09:14] <Maniqui> hi again. When trying to mount, I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5308
[09:14] <SteveW> soundray, its not that valuable
[09:15] <gnomefreak> im looking for it now
[09:15] <soundray> SteveW, I can't help with RAID and dual-boot. Never heard of anyone who has tried.
[09:15] <Sammi> eternalist, lol, I know what you are saying and I'll give you that point, and we'll leave it at that
[09:15] <Maniqui> And when trying to access by double-clicking the partition, I get a message that I dont have permissiont
[09:15] <Sammi> gtg
[09:15] <cion> help guys: how do i patch the kernel?
[09:15] <eternalist> Sammi, peace
[09:15] <SteveW> soundray, the bot has good information on my situation, but i don't understand it
[09:15] <Sammi> eternalist, peas
[09:16] <trappist> cion: install source.  apply patch.  rebuild.  install.  reboot.
[09:16] <SteveW> ubotu tell soundray about raid
[09:16] <Mangoon> if i do the safe startup of ubuntu then it gives the errror; missing kernel or users mode driver hw_random
[09:16] <owner989> maniqui you should unmount it and mount it like here http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:16] <sigi> aha
[09:16] <cion> trappist: im new is there some docs to do that ?
[09:16] <mwe> cion: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:16] <cion> patch kernel
[09:16] <Millenniumgroup> anyone installed flightgear from synaptic?
[09:16] <gaandalein> hi! anyone got an idea how to install a canon lide 50 scanner?
[09:17] <Millenniumgroup> I try to run flightgear but it tells me "no such command"
[09:17] <mwe> cion: and you have the kernel source and the patch?
[09:17] <owner989> canon has poor linux driver support gaandalein
[09:17] <cro-smiley> how to disable automatic updates?
[09:17] <Mangoon> if i do the safe startup of ubuntu then it gives the errror; missing kernel or users mode driver hw_random
[09:17] <alex1> 10x for all your help, :-\ i g2g, i will try tomorrow :)
[09:17] <dark_angel> hallo
[09:17] <tyler__> Question: Where is the .themes directory?
[09:17] <dark_angel> i
[09:18] <Mabus06> how do you chown a file?
[09:18] <Millenniumgroup> cro-smiley synaptic - settings
[09:18] <cion> in usr/src i have  linux-patches  linux-source-2.6.12  linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[09:18] <eternalist> tyler__, in your home directory..
[09:18] <Mabus06> I tried sudo chown nick ./foldername
[09:18] <cion> is this right?
[09:18] <mwe> Mabus06: type chown
[09:18] <dark_angel> what
[09:18] <cro-smiley> Millenniumgroup thank you:)
[09:18] <tyler__> eternalist, k thanks
[09:18] <eternalist> Mabus06, better yet, type man chown and learn lol
[09:18] <eternalist> tyler__, np
[09:18] <Maniqui> it seems that all my partitions are mounted in /media/ by default (I cant mount them in /media/windows/ because it says tis "busy").
[09:18] <rj120917> the live cd hangs after the message: ACPI: setting ELCR to 0e20 from 0c20.  I've tried booting with pci=noacpi and that doesn't help.  any ideas?
[09:18] <mwe> Mabus06: that looks right provided the user exists
[09:18] <owner989> maniqui did you even read this
[09:18] <owner989> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:18] <gaandalein> mhh... where do i configure the scanner, in general? i cant find a tool to do this. im not really used to gnome
[09:18] <Mabus06> eternalist, don't tell people to read mans... that's not helpful whatsoever
[09:18] <Mabus06> mwe it does
[09:18] <eternalist> Mabus06, what?
[09:19] <soundray> SteveW, where do you get stuck?
[09:19] <eternalist> Mabus06, they're there for a reason, so people can read the documentation and learn.
[09:19] <trappist> Mabus06: don't tell people not to tell people to rtfm.  often it's exactly what they need.
[09:19] <Millenniumgroup> cro-smiley sorry it's in synaptic - repositories
[09:19] <selutha> I am about to install ubuntu and i remeber reading somewhere that there is a popular install script that people use once they get ubuntu intalled to add a bunch of apps like mplay and such can any one help me with the name of it or where it is located
[09:19] <SteveW> soundray, do i have to compile a new kernal?
[09:19] <cion> nwe: in usr/src i have  linux-patches  linux-source-2.6.12  linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[09:19] <mwe> Mabus06: and after the command, nick is not owning the dir?
[09:19] <Millenniumgroup> and then settings
[09:19] <eternalist> Mabus06, are you gonna make us spoon feed every single command to you and what options you should use? why not just learn it once and forget it
[09:19] <cion> nwe:is this correct?
[09:19] <Maniqui> owener989, yes, I'm reading. I have done: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:19] <Mabus06> eternalist, please read coc
[09:19] <dark_angel> hello who speaks germany
[09:20] <Maniqui> with one difference: my partionis are named like /sda11/
[09:20] <komplett_verruck> I do so!
[09:20] <Millenniumgroup> cro-smiley sorry it's in synaptic - repositories,and  then settings
[09:20] <owner989> maniqui make sure you substitute hda1 for your partition name
[09:20] <eternalist> Mabus06, don't tell people to just read things, it doesnt help :)
[09:20] <owner989> for me it is sda1
[09:20] <soundray> SteveW, do you know what type of RAID you want?
[09:20] <Mabus06> eternalist, the coc would help you out. Trust me. Try not to be so rude.
[09:20] <SteveW> sound ray ya, mirror
[09:20] <dark_angel> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:20] <eternalist> Mabus06, I told you to read man chown, how is that being rude? I'm helping you.
[09:20] <cion> can some1 help me with kernel patch?
[09:20] <Maniqui> of course, I have substituted it.
[09:20] <Maniqui> mount: /dev/sda11 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[09:20] <Maniqui> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda11 is mounted on /media/sda11
[09:20] <tyler__> For some reason when i try to copy a folder to themes I get this: cp: omitting directory `./Desktop/Edge'
[09:21] <trappist> Mabus06: the code of conduct instructs you not to point people toward documentation?
[09:21] <Mabus06> eternalist, no, I told you that wasn't helpful. It was then you proceeded to be rude.
[09:21] <eternalist> tyler__, use the -R option, meanin grecursive
[09:21] <mwe> cion: have you got the kernel source and the patch or what?
[09:21] <owner989> did you unmount it before trying to mount it maniqui
[09:21] <tyler__> eternalist, ok
[09:21] <eternalist> tyler__, so in use, cp -R ./Desktop/Edge .
[09:21] <Mabus06> trappist, code of conduct tells people to be friendly, not insult people and be disrespectful
[09:21] <eternalist> or whatever
[09:21] <tyler__> eternalist, thanks
[09:21] <SteveW> soundray, i want to create my / ext drive on hardware mirror
[09:21] <Mabus06> trappist, have you read it?
[09:21] <cion> nwe: in usr/src i have  linux-patches  linux-source-2.6.12  linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[09:21] <eternalist> tyler__, make sure you read man cp to see other helpful commands, it'll HELP you.
[09:21] <Maniqui> aaaaaaah! let me try that, owner989! :D
[09:21] <cion> nwe: are these files correct?
[09:21] <soundray> SteveW, really? I thought your data weren't valuable. Is it for high availability?
[09:21] <tyler__> eternalist, hehe ok
[09:22] <trappist> Mabus06: read and signed.  I would submit that telling people it's unhelpful to point other people to documentation is disrespectful.
[09:22] <owner989> sudo umount /dev/hda1
[09:22] <SteveW> well its valuable enough for raid but only the most basic kind
[09:22] <owner989> then #
[09:22] <owner989> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[09:22] <eternalist> tyler__, are you trying to install a GNOME theme?
[09:22] <cro-smiley> Millenniumgroup I unchecked "Automaticly check for software updates" I think this should work, thanks again :)
[09:22] <mwe> cion: I have no idea what patch you're trying to apply, so I don't know
[09:22] <SteveW> soundray, well its valuable enough for raid but only the most basic kind
[09:22] <owner989> but for me i had to use sda1 not hda1
[09:22] <Mabus06> trappist, okay well you're submitting nonsense
[09:22] <Millenniumgroup> np cro-smiley
[09:22] <tyler__> eternalist, yeah, i am: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=18631
[09:22] <eternalist> tyler__, if so itd be easier to just go to System > Prefernces > Theme, then drag in the .tar.gz theme
[09:22] <tyler__> eternalist, ohh ok
[09:22] <Mabus06> eternalist, if people don't know how to COPY AND PASTE, they're obviously going to be confused by mans, which are complex for newbies to understand.
[09:23] <trappist> Mabus06: 'rtfm n00b' would have been unhelpful.  what he said wasn't.
[09:23] <mwe> cion: do you even know how to configure and install the new kernel image once the patch is applied?
[09:23] <tyler__> eternalist, do you have any idea how he got his bottom bar like that? on the link i pasted
[09:23] <gnomefreak> i cant use grep :(
[09:23] <cion> nwe: nope
[09:23] <eternalist> tyler__, one sec let me see
[09:23] <trappist> gnomefreak: ?
[09:23] <cion> nwe: can i just leave things like this until i get mre knowledge?
[09:23] <Maniqui> thanks owner989!!! I have done: sudo umount /media/sda11/
[09:23] <gnomefreak> mwe, im sorry looks like it was g++ i was thinking of
[09:23] <owner989> np
[09:23] <gnomefreak> grep doesnt work
[09:23] <komplett_verruck> Hi folks. I'm looking for detailed help with wlan and ipw2100. Can someone help?
[09:23] <eternalist> tyler__, he just increased the size of the bar i think.
[09:23] <owner989> does it work now
[09:23] <Maniqui> and then: sudo mount /dev/sda11 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:23] <Maniqui> and it works!!!
[09:24] <owner989> cool
[09:24] <Mabus06> trappist, it wasn't helpful. I'm the judge. If you ask a question, you're the judge of what's helpful. If you signed the CoC please adhere to it and stop harassing me.
[09:24] <gnomefreak> grep-status -FEssential -sPackage -ni yes    trying to run that command and i cant
[09:24] <owner989> you have to sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:24] <trappist> komplett_verruck: ask a detailed question, get a detailed answer.
[09:24] <eternalist> tyler__, i use this one : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=18194
[09:24] <owner989> to make it mount on startup
[09:24] <eternalist> tyler__, its kinda the same idea as yours which is quite a coincidence
[09:24] <tyler__> eternalist, haha
[09:24] <mwe> cion: then you need to read a howto about that. google for it. learning you how to compile and configure the kernel and then install it is too much for someone in irc
[09:24] <rj120917> join
[09:24] <soundray> SteveW, sorry to be drilling, what exactly do you expect from RAID in the way of advantages over plain old backing up?
[09:25] <tyler__> eternalist, ok, so how do i increase the size of mine to look like the one you just showed me?
[09:25] <eternalist> tyler__, if you right click on the bottom panel
[09:25] <SteveW> soundray, the hd is 160 gb which is a lot to backup!
[09:25] <cion> nwe:ok and is there a way to use a fake terminal before doing the real work?
[09:25] <eternalist> tyler__, then go to properties, you can increase the pixel size
[09:25] <mwe> cion: fake terminal? what's that?
[09:25] <cion> nwe: this way i wouldn't risk to mess with my system
[09:25] <eternalist> tyler__, try something like 40, you'll have to customize to your liking
[09:25] <soundray> SteveW, how many disks in total?
[09:25] <SteveW> soundray, two, mirrored
[09:25] <cion> nwe: i can't mess up this computer so i need somewhere to train with all this stuff
[09:26] <mcphail> SteveW: setting a cron job to run rsync backups overnight is easy
[09:26] <cion> nwe: like a terminal emulator or something
[09:26] <komplett_verruck> ipw2100: all modules loaded, iwconfig says the adapter has tx-power, ifconfig says, the wlan0 is up, but no ping! Any idea?
[09:26] <mcphail> SteveW: and is only a large job the first time it runs
[09:26] <AssTrafic> i'm trying to install ndisrwapper with the command : make install, but it gives me 2 erros... : ... gcc 3.4: command not found
[09:27] <soundray> SteveW, if you mount the second disk on /var/backup, and install sbackup with default settings, you get more security, more flexibility, and less hassle.
[09:27] <AssTrafic> does that mean gcc isn't installed!!? and if so, how do i install it?
[09:27] <mwe> cion: I would just configure the kernel and compile it. that wont hurt your running kernel. then cp the image to /boot and add a new entry in menu.lst. that way you can still boot your current kernel
[09:27] <eternalist> tyler__, any luck?
[09:27] <SteveW> mcphail, i have xp set up on raid and would like to read data from that drive
[09:27] <Maniqui> thanks owner989, I would do the changes. BTW, everytime I start up, I have to run "/sbin/iwconfig ra0 enc restricted" to change my wireless configuration. I didnt find how to do it permanently from the GUI
[09:27] <gnomefreak> i have the list and seeing as i have build-essential it comes with grep why doesnt my grep command work :(
[09:27] <tyler__> eternalist, yeah hehe
[09:27] <eternalist> tyler__, yeah, thats what i like about gnome, you can customize the heck out of the panels
[09:27] <tyler__> eternalist, yeah no shit huh
[09:27] <eternalist> tyler__, i have a little plugin that tells the weather in my area too lol
[09:28] <mcphail> SteveW: ok, sorry - late arrival to the conversation ;)
[09:28] <SteveW> soundray, i'm confused. if i've set the raid controller as mirror, how can ubuntu setup see it as separate disks?
[09:28] <tyler__> eternalist, what icon set do you use?
[09:28] <dodgyville> Hello
[09:28] <cion> ok thx
[09:28] <tyler__> eternalist, hehe ive seen those on windows, but they're full of spyware
[09:28] <cion> nwe:thx cya
[09:28] <gnomefreak> tyler__,  no spyware here in this realm
[09:28] <dodgyville> What's the easiest way to set up a gcc arm toolchain on my AMD box?
