[02:11] <artnay> updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal. now I need to get some sleep, later mates
[01:51] <artnay> about the structure of wiki... do you have any ideas? :o
[01:52] <artnay> we don't want to mess it up and then notice it wasn't that carefully planned
[01:53] <artnay> nevertheless it would be nice to get it updated on this weekend
[01:54] <klepas> hey artnay 
[01:54] <artnay> hi klepas 
[01:55] <artnay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTodoProposal
[01:56] <artnay> there's what I've been thinking
[01:56] <artnay> but I could use some help with planning the structure
[01:56] <klepas> i'd be happy to help
[01:56] <klepas> just busy with stuff
[01:57] <klepas> in the moment
[01:57] <klepas> how long will you be online for artnay? :)
[01:57] <artnay> too long as always :)
[01:57] <klepas> good
[01:57] <artnay> I already closed my phone so my gf won't be bugging me
[01:57] <klepas> well for me that is
[01:57] <klepas> that's nice
[01:57] <klepas> =)
[01:58] <artnay> maybe the Members section should be renamed as Contact
[01:58] <artnay> and then there would be a list of members with e-mail addresses, info on this channel and the mailing list
[02:00] <klepas> i don't think 'members' would be an applicable choice of wording
[02:00] <klepas> how about 'contributers'?
[02:00] <klepas> or something like that
[02:00] <artnay> changed already
[02:00] <artnay> to Contact
[02:01] <artnay> the thing that is bugging me has something to do with the current projects
[02:01] <artnay> how should they be separated?
[02:02] <artnay> main page is easy to modify, but projects page should be planned very carefully
[02:02] <klepas> i'm not even sure myself
[02:02] <klepas> i'm not an 'official' ubuntu contributor yet
[02:02] <artnay> me neither
[02:02] <klepas> :)
[02:02] <artnay> but I just feel thanking Mark for giving us Ubuntu ;)
[02:05] <klepas> Hehe. Reasonable enough
[02:05] <klepas> reason why I started helping out with various things here and there
[02:05] <klepas> not much yet in Ubuntu though
[02:11] <artnay> should we have a page for general feedback?
[02:11] <artnay> or should ppl give their feedback to project's discussion page?
[02:12] <artnay> what if there is no project? if people just want to give new ideas etc.
[02:12] <artnay> and they don't want to use the mailing list nor irc
[02:13] <artnay> or something similiar to "HelpArtworkTeam"
[02:13] <artnay> maybe that would go under FAQ after all
[02:14] <artnay> what do you think?
[02:29] <klepas> yea
[02:29] <klepas> you've got a point about people not wanting/being lazy about using either the ML or IRC
[02:34] <artnay> so that would be one topic then
[02:35] <klepas> definitely
[02:36] <klepas> but somehow i think in our current state, a lot of people wouldn't make use of the wiki either
[02:36] <klepas> as is proven already =\
[02:38] <artnay> true, but we need to gather up first
[02:38] <artnay> when people see that there's some activity, they might participate
[02:38] <klepas> yea
[02:39] <artnay> now they might think the whole development process is sort of secret (unless they realize that nothing is actually happening)
[02:40] <artnay> I'll take a shower and grab something to eat, brb
[02:42] <klepas> np
[02:42] <klepas> enjoy
[02:53] <artnay> ok, now I feel like F5'd
[02:54] <artnay> is henrik a part of artwork team? at least he is behind AUC
[02:55] <artnay> or is he? :o
[02:57] <artnay> I hate to steal this facility to moan but I contributed 2 backgrounds a couple of weeks back here, still no sign of them and after 2 emails still no feedback if anythings wrong, which is a little frustrating!
[02:58] <artnay> " "
[03:01] <artnay> https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id=1567&application=firefox
[03:02] <artnay> tango theme for fx
[03:03] <artnay> I'd love to see humility theme for fx
[03:03] <artnay> that would bring some consistency
[03:04] <artnay> people are using that as an arguement for changing epiphany
[03:05] <klepas> artnay: yea
[03:05] <klepas> i know what you mean
[03:05] <klepas> Henrik is actually a Canonical guy, iirc
[03:06] <klepas> Henrik, volvoguy (Aaron, iirc) and I have admin rights to AUC
[03:06] <klepas> but I've stopped using administering it because it is simply such an annoying process of adding new items
[03:09] <artnay> ok, I've never tried that art.* concept
[09:20] <derek[] > Is there a ttf viewer for linux where I could preview them?