[03:12] <jacktherippe> hello 
[03:12] <jacktherippe> one  question plss   is  there  a  edubuntu  live cd  for  ppc  ?
[10:27] <juliux> ogra_, ping
[10:29] <lucasvo> hi
[10:30] <lucasvo> is there any way how to exchange ssh keys on ltsp client? I would like to use loopback ssh to ltsp client
[10:30] <lucasvo> with these commands: ssh -R 2000:localhost:22 user@A  && ssh -p 2000 user@localhost
[10:37] <lucasvo> ogra_: loopback ssh doesn't work well :(
[10:38] <lucasvo> I think it is  a problem of key handling/writing permission on ltsp client
[10:39] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ ssh -p 2000 lucasvo@localhost
[10:39] <lucasvo> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[10:39] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$
[12:00] <lucasvo> hm stupid buggy keyboard preferences
[01:45] <lucasvo> ogra_: what's the problem with not using ordinary vnc on ltsp clients?
[02:10] <Lord_Athur> hi
[02:10] <lucasvo> Lord_Athur: hi
[02:12] <Lord_Athur> I'm building my own web page with apache, but its address is my IP, can I change it(without pay)?
[02:13] <Lord_Athur> ogra_, do you know it?
[02:23] <Lord_Athur> 
[06:31] <Breezy> Hello
[06:34] <Breezy> Okay...just got the ISO, made the disk, booted the disk up and I am at the partitioning part.  I have two drives (hda - with fat32 and ext3 - from a previous redhad install - and hdb with fat32, ext3 and swap partition).  The options inially given is to erase hda and/or hdb...I want to save my windows partitions on each if possible.  I am trying to do the manual part, but it still doesn't seem to allow me to erase just the ext3
[06:34] <Breezy> One other thing...the Network configuration part doesn't allow DHCP for IP configuration...any way to set that?
[06:49] <spacey> Breezy, just choose manually configure partition table
[06:49] <spacey> or something similar
[06:50] <spacey> and edubuntu intends to be the dhcp server itself. You can skip that sort of and manually change it later to auto at least
[06:51] <spacey> because it wants to be dhcp server itself it will ask you for static ip first
[06:51] <spacey> but you can easily reconfigure that for DHCP after install
[06:51] <Breezy> Sorry...had to take care of something...
[06:52] <Breezy> But if I have a DHCP server already...is there no way to set this at inital install time?  Could a check box be added to allow DHCP support maybe?
[06:53] <spacey> Breezy, for now you should just enter an static ip temporary until you finished install. If i remember the install correctly
[06:54] <spacey> easy to change later
[06:54] <spacey> the reason why its not its because of the way edubuntu is targetted but you can always request that feature. but that won't help you on short term.
[06:55] <spacey> i think i just entered ip address first, didn't configure dhcpd and fixed it afterwards.
[06:55] <spacey> it has been a while for me
[06:57] <Breezy> ok...
[07:00] <spacey> i'm going to make dinner & eat now. i'll be back later
[07:00] <spacey> Breezy, do you intend to use the LTSP facility in edubuntu?
[07:00] <spacey> or just use it as a normal desktop
[07:01] <spacey> if its just as an edubuntu desktop you can install it with the "standalone" boot parameter. If not just continue with the above
[07:02] <Breezy> I was planning on trying it out to see if its something that might be useful for my wife's school that she teaches at.  I regret to say, I do not even know what LTSP stands for...
[07:03] <Breezy> well...have to go somewhere...talk at you later...with more questions I'm sure...
[07:36] <jingl3> Hi this is jingl3 in UK, just installed edubunbtu 5.10
[07:36] <jingl3> I have a problem logging in to the terminal
[07:37] <jingl3> it shows the login prompt, but when I click OK it just reverts to the prompt again
[07:42] <spacey> thin client? or on the machine itself?
[07:45] <jingl3> spacey - On the thin client
[07:45] <blue-frog> jingl3, on server in a terminal do    sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
[07:46] <blue-frog> if not working do sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts   then   sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
[07:47] <jingl3> OK - must quit to try it. Will let you know - thanks!
[08:58] <jingl3> Hi folks - yes, updating the sshkeys did the job. Many thanks!
[08:59] <jingl3> Just need to fix the keyboard to gb - that's easy.
[09:01] <blue-frog> jingl3, in lts.conf
[09:02] <jingl3> Yep - I have K12LTSP 4.1 running
[09:27] <mhz> hi all
[10:05] <skeeter_652> what is the minimum HD size and RAM for running a server with 16-20 thin client machines?
[10:25] <skeeter_652> have any experience with running edubuntu with server and thin client machines?
[10:26] <skeeter_652> wondering what kind of minimum system I need for a server
[10:27] <mhz> skeeter_652: hi
[10:27] <skeeter_652> hi
[10:27] <mhz> skeeter_652: for each client, server should have a min. ram of 128
[10:27] <skeeter_652> that's per client?
[10:27] <mhz> yup
[10:27] <skeeter_652> HD space?
[10:28] <mhz> so clients will be able to run gnome desktop apps. 'normally'
[10:28] <skeeter_652> ok. what about hd space and processor?
[10:28] <mhz> HD GB it's up to you. however, HD speed is more relevant
[10:29] <mhz> the fastest the HD, the better
[10:29] <mhz> processor, for a gnome environement, 2GB and up
[10:29] <mhz> processor, for a gnome environement, 2GHz and up
[10:29] <mhz> sorry )
[10:29] <skeeter_652> no problem...that's what I wanted to know. thx
[10:29] <mhz> obvoilsy, the fastest the better
[10:30] <skeeter_652> can i use any old machine for the client machines?
[10:30] <mhz> but keep in mind if 16 run OOO at the same time... ooofff
[10:30] <pirast> hi, i tried to run edubuntu with ltsp at home.. Now I have one problem: The mouse at the thin client does not react.. any ideas?
[10:30] <mhz> any machine with at least 48 MB ram will be ok, as long as it boots via net
[10:31] <mhz> (PXE)
[10:31] <mhz> pirast: hi
[10:31] <mhz> pirast: nope, not a clue.
[10:31] <mhz> :(
[10:31] <pirast> hm ok.. but thanks :-)
[10:32] <mhz> which mouse r u trying?
[10:32] <mhz> USB?
[10:32] <mhz> PS2?
[10:32] <pirast> no, ps / s
[10:32] <pirast> ps / 2
[10:32] <pirast> ich already tried 2 mouses
[10:32] <pirast> so i dont think that it is a mouse related problem
[10:32] <mhz> any usb available?
[10:32] <pirast> jupp, i could try and i will try :-)
[10:33] <pirast> btw. edubuntu is really, really impressive
[10:33] <mhz> we think so
[10:33] <mhz> :)
[10:34] <mhz> but there's still lot to do
[10:34] <pirast> yes, it seems to me that the next release will fix that... 
[10:34] <mhz> pirast: are you subscribed to the ML?
[10:34] <mhz> next release will fix many things, indeed.
[10:34] <pirast> mhz: i think so, yes :-) but i dont post there :-)
[10:34] <mhz> but probably new one will be reported :)
[10:35] <mhz> oh
[10:35] <mhz> IMO, more people participate on ML than IRC :(
[10:35] <pirast> jupp and ogra seems to be away, he was in essen today :-)
[10:36] <blue-frog> pirast are u using a console switch?
[10:37] <pirast> blue-frog: i connected the server and the client directly, there is no switch
[10:38] <blue-frog> pirast, don't know then, should work, the only time it doesn't work for me is when i use a usb console switch