[09:28] <tyler__> gnomefreak, hehe
[09:28] <SteveW> mphail, any idea how to setup raid? the bot has decent info
[09:28] <eternalist> tyler__, if you wanna try, just right click on a panel, then add to panel, and add what you want
[09:29] <SteveW> ubotu tell mcphail about raid
[09:29] <soundray> SteveW, okay, I didn't get that you set it up already with MS Win.
[09:29] <Natdigga_> !tell natdigga_ windows
[09:29] <Natdigga_> !tell natdigga_ emulation
[09:29] <Natdigga_> !tell natdigga_ emulator
[09:29] <chris_18888> Hi, I have just installed 5.10 and am curious as to how to make the volume adjuster in the top right to work.  It works when I open the control panel for it.  But if I simply click the speaker icon and adjust it that way it doesn't work.  Can you help me out with that?
[09:29] <eternalist> Natdigga_, just /msg ubotu emulation
[09:30] <soundray> SteveW, back to your original question: this howto says you need to compile a few things, but not the whole kernel.
[09:30] <derek> How do you save in VIM?
[09:30] <eternalist> Natdigga_, what ar eyou trying to emulate?
[09:30] <tyler__> eternalist, so cool!
[09:30] <komplett_verruck> quit
[09:30] <mwe> derek: :w
[09:30] <Natdigga_> windows
[09:30] <Maniqui> ups! this Totem player doesnt seems to like my mp3s nor my videos, etc
[09:30] <eternalist> derek, if you're in insert mode, press ctrl+c then : and w
[09:30] <rj120323> ?
[09:30] <SteveW> soundray,i haven't compiled a kernel since 1995. i'm not looking forward to it!
[09:30] <Natdigga_> eternalist, trying to find a windows emulator
[09:30] <derek> eternalist, mwe : Thanks!
[09:30] <mwe> derek: or ZZ to save and quit
[09:30] <mcphail> SteveW: RAID is something i've been meaning to look at, but have never had the time. I think I'd chicken out and use RAID1 instead of RAID0 anyway.
[09:30] <eternalist> Natdigga_, use wine, but that isnt an emulator
[09:31] <Veinos> do i need a 64bits version of ndiswrapper ? or it's all the same??
[09:31] <eternalist> Natdigga_, in fact, wine stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator
[09:31] <Natdigga_> eternalist, that doesn't come preinstalled does it?
[09:31] <Natdigga_> eternalist, and is it free?
[09:31] <eternalist> um, if it doesnt, just type sudo apt-get install wine
[09:31] <eternalist> of course.
[09:31] <soundray> SteveW, as I say, it doesn't seem necessary.
[09:31] <eternalist> All software in the ubuntu repository is free :)
[09:31] <luisito> Maniqui, use the amarok instead totem
[09:32] <luisito> Maniqui, and for videos gxine
[09:32] <SteveW> soundray, ok, still weary!
[09:32] <soundray> SteveW, can you apt-get install dmraid ?
[09:32] <derek> Can I re-run the /etc/fstab without restarting?
[09:32] <derek> rebooting*
[09:32] <mettallicat> hi pll ... i've an SIS onboard audio card ... bmp plays but speekers don't give a sound ... can u help me
[09:32] <Natdigga_> eternalist, Thanks!
[09:32] <Maniqui> amarok! thanks, luisito... I have a new challenge... try to get amarok from the CLI
[09:32] <soundray> SteveW, it seems to support your controller.
[09:32] <SteveW> soundray, i don't have ubuntu installed yet, i'm trying to install it to the mirrored raid
[09:33] <Natdigga_> eternalist, but it will run some windoze apps?
[09:33] <SteveW> soundray, is this chicken and egg?
[09:33] <derek> (make the changes in it take effect without rebooting)
[09:33] <Maniqui> ops: Package amarok has no installation candidate
[09:33] <soundray> SteveW, err, yes, I think it is...
[09:33] <mwe> derek: mount -a should mount evrything in fstab
[09:33] <Maniqui> let see if I can get it with Synaptic
[09:34] <SteveW> soundray, if i compile on someone else's machine, then make it available during ubuntu installation?
[09:34] <derek> mwe, ok
[09:34] <mettallicat> someone can help me with sis onboard sound card
[09:34] <eternalist> Natdigga_, what do you want to run?
[09:34] <eternalist> Natdigga_, therse a compatibility list
[09:34] <chris_18888> Hi, I have just installed 5.10 and am curious as to how to make the volume adjuster in the top right to work.  It works when I open the control panel for it.  But if I simply click the speaker icon and adjust it that way it doesn't work.  Can you help me out with that?
[09:35] <eternalist> Natdigga_, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:35] <rubem> hi there all
[09:35] <Mabus06> what's the easiest way to play a sound backwards
[09:35] <rubem> how do I access the console in ubuntu 5.10?
[09:35] <luisito> rubem, in the accesories>terminal
[09:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: hey!
[09:36] <crimsun> rubem: in what sense? You can always use a virtual console on ctrl+alt+F{1-6}
[09:36] <soundray> SteveW, I don't think it'll work.
[09:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: whats up?
[09:36] <rubem> luisito: thanks...
[09:36] <crimsun> F[1-6] , rather
[09:36] <rubem> crimsun, thanks
[09:36] <Maniqui> ops. lost again: I though I would find Amarok in the Synaptic Package Manager. But it's not there.
[09:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: sorry for the 'abrupt exit' yesterday, my dad was fooling around with the router
[09:36] <Natdigga_> eternalist, kool I'll check it out...
[09:36] <occy> !firefox
[09:36] <ubotu> No idea, occy
[09:36] <luisito> rubem, no pro :)
[09:36] <SteveW> soundray, back to confusion
[09:36] <soundray> SteveW, can you not install on a separate HD? Couple GB would be plenty.
[09:36] <Natdigga_> eternalist, also...where do I get plugins for totem media player...like WMV and MP3s.
[09:37] <crimsun> Maniqui: do you have the main repository enabled?
[09:37] <SteveW> soundray, i could....
[09:37] <unique311> hello
[09:37] <occy> firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:37] <crimsun> Natdigga_: install gstreamer0.8-mad and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[09:37] <Red-Sox> unique311: hi
[09:37] <Maniqui> what do yo mean, crimsum? I have Synaptic opened.
[09:37] <soundray> SteveW, let's put it this way: by installing MS Windows in a raid config, you've made it inaccessible to the Ubuntu install process.
[09:37] <eternalist> Natdigga_, check out Easy Ubuntu installer :)
[09:37] <crimsun> occy: bad occy. You should not be using that ff deb.
[09:37] <luisito> Maniqui, sudo apt-get install amarok
[09:38] <Red-Sox> is snorks here?
[09:38] <occy> crimsun, it's not a deb
[09:38] <crimsun> occy: from the offical site?
[09:38] <occy> crimsun, heh, it's the tarball
[09:38] <Natdigga_> eternalist, that's the add application link right?
[09:38] <crimsun> occy: oh no, even worse
[09:38] <occy> crimsun, that's the official tarball
[09:38] <soundray> SteveW, if you install to a separate disk, you can boot Ubuntu normally, then run dmraid and make it readable.
[09:38] <Mabus06> what's the easiest way to play a sound backwards
[09:38] <occy> crimsun, well, I just downloaded it
[09:38] <SteveW> soundray, but if i installed ubuntu first, it would klobber grub
[09:38] <occy> and tried to run it from the dir.
[09:38] <ompaul> occy, for dapper?
[09:38] <occy> crimsun, so Ubuntu people are SOL for FF 1.5 ?
[09:38] <ompaul> occy, u running breezy?
[09:38] <occy> ompaul, yes
[09:38] <ompaul> occy, a word, don't do that
[09:39] <crimsun> occy: absolutely, until Ian finishes the proper packaging.
[09:39] <soundray> SteveW, now I'm confused. If you haven't installed yet, where have you got grub from?
[09:39] <occy> crimsun, topic says 1.5 won't be in until April when Dapper is released.
[09:39] <unique311> i'm from NY, my friend is in oklahoma, and i have a network setup on my pc, and i would like to allow my friend to access my shared documents, how do i do so?  one thing is that i have a linksys router connecting the 2 computers i own.
[09:39] <luisito> crimsun > Maniqui: do you have the main repository enabled? <---- (I think he doesn't)
[09:39] <occy> Seems like a heck of a long time to wait.
[09:40] <Maniqui> luisito, when I tried that I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5310
[09:40] <SteveW> soundray, *IF* i were to install ub first then xp, xp would klobber grub
[09:40] <Maniqui> then, I tried it again, and I get: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) // E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:41] <mettallicat> can u tell-me package for alsaconf
[09:41] <mettallicat> ?
[09:41] <occy> crimsun, so the bottom line is, "Wait until April for Dapper Drake to get FF 1.5+?"
[09:41] <Maniqui> luisito, dont know how to enable main repository
[09:41] <ompaul> occy, well it is in the unstable version of the o/s being built, if you can afford the machine dying then you can consider running it but the o/s may not run, that is why it is the development version, stable came out in Oct it stays the same gets security fixes,
[09:41] <Red-Sox> snorks: r u there?
[09:41] <unique311> he has file sharing enabled, and i also have it, but when he tries to access my shareddocs //192.168.1.129/SharedDocs, he can't get thru
[09:41] <derek> mplayer doesn't come with the base install?
[09:41] <derek> in hoary
[09:41] <crimsun> occy: no. When it enters Dapper, it'll be backported to Breezy.
[09:41] <Veinos> can anyone help me installing ndiswrapper? i read the wiki on it, but i got some errors in the process
[09:41] <occy> ompaul, I thought Firefox 1.5 was a stable release.
[09:41] <soundray> SteveW, I was thinking you should leave the RAID with Windows as-is, install Ubuntu on a separate disk, no clobbering required.
[09:41] <ompaul> occy, dapper
[09:41] <occy> didn't know it was beta
[09:41] <ompaul> occy, builds for dapper
[09:42] <crimsun> occy: i.e., breezy-backports
[09:42] <unique311> my english is not so bien,
[09:42] <occy> crimsun, I thought backports were bad?  I'm so confused.
[09:42] <occy> heh
[09:42] <unique311> can anybody help me
[09:42] <calamari> hi
[09:42] <ompaul> !tell unique311 about fr
[09:42] <soundray> unique311, is this a ubuntu question?
[09:42] <crimsun> occy: unofficial backports are questionable at best.
[09:42] <SteveW> soundray, yes user jose.home has same problem in ubotu howto
[09:42] <unique311> yes it is
[09:42] <ltibor65> Hi!
[09:42] <hhurtta> what's wrong with ff1.5 and breezy?
[09:42] <crimsun> occy: the ones in the -backports repositories hosted on archive.ubuntu.com are fine
[09:43] <hhurtta> at least separate dl works with me
[09:43] <Baorc> ok i need some massive help with my asus a8v-e deluxe on board wifi card
[09:43] <unique311> ompaul: well i am using ubuntu, so i guess it is an ubuntu question
[09:43] <shining> kernels are nicely broken in dapper :d
[09:43] <calamari> I had to install windows (for a school assignment in vs.net), so of course grub is wiped out.  Whats the easiest way to get everything booting back to ubuntu again?  I have tomsrtbt and an old warty live cd, and I can download new stuff if needed
[09:43] <ompaul> unique311, ask in detail please
[09:44] <luisito> Maniqui, go to help and click the Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide link then go to Installing Aplications
[09:44] <crimsun> shining: in what sense?
[09:44] <Baorc> i tried the whole ndiswrapper thing, my driver is installed, ndiswrapper tells me my hardware is present
[09:44] <shining> calamari: it's easy to do it manually
[09:44] <dodgyville> Are there arm-linux cross compiler packages for ubuntu any where?
[09:44] <Baorc> but it doesnt show up anywhere else
[09:44] <shining> calamari: boot with a livecd, then mount your ubuntu partitions and chroot in it
[09:44] <Baorc> aka network tools or interfaces (i added the lines myself but its not working because it doesnt recognize wlan0)
[09:44] <unique311> ompaul: i have a network setup for the 2 computers i own at home, and would like my friend thats living in oklahoma to be able to access it.
[09:44] <shining> then just reinstall grub with grub-install for example
[09:45] <calamari> shining: ahhhh .. chroot. thank you :)
[09:45] <luisito> Maniqui, read and do what it says and then you're done
[09:45] <shining> crimsun: deps problem mostly
[09:45] <crimsun> shining: dependencies? which?
[09:45] <Red-Sox> snorks: join #Red-Sox
[09:45] <unique311> ompaul: i'm behind a router and the ip to the computer i want him to access is 192.168.1.120, how can i set it up where he is part of the network, or can access my shareddoc
[09:45] <ompaul> unique311, I will give you a product that will work with that a dream OpenVPN you will have to search online for the FAQs for it but it works a dream
[09:45] <jorgg> is firefox 1.5 ready for install with synaptic packetmanager?
[09:46] <shining> crimsun: between the different kernel packages
[09:46] <ompaul> jorgg, no
[09:46] <_jason> jorgg, read the topic
[09:46] <shining> crimsun: you can install a kernel-image directly though
[09:46] <crimsun> shining: which kernel packages?
[09:46] <unique311> ompaul, thanks
[09:46] <shining> hmm linux-image I mean
[09:46] <ompaul> No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper.
[09:46] <Natdigga_> eternalist, Is there something else I need to do to see video from the WMV?
[09:46] <calamari> jorgg: I made a package for it, but really, you don't want it.. 1.5 isn't quite ready for prime time.. was crashing out all over the place
[09:46] <crimsun> shining: right, linux-image-$arch hasn't been updated to -6 yet
[09:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell Natdigga_ about w32codecs
[09:47] <Natdigga_> _jason, thanks
[09:47] <Red-Sox> snorks: okay?
[09:47] <shining> crimsun: try apt-get install linux for example
[09:47] <_jason> Natdigga_, np
[09:47] <jorgg> okay.
[09:47] <owner989> why is that ompaul
[09:47] <shining> crimsun: ha
[09:47] <derek> how to paste in vim?
[09:48] <shining> crimsun: one package had a problem too, linux-modules-common or something like that
[09:48] <crimsun> shining: l-r-m-common?
[09:48] <ompaul> owner989, that is because it did not make it into breezy as a release, it will only ever be available as a backport, it will never be part of the official breezy distro
[09:48] <shining> linux-restricted-modules-common
[09:48] <shining> yes
[09:48] <hhurtta> derek: paint with mouse and paste with middle button won't do?
[09:48] <crimsun> l-r-m-common is fine here
[09:48] <_jason> derek, p
[09:49] <ompaul> owner989, Oct 13th was the release date of Breezy 5.10
[09:49] <Red-Sox> does beagle cover IRC chats?
[09:49] <eternalist> Natdigga_, im telling you, get Easy Ubuntu, itll install all the codecs and everything
[09:49] <fco> hello, from shell how can i reconfigure the network ?
[09:49] <D-tag> Nautilus wont scroll through the file list when i hit a letter any idea why ?
[09:49] <shining> crimsun: ha yes sorry, they fixed it today
[09:49] <jknife> who uses DR17
[09:49] <Baorc> Can anyone help me with wifi on amd64 ?
[09:49] <shining> crimsun: only the problem that it isnt updated to -6 then
[09:50] <Red-Sox> snorks: is that okay?
[09:50] <soundray> Baorc, I can try...
[09:50] <Maniqui> do I need to install KDE for using Amarok?
[09:50] <owner989> ompaul does that mean we can install it separately
[09:50] <crimsun> Maniqui: no.
[09:50] <Baorc> soundray : yeah you aren't going to like this one, lol
[09:50] <jknife> Maniqui, just the libs
[09:50] <shining> on my other laptop with an ich6 chipset, I normally have sda for the hard drive, but with the latest 2.6.15 ubuntu kernel, it was under hda
[09:50] <crimsun> Maniqui: just ''sudo aptitude install amarok''
[09:50] <LjL> Maniqui: no, but installing it will result in installing many dependencies from kde, anyway
[09:51] <shining> and I couldn't enable dma, so it was awfully slow
[09:51] <Baorc> I installed the driver already, used the win2k one because apparently the winxp one is buggy
[09:51] <Baorc> through ndiswrapper
[09:51] <recon0> when i go away on gaim, the away message does not reply
[09:51] <Maniqui> aaaaaah, ok! I have enable more repositories. Thanks, I think I will be running Amarok in few minutes...
[09:51] <Baorc> apparently it installed correctly but it still doesnt show up anywhere
[09:51] <crimsun> shining: known issue, Scott's working on it.
[09:51] <derek> mplayer doesn't come with hoary base install?
[09:51] <Baorc> aka in network tools
[09:51] <_jason> recon0, I think you have to become idle for it to reply
[09:51] <Nico_1981> I compiled, installed the new linux kernel 2.6.14.3, I configured it with the right paths in grub, and booting on it I receive: "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" ... ideas anybody ?
[09:51] <shining> crimsun: ok nice :) thanks for the info
[09:51] <soundray> Baorc, does it show up in ndiswrapper -l ?
[09:51] <Baorc> yeah it does
[09:51] <recon0> _jason, is there any way to fix this?
[09:52] <Baorc> driver present, hardware present
[09:52] <crimsun> Nico_1981: did you compile in all necessary drivers?
[09:52] <Baorc> but i still cant configure it
[09:52] <luisito> anybody knows why I'm having this error (Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)) when updating the repositories package lists?
[09:52] <crimsun> Nico_1981: did you ''sudo update-grub'' after editing the proper section in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:52] <Baorc> i tried editing the interface file manually and add the necessary lines, no go
[09:52] <soundray> Baorc, do you get a wlan0 stanza in ifconfig -a ?
[09:52] <Baorc> nope
[09:52] <Nico_1981> crimsun, i kept the default in menuconfig, it has almost everything for at least not panicing
[09:53] <shining> crimsun: there is one wonderful thing about dapper, r300 works out of the box :)
[09:53] <owner989> whats the newest kernel for breezy
[09:53] <Baorc> i dont have a wlan0 anywhere
[09:53] <LjL> owner989: 2.6.12
[09:53] <crimsun> owner989: 2.6.12-10
[09:53] <_jason> recon0, yes, check away/idle prefs change auto-reply to just "away"
[09:53] <janek> h
[09:53] <mwe> update-grub. that shouldn't be necesary when installing a custom kernel
[09:53] <soundray> Baorc, do you know of any successes with ndiswrapper on AMD64? It could be that it just doesn't work...
[09:53] <recon0> ok
[09:53] <recon0> thanks
[09:53] <Nico_1981> crimsun, i didnt try update-grub, is it like the "lilo" command ? i thought grub did not need this step
[09:53] <redguy> luisito: souds like a corrupt Packages.gz file, try doing apt-get update again
[09:53] <owner989> i think im using 2.6.10
[09:53] <crimsun> shining: yes, quite a few things have been fixed, though we're in the process of breaking lots of things, too
[09:53] <Baorc> yeah i have actually
[09:53] <owner989> is it worth updating
[09:53] <Baorc> i actually got a detailed step by step for it
[09:53] <crimsun> Nico_1981: yes
[09:54] <luisito> owner989, 2.6.12-10-386 I think
[09:54] <soundray> Baorc, can you point me there pls?
[09:54] <shining> crimsun: x things ?
[09:54] <Baorc> on ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net in their wiki
[09:54] <Baorc> yeah one sec
[09:54] <Red-Sox> does anyone know snorks?
[09:54] <crimsun> shining: "breaking" meaning rearchitecting
[09:54] <mwe> Nico_1981: grub doesn't need the update-grub command to run when installing a custom kernel
[09:54] <shining> crimsun: ok
[09:54] <Nico_1981> crimsun, i install you meant "grub-install", I try and reboot
[09:55] <Baorc> mind if i msg it to you? dont want to spam the channel
[09:55] <soundray> Baorc, not at all.
[09:55] <ompaul> owner989, please join me in #ubuntu-ie or #ubuntu-offtopic so I can answer your question - my answer is longgggg
[09:55] <SteveW> soundray, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6721
[09:55] <jknife> "If you have to ask how to use dapper, don't"... isnt it like using anyother debian based distro?
[09:55] <owner989> ok
[09:55] <crimsun> Nico_1981: no, I mean ''update-grub''
[09:55] <johnny___> hi
[09:56] <crimsun> jknife: yes...and no.
[09:56] <jknife> grub updates it self on boot
[09:56] <mwe> Nico_1981: non of those commands should be run when installing a custom kernel. just edit menu.lst. done
[09:56] <ompaul> jknife, no it is not ready for use - the kernel is not booting yet :)
[09:56] <luisito> redguy, it says : gzip: stdin: not in gzip format Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[09:56] <derek> how to install mplayer?
[09:56] <Nico_1981> mwe, i do everything by hand, so i just need to add a paragraph for my new entries in /boot, and reboot ? nothing to execute ? is there at least a way to check my menu.lst is correct ?
[09:56] <jknife> 2.6.13?
[09:56] <jknife> derek, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:56] <derek> k
[09:56] <crimsun> the kernel boots on most everything; it's the combined breakage that we've been pushing into Dapper that complicates things.
[09:56] <soundray> Baorc, do I have to enable msg'ing somehow?
[09:56] <johnny___> is there a way to do the "net send " command in linux to a windows machine?
[09:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell derek about mplayer
[09:56] <derek> jknife, does it play mp3s?
[09:56] <Baorc> maybe dunno
[09:56] <jknife> beats me
[09:56] <_jason> derek, yes
[09:57] <crimsun> derek: mplayer does
[09:57] <Baorc> tried again
[09:57] <soundray> Baorc, I found it.
[09:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell derek about mp3
[09:57] <Baorc> ok cool
[09:57] <mwe> Nico_1981: I don't know how to check if it's correct other than looking at it and trying to boot. no need to run any commands, other than editing menu.lst though
[09:57] <Nico_1981> mwe, crimsun, thanks
[09:58] <redguy> luisito: did you update again? if that doesn't help change your mirror
[09:58] <derek> ok
[09:58] <derek> thanks
[09:58] <johnny___> im naked
[09:58] <levander> I'm compiling the linux kernel the old fashioned way, just using make to stress test my CPU.  Don't want to install the built kernel.  Anybody know if typing the actual make that compiles the kernel will overwrite the installed kernel?
[09:58] <Stormx2> johnny___: o_O
[09:59] <johnny___> lol
[09:59] <trappist> levander: only make install risks doing that.  you're fine.
[09:59] <johnny___> sorry im bored
[09:59] <Stormx2> johnny___: We may live in our parents' basements, but we arn't that desperate
[09:59] <johnny___> derran borwn on now
[09:59] <Red-Sox> johnny___: are you really?
[09:59] <luisito> redguy, when I'm updating is when I get that error
[09:59] <levander> trappist: if you just do 'make' on the default target for a makefile, does that include the install target?
[09:59] <johnny___> no im afraid not im over a friends house
[09:59] <ompaul> johnny___, please note there are 677 people here it is a support channel join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[10:00] <Murrlin> g'afternoon all
[10:00] <Nico_1981> so I guess i dont have the right modules in the config ... sad, as i use the default config from kernel.org ... is it safe to use the 2.6.12 config by ubuntu for compiling a 2.6.14.3 kernel ?
[10:00] <soundray> Baorc, sorry I haven't found it. Pls paste the link, I'm sure noone will mind.
[10:00] <trappist> levander: no.  make just compiles.  you'd have to 'make install' to install it and overwrite anything.
[10:00] <Stormx2> Murrlin: Good evening
[10:00] <crimsun> levander: in any case, I presume you're compiling your kernel as a normal user, so ''make install'' would fail horribly anyway
[10:00] <eternalist> where do i put truetype fonts?
[10:00] <redguy> luisito: change your repository mirror then
[10:00] <levander> trappist: thanks
[10:00] <crimsun> eternalist: ~/.fonts/
[10:00] <eternalist> i need the tahoma.ttf font for a certain application im tryign to wine
[10:00] <eternalist> crimsun, you sure?
[10:00] <Murrlin> does ubuntu (gnome?) have video drivers specifically for a voodoo banshee (2d as well as 3d)?
[10:00] <Stormx2> !fonts
[10:00] <ubotu> hmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[10:01] <crimsun> eternalist: yes, why?
[10:01] <Nico_1981> levander, the make is ok, but dont type "make install", do it by hand with a different name
[10:01] <Murrlin> because I'm wondering about something. the slowness of ubuntu on my pII 400.
[10:01] <eternalist> crimsun, because i need it to run steam or something so
[10:01] <Baorc> soundray, got anything?
[10:01] <Murrlin> a) need a kernal 686? b) specific video drivers? or c) it'll be slower naturally because of the cpu speed?
[10:01] <soundray> Baorc, no :(
[10:01] <levander> Nico_1981: yeah, i think i'm going to actually do the make as a non-super user, and make sure i don't do a 'make install'
[10:01] <Baorc> but did you see the webpage?
[10:02] <courtney_> :D
[10:02] <SteveW> soundray, think i found the solution
[10:02] <nicholas> which is good desktop publishing program in ubuntu ?
[10:02] <SteveW> sound ray, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/RAID1
[10:02] <johnny___> is there a way to do the net send command in linux
[10:02] <ColD_7> can anyone show me where can i get links for good linux rpg games?
[10:02] <maw> is ubuntu a debian fork?
[10:02] <soundray> Baorc, no, sorry, pls paste the URL.
[10:02] <ltibor65> Hi! Boys, why cannot I read NTFS partitions from Ubuntu 5.1?
[10:02] <crimsun> maw: no.
[10:02] <Baorc> aright here goes
[10:02] <maw> hehe
[10:02] <Baorc> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Complete_Example_2_-_ASUS_A8V-E_On_Board_WiFi_.28Marvell_Chipset_11ab:lfa7.29_.2B_Ndiswrapper_.2B_Ubuntu_.28Breezy_Badger.29_.5BPost_by_Yueh_-_stevenyu24_AT_gmail.com.5D
[10:02] <_null> Murrlin, of course it will be slower because of your cpu... A pII 400 mhz is much slower than a p4 with 2.8 ghz ;)
[10:02] <kbrooks> crimsun, say why? ;)
[10:02] <Murrlin> alright
[10:02] <mwe> maw: it's based on debian sid
[10:02] <paines> hi
[10:02] <Baorc> thats exactly my mobo and the dev id of my onboard card
[10:02] <Murrlin> I could try the 686 kernel however.
[10:02] <maw> mwe: so it's a fork?
[10:03] <redguy> nicholas: don't know if that's what you want but look into inkscape
[10:03] <kbrooks> maw: no
[10:03] <mwe> maw: no
[10:03] <Murrlin> thanks
[10:03] <_null> Murrlin, of course you could...
[10:03] <kbrooks> maw: basing != fork
[10:03] <Baorc> actually i have the a8v-e deluxe but im pretty sure thats what he meant
[10:03] <maw> hehe, same shit
[10:03] <paines> anyone know if the amd64 libc6 version is compiled with mptl support?
[10:03] <kbrooks> maw: no, its not
[10:03] <meheren> can someone recommend a good c++ compiler
[10:04] <mjr> paines, yes, it is
[10:04] <crimsun> maw: no, it's not the same. Mark Shuttleworth addresses this question on his wiki page; go read it first. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[10:04] <paines> mjr, how do you know ?
[10:04] <mjr> paines, umm, if you mean "ntpl" :)
[10:04] <redguy> meheren: g++ ?
[10:04] <flickerfly> What's the state of digital video on Ubuntu? Can it be done by someone without a video geek degree?
[10:04] <ltibor65> Crimsun, why cannot I read NTFS partition from Ububtu?
[10:04] <meheren> g++? ok thx
[10:04] <soundray> Baorc, are you sure this guy is running amd64?
[10:04] <crimsun> ltibor65: did you mount it correctly?
[10:04] <meheren> apr0get install g+++?
[10:05] <crimsun> meheren: no, ''sudo aptitude install build-essential''
[10:05] <Baorc> actually good point, dunno but im pretty sure that board is 64, i cant back it up though..
[10:05] <meheren> apt-get install G++?
[10:05] <mjr> paines, well, for example how the threads are arranged in /proc and show/don't show in ps, but I did check it more thorougly too some time back
[10:05] <meheren> ok
[10:05] <maw> "Is Ubuntu a Debian fork?" "Yes, Ubuntu is a fork"
[10:05] <nicholas> video geek degree :)
[10:05] <soundray> Baorc, he may just have done the plain i386 install, inspite of k8.
[10:05] <johnny___> dose any one know a good network/hacking talk on freenode?
[10:05] <vbgunz> s
[10:05] <Baorc> then holy crap where can i find something for that because ive been trying stuff for like a week with a shitload of different things
[10:06] <mjr> paines, ah, found it; getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
[10:06] <soundray> Baorc, don't start swearing just yet...
[10:06] <eternalist> crimsun, i dont have a .fonts directory
[10:06] <Baorc> i heard about amd64 having troubles with wireless and to just install the plain i386 install
[10:06] <eternalist> Does anyone know where to put the tahoma.ttf font?
[10:06] <ltibor65> I installed Ubuntu, I see the Windows harddrives on the desktop, but cannot read.
[10:06] <paines> mjr, ahhhh.thx man
[10:06] <existance> Are there any in-depth tutorials for Unix/Ubunut anyone would recommend?
[10:06] <paines> mjr, didn't know of getconf
[10:06] <soundray> Baorc, it may be that you just have to get a 64bit Windows driver to feed ndiswrapper with.
[10:06] <crimsun> eternalist: then create one, and put the font there, then run ''sudo fc-cache -fv''
[10:06] <Baorc> which i would have...
[10:06] <owner989> ltibor65 read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:06] <mwe> i'd put tahoma.ttf in /dev/null
[10:06] <existance> ltibor65, did you mount them?
[10:07] <derek> how can i find out how large mplayer would be before downloading/(installing)?
[10:07] <ltibor65> No,
[10:07] <slew> !mp3
[10:07] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[10:07] <existance> ltibor65, do you know which partitiosn they are?
[10:07] <Baorc> i downloaded all the drivers for all the windows for my mobo, so just installing it with ndiswrapper, it should appear in network tools?
[10:07] <ltibor65> automount
[10:07] <DarkO> Is 64 bit Breezer faster then i386?
[10:07] <Stormx2> derek: In synaptic, mark as install, then go to "apply changes". The dialog box will tell you
[10:07] <paines> DarkO, yes
[10:08] <existance> ltibor65, do you know which partitions they are though?
[10:08] <soundray> SteveW, "At least root partition should not be on RAID1"...
[10:08] <mjr> DarkO, generally, a bit. Probably not visibly except in computation-intensive jobs
[10:08] <ltibor65> I can read fat32 and other linux partition, but ntfs not.
[10:08] <SteveW> soundray, what does that first statement mean
[10:08] <sorush20> hi guys
[10:09] <SteveW> soundray, does it mean, "you should put the root not on raid, but if you want to, here's how you do it"?
[10:09] <sorush20> I've still not sorted out my ubuntu problem..
[10:09] <existance> ltibor65, can you paste your /etc/fstab file to www.pastebin.com?
[10:09] <DarkO> Thanks  paines and mjr! I'm allready downloading 64 bit version.
[10:09] <eternalist> crimsun, do you know why when i try to type in the steam login, it starts typing outside of it, like it types in my terminal and stuff
[10:09] <eternalist> crimsun, i cant type inside
[10:09] <cdubya> nicholas, I'm a bit late back, have you checked into scribus?
[10:09] <slew> what do i need to do to get k3b to burn mp3s? says unsupported format. =[
[10:09] <crimsun> eternalist: come again?
[10:10] <El_Che> anyone here has gotten a vpn to work if the rules of the vpn requires a windows antivurus and a windows firewall program
[10:10] <sorush20> is there a way that I could disable different services daemons from the command line in the recovery mode?
[10:10] <ltibor65> How do I make it?
[10:10] <El_Che> ?
[10:10] <Red-Sox> snorks: kay?
[10:10] <Baorc> aright off to try the other drivers.
[10:10] <mwe> SteveW: I seem to remember racing conditions and having to use an initramfs to use raid on /. I might be wrong though
[10:10] <soundray> SteveW, whatever it means, it says "make the raid1 in the partitioner", which means these are not the instructions for a RAID that's already set up.
[10:10] <derek> Stormx2, k
[10:10] <existance> Is it possible to have an extended desktop where one monitor runs off an ATI card while the other is a PCI Geforce card?
[10:10] <eternalist> crimsun, im trying to run Steam, and i try to typ ein the login, but it types outside, like it isnt acceptin gmy keystrokes
[10:10] <Baorc> thanks soundray
[10:10] <soundray> Baorc, the drivers you've downloaded aren't necessarily 64-bit.
[10:10] <crimsun> eternalist: no, do it in a Terminal
[10:10] <crimsun> eternalist: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[10:10] <soundray> Baorc, esp. since you said you used win2k ones (?)
[10:11] <SteveW> mwe, what do you mean racing conditions
[10:11] <existance> Is it possible to have an extended desktop where one monitor runs off an ATI card while the other is a PCI Geforce card?
[10:11] <SteveW> mwe, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/RAID1
[10:11] <oxez> eternalist: run wine in a 'desktop' , see winecfg
[10:11] <eternalist> crimsun, nevermind, i set a profile to run it in a virtual desktop because it wont take focus
[10:11] <eternalist> oxez, thx lol, i figured it out
[10:11] <Simira> how do I print a page in b/w on a colour printer?
[10:12] <ltibor65> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[10:12] <ltibor65> #
[10:12] <ltibor65> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[10:12] <ltibor65> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hda8       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <holycow> *uh oh*
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hda7       /media/hda7     ext3    defaults        0       2
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/sdb5       /media/sdb5     vfat    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <existance> STOP
[10:12] <mwe> SteveW: like the driver is needed to use raid, but the driver resides in the kernel on a raid fs
[10:12] <eternalist> ltibor65, oh yea keep the flod coming baby
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/sdb6       /media/sdb6     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/sdb7       /media/sdb7     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:12] <eternalist> use pastebin.com
[10:12] <existance> ltibor65, don't paste in here
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:12] <_jason> !pastebin
[10:12] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom2   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:12] <ltibor65> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[10:12] <existance> ...
[10:12] <oxez> wow stop
[10:12] <holycow> someone ban him
[10:12] <mwe> SteveW: see the problem?
[10:12] <eternalist> lol
[10:12] <qt2> horray, i fixed my "raw mode" irc problem :3
[10:12] <ltibor65> Sorry
[10:12] <jasongrieves> can someone tell me if their gdm user is disabled by default
[10:12] <svk_frank> does ubunut have XEN in Universe ?
[10:12] <existance> ltibor65, use www.pastebin.com and then tell us the link
[10:12] <jasongrieves> i can't rmeember if I enabled mine or if ubuntu has it disabled
[10:13] <SteveW> mwe, i'm confused
[10:13] <qt2> ltibor65, use pastebin or nomorepasting from now on.
[10:13] <johnny___> hi
[10:13] <janek> how do I setup dualmonitor in ubuntu
[10:13] <existance> Is it possible to have an extended desktop where one monitor runs off an ATI card while the other is a PCI Geforce card?
[10:13] <johnny___> is there a program to chekc what ports ahve been blocked
[10:13] <mwe> SteveW: that's why it's not to easy to use raid on / iirc
[10:13] <Simira> how do I print a page in b/w on a colour printer?
[10:13] <qt2> brb.
[10:14] <mjr> existance, yes, shouldn't be a problem. I'm not sure if 3d acceleration would work, tho.
[10:14] <soundray> existance, you can do stuff like that in X in principle.
[10:14] <soundray> existance, you'll have to hack on your xorg.conf, though.
[10:14] <existance> soundray, i'm decently new, is that something I shouldn't attempt for a while?
[10:14] <janek> can someone help with installing ATI video drivers
[10:14] <psusi> I'm trying to figure out how to make daily incremental backups... I found tar has a --newer-mtime option that looks like I should be able to use to backup only files that changed
[10:14] <cdubya> Simira, what kind of printer?
[10:14] <jasongrieves> mjr do you have a free minute/
[10:14] <Simira> cdubya : HP Deskjet 3550
[10:15] <SteveW> stevew, ya. but the installer has an option for filetype "physical volume for RAID" whatever that means
[10:15] <johnny___> can some one help me?
[10:15] <mjr> existance, I wouldn't recommend it for the faint of heart, no
[10:15] <mjr> jasongrieves, yeah, why me? ;)
[10:15] <cion> how do i check my kernel version?
[10:15] <psusi> only when I use it, tar prints a line for every file it is NOT backing up because it is old, and it seems to add every directory to the archive even though it contains no newer and thus backed up files
[10:15] <psusi> anyone have any sugestions on how to clean that up a bit?
[10:15] <mwe> SteveW: you could do it with a seperate /boot partition that is not in a raid array or use an initfs. But again I might be wrong, it's quite some time since I read about it
[10:15] <janek> I've followed the instructions on ATI site, but still can't install
[10:15] <jasongrieves> mjr because you helped yesterday, could you tell me what shell user gdm is using on ur ubuntu?
[10:15] <holycow> hey, on a system where there is only one account ... if you chmod 600 their dir .... you can no longer write to it of course.  how does one change the dir back to say 755?  a live cd perhaps?
[10:15] <DarkO> cion - uname -a
[10:15] <existance> mjr, mmm, i guess i'll wait a week and see how pissed i get at having one monitor
[10:15] <soundray> existance, I'd suggest you search the web - there are reports and howtos on dual monitor setups like that. If you feel up to it, do it.
[10:16] <Maniqui> it wasn just: "install amarok and play your mp3 files!". I needed to install some plug-ins, etc... now listening to Yello! thanks!
[10:16] <jasongrieves> existance there are lots of posts aobut it
[10:16] <mjr> jasongrieves, /bin/false
[10:16] <existance> soundray, i'll look around
[10:16] <svk_frank> Is there anybody working on a package for ubuntu for xen ?
[10:16] <jasongrieves> mjr, great, does it have a random password ?
[10:16] <johnny___> Can someone help me plz?
[10:16] <Simira> cdubya : any idea?
[10:16] <mjr> existance, neither of the cards supports two monitors on its own?
[10:16] <Maniqui> aaaaah, linux is hard, but when you are beeing helped and you discovery something, it's a nice feeling
[10:17] <cion> dark0 u sure?
[10:17] <luisito> redguy, can you paste your sources.list in the paste bin please?
[10:17] <mjr> jasongrieves, no, it has no valid password
[10:17] <jasongrieves> mjr, thanks, helps a lot
[10:17] <slew> johnny___, whats up?
[10:17] <Stormchaser> !tell cion about u
[10:17] <cdubya> Simira, not on that particular model, but on the Z22 I use on my lan here, I just opened the print admin and right-clicked to properties, then clicked on Advanced and there was an open to change to b/w
[10:17] <DarkO> cion, yes in terminal window or console, just type  uname -a
[10:18] <Stormchaser> dammit! wrong chan :/
[10:18] <cdubya> Simira, System > Administration > Printing
[10:18] <johnny___> say your connected to a server and that server blocks out certain ports such as irc is there away i can find out what other ports are blocked aswell?
[10:18] <cion> must kernel always be compiled?
[10:18] <cdubya> Simira, right-click printer > Properties
[10:18] <eternalist> Anybody want to help me write a Equation to calculate Pwnage of a given object?
[10:18] <trappist> johnny___: nmap
[10:18] <eternalist> itll be named after me and use the greek letter 
[10:18] <cdubya> Simira, then check to see if there's an Advanced tab
[10:18] <sethk> Simira, you can install one instance of the printer with color set, and another instance with b+w set
[10:18] <Simira> cdubya : yes, I didn't think of that. Thanks!
[10:18] <cdubya> np
[10:18] <eternalist> therefore a micro of that unit will be a 
[10:19] <DarkO> cion, yes but it is compiled by your distribution vendor
[10:19] <cdubya> Simira, sethk is right....good suggestion
[10:19] <soundray> johnny___, yes, you'd have to do a port scan. But unless it's your machine, don't do it - you'll make yourself very unpopular.
[10:19] <cion> Dark0 what u mean i got ubuntu by myself
[10:20] <DarkO> cion, with it you've got compiled kernel too. I don't understand what do you mean.
[10:20] <fco> how can i modify ubuntu configuration without X server ?
[10:20] <soundray> fco, edit the relevant files in /etc/
[10:20] <ompaul> fco, do you mean turn off X?
[10:21] <cion> Dark0: i was told to compile kernel but my comp just goes fine, is that necessary? i downloaded linux-686 package and uninstalled linux 386
[10:21] <DarkO> cion, you can compile your version and configuration of kernel by yourself
[10:21] <Maniqui> there is a icon in the tray that says that there are 37 packages to update... should I update?
[10:21] <johnny___> ok
[10:21] <fco> ompaul, no.. i've not installed X
[10:21] <Red-Sox> snorks: okay?
[10:21] <johnny___> but i dont inderstand
[10:21] <cion> dark0 ok where do i get ubuntu info for that?
[10:21] <trappist> cion: if it ain't broke, tweak it
[10:21] <maria> hi
[10:21] <ompaul> cion, you need to nothing see trappist's comment
[10:21] <fco> i ask if there is a shell interface to modify configuration...
[10:21] <cion> trappist sorry?
[10:21] <DarkO> cion, no you don't have to compile kernel, unless you want different version or kernel configuration (drivers etc)
[10:21] <trappist> cion: it's a joke, mostly
[10:22] <trappist> fco: in linux almost all configuration is in text files
[10:22] <ompaul> fco,  your question is far to vague
[10:22] <cion> trappist oh ok sorry my english is poor
[10:22] <cion> Dark0 if i compile kernel my laptop will run better?
[10:22] <trappist> cion: not really, no
[10:22] <Simira> cdubya : didn't seem to work for the evince pdf printout, though
[10:22] <Veinos> hey, i'm trying to edit a file (control.modules) i've change the permission to read and write, but i can't save it
[10:23] <cion> trappist oh ok good news thx
[10:23] <cion> cya all
[10:23] <psusi> I'm trying to figure out how to make daily incremental backups... I found tar has a --newer-mtime option that looks like I should be able to use to backup only files that changed
[10:23] <psusi> only when I use it, tar prints a line for every file it is NOT backing up because it is old, and it seems to add every directory to the archive even though it contains no newer and thus backed up files
[10:23] <maria> hi, how can I install new hardware, a wireless lan card for example
[10:23] <trappist> Veinos: are you the owner of that file?
[10:23] <psusi> anyone have any sugestions on how to clean that up a bit?
[10:23] <DarkO> cion probably not
[10:23] <jasongrieves> Veinos are you using sudo gedit control.modules
[10:23] <Veinos> no
[10:23] <jasongrieves> or your fav/ text editor
[10:23] <johnny___> if i port redirected port 6667 through 80 would it mess up my webbrowsing?
[10:23] <jasongrieves> sudo nano control.modules
[10:23] <Veinos> not the owner, but i change the permission for others to write it
[10:23] <maria> hi, how can I install new hardware, a wireless lan card for example
[10:24] <calamari> yay.. back in ubuntu :)
[10:24] <soundray> fco, is there something specific that you'd like to configure?
[10:24] <Veinos> isn't that enough?
[10:24] <cdubya> Simira, sorry, what were you trying to print?
[10:24] <fco> ompaul, the initial configuration is in a text interface.. there is a similar interface for post configuration ?
[10:24] <ompaul> maria, if you have bought it you may need to use ndiswrapper (to do so >>/msg ubotu ndiswrapper<<)
[10:24] <calamari> noice thing about my ff1.5 package is that it was easy to get back to 1.0.7 .. hehe
[10:24] <Simira> cdubya : a pdf from evince
[10:24] <fco> soundray, yes the network interfaces for example
[10:24] <jasongrieves> Veinos sorry you'll have to get some other help, i gotta run
[10:24] <cdubya> ah
[10:24] <maria> thx ompaul, ill try that out
[10:25] <ompaul> fco, depends on the program, in a lot of cases as has been said the config is in txt
[10:25] <soundray> fco, good example. You use an editor, eg. nano, and open /etc/network/interfaces
[10:25] <jasongrieves> Veinos you need to be in the group/owner fora file/folder or set the permission for writing for all users otherwise
[10:25] <ompaul> fco, in /etc/ or the users home directory for non system wide configs
[10:25] <cdubya> Simira, did you happen to go ahead and try sethk's suggestion and create two different instances of the printer......
[10:25] <soundray> fco, the syntax of the file is documented in man interfaces.
[10:25] <Veinos> it worked, with sudo gedit... i jsut thought changing the permission would solve the problem :\
[10:25] <lito> xD
[10:25] <lito> wena
[10:25] <fco> ompaul, soundray, ok Thanks
[10:26] <Simira> cdubya : it's not possible, as I can't rename the printer, I think... I'm still working on it
[10:26] <levander> Does a 'make clean' remove everything that has been built when you do a 'make' with the linux kernel sources?
[10:26] <trappist> Veinos: files aren't just readable and writable - they're readable and writable for the owner, the owner's group, and/or others
[10:26] <jasongrieves> Veinos be careful with modifying system files w/ permissions
[10:26] <jasongrieves> Veinos you dont want to give all users write access to say xorg
[10:27] <johnny___> can i net send to a windows computer using linux???????
[10:27] <levander> The damn kernel HOWTO has been taken down off tldp.org while they're writing a new one, and I can't find good doc.'s.
[10:27] <cdubya> Simira, double click on New printer, then set the name to be something unique, like HP_ModNum_BW.....
[10:27] <Veinos> jason, i believe you, but i don't know what xorg is :)
[10:27] <cdubya> Simira, then make that one set by default to B/W
[10:27] <jasongrieves> Veinos xorg.conf, controls hwo your X server behaves
[10:27] <trappist> johnny___: sudo apt-get install linpopup
[10:27] <Veinos> trapist: yah i understand that, but what amI as default user? other?
[10:27] <adamw_> !listkeys print
[10:27] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'print' by key (5 shown): print ;; printing ;; printer ;; network printing ;; printers.
[10:27] <jasongrieves> Veinos in your case control.modules could be "written" by any user on the system if oyu gave it 777 permissions
[10:27] <johnny___> ah i had to download it no wonder why it didnt work
[10:27] <adamw_> !print
[10:28] <ubotu> print is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:28] <jasongrieves> Veinos or any user who got illegal access
[10:28] <cdubya> Simira, then make sure to set your other to color and remember which one you're spooling to when you send the pdf...;)
[10:28] <DarkO> johnny____, smbclient -M user "message" or something like that - check man page of smbclient
[10:28] <piedoggie> which package do I need to install for mkinitrd?
[10:28] <jasongrieves> Veinos sudo allows to be "root" to edit something
[10:28] <trappist> piedoggie: initrdtools iirc
[10:28] <Veinos> not scared of hackers for now... since i'm trying to make my wireless to work :)
[10:28] <Simira> cdubya : Ubuntu doesn't allow me to manually name printers. It's just "producer - model"
[10:28] <piedoggie> thanks
[10:29] <jasongrieves> Veinos and then back to your user when its closed
[10:29] <jasongrieves> Veinos i dont blame you :) just fying
[10:29] <trappist> piedoggie: initrd-tools
[10:29] <Ep|phany> does anyone know a good program to hide my ip?
[10:29] <trappist> Ep|phany: from whom
[10:29] <piedoggie> thaks
[10:29] <maria> ompaul, how can I get your information to work? do I have to type it in a terminal?
[10:29] <Ep|phany> no just to hide it on the interent kinda
[10:29] <raul> hola
[10:30] <trappist> Ep|phany: you have to connect through a proxy to do that
[10:30] <_jason> Ep|phany, use a proxy
[10:30] <ompaul> !tell maria about ndiswrapper
[10:31] <ompaul> maria, try the card first incase it has native support then you just click on System - Administration - Networking
[10:31] <Stormx2> How do I copy all files in a directory to another directory?
[10:31] <Ep|phany> are there any program that grabs proxys randonmly and like a separate gui
[10:31] <sethk> Stormx2, cp -av
[10:31] <sethk> Stormx2, for example,   cp -av /x/y/z/. /a/b/.
[10:31] <sethk> Stormx2, or, to the current directory, cp -av /x/y/z/. .
[10:31] <Baorc> Aright still no luck with AMD64 and wireless...
[10:31] <sethk> stock, note the dots, they are part of the command
[10:32] <Veinos> whatever command i do, it ends with errors :(
[10:32] <sethk> Stormx2, sorry stock, I meant storm2, the dots are part of the command
[10:32] <Baorc> Can anyone help me with this (AMD64 + wireless
[10:32] <sethk> Stormx2, the v part just means verbose, but I like to use it and see what's happening
[10:32] <Veinos> (Baorc): i,m in the same situation :(
[10:32] <Baorc> yeah its annoying, what mother board do you have?
[10:32] <cdubya> Simira, just tested it and I added an identical printer and the print manager just assigns the second instance with a -1 in it's name to keep it unique
[10:32] <maria> ompaul, the card appears, but how can I configure the hardware to ensure it works? It's market as not configured..
[10:32] <Ep|phany> how do i use a proxy wirth mozilla
[10:33] <Ep|phany> firefox
[10:33] <_jason> Ep|phany, edit -> prefs -> general -> conneciton settings
[10:33] !lilo:*! Hi all. Please be aware that we've resolved a number of issues resulting in spurious clonebot bans on Tor users. Freenode supports Tor, and you should feel free to use it while you're here. Thanks!
[10:33] <johnny___> is ther a peogram like neo trace but for linux
[10:33] <DarkO> What is general support for 64 bit drivers in Breezer?
[10:34] <johnny___> ettherape
[10:34] <amparo_pzzi> some program to pass avi to vcd?????
[10:34] <mcphail> LjL: well done on the howto
[10:35] <johnsie2k> !java
[10:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:35] <LjL> mcphail: thanks, i saw you added some info too
[10:35] <levander> Nobody has seen instructions on how to copy the partitions that contain your linux system to another disk, and then to run that system off the other disk have they?
[10:35] <eternalist> Is there a utility similar to PowerStrip for linux
[10:35] <matty66> morning all
[10:35] <maria> ompaul, how do I know it has native support?
[10:35] <ompaul> maria, try it
[10:35] <eternalist> Meaning, is there a utility where you can press certain keycombos to get a higher gamma
[10:36] <eternalist> i know on windows, i can press Ctrl+alt++ or - to get a higher gamma or lower
[10:36] <Nico_1981> levander, i have found sth that may interest you: in kernel config, you can type a suffix to add to the kernel version name (like 2.6.14.3-mykernel)
[10:36] <eternalist> sometimes i need to adjust the brightness, and i find it handy to do it that way
[10:36] <lord_drachenblut> hey all
[10:36] <trappist> eternalist: I use a gamma plugin for gkrellm
[10:36] <levander> Nico_1981: that is cool, i'll do that next time
[10:36] <eternalist> does it accept keyboard shortcuts?
[10:36] <Nico_1981> levander, with this you may be able to use make install
[10:36] <eternalist> and whats it called?
[10:37] <levander> Nico_1981: that documentation I wanted on the linux kernel Makefile, you type 'make help' and all the doc.'s are there
[10:37] <johnny___> is there a program for linux that is like neo trace
[10:37] <Nico_1981> levander, it is in config > general setp > local version
[10:37] <Stormx2> What should I do once i've accidently deleted all content in my /usr/share/pixmaps directory?
[10:37] <Stormx2> >.>
[10:37] <lord_drachenblut> anyone got a few to try to help me figure out a small problem
[10:37] <trappist> eternalist: it's called gkrellm-gamma and I don't think it takes keyboard shortcuts but it's quite handy.  if you know of a console app that will adjust gamma you could map keys to it
[10:37] <Veinos> what does it means when i have a big X in the up right corner of the icon of a file?
[10:38] <matty66> hi all, i'm really new to linux and ubuntu, i'm trying to set up apache on it; i type "./configure prefix=/usr/local/apache2" and i get the error message "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" i have very little idea what i'm doing, can anyone help me past this error please?
[10:38] <Veinos> it's a .gz
[10:38] <trappist> matty66: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:38] <Stormx2> Seriously like, could someone tar up their /usr/share/pixmaps folder...
[10:38] <trappist> matty66: but why not just sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:38] <lord_drachenblut> i'm trying to get a usb headset to work with ubuntu and not sure what i need to do to get it up and running
[10:38] <administrator> so how is everyone doin
[10:38] <_jason> Stormx2, what happened
[10:38] <johnny___> hi
[10:38] <eternalist> trappist, yes, xgamma, but thats a lot of work lol
[10:38] <trappist> Stormx2: it's 9MB
[10:39] <matty66> trappist: i've never heard of "sudo apt-get install apache2" it hasn't been in any of the instructions i';ve read anywhere, what does it do?
[10:39] <mjr> Stormx2, well, you could check /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list files to see what packages install files into the pixmap directory, and reinstall those packages
[10:39] <Stormx2> _jason: I managed to copy some files accidently into /usr/share/pixmaps/./ And I went and did rm -rf /usr/share/pixmaps/./ and it deleted everything. Joy.
[10:39] <trappist> matty66: it installs apache2
[10:39] <Red-Sox> snorks: ?
[10:39] <johnny___> is there a program on linux that is a trace route bu plots the servers on a map????????
[10:39] <trappist> Stormx2: well done
[10:39] <_jason> Stormx2, heh could be worse :D  I'll tar mine up for you, do you have an email address? pm me
[10:40] <Stormx2> trappist: I know >.>
[10:40] <urbanfox[loyal] > johnny___, xtraceroute
[10:40] <johnny___> ::)
[10:40] <Baorc> Anyone got any luck installing wireless on AMD64?
[10:40] <urbanfox[loyal] > it's not in the ubuntu reps
[10:40] <matty66> trappist: i'll try it, but any idea how to fix the other issue?
[10:40] <Mabus06> how can I make an image to be used for an icon that isn't a rectangle... ie: say it's a circle, it wouldnt have white corners showing up on the icon
[10:40] <lord_drachenblut> ...
[10:40] <trappist> matty66: yeah, the thing I said before sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:40] <lord_drachenblut> guess knows the answer
[10:40] <Stormx2> Mabus06: Transparency?
[10:41] <Mabus06> Stormx2, uh, sure
[10:41] <trappist> Mabus06: it would have to be a rectangle with transparent corners
[10:41] <Mabus06> Stormx2, what program can I do this easiest with?
[10:41] <trappist> Mabus06: gimp
[10:41] <Stormx2> Mabus06: The GIMP
[10:41] <luisito> anyone please paste your sources.list in pastebin for me to check something, thanks
[10:42] <mjr> Stormx2, apt-get --reinstall install $(grep ^/usr/share/pixmaps /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -d : -f 1 | sed s:/var/lib/dpkg/info/:: | sed s:.list$:: | sort -u
[10:42] <Stormx2> mjr: O_O ok
[10:42] <johnny___> where would i get xtraceroute from
[10:42] <mjr> Stormx2, "should" reinstall all packages that have pixmaps installed ;)
[10:42] <trappist> Stormx2: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/pixmaps.tar.bz2
[10:42] <mjr> oops, lacking a ")" right at the end
[10:42] <Stormx2> mjr: That just got me to a bash prompt.
[10:42] <matty66> trappist: thanks, i'll go try it
[10:42] <shachaf> I can't get X to work using the ATI drivers (card is Radeon Xpress 200M) on Ubuntu 5.10. X aborts with signal 4 (SIGILL), but I can't see any (EE) lines. I do see 'Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found'. Has anyone else had this problem?
[10:43] <mjr> Stormx2, yeah, see above
[10:43] <Stormx2> mjr: With a little ">"
[10:43] <Stormx2> trappist: Thanks :D
[10:43] <Mabus06> Stormx2, so how can I make the gimp turn all the white pixels to be transparent? I'm spankin' new to gimp.
[10:43] <dv> how do i get ubuntu to act as a nat gateway?
[10:44] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> How do i install newest Firefox?
[10:44] <Mabus06> read /topic
[10:44] <trappist> dv: www.linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[10:44] <odat> anyone have any problems with lcd screens when starting up your computer
[10:44] <Stormx2> Mabus06: Use the "magic wand" and select the white, then go Select > Invert, then Copy, Then Paste as new image
[10:44] <Mabus06> (you can't I think, gimmulF|GoAGNES )
[10:45] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> Mabus06:  I meant is it ok installing it manually?
[10:45] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> working fine e.t.c ...
[10:45] <odat> when is start up ubuntu the splach screen while ubuntu is loading is off to the left and not centered   not sure how to fix this
[10:45] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, yes works fine for me but it's unsupported so you do it at your own risk
[10:45] <urbanfox[loyal] > odat, is this a laptop?
[10:45] <mwe> gimmulF|GoAGNES: there is a wiki. it works fine
[10:45] <mwe> !firefox15
[10:45] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> _jason: java works?
[10:45] <ubotu> [firefox15]  see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[10:45] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> mwe:  where's it?
[10:45] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, yes
[10:45] <odat> UrbanFox, no its a desktop
[10:45] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> thanks
[10:45] <dv> trappist, thanks
[10:46] <urbanfox[loyal] > odat, oh, then I wouldn't know... but check if your BIOS has a display stretch option or something like that
[10:46] <urbanfox[loyal] > and enable it
[10:46] <urbanfox[loyal] > that fixed it on my laptop at least
[10:46] <ying> Hello, everybody. I have just finished the ubuntu installation and when I tried to install kdevelop3, it reported that there was unmet dependencies. Anyone has an idea? thanks.
[10:47] <odat> UrbanFox, did you have the same symptom?
[10:47] <SteveW> soundray, i tink i got it figured out
[10:47] <johnsie2k> is firefox 1.5 worth the update?
[10:47] <SteveW> soundray, i wasn't setting the software raid up under a primary partition
[10:48] <DarkO> johnsie2k, sure is!
[10:49] <theD3viL> DarkO, why ?
[10:49] <DarkO> Faster,new futures, better popup blocking ...
[10:49] <johnsie2k> but i cant apt get it right?
[10:49] <cdubya> johnny___, sudo apt-get install xt
[10:50] <johnny___> nice one dude :)
[10:50] <_jason> johnsie2k, right
[10:50] <maria> ompaul, you're my hero!! Ubuntu installed the card and I only had to insert the correct key for the wlan-encryption. That was it. Just great, I really start to love Ubuntu and now I'm ready to forget all about $indows =D
[10:50] <cdubya> johnny___, it will be kinda buried in the applications menu, though...hang on
[10:50] <johnsie2k> dang
[10:51] <ompaul> maria, I am no hero, but thanks all the same, you did the work :-)
[10:51] <cdubya> johnny___, Applications > Debian > System > xt
[10:52] <Techie_dude> i need to set up my printer and i can't get it to work......any help
[10:52] <Techie_dude> can some one please help?
[10:52] <cdubya> Techie_dude, what's the problem
[10:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell Techie_dude about print
[10:53] <johnny___> no woz i just open it from konsole
[10:53] <Techie_dude> i tried to print a page ant it just wont work
[10:53] <shachaf> I can't get X to work using the ATI drivers (card is Radeon Xpress 200M) on Ubuntu 5.10. X aborts with signal 4 (SIGILL), but I can't see any (EE) lines. I do see 'Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found'. Has anyone else encountered this problem, and if so, how did they solve it?
[10:53] <johnny___> hello any pedo's here?
[10:54] <trappist> johnny___: what?
[10:54] <cdubya> Techie_dude, what kind of printer?
[10:54] <Ep|phany> are there any anomity programs for ubuntu
[10:54] <johnny___> lol not me dont worry friends stole my laptop
[10:54] <johnsie2k> hahaha
[10:54] <nass> Hello
[10:54] <maria> ompaul, I wouldn't have done it without your help.. I'm so happy to know I can get the help I need right here! Linux is just great and that's all thanks to you guys!! Kiss to all of you. cu
[10:55] <johnsie2k> what is the best java?
[10:55] <trappist> ompaul: man I'm jealous
[10:55] <nass> Could someone help me with ATI drivers ? I read all I found, but it still does not work
[10:55] <Techie_dude> darn my printer isn't even on the list
[10:55] <odat> when starting up ubuntu the splash screen while ubuntu is loading is off to the left and not centered   not sure how to fix this
[10:56] <_jason> Techie_dude, check linuxprinting.org, that list is just created by users
[10:56] <jonnyt> hey folks I have a question
[10:56] <shachaf> nass: What card are you using?
[10:56] <jonnyt> What would happen if I try and cp a file thats currently downloading?
[10:56] <nass> I use ATI mobility radeon 9000
[10:56] <jonnyt> will it copy where its up to? or become garbled?
[10:57] <shachaf> nass: I'm having trouble getting this Radeon Xpress 200M working, too.
[10:57] <_jason> jonnyt, copy where it is up to
[10:57] <Mabus06> how can I check what broswer I'm using? (versoin, specifically)
[10:57] <trappist> metzen: help => about
[10:57] <shachaf> nass: What error message does X give?
[10:57] <trappist> err
[10:57] <jonnyt> _jason, what if its a large file 300Mb/750 downloaded, and you then copy
[10:58] <trappist> Mabus06: help => about
[10:58] <jonnyt> because its gonna take a long time to copy
[10:58] <jonnyt> and by the time its near done some more would of downloaded
[10:58] <nass> shachaf, it says that kernel driver version does not match....
[10:58] <nass> (about fglrx)
[10:58] <adjacent> hmm. when attempting to install eclipse, apt wants to install mozilla-browser. i have firefox, how do i use that to meet the dependency?
[10:58] <emil> !nvidia
[10:58] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:58] <shachaf> nass: You're using ATI's drivers?
[10:58] <_jason> jonnyt, i'd suggest you try it, but I've done it on ~100mb size files and it just copies what it is up to.
[10:59] <nass> yes, I tried the ones with ubuntu, and the latest from ATI, none work
[10:59] <jonnyt> thanks jason
[10:59] <ompaul> trappist, why?
[10:59] <shachaf> nass: What version of the drivers, 8.19.10?
[10:59] <Napo> I have upgraded my machine from hoary to breezy and now my nvidia driver are very very slow
[11:00] <nass> shachaf, yes
[11:00] <trappist> ompaul: there's like 3 chicks on the whole internet using linux, and you got one lovin all over you
[11:00] <Techie_dude> ...what is the command to unpack tar.gz files?
[11:00] <urbanfox[loyal] > Techie_dude, tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[11:00] <trappist> tar zxf file.tar.gz
[11:00] <shachaf> Techie_dude: "tar -xzvf".
[11:00] <Seveas> Techie_dude, tar zxf filename.tar.gz
[11:01] <trappist> got that covered I gues
[11:01] <ompaul> trappist, :-)
[11:01] <nass> shachaf, kernel module is said to be 8.16.20
[11:01] <nass> at x server startup....
[11:01] <shachaf> nass: Do you make a .deb, or install directly?
[11:02] <nass> direct install, automatic
[11:02] <johnny___> i try to scan a site in xtrace it shows the site up but dosent plot it up on the map
[11:02] <shachaf> nass: Hmm, I've had better luck with making .debs.
[11:02] <shachaf> nass: Try that, maybe it'll work.
[11:02] <Stormx2> *sigh* gettings my icons back..... sloowly
[11:02] <anavim> what terminals support copy/paste, besides gnome-terminal and konsole?
[11:02] <nass> shachaf, yes, but which version ? moreover, the list is too big and don't fit in my screen.....
[11:03] <jeffisageek> ok i have a question...is there a way to upgrade to firefox 1.5 via synaptic?
[11:03] <Techie_dude> and how do i do a ppd.gz file
[11:03] <trappist> Stormx2: didn't I give you a giant stack of icons?
[11:03] <_jason> jeffisageek, /topic
[11:03] <trappist> Techie_dude: gunzip
[11:03] <shachaf> nass: From the list, choose Ubuntu if you can see it.
[11:03] <ompaul> jeffisageek, that was a no
[11:03] <shachaf> nass: It's the last option.
[11:03] <Plagued> anyone use vsftpd?
[11:03] <jeffisageek> _jason, thanks :D
[11:03] <jeffisageek> need to learn to read
[11:04] <Stormx2> trappist: Yep, but I have some apps you didn't have. Only a couple.
[11:04] <trappist> aight then
[11:04] <nass> there seems to be several version for ubuntu, I can only see the upper aprt of the first
[11:05] <shachaf> nass: The last option is 5.10.
[11:05] <shachaf> nass: So just press the down arrow until you get there, I guess.
[11:05] <shachaf> nass: Then <SPACE><ENTER>.
[11:06] <shachaf> nass: By the way, did you ever get horizontal lines on the screen after starting X?
[11:06] <nass> no, never
[11:07] <shachaf> nass: Hmm.
[11:07] <nass> and the keyboards shortcuts do not work
[11:07] <shachaf> nass: Keyboard shortcuts?
[11:07] <shachaf> nass: What do you mean?
[11:07] <mp3guy> is there a way to print screen in xfce?
[11:07] <Otis> why does gcc -v show version 4.0 even after I've done apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?
[11:07] <trappist> mp3guy: import -window root file.png
[11:08] <Otis> do I have to uninstall gcc-4.0 altogether ?
[11:08] <airox> Otis: change gcc symlink to direct to gcc-3.4.
[11:08] <Stormx2> There
[11:08] <trappist> Otis: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 or use update-alternatives
[11:08] <theCore> how do i make a backup of my GPG private key?
[11:08] <Stormx2> All my icons are back.
[11:08] <Otis> airox: that shounds like a good idea
[11:08] <Otis> thx
[11:08] <trappist> theCore: cp
[11:08] <airox> Otis: do what trappist suggeste
[11:08] <airox> d
[11:08] <cafuego> theCore: copy ~/.gnupg to a safe location.
[11:08] <Otis> trappist: thx for the tip
[11:08] <Veinos> :(
[11:08] <Techie_dude> and what command do i use with install files
[11:08] <Seveas> theCore, cp ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg /path/to/backup
[11:08] <theCore> thx
[11:09] <nass> shachaf, space - enter
[11:09] <cafuego> note SAFE location
[11:09] <Red-Sox> snorks: hi
[11:09] <Baorc> I got troubles with AMD64 and wireless, can anyone help?
[11:09] <Veinos> i installed ndiswrapper, and my wireless driver, when i check it with -l, it says; invalid drivers!
[11:09] <Veinos> what can i do??
[11:09] <Baorc> Veinos, what did you use to install the drivers&
[11:09] <Techie_dude> what command do i use with .install files
[11:09] <Red-Sox> mumblesatccna: hi
[11:09] <shachaf> nass: Hmm.
[11:09] <Baorc> ?
[11:09] <trappist> Baorc: you've been saying that all day.  you might have better luck asking an actual, specific question.
[11:09] <Veinos> ndiswrapper
[11:10] <Baorc> ok trappist : drivers for my wireless are installed but it wont show up in network tools
[11:10] <Red-Sox> stijn: hi
[11:10] <Baorc> basically can't configure it and it doesn't show up anywhere
[11:10] <shachaf> nass: It looks like you can run this script on the command line.
[11:11] <Baorc> wlan0 is non-existant
[11:11] <Veinos> baorc, did you check if the drivers are properly installed?
[11:11] <alekz> how can i set a connection using a wireless device if is connected by usb ?
[11:11] <Veinos> what is your card?
[11:11] <Baorc> yeah i did
[11:11] <Siph0n> neone here have a NEC dvd burner?
[11:11] <Baorc> its an onboard Asus A8v-e deluxe, its a marvell card
[11:11] <mumblesatccna> networke died
[11:12] <Baorc> ndiswrapper -l gives : driver present, hardware present
[11:12] <Techie_dude> Does anyone know what command i use with .install files
[11:12] <Siph0n> K3b says my dvd is buring at 4-6X, and its an 8X dvd burner.... ne reason? :)
[11:12] <Siph0n> dvds are 8x also
[11:12] <Siph0n> lol i think
[11:12] <Veinos> ok
[11:12] <nass> shachaf, I'm trying from command line
[11:12] <Siph0n> k yea
[11:12] <Siph0n> actually its a 16x burner
[11:12] <Veinos> can't help ya, i know nothing :) just trying to get those drivers working first
[11:13] <Veinos> if i get further, i'll let you know
[11:13] <Baorc> which card do you have?
[11:13] <shachaf> nass: Try ./ati[...]  --buildpkg Ubuntu/5.10.
[11:13] <shachaf> nass: (If you're running 5.10.)
[11:14] <trappist> Baorc: I don't think ndiswrapper works on amd64
[11:14] <Baorc> ive seen some successes
[11:14] <Baorc> but not with the same card
[11:14] <trappist> somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but it wants to use win32 (as in 32 bit) drivers
[11:14] <Baorc> they were broadcomm cards or something
[11:14] <nass> make: dh_testdir : commande introuvable
[11:14] <nass> make: *** [configure]  Erreur 127
[11:14] <Techie_dude> I can't make odds from ends out of this driver thing.....is there a way i can configure my lexmark x75 fom the computer itself
[11:14] <Baorc> oh i gave it 32bit drivers
[11:14] <nass> shachaf, it does not work neither
[11:14] <Baorc> and i also tried with my 64bit ones
[11:15] <Baorc> both installed correctly
[11:15] <ying> hello, I have just finished the installation of ubuntu 5.10, and tried to install kde. But it reports some problems on dependency. Anyone can help me! thanks a lot
[11:15] <shachaf> nass: Did you install the .debs?
[11:15] <Veinos> i got a broadcom on 64bit ubuntu and can't install the drivers ;(
[11:15] <shachaf> nass: Is the error different?
[11:15] <Baorc> i tried them at different times, but they still wouldn't show up in network tools or wouldnt be added anyways
[11:15] <nass> how I get the .debs ?
[11:15] <Baorc> Veinos : this is for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[11:15] <alej> i just installed ubuntu on a pII, but it loaded my machine with gnome..and is to heavy for it, how can i uninstall all gnome?
[11:16] <alej> is there a clean way of doing it?
[11:16] <Baorc> Veinos : also check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78442.html
[11:16] <Ribs> alej: Do a 'server' install, then you'll get a prompt a little else, you can install what you want from there.
[11:16] <shachaf> nass: Running the script with "--buildpkg Ubuntu/5.10" should generate them.
[11:16] <mjr> alej, if you're not too short on disk space, just install a lighter alternative and use it instead
[11:16] <Natdigga_> ok.  I downloaded wine now what do I do to use it :)
[11:16] <shachaf> nass: Are you running 5.10, by the way?
[11:16] <blackraven14250> I accidentally configured grub to boot from the wrong partition, how can I change is permanently?
[11:17] <nass> shachaf, yes, 5.10
[11:17] <alej> oke, but its installed already
[11:17] <Techie_dude> Baorc: is there a way i can configure my lexmark x75 printer with ubuntu without having to install drivers
[11:17] <ying> Hello, anyone hear me?
[11:17] <alej> so i shall reinstall all?
[11:17] <Veinos> (Baorc): thanks, i'll checkthis out
[11:17] <shachaf> nass:nass: Are the .debs generated when you run the script?
[11:17] <nass> shachaf, but the script hangs and does not generate .debs
[11:17] <alej> or is there a way to just wipe gnome?
[11:17] <Veinos> even though i think i being there before :)
[11:17] <Ribs> alej: That's the easiest way I can think of
[11:17] <alej> Ribs, ok, thnk
[11:17] <Ribs> alej: you could apt-get remove everything...
[11:17] <Ribs> but I dunno how many packages gnome has
[11:17] <nass> make: dh_testdir : commande introuvable --> error 27*
[11:17] <Baorc> Techie_dude : I don't think I'm the guy to be asking that, I helped Veinos because I have the same problem and have been researching for weeks on this subject, so I wouldn't know
[11:18] <alekz> anyone has a repository to get firefox 1.5 ?
[11:18] <nass> make: dh_testdir : commande introuvable --> error 127 (excuse)
[11:18] <Techie_dude> oh
[11:18] <Baorc> sorry, lol
[11:18] <Baorc> but if I had to take a guess, I would say no
[11:18] <shachaf> nass: Hangs?
[11:18] <alej> Ribs, everything named gnome  from the dpkg -L list?
[11:18] <shachaf> nass: It just takes a while, did you ^C it?
[11:19] <nass> no, it stops by itself !
[11:19] <shachaf> nass: And ls doesn't show any .debs?
[11:19] <mjr> alej, apt-get remove libgnome2-0 should remove most of the gnome stuff (since most of it depends on it), if you really want to remove it
[11:19] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> Wtf, i copied .mozilla-thunderbird/ from my last ubuntu installation and now replaced the new .mozilla-thunderbird/ dir with my backup after a clean installation but it wnt start
[11:20] <nass> no, nothing
[11:20] <alej> mjr thanks
[11:20] <cdubya> Techie_dude, wish I could help, but I've found, just as in my case (have an x3300 series on an OS X box that I'd like to spool to), but I don't have the drivers, nor will there be likely....
[11:21] <blackraven14250> excuse me, does anyone know how to change grub to boot from a different partition, and make the change permanent?
[11:21] <Ribs> blackraven14250: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <Ribs> or use gedit if you prefer
[11:21] <ashley3452> hi, can somone help me out please. I want to track down where a deamon(nvtvd) is being started from, should I used a big grep or is there a better way ?
[11:22] <Ribs> You'd need to read up on grub-speak tho
[11:22] <derek> bye
[11:22] <Ribs> I'm a little rusty myself
[11:22] <blackraven14250> ok, i've been editing it manually, think it's about the same?
[11:22] <Paradosso> what font do you use in terminal?
[11:22] <conn> hi, does anyone here use freenx? How can I made the server change the fonts to 96x96dpi (it's set to 75 by default)?
[11:23] <Ribs> blackraven14250: The method I gave you is editing manually
[11:23] <Ribs> saving the file wll make the changes permanent, as you wanted.
[11:23] <calamari> blackraven: default         0
[11:23] <blackraven14250> i mean, i've been editing it manually from within grub, so it won't save changes
[11:23] <nass> shachaf, It was debhelper missing..... now it goes further..... working on it
[11:23] <calamari> blackraven14250: I'm pretty sure changing that 0 to the correct entry is what you want
[11:23] <shachaf> nass: Oh, right, I forgot that I installed those packages.
[11:24] <ashley3452> hi, can somone help me out please. I want to track down where a deamon(nvtvd) is being started from, should I used a big grep or is there a better way ?
[11:24] <nass> shachaf, and fakeroot...... how I get it ?
[11:24] <Ribs> nass: sudo apt-get install ...
[11:24] <shachaf> nass: fakeroot, debhelper, build-essential, make, module-assistant, gcc-3.4.
[11:24] <Red-Sox> snorks: r u there?
[11:24] <trappist> ashley3452: if you didn't start it manually, grep -r nvtvd /etc/init.d
[11:24] <shachaf> nass: apt-get install fakeroot, debhelper, build-essential, make, module-assistant, gcc-3.4.
[11:25] <nass> Ribs, thx. I realised it was easy only after asking.....
[11:25] <maxi> hola
[11:25] <maxi> alguien habla espaol
[11:25] <trappist> !es
[11:25] <shachaf> nass: Oops, sudo apt-get, sorry.
[11:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:25] <PokerFacePenguin> blackraven14250: if you want to, u can make it boot a different partition by default by moving it to the top of the list as well (when editing the menu.lst)
[11:25] <blackraven14250> thankls alot ribs, gonna see if it works now
[11:25] <maxi> como me conecto a ubuntu-es
[11:25] <maxi> ??
[11:26] <trappist> maxi: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:26] <maxi> okas
[11:26] <ashley3453> testing .
[11:26] <luisito> why in breezy the mail command doesn't work?
[11:26] <ashley3453> can anyone here me,...
[11:26] <jesseman_> ashley3453: you mean hear ? :)
[11:26] <_jason> ashley3453, I can read what you are typing
[11:27] <hlen> ashley3453, you can find out which package owns the binary, then see which script it's got installed
[11:27] <ashley3453> thanks guys, this client greys out my text, makes it look like its not actually being sent
[11:28] <shachaf> ashley3453: What client?
[11:28] <levander> How damn long does it take to compile the kernel?  It's been running half an hour on a dual processor, pentium iii 550 already.
[11:28] <hlen> ashley3453, dpkg -S $(which nvtvd)
[11:28] <ashley3453> x-chat
[11:28] <luisito> the mail command was eliminated?
[11:28] <ying> excuse me, anyone hear me??
[11:28] <navarone> ashely> xchat greys your text so that you see what you have types previously
[11:28] <Red-Sox> ying: what did you say?
[11:28] <eternalist> ET is the shiz
[11:28] <eternalist> what are cool games ar efor linux i wonder
[11:28] <ashley3453> hlen,  nvtv: /usr/sbin/nvtvd is the response, but i kinda already knew that
[11:28] <shachaf> nass: Is it working?
[11:29] <hlen> ashley3453, dpkg -L nvtv
[11:29] <ashley3453> where woul i alter the command line paramters for that daemon ?
[11:29] <nass> shachaf, yes, I've got the .deb
[11:29] <ashley3453> ahhh got ya
[11:29] <ashley3453> /etc/init.d/nvtv
[11:29] <nass> another stupid question...... the .deb, how do I install it ?
[11:29] <levander> nass: 'dpkg -i <filename>.deb'
[11:30] <ying> thanks. It is the first time I am here, just to make sure others can see me. I have just installed ubuntu5.1 but is unable to install KDE due to some dependency problem, do you know why?
[11:30] <navarone> nass...cd to directory it was downloaded to and in terminal type sudo dpkg -i <name>.deb
[11:30] <mr_daemon> hell there. Does anyone has any experience with Maxtor OneTouch drives?
[11:30] <mr_daemon> .... hello.
[11:30] <mr_daemon> Not hell.
[11:30] <hlen> heh
[11:31] <ashley3453> hlen, thanks for your help
[11:31] <hlen> ashley3453, sure thing
[11:31] <luisito> nobody knows nothing about what happened to the mail command!?
[11:31] <nass> levander, navarone thanks
[11:31] <hlen> luisito, you probably don't have your smtp setup right
[11:31] <navarone> np nass
[11:31] <mr_daemon> I was actually wondering if anyone got the said OneTouch button on the front of the drive to work...
[11:32] <paul__> I'm following a howto on installing Mythtv on Ubuntu and running into a problem compiling the ivtv drivers for Hauppage PVR-350. Is there some GCC version weirdness I should know about?
[11:32] <nass> shachaf, which .deb should I install ? I installed only xorg-driver-fglrx_8.19.10-1_i386, that's enough ?
[11:32] <shachaf> nass: I installed all of them.
[11:32] <ashley3453> damn ok thats not actually gonna fix my problem
[11:32] <Red-Sox> snorks: hi
[11:32] <ashley3453> does anyone know much about nvtv and tv out ?
[11:33] <luisito> hlen, it isn't that. Is that the mail command doesn't exists when I write it in the terminal
[11:33] <nass> shachaf, done. I reboot to give it a try, and report back here !
[11:33] <nasimuto> is there a command line utility which can load a string to paste ?
[11:33] <nasimuto> i.e i run a command and after running it i can paste something anywhere in X
[11:33] <luisito> hlen, that's not right
[11:33] <paul__> I did apt-get install build-essential and apt-get install linux-headers-386 but when I type make in the ivtv directory I get errors like this: make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[11:33] <shachaf> nass: Why reboot?
[11:33] <PokerFacePenguin> luisito: i run breezy, and CLI mail works for me
[11:34] <nass> shachaf, there's an other way ?
[11:34] <shachaf> nass: I don't see why a reboot would be necessary.
[11:34] <Orporg> Can someone help me get my WiFi network working with Ubuntu please?
[11:34] <hlen> luisito, try ``whereis mail''.. maybe you need the mailx package?
[11:34] <luisito> PokerFacePenguin, hmmm, then I don't have it.... so strange...
[11:34] <navarone> nass...you only need to restart x server
[11:35] <markVisiting> I'm on breezy/badger and I can't get cups-pdf to work. I have the cups-pdf.conf file installed. I get a 'failed to set file mode for PDF file' error in the cups-pdf_log file. Anyone know the magic?
[11:35] <navarone> ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:35] <ashley3453> Orporg, possibly whats wrong with it atm ?
[11:35] <nass> navarone, that's cool..... just need to learn how !
[11:35] <shachaf> navarone: X isn't working for nass (or me).
[11:35] <luisito> hlen, lets see...
[11:35] <Orporg> I'm not sure.  The card seems to be detected and working fine and I have my WEP key and other goodies configured.  I just can't seem to connect to the Internet
[11:35] <ispiked> when I try to access my shared samba files on this linux box from windows, I get prompted for a password. my password for my user on the linux box doens't work.
[11:35] <navarone> nass...try typing startx at terminal prompt
[11:35] <nass> shachaf, yes, it is, but not with ATI proprietary drivers
[11:36] <navarone> nass...okay...then restart x after closing programs
[11:36] <ashley3453> i would suggest checking the IP address settings then
[11:36] <ashley3453> do you have a router with dhcp ?
[11:36] <shachaf> nass: I thought you said it didn't.
[11:36] <nass> navarone, but how to do that ?
[11:36] <shachaf> nass: I must have misunderstood you.
[11:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: u there?
[11:36] <Orporg> The IP is set to DHCP, which is how my access point hands them out
[11:36] <navarone> nass...i already told you ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:36] <shachaf> nass: You're running from X?
[11:36] <ashley3453> can you ping your access point
[11:37] <Orporg> No, I tried
[11:37] <nass> shachaf, yes, from X. navarone oops, didn't se, sorry
[11:37] <luisito> hlen, no, I don't have it..
[11:37] <tk401> hello all
[11:37] <ashley3453> then perhaps you are not set up at the wifi layer
[11:37] <hlen> ispiked, you need to setup your samba accounts. `man mksmbpasswd' and `man smbpasswd' will help you
[11:37] <tk401> can someone help with grub please?
[11:37] <hlen> luisito, apt-get install mailx?
[11:38] <ashley3453> how sure are you that the key is correct
[11:38] <ispiked> hlen: you're sure it's not something with the folder permissions?
[11:38] <luisito> hlen, it should be in /bin by default I think, right?
[11:38] <Orporg> Quite.  I used the same key on a Windows XP machine and my iBook and it worked
[11:38] <ashley3453> ok
[11:38] <hlen> ispiked, no. if you've set it up right, it could be *shrug*
[11:38] <tk401> i have kubuntu dapper drake installed on hda1 with grub in the MBR and I have breezy on hda3, but it want grub to load from menu.lst on hda3 not hda1
[11:38] <Orporg> The access point also broadcasts its ESSID, which isn't being picked up.  I put it in manually and still no good
[11:39] <ashley3453> so in netwroking your card is configured and active
[11:39] <Orporg> Yes
[11:39] <Orporg> And I looked at the Ubuntu wiki and surprisingly, it looks as if this card is supported right out of the box.
[11:40] <ashley3453> i can't recall what i had to do to get my card to work, but i think i had to compile modules and stuff, if yours is supported out of the box, you shouldnt have to do that
[11:40] <ying> Orporg: I have the similar problem minutes ago. And it does work after I deactive the wired ethe card.
[11:41] <Orporg> Ubuntu certainly found out a lot about it.  It does detect its maker and model perfectly.
[11:41] <Orporg> I don't have a wired card in there as well.  Just the wireless
[11:41] <ashley3453> yes is the wifi set as the gateway ?
[11:41] <ashley3453> nvm , must be
[11:41] <Passion> hi
[11:41] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: i would set a static ip on it and add a default route and test it that way
[11:41] <ispiked> hlen: alright. I got it setup for me. any reason /home/me is shared, too? I didn't tell it to do that.
[11:42] <Orporg> I don't think the access point will hand out static IPs
[11:42] <hlen> ispiked, i think [homes]  is shared by default in your smb.conf file.
[11:42] <Orporg> And if I turn off DHCP it'll bollocks up the rest of the machines using it
[11:43] <ispiked> hlen: is there a way to get this setup so people don't have to login?
[11:43] <tk401> can someone help with grub please?
[11:43] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: if you are using private addressing with your router, then you probably arent handing out the entire range of possible ips....set it outside of the dhcp lease pool
[11:43] <cjfs> hi!
[11:43] <shachaf> nass: Nass, I think I got it working.
[11:43] <hlen> ispiked, probably. i have no experience with that though
[11:44] <nass> shachaf, yes !!!
[11:44] <shachaf> nass: Try running "fglrxconfig".
[11:44] <nass> I think it is still not good for me
[11:44] <Orporg> I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.  It's a pretty simple access point.
[11:44] <nass> fglrxinfo says : OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[11:44] <Orporg> I know it can't do MAC address filtering
[11:44] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: is it finding the AP?
[11:44] <shachaf> nass: fglrxconfig, not fglrxinfo.
[11:44] <Sanne> tk401: better describe your problem, so anybody who knows hoe to help can just jump in :)
[11:44] <JptrDuo> hey when's Firefox 1.5 and OOo 2.0 stable (not beta) gonna be in breezy backports?
[11:44] <shachaf> nass: Do you have that?
[11:45] <ying> Orporg: r u able to ping the router?
[11:45] <Mabus06> To anyone who's interested; Firefox 1.5 is signifigantly faster than the old version. However, it makes the layout of many pages very screwy. And they say they improved popup support, but on this one site I never used to get popups, and now I do so...
[11:45] <Orporg> No, not as far as I can tell.  And I can't ping it.  I even used the "iwconfig" scan thing.  Nothing turned up
[11:45] <nass> shachaf, yes
[11:45] <Orporg> I'm using said access point with mIRC right now, so I know it's working
[11:45] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: sudo dhclient  in a terminal window
[11:45] <tk401> please help with GRUB: i have kubuntu dapper drake installed on hda1 with grub in the MBR and I have breezy on hda3, but it want grub to load from menu.lst on hda3 not hda1
[11:45] <JptrDuo> heh that's they get for majorly redoing CSS
[11:45] <shachaf> nass: Run that, and it'll make another xorg.conf.
[11:45] <Sanne> Mabus06: in what way does Firefox 1.5 makes pages layout screwy?
[11:46] <PokerFacePenguin> oh, its not recog..nvrmnd
[11:46] <shachaf> nass: Make a backup of your old one first.
[11:46] <Mabus06> Sanne, there are buttons in this one page I frequent. They now all overlap each other.
[11:46] <Orporg> All right
[11:46] <Orporg> I am getting a string of data that seems to continually update itself
[11:46] <Sanne> Mabus06: usually those effects are due to crappy HTML, as Firefox is one of the most standards compliant browser. Can I have a look at the page?
[11:47] <hlen> tk401, what i'd try to do is let grub use hda1 and merge the relevant sections from (hda3)/path/to/menu.lst to (hda1)/path/to/menu.lst. but that's me.
[11:47] <Mabus06> Sanne, actually no, you can't. The buttons appear after the login screen and it takes up to 2 days to get your account verified.
[11:47] <vasc> hello. i was trying to compile alsa following the instructions here: http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=11465&st=0&p=110775&#entry110775
[11:47] <nass> shachaf, I don't think it'll help, because there is still the same message in xorg.log : Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[11:47] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> Whats the best way installing java?
[11:47] <Sanne> Mabus06: oh, bummer. I'm interested because I'm a webdeveloper myself and am supposed to know about those things ;)
[11:48] <vasc> but i get this error: "You don't have the compiler that your kernel was built with installed
[11:48] <vasc> ". btw i am using kubuntu breezy here.
[11:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell gimmulF|GoAGNES about javadebs
[11:48] <tk401> hlen: thank you, dapper drake setup already did that, but since i use breezy mainly, i wanted to take advantage of automatic grub menu entries for new kernels
[11:48] <Orporg> It says: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[11:48] <Orporg> And No DHCPOFFERS received.
[11:48] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: what does ifconfig say?
[11:49] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> _jason:  dpkg -i on all thoose packages?
[11:49] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, no
[11:49] <Mabus06> Sanne, I could show you the source code for that page but it's in PHP so I don't know if the part that's causing the error is viewable to me or whatever
[11:49] <Orporg> For wlan0 it says: Link encap: Ethernet. Scope: Link, etc.  And no packets have been exchanged.
[11:50] <JptrDuo> Anyone have any idea of when Firefox 1.5 is gonna be in backports, unless the packages from mozilla.com will seamlessly integrate their available install into apt/dpkg?
[11:50] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: does it say up?
[11:50] <ispiked> hlen: do I need to run any command to update changes I made to smb.conf? restart the server possibly?
[11:50] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, just the jre
[11:50] <Orporg> Yes.  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500
[11:50] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, unless you want the sdk... then you would do that
[11:50] <Sanne> Mabus06: you could just do a page/save as in firefox and paste the html you will get from that somewhere. I would be very grateful.
[11:51] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> _jason:  that instals into firefox also?
[11:51] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, it should
[11:51] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: type route in a terminal window and see if you have routes to the router.
[11:51] <_z_> hello. i'm using hoary and just noticed something weird on mount: it seems "/dev" is mounted on "/.dev", anyone know what this might be?
[11:51] <Sanne> Mabus06: or even simpler: view page source, and paste that.
[11:51] <hlen> ispiked, yes
[11:51] <Orporg> None.
[11:51] <Mabus06> Sanne, yeah was gonna do the view source and pastebin
[11:51] <hlen> ispiked, killall -HUP smbd
[11:51] <Sanne> Mabus06: cool, thanks :)
[11:51] <qt2-2> does google video work with the current version of firefox packaged with ubuntu? x.x;
[11:52] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: sounds like dhcp not sending you an ip....could be router needs a reboot...mine hoses up like that sometimes
[11:52] <JptrDuo> I believe awhile ago google video was Windoze only, havent followed it for awhile tho
[11:52] <_jason> qt2-2, google video uses a flash player as long as flash works, it should work
[11:52] <Comrade_Vladimir> what type of file system does ubuntu run on fat32?
[11:52] <everton> i'm trying to install the "task-c-devel" package, but I couldn't find any server that has got this... could anybody help me? Do anybody know the line that I should write in sources.list do get it?
[11:52] <hlen> ispiked, i assume you've used testparm(1) already
[11:52] <Orporg> I actually ended up pulling the power and plugging it back in.  So it got a reboot
[11:52] <ispiked> hlen: that didn't feel to gracefull.
[11:52] <qt2> _jason, i know trat much, but it plays about have a second of video, no audio, and then jsut stops.
[11:52] <ispiked> hlen: my internet closed off for a second.
[11:52] <shachaf> nass: Hmm.
[11:53] <_jason> qt2, strange, I've viewed videos fine with it... is your flash player ok otherwise?
[11:53] <qt2> _jason, i can use the bar to seek and it'll pick up playing for another 1/2 a second, and it'll do the same thing, and stop again
[11:53] <nass> shachaf, still here ?
[11:53] <JptrDuo> qt2: are you using the macromedia installer or some OSS flash thing?
[11:53] <qt2> _jason, hm, any way i could test to see if flash is broken?
[11:53] <Orporg> I'm pretty sure DHCP isn't handing out an IP to Linux
[11:53] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: wait a min or two and issue the sudo dhclient wlan0
[11:53] <qt2> JptrDuo, i hoinestly dont remember ^.^;
[11:54] <_jason> qt2, do other flash things work ok?
[11:54] <JptrDuo> if firefox installed it "automatically" it's probably macromedia
[11:54] <Orporg> It's trying to discover again.  But nothings happening.
[11:55] <tk401> does anyone know how to change the /boot partition that grub uses?
[11:55] <_jason> qt2, how did you install flash?
[11:55] <qt2> _jason, dont remember, i tihnk it was with easu ubuntu or something.
[11:55] <qt2> _jason, in about:plugins, flash is listed twice though.
[11:55] <Red-Sox> bbiab
[11:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> i tried it with fat32 and ntfs which is it
[11:55] <erUSUL> !flash
[11:55] <ubotu> it has been said that flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:55] <qt2> one being libflashplayer.so, and the other being libflash-mozplugin.so
[11:55] <ispiked> hlen: will sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart work, too?
[11:56] <trinidad> anyone here have an i810 chipset working with breezy?
[11:56] <Mabus06> Sanne, http://pastebin.ca/32169
[11:56] <qt2> hm :/
[11:56] <Black_Hat> guys ive got a question
[11:56] <Orporg> Once again.  No IP discoveries
[11:56] <Sanne> Mabus06: thanks, looking now.
[11:56] <trinidad> Black_Hat,
[11:56] <trinidad> ?
[11:56] <Black_Hat> im running ubuntu on my ibook...
[11:56] <Trackilizer> !java
[11:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:56] <JptrDuo> trinidad: i810 what? video? audio?
[11:56] <Black_Hat> can i run ndiswrappers since its ppc?
[11:56] <shachaf> nass: X is working for me, and I think it's with the ATI drivers.
[11:56] <trinidad> JptrDuo, video
[11:57] <shachaf> nass: How would I find out?
[11:57] <trinidad> JptrDuo, with a 1905fp delll lcd
[11:57] <hlen> ispiked, yes
[11:57] <JptrDuo> i810 stuff works fine for me but it's not by any means gonna be as great as a dedicated video card since it's onboard
[11:57] <navarone> Comrade> Linux runs on ext2, ext3, reiser...fat32 and ntfs are windows file systems...although linux can access both. However ntfs will be read only in linux
[11:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> hello?
[11:57] <erUSUL> Black_Hat, no
[11:57] <JptrDuo> but mine's fine for planetpenguinracer (new tuxracer) and stuff
[11:57] <Mabus06> Sanne, it's the "show all" and "hide all" buttons that overlap. If you find something please let me know so I can forward it to the admins.
[11:57] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: that is why i would set a static ip....is the network running private addressing behind the router?  ie. 192.168.x.x
[11:57] <nass> shachaf, test with glxgears, you'll see if 3D acceleration works (ATI drivers) or not
[11:58] <Orporg> I don't know how to find out.
[11:58] <trinidad> JptrDuo, thats good to hear!  Everywhere I've read, there are problems with the i810 chipset and hoary with an lcd
[11:58] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: is it home or work lan?
[11:58] <johnny___> how do find the diffrents rooms in irc
[11:58] <johnny___> isit possible
[11:58] <trinidad> I have hoary and recently upgraded the monitor to an LCD 19" dell
[11:58] <_jason> qt2, hrmm I have mplayer-plugin playing "google video" in about:plugins... maybe that would help you.
[11:58] <alej> so i decided to leave gnome and its 200megas, but i will like to avoid it from launching after boot, what file do i have to edit to remain in console?
[11:58] <trinidad> like many, it is not working
[11:58] <JptrDuo> does it say the same stuff about breezy?
[11:58] <erUSUL> johnny___, /list
[11:59] <Orporg> Home.  The setup is as follows:  The DSL modem to goes a router.  An Ethernet cable snakes a long way to the access point.  The access point then broadcasts wireless signal.
[11:59] <johnny___> :)
[11:59] <navarone> johnny> in xchat go to windows/channel listings and refresh...you can alos filter the channels if you are looking for a particular one. Type in name and press enter in the "regex" field
[11:59] <trinidad> i have googled hi and low and have found nothing pertaining to breezy, however, iI did find that it mentions xorg having the issue but not hoary in particular
[11:59] <johnny___> im in console
[11:59] <trinidad> however, i have kubuntu 5.10 on another partition and it seems to work fine
[11:59] <shachaf> nass: glxgears is smooth for a second, and then it stops being smooth.
[11:59] <trinidad> I'm currently upgrading to breezy 5.10 as we speak
[12:00] <trinidad> hoefully all goes well